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Damn man, if this was last week (5-12) you definitely missed a good ladies night at Lush. I was there with my friend and her 2 hot GFs. And there were wall to wall lookers. Including some girls that may have been FLs (I was with my girl so could not check).
I got the same vibe from Vincom, but I could not follow up as I was with my girl (again).
I had an awesome time with her and no regrets. But I'll definitely have to schedule some ME time next time I am in VN.
Stay horny my friend!
Uncle-V.5/12 is correct. They promoted the event as the "final ladies night" before renovations. I checked out the pics and it seemed to be a crazy night. Wish I was there!
Uncle Volodya
05-30-15, 06:45
5/12 is correct. They promoted the event as the "final ladies night" before renovations. I checked out the pics and it seemed to be a crazy night. Wish I was there!Just curious, but are there FLs hang out at Lush? I was with my girl and could no gather intel on this issue.
The quality at Apoc Now was just dreadful IMHO.
Just curious, but are there FLs hang out at Lush? I was with my girl and could no gather intel on this issue.
The quality at Apoc Now was just dreadful IMHO.I've had a few encounters with FLs at Lush. A couple years ago I went a little overboard with bottles. Long story short, I made friends with a bouncer to watch my back, and in exchange allowed him to drink freely from my table. I met a local girl but couldn't quite seal the deal. So I asked the bouncer to bring girls to the table to make her jealous but they were all FLs. Mostly 6's who kept coming back every 15 minutes. Very annoying. Last month, I saw a few FL's by the upstairs ledge. They tend to fly solo. They'll wait til around 1:00 am (when the crowd is drunk) and constantly stare at you.
Agreed. Apoc Now is absolutely horrible. I've heard people say some locals go there but it's 99.9% FLs. Several years ago, it was a great place to start the night. FL's would come through at 11 pm on the dot. By 11:45, I could find at least 3 girls I'd want to bang. I'd use them to warm up my game before hitting the clubs. And if my game was off night after night, I knew I could always go back to Apo as a worst case scenario. Now, you'll be lucky to find a 6 in the crowd.
On my last two trips, I planned to check out Chill Sky Bar but never made it. I've heard a lot of models hang out there. I'm sure plenty of FLs go there too but at least they're better looking than the typical bar scene. Any thoughts?
Agreed. Apoc Now is absolutely horrible. I've heard people say some locals go there but it's 99.9% FLs. Several years ago, it was a great place to start the night. FL's would come through at 11 pm on the dot. By 11:45, I could find at least 3 girls I'd want to bang. I'd use them to warm up my game before hitting the clubs. And if my game was off night after night, I knew I could always go back to Apo as a worst case scenario. Now, you'll be lucky to find a 6 in the crowd.
On my last two trips, I planned to check out Chill Sky Bar but never made it. I've heard a lot of models hang out there. I'm sure plenty of FLs go there too but at least they're better looking than the typical bar scene. Any thoughts?The problem in Apo is the price they ask nowadays, IMO you can always find a real hottie in the crowd, but when they ask 200, 300usd or more, and they still think they are doing you a favor, it makes me crazy! The best deal around in Apo these days would be 100usd for 1 shot. 2 shots for this price would be fair if the girl has good attitude and service, but almost impossible to negotiate with most of them.
About Chill bar, absolutely not interesting, very Hi class and show off place, yes for sure you will see "models" kind of girls but they will be with rich locals already or you will have to show you are rich spending an insane amount of money for bottles etc. I think it doesn't worth it but if that's your thing and you can afford it then you can give it a try. Air 360 is a better option for sky bar with a nicer atmosphere, more reasonable prices and still nice girls around.
Uncle Volodya
06-03-15, 07:03
I've had a few encounters with FLs at Lush. A couple years ago I went a little overboard with bottles. Long story short, I made friends with a bouncer to watch my back, and in exchange allowed him to drink freely from my table. I met a local girl but couldn't quite seal the deal. So I asked the bouncer to bring girls to the table to make her jealous but they were all FLs. Mostly 6's who kept coming back every 15 minutes. Very annoying. Last month, I saw a few FL's by the upstairs ledge. They tend to fly solo. They'll wait til around 1:00 am (when the crowd is drunk) and constantly stare at you.
Agreed. Apoc Now is absolutely horrible. I've heard people say some locals go there but it's 99.9% FLs. Several years ago, it was a great place to start the night. FL's would come through at 11 pm on the dot. By 11:45, I could find at least 3 girls I'd want to bang. I'd use them to warm up my game before hitting the clubs. And if my game was off night after night, I knew I could always go back to Apo as a worst case scenario. Now, you'll be lucky to find a 6 in the crowd.
On my last two trips, I planned to check out Chill Sky Bar but never made it. I've heard a lot of models hang out there. I'm sure plenty of FLs go there too but at least they're better looking than the typical bar scene. Any thoughts?Thanks Carl for your input.
Like I said earlier, I spent most of my trip hanging out with the two Viet girls I met in Singapore and Shanghai. Only had one night alone, which I wasted by going to Apocalypse (I was pretty tired anyway form shagging my babes and really just wanted to take a look at what it was like).
We never made it to Chill Skybar. The one night we wanted to go it was raining pretty hard and It didn't make much sense to check go if there was no view to be enjoyed.
All in all I really like VN. Food, people and the communist / colonial ambiance are amazing. But I didn't' really get a chance to check out the scene as my girls kept me happily busy.
Hey guys,
Wanted to see if anyone here could offer me any help.
I am a Vietnamese american and visit Vietnam once a year to visit some family, but some days I sneak out and try to have some fun.
Some of the most fun I have is going to the Karaoke bars where I I can call girls to come sit with me.
Before I would normally ask the taxi guys if they knew of any hot spots with cute girls and usually at least one or two knew.
However nowadays it seems that no one knows anymore, If anyone knows of any good recommendations for karaoke joints with cute girls, please help a brother out!
Thank you!
I was driving around in the area where so many of the girl bars, the ones we used to call HBT bars back when there was more than one on that street (I think there were 6 or 7 once).
Down at the start of LE Thanh Ton street there was one bar there that was around for a very long time, since probably 2005 or so, called Bin Bin. Recently it had changed its name to something like Moon Night. It was usually one of the best of these kinds of bars, with only 91 HBT being better, at least in terms of your chances of finding hot young girls. Anyway, this place looks like it's closed. Sometimes they get shut down for a while and reopen, so maybe that will happen this time. But the way things have gone the last year or 2, my guess is that it's a goner.
It seems like these bars have lost all their mojo the last few years, with all the police closings. Now the wechat and zalo girls seem to be the #1 way people connect with girls of this type, and that's kind of a pity because that's a purely wham-bam-thankyou-maam type experience, and there's no warm-up time with the girl, which is a huge part of the thrill for some of us. What's more, with the app girls, the pictures you see don't even look much like the girl you meet, so it's just a crap deal for the consumer. And from what I hear, the prices are the same or more than what the girls in the bars were going for.
Bin Bin / Moon Night was the last of these bars where you could go in and have a good chance of connecting with a young hot girl. Maybe those days are over.
I've checked out those other bars. They're mostly small and with mostly ones who really should be retired by now (too old) or else shouldn't be in this line of work (not cute enough). If there's a cute one, it's a surprise. That's no good, you can't go hit all these bars in a night in the unlikely hope you'll run into one hot one eventually in the 3rd or 4th bar you go to.
I haven't been inside these kinds of bars in months, so if anyone has good current info, it'd be good to hear. Maybe there's some bar I don't know about that's blossomed with hot young things recently due to the demise of 91 and Bin Bin.
ChelseaBill
08-02-15, 08:09
First of all, many thanks to Wandella for his contributions to the sport in Saigon! Especially the guidance posted 05 Mar 15 and subsequent post yesterday (01 Aug) for which I received with assurance and sadness. . and you know what they say, 'Everything after Bangkok is a disappointment' - I thought I had just been spoilt and lost the mongering touch!
The bars are indeed a disappointment if one wants a quick and assured takeaway. Saigon is not that place (except for Apocalypse Now). It looks as though the girls in bars such as '5', 'The Office', 'Voodoo' are students (with a few sweeties) and 'rinsers' (London term for rinsing the cash out of your wallet) where one would have to invest the time and energy to establish a 'relationship' before any pink is availed.
Apolypse Now always has a few diamonds in the rough. I frequent every weekend and see the same-same faces, a few new faces and the usual entourage of 'hippo-crock-pig' expats and grungy backpacker things. Even the prettier Vietnamese girls, the diamonds in the rough, who have exploited my male weaker side (ie. Accompanied me in the past and allowed me to continue with my addiction to the game!) seem to come back for more. Even staking claim to me being 'their customer' and friend and getting a little spikey when I turn them down in favour of a new girl. The diamonds are pushing the envelope and ask for $200! A few, the real lookers, when compared to the other markets (Abu Dhabi, London) are certainly worth it. But, you can see the trend. The asking price is being pushed up due to 'supply and demand' as there are only a handful of real winners and far too many 'also rans'. Even some of the 'also rans' are trying it on for $200! Except for the real lookers, the also rans are usually gratefully the $100 offered after a little huffing and puffing.
How I wish I had visited Saigon when there were the bars Wandella alluded to in his posts. Ah well, it is what it is!
CTFO (Carry the f*ck on!
Bill.
I wasn't surprised to see this thread start to lose activity. Afterall, the bars in Saigon aren't quite what they used to be. But still, I hoped times would suddenly change in our favor. The magical day someone posts 91 has re-opened! Sadly I don't see that happening but a man can still dream.
Wendella summed it up for me with the "warm-up". There's something about going to a familiar bar, ordering a drink, and anticipating the attention from multiple girls. Whether this attention is genuinely warm (usually followed by lots of touching and kissing) or business-like, you still walked into the bar knowing you had options. And soon, that option would be decided based on which girl convincingly seduces you right there in the bar. Some may argue Apocalypse Now has a plethora of tits, asses, holes, etc. But I personally seek a little more "connection" via instant attraction, which I haven't found at Apo in years. While I've seen one or two gems at Apo, the ratio wasn't favorable enough for me to continue going there, especially when bars like 91 were booming.
Today, it seems like you need lots of cash to even get in the mood to step into a bar and expect a "good time". But I find this challenging, in a positive way. The HBT scene made me somewhat lazy and I knew I had to fix my mentality or else I would start to loathe this city. I once met a girl at Apo around 12 am. It was too early in the night to "pick her" but she was attractive enough to game. Once eye contact was established, I walked towards her. She asked me the generic questions: where I'm from, where I'm staying, are you here on business or holiday, etc. She then mentions money before her name. I immediately go cold on her and begin shifting my attention to other girls. I wasn't trying to make her jealous. I was trying to show her I'm a fun guy and I just lost interest in her. In doing so, I hoped she would slowly become attracted to me. I played random drinking games with a few girls and tossed around a few lame jokes just to get a laugh. Every once in a while I looked over to see if she was watching. On any other night, I would've been drunk in an hour and probably give in to her initial offer. But on this particular night, I was short on cash which luckily affected my drinking habits. I was sober enough to gauge her reaction and every once in a while, even throw a smile or wink in her direction. Naturally, she flirted with other customers but at some point, she would eventually realize she was either going home alone or have a second chance with me. Shortly after, I stood across from her at a table and waited for her to strike up a conversation. She looks in my direction and laughs, but doesn't say a word. I stand firm and wait for her to earn my attention. She makes a pouty gesture with her lips which I thought was cute. Then she starts talking money again. Once a hoe always a hoe. I respond with "I only have half that amount, I'm leaving right now. Meet me outside". I've tried this many times. When it failed, I simply got in a cab and went to a different bar. But this time it worked. And in the cab ride, she let me play with her tits which brought back lots of memories of HBT, particularly 35, 49, and 51.
(In my best dos equis commercial voice). Stay positive my friends.
DownUnderKeith
08-20-15, 16:00
I receive a message form a girl that working in the bar. She was telling me now there is only 5 bars with hostess in HCM.
Does anyone able to list this 5 Basr? I am coming to HCM next week. I would like to visit his 5 bar and do a comparison.
Does anyone able to list this 5 Basr? I am coming to HCM next week. I would like to visit his 5 bar and do a comparison.29 Bar on Dong Khoi.
Thien Loc on corner of Hai Ba Truong and Mac Dinh Chi.
Smiley Bar up the street from Apocalypse Now on Thai Van Lung street.
Coconut Bar on Thi Sach near LE Thanh Ton.
There's one that used to be called Little Princess or something like this on Nguyen Sieu near HBT.
I think there's one more still on LE Thanh Ton just before you get to Thai Van Lung.
Go tell your girl there are six, not five.
Just remembered there's one more, on Dong Du street on the same side as the Starbucks.
Seven.
None are much good though.
I receive a message form a girl that working in the bar. She was telling me now there is only 5 bars with hostess in HCM.
Does anyone able to list this 5 Basr? I am coming to HCM next week. I would like to visit his 5 bar and do a comparison.I went around that area last night. The bar on Dong Du is gone, it is being gutted now. No big loss there.
In the spot where 49 Bar was before, there is now a new "lady bar" called Lounge The High. Strange name, I know. Inside, the place looks fresh and classier than most of the old HBT bars were, but the girls sure did not. Definitely the older and less attractive type at this place, some faces that seemed familiar from bars from days gone by. Also the young bartender was previously the bartender at 91, and I think at Thien Loc before that. And she's not "available". The place looks very new, and so there's hope yet, if they get some new girls in.
Across the street and down an alley was another brand new bar called "Ly Ly", and it's similar to Lounge the High where it's brand new and with some older veteran girls working there. They told me they would be getting new girls in next week.
I looked in at a few other places, including Thien Loc, 29 Dong Khoi and Smile Bar, and none of them looked like they had any young attractive ones. Sometimes when bars close, girls shift to the new ones and you can see nice ones in some formerly bad bars. Not this time. All bad, so far.
I was told by one girl that the bar formerly known as Bin Bin is "gone forever".
I found this place a couple years ago and have been back a couple times whenever I visit HCMC. I'm on this board doing research for my current Taiwan trip but since I'll be in HCMC in a couple days I decided to write this post since I never see any mention of it on here. The last time I was there was last year so I'm doing this by memory and I don't remember the exact prices. Basically on the second floor of the Vien Dong Hotel on PNL there's a spa that gives HJ. I think it was 200 k-300 k for an hour massage but don't quote me on it. I usually tip around the same price as the massage. I've never seen foreigners in here so I'm not sure if it's a local only place. I do all my communications here in Vietnamese.
Basically, when you go up to the second floor the receptionist table is right there. Usually they'll try to sell you the VIP room which includes a shower, sauna, and TV in the room. I've gotten the VIP room a couple times and tried to ask the girl if there was any "extra" in the VIP room but so far I've only gotten the answer that it just includes the shower, sauna, etc. If you don't get the VIP room they'll lead you to a locker room where you undress and put your close in, there's also a plastic bag where you can put your phone and wallet in to take with you, you'll also take the locker key with you. While in the locker room the helper guy will ask you if you're looking for a specific number or if you don't have a number then he'll ask you what kind of girl you want. Next you'll head to the shower area which has curtains, there's also a jacuzzi I think. The next part is a little fuzzy for me since I got the VIP room the last couple times but I think near the shower area there will be a guy that hands you your shorts and robe. After that you'll be lead to your room some how, sorry I forgot the exact details here. Next part is typical, the girl comes in and gives you a massage then finish you off with a HJ.
I usually like coming here because of the convenient location and every girl I've gotten so far have been pretty cute. I usually get the girl's number and text her the next time I want to come to make sure she's available. The last time I was there I was able to talk the girl into agreeing to come to my hotel and stay the night for $200. She was pretty hot so I just threw a number at her to see if she agreed. However, to spend the night she had to ask time off of work and the only day she could do it that week was Friday night. Originally, that this was okay because I thought I was flying out Sunday morning but it turned out I was flying out Saturday morning so I had to cancel the appointment. I was hoping to hit her up again this coming trip but my phone got reset so I lost all my text messages so I don't know who's number is who among my contacts from that place.
I found this place a couple years ago and have been back a couple times whenever I visit HCMC. I'm on this board doing research for my current Taiwan trip but since I'll be in HCMC in a couple days I decided to write this post since I never see any mention of it on here. The last time I was there was last year so I'm doing this by memory and I don't remember the exact prices. Basically on the second floor of the Vien Dong Hotel on PNL there's a spa that gives HJ. I think it was 200 k-300 k for an hour massage but don't quote me on it. I usually tip around the same price as the massage. I've never seen foreigners in here so I'm not sure if it's a local only place. I do all my communications here in Vietnamese.
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread. Is there a way to move it?
I found this place a couple years ago and have been back a couple times whenever I visit HCMC. I'm on this board doing research for my current Taiwan trip but since I'll be in HCMC in a couple days I decided to write this post since I never see any mention of it on here. The last time I was there was last year so I'm doing this by memory and I don't remember the exact prices. Basically on the second floor of the Vien Dong Hotel on PNL there's a spa that gives HJ. I think it was 200 k-300 k for an hour massage but don't quote me on it. I usually tip around the same price as the massage. I've never seen foreigners in here so I'm not sure if it's a local only place. I do all my communications here in Vietnamese.Sorry, I realize there are reports of Vien Dong, I just searched in the wrong thread.
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread. Is there a way to move it?It's too late to delete your post. Maybe you can click "report this post" to the admin and ask him to move it?
Or just copy and paste your long report here and re-post it to Massage thread.
Either way it's not that big a deal. I wouldn't worry about it.
Last week I went to have a look at the remaining bars in district 1.
The most promising one was called Ly Ly, it's in an alley off of Hai Ba Trung kind of near the Indian restaurant over there (Ganesh). Actually the girls were not good. The owners are the sisters who used to own Two Sisters bar. That one was actually very good right before it was shut down, with a few hot young things in there, and a good attitude in the bar, you could really have some sleazy fun right there before heading off to a hotel with her. One of the sister owners asked me to let people know about their bar, and she said next week they will get new girls in. I guess she realizes that her current group is not very good. If her promise comes true, then it could be a good place. But if the talent doesn't pick up, then I think this place and the rest are doomed.
I went into the Lounge bar that is where Bar 49 used to be. It was similar with about 7 girls, none attractive. Not girls, because they all seemed to be 30's or so, or late 20's at the youngest.
It makes me wonder if the police told them they could stay open only if they don't get attractive girls to work there.
As my title indicates, my thoughts on Apocalypse Now differ radically from the prevailing opinion usually expressed here: I absolutely love the place. I've been to Saigon maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and I've hit Apocalypse on each occasion, never being disappointed (save on longer trips, when after a few nights you start to recognize the same faces over and over again).
Since I haven't seen much written about it lately except a few cursory disparaging reviews, I thought I'd give a quick overview for any newbs or tourists who might be in town and looking to check it out. First things first, prices / particulars: beers aren't as cheap as other places, but neither are they ridiculously expensive, and if you're budget conscious you probably don't want to be shopping here anyway - plenty of cheaper options as everyone knows. Coronas are at the top of the scale at (I think) 135 k, for half that you can get Tiger in a can, and I think there is something local even cheaper at 55 k. I don't know about booze because I don't drink hard liquor when I'm out and about. There is also a cover charge of around 100 k or on weekends, which is partially refundable on a drink coupon. The universal price for a girl is 2 MM, plus hotel if you don't already have one (exceptions are possible, more on that later). There is no "long time" or "short time", or rather, if a girl asks you that question I suggest you move along to the next girl who strikes your fancy. It should be 2 MM overnight, and BRING CONDOMS; the girls don't have them. The short time hotels probably do have them available for purchase but not always. And regarding hotels (for the newbs), as is well-documented elsewhere in the Vietnam forum, your 5-star Western hotel will absolutely not allow girls in after 9 pm, so plan accordingly by either staying at a small local GF hotel or being ready to pay for a short-time hotel, which runs anywhere from 300-600 k for late-night until morning.
Now, on to the layout and the scene. Although the bar opens early, it doesn't pick up with a good crowd until 11 or midnight. That always works out perfectly for me as it give me time for dinner and drinks with my local friends, which give way to fake yawns and complaints of jet-lag around 10 PM. =P Then it's a dash back to my hotel to freshen up and get ready for game time. When you walk in there are always a couple larger tables occupied by groups of 6-8 girls, usually with a bottle or two in the middle. They're on the left, closer to the stage but parallel to the bar (so, not all the way up in front of the DJ). I like to call these the Hardcore Girls as they're there every single night, they tend to leave in a pack together, and I've never seen any of them go with a guy, so don't waste your time. I've chatted up a few myself on a couple occasions, but never got anywhere. I really don't understand why they're there if they're not working, who knows. Anyway avoid them. Focus instead on the girls at the smaller tables nearer the door. They're all working, though they also tend to be semi-regulars. Nothing wrong with that, and I've taken a few of them out for wonderful experiences.
