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Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate 60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.
Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying 110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance 80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.I hear you Teddy Bears. You write a compelling case.
If the new standard rates at Artemis is for a half hour session with BBBJ included is 110 being 60 for the half hour and 50 extra for BBBJ plus 80 entrance fee then that 190 euro for that half hour assuming you give the one shot.
This means going to a private apartment or even seeing an Escort becomes a more economic prospect. The main advantage from my perspective of a FKK becomes the choice advantage of a plethora of women to choose from. But even then.
So the price is same as globe Zurich now, if the service is the same as Globe Zurich, it can be perceived as OK, but if not it is really rip off club.The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.
The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.Even at 170 per hour plus the 80 euros entry makes that first hour if that is all you are shooting is 250 euros for the hour which is high end Escort prices. Also the service may not be that good as well.
Heading to Globe Zurich for 280 CHF for the hour plus entry becomes much more viable when the service is expected.
Even at 170 per hour plus the 80 euros entry makes that first hour if that is all you are shooting is 250 euros for the hour which is high end Escort prices. Also the service may not be that good as well.
Heading to Globe Zurich for 280 CHF for the hour plus entry becomes much more viable when the service is expected.For one hour, no point to go to Artemis. Also, some people actually live in Berlin and Artemis or escort is the only choice. For sex alone you can escort, but then there is a luck element. But if you like to spend the day and enjoy the facility then in Berlin you have no other option.
There is only one Ukrainian. I am not sure about her club name. What do you mean by "bangs?There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?
The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.Artemis now can be total rip off club if full GFE service including DFK, DATY, condom fuck passionately is not offered for such up sell prices of around 100 euro. Also 30 min should be 30 min, not 20 min.
As for Globe, it is reasonable rate considering they do give you promised passionate service and 30 min is 30 min without any deception or cheat or annoying negotiation.
If it is 100 euro 30 min and Artemis give same service as globe Zurich then it is fine, and if it is 30 min is 30 min.
There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?There are actually two: One Blonde named Anja, she can pass for German when talking but has a Ukrainian face IMO. And, Katya with the bangs (I actually forgot about her for a second). Both sit together, both worked in GT before, both should be good service. Normally sitting on the bar in the main side and on the last two chairs before the bar curves right.
MaxSquatter
10-20-18, 15:59
It's been a couple years since I saw her but I asked recently on here about the girl. She has dark hair, bangs, is tall (taller than the Romanian with bangs girl). She holds hands with another girl and walks around. Easy going. I was told she is there still. Hopefully that is the case.
There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?
Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.
5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.
Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.
ExpatLover
10-20-18, 19:53
It's been a couple years since I saw her but I asked recently on here about the girl. She has dark hair, bangs, is tall (taller than the Romanian with bangs girl). She holds hands with another girl and walks around. Easy going. I was told she is there still. Hopefully that is the case.So many other girls around the best is not to concentrate on one.
MaxSquatter
10-21-18, 01:15
What did the 2 local racist Turkish Germans do?
Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.
5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.
Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.
ExpatLover
10-21-18, 05:02
Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.
5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.
Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.The club is owned by the HA or so, most of the girls are veteran and in relation with the gang members so they reduce the competition by refusing top sexy new girls, on top of that they face the same issues than everywhere in Europe, less new girls need to be prostitutes.
Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.
5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.
Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.You had a bad experience. That happens. Artemis has some pretty good girls and new girls keep coming. And after Globe, this is the club women make the most money in. The issue is; 110 euro for half an hour (BJ considerations); a good hour should be 170 and it is not guaranteed. It depends on the girl you choose. So, My feelings is to leave Artemis for the visitors and stay home. This is getting disproportionately expensive.
ExpatLover
10-21-18, 19:14
You had a bad experience. That happens. Artemis has some pretty good girls and new girls keep coming. And after Globe, this is the club women make the most money in. The issue is; 110 euro for half an hour (BJ considerations); a good hour should be 170 and it is not guaranteed. It depends on the girl you choose. So, My feelings is to leave Artemis for the visitors and stay home. This is getting disproportionately expensive.How many shares have you from Artemis or I can t understand how you can support this club just have a look on the German forums, the reports are getting worse and worse which I was thinking is not possible knowing how bad the club is for 3 years at least. Now if you like it don t hesitate go and spend your money.
SpiritWalker
10-22-18, 21:02
It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes. What my original 50 E extra should cover she never told me. We did some 69 which was OK for a few minutes, then DATY in normal position where she squeezed her thights against my chins and more or less wanted me to lick her stomach and not her pussy. At this stage I stopped, said to her this is a total rip-off and my momentum was totally gone. We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.
It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min"..Girls are independent, but must adhere to house rules. You should ask for the manager at the reception. Management will treat you better than the receptionist. But, all in all, you paid her 60 and not 110, so you didn't chicken out. Only when you take her to the manager and say what was the original agreement, this can be a lesson for her. But you also had a bad pick. For 110 30 min you should be fine. That's still expensive to my taste.
It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes.I would have just fucked her for 30 min and paid standard price of 60 euro.
When upsell become rip off, one should pay original price but finish the 30 min session and pay 60 euro house price, after that it is all she said he said.
Member #4636
10-23-18, 17:41
It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes..I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.
ExpatLover
10-23-18, 19:48
It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes. What my original 50 E extra should cover she never told me. We did some 69 which was OK for a few minutes, then DATY in normal position where she squeezed her thights against my chins and more or less wanted me to lick her stomach and not her pussy. At this stage I stopped, said to her this is a total rip-off and my momentum was totally gone. We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.Nice to see that Artemis remains in the top position for the cheating clubs that obviously I will never visit again.
Milfotronic
10-24-18, 14:53
I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.I think it's the overall situation in Berlin. The last couple of times I've been there have been very negative. The rude WG's are all over town. Don't know if it's something in the water or what it is, but Berlin is no fun anymore. My last trip to Germany went to Frankfurt. Won't go back to Berlin.
WarmStone25
10-24-18, 17:40
I visited Artemis last Thursday. It was too cool to use the outdoor pool, so I satisfied my self with the indoor pool. When I got into the main bar lounge I thought there was plenty of girls with good figures, enough for me to be interested in. The last two visits were OK, but today it felt like my first few visits to Artemis. I alternated between the lower Kino and watching the action at the main bar. When I was in the Kino I was approached by Alessandra from Spain. We soon retired to the room at the back of the Kino. The action was short, and sharp and intense. This was a repetition with this girl because I had the same kind of session on a previous visit. I wanted to have another session before grabbing a bite at 18.00 hrs. Sometime after 17.00 hrs I met Mandy from Berlin. I had a good session with her on a previous visit, and she remembered me, so I went with her again. Another good session ensued. It would appear that if you get to know some of the girls you can get better service and a good session need not be longer than 30 minutes. Both sessions were for 60 euro. Mandy supplied information that she does not turn up till 17.00 hrs and that there is a room in Artemis for [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118). I did not know this before. I spent nearly 6 hours there. Artemis is still a good place for picking up girls.
I don't know who that bartender girl is actually. Anyone seen Geraldine Hungarian or Coco Albanian lately?Is she still working at the Artemis?
Is she still working at the Artemis?That was my question LOL. Have you seen Geraldine from Hungary recently at Artemis? She was one of the best provider in room.
Very interesting post!
So you agreed to 110 E. But then essentially only paid 60 E, because of your dissatisfaction with the service, right? And the WG was not climbing on the barricades and screaming at you? Instead she simply took the 60 E. Which was a decent per-min price of 4 E per min,.
We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.
Steve 9696
10-29-18, 23:59
Short story: There is no question that the majority of Artemis girls are sharks and the overall girlfriend vibe is lacking. If you only have one or two shots, you are rolling the dice. If you are there for longer than that, you can have at least one good experience. Not great. But solid.
Rolled in to Artemis about 4 PM on a Sunday. Maybe 15-20 girls and at least that many guys and growing by the minute. I had a thirties-ish Brazilian girl court me for a bit. Wanted 130 for the usual extras. A little thick around the middle and clearly older so I said I was hanging for a bit. Several other non-starters (remember for me any thing but brown eyes is the kiss of death).
Eventually hooked up with Salome. Clearly about 10 x better on the optics than most of the girls there. Given my aesthetic. Nice heart shaped face, huge brown eyes, and a full set of lips. Her tits are clearly DD+ all natural. She was not backing down off 160 for kissing and the usual extra for a half hour. I caved and said lets go. On balance a very fine experience. Some upsell that I quickly squashed. No real illusion of BFGF and the kissing was distinctly lame. But the BJ and the mish and the doggie were all mighty fine. I am a bit girthy and some girls are too tight to get a good slip and slide going, but she was just right. Had a super nice bare back tittle fuck to finish. Was actually worth the €160, but I would skip kissing next time.
Second girl was a mistake. Nikki from Hungary. Been at it for 12 years. Thought that might be good for a pro- level BJ but was wrong. Won't even recount this disaster, except to say she is beyond thick and he BJ is 90% HJ. Avoid.
Tatiana saved the day. She is a tight little brunette Romanian with bangs. I'd seen here around and she didn't do it for me, but when I walked past her in better light I was like whoa, beautiful eyes. And the more I chatted her up, the more she appealed. Given my prior lame kissing I decided to skip that and got the standard €110 offer. And this girl was true to her word and a trooper. No in room upsell. We did several positions, but she really had to work the BJ for a long time -- no hands, unlike my Hungarian girl, and brought a spectacular finish. I tipped her 20 because she was an awesome hard worker.
I took a three hour break and a nap. I came back around 10, armed with a small dose of VitaminV. (You can leave and return same day). My first go was again a mistake, but not as huge. I can't recall her name, but an exceptionally tall blond with deep brown eyes and pouty lips. There were a couple warning signs that I blew I right past and the experience was pretty much OK. Kissing was lame again, but she did offer DATY as part of the kissing bundle. Altogether pleasant enough but pretty transactional. Finished by hand, while she moved sexily in doggie position giving a good view of her pussy. Very helpful. LOL.
Last girl was a solid win, but could have been an upsell disaster in the wrong hands. I had just finished with my Russian girl so it was too early. This really pretty Romanian in a red fishnet top caught my eye and latched on pretty hard (in a good way). Her name was Karina and she was undeterred when I said I just got back from a session. Just chose to hang out with me and cuddle and drape herself all over me until 20 or so minutes later we agreed to a room.
Again it was important as others noted that we agreed up front. We decided on an hour (it being my fifth go in 8 hours) and €220 for kissing and the usual other extra. This was overall a really nice experience. Early she tried to upsell me to the prostate massage and even tried to shame me a bit when I declined -- which about got her the boot -- but I told her no upselling. Only what we agreed. That must have gotten her attention because a minute later she said "69?" and I said, only if it's not extra and she said "no darling that is included of course" Anyhow, after this rough spot it was as close to GFE as Artemis gets I think. She wasn't very good at tongue kissing, but the kisses were sweet and felt passionate, not forced. We did a whole lotta stuff in that hour, with help from VitaminV and a very strong finish. All in all a really good hour, after the initial miscues.
I would repeat with Salome, Tatiana, and Karina- avoid the other two.
Tomorrow I'll summarize a few Artemis tips, plus report on my aborted Paris No 5 visit and my super nice Angentur Liberty visit.
TeddyBears
10-30-18, 03:05
Steve 9696.
Nice report Steve. Artemis has clearly evolved to a proper ripoff place nowadays. I have had hundreds of sessions at Artemis the last ten years, normally very good sessions including DFK & BBBJ but the apparent price structure is just crazy and it just doesn't make sense to frequently visit anymore. I will be in Berlin in four weeks time for leisure and will probably visit then as well, but after that visit I can't see any reason to visit Berlin in the near future as it feels as Artemis is dead as we know it.
No reason to pay 80€ entrance when proper sex is overpriced, if you don't mind covered BJ and bad attitude then you are OK. I for one will rather spend my euros in Spain where you get an hour for 100€ everything included from a Latin girl which I prefer over the Romanians in FKK-land, just sad that FKK's don't exist in Spain, why don't they anyway? Just not the same to visit apartments when you are used to facilities such as Artemis. But the sun and the prices in Spain makes it my preferred destination.
Happy mongering!
ExpatLover
10-30-18, 04:59
Short story: There is no question that the majority of Artemis girls are sharks and the overall girlfriend vibe is lacking. If you only have one or two shots, you are rolling the dice. If you are there for longer than that, you can have at least one good experience. Not great. But solid.
Rolled in to Artemis about 4 PM on a Sunday. Maybe 15-20 girls and at least that many guys and growing by the minute. I had a thirties-ish Brazilian girl court me for a bit. Wanted 130 for the usual extras. A little thick around the middle and clearly older so I said I was hanging for a bit. Several other non-starters (remember for me any thing but brown eyes is the kiss of death).
Eventually hooked up with Salome. Clearly about 10 x better on the optics than most of the girls there. Given my aesthetic. Nice heart shaped face, huge brown eyes, and a full set of lips. Her tits are clearly DD+ all natural. She was not backing down off 160 for kissing and the usual extra for a half hour. I caved and said lets go. On balance a very fine experience. Some upsell that I quickly squashed. No real illusion of BFGF and the kissing was distinctly lame. But the BJ and the mish and the doggie were all mighty fine. I am a bit girthy and some girls are too tight to get a good slip and slide going, but she was just right. Had a super nice bare back tittle fuck to finish. Was actually worth the 160, but I would skip kissing next time.
Second girl was a mistake. Nikki from Hungary. Been at it for 12 years. Thought that might be good for a pro- level BJ but was wrong. Won't even recount this disaster, except to say she is beyond thick and he BJ is 90% HJ. Avoid.
Tatiana saved the day. She is a tight little brunette Romanian with bangs. I'd seen here around and she didn't do it for me, but when I walked past her in better light I was like whoa, beautiful eyes. And the more I chatted her up, the more she appealed. Given my prior lame kissing I decided to skip that and got the standard 110 offer. And this girl was true to her word and a trooper. No in room upsell. We did several positions, but she really had to work the BJ for a long time -- no hands, unlike my Hungarian girl, and brought a spectacular finish. I tipped her 20 because she was an awesome hard worker..Viagra to fuck a prostitute? Sorry if you can t means better you save your money, you overpaid all the girls, you got quantity but not quality at least for me, Artemis is a nightmare for most of the senior mongers.
Very interesting post!
So you agreed to 110 E. But then essentially only paid 60 E, because of your dissatisfaction with the service, right? And the WG was not climbing on the barricades and screaming at you? Instead she simply took the 60 E. Which was a decent per-min price of 4 E per min,.I would have banged her hardcore for good 30 min from back position and cut the session at 30 min due to bad service and pay her 60 euro for 30 min.
Steve 9696
10-30-18, 13:03
I should note that I've been almost everywhere worldwide and to Oase, World, and Sharks. So my view is pretty jaded. If you have never been to FKK before it will be awesome. And the facilities are top notch. I'the say the "fit and finish" of Artemis is top notch.
So much about life is about expectations. Go in with high expectations and you will be disappointed by the sharkiness and service level. Go in not expecting much and some girl is sure to surprise you in a positive way.
More tonight after visit #2.
Nooky Ninja
10-30-18, 14:03
I should note that I've been almost everywhere worldwide and to Oase, World, and Sharks. So my view is pretty jaded. If you have never been to FKK before it will be awesome. And the facilities are top notch. I'the say the "fit and finish" of Artemis is top notch.
So much about life is about expectations. Go in with high expectations and you will be disappointed by the sharkiness and service level. Go in not expecting much and some girl is sure to surprise you in a positive way.Even with your experience, you go on slowest, weakest lineup days of the week Sun-Tues? "Chill" aspect of slow days has its charms, but lineup much better Thurs-Sat. Before 2300 not crowded. Not fair to generalize from slow days. Sometimes more hardened, more money pressured girls work slower days (sometime not...). But in general choices better on power days. All FKKs basically the same, some up some down, girls move around. Easy to blame venue. But many factors under your control:
"Game" (how to make girl relax not feel like steak, and so you not just tourist with cock and euros),
"Choice" ( how to get everything clear up front before heading to room or walking away if vibe not right)
& "Chemistry" (must feel some minimal mutual attraction-from girl, take time to sense it or not)
All big suc(k)cess factors.
You seem like decent guy so should be able to find some good times. Before wizened souls come back with usual negatives, remember; like life, some people find way to enjoy, some don't.
TeddyBears
10-31-18, 01:19
Totally agree with you Nooky and Steve.
For a newbie the Artemis experience would probably still be very exciting and mind blowing, I can still remember my first visit in 2009 I felt like a kid in a candy store LOL.
I agree that your expectations sometimes can be to high especially when you have been there so many times before, because you expect it to be as before but it will probably never be like that again. The disappointing part with Artemis is when you compare it with other FKK's in many of those clubs the girls give good service if you choose to stay 1 hour or longer, but in Artemis it seems that many girls wants additional charge for everything, even DATY with a few girls that I talked to! It fast becomes extremely expensive if you want good service, if you are ok with covered BJ I can almost guarantee you that many girls will try to upsell you in the room which at least for me becomes very stressful and takes away the fun and momentum of the session, when that happens I most times abort and cut short.
As said if you are a first time visitor or not care about the amount of money you spend you will probably have a very good time at Artemis, I know I had at least.
Just as Nooky mentioned it can't be echoed to many times, do the Q&A and try to get to 'know' the girl before you agree rooming with her and don't be afraid to walk away if it doesn't feel right, trust your gut feel. Treat the girls respectfully and agree on everything before your session and you will be OK. Remember to have control of your wallet just because the girls want a certain amount of money doesn't mean you can't make them a counteroffer and stand your ground, after all they want your money!
I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.What a bad luck that we didn't met each other, I bet it would have been unforgettable. I was also in Artemis in July but not the whole July. Did you saw the ugly guy wearing a Bordeaux robe, it was me.
My performance in room wasn't optimal as always, but I kept on improving. At least that's what the girls said, of course all the girls and I pay just basic rate for compliments.
I didn't notice any unfriendly hookers beside the usual kidding, fun making and middle finger raising. Playground reality but far from being "Dracu".
My visit didn't sucked. And since it is written now on ISG (if this post is passing censorship) everybody has to believe it. No choice I am sorry.
But I promise not to search for the passwords of my other never used nicknames to confirm multiple times that also "other" guys are alright with Artemis.
I visited Artemis last Thursday. It was too cool to use the outdoor pool, so I satisfied my self with the indoor pool. When I got into the main bar lounge I thought there was plenty of girls with good figures, enough for me to be interested in. The last two visits were OK, but today it felt like my first few visits to Artemis. I alternated between the lower Kino and watching the action at the main bar. When I was in the Kino I was approached by Alessandra from Spain. We soon retired to the room at the back of the Kino. The action was short, and sharp and intense. This was a repetition with this girl because I had the same kind of session on a previous visit. I wanted to have another session before grabbing a bite at 18.00 hrs. Sometime after 17.00 hrs I met Mandy from Berlin. I had a good session with her on a previous visit, and she remembered me, so I went with her again. Another good session ensued. It would appear that if you get to know some of the girls you can get better service and a good session need not be longer than 30 minutes. Both sessions were for 60 euro. Mandy supplied information that she does not turn up till 17.00 hrs and that there is a room in Artemis for (CodeWord118). I did not know this before. I spent nearly 6 hours there. Artemis is still a good place for picking up girls.Nice report Warmstone. I had one room with Alessandra about three years ago. She is friendly.
Steve 9696
10-31-18, 05:10
Sure NN, I would choose different days if I could, but business travel dictates the schedule. That said, fair point to not judge too harshly based on a single day. And in fact, tonight was Artemis redemption night. (bearing in mind it was good the other night, but had some of the sharkiness other's have noted). Went around 11 PM and stayed till four (Tuesday night).
Wasn't there more than 10 minutes before Salome found me. God, that girl is good looking. And on balance I had a really nice time with her on Sunday, brief though it was. I forgot to mention she is a real pro at what she does and as my first visit after a week of abstinence, on Sunday, she literally had me ready to come in 5 minutes. She was actually pretty understanding and took direction to stave that off, but still had me blowing at the 15 minute mark.
Tonight, she wiggled up to me at the bar and we kinda just body to body rubbed a bit and I was ready for a room. This being my 7th session in 3 days, it was not like the first one. I told her no kissing, so it was only going to be 110 but she upsold me in the room on cum in tittle fuck and go nice and slow. Still we only took twentyish minutes for the actual deed. She gives a great BJ, has a wonderful feeling pussy, is super sexy and accommodating and has an unmatched tittle fuck finish. Very happy to spend 160 for her quality.
Took a short nap and had a massage, which was quite good. Not long after re-entering the bar area, my other girl from Sunday, Karina found me. God, she is cute too. It was a little early for another room, but she convinced me. We went for a 160 half including kissing, which again was sexy if not top notch. In the room it was really comfortable. She tried to sell me the prostate thing again, but not very hard. In general good BJ and nice sex in a few positions tho for some reason her pussy doesn't feel as nice as Salomes. The funny part of this experience was I was terribly hard to finish. At one point nearing the time limit I went to take things in my own hands and she said "No! I will keel you!" And she meant it, swatting my hands away. Even five minutes later I was ready to call it, but she persisted -- "here, touch my pussy" etc while she kept on. She ran a serious 10-15 minutes over the half hour and got it done! Now that is a gal for me!
