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Admin
01-01-07, 02:00
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OzzieSuds
07-30-07, 17:52
thread starter.

frankly a separate thread on massage parlours in hcmc is not going to see a lot of traffic.

the typical deal for massage in hcmc is rooms or booths that have windows or openings so that people can peer in. they usually have a locker room where they expect you to change beforehand and put on their baggy shorts. the gals wear a sort of skirt/shorts combination that seriously restricts access. all of this set up is to deliberately reduce the opportunity for extras. most places have sauna and jacuzzi but there is no choice of girls unless you have a name from before.

very rarely have i been offered any extras and that was always no more than a furtive hj. the only place where this was consistently offered is the place on dong do in the lane opposite the club italia (aka sports bar).

basic 30 mins massage is usually about vnd 100,000 and extras (if you can get them) are negotiated from there.

Dragonfly22
07-30-07, 18:17
Sudz, I had an excellent massage at the Rex, "Club". Baggy pants and all. I believe the attendant goes through your clothes while you are getting the massage. The elaborate locking procedure is just a farce because they have the master key anyway. BBBJ was on special that night for $50 USD but negotiable. $20USD for HJ. Not rushed and full exploration of top and bottom. Had dinner with the lil Hunnie afterwards but because I was leaving the next morning I didn't pursue anything further. Jacuzzi and suana also.

Wendella
08-06-07, 01:11
I agree that Massage is not really much of an attraction in HCMC. And "Bars and Clubs" is a bit too specific, and doesn't include other types of venues and pickup options. Getting Hotels separate is a good thing though.

Heinz Q
09-06-07, 20:08
I actually had a decent massage, with lots of extras including BBBJ, and FS, at the superbowl out by the airport. The Mamasan, although she hates to be called that, speaks great English and will set you up. It has been a while but i believe the total damage was 300K.

Apart from that it is nearly impossible to get anything more than previously described. It used to be easier, 5 or 6 years ago, but I think the Government has been cracking down in an effort to attract tourism.

Desmondh69
11-05-07, 07:49
I am not looking for a decent massage. So where can I go?

Dragonfly22
12-01-07, 10:01
Strictly from a massage standpoint the basic babrbershop is a no hanky panky facility. The only good thing is you can have a good massage by a sweet lil 20 something scantily dressed rubbing her nubile body all over you for about 4 or 5 USD for an hour. Good thing is you can sometimes negotiate a later date. Had one of these everday as therapy......most of the hunnies are stunning.

Larry L Lizard
12-22-07, 14:47
Just a quick report on an MP experience I had a few months back in HCMC.

I walked in to a massage place at Pham Ngu Lao, ordered for a body massage at100k which came with free foot massage. (Note foot massage is done at a separate area from the body massage) Since this was my first experience for this type of establishment, I didn’t know how the system worked. So I just followed whatever told.

After a nice shower/Jacuzzi/steam/sauna/and more shower, which was very clean and nice, I was given shorts to wear. The mama san led me to a small but clean cubicle and told me to wait. I didn’t know what to do in there while waiting for a girl, but the instinct told me to just lie down on the bed facing up, where I noticed the railing fixed on the ceiling. After seemingly a long wait, a petit, a little chubby girl entered. She seemed to have some rudimentary understanding of English. Rapport was established between us by smiles and simple conversations. Having done the normal massage, (I was still face down) she moved onto some suggestive hand movements between my cheeks (read a gentle AR). As she probed her thumb through the crack, I lifted my bum a little to get the full effect of it. Nice. She motioned me to flip over, with which I duly complied.

She works on my toes, pulling, twisting and moving up the legs, the calve, the thighs. As she kneads my thighs, her hands purposely brush my member and balls. I feel it rising with anticipation and the inevitable end.

There, she stops, bringing me back to the reality. She leans over me and asks if I want a massage down there, to which I say "how much". She starts with a ridiculous price like 500K. A 500K for a HJ, no way. I negotiates down to 300K (this is still too high) but I was quite chuffed with the AR technique she demonstrated earlier on. She tries to cheer me up by saying that the next it would be 200K. I feel better.

She starts the gentle up and down movement on the now limp member, but building up by touching balls and AR actions. By now the poor chap is now fully obliged. I extend my right hand to touch her bum and bosom. She let me do that as long as it does not go too deep. I ask if I can see her pussy to which she says no, but lets me touch it over her knickers. I try to move the fabric to one side. But this effort is thwarted by the tight fitting of her knickers. Oh well.

Being conscious of time, I decide to unleash my load. She gently squeezes out the last remaining liquid, cleans me up, and gives me an affectionate hug, signaling this is THE END.

Total damage: 100K body massage + 300K tip. (away too much! )

Remember free foot massage I mentioned in the beginning? My next report will be about that which develops into a rather unexpected event.

Toohard
12-28-07, 09:59
Just a quick report on an MP experience I had a few months back in HCMC.

I walked in to a massage place at Pham Ngu Lao, ordered for a body massage at100k which came with free foot massage. (Note foot massage is done at a separate area from the body massage) Since this was my first experience for this type of establishment, I didn’t know how the system worked. So I just followed whatever told.

After a nice shower/Jacuzzi/steam/sauna/and more shower, which was very clean and nice, I was given shorts to wear. The mama san led me to a small but clean cubicle and told me to wait. I didn’t know what to do in there while waiting for a girl, but the instinct told me to just lie down on the bed facing up, where I noticed the railing fixed on the ceiling. After seemingly a long wait, a petit, a little chubby girl entered. She seemed to have some rudimentary understanding of English. Rapport was established between us by smiles and simple conversations. Having done the normal massage, (I was still face down) she moved onto some suggestive hand movements between my cheeks (read a gentle AR). As she probed her thumb through the crack, I lifted my bum a little to get the full effect of it. Nice. She motioned me to flip over, with which I duly complied.

She works on my toes, pulling, twisting and moving up the legs, the calve, the thighs. As she kneads my thighs, her hands purposely brush my member and balls. I feel it rising with anticipation and the inevitable end.

There, she stops, bringing me back to the reality. She leans over me and asks if I want a massage down there, to which I say "how much". She starts with a ridiculous price like 500K. A 500K for a HJ, no way. I negotiates down to 300K (this is still too high) but I was quite chuffed with the AR technique she demonstrated earlier on. She tries to cheer me up by saying that the next it would be 200K. I feel better.

She starts the gentle up and down movement on the now limp member, but building up by touching balls and AR actions. By now the poor chap is now fully obliged. I extend my right hand to touch her bum and bosom. She let me do that as long as it does not go too deep. I ask if I can see her pussy to which she says no, but lets me touch it over her knickers. I try to move the fabric to one side. But this effort is thwarted by the tight fitting of her knickers. Oh well.

Being conscious of time, I decide to unleash my load. She gently squeezes out the last remaining liquid, cleans me up, and gives me an affectionate hug, signaling this is THE END.

Total damage: 100K body massage + 300K tip. (away too much! )

Remember free foot massage I mentioned in the beginning? My next report will be about that which develops into a rather unexpected event.Folks,

Fyi. All massages come with happy ending in vietnam. I have yet to go to one that didn't provide happy ending. All inclusive. Never ask "how much"! That is the us style.

The vietnamese guys I talk to say that "what is a massage without the finish"

When I go to these places, I usually ask for a HJ first, then massage, then another HJ at the end.

Good luck

Teazian
01-16-08, 08:31
I usually stay at the Park Hyatt when travelling for business. Their staff are very nice. But very pricey. This time, I was on my own. I can speak vietnamese, not perfect but acceptable.
I have a friend who is running a travel agency and she helps me booking a hotel not far away from Ben Thanh market. Sorry, I can't mention the hotel cos I want to protect their business. Rememeber, we are reading this forum, as well as the cops and local agency.
On the first morning, I went to the Massage salon operating within the hotel. As I had an appointment with my relatives at noon, so I just opted for 1 hour massage. I was escorted to the changing room, and took all my clothes. I was given a boxer short. Then I was guided to a nice room.
The massage session was great. The girl stepped on your back. 15 minutes before the end, she asked whether I wanted massage there. I said yes, she then covered the lower part and did it under-cover.
Cost: 10 USD for 1 hour massage and 200K or 12USD
On the same evening, I went back for 2 hours VIP. I got body massage, foot massage and facial. The whole session was exceptional, except all the girls were working on you so there are no special. Cost 25 USD and 200K or 12 USD tipping the 3 girls.
I came back the following morning, and opted for 1 hour massage. This time, the girl litterally sat on my back, and rub her pussy on leg and thigh.
Then 20 minutes before the end, she asked whether I wanted massage there. She took off my short, didn't bother to cover anything, pour oil on my little brother and worked on it. She let me roaming under her panties, fingering as well.
Cost 10 USD for the massage and 20 USD for tipping.
I'm sure that the girls are ready for take away.
PM me your phone number and I will SMS you the name of the hotel as well as their Web site. No Vietnamese phone number, only overseas phone number. I just want to protect good business from crack down.
By the way, cost of room is 70-80 USD with air con, king size bed, and good wi-fi.

Hardlock1
01-31-08, 21:55
Anyone know exactly where the Superbowl is? What street, or the address?

Thanks

Playsafe
02-02-08, 04:04
Anyone know exactly where the Superbowl is? What street, or the address?

ThanksI posted the address in the General Info section.

Trantastic
03-04-08, 03:03
I'm in Da Lat right now and I was recommended to try Golf3 massage. I'm currently staying at another hotel and what I'm wondering is, do I have to be a patron at their hotel or can I just walk in and ask for a massage at the front desk.

AdHome01
03-05-08, 00:28
I'm in Da Lat right now and I was recommended to try Golf3 massage. I'm currently staying at another hotel and what I'm wondering is, do I have to be a patron at their hotel or can I just walk in and ask for a massage at the front desk.You do not have to be a patron, just ask at the front desk.

Russell Crowe
03-16-08, 10:27
I decided to check out the massage parlor scene and wandered over to the Sachi Spa. It is in an alleyway off of Dong Du. I echo what has been said before, it has no private rooms, what they have are like bathroom stalls almost with partitions that don't go all the way to the floor or ceiling.

The whole experience was awful. The girl gave me shorts to wear and when I said I didn't want to wear them, she did what all Asians seem to do when they don't want a confrontation, just smiled and walked away.
So, I put the shorts on, no big deal. She came back and proceeded to give me a decent massage for about 20 minutes.

Then, she hands me off to another girl. It must be an arrangement where the girl I had didn't do extras, so she passed me along to one that did. Anyway, about two minutes in she starts placing my hand on her tits and asking me if I want extras. She wasn't specific about what, but I was not assuming sex given the room situation.

Contrary to what I had read earlier, she starts asking me how much I will pay. From what I read, a handjob is normally part of the routine and you tip around 200,000. She starts at 800,000 and I had to suppress a laugh. I said I would pay 200,000 and she starts calling me cheap. I am cheap, but more than anything I don't like getting ripped off.

She then comes down to 500,000 and I tell her no, I will just take a massage at this point. Of course, this has now made the mood somewhat hostile since she has called me cheap several times. She continued to give me a crappy massage while trying to convince me to pay her price.

She then pulls down my shorts and comes down to 300,000. I really just wanted to get out of there at that point, but in order to keep the peace I said OK, 300, even though I know I am still overpaying. She then gave me a pretty crappy hand job. I took my wallet with me to take a quick shower and then started to leave.

Something that pissed me off was that on the way out, she brings back the girl that massaged me first so that I could tip her as well. If that girl wasn't getting a piece of the 300,000, she is stupid. Anyway, the whole experience felt dirty from start to finish.

Saigon Ican
03-21-08, 20:23
Here's my report on Lido which is the same place that Larry L Lizard went to earlier. The price for entry and a one-hour massage is 100, 000 if you come before noon, I forget how much it is after noon. This comes with a free foot massage although you will be expected to leave a separate tip for it. Obviously, you don't have to take the foot massage if you don't actually want one.

The girl I got was perhaps a 7, slightly chubby for an Asian girl. Nonetheless, she knew what to do to turn negotiation in her favor. So when it came time, she asked, I said yes, and then she asked how much. Of course, her first offer was something like 500, 000, a ridiculous sum to pay for 15 minutes of work in Vietnam. Yet there is probably somebody not knowing any better who will pay that much every once in awhile.

After explaining how often I get massages and how often I usually pay I still was only able to get her down to 160, 000. Afterwords, she complained some and asked for more but in the end she also told me to come back and ask for her by name/number and that she would go for the same price next time.

Total damage here was 260, 000. Let them know you've been here awhile, you'll be here a while, and you know what the local prices are.

Vnwood
04-01-08, 18:50
Hey guys,

I was introduced to this board by a very distinguished member here. I am relatively new to Vietnam, but have a few experiences.

Does anyone know the address to Vien Dong Massage? I have RTFF and have only read some mention of it, but no real report and location. It is supposed to be popular with the locals. I am white, so would I be accepted?

Would love to report back on my findings. Thanks.

El Frances
04-02-08, 10:59
She then pulls down my shorts and comes down to 300,000. I really just wanted to get out of there at that point, but in order to keep the peace I said OK, 300, even though I know I am still overpaying. She then gave me a pretty crappy hand job. I took my wallet with me to take a quick shower and then started to leave.



My experience is that when the girl insists too long time for getting high price, she usually also gives a bad handjob! Anyway, there is no contract signed! bad service = bad tip!
I remember once a massage girl got me crazy at Bongsen Hotel. First, she gave me a poor massage. Secondly, she got me nervous insisting on getting a too high price. It was similar as with you. Finally, getting tired I agreed for less than she wanted, but more than what I should pay. Of course, she gave me a quickie without trying in any way to provide a good service. Finally, she left me alone 5mn to answer her mobile phone. I was so upset that I went out of the room by myself while she was phoning. When I went to the counter to pay my massage she was looking what I put in the "tip" line, and I just put 0!

Sometimes it's better to take another massage than to stay with a girl who you feel she considers you as a sucker!

Whisper1
04-02-08, 15:42
Hey guys,

I was introduced to this board by a very distinguished member here. I am relatively new to Vietnam, but have a few experiences.

Does anyone know the address to Vien Dong Massage? I have RTFF and have only read some mention of it, but no real report and location. It is supposed to be popular with the locals. I am white, so would I be accepted?

Would love to report back on my findings. Thanks.


Vien Dong is on Pham Ngu Lao street but I forgot the number. If you are heading from the Ben Thanh market, it will be on your left hand side after De Tham Street.

Vnwood
04-02-08, 16:11
Vien Dong is on Pham Ngu Lao street but I forgot the number. If you are heading from the Ben Thanh market, it will be on your left hand side after De Tham Street.Thanks a lot Whisper, should be easy enough to find. Does any one know price structure or services offered?

Berty Russ
04-03-08, 17:18
Do they give you a plastic bag there for your valuables to carry with you? At a 4-5 star hotel I usually don't worry, but at other places I like to keep my valuables in hand. The Vien Dong, by the way, gives you a bag. The major drawback with the VD (which is generally a nicely run place) is that the girls seldom know how to give a decent massage. If it were baseball, they would be closers only.

Thanks,

BR

Whisper1
04-04-08, 18:25
Thanks a lot Whisper, should be easy enough to find. Does any one know price structure or services offered?

Massages at Vien Dong is 100K for an hour. If you go before 4pm, you get an hour and a half. I haven't been there in awhile so I don't remember if they still have that promotion.
Most girls only do HJ there, once in awhile, you'll find a gril who will give you a BJ. I usually tip 100k -150k depending on the girl. If she gives me a BJ, then I give her 200K.

Vnwood
04-05-08, 16:48
Hey all, thanks for the feed back on Vien Dong. Through your reports about VN, I decided to check out another place outside of D1. A fellow distinguished member of another forum hooked me up with the address and # of the girl. WOW. The BEST massage I have ever had in Vietnam to date.

First off, it is in Thu Duc, so is a little way out (up to 1 hr), but the number of foreigners going there are fewer. Got the VIP room 100K. Small locker inside room. As soon as the guy escorted me to my room and left, the girl walked in. She undressed me in a very explorative manor.

She put me in the steam room for a while, its ok. I like the lemon grass smell, but not much into steam. Besides, we were waiting for the bath tub to fill up. She pulled me out of the steam room and into the tub. From there, she washed every part of me, paying very particular attention to my tool and ass. Very methodical and not rushed.

From the start she had a great bubbly attitude for the cute 24y/o. After a thorough washing/bath/shampoo. On came my shorts. She was also wearing loosely fitted clothing, not as nice looking as the teases in D1, but MUCH more accommodating.

A lot more playing and on my front I go. She did the rub/pounding routine. Not bad, but not great. On the flip, she asked if I wanted a BJ. I said yes. She said 400K. I then said 200K. Only did that 2X and she happily agreed with 200K once I told her I knew the price. She just told me no CIM. Agreed and went on.

Up came her top and unhooked her bra. She preceded to give me a tongue bath. A real life, wet tongue bath. From the neck to the nips to the shaft. And she was highly encouraging me to do the same to her. She starts the BBBJ, then lifts up my legs and tosses my salad. WOW. I have never had such a professional job at this. She went on to alternate BBBJ, tossing the salad. I couldn't believe she was so energetic while giving me the "TUMA". All while this is happening, her leg was lifted up on the table giving me very easy access to finger her and DATY.

Then she breaks out the baby oil and lubed up her chest. Nice oiled B cup with her hands squeezing them sent me over the top. From there, she started the clean up routine, first washing herself then a light massage on me. We talked for while and gave me her number.

Over all, the place is not geared for westerners as the decor and cleanliness is local style. However, great service, wonderful attitude, and a unique way about pleasing her clients, I give this place a 9. 5. (only because it was not a classy place and there was a bunch of teenagers (10) without shirts waiting in the lobby and staring at me as I left. Total damage was 100K house + 200K tip = 300K not including taxi (100K one way from D1). 500K total. Not bad in my mind for a little over $30 USD.

As a side note, this gal is really into DFK. I am not, but if that is your thing. Its all you can eat.

Ok, there is an on going debate on this board about how much info should be given. The gal was very free and open, however still constantly checking at the window. I am not sure if LE would try to do something, but if you want the Name, Address, telephone, and girls number, please PM me and I would gladly give it to you.

I am not sure if only this one girl gives this service, or the whole place does. Also, if more is available on the menu for repeats. Guess that we will just have to find out.

Ajashi
04-09-08, 09:57
Hey all, thanks for the feed back on Vien Dong. Through your reports about VN, I decided to check out another place outside of D1. A fellow distinguished member of another forum hooked me up with the address and # of the girl. WOW. The BEST massage I have ever had in Vietnam to date.

First off, it is in Thu Duc, so is a little way out (up to 1 hr), but the number of foreigners going there are fewer. Got the VIP room 100K. Small locker inside room. As soon as the guy escorted me to my room and left, the girl walked in. She undressed me in a very explorative manor.

She put me in the steam room for a while, its ok. I like the lemon grass smell, but not much into steam. Besides, we were waiting for the bath tub to fill up. She pulled me out of the steam room and into the tub. From there, she washed every part of me, paying very particular attention to my tool and ass. Very methodical and not rushed.

From the start she had a great bubbly attitude for the cute 24y/o. After a thorough washing/bath/shampoo. On came my shorts. She was also wearing loosely fitted clothing, not as nice looking as the teases in D1, but MUCH more accommodating.

A lot more playing and on my front I go. She did the rub/pounding routine. Not bad, but not great. On the flip, she asked if I wanted a BJ. I said yes. She said 400K. I then said 200K. Only did that 2X and she happily agreed with 200K once I told her I knew the price. She just told me no CIM. Agreed and went on.

Up came her top and unhooked her bra. She preceded to give me a tongue bath. A real life, wet tongue bath. From the neck to the nips to the shaft. And she was highly encouraging me to do the same to her. She starts the BBBJ, then lifts up my legs and tosses my salad. WOW. I have never had such a professional job at this. She went on to alternate BBBJ, tossing the salad. I couldn't believe she was so energetic while giving me the "TUMA". All while this is happening, her leg was lifted up on the table giving me very easy access to finger her and DATY.

Then she breaks out the baby oil and lubed up her chest. Nice oiled B cup with her hands squeezing them sent me over the top. From there, she started the clean up routine, first washing herself then a light massage on me. We talked for while and gave me her number.

Over all, the place is not geared for westerners as the decor and cleanliness is local style. However, great service, wonderful attitude, and a unique way about pleasing her clients, I give this place a 9. 5. (only because it was not a classy place and there was a bunch of teenagers (10) without shirts waiting in the lobby and staring at me as I left. Total damage was 100K house + 200K tip = 300K not including taxi (100K one way from D1). 500K total. Not bad in my mind for a little over $30 USD.

As a side note, this gal is really into DFK. I am not, but if that is your thing. Its all you can eat.

Ok, there is an on going debate on this board about how much info should be given. The gal was very free and open, however still constantly checking at the window. I am not sure if LE would try to do something, but if you want the Name, Address, telephone, and girls number, please PM me and I would gladly give it to you.

I am not sure if only this one girl gives this service, or the whole place does. Also, if more is available on the menu for repeats. Guess that we will just have to find out.SOunds great, could you enlighten us on the name and address or if you prefer PM me the details of her? ;-)

Thanks

Vnwood
04-10-08, 08:33
I have gotten a lot of responses back requesting the address, so I thought I would also give an update. (PM me for the info.)

Been back a couple times and checked out different girls. It seems that the tongue bath is pretty much their signature move at this place with all the girls. All else varies with the provider. I only experienced the salad toss and titty job with one girl. However, another one was CIM and a much better massage / better looking.

Had the chance to see a lot of the girls in there, most of them are normal / average lookers, (except one that I found and experienced). I even told one girl to leave because we didn't hit it off right away in the same magic that I experienced before. Glad I did.

Its worth a try at least once. Friendly staff and the more I went, the place didn't look that bad.

Happy hunting and I look forward to those reports.

Fw190
04-10-08, 22:49
Padlock your trousers to show sex is off-limits, Indonesian tourist town tells its masseuses
The Daily Mail (UK), 10th April 2008

Massage parlours in an Indonesian town are asking their female masseuses to padlock their skirts and trousers to make it clear that sex is not on offer.

But the move provoked a protest from the minister for women's affairs in Indonesia, where massage parlours are often a front for prostitution.

"It is not the right way to prevent promiscuity," Meutia Swasono said. "It insults women ... as if they are the ones in the wrong."

Ms Swasono said CCTV was the best way to safeguard women workers in the parlours.

At least one parlour in the tourist town of Batu on Java island has required its masseuses to padlock their skirts or trousers to make it clear that the establishment does not tolerate prostitution.

Others in the town started following suit after local officials suggested it was a good idea at a recent meeting with massage parlour owners.

The Jakarta Post, which quoted Ms Swasono, also showed a photograph of a masseuse with a padlock on the waist band of her trousers and said the local administration's move was aimed at curbing prostitution and maintaining Batu's image as a popular tourist destination.

"The padlocking phenomena has been seen at various parlors and it is something we like," said Imam Suryono, the head of Batu's public order authority.

He denied media reports that he had formally ordered masseuses to wear padlocks.

Batu, 75 km (46 miles) south of Indonesia's second-biggest city, Surabaya, is a popular tourist destination for its cool climate, hot springs and mountain scenery.

Indonesia has a flourishing sex industry and massage parlours are frequently a front for prostitution. But there has been a vigorous debate over morality in recent years, exposing deep divisions in the Southeast Asian Muslim-majority nation.

Last month, Indonesia passed a bill to restrict access to pornographic and violent sites on the internet, while its parliament has yet to pass a controversial pornography bill that aims to shield the young from pornographic material and lewd acts.

Earlier draft versions contained provisions that could jail people for kissing in public and criminalise many forms of art or traditional culture that hinge on sensuality.

Asia Tourist
04-13-08, 12:02
Here if my field report for Sachi and Lido:

1. Sachi Spa. Same story as others, I was not impressed. I had forgotten about reading about Sachi in the forum and was called in by a reasonably looking young woman. "Okay, how bad can it be? " was my initial reaction. First problem, the room is a joke, if you can even call it a room. Basically it's a large room upstairs (climbing a ladder, not really stairs) and there are booths with open air above and below. Think a men's restroom where the toilets are, a bunch of handicap stalls next to each other. At this point I'm not even thinking of mongering, the girl is cute and gives a decent massage, but after 20 mins says "how much you pay me. " She started at 800, 000 and I really laughed out loud. This was a problem because other people were getting massages and could hear us! I tried to call the whole thing off because it wasn't really a good setup, but to make a long story short I ended up paying 300, 000 and got it over with, HJ wasn't even that great. So I echo the sentiment, Sachi is awful, avoid at all cost. Setup sucks, you don't get a decent massage, girls are annoyingly pushy. Oh as a price point I did ask about BBBJ but it started the whole 800, 000 negotiation over again so I got bored.

2. Lido. Food massage was actually really good haha. After a quick steam shower (a bit dingy but got the job done), you go to a relaxation area where they had a TV with no sound. There was some fat Japanese dude snoring next to me which kinda sucked, but the foot massage was good, cute young girl, about an 8. I still think the Thais do it best but this was a close 2nd.

The main massage, however, was just awful. I don't know if this is just a Vietnam thing, but the massages are very sharp and painful, kinda like the girl is using her thumb and middle finger as pincers on your pressure points. Hell, maybe it's supposed to be relaxing but it was painful, esp. Since this girl has smaller hands and couldn't really get to the muscle so she was just pinching flab. Ouch! I also think this girl thought applying pressure against the massage table (standing, pushing, poking, etc.) was relaxing no matter how hard. The massage sucked, it was painful and I coudn't really communicate, and in the end I wasn't even in the mood for a HJ. Sucked, next time I'm going to ask for a light oil massage and go straight to the fun, forget the stupid massage.

Haven't gotten around to Viet Dong but that's right down the street from Lido so it's convenient, that's next.

Anyone has more price points for BBBJ or if it's allowed (a bit weird since there are windows in the doors where people can look in).

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Hardlock1
04-20-08, 14:47
As planned, I spent the month of February in Ho Chi Minh City in the Phu Nhuan District. Family home is there. Hard to get away from a wife and three sisters and one housemaid always watching and doing everything possible to tie me down. But, since I got my back hurt there in Vietnam during the way, my wife is a kind soul when it comes to massages. LOL Thank God for small favors. So, thereupon one afternoon I announced I was going for a massage due to severe back pain (true). Up on Nguyen Khem Street right next to the Saigon Co-op market is a Hotel called Thanh Nghia, and on the 6th floor is a Massage Parlor. That is where I went. Upon walking in the door of the hotel and heading toward the elevator, I spied a young lady sitting on a bench waiting for who-knows-what. As I pushed the elevator up-button, she jumped up and approached me, asking if I was going for a Massage. I replied in the affirmative and she immediately asked me if I would like her to give me a massage. I looked her over, and trust me, she was a treasure! So I agreed and up we went together.

Now! When we got upstairs, she started trying to convince the manager of the parlor to allow her to massage me! At first he wasnt buying it, and from my limited Vietnamese, I came to understand that she worked in the hotel, but not in the massage parlor! Oh my word! He finally agreed, and off to the showers I went. Upon entering the room, in she came. Her name was K. U. Thats all I will say. The massage was very professional, including walking on my back, then a very professional back snap! My back pain went away immediately, and I knew she had some professional massage training. That alone made it all worth while. It is amazing what being an American will do to women in Vietnam. I think this girl K. You wanted to marry me! Pity. She was more than beautiful, 27 years old and Madonna face and Model body.

On the flip, she started to play with Junior and the Boys (grin) and I immediately hit her up for full service. Noooooooo, hell no, she was afraid. So I hit her up for BJ, and she said no. But, she kept stopping massaging me to give me hugs! Over and over, she would stop massaging me and just hug me and whisper in my ear "Yeu them nhieu lam". I love you! Niceeeeeeee! Sweet! Finally, she agreed to give me what I wanted for 400, 000, and I gladly agreed, accepted, and received! My Gosh! For this girl, I would have agreed to let her do that in the middle of Le Loi Circle at noon, with the whole world doing a video!

When I was leaving, she came outside with me and begged me to come back! I agreed, whereupon I failed to get her home number. Stupid. Two days later, I went back and the whole staff of the Massage Parlor acted dumb and mute, and claimed not to know her! Imagine that! I went back 3 more times, but never saw her again. LOL My wife asked me how the massage was, and I told her the truth! I told her it was awesome! And effective! Then, she asked me if any extras were offered by the girl, and I told her that no, Thanh Nghia doesnt allow that, and that there is glass in the doors to stop any of that stuff going on. She is comfortable with me going there for a Massage now. 70, 000 for the massage, and any extras negotiated around 200, 000 to 400, 000 but don't count on getting the same as me. However, I will say that the girl staff there are very, very good looking! Have a shot at it fellas and let us know here how you find it!

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Joe Capitano
06-11-08, 08:23
Yes, I am going to Ho Chi minh in few weeks and I was exactly looking for a nice place like described. How can I find it Please?


SOunds great, could you enlighten us on the name and address or if you prefer PM me the details of her? ;-)

Thanks

Vkuc1
06-19-08, 17:35
For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.

120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.

You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.

So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.

Playsafe
06-25-08, 12:05
For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.

120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.

You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.

So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.It's one of the best, if not the best, massage I've ever had in VN.

It's actually on Nguyen Binh Khiem, SW of Nguyen Thi Minh Khai. From Pham Ngu Lao, take Cach Mang Thang 8, Nguyen Thi Minh Khai, turn right, Nguyen Binh Khiem, turn left. Request for Truc, #12. She was great.

OzzieSuds
06-29-08, 11:02
For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.

120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.

You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.

So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.

In most of these place the girls get nothing or very little salary so what they get in tips is it. So you should tip them what the house charges and maybe more.

If you read my posts I am not keen on overpaying but this is for real!

OzzieSuds
07-01-08, 07:23
This is a football and tennis facility with a hotel, restaurants, pool and sauna/massage all on the same premises. Off Highway 50 way past Phu My Hung it is about VND120 k for a taxi from town. I had a project near here and it was the only decent place to eat.

Address is: Xã Phong Phú, Huyện Bình Chánh

The massage area has about 10 rooms and you seem to have to choose between sauna or steambath (where your head is outside) and everything is in the room including a wardrobe for your clothes. Appears to be about 20 girls and not much english spoken by staff or girls. Visually they look OK - even in daylight.

You take sauna while the girl runs big spa bath and you then get out and into bath where she very carefully bathes you all over. She stays dressed in skirt and top and bathes you from behind so groping is hard.

Then it is onto the massage table for a regular massage (I refused the shorts) and flip over for HJ service which is when you can have a feel around. The room is closed except for small window in door but the gal still seemed pretty edgy.

Damage was VND100k for house (plus extra for beers) and I tipped gal VND200k in order to make an impression and be remembered if I ever went back.

If you find one that speaks english I am sure that more can be had in hotel which is about $15 per night.

This road also has a lot of Hot Toc places that light up at night but I never bothered because they have no english at all.

Playsafe
07-02-08, 05:02
In most of these place the girls get nothing or very little salary so what they get in tips is it. So you should tip them what the house charges and maybe more.

