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I was often in Thailand but never in The Philippines. But, I thinking about going to AC.
From the pic here I would say the Phil babes looks better than the usual Pattaya Thai Chicks from Isan.
Well, now to the questions.
As far I understand the barfine is quite high in AC, regarding to Pattaya. The difference is the bar fine includes the money for the girl, or? Just a tip from 300 Peso or so is usual, or?
What is with Anal, do Philippine girls this?
AC do not have a beach, or? What can tourists do at daytime?
How far is it from AC to Manila?
Can somebody recommend a good Hotel there for about 30 $ a day with Safty Box in the Room?
Barfine pays for the girl as well. Average BF prices ranges from 1000P to 1300P depending on the bar. Tip is optional, but not tipping can give you bad reputation in a bar. I tipped 500P for great service, 300P for average, and nothing for bad service.
I found anal and swallowers very hard to find. The easiest way to know is by going straight to mamasan and requesting a 3 holer.
The beach is about 2 hours away. Some people usually play golf. I was more than happy with just screwing, playing pool, or sleeping.
AC is about 2 hours from Manila by car. Average cost for the trip is 2500P.
I suggest you check this site http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html and research which hotel looks right for you. This site has maps of the bar areas and most of the hotels are there as well http://www.acmap.com/main.asp
Has anyone stayed at Central Park Hotel? It seems like a good deal at $29 per night and more importantly it has an in room safe. I did a search and could not find any information on it. I would also like information on other cheap hotels that have a in room safe. Thanks
Has anyone stayed at Central Park Hotel? It seems like a good deal at $29 per night and more importantly it has an in room safe. I did a search and could not find any information on it. I would also like information on other cheap hotels that have a in room safe. Thanks
The Central Park Hotel is quite nice: www.centralpark-ac.com
Most AC hotels have a room safe. Just scroll down a few posts and check out the website Whoring Bum suggested for a list of hotels in AC.
Poon Hunter
10-07-06, 07:51
I just wanted to thank everyone for putting up such great info. I usually monger in Tland, but I had to give PI a chance. So I'll be in Angeles tonight.
Reading off of peoples posts, seems like the suggestion are:
Illusions
Insomnia
Lollipops
Road House
Blue Nile
Is there a club called Century??? Also, any massage parlor info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Poon Hunter
Also, does anyone have any updated information on the Typhoon that just passed through? Is AC still standing? Are all the bars and hotels intact?
Aussie
The typhoon never really hit AC. So it's still standing. Checked Fields last nite and it looked pretty slow though, as far as customers go. Just get over here, the are a lot of surly looking fuglies with Jollibee paddings all over Fields waiting for you! Oh did I mention the US $ just get's you 49.70-49.80 at the money changers in AC now. These are hard times for lovers..Ha ha.
Any freelancers in Angel?
Where is possible to find them?
Oh, alot of good advice on my questions, thank you guys.
I think I will also go to the Philippines, end of October, instead LOS.
Maybe I shall stay a view days in Manila and after to AC. Is it easy to go score freebee in Manila Discos?
What are the best Nightclub or Disco in Manila? I guess in AC are no freelancer in Nightclubs like in Pattaya?
The Hotel prices in AC sounds reasonable.
Stayed at Central Park (CP) two trips ago and the experience was not good. Here is why:
My plane was two hours late and the driver from CP did not wait for me. He was on his way back to AC when I called him so he returned and picked me up at the APort. He had his wife with him. They both treated me like I was a leper. When I got to the hotel they charged me an extra 1000p for the pick-up. They said it was because the driver had to turn around and go back to the airport.
It did not stop there. During my stay I gave the desk clerks explicit instructions to call my room when a certain lady arrived. Two times they ignored my request and just turned her away.
Yes, the price for a room is great but, beware.
The Central Park Hotel is quite nice: www.centralpark-ac.com
Most AC hotels have a room safe. Just scroll down one post and check out the website Whoring Bum suggested for a list of hotels in AC.
Perimeter bars are cheaper in general. Local drinks (Beers and Rum/coke) all day are P50 and you can get P35 or P40 Happy Hour (the time changes depending on the bar).
Just one tiny little remark. In Perimeter Road the action starts already around lunchtime when most places at Fields are still closed. Consequently many Perimeter girls are booked at 8pm so that some bars shut at 10pm.
Cheers - Hesekiels
Stayed at Central Park (CP) two trips ago and the experience was not good.
Hello Bill,
Yeah many nice hotels lack good customer service which boils down to the how the hotel is managed. Did you lodge a complaint with the manager? Or maybe even drop a hint to the owner. Did you fly into Clark Field?
Frequent Flier
10-07-06, 20:07
Hi DG69,
One of the things I have found reading all of the back posts on this is spending time in Manila/Makati is a must!. I did not see one previous post that suggested not to. I am going to spend some time in those areas as well, because they have so much to offer plus you get to experience the culture of the Philippines during the day where in Angeles City there is none. I am going to spend a couple of days on what is called Burgos Street in Makati and will be staying at the Penninsula Hotel which has high marks here on the board. Senior and respected member Good Enough posted that this is his preferred choice for a hotel in this area. It is one of the more expensive hotels but you get what you pay for as the cliche goes. I am also going to spend some time mongering in the Manila area as the LA CAFE is a must from what I have read, and then I can also go to the Edsa Complex which is a series of bars that are enclosed under one roof. If you have not done so you REALLY need to do some reading of the past posts members made. Some of them are really awesome. Doing both the Manila area and Angeles City will also prepare you better for your future visits.
One more reason to visit the Makati/Manila area is the opportunity for sexual experiences available there that some have mentioned hard to find in AC. You are more likely to be successful finding two girls for a Threesome at the bars on P. Burgos street than in AC.
FF
One more reason to visit the Makati/Manila area is the opportunity for sexual experiences available there that some have mentioned hard to find in AC. You are more likely to be successful finding two girls for a Threesome at the bars on P. Burgos street than in AC.
I am most curious to learn a little more about that kind of sexual experience that one could have in Makati, but not in AC! I had, however, several times girls for a great threesome in the promised city of Pampanga. Now I am wondering what else could be more special in the capital? Maybe somebody can enlighten me?
Cheers - Hesekiels
There are a few things that I found confusing when I first did research on AC. So, for the benefit of those who have yet to go:
Taking a regular bus to Angeles (for the adventurous only) you actually get off at the bus terminal called Dau/ Mabalacat. Dau is the town just north of Angeles.
The bar area is quite a ways north of downtown Angeles.
There is a road running north south call MacArthur. Fron downtown Angeles going north you will hit the turn off for Fields ave, which runs east / west. If you continue on MacArthur you will pass the Clark AB entrance.
If you are in a taxi from Manila, it is easy to miss the Fields turn off. But immediately after Fields is the main gate entrance for Clark. Tell the taxi to turn left...and then you should be able to make another left to get onto Fields. I say "maybe" because I know there has been some development in that area, so things may have changed.
??? Can someone clarify. I remember by bus I ended up in Dau (to the north), but by taxi I came in from the south. Did the taxi get off the highway too early? Which exit do you use?
Going west on Fields (you can't go east) you will immediately be in the main bar area. Continuing on the name of the road changes to Don Juico Ave, but everyone calls it Perimeter because it runs along the south Permiter fence of the base (or what used to be a base). So Fields and Perimter are actually the same road.
By the way, EZ maps has a map of Angeles City as well as most other places mentioned on the Philippines board. You might also searchfor Waynes AC map.
X
Just one tiny little remark. In Perimeter Road the action starts already around lunchtime when most places at Fields are still closed. Consequently many Perimeter girls are booked at 8pm so that some bars shut at 10pm.
Cheers - Hesekiels
Frequent Flier
10-08-06, 18:22
I am most curious to learn a little more about that kind of sexual experience that one could have in Makati, but not in AC! I had, however, several times girls for a great threesome in the promised city of Pampanga. Now I am wondering what else could be more special in the capital? Maybe somebody can enlighten me?
Cheers - Hesekiels
I too have had Threesomes in AC as well as in Makati and in Hong Kong, since we are opening our souls here, with beautiful Filipinas. Actually it was a foursome in Hong Kong.
My point was that it does take some experience on who to pick and when asking for what you desire reading between the lines to be sure that you are going to receive what you expect from your two chosen companions.
In Makati I found more girls willing to do a threesome with no inhibitions. You know, once you get there it is more of a one on one experience with each girl while the other watches TV. More of the girls in Makati seem more mature or sensual about what they are doing. I guess that is the best way that I can explain.
In Hong Kong they are always asking if you would prefer this, but that is a different situation.
Also I have found girls in Makati more than willing to let you explore as long as they feel comfortable with you. Something I always strive to make the girl feel. I think that sometimes a mongers desire to be a king in this fine country is really why they find less than willing companions.
And in case some readers are not aware, the prices in Makati are much higher
FF
More of the girls in Makati seem more mature or sensual about what they are doing. I guess that is the best way that I can explain.
Indeed a highly interesting point! As far as I am concerned reason enough for a thorough comparing field study! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
I arrived in Manila last night at 11:00, and went to wait for my driver at the arrivals extension. As a side note, I was real interested in the Philippine immigration form, as their official email address is a Hotmail account (!!!) and it is apparently illegal to bring more than P10,000 (USD 200) into the country in pesos (other currency is okay). Weird.
When I arrived at the arrivals extension, one of the security guys started trying to pimp out one of his friends, who was waiting there for unknown reasons. Within 10 minutes of arriving in the PI, I got a cell phone number of a girl. I love this place!!!!
Since I booked so late (1 night ahead!), I couldn't get a room at Central Park, but I did use their driver (they seemed more okay with the late arrival than Amsterdam, which is where I'm staying). I think he was the same guy who was complained about in recent posts (he also had his wife along, who slept the whole way). But, unlike my fellow poster, he was perfectly nice to me, led me in some conversation, and let me snooze a little bit in the car on the way to AC. Also showed me some cool video on his mobile of his recent hike up Mt. Pinatubo. Didn't charge me any extra either.
Checked in with no problem at the Amsterdam, and went out to explore Fields. I started around 12:30 am.
Gilley's Roadhouse Grill - Tried this place first because Amsterdam gave me a free drink coupon. Walked in and was the only guy there. Girls were decked out in very nice schoolgirl-ish outfits, and while drank my free San Miguel, talked and joked with the girls on stage and the waitresses. When they found out I was a "cherry boy" to the PI, they started pointing out the "cherry girls" (yeah, right! hehe) in the bar. Two cute ones, Nove and Che-Che, promised they'd knock on my door after their work ended. Nice place, with no pressure for drinks, and a very good selection of pretty girls (at 1 am, there were about 15-20 girls there).
Angels - Walking back towards Amsterdam, decided to check this place out, because the touts outside were funny. Okay atmosphere, tons of girls, just dancing. About 4-5 other guys there too. Ended up just talking to the waitresses about AC and the area, as I told them I was too tired to take anyone home that night (and at that point, I was!) and was just enjoying the view. Also no pressure for lady drinks, though I tipped the waitress for talking to me for 20 minutes.
Blue Nile - Walked in, and walked right out. Thought it was Thailand rebranded for the PI. The most crowded place I saw last night, both in girls and customers, and while I'm sure it would be a real nice place when you're in a group, going in by myself just seemed odd. Went next door to -
Nero's Forum - Okay place, sat at the stage, joked with some of the dancers. Ended up talking to Melva, one of the waitresses, and buying her a drink. Offered to come back to my room and just give me a massage, and I told her I would think about it. Her fellow waitress, a little rotund thing, was almost insistent on me taking Melva home. Turned me off a little bit.
Dirty Duck - This place was below the standards of the other places, although it could have been the time of night. There were only 5 girls dancing, and to be honest, the hottest girl there was one of the waitresses! Ended up talking to her and one of the other waitresses, buying them both drinks, and then talking to the mamasan (who was real friendly) while the 2 waitresses massaged me at the table for about 20 minutes. Friendly place, just dead at 3:30.
By this time (3:30) it was late, a lot of the places were closed, and I was headed back to the Amsterdam when I heard my name from one of the Pilippino food joints on the road. It was some of the girls from Roadhouse, my first stop of the night. Went and chatted to them, but my mind was made up, and went back to Nero's Forum and barfined Melva for 1,200.
Amsterdam security was nonexistant at 4:00 am. The guard was asleep at the door, and the front desk didn't ask for the girl's ID or anything. So I'm going to be a little careful while I'm here.
Melva gave me a nice massage for about 45 minutes, then we had a very slow, very comfortable sex session without me even asking or expecting it, as I really was tired. It's a compliment to her hands that I was able to "wake up" in the first place!
We slept for a couple of hours, then she woke me up at 7 saying she was hungry. I let her go with 200 for food and trike, as I wanted to just go back to sleep, and did so.
So now I'm eating room service and planning my night. I'll try some of the bigger places tonight, and bring back a girl earlier. Still looking for a drinking partner in AC, if anyone else here is flying solo or if there's someone who wouldn't mind giving a "cherry boy" some pointers about AC. But at this point, I love this place (so much friendlier and cheaper than Thailand!!) and am probably going to extend my stay another couple of days, to a full week. Still not long enough!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I arrived in Manila last night at 11:00, and went to wait for my driver at the arrivals extension. As a side note, I was real interested in the Philippine immigration form, as their official email address is a Hotmail account (!!!) and it is apparently illegal to bring more than P10,000 (USD 200) into the country in pesos (other currency is okay). Weird.
When I arrived at the arrivals extension, one of the security guys started trying to pimp out one of his friends, who was waiting there for unknown reasons. Within 10 minutes of arriving in the PI, I got a cell phone number of a girl. I love this place!!!!
Since I booked so late (1 night ahead!), I couldn't get a room at Central Park, but I did use their driver (they seemed more okay with the late arrival than Amsterdam, which is where I'm staying). I think he was the same guy who was complained about in recent posts (he also had his wife along, who slept the whole way). But, unlike my fellow poster, he was perfectly nice to me, led me in some conversation, and let me snooze a little bit in the car on the way to AC. Also showed me some cool video on his mobile of his recent hike up Mt. Pinatubo. Didn't charge me any extra either.
Checked in with no problem at the Amsterdam, and went out to explore Fields. I started around 12:30 am.
Gilley's Roadhouse Grill - Tried this place first because Amsterdam gave me a free drink coupon. Walked in and was the only guy there. Girls were decked out in very nice schoolgirl-ish outfits, and while drank my free San Miguel, talked and joked with the girls on stage and the waitresses. When they found out I was a "cherry boy" to the PI, they started pointing out the "cherry girls" (yeah, right! hehe) in the bar. Two cute ones, Nove and Che-Che, promised they'd knock on my door after their work ended. Nice place, with no pressure for drinks, and a very good selection of pretty girls (at 1 am, there were about 15-20 girls there).
Angels - Walking back towards Amsterdam, decided to check this place out, because the touts outside were funny. Okay atmosphere, tons of girls, just dancing. About 4-5 other guys there too. Ended up just talking to the waitresses about AC and the area, as I told them I was too tired to take anyone home that night (and at that point, I was!) and was just enjoying the view. Also no pressure for lady drinks, though I tipped the waitress for talking to me for 20 minutes.
Blue Nile - Walked in, and walked right out. Thought it was Thailand rebranded for the PI. The most crowded place I saw last night, both in girls and customers, and while I'm sure it would be a real nice place when you're in a group, going in by myself just seemed odd. Went next door to -
Nero's Forum - Okay place, sat at the stage, joked with some of the dancers. Ended up talking to Melva, one of the waitresses, and buying her a drink. Offered to come back to my room and just give me a massage, and I told her I would think about it. Her fellow waitress, a little rotund thing, was almost insistent on me taking Melva home. Turned me off a little bit.
Dirty Duck - This place was below the standards of the other places, although it could have been the time of night. There were only 5 girls dancing, and to be honest, the hottest girl there was one of the waitresses! Ended up talking to her and one of the other waitresses, buying them both drinks, and then talking to the mamasan (who was real friendly) while the 2 waitresses massaged me at the table for about 20 minutes. Friendly place, just dead at 3:30.
By this time (3:30) it was late, a lot of the places were closed, and I was headed back to the Amsterdam when I heard my name from one of the Pilippino food joints on the road. It was some of the girls from Roadhouse, my first stop of the night. Went and chatted to them, but my mind was made up, and went back to Nero's Forum and barfined Melva for 1,200.
Amsterdam security was nonexistant at 4:00 am. The guard was asleep at the door, and the front desk didn't ask for the girl's ID or anything. So I'm going to be a little careful while I'm here.
Melva gave me a nice massage for about 45 minutes, then we had a very slow, very comfortable sex session without me even asking or expecting it, as I really was tired. It's a compliment to her hands that I was able to "wake up" in the first place!
We slept for a couple of hours, then she woke me up at 7 saying she was hungry. I let her go with 200 for food and trike, as I wanted to just go back to sleep, and did so.
So now I'm eating room service and planning my night. I'll try some of the bigger places tonight, and bring back a girl earlier. Still looking for a drinking partner in AC, if anyone else here is flying solo or if there's someone who wouldn't mind giving a "cherry boy" some pointers about AC. But at this point, I love this place (so much friendlier and cheaper than Thailand!!) and am probably going to extend my stay another couple of days, to a full week. Still not long enough!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Great write up. Looking forward to read more of your advanture. I am also a Cherry boy who will be going to AC for the first time in mid Nov.
Could someone detail the BJ bars in AC? Do they still exist? Any experiences appreciated!
Peace,
DF
good afternoon! crazy ami here, with day 2 of my angeles adventures.
having finished my day 1 report, i saddled up and headed out to explore some more. since i didn't leave my hotel room until 4 o'clock, i missed the bar's openings, but that wasn't what i wanted to do just yet.
walked a good ways down fields until i got to margarita station. it's a big place, with a large menu of food. had a lemonade, played some free pool, talked to some retirees. as i was sitting near the front facade (the front is covered by metal netting to let the air in), i talked with one of the street hawkers named cj, who actually impressed me by naming the capital of my home state in the us. if i ever need any fake viagra, i'll go to him! ha.
after ms, i walked back to the vicinity of my hotel while one of the retirees who i met showed me around and gave me some recommendations. to the credit of this board, nothing he mentioned was something that i hadn't heard about on this board before. kudos, gents!
after he shuffled off (around 5-ish), i went to blow road (santos rd, off of fields; take a right out of amsterdam, first side street on your left). the short time places were exactly what was described; little holes in the wall with 5 or 6 girls calling out for you. went into one because one of the girls called me harry potter (don't ask). ended up with *** (name forgotten), a 38-yr old veteran, and jane, a 19 year old newbie (so they said), who was incredibly short, cute, nice large breasts, and great energy. *** gave me an ice job bbbjcim which was okay, while i played with jane's body, and then to get *** out, told her i was shy, and then proceeded to have a nice session with jane for about 25 minutes. when i couldn't finish (after all, i had just finished with ***), she took it as a challenge ("this is my first short time, you need to cum!!!"), she gave me, hands down, one of the best bbbjs i have ever experienced, for about 45 minutes straight. when i was about to finish, she'd sense it, stop, and let me relax. don't remember which hole in the wall it was, but if you can find jane, she comes highly recommended. 1,200 pesos for st for both girls together (although not a true 3-way, wasn't asking for one). lasted about 2 hours total.
ate at the restaurant above treasure island on fields (aruzzo's? italian/european food, the jaegerschnitzel was huge and tasty), then headed off to some clubs. since i tend to wander up and down the street before picking a club at random, these are in no logical order, but if you want to find their location, pretty much every club in town is on www.acmap.com.
- classroom 2 - earlier that day, the boss, a white guy named tango, gave me his card and told me to come back. i thought, "why the hell not," and checked his place out first. nice place, about 20 girls, most around 5-6, a couple of 7-8s, and one 9 who was obviously new and very shy on the stage. had a san miguel, thanked tango, and moved on.
- insomnia - not impressed at all. i think i arrived right at a shift change (9:30??), because as i arrived, about 15 girls left the stage and disappeared, leaving about 10 girls on stage, most of them not incredibly pleasing to the eye. one "dancer" had flab hanging over her huge granny panties and kept trying to catch my eye.. *shudder* ended up drinking my san miguel and watching the yankees-tigers game which had just started on the tv at the bar. left after joking with mamasan that i wasn't leaving with a girl because i could "make myself happy just as easily."
- camelot - laid out very similarly to blue nile, but a seemingly friendlier atmosphere (imho). ended up spending a lot of money here, (comparatively for the pi) but only because i consciously thought to do so. talked with leidre, 2 other dancers, and 2 waitresses. leidre was very very cute, pretty schoolgirl-ish face, and also very new ("started 1 week ago..cherry girl").. all the girls are cherry girls, huh? riiiight. bought a round of drinks for the girls and got massages from all of them. got my picture taken by one of the roving cameramen with about 7 of the girls.. i have to pick the photo up tonight at the bar. thought about barfining leidre, but it was still early, and didn't want to walk in awkwardly tomorrow, and also didn't want to deal with a shy girl this night.
- bunny ranch - was walking back towards amsterdam from camelot, and one girl from this place stood in front of me and said, "sir! bunny ranch!" and raised her hands as if to block me, with a smile. i said, "oh, are you going to make me?" she laughed and said "aah! too big!" (i'm well over 6 ft tall, closer to 2 meters, actually) but she was nice and funny, so let her and another waitress lead me in "unwillingly." damn me, but i can't remember either of their names (had been drinking a bit by then), but they were both waitresses, not dancers, and were both very very cute, one taller and thinner, with a great smile and dark, almost indian skin, and the other was shorter and slightly bigger built, but still very nice and feminine. got along great with both of them, and we must have talked for over an hour. the taller one tried to catch me in a drunk mistake and said, "oh, you smart! you have iq of 99.9!" i looked at her and said, "that would make me stupid!" and did my forrest gump impression. she laughed and said most guys who she told that too didn't get the joke, and would just say thank you! so we laughed, and then she told her friend and another girl in tagalog about what we were laughing about...and they didn't get it either. i don't know, it was the highlight of my night, conversation wise. declined offer to barhop with them, as i was flying solo, and still had the intention of taking a girl home for some less intelligent action.
i then walked along fields, heading back towards amsterdam, and then saw a small side street with 3 clubs on it, butterfly rock, bar hoppin', and checkers. passed butterfly rock, and went into
- bar hoppin' - small bar, girls not that impressive, about 6 girls on stage, rating variously between 4-7. almost immediately asked to pick a girl, etc. i hate that. walked out.
- checkers - right next door (in same building), and later i found out that the same guy owns this place and bar hoppin', but checkers just had a better atmosphere. about 15 girls total, with about 6-7 on the stage at once. started getting the eye from a dancer sitting at the bar, and eventually had her come over. joralyn, been there for 2 months and according to one of the waitresses, her "best friend," she hadn't been barfined there yet. sure. anyway, we sat and kissed and generally fondled each other for about 2 hours. talked with the owner, don, an american guy who'd been there for about 7 years; good guy, gave me a free drink. finally ended up barfining joralyn for 1300 pesos, then returned to my room. great session, she was crazy and fun, and then we woke up at 10:00 this morning and went at it again. got the first experience of the girls not wanting to leave until you basically kick them out. luckily, amsterdam wanted me to change rooms that day (apparently someone had requested my specific room before i registered, so i moved to another room of the same quality), so i had to pack my stuff, etc, so i sent her on her way. but only after i took some pictures!! she was very very shy at first, but finally warmed up to it, so i was able to take a few pictures until she said "enough."
another great day. i've just ordered an in-house therapeutic massage from the front desk, so we'll see how that goes. stay tuned for tomorrow's report!
crazy ami
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Ami
Great post. I'll be there in 2 weeks. If you're still around, I'll have that beer with you.
Egg
The well known bj bars are on Santo's Street. Heaven, Balck Pearl, etc. As you walk down Santo's from fields they are on the right hand side.
On a good afternoon, with the right frame of mind, making your way down and having a beer here and there can be a lot of fun. Remember, the girls are not the best looking, however, my experience is they can be a lot of fun and very accomodating.
Most bars charge a 600p s/t barfine, or 1100 for l/t. I have had a bj in house, however, a girls working area is "very small." Once I had to stand on the bed.
A real hoot is the fact some of the bars are right across from the Wild Orchid. What a contrast, a new hotel trying to give off an appearance of elegance, and the good old Santo's Street girls acting up right across the street.
Some bars on Perimeter Road also offer in-house bj's, but the Santo's Street girls are masters of the art.
Could someone detail the BJ bars in AC? Do they still exist? Any experiences appreciated!
Peace,
DF
FireWalker
10-10-06, 20:18
The well known bj bars are on Santo's Street. Heaven, Balck Pearl, etc. As you walk down Santo's from fields they are on the right hand side.
On a good afternoon, with the right frame of mind, making your way down and having a beer here and there can be a lot of fun. Remember, the girls are not the best looking, however, my experience is they can be a lot of fun and very accomodating.
Most bars charge a 600p s/t barfine, or 1100 for l/t. I have had a bj in house, however, a girls working area is "very small." Once I had to stand on the bed.
A real hoot is the fact some of the bars are right across from the Wild Orchid. What a contrast, a new hotel trying to give off an appearance of elegance, and the good old Santo's Street girls acting up right across the street.
Some bars on Perimeter Road also offer in-house bj's, but the Santo's Street girls are masters of the art.You should be able to get service for 500, always negotiate and think in pesos.
FireWalker
10-10-06, 20:49
I noticed a lot of 1st timers going to AC, so I thought I'd submit some tips,
Here's my pattern of barhopping in AC. Start out your day out on Perimeter and work your way back to Fields at night. Hit Honey Ko's, Tee Times, Nasty Duck, Limited Edition, Gentleman's Club, Stampede, Nifties and a couple of new bars: Brass Knob and Dr. Something*(can't remember name). You'll find these bars more like neighborhood bars with small dance floors with girls. They have great happy hour prices and the lady drink prices are less. You'll find some great girls in these places, more GFE. Some great girls work in Perimeter because they can be noticed here, as apposed to Fields bars. Do your interview before you buy ladies drinks and you'll find some real gems. Barfines are 1000 in these bars. Try Country Kitchen (Cajun) or Zapata's Mexican for dinner. If the owners come by and asks how long you are staying say "a week or two" and you might get a drink out of the deal. Feel free to say hi to the owners in these bars, they are more customer service oriented. There are short time rooms next to Limited Edition, but I have never used them.
If you like playing pool check out Kokomo's upstairs. You can play pool with the girls up there and you can barfine one for 1000. I once barfined a cutie from there who had just left Nero's.
Start out your day out on Perimeter and work your way back to Fields at night. Exactly my agenda as well.
Hit Honey Ko's, Tee Times, Nasty Duck, Limited Edition, Gentleman's Club, Stampede, Nifties and a couple of new bars: Brass Knob and Dr. Something*(can't remember name).
Dr. Holmes, but I don't like it too much. Of the new bars I prefer Brass Knob.
You'll find some great girls in these places, more GFE. Some great girls work in Perimeter because they can be noticed here, as apposed to Fields bars. Do your interview before you buy ladies drinks and you'll find some real gems.
Can't agree more. Often I even don't make it down to Fields.
Another one for 1st timer about SMB and SMB-Light. Often Light is interpreted as reduced percentage of alcohol. Here it's not the case, both have 5%, Light is simply less calories and thats it. And since you'll never see the bottle itself, be aware of it. Otherwise the "light" might bounce back, hehe.
Cheers!
I am planning a trip for January, I am going to be in BKK for a month before and I am going to take airasia, they say that they fly to clark afb. I wanted to make sure that this is true and than I know that I dont have to look around for a taxi or shuttle to AC from Manilla. I have read a lot of the posts and I thank everyone for their info because it is very helpfull.
Dr. Holmes, but I don't like it too much.
Actually it's Dr. Holm's. It was not that bad last night when I checked it. Small line up with only 3-4 dancers each group on a small stage, but at least all were dancing and smiling most of the time. No Jolibees on stage, which I appreciate. I don't go to a bar to watch fat women. Period. Friendly staff and SML @ 50 peso's a pop. WIR=yes.
I know that a lot of guys will take the girl out for a long time however I just can not sleep with a girl in my room. Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks
Streetlooker
10-11-06, 18:06
Just arrange with the girl in the bar that you only want ST and I am sure she will be most happy to accomadate you. See if you can get a discount also you might or might not depends. Frankly If Iwas you I would just go ST in the Bar itself (Most have back rooms)and get your shot in and be done with it. ST is usually 500 pasos with a full barfine at 1000-1200.
I know that a lot of guys will take the girl out for a long time however I just can not sleep with a girl in my room. Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks
Most of the girls will be happy to leave after one shot, in fact some will even try without being asked. While most of the tourist bars on Fields offer only LT ie you'll have to pay the full fare 1200 even if you only require ST, many Perimeter bars do offer ST at a reduced rate. Even at LT Perimeter offer better bang for the buck. Enjoy AC!
The Corn Hole
10-11-06, 21:35
I know that a lot of guys will take the girl out for a long time however I just can not sleep with a girl in my room. Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks
I find it difficult to sleep with them as well. The only reason I do LT is so I can wake up to some pussy in the morning. A BBBJ would be nice first thing when you wake up but the bulk of the bargirls are pretty worthless in that regard.
But I must admit I haven't found to many who want to leave right away after only one shot. Usually they try to settle in for the night and it's kind of hard to get them to leave.
Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks
Let's suppose an expense of 1.200 pesos for one barfine. Then you would pay:
= 1.200 pesos for one shot (if going for one round only), but
= 600 pesos per shot (two rounds), or
= 400 pesos per shot (three rounds).
After this exercise you will have most likely a fair chance to sleep soundly! Well, and the Viagra sellers on the streets might enable you to go even for round four. It's just a matter of pure economics, isn't it?! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
Pretty amazing really when you consider 500 pesos is 10 bucks! Pretty hard not to get your moneys worth.
Let's suppose an expense of 1.200 pesos for one barfine. Then you would pay:
= 1.200 pesos for one shot (if going for one round only), but
= 600 pesos per shot (two rounds), or
= 400 pesos per shot (three rounds).
After this exercise you will have most likely a fair chance to sleep soundly! Well, and the Viagra sellers on the streets might enable you to go even for round four. It's just a matter of pure economics, isn't it?! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
Towelboy2010
10-12-06, 03:03
I will be in Angeles for 2 days in December.
Arrive Wed afternoon the 6th and have to be back in Manila for a 6:30am flight on Friday to the States.
I reserved a Suite I at the Clarkton. I am wondering if I should be closer to town with the limited time I am there? What's it like getting back and forth to Fields Ave?
I like to stay at a decent place and I also like it quiet so I can sleep (probably during the day due to jet lag)
The other hotels I would consider are:
Wild Orchid
Orchid Inn
Royal Amsterdam
Blue Nile Executive Hotel
Thanks for the help.
Bob
Towel boy,
I like the Clarkton, but I have a motorcycle. It is a long haul back and forth from the action. You can rent a bike for 350 p to 600 p a day (scooter vs dirt bike).
Of your back ups, Wild Orchid will probably be the quietest, but also the priciest. Orchid is a good alt. but books up. Good luck.
FD
Did anyone else in AC hear the explosion Thursday morning ? Rumors are flying in town about what it was. Haven't found crap about it in the media.
FD
I should've "Googled" before posting.
Turns out to be no big deal. But if curious:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/pam/2006/10/13/news/9.hurt.in.firecracker.blast.html
Hello
I'll be in Pattaya in two days and will be buying tickets to AC (Manila) from Thailand. Will this be easy to do? Or should I buy them now in the US? BTW, I'll have 5 days in Pattya so the tickets will be for about 5 days I purchased them. Will I run into any problems?
Egg
Key Master
10-13-06, 05:28
By all means don't buy them in the US! I buy my tickets in Thailand just like you are planning. There usually aren't issues with seats being hard to get or lead times. You'll pay alot more in the US.
This happened while I was in AC. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned about this yet. Met a couple people there that were robbed in this incident. The thieves were generous enough to at least let them keep their passports. Do not know if this is a common risk associated with Perimeter road hotels, but made me think twice about staying far from Fields.
http://www.kriyayoga.com/philippines/business/robbery_hold-up.php
Key Master
10-14-06, 01:34
By the way, it is easy to buy your tickets over there. There are lots of travel agents. You probably want to pay in Baht and not credit card though as they'll charge you extra for the percentage they loose from the credit card company. Competition is usually fierce so the markup or profit is relatively low. I think you should expect to pay anywhere from $250-450 for a roundtrip ticket to Manila. Expect to pay around $50 each way to the airport though.
