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Djle7159
08-17-10, 07:10
So I went to a very popular hand job place on Su Van Hanh. Asked for number 19. I did my thing and went up stairs. Was told by a guy that she is eating and shell be right in. 20 minutes went by and I told the guy to send someone else in. He said she is done and I said forget it and to send some one else. He looks at me funny. I go back to my room.

So in comes 33, not pretty but not ugly. No assets worth mentioning. She gave a good hard massage and teasing so I liked her. I would repeat.

Gave her 150k but next time I'll give 100k. 80k to the house. They have a very good nice and hot suana. Others usually not hot enough for me even if I sit in there for a while for it to build up.

Mik Hcmc
08-17-10, 12:59
He tipped extra and gave the reasons why. To me these are valid reasons.
He got a better than expected BJ
He also experienced some difficulties in getting serviced due to him having tatt's (I've got a couple myself and get stared at constantly by all sorts of people) and a rough looking head (I think he means the big one)

Nothing wrong with giving a extra tip for better than expected service.
As for ruining the market how often will you visit the same shop, see the same girl? Chances are not very likely.

Here's a example.
I go to a normal legitimate MP sometimes more than once a week. I've been going there for over 1yr now.

I always get greeted with a smile, couple of handshakes from the attendants and hugs from the MP girls. I also have never tipped the attendants and still get warmly treated.
The staff know I prefer a particular girl.
Sometimes she's busy with a client but they still take me upstairs and let me sleep/wait in the booth.
I have always tipped her 100k. Normal tips are 50k. House is 50k.
Previous girls in the MP I've tipped 50k until I got the best massage in Saigon from this particular girl.
Have I ruined the market by giving a tip thats double what the going rate is for that establishment?
No I havn't. How many tourists, expats visit this MP? None that I've seen in my visits and from what I've gathered from the attendants and girls.

For that 1hr and sometimes 2hr (200k tip/100k ticket) sessions that often run over the time she works very hard as she knows I like a strong massage. None of this light tickling for me. I've stopped going to other MP's now as they don't fill the need I'm looking for.
Considering I'm 100kg's and the average punter to that MP is about 50kg, 55kg's dripping wet I don't mind tipping double as there's twice as much to massage, Providing the service is more than what I usually get. I've been to other MP's where I've tipped the going local rate, I even gave a ZERO tip to one girl due to her constant harassment for "massa baby how much?" and very poor massage skills.

We all have our reasons for tipping. Personally I tip extra if I get a better than expected result.



Fellas, stop ruining the local market for us all.

Ok you had a Great Fantastic Blowjob it's totally worth the $20 bucks because no way could you get that back home.. But you're not home, you're in Vietnam where a person with a decent office job supports their family with a 2.5 million monthly salary, that's like $130 usd a month working 6 days a week, 8 hour days. Were talking about $5 bucks a day= 100k dong. There are many of us who live and work here and don't need to spend money like a tourist always thinking they got a good deal cause it's cheaper than back home. Please spend wisely and keep your extra 100k.

Westernbacon
08-18-10, 17:47
Hi all!

Seems a lot of action is at the Superbowl & DBP areas as far as BJ & FS goes. I live in Tan Phu district near the Damsen Waterpark. I have gotten BJ from some MP in this area, however it's a hit miss type of deal(more miss than hits). And these places are full of negotiating $ while your dick is in their hand, something I just don't enjoy dealing with anymore nor have the time.

I enjoy the type of service like at FS brothels near the SuperBowl on Dong Nai St. and the DBP BJ HTs where you walk in choose a gal and the price is fixed. No time wasted, no waiting for the girl to get off work as some coffee shops I frequent. The drive down to these areas are way far for me.

Anyone know of FS or BJ shops near the surrounding Damsen Waterpark area? and or Cholon district?

Thanks for looking!

Mik Hcmc
08-19-10, 05:04
Seems a lot of action is at the Superbowl

This would be in the upstairs MP, not the ground floor next to the car entrance.

Westernbacon
08-19-10, 06:12
This would be in the upstairs MP, not the ground floor next to the car entrance.Mik,

What type of services are we talking about upstairs? FS?

Any FS or BJ near Damsen? The Superbowl distance is like going to downtown LA back in the states for me.

Curious, you are viet keu? from what part of the world?

Alwayshard45
08-19-10, 08:50
This would be in the upstairs MP, not the ground floor next to the car entrance.The MP is no longer there. They turned the MP waiting room into a theater for live performances along with about 50 seats. I was there for some type of Vietnamese show a few months ago.

Mik Hcmc
08-20-10, 07:47
The upstairs MP is on the right hand side as you go upstairs. (From the carpark entry under the big "dome"
The Theater is more of less directly in front of the staircase
To the left is a childrens playground across is the amusement arcade and further along the bowling lanes. The childrens playground is a new addition.

I live opposite the superbowl. I usually go there every couple days to visit the supermarket, bakery and resturants.
There is a new steakhouse type resturant opening soon. There is a old style train carriage getting made up inside. Santa Fe or something keeps kicking around in my head.

That upstairs MP is catering mainly to the Korean/Jap market.
Large steam room, sauna and multiple spa's and couple row of massage rooms. Very nicely renovated.
See my report on the MP earlier.


The MP is no longer there. They turned the MP waiting room into a theater for live performances along with about 50 seats. I was there for some type of Vietnamese show a few months ago.

Westernbacon. I'm from Australia. Aussie/Korean/Jap/Pom.
There is no FS in the above mentioned MP, Just the normal HJ and possible BJ if the girls are not scared.
For entertainment near Damsen, Mutant Chicken has had a few reports. Have a read back and see if any of them tickle your fancy.

Alwayshard45
08-21-10, 15:16
The upstairs MP is on the right hand side as you go upstairs. (From the carpark entry under the big "dome"
The Theater is more of less directly in front of the staircase
To the left is a childrens playground across is the amusement arcade and further along the bowling lanes. The childrens playground is a new addition.

I stand corrected. I thought that was all one and the same, as far as entrances goes. I will have to check it out next time I'm headed for the airport.

The last time I was there, I had a strange experience (~2 years ago). I was given a beautiful young girl for a massage, and I was quiet happy. She was really good looking and her massage was great! When I flipped over I asked if she offered BJ and she said no and I asked about HJ and she said no, but asked if that's what I wanted. I said yes, so she excused herself, and I thought she was getting some towels or something but when she returned she brought another older, definitely not as good looking lady, and said she will finish the massage.

Has anyone else had this experience before, anywhere?

Explorerman
08-23-10, 06:41
The last time I was there, I had a strange experience (~2 years ago). I was given a beautiful young girl for a massage, and I was quiet happy. She was really good looking and her massage was great! When I flipped over I asked if she offered BJ and she said no and I asked about HJ and she said no, but asked if that's what I wanted. I said yes, so she excused herself, and I thought she was getting some towels or something but when she returned she brought another older, definitely not as good looking lady, and said she will finish the massage.

Has anyone else had this experience before, anywhere?

I can't comment about that place, but the experience is known. Sometimes the girls don't want to do it - either at all, or for a particular person - but they know one of the others will, and give them the opportunity. I don't think however, that this one older woman does the finishing work for everyone there.... :)

Kodanana
08-27-10, 08:35
84 NPK just got raid as I passed this afternoon. I guess it's due to the National Day coming up, also heard of the same up in Hanoi.

Alwayshard45
08-31-10, 07:11
84 NPK just got raid as I passed this afternoon. I guess it's due to the National Day coming up, also heard of the same up in Hanoi.

I drove by there yesterday on my way to a meeting and noticed all the shops with a bunch of guys standing out front trying to call me in. I don't remember that from before? Is that new or old news?

MikeInBrazil
09-10-10, 16:00
Can you give me an address or around what area this place is found? I am staying in district 1 on HBT area.


Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. New, nicer location, good looking girls and great service. No need to speak the language, walk in, they take you to one of two siting areas. Girl comes over, cleans your face and gives you a half assed massage. Takes you to a room, wipes you down, she goes to work, bbbj cim, cleans you up, go back to the sitting area. No hassle, no haggling, no tipping, no talk of money, no need to waste time at any other place, leave 200k with the receptionist on your way out and thank me later.

Hardlock1
09-11-10, 13:44
Well guys, I am back in Vietnam again. This time around, I brought a friend with me, a guy who was a USA Marine here back during the war and hasnt been in Vietnam for 42 years. To be totally honest, now, I know what I must have looked like 9 years ago when I came back here for the first time since the war. LOL I got off just watching him experiencing sounds, sights, smells, and remembering.

Anyway, I decided enough of that shit, and told him he was in for a treat, as we were in a taxi heading to NPK. He asked me what that treat was, and I told him to just shut up, keep his senses on high-alert and just do what I said to do. This guy is no dummy, as evidenced by the fact that he walked in, grabbed the cutest gal in the place in about one second, and took his ass off upstairs like he was shot out of a Cannon.

I dunno what the hell he did to his gal, but he had her moaning, groaning and seemingly getting off more than once. Matter of fact, me and my gal could hardly keep a straight face, and were forced to stop our action several times to snicker and just outright belly laugh at the shenanigans of those two! That was fun! Ha ha

After it was all over, as we walked out of the door heading for a taxi and something to drink, that son-of-a-***** was kissing on me and telling me what a great "fucking friend" I am. LOL I told him to thank JohnDao, Milkweed, Sudsoz, and all the friends in this forum. Well, when he started pressing me about "what forum? " I started to laugh like hell, and the taxi driver was looking at me like I was Dien Cai Dau. LOL I muttered under my breath something about Jackson is going to love me, and when he asked me "who is Jackson? " I lost it again!

Guys, all I can say is, now I know what we all must look like when in heat, and mongering to beat hell! God, I love it so!

H is out

P.S. Number 84 is open there, also. I dunno about a raid, but it was open yesterday, because as we got out of the taxi in front of #84, two Viet guys came out and one asked me "#84? #82? " I told him "tam muoi hia" and headed inside.

Raverboy
09-13-10, 09:35
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On SVH there are 2 next to each other on the right (coming from 3/2). I used to go to the one called Tina last year and nothing extra was available at that time but the girls were cute and friendly. I haven't visited the other one.

Further up on the left is An Chi 1 and down the alley opposite that has the beef steak place, is An Chi 2. Same owner and girls move between the two. There are some real beauties at these places and all the rooms are private. Hairwash, massage and BJ is 200vnd tip and 150 to the shop. Level of service varies. had one girl who refused to do anything and the next week I had a different one who fucked for 600vnd. Take your own condoms. According to a Viet language forum that I know this variation seems standard so don't think its just because you're a foreigner...

...For those that prefer the hotel style massage I can recommend Hoang Chau hotel on To Hien Thanh St (turn right from SVH). BJ is standard and the girls are pretty cute and quite a few have big boobs. 200 tip plus 100 to the house.

Thanks to this excellent summary of SVH massage places by HCMge, tried An Chi 2 and Hoang Chau Hotel over the span of the last few months.

AC2 is not bad, had me a Mekong Delta cutie who washed my hair, gave me a facial, then brought me to slow eruption with her mouth and hands, for VND 200.000 tip and VND 150.000 to the house as reported. Room is basic but has a TV and connecting bathroom, like a typical VNmese no tell hotel room. Ground floor made up to look like a hair salon. You can pick the girl, arrangements can be easily made for outside of the girl's working hours (9 am - 9 pm).

Hoang Chau Hotel massage is set up like many of the typical VNmese no tell hotels with massage centres. Sauna/Hot Pool/TV Lounge, but facilities here are drab and a little 'seasoned'. Massage itself is forgettable but BJ is standard. You can't pick the girl unless you know her by name or number. VND 200.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 to the house.

Johndao
09-15-10, 06:49
Thanks to this excellent summary of SVH massage places by HCMge, tried An Chi 2 and Hoang Chau Hotel over the span of the last few months.

AC2 is not bad, had me a Mekong Delta cutie who washed my hair, gave me a facial, then brought me to slow eruption with her mouth and hands, for VND 200.000 tip and VND 150.000 to the house as reported. Room is basic but has a TV and connecting bathroom, like a typical VNmese no tell hotel room. Ground floor made up to look like a hair salon. You can pick the girl, arrangements can be easily made for outside of the girl's working hours (9 am - 9 pm).

Hoang Chau Hotel massage is set up like many of the typical VNmese no tell hotels with massage centres. Sauna/Hot Pool/TV Lounge, but facilities here are drab and a little 'seasoned'. Massage itself is forgettable but BJ is standard. You can't pick the girl unless you know her by name or number. VND 200.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 to the house.
Good report Raverboy. Price is high, I am curious, anyone get this service for a more normal price of say, 100k to the house and 100k to the girl? Raver, anything better at these places than at DBP, NPK places where it's 200k complete? If so, then I'll check it out.

If the room is like a hotel as you said, is FS available? PM me if you like.
Thanks,
JD

Raverboy
09-15-10, 09:11
Good report Raverboy. Price is high, I am curious, anyone get this service for a more normal price of say, 100k to the house and 100k to the girl? Raver, anything better at these places than at DBP, NPK places where it's 200k complete? If so, then I'll check it out.

If the room is like a hotel as you said, is FS available? PM me if you like.
Thanks,
JD

Can't compare with DBP. Here you are in a typical single massage table room with a door with a half-pane of (mostly) frosted glass + use of the sauna and a shower.

At DBP you're in a curtained-off space with 3 or 4 recliners next to each other right? No showers, no nothing. So if you're fine with literally just a blow and go, DBL and DBP are probably the cheapest, for VND 200.000 total. Unless of course you hit a ca phe om, but it will be even less comfortable. ;)

Mole Chaser
09-19-10, 11:20
Thanks to this excellent summary of SVH massage places by HCMge, tried An Chi 2 and Hoang Chau Hotel over the span of the last few months.

AC2 is not bad, had me a Mekong Delta cutie who washed my hair, gave me a facial, then brought me to slow eruption with her mouth and hands, for VND 200.000 tip and VND 150.000 to the house as reported. Room is basic but has a TV and connecting bathroom, like a typical VNmese no tell hotel room. Ground floor made up to look like a hair salon. You can pick the girl, arrangements can be easily made for outside of the girl's working hours (9 am - 9 pm).

Hoang Chau Hotel massage is set up like many of the typical VNmese no tell hotels with massage centres. Sauna/Hot Pool/TV Lounge, but facilities here are drab and a little 'seasoned'. Massage itself is forgettable but BJ is standard. You can't pick the girl unless you know her by name or number. VND 200.000 to the girl, VND 100.000 to the house.First of all thanks for the reports on HCMC. It gave a good overview on where to go and not wasting too much time. Although it was difficult to figure out your abbreviations of streets. Better keep the long name, it`s only two words more.

However, I have been to two places in HCMC on my short trip here and must say to be very disappointed:

Anh Chi 2 on Su Van Hanh Street was a standard boring BJ (no CIM) for incredible 500k plus 150k to the house. I tried it with the advertised 200k, but there wasn`t a chance of even reducing it to 400k. The option would have been to leave.
Unfortunately I wanted it quite badly, so this was not an option..
Damage in total 650k VND

Then I tried to place at the Superbowl Center, 1st floor next from the cinema. Here they didn´t even gave a BJ, only HJ. Requested Tip was 400K VND, no chance of negotiation either.

So, maybe I only had bad luck or my bargaining skills are negligible, but it definitely was my last try in Vietnam.

Good luck to all others, but IMHO Vietnam is quite a rip-off in this regard, so I will stick my stick to good old Thailand.

Mik Hcmc
09-19-10, 20:49
Although it was difficult to figure out your abbreviations of streets. Better keep the long name, it`s only two words more.
There is a abbreviation link at the top. Click it and scroll to Vietnam. You will see all the street names abbreviated with their full names. So many people keep asking about the street names but never bother to click it when its so obvious (well it was to me anyway)


However, I have been to two places in HCMC on my short trip here and must say to be very disappointed:

You formed this opinion after visiting only 2?
Not all MP's offer BJ, HJ, FS. Some are legitimate ones, others offer HJ's, some offer HJ,BJ. There are even some MP's that offer FS.
If you wanted a BJ ending there are plenty of other reports of MP's. Son Tra Hotel for example. Look back a few more pages and you will see.
If you just want a BJ then go to a BnG (Blow n Go) There are plenty of reports on them. 100k ticket and 100k tip. You also get some sort of massage too.



Good luck to all others, but IMHO Vietnam is quite a rip-off in this regard, so I will stick my stick to good old Thailand.
That's the problem, People keep comparing VN to TLD.
I did the same when I first arrived. Once you work out that not everything is what it seems you will have some fun behind closed doors.
If the girl isn't lowering her price then simply refuse to have whatever it is you wanted instead of giving in and then complaining about it.

The superbowl upstairs MP is catering to Korean, Jap expats. Lots of them live in Tan Binh. Its actually a very nicely renovated MP, compared to some catering for local vn men.

Paying 600k VND / 950baht for 1hr FS with a SYT (sweet young thing) including a room with AC, shower, toilet, towels, rubber etc provided is overpriced then I'd like to see where you can get the same deal in TLD. Unless you like Patts 500b beach rd specials..

Give a couple more MP's a try, then make your mind up. Just remember this is VN, things are done very differently compared to anywhere else.

Milkweed
09-20-10, 04:54
Anh Chi 2 on Su Van Hanh Street was a standard boring BJ (no CIM) for incredible 500k plus 150k to the house. I tried it with the advertised 200k, but there wasn`t a chance of even reducing it to 400k. The option would have been to leave.
Unfortunately I wanted it quite badly, so this was not an option..
Damage in total 650k VND


I had a similar experience there. The ticket was 150k and the girl wanted a lot of money for little service. I don't recommend it.

Ho Chi Minge
09-20-10, 05:09
Damage in total 650k VND

Requested Tip was 400K VND, no chance of negotiation either.

So, maybe I only had bad luck or my bargaining skills are negligible, but it definitely was my last try in Vietnam.

Good luck to all others, but IMHO Vietnam is quite a rip-off in this regard, so I will stick my stick to good old Thailand.Never ask 'how much?'. Don't negotiate. Pay the recommended price. Unfortunately if you don't speak VN they will immediately mark you out as a newbie and try to rip you off. Just say no to inflated prices, don't back down and you will be surprised how quickly the girl caves in.

Milkweed
09-20-10, 06:40
Never ask 'how much?'. Don't negotiate. Pay the recommended price. Unfortunately if you don't speak VN they will immediately mark you out as a newbie and try to rip you off. Just say no to inflated prices, don't back down and you will be surprised how quickly the girl caves in.

Maybe you enjoy the game or just don't mind the hassle, but if someone tries to rip me off it doesn't really put me in the mood. It makes me feel annoyed. And even if I do everything you say to combat the rip-off....I won't go back.

Mole Chaser
09-20-10, 11:42
There is a abbreviation link at the top. Click it and scroll to Vietnam. You will see all the street names abbreviated with their full names. So many people keep asking about the street names but never bother to click it when its so obvious (well it was to me anyway)

You formed this opinion after visiting only 2?

Not all MP's offer BJ, HJ, FS. Some are legitimate ones, others offer HJ's, some offer HJ, BJ. There are even some MP's that offer FS.

If you wanted a BJ ending there are plenty of other reports of MP's. Son Tra Hotel for example. Look back a few more pages and you will C.

If you just want a BJ then go to a BnG (Blow and Go) There are plenty of reports on them. 100k ticket and 100k tip. You also get some sort of massage too.

That's the problem, People keep comparing VN to TLD.

I did the same when I first arrived. Once you work out that not everything is what it seems you will have some fun behind closed doors.

If the girl isn't lowering her price then simply refuse to have whatever it is you wanted instead of giving in and then complaining about it.

The superbowl upstairs MP is catering to Korean, Jap expats. Lots of them live in Tan Binh. Its actually a very nicely renovated MP, compared to some catering for local vn men.

Paying 600k VND / 950baht for 1hr FS with a SYT (sweet young thing) including a room with AC, shower, toilet, towels, rubber etc provided is overpriced then I'd like to see where you can get the same deal in TLD. Unless you like Patts 500b beach Road specials.

Give a couple more MP's a try, then make your mind up. Just remember this is VN, things are done very differently compared to anywhere else.Thanks, Mik Hcmc and all the others who replied.

You are right, maybe I should try it a few times more, but I had quite the same experience in Hanoi, so maybe it's just not my thing here.

It wasn't FS for 600k VND. That would have been okay of course.

I might try it again next time here in VN.

I appreciate the comment for the abbreviations list, it really should have been obvious to me

Johndao
09-21-10, 01:45
Thanks, Mik Hcmc and all the others who replied.

You are right, maybe I should try it a few times more, but I had quite the same experience in Hanoi, so maybe it's just not my thing here.

It wasn't FS for 600k VND. That would have been okay of course.

I might try it again next time here in VN.

I appreciate the comment for the abbreviations list, it really should have been obvious to meI agree that it is very difficult to get what you want easily in VN and for a decent price. It is a hell for a horny, newcomer, short-time mongerer. But that is by design. The powers that be do not want an open sex scene for tourists and they have the power to restrict it and they do. They recognize of course that there must be outlets for those who live and work here, but they don't want an open scene as found in Thai or PI. It's impossible not to agree that mongering is better in those two places for short-time visitors and tourists. But VN has it's benefits for those who can take more time to learn the scene and the language.
JD

Johndao
09-23-10, 02:04
Typical scenes of girls at a Saigon brothel waiting for customers. Right. We wish.
Apologies to O.H.

JD

AdHome01
09-23-10, 14:59
Typical scenes of girls at a Saigon brothel waiting for customers. Right. We wish.
Apologies to O.H.

JD

Looks like a typical day at my house :)

Alwayshard45
09-26-10, 07:37
BnGs on NPK:

I am pretty disappointed with two visits to the same place, and for sure, I will never go to that one again. I was trying to go to the 84 shop, but I went just past it (a few feet) to the store right next to it. I don't know the number. The first time I was greeted by a large chested woman who was a bit older, but I thought it was ok. When I got upstairs she said I could touch her chest for whatever reason. Upon closer look at her face, she was A LOT older than I first thought. Her service was horrible. I thought Id give this place a second try since I did see some good looking girls there as I was leaving the first time. So I went again and was greeted by a real good looking girl, I went upstairs, got onto the table and she left to go get towels or whatever. The girl who came in after was the fattest, ugliest woman I have ever seen! I couldn't believe it. I was like WTF, where is the other girl? She said she just takes me to the room, but she would take care of me. I refused and was getting my shirt back on when she said I still had to tip her 100k! I said no, but when I left, everyone made a big fuss about it and said I still owed 100k tip to the girl.

I WILL NEVER GO TO THAT PLACE AGAIN! It was NOT #84, but right next to it. If you on the street looking at the shops, it would be on the left. I couldnt believe the treatment there. Ive never had that happen at one of these places before.

Mik Hcmc
09-26-10, 13:18
BnGs on NPK:

The first time I was greeted by a large chested woman who was a bit older, but I thought it was ok. When I got upstairs she said I could touch her chest for whatever reason. Upon closer look at her face, she was A LOT older than I first thought.......


The girl who came in after was the fattest, ugliest woman I have ever seen! I couldn't believe it. I was like WTF, where is the other girl?

Hey even old chick's need loving haha. Bad luck mate.

Alwayshard45
09-26-10, 15:31
I don't mind an older lady as long as the service makes up for the lack of youth...which is usually the case. But not there. Ive been to several places of this type and I am just amazed at the consistency of bad service.


Hey even old chick's need loving haha. Bad luck mate.

Mik Hcmc
09-27-10, 03:02
I don't mind an older lady as long as the service makes up for the lack of youth...which is usually the case. But not there. Ive been to several places of this type and I am just amazed at the consistency of bad service.

Sadly in VN you almost expect bad service...

Johndao
09-29-10, 02:23
BnGs on NPK:

I am pretty disappointed with two visits to the same place, and for sure, I will never go to that one again. I was trying to go to the 84 shop, but I went just past it (a few feet) to the store right next to it. I don't know the number. The first time I was greeted by a large chested woman who was a bit older, but I thought it was ok. When I got upstairs she said I could touch her chest for whatever reason. Upon closer look at her face, she was A LOT older than I first thought. Her service was horrible. I thought Id give this place a second try since I did see some good looking girls there as I was leaving the first time. So I went again and was greeted by a real good looking girl, I went upstairs, got onto the table and she left to go get towels or whatever. The girl who came in after was the fattest, ugliest woman I have ever seen! I couldn't believe it. I was like WTF, where is the other girl? She said she just takes me to the room, but she would take care of me. I refused and was getting my shirt back on when she said I still had to tip her 100k! I said no, but when I left, everyone made a big fuss about it and said I still owed 100k tip to the girl.

I WILL NEVER GO TO THAT PLACE AGAIN! It was NOT #84, but right next to it. If you on the street looking at the shops, it would be on the left. I couldnt believe the treatment there. Ive never had that happen at one of these places before.For whatever reason, they decided they no longer wanted your business and wanted you to never return. But, being good business people, rather than just send you away, they would cheat you first. That would ensure that A) you would never return and B) They would get some money from you for nothing. There is a saying for this in Vietnamese, I will translate it into English "Good in Business".

Why they don't want you there, I don't know. But there are possibilities having to do with appearance and attitude. PM me for more info. Age and size alone will not factor strongly against you but combined with other characteristics involving grooming, odor, dress, etc. it may. I am not saying any of these are deficient in you, but they are among the reasons these places will not want a paying customer. A very difficult complaining attitude may also [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off so that they don't want you back. Someone like PP a while back, he would walk into the places, perve on the girls a while, say none are tall enough and then leave. So they banned him. I've been banned from a couple of places for coming early and then not choosing a girl and leaving. They believe the first customer is lucky and if the first one of the day does not go well, they are cursed the rest of the day. Kind of helps to explain why this country is one of the poorest, most backward, least developed places in the world outside Africa.

About appearance, remember this is not Thailand where the girls who go with foreigners will accept anyone and even proudly walk down the street arm in arm with him regardless of appearance. These Blow 'n Go places are serving mostly Vietnamese customers. Those Viet guys will not want to be serviced by girls who are serving foreign men that they consider to be too. . well, you get my point. Again, I'm not saying this applies to you, just some possibilities from what I have seen over the years.
JD

Alwayshard45
09-29-10, 10:00
For whatever reason, they decided they no longer wanted your business and wanted you to never return. But, being good business people, rather than just send you away, they would cheat you first. That would ensure that A) you would never return and B) They would get some money from you for nothing. There is a saying for this in Vietnamese, I will translate it into English "Good in Business".

Why they don't want you there, I don't know. But there are possibilities having to do with appearance and attitude. PM me for more info. Age and size alone will not factor strongly against you but combined with other characteristics involving grooming, odor, dress, etc. it may. I am not saying any of these are deficient in you, but they are among the reasons these places will not want a paying customer. A very difficult complaining attitude may also [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off so that they don't want you back. Someone like PP a while back, he would walk into the places, perve on the girls a while, say none are tall enough and then leave. So they banned him. I've been banned from a couple of places for coming early and then not choosing a girl and leaving. They believe the first customer is lucky and if the first one of the day does not go well, they are cursed the rest of the day. Kind of helps to explain why this country is one of the poorest, most backward, least developed places in the world outside Africa.

About appearance, remember this is not Thailand where the girls who go with foreigners will accept anyone and even proudly walk down the street arm in arm with him regardless of appearance. These Blow 'n Go places are serving mostly Vietnamese customers. Those Viet guys will not want to be serviced by girls who are serving foreign men that they consider to be too. . well, you get my point. Again, I'm not saying this applies to you, just some possibilities from what I have seen over the years.

JDYes I can understand those tactics for a business who wants to push a customer away without verbally refusing them. However, I'm a well groomed guy, average height and weight, proportionate. I've never been to this one particular place, so they have no experience of me being rude, complaining or anything like that. I dont "perve" the girl's as you would say. I think I am just a normal customer, walk in, meet the girl they have, Im usually ok with my options then walk to the designated area. I drive my own vehicles to these places, a nice bike, never on a xe om or in a taxi. I also always wear deodorant and sometimes just a little bit of cologne, but very small amount (I have a sensitive nose to that kind of stuff).