There are two more contingents of girls where I tend to focus my energy though. First is the solo or pairs of girls standing near the walkway between the two bars, or at the ends of the bars nearest those walkways. I may be just over analyzing (as you can probably tell, I've spent A LOT of time in this bar! But those girls tend to be non-pro or just part-time, non-local girls (often from Hanoi) in Saigon for a few weeks to work and pick up some extra cash. They don't know anyone except maybe the friend or two they're travelling with, so they generally won't be drinking at a table with a bottle or a bunch of food and a small crowd of girls. They come to HCMC because nobody knows them and I don't think there's much opportunity for this type of side-work in Hanoi. I've met two extremely memorable ladies from that segment of the population, one of whom still sends me WhatsApp messages once a year or so when she's going to Saigon. You've got to pick and choose carefully, but generally these girls are rich with potential.
There is one more rare and elusive creature to keep an eye out for. The local true part-timer / non-working girl. I've met a few of these unicorns, and they can be the most fun just because the hunt is more fun. They'll show up very late on Friday or Saturday (after midnight, or even later), usually solo, and they'll hang out at the bar nearer to the DJ (right across from the tables of Hardcore Girls). They tend to be well-under the radar (no short skirts, no low-cut tops), and they're elusive. I've often blinked and missed them, but if you can find one, enjoy. I met one such girl when I was in town earlier this year, and have been thinking about her ever since, but I couldn't get in touch with her this time. I did see a friend of hers one evening (a friend who, incidentally joined us in a threesome last trip! Who told me my unicorn was in Myanmar, so I guess that's why I couldn't reach her on her VN phone # or via WhatsApp. BTW the friend was beautiful but a bit of a cold fish, so despite the prior threesome I had no interest in rekindling anything with her.
A couple final tips: not every girl here is working, so don't assume you can pick up anyone. There always seem to be some local couples / groups, and they're usually up near the DJ. I suspect it's entirely possible to infiltrate and pick off a 5th wheel from these groups, because they all know what goes on at this bar, but you probably want to be discreet about it to avoid any trouble. Also don't bother going upstairs, I don't even know why they open it. Or, maybe, do bother if you're looking to pick off that 5th wheel, because it seems to be just locals up there.
And don't disparage if the next thing you know, it's 2 or 3 AM, the bar is clearing out, and you haven't found your sweetheart. Go2 Bar isn't far away and it's open until dawn. In fact, there's a good chance you'll see some familiar faces as some of the regulars from Apocalypse head there later. I'll leave that for Part 2 .
OK, so it's 2 or 3 AM and the crowd at Apocalypse has thinned out; even the Hardcore Girls have left en masse for god only knows wherever they all go. You spent too much time chatting up too many girls, unable to make a decision, and now you're drunk and horny. What's a fellow to do? My honest advice is to go back to your hotel and get a good night's rest. But of course we all know that's not going to happen (not if you're me, anyway). Your 2nd best option then is Go2 Bar. It's in what's known as the backpacker's district, not far from Apocalypse. A taxi will cost you maybe 20 or 30 k, and the drivers will all know the bar by name.
I'll start by admitting I have very mixed feelings about this bar, though as I've been thinking about writing Part 2 of my report, I don't really fully understand why because I've had fantastic success here. But there's just something about the bar I viscerally dislike. Frankly, it's a shithole. It's small, loud, the music is terrible, and it's usually full of sloppy drunken white hippies in flip flops and dirty t-shirts. Pretty much the exact opposite of Apocalypse Now. But when it's late at night and you're still on the hunt it's a good bet, at least on weekends. I seem to recall having been in here once or twice pretty late on a weeknight and it was dead, although one of those times I met a lovely girl and had a great evening with her, so I guess it doesn't hurt to take your chances even if it's a random Tuesday or Wednesday.
As I mentioned in Part 1, you very well may see a few familiar faces here as some of the girls from Apocalypse migrate over later in the evening. But you'll also see some fresh new faces. I'm not completely sure but I have a hunch that Apocalypse screens the girls they allow in, plus I'm pretty sure they charge them some kind of back door "cover charge", so I think that keeps some girls away. The two girls I recall picking up from Go2 Bar over the years were both very cute, stylishly dressed, etc. , BUT. Both had pretty minimal English, so I wonder if that might also be part of the Apocalypse screening criteria. I've never met a girl in Apocalypse whose English wasn't excellent (relatively speaking), so I do think that has something to do with it. Regardless the girls I've met at Go2 Bar weren't zero English speakers, so communication wasn't a problem. "You like me?" "We go?" "You have condom?" is about all they need anyway!
I met one such girl on my recent trip, after striking out at Apocalypse. Actually I *thought* I had struck gold at Apocalypse, with a lovely young hottie who I had never seen before. We spent an hour or so chatting and drinking, and then she asked me if I wanted to go to a karaoke bar in the backpacker district. I joined her, and it turns out her friend is a waitress there, and the bar was dead, and it wasn't going anywhere with her, so I made my excuses and left for Go2 Bar. I'm still not sure if she was just stringing me along, but it was late and I decided to cut my losses. At Go2 Bar I didn't really do much surveillance before I was caught up with a very cute little spinner named Linh. One problem with the place is that it's so small, it can be tough to really get a good overview of the available ladies when it's crowded. The bar is probably 75%+ dirty hippies dancing and drinking, and the working girls usually congregate on the outskirts of the dance floor (which is 90% of the bar). My spinner was at a table near the door, so that's pretty much as far as I got.
I'm not much of a kiss and tell guy, so I'll leave out the gory details of my time with her. I was pretty drunk so after a half hour or so at the short time hotel, I realized the end wasn't, *ahem*, coming, so we slept for an hour or two and the next thing I knew it was light outside. We left the hotel, she asked if I was hungry, and of course I was so she took me to a nearby pho restaurant for breakfast. After that we went back to my hotel for more sleep and since it was after 7 AM, she could officially "visit" after dropping her ID off at the front desk. A few more hours sleep, another round of good sex and the long awaiting successful finish, and I sent her on her way around noon. In retrospect I should have asked her to stay as she was a very enthusiastic and lovely girl between the sheets, but I felt I needed some solid solo sleep. I should point out that at no time had there been any discussion of money, neither the night before nor during breakfast nor during our time at my hotel. That's one really nice thing about a LOT of girls I've met at both Apocalypse and Go2 Bar. We all know we're paying for it, but it's nice when the girl trusts you and doesn't obsess about it. I'the say most of the girls I've met in Saigon are like that, but definitely not all of them. Stay tuned for more on that in Part 3.
Except for my Go2 Bar spinner, I haven't really given much of a detailed "trip report", so let me finish up by doing just that. Thanks to work and other commitments, I only had the pleasure of spending time with three girls: Linh the spinner plus two girls from Apocalypse.
The first Apocalypse girl, Kim, was definitely one of the unicorns I always look for. She's a local girl, not a regular, and I've never seen her before in Apocalypse (nor did I see her again after the night I met her). I almost missed her as she showed up pretty late and I just happened to bump into her at the bar when I was refilling my empty Corona hand. We retired to the back / outside area to chat a bit, then headed out. She took me to her apartment (so no hotel fee) and again no mention of money at all. A good time was had, and after just a couple hours of sleep I was awakened by the early morning noises from the apartment building: yapping dogs, creaking pipes, slamming doors, etc. I decided to just head back to my hotel so I could get some sleep, and I quickly got her phone # but either I entered it into my phone wrong, or she wasn't interested in hanging out again because try as I might I couldn't reach her for the rest of my stay. I was disappointed because she was very pretty, and a fun girl in bed. I left her 2 MM on the coffee table as I was heading out.
I believe I met Kim on a Friday evening, and the next night I had similar luck. Well, maybe; I'm still not sure how I feel about Vyy. She was another outlier at Apocalypse. Not a regular, showed up alone and late, and wow. She was a strikingly beautiful girl. We clicked right away, and after a couple drinks and a bit of getting to know each other, we headed back to a hotel where her friend had a room. The friend was out somewhere, so she let us use the room for a couple hours. It was exhausting, crazy hot sex. Really outstanding. Vyy was completely up-front with me from the beginning: she works the "circuit" between Shanghai (Manhattan Bar) and Singapore (Brix), and occasionally Hong Kong (though she said it's harder for some reason to get a HKG visa these days.) She had just arrived back home from Shanghai to renew her visa. She said she almost never goes to Apocalypse when she's in Saigon but was feeling horny so. Just my luck! After our quick romp I gave her 2 MM, and we exchanged numbers.
She had plans to spend a day / night in Thailand with a friend the next day, but she asked if we could get together when she returned. I said sure, but didn't really expect it. But, she was serious and stayed in touch. When she came back, I thought it would be nice to have a proper "date" so we had a nice dinner, then some drinks at one of the many sky bars around town, and finally migrated to another bar somewhere around Apocalypse. And that's where things went south; she started asking me if I wanted long time or short time that evening which, to me, was just in poor taste considering I'the just spent maybe $100 USD on dinner and drinks. I didn't tell her that, but I did tell her that I wasn't expecting free sex later and that I would of course pay her, but she kept insisting long or short, 2 MM or 3 MM? I got fed up and sent her home, then headed to Apocalypse for greener pastures. But wouldn't you know it an hour later my phone starts blowing up with "I miss you baby" and "I'm horny come over" messages, so my little head got the better of me and I acquiesced. She even told me she had a hotel room, which sounded great because it was one less expense for me (or so I thought). Of course when we left the next morning she stood there at the front desk waiting for me to pay for the room. So, overall, while she was gorgeous, and the sex was outstanding, she left me with a sour taste in my mouth. I guess I should have known better. She's one of those mercenary working girls who just want to squeeze every dime from gentleman like us, but she hides it pretty well. At least she was fantastic in the sack, so it wasn't a total wash for me. But I should have listened to my spidey sense when I sent her away and just ignored her when she messaged me later.
A couple final thoughts. There was a recent thread where I think someone said he could barely find a 7 in Apocalypse, and all I can say is wow, maybe I have low standards! I'm a pretty hard grader myself, but that statement just seems silly. I think 7 is an easy grab, they're a dime a dozen. 8's and 9's are fewer but they're still there, and I did even see one girl I'd grade even higher. That's what I love so much about Apocalypse. The quality of the girls is very high in my opinion. Weekends obviously are much better, but even on slow weeknights there are plenty of very attractive ladies. And to pre-empt the inevitable comparison to the billiard bars of yore (and the few that still remain), I've been in a few of those bars in D1 (my first trip to Saigon was several years ago when there were still at least 2 or 3 within spitting distance from Apocalypse. Gone now, of course). All I can say is: there's no comparison. Not to demean anyone's preferences, but the girls I've seen in those places are farm girls in cheap cocktail dresses. The girls in Apocalypse are prettier, classier, better dressed, speak better English, and they don't constantly pester you for lady drinks. Just my $0. 02, coming from someone whose favorite place in the world is a working girl pickup bar.
Anyway happy hunting, gents. I hope I can get back to HCMC and Apocalypse Now sooner than later!.
Back in 2012, I visited a bar called Lodge Bui down towards the end of 39/2 Pham Ngoc Thach. Would anyone know if this place is still open and if the girls hanging out there are just regular girls or freelancers?
It seemed like a decent place to hang out. Live band and pool table upstairs. Saw a few bargirls hanging out back then, but never had a chance to chat them up (was with my Ex at the time).
Cheers,
F2.
As my title indicates, my thoughts on Apocalypse Now differ radically from the prevailing opinion usually expressed here: I absolutely love the place. I've been to Saigon maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and I've hit Apocalypse on each occasion, never being disappointed (save on longer trips, when after a few nights you start to recognize the same faces over and over again).I think you mentioned in one of your Parts that girls in Apocalypse looked better to you than ones in the HBT bars. I haven't stepped inside Apocalypse in years, so it is possible that quality has improved a lot since when I used to go there sometimes. And for sure the HBT bars these days are in a dreadful state, not really worth visiting actually. Those bars went through a series of serious clampdowns a couple years ago, with people being put in prison even. The bars mostly closed down, with just a few remaining open, and those with far lesser talent than in years past. They are basically stocked with girls (ok, ladies) who should be retired from that career path by now. One guy posted here a while ago about a new bar called Ly Ly on HBT, also another one there. I stopped in at both. Dismal. He seemed hopeful. I see no reason to hope. I checked in at every one of the bars down there over a couple nights. Not ONE young hot one in any bar.
In the past, there was one bar for sure that had hotter better girls than Apocalypse (at the time), it was called 91. It almost always had at least one or 2 superstar girls, and the rest looked pretty damn good too. The tradeoff was that it was tamer than other bars, not much chance you'd be doing any fingering or french-kissing there. There was a bar on LE Thanh Ton called Bin Bin that also often had hotties, just not in abundance like 91.49 and 51 were also often pretty good.
I ended up one of those nights at 29 on Dong Khoi. I spotted a non-familiar face, slim girl with dark skin. Apparently her first night there but this girl clearly had experience. She said she was 18 but there's no way she was that young. Spoke zero English. She got aggressive once we embraced, had this way of kind of growling something in muttered Vietnamese as she did her thing, kind of animalistic. Things got well out of control right there at a downstairs table. My belt ended up hanging down from my pants somehow. Al kinds of things got touched, by both of us. Some DFK but not all out. I think they padded an extra lady drink (80) onto the bill, which came to 450 or so. I tried tipping her 300 but she was not pleased, so it was 400. That's too much for non-FS and non-BJ, I would say. Anyway, I did see 2 girls (her being one of them) who most guys would be ok with for this kind of thing, or even the upstairs kind of thing. The rest looked like the ones from the other bars, not good. I lucked out in a way because soon after arriving and settling in with this girl, a group of Koreans came in and went straight upstairs, which I was told was for FS or BJ only. (It didn't used to be that way there) So me and my girl were not allowed to go upstairs till they finished, so it meant she needed to do something else to keep me entertained. Fine by me because I wasn't into spending extra large on FS or BJ there.
So if you like the tiger type, there's a pretty good one at 29 now.
Back in 2012, I visited a bar called Lodge Bui down towards the end of 39/2 Pham Ngoc Thach. Would anyone know if this place is still open and if the girls hanging out there are just regular girls or freelancers?
It seemed like a decent place to hang out. Live band and pool table upstairs. Saw a few bargirls hanging out back then, but never had a chance to chat them up (was with my Ex at the time).
Cheers,
F2Bui bar closed about 6 months ago. These girls where neither just hanging out nor freelancers. They were "hostesses". You can get friendly with them by going to the bar a few times, tip them, and get their number to see them after work. But that whole process has always looked pointless to me. You either make an effort and get a free girl, or pay and get a WG, but making an effort to chase a girl who's job it is to sit on your lap for tips. ? Pointless.
They did always have a nice Pilipino band, not sure where they went.
Bui bar closed about 6 months ago...
They did always have a nice Pilipino band, not sure where they went.Sounds like a setup similar to the hostess bars on Soi 33 in BKK (with less success rate). Agreed about the band.
Thanks for the heads up. Saved me a trip over there. I appreciate it.
Cheers,
F2.
AmericanThief
11-12-15, 16:23
Its been a long time. I've been sticking with my regular girls and the Hot Tocs. My regulars like me and one hot toc girl has been serving me well for over 3 years.
The GF thing was making me happy for a while but then I got tired of them. I wanted to fuck a new face. I walked over to BV and found a PYT straight from the village.
She was so new that in the hotel she DIDN'T take a shower. LOL she pulled me to the bed and we kissed long and deep. Very nice. She couldn't BJ well, so that was out.
I fucked her. She didn't want doggie because she was worried about anal. At least that's what I think from her body language. Mish was fine, but she cringed a lot and pushed back.
I basically took this girl because of the fantasy like a virgin. She was really new, like one week according to the boss and her "sister. " Her sister is Thao, whom I also fucked before, so I figured Thao recruited her. Anyway, it wasn't bad. The kissing and holding and her face oh man her face when I was pounding that tiny thing was priceless. It felt good too.
I'll spill the damage, but I don't want to hear anything about price because I've lived here for 4 years now, and I don't P4 P very often. Like I said, I've got 3 girlfriends who want to meet me all the time, and my hot toc girl gives me porn star service, but I was in the mood so I dished out 1. 5 mil, plus ST hotel 150 and 600 on drinks. Moreover, it was safe. No internet, wechat bullshit. So there it is. Here is after the fuck, no makeup, frizzed out hair. Totally worked over and still so so cute. OMG.
AmericanThief
11-12-15, 16:33
Its been a long time. I've been sticking with my regular girls and the Hot Tocs. My regulars like me and one hot toc girl has been serving me well for over 3 years.
The GF thing was making me happy for a while but then I got tired of them. I wanted to fuck a new face. I walked over to BV and found a PYT straight from the village.
She was so new that in the hotel she DIDN'T take a shower. LOL she pulled me to the bed and we kissed long and deep. Very nice. She couldn't BJ well, so that was out.
I fucked her. She didn't want doggie because she was worried about anal. At least that's what I think from her body language. Mish was fine, but she cringed a lot and pushed back.
I basically took this girl because of the fantasy like a virgin. She was really new, like one week according to the boss and her "sister. " Her sister is Thao, whom I also fucked before, so I figured Thao recruited her. Anyway, it wasn't bad. The kissing and holding and her face oh man her face when I was pounding that tiny thing was priceless. It felt good too.
I'll spill the damage, but I don't want to hear anything about price because I've lived here for 4 years now, and I don't P4 P very often. Like I said, I've got 3 girlfriends who want to meet me all the time, and my hot toc girl gives me porn star service, but I was in the mood so I dished out 1. 5 mil, plus ST hotel 150 and 600 on drinks. Moreover, it was safe. No internet, wechat bullshit. So there it is. Here is after the fuck, no makeup, frizzed out hair. Totally worked over and still so so cute. OMG.
AmericanThief
11-12-15, 16:40
Well Its been a long time. I've been sticking with my regular girls and the Hot Tocs. My regulars like me and one hot toc girl has been serving me well for over 3 years.
And The GF thing was making me happy for a while but then I got tired of them. I wanted to fuck a new face. I walked over to BV and found a PYT straight from the village.
Man She was so new that in the hotel she DIDN'T take a shower. LOL she pulled me to the bed and we kissed long and deep. Very nice. She couldn't BJ well, so that was out.
I fucked her. She didn't want doggie because she was worried about anal. At least that's what I think from her body language. Mish was fine, but she cringed a lot and pushed back.
I basically took this girl because of the fantasy like a virgin. She was really new, like one week according to the boss and her "sister. " Her sister is Thao, whom I also fucked before, so I figured Thao recruited her. Anyway, it wasn't bad. The kissing and holding and her face oh man her face when I was pounding that tiny thing was priceless. It felt good too.
I'll spill the damage, but I don't want to hear anything about price because I've lived here for 4 years now, and I don't P4 P very often. Like I said, I've got 3 girlfriends who want to meet me all the time, and my hot toc girl gives me porn star service, but I was in the mood so I dished out 1. 5 mil, plus ST hotel 150 and 600 on drinks. Moreover, it was safe. No internet, wechat bullshit. So there it is. Here is after the fuck, no makeup, frizzed out hair. Totally worked over and still so so cute. OMG.
In the spot where 49 Bar was before, there is now a new "lady bar" called Lounge The High. Strange name, I know. Inside, the place looks fresh and classier than most of the old HBT bars were, but the girls sure did not. Definitely the older and less attractive type at this place, some faces that seemed familiar from bars from days gone by. Also the young bartender was previously the bartender at 91, and I think at Thien Loc before that. And she's not "available". The place looks very new, and so there's hope yet, if they get some new girls in.
Across the street and down an alley was another brand new bar called "Ly Ly", and it's similar to Lounge the High where it's brand new and with some older veteran girls working there. They told me they would be getting new girls in next week.
I looked in at a few other places, including Thien Loc, 29 Dong Khoi and Smile Bar, and none of them looked like they had any young attractive ones. Sometimes when bars close, girls shift to the new ones and you can see nice ones in some formerly bad bars. Not this time. All bad, so far.How much where they charging?
How much where they charging?I never got that far. I would only ask that if I was with a girl I was interested in. That did not seem possible in ANY of these bars. Seriously, D.ones on Bui Vien and Do Quang Do are much cuter and younger than these. I don't see how these places can possibly bounce back again.
Seriously, D.ones on Bui Vien and Do Quang Do are much cuter and younger than theseTake it that's the name of the club.
Is "Do Quang Do" on Bui Vien as well?
How much would they start by asking and what should I haggle them down to?
Take it that's the name of the club.
Is "Do Quang Do" on Bui Vien as well?
How much would they start by asking and what should I haggle them down to?No those are the names of the streets, bars are on those 2 streets, mostly near the intersection of the 2.
I've heard 1 million 500 is going rate, never did take from one of those places myself so not sure. American Thief here is more familiar with them.
No those are the names of the streets, bars are on those 2 streets, mostly near the intersection of the 2.
I've heard 1 million 500 is going rate, never did take from one of those places myself so not sure. American Thief here is more familiar with them.Now we are talking the prices I could pay in the states not a 3rd world country.
