FKK Artemis - Berlin [Archive] - Page 8

Miles Clifton

09-26-10, 05:48

All right gentlemen. Here it goes, I promised a report after garnering some information from the more experienced members on the forum prior to my visit. I may intersperse this report with some information that may not be entirely germain to the Artemis thread however it is important to recap the entire experience.

So here I sit in my hotel room it is Sunday morning almost 6am I just recently got back from Artemis no time for sleep as I am about to head in a few hours to the airport. What better way to keep awake then posting a report.

I arrived in Berlin early Monday morning the 20th. After spending the better part of the day sightseeing, and drinking beer, I put my colleagues to bed I decided to head over to Artemis. I arrived rather late in the evening maybe 11:00 or 12:00. I was slightly inebriated, well maybe more then slightly when I arrived. This was however my plan as this was a new experience for me and alcohol certainly reduces are inhibitions. My first objective was to find a Hungarian girl. As I have an afinity for them. Well not soon after my arrival I met Vivi from Hungary(she may go by Niki as well). Blonde, big boobs, nice ass, a little pornstar/Pamela Anderson like. Definitely hot and certainly to my liking. We definitely hit it off in the room. After some hot bbj I asked her if any other Hungarian girls worked at the club. After a half hour in the room with her she had her friend Gabi join us, some may know her as (Gabitza). She is a beautiful young Hungarian girl with nice natural the cups. So the three of us had a wonderful romp in the room for an hour and a half. After which I settled with Vivi and kept Gabi for the rest of the night till probably 4:30 am. I had a fantastic time with both of these girls. For me it was nice to spend some extended time with a girl I liked as the club and selection can be a little overwhelming for a first timer. So first night my wallet may have been 500euro or so lighter but I returned to the hotel with a big smile for a few hours of sleep.

Wedenesday I had an escort come to my hotel. As this is not relevant to this thread I won't go in to too much detail. However for me this was a great experience. Perfect start to the night with a little romp in the hotel room, then dinner went to some clubs and then back to the hotel room. She spent the night with me. It is very nice to have some company when you are in a foreign city by yourself. Wallet a thousand euro lighter however a great experience.

Thursday night I returned to Artimis. A little earlier this time maybe about 10. I was stone cold sober this time as I was adapting to the FKK experience and didn't need the alcohol to take the wall down. Started off the night with a Hungarian girl Brigi (Brigitta) tall, nice toned body, a little more mature then the average Artimis girls. Great GFexperience with her as well. Repeat with Vivi afterwords another good session. Then I froze up a little bit. Spent a lot of time in the bar smoking cigarettes, drinking beer and water and checking out the scene. There were so many attractive girls. I just could not decide on one. It can be a bit overwhelimg at times. So finally at about 3:30 I decided to get my shit together. Went to the room for an hour with a nice tall petite girl from Moldova. Sorry the name escapes me. Again no complaints on my end great time.

So now we arrive to Saturday night. My last night in Berlin before returning to the crushing weight of reality. I had an epiphany of sorts, a combination of having two Artemis experiences under my belt but also concluding that this is the one of the few places that you can set everything else aside and revel in fantasy. I arrived much earlier then the other two nights at about 7pm. Within a few minutes of arriving I met up with Vivi. She had arrived fairly recently as well. So I was her first for the night. So a good experience on the prior two nights was even better this night. One hour in the room. Next was a Brazilian girl who I came to find out from the other girls wasn't really Brazilian but Dominican. I think this is a common thing some girls definitely claim they are from somewhere else at times. Next was Pingi from Thailand. One hour great experience. Next a girl from Turkey with some tattos nice breasts. Good experience one hour. Then two more girls this time authentic Brazilian girls from Rio one dark skinned and one lighter skinned blonde with big breasts. Sorry about the names I am not too good with them. So 6 girls 6 sessions one hour each. I must say a pretty damn good night and I was pretty proud of myself and my little trip around the world. A girl from Hungary, Thailand, Dominican, Turkey, Brazil where the hell else could you do this, not many places that is for sure. So in my opinion it took me about two days to get comfortable with the club and all its amenities. I really took advantage of the facilities this time around. I used the pool, sauna, hung out in the bar, ate food twice, and fucked my brains out. It was a pretty damn expensive night with the quantity of the girls and a few extras probably about 1000 euro.

You can see a common thread in that I had a great time with every girl. I think one morsel of wisdom that I can bestow on the masses despite my limited expereince is the following. In every situation I made sure the girls had fun as well. Got to know them a little bit found out what they liked and tried to incorporate this in the sessions. I treated all of them with respect and didn't just try to fuck the hell out of them. You want a GFE well then shouldn't you really treat them like a girlfriend. I think because of this every girl was open to whatever I wanted. Wether they were lying to me or not I don't know but I don't really give a shit. Almost every girl had an orgasm as well, two of them three, one four. I won't stroke my own ego here because women can fake pretty convincingly we don't have that luxury. Again I will reiterate, you want to have a good time make sure she does too.

So what a hell of a week. Beside the Artemis trips, I saw a lot of Berlin went to a ton of bars, drank a lot of German Beer and had a great time over all. But damn did it cost me dearly. If I add up the airfare, hotel, 3 trips to Artemis, two nights with escorts, a ton of taxi rides, food, beer I say I just blew 8000 euro this week. You know what you only live once.

Capt Dan

09-26-10, 23:52

Excellent report Miles. I have added to the Reports of Distinction thread. Hopefully the first of many excellent reports.

CD

Eros74

09-27-10, 00:32

...If I add up the airfare, hotel, 3 trips to Artemis, two nights with escorts, a ton of taxi rides, food, beer I say I just blew 8000 euro this week. You know what you only live once.

8.000 euro 1 week in Berlin....it sounds as the most expensive, and probably funny, week reported here :D

Capt Dan

09-27-10, 00:43

8.000 euro 1 week in Berlin....it sounds as the most expensive, and probably funny, week reported here :D
If Miles Clifton can afford to pay and wants to do so... then good luck to him! :)
Many of us have spent a lot of money on this hobby over time. He may have chosen to have one big splurge!

Of course if Miles plans to repeat this adventure (and lets hope that he does!), he might be well advised to tone it down a bit on the spending!

Kimino

09-27-10, 05:24

I note Bearsk's upbeat report on Soledad - I had an outing with her a fortnight ago with mixed results. She is quite pretty and has nice tits together with an engaging humour and lively character, but she also struck me as slightly crazy and, worse, a bit mechanical in the room. Not a repeat, for me.

Unfortunately that's exactly my feeling with Soledad. I like the girl, she looks both crazy and sweet at times, always smiling, which in my head is the perfect mix for a super nice session. Then when you get to the room it's simply mechanical and yes, almost boring.

Bye

Linus Van Pelt

09-27-10, 09:24

Sometimes it's only sex, sometimes friendship is added on, sometimes a genuine bit of reciprocal affection grows.

But, it seldom happens, sometimes you feel the girl more and more well disposed to you, starting with "simple" sex, GFE and lots of kisses, and the border dividing the client-pro relation and "something else" is, magically, crossed.

You understand it by looking at the way her eyes stare at you, not the same way as during the session beginning. She stops needing "only" to make you/her cum, but also needing your touch in her face, her hands sweetly caressing your head, your body, you and her keeping each other in a strong, deep, emotional, never-ending hug.

Both needing to say goodbye many many times, in the room, close to the safeboxes no matter for other persons presence; needing to tell about private important life facts, sharing good and bad events.

During these exceptional experiences you realize your and her soul start mixing up.

I don't want to name what happens with a particular word. But I'm at home now, listening to "our song", and I'm still not able to make my tears stop falling.

Traveller Uk

09-27-10, 17:55

Kimino

09-27-10, 19:44

All these reports have been making me home sick so on a whim I have booked my flights and a hotel. I will arrive at Artemis on Saturday 2/10 at about 6pm and be there all day and evening Sunday.

Toot Toot!!

Awesome!!!!!

wish I could join you but I'll have to wait until 28 oct.

Have great fun!!!!

Bearsk

09-28-10, 06:27

Unfortunately that's exactly my feeling with Soledad. I like the girl, she looks both crazy and sweet at times, always smiling, which in my head is the perfect mix for a super nice session. Then when you get to the room it's simply mechanical and yes, almost boring.

Bye

I agree with the perspective from Kimino and Charlie.
Interestingly, she actually remembered me from the first time I did her 2 months ago. She is also growing on me and performing better. Be warned, YMMV.

Bearsk

09-28-10, 06:37

I returned to Artemis for last Saturday.
Slept late at hotel, stepped out for a late lunch, back for a sleep with late check out. Sat in lobby and did work on internet for a while. Then talk train to Westkreusz arriving around 8pm.

Did a short survey, Vivian came into view, rest is pleasant history.
After 4 hour rest, approached by Carmen, off for a pleasant one hour session at the end of which she cuddled up while we chatted. She previously work at Dianaplus in Madrid and provided advice for upcoming trip.

Slept for a few hours then back massage. Decided late in the day despite several morsels absolut realised that I probably could not perform.

Rested til 5am, showered, went to station, took 5.30am train north on platform 3-4 to Berlin Jungfernheide station http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Jungfernheide_station. Got off and caught X09 (alt 109) bus to Tegel. In airline lounge at 6.20am. This was easy.
Not sure when I will come this way again.

Charlie 123

09-28-10, 13:01

I agree with the perspective from Kimino and Charlie.
Interestingly, she actually remembered me from the first time I did her 2 months ago. She is also growing on me and performing better. Be warned, YMMV.There was one other thing that really put me off this girl. I declined to mention it before on the grounds of discretion, but now that she appears to have become the object of widespread discussion, I feel less cruel in mentioning it.

She has got horrible skin! Her whole back and the major part of her torso seemed to be covered with small lumps! You cannot see them in Artemis' dim lighting, but when you run your hand over her body you can feel these pea-sized bumps all over the place. All I could think about during my time with her was my childhood religious education and all those revolting stories about biblical plagues!

Not a particularily charitable observation for me to make, one might think, but frankly that was my abiding memory of my session with this girl and a primary reason why I wouldn't go with her again even if she wasn't mad.

Best,

Charlie

Macca 74

09-28-10, 23:14

It was marathon day in Berlin and I felt sorry for the runners as the weather was horrendous. Continuous heavy rain can't have made it an easy course.
Anyway, I had other things on my mind as I headed into Artemis just before 12pm.

As I approached the lockers, Joy from Lithuania was there waiting for payment. She must have been one of the earliest cabs off the rank that day, and there she was picking up her first fare.

As expected the club was fairly quiet. Although the quantity of ladies wasn't huge, the quality was very good. I spotted The Queen, Jenna, and the adorable Vivian, and quite a few others I couldn't name, but there were some real stunners working the room.

I grabbed something to eat (scrambled eggs and bacon available, if the foodies are interested), and went downstairs to read and use the sauna. I don't know if it was because it was Sunday or the low numbers of ladies, but I wasn't approached once in the 90 minutes I was downstairs. Very unusual.

At around 2pm I decided to look for my first encounter of the day. I had spotted a nice looking blonde a little earlier and was pleased to find her sitting on her own on a sofa in the main bar. We had a quick chat and were soon on our way to the room. Her name was Natalie, 25 years old and comes from Ukraine. She's got a short blonde bob-cut and is average height with a pretty face and lovely deep blue eyes. Good figure but with no augmentation, she looks like the hot girl next door. Her service was great. She was very enthusiastic and receptive, plenty of DFK and a great 69 and BJ. A definite repeat next time I'm in Berlin.

I headed off to my hotel at about 3pm and returned to Westkreuz at 7pm. The place was a lot busier and it looked like a full line-up was on display.

Next up was Luna, a dark, petite Brazilian from the Amazon region who was wearing white fishnet stockings and a fetching white cap. She was great in the room and is very cute and friendly. Luna is a GFE with a bit of attitude, She's been reviewed here recently and didn't disappoint.

I went downstairs to relax and bumped into Vivian who was reading her stars in a magazine (love-life good, I would imagine). I had a nice chat with her and said I'd look her up a little later if I had the energy. Sure enough, Vivian found me in the upstairs kino a little later and it was soon zimmer-time. There was a wait for a room and I had a good conversation with Vivian, who was very complimentary about the way Artemis look after the girls, health-wise. Good to hear. I had a wonderful time in the room with Vivian. She's great at what she does, excellent company and possesses an exquisite beauty. No wonder she's so popular with quite a few regulars.

That was me done for the day and I left at around 1 am. A superb day, all things considered.

The club was still busy as I left, and judging by a few limping guys in the house, it looked as though a few marathon runners had managed to find their way to Artemis. Good on 'em!

The Postman

09-28-10, 23:41

Angus Magee

09-29-10, 15:35

Wednesday 16:30 Ol' Angus is just leaving for the Art party. Expect a report sometime in the next days and I will try to up load a video of the out door construction progress a bit later, in the wee hours of the morning.

AM

Angus Magee

09-30-10, 02:41

A short video showing construction of the wall at Artemis.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=490&preview=true

Angus

Dogger862

09-30-10, 07:14

Write93

09-30-10, 11:12

So I was asked by Angus on twitter to write a report and as a thanks for all of his help I have decided to do so. I figure if he can shoot those incredibly useful videos then writing the report he asked for is the least I can do.

These were my first two trips to Artemis but I have been to Samya in Koeln before. I think the club compares favorably, having a much larger non smoking area is a big benefit and I think the quality of girls is higher at Artemis. The price is a drawback though--for the same 200 eur in Samya you can have three sessions instead of two. (80+60+60 vs 50+50+50+50) I have not eaten the food at either place and can't comment on it.

Saturday Sept 25: two sessions, and I was there from around 1230-1700. I thought it was a little slow for a Saturday, especially for a club this big, although it did pick up as it got later.

First session was with an aggressive girl who, I being out of practice, does not have a name. Blonde hair, fake but still human sized breasts, probably 25-30. Not german by accent, but that's all I know. She pressured me towards CIM but wanted 50 eur extra which is too much. A standard session otherwise, would probably recommend if you wanted to pay the extra. Moderate english skill. Unfortunately without a name this isn't very helpful!

Second session was with very attractive and very much crazier Luana from Stuttgart. I'd assume she was around 22, blonde hair, she was talking to a friend from North Carolina who I would have liked to talk to afterward but she was gone and I was leaving. Fantastic session, the best I have had until a session on Wednesday beat it. Perfect blowjob, I didn't find out how much CIM was but I probably would have opted for it although the sex was also superb. She spoke some english but it was definitely endearing. I looked for her on Wednesday but I didn't see her. Would definitely return, and recommend her to anyone.

Wednesday Sept 29: Three sessions, was there from around 1300-2000. Seemed like there were way more guys than girls for the entire time I was there, although there were many more girls overall than on Saturday. There were, unfortunately, a huge group of Italians who were absolutely rude and lived up to every stereotype they could think of.

First was Nina from the Czech Republic. Long black hair, I don't want to guess on her age because of a previous report on her reading reports of her. I think this was a good session. It was my first of the day but it was a good beginning. I think I would recommend her well, you may click with her more than I did and have a fantastic session but she is a professional in the best sense of the word and I don't think you'll end up having a bad one. Moderate english skills, with which we had a small conversation about heartbeats during orgasm. Fascinating stuff.

Second was Pia from Germany. Probably from 22-25 as well. Blonde girl with the small breasts who is incredibly attractive but was a terrible session. I didn't ask her name until it was really already too late, and I didn't see the previous report on her but I'd definitely agree with it. Good english skills, but I'd avoid her. It's possible that she was just tired or we didn't click but it was absolutely my worst experience with a German girl (who I usually prefer as these things are unlikely to happen and you have girls like Julia from Liberty and Luana and Kathleen here) and maybe my worst ever. I respect that she intends to make her living from this, and she is certainly one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen, much less had sex with, but the session wasn't any good and I'd recommend along with the previous reports that you stay away from her. Good english skills though!

Third was Kathleen from Germany, Potsdam. There appear to be conflicting reports here, even a negative one from Angus--a man I imagined as a sort of Jose Mourinho of the German brothel world, capable of turning any team into a winner--but this was definitely the best sex I have ever had. I don't doubt that as a reaction to Pia beforehand that this was improved (although I did think about just leaving, glad I stayed, obviously) but I can't speak highly enough of it. The blowjob was maybe, maybe! only one very small notch below Luana's, but the sex was similarly fantastic. Maybe the biggest draw for me is that she looks virtually identical to Caroline Wozniacki. I don't know of many girls you'd do better with me by looking like. Maybe a younger Natalie Portman or Rachel Bilson, but as a blonde, Wozniacki is tops. I feel bad for those of you who have been with her and not gotten the best. She speaks excellent english and we probably spent ten or fifteen minutes after the session discussing my native California where she is going on vacation in November. I would definitely return to Artemis just to session with her three times in a day. In fact, given that option, I'd definitely chose it over risking other girls, as even if they were better--possibly, but certainly improbable--they would still not look like Caroline Wozniacki.

Hopefully these reports help Angus, or as I'm sure he intended, help other people who read the forums.

Linus Van Pelt

09-30-10, 11:15

Linus,

I know what you mean. My experience with Dorean during my first two visits to Artemis in '07 are still the best P4P experiences I've ever had. Something just clicked there...

Interesting, I don't think I've ever seen her name mentioned here in any other report...obviously didn't strike a chord with other contributors.The each of us heart and soul may have different resonance tones, so, like a musical instrument, not all frequencies (girls) could make us vibrate.

The same, I think, from the girls point of view (while considering their job).

Problem: a musical instrument vibration cannot stop instantly; how long is the echo? Those girls are equipped with a damper (like inside a piano) able to quickly suppress the resonance. Is our damper as effective as their ones?

Shouldn't be true, we would add a new long lasting vibration for each Artemis visit, that could be pleasant and dangerous at the same time (some resonances may injure the musical instrument).

My God, I'm too much spiritual! I'm scared of myself.

It's time to get some multiple session. I look forward to come back at Oct. 9th!

Bye

Linus Van Pelt

09-30-10, 11:23

Hi Linus,

You nearly brought a tear to my eye reading that post! Know how you feel. Just over a week ago i was in Artemis for 3 days. It was really hard coming back down to earth after spending 3 days in Paradise with my favourite. I'll try and write some more when i get my head together!I look forward to see your report!

I'll also try to collect my 36 visits (so far) into some interesting report (difficult to me. My sentimental part would hide the interesting erotic part. But I'll give me a try).

Bye

Nille Copenhagen

09-30-10, 21:58

but certainly improbable--they would still not look like Caroline Wozniacki.Great report,

He, he Caroline Wozniacki is a Danish Tennis Star.

Nille

Gustoomas

10-01-10, 19:03

Linus Van Pelt

10-02-10, 00:10

There were, unfortunately, a huge group of Italians who were absolutely rude and lived up to every stereotype they could think of.I always feel bad sensations on reading about these kind of experiences. Because I know it's damn true!

The word "Italians" sadly gets a lot of results inside this forum.

I wrote something about this topic in the past, apologizing for my stupid compatriots. Some of the Italians posting on this forum agreed with me.

I always come to Artemis alone, and I often realize that the noisy ones come from the south part of Italy, but it's not a rule.

I don't want to repeat myself (and the other "non noisy" Italians posting to this forum). With this post I want to say I'm more and more seriously worried about a possible day in Artemis during which the security may say "Ok, ALL Italians quit the club, NOW! ". I'm amazed it's not yet happened.

A misunderstanding is not impossible. During the Italians usual noisy scene, to say "I'm Italian" is not a good business card.

Last time I was here, a girl asked me what time did I come at; I replied at 11. 30am (it was about 9pm), and she didn't trust me after knowing my nationality (she hadn't been seeing me because I used to continuously go upstairs with my favourite girls, but she didn't believe me).

I am not joking telling I'm worried, because sometimes I was tempted to complain about the noise and the arrogant behaviour to the reception (if you understood what they say, you'd be even more annoyed). I gave it up just for my nationality, so, as I thought this, I presume many other could think and even do this! Even some girl (the ones they continuously try to kiss and touch without going to the room and pay).

He he, many "non noisy" Italians are hiding their nationality in the club, talking in a decent english as much as possible (quite decent english pronunciation = very low probability of Italian; and, also, not talking in italian language even in foreign country = low probability of Italian).

Make me a promise: should I have a problem for my nationality, not for my fault rarher because of a misunderstanding caused by other stupids, if I tell "Help, help! I am Linus! " and should some of you be present, please save me explaining to security/reception/girl that I'm not part of that stupid 90% part.

Very sad to talk in these terms, but while in normal conditions a person can distinguish between good and bad guy from the same country, in case of nervous situations things could go wrong.

(If I were the Artemis manager, I'd keep a black list of persons not allowed to enter, or, better, not allowed to enter together. They must not lose so much money since they are mostly stingy. Bad, but it would save the mood of the other visitors. Italians and not)

Bye

Angus Magee

10-02-10, 10:14

Parties-you either love ’em or you hate ‘em. And FKK parties seem to divide the throng. Some of us revel in the atmosphere, some of us shy away. I normally would include myself with the latter group and up until I found myself on the guest list for Artemis’ 5th birthday bash I had no plans on attending. I remembered that last year as a paying guest I was a wee disappointed with the experience, not that Artemis was not its’ usual den of sin and debauchery. I did however remember being frustrated by the apparent lack of available girls. If this was just my perception I do not know, but I was curious to see if things would be different this year.

I arrived at around 16:30 expecting to meet both Rocketboy and Charlie some time late in the afternoon. It was Wednesday so the usual Dessous was expected but today was also a party. Upon encountering the first few girls I decided today was Dessous on steroids. The girls were all dressed up in white and pink. Some wore lingerie, while some wore even more. A couple of the girls I saw upon entering looked to be dressed for the senior prom. Now I am not one to really object to Dessous day, as long as it is only once a week. Today though I did feel some of the girls were overdressed to the point that one wonders what they maybe hiding which is, as I understand it, the main objection by many to this tradition.

The early crowd was heavily weighed on the male side. That is, the bar held few ladies and many, many white robes. I did find myself wondering what was up but also thought that the ladies were probably taking their time getting into their finest. I was right, a short spell in the sauna and pool and a return to the bar saw the population of ladies growing and I knew that Artemis would not disappoint.

First Rocketboy made his entrance, catching Angus snoozing (figuratively) on one of the behind the bar couches and stealing his bath shoe. Then a little latter Charlie was there and we moved to a better viewing station. The girls dropped by but did not push to hard. And here in lies, I feel, the difficulty with this sort of party. It was obvious that many of the guests tonight were, like RB & I, guest listed. It was also obvious that while we were certainly interested in the offerings, it was not really top priority. We were also there just to check out the scene. The girls know this and it sets up a vibe. This vibe, while fun on the party level, is not particularly conducive to good sessions. The girls seem a bit divided between the wish to enjoy themselves (and who can blame them for this) and the desire to turn the evening into a money making time for themselves. They have, unlike many of the guests, paid 80€ to be there.

I decided to get in an early session and seeing my favorite all alone on a couch I pounced and without ceremony was off to the room. After the session I was ready for food and here I have to report a marked improvement from last year’s event. The previous year they tried a sit down feast with table service. The food was good (better than the usual) but the table service really did not work. It came across to me as clunky and slightly annoying as the waiters were hard to contact and I remember sitting for sometime wondering where my food would come from.

This year they hired a specialty catering company, set them up in a big tent in the parking lot and did what the Germans do so well, grilled meat. In fact they grilled the biggest single piece of beef I have ever seen on a spit. A whole cow! Yes lads, quite literally there was a whole cow turning slowly on a spit with a couple of guys carving off great big chunks and carving it up in front of you. I felt like Fred Flintstone ordering Bronto-ribs. It was also tasty with pan fried spaetzle, potatoes, gravy and salad. There was also rotisserie turkey breast, pork and panfried fish filet. It was not delicate food, but it was good and I enjoyed it. Top marks for both the management that decided upon this strategy and the catering company who pulled it off.

Back on the dance floor the evening was now in full swing. As predicted the line up of ladies was not disappointing purely from the visual point of view. That is the ladies were at their finest, if not at their most naked. There was a band playing the hits if the past there decades and later on a couple of heavily made up and costumed strippers took to the stage. It was all very festive yet for me, and for RB I think, something seemed to be missing. Maybe we are both infected by monger’s malaise or maybe we were both tired. Neither of us could, it seemed, muster all that much enthusiasm for heading to the rooms. Around 22:00 RB pulled the plug and bailed. Charlie had disappeared for now and Angus decided to stick it out at least until the fireworks display that happened at around 22:30. This and the champagne offered seemed to make it worth staying.

After the fireworks, which were actually quite impressive for a private display and must have cost a bundle, I thought again to leave but had the oft experienced Artemis itch to scratch. That is there were a number of ladies that inspired curiosity and I wanted one more session. The only trouble was that my mood was not great by this time. In retrospect I too should have pulled the plug but I hung around, and around, and around. By this time the party was pumping and the rooms were busy. I waned something more than just a quick pull into a room but this was not going to happen. At least from the ladies I had my eye on who leaned towards the optifick side of things. The trouble was I just knew that a room would be hard to find. A look up the stairs supported this as the couples were stacked up like flights over an busy airport. I just did not have the stomach for dragging a sweet young thing up those stairs and then making conversation as we waited for a room. So I myself went into a holding pattern and simply prowled discontentedly for some three hours until shortly after 02:00 when I found it within to leave.

Was I satisfied? Not really. I consoled myself on the night bus home (I had memorized the schedule before leaving) with the fact that I had spent little on the evening. Would I attend again? I have to say not, unless I again found myself on the guest list. But I would not pay for the privilege. In my opinion, while the birthday bash has its’ merits (good food) it is not the best time for a visit to Artemis. Better to bide one’s time and visit when the place is a whole lot more relaxed and the girls are ready to talk a bit before heading to the rooms.

Thanks for reading
AM

Kimino

10-02-10, 10:22

I always feel bad sensations on reading about these kind of experiences.
...

Wrote a big report but vanished from my iPad.. damm...

Anyways. here is the short version.

