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Whether? End of May, Berlin had 10 ish new confirmed cases per day. Now near 200 almost every day this week. This is classic tragedy of commons problem; individual gain hurts larger group overall. As one of only FKKs open, men coming from all over. More and more research shows airborne transmission key, and particles can remain airborn between 30-120 min. Uncertain but key part of new research as very important. Air flow in rooms, showers, even main room by bar not sufficient exchange. Asymptomatic guests, girls, etc. Sorry but this is receipe for spread and disaster. You see everywhere in Spain, France, Switzerland, US (Texas, Florida, California) what happens when people just stop serious thinking. Only matter of time before this bites us hard. Please use big head brain, not little loveworm brain. Not easy being adult sometimes.This is ridiculous, you can stay at home wasting your life while the rest of us are living life. A wise man once said: "It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep. " Or as another wise man wrote: "I'd rather die standing up than live life on my knees". Amen!
SimonSays911
09-26-20, 21:17
Beginning to think I'm cursed.
Was turned away due to my temperature. This despite me feeling fine and displaying no symptoms.
I know it's a precaution. Just glad I didn't make a special trip to Berlin.
So many Rassa in FKK land. Never noticed at Samya.Along with Maggie and Emmanuela, Raissa moved from Oceans to Artemis nearly 2 years ago. And the kept their names in both clubs.
As a side note to McA: I believe you told me once that Palace Maggie had moved to Artemis. But its Oceans Maggie. As I met the three at Artemis last fall. Palace Maggie is still at Palace. Or at least she was last fall. No idea now due to corona and hessen still being closed.
PdP. Don't need help, thanks. Appreciate ExPat comments. Shoobree - did not realize that going to Artemis is really living life, but good to know. Ninja try one time more only to offer reasons why this not political freedom issue.
German testing been good for many many months so argument that uptick in numbers "due to testing" not true. Numbers up everywhere in EU. Yes for moment mostly young people, and treatment getting better so death rates holding. In certain cities already ITC / ICU beds under stress. Young people also meet older people, and in any case there are lags after spikes. Look at USA, Spain, French, Swiss, UK data last 3 weeks. And we just now begin cold weather. Plus people now going to FKK on both sides know risks are much higher than normal. It means both mongers and girls are by nature higher risk takers, which makes situation even riskier. Berlin Senate meets next Tues to debate whether tightening needed. Bars, restaurants, and no doubt bordellos will be discussed.
Just wanted to inject realism into "whoopy, back to fucking" reports. Pandemic is different; not just you make your choice for yourself and then you alone reap consequences. Choice is individual; consequence is social. And of course when shit hits fan, everyone expects "criminal" governments to step up and pick up pieces and inject massive bailouts to protect jobs and health system and fund vaccine development.
Ninja really miss the good old days. Many great times at A. Many friends there. Just now is not the time. Maybe with proven vaccine, next summer..Funny that you hang around this site if going to clubs as Artemis isn't a part of life that you enjoy. You might be in the wrong forum. It seems to me that most things would be forbidden if you scaredy-cats had it your way.
I don't know if you've noticed, but you have the bad habit of referring to yourself in third person, it's extremely annoying.
Anyways, I don't want my obituary to say that I "lived" in quarantine from 2020 to my death. That would be pathetic. I've got nothing to fear from this virus. I won't waste my life.
Beginning to think I'm cursed.
Was turned away due to my temperature. This despite me feeling fine and displaying no symptoms.
I know it's a precaution. Just glad I didn't make a special trip to Berlin.*shudder* imagine making the trip from another country and having this happen!
This is ridiculous, you can stay at home wasting your life while the rest of us are living life. A wise man once said: "It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep. " Or as another wise man wrote: "I'd rather die standing up than live life on my knees". Amen!Don't know about that wise man, I don't mind being on my knees all my life banging chicks in a doggie, LOL. Especially if I can smack that ass a little every few minutes haha.
Whether? End of May, Berlin had 10 ish new confirmed cases per day. Now near 200 almost every day this week. This is classic tragedy of commons problem; individual gain hurts larger group overall. As one of only FKKs open, men coming from all over. More and more research shows airborne transmission key, and particles can remain airborne between 30-120 min. Please use big head brain, not little loveworm brain. Not easy being adult sometimes.
EL: fully online with you, I would like to do some inquiry concerning the guys queuing, what are they thinking about. Today Germany has the highest infections since April, cases are also skyrocketing in Roumania where 95% of the girls are coming from, but nothing can stop the guys, I am more and more disappointed about the human beings.As I have stated previously: to each their own. I fully respect the guys who say they will stay away whilst the virus is running wild in society. I have a slightly different viewpoint. I want to live my life to the full. I'm not prepared to put it on hold if I do not need to. And I consider I do not need to. So my big head rather than small head made this decision. There are other options if it was just small head. Escort one to one = easy. I didn't want that. I like to be amongst 60+ naked or near naked women. I'm glad FKKs are open.
C19 numbers are not going up (just or at all) because of FKKs. They go up when there is any form of social interaction. Teenagers have parties - 100's of people. Numbers increase. Are they more entitled to life their lives than me? If I choose to stay indoors to keep safe and my children in their early 20's come home and give me the virus is that fair? Shall we all just remain locked up for 5 years hoping it will go away? it will be there waiting for us!
The queues outside Artemis are there for a reason: there are a lot of people with the same mindset as me. Guys who want to live my life to the full whilst they have it - not knowing in these uncertain times how long that will be. In the unfortunate event I get the virus (for a second time. I had it in March 2020) in the next six months and die, I will forever be happy that I didn't waste my final days indoors frightened to go out and scared of my own shadow. Since the pandemic began I have been to 8 different countries. I have enjoyed every trip. More business than pleasure but happy to be travelling. There are many more illnesses killing far more people than this virus. We have become obsessed with it.
If you consider it depressing to read reports from people who DO want to enjoy mongering at the moment, may I respectfully suggest you don't read them! Do what makes you happy. If that's staying at home and staying away from mongering exploits to stay 100% safe, that is your choice. But attending Artemis, Harmony, (and others) and seeing, then having sex with pretty young girls and enjoying their bodies is very much my choice. I don't force them to be there. They are all saying they are worried about a second closure. They WANT and need to work. I want to assist them in doing so! It's mutually beneficial.
As a precaution only, I volunteered to get tested at the airport on the return home. Happily negative again. Maybe I just got lucky. But you are as likely to get the virus in a McDonalds as you are in an FKK. Berlin airport (soon to be Brandenburg) was absolutely packed with thousands of people. The line queuing for security was long. Not a hint of social distancing in sight. Again, as likely to be infected there as in an FKK.
So let's agree to leave each person to make their own life choices. If mine kill me earlier than they should have done that's for me. If I visit an environment where everyone else chose to visit I am not killing others. They made the same choice. And for everyone who decided against going, and who remains indoors, they have no risk of catching anything from me as they have self-isolated and protected themselves. Good luck to them - I am happy they have peace of mind.
These are not easy times, and the truth is that the supposed might of the world's scientific brilliance has failed us. We don't know if masks 100% work or not (why not?) We don't know how long you get immunity for if you had covid (why not?) We don't know when there will be a successful vaccine (why not?) We don't know for sure if you can be re-infected or what that actually means (why not?) Amidst so much confusion and lack of definitive scientific knowledge, all we can do is try to balance our choices. I sanitise a lot, I wear a mask (no idea if it helps but I'm willing to hope), but I am not giving my life up to Covid unless it takes it from me. I am a responsible human being. When I got the virus I isolated completely for 21 days to make 100% sure I didn't infect anyone else. But I also like my pleasures in life. And during these troubling times, I want to make sure I get the most out of whatever time I have left: be that a lot, or a little.
I also think it helps mentally to "escape" for a bit. And for the hours I was in Artemis, other than the masks, I actually felt I had returned to normal life for a bit on Friday night.
Keep safe, but have fun my fellow forum members - however you choose to create that fun.
ExpatLover
09-27-20, 10:52
Mister PayForit: imagine that one of your close family member (parent, grand parent.) catches the Covid from a guy who just spend 5 days in FKK, that he / she is getting seriously sick (even worse) what will be your opinion? I am just sticking that during this terrible time for so many people, we mongers have also to give a positive example by just stopping to visit prostitutes, not just thinking about our little friend (dick) but to the global community.
Beginning to think I'm cursed.
Was turned away due to my temperature. This despite me feeling fine and displaying no symptoms.
I know it's a precaution. Just glad I didn't make a special trip to Berlin.How high temperature? To get refused. I remember at Sharks on 14 March, with I think 35.7, they thought their thermometer didn't work, when just normal when cold weather. On intense effort under heat, when you lose body water, then your body temperature go higher and you lose strength with muscles becoming harder and heart also working harder.
TeddyBears
09-27-20, 12:13
Thanks PFI for a few really good reports as usual, oh god I miss Artemis!
Will be back ay CDS next week so let's see what's happening at E92.
PumDiPum. Totally agree with your opinions.
The form filling is a bit of a joke.So after a session you head down to the reception and notify them of who you sessioned with?
So after a session you head down to the reception and notify them of who you sessioned with?No. Not after the session. You get a form when you enter. You must complete it with your name and number. You then have to tell the guy on the door which girls you went to a room with. So no excuses for ISG members to report and not remember the names of girls!
No. Not after the session. You get a form when you enter. You must complete it with your name and number. You then have to tell the guy on the door which girls you went to a room with. So no excuses for ISG members to report and not remember the names of girls!I ask girls name in FKK, but I still forget most of their names LOL It is fake names anyways LOL.
I guess it is to call you if the girls get infected after your visit to her pussy etc.
It is good system to keep the service quality actually if Artemis management care about service in room!
In the unfortunate event I get the virus (for a second time. I had it in March 2020)You already had it? What was that experience like? Tia.
Mister PayForit: imagine that one of your close family member (parent, grand parent.) catches the Covid from a guy who just spend 5 days in FKK, that he / she is getting seriously sick (even worse) what will be your opinion? I am just sticking that during this terrible time for so many people, we mongers have also to give a positive example by just stopping to visit prostitutes, not just thinking about our little friend (dick) but to the global community.I can't claim to know PFI's circumstances, but there will doubtlessly be some mongers for whom the risk of passing it on is relatively low.
Generally, I'd just tell people to seriously evaluate your risks. What are you going to be doing the week or so after your FKK trip? If you know you're not really doing much that week and mostly keeping to yourself, heading to FKKs probably isn't that risky. If you're expecting to see elderly family members, or be going to big crowded events, you're being really dangerous and irresponsible.
And of course, if a major COVID outbreak gets traced back to an FKK, they're probably going to shut them all down again for several more months.
I'm not saying people shouldn't go, but take some responsibility if you do.
ExpatLover
09-28-20, 04:31
I will never understand why we always have to act following the covid regulations, we know that the different governments are not acting properly to protect the people, more important for them is to protect the business and therefor their power and re election. All the restaurants, bars, night clubs, fitness centers. Should be closed until the end of the pandemic, same for sport events, cinema. All the none essentials activities. Is it possible to apply? Obviously not for the moment but the situation is getting worse and worse and for sure new measures will be implemented to restrict the spread of the virus. Nobody knows how long the virus can survive on clothes, door handles, hair. In the air and still be active probably far longer than already imagine. For sure all the measures are too weak or why the second wave is already there with a exceptional Indian summer in Europe and when so many so called specialists were saying may be a second wave could happen at the end of the winter. I still believe that visiting prostitutes is a none essential activity at high risk by essence, a lot of customers with unknow status, impossible to clean the premises between each monger, impossible also for the girl to be completely without potential virus on her skin, hair. Not enough air renewal. I don t need to wait for the authorities to tell me what to do, I am old enough and I will not visit any prostitutes until I consider the situation is safe.
You already had it? What was that experience like? Tia.Most healthy don't even notice they get. This is problem with young and why they don t care much about, but can be a danger for their older relatives.
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SimonSays911
09-28-20, 18:39
How high temperature? To get refused. I remember at Sharks on 14 March, with I think 35.7, they thought their thermometer didn't work, when just normal when cold weather. On intense effort under heat, when you lose body water, then your body temperature go higher and you lose strength with muscles becoming harder and heart also working harder.I never asked in all honesty. The guy just said "too high, not allowed".
I'm stormed off as I could feel myself getting annoyed and clearly I wasn't going to make a scene.
Rambambinoz
09-28-20, 19:13
This was my first post covid reopening visit to an FKK and was my first on a Saturday. Priority boarding on flights has been scrapped for a more sensible back 5 rows go first, then next 5 to minimise risk. Masks must be worn at all times apart from eating / drinking and the airline provide a small pack of sanitation wipes and gel. 2,90€ single fare by public transport on a very empty bus but slightly more used ubahn, plenty of space to have an empty seat beside you and two empty ones opposite.
When I entered the front porch door at Artemis, they test your temperature and ask to complete a form with email and phone number, name is checked against ID and there's a space at the bottom to eventually note the girls names before you leave. You can then proceed to the reception to pay the new 90€ fee, collect gown and wristbands (plastic one for entry and sanitized rubber one for keeping tabs of when they hit max 250 capacity).
Sensor activated sanitation stations are just outside the kitchen and bottom of the stairs. All rooms have open windows, sanitisers, packs of gloves and bed sheets are completely changed by the girl. It's good manners to ask if you can remove your mask when you enter the room and also gives them piece of mind that you take health seriously. Breakfast and dinner choices vary daily and are from set menus served by staff but they are flexible. Motorised windows open periodically to bring in fresh air.
Nicole (CZE) tall size 10, blonde, natural looking but firm 34 e, 7 facially with big lips. Just had to grab her arse as she led me up the stairs and she trapped my hand firmly there till we entered the room. I hadn't experienced much action for months due to lockdown so came very quickly during a covered BJ, but I knew this would happen and made sure I could worship those tits between my mouth and cock for a sufficient time before shooting my load. 70€.
Lily (GER) slim, size 8, natural 34 D, blonde, just 1 unnoticeable tat on side, facially stunning 9. She came over and sat with me in the lounge chatting for 10 mins about my prior visits and all the refurbishment that's occurred during the time they were closed. In the room, she started by sitting above me fondling my balls before commencing a slow covered BJ and slow sensual sex in cowgirl position maintaining eye contact throughout. She has the most amazing perfect natural boobs I've ever encountered and every time I groped them she would grab my hand and guide me how to squeeze and more firmly. Just as I was about to cum, she adjusted her strokes to a faster tempo for a better orgasm. Lily was trying to go as slow as possible and it was just about perfect level of pleasure before I eventually finished. General chit chat for maybe 10 mins afterwards. 70€.
It picked up a bit when I returned to the lounge, a German guy joined me and we discussed our FKK experiences as well as all this brexit bullshit. It was really good to learn from the experiences of a native German who has similar appreciation of the FKK scene, value for money and what the other clubs in different cities have to offer.
Salomey (DOM) size 10, big natural 34 F, black hair, facially 7, Latino Spanish accent. I decided I needed another shower and when I returned Salomey was sat on a stool beside the sofa me and my new German friend were occupying. She kept saying sexy stuff in Spanish and I was sold. She pushed for OWO at 20€ extra but I refused. While she was giving me the BJ she whipped out some oil and asked me to rub it over her firm arse. Sex in cowgirl until I came to some dirty Spanish words. Left the room after the deed and bed sheets were changed. 70€.
Ginger (ROM) size 8, medium brown hair, natural looking 32 D but quite firm to hold, quite tanned almost Indian looking, facially 8. I was struggling to find another girl I found attractive but then I noticed Ginger walking around and I approached her while I had the chance. She suggested sitting down to talk first so she could finish her drink and then we went to the room. Really good covered BJ with all kinds of variation for maybe 10 mins, eventually I asked for sex but she could have kept going and wasn't in any rush. She then rode me in the cowgirl position, keeping eye contact throughout and leaned in for a small kiss a few times until I came. Spent around 15 mins talking afterwards. 70€.
By around 12 am I was looking around hard for another girl I liked, but knew it could be my last of the visit so eventually chose to approach a girl that caught my eye much earlier in the evening. Although when I got close enough to speak with her, she didn't seem as attractive and thankfully my mask hid my disappointment. I pretended to struggle with my English and made a daft excuse to escape. Even though I was hard enough to go again, there just wasn't enough choice so decided to call it a night. I wrote the girls names on the paper and passed it to the security as I left, wristband and key just drop into a box / bowl of disinfectant near the exit.
The owners have made a few upgrades and refurbishments. The bar area has new carpet, there are new sofas to replace those long curved beds either side of the stripper pole. A few other centerpieces here and there. The kinos show decent American porn now and not old 90's German porn.
During my whole visit I felt very safe, I actually think it's more risky going to the supermarket where half the people don't wear masks or sanitize and none are temperature checked. If you forget to put your mask back on while walking, you will be politely reminded by a girl straight away. I think the management have done really well to make it as safe as possible and I actually enjoyed this visit as much as any other, but that's partly because of the reports from others and consequently knowing what to expect.
Rambambinoz -- Wow, super report! Thank you.
NegotiateHard
09-29-20, 04:23
Rambambinoz. Did you yourself request all CBJs or were some of these girls you took refusing OWO?
I never asked in all honesty. The guy just said "too high, not allowed".
I'm stormed off as I could feel myself getting annoyed and clearly I wasn't going to make a scene.I always ask how much they find, like with polizei for alcohol. You should be higher than 37,5 .
This was my first post covid reopening visit to an FKK and was my first on a Saturday.......Such a great report, thank you!
SimonSays911
09-29-20, 22:05
I always ask how much they find, like with polizei for alcohol. You should be higher than 37,5.I've been tested for temperature in the UK in hospital and they told me.
It was just an odd situation for me. I never expected a problem and just wanted to be away from the club.
I was in Berlin for business so it wasn't an issue. But I'm now back in the UK feeling fine.