CrackAddict
12-03-15, 09:50
I was in HCMC last month and the bar scene has really gone downhill since I was last there in May 2013, right before the closing of all the bars near HBT. I went to APO and it is pretty close to what it was a couple years ago. There are a few decent lookers and and quite a few not so decent looking, but the big difference now is that they are asking 3 million instead of 2 million. None of the ones I talked to were worth half of that. Most of the action seems to be in the Pham Ngu Lao area. There are a couple bars on Bui Vien across from Crazy Girl bar (where there is no barfine but girls with average / below average looks) around 57 or 59 and the cross street Do Quang Dau. Despite the slim pickings, I was able to find a couple diamonds in the rough. There is a small bar called Kimis on Bui Vien that has about 6-8 girls working. A few were above average. This is where I found one of the diamonds. She was a solid 8 and had a fun and playful attitude (a rare combination here) and quoted 2 million for all night and 1. 5 for short-time (I was able to talk her down a little from the short time price). Lady drinks are 90 k and they drink them fast. I met her the first night I arrived and went back a few times looking for her but never saw her again. If you go there looking for her, I would advise going early. I wish I took her all night and got her number but I was jet lagged and didn't have a SIM card yet. I met the other (a very cute 20 year-old freelancer) at Go 2 Bar a couple days later who didn't want to be paid. That should have been a warning. She gave me the girlfriend experience, and while it would have been cheaper to just pay for sex, I have no regrets. I took her on a cruise of Ha Long Bay and spent a lot of time (and money) with her throughout the month I was there, and she is still text me and wanting to know when we are getting married!
!I was in HCMC last month and the bar scene has really gone downhill since I was last there in May 2013, right before the closing of all the bars near HBT.What do you think has caused all this then?
WhrsWhisperer
01-05-16, 11:36
They're temporarily excluded from bars, but they still need money. Where else are they going to find customers? Any information or ideas from the Expats here?
I was in Apocalypse Now last night, at prime time. There were less than 10 working girls present, with many more single guys on hand. A real sausage fest.
A manager told me that there is a temporary crackdown on bars with working girls, limiting the number of single (unescorted) women they can admit to the bar. He expects the situation to last only a week.
The working girls still have bills to pay, so they will seek customers in other ways. Again, any information or ideas on where?
Thanks
NguyetLang
01-06-16, 16:57
They're temporarily excluded from bars, but they still need money. Where else are they going to find customers? Any information or ideas from the Expats here?
I was in Apocalypse Now last night, at prime time. There were less than 10 working girls present, with many more single guys on hand. A real sausage fest.
A manager told me that there is a temporary crackdown on bars with working girls, limiting the number of single (unescorted) women they can admit to the bar. He expects the situation to last only a week.
The working girls still have bills to pay, so they will seek customers in other ways. Again, any information or ideas on where?
ThanksThe Communist Party Congress, will be over by end of month. Meanwhile, activities move to the web. The trend is going that way. You better get use to wechat, zalo, call girl websites (some examples below), and get real good with google translate. Business appears thriving on internet, more than ever.
kynu.net
danchoi.xxx
thiendia.com
Happy mongering.
Peter.
LukeSkywalker
01-22-16, 16:43
She's one of the more popular bar girls on Bui Vien and a sexy tigress in bed.
I lost her tel number. Anybody has seen her or know how and where to contact her?
LukeSkywalker
01-23-16, 01:36
Do Quang Dau is another street intersecting Bui Vien at the West end. These are the 2 main bar streets in the back packers district. Altogether I estimate about 20 bars and cafes in this area, nothing as massive as Pattaya, Sukkhumvit or Patpong.
It's weird how the streets are deserted by 5 AM, but the music is still blaring out of the bars, and girls are still perching on their high chairs trying to entice any dick who walks by.
By 6 AM most girls would be fairly drunk and start going home. They would go to the bike keepers to claim their scooters; some will stop by the food vendors to order food to go, presumably for their asshole boyfriends who live off their fuck proceeds. Some of these girls do look attractive. You can approach these girls and offer them to sleep off in your hotel, then lunch, before they go back to work in the same clothes the next day. Hehehe. You should be able to book a few for far less than 1 mil VnD.
A lot of girls sitting in bars have no guys buying drinks, so they work Wechat, offering all night deals starting at 8 PM for about 1 Mil and St for 500 k VnD. But they all use fake pics. I have never seen a Wechat girl who look anywhere like their pics. Most are far uglier and chunkier, some are ladyboys selling BJs. I stopped wasting time.
Take it that's the name of the club.
Is "Do Quang Do" on Bui Vien as well?
How much would they start by asking and what should I haggle them down to?
AmericanThief
01-23-16, 12:36
By 6 AM most girls would be fairly drunk and start going home. They would go to the bike keepers to claim their scooters; some will stop by the food vendors to order food to go, presumably for their asshole boyfriends who live off their fuck proceeds. Some of these girls do look attractive. You can approach these girls and offer them to sleep off in your hotel, then lunch, before they go back to work in the same clothes the next day. Hehehe. You should be able to book a few for far less than 1 mil VnD.
A lot of girls sitting in bars have no guys buying drinks, so they work Wechat, offering all night deals starting at 8 PM for about 1 Mil and St for 500 k VnD. Totally disagree with this because I live in walking distance to BV for the past 4 years. The girls don't get very drunk because lady drinks are light. They don't have scooters. They all live in the same house provided by the owner / manager of the bar, usually upstairs or in the alley. They don't have boyfriends. They love only money. They don't want to sleep in your hotel or have lunch with you the next day, and would never be caught going to work the next day in the same clothes. In fact, they aren't allowed to sleep anywhere as long as they are employees of the bar unless you pay the BF and still long time means 1 or 2 am until sunrise, like 6 am. You get to pop as much as you want in that time, but as soon as there is daylight they are gone. BVbar girls will not settle for 1 mil. 1. 5 is the going rate now for st. They are not homeless and so desperate to go with you just to sleep in a hotel for a little * change. They all want iphones and ipads and new shoes and letting them sleep in your hotel room plus 500 k isn't going to buy jack shit.
Sure they all work the social sites when they have no customers, but never 1 mil long time nor 500st.
Sounds like you think Vietnam is Philippines of the 1990's, which its not.
She's one of the more popular bar girls on Bui Vien and a sexy tigress in bed.
I lost her tel number. Anybody has seen her or know how and where to contact her?I'm sure if you go back to the bar she worked at and show those girls there her photo, or the mamasan, should be able to track her down that way. Much more efficient than here. Tip whoever gets you in touch with her. I once re-contacted a girl I hadn't seen in 2 years that way.
Asian Lover Oz
02-06-16, 06:04
What's the deal with Chu Bar? My mate from Aus recommended it and sure enough the girls working behind the bar are pretty and sexy. But are they available?? I didn't stay around long as it was too smokey for me and didn't see any freelancers.
MaxThunder
03-11-16, 08:50
The problem in Apo is the price they ask nowadays, IMO you can always find a real hottie in the crowd, but when they ask 200, 300usd or more, and they still think they are doing you a favor, it makes me crazy! The best deal around in Apo these days would be 100usd for 1 shot. 2 shots for this price would be fair if the girl has good attitude and service, but almost impossible to negotiate with most of them.
About Chill bar, absolutely not interesting, very Hi class and show off place, yes for sure you will see "models" kind of girls but they will be with rich locals already or you will have to show you are rich spending an insane amount of money for bottles etc. I think it doesn't worth it but if that's your thing and you can afford it then you can give it a try. Air 360 is a better option for sky bar with a nicer atmosphere, more reasonable prices and still nice girls around.I Google chill bar in HCMC and it looks like the beers are about $6 and the wine is around $12 USD. That's pretty cheap considering where I'm coming from. Is this expensive because outside of Chill bar is dramatically cheaper? Would you happen to have any recommendations where I can have the best chance of meeting English speaking girls. I just want to make sure I've got a girl on my arm every night so I can have overnight company.
I Google chill bar in HCMC and it looks like the beers are about $6 and the wine is around $12 USD. That's pretty cheap considering where I'm coming from. Is this expensive because outside of Chill bar is dramatically cheaper? Would you happen to have any recommendations where I can have the best chance of meeting English speaking girls. I just want to make sure I've got a girl on my arm every night so I can have overnight company.Go to Apocalypse Now. It gets a lot of shit on this forum from the old timers who remember the days of billiard bars on every street corner, but I've always had fanastic luck there. Going price is 2 million overnight, quality is top notch.
Go to Apocalypse Now. It gets a lot of shit on this forum from the old timers who remember the days of billiard bars on every street corner, but I've always had fanastic luck there. Going price is 2 million overnight, quality is top notch.Hey you young whipper snapper, we still have ears that work, you know. You're darn tootin' we used to use the billiard bars, they were cheaper than Apo and they had more girls and cuter ones (and younger ones to be found). I haven't been in Apo for years, so for all I know you could be right about how it is now. I did take a gander at the remaining billiard bars and instantly decided to take them off the list of places to check out when making the rounds. They're basically replaced by the Bui Vien bars, but even those don't get the quality that HBT used to have.
MutantChicken
03-14-16, 03:30
Go to Apocalypse Now. It gets a lot of shit on this forum from the old timers who remember the days of billiard bars on every street corner, but I've always had fanastic luck there. Going price is 2 million overnight, quality is top notch.I think someone needs to put qualifiers on this post, firstly what he terms as top notch maybe be termed something quite more mundane by others, secondly whilst 2 mill is quite possible, expect 3-4 mill for the top girls at APO, finally overnight isn't quite overnight its more like 2-3 am till 6 am. Admittedly I haven't been to APO in like 6 years but in the times I have been I haven't been impressed esp with the prices. Go in APO expecting 2 mill ST and getting girls in the 6's /7's but MILFs and you will be more realistic.
What's the deal with Chu Bar? My mate from Aus recommended it and sure enough the girls working behind the bar are pretty and sexy. But are they available?? I didn't stay around long as it was too smokey for me and didn't see any freelancers.These are not freelancers, this is in essence a BMD bar. I have had a girl from there, but it was only after quite a bit of effort and numerous visits.
I think someone needs to put qualifiers on this post, firstly what he terms as top notch maybe be termed something quite more mundane by others, secondly whilst 2 mill is quite possible, expect 3-4 mill for the top girls at APO, finally overnight isn't quite overnight its more like 2-3 am till 6 am. Admittedly I haven't been to APO in like 6 years but in the times I have been I haven't been impressed esp with the prices. Go in APO expecting 2 mill ST and getting girls in the 6's /7's but MILFs and you will be more realistic.I've been to Saigon 3 x since January of 2015, most recently in October of 2015, and I stand by my information. Definitely tastes vary, but I have had great luck there not only with MILFs (and I love me a MILF), but also with young stunners. You're right about "overnight" being late night until early AM, but that's to be expected anywhere. I'm usually the one who ends up leaving as I do S / T hotels for my rendezvous (I stay myself at Western hotels where no overnight guests are allowed), but I've never had a girl look at her watch in the wee hours and say "Sorry honey, time to go!"
Hey you young whipper snapper, we still have ears that work, you know. You're darn tootin' we used to use the billiard bars, they were cheaper than Apo and they had more girls and cuter ones (and younger ones to be found). I haven't been in Apo for years, so for all I know you could be right about how it is now. I did take a gander at the remaining billiard bars and instantly decided to take them off the list of places to check out when making the rounds. They're basically replaced by the Bui Vien bars, but even those don't get the quality that HBT used to have.My first trip to Saigon was in, I think 2013 . Just at the end of that era I believe. There were still quite a few billiard bars right around the Sheraton, but I was a bit intimidated by them for whatever reason. When I finally wandered into one of the last remaining ones down the street from the Sheraton a couple years later, the pickins were slim. VERY slim. Maybe 3-4 unattractive girls and super high pressure for drinks.
I do wish I'd been a few years earlier to enjoy the heyday.
EternalDarknes
03-15-16, 21:50
Went to Apo yesterday by myself. This was first time I've been to a bar in Viet Nam. I got there at around 10:50 pm where things just got started.
Nice setting, no cover charge. Guards were nice and friendly.
Drinks were mostly 135 k dong (I had a few Corona). I also had some Coke and Coconut for 90 k each.
Music was nice, lots of males and ex-pat looking to get lucky. Some were rowdy so guard had to warm him a couple of times.
As for the ladies, a few MILF, around 20 girls. Most ranges around 5-7's. There were 2 I had my eyes on. One was around 7.25, around low 20's. Unfortunately, due to me being there my first time and being shy, I did know how to approach her so as I was thinking about it, someone else had taken her.
Went outside for a break then come back at around 1 am. There's still some girls left. Moved closer to DJ and saw a young girl that's 7.5. Cute face and nice smile. She was drinking really expensive drink and dancing with a friend. She was wearing heels but friend was not. Saw a few guys approach her but she ignored them. Asked guard that I tip earlier to see if she works and he told me yes. Got up courage to go up to talk to her but she just shake her head when I said Hi.
After that attempt, got discouraged and left at around 2:30 am.
Any thoughts from fellow experienced mongers? Any tips on approaching them or how should I go about it?
Thanks a lot for any advice given.
P.S. I'm Asian, in my late 20's, fit, better than average looking (told by others). Just want to find out what's wrong.
FishyFingers
03-16-16, 08:11
Eternal Darkness,
Don't be disheartened. The girl might be cautious you are an undercover or the waiter thinks all girls in Apo are working girls.
Try Vic bar at 55 Ho Xuan Hung. You may have to arrange to meet up with the girl after she finishes her shift and pay a bar fine.
If you have time to kill during the day, go to Cafe 018 - Address: 018 F Mạsee Thiêand Tích, P. 8, Q. 5,TP. Hồ Chí Minh.
Just sit and have a coffee and the girls will come sit with you.
Good luck.
Went to Apo yesterday by myself. This was first time I've been to a bar in Viet Nam. I got there at around 10:50 pm where things just got started.
Nice setting, no cover charge. Guards were nice and friendly.
Drinks were mostly 135 k dong (I had a few Corona). I also had some Coke and Coconut for 90 k each.
Music was nice, lots of males and ex-pat looking to get lucky. Some were rowdy so guard had to warm him a couple of times.
As for the ladies, a few MILF, around 20 girls. Most ranges around 5-7's. There were 2 I had my eyes on. One was around 7.25, around low 20's. Unfortunately, due to me being there my first time and being shy, I did know how to approach her so as I was thinking about it, someone else had taken her..
Went to Apo yesterday by myself. This was first time I've been to a bar in Viet Nam. I got there at around 10:50 pm where things just got started.
Nice setting, no cover charge. Guards were nice and friendly.
Drinks were mostly 135 k dong (I had a few Corona). I also had some Coke and Coconut for 90 k each.
Music was nice, lots of males and ex-pat looking to get lucky. Some were rowdy so guard had to warm him a couple of times.
As for the ladies, a few MILF, around 20 girls. Most ranges around 5-7's. There were 2 I had my eyes on. One was around 7.25, around low 20's. Unfortunately, due to me being there my first time and being shy, I did know how to approach her so as I was thinking about it, someone else had taken her.
Went outside for a break then come back at around 1 am. There's still some girls left. Moved closer to DJ and saw a young girl that's 7.5. Cute face and nice smile. She was drinking really expensive drink and dancing with a friend. She was wearing heels but friend was not. Saw a few guys approach her but she ignored them. Asked guard that I tip earlier to see if she works and he told me yes. Got up courage to go up to talk to her but she just shake her head when I said Hi.
After that attempt, got discouraged and left at around 2:30 am.
Any thoughts from fellow experienced mongers? Any tips on approaching them or how should I go about it?
Thanks a lot for any advice given.
P.S. I'm Asian, in my late 20's, fit, better than average looking (told by others). Just want to find out what's wrong.Avoid the girls near the DJ, particulary the group that has a big table just opposite the bar. There are definitely some lookers in that group, and they're all ostensibly all working, but I've rarely seen any of them leave with anyone. To be honest I've started to wonder why they're even there as it's the same 6-10 girls night after night, always with bottle or two of whisky, none of them ever leaving with a customer. They arrive in a group and if you stay long enough, you'll see they leave in a group.
Anyway. Here's my strategy: go for the outliers. Solo girls are the easiest/best choice IMO. I hang out at the bar, somewhere between the DJ and the walkway to the outside area halfway back. Look for girls you haven't seen every night - you may get lucky and meet a true part-timer there (though it's rare). But you will definitely meet girls wo are working and not just standing around drinking, like the other group. Also the girls who sit at the tables near the entrance are all working and all very available. You'll see the same group again and again, but if you watch closely they definitely do leave with customers.
Also Thursday, Friday and Saturday are far FAR more fertile than weeknights. If you're still in town this weekend, go back around 11 or 11:30, and plan to stay late. It doesn't pick up until around midnight in my experience.
EternalDarknes
03-16-16, 14:37
Avoid the girls near the DJ, particulary the group that has a big table just opposite the bar. There are definitely some lookers in that group, and they're all ostensibly all working, but I've rarely seen any of them leave with anyone. To be honest I've started to wonder why they're even there as it's the same 6-10 girls night after night, always with bottle or two of whisky, none of them ever leaving with a customer. They arrive in a group and if you stay long enough, you'll see they leave in a group.
Anyway. Here's my strategy: go for the outliers. Solo girls are the easiest/best choice IMO. I hang out at the bar, somewhere between the DJ and the walkway to the outside area halfway back. Look for girls you haven't seen every night - you may get lucky and meet a true part-timer there (though it's rare). But you will definitely meet girls wo are working and not just standing around drinking, like the other group. Also the girls who sit at the tables near the entrance are all working and all very available. You'll see the same group again and again, but if you watch closely they definitely do leave with customers.
Also Thursday, Friday and Saturday are far FAR more fertile than weeknights. If you're still in town this weekend, go back around 11 or 11:30, and plan to stay late. It doesn't pick up until around midnight in my experience.Thanks! May try again this Friday or Saturday night. Do you just approach them yourself or ask the helpers / guard to talk to the girls? If so, what do you say to them?
Thanks! May try again this Friday or Saturday night. Do you just approach them yourself or ask the helpers / guard to talk to the girls? If so, what do you say to them?Approach yourself! Just say Hi, offer to buy them a drink, ask if they're from Saigon, etc. Etc. . They know why you're there!
And if you strike out and it's 3 AM, head to Go2Bar. It's grungy and loud and crowded, but I've found it's almost impossible to leave there alone in the wee hours on weekend. Lots of the girls from Apocalypse who haven't found customers head there after Apocalypse closes. But I'm taking really wee hours - 3 AM and later. But if you're got no committments for the next day, it's worth a shot. I've met a couple great ladies there.
Hey guys,
Was wondering what bars and clubs are good during the week to pick up working girls. I think my hotel is girl friendly so I can just have them come back to my place. I can do freelance or even barfine these girls. I see a lot about weekend bars and clubs but nothing about the weekdays. Thanks.
You all do a great service here.
Keep it up!
MutantChicken
03-19-16, 06:37
Hey guys,
Was wondering what bars and clubs are good during the week to pick up working girls. I think my hotel is girl friendly so I can just have them come back to my place. I can do freelance or even barfine these girls. I see a lot about weekend bars and clubs but nothing about the weekdays. Thanks.
You all do a great service here.
Keep it up!Saigon is a 7 days a week kinda place, every bar is open everyday. The bars already mentioned are open everyday. The quality of the girls I cannot comment on.
AugustChrist
03-31-16, 05:56
Was at the ladies night at Lush this Tuesday and it was pretty good: solid 8's and 9's but super difficult to distinguish who is working and who is not.
I guess if one plays its cards right, it should not be difficult to pull out one of the cutes -keeping in mind the girls are all drinking free of charge and having a fun time.
Managed to spot a super sexy and classy MILF at the bar (she's 38) and she was indeed a FL!
She confirmed Lush hosts a lot of FL, specially during the weekends and she goes to the bar at New World Hotel as well. I think its name is Catwalk and as per her, it is very expensive: 500 K entrance, drinks at 300 K. Will try and report.
Had a very good vibe with her, drank, danced, never talked about money and went to my serviced apartment. I proposed her to stay 1 night more and gave her 300 USD total.
I think it is good value for money. Solid GFE, multiple pops, we went out drinking again yesterday on Bui Vien, grabbed some food and she's still in bed at present.
She pretends she never accepts going for lower than 150 USD per night and usually takes 200. She's making good money and has no necessity to work systematically.
Take care.
Cheers,
AC
MutantChicken
03-31-16, 17:29
Was at the ladies night at Lush this Tuesday and it was pretty good: solid 8's and 9's but super difficult to distinguish who is working and who is not.
I guess if one plays its cards right, it should not be difficult to pull out one of the cutes -keeping in mind the girls are all drinking free of charge and having a fun time.
Managed to spot a super sexy and classy MILF at the bar (she's 38) and she was indeed a FL!
She confirmed Lush hosts a lot of FL, specially during the weekends and she goes to the bar at New World Hotel as well. I think its name is Catwalk and as per her, it is very expensive: 500 K entrance, drinks at 300 K. Will try and report.
Had a very good vibe with her, drank, danced, never talked about money and went to my serviced apartment. I proposed her to stay 1 night more and gave her 300 USD total.Not sure how many of us would pay 150 usd overnight for a 38 yr old. Esp when you can get 18-24's for that price.
Not sure how many of us would pay 150 usd overnight for a 38 yr old. Esp when you can get 18-24's for that price.I would!
Some of us prefer MILFs! =P.
Good intel in the O. P. ; I've never been to Lush but will definitely check it out next time I'm in town.
AugustChrist
04-03-16, 06:53
Not sure how many of us would pay 150 usd overnight for a 38 yr old. Esp when you can get 18-24's for that price.I agree with MC. Nonetheless, for newbies to the city like me, and specially on a short visit, it already is a hassle to find a nice GF hotel in the right location.