Is it really getting this bad?
I really don't think a "All the Italiand get the f.. out of here" is a feasable solution.
Not with what has been happening in history, not because of the kind of reaction from people not liking artemis's business there could be.

Instead of printing notes in italian about buying the tokens to get alcoholic drinks at the reception, why don't they print and give out at all customers a multilingual leaflet with the rules of the house, explaining that going against those rules will get your ass out of the place as fast as a missile?
Why don't they get a few more security guys going around?
Why does it have to be me to point out idiots smoking where they shouldn't?
I pay 80 euros to stay in a nice, and calm place, possibly in a non smoking area...
I do think that the Artemis staff (particularly the seurity) does a great and super professional job, but maybe they need help.
Having one security guy for each of the 4/5 strategic places in the club would make the change.

I live in italy and my opinion is that what we need is control and punishment, no way out! Noisy Artemis and a few prostituse getting pissed off because customers touch their ass without paying is the last of the problems.

Obviously I would do without this crap, but the idiot's mother is allways pregnant so that's how things go.

As for the girls, I know quite a bunch of them and they know me. With the ones they don't know you speak a different language, If they still have problems, wtf, get another bi... There's plenty.

This said, I've been to Artemis quite a bunch of time. In slow evenings, and in super crowded messe period. With or without italians, russians, iranians, etc. etc.
Yes there has been some noisy evenings, but never so bad, so don't get paranoid and have fun!!!

Guys, I must have missed something, wasn't there a 5 year birthday party of Artemis with a bunch of you being there??? Where's the reports????
:-)

Friends, you know who you are, remember we have to meet at the end of this month!!!!

Ciao

Markthomas1950

10-02-10, 10:51

Be strong my friend. You are not the first of us in the same situation. Now the best way for you is to avoid artemis during a long time and to forget. It is cruel, i know but better to forget each other that fall in addiction without solutions at the end, only lot of tears and lot of money away.Hey Linus Van Pelty and Gustoomas,

I have been there too. I have dropped a lot of money on these working girls and fallen for them and did silly things. You live and learn and just need to be conscious of the fact when you do start doing it.

It can be very hard to take but you need some support in keeping you sane and get back to normality with the working girls and fuck them for sex and not for something more.

Markthomas1950

10-02-10, 11:08

Instead of printing notes in italian about buying the tokens to get alcoholic drinks at the reception, why don't they print and give out at all customers a multilingual leaflet with the rules of the house, explaining that going against those rules will get your ass out of the place as fast as a missile?Hi Kimino,

I thought it was only Palace in Frankfurt that had printed laminated cards written in Italian language to explain to them the deal at Palace. At reception I have seen many times the Reception lady handing out laminated cards to the Italian men who cannot or refuse to speak english explaining what the 75 euro entrance is for and what you must pay extra in the club like drinks and time with the ladies.

The Thekefrau lady apologised to me as I wait for the Italian men to get out of the way that the reception staff do not speak Italian and can only speak English and German. I got processed for my entry while the Italian guys digest the rules at Palace.

So what this shows is that the Palace management had had some fore thought in trying to improve communication and marked Italians as being a big enough group to get their own language explanatory notes since the Thekefrau cannot give a verbal one like she does for english and german speakers.

At Oase there is a similar issue and I have lost count of the times where I have helped the bar staff explain in english to non German speakers that to get a beer or other alcoholic drink that they had to go to the reception to buy a token first and then come back to the bar to buy their drink. I always get a smiling thanks from the Oase bar staff for doing this and now the Oase bar staff know my drink and get it for me without asking at times.

Charlie 123

10-02-10, 14:26

Hi

Once again I find myself as the dissenting voice in a controversial debate.

I really feel this anti-Italian stuff is being overdone here. The considerable fraternity of Italians who seem to descend upon the club en masse make a contibution to the atmosphere that has both positive and negative impact.

On the negative side, they do appear to have engendered a reputation amongst the girls. The girls seem to feel that the Italian men are more interested in chatting and feeling them up in the bar than in paid sessions upstairs. I don't know to what extent this is true - it is probably accurate to at least some degree.

However, and I usually like to avoid generalisations of a nationalistic nature wherever possible, my experience of Italian men is that they really do love women, and that they have a passion for beauty and elegance that is not necessarily shared by other European nationals such as the French (too macho), English (too introverted), Spanish (also too macho) and Russians (too drunk). The excitement and appreciation that Italians radiate when surrounded by gorgeous girls is in my view a positive factor in the overall ambience of Artemis, and would be markedly noticeable by its absence should they ever cease to visit.

Funny isn't it, how the Italian men are now all thinking of claiming to be English while the Romanian girls are pretending to be Italian, and everybody (guys included) is going round using 'noms de plume' - is nothing at Artemis what it seems to be?

Charlie

Charlie 123

10-02-10, 14:45

Hi

Angus has covered the party in considerable detail in his earlier post....my impression was that it was a fun alternative to the daily routine. The girls had all clearly taken trouble to 'dress up' for the occasion and most of them looked really lovely. Kudos to them for their efforts.

There seemed to me to be a lot of (female) faces that I didn't recognise, and it was pleasant to see a wider array of talent than on a usual night - almost like visiting a different club. The food was good and the general atmosphere was lighthearted and upbeat. I enjoyed it - I left early with the intention of returning after midnight but fell asleep in the hotel, so I have only 2 sessions to report:-

Gabiza, Hungarian, quite short, big DD tits, brown shoulder-length hair, cute face, dirty laugh, fun girl - by no means my first session with her, this was one of our better outings. In the past, as she acidly observed, I have tended to go with her to the room towards the end of my trips when I am already shagged out and unable to give her my best. On Wednesday she was my first of the visit, and we had a really solid session. Her huge naturals flying about the place whilst she enthusiastically bounced around on top of me with my dick inside of her until I came represented the highlight of this weeks mongering.

Jessie, 21, Romanian, medium height, slim, fabulous skin, nice B cups, very pretty face - a pro who gives a decent blowjob/facial and talks dirty, but is a restrained performer who is unlikely to ever open up and and fully engage. Quite friendly, competent, eye-catching but ultimately limited SP who qualifies as a 4* optifick but never a GFE (for me at least - perhaps someone else might be able to turn her on).

Charlie

Capt Dan

10-02-10, 17:32

Report Artemis 5th Birthday Bash 29/09/10
Another GREAT report Angus. I have added to the ROD thread.
I notice you are travelling with a crew these days i.e. Rocketboy and Charlie.
This is my favourite method of visiting FKK & Sauna Clubs.
You can spend the day in the club and have some buddies to talk to when not involved with a lady or two.... or three.... or four.....! :D

Gustoomas

10-02-10, 19:10

Hey Linus Van Pelty and Gustoomas,

I have been there too. I have dropped a lot of money on these working girls and fallen for them and did silly things. You live and learn and just need to be conscious of the fact when you do start doing it.

It can be very hard to take but you need some support in keeping you sane and get back to normality with the working girls and fuck them for sex and not for something more.Hey Mark. You are right of course but you know also that to have a "normal" behave with these working girls is not always easy. We play in club with the majors needs for a man (sex, tenderness, love). The guys who are enough lucky to have these needs fulfilled in normal life don't care to go in FKK club (or they are full crazy I say). For lot of the others, they try by a way or an other to fulfilled theses needs in fkk club. I can say that cause in the french Forum youppie.net, we have carry out a survey among our network of "youppienaute" with the following question: are you jealous when your favorite is with an other guy?

2 responses possibles

1°) I know that it is their job but despite that I have more or less pain in my heart.

2°) No, no problem, I understand that they are present in club for that.

The result is 50% for each. (on fifty guys).

This result show clearly that behind the smiles and apparent lack of interest for girls after sex, the other needs are always present in the heart of lot of punters.

For me I have learned from my mistakes from the past and this experience painfully obtained is now my best support in keeping me sane and "normal" with the working girls. With the help of my "brothers in FKK" of course.

Kimino

10-03-10, 01:24

Funny isn't it, how the Italian men are now all thinking of claiming to be English while the Romanian girls are pretending to be Italian, and everybody (guys included) is going round using 'noms de plume' - is nothing at Artemis what it seems to be?

CharlieAhahah you are totally right Charlie!

Cheers

Vostro000

10-03-10, 03:37

Kimino

10-04-10, 00:18

Again I can't believe what people say about kathleen. Yes she is the best in looks by far. But the service is somewhat lazy and surely she is doing this just for money, she is not there to please people. She sits most of the day on the machines playing games. Her blowjob is so lazy but she thinks its the best. She does not kiss. She likes a special way to hold her tits. She is very-very sensitive on touching her. And based on that I was pissed off a bit that she was offering anal since she so sencitive. But since her looks are out of this world I would not lie but on two days of being there I did her 3 times.

Best in looks? ...
Offering anal? ...

Either it's not the Kathleen we usually talk about or we have very different tastes. She is attractive, maybe intriguing for some but for sure not a star.

Chinese tattoo on the back? Btw I was told that one of the ideograms is upside down or mirrored.

Ciao

Bearsk

10-04-10, 06:02

Taking her first up ... nice approach. I was resigned to going to the gym twice a day with a personal trainer, so I could match it with her. I am aging fast.

Gabiza, Hungarian, quite short, big DD tits, brown shoulder-length hair, cute face, dirty laugh, fun girl - by no means my first session with her, this was one of our better outings. In the past, as she acidly observed, I have tended to go with her to the room towards the end of my trips when I am already shagged out and unable to give her my best. On Wednesday she was my first of the visit, and we had a really solid session. Her huge naturals flying about the place whilst she enthusiastically bounced around on top of me with my dick inside of her until I came represented the highlight of this weeks mongering.

Is this Jesse?
http://www.fkk-artemis.de//upload/1282748702_IMG_0136.JPG

London Traveller

10-04-10, 09:44

Hey Mark. You are right of course but you know also that to have a "normal" behave with these working girls is not always easy. We play in club with the majors needs for a man (sex, tenderness, love). The guys who are enough lucky to have these needs fulfilled in normal life don't care to go in FKK club (or they are full crazy I say). For lot of the others, they try by a way or an other to fulfilled theses needs in fkk club. I can say that cause in the french Forum youppie.net, we have carry out a survey among our network of "youppienaute" with the following question: are you jealous when your favorite is with an other guy?

2 responses possibles

1°) I know that it is their job but despite that I have more or less pain in my heart.

2°) No, no problem, I understand that they are present in club for that.

The result is 50% for each. (on fifty guys).

This result show clearly that behind the smiles and apparent lack of interest for girls after sex, the other needs are always present in the heart of lot of punters.

For me I have learned from my mistakes from the past and this experience painfully obtained is now my best support in keeping me sane and "normal" with the working girls. With the help of my "brothers in FKK" of course.This is an interesting point. For me I have a complicated mixture of feelings when I see a girl I particularly like going with another guy. On the one hand I find it quite a turn on that they just fuck anyone for a comparatively small number of euros, and I also am interested to know what they get up to when they are with other men (particularly if I see them doing something interesting like having two guys at once or fucking a man who is particularly well endowed) whereas on the other I feel that maybe they shouldn't be behaving like that and should settle down to a normal life (of course if they had a normal life then I would never have met them!).

This happens to the girls too as well. Although it is not completely unheard of for working girls to marry their clients, it definitely does happen. Alternatively, one girl at Artemis, who was a good performer in the room, told me that she never sees men outside the clubs because if she does then she becomes attached to them and finds it difficult to cope with this.

London Traveller

10-04-10, 09:52

I just did not have the stomach for dragging a sweet young thing up those stairs and then making conversation as we waited for a room. So I myself went into a holding pattern and simply prowled discontentedly for some three hours until shortly after 02:00 when I found it within to leave. Thanks Angus for the exceptional report on the party. You have a great eye for detail and it is fascinating to read the thoughts of an experienced punter on the scene at Artemis. I, on my few visits there, have also found that I spent much more time prowling and selecting than actually with a girl in the room and wonder how it is possible to maximise pleasure and minimise the discontent, although maybe the answer is just a good book or a pal to chat to.

If you or anyone else on the forum would like to spend some time chatting in between girls, I will be at Artemis on 6/7 November and again for another weekend in December.

Please PM me if something is possible.

Write93

10-04-10, 10:55

Again I can't believe what people say about kathleen. Yes she is the best in looks by far. But the service is somewhat lazy and surely she is doing this just for money, she is not there to please people. She sits most of the day on the machines playing games. Her blowjob is so lazy but she thinks its the best. She does not kiss. She likes a special way to hold her tits. She is very-very sensitive on touching her. And based on that I was pissed off a bit that she was offering anal since she so sencitive. But since her looks are out of this world I would not lie but on two days of being there I did her 3 times.What I experienced could not ever be called a lazy blowjob. It seems to me that she may just be more variable than other girls on a person by person basis.

We're in agreement that she's the most attractive girl at the club though. What days were you there with her? I was very sad that neither she or Luana was there Saturday.

Best in looks? ...

Chinese tattoo on the back? Btw I was told that one of the ideograms is upside down or mirrored.

Yeah, same girl. Tastes vary! Maybe you don't like tennis as much as I do?

Linus Van Pelt

10-04-10, 11:20

hey mark. you are right of course but you know also that to have a "normal" behave with these working girls is not always easy. we play in club with the majors needs for a man (sex, tenderness, love). the guys who are enough lucky to have these needs fulfilled in normal life don't care to go in fkk club (or they are full crazy i say). for lot of the others, they try by a way or an other to fulfilled theses needs in fkk club. i can say that cause in the french forum youppie.net, we have carry out a survey among our network of "youppienaute" with the following question: are you jealous when your favorite is with an other guy?

2 responses possibles

1°) i know that it is their job but despite that i have more or less pain in my heart.

2°) no, no problem, i understand that they are present in club for that.

the result is 50% for each. (on fifty guys).

this result show clearly that behind the smiles and apparent lack of interest for girls after sex, the other needs are always present in the heart of lot of punters.

for me i have learned from my mistakes from the past and this experience painfully obtained is now my best support in keeping me sane and "normal" with the working girls. with the help of my "brothers in fkk" of course.here's my recipe to avoid deep suffering and, in the meanwhile, completely enjoy all levels of feelings:

1) i let me fall in love for a girl i naturally feel "mine" (it does not happen frequently);

2) i spend as much as possible time with her (while considering money);

3) when i feel my emotional state is becoming more and more critic (i miss her at home more than i enjoy her when i'm in artemis), i start spending time with another sweet girl (i always have in my mind such girls i met while in love with the previous one);

4) if i know i cannot afford another visit at artemis, i reach the beginning of falling in love (if it's the case) with this new girl, without going deeply in this state. then i disappear for some months.

this way allow me to have a good remember, to calm down my strong feelings for the previous one, without having too much pain for the new one.

i'm currently in the state 3), and during my next visit i'll try to deepen the "relation" with one of two girls that really approached me in a sweet way, more times, even if i didn't stay with them so far.

now it sounds artificial to my heart, because i cannot think about other girls but her; but the rational experience tells me it will work.

i wrote my starting post because i really felt to share my deep emotions with some of you, and i think i managed to do it.

and, by the way, i don't know whether i'm of the 1st or 2nd type (jealous or not), because when i'm in love, the girl has no time to spend with other customers

moreover, believe me or not, some girls are enough involved to peek at what you do with other girls, even if you tell her you have enough money to cover the time with her (so it's not only a matter of money).

as i told in previous posts, they are not machines, but they have developed a better damper to their feelings.

everyone tries to find what he needs in an fkk. sometimes pure sex, sometimes erotic perversions, sometimes a love story.

aware that is "time limited".

ops. so what's the difference with the real life?

ah, i was forgetting: the money, hehe.

bye, my friends, happy to share experiences with all

linus

Linus Van Pelt

10-04-10, 11:44

Hi,

However, and I usually like to avoid generalisations of a nationalistic nature wherever possible, my experience of Italian men is that they really do love women, and that they have a passion for beauty and elegance that is not necessarily shared by other European nationals such as the French (too macho), English (too introverted), Spanish (also too macho) and Russians (too drunk). The excitement and appreciation that Italians radiate when surrounded by gorgeous girls is in my view a positive factor in the overall ambience of Artemis, and would be markedly noticeable by its absence should they ever cease to visit.Charlie, you've actually addressed an important topic. I haven't been thinking about the facts in these terms so far, but I have to admit in some ways you're right.

My opinion is that most of Italians really do love girls in a wide sense, with the passion for beauty and elegance. But the difference is the behaviour: I express this passion by behaving with the [right] girls in the best way I can, for their and mine convenience; the "noisy Italians" express it by externalize the rude and stupid part of them.

I know that kind of behavior, and I've ever thought they could have annoyed someone, and you find the evidence of it inside the forum.

I don't want either save or condemn them, please only consider that the arrogance of some of them cannot be subsided in a simple way. It's not only a matter of true passion for girls, but also something like egocentrism and excessive assertiveness. The love passion is only the fuse.

Bye

Kimino

10-04-10, 18:31

Yeah, same girl. Tastes vary! Maybe you don't like tennis as much as I do?

Not really. :-)

I know it's obvious still I am sometimes amazed when I read some reports and knowing the girl I can't really match it with the description people give.

I know some might prefer blondes other brunettes but this is different and very interesting.

Ciao!

Traveller Uk

10-04-10, 19:33

Patchy couple of days at Artemis. Arrived at about 5pm to find it quite quiet. Wandered around, few regulars at that point, headed down to the Kino. I had spotted a "dirty blonde", slim, enhanced breasts touseled hair - looked game for naughtiness - Evelina. She joined me in the kino and made a few interesting promises. Went to the room with her and things were OK, kissing was of the peck on the lips, a bit of lip sucking. 69 was offered and when in position a rather odd grinding started as she rode her pussy and ass across my face. Odd is the word.

Up to the safety boxes, normally girls stand back, Evelina stood at my shoulder and said something about me having alot of Euros. I gave her 70Euro for half an hour. She looked at it and said, "50 more" - I was shocked - I asked what for? She said "For kissing and licking my ass" - I told her that kissing was not chargeable and that I didnt kiss her ass. She said "Kissing is not standard service - is 50 Euros". I refused. She went to Reception, a quick conversation in German and the Manageress was called. She listened carefully and then a heated discussion between Manageress and Evelyn commenced. Basically, Evelina was told that kissing was voluntary but not chargeable - Evelina did not like this and started to argue with the Manageress! Then she tried the "you kissed my ass" line, I had to explain in explicit detail what had happened, that I had not kissed her ass, but had her ass pushed in my face. Evelina finally realised that she wasnt getting anywhere and so said "OK, 70Euros - but you have learned a lesson" and flounced off. The Manageress was a picture of professionally restrained frustration. I have learned lesson - never, ever, ever, party with Evelina.

My second outing was with Colombian Lorina, pretty girl with big breasts and long dark hair, she started up-selling as soon as we were in the room. "60 minutes - everybody wants 60 minutes with me - OK?" As you can imagine I was not in the mood and so informed her that 30 minutes was it, a lack lustre performance ensued.

By this time I was pissed off, the atmosphere was unpleasent. One italian guy smacked a girl on the backside very hard, she had tears in her eyes and turned on him, he got nasty. Luckily other girls intervened and no further harm was done. The security guys hadnt seen the incident, but thet were running up and down the stairs as drunken guys were wandering upstairs without a girl.

I had seen a very pretty petite girl earlier, cute with bouncy breasts, wearing a little black top and wrap. I decided to give it ago, hoping that this would brighten the evening. Marketa was her name, a Czech national - I finally had a great time, lovely personality, she looked cute but with plenty of experience, hips that just boosted my performance. We stayed in a room for 60 minutes.

I left at about 11 - geeling rather torn by that evenings experience.

Day 2 - Sunday - yesterday. Arrived at 11am - the usual chilled out Artemis experience on a Sunday am - older chaps chatting to their favourite girls. After a good breakfast I got chatting to Kathleen. She knew my name, I have never partied with her but she had picked it up from the other girls. We went updstairs. Great kissing with tongue, in fact her tongue traced itself up and down my body a BBBJ that was excellent. Afterwards there was no rush to leave and we chatted. Lovely girl, if she likes you she is likes you. Not to keen on those Italians that dont speak English - they take liberties she feels. Sorry chaps.

More relaxation and then I started to chat to a Spanish looking girl, she is actually Albanian, Ina by name. Beautiful in my humble opinion, we went upstairs and had another great time. Full on french kissing, she loved DATY, great BBBJ and great sex. Loved her. Loved her. Loved her.

Afterwards, dinner - roast beef - Huzzah!! Then digested, swam and spotted Marketa and dragged her upstairs for another blissfull 60 minutes. That was it then, tanks empty I headed back to my hotel for a beer.

Very much a patchy weekend, starting with one horrible experience, one poor experience and then 4 great experiences (Marketa being a doubler). Thumbs up to the Artemis Manageress for playing fair with me.

On holiday soon and back at Artemis at the beginning of November to hook up with some of the ISG chaps for my first ISG Moot. Am very much looking forward to it Kimino et al!!!

Kimino

10-04-10, 21:10

On holiday soon and back at Artemis at the beginning of November to hook up with some of the ISG chaps for my first ISG Moot. Am very much looking forward to it Kimino et al!!!

Me too Traveller UK! I'll be there starting 28th oct. We iwll have fun.

This Evelina thing sounds real bad, maybe she is a new one that didn't understand the rules of the house. I can imagine your disappointment.

Smacking girls and then getting nasty? Drunken people walking upstairs?
Hope these assholes won't spoil it for the rest of us.

Better exercise my french.... Ahahahaha

Ciao oooppsss Au revoir!

Nille Copenhagen

10-05-10, 15:05

(Marketa being a doubler). Thanks for a great report, I agree with you Marketa from Czech is a gem.

Nille.

Charlie 123

10-05-10, 18:03

Hi

Michelle (Romania) - mid 20's +, brunette, q dark skinned, angular face, pretty, 5'8''+, v. large tits (augmented), great body, huge tattoo all the way up one side of her body

Nice girl, not particularly intimate, light kisser, great BBBJ - CiM finish.

30 mins later, terrific BBBJ again, fabulous cowgirl, great mish to completion.

110E + 60E = 170E for 2 superb sessions

Stunning young MILF, pleasant and friendly, disengaged but genuine performer - recommended

Charlie

Kimino

10-09-10, 20:51

Am So Good

10-10-10, 19:59

Hi!

Is Samira, the Turkish spinner, still there? Haven't seen any reports on her lately.

Has she quit?

Thanks

Travelman10

10-16-10, 10:33

Hey!

I a month or so Im heading down to Berlin for my second visit to Artemis. I was there in March and had a great time, but also doinf som e rookie mistakes.

Anyway, since Ive been away for a while I thought it might be a good idea to see if there are any major changes at Artemis.

Same fees for instance?

Im going there on a Monday, are Mondays slow days/nights?

Well, thankfull for all help. And if someone wahts to join this Swedish lad on Novemner 22nd, let me know.

Thanks!

Nille Copenhagen

10-17-10, 01:25

Anyway, since Ive been away for a while I thought it might be a good idea to see if there are any major changes at Artemis.

Same fees for instance?Hejsa,

No not much have changed, same fee 80€, same price in the rooms.

Artemis just had the 5 yr. b-party and next weekend Venus Messe event.

Nille

Angus Magee

10-17-10, 17:21

Is Samira, the Turkish spinner, still there? Haven't seen any reports on her lately.

Just read on a German forum that Samira is back after a three month leave. Assuming it is the same Samira, she is there .

AM

Kimino

10-19-10, 18:38

So guys... Who's going to' show up between Thursday 28 and Sunday 1st???

Really can't wait to be there. :-)

Practicing my french...

Ciaooooo

Wicked Fire

10-19-10, 20:37

So guys... Who's going to' show up between Thursday 28 and Sunday 1st?

Really can't wait to be there.

Practicing my french.

CiaoooooMissing out on you the second time my friend. :( I reach Berlin on 4th.

Kimino

10-20-10, 17:20

Missing out on you the second time my friend. :( I reach Berlin on 4th.There's definitely going to be other occasions!

Ciao

Member #4243

10-22-10, 02:24

Angus Magee

10-22-10, 13:09

Having visited Artemis a couple of years back and having a great time I would like to know what other members think of the fact that Artemis is the best FKK in Germany with regards to the facilities and girl quality? Are there more blonde nordic, Russian types at Artemis than in the Frankfurt clubs? At present I am considering a trip to Dusseldorf area because there are some good clubs in that area, and it is an area of Germany I have not yet visited. So far I have done Frankfurt and once Berlin. The dilema I'm facing is that I want to visit a new city, but I cannot seem to get excited about the idea of going to Dusseldorf and Cologne, however berlin always stirs my senses as outside of FKK environment the nightclubs and sites are great, but if I come back to Berlin, Artemis is there great, but the requirement of seeing a new city is not met. I have exhausted Frankfurt

3 trips, plus 1 trip to zurich great but too expensive. Mongering is my main aim but the tourist, nightclub thing is an important factor. Having researched the world, undoubtedly FKK Deutch offers the highest quality time anywhere. Can anyone help come to a conclusion to my situation?

Thanks,

Mohab

Well I think you answer your own question really. As far as I can say Berlin as a city is the most interesting and diverse in Germany. Hamburg (I hear) is also nice but let's face it, Frankfurt (esp. in winter) offers little other than the big three FKK. Unless you like to tour financial institutions that is.

However from the FKK point of view I am reluctant to say Artemis is the best in Germany. Actually I am reluctant to say any FKK is the best. There are a number of clubs and each one may suit a different mood.

Artemis is a vey good club as you note. It has its' up and downs, its' plusses and minuses, but over all it gets the job done and can be great if the stars align. So I would say if activity outside the FKK is also high on your list of priorities then Artemis and Berlin are the places to visit,

In the end, and as I have said before, the best club is always the one I am at, just for the fact of it is then the one where I can find my girlfriend du jour. All the others, in that moment, exist as theoretical potential.

AM

Charlie 123

10-23-10, 02:19

So guys... Who's going to' show up between Thursday 28 and Sunday 1st???

Really can't wait to be there. :-)

Practicing my french...