She said no more sex for me, and that was the plan. I went downstairs and was just going to hang out. Way in the back there is a seating area and stage. It was 215 by now and the girls had a couple of bottles of champagne and probably 15 of them were putting on a dance party. Honestly it was so much fun to watch these girls having such a great time. All of them pretty much naked and dancing up a storm and really truly joyful. I watched for probably 45 minutes and was just struck by the spirit of the whole thing. It was awesome.
I have to admit all this sexy tit shaking got me turned on, but I was pretty sure one girl would not be able to finish the deed at this point. I ran into a smoking hot Bulgarian girl. Just the slimmest frame and lovely well done lips. I told her I didn't really want to pay for kissing because of my bad experiences and she said she could change my mind. She melted my mind with her sexiness, but also offered kissing for 20. So that sealed the deal. So 130 was the plan. We had her friend join who was a bit more milfy, but not unattractive. She was also 130. Had a really solid time with these two. I guess the 20 doesn't get you DATY or much FIV, which seemed to be included in other girls 50 for kissing add on. But that was ok. Having two girls we were pretty busy kissing (both were good!) and getting BJ.
They did go for the CIM upsell and it being two of them would be 100. Which I declined. The "mom" was smart enough to then back it off to just the young girls mouth at 50 and I took the offer. It was really sort of amusing to, watch the interaction. Mom did a bit of BJ coaching with her young charge and this was sort of sexy. She also did dirty talk in my ear like "fill her mouth with you cum". (good English!) and boy that girl was a trooper. Kept at it strong and with a bit of manual assist, our little trio accomplished the impossible 9th shot.
Really I have to say I really enjoyed tonight. Having two go-to girls helped a lot and I got lucky on the duo. And the vibe and scene with the dancing was just great. Really nice time at Artemis tonight!
ExpatLover
10-31-18, 05:41
Sure NN, I would choose different days if I could, but business travel dictates the schedule. That said, fair point to not judge too harshly based on a single day. And in fact, tonight was Artemis redemption night. (bearing in mind it was good the other night, but had some of the sharkiness other's have noted). Went around 11 PM and stayed till four (Tuesday night).
Wasn't there more than 10 minutes before Salome found me. God, that girl is good looking. And on balance I had a really nice time with her on Sunday, brief though it was. I forgot to mention she is a real pro at what she does and as my first visit after a week of abstinence, on Sunday, she literally had me ready to come in 5 minutes. She was actually pretty understanding and took direction to stave that off, but still had me blowing at the 15 minute mark.Thanks to completely destroying the price policy by overpaying that way.
Steve 9696
10-31-18, 08:57
Having spent Sunday and Tuesday at Artemis, if you want some continuity, head over to the Berlin thread for Monday's adventures.
Having spent Sunday and Tuesday at Artemis, if you want some continuity, head over to the Berlin thread for Monday's adventures.Saw you got a massage at Artemis (below day 2) and they also list other treatments. Is that by the regular girls or do they have a special staff for that. And any info on pricing? Sorry to ask so many questions Steve. Also appreciate the post on your massage in the other Forum. The information about location was certainly very useful! I'll be prepared.
Steve 9696
10-31-18, 21:37
Saw you got a massage at Artemis (below day 2) and they also list other treatments. Is that by the regular girls or do they have a special staff for that. And any info on pricing? Sorry to ask so many questions Steve. Also appreciate the post on your massage in the other Forum. The information about location was certainly very useful! I'll be prepared.The massage area is down in the wellness area one floor down. It is legit massage with strong male masseurs. Be prepared for a little pain as well. It's a serious wellness massage. So ask him to go light beforehand if you want something softer.
The wellness area is really nice and also a refuge from the girls (very few come down and work their game). They have a true Euro sauna at 90 C (no thanks!) and a bio sauna at 66 C which is plenty hot. Nice donut shaped pool. Handful of lounge chairs. If you want a recovery nap they have a really nice area under the stairs where you can legitimately sleep if you want. The kino (euro word for porn cinema) is also down there. And even a fitness center weight room, though I got a good enough workout fucking, thank you!
Oh, and it's 1€ a minute. 20, 30, and 60 minute options.
I got a good enough workout fucking, thank you!
Ha ha!
Thanks for the details. Funny to mix the legit with the escort business. I'd have expected a couple of the girls who offer additional services working there. Certainly not guys? Although the more I think about it, the more I understand how they need to keep it all separate.
Milfotronic
11-05-18, 09:18
Hi there fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is visiting Berlin and Artemis for the first time. What is the best or easiest way to get to Artemis from Tegel Airport?
Blue Swede
11-05-18, 21:54
Hi there fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is visiting Berlin and Artemis for the first time. What is the best or easiest way to get to Artemis from Tegel Airport?What are the criteria for "best"?
Either go by the efficient Berlin public transport and save some money or go by taxi and you don't have to bother about where it is.
I always go by public transport. Check http://www.bvg.de/en/.
TeddyBears
11-05-18, 22:02
Never used public transport to Artemis so can't comment on that, taxi from Tegel is about 15-20€.
Steve 9696
11-06-18, 02:31
Hi there fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is visiting Berlin and Artemis for the first time. What is the best or easiest way to get to Artemis from Tegel Airport?I use Uber most places I travel but it is exceptionally good in Berlin. 2-3 minute wait time pretty much any time I called including airport pickup. Clean cars. Often Mercedes. Longest wait was 7 minutes at 4 AM from Artemis to Tegel.
Best Uber city I've been to FWIW.
Oh and I also recommend the following if you have an early flight just check out of your hotel at 11 PM and go to Artemis. They will hold your luggage. Then party with the girls for 5 hours. Bonus you sleep like a baby on the plane!
Louie De Palma
11-07-18, 17:30
Hi there fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is visiting Berlin and Artemis for the first time. What is the best or easiest way to get to Artemis from Tegel Airport?Take the TXL bus to nearest S-bahn station. Take S42 to Westkreuz. Go to the vest exit, over a parking lot and out to Hallenseestrasse and turn left. After a short walk over a train bridge he'll see the Artemis sign.
Beware of all the upselling, this club has become friggin¨expensive.
I would have banged her hardcore for good 30 min from back position and cut the session at 30 min due to bad service and pay her 60 euro for 30 min.She can't really do anything because that is not an extra and she might get out on the wrong side of things. Also, if the client says tgat she offered BBBJ for extra, she gets kicked out of the club. Artemis management has Strict rules about this topic.
H.
Girls would let you fuck them hard in a 30 minutes session and leave after 30 minutes. Artemis girls kick you out before or give you a hand job. Good session in Artemis is normally expensive to very expensive. Of course, some people get lucky, but not often. Reality changed in Artemis.
Hi there fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is visiting Berlin and Artemis for the first time. What is the best or easiest way to get to Artemis from Tegel Airport?I've always used a taxi as it's only €20 & quick & easy.
For somewhere like Sharks I would use the airport bus at €8 as it's quite quick and I'm not prepared to pay €50/€60 for a taxi.
She can't really do anything because that is not an extra and she might get out on the wrong side of things. Also, if the client says tgat she offered BBBJ for extra, she gets kicked out of the club. Artemis management has Strict rules about this topic.
H.
Girls would let you fuck them hard in a 30 minutes session and leave after 30 minutes. Artemis girls kick you out before or give you a hand job. Good session in Artemis is normally expensive to very expensive. Of course, some people get lucky, but not often. Reality changed in Artemis.It always has been upsell club, but now with all sort of restriction, it is better off for mongers who has choice to goto other clubs in other part of Germany.
Good sessions are still there I am sure, but as a fly in monger, it is better to fly into other part of Germany if one has a choice.
However, there always is an open door to good session LOL.
OpenSource
11-11-18, 10:02
First times always seem better than the following visits to any FKK. I've visited FKKs all around Germany and my last visit to Artemis was by far the worst experience ever.
I've visited the club at maybe the worst time of the week: Saturday night around 5. There were more guys than girls and even finding a seat on the couch proved difficult a few times.
Optics seem like dropped one or two points since my last visit on March. I remember seeing at least a few 9 or 10's but they were nowhere to be seen that night.
And the upselling. I've read the recent reports about upselling before I visited Artemis but holy shit, girls got crazy up in here. Especially this one redhead girl called Annabelle. I asked for what's included and what is extra and here is her answer:
-kissing tits = extra.
-DATY = extra.
-touching butthole = extra.
-kissing tights = extra.
So for 60 euros, you don't get to touch her with your hands, she basically does CBJ and rides you I guess.
Not all girls are as crazy as this lady, I know but never encountered such level of upselling ever. I visited this club alone once and didn't feel uneasy but maybe because of the crowd, not having any friends with me and this attitude ruined my mood.
I want to believe this was just a bad night for me and Artemis is as it was before with slight changes, we are the ones getting disappointed when our expectations aren't met. Yet after reading other reports and according to my recent experience, there is a possibility that this club may be in a downfall indeed.
Member #4733
11-11-18, 15:35
First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays.
I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min".I haven't read this thread for a while and only now see this post. It is a very useful post and although a lot has been said about it, I think there is still some more to add. From the quote it appears that you have 'forgotten' to tell what extras you wanted from the girl. Probably you just assumed the best would happen and 'assuming the best is the surest path to misery'. If you want extras the best thing to do are (two or) three steps. In the bar ask if she is willing to do extras. If possible ask her about what kind of extras exactly and how much she wants for the extras. She might be evasive about it as others may be listening in and reporting on her to management. Then you can still go to a room with her. First thing you do in the room is to make the extras clear: amount of money and type of service. If she is still not clear about them, you leave the room. I wouldn't bang a girl like her for 30 as she proved herself a con artist. Just wait for her next problem! If she is clear about them and you can't agree on them, then leave the room. No way she will go to the reception as extras are forbidden (except anal and lesbian, . More? But she can discuss the legit extras in the bar with you, no problem. After you got the extras, you pay for them downstairs in a discrete manner. Please have some change ready. Because other girls will witness the situation and may want to report on it. I once had a crowd of almost 10 girls looking at my payment for three hours plus. Other girls were extremely jealous, but everything was legit.
I am a bit sorry for your experience. Been there, done that. Especially waiting for too long after a shark attack. Somehow a shark attack prepares you for bad decisions. Then every extra info can help and I hope next time will be better.
First times always seem better than the following visits to any FKK. I've visited FKKs all around Germany and my last visit to Artemis was by far the worst experience ever.
I've visited the club at maybe the worst time of the week: Saturday night around 5. There were more guys than girls and even finding a seat on the couch proved difficult a few times.
Optics seem like dropped one or two points since my last visit on March. I remember seeing at least a few 9 or 10's but they were nowhere to be seen that night.
And the upselling. I've read the recent reports about upselling before I visited Artemis but holy shit, girls got crazy up in here. Especially this one redhead girl called Annabelle. I asked for what's included and what is extra and here is her answer:.Annabelle is super white, right? Latvian posing as German. Yes, they upsell and when you don't set things outside the room, then they take advantage even more. You need to do some good chatting out side the room and you'll find a good girl. Of course it is more expensive than it use to be. Of course, Artemis is not what it once was, but in Berlin it's all you have. If you have the option to fly into the Frankfurt are, then you are obviously better off. But you also picked one the the top worst five girls in my opinion. That's extreme, so you can do better.
Steve 9696
11-12-18, 03:00
I went with 6 different girls a month back and found the prices somewhat standardized with a few sharky exceptions. The standard pricing was 60 base, which I of course was not interested in. Then 50 extra for that extra you don't talk about without whispering, and 50 for kissing. All the girls seem to bundle DATY and some level of FIV with the kissing option. I did have one girl offer kissing for 20 but there was no DATY or FIV with that. So generally 160 a half and 220 a whole for a full experience.
My experience was the kissing was not worth it. I don't know if these girls don't know how to kiss or it's just a trick to say they kissed but keep you from doing it much because it is so lame. Basically they stick their tongue in your mouth and waggle it quickly around. There is absolutely nothing sexy about it. Other than Emma (Emmannuela) from Bulgaria, who kissed sexy real DFK, it was lame tongue twiddling and not worth it.
And I did have one girl who allowed FIV with kissing then told me tittie fuck would be extra. Thought that was sharky. Otherwise super surprised by the consistency, expensive though it may be.
... Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service ...
... if the client says tgat she offered BBBJ for extra, she gets kicked out of the club. Artemis management has Strict rules about this topic...How many girls are left in Artemis? I met only 4 girls who offered CBJ even before the law. 3 of them are gone. Management is really nearly as strict as German laws.
If the upsell is to the extent you guys reported, then why go to Artemis, I mean it sound so bad now.
Other FKK in other cities are much better for service and looks.
I would say, if you are fly in monger, go to other city for FKK trip if the upsell is bad as reported here.
Upsell was always around, but now it sound as though, it is just rip off, nothing else.
PinballMachine
11-12-18, 12:52
Please have some change ready. Because other girls will witness the situation and may want to report on it. I once had a crowd of almost 10 girls looking at my payment for three hours plus. Other girls were extremely jealous, but everything was legit.I once had a standard 60 euro session that lasted only 20 minutes, and just after I was done in the room I got a massive headache, and at the lockers I only had 50 euro bills and I gave the girl 2 bills, she then said "Oh I'll go and change" but I said "no it's OK you take it", (there were a crowd of Italians at the reception getting in) because I just wanted to get downstairs to the sofas really quick, and the girl actually looked troubled about the "tip", and two other Girls looked at the situation looking jealous and suspicious.
BTW are there any German Girls still in the line up?
I went with 6 different girls a month back and found the prices somewhat standardized with a few sharky exceptions. The standard pricing was 60 base, which I of course was not interested in. Then 50 extra for that extra you don't talk about without whispering, and 50 for kissing. All the girls seem to bundle DATY and some level of FIV with the kissing option. I did have one girl offer kissing for 20 but there was no DATY or FIV with that. So generally 160 a half and 220 a whole for a full experience.
My experience was the kissing was not worth it. I don't know if these girls don't know how to kiss or it's just a trick to say they kissed but keep you from doing it much because it is so lame. Basically they stick their tongue in your mouth and waggle it quickly around. There is absolutely nothing sexy about it. Other than Emma (Emmannuela) from Bulgaria, who kissed sexy real DFK, it was lame tongue twiddling and not worth it.
And I did have one girl who allowed FIV with kissing then told me tittie fuck would be extra. Thought that was sharky. Otherwise super surprised by the consistency, expensive though it may be.Half an hour is sharky, but OK for Artemis when you get a good half hour. Obe hour 220 is Anal abuse. Should be 170.
TeddyBears
11-13-18, 00:49
I was at Artemis a few weeks ago the lineup was actually quite good with a lot of new girls if you compare it to a year ago. But the shakiness is on a whole different level than last year. No offense guys but I think it's almost ridiculous to pay extra for both BBBJ and DFK in the same session, 50€ extra for both is reasonable in my book or have it included when you choose longer sessions.
Can't be echoed enough do the Q&A before entering the room so there are no surprises regarding price and you also get the chance to feel if there are some kind of chemistry.
OpenSource
11-13-18, 13:11
Annabelle is super white, right? Latvian posing as German. Yes, that's the one. She introduced her as Latvian though. I used to consider myself an experienced monger but I guess I did a rookie mistake.
If you have the option to fly into the Frankfurt are, then you are obviously better off. Plane tickets were 3 times more expensive, so I opted it out but now I regret it. There is a saying "I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things" and it's true. I ended up paying more for less. Next time either I'll go to Sharks or go to Zurich and get a decent 1 or 2 sessions in Globe or Aphrodisia.
Yet I'll always remember Artemis with fond memories of never ending fuck fests I had in the past.
BTW are there any German Girls still in the line up?Before the new rules there were plenty of German women in this club.
Last time I met a few ones compare to my previous visit.
Now Romanian women are taking over the place.
ExpatLover
11-14-18, 04:45
Before the new rules there were plenty of German women in this club.
Last time I met a few ones compare to my previous visit.
Now Romanian women are taking over the place.Many girls and mostly the girls who have something to lose are not willing to register, they left the P6 but still possible to met them but in a none official way.
I went with 6 different girls a month back and found the prices somewhat standardized with a few sharky exceptions. The standard pricing was 60 base, which I of course was not interested in. Then 50 extra for that extra you don't talk about without whispering, and 50 for kissing. All the girls seem to bundle DATY and some level of FIV with the kissing option. I did have one girl offer kissing for 20 but there was no DATY or FIV with that. So generally 160 a half and 220 a whole for a full experience.
My experience was the kissing was not worth it. I don't know if these girls don't know how to kiss or it's just a trick to say they kissed but keep you from doing it much because it is so lame. Basically they stick their tongue in your mouth and waggle it quickly around. There is absolutely nothing sexy about it. Other than Emma (Emmannuela) from Bulgaria, who kissed sexy real DFK, it was lame tongue twiddling and not worth it.
And I did have one girl who allowed FIV with kissing then told me tittie fuck would be extra. Thought that was sharky. Otherwise super surprised by the consistency, expensive though it may be.Go to Globe Zurich, it is even cheaper than that price of Artemis now LOL.
Steve 9696
11-15-18, 04:48
If the upsell is to the extent you guys reported, then why go to Artemis, I mean it sound so bad now.
Other FKK in other cities are much better for service and looks.
I would say, if you are fly in monger, go to other city for FKK trip if the upsell is bad as reported here.
Upsell was always around, but now it sound as though, it is just rip off, nothing else.Clearly the only reason to go to Artemis is that you are in Berlin. It is really your only late night option there. If you have the flexibility to go to FF or elsewhere definitely do that. Artemis can only do what it does because it's the only game in town.
BTW not so many Romanians in Artemis. I tried to speak Romanian to several of the girls and only a few understood it (and they had said they were Romanian anyhow) At least that was the case when I was there. Course it could be my Romanian sucks Oh and as usual (I know I am the exception) some of my best experiences were with Romanians.
Clearly the only reason to go to Artemis is that you are in Berlin. It is really your only late night option there. If you have the flexibility to go to FF or elsewhere definitely do that. Artemis can only do what it does because it's the only game in town.
BTW not so many Romanians in Artemis. I tried to speak Romanian to several of the girls and only a few understood it (and they had said they were Romanian anyhow) At least that was the case when I was there. Course it could be my Romanian sucks Oh and as usual (I know I am the exception) some of my best experiences were with Romanians.Used to be good club, it is so sad how it turned out to be. I will return one day, but I will leave it for awhile.
Member #4636
11-17-18, 15:55
Used to be good club, it is so sad how it turned out to be. I will return one day, but I will leave it for awhile.I am also very surprised how this club turned out. First I thought I am the strange but there are so many people saying how bad it has become. I found out about FKK 2 years ago and believed that in Germany it is Artemis and then all others follow. I thought it was number one, strange how reality changes things.
I hope the good days will return.
I am also very surprised how this club turned out. First I thought I am the strange but there are so many people saying how bad it has become. I found out about FKK 2 years ago and believed that in Germany it is Artemis and then all others follow. I thought it was number one, strange how reality changes things.
I hope the good days will return.I hope so too, but for now I keep distance. I found this club in 2009 and for few years it was amazing, but for now, I will and have been keep distance from Artemis for a while.
For some of crazy prices that are mentioned here of extreme up sell or more like rip off, it is better to just goto globe where service and time is secured as promised.
Like the saying, nothing last for ever.
I hope so too, but for now I keep distance. I found this club in 2009 and for few years it was amazing, but for now, I will and have been keep distance from Artemis for a while.
For some of crazy prices that are mentioned here of extreme up sell or more like rip off, it is better to just goto globe where service and time is secured as promised.
Like the saying, nothing last for ever.2009 palace wad phenomenal as well, but that's the trend now. I doubt the good old days will return. Some great private apartments in Berlin.
Nooky Ninja
11-19-18, 18:48
I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.
Steve 9696
11-19-18, 19:17
I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.I cannot comment on the past. However I think I can give good perspective on the present. This is based on a Sunday night and a Tuesday night 4+ hrs both times. And for perspective I have been to Sharks, Oase, Palace, and World around Frankfurt.
Yes it is good. Great facilities and plenty of pretty women from my POV. It is expensive relative to the Frankfurt clubs, but everywhere is more expensive with the new law. If you are in Berlin and have coin you will have a great time — provided you have enough money to roll the dice a few times. If you are there for only one girl you could get relatively quality GFE — more likely during an hour booking — or have a dud.
I did not see a huge Romanian clique problem there. The prices were relatively standardized if somewhat high relative to other clubs.
I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.Dear Ninja,
Like Steve said, The facility is great, but you know that. Girls wise, I still support the opinion that for 60 euro, nothing happens in the room. You have a different experience. However, in more general terms, Artemis is excellent, but expensive. For 150-170 I have a great hour. But, sometimes it isn't enough, so 1. 5-2. 5 hours are required. There are lot's of Romanians and more than the average number of Germans at the Moment. There is a good amount of Hungarians and blackies / Latinas. All in all, I believe Artemis is a great facility, more expensive than most, has a great variety of ladies with a shortage in fresh teens.
I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.I was supposed to be in Zurich last weekend but because of a snow storm USA and missed flight connections I changed my plan and visited Berlin instead.
