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Routard
02-13-07, 23:17
I arrived at 23H00 after having spend all the day in two other partytreffs. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=562630&postcount=1240. Please take this into account as it might alter my judgement.

FKK-Club Penelope Hundebrinkstr. 8 45326 ESSEN (Tel. 0201-313514; 0201-325187) www.clubpenelope.de. Open from Sunday au Thursday from 12H00 till 3H00, Friday and Saturday from 12H00 till 6H00. Entrance is 30€ and pricing is 25€ for each session and 10€ additional for BBBJ.

There is a huge 8 in front of the entrance door. I pay 30€ and I get 2 towels and my locker’s key. The locker’s room and shower is downstairs, it looks a bit like in a sport club. Downstairs is also a sauna but I’ve seen no customers inside. I guess it’s not the main purpose of their visit. I take a shower, put my towel on and go upstairs to get exchange the locker’s key with the safety box key, the safety boxes are upstairs in front of the bar. I take a drink at the bar and check around. Probably 80% of guests are Turkish, as this is the club were they are redirected from the other Red Carpet Clubs. Even the music is Turkish, but don’t worry, it’s not uncomfortable not being a Turkish. The main room looks like all Red Carpet Clubs: a large place with plenty of sofas everywhere, exactly the same type and colour as in the other clubs, a horrible wall paper and of course the famous red carpet on the floor. Definitely, the decoration is shit. As usual, there is no couch action, no interaction and sitting near a girl is already committing. But here is the good part: there is a great line-up, around 20-30 young girls mostly from Eastern Europe, a few German and a few Turkish. Believe it or not, most are great looking. I guess it’s because I’ve spend two days in partytreffs. If the girls in partytreff are 7, the girls here are 8, just like in any other FKK. And guess what, I even notice a 9! What do you think I did? Of course, I approached her.

Her name is Katharina and she is a 21 years old Polish girl. She has simply a perfect look, imagine the famous Marlene from Samya with a prettier face: petite, slim perfect firm teenage body, long blonde hair, very cute face with blue eyes. It’s sometimes hard to believe what such a girl is doing in such a place. A started small talks with her, but as I expected she very quickly offered me to go to the room. The rooms are great by the way. The session was a disaster. She was not comfortable with me until the condom was safely put on. She then tried to make me come as fast as possible with quick hip movements. But after a dozen sessions during the last hours, it simply hurt me more than it gave me pleasure. I tried to calm her down, get her close to me and kiss her, but there was no way. I preferred to interrupt the session, which she didn’t appreciate, and couldn’t understand how I could leave the room without cuming. I guess I might have get a better session if I was in a better shape too, but it didn’t work out this time, even with the greatest looking girl I have met in all the four clubs.

I paid, took a shower and went back to the hotel, hoping I would recovering for the next day, as I was supposed to meet Toscana at Goldentime.

Wanking
02-15-07, 02:25
When I met Toscana in Prague last year, he mentioned that the Red Carpet clubs or a least some big budget chain of FKKs are owned by either the LIDL or ALDI Supermarket chains??

anyone got any info on this??

Jackyo
02-15-07, 03:13
I don't think anyone should dismiss these clubs simply because of the decor.

There are gems to be discovered at them if you are willing to put up with the sometimes uneven quality of the women.

Back at the start of my career they were always a part of my itinerary.

I've been to Penelope several times despite the fact that it has a Turkish slant to it. I hold nothing against the Turks as I myself have had a fetish for their women.

The Dietzenbach club is called the Aldi because it tended to price services at a lower rate than any of the other clubs in the area, by the way.

From the last report done on F39 in Bochum (also a Red Carpet), it appears that the pricing advantage has, however, disappeared at least for this club (the F39, meine ich).

Mark User
02-15-07, 14:20
I was at Dietzenbach last week and had a wonderful time and there were several cute young'uns, and the price was quite reasonable.

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=560579&postcount=1427

Kingwenslas
02-15-07, 16:34
Hi Guys

Forgive my ignorance, but I don’t think I’ve heard this phrase in all my years of mongering. I’ve had a quick look round this site to get a definition, but can’t find any. Can anyone help?

Kingwenslas

Jackyo
02-16-07, 09:46
Hi Guys

Forgive my ignorance, but I don’t think I’ve heard this phrase in all my years of mongering. I’ve had a quick look round this site to get a definition, but can’t find any. Can anyone help?

Kingwenslas
... are a chain of clubs which are mostly in the Ruhr. The "Aldi" in Dietzenbach near the FFM airport is the only one of these clubs which isn't in the Ruhr.

They are typically situated near Autobahn exits and their names kind of just roll off one's tongue: Herne-Horsthausen, Recklinghausen Grimbergsauna, Penelope in Essen, Bochum-Hamme, Bochum-Freude, Dortmund-Alperbeck, usw...

They are all characterized by the same Puffdecor: heavy carpets (red, of course), same couches, dark lighting. Their pricing was always quite good as they used to have "three session" deals: As you booked more sessions, the lower your per session rate was.

A club which has similar pricing but isn't a Red Carpet is Dolce Vita in Duesseldorf (now renamed FKK Duesseldorf, according to something I read somewhere).

I say "used to" because I haven't been in a while and can't confirm if this is still the case. My first Red Carpet Club visit was back in the D Mark days and some of these clubs have closed.

Herne-Horsthausen, for example, is gone. They used to have an indoor pool in the basement and there was a sign hanging nearby saying: he who ejaculates in the pool is immediately ejected from the club.

Here is a link to the Redcarpetmotherhomepage:

http://www.fkk-200nackedeis.de/index2.html

As you glide your pointer over the individual clubs, their home page addresses come up. Haven't tried it in a while so I can't confirm that all the links work.

Ooops.. the link is gone...