CiaoooooI'll be there Thursday

Charlie

Vitrea

10-23-10, 02:44

Well I think you answer your own question really. As far as I can say Berlin as a city is the most interesting and diverse in Germany. Hamburg (I hear) is also nice but let's face it, Frankfurt (esp. in winter) offers little other than the big three FKK. Unless you like to tour financial institutions that is.

However from the FKK point of view I am reluctant to say Artemis is the best in Germany. Actually I am reluctant to say any FKK is the best. There are a number of clubs and each one may suit a different mood.

Artemis is a vey good club as you note. It has its' up and downs, its' plusses and minuses, but over all it gets the job done and can be great if the stars align. So I would say if activity outside the FKK is also high on your list of priorities then Artemis and Berlin are the places to visit,

In the end, and as I have said before, the best club is always the one I am at, just for the fact of it is then the one where I can find my girlfriend du jour. All the others, in that moment, exist as theoretical potential.

AM

Thank you for the nice overview. I am in almost the same dilemma as Mohab, the previous poster. My issue is also a bit complicated by the fact that my travel time is between Christmas and New years. I really do not want to go to FRA. I would have liked to go to Vienna but I have a longer trip to VIE coming up in spring. Among FKK options, I am leaning toward Artemis. How is Artemis during the last week of December? I am not going to be there on Christmas or new year's eve so no worries there.

Thank you all.

Angus Magee

10-23-10, 09:22

Thank you for the nice overview. I am in almost the same dilemma as Mohab, the previous poster. My issue is also a bit complicated by the fact that my travel time is between Christmas and New years. I really do not want to go to FRA. I would have liked to go to Vienna but I have a longer trip to VIE coming up in spring. Among FKK options, I am leaning toward Artemis. How is Artemis during the last week of December? I am not going to be there on Christmas or new year's eve so no worries there.

Thank you all.

Well the week between Christmas and NY is a slow time but not a bad time to visit. Many girls are on holiday but those who are there are more relaxed and less money focused. I myself would almost prefer this time as the GFE chances are better IME. If at all possible I will myself make a visit at this time, cash permitting.

AM

Vitrea

10-23-10, 09:58

Well the week between Christmas and NY is a slow time but not a bad time to visit. Many girls are on holiday but those who are there are more relaxed and less money focused. I myself would almost prefer this time as the GFE chances are better IME. If at all possible I will myself make a visit at this time, cash permitting.

AM

Thank you much. Is that true for non-FKK mongering activities in Berlin as well? I do imagine Berlin to be more festive that week than say Frankfurt would be.

Angus Magee

10-23-10, 10:24

Thank you much. Is that true for non-FKK mongering activities in Berlin as well? I do imagine Berlin to be more festive that week than say Frankfurt would be.

Hummm...non mongering I am not so good at ;)

I actually find the non mongering things I do, what there are, are more crowded in this time, cafe, restaurants etc.. People are on holiday and take to the streets as long as the weather is not too bad.

Am

Kimino

10-23-10, 16:03

I'll be there Thursday

Charlie

Meet you there!
Great!

Vitrea

10-23-10, 20:13

Hummm...non mongering I am not so good at ;)

I actually find the non mongering things I do, what there are, are more crowded in this time, cafe, restaurants etc.. People are on holiday and take to the streets as long as the weather is not too bad.

Am

Sorry Angus Magee. I know better not to ask you or anyone here a non-mongering question. I was asking about the situation that week regarding "non-FKK" mongering. May be I will post it in the Berlin section. Thank you for all the help and your valuable posts.

Angus Magee

10-23-10, 22:50

Sorry Angus Magee. I know better not to ask you or anyone here a non-mongering question. I was asking about the situation that week regarding "non-FKK" mongering. May be I will post it in the Berlin section. Thank you for all the help and your valuable posts.

Well, I am quite willing to help if I can.What specifically are you looking for in non mongering areas? Maybe anser in the General info section and take it there?

AM

Kimino

10-29-10, 13:57

Arrived around 5pm. Many girls around and quite a few men. Later on a bunch of people came in. Many italians, acting fine luckily.
Met Charlie123 and had a real nice time chatting with him, as always.
Left at around 2am, wtf I was supposed to stay there not too long.
Food ok, facilities ok, all he same.
I'll be back today, bue leave earlier!

Girls

Nazira. Blonde, german/turk. Mid twenties.
Very nice girl to session and talk with. Gentle, smart. Does anal.
I initially rejected her, but after a while we where talking she really intrigued me a lot, not because she was playing the pornstar but because she really seemed smart.
Nice body, nice face. Would repeat, but there's so many nice girls at A. :-)

Sessioned with Raffaella, it was a long while I didn't, terrific. I like the girl so much she is both sweet (when she wants) and super hot. Many reports on her.

Sessioned with Carla, beautiful as usual but I just couldn't make it to come. Said a lot about her in previous reports. So won't repeat.

And now, the best thing that happened yesterday... Connie (or Conny).
Bulgarian, very tall, very thin, dark hair with a strange haircut, bit long bit short. Young. Dark eyes I think.
I've been seeing her for a long time but never chose her although she is extremely goodlooking imho. Don't know why, maybe I was thinking she was a refrigerator or something. To the point where in the last visits she never even approached me.
Last night after failing with Carla I thought I could get anyone one and just finish off before leaving, being her very nice, I chose her.
Very, very, very nice session. She is sweet but extremely hot. She licks like hell and is really sensual. A very nice body.
Definitely will repeat.

Kurre

10-29-10, 16:08

Sessioned with Raffaella, it was a long while I didn't, terrific. I like the girl so much she is both sweet (when she wants) and super hot. Many reports on her.Raffaella is great (very GFE), as is Samira (great DFK, threesomes), who AM said should be back.

I just booked my flights this morning and plan to spend next Monday and Tuesday nights at Artemis. I hope both Samira and Raffaella will be there!

I have never visited the club during daytime and thought I would give it a try - maybe take a break in the early evening, go watch a show and come back. I didn´t find any info regarding re-entry on the official Artemis home page, but I have a recollection it was discussed on this forum (can´t bring myself to RTFF once more).

Dirtydog 1975

10-29-10, 17:54

Banner123

10-29-10, 18:03

I paid a trip to the Artemis for the 3rd time on Wednesday. I had sessions with 3 girls and had a mixed experience overall.

I arrived around 16.00 and there seemed to be more men than women circulating, The last time I was at Artemis I had a great time with Liz and Shelby so I did a quick circuit but couldn’t find either of them. It was time for a new experience so after a circuit of the bar I took a seat next to Yasmine (or maybe Jasmine) who said she was from Germany. Tall, blonde hair and a really nice body. After a little chit-chat during which she said she didn’t kiss we went to a room. The ‘no-kissing’ condition should have been enough to put me off but she looked really good in her lingerie and I was really eager to start my sessioning. Overall it was a lacklustre experience – she was quite cold and not very enthusiastic. Standard bbbj, daty then a few position before finishing in doggie. I wouldn’t repeat.

I took a little break before circulating for girl 2. I spotted a stunning girl on the stairs leading up from the wellness area and made a beeline for her. She said her name was Sienna (again, I’m not 100% on the name) and that she was from Bulgaria. She was physically similar to Yasmine (tall, blonde, awesome tits and ass) but she was a completely different experience in the room. She was loads of fun and kissed like a champion. We had a great time and the €60 was money well spent.

When we headed back downstairs the dynamic had changed completely – there were a lot more women than men and the atmosphere in the bar was really lively. The food was served and it was really good – I had slices of pork and vegetables. No complaints on that front.

I fancied one more session before I left and I felt like a change from my usual dies of tall, well endowed blondes. I spotted a small and very cute dark haired girl sitting at the bar and started a conversation. She told me her name was Nina, she is 25 years old and she was Czech. She was really charming and I took her upstairs as fast as I could.

Nina was the highlight of this trip. A total pro who gave one of the best blowjobs I’ve ever had. I had to keep interrupting to keep from finishing early. Even though this was my third session of the day she had me on the brink almost from the start. We hit a handful of positions, her cowgirl and reverse cowgirl were incredible. And I finished in doggie. We were both dripping with sweat and gasping for breath by then. A wonderful end to a mixed day. She offered extras, including anal for €100, but I refused. Although I was mighty tempted by the sight of her perfect little ass bouncing up and down. I tipped her €10 and would most definitely repeat if I ever make it back to the Artemis.

Looking on the Artemis website none of the girls I was with are pictured.

I think I spent around 3 hours there and when I left I did intend to go back later than evening but once I hit my hotel room I crashed completely.

Macca 74

10-29-10, 19:43

I didn´t find any info regarding re-entry on the official Artemis home page, but I have a recollection it was discussed on this forum (can´t bring myself to RTFF once more).It's no problem getting re-entry. Just tell them at reception when you are first leaving and they will take your key, write down the number on the list and then get you to sign it. When you return, just tell the receptionist your locker number and she'll give you the key and a new robe and off you go.

Angus Magee

10-29-10, 20:51

I didn´t find any info regarding re-entry on the official Artemis home page, but I have a recollection it was discussed on this forum (can´t bring myself to RTFF once more).

Just tell them when you leave that you plan to return and they will note your details and give you a new wristband when you come back. This is done all the time. Just ask Charlie;)

AM

Kimino

10-29-10, 22:27

Hi,

On this Sunday(Oct.31st）I will be at Artemis and this will be the 3rd time for me to visit the club. Like the previous times, I got so excited.Banging is not important, just like the atmosphere there. Does anyone will be there? Say, I will be there at about 8 pm. It will be fun meeting ISG friends there.

I'll be there, and I'll stay until 5am when i'll catch my flight.

Totally no hair, a bit tanned, in the forties, 180, definitely robust, some say fat :-) I wear personal slippers. Google says the translation is thong. ?!?
Ehm... I probably look very italian :-)
I wear the watch on the right arm.

It will be great meeting you.

Ciao

Bearsk

10-30-10, 16:12

There is a picture of Siana or Sienna on the website with Conni, i think. She is hot and performs, also very nice.
Nina is cute but have never been there, thanks for the post.

I paid a trip to the Artemis for the 3rd time on Wednesday. I had sessions with 3 girls and had a mixed experience overall.

I arrived around 16.00 and there seemed to be more men than women circulating, The last time I was at Artemis I had a great time with Liz and Shelby so I did a quick circuit but couldn’t find either of them. It was time for a new experience so after a circuit of the bar I took a seat next to Yasmine (or maybe Jasmine) who said she was from Germany. Tall, blonde hair and a really nice body. After a little chit-chat during which she said she didn’t kiss we went to a room. The ‘no-kissing’ condition should have been enough to put me off but she looked really good in her lingerie and I was really eager to start my sessioning. Overall it was a lacklustre experience – she was quite cold and not very enthusiastic. Standard bbbj, daty then a few position before finishing in doggie. I wouldn’t repeat.

I took a little break before circulating for girl 2. I spotted a stunning girl on the stairs leading up from the wellness area and made a beeline for her. She said her name was Sienna (again, I’m not 100% on the name) and that she was from Bulgaria. She was physically similar to Yasmine (tall, blonde, awesome tits and ass) but she was a completely different experience in the room. She was loads of fun and kissed like a champion. We had a great time and the €60 was money well spent.

When we headed back downstairs the dynamic had changed completely – there were a lot more women than men and the atmosphere in the bar was really lively. The food was served and it was really good – I had slices of pork and vegetables. No complaints on that front.

I fancied one more session before I left and I felt like a change from my usual dies of tall, well endowed blondes. I spotted a small and very cute dark haired girl sitting at the bar and started a conversation. She told me her name was Nina, she is 25 years old and she was Czech. She was really charming and I took her upstairs as fast as I could.

Nina was the highlight of this trip. A total pro who gave one of the best blowjobs I’ve ever had. I had to keep interrupting to keep from finishing early. Even though this was my third session of the day she had me on the brink almost from the start. We hit a handful of positions, her cowgirl and reverse cowgirl were incredible. And I finished in doggie. We were both dripping with sweat and gasping for breath by then. A wonderful end to a mixed day. She offered extras, including anal for €100, but I refused. Although I was mighty tempted by the sight of her perfect little ass bouncing up and down. I tipped her €10 and would most definitely repeat if I ever make it back to the Artemis.

Looking on the Artemis website none of the girls I was with are pictured.

I think I spent around 3 hours there and when I left I did intend to go back later than evening but once I hit my hotel room I crashed completely.

Fkknomad

10-30-10, 17:15

Very easy to find Artemis after Angus Mcgee's video. I should have taken my time to choose but I felt crunched for time to try for 2 SOG and get back quickly. Artemis was way to smokey in the dark cramped main room. Unusual setup being on 4-5 floors in a suburban setting. All connected by a large spiral stair. Spa area and large kino and quiet bar are in the basement. Lockers (funny main showers and my naked ass could be seen from the front glass door), large bar in the Main room small kino and restaurant (never even tried the food). Upstairs are bedrroms with a keytag system. No outdoor space at all.

Katiana Ro 5'5" very smiley pretty face upon intro but later none.....Light brown hair to mid back 5'4" 130lbs 36B 29 36. 22 years old. Limited service standards with no LFK/DFK or BL or DATY. Some TS. A real dissappointment unless I just got sharked. At least she didn't jump to bbj right away but awkward light caresses without kissing doesn't do much for me. Katiana had a BIG box that was over sized and over lubed. Her only response was when we fucked she started to groan but with the dreaded head turn. MPOS FS was available but I stuck to mish to get it over with. No repeat for Katiana

Afterwards my proper assessment of the Artemis SPs is mostly older compared to Oase or World or even Palace. Mostly Romanians again but really dumpy shaped fat asses. Some with guts and 50%+ with fakes. Old hippy chicks everywhere. Maybe 3 girls of doable age. Perhaps 3 pretty faces but sharky. Of the 2 slim girls both were uggers. With the beautiful girls walking around Berlin I would have expected a much better selection.

I left disgruntled and after a couple hours after an unsatisfying 1st SOG and without a 2nd sog. 80€ entry, 60€ session and 11€ cab ride. About $230. No repeat for Artemis.

My overall FKK Artemis Rating.
• Girls (looks, youth, slim) - 5/10
• Selection (Quantity and variety of non Romanian) - 6/10
• Service - 4/10
• Food - 5/10
• Facilities - 6/10
• Cleanliness - 6/10
= 32/60

Charlie 123

10-30-10, 17:54

Just tell them when you leave that you plan to return and they will note your details and give you a new wristband when you come back. This is done all the time. Just ask Charlie;)

AMCorrect - I leave and come back later pretty much every time I visit. Just don't forget your key number in the interim.

C

Kurre

10-30-10, 17:56

Just ask Charlie;)AMYeah, every forum needs its Charlie:)

Monday and Tuesday will now be dedicated to mongering in Berlin. Reports will follow. In case anybody needs to contact me in Artemis, I will be the guy in a bathrobe sitting either in the bar or on a couch or in the cinema, occasionally drifting to a room with a spinner or two in tow... Feel free to tap me on the shoulder.

Password will be "In quest for the always elusive perfect night at an FKK".

Charlie 123

10-30-10, 23:18

Hi,

In a recent post on the Oase thread, I asserted that ‘Taking all factors into consideration, Artemis remains the premier large FKK club in the nation’

I wonder to what extent that viewpoint is shared by experienced FKK attendees on this board? – I suspect that I am in the minority.

Today in the Berlin thread poster Fkknomad gave the following rating in various categories for Artemis based on what I understand to have been his first visit to the club earlier this week:

My overall FKK Artemis Rating.

• Girls (looks, youth, slim) - 5/10
• Selection (Quantity and variety of non Romanian) - 6/10
• Service - 4/10
• Food - 5/10
• Facilities - 6/10
• Cleanliness - 6/10
= 32/60

I have taken the liberty of deciding to undertake a survey of contributors to these pages, in order to ascertain the most popular/best FKK club in Germany.

Whilst I broadly agree with Fkknomad on the selection of categories, I don’t reckon that they are all equally important and I do not feel that they should all carry equal weighting. I do not believe, for instance, that ‘Girls’ and ‘Food’ are equivalent considerations in assessing the merit of an FKK club. So, I have devised a slightly different scoring system to reflect the priorities as I envisage them: -

1. GIRLS (appearance) – maximum 25 points
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) – maximum 15 points
3. SERVICE (from the girls) – maximum 25 points
4. FOOD – maximum 8 points
5. FACILITIES (other than food) – maximum 10 points
6. CLEANLINESS – maximum 8 points
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) – maximum 5 points
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – maximum 4 points

Total maximum points = 100

This scoring system affords 65% of the weighting to the ladies and 35% to extraneous aspects of the establishment, which feels about right to me. No doubt others will have their own ideas as to how these categories ought to be weighted, but I didn’t want to undertake a survey as to how I should structure the survey……..

I invite all experienced mongers to rate the various FKK’s that they have visited, and I will collate the evidence at the end of November and post the collective view of this board during the first week of December.

I am going to impose a few conditions for qualification, in order to effect some statistical integrity to this survey: -

a) The ratings of anybody with less than 20 posts to his name will not be taken into account unless he can clarify why his view should be factored in.

b) As this is to be a comparative exercise, unless you have visited at least 2 (and preferably 3) FKK clubs in central Europe, please do not proffer your rating.

c) Please confine your ratings to clubs that you have visited at least twice – anybody can have a shitty experience at a club on a single visit. An exception to this qualification is afforded to Fkknomad, as the inspiration for my survey, who is cordially invited to resubmit his rating for Artemis on my prescribed scale.

I am submitting this posting on each of the individual threads pertaining to the major FKK clubs. If you decide to post a rating, please do so on the thread designated for that thread – i.e. your rating for FKK Palace should appear in the FKK Palace thread, not wherever you happened to read this posting.

I have myself visited about ten clubs in Germany and Switzerland to date, but I have made multiple visits to only four of them, and I will post my own ratings on those four later tonight

Consumer surveys of this sort usually have some sort of incentive attached to them, in order to attract responses. In keeping with this tradition, at the end of the month I shall conduct a random draw from the names of those persons who have replied. I will announce the winner of that draw and I shall pay the entry fee for that person to visit the German FKK club of his choice on any date before Christmas. If for any reason that person is unable to visit a club before Christmas (shame on him – what sort of undeserving monger is he?!), then he may nominate any other board contributor of his choice (who has posted at least 20 times this year) to be the beneficiary of this prize.

I hope that I am not breaking any forum rules with this exercise – I just thought it would be interesting to see what the consensus view is about the relative merits of the various clubs that we attend.

Best,

Charlie

Charlie 123

10-30-10, 23:40

Hi

Here is my own set of ratings for fkk artemis:.

Girls 19/25

Selection 11/15

Service 17/25

Food 6/8

Facilities 9/10

Cleanliness 6/8

Staff 4/5

Accessibility 3/4

Total – 75/100

Charlie

Kimino

10-31-10, 02:29

Ciao.

How can you give a vote for the food if you didn't even try it?

Rocketboy0

10-31-10, 10:28

Angus Magee

10-31-10, 10:44

Surprisingly Artemis is really the only club I am qualified to rate given the guidelines of the survey. So here goes. And I am also having to mention that my visits are much less frequent of late so take that into cnsideration

1. GIRLS (appearance) – 20/ 25 points
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) –10/15 points
3. SERVICE (from the girls) – 18/25 points
4. FOOD – 5/8 points
5. FACILITIES (other than food) – 8/10 points
6. CLEANLINESS – 7/ 8 points
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) –4/5 points
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – 3/4 points

Total=75/100

Over all I like Artemis. Recently though I have been privy to some of their behind the scenes workings and can say that there is certainly room for improvement but little incentive to improve. They are the only FKK game in town after all. Let's just say that were I running things (easy to say) I might put a little more effort into how they hire the girls. The girls are, after all, the backbone of the operation.

AM

Kimino

10-31-10, 11:41

Just a quick report on what has been going on at A in the past 2 days.

Quite a lot of people around. Couple of italians (from Naples) got kicked out for acting like aholes.

The day before, I resessioned with Raffaella and resessioned with Connie. Loved both, particularly the first one. Both reported other times.

Yesterday, sessioned with Carmen.
Said she was from Israel, tall, dark hair, blue eyes, piercing or something at the nose. Nice but nothing special.

Berna
Turk, black hair, dark eyes, not very tall beautiful body.
Started off really badly in the kino, was going to pay her just to leave, the rooms appeared to be all full. I told her we should check if one of the rooms downstairs was free, and one was.
In the room, and mmaybe because i managed to get her sweet side to come out a bit, she really changed. It ended up we had a real nice session, anal, cim, the whole kit. Costed a fortuna but was really great, unexpected.

Will be there today, and fly away tomorrow morning.

Anyone coming in?

Ciao

Fkknomad

10-31-10, 15:02

True Kimino, I gave a neutral mid score for the food based on selection.

My revised "weighted" ratings for FKK Artemis.

Girls 12/25
Selection 12/15
Service 10/25
Food 4/8
Facilities 6/10
Cleanliness 5/8
Staff 3/5
Accessibility 3/4

Total – 55/100

Nille Copenhagen

10-31-10, 15:24

Artemis,Palace,Oase,Goldentime,Villa Vertigo

1. GIRLS (appearance max 25) 20 21 19 21 19
2. SELECTION (variety max 15) 13 14 12 13 13
3. SERVICE (the girls max 25) 21 18 19 23 23
4. FOOD (maximum 8) 5 6 3 7 7
5. FACILITIES (non food-10) 9 7 7 6 7
6. CLEANLINESS (max 8) 7 7 4 8 8
7. STAFF (friendliness max 5) 4 4 3 5 5
8. ACCESSIBILITY (max 4) 4 3 2 2 2

Scores:
Artemis: 83
Palace: 80
Oase: 69
GT: 85
Villa Vertigo: 84

Bearsk

10-31-10, 21:32

Here are mine, I will only post here:
Artermis (12), Palace (3), Oase (2) - number of days I have been to each in the last year or so.
1. GIRLS (appearance) 20/25, 20/25, 16/25
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) 10/15, 12/15, 9/15
3. SERVICE (from the girls) 21/25, 17/25, 22/25
4. FOOD – 3/8, 6/8, 5/8
5. FACILITIES (other than food) - 8/10, 7/10, 6/10
6. CLEANLINESS – 6/8, 5/8, 5/8
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) – 5/5, 3/5, 4/5
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – 4/4, 3/4, 2/4

Total maximum points = 100

My totals:
Artemis: 20+10+21+3+8+6+5+4 = 77/100
Palace: 20+12+17+6+7+5+3+3 = 73/100
Oase: 16+9+22+5+6+5+4+2 = 69/100

I like all 3. Artemis is actually excellent except for the food and I would like an outside area.
Palace is very good but many of the girls are sharks so you need to look out and the staff are not as helpful. I think is in part because most customers come once in a while, not many regulars.
Oase is interesting. Its more difficult to access and the girls are not as pretty but outside is good in the Summer and the girls go out of their way to please.

1. GIRLS (appearance) – maximum 25 points
2. SELECTION (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) – maximum 15 points
3. SERVICE (from the girls) – maximum 25 points
4. FOOD – maximum 8 points
5. FACILITIES (other than food) – maximum 10 points
6. CLEANLINESS – maximum 8 points
7. STAFF (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) – maximum 5 points
8. ACCESSIBILITY (transport-wise) – maximum 4 points

Total maximum points = 100

This scoring system affords 65% of the weighting to the ladies and 35% to extraneous aspects of the establishment, which feels about right to me. No doubt others will have their own ideas as to how these categories ought to be weighted, but I didn’t want to undertake a survey as to how I should structure the survey……..

I invite all experienced mongers to rate the various FKK’s that they have visited, and I will collate the evidence at the end of November and post the collective view of this board during the first week of December.

I am going to impose a few conditions for qualification, in order to effect some statistical integrity to this survey: -

a) The ratings of anybody with less than 20 posts to his name will not be taken into account unless he can clarify why his view should be factored in.

b) As this is to be a comparative exercise, unless you have visited at least 2 (and preferably 3) FKK clubs in central Europe, please do not proffer your rating.

c) Please confine your ratings to clubs that you have visited at least twice – anybody can have a shitty experience at a club on a single visit. An exception to this qualification is afforded to Fkknomad, as the inspiration for my survey, who is cordially invited to resubmit his rating for Artemis on my prescribed scale.

I am submitting this posting on each of the individual threads pertaining to the major FKK clubs. If you decide to post a rating, please do so on the thread designated for that thread – i.e. your rating for FKK Palace should appear in the FKK Palace thread, not wherever you happened to read this posting.

I have myself visited about ten clubs in Germany and Switzerland to date, but I have made multiple visits to only four of them, and I will post my own ratings on those four later tonight

Consumer surveys of this sort usually have some sort of incentive attached to them, in order to attract responses. In keeping with this tradition, at the end of the month I shall conduct a random draw from the names of those persons who have replied. I will announce the winner of that draw and I shall pay the entry fee for that person to visit the German FKK club of his choice on any date before Christmas. If for any reason that person is unable to visit a club before Christmas (shame on him – what sort of undeserving monger is he?!), then he may nominate any other board contributor of his choice (who has posted at least 20 times this year) to be the beneficiary of this prize.

I hope that I am not breaking any forum rules with this exercise – I just thought it would be interesting to see what the consensus view is about the relative merits of the various clubs that we attend.

Best,

Charlie

Bearsk

10-31-10, 21:36

Carmen is now Israeli, what BS!!

Yesterday, sessioned with Carmen.
Said she was from Israel, tall, dark hair, blue eyes, piercing or something at the nose. Nice but nothing special.

Bearsk

10-31-10, 21:42

I agree with Angus, the newer girls can be a lottery. I am doing more repeats.
The other thing I like about A is the staff, Ana (spiky blonde, often on front desk), Lydia (blonde hair in pigtail, often works downstairs bar), red headed younger lady with a snake tattoo on arm and massage guys are very pleasant a good part of the experience for someone traveling.

