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Angus Magee
09-08-11, 09:06
. will EVERYBODY be welcome, including guests of a different colour, etc? Just wondering if you could give us your "official door policy."I was wondering the same thing myself. Let's see if GT as a forum member takes the opportunity to clarify the disturbing
Reports here. I really hope they do and if not, that in itself will tell me something.
AM
I was wondering the same thing myself. Let's see if GT as a forum member takes the opportunity to clarify the disturbing
Reports here. I really hope they do and if not, that in itself will tell me something.
AMYeah, it would be a real shame if GT only joined this forum to promote itself --kind of a misuse of the forum, maybe-- and does not take the opportunity to address these issues that are so disturbing. It would be nice to hear the truth behind their door policy "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak.
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Yeah, it would be a real shame if GT only joined this forum to promote itself --kind of a misuse of the forum, maybe-- and does not take the opportunity to address these issues that are so disturbing. It would be nice to hear the truth behind their door policy "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak.I wouldn't mind if FKK representatives participate our discussions, make some announcements and answer our questions here. Of course this should not be annoying. I am surprised why they still don't do that.
German Lisa has a new look. Now a brunette & gained some weight in a good way. Legs & ass a little fuller. Looks better as I thought her chicken legs were too skinny for her top heavy bod.I had another session with Lisa. Same killer body and restrictive service but the deep throat and the view of her add is doggy in the mirror while doing so is worth the price of admission. I was glad she showed up last Thursday, the talent level was so low daytime that I was contemplating priesthood. There was another prospect or two but they never once left their high chairs, checking out a girls ass is impossible when they spend the entire day sitting in one spot. Also went to the room with Kiki, a very attractive german girl with short hair. Great body but she tried to rush the service in the room.
Its been discussed here about the girls charging hessen prices at this club. 50/50, never ran into that problem since the lineup was one of the weakest I've seen so far this trip. Where are all the hot young girls that used to work here? Saw one or two at Aca to answer my own question. There had to be 60 girls but half that number had no reason to be in a fuck club. Heffer retirement city at one point. Only the night shift saved the day.
Vito Corleone
09-15-11, 17:11
I had another session with Lisa. Same killer body and restrictive service but the deep throat and the view of her add is doggy in the mirror while doing so is worth the price of admission. I was glad she showed up last Thursday, the talent level was so low daytime that I was contemplating priesthood. There was another prospect or two but they never once left their high chairs, checking out a girls ass is impossible when they spend the entire day sitting in one spot. Also went to the room with Kiki, a very attractive german girl with short hair. Great body but she tried to rush the service in the room.
Its been discussed here about the girls charging hessen prices at this club. 50/50, never ran into that problem since the lineup was one of the weakest I've seen so far this trip. Where are all the hot young girls that used to work here? Saw one or two at Aca to answer my own question. There had to be 60 girls but half that number had no reason to be in a fuck club. Heffer retirement city at one point. Only the night shift saved the day.As far as I know, Lisa has always been 1 hr 75 babe. Seems like most of the 1 hr 100 babes are gone. I thought the lineup was above average 2 weeks ago, but the weather was nice almost everyone was outside sun bathing.
Is Kiki the really tiny petite babe with bleached blonde hr? She was constantly busy the 5 times I visited. LR had a bunch of new babes.
Angus Magee
09-17-11, 14:45
Yeah, it would be a real shame if GT only joined this forum to promote itself.kind of a misuse of the forum, maybe- and does not take the opportunity to address these issues that are so disturbing. It would be nice to hear the truth behind their door policy "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak.
OWell it has been over a week and the GT representative has chosen to remain silent with regard the "issue".
I conclude that all they are interested in doing on the board is a type of marketing. I will therefore regard anything posted as one small step above spam.
AM
Well it has been over a week and the GT representative has chosen to remain silent with regard the "issue".
I conclude that all they are interested in doing on the board is a type of marketing. I will therefore regard anything posted as one small step above spam.
AMAbsolutely. Did you expect anything else, really? It's a bit insulting, I think. Very disrespectful in a way. Hey Woof Woof: You seem to be on good terms with the management, right? Maybe you could give us your views on this? Just curious.
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Absolutely. Did you expect anything else, really? It's a bit insulting, I think. Very disrespectful in a way. Hey Woof Woof: You seem to be on good terms with the management, right? Maybe you could give us your views on this? Just curious.
OThere's really not much for them to say. It is what it is.
There's really not much for them to say. It is what it is.That is the whole point, right? They have not yet said what it is. If it "is what it is" what is IT?
FunLovingOne
09-18-11, 11:08
have not been to gt since 2007. no big changes except dinner now served in the big tent. met up with london traveler. shared some stories then began probing the talent. i would say the talent has declined a bit in four years but not too dramatically.
had to dodge a certain romainian several times. pushed her away by telling her i was really partial to asian women, which are plantiful back in la although underground. if you ever view usasg you will see what i mean. cryptic posts designed to confuse uncle leo make for difficult girl searching. well after dinner the romainian introduces me to thai lulu. now most of you connoisseurs of nrw fkk women may not find lulu attractive. in fact, you might say she had been ridden hard and put away wet. but her dfk was brilliant so i decided to go for it. the only unfortunate part was the romainian was part of the package, not because her service was poor, in fact both she and lulu made a great tag team. she was just so aggressive (although friendly) then haggled over the price for an hour but i stuck to the pay schedule. her is a laser rating on them:
romainian first / lulu second.
l (looks) = 6, 6.
a (attitude) = 7, 9.
s (servce) = 8, 8.
e (expense) = nrw +50+25 hour each.
r repeat?) =no.
next up was thai juna, friend of lulu. juna is a very tiny girl with a very tight body, no tits at all but nice nipples. one thing about these thai girls is they really know how to put on a show. those of you who have been to thailand know this. she was also expert on the dfk. she was good at the boom boom lap dance too. as we sat i explained to her i was now too pooped to pop and that she would have to work very hard to make be cum again. she agreed to the challenge. now juna really likes daty. she got very wet cumming hard with the tummy convulsions you know are difficult to fake. when she hopped on cg she o's again as she leaned back holding my arms for support while trusting herself forward and back. she accomplished her goal of making me pop again.
l (looks) = 7.
a (attitude) = 9.
s (servce) = 9.
e (expense) = nrw +50+25 hr.
r repeat?) =yes.
will report on the previous days trip to lr soon. in short, good bbq, marginal line up.
finally, many thanks to lt for giving me a ride back to dussledorf. he is great guy. i enjoyed our chats about our hobby.
flo
Absolutely. Did you expect anything else, really? It's a bit insulting, I think. Very disrespectful in a way. Hey Woof Woof: You seem to be on good terms with the management, right? Maybe you could give us your views on this? Just curious.My views? Don't hold your breath waiting for GT management to respond to these posts. How many club owners or club managers engage posters on forums like these? None to my knowledge. It's also a fact that the majority of GT clientele are Dutch, French / Belgians, Germans with Americans and Brits far, far behind, even behind East Asians. This is reflected in the level of posting activity in the Dutch and French forums. Even allowing for the higher visibility of the French forum to GT mgmt, there have been reports there in the past of denied entry based on alleged skin color but that hasn't impacted GT business one iota. Does GT have a good image among its current clientele? Yes. Is business good? Yes, if population of white robes is any indication. Is there a compelling rationale for GT to change the way it runs its business? Well, I don't know that I have the answer to that one but GT does not lack for girls who want to work there and I see a well run operation with continued investments in the business.
So if I read correctly: If this forum was judged to generate enough clientele to GT, then they would answer? But we're still good enough for somebody in the GT management to join the forum for the purpose of blatent advertising?
Well, the main points are:
A) There has been a debate on this forum (irrespective of how many customers ISG generates for GT) about whether or not GT has a door policy based on colour of skin; some of us would prefer to give GT the benefit of the doubt, since we love the place and have no first-hand knowledge of the alleged discrimnation, BTW.
B) GT management joined the board to advertise an upcoming event.
C) One or two of us welcomed GT managment to the board and asked them to simply clarify their door policy, since most of us here give GT the benefit of the doubt.
D) Despite a friendly hand extended, GT managment declines to even comment.
What should one conclude?
So if I read correctly: If this forum was judged to generate enough clientele to GT, then they would answer? But we're still good enough for somebody in the GT management to join the forum for the purpose of blatent advertising?
A) There has been a debate on this forum (irrespective of how many customers ISG generates for GT) about whether or not GT has a door policy based on colour of skin; some of us would prefer to give GT the benefit of the doubt, since we love the place and have no first-hand knowledge of the alleged discrimnation, BTW.Actually, it's a little more complicated than just what their door policy is. I mean, I went there and had absolutely no problems at the door or anywhere else in the club with the staff for that matter. So have many others attested to the same thing. But, it is also very clear that they do hire a lot of racist girls there who absolutely do discriminate against the clientele based on color. I know that from firsthand experience.
Now, it gets down to what kind of club they want to be. You can't require an independent girl to go with anybody and everybody, and you shouldn't try to. But, you do have control over who you hire and what kinds of attitudes you're going to accept in your club. That said, it is a private club. And if they want to hire racist girls who don't make certain people feel welcome there, then so be it. I'll take my business elsewhere. And too bad too because it's only 50 Euros extra for a butt fuck! Hahaha!
At the same time, I can't sit back and say nothing any longer regarding their blatant violation of the rules of this forum. They clearly engaged in out right advertising within one of the regular threads on the site. It was an unmistakable violation, and for that I have reported the offender. It may not make any difference, but I chose to make my voice heard. Many of their "members" don't welcome certain things in their club. And many of the members here don't welcome certain things in our threads, like commercial advertising. And especially from a place that apparently has no issue with hiring and keeping on lots of racist tutes. BC warned me about this place.
So if I read correctly: If this forum was judged to generate enough clientele to GT, then they would answer? But we're still good enough for somebody in the GT management to join the forum for the purpose of blatent advertising?Incorrect interpretation. The point is GT mgmt is not known to engage posters in ANY forum even in those forums where there are plenty of posts from clientele.
What should one conclude?There is plenty of bulls*t posted on all forums and ISG is no exception. Club does not run its business based on what is posted on forums. It gets its feedback from real clients in real time when they leave the club.
P. S. You guys are over-intellectualizing this thing. An Fkk is not a laboratory to debate sociological issues. Fkking is about fun and girls. If GT does not respond to your posts, no need to take it personally or so seriously. Take your business elsewhere. Plenty of choices out there.
Incorrect interpretation. The point is GT mgmt is not known to engage posters in ANY forum even in those forums where there are plenty of posts from clientele.
There is plenty of bulls*t posted on all forums and ISG is no exception. Club does not run its business based on what is posted on forums. It gets its feedback from real clients in real time when they leave the club.
P. S. You guys are over-intellectualizing this thing. An Fkk is not a laboratory to debate sociological issues. Fkking is about fun and girls. If GT does not respond to your posts, no need to take it personally or so seriously. Take your business elsewhere. Plenty of choices out there.Thanks for clearing up what was not clear. I think.
However, nobody (at least, not me) is taking it too personally or "over-intellectualizing" this issue. I do not obsess about it, and in fact it hardly concerns me personally, since I look (from the outside) like a passable German and I have never had even the slightest problem getting in the door. Perhaps you, our dear WW, are looking at it too intellectually? :)
However, the main point (for me) is: It seems GT joined this forum simply and only to advertise an event, and never has / had any intention to engage in conversation about any issue in any form. Simple advertising, that is all.
Some of us were not sure of this when they posted that first post a couple of weeks ago, so we (or I) thought innocently: Well, if they joined the forum (as a normal member would) why not just post a paragraph about the door policy to clear up what is a hot issue here and quite possibly an issue of misunderstanding amongst the wider board community.
So, if anything, some of us are guilty of being to innocent-minded, perhaps, in thinking that GT joined the forum in an appropriate manner, that is, not just to advertise their club.
O
If it "is what it is" what is IT?That it's a private club and they will choose who they want in. As to their not responding, either they haven't checked back with the intent to answer customer concerns or they perhaps would rather not admit they exercise certain policies. They might be estimating that the would-be guests on this forum are not substantial enough for them to reconsider their position.
That it's a private club and they will choose who they want in. As to their not responding, either they haven't checked back with the intent to answer customer concerns or they perhaps would rather not admit they exercise certain policies. They might be estimating that the would-be guests on this forum are not substantial enough for them to reconsider their position.Surely our reporters have signalled on a number of visits that the door policy at this club is to exclude certain visitors largely on the basis of race.
While distasteful to many members, a club may set their own rules within that allowed by law. This may be the case here.
For what it is worth, personally, I will not patronize this club because of the door policy. The Club may not care if I and other like-minded members do so.
That is frankly of no real interest to me. What I care about is my same thinking concerning girls who are rude or obnoxious or provide much below a good standard in service particularly when combined with the rude and obnoxious. My approach will be to simply not provide my bodily fluids or Euro notes to these girls and to clubs such as this. That is my perogative as it is theirs to follow their own paths.
My loss? I seriously doubt it, and in any event there are so many other venues and ladies who are more deserving of Excess` fluids and orange and green notes.
Hit them. In their wallets where it hurts most directly and the most.
ISG and our intrepid reporters do well and a service in pointing out such activities in their posts. For those members who might be subjected to such a door policy, it provides advanced warning to re-schedule their trip plans and so limit their financial damage and lost couch time. Members can make and do what they wish with the information and act upon it or not.
It is, as mentioned, very disappointing to have a "member" arrive in order to simply self-promote and not appear willing to engage in an open discussion on things that other members find where improvement might be made or policies that concern some of them at least. That "member" is clearly missing an opportunity to engage with a number of their customers in a constructive and positive manner.
E.
Customer interaction would seem to be a good thing, and GT management might profit from doing so. But if you want to see what happens when the service provider really answers other members' posts, then check out the LMP page in the UK forum. Emma takes the time and answers, and her attitude is just great. Most guys on the board really like and respect this. But here and there a jerk shows up and just dishes insults. On how the girls look. On how the service is. On how overrated LMP is. On whatever. For sure some of this stuff must be getting under Emma's skin, but she tries to remain polite. Perhaps GT is not willing to be as patient.
Otinmalaki
09-30-11, 08:38
I must say that Golden Time stops mediterranean and eastern european men from coming in and in comparison to others who don't.
Its a relief.
These guys just act as if they own the place, disrespect staff and girls and claim the seats as if they are stockholders.
Great choice Golden Time!
Otinmalaki
09-30-11, 08:41
Is it a "non-white" issue. Or just a non-German issue?No, its a western european vs non-western european issue.
Or: its a "behave and enjoy" vs "disrespect" matter. As simple as that
I have been 10 times in gt.
I am spanish and look like turkish never have aproblem to get in.
By the way I will be there 7 and 8 Oct. Will be nice to meet any ISGer.
Some news about GT? Nothing? Line up?
London Traveller
10-15-11, 09:36
The club was fairly quiet in the day but at night it was really heaving and the lockers ran out. The wait for rooms went up to about 20 minutes. One thing I hadn't seen before was three girls giving a live sex show in the main lounge. They climbed onto the cupboard where the breakfast is usually served and also got a friendly guy to join in a bit. Spraying him with canned cream left over from teatime. I saw four girls but my two new ones were both disappointments. Samantha, a 19 year old Ukrainian, with shaggy dark hair and a big fake D cup rack (I only realised it was fake after she took her bra off in the room) was an uninspiring fuck. Although she kissed a little, she didn't like her silicone boobs being touched and couldn't take weight on them, which precluded certain positions. Even worse, the boobs themselves had begun to develop ugly creases below the nipples, making them look a bit deformed. On the Dutch forum it is reported that she used to be an A cup, and the skin is really stretched to accommodate the huge implants, which are very hard. She moaned during sex but this must have been fake as she dried up and required a lot of lube from a huge can of the stuff that she had with her. At 30 minutes she just said that time was up, tried to insist that I came (but gave me no help) and refused to continue any longer. Even worse was Alise, a curvy brunette 22 year old Serbian, with an attractive smile that she uses to lure men into the room. She promised much during the 20 minute wait we had to go there. Telling me that she didn't like quickie sex and would provide the full GFE, including kissing. In the room it turned out completely the opposite. She didn't like her magnificent breasts being touched or kissed and the kissing that she had promised really was just a few brushes of the lips. Her BBBJ consisted of a few sucks of the head followed by vigorous unlubricated tugging of the cock. I had to ask her to stop several times as things were getting painful and I was concerned that she might cause some damage. In sex, she kept her legs tensed up in missionary, preventing full penetration, which she said that she didn't like, we moved to doggy but this didn't last long and after 15 minutes in the room she said that time was almost up and I should come, preferably in her mouth. Although I'm not sure how she intended to achieve this. Other options included pulling myself off and her on top, but she was so bossy at this point that I called it a day and we left. I noticed that her next victim also only stayed in the room 15 minutes and looked unhappy when he emerged. The day was saved by two old flames who I spent better times with.
TOne thing I hadn't seen before was three girls giving a live sex show in the main lounge. They climbed onto the cupboard where the breakfast is usually served and also got a friendly guy to join in a bit. Spraying him with canned cream left over from teatime.Was it spontaneous show, or GT now handles parties Fri and Sat nights like Samya or VV?
London Traveller
10-15-11, 23:44
Was it spontaneous show, or GT now handles parties Fri and Sat nights like Samya or VV?It seemed to me to be a spontaneous show by some girls in the mood for a bit of exhibitionism.
London Traveller
10-16-11, 23:09
The line up was really poor. So much so that some experienced French-speaking punters left the club to go elsewhere. Probably Villa Vertigo.
I stayed and was resigned to not doing anything much when an old flame turned up. I booked her for a date after dinner and spent the evening in great style!
A great looking girl arrived later in the evening. A slim, young, beautiful (10) pert blonde (perhaps Russian) whose name is Emily. She seemed to be booked by the same guy who she had been with the night before (Friday) and spent all her time with him (at least until I left the club). Anyone know her?
London Traveller
10-17-11, 08:48
Can anyone state definitively what the official rate per half hour for longer sessions at this club is?
Is it 50 + 25 + 50 + 25 + 50 + 25 etc.
Or 50 + 25 + 25 + 25 + 25 + 25 etc?
Nille Copenhagen
10-17-11, 12:31
Can anyone state definitively what the official rate per half hour for longer sessions at this club is?
Is it 50 + 25 + 50 + 25 + 50 + 25 etc.
Or 50 + 25 + 25 + 25 + 25 + 25 etc?Hey LT,
I used to pay 50 + 25 + 25 with my favourites. I know you like longer seesions, if you stay more then 2h try to get a fix deal.
Some will try to get away with 50+50+50, but should it be 50 + 25 + 25.
At Samya it is 50 + 25 + 50 + 25.
Nille
Nille Copenhagen
10-28-11, 14:57
Just had a nice session 1h with a blond Polish girl, the line up is not so strong yet, but hope it improves later, anyone is coming to night.
Michelangelo
10-28-11, 17:33
Just had a nice session 1h with a blond Polish girl, the line up is not so strong yet, but hope it improves later, anyone is coming to night.Am planning to visit GT on Sunday.
Any Thai or other Asian girls around?
A cute Chinese girl from Shanghai. Not sure of her name.
Am planning to visit GT on Sunday.
Any Thai or other Asian girls around?
wow. was anybody there to witness the array of talent on those 2 days. probably not because there were more girls than bears. several new stunners caught my eye.
1) [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) tanned dark flowing hair (de. half italian & german. 9/10 for looks & service. 100 ph girl). spent 1 hour with her.
2) ellana (or eleana). blonde and german (9. 5/10 for looks & service) damage = 300 euros for a loooooooooong session.
3) joy. blonde & polish and 9/10 for looks & service (usual good service. 30 mins 50 euros)
4) kim. de, short blonde hair (did not session)
5) nelly. russian (8/10 for looks & service) damage = 400 euros for a loooooooooong session.
6) emily. czech, long blonde hair (did not session, because i was friendly with her new friend elleana)
7) simina (semina). russian, blonde & long flowing 9/10 for looks (couldn't session due to 4 hour session with eleana)
8) sandy. de, with long brunette hair (9/10 for looks & service) 100 damage.
of course, there were the usual regulars:
1) hiedi. czech
2) jenni. de.
3) kira. de
Nille Copenhagen
10-29-11, 10:41
Am planning to visit GT on Sunday.
Any Thai or other Asian girls around?Today Party at ACA,
I'm at VV at Sunday,
Maggie is Chinese and Saweana is Thai,
Yesterday the line up was good in the evening, but as always many bears too, so at some point it was sea of bears.
I had 5 nice session with Jena, Angela, Ceci, Seweana, Anastacia. All girls provide great service, some of them I know already and reunion is always nice.
Not so many RO this time, only a handfull, there was on the other hand many German girls.
I meet 2 guy from US, said they know Jackson, nice.
Next up is Halloween party at ACA.
Charlie 123
11-03-11, 01:37
Hi.
Visited yesterday with a friend en route to a Champions League game. Opening time was 1pm on account of 'Feiertag'. My second visit here. Again I found it to be a really well-run club with a nice atmosphere. The line-up was terrific right from opening time. There were a couple of stunners, but mostly I was impressed by the quality in depth of the line-up. Looks-wise, I would have been happy to have gone with 80%+ of the girls.
As it was, there was time for two. First up was a pretty young local girl from Dusseldorf (she says) , 'Leonie' or similar name, medium build, auburn hair, shapely, maybe 23 years old? A nice solid session without any particular fireworks or chemistry. Wouldn't repeat; happy to have had the session with her and good value for 50E.
Second session was superb. Chantal from the Dominican Republic, dark-skinned with ludicrous beached blond hair. Very slutty-looking. Pretty girl, friendly and intelligent, sexy slim body. Top-rate session, fabulous BBBJ, great fuck in assorted positions, DATY. Two pops in a two hour session that I would have loved to continue, but kick-off time for the match was approaching. Anal offered but declined. Terrific girl. Typical sexy Latina. Slightly expensive by house standards. She had asked for 50E for every half-hour even before we started, rather than the 50+25+25 structure that I understood to be house policy, so the price was 200E. However she promised me a cracking session and delivered completely. Highly recommended.
Charlie
Agree with Charlie boy on this one. My visits to GT from now will always be early in the week.
After Monday (M) and Tuesday (T) for the best line-up.
Then the week says: WTF! For the weakest line-up.
Hi.
Visited yesterday with a friend en route to a Champions League game. Opening time was 1pm on account of 'Feiertag'. My second visit here. Again I found it to be a really well-run club with a nice atmosphere. The line-up was terrific right from opening time. There were a couple of stunners, but mostly I was impressed by the quality in depth of the line-up. Looks-wise, I would have been happy to have gone with 80%+ of the girls.
As it was, there was time for two. First up was a pretty young local girl from Dusseldorf (she says) , 'Leonie' or similar name, medium build, auburn hair, shapely, maybe 23 years old? A nice solid session without any particular fireworks or chemistry. Wouldn't repeat; happy to have had the session with her and good value for 50E.
Second session was superb. Chantal from the Dominican Republic, dark-skinned with ludicrous beached blond hair. Very slutty-looking. Pretty girl, friendly and intelligent, sexy slim body. Top-rate session, fabulous BBBJ, great fuck in assorted positions, DATY. Two pops in a two hour session that I would have loved to continue, but kick-off time for the match was approaching. Anal offered but declined. Terrific girl. Typical sexy Latina. Slightly expensive by house standards. She had asked for 50E for every half-hour even before we started, rather than the 50+25+25 structure that I understood to be house policy, so the price was 200E. However she promised me a cracking session and delivered completely. Highly recommended.
Charlie
Nille Copenhagen
11-03-11, 13:51
Second session was superb. Chantal from the Dominican Republic, dark-skinned with ludicrous beached blond hair. Very slutty-looking. Pretty girl, friendly and intelligent, sexy slim body. Top-rate session, fabulous BBBJ, great fuck in assorted positions, DATY. Two pops in a two hour session that I would have loved to continue, but kick-off time for the match was approaching. Anal offered but declined. Terrific girl. Typical sexy Latina. Slightly expensive by house standards. She had asked for 50E for every half-hour even before we started, rather than the 50+25+25 structure that I understood to be house policy, so the price was 200E. However she promised me a cracking session and delivered completely. Highly recommended.
CharlieCharlie, should be cleaver to negotiate a better price if you have longer sessions, you should not accept 50+50+50+50, then suddenly all the GT girls charge this price. I'm pretty sure I can get her down to 75 / H.
Charlie 123
11-04-11, 21:14
Charlie, should be cleaver to negotiate a better price if you have longer sessions, you should not accept 50+50+50+50, then suddenly all the GT girls charge this price. I'm pretty sure I can get her down to 75 / H.I understand your point.
However, in reality, I was in the room with her and she looked delicious. I could have said 'no' and cancelled the session, but I didn't want to. I would certainly never have negotiated her down and then proceeded with the session. That's no recipe for the sort of full-blown GFE / PSE that I'm always looking for. She offered a full service at the increased rate of 100 / hour, and delivered spectacularly. FWIW, she 'threw in' one CoF finish. There was a tacit unspoken assumption that it was part of the VIP programme I'd paid for.
And remember, I hadn't really committed myself to anything. If she'd been useless I would've just quit after 30 minutes at no penalty.
