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Just to confirm that as per the listing on sexdo, the Andra in those photos is from Romania?The Andra I met was for sure from Romania. 2014 could be the timeframe she started. I don't keep a record or even try to remember all of the ladies I meet in clubs. I will remember some forever.
Ness is one of those. A very nice lady, perfect English and I suspect her German was top quality as well. What I remember most about her, other than a really sensual experience, was the fact that she brought me to one of the most explosive endings ever. I'm not sure what made it so, but it was brought on with oral stimulation. Still today I remember blasting her like a porno money shot. Priceless moment that I wish I had a picture of.
Did she started at GT on 2014?Had one room with blond, new at this time on 2014, Andra when GT casting fell down. Sweet girl. GT had to kick off upselling German gang, 10 German girls and Samira kicked off. Samira. Ro with silicon, long black hair and doll face, Rachel after being sent to LR, and Angelina went back after a while. After 2013, GT casting was up and down, but Hessen which was higher level for looks on 2014/2015/2016 also fell, even had many beauties at Oase in 2019 and wow Tamara at Sharks for 2 week ends on June 2018. But yesterday was Christmas for my eyes with 5 beauties seen in deübendorf, high level casting long time I didn't see.
After 2013, GT casting was up and down, but Hessen which was higher level for looks on 2014/2015/2016 The time you say the lineup was down was pretty good for me. The decline happened with the new law and mandatory registration. For me some of the greats were Ness (German / Armenian), Victoria 170 cm Chinese / Dutch), Kira when she started with red hair, Kim (Romanian with glasses who loved a bit of torture), Larissa the medical student who introduced me to orgasm denial, Chocolate (petite African beauty who loved orgasmus on my tongue), Kelly (African beauty who begged me to give her a pearl necklace), Felicia (Tall Turkish lady coming in at 170 cm, 62 kg but loved to ride me hard and massage my prostate with her tongue), Kitty (we know the story there), Julliette (when I could separate her from the Chinese bottle buyers), Camy (what a beauty even though I had better interactions with her sister Inna).
BigBuddy69
06-28-20, 22:48
This Kitty, did she work in YY? I heard she was the love interest of some creepy stalker.
Many wrote casting was never on same level after 2013, I didn't know before end of 2012 when GT was my first FKK visit and didn't like. So I can only tell casting going up and down, down for my eyes from February 2014 when Rachel. De changed behavior turning to upselling German gang kicked off later, to June 2016 , when Hessen was land of beauties at this time. Summer 2016 was good at GT, then up and down for my eyes. Left many times with no room, went sometimes only to watch ski and eat, planning to move elsewhere after when some clubs are for night, but also having some weekly regulars, but when my best, for my honesty for her behavior for me, not for her sexual potential even she improved a lot her sensuality with me, following me, trusting me so much, but mostly for her exceptional behavior for me, was at LR, when had more chic ones or better performer, but behavior and beauty are the most important for me, when I don t run for hardcore like Pia. De, once even I never give up as she told, was enough for me, I preferred to hide, making laughing one, after, I m more attracted by sweet fresh natural beauties, but none of my GT girls, even weekly regulars, are in my top 5 , highest in my ranking being one who was made at Velbert, with much more rooms at Velbert, even we also had many at GT. From my little experience, GT don t have best looks nor highest level for my love sex, when Romanians are the best for this level of sex, with Russians and Latvians, Belarus, but only very few Germans can compete for this sex, like Rachel when she was fresh, Sandra Sharks, Elena and half German half Ukrainian Fabienne at YY. Even I loved her messages while she was at home for Christmas 2017, better to put right things in right place when I don t send messages to girls to know what they do with pimp at home, even she was fire for sex asking to be given orgasmus and upset when not, but Kity couldn't compete for my love sex at YY, compare to so sweet and pretty Fabienne and real wow for look and in bed Elena for those who were lucky to experience with her, when I got her weekly for months, what was level of YY, not only good foods and rooms with shower, but really high level girls and some interesting part timer. Reason why I wish, when low level casting 6 ens should reopen soon, maybe improving casting with some girls from Germany, but for YY also reopen. For guys who love beautiful women like me, rather than porn plastic dolls or feeling more comfortable with GND, YY NL could be really a high level club, when only beauties motivate my desire. Also from my experience, in any club in any country, princess beauties usually welcome my behavior with women, my eyes are happy since 2 week ends, very complicated for me to go to girls as I explained to wow at Amesia, but still pleasure to taste beauties and what changing behavior turning really passionate after DATY for a angel face so fresh natural beauty, all was to eat. Same everywhere, only places change.
ExpatLover
06-29-20, 15:46
The time you say the lineup was down was pretty good for me. The decline happened with the new law and mandatory registration. For me some of the greats were Ness (German / Armenian), Victoria 170 cm Chinese / Dutch), Kira when she started with red hair, Kim (Romanian with glasses who loved a bit of torture), Larissa the medical student who introduced me to orgasm denial, Chocolate (petite African beauty who loved orgasmus on my tongue), Kelly (African beauty who begged me to give her a pearl necklace), Felicia (Tall Turkish lady coming in at 170 cm, 62 kg but loved to ride me hard and massage my prostate with her tongue), Kitty (we know the story there), Julliette (when I could separate her from the Chinese bottle buyers), Camy (what a beauty even though I had better interactions with her sister Inna).
ExpatLover
06-29-20, 15:49
EL: I met so many 'students' in the club working for their last semester but still there 3 years later, she must have a very long tongue to be able to massage your prostate) take it easy.
Even never had room with her, but Ina was my so lovely, for hot milk on late night, at LR, after my ex left to go to sleep, when we had our 2 rooms on day. For sure, seeing girls face on bar, I was the only guy to ask for hot chocolate or hot milk at GT and LR, when most went for free beer. Sometimes, really pretty face for Ina, when she put her hair glamour. Beautiful natural tits for Cami, but not so pretty face for me.
This Kitty, did she work in YY? I heard she was the love interest of some creepy stalker.I know the waits could be long. Sometimes she was paid to remain a day virgin. One day I booked her and went to take a shower. When I returned another man was cuddled up next to her. He didn't seem happy that she really had another customer. She expressed discomfort when he followed us to the room, even more when ehehmm, he was waiting when we went back to the lockers. She stealthily slipped away to the ladies lockers. When she walked back to the bar she bypassed him, directly to another customer. They smoked and the disappeared. This sequence repeated a few times and then I noticed him leaving the club. Only after that did she manage to relax, eat some food and spend a few minutes lounging between rooms.
It's a shame that GT is still not open. There are many newcomer's.
She expressed discomfort when he followed us to the room, even more when ehehmm, he was waiting when we went back to the lockers. She stealthily slipped away to the ladies lockers. When she walked back to the bar she bypassed him, directly to another customer. They smoked and the disappeared. This sequence repeated a few times and then I noticed him leaving the club.I have no idea what percentage of mongers exhibit stalker tendencies, but I would hope that that most are the harmless, non-violent type that simply don't understand social rules, what is acceptable behavior, and are constantly crossing the "creepy" boundary unawaringly, believing it to be romantic behavior. This could be excessive messages on WA, following WG her entire shift, or engaging in what urban dictionary defines as the stalker stare (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stalk%20Stare). GT tries its best to screen the stalkers out. Perhaps because the front desk is staffed by experienced ex-WGs who recognize the common characteristics found in stalkers:
"Stalkers blur the lines between fact and fiction. They harbor a sense of entitlement that their targets belong to them which feeds the fantasy that they're destined to be together. Some become so convinced, theyll invent details in their head about a romantic relationship that doesn't exist, and theyll be so sure of it, theyre able to convince others."
https://www.joinonelove.org/learn/inside-the-mind-of-a-stalker/
"Most of the stalkers Dr. Kienlen interviewed also had extreme personality disturbances. The most frequent one encountered in stalkers was narcissistic personality disorder, which Dr. Kienlen said gave stalkers an inflated sense of self-worth and an intense need for other people to compliment and idolize them."
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/25/science/researchers-unravel-the-motives-of-stalkers.html
"Galietta says shes also observed that stalkers generally have very narrow interests, very little leisure activity, variable other social interactions; so these tend to be their primary relationships.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k94wj/psychology-of-stalking-treatment
Was he hidden under bed to control performance, if she asked for orgasm, when I remember she did, but she moved too much her body. So lunatic girl, from what she took, when I remember her messages when she was at home with pimp, or with her great friend Barbi, ex GT superstar, but I preferred her when fresh at Bab.
Was he hidden under bed to control performance, if she asked for orgasm, when I remember she did, but she moved too much her body. So lunatic girl, from what she took, when I remember her messages when she was at home with pimp, or with her great friend Barbi, ex GT superstar, but I preferred her when fresh at Bab.He was a little Fella, so he might have managed to sneak into the room and hide under the bed when we weren't looking. You really describe her actions in bed perfectly. It's almost like you were there watching how she got so crazy. Sounds like you knew her much better than me if you were sending lots of messages to her while she was off work.
I have been in a couple trio with Barbie at GT but never could catch her and Kitty at the same time. I think they would have been more likely to kill me than COVID-19.
It's a shame that GT is still not open. There are many newcomer's.Who can blame Germany to protect their people health, trying to control R0, when Swiss don't control ID nor phone number and should not be able to contact many who give false name and phone, if infection. But they should change soon.
I think at 6 ens NL they don t control anything.
Some GT girls work elsewhere.
It's a shame that GT is still not open. There are many newcomer's.I agree. NL, AU, SU. All those three neighbouring countries are now open. NL, AU since July 1st.
The ladies paid taxes, so I hope they receive now some money from Germany. If a massage therapist can open, brothels should open as well.
It is a desaster.
I agree. NL, AU, SU. All those three neighbouring countries are now open. NL, AU since July 1st.
The ladies paid taxes, so I hope they receive now some money from Germany. If a massage therapist can open, brothels should open as well.
It is a desaster.You compare medical massage and brothels where a girl can be fucked by 10 guys, infecting them and they will infect relatives back at home, for risk. Maybe Germany don t want to compete with Trump for record over 130 000 . Today, to enter Freubad. Ch, according to new Swiss law, I was controlled for ID and phone number. Of course, no problem for a bad guy like me, because many very honest gave false name and phone since 6 June Switzerland opened first. Austria opened on 1 July. 6 ens NL is less than 1 hour driving from GT. Maybe some GT girls there, like in Switzerland, or maybe in Austria, maybe Anita and Sissi back in Vienna for 70/30.
Presario1626
07-03-20, 22:19
It's a shame that GT is still not open. There are many newcomer's.Even if it is open now, will you go and take the risk?
I agree. NL, AU, SU. All those three neighbouring countries are now open. NL, AU since July 1st.
The ladies paid taxes, so I hope they receive now some money from Germany. If a massage therapist can open, brothels should open as well.
It is a desaster.WGs pay tax from business income they declare and maybe a bit on entry they pay, so, no tax since mid March, most being in Romania or trying business out of Germany.
Yes, I would take the risks by now. I would avoid certain things. But if massage and physio therapists and dentists are OK, almost everything should be fine. Also normal public sauna's are open BTW.
You can even calculate the risks. There are models. Also covid-folks are only infectious for 7 days. BTW. And 90% of those have elevated temperature / symptoms.
Even if it is open now, will you go and take the risk?
Yes, I would take the risks by now. I would avoid certain things. But if massage and physio therapists and dentists are OK, almost everything should be fine. Also normal public sauna's are open BTW.
You can even calculate the risks. There are models. Also covid-folks are only infectious for 7 days. BTW. And 90% of those have elevated temperature / symptoms.Most infected who were healthy, don't have any symptom nor temperature and don t even know they are infected.
Already 7 rooms with 7 different girls, with usual sex like before, nothing changed much, girls still looking for business, unfortunately 3 left because of lack of business in Switzerland. Same like after German new law, sex remain from what You are with girls.
Was he hidden under bed to control performance, if she asked for orgasm, when I remember she did, but she moved too much her body. So lunatic girl, from what she took, when I remember her messages when she was at home with pimp, or with her great friend Barbi, ex GT superstar, but I preferred her when fresh at Bab.Sorry for my bad English to little cat, not lunatic crazy, even played sometimes a bit in bed, but too moody, becoming boring, compare to so sweet GFE Fabienne, a real GF for sex and even to talk, and wow unlimited potential Elena asking for love. Anyway, 3 are in the past, let s find new dreamed beauty, when moody are boring, I don t drive so long for this.
Most infected who were healthy, don't have any symptom nor temperature and don t even know they are infected.
Already 7 rooms with 7 different girls, with usual sex like before, nothing changed much, girls still looking for business, unfortunately 3 left because of lack of business in Switzerland. Same like after German new law, sex remain from what You are with girls.Some German girls are going for business in Switzerland, to make money to go on holidays. German Swiss love to fuck Germany.
Sorry for my bad English to little cat, not lunatic crazy, even played sometimes a bit in bed, but too moody, becoming boring, compare to so sweet GFE Fabienne, a real GF for sex and even to talk, and wow unlimited potential Elena asking for love. Anyway, 3 are in the past, let s find new dreamed beauty, when moody are boring, I don t drive so long for this.Not the same.
Some German girls are going for business in Switzerland, to make money to go on holidays. German Swiss love to fuck Germany.Some NRW German stars are now at Globe for 140/30, where Mio tour sometimes. Real German team there at the moment.
ExpatLover
07-22-20, 17:24
Reply EL: terrible I am half German and I never go with a German girl, just to listen to their stupid speaking most of the time, is destroying completely my libido.
For sure, German WGs won't compete for Nobel, usually low level of education and heavy background which lead them to prostitution, some claiming to like this job, going with old, fat, uglies, I can't get used when they tell me this. I m happy I just found one a bit interesting to chat with and so pretty face. I had few great like Rachel when she was fresh, or Sam, Sandra at Sharks, Joana at Globe, but Romanian beauties are higher level for me.
The Andra I met was for sure from Romania. 2014 could be the timeframe she started. I don't keep a record or even try to remember all of the ladies I meet in clubs. I will remember some forever.
Ness is one of those. A very nice lady, perfect English and I suspect her German was top quality as well. What I remember most about her, other than a really sensual experience, was the fact that she brought me to one of the most explosive endings ever. I'm not sure what made it so, but it was brought on with oral stimulation. Still today I remember blasting her like a porno money shot. Priceless moment that I wish I had a picture of.I saw her in a private party in Dusseldorf last time. I have still contact to her. Tell me your experiences please has any body else can tell about her and services or old stories. You mean this girl or not?
I saw her in a private party in Dusseldorf last time. I have still contact to her. Tell me your experiences please has any body else can tell about her and services or old stories. You mean this girl or not?Not the Andra. Ro who started at GT on 2014, I was thinking about, even also blond.