Towelboy2010
10-14-06, 05:21
I am waiting for the Day 3 report with great anticipation. I hope all the activity there didn't disable him.
Thanks,
Bob
This happened while I was in AC. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned about this yet. Met a couple people there that were robbed in this incident. The thieves were generous enough to at least let them keep their passports. Do not know if this is a common risk associated with Perimeter road hotels, but made me think twice about staying far from Fields.
http://www.kriyayoga.com/philippines/business/robbery_hold-up.php
For the occasional visitor with safety concerns it may be wise to avoid Perimeter altogether and both stay & barhop in Fields only. ( Hey, it's still only 24-60 bucks a BF right? )
Personally, I choose to risk my life in Perimeter. In fact, I'm on my way there right now. This may be my last post... :o
I wasn't able to open the ling from someone named Wh.. bum...
Something about America Hotel? HEY, if you post a link, at least give a little info about what is in the link...
I've stayed at America Hotel twice and it has nice pool, noisy street front rooms, stategically located mirros, Chinese run shitty service, and did I mention they have a nice pool?
X
Travel Spirit
10-14-06, 18:18
I visited Angeles with my buddy last August. In the bar Viper he met a lovely girl and then took her at Banaue.
To cut a long story short, a romance grew up between them. She was the first to speak about marriage, that he accepted with pleasure. He gave her his e-mail and home address so as to start a distance communication that would lead, after the settlement of abeyances, to her coming to our country.
But two months have gone by and he hasn't heard from her. It was a stupid thing for him not to ask for her e-mail and now he is in desperation. He wonders what really happened. Has the girl lost the information or changed her mind? He cannot travel to Philippines now so what can he do to unravel the mystery?
After a quick search in internet I didn't find the site of VIPER bar or the contact e-mail.
Do you have any good idea?
Thanks
Thought I'd try posting a trip report since I've enjoyed reading some of the others. This is from a recent visit to Angeles. Here's a summary of Day #1.
Day 1: I got to Angeles (after spending a few days in Manila) at about 2:00 in the afternoon. Checked into hotel (Central Park) & relaxed for a while. I had been to Angeles once before, but only for 2 days. Went out to eat just down the block at Sub Delicious which was pretty empty at the time, but food was ok. Walked around Fields Avenue a bit just to get a look at the layout of the area & picked up a few drinks and snacks at 7-11. After going back to hotel briefly and taking a nap (still recovering from an all nighter with a Makati bargirl the night before), I headed out for my first night of bar hopping at about 9:30. I was determined to check out several bars to see which places I liked best. My first stop was Champagne since I’d heard a lot about it on this and other forums. I have to admit that I wasn’t too impressed. There weren’t any girls there that I found all that attractive - most were chubby, maybe 5-6 range as far as looks. Maybe just caught the place on an off night, who knows. One girl sat down next to me and we talked for a bit. She was ok looking, but nothing special and was very eager to get barfined. I considered it cause she said she’d do anything I want, but I usually go for girls I find very attractive, 8-10 range and she was only about a 5-6. Bought her a couple drinks and had a couple myself, then left.
Next stop was Neros which had a bigger and better selection of girls. Sat at a stool in front of the stage to get a good look at the dancers. Saw several nice looking ones & I thought about barfining one in particular who was an 8, but wanted to look around more first so I headed next door to Blue Nile. This place has the largest selection of girls in any of the bars I went to and some really good looking ones. Tons of girls on the 3 level stage which goes up and down between the 2 floor levels. I was kinda hypnotized by this place so I stayed for quite a while just taking in the view - don’t know if I’ve ever been anywhere else with so many girls in skimpy outfits before. They also have a dance show which is pretty good and some of the dancers are really great looking. There were 2 that I would have barfined in a second, but I didn’t get a chance & I’m not even sure if these girls barfine or not. They seemed to stick to themselves and I never saw one leave with anyone. One of the regular (non-dance show) girls on stage caught my eye - somewhat light skin, very pretty face, & fantastic body, but someone else barfined before I had a chance (never found out her name). I went back a couple other nights hoping to barfine her, but didn’t see here there again & thought maybe she’s so popular she get’s barfines real quick every night or had a steady barfine. Chatted with a cute shooter waitress wearing one of those sheriff uniforms. She told me to pick anyone I want onstage so I had her call over Mariana, a girl from Samar with a great body (while dancing on stage, her perfect boobies kept popping out of her little bikini top). Talked to her for a while & when I asked her about barfining she said yes, but she was on her mens so no boomboom. I decided I might try her another night instead & moved on.
Next stop was a bar called Stinger, just off Fields. Much smaller than Blue Nile and the selection of girls wasn’t near as good so I thought I’d just finish my beer and go somewhere else, but a girl came over sat down next to me. She was part black (maybe American father), decent looking (about a 6 or 7) and taller than most Filipinas with nice long legs and a pretty nice body. She was also very friendly, touching my crotch and guiding my hand under her short skirt and panty to give me a preview of the goodies underneath. By this time, it was getting pretty late & she seemed like a hot & willing one so I decided to barfine her. Walked back to hotel and after we each took a shower began the night’s exercise. Turned out to be a good choice since this girl seemed to be open to pretty much anything - bj, all positions, even a little backdoor. We went a couple of rounds over night before I let her go early in the morning. End of Day #1.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Towelboy2010
10-15-06, 00:17
I did an extensive search of this forum for an answer to this question but found none.
Is there any problem with customs if you bring Viagra from the USA with you?
I did an extensive search of this forum for an answer to this question but found none.
Is there any problem with customs if you bring Viagra from the USA with you?
I don't see any reason why it would be a problem. We have been bring V to Hong Kong . China and Thailand. I don't see why Philippine would cause any problem but would love to hear back from the regulars here.
Is there any problem with customs if you bring Viagra from the USA with you?
Oh yes, sure, there will be a big problem when you carry 500 boxes V or C in a separate suitcase and are furthermore intelligent enough to mention that on your customs declaration form! :)
However, assuming that you are no V dealer I am wondering how anybody could be aware that you have 15 V in your toilet bag? Besides, it was never prohibited to bring essential pharmaceuticals for personal use to the Philippines. I do that for years! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
GoodTimes2
10-15-06, 20:04
I visited Angeles with my buddy last August. In the bar Viper he met a lovely girl and then took her at Banaue.
To cut a long story short, a romance grew up between them. She was the first to speak about marriage, that he accepted with pleasure. He gave her his e-mail and home address so as to start a distance communication that would lead, after the settlement of abeyances, to her coming to our country.
But two months have gone by and he hasn't heard from her. It was a stupid thing for him not to ask for her e-mail and now he is in desperation. He wonders what really happened. Has the girl lost the information or changed her mind? He cannot travel to Philippines now so what can he do to unravel the mystery?
After a quick search in internet I didn't find the site of VIPER bar or the contact e-mail.
Do you have any good idea?
ThanksThis is easy. Every person in Angeles knows each other. You must still have a phone number of a woman who works at the Viper or other bar. Simply message anyone you know there and tell them that you will western union them 50 dollars for information.
This is easy. Every person in Angeles knows each other. You must still have a phone number of a woman who works at the Viper or other bar. Simply message anyone you know there and tell them that you will western union them 50 dollars for information.
Mates,
I'll be in AC next week. If I can help somehow, pls let me know.
Maybe I can do something useful at daytime except the usual monkey business.
Someone to meet up and have a cold one?
Cheers!
I have been in AC for the last week and have noticed that bar fines have increased. They between 1250 and 1300 pesos. Last May when I was last here they were 1000 to 1200. Before I left the USA I search the forum and no one or no were was this stated.
So for anyone visiting beware that there has been another increase.
DD
I did an extensive search of this forum for an answer to this question but found none.
Is there any problem with customs if you bring Viagra from the USA with you?It is illegal to posses viagra in the US without a prescription.
If they find the Viagra, and you don't have a prescription, I am sure it spells trouble. Sometimes these customs agents have nothing better to do. Also depends what airport you are flying into. SFO or LAX, I wouldn't chance it.
Russ Limbaugh got arrested because he had a bottle of Viagra, but with a different name on the bottle. I think they eventually dropped the charges.
The cost of Viagra in the PI is about the same as buying online in the US, so why chance it? Of course if you are buying from the street vendors, bring all you want, because I doubt there is a spec of viagra in the stuff they sell!
I visited Angeles with my buddy last August. In the bar Viper he met a lovely girl and then took her at Banaue.
To cut a long story short, a romance grew up between them. She was the first to speak about marriage, that he accepted with pleasure. He gave her his e-mail and home address so as to start a distance communication that would lead, after the settlement of abeyances, to her coming to our country.
But two months have gone by and he hasn't heard from her. It was a stupid thing for him not to ask for her e-mail and now he is in desperation. He wonders what really happened. Has the girl lost the information or changed her mind? He cannot travel to Philippines now so what can he do to unravel the mystery?
After a quick search in internet I didn't find the site of VIPER bar or the contact e-mail.
Do you have any good idea?
ThanksHate to burst his bubble but girls do disappear from the bars on a routine basis depending on their whim or steady barfine. Obviously if she were really taken with him, as he is with her, she would email him. She must be of a different mind concerning this. I can tell you that if she has one of those "small problems" then he will hear from her and the discussion will be monetary. Been there, seen that many years ago and the routine hasn't changed.
Only Looking
10-17-06, 06:24
Mates,
I'll be in AC next week. If I can help somehow, pls let me know.
Maybe I can do something useful at daytime except the usual monkey business.
Someone to meet up and have a cold one?
Cheers!Your friend is lucky. Is he nuts talking about marrying a bar girl? Of course she brought it up. She is the one who would do anything to get out of that hell hole!
I went to this link, which is at some oriental religion web site. Can anyone confirm this?
BTW, I always love reading the news at Pattay Mail. What a trip!
Dan
This happened while I was in AC. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned about this yet. Met a couple people there that were robbed in this incident. The thieves were generous enough to at least let them keep their passports. Do not know if this is a common risk associated with Perimeter road hotels, but made me think twice about staying far from Fields.
http://www.kriyayoga.com/philippines/business/robbery_hold-up.php
Travel Spirit
10-17-06, 21:16
Please accept my friend's thanks for your response.
It is about a young girl who have to bring up a child.
When they were together she showed enthusiasm for this and she never spoke about money.
Ekspat, I'll send you a PM with all the information so as to puzzle things out.
I thank you in advance.
Travel Spirit.
here is the article at the web site:
hotel security and tourist security in the philippines - robbery hold up angeles city, papanga, philippines in a reputable tourist hotel
angeles city - september 18th, 2006 around 0230 am
on september 18th, 2006 around 0230 am - just a day before my previous departure from angeles to boracay - a group of about 8 male individuals wearing police jackets and caps armed with m-16 (baby armalite) made a holdup in a reputable hotel in angeles city.
some 15 persons - mostly hotel guests - have been locked into a room by the robbers and depleted of their property such as cellphones, money, computer laptop, jewelry. credit card, hotel cash box, etc.
which hotel is unimportant - its the one i usually and currently stay with excellent internet connection and i will of course continue to stay here. such hold up could happen any other hotel, any other city, any other island - even boracay island where i have been told days ago that hold ups have occurred this summer time as well.
the robbers fled by a black car looking like a pajero with the numbers 519 - letters unrecognized. it appears that the same group has made another hold up just in very recent days in manila.
security in the philippines is different from security in europe and life here certainly is nothing for bored european city people. hold ups or even kidnaping are tradition here in the philippines. mentality is hot and emotional at times - millions are poor and many are suppressed by richer ones. politics is only for the richest ones. rich get richer - poor get poorer.
the risk to get killed in europe by chemical toxins, by a speeding car, cancer or severe illness or accidents most likely is far greater than to experience a hold up here in a tropical paradise.
i went to this link, which is at some oriental religion web site. can anyone confirm this?
btw, i always love reading the news at pattay mail. what a trip!
dan
Darth Sushi
10-17-06, 22:17
I'm hoping someone will confirm which hotel was targeted because I wondering if road access played a part on the target. Last time I was there, the road to fields was rough and can be easily blocked. The closer you get to MacArthur, and the easier to get away from AC via express way to Manila or keep going past Mabalacat.
Here is the article at the web site:
Hotel security and tourist security in the Philippines - Robbery hold up Angeles City, Papanga, Philippines in a reputable tourist hotel. ... The risk to get killed in Europe by chemical toxins ... is far greater than to experience a hold up here in a tropical paradise.
Right, and how boring would life be without a certain amount of risk!? By the way, what could be the worst case scenario? Well, in theory you die a happy man!
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! :)
Hesekiels
Steve,
I enjoyed your report from 10/14. If you get time please post one more for us about the rest of your trip. I'm scheduled to visit AC in a couple of weeks. I'm also staying at Central Park, please include some info. about the hotel service, amenities, or anything you can share about your stay there.
Thanks
Bobaero is a moron who has no idea what he is talking about. Check out the customs and border protection website and you'll see; you merely need to declare it on your form.
Do not buy from the criminals on the streets of Ermita. Buy it at any drug store (no prescription required). THE place to get it is Cambodia where it costs 50 cents for 50mgs. Every trip I bring back 50.
On another note, Fields Ave is closed to traffic for a third consecutive day due to bomb threats. BUYERS MARKET!
SUN STAR
Monday, October 16, 2006
Bomb threats prompt sealing of tourism zone
By Dante M. Fabian
THE Angeles City police, augmented by troops from the Regional Mobile Group (RMG), continue to enforce a ban on the entry of vehicles along the Fields Avenue Tourism Center here for the third night.
The sealing off of the tourism district here has raised speculations from some quarters of bomb threats from terrorist groups, spawning fear among tourists, which has prevented them from staying out.
Motorists driving through the area near the main gate of the Clark Special Economic Zone (CSEZ) have also complained of heavy traffic congestions as the PNP closed alternate routes usually taken to avoid traffic jams.
Both bar operators and employees have reported a steep dip in their sales and incomes, saying that only few customers have entered their bars since the police closed the street to vehicles.
Waitresses said that for the first two nights of the ban, they earned only a fifth of the tips they usually received before the police reaction to the "bomb threats."
Bar managers said business that has been slow even before the sealing off of the street, dropped their sales by at least 70 percent.
"It is like the whole district has been hit by a bomb since business is almost dead now," said a bar operator.
He said that employees, mamasans, waitresses, bartenders and dancers are the ones who have suffered much from the security measures taken by the PNP.
The resulting financial slowdown has also affected boutiques, Internet cafes, food shops and other businesses patronized mostly by bar girls.
Senior Superintendent Policarpio Segubre, chief of the Angeles police, said that the security measures in the tourism district were taken upon directives emanating from higher ups in the PNP hierarchy.
Segubre said the reason for the sealing off of Fields Avenue was not specified by the PNP, adding that the orders were to barricade the roads leading to the main tourism center. He also declined to confirm fears expressed by most tourists and stakeholders in the tourism industry here that the move was related to bomb threats from terrorist groups or was an offshoot of the terror bombings that recently rocked some parts of Mindanao.
Jun Realino, president of the Balibago Tricycle Operators and Drivers Association (Btoda), said the closure has deprived members of their group the opportunity to earn their living to support their families.
Elmer Garcia, president of the association of traders located at the stalls owned by the Clark Development Corporation (CDC), said many of the members have aired their complaints against the sudden moves of the police.
Garcia said his members have been earning very minimal incomes and the closure of Fields Avenue has made life even more difficult to them since their patrons have been scared off by the closure of the street, making them believe this was taken due to a threat of terrorist bombing attack.
Lawn Gnome
10-18-06, 07:49
AC do not have a beach, or? What can tourists do at daytime?
How far is it from AC to Manila?
Can somebody recommend a good Hotel there for about 30 $ a day with Safty Box in the Room?First I want to make a pitch for the motorcycle rental/Internet place across from Skytrax. The guy that runs it is the nicest, most fair guy I met in the PI. Please give him the business. Small motorcycles can be rented for 350 pesos/day.
Also, there is no reason to pay 2500 pesos for a ride from Manila to AC. When you get off at the airport, bypass the line of cabs and get one that is not connected with the airport. Make sure they use the meter, and go to the Swagman Hotel at 411 A. Flores Street in Ermita and, for 500 pesos, purchase a "Fly the Bus" ticket to AC. They'll drop you off at the hotel of your choice. While you're waiting, take a cab to LA Cafe and check it out.
In AC, I highly recommend the Sunset Garden Inn. It's about a km away from the main Fields action, but very close to the perimeter bars. Its a secluded sanctuary that includes a nice pool, restaurant, spacious, clean rooms, 110 and 220 electricity, and great service including laundry. Rates around 1200 pesos per night, and they have weekly rates.
When you find a girl, take her on a trike (or your motorcycle) back to the Sunset Garden, rent a swimsuit for her, and go for a nice romantic swim, get her some food and drinks at the restaurant, possibly meeting some of the other guests and their dates and, when she leaves in the morning, the staff will call you and make sure you know.
On another note, Fields Ave is closed to traffic for a third consecutive day due to bomb threats. BUYERS MARKET!
Wonder why....
Muslim groups, which don't like the sinful street during Ramadhan?
Or the bars didn't pay enough tip for the MIB?
If it's really dead then I'll stay one night and go Manila next week.
If it's really dead then I'll stay one night and go Manila next week.
Well, all bars are open for business as usual. Only exception I can think of off hand is Limited Edition which is closed for renovation. In fact my general observation is that the talent pool has been somewhat refreshed and the jolibee rate is down. But then again, I may just have been lucky lately..
Bold Focker
10-18-06, 19:36
You can get to Clark Manila from BKK but you have to go Via kular Lumpur.
I did it in August. The Airport is about 3-4 miles from AC Taxi 350Peso.
You have to spend the night in KL or the other option is a 4 hour wait at Kl airport. If i remember correctely.
I am planning a trip for January, I am going to be in BKK for a month before and I am going to take airasia, they say that they fly to clark afb. I wanted to make sure that this is true and than I know that I dont have to look around for a taxi or shuttle to AC from Manilla. I have read a lot of the posts and I thank everyone for their info because it is very helpfull.
Bold Focker
10-18-06, 20:43
You can get to Clark Manila from BKK but you have to go Via kular Lumpur.
I did it in August. The Airport is about 3-4 miles from AC Taxi 350Peso.
You have to spend the night in KL or the other option is a 4 hour wait at Kl airport. If i remember correctely.
I am planning a trip for January, I am going to be in BKK for a month before and I am going to take airasia, they say that they fly to clark afb. I wanted to make sure that this is true and than I know that I dont have to look around for a taxi or shuttle to AC from Manilla. I have read a lot of the posts and I thank everyone for their info because it is very helpfull.
Steve,
I enjoyed your report from 10/14. If you get time please post one more for us about the rest of your trip. I'm scheduled to visit AC in a couple of weeks. I'm also staying at Central Park, please include some info. about the hotel service, amenities, or anything you can share about your stay there.
ThanksGlad you enjoyed the trip report. I'll post another as soon as I get a chance. I think Central Park is a great hotel choice if you want a decent place to stay at a very reasonable price. The rooms are nice (although not overly fancy), comfortable bed, fridge in room, & Internet access in room. The service is very good also - staff is friendly & helpful, pretty good room service, maids service is excellent. The location is very convenient - right off Fields Ave. so all of the bars are within short walking distance. The only real downside is their pool is tiny so if a hotel with a swimming pool is important to you, it might not be the best choice. The price was under $30 a night U.S. when I was there. I think they also have a discount for long-term stay. I don't think there are many (if any) hotels of similar quality at that price in Angeles at least that close to the Fields area. Hope you enjoy your trip.
Can someone tell me whether Central Park hotel have an in room safe?
Central Park has room safe in every room. I've stayed here many times too. The owner is a good friend, tell him I said hello.
RaZZoR
Can someone tell me whether Central Park hotel have an in room safe?
The Airport is about 3-4 miles from AC Taxi 350Peso.
You were ripped off. This is the 3rd world, please negotiate a little and you will make us all look a little less stupid. Thanks!
FYI a Jeepney special service (solo ride) is 150P!
You may want to take a look at my previous post before staying at the Central Park.
Can someone tell me whether Central Park hotel have an in room safe?
Ok guys, I will keep the pictures coming if you tell me how well I did... Rate the chicks. If I hear some positive feedback, I will post a lot more.
First, tell me if you still believe the Angeles City women are worse looking then the ones in Manila. Let me know guys how well I did.I think the are very beautifull, even yr first fotos are a bit dark.
But there some more.
BRGDS
Carlos 3
You can get to Clark Manila from BKK but you have to go Via kular Lumpur.
I did it in August. The Airport is about 3-4 miles from AC Taxi 350Peso.
You have to spend the night in KL or the other option is a 4 hour wait at Kl airport. If i remember correctely.You can go from BKK to Macau by Air Asia and then from Macau to Clark by Tiger. The Tiger flight leaves Macau at 2 pm while Airasia arrives 1:50, so going to Clark you need to stay overnight in macau. On the way back you can go through on the same day. (Arrival in Macau 6 pm, Macau BKK 8.45 pm).
Hello Gentlemen
I am scheduled to arrive in AC in 3 days. I just read the forum and found out about the bomb threats. I googled it but found nothing. For those of you guys already there, do you feel safe? What do you see? Should I cancel my trip?
Egg
Thanks Lawn Gnome,
for those good tips. I think I will stay first a few days in Makati before I go to Angeles. Therefore I will try to get a Bus from there to Angeles.
The sunshine garden sounds nice, I will give it a try.
@Eggsalad,
don't worry guy, we shouldn't spoil our lives because of bomb threats. I guess the chance to die at a accident is higher.
Soon Be Dead
10-20-06, 10:18
It's been a tough year in Pattaya, so I'm treating myself to a weeks cacation in Angeles City.
In addition to the usual entertainment I'd like to brush up on my pistol shooting (The range at Tiffany's is worse than useless).
Does anyone know where I can shoot in Angeles?
Thanks and here's some pics of what I'm vacationing from!
Why will you soon be dead?
It's been a tough year in Pattaya, so I'm treating myself to a weeks cacation in Angeles City.
In addition to the usual entertainment I'd like to brush up on my pistol shooting (The range at Tiffany's is worse than useless).
Does anyone know where I can shoot in Angeles?
Thanks and here's some pics of what I'm vacationing from!
A while back, tried this club on the recommendation by a former dancer. Nice two tiered yet cosy place on Fields Ave. The night I was there, we were hampered by several blackouts during the evening. While waiting for the generator to kick in, gave me a chance to goose the women that were seated next to me during total darkness.
My first selection was a gal from Manila (a great dancer) who turned out to be a cherry girl. Somebody mentioned that I could barfine her for only 50,000 pesos. Wouldn't you know it my second pick was a cherry girl also. I suppose I could have had a cherry popin' party but I'm not into that. It wasn't long before we were all out on the stage dancing up a storm since they were playing some great music (classic rock).
Even the manager (Rogie from Guam) and one of the mamsans (Elaine) got into the act. If you like the bar, it is a good idea to be friendly with the management. Bought them both a drink and before long it seemed like one big party. For every ladies drink I purchased, my drink would be free. Had loads of fun but never did barfine anyone. Too many bars, not enough time.
Bomb Threats
I been living in Angeles City for 1 year now, I never seen it so quiet. The bars are empty, the girls are scared, and the owners are pissed. This bomb threat must be serious, Feild ave is closed to traffic. To be honest I like it closed reminds me of walking street in Thailand. I don't know how long this threat will last. I would'nt cancel my trip, but do be careful you never know.
If there are any updates in the next few days I will post.
RockyMtnWay
10-23-06, 05:10
Originally Posted by Bacwy1
I am planning a trip for January, I am going to be in BKK for a month before and I am going to take airasia, they say that they fly to clark afb. I wanted to make sure that this is true and than I know that I dont have to look around for a taxi or shuttle to AC from Manilla. I have read a lot of the posts and I thank everyone for their info because it is very helpfull.
You can get to Clark via Singapore on TigerAirways(.com). You can get to Singapore cheap from BKK on Tiger, AirAsia or JetStar. You have to overnight in Singapore going to AC from BKK. I usually spend the night at a cheap hotel in the Geyland red light district. You can fly back CRK-SIN-BKK the same day.
RMW
I am Angeles City right now. Most of the go go bars are empty. There does not seem to be too many tourists as well. According to my friend, she told me to stay away from the mall . It seems there was some intelligence report suggesting that there will be bomb threat in any mall because of large number of people it will kill. She said the clubs are safe. Field,s avenue is closed part way. I like it in the sense that there is no traffic noise and congestion. I am staying at Royal Amstertdam Hotel.
Key Master
10-23-06, 17:08
I just wanted to add my two cents on the issue of flying into Clark. I myself love the ideal of flying into Clark when my main objective is to go to Angeles. The taxi ride from the airport is extremely short. Tiger Airways is a nice option price wise it appears when you can book way in advance. The problem I have with Tiger is two things. One as mentioned by another member is that you will have to stay at least one night in Singapore going there from Bangkok and possibly going back to Bangkok. Some people might say that that is no big thing. I am not a fan of Singapore's nightlife. I think it's too expensive for what it offers, and I did not find much to my liking there. The other problem is, that even though you save money on the flights, you pay for it in two ways if you have no real interest in going to Singapore. One you have to pay for a hotel and even if it's their cheapest at say US $40 or so, add the cost of taxi back and forth and you have about the cost of a private pickup from a hotel or pickup service from Manila airport to Angeles. You need to look at the whole cost and not the quoted price from places like Tiger as the taxes are alot more than you think. You have to come up with the total to compare flying into Manila. The other problem I have with it is that I'd have to stay one or two extra nights in Singapore where I could have spent it in a place I more prefer for a minimal extra costs. That in of itself is more worth it to enjoy the few days off I have somewhere I'd rather be than having to layover for the sake of saying I saved money on the air ticket. I have done the math for myself and it doesn't work for me unless I have some reason to be in Singapore. This may not matter to some but I think in the end it's better to fly into Manila unless you don't have to layover in a city you don't want to be in. Until Tiger makes it so you can connect to more of it's connecting flights I'm not sure it's worth the time and savings. It also might be an agreement with them and Singapore to pour more tourists into Singapore by making flights appear cheap if you don't include the costs of the layover. Just my two cents.
RockyMtnWay
10-24-06, 09:15
I just wanted to add my two cents on the issue of flying into Clark. I myself love the ideal of flying into Clark when my main objective is to go to Angeles. The taxi ride from the airport is extremely short. Tiger Airways is a nice option price wise it appears when you can book way in advance. The problem I have with Tiger is two things. One as mentioned by another member is that you will have to stay at least one night in Singapore going there from Bangkok and possibly going back to Bangkok. Some people might say that that is no big thing. I am not a fan of Singapore's nightlife. I think it's too expensive for what it offers, and I did not find much to my liking there. The other problem is, that even though you save money on the flights, you pay for it in two ways if you have no real interest in going to Singapore. One you have to pay for a hotel and even if it's their cheapest at say US $40 or so, add the cost of taxi back and forth and you have about the cost of a private pickup from a hotel or pickup service from Manila airport to Angeles. You need to look at the whole cost and not the quoted price from places like Tiger as the taxes are alot more than you think. You have to come up with the total to compare flying into Manila. The other problem I have with it is that I'd have to stay one or two extra nights in Singapore where I could have spent it in a place I more prefer for a minimal extra costs. That in of itself is more worth it to enjoy the few days off I have somewhere I'd rather be than having to layover for the sake of saying I saved money on the air ticket. I have done the math for myself and it doesn't work for me unless I have some reason to be in Singapore. This may not matter to some but I think in the end it's better to fly into Manila unless you don't have to layover in a city you don't want to be in. Until Tiger makes it so you can connect to more of it's connecting flights I'm not sure it's worth the time and savings. It also might be an agreement with them and Singapore to pour more tourists into Singapore by making flights appear cheap if you don't include the costs of the layover. Just my two cents.
I wouldn't disagree with Key Master's point of view. In many ways it is easier to do it his way. I think a lot has to do with how one views Singapore and maybe saving a few $$$.
From my point of view I save some money, spend a fun night in Singapore and time is not an issue for me. I just looked on Kayak.com and the cheapest fare I could find direct from BKK to MNL for a round trip on the dates I want to fly was $499 US (flying near the holidays). Perhaps there are cheaper alternatives?? I booked AirAsia BKK-SIN, Tiger SIN-CRK, Tiger CRK-SIN and Tiger SIN-BKK for around $250 US. If I had booked a week earlier it would have been about $50 less. The SIN-CRK route seems to be popular and you need to book fairly early for the best fare. The early Tiger flight from CRK-SIN (11:35) arrives in SIN at 15:10. Tiger has a 18:15 flight from SIN-BKK so you don't need to overnight on the return trip. But as low cost carriers have no connecting flights you have to clear immigration, collect your baggage, clear customs and then go check in for your BKK flight. So there is some inconvenience.
As far as Singapore I book a cheap room at a place like Hotel 81 Hollywood in Geylang (~$31 US). Cab fare to and from the airport is about $25 US or less total. You can use the MRT and save money if you know what you are doing. So this next trip I'm in for about $300 for a round trip from BKK-AC with a night in SIN.
I do enjoy a night in Singapore. There is lots of SW activity in Geylang although it will cost a bit more than Thailand. There is a chance to try girls of different nationalities if that is your thing. This will only be my third stopover in SIN so I may venture to Orchard Towers for the first time. But prices are very high there and I likely will just hit a few bars and look around. But Geylang, IMO is fun. Even if all you do is walk around and check out the street action from around Lorong 6 to about Lorong 20.
RMW
Zoltan3939
10-25-06, 04:15
Hello Gentlemen
Having been to Pattaya and Bangkok 4 times, I think I'm ready to try AC. So I need a little help from the AC fans. I have read a lot on this board and think I know most of the pros and cons of AC. But I hope some of you can clear some things up for me.
1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True or false?
2. AC girls have more curves than Thai girls. True or false?
3. AC girls are more willing to try anal. True or false?
4. AC girls are more willing to participate in 3-somes. True or false?
5. You can buy a ticket in Bangkok and travel to Philippines easily and get a visa on arrival (I'm American). True or false?
5. Most important question...just exactly how safe is AC? The States deparment has a travel warning for the Philippines. I know it is probably safe but I just want to make sure. I always feel safe in BKK or Pattaya but I'm always alert. And I don't drink.
Thank you guys in advance for your info.
EggI've got a visa for double entry into thailand when I go to AC is that what you mean? I was in Cebu before for 3 weeks and all you need is a passport at that time. Ive never been to AC but am trying to expand my horizons also... im a Pattaya Man ussually.
The other option you have is fly Air Asia to Macau. And then catch a short flight to Ac-Manila by tiger Airways. Even in this case you have to stay one night in Macau. Macau is an interesting place for anybody. The thing with tiger Airways is to get the cheapest flight you have to book atleast a month in advance . I am in Manila right now and I got US $60 round trip from Macau To AC.
As for Air Asia best way to get cheap tickets is when they have a promotion.
Last year I got two round trip tickets from BKK to Phnom Penh for $60.
By flying BKK-Macau- AC you are flying the shortest route rather than roundabout.
Key Master
10-25-06, 06:33
I've got a visa for double entry into thailand when I go to AC is that what you mean? I was in Cebu before for 3 weeks and all you need is a passport at that time. Ive never been to AC but am trying to expand my horizons also... im a Pattaya Man ussually.
If you are asking about Visa on Arrival, it means coming in to a country without prior notice and application of a visa prior to arrival and getting approval there as you arrived to enter the country. Some countries require visas to enter their countries prior to arrival. Some countries may require it for certain citizens of certain countries at the same time not require it for other citizens of other countries. For Thailand and the Phillipines, they don't require a US citizen for example to have a visa before they arrive. They allow them to stay for a certain amount of time. If staying longer than the limits allowed then you might need to get a specific type of visa approved. But basically, the example for US citizens just coming to Thailand and Phillipines without a visa beforehand, is a Visa or Arrival as they are allowed in normally without cause for alarm.
Slothropsezok
10-30-06, 02:09
What, exactly, is happening in the AC? A bomb threat? The bars were empty, according to an earlier post. The girls are scared. There hasn't been an outraged posting from *****monger central in a while. I know there are some stalwart correspondents out there, tougher than even Wolf Blitzer to report here. Let's hear it!
Lawn Gnome
10-30-06, 06:45
It's the "Sunset Garden." For airline reading, be sure to pick up Jens Peters' Philippines Travel Guide. (ISBN: 3923821328 ). You may be able to get Jens to autograph your copy as the Sunset Garden is one of his favorite hangouts.
In Makati, you can pay hundreds of dollars and stay at some very fancy hotels, or you can live cheap with the bedbugs. I propose that you stay at Cherry Blossoms. You'll get a bargain, but a very nice place.