I was in Artemis last Saturday (November 17), spent 6 hours and did 2 half hour sessions. Club was very crowded pretty much the same way during my first visit couple of years ago. Quality of the lineup has gone way downhill since my 1st visit couple of years ago. Lineup last Saturday was average at best with only few good looking ones.
The two Romanian girls I sessioned preferred half hour sessions, didn't charge for DATY / o, kissing wasn't on the menu, one of them offered NCBJ as extra whereas other didn't offer it. Both girls are very young, petite and pretty. I didn't encounter any up selling or sharky behavior from either of them in room. Both wrapped up the session after I finished with 5-10 min still left. One the girl's name is Beatrice and I forgot the other ones name (she sits with Beatrice on the 2nd couch on the left when you enter the lounge).
Nice facilities. Many places to take a nap which is very helpful when you're tired from a long journey.
Saturday 5 pm to 1. 30 am.
Have not visited for a while.
Showed up, busy, lots of customers and good number of girls.
Smoke in the bar was thick and sent some looking for clean air.
After a while, I went with Adele 28 yo from Belgrade 176 cm tall be cup brunette. Nutty squirrel of high intellect.
Wonderful specimen.
Extended session, BB extra, toy extra, no other haggling.
Really quite superb, made wish I was better rested and in better shape so I could do her justice.
Otherwise, food was not so good.
Loud Americans in pool mit Bier. Remove by security.
5 Italians extracting 300 euro from cash machine.
Drug Russian telling one girl he would sober up and prove to he that he truly loved her. Lost sed a tear on that one.
Otherwise: Silvia of Bucharesti. Have not seen for 2 years, looked absolutely edible having returned from 2 hours plus session in room waiting to be paid. Gave her small gift as I left and told she remembered me.
Jayne from Lebanon. Would not take her shoes off in June and proceeded to talk me and bench me to death then but remember me.
Arlev. Turkish German. Still on my fantasy list after several years. Came up and kissed me flush on the lips, surprise since she never kissed in the room.
So I had limited time and had to go but could have stayed and been kept captive for ever. Other also very do able.
Did not rate club on overall line up but enough to make me want to come back.
Reality is that is you want BBBJ it will like cost you 50 euro as an extra.
Jonathan Swift.
ExpatLover
11-20-18, 19:28
Saturday 5 pm to 1. 30 am.
Have not visited for a while.
Showed up, busy, lots of customers and good number of girls.
Smoke in the bar was thick and sent some looking for clean air.
After a while, I went with Adele 28 yo from Belgrade 176 cm tall be cup brunette. Nutty squirrel of high intellect.
Wonderful specimen.
Extended session, BB extra, toy extra, no other haggling.
Really quite superb, made wish I was better rested and in better shape so I could do her justice.
Otherwise, food was not so good.Giving a gift to a prostitute in a FKK? Why not but for sure she will prefer cash.
2009 palace wad phenomenal as well, but that's the trend now. I doubt the good old days will return. Some great private apartments in Berlin.I discovered Palace later after meeting palace girls in Artemis, then it made me curious to go, but I did begin to taste palace from 2014 or 2015 ish and it was still good.
I believe or like to believe Artemis still has one or two stunners in line up, but I will stay away for little more while due to reported condition and what I also experienced during my last visit quite long ago.
If upsell is too harsh, it is actually cheaper to attend globe if you are fly in monger or other cities for FKK in Germany.
PussyLiccker
11-21-18, 09:58
I was supposed to be in Zurich last weekend but because of a snow storm USA and missed flight connections I changed my plan and visited Berlin instead.
I was in Artemis last Saturday (November 17), spent 6 hours and did 2 half hour sessions. Club was very crowded pretty much the same way during my first visit couple of years ago. Quality of the lineup has gone way downhill since my 1st visit couple of years ago. Lineup last Saturday was average at best with only few good looking ones.
The two Romanian girls I sessioned preferred half hour sessions, didn't charge for DATY / o, kissing wasn't on the menu, one of them offered NCBJ as extra whereas other didn't offer it. Both girls are very young, petite and pretty. I didn't encounter any up selling or sharky behavior from either of them in room. Both wrapped up the session after I finished with 5-10 min still left. One the girl's name is Beatrice and I forgot the other ones name (she sits with Beatrice on the 2nd couch on the left when you enter the lounge).
Nice facilities. Many places to take a nap which is very helpful when you're tired from a long journey.Have you been to Austria? I'd check out GT Vienna or Wellcum in Villach. GT is another tourist club with big upsells, but if Artimis LU is doing the same, might as well go there for the better LU. Wellcum girls do not upsell in comparison, but both LUs are good. Personally would visit Wellcum instead of GT due to lack of upsells, with excellent food and facilities.
Have you been to Austria? I'd check out GT Vienna or Wellcum in Villach. GT is another tourist club with big upsells, but if Artimis LU is doing the same, might as well go there for the better LU. Wellcum girls do not upsell in comparison, but both LUs are good. Personally would visit Wellcum instead of GT due to lack of upsells, with excellent food and facilities.Yes, I have visited Vienna twice and tried GT and Funplast In spite of upsells, terrible rooms / facilities / food, I still visit it because of poker room next door where I spend time between sessions.
Funplast is not a bad option because of cheap entry. Strangely I didn't encounter any up charging for services that were free or up selling.
One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger on Welcum is because of difficulties in getting there. Other reason is I wasn't sure about the quality of lineup. How is the lineup there?
I will be theüsseldorf for 3 nights. I plan to visit GT / LR and maybe one other club.
PussyLiccker
11-22-18, 00:47
Yes, I have visited Vienna twice and tried GT and Funplast In spite of upsells, terrible rooms / facilities / food, I still visit it because of poker room next door where I spend time between sessions.
Funplast is not a bad option because of cheap entry. Strangely I didn't encounter any up charging for services that were free or up selling.
One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger on Welcum is because of difficulties in getting there. Other reason is I wasn't sure about the quality of lineup. How is the lineup there?
I will be thesseldorf for 3 nights. I plan to visit GT / LR and maybe one other club.I think the LU is pretty good, but the level of service is below the German clubs. My expereince is that girls don't really upsell, but also rush the room a bit. You're better off in Germany for service. It's 70 per half HR at Wellcum. If you do visit Wellcum, it's best to visit on Friday or Saturday the place doesn't bring in much outsiders besides the Italians in the area, early weekdays are slow with low attendance.
Samya is definately worth checking out if you are ok with loud music. If Fra, Sharks is worth checking out. Particularly Weds and Fridays has the fullest LU.
At least in Villach you have Andiamo too, so that makes it 2 clubs out in the middle of nowhere, while the easy to get to city of Berlin only has one club.
So comparing these two destinations, Villach is a clear winner at the moment.
Maybe one or two clubs in western Germany has girls offering more in the room, but I don't feel Wellcum is behind any German club consistently in looks even if it was down slightly a bit the past 6 months. The thing is, the lead Wellcum had before then was just so big. While now its more on par with the top German clubs.
PussyLiccker
11-22-18, 09:29
At least in Villach you have Andiamo too, so that makes it 2 clubs out in the middle of nowhere, while the easy to get to city of Berlin only has one club.
So comparing these two destinations, Villach is a clear winner at the moment.
Maybe one or two clubs in western Germany has girls offering more in the room, but I don't feel Wellcum is behind any German club consistently in looks even if it was down slightly a bit the past 6 months. The thing is, the lead Wellcum had before then was just so big. While now its more on par with the top German clubs.The drive to Villach is totally worth it, when you get close to the alps. It's quite a sight! Wellcum has a nice backdrop scenery looking from the garden. The neighborhoods though the town routes is picturisque. I was stunned! Facilities, food, and scenery just creates a luxurious feel.
Andiamo is nice to have an alternative, but it is comparatively a small scale LU. Similarly Marina in Slovenia 2 hrs away with same 70 Euro pricing for all 3. And all catering to Italians in the Area. Marina and Andiamo are similar in quantity and quality of the LU with Wellcum being the better choice.
As far as upsells in Funpalast, Lalabo is on the money, it's rare compared to GT Vien, but also, girls are more newish and amateur there. Service is still hit or miss.
I think the LU is pretty good, but the level of service is below the German clubs. My expereince is that girls don't really upsell, but also rush the room a bit. You're better off in Germany for service. It's 70 per half HR at Wellcum. If you do visit Wellcum, it's best to visit on Friday or Saturday the place doesn't bring in much outsiders besides the Italians in the area, early weekdays are slow with low attendance.
Samya is definately worth checking out if you are ok with loud music. If Fra, Sharks is worth checking out. Particularly Weds and Fridays has the fullest LU.PL,
I thought of checking out Samya today, then I read your recent posts about YY and now I am trying to decide which one to visit. Which do you think is better at the moment?
I discovered Palace later after meeting palace girls in Artemis, then it made me curious to go, but I did begin to taste palace from 2014 or 2015 ish and it was still good.
I believe or like to believe Artemis still has one or two stunners in line up, but I will stay away for little more while due to reported condition and what I also experienced during my last visit quite long ago.
If upsell is too harsh, it is actually cheaper to attend globe if you are fly in monger or other cities for FKK in Germany.While that's true. If the option exists go to another city. 60 euro customers are those effected the most. If you are on a one hour level and your willingness to pay is 150-170, then you should be good. Of course lots of landmines in Artemis, so choose carefully. Globe is more expensive, but it is also a different level of service and management. Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.
While that's true. If the option exists go to another city. 60 euro customers are those effected the most. If you are on a one hour level and your willingness to pay is 150-170, then you should be good. Of course lots of landmines in Artemis, so choose carefully. Globe is more expensive, but it is also a different level of service and management. Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.Yeah my tolerance upsell amount is 150 euro and I do not mind upsell like that as long as service is delivered. I mean I am not the type who complain about going over house rate a bit, but when girls break down every service and begin charging for each, I mean I know the prices and I am not ATM toy here. And yes, for that amount, I get services to my satisfaction, of course I accept anal and CIM is optional fee and out side my demand of GFE with above upsell price I am willing to accept.
Well, I am fly in monger and I got choices, so now I monger in other city for little more while. It is too bad I got such a good memories year after year in Artemis, but hey, nothing last forever as they say. One fine day, Artemis would get back to mild upsell club like it once used to be, then I shall be back and try out the club again.
VonderJohn
11-25-18, 18:31
Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?
Nooky Ninja
11-25-18, 22:39
So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?This was discussed for the 1000th time back in mid Sept. Nothing is certain-all just chemistry and choosing well. Ninja know 3 other visitors who have had fine time for 60 E, 30 min, all within past month.
Too much complaining, too much theories. Yes of course be careful and wise with choice, discuss all upfront not in room. But really, anything that can be said on this point has been said so many times, Artemis thread becoming autism center.
Be positive, have fun, make girl feel a little special, relax. How it will go depends a lot on you. Finis.
TheCanadian
11-25-18, 22:40
So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?This is an observation I have been making since two or three years. Even I heard a WG quietly sayning (the 60 Euro Session) ". Should not take longer than 8 minutes."
MaxSquatter
11-26-18, 02:51
Performance quality should improve once we get another recession. Right now money is flowing everywhere and it is overwhelming their need to do a great job. When desires becomes needs they will improve.
This is an observation I have been making since two or three years. Even I heard a WG quietly sayning (the 60 Euro Session) ". Should not take longer than 8 minutes."
ExpatLover
11-26-18, 03:31
Performance quality should improve once we get another recession. Right now money is flowing everywhere and it is overwhelming their need to do a great job. When desires becomes needs they will improve.
The only driver for the girls is money, most of the veteran prostitutes are able to make most of us come in several minutes.
Vienna2017
11-26-18, 21:00
Performance quality should improve once we get another recession. Right now money is flowing everywhere and it is overwhelming their need to do a great job. When desires becomes needs they will improve.I can understand people wanting to make money. Upsell is a form of stealing and that is wrong.
So for clients who are willing to pay only 60 Euros, they should expect, maybe, a 10-minute rushed session? I don't think it can be worse than that, can it?That's pretty accurate, depending on the girl. They can always get bitchy about too much touching or too many positions etc.
That's pretty accurate, depending on the girl. They can always get bitchy about too much touching or too many positions etc.More they get bitchy, more one should fuck her hardcore LOL. This is the only way as a counter strategy.
I mean, in any negotiation, landing point is important to benefit both parties, but some girls in FKK only want her way to get through or no way, so what she get is 60 euro 30 min way of just fucking her like rabbit. What other choice monger have or monger give into her dictatorship level deal.
Vienna2017
11-27-18, 09:26
Gentlemen,
Christmas is coming soon. Is Artemis good for the holidays?
PinballMachine
11-27-18, 16:09
Artemis is closed on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, and between December 26 and December 30 the club is way less crowded, concerning both Girls and robes, I'ts more calm but can be good anyway, closed on New Years eve and January 1th as well.
Gentlemen,
Christmas is coming soon. Is Artemis good for the holidays?Artemis has some days that it is not open. Historically, Christmas and new years. You should call and check.
ExpatLover
11-27-18, 19:46
Gentlemen,
Christmas is coming soon. Is Artemis good for the holidays?December and January are not the best months for FKK.
TeddyBears
11-28-18, 01:43
Have been at Artemis the last few days, Monday was slow with almost more ladies than customers apart from Monday it has been crowded with a very good lineup overall. Actually the best lineup I have seen for at least 4-5 years at Artemis. There are definitely a lot of sharks at Artemis especially the German gang I would say I was quoted 150 euros 30 minutes 300 euros 1 hour for GFE non negotiable, so the Q&A is more important than ever. I went to Artemis this time around with the attitude that I won't pay for imaginary extras such as BBBJ, DATY & Kissing because it becomes expensive fast, but still wanted to have sex with the girls I find attractive.
I have been visiting Artemis since 2009 so I have established a connection to several girls over the years and with these girls I still get the same service level as before. But one of these old familiar faces (Iris) did try to upsell in the room (I declined) the first day, so the next day when she was hoping for another session I laughed and told her I don't pay sharks and thanked her for the last 9 years, she felt ashamed, just sad really. But almost all my sessions was with old favorites since most girls want extra for good service. But wanted to try a few new girls.
I went with a new blonde girl Jordan (Ger) a couple of times, she wears glasses and have big perky enhanced tits. Had her cum in DATY after the first time she asked me if I preferred BJ with or without, told me she normally also charges extra but felt I deserved something for my efforts LOL.
Also went with Valesca Ger / SA) she has apparently been working at Artemis for four years but I haven't seen her before, she was very upfront that she wants extra for BBBJ and kissing but still wanted to be with her, she has a fitness trained tight body with a modest enhanced tits, almost looks Asian. Had a very good time with her despite no extras, super tight everywhere!! Highly recommended anyway!
There were a discussion a few weeks ago in this thread about how much the girls pay at Artemis, the girls that stay and sleep at Artemis pay 140 euros a day, 80 is for entrance, 30 is for tax and 30 is for sleeping there. Apparently if the girls don't live in Berlin they are more or less forced to sleep at the club.
I had a good few days but I will focus my mongering trips to Spain since for me it takes away most of the fun when you need to negotiate service and money. It really should be set prices so you don't feel cheated.
VonderJohn
11-28-18, 01:50
More they get bitchy, more one should fuck her hardcore LOL. This is the only way as a counter strategy.
I mean, in any negotiation, landing point is important to benefit both parties, but some girls in FKK only want her way to get through or no way, so what she get is 60 euro 30 min way of just fucking her like rabbit. What other choice monger have or monger give into her dictatorship level deal.Ahahaha love that attitude by Mr. Ho. Indeed, this is what such bitches deserve. So make sure a girl like that is your first for the day. Pour all your energy into her pussy as a punishment. Yet be prepared that she would be still asking you to stop. Pretend you didn't listen.
ExpatLover
11-29-18, 21:28
Ahahaha love that attitude by Mr. Ho. Indeed, this is what such bitches deserve. So make sure a girl like that is your first for the day. Pour all your energy into her pussy as a punishment. Yet be prepared that she would be still asking you to stop. Pretend you didn't listen.Strange thinking about sex relations, why do you need to dominate a prostitute?
Ahahaha love that attitude by Mr. Ho. Indeed, this is what such bitches deserve. So make sure a girl like that is your first for the day. Pour all your energy into her pussy as a punishment. Yet be prepared that she would be still asking you to stop. Pretend you didn't listen.Well, it put me or experienced monger in hard situation when girls think they can fool you and put you in situation where you got only two choices that are give into their bad service extreme up sell price and get totally ripped off or cut session to 30 min just do doggy hardcore cum and pay 60 euro.
I do not like doing this, but some girls sometimes put you in place where you got no choice and hardcore hard fucking only cum session punishment session is good for just 60 euro, you know get rid of stress you got from her behavior LOL.
Some FKK girls do not understand that in any negotiation both parties have to benefit, but with some of girls, it is only them. , so they get what they get which is 60 euro and my hardcore banging from back LOL.
Again I do not mind mild upsell in exchange for good service, but when they extreme up sell me, I go for 30 min 60 euro punishment session.
Steve 9696
11-30-18, 03:20
Ahahaha love that attitude by Mr. Ho. Indeed, this is what such bitches deserve. So make sure a girl like that is your first for the day. Pour all your energy into her pussy as a punishment. Yet be prepared that she would be still asking you to stop. Pretend you didn't listen.I hope others join me in the opinion that this is disgusting and has no place here. Being violent with a woman because you are angry at her is unacceptable and beneath all of us.
I have no issue with rough sex that is agreed by both parties and paid for. But what you are suggesting is not that. And it's just appalling to suggest such a thing much less actually do it.
Smoke Light
11-30-18, 04:11
Steve, I disagree. A straight vaginal intercourse is not violence. Any fucking, fucking as hard as man can is not violent, it's normal in P6. Most Turkish men fuck really hard, girls expect it and prepare to endure the pounding. Some will try to avoid certain positions, like doggy, to prevent deeper penetration.
Things may change with a larger size dick, which is relatively rare. WGs are professionals, they suppose to measure up and declare upfront what restrictions they want to impose on the session. Some girls say upfront they cannot fuck with such size dick. Others will ask to "go slow" or "go easy", which is a grey area. A man should cancel if he knows he will not finish if unable to fuck hard. Forcing it on her if she is asking to go easy is not good, I do not advocate for it, but is still not violence as long as she does not ask a man to stop. The boundary is when she tries to escape and says stop.
I hope others join me in the opinion that this is disgusting and has no place here. Being violent with a woman because you are angry at her is unacceptable and beneath all of us.
I have no issue with rough sex that is agreed by both parties and paid for. But what you are suggesting is not that. And it's just appalling to suggest such a thing much less actually do it.Because of sweet heart like you, upsell get worst, I am talking just hard humping that involve no violence, I just going to do her hard doggy position, pay 60 euro and I am out of room. Or what buy into extreme upsell, no way!
Nooky Ninja
11-30-18, 09:11
I hope others join me in the opinion that this is disgusting and has no place here. Being violent with a woman because you are angry at her is unacceptable and beneath all of us. I have no issue with rough sex that is agreed by both parties and paid for. But what you are suggesting is not that. And it's just appalling to suggest such a thing much less actually do it.Totally agree and very good you say this.
Says a lot about authors, not there has been much doubt. Not only that they do it (one wonders really do they?), but feel they have to write and gloat about it, in public?! Just all part of how thread has gone off helping and informing others to make good choices, to weird diary notes that should be read to therapist. And just silly to think such behavior will somehow teach a woman a lesson, other than what jerks men can be. Lesson already well known. It is amazing really that FKK scene is relatively calm when so many strong emotions and twisted psychology forces can get released.
This is down side of paid sex-idea that the act must be of a certain performance level and if not, it is simply girl's fault. Reality much more complex. Mood of both people at that moment, chemistry, etc. Not like going to supermarket or department store where produce or product has no conscious emotion or will. Of course, if you really want to act out 19th century childish macho bullshit and never hear complaints or get bad sex, and cannot wait for Westworld, there is good solution: https://dolls-escort-berlin.com/girls/
Rule is simple. If you not enjoy session, you simply stop, discuss getting some or all money back, and if necessary complain to management. And for wannabee punishers, time may come when girl complains to management about you and you get ban from club.
WilliamHuntley
11-30-18, 22:47
Contrary to the posts I've read in this forum over the last few months, I found myself having an EXCELLENT time during my two visits to Artemis the last week of November 2018. I am a fly-in monger from North America. So, I admit that I am not as cost conscious as my Euro friends. The luxury of having so many beautiful women in one place at one time is well worth the cost to me, since I visit so infrequently. The biggest surprise of the visit was the attitude of the women I sessioned with. I had four sessions, and each lady gave a full GFE, even when I wasn't in the mood for it. Also, they were all willing to indulge my smoking fetish at no extra charge. Perhaps because I negotiated up front for 1 hour with 2 extras for 220 in all cases. But, we enjoyed full one hours, no rush, no further upsell, go at my pace, etc.