You mean this girl or not?For sure not the one I wrote about. The Andra I speak of started slow and sensual, toward the middle of our time she started to figure my likes out. In the end, she kept me on the edge until I was ready to scream with pleasure. Once I popped she snuggled up and gave me a sensual kiss.
140 swfr is the starting price for 30 min? That includes everything I guess. Are there any lower options?
Some NRW German stars are now at Globe for 140/30, where Mio tour sometimes. Real German team there at the moment.
Christian G
07-23-20, 10:26
140 swfr is the starting price for 30 min? That includes everything I guess. Are there any lower options?140 chf for 30 min is the standard price at Globe and includes FK, BBBJ, sex and DATY. CIM and anal are extras.
Plenty of cheaper options than Globe. Sex Park, Olymp, History, Westside, Swiss, Palace, Zeus, Plan be and sure other clubs.
Christian G
07-23-20, 11:59
140 chf for 30 min is the standard price at Globe and includes FK, BBBJ, sex and DATY. CIM and anal are extras.
Plenty of cheaper options than Globe. Sex Park, Olymp, History, Westside, Swiss, Palace, Zeus, Plan be and sure other clubs.I forget New Blue Up on the list.
140 chf for 30 min is the standard price at Globe and includes FK, BBBJ, sex and DATY. CIM and anal are extras.
Plenty of cheaper options than Globe. Sex Park, Olymp, History, Westside, Swiss, Palace, Zeus, Plan be and sure other clubs.Freubad with garden and 2 swimming pools is the most beautiful Swiss club. Also good foods, staff girls speaking french, but they control ID and phone to enter, not a problem for me. Had beauties there for 100/30, Ana on her second day in business was extreme GFE, Vanessa half German half Nigerian was my first black type, for fire in bed. Had 45 passionate minutes for only 100, so when I never do, I did tip her 20 €, didn't have more cash, when she really deserved.
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07-24-20, 00:00
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140 swfr is the starting price for 30 min? That includes everything I guess. Are there any lower options?After working on 140/30 business, I wonder how will work German girls now at Globe, about everything for only 50 at GT as tell girls, when will reopen. One tell about cheap business.
I am ok with 60 or maybe 70 e / 30 m. But everything beyond it. I guess GT could close down. I can get a crazy good meal for 70 e. Why should I risk 140 for some possible only mediocre sex?
So you are suggesting corona kills 90% of the club land? Because many many won't be able to afford this anylonger.
After working on 140/30 business, I wonder how will work German girls now at Globe, about everything for only 50 at GT as tell girls, when will reopen. One tell about cheap business.
I saw her in a private party in Dusseldorf last time. I have still contact to her. Tell me your experiences please has any body else can tell about her and services or old stories. You mean this girl or not?Her club name is Nes or Ness 30+ she was 2014-2015-2016 by Golden Time. I'm looking for some info about her. Skills service and what did you do with her. She will come back to gt I think.
Her club name is Nes or Ness 30+ she was 2014-2015-2016 by Golden Time.The woman in the photo does not look like Ness to me. She was a nice lady, tongue kissed with some but claimed not with all. She gave me the most powerful orgasm of any lady in any FKK. Claimed to be of Armenian descent and that is why she had a big ass. Very nice sensual GFE with me. I repeated several times.
I am ok with 60 or maybe 70 e / 30 m. But everything beyond it. I guess GT could close down. I can get a crazy good meal for 70 e. Why should I risk 140 for some possible only mediocre sex?
So you are suggesting corona kills 90% of the club land? Because many many won't be able to afford this anylonger.My meaning is just: GT German superstar is making 140/30 now at Globe where she is not one of the prettiest nor the busiest. Will she return for everything for 50 business? When GT is much more close to her home than Zurich.
I prefer to pay more expensive for beauty and elegance, when I will never pay and even go for free with around 90% of FKK WGs. At GT, so many times I couldn't find any attractive girl other than Kate.
Freubad with garden and 2 swimming pools is the most beautiful Swiss club. Also good foods, staff girls speaking french, but they control ID and phone to enter, not a problem for me. Had beauties there for 100/30, Ana on her second day in business was extreme GFE, Vanessa half German half Nigerian was my first black type, for fire in bed. Had 45 passionate minutes for only 100, so when I never do, I did tip her 20 , didn't have more cash, when she really deserved.In expensive Switzerland, but cheapest club in FKK land, Olymp Solothurn with entry 10 CHF until 6 pm with good very very red steak, french cookers are not able to cook so red. Unfortunately casting can't compete with steak. Tried Adel 100% Romanian from Craiova on south. A bit pretty face but bad face skin quality, bad silicon tits and not interesting in bed, 0 sensuality. Her conclusion was: You are a pornstar, didn't find anything to answer, when I was not even intense sporty. Good vagina stamina for her. Don t worth 90 CHF, compare to my superb Globe girl for 200 €.
The woman in the photo does not look like Ness to me. She was a nice lady, tongue kissed with some but claimed not with all. She gave me the most powerful orgasm of any lady in any FKK. Claimed to be of Armenian descent and that is why she had a big ass. Very nice sensual GFE with me. I repeated several times.She gets older. But ness still has big hot ass teeny tits and porno face. Did she suck you without condom and took extra or the cumshot on her face? Have you ever fucked her ass anal? If you still want to fuck her I can organize this maybe. Thanks for your information.
Someone knows who that Girl is?
https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5891/i2c5kub4_jpg.htm
Supposedly she sit's around with the German Fraction there.
HammerTime96
08-27-20, 12:05
I was in Germany last week for work, and I was very close to Brueggen so out of pure nostalgia I decided to have a look at GT. It was only a short 10 minute detour, so why the hell not?
When I got to GT, all I saw was the main gate closed, an empty parking area except for one small car and a white van, and two pallets of bricks or tiles near the main entrance. The parking area across the road at the DIY store was also completely empty. A bizar and silent sight, when before it was always busy.
A few minutes before, when driving those familiar roads, I remembered that feeling of "butterflies in my stomach" I always used to have before visiting, thinking and hoping for a good line-up, I remembered the typical sound of the doorbell, the smell of perfume when entering, sometimes seeing the flirty looks from naked girls when they returned from collecting their money in the men's locker room looking for their next customer, the friendly ladies at the reception area, the smokey lounge, ice bears milling around desperately searching for nice girls, the food tent.
Oh boy, good memories from 3-4 years ago came back.
Will it ever open again? And under what absurd conditions? (face masks, vaccine requirements + tracking apps, or even more absurd 'social distancing in a brothel') Who knows.
Maybe a good news, maybe they use this time to make works: private showers for respect for their WGs who attract clients to pay entry. Maybe they read me: when you want to be high level, You have to play high level.
BigBuddy69
08-28-20, 06:13
Maybe they're building some kind of silicon pump to refill the girls quickly.
Sorry for the bad joke! There was a rumor of GT buying Villa Vanilla during the lock down, it sounds like bullshit to me but does someone have any Intel about it?
ExpatLover
08-28-20, 07:40
GT was ever my cup of tea, poor sauna, bar area full of smoke. Mostly pro veteran girls. Probably will never go back.
Maybe a good news, maybe they use this time to make works: private showers for respect for their WGs who attract clients to pay entry. Maybe they read me: when you want to be high level, You have to play high level.Yes, that's possible and I've heard that also at Sharks they are doing some works!
Yes, that's possible and I've heard that also at Sharks they are doing some works!It was just a joke about VIP GT where girls don t have to shower, but I would be happy if they do, when they have plenty of time, for respect for their girls, when Sharks is the club which made the most improvements, with much better garden than GT which can t also compete with Vanila for garden. I also like Baltic dancers coming at Vanilla at 10 pm, not professional for years WGs, not the best performers for technique, but if You speak Russian, You can have a normal woman in bed. Latvian dancer was so lost in bed.
My best club to watch ski, sometimes I only visited for this, then eating and moving to another club where couldn't watch ski, like only Bundesliga 2, sacrificed brother LR. Was also funny when I asked to watch formula 1 and big thanks to guy with remote who was fan of Federer, then NL came to watch with me, joking with some about oranje Maxou. Of course I kept on with Kate at GT, but we had more rooms at Velbert before and if I had 3 of my best girls at LR and my best girl, I didn't find many high level girls at GT, Kate of course and Rachel when she started and was fresh on end of 2013, but lack of Romanian beauties, my best, when I visited. I think my only wow at GT was Rose. De on first time I saw her, I needed few hours to go to her, not understanding why she was not busy, but I returned for her on next day, what a GFE beauty she was at this time, despite pimped cow marked. Funny to hear ex GT girls at Globe: do you think we kissed them for only 50? German WGs telling about German old regulars who didn't go to cry on desk about German girls, but only about Romanians, even some not kissing like Mariana are at GT since many years.
Can also watch ski at VIP room Paradise Stuttgart and at Oceans on one of the TV's by the bar. At phg they can even show it on the massive cinema projector at the diner. Didn't do that when I was there, but they had F1 on instead. The projector isn't the best I've seen though. But it does have size.
Still, the best place to watch sports for me was the Paradise VIP room where me and a few other guys watched F1 once.
Can also watch ski at VIP room Paradise Stuttgart and at Oceans on one of the TV's by the bar. At phg they can even show it on the massive cinema projector at the diner. Didn't do that when I was there, but they had F1 on instead. The projector isn't the best I've seen though. But it does have size.Right, I watched formula 1 on large screen downstairs at PHG, but it was more funny joking with NL who support Maxou when I supported Kimi and they fought at this time. After arrival, we kept on joking in lounge at GT. My worst ever GP, after Ronnie Peterson and Senna deaths, was Austrian GP on 3 July 2016 , a nightmare to keep on concentrating when I saw super sexy Roberta. Ro at Sharks, and nearly at the end of the race, a guy sit with her, fortunately they didn't go, so as soon finished, I went to her, what a room under heat in chalet in garden. Unfortunately, when she came from Switzerland to try Sharks, she didn't stay, but one of my 2 really wow rooms at Sharks. Amazing was, when I was really not a regular, but 6 ens staff found ski Worldcup on a Spanish channel for me, and guy seemed happy to please me, when LR staff played only Bundesliga 2 for friends who didn't even pay entry.
HammerTime96
09-02-20, 14:35
I read on a Dutch forum that the same owner who owns LR and GT has bought another club called Villa Vanilla in Grefrath.
Due to this acquisition, LR is going to be closed due to the many problems with the local left wing feminist mayor, whilst GT will be renovated and reopened when possible, and Villa Vanilla will be renamed GT 2. 0.
No info posted about a possible opening date.
BigBuddy69
09-02-20, 16:47
There have been lots of rumors on this board (the Dutch one) so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt.
If you have the cash, this makes total sense.
A) never a better time to do renovations now. For a great price, since construction is also declining.
B) given the number of insolvencies. Market consolidation. Is happening now. Cologne's Pascha filed for insolvency (kind of US chap 11).
Seemingly prostitution is not a huge factor for corono-transmission, so maybe NRW follows the lead of Berlin.
I read on a Dutch forum that the same owner who owns LR and GT has bought another club called Villa Vanilla in Grefrath.
Due to this acquisition, LR is going to be closed due to the many problems with the local left wing feminist mayor, whilst GT will be renovated and reopened when possible, and Villa Vanilla will be renamed GT 2. 0.
No info posted about a possible opening date.
ExpatLover
09-05-20, 08:13
When you say prostitution is not a spreader for covid, for sure it is a super spreader. It is at very high risk. May be no link but this week covid is skyrocketing in Switzerland, before we get an efficient vaccine I completely will stay how of the P6 scene which is very good for my mental health and finances too. I visited pasha in the 2016/17, really terrible place for me, can t find any young and sexy woman there, inside the building it was so dark and a lot of young guys walking around in small groups with most of them migration background. Always left without any room and decided to forget this place.
A infected WG without symptom, so without knowing, can infect 5/10 clients per day, who will infect other girls and bring back at home to relatives. Not only at GT of course.
Of those mongers just could keep on their FFP3 masks (they can buy at Amazon for 10 e per piece), than this would not happen. When I was at 6 sen it was indeed crazy. With 20 folks wo any masks. Stupid.
I still maintain, that it cant be a large factor - most WG likely got infected already in April-July -
A infected WG without symptom, so without knowing, can infect 5/10 clients per day, who will infect other girls and bring back at home to relatives. Not only at GT of course.
Of those mongers just could keep on their FFP3 masks (they can buy at Amazon for 10 e per piece), than this would not happen. When I was at 6 sen it was indeed crazy. With 20 folks wo any masks. Stupid.
I still maintain, that it cant be a large factor - most WG likely got infected already in April-July -Biggest risk is not other guys, I don't touch or kiss other guys, even some guys seem more interested by guys than girls, but girls who would have been infected by guys before and have no symptom. Nevertheless, had many visits in different clubs since mid June and escorts, and I can still climb with intense effort for hours, even I missed oxygen in blood after no violent ski in high altitude on last Winter.
But of course the other guys are those who infect the ladies. If they would keep their ffp3 / ffp2 masks on during sex, everything would be fine.
Biggest risk is not other guys, I don't touch or kiss other guys, even some guys seem more interested by guys than girls, but girls who would have been infected by guys before and have no symptom. Nevertheless, had many visits in different clubs since mid June and escorts, and I can still climb with intense effort for hours, even I missed oxygen in blood after no violent ski in high altitude on last Winter.
But of course the other guys are those who infect the ladies. If they would keep their ffp3 / ffp2 masks on during sex, everything would be fine.Mask for sex? Are you joking? I tried to run with mask, to put heart on intense effort, to train, but I prefer no sex than with mask.
BigBuddy69
09-10-20, 05:06
If you're OK to have sex with a mask, better to have no sex at all!
It seems GT is one of the few clubs in NRW not re-opening (soon). Fans could visit LR or VV (or many other clubs re-opening now) instead.
BigBuddy69
09-10-20, 16:38
They just announced their reopening but the date is unknown and they advise to go to LR in the meantime.
HammerTime96
09-10-20, 21:49
It seems GT is one of the few clubs in NRW not re-opening (soon). Fans could visit LR or VV (or many other clubs re-opening now) instead.According to the Dutch rumor mill, LR will not be reopened. (see my post below).
HammerTime96
09-10-20, 22:01
They just announced their reopening but the date is unknown and they advise to go to LR in the meantime.As I said, a few weeks ago I noticed a white van and two pallets of bricks-tiles standing near the entrance, so perhaps they are in the middle of renovating and are now rushing to finish and open?
I was in Germany last week for work, and I was very close to Brueggen so out of pure nostalgia I decided to have a look at GT. It was only a short 10 minute detour, so why the hell not?