Breadman
02-16-07, 19:16
http://web.archive.org/web/20060423070234/http://www.fkk-200nackedeis.de/index2.html

Jackyo
02-17-07, 10:08
http://web.archive.org/web/20060423070234/http://www.fkk-200nackedeis.de/index2.html
Cool! This is the link I was trying to find!

Breadman
02-17-07, 19:55
Jackyo, I used http://www.archive.org/web/web.php in order to find the page you were talking about.

Your page no longer works...but the link above lets you sometimes see what the link used to look like.

Willem2
05-09-07, 00:50
In fact all those clubs were owned by one man. In every club he put the same carpet because it was much cheaper ;).

But the whole chain off clubs changed of owners because the man whichowned all those clubs is now in jail. I will try to find some reports.

Dirty Dawg 33
05-10-07, 02:08
I see that the websites for these clubs is down - is anyone able to confirm whether the clubs are still open?

Willem2
05-10-07, 10:01
I see that the websites for these clubs is down - is anyone able to confirm whether the clubs are still open?Most of this clubs are still open with a new management.

Jackyo
05-10-07, 11:16
I see that the websites for these clubs is down - is anyone able to confirm whether the clubs are still open?
... but they now have different owners.

The F39 club in Bochum is owned by the same Turkish dude who owns Artemis in Berlin, zum Beispiel.

Dirty Dawg 33
05-12-07, 23:54
OK, thanks.

How recent was this change? I was last over in November.

Usually I end up in Gelsenkirchen or Recklinghausen are these still open? Have the pricing or standards changed? Or is it basically the same set-up?

Dirty Dawg 33
05-14-07, 09:55
Not much info on it but these clubs have a new website

http://www.fkk-vitalis.de/

Will be over there next week so will post a report.

Jackyo
05-14-07, 11:18
Not much info on it but these clubs have a new website

http://www.fkk-vitalis.de/

Will be over there next week so will post a report.
I haven't been to a Red Carpet for a very long time and it looks like there is new ownership which is reviving these four clubs.

The Grimbergsauna was one of the first FKK clubs I ever visited. One of the first where I had public sex (she impaled herself on me on the couch).

This brings back memories.

Dirty Dawg 33
06-09-07, 08:10
So visited Romantika last week and I have toi report that nothing seems to have changed. Same prices, same decor, same girls. Pick of the bunch for me was Natasha a Lithuanian blonde who would be an absolute stunner if she lost 10kg. She's pretty though and gave me decent OWO on the couch before we headed up to the room. Great GFE including DFK, DATY and BBBJTC - all for €25.

Didn't really fancy any of the other providers (had had them all at some point previously), went with African Tessie but my heart wasn't in it so settled for BBBJTC again.

Confirmed that the ownership of thesxe clubs has indeed changed with the previous owner in jail as previously reported. The new owners are "not as nice" apparently but this seems to have had no impact on the business from the customer point of view.

Jackyo
06-09-07, 09:25
This is a description of the Gladbeck club by Noeppi from the RF.


Hei zusammen :-), wusste garnicht, dass meine Statements so gefragt sind. Seit Oktober bin ich nun eingschrieben? Bin halt ein fauler Schreiberling, aber okay wenn ihr es wollt, kann ich gerne mal was schreiben. Bin Stammgast in Gladbeck aber auch inder Freude39, sowie gelgentlich in GE-GRimbergSauna, sowie Villa Arabella.
Zu Gladbeck kann ich sagen, dass hier die Preise echt in Ordnung sind. Die Mädels sind von der Qualität her nicht ganz so top wie in der Freude aber ordentlich, Wie gesagt Eintritt kostet 25 €. Der Club ist realtiv klein aber sehr gemütlich und hat so zwischen 7-12 Mädels zu bieten. Er ist sehr sauber bietet einen kleinen Pool und Sauna. Zu Essen gibts auch immer lecker Brötchen und genügend Auswahl, abends kommt wohl warmes Buffet( war aber noch nicht abneds da). Die Zimmer sind bis auf das nachträglich eingerichtete große Zimmer( vorher Buffetraum) sehr klein und auch die Betten sind arg kurz (nix für 2 Meterleute)
Nun zum essentiellen, den Mädels : Sehr große Bulgaren und Rumänen Fraktion (70%) Aber auch Polen und Lettland ist präsent. Meine Favs sind einmal Moni ca. 25 aus Lettland (üppig bestückt,sehr zärtlich und läuft aus, wenn man sie richtig leckt) Worauf sie sich dann mit tollen FO revanchiert. Nachteil sie küsste nicht. Dasgleiche gilt für Denis (Halb Tschechi halb Türkin) Sie ist so die Stimmungskanone im Laden immer gut drauf und ganz witizig. Auch sie hat etwas zuviel auf den Rippen aber ich mag sowas. Dann ist da noch Vanessa aus Rumänien, sie mwar wohl schonmal im GT beschäftigt. Ich mag ihre tollen Titten. Auch sie ist sehr freundlich und und geht gut ab, wenn man sie leckt.
Naja so hat jeder seinen Geschmack, und meiner ist auf jedenfall dabei.
Achja die Preise sind folgendermaßen gestaffelt

20 min = 30 €
30 min = 40 €
45 min = 60
60 = 80

Aufnahme kostet 25 € extra.

So ich hoffe, ich konnte euch einigermaßen aufklären in Sachen Gladbeck und vielleicht sieht man sie da ja mal.

Bis denne Noeppi
Fazit: He knows the former Red Carpet clubs well as he is a Stammgast at Gladbeck, F39, the Grimbergsauna and Villa Arabella. The Gladbeck girls aren't at the same level as the F39 girls but pricing is in order. The entry fee is 25 Euros. The club is small, clean and there are from seven to twelve women who work there. There is a small pool and sauna. There is food and even a warm buffet in the evenings (though he has not yet been there in the evenings). The rooms are small and the beds aren't for tall folks. There is a large Bulgarian and Romanian selection (70%). Poland and Latvia are also represented. His favorites are Moni, Denise and Vanessa. (I have made notes to look for Moni and Vanessa as they, in particular, like being licked). Pricing is 30 Euros for 20 minutes, etc.. with an hour for 80 Euros.