Gigi. German (Cologne). Gorgeous. Blonde tall slim with small boobs. Looked bored and uninterested at the bar. But once I started talking to her, she lit up and her charming personality shined through. We talked in between the play, and I learned much about her tattoos and plans from more in the future, as well as her plans to get implants in a few weeks. Really acted like she enjoyed her work. Was able to make me cum twice. She asked me for DATY. Smoking Fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
Arase (- Moldovan. Beautiful. Brunette, slim, with huge globe shaped implants. Not a smoker, but she happily agreed to my smoking fetish request and did so quite well. Again, pleasant conversation about her country, Berlin, and music. Suggested some interesting positions. Smoking Fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
Nikita. Russian. Not exactly my type in the face. But good body. And she and her energy in the bar area enticed me. I was exhausted, and she had her work cut out for her, but she came through. Smoking fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
Dalia. Romaninan. Beautiful round face and huge fake boobs on a skinny body. Fantastic GFE. We chatted about travel and movies and family. Creative positions, and wow was she full of energy, maybe I was her first of the night. Suggested I go for two cums as soon as we entered the room. She asked me for DATY, too. Smoking fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
If anyone has contact with any of these girls, let me know please, I'd love to chat with them.
Contrary to the posts I've read in this forum over the last few months, I found myself having an EXCELLENT time during my two visits to Artemis the last week of November 2018. I am a fly-in monger from North America. So, I admit that I am not as cost conscious as my Euro friends. The luxury of having so many beautiful women in one place at one time is well worth the cost to me, since I visit so infrequently. The biggest surprise of the visit was the attitude of the women I sessioned with. I had four sessions, and each lady gave a full GFE, even when I wasn't in the mood for it. Also, they were all willing to indulge my smoking fetish at no extra charge. Perhaps because I negotiated up front for 1 hour with 2 extras for 220 in all cases. But, we enjoyed full one hours, no rush, no further upsell, go at my pace, etc..2 extras? As in anal and CIM extras?
Kosher Kowboy
11-30-18, 23:53
Contrary to the posts I've read in this forum over the last few months, I found myself having an EXCELLENT time during my two visits to Artemis the last week of November 2018. I am a fly-in monger from North America. So, I admit that I am not as cost conscious as my Euro friends. The luxury of having so many beautiful women in one place at one time is well worth the cost to me, since I visit so infrequently. The biggest surprise of the visit was the attitude of the women I sessioned with. I had four sessions, and each lady gave a full GFE, even when I wasn't in the mood for it. Also, they were all willing to indulge my smoking fetish at no extra charge. Perhaps because I negotiated up front for 1 hour with 2 extras for 220 in all cases. But, we enjoyed full one hours, no rush, no further upsell, go at my pace, etc.
Excellent review! I too am a fly-in from North America and the way you look at the costs I do too which is why I will go to Mainhatten often and pay market for THAT club. I do average down with The Gypsies. Since I do go often sometimes I pass on Mainhatten for months and play cheap ball only as I ride the ups and downs of Wall Street. Nice rally this week.
Good for the Gypsies. Good for the Red Toweled Gypsies.
I also have a smoking fetish and pleased they let you enjoy it ' on the house. '.
I think what stands out is the great attitudes you found. A recent review at Palace indicated the same. My experience at Mainhatten has been the exact same. I am not saying other clubs feature girls with bad attitudes but I find a much higher percentage of attitudes / arrogance at other places. To me that is worth paying market at these three clubs. To others, maybe not. Individual choices. I will add in all fairness I have had dozens plus sessions at Oase and Sharks for 50 or 100 where the girls did not upsell and had great attitudes.
ExpatLover
12-01-18, 07:09
Contrary to the posts I've read in this forum over the last few months, I found myself having an EXCELLENT time during my two visits to Artemis the last week of November 2018. I am a fly-in monger from North America. So, I admit that I am not as cost conscious as my Euro friends. The luxury of having so many beautiful women in one place at one time is well worth the cost to me, since I visit so infrequently. The biggest surprise of the visit was the attitude of the women I sessioned with. I had four sessions, and each lady gave a full GFE, even when I wasn't in the mood for it. Also, they were all willing to indulge my smoking fetish at no extra charge. Perhaps because I negotiated up front for 1 hour with 2 extras for 220 in all cases. But, we enjoyed full one hours, no rush, no further upsell, go at my pace, etc.
Gigi. German (Cologne). Gorgeous. Blonde tall slim with small boobs. Looked bored and uninterested at the bar. But once I started talking to her, she lit up and her charming personality shined through. We talked in between the play, and I learned much about her tattoos and plans from more in the future, as well as her plans to get implants in a few weeks. Really acted like she enjoyed her work. Was able to make me cum twice. She asked me for DATY. Smoking Fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
Arase (- Moldovan. Beautiful. Brunette, slim, with huge globe shaped implants. Not a smoker, but she happily agreed to my smoking fetish request and did so quite well. Again, pleasant conversation about her country, Berlin, and music. Suggested some interesting positions. Smoking Fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
Nikita. Russian. Not exactly my type in the face. But good body. And she and her energy in the bar area enticed me. I was exhausted, and she had her work cut out for her, but she came through. Smoking fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
Dalia. Romaninan. Beautiful round face and huge fake boobs on a skinny body. Fantastic GFE. We chatted about travel and movies and family. Creative positions, and wow was she full of energy, maybe I was her first of the night. Suggested I go for two cums as soon as we entered the room. She asked me for DATY, too. Smoking fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM.
If anyone has contact with any of these girls, let me know please, I'd love to chat with them.I reco never start to chat with girls and especially with Artemis one, most of them are in relation with Berlin HA.
Contrary to the posts I've read in this forum over the last few months, I found myself having an EXCELLENT time during my two visits to Artemis the last week of November 2018. I am a fly-in monger from North America. So, I admit that I am not as cost conscious as my Euro friends. The luxury of having so many beautiful women in one place at one time is well worth the cost to me, since I visit so infrequently. The biggest surprise of the visit was the attitude of the women I sessioned with. I had four sessions, and each lady gave a full GFE, even when I wasn't in the mood for it. Also, they were all willing to indulge my smoking fetish at no extra charge. Perhaps because I negotiated up front for 1 hour with 2 extras for 220 in all cases. But, we enjoyed full one hours, no rush, no further upsell, go at my pace, etc.
Gigi. German (Cologne). Gorgeous. Blonde tall slim with small boobs. Looked bored and uninterested at the bar. But once I started talking to her, she lit up and her charming personality shined through. We talked in between the play, and I learned much about her tattoos and plans from more in the future, as well as her plans to get implants in a few weeks. Really acted like she enjoyed her work. Was able to make me cum twice. She asked me for DATY. Smoking Fetish, DATY, BBBJ, CIM..220 an hour is not a negotiation price. It is a price where one gets raped. LOL. All of what you just described is really done for 170. Artemis is an expensive club, but for 220 an hour is really unnecessary, even at Artemis. 170 is the higher range of the service you describe. I've seen worst thought, people who paid 220 and got nothing. But for future reference, negotiation means 170 for all that and even in Artemis the girl will be super pleased.
Kosher Kowboy
12-02-18, 01:40
220 an hour is not a negotiation price. It is a price where one gets raped. LOL. All of what you just described is really done for 170. Artemis is an expensive club, but for 220 an hour is really unnecessary, even at Artemis. 170 is the higher range of the service you describe. I've seen worst thought, people who paid 220 and got nothing. But for future reference, negotiation means 170 for all that and even in Artemis the girl will be super pleased.How do you arrive at 170 out of curiosity. Steve6969 has been there several times recently found this generalized pricing list he posted.
The standard pricing was 60 base, which I of course was not interested in. Then 50 extra for that extra you don't talk about without whispering, and 50 for kissing. All the girls seem to bundle DATY and some level of FIV with the kissing option. I did have one girl offer kissing for 20 but there was no DATY or FIV with that. So generally 160 a half and 220 a whole for a full experience.
If 60 is base for a rushed no thrills half hour and the guy adds on 2 extras (usually 50 each w exception Anal at 100) as reported by William Huntley than William's two extras would be 100 e plus the 60 e which is close to the 170 you mentioned. However, that is a half hour session, tack on the fact it was an hour with some extras this guy did than price (based on Steve's post) would be higher than the 170 all inclusive you are suggesting.
So I ask how you break down your numbers.
To arrive at a ' wedding night' 170 e Artemis hour?
The smoking fetish aside of course as there was no charge for inhaling carcinogens. The extras I am not sure of as to what he enjoyed or paid for or didn't but your 170 for ' all that' seems low...
WilliamHuntley
12-02-18, 01:41
220 an hour is not a negotiation price. It is a price where one gets raped. LOL. All of what you just described is really done for 170. Artemis is an expensive club, but for 220 an hour is really unnecessary, even at Artemis. 170 is the higher range of the service you describe. I've seen worst thought, people who paid 220 and got nothing. But for future reference, negotiation means 170 for all that and even in Artemis the girl will be super pleased.With all due respect, sir, to each his own. I believe this to be standard pricing from what I read on this site.
Cheers!
So I ask how you break down your numbers.
To arrive at a ' wedding night' 170 e Artemis hour?
The smoking fetish aside of course as there was no charge for inhaling carcinogens. The extras I am not sure of as to what he enjoyed or paid for or didn't but your 170 for ' all that' seems low...I am glad not to be Danny227. But I need a post.
From what I know and if I am smart enough to take the written reports here as an evidence for what is going on in madhouse Artemis it seems to me low too. To low.
William had 4 sessions. Every room for one hour, makes a minimum of 120 e per room. He also had BBBJ - 50 e extra, CumInMouth - 50 e extra, DATY - 50 e extra, Soft Fetish, Smoking - 50 e extra (usually) and also "friendly" attitude - 50 e extra. Makes from my mathematics 370 e for one hour, but he only had paid 220 e per room and hour.
I think the girls William roomed were dumping the prices. Girls who are pushing down the official agreed prices normally get kicked out off Artemis quicker as you can say "Schabernack".
That's why I highly recommend to everybody: Please pay a girl after the session double the rate she is asking for. Just to save her from getting kicked out for dumping the prices.
I also recommend not to fly around the world just for ten minutes sex. At least not to often. The icebergs are melting.
Steve 9696
12-02-18, 04:28
With all due respect, sir, to each his own. I believe this to be standard pricing from what I read on this site.
Cheers!Again, the pricing seemed very standardized assuming you are going with a high optics girl.
60 a half hour standard.
50 for that thing we don't say out loud anymore.
50 for DFK / DATY /(FIV, Tittie Fuck, COB) combo.
60 to add a half hour.
So, yes a full half will be 50+50+60=160 and a full hour will be another 60 so 220.
And yes, you can get 170/ HR. Just skip kissing and DATY or go CBJ and keep kissing and DATY. Both of these add to 60+50+60=170.
My experience was the kissing was lame save Emma who only charged 20 (but no FIV). So I tried to skip kissing. But if you skip kissing you are also skipping the other extras also. With Salome, I agreed a 110 half skipping the kissing the second time. But then in room she said if I want to tittie fuck (and believe me you do - with her DDs) that would be additional 50 so back to the 160 again. May as well take the bundle deal and be done with it. I was happy with my 220/hr room with Karina also.
Bottom line is Artemis is more expensive than Sharks and Oase because Sharks, Oase, Palace, and Mainhattan are an Uber away from one another. Artemis is an island and charges monopoly prices. It is what it is the only game in town.
In retrospect I wish I discovered Emma (Emmanuela) earlier as the best value for me. I adore DFK when it’s good but can forgo Daty and FIV if i must. So for 60+50+20=130 u can have a great half or 190 for a full hour. Unfortunately I discovered her dead last at 3:00AM on a Tuesday night. She was sitting on an ottoman on the right as you walk in. Long black hair, lovely eyes, really slim. She was totally naked — pussy blowing in the wind. Beautiful and hard worker (my ninth shot in two days). Definite repeat, particularly at that price and because she knows how to kiss.
Again, the pricing seemed very standardized assuming you are going with a high optics girl.
60 a half hour standard.
50 for that thing we don't say out loud anymore.
50 for DFK / DATY /(FIV, Tittie Fuck, COB) combo.
60 to add a half hour.
So, yes a full half will be 50+50+60=160 and a full hour will be another 60 so 220.
And yes, you can get 170/ HR. Just skip kissing and DATY or go CBJ and keep kissing and DATY. Both of these add to 60+50+60=170..This price is more than Globe Zurich and not acceptable LOL!
Nooky Ninja
12-02-18, 13:08
For 1001th time, personal experience, know 3 others in past month, 60 Eur 30 min "GFE" still possible if you choose well, and maybe are a little charming, or just decent to girl, and show you are not newbee.
Best is be able to walk away from silly prices. Seems many now just capitulate and ruining it. If you pay more, your choice. Tourists, people under time pressure may feel they must. But it is not a must.
Paying so much becomes ridiculous (not even including entrance fee) when you remember in mid-high end bordellos, 1 hour is 130-150 ish with super nice girls, maybe even better than A (van Kampen, Liberty, Prestige, Ginas Tango, Royale, Salon Delux, Mon Rouge, Maria Rot), etc. No food, no hanging out, no sauna. Different scene for sure. Time to let markets work.
TeddyBears
12-02-18, 19:27
I don't want to point fingers at someone here but I totally agree with Nooky Ninja here, if you are quoted silly prices then either you walk away or you negotiate them down, and if you still have a good gut feel about it go with her. But honestly if you are quoted such prices what are the chances of that being a good session when it starts with haggling about money?! As Nooky mentioned if all people just pay up it really ruins it for everybody else, please don't!!
220 is way too much for an hour, you need to understand that DATY, BBBJ, DFK is just imaginary extras and shouldn't cost a penny in a perfect world, it's more about chemistry. But we don't live in a perfect world, but you could easily negotiate all mentioned 'extras' included for 50 total or have them included in longer sessions, therefore Danny227 comment of 170/ hour I guess?! To even consider paying for DATY is just madness. The German gang Lara, Megan etc etc is girls to avoid if you don't want to be ripped off completely.
With entrance at 80 already then prices at the club shouldn't be high, because then there are absolutely no reasons to even visit the club. Again as Nooky mentioned there are other ways to have good sex for less money. I for one is going to Spain more frequently where all these so called extras is included for less price if you just talk with the girl before heading to the room. The good weather of Spain is another plus, yes it's true they don't have FKK's but on the other side their clubs don't charge 80 euros entrance either, if they do charge something you always get a drink voucher as well. Another plus is all the beautiful Latina in Spain!
To each their own.
ExpatLover
12-02-18, 20:44
Again, the pricing seemed very standardized assuming you are going with a high optics girl.
60 a half hour standard.
50 for that thing we don't say out loud anymore.
50 for DFK / DATY /(FIV, Tittie Fuck, COB) combo.
60 to add a half hour.
So, yes a full half will be 50+50+60=160 and a full hour will be another 60 so 220.
And yes, you can get 170/ HR. Just skip kissing and DATY or go CBJ and keep kissing and DATY. Both of these add to 60+50+60=170..You are a funny guy just completely destroying the price policy probably without being aware of it.
How do you arrive at 170 out of curiosity. Steve6969 has been there several times recently found this generalized pricing list he posted.
If 60 is base for a rushed no thrills half hour and the guy adds on 2 extras (usually 50 each w exception Anal at 100) as reported by William Huntley than William's two extras would be 100 e plus the 60 e which is close to the 170 you mentioned. However, that is a half hour session, tack on the fact it was an hour with some extras this guy did than price (based on Steve's post) would be higher than the 170 all inclusive you are suggesting.
So I ask how you break down your numbers.
To arrive at a ' wedding night' 170 e Artemis hour?
The smoking fetish aside of course as there was no charge for inhaling carcinogens. The extras I am not sure of as to what he enjoyed or paid for or didn't but your 170 for ' all that' seems low...A good one hour at Artemis including all but anal and CIM is generally 150-170. If you add CIM it really depends how you negotiate with the girl because the longer you stay the BBBJ extra is waved. Don't think that it is so easy for girls to catch guys for sessions. So when they have a guaranteed 170 in one hour, you get all the GFE you want, if the girl provides that service in general. Now of course, if you are revolting, with big unclean teeth, long hair, which is unclean and unmaitained and generally look like a dirty over weight horse, girls will be reluctant to kiss you or be overly intimate with you and will definitely insist on extras. If you are on the well groomed side and clean and have a decent social IQ, you should be ok. And 170 isn't on the cheap side. It is really the right price where no one gets screwed and when the girl is great and you stay the full hour, throw in another 10. Think that for 200 you get a private escort in Berlin that will leave you speechless. 2 hours go to 350 normally. All is included normally. Anal is subjective. Private apartments in Berlin, you need to know where to go and which girl to choose as it can get expensive and service is not guaranteed. Quite a few Artemis girls post private ads online for 150 an hour. If business was so great that they make 110 in 10 minutes, they would not do that. Good luck.
Steve 9696
12-02-18, 23:30
OK thanks for not flaming me too badly. Economics and taste differ for us all and therefore so do prices. Let me state things a bit more clearly plus some opinion.
1. The prices I stated were indeed the non-negotiated rates offered pretty consistently.
2. I tried to negotiate with my first girl Salome and she would not budge.
3. In a negotiation you need to be able to walk to be truly effective. I was not willing to walk. I tend to find only a small handful of girls I would go with, so I tend to want to go with them once engaged.
4. As far as 50 extra for BBBJ, as I've mentioned in the lounge I find this reasonable. Yes, it used to be "free" but it also used to be legal. In my experience worldwide, illegal acts cost more than legal acts. So we should not be surprised that it costs now. This is not just Artemis.
5. For me personally 50 Extra for whatever is nothing. She needs it way more than I do. And I will never miss that money, but I would surely miss the experience. So I marvel in reverse when guys walk away from a girl they want over 50. I would never do that.
6. I take exception with those that say guys like me are ruining the market. There is no such thing as ruining the market. There is only the market itself. Prices will sort themselves naturally based on supply and demand.
So in summary I am sure other prices can be had by those more skilled at negotiating, willing to walk away or settle for less. That is not me.
Ps There was a near case study on this recently— I think it was in the Sharks thread. Lothano, who is notorious for trying to find a deal and PayFotIt, who is willing to pay what is asked, met up and had a great time together. But their reports say it all. Lothano could not find a price he liked for the services he wanted and went home empty handed and a bit down. PayForIt paid the “overly ambitious” rates and had a great time. Go figure.
Nooky Ninja
12-03-18, 00:38
I take exception with those that say guys like me are ruining the market. There is no such thing as ruining the market. There is only the market itself. Prices will sort themselves naturally based on supply and demand.Look, you and others can pay what you want, and you must decide value. Time pressure plays big role. But, since law change (which we now know is silly and not enforced) girls take advantage. Big picture is this. Look at multiple websites in Berlin -bordello home pages, kaufmich, Berlin intim etc. And you will find well over 3000 girls working here. They charge about 140 ish for a fine hour with most extras. That is competitive market price now in Berlin. For years, Artemis prices were about this level. (To be fair, prices for girls both in and outside A in Berlin have changed little in over 15 years so with some (very) slight inflation maybe 5-10% would be reasonable).
Since new law (which has not changed prices in "outside" Berlin market at all) some Artemis girls seem to be getting away with almost double this, if you include portion of 80 Eur entrance fee. They do this because conditions inside distort market which means some ideal notion of simple supply and demand do not work. An incomplete list. Imperfect, asymmetric information; barriers to entry and exit; oligopoly, collusion, poor enforcement of contract; too many buyers chasing too few sellers; and and and (sounds like conditions for Trump company). There is story that during a Logistics Messe, crowding was so bad and girls so scarce inside that they were able to charge 200 for 30 minutes and guys were paying. Management was not happy.
This fancy way of saying many factors make mongers buying power now severely limited inside house. But bottom line (literally) is. Men are accepting this when even within 500 meters (Prestige) they need not. For what some are paying you could have 2 girls (1 hour each with full extras) outside, meal at decent restaurant, spend all day at Europa Center Thermal Bath for swimming, jacuzzi, sauna, or even few hours at Vibali Spa, for far less money. And as TeddyBears says, such expensive girls are likely to be bad experience. While in London or Moscow or USA you can of course spend a lot more, the Berlin market is less. People need to understand this as it seems they are ruining it in Artemis, where really girls are nothing special-certainly not compared to outside Berlin with thousands (or at least hundreds) of comparable choices.
So Artemis market seems to be becoming distorted compared to far larger Berlin market, with comparable experiences. But only because mongers tolerate this.
At some point, word will get out and things may settle back a little to where they should be. But you do need to be prepared to refuse crazy high prices. What seems to have happened is many are not. It is a choice and if you are patient, polite, flexible, and decent, you can find enough alternatives inside Artemis who will give a very good time for reasonable price.
Steve 9696
12-03-18, 01:13
Is there a law that causes the Salons to close at 10 or 11? I don't get started till then and that is really the problem. I had a nice experience at Agentur Liberty and would repeat there or Prestige or wherever. THIS is the problem.
If these were open till midnight or two or something they'the be an alternative. Why is Artemis the only "multi girl high end" place that is open late night?
ExpatLover
12-03-18, 02:19
5. For me personally 50 Extra for whatever is nothing. She needs it way more than I do. And I will never miss that money, but I would surely miss the experience. So I marvel in reverse when guys walk away from a girl they want over 50. I would never do that.
Probably are you not aware about what will probably be the yearly income of that girl, obviously you are not supporting guys like me who are not willing to pay any extra except anal and CIM, but I don t care since the new law so many girls are not willing to register so it is far easier to find excellent private escort with great service and girls who are not getting fucked 10 or 20 times per day and this is changing many things at least for me.