When I got to GT, all I saw was the main gate closed, an empty parking area except for one small car and a white van, and two pallets of bricks or tiles near the main entrance. I can imagine that these guys were taking it easy, not knowing if or when they would reopen, and now they are like "oh fuck, lets quickly finish the renovations so we can open!
According to the Dutch rumor mill, LR will not be reopened. (see my post below).The other way around: LR will open today (in 2 hours from now) and GT stays closed (for how long. Nobody knows, but don't put your hopes too high).
https://livingroom.de/
It seems GT is one of the few clubs in NRW not re-opening (soon). Fans could visit LR or VV (or many other clubs re-opening now) instead.GT took many Romanians from LR on Summer 2019, now they may send girls to LR, but is Vanila really becoming GT brother? When was brother with PHG and Magnum. I would miss my Latvian dancers at night, or maybe they will move to PHG where kind of discotheque at night.
HammerTime96
09-11-20, 15:53
The other way around: LR will open today (in 2 hours from now) and GT stays closed (for how long. Nobody knows, but don't put your hopes too high).
https://livingroom.de/LR and GT have the same owner, so my guess is that they can not open GT at the moment because I'm speculating that the place is currently being renovated because I saw what looked like indications of construction (white worker's van + pallets of bricks) on the parking lot a few weeks ago.
As far as I know, the owner has not invested a lot in LR, and from what I remember from a few years ago is that the place was a bit of a dump. In such a scenario, it makes sense for the owner of LR and GT to open LR first in order to get the ball rolling and finally start making money, whilst finishing up GT. Once GT is finished, they can (perhaps permanently) shut down LR.
JohnReter335
09-11-20, 20:17
They just announced their reopening but the date is unknown and they advise to go to LR in the meantime.Yeah but they are opening in this week.
How do you know? Which source?
I guess it makes sense. This must have come by surprise. And maybe they already scheduled some renovations for early next week.
Yeah but they are opening in this week.
I called them today. One of the Theke ladies even picked up. But she told me that they plan to open in 2-3 weeks. Meaning Oct 1st or 2nd at the earliest. I went to LR instead. See my report there.
After visiting LR last week twice, I have really enough of those folks who wear a mask indoors just under their chin. See what I mean here: https://dietagespresse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ubahn_maske-768x432.jpg.
What if they is only one under-cover police action, just to check how poorly the legal obligations are enforced and BOOM: they run at risk for easily closing for 4-8 weeks. In the history of the P6 country there are many such local-governmental examples from earlier times.
BTW; the same. Even worse, for Penelope and some other RLD.
I observed 6 sense being much harsher with such violators. Not tolerating this indoors at all.
After visiting LR last week twice, I have really enough of those folks who wear a mask indoors just under their chin. See what I mean here: https://dietagespresse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ubahn_maske-768x432.jpg.
What if they is only one under-cover police action, just to check how poorly the legal obligations are enforced and BOOM: they run at risk for easily closing for 4-8 weeks. In the history of the P6 country there are many such local-governmental examples from earlier times.
BTW; the same. Even worse, for Penelope and some other RLD.
I observed 6 sense being much harsher with such violators. Not tolerating this indoors at all.But staff now working at LR, is from GT, so where is logic? Owner wants his LR to have problems with administration?
There is no logic, they are just being very careless. I am hoping they come to reason. Also I have my doubts that with the swiftly rising numbers, the borders will remain open. The dutch numbers are 5 times worth than the german numbers.
But staff now working at LR, is from GT, so where is logic? Owner wants his LR to have problems with administration?
There is no logic, they are just being very careless. I am hoping they come to reason. Also I have my doubts that with the swiftly rising numbers, the borders will remain open. The dutch numbers are 5 times worth than the german numbers.Even we know LR is not welcome with Kaarst administration, like YY in Roermond, why they are so often controlled, but yes, wish them to manage to stay open, because even my girls are not there anymore, but had so great times. My past little German Globe, when real Globe also fell for casting, even found a charming Romanian on my last visit on Thursday and have to return to taste the miracle looking like a real woman.
I suspect that the heavy construction that is taking place isn't the only reason why GT remains closed. Here my speculation:
A) there are not many top WG available right now. Business simply is slow.
B) because many clients are simply scared. A significant share of them are 60 plus and either from NL or BE. Which have crazy 7 dayP100 K incident rates of 120 or 100 - compare this with 17 from Germany!! That is a 6-7 times difference.
C) and exactly because of that, there is an elevated risk that NL / BE will be redflagged from german authorities. Which requires them to self-quarantine upon entry in a hotel or appartment / rental house. No way they can be seen in a sex club, they could be fined up to 25,000 euro.
There was even a rumour in another board, that the GT doesn't yet have its license back.
Happy to be proven wrong on any of the above.
There was even a rumour in another board, that the GT doesn't yet have its license back.
Happy to be proven wrong on any of the above.Remember the huge riatt (from the tax authorities also) just before C19 closed down all clubs? Don't expect it to re-open soon.
Updated news. With the whole of Belgium and most netherland now red-flagged, (just learned about it here: https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/belgien-reisewarnung-103.html).
This is reason alone not to reopen GT for them and keep LR going, it is better accessible for all the german clients from Dusseldorf, Cologne, Essen, etc.
For each car from NL parked outside of LR, there is an elevated risk of a raid.
I suspect that the heavy construction that is taking place isn't the only reason why GT remains closed. Here my speculation:
A) there are not many top WG available right now. Business simply is slow.
B) because many clients are simply scared. A significant share of them are 60 plus and either from NL or BE. Which have crazy 7 dayP100 K incident rates of 120 or 100 - compare this with 17 from Germany!! That is a 6-7 times difference.
C) and exactly because of that, there is an elevated risk that NL / BE will be redflagged from german authorities. Which requires them to self-quarantine upon entry in a hotel or appartment / rental house. No way they can be seen in a sex club, they could be fined up to 25,000 euro.
There was even a rumour in another board, that the GT doesn't yet have its license back.
Happy to be proven wrong on any of the above.
Updated news. With the whole of Belgium and most netherland now red-flagged, (just learned about it here: https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/belgien-reisewarnung-103.html).
This is reason alone not to reopen GT for them and keep LR going, it is better accessible for all the german clients from Dusseldorf, Cologne, Essen, etc.
For each car from NL parked outside of LR, there is an elevated risk of a raid.If you know a bit about GT and LR, GT became NL land and NL party at LR. Swiss are richer than Germans, but they are not enough to give enough business to Swiss clubs, even rich Zurich is not enough for Globe business, so Germans are not able to give enough business to their brothels.
HammerTime96
10-03-20, 22:59
If you know a bit about GT and LR, GT became NL land and NL party at LR. Swiss are richer than Germans, but they are not enough to give enough business to Swiss clubs, even rich Zurich is not enough for Globe business, so Germans are not able to give enough business to their brothels.Excellent point, that's why IMHO the FKK business model will have a very difficult time to even get back on it's feet if governments start tracking citizens with tracking apps, because many foreign and German customer are very careful about privacy.
When the big masses stay away out of privacy concerns, big FKKs clubs might not be financially viable, because they need to sell a lot of 60-65 Euro entry tickets to pay for sauna, cleaning staff, washing massive amounts of towels and bedlinen, heating in wintertime, drinks, food etcetera.
Banana Boi
10-04-20, 04:21
But certainly I wouldn't dare to go to Sixsense (NL) anylonger. Because on my way back I would have to self-isolate for 10 days.Who is going to monitor this and who is going to know you got lost driving through Aachen and accidentally crossed the border in to Netherlands? There is no border there.
If you know a bit about GT and LR, GT became NL land and NL party at LR. Swiss are richer than Germans, but they are not enough to give enough business to Swiss clubs, even rich Zurich is not enough for Globe business, so Germans are not able to give enough business to their brothels.When much bigger income than small LR with around 10 rooms, must be a good reason not to open GT, with GT staff now working at GT, when many GT regulars who go for GT more than for girls, won t move to LR.
HammerTime96
10-04-20, 16:08
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A) Police.
B) if you accidentally do things, you are still fully accountable. Imagine you accidentally shot your wife. Well it is not murder. But certainly man slaughter.
But you have a point, whether the police really cares is not clear. The german authorities are sometimes really stupid and putting out laws and regulations that no-one can monitor.
BTW: But the USA too, right? I think in many areas oral sex is still forbidden? Even with married couples!
Who is going to monitor this and who is going to know you got lost driving through Aachen and accidentally crossed the border in to Netherlands? There is no border there.
BTW: But the USA too, right? I think in many areas oral sex is still forbidden? Even with married couples!Really? Didn't know. Now I understand why my wives never gave me a BJ. They don't want to break the law. Totally makes sense.
Going forward I will never partake in DATY or BBBJ in USA. Pinky promise.
When much bigger income than small LR with around 10 rooms, must be a good reason not to open GT, with GT staff now working at GT, when many GT regulars who go for GT more than for girls, won t move to LR.Correction: GT staff now working at small LR, with GT remaining closed. Claimed Italian ex Samya, blond with very small tits, now with shorter but real hair Valeria working at LR. Tattooed silicon Melika. De back. Even extreme hardcore sex Pia. De moving to LR. After our room at GT, I did hide when seeing her, one who witnessed on the discovery day, laughed when seeing her and me avoiding her.
Double-checked: the province Limburg (in which 6 sense is) is exempt from that red-flagging. SO apologies. I should have done better research.
A) Police.
B) if you accidentally do things, you are still fully accountable. Imagine you accidentally shot your wife. Well it is not murder. But certainly slaughter.
But you have a point, whether the police really cares is not clear. The german authorities are sometimes really stupid and putting out laws and regulations that no-one can monitor.
BTW: But the USA too, right? I think in many areas oral sex is still forbidden? Even with married couples!
While I would certainly love to come to GT, once re-opened, with Limburg area now being red-flagged as risk zone as well, I doubt GT to re-open anytime soon. Unless they run out of space with LR. But last time I checked LR seems to not too crowded.
Again, as usual, I'd love to be wrong. But in the abscence of the international clients, I doubt the german clients will be able to feed GT and a critical number of ladies.
Well- sounds from another forum, dutch and belgians COULD enter but must provide a recent negative covid-19-test. I guess it must not be older than 1 week?
Double-checked: the province Limburg (in which 6 sense is) is exempt from that red-flagging. SO apologies. I should have done better research.
There must be a real reason if they couldn't open GT, but only small LR, moving staff there. Without NL who don t seem happy when they felt at home and Belgium, Germans are not able to give enough business to their many brothels. LR seem to be asked about health safety control, when not so welcome by Kaarst administration. Possible to visit NRW for less than 24 hours.
It is indeed still indeed to travel to / in NRW for less then 24 hours, but LR still denies entry for all people from Risk Areas (like Belgium, NL, etc), on clear demand of the local health authorities.
I think it's a business decision. If you re-start a club like the GT again then it cost a lot of money and you need to get back all the regular employees as well. And the risk that there is another shut down in the next time is there. From a owner perspective it makes more sense to focus on one club not on two.
It is indeed still indeed to travel to / in NRW for less then 24 hours, but LR still denies entry for all people from Risk Areas (like Belgium, NL, etc), on clear demand of the local health authorities.I made a try in NRW at Gold and Samya on this Saturday, coming from my German beauty at Globe. I just fell from the plane when seeing looks, Samya being down compare to 12 September when I found beauties to repeat there before covid, only Tina but no need to repeat because no love in bed, just good for fucking. At Gold, Sandra was above, claiming to be Russian from Peter, I would have been so happy to speak with her about the most beautiful town in the world, but unfortunately, Russians in FKK are not able to speak Russian, when so big smile on my escorts faces when I speak Russian to them. Only sucking, not kissing because of covid, sucking seem less risky for girls. No room in NRW. I wonder if worth to return, when I couldn't even push between Basel and Dusseldorf, worst and worst on autobahns.
It is indeed still indeed to travel to / in NRW for less then 24 hours, but LR still denies entry for all people from Risk Areas (like Belgium, NL, etc), on clear demand of the local health authorities.I have seen this "24 hour rule" floated around the various forums, but I never saw a link posted to news article or RKI website. Admittedly, I just scanned very quickly. Is the 24 hour guideline only applicable for transit through Germany? In other words, a guest worker driving from Belgium back to his home in Romania, which allows him to stay overnight at a hotel en route?
Apparently clubs like Acapulco Gold require you to fill out a questionnaire, along with providing address and contact info, and then signing your name at the bottom. One of the questions is "have you been in a risk area in the last 14 days"? So it is not only about physical residence or citizenship. A German who came back from France would be flagged. As would a Romanian WG who just returned to Germany for work for that matter. It all depends on whether a raid is conducted (low), and the level of effort the authorities would take to verify this. And I believe, worst case scenario is a 250 EUR fine?
It may be a moot point anyways. Last I read, at least five German cities are over the 50 cases per 100 K threshold. A few days ago, Merkel announced the next ten days would inform them on what actions to take. I don't think the economy or populace would accept a second lockdown, but I can imagine some more restrictions being introduced, similar to the one in Berlin with restaurants and drinking establishments being closed from 23:00 to 06:00.
BigBuddy69
10-12-20, 13:10
Even with a negative test? I am from France but not from a risky region (according to the Robert Koch Institute).
I think it's a business decision. If you re-start a club like the GT again then it cost a lot of money and you need to get back all the regular employees as well. And the risk that there is another shut down in the next time is there. From a owner perspective it makes more sense to focus on one club not on two.I'm pretty sure not about business decision when they moved staff to LR instead of LR staff, so GT staff could work at GT if they were allowed to open. They would have opened if they could, when business at GT is much higher than at small LR with less than half rooms.
I have seen this "24 hour rule" floated around the various forums, but I never saw a link posted to news article or RKI website. Admittedly, I just scanned very quickly. Is the 24 hour guideline only applicable for transit through Germany? In other words, a guest worker driving from Belgium back to his home in Romania, which allows him to stay overnight at a hotel en route?
Apparently clubs like Acapulco Gold require you to fill out a questionnaire, along with providing address and contact info, and then signing your name at the bottom. One of the questions is "have you been in a risk area in the last 14 days"? So it is not only about physical residence or citizenship. A German who came back from France would be flagged. As would a Romanian WG who just returned to Germany for work for that matter. It all depends on whether a raid is conducted (low), and the level of effort the authorities would take to verify this. And I believe, worst case scenario is a 250 EUR fine?
It may be a moot point anyways. Last I read, at least five German cities are over the 50 cases per 100 K threshold. A few days ago, Merkel announced the next ten days would inform them on what actions to take. I don't think the economy or populace would accept a second lockdown, but I can imagine some more restrictions being introduced, similar to the one in Berlin with restaurants and drinking establishments being closed from 23:00 to 06:00.Gold desk was welcoming, prettiest girl was on desk, entry 25 whole day, could eat and drink hot chocolate, but no girl for me, claimed Russian from Peter Sandra doesn't understand Russian, Caro is back from 6. Girls return in home clubs. A reddish Polish met under shower.