You already had it? What was that experience like? Tia.Apologies for the delayed response (not logged in for a few days). Don't want to hog the Artemis thread with Covid but in short, obviously not a pleasant experience but I was only mildly affected, fever for 2 days, the long coughing lasted over 4 weeks, some breathing issues and loss of taste. Isolated completely for 21 days. Re-tested negative. Did antibody test (had them with some immunity but for how long it is not possible yet to say). Very lucky compared to many others.
Apologies for the delayed response (not logged in for a few days). Don't want to hog the Artemis thread with Covid but in short, obviously not a pleasant experience but I was only mildly affected, fever for 2 days, the long coughing lasted over 4 weeks, some breathing issues and loss of taste. Isolated completely for 21 days. Re-tested negative. Did antibody test (had them with some immunity but for how long it is not possible yet to say). Very lucky compared to many others.And you went to Artemis after? LOL This could destroy Artemis if some authority read this thread!
Rambambinoz. Did you yourself request all CBJs or were some of these girls you took refusing OWO?I read that BBBJ is extra 20 euro in Artemis now, which is not bad deal!
But they just raised the price for entry to 90 euro and also standard session to 70 euro! Is this permanent or temporary during covid 19 crisis?
I ask girls name in FKK, but I still forget most of their names LOL It is fake names anyways LOL.
I took a pen with me and wrote the names down in the room. I always forget as well.
And you went to Artemis after? LOL This could destroy Artemis if some authority read this thread!He said he had it in March so no problems with going to Artemis in September, they should welcome him as he's less likely to have it again.
Ginger (ROM) size 8, medium brown hair, natural looking 32 D but quite firm to hold, quite tanned almost Indian looking, facially 8. I was struggling to find another girl I found attractive but then I noticed Ginger walking around and I approached her while I had the chance. She suggested sitting down to talk first so she could finish her drink and then we went to the room. Really good covered BJ with all kinds of variation for maybe 10 mins, eventually I asked for sex but she could have kept going and wasn't in any rush. She then rode me in the cowgirl position, keeping eye contact throughout and leaned in for a small kiss a few times until I came. Spent around 15 mins talking afterwards. 70.
I met Ginger on Sunday, looks wise her breasts were far bigger than I'd normally go with, she seemed nice when she came to speak to me but I had my eye on another girl. When I went to speak to the other girl, she was very cold and not friendly so went back to Ginger. Great BJ as you said, I could have easily come in her mouth but she told me she doesn't like it.
Rambambinoz
09-30-20, 21:11
I read that BBBJ is extra 20 euro in Artemis now, which is not bad deal!
But they just raised the price for entry to 90 euro and also standard session to 70 euro! Is this permanent or temporary during covid 19 crisis?Correct, they are now only allowed to charge extra 20 for OWO. To be honest, you can probably negotiate it to be inclusive of the 70 since there are such restricted volume of customers allowed and they can't really turn it down. Just as long as you agree before going to the room. I would only insist on OWO if I was having 1-2 hour sessions with 1 girl, which I can do with independent girls any time. My plan in FKK is to abstain for 1 week prior and have multiple sessions, so I don't really need OWO to get hard or to enjoy it.
Yes Ginger has this cute but sexy look, also great company. Just as she finished riding me to an orgasm, her smart watch notified her that she'd just hit 10,000 steps which was quite funny.
Also worth mentioning that cleaners patrol the changing room to clean / disinfect any empty lockers from departing guests straight away, so try to just leave it open upon leaving otherwise it might get missed. Only just realized on what is my 6th visit that they have different sizes flip flops to wear! I've been taking a pair 2 sizes too big all this time without realizing! Epic fail!
And you went to Artemis after? LOL This could destroy Artemis if some authority read this thread!I had the virus in late February early March Mr Ho! I very much doubt I still had it when I went to Artemis over 6-7 months later!
He said he had it in March so no problems with going to Artemis in September, they should welcome him as he's less likely to have it again.Late Feb early March to be precise. And you are right. Chance of reinfection is very low (though apparently not impossible). Would be interesting to know though if you were asked if you ever had it would they refuse entry or welcome you! It matters not. I was tested when arriving in Germany at the airport (just in case), and was negative and had antibody test which showed antibodies and some immunity even after 6-7 months, which is encouraging.
Correct, they are now only allowed to charge extra 20 for OWO. To be honest, you can probably negotiate it to be inclusive of the 70 since there are such restricted volume of customers allowed and they can't really turn it down. Just as long as you agree before going to the room. I would only insist on OWO if I was having 1-2 hour sessions with 1 girl, which I can do with independent girls any time. My plan in FKK is to abstain for 1 week prior and have multiple sessions, so I don't really need OWO to get hard or to enjoy it.
Yes Ginger has this cute but sexy look, also great company. Just as she finished riding me to an orgasm, her smart watch notified her that she'd just hit 10,000 steps which was quite funny.
Also worth mentioning that cleaners patrol the changing room to clean / disinfect any empty lockers from departing guests straight away, so try to just leave it open upon leaving otherwise it might get missed. Only just realized on what is my 6th visit that they have different sizes flip flops to wear! I've been taking a pair 2 sizes too big all this time without realizing! Epic fail!One thing I do prefer in FKK is price to be fixed, so extra 20 euro for good BBBJ is reasonable! I hope it stay like this and become standard price of 20 euro good BBBJ! It is better than each time you have to negotiate in annoying way that kills mood and make me want to just bang and leave the room feeling! This way girls lose money too! If they want us to go to room for one hour, they have to make us feel that way too or we just go for 30 min standard rate!
70/30, extra for natural BJ, what about kissing? I mean DFK.
ExpatLover
10-01-20, 07:47
Fix prices is against the new law of 2017, the girls are solo entrepreneurs and are free to fix the prices like in any business.
One thing I do prefer in FKK is price to be fixed, so extra 20 euro for good BBBJ is reasonable! I hope it stay like this and become standard price of 20 euro good BBBJ! It is better than each time you have to negotiate in annoying way that kills mood and make me want to just bang and leave the room feeling! This way girls lose money too! If they want us to go to room for one hour, they have to make us feel that way too or we just go for 30 min standard rate!There are problems with this extra 20. Firstly, other than in Artemis, and the Hamburg clubs (where even before the July 2017 law change the girls charged extra for BBBJ) most other clubs do not have this rule. Oh sure for a couple of months post the new law girls saw the upsell opportunity and tried it, but at Sharks for example, it died off quickly and BBBJ was considered a normal part of the package. Especially if you booked a normal room for 100/ hour instead of a 30 minutes room. By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I know some stunners in some clubs say this is their price anyway. And that is a decision for each punter, but I don't like this trend, and I don't want to see it extend to other clubs. For that reason, it would be great if everyone just refused for a few months and said "no I'll just have CBJ then". I have no doubt at all that after a couple of months they'the drop the demand. Or even better, in the lounge "do you do BBBJ included in the normal price of 140/ hour?" If no. Find another girl who will. I did this with my final room last week and of course the answer was yes because the girl wanted the hour.
Once we start having a fixed price for BBBJ (as there always has been for anal and CIM), I think you'll see the menu expand (so a price for DFK, a price for DATY etc.) and what is to stop them then saying its not 20 it has gone up to 30. So now think of this in Artemis, room price one hour 140, BBBJ 30, DFK 30, DATY 30, Anal 100 and CIM 50. You just paid 380 for an hour. That an extra 110 than normal for an hour - (30 x3 plus the extra 20 on the increase from 120 to 140 now). At those prices I might prefer to go to a very high end escort stunner for 400/ hour. And nothing to stop the 30 becoming 40 and so on.
I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.
There are problems with this extra 20. Firstly, other than in Artemis, and the Hamburg clubs (where even before the July 2017 law change the girls charged extra for BBBJ) most other clubs do not have this rule. Oh sure for a couple of months post the new law girls saw the upsell opportunity and tried it, but at Sharks for example, it died off quickly and BBBJ was considered a normal part of the package. Especially if you booked a normal room for 100/ hour instead of a 30 minutes room. By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I know some stunners in some clubs say this is their price anyway. And that is a decision for each punter, but I don't like this trend, and I don't want to see it extend to other clubs. For that reason, it would be great if everyone just refused for a few months and said "no I'll just have CBJ then". I have no doubt at all that after a couple of months they'the drop the demand. Or even better, in the lounge "do you do BBBJ included in the normal price of 140/ hour?" If no. Find another girl who will. I did this with my final room last week and of course the answer was yes because the girl wanted the hour.
Once we start having a fixed price for BBBJ (as there always has been for anal and CIM), I think you'll see the menu expand (so a price for DFK, a price for DATY etc.) and what is to stop them then saying its not 20 it has gone up to 30. So now think of this in Artemis, room price one hour 140, BBBJ 30, DFK 30, DATY 30, Anal 100 and CIM 50. You just paid 380 for an hour. That an extra 110 than normal for an hour - (30 x3 plus the extra 20 on the increase from 120 to 140 now). At those prices I might prefer to go to a very high end escort stunner for 400/ hour. And nothing to stop the 30 becoming 40 and so on.
I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.
I think extra 20 euro for whole GFE package, BBBJ, DFK and usual DATY and fuck! So 90 euro 30 min sound fair enough!
There are problems with this extra 20. Firstly, other than in Artemis, and the Hamburg clubs (where even before the July 2017 law change the girls charged extra for BBBJ) most other clubs do not have this rule. Oh sure for a couple of months post the new law girls saw the upsell opportunity and tried it, but at Sharks for example, it died off quickly and BBBJ was considered a normal part of the package. Especially if you booked a normal room for 100/ hour instead of a 30 minutes room. By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I know some stunners in some clubs say this is their price anyway. And that is a decision for each punter, but I don't like this trend, and I don't want to see it extend to other clubs. For that reason, it would be great if everyone just refused for a few months and said "no I'll just have CBJ then". I have no doubt at all that after a couple of months they'the drop the demand. Or even better, in the lounge "do you do BBBJ included in the normal price of 140/ hour?" If no. Find another girl who will. I did this with my final room last week and of course the answer was yes because the girl wanted the hour.
Once we start having a fixed price for BBBJ (as there always has been for anal and CIM), I think you'll see the menu expand (so a price for DFK, a price for DATY etc.) and what is to stop them then saying its not 20 it has gone up to 30. So now think of this in Artemis, room price one hour 140, BBBJ 30, DFK 30, DATY 30, Anal 100 and CIM 50. You just paid 380 for an hour. That an extra 110 than normal for an hour - (30 x3 plus the extra 20 on the increase from 120 to 140 now). At those prices I might prefer to go to a very high end escort stunner for 400/ hour. And nothing to stop the 30 becoming 40 and so on.
I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.For a while girls were wanting to charge 50 euros extra for a BBBJ! Sure, 20 is better than 50, but considering the long-term standard of BBBJs being included in the base price, both levels of upcharge "suck" (pun intended).
Nooky Ninja
10-01-20, 11:03
By the time you've paid 140 for an hour now in Artemis, plus the 20, and take into account the entry fee, we are getting to not far off 200 per hour. I love the FKK model / platform, let's not have it killed off by silly greed.Probably scores even hundreds of Berlin girls, independent or in private bordellos flats, as or more attractive than Artemis choices for 100-120 / hour. Maybe see 5 men per day. No meal, no pool, no sports studio, no ambiance etc. But Much cheaper, lower Covid risk. Of course, not 0 risk.
Yesterday, Berlin had 288 new cases. Was below 10/ day in June. https://www.berlin.de/corona/lagebericht/ Still say perform "Doctor question test" before going to FKK.
Alessandro527
10-01-20, 19:21
If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.
I think extra 20 euro for whole GFE package, BBBJ, DFK and usual DATY and fuck! So 90 euro 30 min sound fair enough!There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.
There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.Now there's something to learn from you. I'm going to use this tactic for any upsell going forward. Thanks man.
There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.I thought to make a run to test car, to discover, but I always refuse HJ and CBJ, I hate grocery talk which kill my desire and need fluent kissing.
If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.
There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off!
We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!
There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.Why pay extra for BBBJ? They are still included as late as this year for me. OK, I have taken some 100 E sessions for an hour but that was more for DFK than BBBJ. I have received BBBJ in 50 E sessions in 2019 for sure. Only one trip this year and I can't remember if I did any 50 E sessions or if all of them were 100 E for an hour. What I do know is that I have never paid extra money for BBBJ.
I have taken longer sessions than 30 min for the sake of DFK. That has not been a huge change because even a few years ago there were some girls who did not give up DFK in 30 M and needed additional incentive and taking longer sessions was the way for me.
I would hate to pay any extra for BBBJ alone. If the rates become 150 for an hour with BBBJ I would be quite upset.
There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.She is bullshitting LOL! If that is the case, I ain't paying a penny!
I was in Artemis last summer, service was good to me, but Artemis service went down after corona crisis, but hey Artemis raise the price for all including entrance! Service should improve!
I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off!
We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!You won't be getting anything for 60 euros. Minimum now is 70/30 without BBBJ.
I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off! We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!I don't do 30 minute sessions. I like to do at least an hour. That way I don't feel like I need to be rushing around to get what I want.
There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.So when did FKK's start recruiting from the most obscure eastern European strip clubs?
Way to totally kill off the hobby. I avoid certain strip clubs I have been to like the pest. Like in Riga and Prague. (Ukrainian strip clubs are better though).
I don't do 30 minute sessions. I like to do at least an hour. That way I don't feel like I need to be rushing around to get what I want.I do 30 min sometimes to see how she is in room, then I will repeat one hour if she is good next day or bit later when she return from shower after my first session LOL!
You won't be getting anything for 60 euros. Minimum now is 70/30 without BBBJ.Right, price increased, I do not mind as long as there is good service returned for price increased, but I must say Artemis has aggressive stance on their price strategy considering their service level to be not as good as NRW clubs! Unless you pay up.
PinballMachine
10-05-20, 12:57
So entrance 90 € and 30 minute basic session is 70 € which sums up to 160 €. Quite expensive for a rushed quick session with condom blow job and probably not the best performance by the girl either.
So entrance 90 and 30 minute basic session is 70 which sums up to 160 . Quite expensive for a rushed quick session with condom blow job and probably not the best performance by the girl either.Absolutely correct. The only way it is worthwhile visiting the club if you have time to spend several hours, choose your girl (s) carefully and are able to do 1 hour+ rooms so you get the full treatment. But even then I found it very hard to persuade anyone to do BBBJ without paying the extra 20 e. It appears this has become a club standard. Artemis was never a cheap option. As has been reported here many times. Until there is another competing FKK in Berlin this will go unchecked.
Berlin said today bars, restaurants and shops will have to shut down between 11 pm To 6 am From October 10th. Assume Artemis will have to close between those times as well but it didn't mention brothel specifically.
Berlin said today bars, restaurants and shops will have to shut down between 11 pm To 6 am From October 10th. Assume Artemis will have to close between those times as well but it didn't mention brothel specifically.Always curious by the restrictions thought some of the people limit would apply too. But what will be interesting is people coming from Romania will now have to quarantine pending a negative coronavirus test, don't know how well that's enforced and if girls can quarantine at the club.
Berlin said today bars, restaurants and shops will have to shut down between 11 pm To 6 am From October 10th. Assume Artemis will have to close between those times as well but it didn't mention brothel specifically.Isn't it register as a sauna club?
Artemis may be able to get away with staying open if they close the bar and the food at those time slots. What a ridiculous bunch on nonsense.You are correct, that is exactly what has happened.
You are correct, that is exactly what has happened.True, is kind of crazy. But still, I think it's amazing that the club can continue to operate normally. In my region the clubs never re-opened since March. People who govern Berlin seem to be really reasonable. Prostitution will happen anyway, it would just be illegal and much more unsafe. I hope nothing changes this week, because my trip to Berlin is already planned. Again, kind of crazy. But these are crazy times.
I still don't really know why anyone NOT intending to go to an FKK until this is all over (possibly meaning for the rest of their lives) are continuing to visit forums for people who are intending to go. Entirely their prerogative of course, but a bit like deciding to go to an Italian restaurant even though you don't eat Italian food! Really quite odd!Because we miss it? LOL. Living vicariously, reading excellent reports such as yours! Of course, keep in mind all the clubs were completely shut for 4,5 months but that does not mean the forum should have come to a halt in those days. As I said in reply to Turgid, health concern is only one aspect of it for me; many other things need to fall into place before I can visit these clubs. In the meanwhile, chatting with likeminded people keeps whetting my appetite. Not that I need that much whetting; as it is I feel like I am famished LOL.
You are too nice PayForIt. In a country of 80 Mil+, death count in single digits or teens, while also being heavily skewed towards 70+ year olds, shouldn't even hit the newswire if you ask me. Being hysterical about it reveals reveals a lot more about the poster than anything else. I have no problem with them bring hysterical as long as they don't have a voice in any broad policy that's affecting everyone. But they do and that's a problem.
Still think that once election is over and this stimulus is out and behind, rules will be relaxed. Money supply has been stacked and it's time to reestablish velocity. Think of what you want, I still think inflation is what this crisis is being used for. The response so far doesn't fit the threat. Anyway, I believe entire narrative is going to change very soon. It takes just few articles in NYT or WaPo to start changing broad opinions.
Nooky Ninja
10-14-20, 09:26
Admin likes to keep Covid discussion in FKK thread http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Coronavirus-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about! You should read about current Berlin situation there-affects travel planning. Thanks.
Because we miss it? LOL. Living vicariously, reading excellent reports such as yours! Of course, keep in mind all the clubs were completely shut for 4,5 months but that does not mean the forum should have come to a halt in those days. As I said in reply to Turgid, health concern is only one aspect of it for me; many other things need to fall into place before I can visit these clubs. In the meanwhile, chatting with likeminded people keeps whetting my appetite. Not that I need that much whetting; as it is I feel like I am famished LOL.An entirely fair response Sir. I rather fear your famine will continue for some time. But I very much doubt you will diet alone. Current numbers suggest to me that it is a matter of time before they all close again. That, together with travel restrictions mean that the number of customers, and workers in FKKs is likely to diminish quickly. Sad, and I am disappointed, but of course far less of a worry or upsetting as the ill health and deaths of many which is far more serious and of greater concern.