Whereas I appreciate your concerns as to preserving value for all us mongers, I do dislike getting into these critiques about payment policy. I had a run-in with some of the lads on the FKK World forum a while back about 'inappropriate' tipping, and I'm not going to get involved with you and others about whether any guest has the right to negotiate a non-minimum rate should the circumstances appear conducive. Quite simply, I am happy to let the free market dictate pricing structures in the German FKK economy and I'm not interested in being lectured to about the virtues of Collective Bargaining by any more self-appointed spokesmen for the European Union of Mongers. I don't know about you, but I firmly believe that I very often get absolutely fabulous value for money in my FKK experiences. Do what you like, negotiate as hard as you please and in the meantime I shall continue to conduct myself in my present fashion.
BTW, I never get any of this shit on the Berlin board, only when I pop over here to the West. Next time (if) I post here again, I'll just skip the financial details to avoid antagonising anybody.
Gruessen.
Charlie
Nille Copenhagen
11-05-11, 00:22
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, don't be upset, it's not personally.
Welcome to the wild west NRW, we are more cost aware here.
Not because we don't have the money, but the price structure is diff. From Berlin and Hessen and we want to keep it this way.
I've talked to Chantal (Dark, Slim, Fake D-cup,
Tattoos on stomach and back-two small wings) Is this the same Chantal?
I'm sure you had a great time with Chantal and you gladly paid her, Ok you got a sort of rebate with a free CoF.
I do understand you situation with Chantal at GT, you had your dick in her cookie jar and that was not the best moment
To negociate, LOL. So you are excused.
Normally I don't negotiate at all, I'm just honest with the girls, telling them I'm not a newbie
And I know the price structure and I also tell them I prefer longer sessions, a bit use of charm wouldn't hurt.
Why do you think I can get away with spending 3, 5H with a gorgeous girl last weekend
And only paid 150.
I red AM's blog and you were one of the Mongers he admired.
Based on that I consider you as an experience Monger.
But clearly you have only visit GT a few times.
Why to you think she charge you 100/H and some guys 75/H.
Why do you think there are house prices.
Why don't you accept the A-option it's only fifty extra. Or did she quote a higher price.
Some guests would even go as far as reporting the 100/H girls to the management as the management
Are not interesting in that the girls intentionality raise the house prices and chase away the customers.
The customers would migrate to other clubs in NRW like for example ACA with very nice price structure.
At Samya the hour price is strictly 75 / h, no girls dare to charge higher as they will be kick out.
You probably know the inflation of service level at FKK Palace, why because too many guest accept the girls terms,
Like paying extra for kissing so on.
When all this is said, I do read your posts and enjoy them, I hope you don't have too hard feeling about this,
Our paths might cross someday, I do travel to Berlin and Artemis sometimes, but I prefer NRW.
That is my 2 eurocents.
Happy mongering.
Tschόs.
I understand your point.
However, in reality, I was in the room with her and she looked delicious. I could have said 'no' and cancelled the session, but I didn't want to. I would certainly never have negotiated her down and then proceeded with the session. That's no recipe for the sort of full-blown GFE / PSE that I'm always looking for. She offered a full service at the increased rate of 100 / hour, and delivered spectacularly. FWIW, she 'threw in' one CoF finish. There was a tacit unspoken assumption that it was part of the VIP programme I'd paid for.
And remember, I hadn't really committed myself to anything. If she'd been useless I would've just quit after 30 minutes at no penalty.
Whereas I appreciate your concerns as to preserving value for all us mongers, I do dislike getting into these critiques about payment policy. I had a run-in with some of the lads on the FKK World forum a while back about 'inappropriate' tipping, and I'm not going to get involved with you and others about whether any guest has the right to negotiate a non-minimum rate should the circumstances appear conducive. Quite simply, I am happy to let the free market dictate pricing structures in the German FKK economy and I'm not interested in being lectured to about the virtues of Collective Bargaining by any more self-appointed spokesmen for the European Union of Mongers. I don't know about you, but I firmly believe that I very often get absolutely fabulous value for money in my FKK experiences. Do what you like, negotiate as hard as you please and in the meantime I shall continue to conduct myself in my present fashion.
BTW, I never get any of this shit on the Berlin board, only when I pop over here to the West. Next time (if) I post here again, I'll just skip the financial details to avoid antagonising anybody.
Gruessen.
Charlie
Charlie 123
11-05-11, 17:13
I've talked to Chantal (Dark, Slim, Fake D-cup, tattoos on stomach and back-two small wings) Is this the same Chantal?I think so. She has dark skin, but bright yellow dyed hair. Fake tits, slim, comes from Domincan Republic. Very highly recommended.
No hard feelings. Delighted to meet up at Artemis next time you are there.
Charlie
Member #4626
11-06-11, 00:25
Was at the GT on Tuesday 18 okt.
I'm caucasian and there was no problem for me getting in.
Don't know if the discriminating policy is only applied if there are too many guys in the house or only in weekends or is it only rumors.
I was ready to go to Planet Happy Garden if was refused entry at the door, but wanted to check if the rumors was true.
Later at night I saw also an indian guy, some asian guy and two other caucasian guys.
Like Simex wrote, there were many girls, but I would disagree with the number of guys. I think there were as many guys as was girls. There were nearly no place to sit.
The girls I seasoned with:
1. Nelly from Spain. Very beautiful face, tight body and big boobs. In the room she told me that she has made her breasts for about 3 months ago and I should not touch them.
As she removed her bra, I could see a very nasty scar on both breasts and was looking very bad (maybe infected?). Even if she asked me to touch her breasts, I wouldn't.
She is the kind of the girls that promises everything before you go to the room and when you are at the room she turns to a completely different person. Before the room she smiled and we laughed, she promised DFK, but in the room there was no smile, very light lip-kissing to 2 seconds and she wanted to get it over as soon as possible.
2. Forgotten her name from Brazil. Beautiful face, not slim but neither fat, a GFE season with DFK.
3. Sandra from Indonesia. Also a GFE season.
4. Juliet from Russia. OK season but nothing special to write about.
3. Sandra from Indonesia. Also a GFE season.Sandra is from Indonesia now? Actually, I think she is ethnically Indian, but obviously grew up in Belgium (from her accent).
Nice report. Thanks for providing the names and spot-on comments about the girls performance, good and bad. The first girl, Nelly from Spain: Sounds like a Romanian, no? BTW: You're description of her behaviour makes me wonder if you might not have been within your rights to have walked out of the room right at the start without any obligation. I mean, did he tell you about the "no-touch-tits" thing BEFORE you comitted to a season ---ooops, I mean session--- with her? If a girl suddenly lays that line on me when we are undressing in the room, it's usually a red flag for me; so I tell her, forget the whole thing, baby. Next time tell me this before you get the key.
Also, maybe this is an individual point of style, but when a girl promises DFK outside the room, a good technique to secure it is to ask for a small sample before you get the room. "Oh, I'd rather not DFK in public," she says?" OK, let's step into the Kino for a minute or two and you can demonstrate your technique," is a good counter to this. I do this myself, because usually I'm intensely interested in DFK with a good looking girl, and I tell the girl if it's good and passionate DFK I might well extend to 1 hr. Thus it's to her benefit to do it well and not hold back.
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Member #4626
11-09-11, 11:43
Sandra is from Indonesia now? Actually, I think she is ethnically Indian, but obviously grew up in Belgium (from her accent).Indonesian and Indian girls looks very similar, so maybe she is from India, but she told me that she is from Indonesia.
Nice report. Thanks for providing the names and spot-on comments about the girls performance, good and bad. The first girl, Nelly from Spain: Sounds like a Romanian, no? BTW: You're description of her behaviour makes me wonder if you might not have been within your rights to have walked out of the room right at the start without any obligation. I mean, did he tell you about the "no-touch-tits" thing BEFORE you comitted to a season ---ooops, I mean session--- with her? If a girl suddenly lays that line on me when we are undressing in the room, it's usually a red flag for me; so I tell her, forget the whole thing, baby. Next time tell me this before you get the key.Maybe I should have backed out, but on the other hand she was pretty with beautiful face, so I hoped for better performance and went on with the SESSION. Clearly a mistake, but one I learned from.
December 12 Christmas party in GT.
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Did anybody meet Londonbasket these last months?
How is he going (no posts anymore for a while!)?
Vito Corleone
11-26-11, 12:23
Did anybody meet Londonbasket these last months?
How is he going (no posts anymore for a while!)?NO, but I ran into Mark Thomas 2 weeks ago. He's still into pegging!
Vito Corleone
11-26-11, 17:55
Romy Romina & German Shayen were available@GT 2 weeks ago. Palace must be really slow for her. Romina was looking good strutting around topless.
NO, but I ran into Mark Thomas 2 weeks ago. He's still into pegging!Thanks Godfather!
And how about Clemenza and Tessio? (just kidding, of course!)
Vito Corleone
11-28-11, 15:05
Thanks Godfather!
And how about Clemenza and Tessio? (just kidding, of course!) Tessio is sleeping with the fishes with Barzini, Tataglia, Cuneo & Moe Green!
I decided to pay a short visit to GT while traveling yesterday (Monday) afternoon. I arrived at about 1PM, paid the entry and hit the changing room. Is it just me or does anyone else think that the receptionist is hot? Had a beer and made a sandwich from what passes for a sandwich bar. Could it be located at a more inconvenient location? Climbing over guys sitting at the bar to get bread is a bit annoying, but I digress from the point of this report. As could probably be expected for a Monday afternoon, not a lot was happening. Guys in robes sitting at the bar having beverages and the girls sitting in a row on the stools smoking like chimneys and waiting for someone to tell them to get a key. Of the ladies only one really caught my eye. She was a slim brunette with a short cut, pixie style hairdo and nearly perfect natural breasts. For me she was a 9. As I did not wind up having zimmer time with her, I am wondering if anyone knows who I am talking about and if they can share a little info about her performance. I decided that unless I saw something better, I would have a session with Pixie cut. But to scout the other talent I decided to walk the halls. As I was walking through the atrium (Jacuzzi area) , I was stopped by a older (compared to the other talent) lady who told me that she was the sperm police and that she needed to take a sample. We talked for a bit, she told me that her name was Jessica and that she was German. I told her that I would have another beer and that I would find her later. So back to the bar for a beer and then to one of the sofas so I could watch the girls for a while. At this point, it was still my intention to meet up with Pixie. But as I watched her, I got the feeling that she was a little aloof and worried that it would carry over into the zimmer. Jessica was my second choice and while she was a 7, her personality seemed fun. About half way through the beer, I decided that Jessica was actually my first choice because of her personality (of course I really had no idea of Pixie's personality). After the beer, I found Jessica and off we went to a room. In the room, Jessica and I had a great time. Everything was on the menu and she performed quite well, I was pleased with my choice. She told me that she is 27, but I am not sure if that is true or not as she seemed older to me. Regardless, while not the best looking woman in the club, I recommend her for her enthusiasm, performance and outgoing personality. After the session, I decided to have a coffee. My plan was to have the coffee and then get back on the road. While having the coffee, a new girl appeared. She was blonde, had curly hair and very petite. She was topless with perfect breasts (might be too small for some readers). This girl exuded sexy out her pores. She noticed that I was looking at her and I motioned her over. She told me that her name was Carmen and that she was from Romania. We exchanged small talk for a while and I decided that I liked this girl. Initially, I thought that I wouldn't because of her stunning looks; to me she was a 10. She asked if I wanted her to get a key and I told her that I needed to get back on the road and that I would have to decline. She was cool about it (this also impressed me) and suggested that the next time I came in, I should look for her. I knew that I would regret not having a session with her, so I decided to put off my journey for a half an hour more. Wow! I am glad that I did! This little 22 year old outperformed Jessica (and Jessica was good). Everything was on the menu and Carmen rocked my world for a half an hour. She is now my all time favorite (replacing Swiss Michelle at Oase). I have done a search and have found that other members have had similar experiences with Carmen. One or two described her as having resemblance to the Czech porn star Sharka Blue- I agree. I can't wait to go back to GT to see Carmen again. On the next trip I will certainly book her for at least an hour if not longer. Of course, I need to leave room on my dance card for Pixie if anyone has any information about her.
London Traveller
12-07-11, 11:04
Of course, I need to leave room on my dance card for Pixie if anyone has any information about her.I think that your 'Pixie' is a German girl who is definitely rather aloof. If it's the same girl we are talking about then she has remarkable blue eyes and a good suntan. I chatted to her once and she really gave me the brush off. She tends to sit in the far corner of the room on a stool near the exit door or else stand just outside the bar. Unfortunately I can't remember her name.
I think that your 'Pixie' is a German girl who is definitely rather aloof. If it's the same girl we are talking about then she has remarkable blue eyes and a good suntan. I chatted to her once and she really gave me the brush off. She tends to sit in the far corner of the room on a stool near the exit door or else stand just outside the bar. Unfortunately I can't remember her name.Sounds like a girl I went with, dark spiked hair very cute face and a very nice set of large perky B's. Think her name was kiki
Sounds like a girl I went with, dark spiked hair very cute face and a very nice set of large perky B's. Think her name was kikiLondon and Breadman,
I think that we are speaking about the same girl. She hangs out in the area as London describes and has the breasts that Breadman describes. It sounds like London did not bother with her but Breadman did. So Breadman, is she as aloof in the zimmer as she seems to be out in the bar?
Heading back to Germany tomorrow and will go a little out of the way to see Carmen again and if Kiki comes with a good recommendation, I might save a 50 for her.
Thanks,
Ky
London and Breadman,
I think that we are speaking about the same girl. She hangs out in the area as London describes and has the breasts that Breadman describes. It sounds like London did not bother with her but Breadman did. So Breadman, is she as aloof in the zimmer as she seems to be out in the bar?
Heading back to Germany tomorrow and will go a little out of the way to see Carmen again and if Kiki comes with a good recommendation, I might save a 50 for her.
Thanks,
KyI wrote a small comment about her back in September. From what I remember she was very striking, one of the best of a weak lineup. Ran into her in the hallway and she was very pleasant, had a nice chat. Took her to the room and it was 'so so'. Not bad but not great. Lets just say her hole and my pole didn't quite fit. Its happened before and when it does the girl usually works harder on the blowjob, not Kiki. She does have a hell of a nice body, I'm sure others have enjoyed her with more success than I.
The Pixie's name is Kira.
She was there when I met you that day in October London Traveller.
I watched her and another girl process guys in a 3 some.
I never saw a bead of sweat on her. Not a good sign.
Plus, my friend's from another board had a so-so time with her.
I agree. She certainly cute, and has perfect little tits (B cup)
Actually, those little tits were the reason I din't go with her.
She always hangs out in that little dark room in the corridor.
Best Regards.
Smuler
Italian Buz
01-05-12, 15:20
Here I am on Jan. 5 sitting in the main area of GT, my by far favorite club since my beginning with this hobby. The club is packed with withebears and gazelles are also present in great numbers. It's going to be a good day. I have some on my list but then I will be bere also Saturday so can refrain to close myself in the rooms also because the last 6 days have been everything but relaxing!
First will be my favorite small Polish doll Jana. Reports will follow later.
Italian Buz
01-05-12, 23:10
So the day is slow for the usual Thursday standards of GT. Girls are a bit bored and blame the men for lack of stamina in the beginning of tris New Year.
So back into action, I did my Polish favorite Jana and then an other great session with Romanian Vera. Tris latter is a tall slander girls with jet back hair in a bob cut, very white skin and usually sitting on the sofas on the right side of the entrance.
She provided a great GFE service, we stood in the room 1hr and 15min and she was happy with 100. Highly recommended.
So now I get back to the main task, hunting my next gazelle!
All the best.
ITB
Here I am on Jan. 5 sitting in the main area of GT, my by far favorite club since my beginning with this hobby. The club is packed with withebears and gazelles are also present in great numbers. It's going to be a good day. I have some on my list but then I will be bere also Saturday so can refrain to close myself in the rooms also because the last 6 days have been everything but relaxing!
First will be my favorite small Polish doll Jana. Reports will follow later.She did a wonder on my nuts (tea-bagged her mouth and face) , and she has some sweet, sweet, sweet tight, warm, moist Polish pussy too. Enjoy that!
Nille Copenhagen
01-06-12, 11:29
She did a wonder on my nuts (tea-bagged her mouth and face) , and she has some sweet, sweet, sweet tight, warm, moist Polish pussy too. Enjoy that!Well I like Jana too, sweet girl but sometimes I find her a little passive in the sex act. Maybe I got bored of her, I know how she react on my moves, same old song IYKWIM. I'm more excited with new girls.
Italian Buz
01-07-12, 12:46
Here I am back to GT for my last day of this 9 days trip.
On Thursday I finished my day with Sonia, ex Living Room that I know since long. For her description please see my previous LR reports. I had an enjoyable hour with her and went to sleep happy.
Today line up excellent even in the early morning but after the perfect day I had yesterday at Bernds I have no idea if any lust will grow up in me even in presence of such beauties like the GT girls. Let's see, at the moment I wait for my wingman and friend and then I will decide if I have any power, lust or juices left.
Italian Buz
01-07-12, 17:56
Did a great session with Polish Patrizia, slender tall model-like figure. Dark shoulder lenght hair and beatiful blue eyes.
For Beffen, as many of the best LR girls, also his beloved Romanian Romina is now definetely only in GT and not returning anymore in LR.
Did a great session with Polish Patrizia, slender tall model-like figure. Dark shoulder lenght hair and beatiful blue eyes.
For Beffen, as many of the best LR girls, also his beloved Romanian Romina is now definetely only in GT and not returning anymore in LR.Really GREAT to see you posting again Italian Buzz!
What a marathon visit to FKK-Land you have undertaken!
You are indeed a true professional! :D
CD
Did a great session with Polish Patrizia, slender tall model-like figure. Dark shoulder lenght hair and beatiful blue eyes.
For Beffen, as many of the best LR girls, also his beloved Romanian Romina is now definetely only in GT and not returning anymore in LR.Is it the same Romina (with a fantastic body) that worked there about 4 years ago (she had a small wart / pimple above her lip)?
P
Is it the same Romina (with a fantastic body) that worked there about 4 years agoYes that is her. 2011 also often in LR and sometimes Samya. Before also working in some other clubs in NRW and FKK-World. But currently in GT.
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Italian Buz
01-09-12, 14:32
Really GREAT To see you posting again Italian Buzz!
What a marathon visit to FKK-Land you have undertaken!
You are indeed a true professional! .
CDHi CD, thanks for your nice words, much appreciated and waiting for your return on the FKK scene in this 2012!
In the last months I have been too much in the clubs with no time left for reporting properly!
I then finished my last day at GT doing first 1hr with Ger. Destiny, she works regularly at GT even if not everyday. Now she has made her hair brown but she is as usual beautiful if you like the typical german girl, slender, atletic, blue eyes and some tatoos, LOL.
Se was really willing and into it, we had great time with me doing DATY on her and she performing a long dtbbbj and then riding me!
Last was a repeat of 1hr with Polish Patrizia. Afterward I wanted to do more but after nine days I just enjoyed my last couple of hours in the clubs for this time. Just looking to be' back and checking already for my next flights, LOL.
Happy mongering to all!
ITB
Sailaway69
01-10-12, 15:00
Gents,
Going to Dusseldorf and are not a newbee but not a pro like you guys either. What club is recomended in this are? HAve been a few times at LR and really enjoyed it!
Personally I like (like the most) young, slim photo models with firm big B+, C, D+ and above breasts. That gives exelent GF and if possible two girls at one go!
Thanks for you guidance guys!
Italian Buz
01-10-12, 19:26
Gents,
Going to Dusseldorf and are not a newbee but not a pro like you guys either. What club is recomended in this are? HAve been a few times at LR and really enjoyed it!
Personally I like (like the most) young, slim photo models with firm big B+, C, D+ and above breasts. That gives exelent GF and if possible two girls at one go!
Thanks for you guidance guys!Hey Sailaway69,
If you are more looping for action you will be satisfied at the best level at GT, otherwise if you will be over in NRW on a weekend and are in a party mood you can for sure also enjoy VV.
Best line-up in my opinion is for sure at GT, that club has simply the best looking girls, even if I like a lot also VV nad have a lot of fun there and I know many wonderful girls who are working there and willing to delight me with their charme. But then I have the possibility to go to Germany quite often and therefore I can always simply think that next time I will go to a different place. On a one time basis I would suggest GT where you can optimize your time in the room.
There is an old Russian joke. One guy is being asked: "What would you'd like to drink? Beer? Wine?"
He answered: "And vodka too!"
So my answer is.
Dusseldorf, LR, GT or VV or?And Acapulco too.
Good luck!
Nille Copenhagen
01-10-12, 21:58
Gents,
Going to Dusseldorf and are not a newbee but not a pro like you guys either. What club is recomended in this are? HAve been a few times at LR and really enjoyed it!
Personally I like (like the most) young, slim photo models with firm big B+, C, D+ and above breasts. That gives exelent GF and if possible two girls at one go!
Thanks for you guidance guys!Try Acapulco!
Many have recently reported a strong line-up.
I've been a big fan of Golden time, had a friend joining so I made it the first club. My previous visit was in April.
I can say that I didn't get the same feeling of my 10+ visits before, this one, the vibe was missing and I felt the deterioration in service of the girls, and rise in their attitude, below is the report written during the recovery times.
Just arriving, I spotted a voluptuous tall red head with DD called Jenny, saw her in while changing changing.
She would be my symbol of sex goddess in the Greek mythology, hence, from my experience I knew it would be a bad session, but what the heck, I'd pay more than 50E to lick this pussy and have her legs up high in the sky.
Approached her and she gave me a dazzling smile which showed a flawless teeth, in my mind I was thinking "Oh, this would be a good session"
Being my first session, and she being the target, I only asked once question "can you find us a key"
Once in the room, she laid her towel and asked me what would you like to do. I replied with all the enthusiasm, I would like to have a good time, I approached her to start DFK but. She refused! Well, in my mind it was a bomb, but, it is my fault, didn't ask.
I told her no problem, and asked her to relax and I'll do the work. She said what I mean and I replied I want to kiss you down and pointed at the Y.
She said no too! Well this was the deal breaker for me, so I told her "then this session is over, aufviedersehen" then I walked out of the room.
I didn't know what will happen next, as it is my first time ever to encounter such a think in FKK, but I didn't care. I had a light chat with the ladies at the counter when I came in and we joked until the other lady get me my change "a bill of 500E was pain in the ass to get rid off" so I had something in me saying that if she complained, I will be poliete and object to pay.
Anyway I walked out of the room after dressing up and she got dressed too and I walked straight to the bar area, she didn't follow so I waited until she came back to the lounge area and she didn't ask for anything, so I knew I was on the clear.
After a while recovering from the experience and reminding myself that no matter how much experience I have "not that much but not little too" newbies rules always rule. Always ask upfront of what I like.
Next was Morana from Romania. She was very pleasent, we laughted and we kissed on the sofa before going to the room, on the door I asked her, can I lick your pussy, she said yes, so I entered. In the room she did FK but I figured she is a light kisser so didn't want to force her.
Mara of Bulgaria. We started the session with her try to upsell for me, so I told her I will only do the normal and if she doesn't like that we can cancel. She said no, I was only telling you the menu, then she jumped from bed as I was still standing and we DFK and took me to bed and she was controling. The session turned out to be so good that I extended to an hour and actually ended up with Anal. It was my 2nd time ever and it was like only 10 minutes. I guess I'll never opt for it again, doesn't worth the money. Total damage on this session 75 E for one hour and 50 for the Anal. So total 125E.
Last session was the most memorable, Marie of Colombia.
It was a total GFE. Best session and 1 hr of passion, sex and massage. Never talked about money. Gave her 100 E as it was well deserved.
If not for this session, I would probably wouldn't have came back to Goldentime again.
On the way out, I had a chat also with the lady at the bar, she is super sexy hot lady. Every time I go there I see her and wish she was working, but I guess she is the manager or owner or the wife of either. What surprises me is that we always exchange couple of jokes and get 1 or 2 minutes of chatting when she asks for feedback when we are leaving. I had from my same race "middle eastern" and he was refused entry before and he related it to race, which I totally don't think so and told him so, I guess it was just a very busy night.
Anyway, all in all, I had a good time, new experience "walking out of the room" and learned the lesson that it is always good to refresh my memory with the newbies rules.
Few updates:
The food now is much better as they have it cooked and served in the tent outside. There was a different choices, and it was delicious, long long queues though.
As usual, there is pizza at night, but it was finished when i came out of the room.
Going back next month.
I have visited golden time for the first time last December it was nice and clean that atmosphere was home friendly rather than a club with a nice selection of girls which are not pushy.
I picked up a blond German girl named Kim she was a total GF experience she speaks good english she gave me a nice massage and a great BJ and a good f*uk, rooms are very clean but the problem that you need to wait for the room to be available
The pors of the place they have a limited selection of drinks.
In total it was a goo experience I will defiantly go there once I'm back in Germany.
Here I am on Jan. 5 sitting in the main area of GT, my by far favorite club since my beginning with this hobby.Hi Italian Buz, how did you go live from the main area? With your phone or tablet device? The reason that I ask is I would like to be able to sit in the main area and do a little work or surfing between sessions or maybe even write a couple of reports as you did with my iPad. But I have seen instances in the past where the management has asked clients to put their phones back in the locker. So I thought that it was policy (because almost all phones have cameras these days) not to allow such devices.
Thanks,
KY
Is there anything "fun" to do in the area after the 1:00 AM closing time on Sundays, other than just go to sleep?
If you want, you can get a voucher for half price of in Living Room (Kaarst, near Dusseldorf). This club is open till 3 or 4 depending on the day. You can also go to By Night (next to Planet Happy Garden) , which is sort of a disco with fuckrooms. There are always girls from GT and LR that go there afterwards (or halfway throught the evening). Last time I went to GT, I was one of the last to leave and the girl I was with asked me to go with her to By Night. Helas I had other obligations the next morning and had to decline.