I made a try in NRW at Gold and Samya on this Saturday, coming from my German beauty at Globe.You were able to travel to Swiss from your country without any problem?
I have seen this "24 hour rule" floated around the various forums, but I never saw a link posted to news article or RKI website. Admittedly, I just scanned very quickly. Is the 24 hour guideline only applicable for transit through Germany? In other words, a guest worker driving from Belgium back to his home in Romania, which allows him to stay overnight at a hotel en route?Transit is for all of Germany (but NO overnight possible! The 24-hours rule is only valid for NRW (and I believe one other Bundesland / Provence), each have their own rules. Read the formal legal text (NRW Einreise verordnung, dated October 7th) and you know all (forget all the BS written on many fora, even newspapers are not right on this matter it seems, onle the legal text is leading). It is ment for border-workers, but can be applied wider. But again: staying in a hotel / overnight is not part of all this.
You were able to travel to Swiss from your country without any problem?As answered me Swiss public health office when I called them after receiving sms from BAG info, I can transit through Switzerland for less than 24 hours, I don't need hotel, I'm welcome by Fritz at Globe and I doubt they will be controlled as long they respect Zurich Kanton law and they check since 1 October, when Sofia is my only girl who worth the trip to any FKK at the moment, but so charming she really worth for me, despite crazy Swiss administration risk. I was also welcome at Gold and of course always at Samya with my Turkish friends there. I think same for transit through NRW than Switzerland. Just playing with laws. Of course, LR is under pressure from administration, when GT was not able to open. I wish all the best for life to my record girl who became superstar booked whole day at GT, she was a real pleasure from how she improved for me, from end of September 2015, I discovered her so sexy at Velbert, much more interesting than average.
HammerTime96
10-13-20, 15:36
I have seen this "24 hour rule" floated around the various forums, but I never saw a link posted to news article or RKI website. Admittedly, I just scanned very quickly. Is the 24 hour guideline only applicable for transit through Germany? In other words, a guest worker driving from Belgium back to his home in Romania, which allows him to stay overnight at a hotel en route?I've answered in the 'WTF Corona' thread, because this is relevant to all of Germany and all clubs.
I read in another forum that Italian / Romanian Kate has stopped working for good. What a pity! Who knows what Siroja will do now since in almost all her messages she was talking about her. Do you know about other Golden Time girls who stopped working for good?
I read in another forum that Italian / Romanian Kate has stopped working for good. What a pity! Who knows what Siroja will do now since in almost all her messages she was talking about her. Do you know about other Golden Time girls who stopped working for good?Or maybe I was telling about Kate / Katalina 100% Romanian who was Hessen legend and I followed at Globe after only 1 room at Sharks, but of course wish the best to lovely Kate. Great last time when I left LR and black angry eyes to enjoy with her in chalet 15 with mirrors.
Bradford Boy
10-19-20, 00:30
While I would certainly love to come to GT, once re-opened, with Limburg area now being red-flagged as risk zone as well, I doubt GT to re-open anytime soon. Unless they run out of space with LR. But last time I checked LR seems to not too crowded.
Again, as usual, I'd love to be wrong. But in the abscence of the international clients, I doubt the german clients will be able to feed GT and a critical number of ladies.
Well- sounds from another forum, dutch and belgians COULD enter but must provide a recent negative covid-19-test. I guess it must not be older than 1 week?The truth is they will all be shut till March 2021; once winter is over and those who are going to catch it and die have died.
And those who will catch it and survive have survived.
The hard truth.
I read in another forum that Italian / Romanian Kate has stopped working for good. What a pity! Who knows what Siroja will do now since in almost all her messages she was talking about her. Do you know about other Golden Time girls who stopped working for good?I wish her to really retire for a better life, but even NL were at home at GT, some booking her for the day, but so funny to read their experiences reported, so not sure they get the truth. I didn't wait for GT to discover and enjoy her, even I kept on having good times with her at GT. At Velbert where she was sitting with Romanian gang: Ana, Emily, Loredana, Barbara Lily, around her, she couldn't speak Romanian with them and they didn't want to speak English with her. I was happy for her when she found a tattooed Hungarian to speak with, even she didn't spend much time in lounge, others mostly looking at her working her 20 rooms. What a stamina with rabbits. She was always welcoming and really improved for me.
The truth is they will all be shut till March 2021; once winter is over and those who are going to catch it and die have died.
And those who will catch it and survive have survived.
The hard truth.Did GT owner give you this information, like Vanila?
BigBuddy69
10-19-20, 20:45
Oh no. How will we survive without the mind-numbing repetitious tales of delusion and pretense?We will survive pretty well actually.
We will survive pretty well actually.Do you remember that one time, Maya with the big hair, Isabella with amazing eyes, I remember when Eve took Adam's rib.
BigBuddy69
10-21-20, 15:37
I remember I banged Eve while Adam was waiting for her like an obedient lovesick puppy.
I wonder what happened to Isabella? Is she back in LR after her stint in GT?
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Bradford Boy
10-22-20, 02:18
I remember once driving from Bradford (UK), ferry from hull to Rotterdam, drive to Amsterdam, drive to Roemond (sauna club yin yang) then to GT.
Got to the door and told sorry you can't come in (I'm British Pakistani hint hint).
Travelled 770 km to be told that by a Turkish security guard. The irony.
ExpatLover
10-22-20, 17:30
EL: Sorry you are not British Pakistani. Indian kingdom in 1948 spit in 2 different countries, Indian with a vast majority of Hindu and Pakistan with a vast majority of Muslim. With me you are not so lucky because I worked 5 years in India managing a 10000+ company and I can tell that even today there are a lot of problems of ethnicity and religion and I am quite sure that you are married with a Muslim woman and not a Hindu one. Due to the commonwealth you can easily live in Europe but obviously everyone can see that you are not native from Britain.
Bradford Boy
10-23-20, 00:52
EL: Sorry you are not British Pakistani. Indian kingdom in 1948 spit in 2 different countries, Indian with a vast majority of Hindu and Pakistan with a vast majority of Muslim. With me you are not so lucky because I worked 5 years in India managing a 10000+ company and I can tell that even today there are a lot of problems of ethnicity and religion and I am quite sure that you are married with a Muslim woman and not a Hindu one. Due to the commonwealth you can easily live in Europe but obviously everyone can see that you are not native from Britain.I was born and live in the united kingdom. I refer to myself as British Pakistani because that's what the British Government classify my ethnicity as.
According to British Government website 'British Pakistani' is a recognized ethnicity / ethnic group.
Asian, Asian Scottish or Asian British.
Pakistani, Pakistani Scottish or Pakistani British.
Indian, Indian Scottish or Indian British.
Bangladeshi, Bangladeshi Scottish or Bangladeshi British.
Chinese, Chinese Scottish or Chinese British.
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups
So if the British Government tell me I am a British Pakistani then I'll stick to their advice.
More to the point, I was surprised that racism still operates at GT seeing as Germany is a modern country and it is 2020.
I was born and live in the united kingdom. I refer to myself as British Pakistani because that's what the British Government classify my ethnicity as.
According to British Government website 'British Pakistani' is a recognized ethnicity / ethnic group.
Asian, Asian Scottish or Asian British.
Pakistani, Pakistani Scottish or Pakistani British.
Indian, Indian Scottish or Indian British.
Bangladeshi, Bangladeshi Scottish or Bangladeshi British.
Chinese, Chinese Scottish or Chinese British.
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups
So if the British Government tell me I am a British Pakistani then I'll stick to their advice.
More to the point, I was surprised that racism still operates at GT seeing as Germany is a modern country and it is 2020.I have seen Indian or Pakistan customer in GT before, but I also read many times on forum that some guests from certain nation were turned back at the door, how they chooses is big mystery to me!
EL: Sorry you are not British Pakistani. Indian kingdom in 1948 spit in 2 different countries, Indian with a vast majority of Hindu and Pakistan with a vast majority of Muslim. With me you are not so lucky because I worked 5 years in India managing a 10000+ company and I can tell that even today there are a lot of problems of ethnicity and religion and I am quite sure that you are married with a Muslim woman and not a Hindu one. Due to the commonwealth you can easily live in Europe but obviously everyone can see that you are not native from Britain.Britain has changed their native to Indian, Pakistan, Arabic and Russian people LOL!
So in away, it is other way round, white people are no longer native of Britain, but minority residents of UK, soon or later, this is LOL!
I was born and live in the united kingdom. I refer to myself as British Pakistani because that's what the British Government classify my ethnicity as.
According to British Government website 'British Pakistani' is a recognized ethnicity / ethnic group.
Asian, Asian Scottish or Asian British.
Pakistani, Pakistani Scottish or Pakistani British.
Indian, Indian Scottish or Indian British.
Bangladeshi, Bangladeshi Scottish or Bangladeshi British.
Chinese, Chinese Scottish or Chinese British.
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups
So if the British Government tell me I am a British Pakistani then I'll stick to their advice.
More to the point, I was surprised that racism still operates at GT seeing as Germany is a modern country and it is 2020.As I was told: not the end of the world. Not the prettiest girls there because of rules and regulars crying on desk when they don't get everything, when GT put many mirrors to look at oneself. Not many good rooms, only best club to watch ski Worldcup, but Viky Rebensburg. De retired. Much better gardens elsewhere. Sunday brunch was good, before formula 1, NL came to watch with me.
Jim Quince
10-23-20, 21:06
Travelled 770 km to be told that by a Turkish security guard. The irony.There is no Turkish security guard at GT. Never has been.
SpermBirds
10-23-20, 22:17
Yes, as already mentioned a million of times already. GT refuses some clients to enter their doors. Mainly based on behaviour (seen many groups of younger semi drunk / semi high people arriving late being refused entry instead of taking their 4 or 5 times 60 Euro entry, lost of different nationalities by the way) and yes, sometimes they refuse people based on ethnic probably but oh well, their club, their choices. Seen visitors of all possible colours and nationalities in the club regularly as well so claiming that it's racist globally is incorrect). They simply don't allow in everybody, some may say that's racist, other might say that's good management based on the behaviour (or the complete lack of it) of some people, regardless of colour / ethnics but it's crystal clear if you club in different kind of places how the behaviour depends on the dominating groups in the different clubs.
The irony of the remark from the so called refused gentleman by a so called Turkish security guy at GT. They don't have a Turkish security guard anyway so our Bradford Boy must have been seeing ghosts but oh well. Irony has many colours and YinYang to GT is about 20 Kilometers, not 770 so don't be too upset for the extra stint of 20 K. Oh the dramatics.
I remember once driving from Bradford (UK), ferry from hull to Rotterdam, drive to Amsterdam, drive to Roemond (sauna club yin yang) then to GT.
Got to the door and told sorry you can't come in (I'm British Pakistani hint hint).
Travelled 770 km to be told that by a Turkish security guard. The irony.Go to LR or put on the make up next time LOL!
Yes, as already mentioned a million of times already. GT refuses some clients to enter their doors. Mainly based on behaviour (seen many groups of younger semi drunk / semi high people arriving late being refused entry instead of taking their 4 or 5 times 60 Euro entry, lost of different nationalities by the way) and yes, sometimes they refuse people based on ethnic probably but oh well, their club, their choices. Seen visitors of all possible colours and nationalities in the club regularly as well so claiming that it's racist globally is incorrect). They simply don't allow in everybody, some may say that's racist, other might say that's good management based on the behaviour (or the complete lack of it) of some people, regardless of colour / ethnics but it's crystal clear if you club in different kind of places how the behaviour depends on the dominating groups in the different clubs.
The irony of the remark from the so called refused gentleman by a so called Turkish security guy at GT. They don't have a Turkish security guard anyway so our Bradford Boy must have been seeing ghosts but oh well. Irony has many colours and YinYang to GT is about 20 Kilometers, not 770 so don't be too upset for the extra stint of 20 K. Oh the dramatics.Not many dark skin are welcome, East Asians are welcome. Mostly Polish staff, not Turkish. LR used to be more flexible.
HammerTime96
10-24-20, 08:31
There is no Turkish security guard at GT. Never has been.Exactly! That "I travelled 770 km" story sound more like someone wants a few politically correct browny points here, or someone with a grudge and wants to add fuel to the "GT is racist" hype. If he'd researched a little bit more on this forum, he could have bought a ticket to Frankfurt and have a good time at the clubs there, but for some unknown reason BradfordBoy decided to travel 770 km so he could post something negative about GT on this forum.
P.S. I've seen plenty of white trash being told a firm "no!" by the GT doorman, and I've also seen plenty of Asians inside, so I seriously doubt that they have "racist" or "whites only" motives. After all, money talks and bullshit walks. Their motives are probably more from practical experience, and they know who the troublemakers are.
The irony really is that you didn't care to read all the stuff here on that issue. Could have saved you the trip. But you would have still had a great time in Duisburg RLD and even LR has a less strict door policy.
I remember once driving from Bradford (UK), ferry from hull to Rotterdam, drive to Amsterdam, drive to Roemond (sauna club yin yang) then to GT.
Got to the door and told sorry you can't come in (I'm British Pakistani hint hint).
Travelled 770 km to be told that by a Turkish security guard. The irony.
Personally I would not be so harsh on Bradford Boy. I was not aware of door policies at all the clubs but I have seen dark skinned people in pretty much any club I have visited. May be I was not paying attention? I think the commenters coming down on him in a severe way would not be happy themselves if they were denied admission at some other club. But I would agree with their general advice though. Next time you visit a club you should check out the rules / admission policies / prices etc. It is just common sense. You said you drove several hundred miles BB, and that is a large investment of time and effort and money. Before I spent that much, I definitely make sure there is a plan be -- "where else can I go if that specific club is shut down for some reason, do I have other alternatives, etc". For example, it is equally possible that the club was shut down for a renovation or due to a police raid the night before, etc. What would you do? If you had scoped out what else is there to do, you can quickly visit another club within vicinity (you even had a car you said).
I don't support discriminatory door policies but the good news is that there are tons of clubs. You will find something that suits your taste. And think of it as you are not giving them your business. But do your due diligence.
Didn't meant my comment in any way harsh. Plus: I am the biggest opposer of anything racist. I had a post here before that I think, the door policy of GT is NOT OK. It should be down to the lady to accept or reject business. And indeed I have seen darker skin folks at GT. This may even depend on the time of day or the day itself.
I know for a fact, that some individual providers from nearby Duisburg RLD (just 30 min further to the east) told me that they love darker skin for various reasons.
BTW: once GT reopens once the numbers go significantly down (this is my guess), they probably be less picky.