If you read my posts I am not keen on overpaying but this is for real!I think for the regular massages, 100k tip is about right. I would pay 150k for a HJ & 200k for BJ. That's pretty average tip. If the service is really great then I would pay 250k-300k.

Fw190
07-04-08, 14:50
Does any of you living in Saigon have any info on cost of living? As Sudoz said, I want to be fair when I'm tipping, and I'm curious because of what I'm hearing about tremendous inflation there: around 25% annually, and up to 45% for food. Specifically, does anyone have any info on what the average weekly or monthly wage in the city is? Or what the average weekly or monthly earnings are for a gal who works in a "rub and tug" place?




I think for the regular massages, 100k tip is about right. I would pay 150k for a HJ & 200k for BJ. That's pretty average tip. If the service is really great then I would pay 250k-300k.

OzzieSuds
07-05-08, 01:34
Does any of you living in Saigon have any info on cost of living? As Sudoz said, I want to be fair when I'm tipping, and I'm curious because of what I'm hearing about tremendous inflation there: around 25% annually, and up to 45% for food. Specifically, does anyone have any info on what the average weekly or monthly wage in the city is? Or what the average weekly or monthly earnings are for a gal who works in a "rub and tug" place?

At the regular haircut/shampoo/massage places the girls do not normally get a salary at all and are dependent on tips entirely. The only person who get a wage/retainer is the haircutter.

A regular girl with a good job (e.g. office manager with a degree in english) will make about US$1000 per month and my understanding is that at that level they pay very little tax.

Mash Potatoes
07-06-08, 05:05
Does any of you living in Saigon have any info on cost of living? Specifically, does anyone have any info on what the average weekly or monthly wage in the city is? Or what the average weekly or monthly earnings are for a gal who works in a "rub and tug" place?Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.

The exception here is off course, girls who work in the 'pleasure' industry. Take out the freelancers and you will find that the majority of the other girls work on 'commission/tips' only basis. I met a girl at a massage palour and she said that she received no wages and relied solely on the generosity of the customers, the palour even 'fined' her for taking more than 3 days off per month. On a good month she said she could pull together US$250. Hence if she needed more finance then she would arrange for some 'outside' work.

It's a fine line. Tipping too much will spoil the market, but then too little is offensive/degrading.

Whisper1
07-07-08, 01:36
The exception here is off course, girls who work in the 'pleasure' industry. Take out the freelancers and you will find that the majority of the other girls work on 'commission/tips' only basis. I met a girl at a massage palour and she said that she received no wages and relied solely on the generosity of the customers, the palour even 'fined' her for taking more than 3 days off per month. On a good month she said she could pull together US$250. Hence if she needed more finance then she would arrange for some 'outside' work.

It's a fine line. Tipping too much will spoil the market, but then too little is offensive/degrading.

The girls in vietnam often lie about how much they make to their customers in order for us to give them more then the average amount. For example, if you take a girl at Vien Dong massage, she makes about 100,000 per customer with no extras. On average, she has 3 customers a day. Already, she is making 3,000,000 a month without doing anything extra. Imagine how much she makes with just a handjob to every customer.

El Frances
07-07-08, 21:10
Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.
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Where do these estimates come from ?

Mash Potatoes
07-08-08, 07:15
Where do these estimates come from ?Are they too Low or too High?

This is approx what I pay my staff.

Fw190
07-08-08, 12:20
Thanks guys for the info on wages and cost of living. Very helpful. Just FYI, the reason I asked is because I want to send some money regularly to a young lady I met at a Saigon "rub and tug" place. Her place recently closed and she's out of work now.

Now I can imagine all you cynical VN old-timers getting ready to flame me. :-) But this one is a little different, I think. I've known her now for more than a year and get great massages and nice conversation whenever I visit Saigon two or three times a year. I've never laid a hand on her, and she has never offered. She's from the Mekong Delta, is 25, single, and is working to send money home to her parents (her siblings are all older, married, and don't help the parents). Very intelligent gal, responsible and honest, sweet personality, wants to go to school to improve her English, and definitely not a WG. Oh, and did I mention that she's 9 out of 10? She's going to make a great catch for a rich VN guy someday. Anyway, I think she's one of the many attractive, nice young people in VN who don't have Party connections or rich families, or didn't get the chance to go to university, etc., and so will have a tough time in a tough economy in a tough society. So I want to help out a little. The info on wages is very helpful in figuring out how much is right. Thanks all!


Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.

OzzieSuds
07-08-08, 16:43
Thanks guys for the info on wages and cost of living. Very helpful. Just FYI, the reason I asked is because I want to send some money regularly to a young lady I met at a Saigon "rub and tug" place. Her place recently closed and she's out of work now.

Now I can imagine all you cynical VN old-timers getting ready to flame me. :-) But this one is a little different, I think. I've known her now for more than a year and get great massages and nice conversation whenever I visit Saigon two or three times a year. I've never laid a hand on her, and she has never offered. She's from the Mekong Delta, is 25, single, and is working to send money home to her parents (her siblings are all older, married, and don't help the parents). Very intelligent gal, responsible and honest, sweet personality, wants to go to school to improve her English, and definitely not a WG. Oh, and did I mention that she's 9 out of 10? She's going to make a great catch for a rich VN guy someday. Anyway, I think she's one of the many attractive, nice young people in VN who don't have Party connections or rich families, or didn't get the chance to go to university, etc., and so will have a tough time in a tough economy in a tough society. So I want to help out a little. The info on wages is very helpful in figuring out how much is right. Thanks all!

I think that I should remind you of the first rule of financial survival in these places.

The first rule is that I never never ever send money to a gal I met in a bar (or similar).

I am happy to donate to the cause when I am there but never send it. When they ask me why - it causes too many complications. 'nuff said.

Fw190
07-09-08, 12:30
Sudsoz, on second thought, I realize that you are absolutely right! I can imagine all kinds of complications with sending money from me in the US to her in VN. Much better to "donate to the cause" whenever I'm there, which fortunately is at least a couple times a year. Many thanks for your good insight, as always.


I think that I should remind you of the first rule of financial survival in these places.

The first rule is that I never never ever send money to a gal I met in a bar (or similar).

I am happy to donate to the cause when I am there but never send it. When they ask me why - it causes too many complications. 'nuff said.

Mash Potatoes
07-09-08, 12:43
Sudsoz, on second thought, I realize that you are absolutely right! I can imagine all kinds of complications with sending money from me in the US to her in VN. Much better to "donate to the cause" whenever I'm there, which fortunately is at least a couple times a year. Many thanks for your good insight, as always.We've all done some pretty silly things in the pursuit of girls. I'm sure we've all been in situations were we've acted irrationally and with hindsight probably be totally bewildered by our own actions. I.e.. how many times have you walked into a 'dodgy' hotel in pursuit, or left your clothes unattended, or paid upfront, or overpaid.

I think when it comes to the thrill of the chase or the high of the moment, then rational goes out the window.

El Frances
07-10-08, 19:27
Are they too Low or too High?

This is approx what I pay my staff.

hmmm! I tried to find reliable statistics and did not find any. Only that low-skilled factory workers still get lower wages than China (i.e. around 800 K).

Saigon Ican
07-11-08, 20:33
I think for the regular massages, 100k tip is about right. I would pay 150k for a HJ & 200k for BJ. That's pretty average tip. If the service is really great then I would pay 250k-300k.I often tip 100, 000 without any complaints. The other day though I gave a girl 150, 000 but she just automatically assumed that 50, 000 was for the shop. I didn't complain. So 100, 000 was more than enough for her. She and probably every other massage girl in the city live in similar conditions and have similar budgets. So why do some expect 200, 000 and others only 100, 000. My point is that they're all doing the same work and should realize that other girls are doing the same work for half the money.

Saigon Ican
07-11-08, 20:43
Cost of living in saigon has gone up, no doubt about it. BUT relatively so have wages. (Local) Office workers mid level have seen wages go up as well as low level earners I. E. Wait staff, attendants etc. So 25% inflation yes, but also wages have increased. General estimate: Shop assistants US$150pm, Waiters US$100pm, low level admin US$250pm, mid level admin US$500 so on.
Most of the waitstaff at restaurants that I've talked to make less than 1.5 million, $70-80.

Newbie From Vza
09-09-08, 21:47
Hi Guys,

I am an Indian and I happened to work in HCMC for about a year last year (April 07 to Jan 08). I experienced MP for the first time in HCMC.

I would like to describe the various Spa / MP I visited.

1. Regency Hotel, 206 Ba Thang Hai Street, Dist 10

The ambiance is first rate. They charge USD25 for the total package. It includes Sauna, Steam baths, Jacuzzi (hot and cold), facial, hair cut, foot massage, full body massage, manicure and pedicure. Ofcourse we have to tip for each provider. (100K for the full body massage and 50K for the other services) In the sauna / steam / Jacuzzi area, the one thing I did not like is the bathing space. Its open and I saw everybody taking shower in full nude. Being an Indian I could not do so and took my shower in a trunk provided by the place. After we finished experiencing all the services, we took a nap in the relaxing area. We were given a use and throw tooth brush, paste in the morning to freshen up and took bath and they provided breakfast too.

No extras in massage. Straight forward, professional. We can go there after dinner and stay there till morning.

2. Minh Tanh Hotel, Near War Musium, or the street across MGM, Dist 1

I liked this place so much that I was visiting this place almost twice a week (in addition to other MPs). No restriction on time spent in Sauna, Steam and Jacuzzi. I used to spend about 2-3 hrs per visit. Then while we wait in the relaxing area, they provide some fruits and bottled water. In about 10 to 15 minutes we will be escorted to the massage cabins which were good. The Hotel charges 120K for the full body massage and 60K for the foot massage (sauna, steam, Jacuzzi are included) In about a year long visits, I was massaged twice by the same girl only twice. They get new girls regularly and all of them are beautiful. Only HJ is allowed.

Here I made a habit of controlling the time. I sit in Sauna for 20 min straight, and when I can not bear it anymore, I take a warm water shower usually for 15 min. Then come back to steam bath sit for another 10-20 min. Then take warm water shower for another 10-20 min to let the body cool off slowly and then relax in Jacuzzi for not less than 30 min. The water is usually room temp. When I feel I should take massage I take a cold shower to make the body completely cool. It takes about 30 min. Then I feel fresh and not sweating anymore. I did this from a health point and reduced my weight by 12 Kg in 3 months. Please note: Don’t take cold shower immediately after coming out of Sauna or Steam bath as it will cool your body immediately from outside while your bones are still hot. This will disturb the harmony of the body. The reason I take cold shower before proceeding to massage is to cool my body completely to the bone and not sweat as I feel we should be fresh before massage. The Hotel is changing girls regularly, and I never encountered the same girl twice. Overall they are very friendly and give good HJ. Tips about 200K. Most of the time they demand more but settle for 200K.

3. Saigon Hotel, Infront of Sheraton Hotel, Dist 1

They have refurbished the steam/ sauna bath recently. They have a cozy Jacuzzi. A small one for one person. I was fortunate that when ever I visited, I was alone in Jacuzzi for as long as I wished. They charge USD. 10 for one hour massage (Ofcourse sauna, steam, Jacuzzi are included). There is no relaxing area and you will be escorted to the massage cabins immediately (by one of the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in Vietnam) Massage is usual. HJ costs 200K. Most of the time they demand USD50 but they settle for 200K.

4. Ngoc Anh (as described in the earlier posts by others) Dist 1

It is by far the best massage I ever received. The flip side is the Steam, Sauna are small and very much crowded. I had to wait for 15 min just to enter Sauna. Somehow I did not like their Jacuzzi and the shower area. But the massage is the best with hot stones. The ladies are usually in their 30s and very professional. There is no extras. They charge 100K and 100K tip to the lady.

5. Two other non descript MPs in Tan Binh Dist:

These places are a not clean, massage not satisfactory but cheap. I only visited them out of curiosity to know how MPs are in places other than Dist 1. They are for locals only and everybody as watching me curiously while I was there. In one MP the girl accepted for a BBBJ without CIM for 200K. But it was not very professional. The girls are happy with 100K for HJ.

6. Dance bar girl: From Gossip.

The first time I went to Gossip was in April 07 (before they closed for some time) and then they were charging USD. 5 for entry on weekends. My friend was fuming as no other establishment was charging money just for entry. (They say a drink was free). Well the girls there are strikingly beautiful. I was dancing with a beautiful girl may be 5’6" flat belly but big tits fat thighs. She asked me whether she can come with me to my room. She offered for USD. 100. As I was a novice, after consulting with my friend, agreed. I was not sure what I will do with her and after reaching home on her bike, I told her I am not interested in Bom bom. She gave me BBBJ and after shower we were lying on bed in each others arms chatting and after some time as I was feeling the urge down below. She sensed it and again went down to take care of the tension. Again a BBBJ and we went back to sleep. Early in the morning when I was feeling cozy, she again gave me a BBBJ. I told her she has to leave as my friends may be coming over. She understood and left immediately. Very thourough professional!

In the morning after the effects of the last night’s high was out, my friend gave me some valuable advise. Not to bring any girl home and never pay anygirl more than USD. 40 max. But it happened casually and the girl was also nice so no probs.

Over all my stay in Vietnam was a very happy one. People are very friendly and want to know more about outside world. Their hunger to learn English was anormous. Very very hard working people and I prefer to go to HCMC over Bangkok if chance comes by.

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Centaurus
09-10-08, 14:40
Please note: Don’t take cold shower immediately after coming out of Sauna or Steam bath as it will cool your body immediately from outside while your bones are still hot. This will disturb the harmony of the body. Thanks for the report, NFV!

Quick comment to your note:

Common wisdom in Finland (the gurus for dry sauna) is that you should indeed take a very very cold shower immediately after leaving a sauna (especially if you stay in there for 20 mins). The sauna pushes your blood from the inner circle to the outer circle, and the cold bath pushes it back from your extremities into the inner bloodcircle.

I find the feeling of an icecold shower better that the crappy handjobs they give you in some of these places

Hasta

Centaurus

Wendella
09-10-08, 15:04
In the morning after the effects of the last night’s high was out, my friend gave me some valuable advise. Not to bring any girl home and never pay anygirl more than USD. 40 max. But it happened casually and the girl was also nice so no probs.


Great report. Thanks.

I'm not sure I agree with your friend - the rates for girls are higher in those discos, for sure. What she offered to go for is what I've heard is the going rate these days in discos. Maybe someone else knows better than myself, but I have never heard that it's possible to get a girl at a disco for as low as just $40. Maybe you could negotiate something a little lower, can only try, but I very much doubt you could get her down to just $40. Also, Gossip is perhaps the highest priced disco in HCMC, so...

I also don't understand why your friend said never to bring a girl back, because that's very commonly done here. '

Hardlock1
09-11-08, 15:30
Hi All,

I have a question for some of you guys who live there in HCM or go there quite often. Maybe Wendella or Sudsoz will know. A Viet-Kieu friend of mine who goes there a couple of times a year told me about a couple of places there in HCM called Le Duyen. I know that Le Duyen II is downtown in District 1 on Cong Quynh Street. Now, my friend told me that the usual High-Class services can be had there, including haircut, facials, foot massage and body massage. My question is, do any of you guys know it, and exactly what services are offered? I shall be back for 5 weeks in January and Febrauary next year, and I would be interested in knowing what I can expect beforehand.

According to my Viet-Kieu friend, depending on the girl, you can go as far as possible (pun intended). LOL Of course, I don't know if that has something to do with being Vietnamese, or speaking the language, or just money. So please guys, someone let me know if you have any knowledge of those places.

Thanks,

H

Mash Potatoes
09-12-08, 12:51
In regards to Le Duyen:

I happened to frequent a similar establishment today. There are plenty around town disguised in different names which basically all follow a similar formula. And that is.

Walk in, greeted by half a dozen of the sexiest girls you'll see, pick one, choose the service you want (hair wash, face wash, manicure/pedicure, ear clean, foot massage, body massage) and then proceed to a room.

Now this room will be used by 3 to 5 other customers who are receiving various services. So there goes any extra services. And that's just the point. These places ARE NOT for extra services. These places are for relaxation and if the conversation goes right then a follow up date OUTSIDE the girls working hours.

You might get a stray girl who needs the money desperately, who will go against rules and sneak in a sly service when the room is empty, but if there are other customers around then no chance of anything else but the services above.

All in All not a waste of time if can manage to get the girls number for a follow up, but certainly if you are looking for instant action.

Mash

Newbie From Vza
09-14-08, 23:12
Now that I am a member of ISG and reading reports regularly, I curse myself for not knowing ISG two years back. I curse myself for all the action I missed. Though had intension, money, and opportunity, simply I could not experience many of the exciting things just because, I don’t know where to look and what to expect.

The places described below as Le Duyen are actually called Hot Toc places or Hair Dressing Saloons. During one conversation, my friends said they visited a Saloon, where they offer extra services. I felt embarrassed to ask them the address. Though I vaguely remember the place they were referring to. On the way from An Phu to Dist 1 after you cross the Saigon bridge you reach a big round about. On the left side of the road (some where near the Chinese temple) they visited the Hot Toc. They said the ticket is 50K and extra services are 100K.

Though I was not clear of the address, I tried to find out on my own by foot. I could not locate the place. More over the area is full of locals who were very curious to see me. (They have not seen many Indians though they have seen Europeans) So I got cold feet and returned to An Phu.

Later when I enquired with my Vietnamese friend, he informed me that though there are many Hot Toc in Dist 1, as they are very visible, they don’t offer the extras. Only Hot Tocs out of Dist 1 like Tanh Binh Dist offer such service.

My advise is for you guys interested to explore Tanh Binh Dist, better go there with Vietnamese friends. If it will not help you much, at least it will make you comfortable with the knowledge that, some local friend will make the conversation for you if required.

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Milkweed
09-27-08, 12:28
26-9-2008

Walked here from the backpacker area at Pham Ngu Lao.

Was quoted and paid $10 (paid in dong though) at the door.

Picked the only pretty girl. She looked hard and unhappy. An older woman who spoke English took us to the massage room. She said that a BJ would require an 800, 000 dong tip. I said I would pay 200, 000. She negotiated hard! And we finally settled on $300, 000. She wanted the money up front and I refused.

The service was not good. She gave a substandard HJ until I reminded her of the BJ. Then she gave a toothy BJ for some part of a minute. Then she went back to HJ. I coaxed about another 30 seconds of BJ from her before I just gave up.

I went downstairs and told the boss that I was not happy and wanted another girl. They gave me one, but now they wanted the money up front again. I gave them some of the money up front.

Second girl invited groping (an improvement) but she still mostly gave a HJ. At least she gave a good HJ and it was over pretty quick. Then I was hassled for a tip and refused since the experience was pretty miserable.

I do not recommend this place!

Paid about 500, 000 dong for a (mostly) handjob. Ugh!

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Silly Puppy
10-17-08, 19:23
For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.

120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.

You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.

So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.

I found that foot massage here is much better than in China or anywhere else. You need to have a male for foot massage as female is a little bit weak and can't give enough pressure.

Silly Puppy
10-17-08, 19:27
26-9-2008

Walked here from the backpacker area at Pham Ngu Lao.

Was quoted and paid $10 (paid in dong though) at the door.

Picked the only pretty girl. She looked hard and unhappy. An older woman who spoke English took us to the massage room. She said that a BJ would require an 800, 000 dong tip. I said I would pay 200, 000. She negotiated hard! And we finally settled on $300, 000. She wanted the money up front and I refused.

The service was not good. She gave a substandard HJ until I reminded her of the BJ. Then she gave a toothy BJ for some part of a minute. Then she went back to HJ. I coaxed about another 30 seconds of BJ from her before I just gave up.

I went downstairs and told the boss that I was not happy and wanted another girl. They gave me one, but now they wanted the money up front again. I gave them some of the money up front.

Second girl invited groping (an improvement) but she still mostly gave a HJ. At least she gave a good HJ and it was over pretty quick. Then I was hassled for a tip and refused since the experience was pretty miserable.

I do not recommend this place!

Paid about 500, 000 dong for a (mostly) handjob. Ugh!

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Backpack areas like this are for, may I say, "cheap" foreigners (backpack means "ba lo" in Vetnamese and it has a notorious meaning for being cheap). So coming to these places you normally don't get good service. I always avoid them but understand that you guys don't have time and resources to find out better places. To us, Vietkieu, probably the best place is in coffee shops if you know nobody in VN.

Iamnaughty
11-25-08, 16:36
I was staying in Rex, . And when I came out out of the hotel today a cyclo driver came running back shouted boom boom. Since I wasnt keen, he took me to a massage place in the Rang Dong hotel 1st floor (see their website for more details). Its a decent place. I paid just 150000 Dongs for 1 hour excellent massage. The lady was also cute looking. Finally towards end megotiated 200k for the oily HJ. The cyclo driver was waiting for me outside and took me back to rex I paid him 50k. Overall very good.

Saigon Ican
11-27-08, 18:16
26-9-2008

Walked here from the backpacker area at Pham Ngu Lao.

I do not recommend this place!

Paid about 500, 000 dong for a (mostly) handjob. Ugh!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Wow, Ly Thai To is a pretty far walk from the backpacker district. If HJ is enough for you you don't have to leave the backpacker district and it's a lot cheaper, 100K. for the massage and 100-150K for the tip.

The place you mentioned, the only place I know of on Ly Thai To, has been known to rip off foreigners. I don't think paying more gets you any better service. Just try to act like you know what you're doing and what to expect.

Smartbuy
12-16-08, 10:05
Lets see if this form will correct some out of control attitudes.

I really need it translated into Vietnamese - I figure greedy girls need a reverse lesson . I printing some out now for D1.

It lost formatting - not sure how to add a word form to this post, but here goes:-

Performance Evaluation

Masseuse

Employee’s Name: Girl Number: Date: Time:
I. Customer Liaison
Needs Does Not
Evaluation of Performance Outstanding Satisfactory Improvement Meet

A. Overall, pleasing customer service 0 0 0 0

B. Does not destroy the mood by aggressive
tip pleading and whining. 0 0 0 0

C. Does not lie or try to rip off foreigners 0 0 0 0

D. Provides full service at a normal price
when client calls their bluff. 0 0 0 0

E. Awareness that an unhappy client
costs the business and employer money 0 0 0 0
And trade and repeat business.

F. Performs other duties as 0 0 0 0
appropriate and/or directed

II. Interpersonal Relations and Communication
Needs Does Not
Evaluation of Performance Outstanding Satisfactory Improvement Meet

A. Creates an inviting and 0 0 0 0
professional atmosphere

B. Maintains a cordial and effective 0 0 0 0
relationship with customers

C. Demonstrates courtesy and 0 0 0 0
Professionalism in all communications

D. Maintains appropriate and effective 0 0 0 0
communications with co-workers,
management and clients.

III. Value to the Business and Employer

Evaluation of Performance Outstanding Satisfactory Improvement Meet

A. Normal Massage Ability. 0 0 0 0

B. Special Massage Ability and skill 0 0 0 0

C. Meets or exceeds all customer expectations 0 0 0 0

D. Demonstrates initiative and 0 0 0 0
good judgment

E. Client unconditionally happy and says
coming back and will recommend to friends 0 0 0 0

IV. Client Exit Report

Evaluation of Performance Tick or Mark as appropriate

A. Very happy, will come back. 0

B. Very unhappy, will try another establishment
or may not come back. 0

C. Employee did a poor service and tried to
cut my throat (Rip off / Overcharge) 0

D. Employee decided to hurt the business
By providing substandard service at an
Excessive price even after being caught out. 0

E. Employee has no idea what a tip is and
that it must be earned, not extorted, treated
client as a walking ATM 0

F. Employee is perfect and an asset to
the business and clients. 0

G. Management needs to talk to the employee
If she tries to cheat and make clients unhappy
- needs a warning. 0

H. Overall score out of 10 (Where 10 is perfect) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
- ***** Poor Average Good Excellent >
Comments:

Management Instructions:

Post this review form for employees to clearly see.
Post the form prominently so clients can fill out if they wish.
Employees with many negative comments should be allowed the chance to improve.

There should be a generous bonus for good employees who have the most number of positive reports.
I have read this evaluation.


_____________________________________ _____________________________________
Evaluator’s Signature (optional) Evaluatee’s Signature

Smartbuy
12-16-08, 10:12
I just posted in general info that an attractive 19 yo barhostess makes 1.2 million dong a month plus tips with food and accom throwns in (3 to a room) Divide by 17000 to convert to USD. Therefore 50,000 a DAY is about the going rate unless you have skills.

Sfinil
12-17-08, 02:22
I will be in Saigon in a couple of weeks. What's the best way for FS in your hotel (yes, my hotel is ok to bring people back). I'm not into massage and HJ and BBBJ is ok, but I'd rather have covered FS. So, the best place to score? Girls looks 6-10 (not picky) and relatively cheap (under $50 USD).

Please help me make sense of all the different vietnam opinions.

OzzieSuds
12-17-08, 08:52
I will be in Saigon in a couple of weeks. What's the best way for FS in your hotel (yes, my hotel is ok to bring people back). I'm not into massage and HJ and BBBJ is ok, but I'd rather have covered FS. So, the best place to score? Girls looks 6-10 (not picky) and relatively cheap (under $50 USD).

Please help me make sense of all the different vietnam opinions.

There are about a dozen billiard style bars with gals around District 1 catering to Western and North Asian clients. Streets like Hai Bai Trung, Mac Thi Boui and others. Going rate is about VND1.2 m for all night plus hotel. ST probably less. But you have to negotiate because they will start higher.

More details are in the forum.

Smartbuy
12-21-08, 16:06
After many goes at 120,000 entrance fee, I can inform members that the sisterhood seem to have a set price menu here. They open at USD 40 for a HJ, and become really stubborn if less than 200K is offered, which is about double the local price tip. They even whinge and bicker and extend negotiation out more than 5 minutes. Anyway, after tipping 50,000 for nothing, and some other low ball numbers, and complaints at the counter for disrespectful service, I think a few are beginning to think there are consequences. I highly commend members not to tip mercenary teasers.

Successful low ball bids of 120,000 (same as entrance ticket price) acheived.

Mickey Race
01-03-09, 17:45
If people are looking for a good, sincere, sexy nice long massage, after trying a few i now go no further than the FESTIVAL massage on CAO THANG street, district 3. My particular recommendation goes to number 30, Diem i think her name is - lovely long legs and very very sexual - but in around 15-20 visits i have only left disappointed twice. Lots of teasing and tickling your balls, occasional nagging for tips but if you warn them that you'll snitch to the desk they soon shut up. Also, you know when you have that massage with no touching and teasing, and they suddenly say "massa babee" - cover your dick in oil and try to get it done as quick as possible? - well none of that goes on at Festival - they really lead you up to it overall, i cant recommend the place highly enough.

100,000 entrance, and i usually tip 100-150,000. great place.

Smartbuy
01-08-09, 13:15
[occasional nagging for tips but if you warn them that you'll snitch to the desk they soon shut up.

Or a happy or sad face on the tip paper slip. 8/10 is another variation.

Let the girl know firmly, she has a job to do, and excess haggling is unacceptable. So is not reaching an agreement.

I've put 0/10 Unsatisfactory and complained to front desk. Check out my report card. As most complaints are not acted on, don't be afraid to tell the truth,

Entrance ticket price, or half of that is reasonable.

King Squared
01-08-09, 22:00
After many goes at 120,000 entrance fee, I can inform members that the sisterhood seem to have a set price menu here. They open at USD 40 for a HJ, and become really stubborn if less than 200K is offered, which is about double the local price tip. They even whinge and bicker and extend negotiation out more than 5 minutes. Anyway, after tipping 50,000 for nothing, and some other low ball numbers, and complaints at the counter for disrespectful service, I think a few are beginning to think there are consequences. I highly commend members not to tip mercenary teasers.

Successful low ball bids of 120,000 (same as entrance ticket price) acheived.Good work! They always start out with outrageous prices at this place. Probably because it is right in the tourist district.

Joe Nailer
01-19-09, 16:01
Hello!

I'll be in HCM March 1-7, 2009 and Nha Trang the week after that. I know busty asians are rare but I still keep looking. Have to have the boobs, man! If any of you busty lovers have seen any recently there please let me know! If you're there when I am I'd be happy to buy you a round of Tiger and swap stories!

Thanks!
That's almost 3 months away :confused: I know you are sooo excited but
around here in VN, they dont plan as far ahead as that.
They only plan for "today" if not "now"
So please enquire again a 2, 3 days before you hit VN.
:)

Fritz 25
01-25-09, 05:26
Hello!

I'll be in HCM March 1-7, 2009 and Nha Trang the week after that. I know busty asians are rare but I still keep looking. Have to have the boobs, man! If any of you busty lovers have seen any recently there please let me know! If you're there when I am I'd be happy to buy you a round of Tiger and swap stories!

Thanks!I had a HJ in a massage joint in Nha Trang from a girl with some nice DD's. The place was on the left hand side of the street as you walk North on Hung Vuong Street, about mid block between Bien Thu Street and Nguyen Thi Minh Kai. (Near the #18 on this map)

Had a couple of girls seated inside, the front doors were wide open. Offered massage upstairs for 100,000 dong. Mostly a slapping massage, she didn't know what she was doing. She asked "you want him massage"?

She massaged the nether region, and I asked her to lift her top (she was very reluctant to do that) and she exposed a wonderful set of DD's.

Tip was 100,000 dong.

Ian Oxon
02-06-09, 07:03
Smiley Bar is one place to go, from what I could tell there is a mixture of natural and enhanced. There was one quite persistent girl with an amazing natural rack but I didn't like her attitude and she had a nasty bruise on her arm. In then end I managed to end up with possibly the flattest chested girl in the place but she wasnt so pushy. We went upstairs to play pool (for those who arent familiar the deal is that if she wins you pay $10, if you win she has to strip). I lost the first game but she offered to make me happy to compensate I reluctantly agreed and I got a very nice BBBJCIM for a reasonable price. I then thrashed her at the next game of pool

Yes she kept pushing for drinks but she said that if she had 5 then she could leave with me for free. It wasnt a great deal to pay so I indulged her but then left on my own. Needed to get some sleep. All in all a very nice evening.


Hello!

I'll be in HCM March 1-7, 2009 and Nha Trang the week after that. I know busty asians are rare but I still keep looking. Have to have the boobs, man! If any of you busty lovers have seen any recently there please let me know! If you're there when I am I'd be happy to buy you a round of Tiger and swap stories!

Thanks!

OzzieSuds
02-06-09, 20:44
Thanks, Ian. Where is Smiley Bar located, please? I will go there.

Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung. No bras is the uniform. The takeout is a bit pricey - about VND1.5 mil with some bar drink/fine included.

The pool deal in all these bars is VND100k if they win and they strip if you win. US$10 is spoling them. You can negotiate other 'prizes'.