And when we meet with a gem, we tend to think more of our standards in terms of value for money.
The experienced girls know it. And hunt only for this type of prey.
From where I come from, it would never have been possible for this price. I had a great 36 hours but I will not repeat now that I'm getting used to the scene.
And indeed, a good MILF from time to time makes my day.
AugustChrist
04-03-16, 07:35
Was on an early stroll around Pham Ngu Lao on Thursday and stopped at a bar to shoot a pool. It attracted my attention since a lot (approx. 15 girls), sexily dressed, were inside.
Played a few games with one of them and she explained the game: lady drinks at 90 K with the usual touching blabla. And the girls can't leave before midnight. She confirmed they all are available for take out!
Since it was still early (10 pm), I decided to grab some food, a few more beers and head back to my hotel for a shower. Was a little drunk, started sleeping but the PM from LukeSkywalker aroused me (thanks mate: great info here -I will report soon).
Headed back to the same bar at 1 am finally: more girls were there: most of them very pretty (from 5 to 8 easy and some 9's I'd say but YMMV) and some very gems: at least 5 of them were 18-20 years' old! Also, the only customers there were Japanese and Koreans.
But beware: my girl later showed me those who are 18 now but started in this bar as young as 16. I thus conclude some of them are not even 18.
She was super happy to see me back and I started offering her drinks and chit chatted a bit. The more time went by, the more I was into her: she was asking the bartender to add more JD to her drinks and she was getting very horny I felt. We left around 4 am (bar bill was 1 M) and man, she was a real nymphomaniac!
Had a super time with her, and after two shots, around 6 30, we went to grab some food and the bar was still open with 2 or 3 girls left. We had a coffee with Baileys, and headed back to my serviced apartment which was walking distance. Had some sleep and spent the early afternoon shagging. She was awesome: you just have to touch her for 5 seconds and she starts dripping. Great time indeed here. We decided to make a move around 5 pm and I gave her 2 M. She was just OK with it but precised she takes 2 M for ST.
She as well confirmed all the girls are available for take out: either they are comfortable with you and will lower their guard or if you put the price, they definitely will go.
I understand location should not be mentioned here and I will thus refrain from precising it. My trip to Saigon is turning out to be super good.
Have fun and stay safe.
Cheers,
AC
MutantChicken
04-04-16, 07:23
I'd love to see what you would consider is a 9 (1 less from perfection). Likewise the girl you ultimately took, which was she a 5-9 that you mentioned was available.
LukeSkywalker
04-08-16, 23:45
In Vietnam, girls who go past 30 know they are spoiled goods, having no prospect of getting married. Even the attractive, educated, good earners face the prospects of spending the rest of their singles' lives in loneliness.
Outside of bars and the tourists' areas, you may find many attractive single women in their 30's and 40's wanting relationship but may be shy with foreigners. You just have to take the initiatives, showing them the gentle, caring, sensitive sides of your personality. You may end up with lots of bed partners.
I was in Cafe Dalat Pho on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai with a local friend. It's a huge, dark but cool, nice, clean quiet, classy cafe near dis 1. He motioned to me a couple tables each with 5 to 6 single women just sitting around, not talking, like they were waiting for someone. They were desperate single women in their 30's, 40's, waiting for guys to come over to make friends. My friend told me I can quickly hook one and go, but they were chunkier than I like. If the women don't have nice, tight, hard bodies with smooth skin, I would not be interest in sex or anything else with them.
But guys who like MILFs should be in hogs' heaven with all these sex-starved women. A few years back I was dating a very conservative good virginal girl in her mid 20's, so I was respectful and took it slow with her. We were making out on the couch when I finally got my hand into her crotch. Her pussy had swollen up and was oozing with warm, sticky fluid, like dipping the hand into a jar of warm honey. She was so horny she wanted to fuck all along.
I went to a few parties with local friends. An attractive divorcee in her 30's was staring at me with her big eyes all night, making it obvious that she wanted me to pick her up, like she was sex-starved, ready to devour me in bed. I was embarrassed. Hehe.
I need help to decide my holiday.
Either Jakarta or Hoh Chi Mihn Saigon?
I love me a MILF too but when I was there in 2007 taking a side trip from Thailand (where I spent all my money LOL) I had no clue.
Viets look pretty stunning.
Where are the good places for MILF if they not all over the place thanks any info and what prices are ladies and girls usually?
AmericanThief
04-09-16, 12:48
My trip to Saigon is turning out to be super good.
Cheers,
ACAC, What was the damage or can you itemized all the costs for us.
Cheer,
AT.
Wander Luster
04-10-16, 12:47
Was on an early stroll around Pham Ngu Lao on Thursday and stopped at a bar to shoot a pool. It attracted my attention since a lot (approx. 15 girls), sexily dressed, were inside.
Played a few games with one of them and she explained the game: lady drinks at 90 K with the usual touching blabla. And the girls can't leave before midnight. She confirmed they all are available for take out!
Since it was still early (10 pm), I decided to grab some food, a few more beers and head back to my hotel for a shower. Was a little drunk, started sleeping but the PM from LukeSkywalker aroused me (thanks mate: great info here -I will report soon).
Headed back to the same bar at 1 am finally: more girls were there: most of them very pretty (from 5 to 8 easy and some 9's I'd say but YMMV) and some very gems: at least 5 of them were 18-20 years' old! Also, the only customers there were Japanese and Koreans.
ACAC,
There are a ton of hostess bars in District 1. I've been here for over a month for work and play. I've not bothered trying to find a place like you did. I guess best wold be to share some info of "value with others on here. All I have is girls from Skype who are less traditional.
Anyway, are you or anyone else using any "method" to weed out hostess vs. Take out? I'd guess many of the hostess bars have girls available for take-out, but only above 150 USD rates?
How do you identify those where girls are P2 P vs. Only if they are offered some ridiculous price like 150 USD? Did you just get "lucky" finding that place or did you go to several and ask after talking?
Thanks.
Not sure how many of us would pay 150 usd overnight for a 38 yr old. Esp when you can get 18-24's for that price.Not sure who would pay you $100 USD for your pimping guide services. Especially when all the same information is already out there for free.
In Vietnam, girls who go past 30 know they are spoiled goods, having no prospect of getting married. Even the attractive, educated, good earners face the prospects of spending the rest of their singles' lives in loneliness.
Outside of bars and the tourists' areas, you may find many attractive single women in their 30's and 40's wanting relationship but may be shy with foreigners. You just have to take the initiatives, showing them the gentle, caring, sensitive sides of your personality. You may end up with lots of bed partners.
I was in Cafe Dalat Pho on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai with a local friend. It's a huge, dark but cool, nice, clean quiet, classy cafe near dis 1. He motioned to me a couple tables each with 5 to 6 single women just sitting around, not talking, like they were waiting for someone. They were desperate single women in their 30's, 40's, waiting for guys to come over to make friends. My friend told me I can quickly hook one and go, but they were chunkier than I like. If the women don't have nice, tight, hard bodies with smooth skin, I would not be interest in sex or anything else with them.
But guys who like MILFs should be in hogs' heaven with all these sex-starved women. A few years back I was dating a very conservative good virginal girl in her mid 20's, so I was respectful and took it slow with her. We were making out on the couch when I finally got my hand into her crotch. Her pussy had swollen up and was oozing with warm, sticky fluid, like dipping the hand into a jar of warm honey. She was so horny she wanted to fuck all along.
I went to a few parties with local friends. An attractive divorcee in her 30's was staring at me with her big eyes all night, making it obvious that she wanted me to pick her up, like she was sex-starved, ready to devour me in bed. I was embarrassed. Hehe.Thanks for the info. I am a married guy in HCMC looking for MILFs, not so picky being 50 myself, and I know that cafe but have not been. I have tried hanging out in other random cafes but just need to be a bit more, er, pro-active.
Thanks for the info. I am a married guy in HCMC looking for MILFs, not so picky being 50 myself, and I know that cafe but have not been. I have tried hanging out in other random cafes but just need to be a bit more, er, pro-active.A guy I know from overseas got on some dating sites (apps work too) and set up lots of meetings for when he came here, and he's been seeing one after another the past week and a half. Actually now he's in Nhatrang to meet 2 more up there. He's had pretty good success closing the deals too. Not 100% but good enough he has no complaints. I'll try to find out what he used.
A guy I know from overseas got on some dating sites (apps work too) and set up lots of meetings for when he came here, and he's been seeing one after another the past week and a half. Actually now he's in Nhatrang to meet 2 more up there. He's had pretty good success closing the deals too. Not 100% but good enough he has no complaints. I'll try to find out what he used.Thanks! The problem with sites and apps is they want pics and FB connections, which is too risky being married. I have gotten some interest on Viet Cup with no pics and stating that I am married but have not bought an upgraded membership there. I tried with Badoo with a fake photo and got some nibbles and one lady who seemed to offering P2P but she seemed a bit nutty.
I have a 35 ish Apo. Lady who is really great as far as understanding my situation, but I always think I can find more like her. Any tips are greatly appreciated!
Thanks! The problem with sites and apps is they want pics and FB connections, which is too risky being married. I have gotten some interest on Viet Cup with no pics and stating that I am married but have not bought an upgraded membership there. I tried with Badoo with a fake photo and got some nibbles and one lady who seemed to offering P2P but she seemed a bit nutty.
I have a 35 ish Apo. Lady who is really great as far as understanding my situation, but I always think I can find more like her. Any tips are greatly appreciated!Another risk with these apps is that if you allow Location Services so you can search for People Nearby, then YOU appear to everyone in the area, including your wife. Or her friends. Or her family.
But actually you can opt to keep those off.
But on Wechat, I made my profile totally fictional. I used to use Brad Pitt as my photo.
Hey guys,
Wondering if any of you have had any luck at these hostess-style bars in D1, such as The Office, Emergency Room, the Navy, etc. I have wandered into many more in that same area, never quite knowing what to expect. Never had a girl ask me to take her home from one, but have seen others leave with some.
Captain Solo
07-14-16, 18:24
The US Ambassador in Hanoi and the Consul General in HCMC get lots of invitations to local parties, social and cultural events. They normally send their staffs in their places, depending on the hosts and the importance.
I have met a few very beautiful, classy and well educated, English-speaking young single women in these events. Due to their conservative and restrictive culture, some of these women remain virgins well into their mid 30's. The US staffs can socialize with locals to certain degrees, but they are kept under a lot of pressure and scrutiny to protect against espionage, corruption, blackmails etc. That's where Joe blow Mongers may be able to grab good opportunities.
If you know how to work with Mr. Ambassador or Ms Consul General, you can be put on invitation lists for countless events. Being affiliated with the US Embassy you will be treated like sexy, young princes. Hehe.
Don't tell me I never gave you guys any good tips.
Irish Mongrel
07-14-16, 23:00
Hey guys,
Wondering if any of you have had any luck at these hostess-style bars in D1, such as The Office, Emergency Room, the Navy, etc. I have wandered into many more in that same area, never quite knowing what to expect. Never had a girl ask me to take her home from one, but have seen others leave with some.The girls in these bars tend to be looking for boyfriends / sponsors, if they're not already married or dating a local. The ones you see walking out with expats are probably with their boyfriend. The only time I have had any luck with any of the girls has been with hard "honest" work, just like chasing after a girlfriend and have had more knock-backs than successes. Some actually get very pissed of if you think they're a hooker. Was more the challenge than anything else, and would probably have been easier if I was living there instead of visiting now and again. There are some good looking girls in these bars, especially The Office. They're all run by a group of Vietnamese ladies, all of them very datable, but not cheap to take out on that date. High end restaurants and nightclubs! There is sure to be the odd one that may want to supplement their wages and as I said, it may be easier if you're living there, as they would see you as a possible boyfriend candidate, but you may be just better sticking to Lush, Apo, Go2 etc. And enjoy what's available out of there.
Please don't yell at me for asking questions. I've contributed before but now I need help. I've done most things but one that I haven't done is to visit a KTV because I'm always alone. But I saw some videos of rooms of naked girls singing and dancing naked in a private room with a couch (imagine how dirty it would be) and sucking and fking. Its always a bit difficult trying something for the first time. But can anyone tell me if this exists in Saigon and what's the process. Do I just walk in with no language skills and choose a girl and will they all be naked etc in my little private room.
Member #4667
07-21-16, 11:23
Please don't yell at me for asking questions. I've contributed before but now I need help. I've done most things but one that I haven't done is to visit a KTV because I'm always alone. But I saw some videos of rooms of naked girls singing and dancing naked in a private room with a couch (imagine how dirty it would be) and sucking and fking. Its always a bit difficult trying something for the first time. But can anyone tell me if this exists in Saigon and what's the process. Do I just walk in with no language skills and choose a girl and will they all be naked etc in my little private room.Yes it kind of exists with this caveat. Firstly the naked dancing its possible if you are a first timer at a KTV though its more likely if you go with someone who has been at the KTV before. Secondly the prettiest gals won't do that kind of thing, its usually the older plainer gals who do that to earn extra tips, the normal tip at these local places are about 300 k, when you requests these gals get naked to dance its about 500 k per song.
In the past it may have been possible to engage in sexual activities in the room, but now this is a rare situation unless you quite friendly with the mommy, again this will be organised based on large tips, EG 1 mill for a BJ, whereas if you take her home LT it might only cost 2 mill.
As to your final question, no its unlikely you can find or even organize such a thing with no language skills and no contacts.
As to your final question, no its unlikely you can find or even organize such a thing with no language skills and no contacts.Is this what happens in KTVs in other countries. They are popular with the Chinese and all the naked girls videos online seem to feature chinese guests and girls. Is there a particular Asian country I should be going to to get this.
MutantChicken
07-22-16, 07:43
Is this what happens in KTVs in other countries. They are popular with the Chinese and all the naked girls videos online seem to feature chinese guests and girls. Is there a particular Asian country I should be going to to get this.I have only been to KTV in Cambodia, Philippines and Vietnamese. The wildest one I been to with me licking her pussy was Philippines.
Irish Mongrel
07-22-16, 08:10
Is this what happens in KTVs in other countries. They are popular with the Chinese and all the naked girls videos online seem to feature chinese guests and girls. Is there a particular Asian country I should be going to to get this.Alexis Hotel in Jakarta. Been to the Karaoke there a few times and it's basically anything goes. The rooms with the hot tub off to the side are really good. Only problem. It's not cheap, but I wasn't paying so not my problem. Tended to be my agent, a mate of his and 2 or 3 of my work colleagues. Add in two or three girls each, a shit load of alcohol and a few bar games and it all heads south very quickly. You can take the girls to one of the rooms in the hotel for a quickie, or even better, take them back to your hotel. It just depends how deep your pockets are.
I have only been to KTV in Cambodia, Philippines and Vietnamese. The wildest one I been to with me licking her pussy was Philippines.Mutant, what happened in the KTV in Vn and Cambodia when you did it. Did you get a private room with naked dancing girls. Do you get to touch them etc. And does this place still exist.
YellowPaul
07-23-16, 04:16
Mutant, what happened in the KTV in Vn and Cambodia when you did it. Did you get a private room with naked dancing girls. Do you get to touch them etc. And does this place still exist.I did not try KTV in Vietnam but in Siem Reap I paid for taxi to take me to a local KTV 2 nights. I paid $70 US for a over night back to my hotel from a decent selection of 30 girls in both places. This price may be expensive for Cambodia but OK for Vietnam I think as there I was content with the freebies from Badoo but of course less quality then the young KTV girls.
I did not try KTV in Vietnam but in Siem Reap I paid for taxi to take me to a local KTV 2 nights. I paid $70 US for a over night back to my hotel from a decent selection of 30 girls in both places. This price may be expensive for Cambodia but OK for Vietnam I think as there I was content with the freebies from Badoo but of course less quality then the young KTV girls.Yellow, I went to the KTV in Siem Reap and had a small line up or two but the girls were average because I got there too early. As I was leaving better ones were arriving. But do you know if we can stay in the room with the couch where they do the lineup. It had a tv in the one I went to. Is it possible to stay in that room with 2 girls and get them to dance naked and stuff. I want something a bit more fun than just sex on a hotel bed or watching them in a strip club.
The girls in these bars tend to be looking for boyfriends / sponsors, if they're not already married or dating a local. The ones you see walking out with expats are probably with their boyfriend. The only time I have had any luck with any of the girls has been with hard "honest" work, just like chasing after a girlfriend and have had more knock-backs than successes. Some actually get very pissed of if you think they're a hooker. Was more the challenge than anything else, and would probably have been easier if I was living there instead of visiting now and again. There are some good looking girls in these bars, especially The Office. They're all run by a group of Vietnamese ladies, all of them very datable, but not cheap to take out on that date. High end restaurants and nightclubs! There is sure to be the odd one that may want to supplement their wages and as I said, it may be easier if you're living there, as they would see you as a possible boyfriend candidate, but you may be just better sticking to Lush, Apo, Go2 etc. And enjoy what's available out of there.My comments on the general thread:
I don't hang out that regular, much more before, but there are all kinds of girls working and there are occasional ladies out before going to Apo or friends of waitresses but in general, it is a project in most cases although there are full-on workers in some bars. I don't really care about buying them drinks to have a semi-grope but a lot of Asian guys seem happy with that.
I will confess that I was dragged home one night by a 22 or 23-yr old single mother working a lower Pasteur street bar who I thought was going to charge me but when I came up short in cash for the hotel, she payed the difference. She was a bit exceptional in that she was a young actress just working in a bar to improve her English. She ended up breaking it off in deference to my wife.
Another: About a year ago I met a 30-yr. Old divorcee who has a small English school and was also working just to improve her English but could barely put up with the job- she never let guys buy her drinks or whatever- and went through three bars pretty quickly. The first bar I met her at, she started asking me if I was there to take a woman home, because some them will do that, she said. But I never got details LOL. We ended up becoming friendly and I would see her at the bar to hear about her BF troubles. She is definitely hunting a foreign husband and had some Aussie guy on the line but broke up recently. For some reason I am her "type" and she would go for me if I wasn't married, so she has no problem in going out with me occasionally. Of course I wonder in the back of my mind if she will sometime decide, "eh, may as well have sex with him" but she seems a bit too tightly wound (doesn't drink). She knows that I am not so happy in my marriage and that I have cheated before, so maybe I can at least get her to introduce me to a more "open" friend.
But, yeah, things are not straight-forward at all and the main job is to get and keep guys drinking in the bar. Maybe there are more girls willing to do P4P at say Kims but I have found them to always be pushing for drinks and then drinks for friends and then a padded bill, so I stick more to places where it is a bit more casual or there are ladies I know that I am fine buying a few drinks for. It seems that BV and and Do Quang Dau bars are the most easy bars for take-away now aren't they? Not straight-up barfine but definitely discussed fairly openly it seems. But to me, that area is just bad news and P2P there is full of addicts, diseases and ripoffs.
Just to add that those bars are opening up like crazy because waitresses see how much the boss lady pulls in.
Hey brothers,
Can anyone confirm if we can find Uzbek girls in ho chi Minh clubs like a lot of Thai clubs.
I'm happy to report that the scene at Apocolypse Now is alive and well. I know the old-timers / regulars on the HCMC forums aren't fans, but for occasional travellers it's a great venue. Prices are still 2 MM (although of course some girls ask for more. Maybe 3 MM or 100 USD, but none of a half dozen balked at my counter-offer of 2 MM). There are some real beauties (IMO), and I do like the vibe there. Check it out if you happen to be in town and looking for company, it's definitely worth a visit if you like the WG bar scene.
My comments on the general thread:
Maybe there are more girls willing to do P4P at say Kims but I have found them to always be pushing for drinks and then drinks for friends and then a padded bill, so I stick more to places where it is a bit more casual or there are ladies I know that I am fine buying a few drinks for. Unfortunately the trend of girls pushing for drinks is on the up. And some of the bar owners def encourage this and also they usually pad the bill. Here's a list of bars that fall into that category. Kims Tavern, Voodoo, Retro Bar, The Office, Tequila, Fox, Xu XU's, Cloud 9, Rumour's, Kiss. And some of the lady drink prices are just a joke. 140,000 for half shot of Jack coke is just laughable! My advice, buy a bottle and let your girl drink from that, far cheaper!
I arrived in HCMC on a Friday evening on the eve of Halloween, went through that horrendous evening rush hour traffic from the airport to town, and got to my hotel around 8 pm. My 2 wingman were waiting for me at Harmony Saigon hotel. Armed with my ISG RTFF summary, and some intel from my buddies, we hit the road running.
Alas, disappointment quickly set in. It was first time mongering in HCMC for all 3 of us. One of the wingman, thought he had the better intel, so the order of the day became: follow the leader. His intel said to go to Number 5 bar, on Pasteur St. We arrived there and quickly realized this was a hostess bar. Although the girls looked stunning to these horny mongers, they turned us down one by one. Finally, the lady owner / manager, feeling sorry for us, suggested we visit these other bars not too far. They had names like Rock Hard and Jungle Bar. We decided to grab a bite first at this restaurant next door, owned and operated by an expat from the US. He confirmed that's where the action was. Unfortunately, we soon found out it was not the case at all.
