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Member #4621
04-13-19, 10:48
Hi everyone,
I've been to a few FKKs like sharks / palace and sunshine in Mch. This will be my first time in Berlin.
Is end of June a good time to go? Good casting? I mostly lookout for blondes, anyone have any recommendations? It's more likely I will just go with the experience of the place and what I've read of, I don't mind the silicone look some times so any recommendations welcome.
Thanks in advance. Have a good weekend.
I think there is a language barrier here. LOL. But I do think Green Arrow has a point, these days, there are no legendary girls at Artemis. Even the top performers are at the level wr have seen 2-3 years ago. Sad, but true.I wasn't talking about "these days". I was with talking about those days I was with Lilia and Marketa LOL! Yes, all the Artemis tutes I have been with over the years. And to say that out of that volume just two were "legendary". That's hardly throwing the title around and just giving it out to everybody.
Delta Indigo
04-13-19, 16:54
I don't understand why so aggressive. A service is not believe not believe it is a fact. When you experience like you with 2000 things here post, I think you know what you say. This what I say a legendary load you experience. In all honesty and no aggressively. I am sorry to say opposition of you.I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.
However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes Palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the place like the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it.
I do think it would be bizarre not to acknowledge that the service level in this club has deteriorated enormously, however the service level of an individual girl is up to individual experiences, maybe her service level is still very good.
The Cane usually does usually pay for extras and maybe that is why his experiences tend to be better. I second the opinion of many that the promise of one hour rooms gets you far better service in most cases in Germany.
TheGreenArrow
04-13-19, 17:06
I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.
However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it.
I do think it would be bizarre not to acknowledge that the service level in this club has deteriorated enormously, however the service level of an individual girl is up to individual experiences, maybe her service level is still very good.
The Cane usually does usually pay for extras and maybe that is why his experiences tend to be better. I second the opinion of many that the promise of one hour rooms gets you far better service in most cases in Germany.I very agree with this. You say it better. The girl it is semantica: the service it is in the moment one of the best in Artemis for sure. It is just not legendary. For me legendary it is Michael Jordan hall of fame if I make basketball analogia. More than this I think Artemis have not legendary girls for a long time. But in general words, we agree that Artemis it is down for long time now, the girl it is good of course (I think not legendary mister the cane think yes it is legendary). It is all. Thanks all for making clarification and many respect to everyone here. Happy time in FKK and bordello and for all I wish good prostitutes for the Easter.
The Cane usually does usually pay for extras and maybe that is why his experiences tend to be better. I second the opinion of many that the promise of one hour rooms gets you far better service in most cases in Germany.I go almost exclusively for hour-long sessions with BBBJ / CIM and anal (when the girl does that). I'm very picky, and don't try to go with every single girl in the place. I will take my time and pick. Maybe only 2 max per visit. Sometimes 3. It works for me. I definitely don't think that you get more just by paying more for extras though! You have to take your time and screen for the girls who are going to "do it" for you. I've had a lot of success over the years, and would go to Artemis again.
ZimmerBaby
04-13-19, 19:01
I When I had sex with her I felt like I had sex with a porn star I would recommend Selena from Bulgaria to anyone.She is nice girl. Does not enjoy cunnilingus, but I do it for myself, not for her / them in general. Strange thing is; she starts teasing after the session, offering her sexy ass. Too late, I'm in recovery mode (since I am not 16 anymore). Some of you guys are obviously CEOs of Rectum Research, so give it a try. Will try next time. Damage 120/1 hour. CBJ. Because German laws are and have always been for the benefit of mankind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTpEoi0tzE
ExpatLover
04-13-19, 19:01
I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.
However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes Palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the place like the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it.Artemis is a nightmare for all the mongers looking for a good ratio price vs service, now if you are willing to spend a lot of euros probably you will get good service, also the girls are in average older than in the other big FKK, so also less fresh not only body wise but also in their head.
I think there are two separate things here. One is the discussion about the girl, who at least used to provide very good service and another is about the general quality of the club. The services at this club have deteriorated enormously from 2104 to now. The last time I visited this place was in late 2018, I was shocked by how awful the service levels had become. Prior to this visit, I always thought Artemis was better than most reports had described service wise.
However my last experience at Artemis made it worse than any other FKK I have ever been to service wise, this includes Palace, where I was satisfied. I have had good experiences in Oase and many at Sharks. But as far as Artemis is concerned I would avoid the place like the plague until I had read a lot of better reports about it. This is a shame, because I am really starting to like Berlin, the city is starting to look very nice with all the reconstruction of historical sites in it..+1.
Agree on everything here. Up until my last visit to Artemis in Dec. I was still giving this place the benefit of a doubt. I've sadly had to realize that there was time to take a long break from this club. IMO it deteriorated even during 2018 alone, and I could see a nog difference between my visit in Jan. Vs the one in Dec.
I wasn't talking about "these days". I was with talking about those days I was with Lilia and Marketa LOL! Yes, all the Artemis tutes I have been with over the years. And to say that out of that volume just two were "legendary". That's hardly throwing the title around and just giving it out to everybody.Nope, two girls is not throwing the title around, I agree. However, I don't think she hit the service jackpot with so many as she did with you. That said, going to other clubs, I easily find higher level of service. Don't you have similar experience?
You have right. She is in the Palace in Frankfurt. Maybe today not so good like before, but then in Artemis was granade all.She would have been classy beauty girl if she did not have all that tattoo and too big enhanced silicone tits of plastic surgeries, but that is what the FKK industry do to many girls.
First they begin by small tattoo, that spread to bigger areas of their body to eventually covering most part of their body, then do breast silicone job, then do the lip enhancement to give them duck lip, then do nose job to give more higher straighten nose, then sky is the limit for their surgeries and inking.
It is almost as if the brothel industry and FKK atmosphere is slowly polluting their body too with silicone and inks.
I hardly ever seen surgeries or inking going good and it is too bad because some girls would have been so much more beautiful when they started out without surgeries and tattoos, but hey, this formula goes same with normal out of industry girls, with in legal age are better girls look.
Nope, two girls is not throwing the title around, I agree. However, I don't think she hit the service jackpot with so many as she did with you. That said, going to other clubs, I easily find higher level of service. Don't you have similar experience?The clubs where I have consistently had the most outstanding service include Artemis, Oase, Palace, Babylon Hamburg, and Atmos. Always laugh and shake my head when mongers claim nothing but poor service at some of these clubs. That has not been my personal experience. Maybe it's the routine hour-long sessions and the extras. I don't know. On the other hand, mongers go on and on praising Sharks, but the place just doesn't work for me. Go figure!
She would have been classy beauty girl if she did not have all that tattoo and too big enhanced silicone tits of plastic surgeries, but that is what the FKK industry do to many girls.
First they begin by small tattoo, that spread to bigger areas of their body to eventually covering most part of their body, then do breast silicone job, then do the lip enhancement to give them duck lip, then do nose job to give more higher straighten nose, then sky is the limit for their surgeries and inking.
It is almost as if the brothel industry and FKK atmosphere is slowly polluting their body too with silicone and inks.
I hardly ever seen surgeries or inking going good and it is too bad because some girls would have been so much more beautiful when they started out without surgeries and tattoos, but hey, this formula goes same with normal out of industry girls, with in legal age are better girls look.Could have been a beautiful natural girl and instead she is a beautiful silicone girl.
I am not sure if she still performs at old days level.
TeddyBears
04-14-19, 18:01
To be fair, it's not hard to find good service at Artemis. But to find it at reasonable price is very hard nowadays.
Personally I don't go to Berlin only for Artemis anymore, honestly I think it's to expensive. I will be there in mid June next time, to ensure it being a good time I will try to get a few of my favorite girls to be there on those dates, using WhatsApp messages.
I much rather go to Spain for better and cheaper service, can't compare FKK experience to mongering in Spain. But the sunny weather, nicer food and the more relaxed atmosphere makes the decision easy for me.
Could have been a beautiful natural girl and instead she is a beautiful silicone girl.
I am not sure if she still performs at old days level.I went with her once and it was in 2014, she was good. She has beautiful classy small face and her figure is perfect, it is just that too big enhanced tit, the same goes for Nika too, this group make it way too big. Plus inks on all over the body.
Some guys like it, but I tend to like natural type beauty, so with my taste, it was waste of beauty as they would have been beauty without it.
However, even though I do not like tattoos at all, I sometimes like fucking girls with many tattoos like that because I do not meet girls with so many tattoos like that with social circle that I am in, so it was nice going with her once.
They are actually very good hearted girls and fair enough price with return of good service, I paid 150 euro for one hour and the service was good. She was good person, so I do miss seeing her around in club because she is faded away from main mega FKK clubs now with very limited sighting at palace now. I do imagine, she will always work in brothel industry though because with so much tattoos, it would be hard to find other jobs.
TeddyBears
04-15-19, 00:20
See that you guys were discussing legends of Artemis. If we talk about service level I think almost every guest has a different experience with a specific girl, but sure some girls have grown a reputation over the years to perform at a higher level of GFE experience. And I admit that I have had sessions with a specific girl because of her reputation. Two girls crosses my mind Nina (CZ) and Fatima (SVK) normally I wouldn't session with them because looks wise they don't appeal to me, but I must admit they were both great performers. I think they both should be considered as Legends. Marketa (CZ) who someone mentioned, took her to the room a couple of times but nothing spectacular to me.
A few other girls that have been great performers for me over the years have been Annika (DE) one of the famous 'Abdul' gang that included Lulu as well if I'm not mistaken. Bella (CUB) has always been fantastic with me. Sheenya (ROM) was super beautiful and second to none in the zimmer. Akira (Thai) big breasted asian beauty, super GFE. And two still active girls at Artemis, Samantha (BUL) and Kisha (DE, BRA) I must be honest and say that Samantha is getting a bit old for my taste, but she has always been a absolute pleasure to spend time with. Kisha is probably my all time favorite at Artemis, needless to say her service level is top class if you get to know her.
Others that can be considered as 'Legends' must be Jenna (DE) for her unique rack! Iris (ROM) has been there since at least 2009 when I was with her for the first time of many!! Sick when you think about it!
To be fair, it's not hard to find good service at Artemis. But to find it at reasonable price is very hard nowadays.
Personally I don't go to Berlin only for Artemis anymore, honestly I think it's to expensive. I will be there in mid June next time, to ensure it being a good time I will try to get a few of my favorite girls to be there on those dates, using WhatsApp messages.
I much rather go to Spain for better and cheaper service, can't compare FKK experience to mongering in Spain. But the sunny weather, nicer food and the more relaxed atmosphere makes the decision easy for me.I like Berlin as a city to visit too beside Artemis, it got historical vibe to the city that I love with plenty of things to do before heading to Artemis from late afternoon till midnight.
However, big problem with Artemis and palace is that:
1): Not just upsell, but extreme upsell.
I do not mind mild upsell in exchange for service, but in recent years girls just got more stupidly greedy that nobody who has some idea about other FKK won't take such a price tag that they now try to push on your face in German FKK. It is in same range as or sometimes even more than globe Zurich where service is sure and secure to deliver.
2): Delivery of promised serviced is not sure thing.
Even you agree on their upsell to some extent, they sometimes do not deliver the service they promised to deliver in exchanging for upsell.
Conclusion:
The business transaction has to serve both parties and in some case in Artemis and palace, it is only to the favor for girl and not client, so in some cases, it is better off to go to globe Zurich where service is secure in exchange for higher price and go to nrw where it is no upsell almost with better service till Artemis and palace girls calm down a bit with crazy deal they try to offer.
TeddyBears
04-15-19, 11:56
Mr Ho,
I totally agree with you and others. For me there are no excuses for the way most girls behave themselves at Artemis, greed is a death sin after all LOL.
Even longer sessions comes with extra nowadays, if you add the entrance fee as well you can have two hour long sessions in sunny Spain with CIM included in her services. As I wrote, for me the choice is simple.
I will come to Berlin with a gang in mid June for leisure in Berlin. I will visit Artemis once or twice if I get Kisha to be in Berlin on those dates, if not I might skip it actually.
Mr Ho,
I totally agree with you and others. For me there are no excuses for the way most girls behave themselves at Artemis, greed is a death sin after all LOL.
Even longer sessions comes with extra nowadays, if you add the entrance fee as well you can have two hour long sessions in sunny Spain with CIM included in her services. As I wrote, for me the choice is simple.
I will come to Berlin with a gang in mid June for leisure in Berlin. I will visit Artemis once or twice if I get Kisha to be in Berlin on those dates, if not I might skip it actually.I have to add and point out one thing based on my experience though.
Beside what I wrote being quite accurate observation of recent trend in FKK like palace and Artemis, the best sessions I had in all FKK are in Artemis and palace LOL.
What I wanted saying is that mild upsell is good thing that serve both interest of monger and FKK girls, but recent trend of extreme upsell is almost only serving girls only and question mongers to go else where, where water is sweeter, better and cheaper.
Berlin was perfect city for me for mongering in Germany, I enjoy the city till like 4 pm and from 5 pm ish, I go to Artemis till midnight or bit later. I hope I will return one day as my core mongering destination.
As for now, I will stick to land in Frankfurt, train to Dusseldorf, to enjoy two cities, where I can cut risks into two cities with many clubs.
TheGreenArrow
04-21-19, 17:53
I have to add and point out one thing based on my experience though.
Beside what I wrote being quite accurate observation of recent trend in FKK like palace and Artemis, the best sessions I had in all FKK are in Artemis and palace LOL.
What I wanted saying is that mild upsell is good thing that serve both interest of monger and FKK girls, but recent trend of extreme upsell is almost only serving girls only and question mongers to go else where, where water is sweeter, better and cheaper.
Berlin was perfect city for me for mongering in Germany, I enjoy the city till like 4 pm and from 5 pm ish, I go to Artemis till midnight or bit later. I hope I will return one day as my core mongering destination.
As for now, I will stick to land in Frankfurt, train to Dusseldorf, to enjoy two cities, where I can cut risks into two cities with many clubs.I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.
I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.Some girls are even banned from Artemis. It is strict on certain things, but upselling and service provided is no touch zone and girls do what they want more or less in Artemis, but there seems to be some fixed rule among girls.
PinballMachine
04-22-19, 14:05
I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.Besides from that you only will go to Artemis if business brings you to Berlin, I have to say that I do not understand what you are saying.
I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.My Artemis break didn't happen as I had to work in Berlin last week. Many girls are missing, but I am not sure if they really kick out some girls. Had one 60 euro session and it was quite amusing. She asked for a twenty euro tip if I keep her in the room over 20 minutes, I am not going to use any adjectives here as I am sure why'all can come up with many personalized / customized adjectives that will be just as good and there are just too many. A waste of money. The girl was newish I think and after that session, I have only one question: what is the point of kicking out girls if the new girls you take to work for you are a disaster? Shit in shit out doesn't work IMO.
It gets worst and worst and no one is the wiser there.
ExpatLover
04-22-19, 20:03
I was listening the boss in Artemis is sending some girls out of the club. Maybe they make improve. I think maybe they don't send out the girls what must go. Even to clean they must to know how to clean. I don't get back in there soon, only when I go Berlin to business, then I will look it out.The boss is a key member of the HA Berlin, I am not really sure you met him, many girls have a close relation to the the HA members, let us not be naive.
My Artemis break didn't happen as I had to work in Berlin last week. Many girls are missing, but I am not sure if they really kick out some girls. Had one 60 euro session and it was quite amusing. She asked for a twenty euro tip if I keep her in the room over 20 minutes, I am not going to use any adjectives here as I am sure why'all can come up with many personalized / customized adjectives that will be just as good and there are just too many. A waste of money. The girl was newish I think and after that session, I have only one question: what is the point of kicking out girls if the new girls you take to work for you are a disaster? Shit in shit out doesn't work IMO.
It gets worst and worst and no one is the wiser there.Dead right. I cannot for the life of me understand why guys go to clubs where decent service only starts at 80 or 100 per half hour when there are still clubs with lovely non-sharks around (of course in Berlin there are not other FKK options).
Traveller63
04-23-19, 18:52
Dead right. I cannot for the life of me understand why guys go to clubs where decent service only starts at 80 or 100 per half hour when there are still clubs with lovely non-sharks around (of course in Berlin there are not other FKK options).I haven't been to Artemis for some time (12 months?) so I don't have a feel for how busy the place is nowadays.
It strikes me that the FKK model is capitalism in quite a pure form. Supply and demand with no regulation of costs other than those of the market.
If numbers of punters decrease then Artemis will presumably wish to act (as far as they can) to address the issues. If the numbers of customers remain high, presumably they won't bother, its not a problem financially.
So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?
ZimmerBaby
04-24-19, 08:04
So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.
TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.
74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.
TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.I like your note. Made me giggle.
160 an hour doesn't guarantee good service anymore. It is extremely sad. Even 200 dies not guarantee good service. Of course, depends on the girls and so on, but lets assume the consensus on top girls rather than a subjective view. Even than the top Artemis girls are far off from top Hessen NRW girls. Artemis is really difficult these days.
As for numbers, while Artemis is still ATM the club with most visitors, the number of frequenters had declined and will keep declining. But let remember that most of the Artemis crowd is tourist who can't really differentiate service levels and those get kicked out of the room in 10 minutes and get 2 minutes covered BJ with another two positions sex for another 5 minutes before the girls says "you take to long, finish already and stop breathing on me. "
This trickle down economy of awareness will take more time before it is fully translated into numbers.
Traveller63
04-24-19, 15:27
74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.
TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.I am fairly certain that during my last visit I saw Zhukov, Martin Bormann and Lord Lucan, all in towelling dressing gowns, watching the football in the downstairs bar.
74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.
TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?
Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?Although I think you said this in jest you may have a valid point?
My first visit to the world of FKK was at Artemis, I loved it and returned a number of times.
However my last visit was in November 2017 and since then I have gone to Clubs in the Frankfurt (initially it was by accident) area where I found the service just as good but cheaper.
I've always wanted to return to Artemis but quite frankly the reports I've read on this and other forums have made me think twice.
Artemis was always that "bit more expensive" than other Clubs but it now appears prices have increased further with a decrease in quality services.
Just a shame I never tried Jena!
TheGreenArrow
04-24-19, 19:11
Besides from that you only will go to Artemis if business brings you to Berlin, I have to say that I do not understand what you are saying.Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.
Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?LOL, Truly a masterpiece. Well done, you should be a poet. I second the name change. Let's do it.
Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.Wolves in sheep's clothing. Well you have a lot of knowledge mister. Much obliged. I think I know this skinny one, she actually looks pretty good IMO, but you confirm my suspicions about her.
PinballMachine
04-25-19, 09:53
Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.Thanks man I understand now.
Thanks man I understand now.Very nice response Green arrow, thank you. I must say that Artemis is such a great facility, it is just hard to believe that this is the situation. Everything that is directly facility management is almost perfect. There must be a serious check on girls and not just some angry reaction that send 20 girls home. Has to a long term approach with taking the right girls because no where in Germany girls have the luxury they have in Artemis. Maybe send then to Leipzig for a weekend to appreciate what you hey have, LOL.
But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon.I met a skinny girl from Lebanon that last time I was at Artemis. I remember her well because she cracked me up! She said, "We go to the room, and I make for you the hummus"! Hahaha! Well, she really wasn't my type, and I politely declined. She took it quite well too actually. Too skinny for my tastes! And she knew it too, saying that she knew guys "like me" liked some booty, and she didn't have any LOL! Come to think of it, I also have met one other Lebanese girl at Palace years ago. A white-skinned, Christian girl. Knew she wouldn't last long in the trade! The session went a little bit over (according to her) and she wanted to charge me for another full 30 minutes. We ended up at the front desk. Her career was short-lived indeed!
ExpatLover
04-25-19, 20:58
I met a skinny girl from Lebanon that last time I was at Artemis. I remember her well because she cracked me up! She said, "We go to the room, and I make for you the hummus"! Hahaha! Well, she really wasn't my type, and I politely declined. She took it quite well too actually. Too skinny for my tastes! And she knew it too, saying that she knew guys "like me" liked some booty, and she didn't have any LOL! Come to think of it, I also have met one other Lebanese girl at Palace years ago. A white-skinned, Christian girl. Knew she wouldn't last long in the trade! The session went a little bit over (according to her) and she wanted to charge me for another full 30 minutes. We ended up at the front desk. Her career was short-lived indeed!Probably she was from France, never met any girl from Lebanon in a FKK.
My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400€. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60€ but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.
The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160€ with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110€ for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.
I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!
TheGreenArrow
04-28-19, 07:07
My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60 but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.
The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160 with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.