When you hook up with ladies with whom you'd like to spend a few days, go to Sabang beach in Puerta Galerta. It's a 4+ hour trip to Batangas pier, but the bus fare is cheap, and you'll get to see a little of the country. When you get to Batangas, it's another 90 minute boat ride, but it's interesting. Sabang is infinitely cleaner, has a few gogo bars, and you can rent a boat with a guide to take you out the the best snorkeling beaches. Cost:800p for the boat and skipper, and a few bucks for the equipment. No extra charge for passengers.
Thanks Lawn Gnome,
for those good tips. I think I will stay first a few days in Makati before I go to Angeles. Therefore I will try to get a Bus from there to Angeles.
The sunshine garden sounds nice, I will give it a try.
@Eggsalad,
don't worry guy, we shouldn't spoil our lives because of bomb threats. I guess the chance to die at a accident is higher.
What, exactly, is happening in the AC? A bomb threat? The bars were empty, according to an earlier post. The girls are scared. There hasn't been an outraged posting from *****monger central in a while. I know there are some stalwart correspondents out there, tougher than even Wolf Blitzer to report here. Let's hear it!There is no problem in Angeles. Just got back from 2 weeks there. Girls afraid, I don't think so as none seem bothered. Bars empty. Depends on which bar you are talking about and at what time. BNE, Blue Nile, Neros all busy. Lollipop busy. Perimeter bars busy in the late afternoon.
Tired of Thai Immigration VISA crazyness, I am thinking to move out from Pattaya to Philippines. I thought to visit Angeles City and found at the following link http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html the Niagara Lodge located in Santos Street very low priced (600pesos) but labeled as "basic accomodation". Has anyone here experienced this lodge ? Do they have at least AC and a TV?
FireWalker
11-02-06, 22:33
Tired of Thai Immigration VISA crazyness, I am thinking to move out from Pattaya to Philippines. I thought to visit Angeles City and found at the following link http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html the Niagara Lodge located in Santos Street very low priced (600pesos) but labeled as "basic accomodation". Has anyone here experienced this lodge ? Do they have at least AC and a TV?Haven't seen it, but I doubt if it has cable and AC. Try DM Residente Hotel at 950 pesos for standard room. It is very good deal and location. I think they do a better deal for a month stay.
Haven't seen it, but I doubt if it has cable and AC. Try DM Residente Hotel at 950 pesos for standard room. It is very good deal and location. I think they do a better deal for a month stay.Thank you for the advice. I have located Federico Street on this map
http://www.acmap.com/fields_complete.asp (it is in the southwest corner) but unfortunately the map scale is not stated so may I ask you how far is from Santos Street?
Here in Pattaya I usually take minibuses(songtaw) for just 10 baht, have heard in Philippines jeepneys charge even less (8 pesos), are there around Balibago otr you must walk or use trikes/mototaxies?
Being back after one week in AC it seems to me that business is a bit less than October 2005. However, fine with me because more selection, hehe.
The bomb rumours, okay, yes, Fields is closed for cars and there are some controls near Fields. But come on guys, thats a joke. Cars are checked, but I saw several moto's driving in there without any stop at all. A motodriver with a nice backpack full with LX14 and complete Fields Avenue is history.
There are so many ways into Fields and with that sort of check, simply forget about it.
My conclusion: Since it hasn't happened so far, it won't happen. Enjoy!
I'll be back soon!
Cheers!
Tired of Thai Immigration VISA crazyness, I am thinking to move out from Pattaya to Philippines. I thought to visit Angeles City and found at the following link http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html the Niagara Lodge located in Santos Street very low priced (600pesos) but labeled as "basic accomodation". Has anyone here experienced this lodge ? Do they have at least AC and a TV?Niagara Lodge has good split AC, cable TV, and free wireless internet throughout. Rooms are 900P now. Long term discounts are available as well as short time rates. Free laundry is a bonus. It's very close to Fields Ave , so no trikes needed. It has a great location, but is old and dingy throughout.
Haven't seen it, but I doubt if it has cable and AC. Try DM Residente Hotel at 950 pesos for standard room. It is very good deal and location. I think they do a better deal for a month stay.
DM is a filipino-run nickel-and-dime-you operation. Nice hotel, sure. But they will charge you extra for anything they can come up with. Need to crap? Well, that's 10 pesos for an extra roll of TP. DM also serves as lodging for "normal" guests ie filipinos attending the Systems+ computer college, so you may have some audience checking out your EWRs LOL.
If you want a real good deal, check out Patio Inn in Diamond Subd. They are doing a Cheap Charlie special 2 nites for 1000 Peso's for a room with AC/cable. Hard to beat. Patio also has various rooms/apts for long term stays if you decide to stay on in AC.
Bold Focker
11-03-06, 19:31
One club I always found to be worth a visit was the Blue Nile, there is always a good selection of girls, and they don’t pester you all the time for drinks.
Beers at the club are 85 pesos and a lady’s drink I think was 120 or 150. (@time of writing 95 peso = £1)
The girl below was from the Blue Nile; she was wearing the police officer uniform at the time. (Should have asked to bring it along)
The way I understand it is, the girls belong to the Mamasan, so if for any reason the Mamasan leaves the club, all the girls go with her.
I was told by a bar manager that the Mamasan will go off to the islands of the Philippines (remember 7000 islands) looking for girls, and then bringing them back to the clubs to work.
For newbie’s I will try to explain how it works in AC. In this instance I bar fined this girl for 1200 Pesos. From this BF the girl get 500 Peso. (that is about £5.20 or us$9.75) The Mamasan will also get her cut, the rest goes to the club. Not sure percentages!
Every time you buy a ladies drink, the girls and the Mamasan gets a cut. All the club gets out of it is drink sales.
It is generally recognised that in the morning, you pay the girl a tip, depending on her performance! So what should the tip be? I give 1000p, which talking to other mongers, I think is the norm, any thing less than that and you might get branded a “Cheap Charlie” The bar manager told me that some only give 200p, probable why the girls like the Japanese. They call them 3x3x3! I had to ask!
They have 3-inch dicks, take 3 minutes and pay 3000p.
In general I found all the girls to have a good attitude, and generally enjoyed them selves. It could be because there does not appear to be a stigma to the trade, as there is in the west.
I give 1000p, which talking to other mongers, I think is the norm, any thing less than that and you might get branded a “Cheap Charlie”
1000 pesos, wow, that's indeed very generous of you! However, I could well imagine that some mates will excoriate your kindness in their next posts. I usually give 300 to 500 pesos in the morning and never felt like a Cheap Charlie.
IMHO, of course.
Cheers - Hesekiels
1000 pesos, wow, that's indeed very generous of you! However, I could well imagine that some mates will excoriate your kindness in their next posts. I usually give 300 to 500 pesos in the morning and never felt like a Cheap Charlie.
IMHO, of course.
Cheers - HesekielsThe more you give them, the more they will talk among their workers, and the more they will expect.
Why give them anything? They are not giving you anything after they leave anyway, are they?
You can give them 10 pesos for a jeepney ride back to their dorm and that is enough!
1000 pesos, wow, that's indeed very generous of you! However, I could well imagine that some mates will excoriate your kindness in their next posts. I usually give 300 to 500 pesos in the morning and never felt like a Cheap Charlie.
IMHO, of course.
Cheers - HesekielsI was thinking just that since most everyone I know since 1995 would give anywhere from trike fare (poor performance) to 500P for excellent performance in todays pesos. Since I and they are not Japanese the girls would never expect different and are completely fine with it. At least I have never had a girl not want to barfine again the next night if they had their choice to pin me down.
You are paying 1200 pesos barfine. Then give 1000 peos as tip. It comes to almost 90% as tip. Where in the world is it normal to give 90% tip whatever the service is. To be termed as "cheap charlie" for not giving 90% tip is insane. Also it is a game played by all entertainment establishments. To be called cheap or big spender should not be considered important in your life. Who cares what they think of anyway.
I believe if you really like the girl buy her a gift or something. Giving money makes her greedy for more with the next person.
Having said that there are good girls who do not want you spend a lot. Once I picked up a girl at LA cafe with the agreement for 1500 pesos. In the morning because she gave good service I gave 2000 pesos. She declined the extra 500 pesos saying a deal is a deal.
Hi there,
reading ur post boldfocker and I also agree 1000 p a tip is way to much. If she wasnt something special and that means really outstanding 500 shoudl be enuff, normally I give 200 to 300 and 500 if I really like the gurl.
If you like her, buy her breakfast or invite her to dinner/lunch, buy flowers or choclates etc....make her feel she is special, but just dont give money.
BTW 2 things I wana tell:
On god friday a german guy who lived in AC long time was killed. I report bout that earlier here. His wife was suspected. Now I heard she had a pinoy bf and she got preggy from him, beeing afraid her husband would divorce her , he and his buddy went to his house when the guard had day off and killed him.
The police have their names but as usual they dont do nothing to punish them.
The wife sold the car, got the money and disappeared.
My buddy gave me an interesting thought why that happen to foreigners and why pinoys not scared to do it.
One reason is, we dont have relatives in PI. We are alone. If pinoys have quarel, mostly 20 cousin show up with a gun and the quarel is over. If we get killed, robbed or what ever, nobody will be around, nobody will help, there wont be 20 cousins showing up for revenge.....
Other thing. I heard a bargurl got killed in Clarkton brutally. The guy cut off her arms. He paid the police. According to my info he was german. He dont get arrested. I wonder where justice is in PI. Have anyone heard of that? Gurl was working in Lolipop bar. She was sneaking out, so no barfine..
Incident happen end of august.
laters....
B.
FireWalker
11-04-06, 12:09
DM is a filipino-run nickel-and-dime-you operation. Nice hotel, sure. But they will charge you extra for anything they can come up with. Need to crap? Well, that's 10 pesos for an extra roll of TP. DM also serves as lodging for "normal" guests ie filipinos attending the Systems+ computer college, so you may have some audience checking out your EWRs LOL.
If you want a real good deal, check out Patio Inn in Diamond Subd. They are doing a Cheap Charlie special 2 nites for 1000 Peso's for a room with AC/cable. Hard to beat. Patio also has various rooms/apts for long term stays if you decide to stay on in AC.They charge 20 pesos for extra towels and 50 pesos per stay for keeping docs, etc. in their safe. Not unreasonable. They don't charge extra for Credit Cards, which I think is fantastic. I have never gotten a funny look when I have brought back 2-3 girls. The DM is run very well and is always clean and quiet. Sure the Patio is cheap, but it is way off the beaten path. It would REQUIRE a tryke for a lot of your movement. I recommend DM because for someone on a budget that wants proximity, it is perfect. DM is 3 blocks from Checkpoint, Fields, 7-11, and Margarita Station. That is what is hard to beat.
FireWalker
11-04-06, 12:22
Thank you for the advice. I have located Federico Street on this map
http://www.acmap.com/fields_complete.asp (it is in the southwest corner) but unfortunately the map scale is not stated so may I ask you how far is from Santos Street?
Here in Pattaya I usually take minibuses(songtaw) for just 10 baht, have heard in Philippines jeepneys charge even less (8 pesos), are there around Balibago otr you must walk or use trikes/mototaxies?It is about 5-6 blocks away very close (easy walk). You can even walk the back way without going to Fields. My advice is to stay at DM Residente and then look around. But I think you will like it. It is a good value.
Use a jeepney when going out to Perimeter (5-10 minutes, traffic depending). Happy hour usually starts around 3pm. Then work your way back walking or jump on jeepney again. If you haven't found what you want, go to Fields at night. You can walk with your girl easy from Fields. If you find your girl on Perimeter, then tryke back. IMHO
Niagara Lodge has good split AC, cable TV, and free wireless internet throughout. Rooms are 900P now. Long term discounts are available as well as short time rates. Free laundry is a bonus. It's very close to Fields Ave , so no trikes needed. It has a great location, but is old and dingy throughout.Thanks for the info. I forgot to ask the most important thing. Are they guest-friendly or you get surcharge even for a short time? Also I sent them en e-mail at the address of the link but got an answer from Margarita Station. Does anyone know a way to DIRECTLY contact them, by phone or e-mail?
The more you give them, the more they will talk among their workers, and the more they will expect.
Why give them anything? They are not giving you anything after they leave anyway, are they?
You can give them 10 pesos for a jeepney ride back to their dorm and that is enough!
Actually it's P 7,50 LOL
Seriously, there is no need to pay anything if you get starfish, "painful-giant-titi" BS or the "one shot + call from sick mom/baby/water buffalo" routine. Better than that and it's entirely up to you to tip, and how much.
In fact, if you tip 1000 (about 4 days' wages for a normal shopgirl) you will be regarded as a sucker, with the possible risks that entails...
I have already bought my air ticket that will deliver me to Manila Airport 20 Nov at 18:15. Still have to choose Hotel but was thinking to DM Residente.
What transport way do you advice me to use for trip from airport to hotel?
Should I take a bus is the arrival station in AC near Balibago ? Is it possible to take jeepney-taxi (even mototaxi, I travel with hand luggage only) from there to hotel?
Niagara Lodge is guest friendly. It has a 24 hour restaurant and bar. The rooms also have a refrigerator, gas burners, and dinnerware. Good for really tight budgets.
Typical guest breakdown:
45% Scandanavian (owner is Swedish), 25% Australian, 15% American, 10% other European, 5% Asian
Phone: 63-45-625-6025. . There is no website. PM me if you want their Hotmail address.
Hello Gentlemen
Having been to Pattaya and Bangkok 4 times, I think I'm ready to try AC. So I need a little help from the AC fans. I have read a lot on this board and think I know most of the pros and cons of AC. But I hope some of you can clear some things up for me.
1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True or false?
2. AC girls have more curves than Thai girls. True or false?
3. AC girls are more willing to try anal. True or false?
4. AC girls are more willing to participate in 3-somes. True or false?
5. You can buy a ticket in Bangkok and travel to Philippines easily and get a visa on arrival (I'm American). True or false?
6. Most important question...just exactly how safe is AC? The States deparment has a travel warning for the Philippines. I know it is probably safe but I just want to make sure. I always feel safe in BKK or Pattaya but I'm always alert. And I don't drink.
Thank you guys in advance for your info.
EggCouldnt see any direct answers to this (although it could be a very old post).
I've added some answers anyway:
1. On average, girls cost less and the hotels cost more.
2. Most AC girls are fatter than TL girls because the eat to much junk food and dont take care of themselves.
3. Hard to answer - if you ask the mamasan for a 3-holer then she will point out which girls do that. Younger girls are very unlikely to be talked into it though.
4. AC girls will happily bring a friend or two with you to your room.
If you want a great 3-some you should either visit an SOB type party and see which girls are there from each bar, or have long chats in the bars about what the girls like to do with each other on a barfine.
5. Yes you can get a visa on arrival.
6. If you feel safe in Bangkok and Pattaya and youre always alert and sober, then AC will seem very safe. Just dont walk around the dark back streets late at night.
They charge 20 pesos for extra towels and 50 pesos per stay for keeping docs, etc. in their safe. Not unreasonable. They don't charge extra for Credit Cards, which I think is fantastic. I have never gotten a funny look when I have brought back 2-3 girls..
I was just mentioning the fact that DM serves as a lodging for filipinos attending the college etc. That is not very common for the other hotels in that area. Of course if there is no course taking place, no potential problem.
The DM is run very well..
Actually I would contest that. The security is NOT that good and there are some other issues as well...
Sure the Patio is cheap, but it is way off the beaten path. It would REQUIRE a tryke for a lot of your movement...
No need to use a trike. I've walked to and fro Diamond at all hours. If you have a lazy BF in tow you might want to use a trike, else I don't see the need unless you have a health problem..
IAmSlobbyist
11-06-06, 00:14
Bold Focker made a report about a bad experience with a girl at LV club in the photo gallery section. I did not have the same girl, but I had a similar experience at that club. I BF a girl who was young and really cute. She was bubbly and fun in the club although not in uniform. After I BF her we went to another club. She all of a sudden got moody and quiet at another club after receiving a text.
She basically became a bump on a log at the next club sitting all sullen. I knew this was not a good sign for future activities. I was with a friend with a PI wife. She tried to talk to her and told me she got a strange text from someone she had BF before. Whatever, I did not care. I did not want to have a cold fish back at the hotel, so we brought her back to the club and got a refund on the BF.
I learned a couple lessons from this. Never BF a girl out of uniform. Also, make sure the girl is into you before the BF. Have a drink with them and make sure there is chemistry. I have been told that it is better to let the girls choose you instead of the other way around. This assures that they like you and assures good service back in the room.
BTW, I always tipped 500 and the girls always seemed pleased with this.
Peace
Bold Focker
11-06-06, 02:31
Hi Barbarossa,
The girl I had was different outside the LV club, but when we did eventually get back to the room, the sex was fantastic. The fact that she was inexperienced was not a problem, and in fact I quite liked it! It was one of the reasons I wanted to BF her again. We had a very good time together. She had a good sense of humour, and did not get upset when I teased her about her sexual inexperience.
The last night is a little confusing tho, my only explanation is that, she had not finished her period, and realised that this would cause a problem, when we got back to the room.
I am going back in February, so I will have another go then. I Cant see her being inexperienced then tho!
Thank you guys for putting me right about the tipping. My next trip will only be 500 as long as i get the service!
Bold Focker made a report about a bad experience with a girl at LV club in the photo gallery section. I did not have the same girl, but I had a similar experience at that club. I BF a girl who was young and really cute. She was bubbly and fun in the club although not in uniform. After I BF her we went to another club. She all of a sudden got moody and quiet at another club after receiving a text.
She basically became a bump on a log at the next club sitting all sullen. I knew this was not a good sign for future activities. I was with a friend with a PI wife. She tried to talk to her and told me she got a strange text from someone she had BF before. Whatever, I did not care. I did not want to have a cold fish back at the hotel, so we brought her back to the club and got a refund on the BF.
I learned a couple lessons from this. Never BF a girl out of uniform. Also, make sure the girl is into you before the BF. Have a drink with them and make sure there is chemistry. I have been told that it is better to let the girls choose you instead of the other way around. This assures that they like you and assures good service back in the room.
BTW, I always tipped 500 and the girls always seemed pleased with this.
Peace
OK, you will have seen that after a bit of a while I am coming out of hiding and passing on my experience.
Not sure whether experience is useful or not, will let senior members decide.
My own view is fairly simple, Girls in Angeles is simply about two things, chemistry and fun. The second cannot happen without the first... Can have a lot of fun in the bar then the take home is no good. Have never had no fun in bar and found take home to be the reverse.
Now before everyone sends me a response that says you can have chemistry without fun, I would simply ask them to tell me a story (for all of us) when they had fun with a girl from Angeles bar without having any sort of Chemistry. Lets all (including the lady in the equation) have a bit of fun!
These two things are mixed.
My favorite bar in Angeles remains Bule Nile Executive and Blue Nile, combination of of good dancers and good fun with a group of good friends. However must confess to not having visited for about 9 months, need to find a reason.
Happy times.
Niagara Lodge is guest friendly. It has a 24 hour restaurant and bar. The rooms also have a refrigerator, gas burners, and dinnerware. Good for really tight budgets.
Typical guest breakdown:
45% Scandanavian (owner is Swedish), 25% Australian, 15% American, 10% other European, 5% Asian
Phone: 63-45-625-6025. . There is no website. PM me if you want their Hotmail address.Thank you for the info but I just swifted 7 days of rent to DM Residente this morning (and this morning - Pattaya hour fuse - all these new messages were not still online). Anyway my stay is 21 days long and it is just a first reconnaissance trip (thanks to Thai Immigration idiotic stubborness I guess I will spend a LOT of my future time and MONEY in Philippines ) so I will sure have plenty of future obcasions to follow your advices
I was just mentioning the fact that DM serves as a lodging for filipinos attending the college etc. That is not very common for the other hotels in that area. Of course if there is no course taking place, no potential problem.
Actually I would contest that. The security is NOT that good and there are some other issues as well.
No need to use a trike. I've walked to and fro Diamond at all hours. If you have a lazy BF in tow you might want to use a trike, else I don't see the need unless you have a health problem..Thanks also for your contribution, anyway The Patio answered my e-mail saying they were full already and the 2 nights x 1000PHP offer of course no more available.
Boys I have got my province girl friend pregnant God damn it. She is only 3 weeks late on her period thank God. I have sent her to doctors and gynaecologists in her province of Samar to do a curet or what ever will fix this and no one there is willing to perform this procedure for love or money.
Surly some one must know a hospital or doctor in Manila or Samar I can send her to as soon as possible to fix this.
If you can offer any advise please PM me.
I have been told of a pill called Sytotec that will induce menstruation up till 5 weeks of pregnancy. Fingers crossed.
Bold Focker made a report about a bad experience with a girl at LV club in the photo gallery section. I did not have the same girl, but I had a similar experience at that club. I BF a girl who was young and really cute. She was bubbly and fun in the club although not in uniform. After I BF her we went to another club. She all of a sudden got moody and quiet at another club after receiving a text.
She basically became a bump on a log at the next club sitting all sullen. I knew this was not a good sign for future activities. I was with a friend with a PI wife. She tried to talk to her and told me she got a strange text from someone she had BF before. Whatever, I did not care. I did not want to have a cold fish back at the hotel, so we brought her back to the club and got a refund on the BF.
I learned a couple lessons from this. Never BF a girl out of uniform. Also, make sure the girl is into you before the BF. Have a drink with them and make sure there is chemistry. I have been told that it is better to let the girls choose you instead of the other way around. This assures that they like you and assures good service back in the room.
BTW, I always tipped 500 and the girls always seemed pleased with this.
PeaceUnless you know the girl previously, if a girl is out of uniform you cant be certain that she even works there. This can be the makings of a scam and has proven in the past to have possibly serious concequences.
Yeah it can be good for the girl to pick you sometimes, but the girls that I like can be more shy or dominated by the more aggressive girls. Most guys are in AC to live out a fantasy or ten so you should choose the girl you really like (if you have enough experience to suss out the non-performers).
You did well to act quickly and take the girl back for a refund. If you wait longer then this can become a pain in the ass and the mamasan can be reluctant to pay you back (any excuse to keep your money).
The change in your girl's demeanor could have been the result of anything imaginable - I'm so jaded that I will immediately presume its a scam to do a runner.
And regarding your tipping policy - I'm sure the girls are happy with 500P considering that this doubles the earnings they made from your original barfine. I know that the issue of tipping has been discussed to death, but in AC most girls are happy with ANYTHING extra. I might buy them a meal if I am planning on seeing them again or want to barfine another girl from their club on that trip, but seriously if they want more money from me then they can just call and come to my room for a ST.
The girls in AC live for money and thats why they are there and they certainly know what they need to do to get it. Try to make them work hard for the money or it will turn them into spoilt greedy girls who provide little in return.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]It is generally recognised that in the morning, you pay the girl a tip, depending on her performance! So what should the tip be? I give 1000p, which talking to other mongers, I think is the norm, any thing less than that and you might get branded a “Cheap Charlie” The bar manager told me that some only give 200p, probable why the girls like the Japanese.
I barfined last night at blue nile, i was totally pissed at the time having drinks with the manager, i took the girl back had a just ok sex time after 2 hours in bed, time 5.00am she said i go now i said ok, she said what abour my tip? I said go now no tip stay with me till we wake up i tip, i gave her 250 peso+ choc bar, she was happy.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]It is generally recognised that in the morning, you pay the girl a tip, depending on her performance! So what should the tip be? I give 1000p, which talking to other mongers, I think is the norm, any thing less than that and you might get branded a “Cheap Charlie” The bar manager told me that some only give 200p, probable why the girls like the Japanese.
I barfined last night at blue nile, i was totally pissed at the time having drinks with the manager, i took the girl back had a just ok sex time after 2 hours in bed, time 5.00am she said i go now i said ok, she said what abour my tip? I said go now no tip stay with me till we wake up i tip, i gave her 250 peso+ choc bar, she was happy.
Hi there.
I have been going to AC for 25 years and I find that a 1,000 pesos tip in the morning is for a girl who really blew your mind all night. The local ex-pats there hardly tip the girls at all. They say the girl will get half her bar fine anyway plus her share of the drinks you bought her in the bar. If she is great in bed I say 300 to 500 short time tip and 500 to 1,000 long time tip depending on her attitude, your satisfaction and the situation.
Just my 10 cents worth.
Cheers
Bold Focker
11-10-06, 02:28
Another good club, I found interesting, was called stringers next door to Las Vegas.
It has a pool table and a nice relaxed atmosphere!
BF I thing was about 1300p, drinks were normally priced.
About 15-20 girls. In my view worth a visit!
girl in picture is called tricy.
Well, finish the story!
I'll assume she stayed. What time did you wake up? Did the sex get any better?
And, congrats on having sex while totally pissed at 3:00am plus. Not an easy task, especially for us older guys.
X
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I barfined last night at blue nile, i was totally pissed at the time having drinks with the manager, i took the girl back had a just ok sex time after 2 hours in bed, time 5.00am she said i go now i said ok, she said what abour my tip? I said go now no tip stay with me till we wake up i tip, i gave her 250 peso+ choc bar, she was happy.
Also, there is no reason to pay 2500 pesos for a ride from Manila to AC. When you get off at the airport, bypass the line of cabs and get one that is not connected with the airport. Make sure they use the meter, and go to the Swagman Hotel at 411 A. Flores Street in Ermita and, for 500 pesos, purchase a "Fly the Bus" ticket to AC. They'll drop you off at the hotel of your choice.Considering my plane scheduled arrival is 18:15 I don't think I will be able to get the "Fly the Bus" before 20:00. Are they still in service at such hour?
Anyway how far away is "Fly the Bus" from the airport ? How much should I expect to pay as taxi fare to get there ?
FireWalker
11-12-06, 13:30
[QUOTE=Any Hole]
Hi there.
I have been going to AC for 25 years and I find that a 1,000 pesos tip in the morning is for a girl who really blew your mind all night. The local ex-pats there hardly tip the girls at all. They say the girl will get half her bar fine anyway plus her share of the drinks you bought her in the bar. If she is great in bed I say 300 to 500 short time tip and 500 to 1,000 long time tip depending on her attitude, your satisfaction and the situation.
Just my 10 cents worth.
CheersYou are overtipping, man, and that's fine, but a good salary in the Phils is 100-150 usd a month. There is only one girl I ever tipped 500 pesos. I have never been labeled a "cheap charley" and I don't have girls turning me down saying they are on their mense, either.
I think most of the girls (at least the ones I am interested in) just want to have a nice time and be treated well. And I only buy one lady drink for the girl "I know" I am going to barfine. I think you will find that you get the best out of the girls when you are stronger. It has little to do with the tip and more how you handle them.
FireWalker
11-12-06, 13:32
Boys I have got my province girl friend pregnant God damn it. She is only 3 weeks late on her period thank God. I have sent her to doctors and gynaecologists in her province of Samar to do a curet or what ever will fix this and no one there is willing to perform this procedure for love or money.
Surly some one must know a hospital or doctor in Manila or Samar I can send her to as soon as possible to fix this.
If you can offer any advise please PM me.Try a nice bottle of Chardonnay and a hot tub, man.
FireWalker
11-12-06, 13:43
Thanks for the info. I forgot to ask the most important thing. Are they guest-friendly or you get surcharge even for a short time? Also I sent them en e-mail at the address of the link but got an answer from Margarita Station. Does anyone know a way to DIRECTLY contact them, by phone or e-mail?For a driver email Al at alrentscar@hotmail.com
He is very reliable 2500 pesos is his rate
A friend that has used him for 10 years turned me on to him. My friend is very picky and is well traveled, as well as, a very successful business owner himself.
If you want to take a bus, get cab to Cubao(buy ticket at cab booth for 650? pesos) to Victory Liner. 200? pesos to DAU (whcih is near AC), there take 8 pesos jeepney to Checkpoint. Don't be afraid to ask someone directions, but don't let them help you get there. If you walk across Fields Ave. from checkpoint go 3 blocks turn right and at end of block is DM Residente.
ThePest1998
11-12-06, 15:04
Say who goes to AC next weekend, do pm me. we can explore the gals that everyone was talking about. I am new to the place.
Considering my plane scheduled arrival is 18:15 I don't think I will be able to get the "Fly the Bus" before 20:00. Are they still in service at such hour? Anyway how far away is "Fly the Bus" from the airport ? How much should I expect to pay as taxi fare to get there ?
A cheap and easy option is to take a taxi from the airport to Five Star bus terminal in Pasay City (about 70 pesos). Take from there a North Bound Bus to Dau (about 130 pesos) and from Dau's Mabalacat bus terminal a tricyle to Balibago (about 70 pesos).
When you leave the arrival hall at let's say 7:30 pm this works pretty well. Have a save trip!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Considering my plane scheduled arrival is 18:15 I don't think I will be able to get the "Fly the Bus" before 20:00. Are they still in service at such hour?
Anyway how far away is "Fly the Bus" from the airport ? How much should I expect to pay as taxi fare to get there ?
You can still make the last "Fly the bus" as it departs Swagman hotel at 20:30.
The hotel is only 11 kms from the airport and supposedly they will pick you up for 200 pesos. Double check with Swagman hotel for the latest info. We all expect you to file a FR on your assessment of AC.
Excelsior!
FireWalker,
Let me tell you that if you don't tip at all as you say, you WILL be known as a cheap Charlie amongst the girls even if they don't tell you to your face, as they are shy.
All these girls are there working in bars as they have children or Families to support. No one is just there for a fun night out. They would rather date a hot young man for fun rather than mature often fat and ugly foreigners. Please don't be deluded about the reasons and meanings of a tip in AC. In a small way, I tip just about everybody I talk to. I am never taken advantage of. Any one that asks me for money gets nothing. I have many true friends there over the years. I tip everyone from the honest trike driver to the waitress to the Mammasan but it is a gesture tip not a considerable some of money. Like 10 or 20 pesos to the waitress, 10 pesos to the trike driver etc. This has opened doors for me that would normally have been closed. Remember we are dealing with a very poor population and every little bit helps. A bowl of rice and some dried fish can be bought for 10 pesos if you are a local.
I am against over tipping so that the girls start to expect it, as they now do with Japanese customers which has made them popular in the bars. I just feel that a little kindness and a small show of appreciation for a job well done works wonders.
Good karma you might say.
Cheers.
I tip everyone from the honest trike driver to the waitress to the Mammasan but it is a gesture tip not a considerable some of money. Like 10 or 20 pesos to the waitress, 10 pesos to the trike driver etc.
If you tip the "honest trikedrivers" a measly P 10 you run the risk of being labeled a kuripot [ cheap charlie ] and will never be able to hail a trike again. For good service always tip the trikedrivers at least 20 pesos, or better yet a new, crisp P 50 note [ a folded or dirty one might be taken as an insult ]
Let's all try to make the trike guys feel good and let them know how much we appreciate their valuable services in AC!
If you tip the "honest trikedrivers" a measly P 10 you run the risk of being labeled a kuripot [ cheap charlie ] and will never be able to hail a trike again. For good service always tip the trikedrivers at least 20 pesos, or better yet a new, crisp P 50 note [ a folded or dirty one might be taken as an insult ]
Let's all try to make the trike guys feel good and let them know how much we appreciate their valuable services in AC!
I hope you are kidding.
If you tip the "honest trikedrivers" a measly P 10 you run the risk of being labeled a kuripot [ cheap charlie ] and will never be able to hail a trike again. For good service always tip the trikedrivers at least 20 pesos, or better yet a new, crisp P 50 note [ a folded or dirty one might be taken as an insult ]
Let's all try to make the trike guys feel good and let them know how much we appreciate their valuable services in AC!
If you are being serious, then your experiences with trike drivers are very different to mine. Usually trike drivers are the scum of the earth who will try and rip you off at every opportunity. I have to watch my back with them all the time. They are behind many of the robberies in AC.
I had never heard that an old note might offend them as it has not been my experience and they are so desperate for business and they are so money orientated that no matter what you do to one of them, you will always find a driver willing to take you.
Just my view, it may be different for others.
Cheers.
Naked Gunz
11-14-06, 23:03
FireWalker,
Let me tell you that if you don't tip at all as you say, you WILL be known as a cheap Charlie amongst the girls even if they don't tell you to your face, as they are shy.
All these girls are there working in bars as they have children or Families to support. No one is just there for a fun night out. They would rather date a hot young man for fun rather than mature often fat and ugly foreigners. Please don't be deluded about the reasons and meanings of a tip in AC. In a small way, I tip just about everybody I talk to. I am never taken advantage of. Any one that asks me for money gets nothing. I have many true friends there over the years. I tip everyone from the honest trike driver to the waitress to the Mammasan but it is a gesture tip not a considerable some of money. Like 10 or 20 pesos to the waitress, 10 pesos to the trike driver etc. This has opened doors for me that would normally have been closed. Remember we are dealing with a very poor population and every little bit helps. A bowl of rice and some dried fish can be bought for 10 pesos if you are a local.