Over all I like Artemis. Recently though I have been privy to some of their behind the scenes workings and can say that there is certainly room for improvement but little incentive to improve. They are the only FKK game in town after all. Let's just say that were I running things (easy to say) I might put a little more effort into how they hire the girls. The girls are, after all, the backbone of the operation.

AM

Angus Magee

10-31-10, 21:54

Carmen is now Israeli, what BS!!

Carmen is Ro with mixed heritage. She does like to tell you different stories dependent on her mood or just the day. I found her a nice session. Not a barn burner but nice. She is actually a fairly intelligent woman and if you engage this intelligence and take no shit (she will try it on) she can be a fun girl.

AM

Aklein

10-31-10, 22:14

My ratings artemis

Girls 15/25
Selection 13/15
Service 22/25
Food 4/8
Facilities 8/10
Cleanliness 7/8
Staff 4/5
Accessibility 4/4

Total – 77/100

Kimino

11-01-10, 01:19

Quite a bunch of people tonight, all is fine.

Laura
Hungarian, dark long hair, clear eyes. Nice smile and very sweet. Keeps a chain around her hips. Small tits.
Would repeat, very nice long session. Doesn't do anal.

Reresessioned with Raffaella.

Now i'll just die out around the pool :-)

Ciaooo

Oliver Huntemann

11-01-10, 08:15

1. Girls (appearance) – 20/ 25 points

2. Selection (variety, in terms of looks, nationality, ethnicity, age/experience etc) –12/15 points

3. Service (from the girls) – 18/25 points

4. Food – 4/8 points

5. Facilities (other than food) – 9/10 points

6. Cleanliness – 6/ 8 points

7. Staff (friendliness, helpfulness etc – also website usefulness) –3/5 points

8. Accessibility (transport-wise) – 3/4 points

Total=75/100

Iseeu

11-01-10, 10:58

Hi

Here are my ratings for Artemis:

Girls 19/25

Selection 10/15

Service 14/25

Food 4/8

Facilities 7/10

Cleanliness 7/8

Staff 4/5

Accessibility 4/4

Total – 69/100

Kimino

11-01-10, 18:43

Here we go.

Here are my ratings for Artemis:

Girls 20/25
Selection 10/15
Service 18/25
Food 4/8
Facilities 7/10
Cleanliness 7/8
Staff 4/5
Accessibility 4/4
Total – 74/100

Here are my ratings for Paradise Stuttgart, based on 2 visits in 2008:

Girls 18/25
Selection 8/15
Service 15/25
Food 5/8
Facilities 6/10
Cleanliness 7/8
Staff 4/5
Accessibility 4/4
Total – 67/100

Here are my ratings for Colosseum Augsburg, based on 2 visits in 2008:

Girls 16/25
Selection 8/15
Service 15/25
Food 1/8
Facilities 4/10
Cleanliness 7/8
Staff 3/5
Accessibility 3/4
Total – 57/100

Ciao

Kimino

11-01-10, 21:24

I agree with Angus, the newer girls can be a lottery. I am doing more repeats.
The other thing I like about A is the staff, Ana (spiky blonde, often on front desk), Lydia (blonde hair in pigtail, often works downstairs bar), red headed younger lady with a snake tattoo on arm and massage guys are very pleasant a good part of the experience for someone traveling.

Totally agree on this one. There's just one of the girls (actually a woman) at the front desk sme times that seems a little less gentle than the others, but totally efficient. It's the one that looks really ugly.

I find the staff very discreet and very professional, they manage to keep tight in all sorts of situation. I find the security guys very very efficient jumping out from nowhere immediately when there's the need still being almost invisible normally.

Are there cameras all over the place? I wonder how this works because they are always present when needed.

Ciao

Kimino

11-01-10, 21:30

Carmen is now Israeli, what BS!!

Now that I recall, It's the second time that we session together and both times she passed me the Israeli stuff. :-)
Well, I also do this kind of stupid things with girls I session for the first time in some occasions.
And obviously, all the names that we hear from the girls are bs anyways so why worry about the nationality :-)

I was the one saying "no no no more german girls" and the following day getting 3 german girls ina row and being so happy about it.

Ciao

Bobo.fr

11-02-10, 02:45

Well, some years ago I was in Artemis and thought that I would never be back.

So, "never say never". As I needed a good and strong massage, I decided to go to Artemis.
Entrance : 80 Euros
1 hour of (good) massage : 50 Euros.

Mettings with (chronologically) :
1) Nele/Nela : thin, long blonde hair lady. I thought she was not tattoed but actually she did have some but hidden by her long hair. No DATY allowed.
2) her friend "Mike" : "Ice" would suit her better because she is rather cold
3) Katharina : long blonde (slightly red ?) lady from Siberia; cute face. Nice meeting. Sensitive bosoms and pussy.
4) Cindy : young (19 years old) lady from Poland, applied in her job, nice (smiles) and cute. DATY possible but rather insensitive (probably deeply in love with her boyfriend ?). I met Cindy twice : before leaving Artemis, I would like to meet Katharina but I didn t see her; I only saw Nela, "Mike" and Cindy : I decided easily to go to room with Cindy, furthermore her smile was very disarming !!!

Well, Basketcase, you would say I only like blonde ladies !!! I tried to talk to a Non-blonde at the bar :
"Hello, what's your name
- Ivy "
and apparently she didn't seem interested in further conversation (was it just because of her shyness ?)

All of them didn't kiss (me).
They didn't "abandon themselves" (Katharina and Cindy said that they had a boyfriend).
They didn't seem interested in long (one hour) meeting so all these meetings were (less than) 30 minutes(60 Euros)-meetings : "fast fuck" with a RLD's spirit ( after (my) ejaculation, the meeting was considered as finished)

Bearsk

11-02-10, 06:06

Carmen is a good F--K but talks incessantly, largely to keep herself amused.

German girls: you seem to have repeat sessioned with Raffaella about 20 times ... it would be cheaper (but maybe less fun) to just marry her.

Now that I recall, It's the second time that we session together and both times she passed me the Israeli stuff. :-)

... I was the one saying "no no no more german girls" and the following day getting 3 german girls ina row and being so happy about it.

Ciao

Macca 74

11-02-10, 09:27

I spotted a stunning girl on the stairs leading up from the wellness area and made a beeline for her. She said her name was Sienna (again, I’m not 100% on the name) and that she was from Bulgaria. She was physically similar to Yasmine (tall, blonde, awesome tits and ass) but she was a completely different experience in the room. She was loads of fun and kissed like a champion. We had a great time and the €60 was money well spent.Another vote for Siana here. I sessioned with her a few weeks ago. While waiting for a room I felt she was a little cold and distant. I must admit I feared I may have chosen unwisely, but once in the room she was fantastic. She's very enthusiastic, the full GFE and stunning looking. A definite repeat.

Kimino

11-02-10, 11:41

Kimino

11-02-10, 11:52

Mettings with (chronologically) :
1) Nele/Nela : thin, long blonde hair lady. I thought she was not tattoed but actually she did have some but hidden by her long hair. No DATY allowed.
2) her friend "Mike" : "Ice" would suit her better because she is rather cold

Non-blonde at the bar :
"Hello, what's your name
- Ivy "
and apparently she didn't seem interested in further conversation (was it just because of her shyness ?)

Ciao Bobo.fr

Nela and Mike are the two blondes walking around all the time together? One very thin and the other one with a slightly larger ass, both very good looking? If it's them they really looked like sharks for many reasons. I saw a couple of faces of guys coming down from the rooms with them, self explanatory.

I saw at least 2 guys being totally rejected by Ivy, don't know what the criteria was. I sessioned with her a some time ago and posted a report.

Anyway, did this visit change your opinon on the place?

All the best!

Bobo.fr

11-02-10, 15:12

...
Nela and Mike are the two blondes walking around all the time together? One very thin and the other one with a slightly larger ass, both very good looking?
....

I think we're talking about the same blondes : Nela has tattoes on the back, hidden by her long hair; Mike doesn't have any tattoes. (I don't like tattoes; Cindy doesn't like tattoes, I hope that she will not change her opinion).
Nela and Mike seemed to be active hunters.

...
Ivy, .... I sessioned with her a some time ago ....
...

lucky man !!

...
Anyway, did this visit change your opinon on the place?
...

If I will go back, it will be probably much more for the massage (by real masseurs) than for sex ( I still prefer Kamilla-Dee ; by the way, 2 "hours" of sex in Artemis will cost 60 Euros * 4 = 240 Euros + 80 Euros (entrance) = 320 Euros = 2 hours of meeting at Kamilla-Dee !!!)

All the best!
Thanks, for you too !!!

Traveller Uk

11-02-10, 18:24

Firstly, apologies to those that I didnt meet on Sunday, I was so tired that I spent 2 hours asleep in the downstairs bar and left for my hotel at about 9.30, went straight to bed and slept like a log.

A fun 2 days was had though. My first entertainment was with Laura, dark haired Hungarian, she jumped me in the downstairs kino, great BBBJ in the kino and then to one of the downstairs rooms. Lovely as she is, I didnt feel she was as in to it as had been the case a few months before. Fun though.

Marina "from St Petersburgh" caught my eye, a blonde MILF with a fine figure, her service is good, she is open minded and is happy with DATY.

Marina from Poland (not the Hungarian Marina) was next, blonde, big breasts and enhanced lips. OK, nothing great,

Finally Mike as noted before, blonde, busty. As we went upstairs I remembered that I had seen her before and she was rather vanilla and distant. Not so this time, no kissing with tongues, but very tactile, respnded to DATY well and my experience with her was a good end to the day.

Sunday I started with Mike, followed up with Laura and then experienced a naturally huge breasted Romanian whose name escapes me - OK experience, she doesnt like cowgirl and was a bit clueless when it came to the use of those breasts, She is in her early 20s, so some experience may help.

Otherwise I chatted to Kathleen and commiserated with the Queen of Artemis about her crushed thumb - shut in a car door - Ouch!!

I think I need to take a break from Artemis as I found the weekend a bit mechanical, having been there quite often of late. A break until the new year is called for I think.

Charlie 123

11-02-10, 22:29

Marina "from St Petersburgh" caught my eye, a blonde MILF with a fine figure, her service is good, she is open minded and is happy with DATY.I have been with Marina a few times, with positive results. She used to be one of my regulars until another girl who had done a threesome with her told me something that put me off her. Without wishing to be excessively indiscreet, the warning referred to Marina having been not too 'fresh' down there. Having DATY'd her, no doubt you'd have noticed if the problem was still in effect.

Charlie

Bobo.fr

11-03-10, 11:21

......
Finally Mike as noted before, blonde, busty. As we went upstairs I remembered that I had seen her before and she was rather vanilla and distant. Not so this time, no kissing with tongues, but very tactile, respnded to DATY well and my experience with her was a good end to the day.
......
I would like to precise that Mike "worked" correctly, there's no scam, just don't expect any smile from her !!!

By the way, did anybody meet Brigitta, a Serbian tall lady ?

Dirtydog 1975

11-03-10, 13:05

I'll be there, and I'll stay until 5am when i'll catch my flight.

Totally no hair, a bit tanned, in the forties, 180, definitely robust, some say fat :-) I wear personal slippers. Google says the translation is thong. ?!?
Ehm... I probably look very italian :-)
I wear the watch on the right arm.

It will be great meeting you.

CiaoHi Kimino, I guess I posted the line too late, otherwise we could arrange the meeting there early. Anyway, I was there at around 8:30 pm and found out that it was pretty quiet comparing with my previous 3 visit 1 year ago. Maybe it because it was on Sunday.

Drunk one beer at the bar and survey the surroundings, few girls intrigue my interests. The rank of the girls dropping in my mind. Went to the dinning place and snack some bacon and roasted chicken. Nothing exciting. Went to the kino and found out a girl is giving BJ to a guy, later on fucked him hard. The girl has short blond hair and bounced up and down on the guy who was just laying on his back in the far back row in the kino. This scene raise my desire and started to search the type of girls that fit me. Late on Michelle from Romania approached me and we had a short talk. I don't know if she is the girl that Charlie123 mentioned in his post. She said she'd only been working at Artemis for a couple of monthes. I liked her red lips that looked very sexy. But I had some names of the girls that mentioned here who are good at service and I hoped that I could have the chance to meet. So I politely rejected to going upstaires with her. Been approached by several girls, but none of them had the named that beared in my mind. So decided to have a session with Antonia from Romania. She had a dyed blond hair and slim shaped body. Her teech are not neat in a funny shape but I liked her natural tits. Up in the room she give me a standard service. Good BBBJ without feeling of her teeth. Afterwards some DATY and different postions of fuck. Her pussy is pretty tight but I guessed she dosen't have passion in it. She said she has been in Artemis for 5 years. I guess the long time working here make her to be more professional instead of passionate. Anyway how can we expect the girls have "passions"all the time when they work here for such a long time and maybe have sessions 5-6 times one day?

Had another beer and walked around the club, used the facilities for relax. At the down stairs kino, headed in a girl had a sweet smile from Bulgaria(forgot her name, 170cm, dark hair, natural tits). Told her to meet her later in the upstaires bar. Half an hour later she came to me and asked if I would go up stairs with her. Headed up stairs with her and in the room she was ok. But no DFK. This a little bit pissed me off. My little friend unfortunatley sleep for the reason. She said she could suck me till I came into her mouth with another 50 euro. But I know in this situation I could never come. So she suggested to prolong to 1 hour and she could do me a massage and then we could try again. I don't want to go back to hotel with disappiontment, so agreed with her offer. Her massage was ok but nothing special and exciting. With our effort, we make my little friend erected again and finally came into her hand.

Anyway, this time of the visit to Artemis is not like the previous ones that brought me so many surprises. Maybe it's because after 4 times of visitting it, I've got tired of it. Or maybe I didn't meet the right girls. But I know that I will come back again for sure?.

My overall FKK Artemis Rating.

• Girls (looks, youth, slim). 6/10

• Selection (Quantity and variety of non Romanian). 6/10

• Service. 4/10

• Food. 5/10

• Facilities. 7/10

• Cleanliness. 7/10

= 35/60

Kimino

11-03-10, 15:24

By the way, did anybody meet Brigitta, a Serbian tall lady ?

Been there... :-)

Think I filed report on her. I recall it as a positive session but won't repeat.
Basically nice enough, sweet enough but nothing special with me.

This means that the girls is absolutely fine but that simply nothing special triggered with me. Might be different with others. She definitey is intriguing IMO.

Ciao

Traveller Uk

11-04-10, 21:56

It is odd how we have different experiences with the same ladies? I guess that jus shows what a human experience this really is.

I find both Kathleen and Mike very chatty and friendly even when they know that I am not going to take them to a room. Dont know why, I claim no special social skills although I do tend to prefer the quiet daytime hours when there is more time to talk and the ladies are often a bit bored and happy to chat.

At the end of our half hour Mike was in no hurry to leave the room and was happy to chat away. She has a pretty smile, when she gets round to it. Maybe the first time I met her she was having a bad day? I will party with Mike again.

Ref Marina - no problems with hygiene in my experience, maybe she had feedback?

Markthomas1950

11-06-10, 11:54

I think I need to take a break from Artemis as I found the weekend a bit mechanical, having been there quite often of late. A break until the new year is called for I think.Hay Traveller Uk,

That is just not right!

Do you know how long that is? I mean to the new year! That is how long time we are talking about man. What ya gonna do bad boy? Lay low in purgatory? Get your ass back to Artemis man.

Kimino

11-06-10, 15:37

I think I need to take a break from Artemis...

Me too. Last visit got a bit too much "mental" with at least one girl :-)

Might be visiting Samya in Koln or Oase... bit scared of being disappointed... I really like Artemis. What's the closest place to Artemis? Meaning the most similar so don't tell me "Artemis' parking" :-)

Lookin for a place where one can also send a lot of hours relaxing.

Ciao!

Markthomas1950

11-06-10, 16:17

Me too. Last visit got a bit too much "mental" with at least one girl :-)

Might be visiting Samya in Koln or Oase... bit scared of being disappointed... I really like Artemis. What's the closest place to Artemis? Meaning the most similar so don't tell me "Artemis' parking" :-)

Lookin for a place where one can also send a lot of hours relaxing.

Ciao!Hay Kimino

I have been to Artemis, Palace and Paradise, amongst other clubs. It is these three clubs that I wish to do the compare and contrast given you are more used to the Artemis style club.

When I went to Paradise I immediately thought of Palace in terms of its decor, layout and facilities. When I went to Artemis once again I immediately thought of the fantastical Palace in Ffm in terms of comparability. Oase and Samya just do not look the same as Palace, Paradise or Artemis.

I can spend many hours relaxing in Palace, Artemis or Paradise. I do less relaxing at the other clubs as I am prone to do other extra curricular activities so to speak.

If you close your eyes and add some imgaination when you are in Palace you will feel you are in Artemis due to the decor except the location is in FFM and not Berlin. The girls will be a constant stream of well made up lady love friends that take care themselves and look immaculate.

Best of all there will be numerous Italians there so you will feel right at home.

Charlie 123

11-06-10, 18:36

Me too. Last visit got a bit too much "mental" with at least one girl :-)

Might be visiting Samya in Koln or Oase... bit scared of being disappointed... I really like Artemis. What's the closest place to Artemis? Meaning the most similar so don't tell me "Artemis' parking" :-)

Lookin for a place where one can also send a lot of hours relaxing.

Ciao!Try Oase.

For a new experience, I suggest Bernd's. Something one has to do at least once.

You should have taken up my recommendation about the blond Romanian cutie Mara that I introduced you to last week. I had a repeat session with her on Thursday and she was just fabulous. So sweet, so sexy and so

Wet A real GFE treat

Friday night I disgraced myself. 4 hour champagne session in the room with my old friend Selma and her blond German friend Safira. It was very nice and Safira is a genuine and sexy girl, but the bill was exorbitant and I woke up feeling thoroughly ashamed. Next week I shall confine myself to 'quickies' only as a punishment

Keep well.

Charlie

C

London Traveller

11-06-10, 23:08

A very brief report on a good Saturday (today). I met up with my new Youppie pal and found that girls behave totally differently when you are sitting chatting to another guy as compared to when I was on my own previously. Far less of them approach and those that do are much less pushy. Definitely to be preferred.

Thanks to my new friend I received a recommendation of a Czech girl called Esther. She is 30, has cute wavy/curly hair at about shoulder length, a nice curvy figure (fake tits - new this year - but quite a good job) and a beautiful face. In the room she was a good performer, perhaps not the most adventurous or disinhibited, but competent and fairly willing. After about half an hour or so I persuaded her to go out of the room and we continued in one of the circular beds in the main lounge. She was a bit apprehensive and tried to pull the curtains all the way round without a gap, fortunately being unsuccessful, although nobody could possibly have seen in as it was very dark!

The afternoon was a bit of a desert for girls but eventually I spotted a curvy brunette who actually had been at breakfast but had got dressed and left the building (to buy some sexy underwear I later discovered) returning later in the afternoon to begin the late shift. Her name is Leila and her natural curves are stupendous. It was only her second day at Artemis (although she also works at another club) and she said that she was a bit nervous. She chatted with me for 20 minutes before we went to room 12 (Greek Parthenon theme) and proceeded to have an excellent, in fact really amazing, GFE experience, including a tit wank and a relaxing massage at the end of the 90 minutes I spent with her.

Angus Magee

11-07-10, 09:46

Next week I shall confine myself to 'quickies' only as a punishment

Charlie, you really know how to punish yourself. I should be so lucky as to receive such admonition for my transgressions.

And Kimino, I also wanted to suggest a trip to Oase. My own one visit was throughly enjoyable. It is a different club with a different over all feel to it. The girls I found hotter, though one is never really sure if this is due to an actual reality or just a new crew to drool over. Whatever the case it was for me a fun visit. My return to Artemis had me quite critical of the more business like air of the Artemis girls. In the end though I think it is simple good to try something new from time to tima. Like I have to mention this to a bunch of mongers.

AM

Kimino

11-07-10, 13:07

Friday night I disgraced myself. 4 hour champagne session in the room with my old friend Selma and her blond German friend Safira. It was very nice and Safira is a genuine and sexy girl, but the bill was exorbitant and I woke up feeling thoroughly ashamed. Next week I shall confine myself to 'quickies' only as a punishment

Ahahah Bravissimo! Party party!
Must have been great. Next time we meet you must ecxplain me in details what you manager to do for 4 hours with 2 girls. I'd probably die after half that time.
But I understand it's kind of a diferent experience, toyal relax etc. Must be sure about the girls.
Money? It's there to be spent, it's useless in your pockets! :-)

And Kimino, I also wanted to suggest a trip to Oase.

Thx for the suggestion Angus, I'll make up my mind. Anyway I MUST NOT VISIT ANY FKK BEFORE JANUARY!!!! :-) Agrghhh...

Hay Kimino

I have been to Artemis, Palace and Paradise, amongst other clubs. It is these three clubs that I wish to do the compare and contrast given you are more used to the Artemis style club. ...

Thx for the info!
I did visit Paradise in the past and I agree it's very similar to Artemis.

We wil see what the future brings up.

Cheers everybody!!!

Bobo.fr

11-07-10, 14:51

......
Anyway I MUST NOT VISIT ANY FKK BEFORE JANUARY!!!! :-) Agrghhh...
...

... and visit Kamilla-Dee (or other "houses" mentionned in Angus' blog) for example :-)

Basketcase

11-07-10, 15:12

Friday night I disgraced myself. 4 hour champagne session in the room with my old friend Selma and her blond German friend Safira. It was very nice and Safira is a genuine and sexy girl, but the bill was exorbitant and I woke up feeling thoroughly ashamed. Next week I shall confine myself to 'quickies' only as a punishment
Hi Charlie 123,

4 hours with two girls at Artemis is not that bad price wise. That would be 4 hours x 2 girls x 60€ = 480€ without extras or negotiation prior.

During my mid October 2010 trip I spent 3,500€ over 4 days club visits.

May I ask you a question about your session with Selma and Safira? When you say you woke up feeling ashamed - did you fall asleep during your 4 hour session and woke up realising that you were still in the room and getting charged for the time?

Hey, guys do that. I know one guy did that at Golden Time with two girls. Even I have done it and the clock keeps ticking. Man, you do feel silly or ashamed as you say.

Akibono

11-07-10, 15:47

Hi Charlie 123,

4 hours with two girls at Artemis is not that bad price wise. That would be 4 hours x 2 girls x 60€ = 480€ without extras or negotiation prior.

During my mid October 2010 trip I spent 3,500€ over 4 days club visits.

May I ask you a question about your session with Selma and Safira? When you say you woke up feeling ashamed - did you fall asleep during your 4 hour session and woke up realising that you were still in the room and getting charged for the time?

Hey, guys do that. I know one guy did that at Golden Time with two girls. Even I have done it and the clock keeps ticking. Man, you do feel silly or ashamed as you say.

Do the math again. It's 120E/hr not 60. OUCHie!

Basketcase

11-07-10, 16:27

Do the math again. It's 120E/hr not 60. OUCHie!
Yes 480€ per girl. I did think that the cost of the 4 hour two girl session was 960€, I made a typo mistake, but since there is such a short window to correct a post now on ISG once it was up I could not amend my post. All I can say is well done to the man for such good work boning two Germans and giving them a good lesson.

It was akin to me spending nearly 1000€ a day on my mid October trip but since I was only doing one on one sessions I was getting double the time in the room though. Albeit was I going heavy on the extras like COB, CIM and Anal sex. It was 3500€ on sessions and hotels, car rental, meals, petrol, public transport, flights would have been another 800€ so 4,300€ for the 4 days.

Lots of fine memories to cherish. I am glad some of the sessions ended up on soft copy.

Member #4243

11-07-10, 20:43

I have a few things that I would like to check about artemis, as it one of the places on my checklist, as a possible club to visit;

1)are girls fully nude on all days, or do they have lingerie nights? Half the fun of visiting the clubs is seeing the girls nude!

2)are artemis still welcoming customers of all races? Ie there is no discrimination based on race; door policy?

3)on a good weekend night how many girls are present in the club?

For akibono I have replied to your remarks about me on the samya thread.

Thanks to all,

Mohab

Nille Copenhagen

11-07-10, 23:23

Hey, guys do that. I know one guy did that at Golden Time with two girls. Even I have done it and the clock keeps ticking. Man, you do feel silly or ashamed as you say.That is why I like GT, LR and VV, Samya, prices in NRW are the best for longer roomtime.

I've never done 4 hour sessions, but I done a few 2H sessions with 2 girls total damage 300€+extra, not bad.

Nille

London Traveller

11-07-10, 23:54

After my successful Saturday I thought that today (Sunday) might be a bit of a let down but I preserved the quality by going for old flames as there didn't seem to be too much new talent around.

At breakfast I spotted a cute girl (sorry I don't know her name) who had been recommended by my Youppie pal as being good, however she disappeared upstairs to her room immediately afterwards and although she might have reappeared later in the day I couldn't stay around to see as I had to get my flight and leave by 5 pm.

I was a bit disappointed by the talent on display and when Nina appeared I was delighted to see her. She introduced me to her Czech companions (including my friend Esther from yesterday and a cute petite blonde called Marketa - does anyone know anything about her?) and then we went to chat on the sofa. Nina told me that she had read my previous review of her on here as one of her clients was printing them out for her. She considered it over-detailed but admitted that I only wrote good things about her (all true of course). So, if you're reading this Nina - HELLO THERE! Nina is a real talent in her business and I think she has a naughty streak as well (in the best possible sense) so I invited her down to the Kino for some fun. Once in there she gave me the most incredible BBBJ that I've had for quite some time, she's a real expert in this regard. She started off on her knees next to me and then (at my suggestion) was happy to kneel down in front of me and that was very sexy indeed as she was able to make good eye contact - just how I like it. She almost sent me over the edge on at least a couple of occasions, including during a tit wank which she spontaneously provided, but I resisted and then I gained confidence and asked her to mount me on the sofa, which she did very competently. She bounced around a bit and then I did something new for me - I picked her up (she's quite petite) and lay her down under me on the couch, proceeding to give her a good shagging. At first she was a bit surprised but she went along with it all quite gamely. I thought that time was getting on and as I had other plans for the afternoon I only wanted a half hour session at this point so I ended before I finished (if you see what I mean) and Nina seemed a bit surprised by this, thinking me a bit strange, I think it was because of this anyway, although she had previously said that my sense of humour was a bit unusual too. At the end of the session she told me that she also considered that I had very good value for my 60 euros (maybe too good) and she's probably right as she was working very hard the whole time. I will make it up to you Nina next visit, I promise! You're a real star :o)

In the afternoon I spent an hour more of quality time with Leila, the Polish girl who I had seen on Saturday. Such an affectionate GFE as she gave me is hard to find and I was very satisfied when I had to leave for my flight.