I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!A first time was very good when one girl ask 400 an hour and make you out in 3 minutes? Second girls 160 half hour must have kissing licking eating and all Apollo lust for. 3 it is 110 30 minutes and your first time was so very good. I am very apologize, you don't know FKK and you can't never give a what is called holistic review for FKK. For this money, you can go anywhere else and have some real beauties. Not Artemis pool of old women, silicon and tired from the life. Those women what in Artemis, put them in NRW and they must really work or to go home. Please don't it understand as attack Apollo, it is not and you are very nice person. It is only the Artemis trap for the people what don't know FKK real life. I wish you go to good FKK one day, I wish you will have a real the good time for your good money and then please you come again this posting and give us your review after new experience. I hope for my Kollege hier a perfect time with real beauties, please go even Hawaii, Living room, Aca, or GT to know what is real woman, real, service girls. Artemis it is a the funny joke on men not FKK. Yes, will be nice when the big boss there read this and make serious stop to this. Better go palace even get real women for this money not the greedy gold digging old silicon girls in there. Annabel it is the quite pretty girl not silicon old yes. Only fresh girl there. 400 euro 1 hour and it is blowjob only the hat of the cock and fuck is not to touch so the repunzel harre so she will not lose time on really shower after fuck and go direct in bar area to find new other sucker. Even now two old, porno stars sit in bar entry to welcome the manner. Ja danke for the 60 year old porno girls with all tattooed and all wrinkle face. FKK for grandmutter. I will make finish to this with only one question what it is the restaurant where you get the really street bahn station food and pay like the best restaurant in the complete world?
Nooky Ninja
04-28-19, 08:31
A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??
Said all before: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2256743&viewfull=1#post2256743.
Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas:
1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.
2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick.
3. Complain at front desk about prices. Don't need to mention names, just that this overcharging is ridiculous. If reception hears this over and over again, they will take notice and tell girls to throttle back. If you go together in small group, impact will be greater. Say pricing gotten so crazy you will not return unless situation is fixed. Management will hear this.
4. Fill out suggestion form toward front door before reception. Write same about prices.
Some quiet resistance will change things as word spreads and as management hears it. Only 5-10 guys saying this every night would be enough.
Understand this takes away from a relaxed night of fun but would take really only a few minutes. And ice breaker to meet men with similar ideas. Crazy to just tolerate these prices. Push back on predatory pussy pricing power.
My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60 but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.
The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160 with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.
I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!LOL, he had a very good time. I can stop laughing from the description vs the headline. I got a lot of tan sitting under the moonlight. Oh men, you are so funny. Maybe someone else will have some energy to explain prices vis a vis good time and service. Google synonymous for this situation are chiefly, but not limited to chump, dupe, gull, mug (chiefly British), patsy, pigeon, pushover, sap, soft touch, tool. How come there are so many of you in a world dominated by the concentration of wealth and people leaving and credit. But he had a good time, LMAO. Nice dude, truly, a masterpiece. And the star Anabella or whatever her name is strikes again. Did you ask her how much she wants for anal 800?
Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??
Said all before: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2256743&viewfull=1#post2256743.
Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas:
1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.
2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick..Ninja, my friend, but he had a good time. LMAO.
Look, you and others can pay what you want, and you must decide value. Time pressure plays big role. But, since law change (which we now know is silly and not enforced) girls take advantage. Big picture is this. Look at multiple websites in Berlin -bordello home pages, kaufmich, Berlin intim etc. And you will find well over 3000 girls working here. They charge about 140 ish for a fine hour with most extras. That is competitive market price now in Berlin. For years, Artemis prices were about this level. (To be fair, prices for girls both in and outside A in Berlin have changed little in over 15 years so with some (very) slight inflation maybe 5-10% would be reasonable).
Since new law (which has not changed prices in "outside" Berlin market at all) some Artemis girls seem to be getting away with almost double this, if you include portion of 80 Eur entrance fee. They do this because conditions inside distort market which means some ideal notion of simple supply and demand do not work. An incomplete list. Imperfect, asymmetric information; barriers to entry and exit; oligopoly, collusion, poor enforcement of contract; too many buyers chasing too few sellers; and and and (sounds like conditions for Trump company). There is story that during a Logistics Messe, crowding was so bad and girls so scarce inside that they were able to charge 200 for 30 minutes and guys were paying. Management was not happy..We should post this every day next to Apollo 400 offer from Anabelle until management decides to take action to save their club or globe / sharks / Goldentime time will decide to open another club in Berlin. I will even like it if oceans will move their club to Berlin.
NookyNinja. I hope visitors will listen to your voice of experience.
Member #4733
04-28-19, 16:48
Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??I don't think the price is the problem. Paying 100 extra for anal is a choice. Paying extra for extra service is not strange. Especially if you have a good time. Your suggestions are a bit strange. In weekends each and every night Artemis receives a hundred or more new visitors who are overwhelmed by the scene. They will eagerly pay extra. What are you going to say to them: Don't pay extra, accept mediocre service and in time the regulars will have a better time? Really? Artemis goes up and down and the story of TheGreenArrow is better than most recent posts. I have been to other places in Berlin. Just believe me: Artemis is the better option.
NookyNinja. I hope visitors will listen to your voice of experience.Nah, don't expect that. There will always be many more stupid morons in the world than smart people who really understand what's good for themselves. For validation, look at the state of so many "democratic" countries around the world.
Well put, Nooky Ninja!
This should apply to other clubs as well even if Artemis may be one of the worst at the moment.
Nah, don't expect that. There will always be many more stupid morons in the world than smart people who really understand what's good for themselves. For validation, look at the state of so many "democratic" countries around the world.Yep, not going into politics and the merits of the travelling french man, but as pertains to FKK land, I agree with you.
So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?Who is a regular per your definition?
I was in Artemis more than three times. I find the toilet without any help and I was never in room number thirteen. I don't sit at the bar claiming to be from Italy and recommend helpless mongers a / my girl. I don't punch other mongers in the back who want to take a seat on my couch. I also don't walk around and approach girls to tell them that they should immediately approach the men behind her on the couch. I don't do twelve rooms per night to keep my side business going on discreetly. I don't ask girls what they did in the room so long with the guy for only 60 Euro. I don't ask girls what this one weird customer wanted again. I don't go to a room with my niece, to pretend that she is in high demand. I don't bone one off my girlfriends after her shift in the kino to show her my love. I don't need two brothers and five cousins to overcome the fear leaving my block and going scared alone to a nightclub. I don't marry the daughter of my uncle. I don't need Artemis as a rehab because I am depressed that I found nobody who is impressed by the bling around my neck.
I didn't shot Nidal. I pay my full entry fee. I am not a regular.
But I ask myself why you didn't have read that Artemis has up to 100.000 visitors per year. The Club is open for 361 days per year, which makes an average of about 280 guests per day.
Rudloff is locked up for scamming investors. So don't care much about numbers.
If you are able to ignore all the minor side roles needed to do the presentation of the scripted spectacle right, Artemis is quite empty.
Dead right. I cannot for the life of me understand why guys go to clubs where decent service only starts at 80 or 100 per half hour when there are still clubs with lovely non-sharks around (of course in Berlin there are not other FKK options).Some mongers also wonder about why Bulgarian farmer daughters who inform themselves detailed before they move to Germoney to start living their dream -spreading legs for nice rich men, nearly like those who write here -choose to work in 30 Euro service miracle clubs. Clubs where they have to deliver the good grandpa service fifteen times per day, instead of working in a Club where they get payed double the rate for doing half of the work.
Tough choice for independent young women. The dying Pott need more support. The agency should write more stories about the heaven, the joy, the 7th world wonder a monger can experience outside of the very only Club in Germany which is nix good.
... I hope for my Kollege hier a perfect time with real beauties, please go even Hawaii, Living room, Aca, or GT to know what is real woman, real, service girls. ...Hawaii is a very nice club too. They even sponsor their own monger board with an awesome writer to generate good reviews. Not quite dumb. The best club of the world.
The free alcohol in LR may help to judge the lineup as "out of this world". You just need to keep the balance on the bar stool, then you can pop 9 times without going to the room. So beautiful. The best club of the world.
Aca, Velbert? Still open? Or Gold?
Doesn't matter. The best clubs of the world. Fair extra prices for bareback activities delivered by supermodels who don't like modelling.
GT the best club of the world. Only orderly people. The place to be for former comrades who know how to greet with their right arm. Open till late in the night. Amazing.
Thanks for the hints. I would go there every day.
Did you ask her how much she wants for anal 800?I am not Apollo12. But he wrote in his report:
She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. ...From my understanding "full service" includes anal. He declined this offer.
Hawaii is a very nice club too. They even sponsor their own monger board with an awesome writer to generate good reviews. Not quite dumb. The best club of the world.
The free alcohol in LR may help to judge the lineup as "out of this world". You just need to keep the balance on the bar stool, then you can pop 9 times without going to the room. So beautiful. The best club of the world.
Aca, Velbert? Still open? Or Gold?
Doesn't matter. The best clubs of the world. Fair extra prices for bareback activities delivered by supermodels who don't like modelling.
GT the best club of the world. Only orderly people. The place to be for former comrades who know how to greet with their right arm. Open till late in the night. Amazing.
Thanks for the hints. I would go there every day.I cannot really understand your post. These are not the best clubs in Germany, but they are definitely top for service. Hawaii, I agree less, but had some good times there.
I am not Apollo12. But he wrote in his report:
From my understanding "full service" includes anal. He declined this offer.Well, as much as I do appreciate your understanding, from your few extreme responses here, I don't really trust your view or understand your multiple incoherent rants.
I will entertain a post from you for the last time, full service by default definition, means including sex. FKK doesn't have that full service vocabulary, but it could mean all extras included, it could mean only strong GFE included with kissing licking etc. For anyone that knows Anabelle, she doesn't give strong GFE and doesn't offer all extras and services that other girls offer. Therefore, the question "what does she want 800?" It doesn't matter at this point what's her service as it becomes irrelevant.
I wish you luck. You are added to my ignore list.
Hi guys,
I haven't been to Artemis in about a year. Is it still good on a Friday / Saturday late night? Which do you recommend for amount of girls / quality? Oase, Artemis, Sharks or FKK world?
Does anyone know the drink prices in Artemis?
Thank you.
Sexaddict12
04-30-19, 14:41
One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.I know which Bulgarian girl you mean. There are actually two agressive girls from the same country. I think one is with short black hair and with a big butt and a small waist but I don't know her name. The other one I know for sure her name is Kary, Carry? One time I tried approaching her to talk and grabbed her waist and she told me to get my dirty hands out of her. I naturally apologized and was a little bit shocked by her behavior. After all I tried to talk a little with her from a bigger distance, but my desire to walk with her to the room had evaporated by her behavior.
I know which Bulgarian girl you mean. There are actually two agressive girls from the same country. I think one is with short black hair and with a big butt and a small waist but I don't know her name. The other one I know for sure her name is Kary, Carry? One time I tried approaching her to talk and grabbed her waist and she told me to get my dirty hands out of her. I naturally apologized and was a little bit shocked by her behavior. After all I tried to talk a little with her from a bigger distance, but my desire to walk with her to the room had evaporated by her behavior.Exactly right. Good to know I am not the only one to observe this behavior. Only in Artemis.
I know which Bulgarian girl you mean. There are actually two agressive girls from the same country. I think one is with short black hair and with a big butt and a small waist but I don't know her name. The other one I know for sure her name is Kary, Carry? One time I tried approaching her to talk and grabbed her waist and she told me to get my dirty hands out of her. I naturally apologized and was a little bit shocked by her behavior. After all I tried to talk a little with her from a bigger distance, but my desire to walk with her to the room had evaporated by her behavior.BTW; it is so strange that so many of us experience the same aggression and no one is doing anything about it.
Well ...
I wish you luck. You are added to my ignore list.Never say goodbye.
You know the puff life, know how it is to get ignored, being just another robe in the darkness, treated heartless. But it doesn't hurt anymore. No, it doesn't hurt anymore.
Who want you to be afraid? Who want that your memories fade? Devils in suits. Manipulate.
There's no storm to come for those who were never to blame for. It was never all your fault.
Don't shed a tear, just be a canny Danny.
Nooky Ninja
05-07-19, 21:20
Who want you to be afraid? Who want that your memories fade? Devils in suits. Manipulate. There's no storm to come for those who were never to blame for. It was never all your fault.
Ninja wonder, do they have FKK on your home planet? Do they put psilocybin in drinking water?
PdP very close to being most barking mad bonkers poster in entire ISG. Working girls should be afraid, very afraid.
LOL, Carrie surely is moody. If she had only known how lucky she is to be so popular. I suppose she gets asked so often to go to the room that at some point she stopped caring about money. But it is worrysome if other girls have started mirroring her behavior out of pride.
Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas: ...Where do I get these balls?
1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.How to chat quietly when testicles let a man's voice sound like a iron maiden? What should men do who don't like to chat with "gentlemen" who push you if just look "wrong" at them? How could I'll be sure that the other gentlemen keep the agreement? Girls call them liar, not only me. What should I do if I don't want kisses, BJ or licking during a room? Is it allowed to exchange for a massage or sleeping 30 minutes?
But I like the idea. Honestly, honestly. Maybe some of the bears who live in Artemis should talk a serious word with others in a quiet dark corner.
2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick.What is a brain? Can I stick it in a hole?
3. Complain at front desk about prices. Don't need to mention names, just that this overcharging is ridiculous. If reception hears this over and over again, they will take notice and tell girls to throttle back. If you go together in small group, impact will be greater. Say pricing gotten so crazy you will not return unless situation is fixed. Management will hear this.Complaining at the front desk is more like giving positive feedback to the brothel business consultant agency, letting them know that they advises get obeyed. Isn't it?
4. Fill out suggestion form toward front door before reception. Write same about prices.Or sing them a new song, receptionists like to get entertained.
My 57 yo granddaughter told me that people are writing 'E-males' or 'She-mails' (I didn't understand it right) since a while nowadays. So maybe mongers could send the manage man just a neatly put shemail.
If he has time he could lock the office door, light some candles, turn up Ricky Martin while reading and here he goes "un, dos, tres."
This will change everything.
Some quiet resistance will change things as word spreads and as management hears it. Only 5-10 guys saying this every night would be enough.Many companies would be happy with a complain rate of just under 5 percent.
The time is now for a nice little violence free riot with maybe 19.000 mongers marching down Kudamm to Artemis shouting something like:
"Brothers need more service! Because we deserve this!"
Be their leader.
Understand this takes away from a relaxed night of fun but would take really only a few minutes. And ice breaker to meet men with similar ideas. Crazy to just tolerate these prices. Push back on predatory pussy pricing power.Every time I approach naked men under the shower and ask them for they sexual preference's and how much they would pay, they start to insulting me. Except one. He was so handsome and tender.
But I keep Mohammed's name for myself.
Anybody should rescue the turtles who are trying to reach beach to bury rotten eggs.
Nooky Ninja
05-10-19, 11:43
Where do I get these balls?Happy if this helps save on therapy bills. But please do not forget to take your meds.
It is extremely rare to find guys who lies or bullshits about girls. And if you happen to be unlucky, finding two such guys in the same club is unheard of. At least if you talk to two guys not seemingly friends.
Happy if this helps save on therapy bills. But please do not forget to take your meds.Ni ja is very thoughtful, but some instances require Ninja warrior treatment.
Nooky Ninja
05-14-19, 07:14
Ok so enough of this personal BS distraction stuff. Time to return to roots: info about Artemis. Big news is seems A has struck deal with Nasa to lay ground work to open new facility on Moon.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/13/18622415/nasa-moon-return-first-woman-astronaut-artemis-program
Ninja big fan of Zero G fucking because of unique positions possible, such as girl can spin like top in cowgirl etc. (must keep busy during 5 day flight).
Ask for more details at Artemis reception. Maybe selling seats on missions. This is clear alternative to Virgin Galactic.
PinballMachine
05-16-19, 15:00
We are still waiting for you to report. A good detailed report with all the names of girls giving blow jobs without condoms and exactly how much you paid them etc. That is what you ask from others.
Nooky Ninja
05-16-19, 18:44
We are still waiting for you to report. A good detailed report with all the names of girls giving blow jobs without condoms and exactly how much you paid them etc. That is what you ask from others.Ninja did not ever and does not ask this of others. Only that they try to help on public forum with girl name and if experience was enjoyable or not. Name is useful, as many others have said over many years.
You are senior member, so you should know better than to ask what you asked. First this is public and with new laws it is crazy and risky to mention girls names with other than you had a good or bad time and why without going into too much detail. You may think things are so relaxed. They are not. You read other forums and you see there are raids occurring every now and then throughout DE, and Artemis still recovering. Extreme example, Ninja think guys on AO NRW forums put girls at risk with some details. Of course, ironic. But raid on Artemis showed us what can happen with no cause or warning. Other issue - girls can be extremely competitive with each other. Open discussion of prices can set this off. Girls read this, they talk about everything. So better to be more discrete here. But this does not mean not discussing prices especially if crazy expensive.
Second what girl does or does not do with guest is question of mood at the moment, history, chemistry and mutual attraction (or lack). So how girl might be with me says absolutely nothing of how she will be with others. This is truth. Unless you believe girls are cyborgs. Ninja simply say and have said many times if you are patient, not jerk, tune into girl not just yourself, great times possible for not much money. You may say this is bullshit cop out. Ninja try to explain so you understand. If you do not, nothing to be done. Good luck.
TeddyBears
05-17-19, 15:59
Not much information of girls at this forum anymore. Does anyone know if Aileen (Tur / De) from Hamburg is still working at Artemis?
PinballMachine
05-18-19, 13:46
Not much information of girls at this forum anymore. Does anyone know if Aileen (Tur / De) from Hamburg is still working at Artemis?I saw here there last week.
TeddyBears
05-19-19, 03:25
Thank you PinballMachine, I wish Aileen is working 20/6-23/6.
I saw here there last week.Do you have a better description of her? I saw one who seems to pop in for a couple days or weeks and then disappears. She is a real pro, I saw her once but I forget her name.
PinballMachine
05-19-19, 15:10
Thank you PinballMachine, I wish Aileen is working 20/6-23/6.I like her looks, but I've always had the feeling she's a real Shark. I've seen her go with "first-timers" a lot. What do you think?
Not much information of girls at this forum anymore. Does anyone know if Aileen (Tur / De) from Hamburg is still working at Artemis?The Aileen you mean has not worked for a long time and was not there last week, at least not there on the weekend.
TeddyBears
05-19-19, 22:49
I have been with Aileen 5-6 times in the past, I have always had a really great time with her. I have not been with her after the new law regarding BBBJ so I don't know if she charges more or not for this specific service.
Aileen had long black hair last time I've seen her. She has a beautiful face, big enhanced tits, fitness trained body and a very tasteful pussy!
ExpatLover
05-20-19, 07:36
I have been with Aileen 5-6 times in the past, I have always had a really great time with her. I have not been with her after the new law regarding BBBJ so I don't know if she charges more or not for this specific service.
Aileen had long black hair last time I've seen her. She has a beautiful face, big enhanced tits, fitness trained body and a very tasteful pussy!But this is a eternity, may be she is already retired and have children.
Sorry for another "is xxxx still there" post but does anyone know if Amy (lean, natural blonde from Stuttgart) is still there? Typically works earlier, I believe.
Sorry for another "is xxxx still there" post but does anyone know if Amy (lean, natural blonde from Stuttgart) is still there? Typically works earlier, I believe.She has blonde hair with blue eye? Former Goldentime Bruggen girls? All natural body with no tattoo I think?
PinballMachine
05-21-19, 12:14
I have been with Aileen 5-6 times in the past, I have always had a really great time with her. I have not been with her after the new law regarding BBBJ so I don't know if she charges more or not for this specific service.
Aileen had long black hair last time I've seen her. She has a beautiful face, big enhanced tits, fitness trained body and a very tasteful pussy!I thought Aileen was the pretty dark-blonde Turkish girl wit glasses? Very nice body, natural tits, some tattoos on legs.
She has blonde hair with blue eye? Former Goldentime Bruggen girls? All natural body with no tattoo I think?I think she has blue eyes. I don't know if about Goldentime; I've never been there and she never mentioned it that I can remember. All natural, no tattoos. Yes, kind of rare for Artemis from what I can remember last couple times I was there.
I think she has blue eyes. I don't know if about Goldentime; I've never been there and she never mentioned it that I can remember. All natural, no tattoos. Yes, kind of rare for Artemis from what I can remember last couple times I was there.If it is a same girl I had session with her before. I am going to Artemis in summer for sure and I will seek out for some of the old flame and she will be one of them, so if I see her I post it here.
It is still long time till my summer visit, but how are line up nowadays? Some German beauty around?
Has Artemis has WiFi now?
I am aware that you are not allowed to bring phone in to main bar etc. , but you are allowed at reception area and entrance where the sofa is. So has Artemis offer WIFI in those area now?