Dirty Dawg 33
06-09-07, 11:18
Gladbeck is Blue Lagoon, right?

Jackyo
06-09-07, 11:50
Gladbeck is Blue Lagoon, right?
Blaue Lagune is in Kaarst.

Gladbeck is a town in its own right and is described as follows on its website:


Gladbeck liegt verkehrsgünstig in der Emscher-Lippe-Region an der Schnittstelle zwischen Ruhrgebiet und Münsterland. Das Oberzentrum Essen befindet sich in unmittelbarer Nähe.
Über die Bundesstraße 224 bestehen direkte Anbindungen an die Autobahnen A2/E34 und A52.
Gladbeck is in the Emscher-Lippe region between the Ruhrgebiet and Muensterland. Essen is in the immediate area. There are direct connections between the A2/E34 and A52 via Federal road 224 (B224).

Willem2
06-11-07, 11:31
Blaue Lagune is in Kaarst.

Gladbeck is a town in its own right and is described as follows on its website:

Gladbeck is in the Emscher-Lippe region between the Ruhrgebiet and Muensterland. Essen is in the immediate area. There are direct connections between the A2/E34 and A52 via Federal road 224 (B224).There is also a small club in Gladbeck called Blaue Lagune : http://www.saunaclub-blauelagune.de/

They have opened also a new club close to the dutch border in Goch : http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/

Jackyo
06-12-07, 01:49
There is also a small club in Gladbeck called Blaue Lagune : http://www.saunaclub-blauelagune.de/

They have opened also a new club close to the dutch border in Goch : http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/
Good to know! Danke!

SvenFKK
06-18-07, 14:35
For a while now, the URLs for the red-carped clubs haven't been working. Presumably, this is due to the change in ownership. According to the few reports here, not much has changed from a customer point of view.

I was thinking about visiting Aplerbeck soon, but would like to have a look at the web site first, see some photos (I realise that they might not be up to date) and get telephone numbers, travel-route information etc.

Does anyone have a URL for all the clubs or for (a) particular club (s)?

Jackyo
06-20-07, 17:50
For a while now, the URLs for the red-carped clubs haven't been working. Presumably, this is due to the change in ownership. According to the few reports here, not much has changed from a customer point of view.

I was thinking about visiting Aplerbeck soon, but would like to have a look at the web site first, see some photos (I realise that they might not be up to date) and get telephone numbers, travel-route information etc.

Does anyone have a URL for all the clubs or for (a) particular club (s)?
.. by Breadman has a link to what used to be the URL for the entire Red Carpet chain.

564030

The club websites presumably all have individual URLS now but I've not come across a list so far.

Jackyo
12-14-07, 16:03
... now appear to be under the same ownership or management.

This site links to a new Red Carpet map to replace the old one:

www.fkk-vitalis.de

These former Red Carpet clubs appear to be under this same umbrella:

Vitalis, the Grimbergsauna, Villa Romantika, Villa Arabella and Bel Ami

This string of clubs, as you will see, goes from Duisburg in the West to Dortmund in the East; das heisst from one end to the other end of the Ruhrgebiet.

The Aldi in Dietzenbach is no longer in this chain, it appears.

The Alperbeck club in Dortmund, which was a part of this chain, was the one known for its far right wing orientation.

In contrast, Penelope in Essen had a mostly Turkish clientele.

Thank you to Travel1000 for pointing this out.

SvenFKK
12-27-07, 21:34
... now appear to be under the same ownership or management.

This site links to a new Red Carpet map to replace the old one:

www.fkk-vitalis.de

These former Red Carpet clubs appear to be under this same umbrella:

Vitalis, the Grimbergsauna, Villa Romantika, Villa Arabella and Bel Ami

This string of clubs, as you will see, goes from Duisburg in the West to Dortmund in the East; das heisst from one end to the other end of the Ruhrgebiet.

The Aldi in Dietzenbach is no longer in this chain, it appears.It still exists, though.

Thanks for the information.

Has anyone visited any of these recently?


The Alperbeck club in Dortmund, which was a part of this chain, was the one known for its far right wing orientation.

In contrast, Penelope in Essen had a mostly Turkish clientele.There were clubs other than Aplerbeck which catered to a German clientele, albeit somewhat more discreetly. If you asked, you were told that Dutch and even English was OK, but not Turkish, Arabic etc.

I wouldn't necessarily call this right-wing. Most German mongers are relatively low-key dudes who do it alone. Many of the Turkish and similar mongers are a bit rowdier and tend to visit clubs in groups. In other words, one probably needs more personnel to keep things in line.

Sure, in an ideal world, clients would be dealt with on an individual basis, but that's hardly possible in a club-type situation.

Wanking
05-10-08, 21:36
http://www.clubpenelope.de/

Continued from: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=741301&postcount=15

Note: Don’t know if this is still considered an FKK since the women were all covered.

Decided to take my two buddies to Club Penelope on May 8th, since I knew the entry would be cheap @ €20, and I simply didn’t want anymore sex after my 7 cums in PT Traumland the previous day. Taxi from the main station in Essen to the club cost 7 euro.

We arrived at bang on 12pm and departed exactly an hour later at 1pm. It’s the shortest time I’ve ever spent in a sex club in Germany. €20 entry, Big lounge upstairs with various sex rooms off it, and a large sauna. Strange that you have to cross the whole lounge while dripping with sweat to get from the sauna to the showers, seems like shit planning to me. More rooms downstairs and showers, and that’s about it. 2 TVs showing porn, and one showing football. Food amounted to the usual bread and cold meat, sausages and boiled eggs. Maybe there is a dinner in the evening? Drinks are limited to the usual non alcoholic fair.