BigBuddy69
12-03-18, 07:15
5. For me personally 50 Extra for whatever is nothing. She needs it way more than I do. And I will never miss that money, but I would surely miss the experience. So I marvel in reverse when guys walk away from a girl they want over 50. I would never do that.Very nice. So why don't you go to Globe where the rates are higher? Or you can pay an escort. I saw that Anny Aurora was escorting, 850 € / 1 h, that's not so much and she needs it more than you. I'm always amazed at people who like to pay more. There are a lot of places where the rates are higher, so go! Next time I'll go buy some bread at the bakery, I'll pay 5 € instead of 1 € because well, it's nothing for me! I think there are lots of CEO's and surgeons on this board but believe me, when I started working at the same age of those girls, I was making something like 65-70 € a day and I had a degree in mathematics. A few years ago when I started attending those clubs, I was way richer, making 100 € a day (and not an hour or half an hour). Now I'm more confortable but there is still no Ferrari / Audi / BMW / Porsche awaiting in the garage. Each time you play the generous guy in all those clubs because it's nothing for you, you're participating to the worsening of the experience for the guys less fortunate than you.
Everybody talks about supply and demand here, maybe I should buy new glasses but everytime I go to some well known club in NRW (besides GT but I don't go), the ladies are far from full-booked, actually most of them are stuck on their couch for a good chunk of the day, so I'd say that the supply is actually greater than the demand. And it's worse in the lesser known clubs. Some girls barely make enough rooms to cover the club entry cost.
Nooky Ninja
12-03-18, 12:37
Is there a law that causes the Salons to close at 10 or 11? I don't get started till then and that is really the problem. Why is Artemis the only "multi girl high end" place that is open late night?There are options: MonRouge open late, Aston, Rush Hour, Yingyang, SexyCandyShop, Mon Amie, Maison de Envie, Club Mona and others a bit downmarket, also. Search https://www.berlinintim.de/bordell-berlin.html.
"High End" in eye of beholder. Artemis in Ninja opinion nothing special-a few gems, most just normal girls. Most girls in bordellos have other real life, students, other jobs, etc. Like to sleep normal hours. So do their clients. Different market.
The normal hour private bordellos in general seem to have better girls and a happier, healthier lifestyle. Not industrial factory with all complications of girls living at Artemis, more (and fewer) upscale clients, much more chill atmosphere.
Best is you cancel all business meetings after 1800, and take long lunch breaks...
Very nice. So why don't you go to Globe where the rates are higher? Or you can pay an escort. I saw that Anny Aurora was escorting, 850 / 1 h, that's not so much and she needs it more than you. I'm always amazed at people who like to pay more. There are a lot of places where the rates are higher, so go! Next time I'll go buy some bread at the bakery, I'll pay 5 instead of 1 because well, it's nothing for me! I think there are lots of CEO's and surgeons on this board but believe me, when I started working at the same age of those girls, I was making something like 65-70 a day and I had a degree in mathematics. A few years ago when I started attending those clubs, I was way richer, making 100 a day (and not an hour or half an hour). Now I'm more confortable but there is still no Ferrari / Audi / BMW / Porsche awaiting in the garage. Each time you play the generous guy in all those clubs because it's nothing for you, you're participating to the worsening of the experience for the guys less fortunate than you.
Everybody talks about supply and demand here, maybe I should buy new glasses but everytime I go to some well known club in NRW (besides GT but I don't go), the ladies are far from full-booked, actually most of them are stuck on their couch for a good chunk of the day, so I'd say that the supply is actually greater than the demand. And it's worse in the lesser known clubs. Some girls barely make enough rooms to cover the club entry cost.Good men! I second your words.
BB69. I second Danny227. Succumbing to overpaying and thereby encouraging overcharging, whilst benefitting some girls, depresses demand, reducing overall earnings, however much the supplier cartels try to boost their income.
Girls I know who work for 70 or 90 an hour (not at Artemis of course) are constantly busy and are very happy with their earnings. Able to buy a house and an upmarket car, pay for childcare, support parents, and so on.
If Steve wants to give his money away then I don't criticise him, as he says the experience is worth the money. But I wonder if the experience is any better than with a cheaper girl: in my encounters it has often been the non grasping girls who are the best.
Der Auslander
12-03-18, 22:12
BB69. I second Danny227. Succumbing to overpaying and thereby encouraging overcharging, whilst benefitting some girls, depresses demand, reducing overall earnings, however much the supplier cartels try to boost their income.
Girls I know who work for 70 or 90 an hour (not at Artemis of course) are constantly busy and are very happy with their earnings. Able to buy a house and an upmarket car, pay for childcare, support parents, and so on.
If Steve wants to give his money away then I don't criticise him, as he says the experience is worth the money. But I wonder if the experience is any better than with a cheaper girl: in my encounters it has often been the non grasping girls who are the best.Very well said Herr Optimist!
I find myself in absolute and complete agreement with your opinion on this matter.
Rather than overpay, why not reward good performance by staying extra time in the room or by booking the lady for another session?!?
Vienna2017
12-03-18, 23:05
Request for comments. Some people take the position that Artemis gives a lesser service than the Frankfurt FKK clubs because Artemis is the only business of its kind in Berlin. What are your opinions? My view is that the lack of competition in Berlin makes for lesser quality. Artemis is heavily dependent on tourist that will never return. The local guys are a minority and they know which females to be with.
TeddyBears
12-04-18, 01:03
Request for comments. Some people take the position that Artemis gives a lesser service than the Frankfurt FKK clubs because Artemis is the only business of its kind in Berlin. What are your opinions? My view is that the lack of competition in Berlin makes for lesser quality. Artemis is heavily dependent on tourist that will never return. The local guys are a minority and they know which females to be with.My view on this matter is that if you are a newbie on a club and none of the girls recognize you, they majority of the girls will try to hustle you. It happened to me a few times in the Frankfurt clubs (Oase, Palace) a couple of years ago, this was before the new law regarding BBBJ but a majority of the girls wouldn't give it unless I paid extra or extend the session. So from personal experience I think it's about if the girls see you as a newbie / tourist or a experienced monger.
But I agree it would be very useful to know if the girls at the Frankfurt clubs use the same tactics as in Artemis and how much one hour with GFE service is at Palace, Sharks, Oase, World & Mainhattan at this moment.
ExpatLover
12-04-18, 07:38
My view on this matter is that if you are a newbie on a club and none of the girls recognize you, they majority of the girls will try to hustle you. It happened to me a few times in the Frankfurt clubs (Oase, Palace) a couple of years ago, this was before the new law regarding BBBJ but a majority of the girls wouldn't give it unless I paid extra or extend the session. So from personal experience I think it's about if the girls see you as a newbie / tourist or a experienced monger.
But I agree it would be very useful to know if the girls at the Frankfurt clubs use the same tactics as in Artemis and how much one hour with GFE service is at Palace, Sharks, Oase, World & Mainhattan at this moment.Artemis is owned by HA, most of the girls have connections with them, they are also older than in Hessen clubs, many tourists around or fair visitors, no other club in town sorry but like in other business this is not leading to optimized prices and services.
Request for comments. Some people take the position that Artemis gives a lesser service than the Frankfurt FKK clubs because Artemis is the only business of its kind in Berlin. What are your opinions? My view is that the lack of competition in Berlin makes for lesser quality. Artemis is heavily dependent on tourist that will never return. The local guys are a minority and they know which females to be with.Frankfurt clubs are a better deal, so if it is a choice, go there. That said, pretty accurate, some tourist come back, most don't come too often and can't tell the difference. Not too many local clients, but quite a few (not comparable to locals in the Frankfurt area). But better service, but still more expensive but than the Frankfurt area.
Vienna2017
12-07-18, 10:58
Frankfurt clubs are a better deal, so if it is a choice, go there. That said, pretty accurate, some tourist come back, most don't come too often and can't tell the difference. Not too many local clients, but quite a few (not comparable to locals in the Frankfurt area). But better service, but still more expensive but than the Frankfurt area.I agree with you. The Frankfurt clubs are a better deal than Artemis.
TeddyBears
12-17-18, 03:27
I am curious, have anyone seen Valentina (Col) lately at Artemis? I just remembered that I have had a few of my most memorable and intense sessions with her, she was a bit crazy in the room but in a very good way I might add! Not only was the sex spectacular but most times you would get a very good massage as well.
Do anyone know her whereabouts?!
TheCanadian
12-17-18, 21:46
Hi folks,
Does anyone could let me know please whether Arte is open on January 02?
Thanks!
TeddyBears
12-18-18, 19:41
The Canadian.
It will be open, but don't expect it to be crowded with women due to the holidays.
Look, you and others can pay what you want, and you must decide value. Time pressure plays big role. But, since law change (which we now know is silly and not enforced) girls take advantage. Big picture is this. Look at multiple websites in Berlin -bordello home pages, kaufmich, Berlin intim etc. And you will find well over 3000 girls working here. They charge about 140 ish for a fine hour with most extras. That is competitive market price now in Berlin. For years, Artemis prices were about this level. (To be fair, prices for girls both in and outside A in Berlin have changed little in over 15 years so with some (very) slight inflation maybe 5-10% would be reasonable).
Since new law (which has not changed prices in "outside" Berlin market at all) some Artemis girls seem to be getting away with almost double this, if you include portion of 80 Eur entrance fee. They do this because conditions inside distort market which means some ideal notion of simple supply and demand do not work. An incomplete list. Imperfect, asymmetric information; barriers to entry and exit; oligopoly, collusion, poor enforcement of contract; too many buyers chasing too few sellers; and and and (sounds like conditions for Trump company). There is story that during a Logistics Messe, crowding was so bad and girls so scarce inside that they were able to charge 200 for 30 minutes and guys were paying. Management was not happy..True Ninja. Agree with all, but I don't think you can find good quality at reasonable prices anymore in Artemis. Of course, people may define good quality differently. I try to stick to privates or go to NRW or Hessen FKK. The problem is the tourists in Artemis. In a local market these pieces would end before they start.
I went there recently. They have cameras in the locker rooms pointed right at you as you get changed into an old scruffy pink rob that's really short.
The first girl that approached me was fat and ugly. I told her pretty much right away that I wasn't interested, but she continued trying to seduce me for another 5 minutes or so. After she finally left, a tall girl who I turned down from earlier walked by and asked me "are you ready baby". She looked good, but I wanted to relax and scope out the place first. And I wanted 1 better looking than her.
Later, Pamela sat down talked to me, and I told her everything I wanted. She told me it would all be included for the same price with no upselling. I verified this with her 2-3 times before leaving the bar. When we got to the room, she asked me "what do you like"? I said I already told you downstairs. She said, oh for this and that, it's an extra 50 euros! But we had already agreed that everything I asked for was included when we spoke downstairs. She kept arguing with me and denying it. I went and complained to management downstairs, and even though she did lie, management sided with her and also lied and said I was already in the room with her for 10 minutes even though it was more like 2-3. Pamela is also a racist who was saying negative things about Romanians.
This place is absolute garbage and apparently they have an interest in just ripping off foreigners or anyone that they can. And management lets them do it and backs them up. I heard mixed reviews about the place before going, and there aren't many options for FKK in Berlin. But I shouldn't have gone apparently.
VonderJohn
12-27-18, 12:54
I went there recently. They have cameras in the locker rooms pointed right at you as you get changed into an old scruffy pink rob that's really short.
The first girl that approached me was fat and ugly. I told her pretty much right away that I wasn't interested, but she continued trying to seduce me for another 5 minutes or so. After she finally left, a tall girl who I turned down from earlier walked by and asked me "are you ready baby". She looked good, but I wanted to relax and scope out the place first. And I wanted 1 better looking than her.
Later, Pamela sat down talked to me, and I told her everything I wanted. She told me it would all be included for the same price with no upselling. I verified this with her 2-3 times before leaving the bar. When we got to the room, she asked me "what do you like"? I said I already told you downstairs. She said, oh for this and that, it's an extra 50 euros! But we had already agreed that everything I asked for was included when we spoke downstairs. She kept arguing with me and denying it. I went and complained to management downstairs, and even though she did lie, management sided with her and also lied and said I was already in the room with her for 10 minutes even though it was more like 2-3..Apparently your attitude is based on a single bad experience with one cheat girl. I think you were just unlucky this time and this isn't always the case. Spending more time and making another choice of a lady might have made it up for you.
However, in your case (when the lady starts denying the agreement), I suggest you leave the room immediately before doing any action. End it right there. If she complains, give her 10 euros for the 2-3 minutes you spent with her, but not more. I'd certainly end it and not proceed with her.
I went there recently. They have cameras in the locker rooms pointed right at you as you get changed into an old scruffy pink rob that's really short.
The first girl that approached me was fat and ugly. I told her pretty much right away that I wasn't interested, but she continued trying to seduce me for another 5 minutes or so. After she finally left, a tall girl who I turned down from earlier walked by and asked me "are you ready baby". She looked good, but I wanted to relax and scope out the place first. And I wanted 1 better looking than her.
Later, Pamela sat down talked to me, and I told her everything I wanted. She told me it would all be included for the same price with no upselling. I verified this with her 2-3 times before leaving the bar. When we got to the room, she asked me "what do you like"? I said I already told you downstairs. She said, oh for this and that, it's an extra 50 euros! But we had already agreed that everything I asked for was included when we spoke downstairs. She kept arguing with me and denying it..I've noticed that you have less than 10 posts here on this site so far discussing mongering locales from all over the world. Canada, Australia, Brazil, Austria, The United Kingdom, Germany, Australia. And most of your posts are loaded with negativity. What's up with that? Since it all seems to suck no matter where you are, including in my two top favorites of Brazil and Germany, do you think that maybe. It could be you? And that you need to adjust your approach and attitude? I don't know. I'm just saying. It's a crying shame to have the opportunity to travel the world and not be enjoying yourself when so, so, so many people don't have that luxury. My last trip to Germany, the absolute star of the entire extensive trip was found at Artemis. German, tall, blonde and blue, smoking hot per my tastes, and a superior performer! I'm just saying homes. Maybe you ought to consider how you're rolling and change some things up. I'm just saying.
I've noticed that you have less than 10 posts here on this site so far discussing mongering locales from all over the world. Canada, Australia, Brazil, Austria, The United Kingdom, Germany, Australia. And most of your posts are loaded with negativity. What's up with that? Since it all seems to suck no matter where you are, including in my two top favorites of Brazil and Germany, do you think that maybe. It could be you? And that you need to adjust your approach and attitude? I don't know. I'm just saying. It's a crying shame to have the opportunity to travel the world and not be enjoying yourself when so, so, so many people don't have that luxury. My last trip to Germany, the absolute star of the entire extensive trip was found at Artemis. German, tall, blonde and blue, smoking hot per my tastes, and a superior performer! I'm just saying homes. Maybe you ought to consider how you're rolling and change some things up. I'm just saying.All that aside, it pains me to admit that as I am an Artemis fan, he does have a point and the fact the reception doesn't acknowledge that is a bigger issue. You can find still decent service at Artemis fir a minimum of 170 an hour, but the girl's jackpot is 110 in 30 minutes that are cut to 12-15 minutes. Not a good situation at Artemis at the moment. Hopefully, will change in the next year or two.
All that aside, it pains me to admit that as I am an Artemis fan, he does have a point and the fact the reception doesn't acknowledge that is a bigger issue. You can find still decent service at Artemis fir a minimum of 170 an hour, but the girl's jackpot is 110 in 30 minutes that are cut to 12-15 minutes. Not a good situation at Artemis at the moment. Hopefully, will change in the next year or two.Well lucky for me I have never had any of these issues at Artemis, and the place has always produced the goods for me. Although, last time I did find the main bar to be too smokey, and I eventually got sick from that, but it was well worth it in return for my never to be forgotten sessions with beautiful blue-eyed, blonde, German "Lilia" from Kiel! And all the many, many other unforgettable sessions I have had at Artemis over the years. Definitely one of my "must-do" clubs when touring Germany!
ExpatLover
12-28-18, 13:56
Well lucky for me I have never had any of these issues at Artemis, and the place has always produced the goods for me. Although, last time I did find the main bar to be too smokey, and I eventually got sick from that, but it was well worth it in return for my never to be forgotten sessions with beautiful blue-eyed, blonde, German "Lilia" from Kiel! And all the many, many other unforgettable sessions I have had at Artemis over the years. Definitely one of my "must-do" clubs when touring Germany!Lucky guy your experience is exactly the opposite of what many German monger are reporting on the German forums, probably they are more demanding.
Well lucky for me I have never had any of these issues at Artemis, and the place has always produced the goods for me. Although, last time I did find the main bar to be too smokey, and I eventually got sick from that, but it was well worth it in return for my never to be forgotten sessions with beautiful blue-eyed, blonde, German "Lilia" from Kiel! And all the many, many other unforgettable sessions I have had at Artemis over the years. Definitely one of my "must-do" clubs when touring Germany!Lilia is one of the greatest girls in Artemis, no doubt about it. But, there are not many like her, especially when one visits weekly, you need to refresh and choose a new girl, wo out of more than 100 girls you may have a good ten.
Vienna2017
01-01-19, 21:34
I went there recently. They have cameras in the locker rooms pointed right at you as you get changed into an old scruffy pink rob that's really short.
The first girl that approached me was fat and ugly. I told her pretty much right away that I wasn't interested, but she continued trying to seduce me for another 5 minutes or so. After she finally left, a tall girl who I turned down from earlier walked by and asked me "are you ready baby". She looked good, but I wanted to relax and scope out the place first. And I wanted 1 better looking than her.
Later, Pamela sat down talked to me, and I told her everything I wanted. She told me it would all be included for the same price with no upselling. I verified this with her 2-3 times before leaving the bar. When we got to the room, she asked me "what do you like"? I said I already told you downstairs. She said, oh for this and that, it's an extra 50 euros! But we had already agreed that everything I asked for was included when we spoke downstairs. She kept arguing with me and denying it. I went and complained to management downstairs, and even though she did lie, management sided with her and also lied and said I was already in the room with her for 10 minutes even though it was more like 2-3..This place is absolute garbage and apparently they have an interest in just ripping off foreigners or anyone that they can. And management lets them do it and backs them up. Agreed Artemis is a scam for ripping off foreigners.
I am headed to Berlin next month. I can't go to another city. I don't need late night, can go during the day. I just read a bunch here and from what I see I think I should avoid Artemis and go somewhere that is a bit more relaxed and reasonable. What are the FKKs you senior members suggest I look at in Berlin?
Traveller63
01-03-19, 19:18
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It is true that Artemis has a Berlin FKK monopoly and many one-time-only punters, this tends to push prices up. After the Police raid (c. 18 months ago. All charges dropped, when last heard the owners were suing the Police for false arrest) management will be wary of 'managing' the ladies and the prices charged, its illegal.
If people act like mugs they may well get mugged, but be sensible, talk to the girls and your fellow punters. The older guys who are talking in a friendly way to a number of girls are the regulars and they can point you in the right direction.
Most of the robes are now dark red. Its only the XXXXL that are the old peach coloured robes and are a bit tatty.
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ExpatLover
01-03-19, 23:13
I am headed to Berlin next month. I can't go to another city. I don't need late night, can go during the day. I just read a bunch here and from what I see I think I should avoid Artemis and go somewhere that is a bit more relaxed and reasonable. What are the FKKs you senior members suggest I look at in Berlin?The only FKK is Artemis, alternative could be going for escort but I never got great time with escorts in Berlin.
TheCanadian
01-06-19, 20:36
I understand the mediocre experiences at Artemis but not the critisism targeted to that club alone. The German law for prostitution doesn't specify the duration of the service to a punter (the law is made for the girl and not for the punter). Hence, not meeting the 30 min is just a logical consequence, E. G. 12 -15 min as reported below. Changing that in one or two years is too long first of all but also expected to be rather more strict by the legislator in the end. Indeed, the club's management may have limited reach here with some club rules or so.
I have my 2 or 3 regular girls which treat me alright and hence I return. At times, I may go for an unknown girl and see how it goes. That way my Arte visits turn out at least average and sometimes even better. On top, I visit a spectacular city with good beer, lots of history, and affordable prices for other man's amenities.
Just my 2 cents here.
There are actually two: One Blonde named Anja, she can pass for German when talking but has a Ukrainian face IMO. And, Katya with the bangs (I actually forgot about her for a second). Both sit together, both worked in GT before, both should be good service. Normally sitting on the bar in the main side and on the last two chairs before the bar curves right.Is the same Anja that has tattoos? I'm considering visiting Artemis again and I'm wondering if she is still there. Out of the several dozen women I've bought time with throughout my experiences in brothels her service was easily the best.
ExpatLover
01-07-19, 04:59
I understand the mediocre experiences at Artemis but not the critisism targeted to that club alone. The German law for prostitution doesn't specify the duration of the service to a punter (the law is made for the girl and not for the punter). Hence, not meeting the 30 min is just a logical consequence, E. G. 12 -15 min as reported below. Changing that in one or two years is too long first of all but also expected to be rather more strict by the legislator in the end. Indeed, the club's management may have limited reach here with some club rules or so.
I have my 2 or 3 regular girls which treat me alright and hence I return. At times, I may go for an unknown girl and see how it goes. That way my Arte visits turn out at least average and sometimes even better. On top, I visit a spectacular city with good beer, lots of history, and affordable prices for other man's amenities.