I thought Aileen was the pretty dark-blonde Turkish girl wit glasses? Very nice body, natural tits, some tattoos on legs.The Aileen he means, has black hair, often pony tail, full lips, not tall, slim, big silicone with a sweet ass. She has not worked I a very long while and rumor has it, she is unlikely to return to Artemis. But who knows.
PinballMachine
05-23-19, 09:59
The Aileen he means, has black hair, often pony tail, full lips, not tall, slim, big silicone with a sweet ass. She has not worked I a very long while and rumor has it, she is unlikely to return to Artemis. But who knows.OK. So who's the girl I thought was Aileen? Blonde one with glasses, Turkish.
TheGreenArrow
05-23-19, 20:22
OK. So who's the girl I thought was Aileen? Blonde one with glasses, Turkish.I am not sure her name is Aileen. She is fake blondish, silicone, not really a nice ass IMO, looks and walks a little bit like a duck. But Aileen has been there since 2012. Left last year and she is one of the better girls that Artemis knew, especially in these dark days.
PinballMachine
05-24-19, 15:56
I was in Artemis this summer and I want to share my bad experience. I have been in two other FKK in Germany without anything out of the ordinary. So I found a good looking turkish girl wearing glasses and in our chat I tell that this was my first time there. Huge mistake, we go into the room and after 5 minutes, I kid you not, she tells me -you have to finish, time is up. I tried to continue with another position and she told me that I don't get another position for a half an hour session, so she stopped the hole thing telling me that's it's, she had to go. I was shocked and speechless and threatened to call the manager, then she offered to finish me with a handjob, so I stayed -mistake number 2. Of course this couldn't work out cause she really ruined it so after a while I told her to stop, and went down to pay her. I wasn't going to make a scene, but after I paid her she went to the reception to cover her ass, told them that I couldn't cum and left laughing at me. That made me furious so I did call the manager, and it came down to a he said- she said situation. The manager took the girls position basically saying that if I stayed in the room for a "normal" period of time, there is nothing she can do but watch the cameras to verify the time, and that it was normal practise for girls to remind the time to customers even 5 minutes in. I knew I wasn't going to win this argument so I let it go. I did have a really good session with a spanish girl. So overall lesson learn, there is no room for nice guys or you'll be a push over.Maybe this is the Turkish girl I mean?
Maybe this is the Turkish girl I mean?I know the girl you mean, I just don't remember her name. She is not on the same level Aileen for looks or service. Aileen likes red lipstick and is very sweet looking and has a sweet voice. This Turkish is far from sweet. Ill come back at so e point with the name when I remember. It will be nice if the good Aileen decide to make a tour.
I am not sure her name is Aileen. She is fake blondish, silicone, not really a nice ass IMO, looks and walks a little bit like a duck. But Aileen has been there since 2012. Left last year and she is one of the better girls that Artemis knew, especially in these dark days.Artemis casting was good, diverse with some young German beauties and Romanian young beauties till like yeat 2015, it is after 2015 that casting at Artemis begin to go bad like too many plastic surgery old monsters and too extreme upsell that made me go to other FKK destination like nrw.
Member #4733
05-26-19, 10:30
I went to Artemis recently. I guess a lot of people her comment from past experience which is no longer valid. Artemis now is like in the old days. But there is one caveat. You have to pay 30-50 euros extra per session. I found that out recently. A few months ago I went there and stuck to not paying extra. It was a lousy day. A few weeks ago I paid extra when asked to and I had two marvellous sessions. So, it's up to you. The downside is that the name of the girl cannot be on this board when you paid extra because Artemis might send her away. I do know a lot of people around here don't want to pay extra and I don't like it either but I simply had a good day for some extra money. Take your pick.
Nooky Ninja
05-26-19, 16:07
Long time ago, Ninja went to some FKK club in Germany. Saw some girls. If anyone has seen them, please say Hi and ask when are they working?
Still think I make fun on page one? Misconception. Look up in the sky, helicopter spotlights, pimp! Stop! Polizei!
Ninja wonder, do they have FKK on your home planet?The bot is wondering and wondering and don't have eyes to see and a nose to smell excrement of Allah on the Koran.
But let me answer with aggressive and loud words of a receptionist who has to follow advises:
"What is That for a question? "
I have history here, not as much as in Sexclubs, but read this again:
Then came super sexy (at least for me) Alisha around the corner and before I could even say "no thanks, I'm just chilling", it immediately broke out of her and she roared:
"Wtf are you doing here? If you like guys in tight shorts, go there and suck their cocks". The Englishman laughed out loud, the Norwegian showed absolutely zero interest and I was quite shocked, because I didn't do anything.
And you know what, on my next visit me and Alisha had a nice time together up in di room. This is how it can be.
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I would love to be there.And then read again the response of an "Agent Nash" to my Alisha anecdote:
I had the same incident with Alisha, but the next day she gave me the best CIM ever.
Where is she now? I didn't see her for a year, she is one of the best CIM provider.Agent Nash an alien from planet Pluto who is landing on airport BER, walking on his six feets and nine arms to Artemis to shoot sperm into hooker mouths?
Raissa would say what she has to hear every day from the pimps: "YOU are the crazy one of us! ".
Do they put psilocybin in drinking water?Why and who should do this? How many tons of funny fungi's should the great unknown throw into the water of the hydroelectric power station to let everybody see pink elephants fly around? The water in my hometown Slubice is definitely not brown.
Or are you talking about liquid ecstasy? Then you have to ask posters like Optimissy who usually sign with "cheers".
But to answer a wrong question correctly.
I don't have to live on the third floor, I don't get prescriptions for sickmaking pills from a self claimed doctor who is shitting on the Hippocratic oath.
This is drug free writing here, exactly how the youth should do.
PdP very close to being most barking mad bonkers poster in entire ISG. Working girls should be afraid, very afraid.Barking? Admina let an 'Eselficker' call others a dog? No backbone.
Girls don't need a visit of mine to be afraid, a Danny from the office with his soft Piston is enough.
Girls like to believe that I am a friendly pushover, I payed always extra for slapping makeup faces. Not like Bulgarian husbands who do it for free on a daily routine, because domestic violence is standard in their culture.
Mad world, not me.
I went to Artemis recently. I guess a lot of people her comment from past experience which is no longer valid. Artemis now is like in the old days. But there is one caveat. You have to pay 30-50 euros extra per session. I found that out recently. A few months ago I went there and stuck to not paying extra. It was a lousy day. A few weeks ago I paid extra when asked to and I had two marvellous sessions. So, it's up to you. The downside is that the name of the girl cannot be on this board when you paid extra because Artemis might send her away. I do know a lot of people around here don't want to pay extra and I don't like it either but I simply had a good day for some extra money. Take your pick.If service is provided as promised and 30 min is 30 min not 15 min or 20 min, then I am willing to pay 30 to 40 euro extra per 30 min.
100 Euro per 30 min is close to Globe Zurich price range, so service should be the same if there is upsell.
Also line up should be more young and beautiful instead of old girls who has been around for years in Artemis and plastic surgery monsters full of tattoo. Older line up should be replaced with young and beautiful girls.
I am returning in summer after few years to Artemis and I hope the day I go has young and beautiful girls and not old ones with surgeries.
PinballMachine
05-27-19, 16:11
I am not sure her name is Aileen. She is fake blondish, silicone, not really a nice ass IMO, looks and walks a little bit like a duck. But Aileen has been there since 2012. Left last year and she is one of the better girls that Artemis knew, especially in these dark days.Well haha you are right, she has kind of a duck ass, but I find it sexy. Turkish girl, brown eyes, dark blonde, tattoos, always wearing glasses.
Member #4733
05-27-19, 19:04
If service is provided as promised and 30 min is 30 min not 15 min or 20 min, then I am willing to pay 30 to 40 euro extra per 30 min.
100 Euro per 30 min is close to Globe Zurich price range, so service should be the same if there is upsell.
Also line up should be more young and beautiful instead of old girls who has been around for years in Artemis and plastic surgery monsters full of tattoo. Older line up should be replaced with young and beautiful girls.
I am returning in summer after few years to Artemis and I hope the day I go has young and beautiful girls and not old ones with surgeries.Last time 30 minutes was 30 minutes, yes. But not many clubs can guarantee that. Artemis can't. But, (I picked this up from another board) management has instructed girls to provide better service. Comparing it to Globe might be a good thing to do. I only got to their doorstep and then turned away as I did not get a free ticket on my birthday as it was my first time there. But just remember that one hour with paying extra is 160 euro and in Globe that is more expensive. Getting a (good) kisser in Artemis might be a stretch. But I am curious how you like it. Please report. The Line-up for sure was good a few weeks ago. One tip. Enter the bar area, walk to the end of the bar. Turn left. At that spot there is a girl named Ginger. Ro. She doesn't take extras. She is not a very good provider (OK, but nothing special) but she is absolutely stunning. Fully naked, deep brown colour, long brown hair. She is friendly. Take her for half an hour. Her beauty is enough. I had her a few months ago. Did not repeat as the other options were so much better regarding the services provided. But 30 minutes with her are really 30 minutes. Not just with me but with all other men as well. She usually doesn't stay alone for more than 5-10 minutes. And then returns about 30 minutes later.
The Aileen he means, has black hair, often pony tail, full lips, not tall, slim, big silicone with a sweet ass. She has not worked I a very long while and rumor has it, she is unlikely to return to Artemis. But who knows.If you're talking about the German Aileen as described above with exotic Middle Eastern looks then she was there a couple of Saturday's ago on 18 May. I also bumped into Even, the Romanian with the gorgeous pointy nipples on silicon tits. Had a great reunion fuck with Even as it's been about 1.5 years since I last saw her. She says she still tours Artemis but very infrequently now.
I went into Artemis with low expectations after a long time away but came away satisfied with the line up. Aside from Aileen and Even, there were a couple of blonde hotties that I would have liked to fuck also. One was from Ukraine and went by the name Milena. Anyone tried her?
Howie.
If you're talking about the German Aileen as described above with exotic Middle Eastern looks then she was there a couple of Saturday's ago on 18 May. I also bumped into Even, the Romanian with the gorgeous pointy nipples on silicon tits. Had a great reunion fuck with Even as it's been about 1.5 years since I last saw her. She says she still tours Artemis but very infrequently now.
I went into Artemis with low expectations after a long time away but came away satisfied with the line up. Aside from Aileen and Even, there were a couple of blonde hotties that I would have liked to fuck also. One was from Ukraine and went by the name Milena. Anyone tried her?
Howie.Aileen does not have a middle eastern look, so it is not this one. Evan is very nice and is very frequently in Artemis, but if you kike her then you have a good room. Milena is not my cup of tea, assuming I understood correctly who you meant.
If the long time Aileen was there, I would know as she is very nice for me as well.
Last time 30 minutes was 30 minutes, yes. But not many clubs can guarantee that. Artemis can't. But, (I picked this up from another board) management has instructed girls to provide better service. Comparing it to Globe might be a good thing to do. I only got to their doorstep and then turned away as I did not get a free ticket on my birthday as it was my first time there. But just remember that one hour with paying extra is 160 euro and in Globe that is more expensive. Getting a (good) kisser in Artemis might be a stretch. But I am curious how you like it. Please report. The Line-up for sure was good a few weeks ago. One tip. Enter the bar area, walk to the end of the bar. Turn left. At that spot there is a girl named Ginger. Ro. She doesn't take extras. She is not a very good provider (OK, but nothing special) but she is absolutely stunning. Fully naked, deep brown colour, long brown hair. She is friendly. Take her for half an hour. Her beauty is enough. I had her a few months ago. Did not repeat as the other options were so much better regarding the services provided. But 30 minutes with her are really 30 minutes. Not just with me but with all other men as well. She usually doesn't stay alone for more than 5-10 minutes. And then returns about 30 minutes later.I began my FKK mongering in FKK Artemis back in year 2009. It was my favorite club till 2015, then I had to switch club to nrw due to Artemis declined line up and extreme upsell. It is good to hear that management did tell girls to provide better service because in 2015, it was so bad.
Now, Artemis always has been upsell club, and I do emphasize that I do not mind mild upsell if service is provided like in globe Zurich because you end up paying similar price range with upsell.
I am going back in end of summer, so I will see how the line up are and how service improved in exchange for upsell.
I know my way around in Artemis, so it will be quite exciting re visit with I guess mostly new girls to me because I have not been there for 4 years now. Well I hope I do not see old girls still remain in Artemis since my last visit LOL.
Amy is there, I saw her last week, didn't sessioned with her unfortunately.
Aileen is also there, I had a great threesome with her and Delara (DE / TUR), great session with all the goodies, recommended.
Artemis is expensive but still great fun!
Artemis now is like in the old days. That's not really possible for many reasons.
Artemis is an awesome place if you don't want any interaction with a girl and it's all about sticking your dick in a hole.
Aileen does not have a middle eastern look, so it is not this one. Evan is very nice and is very frequently in Artemis, but if you kike her then you have a good room. Milena is not my cup of tea, assuming I understood correctly who you meant.
If the long time Aileen was there, I would know as she is very nice for me as well.My bad. I normally associate Turkish with the Middle East. She is German but of Turkish descent hence that exotic look. Anyways she was definitely there two weeks ago for her fans out there.
Howie.
That's not really possible for many reasons.
Artemis is an awesome place if you don't want any interaction with a girl and it's all about sticking your dick in a hole.If upsell is too extreme, then it is wise to go for 60 euro 30 min sticking your dick in a hole hardcore then out of door session.
, a Danny from the office with his soft Piston is enough.Pistons are never soft. What do you know about engines anyway?
Member #4733
06-01-19, 15:42
That's not really possible for many reasons.Artemis is an awesome place if you don't want any interaction with a girl and it's all about sticking your dick in a hole.On all boards on all clubs mongers have been complaining about the minimal interaction with girls. Most of them want to tell us that the girls do not engage in conversation or even foreplay in the bar. That has not changed all that much since I went to Artemis for the first time in 2012. Some girls do not talk at all, some speak one or two sentences. Some talk a bit more but never more than 5 minutes, unless you repeat more often with the girl. Last time it lasted about 5 minutes with a first-timer. So, also in this respect Artemis was like in the old days. And if you really want to talk to a girl while she could go to a room with somebody else and earn money the solution is very simple: pay her for the conversation time. I never did this but I do know of an inexperienced guy who did so and had the time of his life afterwards in the room. Just be creative.
Hey,
I land in Berlin on Friday evening around 9 pm. I have a room booked for Saturday morning 7 am onwards. I wanted to save 100 euros by just leaving my luggage at Artemis and spending the night and early morning there. Does it make sense, this option?
Hey,
I land in Berlin on Friday evening around 9 pm. I have a room booked for Saturday morning 7 am onwards. I wanted to save 100 euros by just leaving my luggage at Artemis and spending the night and early morning there. Does it make sense, this option?You can leave luggage at reception at Artemis for free. And it is big club so there are places you can chill like down stairs bar by the indoor pool, there are sofas there and you tend to get less approached by girls there. If your flight is at 7 am, it does make sense to stay at club over night, the club is big enough to chill from 9 pm till early morning.
PinballMachine
06-03-19, 11:38
Hey,
I land in Berlin on Friday evening around 9 pm. I have a room booked for Saturday morning 7 am onwards. I wanted to save 100 euros by just leaving my luggage at Artemis and spending the night and early morning there. Does it make sense, this option?You are able to check in at 7 am? That's a generous hotel.
Staying at Artemis to 5 am Is not a nice way to spend the night. Busy club with loads of drunk guys.
I am planning to visit Artemis at the end of August. What are the prices for the girls and the services? All I can find is the 80 eur entrance fee.
Member #4733
06-04-19, 20:41
I am planning to visit Artemis at the end of August. What are the prices for the girls and the services? All I can find is the 80 eur entrance fee.Then you didn't look too well. But anyway, each half hour with a girl will cost you 60 euro. That is standard price and girls will stick to it. But they will only give you standard service for the standard price: CBJ and CFS. If you want more than that, you can do two things. 1. Ask her for the price for extras. 2. Ask all the girls in Artemis if they will give you extra for free. Maybe you can find one and write about her. Many guys on this forum will love you. Being realistic it is far more sensible to pay extra. Some ask 20 euro for kissing, 30 euro for BBBJ, 50 or 100 for anal. Some girls will not perform any of the extras. Especially the true beauties as they will get customers anyway. Very few will do anal. COF and all these kind of frivolous things might mean extra money. Try to make good arrangements in the bar about what she will do and for how long. You don't want to pay 20 euro for 3 small kisses. If she says it will cost extra but she says she wants to discuss details in the room, you can do that. (some girls are afraid for management kicking them out when they ask extra) But once in the room you must discuss these extras as a first thing. If you disagree then, you can still walk out with no problem. Once she blows your dick, you will have to pay. Another thing you might try is to book the girl for one hour and ask if extras are included. Sometimes they are, but often they are not. Then you might pay: 60 + 60 + 30 + 20 = 170 for one hour with kissing and BBBJ. The good ones might even ask more and ask the same 170 but not kiss you. Take your pick. A bit of an elaborate answer but well, then things are clear (er).
Then you didn't look too well. But anyway, each half hour with a girl will cost you 60 euro. That is standard price and girls will stick to it. But they will only give you standard service for the standard price: CBJ and CFS. If you want more than that, you can do two things. 1. Ask her for the price for extras. 2. Ask all the girls in Artemis if they will give you extra for free. Maybe you can find one and write about her. Many guys on this forum will love you. Being realistic it is far more sensible to pay extra. Some ask 20 euro for kissing, 30 euro for BBBJ, 50 or 100 for anal. Some girls will not perform any of the extras. Especially the true beauties as they will get customers anyway. Very few will do anal. COF and all these kind of frivolous things might mean extra money. Try to make good arrangements in the bar about what she will do and for how long. You don't want to pay 20 euro for 3 small kisses. If she says it will cost extra but she says she wants to discuss details in the room, you can do that. (some girls are afraid for management kicking them out when they ask extra) But once in the room you must discuss these extras as a first thing. If you disagree then, you can still walk out with no problem. Once she blows your dick, you will have to pay. Another thing you might try is to book the girl for one hour and ask if extras are included. Sometimes they are, but often they are not. Then you might pay: 60 + 60 + 30 + 20 = 170 for one hour with kissing and BBBJ. The good ones might even ask more and ask the same 170 but not kiss you. Take your pick. A bit of an elaborate answer but well, then things are clear (er).Thanks for taking the time to write this out. I still find with so many reports, it's really nice to have someone put it all in one place and to be clear on the entire process. I found the comment on anal especially helpful to set my expectations for a visit.
Some ask 20 euro for kissing, 30 euro for BBBJ, 50 or 100 for anal. (...) Very few will do anal. COF and all these kind of frivolous things might mean extra money.Some corrections:
1) Anal is 100 Euro. You won't get it for 50.
2) There are quite a lot of girls willing to do anal.
3) COF mean extra money for sure (probably +50 Euro).
Best, Karat.
Then you didn't look too well. But anyway, each half hour with a girl will cost you 60 euro. That is standard price and girls will stick to it. But they will only give you standard service for the standard price: CBJ and CFS. If you want more than that, you can do two things. 1. Ask her for the price for extras. 2. Ask all the girls in Artemis if they will give you extra for free. Maybe you can find one and write about her. Many guys on this forum will love you. Being realistic it is far more sensible to pay extra. Some ask 20 euro for kissing, 30 euro for BBBJ, 50 or 100 for anal. Some girls will not perform any of the extras. Especially the true beauties as they will get customers anyway. Very few will do anal. COF and all these kind of frivolous things might mean extra money. Try to make good arrangements in the bar about what she will do and for how long. You don't want to pay 20 euro for 3 small kisses. If she says it will cost extra but she says she wants to discuss details in the room, you can do that. (some girls are afraid for management kicking them out when they ask extra) But once in the room you must discuss these extras as a first thing. If you disagree then, you can still walk out with no problem. Once she blows your dick, you will have to pay. Another thing you might try is to book the girl for one hour and ask if extras are included. Sometimes they are, but often they are not. Then you might pay: 60 + 60 + 30 + 20 = 170 for one hour with kissing and BBBJ. The good ones might even ask more and ask the same 170 but not kiss you. Take your pick. A bit of an elaborate answer but well, then things are clear (er).This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot!
Looking forward to having fun there in August, also its my first time so any tips are welcome.
Is Artemis considered the place in Berlin with the best quality? Considering prices for extras would I be better off finding an escort or going to Artemis or somewhere else?
Nooky Ninja
06-06-19, 07:01
Is Artemis considered the place in Berlin with the best quality? Considering prices for extras would I be better off finding an escort or going to Artemis or somewhere else?No -"Quality" good in many places. But quality depends on chemistry and also you; your choices, your behaviour, your mood at moment. Would try all - see longer Berlin thread comment.