5 women on duty and all second raters. 2 black, 2 blondes and 1 south American chick. All wearing Bikinis and making no effort to entice us at all. All women were in the 5/6 range. No couch action, no live sex, no nothing, fuckall boring nothing. One of my buddies went for a 20 minute session with one of the black girls for €25, and said it was pretty average. We then left and headed back into the city.

Conclusion. Not my cup of tea, but then again these days I only do partytreffs as I’m sure some of you know. I would only recommend this club for someone wanting a cheap quickie, and not as an all day event. You would simply die of boredom after a few hours in the place.

Next: Photos and video clip of a Street Prostitute in Dusseldorf that cost me €1.72
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=741056&postcount=61

Jackyo
05-13-08, 12:55
Hey WK,

Thanks for the update.

Haven't been here in years.

What has happened to the pool just off the living room? It was near the sauna and one could do a sauna, step out and jump into the pool.

Or has it gone the way of most pools these days? Did the board it up like they did the tiny pool at Bernds (it must still be there - I never really saw anyone use it over numerous visits)?

Babylon's pool. Gone. PHG's pool. Gone.

Wanking
05-13-08, 14:16
Hey WK,

Thanks for the update.

Haven't been here in years.

What has happened to the pool just off the living room? It was near the sauna and one could do a sauna, step out and jump into the pool.

Or has it gone the way of most pools these days? Did the board it up like they did the tiny pool at Bernds (it must still be there - I never really saw anyone use it over numerous visits)?

Babylon's pool. Gone. PHG's pool. Gone.No pool now dude.

Big30
07-06-08, 04:53
Babylon's pool. Gone. PHG's pool. Gone.

The indoor PHG pool has gone approximately 5 years ago that is true! But for almost 2 years PHG has a great outdoor pool, just like VV. I like clubs with pools like PHG and VV and of course Oase with a great outdoor pool.
Acapulca also has a great indoor pool.

A pitty Gt still has no outdoor pool!

Regards,
Big30

Breadman
07-06-08, 15:06
A pitty Gt still has no outdoor pool!

Regards,
Big30

Someone at the club told me they couldn't put in a pool due to the club being located on or near wetlands...ie the pond in the back. Anyone know if this is true?

Basketcase
07-06-08, 16:25
Someone at the club told me they couldn't put in a pool due to the club being located on or near wetlands...ie the pond in the back. Anyone know if this is true?

The story I heard from a group of regular ijsberen GT visitors is that the management wanted to put in heated pool and make it usable all year round. Having a pool as a centre piece that could only be used for a few months of the year would not make it worthwhile.

Some feasibility studies was conducted and a pricing obtained and it became quite cost prohibitive to execute an all weather pool.

Then again it could also be planning permission may be an issue with the nature reserves in the area.

I would had thought with technology the way it is that wetlands would not prevent a pool being built unless it was so heavy that the pool would sink as the water table could not support it.

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

SvenFKK
07-14-08, 16:54
http://www.mausi-und-team. De/ is the URL for the former red-carpet club in Aplerbeck. Has anyone been there recently? Is ist still FKK? Are there still standard prices (used to be EUR 25); the web page only mentions EUR 20 or 25 entrance depending on the time of day (same as before).

Varenne
07-16-08, 12:13
Is ist still FKK? Are there still standard prices (used to be EUR 25); the web page only mentions EUR 20 or 25 entrance depending on the time of day.It's FKK: all girls are wrapped in a towel. Service starts at 25€ for a 15' quickie (and that doesn't include couch foreplay), 40€ for 30' standard service, special services are to be discussed with the girls. Entrance is 20€ between 10.00-12.00 and 21.00-23.00, otherwise 35€. No service is offered after 23.00. Only Germans and Caucasian guests from selected countries are admitted, rule is stricktly enforced.

Jackyo
07-22-08, 15:17
.. looks to be alive and well based on its website:

http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/index.html

Photos of its interior show it to still have that distinctive Red Carpet decor.

Travel100
07-22-08, 15:32
.. looks to be alive and well based on its website:

http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/index.html

Photos of its interior show it to still have that distinctive Red Carpet decor.
Looks really Good. And only 20/euro Happy Hour entrance.

What do you think the price structure is like for time with the girls? Per 30/min., extra 30/min., and CIM?

I like the "Red Carpet" look, reminds me of my first FKK experience back in the "good 'old days" at Herne-Horsthausen.

Jackyo
07-22-08, 15:42
Looks really Good. And only 20/euro Happy Hour entrance.

What do you think the price structure is like for time with the girls? Per 30/min., extra 30/min., and CIM?
From what I've been able to figure out its 40 Euros for 20 minutes, 80 Euros for 40 minutes.

I guess they had to raise the session rates to compensate for the low entry fees.

I've not been to figure out how much extras cost.

Creature2
07-22-08, 16:36
.. looks to be alive and well based on its website:

http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/index.html

Photos of its interior show it to still have that distinctive Red Carpet decor.


It reminds me of FKK39 Freude in Bochum, that I recently visited. Any organic relations between these two clubs?

Jackyo
07-22-08, 16:49
It reminds me of FKK39 Freude in Bochum, that I recently visited. Any organic relations between these two clubs?
... used to belong to the same person as they were both part of the Red Carpet chain.

Don't know if that relationship continues.

What is certain is the F39 and Artemis in Berlin belong to the same Turkish dude.

Varenne
07-23-08, 18:26
From what I've been able to figure out its 40 Euros for 20 minutes, 80 Euros for 40 minutes.Happened to be there yesterday. Price I was quoted is 40 Euro for 20 minutes and 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Extras must be agreed upon with the girl, I haven't asked any further.

I had 2 sessions:

- Vanessa (German, blond, built up), friendly and charming. She charged me 40 for a standard session (20 minutes, not counting couch action).

