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This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD
Member #2234
12-17-09, 10:27
This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD
whereabouts is that John?
Member #2234
12-17-09, 10:29
Wendella m8, it is the festival near to the Ng Thi Minh Khai end, all BLUE building and has a restaurant downstairs aswell
That room looks familiar hahaha.
I went for a ride around that area and found around another 6-8 more. I'll have to drop into each one and see what they have to offer.
This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD
MutantChicken
12-17-09, 13:44
That room looks familiar hahaha.
I went for a ride around that area and found around another 6-8 more. I'll have to drop into each one and see what they have to offer.I have created a monster your addicted to the FS MP now!
This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JDJohn,
Where is it, exactly, and what is its name. Going to be there in about 45 days, and would like to check it out. Also would like to buy you some drinks and thank you for all your beautiful pictures and Artwork! Let me know if it can be arranged, as I feel I owe you one.
Thanks
Hi guys,
I have been reading through this forum and got the impression, that unlike BKK, MPs offering extras in HCMC are fairly rare and hit and miss.
Would someone in the know pls contribute a list of reliable / reputable FS MPs with adresses?
I understand that traditional VN MPs always offer a HJ ("What is a massage without a HE")
I don't mind paying well for good service, but don't want to risk diappointment.
I am sure, that a whole generation of first time VN visitors like me would be eternally grateful!
DS
This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
That's no MP room, it looks more like your bed room to me. And how do i know this, you have your picture with the sexy girl on top of your bed! SHOW OFF!! LOL!!
I have created a monster your addicted to the FS MP now!
hahah Yup, your the one to blame mate.
I had been trying to find these places for close to 2yrs.
The 2nd MP we went to, if you continue further down you will see about another 5-6 MP's. If you turn right and "go around the block" back to the first one there are more. It seems to be a concentration of them. One place I went past guys were getting actual hair cuts.....
Phantomtiger2
12-19-09, 01:17
This is the 'massage' room at a typical FS MP in HCMC. Also has ensuite bathroom.
JD
This MP room was better than most hotel rooms I had in the past, wonder if I could stay here all night instead. ha ha
PT
MutantChicken
12-21-09, 19:38
hahah Yup, your the one to blame mate.
I had been trying to find these places for close to 2yrs.
The 2nd MP we went to, if you continue further down you will see about another 5-6 MP's. If you turn right and "go around the block" back to the first one there are more. It seems to be a concentration of them. One place I went past guys were getting actual hair cuts.After a few positive reviews on the barber shops from guys I introduced them earlier I decided to try them again. I was told there was a gal nmed vy that gave a porn star experience we are talking about anal and gagging BJ etc so I decided to check her out. She looked ok a little bit older and a little bit curvier but unfortunately she was with a customer. HE HCMC MIK does she have a big hairy mole on ther arm?
I had a bit of a frosty welcome because I spoke better vietnamese and I didn't look like the usual customers, they thought I might be police. Apparently the boss doenst welcome local vietnamese, more due to possible crackdown rather than any racist elements though it wouldn't suprise me if it was also partly true. So after I showed that I wasnt a local I was shown the entire selection, it was a Monday and apparently many girl take the day off, I chose a young girl named trang. She looked quite good but upon closer expection had a few minor flaws but perfectly acceptable, she looks better than the pic posted by the samster who used toads services. She was very accomdating nice deep BJ, allowed me to finger her even play with her ass, but because it was so tight I didn't fuck her. After round one I convinced her to get another condom and go again. All up I w sthere 1. 5 hrs and hence was chaged 150k for the shop rooms, it 100k per hr, if you go over the hr you pay extra. I then told the girl that because she was so accomadating id give her a higher tip than the uual 400k, I gave her 500k, she complained a little bit that I went two times so it was a higher tip. I stuck to my guns and left, she complained in a funway and it wasnt mood destroying, she told me that she made 2 mill a day, thats 50-60mill a month, so don't start overpaying thinking these girls are poor, they make 10-20times the monthly salary.
By the way I drove around and saw at least another 6 shops, some with cute girls seen from the outside. In summary its good service, attractive girls for a cost of 400k tip and 100k to the shop for 1 hr room hire.
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She looked ok a little bit older and a little bit curvier but unfortunately she was with a customer. HE HCMC MIK does she have a big hairy mole on ther arm?
Yes, thats her. a large brown birthmark/mole on her forearm. Didn't see any hair though. Isn't it supposed to be good luck to have a hairy mole? Her curves are great, makes a change from the skinny ones. "More cushion for the pushin"
I had a bit of a frosty welcome because I spoke better vietnamese and I didn't look like the usual customers,
Thats because your not a "round eye" or "hap-moon (half moon) round eye"/korean LOL
To avoid stepping on the toes of the regulars who live in the area, I want to make a suggestion to anyone going to to Southern Vietnam on vacation.
A business that offers steam bath/sauna/massage almost always equates to a happy ending for negotiated tip.
As far as I'm concerned, you should tip what you like in tourist areas. Locals should be able to fend for themselves in the other areas. That said, you'd be silly to give the 500,000 they automatically ask. Locals and even asians from other countries never pay that much. They're used to cheap massa.
200,000 will be taken by most, just tell them you're okay without the extra service and they'll cave for the tip. That said, I found a better tip gets better service.
Q
MutantChicken
01-04-10, 05:15
To avoid stepping on the toes of the regulars who live in the area, I want to make a suggestion to anyone going to to Southern Vietnam on vacation.
A business that offers steam bath/sauna/massage almost always equates to a happy ending for negotiated tip.
As far as I'm concerned, you should tip what you like in tourist areas. Locals should be able to fend for themselves in the other areas. That said, you'd be silly to give the 500,000 they automatically ask. Locals and even asians from other countries never pay that much. They're used to cheap massa.
200,000 will be taken by most, just tell them you're okay without the extra service and they'll cave for the tip. That said, I found a better tip gets better service.
QYes indeed why pay 500k when you can get full sex for 500k, further why tip 200k when 100k is the accepted norm, unless you are a total idiot who believes spending money is the only way to buy acceptance, and yes it is normal tip 100k in tourit areas, its just the girl expect 200k from stupid tourists.
Felix Sing
01-04-10, 06:32
Though there are many places you can get much cheaper services outside of d1, but some like me who visit hcmc once or twice a year tend to be worried about the safety and transportion. So most of us just have to be happy with tourist prices.._-
A sex tour operator (AKA toad service) is taking advantage of this to provide access to these local places. After failing to promote his services on sbf with clones, he's now spamming in youtuB. Saying it'll get you local prices, but from how I see it, he's trying to ripped off people. Example; 800k for FS massage service (based on other fr here, it should be 500-600k) + 400k for his transport service, that's 1. 2m for a FS. Which is about the same price you can get in d1 without all the hassle of travelling.
I recall he used one of MC fr in his forum, posing one of his client. Anyone thinking of taking up his service do beware.
I won't quote them, you can see their comments below.
First to Mutant: Mutant, I consider you a good Forum friend and a fellow value-conscious monger in the same vein as myself. I think Quinten's report was accurately and respectfully written, although I don't fully agree with him. Your response to him tough was a bit harsh (bad day?) in my view. Quinten is right when he writes that he doesn't want to step on our toes and that those in tourist areas should tip what they like. It really does not affect us because we don't monger in those tourist areas. VN can be a difficult and intimidating place at first, even for experienced mongers in Asia.
To Quinten: Thanks for your effort. Yes, 100k is the standard tip in the central area of HCMC for a CIM BBBJ. A bit away from the center it is more like 50 or 60k. In tourist areas in the core center it is whatever tourists and the unadventurous want to pay, 500k, 250k whatever.
The Meaning of a Tip: A tip is not a fee nor a charge. Tips can not be negotiated in advance. That would be a fee or a charge. For example, in the USA, restaurant customers are expected to add a tip to the bill for service. This is typically 15% of the bill. In places where this is already added to the bill, such as at certain hotels and restaurants here in HCMC, it's referred to as a service charge, not a tip. A tip is something added after, for good or acceptable service. You can not negotiate a tip beforehand in order to receive better service. You can negotiate a higher fee or charge and hope to get better service for it.
In Vietnam in general, providers asking for money to perform a service such as HJ or BJ during/after massage is not normal. This may come as a surprise to many of you because you may always be asked. That's because you are not going to 'normal' places but to those 'special' places that cater to tourists and newbies who don't know or understand (or maybe they don't care) what's up.
Added to the above, I don't believe that the girls who are working in these places where the bosses allow (encourage?) them ask exorbitant fees in advance are allowed to keep all this money. I think it is a way for the big cheeses to earn high profits at the expense of the girls, and that's why many of the best providers work at standard places where they actually keep all their tips (100k per customer).
JD
MutantChicken
01-05-10, 07:42
I won't quote them, you can see their comments below.
First to Mutant: Mutant, I consider you a good Forum friend and a fellow value-conscious monger in the same vein as myself. I think Quinten's report was accurately and respectfully written, although I don't fully agree with him. Your response to him tough was a bit harsh (bad day?) in my view. Quinten is right when he writes that he doesn't want to step on our toes and that those in tourist areas should tip what they like. It really does not affect us because we don't monger in those tourist areas. VN can be a difficult and intimidating place at first, even for experienced mongers in Asia.
To Quinten: Thanks for your effort. Yes, 100k is the standard tip in the central area of HCMC for a CIM BBBJ. A bit away from the center it is more like 50 or 60k. In tourist areas in the core center it is whatever tourists and the unadventurous want to pay, 500k, 250k whatever.
The Meaning of a Tip: A tip is not a fee nor a charge. Tips can not be negotiated in advance. That would be a fee or a charge. For example, in the USA, restaurant customers are expected to add a tip to the bill for service. This is typically 15% of the bill. In places where this is already added to the bill, such as at certain hotels and restaurants here in HCMC, it's referred to as a service charge, not a tip. A tip is something added after, for good or acceptable service. You can not negotiate a tip beforehand in order to receive better service. You can negotiate a higher fee or charge and hope to get better service for it.
In Vietnam in general, providers asking for money to perform a service such as HJ or BJ during/after massage is not normal. This may come as a surprise to many of you because you may always be asked. That's because you are not going to 'normal' places but to those 'special' places that cater to tourists and newbies who don't know or understand (or maybe they don't care) what's up.
Added to the above, I don't believe that the girls who are working in these places where the bosses allow (encourage?) them ask exorbitant fees in advance are allowed to keep all this money. I think it is a way for the big cheeses to earn high profits at the expense of the girls, and that's why many of the best providers work at standard places where they actually keep all their tips (100k per customer).
JDYes maybe I am having a bad day or bad year. My whole point is even in d1, the whole group of massage places found there are not created purely for tourists and foreigners. Many local people go there as well, and they also tip 100k for a HJ, its just that girls kno that if they whine and whinge and make sad faces etc, foreigners will tip more. Its fake emotional response. Its not like 100k isn't enuff. All you need to do is say its not enuff and the atm will spit out more money.
Don't mistake, fake emotions with real unhappyness. Eg tip 100k = whineing but they will still ask you to see them again, tip 50k and they will refuse to see you and give you bad service if forced, tip 200k and they think sucker!
Take my comments as you will, but why pay 200k when 100k gets you the same service and some respect for knowing local pices.
Hi Felix, I don't understand what you mean when you say this:
I recall he used one of MC fr in his forum, posing one of his client. Anyone thinking of taking up his service do beware.
what is "MC fr"?
which forum?
Felix Sing
01-05-10, 08:21
Hi Felix, I don't understand what you mean when you say this:
What is "MC fr"?
which forum?Sorry for any confusion. MC = MutantChicken
This was his original FR:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967772&postcount=267
The toad service uses his fr on their website forum.
Guys something 2 share!
After a few positive reviews on full service barber shops from ah sam, i decided to try them. I was told there was a gal nmed vy that gave a porn star experience we are talking about anal and gagging bj etc so i decided to check her out. She looked ok a little bit older and a little bit curvier but unfortunately she was with a customer. I had a bit f a frosty welcome because i spoke better vietnamese and i didnt look like the usual customers, the thought i might be police. Apparently the boss doenst welcome local vietnamese, more due to possible crackdown rather than any racist elements though it wouldnt suprise me if it was also partly true. So after i showed that i wasnt a local i was shown the entire selection, it was a monday and apparently many giake the day off, i chose a young girl named trang...she looked quite good but upon closer expection had a few minor flaws but perfectly acceptable, she looks great!!
She was very accomdatong nice deep bbbj, allowed me to finger her even play with her asshole, but because it was so tight i didnt fuck her. Afetr round one i convinced her to get another condom and go again. All up i was there 1.5 hrs and hence was chaged 150k for the shop rooms, it 100k per hr, if u go over the hr u pay extra. I then told the girl that because she was so accomadating id give her a higher tip than the uual 700k, i gave her 800k, she complained a little bit that i went two times so it was a higher tip. I stuck to my guns and left, she complained in afunway and it wasnt mood destroying, she told me that she made 2 mill a day, thats 50-60mill a month, so dont start overpaying thinking these girls are poor, they make 10-20times the monthly salary.
By the way i went around and saw at least another 6 shops, some with cute girls seen from the outside. In summary its godo service, attractive girls for a cost of 700k tip and 100k to the shop for 1 hr room hire.Taken from http://n2.nabble.com/Fuck-Shop-Massage-tp4226054p4226054.html
Hi Felix,
I don't understand what you mean when you say this:
What is "MC fr"?
Which forum?Mutant Chicken Field Report?
MutantChicken
01-05-10, 20:09
Sorry for any confusion. MC = MutantChicken
This was his original FR:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967772&postcount=267
The toad service uses his fr on their website forum.
Taken from http://n2.nabble.com/Fuck-Shop-Massage-tp4226054p4226054.htmlMan the guy just cut and paste my report, change it to the price he wants to charge and puts my name, even keeping my typos.
Man the guy just cut and paste my report, change it to the price he wants to charge and puts my name, even keeping my typos.
yeah i had a look and left a few messages. Sounds like he's catering to "mummy's boys" who are too scared to get out and have a look for themselves.
People like that deserved to get ripped off. Same thing with touts in BKK on Suk with their fliers of girls. If you go with a tout expect to be ripped off.
Felix Sing
01-06-10, 00:43
He's preying on the insecurity of newbies. I doubt he has as much business as he claims, but posting them on youtube seems to be getting other nations attention.
What really puts me off is that he uses his client face, think this poor chap had no idea he's on youtuB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_TKZpHBkw
HCMC Massage. The flower on the table was her idea, her pose. Sitting on the bed next to the towel was my idea. Later I had the idea to pose another one next to my condoms and lube, so there was no doubt about what we were there for. The main things that got massaged here were her tonsils and cervix. No nudes or fuck pics.
JD
HCMC Massage. The flower on the table was her idea, her pose. Sitting on the bed next to the towel was my idea. Later I had the idea to pose another one next to my condoms and lube, so there was no doubt about what we were there for. The main things that got massaged here were her tonsils and cervix. No nudes or fuck pics.
JD
You post pictures of the most beautiful girls on all the SE Asia boards. Thanks for blessing the board with this most generous offering. I normally don’t do kudos post but this girl is simply stunning.
Sorry for any confusion. MC = MutantChicken
This was his original FR:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967772&postcount=267
The toad service uses his fr on their website forum.
Taken from http://n2.nabble.com/Fuck-Shop-Massage-tp4226054p4226054.html
I guess anyone who spots one of his unscrupulous posts promoting his business should let people there know who he is and what he's about. I got a PM from a guy who said he'd posted pics of his friends that he took when they were out together and put those on the site, did that without permission and against their wishes. Obviously this is a really bad guy. People deserve to hear the truth. To continue with the terrible behavior he showed on that other forum, even after everyone was complaining about it very loudly, and also the bad behavior on his site, it seems he must have some mental problems that make him always want to get attention by behaving badly, cheating people and treating people disrespectfully.
Felix Sing
01-06-10, 07:17
I guess anyone who spots one of his unscrupulous posts promoting his business should let people there know who he is and what he's about. I got a PM from a guy who said he'd posted pics of his friends that he took when they were out together and put those on the site, did that without permission and against their wishes. Obviously this is a really bad guy. People deserve to hear the truth. To continue with the terrible behavior he showed on that other forum, even after everyone was complaining about it very loudly, and also the bad behavior on his site, it seems he must have some mental problems that make him always want to get attention by behaving badly, cheating people and treating people disrespectfully.I do think he has a mental issue, split personality maybe. In this vid you can see his client obviously didn't want to be in the vid even warning him, but he just kept finding chances to take shot of the face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV3LC1KHeO0
BTW this shop is Tulip or Rose?
Perhaps we can make a booking. Then we can have a "sit down"
Hopefully we can teach him how to write his own english stories
MutantChicken
01-06-10, 18:11
Has anyone seen any MP girls (or bar girls or any other available Vietnamese girls) recently with larger than average boobs? I will be going there in March and want schtick the schlonger between some shapely Asian orbs :) D Cups, preferably..slim 'n stacked! :) Thanks!Yeah I have seen lots, and it only cost me 300k with photos.
looks like our replies have been deleted. I've been blocked from replying now.
Felix Sing
01-07-10, 01:19
looks like our replies have been deleted. I've been blocked from replying now.Ya, he's been deleting and pretending nothing happen. He seems to enjoy using his own clone to say he's a gangster, which I think he's a nut case.
Can't we just ignore Nibbler and Ah Sam and his site and bogus game? Why is it so interesting that so many have to comment? Does anyone have any real experiences or pictures they would like to post? It seems that fakers and liars on this forum can draw endless interest but real stuff? Ahhh, so so. . . . Intelligent, California Son. . . etc. . . Ah Sam. . . . fascinating, just fabulous.
JD
MutantChicken
01-07-10, 10:42
Can't we just ignore Nibbler and Ah Sam and his site and bogus game? Why is it so interesting that so many have to comment? Does anyone have any real experiences or pictures they would like to post? It seems that fakers and liars on this forum can draw endless interest but real stuff? Ahhh, so so.... Intelligent, California Son... Etc... Ah Sam.... Fascinating, just fabulous.
JDJohn,
The reasons I find it necessary to bring up the issue of ah sam and his bullshit is the fact that I believe that this forumn is designed to inform and educate the masses regarding what to do AND what to avoid. And whilst I ahve in the past tried do my bit regarding locations an pricing, I'm frustrated with idiot who decide that its their right t use my information and then ruin my playground, as such I have decided not to inform, but I still think that I can do good my warning others of dodgy practic in VN.
I am not a fan of taking pictures I don't mind being a voyeur however and please continue with your great work.
I do think he has a mental issue, split personality maybe. In this vid you can see his client obviously didn't want to be in the vid even warning him, but he just kept finding chances to take shot of the face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV3LC1KHeO0
BTW this shop is Tulip or Rose?
they took it down.... Is there another vid? What cross street is it on?
Chocha Monger
01-07-10, 12:02
HCMC Massage. The flower on the table was her idea, her pose. Sitting on the bed next to the towel was my idea. Later I had the idea to pose another one next to my condoms and lube, so there was no doubt about what we were there for. The main things that got massaged here were her tonsils and cervix. No nudes or fuck pics.
JD
Johndao,
You always find the gems in Vietnam, first pretty Thao and now this beauty. I'm sure the ISG Lurkers are stumbling over each other to find her, and show her the photos on here hoping that she will feel so indebted that she will accept their marriage proposals and visa sponsorship. :D
Felix Sing
01-07-10, 12:31
they took it down. Is there another vid? What cross street is it on?He took out the chap in the vid. Here's the updated one
http://www.YoutuB.com/watch? V=MOhvSam3VjE
Based on the list made by Singapore bros, this should be the address
7A, Giai Phong Street, Ward 4, Tan Binh District, Ho Chi Minh City
Maybe MC, Mik or the senior bros can confirm the address.
He took out the chap in the vid. Here's the updated one
http://www.YoutuB.com/watch? V=MOhvSam3VjE
link dosn't work.
Felix Sing
01-08-10, 01:02
link dosn't work.maybe there's an error in the copy & paste. It should be youtube not youtub. Anyway just search "sex shop hcm" in youtube, you should be able to find.
link dosn't work.Here is the correct link
http://www.youtuB.com/watch?v=MOhvSam3VjE
change "B." to "be."
Samurai Life
01-08-10, 05:03
Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards
MutantChicken
01-08-10, 09:57
Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regardsPlease remove addresses from your post as I don't want the polie and idiots from ruining the premisies, this should be kept relatively discrete.
Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards
I agree 100%. I've not posted the address in the forum nor will I ever do so. These places are where I go now.
It took me almost 2yrs to learn about these fine establishments and I don't want people shitting in my backyard.
I agree 100%. I've not posted the address in the forum nor will I ever do so. These places are where I go now.
It took me almost 2yrs to learn about these fine establishments and I don't want people shitting in my backyard.
I can understand your quandary (mik & Samurai Life), but withholding information about these areas defeats the whole purpose of these forums. Aren't we all here to educate are self's about the wonders of HCMC? Do we not all appreciate the time a member post a review or promotes a new location for mongering? And YES, there are many many unscrupulous individuals out there. But why punish everyone? When an individual post a request or PMs you, don't just blatantly ignore them. Consider there position, a) do they contribute to the forum regularly? b) what are their contributions?
One of the predominant impressions i get from you is "isolationism". Your ideology can only be detrimental to yourself and this forum. In doing so, you limit the influx of information on this site. Many of your post are reviews about experiences, but yet you are unwilling to provide the location of these establishments. I fail to see your logic there. I hope that you find some wisdom by understanding all sides of the situation at hand. To take into account special circumstances in which you perceive is morally justified may not be right for this given situation.
I can understand your quandary (mik & Samurai Life), but withholding information about these areas defeats the whole purpose of these forums.
I'm not withholding any information. There are many members who enjoy going to these places and have shared reports. What have been their replies to your questions?
Aren't we all here to educate are self's about the wonders of HCMC? Do we not all appreciate the time a member post a review or promotes a new location for mongering?
I very much look forward to reading new reports on this and other forums I am a member of. Not just mongering forums.
And YES, there are many many unscrupulous individuals out there. But why punish everyone?
Who is being punished here?
Seek and you will find. Didn't you make a post about members here not spoonfeeding information? "We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek!"
You type this yet you are asking for address's. Try taking a little of your own advice, Research, Use various tools. Hell heres a freebie for you. www.diadiem.com Use that. I made a mention of it a long time ago. Anytime someone mentions a street I refer to that and look where it is, Then from there I can workout the general gist of it.