I am against over tipping so that the girls start to expect it, as they now do with Japanese customers which has made them popular in the bars. I just feel that a little kindness and a small show of appreciation for a job well done works wonders.
Good karma you might say.
Cheers.
Hitting Subic today..I'll try to remember this. But I hate having that "I'm a walking ATM and about to get jacked" feeling that is ever so present.
Or the "Your a walkin ATM and about to get jacked" stare.
MrCuddles: If you tip everone everywhere as Herr Blastoff suggests, you will, quite naturally, be taken as a fool and wil be taken advantage of. Please remember not all of us have the powers of Blastoff which include getting two doctors to tell him by long distance phone call and for no financial reward that their charges had abortions (anyone say doctor patient confidentiality?) and Malate money changers hand over their money to him before he hands his to them?
Please also remember that young stay at homes and back packer types get their kicks by disseminating false information. Tip, if you must, where tipping is the norm (no special favours) and don't where it is not the norm. If you eat where the Pinoys eat, you will be a novelty to the staff. A tip won't make a lot of difference though backpackers and stay at homes would not know this.
Well, finish the story!
I'll assume she stayed. What time did you wake up? Did the sex get any better?
And, congrats on having sex while totally pissed at 3:00am plus. Not an easy task, especially for us older guys.
X
I am in the middle of writting my full report on my angeles trip, but can let you know the details for this particular hunt.
i got this girl from the executive club bit, she is 18, slim, 4' 10" height, only been barfined twice, Rob the manager had got me into a drinking session, i was only on diet cokes when i visited, but it ended with me having 12 sam mig lights.
When we got back to orchid inn i just wanted a fuck and empty my load inside her and thats what happened, i seem to be better totally pissed sometimes, so no messing just shoved it in and in 20 seconds came.
We slept or half slept she woke up in 2 hours, and then agreed to stay till we wake up proper which was about 2.30pm, our eyes then met, and i climbed aboard and fucked her again for a minute this time, no kissing her breath just stunk!,we showered together, walked her out of orchid and i paid her tip.
[QUOTE=Any Hole]
Hi there.
I have been going to AC for 25 years and I find that a 1,000 pesos tip in the morning is for a girl who really blew your mind all night. The local ex-pats there hardly tip the girls at all. They say the girl will get half her bar fine anyway plus her share of the drinks you bought her in the bar. If she is great in bed I say 300 to 500 short time tip and 500 to 1,000 long time tip depending on her attitude, your satisfaction and the situation.
Just my 10 cents worth.
Cheers
I have been going to angeles for 2 years now ( 7 visits) and i have never met a girl who has blown my mind with the sex she has offered, i have met girls who have totally fucked my mind in letting me beleive they wanted some romantic relationship with me, and that has cost me loads more than 1000 peso!
I have started a new policy, I do not tip. period.
I get the same service.
Why throw money afterwards? It won't improve your service at all.
If you need better service you need to tell the person beforehand... "If you drive without honking your horn, blasting your radio and making me afraid for my life, cabbie, I will give you a bonus!"
Or, "if you take it up the ass, 3 hole me, I will pay you a bonus".
But if you say nothing and always give a tip, you have gained no control over the performance of their duties. Actually you sour the person on their job because they think they deserve a tip all the time for [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor performance.
I see no reason to tip someone for doing what you paid them to do in the first place. That's why you agree on a price beforehand! I tried to do some research on the reason for tipping. I found that the purpose is generally when someone goes above and beyond the original duties as assigned.
It seems to have become a "custom" for filipinos to ask for a tip for just about any and everything. Why, I dont know but they do. Everytime I take a taxi, and the bill comes to 65p and I give them 100p bill, they inevitably will give me 20p bill back as though its a given! Thinking they automatically deserve the 15p difference. Hate that!
I work hard for my money also and if "I" feel like giving someone a tip because they did "something" other than drive me to my destination or put a plate of food on the table then it should be up to me to decide to give a tip....not them. The fact that I make more money or can "afford" to give the extra doesn't give anyone the right to assume its ok to decide for me.
When taxi drivers do that...I ask for all of my change back, then if I decide to give something I do. I dislike the fact filipinas ask for tip after the deed or "taxi" money. Why do they feel the man has to pay for her, the bar, the hotel AND a ride back to wherever she's going to?? "Umm, I think I just paid you, use that to get back to where you're going." It's all under the premise that "you can afford it, I'm only poor province girl"!
For me, you need to do more than what I said I was paying you for. As Npaul1 said... provide better service/additional service and I'll give you something extra. Guys dont give a tip just bcuz. Yeah its your money and you can do what you wish....but so can I.
Call me cheap charlie all you want, I can care less...but I bet you'll visit the ATM more times than me...lol!
I have started a new policy, I do not tip. period.
I suppose you are not an American!? I am just wondering if you would stick to your strict policy in Chicago as well?
Cheers - Hesekiels
If you are being serious, then your experiences with trike drivers are very different to mine. Usually trike drivers are the scum of the earth who will try and rip you off at every opportunity. I have to watch my back with them all the time. They are behind many of the robberies in AC.
Cheers.Some are like that but others are decent and honest I've found. As a matter of fact the very first time I went to AC I got rolled for $300 in a poker game so I had to get money sent to me from back home. I didn't even have enough to make the call and the Trike driver I was with covered it much to my astonishment. When I finally did get the money it took me a while to track him down but needless to say he was overjoyed at the thought of not getting stiffed by a tourist LOL.
In Chicago a tip is called a "kickback" if you worked for the political machine, or "referral fee" if in the private sector AND IF YOU WANT REPEAT BUSINESS from them, like repeat contracts for the garbage company.
Tips are for extra service from people you continue to do business with, like your barber, for trimming the hair from the inside of your ears, a waitress you tip because she brought you another desert when the first one was dried day old pie. It is for extra services not for the same, already bargained for services.
A girl you had sex with once will probably not be a repeater. If she is, then she becomes a girlfriend!
I have started a new policy, I do not tip. period.
I get the same service.
Why throw money afterwards? It won't improve your service at all.
If you need better service you need to tell the person beforehand... "If you drive without honking your horn, blasting your radio and making me afraid for my life, cabbie, I will give you a bonus!"
Or, "if you take it up the ass, 3 hole me, I will pay you a bonus".
But if you say nothing and always give a tip, you have gained no control over the performance of their duties. Actually you sour the person on their job because they think they deserve a tip all the time for [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor performance.
I agree with this. If a girl gives [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor performance to the point of being anoying, u can and often should not give her a tip and in some cases go to the Mammasan and complain and usually they will either give you your money back or a free girl. That have been my experience.
I see no reason to tip someone for doing what you paid them to do in the first place. That's why you agree on a price beforehand! I tried to do some research on the reason for tipping. I found that the purpose is generally when someone goes above and beyond the original duties as assigned.
It seems to have become a "custom" for filipinos to ask for a tip for just about any and everything. Why, I dont know but they do. Everytime I take a taxi, and the bill comes to 65p and I give them 100p bill, they inevitably will give me 20p bill back as though its a given! Thinking they automatically deserve the 15p difference. Hate that!
I work hard for my money also and if "I" feel like giving someone a tip because they did "something" other than drive me to my destination or put a plate of food on the table then it should be up to me to decide to give a tip....not them. The fact that I make more money or can "afford" to give the extra doesn't give anyone the right to assume its ok to decide for me.
When taxi drivers do that...I ask for all of my change back, then if I decide to give something I do. I dislike the fact filipinas ask for tip after the deed or "taxi" money. Why do they feel the man has to pay for her, the bar, the hotel AND a ride back to wherever she's going to?? "Umm, I think I just paid you, use that to get back to where you're going." It's all under the premise that "you can afford it, I'm only poor province girl"!
For me, you need to do more than what I said I was paying you for. As Npaul1 said... provide better service/additional service and I'll give you something extra. Guys dont give a tip just bcuz. Yeah its your money and you can do what you wish....but so can I.
Call me cheap charlie all you want, I can care less...but I bet you'll visit the ATM more times than me...lol!
Trim-
I have had this same argument with my friends living in the U.S. Any time you catch a taxi or eat in a restaurant in the U.S. it is a given that you will tip 10% to 15% or more 100% of the time. I have sat in restaurants with my American friends where I have not been happy with the service and refused to tip but as the tip is so ingrained there and the waitress would be totally offended if she got nothing, my friend tipped her because I wouldn't. I to hate that culture. My tips come from me getting good service at what ever level.
Cheers.
Bill Buxton
11-15-06, 23:41
It is very normal to screen the gals here in the bar and then when the door slams behind them in the bar when you walk out they CHANGE. The gals talk the talk and walk the walk and then when the bar hop ends and the dInner fork is put away and its time for the deed the sutuation falls short or not at all.
I feel this is a very normal experence to deal with here and even in other places.I bfed 2 girls and fed both and got the old I do not want to do anything once in the room.This wasted 4 hrs of my time and four trike rides.You should be careful about asking a gal to sit with you and before you give the ladied drink if u want the girl ask if she wants to bar fine.The waitress will ask you to buy a drink often before you know the name and the gal puts her ass in the seat beside you.This is a problem if you say YES get a drink and then ask the gal for the BF they sometimes say no or next time.Then the drink comes and you are 150-p in the hole for a drink that will not get you a thing.
The girls make half the money on each ladies drink and the bar the other half.Same with the bar fine half the girl and half for the bar.The girls depend on tips the next morning.You will be considered a cheep charley if you tip less than 500-p the next morning.The gal will weigh out her nextvisit with you depending on the time of day you come in the bar.1000-p tip will hands down get you a repete visit from almost all the gals.Trike money the next day will most of the time never get you second visits.
Tips in the bars to the wait staff is very inportant because they set the pace when you return.50-100-p tips to the waitress will get you good service and also a good relationship with the dancers.BECAUSE THEY ALL TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING WE DO!!!!!!!!!!!
Just some helpful tips for the tough job we all face here every day.
PLAY SAFE, B.B...
Bill Buxton,
I agree with most of what you say except for the fact that some girls will not put out sex for you after you have paid the bar fine. This has NEVER happened to me, even with the new girls who just arrived from Samar a few days back. All the girls know that when you bar fine them, you WILL have sex with them unless they are cherry girls. This is fact. If a girl says no to sex once back in your hotel, she is trying you out, just like a horse when you first get on tries to buck you off for a few minutes until you show it who is boss. A few harsh words and threats such as you will take her back to the bar and tell the Mammasan that you want your money back usually does it. They all turn around and do the right thing in the end for me.
On this forum, some one earlier said here that he often has bad sex with Filipina girls, I can say I almost NEVER have bad sex with them in many years. They are passionate, GFE, warm, horny and all the things we look for in that kind of experience. Rarely am I or my friends disappointed. I have said this before and I will say it again here, if you make a girl laugh she will soon like you and the nice to you. Learn a few silly and funny things to say in Tagalog like “Tingel” or “Chuppa” and the girls will laugh there hearts out.
The problem is that sometimes, it's the guy who is not controlling the reins right and then blames the horse LOL. Be firm but fair and you will have few problems and lots of great experiences.
Everything else you said was spot on.
Thanks
Just my view.
FireWalker
11-17-06, 11:50
firewalker,
let me tell you that if you don't tip at all as you say, you will be known as a cheap charlie amongst the girls even if they don't tell you to your face, as they are shy.
i am against over tipping so that the girls start to expect it, as they now do with japanese customers which has made them popular in the bars. i just feel that a little kindness and a small show of appreciation for a job well done works wonders.
good karma you might say.
cheers.
i've never tipped $0 to a girl before. the least is 70 pesos to a girl who left after an hour and a half to go meet her boyfriend. but tipping 1000 pesos is over tipping.
equating tipping to "good karma" is a stretch. now i would call paying a girl's barfine so she could go visit relatives closer to "good karma", which i have done before.
before you launch on a speech about all the lazy relatives that bleed these girls (yet treat them like shit b/c of their jobs), why do you way overtip the bargirls and tip fairly normally the waitresses and tryke drivers?
I knew one old codger who was an extremely generous tipper. His rational was that "I'm old, ugly and fat." I guess he felt sorry for the ladies. It makes a bit of sense.
Of course another thought is that if these women are generously rewarded, others may decide to give it a try.
I want all of you to tip well in order to insure the long term growth of the industry!
X
Only Looking
11-17-06, 15:38
Boys I have got my province girl friend pregnant God damn it. She is only 3 weeks late on her period thank God. I have sent her to doctors and gynaecologists in her province of Samar to do a curet or what ever will fix this and no one there is willing to perform this procedure for love or money.
Surly some one must know a hospital or doctor in Manila or Samar I can send her to as soon as possible to fix this.
If you can offer any advise please PM me.How do you know its yours? You surely don't believe she is faithful to you do you?
Bill Buxton
11-17-06, 19:25
Bad sex the bad sex part is when the 80 pound gal has3 beers and 1-2 mixed drinks and is so drunk she will not perform. The sex is robotic in some cases and not gfe with some!
They do the deed for money and many guys have experenced the same here.I am glad you have never had any problems here.Every timeyou roll the dice you get a chance of being made stupid.This is a phrase that is ofted used here by many gals.Sometimes you win sometimes you fall short of the mark.
The best rule of thumb is to bf the gal take her back and try out the ride.This is first before dinner and any barhops.If she is trying for a no action nite this will tell the score.This is used by many here as normal operating prosedure.
BB...
I used to practice law before I retired 6 years ago. Many times I gave good service.
Not once did I get a tip. Never did I receive a bonus.
Once I got a nice card from a young girl I helped win a personal injury settlement. No one else.
If lawyers don't get tips, why should whoors? Are whoors better than lawyers?
When you need a good one, you really do not mind paying for both! But why tip either?
i've never tipped $0 to a girl before. the least is 70 pesos to a girl who left after an hour and a half to go meet her boyfriend. but tipping 1000 pesos is over tipping.
equating tipping to "good karma" is a stretch. now i would call paying a girl's barfine so she could go visit relatives closer to "good karma", which i have done before.
before you launch on a speech about all the lazy relatives that bleed these girls (yet treat them like shit b/c of their jobs), why do you way overtip the bargirls and tip fairly normally the waitresses and tryke drivers?
i don't over tip the bar girls. there is an industry standard that is well known in ac and written about on this forum many times. if the girl stays over night and you enjoy yourself, the minimum tip is 500-peso and the maximum is 1,000 or what ever you feel she deserves and has earned.
i have dozens of bar girl friends who i am in regular contact with; i also have bar owner friends and mammasan friends. i did not pull these figures or points out of a hat. i have gone to many friends bars before opening time and chatted to my friends as the got ready for work and hear them talking about the cheap charlies who didn't give them a reasonable tip. this conversation happens everyday in every bar. the girls tell each other everything right down to the size of your dick! there are no secrets in the bar. foreigners are all considered rich no matter if it is true or not. tipping from 70 pesos to say 300 pesos for an over night service is considered an offence. if you don't believe me, ask the mammasans or bar owners what the status quo of expectation is. of coarse you are not obliged or forced to pay 1 peso if you don't want to but i feel if a beautiful girl has sex with you all night, the usd$20 bar fine which she gets to keep only $10 of, is just not enough for the effort and risk she puts herself in by going with customers. an additional $10 is a token of appreciation for work well done and a show of good will. where else in the world with a beautiful, english speaking, passionate girl, sleep with you all night and take home only $20 including your 500 tip? come on man, if money is that tight, mongering may be out of the reach of some.
that's all i have to say on the subject.
happy mongering.
How do you know its yours? You surely don't believe she is faithful to you do you?
I came inside her 2 weeks after she finished her period. This is peak fertility time for a woman so the probabilities are hight that it is mine. Further more, for the few hundred bucks all up that I paid directly to doctors and drug stores, it gives me piece of mind even it isn't mine.
Cheers.
Bad sex the bad sex part is when the 80 pound gal has3 beers and 1-2 mixed drinks and is so drunk she will not perform. The sex is robotic in some cases and not gfe with some!
They do the deed for money and many guys have experenced the same here.I am glad you have never had any problems here.Every timeyou roll the dice you get a chance of being made stupid.This is a phrase that is ofted used here by many gals.Sometimes you win sometimes you fall short of the mark.
The best rule of thumb is to bf the gal take her back and try out the ride.This is first before dinner and any barhops.If she is trying for a no action nite this will tell the score.This is used by many here as normal operating prosedure.
BB...
BB,
I see the difference. I NEVER take a drunk girl home nor do I take her bar hopping first if I want to have good sex. I make sure she is sober and well informed of my expectations before I pay the bar fine. I think screening them makes a lot of difference to who you end up with and the performance in bed.
Don't get me wrong, as expected some have been better than others but none have been bad and unsatisfying in bed as they agreed to what I want in advance and there is no grey areas. If I am in any doubt I repeat our agreement in front of her Mammasan at the bar and have her confirm it. This reduces the risk of the girl saying she didn't agree even further. Sure some of the girls who don't know me try me on as we say but they don’t get far. After sex, a small number say the usual things like, "My cousin just txt me so I have to go" or "I have a family emergency etc" LOL. I just laugh and say, sure no problems, I will just head to the bar now and get my money back. Suddenly the emergency is gone lol. They then know that you know how the game is played. A fool and his money is soon parted as they say.
An other thing I insist on and agree on at the bar first, is that the girl’s cell phone is to be turned off the whole time she is with me. Most girls hate that but it creates a peaceful environment and gives them fewer excuses to leave.
I have been lucky because the few times I had a runner, after having good sex with her for an hour or so, she left regardless. I simply walked over to the bar where I knew the Mammasan in this case, and told her the story. The Mammasan simply said, “Pick an other girl”. Effectively, this gave me 2 girls for the price of 1 lol. This is turning a bad situation into a good one wouldn't you say? The Mammasan also told me that the runner would NOT be getting her share of the bar fine. This should teach her at least a little leasson. I then proceeded to give the second girl a nice tip in the morning as she was great in bed and stayed until I asked her to leave the next day. This got back to my first girl who had missed out on every peso that night due to her bad behaviour. Poetic justice wouldn't u say?
Have fun.
Bill Buxton
11-18-06, 00:59
The words KURIPOT AND KURIMAW are used to describe cheep tippers here amoung the girls.The girls here live off half the amount paid to the bar the next day after they do the job with the customer.They receive half the cost of the ladies drink when you buy one.When you bf the girl tell her you tip on performance and the better the job the better the tip.The reason here some are critical of the tipping practice are they in fact are cheep charlies.
I have had sex with many here.some were rated by me as average and some unreal.All were good.I have never had bad sex but bad experances with the monkeybusiness that went along with the nightly relationship.
When you go in a bar you are rated beleave it or not.These people know each of us not only by name and country but by TIP.Take out a waitress and sit in a restaurant and tell her to point out the cheep charlies,SHE CAN AND WILL DO IT!! They are working for money not for fun.Do you tip at home?? I do and a dollar here could be half a nites wages for a waitress.They earn only 130-140-p per night to dance for 10-12 hours.And if you think this is big money you must think again.
When was the last time at home you gave a waitress half a nites wages in a single tip.I myself have never done that.AFTER HAVING SEX WITH MANY BAR GIRLS sex is sex. The act is just an act of physical pleasure and not a love dance.You can rate them on ability and skill if you want, but it is what it is.Every gal here is wonderful in her own way.What seperates the good from the bad in my eyes is, Will she do what she said she will do when she gets to the hotel.Will she try and tell you a sad bulshit story hoping you will give her money five minutes after the door shuts behind her?? Will she tell you about the sick mom or dad and the sister or grandparent that just fell from the coconut tree hoping you will give her money?Thats what makes a good one or a bad one in my eyes.Will she have enough brains to keep her cell phone in her bag when you just paid her salery?Or will she be texting others while she is sitting with you?The good gal gives you 100% of her attention and puts the phone away!!!!
Not the boom boom.But the amount of respect they show you when you are giving them 100% in return.I am sure it matters little to the guy staying here on a two or three week vacation but when you stay many months it does matter in my opinion.
Please remember these are poor people trying to live,We are all capable of giving a dollar to all that need it.Giving a small gift to those who need it more than we do.So if you think fifety pesos is a lot of money you have stayed here too long!!!!!!!!
As for the thought of giving 1000-p being to much to tip,give what you want.I dont care and plese dont say I am makig things bad for you.Pay what you want who cares.After all I am surely not gonna be the one without a chair when the music stops.I will not be the guy asking why the service is bad. Because I am the one getting all the service because I give a small token at the end of the job.Use your head! why do you think things are so different when you get here.Yes they are different in many ways,but things are cheep and when any guy can make a difference in a persons life with a dollar or two why not do it.
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYBODY HAS ONE.
B.B...
I come to AC every other year or so. None of the girls, except Gemma, were still in town.
Since I am not a regular, none of the girls know me, and my tipping practice is unknown. I usually pull a girl from different bars on different nights.
Since I am not a regular, if I receive the standard service, why should I tip? I am not a repeat customer. I do not give a flying fuckie what they say about me the next day "among the girls." P.S. I probably talk about the girls too.
If I were to give the girls tips, they would expect a tip every time for standard service. That would be bad, go get them to expect tip money every time.
Actually, I am doing you regular guys a favor, by lowering the girls' expectations for tips!
...Will she have enough brains to keep her cell phone in her bag when you just paid her salery?Or will she be texting others while she is sitting with you?The good gal gives you 100% of her attention and puts the phone away!!!!
Please remember these are poor people trying to live,We are all capable of giving a dollar to all that need it.Giving a small gift to those who need it more than we do.So if you think fifety pesos is a lot of money you have stayed here too long!!!!!!!!
As for the thought of giving 1000-p being to much to tip,give what you want.I dont care and plese dont say I am makig things bad for you.Pay what you want who cares. ...but things are cheep and when any guy can make a difference in a persons life with a dollar or two why not do it.
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYBODY HAS ONE.
B.B...Whenever the cell phone comes out, my wallet goes back in my pocket. Have you ever had an employee pull out their cellphone when you were having a meeting with them and trying to explain something work related? Thank you.
A gift given to someone who is undeserving is inappropriate. Imagine Santa Claus giving toys and presents to the bad boys who deserve a lump of coal in their stocking. It makes the girls thiefs to get something they do not deserve, out of pity or simpathy. Why not give them an extra boom boom and let them earn more money!
Pay that follows non-performance mocks the system and the girls will lose respect for you as well as for their jobs and themselves!
The journey to the ''Front'' line
Start the journey from Europe, France. Quite shitty airport, not very functional, in a way reminds me of Manila Airport, strange.
Arrived in Singapore and eagerly expecting to taste the nightlife. Major disappointment: Orchad Towers is nothing, just several bars with overpriced drinks and aggressive girls, or well, not really girls as it seems that most of the "female" population is made of ladyboys. In Ipanema bar for example there was so dark that someone hardly could distinguish a moanger from a ladyboy. In Romeo, 90 % were ladyboys. Simply nothing interesting and did I say expensive? Back in Geylang, my base, again, nothing special, except for several Chinese freelances with mediocre looks. One extra reason to appreciate AC with its population, cheapness and delights.
Took Tiger Airways to Clark and I am writing these first sentences from the plane. Tiger Airways has two flights a day to Clark and the service is great: new A320 planes with stylish interior. Now I am expecting my landing in Clark and my first review of the "front".
So here I arrive in AC, at 3, 15 sharp. Everything goes well, out of the airport in 10 min and meeting my driver from Central Park hotel. The car was rather a mini van but who cares (300 for a 15 min drive). The weather is hot, with light chances of showers.
Central Park hotel is OK but not more. Quite comfy but not like Swiss Chalet which is actually a bit cheaper.
First night
After a quick shower I went out for a quick inspection of the front. Went straight to Niffties on the Perimeter. Nothing, nothing there, a few bad looking girls, bad atmosphere, so no more famous Nifities. Nero"s my flag bearer during the last trip now looks deserted, no more beauties. Sad. Blue Nile looks worst than ever, still some cute girls but no stunners. Somehow I think all the bars were with very few customers and some of them did not open at all (Cambodia for example). Still, the main hotels have fully booked rooms which mean that there are plenty of tourists.
God bars: Las Vegas has some new arrivals, beautiful. And Heartbreakers started to have business rolling. Some beauties there and glitzy atmosphere.
Now about my shopping/hunting. I am no longer a new guy in AC but still I had that feeling of a boy in the candy shop. I made rounds in bars waiting for the best pray. I was kind of tired and jetlagged and I was pending between a "*****" experience and a nice romance.
The *****
Stopped in Heartbreakers, and dragged to by table a better looking dancer with sexy body etc. I made my mind when she told me that she is actually a Friday single performer with smoking from the pussy and pussy bottle lifting. She is from Cebu heh, only two week in AC but tons of Cebu experience I think. She is 21 with fantastic body but marked face (acne or something). Anyway, she promised me a private show, and I barfined her. But still it was kind of early. So decided to pay the barfine and continue the bar hopping a bit. I told her that she can wait for an hours and get the ladydrinks from other customers if she wants. Yeah, I was in a "democratic" mood. She happily accepted.
Went o Neros, my former headquarters, stayed there for something like 45 minutes, nothing interesting and so I decided to go to my room with my barfined girl. As I approached Heartbreakers I kind of saw my barfined girl with another moanger going out. I wasn't sure but I recognized her from her back tattoo. Well, well, as I went into the Heartbreaker the mamasan quickly came to me and told me that some "emergency" has happened with my barfined girl and she will be back later. Hahahahhaha, can you imagine guys? That ***** decided to double barfine in that night and the ***** mamasan has agreed. I won't said anything but I was nice with that girl, sometimes being nice is just not worth. I told the wore mamasan that I just saw that ***** and I quickly asked for the barfine back which she executed immediately. I was not angry but greatly surprised as this never happened to me before.
No ***** experience so I changed into romantic mode.
The Romance
Went to Las Vegas when I eyed before I nice sweet thing. Asked her to me table, she is also from Cebu, 20 yo and only since two days working in AC, a real "cherry". Also she asked for an ice tea instead of a Margherrita which was a very good sign of a ''good girl". Yes guy, the *****s usually ask for Margheritta (200 P). She is model looking, tall, long hair, angel face. Wow. Fresh stuff and sweet. I immediately forgot the former episode.
Asked her if she barfine, she said yes. I was no longer in the mood to negotiate or to fix my terms (all night, blow job etc). This girl was too special. And I was in a romance mood. Off we went to my place. Totally GFE, had shower together, very sensual. After that lots of cuddling and petting and finally first round. I was under high pressure and so I finished quickly in 3 min or so, probably due to her fantastically warm pussy as well. Five minutes after we went for the second round which lasted for about 20 min, totally GFE, totally natural. Wow, I felt caught in the stream of romance and I already started to make plans for a Boracay escape with my new beauty queen. My rule is one night one girl with no emotional involvement but sometimes I might step aside, as so I was in the way to go this time. Well. After the second round the bullshit started: she has to go to Manila this early morning at 4 a clock AM in order to join her family for Halloween (they take in seriously on the Mexican tradition) and she has to go. She asked if it's OK to me, if I agree etc. I told her that I think it's a bullshit but she is free to go (my Romance mood was quickly vanishing but it was no reason to force her to stay). There is 5% chance that she really had to go somewhere but I suspect that she was targeting another barfine (at 3am slim chances though). What can I say. I could have asked her since the beginning to stay all night but I avoided. So for now on this is the rule. As a matter of fact after two rounds I just wanted to sleep but it was an ego thing. Anyway, it was a nice experience and a good learning thing. She looked gorgeous with that long hair. Yummy.
I was also glad for escaping from a romantic trap!
Conclusion: some of the AC girls are real *****s who do not deserve respect, other are ***** into being but still sweet while other are just sweet honest girls (their number is falling though).
So I ended my first night in AC with a lot of facts.
Night two- Bar hoping and mastur. Well not really!
Thursday the bars got busy, lots of customers including some young and horny (I guess) US military guys.
The Massage
But first I will describe my day time activities: First I was looking for a massage, just a nice relaxing massage. I went to a place called "Bunny" or something like this. They were advertising 500p for 1 hour which doesn't sound bad. The massage girls were nothing special, but I just wanted a massage. Went in and the massage started, not bad, felt relaxed. The only shortcoming is that the service lasted only for about 35 min. After that I was left to "relax" alone and the girl was watching TV. I told her that this kind of relaxation I can have in my hotel room for free and she just smiled candidly. I repeated that the agreement was for an hour and again, no explanation, only smiles. Then a shouted that the girls in the bars are shagging their assess for 8-10 hours for 150 p and they got 500p for half an hour (which is the price you can have in some EU countries). They got mad then and told me that I should not mix their "legitimate" business with the bar business and the girls working there (yeah, if they would have the looks they will be there, in the bars). Anyway, I throw my 500 p and went out. Felt relaxed but I don't like to be cheated. I like the massage and I will be looking for some other place in the area (which one I don't know yet).
Went to SM Mall which is very nice, top standard. You can do a nice shopping there. Then I just realized that the money we are throwing there in the bars is not quite peanuts. For 600 p a bought a bag full of toiletries, a nice T shirts (polo) costs 150 p, and a jacket can be 500-1000 etc.
Went after that for a sleep in my room.
Further bar hopping
Woke up around seven totally refreshed and ready for action. Started the barhopping with Las Vegas, Heartbreakers, Blue Nile, etcetc. The bars where packed with customers.
I should underline the girls in Agasya just next to Heartbreakers. They have a model show and the girls really look like models (most of them), BF 1500P. This bar is clearly catering for Koreans and Japanese. The staff is bowing etc. Relaxed atmosphere, no push for LDs, the staff knows that most of their girls will get BF anyway. It was funny to see how the girls are leaving in groups with groups of Koreans (the Japanese are more reserved or shy). Seen some real stunners there including a models who I met in the course of my last trip. Model, yeah, bar totally starfish I felt sorry for the guy who happily took her last night. After all, it depends on what you are looking for, if your ego demands a model, so be it!
One further remark, during my flight with Singapore Airlines I was looking to those gorgeous flight attendants and now I realized that if you will dress some of the girls from AC they will look quite the same or better (nice tasty dress, nice hair style etc). So AC can make your dreams and fantasies come true.
Went to Las Vegas, to see my last bar fined girl, she looked nice, my heart was strangely pumping of fear that some customer will take her. Yes, I did not want to BF her again but I did not want to see her taken be someone else either. The wild beast inside me was screaming that "that girl is MINE"! Yeah, got lucky, I haven't actually seen her being bairfined that night although she got a couple of LDs from customers but refused to go further. Finally a broke up and decided to pay her a LD (and make to BF her. Yeah, weak.) but strangely she refused my LD. Do you hear this? She refused my LD. So AC can offer you "real world" feelings (deception, jealousy, hunting, love crush, ego crush etc). Ac offers more than some "shopping". I went out nervous and started browsing the bars again. BY midnight most of the better crop was gone, succeeded nevertheless to find a nice Asian looking girl in Heartbreakers. This time I was dome a sort of an interview and asked for the "menu" in advance (all night, BJ, massage). She agreed with everything and off we went. Well, the girl kept strictly her promise and I ended up with a nice relaxing experience. It was not really a GFE experience but not mechanical either (a friends like stuff). I sent her of in the morning with 170 p tip. After that I observed that she forgot her rings in my room and so I will have to shortly met hear again.
Tonight is Friday and the girls know that it's business time! Somehow I enjoy the bar hoping more than the actual penetration except for the one with special girls. Yeah ''the journey'' in itself it's nice.
The Doll House girl Friday night
Started the barhopping early. Again, Las Vegas, Agasya, Hearbreakers, Blue Nile. Nothing that special. I noticed that Asian doll looking girl from Blue Nile. I had a round with her last March and since then I see her being barfined every night (mostly Koreans and Japanese). Since me she might have added a couple of hundred guys under her belt. And she has that innocent look.
Finally I went to Dollhouse, the bar which I don"t like but I just gave it a try. My eyes have fallen on that nice legged and very slim 19 yo girl from Leity island. One word of advice: the bar fine in DH is 1300 and the LD is 250 p (yeah, an SM light is that much).
Took that girl, went to my room, and nothing that special has happened. The girl was clearly a beginner. She tried BJ but couldn't handle, no breath, spit etc. For her legs she can be a model in other "models" advertising bars like Agasya or Las Vegas.