It's mind boggling was to what happened. I ALSO speak the language fluently. The shop next door and all the other BnGs, massage parlors, karaoke oms etc., I have never had any problems.

I know how Vietnam works, I know the girls here are more selective than in other countries, but this would be my first expereinece of not "making the cut". Lastly, Im not old or too young, in my early 30s.

Not sure, but doesn't really matter at this point, there are plenty of other places to go, I just was hoping to add another shop of places I can say "I like". Their loss, not mine.

Johndao
09-30-10, 03:59
Yes I can understand those tactics for a business who wants to push a customer away without verbally refusing them. However, I'm a well groomed guy, average height and weight, proportionate. I've never been to this one particular place, so they have no experience of me being rude, complaining or anything like that. I dont "perve" the girl's as you would say. I think I am just a normal customer, walk in, meet the girl they have, Im usually ok with my options then walk to the designated area. I drive my own vehicles to these places, a nice bike, never on a xe om or in a taxi. I also always wear deodorant and sometimes just a little bit of cologne, but very small amount (I have a sensitive nose to that kind of stuff).

It's mind boggling was to what happened. I ALSO speak the language fluently. The shop next door and all the other BnGs, massage parlors, karaoke oms etc., I have never had any problems.

I know how Vietnam works, I know the girls here are more selective than in other countries, but this would be my first expereinece of not "making the cut". Lastly, Im not old or too young, in my early 30s.

Not sure, but doesn't really matter at this point, there are plenty of other places to go, I just was hoping to add another shop of places I can say "I like". Their loss, not mine.Well, You sound like a fine customer and one they should be happy to have. I have no idea why they don't want you. I am out of ideas. As you wrote, take your business elsewhere.

JD

Njguy862
09-30-10, 17:16
Only have few day left here in Vietnam living in dam sen area looking for hot toc the give BBBJ or massage FS around area please help younger brother out first time here on vacation any information would help alot.

Thank you

Njguy862
09-30-10, 21:40
How would you approch a female at the hot toc place would you just try to feel them or would you ask for the service been to a few all misses in district 11 same with mp if you no a place please give name and cross street please even if you could recomend a girl from the place how much was pay and tipped.

Thanks

Johndao
10-01-10, 08:56
How would you approch a female at the hot toc place would you just try to feel them or would you ask for the service been to a few all misses in district 11 same with mp if you no a place please give name and cross street please even if you could recomend a girl from the place how much was pay and tipped.

ThanksPlease read the Forum. I realize you are so anxious for info, you asked and then waited four and a half hours and then asked again, but all the information you need is already here, you simply have to read it.
JD

Djle7159
10-01-10, 11:51
Im being kind here. No one is going to walk you any further.


Hi all!

Seems a lot of action is at the Superbowl & DBP areas as far as BJ & FS goes. I live in Tan Phu district near the Damsen Waterpark. I have gotten BJ from some MP in this area, however it's a hit miss type of deal(more miss than hits). And these places are full of negotiating $ while your dick is in their hand, something I just don't enjoy dealing with anymore nor have the time.

I enjoy the type of service like at FS brothels near the SuperBowl on Dong Nai St. and the DBP BJ HTs where you walk in choose a gal and the price is fixed. No time wasted, no waiting for the girl to get off work as some coffee shops I frequent. The drive down to these areas are way far for me.

Anyone know of FS or BJ shops near the surrounding Damsen Waterpark area? and or Cholon district?

Thanks for looking!

Njguy862
10-01-10, 13:47
Please read the Forum. I realize you are so anxious for info, you asked and then waited four and a half hours and then asked again, but all the information you need is already here, you simply have to read it.

JDI have search but have not found anything near q11 and just would like to know if there is any street near me that has hot toc or a lot of massage area.

Mik Hcmc
10-03-10, 03:23
I have search but have not found anything near q11 and just would like to know if there is any street near me that has hot toc or a lot of massage area.

Are you allowed to leave D11?
Do you need permission to go to another district?
You sound like a little kid who's been spoon fed and had your bum wiped all his life.

Read back on the relevant forum threads.
Write down the address.
Get on your tricycle or if your big enough your bike with training wheels. Don't forget your brain bucket.
Ride to the address of the selected B&G from the reports.
Get whatever it is you wanted.
Tip accordingly and pay the ticket.

There is nothing stopping you from exploring around your neighbourhood. How do you think people find out about new shops?
Don't worry if you can't speak vn-ese. I know mostly swear words and I can still find what I'm looking for.

After that perhaps give something back to the forum in the way of a report.
Posters who give to the forum are looked upon more favourably than those who keep asking.

Johndao
10-04-10, 07:16
I have search but have not found anything near q11 and just would like to know if there is any street near me that has hot toc or a lot of massage area.The answer is that nothing is available in D11 that we know of. Ask your wife if you can move closer to the center or to Tan Binh.

Alwayshard45
10-04-10, 12:13
The answer is that nothing is available in D11 that we know of. Ask your wife if you can move closer to the center or to Tan Binh.

Why Tan Binh? haha. Move to Binh Thanh.

Alwayshard45
10-04-10, 12:55
unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended), walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.

then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf...?" but didnt say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.

after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.

Johndao
10-05-10, 02:07
Unusual but delightful experience today. I was in the upper D1 area today and decided to swing by one of the BnGs on NPK. Quite different from the previous awful experiences you recently wrote about having on the same street. Different shop I assume?
JD

Alwayshard45
10-05-10, 06:23
Quite different from the previous awful experiences you recently wrote about having on the same street. Different shop I assume?
JD

Yes, it is a different shop. Actually, is the shop RIGHT next door to the place I went to before and was shunned from. haha. It's like night and day between these two places for me.

Wendella
10-06-10, 06:54
but this would be my first expereinece of not "making the cut". Lastly, Im not old or too young, in my early 30s.


A few times in different places, I've been mistaken for another customer. Sometimes this worked out badly for me, other times very well ;) (a real hottie who'd just about rejected me on 2 previous visits suddenly was derriere to lap grinding, placing my hands everywhere, etc. ; on other ocassions I've gotten the cold shoulder from girls who claimed to know me, who I'd never seen before, and when I said so they laughed at me as if I was being slick, trying to stick to pretending to be someone else-- obviously my alter ego had done something to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off -- such is fortune) (another thought: maybe you have split personality, and your other self went there before ;) )

Doodie1
10-12-10, 11:11
Now I do have a question for forum followers after having read the forum. Is there a place to go to find English-speaking busty beauties? Man , this would be a great business opportunity for some smart sexentrepreneur. The company is paying for a weekend for two in Long Hai and I don't have a date yet. Have four more days to find one. Maybe I should buy one of those electronic language translators? Anyone know how much they cost and where to find one? Thanks.Try the backpacker area for some English speaking girls, the park (can't recall the name) on PNL is a good place to start. My last friend that made a visit met girls all day and night there begging him to help them with their English and a few offering to go out of town with him.

I've had a few buddies take bia om girls that speak decent English out of town for as little as $50 per day. Might not be an option for you, but I would think it would be the safest.

Westernbacon
10-12-10, 11:43
JD is right. Read the forum. Do your homework. I do. That's how I learned about Benny's Hot Toc in Ben Thanh District. There is a busty beauty there named Tan who took care me of this afternoon. Oh so nice. Got my goatee trimmed, too ;). She would not allow me to take a photo but I will definitely see her again.

Now I do have a question for forum followers after having read the forum. Is there a place to go to find English-speaking busty beauties? Man , this would be a great business opportunity for some smart sexentrepreneur. The company is paying for a weekend for two in Long Hai and I don't have a date yet. Have four more days to find one. Maybe I should buy one of those electronic language translators? Anyone know how much they cost and where to find one? Thanks.The book stores around town has the pocket translators.. try the ones near Dist.1.

There is a busty beauty at Benny's that gives really good service. Salad toss was included.

Alwayshard45
10-12-10, 17:58
I wanted to explore some more spots this week so I headed out to District 7. I was gonna try and find a good ca phe om, however, the rain today came down so hard that it became unbearable to drive anymore. The streets were flooded up to my ankles on my automatic motorbike, which was having a hard time trudging along.

If you go to Lotte Mart, and turn left and drive along the building (on the South side of the building) you will come to Le Van Luong Street (first street past Lotte Mart). I made a left. I believe the number is 157 (but dont quote me on that).

It says its a massage and hot toc place by the sign out side next to the road. There were a couple of girls inside. One of them looked real young, like 19/20 years old and the other in her mid 20s. The older one had some big tits.

The girl offered a shit massage with minimal effort. She then went into a BBBJ but I could only get a few squirts in until she puller her face away from my unloading all of my contents into her mouth. Afterwards, she cleaned me up and I was on my way. Decent service, I will repeat when in the area. Its a good alternative for those in that area and dont want to drive all the way to District BT.

As far as the pricing goes, all-in-all it came out to 180k, including the tip. She was also very happy with what she got.

PolyOrchid
10-15-10, 03:39
Best hot toc around, Benny - 110 DBP Q. BT. Guys,

Really appreciate all your info but PLEASE, if you would, give as explicit directions and details as you can. For instance, I went to 110 Dien Bien Phu, in District 1, to find this place, and it's a restaurant.

Now, does the "Q. BT." mean something else, indicating it's not in District 1? Please clarify if you would.

I know these abbreviations are easily understood by people familiar with Saigon but for newbies to town, more clarification would be appreciated.

And, yes, I have looked at the abbreviations chart, but see nothing that would clarify this.

Mik Hcmc
10-15-10, 10:35
Guys,

Really appreciate all your info but PLEASE, if you would, give as explicit directions and details as you can. For instance, I went to 110 Dien Bien Phu, in District 1, to find this place, and it's a restaurant.

Now, does the "Q. BT." mean something else, indicating it's not in District 1? Please clarify if you would.

I know these abbreviations are easily understood by people familiar with Saigon but for newbies to town, more clarification would be appreciated.

And, yes, I have looked at the abbreviations chart, but see nothing that would clarify this.

If you like to be a detective and search then I can give you some hints.
There is bugger all for locals in D1. D1 is for tourists and those who are entertaining guests.
So that would rule that out.

Q BT.
What does the Q stand for in Vietnam?
If you look at the address's you will see there are plenty of Q's, some even have the full spelling of the word.
Also it was mentioned in previous posts in the forum so taking a quick look back there will show.
BT. What do these 2 letters stand for?
Same as PN,TB,PMH.
If you can work these out you will work out what BT stands for.

Failing that simply go to www.diadiem.com
type in the addy and you will get a dropdown list. Select the one that match's with BT and you are on your way.


If you still cant work it out with these hints feel free to PM me (PM stands for Personal Message, not some suburb of Saigon)
BTW don't take it the wrong way, I'd love to simply blurt out the answer but I'm a firm believer in enabling people. By enabling you to find out for yourself you will gain a greater sense of achievement and acomplishment.

BionicMan
10-15-10, 12:14
If you like to be a detective and search then I can give you some hints.
There is bugger all for locals in D1. D1 is for tourists and those who are entertaining guests.
So that would rule that out.

Q BT.
What does the Q stand for in Vietnam?
If you look at the address's you will see there are plenty of Q's, some even have the full spelling of the word.
Also it was mentioned in previous posts in the forum so taking a quick look back there will show.
BT. What do these 2 letters stand for?
Same as PN,TB,PMH.
If you can work these out you will work out what BT stands for.

Failing that simply go to www.diadiem.com
type in the addy and you will get a dropdown list. Select the one that match's with BT and you are on your way.


If you still cant work it out with these hints feel free to PM me (PM stands for Personal Message, not some suburb of Saigon)
BTW don't take it the wrong way, I'd love to simply blurt out the answer but I'm a firm believer in enabling people. By enabling you to find out for yourself you will gain a greater sense of achievement and acomplishment.and for those not having CIA detectiv skills?
I mean...I too always found some forums in ISG very (unreasonably?) cryptic.
HMCH one seems to be one of them when it comes to addresses or areas.
HCMC has already its own unlogic District numbering, if we add cryptic abbreviations there is poor information given out.
Dont need a picture of the house, but if i look at BT on the given site (thanks for it!) I will find at least 3 options under BT....
I am firm believer of RTFF but if I need to search for every location abbreviation, honestly, I give up.
I go to HCMC once a year for a couple of days: time is tight already (my problem), oppurtunities even tighter ( my problem too), but if I need to spend long time to find or understand what a location is (I am ok to spend time to RTFF!), then I give up! (my problem too, lol)

Mik Hcmc
10-15-10, 13:16
Before I found ISG I had worked out what shops were what. ie massage, B&G and cafes. I had gone past the FSMP's but were thrown off by the looks of these, I never needed a haircut so never ventured inside however by riding around and looking at the signs, and the girls sitting/standing around in their uniforms. I never knew what street name, just what landmarks to turn at and approx how far via my bikes odometer I had to go down.

Then I found ISG. I too was stumped with the abbreviations.
I ended up writting these down on a piece of paper and looking the streets up.
Soon you will see the commonly mentioned ones and then you will be familiar with them.

Just remember, what is reported here is just a drop in the ocean of whats avl out there. Go for a ride around, go and explore, see what you can see.

Alwayshard45
10-15-10, 18:24
Before I found ISG I had worked out what shops were what. ie massage, B&G and cafes. I had gone past the FSMP's but were thrown off by the looks of these, I never needed a haircut so never ventured inside however by riding around and looking at the signs, and the girls sitting/standing around in their uniforms. I never knew what street name, just what landmarks to turn at and approx how far via my bikes odometer I had to go down.

Then I found ISG. I too was stumped with the abbreviations.
I ended up writting these down on a piece of paper and looking the streets up.
Soon you will see the commonly mentioned ones and then you will be familiar with them.

Just remember, what is reported here is just a drop in the ocean of whats avl out there. Go for a ride around, go and explore, see what you can see.

I agree with you Mik. When I first got here I had no idea about ISG. Of course I did waste a lot of time and money in places like HBT bars, courtesy of taxi drivers, but I eventually started wondering around on my own on the motorbike. I started going into places and checking it out for myself. After 6-months to a year of being in VN did I find ISG.

I still go out and adventure on my own, trying places that have never been mentioned on this forum. Its hard to believe that the only good spots in HCM, or VN for that matter, are spoken about here. Try it for yourself. You'll find some deadends, or something that you dont want, but when you find a diamond in the ruff, the feeling is great!

PolyOrchid
10-16-10, 01:53
.....I'd love to simply blurt out the answer but I'm a firm believer in enabling people. By enabling you to find out for yourself you will gain a greater sense of achievement and acomplishment.Mik, Thanks, I think, maybe. I hope your contribution here has made you feel better; are you a teacher?

For anyone wasting time looking for Benny's, please let me be ever so explicit.

Dien Bien Phu (DBP) is a very long street, running through more than one district. So, for instance, I gave the moto driver the address of 110 Dien Bien Phu. His reply: "in which district, 1 or 3? " Well, the info from the post I read had not stated a district, so he took me to district 1. It's there that I found a restaurant, not a hot toc.

I came home and searched further and did find another post that did state it was in Binh Thanh (BT) district. So, I get on a moto again and sure enough, a mere half mile from my 110 DBP in district 1, I found 110 DBP in Binh Thanh district. And, voila, there's Benny's.

I have now figured out (correct me if I am wrong, you old timers) that Q is synonymous with district. I suspect it may be an abbreviation for "quartier", the French word for district.

And, finally, I personally have mixed feelings for Benny's. Is it worth 200,000? Yes, probably. Is it warm, friendly, inviting? Well, in my experience, no.

I went in, was escorted to a nice room by a quite beautiful 20 something Viet girl who instructed me to lay down in the reclining, dentist-like chair and motioned me to drop my trousers. I actually kicked them off and she rather brusquely grabbed them and pulled them back up on my lower legs. Hmmm.

So, she got down to business with some rather nice upper body massaging and then soon paid her respects to the little elephant. In an attempt to fully enjoy her ministrations, I kicked my pants and shorts off again

WOW, the girl freaked! She quickly grabbed them off the floor and put them back on my legs again. A bit of a buzz kill but, oh well, her house, her rules so we carried on.

All things considered, I would probably not return.

I later got my own motorbike and started driving and walking around in some districts where I saw no foreigners for hours. I believe Mik and Always Hard are correct in that exploring on your own is the way to go.

In my first 48 hours, I have found many Viets to be very friendly and welcoming.

Johndao
10-16-10, 06:04
Ho Chi Minh City's central area is divided into Districts, some with numbers and others with names. The numbered districts are NOT next to one another in numerical order. The central city has Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 by number and Binh Thanh, Tan Binh, Phu Nhuan, Go Vap, Tan Phu and Thu Duc by name. The Vietnamese word for District is Quan which is abbreviated Q. So Q BT would be Binh Thanh District. Most streets are short and located in only one district. But some streets are quite long and may be found over two or even three districts. You can pick up a city map at FAHASA bookshops on Le Loi St in Q1 or on Nguyen Hue St also in D1. These shops are right in the central tourist area of D1 near the big hotels.

Districts are divided in Wards, called Phuong in Vietnamese and often abbreviated by letter F. Most wards are numbered but some are named. For example, most people's favorite Blow and Gos are in District 1, Dakao Ward. District 1 is shaped kind of like an L turned on its side, so Dakao sort of sticks out into an area surrounded by D3, Phu Nhuan and Binh Thanh.

JD

Milkweed
10-16-10, 09:35
In an attempt to fully enjoy her ministrations, I kicked my pants and shorts off again.

Taking your pants off is not allowed in any of the hot tocs that I go to. Wait for the girl to take your pants down and then you can help her. Don't take them off. If the girl tells you to take them down, then again...don't take them off all the way. On NPK i take my shirt off. If I remember correctly, BenNy's doesn't want you to take it off either...just pull it up.

Anyway, i just wanted to say that the girl was being normal. Nothing strange about what she did (for SG HTs).

Mik Hcmc
10-16-10, 17:23
Mik, Thanks, I think, maybe. I hope your contribution here has made you feel better; are you a teacher?
I'm not sure how to take this, sounds like a backhanded compliment so
don't take it the wrong way but I feel like telling you to get f@cked.

This is the reason why I never spoon feed people. You have to earn it.

As for me being a teacher. NO. I don't have the patience to deal with people who don't want to learn, If you are interested then sure I can show you a thing or two but its up to you to work it out from there.



I came home and searched further and did find another post that did state it was in Binh Thanh (BT) district. So, I get on a moto again and sure enough, a mere half mile from my 110 DBP in district 1, I found 110 DBP in Binh Thanh district. And, voila, there's Benny's.

Once again failure to RTFF. Going back a few pages, months will usually answer most questions you have.



I have now figured out (correct me if I am wrong, you old timers) that Q is synonymous with district. I suspect it may be an abbreviation for "quartier", the French word for district.


There ya go, you've worked it out!
Now you can find all the other cryptic street names and districts.
Just have to post up your reports.

PolyOrchid
10-17-10, 06:56
OK, so I have my trusty Honda Wave and am cruising the city...decide to hit Binh Thanh district again. Going past Benny's, I see another hot toc a couple doors away and decide to give it a try.

The place is called MY TIEN and is at 90 Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. I went in and received a warm and cordial greeting from mamasan at the front desk. She pulls out a piece of paper and writes 250,000. I said "Benny's 200,000". "OK, 200,000" she says very quickly matching the competition.

Well, I had a much friendlier girl this time. Took me upstairs, laid me down, began quizzing me in Viet....and finally gave up, seeing I spoke not a word. She then unbuttons my shirt and pulls down my shorts and briefs.

Once again, I seek to break precedent and remove said briefs and shorts. Same reaction as Benny's as she grabs them and pulls back onto my lower legs.

I am stroking her ass and pussy under her dress and she pulls away....only to pull up her dress and remove her panties and also pulls down the top of her dress....for full access to two very large but firm breasts and a well-shaven pussy which she put my hand on.....very accommodating.

She had good technique and broke the bank in less than 5 minutes...either a tribute to her craftsmanship or a comment on my need.

All in all, a pleasant experience. She laughed and joked, complimented my little elephant and generally made me feel very welcome.

Paid my 200,000 at front desk, was given a bottle of La Vie water, and away I went.

Thumbs up for MY TIEN!

MutantChicken
10-17-10, 14:28
I'm not sure how to take this, sounds like a backhanded compliment so don't take it the wrong way but I feel like telling you to get f@cked.

This is the reason why I never spoon feed people. You have to earn it.

As for me being a teacher. NO. I don't have the patience to deal with people who don't want to learn, If you are interested then sure I can show you a thing or two but its up to you to work it out from there.


Once again failure to RTFF. Going back a few pages, months will usually answer most questions you have.

There ya go, you've worked it out!

Now you can find all the other cryptic street names and districts.

Just have to post up your reports.Mik I think you jave mistaken polyorchards lack of initiative in terms of RTFF as oppose to what it really is, ie stupidity, I mean someone has given him the address with the district name and if he had given that to the taxi driver in total instead of just the number and street name, then he would have got there, also try a bit of google might help.

Bespoke
10-17-10, 18:22
On the way out of HCMC crossing the Cha Gia Bridge from the Dong Tay highway (into D8) right past the big Prudential building is a massive KTV/Massage building. It looks almost like something you might see in Thailand. I didn't get a chance to stop and try it out but wonder if anyone has been here.

Maybe I will give it a try another time.

Milkweed
10-18-10, 00:50
The place is called MY TIEN and is at 90 Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. I went in and received a warm and cordial greeting from mamasan at the front desk. She pulls out a piece of paper and writes 250,000. I said "Benny's 200,000". "OK, 200,000" she says very quickly matching the competition.


This is a good report. It's so nice to read something like this, with fact's, numbers, and 1st hand experience.

And good negotiating. These places shouldn't cost more than 200,000.

The experience you had sounds very normal. Groping is normal in these places. Glad you found a friendly girl.

Raverboy
10-18-10, 04:56
On the way out of HCMC crossing the Cha Gia Bridge from the Dong Tay highway (into D8) right past the big Prudential building is a massive KTV/Massage building. It looks almost like something you might see in Thailand. I didn't get a chance to stop and try it out but wonder if anyone has been here.

Maybe I will give it a try another time.

You mean Cha Va Bridge? Can't find 'Cha Gia' Bridge. Is this east or west of Phu Dinh Bridge (Nguyen Van Luong)?

Raverboy
10-18-10, 05:23
Ho Chi Minh City's central area is divided into Districts, some with numbers and others with names...

Districts are divided in Wards, called Phuong in Vietnamese and often abbreviated by letter F. Most wards are numbered but some are named. For example, most people's favorite Blow and Gos are in District 1, Dakao Ward. District 1 is shaped kind of like an L turned on its side, so Dakao sort of sticks out into an area surrounded by D3, Phu Nhuan and Binh Thanh...

Nice primer on HCMC geography, JD.

One minor correction: Wards (Phuong) are often abbreviated by 'Ph.' Technically speaking, the letter 'F' does not exist in the Vietnamese alphabet.

Johndao
10-18-10, 07:28
Mik I think you jave mistaken polyorchards lack of initiative in terms of RTFF as oppose to what it really is, ie stupidity, I mean someone has given him the address with the district name and if he had given that to the taxi driver in total instead of just the number and street name, then he would have got there, also try a bit of google might help.
Guys,
Why so tough on Polyorchid? I would not say he is stupid at all, but he is new here and things can be confusing. From what he has written so far I give him 9.5/10 for initiative. So he got confused by HCMC Districts. Who here has not been confused by local addresses especially at first? This is a guy who did read the Forum first, he just made a small mistake cause he was more interested in getting his dick sucked than reading further. I was actually the first to mention Benny's here a while back and I even included a map and marked approximate location of the place in my post.

I think this guy is ok and may be an asset to the Vietnam threads, something we sorely need. Poly was on a bike on his own, scoping places his first week here! And he found one and checked it out and posted a report right away. I say we need more like him so let's treat him right. He's no Pokey Penguin or Joe Coodige types who can't find their way even given explicit directions. I have been helping Poly via PM and I hope in the future he'll be able to provide some more original photos for the VN Forum. We need that.

JD

Johndao
10-18-10, 07:46
Nice primer on HCMC geography, JD.

One minor correction: Wards (Phuong) are often abbreviated by 'Ph.' Technically speaking, the letter 'F' does not exist in the Vietnamese alphabet.
Yes, you are right Raver, there is no letter 'F' in the Vietnamese alphabet and Ward or Phuong is often abbreviated by 'P' or 'Ph'. I should have written that occasionally it is abbreviated as 'F' but usually as 'P' or 'Ph'. I was just trying to help others in all abbreviation eventualities. Where I live, my address is always written with 'F' for the ward, don't know why.

See attached, from the book "Footprint Vietnam" By Claire Boobbyer.

JD

Bespoke
10-19-10, 04:32
You mean Cha Va Bridge? Can't find 'Cha Gia' Bridge. Is this east or west of Phu Dinh Bridge (Nguyen Van Luong)?I'm not sure of the exact spelling b/c I heard "cha ya" bridge so given the southern accent it could be Cha Va. It is past the Nguyen Tri Phuong bridge if you are heading (west?) away from D1 on Dong Tay highway.

Bespoke
10-19-10, 04:47
You mean Cha Va Bridge? Can't find 'Cha Gia' Bridge. Is this east or west of Phu Dinh Bridge (Nguyen Van Luong)?It is indeed Cha Va bridge. I couldn't find on google maps but found it on diadiem.com. The street is Van Kiep near the Chau Van Liem circle if you're coming from district 5.

PolyOrchid
10-19-10, 07:53
My name is Polyorchid and I am a My Tien addict!

I really did NOT plan to stop there today but as fate often does, it presented me with an opportunity to go to Binh Thanh and I passed right by My Tien and Benny's. So, innocently enough, I decided to stop and get some pics of My Tien. Well, of course, for safety's sake, I had to pull off the highway and park to get a good picture.

Aw, hell, I'm here, and the girls are looking sweet so I might as well stop in for a good handmaiden's wank, so in I went.

I was immediately commandeered by what appeared to be Uncle Ho's long lost grand-niece and she whisked me into the back room. But, wait, just as she bulldozes me in, I catch the eye of a sweet young, ultra small breasted other girl. So I stopped the bulldozer and said "I want her". Which all involved immediately understood.

So, with the tag brilliantly and successfully executed, I proceed into the room with my future wife. And what a wise decision that was.

She was fun, funny, laughing, tickling me, etc. All in all, a very fun girl, with excellent A+ cups, perfectly fitting my profile of the perfect breast.

Lots of DFK, touching, groping, and finally, the elephant roared.

I even got a picture of her before I left. Never did ask her name, but a very sweet, accommodating, and ever so willing provider.

I have attached a picture of her and one of the front of both BENNY'S and MY TIEN. Remember, they are no more than 100 feet apart. My Tien at 90 Dien Bien Phu (DBP) and Benny's a little further down.

Johndao
10-21-10, 02:28
Ha has been working at the Blow and Go on NPK longer than any other. The shop is in it's fourth location (which was also the second, but now renovated) in five years. These pictures were taken in 2005.

JD

Alwayshard45
10-21-10, 09:36
There is a hotel in District 5 on Tran Hung Dao (Between Bui Huu Nghia and Tran Tuan Khai) that offers pretty good service. The entrance fee is 100,000, which includes use of the steam room, sauna, cold plunge etc., a 1 hour massage, plus at the end you can relax in an room with large couches with your massage girl, have a free drink (coffee, fresh juice etc.), a bowl of instant noodles with egg, and watch tv. Your massage girl will sit there with you and chat if you desire (you're not required to partake)

As far as extra services go, they all offer BBBJ but CIM will depend on each girl, but most of them do not. They are also not pushy about price. They dont ask how much you will tip. Before, there use to be a sign in every room that said the standard tip was 200k and the girls do not expect any more than that. However, the signs have been removed now, but they still work in the same fashion. Also, most of the girls there do a real good massage as well.