Just my 2 cents here.Most of the girls don t like us but like our money, after we come they are mostly willing to leave the room as soon as possible.
Is the same Anja that has tattoos? I'm considering visiting Artemis again and I'm wondering if she is still there. Out of the several dozen women I've bought time with throughout my experiences in brothels her service was easily the best.No. Two different girls. Yes, Anja is also super. Can't find many of those in Artemis.
Later, Pamela sat down talked to me, and I told her everything I wanted. She told me it would all be included for the same price with no upselling. I verified this with her 2-3 times before leaving the bar. When we got to the room, she asked me "what do you like"? I said I already told you downstairs. She said, oh for this and that, it's an extra 50 euros! But we had already agreed that everything I asked for was included when we spoke downstairs. She kept arguing with me and denying it. I went and complained to management downstairs, and even though she did lie, management sided with her and also lied and said I was already in the room with her for 10 minutes even though it was more like 2-3. Pamela is also a racist who was saying negative things about Romanians.
This place is absolute garbage and apparently they have an interest in just ripping off foreigners or anyone that they can. And management lets them do it and backs them up. I heard mixed reviews about the place before going, and there aren't many options for FKK in Berlin. But I shouldn't have gone apparently.Be glad that you were not forced to pay the bill by an aggressive security that jumps around on Tilidin, as it is regularly the case in Friedrichsdorf.
The hookers only follow the basic advice's and house rules. Ultimately, it's always the customer's fault if he gets ripped off. It was your fault! This is called prostitution, organized rip-off.
A sad sad thing, please don't support this business weekly and try it next time with a neon light-green robe. Looks even better on cameras behind the mirrors.
PinballMachine
01-12-19, 11:47
Made a visit this Thursday together with a friend. We arrived around 14:00, maybe 15 Girls around. Few punters.
First session around 16;30 with a petite Turkish girl, second session with a tall German girl with silicone, third round with a brunette from Poland with natural a cup tits.
Way more Girls around from 21:00 a Clock. My suggestion is that you do not have to go early, because the selection of Girls is way improved from 21:00. Way more selection.
18:00 dinner food was horrible. Horrible.
Vienna2017
01-12-19, 23:41
Be glad that you were not forced to pay the bill by an aggressive security that jumps around on Tilidin, as it is regularly the case in Friedrichsdorf.
The hookers only follow the basic advices and house rules. Ultimately, it's always the customer's fault if he gets ripped off. It was your fault! This is called prostitution, organized rip-off.
A sad thing, please don't support this business weekly and try it next time with a neon light-green robe. Looks even better on cameras behind the mirrors.My review of the comments in recent months informs that Artemis has the business model of ripping people off. Artemis does not seem to understand that straight-forward business practices will create more money for the sex workers and the business.
VonderJohn
01-13-19, 00:05
Made a visit this Thursday together with a friend. We arrived around 14:00, maybe 15 Girls around. Few punters.
First session around 16;30 with a petite Turkish girl, second session with a tall German girl with silicone, third round with a brunette from Poland with natural a cup tits.
Way more Girls around from 21:00 a Clock. My suggestion is that you do not have to go early, because the selection of Girls is way improved from 21:00. Way more selection.
18:00 dinner food was horrible. Horrible.Guys,
Just a quick comment about the food: The food in Artemis is provided to fuel you. To give you the energy your body needs to keep banging throughout the day. It is not done for pleasure or enjoyment. So let's have modest expectations on the variety and quality.
Nooky Ninja
01-13-19, 00:19
Made a visit this Thursday together with a friend. We arrived around 14:00, maybe 15 Girls around. Few punters. First session around 16;30 with a petite Turkish girl, second session with a tall German girl with silicone, third round with a brunette from Poland with natural a cup tits. Way more Girls around from 21:00 a Clock. My suggestion is that you do not have to go early, because the selection of Girls is way improved from 21:00. 18:00 dinner food was horrible.
You make report on public forum, say almost nothing about girls, just when to go - this is news after 10,790+ reports over 13.5 years of A being open? And food bad. Though at least we know time of first session and time you ate. Really.
If you make report, think, and please include names, what you paid for what service, how long, was it fun, would you recommend or repeat- something to help reader make good decisions? Anything else pointless.
ExpatLover
01-13-19, 05:18
You make report on public forum, say almost nothing about girls, just when to go - this is news after 10,790+ reports over 13.5 years of A being open? And food bad. Though at least we know time of first session and time you ate. Really.
If you make report, think, and please include names, what you paid for what service, how long, was it fun, would you recommend or repeat- something to help reader make good decisions? Anything else pointless.It is your opinion, just accept that we can have another one, no need to report about girls or prices this is a cas to case basis, how the girl is feeling with you, how you act with her, how is the chemistry between you, the girls are not machines and are flexible many of them prefer to be in the room with a friendly guy that to get bored by setting in the bar area, what matters the most for me at least is the ratio man to woman and the number of girls present.
BlueBudgie
01-13-19, 06:42
Guys,
Just a quick comment about the food: The food in Artemis is provided to fuel you. To give you the energy your body needs to keep banging throughout the day. It is not done for pleasure or enjoyment. So let's have modest expectations on the variety and quality.I really find the food to be not to terrible. Brunch is decent. And dinner is OK. Its at least two steps up from airline food.
Guys,
Just a quick comment about the food: The food in Artemis is provided to fuel you. To give you the energy your body needs to keep banging throughout the day. It is not done for pleasure or enjoyment. So let's have modest expectations on the variety and quality.What are you talking about? As in any club in Europe: you pay entry, in this case 80 euros for use of the wellness facilities, non alcoholic drinks and the food.
PinballMachine
01-13-19, 09:01
You make report on public forum, say almost nothing about girls, just when to go - this is news after 10,790+ reports over 13.5 years of A being open? And food bad. Though at least we know time of first session and time you ate. Really.
If you make report, think, and please include names, what you paid for what service, how long, was it fun, would you recommend or repeat- something to help reader make good decisions? Anything else pointless.Maybe pointless to you, but I think not for newbies who often ask what time should I go? Is the food good or should I take a break and go to a restaurant? How many Girls around at 16:00?
I am headed to Berlin next month. I can't go to another city. I don't need late night, can go during the day. I just read a bunch here and from what I see I think I should avoid Artemis and go somewhere that is a bit more relaxed and reasonable. What are the FKKs you senior members suggest I look at in Berlin?Although Artemis compared to other FKK clubs in western part of Germany (Golden Time, Samya, Living room) and around Frankfurt (Oase, Sharks) may be higher priced and some girls in fact deny to give honey moon service for 60 Euro in 30 minutes, I would still think you should not bother with other locations in Berlin and instead take advantage of Artemis. Artemis brings all the advantages of an FKK experience. You can choose your girl from a large collection of naked girls and just have to pick the right girl. My experience is that with a 1 HR (120 Euro) session you can find GFE services with a beautiful girl. I usually only avoid all German girls. I know that there may be some German girls around in clubs who give good service but I am just too old and can't forget the service which was given by German hookers in brothels before the era of FKK clubs. IMO FKK club revolutionized the available service and this was only possible with opening of the east european borders.
Bottom line: Go to Artemis and do not bother with other clubs in Berlin. You will end up loose more money on less attractive girls.
ExpatLover
01-13-19, 20:02
Although Artemis compared to other FKK clubs in western part of Germany (Golden Time, Samya, Living room) and around Frankfurt (Oase, Sharks) may be higher priced and some girls in fact deny to give honey moon service for 60 Euro in 30 minutes, I would still think you should not bother with other locations in Berlin and instead take advantage of Artemis. Artemis brings all the advantages of an FKK experience. You can choose your girl from a large collection of naked girls and just have to pick the right girl. My experience is that with a 1 HR (120 Euro) session you can find GFE services with a beautiful girl. I usually only avoid all German girls. I know that there may be some German girls around in clubs who give good service but I am just too old and can't forget the service which was given by German hookers in brothels before the era of FKK clubs. IMO FKK club revolutionized the available service and this was only possible with opening of the east european borders.
Bottom line: Go to Artemis and do not bother with other clubs in Berlin. You will end up loose more money on less attractive girls.Sorry but may be you have better info than I but there is no other FKK club in Berlin, next one is in Leipzig same owner as World and Manhattan, which means the HA. Artemis is a challenging place I really think it is better to try some escort but every one has is own opinion, for me a no go place despite multiple visits.
You make report on public forum, say almost nothing about girls, just when to go - this is news after 10,790+ reports over 13.5 years of A being open? And food bad. Though at least we know time of first session and time you ate. Really.
If you make report, think, and please include names, what you paid for what service, how long, was it fun, would you recommend or repeat- something to help reader make good decisions? Anything else pointless.True Nooky. Incomplete information is pointless.
Steve 9696
01-14-19, 01:00
I am headed to Berlin next month. I can't go to another city. I don't need late night, can go during the day. I just read a bunch here and from what I see I think I should avoid Artemis and go somewhere that is a bit more relaxed and reasonable. What are the FKKs you senior members suggest I look at in Berlin?I agree with toto001 here. Yes Artemis is overpriced if you compare to other cities, but you are not in those cities! It is the only serious FKK option in Berlin. The club itself is great and you can have a good time. And as I said in my reports you will find a mix. If you only do one room it's a dice roll. If you do three rooms chances are a couple will be good.
My first night (a Sunday) was pretty good. My second day (Tuesday) was a ton of fun. Just don't expect to get off with a small bill. Expectations is half the battle.
Happy second birthday Vienna. Don't feed the SataneTroll, he got a big stomach. Artemis obviously has not a big need to overpay for nice reports. Maybe you could post some of them to keep the thread balanced. (Already done).
People should sing your song, JohnVonDer. Maybe weird flavour of mine but I only went out of Artemis hungry if I forgot to eat before 2 am (attention, this is information). But in kitchen I am like a prostitute, I can only make the noodle soft. Maybe the chef CEO's here are right as always. PfuiPfui food!
Pinball, I liked your review. For me it is no problem if you prefer to keep the intimacy you did in room for yourself. Most men do so, if not all. Only the lion with the shortest dick have to roar the loudest. Don't be angry with 'Nutten Nooky', I am sure he likes to read here too. No matter which lines.
Keep going.
Although Artemis compared to other FKK clubs in western part of Germany (Golden Time, Samya, Living room) and around Frankfurt (Oase, Sharks) may be higher priced and some girls in fact deny to give honey moon service for 60 Euro in 30 minutes, I would still think you should not bother with other locations in Berlin and instead take advantage of Artemis. Artemis brings all the advantages of an FKK experience. You can choose your girl from a large collection of naked girls and just have to pick the right girl. My experience is that with a 1 HR (120 Euro) session you can find GFE services with a beautiful girl. I usually only avoid all German girls. I know that there may be some German girls around in clubs who give good service but I am just too old and can't forget the service which was given by German hookers in brothels before the era of FKK clubs. IMO FKK club revolutionized the available service and this was only possible with opening of the east european borders.
Bottom line: Go to Artemis and do not bother with other clubs in Berlin. You will end up loose more money on less attractive girls.Simply not true. 1 HR 150, many authenticated super service escorts, all included (no extras but anal). Higher experiences max at 200, but these are really amazing. Artemis is far below its golden days. However, if you do a good DD you can be ok. Artemis is for a full day experience. If all that is needed is sex, escorts in Berlin are very high level, period!
Simply not true. 1 HR 150, many authenticated super service escorts, all included (no extras but anal). Higher experiences max at 200, but these are really amazing. Artemis is far below its golden days. However, if you do a good DD you can be ok. Artemis is for a full day experience. If all that is needed is sex, escorts in Berlin are very high level, period!Never used escort in Berlin, and I am curious about using escort in Berlin, but is BBBJ is an issue? Do high end escort service agencies usually provide BBBJ included in price? Or it going to be like in FKK and escort girl will use BBBJ as upsell?
TeddyBears
01-16-19, 01:21
Visited Artemis last Sunday arrived about 5 pm. There were already many men at the club but few women at the time, decided to spend a couple of hours down at the wellness area watching some PL football, thanks for your company Tim!
After the game finished it was time for some fun, but it wasn't so easy to find someone at first so decided to check out the food which was sub standard as usual unfortunately.
First girl I went with was a girl with long blonde hair with enhanced tits she claimed to be of Turkish origin named Tilla or something like that, probably about 30 years old? Told me she has been working at Palace (Frankfurt) and Globe (Zurich) before, she was a sweet girl with a charming personality but wanted extra for GFE service. I had a good time with her but won't repeat due to lack of chemistry and a bit mechanical service.
Second girl was blonde Bulgarian petite girl Axena knew her from before, she has crazy BJ skills and is super tight as a virgin. Always recommended!
After two pops I needed some fuel so decided to go outside the club for some Thai food at restaurant Papaya at Kantstrasse, recommended if you like authentic spicy food. Went back to Artemis and took a dip in the inside pool and dried up in the sauna before heading up to that smoke filled lounge, mgmt seriously need to do something about the ventilation.
Third girl of the night was dark haired beauty Carrie from Bulgaria she is easily one of the prettiest girls at the club. Big tattoo that covers her back, with nicely done enhanced tits, she doesn't provide GFE service with me at least but I recommend her to anyone that like the looks of her. Usually stands at the entrance of the lounge.
Fourth girl was named Meggy, dark haired girl with enhanced tits about 25 years, never asked about nationality but would think Romania!? She has a bubbly personality and jokes a lot so went with her before Q&A which is always stupid, wanted to stay with her for an hour then she wanted 100 extra for BBBJ because it was two half hours! LOL Rejected of course and normally I would have left the room annoyed, but her bubbly and funny mouth made me to stay with her for 30 minutes 110 euros, sub par BBBJ which she simply not very good at, but fucked her good for the rest of the half hour she has a delightful little ****!! Will not repeat.
Lineup was decent but not impressive, would guess about 50 girls at the night shift. All girls I talked to wanted extra for BBBJ and DFK which is the norm at Artemis nowadays. Understand the girls but would think they get more repeat sessions if they wouldn't overcharge in longer sessions, little extra would be OK for the most of us but 50 is to much and some girls want 50 extra for kissing and DATY as well and that's just crazy and costa productive.
I agree with Danny227 that Artemis is for a full day experience only, because with current price level at Artemis you better go to a brothel or hire an escort if you only want to have sex one or two times in Berlin.
ExpatLover
01-16-19, 04:21
Visited Artemis last Sunday arrived about 5 pm. There were already many men at the club but few women at the time, decided to spend a couple of hours down at the wellness area watching some PL football, thanks for your company Tim!
After the game finished it was time for some fun, but it wasn't so easy to find someone at first so decided to check out the food which was sub standard as usual unfortunately.
First girl I went with was a girl with long blonde hair with enhanced tits she claimed to be of Turkish origin named Tilla or something like that, probably about 30 years old? Told me she has been working at Palace (Frankfurt) and Globe (Zurich) before, she was a sweet girl with a charming personality but wanted extra for GFE service. I had a good time with her but won't repeat due to lack of chemistry and a bit mechanical service..It confirms that it is a no go place for me, most of the girls have silicone which is a no go for me, I only session natural girls.
Never used escort in Berlin, and I am curious about using escort in Berlin, but is BBBJ is an issue? Do high end escort service agencies usually provide BBBJ included in price? Or it going to be like in FKK and escort girl will use BBBJ as upsell?Never had a problem or a discussion. We just don't talk about it. I yad cases were girls told me when I got there that standard service is 130-150 and all included would be 150-170, but didn't happen much and differences were minor, so it didn't matter. Also, better not to wait for last minute with booking. Make your search ahead of time and make an appointment.
PinballMachine
01-16-19, 12:08
….but wanted extra for GFE service. Great report.
What do you consider to be GFE?
Thanks.
TeddyBears
01-16-19, 23:52
Great report.
What do you consider to be GFE?
Thanks.For me GFE-service is when I see a girl that wants to please me with passionate kisses, enjoys DATY and likes to please me with sensitive BBBJ. Just enjoying her self as much as I am!
Never had a problem or a discussion. We just don't talk about it. I yad cases were girls told me when I got there that standard service is 130-150 and all included would be 150-170, but didn't happen much and differences were minor, so it didn't matter. Also, better not to wait for last minute with booking. Make your search ahead of time and make an appointment.I mean with all those annoying negotiations going on in many FKK now, where girls take each DFK, BBBJ and DATY as optional service adding up the total price even more than globe Zurich or escort.
I am interested in using German escort service if BBBJ is given among DATY, DFK etc of course. It would be easier this way even price is bit higher.
As one of the poster posted below, I do not mind paying bit more in FKK, but if girls begin to over up sell dividing each little service to be extra, then it make me want to seek for alternative like escort.
Once upon a time, Artemis was great club with mild upsell that I was willing to accept.
Steve 9696
01-17-19, 02:08
For me GFE-service is when I see a girl that wants to please me with passionate kisses, enjoys DATY and likes to please me with sensitive BBBJ. Just enjoying her self as much as I am!TB has hit it square on the head. Base level GFE checks all the acronym boxes (particularly DFK and BBBJ) but the real deal is around how it feels. Feels like you both want to be there and are into each other. I've had some great true GFE in Brazil, Japan, and New Zealand of all places!
Strangely actually two of my top GFE for the year were CBJ. The kissing and the sex were so passionate and heartfelt that the CBJ was just a meh whatever. Repeated with both of them.
ExpatLover
01-17-19, 02:39
I mean with all those annoying negotiations going on in many FKK now, where girls take each DFK, BBBJ and DATY as optional service adding up the total price even more than globe Zurich or escort.
I am interested in using German escort service if BBBJ is given among DATY, DFK etc of course. It would be easier this way even price is bit higher.
As one of the poster posted below, I do not mind paying bit more in FKK, but if girls begin to over up sell dividing each little service to be extra, then it make me want to seek for alternative like escort.
Once upon a time, Artemis was great club with mild upsell that I was willing to accept.In Germany most of the girls will do everything for the standard price which starts at 240 for 2 hours, also most of the agency will provide apartments for free.
Well Teddybear had a great run there. I am not sure who the Turkish girl is, but if she is born and raised in Berlin then I think I know her. And if she is, she is to be avoided.
Aksena is a gem on all accounts. No doubt about it! Carrie is rediculously hot (11/10), and a nice girl if you get her to like you, but for some reason I won't elaborate on here, doesn't like me any longer, and bad mood is caused. Which is a reason for me to avoid the club a bit more. She apparently doesn't like tons of guys and is very picky on guys too. Meggy (also Bulgarian, although claimed to be polish at palace) I believe is Meggy from Palace. You should have seen her dressed up as a bayerish beer girl for octoberfest a few years ago! That was a sight!. I used to like her a lot too and she was my favourite at palace for awhile. Hope she is equally good now, but she didn't upsell back then. She is probably 30 now, but age doesn't matter when they are that fit and keeping in shape. Then 30 year olds sometimes can be sexier than 25 year old.
Most Artemis girls are usually 2-5 years older than they claim. Not that it matters though. But that was a good run you had. If every night at Artemis was like that, I would still go back 6 times a year! Well done! The 3 last girls you had there are all top 5 girls at Artemis for the past 3-4 year at least. And well inside top 10 at least since my first visit there, if not higher.
I mean with all those annoying negotiations going on in many FKK now, where girls take each DFK, BBBJ and DATY as optional service adding up the total price even more than globe Zurich or escort.
I am interested in using German escort service if BBBJ is given among DATY, DFK etc of course. It would be easier this way even price is bit higher.
As one of the poster posted below, I do not mind paying bit more in FKK, but if girls begin to over up sell dividing each little service to be extra, then it make me want to seek for alternative like escort.
Once upon a time, Artemis was great club with mild upsell that I was willing to accept.True about Artemis. I still get sone good sessions. I don't negotiate as I know what is the right price at Artemis, so we price suddenly skyrockets, I just don't do it.
Escorts are all extras included in the price aside from anal normally. Kissing is normally subject to sympathy and not to price and girls are clear about it. Like anywhere else, you must research a bit, but escort are high level.
ExpatLover
01-17-19, 21:08
True about Artemis. I still get sone good sessions. I don't negotiate as I know what is the right price at Artemis, so we price suddenly skyrockets, I just don't do it.
Escorts are all extras included in the price aside from anal normally. Kissing is normally subject to sympathy and not to price and girls are clear about it. Like anywhere else, you must research a bit, but escort are high level.If you like Artemis it is fine it is just a cheating club probably able to compete with Palace and Manhattan.
True about Artemis. I still get sone good sessions. I don't negotiate as I know what is the right price at Artemis, so we price suddenly skyrockets, I just don't do it.
Escorts are all extras included in the price aside from anal normally. Kissing is normally subject to sympathy and not to price and girls are clear about it. Like anywhere else, you must research a bit, but escort are high level.I may give it a shot, I mean I do not expect anal or CIM is included in price, but I expect DFK and BBBJ is in price with escort service considering the price, if that is the case, escort can be more wise than some girls in Artemis who divide every single sex act like BBBJ, DFK, DATY as extra, then price would be in same range or even more than globe Zurich or even escort.