Had a round with her, after that she had an attempt to leave (bad bad point for her) but finally she stayed till late morning (another round). I gave her 60 p for trike (no change) and I also took her to breakfast at Kokomos.
"Dust in the Wind" and "Diamonds in the Rough" Forth Day/Night
Just after Lunch I felt the need for a massage. After the bad experience at Bunny I thought "how about having a massage at Niffties Bar? " Went there and had the best massage in a long time.
Treated like a Sultan
Yes, a sultan, lying on the sofa and being massaged by no less than 5 girls. After I told the girl that I wanted a massage they all started the job without any LD or anything. After about 15 min, I felt kind of obligation and I bought a LD to the most skilled one (who turned out to have worked in a Massage Center before). She continued to do a full body massage right there in the bar assisted by other two girls. Meanwhile I relaxed and enjoying looking at the other customers in the bar. The massage lasted for about 40 minutes and cost me only two LDs.
In the same Perimeter bar area I suddenly seen that quiet girl, sitting in a corner. Looked at her closer and yes, she was a beauty. A beauty in the Perimeter bars. It can happen. New girl from Manila. Cherry. 19 years old. Long legs, nice shaped body. Exquisite material. And she lied there in a dark corner. Hehe, lucky me. I like discoveries! She had a Malayan kind of face. Dress her accordingly and you will have those exquisite Malaysian Airlines flight attended you always wanted to fuck!
Paid the discounted Perimeter area BF and off we went. Overall it was a nice experience, quiet, GFE, etc. As for the sex we are talking here only about bbj of course.
I dined and barhopped her and she quietly left in the morning. I was her first BF and I barhopped her just in order to show her that there are other bigger bars in the area and she might "advance" from the Perimeter.
Had sad feelings in the morning, but this are part of the game. Unfortunately. Gave her a tip etc?
I doubt I will take her again as I smell a "Romance trap".
Typical Saturday night on the frontline with the best (looking) girls taken by 11.
The ''Champagne'' Girl. Fifth Night.
I was quite skeptical about my shopping/hunting luck that evening. I started the barhopping early since the after-noon. Had a lapdance in Lolipops with an 18 yo cutie. I had in mid to take her but I thought it's too early.
Usually, by the 5th girl, my sex drive is going low; I am not longer that horney and start looking for something "special". Another option is just to enjoy barhopping.
Done the early browsing of the bars. Nothing to attract me on the spot. Thought it would be better to have one night off in order to recharge my batteries/balls.
Stopped in Champagne where I saw this very slim, Chinese looking girl, 19b yo. Bought her a drink, she is from the area (Pampanga) and since three weeks in the bar (new). She is not very active or talkative, but the bar started to fill with Japanese and I thought that if I release her in the next 5 min she will be gone. With some reluctance I took her with me.
I have to say that she was the kind of raw country girl, very sweet, innocent looking. But quite rough around the edges: I had to wash her and to give her a spare toothbrush. From the state of her pubic hair I could say that she is rather new in the business. She is also having some problems with English which is quite rare. In rest, incredibly sweet and natural.
Jumped into the bad, not really horny but ready for a ride. She is quite unresponsive. After some hard work from my part she is still dry, a bit wet then dry again. She told me it hurts so I sopped. And just hold her in my arms etc. Which was nice. Decided to have an early sleep and let her relax.
In the morning at 8 a clock sharp she woke up and was ready to go. What? No gratitude for being nice with her? Nothing? Well, by this time I am no longer surprised. Its good to be nice and we all should be like this but most of these girls actually don't care. If she would have stayed till late afternoon I would have appreciated her gesture and she would have ended up with a nice tip but at 8 a clock she showed no respect.
The night was ok, but still, I am waiting for that appreciation of that fact that I was nice. Treated her (and others) with full respect like on the spot girlfriend. And no proper feed back. (and yes, in terms of age I can be considered a kid among the tourist population in AC).
Finally she asked (yeah, asked! ) for a tip for the trike and I told her that considering her attitude she dos not deserve anything but nevertheless I gave her 20p (for the trike strictly). I am not a cheap Charlie and there were girls who got 500 p tips even without any action, but they were showing consideration and more respect.
Another thing about the money issue. At 18 or 19 they all expect to have lots of money. At that age! How many guys in the First World had lots of money in their high school or student years? I myself I did my studies hard with less than 3 UDS/day (less than a lady drink). Do the Filipina understand this? Probably not.
Looked at her pictures taken yesterday night (for my record). She is beautiful. Shall I focus on less good looking girls? Maybe but I can bet that there would be no difference. Shopping/hunting in AC it's a hit and miss and the good part is that considering the affordable prices I don't mind missing the target sometimes.
6th night. Barhopping and Sleeping Alone
Started in the after-noon in Lolipops. Had drink, and paid a lady drink to a cutie. I decided that by all means I will look for something more special, I was not really horney. Otherwise I will be just enjoying my time barhopping and having a good sleep alone.
Started the evening session around 7 a clock. One hour before I saw a nice girls walking on the Fields. I called her but she avoided me and after that she looked back with a smile and discreetly invited me to follow her. Long legs, long hair. Finally she entered the Typhoon bar and made sure I observed where to find her. The bar was not yet opened and so I decided to come a bit latter. Well, by 7pm when I arrived in the bar she was already taken. I am not sure if I would have taken her that early but whatever.
The same has happened with the rest of the cream of the crop by 9 pm. All barfined and booked. I stayed a bit in Agasya lurking towards the models. Pointed one stunner and asked her for a lady drink. The mama san told me that she has been already chosen by someone in the back (Korean) and I should wait in line. ! Whaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttt? ME? NO WAY!
Did further browsing in Las Vegas. Very friendly atmosphere, the girls started to know me. Paid a LD to a waitress cutie (not necessarily intending to barfine her) and she finally told me that she is already barfined, bad for my ego heh. In exchange she promised to hook me up with her cousin who arrives tomorrow (nice in the picture). There is that long legged and Asian looking waitress in the Heartbreakers. I told her that I will be back in the bar for her in half an hour but once I arrived she was already dressed up/barfined. I know that the beauties are shagged every night but I don't like to see it.
Did some further browsing, drinking, socializing. It was getting late. Had some talks with the cultural dancers from Blue Nile which were taking there dinner at the cheap karaoke restaurant nearby.
Of course, I could have still plenty of choices to barfine but I just felt the need to have an undisturbed sleep. Another wake up early morning to help the aunty, or sudden telephone would have just drove me mad and put me in a spanking or sado-maso mood. Therefore I just had a nice sleep.
I simply enjoyed the pure barhopping. What excite me are the multiple possibilities and choices I have in front of my eyes. I avoid barfining early and barhopping with my barfined girl for the simple fact that I always see better looking girls. Better keep my choices open.
This evening I had my balls refilled and so I will probably act accordingly.
7th Night on the "Front Line"
Fresh from a lonely but very good sleep. Breakfast at Kokomos. Lunch at SM Mall. Very good and diverse food (choose fish soup and cat fish barbeque). I was in the mood for a massage after that. Had that massage done by my girls at Niffities. In the same Perimeter area I paid a visit to my unpolished diamond discovered a couple of days ago. I could reconfirm once again her beauty. I could not resist to not taking her with me for that after-noon. I could have used of course one of the short term rooms but no, not with her. So I took her to my room for the after-noon which finally became the whole night.
The ultimate sensual experience
Finally I have discovered the real sensuality of Asian women. Big eyes, silent, hands and skin soft like silk, she could read all my wished straight form the eyes. She looked like coming straight from the advertisements from Traveling Agencies specialized in exotic holidays. I had a nice tender massage, we slept and done all the rest in a natural succession.
I took her because I wanted her to relax me and she did it very successfully. In the evening I was puzzled, shall I send her back to the bar (I paid all night barfine) or shall I stay with her all night. Finally I decided to keep her in my room while I do my routine barhopping. She agreed and dressed me nicely in order to be successful with the other girls and off I went for barhopping without the stress of fining someone that night (my cat was silently waiting for me in my room).
UFO in Angeles
In the dusty Real Street, in front of Swiss Chalet was parked a. Red Ferrari. Looks like a surreal creature on the street of Angeles. A strange UFO.
Two nights ago in the same place I have seen a new Jaguar but I thought I am too drunk.
What is with these Jaguars and Ferraris here?
Other strange things in AC
There are two huge hotels on the rise. They seem to be world class and soon the whole coziness of AC will be gone. More comfort, more money higher prices. Who knows. Maybe the Pinatubo Volcano will give the final solution.
I have also observed an increased number of half white kinds and also an increased number of white moangers in their 60's proudly walking hand in hand with preggy Filipina.
Barhopping
Went straight to Las Vegas. Model show, very nice and sexy. They have models like in Agasya but without the same stiff attitude and stiff atmosphere. The spotlight dancers showed interest in me but I was only on a searching mission and I wasn't sure if my cat back in the room will enjoy a threesome.
Finally made peace with the girl I took first night. She looked more beautiful than ever and also full of temper (she refused several times my LDs just to show me that she is a piece of jewel). I am going to meet her in about an hour for Lunch and. Maybe more. Passed through Heartbreakers. The waitress I am targeting was already dressed for barfine and showed me her brazenly ass.
Went to Blue Nile. Nothing special, just the usual ''cultural" dancers. Had a relaxed beer and joked with waitresses. Next stop was Nero's which seems to recover in terms of quality. Some nice foxes there are also some nice shows including a "Blow Job" contest (it's about cocktails not else).
Finally, around 11, 30 went back to my room and my cat who was keeping my bed warm.
7th day/night. The failed Romantic Lunch
Had a relaxed morning with coffee at Kokomos, watching the girls returning home from the various places they were spending the night. Had fixed my "date" Lunch at 1 PM. Went there 15 minutes earlier in an old fashioned punctual way. 1 a clock comes and she is not yet appearing. At 1, 25 finally she shows at the horizon together with her cousin and older lady which and understood that is her mom. The other two grinned at me and my "date" comes to me. No excuses for being late, nothing. I invite her at the table and asked what she would like to eat/drink. In this time the other two persons kept watching us from the distance. I told to the girl that she can tell her mom and her cousin to go and meet her later. She asked if her mom can join us and I said that I have nothing against but I would rather prefer to invite her mom in a more "respectable" place than Kokomos with all the moangers and working girls around. She goes to tell to her mom and cousin that they can go now. She returns in 5 min and we have a couple of min chat and after that I herd that her relatives are still waiting for her around the corner. I told her once again that there is no reason for her elatives to wait for her under the hot sun. She goes to tell them to go home and. I waited for her to come back. And waited. And waited for some 45 min with the Lunch on the table. She never showed up again. Strange. Just strange behavior. While I kept perfectly polite. And just wanted to treat the girl normally. Like a date. Well it seems that some girls just don't give a shit no matter how you treat them. Well, later I heard that the girls is actually a lesbian and she hates the men and the bars. Still, she could have been polite. The girl was off duty for the next couple of days as I have not seen her in the bar. Latter when she appeared I did not talk with her. I hope she will soon find out the difference between someone rude and someone polite.
Sentimental complication and human weakness
After the after-noon failure I decided to visit the Perimeter area, to see my girl there more exactly. I proposed myself to avoid that place and move forward but my legs leaded me there that after-noon. I knew what to expect in those bars and at that time, when the Perimeter bars are fully working. Nevertheless I lost my cool temper when "my girl" of the last two days was busy with a customer, any "busy" in the Perimeter area means more than drinks, hugs and kisses. In fact, to be more exact, she was just assisting one of her older colleagues who appeared to give an on the spot blow job to the guy (I avoided having a closer look). Well, I tried to keep cool but my blood started pumping into my veins and a tear burst from my eyes which obliged me to quickly put my sunglasses. These are the costs of letting yourself involved a bit in AC, I knew, I was aware and still the weak human nature prevailed. I had a quick beer and until I finished it "my girl" silently came to me. There were no words exchanged but she understood the huge gap created. She automatically tried to treat my like a customer stroking my cock but I stopped her with a firm gesture. I stood with her for several minutes without a word. I cannot forget the greens of satisfaction from the other older working girls. They must have passed through this before; in their "career". I whispered to the girl that it is time I am going to that bar. That she should take care. That she is beautiful and precious and, if is to work in a bar she should at least find another, higher class, bar. After that I discreetly passed her a 500 peso bill for good bye and off I went. And I will not visit the Perimeter area for a while. Yes, its fun and cozy but also very rough and certainly not the place for innocent 18 or 19 yo girls. If it happens to like a girl working there you start to have a slightly different vision.
I went on foot all the way to the Fields, lost in my thoughts. That evening I was really pissed off.
Went to the ATM, grabbed some cash and I was ready to get drunk. Had a couple of gin tonics in Heartbreakers and Las Vegas. For some reason the gin tonic in Las Vegas had a kind of poison taste. In one of the bigger bars from the area I had the surprise of meeting a former barfine of mine who now is a "top model". Untouchable as she now has a boyfriend (read it "sponsor"). It's nice to know that such a fine piece has passed through your bed once. She was nice a caring to me and I enjoyed the envious looks of the other guys. Hehe.
In La Pasha I met the sister of another previous barfine of mine which was a real blast. I asked where is her sister. She was off duty upstairs. Her sister called her. She shortly appeared but refused even the lady drink saying that is her day off and she is not working: so you see? Great attitude. Making a clear distinction between the two sides of her live irrespective of the money she might have got. I like girls who respect themselves.
Went again to Las Vegas where one of the waitresses was expecting me to introduce to me her sister, a long legged thing from Manila, well traveled and apparently more educated. She also had a bit of "model" past as well as bar girl past (Doll House). She is trying to find work in a call center in Hong Kong. She told me that that evening she is going to Manila to catch a flight two Hong Kong and she will be back in three days. Well, I have my doubts that a young 19 yo Filipina can afford to do this kind of "jet setting". At best she might be looking for some extra cash in Wan Chai. Anyway, that evening I observed on her stomach a sign of what might have been a cesarean birth and I erased her from my list (out of respect, usually don't like to get involved with mothers).
It was already very late and the bars started to close. I went to the karaoke place next to Blue Nile and fed a couple of bargirls on their way home. Listen to some of their stories. Barfines, cheap Charlies etc went to bed after that, a nice sleep alone.
8th days/night. The exact succession of the days is no longer respected.
The World of AC street vendors
After a typical morning, in the after-noon I went to the cheap eating place close to Blue Nile where I met a bunch of street vendors enjoying themselves. One of them is more friendly since I bought a ball pen from him and once I invited him for a beer (he also asked for an extra hamburger which quickly made my generous mood vanish back then). This guy invited me to their table and we started talking. He introduced me to his brother, nephew etc. Thus I found that these guys are old timers here doing the Fields street for 15-25 years. Everyday. And not everyone has the privilege to work on the Fields. The guys started to reveal me his secret cheap BJ places (I politely declined even to hear about that) and asked if I need a cheap room (1000p/month) he is the one to arrange it for me any time. We also chatted about tourists, their attitude, girls etc. Thus I got a bit of the local taste. It was funny to see the looks of the bar girls on their way to work staring at me in the middle of the most pestilential street vendors having a good time with beers.
In another night, I was really pissed off with the bars and thus I improvised an on the spot mega party after 3 AM with the philipino youngsters from the area. Some 2o people joined the open air karaoke party right across the tourist police. I bought some 30 read horse beers and some food everything for less that 1000 p and we sang all night trying the nerves of the Blue Nile Executive Hotel stuff and their customers.
The lesbian experience
One of the nights I met a former barfine of mine in one of the middle sized bars from the Fields. She is a long legged and beautiful well know lesbian girl (she also enjoy male company from time to time). She was out of the bar scene for several month as she was steady barfined and after that sponsored buy an Australian ''boyfriend'' (fat ugly dominatrix lesbian women). She stared telling me the good and the bad of that relationship, whow was terrorized in the beginning and how after that she hooked the sensitive point of the Ozzy gal and got some steady monthly sponsorship (we are taking of thousands of dollars in total here). She is a smart girl as she opened her own sari sari store back in her province. However he jealousy and strings of the Ozzy women became intolerable and so she had to quit the relationship and return to the bar (yeah, the only way she know to make easier money) She was not planning to go out with anyone but I was an exception as she knew me in advance. Thus, I barfined her, brought her to my room, had further friendly chatting and a looong and meticulous BJ with swallowing. This girl really knew how to do it (she got a friendly 500 tip). When I took her out of the bar I got funny looks from the other girls who thought that I don't know what I am taking. Three hours latter, when the girl left and I was back on the Fields for some food all the girls laughed thinking that I got screwed without knowing that my ''boys'' are happily swimming in the girl's stomach. The lesbian also promised me a two lesbian show in my room any time I want. In the next days though I got sudden phone calls from her in the morning asking if I am interested in a friendly short term with her. I accepted once, and she did her best BJ plus an oil massage for 500 (I gave the money in advance and I said that I am not expecting everything but the girl did not like to feel obliged to me and thus produced her best service). In the next two days right in the morning she was at the hotel reception for other short terms but I was already with another girl. I cannot understand, this girl is having her own small business and still. Even before I left she was asking me to ''borrow'' her 500 for the dentist. Just to keep the relation/source of information I left her 300 p in an envelope at the hotel reception (I expected an e-mail with thanks for her but nothing until now.). She is very nice looking, with long legs and long silky hair. Sometimes people are competing to bf her. Since ''off duty'' she got a little fat but still nice looking.
The lesbianism phenomenon in AC is due to the fact that so many girls leave together in one place, have shower together, dance together every night in bikini the normal sex is seen as a business and the male population in AC is not made out of ''Brad Pitts'' but older, fat and relatively ugly tourists. The night passed smoothly with two sessions. In the morning we made some photos and I started to pack my things as I had to check out and go to the airport. The girl assisted me with packing my clothes in a nice order. Gave her my left cosmetics as well as 1000p as a gift not tip (so I told her).
The ''Models Blast''
In the last days of my November ''mission'' I became very fussy and pretentious. I started to look beyond the common physical features the AC tourist is looking for. I start too look for interesting and beautiful eyes, longs legs, nice hair, nice personality, feet etc. So almost naturally I found myself hunting the ''model'' type, the ones on display and especially the ''hidden'' ones. There are three bars in AC offering ''model'' shows. In one of these bars during my last trip in July I could have had two girls who are now super starts there. Back them I was thinking about taking them both but finally I took only one because the other had a rather glacial attitude. Several months later both are unavailable, being kept in golden cages by they boyfriends/sponsors. Well I should say that these guys made the right choice as the girls are not cheating. I verified them and they were declining even having a private Lunch. They still take LDs but that's all. They were declined even the advances of the young US army guys. Nice girls and I hope they virtue will pay off somehow. In another ''models'' bar I targeted a long legged one with fantastic expressive eyes. In this bar the contact is made through an intermediary which can be mamas an or the owner (Korean, Korean catering bar) but I broke their stupid rules and went straight to the girl asking if she would join me for a drink. She agreed and we start talking. I told her some flattering bullshit and I asked if she would go ''out '' with me. She said ''bar hopping only''. What? No. Not with me. I am an ''all night guy'' I told her. She hesitated a moment. And after that went to her boss to ask something. She returned telling me that she cannot stay all night, ''menstruation'' etc but she actually let me know that her boss does not agree. She might have been booked for Asians or maybe, only maybe she is actually only barhopping with the customers (she has an entire family in this bar, her sister as a spot dancer and an cousin working as mamasan). Got a bit disappointed but I also enjoyed talking to her. Yes. Flirting and talking, checking the ''water'' is also part of a game which I enjoy. She said that maybe she will be available for me next time but I made it clear that there is not going to be any next time for her. Although I was planning to see her again. (In that bar the LD is generally 200 p)
Soon after I thought that I am unlucky in my ''models'' hunt I met the blast of my trip: yes. A ''model in the rough''. I met her in this back street bar. It was her first night working as a waitress. Loooong legs, nice eyes, personality, smile. And relatively unspoiled. She is also on stand by for working as a model in another bar. But she doesn't like to expose her body. A long legged newbie to the bar world? . I waited no further. Eye contact. LD. Proposal. ''good guy here sweetie''. ''me interested in you as a person not on your body. '' blablabla. And of we went. The other waitresses greeted me with ''Have a nice bumbum! '' (only on AC heh! ). I took her slowly. Went to karaoke. A light dinner. Then back to my room, watch TV and look at the pictures. She is not very young (mid twenties) but quite shy, full of character and has a fantastic body. Soft and tender skin. Etc etc. She hates the Fields, exposing her body and the whole ''selling pussy'' thing. She worked several years ago only for a couple of days in a Fields bar when she met her ex boyfriend, an Asian who sponsored her for a while. And now she is heartbroken. Ufff. I don't really like ex-boyfriends stories but. When I heard that her ex is Asian I thought I will have the chance to show her what a real man is like. When we proceeded towards some physical approach she told me that she will try to imagine that I am her ex. What? . Unfortunately for her, that was impossible. And you all know why! The ''General'' in my pants claimed revenge and stood up for battle. And yes. She learned what a big think white cock means. I was like a wide bull (just to make sure I took for the first time a 1/3 of ''see vitamin'' pill and the effect was fantastic.). The ''general'' stand stiff until the next after-noon. The girl was surprised a begged for mercy. But no. She should remember me. It was fantastic both physically and mentally. Next day I decided to keep her with me. Also she did not tried to go home or any anything. Clearly a new girl in the business (moreover, when I took her out of the bar she asked the mamasan how much is the barfine. Go figure.).
The hidden side of the bargirl's life
After we had Lunch at Kokomos the girl invited me to visit her ''apartment'', not far from the Fields. Indeed, some 50 meters from the bottom of the Fields ''Avenue'', another world is unfolding. The third world. Behind a barbeque stall, passing through a miserable small court was the ''apartment'' the girls is sharing with other bar girls (waitresses). Although it was a strong sun outside, in the ''lobby'' was very dark, hot and humid. The darkness was a bit broken by a very pale neon light so after my eyes adjusted I could distinguish several faces and a dirty mattress placed right on the floor. Yes, there, on the floor, among the cockroaches the ''glitzy'' bargirls are sleeping and vegetating. The picture was completed by a couple of chairs, a table, bar clothes hanged all over on the walls, a small mirror and some wooden stairs leading upstairs were my girl had her ''room''. I was not curious to see her room, it might have better light but I understood that most of the girls prefer to sleep downstairs were is cooler. The whole picture was completed by a litter of small kids who were moving around like small rats. On a good note, the kids were cute, playful and look healthy. Of course, the kinds are all looking for ''daddy''. The girls and older women there looked absent to me after a short moment of surprise. I sat at the table and gave to one of them 100 p to buy ice cream for the kids. Some of the girls asked me if I can introduce them a man from my country. We chatted a little bit until my girl was changing her outfit. The place was dark, hot and dirty but I must say that it might have look much better with a bit of care from the girls. But they prefer to vegetate all day long, until dark when the start work and get metamorphosed in those gorgeous nightly creatures. It's kind of Cinderella story here.
My girl changed in more sexy clothes. I insisted she will wear a very short skirt to reveal her beautiful legs. She agreed very reluctantly. After that she wanted to arrange her hair and so we went out to look for a ''hair style'' place. We went to one of these small and dirty places operated by skillful bakalas/billiboys were the bar girls are arranging their hair and make up every night. These billiboys are a treasure of information regarding the bargirl's life. While they arrange the girl's hair whole stories and dramas are unfolded by the girls. Next time I will know where to look for information. The whole work on my girl lasted for about an hour and the price was 100 p. I paid 150 and chatted a bit. Lots of information. Meanwhile I was looking for an operational ATM as I was short of cash (in my last night). I told my girl that I do not have too much money and it's very difficult to find a working ATM. The girl said that it's OK and not to worry. Finally I succeeded to get 5000 p from one of the ATMs but I did not tell the girl.
After that we went to her bar to pay her barfine for another night and the girl asked the mamasan for her commission (two nights barfine). When we went outside she told me not to worry about the money when barhopping because now she has the money for both of us. Very sweet from her, I felt simply melting and for that gesture assured her an exceptional tip of 1000 p. E barhopped until midnight when we went back to my room. She revealed to me that she is a bit lesbian and she has another sister who is 100% lesbian. Well, I was no longer surprised as most of the bargirls seem to be at least partially lesbian.
All 15 days I stayed in Central Park Hotel which was quite satisfactory. Big rooms, nice furniture, large bed with real mattress, in room safe, and very strong water pressure (you can have shower massage). There is also cable and wireless internet, restaurant, good room service and a small pool plus a strategic location. All for 29 USD/night.
Paid for everything and took the large hotel van to Clark. The girl came with me for a sentimental good bye. It was a nice to have somebody following you to the airport.
At Clark passed relatively smoothly through formalities and started observing the passengers. Several obvious white and Asian tourists and many Filipina young ''tourists'' going for work in Malaysia or Singapore. The Tiger Airways flight to Singapore was smooth. Once in Singapore the queue at the immigration took a long time due to the Filipina who had to pass short interviews. I saw that beautiful but very bitchy women immigration officer who turned down a couple of Filipinas. Strangely, the immigration officer looked very similar with one of the girls I fucked a couple of days ago. Or I started to fantasize?
After a short stop over for a tea with mill at Raffles Hotel I took again a Singapore Airlines flight bound to a secret destination. I passed again Philippines islands, this time from 15. 000 meters altitude and, with a glass of wine in my hand, started thinking about the world down on Earth. Two parallel dimension. And that ''twilight zone'' which is AC. Felt asleep and the various parallel dimensions mixed up. Don't worry girls. I will be back!
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Michelangelo
11-18-06, 15:15
The continuous stories about cell phones being used just make me laugh! Why not ask to switch it off as soon as you reach the hotel? I have always done it and never got any negative reaction. Mobile phone off is the rule and it does not seem to bother them at all!
BB,
... "My cousin just txt me so I have to go" or "I have a family emergency etc" LOL... I will just head to the bar now and get my money back ... An other thing I insist on and agree on at the bar first, is that the girl’s cell phone is to be turned off the whole time she is with me. Most girls hate that but it creates a peaceful environment and gives them fewer excuses to leave ...
That's indeed an excellent piece of advice to deal with a rather common situation! Next time I'll do exactly the same!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Hi! Nice storys. hrm.
Thanks Pitender, Blastoff, Quasarus and everybody else!
Cash or Card in Angeles?
Skimming problems? I had that in Russia.
And one more q- best food or near the best in A?
Thanks for your time.
Hi! Nice storys. hrm.
Thanks Pitender, Blastoff, Quasarus and everybody else!
Cash or Card in Angeles?
Skimming problems? I had that in Russia.
And one more q- best food or near the best in A?
Thanks for your time.
There are several ATM's in Macarthur Ave just off Fields Ave. The best is the Bank Of the Philippines because it allows you up to 15,000 pesos withdrawal at a time. The others seem to allow a maximum of 4,000 pesos at a time. On weekends the ATM's often run out of money so draw money on a Thursday at the latest if possible. Cash is always king but there are risk to carrying large amounts of cash as you would know. I suggest a mixture of both.
Regarding restaurants in AC there are many. Brentos Deli close to Honey Ko's Bar is a great place to eat imported food as is C's Italian Restaurant in the same direction in Fields Ave. There is Salvatore’s above Road House Bar and many others in Fields Ave. Further down there are classy Japanese Restaurants. Of corse you can go to Macarthur ave and eat in the Casino, or Futunes Chinese Restaurant and many other great restaurant but taste is personal so try them out and make your choice.
Enjoy.
If the girl goes beyond what is expected, then I will tip. eg 3-4 pops in one night, a couple of long BBBJs and a photo session. If she fucks me twice and has dinner or breakfast with me then the transaction is complete. Ive never discussed a tip with a girl either. And I certainly have never tipped 1000P (actually I cant ever remember tipping 500P). My 'tip' can be in the form of another barfine the next day or two. Its easy for the girl if she stays with a guy for a couple of days.
If you're from the US and are used to tipping then do what you like. I live in Asia and in my country tipping is not the norm. It rarely happens anywhere (eg restaurants etc). Guys that come to Angeles for 2 weeks twice a year like to throw their money around including tips. To live in Asia and hand out big tips reduces your mongering frequency (unless you're loaded or dont like to save money). To use a phrase from your post, where in the world have you tipped a person twice their daily salary? Coz that is what a 1000P tip is to a girl you've barfined.
I will admit that if you plan to get more girls from the same bar then its a good idea to treat the girls really well and give them something extra. That extra can be in the form of a dinner or a barhop. Doesnt have to be cash for her to be happy and to strengthen your 'reputation' with the other girls. Actually, girls are more likely to go with you if their friends tell them that you have good personal hygiene and aren't rough with them in bed. Give her a bit of BFE and she will have good things to say about you.
Btw, if you think that your extra generous tip is going to 'change a girl's life' then think again. It wont. All it will do is to encourage her to waste some or all of it as its a quick windfall. These girls need to spend money in order to survive the months or years of time spent in AC. This can be in the form of load, alcohol, clothes, drugs or passed onto her trike driver boyfriend. After you say goodbye she will fuck an endless stream of guys as many nights as she can. They live day to day. Your tip is the same as 2 more barfines. If she gets your tip, great, more money. If she doesnt, she fucks 2 more guys. They are used to it. And if you think these AC girls have it tough, compare them to Asian brothel workers who service up to 10 guys a day.
The words KURIPOT AND KURIMAW are used to describe cheep tippers here amoung the girls.The girls here live off half the amount paid to the bar the next day after they do the job with the customer.They receive half the cost of the ladies drink when you buy one.When you bf the girl tell her you tip on performance and the better the job the better the tip.The reason here some are critical of the tipping practice are they in fact are cheep charlies.
I have had sex with many here.some were rated by me as average and some unreal.All were good.I have never had bad sex but bad experances with the monkeybusiness that went along with the nightly relationship.
When you go in a bar you are rated beleave it or not.These people know each of us not only by name and country but by TIP.Take out a waitress and sit in a restaurant and tell her to point out the cheep charlies,SHE CAN AND WILL DO IT!! They are working for money not for fun.Do you tip at home?? I do and a dollar here could be half a nites wages for a waitress.They earn only 130-140-p per night to dance for 10-12 hours.And if you think this is big money you must think again.
When was the last time at home you gave a waitress half a nites wages in a single tip.I myself have never done that.AFTER HAVING SEX WITH MANY BAR GIRLS sex is sex. The act is just an act of physical pleasure and not a love dance.You can rate them on ability and skill if you want, but it is what it is.Every gal here is wonderful in her own way.What seperates the good from the bad in my eyes is, Will she do what she said she will do when she gets to the hotel.Will she try and tell you a sad bulshit story hoping you will give her money five minutes after the door shuts behind her?? Will she tell you about the sick mom or dad and the sister or grandparent that just fell from the coconut tree hoping you will give her money?Thats what makes a good one or a bad one in my eyes.Will she have enough brains to keep her cell phone in her bag when you just paid her salery?Or will she be texting others while she is sitting with you?The good gal gives you 100% of her attention and puts the phone away!!!!
Not the boom boom.But the amount of respect they show you when you are giving them 100% in return.I am sure it matters little to the guy staying here on a two or three week vacation but when you stay many months it does matter in my opinion.
Please remember these are poor people trying to live,We are all capable of giving a dollar to all that need it.Giving a small gift to those who need it more than we do.So if you think fifety pesos is a lot of money you have stayed here too long!!!!!!!!
As for the thought of giving 1000-p being to much to tip,give what you want.I dont care and plese dont say I am makig things bad for you.Pay what you want who cares.After all I am surely not gonna be the one without a chair when the music stops.I will not be the guy asking why the service is bad. Because I am the one getting all the service because I give a small token at the end of the job.Use your head! why do you think things are so different when you get here.Yes they are different in many ways,but things are cheep and when any guy can make a difference in a persons life with a dollar or two why not do it.
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, EVERYBODY HAS ONE.
B.B...
I have never heard of an 'industry standard' in AC.
This is yet another scheme manufactured by the bar owners.
The reason you hear these things (and probably believe them) is because you are friends with some of these guys. Im not friends with any bar owners and I never want to be. I have no intention of deliberately knowing who any of them are either.
The whole premise behind paying the girls share to the bar in advance is a scam. It is not a guarantee of sex, and the mamasan will not necessarily give your money back if the girl doesnt keep to the deal. If the girl breaks any of the 'rules' which the bar enforces then they are severely fined. They will have this taken out of their earnings (and it can really add up, esp. for the newbies who aren't savvy to what can happen to them).
If the bar owners make punters believe that there is a tipping standard of 500+ Pesos then the girls will be much happier with their jobs and the owner wont have to provide anything to achieve this result. Keeping 600P for a girl's EWR is bullshit anyway as its the same price if its 1 minute to closing time. Its no wonder that so many guys hook up with girls after hours.