By now, my buddy's intel was exhausted, so here comes the ISG RTFF to the rescue. It was about 11 pm, perfect for Apocalypse. Thank God the taxis are dirt cheap in HCMC, and I found out later that Uber works fine there and is even cheaper. We got there and the place was empty. However, soon the crowd started showing up. By this time, it was almost bed time for these old farts, as we were tired from the travel. However, we did see the potential for Apocalypse, but it was also Halloween weekend and the large crowd was rather on the younger side.
The next day, it was time for another approach. I am a big sucker for eye candy, hence I tend to gravitate towards high end places. One of my wingman and I decided to try little Tokyo, in particular Tokyo SPA. Having read so many good things about this place. One of the report on ISG said that the girls are eye candy, the service superior, but that it was costly. Our assessment was that only the last statement was true, for the time we were there. The 3 girls we saw around 4 pm were rather GND, and the service was rather inferior, IMO. My girl could not blow shit, and I could perform a better HJ than her.
By now, it was desperation time, and I decided to reach out to fellow monger, MutantChicken. Unfortunately, our schedules did not align very well, and by the time he responded to my plea for help, I had resolved my biggest issue, where to find FS. For me, BJ and HJ just don't do it. I need the poon, and we finally found it in BV land. Now, we were content and I wished that we had picked a hotel in that area. Not a problem, as soon as my initial reservation, at Harmony Saigon, ran out, I moved there. My wingmen decided to stay put at HS.
This was Halloween weekend and BV was hopping all 3 nights, Saturday through Monday night. The street was so crowded and jammed that we could not walk anywhere. Everything stopped, it was crazy. Thank God there was not a stampede, as there were families with grandpas, grandmas, and young children. In the meantime, we camped at our drinking fountain. There were a couple of bars with enough FLs to satisfy 3 pussy-hungry amigos. Granted, it was expensive for a quickie at 2 M a session plus drinks / barfine, but better than nothing.
Some of us did also enjoy getting a daily massage from those young, beautiful Viet girls, a legit massage but nonetheless, quite erotic.
One night, we had dinner at this Vietnamese restaurant at a BV cross street. Towards the end, a fast talking young Viet teenager brought 3 of their servers at our table and started the negotiations. Never mind that this restaurant had only 3 female servers that night. In trying to decipher his offer, we concluded that he wanted 2 M barfine and 2. 5 M per session, for each girl. We started laughing, then he changed his story and offered the girls for 1 M each, but only for 10 min. We paid our dinner bill, the bill for the girls drink and left empty handed.
A few observations:
It appears that the Vietnamese society is fairly conservative, and as a result mongering activities seem to require quite a bit of discretion. That was quite a surprise to us, being used to Thailand. As a result, we could see FLs walking on the street but we could not approach them easily or they simply ignored us. Language was definitely a big handicap, despite my shitty iPhone translation apps. Also, there was a clear bias against older mongers. Working girls were happy to help us spend our money, and they were trying to overcharge us for everything but some of them did not appear willing to deliver. Local folks were trying to scam us everywhere, girls and men alike, so we were on our guards the whole time. In conclusion, not sure we will be coming this way in the near future, even though I had a good time myself.
Wander Luster
11-12-16, 14:50
I'm happy to report that the scene at Apocolypse Now is alive and well. I know the old-timers / regulars on the HCMC forums aren't fans, but for occasional travellers it's a great venue. Prices are still 2 MM (although of course some girls ask for more. Maybe 3 MM or 100 USD, but none of a half dozen balked at my counter-offer of 2 MM). There are some real beauties (IMO), and I do like the vibe there. Check it out if you happen to be in town and looking for company, it's definitely worth a visit if you like the WG bar scene.For comparison, the P2 P freelancer pick-up bars in Manila have girls 1/2 the looks or worse. Prices there are less. May of the girls at Apocolypse have not so great attitudes, especially when you consider Vietnamese are generally the most friendly people (no shallow nice) people you could meet.
Wander Luster
11-12-16, 15:07
I've been here about 4 months this year. I think many are confused by the hostess bars. As I am to a small extent.
Some locals tell me all the girls are available to take out. Others on here say not so. I do think it's a bit about age. They may say no if you're more than 30 years older than them, for example. Or if you have a bad attitude. It's there discretion. They are not paid anything from the bars!
It is the Asian guys that drive the prices up here. There is something in the Asian cultures where they don't want to pay little to bring a girl out, as they means. Well go figure.
But, the number of "working girls" in District 1 is actually astounding. I think 90% of them go with foreigner vietnamese and other Asians. Westerners like me just don't "get" this hostess idea.
My one good experience after blowing a little bar-girl drink money was someone I met who was one of the best performers ever in bed. Absolute GF experience, and a 9 for a body. In part maybe because we hit it off explains the performance.
First time was $30 to bar and $100 to her. Next time was about $100. We were together for about 4-5 hours each time and she stayed wet longer than almost anyone I've been with of 50+ girls (I can hold off for hours).
Girls down by the back-packer street are "good to go" and maybe cheaper. Some of them may be more accustomed to western guys. There are plenty of serious lookers there. I almost took one last weekend.
BUT, I don't know what their performance is like. Also, these bars pay them nothing! Although somehow they are in fact "accountable" to the bars. Yes, the bar-girl drink thing there is ridiculous too expensive.
I have no idea what prices are like in PP or Bangkok or Manila right now. But, seems to me in Manila it would also be $100 and I think the girl would not be nearly as cute.
Also, the girl I went me told me most girls get just one bar-fine a week. So, you're not shagging someone that's doing it with a new guy every night. I'm quite sure she was not BS about that.
If you live here and are 30-50, feel free to ping me if you want to try to pick up some that are semi or no-pro. I'd rather not meet up with travelers, as it's just too damn hard to figure this place out until you've been here for 1+ month! Or, if you live in PP or Bangkok and have some great intel to trade if I visit there, ok, PM me.
Cheers,
Wander Luster.
I think many are confused by the hostess bars…Some locals tell me all the girls are available to take out...I certainly was and I experienced the same thing in PP last year. MY wingman, who was blonde and decent looking, hooked up with one cutie, but at the end he ended paying for quite a few drinks and got nothing for it. After 2 evening trying, I told him he is on his own. I was not willing to pay for drinks so that he can get laid. The girls I got did not show much inclination to go home with me, and honestly I was not interested in them either.
...Girls down by the back-packer street are "good to go" and maybe cheaper. Some of them may be more accustomed to western guys. There are plenty of serious lookers there...Yes, I was there last week and I had a good time in BV land. Met a few cuties and had the best of times.
...I have no idea what prices are like in PP or Bangkok or Manila right now. But, seems to me in Manila it would also be $100 and I think the girl would not be nearly as cute…I think prices are similar to HCMC for top tier, although I felt they were a bit higher in HCMC. Also, in PP, BKK, or the PI, you have choices as to how much you want to pay. I did not get the feeling that I had too many choices in HCMC. It was 2 M almost everywhere for me. It was also my first time there, and that may explain some of the prices I got.
I certainly was and I experienced the same thing in PP last year. MY wingman, who was blonde and decent looking, hooked up with one cutie, but at the end he ended paying for quite a few drinks and got nothing for it. After 2 evening trying, I told him he is on his own. I was not willing to pay for drinks so that he can get laid. The girls I got did not show much inclination to go home with me, and honestly I was not interested in them either.
Yes, I was there last week and I had a good time in BV land. Met a few cuties and had the best of times.I think there is some confusion between the hostess bars in "Lower Pasteur", near Bitexco and those in BV. Lower Pasteur bars definitely do not have bar fines as far as I know because they would lose all their staff right after happy hour. I think the sleaziest might be the ones grouped together on Pasteur near the new shopping center as they seem to be "buy a drink for a grope" type situations but still don't think any of them do bar fines. Correct me if I am wrong.
BV though. I assume they are? I realize it is easy and plentiful in BV but it has too many hazards and ripoffs. Be careful if you are mongering there.
I went to Chill twice during my stay in Vietnam as part of a small group each time and I can say that 1) yes there are WGs there and 2) they are a minority of the population, maybe only 10-20% of the women at the club. This place is a very fun, high end club. But it does seem to start and stop relatively early, peak times seem to be between 10 and 12. Both times we stayed till about 1, even though on Friday night, the place is open until 4.
This place was ALL men at 10:30 Wednesday night except for the bar staff. The WGs didn't start coming in until a little after 11 and mainly after midnight. I came in to the club with a girl and I had to hold her close to me so no one would bother her! This is while I and my girl were trying to be wingman for another friend, he was able to finally hook up with a very nice girl for $200 USD.
AmericanThief
11-20-16, 08:28
he was able to finally hook up with a very nice girl for $200 USD.Fuck this shit.
MutantChicken
11-20-16, 08:37
Fuck this shit.Right on, I hook up with 19-20 yr olds that are 8-9's 1 shot under 500 k ie 25 sud, if I want overnight its 1. 5 mill-2 mi ie 10 pm till morning.
NguyetLang
11-20-16, 20:48
Right on, I hook up with 19-20 yr olds that are 8-9's 1 shot under 500 k ie 25 sud, if I want overnight its 1. 5 mill-2 mi ie 10 pm till morning.Agree with this. Our fellow mongers. The overnight rate is about 1. 5 M to 2 M. Please do not let that become overinflated.
The market rate for ST is still 300 k-500 k, rarely go above that for exceptional model type (6-800 k for some "gai goi cao cap" or "luxury" models).
Check out thiendia.com and kynu.net for market research. (fluency in Vietnamese or handy with google translate to take full advantage of the sites).
Enjoy Vietnam.
Yes, I know he overpaid. And I told him. But he didn't want to negotiate or have me negotiate for him, since he was in HCMC only for 2 nights. And it was LT until noon the next day.
LukeSkywalker
11-21-16, 01:20
It's my experience, hookers and their pimps in Vietnam go all out to gouge foreigners mercilessly.
Bar and Wechat girls all want 1.2 Mil Vnd for ST after buying them many Saigon teas. I jokingly offered 600 K to a Wechat girl with very good-looking pics, lo and behold, she quickly accepted. She was from the provinces, sitting around a pussy bar all night for weeks without doing any business, had no idea how to get to my hotel. I told her to take a moto om.
She showed up looking significantly heavier and less attractive than her Wechat pics. I was losing interests, but 600 K was only $30 and It was so late. Then she took off her clothes showing her shriveled droopy boobs and flabby folds of fat on her tummy. I was disgusted so just closed my eyes and got it over with. She did the same quick sex routine all Dist 1 girls do: CBJ, CG, roll over into Missionary without interrupting the insertion, buck her butt to get me off quickly. It was one of the worst, most callous sex experience in my life anywhere in the world.
Bar and Wechat girls in district 1 are some of the most cunning, ruthless, callous and mercenary creatures, the shame of Viet people.
I searched KYNU.NET and THIENDIA.COM and found many good-looking girls in dist 10 with sweet, sexy, caring attitudes. They do 400 K to 600 K ST to locals. Had some very good sessions with them. Gave their phone numbers and rates to a few bros. The bros should try to find young Uber drivers who can arrange sessions with these girls.
AmericanThief
11-21-16, 08:52
Agree with this. Our fellow mongers. The overnight rate is about 1. 5 M to 2 M. Please do not let that become overinflated.
The market rate for ST is still 300 k-500 k, rarely go above that for exceptional model type (6-800 k for some "gai goi cao cap" or "luxury" models).
Check out thiendia.com and kynu.net for market research. (fluency in Vietnamese or handy with google translate to take full advantage of the sites).
Enjoy Vietnam.I've tried those sites, and the girl that arrived was different from the girl in the ad. I contacted a white skinned girl and a black girl showed up.
Do you have any advice on how to make sure I get a luxury model? I'm willing to go 6-800,00 dong if she is white, young with nice boobs and not covered with tattoos.
NguyetLang
11-21-16, 19:41
I've tried those sites, and the girl that arrived was different from the girl in the ad. I contacted a white skinned girl and a black girl showed up.
Do you have any advice on how to make sure I get a luxury model? I'm willing to go 6-800,00 dong if she is white, young with nice boobs and not covered with tattoos.No thing magic, just lots of readings through the comments, it you don't speak the language, I imagine it could be tidious with google translate.
Some girl have the green label "Da kiem dinh" means "have been checked" . That means more than one fellow mongers have verified the merchandise is as advertised. These are very few, but if you see one, chances are likely that she is good. Example of green label below, caveat: I have not checked this lady, so take it FWIW.
http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/gai-goi-quan-10-ngo-dong-ms-8570-gai-mien-tay-ma-lum-dong-tien-de-thuong.1035635/
In general I have more success with thiendia.com. It appears that website has more mongers participation than papasan participation, the comments / feedback seem more genuine and more truthful.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Peter.
It's my experience, hookers and their pimps in Vietnam go all out to gouge foreigners mercilessly.
Bar and Wechat girls all want 1.2 Mil Vnd for ST after buying them many Saigon teas. I jokingly offered 600 K to a Wechat girl with very good-looking pics, lo and behold, she quickly accepted. She was from the provinces, sitting around a pussy bar all night for weeks without doing any business, had no idea how to get to my hotel. I told her to take a moto om.
She showed up looking significantly heavier and less attractive than her Wechat pics. I was losing interests, but 600 K was only $30 and It was so late. Then she took off her clothes showing her shriveled droopy boobs and flabby folds of fat on her tummy. I was disgusted so just closed my eyes and got it over with. She did the same quick sex routine all Dist 1 girls do: CBJ, CG, roll over into Missionary without interrupting the insertion, buck her butt to get me off quickly..I was going to drop a WeChat comment so may was well do it here. I finally got it so my email didn't show up in my profile page so I checked it out. It seems the range was further before. But it is 50% or more massage girls, isn't it? I am always looking for over 30 and found a possible independent operator who said 2 hours for 100 USD. She looked way cute in her photos, but yeah, it is hard to trust that type of action, for me anyhow, and won't I see her at Apo some time?
I'm interested in the Viet sites but I am really only interested in over 30 for some reason. So much, I grabbed a chubby cutey from a BV bar in the middle of the day. Afternoon Delight Thai style methinks. She was 35 and seemed sweet enough but was all business in the room. Quite good too but she just wanted me to cum so I did what I could and split quick.
SO is back in town soon, so I will have to go undercover but let me know if you uncover any decent over 30's (maybe I should drop it to 25?) that need a part-time "Sugar Daddy".
LukeSkywalker
11-22-16, 18:02
To be clear, I don't live in Vietnam so my knowledge is that of a tourist, not a local.
However, I went out with a local and we hit Cafe Dalat Pho on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai, a couple blocks from the Bui Vien area. It's a huge air-con cafe, quiet, leafy, where families would gather.
The local guy told me about a dozen mid 30's women, sitting at 2 tables, were hanging out, not talking, waiting for guys to hit on them for friendship, date or sex for the night. They look old in their 30's, flabby and desperate to my taste, so I did not bother.
You just have to mosey over, smile and introduce yourself, talk to all of them, get their phone numbers and pick them up one by one for dates. Locals usually go to movies where they make out in the dark, get horny then rent cheap hotels by the hours for sex.
SO is back in town soon, so I will have to go undercover but let me know if you uncover any decent over 30's (maybe I should drop it to 25?) that need a part-time "Sugar Daddy".
- Things have changed tremendously since the 1992. Bui Vien is packed with backpackers and locals. There are many more massage places, with girls harassing you for "massa". Didn't check it out. People on this board are writing that in some places, you can get a HJ (maybe more) for very high prices. No thanks.
- One difference from last year is that there were many guys on bicycles, offering you "massa, boom boom, young girl". Some of the guys don't look like the normal massage guys. I may know one reason. Previously, those touts were on moto-bikes offering to take you to a short time hotel where the girls were at. Now, at least one of the short time hotels might be very close. There is a tout in front of the Huynh Ah or Hy An? Guesthouse (on Do Quang Dau - this is the street parallel to De Tham connecting Bui Bien and Pham Ngu Lao) offering girls. He says, "boom boom, young girl, 1 hour, $70". I didn't check it out.
- I was walking back to Bui Vien, and another tout on a bicycle asked, "massa, boom boom". I pointed to that guesthouse and asked, "over there". He nodded yes. I said, "$70 - too expensive! Then he pointed away from the backpacker scene, and said, "$35, 2 minute walk, boom boom, young girl". I didn't check it out.
- A previous post indicated that short time hotels might change. If anyone wants to check it out before it changes, just walk on that street, and you will be offered.
NOTE: On a previous post about Lilly's, I got confused and gave incorrect information. I confused it with 185 Happy Life. The owner's name of that bar is Lilly. Disregard my previous post about Lilly's.
AmericanThief
11-23-16, 16:06
- Things have changed-There are many more massage places, with girls harassing you for "massa". Didn't check it out.
He says, "boom boom, young girl, 1 hour, $70". I didn't check it out.
"$35, 2 minute walk, boom boom, young girl". I didn't check it out.
Thanks for the insightful field report of all the places you checked out.
Thanks for the insightful field report of all the places you checked out.Geez! I did give the current location of the short time guesthouse/brothel in the Bui Vien area (major backpacker/tourist area). I believe no one has given that info previously.
AmericanThief
11-24-16, 09:47
Are aren't any brothels on Bui Vien.
Are aren't any brothels on Bui Vien.I was there a few weeks ago. I found 3 bars which have girls for take out, but it was big time scamming. The girls wanted 2 M dongs and the bar wanted 300 K in drinks. One bar also requested a bar fine of 300 K. Then you have to add the cost of ST hotel room.
MutantChicken
11-24-16, 14:35
Geez! I did give the current location of the short time guesthouse/brothel in the Bui Vien area (major backpacker/tourist area). I believe no one has given that info previously.When he says brothel he probably means "staging area" there are a few hotels / gust houses around d1 which serve as a staging area you go there they will contact the various motogirls that operate in d1, and then you will be charged 50 usd plus whatever fees they think they can get from you, then rather paying 100 k for a room you will be charged 400-500 k for a room.
AmericanThief
11-24-16, 14:39
I was there a few weeks ago. I found 3 bars which have girls for take out, but it was big time scamming. The girls wanted 2 M dongs and the bar wanted 300 K in drinks. One bar also requested a bar fine of 300 K. Then you have to add the cost of ST hotel room.There are more than 3. They are bars though, not brothels. You have to buy drinks, pay a barfine & a ST Room plus the girl and then she might even want a tip too. A brothel is all inclusive.
Are aren't any brothels on Bui Vien.OK. I did not use the proper adjective.
Not sure if the guesthouse is a "staging area", or if the girls were already in the rooms. My impression was that the girls were already in the room, where I can look at them.
If anyone else is in the area, it would be nice if they would "check it out", and put out a field report. That would satisfy AmericanThief.
Wander Luster
11-24-16, 18:14
OK. I did not use the proper adjective.
Not sure if the guesthouse is a "staging area", or if the girls were already in the rooms. My impression was that the girls were already in the room, where I can look at them.
If anyone else is in the area, it would be nice if they would "check it out", and put out a field report. That would satisfy AmericanThief.Most of the girls that are "bar girls" but work like "hostess girls" live VERY close by. They don't want to use their rooms for P2 P since they share with 4-8 other girls. This is an expensive area to live and they want to send money home (thus the 4-8 sharing an apartment).
However, I went with a freelancer and we just took her motor-bike to an apartment building about 1 minute ride away. I paid for room, but very very little. Don't even remember how much.
Guess my point is, doesn't really matter about this place mentioned. If you want to go with a girl, just go to a short-term hotel within 2 minutes away or an apartment as I did. I think that's super cheap. Yes the costs add up.
I don't think the girls around there are out to steal or really cause problems. They're basically working for bars. It they do something bad like actually stealing or really lieing bad, they're in trouble.
If you don't know, the money to the bar goes to some / large extent to the cops. Cops in HCMC take bribe money from EVERYONE. That includes a motor bike riders that did NOTHING wrong. They pull 'em over and extract bribe. They also like to pull over cute girls for nothing and intimidate them. They're not all bad. Not sure how bad.
I was at Apocalypse last night, a Wednesday at about 11:45. There were some lookers. Prices are similar to hostess bars! But I guess they are better looking there. The girl I went with was better looking then the relatively "upscale" bar-clubs in Cebu I used to go with. She was good for 2-3 hours for $125. I could maybe have gone to $100. Not sure.
By way of comparison, those "relatively upscale clubs" were like $40 for 3 hours. Then, Arena or Jaguar which had tons of "model material" was $100. Like all over SE Asia I'd guess that's all 2 X now as compared to 10 years ago. Manila was ridiculous last year. Maybe a bit better than HCMC. Some of the freelance in Makati was HORRIBLE value / quality girls. Other places was better than HCMC in freelance bar.
I'm curious how much different "value" HCMC is than Bangkok for a GF experience P4P? I'm curious about that and will find out. I'm going to Bangkok for work for a week soon. Nights are all off for me to do my comparisons. I live in HCMC most of the year for work. Hit me up with PM if you have intel to share and will be in Bangkok in the next 2 months (also Phnom Penh I'll go later) in next 2 months and we can trade notes over a beer.