Joe Nailer
02-07-09, 17:23
some time ago, someone reported on this place with some appreciative comments.
so i decided to give a try.

also for anyone who comes to hcmc for the first time, and has chance to visit massage places, the following general description may be of help. of course the system/service differs from place to place, mind.

you must understand the system to avoid feeling ripped off.
i went to this place for a decent massage and a happy ending, nothing else. to tell the truth, i only came for a happy ending and a telephone number :confused: because i know a massage in this type of place is dismal. i mean i would consider myself lucky if i get only minor bruises.
the system:
take a lift to the 4th floor and walk up the stairs. you come to a small reception area. without any info on the price and services, a guy whisks you through to a confined changing area. as a first timer, you are likely to just follow what they show you. you would notice there are so many attendants (i wonder why so many?) you take all the clothes off and wrap yourself with a towel. a guy will show you the steam bath, sauna etc. so far so good (except you may be wondering how much its going to cost)

after steam/sauna, a guy guides you to a room which resembles an operating theatre. they tell you to lie down on a stainless bed with a towel over it. at this point, you should be seeing the big warning sign across your face. this is i think where a guy will wash you all over including your manhood. if you dont want to feel raped afterwards, you must insist that you dont want it. (certainly i did tell them i didn’t) but they insist you to lie down there because they want money for this from unsuspected customers. just say not loud but firmly "toi khong muon" or/and "khong can". tell them you want a shower. reluctantly they would show you where the shower is. after shower, you would be given this ridiculously large shorts to wear, which looks a bit dirty as well.

now they guide you to a large room with many old comfy chairs. they tell you to sit in one of them, and bring you a tea and some fruit. they want to massage your feet. if you want it and know how much it costs and are comfortable with it, then go ahead (but a guy will do this, i think). in my case, i said “i no want!” (by this time, my english is suffering as well) having successfully thwarted their rip off plans, i was finally taken to a massage cubicle.

in there, i was greeted by a 23 yo girl, a nice shape, firm b size rack which i like and seems friendly. she started massaging (if you can call that). a 80% of time she was trampling on my back. it is of course easier to use the feet instead of the hands. this continued 35 minutes. sooner did i flip over, than she started to play my manhood. she was much better on this department. she looked into my eyes intensely while executing the hand movement, and me touching her crotch area which was heavily protected. but i managed to insert my middle finger a little into her. after a hj, more groping. her rack were firm with small nipples. we exchanged telephone numbers for the outside rendezvous. :)

total damage: 310k vnd (ticket:110k, tip:200k) which is less than 20usd. but from my experience, 110k for the place is a little steep considering the location, i.e outside of the tourist areas. the tip of 200k was also too much, considering the massage. but she was sweet afterwards.

Member #2234
02-08-09, 09:56
hi regarding festival massage on cao thang:

i am very very familiar with this place as i used to go all the time when i lived in vn. the entrance fee is slightly higher than other local vietnamese massage parlours because cao thang is in an area where they will get foreigners as customers aswell so hence the slightly higher entrance fee (about 30.000vnd higher than local vietnamese parlours) but for this price increase you will get a lounge where you will get a lye-back chair and watch tv and eat fruit, this is also where you can get the foot massage:


steel bed room:

right first of all, the guys in here are not gay, gay guys work in vn gay massage parlours. basically what happens in this room is you lie face down on the steel bed with cloth and they give you a exfoliating body scrub. they do not scrub your genitals. but if you are like myself, then you probably don't want to go in this room, as 1 although it's nothing i just don't want another guy rubbing me down when i am naked, and 2 it really is not worth the money. speak of money, there is no actual charge for this service, they just ask for a tip, normally 50.000vnd, you either write it down on the tip sheet (they will only receive a percentage of that tip) or you give them the tip cash in hand (they don't tell reception anything and they will get the full tip).



foot massage:

it costs around 80.000vnd for 45mins or so, tips should normally be around 50.000vnd, so total 130.000vnd for this service. these are done by trained male foot massage therapists who only do this for a living. in my opinion well worth it, but hey that's just me, some people are weird about getting their feet touched but not me, it is actually very very comfy on the feet and the therapist also helps you to rectify back problems etc. by pressure pointing on the feet.



body massage:

all i can say is 200.000vnd? don't let them ripp you off like that! us local guys only pay 100.000vnd tip (some even 50.000vnd but to me that is a little low). before you ask, no i am not vietnamese, i just lived and worked there so i know all the ins and outs (as some members of this forum can vouch after previously meeting up with me). some girls after the body massage will ask you if you want your manhood massaged, they will look at the expression on your face to see if you are new to this or not, if they think you are new (potential money) then they will ask you how much you will pay, they might even say 500.000vnd etc. if you play it cool and act as if you have used this service regularly then they won't even ask you how much you will give. anyway if they do ask you, just say 100.000vnd, obviously they will say no and try to banter, just stick with your price, trust me they would rather have the 100.000vnd (standard local tip price) than nothing! if they don't ask you, then what happens is at the end of the manhood massage (and when your hour is up) they will ask you to write on a tip sheet (a little piece of pre-printed paper), you simply write 100.000vnd and say thank you, they can't change it or they will get in trouble so dont worry if she starts cuddling you and asking for more lol!




well, that is all i have to contribute to the subject, i like this place because although the entrance fee is slightly higher than the others, it is bigger and has more girls and also foot massage too which i think is essential as normally i go to foot massage places which cost you around 200.000vnd inc tip. so 130.000vnd in the same place as you get a body massage is a bargain. so all in all a brilliant complete service for around 300.000vnd !


oh and i forgot, festival do certain time periods (up until 6pm or something) where entrance fee is only 80.000vnd or something and after that is 110.000vnd or something

Lowkey1
02-08-09, 19:22
I just started my International traveling a few months back and have landed in mexico and Philapeans. I had a great time in the Phil and I wanted go to Vietnam but I wanted to find a few things out. I read through posts as much as possible and did not find much info besides the girls don't shave their boxes much. I have a few questions.

How much is a standard hotel?

Are girls there falling in Love with Americans and sleep with them just because they are Americans?

What is an average meal cost there?

Basically I'm trying to find out if they drool over americans there and everythign is cheap. Philapeans was great and cheap. If we paid for sex it was around 20 dollars. But it was not necessary. I was hoping Vietnam was the same or very close. Any kind of brief run down of average costs and expectations would be great.

Thank you guys

Dawg415
02-08-09, 19:23
Per recommendation by a member of this forum I tried out Minh Tanh Hotel, near the War Museum. I live around the area and was happy to find another place as my usual place was located on Nguyen Dinh Chieu, near HBT, next door to a discotech. Minh Tanh was a much nicer setup than the my usual place and the girls were much better looking. I'd say they were 6 and 7's and may be an 8. I saw the lot of them as I was walking upstairs and the locker room door opened.

This place was quite relaxing and it was 130K for massage and used of sauna and jacuzzi. I wanted a food massage also but it was too late and no workers to give it to me.

The girl I got was not bad. Face was of a 16 year old but a body of a 21 year old. She could not speak a lick of English so it was hard to communicate anything. The best part of the massage was a back massage, but all other parts were horrible. Hardly massaged my foot, hands, legs, arms and head. I closed my eyes the whole time and I think she was asking to massage my dude and with my limited VN skills I think she was asking me how much for tip but since I could not understand, she stood there, softly rubbing my legs. After a while she kept trying to talk to me and it became annoying because her laugh was of a child and she made these weird facial expressions. After about 8 minutes of this, she touched Mr. dude and I smiled and she began.

After the whole bit it seems as if she wanted me to write the tip on the piece of paper but I kept trying to give it to her. She kept giving it back to me and I felt maybe she wanted more. But in the end she did take the tip, 200K, and I walked out without any complaints from her.

Very nice massage cabins, and the place was pretty clean. They close a bit early, like 1am. I would go back there easily. Since the forum thread I read that they change girls frequently, I'd really like to get a doll who does not annoy me.

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Johndao
02-09-09, 02:31
I often do the best of both worlds as I did last night. First I go to one of my favorite BJ places a bit off the center, usually one on DBP. There I choose the girl I want (never let them push one you you don't want). The girls usually blow really really well and are hard working so if it takes a long time to cum, well, it takes a long tome to cum! These are panties down (theirs), tops up and fingers in all holes kinds of places. Lots of young sweeties, mostly from Can Tho but also other delta provinces. The tip is 100k only. Not 150k or 200k. I have never had one ask for more. Give the boss (lady) 70k (or some places now want 80k) on the way out. Everybody is happy. Oh, after you cum in her mouth (always CIM) she will give you an ok back rub and neck rub if you ask. Some good, some not so.

Then I go off to real massage. The best for the price in HCMC is on Nguyen Binh Khiem St near Nguyen Thi Minh Khai St. It's called Ngoc Anh and is always quite busy. 120k for the one hour body massage and they use hot stones for 10 or 15 mins too, included. The girls are nice and professional. You don't touch them, there are no hand jobs. There is little privacy but it is very clean and professional. Last night the girl was so sweet, so gentle, so very pretty, a real little angel with soft hands. Thuy Duong is 22, from Can Tho and has worked there 2 years. She speaks a little English (I speak Vietnamese). Just a really nice girl and a relaxing experience. I take a sauna and shower first, and as I said, am much more relaxed because I have just had a CIM BJ from another Can Tho cutie! So both experiences cost 170k for a total of 340k and time of around 2.5 hours with shower and sauna. That's how I really relax.

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Black Panda
02-09-09, 09:03
I often do the best of both worlds as I did last night. First I go to one of my favorite BJ places a bit off the center, usually one on DBP. There I choose the girl I want (never let them push one you you don't want). The girls usually blow really really well and are hard working so if it takes a long time to cum, well, it takes a long tome to cum! These are panties down (theirs), tops up and fingers in all holes kinds of places. Lots of young sweeties, mostly from Can Tho but also other delta provinces. The tip is 100k only. Not 150k or 200k. I have never had one ask for more. Give the boss (lady) 70k (or some places now want 80k) on the way out. Everybody is happy. Oh, after you cum in her mouth (always CIM) she will give you an ok back rub and neck rub if you ask. Some good, some not so.

Then I go off to real massage. The best for the price in HCMC is on Nguyen Binh Khiem St near Nguyen Thi Minh Khai St. It's called Ngoc Anh and is always quite busy. 120k for the one hour body massage and they use hot stones for 10 or 15 mins too, included. The girls are nice and professional. You don't touch them, there are no hand jobs. There is little privacy but it is very clean and professional. Last night the girl was so sweet, so gentle, so very pretty, a real little angel with soft hands. Thuy Duong is 22, from Can Tho and has worked there 2 years. She speaks a little English (I speak Vietnamese). Just a really nice girl and a relaxing experience. I take a sauna and shower first, and as I said, am much more relaxed because I have just had a CIM BJ from another Can Tho cutie! So both experiences cost 170k for a total of 340k and time of around 2.5 hours with shower and sauna. That's how I really relax.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Hi Johndao,

Great advice. But where on DBP do you get such good service?

Totally agree with you that Ngoc Anh gives excellent massage but is a little crowded at times.

Cheers mate.

BP

Crazyazn
02-09-09, 09:18
Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung. No bras is the uniform. The takeout is a bit pricey - about VND1.5 mil with some bar drink/fine included.

The pool deal in all these bars is VND100k if they win and they strip if you win. US$10 is spoling them. You can negotiate other 'prizes'.Do you happen to know the cross street or house #? Thanks!

Crazyazn
02-09-09, 09:27
I often do the best of both worlds as I did last night. First I go to one of my favorite BJ places a bit off the center, usually one on DBP. There I choose the girl I want (never let them push one you you don't want). The girls usually blow really really well and are hard working so if it takes a long time to cum, well, it takes a long tome to cum! These are panties down (theirs), tops up and fingers in all holes kinds of places. Lots of young sweeties, mostly from Can Tho but also other delta provinces. The tip is 100k only. Not 150k or 200k. I have never had one ask for more. Give the boss (lady) 70k (or some places now want 80k) on the way out. Everybody is happy. Oh, after you cum in her mouth (always CIM) she will give you an ok back rub and neck rub if you ask. Some good, some not so.Hey john,

I was wondering if you could tell me where this BJ place so I can try it out. Do you have the cross street or the name of the place? Because you know how those viet taxi drivers are, they live there for like 50 years and still need the need the cross streets to find the place.

Thanks in advance!

OzzieSuds
02-09-09, 12:43
I just started my International traveling a few months back and have landed in mexico and Philapeans. I had a great time in the Phil and I wanted go to Vietnam but I wanted to find a few things out. I read through posts as much as possible and did not find much info besides the girls don't shave their boxes much. I have a few questions.

How much is a standard hotel?

Are girls there falling in Love with Americans and sleep with them just because they are Americans?

What is an average meal cost there?

Basically I'm trying to find out if they drool over americans there and everythign is cheap. Philapeans was great and cheap. If we paid for sex it was around 20 dollars. But it was not necessary. I was hoping Vietnam was the same or very close. Any kind of brief run down of average costs and expectations would be great.

Thank you guys

George - all the information that you need is in the forum.

And I do not believe that the flippers drool over Americans as such. I will avoid any racial or cultural comments but suffice to say that what they and the Viet Gals drool over is fat western wallets. Sorry.

OzzieSuds
02-09-09, 13:03
Per recommendation by a member of this forum I tried out Minh Tanh Hotel, near the War Museum. I live around the area and was happy to find another place as my usual place was located on Nguyen Dinh Chieu, near HBT, next door to a discotech. Minh Tanh was a much nicer setup than the my usual place and the girls were much better looking. I'd say they were 6 and 7's and may be an 8. I saw the lot of them as I was walking upstairs and the locker room door opened.

This place was quite relaxing and it was 130K for massage and used of sauna and jacuzzi. I wanted a food massage also but it was too late and no workers to give it to me.

The girl I got was not bad. Face was of a 16 year old but a body of a 21 year old. She could not speak a lick of English so it was hard to communicate anything. The best part of the massage was a back massage, but all other parts were horrible. Hardly massaged my foot, hands, legs, arms and head. I closed my eyes the whole time and I think she was asking to massage my dude and with my limited VN skills I think she was asking me how much for tip but since I could not understand, she stood there, softly rubbing my legs. After a while she kept trying to talk to me and it became annoying because her laugh was of a child and she made these weird facial expressions. After about 8 minutes of this, she touched Mr. dude and I smiled and she began.

After the whole bit it seems as if she wanted me to write the tip on the piece of paper but I kept trying to give it to her. She kept giving it back to me and I felt maybe she wanted more. But in the end she did take the tip, 200K, and I walked out without any complaints from her.

Very nice massage cabins, and the place was pretty clean. They close a bit early, like 1am. I would go back there easily. Since the forum thread I read that they change girls frequently, I'd really like to get a doll who does not annoy me.

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Not finding a Minh Tanh hotel but I am finding a Thanh Minh hotel on Bui Thi Xuan but that is a little way from the War Museum. street address?

Johndao
02-10-09, 09:55
If any of you adventurous types want to try something a little different away from your super expensive D1 HBT haunts, try this. It's not thrilling, it's not the greatest, but it's an ok way to spend a little time, a little money and see the real VN (and cum too)! The place (and there are many many more like it but I will describe 1 place and 1 girl and 1 experience. Go to Lam Van Ben St. in District 7. It's very close to D1 and D4 for those of you with a great fear of leaving the city center. Lam Van Ben runs north-south between Tran Xuan Soan and Nguyen Thi Thap which are parallel East-west roads. Go to a little cafe, number 178a closer to Ng Thi Thap, on the right side heading south. Park your bike and order a coffee. Observe the dogs and the chickens. Go to a little curtained off are in the back where there are just little beach type chairs to sit on. Open your pants and the girl will blow you. Open her shirt, play with her tits, open her pants, play with her ass and pussy. Give them 20,000 for the inside coffee and 100k to the girl who blows you, that's all, no more please! If seated in the outside looking area, you can watch the rooster tied to the try running in circles. Privacy is minimal but nobody wants to look at you. Important point: Look for Lieu, a 24 yo girl from Ben Tre. I saw three girls/women there. Two were absolutely frightening! Lieu is ok, but her facial skin is not great. But she's friendly and has a nice smile and good BJ lips. What's especially interesting though, and the reason I mention all this here, are her Tits and her pussy (hair). Her breasts are near perfect, not too big or small, whit with really big nobby firm protruding nipples. And her pussy hair? In all my years and all the hundreds of Asians I have seen I have never ever seen longer straighter pussy hair. I had her stand up and it must have protruded 5 inches out. So much hair in a small place, not spread out all over the place. But you can still see her small pussy below as the hair is not dense lower. So, the combination of her wonderful tits and nips, the great hair down below, her good attitude and her hard work on BJ make it a worthwhile effort. Oh, I forgot to say, she does not appreciate cum in her mouth and my cock is thick and I pushed her down deeper which made her gaga repeatedly. Hard for her to make me cum. But she uses a side technique which allows a full view of mouth and lips with cock in them. Again, for $7 all told, a fun experience if just to see that hair! One last note, she gave me her number and is happy to go to a hotel next time.

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Joe Nailer
02-10-09, 16:36
I just started my International traveling a few months back and have landed in mexico and Philapeans. I had a great time in the Phil and I wanted go to Vietnam but I wanted to find a few things out. I read through posts as much as possible and did not find much info besides the girls don't shave their boxes much. I have a few questions.

How much is a standard hotel?

Are girls there falling in Love with Americans and sleep with them just because they are Americans?

What is an average meal cost there?

Basically I'm trying to find out if they drool over americans there and everythign is cheap. Philapeans was great and cheap. If we paid for sex it was around 20 dollars. But it was not necessary. I was hoping Vietnam was the same or very close. Any kind of brief run down of average costs and expectations would be great.

Thank you guys
"standard hotel" - this is a bit vague, but I guess you want a mini hotels at 30~40USD range?. There are many hotels like these in anmd around the centre. Of course there are family run hotels/guest house places from 10USD in bankpackers area to Sheraton, Caravelle hotel at 200USD+ etc.

"Americans" - They still hate Americans because of the war (only joking)
I am afraid Americans are nothing special. Japanese are more desireble because they pay hansomely and less demanding.

"meals" - what do you want to eat? If you are a standard person, then with 30USD you would eat well at standard places.

Co Van My
02-11-09, 02:54
If any of you adventurous types want to try something a little different away from your super expensive D1 HBT haunts, try this. [/blue][/size]

Jondao, thank you for your very insightful reports and good contact information. I have been to Vietnam many times over the years, but my recent trips were so rushed or otherwise monopolized by traveling companions that I haven't been able to explore like I used to or like you are doing now.

I'm saving your posts for the next trip. Keep them coming!

Johndao
02-18-09, 04:54
Since I found this Forum, it has encouraged me to go out and try to find some new places near the center and a bit away from the center as well. I have my favorite 100k BJ CIM places and have been very happy with the 4 I regularly visit and their turnover in girls is usually excellent. As for meeting girls outside, the Ng Chi Thanh strip in D5 is best overall as it is very active both at luchtime and the evening/night. The Nguyen Binh Khien/Ng Dinh Chieu mobile ***** market has been forced to move again, now only on Ng Binh Khiem and getting smaller all the time. I remember when it was on Le duan near the Zoo around 2005-6, that was great. Now, you can still find them on Le Duan near the Sofitel and across from the US Consulate, but only at night. Oh, and of course, ADR near Diamond Plaza is very god for late mornings/afternoons still. Some nasty stuff around the turtle on Pham Ngoc Thach at lunchtime though.

Anyway, I was looking further in D7, I mentioned earlier a so-so cafe om that Joe followed up on. He could not find hairy, pointy Lieu and the others I saw there were kind of horrible, also Joe upped my rate by 25% which I was not too happy about. So to avoid inflation I've got to keep the best BBS and Cafe Om to myself. Don't have any good Cafe Om really though.

So I'm cruising along the waterway in D7 on Tran Xuan Soan and pop into a dirty looking Hot Toc where I found one not too attractive gal doinf massage in the back for 50k and 1 guy-- the boss. I passed on that and moved down the road a bit to a brighter, cheery , more modern looking place. Lots of cuties in short pink dresses inside, a guy getting a haircut, another getting his ears reamed. Massa is the usual 70k but with everybody around I did not want to ask exactly what that meant. Since there is real haircut going on, and the back area had many beds side by side with big windows, I did not see much chance for privacy so I passed but will return sometime.

Continuing down the road now, neat the Lam Van Ben intersection I saw a dirty looking little BBS place called Minh Chau. I went in and there was a rather grungy looking mid-20's couple playing with their purple haired youngster, about 3 years-old. There were four girls there, three in the short tight show a lot of cleavage massage girl outfits, and a tall, thin, rather pretty but dark girl who had just arrived and was not changed yet. A pretty girl in pale blue, with white skin and slim legs and very ample cleavage showing showing looked most promising, followed by the tall one who was in white jeans and t-shirt and then a younger, cute kind of squat girl with a nice smile. Number 4 was big and ugly and hairy and scary in a bright red dress. Like a Tijuana nightmare.

The couple asked 150k for massa including tip and I chose the girl in blue. Pretty dirty but ac and curtained off area in the back. I lay on my stomach and she did a short but ok rub rub chop chop on my back. Turned over and pulled her close. Uh oh, she recoiled. We have a problem here, obvious already. She undid my pants, broke open a wet towel and laid it on my belly. Uh oh, big problem, no clean. She grabbed my dick and started to pump it up and down with her hand in the most disinterested and rather disgusted way possible, while keeping herself far from me. After 10 seconds I said 'suck it' (Thoi di) and when she said 'no, she doesn't do that, she's new' I sat bolt upright and said I was out of there or get a different girl. So the tall dark one comes in and says she sucks and points to her lips which were nice. But then the big one in red, horrid woman, barges through the curtain and demands loudly 'bo co di' (give her a tip) and points to the one in blue. She repeated it over and over. Now this woman is so horrible to look at you can't imagine. There was long tufty hair covering her legs from the knee down. Not only is this woman the ugliest sex worker I have ever seen, she is actually THE ugliest woman I have ever seen in all of Vietnam.

I grabbed my shirt, did the buttons, slipped on my shoes, got my bike keys out, pushed past the three of them and said "I am outta here." Got to the door, the guy on the couch with the purple hired boy slid the door open for me without even glancing up. Bye-bye. No money exchange of course. Minh Chau, Tran Xuan Soan St. Check it out if just to see the purple haired boy and the hairy monster.

I rode down to Ng Thi Thap and lo and behold, had an absolutely fabulous, one of the best BBS experiences ever, at a new place for me. Tell you about it later.

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Ian Oxon
02-18-09, 16:42
Yes, just off the junction of Thai Van Lung and Le Than Ton. There is a big Smiley sign so not easy to miss. I was there again this week and did have a game with Mai. The biggest boobs in the place. Simply stunning and I left with a big smile on my face


Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung. No bras is the uniform. The takeout is a bit pricey. About VND1. 5 mil with some bar drink/fine included.

The pool deal in all these bars is VND100k if they win and they strip if you win. US$10 is spoling them. You can negotiate other 'prizes'.

Johndao
02-19-09, 02:29
Re: the post below, the Minh Chau HJ, BJ place described below on Tran Xuan Soan St in D7 is not near the Lam Van Ben intersection but a bit further down the road to almost under the bridge. The water is on the left, the shops on the right.

Also referred to in the post below is another shop I went into to inquire but did not try out. The number is 255 Tran Xuan Soan and it's called Thien Son (see description below) and massage is 70k. It also has real haircut, hairwash etc. in addition to cute girls in pink shorty outfits but not sure about extras so would somebody please go and check it out and post the results. Joe? Suds? And please, no matter what you do there with the girl, don't give her more than 100k on top of the 70k for the house!

Joe Nailer
02-19-09, 18:05
Re: the post below, the Minh Chau HJ, BJ place described below on Tran Xuan Soan St in D7 is not near the Lam Van Ben intersection but a bit further down the road to almost under the bridge. The water is on the left, the shops on the right.

Also referred to in the post below is another shop I went into to inquire but did not try out. The number is 255 Tran Xuan Soan and it's called Thien Son (see description below) and massage is 70k. It also has real haircut, hairwash etc. in addition to cute girls in pink shorty outfits but not sure about extras so would somebody please go and check it out and post the results. Joe? Suds? And please, no matter what you do there with the girl, don't give her more than 100k on top of the 70k for the house!
Funny! I was cruising around on my motor windowshopping that area the other day. I noticed some indecisive and desparate looking guy up and down the street. Was it you? (only joking) :)
In fact I was inspecting a cafe (hoping that to be a cafe om) completely opposite side of HCMC from your hunting ground in D7. Nguyen Huu Canh towards Cau Saigon. there are some cafes on the left. Some time ago I was there quite innocently for a ca phe sua da, and I noticed a girl there smiling and eyeing at me. Since then I was suspecting this place for a possible cafe om.
I went there last Sunday to check. 2 young girls in bright coloured shorts with some makeups were serving. I was sipping a ca phe sua da, After some minutes, one of the girl (less pretty one) suddenly sat next to me. I said to myself, "I'm on". But being a shy guy (yes, me) I could not go straight to the point. I was not sure if she was expecting me to say "it". It was a missed opportunity. In restropect, there was nothing to lose in just enquiring. Sorry guys, I must go again to check it out, definitely!

Also on the Ng Chi Thanh triangle for FLs, there are many there. I stopped for one who looked pretty from a distance, but up close, she looked sickly so I passed. Another girl (woman) on a bike approched me offering a service for 300K all inclusive. She's got a D cup. But again it's not my type, too old, probably mid to late 30's. The thought of that makes me shiver. So I passed. Another occasion, 2 girls on the bike stopped in front of me, both looked young (20 to 24) and pretty, offering me for mot tram (100). I was not sure they meant 100K VND or 100 USD. So I passed.
Sorry guys, I am not good am I?

Johndao
02-20-09, 01:53
Don't be silly Joe, you are good. Something about cafes in Vietnam, they often employ attractive young girls to sell coffee and chat with customers. That's their job, so you can go there alone and have someone nice to talk to if you want. Not cafe om.- in fact, most cafes have some girls there to talk to. In cafe om, the girls will be aggressive, they will let you know there is om+cafe, don't worry. They tell you clearly because otherwise you may think it's just like every other cafe where a girl sits next to you and chats.

If you see a cafe and it is quite open to the street, and there are many, many chairs outside and inside, it's not cafe om. Cafe om will have just a few chairs, not many, and they are often longer and narrower buildings, leading to the back area.

I had a reason to be up in Go Vap recently, I rarely go there, it's too far. But it's where there is lots of action. On the way to my destination in the early afternoon I took note of what looked like a likely cafe om and popped in on my way back. It's at 347 Phan Van Tri St. There were 2 girls working there and a manager. Just a long narrow place with a few chairs and cement floor, fans, little tables, it's pretty rough. One girl was not too attractive but friendly, about a 6. 5. The other was younger and cuter, not as friendly, maybe a 7. 5. They made it very clear there was massage area in the back. Funny, there was! Actual massage tables in a large, very large area, I can't call it a room. Two tables, separated by a curtain. Just 100k for the coffee and the BJ. No more, that's all. It was ok, a way to relax and get some energy for the drive back. I hate going all the way out there. Too bad so many places have had to move out of central Saigon to Go Vap, Tan Binh and Binh Thanh. It's a pain to go out there. But I have my favorite places still pretty central.

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Member #2234
02-20-09, 17:24
Don't be silly Joe, you are good. Something about cafes in Vietnam, they often employ attractive young girls to sell coffee and chat with customers. That's their job, so you can go there alone and have someone nice to talk to if you want. Not cafe om.- in fact, most cafes have some girls there to talk to. In cafe om, the girls will be aggressive, they will let you know there is om+cafe, don't worry. They tell you clearly because otherwise you may think it's just like every other cafe where a girl sits next to you and chats.

If you see a cafe and it is quite open to the street, and there are many, many chairs outside and inside, it's not cafe om. Cafe om will have just a few chairs, not many, and they are often longer and narrower buildings, leading to the back area.

I had a reason to be up in Go Vap recently, I rarely go there, it's too far. But it's where there is lots of action. On the way to my destination in the early afternoon I took note of what looked like a likely cafe om and popped in on my way back. It's at 347 Phan Van Tri St. There were 2 girls working there and a manager. Just a long narrow place with a few chairs and cement floor, fans, little tables, it's pretty rough. One girl was not too attractive but friendly, about a 6. 5. The other was younger and cuter, not as friendly, maybe a 7. 5. They made it very clear there was massage area in the back. Funny, there was! Actual massage tables in a large, very large area, I can't call it a room. Two tables, separated by a curtain. Just 100k for the coffee and the BJ. No more, that's all. It was ok, a way to relax and get some energy for the drive back. I hate going all the way out there. Too bad so many places have had to move out of central Saigon to Go Vap, Tan Binh and Binh Thanh. It's a pain to go out there. But I have my favorite places still pretty central.

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Hehe I actually been there a few times too, the girls not the prettiest but certainly a quick cheap RELIEF ;-)

I usually get a not too bad massage from them before the action too ;-)

I like Phan Van Tri as there are quite a few of these places there (well actually quite ALOT lol!) and when the sun goes down you will see lots of girls sitting at the doors so it's quite pleasant to drive up and down a few times to view ;-)

Hardlock1
02-25-09, 11:04
last year, i wrote about a place in phu nhuan, a hotel, that had massage on the top floor. if you look back to last march, you will see my report there.

upon going into this hotel and up to the top floor this year, imagine my surprise when i found out that both top two floors had been turned over to the massage parlor. it seems that is the only thing making money in the place! lol

imagine also, my shock, to find the parlor totally redone. individual, separate rooms, with bath and sauna in each bathroom. imagine also my shock to find that the massage girls actually give you a bath. amazing. good.

they still have glass doors, and they still have a curtain hanging down over the door with a cloth tied around it at the bottom, so that anyone coming by can have a look inside. noone has come by yet and looked, and today was my 3rd time being in there in the last 12 days.

also, imagine my shock when i found out, much more seems to be able to be had now! no fs, at least not on the 5th floor. the 6th floor seems to be kept in reserve for what they call vip. standard massage is 100k dong, and vip is 200k. i haven't tried the vip yet, but i guess i shall, just to see what happens for that extra 100k dong. lol

anyway, i found a girl there, who seems to have no aversion to sneeking peeks outside, making sure papasan is looking the other way, and using her mouth and tongue. need i say more?

thanh nghia, 568 nguyen khim street. h is out!

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Johndao
02-26-09, 03:28
last year, i wrote about a place in phu nhuan, a hotel, that had massage on the top floor. if you look back to last march, you will see my report there.

also, imagine my shock when i found out, much more seems to be able to be had now! no fs, at least not on the 5th floor. the 6th floor seems to be kept in reserve for what they call vip. standard massage is 100k dong, and vip is 200k. i haven't tried the vip yet, but i guess i shall, just to see what happens for that extra 100k dong. lol

anyway, i found a girl there, who seems to have no aversion to sneeking peeks outside, making sure papasan is looking the other way, and using her mouth and tongue. need i say more?

thanh nghia, 568 nguyen khim street. h is out!thanks for the detailed report hardlock and sure hope your back feels better. or maybe not so the family will allow you out more often ;-)

i think the street name is nguyen kiem, not khem or khim as in the reports, is it right? i would guess that the vip deal would not be about services but probably a better, bigger room, nicer bath, maybe the best girls, etc.

so the sauna, bath, massage, etc. is 100k. what did you tip for bj? did she make demands first or try to negotiate a price for hj, bj, etc? what did you tip for hj?

i want to try it out, but the reason i ask is because for me nothing is a boner shrinker like a girl trying to negotiate a price while i am trying to enjoy myself. it just sets me off, i get a bad temper, tell them off, it ruins the whole atmosphere for me and i usually just get up and walk out, unless it is very fast and they accept my offer of 'binh thuong' which means normal. i'm not a blue balls type of guy and i usually don't like hj only without bj so it is very worthless to me, monetarily (hj is something i can do for myself) and i won't talk or offer any money for it, ever. i'll tip what i want afterward, of course. it is a normal part of massage in asia. only problem is the girls have learned that westerners particularly, regard it as some kind of 'extra' for which they pay handsomely and not just another appendage to be rubbed. that's the way it is in our countries. otherwise i'll just skip hj or bj and enjoy the bath and massage and give them a small but reasonable tip like 50k.

sorry to go on and on about it. that's me, i have my places that are just perfect for me but i'm always looking for something else as well. thanks for any more info on the routine there. it sounds like fun. i've never had a massage girl bathe me here in vn.