The facilities are good, but not great. Its an older hotel, but everything is clean. Overall its good a good bang for you dong kinda place. Sorry guys, I forget the name of the hotel as I am writing this post. If you are coming from D1 down THD, it will be on the left hand side of the street. Its a hotel, with massage and karaoke. The massage is open 24hours a day.

Alwayshard45
10-21-10, 18:48
So I was a bit bored tonight and there was a slight break in the rain so I decided to take a drive into District 7. I went down to Lam Van Ben to see if any cafe om's were open, but I couldn't see anything happening. Keep in mind it was late...11:30pm or so. I made a right turn onto Nguyen Thi Thap and saw a BUNCH of massage places open with a bunch of cute girls in short skirts. Not sure about services here. For some reason I have really had on my mind a cafe om (never been). I ended up making a left hand turn onto Le Van Luong (going back towards PMH). I drove for awhile until I came across 279. There was about 4 girls sitting out front and they kinda called me in as I passed by. This is a dark Cafe Om type place. I pulled in and chose the best looking of the 4. I would say they were a 7/10, all with large (above average) sized breasts. We went straight into the back area where they had 3 small couches, separated away from each other for "privacy". There was no one else there so it was no big deal to me.

Sat down and was offered some beverage. The girl and I chatted for a few mins, just some small talk, then she asked me to pull down the pants as she did the same. She cleaned me up and began to ask how much for a BBBJ. I said 100k and she giggled. Ended up paying 300k for BBBJ, coffee and house fee. Without looking up in the forum, I can't remember if this is average or 100k high. But anyways that's what happened. Service was good, she took her time, I never felt rushed. Afterward she gave me a quick neck and back rub to and then I was on my way.

This place seems to stay open late. Not easy to find in that area or for a cafe om. They seem to usually close around 11-11:30 pm. This places had a good selection of girls (small shop but many girls), and service was pretty good. Nothing spectacular but also not bad either. That's always a plus here in VN. The street is dark, not much lighting, but this place is easy to see in the evening, as there isn't much around it. I added a photo of the general area of which it is in.

Milkweed
10-22-10, 05:07
ended up paying 300k for bbbj, coffee and house fee. .

nice detailed report. thanks.

i don't like cafe oms. i've been to a few. in my experience the girls are not beautiful and the service is so so. i went to one in go vap that was ok, but too far for me now. my total cost was 100,000 including the drink, house fee, and tip. this was about a year ago.

i think the cafe om idea is so great. i'm a morning person and i have free time then. i'd love to go to a cafe for my morning coffee and get a bj at the same time. or even in the evening. i guess i'm thinking of something like a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in bangkok. a bj bar. but the cafe oms i've been to here just aren't that great.

PolyOrchid
10-22-10, 07:08
There is a hotel in District 5 on Tran Hung Dao (Between Bui Huu Nghia and Tran Tuan Khai) that offers pretty good service. The entrance fee is 100,000, which includes use of the steam room, sauna, cold plunge etc., a 1 hour massage, plus at the end you can relax in an room with large couches with your massage girl, have a free drink (coffee, fresh juice etc.), a bowl of instant noodles with egg, and watch tv. Your massage girl will sit there with you and chat if you desire (you're not required to partake)

As far as extra services go, they all offer BBBJ but CIM will depend on each girl, but most of them do not. They are also not pushy about price. They dont ask how much you will tip. Before, there use to be a sign in every room that said the standard tip was 200k and the girls do not expect any more than that. However, the signs have been removed now, but they still work in the same fashion. Also, most of the girls there do a real good massage as well.

The facilities are good, but not great. Its an older hotel, but everything is clean. Overall its good a good bang for you dong kinda place. Sorry guys, I forget the name of the hotel as I am writing this post. If you are coming from D1 down THD, it will be on the left hand side of the street. Its a hotel, with massage and karaoke. The massage is open 24hours a day.Interesting AH; great report.

I hate to go off beam here but let's say I just wanted to go and use the steam room, cold plunge, and sauna, for instance. Would they allow that. In other words, no massage, no bj, just use of facilities.

There's a similar place on Avenue Fortuna in Cebu, although Japanese, and I used to go there just for the use of the water facilities. It was great, and I'd like to find something similar here in Saigon.

Mik Hcmc
10-23-10, 05:23
Interesting AH; great report.

I hate to go off beam here but let's say I just wanted to go and use the steam room, cold plunge, and sauna, for instance. Would they allow that. In other words, no massage, no bj, just use of facilities.

There's a similar place on Avenue Fortuna in Cebu, although Japanese, and I used to go there just for the use of the water facilities. It was great, and I'd like to find something similar here in Saigon.


Poly, perhaps try the upstairs MP at Saigon Superbowl.
They have a large steam, sauna rooms, Hot baths, jacuzzi's pools.
Plenty of Jap/Korean clients there. I saw some punters eating fruit platters (and other foods can be ordered I'd guess) and drinking.

Johndao
10-23-10, 06:00
For some reason I have really had on my mind a cafe om (never been). I ended up making a left hand turn onto Le Van Luong (going back towards PMH). I drove for awhile until I came across 279. There was about 4 girls sitting out front and they kinda called me in as I passed by. This is a dark Cafe Om type place. I pulled in and chose the best looking of the 4. I would say they were a 7/10, all with large (above average) sized breasts. We went straight into the back area where they had 3 small couches, separated away from each other for "privacy". There was no one else there so it was no big deal to me.

Sat down and was offered some beverage. The girl and I chatted for a few mins, just some small talk, then she asked me to pull down the pants as she did the same. She cleaned me up and began to ask how much for a BBBJ. I said 100k and she giggled. Ended up paying 300k for BBBJ, coffee and house fee. Without looking up in the forum, I can't remember if this is average or 100k high. But anyways that's what happened. Service was good, she took her time, I never felt rushed. Afterward she gave me a quick neck and back rub to and then I was on my way.

Thanks for the report AH. The Cafe Om scene is in serious decline here in HCMC. HotToc cover just seems to work a lot better for them to feebly mask the true purpose of a Blow n Go. Also, I'd say 300k is way high for these dark and seedy, way down-market places on LVL in Q7. There used to be a bunch of places along NVL Highway before they widened it. Really a countryside feel to them with lots of very cute young girls to be had in very crude conditions. I paid just 30k for the coffee and 50k to the girls back then for BJ w/CIM. Later I increased tip to 70k to make it 100k all done. This ended in around 2007 though.

Last times I was around Le Van Luong and Lam Van Ben but nothing to write home about. Should be cheaper than the local Blow and Go HT places. I'd say 120k to 150k at these places should be more than enough, all done. Lots of ugly girls usually, won't hire them in the BnG places.

JD

Alwayshard45
10-23-10, 06:44
Thanks for the report AH. The Cafe Om scene is in serious decline here in HCMC. HotToc cover just seems to work a lot better for them to feebly mask the true purpose of a Blow n Go. Also, I'd say 300k is way high for these dark and seedy, way down-market places on LVL in Q7. There used to be a bunch of places along NVL Highway before they widened it. Really a countryside feel to them with lots of very cute young girls to be had in very crude conditions. I paid just 30k for the coffee and 50k to the girls back then for BJ w/CIM. Later I increased tip to 70k to make it 100k all done. This ended in around 2007 though.

Last times I was around Le Van Luong and Lam Van Ben but nothing to write home about. Should be cheaper than the local Blow and Go HT places. I'd say 120k to 150k at these places should be more than enough, all done. Lots of ugly girls usually, won't hire them in the BnG places.

JD

Haha, putting things into perspective of the Q.BT BnGs, yeah, I did pay a little high. Lesson learned. Thanks for the info JD. I had a good experience and I will probably do it again when the mood strikes. There are plenty of young beautiful girls there, but also an equal amount of old, washed up hags. They must have a superior level of service for them to still get paid enough tips. Im gonna check out some other ones in a different area that a VN friend of mine told me about, and I'll report back.

PolyOrchid
10-23-10, 12:48
Poly, perhaps try the upstairs MP at Saigon Superbowl.

They have a large steam, sauna rooms, Hot baths, jacuzzi's pools.

Plenty of Jap/Korean clients there. I saw some punters eating fruit platters (and other foods can be ordered I'd guess) and drinking.Thanks, Mik, will give it a try.

Dragonfly22
10-23-10, 14:07
I went to an NPK spot last April and was directed upstairs by a somewhat average girl, not great in the face or body but the skill set this girl had was amazing. Would definately request her again over some of the other cuties who have looks but no skills. She was fan...fuckin...tastic!

Toddtworip
10-24-10, 23:05
10am: i get up and hop into a taxi going north on hbt.

we take a right onto dbp still heading north.

i am headed just out of district 1 to either benny hot toc or my tien hot toc.

once you pass the river that runs horizontally, you will come up to:

"my tien" a hot toc on 90 dien bien phu

"benny a hot" toc on 110 dien bien phu

both will be on the right hand side as you are heading north.

the first one you will run into will be my tien and 3 more shops up, you will run into benny.

my taxi driver had a bit of a hard time understanding where i was going, but as soon as i have him stop the cab at "my tien" he turns his head around and smiles and says. "later i show you other girl"

the cab cost $30k dong, i don't have change so i give him $50k dong which is $5 usd.

i walk into my tien at around 10: 20am. they are already open with 4 young girls standing around talking, but no customers.

with my baseball cap and sunglasses on, the girls know why i am there and it isn't for a haircut or scalp massage. although scalp massages are fantastic!

some expats had said that you are to pay $200k dong up front and that is all.

a semi-older lady walks around behind the corner and tells me $100k dong.

so i lay $100k dong at the desk and head up the spiral staircase to the 2nd floor.

one of the young girls is following right behind me.

i was told by some expats that you can go ahead and choose the girl, but i felt that all the girls working today were 7/10 with one girl maybe an 8 and didn't feel like being picky. as i planned to be back a bunch during this week long period and would be able to comment on all the girls/experiences.

once we are on the 2nd floor the girl points to a room with a bunch of massage type tables with sinks attached to them.

she has me lay down and goes to the other room to get some towelettes.

she then helps me pull down my shorts/boxers down

and begins to wipe me down.

before she begins she pulls down her top and pulls down her panties.

she has nice large boobs and she is trimmed down below.

wow! 2 for 2. viet girls who are either trimmed or shaven. way different than from last year.

the girl is definitely a pro, won't get into the visual details as you all know what a bj is.

but between the fast and sometimes slow pace, the sucking and teasing to licking around the area, the experience was far better than average.

not to complain about [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in bkk/patts, as i always go there at least 2x per trip, but imho, the girls at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for a majority of them are not all that cute and at times the experience is a bit mechanical.

i felt that my first time at my tien, the girl, although a pro, made it less mechanical and made it an enjoyable morning.

one thing that cracked me up, was how this girl from the begin was speaking to me in vietnamese.

during the whole time, i never once said a word in vietnamese and she still continue to talk to me in vietnamese to the very end.

the whole experience lasted maybe 15 minutes and just before leaving the room i handed her $100k dong which brought up the total cost to $200k dong as stated by many expats as the standard price for both the shop and tip to the girl.

i guess they changed the set-up for now and are separating the cost to the shop and the amount to the girl.

now my original plan was to try both places this morning, but as soon as i was done at my tien hot toc, i felt that i maybe didn't have the energy for another round over at benny's.

as i stood there trying to decide if i should just go ahead and head into benny's a taxi pulls up, so i figured i would pass on benny's and head out for lunch.

Raverboy
10-25-10, 15:26
On the way out of HCMC crossing the Cha Gia Bridge from the Dong Tay highway (into D8) right past the big Prudential building is a massive KTV/Massage building. It looks almost like something you might see in Thailand. I didn't get a chance to stop and try it out but wonder if anyone has been here.

Maybe I will give it a try another time.

Just went out and rode the East West Highway (Dai Lo Dong Tay) from D1 to D6 and back trying to locate this place! Couldnt find anything around Cau Cha Va.

You said 'on the way out of HCMC crossing the Dong Tay highway...' So is this KTV/Massage building in D6 or D8? On what street? Van Kiep? Chau Van Liem? Crossing Cau Cha Va and arriving in D8, the street terminates at Ben Binh Dong.

Bespoke
10-25-10, 22:28
You said 'on the way out of HCMC crossing the Dong Tay highway...' So is this KTV/Massage building in D6 or D8? On what street? Van Kiep? Chau Van Liem? Crossing Cau Cha Va and arriving in D8, the street terminates at Ben Binh Dong.[/QUOTE]From DiaDiem's map (google does not seem to show the bridge) it looks like it is at the corner of Tung Thien Vuong and Ben Xom Cui. You start in D5, go over Van Kiep past the big prudential building that I think is to the right. Straight ahead past the right bend that you are forced to take as you cross the bridge, is the Cho Xom Cui (I think) with the KTV/Massage.

The best I can tell is that it is D8. If you're heading on Tung Thien Vuong heading towards D5 the place is immediately to your right before you take a left onto the bridge heading over to D5 and Van Kiep.

Hopefully it is clearer. I'm not in HCM at the moment so I can't add addition details at the moment.

Raverboy
10-26-10, 03:11
It is indeed Cha Va bridge. I couldn't find on google maps but found it on diadiem.com. The street is Van Kiep near the Chau Van Liem circle if you're coming from district 5.

Went back and found this place that you described accross from the Prudential Building in Q8, with the intention of trying it out.

This is a real run down building when you see it up close. At 10 pm on a monday night there were 2-3 security guys sitting around shooting the shit at the entrance to the parking area, saw only 2-3 bikes parked. The whole place looked a little nasty so I passed.

Johndao
10-26-10, 17:13
I can not understand why this endless discussion about some KTV/massage place out of town. The OP never even wrote that he went there, just said he drove by it. It probably looked bright, all lit up with neon. By the way you guys have been writing about it and looking for it and mapping it and speculating about its exact location, you'd think it held the Holy Grail of HCMC brothel secrets. It's just another place with Karaoke and Massage, the same as what you can find at a hundred hotels in town.

I can't wait for the actual breathless user reports, something like: "Found the place, paid 100k for a massage ticket, led to a room, an ok girl came in and began massage. She could not speak any English. Finally toward the end of the hour got down to my goods and started negotiations. We agreed on HJ for 200k but she held a towel over me and kept her eye on the window. Did not allow any groping. Took me 2 hours to get home as I was so far out of town I was lost."

Karaoke report: "Went to a room with a pretty girl. She had a lot of beer which she accidentally kept spilling because she was so drunk. She ordered fruit and opened lots of bags of snacks. We sang some awful songs and then some guy said 'closing time' and gave me a bill for 500k Dong. I got lost on the way home cause I was so far from home and I was drunk."

Maybe I'll start a thread. "Oh, I saw a bar in Nha Be (cryptic directions, blah, blah, blah) and it had lights and I think I spotted a girl inside."

Then there can be endless replies from guys looking for it and seeing what magical wonders lay inside.

JD

Raverboy
10-27-10, 04:23
I can not understand why this endless discussion about some KTV/massage place out of town. The OP never even wrote that he went there, just said he drove by it. It probably looked bright, all lit up with neon. By the way you guys have been writing about it and looking for it and mapping it and speculating about its exact location, you'd think it held the Holy Grail of HCMC brothel secrets. It's just another place with Karaoke and Massage, the same as what you can find at a hundred hotels in town...

Simple. 2 reasons:

1. I enjoy the adventure of getting on my bike and going to a part of HCMC I'd otherwise have no reason to be in, except for the search of pussy.

I was completely aware that the OP never even wrote he went there. That's why I went, with the intention of trying it and reporting about it here. Some contribute with awesome photos, others 'give back to the board' in their own way. Is that ok with you? This isnt the Photo Section, is it? ;)

2. Precisely because you can find Karaoke and Massage places at 'a hundred hotels in town', I intend to visit as many as I can while I'm here because a) I'm still young, b) see reason #1 above, and c) I'm always in search of that gem that will deliver that ultimate GFE/PSE - whichever my mood dictates, to claim as my regular pet. Check my posts, my search brings me to the rest of ASEAN, as and when I desire.

It's like a drug. Once you've tried it, you're constantly searching for that first-time high. I am old enough to know that I'll never find the same high as that first time ever again, but I'm going to let myself think that I can before I die and in doing so, I would have lived my life to the fullest in the meantime!

Make sense to you? Doesnt matter, I don't really care.

Willy Wally
10-29-10, 12:23
Well, I went to Rona Massage the other day. The lady showed me an 'official' price list, and the price for body massage was 150k. So I give it to her, then proceeded in a small room where a very cute woman gave me a great massage. At the end she asks if I want to have 'baby massage' and of course I say yes, but then I had to tell her how much tip I'd leave if she did it... remembering what people said here, that you usually leave the same tip as the house price, I offered her 200k for baby massage (I didn't have 150k on me!) or 120k for the massage if she didn't want to (it was worth it, such a great massage). I told her 'no bargaining' and she had to make a choice. She decided to massage the baby, with great skills!

Do you think I was stupid and gave too much tip? I know 350k+ for a happy ending massage is very expensive here but I felt the place was very clean, good quality, and the girl very sexy. I had the feeling I wouldn't have such a great experience at a 200k parlor, and this place is just a few minutes walk from my residence, so I don't need a taxi or motorbike.

Mik Hcmc
10-30-10, 02:49
this place is just a few minutes walk from my residence, so I don't need a taxi or motorbike.

It doesn't really matter what you tipped. Were you happy with the service?
Will you go back?
If you go back will you get the same service?

Chances are you will return, and you will be paying the same price again.
However you will most probably get good service for the tip you paid since its higher than what locals pay, but remember you reward good service with a tip, bad service you either don't tip (like I've done in the past) or you tip 20-50k.

If you are a regular you will build up a good relationship and possibly discount on ticket price like I had with one MP a couple yrs back. I would get half price ticket or free since I was "cumming" everyday.

Will it drive up the price?
Probably not since that is what normal tourists will tip.

Sounds like you've found a good place to get your stress's relieved.

Alwayshard45
11-02-10, 09:22
So I know there are quiet a few guys out there who live in the District 10/11 area, so hopefully this will bring some smiles to a few of you. Where 3/2 Street and Hong Bang Street meet at a large round-a-bout type of intersection there is another street called Minh Phuong (see attached map). This street is littered with ca phe om's. During the day time there are only a few open (about 3 or 4 shops) but in the evening there are probably 9 or 10 shops. In terms of service and quality, each shop is different.

Based on the advice of others on this forum about ca phe om's, I went out and tried a bunch over the past few days. On the map you will see green and red areas. Red meaning they do services in-house, where as the green areas, they want you to take them out to a hotel, but its based on your barging etc. All of them have girls sitting next to you, holding etc. The shops closer to Binh Thoi Street have girls that do services right there in the shop, HJ/BJ etc, but generally they are not as good looking. The shops closer to the round-a-bout have great looking girls, and young, but they will cost more and they don't have any available services at the store.

I went to a shop (cant remember name or number, sorry guys) close to Binh Tnoi street and had a great BBBJ, a coffee, and good conversation with a girl for about 100k total. Keep in mind this is pretty far from D1, they dont speak any English. Probably not even a little. Every girl I saw spoke not 1 word, aside from "hello" in English. But dont be intimidated, they know why you are there.

Alwayshard45
11-07-10, 04:35
Drove into D7 yesterday and was looking for a good BnG shop. I ended up at 561 because there were a few cuties that I could see from the road. I pull and a cute one gets up to open the door and bring me in. Usually that means she is the girl going to service you...right? haha. I get into the stall I was told to take off my shirt and pull down my pants, then the girl leaves, for what I think is to get some clean wipes. After a min or two, another girl walks in for the service. She is FAT, but still had a cute face. I asked where the other girl when and she said she had a phone call. At this point I already have my pants down and ready to be blown, so I allow her to go ahead with it. Worst decision EVER. The girl's snatch was disgusting! I can't even describe what I felt in that jungle down there. SO hairy and discusting. I have nightmares because of it now! Then to makes things even worse, the BBBJ was horrendous. She only put her mouth around the tip, constantly jacking me way to fast from the begging, then stopped sucking on my rod to lick my chest, while continueing to jack me off. So it was more of a BBHJ with a little bit of mouth on the tip (generally for about 3-5 seconds). I complain and said she was horrible and I wanted a different girl. She said I need to pay the house fee and her tip, then another girl would come in. Yes, Im ok with that, since you were so horrible. But she said the "massage" fee was 200k and her tip was 200k.

At this point, I was in no mood for her BS or negotiating. I laughed. Pulled up my pants, through 100k on the table and walked out. She starts complaining as I was leaving, saying I didnt pay her anything as I promised etc. There was another guy coming in (VNese) and as he walks in and I'm leaving, I start to tell him what these girls were doing here. The guy seemed unhappy and also didnt want to get robbed like me and we walked out together.

I for one, will never come back to this place again. Even if they have Ms. Vietnam working there. I dont do bait-n-switch shops.

AH

Tra Zmo
11-07-10, 09:12
O yeah!

Mongered under a different handle in NYC, SF & LA, now a happy monger in HCMC.

Took a run on my moto to DBP this morning to check out Benny after RTFF: my only surprise was how big an operation it is.

Plenty of girls to choose from, I got one with large(-ish for a Viet) boobs and a toothy smile.

100 at the desk and up we go to the dentist. A few minutes patting me down before she stroked my lad, got encouragement and motioned me to wait. Back in a moment, beckoning me to the back room to an empty booth (recently vacated by a fellow western monger, one of a group).

No negotiation, no messing- we both knew what I'm there for! Down with my pants, up with my shirt, out with her tits and down with her pants and we're off!

Good pace, variety & technique.

Careful wipe down of all my best bits before and after the tubes get blown, no probs with me delving in her best bits either.

Job done, 100 note to her and I'm gone.

Think I was supposed to go back to the first chair for a bit of a massage or TLC but I wasn't bothered.

Next safari will be to Benny's neighbor- for research purposes only, of course.

Johndao
11-08-10, 08:23
I don't do bait-n-switch shops.
AH
Yes you do, you just wrote about one! They baited and switched you and you went for it. Maybe you meant to write, "I won't fall for a 'Bait-n-Switch' again".

Hey, I am writing this with good humor. I consider AH an ISG Buddy and a fellow mongerer who knows his way around.

JD

Alwayshard45
11-08-10, 15:36
Yes you do, you just wrote about one! They baited and switched you and you went for it. Maybe you meant to write, "I won't fall for a 'Bait-n-Switch' again".

Hey, I am writing this with good humor. I consider AH an ISG Buddy and a fellow mongerer who knows his way around.

JD

Ok, ok. You've got me there! Well, the main point is, I wont let this happen AGAIN! Haha. And without any question, I will never revisit this place again. My left palm and a movie are a better choice then ever going there again.

Geneva Guy
11-25-10, 17:01
Was looking for another legit massage place tonite, and went to one on HBT sort of across from the 49-51 bar area. Place was in the alley off the street. 300K for 60 mins. Ok, I have a bit of $ to burn cause I leave for Singapore tomorrow.

Girl was hot, had one of those "cleopatra" haircuts, but teeth were bad, and hands smelled like garlic (I thought that only happened in the Korean places). I actually fell asleep on my stomach and she tapped me to wake me up. I turned over and she started on my legs and thighs. Then make the "you want HJ" motion. I said sure. She said "quiet, people in next room" and then pulls out her phone and types 2, 000, 000 VND for a HJ. I actually laughed out loud. And I mean loud. She shoosed me again and then said 1 million. I laughed even louder.

I told her in a hushed voice. "I can go across the street and fuck a girl for 2 million VND". So, she finished the massage I gave her 100K (the massage was good) and left. I'm sure she was pissed. But, oh well. I asked her if she worked after work. No response.

Off to Singapore,

GG

Greywolf69
11-25-10, 19:07
How safe is it to get bbbj's from these hoc toc places? I mean these girls do it for a living day in and day out and it's probably safe to assume not all their customers are std free.

Johndao
11-26-10, 02:57
Was looking for another legit massage place tonite, and went to one on HBT sort of across from the 49-51 bar area. Place was in the alley off the street. 300K for 60 mins. Ok, I have a bit of $ to burn cause I leave for Singapore tomorrow.

Girl was hot, had one of those "cleopatra" haircuts, but teeth were bad, and hands smelled like garlic (I thought that only happened in the Korean places). I actually fell asleep on my stomach and she tapped me to wake me up. I turned over and she started on my legs and thighs. Then make the "you want HJ" motion. I said sure. She said "quiet, people in next room" and then pulls out her phone and types 2, 000, 000 VND for a HJ. I actually laughed out loud. And I mean loud. She shoosed me again and then said 1 million. I laughed even louder.

I told her in a hushed voice. "I can go across the street and fuck a girl for 2 million VND". So, she finished the massage I gave her 100K (the massage was good) and left. I'm sure she was pissed. But, oh well. I asked her if she worked after work. No response.

Off to Singapore,

GGFunny! You could have told her to go ahead with the HJ when she asked 1 million, then giver her 100k after. If she has a problem with that, tell her you did not understand all the zeros and that anyway, 100k is fine for massage and HJ tip.
JD

AdHome01
11-26-10, 08:59
How safe is it to get bbbj's from these hoc toc places? I mean these girls do it for a living day in and day out and it's probably safe to assume not all their customers are std free.

It is safe to asume the girls get STD's from time to time. I know a few massage and bar girls and they don't seem to think it's much of a problem. They really dont seem the understand the seriousness of the different. If you explain the science of it they'll think your making it up and stick to their 'passed down and around beliefs'. The truth is they all get them, as you would expect.

Anyone who has had a long term relationship with a local Viet girl will understand what I'm talking about.

Hero9009
11-30-10, 20:44
I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?

The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?

Doodie1
12-01-10, 09:28
They changed the rules, you have to go in and eat first and then they take you to the secret place. Over the bridge in Q Binh Thanh, ask the cute little waitress for details.

Hero9009
12-01-10, 23:20
They changed the rules, you have to go in and eat first and then they take you to the secret place. Over the bridge in Q Binh Thanh, ask the cute little waitress for details.Are you serious?

AdHome01
12-02-10, 00:29
I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?

The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?

I think you were still in D1. You want Binh Thanh (BT) district.

Outinsg
12-02-10, 07:49
Hi,

Anyone have a report on Dai Nam massage? Quality of girls? Quality of service? Price? Tip?

Thanks

Doodie1
12-02-10, 09:34
Yes, I am serious, go over the bridge to Quan Binh Thanh.

Johndao
12-03-10, 03:51
At Khai Hoan Blow 'n Go in District 7 both the girl and you, get completely naked. The massage tables are double or triple wide so she gets up on the table with you. It's a nice feeling being completely naked rather than having your pants and underwear on down at your thighs and her having just popped her tits out and pulled her undies down as is standard on DBP and NPK shops. There are many interesting positions you can try out compared to the one where she simply stands beside the table with you on your back. Body to body, naked contact feels good. As at other Blow 'n Gos there is no fucking but she can sit on you and grind and rub.

Please take note: The girls may not be as good-looking overall as on NPK or DBP, or they may be just as good-looking. They are not as well trained in BJ and CIM as Benny's or NPK girls, etc. They may be great, they may not be. They may take your CIM or they may dodge it. But the cost is fixed at only 200k for the house and girl and includes the tip. Nobody will ask any more and there is no need to discuss price except to confirm it the first time when you go in.

All in all, if you are in the neighborhood and have a load of cum you want to spill, it's hard to go wrong for only 200k which after all, is nearly free.

Khai Hoan, Nguyen Thi Thap St. District 7, on the south side of the street, near the intersection with Lam Van Ben St. A green sign above the door.

JD

Milkweed
12-04-10, 11:24
I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?

The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?

I went there yesterday. It's there. Everything is the same. FYI a coke at Benny's is 20,000. Yikes.