When an individual post a request or PMs you, don't just blatantly ignore them. Consider there position, a) do they contribute to the forum regularly? b) what are their contributions?
ok. Reply to;
a) Do they contribute to the forum regularly.
You have a 0.06posts per day.
b) what are their contributions?
Yours are mainly about asking people for exact address's with cross street references. 2 reports.1 HBT bar and 1 bj cafe.
Do you feel ignored? If you are refering to your PM sent to me please note that I was bombarded with PM's for every man and his dog asking/begging and even demanding I tell them the information.
After looking at your contributions (mostly of asking people for address's and not many reports appart from I went to a HBT bar and got ignored) would you give out information to a person who only asks and seldom gives? Regardless there are others out there who contribute a great deal and still don't complain.
One of the predominant impressions i get from you is "isolationism". Your ideology can only be detrimental to yourself and this forum. In doing so, you limit the influx of information on this site. Many of your post are reviews about experiences, but yet you are unwilling to provide the location of these establishments. I fail to see your logic there. I hope that you find some wisdom by understanding all sides of the situation at hand.
Taken from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism
"Isolationism is a foreign policy which combines a non-interventionist military policy and a political policy of economic nationalism (protectionism). In other words, it asserts both of the following:
Non-interventionism – Political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial self-defense.
Protectionism – There should be legal barriers to control trade and cultural exchange with people in other states."
I had to look that up.
Not sure how it refers to me. Please explain. PM me if you wish. I'm not the smartest cookie in the jar.
Please reference these posts to me so I can see them. There is a reason why some places have no address. Its no secret, just to those who don't know about it.
Try to be a more active member and post some reports of what you have done and where you have been. Its a give and take world, You give and you can take. Its time to give.
I agree 100%. I've not posted the address in the forum nor will I ever do so. These places are where I go now.
It took me almost 2yrs to learn about these fine establishments and I don't want people shitting in my backyard.
But you like shitting in others (locals) backyard.
Have a nice shit man. AND PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF.
This forum is for sharing. Read the basic rules.
IMHO if you do not wish to share then you shouldn't have post about FS MP's in the first place. Full stop.
Johndao san and MIK san
I'm living in Vietnam for almost 7 years.
These MP(HOT TOC) area is our last hope.
I hope you don't write the address in forum.
Best regards
First you post this
"Cheap and Easy BBBJ or FS place in HCMC
Yep!
There are tons of haircut(hot toc), that never give you a haircut and many coffee shops around this street called "Nguyen Thi Thap".
If you go there by foot tell taxi driver to go to "Lotte Mart in District 7". Nguyen Thi Thap street start from there. But it is quite long street so I will suggest to go there by motorbike. I offten go there by my Yamaha 100cc motorbike.
Here is the map.
http://www.diadiem.com/saigon.aspx?code=0;10;40;-196;-218;0;0;87552;248064;87552;248064;-1;-1;875269;2477776;150;349440;80;990720;0;0;0&ad=000E066E7948117359595B59106559515A566E056608066E066E076F700B000C056E7C401173595D575D1061595859566F076E00076E066906$$$6E71&auxi=0;-1;1;1;1;1;5;1;1;1&cont=6E076E1C046E1C016E00&xf=-1&state=SaiGon&fn=-1&n=6;4;-1;-1;-1&slang=0
Good luck. "
and then you ask others not to share it. Go figure
And since the above link is not working here is another one that does.
http://www.diadiem.com/Details.aspx?st=SaiGon&cID=050605040303&ll=0906090804070B03050904030906
Gentlemen of the forum put your pussy Osmometer on full alert and stroll down the Nguyen Thi Thap street.
You two guys really pissed me of today.
Have never been responding like that in the ISG before.
Samurai Life
01-08-10, 22:10
El Greco san,
Its been a while since my last post.
Unlike the post I made before this area is only for foreigner.
I don't post my favourite place.
Each shop has 5-20 girls you chose and go upstairs.
Nice hotel a like room with a air conditioner.
BJ+FS
100k to the shop
500k to the girl
And girls are beautyfull.
But you like shitting in others (locals) backyard.
How is it I'm shitting in others (locals) backyard? By locals you mean the Viets? Who don't frequent these establishments but have their own cheaper places?
I live 15min's ride away from these places. I've lived here now over 2yrs. I'm not a tourist on a sexsafari or a sexpat doing visa runs, living off a pension.
I live here, contribute to society, local business's and plan to do so for a long time.
This IS not just my backyard. Its my HOME now, So yes I don't want people shitting in my backyard, Local or otherwise. Remember Prostitution is illegal here. This is Vietnam, Not Thailand or Phils. Places like these can operate due to the clients being discreet. Not like in Thailand where its open, in your face, These things are done behind closed doors. Many sets of closed doors. Openly posting such information on a public forum can be harmful. Sure you don't give a toss, You don't live here, We do.
You El Greco on the other hand are just a blowie, visitor, tourist. Come through for a couple days/weeks/months on your sexsafari and your gone. Blow ya load and go, Clean ya pipes out, empty ya bag etc etc. Chances are you will never to return.
Like you said just to put another pin in your world map and cheap airflights.
Sure I would have helped you out if you asked, Did you even bother to PM me? Even meet up and personally bring you there if the timing was right(since your a member with a lot of reports under your belt) but instead you chose to attack me.
I had typed out a big reply but honestly it would have been a waste of time. Its obvious you never took the time or interest to read more than a couple replies. If you had gone back a few pages you will have found out the history behind these FSMP's and who actually first posted KNOWING the locations of these.
Yes its true, I actually found about these FSMP's from a fellow member on this very forum. I didn't stumble across them on my bike rides though I'd been past them several times.
Try reading a few reports by those who have been there. Try asking them
First you post this
"Cheap and Easy BBBJ or FS place in HCMC
Yep!
There are tons of haircut(hot toc), that never give you a haircut and many coffee shops around this street called "Nguyen Thi Thap".
and then you ask others not to share it. Go figure
And since the above link is not working here is another one that does.
http://www.diadiem.com/Details.aspx?st=SaiGon&cID=050605040303&ll=0906090804070B03050904030906
Gentlemen of the forum put your pussy Osmometer on full alert and stroll down the Nguyen Thi Thap street.
You two guys really pissed me of today.
Have never been responding like that in the ISG before.
hahaha thats funny El Greco.
That Lotte Mart is a new shopping mall. Full of cafe's and other "specialty shops"
How is it I'm shitting in others (locals) backyard? By locals you mean the Viets? Who don't frequent these establishments but have their own cheaper places?
So other gringos are frequenting these establishments but members of this forum must/can not according to you. Are you forgetting that we are talking about brothels and you are not the only customer there?
If you had gone back a few pages you will have found out the history behind these FSMP's and who actually first posted KNOWING the locations of these.
Try reading a few reports by those who have been there. Try asking them
The original poster received a PM from me, long ago, but choose to ignore me. Fair enough. If I was in his shoes though and had chosen not to share yet (which I never do) I would have sent him a PM telling him "sorry I do not wish to share unless I Vett you first. First round of drinks on me".
If he had replied to my PM I would have told him "Thank you very much. How about dinner on my account?"
You see dear Mik I know how to read but you don't. Because I didn't sent no one to the Lotte Mart. Instead I wrote : "Gentlemen of the forum put your pussy Osmometer on full alert and stroll down the Nguyen Thi Thap street."
Now if there are some more near the airport area good for you. Keep your secret and stop advertising about it. Otherwise you make the rest of us all feel like fools.
If you wish to create a close circuit do it by PMing each other. Not in the open.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
Cant make it any more clearer.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
Hope its getting through to you.
Don't bother with me as I have not written any reports about my experiences at THE SAME establishments. If I did then I would have shared.
Since I did not write then that means I'm not willing to make public what happened.
Theres a reason why people don't share there locations and people get ignored via PM. You still don't get it.
Don't be venting at me. You never PM'd me asking for the details.
Good luck mongering in Vietnam.
El Greco contact the people who are writing the reports.
There is an old Greek say that goes like that “I am telling it to the wife so the mother in law can listen.”
You simply gave me the opportunity with the shit stuff so the “chicken” mother in law could get the message.
I think I made my point loud and clear enough for you all residing in Saigon.
Have a good day Mr Mik and happy mongering to you too.
One should share in PM to Sr members, for instance.
But cleraly saying "you will not know from me where this is all about" is really sick!
I've yet to receive any NEW PM from Senior members or yourself Bionicman asking for the location other than the ones who already know and are reporting. Have you PM'd any of the members?
Ok to help clear things up read the following.
THERE IS NO FSMP IN SAIGON.
There, now the bickering can stop.
If you are sick and disgusted Bionicman I'd suggest taking up Badminton rather than mongering and reading forums about mongering.
Theres plenty of parks and footpaths around and no shortage of willing partners.
When I said I will not tell anyone this was in the public forum. Note Public and PM are different. To put it in a way you may understand since this is SE Asia "Same same but different"
There is a valid reason for this and is expressed by ALL senior members in the Vietnam Threads.
I've yet to receive any NEW PM from Senior members or yourself Bionicman asking for the location other than the ones who already know and are reporting. Have you PM'd any of the members?
Ok to help clear things up read the following.
THERE IS NO FSMP IN SAIGON.
There, now the bickering can stop.
If you are sick and disgusted Bionicman I'd suggest taking up Badminton rather than mongering and reading forums about mongering.
Theres plenty of parks and footpaths around and no shortage of willing partners.
When I said I will not tell anyone this was in the public forum. Note Public and PM are different. To put it in a way you may understand since this is SE Asia "Same same but different"
There is a valid reason for this and is expressed by ALL senior members in the Vietnam Threads.
I did not ask as of now I am not interested to know, but one day I might and usually it is recommended to RTFF, doing that will nto sort out any info.
Apart that, your statement is quite straight and one can read it "forget about to know wherfe it is as I do not want anybody to bother there" (ie spoil the place).
NBy reading that I would not think to put black on white in a PM to, as it looks you want "your places" to be exclusively. So be it. keep them for yoursleves. Your right, But why to tell us about them?
As you are not the only customer in there, other might do, so your efforts are invain.
And if you would ever tell me or anyone else in PM and somebody else (out of the ISG compound makles the place public, would it be the fault of ISG?
Come on, get real!
Do your deeds, but if you want to share, do not initimadate the readers about exclusivitiy! Keep it for yourself then!
Secondly, as
Member #2234
01-10-10, 03:29
Seems like a few guys on here have alot of tension, so here I recommend a GENUINE massage place to relieve all your stress and hopefully this will bring peace and undo the tension on this forum again ;-)
40 Nguyen Van dau, Q.Phu Nhuan
The NAME of the place is the actual ADDRESS of the place (40 NVD)
This place is a proper massage place with real professionals, it is Thai style massage and includes hot stones, face massage etc. all inclusive in your massage session you pay for. You can get 60minute session or 90minute session, if you choose the latter then you will be entitled to a FREE FOOT MASSAGE downstairs aswell.
Price 100k for 60mins / 140k for 90mins (and free foot massage)
Tip 100k-150k (standard locals rate, pay more if you want but you honestly don't need to)
Well, I hope this will relieve some tension that we have been getting on this forum the past few days
(and please don't flame me, I am only trying to help)
Hey you guys... be nice! Please.
El Greco: I think you're new to VN, right? While Mik's approach hasn't exactly been diplomatic, I think he actually has some legitimate reasons for not sharing info as openly as you would like. Frankly, I'm concerned that there's as much info out there about them now as there is. If you spend much time in this country you might understand why. Do you have an account that can receive PMs? Better to discuss there. I think the expression that applies here is "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
Hey you guys... be nice! Please.
El Greco: I think you're new to VN, right? While Mik's approach hasn't exactly been diplomatic, I think he actually has some legitimate reasons for not sharing info as openly as you would like. Frankly, I'm concerned that there's as much info out there about them now as there is. If you spend much time in this country you might understand why. Do you have an account that can receive PMs? Better to discuss there. I think the expression that applies here is "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
Mostly because of my job I have been hundreds of times in many places around SE Asia but never before to Vietnam. It simply happened that way.
I am fully aware that certain things might be undercover in Vietnam and other places China, Burma or Malaysia for example. Believe you me I know how to deal with things like that. That’s why I made my first approach by PM. Unfortunately with no joy because I was ignored. But I didn’t complain.
There after I felt provoked when the two gentlemen of the forum said to each other not to share the info about places where a lot of others can go but not the members of this forum. We are not talking here about sharing the telephone number of a WG or an individual freelancer. We are talking about brothels that accept a lot of people on a daily basis.
There is another old Greek say that goes "Although the whole world knows about it we are still very proud of our secret". LOL
IMHO, paraphrasing, fools are the angels who think that they have a secret although the whole world knows about it.
Thanks
Yes, I too fully understand the reasons for, and advantages of keeping something for ourselves. But saying we have something and then teasing and talking about it in an oblique way with others while not sharing, makes others feel bad. It's kids stuff really. Say you were invited to a party but your buddy was not. Best not to mention it to him rather than telling him 'hey I'm invited to a party and you're not, na na na na na na.'
Of course brothels, especially those that work largely out in the open with little cover, have hundreds of customers, regular and occasional. This board also has hundreds of regular readers and sometime contributors. To think that there will not be a match between or among them, and that a match will not have the same reservations about information, is not realistic.
FS MP are not for everyone. Many are happy with massage and HJ near the center of town, while others may prefer Massage and BJ/HJ near the center. Others like to monger late at night in bars and nightclubs looking for LT or overnight action. Some haunt the HBT and vicinity bars buying worthless drinks for ladies and tipping them hundreds of K Dong for some cuddling and kissing or a neck massage and tickling private parts. It's their enjoyment, it's what they like, and we should respect that.
Others like the thrill and challenge of the street, looking for that pretty young gem who does it all (with pictures) for 200k, or someone a bit older and more experienced for as little as 100-150k. Still others go exclusively for the 'seduction' route, not exactly a great challenge in Vietnam but still takes some time-consuming effort and does not always pay off. And some like the idea of going to a place and choosing one from a large number of girls and going straight to a room where everything can happen with no discussion of price beforehand and only modest expectations on the part of the girl.
The basic different strokes argument. So for those too worried about great secrets being revealed, I would say the stampede you anticipate will not happen. There will not be hundreds and thousands of guys rushing from the center to the outskirts of the city to go to these hard to find places where only Vietnamese is spoken and they will not be destroying the landscape so to speak. If anything, increased traffic will attract more and better providers and encourage them to work harder.
See my pictures of Linh, in the Photo Gallery today.
MutantChicken
01-11-10, 13:42
This started off as a whine whinge about some disreputable character that is taking advantage of people with stolen reports and fake reports. I have stated reasons why I have changed my stance towards revealing information that I obtained either research on the forums or through exploration, and no matter how much people try to convince me otherwise, I won't be changing my stance unless you have convinced me you can be discreet and you are not going to ruin my playground as too many times my information has been used and then I get the answer of, well " it my money and I'll pay whatever I want"
And frankly the few times I have met fellow mongers it has mostly left a bitter taste in my mouth, and so as I have never had the need to get any hand holding or any private directions before I can't see any reason that I should meet up and be a personal tour guide neither should I feel I should be posting addresses and such. There is that disreputable character out there charging 200k an address why should waste my posting address to guys who feel that I owe them something from a previous life and want to be spoonfed.
One thing that I find amusing is that whilst I actually gave johndao the address of the fsmp, here he is promoting good willing amongst us monger and yet I have never seen him do what he suggests and give out information such as addresses.
Methinks what he says is different to what he thinks and that he know that providing addresses in the public arena to strangers can only lead to a situation where there is increased police involvement or the rip off status of dist 1 will appear in all different districts.
John don't take this the wrong way you and I think alike in many respects and I love your photos, but on this matter I have to disagree on the matter revealing of this matter into public arena or to unproven individuals.
The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
Guys, it's not any stampede I worry about, it's the places being shut down. Posting the info on a public forum is not a good idea if we want the places to remain in business. Raids do happen here, a lot, and places do disappear forever, a lot. I've seen plenty of different venues shut down in my time here, never to return.
I can't speak for the way other people posted about those places here -- and can understand people being put off by that. But the bottom line is that it's not a good idea to post this particular info here in the forum. Info about them has been kept as a secret, in PM only, with a few leaks here and there. I heard of them by PM at a time when they were only being talked about in PM, always with the warning to be discreet with the info and only share with people who could be trusted, privately. Just because there were a few leaks by some who didn't have the good sense to be discreet doesn't mean now we should treat it as part of public domain.
It's reasonable and fair to limit sharing by PM for certain things. That's what PM is for. To get stuff in PM you have to persuade someone to share it. If you asked but didn't get it, it means you weren't persuasive enough. Or patient enough. In that case you can keep trying, try someone else, or cry foul. I think the last one is least likely to be effective, and actually is more likely to convince other people (such as me in this case) not to share the info with you. Basically, your skills of persuasion are failing to get the job done.
I tried to delicately give what I feel sure is good advice about this. The response I see, well... I'm not sure what to call the ones who rush in where they're tapped on the shoulder and specifically told angels fear to tread up ahead, then respond by telling off that person and insist on rushing in anyway. To me, I see this and think: definitely don't share this info with that guy. He doesn't care at all if these places get shut down.
If you were sincerely interested in getting those addresses, you would have acted nice and PM'd me. I got no PM(!) and a telling off instead. So obviously you're not interested in getting the info.
I guess I look at this and think, this guy is just here trying to stir up trouble. He's not even the least interested in getting the info that this is supposedly all about. So this is a troll, then.
Traveler1234
01-11-10, 18:15
The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
I guess I look at this and think, this guy is just here trying to stir up trouble. He's not even the least interested in getting the info that this is supposedly all about. So this is a troll, then.
First, I'm not taking anyone's side or trying to add more fuel to the fire. But a couple of points:
1. El Greco is not a troll, he's contributed in other threads.
2. If anyone thinks the local law doesn't know about these places, he's in for a surprise. They know and merely 'tolerate' as long as it's not flagrant.
3. Some threads, notably the Malaysia posts are paranoid about 'the big wind', the 'men in black'. They post in code and hope others understand.....I hope Vn threads don't evolve that way.
Finally, from my very limited experience in Vn, there are other places close by that are easier and more fun to monger. Save it for LOS, HK, Jkt, Cambodia.
Happy New Year to all.
3. Some threads, notably the Malaysia posts are paranoid about 'the big wind', the 'men in black'. They post in code and hope others understand.....
Happy New Year to all.
I applause...! indeed some posts are so cryptic, especially with use of ...local jergoen (that is the one most known to local LE!) that I am wondering if even the writer can read through it some 6 months after:))
MutantChicken
01-11-10, 18:31
First, I'm not taking anyone's side or trying to add more fuel to the fire. But a couple of points:
1. El Greco is not a troll, he's contributed in other threads.
2. If anyone thinks the local law doesn't know about these places, he's in for a surprise. They know and merely 'tolerate' as long as it's not flagrant.
3. Some threads, notably the Malaysia posts are paranoid about 'the big wind', the 'men in black'. They post in code and hope others understand. I hope Vn threads don't evolve that way.
Finally, from my very limited experience in Vn, there are other places close by that are easier and more fun to monger. Save it for LOS, HK, Jakarta, Cambodia.
Happy New Year to all.I ask you this, if the local malaysians talk in code where as you being a foreigner think its un-necessary, who do you think is more closer to the truth.
Secondly ask why is it that in district one there no hanky panky other than HJ massage. Could it be that the vn gov doesn want foreigners thinking that vietnam and its culture is full of vice, so it prohibit vice relate activities when foreigners are involved bit it allows it in other districts with irregular crackdowns. And so what do you think will happen if it is discovered that foreigners are going to the FS mssage en mass and its posted on a well known sex forum. I was there when a hbt bar was being raided, the girls went and hide in a secret closet and was there for over 1 hr, so don't that the police are aware of it and are not willing to do anything unless its flagrant. You have obviously not lived here whereas wendella has been here a long time, I'm viet kieu so I suspect that both Wendella and I are closer to the truth than you are.
The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
Info about them has been kept as a secret, in PM only, with a few leaks here and there. I heard of them by PM at a time when they were only being talked about in PM, always with the warning to be discreet with the info and only share with people who could be trusted, privately. Just because there were a few leaks by some who didn't have the good sense to be discreet doesn't mean now we should treat it as part of public domain.
It's reasonable and fair to limit sharing by PM for certain things. That's what PM is for. To get stuff in PM you have to persuade someone to share it.
Then, maybe, writing a simple sentence as "for the well know reasons, address will be given only by PM to Senior Members with proper post history"
Period.
Read this many times and the message is clear.
Clearer and less complicate than venturing into what was written before and in such a way that "you will not get it from me, stay away form my backyard".
How could someone be tempted to PM with such a warning?
wendella : you hit the nail right smack bang dead center on the head.
that was what i was trying to explain all along, however your way with words sound a lot more sweeter than my sour and bitter tasing ones.
these places are in all of "our" backyard hense we don't need it soiled. "our" being the more active members of the vn forum.
yes these are way out of the usual areas and yes sometimes you do get lost and end up going around in circles...many times.
like wendella said if you try and ask via pm and don't get a positive response you have to be more persuasive.
this has certainly breathed some life into the vn forum and its great, however i wish the subject was a more pleasant one.
for the record and perhaps i should have mentioned it much earlier i was replying to samurai life's request. not to anyone elses hense i put his quote and replied to it.
i was very much suprised that several people took offence to it then you must ask yourself why are you offended?
are you under the impression that we should share everything with everyone?
simply because you are a forum member?
a lot of regular contributors never complained or even responded, perhaps they already knew and didn't take any offence.
he (sl) had requested to jd and myself not to post the address's in the public forum as sl has lived here for quite a long time and knows what goes on. no doubt he would have seen places open and shut down like wendella mentioned.
remember its a "social evil" and police are "working" on reducing it. hense we must keep it discrete.
not worried about the stampeed as that will never happen, just don't want that dribble of customers to stop and have to look elsewhere.
The whole world doesn't know about it. That's the point.
Guys, it's not any stampede I worry about, it's the places being shut down. Posting the info on a public forum is not a good idea if we want the places to remain in business. Raids do happen here, a lot, and places do disappear forever, a lot. I've seen plenty of different venues shut down in my time here, never to return.
I can't speak for the way other people posted about those places here -- and can understand people being put off by that. But the bottom line is that it's not a good idea to post this particular info here in the forum. Info about them has been kept as a secret, in PM only, with a few leaks here and there. I heard of them by PM at a time when they were only being talked about in PM, always with the warning to be discreet with the info and only share with people who could be trusted, privately. Just because there were a few leaks by some who didn't have the good sense to be discreet doesn't mean now we should treat it as part of public domain.