Is there anything "fun" to do in the area after the 1:00 AM closing time on Sundays, other than just go to sleep?No! Depends of course on what you define as "fun" and "area". In the GT / VV / PHG area after 1AM people sleep, it is a countryside area. Biggest City nearby is Krefeld, on a Saturday there is a Night Life there with some great Disco's, but on a Sunday Night it is "dead".
You also asked in the VV section, but believe me on a Sunday in this area only Gt and PHG are worth a visit, not VV. Do not enter LR on a Sunday after 1AM, waiste of time and $. I can recommend by Night (combi of Disco and Saunaclub) on many nights but on a Sunday Night, hmmm,"donknow!".
No! Depends of course on what you define as "fun" and "area". In the GT / VV / PHG area after 1AM people sleep, it is a countryside area. Biggest City nearby is Krefeld, on a Saturday there is a Night Life there with some great Disco's, but on a Sunday Night it is "dead".
You also asked in the VV section, but believe me on a Sunday in this area only Gt and PHG are worth a visit, not VV. Do not enter LR on a Sunday after 1AM, waiste of time and $. I can recommend by Night (combi of Disco and Saunaclub) on many nights but on a Sunday Night, hmmm,"donknow!".So according to your experience, on a Sunday night, what time works best to leave Goldentime and get to Living Room, to get the best of both clubs, and make such a trip worthwhile to hop between clubs? And what are your considerations in deciding? Is there, for example, a usual time Sunday night when Goldentime begins to lull, when it might be better to leave and go elsewhere?
What is the procedure to get the discount for LR? Do you have to ask for some kind of a discount receipt or ticket while you are at Goldentime for the entrance fee to LR?
Also, during what time period is the "By Night" disco club a happening place on a Sunday night? I assume one needs to make a choice on either going to Living Room or going to the By Night disco club after leaving goldentime on a Sunday night.
So according to your experience, on a Sunday night, what time works best to leave Goldentime and get to Living Room, to get the best of both clubs, and make such a trip worthwhile to hop between clubs? And what are your considerations in deciding? Is there, for example, a usual time Sunday night when Goldentime begins to lull, when it might be better to leave and go elsewhere?Putting aside the issue of Sunday being a "funny" day at most / all clubs: I've often done the GT / LR combination for a combined total Enty fee of [50e (GT) + 25e (LR)] 75e. I normally find it best to arrive at GT during the afternoon, say. 14. 00. Then around 19.00 or 19.30, after taking advantage of the decent dinner served at GT, I start to make a move towards the exit and drive my hired car to LR, an easy drive almost completely on the motorway of about 30-40mins. I arrive at 20. 00ish at LR and party the rest of the night there. A great combination, plus there is a decent hotel (ISA Sport Arena Hotel) just 150m down the street from LR. You can normally get a walk-in rate for about 40e for a single room.
Pretty easy and convenient combination of GT out in a countryside setting and LR in an suburban Industrial setting. It is truely worth renting a car for sure.
O
So according to your experience, on a Sunday night, what time works best to leave Goldentime and get to Living Room, to get the best of both clubs, and make such a trip worthwhile to hop between clubs?My answer is the same as what O proposed. Note on Sunday GT opens at 1PM. On a Sunday I would go for GT or the GT / LR combi. You ask for this discount ticket at the theke of GT.
Note currently it is real winter time in Germany and Holland . Night temperatures of -10/-20 degrees Celsius. But the road conditions are good since not a lot of snow has fallen. Last weekend I was in the GT/VV/PHG area and not a problem to drive, it was cold but almost no snow. It is expected that this week also will be a cold week with low temperatures but not much snow.
Vito Corleone
02-07-12, 06:20
A great combination, plus there is a decent hotel (ISA Sport Arena Hotel) just 150m down the street from LR. You can normally get a walk-in rate for about 40e for a single room.
OThe sports arena hotel has been closed for business for quite a while now. Nice place to park in the daytime as the normal night time parking options are not available.
Hessen Bub
02-07-12, 11:04
The sports arena hotel has been closed for business for quite a while now. Nice place to park in the daytime as the normal night time parking options are not available.Are you sure? I've been there last year in Oktober. Website is still up and running.
http://www.blog.internationalsportarena.de/0_blog/wordpress/?page_id=159
HB
I stayed at the ISA two weeks ago (and many times before). There is a empty former hotel building on the other side of LR though, but the ISA (150m farther away from the Ikea s-bahn station) has been in business as far as I know.
Are you sure? I've been there last year in Oktober. Website is still up and running.
http://www.blog.internationalsportarena.de/0_blog/wordpress/?page_id=159
HBI think Vito is mixing up ISA and the Sports&More which has been closed for couple of years now.
I stayed at the ISA two weeks ago (and many times before).I know! ISA sport arena hotel is open and has never been closed. Some Dutch Icebears spent the night there last Saturday after a LR visit, so did FD 2 weeks ago. 2011 May and August I also spent 2 nights there. Business as usual.
B30
Nille Copenhagen
02-07-12, 20:23
I know! ISA sport arena hotel is open and has never been closed. Some Dutch Icebears spent the night there last Saturday after a LR visit, so did FD 2 weeks ago. 2011 May and August I also spent 2 nights there. Business as usual.
B30Yes it's open, close to LR, but crap hotel / rooms IMO,
I prefer the Park Inn Kaarst.
Hello, All,
About to make a trip to the GT area and wondering if anyone knows if Carmen is still there? An edited description of Carmen from a previous post by me:
"She was blonde, had curly hair and very petite. She was topless with perfect breasts (might be too small for some readers). This girl exuded sexy out her pores. She noticed that I was looking at her and I motioned her over. She told me that her name was Carmen and that she was from Romania. We exchanged small talk for a while and I decided that I liked this girl. Initially, I thought that I wouldn't because of her stunning looks; to me she was a 10. She asked if I wanted her to get a key and I told her that I needed to get back on the road and that I would have to decline. She was cool about it (this also impressed me) and suggested that the next time I came in, I should look for her. I knew that I would regret not having a session with her, so I decided to put off my journey for a half an hour more. Wow! I am glad that I did! Everything was on the menu and Carmen rocked my world for a half an hour. I have done a search and have found that other members have had similar experiences with Carmen. One or two described her as having resemblance to the Czech porn star Sharka Blue- I agree."
Hello, All,
About to make a trip to the GT area and wondering if anyone knows if Carmen is still there? An edited description of Carmen from a previous post by me:Carmen is still there!
B30
Yes it's open, close to LR, but crap hotel / rooms IMO,
I prefer the Park Inn Kaarst.Hey, this place is not a 5-star place for sure, but what do expect for 40e / night? How much do you pay at the Park Inn? If it's significantly above 40e, then I'm not that interested considering the ISA gives me a clean, quiet room which I normally visit round 2AM just to sleep soundly after a day / night of sex at GT / LR. Really, I'm only there to sleep and the place is pretty damn clean and queit and that works for me.
O
Hey, this place is not a 5-star place for sure, but what do expect for 40e / night? How much do you pay at the Park Inn? If it's significantly above 40e, then I'm not that interested considering the ISA gives me a clean, quiet room which I normally visit round 2AM just to sleep soundly after a day / night of sex at GT / LR. Really, I'm only there to sleep and the place is pretty damn clean and queit and that works for me.
OThe park-inn is just as crappy. Smells like armpit in there. The price there is usually around 70 if I remember right. What I like about the ISA is that I can drink some beers and not worry about the police if I am driving. The walking distance to Park-Inn is a bit too long for my lazy ass at 3 am.
On that nore, here is the advice of the day: If you are driving, do not flush with Listerine after your last session if there is less than 1/2 hour before you will leave the club and drive. The other day when leaving Aca, I did and was stopped. I measured just below the limit, but above the "its my fault if I have accident" limit. I had not had a single drink, but flushed with Listerine about 15-20 minutes before leaving the club.
the park-inn is just as crappy. smells like armpit in there. the price there is usually around 70 if i remember right. what i like about the isa is that i can drink some beers and not worry about the police if i am driving. the walking distance to park-inn is a bit too long for my lazy ass at 3 am.
on that nore, here is the advice of the day: if you are driving, do not flush with listerine after your last session if there is less than 1/2 hour before you will leave the club and drive. the other day when leaving aca, i did and was stopped. i measured just below the limit, but above the "its my fault if i have accident" limit. i had not had a single drink, but flushed with listerine about 15-20 minutes before leaving the club.great advice!
were you stopped near the lr club? are there typically speed traps set up near lr at 3am, with police waiting to stop those exiting from the club who might have had drinks? or were you stopped somewhere else?
also, i assume you were not drinking the listerine. lol. do you think it would help if one rinsed out one's mouth and throat with water, a few minutes after using the listerine?
lj
great advice!
were you stopped near the lr club? are there typically speed traps set up near lr at 3am, with police waiting to stop those exiting from the club who might have had drinks? or were you stopped somewhere else?
also, i assume you were not drinking the listerine. lol. do you think it would help if one rinsed out one's mouth and throat with water, a few minutes after using the listerine?
lji was stopped when leaving acapulco, not lr. there are almost always police cars lurking around most of the nrw clubs and doing random checks, specially around the clubs that provide free bear such as gt and lr. the do not put up speed traps and you will probably not notice them unless you are looking. in my case i had actually forgot to turn on the lights which was reason enough for them to stop me.
number of my friends have been stopped when leaving nrw clubs. don't remember any of them having been pulled over when leaving hessen clubs.
no, i was not drinking the listerine and i am sure rinsing well with water and perhaps eat something might help. you can also use the non-alcoholic version, but it is not as effective in killing germs.
Nille Copenhagen
02-11-12, 08:37
The park-inn is just as crappy. Smells like armpit in there. The price there is usually around 70 if I remember right. What I like about the ISA is that I can drink some beers and not worry about the police if I am driving. The walking distance to Park-Inn is a bit too long for my lazy ass at 3 am.
On that nore, here is the advice of the day: If you are driving, do not flush with Listerine after your last session if there is less than 1/2 hour before you will leave the club and drive. The other day when leaving Aca, I did and was stopped. I measured just below the limit, but above the "its my fault if I have accident" limit. I had not had a single drink, but flushed with Listerine about 15-20 minutes before leaving the club.I pay around 50 for Park Inn ex. B-fast, (I get special price) , true the hotel corridors have a smell, but the rooms are bigger and nicer. The hotel have a pool.
I always open the windows to get fresh air in the room.
Why are you flushing your mouth? Don't you like the taste of pussy. LOL.
Why are you flushing your mouth? Don't you like the taste of pussy. LOL.It is a general hygenie issue in order not to catch cold, sore throat, the common flu etc. Which is easily spread in FKKs. Used to catch that shit all the time before starting the practise of regularly disinfecting my mouth and throat while in FKK. It is the kissing thing that spreads germs.
btw: I have wandered what the hell that smell is in the park-inn corridors. Really smells like a bad case of BO and I am usually gagging by the time I reach the room. I find the rooms at park-inn on par with the ones at ISA.
It is a general hygenie issue in order not to catch cold, sore throat, the common flu etc. Which is easily spread in FKKs. Used to catch that shit all the time before starting the practise of regularly disinfecting my mouth and throat while in FKK. It is the kissing thing that spreads germs.
BTW: I have wandered what the hell that smell is in the park-inn corridors. Really smells like a bad case of BO and I am usually gagging by the time I reach the room. I find the rooms at park-inn on par with the ones at ISA.For those interested in hygeine, it's adviseable to carry a small bottle of Listerine in one's bathrobe pocket. (You are anyways probably carrying your special condoms or lubricants you may wish to use, since the girls don't usually have the thinnest, more sensitive condoms, so why not a small bottle of mouthwash too?). The girl should be asked to rinse her throat with Listerine before starting a blow job to minimize your exposure to germs she may have in her throat (her own or from other guys) , and you should rinse after the session, especially if it included DATY and DFK.
On a separate note, I was wondering whether, since GT (and VV) close at 1:00 AM, has anyone succeeded in getting one of the girls to come back to their hotel to continue the fun there? If this is possible, then it could be an alternatiive to club hopping over to LR.
LJ
On a separate note, I was wondering whether, since GT (and VV) close at 1:00 AM, has anyone succeeded in getting one of the girls to come back to their hotel to continue the fun there? If this is possible, then it could be an alternatiive to club hopping over to LR.
LJNumber of gents on this board have met up with girls outside of the clubs (both after closing as well as on their days off) , including yours truly. I don't think many of them would be willing to name the girl since it would probably out them. Usually it is a result of knowing the girl for quite some time, but there are also instances of a first time meeting ending up in a hotel, but I would not bank on it and try to plan it as an alternative to some other action after 1 am.
There was also a report some time ago where a guy got taken for quite a bit of money on behalf of Roberta at Oase and they never even made it to his hotel room, so make sure you have your wits with you (like in don't pay up front and shit like that)
Vito Corleone
02-13-12, 09:36
I think Vito is mixing up ISA and the Sports&More which has been closed for couple of years now.Yes. I meant the Sports & More. Nice place to park during the day.
I had previously asked if a guy could use his smart phone at GT and did not get a response. Apparently the answer is yes because I am using one right now. It is a overcast Tuesday afternoon (about 1445) I have been here for about 30 minutes or so and am this far a little disappointed by the line up. But it is early, right? As I look around the room, I see many of the "usual suspects" and a few new faces as well but no one has captured my attention yet. Stay tuned.
It is about 1600 here, I have come to learn from the ladies that "my girl" Carmen has not been seen for about 3 or 4 weeks, so my thanks to the member who told me that she was still here. I might have saved myself the trip if I had known. Of course there is no one to blame but me; I could have called. So on previous trips I have noticed a somewhat tall girl who is petite, has jet black short hair that is unevenly cut and glasses. As I was sitting, having a beer and generally being disappointed, she came over. Her name is Nina, she is 24 years old and from Budapest. Small talk and then off to the zimmer. Nina is nice enough, but I question her hygiene as there were some unsavory smells. Room performance? Not all that great. First she makes a strange slurping / whistling sound when kissing which is unsettling, next she was pretty unenthusiastic and her BBJ sucked (pardon the pun). After the session she was already in the main room when I returned from the shower- further causing me to question her hygiene as I have never met a woman who is able to shower faster than me.
well i am back at the hotel. i had two more sessions following my last report for a total of three sessions for the day. before getting to the zimmer reports, i hope that a newbie will not judge gt based upon my experience there today. today is valentine's day, so business was off (parking was available in the parking lot when i arrived at 2 and when i departed at 7:30). i think that many ladies knew that it would be a slow day and decided to save the 50 euro and stay at home. on to the zimmer reports. my next session after nina was with a lady named "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)". of course [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is not her real name, but my real name is not ky daddy, so who am i to pass judgement. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) is a german girl of 24 years with jet black hair, full, but not overly large, augmented breasts that look and feel nice and several angel-centric tattoos. i did not see the tattoos until in the zimmer. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) really isn't a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) as she is somewhat thick. a little more meat on her than what is my usual fare, but she was friendly and there was not much of a selection. in the room, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) was a pleasure to talk to, but the sex was so so. i would not repeat. after [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), i took a shower and then went to eat. liver! wtf? really, liver? i expect that if i conducted a poll of people in the world, i would discover that 75% of people in the world hate liver. seems like a strange food for a club to serve. of course most of the ladies and the customers were opting for the meatless spaghetti. while eating i started talking to a pretty romanian girl (22 years old) by the name of rebecca. rebecca told me that she just transferred from the living room because gt has a higher amount of customers. we had a nice conversation and when she suggested a zimmer, i agreed. in the zimmer, the good conversation continued but the "fun" really was not all that fun. rebecca is so concerned with safety and hygiene that it killed the mood for me. no french kissing, no cim, no fingers, etc. when it came time for the main event, she repeatedly was fidgeting around with the cover to make sure that it was in place and intact. a really nice girl, but i think that she is in the wrong business. so today at the gt was not so great, but i have had plenty of other good experiences there in past to keep me coming back in the future.
It is about 1600 here, I have come to learn from the ladies that "my girl" Carmen has not been seen for about 3 or 4 weeks, so my thanks to the member who told me that she was still here. I might have saved myself the trip if I had known. Of course there is no one to blame but me; I could have called.Who told you yesterday that Carmen has not be seen for 3 or 4 weeks?
I've seen her last Thursday and also 2 weeks ago on Wednesday in GT. Don't believe the ladies because they want your money instead of Carmen.
I think she was yesterday not there because of Valentine's day. The girls have also boyfriends where they want to celebrate Valentine's Day with.
Next time better call before you leave.
It is about 1600 here, I have come to learn from the ladies that "my girl" Carmen has not been seen for about 3 or 4 weeks, so my thanks to the member who told me that she was still here.Then the ladies did not tell you the thruth about Carmen, see also reaction of J42 who is a regular visitor of GT and knows very well when Carmen is in Gt!
I've seen her last Thursday and also 2 weeks ago on Wednesday in GT. Don't believe the ladies because they want your money instead of Carmen.
Next time better call before you leave.Exactly Jack42! So yes Carmen is still in GT and actually today she was spotted in Gt! The fact that she is in GT ofcourse does not mean that she works every day in GT, esspecially on Valentines Day one can expect that not all girls will be present.
James Bond 007
03-10-12, 02:41
Has anyone noticed advertisement about Living Room left inside the men's lockers? It seems like a Living Room card and hand sanitizer inside a plastic wrapper. Is GT trying to steer customers to their sister club, since wait times at GT are becoming ridiculous at certain times? I have noticed some of the girls at GT getting quite annoyed at the wait times, moreso thatn the men.
I wonder if anyone knows that blond German (mixed with Russian ethnic) girl Samina (spelling?) is still working there. She's around 5'4" without heels.
Has anyone noticed advertisement about Living Room left inside the men's lockers? It seems like a Living Room card and hand sanitizer inside a plastic wrapper. Is GT trying to steer customers to their sister club, since wait times at GT are becoming ridiculous at certain times? I have noticed some of the girls at GT getting quite annoyed at the wait times, moreso thatn the men.You don't get them everytime, it's just a little extra, just like the 25 entry for LR if you do both the same day. The clubs match pretty well by the way, by the time waiting times start to get out of control in GT (weekends after dinner) , LR just starts to get going. Waiting times are less of a 'problem' for the men because they get to have an hour of free hankypanky before getting to the real stuff.
You don't get them everytime, it's just a little extra, just like the 25 entry for LR if you do both the same day. The clubs match pretty well by the way, by the time waiting times start to get out of control in GT (weekends after dinner) , LR just starts to get going. Waiting times are less of a 'problem' for the men because they get to have an hour of free hankypanky before getting to the real stuff.Ik kan understand that the girls get anoyed, they are there for some good fun and business. When I have to wait for more then 1 hour, I go home and give it a try later. Or also good is to go during the afternoon. When you have a public holiday in the week-end, forget it in Golden Time.
Nille Copenhagen
03-15-12, 10:54
Ik kan understand that the girls get anoyed, they are there for some good fun and business. When I have to wait for more then 1 hour, I go home and give it a try later. Or also good is to go during the afternoon. When you have a public holiday in the week-end, forget it in Golden Time.GT is well known for the busy hours, take it or leave it.
I've seen a few FKK-tour companies popped up during the past,
I just wonder why would someone pay for a tour-guide for FKK-land (Sorry to offend somebody, but only guys from NAM would do that). FKK-land is safe and and the girls don't bite unless you pay them to do it.
I'll be happy to be a FKK-guide free of charge.
I hope you are not starting spamming us with your tour business.
Ik kan understand that the girls get anoyed, they are there for some good fun and business. When I have to wait for more then 1 hour, I go home and give it a try later. Or also good is to go during the afternoon. When you have a public holiday in the week-end, forget it in Golden Time.Can't take an undertaking seriously that doesn't seem to have heard of Oase. LOL.
Can't take an undertaking seriously that doesn't seem to have heard of Oase. LOL.Yeah, even the link doesn't work unless you remove a letter. Also: no Sharks, World, LR, Planet Eden. While PHG has a banner for Planet Eden if you click on it. Also Atrium doesn't exist anymore as it is part of the new Saunaclub Magnum and Globe in Leverkusen is a Pauschalclub. Pascha, Teenyland and Traumparadies are not FKK / sauna clubs. Got to do some more homework boy.
Good luck with the new enterprise. I presume you are aiming primarily at the North American market. Why not put an advert in the classified section of this forum (Germany. FKK Clubs). Aiming for North America, but also the Chinese and Japanese market. There will be a Chinese version soon.
I just wonder why would someone pay for a tour-guide for FKK-land (Sorry to offend somebody, but only guys from NAM would do that). FKK-land is safe and and the girls don't bite unless you pay them to do it.I just don't get it, some guy decides to create a website and these poor newbies start sending them money. Cut out the middle man and just send your paycheck to Nigeria.
Nille Copenhagen
03-15-12, 21:32
I just don't get it, some guy decides to create a website and these poor newbies start sending them money. Cut out the middle man and just send your paycheck to Nigeria.If newbies have found their way to this forum, they won't need a to pay for a guide, there are tons of tips and info in here.
I just don't get it, some guy decides to create a website and these poor newbies start sending them money. Cut out the middle man and just send your paycheck to Nigeria.I think we can come up with 1 mio other reasons where we can cut out the middle man, and where we can be more efficient with our money to support and help Nigeria. Or not? And I guarantee the newbies a top class service. And I believe that in the top segment there is still a need for this service. So that is why I want to invest this, and what I said before, this started for fun, and we will see what will come out of it. I enjoy visiting these clubs, I like the concept, its clean, transparent and if I can help other people, we have a win win situation.
I think we can come up with 1 mio other reasons where we can cut out the middle man, and where we can be more efficient with our money to support and help Nigeria. Or not? And I guarantee the newbies a top class service. And I believe that in the top segment there is still a need for this service. So that is why I want to invest this, and what I said before, this started for fun, and we will see what will come out of it. I enjoy visiting these clubs, I like the concept, its clean, transparent and if I can help other people, we have a win win situation.Well keep your info up to date, there are penty of internet forums (given that you guys speak German, Dutch and English) that can help you out (all for free!). There really is no excuse for not mentioning Oase. I also don't understand the need to visit two clubs a day; GT and LR sure, Freude and another club also not that weird, but in the Frankfurt area I wouldn't know what club would warrant a 'morning visit'.
The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?
The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?A few years back I chatted here with a newbie who went on a fkk tour with one of those groups. We were in town at the same time, at the same club and started to chat. As soon as his 'guide' saw us talking he threatened to drop him from the tour, no refund. Alone out in the middle of the countryside. Just goes to show you, you don't know what to expect from these shady characters. I'd love to travel farther into the eastern block but I'm not about to send a good chunk of change to a guy on some message board promising me a 'tour'. There is no business license, no way to check credentials.
A few years back I chatted here with a newbie who went on a fkk tour with one of those groups. We were in town at the same time, at the same club and started to chat. As soon as his 'guide' saw us talking he threatened to drop him from the tour, no refund. Alone out in the middle of the countryside. Just goes to show you, you don't know what to expect from these shady characters. I'd love to travel farther into the eastern block but I'm not about to send a good chunk of change to a guy on some message board promising me a 'tour'. There is no business license, no way to check credentials.There is no way that you can check credentials, there is no such thing as a tourguide certificate, and that will never be there, I am fiancially not depending on this business. To build some confidence I have added my LInkedIn profile to this site. The only reason why I want to offer this kind of service is found in the fact that it is all legal, clean and beautifull locations, with gorgeous women. And I want to share this.
An other group of people I focus on is the guys from corporate, and the visitors from the corporate office guys, that come to visit Europe, what I offer them is an exellent night out, without any hassle, I pick them up, we go the club (s) where hey want to go, and I drop them of at their hotel. My business case is the time I spent with a fee, and If you are on the road for 14 hours and you charge them 500 euro, s, I think it is fair.
It is a matter of confidence and trust. But how do you bring that accross, using a website. Anyway. I will keep developing this and hope that it will grow as expected. It is not scalable and full is full.
Thank you for your feed-back. It is apreciated. The website is still worked on, and indeed missing Oase is pretty stupid. The other comments are taken seriously and will be corrected in the next version.
Well keep your info up to date, there are penty of internet forums (given that you guys speak German, Dutch and English) that can help you out (all for free!). There really is no excuse for not mentioning Oase. I also don't understand the need to visit two clubs a day; GT and LR sure, Freude and another club also not that weird, but in the Frankfurt area I wouldn't know what club would warrant a 'morning visit'.
The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?Nooo you are absolute right about Oase. It was on the list, but somehow overseen. Shame shame, missed some quality check. I will take the non FKK clubs from the list, FKKTours and me are in the same business, but since it is nog verz good scalable, there is enough business for us 2, I do not exlcude a partner ship in the future, to help eachother out in certain situations, and I live in Amsterdam, so I can be in the NRW area within a few hours, with a nice new BMW 5 series L, to pick you up, that is maybe 1 usp. 2 clubs on 1 day sounds like a lot, but staying in 1 club the entire day, can get a little to much, especially when it is not your club of choice. You can only do 2 clubs per day in the areas where are enough clubs, otherwise you spent more time in the car then in the clubs.
Nille Copenhagen
03-17-12, 03:06
A few years back I chatted here with a newbie who went on a fkk tour with one of those groups. We were in town at the same time, at the same club and started to chat. As soon as his 'guide' saw us talking he threatened to drop him from the tour, no refund. Alone out in the middle of the countryside. Just goes to show you, you don't know what to expect from these shady characters. I'd love to travel farther into the eastern block but I'm not about to send a good chunk of change to a guy on some message board promising me a 'tour'. There is no business license, no way to check credentials.Better screw by the girls than the by the FKK tour company / guide. Or if you are unlucky you got screw by both.