ExpatLover
01-18-19, 06:53
I may give it a shot, I mean I do not expect anal or CIM is included in price, but I expect DFK and BBBJ is in price with escort service considering the price, if that is the case, escort can be more wise than some girls in Artemis who divide every single sex act like BBBJ, DFK, DATY as extra, then price would be in same range or even more than globe Zurich or even escort.I only escort in Germany and China but never there was any extra money asked for anal or CIM.
BlueBudgie
01-23-19, 05:03
I may give it a shot, I mean I do not expect anal or CIM is included in price, but I expect DFK and BBBJ is in price with escort service considering the price, if that is the case, escort can be more wise than some girls in Artemis who divide every single sex act like BBBJ, DFK, DATY as extra, then price would be in same range or even more than globe Zurich or even escort.Keep in mind BBBJ is illegal now, so you will be hard pressed to find it inklusiv in basic service. In my experience your best bet is to run short no frills sessions with no upgrades until you find a girl you jive with good and then buy a large block of time. 2 hours say. They'll be a lot more open to DFK etc if you guys have a vibe and you've bought in for a good chunk of time. I usually run a full day 1100 to about 2 am. I can't take 5 am LOL. Anyway I usually do 5-6 sessions split mid afternoon to late evening. I leave mid evening for an nice dinner and then come back. Normally like to finish the night with a hammam. Anyway if you don't find the girl you click with you still had a hell of a day for 500 euro. Also I steer well clear of the sharks. The two girls I clicked with the best were a absolutely smoldering hot Colombian MILF, she gave me her damn real email and we emailed a bit even. I got two hours with her, all holes included LOL, and she had a great fucking attitude. Another time was a girl next door type German girl, not a shark, and it was like fucking my hot girlfriend for two hours. Avoid the sharks if you can't stand up to bossy broads in your day to day life you will not do it here either, the sharks will eat you alive. Walk right past the damn skank patrol that is invariably hanging out by the door to the bar and looks for the subdued ones. Brush the leeches off as they grab on to you.
ExpatLover
01-23-19, 06:38
I may give it a shot, I mean I do not expect anal or CIM is included in price, but I expect DFK and BBBJ is in price with escort service considering the price, if that is the case, escort can be more wise than some girls in Artemis who divide every single sex act like BBBJ, DFK, DATY as extra, then price would be in same range or even more than globe Zurich or even escort.Went with 100+ escorts in Germany, always got BBBJ, never paid any extra probably 40% proposed anal which I usually will not do with every girl, 10 girls proposed AO which I obviously refused it is a way for them to make you come again and again.
Keep in mind BBBJ is illegal now, so you will be hard pressed to find it inklusiv in basic service. In my experience your best bet is to run short no frills sessions with no upgrades until you find a girl you jive with good and then buy a large block of time. 2 hours say. They'll be a lot more open to DFK etc if you guys have a vibe and you've bought in for a good chunk of time. I usually run a full day 1100 to about 2 am. I can't take 5 am LOL. Anyway I usually do 5-6 sessions split mid afternoon to late evening. I leave mid evening for an nice dinner and then come back. Normally like to finish the night with a hammam. Anyway if you don't find the girl you click with you still had a hell of a day for 500 euro. Also I steer well clear of the sharks. The two girls I clicked with the best were a absolutely smoldering hot Colombian MILF, she gave me her damn real email and we emailed a bit even. I got two hours with her, all holes included LOL, and she had a great fucking attitude. Another time was a girl next door type German girl, not a shark, and it was like fucking my hot girlfriend for two hours. Avoid the sharks if you can't stand up to bossy broads in your day to day life you will not do it here either, the sharks will eat you alive. Walk right past the damn skank patrol that is invariably hanging out by the door to the bar and looks for the subdued ones. Brush the leeches off as they grab on to you.Yeah, I am fly in monger, so I am keeping out of Berlin for awhile now, but I would like to return to artemis because I got so many years of memories there.
I never go to Artemis before 5 pm, but yes, it is type of club you can stay all day long especially in summer.
PinballMachine
01-24-19, 15:59
Made another visit this Saturday. Good selection of Girls. I made Three sessions, and two of them were 30 min / 60 euros and still good service. Third session I extended to one hour 120 euros because of my own lack of stamina and the need of more pounding. I am one of the guys that claim there is still possibilities to get a good half hour for 60 euros, you just have to choose wisely.
As Before, the food was horrific, almost painful to shovel in because of lack of taste and texture but you need the carbohydrates and the protein.
The Music in the bar was too loud.
Who want the Music to be loud? Not the girls. Not the punters.
Nooky Ninja
01-25-19, 01:13
Made another visit this Saturday. Good selection of Girls. I made Three sessions, and two of them were 30 min / 60 euros and still good service. Names? Short description of what you mean by good service? Understand if you want privacy and to protect girl feelings, but a little description at least give idea of help to others.
Otherwise like this: Ninja went to a supermarket, bought some stuff, prices were ok, but bad music. Cannot wait for the movie.
No names, no short description of why good, no point.
In Berlin in February and hope to visit Artemis. Not a requirement, but I enjoy anal. What is the standard upsell? If I was only you for a couple sessions better to find a brothel for that experience?
In Berlin in February and hope to visit Artemis. Not a requirement, but I enjoy anal. What is the standard upsell? If I was only you for a couple sessions better to find a brothel for that experience?No problem with anal.
But they charge you another 100€.
PinballMachine
01-26-19, 10:33
Names? Short description of what you mean by good service? Understand if you want privacy and to protect girl feelings, but a little description at least give idea of help to others.
Otherwise like this: Ninja went to a supermarket, bought some stuff, prices were ok, but bad music. Cannot wait for the movie.
No names, no short description of why good, no point.Good Service: No upsell once in room, BBBJ, Not try to make me finish as quick as possible, positive attitude, can take deep pounding.
One Turkish girl, one Hungarian girl, one German girl.
Nooky Ninja
01-27-19, 07:15
Good Service: No upsell once in room, BBBJ, Not try to make me finish as quick as possible, positive attitude, can take deep pounding.One Turkish girl, one Hungarian girl, one German girl.Good to know romance is not dead, and a start.
But what are their names so others can learn and try?
PinballMachine
01-27-19, 13:50
Understand if you want privacy and to protect girl feelings, but a little description at least give idea of help to others.Yet you keep asking of names?
To be honest, I just remember one of the names, but I will not hand it out because of the obvious reason.
Nooky Ninja
01-27-19, 20:59
To be honest, I just remember one of the names, but I will not hand it out because of the obvious reason.Names help people; thousands of reports here mention names. Ninja thought, ok PinM has found some girls who still don't overcharge - that would really help others. But only if we knew names. (Ninja let you in on a secret. But don't tell anyone ANYONE else-the Artemis names of girls are not the girl's real names). Sshhh.
But at least you helped us by explaining you "extended to one hour 120 euros because of own lack of stamina and the need of more pounding". Lack of stamina = need for more pounding. Of course. Reminds of when all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail. Ninja will sleep well tonight, knowing this.
Glory days of both great girls, and fun, interesting mongers is long gone. Artemis thread is truly dead. No need to read anymore. Have fun boyz. Done. Sayonara.
TeddyBears
01-27-19, 21:16
Totally agree with Ninja, if you write report on women then you need to recall their names, if not don't bother to write a report.
Hey guys!
Prostitution is legal in Germany thus this business is driven by the traditional process Demand / Supply.
Stop complain about the prices and let's start to set our rules.
Do you imagine the prostitutes charge 40€ more for a piece of plastic.
We should take over our real role: the one who gives money is the ruler.
Those women are doing this job because of us. Without us they wouldn't do workout to have flat belly, they wouldn't pay for silicone tits.
They act like we owe them something. If you are not ready for 100€ for 30 min they look for another one who will give it to them.
Once they finish with us they pick the money and look for another prey. Therefore we have to be tougher for our financial requirements.
This new law has destabilized the game (condom mandatory; many good Prost are gone, the Newbies act like princess and select the customer) and we should not be those who lose in this game.
PinballMachine
01-28-19, 18:35
Well I still Think my reports do help some other punters, they know now that there still is possible with BBBJ within 30 minutes / 60 Euros.
They also know now that there is a good number and variety of Girls, at least for being January.
Teddy and Nooky, make own reports.
ExpatLover
01-29-19, 06:54
Hey guys!
Prostitution is legal in Germany thus this business is driven by the traditional process Demand / Supply.
Stop complain about the prices and let's start to set our rules.
Do you imagine the prostitutes charge 40 more for a piece of plastic.
We should take over our real role: the one who gives money is the ruler.
Those women are doing this job because of us. Without us they wouldn't do workout to have flat belly, they wouldn't pay for silicone tits.
They act like we owe them something. If you are not ready for 100 for 30 min they look for another one who will give it to them.
Once they finish with us they pick the money and look for another prey. Therefore we have to be tougher for our financial requirements.
This new law has destabilized the game (condom mandatory; many good Prost are gone, the Newbies act like princess and select the customer) and we should not be those who lose in this game.It is not so easy to implement, I can go every day to the club therefor to be very selective is so easy for me, what about fly in mongers, fair visitors. Most of them are like kids in a toy shop, they are willing to get sex and they will not care too much about the costs, the girls are perfectly aware about it. The Romanian girls are more or less controlling the ops in the clubs, most of them have a BF, married, child, and will not stay in Germany so there strategy is to suck as much cash possible from us by giving the less possible. When you meet German escort pro or not they are willing to make you come back, the things are very different from what is more and more often happening in the clubs. We are just buying short term illusion nothing more, and most of us are leaving the room more depressed than when entering. Every thing has is time, most of us after many years of mongering are getting less hungry for P6, so we are putting the barre so high that we can leave the clubs without any session. 10 years back I always had sessions and 50 euros were may be more than today 100 and I was very happy to pay it.
Well I still Think my reports do help some other punters, they know now that there still is possible with BBBJ within 30 minutes / 60 Euros.
They also know now that there is a good number and variety of Girls, at least for being January.
Teddy and Nooky, make own reports.People know that anyway. You are free to post what you want and how you want. However, names are important and your obvious reason are not so obvious and probably don't matter as names are mentioned by every member in every thread.
No problem with anal.
But they charge you another 100.That is a lot! Looks like some girls on Berlinintim are 10-20 additional. Not sure I have time or stamina for 4-6 girls. Maybe better beer to hire a girl online or hit a brothel.
Hi guys,
Has anybody experience with Alexandra from Romania (dark hair, slim, 25 enlarged breasts with nipples pointing up, dark tattoo on left lower arm) and her sister about 19 years old I guess, tall, slim, blond long hair, no tattoos, natural beauty.
Vienna2017
02-07-19, 17:52
Hey guys!
Prostitution is legal in Germany thus this business is driven by the traditional process Demand / Supply.
Stop complain about the prices and let's start to set our rules.
Do you imagine the prostitutes charge 40 more for a piece of plastic.
We should take over our real role: the one who gives money is the ruler.
Those women are doing this job because of us. Without us they wouldn't do workout to have flat belly, they wouldn't pay for silicone tits.
They act like we owe them something. If you are not ready for 100 for 30 min they look for another one who will give it to them.
Once they finish with us they pick the money and look for another prey. Therefore we have to be tougher for our financial requirements..Artemis has become a tourist trap. Tourists, especially those from nations with no legal prostitution, are willing to pay big money for substandard service. Since Artemis is a tourist trap, it is better not to go to Artemis. We can set our rules by going elsewhere.
Artemis has become a tourist trap. Tourists, especially those from nations with no legal prostitution, are willing to pay big money for substandard service. Since Artemis is a tourist trap, it is better not to go to Artemis. We can set our rules by going elsewhere.Has become? It was from Day 1. They are soooooooo banned LOL. Truly the FKK from Hell. Worse than Palace.
Vienna2017
02-09-19, 19:41
Has become? It was from Day 1. They are soooooooo banned LOL. Truly the FKK from Hell. Worse than Palace.I must agree with Action 22. Artemis' business model is to operate as a tourist rip-off. Since most of Artemis' customers will not be repeat customers, there is little incentive to run a decent establishment. This business model is aided by the lack of other large FKKs in Berlin. At least the Frankfurt FKKs are forced to compete against each other.
ZimmerBaby
02-10-19, 10:47
Approach the lady. Tell them you want the services x,y and z for 120/ hour. Remember eye contact, and you should sound like Nelson Mandela. Avoid trade deficit. Do not let them treat you bad. Never forget Nelson Mandela.
Approach the lady. Tell them you want the services x,y and z for 120/ hour. Remember eye contact, and you should sound like Nelson Mandela. Avoid trade deficit. Do not let them treat you bad. Never forget Nelson Mandela.Reading some of the posts immediately below, blasting Artemis as an FKK Hell-hole, where it's a struggle to find decent service for standard pricing: If your goal is to get good service for 120/ HR, maybe you should forget Mandela and remember another guy a few decades earlier who famously proclaimed: "I have a dream...".
So I decided to go have a fun day at Artemis as more than 6 months have passed since my last visit.
Arrived at 1:30 pm. It was surprisingly busy both mongers and girls, but I was told there is a Messe so lots of clients. Lineup was around 50 girls, some familiar faces already.
I was looking for the legendary Lilia (German girl from Kiel) as I missed her and I wanted to see her (she was a big part of the reason of this visit), but unfortunately she wasn't there. Has anyone seen her lately? I asked the girls they saif they haven't seen her but a naked girls in your arms will always be jealous when you ask her about another girl.
I was also considering to have 2 girls together but this didn't happen this time.
First girl: Laura. Tall blond with a pony tail, enhanced boobs, grade A toned body. She is originally from Czech Republic. Good 30 min session damage 60 Eur.
Next, Tia, a slim blond German girl with a large tattoo covering her back, cute small ass and b-cup natural boobs. She works at Sharks but recently came to explore Artemis (was her 6th day there). Good 1 h damage 120 Eur. Will repeat.
Last girl, a Moldvian red-head called Annabelle. Natural boobs, long red hair, soft white skin and no smile at all. BBBJ (was my third session, with no downtime, so wanted to have a good start). She didn't allow me to kiss her. She kind of pushed me away with her arm while I was riding missionary. Won't repeat. 30 min. Damage 100 Eur. (40 more for the BBBJ).
I had to leave at 6 pm. The place was getting even more crowded with many girls. I think the lineup may have reached 100 girls when I left. One more day spent in paradise.
Nooky Ninja
02-13-19, 11:51
So I decided to go have a fun day at Artemis as more than 6 months have passed since my last visit....One more day spent in paradise.Nice, helpful report Alpha. Simple, names, costs, experience, no crazy theories or complaining. The way it should be. Good you paid completely normal prices which should give courage to others.
ZimmerBaby
02-13-19, 20:14
Finished up my day in Arabella with a decent session. Lana 23, absolutely lovely face, big voluptuous type girl. She finished me with an oily wank.
I noticed a few of the girls slyly picking their nose and eating their snots. Carmen, Janina and someone else. I already reported about the girl in F39 picking the lump of wax out of her ear while we were fucking..
Sounds like cozy and relaxed atmosphere though.
So I decided to go have a fun day at Artemis as more than 6 months have passed since my last visit.
Arrived at 1:30 pm. It was surprisingly busy both mongers and girls, but I was told there is a Messe so lots of clients. Lineup was around 50 girls, some familiar faces already.
I was looking for the legendary Lilia (German girl from Kiel) as I missed her and I wanted to see her (she was a big part of the reason of this visit), but unfortunately she wasn't there. Has anyone seen her lately? I asked the girls they saif they haven't seen her but a naked girls in your arms will always be jealous when you ask her about another girl.
I was also considering to have 2 girls together but this didn't happen this time.
First girl: Laura. Tall blond with a pony tail, enhanced boobs, grade A toned body. She is originally from Czech Republic. Good 30 min session damage 60 Eur..Lilia is there. So how long did Annabelle take to kick you out of the room, LOL? Pretty face, fat white ass, strange voice and awful to moderately awful service is the going opinion.
PinballMachine
02-16-19, 12:13
Nice, helpful report Alpha. Simple, names, costs, experience, no crazy theories or complaining. The way it should be. Good you paid completely normal prices which should give courage to others.I agree, nice report. Now we are waiting for Nookys (good) report.
ZimmerBaby
02-17-19, 00:22
Melli or Melly is a German Blonde from Cologne, slim bit not super slim, medium height, small natural breasts and a beautiful face, great smile and quite communicative too. Tattooed on the upper right leg, other tattoos I don't remember. I saw her a few times already and she was always booked. Maybe that is due to her natural beauty. Even though she seems to be new at Artemis she has of course worked elsewhere like most of the Arte girls.
Diplomat.Any available info about this vagabonding tenderloin?
Just curious. Are all the girls at Artemis shaved? Are there any places in Berlin with girls with a Bush or at least some hair?
ZimmerBaby
02-17-19, 22:47
Just curious. Are all the girls at Artemis shaved? Are there any places in Berlin with girls with a Bush or at least some hair?No Bush at Artemis.
Asia Angel. Charlottenburg, Berlin.
https://www.berlinintim.com/hure-ting_ting-29097.html?t=WL00X&s=S1bdd
Kamsutra69
02-19-19, 22:13
What has become of good ol' Deutschland!
Mongering isn't worth the price anymore. Called Artemis to check and was told the entry fee is 80 euros. 80 bloody euros? I can have 2 young ones in Pattaya at that price. Plus I read the reports of girls charging 60 euros for half an hour. I have been to Artemis in 2015. And I don't remember the service to be anything memorable. I guess being the only FFK in Berlin, they are in their right to charge that amount. But Dusseldorf FKK's aren't different either. Nor are the Indies fun anymore. I tried a few and they were boring as hell.
Or may be I am just getting poorer & older.
PinballMachine
02-20-19, 11:31
Just curious. Are all the girls at Artemis shaved? Are there any places in Berlin with girls with a Bush or at least some hair?There are girls with pubic hair, landing strip style, but they are rare.
What has become of good ol' Deutschland!
Mongering isn't worth the price anymore. Called Artemis to check and was told the entry fee is 80 euros. 80 bloody euros? I can have 2 young ones in Pattaya at that price. Plus I read the reports of girls charging 60 euros for half an hour. I have been to Artemis in 2015. And I don't remember the service to be anything memorable. I guess being the only FFK in Berlin, they are in their right to charge that amount. But Dusseldorf FKK's aren't different either. Nor are the Indies fun anymore. I tried a few and they were boring as hell.
Or may be I am just getting poorer & older.Don't give up hope. There are some places which retain some of the fun. But one needs to avoid the places where the customers willing to pay over the official rates go, if one wants to have fun in a less unscrupulously mercenary atmosphere. I still go to GDRmany (was a mistype, but I leave it in as it is sort of appropriate) but find that my spend per trip is now only 25% of what it used to be, as I expect top quality service (DFK, DATY and so on).
Unfortunately there is now almost no reporting of club visits in this forum, apart from to a small extent Sharks and Oase, which clearly will not suit you (nor I)
Cheers.
PinballMachine
03-03-19, 08:08
Can one call the Artemis reception and ask if a particular girl is there that day? I mean do they answer that question / give out that information?
TheCanadian
03-03-19, 16:41
(...) official rates (...) GDRmany (...) top quality service (DFK, DATY and so on).Reference needed: Do you have a reference for official rates in German FKK clubs? For other / new readers, 'official rate' may refer to a menu or the like. Anyway, please provide.
Reference provided: GDRmany is indeed a suitable reference. You may Google according aspects around June 17,1953. What would you do if one freezes your compensation but expects you to work substantially harder?
Simply try it and report back! Many clubs do a great job of being polite and honest (e. G. GT, LR, Aca, Sharks). Some receptions are however less reliable (e. G. Magnum & Salome)
Can one call the Artemis reception and ask if a particular girl is there that day? I mean do they answer that question / give out that information?.
Member #4733
03-06-19, 20:22
Can one call the Artemis reception and ask if a particular girl is there that day? I mean do they answer that question / give out that information?In the old days (before the razzia some years ago) they could tell if a girl would be in that day by 20:00. I do not know about the situation now. But it seems to me all that kind of services has gone down since.
Taken from Artemis dot de / FAQ.
(At least on the day I took a look).
"When are which women there?
The female guests at FKK Artemis decide independently when they want to visit our club so there are no fixed, specific times. Artemis makes every effort, however, to ensure that enough ladies are present on any given time."
With other words, don't get on receptions nerves.
Don't call them. Just ask next time the prostitutes directly for their own business contacts to get the working schedule information first handed. Simple is that.
This has been like that for quite a while.
Earlier on (2 yrs back) they posted the girls working on their website. Somehow since they had that "Berlin police razzzia" this stopped however.
I guess for girls privacy reasons.
However: the place is always stuffed with a large selection of girls.
Taken from Artemis dot de / FAQ.
(At least on the day I took a look).
"When are which women there?
The female guests at FKK Artemis decide independently when they want to visit our club so there are no fixed, specific times. Artemis makes every effort, however, to ensure that enough ladies are present on any given time."
With other words, don't get on receptions nerves.
Don't call them. Just ask next time the prostitutes directly for their own business contacts to get the working schedule information first handed. Simple is that.
PinballMachine
03-24-19, 13:59
Did call. The receptionist did not understand what girl I meant and did not spoke good English. End of that.
Do anybody know what happened to blonde polish Klara, Moldavian Natasha, Hungarian Bella or Romanian Wendy?
I have not seen them there in the past year.