When it comes to the tip, it also comes down to what you look like. If you consider AC girls are beautiful then you're being generous. Sure there are some hotties but not many. As I keep myself in very good shape I dont feel like the girls experience much hardship by going with me. An overweight 50 year old guy with bad teeth might be expected to give more to get the same service. No one should ever feel oblidged to tip a girl regardless of service. If she performs better than average then yeah give her a little. But 1000P tips are ridiculous. And Field Ave barfines are worth around $26. Add 2 or 3 LDs and its $30.
I don't over tip the bar girls. There is an industry standard that is well known in AC and written about on this forum many times. If the girl stays over night and you enjoy yourself, the minimum tip is 500-peso and the maximum is 1,000 or what ever you feel she deserves and has earned.
I have dozens of bar girl friends who I am in regular contact with; I also have bar owner friends and Mammasan friends. I did not pull these figures or points out of a hat. I have gone to many friends bars before opening time and chatted to my friends as the got ready for work and hear them talking about the cheap Charlies who didn't give them a reasonable tip. This conversation happens everyday in every bar. The girls tell each other everything right down to the size of your dick! There are no secrets in the bar. Foreigners are ALL considered rich no matter if it is true or not. Tipping from 70 pesos to say 300 pesos for an over night service is considered an offence. If you don't believe me, ask the Mammasans or bar owners what the status quo of expectation is. Of coarse you are not obliged or forced to pay 1 peso if you don't want to but I feel if a beautiful girl has sex with you all night, the USD$20 bar fine which she gets to keep only $10 of, is just not enough for the effort and risk she puts herself in by going with customers. An additional $10 is a token of appreciation for work well done and a show of good will. Where else in the world with a beautiful, English speaking, passionate girl, sleep with you all night and take home only $20 including your 500 tip? Come on man, if money is that tight, mongering may be out of the reach of some.
That's all I have to say on the subject.
Happy mongering.
There are several ATM's in Macarthur Ave just off Fields Ave. The best is the Bank Of the Philippines because it allows you up to 15,000 pesos withdrawal at a time. The others seem to allow a maximum of 4,000 pesos at a time. On weekends the ATM's often run out of money so draw money on a Thursday at the latest if possible. Cash is always king but there are risk to carrying large amounts of cash as you would know. I suggest a mixture of both.
Regarding restaurants in AC there are many. Brentos Deli close to Honey Ko's Bar is a great place to eat imported food as is C's Italian Restaurant in the same direction in Fields Ave. There is Salvatore’s above Road House Bar and many others in Fields Ave. Further down there are classy Japanese Restaurants. Of corse you can go to Macarthur ave and eat in the Casino, or Futunes Chinese Restaurant and many other great restaurant but taste is personal so try them out and make your choice.
Enjoy.I was in A 95 then I had T-cheq. But things change and now Im gonna bring something else. Going in Dec.
Thanks again!
Solel
Asia Player said, "And Field Ave bar fines are worth around $26. Add 2 or 3 LDs and its $30."
That is still damn cheap on world standards for all night sex with a young woman."
Anywhere else in the world other than the Philippines, Cambodia and a few other places in Asia and the price jumps to USD$100 ST and $150 up to $1,000 LT. Countries like Russia, Ukraine etc and most others including Singapore, so I still think the Philippines is a GREAT deal for what you get, so if you feel like tipping 500 pesos or more, go right ahead. They need it much more then we do.
Cheers
Asia Player said, "And Field Ave bar fines are worth around $26. Add 2 or 3 LDs and its $30."
That is still damn cheap on world standards for all night sex with a young woman."
Anywhere else in the world other than the Philippines, Cambodia and a few other places in Asia and the price jumps to USD$100 ST and $150 up to $1,000 LT. I was bragging about the cost of getting my teeth cleaned and price of a haircut in the Phillipines to the guy at the counter of a US Post Office. He asked me how much it cost for the airplane ticket. $800. He won. I paid quite a bit for that cheap haircut.
The same with pussy! Its alot cheaper until you add the cost of the airplane ticket and 2 days in a small focker airplane sit next to 2 smelly assed flips and their screaming infants all the fricking night!
I would rather pay for sex in the US or closer to home with a max of 3 hours by plane.
I was bragging about the cost of getting my teeth cleaned and price of a haircut in the Phillipines to the guy at the counter of a US Post Office. He asked me how much it cost for the airplane ticket. $800. He won. I paid quite a bit for that cheap haircut.
The same with pussy! Its alot cheaper until you add the cost of the airplane ticket and 2 days in a small focker airplane sit next to 2 smelly assed flips and their screaming infants all the fricking night!
I would rather pay for sex in the US or closer to home with a max of 3 hours by plane.
To quote a dear expat friend of mine in Thailand:
"I pay for sex here (asia) coz free pussy in the US costs too much"
nuff said.
Spamhog
Lawn Gnome
11-20-06, 10:29
I came inside her 2 weeks after she finished her period. This is peak fertility time for a woman so the probabilities are hight that it is mine. Further more, for the few hundred bucks all up that I paid directly to doctors and drug stores, it gives me piece of mind even it isn't mine.Actually, two weeks after she started (not finished) her period would correspond with ovulation and, thus, truly be peak time, but I commend your sense of responsibility.
BTW, "Plan B" or "morning after" pills can be fabricated from the oral contraceptives that are available at any pharmacy. Of course, once she's pregnant, other measures are required.
I only compare the prices with other SE Asian countries and few places in Latin America (eg Colombia). Im not interested in travelling to anywhere in the world which considers $100US to be cheap. In Singapore you do not have to spend that much to get laid, you just have to go to the cheap, less accessible areas (which needs a bit of local knowledge). Anywhere in SE Asia you can fuck girls for $20 or less if you know where to look. In Cambodia you can have a girl for $5 and ive paid girls in the PI as little as 200P for a quickie. That was this year and this was their price, not mine.
Speak to any guy that has been going to AC during the 80s to mid-90s and they will tell you how bad it is now in comparison. The girls used to be way hotter, the prices were cheaper, the girls werent scammers and they gave great all night service with no bullshit excuses/runners. Whatever some other guy tips a girl wont affect me because Im not going to change and the girls will still be happy with me. Koreans and Japanese tip 2000-3000 sometimes. Yeah they will get more interest from the girls in certain bars but it doesnt matter as there are so many bars and girls to choose from. My posts are to try and help some newbie who is reading this forum for the first time. Some guys save for 6 months to visit Asia and spend a fortune relative to their disposable income. Each girl doesnt cost $30 for an American tourist. If their flight is $1000 and they're spending $100 a day for hotel, food and drinks and they barfine a girl each day (for a two week stay), then each girl is $200. Remember you aren't coming to AC for anything other than sex, because there is shit all else to do there.
Asia Player said, "And Field Ave bar fines are worth around $26. Add 2 or 3 LDs and its $30."
That is still damn cheap on world standards for all night sex with a young woman."
Anywhere else in the world other than the Philippines, Cambodia and a few other places in Asia and the price jumps to USD$100 ST and $150 up to $1,000 LT. Countries like Russia, Ukraine etc and most others including Singapore, so I still think the Philippines is a GREAT deal for what you get, so if you feel like tipping 500 pesos or more, go right ahead. They need it much more then we do.
Cheers
i originally posted this on a costa rica board, so i make a few references to cr spots for comparison. this portion of my trip report is the middle section after spending a week in pattaya. since i had never been to asia before, this report reflects alot of highlights, but also my mistakes. feel free to point out the spots where i screwed up as i am anxious to learn the scene and to get back to ac.
off to ac
i hadn't booked a car or hotel in the pi so i was a little scared when i arrived at the manila airport. i headed for the info desk and they seemed really friendly. i explained that i needed a ride and a room in ac. they said "no problem". then they called swagman hotel who just happened to have a shuttle there. i thought "what incredible luck! ". as it turns out, the shuttle only takes you to the manila swagman hotel. they had a shuttle coming in 5 hours to ac. so i decided to take a cab. it was too expensive. 3, 000 pesos ($60), but i paid because i wanted to start my night. on the way, he suggests the clarkton hotel which he says is right on fields rd. i agree. knowing it probably is a rip-off, but it is an easy place to stay for the first night. as it turns out, it is a complete dump. it is also expensive and far from fields rd. i was too lazy to change so i ended up staying my first 2 nights.
night 1
i started the night around 9: 30. i did a barhop and hit all the major go-gos. i was shocked at how many girls were in each one. i think some of the bigger ones had >100 girls. even buying lots of lady drinks, i was surprised how far my dollars went. the girls looked a lot younger than pattaya and there were very few tattoos. i was pretty happy with the shopping. there was about the same ratio of pretty to ugly girls as in thailand, but there were a lot more girls in each venue. i ended up at blue nile watching the huge stage show for a couple of hours. i got very friendly with the server girls. on the downside, i noticed that the dancers didn't really mingle so you were stuck with the less-attractive servers. i ended up talking for a long time with one less-attractive server named [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). but i noticed a "v" before her number on her badge. i know what that means. cherry girl. so i let her know repeatedly that i wasn't interested in just getting a bj and i also wasn't interested in buying anyone's cherry so there was no way i would barfine her. she was persistent and she told me it wasn't a problem. she was older than most cherry girls (27), ready to make love and didn't want anything extra. i was a little intrigued because i've never been with a virgin, but i didn't let it show. i kept arguing "well, i came here because i want to see lots of different girls and i don't want any one girl getting attached". she said "that's okay, no strings. i understand that you want to see more girls". at that point, i couldn't resist. i took her back and indulged that one fantasy. she actually wasn't bad and was very affectionate. but she just wasn't that pretty. in the morning, i told her i had some business to attend to and wanted to tip her all the money i had left (instead of the normal 2-300). it ended up being only 2, 000 pesos ($40). i actually felt a little guilty. but she left very happy.
night 2
i did a barhop again and ended up back at blue nile. i saw [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) and told her that i was looking for different girls that night. she understood. i figured the least i could do was pay her barfine and send her home so she wouldn't get jealous. then i picked a really pretty 18-year-old dancer to come back with me. she was the worst dead fish i've ever been with. i literally had to pick her up and put her on my dick then i had to move her around. i ended up putting her legs on my shoulders and pounding till i was done. then i sent her on her way. i went back to blue nile and discovered that about 75% of the really beautiful girls were cherry. then i went to blue nile executive and saw a bunch of girls sitting eating cups of noodles near the bathrooms. i ended up sitting down with them and had a great time. sharing their noodles and talking. i found out which ones were and were not cherry and had almost made my selection when mamasan called them out to do the last dance of the night. i lost the girl i wanted, then made a frantic search for the hottest non-cherry girl. i took my selection back with me and she was just as bad as the earlier one. i finished and kicked her out. i'm left wondering where all the lbfm's are.
night 3
i finally moved to the royal amsterdam. very nice hotel, centrally located, great price. i did another barhop and ended up at heartbreakers. i had a great time with a girl that looked like the stereotypical lbfm named arlen and a tiny asian-looking chick named gigi. i decided on arlen and took her back. before we started she said "i lied. i'm not really good at boom-boom. i've only been with 5 men and none of the men at the bar keep me for more than 1 night". i thought "shit, not again". to my surprise, though, she was pretty enthusiastic. she jumped right on, and went to work. she was really sweet and willing to boom-boom as many times as i wanted. she was very flexible and willing to learn. what more could i ask for?
night 4
in the afternoon, i checked out nifty's and rio on the perimeter rd. the girls at rio weren't all that attractive so i went over to nifty's and it looked about the same. then i spotted a cute young chick walking in the back. i called her over and she told me she was a cherry but offered a bj. how could i say no. we started in a curtained-off section of the bar. the she suggested we go upstairs for more privacy. she led me through a kitchen and up a set of stairs to a bedroom. incredible! there must have been 25 women living in this place, but only 3-4 at the bar. she gave a great, long-lasting bbbj and was a really sweet girl. i regret that i wasn't able to repeat with her.
that night, i decided to take both arlen and gigi out of heartbreakers to have a little fun. gigi acted like a little **** in the bar, but was very shy about everything once we got back to the room. she acted like she didn't enjoy the sex much but arlen said it was because she normally went with japanese men and they like that sort of act. so i really pounded and had her screaming at the top of her lungs. pretty cool. then i showered and did arlen who seemed to want to show off her skills to gigi. in the morning, i had a second session with gigi and sent her on her way. i ended up spending the whole day with arlen before moving to wild orchid for my last night in ac.
night 5
wild orchid is a very nice hotel. nicer than the presidente imho. but it has the ridiculous pricetag of $80/night which is crazy for the location. i decided to end my time in ac with my favorita, arlen. it was a good call. she seemed to get better and better every night. she was a really sweet, funny girl. she told me that she liked "bad boys". later, she told me she didn't like the marines who come into the bar. i asked her why she didn't like them because "they are the ultimate bad boys, they kill people". her response was precious. "i don't want the kind of bad boy who kills people. maybe the type of bad boy who kill a chicken, or a mosquito for me". we said our goodbyes and i was off for 1 night in manila before returning to bangkok.
my night in manila
i arrived in manila and checked into the heritage hotel right across the street from the edsa complex. it seemed a little rundown and was way overpriced at $90 per night. i had heard the prettiest (but most expensive) girls were at the bars on p. burgos st. since i only had one night i figured "what the hell" so i headed there at about 9: 00 pm. i hit most of the bars on the street and didn't find a huge selection of pretty girls in any of them except jools. i hung out there for awhile and saw their elaborate floor show. i started to discuss prices with the girl i was sitting with (my second choice as my 1st was with a korean guy, but not bad). she said 3, 500 barfine and 5, 000 tip for her. if my calculations are correct, that's about $170. i don't care if that was just the starting point in a negotiation, i had no intention of paying even half that. i immediately finished my beer, thanked her and left. i headed back to the edsa complex. in one of the bars there (i forget which), i saw a girl with a perfect body and the most stunning face i had seen on my trip. like a young valarie bertinelli. i told the mamasan that she was the one i wanted. she shined a laser pointer in her eyes indicating that she was to come off stage and sit with me. her name was sandy (which she later told me was just a stage name). she had only been there a month and had only been barfined by 5 men. all japanese. i took her back to the hotel and we had a long, sweaty session. two funny things happened. first, as i was cycling her through positions, i tried to roll her over and said "doggy". she said "no. i don't like that". i was like "huh? " but continued on. afterwards, she told me she didn't know what it was when other men had requested it. she assumed it meant something really dirty. she was relieved when i demonstrated what it was. she told me she only made love with her boyfriend in plain-vanilla fashion and her friend who told her about the bar told her about how to "make love with foreigners". all i can say is god bless her friend. the other funny thing is that while i'm not extremely confident in my skills, i sort of got the impression that she had her first orgasm with me. she kept thanking me and kissing me and would leave my side without coming back to thank and kiss me again. it felt great. physically and for my ego.
the next day i didn't have to fly back to bkk until 8pm so i got a room at cherry blossoms (a dump) near robinson's mall in ermita. from there i walked over to l. a. café to check it out. everyone seemed really pushy and there were very few really hot girls that didn't also look dirty. i wound up with two girls. an older one who acted sexy in the bar and a younger, more innocent acting 19 year-old. when i got them back to the hotel, it was a major disappointment. neither was really all that attractive with their clothes off. the older one had a nasty scar from gallbladder surgery so i only took a message from her. since the younger one wasn't really enthusiastic, i pounded on her and got my nut in record time. the older one, then gave me a message. while they did the job, i felt cheated and sent them on their way with their payment.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Actually, two weeks after she started (not finished) her period would correspond with ovulation and, thus, truly be peak time, but I commend your sense of responsibility.
BTW, "Plan B" or "morning after" pills can be fabricated from the oral contraceptives that are available at any pharmacy. Of course, once she's pregnant, other measures are required.
I apologise, you are right and I knew that. It was an error on my part, 2 weeks after her period started is correct.
Please tell me more about fabricating the morning after pill from contraceptives.
Cheers.
Asia Player,
You have an interesting point of view to which you are entitled.
You mention Colombia as a place that has cheap P4P. This is a place I have been to many times. In the last 2 years, the Colombian peso has strengthened on the world market and the girls in the main bars and clubs of Cartagena and Medellin are asking astronomical prices and getting it since the U.S. Government lowered the travel danger warnings to this place. I used to be able to get a classy girl out of LDV or Giro Matto in Cartagena for under US$50 LT using my Spanish and negotiating skills. Now a hot girl won't even look at me for under US$200 and some times that is what she is asking for ST! If you don't believe me check out the Colombia forum. You can forget about this place for cheap sex these days even though the chicks are hot!
Cuba is an other place that in recent times the prices for P4P has sky rocketed. $5 was normal but in the last few years $40 up to $100 ST is being asked.
An other comment you made was:
Speak to any guy that has been going to AC during the 80s to mid-90s and they will tell you how bad it is now in comparison. The girls used to be way hotter, the prices were cheaper, the girls weren’t scammers and they gave great all night service with no bullshit excuses/runners.
This must be there recollection now days after the 20 years of drugs and alcohol has messed with their memories.
I am one of these guys you need to speak to. My first trip to the P.I's was 1985. The bar fine in the Ermita area of Manila and in AC was 500 pesos back then. In 20 years it has only approximately doubled. That in proportion makes it cheaper today then back then. Same goes for AC. As for the great and honest service the girls used to give, this is crap as I get better service now days. In the 1980's, CIM and COF and anal and many other sexual acts that have been since made famous through porn movies did not really exist as the norm. The sex was very conservative back then. Even these days, BJ's are not the Filipina traditional culture and many girls still won't do it.
In overview, the quality of sex and girls is far better now than in the 80's and 90's.
A friend of mine has photos of bar girls from the Subic area from the 1940's through to the 1990's. Most of the girls are not hot in these pics. I will ask him if I can borrow them and see for yourself.
I am pleasantly surprised that the prices have not gone through the roof in the P.I’s in recent years as they have in many other mongering countries. With the construction of upmarket clubs and hotels in AC as we speak, I feel that the powers that be will be attempting to raise the prices so enjoy AC as we know it today as I don’t feel it will be the same in the next few years.
The highest asking price I know of for a bar fine in AC is at Doll House. If you want a “Show girl” the bar fine is a flat, non-negotiable 3,000 pesos. The push for price increases has already started.
Cheers
FireWalker
11-21-06, 11:37
I have never heard of an 'industry standard' in AC.
This is yet another scheme manufactured by the bar owners.
The reason you hear these things (and probably believe them) is because you are friends with some of these guys. Im not friends with any bar owners and I never want to be. I have no intention of deliberately knowing who any of them are either.
The whole premise behind paying the girls share to the bar in advance is a scam. It is not a guarantee of sex, and the mamasan will not necessarily give your money back if the girl doesnt keep to the deal. If the girl breaks any of the 'rules' which the bar enforces then they are severely fined. They will have this taken out of their earnings (and it can really add up, esp. for the newbies who aren't savvy to what can happen to them).
If the bar owners make punters believe that there is a tipping standard of 500+ Pesos then the girls will be much happier with their jobs and the owner wont have to provide anything to achieve this result. Keeping 600P for a girl's EWR is bullshit anyway as its the same price if its 1 minute to closing time. Its no wonder that so many guys hook up with girls after hours.
When it comes to the tip, it also comes down to what you look like. If you consider AC girls are beautiful then you're being generous. Sure there are some hotties but not many. As I keep myself in very good shape I dont feel like the girls experience much hardship by going with me. An overweight 50 year old guy with bad teeth might be expected to give more to get the same service. No one should ever feel oblidged to tip a girl regardless of service. If she performs better than average then yeah give her a little. But 1000P tips are ridiculous. And Field Ave barfines are worth around $26. Add 2 or 3 LDs and its $30.
AP,
You are right on the money. I'd add that how you treat the girl is also important. If you interview right and get a girl that WANTS to be with you, a better time is had by all involved. I have never tipped MORE than 500.
I have a 22 year old regular girl there now (she lets me barfine other girls when I want) and she had a boyfriend for 4 years that spent a small fortune on her. He bought her brother a house, furniture, appliances. He paid for her school and took her on trips to Thailand. She broke up with him and went back to the bars. She was number one girl in 2 bars. She has done tons of long term barfines with wealthy Europeans and sells 8-12 lady drinks a day at times in a small Perimeter bar. Just last week a 30 year old guy wanted to barfine her for a month to go to Thailand and she said no.
I am a 48 year old American Guy with modest means. I send her $100-150 a month in support(she was making twice that) and she doesn't barfine anymore (you can test her for me, if you want). I stand up when she leaves the table and I take her to Karaoke and sing her a song now and then. Tipping has nothing to do with it.
Asia Player,
You have an interesting point of view to which you are entitled.
You mention Colombia as a place that has cheap P4P. This is a place I have been to many times. In the last 2 years, the Colombian peso has strengthened on the world market and the girls in the main bars and clubs of Cartagena and Medellin are asking astronomical prices and getting it since the U.S. Government lowered the travel danger warnings to this place. I used to be able to get a classy girl out of LDV or Giro Matto in Cartagena for under US$50 LT using my Spanish and negotiating skills. Now a hot girl won't even look at me for under US$200 and some times that is what she is asking for ST! If you don't believe me check out the Colombia forum. You can forget about this place for cheap sex these days even though the chicks are hot!
Cuba is an other place that in recent times the prices for P4P has sky rocketed. $5 was normal but in the last few years $40 up to $100 ST is being asked.
An other comment you made was:
Speak to any guy that has been going to AC during the 80s to mid-90s and they will tell you how bad it is now in comparison. The girls used to be way hotter, the prices were cheaper, the girls weren’t scammers and they gave great all night service with no bullshit excuses/runners.
This must be there recollection now days after the 20 years of drugs and alcohol has messed with their memories.
I am one of these guys you need to speak to. My first trip to the P.I's was 1985. The bar fine in the Ermita area of Manila and in AC was 500 pesos back then. In 20 years it has only approximately doubled. That in proportion makes it cheaper today then back then. Same goes for AC. As for the great and honest service the girls used to give, this is crap as I get better service now days. In the 1980's, CIM and COF and anal and many other sexual acts that have been since made famous through porn movies did not really exist as the norm. The sex was very conservative back then. Even these days, BJ's are not the Filipina traditional culture and many girls still won't do it.
In overview, the quality of sex and girls is far better now than in the 80's and 90's.
A friend of mine has photos of bar girls from the Subic area from the 1940's through to the 1990's. Most of the girls are not hot in these pics. I will ask him if I can borrow them and see for yourself.
I am pleasantly surprised that the prices have not gone through the roof in the P.I’s in recent years as they have in many other mongering countries. With the construction of upmarket clubs and hotels in AC as we speak, I feel that the powers that be will be attempting to raise the prices so enjoy AC as we know it today as I don’t feel it will be the same in the next few years.
The highest asking price I know of for a bar fine in AC is at Doll House. If you want a “Show girl” the bar fine is a flat, non-negotiable 3,000 pesos. The push for price increases has already started.
Cheers
If you are looking for classy stunners then you will always pay through the nose. If you want cheap young sluts then Colombia is still cheap and probably always will be. You need to have a bit of an adventurous side to risk mongering outside some of the biggest and well known (ripoff) bars there. The thought of paying a girl $200+ for sex in Colombia is hilarious.
Congratulations for making a trip to AC in 85. Unfortunately, you’re wrong in saying that I need to speak to you about anything that happened back in 85, as I already have friends who have been living in the PI and Angeles SINCE 1985. If you want to qualify yourself as an expert on comparing Angeles over the past 3 decades perhaps you could enlighten me with the frequency of visits you have made since then and the number of girls youve been with. Friends of mine have averaged 100-200 barfines annually. I visit at least 5 times a year.
Girls back in the 80s did not expect or even ask for tips. No one had ever heard of a 'runner'. The girls stayed all night and you had to physically force them to leave the next day. AC used to be crawling with US Marines and the girls were excited to spend the night with these guys and gave them much more real GFE than any of the bullshit girls try to play on mongers these days. Anyway who would blame them looking at the physical state of some of the mongers that are visiting these days.
Regarding the pics your friend has, no need for those either as there are several websites which already have pics of girls from each decade on them. Many of these girls had smoking hot bodies which make today's girls look like poor excuses in comparison. Ive included a pic of one of those 80s girls without comment - ISG members can decide what they think of her themselves.
If you are a member of any of the major AC discussion boards then you should already know that long time experienced mongers of AC are almost all in agreement of several facts. One is that many of the girls these days are fat and way out of shape compared with their counterparts from the 80s and early 90s. Surely you've heard the term 'jolly-bellies' endless times. I can remember girls from the 90s very well, and their bodies were fat free built for fucking. In the bars the girls really danced instead of the 'ac shuffle' we have to put up with today.
As you have made an attempt at bonepicking one of my posts I have chosen a quote from your reply:
"As for the great and honest service the girls used to give, this is crap as I get better service now days. In the 1980's, CIM and COF and anal and many other sexual acts that have been since made famous through porn movies did not really exist as the norm. The sex was very conservative back then. Even these days, BJ's are not the Filipina traditional culture and many girls still won't do it."
Interesting point you make there at the end.
You manage to contradict yourself nicely.
What you receive these days is just one person's perspective. I feel great for you in that you're enjoying yourself more now. Even in the last few years the attitudes of girls on average has steadily declined whereby the girls want more from providing less. Hmmm, what would make them think and act this way? Would it have anything to do with these ridiculous tips that some mongers are handing over? (and I use the term 'monger' very loosely here, as hard-core mongers tip minimally if at all)
If the john back in the 80s wanted a 'girlfriend' to play with then thats what the girls provided. If he wanted a dirty girl then that was easy to find too. If you think that the bargirls didnt let you come on them, then you didnt have much experience, or routinely chose the wrong girls. Unless you're barfining girls that have fucked countless guys (girls who I wouldnt fuck for free) its near impossible finding girls in Angeles that will do anal anyway. If you want a fresh faced young cutie to bang each night, then you will probably need to lower your expectations a little. And those 1000P tips arent going to make much of a difference.
LoveAsianWhores
11-21-06, 19:39
i have been to angeles about 15 times and have always had a great time. i had a trip there about a year ago that was so bad (you can read my previous report if anyone is interested), that i hadn't been back. basically, i was so sick of every cute girl in ac claiming to be a "cherry girl" that i have been sticking to manila recently, with great results. but i felt a change of scenery was needed so i decided to drive down there for a night to see if i could have a better time than last.
first off, the drive was a very pleasant surprise. i had always taken either flythebus, victory lines or a taxi in the past. travel time took anywhere from 2 and something hours to over 4 hours the one time i made the mistake of leaving on a friday evening. this was the first time i was driving there myself, but was shocked when i got there in just over an hour. i left on a sunday afternoon and since speeding tickets don't really exist in manila, i cruised there at around 70 mph. coming back took over two hours due to traffic, but considering that leaving and coming at the right times should result in travel times of around 75 minutes, the place isn't as far as it used to seem. especially when it sometimes takes me over an hour to drive from makati to ermita in traffic.
checked into my favorite place, the oasis. 2,500p a night, but a real nice place and worth the price. we were meeting bunch of girls that my friend had set up for some inexpensive afternoon fun. we met them at theville and i picked one and took here back for a quick bang that took a couple of hours.
decided to check out the bars starting at about 8:00 pm. the first bar that i found a girl worth buying a drink for was at the doll house. the ladies drink cost 250p (what the fuck!) and then she tells me that she only dances and never barfines. so, i am off to a bad start. since the ladies drink was 250, it was clear that this was a tourist trap as i couldn't imagine regular ac punters paying that much. i remember this being a ok bar in the past, but things do change. i made it a point not to leave a tip, and got a "look" from the waitress. so, i get ripped of for 250p and she expects to me to leave a tip? it might not be her fault, but if you work in a place that rips of customers, you shouldn't be surprised if tips are few and far between.
the next place that i saw some cuties was bedrock. i called down two girls that i liked, figuring that i should have luck with at least one of them. turns out that they are both cherry girls. but since this is what happened to me last time, i was expecting as much and wasn't bothered by it. i was only here for a change of pace and to see if things had changed. apparently, things hadn't.
so the next place that i find a really cute girl was champagne. call her down. buy her a drink, do the chitchat thing, and ask if i can pay her barfine. she then tells me that she had a really bad customer last night and she needed to rest tonight. she said that he forced her to fuck him two times and wouldn't stop until she started crying. maybe true, maybe not. if anyone has some special way of knowing when a bargirl is telling the truth, i would really like to know how. but anyway, this girl was really hot, so i said "i will give you an extra 1,000p". considering that i often pay a 2,500 to 3,500 barfine in burgoss plus 2,000 or 2,500 to the girl, a thousand peso tip is no problem. however, this is not a strategy that i can ever remember using before in ac. but it worked! so she agrees, but says only one time "because her pussy still hurts from last night". i say "ok". then she says "short time", and i say fine. and then she says something about me being quick. at that point i say in no uncertain terms that i am ok with one pop, ok with a 1,000p tip, but i finish when i finish. no ifs ands or buts with that. she agrees and off we go. anyway, this chick has a dynamite body and a beautiful face. she starts complaining after about 10 mins but i just ignore her. i am normally quite flexible when a girl claims to be in pain, but in this case, it was in one ear and out the other. but when all was said in done, it was an excellent fuck (tight body + tight pussy + beautiful face = excellent fuck, even if the attidute is lacking). she also appeared quite happy when all was over (i guess i was a perfect gentleman compared to her customer yesterday). we chatted for a while and i liked her so much that i would definately have barfined her again the next day if was staying another night in angeles.
the problem was that she turned me on so much that i blew rather quickly and needed another round. since she claimed to be in pain (and i actually believed her), i would have to head back out to the strip to find another girl. ended up finding an ok girl at neros to finish up the night with.
so, while this trip was better than my last, angeles is still no manila. while i did find one really beautfull girl, i had to go through lots of bars to find her. now compare this experience to the firehouse, for example. the firehouse just rocks this time of year. i had two girls from there in the three days prior to this angeles trip. and they were both hotter then about 98% of what i saw in ac. but.....i still will be returning to ac in the near future. it is a quick drive if you leave at the right time. it is fun, albeit a little frustrating at times. and it is change of pace, even if it is a step down from manila. and if you find that one girl who does it for you, everything else is forgotten, even if just for the moment.
Hello Gents,
Interesting discussion the past few days. Meeting up with a few ISG members, so if anybody is in town and wants to barhop and exchange information, PM me.
Excelsior!
Asia Player,
You are an amusing fellow with strong opinions. Good for you. Fortunately, experiences are different for each and every one of us. For e.g. in Medellin I was with a black girl who gave me the time of my life and stayed all night. In the morning we had breakfast and I told my friend who lives in Medellin about her. When he saw her he recognised her and said that he had bar fined her a few weeks back but she was not a good performer. This was the total opposite of what I experienced. Obviously she was a) in the mood, b) liked me more than him and c) loving every minute of what I was doing to her so she hung around for no extra money until the afternoon. My friend was shocked. This is what I am trying to explain about different experiences with may be the same girl or the same place.
If I want to screw ugly, fat, smelly girls in Colombia, this is possible for almost no money but I can do that in my own city for free and I don't want to. If I am to go to the trouble, risk and expense to monger over seas, I want it to be not only for the tourist aspect but for the fact that I will find women MUCH more attractive and exotic there than I ever would back home.
As for anal sex in AC, I have at least a 50% hit rate these days. Much higher than the 80's and 90's for me. I have a great story that I tell them about how all foreigners love it and if they want to find a foreigner man to fall in love with them and marry them (their ultimate goal in life lol) they must not only not be scared of anal but they must be good at it as it will give them a higher chance of hooking a "Kano". I then tell them that I would be prepared to teach them what a foreigner likes if they want. Most believe this story and I have had great success. I find Filipinas very gullible compared to many other races so this kind of thing is the norm.
As for the 80’s pic u posted, I see 100’s if no 1,000’s of girls in the PI’s with as good or better bodies these days. I do not see an over supply of fat girls there as you are suggesting these days. Sure there are some but you don’t have to bar fine them.
In answer to your question, I used to travel to the PI's for work 4 times per year in the 1980's and early 1990's. I then changed jobs took a break from the PI's and travelled the world and went back to the PI’s again starting over 2 years ago now. I have been back 6 times in the last 2 years.
BTW I don’t tip many girls 1000 pesos (U.S.$20 bucks lol) as you have implied but I am happy to if they have rocked my world. Hell what’s $20 bucks these days to us any way?
Hope I have satisfied your curiosity.