It's reasonable and fair to limit sharing by PM for certain things. That's what PM is for. To get stuff in PM you have to persuade someone to share it. If you asked but didn't get it, it means you weren't persuasive enough. Or patient enough. In that case you can keep trying, try someone else, or cry foul. I think the last one is least likely to be effective, and actually is more likely to convince other people (such as me in this case) not to share the info with you. Basically, your skills of persuasion are failing to get the job done.
I tried to delicately give what I feel sure is good advice about this. The response I see, well... I'm not sure what to call the ones who rush in where they're tapped on the shoulder and specifically told angels fear to tread up ahead, then respond by telling off that person and insist on rushing in anyway. To me, I see this and think: definitely don't share this info with that guy. He doesn't care at all if these places get shut down.
If you were sincerely interested in getting those addresses, you would have acted nice and PM'd me. I got no PM(!) and a telling off instead. So obviously you're not interested in getting the info.
I guess I look at this and think, this guy is just here trying to stir up trouble. He's not even the least interested in getting the info that this is supposedly all about. So this is a troll, then.
Totally wrong!!!
Have a look at my long history or ask Jackson if I am a troll. We have met several times.
I never asked anyone to write it in the open or said that such info should be in the open. Although finally it was well before. I might be a newbie in Vietnam but not in the forum.
Read again more carefully my friend and you will see that I was not the only one to be denied by PM. Maybe the other member was not persuasive enough too. You tell us.
If you gentlemen want to have an "inner circle" in Saigon at least don't advertise it.
And please don't give me the "but you didn't PM me" thing. How could I know that you know? I simply asked the one who advertised it. I couldn't go all around begging for such a silly info. The attitude is what pissed me off. The attitude that, thanks to Mik's posting, made me feel that in Saigon I am going to be a second grade forum member. Or should I say third grade?
No I am not going to PM anyone in Saigon any more. Remember I am the bad guy who wants those places closed. If you want to see by yourself what a troll I am then you PM me. I'll buy the dinner.
You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did.
They have taken a lot of their time for many years to write reports from all over the world so others will learn and benefit by saving time and money the way I did so far and I will continue to do as far as I monger.
Traveler 1234 thank you very much Sir.
Thanks
Gentlemen,
This may be our backyard, but we don't own the house.
Besides, the establishment (as well as many others in the area) of which the address was posted previously (which led to this ruckus) has been around for a long time.
Now can we all get along? :D
El Greco: ευχαριστώ, and welcome to VN!
Thanks for sharing JD, I always enjoy your reports and pictures.
In fact since you first mentioned NTT, D7 I have tried probably 15-20 hot tocs and in 1 recieved FS for 300k. It is true that if you venture out of D1 there is lots of fun to be had at a good price. Plenty of girls at the end of NTT after 9pm who will go ST for 300k + 50k hotel fee.
Thanks jd, whilst I don't post enough on here, I certainly listen to you and regards to pricing and get some very good deals!
Peter,
I'm glad you use and appreciate my help.
Which end of NTT do you find the SW?
Also, go down Le Van Luong south of NTT. There are so many Hot Toc and Cafe Om on that stretch. Real down market places. 100-120k BJ all included, house and girl.
Also found on Lam Van Ben but only a few compared to LVL. I find directly on NTT usually ask higher prices. Rent is much higher on that street and more visible to passerby.
JD
This started off as a whine whinge about some disreputable character that is taking advantage of people with stolen reports and fake reports.
One thing that I find amusing is that whilst I actually gave johndao the address of the fsmp, here he is promoting good willing amongst us monger and yet I have never seen him do what he suggests and give out information such as addresses.
Methinks what he says is different to what he thinks and that he know that providing addresses in the public arena to strangers can only lead to a situation where there is increased police involvement or the rip off status of dist 1 will appear in all different districts.
John don't take this the wrong way you and I think alike in many respects and I love your photos, but on this matter I have to disagree on the matter revealing of this matter into public arena or to unproven individuals.
Mutant,
Please don't misunderstand me. The bottom line is I just wanted everyone to drop the subject altogether. I wrote that when the Ah Sam thing happened because he copied and changed a report on the forum. I thought better to leave it alone. That led to a deluge of comments and now to this. We should just stop talking about it and making people curious.
I very well know that putting too much info out there is not good. I don't suggest people give out addresses. But I am not worried abut a stampede of guys rushing into the boondocks to places where English is not spoken. Most guys will stay in D1 where they feel safe and comfortable. For example, there is more than enough info in the Forum about 100k BBBJ CIM on NPK and DBP and DBL. But those places are ok and most guys here are still writing about 600k BJ at HBT bars.
So Mutant, the bottom line of what I am saying is that it's a bad idea to spread too much info and I won't do it, but I don't much fear the consequences.
JD
MutantChicken
01-12-10, 05:01
Peter,
I'm glad you use and appreciate my help.
Which end of NTT do you find the SW?
Also, go down Le Van Luong south of NTT. There are so many Hot Toc and Cafe Om on that stretch. Real down market places. 100-120k BJ all included, house and girl.
Also found on Lam Van Ben but only a few compared to LVL. I find directly on NTT usually ask higher prices. Rent is much higher on that street and more visible to passerby.
JDI concur, le van luong, ntt and lam van ben have alot of hot tocs whre a BJ costs 120k, however I didn't see many caphe om. I saw afew regular cafge places whre thegirls sit and talk with you, but again I didn't go in and it didn't have the same dark dingy interior found in normal caphe om.
Street walkers and that kinda stuff is found towards nguyen van linh towards the bridge. Also I assume pete refered to the fact you can meet the hot toc girls for sex after they finish work etc.
Traveler1234
01-12-10, 16:59
I ask you this, if the local malaysians talk in code where as you being a foreigner think its un-necessary, who do you think is more closer to the truth.
There are a couple of other ISG type sites, names taboo here, that go into more detail re the Malaysian scene. One is actually a Singapore based site and the posts don't have as much cipher and code.
Secondly ask why is it that in district one there no hanky panky other than HJ massage. Could it be that the vn gov doesn want foreigners thinking that vietnam and its culture is full of vice, so it prohibit vice relate activities when foreigners are involved bit it allows it in other districts with irregular crackdowns. And so what do you think will happen if it is discovered that foreigners are going to the FS mssage en mass and its posted on a well known sex forum. I was there when a hbt bar was being raided, the girls went and hide in a secret closet and was there for over 1 hr, so don't that the police are aware of it and are not willing to do anything unless its flagrant.
No one is arguing that raids don't occur. But they don't rely on ISG for their source of information. China is the perfect example of that - they monitor everything on-line and off-line but BBS, bars, FL are everywhere. I will agree District 1 a little tougher than other areas.
You have obviously not lived here whereas wendella has been here a long time, I'm viet kieu so I suspect that both Wendella and I are closer to the truth than you are.
You're right, I've only been to Vn about 20 time over the last 20 years so a relatively newbie. However I suspect I've lived and worked in Asia long before you were born...LOL.
Traveler1234
01-12-10, 17:02
Besides, the establishment (as well as many others in the area) of which the address was posted previously (which led to this ruckus) has been around for a long time.
Well said Raverboy - long before any mutant ninja turtles were around. Mutant Chicken obviously didn't read my post carefully, I wasn't trying to dump on anyone. :D
I still remember the days when New World Hotel had just opened in HCMC and all you had to do was walk out the front door and across the parking lot to hop on a motorbike.
Totally wrong!!!
Have a look at my long history or ask Jackson if I am a troll. We have met several times.
Actually, not many people are going to start investigating your background before responding to what you write, they're just going to look at what you wrote here and say what they think about it. I didn't even notice how many posts you have, and don't intend to go read what you're written elsewhere or ask Jackson anything. If you expect people here to do otherwise, I'm not sure that's realistic. I dont' think 'senior' status means much to most people who post here. I think the way it works is that everyone gets treated pretty equally unless the people reading are familiar with them and respect them more based on what they've read here. You don't write here, so people who do come here just see you as a new guy from out of nowhere. Nobody's fault, just human nature.
I never asked anyone to write it in the open or said that such info should be in the open. Although finally it was well before. I might be a newbie in Vietnam but not in the forum.
Read again more carefully my friend
Maybe its me but I find it a bit off-putting when someone I've never met addresses me as "my friend". Anyway, I guess I misunderstood when you said: "There is another old Greek say that goes "Although the whole world knows about it we are still very proud of our secret". LOL IMHO, paraphrasing, fools are the angels who think that they have a secret although the whole world knows about it. My understanding of that was that the info was not in fact sensitive, and that anyone who thinks it shouldn't be shared openly is foolish. These are your words, and I think my interpretation was a reasonable one to make.
And actually, it occurs to me here when you cite a 2nd Greek saying that maybe English isn't your native language and that this might be part of our miscommunication here. I say that because the expression I used earlier that includes the word "fool" doesn't mean that you are a fool, it just means that this is a delicate issue that isn't being treated as such, and actually applies to everyone who is discussing it here. It wasn't intended to be a slight against you personally at all. I have a feeling you misinterpreted that to be a put-down.
and you will see that I was not the only one to be denied by PM. Maybe the other member was not persuasive enough too. You tell us.
OK, I will. Both of you were not persuasive enough. You needed to convince Mik. You didn't.
If you gentlemen want to have an "inner circle" in Saigon at least don't advertise it.
Well if we ever do form an inner circle, I'll make sure and follow your advice and not advertise it. As we haven't, and I've never met any of these other people you're having this problem with, I guess this is a non-issue.
And please don't give me the "but you didn't PM me" thing. How could I know that you know?
Fair enough, tho I did tell you to PM me if you wanted to discuss it further, that it shouldn't continue to be discussed here. You didn't PM me and continued to discuss it here.
I simply asked the one who advertised it. I couldn't go all around begging for such a silly info.
You could actually. Why not. What's wrong with trying to ask someone else? "Begging"? So you consider it demeaning to ask others to share info with you? Maybe this is the problem. Myself, I'm a question-holic. If asking questions is shameful, I'm gutter scum.
The attitude is what pissed me off. The attitude that, thanks to Mik's posting, made me feel that in Saigon I am going to be a second grade forum member. Or should I say third grade?
To be honest, in a previous post someone specifically asked that a certain address not be re-posted again in the forum, and your immediate response was to go back and find that info (actually it was wrong info) and then repost it. Your doing that showed a pretty clear attitude of defiance against the request to show discretion. That was a red-flag to some of us. Keep in mind you're not only going to be judged by the number of posts you made or the quality of posts you made elsewhere, but by the nature of the posts you make here (and actually, most will judge you only based on what you write here). But even before that, well, with this info that everyone who has it has been told to be very discreet with, unfortunately you aren't yet considered to be deserving of receiving it, at least by the guy you asked. He doesn't trust you yet. If you want to call that 2nd class, ok. Correct. If that pisses you off, well... it's what it is.
No I am not going to PM anyone in Saigon any more. Remember I am the bad guy who wants those places closed. If you want to see by yourself what a troll I am then you PM me. I'll buy the dinner.
That's fine, I guess we're pretty far beyond going on a dinner date by now. As they say, there are many fish in the sea.
You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did.
I expect it will play out similarly next time too if some 'senior' comes here brand new for the first time and rubs people the wrong way. But your request is noted. So this is what you call letting it pass. OK. I'm glad you didn't make an issue out of it then. Since you've decided the info is silly and not worth finding out, I guess there's nothing more to talk about.
The attitude is what pissed me off. The attitude that, thanks to Mik's posting, made me feel that in Saigon I am going to be a second grade forum member. Or should I say third grade?
You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did.
Thanks
I should think your attitude is a lot worse than mine. You don't know me and its the same that I don't know you, Yet you are making judgements by reading 1 reply not directed at you, however you took it as it was directed at you.
No doubt you had high expectations coming into VN. Sure its next door to Cambodia, jump over to TLD, near Phils, So the mongering must be the same right, pussy shoved in ya face, around every corner, your falling over theres so much pussy around, You cant walk anywhere because every step you take your stepping into pussy, red light districts, bars and girls for as far as the eye can see......
Sorry but if you are going to try to compare or monger here the same way as in other SE Asian countries then you will be having a hard time finding anything decent here. By decent I mean not the overpriced HBT bar girls who are mostly past their use by dates and the massuests with their overpriced offerings or the Orchard tower hookers hanging out at Apo.
However since you have been all over SE Asia then you will have no problems finding some hole to fill. All these shops should be easy to find with all your years of mongering exp. No doubt you won't be falling into any scams either with all your experience, hell you mite even teach them a thing or 2.
You talk about respect. That is a 2 way street. I don't care who you know, where you've been but the way you go about posting and insulting members shows just how much respect you actually have.
Its very obvious that you have ZERO respect for anyone and anything. Calling Samurai Life "Japie Guy" (was it so hard to see that he is from japan that you had to point it out?) shows how much respect you have for fellow members, Or was it because he wasn't a "senior member" so no respect was needed to be shown.
Perhaps because he had something you wanted and wasn't going to share you you had to resort to name calling much like a playground bully, intimidating people to give you what you want.
There have been numerous people who have posted here for the first time and never got a response like the ones you have been getting.
People don't care how many posts you have to your name, rather how you post and what you post.
You come to this forum (vietnam) and start throwing your weight around acting like WE OWE you information? Why? because you have XXX posts to your name? or you have Senior Member under your name? Or because you have been all over SE Asia and are a very experienced monger? Perhaps because of the way you post? Maybe its because you are used to the "submissive asian culture" and as a foreigner you must be the forceful one in order not to look weak.
Sorry mate, but you can GTFO. You (as you like to say) "my friend" are nothing, Same as we are nothing, we owe you nothing, same as you owe us nothing.
You want to know why we responded like we did. Spend some time living here, Proper time,not 1-2-4 weeks, spend 6+months straight and then see how life here is so different to anywhere else.
Treat people how you want to be treated and you will get treated accordingly. You got treated much better than you deserve in my opinion.
You act like people must give you anything you request, and if we deny you we become the biggest assholes in the world.
You forget....This is Vietnam. Things are very very very different here.
You are right about this one. English is not my mother tongue.
I wouldn't like someone I don't know to tap me on the shoulder whilst calling me a fool even indirectly.
Mea culpa on that one.
If you spend some time in Brasil, the way I do every year, you'll get used to be called by everyone and call everyone "amigo" (friend).
Sorry if that offended you I didn't mean to.
Once again
"You gentlemen in Saigon at least respect other senior members in the future and let this one pass. I already did."
The more you carry on the more you expose your self. Stop exposing yourself otherwise you are destroying all the good work you have done in the past.
It needs some courage to admit that you made a bad posting, that led to these all arguments, insulting us all newbies to Vietnam.
After reading some recent talk of theses cafe oms I decided to give them a try. Long drive for me. Went to Le Van Luong and I didn't see anything obvious at first so i drove around a little. Eventually I noticed one place that seemed obviously a cafe om. Lots of leafy plants in the front concealing the inside. The sign outside advertised "Cafe, Music Compact Dics".
There were 2 girls working and one mama lounging in a hammock. One of the girls was skinny with bad greasy skin and hairy legs. She implored me to go to the back with her for a massage, but I declined. Then the other one came over. Fat and pock marked face. Not pretty. I was feeling annoyed with all the hustling by then and was sure that I wanted none of what was on sale here.
I've been to 4 cafe oms now. In my experience its just not usually interesting. I think its a shame too, because it could be really nice. I would be happy just to fondle a pretty girl while i drink a cold coke and relax. But they need to be pretty or for me I just don't see the point.
Lakeoffire1
01-16-10, 16:46
Seems like a few guys on here have alot of tension, so here I recommend a GENUINE massage place to relieve all your stress and hopefully this will bring peace and undo the tension on this forum again ;-)
40 Nguyen Van dau, Q.Phu Nhuan
The NAME of the place is the actual ADDRESS of the place (40 NVD)
This place is a proper massage place with real professionals, it is Thai style massage and includes hot stones, face massage etc. all inclusive in your massage session you pay for. You can get 60minute session or 90minute session, if you choose the latter then you will be entitled to a FREE FOOT MASSAGE downstairs aswell.
Price 100k for 60mins / 140k for 90mins (and free foot massage)
Tip 100k-150k (standard locals rate, pay more if you want but you honestly don't need to)
Well, I hope this will relieve some tension that we have been getting on this forum the past few days
(and please don't flame me, I am only trying to help)Thanks dude! I just come back from there and it's a pretty good massage place, probably the best i ever got in Saigon (not difficult as the quality is very often lower than the surrounding countries).
I recommend it to you guys if you want a good massage, release the pain (quite energic massage) and relax with no happy ending, so they just work on the massage to get the tip.
Thank you member 2234
Member #2234
01-19-10, 16:56
No probs LAKEOFFIRE1, I know this is a sex forum but everyone needs a REAL MASSAGE every so often and it is so hard to find in HCM. That place is a REAL place. Glad you liked it!
If any mongers have recently seen any large-breasted (D Cup - bolted is ok) Vietnamese beauties in the MPs, bars or elsewhere could you kindly PM me an address and name? :). Slim and stacked is preferrred but I have been known to lower my bottom standards for the top-heavies :). I will be visiting HCMC (as well as BKK and Pattya) in March and want to slide the schwvantztooka between some major mams. Thank you very much and happy horndogging one and all! :)
Yes D Cups I have seen large-breasted beauties around elsewhere. PM me those pics you got of the 2 sweeties with large breasts at Smiley's last time. Tell us where you usually find them. Better yet, post them in the Photo Gallery for all!
JD
Mutant,
Please don't misunderstand me. The bottom line is I just wanted everyone to drop the subject altogether. I wrote that when the Ah Sam thing happened because he copied and changed a report on the forum. I thought better to leave it alone. That led to a deluge of comments and now to this. We should just stop talking about it and making people curious.Hey guys.. Some updates about this Toad thing for you.
http://www.tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,228046,00.html?
And within 1 day, Ah Sam have to re-do his website, and not only have a picture of the Perfume Pagoda!
http://vietnamtour.weebly.com/
I think he must have been arrested by authorities already, otherwise he woul not have to redo his website. All those customers of his better beware. You may be next on the list. Its a custom for police in Vietnam to force people like Ah Sam to cough out all the evidence of the clients as well so that the police can go and get more money from them as well, and Toads with no backbone like Ah Sam will volunteer everything with any resistance! And even photo evidence!
Member #2234
01-26-10, 09:54
Hey guys.. Some updates about this Toad thing for you.
http://www.tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,228046,00.html?
And within 1 day, Ah Sam have to re-do his website, and not only have a picture of the Perfume Pagoda!
http://vietnamtour.weebly.com/
I think he must have been arrested by authorities already, otherwise he woul not have to redo his website. All those customers of his better beware. You may be next on the list. Its a custom for police in Vietnam to force people like Ah Sam to cough out all the evidence of the clients as well so that the police can go and get more money from them as well, and Toads with no backbone like Ah Sam will volunteer everything with any resistance! And even photo evidence!
He had to re-do his website as the coffee shop from DE THAM (I won't mention which one) phoned him up and kicked up shit as he put their picture on and the girls too without permission and the girls there are not even on the game lol! He just makes up god damn stories and addresses! Also his name is NOT Sam either, and the photo of the guy holding the handbag is NOT him either. The coffee shop has now taken this situation into their OWN HANDS so I KNOW "Sam" is feeling VERY threatened ;)
One Wing Low
01-26-10, 10:39
I thought this guy Ah Sam must be nut to promote sex tours in Vietnam so obviously. He even sends out his mobile number and email address.
I know there were organized sex tours from other countries to Vietnam, but they were all done in very secretive manners, and of course with big, regular pay offs to the right officials. But after some time, something would go wrong with someone, somewhere, somehow and the sex tour operators would be busted with severe punishments.
Criminal laws in Vietnam are very harsh. The Communist Party takes lots of liberties in selective enforcement, arbitrary prosecution and severe punishments primarily to promote their political agendas.
The authority in Vietnam is known to be very strict about not letting Vietnam become a sex tour destination for foreigners like Thailand or the Philipines. They will tolerate prostitution for local people to a certain degree, but never for foreigners. They hate foreign pimps even worse. It's a matter of national pride to them. Uncle Ho's revolutionary great grand children would labor to their deaths to earn their living, but would never, ever even think of renting out their orifices to foreigners to feed their mouths.
There are millions secret police in Vietnam, all looking to make big money off stupid foreigners and to show off their patriotism. All it takes is a phone call from a secret police pretending to look for girls.
Ah Sam would not last a day after launching his web site. He may be looking at prison sentences as long as 15 years for pimping and pandering.
All those customers of his better beware. You may be next on the list. Its a custom for police in Vietnam to force people like Ah Sam to cough out all the evidence of the clients as well so that the police can go and get more money from them as well, and Toads with no backbone like Ah Sam will volunteer everything with any resistance! And even photo evidence!
But he's such a "gangsta" or isit pranksta. He'd never squeal on his clients. He's too gangsta for that. He'd pull out his tek-9 and mac-10 and spray the area, His homeboys will be firing their AK's and Shotty's to back him up, Then when he's run out of bullets he'll pull out his glock 9mm and keep shooting till no one is left standing.
He's like the asian version of Vanilla Ice.
He's as good at being a gangsta as William Hung is at singing
***Incase you need more clarification the above is written in a sarcastic tone.***
Balimassage
01-31-10, 08:26
Okay, I'm being silly, trying to come up with a new acronym, B&G is blow and go. Anyway
After a review I read about a B&G place in D1 (bordering D3), which is near where I live, I decided to go out and have a shot at it. It's off of HBT, right on Tran Quang Khai and left onto N V Nguyen (I think it is Nguyen Van Nguyen). Place is called Hoang (sp? ) My, address is 212. Someone wrote there are a few places here but I only found 1. .Hey everyone,
So I tried heading to this B&G (or Hot Toc, as you like, B&G sure seems more accurate) on NVN last week. I visited it during my trip here last October.
Oct2009 Review: My first time to one of these joints. It was as mentioned, 200k, and in-and-out in no time. Lots of hock-hocking after I CIM. I was expected a pretty awesome BJ as these ladies probably know how to do it, but instead it was quite mechanical and didn't feel all that great. I suppose "good stuff" is hard to cum by, eh? It was worth every penny of my $10 I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend a bit extra and get a good HJ at the massage place (tho these seem tough to come by too with all the tip negotiation, argh, damn the tip negotiation)
Jan010 Review: Passing by NVN this time, it was closed. It was 4pm and I recall going by there in the afternoon previously. So my guess is these places are much like what they do: they cum and go. Settled for a Body Massage at the Que Hong Liberty (which is another story I guess) instead.