London Traveller

11-08-10, 00:00

Happy Birthday Nina! I hope you have a great party.

London Traveller

11-08-10, 00:41

I have noticed that the rooms at Artemis are very different and that the girls sometimes don't choose the best one. Can we contribute to a list of the rooms that will help us choose the best one for our needs each time (availabilty permitting)?

Here are my two contributions (I can't remember the numbers of the others I've been in but will do better in future).

Room 6. 'Casablanca' - not much of a theme but a round bed in the corner with two large wall size mirrors on each wall behind it (at right angles to each other) going right down to bed level. There is a sofa.

Room 12. I'm not sure of the name but it is Parthenon themed with two Caryatids either side of a large mirror behind the large square bed. There is also a daybed.

Charlie 123

11-08-10, 03:56

Yes 480€ per girl. I did think that the cost of the 4 hour two girl session was 960€, I made a typo mistake, but since there is such a short window to correct a post now on ISG once it was up I could not amend my post. All I can say is well done to the man for such good work boning two Germans and giving them a good lesson.

It was akin to me spending nearly 1000€ a day on my mid October trip but since I was only doing one on one sessions I was getting double the time in the room though. Albeit was I going heavy on the extras like COB, CIM and Anal sex. It was 3500€ on sessions and hotels, car rental, meals, petrol, public transport, flights would have been another 800€ so 4,300€ for the 4 days.

Lots of fine memories to cherish. I am glad some of the sessions ended up on soft copy.Actually, I had 1 hour with Selma whilst waiting for Safira to turn up, so total damage was:-

Selma - 600E
Safira - 500E (incl 20E tip)
Champers - 150E
Total - 1250E

Dunno about you Basket, but it felt like a lot of money to me.

The 'ashamed' bit came about 'cos I have been trying to refrain from having excessively expensive outings in recent months, and I failed miserably in that aim last week. Whilst I do like to have extended sessions much of the time, there is no way that I had 3 1/2 times as much fun/value for my 1250E as I would have received from, say, 3 one-hour sessions.

Much of the time was spent laughing and chatting, and it was a very enjoyable evening, but I just felt afterwards that I had not behaved prudently or in accordance with my intentions. It is very much in my nature to overdo things (drugs and gambling are just 2 activities that I have done to excess at certain times in the past), and I often find myself having to give up 'hobbies' permanently because I have been unable to excercise moderation in my practice of them. My primary feeling when I left Artemis was 'Fuck, I have to stop this madness' rather than 'Wow, that was fun, 1250E well spent'.

It's just a personal thing.
Best,

Charlie

Angus Magee

11-08-10, 08:22

I have noticed that the rooms at Artemis are very different and that the girls sometimes don't choose the best one. Can we contribute to a list of the rooms that will help us choose the best one for our needs each time (availabilty permitting)?

I am pretty easy with room choice myself. That is I have found most to be serviceable and a couple to be very nice. A word with the girl to chose a nice roomdoes help. The room off the far end of the hall, no idea which number, is my favorite.

Two rooms I refuse to visit as they are more like broom closets fitted with single beds are #7 and #14. I will wait or call of the session if the girl insists we go to these two rooms.

Toscana

11-08-10, 09:03

She introduced me to her Czech companions (including a cute petite blonde called Marketa - does anyone know anything about her?) Yes, several of us. As your search will reveal. ;-)

London Traveller

11-08-10, 09:30

Yes, several of us. As your search will reveal. ;-)Yes, you are right. I put the query in my report without doing my homework. I will make a bee line for Marketa when I am at Artemis again (visits scheduled for December/January/February).

If anyone would like to meet up with me at Artemis on 4/5 December please get in touch!

Bearsk

11-08-10, 16:15

1)are girls fully nude on all days, or do they have lingerie nights? Half the fun of visiting the clubs is seeing the girls nude!
Varies from girl to girl whether they wrap in something light but most are nude every day except for Wednesdays.

2)are artemis still welcoming customers of all races? Ie there is no discrimination based on race; door policy?
There is no race discrimination ... unless you are Italian (joke) ... the place is owned by a Turk and there is a major mix in the girls. If you behave like a jerk, they don't like it. Some girls have individual things like not liking facial hair, body odor etc

3)on a good weekend night how many girls are present in the club?

Mohab
60-80

Angus Magee

11-08-10, 16:19

My primary feeling when I left Artemis was 'Fuck, I have to stop this madness' rather than 'Wow, that was fun, 1250E well spent'

That is a hefty bill for an evening at Artemis. In the past I have spent at times way too much (in proportion to my income at the time) on the ladies. I have also awoken with the the deep regret of having spent a bundle and not had a proportionally great time. My own strategy at such a moment was to console myself with the notion that I had done my duty as a consumer and stimulated the economy. At least you went for the €150 bottle of Champers and didn't double the bill with a €1200 bottle.

AM

Angus Magee

11-08-10, 16:22

Happy Birthday Nina! I hope you have a great party.

Have to ask-does Nina read the forum?

AM

Charlie 123

11-08-10, 17:13

That is a hefty bill for an evening at Artemis. In the past I have spent at times way too much (in proportion to my income at the time) on the ladies. I have also awoken with the the deep regret of having spent a bundle and not had a proportionally great time. My own strategy at such a moment was to console myself with the notion that I had done my duty as a consumer and stimulated the economy. At least you went for the €150 bottle of Champers and didn't double the bill with a €1200 bottle.

AMIn the old days, I used to regularly stagger out of the casino at closing time with a fiver in my pocket having maxed out my credit cards and exhausted my borrowing facilities with my friends at the club. It's a horrible feeling. Last week felt like a diluted version of that.

Ah well, as the saying goes, we live and don't learn.

C

Traveller Uk

11-09-10, 10:42

Hay Traveller Uk,

That is just not right!

Do you know how long that is? I mean to the new year! That is how long time we are talking about man. What ya gonna do bad boy? Lay low in purgatory? Get your ass back to Artemis man.

Worry not - there is soooo much action in London ;0

Bearsk

11-09-10, 17:26

Marketa is nice, cute, younger than her stated 30 years, excellent BoBos.

Yes, you are right. I put the query in my report without doing my homework. I will make a bee line for Marketa when I am at Artemis again (visits scheduled for December/January/February).
!

Traveller Uk

11-09-10, 21:50

Marketa is nice, cute, younger than her stated 30 years, excellent BoBos.

Oh God Yes! Gorgeous and cute. Gazing up at her face as she bounces up and down is a great experience. She doesnt give up ...

Malago

11-10-10, 07:55

Hi guys,

I'm off to Artemis tonight and would be soo happy if someone could recommend some of the darker girls working there(african, south american, mid east, thai etc.) im not that into them east european girls.

Best Regards

Bearsk

11-10-10, 16:34

Angus Magee

11-10-10, 16:52

I would be interesed in other feedback from the group.

There is always Naomi. ;)

AM

Macca 74

11-10-10, 19:28

I would be interesed in other feedback from the group.
Luna from Brazil is nice. Quite dark-skinned, petite and a good GFE.

Charlie 123

11-11-10, 15:17

Hi

Wednesday:

1) Renewed acquaintance with Ella from St Petersburg after a 12 month gap. No description necessary here. She has been reviewed a million times. Really hot session. She is so great. DATY, fabulous slow BBBJ, sex in CG until (very quick) completion. Terrific hour = 120E.

If I had to recommend one single girl to a newbie looking to kick off his Artemis career with a winner, Ella would be my suggestion. The consumate pro and a master of the GF illusion.

2) Carla (Rom), dark hair, 170cms, slight tummy, C/D, large-boned, southern European features, speaks perfect English, very nice girl. She told me that she returned to Artemis that week after a break of a few years. Sweet girl, terrific performer, great slow BBBJ for 45 minutes solid, CiM finish. Not the best looker, but a class act in the room and a funny and sweet girl. Recommended

Thursday:

1) Samantha (Germany), 175 cms, georgeous figure, q dark skinned, fabulous the cups (man-made), pretty face, wonderful body. Hopeless BBBJ for 5 mins, so I flipped her on her back and fucked her for 10 mins before unloading. Great visuals, but no more than that. Recommended optifick, but if you want a sensual experience, look elsewhere. No repeat for me, but I booked it as a good-value session at 60 euros

2) Carla (see above) and her recommended GF Antonia. Mid/late 20's, blond, 160 cms, very pale skin, small tits, plain face, big personality. Carla picked out Antonia for me as a regular playmate of hers and someone she really 'gets it on' with. Great duo session with full lesbi accompaniments. DATY in all combos, fucking, double and single BBBJ action, CiM finish. 2 hour session. Both girls delivered exactly as promised. Highly recommended combo for a double-act, proper lesbi performance (not just 'lesbi show' nonsense). Expensive, but worth it

Best,

Charlie

Kimino

11-11-10, 19:16

2) Carla (Rom), dark hair, 170cms, slight tummy, C/D, large-boned, southern European features, speaks perfect English, very nice girl. She told me that she returned to Artemis that week after a break of a few years. Sweet girl, terrific performer, great slow BBBJ for 45 minutes solid, CiM finish. Not the best looker, but a class act in the room and a funny and sweet girl. Recommended

Sounds interesting!

The other Carla used to be one of my favorites.

Ciao

Luveibiza

11-12-10, 16:50

Kimino

11-13-10, 01:06

Hi fellow Artemis junkies.

My best friend is a total boob-a-holic and he is hooked on a girl called Clarissa from Hungary.

She has the biggest silicone tits you will ever see and blond hair.

Does anyone please have any details if she worksright now at Artemis or when she will appear again?

Come on now my fellow boob lovers, please share if you have the information on when she will be working.

Best regards

Luveibiza

If she is the one hanginga around with a couple of girls (both very nice) blonde and always working in couple, i'd take it as a real gamble.
The two girls, imho, are total sharks, cold as ice and in the "not this, not that" pattern, i sessioned with one of them, crap. A friend of mine sessioned with the other, double crap.
Still, in this things, you never know, maybe the girl you are talking about is the best.
I wouldn't try it, but i don't even like the kind so take my pov for what it is.

Best

Angus Magee

11-13-10, 08:54

Traveller Uk

11-13-10, 11:25

Basketcase

11-13-10, 12:24

2) Carla (see above) and her recommended GF Antonia. Mid/late 20's, blond, 160 cms, very pale skin, small tits, plain face, big personality. Carla picked out Antonia for me as a regular playmate of hers and someone she really 'gets it on' with. Great duo session with full lesbi accompaniments. DATY in all combos, fucking, double and single BBBJ action, CiM finish. 2 hour session. Both girls delivered exactly as promised. Highly recommended combo for a double-act, proper lesbi performance (not just 'lesbi show' nonsense). Expensive, but worth it

Best,

Charlie
Charlie

In Hesse and NRW, in my experience, the two girl scenario is double pay, that is, each girl gets paid the standard cost to peform standard service at the same time in the rom. If you want the lesbian aspect included where in the same session you want the girls to interact with each other as well as you then the price of that standard session is two times for each girl.

Extras in Hesse are usually 50€ extra and in NRW the pricing is 25€. Extras at Artemis is 50€ and not 60€.

If the girls at Artemis do not see lesbianism as an extra then you would have paid the standard price per half hour for the 2 hours so that would be 480€. Was it this case Charlie 123?

To put numbers on if the lesbian aspect of the duo was an extra:

Two girls for half hour for a standard session is 120€.

Two girls for half hour with lesbian extra is 220€ being 60€ for the half hour to each girl and 50€ for the lesbian extra for the half hour to each girl. Is that correct?

I have not done a duo at Artemis before whereas I have in NRW clubs and Hesse clubs a few times.

So if I have it right then the 2 hour two girl session was 880€ being 4 lots of half hours at 220€ per half hour. That is 80€ less than the 960€ for the 2 girls for 4 hours.

That is not too bad. Good work. It is sessions like these that we make fond memories from and know that we have lived and experienced the good things.

Charlie 123

11-13-10, 13:07

Charlie

In Hesse and NRW, in my experience, the two girl scenario is double pay, that is, each girl gets paid the standard cost to peform standard service at the same time in the rom. If you want the lesbian aspect included where in the same session you want the girls to interact with each other as well as you then the price of that standard session is two times for each girl.

Extras in Hesse are usually 50€ extra and in NRW the pricing is 25€. Extras at Artemis is 50€ and not 60€.

If the girls at Artemis do not see lesbianism as an extra then you would have paid the standard price per half hour for the 2 hours so that would be 480€. Was it this case Charlie 123?

To put numbers on if the lesbian aspect of the duo was an extra:

Two girls for half hour for a standard session is 120€.

Two girls for half hour with lesbian extra is 220€ being 60€ for the half hour to each girl and 50€ for the lesbian extra for the half hour to each girl. Is that correct?

I have not done a duo at Artemis before whereas I have in NRW clubs and Hesse clubs a few times.

So if I have it right then the 2 hour two girl session was 880€ being 4 lots of half hours at 220€ per half hour. That is 80€ less than the 960€ for the 2 girls for 4 hours.

That is not too bad. Good work. It is sessions like these that we make fond memories from and know that we have lived and experienced the good things.Carla charged me 120 + 120 + 50 for the lesbi = 290

Antinia was the same 290 + 50 for the CiM - 340

Macca 74

11-13-10, 13:16

I would suggest the Queen of Artemis, Jenna, for boobaholics who also want good service.Jenna does seem to get into the zone when she performs.

Last time I was at Artemis, I have a great memory of her in the kino with a punter who was just rubbing baby oil on her tits for about twenty minutes. I can think of worse ways of passing the time.

Basketcase

11-13-10, 15:54

Carla charged me 120 + 120 + 50 for the lesbi = 290

Antinia was the same 290 + 50 for the CiM - 340
Charlie 123,

Hell, that is a bargain. From what I know in Hesse for each half hour with lesbianism extra it is 50€ extra. Someone please correct me if I am wrong but that is what I paid. So it was only 50€ extra for the entire session for the lesbian extra. That is good value for money.

I thought it would be 880€ for the 2 hours and 2 girls excluding the CIM extra but it is actually 580€ so a saving of 300€. Well done there.

SuppenHuhn

11-13-10, 17:29

i would suggest the queen of artemis, jenna, for boobaholics who also want good service. she is a diminutive blond german woman, long hair and a massive set of tor****s. while she is a pro her service is very highly regarded among the regular german guests. she often sits, when not in session, at the end of the bar nearest the door to the stairs.

there are a couple reviews here if you search

amyes you are right.

if you like incredible boobs you must try jenna. her blowjow is the best i've ever had.

other girls with big boobs are catharina from germany and camilla from poland.

i hope i can visit artemis once more this year.

see you

suppenhuhn

Charlie 123

11-13-10, 18:39

Charlie 123,

Hell, that is a bargain. From what I know in Hesse for each half hour with lesbianism extra it is 50€ extra. Someone please correct me if I am wrong but that is what I paid. So it was only 50€ extra for the entire session for the lesbian extra. That is good value for money.

I thought it would be 880€ for the 2 hours and 2 girls excluding the CIM extra but it is actually 580€ so a saving of 300€. Well done there.Basket

Actually, the session was exactly 1 hr 35 mins. I asked Carla 'how much' and she responded immediately '290E for me and 340E for Antonia'. My first reaction was to be somewhat displeased at being charged for the 4th half-hour, seeing we had only exceeded 90 minutes only by virtue of Carla's suggestion that we enjoy a postprandial cigarette. And with my regular girls, I don't expect to be charged when we go five minutes over time. I didn't ask for a breakdown of charges, I just paid up. Then I thought about it a moment and realised that, if 240E per girl had been the amount of time-charge that I had incurred, the lesbi extras had been billed at only 50E per girl.

On balance, it was probably a 'fair' rather than a 'good value' price. Nevertheless, I have decided to accept your interpretation that I made 'a saving of 300E'. and I have decided to add this sum to my mongering budget for Tuesday night's forthcoming visit. I gather that various other ISG bods are going to meet there on Tuesday - if there any other forumites who plan to attend but haven't heard of our proposed congregation then plz PM me and we'll agree a mass meeting time and place

Cheers,

Charlie

SuppenHuhn

11-13-10, 20:59

Jenna does seem to get into the zone when she performs.

Last time I was at Artemis, I have a great memory of her in the kino with a punter who was just rubbing baby oil on her tits for about twenty minutes. I can think of worse ways of passing the time.I was the man in the kino who has rubbed baby oil on her boobs. It's a great feeling I can promise.

Big brother is watching you (smile)

Travelman10

11-13-10, 23:39

On my way for my third ever visit to Artemis. Will be there Monday 22nd. Would you consider Mondays slow days or no difference? Also, if anyone would like to join me please let me know. I'm planning to make it a full day and it would be great to have someone to chat with between sessions.

Thanks!

Macca 74

11-14-10, 14:10

I was the man in the kino who has rubbed baby oil on her boobs. It's a great feeling I can promise.

Big brother is watching you (smile)Good on ya, Suppenhuhn! You certainly seemed to be enjoying yourself, and Jenna seemed more than amenable to it. I take it she didn't need much persuading, even though it was probably an unusual request?

Basketcase

11-14-10, 16:18

Basket

Actually, the session was exactly 1 hr 35 mins. I asked Carla 'how much' and she responded immediately '290E for me and 340E for Antonia'. My first reaction was to be somewhat displeased at being charged for the 4th half-hour, seeing we had only exceeded 90 minutes only by virtue of Carla's suggestion that we enjoy a postprandial cigarette. And with my regular girls, I don't expect to be charged when we go five minutes over time. I didn't ask for a breakdown of charges, I just paid up. Then I thought about it a moment and realised that, if 240E per girl had been the amount of time-charge that I had incurred, the lesbi extras had been billed at only 50E per girl.

On balance, it was probably a 'fair' rather than a 'good value' price. Nevertheless, I have decided to accept your interpretation that I made 'a saving of 300E'. and I have decided to add this sum to my mongering budget for Tuesday night's forthcoming visit. I gather that various other ISG bods are going to meet there on Tuesday - if there any other forumites who plan to attend but haven't heard of our proposed congregation then plz PM me and we'll agree a mass meeting time and place

Cheers,

Charlie
Hi Charlie 123,

I have been there where a regular girl that you see charges an incremental 50€ or in your case 60€ for going over 5 minutes. You sometimes see the girls waivering that extra charge to some other customers but when it comes to you then you are wallopped for the charge.

Maybe the girls know that they can charge certain guys that extra 50€ or 60€ and the guy will pay up and then the girls know their customers that will whine and take issue with being charged 50€ or 60€ extra and not bother to ask for it. To the girls it is a business. It is about maximising their income whichever avenue it may come from.

You may be a good customer paying minimum one hour or more sessions but you will get the same treatment and social time prior to the session as the guy that pays 50€ or 60€ and milks the session to get to 40 minutes and pays over only 50€ or 60€. We are the guys that will folk over 100€ (Hesse) or 120€ (Artemis).

It does seem you got a good deal with the lesbian extra at 50€. You might not have got away with it in a NRW or Hesse club so you were fortunate there I think. Indeed a saving of 300€ compared to Hesse prices.

I too would be a bit pissed at the 60€ per girl charge for going over 5 minutes into the fourth half hour. That is 120€ extra. Knowing some girls they may have thought it longer since they may be counting from when they started chatting to you so to them they may have thought it was 15 minutes into the fourth half hour.

I know you say all you were having is a cigarette that took you into that extra half hour. However, if you read Gogo Guy's report on the Oase thread of his 12 November visit you can see he was not charged for the extra 50€ when he took 40 minutes since he was massaging Daria (ro). I know guys including me that have been screwed on that one before for an extra 50€.

I know there are girls at Oase that will start the clock as soon as a guy starts talking to the girl and they have said as much. There is even recent report in the Palace thread of an Egyptian girl that said to her customer in the cinema that she is charging the man from as soon as he starting talking to her.

I will not be around for next Tuesday I am sorry. I am canvassing the crew to gather in Berlin for one of our tours so we can meet the Berliners. I have left Artemis off my tour schedule for quite a while now.

Bearsk

11-15-10, 03:45

I am going to remind you of this post in the years to come...

There is always Naomi. ;)

AM

Bearsk

11-15-10, 04:05

Bearsk will be there ...

...still by the time I arrive I expect Charlie and friends will have:

1. selected 30 of the ladies to attend simultaneous lesbian duplas for 4 hours each with a 1 hour cunninglinguist tutorial from Charlie "1 on 1"in preparation.
2. organized them onto a bus to a special conference room of the ICC Messe for an orgy costing Euro 21000 (cash or cheque).

Thereby depleting the pool and raising subsequent expectations.

I will try to have a tidy experience despite things ... but it will be fun

...for Tuesday night's forthcoming visit. I gather that various other ISG bods are going to meet there on Tuesday - if there any other forumites who plan to attend but haven't heard of our proposed congregation then plz PM me and we'll agree a mass meeting time and place

Cheers,

Charlie

Bearsk

11-15-10, 04:09

Quiet day. Not many customers. Good line up.
Arrive 2pm left 3am.
Vivian of Slovakia.
Pimky from Thailand
Samira from Izmir in Turkey
Carmen from Romania.

Enjoyed it but tired.

Angus Magee

11-15-10, 06:57

I am going to remind you of this post in the years to come...

Just throwing it in there to see if anybody is awake. And to remind people to do their homework and read the thread.

AM

Devilspinkick

11-15-10, 09:35

Paid a visit to Artemis this past Saturday and it was packed with dudes. The guy to girl ratio must have been at least 2:1. The horror!

Quite a few hotties around, but I ditched the scene after a few hours in search of other venues. At least I was able to pump some iron at their nice lil' gym.

- DSK

Luveibiza

11-15-10, 11:37

i would suggest the queen of artemis, jenna, for boobaholics who also want good service. she is a diminutive blond german woman, long hair and a massive set of tor****s. while she is a pro her service is very highly regarded among the regular german guests. she often sits, when not in session, at the end of the bar nearest the door to the stairs.

there are a couple reviews here if you search

amhow can i have missed this girl? since my friend is crazy about big boobs i thought he had gone through every big titted girl in the place by now...

i will surely call the hotline for information regarding her being at work or not!

thank you

Luveibiza

11-15-10, 11:43

Jenna is lovely, great personality, huge breasts and a great service. She really gets into it, no matter how aften she has trotted up and down those stairs.

Hungarian Clarrisa is great, once seen never forgotten. I last saw her about 7 months ago - just as she was leaving. As she passed me, fully dressed, with luggage. She bid me farewell and said that she would be away for "many months". Lets hope she returns.

Her service was anything but icy and she was/is well worth seeing for boob lovers.

Kiminos is correct about the sharking blondies. All that glitters is not gold.Hope that she returns then!! I will be calling the hotline to see when she comes back.

If there are any signs of her coming back I will be on the plane ASAP and be there from morning 'til closing.

Thank you very much for your answer.

Been thinking about changing venue to Frankfurt/Palace but there is just something about Berlin and Artemis that keeps pulling me in....been in Frankfurt loads of times but Berlin suits me better. Never been to Palace and not getting response from the Palace crew through email rgarding some basic questions and also not liking Frankfurt that much makes me a Berlin/Artemis regular visitor.

Charlie 123

11-15-10, 16:41

Bearsk will be there.

Still by the time I arrive I expect Charlie and friends will have:

1. Selected 30 of the ladies to attend simultaneous lesbian duplas for 4 hours each with a 1 hour cunninglinguist tutorial from Charlie "1 on 1"in preparation.

2.organized them onto a bus to a special conference room of the ICC Messe for an orgy costing Euro 21000 (cash or cheque).

Thereby depleting the pool and raising subsequent expectations.

I will try to have a tidy experience despite things. But it will be funLook forward to seeing you. Please remember to bring adequate funds. To remind you, you need 80E for Artemis' entry fee and a further minimum 8500E in hooker subscriptions to sit at my table.

Bearsk

11-15-10, 17:03

You are on my Christmas list ....
you can have a chemistry set with extra washer bottles OR
Naomi.

Just throwing it in there to see if anybody is awake. And to remind people to do their homework and read the thread.

AM

Devilspinkick

11-16-10, 11:21

Paid another visit to the temple this past Monday. Walked through the doors around 4PM and got cleaned up. As can be imagined, it was more mellow this evening compared to Saturday. Fewer ladies available but at the same time far fewer dudes. Still more people around than I would have figured for a Monday. Chatted with Joy (Lithuanian) for a few minutes when I entered the main bar. Nice lady but of course I like variety so I told her maybe we'll hook up later. I grabbed a seat and was taking in the scene when after a few minutes a lovely and lean lady came up to talk to me. She called herself Neena and said she was from the Czech Rep. Very pretty face, good body with natural boobs, and I liked her sense of fashion (as if that really matters). I couldn't let this one go - so after a bit of talking and rubbing on each other we made our way upstairs. We ran through a few of the standard positions before finishing up doggy-style. May have to do a threesome with her and one of her friends later; we'll see.

Of course hit the gym for a spell afterwards and then relaxed in the sauna. Got back up to the bar in the evening and the scene was more festive with some more guys & gals running about. I was having trouble locking onto another lady. Denisia (Moldova) approached me a couple of times .... on her third approach I still hadn't picked anyone else so I figured why not. She's cute & lean and, like Neena, she also dresses like a fashion model. The festivities upstairs was as I had remembered from before: sex was rather bland yet she is quite good at fellatio. Had agreed that I would CIM, but I simply wasn't able to release again so soon. Gave her an "A" for effort and still paid her the extra €50. She told me that since I didn't really CIM that she didn't need to be paid the extra dough but I told her it was my fault that I didn't cum, not her's. Seems our birthdays are very close together and also very soon so we wished each other well.