- Angie from the web site, a stunner, also good, but more professional and didn't DFK. We technically finished session within the 20 minutes, but we chit-chat afterwards up to 25 minutes. Then she tried to charge me 50 at first, but we rapidly settled for 40.

The place resembles indeed F39, still dark and quiet, but smaller, friendlier, and cleaner. Selection is limited though in comparison (but varied enough for every taste), and no food is offered. I praise both clubs highly.

Jackyo
09-05-08, 07:54
Seems that Mausi has taken over this former Red Carpet in Dortmund and renamed it.

http://www.mausi-und-team.de/

Entry is 20 Euros before noon and 35 Euros after. Thirty minutes cost 50 Euros.

Not a large club which can be compared to the destination clubs but more for locals.

Seems that its former Red Carpet sister, F39, is most frequently named as an alternative. Its down the road in Bochum.

Willem2
09-06-08, 04:04
Seems that Mausi has taken over this former Red Carpet in Dortmund and renamed it.

http://www.mausi-und-team.de/Jackyo wants to find the Alps in every club ;) :
The Alperbeck club It was FKK Aplerbeck.

It's a small club with not so many girls but the girls will give you a good service. If you look at the website you already can notice that some men aren't allowed in this club.

Jackyo
09-06-08, 13:45
Jackyo wants to find the Alps in every club ;) : It was FKK Aplerbeck.

It's a small club with not so many girls but the girls will give you a good service. If you look at the website you already can notice that some men aren't allowed in this club.
That German flag on the front page features the fette Henne or the fat hen, by the way.

Funny but some of the guys on the RF were asking if Mausi would actually work the other side of the counter. Someone should go and ask her. :)

Some of the photos feature an American flag in the background. There is one with a woman standing in front of it with a very prominent untrimmed bush for fans of the natural look.

They name someone in Denver, CO in the Impressum, interestingly enough.

Fats
09-06-08, 21:03
They name someone in Denver, CO in the Impressum, interestingly enough.

Yes, an address in Denver with a Las Vegas Zip Code--as Arte Johnson would say "Very Interesting."

Mark User
10-23-09, 11:15
The "real" price is 35 euros to enter, and 30 euros per session. But they advertise now:

http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/

that entrance is FREE, and that the first girl costs 65 euro (35 for the house, 30 for the girl), etc. then if you go with 2 girls the total would be 95, and if you go with three girls, the total would be 125 euro. If you go with no girls, you then pay the house 35 euros.

So 3 sessions at 125 compares to 3 "large club FKK" sessions at 220 or so (70 entrance plus 50 per session).

About half of the girls there last week were quite doable, but show very little interest it seemed to me. You have to be willing to initiate and that can be hard as they tend to congregate up near the bar taking up all the couch room themselves and chatting. My "theory" is that they take turns with only 2 or 3 girls working the floor, and you should take your choice from them.

Since I had known several of the girls (Beatrice, Anna, Paulina), I just made sure I was well rested between sessions (having them leave you alone is good for this), and just went to the girls even if they were in the barroom and asked them to join me.

Some of the older punters didn't do this, and I saw at least one fellow leave and have to pay the 35 euros for sitting around, showering, sauna, but no action.

Now what I really like is that this place still has substantial couch action with BBBJ, kissing, sucking on breasts, playing with pussy, etc. After getting one sufficiently heated up, the "here or zimmer" is asked. I have seen guys choose to just go on the couch and in a few minutes it was over. I always choose zimmer as it seems you get a new clock once you get to the room.

Beatrice was one of the first I went with a few years ago, and seeing her again rev'd the engines and we had a very extended time on the couch and then in the room.

Close to FRA airport, less expensive than most, no food, but your stay would likely only be a 2-3 hours at most, I would guess.

Mark

Toscana
10-23-09, 11:33
Dietzenbach:

thanks very much for the report.

What age would you put the girls at generally?

Mark User
10-23-09, 11:46
Dietzenbach:

thanks very much for the report.

What age would you put the girls at generally?

Wide range. From low 20's to mid 30's. None appeared to be 18-20. None appeared old or haggard!

Looks: a few thin, a few more supple. None that I wouldn't enjoy.

Creature2
10-23-09, 18:14
Dietzenbach:

thanks very much for the report.

What age would you put the girls at generally?


Russian Jessi should be over 40 y.o. but she is attractive and I saw her once, deep kissing and fore-playing over the couches a local customer for about 20 minutes before heading the zimmer.

Angie is a young tall blond, but be careful, she has a bit sharky attitude.

Creature2
10-23-09, 18:15
The "real" price is 35 euros to enter, and 30 euros per session. But they advertise now:

http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/

that entrance is FREE, and that the first girl costs 65 euro (35 for the house, 30 for the girl), etc. then if you go with 2 girls the total would be 95, and if you go with three girls, the total would be 125 euro. If you go with no girls, you then pay the house 35 euros.

So 3 sessions at 125



That price should be for three 20 minutes sessions. If I recall well, they charge 50 Euro for 30 minutes sessions. Or did they decreased the price per sessions (30 min)?

Mark User
10-23-09, 18:27
That price should be for three 20 minutes sessions. If I recall well, they charge 50 Euro for 30 minutes sessions. Or did they decreased the price per sessions (30 min)?

I don't actually remember anything about time mentioned! Maybe I wasn't paying attention. I'm not a clock watcher, and I had 3 very substantial sessions, clearly more than 30 minutes total if you add couch time plus room time, so I wasn't complaining (and apparently wasn't noticing!)

on this page: http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/preise.html
they say nothing about time, just "x".

As I said, it never mentions, and I don't remember the hausfrau saying anything about time. Just "1 girl 65, 2 girls, 95..."