Decided I still needed a B&G so headed down to DBP two days later and hit the first place after the bridge. Wow, what a different compared to the NVN place.
The girl who grabbed me looked as good as any in the place, and better than the ones at the other B&G's I saw as I wandered further down the street later. Paid the 200k in advance. Almost banged my head on the ceiling going up the stairs (yeah, you know the place!) Got a decent "massage" in the chair, had a nice chat with the lady for a bit, then finally, "you want blowjob? " LOL, um, that's why I'm here, right? So into the little side room that looks like a place you'd normally go to get a shampoo. But off come the pants, and she starts up. Again, much better than last time. Took her time, cleaned me up, good bit of teasing starting with the nipples and balls, and a decent BJ to finish, tho nothing I'd call amazing. She said I was "big, " but that's prob just an excuse for lazy sucking. Back outside for a bit of wrap-up wind-down massage. Well enjoyed!
Was all set to go, and then she started asking about a tip. I didn't have really much to give in small bills and she wasn't too happy. She wouldn't take the 15k I tried to give her which was all I had in my wallet
I thought the whole point of these places was we didn't have to tip? So 90% good, but the tip thing put me off. I'll head somewhere else next time. If anyone knows some other D1 places closer to the tourist area let me know.
Ok, time to take my anti-clap pills.
Peace out brothers!
MutantChicken
02-01-10, 05:37
Hey everyone,
So I tried heading to this B&G (or Hot Toc, as you like, B&G sure seems more accurate) on NVN last week. I visited it during my trip here last October.
Oct2009 Review: My first time to one of these joints. It was as mentioned, 200k, and in-and-out in no time. Lots of hock-hocking after I CIM. I was expected a pretty awesome BJ as these ladies probably know how to do it, but instead it was quite mechanical and didn't feel all that great. I suppose "good stuff" is hard to cum by, eh? It was worth every penny of my $10 I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend a bit extra and get a good HJ at the massage place (tho these seem tough to come by too with all the tip negotiation, argh, damn the tip negotiation)
Jan010 Review: Passing by NVN this time, it was closed. It was 4pm and I recall going by there in the afternoon previously. So my guess is these places are much like what they do: they cum and go. Settled for a Body Massage at the Que Hong Liberty (which is another story I guess) instead.
Decided I still needed a B&G so headed down to DBP two days later and hit the first place after the bridge. Wow, what a different compared to the NVN place.
The girl who grabbed me looked as good as any in the place, and better than the ones at the other B&G's I saw as I wandered further down the street later. Paid the 200k in advance. Almost banged my head on the ceiling going up the stairs (yeah, you know the place!) Got a decent "massage" in the chair, had a nice chat with the lady for a bit, then finally, "you want blowjob? " LOL, um, that's why I'm here, right? So into the little side room that looks like a place you'd normally go to get a shampoo. But off come the pants, and she starts up. Again, much better than last time. Took her time, cleaned me up, good bit of teasing starting with the nipples and balls, and a decent BJ to finish, tho nothing I'd call amazing. She said I was "big, " but that's prob just an excuse for lazy sucking. Back outside for a bit of wrap-up wind-down massage. Well enjoyed!
Was all set to go, and then she started asking about a tip. I didn't have really much to give in small bills and she wasn't too happy. She wouldn't take the 15k I tried to give her which was all I had in my wallet
I thought the whole point of these places was we didn't have to tip? So 90% good, but the tip thing put me off. I'll head somewhere else next time. If anyone knows some other D1 places closer to the tourist area let me know.
Ok, time to take my anti-clap pills.
Peace out brothers!You are being tested by the gals, the standard system at the dbp place is u pay 200k at the door and nothing extra, if she ask for toip just say that ther tip has already been paid.
Peterpanabc
02-12-10, 06:19
Someone recommended I visit a place called Rose, I am not after the address just any comments from any regulars who have been there, those who know it will no doubt recognise the name.
I live out in D7 so its quite a distance so want to be sure its worth the trip and that I don't over pay. I was advised 600k
Thanks in advance
P
Someone recommended I visit a place called Rose, I am not after the address just any comments from any regulars who have been there, those who know it will no doubt recognise the name.
I live out in D7 so its quite a distance so want to be sure its worth the trip and that I don't over pay. I was advised 600k
Thanks in advance
P
Went past it today around 1330. The gates were shut with only the small flap door open for locking/unlocking.
Ticket = 100k. tip = upto you. (4-500k) If you get a mind blowing leg shaking earth shattering (insert more descriptive words here) experience then tip more.
Dropped into the Superbowl mall today, Still pretty crappy but nevertheless the MP was opened.
Walked upstairs and entered. Whisked away to the changeroom. Had the usual crowd of Korean men naked wandering around and staring. Stripped off, wrapped up with a nice clean soft towel, and had a steambath. Nice smelling one too.
Theres a few spa's with a couple guys sitting in, Seating area where you can compare dick sizes? while eating fruit platter or other snacks.
After the shower with dual soap dispensers. Left was Dove and Right was Xmen or something walked into the large sofa recliner room. Here you can get a foot massage while watching the soccer or Korean tv soap's. If your not a fan of smoking then you want to bypass this and go straight to the massage rooms.
Entered the room and under 30sec's later a pretty girl appeared.
Phuong #14.
She proceded to use plenty of oil and massage me, walking/slip sliding on my back, legs, arms. After she got the hot rocks out and used them to massage.
She offered to "massa baby" but I declined. Great fun with the massuest.
Doubt there is any FS going on as the setup is pretty much like a korean/chinese footmassage. The rooms are very small but solidly made with brick dividers.
Ticket was 110k. coke was 10k. Tip 100k. (I know I could have paid 50k but for 90min's of hard work it was well worth it)
Good detail report. Thanks for sharing.
What does the Sheraton Spa charge for a hour . It was about $85 when I visted. Few years back.
Dropped into the Superbowl mall today, Still pretty crappy but nevertheless the MP was opened.
Walked upstairs and entered. Whisked away to the changeroom. Had the usual crowd of Korean men naked wandering around and staring. Stripped off, wrapped up with a nice clean soft towel, and had a steambath. Nice smelling one too.
Theres a few spa's with a couple guys sitting in, Seating area where you can compare dick sizes? while eating fruit platter or other snacks.
After the shower with dual soap dispensers. Left was Dove and Right was Xmen or something walked into the large sofa recliner room. Here you can get a foot massage while watching the soccer or Korean tv soap's. If your not a fan of smoking then you want to bypass this and go straight to the massage rooms.
Entered the room and under 30sec's later a pretty girl appeared.
Phuong #14.
She proceded to use plenty of oil and massage me, walking/slip sliding on my back, legs, arms. After she got the hot rocks out and used them to massage.
She offered to "massa baby" but I declined. Great fun with the massuest.
Doubt there is any FS going on as the setup is pretty much like a korean/chinese footmassage. The rooms are very small but solidly made with brick dividers.
Ticket was 110k. coke was 10k. Tip 100k. (I know I could have paid 50k but for 90min's of hard work it was well worth it)
Hi,
I thought everyone would like a good laugh! We took a trip down to Vung Tau just before Tet, the week before, and we stayed in the Vung Tau Intourist Hotel and Resort, right on the beach. Very, very nice place, good food and right outside is a cabana and a woman and her son selling Crabs, Shrimp, Clams, etc. And they will cook them for you right there! Love that Seafood.
Anyway, one afternoon, I wandered downstairs to the Massage Salon, where I paid, I believe it was $10, or the equivalent in VND, and was shown to a room. On the way in, I saw a couple of just awesome cuties, in short skirts, and I knew they were Massa Girls, but when the door to my room opened, in walks a middle-aged woman, sort of matronly looking, and has long since seen her 40th birthday in my estimation.
Now, I know what you are thinking, I should have just gotten up, went outside and told Mamasan that I wanted another girl! You might as well know, that is not my style. I figure that, when I walked in, I had the opportunity to ask for one of the cuties as I was paying, but I got a brain-fart and didn't. So, Mamasan sends in the one it is hardest to make money for herself, gives her a shot at me. So, to me, its too late. When I am the one who fucks up, I just live with it. LOL
Anyway, I do not wear a wedding band, never liked them as I have been known to leave my Businessman environment, go home and take a tranny out of a car! Rings and that do not mix! So, this old gal starts to give me a pretty damn good, hard massage. Much more than adequate, just like I like it. However, I was relieved that she didn't offer to walk on my back, seeing as she is a few kilos overweight! Ha ha
Then, she noticing I wear no ring, I guess she figured I was a rich, unattached Ong My, and was ripe for the pickings! There ensued an hour-long sell-session! She trying to sell Me, on Her! She explained how good she could be to me, how wonderful a wife she could be, how wonderfully she would take care of me and even nurse me in my old age. LOL Then, he gave me a big hug, and started whispering in my ear, telling me that to prove it all, she would like to give me a blow job before I left, and then, come up to my room later that night. Her eyes got big as she told me, "I boom boom real good for you! I even boom boom you so good you be happy! "
Well, who am I to argue with her? She proceeded to finish the massage, took it upon herself to do exactly as she told me she would. With fine results, I might add. It was apparent she had some excellent tutoring in the art of fellatio. Then, when I got ready to leave, she asked me about coming to my room, and I told her I must first talk to the hotel about getting a room with a bigger bed. When she asked me why, I told her my Wife wouldn't want to sleep so close to her!
Ok, so I am an asshole. Sue me. Ha ha ha ha
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Hi All,
I am heading off to Vietnam latter in the month and will be staying in District 3. Having had a search through the older posts, there dorsn't seem to be much action for massage parlours in this area.
I would be grateful if one of the gurus of the area (or indeed anyone else who may have some info), could enlighten me.
Thanks
Handy
Hi,
I thought everyone would like a good laugh! .......
....... Then, when I got ready to leave, she asked me about coming to my room, and I told her I must first talk to the hotel about getting a room with a bigger bed. When she asked me why, I told her my Wife wouldn't want to sleep so close to her!
Ok, so I am an asshole. Sue me. Ha ha ha ha
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awsome laugh! gotta love it!
great answer.
thanks for sharing it with us
Pici Picidae
03-09-10, 06:16
Thats just one in Phu My Hung, District 7, HCMC camouflaged massage bordel usually for Koreans and Japanese but take all, guaranteed 1million full service prices. Drive down the street Bui Bang Doan, left bend in the Hung Gia 2, 30 meters continue on the right side is an outside decente House is written with long red curtains do with massage. 4-10 Girls, the girls look is a range from 7-8, and the are always there, it has 2-3 floors with beautiful rooms. Open every day from 10am-23pm, I think has been now almost since 2 years big in the business with police protection so no fear from any Ride. spare me now with your mystery-mongering is not a trade secret. will have longer talked about it. be nice together and post good information. and use the proper tread for the right topic.
Thanks guys.
Thats just one in Phu My Hung, District 7, HCMC camouflaged massage bordel usually for Koreans and Japanese but take all, guaranteed 1million full service prices. spare me now with your mystery-mongering is not a trade secret. will have longer talked about it. be nice together and post good information. and use the proper tread for the right topic.
Thanks guys.
Thanks for the post Pici, but at 1mill thats double what we pay for at other places.
Pici Picidae
03-09-10, 08:59
You welcome. I know thats expensive. But when you in a hurry quick morning cafe and breakfast without search not so bad isen't. With aircon and nice shower. Pants down and take it and enjoy the ride.
Ho Chi Minge
03-09-10, 11:06
spare me now with your mystery. Mongering is not a trade secret. Will have longer talked about it. Be nice together and post good information. And use the proper tread for the right topic.Thanks for the info but regarding your comment about trade secrets, unfortunately in VN somethings have to be secret. On a Vietnamese language forum similar to this, they rarely post addresses of places and sometimes not even names. Its all done by personal message. The government do monitor these websites and if a place is getting a lot of publicity they will shut it down, regardless of whether the local police 'protect' it already or not. This applies for places that cater to foreigners or vietnamese. Just to warn you.
Well, I've been here in HCMC and finally, found the time to explore out on DBP. I don't have a motorbike so I usually walk. Yeah, crazy right, but it is my preference as one can easily shoot down alleyways to check out new places.
So walking on DBP from D3, I only spotted one MP. I was hoping to find more and crossing the street to the other side would be a feat. I found a lot of Karaoke places on this road but found the B&G place and even though it's a bit run down, the service was awesome.
Maybe it was the girl that I had, didn't even ask her name, but I won't forget her face. She took her time, with such a slow and gradually build up just the way I like it. Then she could tell I was about primed to go and she picked up the pace. She really knew how to read my reactions and performed accordingly.
Maybe my memory is short, but it was by far the best performance I've experienced in the last 18 months here. I'll be going back again to see if the service remains consistent.
BigGuyVietnam
03-12-10, 06:39
There is a place on Le Thanh Ton. Barbershop and massage, pretty upscale and expensive. But the massage is amazing and leaves you so horny you almost die. The girls are really good at working you up very slowly. One girl, Hong wil even do a prostrate massage. HJ and BJ are always included and with a little effort, you get the works. Hong isn't amazing looking, but very sexy and is really tight. Another girl I prefer is Thu. A little chubby but great tits and the cutest little ass. She's always willing. But the place is pricey
Went to Rona massage a couple of times. Found a girl named Kim Thoa. Gorgeous with some nice curves. Shy but accomodating BBBJ and HJ plus strips down and lets you finger her to orgasm. Quite cheap, but I don't know if she's still there.
Went to the FS in Phu My Hung. One girl with an amazing ass and another with very nice tits. Both cheap and very accomadating. Some of the girls there are kind of plain looking.
Any recommendations for good service in Hot Tocs on NTT or LVL? I live in the area but haven't visited any yet. Great massage by a girl named Diem at Hoang Anh Gia Lai 2, but no extras that I am aware of.
Went on a quick tour of the NTT/LVT area. Assuming this is in District 7.
It cost 50K dong for a taxi ride from Pham Ngu Lao. There's a Lotte World Mall close by.
I walked around in the afternoon. A lot of Hot Tocs around. But some seemed legit with people getting shaves and haircuts. Some were empty with a few girls looking bored; assuming these are the places. Saw a lot of cafes; wondering if anything else is offered in these cafes.
This scene is different from other countries; it is not as blatant. The girls were not waving me in.
Didn't partake; don't like this type of scene (that's my preference; although I have and will probably do it again in that type of scene). Prices are great, but places like these are probably dirty. Girls looked marginal.
Joe Coodidge
03-13-10, 23:11
Found a place very near my hotel (Sommerset). It is called Ngoc Ahn Therapy Massage. Lots of female workers in the lobby. Some cute, some average.
Is this a legit place or can I get extras?
The place is on Nguyem Bihn Khiem St.
TIA,
Joe
Asian Rain
03-14-10, 07:00
Found a place very near my hotel (Sommerset). It is called Ngoc Ahn Therapy Massage. Lots of female workers in the lobby. Some cute, some average. Is this a legit place or can I get extras? The place is on Nguyem Bihn Khiem St.Absolutely legit and no way to get extras considering the layout. I will do a report on them shortly as I used them extensively for recovery massage during my previous trips. On the other hand, if you want sex why not just walk up the street 30m and pick up one of the moto girls at the intersection of NBK and NDC? The mini hotels are right behind your hotel. Easy. Enjoy HCMC, AsianRain
Joe Coodidge
03-14-10, 12:53
Absolutely legit and no way to get extras considering the layout. I will do a report on them shortly as I used them extensively for recovery massage during my previous trips. On the other hand, if you want sex why not just walk up the street 30m and pick up one of the moto girls at the intersection of NBK and NDC? The mini hotels are right behind your hotel. Easy. Enjoy HCMC, AsianRain
Thanks for the tip. Are the mini-hotels safe? My hotel here does not allow visitors after 10pm and also I'm here on business with other business associates so not a good idea for me to bring someone here.
As far as the massage place, I did get an amazing legit massage from a cute 20 year old. No extras but the massage was amazing!
Joe Coodidge
03-14-10, 13:58
Absolutely legit and no way to get extras considering the layout. I will do a report on them shortly as I used them extensively for recovery massage during my previous trips. On the other hand, if you want sex why not just walk up the street 30m and pick up one of the moto girls at the intersection of NBK and NDC? The mini hotels are right behind your hotel. Easy. Enjoy HCMC, AsianRain
Ok, one question. I did walk around the area and so a TON of girls on motor bikes. Is this what you are talking about? How do I know if the ones I see are the ones I can pick up?
I was walking back to my hotel and on the other side there was a whole bunch of lounge chairs. Some girls were waving at me to come over. Are these girls "available?"
Ok, one question. I did walk around the area and saw a TON of girls on motor bikes. Is this what you are talking about? How do I know if the ones I see are the ones I can pick up?
Joe, You are looking for the place with tons of girls on motos to pick up and take to fuck hotels, right? You have the exact directions from this forum adn you followed them, right? You get there and you see tons of girls on bikes riding around, right? And now you are writing back here to inquire if those are the girls you can pick up? Sometimes I really can't believe what I am reading. . .
JD
Thats just one in Phu My Hung, District 7, HCMC camouflaged massage bordel usually for Koreans and Japanese but take all, guaranteed 1million full service prices. Drive down the street Bui Bang Doan, left bend in the Hung Gia 2, 30 meters continue on the right side is an outside decente House is written with long red curtains do with massage. 4-10 Girls, the girls look is a range from 7-8, and the are always there, it has 2-3 floors with beautiful rooms. Open every day from 10am-23pm, I think has been now almost since 2 years big in the business with police protection so no fear from any Ride. spare me now with your mystery-mongering is not a trade secret. will have longer talked about it. be nice together and post good information. and use the proper tread for the right topic.
Thanks guys.
Hi All,
I tried to find this place mentioned by Pici. I know the Hung Gia 2 and turned in looking for a massage or spa type place with red curtains but did not see one. I think there were 3 'spas' on the street. I stopped into 'Hello Spa' which has off white or cream colored curtains. There were four or five girls and a cashier doing nothing. The table at the cashier had a sign that read 200k ticket. There was a back room with red curtains and chairs for hair wash. The girls said the massage was upstairs for 1 hour. I did not ask about what service is provided as the girls were 4-5's at best. They were polite and friendly though. I noted a wooden model ship on the table in the reception area. Is this the place you mentioned Pici?
Also, what does 'outside decente House' mean?
JD
Joe Coodidge
03-19-10, 03:16
Joe, You are looking for the place with tons of girls on motos to pick up and take to fuck hotels, right? You have the exact directions from this forum adn you followed them, right? You get there and you see tons of girls on bikes riding around, right? And now you are writing back here to inquire if those are the girls you can pick up? Sometimes I really can't believe what I am reading. . .
JD
I do appreciate your help. I'm not used to the culture area so I want to make sure I do it correctly. Plus I don't speak the language so I want to be careful...
If it was your first time in the US I'm sure you would want to make sure you did things correctly so you would not get arrested!
Pici Picidae
03-19-10, 03:45
Hi All,
I tried to find this place mentioned by Pici. I know the Hung Gia 2 and turned in looking for a massage or spa type place with red curtains but did not see one. I think there were 3 'spas' on the street. I stopped into 'Hello Spa' which has off white or cream colored curtains. There were four or five girls and a cashier doing nothing. The table at the cashier had a sign that read 200k ticket. There was a back room with red curtains and chairs for hair wash. The girls said the massage was upstairs for 1 hour. I did not ask about what service is provided as the girls were 4-5's at best. They were polite and friendly though. I noted a wooden model ship on the table in the reception area. Is this the place you mentioned Pici?
Also, what does 'outside decente House' mean?
JDDear Johndao,
If you pull left into the street it is the first on the right site. decente - equal to more recent family house. I go just now quick to the address you mentioned in NPK thanks for the info. yes, thank you for that.
there are some very beautiful place's outside like a small cross street to Vanh Dai Trong, uhhhhhhh.
or in Dinh Bo Linh or more out in Tham Binh,
Have a beautiful Day ;-)
greetings pici picidae
I do appreciate your help. I'm not used to the culture area so I want to make sure I do it correctly. Plus I don't speak the language so I want to be careful...
If it was your first time in the US I'm sure you would want to make sure you did things correctly so you would not get arrested!Yes, I guessed you are American, the least travelled, most trusting, innocent, naive people in the world, utterly unaccustomed to the ways of other places. I know, I am one too.
It's just that YOU have the advantage of using this Forum and knowing the REAL deal, the score in advance. But despite the knowledge which others have taken the time to so generously share, you seem utterly helpless in dealing with people half your age and probably with a fraction of the education.
JD
Asian Rain
03-19-10, 17:20
Sometimes I really can't believe what I am reading. . .
JDJD, You are being too kind...
Ok, one question. I did walk around the area and so a TON of girls on motor bikes. Is this what you are talking about? How do I know if the ones I see are the ones I can pick up?Um, I think you asked two questions. I will type real slow so you can understand. Just stand at the side of the road and watch. The girls who are working will keep circling and circling, making the u-turn at the intersection. Just stand at the side of the road and soon one will stop and offer boom-boom. Don't consider another reply on this subject unless you grow some balls and actually go out and fuck a girl.
I was walking back to my hotel and on the other side there was a whole bunch of lounge chairs. Some girls were waving at me to come over. Are these girls "available?"No, the place with the thumping techno music and locals hanging out on lounge chairs next to Ngoc Anh Massage has girls, but they will just sit mindlessly with you while you drink. No action. AR
Joe Coodidge
03-19-10, 23:23
JD, You are being too kind...
Um, I think you asked two questions. I will type real slow so you can understand. Just stand at the side of the road and watch. The girls who are working will keep circling and circling, making the u-turn at the intersection. Just stand at the side of the road and soon one will stop and offer boom-boom. Don't consider another reply on this subject unless you grow some balls and actually go out and fuck a girl.
No, the place with the thumping techno music and locals hanging out on lounge chairs next to Ngoc Anh Massage has girls, but they will just sit mindlessly with you while you drink. No action. AR
I must say this. I've been mongering in many countries (Dubai, Mexico and the U.S.). For the most part, people in those forums have been very patient and understanding of a newbie person in that country. Sure, maybe I'm not assertive (not in my nature). I feel at a disadvantage since I don't speak the language. Some of the people in this forum have been helpful and patient. But for the most part, many of you seem to be angry. This seems to be a place where you can get a $5 US blowjob. I would certainly be a happier person...