Johndao
02-26-09, 04:36
The MP I am reporting on here is in District 1, Dakao Ward. That's the bottom line of the 'L' shape of D1, bordered by Binh Thanh, D3 and Phu Nhuan Districts. If you want to go there it is less than 1km from the US Consulate on Le Duan St, so don't panic! I have 4 HCMC maps and this small street is only on one of them, and then in initials. My map has it as HK Ninh which stands for Huynh Khuong Ninh. It's between Dinh Tien Hoang and Phan Liem streets and between Dien Bien Phu and Vo Thi Sau streets. The name of the place is Que Trang and it's on the south side of the street.

I have my places I like for mass/BJ as you know and the routine is always the same, so that's what I am looking for in a new place. A gaggle of girls hanging inside a closed door place, wearing brightly colored, skimpy, easy access matching outfits. The young woman who seems to be the manager was in the courtyard for bike parking and was friendly and attractive. I asked the price of massage and she told me it was 70k (the usual in other words). I went inside and was not overly impressed with the selection so I chose an attractive tallish, light-skinned woman, older than the others, I'd say 34 or so. She was polite and led me to the back area.

As soon as we went into the small curtained off cubicle are, I knew something was different. This place was quite clean and fresh, the AC was on, there was a clean sheet on the massage table, I saw candles and some potpouri. In these places one only takes off shirt and shoes and lies on the table. She did quite a competent massage on both sides, for a short time, maybe 10 minutes. She was ok. She undid my pants and started to massage my cock without question or comment. I pulled up her shirt, felt her small tits and saw them too. Everything normal so far. I slipped my hand into her panties and fingered her a little bit and was surprised at her wetness, she was lubed! She got out the wet towel. . . and then the problems became obvious. Instead of using the wet towel to clean my dick and surrounding areas before tongue bath and BJ as usual, she layed it on my belly without wiping. Bad news, that says to me HJ, not BJ. Remember, I just wandered into this place, never been there before, no recommendation. Also, I hate the feel of a cold wet towel on my belly, especially when the ac is on. Boner shrinker. Using my subtlest Vietnamese phrase I told her, "Thoi di". Thoi means blow and di is the command word to do something. In other words -- 'blow me'.

Big, big problem now as she asked me how much I'll give her to blow me. I answered 'binh thuong' (normal) and she asked how much is normal. I told her the same as every other place I go to get BJ's. Again, how much is that she asked. My blood is starting to boil now, the atmosphere nearly ruined. I told her 100k and when she scoffed that that's what she gets for HJ, BJ she gets 200k, I told her well, not from me. I just hate this scene and try to avoid it all costs. That's why I love the good places, but it's hard to find new ones, have to try them out, trial and error. Anyway, I am up in a flash, get my shirt on, my shoes on, keys from my pocket. I walk out to the front counter, really she is quite stunned but I don't care now, I'm pissed and not in the mood. I drop 100k on the counter (You have to pay the house, not their fault really) and there was 30k more for her 12 minutes. I'm outta there!

Now, I am not panning this place and telling you not to go there. It's an ok place and will please many of you, particularly those of you who think a quick BJ in an upstairs room at a HBT bar is a great deal for 500k. Or you guys who can't find anything but a massage place where they coerce you into 200-300k for a Hand Job.

Somebody else please try it out and post a report, including price paid and for what. Again, it's an ok place, just not for me, not the way I like to do it.

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Hardlock1
02-26-09, 23:03
Yes, Johndao,

I spelled the street name wrong, as is my habit sometimes. It comes from getting old, being a senior citizen, or just plain having a semi-comatose brain! Ha ha ha ha The girl I saw was named Thuy. Cute, no tits to speak of, but sweeter than Honey on Ice Cream. The first two times, the tip I paid was 200k. And the last time, the tip I gave her was 300k. Now, before you go off on me, John, please let me say that it was the first time in Vietnam, ever, going back to 1965, that I have ever had my ass and balls reamed from the back. Oh hell, being an old salesman, I truly love a great performance. LOL Point taken?

And no, nothing was negotiated before hand. She just decided she liked me, kept on hugging me, and did her thing! Of course, I did ask for the BJ, cause their standard fare is HJ. Can't be shy in those places. You have to ask, thats for sure. And no, I don't think anyone blames you for walking out of that place. Never, never ever reward [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor behavior. Never! Good Man!

H

Mycroft67
02-27-09, 04:35
Not finding a Minh Tanh hotel but I am finding a Thanh Minh hotel on Bui Thi Xuan but that is a little way from the War Museum. street address?It's the Minh Tam hotel, 2C Le Quy Don, opposite the War Museum.

Member #2234
03-06-09, 12:07
Hi guys, I'm back in VN ! I visited the FESTIVAL massage parlour today (not been there for a long while) and the only thing that has changed is the is no longer any free parking, which is not a big problem (it is only 3k vnd). Anyway, entrance fee was 110k (massage) and 70k (foot massage), I tipped the foot massage person 50k and tipped the gorgeous girl that I got 100k (massage, handjob, grope tits, finger right inside her) so all in all only 330k which I think is very reasonable including foot massage, without it would have only cost 210k all in.

Anyway, since I have not been for absolutely ages I did not know any of the girls tag numbers so I just asked for a beautiful slim girl, and that's what I got! Her name is LIEU, 23years old, 1metre57 (tall for VN girl), 46kg weight. Her tag number is NUMBER 1 for anyone who wants to try her. When I was in the lounge I heard quite a few guys asking if NUMBER 6 was available, but they were told she was busy with a customer already, so I did not see her but I'd imagine she is ok looking as it was local vietnamese that was asking for her (3 customers in total asked for her that I heard).

Well hope this info is good for someone on here, oh and I have Lieu's number if anyone wishes to get it as she is willing to be a TOUR GUIDE she says, as long as the customer pays for everything obviously lol!

Riki Riki
03-06-09, 22:09
Yo people. How are ya?

I would appreciate some of you commenting here as I really need direction.

I am going to two areas oh HMC (called Tan-Phu and Tan-Binh).

I have "critical & limiting" needs when looking for a place with girls.

WHAT I DO WANT:

1) A place only local/close to the Tan-Phu/Tan-Binh area.
2) A place where servicing is in a back room (convenient "in & out" stop).
3) A place that does not require me to take the girl to a second spot (hotel).
3) A place with extra young girls (small, thin, under-aged-looking).
4) A place that does not require holding my Visa & Passports.

WHAT I DO NOT WANT:

1) Paying yet more money for a taxi (to a far away place).
2) Paying yet more money for a hotel.
3) Giving someone (like a hotel or pimp) my passport or visa.
4) Going somewhere where dangerous locals or the police could be waiting.

I also, I do not have much time for these visits. I can't do all day affairs.

I don't even care about massages, drinks or chit-chat. I want to control sex.

I want to guide her body, finger her anus, get sucked & give her a fuck.

I am doing this while in VN with the wife. This is why I need "close & fast".

Am I hoping for too much? If so, what are some close alternatives? Thanks!

OzzieSuds
03-08-09, 21:23
Yo people. How are ya?

I would appreciate some of you commenting here as I really need direction.

I am going to two areas oh HMC (called Tan-Phu and Tan-Binh).

I have "critical & limiting" needs when looking for a place with girls.

WHAT I DO WANT:

1) A place only local/close to the Tan-Phu/Tan-Binh area.
2) A place where servicing is in a back room (convenient "in & out" stop).
3) A place that does not require me to take the girl to a second spot (hotel).
3) A place with extra young girls (small, thin, under-aged-looking).
4) A place that does not require holding my Visa & Passports.

WHAT I DO NOT WANT:

1) Paying yet more money for a taxi (to a far away place).
2) Paying yet more money for a hotel.
3) Giving someone (like a hotel or pimp) my passport or visa.
4) Going somewhere where dangerous locals or the police could be waiting.

I also, I do not have much time for these visits. I can't do all day affairs.

I don't even care about massages, drinks or chit-chat. I want to control sex.

I want to guide her body, finger her anus, get sucked & give her a fuck.

I am doing this while in VN with the wife. This is why I need "close & fast".

Am I hoping for too much? If so, what are some close alternatives? Thanks!

Read the forum and you will find that you cannot make Saigon fit what you want - you have to go with the flow a bit.

Member #2234
03-10-09, 01:59
Hi guys, just to add a report to my return to Viet Nam, I already posted one a couple of days ago about FESTIVAL.

Well last night I fancied a quickie/bj so went down Phan Van Tri, I didn't get the number of the shop but there is quite a few there heading from Go Vap to Binh Thanh on the right hand side just before the bridge.

Prices is still the same as a few years ago, well I didn't ask price, I just acted like I knew. I got a CIM BJ, body massage, licked all over with her tongue, I groped and poked her (with my finger) aswell. At the end I gave 100k tip (which INCLUDES the mama/entrance/customer fee aswell. ALL IN)

Trick Or Treat
03-12-09, 09:24
could you possibly gotten the address wrong? i took a drive down nguyen kiem today and 568 is definitely not a hotel or any sort of p4p establishment.


last year, i wrote about a place in phu nhuan, a hotel, that had massage on the top floor. if you look back to last march, you will see my report there.

upon going into this hotel and up to the top floor this year, imagine my surprise when i found out that both top two floors had been turned over to the massage parlor. it seems that is the only thing making money in the place! lol

imagine also, my shock, to find the parlor totally redone. individual, separate rooms, with bath and sauna in each bathroom. imagine also my shock to find that the massage girls actually give you a bath. amazing. good.

they still have glass doors, and they still have a curtain hanging down over the door with a cloth tied around it at the bottom, so that anyone coming by can have a look inside. noone has come by yet and looked, and today was my 3rd time being in there in the last 12 days.

also, imagine my shock when i found out, much more seems to be able to be had now! no fs, at least not on the 5th floor. the 6th floor seems to be kept in reserve for what they call vip. standard massage is 100k dong, and vip is 200k. i haven't tried the vip yet, but i guess i shall, just to see what happens for that extra 100k dong. lol

anyway, i found a girl there, who seems to have no aversion to sneeking peeks outside, making sure papasan is looking the other way, and using her mouth and tongue. need i say more?

thanh nghia, 568 nguyen khim street. h is out!

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Johndao
03-13-09, 02:46
Could you possibly gotten the address wrong? I took a drive down Nguyen Kiem today and 568 is definitely not a hotel or any sort of p4p establishment.The Thanh Nhgia is on the LEFT side of Nguyen KIEM (Phu Nhuan District) which is one way at that point. It's number 567, NOT 568 as reported, it's big and hard to miss. See my map with arrow, attached. Nguyen Kiem is a continuation of Hai Ba Trung St which changes name twice on the way up.

I read two of Hardluck's recent reports on this place and decided to try it out one afternoon, mainly because I liked the idea of a cute girl giving me a bath. As any of you may know from earlier posts, I am not much of a HJ kind of guy, but if the mood and massage and girl are right, it's pretty good.

I arrived a bit after midday and parked in the underground of the hotel. It was deserted. Someone gave me ticket and showed me the stairs to the lobby. I took a very small and very slow elevator to the 5th floor. There was a boy (very young man) there, a small table and a sign in Vietnamese reading 200k for VIP room massage and 100k for regular room massage. I asked him the difference between the rooms and he said the VIP was for 2 hours. I asked again about any room differences and he thought and said the room was bigger. Anyway, I went for the 100k.

He led me just across the hall to the first room, went in, turned on the lights and ac and he ran the bath and left. The room was small but not too small, with a professional style massage table covered in a clean sheet. There was a large wardrobe for clothes and a TV and TV stand which held many towels. The bathroom had a large square shaped tub, a sink, and a glass enclosed sauna area with a high plastic stool inside. It was clean and modern and all looked recently done. The room door was glass and had a full length curtain covering it, but this was tied in a knot at the bottom. Same for the door to the bathroom.

The boy had given me a large towel and indicated I should disrobe and wrap myself in it. I didn't do that as I usually don't follow instructions people give me in these kinds of places (same for Dr offices, I never put on the gown before the Dr comes in). I turned on the TV and changed channels till I found an interesting tennis match and stood there and watched it while the bath ran. I was thinking that the previous poster mentioned Thuy and she sounded great. If I felt the girl who would enter was not to my liking, I decided I would ask if Thuy was available. After what seemed like a very long time, Ngoc came in.

Ngoc was tall and white and a had a friendly smile. She was wearing a typical white massage girl outfit, short skirt exposing pale and rather full, shapely legs. Her obviously large breasts were creating quite a triangle effect in her shirt as well. Her face was pretty and she had kind of pushed-back teeth, small and straight, like Jackie O, that's how I think of those kind of teeth. She seemed friendly enough, and she certainly was pretty, so off we go.

I took off all my clothes, placed them in the closet, wrapped the towel around me and went to the bath. I asked her what was the routine and she said to get in and bathe! I asked if she was going to come in with me and she said no. I asked if she was going to wash me, and she said no, it's not allowed here. I told her my friend was here and a girl washed him in the bath and she said no. I asked if she could just wash my back then and she said no. I asked if she could wash my hair and she said no. So she gave me soap and I got in the tub and she went out to stand by the room door, the front door. So I'm sitting in the tub and feeling stupid. After all, who wants to take a bath? What's the point of a bath? If I want to get clean, I take a shower. If I want to relax, I may take a bath. But I am not paying to relax alone in a bathtub. And I did not want a sauna either. So I stood up and took a shower, washed myself, washed my hair, dried off and went out.

I lay face down on the massage table and Ngoc massaged my back. She's 24, from a Delta province and has been in the city for 7 months. Her massage is ok, not great, but ok. I really just like back and especially neck and shoulder massage as my neck and shoulders get very hard and my tension goes there. I am relaxing and she sits on my back and then further down on my legs and rubs me. After 10 mins or so of this I become aware that she is doing a short, weak rhythmic motion of massaging my lower legs from ankle to knee. She's just lightly squeezing my legs and moving up to the knee and back to the ankle, again and again, for a long time. It's worthless as far as massage goes. Then I notice something else, the thwack, thwack sound of the tennis balls being batted has morphed into the sound of Vietnamese people talking. I turn my head around and yes, it's true, she's watching TV. Now the TV is mostly behind the massage table so she has to crane her neck around about 120 degrees to see it! She's doing that pathetic little, weak, time-wasting routine up and down my legs because it's mindless, she's watching a soap opera! I told her to turn off the TV, and she did.

She proceeds now with somewhat more concentration, but a not especially competent massage. After a while I am on my back. She does some circular things so her hands brush my balls, brush my limp dick. She does all this fast, not sensually, she keeps touching my dick for a second and then sweeping her hands around my legs or chest. After a while she grabs it and it responds. Not a HJ, just brief rub or jerk followed by release and moving her hands around. It's ok, it feels good, I am erect. I look at her and she looks good. I squeeze her ass and it's solid, firm, round, two really amazing buns. Her face smiling at me is sexy. I tell her to blow me and she says she can't here. She's jerking my dick now. I ask her what about climbing on top and slipping it in, past her shorts. She says can't here. I ask her what about outside, at a hotel. She says, ok, she's free everyday from 6:30 am to 11:00 am and then she starts work at the hotel at noon. We can do everything, she'll give me her mobile number. Ok, she asks if she should continue massaging my dick and I say no. I roll over and tell her to massage my back, which she does weakly.

Forty-five minutes total has passed now, I'm kind of fed up with this, I get up and dress very quickly. She asks, you're going early? Yes, I am busy I say. She hands me the tip sheet, I write 50k. She says no, 100k. I say if you want 100k for a massage then you shouldn't watch TV while massaging weakly and poorly (nghe nghe, massa sau). She said, 'ok, em hieu' (I understand). I went out and gave the guy 200k and he said thanks and walked away. Then Ngoc said no to the guy, he has to give me 50k change. The guy looked surprised but did not comment, then gave me 50k. I walked down 5 flights 'cause that elevator scares me.

As Hardluck said in his earlier report, he had a good time but don't expect the same good experience as he had. That turn out to have been an excellent prediction. Maybe it just depends on the girl, the customer, the time of day, who knows. What do we learn about prices? As the boy took 200k, 100k for the house and 100k for her, he seemed to say that was normal. So if you go there and have an ok time, they would just get 100k as a tip. The boy wouldn't know what happened in the room. But he would assume the standard Asian Massage happy ending.

As for Ngoc, she really did not seem to care much. Perhaps her early morning activity is far more lucrative and the massage is just the way to meet customers. Maybe she had just come from an early morning hotel liaison in which she earned enough for the day, was tired and did not care about the potential 100k or 200k or whatever from me. I didn't take her number or talk money about outside activities.

I really want to go to a place where the girl bathes you. An earlier post mentioned a place in Thu Duc but without details on location. Anybody?

See map for location of Thanh Nghia. 567 Nguyen Kiem, Phu Nhuan District.

JD

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Member #2234
03-13-09, 04:03
Yeah 568 seems to be down GO VAP end of NG Kiem aswell, not Phu Nhuan. I can't seem to find it either




Could you possibly gotten the address wrong? I took a drive down Nguyen Kiem today and 568 is definitely not a hotel or any sort of p4p establishment.

Whisper1
03-13-09, 06:46
Yeah 568 seems to be down GO VAP end of NG Kiem aswell, not Phu Nhuan. I can't seem to find it either

The address of the massage place in Phu Nhuan is 567. If you're coming from Hai Ba Trung, head toward Go Vap, it will be on your left hand side before the Saigon Coop Supermarket.

Joe Nailer
03-13-09, 17:03
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I really want to go to a place where the girl bathes you. An earlier post mentioned a place in Thu Duc but without details on location. Anybody?

See map for location of Thanh Nghia. 567 Nguyen Kiem, Phu Nhuan District.

JD

Re: Nguyen Kiem hotel massa
I have been to this place a long time ago, well before this bathing thing came along. I have had an "intimate" laison with one girl from there for some time now. In fact she sent me a few SMS yesterday, saying "Anh nhớ em không".
These girls are very good at playing the mind game with men.

As for a place in Thu Duc, do you mean this place (see pic below); Health Club? There is a post about this place in the past. It is on Nguyen Van Ba that runs parallel to the main road. The picture was taken from this main road; hence a little obscured. Do Google Maps for "ho chi minh city, nguyen van ba" and move around the map to direct yourself from the city centre.
It was a year ago when I went there. So maybe my info is out of date. I asked for a VIP service, but it was not available. So I had to opt for just a massa. Thủy came in. She was so tiny that she just hop on to my back and provided a very good massa. I said I want more than a HJ, but she could not do so at the premises, but she could in a hotel nearby after work, and wanted 100USD. Well I would not come here all the way at midnight and pay 100USD. So I just had a HJ while fingering her wet c**t. On the way out, I saw 6, 7 tourist looking people in the VIP room. Not sure though what VIP service included.

Hardlock1
03-13-09, 18:22
Johndao,

I wanted to clear something up for you, and for any of the guys who want to go to Thanh Nghia for a massage.

First of all, Thuy explained to me that there was no more "tips" given to the house there. No longer do you have to write the amount of your tip on her tip-sheet. The tip negotiated goes directly into her pocket inside the room. Papasan either gets his 100k or VIP 200k and that is it.

Now, having said that, the other day, I went back there looking for Thuy. And isn't it strange? Thuy says she is 24. John, your girl said she was 24. Thuy wasnt in the day I went, but my back hurt like hell, so I opted for the VIP service, because I had promised myself to see what it was about.

I went up to the 6th floor. All the same. Room exactly a carbon copy of the 5th floor. In walks a girl named Trinh. She says she is 24. Amazing. Anyway, I asked her to bathe me. She politely declined. Okay. No sweat. I got on the table, and she literally beat the hell outta me. Cracked my back like crazy, gave me the hardest massage I have had in a while. All very theraputic.

Finally, we got around to the happy ending part, and yes, she informed me that if I wanted a BJ, it would cost me a million dong. LOL I politely declined. She asked me if I wanted to pay 400k for a HJ, and I politely declined. At that point, I lost all interest. Finally, when she was faced with having to finish the rest of the two hours without a tip, she offered 300k and I laughed in her face. She took offense at first, then finally started to laugh. She made it clear that she understood I wasnt a stupid-horny Ong My. LOL

Finally, after about an hour of that bullshit, I got up and put on my clothes. Her face fell about a half a mile down toward the floor. She asked me if I didn't like her, and I told her no, I didn't. Then she did a strange thing. She took my hand, pulled aside her pants, and put my hand right on her dripping pussy. My gosh, it was literally dripping. Now John, maybe you know, but I don't. I dunno if she was trying to explain that I should have negotiated some more, or just what. I am perplexed about it. LOL And, I miss the hell outta Thuy.

No, the VIP room isn't worth it. Don't do it. And oh, by the way. I hope I didn't mess it up for any of the rest of you guys, but before I left, I did give her a 100k note. Not that I was rewarding bad behavior, but you never know. Someday, maybe next year, she will come walking into a room where I am laying on the table, and remember that I am not a bad guy, and definitely not an asshole. I guess I have a soft heart. These girls titillate us, scintillate us, ejaculate us, and just plain gets-us-off. In Viet society, they still do pay the price for that. I guess it is just my nature to give a little back. Never hurts. No, she wasnt Thuy, but no, she also wasnt Dracula in Drag, either.

Now, please all you guys understand. Thuy didn't bathe me the first time, either. Also, she didn't use her mouth and lips the first time, either. Only on my second visit did she hug me, tickle me, offer to go with me to a boom-boom hotel any time I liked. The second visit, I knew something was gonna happen when she didn't use the baby oil for the massage. You know, when you let those girls use baby oil during the massage, you can forget BJ. They won't do it, as they don't have condoms in there. Okay?

Now, on my 3rd visit with Miss Thuy, it was just gosh-almighty mind blowing. She finally asked me my age. I told her. LOL I tried to explain that if she put a birthday candle on a cake for each year of my life, and light them all up, she would burn her damn house down. LOL, when she heard sao muoi hai tuoi, she literally got weak at the knees, and her face got this honest to god startled look. Hell, I thought she might start to run away or something. Then, she started to laugh, reached down, and kissed my cock, right on the head! LOL Then she looked at me, looked at my cock, and raised her arm and put her fingers around her wrist, and started to laugh again! I guess in her way, she was trying to pay me a compliment! LOL

This is my 3rd year going to that hotel massage parlor. They all know me, and hell, I would suppose they all know that I live only a 5 minute walk away. But I do know, if you are a regular customer, you don't have to worry about Papasan coming around to check and look through the door. Never happens. Now, I even tip him also, because he likes to think that he and I are good friends! Hell, if he is gonna let me get away with the brutal murder I am doing with Thuy in that room, he can damn sure be my friend forever. LOL

I apologize for the mistake in the address number for the hotel. My fault. But, again, I AM getting old. LOL

Thank you guys

Happy hunting

H is out

Johndao, P.S. I forgot to tell you. Thuy got no tits to speak of, but my gosh, she is ripe. The 3rd visit, I made her tell me what all we could do in the boom boom hotel. She said everything. So I inquired about DATY, if she liked that. Thats when I got the shocker of my young life! LOL She jumped up on the massage table, opened her legs, pulled her shorts and panties aside, and grabbed me and pulled my head down there! LOL Oh well, as you might not know, I am an old Southern Boy. LOL Where I come from, it is most impolite to keep a lady waiting. Ha ha ha ha ha

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Don1010ho
03-13-09, 21:19
Joe Nailer,
i have been in this place about half a dozen of time, last year alone, but each time i was asked for VIP the same answer "we do not have VIP". Base on a 411 of a member of this board they do have VIP, but i never offered once, even i do look like a BIG BOSS but the answer still do not have, i guess it's true that they don't have VIP suite at all. I do like Thủy too, but a lot of time i requested Thúy Kiều, she look average but have has a nice smile. you're 100% right Joe Nailer, these girls are good playing mind game with men, i still not get Thúy Kiều come to my hotel yet, after all those times and $$$. Have fun and play safe.

Ashen
03-14-09, 10:44
If any of you adventurous types want to try something a little different away from your super expensive D1 HBT haunts, try this. It's not thrilling, it's not the greatest, but it's an ok way to spend a little time, a little money and see the real VN (and cum too)! The place (and there are many many more like it but I will describe 1 place and 1 girl and 1 experience. Go to Lam Van Ben St. in District 7. It's very close to D1 and D4 for those of you with a great fear of leaving the city center. Lam Van Ben runs north-south between Tran Xuan Soan and Nguyen Thi Thap which are parallel East-west roads. Go to a little cafe, number 178a closer to Ng Thi Thap, on the right side heading south.Dear Johndao,

Apologies, newbie here to the forum. Have been in HCM for 2 months but not been out of dist 1, 10 and 3 much. Will be around in HCM for the rest of the year though.

I went to the above mentioned today, but sadly couldn't find it. I'd managed to only find 179 Lam Van Ben st though. Have no idea where 178a is, after walking around for quite a bit. Did see alot of people fishing at a pond beside the road though.
Perhaps you could point this lost bloke in the right direction please?

Many thanks

Johndao
03-15-09, 04:45
Dear Johndao,

Apologies, newbie here to the forum. Have been in HCM for 2 months but not been out of dist 1, 10 and 3 much. Will be around in HCM for the rest of the year though.

I went to the above mentioned today, but sadly couldn't find it. I'd managed to only find 179 Lam Van Ben st though. Have no idea where 178a is, after walking around for quite a bit. Did see alot of people fishing at a pond beside the road though.
Perhaps you could point this lost bloke in the right direction please?

Many thanksAshen, It is further south down that road, past the fishing place. On your right. And now there are two places next to one another. There is a third cafe (first as you head south) with a very cute young girl working selling coffee but only that, normal cafe. The ones I am talking about are next door nearly to the Nguyen Thi Thap intersection. When you walk past them the girls will beckon you to come in. I mark them approximately only on the map attached.

These places are nothing great so don't get too excited. On Nguyen Thi Thap you will find many many BBS doing massa/BJ for 100-150k total. Look for places with doors that are usually smoked white tinted and that have signs like Hot Toc, May Lanh. If it's open and you can look inside and see barbers, it's just haircut. Near the Lam Van Ben intersection go left or right and you will see many, they are all (almost all) on the north side of the street.

JD

Joe Nailer
03-15-09, 15:20
On the way back from Q2, after Cau Saigon, I took a detour into D2. I have never been in this area before. But I "smelt" something sleazy about this area. I slowed down and look the both side of the street. I noticed an old woman (around 40) at a hot toc place waving at me when I just drove passed it. I continued on till the junction and turned right into Ung Van Khiem Street. (On Google Maps, enter “ho chi minh city, ung van khiem”)

I was still going slowly. Amongst god knows everything, I noticed a few small cafes at the both sides of the road. They looked suspicious. Very suspicious. I made a mental note of these places and drove on. I turned around at the point where the street become less busy, and drove back down the same road towards the point I started.

I can now see many cafes like these, and some of them have girls sitting in front of their shops. These girls were wearing colourful clothes. You can’t miss it. They are definitely cafe oms.

I picked one of them and walked in. This place (see pic1. Can you see a little gecko on the wall? Cute :)) had a few chairs and nothing else except a mandatory plant (you will notice there is always some plants in front of these cafes, presumably to obscure the views from outside) This girl greeted me and sat me in a worn chair. I ordered a cà phê sữa đá, but she had to fetch it from another place. Mama san came along and asked me to pay 150K upfront. I said I would pay afterwards, but this ugly woman in pyjamas was insistent. So I obliged.

She (late 20s, 6/10 now. I reckon when she’s younger, she would easily be 8/10) took my hand very affectionate and to the room behind (see pic2). The room was dark and dingy. There were 3 motor bikes in it, and by the wall was a sheet of mattress. She hugged me and kissed me on the mouth (very surprising). I wasn’t sure if I could go all the way. I tried to remove my trousers and underwear, but she stopped me there. OK. No FS then. She removed her bra and underwear for me to touch. She gave me BBBJ, and I finished with HJ. It’s not perfect, but certainly satisfied my curiosity about these places. Not sure if someone has posted on this area. Anyway, why not try, and report your findings.

Ashen
03-15-09, 15:57
Ashen, It is further south down that road, past the fishing place. On your right. And now there are two places next to one another. There is a third cafe (first as you head south) with a very cute young girl working selling coffee but only that, normal cafe. The ones I am talking about are next door nearly to the Nguyen Thi Thap intersection. When you walk past them the girls will beckon you to come in. I mark them approximately only on the map attached.

JDMany thanks for the prompt aid Johndao,

Will look for them when I can.

I'm holed up in q1 and it seems all the good action is further away though.

Cheers

Johndao
03-15-09, 18:02
On the way back from Q2, after Cau Saigon, I took a detour into D2. I have never been in this area before. But I "smelt" something sleazy about this area.

I can now see many cafes like these, and some of them have girls sitting in front of their shops. These girls were wearing colourful clothes. You can’t miss it. They are definitely cafe oms.

I picked one of them (No.164 UVK?) and walked in. This place (see pic1. Can you see a little gecko on the wall? Cute :)) had a few chairs and nothing else except a mandatory plant (you will notice there is always some plants in front of these cafes, presumably to obscure the views from outside) This girl Nhung greeted me and sat me in a worn chair. I ordered a cà phê sữa đá, but she had to fetch it from another place. Mama san came along and asked me to pay 150K upfront. I said I would pay afterwards, but this ugly woman in pyjamas was insistent. So I obliged.

Nhung (late 20s, 6/10 now. I reckon when she’s younger, she would easily be 8/10) took my hand very affectionate and to the room behind (see pic2). The room was dark and dingy. There were 3 motor bikes in it, and by the wall was a sheet of mattress. She hugged me and kissed me on the mouth (very surprising). I wasn’t sure if I could go all the way. I tried to remove my trousers and underwear, but she stopped me there. OK. No FS then. She removed her bra and underwear for me to touch. She gave me BBBJ, and I finished with HJ. It’s not perfect, but certainly satisfied my curiosity about these places. Not sure if someone has posted on this area. Anyway, why not try, and report your findings.Good job Joe! I'll check it out. Try to do it for 100k. All the places like this on Phan Van Tri will do it for 100k. Maybe proximity to wealthier areas makes it more expensive? Don't know. Would Nhung let you take pics?