I am afraid my intended upcoming next trip to Germany has been cancelled and I am off to sunnier climes to continue feeding the appetite. But I doubt even that can remain the case for much longer, in which case I may have to join you and others in only "chatting with likeminded people" - which was a perfect answer to my query about why those not intending to sate the appetite continue to frequent these forums.
I think (in responding to SaratogaX) it's not about being too kind. I fully understand people's views. Like Expat Lover and Nooky Ninja. And I respect them. What I don't like is when I get the impression that people are telling me what choices to make. When the law bans something I don't breach the rules. I don't count that as a choice. Its enforcement and I will obey. But if the rules say a club can remain open (legally) then if opt to attend (taking risks) a place where others have also (legally) elected to take those risks for themselves and every other person present (and nobody is forced to be there. Not punters or workers) then I should be able to freely make that choice even if others would not make the same choice.
Occasionally some of the opinions of those electing NOT to attend sound rather like sermons or lectures from teachers to pupils. I trust that is not what was intended.
Let's just hope that this dreadful scourge passes as quickly as it came, a successful vaccine is produced quickly such that we can all get back to doing what we love most in 2021. For certain, this has caused us all to refocus, consider what is important and what is not, and not take our lives for granted.
An entirely fair response Sir. I rather fear your famine will continue for some time. But I very much doubt you will diet alone. Current numbers suggest to me that it is a matter of time before they all close again. That, together with travel restrictions mean that the number of customers, and workers in FKKs is likely to diminish quickly. Sad, and I am disappointed, but of course far less of a worry or upsetting as the ill health and deaths of many which is far more serious and of greater concern.
I am afraid my intended upcoming next trip to Germany has been cancelled and I am off to sunnier climes to continue feeding the appetite. But I doubt even that can remain the case for much longer, in which case I may have to join you and others in only "chatting with likeminded people" - which was a perfect answer to my query about why those not intending to sate the appetite continue to frequent these forums..Thank you for your very even keel response once again Mr. PFI. As always, you are a model of decorum.
Quick Q to you and other mongers who have written their excellent reports in their visits since some clubs reopened. Have you had a chance to talk to your fav girls how they fared during the interim 5/6 months, what have they been up to, how are their finances, and what their long term plans are? Also, to the extent some girls came back and others have not, is it driven by a bigger need for immediate cash, or the information that clubs have opened has not reached all the girls yet, or did the club managements somehow decide which girls are invited back and who are not (because there are restrictions on how many people can be inside a club at the same time)?
I am intrigued by your remark that clubs may close. I don't deny that is an unfortunate possibility. If they do, I am wondering what will these girls do, what their plans are? Obviously, it depends on in what manner these clubs close again if they do and for how long -- but did you get the sense that girls were desperate and have had it, or they took it in their stride in the last 6 months, how is their mental state?
Obviously, some are escorting in DE and other places, so I imagine some of them are getting by better than others I presume.
Thank you for your very even keel response once again Mr. PFI. As always, you are a model of decorum.
Quick Q to you and other mongers who have written their excellent reports in their visits since some clubs reopened. Have you had a chance to talk to your fav girls how they fared during the interim 5/6 months, what have they been up to, how are their finances, and what their long term plans are? Also, to the extent some girls came back and others have not, is it driven by a bigger need for immediate cash, or the information that clubs have opened has not reached all the girls yet, or did the club managements somehow decide which girls are invited back and who are not (because there are restrictions on how many people can be inside a club at the same time)?
I am intrigued by your remark that clubs may close. I don't deny that is an unfortunate possibility. If they do, I am wondering what will these girls do, what their plans are? Obviously, it depends on in what manner these clubs close again if they do and for how long -- but did you get the sense that girls were desperate and have had it, or they took it in their stride in the last 6 months, how is their mental state?
Obviously, some are escorting in DE and other places, so I imagine some of them are getting by better than others I presume.In terms of what they did, some said they just went home and lifted off previous savings. Others said they remained and escorted in DE with no problems other than a lack of customers. I didn't get the impression of desperation. They are loving the new pricing system, the 20 for BBBJ being enforced by all. I think some girls will have genuinely just decided this was the push they needed to give up. As you know, many desire it but cannot resist the temptation of the cash. But lockdowns and restricted travel caused some (indeed my very favourite girl in Spain) to decide to turn their back on this industry and start to make a "proper" life. Even if that means returning to normal jobs.
I think the mental state is just one of pure worry. The only thing I sensed desperation about was keeping the clubs (and hence income stream) open. Many fear it will be the end of FKKs completely if there are full lockdowns or more closures.
I made the comment that clubs may well close (at least for a good period if not forever) because of a mix of factors: (1) enforced closures (e. G. Still all the Hessen clubs) and attendant loss of huge sums of money (2) willingness of punters to attend is clearly diminished (3) even if that is wrong. Numbers allowed in are now restricted (4) girls worrying about working / the virus etc. (5) sales of beers and alcohol being restricted or stopped. (6) whilst some punters are truly missing the experience, I've had messages from a couple of guys who say they knew they were sex addicts but forced deprivation has caused them to be able to stop and they won't start again. Good luck to them. But that doesn't help FKKs! (7) global travel restrictions and quarantine requirements.
All in all, a grim position for owners of these clubs. I'm sure they will still be fat on previous profits, but no business saved for these rainy days and the current increasing numbers, plus lack of a vaccine (none was ever found for SARS. Now 17 years ago) could mean lockdowns / openings with poor numbers / back to lockdowns and so on. All of that together I think means that owners of the businesses will think long and hard about continuing, or selling up land and facilities. Whilst in Harmony I went to Babylon. There were 4 girls in the entire club and not a single customer. It's huge with expensive fit out and screens. That lack of income (when it is not even closed) cannot continue without that business closing. I can see that being repeated elsewhere. When times finally get back to normal (but that could well be several years) entrepreneurs will come forward who want to still make money from the sex industry. But before that, I can see many FKK closures, and those politicians seeking total shut down will use that as a platform / impetus for attempting total shut downs.
I will be truly very sad if the FKK scene in DE disappears, but the oldest profession in the world will not. I had never heard of an FKK until I stumbled across its name in the main forum in 2013 and headed to Artemis first. I shall never forget that first night. Notwithstanding having mongered for many many years before all over the world, it was a one off. I hope it's still going to be there at the end of this but I suspect the numbers of clubs which survive will be far less than those which operated before covid.
ExpatLover
10-17-20, 09:50
EL: I already tried to explain why I am posting often, I like to practise daily my English writing, I am 60+ and 15 years back couldn't speak or write 1 world in English. Yes I am out of that addiction and when I want to have great sex, I am still in very good relation with 2 ex girls from the clubs (retired several years back), and several times a year we are meeting for a long weekend with all inclusive), nice time for me but also for them. That business will last a long time, some activities need washing machines even they don't money with the FKK.
Changing the topic here, with a quick info about the measurement of temperature at the entrance. The max allowed value is 37.4. I barely got in. Someone here already mentioned he was refused entrance. It's a possibility, so consider it before travelling a long way to visit the club.
I wish I didn't get in though, because in the morning the line up was not interesting for me, and the next shift of girls was supposed to arrive at 20:00. So I left without going to the room. If you plan to visit, avoid the morning.
EL: I already tried to explain why I am posting often, I like to practise daily my English writing, I am 60+ and 15 years back couldn't speak or write 1 world in English. Yes I am out of that addiction and when I want to have great sex, I am still in very good relation with 2 ex girls from the clubs (retired several years back), and several times a year we are meeting for a long weekend with all inclusive), nice time for me but also for them. That business will last a long time, some activities need washing machines even they don't money with the FKK.There is nothing wrong with posting everyday or often, I like posting on daily basis as it is nice routine to check out this forum in the morning and before I sleep in the evening usually! After all, we monger can only discuss mongering on forum and not in our private lives, well it is not recommended to do so LOL!
BrahmaPoutre
10-30-20, 23:51
There is nothing wrong with posting everyday or often, I like posting on daily basis as it is nice routine to check out this forum in the morning and before I sleep in the evening usually! After all, we monger can only discuss mongering on forum and not in our private lives, well it is not recommended to do so LOL!People are often alone at home and many single guys do not have friends, especially when all other old friends have family and so on, so forum can help them to share with somebody else every day and they don't feel too much alone at home.
On the other hand, unfortunately Internet also isolate many people only living behind computers all over the World. FKK help very much to meet people, it is so much fun to talk and laugh with people in FKK every week, men and women.
ExpatLover
10-31-20, 05:26
People are often alone at home and many single guys do not have friends, especially when all other old friends have family and so on, so forum can help them to share with somebody else every day and they don't feel too much alone at home.
On the other hand, unfortunately Internet also isolate many people only living behind computers all over the World. FKK help very much to meet people, it is so much fun to talk and laugh with people in FKK every week, men and women.I also like to practise my English and this forum is a excellent tool for that. I don t believe that the people you can meet in a FKK can create sincere relations. For me, it is a place for lies, most of the people are cheating to protect themselves, the girls use a pseudonym, the guys are telling stories about making the girls come so many times. Many times mongers socialise with me specially those from the US, but always keep my distances. I like the Americans but I am always surprised how most of them need to be reassure by the other experiences, many times I told them that when you come from so far it is really not a big deal to try a girl for 50 euro but they always want to get feedback from the others. They feel unsafe without that.
People are often alone at home and many single guys do not have friends, especially when all other old friends have family and so on, so forum can help them to share with somebody else every day and they don't feel too much alone at home.
On the other hand, unfortunately Internet also isolate many people only living behind computers all over the World. FKK help very much to meet people, it is so much fun to talk and laugh with people in FKK every week, men and women.I don't think brothels are good places to make friends, I prefer to avoid to speak with guys, too much lies, all claimed businessman, bullshits and jealousy, when I have really hard job to succeed to find a attractive girl, sometimes turning around for 12 hours, at least I walk, but failing. Only very few guys, only 1 German in Hessen, I'm happy to meet. I train hard here to try to improve my English, relaxing for mind to speak another language, same like if I went to London, same like speaking Russian, as often I can, mostly with my Russian escorts, because claimed Russians in FKK are not able to speak with my school level, they don't understand the faintest word, except past Jane at GT, not the vulgar one at LR, or Tatiana Oase who moved to GT, or Ina Oase or Lena PSR, or Marina at Sharks, always pleasure to speak with them, a bit of holidays in mind.
People are often alone at home and many single guys do not have friends, especially when all other old friends have family and so on, so forum can help them to share with somebody else every day and they don't feel too much alone at home.
On the other hand, unfortunately Internet also isolate many people only living behind computers all over the World. I think this is the case in many richer countries, that are less socially connected and emphasize working longer hours (Northern Europe, Scandinavia, Japan, America). Their social network diminishes as their friends (if they had any) marry off. Hardcore mongers who spend their entire weekends in clubs or fly-in mongers who visit multiple times per year for weeks at a time, have probably cut off themselves from family and friends to a certain degree. Most live alone. If they didn't, there would be too much to explain. I think certain cultures are more socially connected (like Italians) where you constantly have to "check in" more and disappearing for weeks at a time or every weekend would be more difficult.
ExpatLover
11-01-20, 00:32
I think this is the case in many richer countries, that are less socially connected and emphasize working longer hours (Northern Europe, Scandinavia, Japan, America). Their social network diminishes as their friends (if they had any) marry off. Hardcore mongers who spend their entire weekends in clubs or fly-in mongers who visit multiple times per year for weeks at a time, have probably cut off themselves from family and friends to a certain degree. Most live alone. If they didn't, there would be too much to explain. I think certain cultures are more socially connected (like Italians) where you constantly have to "check in" more and disappearing for weeks at a time or every weekend would be more difficult.Fully online with you, this also happen to me, you need time to monger and confidentiality very difficult at the same time to share all this with relatives, friends. When in 2017, I reduced my mongering, immediately I had more friends, more family contacts just because I was less occupied and had no more things to hide. Many times girls told me that a lo of German guys come to FKK just for 2 hours, empty their balls and return home to their wife or GF, terrible. Some guys even don't shower, don't use sauna, eat or drink nothing, come, fuck and go.
BrahmaPoutre
11-01-20, 00:37
I don't really try especially to make friends in FKK, I was just saying that I enjoy meeting people and have fun with them, life is short, so it is good to enjoy when we can!
Personally, in the past I met people in FKK who came and slept in my apartment, many people know my real name because I give my real email address, they know my job, even one guy met my mother or I even met their wives at home! It even happened that we took photos all the guys together in FKK wearing bademantel! Obviously I do that only with people I know for a long time in FKK. I agree that sometimes we meet also strange people in FKK and it's better to keep distance with some of them but it is the same in "real" life.
I always find funny when guys tries to hide everything but I respect it, so I never ask about private life, personally I don't mind, if they want to share it's up to them, they certainly have good reasons if they don't want, for sure, but even if it is fake, some of them are really interesting people and it is sometimes really pleasant to spend some times with them, talking and having a drink or watching sport in FKK or whatsoever.
ExpatLover
11-01-20, 00:45
Lies are also coming from the girls, like you I don't want to make friends in a FKK, I always answer that I can speak English or German, only French and I know that in the FKK you only have few young people with migration background who can speak French and they will not speak with a 65+ old white Christian guy. The few times I discussed with men, I always felt that they are not from my world, or there were vulgar, or they really had to be very careful with their spending's, most of them always tried to push me to give info about girls what I refuse.
People are often alone at home and many single guys do not have friends, especially when all other old friends have family and so on, so forum can help them to share with somebody else every day and they don't feel too much alone at home.
On the other hand, unfortunately Internet also isolate many people only living behind computers all over the World. FKK help very much to meet people, it is so much fun to talk and laugh with people in FKK every week, men and women.It is each their own I think, but when it comes to mongering I cannot discuss this with any of my friends and I am someone who went to two boarding schools, so I would say our circle is more tight than those who went to normal school, we lived together under same roof, but even with them I do not discuss about my mongering hobby beside two of them, so I do think forum is good place for me because even in FKK, I do not really socialize with fellow mongers from me unless I am spoken to.
Having said that, I do like to add that when I am spoken to in FKK and I began communicate with them, I always had good time having real talk about life in general because with them I could talk about mongering and how it is part of my life, which in a way could be perceived as real me, I could say mongering forum is some therapeutic place for me because it is only place I can talk about mongering which is one of the most important part of my life as I do enjoy fucking new young beauties one after another every year, one of the biggest joy of my life I cannot share and laugh with anybody, but on internet.
And finally, this forum is the only forum where not maybe all, but most are real mongers, I tend to stay honest here and not all posters are honest, but I would say most are honest posters here that I like. It is good place to open up our secret side (which is for me and I like to think for you too for your reputation in society) and beside the too intense censoring to the level of North Korea, it is good forum! It is my morning and before I go to bed routine to write here!
I think this is the case in many richer countries, that are less socially connected and emphasize working longer hours (Northern Europe, Scandinavia, Japan, America). Their social network diminishes as their friends (if they had any) marry off. Hardcore mongers who spend their entire weekends in clubs or fly-in mongers who visit multiple times per year for weeks at a time, have probably cut off themselves from family and friends to a certain degree. Most live alone. If they didn't, there would be too much to explain. I think certain cultures are more socially connected (like Italians) where you constantly have to "check in" more and disappearing for weeks at a time or every weekend would be more difficult.That actually is the best thing about Germany, it is the last place people imagine to be the capital of prostitution!
Lies are also coming from the girls, like you I don't want to make friends in a FKK, I always answer that I can speak English or German, only French and I know that in the FKK you only have few young people with migration background who can speak French and they will not speak with a 65+ old white Christian guy. The few times I discussed with men, I always felt that they are not from my world, or there were vulgar, or they really had to be very careful with their spending's, most of them always tried to push me to give info about girls what I refuse.Many guys can compete with WGs for bullshits and lies. Too many french guys for me in Germany, I avoid them, fortunately for me, less in Switzerland and Austria. L really don't understand why so many guys need to come to speak with me, when I m not interested to speak with guys, only girls interest me and I have often hard job to find one on my standards when I don't have a regular, when I left so many times Globe, GT Bruggen, Sharks, Oase, heavy full balls, not easy to find for me. On the other hand, at ski or climbing, I meet guys, most often from other countries than me, sometimes difficult to communicate, but we understand each others, because we are passionate and they are so much more interesting than brothels claimed businessman. I don't like much Italians in clubs, but I really like them for sport. Some guys seem more interested by some other guys than by girls.
BrahmaPoutre
11-01-20, 21:26
Many guys can compete with WGs for bullshits and lies. Too many french guys for me in Germany, I avoid them, fortunately for me, less in Switzerland and Austria. L really don't understand why so many guys need to come to speak with me, when I m not interested to speak with guys, only girls interest me and I have often hard job to find one on my standards when I don't have a regular, when I left so many times Globe, GT Bruggen, Sharks, Oase, heavy full balls, not easy to find for me. On the other hand, at ski or climbing, I meet guys, most often from other countries than me, sometimes difficult to communicate, but we understand each others, because we are passionate and they are so much more interesting than brothels claimed businessman. I don't like much Italians in clubs, but I really like them for sport. Some guys seem more interested by some other guys than by girls.I remember an African brilliant colleague of mine who said to me once: Look carefully, poor people always want to keep or hide everything for themselves because they missed it when they were young, but it is normal, you cannot blame their reaction now. It seems that you are in that category, always obsessed by girls and you miss all the other good things in FKK.
I remember an African brilliant colleague of mine who said to me once: Look carefully, poor people always want to keep or hide everything for themselves because they missed it when they were young, but it is normal, you cannot blame their reaction now. It seems that you are in that category, always obsessed by girls and you miss all the other good things in FKK.What are other good things in brothels than elegant charming beauties? But when I arrive, I only start with eating, beauties can wait, I need to eat to enjoy fucking, I also need beauty of course, I don't go in room with guys, when few asked me to let them see my performances, really crazy, one even paid me at GT.