Joe Coodidge
03-21-10, 17:00
Some of us are new to mongering in Vietnam so I wanted to give a report of my recent experience in the area.
First of all, I've been mongering for many years, mainly in the US, Middle East and parts of Mexico. Vietnam is completely different than what I'm used to and it takes some time to get acclimated.
The first culture shock is the amount of people here. Especially the amount of people on mopeds. I've read in this forum and other places that they had many moped drivers but you will not believe it until you see it. Red lights are a suggestion. There are no such thing as lane. Ok to drive in the wrong direction or on the sidewalk. I was schooled on the best way to cross the street. But the first time doing it is much different than someone telling you what to do. Much like mongering advice...
So my first time out to the BJ place was a bust. While I was told what to do it was much different once inside. The first place I went to I did not do it correctly (asked how much). The second place I did not ask, she kept on asking for 400k. So I walked out. Believe me, it was difficult to walk out. 400k here is what, $20US? Getting a BJ from a young thing for $20 is impossible in the US. I had the money and it would have been so easy to just pay and be done. But out of respect to my fellow mongers I did not want to deviate from the norm. If I start paying 400k then they will be used to that and it will harder on the next newbie. So I stood my ground and walked out.
Tonight was a different story. This time I was prepared to do it right (plus I really needed a BJ). So I went to the first place I went to the first time. Since it was Sunday it seems there were not a lot of girls. I picked a very attractive, thin (but they are all think) girl with nice tits. The best part is that she had these "Angelina Jolie" lips and a great smile. So I picked her and started walking upstairs (acting like I knew the score).
She took me to the second floor, I got to the table and as I as instructed, proceeded to take off my shirt only. She stopped me and said something in Vietnamese. She motioned me to come downstairs with her. She pointed to the lady in charge so I figured out she wanted me to pay the house.I took out 80k for the house and she said no, 400k! But this time I was prepared. I only had enough with me for the deed and nothing more (I had 80k in one picked and 100k for the girl in another). I looked at her and said: "No, 100k for her and 80k for you). She looked at the girl and looked back at me and said ok. So here is a recommendation to newbies. Take only enough and have the money already separated. If they see you have more, they will ask for more...
So I paid and went back upstairs. I took of my shirt and laid down. The girl proceeded to use those wipes to clean my chest, arms, and hands. Then she took of my pants half way down and proceeded to clean balls and cock. Then she look off her top to expose her tits. I was told the girls would show their pussy but she did not. I did not care: her tits were quite excellent. I would get she was about 18 or 19...
So she starts kissing my chest and stomach. Then she proceeded with the BJ. Good skills, nothing great but I had not had a BJ in over 3 weeks so it felt good. After the deed was done, she cleaned me up and I was on my way.
I will be here for another week so I will try to get there one more time.
Thanks for listening!
Joe
Some of us are new to mongering in Vietnam so I wanted to give a report of my recent experience in the area.
I will be here for another week so I will try to get there one more time.
Thanks for listening!
Joe
Well done. You need to be very assertive in VN otherwise they (girls, police, merchants etc) will walk all over you and charge like a wounded bull.
When you go in, make sure you have a air of confidence and partly act aloof like u know the deal.
Nice report Joe. Sorry you had to deal with the BS. It sounds like you handled it well.
My first time at a "hot toc" place was a disaster. I walked from PNL. It was far. And then I think I paid about 700 or 800,000 for a handjob with just a hint of bj. The report is on here somewhere.
Anyway, you did better than me.
So I paid and went back upstairs. I took of my shirt and laid down. The girl proceeded to use those wipes to clean my chest, arms, and hands. Then she took of my pants half way down and proceeded to clean balls and cock. Then she look off her top to expose her tits. I was told the girls would show their pussy but she did not. I did not care: her tits were quite excellent. I would get she was about 18 or 19...
Joe
Good job Joe. Next time just pull her panties down yourself. She will agree and help you. Grab her ass and finger her pussy. Most girls let you finger their ass too if you want. Make sure you cum in her mouth, not a tissue!
Have fun!
JD
Happy Harry
03-22-10, 16:45
Are there any places where you can find girls with fake tits?
For some reason I like large perky tits.. must of been a bottle baby =D
If you pull left into the street it is the first on the right site. decente - equal to more recent family house. I go just now quick to the address you mentioned in NPK thanks for the info. yes, thank you for that.
there are some very beautiful place's outside like a small cross street to Vanh Dai Trong, uhhhhhhh.
Thanks Pici, I found the decente house but when I was there the girls were really too low for me to consider. Just not well-cared for or attractive around Noon. Cashier said 200k for 1 hour massage, I did not ask about service, extras or tip.
JD
Joe Coodidge
03-23-10, 15:04
Make sure you cum in her mouth, not a tissue!
Would not have it any other way!
Joe Coodidge
03-23-10, 23:23
Nice report Joe. Sorry you had to deal with the BS. It sounds like you handled it well.
My first time at a "hot toc" place was a disaster. I walked from PNL. It was far. And then I think I paid about 700 or 800,000 for a handjob with just a hint of bj. The report is on here somewhere.
Anyway, you did better than me.
I'm going to visit one more time before heading home.
Actually, I might pick two girls instead of one. Has anyone done this?
I'm going to visit one more time before heading home.
Actually, I might pick two girls instead of one. Has anyone done this?
You get your 20 minute blowjob, each girl sucks half as much as usual, works half as hard as usual. Then you pay twice as much as usual. And you can only cum in one mouth. Waste of money if you ask me, but if it's your thing, go for it.
JD
Joe Coodidge
03-24-10, 10:42
You get your 20 minute blowjob, each girl sucks half as much as usual, works half as hard as usual. Then you pay twice as much as usual. And you can only cum in one mouth. Waste of money if you ask me, but if it's your thing, go for it.
JD
I hear what you are saying JD. But having two young sexy girls sucking my dick at the same time for $10US might be worth it! Can't get that in the US!!!
Joe
Both Johndao and Asian Rain have been helpful to me in the past in this forum. Thank you. Johndao wants me to post photos of the big-titted girl from Smiley's (she gave me a nice BJ last night) but I still have not learned how to post photos. Maybe my new camera maybe it will be easier. Please don't be so critical of people twice your age and more education and fellow American. I have gotten accustomed to many other places, though, to the point of enjoyment.
Maybe everyone reading this should go out and find some beautiful woman to make love to, yes? And write more about positivity and big boobs :).Ok, D Cups. First, if anyone here is twice my age, congratulations to you as you are over 100-years-old! Do I really look that young in my pictures? Thanks!!
Second: Education? I do have a post-graduate degree although only one and it is not a Phd, so I suppose there are many better educated members posting here.
Third, a new camera will not make it any easier for you to post pictures. If you can turn on a computer, start an operating system, load a web browser, navigate to these Forums, sign-in your user name, and post messages you can surely post a picture or two that you have of these amazing big-titted girls. There is nothing difficult except actually wanting to do it.
Fourth: I see dozens and dozens of reports in various Forums over time asking for information but I have never seen any given.
Fifth: I went to a Blow and Go in D7 last week and had a surprise. I am not a 'tit man' and don't choose girls based on breast size or look for large-breasted girls. I am more of an ass man than anything, legs and shoulders as well and I do look for nice lips.
When I saw "L" I immediately noticed her lips, especially her pouty and full lower lip and imagined it sliding down the bottom of my shaft. I also noticed her full, firm ass in short red shorts. Off to the back we went. I hadn't even noticed her black satiny shirt. Till she took it off and I was faced with the hugest Asian breasts I have ever seen on a non-obese girl. No, sorry, they were the largest breasts I had ever seen in person on ANY girl of any race. Now keep in mind, I don't seek out girls like that. I just could not believe those things were hiding under the black shirt and I did not even see a hint of them. Shape? Very round, very full. Firmness? Extremely firm. She is 24, no kids. Like massive rubber balls. Perfect nipples too.
I am not saying I don't appreciate a woman's breasts, I do. But I am all about shape and texture and nipples, not overall size. But this girl was amazing. So BIG! And her ass did not disappoint either. Firm, high, shapely, round. Smooth flat belly too, just a little slightly full.
Her BJ was so-so. She does not get much depth on me and can't handle thickness. She is a major cum dodger. Petrified of the stuff. The place she works in? Dodgy and dirty and small. But a creaky AC on the wall cools the BJ room. Better hope nobody else is in there cause it is not private for two. The price is right though. 60k for the 'massage' and the same 60 up to 100k if you want to the girl. She is the third I have had there although the others were some months ago. 60 and 60 is ok if you want. I gave "L" 150k all done (90+60) because she had to work long and hard to make me cum with her mediocre skills and at one point she gave up but then persisted with more determination and help from my left hand. Plus she got a premium for the tit show.
If you want to know where I found her, PM me. No guarantee she is still there though. With her looks and those massive bangers she can do a lot better with little effort.
JD
Joe Coodidge
03-25-10, 17:32
I ventured out to the local BJ shop I reported on earlier. It was about 10:15pm when I left my hotel and it was probably close to 11pm when I got to the street. As I was walking towards the place I notice that it was dark. None of the places seemed to be opened. I did not have a watch so I do not know exactly what time I was there but it was definitely before midnight.
I did not even think to ask: what time do these shops close? What time do they open? I'm in town for a few more days and wanted to get another trip there before heading home...
Joe
Wangho6969
03-25-10, 20:44
i hear what you are saying jd. but having two young sexy girls sucking my dick at the same time for $10us might be worth it! can't get that in the us!!!
joethe way to do it is to offer the one who makes you cum another tip (say 100k)
and time each ones time in 10 second intervals. they will be trying their hardest to make you cum. i did it one time and they were literally pulling each other off my cock when it was their turn and slurping and sucking and licking and massaging my balls and doing what ever they could think of to make me cum.
make sure that they understand that its technique and not speed that makes you cum or they will be sucking cock at super speed.
it can be quite comical and yet very satisfying as well.
enjoy,
wangho6969
I ventured out to the local BJ shop I reported on earlier. It was about 10:15pm when I left my hotel and it was probably close to 11pm when I got to the street. As I was walking towards the place I notice that it was dark. None of the places seemed to be opened. I did not have a watch so I do not know exactly what time I was there but it was definitely before midnight.
I did not even think to ask: what time do these shops close? What time do they open? I'm in town for a few more days and wanted to get another trip there before heading home...
Joe
All,
They open from 10 AM to 10 PM, give or take a bit.
JD
Viet Seb123
03-30-10, 10:33
Hi all,
I am quite newbie, been looking at posts for a few weeks.
I would like to thank all for good informations you post.
Now it's my turn.
I didn't read anyting about District 2. Here is some street you should go: on Nguyen Duy Trinh there are some Hot Toc, some are regular, and some ar not.
For people living in district 2, so that you don't need to cross the city to go to TB District or else.
Happy Harry
04-03-10, 19:33
This evening I decided to get a post-coital massage to fully loosen up.
As I was driving on Tran Khac Chan Q1 close to NBK and NDC I saw neon signage for FB massage at Spring Hotel.
Basically to cut things short, the facilities were unsophisticated though new-ish, foot massage was excellent (male foot masseur's name: son) - great conversationalist, massage was done by very attractive lazy, boney, girl. The place does not appear to have good staff morale.
Damage..:
To house: 120k body massage, 80k foot massage
Tips: 50k body massage (i was really considering not giving it to her b/c I left within 15 minutes) + 100k for foot guy + 50k for clothes boy. They were trying to pressure me into giving the damn hot manager a 50k for opening the door for me and smiling...
Details are (business card):
Du Xuan/Spring Hotel
3 Tran Khac Chan, Tan Dinh, Q1, HCMC
Phone: 08 6291 5056
Proprietor: Nguyen Hung Sang
Recommended to steer clear.
Ho Chi Minge
04-04-10, 04:59
Damage..:
To house: 120k body massage, 80k foot massage
Tips: 50k body massage (i was really considering not giving it to her b/c I left within 15 minutes) + 100k for foot guy + 50k for clothes boy. They were trying to pressure me into giving the damn hot manager a 50k for opening the door for me and smiling.You got ripped off. foot massage should be included in the 120k - tip the foot guy 50k. tip the clothes boy 10k.
Happy Harry
04-06-10, 03:32
You got ripped off. foot massage should be included in the 120k - tip the foot guy 50k. tip the clothes boy 10k.
I personally chose to pay the guy 100k b/c he was excellent. I knew the going rate.
I didn't know that the 200k for massage + foot was overpriced. I go regularly to Ngoc Anh and they charge 150k just for 60 mins of body massage.
Thanks, I'll take note to give the clothes boy less next time.
BTW, I went to the HT on NTT and the perpendicular to it (something like L...). Definitely an excellent BJ CIM setup.
Thanks to you guys who've led me to it =D
I went to my favorite (formerly) BJ place on NPK last week. I have been going there for 5 years, at the 3 locations they have had on the same street. Always kind of a hit and miss place depending on the girls but the misses were always a lot better than the misses of other places, so it was a good bet nearly every time. But last week around 11am I saw the motliest crew of super unattractive girls I have seen there. I mean not one was even mildly interesting. Ok, it was 11:30 am, early maybe, but still. . . Really awful, at least 6 girls. So I went to their second location a few blocks away (the street with all the Banh Xeo) and saw two real cuties with enormous and real breasts. I went for the the one with the less huge pair (although still tremendous) and her BJ was just ok. She had the skill to go deep on a thick one but she was not willing to employ it over and over again. And strangely, no digital penetration anywhere. I don't like that. Great ball ass too and cute face. 100k to her for CIM and same to the house as I had no small notes.
JD
BTW, I went to the HT on NTT and the perpendicular to it (something like L...). Definitely an excellent BJ CIM setup.
Thanks to you guys who've led me to it =D
Harry, Which HT on NTT? My former favorite now is just a real shit rip-off joint. And it was so good before with very cute young girls and clean fresh smelling rooms and comfy tables. Just sucks now. So looking for a new recommendation on NTT. PM me if you like.
JD
Member #4285
04-06-10, 11:21
So I went to their second location a few blocks away (the street with all the Banh Xeo) and saw two real cuties with enormous and real breasts.
Please, tell me here or on PM the name/location of this place. I jump on a motorbike taxi right away. Promise a report later.
Total 200k?
Tried someplace new today. Massage parlor on Tran Hung Dao near the corner with Le Hong Phong. It's only 40,000 for the massage. My girl was cute and chunky. From what i saw maybe she is the best one. I don't really like VN massage so I endured all the unpleasantness while I waited for the end. She spoke no English. Finally she offered a HJ for 200,000 or a bj for 400,000. I took the HJ with no bargaining...should have bargained. So total damage was 240,000. Just a little more than I pay on NPK.
I got her number. How much do you guys pay for take out?
BTW, I got a couple numbers from NPK but could never arrange anything with my limited VN. So any advice on this subject is welcome.
Tried someplace new today. Massage parlor on Tran Hung Dao near the corner with Le Hong Phong. It's only 40,000 for the massage. My girl was cute and chunky. From what i saw maybe she is the best one. I don't really like VN massage so I endured all the unpleasantness while I waited for the end. She spoke no English. Finally she offered a HJ for 200,000 or a bj for 400,000. I took the HJ with no bargaining...should have bargained. So total damage was 240,000. Just a little more than I pay on NPK.
I got her number. How much do you guys pay for take out?
BTW, I got a couple numbers from NPK but could never arrange anything with my limited VN. So any advice on this subject is welcome.
Hey Milk,
Question: You know that on NPK right in D1 the Blow and Go places are 80k (or100k) to the house and 100k more to the girl for CIM BJ. Same on DBP and DBL. So why would you go out to D5 and find a 40k massa/BJ place and think that the 'price' is 200k for HJ and 400k for BJ? Yeah, I know what she 'said.' Does that sound reasonable or seem logical to you? Furthermore, why 'endure' a massage that you really don't like? What's the point of that? If you don't like her massage, show her what you like. I like neck and shoulder massage as I carry a lot of tension there. So I am happy if the girl only massages my neck and shoulders and I'll demo for her if need be. No need to suffer. You are the paying customer, right? There is no need to give a girl 200k for HJ anywhere in HCMC and certainly no reason to give 400k for a BJ anywhere but in the tourist bars on HBT.
JD
First question of yours: 500k for FS take-out
Second Question of yours: Learn to speak enough Vietnamese
Ho Chi Minge
04-08-10, 04:57
JD, Do you remember the Hot Toc on Nguyen Hu Canh (near to junction of HBT and TQK)? been away for a while and when I came back it had closed. I had a lot of fun there and want to know if it moved or where the girls went to. (seem to remember you said the owners had a couple of other places)
Thanks
JD, Do you remember the Hot Toc on Nguyen Hu Canh (near to junction of HBT and TQK)? been away for a while and when I came back it had closed. I had a lot of fun there and want to know if it moved or where the girls went to. (seem to remember you said the owners had a couple of other places)
Thanks
Do you mean the place on Nguyen Van Nguyen? Closed or moved. The others are on NPK opposite the big cafe and cut-in street (written about here on the Forum over and over) and the third is on the street I never remember the name of except as Banh Xeo St because there are many Banh Xeo restaurants there. It's around the corner. Just don't know the name of the street. Look for the HT with smoked glass doors.
JD
MutantChicken
04-08-10, 08:44
Tried someplace new today. Massage parlor on Tran Hung Dao near the corner with Le Hong Phong. It's only 40,000 for the massage. My girl was cute and chunky. From what i saw maybe she is the best one. I don't really like VN massage so I endured all the unpleasantness while I waited for the end. She spoke no English. Finally she offered a HJ for 200,000 or a bj for 400,000. I took the HJ with no bargaining...should have bargained. So total damage was 240,000. Just a little more than I pay on NPK.
I got her number. How much do you guys pay for take out?
BTW, I got a couple numbers from NPK but could never arrange anything with my limited VN. So any advice on this subject is welcome.I have been to that place I'm pretty sure or the one down the road, 40k for the shop and 100k for a HJ with pussy and tits groping.
I have got numbers in the past but never chased it up, but again 500k for a ST would be a fair price or even lower 300k would be my price.
Ho Chi Minge
04-08-10, 10:52
Do you mean the place on Nguyen Van Nguyen? Closed or moved. The others are on NPK opposite the big cafe and cut-in street (written about here on the Forum over and over) and the third is on the street I never remember the name of except as Banh Xeo St because there are many Banh Xeo restaurants there. It's around the corner. Just don't know the name of the street. Look for the HT with smoked glass doors.
JDThanks. disappointed it's gone. Will try the banh xeo st place. Know where you're talking about.
Okay, so I'm new to Vietnam. I've never been there, however I have lived in Thailand for the last 3 years and thus contributed a lot to that forum. I've perused the threads here and it seems that Vietnam....well it's not the best place for mongering. The MPs seem to be the only places to get action at a decent price. $10 for a blowjob? Where do I sign up? That's half the price of Bangkok! I've RTFF and it seems that if I go to district 7 and take a stroll down Nguyen Thi Thap I can find some beautiful big tittied girl to suck me off, right? I'm in HCMC for 5 days, and Hoi An for about 3. Cheers for any info!
Bijinnampa
04-09-10, 13:38
Yo fellow mongers,
Just happen to be in HCMC for biz two weekends ago. One night only.
Unfortunaly, busy most time, and missed the chance.
But, soon going back again!
Anyway, as I stayed at Lan Lan (which seemed way too uptight to bring a local beauty in.) I saw a barber shop just on the same street.
Unfortunaly 10 minutes before next meeting, so couldn't go in. That place had like 5-6 stunners sitting in the lobby. Is it also one of the (in) famous Hot Toc with BJ/FS everyone knowledgeable of the city so much speak of.
In that case. I blew it this time, rather than someone else doing it.
P.S. Loved the story on 100k for the double BJ to the girl finishing the guy off first. Smart idea to get more action.
Yo fellow mongers,
Just happen to be in HCMC for biz two weekends ago. One night only.
Unfortunaly, busy most time, and missed the chance.
But, soon going back again!
Anyway, as I stayed at Lan Lan (which seemed way too uptight to bring a local beauty in.) I saw a barber shop just on the same street.
Unfortunaly 10 minutes before next meeting, so couldn't go in. That place had like 5-6 stunners sitting in the lobby. Is it also one of the (in) famous Hot Toc with BJ/FS everyone knowledgeable of the city so much speak of.
In that case. I blew it this time, rather than someone else doing it.
P.S. Loved the story on 100k for the double BJ to the girl finishing the guy off first. Smart idea to get more action.
The Hot Toc place across the street from Lan Lan Hotel is Le Duyen. This is a Legit place, the girls will give you a hair wash and a massage. Nothing happens in here so you didn't miss much.
Unfortunaly 10 minutes before next meeting, so couldn't go in. That place had like 5-6 stunners sitting in the lobby. Is it also one of the (in) famous Hot Toc with BJ/FS everyone knowledgeable of the city so much speak of.
Just remember things are not what they look/seem like here. If you think its a FSMP chances are its not.
There are very few of these and are very hard to get to.
On the other hand there are plenty of hair dressers who will dress sexily and wash,massage, trim your nails.
Walked over to district 3 yesterday based on a report here. There's one MP on Dien Bien Phu. Went inside about 11pm. 70k. Sauna and shower, then go upstairs to meet the girl. You cannot choose the girl here. Her name was Tao - probably about 35 yrs old. Good massage. Turns me over and offers a hj/bj. Wants 300k. I goff and bargain down to 200k (she wouldn't go any lower). Horrible. BJ skills were terrible - she licked the tip and that was it. HJ skills were also deplorable. I was able to grope her and finger her but I would not recommend this place.
Walked around district 1 for awhile. THere are these massage girls who advertise massages but they are NOT the ones giving it so I didn't bother. There are motobike girls around pham ngu lao - 300k for an hour but you can bargain down i think. I didn't bother because they are not that hot around this area. Will check out district 7 tonight and hopefully have more luck.
Wow. Your tone is so shitty.
You are right Milkweed, my tone was shitty so let me apologize. I was in a bad mood and one should not be replying here when in a bad mood. Were it an office email I would have saved it to drafts and then re-read it later and softened or deleted it.
Let me try again.
We know from this Forum that there are numerous HT in D1 (NPK) and BT (DBP and DBL) where a ticket is 80k and the tip for CIM BJ is 100k with no discussion of price beforehand. As I have written beforehand, discussion of price beforehand is NOT a standard practice in VN except at shops and with girls looking to rip-off Newbies and tourists.