Cheers,
WL
I'm curious how much different "value" HCMC is than Bangkok for a GF experience P4P? I'm curious about that and will find out. I'm going to Bangkok for work for a week soon. Nights are all off for me to do my comparisons. I live in HCMC most of the year for work. Hit me up with PM if you have intel to share and will be in Bangkok in the next 2 months (also Phnom Penh I'll go later) in next 2 months and we can trade notes over a beer.
Cheers,
WLI can speak from some experience that there are a lot of great options in BKK. The oilies of Sukhumvit, where one can find no-holes-barred PSE and GFE sex, are my favorite. Also lots of FL action in Sukhumvit where can negotiate ST / LT with non-pros. The go-gos are a target-rich environment, but lady drinks, bar fines and the price of the girl mean it's tougher to find a bargain.
Quite the opposite, I'm heading to HCMC soon for the first time as part of a longer trip to Vietnam. Looking forward to seeing how the action compares to BKK. I really want to negotiate some overnights, but the market seems to not be as service-oriented as I'm accustomed to in Thailand.
AmericanThief
11-26-16, 08:36
Bui Vien:
Last night there was a stabbing. Foreigner against foreigner, no news yet but rumored to be a Russian guy.
Also, there's been talk about touts on Bui Vien offering things from sunglasses, motorbike rentals even marijuana and girls, but this hasn't been verified yet.
Been to Bangkok a dozen times and spent many extended holidays there, I've also lived in Vietnam for years. I can't really summarize the difference. It would end up being TLDR material.
If I could take the heart of a Thai girl and put it into the body of a Vietnamese girl with the fashion sense of a Japanese girl and the brain of a Korean girl then I'd have the perfect GFE.
Wander Luster
11-30-16, 17:01
I can speak from some experience that there are a lot of great options in BKK. The oilies of Sukhumvit, where one can find no-holes-barred PSE and GFE sex, are my favorite. Also lots of FL action in Sukhumvit where can negotiate ST / LT with non-pros. The go-gos are a target-rich environment, but lady drinks, bar fines and the price of the girl mean it's tougher to find a bargain.
Quite the opposite, I'm heading to HCMC soon for the first time as part of a longer trip to Vietnam. Looking forward to seeing how the action compares to BKK. I really want to negotiate some overnights, but the market seems to not be as service-oriented as I'm accustomed to in Thailand.Thanks for your thoughts. Yea, there's much more about "learning the ropes" here unless paying $120 for ST is no prob for you. Many people would say the escorts are the best because really prices for foreigners are expected to be bumpted up by huge amount more if in the "more normal" locations or spots where there are more than 1/3 foreigners. That is not like Thailand or Cambodia. If you're here for at least two weeks and focus just on the Escort scene, maybe that works. They won't speak any English and you need to reach them via texting. Then there are basic things to know about all that which many on here do not agree on. Really I think this is the city to be if you want a GF! That can also be tougher to "get things going" than Thailand for sure, but once she is your GF she is awesom. And grils DO like Westerners here IMHO for BF. PM me if you like.
WL.
Thanks for your thoughts. Yea, there's much more about "learning the ropes" here unless paying $120 for ST is no prob for you. Many people would say the escorts are the best because really prices for foreigners are expected to be bumpted up by huge amount more if in the "more normal" locations or spots where there are more than 1/3 foreigners. That is not like Thailand or Cambodia. If you're here for at least two weeks and focus just on the Escort scene, maybe that works. They won't speak any English and you need to reach them via texting. Then there are basic things to know about all that which many on here do not agree on. Really I think this is the city to be if you want a GF! That can also be tougher to "get things going" than Thailand for sure, but once she is your GF she is awesome. And grils DO like Westerners here IMHO for BF. PM me if you like.
WL.For better or worse, I will only be in HCMC for about four days. I had to bracket my trip with stops in Bangkok, where I know I'll find guaranteed fun. So I'm coming to Vietnam with no expectations. In Saigon I'll be sure to book a girl-friendly room and see what happens. $120ST is too rich for me. Sounds like a local cell is a must.
AmericanThief
12-01-16, 09:49
Really I think this is the city to be if you want a GF! That can also be tougher to "get things going" than Thailand for sure, but once she is your GF she is awesom. And grils DO like Westerners here IMHO for BF.
I agree but in my experience if the girl is attractive she asks for money, a lot of money. I mean $1000 to "get things going. " If she is not asking for money then she is immediately talking about marriage, kids, meeting the family to "get things going. " I have not found anything in between.
I have some friends, but they are like twenty something that got attractive girls for no money, but when you get older you have to make a sacrifice. Either go the money route or marry the girl.
Wander Luster
12-03-16, 20:40
I agree but in my experience if the girl is attractive she asks for money, a lot of money. I mean $1000 to "get things going. " If she is not asking for money then she is immediately talking about marriage, kids, meeting the family to "get things going. " I have not found anything in between.
I have some friends, but they are like twenty something that got attractive girls for no money, but when you get older you have to make a sacrifice. Either go the money route or marry the girl.You are spot on. I'm over my youthful 30-something ages, and much has changed. The only "sweet-spot" is there are a lot of 30-35 year olds that are hot and will go out guys in their 40's no problem. The 4 I was with most wan't zero help with money, as they were all in good jobs and this country is not as obsessed with money as others, IMO. But, yes, there is really no "middle," they all want marriage considerations (subtlety though it may be, or not) if there is sex. And children.
If you can find the 30-sometings that had a western BF, they "get it" about casual sex. If they haven't done travel and met westerners (in Balik or Thailand for example) they are almost all traditional which is crazy frustrating.
The two girls I banged on 1st and 2nd date, respectively, had both had boyfriends from the West.
If a guy is 20- 35, he's got it made. There are many mid 20 hotties looking to be with western guys, it's a status thing for sure and something they're very curious about. They've see a lot of American / European movies and casual sex is ok. Plus there are many that are waiting to over 30 to get married.
WL.
Luckyguy7198
12-03-16, 21:37
If I could take the heart of a Thai girl and put it into the body of a Vietnamese girl with the fashion sense of a Japanese girl and the brain of a Korean girl then I'd have the perfect GFE.My kind of girl!
+the liver of a Welsh, the gut of a Serbian, the hips of a Ukranian, the sphincter of a Venezuelan, the list goes on.
Let the collages begin.
Booby Boob
12-20-16, 03:49
To be clear, I don't live in Vietnam so my knowledge is that of a tourist, not a local.
However, I went out with a local and we hit Cafe Dalat Pho on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai, a couple blocks from the Bui Vien area. It's a huge air-con cafe, quiet, leafy, where families would gather.
The local guy told me about a dozen mid 30's women, sitting at 2 tables, were hanging out, not talking, waiting for guys to hit on them for friendship, date or sex for the night. They look old in their 30's, flabby and desperate to my taste, so I did not bother.
You just have to mosey over, smile and introduce yourself, talk to all of them, get their phone numbers and pick them up one by one for dates. Locals usually go to movies where they make out in the dark, get horny then rent cheap hotels by the hours for sex.Anyone else have any luck at this Cafe Dalat Pho that young Skywalker has mentioned so many times? Been meaning to check it out as I'd love to try me some MILf Viet action.
The Boob.
AmericanThief
12-20-16, 08:08
Mr Boob,
MILFs are everywhere. Its not just this cafe, but there are plenty of divorced women, single mothers and cheaters to be had here. And they too will ask for money eventually.
Booby Boob
12-20-16, 09:42
Mr Boob,
MILFs are everywhere. Its not just this cafe, but there are plenty of divorced women, single mothers and cheaters to be had here. And they too will ask for money eventually.Thanks for the quick reply, Mr. Thief.
As far as I've read, it seems like there are two sources for someone like me to find such fine vintage women--WeChat and sites like thiendia. The websites are OK, but not ideal because they're obviously P4P and block out the ladies' faces. On the other hand, WeChat seems like it's really hit or miss, not to mention the hassle of having to set up a separate anonymous account just for MILF mongering. Are there others sources that I am missing? I'd prefer to go to a place, like the aforementioned cafe, where I can check out the goods before purchasing, which is important I think when you're dealing with MILFs, and where I can at least indulge my imagination in possibly getting that rare freebie. I'll report back here if I do end up going, although it's been mentioned so many times without anyone else really saying much, that I'm a little doubtful anything will pan out.
The Boob.
Anyone else have any luck at this Cafe Dalat Pho that young Skywalker has mentioned so many times? Been meaning to check it out as I'd love to try me some MILf Viet action.
The Boob.Mr Boob,
Not only the Lat Pho, lots of cafe in Saigon, you will see MILF sitting there, either alone or with friends. But up to my understanding, they don't speak English mostly.
If you ready to pay, then is easy, otherwise, you need to sweet talk to them to get them to bed.
If you look for younger teenager, try Phuc Long cafe, I been fished one girl in Phuc long, she is university student.
Good luck and happy hunting bro.
Booby Boob
12-20-16, 19:12
Mr Boob,
Not only the Lat Pho, lots of cafe in Saigon, you will see MILF sitting there, either alone or with friends. But up to my understanding, they don't speak English mostly.
If you ready to pay, then is easy, otherwise, you need to sweet talk to them to get them to bed.
If you look for younger teenager, try Phuc Long cafe, I been fished one girl in Phuc long, she is university student.
Good luck and happy hunting bro.Hey,
Thanks for the tip Minmax. I used to spend a lot of time in Saigon coffee shops and would occasionally see some MILFs with their friends. Thing is, from what I could tell, these were just regular ladies having coffee with their girlfriends and likely not looking for any play. Since I don't have the personality type to cold approach every MILF I find attractive, I thought Dalat Pho, at least the way the son of Skywalker was describing it, was a place where the ladies are actually sitting around waiting / expecting to be approached. Maybe you guys are right and these lonely, horny MILFs are all around me and I just haven't paid enough attention. There always seem to be attractive MILFs at the various Coffee Beans around town, but I've never had the balls to approach. I mean, how embarrassing would it be turned away by the wife of someone you work with, or worse yet, someone your wife works with?
Thanks for the quick reply, Mr. Thief.
As far as I've read, it seems like there are two sources for someone like me to find such fine vintage women--WeChat and sites like thiendia. The websites are OK, but not ideal because they're obviously P4P and block out the ladies' faces. On the other hand, WeChat seems like it's really hit or miss, not to mention the hassle of having to set up a separate anonymous account just for MILF mongering. Are there others sources that I am missing? I'd prefer to go to a place, like the aforementioned cafe, where I can check out the goods before purchasing, which is important I think when you're dealing with MILFs, and where I can at least indulge my imagination in possibly getting that rare freebie. I'll report back here if I do end up going, although it's been mentioned so many times without anyone else really saying much, that I'm a little doubtful anything will pan out.
The Boob.Haha yeah. I am in the same boat. I went to Dalat Pho but don't like the layout. I just went to one more my style that I will definitely hit again. I like those kind of cafes anyhow and always need some slack. Same level of society. Various levels of MILF to grandmas etc. But yeah, if I had the game to just approach women, I wouldn't need to monger-haha! But I am fit for 50 and try to dress nice in these places, so I just need a little luck I guess. Of course, you could hang out in hotel bars and cafes around Dong Khoi and probably be more likely to find ones actually working.
IF you want to put in time, more and more over-30 (mostly single moms natch) are showing up in the lower-Pasteur street bars, and there are still more opening! Spotted the first ladyboy at Amore I the other night. I have a semi-regular mid-30's lady I met at Apo years ago. Very cool and accommodating, a little chubby but so good in bed. The only problem is she is falling for me.
Also, I was on Bui Vien last Saturday around midnight and while the center "Bia Hoi" area was packed, I noticed that the "girl bars" around and down Do Quang Dau were all completely empty. Are they really trying to charge 500 K bar fines now? Then at the corner of Do Quang Dau I ran into a very homely girl in square-frame glasses who asked me "Hello, Where you go? You go with me?" "You're very direct," I replied. "Direct is best. " Probably an intelligent girl caught up in meth addiction.
Booby Boob
12-23-16, 04:31
To be clear, I don't live in Vietnam so my knowledge is that of a tourist, not a local.
However, I went out with a local and we hit Cafe Dalat Pho on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai, a couple blocks from the Bui Vien area. It's a huge air-con cafe, quiet, leafy, where families would gather.
The local guy told me about a dozen mid 30's women, sitting at 2 tables, were hanging out, not talking, waiting for guys to hit on them for friendship, date or sex for the night. They look old in their 30's, flabby and desperate to my taste, so I did not bother.
You just have to mosey over, smile and introduce yourself, talk to all of them, get their phone numbers and pick them up one by one for dates. Locals usually go to movies where they make out in the dark, get horny then rent cheap hotels by the hours for sex.So I checked out Cafe Dalat Pho yesterday. Maybe it was because I went on a weekday during the daytime (around 2-3 pm), but I didn't see any large groups of women hanging out and not talking. I scouted the open air courtyard out front (empty except for 2 MILF ladies discussing business), the main room inside (families, Vietnamese businessmen, and young guys just hanging out--typical of these kinds of cafes in Saigon), the courtyard out back (empty), as well as the basement seating area (empty except for a few couples in hidden crannies). Is there a better time to go?
LukeSkywalker
12-23-16, 17:52
You will probably have better luck on weekends after 8 PM when people are off work and have time to socialize.
So I checked out Cafe Dalat Pho yesterday. Maybe it was because I went on a weekday during the daytime (around 2-3 pm), but I didn't see any large groups of women hanging out and not talking. I scouted the open air courtyard out front (empty except for 2 MILF ladies discussing business), the main room inside (families, Vietnamese businessmen, and young guys just hanging out--typical of these kinds of cafes in Saigon), the courtyard out back (empty), as well as the basement seating area (empty except for a few couples in hidden crannies). Is there a better time to go?
Wander Luster
12-23-16, 22:01
Mr Boob,
Not only the Lat Pho, lots of cafe in Saigon, you will see MILF sitting there, either alone or with friends. But up to my understanding, they don't speak English mostly.
If you ready to pay, then is easy, otherwise, you need to sweet talk to them to get them to bed.
If you look for younger teenager, try Phuc Long cafe, I been fished one girl in Phuc long, she is university student.
Good luck and happy hunting bro.I've been working / living here 5 months this year. Over 32 usually have poor English compared to under 28. Very clear to me. So, therein lies the challenge for the women in 30's. I'm still perusing the 32, though!
Hey,
Thanks for the tip Minmax. I used to spend a lot of time in Saigon coffee shops and would occasionally see some MILFs with their friends. Thing is, from what I could tell, these were just regular ladies having coffee with their girlfriends and likely not looking for any play. Since I don't have the personality type to cold approach every MILF I find attractive, I thought Dalat Pho, at least the way the son of Skywalker was describing it, was a place where the ladies are actually sitting around waiting / expecting to be approached. Maybe you guys are right and these lonely, horny MILFs are all around me and I just haven't paid enough attention. There always seem to be attractive MILFs at the various Coffee Beans around town, but I've never had the balls to approach. I mean, how embarrassing would it be turned away by the wife of someone you work with, or worse yet, someone your wife works with?Hi Boob,
Honestly, I normally fish girl in zalo (Vietnam wechat), I was same as you, being embarrass to approach girl in cafe, but in Vietnam, I found that it was not that difficult (of course if you can speak bit Vietnam language, will be much easier, and I can speak a bit haha), what you need to do is to look at her and smile, if she was looking for "someone", she will smile back, and the signal is quite significant.
Actually besides MILF in cafe, you can try your luck in Lush (pub) too, most of them are young girl and speak little bit English, if you are lucky enough, maybe you could find a college girl be your local tour guide for few days, and of course, nothing come for free.
Cheers!
I've been working / living here 5 months this year. Over 32 usually have poor English compared to under 28. Very clear to me. So, therein lies the challenge for the women in 30's. I'm still perusing the 32, though!Same here bro, I been working in SG few months last year.
All the girls I tried before are below 30 year old, there are my Tieng Viet teachers, haha.
But I think it is more easy to fish girl above 30 than below 30 yo, girl above 30 yo consider "old" here, they are not so choosy if compare to the teenager / youngster.
Wish to hear more excited sharing from you about Saigon.
Cheers bro.
Geneva Guy
12-24-16, 14:28
Same here bro, I been working in SG few months last year.
All the girls I tried before are below 30 year old, there are my Tieng Viet teachers, haha.
But I think it is more easy to fish girl above 30 than below 30 yo, girl above 30 yo consider "old" here, they are not so choosy if compare to the teenager / youngster.
Wish to hear more excited sharing from you about Saigon.
Cheers bro.Having spent a few years in and out of Hanoi, I agree, easy to find girl about age 30. My own experience is that I have found a couple of sexy older ladies, after some chatting with them online, met them in person and 10-20 minutes after meeting. I had my dick buried in their pussy putting a big load of cum in them. One gal invited me to her house a number of time, I met her teenage daughter that wanted to practice her english, when the daughter left, we went to Mom's bedroom and we practiced our sex positions. Both these gals had never experienced oral sex on them, and they quickly got "hooked" on this. Hehe.
I find the older women still sexy and honestly, they are so horny from either being married to dull VN guys, or divorced. They are up for anything.
GG.
Booby Boob
12-24-16, 20:35
Haha yeah. I am in the same boat. I went to Dalat Pho but don't like the layout. I just went to one more my style that I will definitely hit again. I like those kind of cafes anyhow and always need some slack. Same level of society. Various levels of MILF to grandmas etc. But yeah, if I had the game to just approach women, I wouldn't need to monger-haha! But I am fit for 50 and try to dress nice in these places, so I just need a little luck I guess. Of course, you could hang out in hotel bars and cafes around Dong Khoi and probably be more likely to find ones actually working.
IF you want to put in time, more and more over-30 (mostly single moms natch) are showing up in the lower-Pasteur street bars, and there are still more opening! Spotted the first ladyboy at Amore I the other night. I have a semi-regular mid-30's lady I met at Apo years ago. Very cool and accommodating, a little chubby but so good in bed. The only problem is she is falling for me.Awesome, thanks for the tips ActionGG. Now, I'll definitely have to hit up some of those lower-Pasteur bars that you mention. I've never really been, and just assumed that they were the reincarnation of the old hooker bars that used to line lower HBT, since it seemed to me that they really only started cropping up after the arrival of Starbucks and the subsequent gentrification of HBT. Sorry for sounding like such a newbie, but where is Amore? I couldn't find it at all on Google. And thank you! For finally addressing my Dalat Pho question. I wrote this post before I went to check it out, but due to posting lag times, my (unfruitful) report on the cafe showed up first.
The Boob.
FritsVanegter
12-25-16, 05:26
Hello,
I did visit my favorite very basic coffee shop a few days in a row. Very close to my hotel and 3 nice girls as staff. Because the drinks there are dirt cheap giving a tip is really easy. Their English is just bad. There is one who doesn't mind to feel my arms around her belly. First day I did give a tip to two of them but now I want to focus on the one that doesn't mind to be touched in a very innocent way.
Maybe I should use Google translate and try to invite her to my room. I know she stays upstairs with the female manager of the bar. They start working at noon so maybe I can invite her for English class in my room.
Any advice is welcome in how to proceed.
Greetings,
Frits
Having spent a few years in and out of Hanoi, I agree, easy to find girl about age 30. My own experience is that I have found a couple of sexy older ladies, after some chatting with them online, met them in person and 10-20 minutes after meeting. I had my dick buried in their pussy putting a big load of cum in them. One gal invited me to her house a number of time, I met her teenage daughter that wanted to practice her english, when the daughter left, we went to Mom's bedroom and we practiced our sex positions. Both these gals had never experienced oral sex on them, and they quickly got "hooked" on this. Hehe.
I find the older women still sexy and honestly, they are so horny from either being married to dull VN guys, or divorced. They are up for anything.
GG.Bro GG,
You are so lucky.
And I had been fished few girls on Zalo. Because I know speak tieng viet a bit, haha.
Now I am looking for divorce lady in vietnamcupid too, haha.
Any good holes to share with me?
Cheer bro.
Awesome, thanks for the tips ActionGG. Now, I'll definitely have to hit up some of those lower-Pasteur bars that you mention. I've never really been, and just assumed that they were the reincarnation of the old hooker bars that used to line lower HBT, since it seemed to me that they really only started cropping up after the arrival of Starbucks and the subsequent gentrification of HBT. Sorry for sounding like such a newbie, but where is Amore? I couldn't find it at all on Google. And thank you! For finally addressing my Dalat Pho question. I wrote this post before I went to check it out, but due to posting lag times, my (unfruitful) report on the cafe showed up first.
The Boob.The Lower Pasteur Street area bars are still not the most fruitful endeavor because the girls are good at gladly letting you buy drinks all night and then stuffing you in a taxi, with you mumbling, "What time do you finish. "as the door slams shut but, again, there are hookups with them, paid (seems more likely to find pros who are just there drinking which occurs occasionally) and unpaid, although I think the bars grouped across from Saigon Center (Tequila, Diamond, Cheers) are a little sleazier maybe.
Sorry, Amore just opened so many probably don't know it. Amore I is on Huỳnh Thúsee Kháng, on the second floor on the corner where the market street, number is maybe 29. It is open-air. Amore II is on Pasteur a few doors down from Vinyl and I think it is open-air also.