Hey Joe, do you want to do a girl together? I mean like one in her mouth and one in her ass or pussy and then switch? Really wear her out and get great pics as well.

JD

Johndao
03-16-09, 03:31
Last year, I wrote about a place in Phu Nhuan, a Hotel, that had Massage on the top floor. If you look back to last March, you will see my report there.

Imagine also, my shock, to find the Parlor totally redone. Individual, separate rooms, with bath and sauna in each bathroom. Imagine also my shock to find that the Massage Girls actually give you a bath. Amazing. Good.Hey Hardlock,

Don't worry, we don't hold any poster responsible for our good time based on posts here. Someone may have a good time and someone else not so good at any place. Scene, girls, prices, attitudes are never consistent. We are just trying to give one another the benefits of what we have learned through our explorations, to save others time, effort and money.

I just misunderstood the quote above about the Thanh Nghia in Phu Nhuan. I thought it meant that the massage girls there actually give you a bath, when in fact, they don't. But I am hoping they do somewhere else and that I can find it!

JD

Joe Nailer
03-16-09, 12:52
Good job Joe! I'll check it out. Try to do it for 100k. All the places like this on Phan Van Tri will do it for 100k. Maybe proximity to wealthier areas makes it more expensive? Don't know. Would Nhung let you take pics?

Hey Joe, do you want to do a girl together? I mean like one in her mouth and one in her ass or pussy and then switch? Really wear her out and get great pics as well.

JD
Initially Nhung said 100K, but this greedy b**ch came and said 150K. 50K for cafe sua da, 50K for bla bla bla (in fact for her), and 50K for bla bla bla (for her again!). I know it's rubbish. But additional 50K (3USD or 2 quid) is not much. (I know you should not translate it into your own currency)

No. This area is not any wealthier than any other part in HCMC. It looks more like a shanty town. Because of its proximity to the river with loading wharves for barges, people are I think quite rough. This place can be related to many port towns around the world (London Dockland, Rotterdam, Yokohama etc) having ho houses to serve low ranking sailors and labourers for centuries.
If you can get it for 100K with this woman in PYJAMAS, I owe you a beer or 2 (cheapest one thou ;) ). But try other cafe oms in this area as well so that we can compare.

Ashen
03-16-09, 15:30
No. This area is not any wealthier than any other part in HCMC. It looks more like a shanty town. Because of its proximity to the river with loading wharves for barges, people are I think quite rough. This place can be related to many port towns around the world (London Dockland, Rotterdam, Yokohama etc) having ho houses to serve low ranking sailors and labourers for centuries.
If you can get it for 100K with this woman in PYJAMAS, I owe you a beer or 2 (cheapest one thou ;) ). But try other cafe oms in this area as well so that we can compare.Read Joe Nailer's report yesterday, had some time to spare just after lunch and decided to have a look see.

Excellent directions given by Joe Nailer. Went to the same cafe as Joe Nailer did (Not hard to spot from the striped jersey backs on its chairs) though I must say that further down the street, there were lots of variety in the other cafes, to choose from.

Lady in PJs asked for a 100k initially, but after realizing I was a foreigner (japanese) she suddenly increased to 150k. Managed to haggle it down to 120k though.

My con gai was just above 18, approaching 19, a little chubby and cherubic. Decent titties with really light coloured nips.

After some teasing and groping, initiated for me to move towards the back room. Pulled up her top, took off her bra and dropped her shorts and panties for me to fondle whilst she gave a toothy but very keen BBBJ.

Would have preferred someone a little older with more technique though, but whatever this girl lacked in the skill department, she made up with her enthusiasm. But alas, I couldn't respond to her oral coaxing. The lady in PJs was already banging on the door after 25mins. I gave up, tipped the girl 10k which she appreciated with a hug and peck on the cheek and left.

Feeling still frustrated, I headed further down the street (a minute's walk to 178UVK) to a hotel MP hoping to get proper relief. 80K ticket with a HJ tip of 100k. No BBBJ from this MP though.

Will be trying the rest of the cafes down the street soon.

Cheers

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Member #2234
03-17-09, 09:54
Hi guys, today I decided to go to Thanh Nghia on Ng Kiem to see what it is all about. As the older members of this forum that have met me and know me they will know that although I am not Vietnamese I do speak very fluent Vietnamese, so I found out all the correct prices/ins & outs etc. of the place.

OK so I went there at lunchtime today, when you go in and say to the reception MASSA he takes you to a lift and presses the fifth floor button for you. Once you reach fifth floor another reception greets you and asks if you want NORMAL or VIP room. Normal being 100k and VIP being 200k, BOTH rooms are the same, Normal is for 1 hour and VIP is for 2 hours.

Normal service the girl is not supposed to bathe you, VIP service the girls job is to bathe you (so if she don't then DEMAND).

I only went for the Normal service myself, but the massage girl told me all the rules etc. and explained the VIP service as I asked her.

I bathed myself, got a good massage, HJ at the end, got to grope and finger her, tipped 100k at the end (that is standard tip for local Vietnamese, I am not Vietnamese but I speak the language and I am Asian so they think I am local). She told me normal tip price for locals if taking the VIP service is 200k as it is double time.

All in all the service was ok, but only DOWN point compared to the likes of FESTIVAL etc. is the steam room and bath is in the room, so another words if you want to spend half an hour in the steam room then that gets deducted off your 1hr room service.

Well hope this info helps.


EDIT: oh forgot to say, as for tipping, it is the same as all other places, you write the tip amount on the piece of paper the girl gives you, no money is exchanged in the room to the girl, if the girl told anyone that then she is just ripping the company off as for every 100k he gets tipped (on paper) she has to give 30k to the company (so she only gets 70k tip)

Riki Riki
03-18-09, 17:17
Anyone know of good places in Da Lat?

OzzieSuds
03-19-09, 03:02
Anyone know of good places in Da Lat?

There is a thread for other areas and if you use the search function you will find information about massage parlours in the hotels.

Bartchamdo
04-11-09, 13:02
This afternoon I spent some time checking out 178A Lam Van Ben as well as a variety of hot tocs on Nguyen Thi Thap. Thanks for the great directions - they were easy to find. Also very easy to get services besides a "hair cut" or straightforward "massage." I wonder if anyone goes there for any reason besides extras.

I was never given a price of 100,000, though I pushed for it. Best I could negotiate at any of these places was 150,000 or 200,000, which was disappointing. I suspect this is all about how much Vietnamese you know. I know almost no Vietnamese, so this naturally put me at a disadvantage in negotiating.

The other disappointment was that none of the ladies had very good technique. Without exception the routine seemed to be a bit of excessively rushed shallow head bobbing, followed by an extremely loud spitting session, followed by a bit more mediocre oral sex, then more spitting, etc. I've gotten blowjobs in a number of different countries and I've never encountered this before. It was pretty comical, actually. And it wasn't just my session or one particular hot toc - I heard loud spitting frequently at several different places coming from several different ladies. I'm not sure I'd hurry back to these places. Is this pretty standard as far as what to expect from HCMC hot tocs? Maybe I should try hair wash places or hot tocs in other parts of town.

Mik Hcmc
04-24-09, 18:16
I went there a couple days ago since it was a popular place on this forum, I parked my bike in a empty parking lot, walked upstairs then into the lift to the 5th floor, asked about vip and was taken to the 6th floor. The massuest was not very pretty (compared to my usual place) she couldn't speak a word of english (thats usual) She turned on the tv, set it to some soap opera, run the bath (without washing all the dirt and hair from the tub) after I drained it and washed it, refilled and she bathed me in ankle deep water. I noticed the curtains on both doors (entrance and bathroom) are tied together in the middle. I'm not shy so it didn't bother me much, I asked her to close the curtains and she just moved them around a bit.

I lay down on the table and she began the slapping and a halfassed massage.
She then climbed ontop of my back and began the jumping on the spine and cracking my spine. Normally this is fine but the way she was doing it felt like she was jumping and taking great pleasure in causing me discomfort. I told her 5 times to stop and she just laughed like it was a great joke. After the 5th time I rolled over, yelled at her to get out, I got up, she motioned to get another massuest but I was too pissed off by then, I changed and left the room. The attendant/manager come to see what the fuss was about, I told him she was no good, told her 5 times to stop that jumping. All he cared about was the 200k. I had already pushed the button on the lift so it was ready for me to go. I went back to the desk, and continued my explanation. The girl was giggling like it was something great. I directed a couple "duma's" (doh-maa) and other words that wiped the grin off her face.
The guy then started taking me more seriously. He still insisted on paying 200k for probably 15minutes use in the vip room. I tossed a 50k note his way and stormed out into the lift.

I was tempted to workout how much $/min the room was worth but took the lift downstairs and was expecting some resistance but the few guys/attendants saw the look and my body language and stayed far away. The bike attendant reluctantly approached me for my ticket though he did remember me from a few minutes ealier. Gave him my ticket and pulled my own bike out. Hopped on and rode off.

That was the first and only time I will ever go to that massage parlour.

Note that this is my experience, No doubt that others will have had great experiences/times/massages but for me it was the opposite.

I'll stick to my usual spot with bbj beginning ending.

I hope that others will have a better time/experience than I did.


Hi guys, today I decided to go to Thanh Nghia on Ng Kiem to see what it is all about. As the older members of this forum that have met me and know me they will know that although I am not Vietnamese I do speak very fluent Vietnamese, so I found out all the correct prices/ins & outs etc. of the place.

OK so I went there at lunchtime today, when you go in and say to the reception MASSA he takes you to a lift and presses the fifth floor button for you. Once you reach fifth floor another reception greets you and asks if you want NORMAL or VIP room. Normal being 100k and VIP being 200k, BOTH rooms are the same, Normal is for 1 hour and VIP is for 2 hours.

Normal service the girl is not supposed to bathe you, VIP service the girls job is to bathe you (so if she don't then DEMAND).

I only went for the Normal service myself, but the massage girl told me all the rules etc. and explained the VIP service as I asked her.

I bathed myself, got a good massage, HJ at the end, got to grope and finger her, tipped 100k at the end (that is standard tip for local Vietnamese, I am not Vietnamese but I speak the language and I am Asian so they think I am local). She told me normal tip price for locals if taking the VIP service is 200k as it is double time.

All in all the service was ok, but only DOWN point compared to the likes of FESTIVAL etc. is the steam room and bath is in the room, so another words if you want to spend half an hour in the steam room then that gets deducted off your 1hr room service.

Well hope this info helps.

EDIT: oh forgot to say, as for tipping, it is the same as all other places, you write the tip amount on the piece of paper the girl gives you, no money is exchanged in the room to the girl, if the girl told anyone that then she is just ripping the company off as for every 100k he gets tipped (on paper) she has to give 30k to the company (so she only gets 70k tip)

Johndao
04-29-09, 02:50
I went there (Thanh Nghia) a couple days ago since it was a popular place on this forumMik,

I sure hope you did not think I was giving any kind of endorsement to this place. I panned it, said I had a terrible time and left before my time was up. Only Hardluck seems to enjoy, as he likes being beaten roughly there. I surely don't see how you could think Thanh Nghia is a popular place on this forum. That's what the forum is for, to help one another enjoy the good and avoid the bad. Festival is a popular place on this forum although I have never tried it as I am not a big fan of the HJ.

JD

Johndao
04-29-09, 03:45
I happened by the cafe om on Lam Van Ben that I wrote about a while back (with map), and saw the girl I had seen on my previous and only visit. Her name is Lieu and I mention this again because I liked her. I went back a few times but did not see anyone interesting. Lieu is noteworthy because 1) she is ok looking 2) she has a good attitude 3) she is hard-working on the BJ (she was for me) 4) she has incredible long nipples and 5) she has insanely long, straight pussy hair.

So if you are ok with down and dirty, semi-public with chickens running around, fan outdoors, have an hour or so and about 120k Dong to spare, check it out.

But don't write back and say I told about some fabulous, cheap BJ place with gorgeous young girls who give awesome BJ. I am not saying that. But I enjoyed my one time there, getting blown by Lieu.

Mik Hcmc
04-29-09, 12:26
Johndao,

I understand that you were not giving any endorsement out for the TN MP. I like to go experience as many places and make my own mind up, I fully understand one mans favorite place will be another's nightmare. I just had to go experience it for myself. It was a right place (or wrong place) at the right time as I was on a bike ride and happened to come across it. Ah well onto the next MP.


Mik,

I sure hope you did not think I was giving any kind of endorsement to this place. I panned it, said I had a terrible time and left before my time was up. Only Hardluck seems to enjoy, as he likes being beaten roughly there. I surely don't see how you could think Thanh Nghia is a popular place on this forum. That's what the forum is for, to help one another enjoy the good and avoid the bad. Festival is a popular place on this forum although I have never tried it as I am not a big fan of the HJ.

JD

Hardlock1
04-29-09, 15:35
lol johndao, i haven't ever been beaten roughly at thanh nghia. i have had some bad moments there, but nobody has beaten my ass up yet. lol you are right though, in the respect that the treatment seems to vary from customer to customer. it seems to me that when an occidental walks in the door, it is open season on "money scalping". and the level of service seems to vary greatly from one girl to another.

me? i just related my high points inside that place. i have not related the really low points, of which i have had a couple of those also. now, in my own defense, i will say that i have only spent about 9 years of my life in asia, in one country or another. it has never changed and has always been the same. asian women are somehow, for whatever reason, in love with my skin, the texture. i have had asian women sit and rub the skin on my ass literally for hours, oohing and aweing about it. hell, i don't know why, i just know it happens. i have been told by several asian women that i have a "million dollar cock". i don't know why, but it seems to impress them. thirdly, old, young, pretty, ugly, or just somewhere in between, i love asian women. i can look at a normal, somewhat non-attractive asian woman, and my eyes can somehow see her as she was on her most beautiful day of her life. if she has inner beauty, it can somehow transform itself onto her face, and make her beautiful to me. my regard and appreciation of asian women is so damn high that even i am awed by its depth at times. i can't help it, i don't apologize for it, and i never shall. so, suffice it to say, that even as old and used up as i am, there is something inside me that can transcend the time and distance between myself and almost any asian woman, and go right to her heart. they feel it, and most have reciprocated in kind. it is what it is. i really don't know what it is, i just know it is there, and that it works. my doctor here in california insists i go to a physical therapist. as i age, my war ailments seem to get worse. my physical therapist is asian. i have been to see her 5 times already. last week, i went for a visit, and when we got into the room, she immediately got naked, and began to suck my cock. i was shocked. then, she wanted to make love. the whole time, i was asking myself, what in the fuck does she want with an old war-horse like me? my god, can you just imagine it? anyway, our experiences vary, according to the girl, the place or the situation. me? i sit here and admire you and your escapades there and envy the hell outta you at times. lol you will not be fortunate to live long enough to see me criticize another member here in isg. somehow, i don't think that is why jackson set up this place. it seems to be more for the uninhibited sharing of mongering information between us guys, to the betterment and ultimate satisfaction of us all. three cheers for jackson!

my hero!

Johndao
05-08-09, 03:27
lol johndao, i haven't ever been beaten roughly at thanh nghia. i have had some bad moments there, but nobody has beaten my ass up yet. you will not be fortunate to live long enough to see me criticize another member here in isg. somehow, i don't think that is why jackson set up this place. it seems to be more for the uninhibited sharing of mongering information between us guys, to the betterment and ultimate satisfaction of us all. three cheers for jackson! hey hardluck,

i was not 'criticizing another member. ' just meant that you like the rough massage there. kind of like they are beating or cracking you.common in vn but most people don't seem to like it. you do. that's good.

btw, great experience on the asian physical therapist there in the us. reminds you of being back here, right? just too easy. .

jd

Hardlock1
05-08-09, 14:50
hey hardluck,

i was not 'criticizing another member. ' just meant that you like the rough massage there. kind of like they are beating or cracking you.common in vn but most people don't seem to like it. you do. that's good.

btw, great experience on the asian physical therapist there in the us. reminds you of being back here, right? just too easy.

jd i know you were not criticizing me, johndao. i said that sorta tongue-in-cheek as it were. lol and yes, i do like the rough massage a bit, because specifically, one of my war wounds is a bunch of damaged nerves in my back and right hip. causes my back to ache unmercifully and my legs to ache also. the rough massage helps. sometimes the girl will crack my back and make me feel better for weeks at the time.

yeah, every time i see a pretty asian woman here, i flash back to vietnam. i can't help it. then i start to grin, and think of my experiences there. once in a while, i remember your video of little tiny mai, saying "dau lam" while you had at her and i start to do a belly-laugh, and envy you more. lol

two days ago, john, i went to see my physical therapist again. only, she wasnt there. bummer. there was a new therapist there and when we started talking, i found out she was from korea. i spoke to her in korean and she went into shock. well, we spent an hour talking about korea and my time there, and about how she missed it. in her language, of course. my god she knows what she is doing, and i am still feeling wonderful after that massage and workout. needless to say, before my time was up, and in korean, i told her how pretty she was and how sexy she looked. i touched her, somewhat inappropriatly, and she touched me back! lol the next thing i know, she whispers to me in my ear and asked me if i liked to eat pussy! i never said another word. i just showed her. and the obvious answer to whether she knows how to give a bj? ask my dick. he is still smiling. so yeah, i miss the hell outta vietnam, but not as much as i could be missing it. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

john, i want to ask you a question. you have the experiences of mai, trang, nguyet, dung and phuong behind you now, so you should be able to answer me this one question. making love is intensely personal to a viet woman, isn't it? and, because they are special, each and every one of them, that makes it intensely personal to you, don't it? what i mean is, when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? now, looking back on it, it wasnt just fucking, was it? it was an intensely personal experience you will always cherish, huh? am i right? with viet women, that is how it is with me. i'm just asking, john, lol. you don't have to answer if you don't want!

jackson for president!

h is out

Johndao
05-12-09, 04:17
John, I want to ask you a question. You have the experiences of Mai, Trang, Nguyet, Dung and Phuong behind you now, so you should be able to answer me this one question. Making love is intensely personal to a Viet woman, isn't it? And, because they are special, each and every one of them, that makes it intensely personal to you, don't it? What I mean is, when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together? Now, looking back on it, it wasn't just fucking, was it? It was an intensely personal experience you will always cherish, huh? Am I right? With Viet women, that is how it is with me. I'm just asking, John, LOL. You don't have to answer if you don't want!No, these are just girls I want to slam the hell out of, fuck them as hard and fast and long and deep as I can. Shove my cock down their throat till they gag, squeeze it into their ass if I can, spank their butt cheeks red. And I want to take pics and vid of doing it and show them to you. All for 150 or 200k. You saw Mai on video. You know what I want. What you describe above, I don't have pictures of. At least not that I will show. Those are different girls, different times.

OzzieSuds
05-12-09, 06:48
I think that Hardlock and Johndao are talking at crossed purposes here a little because Johndao has been chasing and reporting on the short time experiences to be found on the streets and elsewhere whereas Hardlock is looking more at overnighters and longer term experiences.

I would suspect that Hardlock and I have about 20 years on Johndao and that largely explains the differences in our tastes.

Whilst the ST experiences that Johndao has described can certainly be had the more leisurely GFE experiences that Hardlock mentions can also be had.

And, if I am buying it, I am quite happy to pay more than Johndao has mentioned in order to ensure the longer term GFE experience.

Each to his own.

Ozirob
05-12-09, 08:26
when you think back on it, on each experience with them, doesn't it give you a warm glow inside, and a certain fondness for each of them and that time you shared together?


I stopped to think about this a bit. And yes, absolutely my Vietnamese experiences have had this effect on me more often than, say, those i've had in Singapore Indonesia and Malaysia. I couldn't say exactly why that is so, but for me it definately is so.

I'm looking forward to being back there in the next couple of months, only concern is how to juggle those several intensly personal experiences.... they all want to travel around with me! :-)

Ozirob

Hardlock1
05-12-09, 15:05
Thanks JohnDao,

I appreciate your candor. And you know? Its okay, for as Sudsoz said, to each his own. I do suspect that we have about 15 or 20 years on you and might have slowed down just a step to the point where we savor the smells and tastes a little more than the mere substance of an encounter. I also suspect that in time, one of those little cuties is going to whack you pretty good, and a light will turn on and start shining inside you. It is then that you are going to think, "hey, those assholes were right! " Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Keep mongering my friend. We all appreciate you.

H is out

Johndao
05-12-09, 19:06
i think that hardlock and johndao are talking at crossed purposes here a little because johndao has been chasing and reporting on the short time experiences to be found on the streets and elsewhere whereas hardlock is looking more at overnighters and longer term experiences.

i would suspect that hardlock and i have about 20 years on johndao and that largely explains the differences in our tastes.

whilst the st experiences that johndao has described can certainly be had the more leisurely gfe experiences that hardlock mentions can also be had.

and, if i am buying it, i am quite happy to pay more than johndao has mentioned in order to ensure the longer term gfe experience.

each to his own.hey suds and hardlock,

if you guys have 20 years on me then you will be peering into your eighth decade next year!

we all don't really know each other except for our posts here, but it seems you are assuming that the totality of my sexual life and experiences here in saigon are with the girls i post and describe. in terms of time, that is a really small part of my life. in terms of money, even less. but in terms of what i take pictures of and send to strangers, along with the real story, it is considerable.

i go slow, i wine and dine, i take my time, i seduce. i have gfe, but real gfe, not one i pay for. if i want to pay, i don't want to spend much time and i don't need to spend much money to be satisfied. i get what i want and pictures too.

i wanted to comment about 'short-time' vs a girl who stays overnight, but well, if you think that a girl who just stays overnight as you pay her is not short-time, well. . . . i've never done it and i hope i never will.

i like to take pictures and i like to post them. but what kind of girl lets you take pics like this and could not care less what you do with them? guys, where are your pictures? i like pictures and the real story. that's why i am here, on isg.

jd

Alwayshard45
06-03-09, 05:54
Follow closely. From D1 I made a right on ĐBP and crossed over the river "Rạch Thị Nghè" via the "Cầu Điện Biên Phủ" Bridge. This will take you into D. BT, where all the Họt Tọc's are at that are talked about on a different thread. If you continue on until the roundabout where ĐBP meets Xô Viết Nghệ Tĩnh Street, you will want to make a left onto XvNT. For your first time follow this exactly, as it can be a bit confusing. Continue on XvNT until you come to a Y. STAY TO THE LEFT and continue going straight. This is now Highway 13 and its a one way. I am not sure what the actual name of the street is, but its NOT XvNT. After awhile you will see another bridge. But BEFORE you get to the bridge you will see away of turning left and jumping on the other one way street back towards ĐBP called "Đinh Bộ Lĩnh St". Its also a one way and you can see it coming off the same bridge you would have taken, if you remained going straight. This street has a BUNCH of "massage" places on both sides of the street. I do believe that the left side has more than the right, but don't quote me on that. Its a large road with several lanes.

I came here yesterday and again today and went to two different spots. Sorry guys, I don't remember the address number. You will see a bunch of girls wearing short dresses/skirts inside most of these places. Similar to the haircut places you walk in pay a small fee, ranging from 50k-70k dong for a massage. Both places I went to took me upstairs to an open massage area and ask me to take my shirt off. One time I was alone and another there was one other Vietnamese guy who by the looks of it, just got there before I did. They dim the lights and start with a basic massage on your legs and chest while also massaging the male member. After a bit they pull your pants down for a good BBBJ til CIM.

Overal good experience if you want some more variety. It does take a little time to get there, but on a positive not, there are a lot of places to eat and drink around there as well and also lots of Karaoke. I tipped 100k dong and that was that. Easy transaction for 160k total.

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Tom Strander
06-05-09, 10:17
Follow closely. From D1 I made a right on ĐBP and crossed over the river "Rạch Thị Nghè" via the "Cầu Điện Biên Phủ" Bridge. This will take you into D. BT, where all the Họt T....

After a bit they pull your pants down for a good BBBJ til CIM.

Overal good experience if you want some more variety. It does take a little time to get there, but on a positive not, there are a lot of places to eat and drink around there as well and also lots of Karaoke. I tipped 100k dong and that was that. Easy transaction for 160k total.Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated!

Now Finished
06-07-09, 15:59
Would like to know the same.

Went to the last shop before passing the small small bridge. BBBJ, but most of the time HJ, no CIM.

Will be in hcm end of the week, will try other places too.

Maybe you can give some advice.

Big thx


Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated!

Alwayshard45
06-14-09, 05:45
Please let me know which one you visited that did the CIM. I visited the first shop on the left with girls out front and the last shop on the left right before crossing the small small bridge. They give the BBBJ but no CIM for me. I have gone to the shops where all the girls seem to be wearing the same uniform with brighter lighting. These are all on the left side of the street. Then there are the places that seem slightly darker and the girls are not all necessarily wearing the same outfit. I haven't tried these because it is more difficult to see the girls from outside. Is this where you have experienced the CIM? If you could jot down the address number of the places with the CIM or describe in detail the front. It would be appreciated!I have tried the one just before that small bridge and I did recieve CIM. I have also been to other places, farther down, after the bridge on the left hand side. There are a couple more just before you land back on DBP. All of them also provided with CIM. The last massage place before the end of the road also has a couple girls with some HUGE viet tits. real of course. however, they charge more, it was 100k entry fee. Also with this difference, they provided a good massage (30-45 mins) and a shampoo. Worth the extra dong.

Hope that helps. Sucks, for the both of you, were not able to receive CIM.

Mikle
06-25-09, 22:28
Hi guys,

I really appreciate your contributions about these BJ places, and I agree the CIM-NO CIM dispute is not irrelevant.

But. Let's say we understood the directions, as a newbie going there (with no local language) what should we do? Expect? Pay? What is going to happen, in your opinion?

Mik Hcmc
06-26-09, 18:07
When I was first riding around saigon learning the place (still getting lost and confused) I stopped in at one of these hot toc/massage shops on the mentioned street. I was greeted by a english speaking girl/receptionist/cashier who was very pretty and was showing me brief glimpses of her lacy knickers. Anyway I get lead upstairs to a big room, which is curtained off into stalls, the girl who was sleeping on the bed next to me was told to leave, There was a lockbox in the stall which I put my watch, wallet, phone, keys and locked and kept the key around my wrist. Anyway I get a crappy massage that was more like poking than anything else, then I get asked if theres anything else I want, I motioned for BJ and the girl looked at me like I was from Mars.

I end up with a HJ.

Cost me around 300k for the HJ, and 160K for the entry fee.

No shower, no clean towel, no refreshment only the sour taste of being ripped off.
If you do go to these local establishments then try to speak some of the language.

I stick to my massage parlour at Son Tra Hotel (I think thats the spelling) Its located on Vo Thi Sau before Pasteur on the right. Theres some roadworks on that street now so it will be harder to see. 70k entry with use of the steambath, showers, spa, sauna and massage with BJ for around 300k. The girls will try for 500k but I just tell them 100/200k and settle on 300k. They give the old sad face/puppydog eyes routine but will do it for 300k. VN speakers will probably get for less. You can get their phone numbers and make arrangements to meet after.

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Ngu Ngon
06-26-09, 23:21
You've hit my circuit. Son Tra: yeah. Girls a little old. Around 28-35 I'd say. I'm western but speak VN pretty well. Massage nothing special (not really into massage anyway. Perhaps because I've never had a good one). Then they stroke "the bird" and try to negotiate. I act uninterested. "up to you". This usually confuses them, but I don't really like to agree a price in advance. Just tell them I'll give them a tip. I've typically tipped VND150, 000 for a good hand job, VND200, 000 for blow job. The last time she was certainly not happy with VND200, 000 for a BJ. Kept moaning and scowling all the way to the cashier.

Got annoyed by this and haven't been back since. But a relatively simple and safe environment for a newcomer.

Nearby is "Huong Binh" pho (yellow fascia), opposite the end of Pham Ngoc Thach. Proper Pho. Much nicer than the famous one in Pasteur street around the corner (but no English or bananas). Or flirt with the bored waitress (always pretty and in nice shorts/short skirts) at the Miss Saigon place, corner of Vo Thi Sau/Pham Ngoc Thach. Or some nice ice cream at the Goody just a little way down Pham Ngoc Thach.

Legova
07-01-09, 08:57
. I have been told by several Asian women that I have a "million dollar cock". ..Is that because it is all green and crinkled?

Sorry, I couldn't let this one go by without a shot.

Mik Hcmc
07-04-09, 12:32
You've hit my circuit. Son Tra: yeah. Girls a little old. Around 28-35 I'd say. I'm western but speak VN pretty well. Massage nothing special (not really into massage anyway. Perhaps because I've never had a good one). Then they stroke "the bird" and try to negotiate. I act uninterested. "up to you". This usually confuses them, but I don't really like to agree a price in advance. Just tell them I'll give them a tip. I've typically tipped VND150, 000 for a good hand job, VND200, 000 for blow job. The last time she was certainly not happy with VND200, 000 for a BJ. Kept moaning and scowling all the way to the cashier.I'm always there so I get treated fine by the girls and the managers (day and night)

I go for a steam bath for around 5-10mins, shower off and then manager asks me what girl I want, I have been seeing #9 for a few times now. She gives a very strong massage (which I like, others may like a softer touch) and gives a nice BJ with some rimming, licking the balls etc. Last night she had come to give me a massage, she removed her bra and wasn't wearing any panties under her skirt/shorts.

She pulls up her top and I see the smallest nipples I've ever seen and the moment I give them a tweek they grow into small nubs. I pulled her pants down while she was giving me a BJ and was fingering her, I got to give a couple squirts in her mouth before she realized and spat it out, all the while still stroking and milking me. After she cleaned me and herself up one of her friends was walking back after finishing massaging a customer, she knew me from before an enters my booth, she goes straight for my cock, pretending to kiss and suck it. The 2 girls start to play around.

As I'm leaving she's telling me to take me to hotel for boom boom.

I have a great time there, lots of fun and swearing (mostly by me) and laughing. I tip 300k for the massage and the 70k joiners fee.

I definately will be back!

Ngu Ngon
07-05-09, 10:41
Thanks! You've inspired me to go back. Incidentally have you ever tried that place on Vo Thi Sau advertising rooms to rent? "Phong cho thue" roughly opposite the end of Pham Ngoc Thach? Always struck me as a bit unusual (for the centre). Very openly advertising rates for 1 hour, 2 hours etc.

Lakeoffire1
07-06-09, 15:23
On the way back from Q2, after Cau Saigon, I took a detour into D2. I have never been in this area before. But I "smelt" something sleazy about this area. I slowed down and look the both side of the street. I noticed an old woman (around 40) at a hot toc place waving at me when I just drove passed it. I continued on till the junction and turned right into Ung Van Khiem Street. (On Google Maps, enter “ho chi minh city, ung van khiem”)

I was still going slowly. Amongst god knows everything, I noticed a few small cafes at the both sides of the road. They looked suspicious. Very suspicious. I made a mental note of these places and drove on. I turned around at the point where the street become less busy, and drove back down the same road towards the point I started.

I can now see many cafes like these, and some of them have girls sitting in front of their shops. These girls were wearing colourful clothes. You can’t miss it. They are definitely cafe oms.