Maybe next trip I can ask. Heck, by then they will have changed the pay pattern again, likely! It's been different every time I go there for the last several years! (pay the house, pay the girls direct, pay some to the house some to the girls, etc)

Creature2
10-23-09, 18:37
I don't actually remember anything about time mentioned! Maybe I wasn't paying attention. I'm not a clock watcher, and I had 3 very substantial sessions, clearly more than 30 minutes total if you add couch time plus room time, so I wasn't complaining (and apparently wasn't noticing!)

on this page: http://www.fkk-40-dietzenbach.de/preise.html
they say nothing about time, just "x".

As I said, it never mentions, and I don't remember the hausfrau saying anything about time. Just "1 girl 65, 2 girls, 95..."

Maybe next trip I can ask. Heck, by then they will have changed the pay pattern again, likely! It's been different every time I go there for the last several years! (pay the house, pay the girls direct, pay some to the house some to the girls, etc)


Those ex-red carpets and small clubs change their price structure so often. You should check it out before paying a visit.
Once in a small red carpet club in Gelsenkirschen, I saw two different pricing in two consecutive days.

Last time I was in Dietzenbach, back in January, there was an offer of free entrance and 2 girls for 85 Euro, 3 girls 105 Euro, 5 girls 150 Euro. But I didn't chose this offer, I simply paid the happy hour entrance (25E) and I bought 2 x 20 min (for 40E each). I asked Angie for 15 min - 30E service but she says most of the girls won't do that (even the thekefrau cleared at the entrance, it was available).

Creature2
11-14-09, 06:54
As I said, it never mentions, and I don't remember the hausfrau saying anything about time. Just "1 girl 65, 2 girls, 95..."




Did they ask you upon your entry, how much you are gonna spend? And did you paid the fee at the entrance to the thekefrau?

Varenne
11-17-09, 01:21
According to their web homesite, Saunaclub Arabella (http://www.arabella-fkk.de/) in Bochum and Grimberg Saunaclub (http://www.grimberg-fkk.de/) in Gelsenkirchen have turn themself into bareback sex clubs.

Each one claims to have 15 girls offering bareback sex (A.O.).

Both clubs offer free entry and interesting multiple sessions offers:

Saunaclub Arabella: 1x40€, 2x65€, 3x80€
Grimberg Saunaclub: 1x55€, 2x75€, 3x85€, 4x95€ (and starting from 21:00, special offer 1x45€, 2x65€, 3x80€)

Might be a good alternative to those partytreff which offer single room service. Anybody can report his first hand experience?

Sad Sam
11-23-09, 20:48
Any reports from mebers on these recently mentioned clubs? They certainly seem less expensive and unlike the parties, seem to offer 1:1 GFE time, which I am into. 3 of them seem to be under the same management since they have links to each other. Any info about the girls, services would be greatly appreciated!

Creature2
11-25-09, 07:57
According to their web homesite, Saunaclub Arabella (http://www.arabella-fkk.de/) in Bochum and Grimberg Saunaclub (http://www.grimberg-fkk.de/) in Gelsenkirchen have turn themself into bareback sex clubs.

Each one claims to have 15 girls offering bareback sex (A.O.).

Both clubs offer free entry and interesting multiple sessions offers:

Saunaclub Arabella: 1x40€, 2x65€, 3x80€
Grimberg Saunaclub: 1x55€, 2x75€, 3x85€, 4x95€ (and starting from 21:00, special offer 1x45€, 2x65€, 3x80€)

Might be a good alternative to those partytreff which offer single room service. Anybody can report his first hand experience?

I have been to Grimberg twice. It was fun. Nice club, nice rooms, self service drink, no food, decent line-up near to the FKK quality with some German girls as well (which is rare to find in partytreffs) and really a nice alternative to partytreffs. I think I posted my reports in other FKKs thread. Will check and give the links later.

Went to Arabella also and refused entry, they said I can't speak German ! And the club was just for German speaking guest! WTF!

Breadman
11-25-09, 21:57
Each one claims to have 15 girls offering bareback sex (A.O.).



Bareback sex or does the 'without' refer to the girls being in the nude? Creature2, since you visited one of the clubs what's the ruling?

Creature2
11-26-09, 14:54
Bareback sex or does the 'without' refer to the girls being in the nude? Creature2, since you visited one of the clubs what's the ruling?


Most of the girls were naked in Grimsberg Sauna and some of them wears sexy panties. When you go to the room, the girls offer you (or try to upsell)bareback sex without condom. Later, I asked what was the extra for it, and been told it was 50 Euro extra per session (where the sessions, itself, were cheaper than that). Romanian and Bulgarian girls offer bareback. Quite the contrary, there were some German, half-pro girls who refuses this service, as well.

I dont have any information about Arabella, but as long as I saw via the entrance, there were totaly naked woman in the club. If their web site announce "Alles Ohne", this should mean, the girls perform bareback sex, even bareback anal, if asked or requested.

Creature2
06-09-10, 16:48
bel ami

day 1

this is my second visit to fkk belami. here it is my first time visit report back in december, last year.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=968486&postcount=3022

as the girls are wearing bikinis in belami, it is rather a sauna club, actually. but some still call it fkk. it was different in sauna grimsberg in gelsenkirchen (it is once upon a time sister club) where all the girls were totaly nude (this should be actually an fkk). this is rather complicated.

even it is a sauna club or a fkk club, i really appreciated bel ami on my last visit. and it was on my radar when in the area. the chance to revisit there arised last weekend, when i was in the area to attend a messe.

http://www.belami-fkk.de/1.htm

i reached the club at 8ish. it was the friday and the parking lot was full. i buzzed and walked in. the thekefrau was different this time and she can speak fluent english. as the pricing structure change so quickly in these former red carpet clubs, i was suspicious about the price (once, i visited sauna grimsberg two consecutive days and the structure was different on both visit. and the real price is sometimes slightly different than announced in the web. no cheating but their web is not that accurate, so it is better to phone before showing up). the price choices this time was like that. this shows the price for the number of session (of 20 minutes each)
1x45 euro
2x70 euro
3x85 euro
4x95 euro

the thekefrau asked me my choice. i reply 4, she gave me a wristband, my key, two towels and my card for four sessions. this friday, there were 23 girls in bel ami.