The HT you went to was in D5 and the ticket only 40k. Those two facts, plus the fact that she was quoting extremely high prices beforehand should alert you that this is an attempted rip-off and to not go along. So you paid 240k for a HJ where you would have paid 200k for a CIM BJ on NPK and DBP and DBL. Better would have been to tell her it's 100k for CIM BJ or just walk out after massage with no cum and give her 50k.
If you can get a HT girl to a hotel, try her at 500k for fuck and suck. Depending on her, her looks and how many offers she has, she may go for that or for more. She has limited time off from the HT and many offers if she is hot, so she goes for highest bidders, not volume of customers.
As foreigners living in Vietnam, if we want to communicate with non-E speaking locals we have 3 choices: 1) If you are looking long-term, send her to E school 2) if you are looking short-term, get a VNese friend to do the communication for you by phone or text 3) lastly, learn enough VNese to communicate and understand what you want.
I have often said here that there is a high English Language premium, about 500k Dong. HBT bar girls can get by in E, some of them are pretty good. But they charge you 600k for BJ and over 1m for FS. Much of this premium is not for looks but for E skills.
Sorry again for previous.
JD
JD. You are a gentleman. And I need to apologize too. My post was rude.
Thanks for the information.
A lot of free time this past weekend. I thought about going to Bui Thi xuan to get a massage from one of the beautiful girls. I think massage + hair wash is 100,000 + tip. But I decided to try a new massage place instead and take a gamble.
I went to a Massage place on Tran Binh Trong (between Ng. Trai and Tran Hung Dao). 70,000 for an hour. You walk in, go past the empty restaurant, see an elevator on your right and go up to the 5th floor.
I saw a few girls here and they look fairly good. They wear short skirts, but they're with sewn in shorts.
Massage was surprisingly good. Not painful, but strong and professional. Well except that I noticed her hand would rest on the bottom of my ass when not in use. A good sign. And sure enough, the leg massage was quite exciting. The most erotic massage that i've ever had. So much teasing and a little tickling. She did this for some time. Then I flipped over and a little more teasing and then.... She wanted to negotiate.
Now, my way of thinking about this is that I should tip about 100,000 for a great massage. So I offered 150,000 (to include massaging "baby"). She said "khong duoc". She tried negotiating further, but i simply declined the "baby" massage.
She continued the massage and it was still great. And she still teased some.
So anyway the massage was 1.5 hours. I paid 100,000 for the massage and 100,000 for the tip.
A lot of free time this past weekend. I thought about going to Bui Thi xuan to get a massage from one of the beautiful girls. I think massage + hair wash is 100,000 + tip. But I decided to try a new massage place instead and take a gamble.
I went to a Massage place on Tran Binh Trong (between Ng. Trai and Tran Hung Dao). 70,000 for an hour. You walk in, go past the empty restaurant, see an elevator on your right and go up to the 5th floor.
I saw a few girls here and they look fairly good. They wear short skirts, but they're with sewn in shorts.
Massage was surprisingly good. Not painful, but strong and professional. Well except that I noticed her hand would rest on the bottom of my ass when not in use. A good sign. And sure enough, the leg massage was quite exciting. The most erotic massage that i've ever had. So much teasing and a little tickling. She did this for some time. Then I flipped over and a little more teasing and then.... She wanted to negotiate.
Now, my way of thinking about this is that I should tip about 100,000 for a great massage. So I offered 150,000 (to include massaging "baby"). She said "khong duoc". She tried negotiating further, but i simply declined the "baby" massage.
She continued the massage and it was still great. And she still teased some.
So anyway the massage was 1.5 hours. I paid 100,000 for the massage and 100,000 for the tip.
Next time you don't negotiate. Don't talk money. It feels good, you are relaxed. Why ruin your experience and interrupt the flow to talk money? Just let her go ahead and massage 'baby'. When all is done, tip her the same 100k, that's fine. No one will question that. 100k is always an ok tip for a hotel massage, no need to tip more with or without HJ. Don't be timid.
Why do so many here adopt the VNese cultural assumption that customers are there to please the workers rather than the other way around?
Hefty tips to cold bargirls/PR girls hoping they may be nicer in the future, 200k for 5 mins tit show, and so on. The main topic here seems to be how to please with big tips, VNese who do little or nothing for us. It's really frustrating and I see why many past contributors have mostly dropped out and become lurkers.
JD
I see your point. But negotiating and talking money was her choice, not mine. So I need to learn how to end the negotiation and get the baby massaged without any obligation to tip big. I agree with you entirely. I'm just not sure how to do it. At this point I know how to end the negotiation, but without the HJ. Massage HJ's are a new area for me. When I figure it out, I will report back.
Maybe just insist on 100,000 and baby massage? I'll try and let you know how it goes.
I see your point. But negotiating and talking money was her choice, not mine. So I need to learn how to end the negotiation and get the baby massaged without any obligation to tip big. I agree with you entirely. I'm just not sure how to do it. At this point I know how to end the negotiation, but without the HJ. Massage HJ's are a new area for me. When I figure it out, I will report back.
Maybe just insist on 100,000 and baby massage? I'll try and let you know how it goes.
You can always pass it back to her. Wave your hand back and forth near your ear and tell her 'up to you' (whether or not to do HJ). Then if she does it, give her 100k after. Or you can tell her 'no HJ, 50k (or 30k or 20k) tip, HJ 100k tip' and let her decide. I'd just look annoyed and tell her it's up to her (theo em). In your case, at that place, she would normally get a 100k tip from a normal customer for massage and HJ. From you she got the 100k without the slight extra work of HJ, so for her it's a good deal anyway. You need to make it a bad deal for her without the HJ. This is similar to what was being discussed in another thread about an unfriendly and cold PR girl or 'hostess'. One poster wrote that if she was really good looking he would give her a bigger than normal tip for her poor behavior, hoping she might be nice to him next time. Other posters strongly disagreed.
But generally you want to avoid these kind of rip-off joints where girls talk about money after they have you excited. These are just the worst kinds of places to go and they are not normal, not standard here in VN except for as I said, in the tourist areas and for newbies. Better to go to Ngoc Anh massage on Ng Cu Trinh or Ng Binh Khiem and get a real 1 hr massage for 150k with no HJ or BJ offered.
JD
...But generally you want to avoid these kind of rip-off joints where girls talk about money after they have you excited. These are just the worst kinds of places to go and they are not normal, not standard here in VN except for as I said, in the tourist areas and for newbies. Better to go to Ngoc Anh massage on Ng Cu Trinh or Ng Binh Khiem and get a real 1 hr massage for 150k with no HJ or BJ offered.
JD
On the topic of clean massages, I used to be a regular at Ngoc Anh. But they get too many customers and have become what I call a 'McDonalds' of massage in HCMC. The last straw for me there was at their Nguyen Binh Khiem location, where I asked for 90 mins (I always do) but got a giggly newbie masseuse who tried to engage in small talk and short-changed me on time - ended around the 1h10min mark.
My regular place now I've been going to for more than a year - clean no-hanky-panky place. My regular masseuse's skillful hands give me a full 90 min shiatsu-chinese tui na-thai combination rub-down that leaves me floating out of there... :)
I see your point. But negotiating and talking money was her choice, not mine. So I need to learn how to end the negotiation and get the baby massaged without any obligation to tip big. I agree with you entirely. I'm just not sure how to do it. At this point I know how to end the negotiation, but without the HJ. Massage HJ's are a new area for me. When I figure it out, I will report back.
Maybe just insist on 100,000 and baby massage? I'll try and let you know how it goes.
Try this:
Em oi, anh qua day de thoai mai thoi. Em lam massage baby cho anh hay la khong thi khong sao, theo em thoi. em cho anh vui, anh biet cham soc nhu the nao nhe. dung co noi nhieu, anh biet lam sao nhe.
"Dearie, I come here to relax. It doesnt matter whether you give me a happy ending or not, its up to you. If you make me happy, I know how I should 'take care' of you. Dont talk too much, I how to do."
I went over to District 7 at about 9 pm. From District 1 it's 50,000 on a motorbike. The dude got lost and it took about 30 minutes. Some advice: have a map on you so you can show him exactly where to go. Anyway I walked down the main street from Lotte Mart and there weren't any SWs that I could see. There were a few hot toc places. I finally just walked into one, chose a girl and went to the back. It's a pretty dodgy area and thus the Hot Toc place looked pretty dirty. The girl's name was "Toy". She got undressed and gave me a bj, CIM. Wasn't a great bj, though - nothing like the Thai girls do. Total damage was 200k. She of course asked for more but I declined and left. Pretty dirty place - hope I didn't catch anything.
The next night I went to district one - near NBK (but south of there - I forget the street name but it's an intersection that Asian Rain has alluded to in the past). I was looking for the motobike girls. The way you can spot them is that they are the girls not wearing helmets and they are just cruising around. 3 stopped in front of me asking if I wanted to fuck them short time. All three quoted me 500k, which I assume doesn't include the hotel. I declined because I thought it was a bit steep and none of them were lookers - way too much makeup and a bit scary looking.
I went over to NBK in district one. Found a few Hot Toc places. I went to the last one on the street. I walked in and chose a hot looking young thing - she was about 19 or 20. 50k for the "massage" and 100k to her - which she asked for upfront. She spoke zero English so I reluctantly agreed. Now I"ve had some bad bjs in my life - but this was the absolute worst. First, she would only lick my shaft. I threatened to get up and leave, but she quickly improved. She would suck for about 5 seconds and then revert to the hj without any kind of lotion, which started to hurt after awhile. I played with her tits, but she kept brushing my hand away. No CIM. She put a towel over my dick when I came. I looked later and had a rash from her violent hj. She asked for a tip. I said "No fucking way" and started to walk out but the manager stopped me and forced me to give her another 50k. I looked at the manager, pointed at the girl and said "She very very very BAD" and gave her the thumbs down and left.
I've come to the conclusion that this country sucks for mongering. It's dirty, overpriced, and difficult to find what you're looking for. Thailand and Cambodia has this country beat in so many ways it's not even funny. My advice: save your money. For a country where the phrases "boom boom" and "love you long time" originated, neither one is actually being practiced. I'm off to Thailand in a few days - it may be a bit more expensive there, but at least access is much easier and more fun.
Apple Banana
04-15-10, 19:19
I've tried a number of the HT places on vo thi sau (d1) and none of them provided any extra services. They even have girls in pinks robes in the front. Does anyone here share the same experience?
There are several good HT places near parksons at the airport.
Member #4285
04-16-10, 00:58
Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say, 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.
Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say, 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.
Hey Kid,
Glad you are having a good time with my recommendation to you via PM. You don't have to refer to me as "a Forum Member", you can use my name to say thanks. After all, that's what the Forum is for. Never any harm in writing back the same way to say thanks, is there?
BTW, as I wrote you, 200k will do. Maybe there will be a new standard at 250k now? Hope not.
The girl with the most massive ones has had help but her slightly smaller colleague has not, right? This place is under the same management as NPK shop referred to here earlier.
JD
Been there two times now, after tip from a forum member.
First time I take a girl with huuuuuuuuuge tits. Fake, but good work I must say. BBBJ CIM 250K. First they say, 400k but I say, no, my friend pay 200k. They say okey but the girl still wanted 250K when I left. Next time I took the other girl whith great tits, a little smaller but still good (my first girl was not around). She asked for 250K as she remembered me from the last time.
Its easy to find, just walk in to the street from the main road. Its on the left side. After the Hot Tuc (B&G) there is a Karaoke-bar I think. I went in there as a mistake first time. They are door to door.
Have fun, well worth 200-250K.
Cheers for that info. I walked in and they asked for 400k. I had to negotiate hard to get it down to 200k. It doesn't say "Hot Toc" on the front so it's a bit confusing - but your directions were spot on. Got a BBBJ CIM from the girl with massive tits. 200k + 50k tip. Her name is Yook or Gyuk - couldn't really understand. She's great though - very friendly and awesome tits. Good technique too.
Joe Coodidge
04-16-10, 17:17
Cheers for that info. I walked in and they asked for 400k. I had to negotiate hard to get it down to 200k. It doesn't say "Hot Toc" on the front so it's a bit confusing - but your directions were spot on. Got a BBBJ CIM from the girl with massive tits. 200k + 50k tip. Her name is Yook or Gyuk - couldn't really understand. She's great though - very friendly and awesome tits. Good technique too.
Was this 200k for the girl or 100k for girl and 100k for house?
So it seems the going rate is now 200k and not 100k as it was just a month ago when I was there.
Still a good bargain in my book. Plus as others have stated, don't start paying their initial asking price!
Was this 200k for the girl or 100k for girl and 100k for house?
So it seems the going rate is now 200k and not 100k as it was just a month ago when I was there.
Still a good bargain in my book. Plus as others have stated, don't start paying their initial asking price!
It's only 200k all done. instead of saying 100k for the house and 100k for the girl, they just say 200k. That's the final price. Maybe they hope some unknowing newbie will tip the girl extra, but it's included already. No need to pay 250k or 300k or whatever when people only ask for 200k.
Pokey Penguin
04-19-10, 08:31
Hefty tips to cold bargirls/PR girls hoping they may be nicer in the future, 200k for 5 mins tit show, and so on. The main topic here seems to be how to please with big tips, VNese who do little or nothing for us. It's really frustrating and I see why many past contributors have mostly dropped out and become lurkers.
JD
JD, may I remind you that the demand of 200K for a 5 minute tit show was REFUSED by the penguin. Even though he was infatuated with the girl, he is not that stupid :)
I don't like MPs in vn. Too many turnoffs, such as the window in the door, the fact that you can't pick your masseuse and must take whatever girl they give you. I don't go to such places because, being picky, I know that the chances of me being assigned a masseuse that is the kind of girl I'm looking for is 1 in 100 -- not worth the admission fee. Hot tocs are better if only because you can pick the girl.
The other problem is that the MP girl usually offers the HJ at the end of the massage, and, if i'm getting a massage for erotic reasons I want it to last a long time. I want to spend the whole session feeling her and her feeling baby. Quickies done in the last 2 minutes just don't satisfy me. Just as I knew that a 5 minute tit show would not do it for me.
The other problem is that the MP girl usually offers the HJ at the end of the massage, and, if i'm getting a massage for erotic reasons I want it to last a long time. I want to spend the whole session feeling her and her feeling baby. Quickies done in the last 2 minutes just don't satisfy me. Just as I knew that a 5 minute tit show would not do it for me.
Go to Thailand, you will have a better time. Please. BTW, you can always choose your own girl, everywhere. You just have to do it or walk.
JD
Hi Johndao, could you tell me some address of HT place for BJ/HJ?
I only try one shop for BJ in DBP for few times and want to jsut something new.
Thanks and I usually pay 100k for BJ as usual
Kindly pm me
Toad.
Hi Johndao, could you tell me some address of HT place for BJ/HJ?
I only try one shop for BJ in DBP for few times and want to jsut something new.
Thanks and I usually pay 100k for BJ as usual
Kindly pm me
Why don't you write up a report first then ask for more info for other shops?
So first the good news. Went to a hj HT on NPK today. Was shown to the VIP room without asking. Asked how much and was told 120,000. *shrug* It's smaller than the main room of course. Had it to myself...I think that is the idea. The girl was hot. Huge eyes and pretty. She asked if i wanted a massage...no. So got down to business. After a little rubbing I stuck my finger in her. She was wet/lubed and the finger slid right in there. She had her legs spread wide and gave me a good angle. When I began exploring her asshole with a finger she reached back to spread her cheeks. So I took my finger out of her and stuck it in the asshole. It put up just a little resistance before I slid it in. That did it for me. A quick session, but good. I tipped 100,000.
Now the bad news. Went to a massage hotel in D5. Girl gave a rough mediocre massage before asking about massaging my "chim". She spoke no English, but asked for 400,000. I laughed. I tried "theo em". Tried to convey that "no chim massage" = 50,000 and "chim massage" = 100,000. She kept pushing for 200,000 so i just shooshed her. She tried asking for 200k for the chim again after she ran out of other things to massage. I told her i was leaving. Gave her a 60,000 tip much to her chagrin. Then the parking guy asked me for 10,000! I paid 2,000 after escalating the matter to some guy in a tie standing at the door. So tired of this crap. Won't go back there.
Girl gave a rough mediocre massage before asking about massaging my "chim".
"Chim" (bird) is the nice word for pussy in Viet. The nice word for penis would be "cu".
Ho Chi Minge
04-24-10, 13:42
"Chim" (bird) is the nice word for pussy in Viet. The nice word to penis would be "cu" is the nice word for penis.Had a long running argument about this word and 'chim' means mean both pussy and penis. it depends where the person comes from.
Member #2234
04-24-10, 14:55
Depends. If she is north Vietnamese then CHIM means penis ;-)
"Chim" (bird) is the nice word for pussy in Viet. The nice word for penis would be "cu".
Bumblebee69
04-26-10, 06:08
Hi guys,
I was in Vietnam last year (first time) and noticed these 'hot toc' salons around Ben Thanh market so decided to check them out. I've been a couple of times for a massa but I would like to know whether these places offer any additional services, since I wouldn't want to look like a tool.
I will be back when I can grab some time off work and would be interested if these places offer HJ, BBBJCIM or even get her number for FS later on. Or should I be looking elsewhere like bars/clubs/k-bars?
Massage/Sauna place on Ky Dong, District 3. In between Truong Dinh and Le Van Sy.
This is a pretty well known place among locals. Its pretty busy most nights and have lots of girls working there. I went after a drunken night out. All the staff there take care of you really well.
Theres an area to have a feet/herbal massage. This is a proper foot massage! For one hour, I tipped the girl 100K cos I was really really happy with the service (havent had a proper foot massage anywhere in vn before).
You can skip this if you want, just tell the guys you want to go straight up to the rooms.
As I came during peak hour 11-1am, the girl i got was so-so (about 6-7 for looks)
Massage was a 9 - a proper massage.
HJ was an 8.
Ticket for Massage place is 150K.
HJ Tip 150K.
Foot Massage 120K.
Foot Massage Tip 100K.
A lot more than I would normally spend but it was a good few hours of relaxation and with a happy ending.
Crocodilexp
04-30-10, 20:51
Depends. If she is north Vietnamese then CHIM means penis ;-)
Aren't you confusing it with Thai? Those two are Thai baby words for penis (จิ๋ม chim) and vagina (จู๋ chu). Grown up equivalents (not too impolite) are hoy หอย and khoy ควย.
I guess there is a small chance Vietnamese baby words are the same, but I doubt it.
Member #2234
05-01-10, 00:57
No confusion, I speak fluent Viet ;)
Aren't you confusing it with Thai? Those two are Thai baby words for penis (จิ๋ม chim) and vagina (จู๋ chu). Grown up equivalents (not too impolite) are hoy หอย and khoy ควย.
I guess there is a small chance Vietnamese baby words are the same, but I doubt it.
I am here at Ho Chi Minh for 3 days, staying at Sofitel. I initially didn't intend to try VN gals (but realized I can't resist it!) as I am traveling with my step brother who is much younger than I am (obviously I can't bring home to the hotel). So the only way I can have a try is to go to a massage parlor for a HJ (would really want a BJ), or hopefully FS!. But I have no idea where to find/bring them. I've read about JDs post about moto girls near the US consulate but don't have any idea how/where to go after. And yeah I don't speak any Vietnamese.
I will again look at the map and see if there are places near the hotel. Or a place where I am sure to get some action. But if someone can extend some help to a needy fellow it would be awesome! Specific place/instruction would help. I am really having a hard time at the map and pronouncing them to the taxi driver.
Regards,
A
While going around ben thanh market i saw hair salons with pretty ladies in uniforms inside the glass doors. Anything going around these places?
They look too cute to be hair dressers.
I am here at Ho Chi Minh for 3 days, staying at Sofitel. I initially didn't intend to try VN gals (but realized I can't resist it!) as I am traveling with my step brother who is much younger than I am (obviously I can't bring home to the hotel). So the only way I can have a try is to go to a massage parlor for a HJ (would really want a BJ), or hopefully FS!. But I have no idea where to find/bring them. I've read about JDs post about moto girls near the US consulate but don't have any idea how/where to go after. And yeah I don't speak any Vietnamese.
I will again look at the map and see if there are places near the hotel. Or a place where I am sure to get some action. But if someone can extend some help to a needy fellow it would be awesome! Specific place/instruction would help. I am really having a hard time at the map and pronouncing them to the taxi driver.
Regards,
A
There are cheap GF hotels on Hai Bai Trung - some of them opposite the park. You can probably get a shagging room there for $20 a night or so.
RTF - you will not find FS in the massage joints.
While going around ben thanh market i saw hair salons with pretty ladies in uniforms inside the glass doors. Anything going around these places?
They look too cute to be hair dressers.
They do massage without extras - but some are amenable to meetings after work.
Thanks!
After being in HCM for a couple of days I have much more courage to bold these HJ/BJ places. I have been to a lot of SEA countries but of course I want to thread carefully to avoid any unpleasant event.
I have narrowed it down for me, places which are accessible. DCT or NPK. I will probably take a look at NBK and NDH for FS but I am still unsure how it goes and the safety of it.
There are somethings I want to clarify:
1. Tip is given to the mamasan? I will just have to write the amount on the tip paper the girl gives me then pay the room + tip at the end?
2. Any specific place at NPK?
3. As for this moto-girls, do I ride with her? If the girl is ok 500 will be ok. Then she will bring me to a hotel. As Sudsoz said around HBT. So rate is about 100/hr right?
Traveler1234
05-06-10, 01:15
OK, in HCMC on business with some overseas guests. One of them is regular here so we all booked same hotel. They did a recent renovation that includes nice little pool for laps and updated/brand new massage facility. They charge $15/hr but as guest, it's $8. What the hell, legit place, $8 plus another $5 tip for a one hour massage....go for it.
So after my afternoon swim laps, book one hour. Keep in mind there is a long hallway with massage rooms on each side, all with smoke glass windows and doors that cover the top half of each room, clearly semi-visible inside if you walk by. After about 45 minutes into the massage, young cutie wanders near my crouch, asks me for special - kinda of surprised since we're literally in the open. Politely declined; she felt embarrassed for asking, kept on saying sorry, sorry, sorry?
Second day, same routine, different girl. This one was upfront, less than 15 minutes into the massage, asked about special. I asked is this regular request from customer; she says yes. I ask how much, she says 400-500K....I politely chuckle and decline -- this one seemed upset that i was wasting her time?
So if you want an expensive HJ, visit the Kimdo Hotel! Me, waiting to visit Jkt this weekend to get some nice ceweks :)
Second day, same routine, different girl. This one was upfront, less than 15 minutes into the massage, asked about special. I asked is this regular request from customer; she says yes. I ask how much, she says 400-500K....I politely chuckle and decline -- this one seemed upset that i was wasting her time?