PolyOrchid
12-05-10, 02:48
I drove by here and both look shut down. Am I on the wrong street? It's right before the bridge right? One is closed up and Benny's seems to be a restaurant now?

The street is Điện Biên Phủ right?Hero, since I was a newcomer very recently (and still very very junior here in hcmc) I will try to give you the help some very patiently extended to me.

I suspect you were still in District 1 where you were looking for the Dien Bien Phu addresses because the same addresses exist in District 1 as over on the Binh Thanh side.

Keep going and cross the bridge. Stay on the far right side of the road and you will soon turn off the main road into the frontage road adjacent to the main road.

Both shops are not that far along after you cross the bridge. I was by there yesterday and at that time, BENNY's flashing light sign was no longer in view but still a large sandwich board sign with the name.

I hope this helps.

AdHome01
12-12-10, 10:09
Khai Hoan, Nguyen Thi Thap St. District 7, on the south side of the street, near the intersection with Lam Van Ben St. A green sign above the door.

JDJD, many thanks for this gem! Other then being out a little, this is the best Hot Toc / BJ / MP I've been to in HCM.

When I was finished, I handed over my 200k and was out the door. The girl didn't even ask for a tip.

Not hard to find, just look for the green sign.

Thanks again!

Johndao
12-13-10, 03:01
JD, many thanks for this gem! Other then being out a little, this is the best Hot Toc / BJ / MP I've been to in HCM.

When I was finished, I handed over my 200k and was out the door. The girl didn't even ask for a tip.

Not hard to find, just look for the green sign.

Thanks again! I am glad you had a good time. It's not that she did not ask for a tip. Basically it is 100k for the house and 100k for the girl, fixed 'tip. ' So no need for her to ask, you paid it already. They tell you 200k because that is all it is. Places where girls haggle and beg for tips are rip-off joints, not standard Vietnam Massa BJ places.

JD

Milkweed
12-14-10, 08:15
"My Tien" a Hot Toc on 90 Dien Bien Phu.

"Benny a Hot" Toc on 110 Dien Bien Phu.

Both will be on the right hand side as you are heading North.

The first one you will run into will be My Tien and 3 more shops up, you will run into Benny.

I went to My Tien yesterday. Girls aren't as good looking as at Benny's in my opinion. Picked the best looking one, Nhi. Service was good. She had bumps on her legs and butt. Don't know what that was about. I paid 200k upon arrival, but the girl asked me for a tip after the massage. Ignored her and went to leave. They actually seemed to hesitate with my motorbike as there was some discussion in tviet. I assume about the tip. Anyway, that only lasted for a moment and then I was bid farewell. Average experience.

Johndao
12-16-10, 17:31
OH my hahahaha. The smell is just because, I don't know if you ever been in Cambodia, same, they eat like dogs, continuosly, and with hands, no forks or spoon. So, unluckly for you, she just finish to eat few mins before you came haha.

The price was 200. 000 vnd, not 2mil trust me haha. She wrote 1mil, was 100. 000. Pissed obiouvsly because you laugh for a normal cheap price, for tourists. Reason is simple. 99% of workers have zero instruction, neither elementary school, so they barely know how to use a pen. Seems you never tried to ask the price for a phone to a local little store. The phone's price is 200. 000, not 2mil like he will write, it's a shit Chinese copy, and you're going to have local price, don't laugh! Hahahahaa Next time you go to HCM say to her "Hey, I can fuck a young girl for 100. 000, so 50. 000 (not 5 mil eh hahaha) is more than enough", and pretend a THANKS! When finish, if able to make you cum hahahahahaa. Yes, I think Marrow may be right, people here are totally confused about numbers, even when using their own language. It may be their lack of education, or it may be their general carelessness in all matters, or it may be they are confused by so many zeros in their money after decades of inflation due to economic mismanagement. I have had people tell me something is 500 Dong when they meant 500 thousand and so have you.

JD

Best01
12-28-10, 15:44
Any advices for the last day of the year?

Mik Hcmc
12-29-10, 04:26
Any advices for the last day of the year?Go get farked?

Or blown?

I'm thinking about dropping by the FSMP's.

Anyone been to one recently? What are the girls there like?

I havn't been there for close to 1yr, despite living in the area and riding past them usually once a week.

AdHome01
12-30-10, 00:03
Yes, I think Marrow may be right, people here are totally confused about numbers, even when using their own language. It may be their lack of education, or it may be their general carelessness in all matters, or it may be they are confused by so many zeros in their money after decades of inflation due to economic mismanagement. I have had people tell me something is 500 Dong when they meant 500 thousand and so have you.

JDThey do often get confused when saying the numbers but not when it comes to using them. In my 5 plus years of coming here, I've yet to have someone give me the wrong amout of change. In my favor. If there is one thing the Viet people know, it's money and numbers.

To be honest, I do the same thing sometimes when talking about money in Viet.

Tio Rajo
01-03-11, 06:57
At Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 both the girl and you, get completely naked. The massage tables are double or triple wide so she gets up on the table with you. It's a nice feeling being completely naked rather than having your pants and underwear on down at your thighs and her having just popped her tits out and pulled her undies down as is standard on DBP and NPK shops. There are many interesting positions you can try out compared to the one where she simply stands beside the table with you on your back. Body to body, naked contact feels good. As at other Blow 'and Gos there is no fucking but she can sit on you and grind and rub.

Khai Hoan, Nguyen Thi Thap St. District 7, on the south side of the street, near the intersection with Lam Van Ben St. A green sign above the door.

JDWent out and about yesterday and, sure enough, Khai Hoan is exactly as advertised. For those looking, there are a lots of green signs along Nguyen Thi Thap street since that whole stretch of road is a absolute riot of shops selling a wide variety of things, mainly home construction goods such as granite and the like. The number for Khai Hoan is 261.

Had a nice young girl named Trang. 21, from Dong Nai province. She's been in HCMC about three years. Very small in the chest and limited in terms of talent. What she lacked in talent, she made up for in terms of good attitude and sticking with the task at hand. Not like others who get all whiny when you don't finish in 2. 3 seconds. She gave me a big smile and a hug when we were leaving the room and was fine when I paid the 200k at the desk on the way out.

All in all, well worth the trip out to D7. Thanks, JD!

Mik Hcmc
01-03-11, 09:39
592/5 Cong Hoa P13 Tan Binh.

I have seen and passed this MP numerous times. Its located next to the Sapaco Bus Terminal (the bus to Cambodia) in Tan Binh.

I paid the 80k ticket, entered the change room. Theres an attendant who will stick to you unfortunately (the type that wants a tip for putting a key in a lock and turning it etc) I waved him off and put my clothes in the locker, my valuables in the plastic zip bag and locked my locker.

I went into the steambath and it was nothing special. There is a large footbath with polished smooth river stones in some medicated / brownish water, well I hope its medicated haha, Behind that is a jacuzzi and next to the steam room is the dry sauna.

Had a hot shower and put on the supplied shorts and half robe top.

Walked up 2 stories and into a nice dimly lit walled in cubical. The entry door had the top section of the window clear with the usual frosting 3/4 the way down.

The girl who arrived was a stunning 20yr old. She didn't say much, neither did I but she had the most lovely touch. She gave me a nicely oiled up back massage, legs etc.

I flipped over and she did my head, arms / hands and then my legs. After she finnished with my legs she stood there and barely touched my nipple. Just enough to know she was touching it but not enough to feel something. It was more to do with my imagination than anything else and soon I had sprung up to attention.

She helped slide my shorts down and put a towel over my stomach. I had a chance to feel around and I did. I think she was on her rags as I felt something like a pad in her panties. She pulled her shirt up a bit, put my hand up inside and helped move her bra enough for me to get my hand inside.

I played with her nipples and her tiny titty.

She was smiling through out the whole time she was stroking me.

Soon enough I blew my load and she kept stroking, Even after I had gone soft she gave the old fella a bit of a massage still.

After that she wiped me down and cleaned her hands, got my shorts back up and I sat up while she massaged my back / shoulders and gave me some nice hugs from behind.

I tipped her 100k and told her happy new yr.

Nice place, Plenty of attendants, perhaps too many as they all start wanting tips for doing things I've been doing for myself since I can remember.

If your out that way then go check it out.

Total 180k.

Tiger 888
01-05-11, 09:11
Does Khai Hoan, Benny or My Tien have showers? I plan to visit but would feel more comfortable to get my sweat of first.
What is Eros Cafe and Cafe Boulevard a bit further down the road from Benny?

Alwayshard45
01-05-11, 09:13
Does Khai Hoan, Benny or My Tien have showers? I plan to visit but would feel more comfortable to get my sweat of first.I've never been offered one, and I'd really doubt if any of them did. It's not a MP.

Johndao
01-13-11, 02:50
I think you can get your rocks off at places like Hello, Spa in Phu My Hung, District 7 on Hung Gia 2 St. Also at Lucky on Hung Gia 4. Both have a 200k ticket. Not sure how you get them off or what it will cost you. Fixed or negotiable. Anyone want to try them out and write a report? Someone did a report on Hello, a while back and mentioned something like 1 mil + for FS but there were no confirming reports and his report was confusing. Someone check them out please.

JD

Pici Picidae
01-13-11, 04:26
I think you can get your rocks off at places like Hello, Spa in Phu My Hung, District 7 on Hung Gia 2 St. Also at Lucky on Hung Gia 4. Both have a 200k ticket. Not sure how you get them off or what it will cost you. Fixed or negotiable. Anyone want to try them out and write a report? Someone did a report on Hello, a while back and mentioned something like 1 mil + for FS but there were no confirming reports and his report was confusing. Someone check them out please.

JDThe Report was OK. But when you don't find it what can I do?

Kodanana
01-13-11, 18:35
Anh Chi 2 at Su Van Hanh, District 10 just got busted on the spot with 2 Vietnamese pair the other day as reported in the local newspaper.

The Communist Party Congress is on as you're seeing this and there might be some crack down at selective place, just for the sake of it.

Also, as Lunar New Year fast approaching, many ladies now heading back to their home town, and the supply might be limited at some places. I noticed Benny currently closed for renovation, however, Khanh Linh down the road is picking up it's spill and quite busy.

Business as usuall at NPK.

Ngu Ngon
01-13-11, 18:42
Went at about 5. 30pm today. I'd previously used this place a couple of times a couple of years back. Same inside. Outside just a bloke sitting on a chair, but girls in the door way.

As I went in, a girl started speaking English to me. I replied in Vietnamese. She told me VND100, 000 which I gave to the woman at the till. 3 or 4 girls were milling around. One took me to the cubicle but there was another girl sleeping inside who sprung to life. She was Ha&768; . She looked fine to me and the other girls backed off. It seemed they were happy for me to pick, but I was happy with the default. As I settled down she fiddled around with her mobile a bit which was annoying. She also was keen to speak English, but wasn't very good. She said "you want ken, yes". A little pushy. I didn't want a "ken" but was thirsty so asked for a 7-UP. No 7-UP so I asked for water. She returned with 7-UP, nice and cool. She then suggested I buy one for her. Not sure if she was joking but she didn't push it. Trousers down. She gave me a good wipe. In fact it left me a bit raw. Boobs out. She played with my nipples then licked whilst her hand started to work. She had nice boobs with slightly pointy nipples. Told me she was 27 which I believe. HJ, BBBJ. Lots of sucking and great enthusiasm. 10/10 for effort but I was kinda distracted. I'm sure CIM would have been possible but I finished with HJ. Got some good fingering in downstairs. She helped by pulling her knickers down a bit and parting her legs.

I sat up, she was keen to do a bit of back massage and remind me of her name and that I should ask for her. Her English was not bad, a foreigner would find this useful. But we switched to Vietnamese. I asked her if many foreigners came there. She said many every day. I got ready to go. She told me VND20, 000 for the 7-UP. I gave her this and VND100, 000. She said it was too little. I said I knew it was standard. She asked for another VND50, 000. I refused, but did hesitate. I'm often inclined to give a little extra if someone comes out with good English where I don't expect it (eg taxi drivers). Anyway she didn't push it but she wasn't all smiles. As I left a couple of other girls said come back soon.

I feel this place is veering toward being a foreigner place. I don't remember any English on my visits ages ago. Seems a few of the girls have English and many foreigners go there now. I disliked the slight push for a drink and then the slight haggle at the end, but overall job done for VND200, 000.

Milkweed
01-14-11, 08:22
[QUOTE=Ngu Ngon; 1112073]I feel this place is veering toward being a foreigner place. I don't remember any English on my visits ages ago. Seems a few of the girls have English and many foreigners go there now. I disliked the slight push for a drink and then the slight haggle at the end, but overall job done for VND200, 000. [/QUOTE.

When I went to My Tien the girl wanted extra money too. That crap's annoying. And the 20, 000 drink. Benny's charges the same amount. I was surprised at the price. But at Benny's nobody's ever asked me for more than 200, 000. On the other hand. Some of the girls at Benny's don't allow fingering.

200, 000 is enough. And if I'm thirsty I'll go to a cafe before I go to the Hot Toc. It's difficult to enjoy a drink while your on your back.

BigGuyVietnam
01-18-11, 06:53
Hello, Spa is a fuck shop. I've had a couple of girls there. Kind of cute but nothing spectacular. One girl named Huu is pretty keen, but none of them are particularly great. Massage first and then they ask if you want a fuck. Most of the girls I've had didn't ask for a particular amount of money, although one girl did ask for a million. The rooms are quiet and private, but they have standard sized massage tables, so not really comfortable for certain things. Had one girl there last year who had the best looking ass I've ever pumped. Really nice with a great pair of legs. I think her name was Thanh. Anyhow, the place is big with the local Koreans, so there isn't usually a big selection of girls waiting in the lobby. It's generally pretty quiet during the week. I might go there this week and check things out again, so I'll let you know if anything has changed.


I think you can get your rocks off at places like Hello, Spa in Phu My Hung, District 7 on Hung Gia 2 St. Also at Lucky on Hung Gia 4. Both have a 200k ticket. Not sure how you get them off or what it will cost you. Fixed or negotiable. Anyone want to try them out and write a report? Someone did a report on Hello, a while back and mentioned something like 1 mil + for FS but there were no confirming reports and his report was confusing. Someone check them out please.

JD

Johndao
01-19-11, 09:07
Thanks for the report Big Guy,

About money, you said only one girl asked for money and it was a million. How much have you given the girls the other times you have been there? I see the ticket downstairs is 200k.

JD

Johndao
01-19-11, 09:28
I was curious to count how many Hot Toc, Cat Toc, Blow Job massage places, and also how many Xong Hoi Xoa Bop (steambath and massage) places I could spot along a certain stretch of roads in District 7. Because the shops have small entrances and because the streets are so crowded in the daytime, it's often difficult to see any at all! People and shops and their wares are all over the street and the traffic is heavy, so not easy to see them. I decided to wait till around 9:30 PM when most other businesses are closed, but these are still open.

The road (s) in question are Le Van Luong St going south from 15 St. To Nguyen Thi Thap St, then heading east on that street till Tan My. I counted 12 Barbershp, Hot Toc, Cat Toc Blow Job places and six Xong Hoi Xoa Bop places in all. The BJ places all offer BBBJ with CIM and some degree of nudity and unlimited hand and finger roaming for a flat 200k including everything for 15-30 minutes. The Xong Hoi places do not offer sex, but many of the massage girls are young and often cute and will ask you if you want a hand job around 40 or 50 mins into a one hour massage. Before the massage there is an herbal steambath and often a dry sauna as well. Ticket prices are cheap at 50-80k only and you can tip the girl 50k or maybe more if she does the hand job well and you like her. I usually put another 10k in the basket for the boys in the locker room. I prefer these xong hoi xoa bop places after a CIM BJ and I decline the HJ as I am already fully relaxed. The massage is much better in my opinion if you have just cum already. Also, I instruct the girl as to what kind of massage I like which usually includes a lot of neck and shoulder and some back work. Little on the extremities and no jumping on me or cracking or twisting my fingers or toes.

I found the people at Vinh Thinh Xong Hoi Xoa Bop to be friendly. It's quite crowded at night but not so in the afternoon. Ticket is only 60k and I was surprised by the youth and cuteness of my rather large breasted massage girl from Tra Vinh. Forty minutes in she asked me if I'd be wanting a handjob, to which I replied 'do you want to give me a handjob? ' She said it was up to me. I asked if she likes doing handjobs and she replied that she does not, but that customers often want it so management tells her to offer it under the towel. I told her I like it by mouth and hand only and she said they can not, and she does not do that. A nice girl, real pretty, No English of course. Her smooth, cool, bare legs sitting on my back and ass felt good.

JD

Cappy
01-20-11, 19:03
I visited Lucky Spa this evening. There was an attractive crop of young attendants. I wasn't too disappointed with the young lady whose turn it was for me.

I was offered and accepted a shower following which I took my place on the ground level bed.

The massage was decent and passable. Several times I tried to reach for my attendant but I was rebuked.

At finish time I pointed to her mouth and she proceeded with a BBBJ. There was no money discussed or offered. I tried to take it to the next level but was declined.

Things became a bit messy at pay-time. They insisted that the 200, 000 ticket was just for the house. There should be another 500, 000 for the girl. I didn't have that kind of money, so they said to pay her next time.

As I was leaving I talked to another western patron who also on his way out and asked him for his advice. He confirmed it. If the lady gives good service he pays 300 for baby massage. 500 for BJ and 1 million for FS. I was shocked.

So there you have it folks. Is it fact or fiction? Or is this a case of another da_n foreigner ruinging the market for others.

Johndao
01-21-11, 04:54
I visited Lucky Spa this evening. There was an attractive crop of young attendants. I wasn't too disappointed with the young lady whose turn it was for me.

I was offered and accepted a shower following which I took my place on the ground level bed.

The massage was decent and passable. Several times I tried to reach for my attendant but I was rebuked.

At finish time I pointed to her mouth and she proceeded with a BBBJ. There was no money discussed or offered. I tried to take it to the next level but was declined.

Things became a bit messy at pay-time. They insisted that the 200, 000 ticket was just for the house. There should be another 500, 000 for the girl. I didn't have that kind of money, so they said to pay her next time.

As I was leaving I talked to another western patron who also on his way out and asked him for his advice. He confirmed it. If the lady gives good service he pays 300 for baby massage. 500 for BJ and 1 million for FS. I was shocked.

So there you have it folks. Is it fact or fiction? Or is this a case of another da_n foreigner ruinging the market for others. Thanks for your report Cappy. Certainly you did not think that the 200k at the desk was for the girl and the house, did you? This is a villa in a residential area of Phu My Hung and includes 1 hour of the girl's time, a bed, a shower. The hole in the wall places where you pay 200k all done are just pull down your pants and get it done in 15-20 min type of places. You can find lots of them on Nguyen Thi Thap St in D7, Nguyen Phi Khanh St in D1 and Dien Bien Phu St in Binh Thanh District.

Curious though, she would not get naked and did not accept full sex, even though the guy you met on the way out said it was a 300-500-1 mil deal? Anyone else have a report from Lucky or Hello, (Mai Mai) on HG2?

JD

BigGuyVietnam
01-21-11, 05:32
Thanks for the report Big Guy,

About money, you said only one girl asked for money and it was a million. How much have you given the girls the other times you have been there? I see the ticket downstairs is 200k.

JDI usually just give them 200, 000. Sometimes I get a frown, but they always seem willing when I go back.

Cappy
01-21-11, 05:43
You're right, now I'm embarassed. I had a hard time reconciling the rate / service difference between the two.

I'm more accustomed to the rates in S. China. But this isn't China. And it's certaiinly affordable.

I had an earlier report from my opening visits to Welcome Spa and Khai Hoan. It doesn't appear to have remained up. I will try to repost.


Thanks for your report Cappy. Certainly you did not think that the 200k at the desk was for the girl and the house, did you? This is a villa in a residential area of Phu My Hung and includes 1 hour of the girl's time, a bed, a shower. The hole in the wall places where you pay 200k all done are just pull down your pants and get it done in 15-20 min type of places. You can find lots of them on Nguyen Thi Thap St in D7, Nguyen Phi Khanh St in D1 and Dien Bien Phu St in Binh Thanh District.

Curious though, she would not get naked and did not accept full sex, even though the guy you met on the way out said it was a 300-500-1 mil deal? Anyone else have a report from Lucky or Hello, (Mai Mai) on HG2?

JD

Cappy
01-21-11, 06:48
with thanks to the members who pm'ed and public thread posts.

i will share a report about my initial visits to:

1. welcome spa. very close to lucky and hello, spa. but sorry i didn't write down address. my very attractive attendant provided a decent massage. very quiet, no eye contact or smiling. at the conclusion, she requested 300, 000 for a hj. we settled on 200, 000.

i felt like she was too attractive. too full of herself. and could've had better service. the beatuful ones unfortunately are too often like this. she did a good job though.

2. khai hoan. once again good directions to this barber shop from the members to this blow and go (glow?) facility. i was led to my stall at which point my attendant helped me shed my clothes and then peeled out of hers.

the first thing she wanted to know was how i knew about them. yeah right, like i was going to tell her about isg.

the service was poor, i'm sorry to say. very perfunctory bj followed by whing that i need to come. i paid my 200, 000 ticket fee with nothing extra for service. i think i'll reserve judgement on this one. she did allow fondling but no reciprocal action.

i kept asking her for sex to which put on a cross face and yelled me no. police! the pair in the cubicle next to meet were going at it hot and heavy. so, obviously it's available, probably for establshed customers.

Cappy
01-23-11, 04:44
Lucky, Hello, and Welcome Spa aren't the only body rub shops in the Hung Gia streets district. It looks like those fortunate Korean men have many places to choose from. And I'm sure that there are even more businesses operating under deeper cover in less obvious places.

I decided to make the rounds last night and checked out these three, all within blocks of each other.

My Man, R4. 36 Hung Gia 5 St.

Yen Spa, R4 – 63 Hung Gia 5 St.

Queen Spa, R4 – 15 Hung Gia 2 St.

The quality of each was decent. I checked with each one and they all confirmed to the same 300/500/1million vnd format. Entry ticket is between 180-200, 000 vnd.

A girl whose turn it is greets you upon arrival. Or you can have a seat and you can ask to see the rest of the ladies. From their standing positions and expressions on faces, it's pretty easy to tell who is interested or not.

Lucky Spa still seems to be the busiest and the best overall value and attendant quality. Their ticket cost is the highest, but the boss offers a buy 10 get one session free pass. She lured back with a free mandarin orange. It worked. One wonders how soon before they are going to sell fixed price monthly memberships.

In addition to the 6 identified above there are a number of other legit places where the ticket is 150, 000vnd. The rooms tend to be more public. Here you get 90 minutes of foot and back massage (stones, etc) with what's usually a very cute lady. So far, I haven't been able to get any more. It sure would be nice to be able to speak a few more languages.

Alwayshard45
01-23-11, 06:26
At Khai Hoan Blow 'n Go in District 7 both the girl and you, get completely naked. The massage tables are double or triple wide so she gets up on the table with you. It's a nice feeling being completely naked rather than having your pants and underwear on down at your thighs and her having just popped her tits out and pulled her undies down as is standard on DBP and NPK shops. There are many interesting positions you can try out compared to the one where she simply stands beside the table with you on your back. Body to body, naked contact feels good. As at other Blow 'n Gos there is no fucking but she can sit on you and grind and rub.I also just gave this a try. I'm surprised I've never been to it before as I have been up and down that road and visited many of the BnG shops there. When I went there was, what seemed like, a tour bus dropping off customers to the shop. There were about 20 xe om drivers and a bunch of tourists. I pulled in, parked the bike and walked in. I was asked to wait for an available girl / stall, not sure which. After about five minutes a cute young thing came out from the back and they asked for the money up front. They quoted me $20 USD. I didn't quiet here well enough and I proceeded to give them 200k VND. When I realized they were still waiting for more money, I asked whats wrong. They said "400k please, or $20 USD, prefer USD not VND." I was real surprised. I asked why is it 400k instead of 200k like before. They said that tourists pay 400k, always. So I grabbed my money out of the guys hand, said a few choice words in Vietnamese and walked away. As I turned he asked how do I know this place and some other stuff in VNese. We ended up having a small chit-chat and he realized I wasn't apart of the motorbike entourage. Basically, if you take a xe om or taxi to his shop, it costs 400k because they have to give a percentage to the driver.

After I get through to the back, everything else went accordingly. Stripped down to nothing, got cleaned up, enjoyed wonderful views and positions. The only thing I didn't get was the body to body rub. My girl was a great performer all the way til the end and more. She was a real cutie. She also spoke really good English, I wasn't expecting that as most girls on this street know close to nothing of English. Afterward, she attempted to give me a back massage, which was not of top-notch quality, but no complaints either.

B Sahdow
01-23-11, 09:23
Hi All.

Can anyone please tell me when massage venues (DBP, NBK etc) generally close? Midnight? Earlier?

Thanks!

BS.

Cappy
01-23-11, 12:06
Thanks for post, AH45:

This may explain why, after I walked in, my girl gave me shitty service.

I arrived on my own. Could she have been told to just give the westerner a quick BJ and throw the bum out?

Maybe I need to go a few times to gain some respect.


I also just gave this a try. I'm surprised I've never been to it before as I have been up and down that road and visited many of the BnG shops there. When I went there was, what seemed like, a tour bus dropping off customers to the shop. There were about 20 xe om drivers and a bunch of tourists. I pulled in, parked the bike and walked in. I was asked to wait for an available girl / stall, not sure which. After about five minutes a cute young thing came out from the back and they asked for the money up front. They quoted me $20 USD. I didn't quiet here well enough and I proceeded to give them 200k VND. When I realized they were still waiting for more money, I asked whats wrong. They said "400k please, or $20 USD, prefer USD not VND." I was real surprised. I asked why is it 400k instead of 200k like before. They said that tourists pay 400k, always. So I grabbed my money out of the guys hand, said a few choice words in Vietnamese and walked away. As I turned he asked how do I know this place and some other stuff in VNese. We ended up having a small chit-chat and he realized I wasn't apart of the motorbike entourage. Basically, if you take a xe om or taxi to his shop, it costs 400k because they have to give a percentage to the driver.

After I get through to the back, everything else went accordingly. Stripped down to nothing, got cleaned up, enjoyed wonderful views and positions. The only thing I didn't get was the body to body rub. My girl was a great performer all the way til the end and more. She was a real cutie. She also spoke really good English, I wasn't expecting that as most girls on this street know close to nothing of English. Afterward, she attempted to give me a back massage, which was not of top-notch quality, but no complaints either.

Mik Hcmc
01-23-11, 14:49
Thanks for post, AH45:

Maybe I need to go a few times to gain some respect. Not sure about gaining respect but becoming a regular can have its benefits. Then again after a while the girl / s will get too comfortable and the service will plateau then start to drop.

Johndao
01-24-11, 01:34
Hi All.

Can anyone please tell me when massage venues (DBP, NBK etc) generally close? Midnight? Earlier?

Thanks!

BS. Much earlier than midnite! This is not BKK or the PI. They may close at 10 PM at the latest, but I would not go there after 9-9:30 or so.

JD

Johndao
01-24-11, 01:40
Thanks for post, AH45:

This may explain why, after I walked in, my girl gave me shitty service.

I arrived on my own. Could she have been told to just give the westerner a quick BJ and throw the bum out?

Maybe I need to go a few times to gain some respect. It IS only a place for a quick BJ. 15-20 mins and out the door. Fully naked CIM (usually) BBBJ. Some girls are great, some good, some so-so. What do you expect for $10?

JD

Equine
01-24-11, 19:46
I don't know if my post event can be counted, since I don't exactly know the name of the place I visited. To tell the truth, I can't remember the name!

I wanted a massage, and hailed a taxi and asked him to bring me to a massage parlor. He couldn't speak english. After trying to converse with his other friend, his friend gave him some directions and the taxi driver was bringing me to Bin Thanh district. There were lots of people going to this "Massage / Spa" house, and lots of security guards too. When queuing up for a ticket, I was given the "Super VIP" ticket for 220, 000 dong. And then up the stairs into my own room.