Quote from the FKK tour website:
"Guides also do the driving and are very familiar with the terrain.
Guides did advanced driving training.
Their knowledge will come in handy for ATM's, Banks, Money Exchange, Food and Sightseeing.
An experienced guide and driver allows you to kick back and relax in between clubs and ensures you get from point A to point B quickly and safely both day and night.
Clubs are almost always in remote rural areas and hard to find."
LOL, LOL, come on! It's Germany not the jungle in Columbia.
GPS is your friend. Every smartphone has GPS.
There is no business license, no way to check credentials.No credentials, qualifications or license or anything, period! So one wonders if these tours are, according to the letter of the law, legal at all? Hey, why not call the "Tax Polizei" just like they do for the FKK club girls, just to make sure the guys who run these tours pay the BundesRepublik their fair share of the earnings? A Razzia on the FKK tours, LOL!
O
There is no way that you can check credentials, there is no such thing as a tourguide certificate, and that will never be there,Completely FALSE statement! There is indeed a license and a certified document for being a Tour Guide. Thousands of serious professionals have one. I have one! You show me yours, and I'll show you mine.
False and misleading statements like the one quoted above just show that at least some of your "operation" is built on BULLSHIT!
O
Nille Copenhagen
03-18-12, 12:15
Why are we discussing the tour guide business in the GT forum?
Please continue in the general section.
Vito Corleone
03-18-12, 13:03
Not sure if this has been posted, but starting April 1st 60euro entry. Not a big deal for me, but interesting. I sure hope they use the extra 10 euro to get another person to help with the ridiculous long lines for food.
Pheasantplucker
03-18-12, 13:59
Spent a few hours lazing in the sun in the garden at GT last Friday and recovering from my sessions with Lovely, Lin and Martina.
Stayed until late and enjoyed the food which seems to have improved a lot over the years I have known GT.
3 x GFE experiences, laid back atmosphere, a modicum of intelligent conversation at the bar. What a great way to start the weekend!
PP
Better screw by the girls than the by the FKK tour company / guide. Or if you are unlucky you got screw by both.
Quote from the FKK tour website:
"Guides also do the driving and are very familiar with the terrain.
Guides did advanced driving training.
Their knowledge will come in handy for ATM's, Banks, Money Exchange, Food and Sightseeing.
An experienced guide and driver allows you to kick back and relax in between clubs and ensures you get from point A to point B quickly and safely both day and night.
Clubs are almost always in remote rural areas and hard to find."
LOL, LOL, come on! It's Germany not the jungle in Columbia.
GPS is your friend. Every smartphone has GPS.When traveling abroad, you don't want to be bothered finding out where to go and where to stay and what the best places are. I have been all over the world many times and I would have really appreciate is when I could locate this kind of service in other countries. Sure when you take your time to surf the internet, you will always be able to find your way and never need some kind of help or tour guide, but all over the world, in touristic places, cities, or historic places or cultural places you find tour guides. And people use these kind of service. We offer top-end service for a specific group of people. You might not need it, some people do. .
Hahaha and I do agree that Germany is not the jungle in Columbia. Maybe a little to strong worded on the website. Might adjust that a little.
Completely FALSE statement! There is indeed a license and a certified document for being a Tour Guide. Thousands of serious professionals have one. I have one! You show me yours, and I'll show you mine.
False and misleading statements like the one quoted above just show that at least some of your "operation" is built on BULLSHIT!
OI do not understand why you react the way you do. I offer a high class, top end service to the people who want to use it, and you are probably not in my target group and that is fine.
No credentials, qualifications or license or anything, period! So one wonders if these tours are, according to the letter of the law, legal at all? Hey, why not call the "Tax Polizei" just like they do for the FKK club girls, just to make sure the guys who run these tours pay the BundesRepublik their fair share of the earnings? A Razzia on the FKK tours, LOL!
OIf you want to call the Tax Polizei thats fine for me, this operation is totally legal and registered, VAT numbers are available an tax has always been paid. I do not force anybody to wire me money, they can also pay with a COA, cash on Arrival, any kind of credit card or even with an invoice. No risk at all. We have arrangements with the nicest hotels in top locations to offer the best service available. And even when you are not happy I pay you your money back.
Well keep your info up to date, there are penty of internet forums (given that you guys speak German, Dutch and English) that can help you out (all for free!). There really is no excuse for not mentioning Oase. I also don't understand the need to visit two clubs a day; GT and LR sure, Freude and another club also not that weird, but in the Frankfurt area I wouldn't know what club would warrant a 'morning visit'.
The prices seem a bit excessive though, for that money you can just stay in a hotel and cab around according to your own desires. What's the difference between you guys and FKKtours BTW?Sure, we speak Dutch, English and German. Visiting 2 clubs a day is possible when you do the 1st club from opening till 7pm and the 2nd club till closing, so these day will take something like 14 hours a day. If you want. About the prices I can say, that if you take a cab for your transportation, the prices can go up to more then 2 euro per km, for a pick-up an drop-off of about 2 x 60km x 2 euro = 240 euro. Add-up 14 hours of availability and I do not consider the prices as very high. Your hourly rate will be a lot higher, I assume.
Why are we discussing the tour guide business in the GT forum?
Please continue in the general section.You are right. Let move the discussion to the general section.
Nille Copenhagen
03-19-12, 08:56
Not sure if this has been posted, but starting April 1st 60euro entry. Not a big deal for me, but interesting. I sure hope they use the extra 10 euro to get another person to help with the ridiculous long lines for food.I've haven't heard about this, so this will be the highest entry fee for NRW clubs. Maybe to limit amount of customer, a lot of guys just go and drink free and hang out.
I hope the other clubs are not raising their prices too.
I've haven't heard about this, so this will be the highest entry fee for NRW clubs. Maybe to limit amount of customer, a lot of guys just go and drink free and hang out.
I hope the other clubs are not raising their prices too.It's all over the Dutch and French forums, apparantly it also written down somewhere behind the theke in the club itself. Allthough not everyone is sure it's not some April fools thing. Since they are by far the most visited club in the area, they might get away with it; but even GT isn't at busy as it used to be a few months ago.
Not sure if this has been posted, but starting April 1st 60euro entry. Not a big deal for me, but interesting. I sure hope they use the extra 10 euro to get another person to help with the ridiculous long lines for food.I don't mind paying 65 euro's for a club that's open until 3 or 4 in the morning, I'm not so keen on paying 60 euro's where the club starts winding down at midnight. The lineup didn't get going until 5pm on my last visit, that's limits my fuck schedule to 5 hours (taking out the dinner rush and the pizza cue). Dayshift was pathetic on my last visit.
It's all over the Dutch and French forums, apparantly it also written down somewhere behind the theke in the club itself. Allthough not everyone is sure it's not some April fools thing. Since they are by far the most visited club in the area, they might get away with it; but even GT isn't at busy as it used to be a few months ago.I talked to a bunch of X-GT guys at VV on my last trip, alot have moved onto other clubs it seems. Might see larger crowds at PHG and VV come April. If this happens, word does get around to the girls. They go where the guys are and vice versa.
I don't mind paying 65 euro's for a club that's open until 3 or 4 in the morning, I'm not so keen on paying 60 euro's where the club starts winding down at midnight. The lineup didn't get going until 5pm on my last visit, that's limits my fuck schedule to 5 hours (taking out the dinner rush and the pizza cue). Dayshift was pathetic on my last visit.
I talked to a bunch of X-GT guys at VV on my last trip, alot have moved onto other clubs it seems. Might see larger crowds at PHG and VV come April. If this happens, word does get around to the girls. They go where the guys are and vice versa.Also, not too keen on the long zimmer waits from 7-10. On their sister club site (living room) they have a schedule for the food menu for those who find this important. GT essentially serves the same menu.
Look a bit south at Oase, building an addition and increasing the outdoor area. Now if that goes off without an increase and we all see GT's increase come without any improvements everyone will go 'hmmm'. Look to the east at Acapulco and for 35 entry your seeing tons of familiar faces and have a slightly smaller outdoor area (I'd gladly pay more at Aca for better food). Then you have VV and PHG with outdoor pools for the day and longer evening hours for the nightshift. I used to plan my trips around GT. Not anymore. I'll still visit, just not multiple times in a trip.
Maybe the 10 increase to subsidise the 10 discount card they are freely giving to enter their sister club "Living Room".
The cards can be found in every locker when you visit GT.
Not sure if this has been posted, but starting April 1st 60euro entry. Not a big deal for me, but interesting. I sure hope they use the extra 10 euro to get another person to help with the ridiculous long lines for food.
I visited Dolce Vita on Monday 19th for the first time. I can see they are making exceptional changes to the pool and outside cabins.
The place has a classy feel and look to it. The entry still 35 before 8pm and 50there after.
Was quite surprised with the decent lineup on a Monday. About 35 girls and guys totalled 12-15 (you can tell by
Looking at the computer screen behind the bar. It's a tab of each client for the alcoholic drinks)
Look a bit south at Oase, building an addition and increasing the outdoor area. Now if that goes off without an increase and we all see GT's increase come without any improvements everyone will go 'hmmm'. Look to the east at Acapulco and for 35 entry your seeing tons of familiar faces and have a slightly smaller outdoor area (I'd gladly pay more at Aca for better food). Then you have VV and PHG with outdoor pools for the day and longer evening hours for the nightshift. I used to plan my trips around GT. Not anymore. I'll still visit, just not multiple times in a trip.
Nille Copenhagen
03-21-12, 19:25
I visited Dolce Vita on Monday 19th for the first time. I can see they are making exceptional changes to the pool and outside cabins.
The place has a classy feel and look to it. The entry still 35 before 8pm and 50there after.
Was quite surprised with the decent lineup on a Monday. About 35 girls and guys totalled 12-15 (you can tell by
Looking at the computer screen behind the bar. It's a tab of each client for the alcoholic drinks) DV is a nice club, I like it as well, I just don't like the price structure, as I like 1hour+ sessions and then it's more extensive than most NRW clubs.
GT once had a pool but was replace by the eating area.
DV is a nice club, I like it as well, I just don't like the price structure, as I like 1hour+ sessions and then it's more extensive than most NRW clubs.
GT once had a pool but was replace by the eating area.GT never had a pool. They dug a small hole once which was rumored to be for a plunge pool, but it was never completed. Maybe you speak of Happy Garden, which did have a pool in the Nachtbar area, though I never saw it.
Beffen
Nille Copenhagen
03-24-12, 13:35
GT never had a pool. They dug a small hole once which was rumored to be for a plunge pool, but it was never completed. Maybe you speak of Happy Garden, which did have a pool in the Nachtbar area, though I never saw it.
BeffenI didn't saw the pool at GT either.
I've heard it from one of the staff guys, he claimed they didn't got the permission to build a pool. Sounds strange as VV and PHG have a pool.
GT has a waterhole in the end of garden, so it's possible to get wet.
Hessen Bub
03-24-12, 14:33
I always thought the tent where they serve food in GT is standing on something that either was or was meant to be a pool.
HB
I always thought the tent where they serve food in GT is standing on something that either was or was meant to be a pool.
HBYes that is true although the name Pool is an overstatement. It had the size of a Bucket. Problem with a real pool is that although Gt does want to have one the Gemeinde does not allow it.
The indoor pool in PHG is long time ago, but PHG has a nice outdoor pool.
Thursday in GT I also read the announcement that starting April 1 the entrance indeed will be 60E. This is no April 1 Joke.
Just read that VV will also raise Entrance from 50E to 60E!
Thursday in GT I also read the announcement that starting April 1 the entrance indeed will be 60E. This is no April 1 Joke.
Just read that VV will also raise Entrance from 50E to 60E!I did wonder if the other big clubs would also like to raise their entry price but were waiting to see who jumps first. Looks like GT has jumped and the others may follow!
Its also worth noting that although remaining at 50E the effective entry price for Living Room went up by 5E last Summer when they stopped handing out the 5E discount cards at reception when leaving the club.
Its also worth noting that although remaining at 50E the effective entry price for Living Room went up by 5E last Summer when they stopped handing out the 5E discount cards at reception when leaving the club.I am not sure whether they never give these cards anymore, but it is less than in the past that is true.
Although, Thursday in Gt all guests received a 10E discount card for LR.
PussyLiccker
03-25-12, 07:15
I've finally had a chance to check out Golden Time. My experience is mixture of positive and negatives. I'm going to talk about the club's positive traits, and then the negatives.
2 out of the 3 sessions, I have fucked like I have not fucked before at any other FKK clubs (even Oase, which is my favorite place to go). After mongering for a long time, I've become very numb to fucking. I am partially to blame because, I probably made it boring for myself because all I do is fuck from top, have her ride me, or doggy. Got bored of fucking because it was always the same with all the girls. But, after 2 session with the girls at GT, I realized the if the girl knows how to fuck well, it can really excite you. Never have a girl fucked me like the girls at GT. I don't know what the talent scouting process at GT is, but they pick the ones that knows how to fuck really well. Not just fucking, but their performance in all aspects are very exciting, nothing like what I've experienced at other clubs. Also, I think the cabin room adds to the excitement. I can't pinpoint what it is, but I love the smell inside, it smells like fresh wood or something really sweet, and enhances eroticism of the session with the girls. Also, the 2 out of the 3 girls I've enjoyed being with, were great at building up my esteem, it was the way they were talking to me, making me feel really special. One girl, from Moldova, I wasn't attracted to at first glance became more attractive in the room. She had a cute voice and laugh, and loved hearing her cute voice. I must have spent and hour just carrasing and hugging her because she felt so warm. I spent hour and twenty minutes and it only came out to be 125E, because of way they do the pricing or extended time. Also, there was this real cute Hungarian girl with gorgeous eyes that clung to me from the time I've entered the club, and accompanied me for a long time, and didn't give me an attitude for not going to the room with her. I really enjoyed her company, and I wanted to make her my last session, but she was busy when I was ready to go with her.
On to the negatives. For some reason, I started to become more an more uncomfortable sitting in the couches there as time went on. I saw girls I was interested in, approach some guys, and they would lay on top of them, but I didn't have that experience. I felt left out, and made me feel more uncomfortable as time went on. Also, when I went inside the Kino, I saw some girls laying down with a guy, just relaxing with them, not even pressuring them to go to the room. Which I thought was nice, but unfortunately I never had that kind of experience there, so it made me feel even more left out. After while, I started to feel that maybe the girls choose guys they like and spend time with them outside the room? I don't know. Also, I saw many men talking to some of the girls for a long time without even doing a session with them, and as a noobie there, I wasn't sure if girls were genuinely interested in those guys, and talking to them. I didn't get much opportunity to click with a girl in such a manner, so I felt kind a down, because I saw many guys (I think they were all german?) looked to have great chemistry with some of the girls at the bar. Hopefully, it's all in my head, in my next visit, I would feel more welcome there. Do the girls at GT go for German men more? Because I am Asian, and it would be obvious for the girls that I am not German. I forgot to mention that it was on a Friday night, and the place was packed full of men.
Great sex, but not sure if I felt welcomed there like if I was in Oase which is more of an international club. GT seams more of a German style club, focused on pleasing German men first?
Anyway, I like the girls I've sessioned with because they know how to fuck. If there is a scout that work at GT, they definitely pick girls that know how to have sex. I hope next time I feel more welcomed there.
Nille Copenhagen
03-25-12, 20:26
Great sex, but not sure if I felt welcomed there like if I was in Oase which is more of an international club. GT seams more of a German style club, focused on pleasing German men first?
Anyway, I like the girls I've sessioned with because they know how to fuck. If there is a scout that work at GT, they definitely pick girls that know how to have sex. I hope next time I feel more welcomed there.Hi PL.
You are a newbie to the club, so you can't expect to have stamgast (regular) status and it doesn't help you that are a non-white.
Some of these guys are coming in the club every week and spend a lot of money and gifts on the girls so the girls of cause choose to be will them.
I'm not considering myself as a regular but I been there many times and know a numbers of girls.
Once I was chilled out on the couch (for 1h or so) with a girl I knew then she went to the bar and get us something to drink, then a German guy came and ask if she would go with him and she purely reject him and rather stay with me (later I took her to the room). So it's not about German or not, but about how well you know the girls.
NC
it doesn't help you that are a non-whiteDepends what type of non-Caucasian you mean Nille. East Asians do not tend to have any problems and from what I can observe are treated no differently from Caucasians.
I know one or two East Asian guys who visit GoldenTime on a very regular basis and have never had a problem. One guy practically lives in GT.
I have seen problems with the following ethnicities gaining entry: South Asian / South East European / Middle Eastern / African.
Your point about stamgast (regular) status is very well made.
CD
Like the others said, there are a lot of regulars in GT. Think multiple times a week over a period of years, mostly Dutch though; not German. Funny to read about the Moldovan girl, as she. If it's the one I'm thinking of. Used to work in Oase.
Nille Copenhagen
03-26-12, 23:15
Depends what type of non-Caucasian. East Asians do not tend to have any problems and from what I can observe are treated no differently from Caucasians.
I know one or two East Asian guys who visit GoldenTime On a very regular basis and have never had a problem. One guy practically lives in GT.
I have seen problems with the following ethnicities gaining entry: South Asian / South East European / Middle Eastern / African.
Your point about stamgast (regular) status is very well made.
CD
Hi CD,
I'm not discussing who can enter GT.
I'm just trying to explain why PussyLiccker was "left out" and didn't received the GFE couch attention from the girls.
I'm just saying if he was a white guy he would increase his chances.
Paying the girls to be with you is obvious but to get the girls affection and free couch attention requires more from you.
Just like in real life some guys get the girls and some don't.
NC
Just like in real life some guys get the girls and some don't.
NCWHAT? Isn't this the real life? Have I been living in a bubble all this time? .
Nille Copenhagen
03-27-12, 00:32
WHAT? Isn't this the real life? Have I been living in a bubble all this time? .Haven't you seen the Matrix.
PussyLiccker
03-27-12, 00:54
Hi PL.
You are a newbie to the club, so you can't expect to have stamgast (regular) status and it doesn't help you that are a non-white.
Some of these guys are coming in the club every week and spend a lot of money and gifts on the girls so the girls of cause choose to be will them.
I'm not considering myself as a regular but I been there many times and know a numbers of girls.
Once I was chilled out on the couch (for 1h or so) with a girl I knew then she went to the bar and get us something to drink, then a German guy came and ask if she would go with him and she purely reject him and rather stay with me (later I took her to the room). So it's not about German or not, but about how well you know the girls.
NCI am East Asian-American, and unfortunately not white. I want the girls there to be more comfortable with me like the girls at Oase. I hope it's really not because I'm East Asian looking, and hope it's because I've not had a chance to spend time with most of them. Although I like the sex, it would make my experience more enjoyable if a girls comes and lays down on top of me. I know when a girls gets to know me, they get very comfortable with me.
By gifts, what kind of gift do these men give these girls?
Maybe GT is not for me, I don't live in the area so I cannot be a regular. I just want to be a lucky individual with a good GFE there.
Depends what type of non-Caucasian you mean Nille. East Asians do not tend to have any problems and from what I can observe are treated no differently from Caucasians.
I know one or two East Asian guys who visit GoldenTime On a very regular basis and have never had a problem. One guy practically lives in GT.
I have seen problems with the following ethnicities gaining entry: South Asian / South East European / Middle Eastern / African.
Your point about stamgast (regular) status is very well made.
CD
Why do you think they have difficult time gaining entry?
Like the others said, there are a lot of regulars in GT. Think multiple times a week over a period of years, mostly Dutch though; not German. Funny to read about the Moldovan girl, as she. If it's the one I'm thinking of. Used to work in Oase.Does she have a funny with of giving you a BJ? Like a lollypop? I love the way she giggles, and she's got a sweet voice. I like girls like her, very comfortable to be with. Is she a regular for you?
Hi CD,
I'm not discussing who can enter GT.
I'm just trying to explain why PussyLiccker was "left out" and didn't received the GFE couch attention from the girls.
I'm just saying if he was a white guy he would increase his chances.
Paying the girls to be with you is obvious but to get the girls affection and free couch attention requires more from you.
Just like in real life some guys get the girls and some don't.
NCWhat do you mean by being white guy, increase my changes? Is it because GT has more white customers, most girls are not comfortable with East Asians? I know Oase gets a lot of East Asian customers, so maybe they are more comfortable approaching them for GFE?
for the benefit of pussyliccker (and others) , i re-post regarding my gt experience. i believe this discussion is still of interest to fkk mongers, and i believe what i wrote remains relevant. i have not been back to gt and have no plans to return. although, i heard that living room is owned by the same folks but has a whole different feel and atmosphere. i would therefore consider trying lr. here goes:
a time not so golden.
well, i finally made it to the famed golden time! i have to say that so much was right about this place too, especially the price! if i remember correctly, it was 50 euros to get in, and that included all you can drink, even the alcohol! well, i had beer mostly and didn't pay extra for it. in addition to that, they served a tasty dinner outside in this big, comfortable tent. the cook was grilling up pork and beef steaks right there in front of me (you got one of each). plus some tasty veggies / sides.
as far as the sex goes, it was 50 euros for a half hour, and 25 euros extra for cim. a butt fuck was only 50 euros more, and i really liked that part! one thing that i found interesting was that all the girls i was with preferred to do half hour sessions over hour sessions. i would ask why, and they would say that they'd rather do a half hour session, and then go do another half hour session for 50 euros versus do a full hour and only earn an additional 25 euros.
now, that would make sense if the girls were turning tricks like that, but the truth is that very, very few of them are able to keep that kind of steady business going. i asked one how likely it was that she could have back to back customers in a typical hour, and she admitted that it wasn't very likely at all. the truth of the matter is that she would make more money by doing more hour sessions at 75 euros a piece versus hoping to do back-to-back half hour sessions for 100 euros total. oh, there definitely were some who could stay busy enough to turn those back-to-back sessions, but they are definitely in the minority.
i ended up doing four girls during my six hour stay at the club. the first was "estefania", a very tanned romanian girl who looked just like a pretty little latina to me with some very nice titties! she seemed rather cold and aloof at first, but when i got her in the room, she warmed up and did an acceptable job with bbbj and rutting in various positions before i spermed pleasurably inside of her.
then there was cute, fake blond "yanna" from poland. god i love to bone polish babes! they're so sweet and cute and are damn good in bed! yanna was a kisser with lots of lips, and tongue, and saliva. i liked that. she gave me a decent bbbj, and then she did something that both polish and brazilian girls always seem to like to do to me. girl started suckin' on my nuts! hell yes! i don't know why, but it seems like the poles and the brazilians always like to show love to my scrotum sack! don't get me wrong. i'm not complaining. yanna had some good, moist, excited polish pussy. i slammed it home on her missionary-style to finish up our session, and spermed in her good toooooo!
my best fuck of the night was with a spanish girl from barcelona going by "lucia". as soon as i saw her, i knew i had to have her! she was the finest thing in the house according to my personal tastes with long, flowing dark hair, a smile that would just melt my heart (and stiffen my dick!) , and a big, round, bouncy, bubble butt that made a monger drool. lucia has some tattoos, and i know that turns some guys off, but not me. no siree! just makes the girl seem all the nastier and dirtier to me. and some kinda nasty and dirty lucia was too!
awww
man i run all up deep inside that catalonian cornhole of hers baby and just dug her [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) chute out! first doggy-style, and then i got her on her back and scoped her pooty hole out that way too. i looked into her eyes with supreme delight as her pretty face twisted and contorted as she worked to relax her barcelona butthole enough to accept my deep dick probing into her lower colon. we began to swirl our tongues around together while i fucked lucia in the ass. i kept asking her to tell me to fuck her asshole, fuck her asshole. lucia would say it with her spanish-accented english until i couldn't take it anymore and "nutted" with my dick shoved up her arsehole. i told lucia that was one nice "culo gordo" (fat ass) she was sportin'! i fucked one other girl that afternoon / evening ("luanna" from romania) in one of those little cabins outside. she was nice and all, but nothing particularly special to write about. i did slam it to her like a crazed sex addict though! hahaha!
so with that said, you may wonder why i entitled this report "a time not so golden". well, the reason is because although i ultimately did what i love to do the most (butt fuck the hottest girl in the house based on my personal standards) , i found a lot of the girls at this place to be out and out racists! and before anybody tries to defend these girls by saying it wasn't racism, just let me say please! i've lived and experienced long enough to know exactly what was going down. i mean, i'd approach some tute and she would say stuff like she was waiting for somebody (bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!). and then not too long after that you'd see her on the stroll looking for a client and leaving with some other guy. that happened several times. or, maybe the girl wouldn't even acknowledge me at all and just look right through me. and then same thing, you'd see them leaving with some other guy. other guys of all shapes and sizes and so forth. there was only one difference between me and them!
now, it had been a long, long time since i had faced anything like this anywhere in the world with tutes. so long in fact that i still can't remember exactly the last time. but, it was because of this that i ultimately have to give this place a big thumbs down. i had heard about this kind of bullshit at the clubs in this part of germany. i told some of the other girls about it. some expressed surprise. others admitted that some of the girls at golden time were that way. i fully accept that providers have the right to decide who they want as clients. and i, as a dues-paying member monger in good standing, have the right to take my business somewhere else where i will be treated with the respect that is due me, just like any other client in the house. if those tutes don't want my fists full of euros, then i'll stick to the places in and around frankfurt and berlin where i have never experienced any problems of this sort. i might also try the munich area. i hear from germans and non-germans alike that munich is the nicest city in the country with nice people, so it's worth a look.
as i said, there was only one obvious difference between me and the other guys there. it was 100% clear why those tutes weren't offering their services to me. i will add that i had absolutely no problems whatsoever with the staff or any of the other mongering guests. the staff was great, they never gave me any problems regarding being admitted (i had heard that "some types" are refused entry) , and they always attended to me with a smile on their facses. it was just that several of the girls, many of them of ukrainian / russian background (but not all) clearly demonstrated that they did not want my business because of race. but, it's ok! places like oase (where pretty, blue-eyed, blonde steffi's pink, white, ruskie girl arsehole awaits my return) are better anyway! golden time definitely has a decidedly less international, down home, local feel. and it's good that i went on a weekday too since it's really not that big. i can see how it could get so packed that it would be uncomfortable being there. luanna told me that on crowded nights it wasn't uncommon for tutes to service mongers in the toilet rooms, adding an additional layer of filth to the act! hehehe!
i know this club has a lot of fans. i can see why, especially in the summer time. most of you mongers will never quite experience what i experienced there, and it will be fine for you. so go. enjoy. but as i told yanna (the blonde, polish girl who lustily sucked on my nut sack) who i happened to run into as i was heading for the door to leave, i never plan to go to golden time ever again. i mean, so i butt fucked the hottest tute in the house. but, i don't need that "sinister vibe" spinning in the background. i mean, it just kills the mood. if you know what i mean? who needs to be worrying about whether or not this one or that one will fuck me? hell, i can go to "regular" clubs for that! yanna gave me a big hug and a smooch and a smile and said she would be there for me if i decided to come back. i thought to myself,"hey babe, why don't you just quit and move to frankfurt and go work at oase or something? and bring lucia's big, phat ass with you why don't you!" lololol!