Personally I would not be so harsh on Bradford Boy. I was not aware of door policies at all the clubs but I have seen dark skinned people in pretty much any club I have visited. May be I was not paying attention? I think the commenters coming down on him in a severe way would not be happy themselves if they were denied admission at some other club. But I would agree with their general advice though. Next time you visit a club you should check out the rules / admission policies / prices etc. It is just common sense. You said you drove several hundred miles BB, and that is a large investment of time and effort and money. Before I spent that much, I definitely make sure there is a plan be -- "where else can I go if that specific club is shut down for some reason, do I have other alternatives, etc". For example, it is equally possible that the club was shut down for a renovation or due to a police raid the night before, etc. What would you do? If you had scoped out what else is there to do, you can quickly visit another club within vicinity (you even had a car you said).
I don't support discriminatory door policies but the good news is that there are tons of clubs. You will find something that suits your taste. And think of it as you are not giving them your business. But do your due diligence.
Jim Quince
10-25-20, 10:10
I had a post here before that I think, the door policy of GT is NOT OK.This might sound harsh, but "one" of the reasons GT is such a popular place; if you like it or not; is exactly because of their door policy, so let's just say we agree to disagree.
Yes, as already mentioned a million of times already. GT refuses some clients to enter their doors. Mainly based on behaviour (seen many groups of younger semi drunk / semi high people arriving late being refused entry instead of taking their 4 or 5 times 60 Euro entry, lost of different nationalities by the way) and yes, sometimes they refuse people based on ethnic probably but oh well, their club, their choices. Seen visitors of all possible colours and nationalities in the club regularly as well so claiming that it's racist globally is incorrect). They simply don't allow in everybody, some may say that's racist, other might say that's good management based on the behaviour (or the complete lack of it) of some people, regardless of colour / ethnics but it's crystal clear if you club in different kind of places how the behaviour depends on the dominating groups in the different clubs.
The irony of the remark from the so called refused gentleman by a so called Turkish security guy at GT. They don't have a Turkish security guard anyway so our Bradford Boy must have been seeing ghosts but oh well. Irony has many colours and YinYang to GT is about 20 Kilometers, not 770 so don't be too upset for the extra stint of 20 K. Oh the dramatics.Just as a data point, not excusing this behavior, but I've heard WGs say they avoid South Asians for several reasons.
- Body odor and lack of hygiene.
- Sexual inexperience.
- Bargaining, wanting everything for the cheapest price.
I can see this from personal experience, if not from stereotypes: The first, from the cuisine. The second, from the sexually repressive culture. The last from the bargaining / marketplace culture.
I've met South Asians in clubs but they give off vibes that run counter to all these -- they're very white, "coconuts" as the slang goes.
We all have to deal with stereotypes, some work in our favor and some work against us, and it's better to neutralize them and get your way than complain about them and not get your way.
WGs have also told me they will discriminate against Black clients not because of size, but because they will more often have pimping aspirations and try to get a girl into their stable. Black clients who don't give off a thug vibe will probably have an easier time with WGs.
I think East Asian stereotypes are generally positive, which helps with access to clubs: Cleanliness, sexual culture, and overtipping. Maybe lack of size as well.
But in the club that can mean WGs may overrun you thinking that you're an easy mark.
This information is interesting to me because it illuminates what women want -- and what a woman wants as a WG isn't always the same as what a woman wants as a civilians. Civilians definitely don't want guys who are pushovers, but WGs like that. WGs value cleanliness, and civilians do too, but a civilian may be more forgiving about cleanliness if the guy is attractive and wealthy. She has more time to change him and get value out of him.
Both WGs and civilian women are engaging in a transaction of time versus access to resources but the difference is in the nature of the transaction. Civilian transactions are a lot longer term than WG transactions, and result in a much greater exchange of value.
This might sound harsh, but "one" of the reasons GT is such a popular place; if you like it or not; is exactly because of their door policy, so let's just say we agree to disagree.Personally, GT is no longer a favorite for me and nothing to do with their door policy which I had not paid any particular attention to. I think the quality has been stagnant or declined, the excessive crowded nature and older look of the girls. I think it was a good club in the first half of the last decade but my visits in the last 5 years have clearly declined there.
For her fans, Mio is on tour at Globe. Also some other German girls from GT.
Everything declined. Comparatively speaking, GT was a great club while open. Now closed it is of no use. And they are "fishing" too much. (as the website states).
Personally, GT is no longer a favorite for me and nothing to do with their door policy which I had not paid any particular attention to. I think the quality has been stagnant or declined, the excessive crowded nature and look of the girls. I think it was a good club in the first half of the last decade but my visits in the last 5 years have clearly declined there.
Personally, GT is no longer a favorite for me and nothing to do with their door policy which I had not paid any particular attention to. I think the quality has been stagnant or declined, the excessive crowded nature and older look of the girls. I think it was a good club in the first half of the last decade but my visits in the last 5 years have clearly declined there.Not the best for fresh natural beauties, even they moved many Romanians from LR. Many girls don t want to work there, even this was best business in Germany for girls.
Incognito2001
10-26-20, 15:26
Hello,
Not sure if GT is now open or not, but Maya (very athletic looking model type) will be back or she has moved on to somewhere else?
Anyone any idea?? (I spend some time with her in 2018 and 2019 (a few time in GT and twice in LR).
Thank you very much.
I,
BrahmaPoutre
10-26-20, 17:22
Not the best for fresh natural beauties, even they moved many Romanians from LR. Many girls don t want to work there, even this was best business in Germany for girls.More exactly some girls don't want to stay because they don't like for some reasons, a few of girls told me: small place, full service level for 50, beers etc etc.
But many girls want to work there and get refused for any reasons, that's true as well.
Hello,
Not sure if GT is now open or not, but Maya (very athletic looking model type) will be back or she has moved on to somewhere else?
Anyone any idea?? (I spend some time with her in 2018 and 2019 (a few time in GT and twice in LR).
Thank you very much.
I,What a sexy ass, but unfortunately, a bit Donatella Versace face.
Just as a data point, not excusing this behavior, but I've heard WGs say
WGs have also told me they will discriminate against Black clients not because of size, but because they will more often have pimping aspirations and try to get a girl into their stable. Black clients who don't give off a thug vibe will probably have an easier time with WGs.
I think East Asian stereotypes are generally positive, which helps with access to clubs: Cleanliness, sexual culture, and overtipping. Maybe lack of size as well.On my few weekly visits since soon 8 years, quite many visits all over FKK land, never heard any WGs: German or Romanian, telling me about black pimping, when telling about Balkanians, Turkish, Afghans for German WGs, but many WGs don't want black size, when they have problem with normal Caucasian size and when Asian size is so much easier. WGs seem to have smaller vagina than women in real life who usually seem to enjoy to feel something inside them.
What a sexy ass, but unfortunately, a bit Donatella Versace face.Donatella Versace face is extremely scary and many FKK girls looks like same direction after few years in the industry as they also begin to plastic their face! And body!
HammerTime96
11-02-20, 16:02
Personally, GT is no longer a favorite for me and nothing to do with their door policy which I had not paid any particular attention to. I think the quality has been stagnant or declined, the excessive crowded nature and older look of the girls. I think it was a good club in the first half of the last decade but my visits in the last 5 years have clearly declined there.I absolutely agree.
Trinity was one of my favourites and we spent many rooms together. She was classy, sexy and was always friendly and chatty. I wish I still had her phone number, I would marry her in a heartbeat! LOL!
If Trinity was working, I always had a room with her, but during the last years she was working less and less and completely stopped about a year ago. Good timing from her, I hope she found happiness!
If she (and some other favourites like Kate and nasty porno sex queen Pamela) wasn't around, the choice would be very limited to tattooed, botoxed, bleached, and silicone Germans and Rumanians, who were way past their prime years.
Too many drunk Dutch and Belgians, only coming for food and free alcohol, and cramped changing rooms, sometimes giving out clothing bags.
I agree Estonian Trinity was above most of other looks at GT, and Kate is much higher level and educated than others, why she became busy superstar booked whole day by some NL or Italians.
Too many drunk Dutch and Belgians, only coming for food and free alcohol, and cramped changing rooms, sometimes giving out clothing bags.The worse is the bathroom usually only one functional urinal and the toilet is constantly occupied. I miss yinyang.
Donatella Versace face is extremely scary and many FKK girls looks like same direction after few years in the industry as they also begin to plastic their face! And body!Yeah there was that plastic monster at Artemis that some mongers liked. Forgot her name. Very, very scary man! Then I wrote how "Gina", one of my favorites at Palace, went Michael Jackson on me and messed up her face and shit and got those big "zeppelins" bolted onto her chest for tits! She was a blonde, Czech girl who was so pretty! She looked like the kind of girl men want to marry. Then she went and ruined herself! Why?
If Trinity was working, I always had a room with her, but during the last years she was working less and less and completely stopped about a year ago. Good timing from her, I hope she found happiness!Not going into details but she is doing really good right now. Started a good business but now I believe she is single. Very happy for her. One of the very few girls that really started a better life after retirement! She will be missed!
Yeah there was that plastic monster at Artemis that some mongers liked. Forgot her name. Very, very scary man! Then I wrote how "Gina", one of my favorites at Palace, went Michael Jackson on me and messed up her face and shit and got those big "zeppelins" bolted onto her chest for tits! She was a blonde, Czech girl who was so pretty! She looked like the kind of girl men want to marry. Then she went and ruined herself! Why?Czech, we got one girl in common, Marketa! She is missed in Artemis! She was one of the last or if not the last Czech girl I saw in German FKK, all these Czech and Austrian girls are vanished now from FKK scene and also polish!
It is FKK syndrome, bored, all day in FKK, they see other girls with tattoo and surgeries, so they go for it to fix their false places, but they make it worst by doing it! I never saw plastic surgery done good or tits job! Tits I saw few that are ok, but I still do not like unnatural girls, but there are mongers who do like that!
HammerTime96
11-03-20, 08:44
The worse is the bathroom usually only one functional urinal and the toilet is constantly occupied. I miss yinyang.Yes, but at least they had good cleaning people in GT, always making sure that the rooms, toilets, restaurant, and showers were cleaned to a very good standard.
Last time I was at Sharks in the beginning of the year (when the world was still normal) their toilets looked more like that scene out of the Quintin Tarantino's movie Desperado: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQ7Lv6ekR8.
Funny how people get all nervous about a virus that has a mortality rate of 0,23% very similar to the normal seasonal flu, but don't mind rimming a girl's ass, DFK-ing a girl who has perhaps just rimmed a guy's ass, while running around in a pig sty. Sharks is very dirty; the rooms, the carpets, the restaurants, the showers and the toilets. The only thing the "cleaning staff" does is collect the used towels and bath robes, you hardly ever see anybody cleaning in Sharks.
Rumors spreading about a re-opening on the 2 Dec 2020, but still not mentioned on their website! Let's wait and see.
Tell now to open on 2 December. Maybe information about after raid are wrong. Wait and see.
I absolutely agree.
Trinity was one of my favorites and we spent many rooms together. She was classy, sexy and was always friendly and chatty. I wish I still had her phone number, I would marry her in a heartbeat! LOL!
If Trinity was working, I always had a room with her, but during the last years she was working less and less and completely stopped about a year ago. Good timing from her, I hope she found happiness!
If she (and some other favorites like Kate and nasty porno sex queen Pamela) wasn't around, the choice would be very limited to tattooed, botoxed, bleached, and silicone Germans and Rumanians, who were way past their prime years.
Too many drunk Dutch and Belgians, only coming for food and free alcohol, and cramped changing rooms, sometimes giving out clothing bags.May, 2018, I had wonderful experiences with Classy Trinity & Okasana and super sexy fun Pamela. These ladies gave me wonderful memories and make me want to come back for more.
Hopefully, when COVID-19, ends we will have new women and great experiences to look forward too.
Stay safe.
BigBuddy69
11-03-20, 19:50
Rumors spreading about a re-opening on the 2 Dec 2020, but still not mentioned on their website! Let's wait and see.Sorry to ruin your hopes but I don't think that the sauna clubs will reopen right after the end of the new lockdown.
Frankly, I do not expect to see GT opening this year. Despite my cravings for it. And yes, I would go no matter what. Current predictions of most specialists indicate that this covid-crisis will last at least until April 2021 - if not longer. So my patience ran out. Fully!! I would go. But hell yeah, I would protect myself with FFP3 masks.
Rumors spreading about a re-opening on the 2 Dec 2020, but still not mentioned on their website! Let's wait and see.
Frankly, I do not expect to see GT opening this year. Despite my cravings for it. And yes, I would go no matter what. Current predictions of most specialists indicate that this covid-crisis will last at least until April 2021 - if not longer. So my patience ran out. Fully!! I would go. But hell yeah, I would protect myself with FFP3 masks.I feel the same way but GT not opening was probably the right move. I'm sure the LR operations cost was much lower and requiring less girls. Even if the clubs are allowed to open come December, how many girls would return right before the Christmas and new year holidays. April 2021 seems like a reasonable bet.
Plus side is that I've kept auto depositing a percentage of my pay to a holiday account since March. State of affairs means I'm going to have a ridiculous amount to waste when they reopen.
ExpatLover
11-03-20, 21:56
I feel the same way but GT not opening was probably the right move. I'm sure the LR operations cost was much lower and requiring less girls. Even if the clubs are allowed to open come December, how many girls would return right before the Christmas and new year holidays. April 2021 seems like a reasonable bet.
Plus side is that I've kept auto depositing a percentage of my pay to a holiday account since March. State of affairs means I'm going to have a ridiculous amount to waste when they reopen.Better not to think like for a normal business, if you have a look on the owners of the FKK you will understand easily that turnover, costs, profitability are not applicable, you need some good washing machines.
Better not to think like for a normal business, if you have a look on the owners of the FKK you will understand easily that turnover, costs, profitability are not applicable, you need some good washing machines.As for washing, Kenna the owner of Artemis was arrested and detained and the club was investigated in details, but nothing of sort was found, so it maybe that some of us including myself are speculating bit too much than what it really is? Authority clearly went after Artemis, but they failed to find anything illegal really, it all ended up as allegedly and I doubt if they can hide it that good with accounting! But one thing is that it is cash money business, so it is possible!
Rumors spreading about a re-opening on the 2 Dec 2020, but still not mentioned on their website! Let's wait and see.Are you refererring to the "photoshopped" poster shown on several other fora? It is not reflecting the real GT website (that is life again now and shows nothing about this), probably this poster is made by a fan boy?
ExpatLover
11-04-20, 07:41
Rumors spreading about a re-opening on the 2 Dec 2020, but still not mentioned on their website! Let's wait and see.For sure not, Merkel is on the way to close more and more public places in the coming weeks.