Cheers & happy mongering
Arrived yesterday evening at 10.00pm. Needed to buy some drinking water so walked out of my hotel (DM Residente). I suddenly realized the distances on the Balibago map were very small, so headed to Santos Street alias Blow Row and tried one of the girls. 600 pesos for a really well done blow job, done without any hurry and with nice CIM. The girl's name is Anna, she is rather cute and 18 years old.
Compared to Pattaya this place appears to be 25% less expensive, hotels apart. I am seriously considering leaving Pattaya and Thai Immigration crazyness to move here.
More details will follow next days.
You really want us to answer that?
[QUOTE=Npaul1]If lawyers don't get tips, why should whoors? Are whoors better than lawyers?QUOTE]
Bill Buxton
11-23-06, 01:52
fields ave is open for business again to all who want to drive walk crawl and what ever else you care to do.the gates are down and you can again take your life in your own hands dodging traffic of all kinds.
the amount of foreign foot traffic is low imho as the season is getting into full swing.the girls out and about are in great numbers with little white skin to be seen.the gals are hungry and waiting with bated breath for all who want the companionship here.the prices are low and the selection is vast.you can have what ever whenever you want with any, yes any gal here.you like what you see at the hotel front desk,the waitress,the sails lady just ask away.they will all be on the on the market as the big holiday is getting upon us.hubbys,bf's they all understand the money is good and they are all getting what they want when the wife is out so don't worry.what a place this is,all you have to do is have "pesonality" and the place is up for grabs.
sounds sick,sounds,not true,please don't be shy just try and you will see.i have ventured in places i thought were not possable and came away far better off than i whould have ever figured.if you are scared stay home but please remember you are the boss and can and are the one in control.the smart ones will give you some play time,they don't want to loose there private atm!!
much better to go home (province) and let you play than have trouble with you and have the atm go off line forever (dba)right.get to some of the smaller bars 20-30 minutes before they open and watch who drops off some of the bf staff.the asawa,the bf wanting the gal to make the money so he can stay home and drink ginn and red horse.the vast majority has a bf or something at home so never feel that you are breaking anyones heart.this is not gonna happen,the only heart you should worry about is yours !!!!!!!!!
this sounds cold and not like what most of us have ever experenced before but this is there set of rules not ours.you should always go by the local standards and use what you know when you return home.throw everything you were ever taught out the window and get up to speed here.do what you want and be nice and polite and you will have the time of your life here.i bet my red sox tickets on it.
b.b...
Excellent report shadow, especially liked the part about the Marines. Bad boys, whatcha gonna do.
You really want us to answer that?
[QUOTE=Npaul1]If lawyers don't get tips, why should whoors? Are whoors better than lawyers?QUOTE]
The one similarity that comes to mind is that they both fuck u in some way lol
fields ave is open for business again to all who want to drive walk crawl and what ever else you care to do.the gates are down and you can again take your life in your own hands dodging traffic of all kinds.
the amount of foreign foot traffic is low imho as the season is getting into full swing.the girls out and about are in great numbers with little white skin to be seen.the gals are hungry and waiting with bated breath for all who want the companionship here.the prices are low and the selection is vast.you can have what ever whenever you want with any, yes any gal here.you like what you see at the hotel front desk,the waitress,the sails lady just ask away.they will all be on the on the market as the big holiday is getting upon us.hubbys,bf's they all understand the money is good and they are all getting what they want when the wife is out so don't worry.what a place this is,all you have to do is have "pesonality" and the place is up for grabs.
sounds sick,sounds,not true,please don't be shy just try and you will see.i have ventured in places i thought were not possable and came away far better off than i whould have ever figured.if you are scared stay home but please remember you are the boss and can and are the one in control.the smart ones will give you some play time,they don't want to loose there private atm!!
much better to go home (province) and let you play than have trouble with you and have the atm go off line forever (dba)right.get to some of the smaller bars 20-30 minutes before they open and watch who drops off some of the bf staff.the asawa,the bf wanting the gal to make the money so he can stay home and drink ginn and red horse.the vast majority has a bf or something at home so never feel that you are breaking anyones heart.this is not gonna happen,the only heart you should worry about is yours !!!!!!!!!
this sounds cold and not like what most of us have ever experenced before but this is there set of rules not ours.you should always go by the local standards and use what you know when you return home.throw everything you were ever taught out the window and get up to speed here.do what you want and be nice and polite and you will have the time of your life here.i bet my red sox tickets on it.
b.b...
well said bb. i couldn't agree with you more.
enjoy
b.b...[/quote]
shadowj,
i enjoyed reading your report.
it is unlikely that the girl from blue nile (the 27 year old one) was a virgin even though she may have had the letter "v" on her id. the pi's is a corrupt place and getting a false id is too easy. there are also many ways for the girl to imitate a virgin with hymen and bleed and pretend to hurt etc. but that's an other story.
just to give you and idea of the corruption here is, many of the girls that are not quite the right age to be working in bars use their cousin's or sisters’ birth certificate to show they are old enough. then they get a bar id. that's all it takes and may be a few extra pesos.
the down fall is that if for any reason, the foreigner is caught with a girl that is believed to be under 18 by the police, then no matter how innocent he is, (i mean he met her in a bar and she had the right i.d. etc so he didn't know) the foreigner will find himself in trouble. fyi, the penalty in the pi’s for **** sex is life imprisonment (even though this is rarely practised). it usually ends up with a night or two (or longer) in jail and then a big pay out (bribe) of up to several thousand u.s.$$$$ to get out and be allowed on your airplane home. i personally know of several cases that happened to unknowing tourists. some times, this is used as a scam to get money off you and some times the girl and her boyfriend work in with the police and split the bribe. same happens in kenya and many other places.
just remember your rights in the pi's are not as they are back home. just because you are an american or european etc doesn’t mean shit here. beatings, torture and even gang style executions by police called "salvage" happen all the time even though you would have to have done something really bad like murder if that was to happen to you. just a word for the wise. if you get in trouble with the law in the pi's and you are a tourist without political connections, pay man just pay and be on your way. the alternative is not pretty. you have no rights here but you have money and it buys most anything in the pi's. sad but true.
any way back to your report, it sounds to me like you have everything under control and you don't need any tips.
good job.
enjoy.
Bill Buxton
11-23-06, 20:31
After spending time looking at the photo section I can see that the good lookers are in manila.After 4 months here in ac the gals are getting old.The attatudes and quality are not that of makati.It also could be my eyes are goin bad from to many trips to fields and permiter rd.I THINK I WILL TAKE A FAST TRIP TO THE BIG CITY AND SEE IF ITS ME OR THE AREA.Please do not get me wrong there are lots of good looking gals here but the stock is spinning in a small circle not refreshing its self fast enough.I have had the quanity so now lets get some high end stuff.
B.B...
After spending time looking at the photo section I can see that the good lookers are in manila.After 4 months here in ac the gals are getting old.The attatudes and quality are not that of makati.It also could be my eyes are goin bad from to many trips to fields and permiter rd.I THINK I WILL TAKE A FAST TRIP TO THE BIG CITY AND SEE IF ITS ME OR THE AREA.Please do not get me wrong there are lots of good looking gals here but the stock is spinning in a small circle not refreshing its self fast enough.I have had the quanity so now lets get some high end stuff.
B.B...
Cebu has some real lookers and occasionally you will find some in the area 1 or 2 miles further down from Bario Baretto in Subic.
http://upload4.postimage.org/1735311/photo_hosting.html
http://upload4.postimage.org/1735338/photo_hosting.html
links to photo of Anna , nice girl working in a bar of Santos Street
ThePest1998
11-25-06, 01:47
I checked sites on bars in Cebu. The prices are tremendous compare with Angeles. Eg drink P60 to P75, ladies drink P200, bf P1600-P2000. What so special about this place? Still can get reasonable prices accommodation though. Can someone comment on the ladies? Is it worth a try.
As I wrote before I am here in Angeles to find out if it can be a good alternative to Pattaya for living, now the girls are good, the food is good, the shopping is good, but real estate seems inaccessible. In Pattaya there is an agent each 50 meters, here there is no one! The cheapest renting I have found are Daddy's Apartelle http://www.angelescity.com/daddyo.html , 200$ for a small unit, but the ambience is thirdworldish and the room without window.
Any Angeles resident on this forum ? What kind of accomodation did you get ?
I checked sites on bars in Cebu. The prices are tremendous compare with Angeles. Eg drink P60 to P75, ladies drink P200, bf P1600-P2000. What so special about this place? Still can get reasonable prices accommodation though. Can someone comment on the ladies? Is it worth a try.
Well some of the Cebuana girls I have had have been prettier on average than other Filipinas and I have had several that naturally had no body hair at all! I mean 22-year-old girls with no pussy hair, leg hair of armpit hair. Naturally smooth, no shaving. I can’t say I have experienced that anywhere else in the PI's.
Take a look.
A cheap and easy option is to take a taxi from the airport to Five Star bus terminal in Pasay City (about 70 pesos). Take from there a North Bound Bus to Dau (about 130 pesos) and from Dau's Mabalacat bus terminal a tricyle to Balibago (about 70 pesos).
When you leave the arrival hall at let's say 7:30 pm this works pretty well. Have a save trip!
Cheers - HesekielsNow that I have maps of both Angeles and Manila can confirm this is the best way to do the trip. Mabalacat bus terminal is actually just 1500m from Fields Avenue, you can just walk 300mt to Mc Arthur Highway take a jeepney to Angeles for 7,5 pesos and then jump off at the crossing with Fields Avenue. Balibago is very small and every hotel is just at walking distance (unless of course you are dragging a huge case , then just take a trike).
Unfortunately I had no detailed maps back in Thailand and so choose the "fly the bus" way. Also arranged my airport pickup with Swangman but after waiting almost 1 hour without them showing up and missing the change to make them a phonecall took an airport taxi instead for a shameful fare of 530 pesos. Then another 500 pesos for the bus to Angeles, that anyway delivered me just in front of my hotel desk.
As I wrote before I am here in Angeles to find out if it can be a good alternative to Pattaya for living, now the girls are good, the food is good, the shopping is good, but real estate seems inaccessible. In Pattaya there is an agent each 50 meters, here there is no one! The cheapest renting I have found are Daddy's Apartelle http://www.angelescity.com/daddyo.html , 200$ for a small unit, but the ambience is thirdworldish and the room without window.
Any Angeles resident on this forum ? What kind of accomodation did you get ?
Depending on your budget, you can rent a 1 or 2 bedroom simple apartment to which you will have to supply your own air-conditioning for as low as 3,500 pesos per month. You are right that Agents are not easy to find unless you want to buy a place. The owners usually do their own renting. Asking people like Mammasan, bar owners etc is the way to find deals. If you want a fancier condo or what we call "Town House" in a secured complex, then you can expect to pay even up to 20,000 pesos per month. You will also need to supply your own furniture etc for most of these rentals. They also seem to ask for 12 month or longer leases. I took a good look around the AC area for permanent rentals about 12 months ago. The other way is to get a trike driver to take you around to new housing estates and then ask the guard etc. There are some really nice places, which are almost new for 10,000 to 15,000 per month.
Good luck.
Towelboy2010
11-26-06, 01:04
I reserved a rental car today to drive from Manila to Angeles. The cost is $36 per day + gas for a "mid-size" car. This is less than a taxi. And more convenient I think.
Except for a recent post by LAW, no one has suggested driving.
Am I missing something here?
Thanks, Bob
I checked sites on bars in Cebu. The prices are tremendous compare with Angeles. Eg drink P60 to P75, ladies drink P200, bf P1600-P2000.
That's what I always say. Angeles City is by far the best deal in the Philippines!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Depending on your budget, you can rent a 1 or 2 bedroom simple apartment to which you will have to supply your own air-conditioning for as low as 3,500 pesos per month. You are right that Agents are not easy to find unless you want to buy a place. The owners usually do their own renting. Asking people like Mammasan, bar owners etc is the way to find deals. If you want a fancier condo or what we call "Town House" in a secured complex, then you can expect to pay even up to 20,000 pesos per month. You will also need to supply your own furniture etc for most of these rentals. They also seem to ask for 12 month or longer leases. I took a good look around the AC area for permanent rentals about 12 months ago. The other way is to get a trike driver to take you around to new housing estates and then ask the guard etc. There are some really nice places, which are almost new for 10,000 to 15,000 per month.
Good luck.Thx for the info. I have just seen a villa complex at Timog Park, but besides the fact is 6km away from Balibago, they do not rent and sell only, and me being a foreigner should put the property in name of a filippino who in turn signes a sheet of paper declaring the property is mine, like if that sheet of paper had any legal value, forget it !
Do you know of new condominium for SALE ? All what I can see around are just old junky small buildings !
Shoud I discard Angeles and choose to buy my property in Makati or Cebu ? But girls there are much more expensive and also real estate is far from being cheap I am afraid.
Hi to all mongers and Ac residents,
maybe a little bit off topic: I got to know one of those AC filam gurls, who wereleft by their US daddy and I will try to help her when Im back in AC next month.
I heard bout some organisation in AC who can help so the chidlren can get visa to uS or some other benefits.
If somebody know, sent me a PM or link so I can take care of that once IM in AC (mid of december).
I will let you know all then what happen to the girl :)
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
In Manila airport the cheapest way is to go to the departure level and catch a taxi which has dropped off somebody. When you come out of the arrival level walk to the right and there are stairs to go up to departure level. Make sure to ask the taxi driver to turn the meter on. Anywhere in Manila should not cost you more than 200 pesos. If you want to be nice pay 20 pesos more than the meter. There is no need to have pre arranged pick up from the hotel .
Do not go to the Taxi counter. They will charge you upwards of 600 pesos.
Asia Player,
You are an amusing fellow with strong opinions. Good for you. Fortunately, experiences are different for each and every one of us. For e.g. in Medellin I was with a black girl who gave me the time of my life and stayed all night. In the morning we had breakfast and I told my friend who lives in Medellin about her. When he saw her he recognised her and said that he had bar fined her a few weeks back but she was not a good performer. This was the total opposite of what I experienced. Obviously she was a) in the mood, b) liked me more than him and c) loving every minute of what I was doing to her so she hung around for no extra money until the afternoon. My friend was shocked. This is what I am trying to explain about different experiences with may be the same girl or the same place.
If I want to screw ugly, fat, smelly girls in Colombia, this is possible for almost no money but I can do that in my own city for free and I don't want to. If I am to go to the trouble, risk and expense to monger over seas, I want it to be not only for the tourist aspect but for the fact that I will find women MUCH more attractive and exotic there than I ever would back home.
As for anal sex in AC, I have at least a 50% hit rate these days. Much higher than the 80's and 90's for me. I have a great story that I tell them about how all foreigners love it and if they want to find a foreigner man to fall in love with them and marry them (their ultimate goal in life lol) they must not only not be scared of anal but they must be good at it as it will give them a higher chance of hooking a "Kano". I then tell them that I would be prepared to teach them what a foreigner likes if they want. Most believe this story and I have had great success. I find Filipinas very gullible compared to many other races so this kind of thing is the norm.
As for the 80’s pic u posted, I see 100’s if no 1,000’s of girls in the PI’s with as good or better bodies these days. I do not see an over supply of fat girls there as you are suggesting these days. Sure there are some but you don’t have to bar fine them.
In answer to your question, I used to travel to the PI's for work 4 times per year in the 1980's and early 1990's. I then changed jobs took a break from the PI's and travelled the world and went back to the PI’s again starting over 2 years ago now. I have been back 6 times in the last 2 years.
BTW I don’t tip many girls 1000 pesos (U.S.$20 bucks lol) as you have implied but I am happy to if they have rocked my world. Hell what’s $20 bucks these days to us any way?
Hope I have satisfied your curiosity.
Not really. Because nothing you have written here can be substantiated.
I think your 'great story' which you tell girls is very poor as it paints a false and bad impression into these girls minds of what foreign visitors to Angeles are into. If this is what you like, then thats great, but it would probably be best not to say that all men are into this and are expecting the girls to do it with us. Im amazed that you would even write this secret about yourself on here.
After reading all of your recent posts, and because 6 weeks had passed since I had last been to AC, I decided to spend the weekend there to see if any of your claims to what most AC bargirls look like were in any way accurate.
The result was negative.
This was my 7th trip in 2006 so I have a reasonably clear perspective of what can be found there. And the 10000+ pics of naked pinays I have taken in the last few years maintain a reasonably good record of what I found. The only reason I dont visit more is because the prices have been rising while the service/attitudes and the standards have been steadily dropping.
I went to about 15 bars on Fields over 2 nights and found that there were few if any girls that I would spend money on. Sure there were several hot tiny bodied girls whose bodies had not been ravaged by childbirth. Unfortunately these girls had not had sex before, which limited the possibilities of what sexual contact I could have with them.
I realise that you have covered yourself by saying that there are 1000s of these girls that I like in the _PIs_, however a very small percentage of this number are actually located in AC.
To be honest, yet again I was overly disgusted at the physical state that most of these AC bargirls are in, and they pale in comparison to the asian girls from my home city. Most AC girls are fat and they have rough heads too. These are girls that would never get a job in a P. Burgos bar, EDSA or any of the high-class KTVs in Manila because they just arent pretty and their bodies are way too out of shape. Sure there are plenty of guys that think AC girls are hot, sexy and beautiful but they have little, if anything, to compare them to.
Regarding your 'anal success rate' of 50%, that is especially remarkable as you seemingly imply to have coerced anal-virgins into losing their cherry over the price of a one night stand barfine. If a friend of mine told me that he achieved this in AC I would tell him its bullshit. If however the girls you mention were barfined several nights, you bought them meals/gifts and/or gave them substantial tips (or told them that you would as a bribe) then the story is somewhat more believable. Ive never discussed a tip in my life, and if the girl mentions it in the bar then I will flick her instantly and get another.
The girls that I barfine need to be young, tiny and relatively inexperienced (and reasonably new to AC). The thought of fucking a girl who has sucked over 500 cocks in her short working career doesnt particularly appeal to me. And looking at the 'talent' that is on sale in AC, most of them look like they have had plenty more than that. If anyone likes 3-holers in AC they are easy to find. Just walk into any large bar and ask the mamasan who they are. Perhaps the girls that you have been with were a little more experienced than you may like to consider and played a good game in allowing you to believe that you had 'won them over'? Hard to really tell unless you can read their minds and know their complete sexual history.
The only reason I have spent the time to write these long replies because there needs to be some sort of balance in terms of what newbies will read about on PI mongering forums such as this one. I rarely if ever need to do this elsewhere because other discussion boards are in agreement with the claims I have questioned here. The opinions of at least 90% of the experienced members on the biggest AC discussion boards are responsible for developing and strengthening my own views on the bars and girls in Angeles City.
And if you think that the only cheap sex that can be had in Colombia is with ugly, fat girls then you simply need to spend more time there. If you decide to move there for a while, let me know, and I will put you in contact with some expat buddies of mine living in Colombia, who have several locations very well sorted.
btw - future correspondance is probably best saved for PMs as Im sure other members are getting sick of our public exchanges regarding what AC is about. That is, unless you need to have the last word - and in that case, its all yours.
seeya!
http://www.rovimar.com/
Just in Santos Street opposite the bj bars I so much like, they are building a condominium complex. The only problem is the price : $ 65,000 for a studio! Have they mischanged Angeles City for Los Angeles in U.S.A.?
Tomorrow I head for Makati to get some info about RE there and stock brokers and Philippine Retirement Authority, then will go to see Cebu.
In Manila airport the cheapest way is to go to the departure level and catch a taxi which has dropped off somebody. When you come out of the arrival level walk to the right and there are stairs to go up to departure level. Make sure to ask the taxi driver to turn the meter on. Anywhere in Manila should not cost you more than 200 pesos. If you want to be nice pay 20 pesos more than the meter. There is no need to have pre arranged pick up from the hotel .
Do not go to the Taxi counter. They will charge you upwards of 600 pesos.
Totally agree,
if you dont find any driver there who puts his meter on, just continue walking, pass the checkpoint and wave a cab who will put on the meter.
But beware, even the yput the meter on they can fool you. On my last trip the guy drove me and my buddy to Makati, instead to Manila. He did several shortcuts and me and my buddy I met in the plane, were exchanging travelstories and before we know what happen we saw ourselves in makati/burgos.
Im not a newbie so I told him we wanted to go to Manila, not Makati, he appologized many times and told us its his first day (yeah right) before he drive jeepney(belived that, cause he drives like an idiot and cut evrybodys way) If that happen, remain calm. Let him drive to your hotel, get your things out. Pay what you like. I paid him for the one hour trip hundred pesos, went to my hotel and let him stand outside. Im not in the mood for any further discussion after a long flight and security wont let him enter anyway :D
Asianplayer,
agree with you also. But because AC has many bars, you will find the gurl you wana barfine. Some times u have to visit more bars (or have more beers :D) When I go Manila, Edsa Complex, I imediately find five gurls in evry bar I would like to barfine. In Ac , I have to do more walking.
As of my expereince withh AC gurls, if the gurls is from Ac or from Manila,be careful, cause of the upcoming bola2story she will give. As of my experiance it was always a total waste of time/money to hook up with them.
So, be prepared for some extrabola2 if you meet up with those gurls.
Im flying back in 3 weeks and Im sure it will be the same. Between christmas and new years some bars closed. Gurls will leave to their provnce. So you have to prearranged your gurl once you will arrive at that time. Watch ur wallet, evrybody needs money at christmas. Scam alert!!!
Happy hunting!!
Blink157
Asia Player,
This is an anonymous web site. There is not ONE post that can be emphatically substantiated unless you go to that country and try those things yourself with the writer of that post. You then must allow for looks, personality and game differences if you want to experience the same as the writers. For e.g. if an ugly old guy prints out the post of a handsome young man and tries to relive the young guys experiences, he will NOT have the same experiences. The old guy will have a lot less luck and not get the same attitude from the girls as the younger man will. This does not mean the younger man was lying about his post. This is an example only.
Is this site not a place to share travelling and mongering experiences? Is not what I and 100’s of others are doing? As they say, take what you need from these posts and leave the rest. No one is forcing you to read them or forcing you to believe them.
You say you are Asian, therefore, your view of beauty and the attitude you get from the girls will be quite different to mine. Don’t you agree? I personally don’t like small, skinny, inexperienced girls as you do.
If the results of your investigations in AC recently were different to mine, then it is because you are not me, (a 6 foot 3 inch guapo white man with a lot of game) therefore your experiences will be different.
I have had nothing but positive PM’s from members saying they have enjoyed my posts and our retort on this forum. See how experiences can be different?
Cheers.
This is true, after arriving if you go left there is a elevator take you to 2nd floor with your baggage if you don't want to climb the stairs. Police will tell you not to get taxi here so don't stand there just keep walking and they will pull over for you.
I went to about 15 bars on Fields over 2 nights and found that there were few if any girls that I would spend money on ... The girls that I barfine need to be young, tiny and relatively inexperienced (and reasonably new to AC) ... If anyone likes 3-holers in AC they are easy to find. Just walk into any large bar and ask the mamasan who they are ...
Asia Player:
Excellent post! Very often I was also hopping from bar to bar until I found somebody who really met my taste - and then it turned out that my choice was indeed inexperienced and new to AC, but unfortunately a cherry girl as well! In order to avoid such frustrating moments it is worthwhile to take your piece of advice to heart and talk directly to the mamasan. It's convenient and saves a lot of time.
Cheers - Hesekiels
Bill Buxton
11-28-06, 00:47
The gals are getting fired up for the holiday and getting the pesonality any way they can.I have had 3 gals in 4 days with menstration.I screen the gal in the bar and they all say no I DO NOT HAVE!! What the fuck are these bird brain fools thinking about.They will sell there soul for a 500-p hit and run in the bed.This place becomes more crazy every day,The scamms are everlasting and how many people fall out of a coconut tree per week here?? That was a latest attempt by a gal to extort some cash from my pocket.The lies and bula bula never stops.
Why can a gal get 1 barfine a night and 25bf's per month and she is a nice girl? But when a foreigner has 3-4 gals per month he is a butterfly?The fucking way these gals think is unreal.What do they think, we get off the plane and go to a bar and the first gal wanting a bf is the gal we will spend the rest of our days with?? I don't think so!!!
I am going to try a new way of starting the deal.I will tell the gal the tip in the morning is performance based,She wants to monkey business at the hotel the tip is low she wants to be straight up the tip is better.The smart gals will do the deal no problems the rest will shake there heads when they get trike money in the morning.I am sure the trike money gals will consider me a cheep charley but who cares the good thing is there are another 4-5 thousand gals wanting the cash the next day.
Guys be ready for war "you and your cash against them and the scamms" The christmas thing here is much different than at home so if you will be here over the holiday you will get first hand the wild holiday cheer ringside.The good thing is get all the numbers you can they will all be calling trying to get some extra cash this time of year.
STAY SHARP, PLAY SAFE, B.B...
Bill Buxton
11-28-06, 00:57
Asia Player,
This is an anonymous web site. There is not ONE post that can be emphatically substantiated unless you go to that country and try those things yourself with the writer of that post. You then must allow for looks, personality and game differences if you want to experience the same as the writers. For e.g. if an ugly old guy prints out the post of a handsome young man and tries to relive the young guys experiences, he will NOT have the same experiences. The old guy will have a lot less luck and not get the same attitude from the girls as the younger man will. This does not mean the younger man was lying about his post. This is an example only.
Is this site not a place to share travelling and mongering experiences? Is not what I and 100’s of others are doing? As they say, take what you need from these posts and leave the rest. No one is forcing you to read them or forcing you to believe them.
You say you are Asian, therefore, your view of beauty and the attitude you get from the girls will be quite different to mine. Don’t you agree? I personally don’t like small, skinny, inexperienced girls as you do.
If the results of your investigations in AC recently were different to mine, then it is because you are not me, (a 6 foot 3 inch guapo white man with a lot of game) therefore your experiences will be different.
I have had nothing but positive PM’s from members saying they have enjoyed my posts and our retort on this forum. See how experiences can be different?
Cheers.
I AM NOT taking sides here.
The thing I would like to say here is each person has developed his own style and way of working his magic. So what ever works good for you will often be a flop when used by another.Guys develop what ever work well for you and run with that.We all know that it is not rocket science here and just being yourself is most often the best way to get a great gal.Please don't think that everyone takes every word here as the gospel way of duing business.We all get little pieces out of every post we can store and use in out own way.Lets use the info provided here to sharpen our skills and combat potential scamms.Personal safety and general mongering quality.After all we are all here for the same reason to have a good time.
MY 2 CENTS, B.B...
Why can a gal get 1 barfine a night and 25bf's per month and she is a nice girl? But when a foreigner has 3-4 gals per month he is a butterfly?The fucking way these gals think is unreal.What do they think, we get off the plane and go to a bar and the first gal wanting a bf is the gal we will spend the rest of our days with?? I don't think so!!!
That paragraph fully describes the only problem I had in AC. Some of these girls got so jealous when they saw me with other women that I felt unconfortable returning to their bar. After my first week I didn't hesitate to specify that my intention was to screw as many girls as I could and that I really was butterfly. Never got rejected because of that and avoided alot of headache.
Bubbagoes100
11-28-06, 09:38
You gotta understand, to the girls its only work. When they barfine a guy its work, whether they barfine 1 or 2 guys a night its work and income. When they see you barfine another girl, well thats their money, their work walking down the street away from them.
Its only work.
You don't lose your girl, you only lose your place.
These are the rules you have to play by in the bargirl scene.
So, what we are all butterfly man, why else would we be there?
That paragraph fully describes the only problem I had in AC. Some of these girls got so jealous when they saw me with other women that I felt unconfortable returning to their bar. After my first week I didn't hesitate to specify that my intention was to screw as many girls as I could and that I really was butterfly. Never got rejected because of that and avoided alot of headache.
I fully agree with you. I to have found out that if I tell the girls up front that I am NOT looking for a GF or wife but I am on holidays to enjoy myself, they don't hassle me the next time I come in that bar.
Bill Buxton
11-29-06, 00:09
I first want to say that most of the people here are ok.The ones that are out for peso's are a pain in the fucking ASS.I have been staying at the Marquis annex hotel for over 3 months now and the hotel itself is ok.They have a new vip hotel owned by the same people across the street with 10 new rooms.The staff on the other hand is a fucking nightmare!The owner is ann american guy that is married to the actual owner.The wife has the relathives running the show.This is where the problem is!Some not all are ok,(men) guards and bellboys.The problem is the scamming frends of the owners.They will flirt and try to overcharg you for anything they can.From extensions to drinks.And when they get to know what you give per day in tips they go from a smile on there face to a sour look.The game lasts as long as you accept there advances and when you call them on the advances they say I am not like that.I have personaly had the worst two here in bed and they are nothing more than bar galls in a different uniform.They will tell you every lie in the world once they think the hook is set.
You should it in my opinion a good idea to move around not stay in one place too long anywhere.Try and keep your stay on a business style setting not a personal or one.If they consider you one of the family they try the I NEED MONEY THING!!.The latest scamm was the gal at the front desk wanted to get my extension for me.OK no problem,that is 30 minutes I dont have to spend in line at imagration myself.After she handed me the completed form she handed me the price,This was the problem.She padded the bill and then wanted money to do the deal.Yes it is small money but add up 6-8 dollars several times a day and this several weeks in a row and then several months and this will buy a flight home.And try and remember SOBER what you had to drink 3-6 hrs before.Was it 1 ice tea and 2 coke's or 3 ice tea's and 1 mountain dew?GENTLEMEN, PAY AS YOU GO FOR EVERYTHING HERE!because the coverup phrase here is I GUESS WE MADE A MISTAKE! I dont know about you all but if my business at home made this many mistakes I would have been out of business 3-4 months after I started up.
The general rule here is please remember they will all try and make you stupid.And just keep in mind this is a hotel not a bar!Get receipts for your room do not pay in advance they will give you a monthly rate even though you pay per day.Keep your business up and current and you will stay ahead of the bird brain's here every where you go.
STAYING AHEAD OF THE SCAMMS,
B.B...
Bill Buxton
11-29-06, 11:26
I had the front desk gal tell me that the price of my extension was 65 dollars higher than the actual price I paid myself today.Another thing I went and changed my return flight date again.The people at swagman travel told me along with the know it all behind the desk at the hotel that I had to send my original passport to PHIL airlines to get the new E-ticket.What a fucking load of shit this is.I told them that they needed nothing other than a photo coppy to get the ticket when I paid for it.They were dead set against me giving another photocoppy and insisted on the original passport.
My reply was EXCUSE ME NEVER.After 30 minutes on the phone to Manila and several people at PHIL AIR THEY SAID THE COPPY WILL BE JUST FINE. And the girl was red faced when I reminded her that she said "SIR I DO THIS EVERY DAY ALL THE AIRLINES REQUIRE IT"What do they think I want some person running around Manila with my passport?Guy's,It will come back to you ten fold to question whatever anyone wants you to do in most cases here.I can buy 100 tickets and never show anything other than the money!What kind of a sham is that they have goin on.
And doing things yourself gives you piece of mind in a place where most minds are working against you.Everytime this stuff happends to me I just shake my head and go and do things myself.After all we do things at home by our selves so whats new here.Then again who would beleave that the 5'0 90lb maganda gal would ever take advantage of you.RIGHT? THATS WRONG!
Just another story and page in the book of life.
ALSO THANKS TO SPAMHOG FOR GETTING ME HOOKED UP WITH A HOTEL IN CEBU!!!!
PLAY SAFE, B.B...
Fast Eddie 48
11-30-06, 08:58
I just receive a email from central hotel they told me they are full on first week of Jan 2007 and their new hotel pacific breeze will open on dec 1 2006
room start at $ 48 usd and $ 65 with jacuzzi , I am not sure is central hotel is
really full or they just want to upsell me .
http://www.pacificbreezehotel.com/news.php
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton].I have personaly had the worst two here in bed and they are nothing more than bar galls in a different uniform.They will tell you every lie in the world once they think the hook is set.
BB
You mean the front desk gals or some freelancers
Been there 8 days. The boy who showed me the room said "the fridge is broken" while it was simply unplugged instead. The remote control of cable TV had exausted batteries and did not work.They changed them only after my SECOND complain.The room has a kitchen basin, but it is useless as there is no tableware available and cooking is forbidden.There is a thick wooden safe box , but you must provide your own lock. The reception sold me a big one for 150 pesos.
The aircon unit is BIG indeed, but also noisy and too near the bed...unthinkable to sleep with aircon on , however you drive the air flow it will always bounce to your back.Impossible to hide under the blanket because the bed is too short for me (I am 1.85 tall) and must sleep with feet laying out.So unless you want to catch flu the only way is to put aircon on max for 15 mins so to cool the room a lot and then turn it off. Due to the fact the room has no window this will keep you cool enough to sleep until the morning.