Nille Copenhagen
03-27-12, 08:39
I might also try the Munich area. I hear from Germans and non-Germans alike that Munich is the nicest city in the country with nice people, so it's worth a look.Cane I guess you are non-white too, I wouldn't say it's racism, I've seen girls rejected or excuse themselves on white guys that they didn't want to go with. I guess it's fair enough that the girls also can choose themselves, if the chemistry is not there the result would be a poor session. Maybe the club policy grant the girls more freedom here, and that make them more happy and they provide better sex. There plenty girls to choose from so why worry.
P4p in Munich is poor, you will find out.
The 2 good clubs are about 1 hour drive from Munich.
I know Jana from Polen, she grew up in NRW and sees herself as a German. She is also one of my favorites at GT. I tend to spend much time with her, very fun girl. She likes to use red condoms.
NC
Vito Corleone
03-27-12, 23:11
Been visiting this club for years & never experienced any problems. Just last week I was having a great time with a couple of friends & non of us are German, Dutch or white. Also, all the women I sessioned with the past 25 visits since late August last year did not have a prob with 75 hr.
Also, for those of you who like black women there were 10-12 new babes that were not there in late Jan. Samantha the hot Ukranian has returned.
Cane I guess you are non-white too, I wouldn't say it's racism, I've seen girls rejected or excuse themselves on white guys that they didn't want to go with. I guess it's fair enough that the girls also can choose themselves, if the chemistry is not there the result would be a poor session. Maybe the club policy grant the girls more freedom here, and that make them more happy and they provide better sex. There plenty girls to choose from so why worry.
P4p in Munich is poor, you will find out.
The 2 good clubs are about 1 hour drive from Munich.
I know Jana from Polen, she grew up in NRW and sees herself as a German. She is also one of my favorites at GT. I tend to spend much time with her, very fun girl. She likes to use red condoms.
NCSorry mate, but I didn't see happening to other folks what happened to me, and I am VERY observant of my surroundings and what's going on. I know when I'm being discriminated against. You see, I have a lifetime of experience recognizing and dealing with such things. There was only ONE difference between me and the rest. As I have said on this subject before, you can't require any girl to go with somebody she doesn't want to be with, and nor should you ever try to. However, a club does have some control over who it hires and what attitudes will be accepted on its premises. Your statement about me being "non-white" suggests that you are already well versed in this issue, and you know that there is a racial basis for why certain people are treated the way they are at GT.
Quite a while ago, somebody representing to be from Golden Time posted an advertisement here promoting some event of theirs. Given the controversy surrounding this place, other members invited the poster to address concerns about Golden Time and the treatment of customers of varying nationalities, backgrounds, etc. The poster never responded. I for one did not appreciate this club in particular coming into one of the community's threads and touting itself. In my view, that was a clear violation of the forum's rules, and should have been prohibited. And it left an even more bitter taste in my mouth because of the treatment that folks like PussyLiccker, myself, and others have received at GT and have reported on here. It's not just a rumor. It's true.
Now, I gave what I believe to be a fair and balanced report on this subject, and indeed I have no worries my friend. I much prefer the establishments in and around Frankfurt and Berlin that offer better facilities and a hotter line-up of girls to my liking. With regard to Munich, I would only spend a couple of days there just to check it out. Also want to go to Hamburg to check out the FKKs in that area. It's all good! I'm just keeping it real and telling of my experience at GT as it happened. I would add that, as others have mentioned, being a regular would probably make a big difference in how many of the girls would interact with a monger as a potential customer.
Also, it could very well be that more of the racism actually resides in the customer base than in the girls. Meaning that if a regular would not like to see "his" darling with somebody of a group he doesn't like, the girl may very well respect that customer's feelings since he is the regular meal ticket, and not the once and a while tourist such as myself who is just passing through. I acknowledge all of that. BUT, that never has been an issue at Oase, World, Mainhattan, Palace, or Artemis. Only at Golden Time. Hmmmm? But then again, as I noted, Golden Time does seem to have a more local,"down home" feel to it as opposed to be international in flavor like the others.
The one really positive thing I can say about my experience is that the staff was great and treated me splendidly. And no problems whatsoever with any other client there. It was interesting because based on the posts I had read before going to GT, it was the staff that was supposed to be the problem, but that was not my experience at all. Turns out it was a bit too many of the "attitudes" displayed by the girls, which left me feeling less than golden after my one and only visit to Golden Time in the Dusseldorf area. By the way, I remember Jana telling me that she grew up in Germany. Sweet girl. The Polish girls are my favorite in all of Europe. Well, so far anyway as I am still sampling the goods. Haha!
Nille Copenhagen
03-28-12, 07:33
And no problems whatsoever with any other client there. It was interesting because based on the posts I had read before going to GT, it was the staff that was supposed to be the problem, but that was not my experience at all. Turns out it was a bit too many of the "attitudes" displayed by the girls, which left me feeling less than golden after my one and only visit to Golden Time in the Dusseldorf area.You saying that it the girls that has "attitudes" because the local guests (mainly Dutch and German) don't like them to be with stranger / non-white? So the guest segment is the main problem at GT. But then this pattern should be the same for most NRW clubs with a more local client base.
Sorry you that you felt less golden at GT, luckily there are plenty of other clubs that did it for you.
NC
I'm sorry you had a bad experience The Cane And Pussylicker. If this is how you experienced your visit, then you should go skip GT in the future. I personally don't really like the club either, but that's netither here nor there. I do have to point out a flaw in your reasoning. If you truly believe girls should be allowed to choose who to go with, you can't combine that with wanting clubs to make sure they only 'hire' girls that have no such qualms about who to session with. (This also shows some lack of knowledge of the system, as the girls aren't 'hired' by the clubs. They are supposed to be independent). If GT would only 'allow' girls that take on all clients, that effectively forces the girls to take on any client. And don't say they 'should find another job then', if you think all girls are free to quit working at the drop of a hat, you're a bit naive.
I do have the impression that girls refusing clients is more prevalent in GT than in other clubs, but I have mainly seen this happening with older gents or even very normal guys. Sometimes girls are waiting for a regular, sometimes girls don't like a guy (anymore) and sometimes they have already made enough for the day and prefer to just sit their time out. I know of plenty of white guys that have been refused by girls in GT (some persistently so). It is entirely possible that some girl refused you based on your skin color (that this is was what set you appart from the other gents can be read quite clearly between the lines of your previous posts BTW) , and given there are so few non-white guests, it might be easier for girls to keep this up compared to other clubs.
Many girls have preferences about guys and I have had plenty of girls (just as much in Oase and World) be quite crass about non-white guys, just to session with them 10 minutes later. It is about the money after all. Some girls (not in GT BTW) even told me they worked in a particular club because it has such a strict door policy. The biggest reason for clubs to have these policies is that (regular) guests do care about the make up of the male clientele and allowing groups of a certain ethnic background has a tendency to scare regulars away. I don't really care personally, allthough I've seen these 'groups' spoiling the atmosphere, but I know plenty of people who do. The clubs are just maximizing profits and as private clubs, may do so any way they want. You also have little chance of getting in GT if you arrive in a group BTW, because there is bigger a chance you all become drunk and disruptive.
Pussylicker, I've been to GT a few times (very white and Dutch) and have had very few girls come up to me, let alone 'lie on top of me'. GT isn't Oase, Palace or World. Only when girls saw me talking to regulars, who also introduced me to some girls, did they begin to see there was potential in me (as a returning wallet). This works similarly in Oase and World BTW, here being there with a regular can also have its positive effects. Especially when there are long waiting times, girls are likely to spend some time with regulars instead of going after a new guy and then having to wait together for an hour just to make 50 euros. It's better to talk a bit to a guy who is there twice a week and may become her weekly mondaymorning session. The girls aren't machines and sometimes they just don't feel like chasing the 50 euro note, far more likely that they choose someone they know to sit with, than a newby.
Again, I can see why this lessened the experience for you guys, but there are explanation for the how and why (whatever you think of those). You also shouldn't be surprised about GT not responding in this thread, what internetforums is concerned ISG is not a priority for GT (to say the least). Even on more prominent forums, I've never seen GT participate in discussions or whatever. GT is very succesful and a big player in the area, I would be surprised if they'd notice a ISG boycot or whatever. As for controversy, the only widespread GT controversy is the price increase of 10 euros. Aside some small blips hidden away on the interwebs (here) , there is very little controversy about their doorpolicy.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience The Cane And Pussylicker. If this is how you experienced your visit, then you should go skip GT in the future. I personally don't really like the club either, but that's netither here nor there. I do have to point out a flaw in your reasoning. If you truly believe girls should be allowed to choose who to go with, you can't combine that with wanting clubs to make sure they only 'hire' girls that have no such qualms about who to session with. (This also shows some lack of knowledge of the system, as the girls aren't 'hired' by the clubs. They are supposed to be independent). If GT would only 'allow' girls that take on all clients, that effectively forces the girls to take on any client. And don't say they 'should find another job then', if you think all girls are free to quit working at the drop of a hat, you're a bit naive.
Again, I can see why this lessened the experience for you guys, but there are explanation for the how and why (whatever you think of those). You also shouldn't be surprised about GT not responding in this thread, what internetforums is concerned ISG is not a priority for GT (to say the least). Even on more prominent forums, I've never seen GT participate in discussions or whatever. GT is very succesful and a big player in the area, I would be surprised if they'd notice a ISG boycot or whatever. As for controversy, the only widespread GT controversy is the price increase of 10 euros. Aside some small blips hidden away on the interwebs (here) , there is very little controversy about their doorpolicy.Excuse me, but I never said a thing about GT hiring girls who would take on any client. Please read what I wrote. I said that you can't force anybody to go with somebody they don't want to be with, and you shouldn't try to. The point is that the management of a club does have control over what kind of atmosphere will be allowed to go in their establishment however, and as you note, that can start with who is allowed to pass through the doors as a client. The same can be said for which types of girls are allowed to peddle their services in the establishment.
You see, to simply dismiss the issue as "they're independents and we have no control over what they do" is nothing more than a bunch of cop out bullshit. Clubs set rules and girls are asked to leave all the time for violating those rules. If as a club owner somebody wants to affirmatively create a hostile-free environment for a diverse clientele, then they can certainly set that agenda and advise any "free agent" who may not be comfortable with that approach to doing business to take her services somewhere else. Management has that control, and there is no break in my logic on this. You shouldn't force somebody to screw somebody they don't want to, but if their behavior contributes to an overall hostile environment for entire categories of people, and management doesn't want that in their club, then management can deal with it. What that takes is COURAGE, not a bunch of cop outs and avoidance of the issues strategies.
Lastly, nobody has called for any boycotts or said that other people shouldn't go to Golden Time. That would indeed be naive. Again, please read what I wrote in my original post on the matter. I said that most guys would never experience anything like the less than pleasant treatment that some of us have received at GT, for whatever cause. Therefore, they should go and have a good time. But dude don't sit there at your computer and deny that there is some racial discrimination at work at GT just because it doesn't happen to you. That's what discrimination is all about! People who carry certain traits and characteristics receive a certain negative treatment that those without those same characteristics do not experience. That's what discrimination is. And you don't need to advise me on how to handle GT. There are many, many clubs for me to choose from. Golden Time is the only one I know of with this particular reputation. I have only been once and have no plans to go again. And like I said, too bad too because a butt fuck is only 50 euros more. Hahaha!
Cane I guess you are non-white too, I wouldn't say it's racism, I've seen girls rejected or excuse themselves on white guys that they didn't want to go with. I guess it's fair enough that the girls also can choose themselves, if the chemistry is not there the result would be a poor session. Maybe the club policy grant the girls more freedom here, and that make them more happy and they provide better sex. There plenty girls to choose from so why worry.
P4p in Munich is poor, you will find out.
The 2 good clubs are about 1 hour drive from Munich.
I know Jana from Polen, she grew up in NRW and sees herself as a German. She is also one of my favorites at GT. I tend to spend much time with her, very fun girl. She likes to use red condoms.
NCI can just confirm what NC says here. Munich is terrible when it comes to P4P. I've been there and the only thing I regret is that I had no time to go to Augsburg to visit the Colosseum sauna club. Don't know if that is one of the clubs Nille refers to. Needless to say, I was there for work so had little time for any excursions outside Mόnchen!
Regarding the discussion about white vs non-white customers, I agree with Nille. Although you'll find girls that are racists, and I've met some of them (I am white). Some girls just say they don't like Asians, some don't like black, some don't like Arabs etc. But then again I think it all depends if the girl likes you or not! Simple as that. Don't forget she's not employed by the club, but by herself, or by some pimp or "manager" as some of them call them. But I've told girls openly that I prefer that they turn me down if they don't like me instead of going to the room and have a horrible session! Most girls are so money-oriented that they don't care how your looks are, but I am certain that some girls have the luxury of choosing their customers. Just think about how many nice girls you have turned down, just because you have judged them of their looks and first impression! Sometimes I've actually chosen girls that I normally wouldn't go with due to their looks, and I've had some gr8t sessions!
Haven't you seen the Matrix.I had that movie in mind when I was replying!
PussyLiccker
03-28-12, 16:43
I can just confirm what NC says here. Munich is terrible when it comes to P4P. I've been there and the only thing I regret is that I had no time to go to Augsburg to visit the Colosseum sauna club. Don't know if that is one of the clubs Nille refers to. Needless to say, I was there for work so had little time for any excursions outside Mόnchen!
Regarding the discussion about white vs non-white customers, I agree with Nille. Although you'll find girls that are racists, and I've met some of them (I am white). Some girls just say they don't like Asians, some don't like black, some don't like Arabs etc. But then again I think it all depends if the girl likes you or not! Simple as that. Don't forget she's not employed by the club, but by herself, or by some pimp or "manager" as some of them call them. But I've told girls openly that I prefer that they turn me down if they don't like me instead of going to the room and have a horrible session! Most girls are so money-oriented that they don't care how your looks are, but I am certain that some girls have the luxury of choosing their customers. Just think about how many nice girls you have turned down, just because you have judged them of their looks and first impression! Sometimes I've actually chosen girls that I normally wouldn't go with due to their looks, and I've had some gr8t sessions!You bring up some great points sucker. And also, I appreciate Free Dude's reply. I know as a customer, I choose the girl that I am attracted to because I am a client. If you work for a service sector, whether you are a waitress or a sex service worker like the FKK girls, offering services without discrimination is the ideal (or I'm sure pushed as in the case of FKK Oase). I agree that it would be best for me to be with a girl that wants to be with me for better services, but we got to question, can we be sure these girls will honestly tell you they want to have a session with you? You think they actually love you? I have a couple of girls from Oase tell me they love me etc. Money talks, but there will be cases where if a customer is rude or treats the girls in a way it is uncomfortable, it is not right, but it could be reasonable for the girls to not like that race of customers. In the end, we pay the girls for sex, I don't know how honest of an answer you will get if you ask, if she likes you.
I have had frequent visits to Oase, and all the girls I've been with know how I am, so I have no problem getting great services there. There, I know it's not a matter of color of your skin. And, I want to believe that it is so with GT, since I've only visited once. Every FKK I've been to serviced by German locals, have been very courteous and kind to me, and GT staff proves great service without descrimination.
Also regarding statment about these girls being independent, choosing to work at GT on their own. All these girls are screened. A girls told me that they must speak German to work there. That means, not any girls can freely choose to work there. Who knows what other requirements are, and there may be one that condone descrimination. But what we know for sure is, girls get hired, not they are free to choose to work there, and also I've heard girls get fired if they break certain rules there, like sharking the guys etc, although I've seen girls approach guys. So GT has control of what girls can work there.
I want to be positive and think that these girls just haven't experienced great men like me that happens to be from East-Asia. All the girls know me at Oase, and they respect me treat me kindly. I guess I will have to earn that respect, but unfortunately as a frequent customer.
I am East Asian-American, and unfortunately not white. I want the girls there to be more comfortable with me like the girls at Oase. I hope it's really not because I'm East Asian looking, and hope it's because I've not had a chance to spend time with most of them. Although I like the sex, it would make my experience more enjoyable if a girls comes and lays down on top of me. I know when a girls gets to know me, they get very comfortable with me.I am truly sorry to hear about your experiences at GT. I have never been to the club, but it's been on my to-do list for very long. I had the pleasure of meeting you Saturday at Oase in the company of Occultus, PoppMaster and many others from the forum. You told me about your famous roadtrip to NRW. To those who may wonder, I can confirm that PL is clearly not some hideous guy (yeah I'm still straight but I can tell the difference between Brad Pitt and Danny De Vito!) so this must clearly mean that some girls makes their selection based on first impression / race. Let's be honest about it. Hope the rest of your adventures are much better, and hope to see you again.
Also, it could very well be that more of the racism actually resides in the customer base than in the girls. Meaning that if a regular would not like to see "his" darling with somebody of a group he doesn't like, the girl may very well respect that customer's feelings since he is the regular meal ticket, and not the once and a while tourist such as myself who is just passing through.Rubbish. Now its some regular controlling who the girl goes to the room with. Big30's a regular there, he must be guilty by association, tells all the girls in his harem not to go with certain guests. There are regular's who spend tons of money at all the clubs, if this were the case you'd run across this at all the clubs you've visited. It might be the 'big dick' syndrome, the girls know all colored men have huge dicks. That's probably why they didn't go to the room with you, their small pussy's would be torn up. Do I believe this 'big dick' statement? NO, but if your going to post some bullshit statement about regulars controlling who their girls see then I'll post something equally idiotic.
The one really positive thing I can say about my experience is that the staff was great and treated me splendidly. And no problems whatsoever with any other client there. It was interesting because based on the posts I had read before going to GT, it was the staff that was supposed to be the problem, but that was not my experience at all.You might have gotten the right staff to enter on your first visit. Or your cleaner cut than those who got turned away. You don't really know until you re-enter and see different front door / security guards. If you continue to have no issue entering, then your statement about the staff stands. But reports here say the opposite, people of darker skin have trouble getting past the front door.
Nille Copenhagen
03-28-12, 22:10
I have never been to the club, but it's been on my to-do list for very long. You told me about your famous roadtrip to NRW.I'm sure you would like GT. It could be fun if we met on a roadtrip to NRW.
I'll show you the robes, I've visited most of the clubs. GT+VV+LR is a must for me.
Nille Copenhagen
03-28-12, 22:34
I want to be positive and think that these girls just haven't experienced great men like me that happens to be from East-Asia.
I guess I will have to earn that respect, but unfortunately as a frequent customer.Are you saying that because the girls are NOT sitting on your lab and drop at your feet, they don't respect you?
That is nonsense.
I saw girls I was interested in, approach some guys, and they would lay on top of them, but I didn't have that experience. I felt left out, and made me feel more uncomfortable as time went on. Also, when I went inside the Kino, I saw some girls laying down with a guy, just relaxing with them, not even pressuring them to go to the room. Which I thought was nice, but unfortunately I never had that kind of experience there, so it made me feel even more left out.I don't know how old you are, but I find this statement above a bit childish.
Just like you saw another kind eating candy and you cry out "Mama I want that too."
In Asian the opposite ting happens, some Asian girls don't like to fuck white guys or black guys,
In Japan many places don't allow "Gaijin" to enter.
I believe race / appearance has an less impact in the German clubs than in real life.
How many Asian guys have a beautiful white girlsfriend / wife? But in real life many black guys are dating hot girls.
Also, it could very well be that more of the racism actually resides in the customer base than in the girls. Meaning that if a regular would not like to see "his" darling with somebody of a group he doesn't like, the girl may very well respect that customer's feelings since he is the regular meal ticket, and not the once and a while tourist such as myself who is just passing through.Yes this is indeed a correct and true observation, the customer base of GT is well known for being racists. You did some great research, with my compliments.
Having noticed that you made this observation that no one can deny, also I must conclude that all your other observations and conclusions are true.
Regards,
B30
London Traveller
03-28-12, 23:46
So with that said, you may wonder why I entitled this report "A Time Not So Golden". Well, the reason is because although I ultimately did what I love to do the most (butt fuck the hottest girl in the house based on my personal standards) , I found a lot of the girls at this place to be out and out racists! And before anybody tries to defend these girls by saying it wasn't racism, just let me say please! I've lived and experienced long enough to know exactly what was going down. I mean, I'd approach some tute and she would say stuff like she was waiting for somebody (bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!). And then not too long after that you'd see her on the stroll looking for a client and leaving with some other guy. That happened several times. Or, maybe the girl wouldn't even acknowledge me at all and just look right through me. And then same thing, you'd see them leaving with some other guy. Other guys of all shapes and sizes and so forth. There was only one difference between me and them!
Various different girls at GT have done all these same things with me, and more. I have found these behaviours to be more prevalent at GT than other clubs. The girls are experienced and have generally worked at other clubs before ending up at GT. They usually know what they are looking for in a client, and many prefer to have a relatively easy time with little effort expended, as the shifts are long. However, numerous girls there actually are happy to have me as a client, are prepared to put in a bit of effort to make me happy (it doesn't take much. Honest!) and in response I am happy with them and with management at the club, who I have found to be helpful when I have asked them to assist with problems (of a different kind).
Excuse me, but I never said a thing about GT hiring girls who would take on any client. Please read what I wrote. I said that you can't force anybody to go with somebody they don't want to be with, and you shouldn't try to. The point is that the management of a club does have control over what kind of atmosphere will be allowed to go in their establishment however, and as you note, that can start with who is allowed to pass through the doors as a client. The same can be said for which types of girls are allowed to peddle their services in the establishment.One problem with your hypothesis that management is responsible.
None of the girls turned you down. From reading your post. None of them said "no" to you.
Going to get a drink when you ask them for a session. Or even feeding you a bullshit excuse and then finding another man is NOT overt rejection. So there's nothing management can do about this.
Manager: "Hey Lulu. Why did you blow off the black guy and go with that white customer?"
Lulu: "Because I know the other customer, he's a regular, and always pays me obscene amounts of money. I had to pick someone right?"
Manager: "Okay"
LOL. That's all the management can do here. Unless a girl establishes a solid track record as a discriminator. Personally, I think you should not go back to GoldenTime if you feel discriminated against. If indeed it's a problem, then enough people will vote with their feet and something will have to be done.
But for me. I'm now intrigued enough to give GoldenTime a second look for my first visit to an FKK. Just to see what the big deal here is.
Response to Breadman:
What I wrote about the impact that customer attitudes can have on the girls absolutely is not rubbish! Once I was in a club and I actually overheard a group of guys say to a girl,"Well if you will go with a __________ then we don't want your business." Now, I have chosen not to use the offensive, pejorative word here that they said, but I ACTUALLY overheard this with my own ears! It wasn't at GT, and it wasn't even in Germany. But the point is that this sort of thing goes on all the time in clubs, but probably not as blatantly as that. Guys get to know girls, and then they start to spill the truth about their personal prejudices. The girls aren't stupid. If they want that money from that regular paying customer who doesn't want to see them laying down with a certain type, then they very well may act accordingly in order to earn the cash they need. There is nothing far-fetched about this at all. If you believe differently, then it is now my turn to say somebody being naive. I would also note that Big30, whom you used in your example, has agreed with me that this sort of thing goes on even at GT! Nobody should be surprised. We can make more positive change in this world if everybody would at least just acknowledge the truth rather than deny, deny, and deny some more.