Alessandro527
11-02-20, 06:05
That actually is the best thing about Germany, it is the last place people imagine to be the capital of prostitution!In Europe everybody knows that Germany is the prostitutes paradise.
ExpatLover
11-02-20, 08:58
Yes to pay a prostitute is for sure a great performance.
In Europe everybody knows that Germany is the prostitutes paradise.Brothel of Western Europe with Junquera. Sp.
In Europe everybody knows that Germany is the prostitutes paradise.Not my European friends, they are decent and legit guys who do not do what I do! But as far as I know, I may run into some of them in FKK one day LOL!
Rambambinoz
11-04-20, 15:08
Not my European friends, they are decent and legit guys who do not do what I do! But as far as I know, I may run into some of them in FKK one day LOL!Hahahaha I'm that decent legit guy that no one suspects of any mischief! I just pretend I don't know anything about women and only ever discuss football. Not yet encountered anyone I know in FKK world though.
Hahahaha I'm that decent legit guy that no one suspects of any mischief! I just pretend I don't know anything about women and only ever discuss football. Not yet encountered anyone I know in FKK world though.Yeah, nobody in my circle think I am heavy monger, and I plan to keep it that way, so this forum helps to take out the gas out of my monger life, I can never discuss my monger side of life to anyone, but here!
ExpatLover
11-05-20, 06:42
Not Europe mainly Germany, in many other countries it is illegal, only very few men go to prostitutes, when you are married or have GF the risks to get sick are not negligible, also for many men visiting and paying for sex is very degrading. Everyone can do it, but to seduce a woman, to get what you are looking for is at another level.
ExpatLover
11-05-20, 06:47
Hahahaha I'm that decent legit guy that no one suspects of any mischief! I just pretend I don't know anything about women and only ever discuss football. Not yet encountered anyone I know in FKK world though.How many men in Europe probably 80 Millions in age to have sex, how many visiting prostitutes: very very few, also men with migration background are overrepresented in the FKK and brothels, I also believe that for native European the trend to visit prostitutes is downwards for years.
Brothel of Western Europe with Junquera. Sp.Interesting hint. What is it about Junquera? Never heard about it.
Not my European friends, they are decent and legit guys who do not do what I do! But as far as I know, I may run into some of them in FKK one day LOL!Are you suggesting that one cannot be a monger and a decent and legitimate guy at the same time? I disagree strongly with this. I believe that prostitution should be a legal and regulated activity in all places. Most of society has it wrong. Not us decent, upstanding, law abiding mongers who only want to pursue the urges that nature has bestowed upon us.
Interesting hint. What is it about Junquera? Never heard about it.At la Junquera in Spain on French border, north Barcelona, club Paradise with nearly 200 girls before.
Are you suggesting that one cannot be a monger and a decent and legitimate guy at the same time? I disagree strongly with this. I believe that prostitution should be a legal and regulated activity in all places. Most of society has it wrong. Not us decent, upstanding, law abiding mongers who only want to pursue the urges that nature has bestowed upon us.I agree with you to some extent, what I mean is that one can seem different, but real core self is bit let say close to nature, unless mumbling about craving for girls corn holes or getting my anal drilled by young beauties are normal conversation by society point of view, I do not talk about this in my life only on forum! Do you? LOL! Got what I mean now?
I agree with you to some extent, what I mean is that one can seem different, but real core self is bit let say close to nature, unless mumbling about craving for girls corn holes or getting my anal drilled by young beauties are normal conversation by society point of view, I do not talk about this in my life only on forum! Do you? LOL! Got what I mean now?Discretion still remains the better part of valor.
Are you suggesting that one cannot be a monger and a decent and legitimate guy at the same time? I disagree strongly with this. I believe that prostitution should be a legal and regulated activity in all places. Most of society has it wrong. Not us decent, upstanding, law abiding mongers who only want to pursue the urges that nature has bestowed upon us.Absolutely, one can be a monger and a decent person at the same time. Prostitution should be legal and treated like a business transaction, with strong laws to protect both parties, and especially the women. IMO, Germany has taken a good step in that effort.
I remember an African brilliant colleague of mine who said to me once: Look carefully, poor people always want to keep or hide everything for themselves because they missed it when they were young, but it is normal, you cannot blame their reaction now. It seems that you are in that category, always obsessed by girls and you miss all the other good things in FKK.Tbh, a monger's financial status and history are irrelevant, don't you think? Strictly, his personal business. I find Mr. Sirioja's monologues honest and amusing. I admit I can't understand all of them, he has an *interesting way of expressing himself* LOL. But he seems to have a childlike enthusiasm for WGs which is quaint and charming. Most of us are jaded, so it is good to see it in his case although he is definitely no spring chicken by his own admission. I personally don't share his obsession with model looks, "woman behavior" as he calls it (I still don't know what he means by it -- to me, all WGs are pretty much the same; it matters a whole lot more if they take the whole dick in their mouth or just a tip, do they take a pounding in doggie or do they wiggle and cheat, do they cut the session at 20 min or even 17 minutes). But Mr. Sirioja is one of the few people still visiting these clubs on a regular basis and I find his observations refreshing.
Absolutely, one can be a monger and a decent person at the same time. Prostitution should be legal and treated like a business transaction, with strong laws to protect both parties, and especially the women. IMO, Germany has taken a good step in that effort.Personally, I think there is no correlation. One can be decent and mongering, indecent and mongering, decent and not mongering, indecent and not mongering. Obviously, we all know too many examples in each category. I think Mr Ho probably meant "naughty" as the opposite of decent. Lost in translation? Agree with you re: Germany being stellar in what they have done for this business.
ExpatLover
11-06-20, 08:50
Are you suggesting that one cannot be a monger and a decent and legitimate guy at the same time? I disagree strongly with this. I believe that prostitution should be a legal and regulated activity in all places. Most of society has it wrong. Not us decent, upstanding, law abiding mongers who only want to pursue the urges that nature has bestowed upon us.I don't agree at all with you, prostitution should be strongly forbidden, you can't ignore all the damages create by this industry: when the girls can't prostitute they have to find a normal job, so many prostitutes have addictions which damage strongly their mental health, so many prostitutes work for pimps, BF, this industry is used to wash black money on top of that it will oblige the men to be creative to seduce women and those who are not good enough will just have to masturbate at home, a very good natural selection which will please Darwin.
Absolutely, one can be a monger and a decent person at the same time. Prostitution should be legal and treated like a business transaction, with strong laws to protect both parties, and especially the women. IMO, Germany has taken a good step in that effort.Just look at me, pretty face with beautiful hair as say girls but I hate when they touch my hair, women being jealous of such curls. When have a white car, then charming prince in white horse. Bicycle is not white. Pimping and many Germans are pimped, have to be fought, but prostitutes are on my opinion, social workers helping men, when they don t try to fuck us, but politics and US are king for this, when porn land, too hypocrite. In Switzerland, even I hate Swiss administration, but I find good point if a registered prostitute get sick, she has insurance to cure, when maybe more than 50 millions people don t have in US, and if she was registered for at least 3 years, meaning paying taxes, when she will be 60 yo, she will get 1000 per month from administration if still living in Switzerland. Of course, couldn't work in a brothel like GT Bruggen. De which forgot to pay tax but caught by administration.
I don't agree at all with you, prostitution should be strongly forbidden, you can't ignore all the damages create by this industry: when the girls can't prostitute they have to find a normal job, so many prostitutes have addictions which damage strongly their mental health, so many prostitutes work for pimps, BF, this industry is used to wash black money on top of that it will oblige the men to be creative to seduce women and those who are not good enough will just have to masturbate at home, a very good natural selection which will please Darwin.Well, we are each entitled to express our opinions. I'm of the view that whether it's legal or not, it's going to exist. So better to officially recognize it and try to regulate it to the better good for all parties concerned.
we monger can only discuss mongering on forum and not in our private lives, well it is not recommended to do so LOL!You don't even have a mongering friend within your circle to discuss about general monering activities privately? Not even your best friend? It doesn't have to be about FKK. I've acquainted some Jap customers who love visiting strip clubs. They seem to be very open in talking about that after work even though it's not FKK. When you get into that kind of conversation, you can skillfully steer the conversation to talk about mongering. LOL. When I was on a business trip to Japan, my local colleague there took me to this place called Angel Kiss in Tokyo. I recall we paid roughly $200 USA Equivalent to get in. That included sitting down with 5 different ladies one at a time to talk and DFK. We could pick the woman from couple dozens walking around. That was pretty cool even though there was no f**king. I thought the Jap people are pretty open to some kind of extra sinful activities which implies to some extent mongering. No?
Yeah, nobody in my circle think I am heavy monger, and I plan to keep it that way, so this forum helps to take out the gas out of my monger life, I can never discuss my monger side of life to anyone, but here!Not even to a mongering friend? That implies some people in your circle know that you're an occasional or light monger (but not heavy). Right? Is it possible that some of your friends are doing all sort of secret mongering activities like you've without telling you as well? LOL.
I read that you want mongering for life. I'm curious what you would tell your friends or relatives if / when they ask you why you don't have a steady GF or why you're not married or why you stay single? Wouldn't you feel they may kind of wonder about some mongering adventures you may occasionally enage in anyway?
Smoke Light
11-06-20, 22:31
I don't agree at all with you, prostitution should be strongly forbidden, you can't ignore all the damages create by this industry: when the girls can't prostitute they have to find a normal job, so many prostitutes have addictions which damage strongly their mental health, so many prostitutes work for pimps, BF, this industry is used to wash black money on top of that it will oblige the men to be creative to seduce women and those who are not good enough will just have to masturbate at home, a very good natural selection which will please Darwin.It's comical when someone plays a moralist on ISG. [Deleted by Admin]
ExpatLover
11-07-20, 05:34
Nothing to see with moral, I just try to share my little knowledge about the P6 scene in Germany, for the he other countries I have no idea just because I never go with prostitute except Germany.
You don't even have a mongering friend within your circle to discuss about general monering activities privately? Not even your best friend? It doesn't have to be about FKK. I've acquainted some Jap customers who love visiting strip clubs. They seem to be very open in talking about that after work even though it's not FKK. When you get into that kind of conversation, you can skillfully steer the conversation to talk about mongering. LOL. When I was on a business trip to Japan, my local colleague there took me to this place called Angel Kiss in Tokyo. I recall we paid roughly $200 USA Equivalent to get in. That included sitting down with 5 different ladies one at a time to talk and DFK. We could pick the woman from couple dozens walking around. That was pretty cool even though there was no f**king. I thought the Jap people are pretty open to some kind of extra sinful activities which implies to some extent mongering. No?
Not even to a mongering friend? That implies some people in your circle know that you're an occasional or light monger (but not heavy). Right? Is it possible that some of your friends are doing all sort of secret mongering activities like you've without telling you as well? LOL.
I read that you want mongering for life. I'm curious what you would tell your friends or relatives if / when they ask you why you don't have a steady GF or why you're not married or why you stay single? Wouldn't you feel they may kind of wonder about some mongering adventures you may occasionally enage in anyway?No, I do not discuss my mongering activities to any of my friends beside two of them know about it little bit, but we do not discuss about it further as we do have vast normal girls around us and this kind of info is the last thing I need to spreading around! Also for business wise, I like to keep very honest and earnest reputation that I actually am, but I do have fault which is I love fucking many stunner level beautiful girls that never get old, so I do love mongering LOL!
It would be nice if I can sit and chat with some of my friends about mongering because some of them are actually hardcore mongers in eastern Europe (they are from there and live there), but I just do not allow myself to do that!
However, those who know are close friends and their mouth is shield and they know about it as they hook me up with stunners in eastern Europe and we take girls in private banya (sauna) which is like a suite room of hotel, but is sauna! It is not that they do not talk because they too monger, it is more friendship Russian mentality thing, they keep their word and actually it is the last thing they care about themselves about fucking prostitutes, they don't care LOL! But they understand that I do care and why I do, our relation go way back more than two decades now!
Having said that, I do enjoy some general mongering related chit chat on forum and sometimes I meet some random nice monger in FKK and enjoy some chat about mongering part of our life and that is always enjoyable and stimulating to talk to same kind and hey many also tend to keep their mouth shut back home especially some of those I met who are married! I met some mongers in FKK from all over Europe, Qatar to some inner USA like Idaho, it is nice memories and make it even more as most likely I will never meet them again!
Tbh, a monger's financial status and history are irrelevant, don't you think? Strictly, his personal business. I find Mr. Sirioja's monologues honest and amusing. I admit I can't understand all of them, he has an *interesting way of expressing himself* LOL. But he seems to have a childlike enthusiasm for WGs which is quaint and charming. Most of us are jaded, so it is good to see it in his case although he is definitely no spring chicken by his own admission. I personally don't share his obsession with model looks, "woman behavior" as he calls it (I still don't know what he means by it -- to me, all WGs are pretty much the same; it matters a whole lot more if they take the whole dick in their mouth or just a tip, do they take a pounding in doggie or do they wiggle and cheat, do they cut the session at 20 min or even 17 minutes). But Mr. Sirioja is one of the few people still visiting these clubs on a regular basis and I find his observations refreshing.Woman behavior mean first to speak nearly like a normal woman, not: zimmer or I want to fuck you, then to have manners like a normal woman and I much prefer a girl who is jealous and say: You do same with others? I don't want you go with others, rather than seeing her kissing or rubbing on others, and in bed, woman reactions, not only a hole to fill. On last night, new Joana at Globe did lead me to make her cum, interesting reaction. Of course, I need beauty, to desire. Model types with long legs are more impressive, but pretty face is the most important. When, when watching girls, I will see only prostitute images, when I won t find anymore woman images, then I will stop. I don t go with prostitute images, I stop with my best girl who fell on this level, for me, she was very angry not to be anymore princess in my words, but she still got business, when I lost princess. But, you don't like me anymore? As she said. No more desire as I answered.
ExpatLover
11-07-20, 10:19
No, I do not discuss my mongering activities to any of my friends beside two of them know about it little bit, but we do not discuss about it further as we do have vast normal girls around us and this kind of info is the last thing I need to spreading around! Also for business wise, I like to keep very honest and earnest reputation that I actually am, but I do have fault which is I love fucking many stunner level beautiful girls that never get old, so I do love mongering LOL!
It would be nice if I can sit and chat with some of my friends about mongering because some of them are actually hardcore mongers in eastern Europe (they are from there and live there), but I just do not allow myself to do that!
However, those who know are close friends and their mouth is shield and they know about it as they hook me up with stunners in eastern Europe and we take girls in private banya (sauna) which is like a suite room of hotel, but is sauna! It is not that they do not talk because they too monger, it is more friendship Russian mentality thing, they keep their word and actually it is the last thing they care about themselves about fucking prostitutes, they don't care LOL! But they understand that I do care and why I do, our relation go way back more than two decades now!.I totally agree with you, I guess nobody in my relatives is aware about my mongering activities, I consider that for most of the people to pay for sex is not a performance at all (I also believe this) and doing it is demonstrating a kind of weakness which is never good specially with business partners or family members.
No, I do not discuss my mongering activities to any of my friends beside two of them know about it little bit, but we do not discuss about it further as we do have vast normal girls around us and this kind of info is the last thing I need to spreading around! Also for business wise, I like to keep very honest and earnest reputation that I actually am, but I do have fault which is I love fucking many stunner level beautiful girls that never get old, so I do love mongering LOL!
Having said that, I do enjoy some general mongering related chit chat on forum and sometimes I meet some random nice monger in FKK and enjoy some chat about mongering part of our life and that is always enjoyable and stimulating to talk to same kind and hey many also tend to keep their mouth shut back home especially some of those I met who are married! I met some mongers in FKK from all over Europe, Qatar to some inner USA like Idaho, it is nice memories and make it even more as most likely I will never meet them again!Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.
Woman behavior mean first to speak nearly like a normal woman, not: zimmer or I want to fuck you, then to have manners like a normal woman and I much prefer a girl who is jealous and say: You do same with others? I don't want you go with others, rather than seeing her kissing or rubbing on others, and in bed, woman reactions, not only a hole to fill. On last night, new Joana at Globe did lead me to make her cum, interesting reaction. Of course, I need beauty, to desire. Model types with long legs are more impressive, but pretty face is the most important. When, when watching girls, I will see only prostitute images, when I won t find anymore woman images, then I will stop. I don t go with prostitute images, I stop with my best girl who fell on this level, for me, she was very angry not to be anymore princess in my words, but she still got business, when I lost princess. But, you don't like me anymore? As she said. No more desire as I answered.OK, what you said makes sense. Not sure if I seek the same things as you do but you have a right to pursue who / what you want in the clubs. Good luck.
Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.Yes, it is true that Germany is not at all well known as a mongering destination. Thank goodness. To some extent, even Amsterdam has that reputation in lay person's mind but not DE. I hope it stays that way. One huge reason is that there is obviously a lot of business activity in EU and in DE in particular. So, the percent of men traveling to DE for purposes other than sex tourism is actually quite large. That may not be so when it comes to Thailand. I do not know because I certainly had no business reason to travel to Thailand. To Korea / Taiwan / HK / SG / Shanghai / Shenzhen but not to Thailand. So, most regular Americans do not associate DE with being a sex destination (yet).
Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.I pretty much agree with almost every word of this. Well written.
OK, what you said makes sense. Not sure if I seek the same things as you do but you have a right to pursue who / what you want in the clubs. Good luck.Of course, I spend my money I work even under covid, to make, as I want and I know what I look for. I never ask anybody about girls. When some guys need to tell me: this girl does everything, then she doesn't interest me much. On the other hand, when guys say from a beauty, she is arrogant princess behavior, then she will interest me. As I wrote, I love to play with princesses if they have manners and the look care. Vulgarity and pornstars, I let for others.