Wander Luster
12-26-16, 20:00
Hi Boob,
Honestly, I normally fish girl in zalo (Vietnam wechat), I was same as you, being embarrass to approach girl in cafe, but in Vietnam, I found that it was not that difficult (of course if you can speak bit Vietnam language, will be much easier, and I can speak a bit haha), what you need to do is to look at her and smile, if she was looking for "someone", she will smile back, and the signal is quite significant.
Actually besides MILF in cafe, you can try your luck in Lush (pub) too, most of them are young girl and speak little bit English, if you are lucky enough, maybe you could find a college girl be your local tour guide for few days, and of course, nothing come for free.
Cheers!I've been here too long to not know a lot about Lush, and I think even noobs to HCMC could use more info on it. I found that the best approach in Apocalypse Now is to smile and exchange just a few sentences, but then ask a freelance girl to come to the outdoor bar there. Otherwise, there's no conversation. I've "pulled" awesome freelancers with little to no conversation by dancing with them, but I prefer some verbal. I like freelance and those not looking for money over "bar girls" in Asia countries because it's more like a real hook-up. It's less of just based on money.
So, is there somewhere to pull a girl in Lush and talk even if in broken English? I know it has more non-freelance, looking for BF girls vs. Apo Now which is all freelancers and not cheap by standandards in nearby countries. What else works there? I was in a club like lush in Bangkok a few weeks ago and it was farrrr better than finding a bar-girl.
Wander Luster
12-26-16, 20:07
Same here bro, I been working in SG few months last year.
All the girls I tried before are below 30 year old, there are my Tieng Viet teachers, haha.
But I think it is more easy to fish girl above 30 than below 30 yo, girl above 30 yo consider "old" here, they are not so choosy if compare to the teenager / youngster.
Wish to hear more excited sharing from you about Saigon.
Cheers bro.There are tons of Vietnamese free-lancerers in Singapore. You mean that's where you met them? "educated" and/or career-successful girls are PISSED OFF because they've been harassed going into Singapore. Customs treats any single Viet woman like shit, especially if she's good looking.
Overall, an early 30's girl is awesome in HCMC, I agree. If she's not a freelancer and you meet online or elsewhere, there's a much higher chance she will be "traditional" and not put out for a long time than if she's in 20s. 20 something girls are MUCH less traditional. 18 and 19 years old I think they may be the best in SEA, but you'd have to be young enough to play in that sand box (pun intended). Don't be fooled, guys, there are a lot of traditional Viet girls. That is very well known fact anyone that's been here a long time (longer than me) will confirm.
Vietnam is much better for finding a great GF: not so great for a hook-up. Bangkok, Indonesia, Philippines, and Cambodia are all far better for hook-ups with non pros or non freelance.
There are tons of Vietnamese free-lancerers in Singapore. You mean that's where you met them? "educated" and/or career-successful girls are PISSED OFF because they've been harassed going into Singapore. Customs treats any single Viet woman like shit, especially if she's good looking.
Overall, an early 30's girl is awesome in HCMC, I agree. If she's not a freelancer and you meet online or elsewhere, there's a much higher chance she will be "traditional" and not put out for a long time than if she's in 20s. 20 something girls are MUCH less traditional. 18 and 19 years old I think they may be the best in SEA, but you'd have to be young enough to play in that sand box (pun intended). Don't be fooled, guys, there are a lot of traditional Viet girls. That is very well known fact anyone that's been here a long time (longer than me) will confirm.
Vietnam is much better for finding a great GF: not so great for a hook-up. Bangkok, Indonesia, Philippines, and Cambodia are all far better for hook-ups with non pros or non freelance.Never explore to Cambodia & Philippines, but heard lots of the exciting story there, will explore one day.
Pipe Layer99
01-10-17, 12:15
Went to Apo Friday night. Drinks flowing and lots of pretty girls all over. Best to come about 11 pm to get a seat and see the girls as they arrive. My buddy talked to one girl nearby. She seemed stuck up. I waved her over to us, but she wouldn't move. So I tried to warn my bud but he didn't listen. She wouldn't even lean over or move 2 feet to say Hi. We were at the table right next to her. He went over to talk for a few minutes. No deal. After a few rounds my two buddies left. I stayed and found a cutie and took her back to my hotel. A good session at night and another romp in the early afternoon. Donation was 1. 5 m for the night. She left about 2 pm. Side note, my girl turned out to be pretty sweet. She even straightened up my dirty clothes from the other night. I had some underware, 2 t-shirts and a pair of shorts from Thursday night lying in a chair. She folded them all up and placed them in the closet. Wasn't really necessary because they were dirty anyway and they were not in the way of anything. But it was still a nice little gesture. Might need to repeat with this one before I go.
After thinking of going to Benny's again (I went there yesterday for the first time) I decided to try something new. Since I am only staying 3 days, I wanted to explore.
I went for a foot massage at Bui Vien and I was approached by a hot lady working on Violet Spa (Early 30's) that suggested a BJ for 500 after I refused a happy ending (I am not paying for something I can do my self). After reading not very good reports about Bui Vien although very tempted I didn't proceed. Walked back at my hotel to get some money and at the door the bell boy asked me if I wanted a girl for a mil ST. Another temptation. I guess a guy alone in HCM is assumed to be looking for pussy. Anyway, the fact that I had no control over who the girl is going to be so I declined and left for Apo around 11:30.
Not too many girls maybe a ratio of 1/1. But most were very good looking (20 to 30 years old). I approached two of the best looking ones and both said 3000 k for ST. No negotiations, no discussion, which turned me off. They both told me that this is the price for ST for all girls. Probably too early to drop the price.
After going back by the pool table a thin relatively tall hottie, called Vy, came and sat next to me. Her English was ok, you could have a basic conversation. She asked for 3 mil and I firmly said 1.5 mil is my max. But she did not leave. She was quite pushy but in a nice way. Very professional, which in my book is a good sign.
Anyhow, 15 minutes later we agreed on 1.7 for ST (I probably overpaid but I liked her and 200 k difference is not a big deal). Came back to my hotel (Minh Vy. Super small rooms but very clean and new), no problem of course, just left her ID at the desk.
No surprises when she took her clothes of. Long legs (tall for a Viet girl -1.65) super tight body, no sign of fat anywhere, an unbelievable round ass. A solid 9+ in terms of body, maybe an 8 face. Sweet but not a model's face. We showered together, BBBJ and all positions. Definitely GF experience, very nice girl indeed. Money well spend.
I liked her so much that I asked her to come by tomorrow for 1.2 mil (ST).
Beer price at Apo 130 k dong. Ouch.
Benny's is a good value I believe for 400 k, although I have not tried any other BJ joint. I hate the fact that there is very little privacy (I could see the guy next door). A bit mechanical but the girl let me stick my fingers in her pussy and she actually asked me to touch her boobs. She was a bit perky but she gave an excellent BJ, as some mention a pornstar level of service.
Wander Luster
03-07-17, 22:43
After thinking of going to Benny's again (I went there yesterday for the first time) I decided to try something new. Since I am only staying 3 days, I wanted to explore.
Anyway, the fact that I had no control over who the girl is going to be so I declined and left for Apo around 11:30.
Well done report. I live in HCMC and have been to Apo about 8 times in the last 5 months. The game can be fun there. If you learn how to play it. The girls that speak very little English are the ones that will also go with you for far less, maybe 1. 5, even if they are super hot. In general, I find it's always a bit of a crap-shoot and the girl at the bar is not the same as the one in your bed. I've had amazing GF experience, boring pro experience, and girls trying to just collect their money after boring attitude and leave. I do think a goal is to find the best and keep their number. I have a couple I'd never give out (Remember they are charging ALMOST 2 X Bangkok, a more expensive city and one that is more modern. But it's true the two cultures are super different and VN girls are better in many cases.
My advice for sure is talk to a girl in the more quiet room on ground floor. There's a lot to understand and you'll have fun and hopefully make her more relaxed. If she thinks you're trust-worthy after talking she'll take a smaller price. There are stunners that are worth the 3 mm, but I find many of them act too super pro in bed and no fun. Don't pay more than 120 usd!
NguyetLang
03-08-17, 12:13
After thinking of going to Benny's again (I went there yesterday for the first time) I decided to try something new. Since I am only staying 3 days, I wanted to explore.
I went for a foot massage at Bui Vien and I was approached by a hot lady working on Violet Spa (Early 30's) that suggested a BJ for 500 after I refused a happy ending (I am not paying for something I can do my self). After reading not very good reports about Bui Vien although very tempted I didn't proceed. Walked back at my hotel to get some money and at the door the bell boy asked me if I wanted a girl for a mil ST. Another temptation. I guess a guy alone in HCM is assumed to be looking for pussy. Anyway, the fact that I had no control over who the girl is going to be so I declined and left for Apo around 11:30.
You (and other members for future reference) do have some control by right of refusal. Next time just tell the boy if you don't like the girl you can: 1) give her taxi money 50 k VND and send her packing, or 2) they send over another girl (they can do about three exchanges before both sides call it quit. No taxi money on exchange).
Hope that helps (future mongering).
Peter.
Member #4674
04-03-17, 10:14
Hello, everyone.
One of my friend recommend me a club founded by korean named JOLLY, the price there is not cheap but says the quality is good. Does anyone heard or have experience about that?
Thanks in advance.
Be careful if you are out and about in the Ho Tung Mau or Pasteur Bars. If you go to Retro, Rumours or Cloud 9 they have a habit of charging you 180,000 for a lady drink. I bought a girl a drink at Rumours the other night. It was supposed to be a standard priced lady drink at 140,000. What I did not realise until I paid the bill was that she had ordered Patron Cafe XO. Which is coffee coloured. The drink was actually milk coloured with ice in it. So how could it have been Cafe XO. Impossible! The girl that I bought the drink for is in her thirties, her name is Nga and also works part time at Cloud 9. There is also a girl work there called Dung, be careful of her. She pulls the same stunt!
Since Tet you can now get take away company for the night at a cost of around 1.5 to 2 million from many of the bars on the top end of Pasteur. Not from Rock Bar, The Pub or round the corner at Navy, but many of the others will join you at your hotel if the price is right after they finish work.
Be careful if you are out and about in the Ho Tung Mau or Pasteur Bars. If you go to Retro, Rumours or Cloud 9 they have a habit of charging you 180,000 for a lady drink. I bought a girl a drink at Rumours the other night. It was supposed to be a standard priced lady drink at 140,000. What I did not realise until I paid the bill was that she had ordered Patron Cafe XO. Which is coffee coloured. The drink was actually milk coloured with ice in it. So how could it have been Cafe XO. Impossible! The girl that I bought the drink for is in her thirties, her name is Nga and also works part time at Cloud 9. There is also a girl work there called Dung, be careful of her. She pulls the same stunt!
Since Tet you can now get take away company for the night at a cost of around 1.5 to 2 million from many of the bars on the top end of Pasteur. Not from Rock Bar, The Pub or round the corner at Navy, but many of the others will join you at your hotel if the price is right after they finish work.All the bars in this area will charge you 180,000 or 200,000 for lady drinks and almost all the girls are available for whatever you want after work, prices quoted are correct for short time.
All the bars in this area will charge you 180,000 or 200,000 for lady drinks and almost all the girls are available for whatever you want after work, prices quoted are correct for short time.Not all the bars. For example. Rock bar, Drunken Duck, Manhattan, M52, Friends, The Pub charge 120,000 or less! 180,000 is above average!
Is it all the bars in this area where almost all girls are "available" for a price? Or only some of them. If it is only some, then it would be useful for us to make a list of which bars are yes and which bars are no.
I thought No. 5 bar was in the no category. But I'm not sure.
Afraid my days of bonking after bar closing hours are over now. Maybe better to get a phone number and schedule something for the next day.
Amspascha wrote asking about Jolly club below, but he didn't mention what is on offer in this place.
Currently in HCMC, thinking of hitting up the nightclubs. If anyone else is up for this, let me know.
A new bar has recently opened at 104 Ham Nghi in D1. Its called Check In.
The bar is owned by 4 Viet ladies.
Negatives. Two of the owners have no experience about running a bar at all. LOL.
Be careful in this bar, the lady drink cost is 140,000 and the girls just drink milk, coke or sprite.
Ms Ng the bar owner gets really pissed, pukes everywhere and is generally obnoxious when drunk. She thinks she is being funny!
Positives. Two of the girls are up for after hours activity at 2 million a pop. Ki and Oa, both live and play together. Buy a bottle let the girls drink from yr bottle and hey presto yr in. But wear a condom, because you never know who was there just before you.
I wrote a huge report and TFF logged me out so this is what is left. Sorry.
Not sure if it was an acid flashback or my drink was spiked but I dreamed Kim Wilde and I were indeed "Flying to Cambodia."
Great song BTW for you pre 1970 children.
Anyways, I was very very bored and a little tipsy and had heard about this Drunken Duck from RTFF and gave it a whirl. Very quiet for a while and then. Boom. It was like the 1/2 time show at the Superbowl (a good one like when the who played and not Bruno Mars, you know what I mean). The place lit up like a pin ball machine, people everywhere. Either that or my drinks kicked in.
So, I only wandered into the place because it was open and I was looking for some chit chat and maybe company. Very quiet initially and then after 8 the heavens opened up and there were people everywhere. One bright young thing quoted me 2 MIL but by that stage I think Phase 1 of my acid thingy had started and I was really on a love all phase. The young lass is quite a looker (face wise) by my standards so I plan to return sober as a bishop (pre-service) this weekend and see the young lass. I have never been into drugs at all, but, I was on another planet and I know (few days after the fact) something was put in my drink. In all honesty it may have happened at one of the 2-3 bars I went to before the DD. I staggered out, really maggoted, walked a few streets (the wrong way towards the river) and then wallop, got king hit by what I suspect was a rather big hunk of wood. Didn't phase me too much as I managed to stay on my feet. I turned around and whoever hit me ran really quickly in the other direction.
Quite a night as it is only the 3rd time in 30 years of global travel that someone has had a go at me in that way and I am glad it wasn't some 250 lb lineman doing the swinging. As far as the bar goes, I am going again this Fri night, after 2 days in Phnom Penh. I want to see the action up close sans the champagne and beer.
Went to this bar quite frequently and found out that the boss will force lady to drink with customers even when they are totally drunk.
Given this bar a miss.
Bad Boss.
Member #4591
06-22-17, 20:19
Went to this bar quite frequently and found out that the boss will force lady to drink with customers even when they are totally drunk.
Given this bar a miss.
Bad Boss.Wow. So you joined ISG just to post this comment. I sense something a miss here. First of all, no one will believe such a stupid post. Secondly, I've never been to a go go bar in Thailand or any other country where women don't continue to drink when they are drunk to make money from Lady drinks. Utterly ridiculous post and an obvious attempt to spread bad rumours about one bar that maybe no one here has even heard of before.
Member #4591
06-22-17, 20:22
I wrote a huge report and TFF logged me out so this is what is left. Sorry.
Not sure if it was an acid flashback or my drink was spiked but I dreamed Kim Wilde and I were indeed "Flying to Cambodia."
Great song BTW for you pre 1970 children.
Anyways, I was very very bored and a little tipsy and had heard about this Drunken Duck from RTFF and gave it a whirl. Very quiet for a while and then. Boom. It was like the 1/2 time show at the Superbowl (a good one like when the who played and not Bruno Mars, you know what I mean). The place lit up like a pin ball machine, people everywhere. Either that or my drinks kicked in.
So, I only wandered into the place because it was open and I was looking for some chit chat and maybe company. Very quiet initially and then after 8 the heavens opened up and there were people everywhere. One bright young thing quoted me 2 MIL but by that stage I think Phase 1 of my acid thingy had started and I was really on a love all phase. The young lass is quite a looker (face wise) by my standards so I plan to return sober as a bishop (pre-service) this weekend and see the young lass. I have never been into drugs at all, but, I was on another planet and I know (few days after the fact) something was put in my drink. In all honesty it may have happened at one of the 2-3 bars I went to before the DD. I staggered out, really maggoted, walked a few streets (the wrong way towards the river) and then wallop, got king hit by what I suspect was a rather big hunk of wood. Didn't phase me too much as I managed to stay on my feet. I turned around and whoever hit me ran really quickly in the other direction.
Quite a night as it is only the 3rd time in 30 years of global travel that someone has had a go at me in that way and I am glad it wasn't some 250 lb lineman doing the swinging. As far as the bar goes, I am going again this Fri night, after 2 days in Phnom Penh. I want to see the action up close sans the champagne and beer.I'm pretty sure you were still high when you wrote this post LOL.
I'm pretty sure you were still high when you wrote this post LOL.Quality response shag. As in no SOH.
As one bar closes another opens. M52 bit the dust a few weeks ago and in it's place up pops 'My Place'.
A word of warning. The owner of this bar is the same woman that owns 'Legends'. That bar has a reputation for repeatedly adding drinks to your bill and therefore one can only assume the same will happen at 'My Place'.
When I say 'owns.' What I really mean is. Has been funded by a fat expat who has his brains planted firmly in the 'rarely has he seen it', item located under his overhanging belly!
Fredrick SG
08-25-17, 15:04
Bars open, bars close as per the post before. The new bar on the D1 strip is Jameson, which rivals bars like Navy and Kim's Tavern.
Interesting place, with some interesting internal stories. One of the regulars there, let's call him Tony. A real player who regularly boasts how many P4P's he rolls over every week, has a GF or wifey "to be" in the bar. Nothing new in that but here is where it becomes interesting, his GF is on the game too and has met me outside opening hours a few times for some 3 Hole sessions. A real little wild one who goes right off with huge orgasms.
I'm probably classed as a big spender so know I can throw a bit of money and get my choice from the GRO's to partners or owners, money talks in these hostess bars, and they all seem to worship money- including Tony's girl.
So here is the question, which one should I tell about the other's betrayal before it gets to marriage, or should I just keep my mouth shut and enjoy the wild sex ride?
The new bar on the D1 strip is Jameson, which rivals bars like Navy and Kim's Tavern.
Has a GF or wifey "to be" in the bar. Nothing new in that but here is where it becomes interesting, his GF is on the game too and has met me outside opening hours a few times for some 3 Hole sessions. A real little wild one who goes right off with huge orgasms. I don't know Jameson, where is it, Pasteur St?
I would like to know who the 3 holes girl is, I'm up for that kinda challenge. How can I recognise her, what's her going rate?
There is a girlie works at Infinity. Dung. Going rate is 2 tr for all night. Good performer!
LetThemEatSake
08-26-17, 04:00
Mouth shut. Enjoy the ride.
3 hole session. I'll be in Saigon very soon. Think you'll be up for a DP session?
Bars open, bars close as per the post before. The new bar on the D1 strip is Jameson, which rivals bars like Navy and Kim's Tavern.
Interesting place, with some interesting internal stories. One of the regulars there, let's call him Tony. A real player who regularly boasts how many P4P's he rolls over every week, has a GF or wifey "to be" in the bar. Nothing new in that but here is where it becomes interesting, his GF is on the game too and has met me outside opening hours a few times for some 3 Hole sessions. A real little wild one who goes right off with huge orgasms.
I'm probably classed as a big spender so know I can throw a bit of money and get my choice from the GRO's to partners or owners, money talks in these hostess bars, and they all seem to worship money- including Tony's girl.
So here is the question, which one should I tell about the other's betrayal before it gets to marriage, or should I just keep my mouth shut and enjoy the wild sex ride?
Fredrick SG
08-26-17, 21:21
I don't know Jameson, where is it, Pasteur St?
I would like to know who the 3 holes girl is, I'm up for that kinda challenge. How can I recognise her, what's her going rate?
There is a girlie works at Infinity. Dung. Going rate is 2 tr for all night. Good performer!Sorry guys about the predictive text error on the bar name. Predictive text can be the bane of my life especially if I typo in spelling.
Correct bar name is "Gemstone" & it's opposite Xu's. Look for the little spinner with long hair that smiles a lot (won't put a name here. But easy to pick). Especially big smiles for big spenders because it seems you got to spend big on a bar bill to trigger the action, which funnily enough is free "so far". Clearly, she is a master gold digger so I don't really understand that deal.
Fredrick SG
08-26-17, 21:40
Mouth shut. Enjoy the ride.
3 hole session. I'll be in Saigon very soon. Think you'll be up for a DP session?Being a greedy bastard I don't do DP.
Not sure if the little spinner would go for DP (she is a bit flighty). In my experience, if you throw around enough money you can get anything you want, with anyone you want. From the bartenders' girlfriend through to a partner or owner.
Bar girl marriage. Makes me wonder.
Fredrick SG
08-29-17, 17:06
Had another lovely afternoon delight with the 'little spinner' who was so upset and down about being denied a tourist visa to meet up with her "future husband" in England. She said if she fails the second visa application she will never go to England- ever. Hahaha. This really shows the UK review system on Visa's does work, at least in Ho Chi Minh City.
It gives me great amusement how such a sweet and innocent face can be such a hot, wet and wild little tigress in bed, and a mercenary gold digger by character.
It's amazing with the post wild sex session chat how very devious the little 'spinner' really is. Tony (not his real name), doesn't know what is going to hit him financially when the 'spinner' winds up her hurricane of well-planned action, and will be a poor broke monger sooner that you can say "fuck my shaved little pussy harder. Just one more time."
Might want to move on to another challenge soon, but this girl is such a good performer and gets so into sex that it's hard to walk away. I can see how some guys get addicted and blinded by love with them.