Better not to think like for a normal business, if you have a look on the owners of the FKK you will understand easily that turnover, costs, profitability are not applicable, you need some good washing machines.I'm pretty sure if they could open GT, they would have and even maybe not opening LR which was controlled and not welcome at Kaarst. On Summer 2019, they moved girls from LR to GT, on September, they moved girls from. GT to LR and some LR girls moved elsewhere because too long time to waste to wait for free room among so few.
Better not to think like for a normal business, if you have a look on the owners of the FKK you will understand easily that turnover, costs, profitability are not applicable, you need some good washing machines.100%. Yes this is good a reminder of what world in which we P6 patrons live.
Are you refererring to the "photoshopped" poster shown on several other fora? It is not reflecting the real GT website (that is life again now and shows nothing about this), probably this poster is made by a fan boy?I've received that poster as well, but I also heard it from a regular. It may just has been wishful thinking!
BigBuddy69
11-04-20, 14:19
It's not on the website but it's on the GT Facebook page.
So at least they want to re-open: https://www.facebook.com/Saunaclub.GoldenTime/.
Let's see if German politicians will let them do it.
Right now the 7 day-100 k-incidence rate is about 40 x higher than in summer:
Moldawien 710 187,5.
Schweden* 10.177 181,3.
Kosovo 820 170,2.
Malta 106 166,3.
Gibraltar 23 151,3.
Serbien* 1. 878 146,5.
Ukraine 9. 116 137,2.
Deutschland 17.763 136,9.
Thenemark 1. 353 127,7.
Zypern 371 127,5.
It's not on the website but it's on the GT Facebook page.
It's not on the website but it's on the GT Facebook page.You are right, see https://www.facebook.com/Saunaclub.GoldenTime/photos/a.210806775653591/3439659269434976/.
It seems very optimistic and irrealistic. The close down will probably be extended to mid December at least, and with Christmas most girls are back home, so don't expet re-opening in 2020 anymore.
And in 2021 probably first Living Room again.
Remember Finca that showed several re-opening times already in June this year. And never goy really re-opened.
ExpatLover
11-05-20, 09:39
You are right, see https://www.facebook.com/Saunaclub.GoldenTime/photos/a.210806775653591/3439659269434976/.
It seems very optimistic and irrealistic. The close down will probably be extended to mid December at least, and with Christmas most girls are back home, so don't expet re-opening in 2020 anymore.
And in 2021 probably first Living Room again.
Remember Finca that showed several re-opening times already in June this year. And never goy really re-opened.Yes to reopen first they need the legal authorization, second they need to insure they will have a minimum of LU and this is not easy a lot of girls are doing escort in Germany now, a lot also went home and not sure they are willing to come back if they don t get a kind of insurance they will earn good money knowing that a lot of mongers will not come because of the risk of trackability and catching the covid. Probably the 50 euros guys, who don t care about their health will come but the girls can t and don t want only this kind of customers. I know girls who will only go with over 40 YO man, white Christian and never for 50 euro, like always this girls are not the desperate one and they know their value. Go to Mercedes and ask them the same price as Dacia they will refuse, you get what you pay for, getting everything with a beautiful girl for 50 euros is more or less impossible despite what some mongers are thinking or telling.
BigBuddy69
11-05-20, 09:43
It's also on the Instagram pages of the two clubs but yes, given the situation in Europe, I really doubt that they can reopen in December.
Had high level beauties, I doubt I would find many escorts in Germany on their level of look, for 40 or 50 in Germany, at Velbert, or Gold, or LR, or GT, without any upselling. But when I like, I prefer to play for longer than being a rabbit, so 1 hour is more my standard and even longer when excellence. I would be happy to find Russian or Ukrainian escorts now in Paris competing with their look and body care. If GT could open, they would have, but girls will come back for our money. Some Dacia are higher level than Mercedes.
ExpatLover
11-06-20, 08:57
I never escort in France, but I escort a lot in Germany and I don't agree with you, if you go through a serious agency you can find some beauty but for sure you need to be a kind of VIP customer, spending a lot of money. If you just come the first time and book a escort for 1 hour probably you will not meet those girls. Like in every business the best customers get the best things.
I never escort in France, but I escort a lot in Germany and I don't agree with you, if you go through a serious agency you can find some beauty but for sure you need to be a kind of VIP customer, spending a lot of money. If you just come the first time and book a escort for 1 hour probably you will not meet those girls. Like in every business the best customers get the best things.I actually found many escort girls working in FKK on their off days giving me amazing service promoting their escort agency website asking me to take her anytime I want for more higher rates of escort agency; I am glad I did her my way of finding her at FKK first than other way round of finding her in FKK after I went to escort LOL.
Siri only accept his beauty and only denounce your beauty trying to convey he did better girls than you or he got better service, it is his nature, but in reality I got better service from girls than him by getting my ass licked as first client and he go after me DFK-ing his princess who licked my anal LOL!
I never escort in France, but I escort a lot in Germany and I don't agree with you, if you go through a serious agency you can find some beauty but for sure you need to be a kind of VIP customer, spending a lot of money. If you just come the first time and book a escort for 1 hour probably you will not meet those girls. Like in every business the best customers get the best things.I saw many girls who also escorted on Kaufmich or Lady. De, like Shayen or Coco at GT, Tatjana led Coco to me and then I had a problem, because Coco was not attractive for me and Tatjana was upset. Beautiful natural tits for Shayen, but average face for both, had many prettier girls for FKK rate, even for only 50 or even 40 at Gold or Velbert. And now, when becoming more demanding for look and manners, public exhibition being a run away for me, I decided not to spend more than 200 now for a meeting, even at Globe, meaning maximum 45 mn, when I sometimes spent more than 500 for 2 hours or more, 30 mn being too short for my foreplay, can be 1 h30/2 h in Germany if excellence and stamina for a beauty. As a French tramp, from girls words like Joana at Globe on last night, she worked for 4 years at Palace, telling: experienced French, I will play more and more with my knowledge of women and talent to take care of them, and she advised me to make her cum, really enjoyable, like those rubbing their clit on tongue while DATY.
I actually found many escort girls working in FKK on their off days giving me amazing service promoting their escort agency website asking me to take her anytime I want for more higher rates of escort agency; I am glad I did her my way of finding her at FKK first than other way round of finding her in FKK after I went to escort LOL.
Siri only accept his beauty and only denounce your beauty trying to convey he did better girls than you or he got better service, it is his nature, but in reality I got better service from girls than him by getting my ass licked as first client and he go after me DFK-ing his princess who licked my anal LOL!Right, I'm not Asian and I'm used to Western European women. Most of your stunners don't impress me, like only average face for me, Linda, or Kylie Palace who is not pretty enough for me to spend with her. Even I had good ones with prettier face than Linda, but German don't mean quality for me. On the other hand, when I see an elegant beauty with good manners and she tells me she is Romanian, then I hear this like a quality for my way for love sex in bed. Saw many Germans claiming escorting, but they stayed in brothels like also Gigi at GT who even put silicon later, but saw only 1 wow look and enjoyed her so much on end of 2017/ beginning of 2018 , when she cancelled so many appointments to extend with me, she was in fitness, my best ever performer for sex like at home, but also asking: love me.
ExpatLover
11-08-20, 23:07
Right, I'm not Asian and I'm used to Western European women. Most of your stunners don't impress me, like only average face for me, Linda, or Kylie Palace who is not pretty enough for me to spend with her. Even I had good ones with prettier face than Linda, but German don't mean quality for me. On the other hand, when I see an elegant beauty with good manners and she tells me she is Romanian, then I hear this like a quality for my way for love sex in bed. Saw many Germans claiming escorting, but they stayed in brothels like also Gigi at GT who even put silicon later, but saw only 1 wow look and enjoyed her so much on end of 2017/ beginning of 2018 , when she cancelled so many appointments to extend with me, she was in fitness, my best ever performer for sex like at home, but also asking: love me.Sorry in real life, in Germany, Hungary, France, Italy, Slovakia, Slovenia, Rumania you can see so many beautiful faces, coming from natural beauties for me it is very difficult to find the same in FKK. I know a ex girl from FKK now she has a normal job since 2016, she is so beautiful, natural, fresh, always laughing, being happy she always tell me now I am a completely other person and I never want to come back.
While I 100% wish this to be true. There is serious doubt. Esp. With those daily numbers still rising and yesterday was a new record-high. 23.5 K on one day.
JohnReter335
11-14-20, 00:07
While I 100% wish this to be true. There is serious doubt. Esp. With those daily numbers still rising and yesterday was a new record-high. 23.5 K on one day.Oh my God it's really very high amount of cases.
While I 100% wish this to be true. There is serious doubt. Esp. With those daily numbers still rising and yesterday was a new record-high. 23.5 K on one day.Higher probability confine to be extended until mid December, a bit more flexible for Christmas and new year, and again after, when covid is more and more strong, destroying young ones. Brothels opened more than 3 months after the end of first confine, in Germany. At the moment, only Zurich and Zeus. Sz. Really happy to have gone back to Amesia ex Bumsalp where I saw few elegant looks. Unfortunately no more good foods like before, nevertheless this is a club for my eyes and mind, Ariel. Ro being wild while sex, telling: French who knows how to do.
Yes and no. The numbers are still 2-3 times better than in most other places. It is just germans are typically more sensitive, alert, and of the complaining type. But seemingly germans want to avoid the situation, where you have to bring in special trucks for the diseased (e. G. El Paso).
Oh my God it's really very high amount of cases.
You have 3 GT German WGs touring now at Globe, with miss GT 2019. Lovely Mio just finished her tour but will return. Lovely Anita. Ro returned to Vienna, she made me discover GT there. 5/6 Romanians from Oase also moved to Globe, but unfortunately for me, not wow aura Ela. Also never saw again such fire Alma after September 2019 at Oase. Funny, girls say they don't see their in Germany clients, at Globe. Only this guy goes everywhere, free bird, even driving in Switzerland lead to jail. When GT could open like they opened not welcome in Kaarst LR, but GT couldn't open, when bigger business.
Seriously? Globe is still open? Very suprising, given that the swiss infection rate is 3 x higher than even Germany.
You have 3 GT German WGs touring now at Globe, with miss GT 2019. Lovely Mio just finished her tour but will return. Lovely Anita. Ro returned to Vienna, she made me discover GT there. 5/6 Romanians from Oase also moved to Globe, but unfortunately for me, not wow aura Ela. Also never saw again such fire Alma after September 2019 at Oase. Funny, girls say they don't see their in Germany clients, at Globe. Only this guy goes everywhere, free bird, even driving in Switzerland lead to jail. When GT could open like they opened not welcome in Kaarst LR, but GT couldn't open, when bigger business.
Seriously? Globe is still open? Very suprising, given that the swiss infection rate is 3 x higher than even Germany.Basel, Zurich and Schwyz kantons are still open. My eyes had great pleasure with elegant natural looks looking like normal charming women at Amesia ex Bumsalp. And I think when You are quite good with them, they can even be quite flexible about what You have to pay, I love this, girls offering when they could try to make more money.
You have 3 GT German WGs touring now at Globe, with miss GT 2019. Lovely Mio just finished her tour but will return. Lovely Anita. Ro returned to Vienna, she made me discover GT there. 5/6 Romanians from Oase also moved to Globe, but unfortunately for me, not wow aura Ela. Also never saw again such fire Alma after September 2019 at Oase. Funny, girls say they don't see their in Germany clients, at Globe. Only this guy goes everywhere, free bird, even driving in Switzerland lead to jail. When GT could open like they opened not welcome in Kaarst LR, but GT couldn't open, when bigger business.Why does driving in Switzerland lead to jail? Thanks for the information about the clubs, appreciated.
Why does driving in Switzerland lead to jail? Thanks for the information about the clubs, appreciated.In Switzerland, you accept to be fucked by administration, even when they have no proof against you, or you go to jail. Usual rate is 1 day in jail for 100 CHF. Between Geneva and Lausanne, about 60 kms and 10 radars.
Basel, Zurich and Schwyz kantons are still open. My eyes had great pleasure with elegant natural looks looking like normal charming women at Amesia ex Bumsalp. And I think when You are quite good with them, they can even be quite flexible about what You have to pay, I love this, girls offering when they could try to make more money.Basel kanton should also close, will make more complicated my entrance from Germany Lörrach, when I enjoyed again normal women looks at Amesia Zurich, even had to work with Lucia and her Czech Republic clubs standards, but working with manners paid, real enjoyment with a natural woman look, no silicon, no heavy make up, just fresh look, so much more interesting than boring, killing desire, prostitutes images. Even not new in business and since 1 month at Amesia, but she seemed a bit lost at the end of the room, even forgetting to be paid for extended time. I must be really honest to tell her: We have to go to desk, I have to pay for extended time, to enjoy to fuck her longer. Of course, easier to enter Switzerland from south through mountains which are my land, in Gran San Bernardino above Verbier or Umbrail / Stelvio.
Why does driving in Switzerland lead to jail? Thanks for the information about the clubs, appreciated.Is there a Switzerland Forum thread? I was just thinking we are getting a lot of their posts here.
Just to give useful information's for German Mio or Tara or 2 others fans who can enjoy them at Globe which is open since 19 June and still. Mio still lovely manga girl. Hungarian Sandi also moved elsewhere where business. Some LR girls also moved elsewhere, when not enough rooms at LR, too long time to waste to wait. On Summer 2019, they moved girls from LR to GT. On September 2020, they moved GT girls to LR, making leave some LR girls.
Since they are classified into a special hospitality service, they are raking in 75% of their revenue of 12 mts ago. That is awesome money, given that they don't have much fix costs (assuming that they own their place).
Since they are classified into a special hospitality service, they are raking in 75% of their revenue of 12 mts ago. That is awesome money, given that they don't have much fix costs (assuming that they own their place).
Indeed. Most clubs in Germany earn more by staying closed (and receive a lot of government support: 75% of 2019) than re-open and have just a few die-hards visiting the club. If you look at for example Globe, that is still open, their revenue will be much much lower than 75% in the same period last year (but don't know if CH government has similar compensation rules as in Germany?
So, why did they open LR moving GT staff there then? And also losing their star girls moving to other business.
They're sister Clubs so to say. Girls from GT worked also in LR.
Because this rule was just created for the 2nd lockdown from November onwards.
So, why did they open LR moving GT staff there then? And also losing their star girls moving to other business.
Because this rule was just created for the 2nd lockdown from November onwards.Helping restaurants or stores which can t work is good, but helping brothels which didn't pay tax is weird. Anyway, I wish most of clubs can reopen, even I adapted and go elsewhere, because only girls are important for me, not brothels.
What makes you think, brothels didn't pay taxes? I think it is the taxes of GT in the first place, why they are even remotely tolerated in Bruggen.