WilliamHuntley
03-25-19, 02:40
Hello.
Gigi? Colonge.
Arase? Moldova.
Dalia? Moldova.
Are these girls currently in Artemis?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Just curious. Are all the girls at Artemis shaved? Are there any places in Berlin with girls with a Bush or at least some hair?If you find anyone, please post it here. I love hairy girls! Best so far in Berlin is the lovely friendly Isabel at www.anni-porsche.de - and there are one or two other nice girls there with a bit of hair from time to time. But check who's on the rota first!
https://www.berlinintim.com/hure-isabel_hairy-47519.html?t=WL00X&s=S1c9d
Sexaddict12
03-27-19, 00:31
I was in Artemis two days ago and when I went inside, the prettiest girl with black hair slender slim, tall with natural boobs came to me and I asked her name and was Selena and she came from Bulgaria and she looked like a real model than I have not got any further and I went in the room with her, she had such a beautiful body she wanted me to lie down and started kissing and she kissed damn good with her big lips. Then started down my upper body and then gave me a blowjob that was the best in long time. She made me really good blowjob, she had such a nice tight pussy, I licked her and have also made some 69 then we started to make sex and it was the best sex because we made many positions and she was so elastic that I was feeling like doing Kamasutra. She asked me something that was so surprising for me! She wanted anal sex and I fucked her pussy and ass this was the best part. When I had sex with her I felt like I had sex with a porn star I would recommend Selena from Bulgaria to anyone.
TheGreenArrow
03-28-19, 11:13
I was in Artemis two days ago and when I went inside, the prettiest girl with black hair slender slim, tall with natural boobs came to me and I asked her name and was Selena and she came from Bulgaria and she looked like a real model than I have not got any further and I went in the room with her, she had such a beautiful body she wanted me to lie down and started kissing and she kissed damn good with her big lips. Then started down my upper body and then gave me a blowjob that was the best in long time. She made me really good blowjob, she had such a nice tight pussy, I licked her and have also made some 69 then we started to make sex and it was the best sex because we made many positions and she was so elastic that I was feeling like doing Kamasutra. She asked me something that was so surprising for me! She wanted anal sex and I fucked her pussy and ass this was the best part. When I had sex with her I felt like I had sex with a porn star I would recommend Selena from Bulgaria to anyone.Not looking so true. In you first ever post Sexaddict12 give the best review on the Artemis forum in so long time. Sexaddict12 paid 60 also only? Sexaddict12 that never write here before put this review, looks like many non sense to make Artemis more good than really.
I go there a lot of years 1-2 in a year and what is now there was never so there. To say in English it is a "rip off" 200 euro one hour, 300 euro one hour. Everything it cost, cost extra service. Touch here touch not, all these girls are like princess not working girls. What is that the blow without they want 50 euro more all the girls. Why I don't know. What is this 50 more for what? Kissing, lick, all this extra. One of the princess also said for every 30 minuten she want this extra so for every 30 minutes with 2 plus is 160.1 hour it is 320?
But Sexaddict12 he is something else from everyone, he get everything. Must be so beauty like James dean. Or he must pay 300 for this. Or maybe work in the club.
This place, it is not good place from before all years for girls, now Artemis extra must the new name. Now this place is for the working princess not for the guy coming.
Some good OK Masseur it is good and the sauna it is good. The quiet place with the television is good. The fresh towels are always there everywhere. This is the good things in the Artemis. Also, the kitchen food is good.
Did call. The receptionist did not understand what girl I meant and did not spoke good English. End of that.
Do anybody know what happened to blonde polish Klara, Moldavian Natasha, Hungarian Bella or Romanian Wendy?
I have not seen them there in the past year.Normally reception is quite cool with giving info. They can be a bit impatient at times. But try dealing with 200 horny guys every day. Overall, receptionists are good, try calling again and you might get someone else. Also, depends on what time you call. Call before 17:00 for a higher probability of patience. Also, they don't have information about girls that don't sleep in the club as in any FKK club. I have quite a drive so I ask girls directly if they are there, always better. Seldom I can call and get answers when they have them.
Nooky Ninja
03-29-19, 11:37
1. Is a girl at Artemis?
There are 2 shifts. Early shift must (should) be in by 1100. If you call at 1200 Reception should know who is there, until early evening, (25 girls or so). Some girls will stay til 0500; some may leave at 2000 so you need to ask how long they will stay, if that is important.
The evening shift girls (more 50+ girls) start arriving around 1700 but continues over several hours. But then makeup, sports workout, eating, etc. so the actual night shift not really clear until 2000. Need to wait til then to be 95% sure.
So if you call at times that are important to you and are polite, you should get answer. There is "current" list of several pages updated every day. Just remember, it does depend on how crowded front desk is when you call. Reception can get stressed if many men in que. And still a little hit and miss - girl can get sick at last minute, and leave or just stay in room etc. Also sometimes girls go out for a few hours so being there may not be being there when you need it. Fluid situation, require patience to successfully discharge fluids.
2. Sexaddict report on abfab Bulgarian.
Agree with Green Arrow; look suspicious to Ninja, like self promotion, or written by handler boyfriend / pimp. No mention of actual cost paid for "surprising (for 100 Eur?), highly wanted" anal, etc. Ninja ran out of breath reading with no periods in sentence. Seem more like snow job then blow job.
TheGreenArrow
03-29-19, 15:55
1. Is a girl at Artemis?
There are 2 shifts. Early shift must (should) be in by 1100. If you call at 1200 Reception should know who is there, until early evening, (25 girls or so). Some girls will stay til 0500; some may leave at 2000 so you need to ask how long they will stay, if that is important.
The evening shift girls (more 50+ girls) start arriving around 1700 but continues over several hours. But then makeup, sports workout, eating, etc. so the actual night shift not really clear until 2000. Need to wait til then to be 95% sure.
So if you call at times that are important to you and are polite, you should get answer. There is "current" list of several pages updated every day. Just remember, it does depend on how crowded front desk is when you call. Reception can get stressed if many men in que. And still a little hit and miss - girl can get sick at last minute, and leave or just stay in room etc. Also sometimes girls go out for a few hours so being there may not be being there when you need it. Fluid situation, require patience to successfully discharge fluids.Nooky Ninja has right. I did not make a handler boyfriend / pimp option. I forget to think about this option and this very possible.
1. Is a girl at Artemis?
There are 2 shifts. Early shift must (should) be in by 1100. If you call at 1200 Reception should know who is there, until early evening, (25 girls or so). Some girls will stay til 0500; some may leave at 2000 so you need to ask how long they will stay, if that is important.
The evening shift girls (more 50+ girls) start arriving around 1700 but continues over several hours. But then makeup, sports workout, eating, etc. so the actual night shift not really clear until 2000. Need to wait til then to be 95% sure.
So if you call at times that are important to you and are polite, you should get answer. There is "current" list of several pages updated every day. Just remember, it does depend on how crowded front desk is when you call. Reception can get stressed if many men in que. And still a little hit and miss - girl can get sick at last minute, and leave or just stay in room etc. Also sometimes girls go out for a few hours so being there may not be being there when you need it. Fluid situation, require patience to successfully discharge fluids..Must agree with Ninja. This smells strange borderline impossible. Also, anyone who had a chat with this girl can easily tell the service described in that report does not seem to match her personality.
Agree this sounds like fake. Hope that admin takes notice.
Not looking so true. In you first ever post Sexaddict12 give the best review on the Artemis forum in so long time..
PinballMachine
04-02-19, 12:36
Will be heading to Artemis early (like 12:00) on a weekday. What kind of food is served? Just "breakfast"? Is so is it good and varied?
Will be heading to Artemis early (like 12:00) on a weekday. What kind of food is served? Just "breakfast"? Is so is it good and varied?Just breakfast. Average standard, nothing special. Self service. Bring your own coffee from the main bar, avoid the coffee provided by the big suspenser in the restaurant.
Just breakfast. Average standard, nothing special. Self service. Bring your own coffee from the main bar, avoid the coffee provided by the big suspenser in the restaurant.Breakfast is good enough to eat and better than many hotels IMO. Eggs, cheese, bacon, sausages sometimes, fresh bread and.
Croissants. Some sweets. Not luxury, but just right.
DethManRulz
04-03-19, 17:10
What has become of good ol' Deutschland!
Mongering isn't worth the price anymore. Called Artemis to check and was told the entry fee is 80 euros. 80 bloody euros? I can have 2 young ones in Pattaya at that price. Plus I read the reports of girls charging 60 euros for half an hour. I have been to Artemis in 2015. And I don't remember the service to be anything memorable. I guess being the only FFK in Berlin, they are in their right to charge that amount. But Dusseldorf FKK's aren't different either. Nor are the Indies fun anymore. I tried a few and they were boring as hell.
Or may be I am just getting poorer & older.The prices were the same in 2015, FYI.
Jim Quince
04-04-19, 14:05
Will be heading to Artemis early (like 12:00) on a weekday. What kind of food is served? Just "breakfast"? Is so is it good and varied?Skip dinner, you won't serve that to a dog.
Skip dinner, you won't serve that to a dog.Your dog must eat super fancy in that case. All jokes aside, there many criticisms about Artemis, ATM, food is not one of them. Always soup or chilli, then beef and chicken dishes with potatoes and / rice plus a salad bar. Occasionally pasta. Plus that food is fresh as there are many customers everyday, so no ingredient is old. Most days the food is just right. BBQ in the summer is perfect.
Your dog must eat super fancy in that case. All jokes aside, there many criticisms about Artemis, ATM, food is not one of them. Always soup or chilli, then beef and chicken dishes with potatoes and / rice plus a salad bar. Occasionally pasta. Plus that food is fresh as there are many customers everyday, so no ingredient is old. Most days the food is just right. BBQ in the summer is perfect.I always thought that since the owner is Turkish, it would be best to just outsource the food operation and set up kebab place and salad bar in Artemis, they can even charge few euro for kebab, I would not mind paying for it if the kebab place that has been outsourced and installed to Artemis is good.
As for salad bar, one cannot go that wrong.
PinballMachine
04-09-19, 12:23
OK, was there the other day. Had breakfast around 12:00 and I would say it is like a 2-star rated hotel, slightly worse than an Ibis hotel. OK enough for me.
Dinner not OK, always rice, sometimes even mashed potatoes. Tasteless chicken in tomato sauce and peas.
I really think there always should be french fries offered. How hard can it be? Me too would happily pay extra for a good kebab or hamburger with fries. If there were a Hamburger and / or Kebab and / or pizza restaurant in the building or just next to there would be a constant flow of customers.
I have seen that the girls sometimes order pizza to the reception. Maybe that is a possibility?
Besides food, there were plenty of hot girls present.
OK, was there the other day. Had breakfast around 12:00 and I would say it is like a 2-star rated hotel, slightly worse than an Ibis hotel. OK enough for me.
Dinner not OK, always rice, sometimes even mashed potatoes. Tasteless chicken in tomato sauce and peas.
I really think there always should be french fries offered. How hard can it be? Me too would happily pay extra for a good kebab or hamburger with fries. If there were a Hamburger and / or Kebab and / or pizza restaurant in the building or just next to there would be a constant flow of customers.
I have seen that the girls sometimes order pizza to the reception. Maybe that is a possibility?
Besides food, there were plenty of hot girls present.Line up got better? If so, I may have to return to Artemis instead of going to NRW.
SoberWorld
04-10-19, 09:30
Am happy to hear she's still there. She is an amazing breed and is gorgeous. Her proportions are simply astounding and she's one of my favourites. I like visiting Artemis. Yes its a bit pricier if you think about tbe entry but the women and gorgeous and the atmosphere is always clam and soothing. I used to visit it on a weekly basis in 2017 and 2018 but work got in the way.
I plan to start again from this Saturday. Saturday noon time is the best. No big crowds. Lots of space to relax and a good ratio of women who are calm and relaxed.
Some of my favourites don't work there anymore. But Leila is still there.
I prefer spending 3 half hour sessions with her since I'm comfortable with her and so is she. No one bothers me when I sit down since they recognize me and know I prefer just a few select women.
Leila has an amazing set of knockers and is just about tight down. Makes for an awesome session. I don't try to mix it up since its all about letting her do her job as opposed to me trying to make her happy.
I will try another new one this week so will. Post about how much has changed at Artemis but don't think a lot has.
Happy mongering.
So I decided to go have a fun day at Artemis as more than 6 months have passed since my last visit.
Arrived at 1:30 pm. It was surprisingly busy both mongers and girls, but I was told there is a Messe so lots of clients. Lineup was around 50 girls, some familiar faces already.
I was looking for the legendary Lilia (German girl from Kiel) as I missed her and I wanted to see her (she was a big part of the reason of this visit), but unfortunately she wasn't there. Has anyone seen her lately? I asked the girls they saif they haven't seen her but a naked girls in your arms will always be jealous when you ask her about another girl.
I was also considering to have 2 girls together but this didn't happen this time.
First girl: Laura. Tall blond with a pony tail, enhanced boobs, grade A toned body. She is originally from Czech Republic. Good 30 min session damage 60 Eur..
PinballMachine
04-11-19, 12:28
Line up got better? If so, I may have to return to Artemis instead of going to NRW.Better than when?
For me it's good, lots of variety, all kinds of flavors, colours and sizes.
TheGreenArrow
04-11-19, 12:50
Am happy to hear she's still there. She is an amazing breed and is gorgeous. Her proportions are simply astounding and she's one of my favourites. I like visiting Artemis. Yes its a bit pricier if you think about tbe entry but the women and gorgeous and the atmosphere is always clam and soothing. I used to visit it on a weekly basis in 2017 and 2018 but work got in the way.
I plan to start again from this Saturday. Saturday noon time is the best. No big crowds. Lots of space to relax and a good ratio of women who are calm and relaxed.
Some of my favourites don't work there anymore. But Leila is still there.
I prefer spending 3 half hour sessions with her since I'm comfortable with her and so is she. No one bothers me when I sit down since they recognize me and know I prefer just a few select women..Leyla and Lilia are not same prostitutes. Layla beautiful and yes perfect proportions, the Lilia also beautiful, but no proportions there only the big beautiful tits and the beautiful smile. Ass from Layla is a nice ass, ass from Lilia not so much. Layla also had for sure better tits. And more woman she is. The face it is what you like both beautiful, for me Layla much more beauty.
Legendary, it is not legendary. Artemis legendary is Ina ro, Nina cz, Yani bul, Lulu at, Nika de. This is a little funny what people say it is legendary this days Artemis.
Lilia also beautiful, but no proportions there only the big beautiful tits and the beautiful smile. Ass from Layla is a nice ass, ass from Lilia not so much. Legendary, it is not legendary. Artemis legendary is Ina ro, Nina cz, Yani bul, Lulu at, Nika de. This is a little funny what people say it is legendary this days Artemis.Being an ass man, I would agree that Lilia doesn't have the hottest ass. But overall, she really did it for me and made me cum harder than any woman has in years and years (huge, huge loads with one spurted all over her beautiful, blue-eyed, blonde, Tuetonic mouth). If this Layla is supposed to be even better than Lilia looks and performance-wise, then all I can say is damn! In my books, Lilia is "legendary" along with Marketa who was from the Czech Republic. Will never forget those two. The kinds guys yank off over LOLOLOL!
Legendary, it is not legendary. Artemis legendary is Ina ro, Nina cz, Yani bul, Lulu at, Nika de. This is a little funny what people say it is legendary this days Artemis.Lulu? The one from Austria with big plastic tits and tattoo all over her body? If so, she is still at Artemis? I often saw her in palace till like two years ago, but then I have not seen her ever since.
TheGreenArrow
04-12-19, 08:18
Being an ass man, I would agree that Lilia doesn't have the hottest ass. But overall, she really did it for me and made me cum harder than any woman has in years and years (huge, huge loads with one spurted all over her beautiful, blue-eyed, blonde, Tuetonic mouth). If this Layla is supposed to be even better than Lilia looks and performance-wise, then all I can say is damn! In my books, Lilia is "legendary" along with Marketa who was from the Czech Republic. Will never forget those two. The kinds guys yank off over LOLOLOL!Must agree about service. Layla its more expensive I think. So when you pay her good, service it is there. I can't say I know Lilia very much to say how grande is her performance. Yes, many the people write good, so good chance to get a nice service. I must disagree about legendary. Even you look to have very good and long time experience with prostitutes, maybe you have something else for legendary in you service liste. Legendary it is Elizabeth cz in oase what give you Deepthroat and jerk the dick on the side of her chick and zunge and then eat the cum with her fingers continue to let the sperm slide on to tits and take it again in the mouth. Legendary, it is the perfect combo of looks and performance. You say Lilia it is legendary it is like you Joachim Low touching balls and smelling in middle of game on live Fernseher. Layla also not legendary. But I think both are very top in what it is in Artemis this year. This it is true. Legendary titel can't just give it away. You with all your experience must know this my friend. Happy for you load on pretty blonde woman. It is for sure a legendary load.
Being an ass man, I would agree that Lilia doesn't have the hottest ass. But overall, she really did it for me and made me cum harder than any woman has in years and years (huge, huge loads with one spurted all over her beautiful, blue-eyed, blonde, Tuetonic mouth). If this Layla is supposed to be even better than Lilia looks and performance-wise, then all I can say is damn! In my books, Lilia is "legendary" along with Marketa who was from the Czech Republic. Will never forget those two. The kinds guys yank off over LOLOLOL!We can romanticize all we want about the women we had and the women we've lost. In the here and now world, Lilia is one of your top five options in Artemis. Period. Layla is very pretty, service who knows can give us his opinion. Nice ass, fat ass, big ass, good tits bad tits, pretty face or not is the irrelevant. For the complete package, she is in the forefront at Artemis. Probably not at Globe, but we are not at Globe. Artemis, has suffered a severe deterioration of quality as of late, it is a snow ball and in that dark dark winter, that girl is a rainbow! Looks like Artemis is working to clean house, but the way will be hard and long because the mentality that guys are not there to get service but to pay money will be challenging to change. Current casting is also weak. I, myself, have not visited in a while and the break will be long as I didn't leave Artemis satisfied in a very long time.
Better than when?
For me it's good, lots of variety, all kinds of flavors, colours and sizes.Comparison to 2015, I went to Artemis frequently since 2009 to 2015, but had to change my destination of mongering to Hessen, then to NRW due to decline of line up in 2014 and 2015 ish.
You say Lilia it is legendary it is like you Joachim Low touching balls and smelling in middle of game on live Fernseher. Layla also not legendary. You with all your experience must know this my friend. Happy for you load on pretty blonde woman. It is for sure a legendary load.And you my friend surely must know that at the end of the day, what you think and believe has no bearing on what I'm going to think and believe. I'm me and you are you. It's my money and my personal experience I'm buying. Therefore, I get to call it as I see it. I do and feel how I do. You do the same.
ExpatLover
04-12-19, 19:39
We can romanticize all we want about the women we had and the women we've lost. In the here and now world, Lilia is one of your top five options in Artemis. Period. Layla is very pretty, service who knows can give us his opinion. Nice ass, fat ass, big ass, good tits bad tits, pretty face or not is the irrelevant. For the complete package, she is in the forefront at Artemis. Probably not at Globe, but we are not at Globe. Artemis, has suffered a severe deterioration of quality as of late, it is a snow ball and in that dark dark winter, that girl is a rainbow! Looks like Artemis is working to clean house, but the way will be hard and long because the mentality that guys are not there to get service but to pay money will be challenging to change. Current casting is also weak. I, myself, have not visited in a while and the break will be long as I didn't leave Artemis satisfied in a very long time.Visited 2 weeks back, LU was a disaster, I left without any session, I don't like too pro woman with sili.
And you my friend surely must know that at the end of the day, what you think and believe has no bearing on what I'm going to think and believe. I'm me and you are you. It's my money and my personal experience I'm buying. Therefore, I get to call it as I see it. I do and feel how I do. You do the same.I think there is a language barrier here. LOL. But I do think Green Arrow has a point, these days, there are no legendary girls at Artemis. Even the top performers are at the level wr have seen 2-3 years ago. Sad, but true.
TheGreenArrow
04-12-19, 22:03
And you my friend surely must know that at the end of the day, what you think and believe has no bearing on what I'm going to think and believe. I'm me and you are you. It's my money and my personal experience I'm buying. Therefore, I get to call it as I see it. I do and feel how I do. You do the same.I don't understand why so aggressive. A service is not believe not believe it is a fact. When you experience like you with 2000 things here post, I think you know what you say. This what I say a legendary load you experience. In all honesty and no aggressively. I am sorry to say opposition of you.
TheGreenArrow
04-13-19, 08:14
Lulu? The one from Austria with big plastic tits and tattoo all over her body? If so, she is still at Artemis? I often saw her in palace till like two years ago, but then I have not seen her ever since.You have right. She is in the Palace in Frankfurt. Maybe today not so good like before, but then in Artemis was granade all.
PinballMachine
04-13-19, 10:33
Comparison to 2015, I went to Artemis frequently since 2009 to 2015, but had to change my destination of mongering to Hessen, then to NRW due to decline of line up in 2014 and 2015 ish.My first visit was in 2017 so I can not compare to 2015.
Hi folks,
I'll be visiting Artemis soon and I've never been there yet, what time frame is usually the best over the weekend? Early afternoon / evening or evening / night?
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