Socially, being married with a beautiful wife telling she found her charming prince, with 2 children, is much more valuable than dark side paying for sex, even so many married guys according to girls. They don t believe me when I say I m not married, and look at me like a alien, when I tell if I had a woman in my life, I would prefer to stay with her, to take care of her, to give her the will to seduce me and to ask me for love, and in bed. No reason to tell about dark side, weekly datcha, when I tell about my holidays skiing or climbing, even people look at me with round eyes: must be exhausting, dangerous. Yes and for adrenaline I love so much. Looking forward skiing, wishing for Christmas best present.
Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL!It does not seem like you quit Brazil, so what did you end up doing to throw them off your scent? I have never heard "normal people" connect the dots with Brazil being a sex tourist destination. I didn't even know Brazil was a mongering destination myself, until some mongers in the FKK clubs explained that to me. Their summers are opposite to the northern hemisphere, so if you lived in a place where there are bitter winters, you could always just play it off as Brazil being your annual winter beach getaway.
A middle-aged guy could probably getting away with going to Thailand once without arousing suspicion. Going repeatedly (unaccompanied by a GF or wife) is another story.
Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.I just have few friends who are Eastern European who knows as they hook me up with top stunners when I am in eastern Europe, other than that I never talk about mongering, but I even denounce it LOL!
I totally agree with you, I guess nobody in my relatives is aware about my mongering activities, I consider that for most of the people to pay for sex is not a performance at all (I also believe this) and doing it is demonstrating a kind of weakness which is never good specially with business partners or family members.Even though mongering life is the life style I would like to recommend to all men who like to fulfill their teenage dreams, we did it LOL!
It does not seem like you quit Brazil, so what did you end up doing to throw them off your scent? I have never heard "normal people" connect the dots with Brazil being a sex tourist destination. I didn't even know Brazil was a mongering destination myself, until some mongers in the FKK clubs explained that to me. Their summers are opposite to the northern hemisphere, so if you lived in a place where there are bitter winters, you could always just play it off as Brazil being your annual winter beach getaway. A middle-aged guy could probably getting away with going to Thailand once without arousing suspicion. Going repeatedly (unaccompanied by a GF or wife) is another story.Again, successful strategy number one is just keeping my mouth shut, and not falling prey to just having to spill the beans and tell somebody. I don't care how many times I go to Brazil or Germany (or wherever). That's my business, and nobody else's. There have been many times when I traveled abroad, and plenty of people didn't even know it. Just slipped away out of town for awhile and came back, and told nobody. The best kept secret is one known only to one!
Now, for people who do happen to know about my travels to Brazil, then your "annual trip" suggestion does indeed work. Hey, I fell in love with the place after the first time I went down there years ago you tell them. The people, the food, the culture, the music, the beach, the nightlife! I'm thinking about retiring down there you say. When it gets cold, time to take a trip! It works. Between that and just keeping my mouth shut about "irrelevant details". Silence is golden! Especially around nosy women. Don't tell them shit!
But, probably the most ironclad cover of all is the "business trip". Your work was going to take you to that place anyway. This is really nirvana for the traveling monger since expensive costs such as your airfare and hotel are covered. You only need adequate funds to procure your tutes. And your reason for being in that place is already legitimately established. I realize that many men simply can't hope for business-related travel that takes them to some of the top mongering destinations in the world. I consider myself to be very, very lucky in this regard.
Again, successful strategy number one is just keeping my mouth shut, and not falling prey to just having to spill the beans and tell somebody. I don't care how many times I go to Brazil or Germany (or wherever). That's my business, and nobody else's. There have been many times when I traveled abroad, and plenty of people didn't even know it. Just slipped away out of town for awhile and came back, and told nobody. The best kept secret is one known only to one!
Now, for people who do happen to know about my travels to Brazil, then your "annual trip" suggestion does indeed work. Hey, I fell in love with the place after the first time I went down there years ago you tell them. The people, the food, the culture, the music, the beach, the nightlife! I'm thinking about retiring down there you say. When it gets cold, time to take a trip! It works. Between that and just keeping my mouth shut about "irrelevant details". Silence is golden! Especially around nosy women. Don't tell them shit!
But, probably the most ironclad cover of all is the "business trip". Your work was going to take you to that place anyway. This is really nirvana for the traveling monger since expensive costs such as your airfare and hotel are covered. You only need adequate funds to procure your tutes. And your reason for being in that place is already legitimately established. I realize that many men simply can't hope for business-related travel that takes them to some of the top mongering destinations in the world. I consider myself to be very, very lucky in this regard.Yes, for Brazil it is easy, for Germany, we must say we love museum, history, Berlin wall, food LOL! It is all kinda hard for Germany LOL! But it is good thing Germany is not considered as sex tourist destination to most of normal people, they all think Netherlands is sex tourism central in Europe, but we professional monger know that it is Germany LOL If I find some guy continuously going to Germany for just holiday, it is like vampires in the movie, we notice each other LOL! I be like oh yes I love those German museums in Germany too LOL! Oh and food, what a lovely sausages LOL!
Yes, for Brazil it is easy, for Germany, we must say we love museum, history, Berlin wall, food LOL! It is all kinda hard for Germany LOL! But it is good thing Germany is not considered as sex tourist destination to most of normal people, they all think Netherlands is sex tourism central in Europe, but we professional monger know that it is Germany LOL If I find some guy continuously going to Germany for just holiday, it is like vampires in the movie, we notice each other LOL! I be like oh yes I love those German museums in Germany too LOL! Oh and food, what a lovely sausages LOL!Yeah, Germany is harder to justify. But, the fact that it isn't a well-known mongering destination among the general public helps immensely. Besides, I have had some business travel to FKKland. Man the schnitzel with cranberries and potatoes was absolutely delicious LOL! Now Thailand or The Philippines, just forget about it. If you can't say "business travel", then there is no possible justification hahaha! You're going over to hump them tutes, and that's final! LOLOLOL!
Yeah, Germany is harder to justify. But, the fact that it isn't a well-known mongering destination among the general public helps immensely. Besides, I have had some business travel to FKKland. Man the schnitzel with cranberries and potatoes was absolutely delicious LOL! Now Thailand or The Philippines, just forget about it. If you can't say "business travel", then there is no possible justification hahaha! You're going over to hump them tutes, and that's final! LOLOLOL!And it is too bad for Philippines and Thailand because those two nations has among the best beaches in the world, but people pay too much attention on their girls side LOL!
Well so, we stick to Germany then and as for your Brazil, you can say you love the beaches there too LOL!
Yeah, Germany is harder to justify. But, the fact that it isn't a well-known mongering destination among the general public helps immensely. Besides, I have had some business travel to FKKland. Man the schnitzel with cranberries and potatoes was absolutely delicious LOL! Now Thailand or The Philippines, just forget about it. If you can't say "business travel", then there is no possible justification hahaha! You're going over to hump them tutes, and that's final! LOLOLOL!You can tell you go to Germany for exceptional gastronomy and beer, or to test car like me, which is true and people who know me know my love for sensations, Germany for speed, Switzerland and Austria for ski. Easy. Maybe I even have more pleasure to clean German autobahns, even more and more rare free speed zones with no works, than most often in brothels.
You can tell you go to Germany for exceptional gastronomy and beer, or to test car like me, which is true and people who know me know my love for sensations, Germany for speed, Switzerland and Austria for ski. Easy. Maybe I even have more pleasure to clean German autobahns, even more and more rare free speed zones with no works, than most often in brothels.Spain is also a very, very easy "sell". It's a huge tourist destination with all kinds of interesting things to see and do. I have partaken in all of that too. But I don't think the average tourist, at least from the United States anyway, understands the true depth and breadth of prostitution in Spain.
Spain is also a very, very easy "sell". It's a huge tourist destination with all kinds of interesting things to see and do. I have partaken in all of that too. But I don't think the average tourist, at least from the United States anyway, understands the true depth and breadth of prostitution in Spain.I think Spain is number 4 for tourism, much higher than China or India or Thailand, when France and Paris are number 1. Great foods and sea sex and sun in Spain. I'm just not attracted by Latinas, but can find some Slavians in Catalunya.
I think Spain is number 4 for tourism, much higher than China or India or Thailand, when France and Paris are number 1. Great foods and sea sex and sun in Spain. I'm just not attracted by Latinas, but can find some Slavians in Catalunya.The presence of Romanian and other eastern European girls is very dominant in Spain too. Although, there is a very nice mix of girls from other lands plying the trade in Spain as well. I found some French girls working in the north. Moroccan tutes in the south. Cornholed a girl from Turkey in Malaga. Fucked a girl from Colombia in Barcelona. A natural blonde whose family was originally from Cuba in Seville. Girls from all over. But you're making a mistake if you think Spain is all Latinas. It is not. Romanian girls and many, many other Eastern European girls abound, including some Russians. I have told you this before Mr. Ho, but you don't listen. I think the bigger showstopper for you is that the action in Spain is not in the sauna club tradition, which you love so much. For that reason, you're better off sticking with Germany, Switzerland, and Austria even.
You can tell you go to Germany for exceptional gastronomy and beer, or to test car like me, which is true and people who know me know my love for sensations, Germany for speed, Switzerland and Austria for ski. Easy. Maybe I even have more pleasure to clean German autobahns, even more and more rare free speed zones with no works, than most often in brothels.Germany is called brothel of Western Europe and NL narcotic state, when they lost control.
The presence of Romanian and other eastern European girls is very dominant in Spain too. Although, there is a very nice mix of girls from other lands plying the trade in Spain as well. I found some French girls working in the north. Moroccan tutes in the south. Cornholed a girl from Turkey in Malaga. Fucked a girl from Colombia in Barcelona. A natural blonde whose family was originally from Cuba in Seville. Girls from all over. But you're making a mistake if you think Spain is all Latinas. It is not. Romanian girls and many, many other Eastern European girls abound, including some Russians. I have told you this before Mr. Ho, but you don't listen. I think the bigger showstopper for you is that the action in Spain is not in the sauna club tradition, which you love so much. For that reason, you're better off sticking with Germany, Switzerland, and Austria even.Even I don't go so often than in Germany or Switzerland, but I know Catalunya and Romanians there are not on Germany or Switzerland or Austria level and most often more expensive than in Germany. Spain worth for me for Slavians meaning Belarus, Russians, Ukrainians. I don't care about brothels, but I want elegant beauties. They are rare in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, and also in Spain, but sometimes I find one. I need only 1.
Sad day.
But I am human and still able to smile after I cry. I was crying three times last month, maybe I am pregnant. Other reasons are just not possible, you know. We are living in a wonderful world, everything else are alternative real fake news.
Sad message for the corona clan, 5,6,7 days after a last visit of mine, no symptoms. 14 days later no symptoms, nothing, although I belong to the high risk group, the very high risk group, I have a low to no immune system. If I don't smoke, I am sleeping or search for the lighter.
So is it possible that I am to dump to catch a virus that is even able to infect a mango? Am I more dump than a mango? Obviously, I mean where is it possible to catch a brand new super virus if not in a dark, more or less oxygen free club?
To dump to catch a virus.
(Side note for those who are denying corona. The virus is there! Really. The devil like virus must be there, somewhere. Maybe I was in the wrong room or bartenders put Sputnik V in my drinks.).
A few positive things about the hygienic concept were written here before. I can back them up.
Hygienic concepts in general are only hygienic concepts if health care authorities give them a go. So if anyone want to criticise the hygienic concept of Artemis, you have to criticise Berlin government and their health care authorities.
So which clown of government thought it is great idea, that guests have to enter the building with a mask and then they have to show the ID. You know what I mean? How should the receptionist be able to recognise if the guy behind the mask is the same guy like on the photo of the ID? Was Artemis forced to higher receptionists who have x-ray eyes? Of course, if you're a white bread, don't show the ID of a "colored man" but if you're not dumb as a mango, it is possible to get in anonymously. So which clown was it? Fake doctor Giffey with the cheating husband or was it Dilek? Since Fake doctor Giffey prefers to turn the big wheels, it must have been Dilek.
Dilek Dilek Dilek, you remember what your mama told you? "Think first before you open your mouth".
If you had listen to mama, you wouldn't have the system cock in your mouth now.
Unfortunately Artemis is forced to delete the given data after 4 weeks, otherwise you could call me now, I make love very good to political idiots. Maybe next time Dilek.
Now I have to clap hands for the grandpa's I met there that day. Good to know that not all the elderly people are trapped by the protection propaganda. You know, big up to the 80 year old party terrorists. Dying in a brothel or dying isolated, alone in a cold hospital. No brain needed to make the right decision here. And don't let them call you egoistic, not reliable or a danger for the normal, order people.
Nobody has to show solidarity with a majority, a majority that is only a majority because of horror show in ARD and police patrolling the streets.
What you have to do when the ship is sinking? Right, you rescue first big concerns to make it easier for them to fire many many workers. Then you rescue more concerns. Then you rescue your own ass. Followed by officers who don't have much between the ears because washing the brains of them is way more easy, you also need canon food who protect your lausy rescue umbrella system. Then you rescue the old people who have a bright future. Then you rescue women and children, but only the healthy ones, those who are born healthy, born rich, born educated. Hand washing Nazis, you know. Then you tell the rest, sorry no more boats left. You know, it is their own fault, they didn't worked hard enough, they lived not healthy enough and now they want to disturb the peace of our awesome sect.
Unfortunately it's not possible to rescue everybody. You know, the Fascho has no choice.
I left Artemis never without a room. Never. You know, I am not a "Frank", Cops like Frank are so easy to recognise in a club. They are using words like "my bunnies" or "service". Gameless actors who complain that a 8 doesn't look like a 9. If Cops go to a room, then only with girls who look like their daughters. Word.
All in all it was not the best visit on a cloudy Sunday, I wasn't in best shape, in the end Ivo kicked me out for violating house rules. But sometimes a man has to do what men has to do. I talked with open eyes, straight back, even if I have these boots in my keck, you know. But violating the dance ban and doing "illegal" hugging is enough reason to fly out. No bad blood from my side.
If Artemis would be open right now, I wouldn't go back. 80 Euro for 80 girls was a bad deal, but it was a deal. 90 Euro for 30 girls plus raised prices for making love isn't funny anymore. Let the privileged motherfuckers bring a vibe into the club's of the future.
I hope Artemis is able to survive.
Since 5 weeks the whole German night life is in shutdown. But the numbers are not falling, it's more like they are slightly rising since two weeks. So the effect of closing brothels is close to zero.
Just look at the other numbers. Before condom law Germany had about 400.000 hooker girls (if you believe media) and about 1. 000.000 men who went to hookers daily. That makes 2.5 customers per hooker per day on average.
At the beginning of 2020 Germany had only about 35.000 official hookers left. If they still had 1 million daily customers, every hooker had on average about 28 customers per day. I know this is pimp boys wet dream, but not realistic.
2 to 3 customers per hooker per day should be way more realistic. So you have only about 100.000 people in whole Germany who are "causing" social contacts in prostitution business.
To comparison, 11 Million pupils in Germany, 300.000 people from Hamburg who go to ski vacation and 200.000 cops in uniform.
So if you are a government dummy and you want to pressure down the numbers, what are you going to do?
Do you shutdown prostitution with this few freaks for month or do you do something that makes at least a tiny sense?
German government is not able to reflect themselves. 9 month pandemic and they are failing every day more.
I give you one last week, otherwise I tell the analog counter revolution were the biontec soup is stored.
You are reading right, you know, too many singing birds among your "loyal" Bundespolizei. You really thought that these natural born dirty cops are with you?
Last call.
(You don't know which posts are useful for the readers, even "largely argumentative" posts including important information. So hold your flap admin and greet your wife).
I haven't been to Artemis in quite a while. Is there still a gym within the club? Yes I'm the one unusual guy who would use it between rooms. Planning on a trip to Germany including Berlin with a bi girlfriend of mine. Hope the pandemic clears up by end of March for a decent opening of regular life.
Any suggestion for picking up girls in Berlin would be also cool. Thinking of staying in Friedrichshain. Thoughts? Cheers!
Sad day.
But I am human and still able to smile after I cry. I was crying three times last month, maybe I am pregnant. Other reasons are just not possible, you know. We are living in a wonderful world, everything else are alternative real fake news.
Sad message for the corona clan, 5,6,7 days after a last visit of mine, no symptoms. 14 days later no symptoms, nothing, although I belong to the high risk group, the very high risk group, I have a low to no immune system. If I don't smoke, I am sleeping or search for the lighter.
So is it possible that I am to dump to catch a virus that is even able to infect a mango? Am I more dump than a mango? Obviously, I mean where is it possible to catch a brand new super virus if not in a dark, more or less oxygen free club?
To dump to catch a virus.
(Side note for those who are denying corona. The virus is there! Really. The devil like virus must be there, somewhere. Maybe I was in the wrong room or bartenders put Sputnik V in my drinks.).
A few positive things about the hygienic concept were written here before. I can back them up.
Hygienic concepts in general are only hygienic concepts if health care authorities give them a go. So if anyone want to criticise the hygienic concept of Artemis, you have to criticise Berlin government and their health care authorities..Best post I have seen this whole year! Thanks brother! You should start doing a stand up!
I haven't been to Artemis in quite a while. Is there still a gym within the club? Yes I'm the one unusual guy who would use it between rooms. Planning on a trip to Germany including Berlin with a bi girlfriend of mine. Hope the pandemic clears up by end of March for a decent opening of regular life.
Any suggestion for picking up girls in Berlin would be also cool. Thinking of staying in Friedrichshain. Thoughts? Cheers!I was at Artemis last September in 2019, and there was still a gym then, so I doubt they removed it or will remove it!
Rambambinoz
12-30-20, 18:34
I haven't been to Artemis in quite a while. Is there still a gym within the club? Yes I'm the one unusual guy who would use it between rooms. Planning on a trip to Germany including Berlin with a bi girlfriend of mine. Hope the pandemic clears up by end of March for a decent opening of regular life.