Had to rest a bit more and yakked with other gals. A german lady from Bremen appproached me a couple of times. Not particularly hot (fact is, most German women aren't anything to get excited about) but she wasn't ugly either. Sort of tempted but apparently not that much because I didn't go with her this night. Since I had yet to be with a blonde lady this trip I decided to give a blonde the priority for my next round. I walked past the group of couches that's often occupied by the Polish and Russian dames, when a lady called out "Shoko, when are you going to go with me?". I looked down and it was a pretty little blonde gal that I had seen a few times Saturday. Nice body & IMO she has a striking resemblance to a well known pornstar in the USA. She had spoken briefly to me Saturday as she and another lady from Moldova (the one who freaked out about the size of my schwanz) tried to talk me into doing a threesome with them. Well she was blonde, has a pretty face, and a nice body - that met my criteria at that moment so off we went upstairs. Said her name was Mia (Poland) and she seemed to be pretty cool. When I jokingly asked her how many husbands she had she replied that she likes sex too much to be married. Wow, that's usually what I say to women. She surely did seem to be into sex and we had a spirited session together. We weren't finished at 30 minutes so I opted to extend the time to a solid hour. I might not see her again this trip because she said that soon she was going to go back to Warsaw to relax for a few days.

In the meantime, I think I need to do at least one menage a trois during my next visit to the temple.

- DSK

Devilspinkick

11-16-10, 12:06

Been thinking about changing venue to Frankfurt/Palace but there is just something about Berlin and Artemis that keeps pulling me in....been in Frankfurt loads of times but Berlin suits me better. Never been to Palace and not getting response from the Palace crew through email rgarding some basic questions and also not liking Frankfurt that much makes me a Berlin/Artemis regular visitor.

Given a choice between Frankfurt/Palace & Berlin/Artemis, I´d choose Berlin/Artemis at least five days out of the week. I really ony visit the Palace just for the sake of variety and there are a few gems to be found there. The city of Frankfurt isn't so horrible away from the trash surrounding the Hauptbahnhof but I happen to prefer Berlin over Frankfurt - not by a little but by a lot. Now given the match-up of Berlin/Artemis vs. Frankfurt/Oase then my choice will be much tighter. I bear the suffering of visiting Frankfurt due to the fact that I like Oase. But I dislike the fact that Oase is out in the boondocks. That's life.

"O tempora, o mores"
- DSK

Malago

11-16-10, 19:39

There are always a few around.

Shirley from Ghana is popular but gets variable reports.

Kimberley is half barbadan half german, tall, natural breasts, wet.

Maribel from Nigeria not sighted recently, cute body good performer like the A level.

Jennifer from Dominican Republic is Mulata mix, nice.

I would be interesed in other feedback from the group.So back home after some fun.

I did a girl from Ghana, short with very nice body. (must been Shirley)

I got amazing service from her, started with a 15min massage which was very good and to some extent professional. Then got a very very good blowjob, she almost reject me when I wanted a condom so I guess she gives without.

Then I fucked her and came pretty soon as her pussy was tight and I got good interaction from her.

I give her 8/10 but I'm not sure what I would like to give her a 10/10 so perhaps she is worth 9/10.

Then I did a Asian girl from Philippines (Manila) 26 year she said. I would have guessed abit more.

Went for the massage here also and got good massage, blowjobb was ok and fuck was decent. She where nice and kind and no rush but the pussy wassnt that tight.

I give her 5/10

Then I tryed some Colombian with a bit busty but stlil tight body.

First she told me I would get massage but in the room she wanted to just suck and fuck. I started with a blowjobb in the 69 position then I saw all the condyloma in her pussy and that turned me off a bit. But I still fucked her.

I give her 4/10

After the 3 girls I was a bit tired and spent some time in the soffa downstairs and after a while another older colombian girl came and talked with me. She was above 30 years old but she said she would give me good massage and after a while I wanted to try her to.

Went to the room and started with some nice massage then some suck and fuck with decent performance.

I give her 5/10

Travelman10

11-16-10, 22:31

Travelman10

11-16-10, 22:35

There is always Naomi. ;)

AMSince I had done my homework before my first visit :) I was able to avoid and decline her offer swiftly. And I did notice that she had little luck with the other customers. I suppose she makes some money since she's still around, but it can't be much?

Traveller Uk

11-17-10, 00:02

For my next visit, on Monday, Im thinking bout giving a full day. That will of course mean some time to relax aswell. Not sure how to phrase this question, but Ill try. Would it be considered strange if I bring a book to read by the pool or so? I have only been to Artemis two times but I have never seen anyone read. But since I don't have a given wingman I need something to do between sessions besides gym and TV.

Thanks

I quite often spend the day and read a book. Normally I sit at the downstairs bar reading with a coffee. Most the ladies leave you alone down there and those that do come to the bar come for a break and chat rather than drumming up business. Apart from Naomi, Angus' personal favourite.

I have not as yet had a massage from one of the vest wearing chaps but will do at some point.

A day swimming, reading, sauna-ing, watching porn and shagging gorgeous women. Its a toughie!!

Kimino

11-17-10, 13:31

For my next visit, on Monday, Im thinking bout giving a full day. That will of course mean some time to relax aswell. Not sure how to phrase this question, but Ill try. Would it be considered strange if I bring a book to read by the pool or so? I have only been to Artemis two times but I have never seen anyone read. But since I don't have a given wingman I need something to do between sessions besides gym and TV.

Thanks

I love doing so and did it quite a few times.
You can bring a book or similar to read. Atually last time I saw someone carrying an Ipad (has no camera). I'd ask the reception before bringin one inside.

You can relax close to the pool, hve a massage from the guys down there (great), sleep, do whatever and when you feel like it just grab a girl.

HEAVEN!

:-)

p.s. I never went to Artemis before 3/4 pm but stayed unil 5am quite a few times.

Angus Magee

11-17-10, 15:14

I have spent much time reading in the downstairs bar on a sofa. It is generally no problem though some prowling girls will use it as an excuse to approach and act as if you are doing something wrong. Let's just say this has happened but was easily rebuffed.

The only problem with reading is that the later it gets the worse the light seems to get. I personally would not be able to read in the loungers by the pool both as the lighting is bad and the sound horrible. Very echo-y.

Best is actually in the summer when I would read on a chair on the strip of grass behind Artemis. This was ideal as it was great light and very few girl venture further than the door.

On another note, last night there was a small meeting of ISGers at Artemis. Present were: Iseeu, Charlie 123, Bearsk, myself and an unnamed non ISG monger. I will be writing up a report, but not today. I am exhausted as I did not crawl in until almost 03:00 and worked today.

AM

Bearsk

11-17-10, 21:21

I use the double signal of a book and ipod and generally either sit at the bar or on the lounges around the bar. Interestingly will phone and other devices are banned, the Kindle and iPad seem acceptable provided you tell people you are reading.

It was nice to meet everybody. What became clear is that we do have something in common - we are trying in our own way to help people. Charlie did try to reserve the ICC Messe for an threesome theme orgy times 10 but he tells me it was fully booked. I will leave details of the scrum mechanics to Angus, who was in charge of the minutes of the meeting.

I had a nice day, I arrived in the morning, had breakfast and in a nanosecond had an urge for Vivian. An hour well spent, she is the consumate courtesan plus a really nice person. She had a big day the ISG and finished by changing into above need leather high healed black boots for an upstairs discrete acts with an older German fan of hers. Not quite to my taste, since I like getting to the shoes off and ticking to the feet.

I left and came back around 9pm. Met the chaps, very nice. They witnessed me ambushed by the Bulgarian duo of Siana/Siena and Victoria, who pinned me on the bed at the base of the stairs and proceeded to assess my assets. They wanted a duo - I declined and took Siana first for old times sakes. Physical session - almost too much for man in my condition - the body is perfect, although I could do without the enhancements, her nipples are special and she has a great face. Also reconnected with her after not seeing her for many months, usual dry sense of humor. I then met up with the boys again, who enquired as to my health but canceled the ambulance.

Later after chat, watched a couple of new blondes circulate as a pair (?optiflick) as well as two new girls: tall slim redhead and equally tall equal slim friend with blonde streaks then approaches from Soledad, Samira and others, opted for Victoria. Excellent choice. Went for well beyond and an hour. She seemed to get closed to orgasm during FS, I decided to help with a concerted DATY. 20 minutes later, tumultuous orgasm with some squirting. It was OK, I had proceeded without safety goggles and the raincoat was in the locker downstairs; scuba gear optional. She was embarrassed by the wet patch but stated she felt very good and had erotic itch of the nipples and belly button ... She then proceeded to jerk me off over her amply enhanced breasts.

It was a nice day. Left at 2.30am - inconvenient since the S bahn is off between 1 and 4am or so.

I have spent much time reading in the downstairs bar on a sofa. It is generally no problem though some prowling girls will use it as an excuse to approach and act as if you are doing something wrong. Let's just say this has happened but was easily rebuffed.

The only problem with reading is that the later it gets the worse the light seems to get. I personally would not be able to read in the loungers by the pool both as the lighting is bad and the sound horrible. Very echo-y.

Best is actually in the summer when I would read on a chair on the strip of grass behind Artemis. This was ideal as it was great light and very few girl venture further than the door.

On another note, last night there was a small meeting of ISGers at Artemis. Present were: Iseeu, Charlie 123, Bearsk, myself and an unnamed non ISG monger. I will be writing up a report, but not today. I am exhausted as I did not crawl in until almost 03:00 and worked today.

AM

Bearsk

11-17-10, 21:30

Norjan

11-17-10, 22:55

We feel there may have been a visit from Norjan to Artemis on Sunday and Tuesday. Norjan, can you confirm or deny?

There is evidence of a liquid explosion on the ceiling of room 16. Vivian votes for cum, I though champagne. Any clues folks?

There is a model of the Artemis extension in the entry foyer. Has this been approved?

Not guilty.

I was there during the IFA. Report will follow when i have time, but let me just say this for now:

Angus, your video of walking to Artemis was great but you forgot
shooting how to walk back (inside the station). That was a tricky part in the darkness.

I ended up getting lost at Westkreuz station, not knowing which train to go back with. Not a nice experience...

Norjan

Macca 74

11-17-10, 23:26

I ended up getting lost at Westkreuz station, not knowing which train to go back with. Not a nice experience.Try this website, Norjan.

http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html

It gives you all the Berlin train times and platform information you should need.

Travelman10

11-18-10, 11:47

Try this website, Norjan.

http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html

It gives you all the Berlin train times and platform information you should need.When we are on the subject, isnt there night trains anymore? Looks like the last train back to Mitte leaves at 1.09 am. After that you need to take the bus.

How much is a taxi to Alexanderplatz?

Macca 74

11-18-10, 22:22

When we are on the subject, isnt there night trains anymore? Looks like the last train back to Mitte leaves at 1.09 am. After that you need to take the bus.

How much is a taxi to Alexanderplatz?I'm pretty sure the S-Bahn runs through the night on Friday and Saturday nights. I've recently caught it at 2.30am on a Sat night/Sun morning. Check that website and it should be clear.

I think a taxi to Alexanderplatz would be around €25.

Bearsk

11-19-10, 01:11

They seem to have cut the service.
Taxi Alex platz prob E20

When we are on the subject, isnt there night trains anymore? Looks like the last train back to Mitte leaves at 1.09 am. After that you need to take the bus.

How much is a taxi to Alexanderplatz?

Bearsk

11-19-10, 01:29

Last day in town.
Arrived around 5.30pm.
Did a quick cruise and chat. Decided in Inga petit Thai lady. Excellent, choice, she was in fine form and responded to a bit of DATY with a delightful orgasm. My reward was subsequent action in a wet tight one. Quite exquisite. its the first time I have spent an hour with her. I will repeat.

Thought I had a LIzz sighting at dinner, there was lots on offer as it was a quite quiet early with a big influx of men around midnight.

I was approached by Carmen and Antonia for a dupla. I was not feeling the best, but agree to take Antonia because I had not been with her before. She was on my fantasy list. We had a nice chat and headed up. She certainly performed well whereas I was a bit below par - I am getting old and may be coming done with some sort of viral illness.

Had intended trying one more. Ideas of a Carmen finish, a first time with Luana, Danuela or Soledad did enter my mind and gaze. But I went to the locker and realized I had a fever so though it time to go.

A fun few days, not sure when back.

Charlie 123

11-19-10, 02:08

I was not feeling the best, but agree to take Antonia because I had not been with her before. She was on my fantasy list. We had a nice chat and headed up. She certainly performed well whereas I was a bit below par - I am getting old and may be coming done with some sort of viral illness.Antonia - small thin blond with very pale skin?

If so, I had a very nice double-up session with her and Carmen last week - nice girl, good performer

You did well to avoid Soledad in my opinion - promises the earthe but is a weak operator in the room. Wierd girl too - not my cuppa tea at all.

Charlie

Travelman10

11-19-10, 08:06

I'm pretty sure the S-Bahn runs through the night on Friday and Saturday nights. I've recently caught it at 2.30am on a Sat night/Sun morning. Check that website and it should be clear.

I think a taxi to Alexanderplatz would be around €25.I looked at a Monday/Tuesday, might explain it.

ZimmerBaby

11-19-10, 13:46

sir angus magee kbe, dear gentlemen, here are the votes of the filthy traveller: please note: i am an fkk addict, not english language teacher. following action took place in the late august, early september and late october. 2010

artemis food:

there are lots of good restaurants in berlin, but i have never found the kitchen of artemis in any a la carte review. that surprises me a lot, i love the crisp bacon which is being served for breakfast. otherwise i strongly recommend tubi, a vietnamese restaurant in leibnitzstrasse - charlottenburg.

artemis girls:

marketa: cze, 30 years, blond, beautiful -face, - hair,- breasts,- lower back, - upper back, flat stomach. dfk, daty, bbbjcim, gfe. speaks english properly, has a beautiful personality also. i love this girl. i like her too much. her skin is soft as turkish sweet seedless grapes. her clit is hidden behind her nice labia minor, which is smoothly covered by the pink labia major. pussy and ass tastes fantastic. i love rimming marketa while i look at her beautiful angel eyes. 10 times with her, never disappointed. sometimes i daydream about her. painful, but worth it.

adela: cze, maybe 30 years,very slim, brown hair, 174 cm is a friend of marketa. very friendly and warm personality. i feel that she reads me as a open book. she is experienced, had her only once. never fucked, only bbbj. sucks balls till you scream of pleasure. she actually played with my rear end, massaged my prostata, made me finish without ejaculating. spooky and strong sensation. she had my dick in her mouth while this happened. i thought she had swallowed my cum, and my hiv radars started processing. gave her 110 for the session, she gave my 50 back and told me she knew i was confused, that i finished without cim. i smiled, kissed her and tipped her 20. was full of energy when i left artemis. had to masturbate to calm down when i reached the hotel, even though it was 4 am. would repeat.

joy: lt, maybe 35, brown hair, works mostly downstairs cinema. not my type of girl to be honest, but when she kissed my neck and scratched my virgin cold balls that morning, i was lost. good session, she could fuck and she seemed like enjoying it. i was going to finish in doggy, but i love to get my balls sucked, so sucked them hard while she in a priceless way marturbated me till i shot myself in my left eye. she could have been a great nurse, cause in many hours afterwards she asked me about my cumshot-victimized left eye, which was sore and red.

carolina:lt, 27 years, beautiful brunette, short hair, elegant face. could have worked in fashionshops at kadewe. gfe, amazing dfk. almost fell in love. ass is maybe one size too big from calling her perfect regarding looks. pussy is more dark with minor labia lips. not as pink as marketa, but more cappuchino. all services made with elegance and good sensation for the client. drawback is she has been influenced by german pornsounds which i consider as turn-off. but it has never damaged my sex.

laura: hun, 28 years. fantastic body, especially face and legs. long brown/black hair, tanned skin, 170. fantastic , fantastic kisser, excellent ballsucking, bbbjcim. speaks little english, she say she lives in budapest, but she looks loke a rare beutiful mix of latino, ee and italy. gipsy + hungarian maybe? small breasts with a tatoo below her umbilicus. on my top 5 chart. skin like salmon from norh sea. will repeat, and have done it 5 times.

pia: 23 ger: optifick, friend of jane from hamburg. beautiful face and smile, nice model hair. problem is she wants your money, and works too hard trying making cim. i love 69 because her pussy is deliciously fleshy and pink, and i like to suck on them. i told i wanted little slower session, she kissed my lips, went back to the dick and sucked in the same speed as the vehicles of hallenseestrasse. been there-done that.

jane: ger: 23, from hamburg, studies the art of marketing. tall slim blond with everything required in a mans optifick-fantasy, specially the view of her class a pink pussy in 69. looking at her body in the mirror, and mostly her lower back figure, tasty juicy, fantastic pussy is worth the experince. i regard her as the most popular girl at artemis. i presume she fucks 30 guys each evening. so i recommend playing "one in a million" by guns`n`roses as a soundtrack.no kissing. been there, will repeat in 1 year just for the view.

safina: ger, 23 also a friend of pia and jane. more smiling and warm girl, no kissing, very common fenomena amongst the blod german and polish girls. why is this connected to eachother? pussy is made in heaven, perfect shapes, good taste. fuck was a bit mechanic. will not repeat.

ivy: 21 ger. reminds me of lena from melody grand prix. tall, slim, brown hair, a-cups. no kissing included in ordinary sessions. she is too young for this, not relaxed, not singing "satellite" during the sessions. but i like her. she is sweet when the ice melts. spends time to talk and relax in the main lounge. pussy is class a. even though i prefer the fleshy types. will repeat just to examine her developement.

chanel: maybe 26, 170 cm, blond, c cups, on the artemis website. she is more wild than other german girls. tells you to lick her ass, when you are cleaning her pink pussy. actually i love it. you can be wild and have a good time. sucks your balls in a pleasing way. don´t forget to shave them of course. maybe repeat, but there are so many others on the menu.

malvina: 23 rus - lives in germany, from st. petersburg. tall, strong and dominant in the communication, she really can make me feel small at times, but when you arrange a session of 1 hour, this girl transports you to the gates of heaven. 69 bbbjcim, gfe, daty, dfk. her tasty fleshy pussy lubricates as the river spree. amazing sessions, one of the best i have ever had, and i am far from being a virgin. moment to remember. while doing 69, she plays with your ass, sucking the balls, and gently masturbating you perfectly! my god, my god, amazing!

Akibono

11-19-10, 17:39

One of the best reports about Artemis this year. Keep it coming. LOL! Give Janine (de) a spin. She has a photo on the site and does kiss. I have also noticed this trend among German girls. Most do not kiss. This seems to be much more common these days.

Norjan

11-19-10, 18:54

Try this website, Norjan.

http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html

It gives you all the Berlin train times and platform information you should need.

Thanks man. I've seen that site but once in place I'm so stressed out that I don't remember much of it and all the lines, platforms etc. is very confusing.

On my first visit I took a taxi back to the hotel, easier but it does'nt feel very secure at late hours. (Do not trust the drivers).

Norjan

Macca 74

11-19-10, 19:18

Great report, Zimmerbaby. Thanks very much!

Macca 74

11-19-10, 19:20

Thanks man. I've seen that site but once in place I'm so stressed out that I don't remember much of it and all the lines, platforms etc. is very confusing.Do what I do, Norjan, and write it down or print it out. It can be a little difficult to remember after a session at Artemis.

Bearsk

11-20-10, 04:49

Antonia, yes fits description, friend of Carmen and Rafaela.
Antonia and Carmen offered the double, I said one at at time, do you think I am Charlie or something?

Soledad, may put her best forward for me? First time was average, much better since, crazy though.

Antonia - small thin blond with very pale skin?

If so, I had a very nice double-up session with her and Carmen last week - nice girl, good performer

You did well to avoid Soledad in my opinion - promises the earthe but is a weak operator in the room. Wierd girl too - not my cuppa tea at all.

Charlie

Bearsk

11-20-10, 04:53

Nice post, ZB.
Ah!, Marketa, peaches and cream ....

so many great girls, so little time, energy and money!!

I am an FKK addict, not English language teacher. Following action took place in the late august, early september and late october. 2010

Artemis girls: ...

Marketa: CZE,

.... Maybe repeat, but there are so many others on the menu.

Travelman10

11-20-10, 12:05

Angus Magee

11-20-10, 18:01

Looking forward to Monday. I thought I would try a girl or two with 'porn' looks and style if you know what I mean. The heels, tits and so on. I guess some of them might be to opti and not the best in the rooms, but any suggestions for girls with both looks and good performance.

I've looked through the posts but any tips is appreciated. In an old post I myself recommended a girl with the style I like. Blonde with a few tattoos on her back, a lynx if I remember correctly. Can't remember the name though. Might start with a C. Connie maybe? 'Downside' with her, small breasts.

Thanks!

Connie is not really blond and has back tats of, I think, angel wings. And yes, small breasts. She is a nice girl in the room but can be all about business outside the room. That is she is not much for small talk and wants to "zimmer' with a minimum of fuss. One can not blame her but I myself like a wee bit 'o chat before hand. I myself cam to grief over this issue with her on Tuesday. I was quite prepared to take her to the room but upon making contact she insisted-zimmer now, no talk! Maybe it was my pride but I balked at this attitude and declined.

However, earlier in the evening I sent a fellow monger I had met her way and the result was two thumbs up and a big smile from this monger. And I remember myself loving her porn-y blow job. So IMHO, you could do a lot worse than Connie.

AM

Kimino

11-20-10, 18:18

Looking forward to Monday. I thought I would try a girl or two with 'porn' looks and style if you know what I mean. The heels, tits and so on. I guess some of them might be to opti and not the best in the rooms, but any suggestions for girls with both looks and good performance.

I've looked through the posts but any tips is appreciated. In an old post I myself recommended a girl with the style I like. Blonde with a few tattoos on her back, a lynx if I remember correctly. Can't remember the name though. Might start with a C. Connie maybe? 'Downside' with her, small breasts.

Thanks!

I agree with Angus about Connie. I've been watching her for a long time but didn't happen to session because something was telling me that it was going to be a bad one. I was totally wrong she is really hot. I recommend.

It's very personal obviously and it's a matter of taste, but If you want real goodlooking girls that also perform very well, I would try one or both of the following german girls, I usually see them in the afternoon, not at night.
(I plan to have them both in a room some day).

"Elena, german. Dark hair, 168, super nice body, very nice ass. Piercing on nipples and tongue.
She really looks nice IMO.
Can't remember the age but very young, probably 22/23.
Sweet but very hot!!!"

Or

"Liz, 21 yr, very long brown hair, tall, around 170.
Incredibly blue eyes, very cute and very nice body. Nice smile.
Lots of piercing, not a suicide girl type but probably looking that way. In the look I mean."

I liked both very much.

HTH

Banner123

11-20-10, 19:34

[QUOTE=Travelman10]Looking forward to Monday. I thought I would try a girl or two with 'porn' looks and style if you know what I mean. The heels, tits and so on. I guess some of them might be to opti and not the best in the rooms, but any suggestions for girls with both looks and good performance.[QUOTE]I had a great time with Shelby back in September, I think she fulfils your criterea. She has big, fake tits and walks around in a pair of thigh high boots and a mesh boob tube. Pure porn start fantasy material. She was something special in the room as well, very vocal and eager to please. She sat on the couch behind the bar, the one directly in front of you when you come from the locker room. Unfortunatly when I was in the Artemis a few weeks back I couldn't find her and I haven't seen her name in recent reports so there's a chance she's not there any more. If you can find her I can recommend spending some time together.

Angus Magee

11-20-10, 20:02

"Liz, 21 yr, very long brown hair, tall, around 170.
Incredibly blue eyes, very cute and very nice body. Nice smile.
Lots of piercing, not a suicide girl type but probably looking that way. In the look I mean."

Kimino-is Lizz still around? I have not seen her for months, maybe 6 or so. But then I have not been around much either have I.

I agree though, if you like her look, Lizz is a sweetie and a very good session.

AM

Kimino

11-20-10, 21:25

Kimino-is Lizz still around? I have not seen her for months, maybe 6 or so. But then I have not been around much either have I.

I agree though, if you like her look, Lizz is a sweetie and a very good session.

AM

Ciao Angus!

My report on her was in 09-11-10 (ie. September) so It's like 3 months ago.
But you are right, I didn't saw her last time I was in Berlin, and I did look for her. :-)

Pity.

She might be coming back.

Best

Bearsk

11-21-10, 00:36

I am pretty sure I had a Lizz siting in the meal room on Thursday.
She used to have a pierced cheek on the right and now its gone. So not sure if it was her. I think she comes and does the early shift at times. I last saw her during the day in the Summer, she then disappeared.
She remains on my fantasy list.
Photo link
http://www.fkk-artemis.de/upload/1282751247_IMG_0033.JPG

Ciao Angus!

My report on her was in 09-11-10 (ie. September) so It's like 3 months ago.
But you are right, I didn't saw her last time I was in Berlin, and I did look for her. :-)

Pity.

She might be coming back.

Best

Pudendal

11-21-10, 09:48

On another note, last night there was a small meeting of ISGers at Artemis. Present were: Iseeu, Charlie 123, Bearsk, myself and an unnamed non ISG monger. I will be writing up a report, but not today. I am exhausted as I did not crawl in until almost 03:00 and worked today.

AMOK - unnamed non ISG monger checking in - just signed up on ISG and making my first post.

Hi AM, Iseeu and Charlie 123 - it was a pleasure to hang out and chat with you all earlier this week at Artemis. Iseeu, I apologize for leaving without saying good bye to you but you were "occupied"- anyway thanks and maybe I'll run into you again at any number fun places around the world.

I was at the entrance and the lady was explaining the fee structure etc since this was my first time at Artemis, anyway this guys standing right next to me introduces himself and offers to show me the ropes and invites me to hang out with the gang. I had no idea the gang was actually the "legends" of the forum.