I picked one of them and walked in. This place (see pic1. Can you see a little gecko on the wall? Cute :)) had a few chairs and nothing else except a mandatory plant (you will notice there is always some plants in front of these cafes, presumably to obscure the views from outside) This girl greeted me and sat me in a worn chair. I ordered a cà phê sữa đá, but she had to fetch it from another place. Mama san came along and asked me to pay 150K upfront. I said I would pay afterwards, but this ugly woman in pyjamas was insistent. So I obliged.

She (late 20s, 6/10 now. I reckon when she’s younger, she would easily be 8/10) took my hand very affectionate and to the room behind (see pic2). The room was dark and dingy. There were 3 motor bikes in it, and by the wall was a sheet of mattress. She hugged me and kissed me on the mouth (very surprising). I wasn’t sure if I could go all the way. I tried to remove my trousers and underwear, but she stopped me there. OK. No FS then. She removed her bra and underwear for me to touch. She gave me BBBJ, and I finished with HJ. It’s not perfect, but certainly satisfied my curiosity about these places. Not sure if someone has posted on this area. Anyway, why not try, and report your findings.I didn't see your report before but I tried it out on Saturday afternoon, stopped in a café name ("sau di" or something like that) and there was a cutie inside, 20yo with huge breast, no hair on her legs (I hate that). She sat near me and was really sweet. I thought I will have a nice moment with her then, but when I asked if she was able to perform a "massage", she said she didn't know. I was a bit disappointed. Some of the cafe om are not providing BJ? Any guys had this experience before?

To change my mind then I headed to DBL but stopped finally in a hot toc on Bui Dinh Tuy. I got a hair massage with shampoo and then my extra service. She wanted to do just a HJ at the beggining, pretexting she didn't know how to suck. But finally she executed herself and I had the surprise to got a CIM with her. Nice. I was ready then to hang out all night with my friends.

Mik Hcmc
07-06-09, 15:32
Thanks! You've inspired me to go back. Incidentally have you ever tried that place on Vo Thi Sau advertising rooms to rent? "Phong cho thue" roughly opposite the end of Pham Ngoc Thach? Always struck me as a bit unusual (for the centre). Very openly advertising rates for 1 hour, 2 hours etc.I'm not too good speaking VN so I just to to the places that are MP's.

I don't bother with the ones around the city center/tourist areas, prefer the ones out in the suburbs.

I see lots of "love hotels" with advertising for times and prices. Not sure if they provide the entertainment or you have to BYO!

Hardlock1
07-06-09, 19:24
Is that because it is all green and crinkled?

Sorry, I couldn't let this one go by without a shot.We are here in ISG, already discussing our baser desires and accomplishments. That is about as base as I want to get. LOL And, last time I looked it wasnt wrinkled or any off-color that might indicate Gangrene or some such malady. It looked normal to me, but then again, just exactly what is normal?

Suffice it to say, I was not bragging on myself, as both my Father and John Holmes could make me go to the back of the bus. Asian women like cocks that are bigger than the typical Asian cock, but not too damn big. Or, that has been my assessment over the years. That is all I was saying.

Anyway, I do understand your feelings. LOL I set myself up for that one, you took your shot. Good for you.

H is out.

Crazyazn
07-07-09, 06:38
To change my mind then I headed to DBL but stopped finally in a hot toc on Bui Dinh Tuy. I got a hair massage with shampoo and then my extra service. She wanted to do just a HJ at the beggining, pretexting she didn't know how to suck. But finally she executed herself and I had the surprise to got a CIM with her. Nice. I was ready then to hang out all night with my friends.What's the name of the shop and address?

Lakeoffire1
07-07-09, 12:41
What's the name of the shop and address? I don't know the name but it's easy to get there, when you are on DBL, you turn right to BDT and it's the first one on the right side. Again I had to insist to get a BJ (just be strong and you will get your pleasure there.)

On 3 tested in this area this is area, that's the first one I got CIM (but everywhere at least BJ). Total of the damage: always 200000 (including the fees and the girl), I'm caucasian, always more difficult to discuss then asian. But it's still ok.

Enjoy

Poppasan
07-18-09, 01:02
I am sorry but I am not up with the abbreviations. Can you be clearer with the address. I want to try this when I got back in 2 weeks.





I don't know the name but it's easy to get there, when you are on DBL, you turn right to BDT and it's the first one on the right side. Again I had to insist to get a BJ (just be strong and you will get your pleasure there.)

On 3 tested in this area this is area, that's the first one I got CIM (but everywhere at least BJ). Total of the damage: always 200000 (including the fees and the girl), I'm caucasian, always more difficult to discuss then asian. But it's still ok.

Enjoy

Wendella
07-18-09, 04:37
I am sorry but I am not up with the abbreviations. Can you be clearer with the address. I want to try this when I got back in 2 weeks.

DBL is Dinh Bo Linh out in BT (Binh Thanh district)
I dont' know what DBT is but looking on a map it'll intersect with the above
BJ stands for blow job
CIM is cum in mouth I believe
;)

Lakeoffire1
07-18-09, 11:29
DBL is Dinh Bo Linh out in BT (Binh Thanh district)

I dont' know what DBT is but looking on a map it'll intersect with the above
BJ stands for blow job

CIM is cum in mouth I believe.Thanks, it's exactly that and for BDT, it means Bui Dinh Tui, not sure about the spelling but i has intersection with DBL

Mik Hcmc
07-20-09, 09:16
After passing a black sign with white writting several times and the curiosity getting the better of me I went in and had a look lastnight.

Its located on Nguyen Xi just before Dinh Bo Linh (if your heading towards the hot tocs on DBL its left side) I come from No Trang Long side so its on my right after the traffic lights at DBL intersection.

I can't remember the name or the number but its basically a shop front extending back to glass doors with a small lounge/goldfish type room. Park your bike indoors.

I parked up and a chubby girl was talking to me, I just nodded and gave a few yes's, walked inside and followed one elderly man (must have been getting his nightly "medicine" upstairs. The girl he was with was a stunner compared to the chunky one who was pushing me along, I was hoping the pretty one in a black dress in the entrance would be doing the massage but no luck. I guess I could have requested her but she was busy eating dinner so perhaps next time (if there is a next time)

Go upstairs, into a room with 3 beds. These beds are made so you lie on your back, not flat like in massage parlors. I removed my shirt and got told to lie down (with jeans still on)

The girl who brought me in had gone to the toilet and returned. Puts up a curtain that ran from one wall to the other.

She gets the wet towels and starts wiping me down (whats with these wet towels in vn? ) and wash's the old fella.

She flopped her tits out and dropped her skirt revealing some old panties with the fabric pilling (I think thats the term you use to describe the small balls on the fabric) Not to mention the stretchmarks and a not to sexy gut. Anyway got on with the business at hand, short bobing motions and some stroking with the hand. I gave her a unexpected CIM and she spat it out with some very loud sounds, I was laughing, however she took it all in her stride, never made a ugly face, even had a giggle about it, wiped me clean with yes you guessed it. Another wet towel, helped me pull my jeans up and tried to engage me in conversation regarding how good she was at BJ's. I just put my shirt on and went to the bathroom and washed my face and hands, walked downstairs (the old man had finnished his BJ too and was very happy). Paid 50k for the entry fee and 300k for the BJ.

If you can speak vn-ese then you will end up with one of the more pretty girls. Basically its just another hot toc with more hidden parking I guess.

The girls there ranged from a 3 (my one) to around 7-8's However beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The ages of these girls would be around 20-under 30's.

Someone else who can speak better vn may enjoy it. Good for a straight up BJ and be of on your way.

Johndao
07-21-09, 17:25
Paid 50k for the entry fee and 300k for the BJ.

If you can speak vn-ese then you will end up with one of the more pretty girls. Basically its just another hot toc with more hidden parking I guess.

The girls there ranged from a 3 (my one) to around 7-8's However beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The ages of these girls would be around 20-under 30's.

Someone else who can speak better vn may enjoy it. Good for a straight up BJ and be of on your way.
Ridiculously high tip at 300 for a BJ in this place with this girl. Just totally not what they expect at all. They would get 100k max or more likely 80k for a total 150k. Why give her 300k, why? Pointless throwing money at them and reinforcing the impression of rich foreigners just throwing money away.

Mik Hcmc
07-22-09, 01:07
Ridiculously high tip at 300 for a BJ in this place with this girl. Just totally not what they expect at all. They would get 100k max or more likely 80k for a total 150k. Why give her 300k, why? Pointless throwing money at them and reinforcing the impression of rich foreigners just throwing money away.Like I said I dont speak the language so I know I'll be getting stung, This is Vietnam remember. Yes I'll be the first to admit it isn't good but until my language improves I'll be paying "tourist" prices.

This place I had thought was a proper massage parlour, not a blow job stop n go. I much prefer a massage and bj than visiting these "quicky marts"

Mik Hcmc
08-03-09, 12:04
Went back to a hotel/kareoke/massage that I had seen on one of my rides exploring the backstreets of Go Vap. Went down Nguyen Oanh and didn't see many massage/steambath type services until I saw a sign posted advertising there was one such place 150m down Nguyen Van Dung. The road was more like rough stones on a dirt/muddy base. I went down the bumpy road and hoped my watch would keep working after travelling along it. Theres a few trucks using the road so take care. Get to the entrance, park my bike and the security guard spoke a few words of english and directed me towards the massage building.

I'm walking down the road and passing a undercover eating area/resturant with a bar. Behind the bar was a beautiful girl. Not sure if she was manager or bartender.

I keep walking towards the back of the hotel complex. As I approach the entrance of the massage shop a man in a business shirt and trousers introduces himself to me, asking me if I had been here before. Not sure where he is from but speaks some english and told me he will get a "good girl" to take care of me. If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that well. Anyway I give it a go.

Its a nice place from first glimpses. The walls are nicely painted, nice lighting and flooring, Fishtank to your left as you come in.

Theres only 2 male attendants. I followed one. Straight to the VIP room. I had seen a price list on the counter beforehand with some prices. VIP Room 200k Bodymassage 100k The room was very clean and modern. Couldn't be more than 3-6months old. The steambath and sauna cubicles on the left wall were clean, The wood in the wet sauna was still new, not half rotten like other places. On the right is a locker with key for valuables. There was a big plasma/lcd tv (with the sales stickers still attached) on the wall with table and chair below, a large jacuzzi/spa for 2 nestled in the back left corner. On the right was the massage bed. There was also a seperate shower and toilet back and left of the entrance door which is hidden from prying eyes (yes I had thought about this could be the place for Full Service) which had the usual frosting on the lower portion but clear at top. To the right under the locker was a small closet filled with towels and shorts. There was also a phone to call the front counter and hotel rooms? With pre programmed buttons. Almost reminded me of some VIP rooms in Thailand MP's.

The usher had washed the bath and started filling it, turned on sauna and steam, brought me a small fruit plate with watermelon, pineapple and another fruit.

I sat down and started on the fruit while watching tv. Around 5mins later a beautiful girl named Thanh (sp? Pronounced taan) knocks on the door and lets herself in. Wow she was pretty. Quite tall too around 1.6m, I would say atleast a 7 pushing 8 on looks. Nice long legs, cute ass and small handfull's for tits. Under 30yrs for sure. We spoke a few words of english and we had a laugh. The usual "whats your name, where you from" etc.

She sat on my lap and starts feeding me fruit and water. She's watching TV with me and doing the usual things to make you feel good.

She's a bit hesitant about letting me get a feel of her tits, ass or pussy so my thoughts of possible FS is gone, Still there is the posibility of a BJ.

I go into the steamroom but its not really hot enough, It would need around a good 20mins to get right upto temp. After 10mins's or so I hop out and I take a bath, Thanh washes me all over and rinses me off. She towells me dry and give's me the cotton shorts. These are actually big and can fit ok.

Onto the massage

She gives a fairly decent massage, pays attention to the arms and legs, uses her knees to slide on your back, nice firm massage, then came the walking / sliding / moonwalk on the back, I'm not a big fan of this but put up with it, she was ok with this but I've had a lot better, she was much better with her hands.

The only downside were the pauses, while she changed channel on the tv. I told her after she was surfing too much to turn it off and she did. The massage got better after that.

Anyway onto the happyending part. She wanted to give me a HJ but I asked for BJ and she said no. So no happy ending for me. She gave me some more hugs, rubs, put her head on my chest, lick/play with my nipples but I wanted a BJ or nothing. So after another minute or so I went and had a shower, she helped wash the oil off me and dried me off, brought my clothes out of the security locker, helped me put my watch on, then gave me the tip paper. Not once did she mention a tip even when she was rubbing my oldfella though if I did accept her HJ she might have mentioned $. I had noticed when I first entered the room there was a old tip paper there. It had 100k so thats what I tipped her, She held up 2 fingers asking 200k. I said no, you look TV too much, while pointing at her and tv. She understood. As I left the room I saw another 3 massage girls. All around 7-8's and quite young. Under 25yr's If I were to guess. Not sure if they are any good at massage's but I'll have to come back later and see if there is anything else offered appart from the HJ.

To get there from Phan Van Tri. PVT

Turn Right onto Nguyen Oanh from Phan Van Tri at the traffic light intersection. There will be planes coming in to land from right to left just above your head, PetrolLimex on the left, right side will have green grass/vacant lot fenced off. Continue down Nguyen Oanh (NO), past Nguyen Van Luong St, veer right just after it and continue down, keep going past Le Duc Tho, The next proper width "street" is the one you want. Nguyen Van Dung. The massage sign will be on the right up in the air around 3meters up. If you hit the bridge then you have gone past.

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Tattat
08-24-09, 18:21
I am going to stay in Park Royal few days later. It shall be my third visit to HCM City.

Previous experiences during my stay in District 1 hotels are that:

1) the first time. I spent around USD50 included round-trip motor-bike plus massage & HJ by a girl who was quite thin & with dark skin.

2) the second time. My vendor friend brought me to a hotel where offered clean massage without HJ. Price was around 500, 000VND for 3 gentlemen, each 1-hour.

Mik Hcmc
08-27-09, 12:12
I am going to stay in Park Royal few days later. It shall be my third visit to HCM City.

Previous experiences during my stay in District 1 hotels are that:

1) the first time. I spent around USD50 included round-trip motor-bike plus massage & HJ by a girl who was quite thin & with dark skin.

2) the second time. My vendor friend brought me to a hotel where offered clean massage without HJ. Price was around 500, 000VND for 3 gentlemen, each 1-hour.Try to get out of the D1/tourist trap area. The massage girls are great at ripping you off for a shit massage.

Get to the surrounding areas (10min mototaxi ride) and you will get a better selection and service for half the price.

Casey2005
08-28-09, 10:29
I went searching for the cafes near Dam Sen Park that have been talked about before on this board. I noticed some cafes across from the park. They all had plants in front and were quite dark inside which made it impossible to see anything from the outside. I noticed three of these cafes between 60 and 90 Hoa Binh Street p5 q11. Make sure you're in district 11 because part of Hoa Binh Street is also in Tan Phu district. I entered the cafe that is in the middle (I think it was number 78). I ordered a coffee. They brought my drink. A girl sat down next to me and immediately began massaging Mr. Happy. She suggested that we move to a corner at the back of the cafe. After moving, she sat on top of me and gave me a hj. I was free to put my hands where I wanted to. The bill for everything (massage and coffee) was 200k (less than 12 USD).

MutantChicken
08-29-09, 02:19
. After moving, she sat on top of me and gave me a hj. I was free to put my hands where I wanted to. The bill for everything (massage and coffee) was 200k (less than 12 USD).Mate do you not read the forums? . If you had you would have also read that something like that shouldn't cost more than 100k, in fact it should cost 20k for coffee and 50k for the om!

This is what I mean about people who follow the reports but cannot bargain or negotiate there way out of a paper bag! I personally won't be adding any further places in a public manner because of idiots like this. If you don't have the capacity ie language skills then just pay the price that ws quoted on the forum, don't ask the girl. Juts pay and pretend you know whats going on. I don't want a defense of "I'm happy with paying 200k. So thats what I'll do"

If you are happy with paying that price, then find your own locations don't follow what others have discovered and then shit in their neighbourhood.

MutantChicken
08-29-09, 02:30
Casey,

In hindsight after my "god damn" moment, i realsie that calling you an idiot is a bit extreme and is uncalled for. For that i apoligise, however for all those on this forum, who cannot speak vietnamese or cannot negotiate well, just pay the price that is quoted on the forum and act like u know what the price is, dont ask what the price is as they will jack up the price and will will be treated as stupid, dont think thy respect you anymore because you pay more.

Again i apoligise for my bad temper.

Ho Chi Minge
08-29-09, 11:51
Festival, Cao Thang Street.
Girls - 9/10
Massage - 7/10
Extras - good HJ
Cost - 100vnd mass, 200 tip
Never had bad service at this place, fun good looking girls who aim to please.

Son Tra, Vo Thi Sau Street, near Hai Ba Trung
Girls - 5/10
Massage - 4/10
Extras - Good HJ, Average BJ
Cost - 70-100 mass, 200 HJ - 300 BJ
A bit of a shabby place, used to be able to pay 200 for BJ for but some other foreigner started tipping 500!! got tired of hard negotiations so have stopped going.

Vien Dong, Pham Ngu Lao
Girls - 8/10
Massage - 7/10
Extras - Good HJ
Cost - 100 mass, 200 HJ
Nice place, cute girls. Some english spoken.

(Forgot the name)Beauty Salon, 1st floor, ACE building, Xo Viet Nghi Street, Binh Thanh District.
No extras offered here but what a great massage - 4 hands oil massage at 250,000 an hour (may have changed lately). tipping optional.

Monica, Ky Dong Street, D3
Girls - 8/10
Massage - 7/10
Extras - Good HJ
Cost - 120 mass, 200 HJ
Nice place, cute girls.

Have been to lots of the smaller massage places (on CMT8, 3/2, Su Van Hanh, Le Hong Phong) which are not attached to hotels - generally they are a bit dirtier, cheaper, have less attractive girls with a worse massage and HJ.

Lakeoffire1
09-05-09, 07:53
Turn Right onto Nguyen Oanh from Phan Van Tri at the traffic light intersection. There will be planes coming in to land from right to left just above your head, PetrolLimex on the left, right side will have green grass/vacant lot fenced off. Continue down Nguyen Oanh (NO), past Nguyen Van Luong St, veer right just after it and continue down, keep going past Le Duc Tho, The next proper width "street" is the one you want. Nguyen Van Dung. The massage sign will be on the right up in the air around 3meters up. If you hit the bridge then you have gone past.I've been to that place a while ago and I confirm it's a retty nice massage with everything new inside. The massage from the number 5 Hoanh (maybe not the right spelling) was great, she always touch the little men but I was not in the mood and this girl was not cute, I'm difficult I know but I wanted a good massage and I got it so I was fully satisfied.

I recommend this place as if it's pretty far from the center, move your ass and you'll be satisfied.

I know there is a place similar to this one near the city center with VIP (including private sauna and steam plus a bath). The name of this place is a women name but I can't remember it, if someone have the clue, please share it as I would like to come back there but forgot the way.

Thanks guys

Rob Doobing
09-07-09, 11:10
I gave the place a try, for me it is conveniently located near my way back from work. It is indeed a nice clean massage place, nothing to complain about. Just like many other such places around here, just nicer and cleaner.

The service, by Nr 7 was pretty standard, a good complete massage without any fantasy, it was already finished when proposal came to add a HJ. Followed a very tasteless procedure. Nr7 is really cute, good looking, what a pity that she is not service motivated and does not try to please her customer.

Damage was 250k as per price list for the house and 150k for the provider. She was not happy, but not sufficiently to ask for more.compromise between good massage and tasteless HJ.

I cannot understand why in this country they do not try to get the best of what a restrictive legal environment allows them? Ah could we have here a couple of Bangkok's Annie's, Tulip's etc.

I will eventually come back, to check if better service is available, since the place is clean and conveniently located.

Mik Hcmc
09-08-09, 05:56
I dropped by this large MP one time a few weeks ago. I had seen it on my rides along KVC. I pulled up next door to the big undercover parking building, Got ushered next door. Paid for VIP room upon arrival. Well the VIP room. What a joke. Just a room thats slightly bigger than 4m X 2.5m Stuffed with a corner bath and next to that a single seat steamroom. The girl who come to wash and massage me did such a shit job that I ended up washing myself. There goes my hopes of a FS massage. 5 minute massage and a BJ to finnish. All up around 30min's spent in the room. 100k tip. Never going back to find out if other girls are better.

Mik Hcmc
09-08-09, 06:11
Been here a couple times. Medium size massage establishment. Changeroom, showers, dry sauna and steamroom on ground floor.

Upstairs the cubicals for massage.

It does get very crowded in the evenings. Sometimes theres a wait for steamroom, sauna and a shower. The punters there are quite friendly and you can have a chat while you wait or having a steam.

The girl sit upstairs on 1st floor 2 at a time. You can see who is massaging you.
First time i had a fantastic massage. Very strong and thorough massage. Only HJ to finnish, no BJ's.

Second time I had a not so good massage but a nice long HJ with plenty of teasing during my massage.

The girls are shy about you touching them.

The changeroom guys do push hard for tips almost to the point of trying to be intimitating with one guy blocking the exit. I just grabbed his shoulder and pushed him aside and told him no tip, If you want a tip then you should pay more attention when I asked for another towel instead of doing the silly smile and walking away.

Pay upon arrival is 70k, tip 100k.

I still prefer the friendly staff at Son Tra Hotel.

I've been told of another MP that offers BJ's as standard, No questions asked, just go straight for it. If this pans out then I'll write out a report.

In Country
09-16-09, 01:37
Hey Everyone,

Thanks for all the wonderful information. It's made for some much needed R&R while on vacation. Maybe someone with more insight can provide some clarity on the tipping policies.

I recently visited Vien Dong Hotel (on Phan Ngu Lao). This was my first trip there and the girl that provided service was an absolute stunner, a solid 9. That encounter ended well so I decided to go back. The second encounter, I requested the same number girl but she was unavailable. The masseuse that did drop in was also quite the looker.

Things started out usual but when it came time for the happiness, I originally thought I would go along with it, but I needed more recharging than I thought. Oh well, she had strong hands and while the massage was not great, it wasn't bad. With that in mind, during the massage, we talked and I said I wasn't interested in anything more than just the massage. She kept asking whether I was "sure? " at which point I simply said, "ya. Just the body massage"

Now the dilemma comes-it comes time to tip out. She has me mark her "card" and then for the tip I ask if she wants it now (which I then mark as zero) or pay at the desk (enter the amount I want to add on the slip).

She says it doesn't matter. That said, I then proceed to give her 100k as a tip. Her sweet and mild demeanor turned hostile almost immediately. She was extremely insistent that she was deserving of a 200k-300k tip and that was what the going rate was. Being as there wasn't any HJ action, she never touched my buddy*, I said, "no, 100k is good enough".

She was very cold at that point and mechanically told me how to find the exit.

Should I have tipped her more? I don't know the ettiquette but I figured it would probably be better to go under (and have her angry) than potentially damage the "bar" by giving her money for services not rendered?

Greywolf69
09-16-09, 06:25
Can anyone give me a list of good MPs in HCMC and rate the quality of the girls for each?

Also what is the pricing for these?

Johndao
09-16-09, 08:49
Hey Everyone,

Thanks for all the wonderful information. It's made for some much needed R&R while on vacation. Maybe someone with more insight can provide some clarity on the tipping policies.

I recently visited Vien Dong Hotel (on Phan Ngu Lao). This was my first trip there and the girl that provided service was an absolute stunner, a solid 9. That encounter ended well so I decided to go back. The second encounter, I requested the same number girl but she was unavailable. The masseuse that did drop in was also quite the looker.

Things started out usual but when it came time for the happiness, I originally thought I would go along with it, but I needed more recharging than I thought. Oh well, she had strong hands and while the massage was not great, it wasn't bad. With that in mind, during the massage, we talked and I said I wasn't interested in anything more than just the massage. She kept asking whether I was "sure? " at which point I simply said, "ya. Just the body massage"

Now the dilemma comes-it comes time to tip out. She has me mark her "card" and then for the tip I ask if she wants it now (which I then mark as zero) or pay at the desk (enter the amount I want to add on the slip).

She says it doesn't matter. That said, I then proceed to give her 100k as a tip. Her sweet and mild demeanor turned hostile almost immediately. She was extremely insistent that she was deserving of a 200k-300k tip and that was what the going rate was. Being as there wasn't any HJ action, she never touched my buddy*, I said, "no, 100k is good enough".

She was very cold at that point and mechanically told me how to find the exit.

Should I have tipped her more? I don't know the ettiquette but I figured it would probably be better to go under (and have her angry) than potentially damage the "bar" by giving her money for services not rendered?No, you should not have tipped her more. 100k is more than enough. 70k would be enough too. It's just an act, well-practiced on tourists. You are in the prime tourist area, easiest people to fool and rip-off. It's her way of bargaining, playing on your guilt or insecurity. It works for them time and time again, so they do it regularly. If you had given her 200k it would have been the same act. 300k maybe even the same, depending. The rule is give what you want and ignore anything she says, everything she says. Don't make eye contact, put your hand upright and twist it back and forth as you walk away without a word. Vietnam sucks guys. This is not Thailand, not the PI.
JD

Mik Hcmc
09-16-09, 15:57
Vietnam sucks guys. This is not Thailand, not the PI.
JDExactly, Don't try to even think you can get something similar to what you get in TLD, or Cambo. Closest you will get in a MP is lipstick on your dipstick...

As for tips, Give what you think she deserves. I give good tip if the massage is great. I tell the girls that the tip is for the massage, not for the BJ or HJ at the end. 100k for a HJ is a good tip. At my regular place I do get many girls sneak into my cubical when I'm getting a massage to hug, rub,tug,kiss,blow/suck me along with the moans and groans and laughs (as they walk to and from their customers)

I avoid the Tourist trap D1 like the plague. I've been to enough MP's in that area to workout its just shit.

In Country
09-17-09, 02:24
Exactly, Don't try to even think you can get something similar to what you get in TLD, or Cambo. Closest you will get in a MP is lipstick on your dipstick...

As for tips, Give what you think she deserves. I give good tip if the massage is great. I tell the girls that the tip is for the massage, not for the BJ or HJ at the end. 100k for a HJ is a good tip. At my regular place I do get many girls sneak into my cubical when I'm getting a massage to hug, rub,tug,kiss,blow/suck me along with the moans and groans and laughs (as they walk to and from their customers)

I avoid the Tourist trap D1 like the plague. I've been to enough MP's in that area to workout its just shit.Haha. Thanks for the heads up guys. In hindsight, I was actually feeling a little annoyed with myself for having even tipped her 100k for no extra play (not to mention the massage was blah). I'm definitely glad I didn't give in and give her the 200-300k.

Hey Mik HCMC- would you mind sharing the address of your local MP? If you'd rather not, thats cool. I can't have PM's as I'm not paying for membershipmso if you posted, it'd be public.completely up to you man.

Mik Hcmc
09-18-09, 10:05
Hey Mik HCMC- would you mind sharing the address of your local MP? If go to Son Tra hotel and get upto the 8th floor there is a MP there. That was/is my local but its a bit far away now, before I was in Binh Thanh but now I've moved out to Go Vap. The manager and the girl can speak some english. Just don't over tip hahaha.

Dawg415
09-20-09, 17:48
I've really been trying to look for an MP or some place for full service that is not at bars or from the street. I have heard people here have found them but maybe they are very low key. Just hope I could find a simple place I can go in and out without the hassles.

In Country
09-22-09, 03:57
If go to Son Tra hotel and get upto the 8th floor there is a MP there. That was/is my local but its a bit far away now, before I was in Binh Thanh but now I've moved out to Go Vap. The manager and the girl can speak some english. Just don't over tip hahaha.Had a great time.. and now I understand what you meant about the girls coming and going.. lols.. they're pretty friendly.

Thanks again!

Mik Hcmc
09-22-09, 13:04
Had a great time.. and now I understand what you meant about the girls coming and going.. lols.. they're pretty friendly.

Thanks again!Yeah, some of the girls there aren't model material, then again I dont look at them when I'm face down getting my back massaged. If I want a strong massage I request certain #girls, If I want a double shot then I get a different girls. I like to go have a shower, steam bath, sometimes a sauna, shower off and then get a massage, followed by either a shower or another steam/sauna shower and go.

I'm still looking for a FS MP. Have yet to find one, though have come close out in Thu Duc way. I figured the further away from the city the better my chances. I'll keep looking and try every MP I come across.

In Country
09-23-09, 04:15
Yeah, some of the girls there aren't model material, then again I don't look at them when I'm face down getting my back massaged. If I want a strong massage I request certain #girls, If I want a double shot then I get a different girls. I like to go have a shower, steam bath, sometimes a sauna, shower off and then get a massage, followed by either a shower or another steam/sauna shower and go.

I'm still looking for a FS MP. Have yet to find one, though have come close out in Thu Duc way. I figured the further away from the city the better my chances. I'll keep looking and try every MP I come across.I would agree that the ones I saw werent' model material but then again, I'm not looking to marry them either. Enthusiasm counts for a lot in my book.

I got the phone numbers of 2 of the girls and they both were willing to head out to a hotel after work but my negotiation skills suck. The one girl wanted 600k for an hour. I told her "maybe" but left it at that, seemed kinda pricey considering the goods*.

I've found a CIM/BBBJ place for about 100k. I don't have the address but I'll find it out when I'm back in that area. It was just a nondescript building with I say 6-8 girls working. Fairly dirty though. You go in. Pick a girl then head up stairs to a room. Each room had bed sheets that split the room into 4-6 cubicle sized "work areas". You lay on the mat and she goes at it. It was pretty nasty as you can c/hear the other doods that are like 3 feet away from you getting worked on. It was definitely interesting as it was my first time at a place like this and damn the girl was hard working, but the setting was just too distracting for my tastes. But 100k. Talk about a bargain!

Mik Hcmc
09-23-09, 08:58
It was pretty nasty as you can c/hear the other doods that are like 3 feet away from you getting worked on.Welcome to SE Asia hahah

Sounds like your having some fun. Keep the reports flowing.

Johndao
09-23-09, 09:06
I'm still looking for a FS MP. Have yet to find one, though have come close out in Thu Duc way. I figured the further away from the city the better my chances. I'll keep looking and try every MP I come across.
Mik, I think you are very unlikely to find a FS MP in the city. I never have. Much more likely in the outlying area where rules are 'relaxed' somewhat. I'd guess near a big road heading south or north out of the city. Thu Duc? Maybe. Or go south past Phu My Hung into Nha Be or Binh Chanh County. I never have. I'm sure it's there, though I would not go riding around looking without knowing where I'm going. PM me if you find one. Thanks.
JD

Mik Hcmc
09-23-09, 10:43
PM me if you find one. Thanks.

JDNot a problem, I'm trying to stop into every MP that I come across looking for the thai/cambo/phil's style of massage. Got plenty of offers to meet after work but it kind of defeats the purpose of a walk-in FS.

Casey2005
09-28-09, 09:10
I remembered that there was a FS hot toc in district 5 a few years ago. I searched the thread and the address is 112 Tran Tuan Khai near the Tokyo Hotel. I have no idea if it's still open.

In Country
10-05-09, 10:04
Ok, so this doesn't really belong in the "massage parlor" section but I think it's a better fit here than in the other sub-forums.