Any suggestion for picking up girls in Berlin would be also cool. Thinking of staying in Friedrichshain. Thoughts? Cheers!Yes the gym is still there. Hardly anyone uses it though. I'd say if you're a first time guest, just relax and enjoy scoping the scene for just the right type of lady that tickles your fancy. The best thing about this setup is that if you have a precise look that appeals to you, then you will eventually see her walking around the club, not the gym. You can go to the gym anytime. Even when I've just had a session, I always spot my the next potential lady while relaxing, recovering in the lounge.
Yes the gym is still there. Hardly anyone uses it though. I'd say if you're a first time guest, just relax and enjoy scoping the scene for just the right type of lady that tickles your fancy. The best thing about this setup is that if you have a precise look that appeals to you, then you will eventually see her walking around the club, not the gym. You can go to the gym anytime. Even when I've just had a session, I always spot my the next potential lady while relaxing, recovering in the lounge.I don't know Artemis, never been, not sure looks are for me there, even I enjoyed German beauty Sofia at Globe on this Summer, but rather than Viagra or same, sport making work heart, lungs and moving blood, help to perform with girls. Being over 50, but could fuck a attractive beauty for more than 1 hour, even under 35 degrees, when some much younger fall down in clubs after taking Viagra, when I really don t need Viagra for fucking.
Rambambinoz
01-01-21, 04:17
I don't know Artemis, never been, not sure looks are for me there, even I enjoyed German beauty Sofia at Globe on this Summer, but rather than Viagra or same, sport making work heart, lungs and moving blood, help to perform with girls. Being over 50, but could fuck a attractive beauty for more than 1 hour, even under 35 degrees, when some much younger fall down in clubs after taking Viagra, when I really don t need Viagra for fucking.So do you do cardio or lift weights or something else? I'm in my 30's and don't have any issues yet, but I do run 10 km at least once a week. I just prefer not to tire myself out in a club unless I'm having actual sex. It seems a waste of a trip to spend any time in a gym when I've flown from a different country. Maybe for local people it's a different story.
Is there still a gym within the club? s!Yes it is.
Back in the days, I spent many times in that Gym on afternoons.
So do you do cardio or lift weights or something else? I'm in my 30's and don't have any issues yet, but I do run 10 km at least once a week. I just prefer not to tire myself out in a club unless I'm having actual sex. It seems a waste of a trip to spend any time in a gym when I've flown from a different country. Maybe for local people it's a different story.I prefer ski or bicycle mountains climbing, but my meaning was sport help to stay fit, firm body and powerful with girls and sport also help to recover faster to make energy to be able to repeat sex, when making blood moving faster with more oxygen in your body. I don t know Artemis, but I liked so much to play football in Oase garden, even killing my bare foot, girls telling: You prefer to play football? When some in their 30's guys need to take Viagra for girls, when at more than 50 , sport is my Viagra, some girls telling: You fuck more than in 20's guys. Sex is easy sport when You are really sporty and you impress more girls in bed.
VonderJohn
01-03-21, 18:11
I prefer ski or bicycle mountains climbing, but my meaning was sport help to stay fit, firm body and powerful with girls and sport also help to recover faster to make energy to be able to repeat sex, when making blood moving faster with more oxygen in your body. I don t know Artemis, but I liked so much to play football in Oase garden, even killing my bare foot, girls telling: You prefer to play football? When some in their 30's guys need to take Viagra for girls, when at more than 50 , sport is my Viagra, some girls telling: You fuck more than in 20's guys. Sex is easy sport when You are really sporty and you impress more girls in bed.This is a very good advice, perhaps the best advice in this thread so far. You need exercise to keep the sexercise. Especially HIT (high intensity training) which improves your blood flow, adrenaline, testosterones and desire to have sex, besides doing specific endurance exercises. This is the secret to better sex, which requires hard work and discipline, but pays off very well in bed.
Of course, you need to combine all that with a proper diet.
Yet, a lot of men seem to ignore it.
This is a very good advice, perhaps the best advice in this thread so far. You need exercise to keep the sexercise. Especially HIT (high intensity training) which improves your blood flow, adrenaline, testosterones and desire to have sex, besides doing specific endurance exercises. This is the secret to better sex, which requires hard work and discipline, but pays off very well in bed.
Of course, you need to combine all that with a proper diet.
Yet, a lot of men seem to ignore it.Sport for old who are able for efforts, Viagra for lazy smoking and drinking too much, free beer make fat and not good for performances, nor for breathe.
ExpatLover
01-04-21, 07:05
This is a very good advice, perhaps the best advice in this thread so far. You need exercise to keep the sexercise. Especially HIT (high intensity training) which improves your blood flow, adrenaline, testosterones and desire to have sex, besides doing specific endurance exercises. This is the secret to better sex, which requires hard work and discipline, but pays off very well in bed.
Of course, you need to combine all that with a proper diet.
Yet, a lot of men seem to ignore it.I think in life everything is matter of balance, exercising is very good, too much is bad. The life expectation for intensive sport people is shorter than for the others. As a example my mother is close to 90, healthy and never do any sport in her life. She always tells me all her friend who were doing a lot of sport are all dead some since many years.
I think in life everything is matter of balance, exercising is very good, too much is bad. The life expectation for intensive sport people is shorter than for the others. As a example my mother is close to 90, healthy and never do any sport in her life. She always tells me all her friend who were doing a lot of sport are all dead some since many years.Just ask medical. Yes, my doctors find I'm too extreme, but they are impressed by my results to tests and sport really help to stay powerful for sex, compare to beer, or drugs or even Viagra or same. As long I think I'm able to improve, I will keep on my sports, I like to feel in my body and mind.
ExpatLover
01-05-21, 20:38
Just ask medical. Yes, my doctors find I'm too extreme, but they are impressed by my results to tests and sport really help to stay powerful for sex, compare to beer, or drugs or even Viagra or same. As long I think I'm able to improve, I will keep on my sports, I like to feel in my body and mind.Yes you are right, but being powerful in sex is may be not the main target for many people, at least not for me, I don t need to be powerful with a prostitute, she is not looking for that, she is just looking for money that it is why I will never understand the guys who taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, if they can t just stay away and say your money.
Yes you are right, but being powerful in sex is may be not the main target for many people, at least not for me, I don t need to be powerful with a prostitute, she is not looking for that, she is just looking for money that it is why I will never understand the guys who taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, if they can t just stay away and say your money.Some mongers are so blind that they do not understand prostitutes are faking and acting for these sad mongers who think it is all real LOL!
Yes you are right, but being powerful in sex is may be not the main target for many people, at least not for me, I don t need to be powerful with a prostitute, she is not looking for that, she is just looking for money that it is why I will never understand the guys who taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, if they can t just stay away and say your money.When I have to be very careful with most of girls, because big and hard they say, but proud about this and also not to need to take Viagra when over 50, when beauty, elegance and charm make me easily and naturally hard. On the other hand, vulgarity kill my mood and desire. You don't like me anymore? Told my best FKK girl, when I drove so much for her, weekly, but her image became killing desire for me, so I preferred to stop and she became angry. When I don't need to have my ass washed by girls, but I do myself, taking all my time under shower where I don't need to hide, but I love and work to make cum beauties, reminding me my past real life and for real and woman reactions at this moment, enjoyable being some girls helping for this, rubbing clit on tongue or telling their spots, funny game, many saying thank you for pleasure, but of course we are all different as say girls. Really not difficult to feel if real orgasmus or not, when you have already given in your life.
VonderJohn
01-06-21, 15:09
Some mongers are so blind that they do not understand prostitutes are faking and acting for these sad mongers who think it is all real LOL!Why should we care about the prostitute or her reaction?
All what I care about is for me to have a pleasurable sexual experience. What does that mean?
1) Last longer.
2) Bang harder.
3) Endurance and energy (trying multiple positions and prostitutes while still being hard).
I don't care if the prostitute remains silent all throughout. The above three are what bring me pleasure. No?
Why should we care about the prostitute or her reaction?
All what I care about is for me to have a pleasurable sexual experience. What does that mean?
1) Last longer.
2) Bang harder.
3) Endurance and energy (trying multiple positions and prostitutes while still being hard).
I don't care if the prostitute remains silent all throughout. The above three are what bring me pleasure. No?I would just answer: depend of model of sex you had previously in your life. Of course, some seem they learned sex with prostitutes. Sad.
BigBuddy69
01-06-21, 19:43
Why should we care about the prostitute or her reaction?Maybe because she's an human being and usually, sex involves two persons?
Why should we care about the prostitute or her reaction?
All what I care about is for me to have a pleasurable sexual experience. What does that mean?
1) Last longer.
2) Bang harder.
3) Endurance and energy (trying multiple positions and prostitutes while still being hard).
I don't care if the prostitute remains silent all throughout. The above three are what bring me pleasure. No?Pleasure is not the correct word.
Why should we care about the prostitute or her reaction?
All what I care about is for me to have a pleasurable sexual experience. What does that mean?
1) Last longer.
2) Bang harder.
3) Endurance and energy (trying multiple positions and prostitutes while still being hard).
I don't care if the prostitute remains silent all throughout. The above three are what bring me pleasure. No?Yeah as long as I do get what I want sexually in room which for me is more than 3 criteria you mentioned as I like dirty hardcore sex, but yeah I am not into getting too involved with prostitutes like some mongers are obsessed with remembering their fake names etc.
However, I do not force things I want to do in room though, I convince them as I do care about their well being as human, but it does not mean they will not provide me what I want to do in room as I am also a paying customer, so certain service is expected to be given to me which I get soon or later, so I am a happy customer of FKK LOL!
Maybe because she's an human being and usually, sex involves two persons?The human right preacher who fuck girls for money LOL!
ExpatLover
01-07-21, 17:19
Yeah as long as I do get what I want sexually in room which for me is more than 3 criteria you mentioned as I like dirty hardcore sex, but yeah I am not into getting too involved with prostitutes like some mongers are obsessed with remembering their fake names etc.
However, I do not force things I want to do in room though, I convince them as I do care about their well being as human, but it does not mean they will not provide me what I want to do in room as I am also a paying customer, so certain service is expected to be given to me which I get soon or later, so I am a happy customer of FKK LOL!For me as only beauty matters, I have no expectations (therefor no disappointments) and 0 discussions before going to the room, if the chemistry between us is not at the expected level I will give her 50 euros and leave the room.
For me as only beauty matters, I have no expectations (therefor no disappointments) and 0 discussions before going to the room, if the chemistry between us is not at the expected level I will give her 50 euros and leave the room.Same here, but I would give 60 euro and not 50 euro buddy, 50 euro may get into problem with security, it is 60 euro in Artemis LOL!
And hey, I hear Artemis raised that 60 to 70 euro per 30 min! This year, is this true?
For me as only beauty matters, I have no expectations (therefor no disappointments) and 0 discussions before going to the room, if the chemistry between us is not at the expected level I will give her 50 euros and leave the room.I need to have a minimum talk, not for hours because I hate gossiping, but before going for sex, I don t go with zimmer? I need to know name and where from, just to look at a woman, not looking at a piece of meat. When I don t see a woman, then I don t go, and of course if I don t feel woman reactions in room, I won t repeat. I prefer a limited potential with woman behavior than a performing robot, why Romanians are more interesting for me than Germans, even Sofia. De ex Artemis was interesting for sex at Globe. Many girls seem to appreciate to be treated like a woman, valuating them, making them choose.
Carpaccio18
01-09-21, 00:30
Yes you are right, but being powerful in sex is may be not the main target for many people, at least not for me, I don t need to be powerful with a prostitute, she is not looking for that, she is just looking for money that it is why I will never understand the guys who taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, if they can t just stay away and say your money.Well, I do Viagra when I go to FKKs. But not because I want to feel mighty and powerfull and make the girls happy. Nope. I certainly can perform without, but I frankly get a much better experience myself because of the viagra, and I can do 3-4 sessions in one evening on top of a couple of beers. That wouldn't work without the V.
So for me its simply an enabler of an enjoyable evening.
ExpatLover
01-09-21, 01:12
I need to have a minimum talk, not for hours because I hate gossiping, but before going for sex, I don t go with zimmer? I need to know name and where from, just to look at a woman, not looking at a piece of meat. When I don t see a woman, then I don t go, and of course if I don t feel woman reactions in room, I won t repeat. I prefer a limited potential with woman behavior than a performing robot, why Romanians are more interesting for me than Germans, even Sofia. De ex Artemis was interesting for sex at Globe. Many girls seem to appreciate to be treated like a woman, valuating them, making them choose.Everyone is different, for me the name is not the real one and usually they are cheating with the countries or city of origin. P6 is a fake world, the girls and the mongers are telling stories even not speaking about the guys who are married or in a fix and long relation not able to tell the truth to their spouse or GF. I am a basic guy, always repeating the same things for me only beauty matters and as I am only going with natural girls I believe that is the only thing that is the reality.
ExpatLover
01-09-21, 01:21
Well, I do Viagra when I go to FKKs. But not because I want to feel mighty and powerfull and make the girls happy. Nope. I certainly can perform without, but I frankly get a much better experience myself because of the viagra, and I can do 3-4 sessions in one evening on top of a couple of beers. That wouldn't work without the V.
So for me its simply an enabler of an enjoyable evening.Everyone is different, I never took any Viagra in my life and you will never find me in a FKK or with a escort after 7 PM. I don t drink alcohol when I am mongering, I want to keep my head clean and as I am starting my FKK day at the opening of the club I want to be able to change place with my car so no alcohol. I never drink and drive even 1 class.
Everyone is different, I never took any Viagra in my life and you will never find me in a FKK or with a escort after 7 PM. I don t drink alcohol when I am mongering, I want to keep my head clean and as I am starting my FKK day at the opening of the club I want to be able to change place with my car so no alcohol. I never drink and drive even 1 class.Well then you are missing out best line up in some clubs including Artemis as it is night shift club!
Everyone is different, for me the name is not the real one and usually they are cheating with the countries or city of origin. P6 is a fake world, the girls and the mongers are telling stories even not speaking about the guys who are married or in a fix and long relation not able to tell the truth to their spouse or GF. I am a basic guy, always repeating the same things for me only beauty matters and as I am only going with natural girls I believe that is the only thing that is the reality.Of course, they first give only business name and I'm not really interested by real name or when few show their ID to prove their real name when I never asked for, and some Romanians say they are Spanish, or Italian, or French but not with me when they know I m French and I answer like with beauty Karin at Sharks who told me she was Spanish, bad luck because I prefer Romanian girls, so she looked at me like: what is this guy when most others prefer not Romanian, and said: I live in Spain but I was born in Romania. So I said: great, then I would be happy we try, what a sophisticated beauty, and of course we repeated. She was one of my 4 regulars at Sharks at this time, complicated between them. I like and most of Romanians say they are from deep Romania, kind of exotic for me, speaking about mountains around Brasov, or about famous university in Craiova, or about Oradea. I don t like when girls say: Bucharest capital. When I don t go with girls just saying: Zimmer? But short chat, the way they speak and look at me, give me information's about what should be her behavior in room. I remember at LR, a real beauty but I didn't like her behavior, even no public exhibition in lounge, so I didn't give her attention for months she saw me as she told me, but once, when casting was so down, I was told by a US here about a new girl I should find pretty, when she was not new at all, for more than 1 year and half in club even she made few months break, but no other attractive, so I decided to go to her, I asked her if I could sit with her, even she saw me many times with my previous, we had a nice short chat and when I felt how she talked to me and her exceptional care for herself with French manicure, I felt she should be very different from her crazy behavior in lounge, and for sure, she was a so good surprise and of course we repeated weekly and she prepared me sandwich when we finished and no more pizza, this same US telling: I would prefer your sandwich than pizzas, I would have preferred pizzas but really lovely behavior after our room. He should have gone with her, then he could experience if he deserved to be prepared like from a little wife, but he preferred just to tell me and showed her my writings here, very different guys we are. Nice chat can give good information's when I look for woman behavior. On the other hand, with previous regular than her, chat became so boring gossiping, when she was so charming to chat when we started, but when she was told by other guys about Daria and Kate, she turned to gossiping specialist, I m not like her about Daria, I know You have another girl about Kate, so when she came weekly to me to start her day, I knew she needed a bit of time for coffee and cigarette, no hurry for me, I could wait, we sit together but I didn't speak, just asking: are You stressed with me? To need to smoke, then she smiled, telling: If I didn't want, I would not come to You, and I was waiting when she was ready to go to room, but not rushing her, when others were waiting. I have no interest to speak or hear about others, she became just to worth for her interesting behavior in bed, but not anymore interesting for her image, becoming too prostitute behavior. Chat can make attraction, or kill desire.
BigBuddy69
01-09-21, 22:19
Well then you are missing out best line up in some clubs including Artemis as it is night shift club!He's more like a tea saloon guy.
Carpaccio18
01-09-21, 23:34
Everyone is different, I never took any Viagra in my life and you will never find me in a FKK or with a escort after 7 PM. I don t drink alcohol when I am mongering, I want to keep my head clean and as I am starting my FKK day at the opening of the club I want to be able to change place with my car so no alcohol. I never drink and drive even 1 class.Indeed, everyone is different. What you describe seem quite too transactional for my taste.
But in any case, I'm not embarassed by using V, its not like you're cheating using performance enhancers in a sports match. For me, I like to have a good evening, a beer, enjoy the view of naked women strolling around, do a session, hang out, repeat. Thats my kind of evening.
I've done full days in summer at Oase, hanging around the pool and the garden, doing some outside fun too. Thats cool and very nice too.
Carpaccio18
01-09-21, 23:35
Well then you are missing out best line up in some clubs including Artemis as it is night shift club!Right on, sir.
Lilia now advertise in berlinintim for those who missed her (she is looking great).
Some other girls are there as well.
Lilia now advertise in berlinintim for those who missed her (she is looking great).
Some other girls are there as well.Under what's name? I did not see the name Liila there.
I also noticed some of those girls are from FKK, it would be nice if there is a site where you can see FKK girls and which FKK they will be at to work on what day and time or at least date!