Sebastiane
06-06-19, 11:30
It seems like Artemis has started to improve again. I was there last in 2016 and it was full of girls with silicone and tattoos. I've always liked the atmosphere around the bar though and the outdoor jacuzzi is fantastic in warm weather so I think I'll pay it a visit soon.
Any really top beauties?
On all boards on all clubs mongers have been complaining about the minimal interaction with girls. Most of them want to tell us that the girls do not engage in conversation or even foreplay in the bar. That has not changed all that much since I went to Artemis for the first time in 2012. Some girls do not talk at all, some speak one or two sentences. Some talk a bit more but never more than 5 minutes, unless you repeat more often with the girl. Last time it lasted about 5 minutes with a first-timer. So, also in this respect Artemis was like in the old days. And if you really want to talk to a girl while she could go to a room with somebody else and earn money the solution is very simple: pay her for the conversation time. I never did this but I do know of an inexperienced guy who did so and had the time of his life afterwards in the room. Just be creative.Have done the same thing. Paid the girl for her time while talking and then had the time of my life. Sometimes it pays out (but not always).
This is part 4 (the last part) of my FKK tour (continued from Living Room, Golden Time, Dolce Vita).
This was my first time in Artemis and expectations were high. I knew I'd pay more than Frankfurt and Dusseldorf area clubs, but the was okay. It's Berlin after all.
It was easy to get to by S-Bahn, as the club is right by the train station. I arrived in the late afternoon on Thursday, and there were already quite a few girls (maybe 40-50 or more). It was a very good ratio too. The facilities were outstanding, though I did expect a more lavish food spread (see: 'World' in Geissen).
I immediately noticed two girl that would be my sessions for the night, in the main (smoking area) bar. The first was a white-blonde modelesque Latvian stunner called Mila. She had one of those "designer" bodies that never adds an ounce of fat, with long legs, high shoulders, perky be-cups, and every other advantage like thigh-gap. You name it. Her face was straight out of Bladerunner, with big icy-blue eyes and high cheekbones. She looked like so many Russian models but had the warmth of a Latvian. I knew she was rare even in FKK land, and was only working for that week (she'd be gone by Saturday). I quickly offered her "the works" for 170 Euro. An hour including DATY / DATO and COF. It was worth every cent of course, as her body just wouldn't quit, and neither did she. While the BJ was covered (it would have been 50 extra otherwise) she was still incredible at it. She rode me in CG and did all the work. When I went down on her, she came while sitting on my face with probably the least amount of physical pressure I ever had to apply to a girl's loins. She just loved sex and it was easy to see. She even loved talking about sex and trading funny sex stories during it. We did a little DATO from behind, to her incredible ass, and went at it again. It was an unbelievable session, and my only advice is. If you're in Artemis, look out for her. If she happens to be around, grab her. She will easily stand out. She smokes thin cigarettes and her whitish-blonde hair is cut in the short "helmet style".
Yet somehow, my next session was even better, with a girl that became my first-ever repeat in FKK land. She was a German beauty named Lilia, with a gorgeous face and thick, natural the-cups to dream of. She had a dancer's body with amazing skin, and just a few tattoos. She's a natural blonde and wears her hair in a tight ponytail. She hangs out in the far corner of the main bar, and is fairly shy. She also comes and goes, working just a few days at a time, but is really worth looking out for.
The combination of her face and body (tits, ass, and skin) was just too much. She's the closest thing I've seen in the mongering world to Lydia Pirelli (look her up!) and had a friendly attitude to match. I agreed to a 160 Euro session with anal, DATY and DATO, and overall GFE sex. It was insane. We did all that and more, and I asked her to talk dirty in German while finishing in her in anal-mish. She made my porn-dreams come true with great spirit and generosity. FKK club or not, it was some of the best sex I had in this life.
That's why I repeated with her when I went back again on Saturday. We did a 170 Euro 1 HR session with COF to change things up. More unreal DATY / DATO with her incredible body. Uncovered BJ to a great COF. Then we chilled and chatted in a true GFE session that I would have been happy to continue all night. She was one of a kind.
I wrapped it all up with a Moldovan hottie wearing librarian glasses called Lydia. She had curly blonde hair in a high ponytail, and one the most even tans and slender bodies in the club. She was tat-free and completely natural (perky A-be cups). She spoke five languages, and was chatty and pleasant even on the way up to the room. The best part of her body was her ass and hips. It was this perfectly round ass and womanly hips you rarely see on such an otherwise slim and narrow body. It was made for doggy-style, and when she offered anal I couldn't pass it up. We agreed on 160 euro including DATY and anal and went to town, staring with a sensational 69. Her lovely ass spread above me in that position was a sight to masturbate to alone. We went at it in various missionary poses, to get an eyeful from the mirrors. Then came the promised-land doggie with anal, including some dirty talk. It was unreal, and looked better than any porno (other than the condom of course), and ended with a long and gratifying finish. We kept chatting for another 10 minutes, as she was very friendly and in no hurry to leave the room.
It was a great capper to an 8-day run through Living Room, (horrible) Golden time, Dolce Vita, and Artemis times two. A total of 7 sessions with 6 different girls, mostly expensive upgrades with extras (which I actually prefer). I don't get to go to FKKs often, so I generally try to go for the very best experiences. This time certainly didn't disappoint.
Sebastiane
06-16-19, 18:01
This is part 4 (the last part) of my FKK tour (continued from Living Room, Golden Time, Dolce Vita).
This was my first time in Artemis and expectations were high. I knew I'd pay more than Frankfurt and Dusseldorf area clubs, but the was okay. It's Berlin after all.
It was easy to get to by S-Bahn, as the club is right by the train station. I arrived in the late afternoon on Thursday, and there were already quite a few girls (maybe 40-50 or more). It was a very good ratio too. The facilities were outstanding, though I did expect a more lavish food spread (see: 'World' in Geissen).
I immediately noticed two girl that would be my sessions for the night, in the main (smoking area) bar. The first was a white-blonde modelesque Latvian stunner called Mila. She had one of those "designer" bodies that never adds an ounce of fat, with long legs, high shoulders, perky be-cups, and every other advantage like thigh-gap. You name it. Her face was straight out of Bladerunner, with big icy-blue eyes and high cheekbones. She looked like so many Russian models but had the warmth of a Latvian..Great report! Both these girls sound amazing. Looks like Artemis is starting to improve again judging by the spate of recent positive reports.
Was the outside jacuzzi and pool open too?
This is part 4 (the last part) of my FKK tour (continued from Living Room, Golden Time, Dolce Vita).
This was my first time in Artemis and expectations were high. I knew I'd pay more than Frankfurt and Dusseldorf area clubs, but the was okay. It's Berlin after all.So it sound like Artemis I used to know is back with good stunner level beauty casting. It once became the place for older plastic surgery over tattoo girls with no young stunner in lineup.
As usual, there seems to be mild upsell, but if the service is provided, then it is worth the money and as long as 30 min is 30 min and one hour is one hour it is fine.
Thanks for the confident report man, I am looking forward to going back after all these years in late summer. I hope lineup will be good as reported then.
UnfaithfulLord
06-17-19, 09:31
Hi guys!
First time poster and first time FKK visitor.
I have read a lot about price-settings in this thread and thank you very much for all information.
I know I should negotiate services before sticking my dick in any holes but can we once and for all determine the "right" price-level for this service. And this service only. I understand that price can vary with a couple of euros, but I don't want to get ripped and I want to make sure I bring the right amount of money with me. Not much more, absolutely not less.
So here we go, I want:
30 min session.
All positions I like (standard mish, doggy, reverse CG and so on. Nothing extra ordinary).
BBBJ.
One shot.
Good bye.
Thank you in advance, I really appreciate everyone that post here and I will return my appreciation with a report back of my trip.
UL.
Yet somehow, my next session was even better, with a girl that became my first-ever repeat in FKK land. She was a German beauty named Lilia, with a gorgeous face and thick, natural the-cups to dream of. She had a dancer's body with amazing skin, and just a few tattoos. She's a natural blonde and wears her hair in a tight ponytail. She hangs out in the far corner of the main bar, and is fairly shy. She also comes and goes, working just a few days at a time, but is really worth looking out for.
The combination of her face and body (tits, ass, and skin) was just too much. She's the closest thing I've seen in the mongering world to Lydia Pirelli (look her up!) and had a friendly attitude to match. I agreed to a 160 Euro session with anal, DATY and DATO, and overall GFE sex. It was insane. We did all that and more, and I asked her to talk dirty in German while finishing in her in anal-mish. She made my porn-dreams come true with great spirit and generosity. FKK club or not, it was some of the best sex I had in this life.
That's why I repeated with her when I went back again on Saturday. We did a 170 Euro 1 HR session with COF to change things up. More unreal DATY / DATO with her incredible body. Uncovered BJ to a great COF. Then we chilled and chatted in a true GFE session that I would have been happy to continue all night. She was one of a kind.Ah yes! Lilia! One of my absolute favorites of all time! Glad you got to enjoy her! Me too! Multiple repeats LOL!
So it sound like Artemis I used to know is back with good stunner level beauty casting. It once became the place for older plastic surgery over tattoo girls with no young stunner in lineup.
As usual, there seems to be mild upsell, but if the service is provided, then it is worth the money and as long as 30 min is 30 min and one hour is one hour it is fine.
Thanks for the confident report man, I am looking forward to going back after all these years in late summer. I hope lineup will be good as reported then.Mr. Ho. I'd still temper my expectations, as there is still quite a bit of "silicone city ugly", and you have to sift through quite a few dark corners of the club. It's certainly not Frankfurt in 2013, or even Frankfurt now (But the service and length of time didn't suffer, and there are gems to be found.
Enjoy!
Great report! Both these girls sound amazing. Looks like Artemis is starting to improve again judging by the spate of recent positive reports.
Was the outside jacuzzi and pool open too?Yes, all the jaccuzis and facilities were open. I really did enjoy the downstairs indoor pool the most, for post-sauna relaxation.
I really searched around for these girls, and my instincts are pretty honed now in terms of finding diamonds in the rough. It wasn't easy, but can be done!
Member #4733
06-17-19, 22:57
So here we go, I want:
30 min session.
All positions I like (standard mish, doggy, reverse CG and so on. Nothing extra ordinary).
BBBJ.
One shot.The half hour would cost you 60 euro. The BBBJ will vary from 30 to 50 euro. But a girl is free to ask what she wants. So beware. I think a far bigger problem for you is not to become a victim of a shark. That is a girl who doesn't provide services but knows her way to get your money. I tell you that especially as you want really a lot of positions in one hour. I doubt whether a girl would like that. I advise you to go for one hour (120) and pay 50 extra. If you really only want half an hour then you could ask for 15 minutes BBBJ and 15 minutes of intimate sex. But that is only a second option.
JunkJock just wrote an awesome story. Girls change a lot in Artemis, but if you arrive in short time, you should note their names (from JunkJock's strory) and look out for them. Also Amy. De might be a good option if she is around.
If you run out of money there is two options. You can take 200 euros from the ATM near the reception in Artemis (I couldn't get more than that in December 2015). You can also leave Artemis and tell reception you will come back. They then will let you sign a list with your locker number (remember the number). Just go straight to Halensee S-bahn station (turn left on the busy road) and look for an ATM with Google maps. The closest one is around there. Upon your return to Artemis you must sign the list again and get your locker back. My debit card only lets me do one money retrieval in Germany and Austria per day. Used to be different but it changed a year ago or so. Maybe not the same for everyone.
Thank you in advance, I really appreciate everyone that post here and I will return my appreciation with a report back of my trip.
UL.Please live up to that.
TeddyBears
06-18-19, 00:06
UnfaithfulLord.
The answer for your question is €110.
You are most likely going to pay €50 extra for BBBJ if you are extremely lucky you can get away with €60.
UnfaithfulLord
06-18-19, 06:43
Many thanks for the quick and friendly responses!
Regarding 1 h sessions I would rather meet more girls when I am still there (I have 8 hours in total on me), that's why I think I would go for 30 min sess.
I am not afraid of the sharks and know how to handle them since I have been fucking around a lot in eastern Europe, mostly Prague, and I know the drill pretty well. But thanks again for the friendly heads up!
Anyhow, because I have a wife I have to plan my withdrawal money well. L think it will look like this:
€110 x 5 sess.
€80 entrance.
€70 unforeseen.
= €700.
Looking forward to get back with a report. The flight time is the weekend after this.
UL.
Nooky Ninja
06-18-19, 10:56
You are most likely going to pay 50 extra for BBBJ if you are extremely lucky you can get away with 60.Again, you guys just feeding the beast if you overpay. Paying also to chat up front is absurd. You can have all basics if you wish for 60 for 30 min. Just stand your ground, be patient and pleasant. Don't be afraid to haggle slightly, politely, or eventually to say no and walk. There are enough reasonable choices: recommend Bella (light skin, blond CUB), Sheenya (dark haired, RO) but there are others. JunkJoc prices in effect 60/30 so 1 hr 120 plus 50 anal - reasonable. YMMV, depends on chemistry, how charming you are, partly also how busy day or time is, and mood. If girl has been waiting a long time for no result, she is flexible.
All this overpaying ruining it for everyone. Must admire the girls' cunning to get away with this. If you are still attracted to sharks, your choice. But there is alternative: negotiate better or remember there are 3000 girls in Berlin working in apartment bordellos or independents who charge 120-140 for a GFE hour. Some even 5 minute walk from Artemis: see Salon Prestige at Halensee / Kurfurstendamm.
There are enough reasonable choices: recommend Bella (light skin, blond CUB), Sheenya (dark haired, RO) but there are others.I know Bella with black hair. Has she recently gone blonde? And is that better or worse for her? Nice girl for sure, although her looks was something peculiar. Sometimes she was sexy as hell, while other times it was something a little over the top about it. She usually did have a great style of lingerie though!
Member #4733
06-18-19, 19:48
At Nooky Ninja.
I have tried to not pay for extra. I missed out a lot after I saw reports here about certain girls. I have tried to find girls that will kiss me for free. On several days (from 12 am to 12 pm) I could not find even one. I have tried other options like brothels that you suggest. I found out that sometimes they are not really good at all and all I wanted was to leave. Sometimes I started longing for Artemis. The other options may have their advantages but I haven't found them. In the end I went to Artemis anyway and paid much more money then a simple visit to Artemis.
So what is wrong with having a good time and paying a bit more. Yes, I fuck less but have the same quality as a few years ago.
Mr. Ho. I'd still temper my expectations, as there is still quite a bit of "silicone city ugly", and you have to sift through quite a few dark corners of the club. It's certainly not Frankfurt in 2013, or even Frankfurt now (But the service and length of time didn't suffer, and there are gems to be found.
Enjoy!Thanks man!
Yeah, it is like this every club, you have to wait and search through and find the beautiful diamond girl in the pool full of older plastic silicone tattoo girls that we do not want.
Nooky Ninja
06-19-19, 08:10
I know Bella with black hair. Has she recently gone blonde? Nice girl for sure, although her looks was something peculiar.B always blond, busty Cuban-La Am, mid 30's quite beautiful MILF, very sweet friendly, never any BS or up-selling. You thinking of different girl.
@DioRetz: nothing "wrong": it is your choice. Just think there are plenty of affordable options both in A and outside. Can only say eg vanKampen and SexintheCiti have some spectacular alternatives. But all chemistry so impossible to predict how it will be for you. Good luck.
Many thanks for the quick and friendly responses!
Regarding 1 h sessions I would rather meet more girls when I am still there (I have 8 hours in total on me), that's why I think I would go for 30 min sess.
I am not afraid of the sharks and know how to handle them since I have been fucking around a lot in eastern Europe, mostly Prague, and I know the drill pretty well. But thanks again for the friendly heads up!
Anyhow, because I have a wife I have to plan my withdrawal money well. L think it will look like this:
110 x 5 sess.
80 entrance.
70 unforeseen.
= 700.
Looking forward to get back with a report. The flight time is the weekend after this.
UL.I will be in Artemis on Saturday evening / night on 29th. I'm from Russia. We can chat a bit inside if you want).
PinballMachine
06-19-19, 13:14
For once I have to agree with nooky. Paying extra for better service is stupid. This just means that sessions are getting more and more expensive and girls giving poor service if they do not get a tip.
Paying extra for extras is fine of course, like CIM / COF / etc. But that is another thing.
And BTW I never pay more than 30 for OWO, and neither should anyone.
B always blond, busty Cuban-La Am, mid 30's quite beautiful MILF, very sweet friendly, never any BS or up-selling. You thinking of different girl.Indeed I do. Must be 2 Bella's at Artemis. The one I know is certainly Romanian. Mid 20's now. Been there probably 4+ years. Started fairly young.
TeddyBears
06-20-19, 01:39
I totally agree with you Nooky and PBM, I simply answered what the session was likely to cost him. Lets face it if you don't 'know' the girl from before you almost certainly will be asked to pay extra for everything at Artemis nowadays!! As Nooky point out you always have the option to stand your ground and refuse to pay for imaginary extras such as BBBJ, DATY, Kissing etc. And IMO you should, but I also understand if you see your 'dream girl' and don't care if you pay €50 extra for her company.
Myself are lucky enough to 'know' many girls at Artemis for years back and have a good relation with most of them, and don't have to pay these crazy rates. Problem is when you want to be with a new girl, in the last few visits I have made at Artemis I haven't been able to find girls who doesn't want extras for more or less everything apart from Jordan (Ger) don't know if she is still working at the club? Maybe I am not as good as Nooky finding the odd one. Think we can agree that Artemis is a frustrating place, to start a session with haggling about money have never ended happy for me.
I stopped going to Artemis winter 2014. After that I have made my sex holidays to Dusseldorf and Frankfurt areas instead.
Is Artemis still good? Berlin is a nice city, but girls are the most important thing to me when I travel abroad.
Nooky Ninja
06-20-19, 13:03
Is Artemis that bad?
I stopped going to Artemis winter 2014. After that I have made my sex holidays to Dusseldorf and Frankfurt areas instead. Is Artemis still good? So you ask is it that bad, and is it still good? That may sum it up.
Ninja hope this will not set off the usual whining and comparing to all the "great" service in NRW or Hessen etc. Artemis is what it is and has its good and bad points. If you find some chemistry with a girl, it can be great; if not, it can suck. Have left after cheap, multiple great sessions and have also left un-gepopped. Ninja have same experiences everywhere - Palace, Golden Time, Mainhattan, Oase, Sharks, World, Olympic Stadium, Koeln Hauptbahnhof, DM drugstore, Commerzbank, Reichelt supermarkt. Is Artemis as good as say 2009-2015. No. All FKKs have suffered a bit. Whole scene just more tense since registration required and the legal changes give opportunities for silly prices, if you fall for it.
Really all FKKs are not so different; Girls come and go. On a particular day, it is up to you what you make of it. And honestly, there is a fair bit of luck involved. Many pieces on the board, moving around in unpredictable ways.
Apart from culture of Berlin as a city, numerous private bordellos in Berlin still better value on pure sex level. But you can't hang there all day, eat, drink, swim, take jacuzzi and sauna, and marvel or not at the scene. Place is still busy all weekends, and not filled (completely) with millionaires, so it is doing something right.
Artemis is what it is-mega brothel based on throughput and multiple pops. It has a different vibe Sun-Wed vs Thurs-Sat, and summer vs rest of year, like most FKKs. It can be nevertheless great. It can also suck. Depends on how things go down, with you when you are there. Just need to keep level head, keep expectations modest, take it slow, negotiate to get reasonable session.
, Commerzbank, Really? I never left Commerzbank without a proper fuck! Too bad it was always me getting it!
I stopped going to Artemis winter 2014. After that I have made my sex holidays to Dusseldorf and Frankfurt areas instead.
Is Artemis still good? Berlin is a nice city, but girls are the most important thing to me when I travel abroad.Same with me, I stop going in 2015 due to decline in young beautiful girls in Artemis. I also changed to Hessen and nrw region clubs.
Artemis became club for mostly older plastic surgery tattoo girls club with extreme upsell was the reason why I stopped going to Artemis in 2015.
I cannot say for recent lineup since I have not been there since 2015, but report here looks quite good and I hope management managed to put in few younger beautiful girls in line up by now.
I am going there in late summer, so I hope line up will be good like it used to be in early 2010's.
Nobody want old plastic tattooed up girls.
PinballMachine
06-22-19, 08:13
Nobody want old plastic tattooed up girls.Some guys do want them, because these girls are almost always there.
And, actually almost every young and beautiful girl also have some tattoos, in Artemis as in the ordinary society. I don't like it but there is nothing I can do about it, just have to accept it and fuck them anyway.
PinballMachine
06-22-19, 16:55
Anybody seen Turkish Elnara lately? Met her in March. Miss her.
Rather tall 170, brunette, Big brown eyes, tattoos on on right leg but no more. 26 years.