I ended up picking up a SW that was standing on some bridge. She was the cutest little thing and after some basic negotitation, we headed off to a local hotel. Rates were 300 per hour and 100 for the hotel. Had a blast as she was just the type of frame I like. So naturally, I get her number and have since called her a few times to meet up.

The very first session was FS for 1 whole hour. Multiple pops, BBBJ. Etc. The subsequent times had gotten worse and worse. Things like looking at her cellphone (I had to repeatedly tell her to turn it off or put it away), asking if I was done, saying she was tired. I didn't mind at first as I was "preoccupied" doing my thing. Today, however turned kinda ugly. It was a constant struggle to get her to give it up. It was as if everything was suddenly off limits. After some serious bitching, I managed to get the action going. All this time she's complaining about one thing or another or looking at her phone. I'm like, "fine. I'll just pound you even harder then". Just then, the hotel calls up at which point the girl answers and relays to me that my hour is up. I pulled out my cellphone and saw that it had been at most 30 minutes from when I called her from my pad to when the lobby called to tell me the time was up.

So including the travel time, the wait time, and the bitching to get her to drop her panties, total time had been at most 30 minutes. I quickly did the math in my head and was like, I got about 10 minutes of play before the hotel had called up. I said, "DU MA" and started calling her a cheat/liar. She was still in bed naked and I proceeded to put on my shorts and shirt. I was done as the constant back and forth had just ruined it for my buddy and I was no longer in the mood. I got dressed and as I was doing so, she got up and start yammering for me to pay her. I can speak Vietnamese so the conversation played out as follows.

Her: "PAY ME!"
Me: "no..You did a crappy job and then tried to cheat me"
Her: "PAY ME OR IMMA CALL "<some dood's name>"
Me: "GOOD..call him NOW or the police or whoever you want. I'm not paying you"
Her: "ok, come back and finish"
Me: "No, I'm done with you. You wasted my time, Im not paying you for anything"

At this point she blocks the door by standing in front of it. Now I'm a regular sized guy and while I'd NEVER hit a girl, I'm not against shaking the sh! T out of one. So I grab her and basically make her sit on the bed. I then proceed to walk out the door. She immediately gets back up and tries to get in front of the door again but that didn't really stop me as I already had it partially open and making her move wasn't much of an issue. So as I walk down the stairs she's basically yelling to call some dood. The lobby folks hear most of this and as I come down to the ground floor, they're all just sitting there watching me as I walk by them. I turn, pause and stare them down HARD and then keep going out the door to where my xe om dood was waiting. None of them got up. It pissed me off as I wanted to yell at them for trying to cheat me as well. The folks in the lobby knew it wasn't 1 hour but yet they called up anyways.

So basically I paid my xe om 30k for there and back. The hotel 100k for 1 hour, (which turned out to be about 20 minutes) and some SW who tried to get 300k out of me by basically doing nothing except whine, complain, and moan. I got about 10 minutes of actual play before it all turned sour. All in all, I'm out 130k (plus a big tip to my xe om driver for getting me the hell out of there).

What do you think? Should I have paid, not paid? Any and all comments are welcomed.

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Johndao
10-06-09, 02:16
In Country, she's not into you, she doesn't like you, she doesn't want to do it with you anymore obviously so take a hint (not too subtle) and find another girl. Whatever you do with her or to her, she now feels it's not worth it for the 300k. Maybe the first time was the best because she thought she'd get something extra by being a good performer. Maybe she was new at the game at the time. Now she's been out for a while, she's small, her pussy is getting sore. If she's cute as you say, then others have probably paid her more and maybe they popped quicker. As you said she went downhill from the first meet, why call her back again and again? Her service declined from the first time and you still paid her so she just keep going down. Why not find another one, there are so many out there.
Anyway, she is trafficked, she's not an FL, she's pimped, she's controlled. Her handlers may have told her we don't want you off the street for a full hour getting worn out by some guy for only 300k, we need you working all day and night. So hurry up and get back out here fast or else we're gonna kick the shit outta you. So have some empathy for the little indentured servant sex slave and leave her alone and don't worry about the little money you mentioned in your post. Really, counting your 30k xe om as part of this is a bit much.

You said you wanted a straight and honest opinion and that's mine.
JD

Naughty
10-06-09, 12:44
Wow.

In Country, ya gots cojones man.

I'd say you were lucky you didn't end up in the hospital wondering where the freight train that hit you went.

Johndao
10-08-09, 02:02
Wow.

In Country, ya gots cojones man.

I'd say you were lucky you didn't end up in the hospital wondering where the freight train that hit you went.I disagree Naughty, what he did does not take balls at all. It's not dangerous. She has nobody who cares about her. If she has to give her handlers 100k per customer, then she has to give them 100k per customer regardless of whether or not the customer pays her. The pimps just want their cut and if the guys stiffs the girl, it's her problem, she's got to pay anyway because they don't know if she's lying or not and they surely are not going after some foreigner on the word of some SW. As he wrote, she is small and thin so no danger to him. For her, it's just the price of being an abused sex slave forced to work the streets for her minders, handlers, pimps, whatever you call them.
JD

Chocha Monger
10-08-09, 03:14
In Country:

You said her service was getting progressively worst so why did you keep going back and fucking her? In my opinion you have to bear part of the responsibility for what happened. You should have paid her for the 10 minutes at least. The fact that she wanted you to finish showed that she was scared of something other than you. That something as Johndao pointed out is most likely the pimp who fucked her up that day for coming up short.

You should have quit while you were ahead and stopped using her services at the first indication that she was getting less than enthusiastic about you rooting her hole. It sounds like you were really wearing out her hole for 300K and she still had to go service other customers. You should have paid her and explained that you were not going to use her services any more and why. She may have learned something. Screaming, yelling and shaking her did not solve anything. She receives worst treatment than that from her pimps. I hope you learned something from this too. Avoid repeating with streetwalkers. Remember her little hole has to handle miles of cock daily. Instead of struggling to get her to give it up and pounding her harder you should have paid her for her time and canceled the session before starting. Remember that the choices you have are not available to her. Two wrongs don't make it right buddy.

In Country
10-08-09, 04:24
The honesty is appreciated (whether I agree with it or not).

I really wasn't looking for redemption, or a lecture really so much as I was curious to see how others would handle this- more of a "what should I do" versus a "you fuked up" kind of mentality. Seriously, we're all aholes who go around paying girls for FS. Do you think you're being Robin Hood by banging them nicely and giving them money? It's a service industry. If you pay for service "X", then you should receive service "X", not service "Y"

This whole matter stems from agreeing to a service and then not delivering. In this case, I had already paid for the hotel and as usual, she had tried to ask for the whole amount upfront. This is why I never do that anymore. I mean, isn't that the standard MO. You pay up front, they bail on you. Instead I went the route of "You deliver, you get paid" I don't even flinch about the price if I get what I want. Cmon, it's stupid to think that 300k is a lot of money. That's not even $20 US dollars. The actual money is not the point.

There was NO grey area when she said, "The hotel said your hour is up, It's time to go". She wanted the session ended. If both parties agree to something and money is exchanged, how would you feel if the agreement were changed before it was finished? The term "cheated" comes to mind. If she were worried about her pimp beating her, she should have not compromised the deal by trying to end it early.

I'm typically very upfront that if there's anything she doesn't like, she tells me now and/or tells me during the session. The little spinner had seen me a few times so she knew what to expect. If my style had not been to her liking she could easily have not gone as I contact her cellphone directly and not her pimps. She can say, "No" and nobody would be the wiser. Another option is for her to ask for more money. What is NOT acceptable is for her to take my money for a service and then not deliver. I don't care if she's crippled, handicapped, one eyed, one armed, one toothed. What the hell does that have to do with striking a deal and then not living up to it? The tone in these "respsonses" seems to indicate I should have known she was going to cheat me or refuse more than 10 minutes of sex when we had agreed to the whole hour?

I find it somewhat hypocritical that there's even a semblance of "righteouness" or fair play. We're not here to make the world a better place. We're here to pound girls for cheap as it's acceptable and easy by Vietnamese standard. To me, it's sounds ridiculously incredulous that there's "concern" about what these people go through. From the treatment by pimps, handlers, customers- if you're going to be honest, be honest with yourself first. Take a look in the mirror and see if you're not the same "monger" that's going around propagating the "industry". We all partake and we all contribute and then at the end of the day, we all go back to our happy little homes with our US dollars and not worry about what happens to them.

Dawg415
10-08-09, 10:21
Okay, I'm being silly, trying to come up with a new acronym, B&G is blow and go. Anyway

After a review I read about a B&G place in D1 (bordering D3), which is near where I live, I decided to go out and have a shot at it. It's off of HBT, right on Tran Quang Khai and left onto N V Nguyen (I think it is Nguyen Van Nguyen). Place is called Hoang (sp? ) My, address is 212. Someone wrote there are a few places here but I only found 1. It's sort of like a deserted alley, not much there. Anyways went in, the selection were a bunch of 6s, maybe some passing for 7s IMHO, but this is fine for me. Picked a girl named Lu, she worked very hard but was not able to make me finish. I think in my old age if I don't get enough sleep I can finish unless it is FS. I'm sort of particular how I like my BJs.

Setup is similar to others where it is one room 3 tables and curtains. Some reported this is odd, but I really like it, hearing the performance of a couple of woman at the same time hearing my own girl. Quite a turn on for me.

The one thing I found funny here was the use of black lights. I discovered something with the VN dong. I took out a bill and saw that in the blacklight you can see the amount clearly. It was a 50 I took out and it read 50, 000. Quite cool as I can't seem to see it in regular light.

Anyways, next time I will walk more to find the other places. I really do appreciate a girl really going at it and feeling sad if you don't finish. They really work hard for that money.

Paid 200K and I was out. I'll go back to finish with Lu next time. She was a treat. BTW, she even climbed on the table and stradled me trying to HJ, it almost worked and it was a nice site to see.

Johndao
10-08-09, 17:45
The honesty is appreciated (whether I agree with it or not).

I really wasn't looking for redemption, or a lecture really so much as I was curious to see how others would handle this- more of a "what should I do" versus a "you fucked up" kind of mentality.
In Country,
Sorry for the moralizing and lecture, I know it's not what you asked for. And you make good points, we are all mongers taking advantage of poor, often helpless young women.
My Vietnamese is just passable but I think there may be some language confusion happening in your case. The Vietnamese word 'gio' can mean 'hour' but it also means 'time'. So if someone at the hotel, and the girl said something like 'het gio roi' you may take it to mean that your hour, your one hour is up. But it can also mean 'time is up'. That's what it really means, time is up, not that one hour has passed. The hotel workers have no way to know what you agreed with the girl as far as time goes. If she told them to call the room after 20 mins or 30 mins, that's not their fault.
Finally, to answer your question as to what I would have done, and have done several times in the past. I just write it off to a bad experience and don't use that provider again. I'd pay the girl 100k, which would cover her fee to her minders, and I'd pay the hotel in full, 100k because I want to use their hotel again and don't want a reputation as a troublemaker. Sure, it's a waste of 200k but that's less than $12. One of the reasons I don't go with $60-$70 girls and pay their pimps $20 more + the double hotel fee of $20-25 is that it's easy to be disappointed. At the $9, $12 or $15 I usually pay and 70k or 80k more for hotel, I'm rarely disappointed and more often than not, pleasantly surprised. If she's a dud, I've lost little. I certainly don't count things like petrol or xe om cost or the phone call to the girl or the condom I used or the dab of KY I wasted as part of my cost.
I know the hot, angry, indignant feeling you had, I've had it myself, "I'm cheated, it's not fair, it's principle." But I take a deep breath and forget it quickly.
JD

Chocha Monger
10-08-09, 18:56
the honesty is appreciated (whether i agree with it or not).

i really wasn't looking for redemption, or a lecture really so much as i was curious to see how others would handle this- more of a "what should i do" versus a "you fuked up" kind of mentality. seriously, we're all aholes who go around paying girls for fs. do you think you're being robin hood by banging them nicely and giving them money? it's a service industry. if you pay for service "x", then you should receive service "x", not service "y"

this whole matter stems from agreeing to a service and then not delivering. in this case, i had already paid for the hotel and as usual, she had tried to ask for the whole amount upfront. this is why i never do that anymore. i mean, isn't that the standard mo. you pay up front, they bail on you. instead i went the route of "you deliver, you get paid" i don't even flinch about the price if i get what i want. cmon, it's stupid to think that 300k is a lot of money. that's not even $20 us dollars. the actual money is not the point.

there was no grey area when she said, "the hotel said your hour is up, it's time to go". she wanted the session ended. if both parties agree to something and money is exchanged, how would you feel if the agreement were changed before it was finished? the term "cheated" comes to mind. if she were worried about her pimp beating her, she should have not compromised the deal by trying to end it early.

i'm typically very upfront that if there's anything she doesn't like, she tells me now and/or tells me during the session. the little spinner had seen me a few times so she knew what to expect. if my style had not been to her liking she could easily have not gone as i contact her cellphone directly and not her pimps. she can say, "no" and nobody would be the wiser. another option is for her to ask for more money. what is not acceptable is for her to take my money for a service and then not deliver. i don't care if she's crippled, handicapped, one eyed, one armed, one toothed. what the hell does that have to do with striking a deal and then not living up to it? the tone in these "respsonses" seems to indicate i should have known she was going to cheat me or refuse more than 10 minutes of sex when we had agreed to the whole hour?

i find it somewhat hypocritical that there's even a semblance of "righteouness" or fair play. we're not here to make the world a better place. we're here to pound girls for cheap as it's acceptable and easy by vietnamese standard. to me, it's sounds ridiculously incredulous that there's "concern" about what these people go through. from the treatment by pimps, handlers, customers- if you're going to be honest, be honest with yourself first. take a look in the mirror and see if you're not the same "monger" that's going around propagating the "industry". we all partake and we all contribute and then at the end of the day, we all go back to our happy little homes with our us dollars and not worry about what happens to them.
in country:

you asked for our opinions and you got it but you seem a bit pissy now. what i suggested in my response is how i would have handled the situation. it might look like i am taking sides here but, believe it or not, what i said to you is for your own protection. you could have easily been stabbed by a pimp waiting downstairs or the authorities could have gotten involved. would that have been worth it for you based on matter of principle? yes. you should have had an idea that you were going to be ripped off. you noticed a trend of declining service and you ignored it. part of mongering is learning how to avoid bad situations. the guys who are clueless and focus solely on pounding cheap pussy will eventually walk into traps. in this game you win some and you lose some. sometimes you have to take it on the chin and accept your losses just like in any other business.

you complain about moralizing but isn’t your argument that you were cheated based on your feelings about right and wrong? another thing is that assumption that we are all the same because we pay for pussy is erroneous. some of us actually do care what happens to them and we try to make our dealings with them as mutually beneficial as possible. others just want to pound their holes and wear them out as much as they can for as cheap as possible. there are some that fuck and take off without paying just for fun. one guy on the thailand thread boasted about doing this and speeding away on his moped.

it’s not a “service industry.” it’s a criminal enterprise so you shouldn’t be surprised that there will be attempts to rip you off from time to time. if it was legal for you fuck girls cheaply according to “vietnamese standards” you wouldn’t have to sneak around and hide from law enforcement to do it. back in the us you’d be prosecuted for picking up that prostitute. so leave your righteous indignation at home. if you don’t genuinely want to hear other views on your actions don’t ask for them. the rest of us will respectfully ignore them.

good luck,
cm

Hyatt
10-08-09, 20:34
@In Country, and others

Everything has been said.

But, about not paying the girl, dude, let me tell yu: give her the fucking 18 bucks she wants and BE SAFE.

Same kind of stories happened to a friend of mine few months ago. Big guy, tall and kinda ruff. He refused to pay a girl who gave him extremely bad service.

What happened to him is everything but cool to hear.

As said right below, this is a criminal entreprise. Don't mess around.

Saigon River is full of braves, you know. And you're not safe because you're westerner.

Be safe man. This is not home. This is fucking Vietnam.

In Country
10-09-09, 04:17
Ahh, there's absolutely no need to apologize. Seriously. The comments are good and while they're not completely without barb, I'm a big kid and it's fine.

I've got a whopping 7 posts now? I definitely know when I'm noob at something, and if you look at my earlier posts, you'll see I'm a total beginner at this stuff. I'm not being pissy so much as I'm standing my ground on how I, as a westerner, would have handled it. Granted, thats why I came in "here" and asked for input- even I am not that oblivious to the reality that "we're not in Kansas anymore Toto".

I don't know how it works and as you guys have pointed out, things escalate much differently out here than they would in the states. Some things I can guess at but some of the things you guys have said have honestly never occurred to me. So in those regards, I appreciate the feedback and commentary.

To address the "Mutually Beneficial" portion of CM's comments. I find it peculiar that you somehow think that all of this is copacetic if you somehow pay them what they want. It's one thing to not realize, but it's another to try and rationalize it to the point where you think you are somehow not culpable of the ugliness that is prostitution. As you yourself pointed out, its a criminal enterprise. That's fine, I accept that interpretation. But in accepting that, wouldn't you think that there's absolutely no fair play in it for the girls. The girls get used, abused and when they're of no good, they're discarded like bad produce. Unfortunately, we as westerners propagate this. You're seriously deluding yourself if you think that by playing "nice" you don't partake in this ugly cycle. This isn't' the States where girls have more freedom to get into and out of the industry. In SE Asia, its often indentured servitude where there is little to no choice. Every time we pay for it, we continue the cycle. You somehow think that by paying them what they ask, there's some kind of absolvement for you? That it is "OK" since they got what they wanted and that as long as they're all smiles that you've done "right"?

I posted up my experience on this board to get the feedback on how to avoid this kind of stuff and what to look out for. The indignation comes when you question the fairness in which we play this game. Somehow you think by playing it "your" way, you're somehow less guilty or morally justified? Give me a break. To me, thats even more appalling as you somehow think it's "ok" that you do what you do. I may be a noob at this mongering thing, but I do respect the experience of others and what they have to say (even yours). I just don't have much patient when it comes to discussing the morality of what we do. It galls me to think that people rationalize the superiority of their mongering.

I know I'm an ahole, I wholly accept that. In this game of "mongering" I'm learning that you win and you lose. It's a lot like life, no? But to me, that does NOT equate to me wanting to ever lose. Mistakes happen but I try to learn from them and I try to avoid them for the future.

Wendella
10-10-09, 04:42
Reading about In Country's experience... I can understand his wanting to leave, and while it might not have been wise on his part to do that, in terms of self-preservation, I think it was fair and what should be expected by this girl after what she pulled. (Shaking the girl and throwing her around is over the line though)

Remember, she got a call from downstairs that the time was up. So this means the whole thing was pre-meditated, planned. She needed to have that set up with the guy at the hotel front desk. Anyone knows 10 minutes is not one hour, so when they did that, of course they would expect trouble. Also keep in mind that this thing was set up with the boys downstairs when the girl was expecting to get the money up front. So one reason they let the guy go so easily was because they figured she got her money already, no problem.

Anyway, I've seen behavior a bit like that in the past from girls at that location or ones like it. Just the most outrageous things possible in terms of refusing to give the services offered, and this from first-time ones. And paying up front does often (but not always) encourage that kind of thing. (I've also gotten amazing performances from ones I paid up front -- never say never).

In those cases, the ones that go very bad, Im pretty sure it's nothign to do with me personally -- maybe it's that the girl hates her job and this is her way of showing it, maybe she doesnt want to go with foreigners, maybe she's on some kind of drug that have her behaving like a nut (this was pretty certain for some--prob the most common factor).

Anyway, for what IC describes, one like that who turned me on a lot in the looks dept. (which I guess is the case since IC keeps going back to her despite the bad experiences), the first time with her I'd give a nice tip so she had a good attitude next time. If she took that tip, which we both know is above and beyond what's called for, and had a bad attitude the 2nd time, ok then that surely is no go.

IC -- one point you made that we're all aholes -- that may be, but there's degrees, and limits for most of us. I dont say that meaning to lecture more, just that its a rationale that doesn't really hold water. Take it a step further, if we're all aholes and what we think is BS, then why come here and ask what we think.

Anyway, that said, if it was me, I might also have left without paying. And I'm usually pretty generous, polite, respectful. There's times when it's just so obvious that they're only taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), you feel like a fool doing your part when they're refusing to hold up their end of the bargain. Also, for the critics here, there's ways a girl can signal her non-interest, like not smiling, turning her head, nodding no, etc. I'd be curious to see what the girl did at the moment IC picked her up. Smile? Or one of these non-interest signals?

The MO of the girl might suggest non-interest -- or it might suggest she just has quickly developed a very bad attitude. Or drug habit. Or whatever.

Mik Hcmc
10-10-09, 17:30
I had passed this place a few times and decided to pop in. I'm glad I did.
Ticket is 50k inclusive of steambath, sauna, showers.

The location is along Quang Trung. Opposite the Mercedes Benz and Isuzu Truck/Van yards. The few times that I've been here I have not been disappointed. This now my "local" MP when I don't want a BJ or 2.

First its not a happy ending MP. The massuests are dressed in white short sleeve button up shirts and matching trousers. You can see their obvious pantie line through their tight trousers.

Upstairs it smells like a hospital. Strong disinfectant smell. A pleasant suprise compared to other MP's. The beds and towel's are clean, Each booth has a fan.

You wear shorts and get a very strong sometimes painful deep tissue massage.
You can tell the massuest to go as hard or soft as you need. Imagine Thai Massage crossed with Shiatsu. Of course this depends on the skill of the massuest.

If you have any sore muscles that need a good massage then don't hesitate to go to this MP.

OzzieSuds
10-10-09, 21:04
I make two observations about this whole exchange with In Country and others.

The gal in question was a street walker hanging around a known site near a bridge. Obviously such a SW has pimps and minders where there are criminal minds at work.

She was enthusiastic at first and at subsequent encounters this enthusiasm declined. With suitable awareness we ought to be able to discern this reduction in enthusiasm, question her and walk away if need be. Big head over little head and we all need to learn from In Country's experience.

Secondly with all that is available in Saigon why would you bother with a working gal from off the street? There is so much more to be had without the criminal elements and the risk of disease.

Hoper
10-11-09, 03:51
Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price to. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports?

MutantChicken
10-11-09, 08:59
Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price to. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports? Mate it would be nice if you quote the street you found it on? . I have access to a few viet language forums and in addition to the english based forums, it would seem the going rate is a 100k tip for the girls for BJ places. So if you have found a place where 50k is 'happily' accepted then id like to know. When I mean happily accepted I don't mean that they don't make any complaints. I personally am 'soft hearted' where even if the girls have commented that they will do it for free or never talk about money, I always give the going rate.

Dawg415
10-11-09, 17:23
Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price to. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports?Hoper please share the location of this place. Always looking for a new place to go near my home in D3.

Johndao
10-11-09, 18:13
The location is along Quang Trung. Opposite the Mercedes Benz and Isuzu Truck/Van yards. The few times that I've been here I have not been disappointed. This now my "local" MP when I don't want a BJ or 2.

Hi Mik,
Thanks for the info. Can you post the general location of this Quang Trung St. such as the District it's in? Diadiem has many listings for this street in various districts.
Thanks,
JD

Johndao
10-11-09, 18:32
Recently found out what a Hot Toc place (a blow and go site) was. Frequented one in District 1 and was the real deal. Not too shabby of a price too. 80k for the entry. Another 50k for the girl. I would like to know of more places like this around district 1. Does anyone have any suggestions or reports?Congratulations on your find Hoper. 50k is a great and low tip for BBBJ and CIM, happy to hear to you got away with it and let us know how you are welcomed back next time.
'Hot Toc' does not actually mean 'Blow & Go', it means Haircut. 'Blow and Go' in VNese would be 'Thoi va di'. But that doesn't rhyme.
To answer your question, yes, many of us have had suggestions and posted reports, some including addresses, directions and maps. Have Fun!
JD

Mik Hcmc
10-11-09, 19:11
Hi Mik,

Thanks for the info. Can you post the general location of this Quang Trung St. such as the District it's in? Diadiem has many listings for this street in various districts.

Thanks,

JDIts in GV. Not sure of the exact address but its between Le Van Tho & way before Tan Son. Its on the RHS as you are heading towards 1A hyway. You can't do U turns as there are the small red/white barrier's. (Though you can still ride down the wrong side)

There is a funky looking hotel around 100m before it, Looks totally out of place, Use that as a landmark and slow down. Theres a rectangle sign Red background iirc on the pavement, I've often missed it and had to turn back.

MutantChicken
10-12-09, 07:26
I had passed this place a few times and decided to pop in. I'm glad I did.

Ticket is 50k inclusive of steambath, sauna, showers.

The location is along Quang Trung. Opposite the Mercedes Benz and Isuzu Truck/Van yards. The few times that I've been here I have not been disappointed. This now my "local" MP when I don't want a BJ or 2.

First its not a happy ending MP. The massuests are dressed in white short sleeve button up shirts and matching trousers. You can see their obvious pantie line through their tight trousers.

Upstairs it smells like a hospital. Strong disinfectant smell. A pleasant suprise compared to other MP's. The beds and towel's are clean, Each booth has a fan.

You wear shorts and get a very strong sometimes painful deep tissue massage.
You can tell the massuest to go as hard or soft as you need. Imagine Thai Massage crossed with Shiatsu. Of course this depends on the skill of the massuest.

If you have any sore muscles that need a good massage then don't hesitate to go to this MP.Guys,

This at first glance sound very good and I'm not saying its not a good find BUT just as a comparison. I go to a local place near q5 and I have noticed a few even towards q1 on dbp, but my local is a ticket of 70k for 1.5 hrs and I tipp the girl 100k. So if this place is 50k for an hr and its up towards GV then its a bit out of the way. My place is is on NCT towards cholon.

Mik Hcmc
10-12-09, 07:42
Guys,

This at first glance sound very good and I'm not saying its not a good find BUT just as a comparison. I go to a local place near q5 and I have noticed a few even towards q1 on dbp, but my local is a ticket of 70k for 1.5 hrs and I tipp the girl 100k. So if this place is 50k for an hr and its up towards GV then its a bit out of the way. My place is is on NCT towards cholon.The guys who live near the city center this will be a bit of a hike, You have to go past the airport etc. Its convenient for me as I live about 10minute ride away. The main drag outside my house has about 8 hot toc's and numerous cafe's. I've slowed down to take a look as I ride past but have yet to see any nice young girls, only seen mutton dressed as lamb.

Acetech74
10-14-09, 07:04
I'm not new to this even this is my virgin post.

I thought you were lucky enough to get out in one piece. First of all, it's illegal for you to do sex-cercise as this in VN or many other regions / parts of the world. Some acted tough and left lives behind for really nothing. They could cut your life short just to teach others, who unfairly treated their girls or disrespected their people, a lesson.

You can post all you want about some bad providers, etc. But keep in mind: you are taking advantages of cheap labor and cheap sex. It's a wild game and sometimes you may need luck to hit decent targets. Don't whine or cry out loud when you receive bad experience from a provider. If not happy, just donate your fair amount and get your butt outa there. In your case, you oughta pay them. You are a gentleman and specially from a western world. If you left bad remarks, stereotype would be eventually generated.

I personally attempted many times 'hit or miss'. Honestly, I missed pretty often. However, I must pay the prices at much higher. In Vegas / San Fran / Honolulu, I would pay $60-$70 for MS & $150-$200 for each girl at AMP. SWs still asked for $120-$160 FS. If I used escort, I'd pay generally $250-$400 for FS with the girl that I liked.

I thought with just $12, I would just make them impressed even I probably wouldn't return. We are mongers. They are prostitudes but they deserve some respect too. It's just a dangerous and risky job. Your real GF sometimes still don't satisfy you. Imagine these girls welcome several guys per day. Sometimes, they girls have bad days too.

PC Out.

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Mik Hcmc
10-21-09, 18:41
Tonight I went for a long ride, around 70kms, all around Saigon from Go Vap, down to Binh Chan and into D3.
I stopped by Son Tra hotel close to 10pm.Looking at the new lockers with keys hanging out of their locks,There was only 1 other customer in the complex when I arrived.
The steambath room was retiled with new light fittings, steam hose/tube and guard. I liked the tiled pictures of the artistic naked girls.
After the steambath I took a shower...In a renovated shower.
Downstairs and onto the massage.

I took potluck and got massuest named Kim #10. What a shit massage that turned out to be. Even shittier BJ. First she was telling me to pay her 400k. I told her to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off, Git di and pointed at the sign in 3 languages saying the massuest cannot ask for tip. She asked how much and I stuck 1 finger up for 100k. She still was trying for 400k. She said HJ is 200k. I give her a dose of Duma's and other profanities, I started to sit up and wrapped the towel around me.
She quickly sensed she was loosing a sale and tried for 300k. I am quite happy to pay 300k to my "usual girls" but not to this new one. I told her 200k and she wanted 300k, then 250k and realizing I was a regular took the 200k The bj was the shallowest bobbing I've ever had. I think I can go deeper on my cock and I cant even reach it!
Anyway I tried to slip my hand down the back of her skirt/shorts and she stopped me, pulled my hand out and placed it on her breast. This was ontop of her bra and shirt. So I go back to the skirt and she stops me again. Finally I play with her tit. But I'm not allowed to touch the nipple...I'm only allowed to squeeze it. Fuck me, what a total waste of time. I could have stopped off at a bakery and squeezed some fresh loaves of bread for free.

Before I left I told the guy and the girl behind the desk that her massage was terrible. Worst one I've ever had here. I told them I never want her to massage me again.

MutantChicken
10-23-09, 05:08
tonight i went for a long ride, around 70kms, all around saigon from go vap, down to binh chan and into d3.

i stopped by son tra hotel close to 10pm.looking at the new lockers with keys hanging out of their locks,there was only 1 other customer in the complex when i arrived.

the steambath room was retiled with new light fittings, steam hose/tube and guard. i liked the tiled pictures of the artistic naked girls.

after the steambath i took a shower...in a renovated shower.

downstairs and onto the massage.

i took potluck and got massuest named kim #10. what a shit massage that turned out to be. even shittier bj. first she was telling me to pay her 400k. i told her to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off, git di and pointed at the sign in 3 languages saying the massuest cannot ask for tip. she asked how much and i stuck 1 finger up for 100k. she still was trying for 400k. she said hj is 200k. i give her a dose of duma's and other profanities, i started to sit up and wrapped the towel around me.

she quickly sensed she was loosing a sale and tried for 300k. i am quite happy to pay 300k to my "usual girls" but not to this new one. i told her 200k and she wanted 300k, then 250k and realizing i was a regular took the 200k the bj was the shallowest bobbing i've ever had. i think i can go deeper on my cock and i cant even reach it!

anyway i tried to slip my hand down the back of her skirt/shorts and she stopped me, pulled my hand out and placed it on her breast. this was ontop of her bra and shirt. so i go back to the skirt and she stops me again. finally i play with her tit. but i'm not allowed to touch the nipple...i'm only allowed to squeeze it. fuck me, what a total waste of time. i could have stopped off at a bakery and squeezed some fresh loaves of bread for free.

before i left i told the guy and the girl behind the desk that her massage was terrible. worst one i've ever had here. i told them i never want her to massage me again.i'm sure sure if anyone has noticed but ther eis 2 massage places on dbp in q3. and on the surface they offer pretty good deals 60k for an hr and you get a free visit afterwards. however the massage is non therapeutic and the facilities are bad and the girls very average looking. so if you want a cheap experience then go there. i was feeling particuly generous and tipped 100k even for a non s3xual bad massage should have tipped 50k but well she did spend 1hr. usually i tip 100k for good massgae or a hj.