Response to Arctic:
Where do I begin? I don't know how you reached the conclusion that no girl turned me down because I clearly said nothing to give that impression. In fact, I believe I indicated quite the opposite (did you read my account?). The facts are that quite a number of the girls said "no" or just simply ignored me with no response or reaction at all. The "look right through him approach." Don't smile or establish any eye contact. Walk in the other direction. Now, it's been a while since my trip, but I remember that I was there for about 6 hours. Normally when I go to a FKK, I don't even have to work hard at banging some of the most beautiful girls in the house, and I don't pursue them! They always step to me. I was at GT for about 2 hours and not a single girl approached me or even smiled at me one time to show any interest. Not ONE. So, I figured that maybe it was the kind of place where girls really don't approach and you have to approach them. Fine, so I started approaching and started getting turned down LEFT and RIGHT. I have NEVER been out right refused by any girl EVER that I wanted at any other FKK I have been to. Not ever. And that's no lie. Now you explain that one to me. I don't go with every girl that I talk to for whatever reason (maybe she doesn't do something I want or I don't like her personality, etc.) , but they otherwise have always at least entertained me as a potential client. But not at GT. In the 6 hours that I was there, I would say that I was rejected out-of-hand by AT LEAST 10 girls. I had to work to get the 4 I did bang! So, you are wrong. And, I'm not operating on just "theory". It's my real world experience at GT. I don't "feel" that I was discriminated against. Man I "know" I was!
With regard to the role of the management in this, what I'm suggesting is that just like with any other business, management sets the tone for what the environment and the atmosphere is going to be like at the establishment. It starts from the top and rolls downwards, and it all really begins with who you hire. If, as the owner, I decide that I want my business to cater to an international clientele, then I need to make sure that the staff that I hire understands that and represents my business by displaying the types of attitudes and images that I want my firm to be seen in by the public. The girls are independent contractors, but if they're on my premises then what they do reflects and impacts upon me as the owner. They have no "right" to be there if I they don't represent how I want my club to be viewed. The solution really is not in the firing but in the screening. If, through the screening process, it is determined that a girl will feel uncomfortable working in a place where clients of various backgrounds and nationalities might desire her services, then perhaps she should be encouraged to offer her talents elsewhere. Of course, before you can get to any of this, the management has to decide that these issues are important enough to it to be addressed. I for one as an owner would not want my business to have the undeniable reputation that GT has regarding this subject. But alas, at least publicly anyway, it does not appear to be of concern to the Golden Time management. Maybe they even like their rep! Who knows.
In any event, I have said my piece on this. I'm going to let those who enjoy going to Golden Time get back to discussing one of their favorite places to monger. Let me know how it turns out!
I will go, coming from Belgium, at the GT tomorrow for the first time.
Just one question : are some girls doing some soft / hard SM?
And if yes, how can I regognize them?
Thanks in advance.
First of all, I know Big30 a little and sometimes he likes to use 'The Sarcasm'.
While it's true that extensive screening is being done by clubs (the ridiculous demand for speaking german for instance) and girls are getting thrown out all the time, this doesn't mean there is no 'consequence' for these girls. Being thrown out makes it more difficult to make money, with all the consequences for the girls. Girls will naturally try to avoid this, so if rejecting people (for whatever reason) might lead there, that effectively takes away their freedom to choose which customers to go with and witch not. I'm not sure you'll catch any prejudice trough screening, since girls are standing in line to work there. In GT this isn't that much of an issue, since it has a reputation (and is fine with that) that non-white might find it hard to get through the front door. There are other clubs with the same reputation, for instance Freude.
Like I said before, I believe your account of the visit and I wouldn't at all be surprised if you were discriminated against. Your solutions through 'Management' however, will affect the girls' freedom to choose, because many have their own 'manager' to satisfy as well. Something we mongerers might want to keep in the back of our heads at times.
Good luck and Happy hunting, luckily there are plenty of clubs about nowadays.
FD
Nille Copenhagen
03-29-12, 13:05
Any conclusion on this discussion?
White guys can fuck and enter the club easily.
For non-white guys, some can enter others can not.
Once entered they can't fuck all the girls, because of a racist customer base, (then the customer base should also be racist against black and Asian girls in the club too, LOL).
Is this discussion a warning to non-white guys not to visit the club, or it's an appeal to the club, girls and customer to accept everybody, like in Oase.
I guess if you have not been discriminated by your look and color, it's hard to understand the feeling behind.
Cheers hope we can get back to some normal reports.
Slow Rammler
03-29-12, 13:55
i started to read the thread in reverse chronological order until i finally came to "the cane's" original post. i should state that i am local and like gt, in particular when the sun is shining. however, the ladies are sometimes surprised when they learn that i am german. i am not sure what they suspect. at other occasions people have thought i might be south-east european. but i had never any problem at gt or any other club.
after reading this.
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man i run all up deep inside that catalonian cornhole of hers baby and just dug her [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) chute out! first doggy-style, and then i got her on her back and scoped her pooty hole out that way too. i looked into her eyes with supreme delight as her pretty face twisted and contorted as she worked to relax her barcelona butthole enough to accept my deep dick probing into her lower colon.
i did slam it to her like a crazed sex addict though! hahaha!i think i understand why the ladies declined the business. isn't it a fair decision that 50 are not enough to subject oneself to such an ordeal?
the girls may not be intellectuals, but they are clever and streetwise, in particular when they can stay in a club like gt. they all have made on occasion very bad experiences with customers. and it belongs to their trade to smell trouble. judging what behavior to the expect from a man is an important survival skill. and i can tell you the ladies talk (and communicate otherwise) to each other about the experience with a guest they just had or may have.
i like that at gt the ladies are more mature than the romanian or bulgarian 19 to 20 year olds with little experience in their business you find in large numbers at other places. the ladies like that at gt they are better respected and have more freedom to make their own decisions than at other places. the management seems to try its best to avoid any chance that troublesome situations may arise. it is willing to turn business away in order to ensure that the atmosphere is relaxed and peaceful at all times. ladies, men and alcohol are an explosive mixture.
just my thoughts.
and isn't it nice that there are many other clubs on the planet.
Did not read the entire post, but I can imgine the experience The Cane had in GT, despite the usual "sarcasm" of B30.
In the frist place, it is known that GT has a "discriminatory door policy". Similar as with Freude 39, it is not easy for non-white people to get in. Of course this is officially not the case (because against the law) , so the usual "tricks" are used, like "we are full" etc. This is especially used when you come in (large) groups. If you are alone, and / or known by the club, chances you can enter rise, but then the second hurdle arises, like The Cane already experienced. Don't know why, but the girls apparantly have their preferences, and this is supported by club management.
I am (whiter than.) white, but have seen more than enough of these examples at the door as well as inside GT. Pity but true. Of course you can fight it, but maybe the best solution is not visiting this club anymore and go to other clubs where these kind of things don't play any role (Samya, Heaven 7, Salome, etc).
Sorry, but I feel I must respond to these two comments.
To Niles Copenhagen:
You say,"Then the customer base should also be racist against black and asian girls in the club too." I was waiting for somebody to say that because it's so predictable. But more importantly than that, it simply is not true! The one does not necessarily follow from the other. You see, it is always the males who are the perceived threat, not the females. Plenty of the customers would like to fuck those women of a different color, but there are some who would rather greedily keep all the goods to themselves and "their kind" for their sole enjoyment.
To Slow Rammler:
Yes, I can have a rather "colorful" way of writing, but the facts are that I have very willing and smiling repeat providers at several clubs within Germany and all other mongering destination that I travel to. As a matter of fact, at EVERY other club I have been to. Anywhere and everywhere. And I always meet new girls thus adding to the stable every single trip. Now why is that? It's because I always treat the girls with respect when I meet them and never cause any trouble for them or anybody else in the club. Not ever. Also, I never do (or even try to do) anything sexually that a girl says she does not like or try to pressure her for some service she would not like to provide. In fact, plenty of the girls request of me that I do certain things to them to satisfy their kinky sexual desires!
Now, the harsh truth is that anytime I have ever seen somebody acting like a fool or a jerk in a club, it's always some white guy who has had too much to drink or who thinks it's funny to run around barely robed and dancing with his bare dick bobbing around all over the place for everybody to see. These are the only "troublemakers" I have ever personally witnessed at a FKK club. Drunks and buffoons. Does that kind of behavior ever get white guys stopped at the door for what another white guy did?
I must say that I find it interesting that as of this writing, you have only 1 post here. Undercover defender of GT maybe? Whoever you are, I would ask that you refrain from using the classic tactic of blaming the recipients of poor treatment for what happened to them. Try walking a mile in somebody else's shoes for a change why don't you? And lastly, I'm quite willing to pay DOUBLE the GT price to plunder those tight young butt holes man since that's the going rate at the other clubs I frequent. As you can see, B30 is not the only one who can use sarcastic humor. Hahaha!
After reading this.
I think I understand why the ladies declined the business. Isn't it a fair decision that 50 are not enough to subject oneself to such an ordeal?
The girls may not be intellectuals, but they are clever and streetwise, in particular when they can stay in a club like GT. They all have made on occasion very bad experiences with customers. And it belongs to their trade to smell trouble. Judging what behavior to the expect from a man is an important survival skill. And I can tell you the ladies talk (and communicate otherwise) to each other about the experience with a guest they just had or may have.
I like that at GT the ladies are more mature than the Romanian or Bulgarian 19 to 20 year olds with little experience in their business you find in large numbers at other places. The ladies like that at GT they are better respected and have more freedom to make their own decisions than at other places. The management seems to try its best to avoid any chance that troublesome situations may arise. It is willing to turn business away in order to ensure that the atmosphere is relaxed and peaceful at all times. Ladies, men and alcohol are an explosive mixture.
Just my thoughts.
And isn't it nice that there are many other clubs on the planet.I agree with you completely. The girls screen us as much as we screen them, and GT girls do a better job. In other clubs, other ethinic groups are also disfavored by the ladies (i.e. Turks and Italians). Usually, there is a very good reason. We must not forget that people have a right to choose who they associate with. It is not inherently discrimination. Just because a lady sells herself, she should retain some control over her body. If we take that away, she is no better than a slave.
I agree with you completely. The girls screen us as much as we screen them, and GT girls do a better job. In other clubs, other ethinic groups are also disfavored by the ladies (i.e. Turks and Italians). Usually, there is a very good reason. We must not forget that people have a right to choose who they associate with. It is not inherently discrimination. Just because a lady sells herself, she should retain some control over her body. If we take that away, she is no better than a slave.I went with 4 girls there, including the sweet Pole / German Jana who a lot of the guys here know and give high marks to as a top provider at GT. Had a great time with her and she welcomed me back again as her client. So what does that say? Is she now all of a sudden "bad" and "lacking in judgment" regarding individual character, as opposed to the ones who turned me down out of clearly nothing more than pure prejudice?
I got to talking to one of the 4 I went with about the regular clientele, and she told me how some regulars like to come in there and hit on the girls and slap them around in the rooms, and how she didn't like that, but that some of the girls did and actually sought those types of regulars out!"Hit me, hit me!" Now if I did something like that, and I have no desire to as it does nothing for me sexually, then some guys would be making "see I told you so" arguments out of that to justify discrimination against whole groups of people who might look like me.
But at the same time, if you have a regular white male who comes in there who likes to slap a girl around to get off, it's OK with no repercussions to himself or anybody else, and nobody says anything about it because he's the "right color", and therefore still welcome? Well, I suppose that if he likes it and SHE likes it too then no problem. So, if I fuck a girl in the ass the way that I like and she likes it too and is not opposed, and indeed welcomes me back as her client, then I ask why is there now a problem? LOL! I don't get it. Actually, I do. The girls at GT aren't better judges of character than the girls at any other club. No siree. Not at all. What far too many of them are is a bunch of racists whose behavior the the GT management and many of the clients there openly condone.
You bring up some great points sucker. And also, I appreciate Free Dude's reply. I know as a customer, I choose the girl that I am attracted to because I am a client. If you work for a service sector, whether you are a waitress or a sex service worker like the FKK girls, offering services without discrimination is the ideal (or I'm sure pushed as in the case of FKK Oase). I agree that it would be best for me to be with a girl that wants to be with me for better services, but we got to question, can we be sure these girls will honestly tell you they want to have a session with you? You think they actually love you? I have a couple of girls from Oase tell me they love me etc. Money talks, but there will be cases where if a customer is rude or treats the girls in a way it is uncomfortable, it is not right, but it could be reasonable for the girls to not like that race of customers. In the end, we pay the girls for sex, I don't know how honest of an answer you will get if you ask, if she likes you.
I have had frequent visits to Oase, and all the girls I've been with know how I am, so I have no problem getting great services there. There, I know it's not a matter of color of your skin. And, I want to believe that it is so with GT, since I've only visited once. Every FKK I've been to serviced by German locals, have been very courteous and kind to me, and GT staff proves great service without descrimination.
Also regarding statment about these girls being independent, choosing to work at GT on their own. All these girls are screened. A girls told me that they must speak German to work there. That means, not any girls can freely choose to work there. Who knows what other requirements are, and there may be one that condone descrimination. But what we know for sure is, girls get hired, not they are free to choose to work there, and also I've heard girls get fired if they break certain rules there, like sharking the guys etc, although I've seen girls approach guys. So GT has control of what girls can work there.
I want to be positive and think that these girls just haven't experienced great men like me that happens to be from East-Asia. All the girls know me at Oase, and they respect me treat me kindly. I guess I will have to earn that respect, but unfortunately as a frequent customer.PussyLicker, like you I'm also East-Asian (from France) and I have visited GT many times since 2005. From my experience, I have always good time in this club, so I believe it's no a matter of color. Any girl can reject a customer because she have no so good (wrong?) feeling about him, to her eyes may be he look rude, dirty, drunk, not fun. But not because of his color.
Take for example famous German Lisa, she look very cold but she is very friendly in the room. I went with her many times but I also saw her to said NO to other East-Asian guys (and two of them are my friends from France) and NO to white guys. I asked her why? She said that is her choice and it not based on color or racism.
I understand that you like girls lay down on top of you. But GT is a crowded club, the girls are there to work, and time is business for them. They may give time with you and lay down on you if you are a regular. Also I known some guys who continue to paid the girls after the room to have a conversation in the sofa all afternoon.
There is a strong Japanese expat community around Dusseldorf and Cologne working on automobile sector, what I heard from them is they are welcome everywhere in FKK clubs.
I went with 4 girls there, including the sweet Pole / German Jana who a lot of the guys here know and give high marks to as a top provider at GT. Had a great time with her and she welcomed me back again as her client. So what does that say? Is she now all of a sudden "bad" and "lacking in judgment" regarding individual character, as opposed to the ones who turned me down out of clearly nothing more than pure prejudice?
I got to talking to one of the 4 I went with about the regular clientele, and she told me how some regulars like to come in there and hit on the girls and slap them around in the rooms, and how she didn't like that, but that some of the girls did and actually sought those types of regulars out!"Hit me, hit me!" Now if I did something like that, and I have no desire to as it does nothing for me sexually, then some guys would be making "see I told you so" arguments out of that to justify discrimination against whole groups of people who might look like me.
But at the same time, if you have a regular white male who comes in there who likes to slap a girl around to get off, it's OK with no repercussions to himself or anybody else, and nobody says anything about it because he's the "right color", and therefore still welcome? Well, I suppose that if he likes it and SHE likes it too then no problem. So, if I fuck a girl in the ass the way that I like and she likes it too and is not opposed, and indeed welcomes me back as her client, then I ask why is there now a problem? LOL! I don't get it. Actually, I do. The girls at GT aren't better judges of character than the girls at any other club. No siree. Not at all. What far too many of them are is a bunch of racists whose behavior the the GT management and many of the clients there openly condone.I have heard enough to make up my mind and so have many on this board. I have been to GT many times with people of different races, and none have the problems you experienced. That must say something.
Honestly, your logic is flawed and your attitude disrespectful to the girls.
I have heard enough to make up my mind and so have many on this board. I have been to GT many times with people of different races, and none have the problems you experienced. That must say something.
Honestly, your logic is flawed and your attitude disrespectful to the girls.I've been all over the world and never treated in the manner that I was at GT (not even close) , including to several clubs in Germany such as Oase, Palace, World, Mainhattan, and Artemis. Others here who have been honest have acknowledged that the hostile environment towards non-whites to which I have referred exists at GT. I didn't make that up. It was already here and a well-known fact before I ever even knew what a Golden Time was and decided to go and see for myself."I've never had a problem anywhere else", I told myself."I know how to act. Why would I have a problem now?" Well, when I got there BOY was that reputation confirmed!
It's always amazing to me how in the face of the evidence people can maintain that there are a 1, 001 reasons for why something is, but that racism surely cannot be one of them. Issues of race, nationality, and religion have played a front and center role in the human experience of mankind on this earth. So why not here and now? Why is it so hard to believe, especially given the reputation of the place? I would much prefer the tact of a Slow Rammler that essentially says "yes it was racism but justified". At least then we would have agreed to place racism on the table as a possible cause for the shabby way in which I and others have been treated at GT, including some who couldn't even get in!
As I said when I first wrote about this many moons ago, my "final solution" is simply to never go to GT again. There are far too many other clubs all over Germany that manage to do what GT apparently cannot figure out how to do, which is to promote an environment where an international clientele is made to feel welcome without the girls feeling like "slaves" who have to fuck anybody and everybody who wants them. Really? Come on man. That says something alright. It speaks VOLUMES about Golden Time as a place of business and anybody who cannot admit that they have a problem there when it comes to people of all backgrounds being treated consistently well and made to feel welcome.
At the end of the day, I don't have to convince you or any other monger. Both my money AND my conduct in any club is as good as yours or better. Otherwise, I wouldn't have all of the repeat providers that I do. Come to think of it, it's the GIRLS I lay down with who actually know anything about me at all as a real person and how I comport myself with them (Jana told me she thinks I'm a nice guy). I don't have to spend a nanosecond convincing any monger who decides he doesn't like the way that I report on my adventures of seeing Europe "through the back door". LOL! No, who I have to convince that I'm worthy of being their client is the girls and the girls only, and from North America to Central America to South America to Europe to the Middle East to Asia (and Africa and Australia if I can get there) brother you better believe that's exactly what I'm going to keep on successfully doing (as long as I can get in that is!). I'm done with this.
The girls at GT aren't better judges of character than the girls at any other club. No siree. Not at all. What far too many of them are is a bunch of racists whose behavior the the GT management and many of the clients there openly condone.This is indeed True. All the girls in GT tend to have a racist based selection procedure. As we all know the GT management are all racists, so are all the cliensts there, I could not agree more!
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DJ Tony will be playing his beats!
Honestly, your logic is flawed and your attitude disrespectful to the girls.
I agree.
B30
This is indeed True. All the girls in GT tend to have a racist based selection procedure. As we all know the GT management are all racists, so are all the cliensts there, I could not agree more!Non GT is absolutely not racist!
But if you are the black man, perhaps is best that you have also the location of Villa Vertigo in your SatNav for when you don't get in.
Nille Copenhagen
03-31-12, 08:07
(Jana told me she thinks I'm a nice guy)She's a sweet girl.
Did you had anal with her too?
She's a sweet girl.
Did you had anal with her too?No, I did not do anal with Jana. She told me that she didn't do that. Lucia was the only one of the four who gave me anal. Do you know if she is still there? A "Lucia"? Claiming to be from Spain but suspected of really being Romanian? Anyway, I met Jana when she smiled at me and I smiled back. She kept smiling but did not come over until I beckoned to her to do so, and we began to talk and get to know each other a bit. In a very nice and non-pushy way, she tried to get me to do a threesome with her and her attractive friend (think the friend may have been of Polish background too) , but I said I really only like one girl at a time. Jana gave outstanding oral (no condom) and sucked my balls very, very well (I've commented before how strange it is to me that Polish and Brazilian girls seem to like to do that a lot). For those of you who like kissing, I found Jana to also be top-notch at DFK. She did not ask for extra money for deep kissing. Not that I would have paid it if she had LOL! If I recall correctly, she even gave me a nice massage. We had sex in multiple positions, and once the "nasty" was done, there was some time left for "pillow talk" and cuddling at the end of our hour session. As I have noted, on my way out I happened to bump into her in the reception area. She gave me a very big smile and a hug and a kiss and told me that she would be there for me should I choose to come back. I give a two thumbs up recommendation to Jana. Also to the beautiful Lucia who was in heavy demand that night, but I don't know if she is still there.
@The Cane.
Let's just end the discussion of this by concluding that you are absolutely correct. And GT Girls, Management, and Customers are all racists.
And let's conclude that you're right. That men of "color" have a hard time at GT.
So maybe you should not return to GT. And stick to the clubs you like who give you good service. There is no reason, however. For others to avoid GT who like it there. Mongering is not about politics, or racial justice, or curing cancer. Mongering is about fucking. And forgetting about serious issues of the day. So if a girl is a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Well, it doesn't bother me if she gives a good GFE because I'm not interested in her politics but in the quality of her blowjob.
I mean. That is really what this comes down to isn't it?
Hopefully we can get back to good reports in this thread because I am seriously considering GT as my first FKK experience. It'll either be GT or OASE. Not sure at this point which. But I am 50 now and might enjoy GT a bit more since I've heard the girls are a bit more mature than the ones at OASE. I'm also not that into "model" looks or "optikfucks" and especially not silicone implants. I prefer a more natural looking girl who is closer to the average and likes to fuck to and cuddle a lot.
Nille Copenhagen
04-02-12, 16:56
I am seriously considering GT as my first FKK experience. It'll either be GT or OASE. Not sure at this point which. But I am 50 now and might enjoy GT a bit more since I've heard the girls are a bit more mature than the ones at OASE. I'm also not that into "model" looks or "optikfucks" and especially not silicone implants. I prefer a more natural looking girl who is closer to the average and likes to fuck to and cuddle a lot.You should go to Bernds, I'm sure you'll have a lot of couch action and cuddle. This place is for the mature audience.
Oi amigo The Cane,
Give GT a second try, I have visited GT with Afrian-French friends and they feel very welcomed.
HungryStud101
04-11-12, 03:02
Hello, All
I will be traveling to Belgium at the end of the month and then I will have the opportunity to spend a long weekend in Europe. I had the time of my life last year at Oase. I spent a weekend there and you couldn't pry the smile off my face with a crowbar. This year I have to make a decission. I can rent a car and drive to Frankfurt or I can spend a few days visiting the clubs that are closer to Belgium such as Golden Time and then head to Milan for my apointment the next Wednesday.
So my questions are the following:
1. How do the clubs adjacent to Belgium compare with Oase and World?
2. How does Golden Time compare to Oase in terms of value, service, session rules, atmosphere, hours, number of girls,
I am trying to decide whether I should stay local or hop in a car and drive over to Frankfurt before heading over to Milan for Wednesday meeting.
From 1st April (and unfortunately its not an April Fool joke) entry went up to 60.
I know, I've paid.
It makes ACA seem even cheaper.
From 1st April (and unfortunately its not an April Fool joke) entry went up to 60.
I know, I've paid.
It makes ACA seem even cheaper.In your opinion, how's was the lineup? How did the lineup compare to the other clubs you visited?
London Traveller
04-21-12, 18:53
From 1st April (and unfortunately its not an April Fool joke) entry went up to 60.
I know, I've paid.
It makes ACA seem even cheaper.The place gets much too crowded. If the extra 10 euros puts some people off visiting. Then it makes a better atmosphere for those who (like me) will be happy to pay the extra.
Nille Copenhagen
04-21-12, 19:15
The place gets much too crowded. If the extra 10 euros puts some people off visiting. Then it makes a better atmosphere for those who (like me) will be happy to pay the extra.The things is the club is popular and have many babes, so I don't think 10 extra makes any different, at least not for me, I'll pay a visit when I'm in the area crowded or not, I just book a babe for 2 hours, secure a room and escape the crowd.
The place gets much too crowded. If the extra 10 euros puts some people off visiting. Then it makes a better atmosphere for those who (like me) will be happy to pay the extra.Highly unlikely 10 euro's will hurt attendance, so you should expect the same crowds as before. If anything, it might bring in more guys, especially in the middle of the week. With a 50 euro entrance at all the clubs, a guy is open to trying out VV and PHG midweek. Now that '50' has crept past the halfway mark of '100', now the guy will think to himself 'I'm better off at GT since they'll have a better selection. Imagine the club being as packed midweek as it is on the weekends, all the sex tourists deciding to forgo a visit to VV / PHG and head towards GT instead. Now you may think this is nonsense, but its exactly what I went thru in my planning for my next trip. Skip VV and PHG and head right to GT. If I'm planning it, others probably are as well.
Nille Copenhagen
04-21-12, 21:17
Highly unlikely 10 euro's will hurt attendance, so you should expect the same crowds as before. If anything, it might bring in more guys, especially in the middle of the week. With a 50 euro entrance at all the clubs, a guy is open to trying out VV and PHG midweek. Now that '50' has crept past the halfway mark of '100', now the guy will think to himself 'I'm better off at GT since they'll have a better selection. Imagine the club being as packed midweek as it is on the weekends, all the sex tourists deciding to forgo a visit to VV / PHG and head towards GT instead. Now you may think this is nonsense, but its exactly what I went thru in my planning for my next trip. Skip VV and PHG and head right to GT. If I'm planning it, others probably are as well.If you thinks this is the case, then go against the stream and visit PHG and VV instead or visit GT early and escape to LR in the evening.
In your opinion, how's was the lineup? How did the lineup compare to the other clubs you visited?The truth of it is that whenever I visit another club around NRW I am disappointed with the comparison. Nowhere else (IMHO) can equal GT in terms of lineup and atmosphere. I have also become more attached to leisurely hours lying in the garden when the weather permits.
I don't want to get into old arguments. I tend to visit during quieter times when GT is less crowded and lesser clubs have a limited lineup. Even so I have had some great evenings once I learned to sit out the early evening rush.
I do not make many postings anymore because I know where I like, and prefer just to visit the clubs I know, like, and where I am liked. My earlier affections for ACA have waned because I get fed up with the lack of interaction with the mainly sedentary girls. ACA does make for a cheap Lazy Sunday though.