So if you want an expensive HJ, visit the Kimdo Hotel! Me, waiting to visit Jkt this weekend to get some nice ceweks :)It doesn't have to be expensive. If you want a HJ, indicate it to her. HJ is not sex. There is no need to negotiate a price and certainly no reason to ask 'how much'? This is the worst possible question to ask. When your massage is finished, give her the tip you want to give. That's what a tip is. If she complains, ignore her. If you giver her 100k she will ask for 200k, but if you gave her 200k she will ask for 300k or 400k. It doesn't matter, they will always ask for more than you give them. But the deed is done, the hour is over, you are finished so give your tip and go. Tip should not be more than the cost of the massage (in this case about 150k).
JD
Traveler1234
05-06-10, 12:04
It doesn't have to be expensive. If you want a HJ, indicate it to her. HJ is not sex.
Thanks for the heads up on this. The only reason why I even posted was because Astig below happened to be asking where to get a HJ. I totally agree HJ isn't sex - which is why I haven't had one for over 30 years.
There is no need to negotiate a price and certainly no reason to ask 'how much'? This is the worst possible question to ask. Really? Thanks for your very educational "tip", it's priceless and you were so fucking nice to share it with us for free!
Btw us, the only reason I asked was to see what she would ask for; I had absolutely no interest in getting one.
Tip should not be more than the cost of the massage (in this case about 150k).
JD
I'm such a flaming greenhorn, I gave them each 100K for nothing. I ruined the market for you local experts....sorry about that.
Thanks!
After being in HCM for a couple of days I have much more courage to bold these HJ/BJ places. I have been to a lot of SEA countries but of course I want to thread carefully to avoid any unpleasant event.
I have narrowed it down for me, places which are accessible. DCT or NPK. I will probably take a look at NBK and NDH for FS but I am still unsure how it goes and the safety of it.Will be on business trip for 4 days (first time) in a few weeks.
Can you explain me what/where is DCT / NPK?
Thanks!
After being in HCM for a couple of days I have much more courage to bold these HJ/BJ places. I have been to a lot of SEA countries but of course I want to thread carefully to avoid any unpleasant event.
I have narrowed it down for me, places which are accessible. DCT or NPK. I will probably take a look at NBK and NDH for FS but I am still unsure how it goes and the safety of it.I will be on a business trip to HCM soon (first time) and will be looking for HJ/BJ. I'll be staying in District 1. Can you please explain me what/where is DCT / NPK?
Thanks.
All other tips welcome!
Knight 1001
05-07-10, 05:47
OK, in HCMC .....
So if you want an expensive HJ, visit the Kimdo Hotel! Me, waiting to visit Jkt this weekend to get some nice ceweks :)
Bro,
First of all, the HJ is, in most cases, included in the basic price of the massage and justifies the tip; but .. you cannot blame the girls for trying ... it must work with a few foreigners for sure,
Second, to do it they just put a towel on you and proceed with it, though everyone knows what goes on in there, so it does not matter if the glass door is a see through or not;
Third, ... guys ... having a HJ in Vietnam is like going to a huge buffet with your own sandwich ....
So I tried walking the entire stretch of DCT earlier and as previously posted -it is a little confusing to find the place. While i had an idea where it was I did not brave to find out. It was a mistake to go to DCT on my first crack at these places since it is my first time to visit this places. I should have tried NPK first.
So I walked to NPK and boy it is an awfully hot day! I thought Id have a heat stroke! Anyway I just walked down the street scouting these HTs and getting a feel of them. I braved to enter one and was greeted warmly. so I got the confidence to look at around 4 more. The selection were OK.. many girls to choose from. I finally chose one HT. I am Asian but I do not speak the language so I had a hard time figuring out what the mamasan was saying. She wrote 100. I do not know if it was including tip already. Anyway I just chose a girl, when up, had the pinch massage, groping, fingering, HT and finally BJ. After that the girl was trying to massage me more but it was more of poking so I just motioned her to stop. I got what I came for anyway. When I went down I just handed the mamasan 200. The girl looked happy so I dont know if I overpayed.. it seemed to be the prevailing rate nowadays and since I cant speak the language I couldnt bargain it down.
I got busier than intended so FS will have to wait for another trip. But I doubt I can get it w/o knowing the language.
Thanks all for the FRs.
A
Traveler1234
05-08-10, 01:36
Bro,
First of all, the HJ is, in most cases, included in the basic price of the massage and justifies the tip; but .. you cannot blame the girls for trying ... it must work with a few foreigners for sure,
Second, to do it they just put a towel on you and proceed with it, though everyone knows what goes on in there, so it does not matter if the glass door is a see through or not;
Third, ... guys ... having a HJ in Vietnam is like going to a huge buffet with your own sandwich ....
LOL....
I guess it's me. When I want a legit massage, visit what I think is a legit MP (I thought this place as legit, my bad!). When I was pussy, I go to where there's at least BJ or ideally FS included.
Arriving at our favorite monger site later today, sorry we're going to miss each other again. :D
My fav place on NPK remain the same as before, except the ticket been raised to 90K. Tips stand at 100K as usual.
It's right after the coffee shop, small narrow corridor about 10m. I never remember the name but you can't miss it.
Also notice a new shop just open 3 doors accross the street called Hong Duc, same set up I guess.
You can have release two loads with extra 30K but tips should be double.
Happy blowing.
This is cute, friendly, young massage girl Quynh up in Tan Binh. Check out those hairy lower legs, this girl has got some hormones going. Hot bod and hot BJ too. ..
JD
Knight 1001
05-27-10, 22:16
This is cute, friendly, young massage girl Quynh up in Tan Binh. . ..
JD
Hi Bro,
What is the addres of this massage please?
Thanks
Rob Doobing
06-03-10, 09:09
I felt horny and dis-occupied, decided to give NPK a try.
I saw three establishments along that street, two on the right, one on the left side, according to traffic direction. I visited both houses on the right side within a large hour's time.
First Hong Duc at Nr 74.
Nice and friendly welcome, joked the girls about whom would do me, chose two and let hem decide who would finally go. A young girl in her early twenties called Hai, proceeded with the usual routine, very nice massage around the legs and the crotch, went to business on the boy; questioned why she would not suck it, she said the house was a fine establishment and did not allow blow jobs. Well, it was a nice and enjoyable massage with a long slow hand job; the lady was nice, a good and friendly body and nice boobs. What the hell, she got the tip for HJ only, 150k, the house ticket was 150k too for the VIP room. Does not have much more comfort than the regular, just 50k dearer.
Then Thanh at Nr 84
Just a few steps away and back into the shop. Same welcoming routine; The line up in my view slightly less attractive; chose one lady, Huong, around her 30s, suitable to my requirements. Went upstairs, was lead into one room, one procedure on-going there already, behind curtains as usual, temperature was too hot for my taste, was lead again to the VIP room. The procedure there went much more diverse with both parties fingers exploring each other in details, blow job was very much available, and well administered. A good and enjoyable session then. Damage 200k for tip and 150k to the house.
Worth coming back and giving a try to the third establishment, the one on the left hand side almost opposite Thanh's Nr 74.
I felt horny and dis-occupied, decided to give NPK a try.
I saw three establishments along that street, two on the right, one on the left side, according to traffic direction. I visited both houses on the right side within a large hour's time.
What the hell, she got the tip for HJ only, 150k, the house ticket was 150k too for the VIP room. Does not have much more comfort than the regular, just 50k dearer.
Then Thanh at Nr 84
A good and enjoyable session then. Damage 200k for tip and 150k to the house.
Worth coming back and giving a try to the third establishment, the one on the left hand side almost opposite Thanh's Nr 74.
Great reports Rob, thanks, glad u had a good time. As you may note from reading through the Forum here, numerous reports from myself and others, the total fee is only 200k. It's actually 90k to the house and 100k to the girl. If you apppear not to know this or if you ask, they will take you for more, as that is their nature and it's like picking pockets only with permission.
Apple Banana
06-13-10, 16:11
Just a general report on hot tocs on ung van khiem. They have a lot of small ones on this street. Especially around uvk and duong d1 or d2. I went inside one and didn't have a very good experience there. Just an HJ. The girls in the place that I selected (forgot the name but started with Mai.) weren't that good looking and the service was pretty bad and short. At least the chick had nice tits.
Damage was 150k. I probably overpaid given the quality of service, but not going there again. They do have a lot of them there though. I would suggest others to check it out. Can go up xo viet nghe tinh and turn right. They also have a few cafe oms on the same street some of the girls look cute.
Hope someone finds this brief useful.
These 'Hot Toc' places sound fun but very local - is it possible to visit with no Vietnamese language ability?
Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
1- All the massages offer HJ, that's for sure, only 1% don't (handicaped, blind massage), some offer BJ and the girls won't be as pretty.
2- Hot toc means HJ AND higher chance for BJ with prettier girl. Plus you have a chance to pick the girl for yourself. If you know the right place(private room, close door and the right girls), F is no problem. This is the best choice.
However, most the Hottocs in district 1 have very strict rules so there won't be any HJ BJ whatsoever, example of this would be Dmax, LD1-4 v. V.
Most foreigners living long enough in VN would know about NPK, DCT etc for a Hot toc BJ for around 200K. However, the room doesn't have closed door, you share the room with the other 3-4 guys and the conditions aren't clean. I never bother to have a BJ here because of the high chance to get diseases. If I were on a budget, this is still fine.
3- Call-Girls, don't be afraid to change the girl if you don't like her. Never let her into your room if you don't like her. If you let her in, that means you have to pay. It is a bit tricky here, sometimes the $200/hour girl is worse than a $50 one. In this case, you are being overcharged.
I hope this would help a bit. If you want, email me at [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
1- All the massages offer HJ, that's for sure, only 1% don't (handicaped, blind massage), some offer BJ and the girls won't be as pretty.
2- Hot toc means HJ AND higher chance for BJ with prettier girl. Plus you have a chance to pick the girl for yourself. If you know the right place(private room, close door and the right girls), F is no problem. This is the best choice.
However, most the Hottocs in district 1 have very strict rules so there won't be any HJ BJ whatsoever, example of this would be Dmax, LD1-4 v. V.
Most foreigners living long enough in VN would know about NPK, DCT etc for a Hot toc BJ for around 200K. However, the room doesn't have closed door, you share the room with the other 3-4 guys and the conditions aren't very clean. I never bother to have a BJ here because of the high chance to get diseases. If I were on a budget, this is still fine.
3- Call-Girls, don't be afraid to change the girl if you don't like her. Never let her into your room if you don't like her. If you let her in, that means you have to pay. It is a bit tricky here, sometimes the $200/hour girl is worse than a $50 one. In this case, you are being overcharged.
I hope this would help a bit. If you want, email me at [Email address deleted by Admin]
PS: I have a wife and a very tight working schedule so sneaking out at lunch time is the best option for me. I could help you get the best of your time in HCMC.
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Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
1- All the massages offer HJ, that's for sure, only 1% don't (handicaped, blind massage), some offer BJ and the girls won't be as pretty.
2- Hot toc means HJ AND higher chance for BJ with prettier girl. Plus you have a chance to pick the girl for yourself. If you know the right place(private room, close door and the right girls), F is no problem. This is the best choice.
However, most the Hottocs in district 1 have very strict rules so there won't be any HJ BJ whatsoever, example of this would be Dmax, LD1-4 v. V.
Most foreigners living long enough in VN would know about NPK, DCT etc for a Hot toc BJ for around 200K. However, the room doesn't have closed door, you share the room with the other 3-4 guys and the conditions aren't very clean. I never bother to have a BJ here because of the high chance to get diseases. If I were on a budget, this is still fine.
3- Call-Girls, don't be afraid to change the girl if you don't like her. Never let her into your room if you don't like her. If you let her in, that means you have to pay. It is a bit tricky here, sometimes the $200/hour girl is worse than a $50 one. In this case, you are being overcharged.
All in all, going in a luxury spa and spend $25 total for BJ and Fuck in a private room plus I can choose the girl myself is the best choice for sure.
I hope this would help a bit. If you want, pm me on the forum.
PS: I have a wife and a very tight working schedule so sneaking out at lunch time is the best option for me. I could help you get the best of your time in HCMC.
Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience...
Yo yo 'sup bruh? Thanks for the triple posting. Jus one question: I know about the "$25 total for BJ and Fuck in a private room plus I can choose the girl myself" bit but 'luxury spa'?? That's pushing it, aint it? Either that or its a very well kept secret? :D
Sup, I am currently living in HCMC and have vast experience.
You have pretty much already told us what we already know. A lot of generalizations and nothing exact.
How about some reports of MP's that you duck off to.
Any reports will be welcome.
Sry I was confused for the 1st time posting, apparently there was some laggy issues so triple posts.
I could understand "luxury spa" you meant expensive hotels like park hyatt, sheraton, kumho continental etc. I have been to some of them and they are indeed luxury. But they don't even have HJ let alone BJ or F because they can't risk losing their operating license and the country reputation in an area swarming with high position businessmen. And even without "extra" services, they still got tons of cash from clueless come and go customers anyway so why bother.
I am not talking about Hottocs where a customer pays 10 bucks for BJ and still thinks it is overpriced. It is not since the local ppls pay the same or even more than that because he wants to impress the girl.
For 1 example. Go to Su V? And H? Nh street in district 10 and have a look for yourself. There are many salons there at the same luxury level as those in district 1 with extra services. Just by looking at the young, lovely and juicy girls and the place through the flashy mirror doors you would know right away what I meant by calling NPK, DBL, DCT cheap. Tickets alone would be $10-$15 for 2 hours depended on medium or large rooms, enough to prevent low class customers but not much at all to the well doers. I have private bathroom inside the room with hot shower, a nice warm massage bed and I got to choose from more than 20 girls available. I would take a bath 1st, wrap myself in a thick furry towel, lie down on the massage bed. The girl would give me a massage and with the mood we could both strip off all our covers for "further services". Now isn't that something you call luxury. It is human service so don't be cheap, $15-20 tip is the norm here and if you feel the service is adequate or you want to impress her or take her out later after work, $30-40-50 is nothing out of ordinary. I do it all the times. Of course, you could tip $5 no problem, no questions asked, the tip is up to the customer, but I would advise against it if you want to have the same nice service for the next time.
Another example would be Korean town in Tan Binh near the airport, their spas are amazingly well-managed. A well lit, luxury look reception areas and the girls wearing GEISHA outfit . They only welcome foreigners and most of the customers are Korean, Japanese. Even the most experienced Vietnamese players can't enter the places. Luckily, I have a foreign passport =).
Who say Vietnam is boring compared to Thailand? Think again I am proud that Vietnamese ladies are one of the most beautiful creatures in Asia. Thanks God I am living here.
They only welcome foreigners and most of the customers are Korean, Japanese.
And the occasional Aussie and sometimes Pom (you know who you are) :P
Su Van Hanh**, it seems the forum doesnt have the font.
MutantChicken
07-14-10, 05:55
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For 1 example. Go to Su V? And H? Nh street in district 10 and have a look for yourself. .Can some one clarify these streets?
Su Van Hanh**, it seems the forum doesnt have the font.
Su Van Hanh Q10 is door-to-door no-tell hotels. Where would you find the "young, lovely and juicy girls and the place through the flashy mirror doors", pray tell?
Ho Chi Minge
07-14-10, 10:19
Su Van Hanh Q10 is door-to-door no-tell hotels. Where would you find the "young, lovely and juicy girls and the place through the flashy mirror doors", pray tell?I know the area quite well so let me give you what I know. Su Van Hanh (noi dai) between 3/2 st and To Hien Thanh st has 5 hot tocs on the street (including a new one that opened today) and at least 2 in the alleys off the street. I've been coming to this area for over 3 years and have tried 5 of them. They look like the standard upscale hot tocs you find in Bui Thi Xuan or around Ben Thanh Market but extras are available in some places from HJ, BJ, naked BJ to full sex.
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner.
25 meters up from An Chi 1 is another place (think its called Thuy Linh). Went few times last year but no extras were available.
Down one of the hems that runs between SVH and Le Hong Phong is another hot toc that offers HJ and probably more depending on the girl.
For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.
Ho Chi Minge
07-14-10, 10:23
I have private bathroom inside the room with hot shower, a nice warm massage bed and I got to choose from more than 20 girls available. I would take a bath 1st, wrap myself in a thick furry towel, lie down on the massage bed. The girl would give me a massage and with the mood we could both strip off all our covers for "further services".What is the name of this place? Never been to one in SVH with private bathroom en-suite.
Toddtworip
07-14-10, 22:53
I know the area quite well so let me give you what I know. Su Van Hanh (noi dai) between 3/2 st and To Hien Thanh st has 5 hot tocs on the street (including a new one that opened today) and at least 2 in the alleys off the street. I've been coming to this area for over 3 years and have tried 5 of them. They look like the standard upscale hot tocs you find in Bui Thi Xuan or around Ben Thanh Market but extras are available in some places from HJ, BJ, naked BJ to full sex.
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. Had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner.
25 meters up from An Chi 1 is another place (think its called Thuy Linh). Went few times last year but no extras were available.
Down one of the hems that runs between SVH and Le Hong Phong is another hot toc that offers HJ and probably more depending on the girl.
For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.Hello,
For us newbies, if you walk WEST out of Tao Dan Park, cross Cach Mang Thang Tam and into Bui Thi Xuan Street. Will us newbies be able to find some places on this street not too far a walk from the Park?
Thanks
Toddtworip
Ho Chi Minge
07-15-10, 11:07
Hello,
For us newbies, if you walk WEST out of Tao Dan Park, cross Cach Mang Thang Tam and into Bui Thi Xuan Street. Will us newbies be able to find some places on this street not too far a walk from the Park?
Thanks
ToddtworipYes. you can't miss them. but there's no extras at these places. You can get phone numbers and take the girls out after work but I reckon the girls are high maintenance.
Hello,
For us newbies, if you walk WEST out of Tao Dan Park, cross Cach Mang Thang Tam and into Bui Thi Xuan Street. Will us newbies be able to find some places on this street not too far a walk from the Park?
Thanks
Toddtworip
Yes, you will find places for hair wash, cut, ear cleaning, full body, fully clothed massage in common room, etc. The girls may be very very pretty. There is no sex nor anything even like sex in these places. And as anywhere in Vietnam you meet women, you can ask for their phone numbers and offer to take them out. Nothing special about asking these women vs asking any others. But they usually are the types that don't want to waste time where they are not earning. Better luck with the pretty ladies selling makeup and jewelry on the first floor of most 'high-end' shopping malls.
JD
I know the area quite well so let me give you what I know. Su Van Hanh (noi dai) between 3/2 st and To Hien Thanh st has 5 hot tocs on the street (including a new one that opened today) and at least 2 in the alleys off the street. I've been coming to this area for over 3 years and have tried 5 of them. They look like the standard upscale hot tocs you find in Bui Thi Xuan or around Ben Thanh Market but extras are available in some places from HJ, BJ, naked BJ to full sex.
On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.
Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner.
25 meters up from An Chi 1 is another place (think its called Thuy Linh). Went few times last year but no extras were available.
Down one of the hems that runs between SVH and Le Hong Phong is another hot toc that offers HJ and probably more depending on the girl.
For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.My In-laws live off SVH across from Trường Đại học Ngoại ngữ - Tin học. I've walked SVH all the way up to Hung Vuong and spotted several places along the way. I especially enjoy walking past Lư Thái Tổ and going over to the little park on Ba Hat where it joins Ngô Gia Tự. Always find at least 3-4 motogirls very cute that stop and ask me if I want anything. An Dong market is a hangout for me too, but too close to home and my wife knows too many girls selling there. I just go to talk to friends and buy stuff. I was trying to remember the name of the massage place my brother-in-law tooke me to on Lê Văn Sỹ, the girls were very pretty and you got shower, steam room and massage for 100K, tip for the girl was 100K too for HE. They will try to ask for 200K but just stand firm with them. I imagine they are available for take out if you get their number, but I didn't have time for that.
My wife is going to HCMC in October and staying until March. I'll be there just before Tet and coming back with her then. Hopefully I'll have some time to do some mongering while I'm there and maybe even meet some of you guys there too.
I went to the An Chi 2 hot toc off of SVH. It's down the alley at the beef steak place. The rooms are great. They have a full bed and bathroom. The girls are so so. I found one cute one. She was a little chubby, but looked sexy.
Service provided was hj/bj with bra and undies pulled down. Service was poor. And came with a lot of negotiating and complaining.
Tip was (after a very very hard negotiation) 200,000. Ticket was 200,000 for one hour in the room.
I think NPK is a much better value and experience. I wouldn't mind paying more if i got more, but all i got was a lot of hassle. At NPK things are very smooth for me and the cost is 1/2 what I paid at SVH.
On a side note, the girl at SVH complained that i took too long. She said VN guys "release" quickly. I do take a while, but why rush it? VN men can take 2 hours to drink a tiny amount of coffee. They savor it and enjoy it. So I don't know why they don't do the same at the hot toc. Especially if you're paying 200,000 for one hour.
Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.
Toddtworip
07-18-10, 21:01
Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.110 Dien Bien Pho - Benny Hot Toc.
So what does the "Q BT" stand for?
110 Dien Bien Pho - Benny Hot Toc.
So what does the "Q BT" stand for?Quan Ben Thanh.
I think - it's the name of the district.
110 Dien Bien Pho - Benny Hot Toc.
So what does the "Q BT" stand for?
District Binh Thanh
Yes, sorry.
District (Quan) Binh Thanh, Ward (Phuong) 17, to be exact. Just over the bridge from D1. Enjoy!
Quan Ben Thanh.
I think - it's the name of the district.
Ben Thanh is the market. Binh Thanh is the District.
Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.
Yes, for those who have been here a year or so you may remember I provided the address AND map of Ben Ny's a while back. This is standard Saigon Blow and Go with no talk of money before or after. Anyone who gets bargaining or demands for certain tips before or after service is in a newbie/tourist rip-off joint. It's not normal for girls to ask for tips in Saigon, but nevertheless this is the treatment many of the unaware are subjected to, especially when going to the wrong type of places, especially HJ only places in D1.
JD
Ben Thanh is the market. Binh Thanh is the District.My fault.
Thanks for clarification.
Yes, for those who have been here a year or so you may remember I provided the address AND map of Ben Ny's a while back. This is standard Saigon Blow and Go with no talk of money before or after. Anyone who gets bargaining or demands for certain tips before or after service is in a newbie/tourist rip-off joint. It's not normal for girls to ask for tips in Saigon, but nevertheless this is the treatment many of the unaware are subjected to, especially when going to the wrong type of places, especially HJ only places in D1.