Ah yes! Lilia! One of my absolute favorites of all time! Glad you got to enjoy her! Me too! Multiple repeats LOL!That's awesome that you got her multiple times! I swear that 50 years from now when my memory is fuzzy, I may think she'd been a girlfriend of mine rather than an FKK girl.
TeddyBears
06-24-19, 22:39
Had a few days in Berlin with eight friends over the weekend. We had two visits at Artemis (Thursday & Saturday) I myself has been here on more visits than I can count almost, and a few of them have been at Artemis before. None of us could find a girl who gave BBBJ without extra!! Well if you knew the girl from before, yes then it's not a problem. But with all girls you don't know, they simply refuse without extra payment.
Lara a German girl said she had trouble taking my friends penis in her pussy, or shall I say refused it because it hurt her. Ok if it's not possible, but after that tried to make him buy anal and BBBJ! If her pussy hurts then I guess it would be almost impossible to fit it in her pussy?! My friend is a newbie but I would have taken her to reception, probably will still be forced to pay her €60 but at least management know about her sub standard service. Greedy little that one.
Lineup were not very good to be honest, I usually visit Sunday to Tuesday and IMO the lineup use to be good on those days in the past at least. There were not more women these days but on Saturday around midnight there must have been over 300 men present. Seen maximum 15 girls in the main lounge (my god so much smoke) and more than 150 men in there, and about 15 more men standing by the stair. Full of men downstairs and at the outside area as well. It became better by 2 am but I don't think I will ever visit on a Saturday night again. It was ridiculous with a ratio that bad, and with hardly any stunners at all. I would even say that dayshift had more options than nightshift this weekend. Outside area is a big plus at Artemis when it's hot outside.
Conclusion is if BBBJ is important as it is for me then 1 hour at Artemis is €170 with all of the attractive women. I have said it before and I say it again. I will not go to Berlin anymore just for Artemis, I much rather visit Spain where you have all services included for less money, with IMO more beautiful women. (I prefer Latinas over white women).
Had a few days in Berlin with eight friends over the weekend. We had two visits at Artemis (Thursday & Saturday) I myself has been here on more visits than I can count almost, and a few of them have been at Artemis before. None of us could find a girl who gave BBBJ without extra!! Well if you knew the girl from before, yes then it's not a problem. But with all girls you don't know, they simply refuse without extra payment.
Lara a German girl said she had trouble taking my friends penis in her pussy, or shall I say refused it because it hurt her. Ok if it's not possible, but after that tried to make him buy anal and BBBJ! If her pussy hurts then I guess it would be almost impossible to fit it in her pussy?! My friend is a newbie but I would have taken her to reception, probably will still be forced to pay her 60 but at least management know about her sub standard service. Greedy little that one.
Lineup were not very good to be honest, I usually visit Sunday to Tuesday and IMO the lineup use to be good on those days in the past at least. There were not more women these days but on Saturday around midnight there must have been over 300 men present. Seen maximum 15 girls in the main lounge (my god so much smoke) and more than 150 men in there, and about 15 more men standing by the stair. Full of men downstairs and at the outside area as well..I don't think management really cares. They still make money from the 300 men at midnight. Artemis is over.
TheGreenArrow
06-25-19, 06:36
Had a few days in Berlin with eight friends over the weekend. We had two visits at Artemis (Thursday & Saturday) I myself has been here on more visits than I can count almost, and a few of them have been at Artemis before. None of us could find a girl who gave BBBJ without extra!! Well if you knew the girl from before, yes then it's not a problem. But with all girls you don't know, they simply refuse without extra payment.
Lara a German girl said she had trouble taking my friends penis in her pussy, or shall I say refused it because it hurt her. Ok if it's not possible, but after that tried to make him buy anal and BBBJ! If her pussy hurts then I guess it would be almost impossible to fit it in her pussy?! My friend is a newbie but I would have taken her to reception, probably will still be forced to pay her 60 but at least management know about her sub standard service. Greedy little that one..Die Lara iS terrible. First, she is not a pretty prostitute. She is old and bad silicone and always smell from cigarettes smoking in her mouth air. Greedy for so much money from all clients. All new girls are same. New Bulgarians, old Hungarians and new Germans. Also be careful German with good body, silicone titen and terrible and bad skin in her face with s all little pickels covet with make up. Old silicone grandmother Gia and her other twin silicone kollega also charge many money for bad service. So, maybe still the old Virginia will be nicer than all working grandmothers in Artemis FKK? I don't know what it us the management think. I also don't care. When I have business in Berlin I go Artemis especially now in the nice weather and I am the making like ninja nooky say, many times I l keep car at the parking in Artemis and I walk to the bordello close and pay less money, younger fresh prostitutes and less money. It is the win for me. Like this happy and not care management or expensive old grandmothers with silicone in Artemis. Thanks you Nooky the ninja.
Jimmy K II
06-25-19, 10:49
Can only confirm what teddybear has written before.
Artemis in Berlin is worth a visit if you are new into FKK clubs.
The club itself is quite nice and also girls are numerous and most of them not ugly.
BUT: during the last 2-3 years, Artemis-girls have changed their price policy and are asking extra money for everything that is "not just standard".
This can be DFK, BBBJ (what was included the years before.).
I don't go to Artemis any more as it has become too expensive for me (or better, the value for money is no longer given).
When I'm in Berlin for business, I'm mostly hunting on kaufmich.com and have a nice companionship in my hotel room.
Can only confirm what teddybear has written before.
Artemis in Berlin is worth a visit if you are new into FKK clubs.
The club itself is quite nice and also girls are numerous and most of them not ugly.
BUT: during the last 2-3 years, Artemis-girls have changed their price policy and are asking extra money for everything that is "not just standard".
This can be DFK, BBBJ (what was included the years before.).
I don't go to Artemis any more as it has become too expensive for me (or better, the value for money is no longer given).
When I'm in Berlin for business, I'm mostly hunting on kaufmich.com and have a nice companionship in my hotel room.Agree, but also must mention girls that lie about the time or when you pay for half an hour make you out in 5-10 minutes. Happens all the time.
Colleagues,
My interest beyond the basic program of suck and fuck, is kissing. All girls rated above 5 asked for EUR 50 extra for kissing. Those that were 5 and lower were ready to kiss for no extra money. I would also assume that the latter do better in the room. At least in my case I had a 5 and a 2 that were very hot in the room.
It's a matter of supply and demand. Obviously the demand for the 5 and lower girls is lower, so in order to earn money and finance the EUR 80 they pay Artemis, they have to ask for lower price. In addition, as they session less and thus, are less tired, their service is better. So, my conclusion is that for the looks you can just watch the stunners and for the action and your pocket, select the others. Stunners are for watching, other are for touching.
I had a 5 and a 2 that were very hot in the room.Both are big booty BBW Romanians.
# 5: Adina has very big natural tits and is usually sitting with a few friends on a sofa facing the stripper pole which is located in the space that is between the bar zone and the dining room. The sofa is laying on the border betwen the bar zone and the stripper pole space.
# 2: Darling is has medium-sized tits and wears glasses. She walks around and was hotter than Adina in the room.
Both were not busy as I could judge.
My second time in Artemis. Saturday was very busy. Many girls and many customers.
After relaxing at spa I went again with dream girl Gigi in the room. She is from Bulgaria. Long blond hair and natural breast. We stayed one hour. She gave me a nice time. I hope I see her again. Second session half hour was with two crazy beautiful girls. Claudia from Polen and Dilara from turkey. I know Dilara from last time she ask me if go with Claudia in the room. I said yes. It was my first experience with two girls and it was fantastic.
For me Artemis is the best club. I was in Frankfurt and cologne in some places. But the girls are not so nice like in Artemis.
Nooky Ninja
06-26-19, 21:31
After relaxing at spa I went again with dream girl Gigi in the room. She is from Bulgaria. Long blond hair and natural breast. We stayed one hour. Second session half hour was with two crazy beautiful girls. Claudia from Polen and Dilara from turkey. It was my first experience with two girls and it was fantastic.Well Ninja have only 2 questions:
1. Do you think Artemis is the best club? and
2. We are still recovering from your April visit which expanded Euro money supply. The ECB calls this Project Apollo. So this time, how much did each of these little adventures cost you?
Heard Artemis girls are considering establishing their own digital currency, to be capitalised by their earnings but then mongers can invest; fickcoin.
Well Ninja have only 2 questions:
1. Do you think Artemis is the best club? and
2. We are still recovering from your April visit which expanded Euro money supply. The ECB calls this Project Apollo. So this time, how much did each of these little adventures cost you?
Heard Artemis girls are considering establishing their own digital currency, to be capitalised by their earnings but then mongers can invest; fickcoin.LOL why are you giving him a hard time if he had fun?
ExpatLover
06-27-19, 04:30
My second time in Artemis. Saturday was very busy. Many girls and many customers.
After relaxing at spa I went again with dream girl Gigi in the room. She is from Bulgaria. Long blond hair and natural breast. We stayed one hour. She gave me a nice time. I hope I see her again. Second session half hour was with two crazy beautiful girls. Claudia from Polen and Dilara from turkey. I know Dilara from last time she ask me if go with Claudia in the room. I said yes. It was my first experience with two girls and it was fantastic.
For me Artemis is the best club. I was in Frankfurt and cologne in some places. But the girls are not so nice like in Artemis.Best club for those who like woman around 30+, veteran prostitute, sili, Botox, up selling, expensive entry ticket, I like young, fresh girls therefor not my best club at all, also a no go club for many German mongers.
Ludacris775
06-27-19, 17:43
Same with me, I stop going in 2015 due to decline in young beautiful girls in Artemis. I also changed to Hessen and nrw region clubs.
Artemis became club for mostly older plastic surgery tattoo girls club with extreme upsell was the reason why I stopped going to Artemis in 2015.
I cannot say for recent lineup since I have not been there since 2015, but report here looks quite good and I hope management managed to put in few younger beautiful girls in line up by now.
I am going there in late summer, so I hope line up will be good like it used to be in early 2010's.
Nobody want old plastic tattooed up girls."Nobody want old plastic girls".
I don't LOL. Between that and the high entry fee, I think I'm going to remove Artemis from my travel plans too.
Do the escort agencies in Germany / Netherlands have more hot providers / stunners than the clubs.
"Nobody want old plastic girls".
I don't LOL. Between that and the high entry fee, I think I'm going to remove Artemis from my travel plans too.
Do the escort agencies in Germany / Netherlands have more young hot providers / stunners than the clubs.Artemis used to be the best club for me from year 2009 till 2014, but in 2015, I removed Artemis from my FKK club list to go for following reasons below:
1: Stunners level beautiful girls that were there in line up has all vanished and all remain was older plastic tattoo girls who are ugly.
2: Extreme upsell became radical and they ask money every little thing that add up to total cost more than globe Zurich.
3: Sometimes, even you pay extra, girls may give bad service in room.
4: Too much smoke in main bar, which was always there, but got too much combined with all above.
5: 30 min is more like 15 min or 20 min in room for girls in Artemis.
6: And all the cheap little tricks girls try to play on you made me tired of negotiating and cannot relax.
What I used to like at Artemis was few young beautiful girls who were really beautiful, there usually were 3 to 5 girls like that, but it was gone since around 2015, that made me stop going to Artemis plus upsell becoming extreme.
I am giving another try after few years because I got transit flight in late summer in Berlin. I hope the situation got improved.
ExpatLover
06-28-19, 08:20
"Nobody want old plastic girls".
I don't LOL. Between that and the high entry fee, I think I'm going to remove Artemis from my travel plans too.
Do the escort agencies in Germany / Netherlands have more young hot providers / stunners than the clubs.Never escort in NL but many times in the, yes more real students in escort, most of them are German, but you can not find any top model type mostly GFE, average face but some have great body and they are not overfucked like most of the top girls in the FKK.
Member #4733
06-28-19, 16:19
Do the escort agencies in Germany..To my knowledge "hot" is best available at Samya, Cologne, after 7 pm.
In the Netherlands "hot" is available but it would be difficult to name a scene without extra info. That is, you can find those girls in RLD Amsterdam easily but foreigners keep making mistakes. I wrote quite a lot about that in the Amsterdam thread. Another option in the Netherlands is high end escorts but you will pay E. G. 1000 euro for 3 hours. And I only did that once and it was awful service, so. But hot she was.
Ludacris775
06-28-19, 17:34
Artemis used to be the best club for me from year 2009 till 2014, but in 2015, I removed Artemis from my FKK club list to go for following reasons below:
1: Stunners level beautiful girls that were there in line up has all vanished and all remain was older plastic tattoo girls who are ugly.
2: Extreme upsell became radical and they ask money every little thing that add up to total cost more than globe Zurich.
3: Sometimes, even you pay extra, girls may give bad service in room.
4: Too much smoke in main bar, which was always there, but got too much combined with all above.
5: 30 min is more like 15 min or 20 min in room for girls in Artemis.
6: And all the cheap little tricks girls try to play on you made me tired of negotiating and cannot relax..Thanks for the info.
For me, I won't "just check out" Artemis this time. I'm flying into Amsterdam from the US and will be going to the Dusseldorf and Frankfurt clubs, for sure, but probably won't go to Berlin. Next time if I'm in Berlin I might. From 6 months lurking on this forum I've seen that's been the consensus about Artemis here, that the club is passed its prime.
Ludacris775
06-29-19, 02:53
To my knowledge "hot" is best available at Samya, Cologne, after 7 pm.
In the Netherlands "hot" is available but it would be difficult to name a scene without extra info. That is, you can find those girls in RLD Amsterdam easily but foreigners keep making mistakes. I wrote quite a lot about that in the Amsterdam thread. Another option in the Netherlands is high end escorts but you will pay E. G. 1000 euro for 3 hours. And I only did that once and it was awful service, so. But hot she was."You can find hot girls in the Amsterdam RLD. Foreigners keep making mistakes".
What do you mean by "foreigners keep making mistakes"? What kind of mistakes? I don't quite understand what you are getting at.
I will be sure to check out all your Amsterdam escort and red light district reviews thanks for that info.
Member #4733
06-30-19, 13:34
"You can find hot girls in the Amsterdam RLD. Foreigners keep making mistakes". What do you mean by "foreigners keep making mistakes"? What kind of mistakes? I don't quite understand what you are getting at. I will be sure to check out all your Amsterdam escort and red light district reviews thanks for that info.I have written a few times in the Amsterdam thread. I refer to those postings. You can easily find them. I am not going to repeat over and over again. Just search and RTFF.
1: Stunners level beautiful girls that were there in line up has all vanished and all remain was older plastic tattoo girls who are ugly.
True.
2: Extreme upsell became radical and they ask money every little thing that add up to total cost more than globe Zurich.
Globe has good service, but true about money.
3: Sometimes, even you pay extra, girls may give bad service in room.
Frequently.
4: Too much smoke in main bar, which was always there, but got too much combined with all above.
As always, worst is cigar smoke.
5: 30 min is more like 15 min or 20 min in room for girls in Artemis.
More like 7-10 minutes.
6: And all the cheap little tricks girls try to play on you made me tired of negotiating and cannot relax.
True.
What I used to like at Artemis was few young beautiful girls who were really beautiful, there usually were 3 to 5 girls like that, but it was gone since around 2015, that made me stop going to Artemis plus upsell becoming extreme.
Level of top 3 is much less the 75 percentile 5 years back.
All in all agreed. Artemis is a shameful club. All about money. Extremely sad situation.
Berlin desperately need a competitor club.
ZimmerBaby
07-01-19, 10:59
Level of top 3 is much less the 75 percentile 5 years back.
All in all agreed. Artemis is a shameful club. All about money. Extremely sad situation.Agreed. What I miss from Artemis, I find in NRW. Good vibe and service, lower price, respectful and beautiful natural girls. As mentioned many times; Artemis desperately needs competition.
ExpatLover
07-01-19, 13:08
Agreed. What I miss from Artemis, I find in NRW. Good vibe and service, lower price, respectful and beautiful natural girls. As mentioned many times; Artemis desperately needs competition.A is the best club for low demanding mongers, ready to pay a lot for MILF woman, fake boobs, Botox. All the things I hate and I am not ready to pay for.
Agreed. What I miss from Artemis, I find in NRW. Good vibe and service, lower price, respectful and beautiful natural girls. As mentioned many times; Artemis desperately needs competition.Me as well. NRW almost exclusively in the last months.
HerrPuppetMaster
07-02-19, 17:45
Me as well. NRW almost exclusively in the last months.Noob question. What is this NRW people are mentioning? I've tried the search function as well as google but to no avail.
BigBuddy69
07-02-19, 19:33
Check your google because the first link it gives me is correct: Nord Rhein Westphalia.
Nooky Ninja
07-02-19, 21:02
Noob question. What is this NRW people are mentioning? I've tried the search function as well as google but to no avail.NRW = Nirvana Republic of Women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Rhine-Westphalia
HerrPuppetMaster
07-03-19, 05:40
NRW = Nirvana Republic of Women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Rhine-WestphaliaHaha, thanks Ninja & BigBuddy! I thought it referred to a specific club, rather than a region.
Me as well. NRW almost exclusively in the last months.What do you think the top clubs are in NRW. Sorry to post this in the Berlin section. Going back to Berlin and Artemis next month, but 'might' try a road trip for 48 hours.
BlueBudgie
07-03-19, 21:21
I have been only for the first time in 2017. I was back in summer 2018. I will be back again this summer.
There were many ugly old sharks as you mentioned. Tattooed hustlers from eastern bloc and Turkish girls hustling.
I was still able to have fun by just avoiding those girls and avoiding the bar.
Last summer I had an amazing Latina that I ended up sessioning with twice.
An actual German girl from Berlin.
A nice Polish girl.
All young and (relatively) fresh.
They of course did do upsells for OV ohne etc.
What I hate is when they upsell for simple kissing not even zunge kissing.
I tell them Nevermind at that point.
Anyway two weeks from now I will have a report to offer!
ExpatLover
07-03-19, 22:30
What do you think the top clubs are in NRW. Sorry to post this in the Berlin section. Going back to Berlin and Artemis next month, but 'might' try a road trip for 48 hours.Samya was great but also going down a lot in the recent months, NRW is not at he level of Hessen, with Shark, Oase and World. For me no more any reason to go there.
Ludacris775
07-03-19, 23:05
I have written a few times in the Amsterdam thread. I refer to those postings. You can easily find them. I am not going to repeat over and over again. Just search and RTFF.No problem, I easily found those posts and read them. No need for you to repeat anything. They were very informative about the mistakes a lot of tourists make in the RLD.
ExpatLover
07-04-19, 03:58
I have been only for the first time in 2017. I was back in summer 2018. I will be back again this summer.
There were many ugly old sharks as you mentioned. Tattooed hustlers from eastern bloc and Turkish girls hustling.
I was still able to have fun by just avoiding those girls and avoiding the bar.
Last summer I had an amazing Latina that I ended up sessioning with twice.
An actual German girl from Berlin.
A nice Polish girl.
All young and (relatively) fresh.Before going to the room ask the girl to go with you outside under the sunshine, not sure you will not change your mind, extremely difficult to find a fresh and young girl, good luck.
ZimmerBaby
07-04-19, 16:46
Artemis really so bad? I've had more than hundred visits at A and have experienced some spectacular moments. Back then I used to pay 50 for CIM. Never anal or lesbian shows for me. The first period of president Obama was a historically high peak for me.
Some weeks ago I visited a club near Dusseldorf:
Was greeted by a Dominican smiling girl with huge tits. Gave me a guided tour around the club, then gave me a towel and kept waiting for me while I was showering. On my way out of shower area, she grabbed my hand, removed the towel and gave me a girlfriend DFK while she caressed my cock. Then went down and performed a spectacular BBBJ until I was close to cum. She stopped and asked if I wanted a coffee or tea in the living room. My heart was beating fast, FAST! My reproductive organ wasn't able too sleep while I tried to drink the coffee. She sat with me and kissed my ears, and played with me until I pre-cummed a lot. She observed this and removed it with her right index finger, which she put in her mouth and swallowed. Note: during this initial 30 minutes, not once did she ask me to zimmer her. She actually offerd me to try the food; meatballs in tomato sauce, spaghetti, fresh bread with Jamon Iberico and salads. I thought no fucking meatballs now, I have to session her before madness destoys my body and soul.
1 hour session, lots of DFK (actually so much and extreme that I could barely breath). Body kissing, BBBJ, ball sucking and rimming. I was in paradise. Fucking in several positions, back to 69, more kissing and sucked me off in CIM. Then ended it with a nice back massage. Price: 80 E / 1 hour.
How does this sound to you?
These things sometimes happened to me at Artemis in 2009,2010 and 2011. But today, negotiate for LFK, BBBJ and massage? Many FFK visits makes a man hard to please.
You want to know which club? That would be 50 E for the info.