The room was lavish. Large, with its own steam bath and sauna. I changed and went around to play with the facilities. Although of course that wasn't what we came here for. Then came in this cute girl, which is about 6 in looks and 7 for body. She couldn't speak a single word for English, but we managed to gesture what we were here for.

In short, she showers me, cleans me, dries me, and then brings me to the table, leaving me there which so goes clean herself up. When back, proceeds to a BBBJ, and allowing me to touch her tits and finger her from below. No naked stuff no FS, she said something that I think it meant "the people from outside can look in."

Once the job was done, she gave me a good massage rub down the rest of the body, and then I tipped her 100k. She protested for more, but we got to maintain the market value baby! Just tell her "I have no idea what you are talking about!" and walk away.

On my way out, my cab driver was still there waiting for me, and he explained to be the words "Massage" is pronounced as "Xoa Bop" (Sua Bop)."SPA" is "Xiong Hoa" (Seong Hwa). So if you need just tell the driver "Sua Bop"!

B Sahdow
01-25-11, 11:54
So, my first attempt at a small punt in Vietnam. I had been doing my RTFF's and was planning a trip out to DBP later this afternoon, however tragedy struck when I was approached by a cyclo driver at Ben Thanh Market who offered massage.

Now, I know these guys are basically all crooked and will take me for anything I'm worth, so I try to control the situation. He says "pay whatever you want at the end", I know this is a trap and confirm prices are the start. He says he knows a "massa" place, and makes the BJ motion. He says this will be 200k.

Oh what a fool I am. Sometimes you just know when your thought process changes from north to south, and in VN that can be pricey.

He takes me to a place that I believe was in D7 from signs on the surrounding shops. Didn't appear to have a name sign out front, but to be fair, I had started drinking at 10am and wasn't really paying attention.

The place itself is pretty much what I would of imagined from a blow and go, more then a massage with happy ending. A dark shaded doorway. 5 attractive girls (even the one I believe was the mama was a hotty) on the ground floor. Ticket was 200k and I am led up two flights of stairs to a room with three massage tables. While the girl I thought was going to massage me starts helping me undress, a second girl comes in. It was apparently a two girl massage. To be honest, they were both hot and I had never had this before, so I rolled with it.

The first big WTF moment was when I went to take off my pants. In a massage joint, I would normally go down to my boxers. They said no and I jumped on the table still wearing pants. The massage at the start never really happened, they unbottoned my jeans and went straight for my jewels. Once that was out, one started working down stairs and the other occupied me upstairs (nipples, neck etc).

Then they drop the price. Now, I'll preface this: I know I did bad. Noone needs to tell be how bad this was, I'm aware. 1.6M VND for both girls and multiple blows. Oh crapfuckit. I counter with 1M and after what seemed like an eternity of teasing and pleading from them (jesus christ it's hard to negotiate with your jewels in someones hand) we settle on 1. 2M. I KNOW! I'm ruining the economy, I overpaid hugely and the worst part: I knew I should not have gone with the cyclo as those rides NEVER end well.

They begin and yes, it was actually one of the better blowjobs I've had. Had full access to both of them (they wern't exactly helpful ie. Moving bras, but I just dove in with it and had some fun with it.). Long blowjob followed by a truely horrible massage (I mean, I'm still wearing pants) and then another blowjob.

The only redeaming factor was the satisfaction of watching my massueses argue when the one blowing me went to finish with HJ, and misjudged the angle. A nice whack of my goop went into the hair of the one sucking on my nipples. She wasn't happy about it.

The moral of this story is to maintain thinking with you head in VN.

Hopefully my next report is more positive.

BS.

Johndao
01-26-11, 08:05
So, my first attempt at a small punt in Vietnam. I had been doing my RTFF's and was planning a trip out to DBP later this afternoon, however tragedy struck when I was approached by a cyclo driver at Ben Thanh Market who offered massage.Thanks for this hysterically funny report. It reminds me of the one by the guy who went with the girl far away to a hotel, then knew there was somebody else in the room stealing his wallet, but he didn't want to turn around because he was enjoying his massage or he did not want to interrupt them or something. That guy got a lot of satisfaction from not paying the girl or the hotel as he had no more money. He really showed them, he felt.

As one who read the Forum and knew that a sure thing, safe, easy. 200k CIM BBBJ was available to you only a short taxi ride away at Bennys, it's hard to understand why you paid 1. 4m for the same. Nothing to do with thinking down rather than up. More like not thinking at all. But then again, you were drunk in the middle of the day.

JD

Raverboy
01-26-11, 08:57
So, my first attempt at a small punt in Vietnam. I had been doing my RTFF's and was planning a trip out to DBP later this afternoon, however tragedy struck when I was approached by a cyclo driver at Ben Thanh Market who offered massage.

He takes me to a place that I believe was in D7 from signs on the surrounding shops. Didn't appear to have a name sign out front, but to be fair, I had started drinking at 10am and wasn't really paying attention. You mean a xe-om (motorbike taxi) rider. I doubt it was a cyclo That took you 8-10 km from the centre of D1 to D7 unless he had mechanized legs.

To put things further in perspective, you paid a little more than half the average monthly wages of a restaurant server to these 2 girls for your 'small punt'. In US terms, if a restaurant server makes USD 8 / hr excluding tips, thats 8 x 40 x 4 = USD 1280 a month, excluding tips. In other words, its like you paying USD 700 for a tandem BJ in the US. Try that for size, redeeming factor or not.

Mik Hcmc
01-26-11, 15:24
The moral of this story is to maintain thinking with you head in VN.

Hopefully my next report is more positive.

BS. Thanks for the delightful report, Makes a change reading normal reports, even though you know you overpaid you still decided to post up here knowing you will get flamed, I say good on ya. I appreciate your honesty.

I'm sure we've all overpaid or over indulged at some point in time, Hopefully we learn from it and move on.

I'm sure you tipped the girls extra as Tet is approaching hehehe.

Yes you have to keep your wits about you especially in VN where the attractions for mongering are more subtle than say Tld, Indo, Phils etc. Due to the secrecy of the business there are far too many unscrupulous ripoff merchants operating on the unassuming (and assuming) public.

I can't wait to read your next report

Mik Hcmc
01-28-11, 12:22
Here's a article from the online rag.

http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/Social-Isssues/208049/Massage-parlour-chain-boss-jailed.html

Camboblowshooter
01-28-11, 13:47
First thank you to Johndao for putting the location on this board. As I read some similarities to my own expieriences here let me submit a detailed report of what happended there.

I first visited the place in December, upon entry a girl walked up to me and said; ticket is 300. 000, I just ignored here walked up to the Papasan and gave him 200. 000, upon which he nodded to the girl and off we went to the back, not the cubines on the right which have big tables as described by Johndao, but back left the cubines and tables are very small. I want good service, so whenever I take a girl I tell her here is a 100. 000 tip for you, up to you, do as I ask you, give good service make me happy, the tip is yours, not good it stays with me. Never have been disappionted. The service here at Khai Hoan was tops. However the girl was EXTREMELY curious how I had found the place, so just told here I was wandering around in the area looking to rent a house and in passing her place I had just; smelled; girls were inside. She just smiled.

Last Saturday went there again, upon entry was met by 5 male hustlers who were wandering around there asking what I wanted, told them it was not there business and to fuck off, then put by ass down in the black sofa opposite the Papasan, these nice boys came standing in front of me, asking I wanted BJ, told them no I come here for foot massage, upon one of them started running to the door.

Got my ass up and gave the Papasan 200. 000, which he straight threw back at me, pointed his finger at a book where was written dollar 25, I told him no. He started shouting to me to get out. I asked him quitly what the problem was.during all of this, including the hustlers, I never raised my voice-, he again said you pay dollar 25, I told him this was not going to happen, upon a few of these bumsters came to close to me for me liking so I gently but with force pushed them off, they said Tet is coming blablablablabla, anyway I had to give in and add another 100. 000 because this situation could not continue, it would end badly, maybe for me, but sure for some of them. (at nearly 2 meter and 250 pound I am no pushover)

Service was again impeccable. Then the girl told me that there are at least a dozen other of these places in the same street with the difference they take not off their clothes like in Khai Hoan.

Went there again last Tuesday, Papasan was not there, anyway not to be seen, nor were there any hustlers except for one male; guard kind of; who was sitting there in not to clean clothes and was very kind to me, just took a girl and went to the back, straight into the cubs with the big table, again very very good service, upon leaving she just said to me give 200. 000 to her (one of the olders girls inside) , and moved my ass out of there.

So, in conclusion, clearly they are asking themselves questions where all these white foreigners are suddenly coming from, walking in their place. Let us try to stand our ground on the prices, otherwise.

Alwayshard45
01-28-11, 19:51
Last Saturday went there again, upon entry was met by 5 male hustlers who were wandering around there asking what I wanted, told them it was not there business and to fuck off, then put by ass down in the black sofa opposite the Papasan, these nice boys came standing in front of me, asking I wanted BJ, told them no I come here for foot massage, upon one of them started running to the door.

So, in conclusion, clearly they are asking themselves questions where all these white foreigners are suddenly coming from, walking in their place. Let us try to stand our ground on the prices, otherwise. As I reported earlier, I had a very similar experience a few weeks ago. When I was there there were tons of hustlers and xe om drivers around. The girl also asked me a few times, how did I know the place and who told me. I always just say,"a friend of mine told me"/"ban cua anh". Usually that shuts them right up. I'm not sure sure if these "xe om parties" that come out there are from this forum or another, or how they know of these places. BUT, to me it sounds like, those guys are all hired by the management to seek out tourists and if you look the part they will do what they can to grab a little extra money. In my experience, if they (in the past and the future) try to make me pay higher than normal. I just kindly (in vietnamese) so no thanks, because there are plenty more shops on this street. I've even grabbed my money out of that Papasan's hands in the past and made my way to the door, even with tons a "security guards" surrounding me. 100% of the time before I can complete my 4th step towards the door, they come out with apologize and escort me to the back, of course after paying the correct amount.

Tet is here, so maybe that is giving the old man an additional reason to charge higher. I wonder if he has increased prices for everyone, not just tourists.

Camboblowshooter
01-29-11, 03:45
Tet is here, so maybe that is giving the old man an additional reason to charge higher. I wonder if he has increased prices for everyone, not just tourists. [/QUOTE]No, there is no increase in price, the 100. 000 extra I just offered him to get him pull back, I simply did not want to do the effort to walk to the next one as I was after a particular girl inside the place. He did not ask for it, he wanted $25, but he took it. But if he had not accepted the 300. 000 would have taken it and walk out, for sure, that was it, no more, otherwise we spoil all pricing for each of us.

The next time I was there after this incident paid 200. 000 ticket AFTER finishing the girl, that was paid to another older (working) girl inside as the Papasan was not there, nor were there hustlers.

And for sure you can fuck them as well, if not on the premises then outside, no problem at all. And this I can tell you as a certainty.

On a side, anybody interested in forming a group? Doing our; walks; with 3 or more is so much more fun (and safety) then the lone ranger. Any suggestions / ideas?

Stoutboy
01-29-11, 06:56
Paid a visit to both these places in the past week. First off, props to those who have posted before—without you, I never would've known where to begin. First up was My Tien. Went in at about 930pm. Three girls on offer, all about the same in looks, so I just went with the girl whose turn it was—mamasan assured me she was 'very good'. Paid 100K to the house and we went to a very small back room with two tables divided by a partition. I don't know why earlier posts report of being led upstairs. I saw nothing that resembled a stairway.

My experience here was mediocre. The lady looked to be in her early 30s. As soon as we got in the room, it was all business. Not even a half-assed attempt at massage, just a quick face wash, a wipe of the nasty bits, and she was off to the races. She pulled down her top and hiked down her panties allowing me full access. Decent tits, nice long nipples. But it was obvious she was trying to finish the job as quickly as possible. I was the only person there and maybe they wanted to close up, but still. Her technique was ok, but too rushed for my liking. After the inevitable, another quick scrub and that was that. I tipped her 100K, but she tried to get more. For that level of perfunctory service? Not a chance. I walked on out into the night.

After that experience, I honestly wasn't all too keen on visiting a hot toc again. But I decided to check out Ben Ny. I arrived at about 800pm. I went inside and was immediately greeted by a petite lady, again early 30s, who appeared to have very nice curves. I gave 100K to the papasan, and she took me into the back room filled with reclined barber chairs. There were a few Vietnamese guys there as well. She then proceeded to wash my face and give a half-hearted massage. Her hands and skin felt very soft—so I took this as a good sign. After five minutes or so of this, she motioned into a small cube directly behind my chair. After closing the door and turning on the fan, she motioned for me to unbutton my shirt and hitch down my pants. For her part, she hiked up her skirt and popped out her tits. For such a slight lady, what lovely, luscious tits they were! All natural. Very small areolas. She rubbed all over me, licking all the way. I have to say, her skin smelled fabulous. This went on for several minutes. I groped her entire body as much as she would permit. She would emit these curious bark-like cries when I went too far. Did I mention her wonderful tits? I tried to initiate a titty fuck, but she would have none of it. She spent a lot of time licking my balls, which I really like, and she was quite skilled at playing around the entire shaft and head area—again another favorite of mine.

When the moment of truth finally arrived, she hunkered down and made sure to drain me of every drop. As you can probably guess, this was a vastly better experience. After clean up, some small talk, and feeling up her superb tits as much as I could, it was time to go. I gave her 100K, which she took very graciously. She did not even try to plead for more. But based on that encounter, I almost wish I had given her another 50K. She led me out into the lobby area arm-in-arm. We passed by several other quite attractive ladies, though not as young as other reports suggest. No early 20s—most appeared late 20s and older.

Bottom line: I might consider giving My Tien another try, if it were the only place in the area, but after the level of service I enjoyed at Ben Ny, they have earned my business whenever I am in the DPP area. It was no contest. I could easily see making that lady at Ben Ny a regular, and if I lived in HCMC, I probably would. I do plan to hit Ben Ny on my next trip and I hope she's still there.

MikeInBrazil
02-06-11, 17:51
I decided to stay at Vien Dong Hotel which is in district 1, near Ben Thanh Market. The reviews for the hotel online were pretty good, and the price wasn't too bad. After checkout the door man mentioned the spa to me and talked about getting a HJ in there, pretty sweet setup having a spa that stays open till 1am IN your hotel. Well after exploring the city a bit I headed back to the hotel's spa. Took the regular massage ticket which was 180k, this spa is a pretty sweet setup. You get a sauna, steamroom, hotub, and a table shower if you want. Decided to try a little bit of each, the only werid thing was when I was finished with the hot tub, one of the employees asked if I wanted to shower up. I said sure and then he lead me to the table shower room, ok normally I like table showers but when he told me to lay down I was expecting a girl to come in and do the table shower, NOPE it was HIM. Good thing he didn't scrub my bits or anything but still it was definitely a werid experience.

Once that was done, I was lead to a lounge room where you can get foot massage if you want. I decided to go straight to the massage, as I was getting lead to my room I could get a look inside each room with clients. I got to say most of the girls were pretty damn cute. The girl I pulled was sweet as hell, and had super soft skin. The massage was great, but the ending was the best I had in Vietnam, she did NOT ask for any kind of money at all, just after the deed she gave a sheet that I wrote the tip on. I know most guys on here don't like HJ's that much but I personally really enjoy them if done right, sure I rather have a BJ but HJ is right up there too. LOL

MikeInBrazil
02-07-11, 12:33
After another morning massage at my Hotel, Vien Dong. I decided to check out Ben Ny, but when I pulled up it was completely closed, unless there is some back entrance or something. I saw My Tien was open before pulling up to Ben Ny's so I decided to give that place a try. I walked in and the lady said it was 90k, then a girl followed me up. She was pretty cute, except her teeth. Once up in the room, I got about a 1 minute massage followed by her pulling down my shorts and starting a BBBJ, followed by CIM. As I was leaving, I gave the girl a tip of 100K based on the forum. The mamasan said something about it being tet and I should be tipping at least 200K. I ignored that and went on my way, thanks forum for this little find.

Mik Hcmc
02-07-11, 12:36
The mamasan said something about it being tet and I should be tipping at least 200K. I ignored that and went on my way, thanks forum for this little find.Any reason to try and rip customers off.

I had the same BS when I went to a new MP. Sick of the money grabbing and shitpoor service from 99% of the places around here.

Ozirob
02-07-11, 21:23
a BBBJ, followed by CIM. As I was leaving, I gave the girl a tip of 100K based on the forum. The mamasan said something about it being tet and I should be tipping at least 200K. I ignored that and went on my way, thanks forum for this little find.Ok, so you had a BBBJ with CIM, and you tipped $5, refused to acknowledge Tet.

Just a suggestion, assuming there is a chance you might return there. If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.

Ozirob

PolyOrchid
02-08-11, 01:34
Sick of the money grabbing and shitpoor service from 99% of the places around here.Hear, hear. Any monger coming to Vietnam for sex needs to seriously reconsider that decision. This is without a doubt the biggest hall of mirrors, unsatisfying mongering destination in Asia.

MikeInBrazil
02-08-11, 02:27
If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.

OzirobWhy should I tip more then the standard just because it is Tet? EVERYWHERE I have gone, EVERYONE has asked for more just because it was Tet.

B Sahdow
02-08-11, 03:10
Any reason to try and rip customers off.

I had the same BS when I went to a new MP. Sick of the money grabbing and shitpoor service from 99% of the places around here.While this is probably the truth, I've been a little generous with my service tips (in general, not just p4p) for tet. Ie. Leaving a 50k tip for the room cleaners. I figure, if they're missing out on the celebrations because they work in tourism / hospitality, they deserve a nice tip (obviously, the service still has to be up to snuff).

That being said, from what I'm aware, tet lasts for three days and that finished up on the weekend. Not sure why you'd have to give a tet-sized tip when it's. Not. Tet. Anymore.

B Sahdow
02-08-11, 13:39
After another morning massage at my Hotel, Vien Dong. I decided to check out Ben Ny, but when I pulled up it was completely closed, unless there is some back entrance or something.Can confirm Bennys was in fact open today.

Now, for my report on this fine establishment:

So I'm not the biggest fan of telling moto drivers exactly where I'm going, if it's for punting purposes. Conveniently, the Jade Emporor Pagoda is close to put up a plausible justification for going to that end of DPB. Call this needless parania, but the point is, crossing a busy road like DPB sucks and I'm glad that it was not for naught.

I go into Bennys and the mamasan waves me off saying "3 min come back", well, whatever I'll go have a smoke. I don't even make it to the door before I get called back. Now. There was not a word spoken in english from any service provider to me, so when asked something I could only shrug and go by what I was expecting and the retarded sign language all travelers know.

I am led by a very pretty lass to the head massage/"we'll pretend to be a legitimate venue for a minute before getting to what you and we know you're here for" area. She again starts saying something to be in Viet. I can only shrug, she tries repeating while I shrug helplessly before a very helpful Viet gentleman provides some much needed translation services."She is offering you a drink","she say because the place is busy. 120k up front". I pay, somewhat confused as earlier reports stated that all payment was after services rendered, but whatever. I'm here to see where this goes.

Aside, from vising other establisments at home and abroad, I had always previously treated brothels the same way I treat mens rooms. Under no circumstance should you communicate with another male within those walls. We all know exactly what we're all there for, and the less said the better. I don't exactly have any punting friends, and now do I really want any, but GOD DAMN. Without that elderly gentleman assisting in translation, misunderstandings could have occured.

After the pretend massage, I am lead to the private stalls. Now, on one hand I'm happy before well. I'm about to get a blowjob from a very attractive viet. I'm also part dissapointed that it's another massage bed. I had kind of hoped to be in a sitting position, ie a chair. I could go into why I'd prefer this, but that's not required for this exact report. Either way, I do find it amusing that the way the room is set up is perfect for either a) hair washing or be) a place for a women to spit and wash her mouth out after recieving a big load. Will have to look over the hair dressers at home more closely.

The servicing itself was absolutely top notch. I was tired for an overnight trip, and a little drunk after a lunch with some expats I had met over tet and to be honest I was curious to see if I would be able to cum. The token nipple sucking and ball licking always appreciated before a solid blowjob. When I was not blowing from the first roung, she kicked it into overdrive and THAR SHE BLOWS.

Cue the wipe off, pants back on, and drop 100k as I walk out the door.

This certainly is a quality establishment, and far more formalised then I had imagined from reports. Next on my agenda is the neighbouring establishment at No. 90.

Mik Hcmc
02-08-11, 15:01
Ok, so you had a BBBJ with CIM, and you tipped $5, refused to acknowledge Tet.

Just a suggestion, assuming there is a chance you might return there. If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.

OzirobTry living here for a couple yrs and see how quickly you get fed up with the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor service and over the top tip / price expectations.

You can't help but make a generalization from the experience you get here, Shit service with expectant champagne prices.

Tet is just another excuse the greedy shop owners use as a ploy to get you to part with more of your money. Ask the shop owner / whoever asks you for a Tet tip next time how much they gave their staff as a Tet bonus? Chances are it won't be as much as they are asking you.

Poly. I hear you there, VN is shit for mongering.

Mik Hcmc
02-08-11, 21:05
"She is offering you a drink","she say because the place is busy. 120k up front".Did this 120k include the drink? Ie 20k for a drink.

Due to the seemingly popularity of these B&G's I wonder before the ticket price will be increased. Wouldn't suprise me at all if the price goes up to 150k soon.

In Vung Tau most MP's are 180k / USD$10 ticket, from the massage only wearing a robe, shorts to the FSMP's.

MikeInBrazil
02-09-11, 05:57
Ben Ny is indeed open again, thank god. I think the service and looks of the girls here are wayyyyy better then My Tien. When you guys go there do you go with the girl they give you or ask for a different girl? The girl I pulled yesterday was pretty average looking, I saw a few other girls but they were busy eating. Is it rude to decline the 1st girl and ask for one you really want?

As for the service, it was 10x better then My Tien. Two things stood out though, the girl spent ALONG time cleaning down below, secondly she would stop mid BBBJ every few minutes to spit into a towel, not exactly a turn on.

D Bronze
02-09-11, 07:42
First timer report (sorry for long post).

This was last month ago, before leaving out of country. Walking north on the left side of No Trang Long, before the Tran Quy Cap intersection, around 6pm. Can't remember name or number of the hot toc place, but it was the only "uniform" place down the street, with about 4-5 girls and one guy.

Asked about a shampoo and massage and guy said it would be 70. Since this was my second time at a massage hot toc I wasn't very picky of the girl. (I had gone to another one on Su Van Hanh, but didn't know anything about the scene until after we moved away from the area and just got a standard shampoo and massage. Total miss). She was ok, but not super attractive, though she was very friendly, and always hugging. Early 20's.

Started with the shampoo in the midarea of the salon, looked like they could serve 4 customers. At the time, I was the only one. Then moved to the back area, another room, that had 4 massage tables, with curtains (again only one there).

At first, she starts massaging with my shorts on. I asked her if I could remove them, and I left briefs on. (remember. First timer). So she continues to give an ok massage climbing all over. Did allow some touching (took me a while to even get comfortable doing so). As I did, she returned the touch.

At the end, she ask if she could help me. I said how. And she replied "nhe" (soft) , intimating just a HJ. Said that was about all she could do. Of course, I said sure. She pulled out the towelettes as everyone has written about, and starts wiping my chest and ask me to lower the briefs.

She lays beside me and starts the nipple thing, and the HJ.

I didn't last very long, being that this was my first time with a "stranger." (ok you can laugh now). And then she starts wiping up, and went to wash up. I should have laid there to see if she would come back for any more, but I was done and got dressed, and she came back and sat down. I asked who I should pay, and she said either her or upfront.

I pulled out 200 (since I was going by the board max) and didn't have any change. She didn't seem like she was going to give any change, so she hugs me one last time, and says to come back and she walks me out. Sorry for maybe increasing the tip a little. I just didn't have any change (that was the only money I had on me).

You all may have better luck, being veterans or may even decide its not even worth it. Unfortunately, I probably won't be back to VN for a while. (obviously, I'm VK).

Ok, flame the newbie. (and happy tet!)

PolyOrchid
02-09-11, 11:07
Ok, flame the newbie. (and happy tet!)No reason to flame you, Mr. Newbie. Appreciate your post and glad you enjoyed.

Happy New Year.

Bespoke
02-12-11, 20:06
I had a bad experience here, as you can tell by the title. However, I thought I'd give some background for those of you who might feel differently with the same facts. At least you will have some of the details of the place. The condensed version is immediately below. More lengthly ramblings after that if you have time to waste.

Location: across the Saigon Bridge on the right (as you head out from D1 and Binh Thanh) at the corner of "duong So 2" or street number 2.

Price: 100k regular. 200k VIP. 250k VIP.

Tip: supposedly "100+"

Time: promised 60 mins but probably much much shorter than that. Reading some of the local forums people were complaining as short as 20 mins.

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Not sure why I don't just go to the tried and true places, but I guess it's that nagging curiosity that leads to bad experiences. Phung Thuy is right across the Saigon Bridge on the right at the corner of "duong So 2" or street number 2. It moved to its new location about 2 years ago I'm told by some locals.

First the good news. The VIP rooms are spacious with a bath tub, wet and dry saunas. This was the 250k VIP room. I'm not sure what the 200k VIP room was missing.

The girl at the reception's job is to try to upsell customers probably, because I lingered a bit to see what she told other customers. She keeps trying to upsell the customers by telling them that the higher priced rooms came with higher quality girls. I am always skeptical of such claims, but what the hell I need to satisfy my curiosity and went for the 250 room. Before stopping by I was told that they had different uniform for the different categories of employees, so I thought maybe there might be a segmentation by looks. The front desk girl sold a few people on the VIP rooms by telling them that "you can just tip the girl 100+). So at least the expectations were not high (it did occur to me that she was saying that to get you to buy the VIP room, prepaid, and then let the other girl nag her way up to a higher tip, but it didn't happen).

The truth is that the girls do work in separate areas (at least day at a time, but those tricky operators I'm sure move them around). They all wear the same uniform now. It's an ugly monochrome red with short shorts instead of the pretense of a skirt. I think the fake skirts at other places look better.

I was pretty disappointed at the first girl that came. Old, short, chubby and not even that attractive. I rarely change but this time I asked her to send in someone new. The new one was also not attractive, but tall, but still not a great body compared to the average VN girls riding around. She was immediately friendly, perhaps thinking that I am difficult because I rejected the first one. She tried to joke around and make small talk. I'm still disappointed but it's late and I don't feel like changing again. Plus, the time is 60 mins for the room which means the clock is ticking. More on that later.

After a quick sauna, she dries me off then bathes and shampoos me in the tub. She plays a bit with the important parts but I think really trying to make sure that everything gets cleaned well. Lights go dim, then she starts with a quick back massage. She cracks the back and neck. A few quick squeezes, the cupping slap on the back, and THAT's IT she's done with the back. FLIP. Pulls off the shorts, puts my hand on her ass and breasts to encourage the fondling while she starts licking my chest and works her way down for a BBBJ. Technique is mediocre with more hand than mouth action. She never let on that she was annoyed that I was taking a bit longer than normal. I will give her credit for continuing to work, but she increasingly used more hands. I think CIM is probably possible, but she was mostly taking her M off at that point and I was too lazy or tired to time it right. A bit gets on her face I think but no complaints. Quick clean up and she comes and sits on the table next to me.

I actually thought she would continue to finish the massage during the rest of the time, but No. I flipped back over and asked her to work on my back and shoulders and she complied for a few minutes, then goes and turns the lights on and said time was up. She was nice about it, and if I hadn't looked at the clock at the beginning I might have doubted my sense of timing. But sure enough, it had only been 40 mins. 5 min sauna. 5 min bath, max 5 min massage and 25 mins other services with cleanup. I asked her about this and she said that since I had a short sauna my massage time was over. She said I could sleep the rest of the 20 mins in the room if I wanted.