The only real alternative to GT in my lust list these days is to visit party night at a weekend at World. The sheer volume of stunningly beautiful naked girls, all seeming to be having a good time is (for me) unbeatable even by GT.
Have Fun,
PL
If you thinks this is the case, then go against the stream and visit PHG and VV instead or visit GT early and escape to LR in the evening.Plover answered it for me "The truth of it is that whenever I visit another club around NRW I am disappointed with the comparison". I'm talking early week (Monday thru wed) visits, I've been to phg early in the week once before and had a hard time selecting one girl. Mind you, this was several years past and we all know lineup's change. After the summer's long gone, then we'll see what happens to this new price increase. Will it stick or will others go back to '50' to try to draw in more guests?
I do not make many postings anymore because I know where I like, and prefer just to visit the clubs I know, like, and where I am liked. My earlier affections for ACA have waned because I get fed up with the lack of interaction with the mainly sedentary girls. ACA does make for a cheap Lazy Sunday though.
PLWasn't asking for a review of the girls you've done, just an overall statement of the club itself. Whatever strikes you as different from the normal. Not sure how Aca differs from GT, the girls sit on couch's at Aca and most of the girls at GT stay on their bar stools. You have a much easier time talking to a girl at Aca than at GT, that's a key in my mind to finding out if you and the girl will click in the room. Your sitting next to the girl at Aca, she turns and gives you her full attention for the 3 minute interview. At GT you walk up to the bar stool and say hi and she as well as the girl's to her left and right swivel to listen in on the conversation.
I do not make many postings anymore because I know where I like, and prefer just to visit the clubs I know, like, and where I am liked.Your postings and words of wisdom are missed in this forum Plover 23 and we are the poorer for not hearing from you more often. Although it is always the quality of the content of your posts rather than the volume which make them worth reading. Many seem to supply posts in great volume but these posts very often contain little content of any real value.
I completely understand what you say about being happy to visit a few clubs on a regular basis where you are known and where you are comfortable. I find myself moving more and more to this same conclusion. Many members of this board, particularly those normally based far from Germany, seem to wander like gypsies from club to club when they do finally visit FKK-Land. In fairness a few (but not many) of these members do this board a great service by reporting back on the clubs which they visit. However, one wonders how well you can know a club if you only visit occasionally. You certainly will find in more difficult to obtain better session prices (particularly in NRW) and also are unlikely to get the same quality of service from the girls. Having a regular status at any of the better clubs has its advantages.
Despite what you say about not posting much, I will nevertheless hope to perhaps place another Plover 23 in the ROD Thread.
CD
Nille Copenhagen
04-22-12, 23:19
The only real alternative to GT in my lust list these days is to visit party night at a weekend at World. The sheer volume of stunningly beautiful naked girls, all seeming to be having a good time is (for me) unbeatable even by GT.
Have Fun,
PLDo not underestimate the party weekends at VV and PHG as a real GT alternative.
Do not underestimate the party weekends at VV and PHG as a real GT alternative.I accept that some of the NRW parties can be fun. I have enjoyed party nights at VV, PHG and also at YY who I think probably started the trend. On the other hand, the parties I have been to at GT, LR and ACA have always seemed more half baked affairs, with the party more of an marketing ploy.
The key word in my sentence was "naked".
The NRW parties are fine from a participatory sense, but as a dirty old man I find the voyeuristic pleasures of seeing a hundred beautiful tight bodied naked girls wiggling their asses irresistable. I don't know how your and others experiences compare, but I have found the NRW party nights fun as an event, but less hot as an erotic experience.
To misquote Kate Moss: "Nothing tastes as good as Naked looks".
Hmmm. Just thinking about those images from memory is causing little pl to stand to attention. I need to organise myself another Saturday night at Pohlheim.
Tell you what, maybe I'll respond to Dan by writing a couple of reports making the comparisons. Thats a good excuse isn't it!
Have Fun,
PL
Nille Copenhagen
04-23-12, 20:07
I accept that some of the NRW parties can be fun. I have enjoyed party nights at VV, PHG and also at YY who I think probably started the trend. On the other hand, the parties I have been to at GT, LR and ACA have always seemed more half baked affairs, with the party more of an marketing ploy.
The key word in my sentence was "naked".
The NRW parties are fine from a participatory sense, but as a dirty old man I find the voyeuristic pleasures of seeing a hundred beautiful tight bodied naked girls wiggling their asses irresistable. I don't know how your and others experiences compare, but I have found the NRW party nights fun as an event, but less hot as an erotic experience.
To misquote Kate Moss: "Nothing tastes as good as Naked looks".
Hmmm. Just thinking about those images from memory is causing little pl to stand to attention. I need to organise myself another Saturday night at Pohlheim.
Tell you what, maybe I'll respond to Dan by writing a couple of reports making the comparisons. Thats a good excuse isn't it!
Have Fun,
PLI agree with you that naked girls make the parties more fun. But since we were discussing GT / NRW alternative, World is just to far away. Then GT alternative would be ACA, VV, SAMYA, PHG on party weekends.
Please your reports are welcome.
Hi, I'm considering visiting GT for the first time on Monday afternoon / evening next week.
Anybody who knows how the line-up of girls are on weekdays?
I'm considering going to YinYang instead but it appears to me that the line-up is quite poor there on weekdays.
I'm considering going to YinYang instead but it appears to me that the line-up is quite poor there on weekdays.The lineup at YY when I visited last on a Saturday was pathetic, can't imagine how bad it is on a weekday. Gorgeous club, love the setup but when you have 70 guys and 20 women, the women have all the control over who they go to the room with. Saw guy after guy getting turned down by the hottest chick that Saturday night, then run off to the room with some young guy who probably was a regular. So if your not young and not a regular at this club, chances of getting turned down increase. But if you like gay sauna's where most of the people are guys, hey its your club. Pay 60 euro's and go to GT where the girls are hotter, the food is better and they have a variety of beer.
Hi, I'm considering visiting GT for the first time on Monday afternoon / evening next week.
Anybody who knows how the line-up of girls are on weekdays?GT on Mondays is fine. You will not expect the extensive line ups of Friday and Saturday but then you do not get the crowds of guys making the place feel like a gay club.
There are even some girls that work midweek and not weekends so you have that benefit as well.
A buddy of mine has a habit of choosing Mondays to visit GT and he always finds something that he likes. This is also my experience too on Mondays and moreso mid week.
Hi Fellows,
I am an anal virgin and am planning on doing anal when on my FKK tour next week Mon-Wed. Can you please recommend the best anal girls here at GT with very hot and clean asses?
You can also PM me if you like.
Thanks guysIn my experience, I find that German girls tend to offer the A option regularly and moreso than other groups. I have my theories on why this is the case which I will not go into here. GT has a good German working girl population. Do a search on this thread for "anal" is a good start.
The line ups do change regularly so names sometimes do not help if they are not there in the club.
Hi Fellows,
I am an anal virgin and am planning on doing anal when on my FKK tour next week Mon-Wed. Can you please recommend the best anal girls here at GT with very hot and clean asses?
You can also PM me if you like.
Thanks guysLucia at GT was a good butt fuck. Very attractive face with a nice, round, bouncy bubble butt. Long, flowing black hair. Said she was from Spain but could very well be Romanian. Has a tattoo if I remember correctly, but that was of no concern to me. A very nice personality and pleasant, smiling girl who let me give her a good anal buggering. Have no idea if she is still there.
The lineup at YY when I visited last on a Saturday was pathetic, can't imagine how bad it is on a weekday. Gorgeous club, love the setup but when you have 70 guys and 20 women, the women have all the control over who they go to the room with. Saw guy after guy getting turned down by the hottest chick that Saturday night, then run off to the room with some young guy who probably was a regular. So if your not young and not a regular at this club, chances of getting turned down increase. But if you like gay sauna's where most of the people are guys, hey its your club. Pay 60 euro's and go to GT where the girls are hotter, the food is better and they have a variety of beer.Thanks for the info Breadman / Yacob,
You made my choice much easier. I definately don't want to go to a "gay club".
I'll try out GT.
Hi, I'm considering visiting GT for the first time on Monday afternoon / evening next week.
Anybody who knows how the line-up of girls are on weekdays?
I'm considering going to YinYang instead but it appears to me that the line-up is quite poor there on weekdays.I went to GT for the first time a few years ago on a summer Saturday. Very busy, most of the sun loungers outside were taken, the smallish lounge was smokey and packed. They had a large number of girls there and I recall having a couple of good 1 hour sessions, but the crowds I didn't like. It sort of put me off going again.
I went recently on a Tuesday, arriving 1pm and staying for 2 1/2 hours. In the lounge I could get a seat, and maybe 20-25 ladies and 15 men in the lounge when I arrived. Generally I thought the age of the ladies was a bit older than Oase / World, which for me is a better thing. I don't think there were any I wouldn't have gone with, apart from a few heavy smokers.
I sessioned with a curly red head Hungarian, can't remember her name, but had a good time although she wasnt in to DFK, but was DATY. Very warm and friendly girl, nice body.
The other was Lee, a Chinese, and we had a quick walk out to one of the log cabins in the cold, more into kissing and definately DATY.
Both ladies spoke decent English and made a good effort in their work and give you a good feeling, instead of just performing the task and taking the money, unlike some (not all) younger girls do. I'll be back, but only on the quieter weekdays I think, it seems a better atomsphere.
Thanks for the info Breadman / Yacob,
You made my choice much easier. I definately don't want to go to a "gay club".
I'll try out GT.Imagine that many man avoid GT because it is Gay Time there many times, especially on thu-fri-sat. If you like a good girl / man ratio, go to Oase (or if you like smaller clubs, Freude).
Nille Copenhagen
05-04-12, 09:56
Actually, yes I want to fuck anal in all the clubs, is that a problem for you? I didn't think so. Please do me a favor and go on the GT thread and look at my question. There were members nice enough to help me.Sorry I can't take you seriously,
You have clearly a take-only attitude.
You have nothing but questions.
Have you contribute with any reports, I repeat again NO!
Nille Copenhagen
05-05-12, 01:38
I'll have reports on 6 or more clubs by next week and I am here to help other members not call them spammers and other names.
None of the stuff you said makes sense and for me this is a case closed. I'm not going to waste any more time with you and I will ignore you from here on.
Good luck in your life buddy!I'm just being directly with you based on the fact that you have only questions and NO reports
And somehow you get insulted.
I look forward to see your reports. Good luck with your anal quests.
Nille Copenhagen
05-05-12, 21:04
17. 5.2012. Father's day special at GT.
Visited GT for the first time "as promised" yesterday (ref. Earlier posting).
The club was quite easy to find and parking was no problem outside. Arrived around 17:30 and noticed quite many cars on the parking lot.
Went inside to pay my 60 Euros for entrance, the lady behind the reception desk asked if this was my first time at GT where I responded "yes" whereafter she showed me how the lockers worked, explained me the prices etc.
She was very helpful and accomodating indeed.
Anyway, I was both exited and very horny so I didn't waste to much time changing to a more comfy outfit. Entering the bar area I got surprised by the number of girls! This seemed really promising.
Had a small walkaround after a beer. Nice place I must say. I noticed a stunning beauty in the bar area and started talking to her.
Her name was Leyla, Turkish and 28 years old. Her English was somehow very limited and my German is bad. But I told her I didn't mind since we could just use the "body language" instead.
Went to a cabin and started the fun. She had the most amazing body with very firm tits and nice lips. Standing behind her on my knees in the bed I oiled her upper body and tits with
Massage oil and licking them which made me rock hard. She gave me the the best BBBJ I ever had. Was so good that I almost passed out!
Went into doggystyle and I squirted shiny oil over her butt when taking her from behind. Took me less than a minute before I just fired of!
My god. She was just fantastic! She normally worked in a FKK in Switzerland she told me and was soon going back.
Later on when I took a shower after the sauna one girls started touching my butt. I normally don't appreciate to "offensive behaviour" but what a hell. I was ready for some more anyway.
We went inside to watch some movie and she started jerking my dick and sucking it in the corner "bed". I didn't feel to comfortable doing this in the videoroom and proposed to go to a cabin.
We ended up right outside in the outside-bed with curtains next to the shower / sauna.
Her name was Lydia from Ukraine. 22 years old.
Small tits but nice hips, I was ready for more fun! She asked me if I wanted to come in her mouth. I thanked no.
The BBBJ was average I would say, she had some strange behaviour of spitting in a paper now and then which was disturbing (perhaps I had to much pre cum).
A little bit to much "performing arts" when we were fucking.
I decided that my 3rd and last girl for the night should be someone with nice racks. I must confess that I just love silicone tits.
Approached a German girl called Lola, from Germany. 25 years old.
She had just the most amazing tits. Very big and very firm. Licked and sucked her tits well and she gave me a very good BBBJ.
Fucked energetic in several positions before I came taking her doggystyle. She was great.
Left the club around 21:30 with a big smile on my face.
The lady in th reception asked if I was satisfied. The answer was YES.
I can safely recommend GT to anyone who hasn't been there. I'm not very experienced but GT raised the bar significantly to anything else I've tried out.
I will definitely go back if I have the chance.
Nice one Eric Ho. Lola amazing. Half Gemran and Italian I think. Short but very attractive facial features.
Visited GT for the first time "as promised" yesterday (ref. Earlier posting).
The club was quite easy to find and parking was no problem outside. Arrived around 17:30 and noticed quite many cars on the parking lot.
Went inside to pay my 60 Euros for entrance, the lady behind the reception desk asked if this was my first time at GT where I responded "yes" whereafter she showed me how the lockers worked, explained me the prices etc.
She was very helpful and accomodating indeed.
Anyway, I was both exited and very horny so I didn't waste to much time changing to a more comfy outfit. Entering the bar area I got surprised by the number of girls! This seemed really promising.
Had a small walkaround after a beer. Nice place I must say. I noticed a stunning beauty in the bar area and started talking to her.
Her name was Leyla, Turkish and 28 years old. Her English was somehow very limited and my German is bad. But I told her I didn't mind since we could just use the "body language" instead.
Went to a cabin and started the fun. She had the most amazing body with very firm tits and nice lips. Standing behind her on my knees in the bed I oiled her upper body and tits with
Massage oil and licking them which made me rock hard. She gave me the the best BBBJ I ever had. Was so good that I almost passed out!
Went into doggystyle and I squirted shiny oil over her butt when taking her from behind. Took me less than a minute before I just fired of!
My god. She was just fantastic! She normally worked in a FKK in Switzerland she told me and was soon going back.
Later on when I took a shower after the sauna one girls started touching my butt. I normally don't appreciate to "offensive behaviour" but what a hell. I was ready for some more anyway.
We went inside to watch some movie and she started jerking my dick and sucking it in the corner "bed". I didn't feel to comfortable doing this in the videoroom and proposed to go to a cabin.
We ended up right outside in the outside-bed with curtains next to the shower / sauna.
Her name was Lydia from Ukraine. 22 years old.
Small tits but nice hips, I was ready for more fun! She asked me if I wanted to come in her mouth. I thanked no.
The BBBJ was average I would say, she had some strange behaviour of spitting in a paper now and then which was disturbing (perhaps I had to much pre cum).
A little bit to much "performing arts" when we were fucking.
I decided that my 3rd and last girl for the night should be someone with nice racks. I must confess that I just love silicone tits.
Approached a German girl called Lola, from Germany. 25 years old.
She had just the most amazing tits. Very big and very firm. Licked and sucked her tits well and she gave me a very good BBBJ.
Fucked energetic in several positions before I came taking her doggystyle. She was great.
Left the club around 21:30 with a big smile on my face.
The lady in th reception asked if I was satisfied. The answer was YES.
I can safely recommend GT to anyone who hasn't been there. I'm not very experienced but GT raised the bar significantly to anything else I've tried out.
I will definitely go back if I have the chance.
Just a quick question:
Does anybody know the answer to this:
Since the Eintritt price hike (from 50e to 60e Entry Fee) , what is the status of the GT / LR combination visit in one day? It used to be: If you paid a 50e entry at GT, you could then request a card from the GT front desk to get you into LR for an additional 25e.
Just wondering what's the deal now? If you enter GT for the new entry fee of 60e, what additional fee is to enter LR on the same day / night?
O
Usually I reserve these days for VV because of party atmosphere. But this time I'd like to try GT on Fri or Sat. What about GT on Fri and Sat? Is that usual days or some sort of party is going on? How packed this location is Fri and Sat evenings? It looks smaller than VV, but even in larger VV waiting time could be more that 1/2 hr.
Since the Eintritt price hike (from 50e to 60e Entry Fee) , what is the status of the GT / LR combination visit in one day? It used to be: If you paid a 50e entry at GT, you could then request a card from the GT front desk to get you into LR for an additional 25e.
Just wondering what's the deal now? If you enter GT for the new entry fee of 60e, what additional fee is to enter LR on the same day / night?
OThe answer is (0. 5*50 + 10)E = 35E.
B30
The answer is (0. 5*50 + 10) E = 35E.
B30Have not been to GT for some months. The session price is still 50 for half. 75 for full hour and 25 for extras? Some girls wanted 100 for 1hr but 75 was club standard. These prices still hold?
This club used to be my destination 3 years back, early in the week was the best time to visit, you'd have 70 chicks and the place would be rockin till 1am. Tuesday at 9pm there was 4 girls on the bar stools and only a few couchs taken. The lineup was ok but not like it was 'back when'. Girls like melissa are hard to find here anymore.
The food is still being catered, wonder if the drop in guests is part of the reason for the price increase? I did hear a guest ask why there was no pool, might also account for a drop in attendance. 60 euros just to enter gt. 65 to get into aca AND get a fuck.
London Traveller
05-27-12, 00:19
Have not been to GT for some months. The session price is still 50 for half. 75 for full hour and 25 for extras? Some girls wanted 100 for 1hr but 75 was club standard. These prices still hold?The prices are the same but there are few girls who will do the one hour for 75 (in my experience anyway). Many girls will only do a half hour, others will want 100 for the hour.
This club used to be my destination 3 years back, early in the week was the best time to visit, you'd have 70 chicks and the place would be rockin till 1am. Tuesday at 9pm there was 4 girls on the bar stools and only a few couchs taken. The lineup was ok but not like it was 'back when'. Girls like melissa are hard to find here anymore.Don't you think that the new Magnum attracts many girls?
Don't you think that the new Magnum attracts many girls?Absolutely not. Gt is the club where girls can make the most money off all clubs in NRW. Magnum is really a great club, when it will attract more guests it will also become more popular for girls to work there.
I do not want to start for the 627384 time a price discussion, but although formally in GT girls are free to determine their prices, GT does not allow that girls ask 100E / hr. That some girls do and some men agree is a different story.
B30
On the day that I visited, the lineup was very week in my opinion. Yes it was a Tuesday but on a previous visit (a Thursday) I found the lineup to be just as lousy. I'm not saying there isn't at all times a handful of girls that you can choose from, what I am saying is that its always the same handful. No variety. Lisa, the good looking blonde with large tits (pierced) was there but turned down a couple of guys because she wanted to relax outside. She wasn't taking bookings for several hours, one good looker off the list. I'm not well versed in what it takes to actually 'work' in goldentime ie be allowed to work at the club. But two very cute girls walked in while I was paying and the front desk lady kicked them out as fast as she could. I've been to World before and I've seen them give new girls a tour of the club and then explain some things at the front desk, I've even seen girls start that same day. So I have to wonder why those two girls didn't at least get a chance? They would have made a killing, one was a hot little blonde and the other a petite spinner. Having new talent come along keeps a club fresh, goldentime felt 'old and stale' seeing the same faces that I've seen there the last 4 years.
As to the pricing, it was never brought up since I couldn't find a girl i was willing to spend an hour with. Hard enough to find one worth spending half an hour. This is exactly how it went: she looks cute but her hips are huge, ohhhh that one has a killer body but her face isn't all that attractive, that one could be my grandmother (god, she's looking my way), will that big girl ever stop eating? Seriously. I remember girls like Candy from several years back, little spinner who wore those knee high red boots (she had model photo's on the internet). There would be 20 cute young girls that would give her a run for her money, lots of choices. I say bring on the cute young girls, let some competition weed out some of these girls who've been around the block a few times. If it wasn't for the free beer and the clubs location to the border, I wonder what might happen had VV located itself a bit closer to GT.
I hadn't paid yet, was tempted to ask the girls as they left where they planned on trying next. Or better yet, invite them back to my hotel.
The prices are the same but there are few girls who will do the one hour for 75 (in my experience anyway). Many girls will only do a half hour, others will want 100 for the hour.The way one girl, Patricia from Poland, explained it me yesterday is that if the wait times are long, she asks for 100E for one hour. If not, she accepts the club norm which is 75E. Somehow that made sense to me. That might even be fair if she spends that wait time cozying up. There are girls who pretend to run fake errands during that wait time, in which case it is really not a plus for us.
Another, Melissa (claims German Persian mix) , super cute face and smile, said it is 100E for her for one hour. She claims long wait times as the reason but does not change even if she gets lucky with the Key.
The last time I was there was two years. There seem to be fewer cute girls this time but still not bad. Facilities are the same. I liked the last chef better.
My first was Marina (German of Ukrainian decent). She is not as slim as I like but she was friendly. She had me with a DFK at intro and case closed. We had fun time. She said we went 5 minutes over and she asked for 75. Which surprised me.
Samya, Turkish (quarter German) girl is so cute. She has a killer smile and endearing laugh. She has small well done fake tits and a great body. She thinks she is too skinny and trying to gain weight which she says is not working. (smile)
I did 30 minutes with her on the out door couches after sunset and it was a great experience. Would like to relive that someday.
The last was Nina from Poland. Not the cutest face but great body, skin and hair. Good personality, smart enough to have deeper level conversation and aimed to please. Hope to repeat for sure. I took Nina outdoor as well and it was quite dark by then. First she was hesitant at first but later admitted that she liked it a lot. She thanked me for showing an area of the club she never visited. (smile)
The way one girl, Patricia from Poland, explained it me yesterday is that if the wait times are long, she asks for 100E for one hour. If not, she accepts the club norm which is 75E. Somehow that made sense to me. That might even be fair if she spends that wait time cozying up. There are girls who pretend to run fake errands during that wait time, in which case it is really not a plus for us.
Another, Melissa (claims German Persian mix) , super cute face and smile, said it is 100E for her for one hour. She claims long wait times as the reason but does not change even if she gets lucky with the Key.Actually does not make all that much sense to me. If the wait for rooms are long, there is more downtime hence more incentive for the girl to get long time in the room which she is more likely to get with 25 for each additional 30 minutes instead of having to wait for long time for next room at 0 per 30 minutes.
Having new talent come along keeps a club fresh, goldentime felt 'old and stale' seeing the same faces that I've seen there the last 4 years.Hi Breadman- This is exactly my opinion- I was last at GT last summer with Akibono and between us we couldn't find one girl to session with- it was a lineup of older washed up same old same old choices. Add that to the queues for food and the zimmer crisis after 10 PM and I'll keep my fond memories of the GT that once was. I am planning a trip at end of July and was debating whether to visit from FFM- now that you say it is the same situation- I'll save my NRW euros for Acapulco.
Cheers,
Beffen
Banana Boi
06-02-12, 19:17
Interesting reports guys. I was a bit surprised to read them since I thought gt was the oase of the nrw region with tons of hot girls. I was planning on making my first visit next month but will have to reconsider which nrw clubs I hit.
Interesting reports guys. I was a bit surprised to read them since I thought gt was the oase of the nrw region with tons of hot girls. I was planning on making my first visit next month but will have to reconsider which nrw clubs I hit.Would not do so! In NRW there can be no discussion about GT by far being the #1 Club in terms of line-up.
Although I am almost a weekly PHG visitor it is true that the GT line-up is more diverse and less Romanian / Bulgarian dominated as in most other clubs in NRW as: LR, PHG, DV, VV and esspecially ACA.
If you do not have the possibillity to visit the clubs in NRW that often I would always advice Gt as the #1 choice. For me currently PHG is now the second best in class. Followed by clubs as Magnum, PSR, Samya and LR. That is my own personal preference, but also my advice if you are not a frequent visitor of the NRW clubs.
ACA is more and more developping as a Penelope 2 which is a club, dominated by Romanian Girls with lousy service, a lot of Turkish Guest, not that clean. Not my cup of thea, actually although I was more than once in Penelope, but I know then what to expect there and also relate this expectation to the entrance and price setting of the girls.
Note, already for many years I have no complaints about the food in GT, no catering actually but live cooking. Wednesday June 12 I will be in Gt to enjoy the club and see Holland win from Germany.
Big, we've been over this before: it's Wednesday 13 June. Eventhough I don't like GT personally, I totally agree with the rest of the post though. The line up in Acapulco looks very good, but service levels are low. If you know a regular he can direct you to the hidden pearls (which definitely exist) , but just off the cuff my score has been pretty abysmal.
Would not do so! In NRW there can be no discussion about GT by far being the #1 Club in terms of line-up.Its a pale comparison of what it used to be. I was outside when they served pizza, walked in 10 minutes past and still managed to get some pizza. My god man. 10 minutes after and I've got pizza in my hands! Once upon a time there would be 60 70 chicks and you'd always see 30 in the main room at all times. Their couldn't have been more than 35 girls working the entire day. And they had to turn away 2 hot young girls wanting to work.
Their couldn't have been more than 35 girls working the entire day.I respect your opinion and view. Although I totally disagree with anyone who claims that in GT on any day what so ever no more than 35 girls would be working there.
Big, we've been over this before: it's Wednesday 13 June. Eventhough I don't like GT personally, I totally agree with the rest of the post though.I did it again! Yes actually now I understand the misunderstanding, it is game # 12, June 13: Holland. Germany.