You want to know which club? That would be 50 E for the info.The purpose of the site is to share information. If you don't want to do that, then that's your prerogative. But then, you should just post nothing about it versus coming off as "I know something you don't".
ZimmerBaby
07-04-19, 17:11
What do you think the top clubs are in NRW. Sorry to post this in the Berlin section. Going back to Berlin and Artemis next month, but 'might' try a road trip for 48 hours.Not enough reasearch done to answer your question. If you can survive without 9's and 10's, Living Room in Kaarst. Easy access from Dusseldorf HBh to IKEA Kaarst with S-bahn. Sky Saunaclub in Wuppertal is also underrated. Samya is ok but too many cocks per sqm and loud Turkish music.
Next and first visits: Dolce Vita, Magnum, Golden Time, Acapulco Gold, Bernds and Oceans. There are more clubs available too, some with shitty reviews, but I don't care, have to see them by myself.
Not enough reasearch done to answer your question. If you can survive without 9's and 10's, Living Room in Kaarst. Easy access from Dusseldorf HBh to IKEA Kaarst with S-bahn. Sky Saunaclub in Wuppertal is also underrated. Samya is ok but too many cocks per sqm and loud Turkish music.
Next and first visits: Dolce Vita, Magnum, Golden Time, Acapulco Gold, Bernds and Oceans. There are more clubs available too, some with shitty reviews, but I don't care, have to see them by myself.Wow I have a lot of 'research' to get through. Thanks.
ZimmerBaby
07-04-19, 17:25
Wow I have a lot of 'research' to get through. Thanks.Lots of valuable info in the Reports of Distinction part:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2019-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction
Next and first visits: Dolce Vita, Magnum, Golden Time, Acapulco Gold, Bernds and Oceans. There are more clubs available too, some with shitty reviews, but I don't care, have to see them by myself.I would really suggest Acapulco over Acapulco Gold now that it reopened last weekend. And perhaps somewhere like Babylon or Sixsense is better than Bernds. As for Magnum type of club, Villa Vertigo (it has a new name I forgot) or PHG might have better girls for the day. Similar type of clubs, so lineups change a bit. Can be lucky anywhere in the clubs mentioned, but its a risk seeing lineups are smaller in average in nrw. Best have a car and backup plans if you are choosy. But entry fees can add up unless you are smart about checking for discounts.
I have been only for the first time in 2017. I was back in summer 2018. I will be back again this summer.
There were many ugly old sharks as you mentioned. Tattooed hustlers from eastern bloc and Turkish girls hustling.
I was still able to have fun by just avoiding those girls and avoiding the bar.
Last summer I had an amazing Latina that I ended up sessioning with twice.
An actual German girl from Berlin.
A nice Polish girl.
All young and (relatively) fresh.I frequented Artemis from year 2009 till 2015. It used to be my favorite club because of following:
1: facility was big and good enough for me to stay all day and I can even work out. And plenty of escape place to just relax and chill away from girls. I used to enjoy laying on garden bed and watch stars / sky between sessions.
2: Line up was so diverse back then with about 2 to 5 stunner level girls in line up and new ones often get added each week or two, so each visit provided me few new stunner level beauty to fuck.
3: Food is not good, but I am not there for food and I often took in Turkish meal from outside. Also I met some nice guys there during meal for casual chats. I liked those meetings that you only meet then and gone forever. Memorable chats.
4: Upsell was always there, but all the best of best dirty service I got in FKK were in Artemis and palace. These tourist upsell club offer good service if you give into upsell that was reasonable enough.
5: Beside smokes, I love the set up of main bar where I can sit on sofa and look at girls walking in and of course stairway area where slot machine is with good lighting to see all the girls walking into main bar.
6: Good steam room separated from main building where you get away from it all. It is good if you stay long time.
However, in 2015. Somehow stunners in lineup vanished and it was left with mostly just older plastic monster girls with too much paints on their body. And upsell became just too extreme beginning to try to charge you for every little actions, I could negotiate and get what I want, but I got tired of dealing with the deal girls offer that only serve them. So I decided to move on to Hessen then to nrw.
I am returning in late summer this year to Artemis too. I hope it will be good visit.
Either way, I have so many good memories in Artemis that it is nostalgic for me just being there. Some stunner girls I sessioned with are long gone, but I will still see their shadows here and there when I will be in Artemis, this is something I like about FKK mongering, I am there for pure sex, but I do enjoy these nostalgic moments.
You meet these stunners that blow your mind, take her to upstairs, do most dirty first night of honeymoon sex, share some memorable moment that last inside your head eternally, go down stairs, pay reasonable amount, kiss and she is gone forever soon or later. Then on to the next stunner.
ZimmerBaby
07-05-19, 06:46
I would really suggest Acapulco over Acapulco Gold now that it reopened last weekend. And perhaps somewhere like Babylon or Sixsense is better than Bernds. As for Magnum type of club, Villa Vertigo (it has a new name I forgot) or PHG might have better girls for the day. Similar type of clubs, so lineups change a bit. Can be lucky anywhere in the clubs mentioned, but its a risk seeing lineups are smaller in average in nrw. Best have a car and backup plans if you are choosy. But entry fees can add up unless you are smart about checking for discounts.Thanks! Definitely on my list.
TeddyBears
07-06-19, 03:57
Mr Ho.
Only stunner that was left on my recent visit was Carrie (BUL) and even if I has been with her on several occasions over the years she is not GFE and upsells BBBJ and the younger pretty girls at Artemis I wouldn't call stunners, none of them are above 7/8 out of 10 in my book.
Visit Spain instead much better value and prettier girls imo.
Mr Ho.
Only stunner that was left on my recent visit was Carrie (BUL) and even if I has been with her on several occasions over the years she is not GFE and upsells BBBJ and the younger pretty girls at Artemis I wouldn't call stunners, none of them are above 7/8 out of 10 in my book.
Visit Spain instead much better value and prettier girls imo.OK, I got to go through Berlin for transit, so I might as well as hit my old fav. I will give out feed back like in late September. It is hit and miss, but I hope I will get lucky.
Mr Ho.
Only stunner that was left on my recent visit was Carrie (BUL) and even if I has been with her on several occasions over the years she is not GFE and upsells BBBJ and the younger pretty girls at Artemis I wouldn't call stunners, none of them are above 7/8 out of 10 in my book.
Visit Spain instead much better value and prettier girls imo.Carrie from Bulgaria works at least 7 years at Artemis. She is always grumpy. Upsells is an understatement. She used to be very pretty, but IMO not a stunner 9.5/10. Never passed 8. 5/10. But I also see most of the rest as 6/10, so my curve is lower anyway. 6 years ago Carrie had a good skin on the face. Now she is just old and wrinkled with layers of make up. Her behavior is absolutely terrible. But she is in good company at Artemis. I'm not negative just realistic, honestly.
TeddyBears
07-07-19, 19:01
Danny.
I agree what you are writing about Carrie, she was better looking when she was younger and I have seen her blow people off and rejecting customers is common for her. But for some reason she has always treated me very well and I have had many sessions with her over the years. I think she is very attractive, not seen many better looking girls at Artemis over the years but of course we all have different taste in women. But her service level is questionable as I pointed out she upsells BBBJ just as 98% of all girls at Artemis do. But her delightful little tight pussy is very tasteful, LOL.
Carrie from Bulgaria works at least 7 years at Artemis. She is always grumpy. Upsells is an understatement. She used to be very pretty, but IMO not a stunner 9.5/10. Never passed 8. 5/10. But I also see most of the rest as 6/10, so my curve is lower anyway. 6 years ago Carrie had a good skin on the face. Now she is just old and wrinkled with layers of make up. Her behavior is absolutely terrible. But she is in good company at Artemis. I'm not negative just realistic, honestly.True, her attitude can be a problem. I always wondered what the deal was. But her body is or at least was quite spectacular at its height. I think she started the same year as I visited Artemis first time also, 2012. And I saw her in the online lineup as early as February that year. Not sure about her skin, but I did like her hair the last time I saw her, and it seemed as if she had toned down the hatred a bit. Sometimes she could just click and almost scream out. I tried asking her something once, and she was busy talking to a friend of hers. So I patiently waited 10 sec. Apparently it was extremely rude of me to wait. Since I obviously was listening to what they were talking about. As if I even knew Bulgarian. And since then she hasn't gone with me, telling me no, LOL! Oh well, at least her friends always were in a great mood with me and excused her acts.
Carrie from Bulgaria works at least 7 years at Artemis. She is always grumpy. Upsells is an understatement. She used to be very pretty, but IMO not a stunner 9.5/10. Never passed 8. 5/10. But I also see most of the rest as 6/10, so my curve is lower anyway. 6 years ago Carrie had a good skin on the face. Now she is just old and wrinkled with layers of make up. Her behavior is absolutely terrible. But she is in good company at Artemis. I'm not negative just realistic, honestly.FKK make girls old fast. Smokes especially in case of Artemis, working hours that are insane, too much pussy and anal pounding on daily basis and stress it causes to their Hormones. Surgeries, money pressure, food, late night coffees girls drink mess with their adrenal gland and so on. I mean it is worst environment for young girls.
One odd thing I noticed. When girl come to FKK first, their waist line is thin and fit, but years of pounding. Their not waist fat, but I think their waist bones get wider and bit bigger. I realized this. I wonder if it is constant penis pounding into pussy somehow make their waist bones some how wider and ass bit bigger? It is not them gaining weight, it is more bone structure that changes.
Generally, girls are Artemis has good attitude outside room beside up sell, inside room is different story sometimes LOL but I have come across very few rude ones, well I got to say these girls are very stressed, so it does not justify their attitude, but it explain where that attitude comes from.
Some girls complain about business being low. I mean if they throw attitude, upsell extremely, act different once in room, all the cheap hustler tricks they try on you. I mean what do they expect.
I have much fond memories of girls in early 2010's, but in 2014 and 2015. Artemis was just terrible. 4 years of absent, I will see this year. At least give me beautiful girls line up, I just need 3 or 4 girls like stunner level, then I am happy monger.
I mean what is Kennan doing with all these rather fat older plastic tattoo girls? What we client want is young beautiful model look girls. Like once Artemis had few of.
Member #4636
07-08-19, 17:25
One odd thing I noticed. When girl come to FKK first, their waist line is thin and fit, but years of pounding. Their not waist fat, but I think their waist bones get wider and bit bigger. I realized this. I wonder if it is constant penis pounding into pussy somehow make their waist bones some how wider and ass bit bigger? It is not them gaining weight, it is more bone structure that changes.This is one of the most funny things I have read, it made my day thanks buddy LOL.
Yes too much penis in their pussy makes their waist go wider and the bones softer. The more they get fucked the bigger ass they get LOL LOL.
This is one of the most funny things I have read, it made my day thanks buddy LOL.
Yes too much penis in their pussy makes their waist go wider and the bones softer. The more they get fucked the bigger ass they get LOL LOL.Well it make sense, it affect muscle and fat around their pussy and make them wider and kind of push waist bones to side ways making their ass and waist wider and bigger as they stay long time in FKK.
Any men here who are not characterised by too much talk and not enough walk? No? I know. Nevertheless I am asking.
Are curvy hookers around at the moment? Hookers who know how to shake on the floor what mama gave them? Hookers who are able to let them big tits bounce while their walk around? Hookers with curves like status symbols, wiggle wiggle, you know? No? I know.
I am talking here about real butts for men and not about slim young Mädchen ass. My bear hands need something to grab and not something they could hurt.
Are there hookers around screaming for more instead of starting to close their legs after 7 seconds because the rip-off business is wanted by consultant pimp?
Impotent pimp had his last erection back in the 80's as he saw for the first time what young slim Mädchen looks like under her Burka. Pimp don't like customers who enjoy penetrating his property.
Any hookers there who deserve to be called a hooker? Or only Mädchen who are doing what pimp is telling 24/7? No? I know.
In Artemis are hookers who believe they have a Hooker-ID because psycho pimp said so. You know? You know.
Germany has pretty crazy house rules for everyone. But only the not so cool dumb ones are following.
The Rest, needs to get rich, yearns for respect, but is still stateless.
Next time I spread some hate from the bottom of my heart for big time cheaters.
Empty promise, FKK Club syndrome.
You know.
Danny.
I agree what you are writing about Carrie, she was better looking when she was younger and I have seen her blow people off and rejecting customers is common for her. But for some reason she has always treated me very well and I have had many sessions with her over the years. I think she is very attractive, not seen many better looking girls at Artemis over the years but of course we all have different taste in women. But her service level is questionable as I pointed out she upsells BBBJ just as 98% of all girls at Artemis do. But her delightful little tight pussy is very tasteful, LOL.When did she start upselling BBBJ? She definitely didn't upsell 5 years ago.
Science says physical use of bones makes the bones thicker. So there could be some facts to it. But I personally think it is more related to how girls sit too much. Not trying to blame, nor claim that girls shouldn't be allowed to sit. But you find the exact same tendency at university. When they start university right after high school and they have done lots of team sports in high school, then at university they spend waaaaay too much time sitting and studying. So girls hips and waist gets a lot wider. After just 2 or 3 years of this sitting and studying phase, many girls goes from being a 9 to being a 7. University is thus the worst place for girls. LOL! I know this is so politically incorrect. But universities should definitely have gym classes! 5 times a week! I go to a university gym myself since it is the best gym in town, and I notice this all the time. And many girls are good at also working out. But problem is most girls fall off their gym memberships just 2 months into a new semester. And if they have a semester off without any gym, and then return, they instantly get wider hips. And the sitting is the key problem. I suppose Globe knows this, even how draconic it is. Gym just 3 times a week with especially some cardio for girls, and other light exercises for their butt would be more than enough. Then they could sit afterwards no problem. And it shouldn't be draconic. Smart girls should realize it would be for their own good.
TeddyBears
07-09-19, 17:07
When did she start upselling BBBJ? She definitely didn't upsell 5 years ago.After the new law regarding BBBJ.
I frequented Artemis from year 2009 till 2015. It used to be my favorite club
However, in 2015. Somehow stunners in lineup vanished and it was left with mostly just older plastic monster girls with too much paints on their body. And upsell became just too extreme beginning to try to charge you for every little actions, I could negotiate and get what I want, but I got tired of dealing with the deal girls offer that only serve them. So I decided to move on to Hessen then to nrw.
I am returning in late summer this year to Artemis too. I hope it will be good visit.
Either way, I have so many good memories in Artemis that it is nostalgic for me just being there. Some stunner girls I sessioned with are long gone, but I will still see their shadows here and there when I will be in ArtemisI really enjoyed reading this post. Because it 100% reflects my own thoughts about this great club. It was my first FKK and I will never forget it. But I haven't been for over 2 years for exactly the same reasons. I am in Berlin next week and will head back to the club. I just hope the LU has improved so I can enjoy a great time again. I've never had a really bad night in Artemis.
Summerloic
07-12-19, 01:21
Hi,
I went to Artemis last November and I really enjoyed it. I plan to visit it again. The last time I spent a great moment with a young girl 24 (Eastern Europe. Turkish? There for 4 months, dark hair, not natural tits, two piercings on her tits and tan looking skin.
I cannot remember her name.
Does someone has already meet her?
I really enjoyed reading this post. Because it 100% reflects my own thoughts about this great club. It was my first FKK and I will never forget it. But I haven't been for over 2 years for exactly the same reasons. I am in Berlin next week and will head back to the club. I just hope the LU has improved so I can enjoy a great time again. I've never had a really bad night in Artemis.Haha, same situation as me, but I be back in little shorter than 2 months time to Artemis after 4 years absence. Let us hope Artemis improved their line up and made it younger and more beautiful.
It used to be such a good club with young girls and it was my first FKK too. I want Artemis to come back to how it once used to be.
Good luck for your visit! And let us know!
Jimmy K II
07-12-19, 07:55
I frequented Artemis from year 2009 till 2015. It used to be my favorite club because of following:
However, in 2015. Somehow stunners in lineup vanished and it was left with mostly just older plastic monster girls with too much paints on their body. And upsell became just too extreme beginning to try to charge you for every little actions, I could negotiate and get what I want, but I got tired of dealing with the deal girls offer that only serve them. So I decided to move on to Hessen then to nrw.
I am returning in late summer this year to Artemis too. I hope it will be good visit.
Either way, I have so many good memories in Artemis that it is nostalgic for me just being there. Some stunner girls I sessioned with are long gone, but I will still see their shadows here and there when I will be in Artemis, this is something I like about FKK mongering, I am there for pure sex, but I do enjoy these nostalgic moments.
You meet these stunners that blow your mind, take her to upstairs, do most dirty first night of honeymoon sex, share some memorable moment that last inside your head eternally, go down stairs, pay reasonable amount, kiss and she is gone forever soon or later. Then on to the next stunner.Absolutely agree with you as it is and was also my favourite club some years ago.
I made my first experience about 20 years ago at FKK Oase in Burgholzhausen and then got "addicted" to this kind of clubs.
Visited already some clubs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and the paradise for FKK Clubs is NRW in Germany.
Haven't been to Artemis since more than 3 years as during my last visits the girls tryied to upsell as much extras as possible and the crowd was not really the best one.
As venue, Artemis is still a great place with excellent SPA facilities, ok food and always some eye candy.
May be I should it a new try just for memories of the good old times.
Absolutely agree with you as it is and was also my favourite club some years ago.
I made my first experience about 20 years ago at FKK Oase in Burgholzhausen and then got "addicted" to this kind of clubs.
Visited already some clubs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and the paradise for FKK Clubs is NRW in Germany.
Haven't been to Artemis since more than 3 years as during my last visits the girls tryied to upsell as much extras as possible and the crowd was not really the best one.
As venue, Artemis is still a great place with excellent SPA facilities, ok food and always some eye candy.
May be I should it a new try just for memories of the good old times.So much memories there too, and I shall return this late summer. I just hope line up got younger and good as it once used to be.
As for service it was always upsell, as long as it is mild one and service is delivered as promised, then for me it is fine. I just want line up to be young and good as it was before 2014 ish.
Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. When I arrived I paid the 80 Euro entrance fee, got my locker, changed into a robe, and started checking the place out. There were about 25 guys there and about the same number of women at this time. As I was walking around at least six different women came up to me or were following me around, touching me, or chatting me up. With the exception of one woman, most of these women were disappointing. Some of them were way past their prime, and a few of them looked like linebackers! And there was the "smokers crew" sitting at the bar, a heavily tatted Turkish woman, and just a bunch of unattractive women wandering around the place with the exception of one as previously mentioned. But she was just to aggressive for me along with some of the others. In regards to the "free food", it was a bunch of slop, with no juices or ice at the soda machine.
So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not. I was generally turned off by the place, the desperate girls, and don't see what the attraction of the place is. The facilities are okay, but at 80 Euros to get in, not worth it in my opinion. And I am not convinced that the quality of the women would be substantially better later on. Just my thoughts and observations, hopefully others will have a better experience than I did.
Nooky Ninja
07-13-19, 08:03
Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not. Summertime also means some of A's A team on holidays. But in general, Artemis is slow / dead during the day, completely different starting around 6 pm. Almost a different club at night. Been said hundreds of times here in thread, and you heard it from locals also. Frustrating for girls also as so few customers so of course they try harder. But, since you already paid, seems a bit foolish not to at least return for a bit. It is taste / emotion thing and might have made no difference to you; everyone is different. No club is perfect and A certainly has things it could improve (see 1. below). But to judge all this after only 45 minutes at slowest part of day not fair to club, or actually to yourself.
Other new visitors take this to heart. If you go early, best to have low expectations during daytime, just enjoy pool, food (have always found Artemis breakfast with eggs, cheeses, ham, yogurt, croissants, muesli, orange juice pretty good til 3 pm), drinks, sauna etc. And possibly, maybe you will meet someone you like from the 10-25 girls who might be there. But 3-4 times number of day girls start arriving only around 6 pm, and full shift not clear really til 8 pm.
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1. Might be interesting experiment to run if A drastically reduced fee it charges to girls, maybe even to 0, except for those who sleep there who would pay small room charge. It might make girls more relaxed, less pressured to earn back their fee (which takes at least 3 sessions including taxes) etc., less crazy up-selling 1 additional monger would cover the club loss per girl per day. Might also increase competition and improve quality as more girls would compete to work there. This would be a radical move that would be felt throughout all DE FKKs and should bring in a lot of new talent.
There is argument that girls somehow work harder because they have to earn back the fee. But Ninja think they have incentive enough to want to even work there - it is by no means easy money. Might improve atmosphere, reduce sharking, and improve quality of choices, and increase men traffic throughout the day. Of course, it means club needs 70-80 or so new men per day to make up shortfall, which is significant but doable if atmosphere and choices much better.
Might be interesting experiment to run if a drastically reduced fee it charges to girls, maybe even to 0, except for those who sleep there who would pay small room charge.I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.
Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. When I arrived I paid the 80 Euro entrance fee, got my locker, changed into a robe, and started checking the place out. There were about 25 guys there and about the same number of women at this time. As I was walking around at least six different women came up to me or were following me around, touching me, or chatting me up. With the exception of one woman, most of these women were disappointing. Some of them were way past their prime, and a few of them looked like linebackers! And there was the "smokers crew" sitting at the bar, a heavily tatted Turkish woman, and just a bunch of unattractive women wandering around the place with the exception of one as previously mentioned. But she was just to aggressive for me along with some of the others. In regards to the "free food", it was a bunch of slop, with no juices or ice at the soda machine.
So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not. I was generally turned off by the place, the desperate girls, and don't see what the attraction of the place is. The facilities are okay, but at 80 Euros to get in, not worth it in my opinion. And I am not convinced that the quality of the women would be substantially better later on. Just my thoughts and observations, hopefully others will have a better experience than I did.Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.
FiddyCent.
PinballMachine
07-13-19, 12:39
I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?
Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.
The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.
Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.
Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.
I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.
Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.
FiddyCent.Nooky Ninja made some good points, primarily, don't go there before six PM in the evening! The place was just not my cup of tea at all, however I can see how some guys would like the place.
I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!
I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.Some of them act like that anyways LOL.
I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.
ExpatLover
07-13-19, 23:34
I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?
Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.
The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.
Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.
Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.
I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.
BigBuddy69
07-14-19, 00:39
Yeah I know, you told it maybe 20 times in the last few days.
Some of them act like that anyways LOL.Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.
Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.Sorry don't remember the name of the gal at Europa Salon but she was from Moldavia wherever the hell that is! A larger girl but spoke five languages and very pleasant.
A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.Yes this place is not for a seasoned monger with worldwide experience for sure, or someone who likes the street scene like myself.
A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.Was there over the weekend. Terrible.
Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.I agree, and this is something Artemis failed to do. It used to be good club with beautiful lineup with mild up sell, but delivered service. Let see how Artemis improve. Does Kennan even care?
Was there over the weekend. Terrible.When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.
When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.
Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?
If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?
I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?I highly recommend blue-eyed, blonde Lilia from Kiel, Germany (at least that's where she said she is from). When you enter the main room, she always stands on the far right end of the bar against the wall. That's her spot. I heard she had returned to Artemis, but that's already been a few weeks now, and we all know how these girls can be there today and gone tomorrow. She never moves much from her spot, and has no need to as she looks so good the blokes approach her one-by-one for sessions. Makes a lot of money! We both really liked Melissa at Scandalo in Malaga, so I think we have some similarities in taste. Check out Lilia if she's there my friend! I think you will like her.
Nooky Ninja
07-16-19, 07:16
Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?It is summer time so lineup suffers with some regular stars on holidays. But club is still crowded on weekends with both sexes, and cannot be explained by all guests being constantly new ignorant, inexperienced foreign tourists (aren't they always, Mr. Trump?). You will be fine if you just keep wits about you.
Is A as good as it was 2007-2014 - no. But whole scene changed after new law forcing registration and Ninja think quality has suffered. Management not stupid and somehow the pool of girls applying has changed which affects whom they let in. And new law has given girls excuse to upsell, not helped by mongers who have too willingly agreed to this. But affects all FKKs. Some are up, some are down, things change constantly. Now NRW is heaven, before it was Hessen, soon it will be somewhere else. All an individual taste and chemistry thing, which is also why it is silly to recommend girls.
The negativity here is simply odd and narrow, which skews the overall sense of what is the reality. Many reports same people posting again and again and again and again and again, or others judging who have not been in years. So much anger and frustration - to what point? Somehow they think this criticism shows how worldly they are. But really, if they don't like club, say it once, and don't return. Part of club vibe also due to changing mongers, not only changing girls. You read older reports and it is different universe. Artemis thread used to be interesting, funny, lots of useful reports, good place to make and meet new friends. Now it is wasteland. Ninja say all this already many times before and so am guilty as rest, but say it to try to restore balance. My last words on all this.
There have been some recent good reports. So just relax, try one (power) night, not Sun-Wed. If not so great, go to private bordellos all over Berlin. Ninja prefer this option on cost/quality basis but different experience. Keep expectations in check, enjoy the pool and chill on warm day, and go slow to find 1-2 playmates who will be fun.
So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.
Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?
If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?Artemis is a club for visitors. People that go there don't normally read ISG, so they are not aware of the situation. Also, Artemis has less clients now than a few years ago, but it is still a lot.
Girls are over 50 any day and weekends over 100. The reality is that most girls are old. Silicone based. Full of make up. Nothing natural.
The reality is that girls work there so long, customer is not the center, they only care about money. They behave rudely. Because most clients are tourists, service is non existent.
Upsell is extreme, girls will not give blow jobs without unless you pay 50 extra. Many girls don't go to the room for 60. You can forget about service.
Even at palace I get better service at the moment.
Girls that used to be good in other clubs get to Artemis and become terrible. You are there to pay the girls. You are nit there to enjoy sex. Nothing is about you. All is about the money the girls get. That is the sad moto. Go elsewhere if you can.
It is summer time so lineup suffers with some regular stars on holidays. But club is still crowded on weekends with both sexes, and cannot be explained by all guests being constantly new ignorant, inexperienced foreign tourists (aren't they always, Mr. Trump?). You will be fine if you if you just keep wits about you.
Is A as good as it was 2007-2014 - no. But whole scene changed after new law forcing registration and Ninja think quality has suffered. Management not stupid and somehow the pool of girls applying has changed which affects whom they let in. And new law has given girls excuse to upsell, not helped by mongers who have too willingly agreed to this. But affects all FKKs. Some are up, some are down, things change constantly. Now NRW is heaven, before it was Hessen, soon it will be somewhere else. All an individual taste and chemistry thing, which is also why it is silly to recommend girls.
The negativity here is simply odd and narrow, which skews the overall sense of what is the reality. Many reports same people posting again and again and again and again and again, or others judging who have not been in years. So much anger and frustration - to what point? Somehow they think this criticism shows how worldly they are..Ninja, I respect you as a long time Artemis guy, but you are very soft on the current situation. This has never been so extreme and it is worst than palace ever was or is. Yes, palace is a benchmark for extreme upsell.
I highly recommend blue-eyed, blonde Lilia from Kiel, Germany (at least that's where she said she is from). When you enter the main room, she always stands on the far right end of the bar against the wall. That's her spot. I heard she had returned to Artemis, but that's already been a few weeks now, and we all know how these girls can be there today and gone tomorrow. She never moves much from her spot, and has no need to as she looks so good the blokes approach her one-by-one for sessions. Makes a lot of money! We both really liked Melissa at Scandalo in Malaga, so I think we have some similarities in taste. Check out Lilia if she's there my friend! I think you will like her.Thanks for this. If she is anything like the stunning Melissa I will be a very happy man. Melissa remains my no. 1 for looks in all mongering in 30 years. Not the hottest body but her face is beautiful. Will hopefully meet Lilia. Will let you know. From the reports here, including from regular and senior members, my expectations of my return (tonight) are very low. This post gave a glimmer of hope! Thanks.
ZimmerBaby
07-17-19, 17:29
For old customers there are glimpses of lightness in Sheizemis, if you are remembered as a nice person, old price structure will apply though YMMV.
Tried a new girl. Told me "I charge 20 extra to forget the law " with whispering voice like a tantric lady. Got BBBJ, LFK and DATY. It was easier to accept when she added some charm to it.
Thanks for this. If she is anything like the stunning Melissa I will be a very happy man. Melissa remains my no. 1 for looks in all mongering in 30 years. Not the hottest body but her face is beautiful. Will hopefully meet Lilia. Will let you know. From the reports here, including from regular and senior members, my expectations of my return (tonight) are very low. This post gave a glimmer of hope! Thanks.I would say that Melissa probably has the prettier face (although Lilia's face is very, very pretty), and that Lilia has the better body (although Melissa is no slouch). Lilia made me cum harder than any woman has in the last year and a half. That's no exaggeration. I hope you find her. And more than that, I hope you like her, and that she rocks your world! She did mine. Good luck, and happy hunting!
For old customers there are glimpses of lightness in Sheizemis, if you are remembered as a nice person, old price structure will apply though YMMV.
Tried a new girl. Told me "I charge 20 extra to forget the law " with whispering voice like a tantric lady. Got BBBJ, LFK and DATY. It was easier to accept when she added some charm to it.I get it. And a nice bit of innovative thinking on her part. I'm thinking you should have asked for doggie, then when behind insert your cock into her ass without asking and when she screeched you say "oh I thought you'd charge 20 extra for me to forget which hole".
ZimmerBaby
07-17-19, 19:42
I get it. And a nice bit of innovative thinking on her part. I'm thinking you should have asked for doggie, then when behind insert your cock into her ass without asking and when she screeched you say "oh I thought you'd charge 20 extra for me to forget which hole".I wish I could! Her body was extremely sexy. Blond German from eastern side of Berlin. Lots of tattoos and freckles on her face. Man made lips. Have no name. Managed only one position. In CG she kissed my lips lightly, deeply staring in my eyes, and whispering still with tantric voice: "do you like my beautiful pussy? Milked me like a cow. Oh God, this is too much for me right now.
Even at palace I get better service at the moment.What is the full name of this place?
I will go to Berlin next month for the first time. Trying to decide whether go to Artemis or somewhere else.
I would appreciate any help.
I wish I could! Her body was extremely sexy. Blond German from eastern side of Berlin. Lots of tattoos and freckles on her face. Man made lips. Have no name. Managed only one position. In CG she kissed my lips lightly, deeply staring in my eyes, and whispering still with tantric voice: "do you like my beautiful pussy? Milked me like a cow. Oh God, this is too much for me right now.It's a good thing she didn't ask you for more money to deep french kiss you, in that state, you'd have handed over your wallet! I know I would have.
So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.
In the past week I've been looking forward to my trip this evening but that dampened a lot reading many of the negative reports about the club from some seasoned members. Only one positive post from The Cane about a girl called Lilia was a cause for optimism. So here is what I found from a report on the ground.
1. Arrived 8 pm. Club very quiet. I had in mind that it is holiday season and that it is Wednesday (dessous) which I thought might kill numbers. It seemed correct.
2. Got food. Changed layout from last visit with food now at end of the room. Better set out but still pretty poor in quality and I will eat outside before returning to the club tomorrow. Which I shall most certainly do.
3. LU. The important bit. Sure, it is correct that there are many more shapes and sizes than in previous years, a lot of sillicone and tattoos. But in my view that was always there. There are far more older women there now but the overall impression given of it being a very tired, ugly line up, from my perspective, is wide of the mark. There are a lot of very doable girls in the club. There are lots of slim girls, and quite a few girls who are early 20's. Not as many as are late 20's / early 30's but enough. There was one girl I would have needed to see evidence of her age before going to a room with. She looked under 18 to me. I'm sure she isn't. And she was with her two older sisters. Yes - for sure and had it confirmed by other girls, but boy she looked very young indeed and as that is not for me I stayed clear. I did nearly session with her two other sisters but resisted. The options were more than enough. The club picked up by 10 pm but I hadn't chosen my first room. Remembered the very facially pretty and great fun Melanie (Ro. Dark hair) but her ass is a little heavy and she has no tits at all so skipped. Ended up doing only one fabulous room. More below. But overall, I'd say this was the most varied LU I've seen in Artemis. There were 5-10 women who would not score 5/10 being either very fat, old or very ugly. Not nice to say but true. Perhaps they would say the same of me! After that there were at least 30+ girls I'd score 6 or 7's. There were at least 5-10 girls who pushed at or achieve 8/10 status. IMHO there were no girls who scored 9's or 10's. But I'm pretty harsh on looks. Melanie is facially 8 out of 10 but her body brings the overall score down. But there were more than 10 girls I'd be very happy to session with based on looks, body and personality.
4. Was taken by a very tall blonde called Carla. Ro. Very nice eyes, very slim and really lovely sun-kissed body. Some but minimal tattoos. She was lovely to talk to. Sits on couches to left when entering the bar with her friend Francesca who sports thick glasses. Not as pretty but one of the 7's and a decent body. One girl I knew from old warned me off several very good looking girls telling me they thought they were all great performers and were known upsellers. Hard not to approach some of these who were actually very pretty and were in the 8's category. Carla was an 8 from the moment I saw her and had a great personality. Hour in the room. Early possible issue before the room was a reluctance to do BBBJ without receiving another 50 for it. I made clear that if she was not happy with 120 for 1 hour to include it, she wasn't for me. She didn't hold onto the argument and off we went. I had fully intended not to pop but just enjoy it and let the excitement build up, but this girl has 10/10 performance skills. Amazing BBBJ and very good at suggestions on positions. Silicones but it was hard to tell they were even when the bra came off and they felt natural in all positions other than doggie. Lovely big nipples (pierced. As were other places). Really fun girl. Added an extra and ended up agreeing 170 for that for 1 hour with the normal 50 extra factored into the price. Without it she was happy to do 120/ hour but I suspect she may have resisted BBBJ in that price. She was happy to include DFK (though we didn't really go for it much) and DATY which she appeared to enjoy. Her BBBJ and hand skills were off the scale and I couldn't prevent popping which she kept delaying which just made it incredible. At the 1 hour mark she hadn't finished me off and she told me not to worry. No more cash but was keen to finish the job. What was really impressive was her attitude at that point. Instead of rushing it (which I expected) she made a real meal of it, lots of delay, stopping etc and we overshot our time by a whole 25 minutes. I felt guilty and said I'd pay for the extra time. And she refused. Great gesture, she said she'd really enjoyed it and didn't want to rush it for me. What a clever girl not asking for more cash. Result? I gave her 220 anyway. For the terrific service, the extra included in the hour, the extra 25 mintues, and her fabulous attitude. I would definitely repeat and will struggle not to automatically gravitate to her tomorrow.
5. I asked reception if Lilia was in and was told not but that she could be tomorrow. Probably a ruse but I'm going anyway so I'll find out.
6. I thought parts of the club are looking in need of freshening up. But over the years I've never had a bad night in Artemis and this one followed that pattern.
I'll be back there tomorrow evening seeking out some of the 8's I didn't get to today. But safe in the knowledge that the club is far from dead, has several girls I'd very much like to see and the reports of the LU being so dreadful, IMHO, are exaggerated. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to Artemis tonight and will return. It really is not as bad as has been made out.
So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died. I thought parts of the club are looking in need of freshening up. But over the years I've never had a bad night in Artemis and this one followed that pattern. I'll be back there tomorrow evening seeking out some of the 8's I didn't get to today. But safe in the knowledge that the club is far from dead, has several girls I'd very much like to see and the reports of the LU being so dreadful, IMHO, are exaggerated. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to Artemis tonight and will return. It really is not as bad as has been made out.From one veteran to another. Here, here! And here's to hopefully finding Lilia LOL! Cheers!
Nooky Ninja
07-18-19, 07:34
The reports of the LU being so dreadful, IMHO, are exaggerated. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to Artemis tonight and will return. It really is not as bad as has been made out.Nice, balanced, report. Amazing what a little patience, sanity and common sense do for one's enjoyment.
ExpatLover
07-18-19, 08:04
So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.
In the past week I've been looking forward to my trip this evening but that dampened a lot reading many of the negative reports about the club from some seasoned members. Only one positive post from The Cane about a girl called Lilia was a cause for optimism. So here is what I found from a report on the ground.
1. Arrived 8 pm. Club very quiet. I had in mind that it is holiday season and that it is Wednesday (dessous) which I thought might kill numbers. It seemed correct.
2. Got food. Changed layout from last visit with food now at end of the room. Better set out but still pretty poor in quality and I will eat outside before returning to the club tomorrow. Which I shall most certainly do.
3. LU. The important bit. Sure, it is correct that there are many more shapes and sizes than in previous years, a lot of sillicone and tattoos. But in my view that was always there. There are far more older women there now but the overall impression given of it being a very tired, ugly line up, from my perspective, is wide of the mark. There are a lot of very doable girls in the club. There are lots of slim girls, and quite a few girls who are early 20's. Not as many as are late 20's / early 30's but enough..What the girls are thinking about us is meanness we are the client they are the prostitutes, we pay. For me you just confirm that if you add the high entry price, there is no reason to visit A except you have no choice and you are busy in Berlin.
PinballMachine
07-18-19, 15:44
So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.Such a great report.
Many thanks man.
So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.
In the past week I've been looking forward to my trip this evening but that dampened a lot reading many of the negative reports about the club from some seasoned members. Only one positive post from The Cane about a girl called Lilia was a cause for optimism. So here is what I found from a report on the ground.
1. Arrived 8 pm. Club very quiet. I had in mind that it is holiday season and that it is Wednesday (dessous) which I thought might kill numbers. It seemed correct.
2. Got food. Changed layout from last visit with food now at end of the room. Better set out but still pretty poor in quality and I will eat outside before returning to the club tomorrow. Which I shall most certainly do.
3. LU. The important bit. Sure, it is correct that there are many more shapes and sizes than in previous years, a lot of sillicone and tattoos. But in my view that was always there. There are far more older women there now but the overall impression given of it being a very tired, ugly line up, from my perspective, is wide of the mark. There are a lot of very doable girls in the club..A good experience makes everything better. Carla is indeed a strong 8. Also skills are there as she works many years. Melanie fir me a 6, apologies. Yes there some pretty girls, for example the redhead Anabel, but no matter what you pay, you'll get nothing. Most Romanians in Artemis for 1 hour plus CIM will give you good service. However, Romanians are light in youth there. Carla is an example of old but phenomenal looks. IMO. You were in luck as that week started 5-6 girls from Hessen area and are 8 easily.
The young Romanian you rejected for age was a good move as skills are limited.
Put differently; most Romanians will provide you good service for long session plus CIM (they all must make something more than the time to be happy); Germans are a tough sell even in long sessions, be aware. For short half an hour sessions for 60 euro you have a very very low probability of getting serviced.
So decent service not great goes with spending 170 an hour as wrote previously a few times. But, you want get it from beautiful fresh girls normally, but older silicone Romanians. It makes a difference IMO.
Go Sharks, GT, Oase, living room, Acapulco and you'll pay 150 an hour with younger and fresher girls who will kiss you passionately. In Artemis that is not on the menu.
As a tourist, that visits every once in a while and willing to spend 170 an hour on that type of service you can have a decent night, not outstandingly perfect. Half hour customer have near zero chance to have a great time.
So happy truly happy you had a good time, but it doesn't contradict the basic premise of previous reviews.
1. Hardly any fresh girls.
2. Near zero chance for a good 60 euro session.
3. Old and silicone is dominant in Artemis.
4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans.
No changes result for your review.
Hope you enjoy rest if the week.
Best regards friend!
BigBuddy69
07-18-19, 21:10
Actually in LR you'll pay 100 and in Acapulco you'll pay 80, without any pressure about extras.
So many thanks to my fellow contributors for their comments. Before setting out the detail of what ended up being an even better night at Artemis than the first, I will reply to some of the comments made:
The Cane: Lilia from Kiel worked tonight. What a very nice lady. Nice eyes and terrific natural large breasts, but for my liking a little too heavy so I declined but what a lovely girl.
Pinball Machine: Thanks. Glad you liked the report and hope you'll like this one too.
Expat Lover: I 100% agree that the monopoly Artemis has in Berlin is very poor for the market. The proposed new club in Potsdam didn't happen and the monopoly is a very significant negative for mongers as the girls know you have few other options. To turn up at a walk in, be confronted by 4 or 5 girls and have to pick without speaking to them for more than 10 second is on offer elsewhere in Bordellos. But that's what we get back in the UK and US and it is weak and you are at great risk of picking someone who you have no chemistry with. This is the beauty of the FKK model. I spoke to several girls tonight I really liked. Particularly Natasha and Evan. Neither of whom worked last night, both had great bodies. Evan with incredible wheelnut nipples and Natasha with lovely black fishnets and pierced nipples. But nice girls though they were they were not into my personal likes and dislikes and so we passed. It is true that there is little better alternative in Berlin as you say. So sadly there is every reason to go to Artemis as there is no good alternative and for me, the club still has many beauties.
Bigbuddy. I gave up on LR the last time I went. Whilst Sharks and Artemis have smokey bars, there are places to escape with lovely fresh air where there are still girls (e. G. Downstairs in the kino / pool area / wellness at Artemis). LR has a cancer inducing main room where the girls all stand. I have never experienced forced smoke inhalation like it anywhere in the World and I am sad as I like the free beer fridges but the restaurant is tiny, and the cancer risk high. So I won't be returning anytime soon. I only head there if Oceans LU is weak and even then only in real desperation. Cannot speak for Aca but don't like tiny, or none approach clubs.