At this point I was annoyed but I didn't realize how much. I tipped her 100 which she didn't complain, perhaps it was the right amount, perhaps it was be / see she realized I was not happy. When I got to the front desk, I asked the ticket girl about the time and she said that the girls are managed by a different manager so she has nothing to do about it. Such typical VN finger pointing. But she confirmed that it is 60 mins.

I hate how when you ask for the manager whoever you ask starts to speak to you like he is the manager."What can I help you with." I then ask him if he is the manager 2 times, until he finally admits he is not and sends me to another person. That person is this ugly whale of a beoch in the "medical room." She also starts with "is there something I can help you with." Then says she is the manager of the managers. WTF knows if she is really but the white shirted guys running around seemed to look up to her.

She of course claims that you only get 45 minutes and the 15 minutes for sauna. She said I can go back in and sauna for 15 minutes if I'd like. Well this pissed me off be / see no one else said it that way so she must have just pulled it out of that really fat ass of her. I pointed out to her that I was in there for 40 minutes including the sauna and that 40 is less than 45. I guess she was too dumb to make up something that would at least support her case. Well she didn't like that I pointed out her stupidity in front of the staff-and BTW in front of a room full of customers watching TV in the relaxation room. A shouting match ensues between us. The rent-a-security boys run up and try to intimidate me to calm down. I go back into the reception area to ask the girl one more time what is the time for the massage and she again says 60 mins, to the disappointment of the ugly manager.

The bottomline is that they will probably continue to make lots of money with or without my patronage. But hopefully the better customer service places will eventually take away their business. Big big dream. I suggest you take your business elsewhere, but there is enough info here for you to make your own decisions.

Mik Hcmc
02-13-11, 06:49
I had a bad experience here, as you can tell by the title.You've pretty much summed up Vietnams mongering experience. Money first, customer happiness dosn't even come into it.

Good on you for standing up to the manager / ess and standing firm. These places will keep making money due to the locals not knowing any better. Its like you don't know what its like if you've never experienced it. Kinda like going to TLD soapie massage or even a normal thai massage compared to the lame halfassed effort you get here.

You can see how much pride and effort the locals put into their work just by looking at the houses they build, door / window frames that are not square, doors that can't open / close due to the frame not aligned, floor tiles not flat / even, door hinges put upside down and riveted in place so you can't remove the door from the hinges etc, Even the locals don't want to buy "Made in VN".

This shows in the "effort" put in by the massage girls. I suppose it may be due to the fact that their clients are so grateful for a girl to give them a bit of attention.

Though due to our curiosity chances are we will keep stumbling onto these places and in the hope of finding a gem in amongst the crap.

They didn't ask for a TET tip aswell did they? Since it was only a few days ago.

Bespoke
02-14-11, 02:38
They didn't ask for a TET tip aswell did they? Since it was only a few days ago.No, she didn't do that. In fact I think the girl in the room was somewhat contrite, but she didn't really know what to do to improve the situation. (the obvious thing would have been to keep working I guess). I had not shown much anger at that point, only a few annoyed questions.

I blame the management more for allowing it. They get paid no matter what.

It wasn't even about the mongering experience, but I thought at least I would get a decent massage out of it too. That night I think that was more important, and just happened to be near this place so I thought I could get both. Perhaps it's better to split it up into 2 separate activities.

Mik Hcmc
02-14-11, 10:24
It wasn't even about the mongering experience, but I thought at least I would get a decent massage out of it too. That night I think that was more important, and just happened to be near this place so I thought I could get both. Perhaps it's better to split it up into 2 separate activities.If you want a decent massage and are willing to travel (not sure where you stay) out to Go Vap, Opposite the Mercedes Benz / Isuzu factory theres a regular / family run type MP I've been going to for almost 2yrs.

I have one girl who massages me, Sometimes she's busy so they let me snooze in the cubicle while waiting for her. No funny stuff (appart from a few cock grabs, slight tickle here and there) but a very strong massage.

If I want to get jerked off with a crap massage then I can go to any number of MP's around. I've been to numerous MP's and yet to find one that has a good massage and ending.

This reminds me about what we say regarding cars. Performance / HP / Kw 0-100kph, Fuel Economy and Reliability. You can pick 2 but can't have all 3.

Good Massage. Good Ending. Good MP.

You can pick 2. Unless you go to TLD then you can certainly have all 3!

Alwayshard45
02-14-11, 11:09
Try living here for a couple yrs and see how quickly you get fed up with the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor service and over the top tip / price expectations.

Tet is just another excuse the greedy shop owners use as a ploy to get you to part with more of your money. Ask the shop owner / whoever asks you for a Tet tip next time how much they gave their staff as a Tet bonus? Chances are it won't be as much as they are asking you. Not sure exactly about these BnG shops, but normally a company will pay their employee 1 months salary bonus for Tet. That is with 90%+ of all domestically owned business in Vietnam. Some companies skip the 1 months bonus and give less, but usually they make it up by giving their employees more time off or 1/2 pay vacation time.

So for the girls and shop owners to ask for a little extra time, I think is in line for Tet. Of course it does get annoying after awhile, but I guess I'm just used to it by now.

Tet is only officially 3 days long, but most of the country will celebrate the new year for about 2 weeks. So even though its was a few days past the official Tet holiday, its still during the festive times.

Johndao
02-15-11, 04:00
Ok, so you had a BBBJ with CIM, and you tipped $5, refused to acknowledge Tet.

Just a suggestion, assuming there is a chance you might return there. If you had said "Chuc Mung Nam Moi" and given an extra $2 or $3 would have been appropriate IMHO, and would stand you in good stead for a return visit. Tet is a special time for Vietnam.

OzirobYeh, give some more money at Tet, sure. Then maybe on Christmas Day she'll let you fuck her in the ass instead of a BJ. Or maybe she'll give you a freebie on your birthday. Sure, maybe.

Actually I don't do any mongering for a full week before New Year's Eve (Tet) and for 10 full days after. Three weeks total. I actually don't want anybody servicing me during their holy days. It just doesn't seem right, it's not about money.

JD

Milkweed
02-16-11, 05:43
Yeh, give some more money at Tet, sure. Then maybe on Christmas Day she'll let you fuck her in the ass instead of a BJ. Or maybe she'll give you a freebie on your birthday. Sure, maybe.

Actually I don't do any mongering for a full week before New Year's Eve (Tet) and for 10 full days after. Three weeks total. I actually don't want anybody servicing me during their holy days. It just doesn't seem right, it's not about money.

JDSo John, how do you get your girls to let you fuck them in the ass? Most that I meet don't offer it.

I gave my favorite HJ girl an extra 100, 000 on Christmas eve (she is Catholic). I wasn't around for Tet. But I got her some fancy moisturizer on my travels. I think she'll like that. This girl always makes me happy. That includes her eagerly spreading her cheeks for an anal finger fuck. So I like to be nice to her. My usual tip is the standard 100, 000.

Johndao
02-16-11, 06:55
So John, how do you get your girls to let you fuck them in the ass? Most that I meet don't offer it.

I gave my favorite HJ girl an extra 100, 000 on Christmas eve (she is Catholic). I wasn't around for Tet. But I got her some fancy moisturizer on my travels. I think she'll like that. This girl always makes me happy. That includes her eagerly spreading her cheeks for an anal finger fuck. So I like to be nice to her. My usual tip is the standard 100, 000. Milkweed, read my post more carefully please.

You gave a Catholic girl an extra 100k for a HJ on Christmas Eve? I don't know what to say."That is mighty Christian of you?" I really don't know what to say or think here.

How do I get them to let me fuck them in the ass? The ones you meet don't 'offer' it? Of course they don't, why would they when you accept that? Anal is not something that is 'on offer'. This is not Bangkok, not the Eden Massage. Anal is something you take, something you do, it will never be offered.

JD

Lithgo
02-17-11, 15:37
It is safe to asume the girls get STD's from time to time. I know a few massage and bar girls and they don't seem to think it's much of a problem. They really don't seem the understand the seriousness of the different. If you explain the science of it they'll think your making it up and stick to their 'passed down and around beliefs'. The truth is they all get them, as you would expect.

Anyone who has had a long term relationship with a local Viet girl will understand what I'm talking about. First post. A big thanks to those who share info or the only places I'd know are the HBT and Vung Tau bars.

I have only been to a be&g twice. Second time was one of the ones on NPK. Pretty sure I got the ugly girl because the ones I saw on the way out were much better looking she did give me a pretty awsome BJ though. Unfortunately she gave me something else as well. Nothing serious, an itch that cleared up with a course of doxycycline. It has been enough to put me off these places for now.

Alwayshard45
02-20-11, 12:07
I went into PMH today and decided to take a look at these Korean favored salons and spa's that I have read about on the forum. Walked in, was greeted by two ladies mid 20s, not too bad looking but not stunning either. The first floor looked nice, has a big fish tank in the corner. Went upstairs for a "massage". Entry price was 180k and the structure there is of typical 200/500/1mil. Upon entering the room I was offered a shower. She got the room ready with fresh towels, lighting candles, turning on some music etc. The massage was actually pretty good, not quick either, she took her time. Flipped over, discussed our options, real easy and very friendly atmosphere. Afterwards she continued to do more massage on my back and face.

When time was up she offered another shower, so I took one. As I was showering she offered to help me clean up the oil she used on my back and hard to reach places. Haha. Overall a surprisingly nice and relaxing experience. No rush, clean facilities etc.

Talked with the girl a bit, her English is limited. There are only 2 or 3 girls working there right now as they've only been open a month. Not sure if this will continue or what the deal is with that. Could be difficult trying to book time if it gets busy. I would go back again if I am in the area.

Milkweed
02-21-11, 07:51
Milkweed, read my post more carefully please.

You gave a Catholic girl an extra 100k for a HJ on Christmas Eve? I don't know what to say."That is mighty Christian of you?" I really don't know what to say or think here.

JDI understood your post. My post was meant to offer a contrast to yours. Of course I don't expect you to say that. I think your statement was meant to be insulting and I didn't expect to be insulted for describing my experience.


Anal is something you take, something you do, it will never be offered.

JDA lot of women say no to anal. That's my experience and I think I'm not alone there.

IronSparks
02-25-11, 02:06
I have read through a lot of the threads in different areas here. Having just recently arrived in Vietnam and trying to get a feel for the layout again, I noticed that there are whole streets just devoted to one type of item. Such as tile, or curtains, ect. I was wondering if there were any place in HCMC that was our type of "Massage St". A couple years ago, I tried what I thought was Cat Toc st. On Bui Xuan. Or something like that. I was disappointed then.

Thanks in advance.

Johndao
02-26-11, 06:12
I have read through a lot of the threads in different areas here. Having just recently arrived in Vietnam and trying to get a feel for the layout again, I noticed that there are whole streets just devoted to one type of item. Such as tile, or curtains, ect. I was wondering if there were any place in HCMC that was our type of "Massage St". A couple years ago, I tried what I thought was Cat Toc st. On Bui Xuan. Or something like that. I was disappointed then.

Thanks in advance. As posted already here in the VN Forum many times:

Nguyen Phi Khanh St in D1.

Nguyen Thi Thap St in D7.

Le Van Luong St in D7.

The mid-eastern end of Dien Bien Phu St in Binh Thanh District.

Dinh Bo Linh St.

This is where you will find 'Blow Job with Cum-in-Mouth' 'Cat Tocs'. The total price is 200k Dong at all.

I assume the reason you were disappointed on Bui Thi Xuan St is because although there are numerous 'Cat Toc' places, they do not offer any sexual service.

JD

IronSparks
03-01-11, 02:46
Thanks Johndao,

Your reports have certainly provided much information. Thanks for the response. I visited a couple random Goi Dau places on Dinh Bo Linh. All I got was the girl to jump on the table with me, spend some time teasing. I had all access to touch, but was only a HJ. They said no BJ. Was this my luck of the draw or are there magic words?

I did pay 200K to the front desk each time and nothing to the girl though.

Johndao
03-01-11, 07:57
Thanks Johndao,

Your reports have certainly provided much information. Thanks for the response. I visited a couple random Goi Dau places on Dinh Bo Linh. All I got was the girl to jump on the table with me, spend some time teasing. I had all access to touch, but was only a HJ. They said no BJ. Was this my luck of the draw or are there magic words?

I did pay 200K to the front desk each time and nothing to the girl though. Go to the Forum recommended places on NPK and DBP (Ben Ny) and you will get BBBJ with CIM for 200k for sure. All the info you need is already here in the Forum. Just look and you will find exact addresses, maps, etc.

JD

Alwayshard45
03-01-11, 08:45
I checked out Hello, Spa over the weekend. The place is nice inside but the rooms are setup kind of weird. Its one room partitioned horizontally and 1 shared bathroom for each room of 2 sections. This could be uncomfortable if the place is busy (for me at least).

When I walked in there were several girls ready to go, mostly pretty good looking. I chose one and went upstairs, had a nice shower and pretty relaxing massage. After the massage when it came time to the "do you want more" deal, the girl said she didn't do anything today cause she was on the rag. She went to go get someone else who ended up being a fatty, which I never saw downstairs when I walked in. She must have been hiding in the back or in the basement. Haha.

I was pretty excited from the great massage from the previous girl, so I just went ahead with the girl that came up. Not too bad, but not my favorite either. I would definitely go back again IF only I knew I could have the first girl. Not sure if she is really being visited by her Aunt Flo or she is a typical bait-and-switch deal. More to come in a few days. Maybe.

BigGuyVietnam
03-04-11, 06:04
I checked out Hello, Spa over the weekend. The place is nice inside but the rooms are setup kind of weird. Its one room partitioned horizontally and 1 shared bathroom for each room of 2 sections. This could be uncomfortable if the place is busy (for me at least).

When I walked in there were several girls ready to go, mostly pretty good looking. I chose one and went upstairs, had a nice shower and pretty relaxing massage. After the massage when it came time to the "do you want more" deal, the girl said she didn't do anything today cause she was on the rag. She went to go get someone else who ended up being a fatty, which I never saw downstairs when I walked in. She must have been hiding in the back or in the basement. Haha.

I was pretty excited from the great massage from the previous girl, so I just went ahead with the girl that came up. Not too bad, but not my favorite either. I would definitely go back again IF only I knew I could have the first girl. Not sure if she is really being visited by her Aunt Flo or she is a typical bait-and-switch deal. More to come in a few days. Maybe. I had the same thing happen, but the girl actually showed me, so I settled on a HJ.

Raverboy
03-04-11, 08:09
I had the same thing happen, but the girl actually showed me, so I settled on a HJ.She showed you her bloody rag? Ew.

Alwayshard45
03-05-11, 11:16
She showed you her bloody rag? Ew.Yeah really, how did she "show" you? That is pretty disgusting to look at her blood rag. Or maybe she showed you a little sting coming out? Haha.

Lithgo
03-06-11, 12:13
Have been here twice, set up has been described in previous posts so I won't go over it again. First time got an ok girl with nice large boobs fairly std massage then the usual choice. Went for FS she only wanted to do mish and was a complete starfish.

Second time got a bit of a roughy. She looked OK from the angle I saw her downstairs but when I saw her close up it was not so nice. Massage again OK. But at the end there was only HJ and FS on the menu. Try as I might I couldn't get her to give a BJ . As it was the end of a pretty unsuccessful days punting (I had previously found the only 2 massage parlours in HCM where you cannot get even a HJ) , I went with the HJ. In a bit of poetic justice her dress straps fell across me and ended up pretty messy.

Lithgo
03-06-11, 12:34
After a couple of unsatisfactory sessions at Hello, I wasn't so keen on trying again. Although I like the setup as it fits my requirements to be quick, simple, discreet and available during the day. It is quite a lot more expensive than other options. Not an issue for me as I usually only punt a couple of times a month.

This time round I went for another similar establishment nearby. Lucky. Went in about midday and it looked like most of the girls were not working yet even though they say on the door they are open from 9am. Initially there was two girls available . Both OK but not fantastic, one had an awsome bubble butt and didn't look more than 20 but didn't quite press my buttons. After a bit of a wait another girl came downstairs. This one was mid-20's very petite and quite cute.

Off to the room which was quite a bit bigger than the ones at Hello, and also had an attached rather than shared bathroom. Good session, not much massage just lots of foreplay leading up the finale. Only disappointment was she didn't offer BBBJ. Only covered. FS was also available and she had a very lovely looking "chim" definately have to go back to sample that.

Gave her the std tip as mentioned here and no complaints. Another good thing with these PNH places. Prices seem standardised.

Phantom8
03-10-11, 06:10
Could someone please tell me the address for Luck spa and Hello, spa. I just arrived in HCM and would love to visit these spas.


After a couple of unsatisfactory sessions at Hello, I wasn't so keen on trying again. Although I like the setup as it fits my requirements to be quick, simple, discreet and available during the day. It is quite a lot more expensive than other options. Not an issue for me as I usually only punt a couple of times a month.

This time round I went for another similar establishment nearby. Lucky. Went in about midday and it looked like most of the girls were not working yet even though they say on the door they are open from 9am. Initially there was two girls available. Both OK but not fantastic, one had an awsome bubble butt and didn't look more than 20 but didn't quite press my buttons. After a bit of a wait another girl came downstairs. This one was mid-20's very petite and quite cute.

Off to the room which was quite a bit bigger than the ones at Hello, and also had an attached rather than shared bathroom. Good session, not much massage just lots of foreplay leading up the finale. Only disappointment was she didn't offer BBBJ. Only covered. FS was also available and she had a very lovely looking "chim" definately have to go back to sample that.

Gave her the std tip as mentioned here and no complaints. Another good thing with these PNH places. Prices seem standardised.

Loverboat
03-10-11, 10:01
unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended) , walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.

then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf?" but didn't say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.

after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.hi bro, where exactly is this place in d1?

Loverboat
03-10-11, 12:35
It's my first experience at Benny's and my first at a Hot Toc joints and I must say the experience is good! The lady who was her turn who served my, in her mid twenties, good attitude, took her time to give me a facial clean up and some so-call "massage" before we proceed to the deed. Well its nothing exceptional to shout for but I find that she is not the rushy pushy type and even offered a 2nd round as I didn't last too long in the first. Paid my dues in standards and left the place happy.

Thank you for the recommendation here bros.

Camboblowshooter
03-10-11, 19:36
Hi bro, where exactly is this place in D1?I left Saigon today and don't believe one word of this story. Went to the infamous John Dao his shop again yesterday.and the week before, no problems there with the papasan for more then 200. 000 ticket. Good service. Thanks again John for the location, just for the info, the motos start to know me a bit now where I am going from district one to district 7 and price go and come is now 40. 000, (60. 000 before)

Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.

And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal.

Alwayshard45
03-11-11, 09:56
I left Saigon today and don't believe one word of this story.

And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal. Not quiet sure what you are referring too here. You don't believe your own story or something someone else posted?

Muse Fan
03-11-11, 10:57
Not quiet sure what you are referring too here. You don't believe your own story or something someone else posted?I was also trying to figure out the same thing.

I think he meant to not believe what Alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. I base that off of his bad experience with Cambo refers to in his post.

Simply put, I think Cambo says not to believe AH's post because he just doesn't see that happening.

PLEASE NOTE: This is just what I gathered from reading and I'm not necessarilly saying that's exactly what Cambo meant. I could be completely wrong.

Alwayshard45
03-11-11, 11:11
I decided to give Hello, Spa a second chance even though there have been several posts about unsatisfactory visits. Got a great looking girl, early 20s, firm body and nice large tits. The girl is from is from the mountains but has very nice light skin. The massage was above standard, she has great strength and yet a nice soft touch as well. Afterwards, was asked if I wanted to full service and I agreed. But then she said we had to move to another room upstairs. I thought it was a bit odd, but maybe thats done because the room I was currently in is a shared room. But the after going upstairs the room as also another shared room. Not sure why the switch. Anyways, excellent body and skills, but no BJ was available. A little disappointed about that.

At these spots it seems impossible to get a BJ. Its either all or nothing. Not sure what the deal is, I guess they just want to ensure getting the larger tip rather than take less.

Overall nice experience, would see her specifically again. About the place in general. The girls there mostly seem to be older, like 30s. Some were ok and some other not my cup of tea. There are a few diamonds in the rough though, like the one that I had. I didn't have my camera so no pics. Sorry guys.

Camboblowshooter
03-11-11, 11:17
i was also trying to figure out the same thing.

i think he meant to not believe what alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. i base that off of his bad experience with cambo refers to in his post.

simply put, i think cambo says not to believe ah's post because he just doesn't see that happening.

please note: this is just what i gathered from reading and i'm not necessarilly saying that's exactly what cambo meant. i could be completely wrong.quote originally posted by alwayshard45 view post.

unusual but delightful experience today. i was in the upper d1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the bngs on npk. everything started out normally, came into the shop (no pun intended) , walked upstairs and went through the usual motions. the girl however, after getting the necessary wet-wipes, completely undressed. keep in mind i have never seen this girl before. she cleaned me up and started with some foreplay, standard stuff, she kept wanting to do more foreplay. i was playing with her clit for quiet some time and she then laid next to me while i fingered her and sucked on her huge tits. we probably were there for about 20 minutes, as she must of been having a nice time and didn't want to stop. several other customers had come and gone.

then the crazy comes. i peeked up for a moment as i felt a shadow or presence over me and noticed two other girls standing there watching. quiet a surprise. not sure why, but it felt a little embarrassing. i have seen one of the girls before but that was a few months ago. at that time i thought there was nothing special so i have never bothered to ask for her again. the two girls started laughing and my girl and i were kinda like "wtf?" but didn't say anything. they started to ask me questions like how am i doing and how much time do i have. finally they came out with it and asked if i wanted them to join the fun. i was quiet surprised at the offer. we all talked about it for awhile (never talked about money). we moved upstairs to a different room that was empty and locked the door. i ended up staying there for almost 2 hours with all 3 of them.

after all the fun was finished and it was time to go, i asked how much they wanted. i really didn't care, i had a good time, but i was expecting some astronomical amount. they replied with "anything is fine". two of the girls left and didn't even stay around for their tip. their attitude was just so casual, as if money didn't matter. it was quiet strange, but nice to see. i got their info and i will definitely go back again to see these girls, when i have enough energy.

this is actually the story i was referring to, it is contradictory.totally- to over six years experience in saigon. its mostly the same crap all the time all kinds of fake silly reason to get; tips; , first and foremost it is; no salary; . blablablabla, and then a story like this comes, where hoars suddenly don't want money! in vietnam!

you already have been asked by another member to pricesely submit.exactly- the location of this place where these extraordinary things happened to you. as i will be back in saigon within the next three weeks, i would love to check it out, so please let the board know, and when i was wrong in my remarks.after finding this out on the spot whenever you submit the location- i will be the first to do the right thing here. believe me.

if i had not have to be in saigon for particular reasons, would never ever go there, it is a fucking stinking rat hole, because i am sick and tired of the same old crap wherever you enter there, is it for sex, foot massage, too have your arse wiped or whatever, its almost always trouble for money. most can not stick to what they agree upon.

but anyway, now we now this all is not true, just read alwayshard 45 his report. whether you want to believe it is up to you. the board is not here to put eachother down but to help one another. so come with this location alwayshard.

Alwayshard45
03-11-11, 11:32
I was also trying to figure out the same thing.

I think he meant to not believe what Alwayshard said about the 2 gals looking as if they weren't interested in the tip. I base that off of his bad experience with Cambo refers to in his post.

Simply put, I think Cambo says not to believe AH's post because he just doesn't see that happening.
. After I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.

And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal. I also thought the same thing as to what he was referring to, but I wasn't sure. Didn't want to jump to conclusions. Anyways, if you refer to any of my posts, everything I have written about has been factual and not exaggerated. If you don't believe that's fine with me.

I also want to make it clear, I didn't walk out of there without tipping. I did leave a tip for all participants, all I stated was that only one of the girls stuck around to receive the tip for the group. They all share it. If you give 100k total for 5 girls when you walk out. They will divide it up 20k each. Of course you couldn't walk away with such a small amount. Tips at these places can be given to the girls directly or to the mamasan who in turn will pay out to the girls. So for the girls to walkaway without receiving their tip directly from me is not unusual. What is unusual is their general attitude towards the amount of the tip. They were very casual, no negotiation or asking for an absurd amount of money.

Cambo: Sorry to hear about your bad experience and getting kicked in the back. Nobody deserves that, but a general rule of thumb in VN is that your tip for standard service at the massage places without extras is the price of the entry fee. 200k ticket + 200k tip. I believe thats standard, but I could be wrong. Better luck to you in the future.

Muse Fan
03-12-11, 00:55
Cambo: Sorry to hear about your bad experience and getting kicked in the back. Nobody deserves that, but a general rule of thumb in VN is that your tip for standard service at the massage places without extras is the price of the entry fee. 200k ticket + 200k tip. I believe thats standard, but I could be wrong. Better luck to you in the future.I've been reading the vietnam threads a lot lately because I plan on moving there by the end of March. I have every intention of visiting places and posting as much info as possible. Of course, being the new guy on the block that I'm going to be, please bear with me because I might begin with posts from places already covered (benny's, my tien, etc.) , but that's because I want to get my feet wet first (and dick) in places where I might know what to expect. You know. Baby steps.

Cambo: sucks to get kicked, by ANYONE. Totally uncalled for. I hope that didn't happen to you at Benny's. Could you post exactly what place it was? I don't want to show up and get kicked on the way out. If you 'did' mention it, I didn't catch it.

Alwayshard45
03-12-11, 06:43
Unusual but delightful experience today. I was in the upper D1 area today and decided to swing by on the of the BnGs on NPK...
Yes, it is a different shop. Actually, is the shop RIGHT next door to the place I went to before and was shunned from. haha. It's like night and day between these two places for me.I gave the area of the location on NPK. There are 3 shops on this street that offer this type of service, well actually 2 because one of them is actually just a HJ-only type of place for some reason. Well from what I've experienced at least. As far as the exact number of the shop, I don't know, I haven't been there since my last report which was last year. What I can say is that when you drive down NPK from Dinh Tien Hoang, you will come to a T-intersection (there is no stop light or sign). At this point on the street on the right hand side you will see the 3 shops as described earlier. From my earlier post you will see that its the shop on the LEFT hand side of the 3 shops.


. To over six years experience in Saigon.

You already have been asked by another member to pricesely submit. Exactly- the location of this place where these extraordinary things happened to you.

But anyway, now we now this all is not true, just read alwayshard 45 his report. Whether you want to believe it is up to you. The board is not here to put each other down but to help one another. So come with this location Alwayshard. I believe I was only asked 1 time to provide more information as to where this location was, by JD, and I responded with adequate information. He had no complaints to the description of the location.

If you've been here six years, how is it that you don't understand giving a girl at a massage place 50, 000vnd for an hour foot massage is not acceptable. There is a standard fee for services. The tip is the equivalent of the entry fee. Yes, you CAN get away with a LITTLE bit less, like give 150k tip if the house fee is 200k, but giving a girl 50, 000 with an entry fee of 150, 000 is generally not acceptable.


Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.

And you want the members of this board to believe your rediculous story? In Vietnam, where they are all soooo sick for money? Not in 1000 years from now pal. I find it harder to believe that a girl, probably 40 kgs would kick you in the back over a tip. But then again you did only offer her $2. 40 USD for an hour of her time. I can see her being angry and maybe saying bad things in VNese, but I don't understand why she would kick you. Unless you had promised her a certain amount and then was going back on your word.

You say you seem to always have troubles in VN over money because they are all so money-crazed. Let me say this, I've been in VN for much longer than most people here, and in all my time I've had very little major problems over money in VN. Yes a few here and there and over small amounts. But in general, I don't have problems here. You have the right to your own opinion, believe or not, the other members who have been active in this forum for longer than January can vouch for the legitimacy of my reports. I try to be a contributing member of this forum and allow others to enjoy the same good experiences as me as well avoid the I've had problems.

Good luck to you when you arrive in Vietnam.