Helping restaurants or stores which can t work is good, but helping brothels which didn't pay tax is weird. Anyway, I wish most of clubs can reopen, even I adapted and go elsewhere, because only girls are important for me, not brothels.
What makes you think, brothels didn't pay taxes? I think it is the taxes of GT in the first place, why they are even remotely tolerated in Bruggen.Did you hear about big polizei control, asking all WGs and clients, with so many police and cars, meaning spending big money for this control. Do you really think it was about a complaint? To need so many policemen and cars. I'm sure no complaint from me and if a WG complained, then no need to ask all clients. And there must be a very good reason to open only small LR with 10 rooms and not much bigger with higher income potential GT. I'm not, but if I was German, no problem for me to use my tax to save real jobs like stores, restaurants, bars, even discotheques, to prevent unemployment, but in brothels, how many Germans really living in Germany and paying tax in Germany, are working? When brothels also often don't pay all tax and most of brothels money leaving to Romania or HA washing machine. This business is not a clear honest business like in real life.
To add from what I was told by a ex GT German star for years, a bad guy like me would never put his woman in such situation, even many WGs don't like her, but really not many real men in this business, really not wishing her what I experienced in Switzerland, if it really happened for control consequences.
What makes you think, brothels didn't pay taxes? I think it is the taxes of GT in the first place, why they are even remotely tolerated in Bruggen.In theory, if they didn't pay taxes then any percent of 0 zero is zero. Why do the French care if Germany bails out German businesses. The Germans have been bailing out Europeans countries that didn't enforce taxes on their citizens for years Sorry, just my random thoughts.
If we think back a couple thousand posts, someone said the drove by GT and saw pallets of building materials and workmen in front. It seems quite probable that they started a large work project that wasn't completed when the business was enexpectidly reopened.
ExpatLover
12-08-20, 20:29
What makes you think, brothels didn't pay taxes? I think it is the taxes of GT in the first place, why they are even remotely tolerated in Bruggen.Most of the revenues are in cash, of course they are paying taxes, they are not so stupid, but are they paying taxes on 100% of their turn over probably not, most of the FKK are also washing machine, it is not because it is legal that it is a 100% clean business.
Most of the revenues are in cash, of course they are paying taxes, they are not so stupid, but are they paying taxes on 100% of their turn over probably not, most of the FKK are also washing machine, it is not because it is legal that it is a 100% clean business.And for my moral values, I never put any of my women in such bad situation to protect me. Not same values in brothels business, even when German he is, not sure for her, so maybe he thinks she has less value, not being German. Real men don't need to hide behind their woman.
Revising my thinking slighty and getting more optimistic. I think GT with its many cabins *outside* is in great shape to open in Summer.
- Especially with rapid / quick COVID tests coming up.
- We will have to assume that showering is most likely NOT an option. So please all, come already clean. Washing after the toilet of course is doable.
- And there will be heavy mask restrictions, outside, indoors, and esp. In the room.
- Significant room ventilation / desinfection after usage.
- Eating can be implemented nicely outdoors too.
- no hovering around indoors. Unless you have FFP2 masks on. Zip on your glass outside.
All quite doable.
Poor girls if guys don t take shower before being sucked, when many washed their tool in basin where we wash hands and teeth, they might already be scared by shower, already before virus. I wish for private shower, at least 2, for girls, rather than toilets behind desk. Nevertheless, no opening on last Summer, on September. Only LR opened.
There is no problem in coming washed already. This is the NORM in all Laufhäuser.
Poor girls if guys don t take shower before being sucked, when many washed their tool in basin where we wash hands and teeth, they might already be scared by shower, already before virus. I wish for private shower, at least 2, for girls, rather than toilets behind desk. Nevertheless, no opening on last Summer, on September. Only LR opened.
There is no problem in coming washed already. This is the NORM in all Laufhuser.I visited few laufthaus like Paradise Hamburg, so dirty, real killing desire and to catch bad, even lower hygiene level than RTC. And what about between rooms, also no shower? At least equal for guys and girls. Do You think Bavarian who could be after Angela, in September? Will support brothels, when he wanted to close border with Tirol.
We could even wash in the showers, I reckon: just keep the masks on. Humidity is bad for virus transmission, BTW. It is all doable.
There is no problem in coming washed already. This is the NORM in all Laufhuser.
Revising my thinking slighty and getting more optimistic. I think GT with its many cabins *outside* is in great shape to open in Summer.
- Especially with rapid / quick COVID tests coming up.
- We will have to assume that showering is most likely NOT an option. So please all, come already clean. Washing after the toilet of course is doable.
- And there will be heavy mask restrictions, outside, indoors, and esp. In the room.
- Significant room ventilation / desinfection after usage.
- Eating can be implemented nicely outdoors too.
- no hovering around indoors. Unless you have FFP2 masks on. Zip on your glass outside.
All quite doable.I really hope you are right, I have a trip to Germany booked for September and I hope it will be mostly back to normal by then. Fingers crossed!
I really hope you are right, I have a trip to Germany booked for September and I hope it will be mostly back to normal by then. Fingers crossed!Wish you to be from EU or Swiss, even Germany forbid their citizens to go to Switzerland since before Christmas, they must have a good reason, except Germans not liking much Swiss.
I really hope you are right, I have a trip to Germany booked for September and I hope it will be mostly back to normal by then. Fingers crossed!Same, I'm going to be very busy come fall 2021 and am also hoping to get in a solid FKK trip in there beforehand.
Even if the clubs open as early as summer, it's going to take some time for many girls to feel that the situation is stable enough to warrant resuming that work lifestyle.
My bet is that an Oktoberfest this year can be used as a benchmark for "normal" club operations. If they have relatively normal Oktoberfest, then the FKK scene is on!
Not true. Germans really like the swiss and we love many things the swiss bring to the world. Just Germans don't appreciate the swiss banks who make too much business with global criminals e. G. drug cartels and dictators.
Wish you to be from EU or Swiss, even Germany forbid their citizens to go to Switzerland since before Christmas, they must have a good reason, except Germans not liking Swiss.
PaulInZurich
03-07-21, 21:01
Wish you to be from EU or Swiss, even Germany forbid their citizens to go to Switzerland since before Christmas, they must have a good reason, except Germans not liking much Swiss.Germany forbids their citizens to go to Switzerland just as much as they forbid their citizens to go to France.
https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/aussenpolitik/laender/frankreich-node/frankreichsicherheit/209524
Maybe Germans don't like French either.
PaulInZurich
03-07-21, 21:25
Not true. Germans really like the swiss and we love many things the swiss bring to the world. Just Germans don't appreciate the swiss banks who make too much business with global criminals e. G. drug cartels and dictators.I think the average Swiss doesn't have a good opinion about the Swiss banks either.
It took political will from the Americans to put the squeeze on Swiss banks to kill banking secrecy. For US citizens since 2012 and for EU citizens since 2015.
- We will have to assume that showering is most likely NOT an option. So please all, come already clean. Washing after the toilet of course is doable.They should set up some outdoor showers spaced a couple meters apart.
BigBuddy69
03-07-21, 22:49
Everyone like Swiss except their shady banks. They're polite, the country is beautiful, clean and very safe (but pricey unfortunately). I remember taking part in a mountain bike event in the Valais, the racers let the bikes outside on the terrace during the night and we're speaking about several thousand euros bikes here, not crappy French tourist bikes for guys who ride max three weeks every summer. When I asked the owner of the chalet if it was safe to do this, she reassured me. If you go buy your bread in a bakery in France, even with a 50 euros bike you should use a good lock unless you want to come back home by foot.
Not true. Germans really like the swiss and we love many things the swiss bring to the world. Just Germans don't appreciate the swiss banks who make too much business with global criminals e. G. drug cartels and dictators.When I told in Germany, I went to Switzerland and loved there, I was really surprised of German reactions and nothing because more expensive but about Swiss arrogance, what I don't agree about, when I like Swiss people, even I think Swiss administration are robbers and ready for anything for money.
Seemingly GT Brüggen could open (theoretically) this weekend: (and many many others too):
Their current incidence rate (relevant district is Viersen) is below 35 - actually 34.8.
See this here as reference:
https://rp-online.de/panorama/corona...t_aid-58504119
Seemingly GT Brggen could open (theoretically) this weekend: (and many many others too):
Their current incidence rate (relevant district is Viersen) is below 35 - actually 34.8.
See this here as reference:
https://rp-online.de/panorama/corona...t_aid-58504119Do any German club tell about reopening? Like some claimed on 2020, but Finca or GT didn't reopen.
Seemingly GT Brggen could open (theoretically) this weekend: (and many many others too):
Their current incidence rate (relevant district is Viersen) is below 35 - actually 34.8.
See this here as reference:
https://rp-online.de/panorama/corona...t_aid-58504119Brothels will be allowed to open once the state is in a good condition like below 35 cases per 100,000, NRW is still at 44.8 on the RKI site. And they will still be at the back of the line when it comes to being allowed to open.
Brothels will be allowed to open once the state is in a good condition like below 35 cases per 100,000, NRW is still at 44.8 on the RKI site. And they will still be at the back of the line when it comes to being allowed to open.This KPI is measured per regio (Kreiss), and GT is located in Viersen, and there it is now 36,1, so tomorrow it will be probably below 35.
In other regions club already re-open (some on Monday, some Friday), depending on the number going below 35.
Brothels will be allowed to open once the state is in a good condition like below 35 cases per 100,000, NRW is still at 44.8 on the RKI site. And they will still be at the back of the line when it comes to being allowed to open.Note that the article says brothels may be visited provided less than 35 cases, but only with a test. ("... Bordelle mit Test besucht werden").
ExpatLover
05-29-21, 16:56
Note that the article says brothels may be visited provided less than 35 cases, but only with a test. ("... Bordelle mit Test besucht werden").Even with or without test, I will not go, the Indian variant is around, always the politicians are too slow to react. I will wait some more months, and if really the things will return to normal I will visit prostitutes not before. Prostitutes meet many people every day, some of those are really not careful with their health (doing or asking AO for example) I don t believe that those guys are careful about covid.
Even with or without test, I will not go, the Indian variant is around, always the politicians are too slow to react. I will wait some more months, and if really the things will return to normal I will visit prostitutes not before. Prostitutes meet many people every day, some of those are really not careful with their health (doing or asking AO for example) I don t believe that those guys are careful about covid.When they claimed to reopen on 2020, do they now? And for LR?
Agree: it seesm the incidence rate just needs to be less or equal 35 for three days and then the region (Kreis) can open pay6 the next day after.
The opposite is true as well: if the incidence rate goes above 35 for three days, then pay6 has to be shut down the next day after.
And a very recent test is always required.
This KPI is measured per regio (Kreiss), and GT is located in Viersen, and there it is now 36,1, so tomorrow it will be probably below 35.
In other regions club already re-open (some on Monday, some Friday), depending on the number going below 35.
Yes. At least 5 have announced to open tomorrow or during next week: -- yet still hoping for GT. BTW: there is rumour that GT-owner has died? Can anyone confirm:
SaunaClub Venus Hamminkeln Wesel.
Saunaclub Antalya Munster.
LaVita Osnabrck.
M-exclusiv near Munster.
Freudenhaus / Mnster from 4. Juni.
Do any German club tell about reopening? Like some claimed on 2020, but Finca or GT didn't reopen.
Yes. At least 5 have announced to open tomorrow or during next week: -- yet still hoping for GT. BTW: there is rumour that GT-owner has died? Can anyone confirm:
SaunaClub Venus Hamminkeln Wesel.
Saunaclub Antalya Munster.
LaVita Osnabrck.
M-exclusiv near Munster.
Freudenhaus / Mnster from 4. Juni.I don't know others than Venus which is not the RTC one. I remember I saw there Jessika World who turned Mady at Sharks then Globe, on my 2019 visit. Visited twice, didn't feel any spark even the club is Ok, when I know how it will be difficult for me on my return, I will really need a charming elegant woman image with a bit chic manners to give me motivation. When Germany put UK under 15 days quarantine and I respect this decision to try to protect citizens, when must be now around 90 000 deaths, I m a bit surprised they allow risky playfields brothels reopening, furthermore before elections, when no big employment for Germans in brothels but mostly foreigners sending money abroad. GT / LR are not claiming about reopening?
There is no claim about LR / GT reopening. Also: they simply do not have the numbers yet. All that matters are those Kreis-Incidence numbers.
Rhein-Kreis Neuss is at 39 -.
Viersen is just barely below 35 - but messed up yesterday.
They need those numbers below 35 for 5 days in a row. And then they can open on the 7th day.
If those numbers go above 35 for 3 days in a row, they must close on the 5th day.
It is not really clear under this regime, how they can open soon. Can they really afford this back and forth. Check the UK, where in many instances this number is oscilating exactly around those 30-40.
I don't know others than Venus which is not the RTC one. I remember I saw there Jessika World who turned Mady at Sharks then Globe, on my 2019 visit. Visited twice, didn't feel any spark even the club is Ok, when I know how it will be difficult for me on my return, I will really need a charming elegant woman image with a bit chic manners to give me motivation. When Germany put UK under 15 days quarantine and I respect this decision to try to protect citizens, when must be now around 90 000 deaths, I m a bit surprised they allow risky playfields brothels reopening, furthermore before elections, when no employment for Germans in brothels but mostly foreigners sending money abroad. GT / LR are not claiming about reopening?
There could be a problem with people not being able to rent cars or the car prices being way too high. There is a shortage of semiconductors used in new cars.
Even if things go back to normal, people will not be able to rent cars and need to find other ways to get around in Germany.
Same, I'm going to be very busy come fall 2021 and am also hoping to get in a solid FKK trip in there beforehand.
Even if the clubs open as early as summer, it's going to take some time for many girls to feel that the situation is stable enough to warrant resuming that work lifestyle.
My bet is that an Oktoberfest this year can be used as a benchmark for "normal" club operations. If they have relatively normal Oktoberfest, then the FKK scene is on!
There could be a problem with people not being able to rent cars or the car prices being way too high. There is a shortage of semiconductors used in new cars.
Even if things go back to normal, people will not be able to rent cars and need to find other ways to get around in Germany.Das Oktoberfest ist dieses Jahr fallt aus 😬.
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-oktoberfest-canceled-again-in-2021-due-to-coronavirus/a-57413659
ExpatLover
06-03-21, 19:22
There could be a problem with people not being able to rent cars or the car prices being way too high. There is a shortage of semiconductors used in new cars.
Even if things go back to normal, people will not be able to rent cars and need to find other ways to get around in Germany.There is a solution, stay home and fuck your GF or spouse.
99% of GT customers don't care about the oktoberfest.
Das Oktoberfest ist dieses Jahr fallt aus 😬.