in weekends, they serve food. so, before deciding, i get the food. there is a nice choice of giro and salad. the food is ok and this time, as the weather was nice in nrw, i had my food in openair. last time, i didn’t had the opportunity to discover the outdoor garden. now, i see that they have enough space but the garden needs some care. they have also a whirpool there, where two of the girls taking bath. when i was having my dinner outside, i saw that a group of girls eating, smoking and chating. this let me to survey and have a preliminary choice.


anastacia

this weekend, there were enough charming girls to fulfill my desire and to fulfill my wristcard, i though. i spotted a nice girl with blue eyes. at first sight, from a distance look, i though she may be joana i sessioned 7 months ago in villa venus-dusiburg, but when i looked her from close distance, i realised this is a much younger girl, according to web info, she is 23. i guessed she was german, but wrong guess. she told she was russian, this better works for me. she told that her name is anastassia, her pictures in the web, she has deep blue eyes and perfect skin. i asked her if the dfk is allowed, she confirmed that this is an extra of 5 euro. a real cheap extra, so gattonero should be right, but i couldn’t see any board announcing the tarif fort he extras, on the other hand.

i take anastassia as my first choice. in the room, i asked if i can buy the extra of dfk but she told she doesn’t do that and added; “you should ask other girls”. her english was broken but still ok. she has a nice skin, perfect, tiny and tight body. she rushed me a bit so i released my load in 12 minutes. her skills wasn’t that good as she was a teen, but more experimented girls has not the same tight body? or do they have?
after my first session, we went to theke and i paid 95 euro for all my four sessions, already, in advance. so, please be carefull and please read the deep note ps3. and everytime after your session, you come to theke and they write the name of the girl and if any extra taken or not.

gaby

second choice was gaby. she is a nice girl from poland. i surveyed her being always with guys in the couches. she had some admirer. i waited the right time when she was not busy and complimented her in polish language. she is also beautiful, on my scale. she is more beautiful than its pictures in the web. i take her immediately to the room. wow, in the room, what a super performance. a real sucker, nice and long bbbj skill. later, i turned it into mish, then doggy and spoon, because of her super performance and my suck was stil fully loaded, because of the horniest, i exploded into her after 15 min.

after this great performance, i knew i wouldn’t find the same service level from another girl in bel ami, so i considered to repeat here. but i was also in dilemma, because there were so many attractive girls in bel ami, and i had only two more place on my card. should i repeat the best service provider or should i screw some more beautiful pussies, even i know the next sessions would be crap. here is the conversation of this dilemma (credit to plover23 for the inspiration of brain-dick conversation)

brain says;” you should repeat gaby. it is hard to find this service level in a red carpet.
dick replies: “no, i should screw that lady in red, she is a stunner”
brain says: “she is a bulgarian. probably, it will be the worst session of the day”
dick replies: “i need to have her, otherwise i won’t obey your order any more, i won’t get it up and sleep all day long
brain complies.


bahar

she is the tall and slim lady in the red. she has a nice figure and a nice face. but when i speak to her, i get at once she is a shark (a shark in a red carpet? this is only 20 euro/session). she offered a trio with her bulgarian girlfriend which i didn’t accept. my crazy dick wanted her alone. if i don’t do with her, probably, it may punish me! before going to the room with her, i asked permission to go to the toilet to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), then i cleaned myself in the shower. when we gone to the room, she told my dick is not cleaned enough (this wasn’t true at all) and she will do cbj. i told i cleaned it in the shower but she put the condom for bj. then she says my dick was to thick form e and she forget her gelly at home. no problem for me, i told and i slided mine into hers, carefully. she told she has pain, i wish i could stop, my dick didn’t want to stop now. i convinced her to do some several positions and released my load after 20 min. even this should be a success to stay 20 min with a bulgarian girl in the room. my brain wasn’t satisfied at all but my dick was obviously satisfied. i can see the production.



melina

ok, this was my last chance (actually, it wasn’t the last chance. when your card finishes, you may still stay in the club and pay the girls directly 20 euro, after each sessions). should i repeat gaby? but dick has another option. there was another, very beautiful, bulgarian young girl, with the loveliest hip i have ever see in this club. she told me her name was melisa, but in the web, i found a picture of an italian girl named melina. i checked her picture and her buttock. she should be the same bulgarian girl. when she was walking in front of me the whole night, i was always thinking this should be the best butt in the world and if a man only have these to touch or sleep with, what else can dream.

i decided to speak with her and scan her. she told she was also bulgarian. this should be a “no go” under normal condition. this is a red flag for a bad service.

brain told; “no go, she isn't good. go and fuck gabi”
dick told; “gabi is not available right now”
brain told; “she will be available soon”
dick told; “melina would not stay alone. somebody else will take her, if you don’t do it”
brain told; “you will be disappointed after you go out the room”
dick told; “only jlo has the same butt, i should pump her, and beside, you can choose gabi as your fifth session, any time”

dick won the battle, i take melina to the room. service was crap, of course, but she has a lovely, white, pale body. in the room, dick pumped that white butt for about 20 min, until it is dead because of dehydration, it gave the last drops to melina. dick was happy before dying, brain wasn’t satisfied again.

brain was searching gabi, for a repeat session, but she was always busy. it was now 4 am and i was drained out, i called it a night. when changed and went out, it was dusk, early little birds singing their love songs in german. i take my german rental car, and hardly drove to my hotel on 15 km away (mainly because of the fatigue). when i get my hotel room, i slept with ease, because both my dick and my brain was tired but they were happy. i had a lovely whole night for just 95 euro. i like travelling across germany.