Started of by checking out the place and decided on a tallish, B cup, blond German lady who spoke very good English. Was a 5/10 session - nothing bad but nothing fantastic either. I'm really bad with names.

After that met Iseeu and he introduced me to AM and later Charlie 123. Turns out Iseeu, AM and me are all from the same neck of the woods. Anyway during the conversation AM's accent kept triggering something at the back of my brain- so I asked him if he had a blog and thats when I got to know their their forum names. It was a very fun evening - thanks gentlemen.

After a while AM points out a girl and says "she gives great blowjobs and is a dirty little girl" - tall, skinny, short dark hair, perfect round ass - so up I jump and track her down. AM was right on - this was probably one of the best sessions I'v ever had - great blow job very porn style and she really got into it. Fantastic sex with all kinds of positions - really slamming and pounding and she was all for it. Half way through she said she wanted CIM and that seemed like the perfect ending with her so finished with CIM. I'm very bad with remembering girls names - AM can you help with her name?

Needed a longish break to recover after that and was debating to either call it a night or check out one more. Chatted with the gang for a while and them hit the sauna. The thai girl was in the sauna and has a fantastic body - just the two of us- naked and chatting in there.

On my way back up I ran into this very hot chick I had been checking out all evening - saw her at the top of the stairs and started chatting. Long brown hair, fantastic body and very pretty - decided to session with her cause I just wanted to. Was the worst mistake - great eye candy but crappy service - so this became a grudge fuck of sorts - pounding her just to get my eye candy $ worth of watching myself with her. Met up with the guys later and mentioned this to AM and Charlie123 and AM knew exactly who she was and was not the least bit surprised by her crappy service.

AM - help with her name again if you remember who I'm talking about.

That ended the night at Artemis - had all levels of service - bad, average and fantastic. Highlight was probably meeting up and getting to hang out with these guys in a completely random way.

Cheers

Angus Magee

11-21-10, 10:17

Last year at about this time Iseeu, ever concerned with broadening Angus’ mongering horizons, suggested, nay insisted, that we meet and do a short FKK tour of some of the better clubs in Western Germany. The result was a sex and fun filled three days visiting three clubs (Samya, Bernds, Oase) and hanging with a truly gentlemanly monger, Isseu. Thus was born the annual fall frolic, a tradition that has continued to this very day, a year later.

Well, as traditions go I admit it is a bit young. This year when Isseu contacted me back in August I was at first optimistic. By the end of September I had to admit to myself, and Iseeu, that the funds for a fall frolic were sorely lacking on my part.

No worries, came back the reply,

Iseeu decided to reroute himself through Berlin where we would carry on our tradition in the halls, and between the thighs, of the Artemis ladies. Hey it is not a three day NWR/Hessen trip but right about now I could have used anything, even a trip back to the hellfire of NeuKöln to abate and satisfy my loins.

It was agreed that Iseeu would arrive Monday and we would meet for a coffee. Iseeu then took my recommendation and booked himself a tantra massage at Kashima in Wilmersdorf. The result I will let him tell you all about if he so wishes, suffice to say he was very enthusiastic the next day. We then arranged to meet Tuesday late in the day for an evening at the Art. Also in attendance this time would be Artemis’ resident CDL magnet Charlie123 and Bearsk.

I timed my arrival for around 16:00 and was showered, sitting at the bar by 16:05. Not two minutes later Vivian was sitting down beside me and we agreed to find a sofa. Vivian (also know as Fatima) is one of my favorites and I have to admit to having hoped I would run into her early. As we sat on the couch at the far end of the main room the first words out of her mouth were that she had read what I had written “in the guest book” about her.

Angus froze.

Guest book? What did she mean?

I suspected, and this was soon confirmed, that by guest book she meant-internet….

What followed was a somewhat uncomfortable few minutes in which she expressed displeasure at having intimate details shared this way. Shamefaced, I did my best to apologize and assure her that no more such details would be shared. In truth she was not as upset as I was feeling guilty and somehow busted. However, upon probing a little more she told me the report she had read was about Fatima, her second name.

Elated and vindicated I could now assure her that the too detailed report had not been written by me. I know her as Vivian and was with 100% certainty able to say that any report written by me would have been of Vivian and would not have been too detailed. This seemed to put her into a better place, all was forgiven and off we went to the room. Details obviously under wraps but I will confirm Bearsk’s opinion that Vivian is a wonderful companion. The sex was good and we had all the requisite laughs and fun. Vivian, or Fatima, is currently at the top of my list of Artemis favorites. She is not the most glam girl there but she certainly tickles Old Angus’ bone.

Upon paying Vivian I then ran into Iseeu who had arrived. Frankly the details of the evening then become sketchy for me, at least to recount them now in chronological order which is just as well as that would no doubt be a very boring read. But the evening was a fun one with much discussion and dissection of the finer points of mongering. Along the way Charlie showed up and another monger (not yet an ISG member) who Angus steered towards a successful session with Connie (Bulgaria) yet failed (he did not ask) to keep from the clutches of Isabella (Moldova she says). Later in the evening I managed to find Bearsk in the downstairs bar and had a good chat with him.

A few general Artemis notes:

There is talk of the new outdoor facility both here and more so on the German forum. In fact in my talk with the owner this past September he was very proud to show me the scale model (sitting now in the entry way) and told me that the facility would be completed in December, an odd time I would say to complete an outdoor facility. At the moment though it would appear that the only completed part of the facility is the three meter privacy wall around the parking lot. As far as i could see there was not even any construction underway. I do wonder if they are having trouble getting permissions from the city. I will post any news as it develops but I think we can safely assume that December is not a reality at the moment.

Over on the Oase thread there has been much talk recently about cleanliness, specifically the rumor that towels are not always washed, only thrown in the dryer, between uses. Now I have do have my doubts about this with regard to Oase. My visit to Artemis had me squirming a bit as a result of reading the Oase thread. Especially as I dried my balls on a towel. Thinking about though, while I can not absolutely dispel rumors, I have to say that my feeling at Artemis at least is that the towels are washed and dried thoroughly. Whew.

While I often have trouble accurately judging the mood of a club as I feel it has so much to do with my mood, whether or not I enjoy myself, I found the Artemis mood a bit hard to handle on Tuesday. Thee is talk from the girls about too many girls working the room and not enough customers. Part of this is chalk up to an ever present dissatisfaction in this profession. That is, unless it is easy the girls tend to complain. That being said, there did seem to be a lot of girls at a loose end on Tuesday, not enough to keep them busy. This mood can work to the monger favor, but it takes vigilance and a bit of effort. I personally found myself reluctant or unwilling to really dive in and find the right girl. I do think though that it is right now a good time for a mid week Artemis visit. The angels are restless!

So the evening slipped away and I maybe spent way too much time on the couch talking with my esteemed colleagues. As I mentioned above though, I just did not seem to have the impetus to do otherwise. At one point I went off in search of Connie but we came to grief over my desire for maybe 5 minutes of conversation before we went to the room. My pride got in the way here and while she is a great girl in the room, I feel the girl could work on her “pre-zimmer” banter a wee bit. If it is working for her though, who am I to say this?

In the end, aware of the late hour and my need to work in the morning, I sat at the bar and caught the eye of a fetching lass of tender years (well, 25 it turned out) and with little ceremony escorted her up the stairs. Ella (not Russian Ella, I am not sure about this doubling up on names?) is from Bulgaria though seems to have lived most of her life in Germany. She did not rock my world but she was a good session. At least we got the job done, she is pleasant and has a sexy way about her. It is doubtful I would repeat but I had no regret.

With this final session I hit the shower and the late night bus home. As annual fall frolics go I have to report I was less than caught up in the excitement. It was, however, nice to visit. I am sure I will be back I am just not sure when.

Thanks for reading

AM

Angus Magee

11-21-10, 16:44

AM - help with her name again if you remember who I'm talking about.

That ended the night at Artemis - had all levels of service - bad, average and fantastic. Highlight was probably meeting up and getting to hang out with these guys in a completely random way.

Hi Pudendal,

Well I seem to remember recommending two. Shiva (short w/ dark hair) and Connie (tall w/dark blond hair in a funny cut). While I am not certain (hey I was not there;)) I seem to remember seeing you off to talk with Connie so I assume it was her you ended up with. Sound familiar?

As for the disaster-Isabella?

And nice to meet you to. Being recognized for my blog both tickled the ego and made me cringe a bit.

Thanks for the report

AM

Pudendal

11-21-10, 19:02

Hi Pudendal,

Well I seem to remember recommending two. Shiva (short w/ dark hair) and Connie (tall w/dark blond hair in a funny cut). While I am not certain (hey I was not there;)) I seem to remember seeing you off to talk with Connie so I assume it was her you ended up with. Sound familiar?

As for the disaster-Isabella?

AMRight on target - the really good session was Connie - and the disaster Isabella.

Devilspinkick

11-21-10, 22:05

The devil prays to no gods, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't pay his respects at the home of a few select dieties. I returned to the temple yet again and decided to workout for an hour first, then engage in some debauchery afterwards. While pumping iron, Neena came over and chatted with me for a few minutes. Had plans on maybe going with her again later. On my way to the showers I ran into Inka & the other cute little Thai lady I had been with a couple of years ago. Got cleaned up and made my way into the bar around 5P. For my last day in the temple I was looking for something unique of course. The aggresive German lady from Bremen was again trying to hook up with me. Sort of tempted but she had a bit

of a "sharky" vibe to her so I had to decline yet again. Found out that her name was Jenna. She seemed geniunely upset that I wouldn't go upstairs with her. Also got the hard sell from a couple of ladies, one from Hungary (dark hair; toned body; face of a grandma) & the other from Romania (decent lean body; short brown hair) - they were way too agressive for my taste so I told them maybe later (ie., never).

While hanging out in the main bar I was approached by a lady from the Czech Rep who's name was Sonoma or something to that effect. She was lean with tanned skin and seemed friendly so I figured it couldn't hurt to take her for a ride. She wanted me to take her friend as well but it seemed her friend was occupied at that moment. No worries. To cut to the chase .... I had a rather average experience with her. Nothing horrible but definitely nothing noteworthy. As always - YMMV. We did spend some time chatting about the USA and apparently she spent some to in London (hated the dreary weather there).

After resting for a while in the downstairs pool area I had to see what else there was to see. I plopped down on one of the beds surrounding the bar and took in the scene. More than a few ladies approached me but I gave them the standard "maybe later". One hot little blonde haired lady propped up against the rails only a few feet from me and was moving her body in a way that no living male could possibly miss. I certainly noticed her, but we never struck up a conversation so I eventually got up and roamed around some more. I came across a Brazilian dame from São Paulo and chatted a bit in Portuguese . Decent looking lady and I love Brazilians but since I visit Brazil a few times a year I don't usually worry about being with them when in Europe. There was another obvious Brazilian lady with bottle blonde hair but I never spoke with her. Talked for a few minutes with a very pale lady from Austria. Salzburg is where I think she said she was from. Told me I should learn to ski. Not sure why I would want to.

Fast forward through more periods of roaming about and viewing the scene from different locations and next thing I know I'm back on the same bed in the main bar. And within a few minutes the same hot little blonde comes up and starts humping the rail again. It was more than I could stand this time so I walk over to chat with her. She says that she is from Sofia, Bulgaria and her name is Sienna. She's a bit abrupt in her offer to go upstairs but since I'm getting a good vibe from her (not to mention turned on by her banging curves) I figure this would be too good to pass up. As we make our way to the stairs she stops and asks me if I want to do a threesome with her friend. She points to a tallish blonde lady with a pony tall.
"What's your friends name?"
"Victoria"
"Where is she from?"
"Bulgaria"
"Warum nicht; call her over."
So Victoria comes over and we head up. Since I've visited Bulgaria a few times I ask Victoria what city she's from. "Burgas", was the reply. We grabbed one of the larger rooms and start the festivities. They were admiring my bod & I was certainly enjoying theirs. Damn, two passionate blonds with plump boobs, apple asses & thin waists. It was one of those times I wish there was a camcorder recording in the background. 30 mintues wasn't enough so had to extend the session out to and hour. Gave them a bit extra on top of the fare and even handed out some little presents. It was great way to cap off the night.

Actually I would have liked to have gone another round. Too bad I wasn't able to track down Neena for a repeat. I decided to call it a night around 11PM because had an early morning train to catch and I wanted to get packed up and grab some sleep.

- DSK

Bearsk

11-22-10, 01:19

And within a few minutes the same hot little blonde comes up and starts humping the rail again. It was more than I could stand this time so I walk over to chat with her. She says that she is from Sofia, Bulgaria and her name is Sienna. She's a bit abrupt in her offer to go upstairs but since I'm getting a good vibe from her (not to mention turned on by her banging curves) I figure this would be too good to pass up. As we make our way to the stairs she stops and asks me if I want to do a threesome with her friend. She points to a tallish blonde lady with a pony tall.
"What's your friends name?"
"Victoria"
....Damn, two passionate blonds with plump boobs, apple asses & thin waists.

I witnessed you taking those two innocent girls upstairs, I was shocked.
You're some animal!

Bearsk

11-22-10, 04:50

Vivian (also know as Fatima) is one of my favorites and I have to admit to having hoped I would run into her early. As we sat on the couch at the far end of the main room the first words out of her mouth were that she had read what I had written “in the guest book” about her.

I suspected, and this was soon confirmed, that by guest book she meant-internet….

What followed was a somewhat uncomfortable few minutes in which she expressed displeasure at having intimate details shared this way. Shamefaced, I did my best to apologize and assure her that no more such details would be shared. In truth she was not as upset as I was feeling guilty and somehow busted.

This may have explained why Vivian was dressed in white blouse, tight skirt and glasses (schoolmistress uniform) and flourishing a birch cane upon my arrival.

I think Vivian, who is capable of considerable naughtiness and always fun, is a very private person. There are things we share in the course of redoubtable GFE that for a variety of reasons should not be posted.

Charlie 123

11-22-10, 13:26

This may have explained why Vivian was dressed in white blouse, tight skirt and glasses (schoolmistress uniform) and flourishing a birch cane upon my arrival.

I think Vivian, who is capable of considerable naughtiness and always fun, is a very private person. There are things we share in the course of redoubtable GFE that for a variety of reasons should not be posted.On the whole, I like to think that I am fairly respectful towards the girls. I would resist publishing anything from a girl's private life, especially if she had told me in confidence. I tend not to 'name and shame' if I have a bad outing with a girl, particularly as my first inclination after a poor session is generally (but not always) to ascribe poor chemistry as the cause of the disappointment rather than her bad attitude.

Having said all that, I think that we guys are entitled to share our expeiences and opinions with each other. You can be sure that the girls discuss the punters amongst themselves, and not always in the most charitable fashion. A good performer has nothing to worry about from her talents being advertised on these pages. I have sessioned many times with girls based purely on the recommendations I read on this forum - that's good business for them.

Many of the girls know that these forums exist and that their efforts in the room are likely to be reported and scrutinised on the internet. It's part of the price of being an SP in the modern age. I have no qualms about posting reviews on girls whom I've enjoyed and little sympathy for those ladies who feel that the process diminishes their dignity. Live by the sword.

Charlie

Angus Magee

11-22-10, 16:51

Live by the sword.

Die by the?

I agree Charlie.

And.

All I can say myself is that if I feel in myself the the need/desire to defend...

I have to also wonder why this defensive feeling is there. There must be some as yet uncovered part in myself that does not feel comfortable with what I do. Even if I do not really consciously know what that part is.

Where do I sit with this right now? I am not 100% sure and I certainly do not say that others should not review and name names. Crossing the line and using ones, actually quite minimal I feel, power as a web reviewer to slam a girl for perceived slights, is way off base IMHO. Certainly though the more balanced report, giving some but not all details of the session and the girls work name is okay. I just can not ignore the fact that when confronted I had no defense to offer. All I could say was-I did it. (The fact that the review she was referring to was not mine is irrelevant I feel. It could have been)

I do notice in me now a real reluctance to review the girls publicly, other than to say simply, it was a good session. I would repeat, not repeat. In a way I see that for me I would rather read an over all review of the club, the atmosphere and the feeling one gets when there. When it come to the girls, I'd rather just take my chances.

AM

Kimino

11-22-10, 17:11

On the whole, I like to think that I am fairly respectful towards the girls. I would resist publishing anything from a girl's private life, especially if she had told me in confidence. I tend not to 'name and shame' if I have a bad outing with a girl, particularly as my first inclination after a poor session is generally (but not always) to ascribe poor chemistry as the cause of the disappointment rather than her bad attitude.

Having said all that, I think that we guys are entitled to share our expeiences and opinions with each other. You can be sure that the girls discuss the punters amongst themselves, and not always in the most charitable fashion. A good performer has nothing to worry about from her talents being advertised on these pages. I have sessioned many times with girls based purely on the recommendations I read on this forum - that's good business for them.

Many of the girls know that these forums exist and that their efforts in the room are likely to be reported and scrutinised on the internet. It's part of the price of being an SP in the modern age. I have no qualms about posting reviews on girls whom I've enjoyed and little sympathy for those ladies who feel that the process diminishes their dignity. Live by the sword.

Charlie

Yep!

I think it's just a matter of how you do things, common sense and sensibility (or what the hell is the correct english word for that).

Personally I dont like vulgar, too detailed and especially autocelebrative (or simply stupid) reports. And I saw quite a few.

I find it useful to know the general feedback on how a girl acts and sessions. I don't care a lot if a girl came 5 times when she sessioned with someone (bwahahahahahah) but I am interested to know the general attitude, if she is upselling or not etc.

All the personal stuff IMO is useless. More than once I read reports on girls I did try and that where described in a very different way.
Girls act differently with different men, that's a fact, so either I know very well the person who is posting or some details have no value

For sure girls read this forum, I have no doubt.

"Live by the sword." I had to google for that, real nice saying!

Best

Devilspinkick

11-22-10, 20:37

I witnessed you taking those two innocent girls upstairs, I was shocked.
You're some animal!

Animal you say? Dammit! Were my horns showing?

Out of all the words I could think of to describe those two ladies, "innocent" wouldn't be one of them. Indeed - they were well trained in the sexual arts long before I got hold of them and I am thankful for it. Ever seen a inexperienced dame perform fellatio? It's downright pathetic. Nay! I prefer a lady or two that are experts in their field. Maybe I'll learn something.

Think I may have to return to Europa earlier than I had originally planned next year. It's hot times like that that keeps demons coming back for more.

"O tempora; o mores"
- DSK

Gargantua Paris

11-22-10, 23:16

Hello Guys,

I will be at Artemis next week from monday to wednesday night. I will be happy to meet some of you.

Cheers,

Gargantua

Travelman10

11-23-10, 00:00

Just a short report from my iPhone on my way back from Artemis.

Got there by 5ish, had a look around started reading my Umberto Eco book. Pretty soon approached by Mika? A German blonde with fairly big breats. Said we would hook up later since I just got there. A few more girls came by but nothing interesting. Around 6 Mika had been asking me again, few times so I said meet me by the stairs in 10, I needed to use the bathroom. When I came back I didn't see her and Sienna approched me instead. Since I was ready for a session I went with her. Blonde, nice tits and body. Good bbbj and excellent slow sex. CIM which she didn't push but I wanted it. Although I promised myself I wouldn't. Anyway, nice session.

Them, dinner, really nice today.

Found Mika afterwards and now I "had" to go with her. Good looks, but pretty boring session. Ok, but not more. Didn't really wanted me to be active which tend to get boring...

Then some football on tv. Few girls came by, but I declined. Then a Romanien girl sat down, pretty small, long black hair, small tits but I can't remember the name. Not my type but she was nice and cuddly. I wanted to watch the game so we said let's meet here in 45 mins which we did. She actually watched the last then mins with me. Then I almost felt like she deserved a session. Nice bbbj, very wet, nice fucking albeit not the best energy and again CIM. Bj was her thing I think.

Tired and with no money - Sbahn to the city.

Ps if you saw a guy with a white "bandage" on the head, that was me!

Cheers

Member #4243

11-23-10, 01:10

Please if anyone is interested there is now a full globe report in the Zurich thread, having come under fire for not reporting enough.

Thanks,

Mohab

Bearsk

11-23-10, 07:12

I do notice in me now a real reluctance to review the girls publicly, other than to say simply, it was a good session. I would repeat, not repeat. In a way I see that for me I would rather read an over all review of the club, the atmosphere and the feeling one gets when there. When it come to the girls, I'd rather just take my chances.

AM

And this from a man who offered to become the house BJ coach?

I think the girls feel a sense of the anonymous and so do we. Sometimes they are tantalised by the concept of exposure and fame while courting freedom from being identified and trapped.

I generally hold certain details: details about family, living arranements and holidays

Charlie 123

11-23-10, 13:37

Ever seen a inexperienced dame perform fellatio? It's downright pathetic. Nay! I prefer a lady or two that are experts in their field. Maybe I'll learn something.Did you really intend to suggest that you want the ladies to teach you how to perform expert fellatio?

Some male bi guys have told me that men give better blowjobs than women (and by the same token it is generally accepted that women are better pussy-eaters than men). So perhaps you should be pursuing your education in a male environment?

Charlie

Charlie 123

11-23-10, 14:11

I think the girls feel a sense of the anonymous and so do we. Sometimes they are tantalised by the concept of exposure and fame while courting freedom from being identified and trapped.I have spoken in the past to a few of the more experienced gals that I know at Artemis about this issue of online forums. I discovered a somewhat pragmatic attitude. They all know and accept that it exists. They are mildly concerned about exposure of their privacy, but they don't tell their real stories to punters that they don't know and trust to some degree anyhow. Mostly though, they see it as free advertising, and they welcome positive reports.

I truly believe that I am generally empathetic to the girls, but on this issue I don't have much time those precious types who effect deep sensibilities in this area. For 60 Euros they will suck and fuck a complete stranger 10 seconds after meeting him, and they'll often do it in public if he requires. How upsetting can it really be for a sexual description of the encounter to be circulated amongst like-minded people in an arena where she is identified only by a basic physical description and her (false) forename. Nobody's sending photos of her to her Dad for Christ's sake!!

I love the women at these clubs and I admire they way that they handle themselves in their challenging work environments. But women are women, they have sensibilities about many things, and they pretend to have sensibilities about even more things. All this fussing the FKK girls do about what we write about them is BS in my view.....their anonymity remains preserved and our scribblings constitute a very minor indignity compared to some of the stuff they have to/choose to do.

Nobody who reports in a sympathetic and honest manner here should allow themselves to be guilt-tripped by the girls into feeling that he has breached her trust or betrayed the intimacy they shared (Angus, I mean you pal).

That's my take on it anyhow.

Charlie

Mr Styles

11-23-10, 15:48

And this from a man who offered to become the house BJ coach?

I think the girls feel a sense of the anonymous and so do we. Sometimes they are tantalised by the concept of exposure and fame while courting freedom from being identified and trapped.

I generally hold certain details: details about family, living arranements and holidays

I agree..there is no need to talk about personal things that the girl discussed with you. However, I MUST stress that it is essential that we talk about how the girl is in the room. Of course there is chemistry involved, tut there are many girls, Lynn (Germany) and Lucia (Romania) at FKK Oase, Isabella (Moldova) at Artemis, who simply want to make you part with your money without doing a thing. For a lot of us 50 to 60 euros is a considerable amount, and I dont want to pay that out for 20 min of indifferent sex where the girl just lies down like a rubber doll. If the girl does not want to perform, then she should not be in a FKK in the first place. For those of us who are not regulars, or are first time visitors, reviews of the girls are extremely important. In that way, at least you dont spend 200 euros for indifferent sex.

Angus Magee

11-23-10, 20:23

Nobody who reports in a sympathetic and honest manner here should allow themselves to be guilt-tripped by the girls into feeling that he has breached her trust or betrayed the intimacy they shared (Angus, I mean you pal).

That's my take on it anyhow.

Charlie

LOL-thanks Charlie. Good take, Sometimes i think i am losing my edge and slipping into pussy whip territory....

AM

Toscana

11-24-10, 10:55

I have spoken in the past to a few of the more experienced gals that I know at Artemis about this issue of online forums. I discovered a somewhat pragmatic attitude. They all know and accept that it exists. They are mildly concerned about exposure of their privacy, but they don't tell their real stories to punters that they don't know and trust to some degree anyhow. Mostly though, they see it as free advertising, and they welcome positive reports.

I truly believe that I am generally empathetic to the girls, but on this issue I don't have much time those precious types who effect deep sensibilities in this area. For 60 Euros they will suck and fuck a complete stranger 10 seconds after meeting him, and they'll often do it in public if he requires. How upsetting can it really be for a sexual description of the encounter to be circulated amongst like-minded people in an arena where she is identified only by a basic physical description and her (false) forename. Nobody's sending photos of her to her Dad for Christ's sake!!

I love the women at these clubs and I admire they way that they handle themselves in their challenging work environments. But women are women, they have sensibilities about many things, and they pretend to have sensibilities about even more things. All this fussing the FKK girls do about what we write about them is BS in my view.....their anonymity remains preserved and our scribblings constitute a very minor indignity compared to some of the stuff they have to/choose to do.

Nobody who reports in a sympathetic and honest manner here should allow themselves to be guilt-tripped by the girls into feeling that he has breached her trust or betrayed the intimacy they shared (Angus, I mean you pal).

That's my take on it anyhow.

CharliePrecisely.

Bearsk

11-24-10, 16:40

Horns?!
Actually it looked like Victoria was leading you up the stairs, while Siena made sure you did not trip over and that your horn did not get injured. Not quite sure how she go a pillow under it while screening you modesty with towel but she IS a resourceful girl ....

Animal you say? Dammit! Were my horns showing?

Bearsk

11-24-10, 16:43

Women? Guilt trip?
They are women after all!
"Now Angus, you have been a very naught boy .... your penalty is an extra 15 minutes of pussy licking."
Read pussy whipping if you like!!

Nobody who reports in a sympathetic and honest manner here should allow themselves to be guilt-tripped by the girls into feeling that he has breached her trust or betrayed the intimacy they shared (

Angus Magee

11-24-10, 18:49

Women? Guilt trip?
They are women after all!
"Now Angus, you have been a very naught boy .... your penalty is an extra 15 minutes of pussy licking."
Read pussy whipping if you like!!