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-oktoberfest-canceled-again-in-2021-due-to-coronavirus/a-57413659
There could be a problem with people not being able to rent cars or the car prices being way too high. There is a shortage of semiconductors used in new cars.
Even if things go back to normal, people will not be able to rent cars and need to find other ways to get around in Germany.That would be an issue in a country like USA but in Germany it is pretty easy to get around without a car. Some clubs even pick you up if you are not to far away.
There is a solution, stay home and fuck your GF or spouse.What about men who do not have GF or spouse and to not have the ability to convince a 25 year old woman to have sex with them? What should they do?
99% of GT customers don't care about the oktoberfest.True, but the point (that I apparently failed) to make is that Oktoberfest won't be a good benchmark for FKK reopening this year. And who took the jam from your doughnut?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrZKMgDTjsM
True, but the point (that I apparently failed) to make is that Oktoberfest won't be a good benchmark for FKK reopening this year. And who took the jam from your doughnut?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrZKMgDTjsMI like this one. He has good jokes.
ExpatLover
06-04-21, 05:36
What about men who do not have GF or spouse and to not have the ability to convince a 25 year old woman to have sex with them? What should they do?Globally there is a natural selection, only the very weak guys are not able to seduce woman, better for those guys to get some training and to date girls. Fucking prostitutes is not bringing any solution I would like to say even creating more problems. Most of the guys fucking prostitutes are in a stable relation.
That would be an issue in a country like USA but in Germany it is pretty easy to get around without a car. Some clubs even pick you up if you are not to far away.Not easy to reach GT without car, when Oase created shuttle from Frankfurt.
BigBuddy69
06-04-21, 08:52
There could be a problem with people not being able to rent cars or the car prices being way too high. There is a shortage of semiconductors used in new cars.
Even if things go back to normal, people will not be able to rent cars and need to find other ways to get around in Germany.Why should there be a shortage? Most of the cars of the rental enterprises have been sleeping in their parking for more than a year in Germany, they are still in perfect condition.
Why should there be a shortage? Most of the cars of the rental enterprises have been sleeping in their parking for more than a year in Germany, they are still in perfect condition.A lot of companies sold off large parts of their fleet last year in addition to their normal annual turnover and did not purchase as many of the newer models with the decreased demand.
Why should there be a shortage? Most of the cars of the rental enterprises have been sleeping in their parking for more than a year in Germany, they are still in perfect condition.In many places the rental companys have sold their cars and now have to wait very long for new ones. But I haven't heard about this affecting Germany. But in some parts of the USA or Greece it seems to be driving the prices for rental cars to the moon (if you can get one at all).
Globally there is a natural selection, only the very weak guys are not able to seduce woman, better for those guys to get some training and to date girls. Fucking prostitutes is not bringing any solution I would like to say even creating more problems. Most of the guys fucking prostitutes are in a stable relation.I would bet that most people would agree that a 50 year old man would have a hard time trying to find a 25 year old woman that would fuck him for free. That is a natural reality. Saying that those guys are weak victims of natural selection seems to be out of touch with reality. I'm pretty sure I will have a much harder time "seducing" hot 25 year old women at the age of 50 than at my current age. It's already not the super easy, I can only it being harder as I age.
I don't share your opinion that most guys fucking prostitutes are in a stable relationship, but it's hard to say for sure. It's not like you or I survey the patrons of a club about their relationship status. But visiting Turkish clubs in NRW or at night in Hessen leaves me with the impression that there is quite a large number of young men who don't appear to be in stable relationships. I know that the times in my life when I was in stable relationships, I did not visit prostitutes. None of the dozen or so guys that I visit FKKs with are in stable relationships. The ones who fell into relationships have gradually tapered off from visiting hookers. So my personal experience is incongruent with your claim.
ExpatLover
06-04-21, 19:39
I would bet that most people would agree that a 50 year old man would have a hard time trying to find a 25 year old woman that would fuck him for free. That is a natural reality. Saying that those guys are weak victims of natural selection seems to be out of touch with reality. I'm pretty sure I will have a much harder time "seducing" hot 25 year old women at the age of 50 than at my current age. It's already not the super easy, I can only it being harder as I age.
I don't share your opinion that most guys fucking prostitutes are in a stable relationship, but it's hard to say for sure. It's not like you or I survey the patrons of a club about their relationship status. But visiting Turkish clubs in NRW or at night in Hessen leaves me with the impression that there is quite a large number of young men who don't appear to be in stable relationships. I know that the times in my life when I was in stable relationships, I did not visit prostitutes. None of the dozen or so guys that I visit FKKs with are in stable relationships. The ones who fell into relationships have gradually tapered off from visiting hookers. So my personal experience is incongruent with your claim.What can young man visiting Turkish clubs expect? Answer: Nothing. Will it be not better for them to date normal woman than to buy some fake illusion?
HammerTime96
06-04-21, 21:31
Das Oktoberfest ist dieses Jahr fallt aus 😬.
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-oktoberfest-canceled-again-in-2021-due-to-coronavirus/a-57413659Good morning Captain Obvious! I guess some people are a bit slow to catch on.
I already posted this in March:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus!&p=2556281&highlight=oktoberfest#post2556281.
What can young man visiting Turkish clubs expect? Answer: Nothing. Will it be not better for them to date normal woman than to buy some fake illusion?Mostly yes for the young men, although some benefits such as gaining confidence can be had.
But what about the 50 year old man who hungers for a 25 year old? Should he not visit these clubs according to your views?
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 04:11
Mostly yes for the young men, although some benefits such as gaining confidence can be had.
But what about the 50 year old man who hungers for a 25 year old? Should he not visit these clubs according to your views?I have no idea about the others but I start mongering when I was 45 after my divorce, probably to try to buy back some kind of lost time. 10 years long I had so many experiences (a kind of sex addiction) until I start to think that this is not freedom. Unconstinltly I was looking for more and more stunners who in fact are more or less impossible to find therefor it is more and more an excuse not to session any girl, globally a mean to protect myself to come back in my previous addiction. The pandemic is also a excellent additional tool, now I am completely out my addiction, completely free and so much happier in my new balanced life.
I have no idea about the others but I start mongering when I was 45 after my divorce, probably to try to buy back some kind of lost time. 10 years long I had so many experiences (a kind of sex addiction) until I start to think that this is not freedom. Unconstinltly I was looking for more and more stunners who in fact are more or less impossible to find therefor it is more and more an excuse not to session any girl, globally a mean to protect myself to come back in my previous addiction. The pandemic is also a excellent additional tool, now I am completely out my addiction, completely free and so much happier in my new balanced life.Addiction is when you suffer and not able to control. When You have pleasure, like eating Swiss white chocolate without becoming fat, then this business can even keep you young for mood. I think this business is good for my mood and health when I succeed to find a girl on my standard, which can be very hard job for me. And I know how it will be difficult when I will return, but maybe Christmas in June.
There is a solution, stay home and fuck your GF or spouse.
I have no idea about the others but I start mongering when I was 45 after my divorce, probably to try to buy back some kind of lost time. 10 years long I had so many experiences (a kind of sex addiction) until I start to think that this is not freedom. (Clipped for brevity)That's wonderful for you, but is that your answer to the original question? In your opinion, should single 50+ year old men who want the sexual company of 25 year old women not visit brothels?
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 16:23
That's wonderful for you, but is that your answer to the original question? In your opinion, should single 50+ year old men who want the sexual company of 25 year old women not visit brothels?I can t answer for the others, for me it was the easiest way to get sex with woman, will I do it again probably not, since 2018 I have great sex without paying for prostitutes.
I can t answer for the others, for me it was the easiest way to get sex with woman, will I do it again probably not, since 2018 I have great sex without paying for prostitutes.Well, the question was directed at your advice to stay home and fuck GF or spouse. Sounds like you kind of already were answering for them.
ExpatLover
06-05-21, 18:31
Well, the question was directed at your advice to stay home and fuck GF or spouse. Sounds like you kind of already were answering for them.I think if you are lucky to have a spouse or GF, it is far better to spend time with her than to fuck prostitutes.
I think if you are lucky to have a spouse or GF, it is far better to spend time with her than to fuck prostitutes.Agreed, but again, you avoided the original question. Again.
You say the easy solution is for men to fuck their wives and GFs. And for young men to fuck normal women. Does you recommendation apply to single older men? It's a simple yes or no question.
Carpaccio18
06-05-21, 22:27
I think if you are lucky to have a spouse or GF, it is far better to spend time with her than to fuck prostitutes.Isn't this a rather peculiar discussion to have on a forum dedicated to people fucking prostitutes as a hobby.
I'm 50+, and unless you're very rich or a rock star (I'm neither), chasing women half your age you quickly become ridiculous. And even if you're succesful, you're a generation apart and most likely have nothing in common. I would never date a 25 year old, ever.
But I do want to fuck 25 year old prostitutes. Why? Obviously because they are hot and sexy. But I sure as hell would not fuck a 50+ prostitute.
This GF or spouse vs prostitute discussion doesn't make sense, its not the same thing or purpose.
Isn't this a rather peculiar discussion to have on a forum dedicated to people fucking prostitutes as a hobby.
I'm 50+, and unless you're very rich or a rock star (I'm neither), chasing women half your age you quickly become ridiculous. And even if you're succesful, you're a generation apart and most likely have nothing in common. I would never date a 25 year old, ever.
But I do want to fuck 25 year old prostitutes. Why? Obviously because they are hot and sexy. But I sure as hell would not fuck a 50+ prostitute.
This GF or spouse vs prostitute discussion doesn't make sense, its not the same thing or purpose.Right, even you are rich enough to date 25 years old at age 50. Do not do it, do not welcome them into your life, it could cost you life or millions LOL!
However, fuck them and leaven them, that is what beautiful young stunners are there for. 16 to 25 is their peak and 30 is their last freshness, after that stunners are on decline rapidly beauty wise and personality wise that it is not worth even to fuck.
ExpatLover
06-06-21, 08:59
Isn't this a rather peculiar discussion to have on a forum dedicated to people fucking prostitutes as a hobby.
I'm 50+, and unless you're very rich or a rock star (I'm neither), chasing women half your age you quickly become ridiculous. And even if you're succesful, you're a generation apart and most likely have nothing in common. I would never date a 25 year old, ever.
But I do want to fuck 25 year old prostitutes. Why? Obviously because they are hot and sexy. But I sure as hell would not fuck a 50+ prostitute.
This GF or spouse vs prostitute discussion doesn't make sense, its not the same thing or purpose.Are you aware about what you are writing, you are just showing no respect for so many women in love with older men, you are just finding excuses (not rich, not a rock star) of not being able to seduce young women in normal life. You believe that a 50+ old man fucking a 25 YO prostitute in a FKK is not ridiculous. I never try in my life to find excuses but solutions.
ExpatLover
06-06-21, 09:01
Agreed, but again, you avoided the original question. Again.
You say the easy solution is for men to fuck their wives and GFs. And for young men to fuck normal women. Does you recommendation apply to single older men? It's a simple yes or no question.Yes, I am a older man and I have a lot of good sex (far better than with prostitutes) with normal women and I advice every one to do the same, age is in the head nothing else.
Yes, I am a older man and I have a lot of good sex (far better than with prostitutes) with normal women and I advice every one to do the same, age is in the head nothing else.Yes, some age much faster than others, for look, being bald and fat, which don t help, and for performances, when some 20's /30's take Viagra to fuck when I don t need, some girls insulting me saying: You fuck like a pornstar, just insulting for me.
Those things are perfect. I spend time with my wife and still spend time fucking prostitutes. I don't see them as mutually exclusive.
I think if you are lucky to have a spouse or GF, it is far better to spend time with her than to fuck prostitutes.
ExpatLover
06-07-21, 03:27
Those things are perfect. I spend time with my wife and still spend time fucking prostitutes. I don't see them as mutually exclusive.I already gave my opinion on that topic, I am 99.9% sure that your wife is not aware that you are fucking prostitutes and that probably it will be hard for you to accept the reciprocity which means your wife spending money and time with prostitutes. For me it is always better to invest the time and money with our partner than in prostitutes, with prostitutes you can win nothing except a little bit short time pleasure. For me there is 0 proud to fuck a prostitute, and on top of that there is no performance to be proud for if to do it you have to take pills.
There is one or two 50 year olds I'd fuck. But I have yet to find a 50 year old girl working in a club. But show me one looking like Sarah Michelle Gellar (44 now, but I bet still hot in 6 years) or Kylie Minogue 3 years ago, and I'd have no issues with their looks.
60 is more of an issue. Can't think of anyone then.
There is one or two 50 year olds I'd fuck. But I have yet to find a 50 year old girl working in a club. But show me one looking like Sarah Michelle Gellar (44 now, but I bet still hot in 6 years) or Kylie Minogue 3 years ago, and I'd have no issues with their looks.
60 is more of an issue. Can't think of anyone then.You can try legendary plastic granny Sylvana / Donatella. I wonder if she will be back, like terminator. Even women in real life are much more interesting and usually higher level for sexuality, and when I find more interesting 24/38 yo girls who are more woman for me than schoolgirl types, but FKK like escorts but falling in Paris, are jouvence when tasting fresh flesh, making feel young, furthermore when girls say: You fuck more than 20's guys, probably meaning I m able to control for longer, but I hate when they say: You fuck like a pornstar, insulting for me, if they knew how I'm careful with them. I think I could try Charlize Theron as MILF in FKK.
ExpatLover
06-08-21, 21:41
You can try legendary plastic granny Sylvana / Donatella. I wonder if she will be back, like terminator. Even women in real life are much more interesting and usually higher level for sexuality, and when I find more interesting 24/38 yo girls who are more woman for me than schoolgirl types, but FKK like escorts but falling in Paris, are jouvence when tasting fresh flesh, making feel young, furthermore when girls say: You fuck more than 20's guys, probably meaning I m able to control for longer, but I hate when they say: You fuck like a pornstar, insulting for me, if they knew how I'm careful with them. I think I could try Charlize Theron as MILF in FKK.She is just awful, when I see her I just want to vomit. Even she gives me 10000 euros I will not fuck her. Last time I saw her it was IN FKK First, she was completely crazy because no rooms despite hunting like never. She came 5 times to me, despite I told her 30 times in the last 10 years that I will never go the room with her.
There is one or two 50 year olds I'd fuck. But I have yet to find a 50 year old girl working in a club. But show me one looking like Sarah Michelle Gellar (44 now, but I bet still hot in 6 years) or Kylie Minogue 3 years ago, and I'd have no issues with their looks.
60 is more of an issue. Can't think of anyone then.Go to Artemis, they cover all type of women, from young stunner that is very few to grand ma veteran well to my taste they are grand ma, but woman over 35 to 45 are there, somehow they never talk to me as I think I give out the vibe that I only like young stunners LOL!
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