W. Are. T. GT. Yes there are many others clubs in NRW. Some very good, some good but also some not that good. Basically it will all depends upon your personal preference and taste.
FD is w. Are. T. The clubs in NRW a Freude and ACA fan (or used to be!). Everyone has it's own personal preferences, but my advice for somenone not being able to visit NRW that often is that GT should be the preferred choice.
(Wed June 6, I will be in the club I prefer most!)
Sorry but what a XXXXX editor here! W. Are. T. GT. ??????? Pfff w . r. t .
I respect your opinion and view. Although I totally disagree with anyone who claims that in GT on any day what so ever no more than 35 girls would be working there.Ok, maybe 40 but I highly doubt it got up to 50. There wasn't many girls rushing into a line at dinner, not a whole lot of girls sunning themselves, the stools inside were never 'full', the corner couch's were never in use, didn't see a whole lot of girls leading guys to the lockers, a couch was always available in the main section or a bar stool at the bar, there was never a wait for a room. Seeing all of this thru-out the day is why I gave the count such a low number. I've been visiting the club for years, it just didn't have the feel that it used to have.
I stand firmly by my review, the club feels 'stale'. Very little new 'young' blood working there (although they seem to come in and ask to work). Its possible that being 'a regular' at the clubs you lose focus on the state of the lineup? My focus is 100% on the girls from the moment I set foot in the club, same as Beffen and Akibono. We judge the lineup as we see it. I'm not saying it was 'extremely bad', there just wasn't many girls there that made me think to myself "I really want to fuck that one". I walk into a club like World and Oase and I've got 15 20 girls on my list, I might have had my eye on 5 at Goldentime. I used the club as 'a break' and only did 2 girls, I think that says it all.
I'll ask you this, when was the last time a 'new' girl was working and caused quite a stir with the guests? I remember a story years back of a hot bartender there who had to work on the other side of the bar to make some money and everybody lined up for a poke, when was the last time a new young hottie came onboard?
Ok, maybe 40 but I highly doubt it got up to 50.OK. So you are not sure about the number. 35/40/50 Girls present?
When were you in GT? Which Tuesday or Thursday? Please give me an exact date. Even 50 girls on a Thursday seems to me a very unlikely number.
B30
Made my first visit ever to Golden Time two weekends ago. What a great club in every aspect. The club opened at 1:00, I arrived at 1:04 and got one of the parkingspots just outside the club. Paid my 60E and began my exploration. The club is much smaller then I imagined. But it's extremely well run. Clean, good food, free beer and in every area super good service. The bar-girls was very good looking and friendly. The was a blond girl with a small nose and nice boobs behind the bar that was a true 10. I got a semi-hard on every time I ordered a drink. The girls are a few years older in general then in Samya / Acapulco / LR. And with age comes experience. But the line up was just fine. In my book 80% was more the OK in looks.
My first hour was spent on a sunbed under a tree, drinking coffea and watching the scene. There was a lot of girls to put on the list. One was an asian, tall with very small jeans shorts. The other was an, what I assumed, Romanian girl with a special looking nose and a landing stripe above her pussy. She was very friendly with two guys that was laying on the sun beds next to me.
The foos was excellent. Fresh asparagus with hollandaise, and home grilled steaks with fresh salad and potatoes. One girl from the staff was walking around in the tent serving beers.
After dinner I ran into the the dark haired long girl. Just as I assumed she was romaninan, her name was Adelina. She had spent some time in LR and was pretty fresh in GT if I understood her right.
We had a nice session. She gave me an excellent BJ. She rolled her eyes a little when I switched position for the fifth time, but apart from that gave a stablie service. She's got mixed reports. I guess we clicked or she had a good day, so in my book she's filed under "To repeat".
In the evening the club filled up, but it never got very crowded. The warm weather keept people outside. I sat at a the bar for a while, and got politely approached by some girls. Saw a girl from Samya. Dark hair, round face, glasses, fake boobs (I think) , she is smiling all the time looks a little bit latin. I tried to get eye contact with her in Samya, and I tried here as well. But she dodged my attempts all the time. Well since the club was full of beautiful ladies I gave up that hunt.
The asian girl was constantly booked, but in the evening she entered the bar on her own so I attacked her direct. I got a big smile and we landed in a sofa. Maggy From China. Oh my god. What a session. Super friendly but hardcore. I got myself a one hour treatment (including a lot of oil) that I will remember a long time.
After my session with Maggy I was totally out of steam, juice and power so after a coffea I left GT very satisfied.
T
OK. So you are not sure about the number. 35/40/50 Girls present?
When were you in GT? Which Tuesday or Thursday? Please give me an exact date. Even 50 girls on a Thursday seems to me a very unlikely number.
B30It was Tuesday may 22nd. This was the club to hit early in the week, maybe its now a better option later in the week. Deal with the crowds to get a better lineup.
TheChinaPole
06-20-12, 03:11
Ok. First time. Golden time.
3rd fkk I been to. Hardly experienced. Flying solo.
Saturday night (6pm)
Quite packed. Groups of people which I've never really seen in FKKs. Multiple groups of oriental folks (I'm Chinese. So I notice) and lots of people coming in with friends.
Took my time, got a drink, had some dinner. Headed to the kino.
Maggie (from previous posts) was there. V. Hot but I've had my share of Chinese girls, so wasn't going that way. Hot girl. I didn't like the accent, but it may turn other people on.
Went out to explore.
Tallish German girl, pink bikini standing outside. I saw her there when I went in.
I thought 8/10. I asked 'are you waiting for someone? ' She said, 'You'. Fair enough. Chit chat. Then to room.
Leoni (?) was her name. 21-23 or something. Tattoo lower back. Hot.
To the room. She took off everything. 9/10.
Beautiful tight young body. Perfect not too big boobs. Amazing. 9/10.
She was tanned, solarium style. I likey. Hot. Shaved, v. Well taken care of. Everything was perfect. She didn't speak much english so I told her to speak german as I understood a little. Hot. German girl. She wanted to french kiss me.
Blow job 10/10.
Riding on top of me. Wow. Pornstar exp. 10/10.
Doggy 10/10.
Wanted to fk her more, but my little friend wanted to explode.
Cim. She took it like a pro 10/10.
Took everything I had.
10/10.
Never saw her again. Anyone sessioned with her?
Didn't see anyone else that could follow her. There was a pro typical hot blonde, but it seemed she was working a lot, in and out of the changing rooms more than the cleaner.
Saw a cute brunnette. Emma. Beautiful face, like a hollywood star / famke janssen. Talked. Feisty girl. Just as I expected.
Didn't have anything left in me, but what the heck. Room.
Great BJ, does this teeth thing. Great sex.
No cummage, didn't want to, v. Hard, just no cum. Nevermind.
Emma was great. Only downside, small tits.
Great sex though.
Had a talk with her, she said 'some girls do it 'for real', some don't'.
I guess the first (Leoni) was for real, or a damn good actress. Either way, not bothered for me. Nice to see a girl enjoy it / get into it though (As most men would like to tthink.)
Reading posts, I want to head to erlebniswohnung for a orgy day. Never done a GB though, or fked with other cocks around. Not sure if I could perform. We'll find out soon enough.
Golden time. Awesome time.
Latte was good, pizza was good.
Other than those 2 girls, I'd hesitate on the others. I guess I was lucky to find the first one. Hot.
V. Packed though. Could barely see the girls. Outside was nice, but cold. Would be interesting to fk somone outside.
V. Good, recommended. (comparison: artemis I liked a bit better given the size. Golden time, the 2 girls were awesome.)
The asian girl was constantly booked, but in the evening she entered the bar on her own so I attacked her direct. I got a big smile and we landed in a sofa. Maggy From China. Oh my god. What a session. Super friendly but hardcore. I got myself a one hour treatment (including a lot of oil) that I will remember a long time.
TDoes Maggy have a roundish face, blusher on her cheeks, straight hair put into gentle curls with curling tongs? There was an Asian lady there when I was there last month. Always busy. Maybe next time.
I was there on a Friday, got there around 3pm and the place was filling up quickly. I met Nina from Hungary, tall, very slim, black hair in a bob. Said she came from Buda, so we talked about there for a while. Great performer and a nice to talk to. Decent massage too.
Shortly afterwards fair haired and fair skinned Juliette (iirc) from Russia. Short, cute face, beautifully soft skin with full boobs. I didn't wait long enough after my previous session as the place was now filling up rapidly and I wanted to see her. So after 25 minutes DATY on her, and 20 minutes of sex I realised I wasnt going to come, so suggested we just cuddled. I didn't mind. After 5 minutes of cuddling, her hand found her way down to my dick and some HR / BJ brought me off, to a cheer and a raised fist in celerbration from her. I just collapsed knackered. 10/10 for effort.
After that it was dinner time, ate very well. Lee, another Chinese lady I'd seen my previous visit, asked if I wanted dessert, but I was dead.
Ok. First time. Golden time.
Other than those 2 girls, I'd hesitate on the others. I guess I was lucky to find the first one. Hot.
V. Packed though. Could barely see the girls. Outside was nice, but cold. Would be interesting to fk somone outside.
V. Good, recommended. (comparison: artemis I liked a bit better given the size. Golden time, the 2 girls were awesome.) Nice report.
Doing it outside is awesome, even if it is a bit chilly. I highly recommend it. More and more girls are warming up to it now as the rooms can be quite consistently busy
I spent Thursday and Friday at this club couple weeks ago. I was amazed to see some of the ladies that I met here more than half dozen years ago. The lineup was ok. No one really wowed me. I went to the room twice a day but don't remember all the names.
Evita a 25 yo Slovakia blond about 1. 67 tall and look 7/10. She usually sit near the bar with her Slovakia friend Nicole whom I also went with few years ago. (Nicole provided excellent service back then, but she looks very jaded now.) Evita's been with GT on and off too. So, she's also a long timer. After chatting with her for 5 minutes and didn't see anyone interesting at that time (around 2:30pm) , I decided to try her out. In the room: no DFK, no touching boobs, no DATY, ok BBBJ. (She complained about a Turkish guy biting her sensitive nipples the day before, and her tits were sore, or so she said.) I didn't cum and walked out after 30 min. Would not recommend her for anyone.
Samina a 23 yo mix of Russian-German blond beauty, an 8 in my book. I normally wouldn't go with her since she doesn't provide DFK. I went with her anyway because of her look and good attitude. She's been with the club for couple years but doesn't work there every day. In the room: nice tight body with small natural boobs, around 1. 65m tall without shoes, excellent BBBJ. 69, only little bit of LFK. Her strange behavior of spitting out on a towel in the middle of BBBJ does turn people off little bit. She comforted me by saying that she does it to every guy. I guess. Spent one hour and finished her with CIM.
Melissa a 21 yo mix of German-Iranian brunette about 1. 7 m tall and thin with small boobs. I was so captivated by her gorgeously cute face with irresistible sweet smile. She jokingly said to me that she would do whatever I like, but I sensed there is a catch somewhere. In the room: she asked for 20 Euros tip for DFK. What? I then knew what the catch was whatever I want at an extra price. I hesitantly said yes and went for the passionate DFK. I guess I couldn't resist her cuteness. I finished her in half hour and ended up giving her 20 Euros tip as I agreed to.
I spent Thursday and Friday at this club couple weeks ago. I was amazed to see some of the ladies that I met here more than half dozen years ago. The lineup was ok. No one really wowed me. I went to the room twice a day but don't remember all the names.
Evita a 25 yo Slovakia blond about 1. 67 tall and look 7/10. She usually sit near the bar with her Slovakia friend Nicole whom I also went with few years ago. (Nicole provided excellent service back then, but she looks very jaded now.) Evita's been with GT on and off too. So, she's also a long timer. After chatting with her for 5 minutes and didn't see anyone interesting at that time (around 2:30pm) , I decided to try her out. In the room: no DFK, no touching boobs, no DATY, ok BBBJ. (She complained about a Turkish guy biting her sensitive nipples the day before, and her tits were sore, or so she said.) I didn't cum and walked out after 30 min. Would not recommend her for anyone.
Samina a 23 yo mix of Russian-German blond beauty, an 8 in my book. I normally wouldn't go with her since she doesn't provide DFK. I went with her anyway because of her look and good attitude. She's been with the club for couple years but doesn't work there every day. In the room: nice tight body with small natural boobs, around 1. 65m tall without shoes, excellent BBBJ. 69, only little bit of LFK. Her strange behavior of spitting out on a towel in the middle of BBBJ does turn people off little bit. She comforted me by saying that she does it to every guy. I guess. Spent one hour and finished her with CIM.
Melissa a 21 yo mix of German-Iranian brunette about 1. 7 m tall and thin with small boobs. I was so captivated by her gorgeously cute face with irresistible sweet smile. She jokingly said to me that she would do whatever I like, but I sensed there is a catch somewhere. In the room: she asked for 20 Euros tip for DFK. What? I then knew what the catch was whatever I want at an extra price. I hesitantly said yes and went for the passionate DFK. I guess I couldn't resist her cuteness. I finished her in half hour and ended up giving her 20 Euros tip as I agreed to.Yes. Melissa is gorgeous in my book as well and she knows it. Her service is (was to me) very good but she is known for charming guys into tipping her. I fall for it every time. In the USA, she would be a $500 / hr escort.
Her strange behavior of spitting out on a towel in the middle of BBBJ does turn people off little bit. She comforted me by saying that she does it to every guy. I guess. Spent one hour and finished her with CIM.I noticed this strange behavior at GT as well with two other girls. Had never seen it before or since. What's up with that? Must be a GT thing because I've never experienced it before anywhere else ever. In the entire world. If there's ever any spitting, it's usually all over my dick and not on a towel! What's up with that?
Yes. Melissa is gorgeous in my book as well and she knows it. Her service is (was to me) very good but she is known for charming guys into tipping her. I fall for it every time. In the USA, she would be a $500 / hr escort.Been with Melissa countless times since first meeting her several years ago. Never asked for tips and never got one. Same goes for number of mongering buddies. Might be a recent development. Met her in Acapulco couple of months ago. She has gained some weight, but still a good session.
Agree with Big30 that GT would be my default Number 1 club in NWR for lineup diversity; quality; service; facility and price.
But on several visits. I have personally found the lineup needs replenishing and my visits to Acapulco has been
Exceptional in terms of lineup (mainly Romanians, but bloody attractive ones in the 7; 8 & 8. 5 cat!) and service.
Would not do so! In NRW there can be no discussion about GT by far being the #1 Club in terms of line-up.
Although I am almost a weekly PHG visitor it is true that the GT line-up is more diverse and less Romanian / Bulgarian dominated as in most other clubs in NRW as: LR, PHG, DV, VV and esspecially ACA.
If you do not have the possibillity to visit the clubs in NRW that often I would always advice Gt as the #1 choice. For me currently PHG is now the second best in class. Followed by clubs as Magnum, PSR, Samya and LR. That is my own personal preference, but also my advice if you are not a frequent visitor of the NRW clubs.
ACA is more and more developping as a Penelope 2 which is a club, dominated by Romanian Girls with lousy service, a lot of Turkish Guest, not that clean. Not my cup of thea, actually although I was more than once in Penelope, but I know then what to expect there and also relate this expectation to the entrance and price setting of the girls.
Note, already for many years I have no complaints about the food in GT, no catering actually but live cooking. Wednesday June 12 I will be in Gt to enjoy the club and see Holland win from Germany.
Member #4285
06-30-12, 04:25
Still the standard rates and service? (even if some girls ave their own rates and service). Planing to go back and hope for good weather!
Entrance: 60
30 min: 50
Extra 30 min: 25
CIM: 25
Sex on sunbead / couch in the open air in the garden? (not thiking of the tents or cottages)
PussyLiccker
07-16-12, 13:38
I noticed this strange behavior at GT as well with two other girls. Had never seen it before or since. What's up with that? Must be a GT thing because I've never experienced it before anywhere else ever. In the entire world. If there's ever any spitting, it's usually all over my dick and not on a towel! What's up with that?Spitting is because girls are afraid of bacteria sustaining in their system.
Anyone know if Sandy and Kiri (2 German, Kiri short dark hair, Sandy curvy size 12)
Are still around?
Thanks.
Spitting is because girls are afraid of bacteria sustaining in their system.
Member #4285
07-17-12, 04:39
If I just RTFF like on page 2.
Still the standard rates and service? (even if some girls have their own rates and service)can't wait to get wasted and laid under the hot sun for 5 days in aug.
Smoky Jack
07-17-12, 06:35
I noticed this strange behavior at GT as well with two other girls. Had never seen it before or since. What's up with that? Must be a GT thing because I've never experienced it before anywhere else ever. In the entire world. If there's ever any spitting, it's usually all over my dick and not on a towel! What's up with that?I had that twice on my last trip to Frakfurt FKKs.
Burma Jones
07-20-12, 17:22
I noticed this strange behavior at GT as well with two other girls. Had never seen it before or since. What's up with that? Must be a GT thing because I've never experienced it before anywhere else ever. In the entire world. If there's ever any spitting, it's usually all over my dick and not on a towel! What's up with that?I met a girl who would do this at Parksauna. I asked about it and she said that with all the saliva buildup plus preejaculate, she didn't want to swallow all that several times a day. Plus it meant that she had a towel handy for spitting in after CIM. The real downside was almost grabbing her spit towel to clean up after I had finished DATY. That's a snowball surprise just waiting to happen!
I noticed this strange behavior at GT as well with two other girls. Had never seen it before or since. What's up with that? Must be a GT thing because I've never experienced it before anywhere else ever. In the entire world. If there's ever any spitting, it's usually all over my dick and not on a towel! What's up with that?I have experienced this before at GT. It was unusual to have a girl suck my cock for a bit then spit out all her saliva onto a waiting wad of paper towel then go back to sucking my bare dick. Like you I was thinking she should be spitting on my dick and she did that a bit too. It was the brunette Russian chick with blue eyes and the small tits. I think her name is Natasha or something like that.
When I went with her blond Kazak friend and her for a threesome she did not do the spitting thing. I guess all that hoinking of spit would spoil the mood, also I think she knew me more and trusted me as clean especially as I was a regular of her Kazak friend.
I had this spitting thing before at Oase.
London Traveller
07-29-12, 22:21
Thursday was lovely weather and I spent most of the day lounging in the garden. It had been a while since I visited this club and I didn't see much in the way of new talent. However, an attractive, curvy, pale-skinned redhead came and sunbathed near me. She had a rather English look to her, but I had overheard her say to another guy that she was Polish. After dinner I located her in the bar, Melody is her name. 24, about five feet five without the heels, and we rapidly went off to a room. Her English was adequate for small talk and she kissed me pleasantly on the lips, with a little tongue. She was keen to move on to the usual GT half hour service but I stopped her and asked to go slow, at which she told me that she didn't work for the 25 euro half hour but kept at the 50 euro rate throughout. I agreed and we carried on for three hours. BBBJ was excellent with deep throat. Really talented and she seemed to enjoy pretty much everything we did. She finished off by giving me an excellent massage. Total 300 euros.
Next day, Friday, I found her in the afternoon and booked her for after dinner. We did pretty much the same routine as before except that to start with she brought her dinner in the room, which she polished off quickly, there was a bit less BBBJ, more hand job (this was rather good too) I finished slightly earlier and she asked me to give her a massage before she gave me mine. We were maybe a minute or two under the three hours at the end. Total 300 euros.
Saturday I thought I would try some other girls. First up before dinner was Nelly. 24, a cute A cup brunette from Germany with a lovely gap-toothed grin who spoke excellent English. Very chatty with her friends in the bar, in the room she was soon down to business with a blow job and during sex she was very quiet indeed, not touching me and once she finished the cowgirl positions which she did energetically she hardly moved except when we changed positions. She said that she preferred to be told what to do. She didn't kiss but had a lovely natural body, probably about five feet three tall without the heels. We continued beyond the half hour and I took of the condom to have a bit of a hand job from her. When I suggested more sex she said she was out of condoms and would I mind if she went to get some more. As we were in the furthest cabin from the entrance I wasn't too keen, and asked her what time it was. She said the hour was up. So we left, however my watch showed that we had been in the room for 3/4 hour only. Total 75 euros.
Second up was Martina from Bulgaria. She located me in the Kino where I was sizing up the talent. A slim long haired brunette with smallish boobs and a few tattoos (maybe about five feet four without the heels) she approached me and promised kisses in the room, she had lovely full lips, so off we went. In the room she didn't kiss much, usually avoiding me, and quickly got down to business with an energetic BBBJ moving to 69. This was soon over and she got the condom on for sex. A bit dry at first she refused lube, vigorously massaging herself to produce the natural stuff. She did quite turn me on so the fucking was hard and fast, I finished after about 10 minutes and she quickly got me out of the room. We were in there about 20 minutes in total. When I pointed this out she got a bit shirty. Total 50 euros.
London Traveller
07-30-12, 10:21
To add to my below report, Melody told me that she also does 'A' levels and will do DP as well, although she said that the men have to be fairly well endowed for this (there is a positive report on the French forum). If anyone would like to give her a whirl with me. Just send a PM!
Smoky Jack
07-30-12, 18:30
Thursday was lovely weather and I spent most of the day lounging in the garden. It had been a while since I visited this club and I didn't see much in the way of new talent. However, an attractive, curvy, pale-skinned redhead came and sunbathed near me. She had a rather English look to her, but I had overheard her say to another guy that she was Polish. After dinner I located her in the bar, Melody is her name. 24, about five feet five without the heels, and we rapidly went off to a room. Her English was adequate for small talk and she kissed me pleasantly on the lips, with a little tongue. She was keen to move on to the usual GT half hour service but I stopped her and asked to go slow, at which she told me that she didn't work for the 25 euro half hour but kept at the 50 euro rate throughout. I agreed and we carried on for three hours. BBBJ was excellent with deep throat. Really talented and she seemed to enjoy pretty much everything we did. She finished off by giving me an excellent massage. Total 300 euros.
Next day, Friday, I found her in the afternoon and booked her for after dinner. We did pretty much the same routine as before except that to start with she brought her dinner in the room, which she polished off quickly, there was a bit less BBBJ, more hand job (this was rather good too) I finished slightly earlier and she asked me to give her a massage before she gave me mine. We were maybe a minute or two under the three hours at the end. Total 300 euros.
Saturday I thought I would try some other girls. First up before dinner was Nelly. 24, a cute A cup brunette from Germany with a lovely gap-toothed grin who spoke excellent English. Very chatty with her friends in the bar, in the room she was soon down to business with a blow job and during sex she was very quiet indeed, not touching me and once she finished the cowgirl positions which she did energetically she hardly moved except when we changed positions. She said that she preferred to be told what to do. She didn't kiss but had a lovely natural body, probably about five feet three tall without the heels. We continued beyond the half hour and I took of the condom to have a bit of a hand job from her. When I suggested more sex she said she was out of condoms and would I mind if she went to get some more. As we were in the furthest cabin from the entrance I wasn't too keen, and asked her what time it was. She said the hour was up. So we left, however my watch showed that we had been in the room for 3/4 hour only. Total 75 euros.
Second up was Martina from Bulgaria. She located me in the Kino where I was sizing up the talent. A slim long haired brunette with smallish boobs and a few tattoos (maybe about five feet four without the heels) she approached me and promised kisses in the room, she had lovely full lips, so off we went. In the room she didn't kiss much, usually avoiding me, and quickly got down to business with an energetic BBBJ moving to 69. This was soon over and she got the condom on for sex. A bit dry at first she refused lube, vigorously massaging herself to produce the natural stuff. She did quite turn me on so the fucking was hard and fast, I finished after about 10 minutes and she quickly got me out of the room. We were in there about 20 minutes in total. When I pointed this out she got a bit shirty. Total 50 euros.LT, you played Melody enough to write a concerto. Six hours! Always good to listen to a favorite song a few times on repeat. Thanks for the TR.
First post, though have been to most of the major FKKs in the past, many thanks to all who contribute.
I'm heading over to Dusseldorf in mid-September on business, and will have some time (and a rental car. Deadly combination) Tue-Fri afternoons. Was wondering, to all you NRW veterans, how you would structure your FKK hopping. I've been to GT, VV, Samya, Berndt's and Living Room. Frankly as prisoner of Puritan-land who only comes over 2-3 times per year all made me feel like a Rockstar. You guys don't know (or perhaps you do) how good you have it.
FWIW, my last trip was a couple of months ago, and I only spent one night in each place, but a quick summary:
GT. Great facilities, lots of good looking girls, great food, crappy kino (compared to, say Palace) , very nice outdoors.
VV. Great facilities, lots of good looking girls (heavy to Romanians) , no kino, free internet, very smoky bar. Wait they all have very smoky bars.
Samya. Ok facilities, a few good looking girls (though I met my ATF there) , no kino, very little outdoor space.
Berndt's. Different, in a "glad I went" way, a few girls, a couple cute, great service, cool vibe, small, mediocre facilities, no kino.
LR. Maybe I hit a bad night, but it was mediocre in the girl department, ok kino, ok inside, nice outside but not as much space as VV or GT.
So. Its been a few months, thought I would ask those with more recent experience their thoughts, particularly on what would be good places to go mid-week:
Tuesday. Should be a full on lounge afternoon / evening. Was thinking GT or VV for the outdoor facilities, but have never been to Acupulco.
Wed. Only have a few hours. What is good mid-week?
Thur. Same as Wed.
Fri. Any place particularly interesting on Friday night?
I realize I have yet to contribute, though as mentioned have been to most of the big FKKs and spent a couple interesting nights at Beverly in Solingen. So happy to answer any PMs. But all-in am still but a private in your universe.
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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