I paid this hotel in advance by bank swift. I left beneficiary expenses charged to them because I know that otherways the foreign bank always inflates them (paid 400 baht for swift expenses to my bank anyway). So the hotel had a 300 pesos charge on their account, but instead of warning me by e-mail to refund them at my arrival, they simply booked 1 day less (which is 950 pesos) on their computer and said nothing. Had to discuss half an hour in reception where the lady actually tried to convince me that if I check in 21 (evening)and check out at 27(morning) that would be 7 days 21-22-23-24-25-26-27 ! UNBELIEVABLE ! Then another reception lady arrived and understood they had booked me 6 days only instead the 7 I had paid for. She asked me the receipt of my swift and I showed her the amount of 6,650 PHP = 950x7days. She said they had to check their bankbook and the morning after the qui-pro-quo was at last cleared paying the 300 pesos.
Now I have moved to Tiger which is a new hotel in Narciso Road. Charges the same amount for a standard room (950) and has water dispensers just out your room. This means you do not have to be ripped off 24 pesos for a 1 liter water bottle by the nearby 7-11 , also the dispenser provides hot water so you can make instant coffee (3in1 Nescafe' 10 doses boxes available at Clark Hipermarket for just 42 pesos).
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
FireWalker
12-01-06, 13:23
Been there 8 days. The boy who showed me the room said "the fridge is broken" while it was simply unplugged instead. The remote control of cable TV had exausted batteries and did not work.They changed them only after my SECOND complain.The room has a kitchen basin, but it is useless as there is no tableware available and cooking is forbidden.There is a thick wooden safe box , but you must provide your own lock. The reception sold me a big one for 150 pesos.
The aircon unit is BIG indeed, but also noisy and too near the bed...unthinkable to sleep with aircon on , however you drive the air flow it will always bounce to your back.Impossible to hide under the blanket because the bed is too short for me (I am 1.85 tall) and must sleep with feet laying out.So unless you want to catch flu the only way is to put aircon on max for 15 mins so to cool the room a lot and then turn it off. Due to the fact the room has no window this will keep you cool enough to sleep until the morning.
I paid this hotel in advance by bank swift. I left beneficiary expenses charged to them because I know that otherways the foreign bank always inflates them (paid 400 baht for swift expenses to my bank anyway). So the hotel had a 300 pesos charge on their account, but instead of warning me by e-mail to refund them at my arrival, they simply booked 1 day less (which is 950 pesos) on their computer and said nothing. Had to discuss half an hour in reception where the lady actually tried to convince me that if I check in 21 (evening)and check out at 27(morning) that would be 7 days 21-22-23-24-25-26-27 ! UNBELIEVABLE ! Then another reception lady arrived and understood they had booked me 6 days only instead the 7 I had paid for. She asked me the receipt of my swift and I showed her the amount of 6,650 PHP = 950x7days. She said they had to check their bankbook and the morning after the qui-pro-quo was at last cleared paying the 300 pesos.
Now I have moved to Tiger which is a new hotel in Narciso Road. Charges the same amount for a standard room (950) and has water dispensers just out your room. This means you do not have to be ripped off 24 pesos for a 1 liter water bottle by the nearby 7-11 , also the dispenser provides hot water so you can make instant coffee (3in1 Nescafe' 10 doses boxes available at Clark Hipermarket for just 42 pesos).
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
1. Why didn't you just make reservation with Credit Card or as in my case, just show up? I told you to pay for one night and see how you liked it.
2. You are in the Phils, you cry about a remote that you just had to take to front desk to exchange?
3. I told you about the security box, and told you to bring a lock.
4. A lot of hotel beds in AC are smaller at 1200-1600 pesos.
5. Where does it say anywhere that there are cooking facilities? Where was it suggested?
Dude, chill, there were guests who were rounded up and robbed a few months ago at another hotel. Other people have lost thousands of dollars in cash and laptops, etc. at other hotels.
And you are warning every one like this hotel is a rip-off place at 950 pesos? What is your problem? Is this your 1st time in a foreign country?
FireWalker
12-01-06, 13:39
That paragraph fully describes the only problem I had in AC. Some of these girls got so jealous when they saw me with other women that I felt unconfortable returning to their bar. After my first week I didn't hesitate to specify that my intention was to screw as many girls as I could and that I really was butterfly. Never got rejected because of that and avoided alot of headache.
Me and my girl in AC have a private joke where she calls me MR. BUTTERFLY.
She sends me cards with little butterflies on them. Try making a joke of it when you are in the bars. Introduce yourself as MR. BUTTERFLY, sometimes being so honest will make the girls laugh. If you make them laugh, you can get away with murder.
Also, a little tip. Always take girl home in a tryke and don't barhop with them. If you aren't seen with girls you don't ruin your future barfine pool. Also, be realistic. There are 110 bars in AC, why do you have to return to same bars so soon?
I, of course, never follow these rules because, of course, I am Mr. Butterfly!
FireWalker
12-01-06, 13:57
shadowj,
i enjoyed reading your report.
it is unlikely that the girl from blue nile (the 27 year old one) was a virgin even though she may have had the letter "v" on her id. the pi's is a corrupt place and getting a false id is too easy. there are also many ways for the girl to imitate a virgin with hymen and bleed and pretend to hurt etc. but that's an other story.
just to give you and idea of the corruption here is, many of the girls that are not quite the right age to be working in bars use their cousin's or sisters’ birth certificate to show they are old enough. then they get a bar id. that's all it takes and may be a few extra pesos.
the down fall is that if for any reason, the foreigner is caught with a girl that is believed to be under 18 by the police, then no matter how innocent he is, (i mean he met her in a bar and she had the right i.d. etc so he didn't know) the foreigner will find himself in trouble. fyi, the penalty in the pi’s for **** sex is life imprisonment (even though this is rarely practised). it usually ends up with a night or two (or longer) in jail and then a big pay out (bribe) of up to several thousand u.s.$$$$ to get out and be allowed on your airplane home. i personally know of several cases that happened to unknowing tourists. some times, this is used as a scam to get money off you and some times the girl and her boyfriend work in with the police and split the bribe. same happens in kenya and many other places.
just remember your rights in the pi's are not as they are back home. just because you are an american or european etc doesn’t mean shit here. beatings, torture and even gang style executions by police called "salvage" happen all the time even though you would have to have done something really bad like murder if that was to happen to you. just a word for the wise. if you get in trouble with the law in the pi's and you are a tourist without political connections, pay man just pay and be on your way. the alternative is not pretty. you have no rights here but you have money and it buys most anything in the pi's. sad but true.
any way back to your report, it sounds to me like you have everything under control and you don't need any tips.
good job.
enjoy.
funny thing is, there have been cases where girl has gotten false documentation to be ****, as well.
FireWalker
12-01-06, 14:02
Arrived yesterday evening at 10.00pm. Needed to buy some drinking water so walked out of my hotel (DM Residente). I suddenly realized the distances on the Balibago map were very small, so headed to Santos Street alias Blow Row and tried one of the girls. 600 pesos for a really well done blow job, done without any hurry and with nice CIM. The girl's name is Anna, she is rather cute and 18 years old.
Compared to Pattaya this place appears to be 25% less expensive, hotels apart. I am seriously considering leaving Pattaya and Thai Immigration crazyness to move here.
More details will follow next days.
Negotiate that price down to 500.
FireWalker
12-01-06, 14:05
http://www.rovimar.com/
Just in Santos Street opposite the bj bars I so much like, they are building a condominium complex. The only problem is the price : $ 65,000 for a studio! Have they mischanged Angeles City for Los Angeles in U.S.A.?
Tomorrow I head for Makati to get some info about RE there and stock brokers and Philippine Retirement Authority, then will go to see Cebu.
Also, you don't actually own these units. You only get use for (I think) 25 years.
Thank you for the hotel review Gaudente. This is exactly the kind of information we need. Don't let anyone discourage you.
Folks, if you go under 1000 pesos you should expect simple accomodations. I would also suggest you always familiarize yourself with the exits and escape routes. Fires, earthquakes, typhoons and blackouts happen. Pack a flash lite in that suitcase...
BTW, someone mentioned that an AC hotel was held up. That was America Hotel. The best feature is the pool. The service isn't so good, and so I suspect the management doesn't treat the staff well. The back rooms with balconies overlooking the pool can be quite nice, but nearly 3000 if I recall correctly. On the other hand, there is a windowless room on the ground floor just a few meters to the pool or restaurant for less than 1000.
X
1. Why didn't you just make reservation with Credit Card or as in my case, just show up? I told you to pay for one night and see how you liked it.
2. You are in the Phils, you cry about a remote that you just had to take to front desk to exchange?
3. I told you about the security box, and told you to bring a lock.
4. A lot of hotel beds in AC are smaller at 1200-1600 pesos.
5. Where does it say anywhere that there are cooking facilities? Where was it suggested?
Dude, chill, there were guests who were rounded up and robbed a few months ago at another hotel. Other people have lost thousands of dollars in cash and laptops, etc. at other hotels.
And you are warning every one like this hotel is a rip-off place at 950 pesos? What is your problem? Is this your 1st time in a foreign country?1) I reserved for 1 week because I read on this forum Philippines are not like Thailand and hotel occupancy expecially in high season is near 100%. I paid by bank swift because so the hotel management asked.
2) I do not cry, but I do not understand why they did not change the batteries first time they saw they were exausted.
3) I probably forgot. Anyway, until you see the box you do not know how large the lock must be.
4) A short bed remains a short bed whatever price you pay it. The bed in Tiger hotel is long enough instead.
5) Nowhere. Simply I do not understand why to have a basin inside bathroom and then another one in room unless you are given some tableware like a dish, a set of spoons , a tin opener. With such little investment the value of the room would significantly improve. Unless, of course, the fridge is declared "broken" as soon as you enter the room.
And finally, I am not saying this hotel is a rip-off, simply considering Tiger charges the same amount, is in an equivalent location and is overall better, I advice people to pick Tiger instead.
And if you read my original posts, you should know I have been living in a "foreign country" (Thailand)for 2 years.
I also suggest you to shop for food and whatever else at Clark Shopping Mall. It is just behind the jeepney terminal in Fields Avenue. You see a pedestrian long bridge, that is one of the entries. Inside you will find many shops, included National Book Store. You can buy a map of Angeles at 99 pesos there (also many other maps available).
On that map you can locate C Italian , near it is the publisher of Blue Book , a 5 pesos advertisement magazine with some useful info about real estate, hotels, bars and so on.
Most hotels in the PIs are very old and have many problems. But for the given price, you have to at least expect that, unless you go above 2000. For that price, you usually get a shady hotel room in the US with a 100 dollar crack ho with the Himalayas attitude. Pick one!
Bill Buxton
12-01-06, 23:05
Yes the answer to the question is freelancer could be,I think you call it get what you can while they are here.
The answer to the other statements here about hotels goes like this.I have paid 18,ooo a month here for absolute beechfront and 40,000 in Angeles for a socalled 4-5 star hotel.I have had the great experences at both.I would like to say the money factor is not the only reason for the monkey business.It is the attatude of the manager and the staff that makes a low priced hotel a great or fucked up place.Yes the price will have a direct factor in the equasion but should not be the entire reason behind the games played here.
The one gal here before talked about wanted to do my laundry so I opted to let her do it at a higher price than the hotel service was getting.She gave me back 2-3 sets of completed laundry one week and forgot to give back my gf's new pants.The logical reason was yes they are new,and her size, and she was thinking I would change the gal for another and no one would ever find out.This is a hell of a way to think.Another situation 2 night ago,the desk clerk was talking bad words in tagalog to a guests bf.The guests escort broke a glass and this was an accident! the fucking ***** at the desk thinking the gal was just a bar gal wanted to make the gal feel worse for the broken glass yacked at her and made her cry.The guest went in the room and checked out 5 minutes later.Like I said ,I have never seen anything like this hotel in my life!
B.B...
Fast Eddie 48
12-02-06, 00:03
Any one been to the new casino mimosa near the holiday inn , I think this is the best place in ac with over 300 room start at 85 usd a night near the airport .
I will be in AC on first week in jan 2007 planning to stay in the new pacific breeze hotel that opening this week own by the same people that run central
hotel , pm me if anyone like to meet for a drink or two .
fast eddie 48
Hey BB
Saw you at Marquis once, you're a good man!
Why still staying there after all that?
Touchdown in Clark after a quite bumby flight around 11.30am.
Then 12pm out of the airport and in the jeepney.
Some text and 1pm a extraordinary fine BBBJ with proper CIM.
Some rest with her, 2hrs later some boomboom, then shower, off she went with 800ps, now food and then starting with beers and so on..
Life can be so funtastic! :-)
Hehe.. Cheers!
I'm pretty tired now, so maybe I'm missing something obvious. Can anyone clue me in to exactly which hotel BB is slamming here?
X
The one gal here before talked about wanted to do my laundry so I opted to let her do it at a higher price than the hotel service was getting.She gave me back 2-3 sets of completed laundry one week and forgot to give back my gf's new pants.The logical reason was yes they are new,and her size, and she was thinking I would change the gal for another and no one would ever find out.This is a hell of a way to think.Another situation 2 night ago,the desk clerk was talking bad words in tagalog to a guests bf.The guests escort broke a glass and this was an accident! the fucking ***** at the desk thinking the gal was just a bar gal wanted to make the gal feel worse for the broken glass yacked at her and made her cry.The guest went in the room and checked out 5 minutes later.Like I said ,I have never seen anything like this hotel in my life!
B.B...
BB is venting his frustration on a couple of employees at the hotel. I doubt that BB wants to bring bad publicity to it, after all he's stayed there for 3 months now. Just like everywhere else, it has it good and bad side. I stayed there myself and believe me, sometimes I want to pull my hair out, but most folks there are decent and they do their jobs well and they desperately need it. Let's move on to another subject.
I'm pretty tired now, so maybe I'm missing something obvious. Can anyone clue me in to exactly which hotel BB is slamming here?
X
Marquis annex hotel , just read past posts. Get some rest.
Gee, thanks for the great info.
Marquis annex hotel , just read past posts. Get some rest.
Bill Buxton
12-05-06, 11:07
Just got back from Cebu and had a nice trip.The flight was excelent by cp,and the hotel was outstanding.As for thr prerecorded shit at Marquis just stay a while and find out for yourself.
B.B...
WickedWilly
12-06-06, 14:24
Expectations and travel plans.
Travel and Hotel
I flew from Jakarta to Singapore 1st class, then had to come down to earth and fly Tiger Air to Clark. The only real inconvenience was having to swap to the budget terminal, but this was no real hardship as although the terminal is small it is comfortable.
All flights where spot on time and the convenience of Clark to the action makes it one of the easiest airport to hotel trips there are. I was picked up by the hotel and within 15 minutes booking in the Wild Orchid Inn.
Then came the first glitch, they had booked me in a standard room rather than the Jacuzzi room. It was not until I showed them the email correspondence that they believed me, even so I still ended up spending my first night in the basic room. This was small, but furnished ok and had a terrace overlooking the pool.
When I got the Jacuzzi room the next day I was far happier as there was much more room, however if you do not want a jacuzzi, but still want the space and balcony overlooking the pool I would recommend you take the Veranda room. The price of both the larger rooms was US 89, but they gave me mine for US79 as the got my booking wrong.
The rooms had wired internet and there was free wi-fi in the bar-pool area, plus a free terminal in reception. The pool was great, with a swim up bar and 24 hour restaurant. Drinks and food were reasonable for a hotel too. The location could not be faulted, if you want to be right in the middle of Fields. Overall a great hotel, not 5* but very pleasant indeed, I would recommend it if u are not on a budget.
Expectations
Before going to AC I had certain expectations. I was not expecting to see many stunners as I had yet to see many photos that inspired me. I also expected lower hygiene standards from the girls than what I am used to.
What I was looking forward too was the friendliness and playfulness, having read about the lower costs I was planning to make this a numbers trip.
A really weird first date and the fried computer!
As I got in early evening I went straight out, I could not contact KM so I was on my own. My first port of call was Dollhouse, the standard of girls here was on par with my expectations - not great, plus the girls where so boring their dancing really was monotonous and did not seem like they were having fun. So I moved on to Camelot and a couple of other bars killing the next hour, but remained unimpressed by the quality of the girls, neither did I encounter any of the playfulness I had expected.
My first interesting port of call was the Blue Nile, I quite liked the layout, the moving stage and the girls were a notch or two better than previously. One girl caught my eye and was soon sitting on my lap. Mary was cute, certainly doable but it was too early to make my nights choice. I then tried to call KM but as I got up to get my phone saw him sitting behind me, a nice surprise!
KM was with two cute young girls, good taste as always. We soon departed as KM wanted introduce me to AC. Outside I made eye contact with one of KMs ladies and I must admit, felt a connection, kind of a weird sixth sense. Anyway, that passed in seconds and we were soon on my very first bar hop.
We did a few bars, KMs girls were great fun and seemed to be very into each other as well as KM. The other girls though were not at all to my taste and being impatient I started to get the feeling I would struggle here, after all I had left behind a good few uber hotties in Jakarta.
Still I was having fun and finally saw a pair of mammeries that got my pecker interested. We were in Brown Sugar (I think), Cheryl and Cherry Girl were getting really into each other and I was feeling a little like a gooseberry and this girl although not stunning had the assets I like and was attractive. Right from the start I got the impression this was not a raver, but I was not in a mood to look much more, so with reservations I bar fined my first AC babe. We stayed in Brown Sugar for a while, I got my first body shot and enjoyed watching Cherylan, Cherry Girl and Brown Sugar girl playing with each other. This was what I had envisaged AC being all about.
Feeling dead horny I left KM and his lovely ladies and took mine back to the hotel. On going in my girl was impressed by the pool and asked if we could go swimming, I was not sure if you could swim at night, but went with the flow. She ordered a costume and within 5 minutes were cuddling in the pool, thing turning out far better then expected. As we got more playful, she started to feel me up, this progressed to a major groping session and soon she was dragging me to the edge of the pool, taking down my trunks and pushing me inside her. I had not done this since I was a teenager and it felt wonderful. I must admit within 5 minutes I was nearly cumming and she had already come once, so I said lets go upstairs and finish things off, expecting now great things.
Upstairs, for a reason I will never understand things changed ….. dramatically. From being the wild girl, she turned into miss boring. First her BJ was lackluster and short, then as I went to enter her, she insisted on a condom. Now considering all I had read about AC and the fact we had just had sex in the pool without the mention of a condom, all at her instigation, I was very surprised, worse still she would not let me use my own, insisting on using hers. I tried it, but it was far to small, so much so she in the end let me get my own. I was now so horny I rushed to find them and in my haste knocked over a beer all over my new laptop, burning it out completely. As you will imagine I was now somewhat pissed off. I did try to pop my first load after that, but it was not happening so I gave up and went to sleep.
In the morning I was not in the mood for another session, especially as on checking my computer was definitely cream-crackered, so I let her go and decided to have an early workout. The photos of her a really not good, but will post them anyway.
WickedWilly
12-06-06, 14:26
Addition photos from day 1 AC
Bill Buxton
12-07-06, 00:08
the deals here are not as the seem and the gals are all so clever (or as they think)i went into la pasha and chatted up a waitress i know and she wanted to know why i never give her a bf.i said i have no good reason would you like a bf?she said yes i do want to go so i said change your uniform and lets go.before we got out the door another guy came into the bar and he stopped and looked her up and down.when we got outside she had to sign out with the desk and she told me she had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).i knew something was up so i said ok.i had her bag and when the door shut behind her i followed.
just as i had figured she was chatting up the guy that looked her over on her way out.i sat down and talked to another gal i have had there before and asked her if she wanted to spend some time with me ahe said why not lets go.i told her to change and i would be here waiting for her when she came out.by this time "the first clever gal" was just going to the cr.she never went in, just looked at the door and turned around and heading to the front door to find me.she spotted me sitting down in the dark corner and came over and asked me if i was ready to go and i said not yet my love.by this time the other was changed and walking our way.the other waitresses informed the first gal "the one playing games" that she was going nowhere and was gonna be serving drinks because ann the other gal had the man and was going bf with him(me).the first gal looked at me said nothing and headed over and "talked and pointed at me" to the guy she knew that had just walked in.after 1 minute she was off to the back room again and the guy got up and left and myself and my gal were on our way out also.
these stupid girls can not help themselves and everytime they start making monkeybusiness they get caught,every time! is this good thay we know what they are doing? yes,is if fun for myself or others here staying a long time to have this shit happen on a regular basis,no.thats why get a gals number that you like and keep it.after a while you can have some regulars and have good nights whenever you want.
i am returning to the us again in 2 days and heading back here in 2 weeks.i hope the stock here is replaced with some fresh faces.
play safe,stay sharp.
b.b...
Before we got out the door another guy came into the bar and he stopped and looked her up and down...Sorry Billy, I don't get it. Was it jealosy which made you change the gals or you suspected a double barfine attempt? I mean you only saw the gal talking with that guy. He might have been a previous customer or anything else. You had your ego disturbed? OK, I must admit that you would have risked the following scenario: the girl go with you, give quick shitty service and then back in the bar for the second round. You still had the fuck.
Of course, she lied to you regarding the CR thing and I would have done the same as you. I don't like liers.
Last trip to AC this November I BF a girl in Heartbreakers. It was early and so I decided to let her make a couple of extra LDs in the bar while a do some further barhoping and pick her up latter. I came back in less than 1 hour and by chance I saw her going to Swiss Challett with another monger. She did not observed me. I went inside the bar and the mamasan came to me telling some bullshit that the girl had an emergency etc. I told her to cut the crap and asked for by money back which she did. But nevertheless she co ntinued to say that what I seen was not a monger but another gal. Hilarious!
what do you think your getting in a bar-fine - mother theresa?
the deals here are not as the seem and the gals are all so clever (or as they think)i went into la pasha and chatted up a waitress i know and she wanted to know why i never give her a bf.i said i have no good reason would you like a bf?she said yes i do want to go so i said change your uniform and lets go.before we got out the door another guy came into the bar and he stopped and looked her up and down.when we got outside she had to sign out with the desk and she told me she had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).i knew something was up so i said ok.i had her bag and when the door shut behind her i followed.
just as i had figured she was chatting up the guy that looked her over on her way out.i sat down and talked to another gal i have had there before and asked her if she wanted to spend some time with me ahe said why not lets go.i told her to change and i would be here waiting for her when she came out.by this time "the first clever gal" was just going to the cr.she never went in, just looked at the door and turned around and heading to the front door to find me.she spotted me sitting down in the dark corner and came over and asked me if i was ready to go and i said not yet my love.by this time the other was changed and walking our way.the other waitresses informed the first gal "the one playing games" that she was going nowhere and was gonna be serving drinks because ann the other gal had the man and was going bf with him(me).the first gal looked at me said nothing and headed over and "talked and pointed at me" to the guy she knew that had just walked in.after 1 minute she was off to the back room again and the guy got up and left and myself and my gal were on our way out also.
these stupid girls can not help themselves and everytime they start making monkeybusiness they get caught,every time! is this good thay we know what they are doing? yes,is if fun for myself or others here staying a long time to have this shit happen on a regular basis,no.thats why get a gals number that you like and keep it.after a while you can have some regulars and have good nights whenever you want.
i am returning to the us again in 2 days and heading back here in 2 weeks.i hope the stock here is replaced with some fresh faces.
play safe,stay sharp.
b.b...
Bill Buxton
12-07-06, 22:39
1 out of every 10 bf's is actually worth a great the rest are yes just a fuck.I guess some of us like a quiet nite of dinner tv and some chit chat.Mabey some of you enjoy just a fuck.Me I like a full night of all of the above,right?wrong?who knows.
Key Master
12-08-06, 03:16
There is a tendency in asia where alot of people would rather lie to you than disappoint you. So if a woman doesn't want to get you upset by talking to a regular of hers after you barfined her, then she might lie to you given he wants to talk to her. I personally wouldn't trip with that, but that's me. But if you worried about her trying to short time you, I might make it clear with her and the mamasan before leaving what the expectations are. When I leave a girl I've barfined at the bar, I make it clear don't go with another man before I come back. If she were to break that, for sure I'd drop her and ask for my barfine back. But I think I know the game and know that the girls have other customers and that's life.
I posted this request on a different thread, but maybe someone can held me here.
Does anyone know of a good dentist an in A/C. I will be there in a few months and would like to have my teeth whitened. Also, any experience with pricing.
I want to do it in A/C becasue I will be there the majority of my trip.
Thank you.
Girlfinder
12-09-06, 06:25
...a good dentist an in A/C. ....would like to have my teeth whitened. Also, any experience with pricing. ...
Be aware, on Fields Av. 80 (ca.) a dentist asked 20.000 Peso for teeth withening. I declined and told it was cheaper back home. Maybe they keep extreme prices since only foreigners use them, and with these prices hardly any customer at all.
Billpsu
Best thing is to ask the expats or the hotel staff and such in AC. I tried this forum before and got no helpful response.
I tried the Bonifacio dental office located inside a supermarket, on a side street, near Mr Frosty on Fields. The office is very clean and modern with helpful staffs. The dentists are husband and wife. The wife did most of the work on me, not teeth whitening, it was average. The husband seems more knowledgable but was there for a little because he has another branch. I would prefer to have things worked on by the husband, but I would not recommend this to you because there might be others better in AC
Bill Buxton
12-11-06, 05:15
I paid 15 thousand 9 months ago for the impression and the peroxide surenge in the kit.This is cheeper than at home and I also had some other dental work done at a cost of 52000.0-P with the kit included.This is much cheeper than at home.Yes guys 1000 dollars is what it would have cost for 1 tooth!
The dentist I used was a lady in baretto her name is capoulie and she is on the main street before the bic internet.There is also a dentist off mc carther hw going twords the rob-mall the building sets off the road and has white pillars.She has the second floor for her practice.I do not know the gals name and 2 of my friends have seen her and thought she was great.Good luck and 20 thousand is the same price for laser white treatment in the subic area I was quoted the same price months before.I am sure it is much higher in the states than 400.00 us dollars.
B.B...
Bill Buxton
12-11-06, 05:41
AMERICA HOTEL,PREMIER HOTEL AND ONE OTHER HOTEL in the area have had trouble in the office.I am telling you the trouble comes in the way of stolen securety boxes.They are smarter than to go room to room and get cash they just get the front desk securety boxes one time.SUNSET GARDEN is the other hotel.
You must be very careful here guys I trust street hustlers more than hotel staff in most cases.Why would you be so trusting to a hotel gal and not a bar gal? Is it because the bar gal works in a bad or seedy inviornment?what about the rat in a uniform looking like she is nice at the hotel.DO NOT TRUST ANYONE JUST BECAUSE THEY DRESS OR LOOK RESPECTABLE HERE!
Thats the art of the deal at work.These people will do,say,act in way that will fool other scammers from other countries.I am sorry all the foreign people here are honest and nice,THATS ANOTHER STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY.
Anyway remember the holidays are fast upon us and the clock is ticking so beware.
B.B...
I paid 15 thousand 9 months ago for the impression and the peroxide surenge in the kit.This is cheeper than at home and I also had some other dental work done at a cost of 52000.0-P with the kit included.This is much cheeper than at home.Yes guys 1000 dollars is what it would have cost for 1 tooth!
The dentist I used was a lady in baretto her name is capoulie and she is on the main street before the bic internet.There is also a dentist off mc carther hw going twords the rob-mall the building sets off the road and has white pillars.She has the second floor for her practice.I do not know the gals name and 2 of my friends have seen her and thought she was great.Good luck and 20 thousand is the same price for laser white treatment in the subic area I was quoted the same price months before.I am sure it is much higher in the states than 400.00 us dollars.
B.B...
Hi,
I checked a local dentist last time, she is neighbour of my filipina fren and she quoted me for extract teeth 100 p, for new bridge, 17 000 p. she is helding lectures at University and told me sh dont quote more for foreigners.
Another one can be found either savers mall or robisnon I forgot, but I post the adress once Im there in Ac next week. The dentist clientle gathers other dentists from Ac, so he should be more then ok if other dentist go there for treatment.
America hotel had problems before. sungarden suprise me, seems there must be a gang doing this. I never used safedepositbox, I cary my plastic with me and draw on ATm. Dont wear any rings, and have a small sized cam casio exilim somewhere placed in my suitcase which I have the key. never get robbed in AC. I stay always in woodland park, europhil or DM residente.
I keep a low profile and stay sharp, cause its christmas and that he time where evrybody needs money and you have to watch out for scam alert!!!!
Happy hunting!!
Ps i would never stay in a place like america hotel. Looks like a dump to me, just my 2 cents :D
Hello guys,
anyone barfined a gurl from this club?? Hope I spelled the name korek.Its near the place where the former Cleopatra had been (wow if I remember those gud old times)
I fly next week there and last time I walk in there only the really ugly guls made eycontact, while the cuties cater to asian clientle and I wonder if ever one of you guys succeed in barfining a girl here and whats ur experiance, cause even they are stuck up , some of themI would like to barfine, cause they have some gud lookin gurls over there. Please post/share your experiance with me and the rest of us.
Anyone???
PM`s are also welcome
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
I was quoted about the same amount ($400) for whitening here in the states.
E=Bill Buxton]I paid 15 thousand 9 months ago for the impression and the peroxide surenge in the kit.This is cheeper than at home and I also had some other dental work done at a cost of 52000.0-P with the kit included.This is much cheeper than at home.Yes guys 1000 dollars is what it would have cost for 1 tooth!
The dentist I used was a lady in baretto her name is capoulie and she is on the main street before the bic internet.There is also a dentist off mc carther hw going twords the rob-mall the building sets off the road and has white pillars.She has the second floor for her practice.I do not know the gals name and 2 of my friends have seen her and thought she was great.Good luck and 20 thousand is the same price for laser white treatment in the subic area I was quoted the same price months before.I am sure it is much higher in the states than 400.00 us dollars.
B.B...[/QUOTE]
Hey Blink,
You are right that Agasya has some real lookers. When I was there last week, I only poked my head in to see if a certain person was working there. If you don't like the vibe there, why not head over to their sister club "Las Vegas", just down the street. Both clubs are owned by the same Korean guy. Check out their model show at 9:00 pm nightly. They have some real nice tall model types that can be had for $1500. Please PM me for more info.
Have a great trip!
Bill Buxton
12-14-06, 01:10
You can spend 3000-p in dollhouse for a featured dancer but why would you do that.There are many great looking gals in many other bars where the bf is 1000-p
The dollhouse is asking 1300-p for a bf and that is more than most other fields ave bars.This is just giving a bar more than it needs to operate.I have never visited a bar here where every gal was ugly! there was at least 1 good looking gal in the bar!Take your time and visit the bar don't be in a rush and relax get the gal that is good for you every time.Never be shy to ask the gal what she will do in the service dept.They are not 70 year old school teachers come on!!!
And another thing the GAL IS NOT GETTING ALL THE MONEY FOR THE BARFINE! Get some numbers and give out your number they will call! They all wake up and want money befort they start work starting at 10-am.My phone jumps off the dresser and will not stop every day until 3-4 pm.They all love the 500-p daytime meeting before the bar opens.Just take advantage of the great deals here.AND ALSO BEWARE OF THE SCAMMS AND SHIT HERE ALSO.
After all there is more pussy here than anyother place so why be in a rush they are going nowhere!
PLAY SAFER,BE SMART.
B.B...
Fastpiston
12-14-06, 08:39
You can spend 3000-p in dollhouse for a featured dancer but why would you do that.There are many great looking gals in many other bars where the bf is 1000-p
The dollhouse is asking 1300-p for a bf and that is more than most other fields ave bars.This is just giving a bar more than it needs to operate.I have never visited a bar here where every gal was ugly! there was at least 1 good looking gal in the bar!Take your time and visit the bar don't be in a rush and relax get the gal that is good for you every time.Never be shy to ask the gal what she will do in the service dept.They are not 70 year old school teachers come on!!!
And another thing the GAL IS NOT GETTING ALL THE MONEY FOR THE BARFINE! Get some numbers and give out your number they will call! They all wake up and want money befort they start work starting at 10-am.My phone jumps off the dresser and will not stop every day until 3-4 pm.They all love the 500-p daytime meeting before the bar opens.Just take advantage of the great deals here.AND ALSO BEWARE OF THE SCAMMS AND SHIT HERE ALSO.
After all there is more pussy here than anyother place so why be in a rush they are going nowhere!
PLAY SAFER,BE SMART.
B.B...
If it is true Dollhouse charges 3000P barfine, suggest all mongers WALK BY and go to another bar along the road. That level of barfine is a very bad precedent.
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