JDYes sir! I just wanted to update the address and save the others some time in digging through all the post.
Take care!
Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.
Went today. I think the women weren't amazing looking. And my girl was a little older and thinner than I like. I see better looking ones at my regular hot toc on NPK. But...the service was excellent. This girl knows how to bbbj. And yeah, like you said, it's an easy no-hassle experience. Thanks for the tip. I'll go back.
Original Mint
08-01-10, 07:23
Yes, for those who have been here a year or so you may remember I provided the address AND map of Ben Ny's a while back. This is standard Saigon Blow and Go with no talk of money before or after. Anyone who gets bargaining or demands for certain tips before or after service is in a newbie/tourist rip-off joint. It's not normal for girls to ask for tips in Saigon, but nevertheless this is the treatment many of the unaware are subjected to, especially when going to the wrong type of places, especially HJ only places in D1.
JDHi,
I've been a lurker for quite some time but I don't recall seeing this particular topic covered for hot tocs, but I was wondering a couple of things. I'd appreciate it if anyone could provide their personal take on the matter.
1) Is it generally "ok" to ask for a particular girl? If not, is there a steadfast method to make that distinction if you can or can't?
With massage type places I have no qualms about asking for a different girl or a better masseuse if the service isn't very good. It's the whole 'hot toc' thing I'm not familiar with at all.
2) What's the 'standard' duration you can stay at these places while being, how shall we say, "serviced"?
It's happened to me before where I errantly think of some horrible image like my sister- total buzz kill to say the least. I sometimes wind up having to extend the session which is fine, but it's frustrating when they say you've run out of time when you actually haven't.
Also, thanks to everyone for the tips/contributions. It's reassuring to know what the standard market prices are for services x, y, and z. This forum has been quite enlightening. I'm already finding it tedious dealing with the Vietnamese people when it comes to pricing. I worry more about getting overcharged than having someone actually steal my wallet. The whole phenomenon with overtipping or tipping in general really does sour things when taken into perspective.
Hi,
I've been a lurker for quite some time but I don't recall seeing this particular topic covered for hot tocs, but I was wondering a couple of things.April 2009, with map
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=875756#post875756
To answer one of your questions: It is perfectly normal to choose whichever girl girl you want at a Hot Toc and just smile and ignore the one they push on you if you don't want her. Don't think twice about it, nothing to be shy about, totally standard for customer to choose.
JD
Toddtworip
08-07-10, 05:30
In a past report, someone stated that a good massage hotel with HJ can be had over at the
"Minh Tanh Hotel"
1. I can not find any information on a Minh Tanh Hotel on the internet or hotel sites. Does this hotel still exist and is this the correct spelling? or was there a name change?
2. The report stated that it is "Near War Museum"
Well if they are talking about the popular War Remnants Museum is it:
the street across MGM? and what does MGM stand for?
Thanks !
FoxySimone
08-07-10, 09:36
Hi all,
Has anyone heard or used tour69.net
In all google searches they come up pretty much on top. Just wondering if someone has used their services or is it a scam?
Thanks and have fun
Newbie From Vza
08-07-10, 19:53
In a past report, someone stated that a good massage hotel with HJ can be had over at the
"Minh Tanh Hotel"
1. I can not find any information on a Minh Tanh Hotel on the internet or hotel sites. Does this hotel still exist and is this the correct spelling? or was there a name change?
2. The report stated that it is "Near War Museum"
Well if they are talking about the popular War Remnants Museum is it:
the street across MGM? and what does MGM stand for?
Thanks !Hello Todd,
I think you are referring to one of my old posts.
Its been long 2 yrs since I was in HCMC but still remember the place fondly.
After 2 yrs I dont remember the places exactly. But I am sure the following will lead you to Minh Tan Hotel.
Take a taxi from anywhere in District 1. Tell him go to MGM. Its a disco place. Cross the road from MGM and walk 10 meters right and u will enter a street. Walk about 2 min. You will find Minh Tan on your left side of the street.
Hope they are still the same. Good luck.
I
So, I'm in HCMC for a few days and I want to try some of the local "goods" :)
I'm new to SEA and I'm really unsure how all this stuff is handled.
From what I read I understand that there are either bars where you can pick up girls and take them to a hotel or "massage" places where you can get hj/bjs. Right?
I think I will stick to the second for now. Are there any good places of that type near district 1 where I at least know my way a little bit?
Is the place on 90 (110?) dien bien phu still active/suitable for newcomers who dont speak a work of vietnamese?
Ho Chi Minge
08-07-10, 23:25
In a past report, someone stated that a good massage hotel with HJ can be had over at the
"Minh Tanh Hotel"Maybe Minh Tam hotel on Le Quy Don Street. check a map.
Hi all,
Has anyone heard or used tour69.net
In all google searches they come up pretty much on top. Just wondering if someone has used their services or is it a scam?
Thanks and have fun
Tour69 had a number of profiles advertising their services at tagged. I think they all got shutdown.
If you are in town for 24 hrs or so with no time for homework then they might be worth considering. Otherwise there are too many other options.
Hi all,
I'm in HCMC for a couple of weeks.
I have tried a bs called Tulip in Q. TB.
The experience was good and cost me 800k for a 1h full service massage. (massage + fj) I don't know if it is the correct price or not?!
The girls were really pretty and you could choose the one you want! I chose one with 3/4 shaved and tight pussy. It was so good!
I went on NPK streets at around 3pm on Saturday. But, everything seemed to be closed. I even saw a shop with "can tho goi" written on a sheet of paper, but it was closed.
Last night, I went on a street with 2 or 3 "hot toc" with girls inside, but I didn't try it.
It was on "nguyen thuong hien" if my memory is correct. Don't know if anyone has ever been in these places? It was a narrow street. But, I still have difficulty to remember the name of the street.
Hi all,
I'm in HCMC for a couple of weeks.
I have tried a bs called Tulip in Q. TB.
The experience was good and cost me 800k for a 1h full service massage. (massage + fj) I don't know if it is the correct price or not?!
The girls were really pretty and you could choose the one you want! I chose one with 3/4 shaved and tight pussy. It was so good!
I went on NPK streets at around 3pm on Saturday. But, everything seemed to be closed. I even saw a shop with "can tho goi" written on a sheet of paper, but it was closed.
Last night, I went on a street with 2 or 3 "hot toc" with girls inside, but I didn't try it.
It was on "nguyen thuong hien" if my memory is correct. Don't know if anyone has ever been in these places? It was a narrow street. But, I still have difficulty to remember the name of the street.
MutantChicken
08-09-10, 16:34
Hi all,
I'm in HCMC for a couple of weeks.
I have tried a bs called Tulip in Q. TB.
The experience was good and cost me 800k for a 1h full service massage. (massage + fj) I don't know if it is the correct price or not?!
The girls were really pretty and you could choose the one you want! I chose one with 3/4 shaved and tight pussy. It was so good!
I went on NPK streets at around 3pm on Saturday. But, everything seemed to be closed. I even saw a shop with "can tho goi" written on a sheet of paper, but it was closed.
Last night, I went on a street with 2 or 3 "hot toc" with girls inside, but I didn't try it.
It was on "nguyen thuong hien" if my memory is correct. Don't know if anyone has ever been in these places? It was a narrow street. But, I still have difficulty to remember the name of the street.The price normally 500-600 in total.
I think matty1 was also tipping the toad for that price
Who is the toad ?
I went to the place by moto-taxi.
The whole day was 800k! sorry.
Do you know if there is soapy massage place or service in town?
Hi all,
Has anyone heard or used tour69.net
In all google searches they come up pretty much on top. Just wondering if someone has used their services or is it a scam?
Thanks and have fun
Um, Google searches for what?
The guy doing that is a total nut. And anything available from him is available by reading the forum, in which case you don't have to pay for him. (just saw one guy who used him pay double at a massage place that most here know about) Also don't need to worry about him snapping your photo and displaying it on his website, a favorite trick of his. That's the one thing I've heard people angry about -- he doesn't ask, just does it. Guys and girls both. If you are after something specific, better to just ask here and members will point you toward it. For free. And with no risk. I've seen these self-made pros on the net and forums -- they end up in prison. This guy is flying on one wing at this point.
The other thing he's made people angry about are abusive PM's and also making up fake members to spam forums like this one -- then taking over with 20 or so different "members" talking to each other and pointing to him as their sage expert guru. Kind of sickening. Ruins the whole forum when he does that. And he does it until moderators finally put a stop to it and go delete all his accounts and posts.
Yeah I'd say he's somewhere in between a sociopath and psychopath, not qualified to say where on the spectrum exactly tho. Bad news either way. Avoid.
Original Mint
08-11-10, 02:19
The price normally 500-600 in total.That's the price I get for Tulip's as well - 100k for the house and tip (dont be a schmuck if the service is good) is around 500k. I've tipped less when the service has been less than stellar, but when it's good, this is the typical amount.
There's also a similar setup, literally across the street that just opened a little over 7 months ago? I went on a sunday evening when often times, the manager/mama's are off. It was very much a "when the cat's away, the mice will play" type deal. Not a good experience. They tried to jerk me around on the pricing but the topper was the girl i had picked, literally stopped after 9 minutes of foreplay and 3 minutes of BJ.
(translated from vietnamese)
her: "Oh, Im tired, I just got back from Nha Trang and my stomach hurts. Let me call another girl for you"
me: "Is it gonna cost me more for another girl?"
her: "Yes, you tip me and her"
me: "how do you say your name again? so I can speak with the manager when she gets back"
It didn't end well with her getting nothing, me getting nothing, and the house getting 100k. I haven't gone back since.
Toddtworip
08-11-10, 17:52
Maybe Minh Tam hotel on Le Quy Don Street. check a map.Thanks!. After some additional research / comparing information, I do believe this is the hotel that was suggested.
I will be sure to check it out and provide a report in a couple of months.
If someone else gets a change to visit this place prior, let us know how it turns out!
Toddtworip
08-11-10, 18:06
Hello Todd,
I think you are referring to one of my old posts.
Its been long 2 yrs since I was in HCMC but still remember the place fondly.
After 2 yrs I dont remember the places exactly. But I am sure the following will lead you to Minh Tan Hotel.
Take a taxi from anywhere in District 1. Tell him go to MGM. Its a disco place. Cross the road from MGM and walk 10 meters right and u will enter a street. Walk about 2 min. You will find Minh Tan on your left side of the street.
Hope they are still the same. Good luck.
IThanks buddy.
I will check it out early on my trip in a couple of months and provide an "analysis". Hopefully it will be a pleasant TR
Thanks buddy.
I will check it out early on my trip in a couple of months and provide an "analysis". Hopefully it will be a pleasant TR
FYI - MGM closed down about a year ago. That place is now a seafood restaurant called "Marina Ngoc Suong." If you're taking a taxi, just tell them to drop you off at the corner of Nguyen Dinh Chieu and Le Quy Don.
Alwayshard45
08-12-10, 07:57
So it's been a long time since I've been down to the DBP HT's. I moved and got a promotion with work, so now I am traveling a lot more and just don't have the time for that drive anymore. I went there during the afternoon, and drove up and down DBP to see what places were still there and what was new. I could only see Benny's which was surprising. There use to be like 3 or 4 all on one side of DBP. Maybe others don't open til later in the day? Not sure.
Anyways. My report on Benny's. It is new, and has a large facility. A MUCH improved upgrade from most of the old HTs on that street. I remember the layout of this building from before the upgrade and I have to say they did a great job of using the space they have. As stated before. Please just walk-in, pay the house fee and only leave 100k for the girl as tip. You can either give it to the girl or the front desk, either way the girl gets it. I didn't have any problems. Everything is air-conditioned, tons of girls there waiting to serve, clean and fresh looking (because its new...lets see how it is in a year or so). On average, the girls are pretty good. Of course there are a few that are less desirable, but you can always refuse and ask for someone else.
My girl cleaned me up, licked all over the body (all over), allowed me roam all over her body, including the arse. She had great tits, a pierced nose, nice ass and excellent skills. She also took her time, unlike the usual rush I use to experience. After everything was finished, she never asked for a tip nothing like that, but I had it all ready for her and sent 100k her way. She thanked me for the tip with a smile and there was nothing else to it.
I forgot about this road but glad to revisit.
Westernbacon
08-13-10, 18:57
Hey Johndao, are you still looking for a place where girls give you a bath?
It's been about 3 years since I've gone there but it might be worth it. It's a little(doubt more than 3 stars)Hotel connected to a restaurant type of joint over in I think is District 5?. It's right around the corner from the famous moto girls area at the Nquyen Chi Thanh & Nqyuen Chi Phuong intersection.
So if your traveling down NCT towards Cholon(away from District 1) you make a right at the roundabout onto NCP, look for the first Hotel on the right side of the street on NCP few meters down.
Go to the massage lobby upstairs. They have private massage rooms with full bathtub. The girls bath you and gives you a massage. I only went once and can't remember about any extra service. Quite clean and comfortable environment though.
There is a report about massage with a bath here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=760895&postcount=33
So it's been a long time since I've been down to the DBP HT's. I moved and got a promotion with work, so now I am traveling a lot more and just don't have the time for that drive anymore. I went there during the afternoon, and drove up and down DBP to see what places were still there and what was new. I could only see Benny's which was surprising. There use to be like 3 or 4 all on one side of DBP.
Whats the address of this Benny's?
I drove down DBP a couple weeks ago and it looked like the HT's I remember being there were still there. This stretch had a ton of them back in 2003-4, actually on both sides of DBP, but it went down to just 4 (that I'm aware of) since then.
You mentioned they made great use of the space. How so ?
You mentioned there were a ton of girls.. How many? Of what calibre?
thx
Phil Istine
08-14-10, 15:55
Fucking christ, its like banging your head against a brick wall with you blokes.
I have already posted all the details, but some may think that 200k is too expensive.
[Deleted by Admin] , I have found an el dorado.
[Deleted by Admin]
Girls are great, prices cheap but not cheap enough!
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Alwayshard45
08-14-10, 19:31
Hey Johndao, are you still looking for a place where girls give you a bath?
It's been about 3 years since I've gone there but it might be worth it. It's a little(doubt more than 3 stars)Hotel connected to a restaurant type of joint over in I think is District 5?. It's right around the corner from the famous moto girls area at the Nquyen Chi Thanh & Nqyuen Chi Phuong intersection.
So if your traveling down NCT towards Cholon(away from District 1) you make a right at the roundabout onto NCP, look for the first Hotel on the right side of the street on NCP few meters down.
Go to the massage lobby upstairs. They have private massage rooms with full bathtub. The girls bath you and gives you a massage. I only went once and can't remember about any extra service. Quite clean and comfortable environment though.Not sure if anyone is looking for that or not, but the Metropole Hotel has a massage center and they offer (for an additional fee) to upgrade to the VIP room which has a bathtub inside of it. I use to have business meetings at the hotel a few years ago and used to do the massage there every now and then cuz there were a few girls there who gave a real good legit massage. Anyways, in the VIP rooms, the girls do bathe you from head to toe. Its hit and miss though as far as services, mostly just HJ with an occasional BJ offered, however, I remember the prices being high. But it is a tourist spot near, PNL area.
I have not been there for a while, so I am not sure what their operations are like today, but it could be worth checking out if someone is interested. Its definitely not a cheap Blow-n-go type of place though.
Alwayshard45
08-14-10, 19:45
Fucking christ, its like banging your head against a brick wall with you blokes.
I have already posted all the details, but some may think that 200k is too expensive.
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Girls are great, prices cheap but not cheap enough!
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to redact sections of the report that were largely argumentative. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. Thank You!Yes, you did make a report, I was just confirming what you have previously stated. Some people like to know more that more than 1 person has had the same experience (I, myself, is included in that). If you look back, you will see I too have made contributions to these nice little bng's in the Binh Thanh area, but that was like maybe a year or more ago. I wanted to make an observation as to how things have changed, for those who haven't been in a while (like myself). I was pleasantly surprised!
Wendella - Not sure what part of DBP you are referring too, but when I went down there was only one that I could see a sign for. Maybe I'm becoming blind. Either way, its a big sign and you really can't miss it if you are on the right side of the street.
They use good usage of space, becuase they have a lot of room for customers, yet they make it feel like things are very spacious, instead of the old "cramped like sardines" feeling I use to have.
The girls are good. There are some real hotties, and there are a few not so good. But why my experience, those girls who are lacking the baggin beauty, have GREAT skills to make up for it. Either way, you are never let unsatisfied. There is a good amount of girls there. Id say any where from 15-25 girls. Its a big place and there are always some girls with someone, and others, waiting for their turn.
Dragonfly22
08-15-10, 12:27
I've been to the legit massage places on Le Anh Xuan and nearby. 1 hr massage is 80k and if the girl is good and doesn't rush, lets me explore alittle and I mean alittle cuz you can't do much in these places, then I may give her a tip equal to the ticket. The one on the right is getting very greedy, almost demanding a tip. The one on left, DuyenII I believe is much nicer and the girls appreciatively wait at the desk for a tip and do not demand anything. Good service deserves good tip, the amount is up to you.
Hi guys,
I'm spending a couple of days in VN on my way to Thailand. First day here, did some tourist shit then jumped in a taxi to Ben Ny. I had written the address down, the guy seemed to know it. Just across the bridge, about 3 or 4 hundred meters past the bridge on the right hand side heading away from the city. There is a sign on the street, you can't miss it.
So I walk in and there is a receptionist with the girls all milling around in the background, all pretty nice, a few cuties. I wouldn't have knocked any of them back. The receptionist didn't seem very friendly. I smiled said I wanted to get my hair washed and gave her a wink, but she just shook her head. Here we go, I thought, she's going to knock me back because I'm a foreigner. One of the girls, named Haa, came over and said 'no hair wash here, only massage and blowjob'. Ok then, even better! 100k to the house and Haa took me out the back to a row of dentists chairs. I lay down and she gave me a fault average massage for 10 min, with a little nipple rubbing, then she told me to get up and follow her into a little cubicle with a massage table. She pulled my tshirt up and shorts down, started with some nipple licking and then onto the BBBJ. She pulled he panties down and her dress up, I was playing with her pussy but with her panties still around her knees it was hard to get really good access. I guess all the gear is kept on but pulled down in case the cops come in and they need to tidy up in a hurry. Anyway, pretty good BJ, not quite deep enough for my liking, a bit too much hand and not enough throat. But she was really working it, like she was trying to get me off asap. She stopped after about 5 min and asked me if I was ok, like she was surprised I hadn't finished yet. Another 5 min or so later I blew a massive CIM, she took it all like a champ, but I could tell she was a bit shocked. I haven't blown that hard in a long time, I was very impressed. I know the board members her advise a 100k tip, but I gave her 200k, because it was a great BJ, and because of the (hopefully just mistakenly perceived) resistance to accept me because I was a foreigner (I'm also a pretty large bloke with a few tattoos and a rough looking head so maybe that had something to do with it).
Anyway, for about Australian $20, I was very happy, will prob come back when I get back from Nha Trang.
Firefox970
08-15-10, 18:09
Hello everybody,
On August 30, I will go to Nha Trang (Vietnam). Someone can said me the better place where I can receive an erotic massage and more.
Unfortunately, I never been to this place before. Thank you very much.
Westernbacon
08-15-10, 20:04
Went down to DBP tonight a little past 10pm and checked out all the HT shops that were still open. I tried looking for Benny's at the 110 address but gates were closed already. I stopped at 3 shops to take a look at all the girls, and I finally settled for the last shop on that strip. They had about 12 girls to choose from. I chose 2 girls.
One was really cute (23 years old) and the other was "bin thuong" (decent) but had nice breast (large b cups), but had kinda bad facial skin but hey it was closing time. Both had skills with great sound effects but kept bitching at me to stop pushing there heads deeper. Had the prettier one blow me and the less attractive one suck my balls. The prettier one kept pulling my hand out when I was fingering her. Only had 2 fingers up in there, but of course I kept finger fucking her anyway. However no deep throating or gags with these 2 girls. As I'm pushing one of the girl's head deeper in me the OTHER girl would push my hand away. As if they were tag teaming together. Anyways the service felt rushed but hard to say, I was the last customer and it was closing time.
I tipped each girl 100k, they complained and asked for 200K, I ignored them and walked down stairs and payed mamason 170k. Probably could of paid mamason less but I had no change on me. She said thank you and they closed the entrance gates on me and I'm off.
So total damage is 370k for 2 girls for suck and blow. Looking forward to Benny's. Never been there yet.
Hello everybody,
On August 30, I will go to Nha Trang (Vietnam). Someone can said me the better place where I can receive an erotic massage and more.
Unfortunately, I never been to this place before. Thank you very much.
You're asking in the worng thread. Look in the "Other Areas" section. There you'll find plenty of info about what you're wanting.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1043
Have a look on craig list under erotic section. there was a new posting a few days ago regarding escorts in Nha Trang. Anyone up that way tried them out?
Hello everybody,
On August 30, I will go to Nha Trang (Vietnam). Someone can said me the better place where I can receive an erotic massage and more.
Alwayshard45
08-16-10, 04:43
I know the board members her advise a 100k tip, but I gave her 200k, because it was a great BJ, and because of the (hopefully just mistakenly perceived) resistance to accept me because I was a foreigner (I'm also a pretty large bloke with a few tattoos and a rough looking head so maybe that had something to do with it).In the future, please refrain from giving that extra tip. The girls will soon start to believe that all the foreigners should be giving 200k instead of 100k, which will rates the rates again. Especially when it sounds like your girl was trying to rush things and complained about the length of time.
Westernbacon
08-16-10, 14:08
Hi guys,
I know the board members here advise a 100k tip, but I gave her 200k, because it was a great BJ, and because of the (hopefully just mistakenly perceived) resistance to accept me because I was a foreigner (I'm also a pretty large bloke with a few tattoos and a rough looking head so maybe that had something to do with it).
Anyway, for about Australian $20, I was very happy, will prob come back when I get back from Nha Trang.Fellas, stop ruining the local market for us all.
Ok you had a Great Fantastic Blowjob it's totally worth the $20 bucks because no way could you get that back home.. But you're not home, you're in Vietnam where a person with a decent office job supports their family with a 2.5 million monthly salary, that's like $130 usd a month working 6 days a week, 8 hour days. Were talking about $5 bucks a day= 100k dong. There are many of us who live and work here and don't need to spend money like a tourist always thinking they got a good deal cause it's cheaper than back home. Please spend wisely and keep your extra 100k.
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