Under what's name? I did not see the name Liila there.
I also noticed some of those girls are from FKK, it would be nice if there is a site where you can see FKK girls and which FKK they will be at to work on what day and time or at least date!Under the name Lilly.
SobeLizard
01-22-21, 05:21
Aliyah, 23 Years, female, bisexual.
I offer:
Bizarre plays, Finger and dildo games, Wellness massages, French, Medical massage, Kissing, Erotic massages, Golden shower, Other and Intercourse.
https://www.berlinintim.com/escort-aliyah-52083.html?t=XLWPW
Rambambinoz
01-22-21, 18:32
Under the name Lilly.Yeah that's her tattoo. My last trip was the only time I've noticed her. I'd definitely be trying to meet her again if I lived in the area.
Aliyah, 23 Years, female, bisexual.
I offer:
Bizarre plays, Finger and dildo games, Wellness massages, French, Medical massage, Kissing, Erotic massages, Golden shower, Other and Intercourse.
https://www.berlinintim.com/escort-aliyah-52083.html?t=XLWPWSo porn face, remind me Maya at Bruggen, killing desire, how can we kiss such face.
Carpaccio18
01-22-21, 23:07
Bloody hell I am looking forward to Artemis opening again! Need me some FKK. Watch, bang, drink, repeat.
ExpatLover
01-23-21, 01:56
Yeah that's her tattoo. My last trip was the only time I've noticed her. I'd definitely be trying to meet her again if I lived in the area.Sorry it is definitively not the kind of girls I am looking for, so far from a real young natural beauty. A no go for me but there must be girls for everyone taste.
Dilara can be found in Hamburg:
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/hamburg-dilara-10037553
Sorry it is definitively not the kind of girls I am looking for, so far from a real young natural beauty. A no go for me but there must be girls for everyone taste.Lilia is too natural beauty for me. I like them with the smell of perfume and cigarette, lingerie, high heels and makeup.
PinballMachine
01-23-21, 11:37
Under what's name? I did not see the name Liila there.
I also noticed some of those girls are from FKK, it would be nice if there is a site where you can see FKK girls and which FKK they will be at to work on what day and time or at least date!What other FKK-girls have you found?
Lilia is too natural beauty for me. I like them with the smell of perfume and cigarette, lingerie, high heels and makeup.Then Artemis is the place to be for you with that chimney main bar LOL!
Sorry it is definitively not the kind of girls I am looking for, so far from a real young natural beauty. A no go for me but there must be girls for everyone taste.Some are excited just because girls are German, most often tattooed and silicon looking like porn dolls, Deutsch qualitat as they say, when only few Germans are attractive look for me and Romanians are usually higher level for love in bed.
What other FKK-girls have you found?I meant they look like by looking at their tattoo and silicones that I despise, but how can one tell as faces are all censored and I do not go with girls with tattoos usually LOL!
Rambambinoz
01-24-21, 03:24
Dilara can be found in Hamburg:
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/hamburg-dilara-10037553Great find! Dilara was my first girl on my first Artemis visit. Service was average but it's nice to see her photos for the wank bank!
The second time I banged her, she was really pushy on up selling FK and OWO which I declined. Refused to continue OW for longer than 10-15 seconds stating she hates the taste of condom and I should've opted for OWO as extra. Didn't want to do cowgirl for longer than 10--15 seconds either, to which I politely explained that I'm the paying customer and was having none of that bullshit. She tried giving me a bollocks guilt trip saying she initially thought I was a nice man blah blah blah. I made her work hard for her 60 and she rode me in cowgirl until I came. On the way to the lockers she tried disputing we've met before, I assured her that I'd even written I nice review to which she was gobsmacked that punters share this kind of info! She all of a sudden became really touchy feely and gave good parting kiss. Honestly would not recommend.
I think German blonde Lena is also from Hamburg, all natural no tattoos. Would be interested to see her if she was available independently.
ExpatLover
01-24-21, 07:40
Great find! Dilara was my first girl on my first Artemis visit. Service was average but it's nice to see her photos for the wank bank!
The second time I banged her, she was really pushy on up selling FK and OWO which I declined. Refused to continue OW for longer than 10-15 seconds stating she hates the taste of condom and I should've opted for OWO as extra. Didn't want to do cowgirl for longer than 10--15 seconds either, to which I politely explained that I'm the paying customer and was having none of that bullshit. She tried giving me a bollocks guilt trip saying she initially thought I was a nice man blah blah blah. I made her work hard for her 60 and she rode me in cowgirl until I came. On the way to the lockers she tried disputing we've met before, I assured her that I'd even written I nice review to which she was gobsmacked that punters share this kind of info! She all of a sudden became really touchy feely and gave good parting kiss. Honestly would not recommend.
I think German blonde Lena is also from Hamburg, all natural no tattoos. Would be interested to see her if she was available independently.Sorry I will never pay 1 euro for the girl I saw on the pictures, silicone, botox, probably 35+, a real no go for me.
Great find! Dilara was my first girl on my first Artemis visit. Service was average but it's nice to see her photos for the wank bank!
The second time I banged her, she was really pushy on up selling FK and OWO which I declined. Refused to continue OW for longer than 10-15 seconds stating she hates the taste of condom and I should've opted for OWO as extra. Didn't want to do cowgirl for longer than 10--15 seconds either, to which I politely explained that I'm the paying customer and was having none of that bullshit. She tried giving me a bollocks guilt trip saying she initially thought I was a nice man blah blah blah. I made her work hard for her 60 and she rode me in cowgirl until I came. On the way to the lockers she tried disputing we've met before, I assured her that I'd even written I nice review to which she was gobsmacked that punters share this kind of info! She all of a sudden became really touchy feely and gave good parting kiss. Honestly would not recommend.Needing to behave beggar and play grocer, would have killed my mood and desire, I would have left room giving her 60, not to waste my time with such low level business girl, when most enjoyable for me is what girls will to give me back from how I treat them. No value when begging, then just prostitute making the job, I really hate this feeling.
Rambambinoz
01-24-21, 21:09
Sorry I will never pay 1 euro for the girl I saw on the pictures, silicone, botox, probably 35+, a real no go for me.I saw her like 5 years ago and she didn't look 35. Don't know how she can look 35 in pictures that are blurred to conceal her identity. I think her tits were very well done tbh.
Needing to behave beggar and play grocer, would have killed my mood and desire, I would have left room giving her 60, not to waste my time with such low level business girl, when most enjoyable for me is what girls will to give me back from how I treat them. No value when begging, then just prostitute making the job, I really hate this feeling.I'm not giving anyone free money. She perhaps had so many previous punters let her get away with it and expected I would allow her to do the same. I got what I wanted in the end by being firm. Had the pleasure of 6 other great ladies that night, so it didn't affect my overall mood. But I can understand if someone is only seeking time with 1 or 2 and would rather focus on an alternative pro.
Carpaccio18
01-25-21, 00:53
Needing to behave beggar and play grocer, would have killed my mood and desire, I would have left room giving her 60, not to waste my time with such low level business girl, when most enjoyable for me is what girls will to give me back from how I treat them. No value when begging, then just prostitute making the job, I really hate this feeling.Wholeheartedly agree with you. Aint nothing worse than those girls going "I don't do this, I don't do that, doggy is extra, don't touch my ass, don't touch my nipples, your dick is too big for doggy etc etc". And then only take like 1 inch of the tip of dick, after trying to get you to finish in 2 minutes doing a brutal handjob that would leave willy sore for a week if you didn't stop her.
I have walked out off those scenes every time.
ExpatLover
01-25-21, 03:11
I saw her like 5 years ago and she didn't look 35. Don't know how she can look 35 in pictures that are blurred to conceal her identity. I think her tits were very well done tbh.
I'm not giving anyone free money. She perhaps had so many previous punters let her get away with it and expected I would allow her to do the same. I got what I wanted in the end by being firm. Had the pleasure of 6 other great ladies that night, so it didn't affect my overall mood. But I can understand if someone is only seeking time with 1 or 2 and would rather focus on an alternative pro.Sorry but when now I look at the pictures she is not looking like a 20 YO fresh, natural beauty, everyone taste is different for me she is far from being a stunner and I only pay for young, fresh, stunners. You are a great fucker, impossible for me to come 7 times in one evening.
Great find! Dilara was my first girl on my first Artemis visit. Service was average but it's nice to see her photos for the wank bank!
The second time I banged her, she was really pushy on up selling FK and OWO which I declined. Refused to continue OW for longer than 10-15 seconds stating she hates the taste of condom and I should've opted for OWO as extra. Didn't want to do cowgirl for longer than 10--15 seconds either, to which I politely explained that I'm the paying customer and was having none of that bullshit. She tried giving me a bollocks guilt trip saying she initially thought I was a nice man blah blah blah. I made her work hard for her 60 and she rode me in cowgirl until I came. On the way to the lockers she tried disputing we've met before, I assured her that I'd even written I nice review to which she was gobsmacked that punters share this kind of info! She all of a sudden became really touchy feely and gave good parting kiss. Honestly would not recommend.
I think German blonde Lena is also from Hamburg, all natural no tattoos. Would be interested to see her if she was available independently.I had a session with Dilara and it was great PSE. Will repeat.
Sex cyborg Zoe:
https://www.berlinintim.de/privatmodell-zoe-47613.html?t=XWYOW
You wouldn't last 10 minutes with her.
Wholeheartedly agree with you. Aint nothing worse than those girls going "I don't do this, I don't do that, doggy is extra, don't touch my ass, don't touch my nipples, your dick is too big for doggy etc etc". And then only take like 1 inch of the tip of dick, after trying to get you to finish in 2 minutes doing a brutal handjob that would leave willy sore for a week if you didn't stop her.
I have walked out off those scenes every time.I never accept HJ, I find this a bit humiliating to be finished like this, I prefer not to finish. I also refuse CBJ, I prefer no BJ. And when I feel, even always trying to adapt to the girl, she tries to avoid something, fortunately not often experienced, but then I prefer to stop, because make me feel very uncomfortable and killing my mood. I loved when a busy superstar told me, smiling: Welcome home, when I entered her, even had to be careful not to hurt her, or when girls wide open and holding my arms, sometimes with their nails in skin. Upselling and grocery are killing desire. My regular girls are those with who we never speak about money, just time spent talk for arithmetic.
ExpatLover
01-25-21, 12:21
Sex cyborg Zoe:
https://www.berlinintim.de/privatmodell-zoe-47613.html?t=XWYOW
You wouldn't last 10 minutes with her.I will not last 1 second, will never session such kind of veteran, with silicon boobs, Braun skin prostitute, I am looking for fresh, natural beauty with milky skin, but why paying for those kind of woman better one are available in normal life for free.
Rambambinoz
01-25-21, 17:45
Sorry but when now I look at the pictures she is not looking like a 20 YO fresh, natural beauty, everyone taste is different for me she is far from being a stunner and I only pay for young, fresh, stunners. You are a great fucker, impossible for me to come 7 times in one evening.It was more like 3 pm to 3 am, so lots of recovery time! And I was only 30 year old then!
Sex cyborg Zoe:
https://www.berlinintim.de/privatmodell-zoe-47613.html?t=XWYOW
You wouldn't last 10 minutes with her.I found her very attractive in person (especially her eyes), she jumped on me in the kino and her sexy demeanor had me hard before we even entered the room. I refused her tactics at up selling extras which she was visibly unhappy with and the whole punt went downhill from there. OW was great but she was rushing for sex, then quickly did a couple of positions before she complained about me not staying hard and demanded to wank me off instead. I stopped her and explained that her rushing me is ruining the punt and that she's going to give me another blowjob, she then gave me some excellent OW and I banged her in doggy until I came. Out of about 30 girls I've banged in that place, this is the only other one that was rushed and disappointing.
Rambambinoz
01-25-21, 20:03
https://www.berlinintim.com/callgirl-jackeline-52288.html?t=XLWPW
I haven't punted her but I'm quite sure sure it's the same lady. She came across well when I spoke to her, just not my type.
I found her very attractive in person (especially her eyes), she jumped on me in the kino and her sexy demeanor had me hard before we even entered the room. I refused her tactics at up selling extras which she was visibly unhappy with and the whole punt went downhill from there. OW was great but she was rushing for sex, then quickly did a couple of positions before she complained about me not staying hard and demanded to wank me off instead. I stopped her and explained that her rushing me is ruining the punt and that she's going to give me another blowjob, she then gave me some excellent OW and I banged her in doggy until I came. Out of about 30 girls I've banged in that place, this is the only other one that was rushed and disappointing.The mother of all sharks, I didn't session with her, its pointless.
Another Artemis veteran, don't remember her name:
https://erotik.markt.de/berlin/sie-sucht-ihn/heisse+ungarin/a/c61f0154/
ExpatLover
01-25-21, 22:11
Wholeheartedly agree with you. Aint nothing worse than those girls going "I don't do this, I don't do that, doggy is extra, don't touch my ass, don't touch my nipples, your dick is too big for doggy etc etc". And then only take like 1 inch of the tip of dick, after trying to get you to finish in 2 minutes doing a brutal handjob that would leave willy sore for a week if you didn't stop her.
I have walked out off those scenes every time.But that is mostly what you are getting from all the stunners, why should they give more? Imagine you are a prostitute and 10 man every day want to fuck you in the ass, will you give your best to man you don t like, you don t know specially when the business is good. The beautiful and clever girls will protect their body and are not willing to get fuck hard or a long time only the stupid one will accept that.
Another Artemis veteran, don't remember her name:
https://erotik.markt.de/berlin/sie-sucht-ihn/heisse+ungarin/a/c61f0154/Looks like Virginia.
ExpatLover
01-27-21, 13:32
Looks like Virginia.Looks more like a veteran girl, with Botox and sili even for free I will not go with her.
Rambambinoz
01-27-21, 19:47
Looks more like a veteran girl, with Botox and sili even for free I will not go with her.During a day visit, I was once offered 'free sex' by a short slim brunette as I was leaving the club area for the stairs. She was only 7/10, so not worth my time. I'm curious now what the catch / scam / trick was, has this been offered to anyone else?
During a day visit, I was once offered 'free sex' by a short slim brunette as I was leaving the club area for the stairs. She was only 7/10, so not worth my time. I'm curious now what the catch / scam / trick was, has this been offered to anyone else?I don't go with girls out of clubs, my way for love sex stay in club for me, but at Bruggen, I was paid by a guy to see my performances, I refused but he went to my half German girl at this moment when he used to speak a lot with her, and they came to ask me, he paid her and me, I gave his money to her at the end, she was happy to get 200 for 1 hour, he only watched, turning around the bed, she became really hot for sex. A French also asked to see my performances, I really don't need to see others performances, I learned with my girlfriends, I didn't learn much in brothels, just to adapt to small pussies I was not used to in real life where normal women seem happy to see and feel something. I don't answer about: You should come to Romania, this is a beautiful country, you could ski, I prefer just for sexual games and I like to weekly enjoy elegance, charm, sensuality and erotism, but not my image for girlfriend.
SobeLizard
01-28-21, 20:08
Another Artemis veteran, don't remember her name:
https://erotik.markt.de/berlin/sie-sucht-ihn/heisse+ungarin/a/c61f0154/I seen her many times.
She is one of my favorites.
Now that is what I call a stunner!
https://www.berlinintim.com/callgirl-crystal-52074.html?t=WLMPW
Anyone know if this Crystal is the real deal or a bait and switch?
Wish I was in Berlin right now as it seems like a lot of tasty ones are advertising on Berlinintim.
Even the Colombian anal porn star Veronica Leal is on there. I wouldn't mind taking her deep in the ass. And Crystal too.
https://www.berlinintim.com/gastmodell-veronica_leal-52647.html?t=WLXPW
Member #4733
01-29-21, 09:24
Why do all these girls look so much better in pictures then when I saw them in real life. Oh, of course, late in the evening, already exhausted after 10 plus sessions. Dream on.
Now that is what I call a stunner!
https://www.berlinintim.com/callgirl-crystal-52074.html?t=WLMPW
Anyone know if this Crystal is the real deal or a bait and switch?
Wish I was in Berlin right now as it seems like a lot of tasty ones are advertising on Berlinintim.
Even the Colombian anal porn star Veronica Leal is on there. I wouldn't mind taking her deep in the ass. And Crystal too.
https://www.berlinintim.com/gastmodell-veronica_leal-52647.html?t=WLXPWNo wow for looks, too porn, but quite cheap rate for escorts 150/60.
Now that is what I call a stunner!
https://www.berlinintim.com/callgirl-crystal-52074.html?t=WLMPW
Anyone know if this Crystal is the real deal or a bait and switch?
Wish I was in Berlin right now as it seems like a lot of tasty ones are advertising on Berlinintim.
Even the Colombian anal porn star Veronica Leal is on there. I wouldn't mind taking her deep in the ass. And Crystal too.
https://www.berlinintim.com/gastmodell-veronica_leal-52647.html?t=WLXPWHi,
I'm agree with you: this is a stunner.
Now that is what I call a stunner!
https://www.berlinintim.com/callgirl-crystal-52074.html?t=WLMPW
Anyone know if this Crystal is the real deal or a bait and switch?
Wish I was in Berlin right now as it seems like a lot of tasty ones are advertising on Berlinintim.
Even the Colombian anal porn star Veronica Leal is on there. I wouldn't mind taking her deep in the ass. And Crystal too.
https://www.berlinintim.com/gastmodell-veronica_leal-52647.html?t=WLXPWThe blonde one is real stunner if the same girl comes as the photo, man, 150 euro per hour, that is too cheap for escort like her, it smell fishy!
Hi,
I'm agree with you: this is a stunner.I don't find her attractive at all. Don't like her face. Different strokes for different folks. Different dicks for different chicks!
I don't find her attractive at all. Don't like her face. Different strokes for different folks. Different dicks for different chicks!Nice rhyming technique LOL!