That is about it Bearsk. Especially with the lady in question. She always says after a good licking that she goes to sleep now. I am not sure she is joking....

Bearsk

11-25-10, 07:34

Not to give the game away, but I do consider it a victory if she heads home for a sleep after we are done ...
Me, I just lay at the bottom of the stairs in that bed area.

That is about it Bearsk. Especially with the lady in question. She always says after a good licking that she goes to sleep now. I am not sure she is joking....

Dr Jekyll

11-26-10, 00:51

Hi guys,

Just been to Artemis fkk for the first time, and this is also my first post here in the forums. Felt like I wanted to share a brief report with you.

Checked in at 10.30 one rainy Monday morning at a cheap hotel on Kaiserdamm. Dead tired after a very early flight so I had a late breakfast, slept for a few hours and then took a walk to Artemis, about one kilometre. Arrived at about 4 in the afternoon.

Not very crowded. I took some time exploring the place (smaller than I had imagined) and then sat down in the main lounge, smoked some cigarettes and watched the girls there. A few truly stunning, and I was very happy to note that the quality seemed to surpass my (quite high) expectations from reading forums like this. Fantastic! I was a bit nervous though and couldn't really relax, this being my first visit to a fkk and all. I have been visiting quite a few massage parlors (soapies) and brothels while travelling in South-East Asia, but this situation was new to me.

Was approached by a few girls and after a while I decided to get things started with a good looking Brazilian lady (alas, her name now escapes me). Anyway, we went upstairs to a room, kissed, sucked, licked and fucked... and it was ok. Great body, but she wasn't very in to it and her kisses were light (no sensual deep kissing the way I like). Still as I said, nice.

After this first session my nervousness and tension went away and I could relax and enjoy myself much more. I have to say that this place truly is amazing. I just walked around, spent time in the sauna and pool area, took a beer in the bar, and all the time these naked young ladies all around me! More girls arrived in the late afternoon and most of the time I got the impression that the girls outnumbered the men. Shaved pussies, perfect tits and asses wherever you looked (ok some not so perfect too, but that's fine with me). It felt like being inside the movie "Eyes Wide Shut", where Tom Cruise walks around in the secret society mansion you know... :)
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Had my eyes on a very sexy and slim blond girl with a pretty face and absolutely wonderful natural tits. I'm not so big myself (65 kg) so most of the time it's the small girls that get my attention. Anyway, got eye contact with her and she came over. Turns out her name is Marketa from Czech Republic. We talked and smoked for a while and then decided to go to one of the rooms down by the kino. No doors here, only curtains, and you could hear people fucking in the other rooms. Don't think the curtain closed properly either so I guess one could see us from the corridor, but I didn't care. We slowly got down to business, and this time it all felt much better. I just couldn't get enough of her wonderful body, kissing, licking and caressing. Her pink clean shaved pussy was so perfect, and tasted lovely too. After a little debate on what condom to use (I bring my own) we fucked slowly in various positions. Just love watching myself in the mirrors, running my cock into that smooth pussy. After a while I exploded and fell down on the bed beside her. I was very happy with the session. Not perfect (lacking some passion that true gf-feeling) but still very good.

Time for some food and then more chilling in the pool area. Later on, while having an espresso in one of the couches in the main lounge, I spotted a petite, beautiful girl with dark hair and super sexy a-cup boobs (just my type) standing by the bar talking to Marketa. I had noticed her earlier too, but now I felt strongly that I just had to get to know her. Gave her a smile when she after a while went passed me, and she got the message. Came over and introduced herself as Fatima from Slovakia (apparently she's also known as Vivian from what I've read in the forums afterwards). We had a nice chat and soon we were kissing and exploring each other. She slowly ran her hand down my belly, stroke my erection and whispered that she wanted some more privacy. Good idea I replied and off we went to find a room.

Jesus Christ, walking up the stairs behind her with that small perfect ass moving rhythmically right in front of my face was almost worth the €60 in itself! The sex that followed was absolutely heaven. Fatima had all of the passion that was kind of lacking with the previous two girls, and she really made me feel totally comfortable. After some foreplay she took her time to lick my nipples and balls, and then started giving me a slow blow job standing on all fours on the bed in front of me. Soon however I felt the urge to slip under her, placing my head between her thighs for a 69. We stayed in this position for quite a while and as I tasted her wet pussy she sucked me in a way I have seldom experienced. God Damn! Then she turned around and lowered herself onto my cock and started riding. Mmmm. My hands had a firm grip around her small ass and my head was spinning. Soon I had to ask her to slow down and she, being very responsive, immediately did (none of that trying-to-get-me-to-come-as-soon-as-possible attitude). She went on fucking and kissing me slooowly and sensually. Can't remember the exact sequence of events after that, but a few minutes and positions later I couldn't hold back any longer. Afterwards we just laid sweaty beside each other for a little while, hugging and kissing. Phew!

Right, seems this report is turning out not so brief after all. I won't bore you with all the details of my last couple of hours before I went back to the hotel (where I by the way had a nasty bedbug encounter), but let me just say a few words about my last session for the night: It was around midnight and I felt like trying the kino experience so I hooked up with Samira, a slim girl from Turkey who I had talked to earlier in the evening. We found our way to the back end sofa in the downstairs kino, and Samira sure didn't delay the action. We started making out and her big wet mouth was all over my face, and soon over my cock too. Noticed that we had a small audience which turned me on even more. This was a very intense porn-like experience, and soon she jumped on top of me for a reversed cowgirl, then turned around and continued riding like crazy. I thought that the fact that this was my fourth session for the day would affect the situation, but no no, Samira took no prisoners and I was about to come within just a couple of minutes. I thought what the hell, lifted her up still being inside her (easy with such a small girl), swung her around and finished in a frantic missionary right there in the kino. This girl was really a bit too intense for my taste, but make no mistake, she was still a perfectly worthy ending of this my first Artemis visit.

I chilled for another hour or so, then it was time to leave. One final cigarette in the main lounge (where one guy publicly had three girls on one of the circular beds) and then I reluctantly left...

Need I say that I'm very much looking forward to my next chance to visit this fantastic establishment! Peace.

Charlie 123

11-26-10, 02:03

Hi

A few weeks ago I proposed a survey of the big FKK clubs in which each establishment was rated in a number of categories as follows:-

Girls (appearance etc) (max 25 pts)
Selection of Girls (15)
Service (from girls) (25)
Food (8)
Facilities (10)
Cleanliness (8)
Staff (5)
Accessibility (4)

There was only a statistically meaningful response for 3 clubs, being the national ‘big 3’ of Artemis, Palace and Oase. 10 people responded for Artemis, 9 for Palace and 6 for Oase. Average scores awarded in each category were:

Artemis – 18.2 / 11.3 / 17.9 / 4.4 / 7.9 / 6.6 / 4.0 / 3.6 = 73.9
Palace - 19.1 / 11.6 / 14.7 / 5.3 / 7.2 / 6.7 / 3.1 / 3.6 = 71.2
Oase - 17.2 / 10.3 / 18.3 / 3.3 / 7.3 / 3.7 / 3.0 / 1.7 = 64.8

Surprisingly, Palace appears to be favourite both for the girls and the selection, but unsurprisingly perhaps it is less well regarded in the ‘service’ department. Cleanliness at Oase was an issue for almost everybody.

I expected Oase to be more popular – I thought that the quality of the ladies would compensate for deficiencies in the hygiene and accessibility departments, but apparently not.

The eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed and recalled from the small print that the results of a ‘Christmas raffle’ would accompany the publication of these figures. The prize was entry at my expense for one evening to the FKK club of his choice. I have conducted the draw and the winner is.

Rocketboy0

Well done! - I will pm you and we’ll arrange receipt of your free pass.

Thx to all who responded.

Charlie

Kimino

11-26-10, 19:34

Hi

A few weeks ago I proposed a survey of the big FKK clubs in which each establishment was rated in a number of categories as follows:-

Nice job Charlie!

I'l give my votes for Oase and Palace (and Mainhattan btw) after visiting them in Dec.

I was surprised by the results, thought Palace was less appreciated.

Ciao!!!

Bearsk

11-27-10, 04:50

Nice post.
Entree to Artemis with Marketa, Vivian and Samira - not such a bad start!!
Sorry about the bedbugs - ? Kronprinz Hotel

Dr Jekyll

11-27-10, 23:56

Nice post.

Entree to Artemis with Marketa, Vivian and Samira - not such a bad start!!
Sorry about the bedbugs - ? Kronprinz HotelThanks!

Hotel-Pension Gribnitz. Won't be going back there for sure.

Vitrea

11-28-10, 10:02

Hi guys,

Just been to Artemis fkk for the first time, and this is also my first post here in the forums. Felt like I wanted to share a brief report with you.

Had my eyes on a very sexy and slim blond girl with a pretty face and absolutely wonderful natural tits. I'm not so big myself (65 kg) so most of the time it's the small girls that get my attention. Anyway, got eye contact with her and she came over. Turns out her name is Marketa from Czech Republic. talked and smoked for a while and then decided to go to one of the rooms down by the kino. .........

........ introduced herself as Fatima from Slovakia (apparently she's also known as Vivian from what I've read in the forums afterwards).
......... Samira took no prisoners and I was about to come within just a couple of minutes. I thought what the hell, lifted her up still being inside her (easy with such a small girl), swung her around and finished in a frantic missionary right there in the kino. This girl was really a bit too intense for my taste, but make no mistake, she was still a perfectly worthy ending of this my first Artemis visit.

Need I say that I'm very much looking forward to my next chance to visit this fantastic establishment! Peace.

Nice report. Well written with good info. Keep up the good work.

Eurotikfuhrer

11-28-10, 12:29

Greetings fellow sex lovers.

I will be returning to Berlin once again during the "most wonderful time of the year" to unwrap a few gifts that provide more pleasure than any other gift could ever provide (unforunately only before and after Christmas as the club will be closed on the eve and birthday of j. C. The sin-less original 12-man gang-banger one who himself loved *****s like Mary Magdalene).

It's almost been a year since I've last been to this club, and I remember the old days in 2008 only a few months after it originally opened. The owner is a close friend of mine, and he mentioned that his plans to create a clone in Munich were stymied by the prude society of Bavaria which would have been a magnificent alternative indeed during the Oktoberfest season.

Nonetheless, he and his brother own the 2 best clubs in the world with Palace in Frankfurt being a very distant second to Artemis.

The purpose of my post is a pro-logue to a trip report.

I would appreciate any followers of this thread who either live, work, travel for work, or have an upcoming trip planned to Berlin, to post their in-office attandance confirmation of as many service providers as they can remember on this thread.

Finally our Turkish friend has decided to update his 1990's style website (however basic and rediculous the new mother-of-pearl intro is) with photos of all independent contractors shown here http://www.Fkk-artemis. De/en/girls.php.

I have a list of my favorite women from times past below and would appreciate if anyone could provide confimation of these girls and others who's performance is exceptional and outstanding.

Remember, the important detail is performance, so you need not list any women who may have an hourglass waist and hips with the most upstanding breasts of all respectable German citizens. Looks are great, but let's be honest. We can all find better looking girls in South America and performance is going to be the only reason that we enter her walls again.

So let's rally to confirm the current contractors in attendance.

Christmas is an exciting time to be in Berlin.

Supply will be high and demand will be low. A buyer's market

Clockwatchers and low-quality performers will return to their caves as the volume of clients have decreased due to the lack of free time during the holiday season.

Highly Skilled Migrants with love for their craft will remain and perform like champions with little choice over their new potential employers.

If you're going in December, list the names and descriptions of your top 10 performers and use this hyperlink to cross-reference names if you can remember. I always keep my blackberry in my robe pocket. http://www.Fkk-artemis. De/en/girls.php

As for my favs, I can confirm.

1. Without a doubt. Top performer I've ever had in Germany is Russian Ella. And there is NO competition.

2. Jamaican / German girl named Tyra. Not listed on the site but could have changed her name to Dara. Sounds close but still doesn't quite look like her.

3. Turkish girl named Maya. Most perfectly shaped hourglass figure with a desire and passion that would not quit. Only sampled her on one of my many visits. Never seen again.

None of the others are really outstanding, hence not worth mentioning.

Looking forward to the replies and if you'll be visiting around the birth of the original gang-banger, let's have a drink and toast to sex, women that love to have it, and the best feeling this life has to offer!

Live by the Pussy, Die by the pleasure.

- EurotikFuhrer

Kimino

11-28-10, 21:41

Angus Magee

11-28-10, 23:50

I would appreciate any followers of this thread who either live, work, travel for work, or have an upcoming trip planned to Berlin, to post their in-office attandance confirmation of as many service providers as they can remember on this thread.

Um...and why do we spend so much time here writing reports (with varying degrees of detail) and posting? Now we should rewrite our reports in accordance and anticipation of your arrival? The 4 post wonder kind of the Artemis FKK thread?

If ever there was a post to suggest it this is it. Read the thread man. What you request is exactly what everyone has been doing for the past 12 months since your past visit oh exulted one.

And, how to put this, dare I suggest that your name, with its' nod to Germany's greatest shame & embarrassment, might not endear you.

But good luck anyway in your endeavors.

Toscana

11-29-10, 11:26

It's almost been a year since I've last been to this club, and I remember the old days in 2008 only a few months after it originally opened. The owner is a close friend of mine...I don't think you know what you are talking about. The club opened in 2005. Take your agenda elsewhere please.

Ortos

11-29-10, 16:06

It's almost been a year since I've last been to this club, and I remember the old days in 2008 only a few months after it originally opened. The owner is a close friend of mine, and he mentioned that his plans to create a clone in Munich were stymied by the prude society of Bavaria which would have been a magnificent alternative indeed during the Oktoberfest season.

Nonetheless, he and his brother own the 2 best clubs in the world with Palace in Frankfurt being a very distant second to Artemis.

- EurotikFuhrer

Am I mistaken, but wasn't there a World Cup in Berlin in 2006? And wasn't Artemis open during this World Cup event?

The Owner IS a friend of yours? Don't you mean WAS? Did you speak to him recently? He died last year of a heart attack!

As for Palace: Maybe not second to Artemis, depending on who makes the judgement. But in any case, this is the first I've heard of there being any kind of ownership connection between the two...

Angus Magee

11-29-10, 16:14

The Owner IS a friend of yours? Don't you mean WAS? Did you speak to him recently? He died last year of a heart attack!

As for Palace: Maybe not second to Artemis, depending on who makes the judgement. But in any case, this is the first I've heard of there being any kind of ownership connection between the two...

Actually it was Ekki, the GM, that died late last January of a sudden heart attack. The owner is alive and well. I spoke to him in September. But you are right, there is no known connection between Palace & Artemis.Certainly it is not owned by the brother. I think EF talks out his ass.

The post actually strikes me as off somehow, as if someone is digging for info on the girls. IMO it is best ignored.

AM

Bearsk

11-29-10, 16:22

Noted, thanks

Thanks!

Hotel-Pension Gribnitz. Won't be going back there for sure.

Bearsk

11-29-10, 16:36

So EF, you really need to stay up to date.
Summary:
Mary Magdalene now runs the show and the club is for bisexual guys only.
You have some forum reading to do, about 108 pages.

Your old gals have gone.
But one tip, Tyra has changed her name to Naomi.
Good luck.

It's almost been a year since I've last been to this club, and I remember the old days in 2008 only a few months after it originally opened. The owner is a close friend of mine, and he mentioned that his plans to create a clone in Munich were stymied by the prude society of Bavaria which would have been a magnificent alternative indeed during the Oktoberfest season.

EurotikFuhrer

Norjan

11-29-10, 21:58

Nille Copenhagen

11-29-10, 23:12

Vitrea

11-29-10, 23:57

Guys, a quick question.

Do you use deoderant between sessions/shower?

On my visits I have done so but it seems to me most guys arrive to the club without a bag. Maybe you have deoderant etc. in your pockets?

Norjan

I use it and I don't have much of a body odor. I also use a light perfume. The girls do appreciate it. Most guys probably count on not having to sit around in between "sessions" to need a deodorant. :-) By the time they start smelling it is time for another shower.

London Traveller

11-30-10, 00:07

Guys, a quick question.

Do you use deoderant between sessions/shower?

On my visits I have done so but it seems to me most guys arrive to the club without a bag. Maybe you have deoderant etc. in your pockets?

NorjanI keep it in my locker. Also use my own shower gel (actually Lush Happy Hippy) which can wash hair too (saves on bottles) and smells very fresh. Girls seem to like it (they have commented positively).

Norjan

11-30-10, 18:36

I keep it in my locker. Also use my own shower gel (actually Lush Happy Hippy) which can wash hair too (saves on bottles) and smells very fresh. Girls seem to like it (they have commented positively).

Ok, that's how I've done too.

Just curious

Norjan

Member #4243

12-03-10, 04:12

I'm just interested to see what fellow members points of view might be on the following. I am at present trying to decide whether to book a fkk trip early March for artemis berlin(which I visited once back in summer 2008 and was fantastic)or a visit to cologne and dusseldorf to living room and fkk samya and when the cologne carnival is on. The pros for cologne include seeing a new part of germany and the carnival, the negatives however are that the clubs are smaller than artemis and girls not fully nude. For berlin the pros are large great club with naked girls, ie artemis, plus I know my way round quite well in berlin, the negatives are that I will not see new sightseeing sights plus slightly higher costs to cologne and dusseldorf clubs. How hard a life one has with such decisions, but on a serious point it is alot of money I will be spending flying in from england. Any advice about the above will help me decide.

For e fuhrer instead of just a blackberry which you carry, why don't we upgrade to commercially available walky talkies, exchange dates of attendance and radio frequencies here, and then we can update you in real time from inside the rooms when we are with the girls as to those worthy enough of your high standards, with the walky talkies, but remembering never to reveal the walky talkies in the main lounge ie to turn the devices off, hence achieving complete anonymity, so we will never ultimately know who you are, you will never know who we are, but you will still get the urgent real time info you need on the girls, and everyone is happy, talking reporting in fkk's to a new stealth code red level, oh just make sure the girls don't tell in the rooms which can be easily be done by a 100euro cim bribe and everyone is happy! A Merry Christmas to you all.

Mohab

Nille Copenhagen

12-03-10, 21:32

Dim Yann

12-04-10, 19:39

Are there any mature ladies (40-50s) working in Artemis and other FKKs or just young ladies?

Wicked Fire

12-04-10, 20:29

Are there any mature ladies (40-50s) working in Artemis and other FKKs or just young ladies?A few, but they all work morning shifts (11 - 8). Never seen them stick around in the evenings.

London Traveller

12-04-10, 21:01

Unfortunately nobody came forward from any of the three forums (including this one) which I posted notice of my visit on - so I was at Artemis all on my own today - although I did find some other guys to have brief chats with.

Things were very quiet in the morning. I arrived at 11 am and breakfasted. There were girls around but no talent that appealed to me. I was pleased when my favourite squeeze Nina (.cz) turned up at about 1 pm and beckoned her over for a chat. She told me that this (the beckoning gesture I used) was rude but we were soon getting cosy on the sofa. I trust her now and I discussed some personal difficulties that I was having, in response she gave me some good advice. Thanks a lot Nina! We eventually went to the Kino where her service was up to the usual high standard, with bbbj, kissing and sex all taking place on one of the sofas there. I was thinking of going for the whole hour as she had been so helpful when she was listening to me, but she stopped at the half and said we could continue in the afternoon, which was fine with me as well. Nina told me that she was the only Czech girl at Artemis at the moment.

The talent desert continued for me in to the later afternoon. I then chose a Columbian girl (name escapes me but I think it begins with M and she has fake boobs). She seemed friendly but when I asked her about whether she kissed - she said 'up to you', which wasn't entirely straightforward, however we went up to the room. In the room she refused kissing and when I said I wanted sex and bbbj she started going on about how I had to have CIM. She wouldn't shut up about this so I stood up and left at which she went ballistic - shouting at me in the room and down the corridor. She ended up telling me that she didn't want to kiss my 'stinky mouth' (I take tictacs and have good oral hygiene so this isn't true!). Other guys didn't seem to have as much problem with her as I did as she was fairly busy and one of them at least I saw looking pleased with her afterwards.

On a previous visit I had spotted an attractive willowy brunette (long straight hair down her back and pale skin) sitting virtually the whole afternoon at the bar and I had seen here there in the morning. I was a bit cautious as she didn't seem to be busy then so I hadn't chosen her (she never approached anyone but waited for men to go up to her) but this time I saw her returning from a room with a guy and they seemed to be getting on well, so I approached her. She turned out to be Magda, 23, from Latvia and she spoke a bit of English but generally was the quiet type. In the room we had a very good GFE session (1/2 hour) with all the trimmings. She seemed to prefer sex from behind and she told me afterwards that she preferred being fucked to having reverse oral - so we will do more of the former next time.

After a reasonable lamb and rice supper my final girl chose me as I was sitting down digesting. She was Tatiana, a 23 year old Romanian with a cute smile and a girfriend body with a good sunbed tan. She had a good sense of humour so we went off to the room. She needed a little encouragement to kiss deeply and refused to lick my balls, but her bbbj was adequate, if a bit toothy at times, and sex was very tight - also rather lively as she did a lot of moaning! We did a half hour. At the end I liked her a lot and I think we will get on even better next time.

I expect to return to Artemis tomorrow.

Kimino

12-04-10, 21:32

Are there any mature ladies (40-50s) working in Artemis and other FKKs or just young ladies?

Saw one in the forties, I thnk, not very good looking.

A few times at Artemis.

Ciao

Angus Magee

12-05-10, 09:32

I would say Kimino is right here. You might find during the day an older lady but I would say late thirties is about as old as you can expect. Well maybe early 40's but they will not admit it. And the night time line up does tend to be younger. But there are plenty of ladies who will admit to late 20's and in fact be in their thirties. I tend to avoid the age question unless I know the lady well.

If you really want milfs/gilfs (I assume this is grannys) you might want to explore the slightly seedier mid range Berlin bordellos as there are plenty out there. As this is the Artemis thread I will not get into it here but pose the question in the Berlin thread and I may be able to point you to a couple of possibilities.

AM

Charlie 123

12-05-10, 18:11

Traveller Uk

12-05-10, 18:59

Angus Magee

12-05-10, 19:58

In my brief experience of Artemis there have been a few MILF type ladies. One, Katerina, was a very busty brunette, Russian long term resident of Berlin. Great personality and great service, Sadly I only ever met her on one visit, not seen her since.

I have time on my hands between Christmas and into the early new year (first few days), is there any point in visiting Artemis? ie. will there be a reasonable number of ladies about. Any past experience?

Thanks

It is a quiet time but I have visited the past two years in a row and had a good time in this period. Less girls but the ones who are there seem to be very relaxed. Actually it is the best time for finding a good GFE type session.

Sadly I doubt I will be able to visit this year due to lack of funds.

AM

Norjan

12-05-10, 21:14

Are there any mature ladies (40-50s) working in Artemis and other FKKs or just young ladies?

WTF?

When there is young hotties strolling around, how come you want them to be old?

Norjan

Macca 74

12-05-10, 21:55

I rolled up to Paradise Westkreuz in the driving snow at about 2pm. If anything was going to warm me up, it was a few hours spent in Berlin's finest attraction.

After grabbing something to eat, I went to the downstairs lounge to read for a while before making my first move. Vivian was at the bar and she soon came over for a chat. She was very interested in my Kindle (not a euphemism, by the way). I was quick to point out that I couldn't access the internet with it, so I avoided any discussions of websites and guestbooks. I wasn't ready to session yet, but promised I would see her before I left.
I went on the search for her about 30 minutes later and she was perched in her usual place at the far end of the main bar. We went over to one of the sofas and chatted for a while before she suggested we retire to the kino. A man can't turn down an offer like that, so off we went for a great session. I asked Vivian if she minded fucking in the cinema and she replied that she absolutely loved it. After the deed we were both laughing at the cheesy 80s porn and Vivian mentioned that she's asked the office if they could possibly update the movies, but nothing doing yet. She's a great girl and a delicious fuck. Definitely my Artemis lady of the year.

I waited a while before my next move, but didn't choose wisely. At about 5pm there were very few ladies about. The early shift mostly seemed to be occupied and the later shift hadn't started coming on parade. I was approached by a slim, long haired blonde with implants outside the downstairs kino and I thought, why not? She was attractive on the eye and I had needs. Unfortunately, her English was bad and, shamefully, my German is even worse, so communication was poor. I think she was Hungarian and her name began with a B, but although she put in a good shift, there was not enough chemistry there for me. My fault, and it was a schoolboy error.

I thought that would be the end of my activity for the day as I had a meeting at 8pm and needed to head back to the city. I was sitting on one of the sofas in the downstairs bar when a petite slim blonde came over. Fair enough, I'm always up for a chat, but I considered that I was done. She introduced herself as Danielle from Austria and appeared to be about 25 years old. Anyway, we were talking for ages and she never once suggested going to the room. Numerous subjects were covered from famous Austrians (I couldn't come up with many, apart from the obvious one) to which nationalities she liked and disliked. Japanese were in favour, apparently. I asked if this was because of the rumour “small dick, come quick”, but she laughingly denied this.
After about 40 minutes talking, my will power diminished and I just had to go to the room with her. I had a really memorable session with Danielle and she even came and sat with me a little later when I was eating. Sweet!
What a fantastic girl. Great to chat to and a wicked sense of humour. The fact she was naked, apart from black stockings and high heels, surely proves there's a higher being out there somewhere.
Danielle also mentioned that a guy is writing a book about Artemis. Apparently, he goes to the room with the lady, buys a bottle of champagne, and just talks to the girl and writes. No physical contact at all. Does anyone know anything about this? Fleetingly, I thought it might have been AM, but having read his marvellous reports, it certainly doesn't sound like his modus operandi!

I think that's my last Artemis visit of the year. Six trips and all of them memorable. Roll on the New Year and, hopefully, more excursions to Berlin.