Mik Hcmc
03-12-11, 11:56
Just to counter the report, had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000 bla bla bla, told her this was not going to happen and just paid her the 150. 000, after I turned and was straightforward kicked in the back. Believe it or not, as the massage girl was some 80 kilos lighter then myself, decided not to hit her, but.Geez, how much of a Cheap Charlie can you be? Your food / drink bill when you go out is probably more than what most locals earn in 1 month.

Massages are already cheap here, these girls work very hard for their money, You should try massaging someone for any more than 10min's and see how tired your hands get. Just because she didn't do the 5 knuckle shuffle on your old fella doesn't mean you should be insulting her with your tip. She refused the tip because it was insulting, Same way you would refuse being underpaid from a client / customer.

With bull5hit like that tip your paying, she should have kicked you in the nuts.

Crocodilexp
03-12-11, 18:40
had a foot massage yesterday, ticket 150. 000, was good, tipped the girl 50. 000 which she immediately pushed back in my hand, gave me a big smile and followed me downstairs, oh boy, I knew what was going to come. The cashier; ohh, she no salary here, you have to tipp per 100. 000For the reference, I had a 90 min foot massage for 60k ticket + 80k tip in HCMC in D5. That's what they asked for. At Pham Ngu Lao, they advertise 1h for about $7 (140k) , so outside in non-tourist areas it should be less. Therefore. 250k for a foot massage is way out of line (even 200k is quite generous). In Thailand it's 200 baht (140k dong) , and living costs are much higher.

Needless to say, Vietnamese are so blatantly out for money (for minimum service) that I can understand Cambo swinging the pendulum the other way this time. If this were Thailand or Laos, I'd be up in arms against underpaying, since they honestly try to please and usually don't fuss too much about tips (although it means to them just as much as it is for the Viets).

Kick in the back is completely unwarranted. Post the name of the place, so people can avoid it.

Crocodilexp
03-12-11, 18:47
Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).

Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.

Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?

Finaly, in the third place, I was quoted 250k, but when I started walking away, they called me back and accepted 200k. The girl was super pretty, but the place upstairs was so damn dark I couldn't see the massage table let alone her face. Why, oh, why do the Viets always turn an event that could be a memorable moment of joy into a worst-we-can-come-up-with sperm letoff? It's *same* work for the girl and would take the same time if they actually made the customer somewhat comfortable and unconstrained by stupid rules. Does the darkness and pants-around-ankles make it legal or what?

The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less".

Alwayshard45
03-13-11, 08:55
For the reference, I had a 90 min foot massage for 60k ticket + 80k tip in HCMC in D5. That's what they asked for. At Pham Ngu Lao, they advertise 1h for about $7 (140k) , so outside in non-tourist areas it should be less. Therefore. 250k for a foot massage is way out of line (even 200k is quite generous). In Thailand it's 200 baht (140k dong) , and living costs are much higher.Again the rule of thumb in Vietnam, for everyone not just tourists and expats, is that the tip for such services as massage, haircuts (hot toc. Legit places) , BnGs, nail maintenance, etc. The tip is equal to the house fee. You go to the beauty salons on Bui Thi Xuan and get a haircut, shampoo, and massage. The house fee would be about 150-200k. The girl is EXPECTING that as a tip, weather you are a local or a tourist. If you don't want to tip that much, go to a regular barber for 15, 000vnd, get your ears lowered and the tip is the same again. So 30k VND total. Of course I don't think anyone should be physically assaulted for under tipping, especially if someone just didn't know. But at the same time, the people here do work hard for their money and are on limited incomes.


Needless to say, Vietnamese are so blatantly out for money (for minimum service) that I can understand Cambo swinging the pendulum the other way this time. If this were Thailand or Laos, I'd be up in arms against underpaying, since they honestly try to please and usually don't fuss too much about tips (although it means to them just as much as it is for the Viets).For a lot of the guys here I understand Vietnam is just a travel spot while in Asia. But let me tell you guys something. Learning even just a little bit of the language weather you are just visiting or living here, will increase your happiness 7-fold. I'm fairly fluent in the language, reading / writing / speaking / listening, and since I've improved my language skills, I can tell you from personal experience that my experiences in VN have become more pleasant and with less confusion, especially in regards to money.


Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).

Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.

Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?

The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less". If one place on DBP is raising the price, then they will all be doing it. Sounds like they are increasing the price based on the current raise in inflation. Sucks for those living here and getting paid in VND instead of USD / EUR. I haven't been out to DBP's BnGs for a while so I couldn't tell you if that is the standard price now or not, but sounds like it is.

Crocodilexp
03-13-11, 10:23
Again the rule of thumb in Vietnam, for everyone not just tourists and expats, is that the tip for such services as massage, haircuts (hot toc. Legit places) , BnGs, nail maintenance, etc. The tip is equal to the house fee.

Thank you for clarifying. This is completely unexpected and peculiar to Vietnam. I haven't heard of such practice (mandatory tip = service fee) anywhere else. I thought the HotToc extra BJ fee (the 100k tip) was because the ticket only covers the massage and not sexual services (similar to Thailand where oil massage is 300 baht, and special services are on top of that). For the regular massage or a haircut, I thought no tip was required (but that 20-50k was appreciated).

Oddly, my close Vietnamese female friend (middle class, no connection to tourist industry) pays zero in tips in any situation (restaurants, taxis, hotel etc.). First time I asked there about tips, she literally said "Tip? What does that word mean?" (BTW, what's the Vietnamese word for it?). Of course, she doesn't visit sex establishments.

I once had a haircut for 20k (normal barber, a guy) and he didn't show in any way he was expecting a tip. Also, on two occasions I had a hot toc BJ for 150-160k (paid in advance to the girl directly once, to mamasan the other time). Afterward both times a girl went away quickly and didn't wait around for any extra money (let alone ask). WTF is going on?

AH45 certainly knows much more about Vietnam than I do. However, it would still be interesting to hear other opinions from old hands on the tipping issue. Is it really mandatory to tip same amount as service and when?

Learning the local language always helps, that's good advice. But Vietnamese is so damn ambiguous and they're not particularly patient. Frankly, I gave up when they gave me fish instead of chicken. English is safer for me.

Alwayshard45
03-13-11, 11:26
. I thought the HotToc extra BJ fee (the 100k tip) was because the ticket only covers the massage and not sexual services. For the regular massage or a haircut, I thought no tip was required (but that 20-50k was appreciated).

Oddly, my close Vietnamese female friend (middle class, no connection to tourist industry) pays zero in tips in any situation (restaurants, taxis, hotel etc.). First time I asked there about tips, she literally said "Tip? What does that word mean?" (BTW, what's the Vietnamese word for it?). Of course, she doesn't visit sex establishments.

Also, on two occasions I had a hot toc BJ for 150-160k (paid in advance to the girl directly once, to mamasan the other time). Afterward both times a girl went away quickly and didn't wait around for any extra money (let alone ask). WTF is going on. At the BnGs, the price for entry is 100k and the other 100k is for the girl for doing whatever it is she did for you. Even if you just give 200k to the house, the girl will get her cut at some point. (I have no idea when, assumable the same day).

For the massage and haircut tips, it depends on where you go. If its the barber outside on the street, then of course no tip is required or expected. However, if you go into a beauty salon the tip for the barber is not expected but greatly appriciated. Tip depends on the price of the haircut, but 20-50k is good enough. However at the Beauty salon parlors with hot girls in short skirts / dresses the tips that I was referring to were to go to the girl who helped you, not the barber. Those girls expect 150-200k VND.

As far as other times to tip. Taxi's no you are not required to leave a tip, but leaving small change (a few thousands) is the general norm. Example, the fair is 47, 000 vnd, leaving 50, 000 VND. However, if you have a driver for a long period of time or you ask them to wait for you for an extended period of time, then yes a tip is expected. Hotels, never tip. Restaurants. You're not required, and never expected to leave a tip when you're eating food on the street or small store front type of restaurant. However, the "Nha Hang Hai San" (expensive seafood places) , or restaurants with girls running around in shorts skirts, you are expected to leave a small tip. Around 5% is acceptable. Now days at the larger chain or western restaruants they charge you the 5% gratuity in the bill when you get it, even if you're going alone. Like how its done in the US for larger parties of 8 or more people. Example, Hard Rock Cafe.

Other services such as motorbike repair, if its minor and done in just a few hours or less, no tip is expected. However, if it takes a couple of days or heavy work to be done a tip ranging from 20k-100k is a good idea. Especially if you are living here because you will most likely need to return in the future for something and the mechanic is your bike's best friend. Haha.

Like I stated earlier, the girls don't wait around because they get the money from the mamasan later. No need to collect from you. They go back and clean up and continue eating their lunch or whatever.

Maybe I'm just an idiot and paying too much for things I shouldn't. I would have no idea. But this what I've come up with over the years through my various Vietnamese friends. Its been a long process. I remember when I first came here I was tipping the cabbie like a dollar (15, 000 vnd) for each fare and same to the motorbike parking guys even though the parking was free. Haha.

MutantChicken
03-13-11, 18:40
Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).

Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.

Second place, same story. 150k + 100 tip. I did this too a month previously for 200k. Did they really increase the prices for everyone, or are they just trying it on?

Finaly, in the third place, I was quoted 250k, but when I started walking away, they called me back and accepted 200k. The girl was super pretty, but the place upstairs was so damn dark I couldn't see the massage table let alone her face. Why, oh, why do the Viets always turn an event that could be a memorable moment of joy into a worst-we-can-come-up-with sperm letoff? It's *same* work for the girl and would take the same time if they actually made the customer somewhat comfortable and unconstrained by stupid rules. Does the darkness and pants-around-ankles make it legal or what?

The feeling I get from the Viet scene is increasingly "it's cheap, but no matter how little you pay, they'll make every effort to deliver far less".I'm afraid this is what happens when too many foreigners go to a place from what I'm told those places on dbp also are frequneted by local men and the price there is still 200k, just as how I went to the nude bng in d7, that was spoken about here the owner there had the gall to tell me that the price is now 300k for foreigners and 200k for locals after being told that there was a overall price increase since tet but I disputed that since I told them my local friends was charge 200k just the other day. I'm viet kieu and was silly enuff to speak english with another vk firned so that serves me right. Over all I would suggest a boycott of all dual pricing establishments as tehre are planty that offer similar service for 200k or less

Kodanana
03-14-11, 03:55
Recently I've been to the few Hot Toc places at DBP (Dien Bien Phu).

Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused.Benny was asking 120K entry fee + 100K tips as usual last week, this applied for Vnmese, so I guest they getting from you the extra DONG but if you're insist on 120K, they will have to accept, drinks also remain at 20K.

Johndao
03-14-11, 05:18
Thank you for clarifying. This is completely unexpected and peculiar to Vietnam. I haven't heard of such practice (mandatory tip = service fee) anywhere else. I thought the HotToc extra BJ fee (the 100k tip) was because the ticket only covers the massage and not sexual services (similar to Thailand where oil massage is 300 baht, and special services are on top of that). For the regular massage or a haircut, I thought no tip was required (but that 20-50k was appreciated).

AH45 certainly knows much more about Vietnam than I do. However, it would still be interesting to hear other opinions from old hands on the tipping issue. Is it really mandatory to tip same amount as service and when? I don't agree at all that the tip should be equal to the service as a general or rule of thumb. There are cases where the tip is, or appears the same or about as same as the service, but this is more by coincidence than any rule or standard.

For example, going for a haircut, no tip is expected although it may be nice to give 10k Dong to the washer and or cutter in some places. No tip is necessary for taxi service although a few thousand Dong to round out the fare is ok. Same with restaurants.

Regarding the incident at hand, IMO (no humble) 150k Dong for a foot massage is a rip-off. At those rates managers must or should be paying staff. Foot massage is very low overhead. They need only a small room, chairs hard next to one another, no privacy needed, usually no upstairs. For the workers the work is clean (feet washed) and safe with little chance of disease and low to 0 disgust factor. Basically any 150k foot massage place is just a tourist rip-off joint and the staff at that place proved it by their actions.

Most Blow and Go's charge 200k nowadays and many figure this is 100k and 100k so maybe that's where the idea of this rule or standard comes from. The first times I went to these places it was 30k for the house and 50k to the girl (1999). This moved to 40k and 60k for 100k even by 2001. In 2005 it was 70k for the house and 80k for the girl for 150k total. Only recently have places been asking a flat 200k including all. At brothels it is 100k for the room and 500k for the girl for FS.

Many non-sex massage places charge $15 or $20 or more for massage (male and female) is spa-like surroundings. Certainly it is not necessary to tip an equal amount.

JD

Don1010ho
03-14-11, 17:03
I totally agree with you Johndao about tipping. I went to My Tien Benny last December, one charged 90KVND, and the other charged 100KVND, my average tips was 200KVND to my girls. But there was one girl, I tips her 300K VND each time I with her, she was special to me, because she came from the same town where I was born years ago, she still known my family named from that town through her parents fairy tail story. I even asked her to go home with me, but she can't because she has no days off, off course I did not tell her who I am, just said I have been to that town with a friend some time ago. I still learning a lots from you Johndao.


I don't agree at all that the tip should be equal to the service as a general or rule of thumb. There are cases where the tip is, or appears the same or about as same as the service, but this is more by coincidence than any rule or standard.

For example, going for a haircut, no tip is expected although it may be nice to give 10k Dong to the washer and or cutter in some places. No tip is necessary for taxi service although a few thousand Dong to round out the fare is ok. Same with restaurants.

Regarding the incident at hand, IMO (no humble) 150k Dong for a foot massage is a rip-off. At those rates managers must or should be paying staff. Foot massage is very low overhead. They need only a small room, chairs hard next to one another, no privacy needed, usually no upstairs. For the workers the work is clean (feet washed) and safe with little chance of disease and low to 0 disgust factor. Basically any 150k foot massage place is just a tourist rip-off joint and the staff at that place proved it by their actions.

Most Blow and Go's charge 200k nowadays and many figure this is 100k and 100k so maybe that's where the idea of this rule or standard comes from. The first times I went to these places it was 30k for the house and 50k to the girl (1999). This moved to 40k and 60k for 100k even by 2001. In 2005 it was 70k for the house and 80k for the girl for 150k total. Only recently have places been asking a flat 200k including all. At brothels it is 100k for the room and 500k for the girl for FS.

Many non-sex massage places charge $15 or $20 or more for massage (male and female) is spa-like surroundings. Certainly it is not necessary to tip an equal amount.

JD

Bespoke
03-19-11, 04:53
I agree with JD that it doesn't have to be equal.

However, regarding the haircut places, it depends. At most of the nicer haircut places (like on Hai Ba Trung) that don't have the hot girls sitting outside (like Le Duyen) , the hairwash girls make a minimal salary of 1mm / mo and rely mostly on tips. These places are low volumes most of the times so they don't get that many tours, sometimes they could go for a day without a single tour. They're expected to help out in lots of other services while the hairstylist works, but may or may not get a tip as a result. The ones I know tell me that women use the most expensive, time consuming services (color, perm, extensions) but tip the least. These women will often skip out on tipping the assistants if the girls are busy with another customer at the time of checkout, even if those girls had spent 4-6 hrs working. And these girls work 7 days a week from 9 to 8 usually.

I often ask the cute ones why they don't work somewhere that they basically get paid more for looking good, and it's often due to familiarity with the current place, or be / see their friends work there. Then there is also the fear of the unknown, be / see most of them mistakenly assume places like Le Duyen are brothels and worry about their reputation. What these poor girls don't realize is that a lot of people already think bad of all hairwashers, so they're getting the bad rap w / out the benefits of better tips. Their typical tips are 50-100k, with the price of the hairwash (60-90mins) 100-120k.

And be / see they are good looking, they can't see themselves working at a higher volume but step down in class haircut place (any of the thousands of legit places around). Those places will pay 3mm / mo salary, but the girls typically get 10-20k in tips each time. But they have to work harder and usually go several tours a day, doubling their salary to 6mm. The price of hairwash at these places is only 30-60k, which makes it easier for customers to tip vs the expensive places.

So I guess it's partly the fault of the girls for not choosing a different place to work, but if you do go into those places, keep in mind what the norms are there.


I don't agree at all that the tip should be equal to the service as a general or rule of thumb. There are cases where the tip is, or appears the same or about as same as the service, but this is more by coincidence than any rule or standard.

For example, going for a haircut, no tip is expected although it may be nice to give 10k Dong to the washer and or cutter in some places. No tip is necessary for taxi service although a few thousand Dong to round out the fare is ok. Same with restaurants.

Regarding the incident at hand, IMO (no humble) 150k Dong for a foot massage is a rip-off. At those rates managers must or should be paying staff. Foot massage is very low overhead. They need only a small room, chairs hard next to one another, no privacy needed, usually no upstairs. For the workers the work is clean (feet washed) and safe with little chance of disease and low to 0 disgust factor. Basically any 150k foot massage place is just a tourist rip-off joint and the staff at that place proved it by their actions.

JD

Flipp
03-28-11, 17:50
First post here.

Went pass by DBP couple times this week. But haven't got the chance to go inside the B&G place in DBP.

Any suggestion which girl should I look for at Benny? Not really into big breast. LOL.

Also, did anyone went to Festival recently? Seems like the last report been a while already.

Tiger 888
03-29-11, 03:25
...Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie, and were adamant on the price. Having done the same earlier for 200k total, and knowing the service would be no better I refused...I went there yesterday and paid 120k to the house. If you ask, it may be more.

Nutty Smith
03-29-11, 17:43
Cruised through NPK a few days ago. Around 9pm. Very quiet. A guy on the street pulled me in."$20 US for massage?". I offered 200k VND and off we go into the back. Several girls lounging around and one looks particularly good to me. I nod to her and off we go upstairs to a large empty room set up with massage tables each with a hair washing basin."Phuong" picks the table at the far end of the room and draws a curtain. No boom boom! She says most emphatically. A thorough cleaning with baby wipes and the massage begins. Nice and slow, bra up, panties off took my hand and started riding my thumb. Highly enjoyable. Will repeat.

NS

Milkweed
03-30-11, 10:40
Cruised through NPK a few days ago. Around 9pm. Very quiet. A guy on the street pulled me in."$20 US for massage?". I offered 200k VND and off we go into the back. Several girls lounging around and one looks particularly good to me. I nod to her and off we go upstairs to a large empty room set up with massage tables each with a hair washing basin."Phuong" picks the table at the far end of the room and draws a curtain. No boom boom! She says most emphatically. A thorough cleaning with baby wipes and the massage begins. Nice and slow, bra up, panties off took my hand and started riding my thumb. Highly enjoyable. Will repeat.

NSDid the 200, 000 include the tip? I usually pay 100, 000 for the ticket and 100, 000 to the girl on NPK.

Flipp
03-31-11, 16:47
Just went to Benny.

Still the same price. 220k including tips. Even though the gasoline just went up yesterday. LOL.

Well, not the best blow job I ever had. The girl I pick have small breast. Well I'm not really into big one.

Not really the best service anyway. Her name I think is chien or ching or something. Don't pick that girl. Trust me.

She's short, skinny and probably around 24-27 years old.

Well, not my lucky day it seems.

Actually I went to hot toc place next door also, forget the name. May tien, is it? The girl is so old. And they have only 3 girls. So I went back to benny, and the girl that suppose to be my reserved gone already. Someone took her, and there's another girl I like, but she's been taken.

I'll try another time. But it still quite worth it. 10$ for blow job. Where else you can get it.

Thanks for the tips in this forum anyway.

Cheers

Nutty Smith
03-31-11, 22:22
Did the 200, 000 include the tip? I usually pay 100, 000 for the ticket and 100, 000 to the girl on NPK.Yes. 200k for everything. 100 entry + 100tip. Seems fair.

Tio Rajo
04-01-11, 19:14
This was a few days ago. It looks like the landlord is renovating the building. I saw the mamasan from Thanh out front in the street and she said they had relocated to the hot toc next door. Something Tam (pink and white sign).

I had gone to this one when it first opened a few months back, but never found it as comfortable as Thanh. Now there's not a lot of choice. I've been a few times since and all the regular girls are there. The layout is three tables to a room and they have several rooms.

Here's a new wrinkle. They have a "VIP" room but it's an extra 100k, making it 200k to the house and 100k to the girl. Okay, I tried it once. The main thing this offers is privacy. Walls instead of curtains. It's more spacious, too. Great for a more energetic session.

My pick of the litter is Huong. She has good skill and a degree of enthusiasm not found in many of the others. She can take things fairly deep and really knows how to give Junior a good workout.

Carl Raze
04-26-11, 14:40
So I just returned to Vietnam a few days ago. Today I went to the place on NPK next door to the barber shop that closed down and got the usual. On my way out I was expecting to pay 200VND without much hassle but they pushed and pushed for 300VND. I know the local currency is significantly weeker so not wanting to be the ignorant foreigner who gets in a fight because he doesn't know what's going on, I caved. So anyway, if I go back, what is the right price? 300 is steep, as it is a 50% increase.

FYI I have RTFF. I am wondering if anything has changed recently and I don't want to help drive up the price for foreigners. I'd appreciate an answer from someone like Johndao who knows what he's talking about as opposed to someone who just quotes a price from an earlier post.

Thanks guys!

Carl Raze
04-26-11, 15:08
One thing to add. I assumed I did not have the VIP. I read about this earlier and I told the girl "không VIP" when I got to the room. The room I had was 3 walls and a curtain, there wasn't much room inside the cubicle (about the same as the curtained off area at the old place) and there were 2 or 3 cubicles to a room.

Sa Cat 0537
04-26-11, 18:05
Bennys asked for 150k ticket + 100 tip for the quick blowie.Visited last week. 120k entry + 100k tip as a foreigner.

She also asked another 10k for water bottle.

Carl Raze
04-27-11, 18:26
Appreciate your response. Thanks!

Johndao
04-28-11, 01:17
So I just returned to Vietnam a few days ago. Today I went to the place on NPK next door to the barber shop that closed down and got the usual. On my way out I was expecting to pay 200VND without much hassle but they pushed and pushed for 300VND. I know the local currency is significantly weeker so not wanting to be the ignorant foreigner who gets in a fight because he doesn't know what's going on, I caved. So anyway, if I go back, what is the right price? 300 is steep, as it is a 50% increase.

FYI I have RTFF. I am wondering if anything has changed recently and I don't want to help drive up the price for foreigners. I'd appreciate an answer from someone like Johndao who knows what he's talking about as opposed to someone who just quotes a price from an earlier post.

Thanks guys! Price may be up by 20, 000 VND (to 220k) at some shops, at others still 200k total.

JD

Hyestud
04-28-11, 08:08
I will be traveling with my wife to to HCMC next month. I woud really appreciate help in finding a Spa (very clean and not rundown) where I can take my wife and have a little fun on the side. I have read allot of the blogs and cannot find anything really definitive.

Thanks for the help.

Johndao
04-28-11, 16:49
I will be traveling with my wife to to HCMC next month. I would really appreciate help in finding a Spa (very clean and not rundown) where I can take my wife and have a little fun on the side. I have read allot of the blogs and cannot find anything really definitive.

Thanks for the help. Do you mean you want to leave your wife at a spa for a couple of hours and then go and seek some fun / sex somewhere before coming back to get her? Or do you mean you want to go to the same spa as her but to a different room where you can have fun / sex?

If it's the latter I have no idea and would be surprised if you find anything. You may be able to get a HJ happy ending with her in the next room but I doubt it. If it's the former, drop her and then get a cab to any of the mentioned 'blow and gos' and then come back and get her. But it won't take you long!

JD

Hyestud
04-28-11, 17:59
Do you mean you want to leave your wife at a spa for a couple of hours and then go and seek some fun / sex somewhere before coming back to get her? Or do you mean you want to go to the same spa as her but to a different room where you can have fun / sex?

If it's the latter I have no idea and would be surprised if you find anything. You may be able to get a HJ happy ending with her in the next room but I doubt it. If it's the former, drop her and then get a cab to any of the mentioned 'blow and gos' and then come back and get her. But it won't take you long!

JDThanks for the tip. In Bangkok we usually do the soapys together but it sounds like the Blow and Gos and spas in Vietnam mostly cater to single males and are generally not couple friendly.

Johndao
05-03-11, 08:42
Thanks for the tip. In Bangkok we usually do the soapys together but it sounds like the Blow and Gos and spas in Vietnam mostly cater to single males and are generally not couple friendly.Yes, Bangkok is a city in southeast Asia and so is HCMC. That's it.

JD

Polygon
05-05-11, 11:11
Hi Newbie here.

Is there any guide within the topic or any senior can guide me?

I'm heading HCMC at next Monday and will be there for a week.

AdHome01
05-06-11, 23:10
Hi Newbie here.

Is there any guide within the topic or any senior can guide me?

I'm heading HCMC at next Monday and will be there for a week.I suggest you read the forum and come up with a more specific question. Not to be a prick but it's all here in the forum. You just need to take the time a read it. Then, if you have question or need clarification, ask.

BionicMan
05-07-11, 05:43
[QUOTE=Polygon; 1152073]Hi Newbie here.

Is there any guide within the topic or any senior can guide me?

I'm heading HCMC at next Monday and will be there for a week. [/QUOTE.

By the way, how were your experiences in Jakarta and KL?

I am a newby there: do you have any guide within the topic or can you guide me?

I know this is the wrong forum for those areas, but I was just wondering whether you might add contributions and not only take contributions.

K Brew
05-09-11, 13:30
Ouch! I was just goping through some of these posts and it looks like I just paid way too much for a happy massage. I went tot he "Kingston Club" on Hang Chuoi in Hanoi (sry I know this is HCMC) and Paid 910, 000VDR. Granted it was a 90 min massage / spa and a little bit of a BJ. She finished me off with an HJ. Daaaaamn! Oh well, I was going to go overnight with this girl but she asked 100USD. What do you guys think I should try to get her down to and should I offer her anything to take some pics? What are the going rates for over night in HCMC. She seems like she'd provide good service, jumped right into BBBJ, was a pretty cute girl.

Muse Fan
05-11-11, 05:01
Ouch! I was just goping through some of these posts and it looks like I just paid way too much for a happy massage. I went tot he "Kingston Club" on Hang Chuoi in Hanoi (sry I know this is HCMC) and Paid 910, 000VDR. Granted it was a 90 min massage / spa and a little bit of a BJ. She finished me off with an HJ. Daaaaamn! Oh well, I was going to go overnight with this girl but she asked 100USD. What do you guys think I should try to get her down to and should I offer her anything to take some pics? What are the going rates for over night in HCMC. She seems like she'd provide good service, jumped right into BBBJ, was a pretty cute girl.I haven't been to the kingston and I'm not a vet here on the forum or ho chi minh, but you after reading the site and testing a few waters. You definitely overpaid. Now she wants 100$ for ovenight, she better be a god damn 12 (out of a 10 scale) to be asking that much.

Am I wrong here fellas?

Japentii
05-11-11, 17:16
I went to Vien Dong Hotel massage and also a BnG at NPK. Let's compare the two.

VIEN DONG:

Conveniently located, went in there. 200k for a body massage. Ushered into the locker room, the guy there asked if I had chosen a girl, I wasn't given that option, so I said no. He said he will pick someone beautiful and young for me. So I agreed. Put my stuff away, went for a shower and steam, skipped the sauna. Wanted to go to my massage but was a bit lost. I headed into a room and the guy asked if I wanted a back scrub. I was like, oh yeah, is this the table shower like some korean places? Ummm, no. I was being painfully molested by a guy for 10 minutes, felt like a plate being put under a steel wool scrub. And he asked me for a tip! OMG. Well, gave him 30k. I know I was being cheap, but it was not something I wanted let alone pay for.

Finally got led to my massage room. Windowed door, not a good sign. Second floor close to the end of corridor, better sign. Waited like 10 minutes, massuese finally shows up. Pretty, I give her an 7. 5. Was chirpy and chatty in the beginning, sizing me up. (like asking me if I were single, here alone, been to a massage parlour before, blah blah) Dropped her hints, grazing my nuts "accidentally", etc. Flipped me over, asked me "pepe want massage?". I asked for a BJ and she said No, not allowed. Whatever. I have been giving myself free HJs for 20 years, and they are pretty good I must say. I am not going to pay someone to do that for me. No more smile, became very mechanical, waiting for the time to pass. Asked for a tip. I tipped her 100k. She wasn't happy at all, gave me a look. I didn't F'ing care.