I don't find her attractive at all. Don't like her face. Different strokes for different folks. Different dicks for different chicks!Some are excited by porn looks, from porn culture, when I like looks and manners like women in real life, much more interesting and desirable for me and when they lose this, then I prefer to stop, even when had a great last day with our 2 usual rooms for 3 hours with a lot of foreplay and she improved a lot for this, but when she said: You don't like me anymore? Just no more desire for her new image from her new behavior.
I don't find her attractive at all. Don't like her face. Different strokes for different folks. Different dicks for different chicks!The face looked to me like one of those photoshop or AI creations where a few faces have been blended. That cheek and jaw bone could cut a razor. The last time I was in Artemis, I didn't find anyone super attractive, it was early. I got to talking to a lady who really was pretty sexy and the next thing I know I'm going upstairs with her. I can't even remember what she looked like. If you were to ask me what she looked like, I'm sure I'd say very sexy and attractive, but all I can remember is how firm her ass was?
Sometimes beauty is in the moment (or the ass).
TeddyBears
02-05-21, 00:35
Dilara can be found in Hamburg:
https://www.ladies.de/sex-anzeigen/huren-hostessen/hamburg-dilara-10037553Oh Dilara the queen of upsell! Hahaha now with all this corona bullshit I almost miss her! LOL.
I had a session with her but it was actually cheaper than it should have been, €200 for one hour including anal. I got this price because I was a regular client with her friend Kisha / Felicity I think her name was changed to? She was also from Hamburg just like Dilara and Aileen.
Anyone knows if "Kisha / Felicity" or Aileen still works in this profession?
Does anyone know it German "Zara" does escort? Or that super tall skinny half Indian half German girl?
Does anyone know it German "Zara" does escort? Or that super tall skinny half Indian half German girl?There was a super tall skinny dark hot Romanian doing only night shifts, don't remember her name, sitting on the sofa across the main bar.
If she is the one I would like to know that as well.
Oh Dilara the queen of upsell! Hahaha now with all this corona bullshit I almost miss her! LOL.
I had a session with her but it was actually cheaper than it should have been, 200 for one hour including anal. I got this price because I was a regular client with her friend Kisha / Felicity I think her name was changed to? She was also from Hamburg just like Dilara and Aileen.
Anyone knows if "Kisha / Felicity" or Aileen still works in this profession?The 3 some I had with Dilara and Aileen is unforgettable.
Rambambinoz
02-22-21, 21:45
The 3 some I had with Dilara and Aileen is unforgettable.Did you cum on Aileen?
Traveller63
03-03-21, 13:09
Did you cum on Aileen?As Jackie Wilson Said.
Sebastiane
03-03-21, 18:05
Which other FKK girls from either Germany or Switzerland are available as escorts on berlinintim?
Did you cum on Aileen?Dexys midnight runners on 1981? I loved same disc first song: oh Gino.
The blonde one is real stunner if the same girl comes as the photo, man, 150 euro per hour, that is too cheap for escort like her, it smell fishy!It's not fishy but of course there is a list of extras for extra money starting with OWO for 50.
Which other FKK girls from either Germany or Switzerland are available as escorts on berlinintim?Jenna is touring Germany, see https://twitter.com/jennanova.
ExpatLover
03-04-21, 13:41
Jenna is touring Germany, see https://twitter.com/jennanova.She matches 100% all what I hate from a woman.
BigBuddy69
03-04-21, 20:45
The blonde one is real stunner if the same girl comes as the photo, man, 150 euro per hour, that is too cheap for escort like her, it smell fishy!Fake bloobs and the face looks heavily photoshopped. Or she has an abusive surgeon.
Jenna is touring Germany, see https://twitter.com/jennanova.That's the one at Artemis who I refer to as the prototypical "plastic monster". Eeewww, eeeewww, eewwwwww!
Fake bloobs and the face looks heavily photoshopped. Or she has an abusive surgeon.I stick to the venue where I can see them in front of me under the good light before the sex, in Artemis where the stairs are!
Carpaccio18
03-12-21, 23:48
Jenna is touring Germany, see https://twitter.com/jennanova.She looks like a duck.
She looks like a duck.And an ugly one at that. The ugly duckling!
Carpaccio18
03-12-21, 23:51
As Jackie Wilson Said.Now I can never listen to that song again without a stupid grin on my face. ROFL.
Carpaccio18
03-12-21, 23:58
The face looked to me like one of those photoshop or AI creations where a few faces have been blended. That cheek and jaw bone could cut a razor. The last time I was in Artemis, I didn't find anyone super attractive, it was early. I got to talking to a lady who really was pretty sexy and the next thing I know I'm going upstairs with her. I can't even remember what she looked like. If you were to ask me what she looked like, I'm sure I'd say very sexy and attractive, but all I can remember is how firm her ass was?
Sometimes beauty is in the moment (or the ass).I was once at some small FKK somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Think it was called Babylon. Very homely and they insisted on one of the girls giving me a tour of the place. All I remember was staring at her ass in front of me. Up the stairs, down the stair, everyehere. Great tour.
Fucked her out back by the pool at the end of the tour.
Jenna is touring Germany, see https://twitter.com/jennanova.So ugly, blind with no hands are lucky.
Got database error last time tried to respond so here I go again.
While I agree that Jenna / Nova is a beauty according to whatever standards are current. You have not done everything this hobby has to offer until you book a session with Jenna / Nova. This lady is a legend in the business. Also I never experienced sharkish behavior or any BS from here just pure professionalism. And if there is something this hobby has learned me is that optics is the last parameter you judge a women by.
And an ugly one at that. The ugly duckling!Plastic monsters, but some mongers like it plastic because they think it is fantastic LOL! Me, I stick to my natural beauty stunner as one can be in FKK, which is first year of the girl entering the industry most of time, then they go plastic factory to self destruct their looks! Why? It comes with the territory of FKK!
Got database error last time tried to respond so here I go again.
While I agree that Jenna / Nova is a beauty according to whatever standards are current. You have not done everything this hobby has to offer until you book a session with Jenna / Nova. This lady is a legend in the business. Also I never experienced sharkish behavior or any BS from here just pure professionalism. And if there is something this hobby has learned me is that optics is the last parameter you judge a women by.Agree.
She is a really nice person and her service is in a different level.
Plastic monsters, but some mongers like it plastic because they think it is fantastic LOL! Me, I stick to my natural beauty stunner as one can be in FKK, which is first year of the girl entering the industry most of time, then they go plastic factory to self destruct their looks! Why? It comes with the territory of FKK!The last time I was at Artemis, I saw a guy who was preparing to go to the zimmer with that ugly duckling. He was shaking his head side to side and smacking and licking his lips with greedy desire like he had just struck the mother lode of gold or something. In the meantime, her look literally scared the hell out of me! If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck in an FKK? Then it's probably a plastic monster!
Agree.
She is a really nice person and her service is in a different level.She may be lovely and tornado for sex, I don't know and don't want to know with such look. I would not want she touch me. While break, like 1 year ago, when I look at normal women, speaking with them, I find them with so much more charm and so much more interesting. Will be complicated like 1 year ago, to feel attraction. Again hard job to succeed to find one desirable.
ExpatLover
03-21-21, 11:42
Got database error last time tried to respond so here I go again.
While I agree that Jenna / Nova is a beauty according to whatever standards are current. You have not done everything this hobby has to offer until you book a session with Jenna / Nova. This lady is a legend in the business. Also I never experienced sharkish behavior or any BS from here just pure professionalism. And if there is something this hobby has learned me is that optics is the last parameter you judge a women by.Can't follow you, beauty is the only and solo driver for me, the rest I don't care with a prostitute. I only pay for top stunners that is why I am leaving the FKK so many times with 0 rooms. Let us imagine we go to a 3 stars Michelin restaurant and they will put the food without any presentation like at home, I am not sure many will agree. Esthetic is obviously essential for a 3 stars like beauty for a prostitute.
Art is my favorite place for punting and I'm missing it.
I have been with 63 different women over there. I celebrated one of my birthday there it was wonderful.
I liked the sport room, the bar in the basement, the music tracks.
Anyway I still look forward to come back there.
The last time I was at Artemis, I saw a guy who was preparing to go to the zimmer with that ugly duckling. He was shaking his head side to side and smacking and licking his lips with greedy desire like he had just struck the mother lode of gold or something. In the meantime, her look literally scared the hell out of me! If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck in an FKK? Then it's probably a plastic monster!Some guys want to live porn in brothels when they can't at home. Now, young guys and girls learn sex through porn, just dramatic on my opinion for girls self image, when I'm so happy I learned sex with my girlfriends, celebrating woman, and I just look for the same in brothels, maybe why girls choose to start with me.
Art is my favorite place for punting and I'm missing it.
I have been with 63 different women over there. I celebrated one of my birthday there it was wonderful.
I liked the sport room, the bar in the basement, the music tracks.
Anyway I still look forward to come back there.I don't think before elections when Germany may lengthen lockdown, but should be one of first to reopen, when Berlin is a bit different than other landers, a bit like HH.
Carpaccio18
03-23-21, 22:44
Art is my favorite place for punting and I'm missing it.
I have been with 63 different women over there. I celebrated one of my birthday there it was wonderful.
I liked the sport room, the bar in the basement, the music tracks.
Anyway I still look forward to come back there.You're not alone, bro.
I will be there first in line when they reopen.
I will be there first in line when they reopen.I'll wait a least 3/4 months before the opening.
I don't think before elections when Germany may lengthen lockdown, but should be one of first to reopen, when Berlin is a bit different than other landers, a bit like HH.Hamburg has a nightly curfew right now.
Guess were was the bigger queue lately in Berlin, in front of the vegan ice cream shop or in front of the test station?
The silent revolution is going on.
Some guys want to live porn in brothels when they can't at home. Now, young guys and girls learn sex through porn, just dramatic on my opinion for girls self image, when I'm so happy I learned sex with my girlfriends, celebrating woman, and I just look for the same in brothels, maybe why girls choose to start with me.Not very revolutionary, but fine. I watched my first porn video at my friend's house and his older brother having a bad vhs back when I was 3 or 4 years old. We are talking over 30 years ago. So nothing new here.
Not very revolutionary, but fine. I watched my first porn video at my friend's house and his older brother having a bad vhs back when I was 3 or 4 years old. We are talking over 30 years ago. So nothing new here.In some clubs like Samya or World, there are screens in rooms, playing porn, I always ask girls to switch off, they seem surprised. Porn is real killing desire for me. On the day they will play ski, I will say the girl: wait, we see later. Porn is not sex for me. Sad for new generation with porn culture to learn sex, poor girls for their self image and guys will have complex with their small dick. When 12 seem to be the average for Caucasians, small size for me, but easier for vagina whose average is around 10 centimeters.
Considering they re-opened Artemis last summer around July with NO vaccination, you all think it would re-open around same time as normal considering they hit above 75% vaccination rate?
With numbers drastically going down in the summer months, I think we'll have at least 80 girls by end of August / September.
ExpatLover
05-24-21, 07:01
Considering they re-opened Artemis last summer around July with NO vaccination, you all think it would re-open around same time as normal considering they hit above 75% vaccination rate?
With numbers drastically going down in the summer months, I think we'll have at least 80 girls by end of August / September.Of course they will reopen, the HA need that washing machine, but for sure I will not go there even for free. I never appreciate this FKK in the recent years and was never convinced by the LU, so many veteran hookers around with sili, Botox.
A very sexy lady with black long straight hair down to her ass. Silicone tits, always black stockings, elegant black shoes, Very pretty. Could have some Turkish blood, but said she was German. A little reserved. Never intrusive and sat on one of the sofas in the bar with her back to the parking lot. She had a dog, went for walks and was in good shape. She rarely worked on Saturdays when she did not like so many people.
She lives in Berlin. Smart conversation partner.
She has not been to Artemis in 3-4 years. I miss her and maybe someone remembers her and knows if she is active as an escort or in an apartment? She really had a delicious porn body and I would say 10/10. She did not kiss, but blowjob without. At that time it was common without extra payment.
Thanks for any tips.
Of course they will reopen, the HA need that washing machine, but for sure I will not go there even for free. I never appreciate this FKK in the recent years and was never convinced by the LU, so many veteran hookers around with sili, Botox.And, I found one of my absolute bests ever at Artemis. The statuesque, blue-eyed, blonde, German Lilia! I understand why some mongers don't like Artemis. But, it works for me! Just like Sharks works for lots of mongers, but never seems to quite do the job for me. Oh well (shrugs)!
PinballMachine
05-25-21, 16:46
Considering they re-opened Artemis last summer around July with NO vaccination, you all think it would re-open around same time as normal considering they hit above 75% vaccination rate?
With numbers drastically going down in the summer months, I think we'll have at least 80 girls by end of August / September.They didn't open in July they opened in September, and then they shut it down I November again. So it was a brief window of opportunity. And it was expensive with 90 € entrance and 70 € for 30 min basic session.
And, I found one of my absolute bests ever at Artemis. The statuesque, blue-eyed, blonde, German Lilia! I understand why some mongers don't like Artemis. But, it works for me! Just like Sharks works for lots of mongers, but never seems to quite do the job for me. Oh well (shrugs)!I second that, sharks never really worked for me, but Artemis has few stunners between those plastic old monsters, there used to be more stunners, but it is up again during my last visit in summer 2019 ! Seems like ages ago now with this covid lock down LOL!
Carpaccio18
05-29-21, 21:34
I second that, sharks never really worked for me, but Artemis has few stunners between those plastic old monsters, there used to be more stunners, but it is up again during my last visit in summer 2019 ! Seems like ages ago now with this covid lock down LOL!Its going to be really interresting to see what lineup theres going to be there when Artemis reopens. I have a business trip coming up passing by Berlin. With some luck it may happen same time reopening becomes possible, as things are going currently (several parts of Berlin area already seem below the 35 threshold).
I'm already vaccinated, and don't mind taking a test to get in. So I'm ready for some FKK action.
I do see several guys here keep going on and on about vax being unsafe etc etc. People must decide for themselves, I'm going for FKK. Thats my decision.
I am 100% in agreement. Also I suspect that ladies will get tired of daily testing and will be vaccinated soon as well. By August 70% of the adults in Germany will be vaccinated. If two vaxed folks meet, then chances of infection are really super-low. Life must go on and it will.
I don't mind if 30-50% of the mongers stay absent, because I hate it to wait for rooms.
Its going to be really interresting to see what lineup theres going to be there when Artemis reopens. I have a business trip coming up passing by Berlin. With some luck it may happen same time reopening becomes possible, as things are going currently (several parts of Berlin area already seem below the 35 threshold).
I'm already vaccinated, and don't mind taking a test to get in. So I'm ready for some FKK action.
I do see several guys here keep going on and on about vax being unsafe etc etc. People must decide for themselves, I'm going for FKK. Thats my decision.
Its going to be really interresting to see what lineup theres going to be there when Artemis reopens. I have a business trip coming up passing by Berlin. With some luck it may happen same time reopening becomes possible, as things are going currently (several parts of Berlin area already seem below the 35 threshold).
I'm already vaccinated, and don't mind taking a test to get in. So I'm ready for some FKK action.
I do see several guys here keep going on and on about vax being unsafe etc etc. People must decide for themselves, I'm going for FKK. Thats my decision.No go for it, just be sure to fix the data so that you can get your business during the reopening LOL!
As for line up, that is the thing as Romanians which are greatest supplier of FKK line up is way behind the vaccine etc, so I wonder if they are allowed in, but hey you might get lucky and get a lot of German girls? Well let me know how it is and good luck!
No go for it, just be sure to fix the data so that you can get your business during the reopening LOL!
As for line up, that is the thing as Romanians which are greatest supplier of FKK line up is way behind the vaccine etc, so I wonder if they are allowed in, but hey you might get lucky and get a lot of German girls? Well let me know how it is and good luck!In Romania you just go to a doctor pay the 50 extra and you are "vaccinated."
In Romania you just go to a doctor pay the 50 extra and you are "vaccinated."Yes. With some fake vitamin c vaccines LOL!
Sebastiane
06-06-21, 23:07
A very sexy lady with black long straight hair down to her ass. Silicone tits, always black stockings, elegant black shoes, Very pretty. Could have some Turkish blood, but said she was German. A little reserved. Never intrusive and sat on one of the sofas in the bar with her back to the parking lot. She had a dog, went for walks and was in good shape. She rarely worked on Saturdays when she did not like so many people.
She lives in Berlin. Smart conversation partner.
She has not been to Artemis in 3-4 years. I miss her and maybe someone remembers her and knows if she is active as an escort or in an apartment? She really had a delicious porn body and I would say 10/10. She did not kiss, but blowjob without. At that time it was common without extra payment.
Thanks for any tips.That sounds like 'Scarlet' a native Berliner but of Turkish origin. I knew her well (if it is the same girl she used to work in Sakura in Stuttgart before Artemis or swap between the two.) I used to have her private number but last I heard from her was nearly 5 years ago and I know she had a kid too. Sorry can't be of more help. IF it is the same girl I know she worked in Karlsruhe or Darmstadt for a bit from an apartment but I haven't seen her since my last visit at Artemis. Sorry!
Artemis will be open Friday 18 June 21 for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.
Artemis will be open Friday 18 June 21 for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.You need to take pcr test to go to Artemis now? Or vaccinated? Or get infected and recover?
ExpatLover
06-15-21, 14:27
Artemis will be open Friday 18 June 21 for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.I give you my place, I don't like Artemis and will not visit a FKK before several months, too many desperate guys around I pass my turn.
Artemis will be open Friday 18 June 21 for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.MrHo,
Get yourself vaccinated and fly over to Berlin for your 'humanitarian help'! LOL.
Great news about this reopening! The other big ones should not be far from their grand re-opening!
I give you my place, I don't like Artemis and will not visit a FKK before several months, too many desperate guys around I pass my turn.We know, mate! Your ideal FKK club is where you are the only customer and where the girls don't have pimps, have never worked in Dubai and are all fresh, beautiful and virgin.
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