Dragonfly22
10-24-09, 06:15
Took Dawgs advise and visited the MP off Tran Quang Kai. Excellent value. Paid 80k for ticket and 100k for the girl Went several times and had several girls. All different looks 5-7's Lu, Lan, Thi, and Kieu. Lan was perfect on a personal note. All gave excellent effort. One wouldn't allow pussy fingering Kieu but all others no problem. I became a daily regular much like Norm on "Cheers" and always had a great time chatting up the girls. No other foreigners that I saw. Clean, efficient, and great value. Also had some in hotel room service. 1 great and 1 so so. No shortage of P4P anywhere that I saw. Prices vary and most ask for more but 180K for a great BBCIMBJ was awesome and will return asap.

MutantChicken
10-24-09, 17:17
Took Dawgs advise and visited the MP off Tran Quang Kai. Excellent value. Paid 80k for ticket and 100k for the girl Went several times and had several girls. All different looks 5-7's Lu, Lan, Thi, and Kieu. Lan was perfect on a personal note. All gave excellent effort. One wouldn't allow pussy fingering Kieu but all others no problem. I became a daily regular much like Norm on "Cheers" and always had a great time chatting up the girls. No other foreigners that I saw. Clean, efficient, and great value. Also had some in hotel room service. 1 great and 1 so so. No shortage of P4P anywhere that I saw. Prices vary and most ask for more but 180K for a great BBCIMBJ was awesome and will return asap.I normally frequent dinh bo linh hot tocs, and whilst I have had excellent experiences I decided to change girls as I felt I was getting too attached to one particular girl and that can only lead to bad places. I was think I have tried two different girls at the same establishment as such I expected a similar experience it a BBBJ, nothing too kinky. I also know from multiple web sources that is the norm on this street. So when my girl told me that wasnt on offere, I was a bit annoyed. I told her that that a BJ was the normal experience and that I wasnt a first timer, she insisted that wasnt the case in this shop. I got the feeling she was just being lazy and as a viet kieu and a foreigner I would just shut up and pay up as usual. That normally would be the case but as I thought about it more I thought that this would set a bad precedent as why would the girls give BJ when they can give merely HJ and get the same money, plus her attitude towards me, was bad thinking I wouldn't make an issue not being a local. So decided to make it an issue I told her that if she wasnt going to blow me, I'll leave, I went downstairs thinking id just pay the ticket and give her 50k tip, rather than the 100k. They refused that so I said fuck it, I'll just give 70k and leave, the girl then started to rip at my shirt kicking my bike broke my helmet and it wasnt until I said that if she was going to continue id be force to hit her and not until did I raise my hand did she stop. So my advice is don't expect a mcdonalds experience and even if 100 timesfore you got a certain standard, don't assume it will continue. For me I'll be confirming the service I'll be getting and I'll be paying the relevant price for the service delivered. I speak vietnamese, I'm viet kieu and have been going to this shop for over 5 mths. And I still get that shit

Ps I didn't touch her, but until the threat of my own violence arose did she stop her own violence towards me.

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Crazyazn
10-25-09, 03:06
I speak vietnamese, I'm viet kieu and have been going to this shop for over 5 mths. And I still get that shitI know how you feel, i'm viet kieu too. And i've been getting BS experience lately! I went to two bars on HBT and NONE of the girls wanted to go out!! It's like there discriminating there own people!!

Mik Hcmc
10-25-09, 03:08
the girl then started to rip at my shirt kicking my bike broke my helmet and it wasnt until I said that if she was going to continue id be force to hit her and not until did I raise my hand did she stop.
Ps I didn't touch her, but until the threat of my own violence arose did she stop her own violence towards me.



No doubt if you were a local and got this kind of treatment the girl would be wearing a couple bruises and out of pocket for the damages. Slapping girls around is a daily thing around here, I've seen many sporting black eyes, bruised cheeks, girls wearing sunglasses while mopping the floor in Metro and trying to cover it up with makeup.

Dragonfly22
10-25-09, 04:49
I forgot to mention in my post that upon one occasion I walked in and this pretty lil thing is waiting and as I passed Lu I said hi Lu an without hessitation she jumps up and starts following us upstairs to the MP room. As we go in she asks "you want two?" and I was quite taken aback and said "uh no". What was I thinking...I should have doubled my fun...next time!

Mik Hcmc
10-25-09, 12:03
I forgot to mention in my post that upon one occasion I walked in and this pretty lil thing is waiting and as I passed Lu I said hi Lu an without hessitation she jumps up and starts following us upstairs to the MP room. As we go in she asks "you want two?" and I was quite taken aback and said "uh no". What was I thinking...I should have doubled my fun...next time!

Doubt if it will be double the fun, more like double the money for half the work.
Still cant beat Thailand or Phil's attitudes to p2p

Johndao
10-26-09, 18:19
I normally frequent dinh bo linh hot tocs, and whilst I have had excellent experiences I decided to change girls as I felt I was getting too attached to one particular girl and that can only lead to bad places. I was think I have tried two different girls at the same establishment as such I expected a similar experience it a BBBJ, nothing too kinky. I also know from multiple web sources that is the norm on this street. So when my girl told me that wasnt on offere, I was a bit annoyed. I told her that that a BJ was the normal experience and that I wasnt a first timer, she insisted that wasnt the case in this shop. I got the feeling she was just being lazy and as a viet kieu and a foreigner I would just shut up and pay up as usual. That normally would be the case but as I thought about it more I thought that this would set a bad precedent as why would the girls give BJ when they can give merely HJ and get the same money, plus her attitude towards me, was bad thinking I wouldn't make an issue not being a local. So decided to make it an issue I told her that if she wasnt going to blow me, I'll leave, I went downstairs thinking id just pay the ticket and give her 50k tip, rather than the 100k. They refused that so I said fuck it, I'll just give 70k and leave, the girl then started to rip at my shirt kicking my bike broke my helmet and it wasnt until I said that if she was going to continue id be force to hit her and not until did I raise my hand did she stop. So my advice is don't expect a mcdonalds experience and even if 100 timesfore you got a certain standard, don't assume it will continue. For me I'll be confirming the service I'll be getting and I'll be paying the relevant price for the service delivered. I speak vietnamese, I'm viet kieu and have been going to this shop for over 5 mths. And I still get that shit
Yes, mutant's story is very typical. I too have gone to BJ places multiple times with multiple girls and had always a great time and no problem. But then there will be one girl, and she'll fuck it up. I had one new girl in a shop I'd been to a hundred times before tell me she does not do BJ but insisted I fuck her for 500k. I told her no, only BJ's here and I will give her a normal tip. Walked out on her but downstairs they want to hear none of it and demand the usual 80k even after I told the boss what happened. I angrily gave her the 80k, nothing for the girl of course. I know that's the price if I want to come back. Really infuriating at the time and of course the girl was gone then next time I was there. Happened something like that other places too, I'm a regular and newbie girl can't or won't perform but they still want money but don't care about money for girl and girl is always gone next time.
JD

Pppppppppp
11-08-09, 14:43
Last week end, near a place I went for dinner, there were 2 weird places next to each others, so I just tried. Thue guy told me that the first place was a bar, and the second one a massage parlor. I went inside, looked very cheap like a BBS. 80K for a session. I went upstairs, it was a kind of large room, with 4 or 5 basic massage bed (not real bed, just for one person to lie on), separated by simple curtains.

I could hear people just 2 meters from me, a sound of suction, like someone sucking very gluttonously, and also the sound of girl moaning. Later, I discovered that the girl was performing BJ while the moaning girl was the guy enjoying! Anyway, at that time, when I arrived, I couldn't understand what was happenning.

She asked me to get topless, and lie down. She was maybe 30 yo, and looked a bit tired. Then, she opened my shorts and boxer, and took out my p*** to start to clean it with a wet towel. I just let her do, to see what would happen. Then, she had a short but horrible cough, like she was having a throat disease. And then, she started to lick my balls. Before she went further, I stopped her, told her I just wanted normal massage. So she just made a massage, it was crap, like she had never done it, I think I would do much better. She had no strenght, and was obviously bored. Many times, she asked me if I was sure I didn't want her to BBBJ. No thanks. After that, I paid the 80K, gave her 20K tip.

So cheap for BBBJ. I guess she must be BJ maybe 10 poor local guys everyday, so it couldn't be more unsafe. I think with a condom I couldn't get excited. Maybe I'll try the bar next time. Anyway, just be careful.

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MutantChicken
11-09-09, 03:35
Last week end, near a place I went for dinner, there were 2 weird places next to each others, so I just tried. Thue guy told me that the first place was a bar, and the second one a massage parlor. I went inside, looked very cheap like a BBS. 80K for a session. I went upstairs, it was a kind of large room, with 4 or 5 basic massage bed (not real bed, just for one person to lie on), separated by simple curtains.

I could hear people just 2 meters from me, a sound of suction, like someone sucking very gluttonously, and also the sound of girl moaning. Later, I discovered that the girl was performing BJ while the moaning girl was the guy enjoying! Anyway, at that time, when I arrived, I couldn't understand what was happenning.

She asked me to get topless, and lie down. She was maybe 30 yo, and looked a bit tired. Then, she opened my shorts and boxer, and took out my p*** to start to clean it with a wet towel. I just let her do, to see what would happen. Then, she had a short but horrible cough, like she was having a throat disease. And then, she started to lick my balls. Before she went further, I stopped her, told her I just wanted normal massage. So she just made a massage, it was crap, like she had never done it, I think I would do much better. She had no strenght, and was obviously bored. Many times, she asked me if I was sure I didn't want her to BBBJ. No thanks. After that, I paid the 80K, gave her 20K tip.

So cheap for BBBJ. I guess she must be BJ maybe 10 poor local guys everyday, so it couldn't be more unsafe. I think with a condom I couldn't get excited. Maybe I'll try the bar next time. Anyway, just be careful.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Ok thats sounds good but very common...just out of curiousity whats street was this on?

Wendella
11-09-09, 15:58
Hey what's the deal with the Lam Van Ben cafe oms, are they still operating? A guy went out there on my tip looking for them and said there aren't any on that street. I drove past them not long ago and they were all there. Has anyone been around that way recently?

BionicMan
11-09-09, 16:47
Heading soon to HCMC for a short stay of a couple of nights at a New World Hotel in Le Lai Street, District 1,.
Heard it is not much GF and noting this.
being first timer and not familair with the city and hotel surrounding is there any (reliable and providing a good degree of services) MP's nearby?
Seems to me that some rip off's are in town, so just want to avoid these or overpay.
Anyone experienced the massage services in the hotel?

MutantChicken
11-09-09, 19:02
Hey what's the deal with the Lam Van Ben cafe oms, are they still operating? A guy went out there on my tip looking for them and said there aren't any on that street. I drove past them not long ago and they were all there. Has anyone been around that way recently?Plenty of hot toc, a few standard cofee with young girls who chat with you, but some caphe om on ntt and lvl and thanks. That guy is just lazy.

Tiger Curry
11-17-09, 07:43
Hi

Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.

Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?

Cheers for any info provided

TC

Crazyazn
11-17-09, 08:28
Hi

Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.

Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?

Cheers for any info provided

TC

We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek!

Member #2234
11-17-09, 16:33
Hey bro, just arrived? How long u staying for? I can recommend a few massage joint, blow job parlours, etc. if you let me know which area you are staying in. I can even show you around if you want, no fee, but I am jobless just now so any coffees is on you ok lol!!!

Enable your private messaging m8, so we can chat as it is not fair to use this thread.




Hi

Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.

Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?

Cheers for any info provided

TC

Tiger Curry
11-18-09, 02:41
We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek!Thanks Twat !

Wendella
11-18-09, 04:52
Hi

Just arrived in town and looking for the low down on massage joints here.

Any recommendations, costs, quality etc ?

Cheers for any info provided

TC

Sorry not too familiar with the massage places. There's a lot of hot tocs out on Do Binh Lo (Binh Thanh district) that some members here seem to think are some of the best around. If you search on "Do Binh Lo" or else "DBL" you'll find info on those. Also some on Dien Bien Phu same district but supposedly not as good (girls less cute/young). I tried one of these once a few years ago but it's not my thing. Never did try the ones at DBL but they do seem a step up from DBP, from what I glimpsed while driving past them. Don't be too put off by Crazyazn's reply -- he might have been having a rough day, I'm sure he'll have ideas later... but his suggestion to read back in the forum is a good tip regardless.

Mik Hcmc
11-18-09, 07:05
Thanks Twat !

People like you are typical examples of the dickheads we DON'T want to help.
Atleast make a effort to scroll down or if you can manage click back a page or 2. Failing that and you are too lazy to do that there is a search button on the top.

Had you used a bit of common sense and tried a search then posted a question I'm sure you will be busy reading the numerous replies.

I was going to offer you the names and address's of places where you get BBJCIM for the same price as a halfassed HJ in the city but after your reply honestly I'm not going to bother.

I just hope the other members here give you information not leading to the ladyboy and scamming motogirl's locations.

MutantChicken
11-18-09, 07:53
People like you are typical examples of the dickheads we DON'T want to help.

Atleast make a effort to scroll down or if you can manage click back a page or 2. Failing that and you are too lazy to do that there is a search button on the top.

Had you used a bit of common sense and tried a search then posted a question I'm sure you will be busy reading the numerous replies.

I was going to offer you the names and address's of places where you get BBJCIM for the same price as a halfassed HJ in the city but after your reply honestly I'm not going to bother.

I just hope the other members here give you information not leading to the ladyboy and scamming motogirl's locations. Mik,

Did you have a bad day hahah. But I totally agree with you.

Johndao
11-18-09, 19:26
Has anyone seen any busty MP girls in their mongering? I know, I know they are not known for this but if you find the rare gem with the big tits kindly let us know. Many thanks!Damn, I did see some MP girls with really big tits recently. They looked and felt great and were really cheap, with pictures too!
JD

Carl Raze
11-24-09, 11:26
Anyone visited a massage parlor by the name of "Ð? Nh? T"? I believe that translates to "First". Anyway, heard some great things about the place and know it is located on Hoang Van Thu in the Tan Binh district. Think they just do HJ but they give a good massage and have attractive girls. If anyone has seen it and has a rough idea of where the place is located along that road, please PM me.

I heard the current rate is 70k for a ticket, 100k tip. If anyone decides to visit, remember DO NOT tip more than 100k. 100k is a good tip and most likely if the girl looks unhappy w/ the tip it is because you're a foreigner and they assume you're a sucker. The reason foreigners get hassled is because they usually give in when the girl begins to ***** and moan. So don't give in.

Carl Raze
11-25-09, 04:58
The Vietnamese tones didn't show in my previous post. Here's the name w/o the tones:

De Nhat

Mash Potatoes
11-25-09, 09:28
The Vietnamese tones didn't show in my previous post. Here's the name w/o the tones:

De NhatThis is 'the first' hotel establishment. It's a 4 star Hotel which is pretty nice if you want to be close to the airport way. The massage parlor of the same name is directly across the road (same owner), and is pretty much the same as all the other 'touchy' massage places in town.

The girls come and go, the rooms all have glass panels half way; so really how much fun can you really have.

Ticket is around 70k or 80k and then tip is up to you. 100k is probably a bit low if the girl gives you some extras. But that's up to each person's discretion.

Dawg415
11-25-09, 16:06
I'm still looking for an MP offering FS. Any finds?

Getting tired of the regular haunts and looking for an easy in and out service place.

BTW, went to my regular place on Nguyen Phi Khanh today and found what appears to be a new Hot Toc place on the street. Address i think is 75. I came out of my place and a guy outside tried to get me into this new place. It's been a while since I can go back to back within an hour so I passed. I'm curious to see the new digs though.

Joe Nailer
11-25-09, 17:15
I'm still looking for an MP offering FS. Any finds?

Getting tired of the regular haunts and looking for an easy in and out service place.

BTW, went to my regular place on Nguyen Phi Khanh today and found what appears to be a new Hot Toc place on the street. Address i think is 75. I came out of my place and a guy outside tried to get me into this new place. It's been a while since I can go back to back within an hour so I passed. I'm curious to see the new digs though.
Not sure this is still valid but some time ago I went to this MP (dont know the name) on Tran Nhat Duat, not far from your Hot Toc place.
This is the regular MP (HJ standard) but if you negotiate, then she would come to your place for some actions. I think they wont do FS at the premises. I dont remember her exact name but I think it started with T. She is/was a bit chubby for me but provided enthusiastic BBBJs and a multiple number of FSs for the fees.

Carl Raze
11-26-09, 09:47
This is 'the first' hotel establishment. It's a 4 star Hotel which is pretty nice if you want to be close to the airport way. The massage parlor of the same name is directly across the road (same owner), and is pretty much the same as all the other 'touchy' massage places in town.

The girls come and go, the rooms all have glass panels half way; so really how much fun can you really have.

Ticket is around 70k or 80k and then tip is up to you. 100k is probably a bit low if the girl gives you some extras. But that's up to each person's discretion.Thanks for the response. I think I'll check the place out sometime over the next few days.

Felix Sing
12-09-09, 02:35
Hi,

I'm new here. I'm wondering if anyone can direct me to a nice MP w/HJ nearby Beautiful Saigon hotel (62 Bui Vien St., Dist.1)? TIA

El Mujerista
12-11-09, 15:47
Felix, if your hotel has a "health club" you can probably find what you're looking for (and more) right there. Most of the decent hotels in District 1 seem to be so equipped.

Ho Chi Minge
12-11-09, 17:38
Hi,

I'm new here. I'm wondering if anyone can direct me to a nice MP w/HJ nearby Beautiful Saigon hotel (62 Bui Vien St., Dist.1)? TIAWalk 100m to Pham Ngu Lao and try Liberty or Vien Dong Hotel (?) - don't pay anything over 200,000 tip to the girl (not including the 100 or so to the desk). Should be lower but you're in touristville.

Felix Sing
12-11-09, 18:16
Felix, if your hotel has a "health club" you can probably find what you're looking for (and more) right there. Most of the decent hotels in District 1 seem to be so equipped.Thanks for your reply. No, the hotel does not have one.

Felix Sing
12-11-09, 18:19
Walk 100m to Pham Ngu Lao and try Liberty or Vien Dong Hotel (?) - don't pay anything over 200,000 tip to the girl (not including the 100 or so to the desk). Should be lower but you're in touristville.Thanks for your reply. I managed to find the hotels you mentioned on google. they are really nearby. maybe i should change my hotel booking to either of these and only tip 200k :)

Warcomet
12-15-09, 02:20
We are not to here to coddle you and feed you information. The information you seek is ALL over this thread and if you do your due diligence by researching!! You will find all the answers you seek!What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.

Mik Hcmc
12-15-09, 07:16
What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.

Nice first post Warcomet, Welcome to ISG VN.
I'm sure everyone's going to go out of their way to help you now. No doubt you've read all the posts in the VN thread and you will be sharing your discovered places soon...

Tiger43
12-15-09, 07:32
What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******."we" all on this forum do not really have anything in common. "We" are all just looking for good sex at a reasonable price. I believe everyone on this forum has the right to ask questions. If a member does not want to reply, why not just ignore the "stupid" question?

Johndao
12-15-09, 08:04
Warcomet, Nearly all the members here want to help others and to get info as well. But standard forum etiquette, not only ISG forum but all forums whether travel, photography, software help, etc. expect that a new user or new member will not just come on a board and start asking whatever questions come to mind or very general questions or even specific questions, without first having gone through existing posts and contributions to see if the info is already there, which it usually is in a forum of this type.

People often take a lot of time and care with their posts and info, and to have it ignored when someone new comes on the board and asks for the same info that is already there, is considered impolite and will get them a rude response because their question in itself was considered rude.

Examples of new member general questions that will get flamed:

1) Hey guys, I'm coming to HCMC next week. Does anyone know where I can find any girls?
2) Xin Chao Dudes, I'll be in Saigon next month. Do you now where I can get massage/HJ in D1?
3) What's up, I'm in HCMC right now, real lonely, are there any bars to meet girls in the center of town? Any idea about prices?

JD

Crazyazn
12-15-09, 08:42
What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.

Obviously you are not that person! For your first post you choose to initiate a confrontation instead of providing any information about your experience in HCMC. You are a classic example of lurker, who provides no prevalent information, leeches information and instigates fellow members! So before you go attacking anyone else, take your own advice! Before you look like hypocrite & an a$$hole!

MutantChicken
12-15-09, 09:46
What if someone on the forum actually did want to help a new person unfamiliar with the forum? Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help? Makes you look like a total *******.This guy is really bad on a number of levels, firstly he pulls a post a whole month back to argue a point next her talks about helping but instead for his very first post provides a zero vaue post.

I for one thank everyone who has in the past provided helpful information, but due to posters like him and leechers, or leachers who feel that they have a right to spoil the market, will not provide any new infause I feel that on a number of levels all information can be found via 3-4 forumns and going back the few thousand pages on each forum.

Examples of new member general questions that will get flamed:

1) Hey guys, I'm coming to HCMC next week. Does anyone know where I can find any girls?.this one definatey I wouldn't help

2) Xin Chao Dudes, I'll be in Saigon next month. Do you now where I can get massage/HJ in D1?.this one possib; y because he at east bothered to learn a bit of the language

3) What's up, I'm in HCMC right now, real lonely, are there any bars to meet girls in the center of town? Any idea about prices?

This one sound just like a loser and wouldn't be any fun anyway.

Aardappel
12-15-09, 10:07
Obviously you are not that person! For your first post you choose to initiate a confrontation instead of providing any information about your experience in HCMC. You are a classic example of lurker, who provides no prevalent information, leeches information and instigates fellow members! So before you go attacking anyone else, take your own advice! Before you look like hypocrite & an a$$hole!Well, well, well. Some people should indeed understand that info being provided on this forum is valuable information provided by individuals that would like to assist others of details on pleasures available in HCMC.

If "New Bees" are to lazy to scroll back down the pages. To find all the answers on their queries. Well. Then the best option is to visit the local Tourist Center in District 1. SAD!

Warcomet
12-15-09, 13:09
Warcomet, Nearly all the members here want to help others and to get info as well. But standard forum etiquette, not only ISG forum but all forums whether travel, photography, software help, etc. Expect that a new user or new member will not just come on a board and start asking whatever questions come to mind or very general questions or even specific questions, without first having gone through existing posts and contributions to see if the info is already there, which it usually is in a forum of this type.

People often take a lot of time and care with their posts and info, and to have it ignored when someone new comes on the board and asks for the same info that is already there, is considered impolite and will get them a rude response because their question in itself was considered rude.

Examples of new member general questions that will get flamed:

1) Hey guys, I'm coming to HCMC next week. Does anyone know where I can find any girls?

2) Xin Chao Dudes, I'll be in Saigon next month. Do you now where I can get massage/HJ in D1?

3) What's up, I'm in HCMC right now, real lonely, are there any bars to meet girls in the center of town? Any idea about prices?

JDThe second paragraph explains it well. But it still feels like picking on a retard to me to flame people like that. I understand that some can't help it though. Thanks john dao.

Mik Hcmc
12-15-09, 19:10
Don't speak for the rest of us. And why even bother to go out of your way to reply if you can't be bothered to help?

Can you offer us any tips, reports on anything?
What are your recommendations of MP's? FSMP's? Bia Oms? BJ Cafes?
With a opening like that I'm sure your a expert on the subject and cant wait to tell others about your adventures

Perhaps a better opening is something like
Hi, I'm new here, Ive just joined up the forum, i'd like to get some information regarding XXXXXXXX
I did a search for XXXXXXX but have nothing recent. Has anyone got any new upto date information?

or

This is my first post. I went to a XXXXX and got XXXXX I paid $$$$ and had a great time. I recomend anyone to go there an see for yourself.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar my friend

Greywolf69
12-15-09, 21:32
I would like to know which massage parlor(s) has the prettiest girls. Not necessarily the best service or offering all the "extra" stuff. But the prettiest girls. And yes I have read through this forum and found nothing so no need to respond with remarks like "read through the forum. Or don't ask stupid questions. " Very simple question. Prettiest girls. Don't care for service or cost.

Crazyazn
12-15-09, 23:46
Can you offer us any tips, reports on anything?
What are your recommendations of MP's? FSMP's? Bia Oms? BJ Cafes?
With a opening like that I'm sure your a expert on the subject and cant wait to tell others about your adventures

Totally agree with you mik!! The problem arises from individuals who feel that we are obligated to spoon feed them information. Yet themselves have contributed nothing to the forum and ask redundant questions. Yes we can ignore these individuals, but if we don't call them out. When will it stop? Now i may not be seasoned monger such as yourself, MutantChicken, Wendella, and Johndao. And my contribution may seem minuscule in comparison, but everything that i have learned has been acquired through research through these forums. I am willing to help everyone, as long as they willing to help themselves!

Crazyazn
12-15-09, 23:58
I would like to know which massage parlor(s) has the prettiest girls. Not necessarily the best service or offering all the "extra" stuff. But the prettiest girls. And yes I have read through this forum and found nothing so no need to respond with remarks like "read through the forum. Or don't ask stupid questions. " Very simple question. Prettiest girls. Don't care for service or cost.

I feel like Vien Dong Hotel has the pretties girls for my taste.

Whisper1
12-16-09, 06:35
I would like to know which massage parlor(s) has the prettiest girls. Not necessarily the best service or offering all the "extra" stuff. But the prettiest girls. And yes I have read through this forum and found nothing so no need to respond with remarks like "read through the forum. Or don't ask stupid questions. " Very simple question. Prettiest girls. Don't care for service or cost.

You should try Dai Nam. It's on Tran Hung Dao next to Nguyen Kim (Big Electronic store)

Member #2234
12-16-09, 07:08
Now we should understand that everyone has different a definitiion of "beautiful/pretty", but try FESTIVAL on Cao Thang Street, they have the best looking girls in town (at least for the Asian eye anyway)

Mik Hcmc
12-16-09, 08:26
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What appeals to one won't appeal to another. Perhaps drop into a Hot Toc? there are some pretty girls (and not so pretty girls in my opinion) Since your not worried about service etc etc. The massages range from mild to wild.

Where are you located? or willing to travel? If your a tourist then are you willing to get out of D1/D3 area?
This would help make it easier to find a place with "pretty" girls.

Around 4+months ago I went to the "chinese" style/theme massage on the ground floor of SaigonSuperbowl next to the airport. I had a great massage by a very cute/beautiful (imo) girl from mekong delta. Her name was Vuong. Spoke excellent english, She wanted to be a tour guide I found out.

Nice tall around 165cm, slender body, thin arms but very strong, Long hair, just a hint of makeup, nice nails, feet, legs. She would have been a great spinner. Weighed 43kg she told me.
I was hinting at a takeout but she wasn't interested.

Their uniform was a red sexy 1 piece mini dress with the chinese traditional style top. The bottom of the skirt ended around halfway up her slender thighs. When she stood with her legs appart you can catch a slight glimpse of the rest of her legs. However like all massage places they have those cockblocking shorts sewn/built in.

Their massage is the type where you sit in a chair and soak your feet in a foot bath for a few minutes whilst sipping on a beverage of your choice and looking at the tv, then they massage the legs through a towel, then sit next to you and massage your arms, shoulders and back while your sitting upright. Then to the lower back you lie down on the couch. You don't lie down on a bed, rather the chair and the feet poufs.


Great massage and great conversation. Theres about 30+ girls there and I'm sure you can find something to your liking.

There is a standard fee inc tip. I cant remember exactly what the damage was but was around 200k for 1.5hrs inc drink.

OzzieSuds
12-16-09, 21:08
Around 4+months ago I went to the "chinese" style/theme massage on the ground floor of SaigonSuperbowl next to the airport. I had a great massage by a very cute/beautiful (imo) girl from mekong delta. Her name was Vuong. Spoke excellent english, She wanted to be a tour guide I found out.



We heard about a year ago about massage at the Superbowl but I never went there. My recollection is that more was on offer from a mamasan. Are there several places there?

Greywolf69
12-16-09, 23:35
Thanks for all the suggestions! I have tried Vien Dong and personally I think it's hit or miss. I do notice that when it comes time to tip, it is never enough. That's why I never negotiate the tip ahead of time, and I base my tips on how well the girl does and her enthusiam. They always plead for more and when you don't gI've, their mood changes. I will be arriving in saigon in a few days.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What appeals to one won't appeal to another. Perhaps drop into a Hot Toc? there are some pretty girls (and not so pretty girls in my opinion) Since your not worried about service etc etc. The massages range from mild to wild.

Where are you located? or willing to travel? If your a tourist then are you willing to get out of D1/D3 area?
This would help make it easier to find a place with "pretty" girls.

Around 4+months ago I went to the "chinese" style/theme massage on the ground floor of SaigonSuperbowl next to the airport. I had a great massage by a very cute/beautiful (imo) girl from mekong delta. Her name was Vuong. Spoke excellent english, She wanted to be a tour guide I found out.

Nice tall around 165cm, slender body, thin arms but very strong, Long hair, just a hint of makeup, nice nails, feet, legs. She would have been a great spinner. Weighed 43kg she told me.
I was hinting at a takeout but she wasn't interested.

Their uniform was a red sexy 1 piece mini dress with the chinese traditional style top. The bottom of the skirt ended around halfway up her slender thighs. When she stood with her legs appart you can catch a slight glimpse of the rest of her legs. However like all massage places they have those cockblocking shorts sewn/built in.

Their massage is the type where you sit in a chair and soak your feet in a foot bath for a few minutes whilst sipping on a beverage of your choice and looking at the tv, then they massage the legs through a towel, then sit next to you and massage your arms, shoulders and back while your sitting upright. Then to the lower back you lie down on the couch. You don't lie down on a bed, rather the chair and the feet poufs.


Great massage and great conversation. Theres about 30+ girls there and I'm sure you can find something to your liking.

There is a standard fee inc tip. I cant remember exactly what the damage was but was around 200k for 1.5hrs inc drink.

Mik Hcmc
12-17-09, 00:19
We heard about a year ago about massage at the Superbowl but I never went there. My recollection is that more was on offer from a mamasan. Are there several places there?

There is/was a upstairs massage that was closed for renovations. Not sure if its reopened or not. A week or so ago I went riding past and saw a few guys sitting outside the windows on the roof where the massage parlour is located upstairs. It had looked like it was still closed.

The chinese themed one is located on ground floor opposite the Seiko/Orient watch shop, next door to a golf center?

Wendella
12-17-09, 09:06
Now we should understand that everyone has different a definitiion of "beautiful/pretty", but try FESTIVAL on Cao Thang Street, they have the best looking girls in town (at least for the Asian eye anyway)

Which address is that Festival? If I remember correctly there's actually TWO DIFFERENT karaokes each named Festival a few doors apart from each other on Cao Thang.