Damage: 200K (massage) .30K (tip for scrub) .100K (tip for massage) .20K (tip for locker room boys) = total 330K.

Satisfaction: 3/10 got all horny for nothing, the massage was ok, steam room and facilities okay.

WIR? : If I want a pretty girl to get me all horny, maybe.

HOT TOC on NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) :

I am sorry as I forgot the number, I think it was 84. Anyway I was walking down the street, doesn't look like a good street to be walking alone in the dark, but I felt safe. I probably saw about 6 of these hot toc places. I saw one hot girl came out for a smoke or something. I walked from end to end and doubled back to make my choice. Some of the "bouncers" are not helping, the one I went to, there were 3 friendlier bouncers. Wanted 300k, thanks to ISG I knew the market price. I said 100k for ticket. 100k for girl (with my sign language and the help of two 100k notes). Okie dokie. Went right in.

6 girls sitting there watching tv. A fat one ushered me upstairs. I said I wanted to choose. Some 5s. 6s, one 9. Guess who I picked? She was young, slim, cute ass, very pretty, looked like a innocent teenager type, boobs on the small size, but still a nice body. Took me upstairs, showed me to a room. Asked me if I wanted a pepe massage. Sure, since I know she meant BBBJ rather than HJ. (again thanks ISG). Wet wipes, stripped down, no more innocent little girl. He tongue was like a tsunami. Lapping my nipples and she was trying to lick it off. Roamed her cute butt and when she wiped only my left hand, I knew what that was for. But I didn't finger her as she was very tight.

Moved downstairs, took her time, I felt like a Japanese AV star. After a few minutes, she deep throated me, and I couldn't hold it in anymore. She spat it out in a smooth motion and continued to suck me dry and until I was completely limp. Must have sucked for another 1-2 minutes after I came. Cleaned me up, and went to clean herself up. Came back to the room I was already all dressed. Took out 100k and she asked,"tip?" I said yes. HUGE smile on her face like she won a minor lottery. Gave me a hug and a peck on the cheek. Said something in Vietnamese like please come again or something. (I don't speak Viet but I could guess from the body language). Went downstairs, dropped another 100k for the ticket, went out with a smile on my face.

Damage: 100k ticket. 100k tip.

Satisfaction: 9/10, BBBJ was not perfect but close, AV star feel, she was a hot 9, with bigger boobs would be a perfect 10.

WIR? : want to guess?

Did you like my report? Comments welcomed.

Jon Does
05-12-11, 01:25
Did you like my report? Comments welcomed.Good report and nice to see someone who doesn't speak the language following the advice on here and getting a good service.

Raverboy
05-12-11, 03:16
I went to Vien Dong Hotel massage and also a BnG at NPK. Let's compare the two.

VIEN DONG:

Damage: 200K (massage).30K (tip for scrub).100K (tip for massage).20K (tip for locker room boys) = total 330K.

Satisfaction: 3/10 got all horny for nothing, the massage was ok, steam room and facilities okay.

WIR? : If I want a pretty girl to get me all horny, maybe.

HOT TOC on NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) :

Damage: 100k ticket. 100k tip.

Satisfaction: 9/10, BBBJ was not perfect but close, AV star feel, she was a hot 9, with bigger boobs would be a perfect 10.

WIR? : want to guess?

Did you like my report? Comments welcomed. Nice work on the report by method of compare-and-contrast.

Masseuses at the Vien Dong hotel massage, as well as at any of the hotels in the Pham Ngu Lao, Dong Khoi areas of D1, cater largely to the foreign tourist market and have thus been spoilt by those who are not resident in Vietnam and who, comparing with their home countries, would easily think a VND 300.000/400.000/500.000 (USD 15-25) tip for a HJ is a steal. These girls clear upwards of VND 20 M / month easy, approx. 5-6 times the average monthly wage in this country.

Johndao
05-12-11, 04:12
Nice work on the report by method of compare-and-contrast.

Masseuses at the Vien Dong hotel massage, as well as at any of the hotels in the Pham Ngu Lao, Dong Khoi areas of D1, cater largely to the foreign tourist market and have thus been spoilt by those who are not resident in Vietnam and who, comparing with their home countries, would easily think a VND 300. 000/400. 000/500. 000 (USD 15-25) tip for a HJ is a steal. These girls clear upwards of VND 20 M / month easy, approx. 5-6 times the average monthly wage in this country. I agree with most of what you wrote Raverboy, except that these girls clear upward of 20m per month. Although they may take in that much, there is no way massage or hotel managers would let girls keep that much working out of THEIR place. The 'fees' that they (or anyone in VN) have to pay in order to earn that much are substantial. 'Little people' just are not allowed to keep that much when they are working the facilities of 'big people. '

JD

Raverboy
05-12-11, 04:47
I agree with most of what you wrote Raverboy, except that these girls clear upward of 20m per month. Although they may take in that much, there is no way massage or hotel managers would let girls keep that much working out of THEIR place. The 'fees' that they (or anyone in VN) have to pay in order to earn that much are substantial. 'Little people' just are not allowed to keep that much when they are working the facilities of 'big people. '

JDTrue, although I don't think the 'fees' make that much of an impact on each girl as there is probably 1 or 2 massage or hotel managers to about 20+ girls. Vien Dong alone probably has about 50-70 girls working 2 or 3 shifts per 24 hours.

Muse Fan
05-13-11, 09:53
Did you like my report? Comments welcomed.Nice post. Excellent details. I have yet to try NPK, but I am now inspired to look it up next chance I get.

Thanks bud.

K Brew
05-15-11, 07:33
Hello,

I've been trying to find a full service massage and I've been searching the forum with not a lot of luck. Does anyone know of a place that they would be willing to reccomend? I'm in the Distrct 1 area, if there's a place close to that it'd be even better. I was expecting to pay something like 400K for the hour? But please correct me if this is too much / little. Feel free to PM me.

Thanks,

KB

Explorerman
05-15-11, 13:27
Hello,

I've been trying to find a full service massage and I've been searching the forum with not a lot of luck. Does anyone know of a place that they would be willing to reccomend? I'm in the Distrct 1 area, if there's a place close to that it'd be even better. I was expecting to pay something like 400K for the hour? But please correct me if this is too much / little. Feel free to PM me.

Thanks,

KBDude, hard to take serious that you did not see any information on FS massage. Did you only read three posts?

Please keep reading.

K Brew
05-16-11, 10:46
Dude, hard to take serious that you did not see any information on FS massage. Did you only read three posts?

Please keep reading. Reports of FS Massage are quite sparse. I read through about 7 pages, or 4 months, of stuff in the many VN subforums. When there are reports very pertinent details, like an address or the name of an establishment are generallly omitted. I spent about 3 hours on this forum sifting through posts, clad with a printed out map of HCMC working like a detective to find places to go. I have finally found some promising leadds but we'll see where they go. I'm definitely not interested in any BnGs and I'm not so comfortable with the SW scene. I found a map by JD and I plan on heading out there. I'll put up a nice report if I find something worth mentioning.

Mas 147
05-16-11, 11:11
When you least expect it, you stumble on one of these full sex places.

A few of us went out for a massage in HCM a year back including a female colleague.

We went to a cheap looking place, clean enough with smiling girls out front.

There were 3 of us and we stripped behind a curtain to have a massage. Half way through this girls says "sex?" and almost got into the massage bed with me. If our female colleague had not been there I would have gone for it

Mas 147

Explorerman
05-16-11, 17:21
Reports of FS Massage are quite sparse. I read through about 7 pages, or 4 months, of stuff in the many VN subforums. When there are reports very pertinent details, like an address or the name of an establishment are generallly omitted. I spent about 3 hours on this forum sifting through posts, clad with a printed out map of HCMC working like a detective to find places to go. I have finally found some promising leads but we'll see where they go. I'm definitely not interested in any BnGs and I'm not so comfortable with the SW scene. I found a map by JD and I plan on heading out there. I'll put up a nice report if I find something worth mentioning.Thanks for not getting offended. I was just surprised. One tip. There is a search function on the site.

Before I asked the question, I did a search and found information from January until now, but I guess you went page by page.

I am with you. Not usually interested in BnG or SW, and I find I prefer more upmarket, and willing to pay.

Let us know what you found.

K Brew
05-18-11, 12:48
Well after a HORRENDOUS experience with one of the girls I picked up at Xo Viet bridge last night I decided to take one last kick at the can in this country. So far I had paid 45$ for a HJ / massage in Hanoi. 20$ for a total ***** of a SW and then 30$ for a total clusterfuck of an encounter last night!

I finally decided that maybe trying to find full service was just too much hassle for the short time tourist. There certainly is no easy route to a quality FS encounter here without someone to show you the ropes.

So on to it, I headed up to NPK (Nguyen Phi Khanh) from PNL (Pham Ngu Lao) , stopping first in Thi Sach to get a quick look at Smileys. I made a quick stop at "Smiley's" because I came across something that alluded to FS and that's what I originally wanted. When I got there I asked,"massage?" and was told "No massage just blowjob!" by the bartender. This was going to be easy I thought. So out walks this sweet looking girl about an 8/10 and she starts groping my cock and has me petting her pussy. She starts in with,"Ok 50$", which made me laugh but she didn't find it as funny :P. I tell her,"in your dreams" and then say "I'll give you 200". She says she cannot and then lost interest. I was wondering if guys were actually paying her this. I left and she shit talked me in Vietnamese as I turned my back. Whatever lady, you can make some money or no money, up to you.

At this point I was really getting agitated and hopped on the moto bike to NPK. When I got there I looked around for Hot Toc and found it quite easily. Walked inside with friendly staff greeting me. When I arrived there were a bunch of pretty decent and downright cute girls all in their uniforms. I tell them,"100 massage", they nod assuringly and encourage me to select a girl. I pick a Cutie name "Yaawn" or something similar to that. She's a young 20's Viet with a slamming body. She is nice but doesn't speak much english. I get naked and she does a half assed massage and has me roll over. She starts with sucking my nipples as I grope her ass and tits. This progresses to me fingering her albeit gently as per her protest. She also had an AMAZING rack. They were Perky C-cups with gorgeous nipples. Very nice smile on this girl as she sucks my cock. I meant to get some pics of her but didn't rememeber until the session was up LOL. I'm not even sure they'd let me, anyone know. JD? Also, do you think she'd do an outcall to my hotel if I got her number? What should I be prepared to pay for that with ST and LT?

All in all a great experience. I tipped her 100 vnd and paid the staff 100 vnd for the room. Great time with a great girl and I'll be returning.

Looks: 8. 5/10.

Service: 8/10.

"Bullshit Factor": No Bullshit!

Damage: 100vnd room + 100Vnd tip = 200. 000VND.

Thanks!

KB.

PS: I really appreciated that they didn't fuck around with me when I got back down to the lobby and paid for the room. I was almost expecting them to talk some shit and ask me for 300VND for the room! I plan to return tomorrow for another session and maybe with a friend. I think they appreciate the value of referrals and repeat business. Sorry if WAY TOO LONG!

AdHome01
05-19-11, 19:55
to get a quick look at Smileys. I made a quick stop at "Smiley's" because I came across something that alluded to FS and that's what I originally wanted. When I got there I asked,"massage?" and was told "No massage just blowjob!" by the bartender. This was going to be easy I thought. So out walks this sweet looking girl about an 8/10 and she starts groping my cock and has me petting her pussy. She starts in with,"Ok 50$", which made me laugh but she didn't find it as funny :P. I tell her,"in your dreams" and then say "I'll give you 200". She says she cannot and then lost interest. I was wondering if guys were actually paying her this. I left and she shit talked me in Vietnamese as I turned my back. Whatever lady, you can make some money or no money, up to you.That's the normal price (1 million ST and 2 mil. LT) at Smiley's along with the HBT bars. The girls set the price and all stick to it. Stick to the Hot Tocs and BNG shops for the $200, 000 service. There are plenty out there and many listed in the forum.

Raverboy
05-20-11, 04:01
Well after a HORRENDOUS experience with one of the girls I picked up at Xo Viet bridge last night I decided to take one last kick at the can in this country...Could you share with us your 'horrendous' experience? Was this a moto-girl FL or a SW standing on the bridge itself? By the way, its Xo Viet Nghe Tinh Street and Thi Nghe Bridge.

Keeniu
05-22-11, 13:08
Last time I was in HCMC, the Monthly wage for coffee shop girl was 1. 2 million and 12 hour days.

A months wages for 40 minutes work? In Thailand ST is under 1000 bt. So USD 50 in Vn vs USD 33 in Thailand.

In Thailand the bar owner takes 40-60% of that $33. Any way you calculate it, these rates are obscene.

Which is why Indonesia is a better mongering destination.

Raverboy
05-22-11, 19:41
Last time I was in HCMC, the Monthly wage for coffee shop girl was 1. 2 million and 12 hour days.

A months wages for 40 minutes work? In Thailand ST is under 1000 bt. So USD 50 in Vn vs USD 33 in Thailand.

In Thailand the bar owner takes 40-60% of that $33. Any way you calculate it, these rates are obscene.

Which is why Indonesia is a better mongering destination.

Yes. Agree with you on all counts. Which is why as some have said, this is not Thailand, and about the only thing in common between the two is that they are both on the Southeast Asian mainland.

The problem is perpetuated by tourists / non-resident mongerers who might not have the time or inclination to chase that abundant yet elusive poontang in VN, of pricing more in line with the average wages in this country such as that you speak of. To many of them (for example: Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean, etc.) they are willing to pay the USD 50 for ST because 'its still cheaper' than in their home country.

Bars like Smiley's on Thi Sach and the 'numbered' bars on Hai Ba Trung and Dong Khoi streets are visited almost entirely by tourists / non-resident / foreign mongerers who are not willing to go outside of their D1 comfort zone. These bars, for example, impose a 'barfine' - a concept that is unknown nowhere else in this country, but merely copied from the Cambodians, who copied it from the Thais, as a way for the bar to recoup some pure profit for being the 'middleman' to the uninformed mongerer.

IMO, if you are a foreigner in VN (i.e. you don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap/free pussy in this city are endless.

Nevertheless, I still occasionally need to satisfy my cravings to main main cewek di Kota, Djakarta - sedap !!

Disher
05-24-11, 20:40
Thanks for not getting offended. I was just surprised. One tip. There is a search function on the site.

Before I asked the question, I did a search and found information from January until now, but I guess you went page by page.

I am with you. Not usually interested in BnG or SW, and I find I prefer more upmarket, and willing to pay.

Let us know what you found.Ask taxi driver for korean quarter near airport. All hot tocs there are FS. 600k, tip included.

Wendella
05-25-11, 08:45
Bars like Smiley's on Thi Sach and the 'numbered' bars on Hai Ba Trung and Dong Khoi streets are visited almost entirely by tourists / non-resident / foreign mongerers who are not willing to go outside of their D1 comfort zone.

IMO, if you are a foreigner in VN (I. E. You don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap / free pussy in this city are endless. First statement not exactly true. The bars in D1 are good for expats for whom cost is not the top priority while time and convenience are. They're more expensive than most types of places (and are actually still cheaper than some). What's good about them is that 1. You can get a large selection of quite attractive girls all in one spot, all ready to go. I don't think any other type of venue in the city can match them for concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space. 2. It's easy: no legwork to do, no need to exchange phone numbers and do dates first to soften them up. You can literally walk into one and choose a girl and walk out in less than 5 minutes if that's your thing. For guys who don't have lots of free time, that's a huge plus, and also a reason expats (esp married ones who can't be out all night) will go there. I would guess that more of the customers in these places are expats than tourists. Some guys on here hate them, and I get why, and understand. But these bars do serve their purpose. There's more to it than this too. The atmosphere in these bars is a big step up from, for example, the NPK hot tocs or bia oms or other VN-oriented places. Places with lower prices than these bars are generally a lot seedier looking. Some would say dirty. I can't say I've ever done a swab analysis to compare.

Your 2nd statement: you also need a lot of TIME to pursue the free ones here. If you're single, living in a guesthouse or apartment or something, OK. But not everyone is in that situation. A lot of guys are very busy with work and don't have much free time, or have wives and families.


That's the normal price (1 million ST and 2 mil. LT) at Smiley's along with the HBT bars. The girls set the price and all stick to it. Stick to the Hot Tocs and BNG shops for the $200, 000 service. There are plenty out there and many listed in the forum.I wasn't sure from the original post on this if the girl was asking for $50 for a BLOWJOB. If so, that's surely off the charts. But for ST it's standard. Last time I got a quote on a BJ in Smiley was 500, 000. You might be able to negotiate a tad lower, but not much (if at all). But 200, 000 is well below going-price in Smiley. That's a tip for some girls.

Raverboy
05-25-11, 09:17
First statement not exactly true. The bars in D1 are good for expats for whom cost is not the top priority while time and convenience are. They're more expensive than most types of places (and are actually still cheaper than some). What's good about them is that 1. You can get a large selection of quite attractive girls all in one spot, all ready to go. I don't think any other type of venue in the city can match them for concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space. 2. It's easy: no legwork to do, no need to exchange phone numbers and do dates first to soften them up. You can literally walk into one and choose a girl and walk out in less than 5 minutes if that's your thing. For guys who don't have lots of free time, that's a huge plus, and also a reason expats (esp married ones who can't be out all night) will go there. I would guess that more of the customers in these places are expats than tourists. Some guys on here hate them, and I get why, and understand. But these bars do serve their purpose. There's more to it than this too. The atmosphere in these bars is a big step up from, for example, the NPK hot tocs or bia oms or other VN-oriented places. Places with lower prices than these bars are generally a lot seedier looking. Some would say dirty. I can't say I've ever done a swab analysis to compare...That's what I said preceding my 1st statement:


The problem is perpetuated by tourists / non-resident mongerers who might not have the time or inclination to chase that abundant yet elusive poontang in VN, of pricing more in line with the average wages in this country such as that you speak of. To many of them (for example: Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean, etc.) they are willing to pay the USD 50 for ST because 'its still cheaper' than in their home country....As for other venues in this city to match the "concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space", here are a few examples out of several options:

1. The FS salons in Q Tan Binh and PMH Q7.

- 20+ salons in Q Tan Binh in a cluster of 4-5 streets. 20+ girls each.

2. Moto girls along NBK / XVNT / DBP.

- Example: I stopped along the side of the road along NBK one night on my motorbike, in about 20 seconds I was propositioned by 6-7 riders, all riding single. At least 2 do-able out of the lot.

3. BJ salons in Q Binh Thanh, Q10, Q Thu Duc.

- Depending on which salons, most of these girls would be amenable to being taken out at short notice for FS at a ST hotel, as they can easily double or triple their meagre income that way.

All of the above - No silly barfine, all ranging from minimum VND 300k to VND 600k maximum for ST, all already mentioned on this board. At the HBT bars you're out a minimum of VND 500k barfine + USD50 ST = VND 1,5 M for ST, plus overpriced ladydrinks.


Your 2nd statement: you also need a lot of TIME to pursue the free ones here. If you're single, living in a guesthouse or apartment or something, OK. But not everyone is in that situation. A lot of guys are very busy with work and don't have much free time, or have wives and families.Right. So a small correction:

"IMO, if you are a single Foreigner in VN (I. E. You don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap / free pussy in this city are endless."

Disher
05-25-11, 15:22
Was at DBL today when it started to rain so I decided to stop to put on my raincoat. Just happened to stop right in front of a Goi Dau shop. Well, haven't tried this street yet and read somewhere there is actually ngu om. Wasn't a very busy place and there was also just one girl available at that time.

Place was dirtier than benny but way less customers. I actually think I was the only one. So instead of going to a tiny box you go into a big room with 2 massage mats, room has a curtain if there should be another customer there at the same time. But it looked like they have like at least 4 rooms on 2 floors.

Came in the room and she asked me to undress and went out to get wet towels. Speculating on FS I just undressed completely. This wasnt the place I heard of though so when she came back she told me I can't do this here. Meh.

Asked me if I want to have a massage but I denied so she starts with the usual nipple licking and then goes down.

Girl had nice boobs, decent face. I'd say she was 25 but didn't care to ask. Also didn't asked her for phone number or if she's available for st / lt. But pretty sure she is though. There are some very new and nie mini hotels on this street as well. Maybe ill ask next tie if you need to bring a girl or if you can pick them up right there.

Girl: 6.

BBBJ+CIM: 6, not sure if CIM is normal but I just kept her head down and she didn't mind really.

Damage: ticket 80k, tip 120k (only had 200k bill on me) = 200k.

Will give some other places a shot some other time as DBL has plenty of Goi Dau or massage places

Cheers.

Ps: don't try to hard to find cheap FS. Girls are rather average, place is usually dirty and service is mediocre at best. Go straight for free instead. Looking for serious GFE then be ready to spent some big bucks. Hot chicks don't come for free, not even if they are [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor and need the money. And its still cheap for expats / tourists anyway.

I also strongly advice to learn some basic vietnamese. Use google translate and vdict and you're set for real world encounters as well as other places on the net where they exchange air planes. Vietnamese love to share. Learn, read and win. Sounds easy and it is. I actually know vietnamese but hardly need to speak when I'm out mongering. They know what you want without having to hear it from you.

Wendella
05-26-11, 10:40
That's what I said preceding my 1st statement:OK, just that you said "tourists / non-residents". I guess what I meant to stress was that those spots are also useful for some of us expats here. I still visit them, and I think others do too.


As for other venues ... several options:I could be wrong about #1 on your list, maybe I just wasn't lucky. But I haven't come across one shop up there that can match 91 or Bin Bin for sheer numbers of lookers. But if you know of one that can, please please send me a PM. ;-) For #2 or #3, no way on earth can the motorbike girls or BJ shops match the HBT bars in the looks dept. That goes back to the convenience issue: I don't want to drive around all night looking for one thats acceptable. I know if I walk into 91 I'm almost surely going to spot that immediately. If I go drive around motorbike spots, chances are much lower I'll spot what I like. Also, if you go to one motorbike spot (with 3 to 10 girls at once) and don't see what you like, then the next spot to check might be on the other side of the city. For the HBT bars (10-20 girls) , the next place might be next door (another 10-20) with a bunch more a short walk away. Also, in your #2 and #3 venues especially, hygiene is way lower. For #2 the STD / HIV risk would be way higher than anywhere else (they do way more customers, plus many of them inject). Anyway, I'm a foreigner who does go outside the D1 comfort zone. But I have to say a lot of the time it takes a lot of driving around for no results. And I always keep checking out D1 again. But your key point is totally correct: they're definitely much more expensive than the other venues, can't argue with that one. To get into the spots you mention, a guy has to be a bit adventurous, and also not too bothered by things that look a bit rough. It's not for everyone. So "comfort zone" regarding D1 bars is a good way of putting it.

Raverboy
05-26-11, 11:04
...I could be wrong about #1 on your list, maybe I just wasn't lucky. But I haven't come across one shop up there that can match 91 or Bin Bin for sheer numbers of lookers. But if you know of one that can, please please send me a PM. ;-) For #2 or #3, no way on earth can the motorbike girls or BJ shops match the HBT bars in the looks dept. That goes back to the convenience issue: I don't want to drive around all night looking for one thats acceptable. I know if I walk into 91 I'm almost surely going to spot that immediately. If I go drive around motorbike spots, chances are much lower I'll spot what I like. Also, if you go to one motorbike spot (with 3 to 10 girls at once) and don't see what you like, then the next spot to check might be on the other side of the city. For the HBT bars (10-20 girls) , the next place might be next door (another 10-20) with a bunch more a short walk away. Also, in your #2 and #3 venues especially, hygiene is way lower. For #2 the STD / HIV risk would be way higher than anywhere else (they do way more customers, plus many of them inject). Anyway, I'm a foreigner who does go outside the D1 comfort zone. But I have to say a lot of the time it takes a lot of driving around for no results. And I always keep checking out D1 again. But your key point is totally correct: they're definitely much more expensive than the other venues, can't argue with that one. To get into the spots you mention, a guy has to be a bit adventurous, and also not too bothered by things that look a bit rough. It's not for everyone. So "comfort zone" regarding D1 bars is a good way of putting it.

Your point is taken on my #2 and #3. One thing I'll say about hygiene is. Most of the BJ shops in Q10 for example are about the same level of cleanliness as the FS salons I mentioned in #1. I. E. A small knotch lower than the 'normal' hair wash salons one finds in Q1.

As for #1, an enterprising poster on another board (you know which one) made a list of ALL (!) the FS salons in that one little area. There are 20+ of these, each with 20+ girls. Based on pure statistics alone, I am sure the odds of finding a few lookers out of 500 odd girls is not bad at all.

Wendella
05-27-11, 17:58
Your point is taken on my #2 and #3. One thing I'll say about hygiene is. Most of the BJ shops in Q10 for example are about the same level of cleanliness as the FS salons I mentioned in #1. I. E. A small knotch lower than the 'normal' hair wash salons one finds in Q1.

As for #1, an enterprising poster on another board (you know which one) made a list of ALL (!) the FS salons in that one little area. There are 20+ of these, each with 20+ girls. Based on pure statistics alone, I am sure the odds of finding a few Lookers out of 500 odd girls is not bad at all. Ah ok. I know where you mean but not who. I don't keep up with that other forum these days. Or even this one really. Just drop in once in awhile. 20? I had no idea there were nearly that many.

I thought of another reason I still like the HBT bars: the girls dress up sexy. I dig that. And if things click, you get to roam your hands right there, and see how much the girl is willing to do right there in the bar, or let me do in the bar. I like that part.

K Brew
05-29-11, 11:56
Could you share with us your 'horrendous' experience? Was this a moto-girl FL or a SW standing on the bridge itself? By the way, its Xo Viet Nghe Tinh Street and Thi Nghe Bridge.Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.

I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a ***** fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.

I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff

Raverboy
05-29-11, 12:16
Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.

I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a * fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.

I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. UffThis shit happens more often than you think, especially to foreigners. Mind telling us where 'this place' is so we can avoid?

Disher
05-29-11, 19:35
Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.

I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a * fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.

I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. UffYeah, definitely not a good idea to start a fight there. I was in a similar situation there a few weeks back. XVNT has some nice lookers on the bikes but the service is really poor most of the time. You should really avoid those standing on the bridge or anywhere close to the bridge. Those are even worse than the bike girls and most of the time they are also users (be it out of free will or not.) Every time I asked one of those on the bridge they would ask me if I want to fuck them or want to do drugs with them. Should really avoid that bridge but if you feel lucky then go for the bike girls.

Expatriot
05-31-11, 04:39
Hello, All,

Since I live in Q, PN I thought I would share in what's in my part of town for mongering. A local friend of mine took me out by the airport in the Korean area of Tan Binh dist. On Bai Vi Street (use Diadiem. Com or google maps)

There are a number of Korean barber shops that offer full service for 620k (120 to the house. 500 to the girl). There are comfortable rooms upstairs with showers, and a decent bed, and yes they actually change the sheets. The price for all of these places is the same, and they tend not to service locals, because they think they are all Five-O. They never haggle over the price, and you pay after you are done. The girls working there were slim, don't really care about cup size since I have lived here, and very accomodating. I took a shower with my girl post coituos, and ended up popping again. Just look for anyplace with frosted glass, and there is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy. The fresh line up of girls comes in around 2pm, and it always seems to be the pick of the litter. If anyone needs anymore info just let me know.

Tim Em Xinh
06-03-11, 03:44
Hello, All,

There is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy. Must be one heck of a hair cut.

Expatriot
06-03-11, 09:49
Must be one heck of a hair cut.If you go upstairs it is a hell of a haircut, its worth the the trip out of Dist's 1, 2.3, 7, I know its Tan Binh but it is always guaranteed good time, with out the haggling