Danny227. Nice response with many perfectly fair points. To each their own with Mel. There tonight and when no lingerie the boobs looked very tired and drawn and I agree with you that she doesn't get to 8 with those and the large ass. Carla is just amazing and her service is terrific. I repeat your enumerated points for reply below;.
1. Hardly any fresh girls. (I disagree. Several have abandoned Sharks for Artemis. Blonde pretty Kimberley at Sharks is now Jasmine at Artemis). Several others were there tonight who the experienced girls told me " I don't know her she has only been here two weeks".
2. Near zero chance for a good 60 euro session. I totally agree but then I don't do 30 min sessions unless the girl is useless and I tend now to know that from the pre room interview which is essential when planning longer rooms.
3. Old and silicone is dominant in Artemis. Sillicone I agree with. Old I don't. There are definitely too many older girls. But there are also some young ones. I think the average is above the Hessen and NRW clubs but not much over 30 which is fine for me.
4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans. You forgot that 50 of that 170 was for a defined extra so the real price for fabulous service from Carla was 120. I agree that if you are willing to Payforit (sorry couldn't resist and its why its my nick on here!) you get known for it. As I had paid handsomely last night I found a lot of very receptive girls tonight. For anyone not living in Germany these prices are fine. In Spain I expect to pay min 150/ hour if not 200 in most places, 240 in Vive (which is exceptional and 300/ hour in Miladys Palace). In London 150 is available but the best girls range from 200 to 600 per hour. In Australia average is the equivalent of 200/ hour. In Dubai the same for quality. Germans have feasted for a long time on 50/30 rooms or 60 at Artemis. I actually agree with the girls on this. Why should a girl go to the room, totally naked, give you access to her pussy, give you DFK, a BBBJ and work hard on you for 30 minutes all for 60? Time has moved on. It was 60/30 in 2013! Everything else has gone up in price. Why not this? You wouldn't stop buying food if it got expensive and our mutual habit has been very cheap in Germany for a long time. I don't think paying 120 for an hour with a very pretty girl with great service is at all expensive.
No changes result for your review. You are entitled to your opinion but clearly some disagree. This club was being portayed as dead. It is not dead. There are still some very pretty girls to chose from and some have abandoned Hessen for Berlin (and are therefore fresh).
So quickly to tonight. More buzz about the club. Lots of girls I did not see last night. Contemplated a threesome with Jessica and Avia? Both German and great fun. Lilia was lovely but too heavy for me. Evan. Incredible nipples and very intelligent. A solid 7 pushing 8/10. The facially very attractive red head Anabel. But wait for it. She was too skinny for me! And her red haired friend. Also pretty and young. The three sisters were absent. Back from the past Elena. Blonde before. Stunning cheekbones and lovely lingerie but she is one who holds cock when being fucked which I loathe.
I can honestly say I was spoilt for choice. Very much wanted a session with the lovely Natasha (fishnets) but got the vibe it would be mechanical. Had a few beers, laughed a lot with a very tall girl who kept pulling my towel from around my waist in the bar (much to the amusement of several very nice Spanish guys) but ultimately selected a threesome for 1. 5 hours with Carla (again) and her friend Francesca. Brunette with glasses. Had a truly fabulous session, lots of laughs, lots of great sex, DFK from Carla was amazing (so it is available and I paid no more for it) and Francesca was another great service provider in the room. Left very happy and will definitely revisit Artemis without leaving it so long next time. Yes there are oldies, fatties, silicones and tattoos. More than elsewhere to be fair. But I remember once thinking the LU in Sharks was awful. To counter those negative options there remain lots of good ones and as I'm happy to have 2 or 3 great rooms with really lovely and sexy girls, it is still very much an option for me.
Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.
The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.
4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans. You forgot that 50 of that 170 was for a defined extra so the real price for fabulous service from Carla was 120. I agree that if you are willing to Payforit (sorry couldn't resist and its why its my nick on here!) you get known for it. As I had paid handsomely last night I found a lot of very receptive girls tonight. For anyone not living in Germany these prices are fine. In Spain I expect to pay min 150/ hour if not 200 in most places, 240 in Vive (which is exceptional and 300/ hour in Miladys Palace).
Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.
The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.It's so funny hearing people complain about prices. Don't like the prices then don't go.
The Cane: Lilia from Kiel worked tonight. What a very nice lady. Nice eyes and terrific natural large breasts, but for my liking a little too heavy so I declined but what a lovely girl.Yes, Lilia is bigger and taller than Melissa, especially if she's wearing some heels. Very Germanic in her appearance, which I prefer, and not a "gazelle" as some of the guys here describe some of the women. I think Melissa is from Slovenia. Both very nice girls, but I like Lilia's look and performance better. There is some debate about whether her tits are natural or not, but I say who cares? If they aren't, then she had one damn good job done!
Actually in LR you'll pay 100 and in Acapulco you'll pay 80, without any pressure about extras.Absolutely true. I said 150 because he had one extra, so I included it. So true, Acapulco with the extra will be 130.
So many thanks to my fellow contributors for their comments. Before setting out the detail of what ended up being an even better night at Artemis than the first, I will reply to some of the comments made:
The Cane: Lilia from Kiel worked tonight. What a very nice lady. Nice eyes and terrific natural large breasts, but for my liking a little too heavy so I declined but what a lovely girl.
Pinball Machine: Thanks. Glad you liked the report and hope you'll like this one too.
Expat Lover: I 100% agree that the monopoly Artemis has in Berlin is very poor for the market. The proposed new club in Potsdam didn't happen and the monopoly is a very significant negative for mongers as the girls know you have few other options. To turn up at a walk in, be confronted by 4 or 5 girls and have to pick without speaking to them for more than 10 second is on offer elsewhere in Bordellos. But that's what we get back in the UK and US and it is weak and you are at great risk of picking someone who you have no chemistry with. This is the beauty of the FKK model. I spoke to several girls tonight I really liked. Particularly Natasha and Evan. Neither of whom worked last night, both had great bodies. Evan with incredible wheelnut nipples and Natasha with lovely black fishnets and pierced nipples. But nice girls though they were they were not into my personal likes and dislikes and so we passed. It is true that there is little better alternative in Berlin as you say. So sadly there is every reason to go to Artemis as there is no good alternative and for me, the club still has many beauties.
Bigbuddy. I gave up on LR the last time I went. Whilst Sharks and Artemis have smokey bars, there are places to escape with lovely fresh air where there are still girls (e. G. Downstairs in the kino / pool area / wellness at Artemis). LR has a cancer inducing main room where the girls all stand. I have never experienced forced smoke inhalation like it anywhere in the World and I am sad as I like the free beer fridges but the restaurant is tiny, and the cancer risk high. So I won't be returning anytime soon. I only head there if Oceans LU is weak and even then only in real desperation. Cannot speak for Aca but don't like tiny, or none approach clubs.
Danny227. Nice response with many perfectly fair points. To each their own with Mel. There tonight and when no lingerie the boobs looked very tired and drawn and I agree with you that she doesn't get to 8 with those and the large ass. Carla is just amazing and her service is terrific. I repeat your enumerated points for reply below;.
1. Hardly any fresh girls. (I disagree. Several have abandoned Sharks for Artemis. Blonde pretty Kimberley at Sharks is now Jasmine at Artemis). Several others were there tonight who the experienced girls told me " I don't know her she has only been here two weeks".
2. Near zero chance for a good 60 euro session. I totally agree but then I don't do 30 min sessions unless the girl is useless and I tend now to know that from the pre room interview which is essential when planning longer rooms.
3. Old and silicone is dominant in Artemis. Sillicone I agree with. Old I don't. There are definitely too many older girls. But there are also some young ones. I think the average is above the Hessen and NRW clubs but not much over 30 which is fine for me.
4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans. You forgot that 50 of that 170 was for a defined extra so the real price for fabulous service from Carla was 120. I agree that if you are willing to Payforit (sorry couldn't resist and its why its my nick on here!) you get known for it. As I had paid handsomely last night I found a lot of very receptive girls tonight. For anyone not living in Germany these prices are fine. In Spain I expect to pay min 150/ hour if not 200 in most places, 240 in Vive (which is exceptional and 300/ hour in Miladys Palace). In London 150 is available but the best girls range from 200 to 600 per hour. In Australia average is the equivalent of 200/ hour. In Dubai the same for quality. Germans have feasted for a long time on 50/30 rooms or 60 at Artemis. I actually agree with the girls on this. Why should a girl go to the room, totally naked, give you access to her pussy, give you DFK, a BBBJ and work hard on you for 30 minutes all for 60? Time has moved on. It was 60/30 in 2013! Everything else has gone up in price. Why not this? You wouldn't stop buying food if it got expensive and our mutual habit has been very cheap in Germany for a long time. I don't think paying 120 for an hour with a very pretty girl with great service is at all expensive.
No changes result for your review. You are entitled to your opinion but clearly some disagree. This club was being portayed as dead. It is not dead. There are still some very pretty girls to chose from and some have abandoned Hessen for Berlin (and are therefore fresh).
So quickly to tonight. More buzz about the club. Lots of girls I did not see last night. Contemplated a threesome with Jessica and Avia? Both German and great fun. Lilia was lovely but too heavy for me. Evan. Incredible nipples and very intelligent. A solid 7 pushing 8/10. The facially very attractive red head Anabel. But wait for it. She was too skinny for me! And her red haired friend. Also pretty and young. The three sisters were absent. Back from the past Elena. Blonde before. Stunning cheekbones and lovely lingerie but she is one who holds cock when being fucked which I loathe..Kimberly, while extremely sweet has a pretty face and disproportionate body, is really really not a definition of a good girl: she doesn't room a lot and when she does make sure you take your check book with you and she is there for less than a week. Not an example at all. Apologies. BTW: service is non existent. Fact.
What I meant is, so most girls like Carla will not give you 1 hour for 120 good service. Just won't. The added extra does that and it makes more sense to them like I said, you got lucky with Carla. Maybe you have not been in Artemis for a while so your eyes didn't adjust yet: dominated by old women, period. Older is 35-40. Old in this job is already 30. Girls that work 7-10 years. Old and not fresh. You'll see it once your eyes adjust. No irony here, seriously.
And the most important is that most people like to go for half an hour and get a reasonable value for money: near zero chance to find. Most people don't want to spend 200 in the room. So, for the majority of clients, Artemis is a very difficult environment. So, young and fresh girls that will give you good service and passionately kiss you with minimum money discussions (those kill the atmosphere) in a half hour session are in NRW and Hessen, but not in Artemis. Artemis is a club for visitors or foreigners that don't mind paying too much and have lower service requirements. Visit NRW and then report back to us dear friend.
Glad you enjoy it. Have a great time!
Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.
The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.I'm afraid this is simply a case of a clash of opinions. A couple of responses:
1. It is absolutely not correct that "the reason people come to places like Germany is access to reasonably priced providers". You see people in all of these forums willing to fly from USA, Japan, UK, etc to Germany. It costs a lot to get here. Why fly all of this way? It's not for cheap prices. It is to be in a club surrounded by 100+ naked women you can mingle with before choosing. THAT is the reason tourists pay to come here, not for the price. By the time we add the cost of flights, hotels, taxis or PT, entry fee, the sex in Germany is actually no cheaper than elsewhere. Trust me, I can get a walk up in Soho London where a girl will give me sex for under £100. Far cheaper than incurring all the above cost. In a small town like say Blackburn you'the get that sex for even less. Low prices are not the attraction. Indeed, it might be said that the prices in Germany are very high. Take this as an example, let's say I hit Palace in Frankfurt. 75 entry, now 100/30 for a lot of the girls if you want BBBJ. Some will take 150/60. So it has cost me at least 225 for my first fuck. You think that's cheap compared to other destinations? It's not.
2. I would agree that people go to Asia for mainly the prices. But you referred to Artemis being a "dump of a club". I've been to places in Asia which make Artemis look like a 5 star hotel. Indeed there are not many places in Asia which are at all pleasant to be in. Take the horrendous rooms in Orchard Towers Singapore. And they are good compared to Thailand, Bali and Jakarta. They are Dumps of a Club.
3. If I want to price comparison that's my prerogative. People complain about the pricing these days. My point is simply that to expect to be able to have this wonderful experience of being surrounded by 100+ naked women to choose from, 120 an hour is really very cheap.
4. I've been to NRW which you cite many times. Maybe I go to the wrong places. But you don't get sexy girls, fabulous (not dumps) clubs and amazing service for 30/30 in Oceans, Samya, Mondale, Babylon, LR, or indeed anywhere else I can think of or have been. So please do share the details of the top end (not dump) clubs, with top girls, who look good, who are choosing to sell sex for 30/30 instead of earning 50/30 in the clubs I just listed. You must know some smaller venues where prices are this attractive and if they are nice places with decent LU options please do let me have their names. I would love to try them! I accept that small clubs can be attractive, and you can get a great surprise, for a reasonable price. I remember great sessions in Samya when it was 50/30/75/100. But Oceans opened and killed that second 30 for 25. If those sorts of prices still exist (you say 30/30) in some nice clubs, please let us know their names.
And Vive. I don't mention it out of irrelvance. It is a fabulous club in Madrid. You will rarely be amongst so many stunning 9/10 girls from literally all over the World (not just latinas / EE). Punters there are not there because they are "desperate" and paying overinflated prices. They attend because the chance to fuck that standard of girls, and so many of them in one place, is unique. You may not be interested to know about it, but with respect, you don't speak for everyone - "no one cares. ". Punters do like to make price comparisons. It is why these forums regularly contain comments about how much people charge.
Finally I am a little surprised you even saw my post on Artemis. Why on earth would you even be looking at / reading a forum at all of a club you describe as a "dump" you would "never set my foot in"?
120 an hour is not really very cheap. It is a higher pay, with far lower taxes than any job requiring a 5-year university degree. The price is only this high because of global politicians wanting p6 to be illegal. And we can probably disagree on the reasons why that is, but market forces would easily drop the 1 HR price to about 50 e if it was legal everywhere. And perhaps even half of that if we opened our borders to immigration from much poorer countries. It is all about supply and demand where legislation is a main driver.
100 naked girls? Give me a break? In a sane world without any prejudices, we should be allowed to have this at any public beach anywhere in the world. And they'd all be fine doing you publicly for 50 e or less.
Personally I'd rather be fucking on a beach with 0 entry cost than at a closed of FKK. As of there is anything to hide. But the world had been deceived by the devil, and he doesn't like nor allow sex. It is even in the bible if you read it the right way and understands the nephilim story correctly alongside some old Sumerian texts.
Evan with incredible wheelnut nipples and Natasha with lovely black fishnets and pierced nipples. But nice girls though they were they were not into my personal likes and dislikes and so we passed.
Lilia was lovely but too heavy for me. Evan. Incredible nipples and very intelligent. A solid 7 pushing 8/10. The facially very attractive red head Anabel.
Love that analogy "wheelnut nipples". She has one of the best pair of tits I've ever seen. Only problem is she won't let anyone lick them as she says that they are very sensitive and gives her the goose bumps when anyone tries. The only other girl that I have seen with similar pair of tits was Helli/Kelly of Sharks.
Interesting rating on Even/Evan. Currently the hottest girl for me at Artemis. For optics, I'll probably rate her a 8.5 pushing 9/10. I like the slim gazelle types over the curvaceous porn star type bodies. Service wise she has some restrictions so not totally surprised that you passed on her. Good to hear that she is still around.
Nice report.
Howie.
PinballMachine
07-19-19, 18:17
Love that analogy "wheelnut nipples". She has one of the best pair of tits I've ever seen. Only problem is she won't let anyone lick them as she says that they are very sensitive and gives her the goose bumps when anyone tries. The only other girl that I have seen with similar pair of tits was Helli/Kelly of Sharks.
Interesting rating on Even/Evan. Currently the hottest girl for me at Artemis. For optics, I'll probably rate her a 8.5 pushing 9/10. I like the slim gazelle types over the curvaceous porn star type bodies. Service wise she has some restrictions so not totally surprised that you passed on her. Good to hear that she is still around.
Nice report.
Howie.This Even girl what else does she look like? Blonde? Brunette? Blue eyes? Brown eyes? Nationality?
Thanks.
Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.
The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.I must agree with most just refine the dump of a club; the facility is not bad at all and we'll managed. All that has to with girls can be referred to as dump of a club, but yeah, sad reality.
And the most important is that most people like to go for half an hour and get a reasonable value for money: near zero chance to find. Most people don't want to spend 200 in the room. So, for the majority of clients, Artemis is a very difficult environment. I understand that guys like cheap sex. But its never going to be cheap in Artemis because of the 80 entry. I don't understand why any guy who just wants a quick 30 minute fuck to satisfy a need would go to an FKK at all. There a far better looking escorts in brothels which charge no entry fee. So even if you got incredibly lucky at Artemis and found a girl who gave great service for 30 minutes for 60, you'the have paid 140 for that 30 minutes due to having paid 80 to enter. Why do that? You can go to some bordellos in Berlin with flat rate 80 entry and you can fuck up to 4 girls for as long as you want. Or if you prefer a really pretty girl, pay an escort who might charge 150 for an hour but is on a higher level than most girls in FKKs.
I think most guys who go to FKKs want more than one quick 30 min session but then I'm a tourist so that's what I do and see. But if it was really all about 30 min sessions and out you wouldn't see the same guy in the club all night.
There is no doubting whatsoever that the average age in this club has gone up. But it was always higher than in NRW and Hessen, always had more silicones and girls with tattoos. I don't see that much has changed at all. Not because I have my eyes closed but because it's like it always was save for two exceptions which are that there were also a lot more younger girls mixed in than there are now and it was easier years ago to get girls going to the room for 60 with all included.
The law change in 2017 gave girls an opportunity to upsell. They do it in Artemis but they do it in a lot of other clubs too. And in some (Hamburg / Munich) it has long been the case that BBBJ is an extra you pay for. What is perhaps sad is that 5 years ago you could take a girl to the room for only 30 minutes and expect decent service. Now that is less available but I think that's the case in most clubs. I was in Palace last month and very few girls would even entertain 30 min sessions.
Ultimately you get what you pay for. I don't think FKK sex is cheap when the entry price is included. But as I posted previously. Certainly for tourists. We don't go for cheap sex, we go for the experience of being surrounded by a lot of naked women all available for sex.
I certainly haven't been to Artemis for the last time. I had two great nights there this week with many options. And I am not into old / ugly / fat girls.
100 naked girls? Give me a break? In a sane world without any prejudices, we should be allowed to have this at any public beach anywhere in the world. And they'd all be fine doing you publicly for 50 e or less.
Personally I'd rather be fucking on a beach with 0 entry cost than at a closed of FKK. So would we all. But if you can tell me the name of a beach with 100+ naked women all ready to fuck you there and then for 50 e or less I'll be packing my bag! Until then. I'll continue heading to FKKs!
Member #4733
07-20-19, 10:32
in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service.I went to several clubs in NRW, but haven't found this price structure. Could you please tell me which clubs I would have to go to?
I understand that guys like cheap sex. But its never going to be cheap in Artemis because of the 80 entry. I don't understand why any guy who just wants a quick 30 minute fuck to satisfy a need would go to an FKK at all. There a far better looking escorts in brothels which charge no entry fee. So even if you got incredibly lucky at Artemis and found a girl who gave great service for 30 minutes for 60, you'the have paid 140 for that 30 minutes due to having paid 80 to enter. Why do that? You can go to some bordellos in Berlin with flat rate 80 entry and you can fuck up to 4 girls for as long as you want. Or if you prefer a really pretty girl, pay an escort who might charge 150 for an hour but is on a higher level than most girls in FKKs..Carla should be 34-35 and that is old.
People have preferences and monetary considerations. For example, some people cum quickly and don't need more time and some people can't afford to pay more than 60, but want to enjoy the facility and have a whole day experience. Not all people that go to FKK are placed into the same bucket. They are segmented into many layers. One of the common things across these layers is people can't afford more than 60 or don't want more than 69 euro rooms for various reasons. In this world you are an outlier and that's OK. Also, maybe you don't know the difference: like I said visit NRW and then let us know how you feel. However, as a person with an FKK sample size that is measured every week, Artemis, is down from its glory days. 2009 was amazing. 2012 was great. 2015 the decline started. 2019, for most long time Artemis fans, it is simply sad to see the downward spiral. Again, truly happy you enjoyed. A me people like money domination, I don't judge them. All the best, dear friend.
This Even girl what else does she look like? Blonde? Brunette? Blue eyes? Brown eyes? Nationality?
Thanks.Even is tall, skinny, has fake tits with nice big nipples, dark hair. She is Romanian. Around 25 years old.
The facially very attractive red head Anabel. But wait for it. She was too skinny for me!Hi PayForIt,
Red head Anabel? Does she has long reddish dreadlocks? She is German, tall, skinny, fake tits, around 25 years old?
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