next day, day 2, will be followed by another former red carpet club fkk salome where i met some russian and some polish chicks. so, the addicted to polish and russians, stay tuned till next episode.

ps1: credit of brain and dick conversation to plover23. thanks again pal, to give this inspiration to write such a colorfull report.

ps2: i believe the majority of the customers were turkish but there were also some german customers in the club. the music, the speaking language by the clientele and by some girls is also turkish. i made some conversations with some of the turkish customers, they are mostly easygoing, funny guys. they says that bel ami was much better, before. and if there is a stunner and a high performer girl, the owner pick her to invest in another of his clubs. the former vitalis chain disappeared but there still should be some sort of chain, at least in nrw. i am disappointed, i couldn’t see those days with deutsche mark. maybe,those were the days… but i am still happy with those former red carpets, what it is today, as good as it gets…

ps3: those local regular turkish guys are very clever! i saw many of them entering the club by asking only one shot but later, they keep staying in the club for long hours and they check the line-up. if they click with some girls, or if they see new girls arrived, after their first session, they pay it directly to the girl. check the price list once more! the club always want to have its cut, even they says the entrance is free, they want to receive 25 euro as an entrance money, the rest is for the girls. if you want to do shoot two rounds, paying directly is more economical, and shooting once or three make no difference, either paying the whole amount to the club or to the girls directly, just bring with you some 20 euro notes, that’s all. only if you know that you will spend four rounds (which is the most cheapest per sessions) at any cost, just then you should commit for four rounds. otherwise, if you commit while entering four rounds and you don’t like the line-up, you may ruin your day.

Captain America
10-10-10, 06:04
Hi C2, you inspired me to take a closer look. Went ther at 11, first guest to arrive. Found out Gaby works eveniungs only as that is a much busier time for this club.
Took Lea, 1.81m blond ukrainian, for my first session and enjoyed it a lot. when asked she told me many of teh other girls are bulgarian and only want to get to the room and out of teh room as quickly as possible.
Almost went with Bahar because she is so hot, but, remembering C2's session, asked another punter that had beat me to her and he re-affirmed C2's assessment. nothing but "don't do that", "not like this" etc. Still, she is very beautiful so had to hold back for the rest of my stay.
Afetr a rst cuddled up with isabella on a sofa. no couch action, but we were just talking and no hurry to go to the room. Good session but could nto finihs, so back to teh main area.
By the way, most of the girls will not DO CIM, even though they all quote teh $25 add-on. Also, no lunch at this club.
Saw nothing else so finihsed up with another session with Lea that was as good as teh first. mutual massage, then back to the showers and out of there after a total time of about 3 hours.
I may go back, but I would definitely check if lea was there first. She only works 3-4 days a week, so a call may be worth it. Oh, and I was leaving at 2 or so, a bunch of new girls were arriving. Second shift, I would guess....

Creature2
10-17-10, 10:57
Hi C2, you inspired me to take a closer look. Went ther at 11, first guest to arrive. Found out Gaby works eveniungs only as that is a much busier time for this club.
I may go back, but I would definitely check if lea was there first. She only works 3-4 days a week, so a call may be worth it. Oh, and I was leaving at 2 or so, a bunch of new girls were arriving. Second shift, I would guess....


Hi Captain,

I am glad that you enjoyed Bel Ami. If you liked the atmosphere in it, may I also suggest you to check Penelope in Essen. The girls are more beautiful, and there are more slavic girls such as some Russians and some Polish. The price is slightly higher than Bel Ami and always, there is no good food (except weekends), so you can't resist hunger and can't stay in any of those low cost FKKs, more than a couple of hours.

Thanks also for the update,
All the best
C2

Optimist
12-31-10, 16:28
Arrived here in desperation. It was my fourth choice but the first three were blocked by huge traffic jams and falling snow. A word of thanks to Wanking for his map of all the clubs in the area.

Club site.

http://fkk-arabella.com/

Free entry plus 1 session=40€.2=65€.3x=75€. You have to decide on which option you are going for on the way in. You pay upfront before you change. You are given a wristband with a pullout. The girls seem to give you kudos if you enter the main room having chosen a top option.

The bar staff explained very carefully where the lockers were etc, very happy to deal with a foreigner whose german was minimal.

The overall impression was a very downbeat place. But then what does one expect for free entry. There was little to do (although I think there is a sauna) apart from sitting on sofas which were spread over two main rooms and were occupied by about 15 girls. Free drinks are available as is basic fod (e. G. Soup and filled rolls)

The girls are (almost all) a little overweight, young, not particularly pretty, and from Rumania or Bulgaria. They were generally friendly and unpushy. very very limited knowledge of English. The club would not suit an optikficker. It is somewhere for someone who wants a lot of activity at reasonable prices. For example one could have four sessions (perhaps 10-20 minutes) for 85E compared to a total of entry and session (30 minutes) price of 265E in a Hessen top rank club. The girls' attitude was no worse than in the top rank clubs. So excellent amount of bang for buck literally.

Unsure what the extra for anal would be. Some girls will offer BB for 30E (which has to be paid direct to them after the session). It's a way of boosting their income considerably.

Mike De H
04-27-11, 17:26
The girls are (almost all) a little overweight, young, not particularly pretty, and from Rumania or Bulgaria.Sounds rather good really. Just my kind ofplace. Why is it "Red Carpet"?

Breadman
04-27-11, 19:35
Why is it "Red Carpet"?


In fact all those clubs were owned by one man. In every club he put the same carpet because it was much cheaper.

Just refers to the color of the carpet in the small clubs that were more prevalent than the larger clubs today.

When I first started the fkk scene, it was the smaller 'red carpet' type clubs. Heavensgate, Cocoon, Dolce Vita etc. The selection was limited but you had some very hot local talent and a limited customer base.