... She said if she fails the second visa application she will never go to England- ever.
There are also many Ugandan Girls. Coming from Thailand to Malaysia to Jakarta then to Saigon, because they try to get Visa back to Thailand and it's hard this days to get it.
LetThemEatSake
08-31-17, 12:06
Hahaha. I get what you mean. Enjoy the free ride (s)!
Being a greedy bastard I don't do DP.
Not sure if the little spinner would go for DP (she is a bit flighty). In my experience, if you throw around enough money you can get anything you want, with anyone you want. From the bartenders' girlfriend through to a partner or owner.
Bar girl marriage. Makes me wonder.
Fredrick SG
09-04-17, 12:59
Hahaha. I get what you mean. Enjoy the free ride (s)!In a quick session very late this afternoon around 5 pm I was out of sorts and giving DATY to the little spinner. Something I never normally do, and took a breath to ask a question before getting back down to the job. I will write about the reaction before writing the question.
So upon resuming the DATY after asking the question, almost immediately she had a shattering orgasm, body spasms, guttural groans, almost like a having some sort of epileptic fit which was a maybe 30% higher response than normal. I guess the question triggered her mind to go over the edge.
What was the question? Well. I asked her if she would like to have anal sex and get mouth fucked at the same time as in DP.
Read into that what you will, but I'm still too greedy to do DP!
Fredrick SG
09-05-17, 02:46
Innocent Predators.
I took a friend out for smallish bar hop last night and it was pretty dead in my normal circuit without the loud music and noise which was actually better for my taste. Of course, we hit Gemstone so I could see the reaction of my little spinner after the earlier question but really got no response or attention.
She was busy chatting, planning, scheming and plotting with her cohorts.
Later we went to Hangover and my friend who speaks VNese fluently related the earlier discussion of the girls that he was listening in on. They look so sweet and innocent but the reality is far from that and like most people in this industry they are 'put simply' a bunch of sharks and crocodiles.
Cutting a long story short, the discussion was how she got her ex to pay for international school fee for her small child, and also got her new guy 'husband to be' TT over money to cover a year of school fees in Vietnam as well. So ends up with two lots of $14 K USD.
So my dear mongers, this is a word of warning to not believe a word that comes from the mouth of these little innocent angels, and other than paying for bar bills keep a tight hand on your money.
Seen many times before where girls get several of their 'sponsors' to each pay for a new Vespa motorbike, but this new scam is growing in scale.
So this is a word of warning, let's be smart mongers and fully aware when in their territory.
Fredrick SG
09-10-17, 10:44
Thought it was to be another intensely relaxing afternoon delight about 2 pm, but ended up a stressful event with the little spinner being a hellcat mood. Anyway, at least I got to BBBJCIM and made her swallow all before sending her off to see her kid & ex.
So gentlemen seems like the end of the road with this little side track and I will be moving on to the next hostess bar challenge without delay. Onward and upward fellow mongers!
GoneFishin
09-17-17, 13:30
Well, I was only in HCMC a few days so had to check this place out. Went at 11 pm on a Monday and Tuesday. Sat near the back where the pool table is and better lighting to check out the meat market. Lots of girls with different age groups and body types. I did not want a squemish one so went for MILF type. I also did not want to haggle so just barked out my upper limit which was 3 mil take it or leave it for GFE. A few of the better looking girls did seem to put off airs of stuckupness. Several approached me asking if I wanted company but never in a demanding way. Monday I just was not feeling it so bugged out. Tuesday was different story, there was a MILF that walked in around midnight and I was already a few drinks in so approached her and ask to sit with me at the benches in the back room where we could talk. She did not smoke which was one of my preferences and did not ask for a drink. We talked and could converse in English fairly well. I asked her about going to her place and gave out the price for 3 mil. She looked at me and said lets go. Her building was not far, I think near that bui vien area as she asked me to be careful around there after the deed. We showered together and she gave me BBBJ. I was really into her so laid her back for some DATY and went to town. Can't tell you how many times she came but she was multiorgasmic and really was just rolling into one orgasim after another. I really did not have to work hard. She is good and sloppy now so decided to get mine. Did every position I could think of then rested with some tea she had in her little fridge. After about 30 min chatting I started to play with her again then down to DATY and she goes into her mulitorgasmic routine once again. Her stomach muscles were really contracting. I let her rest more between each and then when it was my turn I let her loose on top of me to do most of the work. She grinded me down to nothing. She collapsed then I showered to prepare to return home. It was like almost 5 am. I had sex with her a good 3 to 4 hours. Money well spent and I was happy.
GF.
GoneFishin
09-17-17, 13:42
I'm not sure what to call this type of place. It is down the only alley around the corner from Apo. You can access the alley from either Hai Ba Trung or Dong Du. I'm sure old timers have already visited here. Go down and there is a club, forgot the name but something with Lu lu in it. Doesn't matter as its the only alley on that block and there will be a girl sitting near entrance of alley or club. The club has a first floor bar then second floor pool table then third floor rooms for full service. They have like 5 girls or so, some cute. I saw 2 gringos leave as I started on my first drink. Found a girl I liked and we played pool a bit. After that I told her I wanted full service she started at 2 mil and I countered with 1. 7, she agreed so maybe its really lower. Basic room with air con. I only saw the one room. She uses wipes on you then does a BBBJ. It was nice service as I was not expecting full service in a bar in this city. I would repeat with at least one other girl I saw there. I never saw them all out together. They must keep busy. Anyway, some of you veterans can verify the name for me. The sign for the place is above the alley entrance from Hai Ba Trung.
GF.
TerryTagger
09-24-17, 17:21
Went on a bar hop on Friday in District 1, visited Xu's where it was quiet and they tried to pad the bill, then across the road to Gemstone and saw Fredricks little spinner minus the smiling face (maybe missing his bed action and bored with the hubby to be). After getting half tanked there I staggered to Navy bar where there was some party, fun place. I really can't remember where I went after that but got home in a taxi about 4:30 am, or so I was told. Girls in Xu's are fairly boring like the dimwit owner, Gemstone had some wet pussy ready for action however asking 3 million ST, but Navy was where the atmosphere and fun was on that night. Weird how the very atmosphere of a place can be so different on each night, sometimes even an hour will change in a bar from dead to pumping.
TerryTagger
10-01-17, 13:48
*** Gemstone had some wet pussy ready for action however asking 3 million ST, but Navy was where the atmosphere and fun was on that night. Weird how the very atmosphere of a place can be so different on each night, sometimes even an hour will change in a bar from dead to pumping.Took the plunge with long legged Ms Hang from Gemstone and she ended up all business, wanted me to mount and dismount like a merry-go-round ride, initially she was wanting to go bareback. Not for me with a high miler like that. Definitely not worth the 3 million, then she had the audacity to ask for an extra 1 million for a BBJCIM. Hard core money grabber and unimpressed. Zero GFE on this round.
TerryTagger
10-04-17, 15:08
Took the plunge with long legged Ms Hang from Gemstone and she ended up all business, wanted me to mount and dismount like a merry-go-round ride, initially she was wanting to go bareback. Not for me with a high miler like that. Definitely not worth the 3 million, then she had the audacity to ask for an extra 1 million for a BBJCIM. Hard core money grabber and unimpressed. Zero GFE on this round.Well fellow mongers, I am not one to give up so I decided to try Ms My from Gemstone for a ST, and hell what a difference. Wet and wild in the sack, and can suck a golf ball through the proverbial garden hose. She delivered a real GFE for the 3 million and never asked for extra. Given her superior performance and gripping wet pussy I might do a return ST with sweet Ms My, but got to get the right timing for when her honey pie is in Hong Kong. My ambition is to nail and rate every pussy in the place, including the talkative little spinner -3 holes- of Fredrick.
Fredrick SG
10-05-17, 12:53
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Fredrick SG
10-06-17, 02:34
Well fellow mongers, I am not one to give up so I decided to try Ms My from Gemstone for a ST, and hell what a difference. Wet and wild in the sack, and can suck a golf ball through the proverbial garden hose. She delivered a real GFE for the 3 million and never asked for extra. Given her superior performance and gripping wet pussy I might do a return ST with sweet Ms My, but got to get the right timing for when her honey pie is in Hong Kong. My ambition is to nail and rate every pussy in the place, including the talkative little spinner -3 holes- of Fredrick.Terry, I must admire your ambitions. I have moved on from there, so give it your best shot to try a 3-hole with little Khuyen, or if you want a really good 2-hole experience Ms. Kieu would be the best shot. Kieu gives one of the best BBJCIM I have experienced in SG and has great. Really great- muscle control. Wrap up for the 3 Holes though.
KenDavis03
10-09-17, 23:34
A couple of newbie (to Vietnam) questions:
When you all take out a girl out of a place like Gemstones, does she take you to a ST hotel nearby? What limited experience I have in Vietnam always worked like that. But, they took me in a cab and that always makes me nervous. In BKK you can almost always walk to a nearby ST hotel. Anyways, I know it's not a great idea to bring girls back to the room, so how does this usually work?
Also: what time do these places start to get going with working girls? I am in town to work, so I can't really stay up too late. In most cities, I try to arrange a sure thing and be back in my hotel sleeping alone by 10!
I am still looking for that primo agency in HCMC that provides top girls who are well behaved, at a premium price. Every city has one, but maybe HCMC is the exception. I am lazy and have a big budget for this kind of fun, so mostly just want to have an easy time.
I'll be there next week if anyone is around!
Terry, I must admire your ambitions. I have moved on from there, so give it your best shot to try a 3-hole with little Khuyen, or if you want a really good 2-hole experience Ms. Kieu would be the best shot. Kieu gives one of the best BBJCIM I have experienced in SG and has great. Really great- muscle control. Wrap up for the 3 Holes though.
Fredrick SG
10-11-17, 16:50
A couple of newbie (to Vietnam) questions:
When you all take out a girl out of a place like Gemstones, does she take you to a ST hotel nearby? What limited experience I have in Vietnam always worked like that. But, they took me in a cab and that always makes me nervous. In BKK you can almost always walk to a nearby ST hotel. Anyways, I know it's not a great idea to bring girls back to the room, so how does this usually work?Ken, after a few sessions spending big my fun times were free but "after hours" at my pad. Don't know exact deal Terry got with his couple of ST but it is possible if they like you or you offer the right inducement, but also be prepared to get an outright NO as an answer. You can also get some nice stimulation from the local spa places without the high cost or alcohol-induced ego roll, check out that thread for leads. Online is hit and miss for a short business trip. Girls out of hostess bars are unlikely to steal but if you pick up a hooker from the street they will rob you blind.
Enjoy the play.
A couple of newbie (to Vietnam) questions:
When you all take out a girl out of a place like Gemstones, does she take you to a ST hotel nearby? What limited experience I have in Vietnam always worked like that. But, they took me in a cab and that always makes me nervous. In BKK you can almost always walk to a nearby ST hotel. Anyways, I know it's not a great idea to bring girls back to the room, so how does this usually work?
Also: what time do these places start to get going with working girls? I am in town to work, so I can't really stay up too late. In most cities, I try to arrange a sure thing and be back in my hotel sleeping alone by 10!
I am still looking for that primo agency in HCMC that provides top girls who are well behaved, at a premium price. Every city has one, but maybe HCMC is the exception. I am lazy and have a big budget for this kind of fun, so mostly just want to have an easy time.
I'll be there next week if anyone is around!It's normal to taxi to the hotel because hotels are usually not walking distance from the bar. Don't worry. If you want them to go to your room they surely would be OK with that, or if you want ST hotel instead of course they will do that. Those girls usually start 7 pm to 8 pm, maybe later sometimes.
I don't know that high end service but I hear they exist.
Is Infinity bar the same place as Woo bar? I went to a place called wood bar and took a picture of my bar tab tonight and noticed the receipt said Infinity.
Bar Update.
Yes Infinity and Woo is the same place. Boring as hell now, all the good girls have gone and left the dregs!
'The Pub' has changed owners recently and the food is terrible now. Don't order the Seafood Pizza unless you want a grease ridden meal. Watch out for a girl called Sunny, very tactile, but a real gold digger!
98 Degrees is OK, but the girls are not very playful!
Chica is full of overweight middle aged pro's now.
Friends bar has also lost all the fun girls, they seem to have moved to Corner Bar where you can have a really good giggle.
But wherever you go, check yr bill.
Where is Bar 35? I've been researching back in history and I heard someone mention a great time there. I found this place but I don't know if it's the same place because it's a club? I'd like to have a place where I can get the service at the bar and not have to waste time going elsewhere.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Club+35+TopNight / at 10.7749984,106.6872887,17.45 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x0:0 x21236 df7364265 d2!8 m2!3 d10.775453!4 d106.688468.
Actually that list is pretty out of date now. There was a major clampdown on these places last week, and 4 of the main bars were shut down (35, 37, 49, 51) and the rest are in rough shape. I went around to check out a few bars tonight. If a bar usually had 15 girls, now it has 3. And it's not the pretty young ones. They seem to have been ordered to take away the darkened glass they usually have on the front, and also to keep the lights up bright, and the girls to dress in much less sexy outfits. Some bars went with ao dais, others with dresses. It was so bad, even at 91 there wasn't a single one I was interested in sitting with. If it stays like this long term, could be the end of this scene. Seriously, for anyone coming to town, unless things change, my earlier post about these bars no longer applies. These places are not worth visiting right now, you're sure to be disappointed. Hope they bounce back.Been reading through like crazy, so these billard's places no longer exist?
TerryTagger
11-05-17, 09:11
Well I finally got to try Khuyen from Gemstone on Saturday afternoon, and she really wasn't what I expected, in a starfish sort of way and later chased the dragon to get artificial energy. Says she uses the excuse visiting her kid in the afternoon, so her other half can't argue with her sideline work. Stung 4 million.
She was all hellfire later in the night when I dropped by the bar and she was getting a bit too close to a punter who was with his Chinese girlfriend. The Chinese girl attacked little Khuyen and a catfight ensued, and ended up Khuyen kicked her ass pretty bad but ended up all scratched up too. These places do provide more entertainment than expected, buy a beer and watch a cat fight so might drop by again tonight and look if there will be round 2, or at least see the scratches and bruises. Wonder what will happen next weekend around the traps to top this! I love Saigon.
Stung 4 million.So this guy took his date to a hooker bar?
4 million is their going rate at this place? The yen must be very strong now. (giggle).
So is that for ST or LT or what?
TerryTagger
11-09-17, 02:45
So this guy took his date to a hooker bar?
4 million is their going rate at this place? The yen must be very strong now. (giggle).
So is that for ST or LT or what?Not found a set rate so far, just negotiate each meet as an individual deal, normally catching up the day after a visit for between two to four hours.
Most of the bars in the area work on the same principle, on a weekday night you can get them out for ST if not busy, otherwise it is a next day meet up. Typically in the afternoon after they sleep off their hangovers.
So this report is a bit late (from last Febuary), but I'm making another trip to Saigon and was doing a little research for my next trip. So I figured I'd add some info. I stopped in a handful of bars around Pasteur street. I ended up stopping in Cheers Pub (100 Pasteur) while it wasn't busy, and I was waiting to meet some friends. They probably had 6 to 7 girls at the time. A few were lookers, but most were average at 6 PM on a Sunday. I ended up talking to a couple girls in particular and bought them a few drinks. After about an hour one of the girls was already DKF'ing me and asking me to check if her large see cups were real or not. I checked and they were real, LOL. But at first she told me she got her tits in Thailand. She said she was from the Mekong close to Cambodia. You could tell by the darker skin and she had more of a Cambodian girl look to her. But I had to leave to meet several of my friends that were also in town for the same event. I told her that I would be back, even though I wasn't sure that I meant it.
So the first several bars I followed people to in Pahm Ngu Lao weren't cutting it for most of the group. They wanted some more action, so I brought everyone back to Cheers. So to make a long story short; We had a great time drinking there and a lot more girls had shown up to work. I hooked back up with the same girl. I asked her if I could barfine her, as I live in Thailand and wasn't sure if that was a thing in Vietnam. She said that I just had to wait for her to finish work at 3 and she would go with me to my hotel. No talk of money yet. So that's what happened. We grabbed some Pho after she finished work and cabbed back to my hotel in D7. It was girl friendly no problem as they actually offer rooms for hourly rental. The hotel is also next to many massage shops with extras that mainly cater to the Koreans living in Sky Garden in D7. But the nightly rates are around 500,000 dong for nice rooms with laundry service included.
The sex was more of a GFE, but she accepted a good money shot no problem. She was willing to do whatever. We repeated in the morning. Her body was baby free and a good 7. 5 out of 10. I gave her the extra. 5 for nice tits and ass, but a little bit of a belly, only a pinch maybe. Her face was pretty, but in more of an exotic Cambodian girllooking way. She wasn't pretty in the classic standards, but her look really did it for me. She said that she was 29 and I thought she looked maybe younger.
I had to leave the next day and got her a cab. I slipped her 1. 5 and told her it was for cab fare. She never asked me for money. So the same night she wanted to see me again. I was super hungover and didn't want to go out drinking again. I just hung out at my friends house and went back to the hotel to wait for her after work. She came to the hotel at 3 am and did the deed once again right after she cam over, and again in the morning. I left that day back to Bangkok, so she offered to call into work so that she could spend time with me and take me to the airport. I declined because I had to meet with people again that day. I slipped her another 1. 5 as I put her into the taxi again. We still chat a couple times a week, so I'll spend some time with her on my next trip.
I think that all of the bars in this area can be treated the same way. I've read that some of the girls can go out of the bar when it's slow. But it's probably better meet the girls there and make arrangements for outside of her work hours. And it seems like there are no price standards. Each girl is another negotiation, but in my circumstance it was about as easy going and inexpensive as you could wish for with a quality girl. 3 of my other friends also left with girls. The mongering scene is more difficult in Vietnam in comparison to Thailand. But I think that you can find a more genuine experience with the bar girls there. And the quality of bar girls in Vietnam is much better in my experience.
Stimulus89
11-22-17, 07:07
I had been off the grid for awhile in a 'partnership' (thank god THAT's over!) , but the of the things that most surprised and intrigued me has been the reports of the Pastuer area bars being more "active".
I used to frequent a few them and always dreamed of this scene turning more "Thai" in customer service.
I also used to be a regular at Gemstone when they opened, because of another spinner hottie, the one with the outrageous ass. She always used to brag about how she was a good girl, and would never go out with customers, and she fancied herself very studious and serious. Flash forward a couple months, and she was found making out with various customers while getting absolutely hammered, butterflying around the bar with several drinks going at a time. That was half year ago maybe, before I got pulled out of circulation. And that's who I thought you guys were talking about at first, until the name Khuyen was mentioned.
So recently I re-appeared in there to scope it out. Met the Kh, but my other friend wasn't around. They said she was still working there though, just 'off'. Khuyen however was very frisky and wanted me to play with her butt, so I can see that the reports of 3-holes might not be complete fantasy! There was also a night last week when I went in, and there was very little staff. Only the plain ones were left LOL. Seemed suspicious, that a couple names I mentioned "went out to eat", but later when they returned, seemed ravenous and were eating in the bar. Connect the dots and seems like there was a big short-time party eh?
I also used to be a regular at Gemstone Are you talking about the bar that is on HaiBaTrung street across from Xu? Now there is no bar there called "Gemstone", so just hope someone can clarify the current name, maybe the address.
TerryTagger
11-23-17, 13:21
I had been off the grid for awhile in a 'partnership' (thank god THAT's over!) , but the of the things that most surprised and intrigued me has been the reports of the Pastuer area bars being more "active".
I used to frequent a few them and always dreamed of this scene turning more "Thai" in customer service.
I also used to be a regular at Gemstone when they opened, because of another spinner hottie, the one with the outrageous ass. She always used to brag about how she was a good girl, and would never go out with customers, and she fancied herself very studious and serious. Flash forward a couple months, and she was found making out with various customers while getting absolutely hammered, butterflying around the bar with several drinks going at a time. That was half year ago maybe, before I got pulled out of circulation. And that's who I thought you guys were talking about at first, until the name Khuyen was mentioned.
So recently I re-appeared in there to scope it out. Met the Kh, but my other friend wasn't around. They said she was still working there though, just 'off'. Khuyen however was very frisky and wanted me to play with her butt, so I can see that the reports of 3-holes might not be complete fantasy! There was also a night last week when I went in, and there was very little staff. Only the plain ones were left LOL. Seemed suspicious, that a couple names I mentioned "went out to eat", but later when they returned, seemed ravenous and were eating in the bar. Connect the dots and seems like there was a big short-time party eh?They all use stage names but for example Khuyen goes by the name of Jenny most times, and yes she gets wildly drunk. I always check their ID to ensure no scam or problem will follow, a good thing for all players to do. Best time for ST take out in these places is quiet nights on weekdays, or weekend after closing / day after.
Fredrick SG
11-24-17, 00:49
Are you talking about the bar that is on HaiBaTrung street across from Xu? Now there is no bar there called "Gemstone", so just hope someone can clarify the current name, maybe the address.It's on Hunh Thuc Khang St, Ben Nghe, which is a side street from lower Pasteur in the hostess bar area. Same street as Kims Tavern. There are a few Xu bar around which probably got you confused. There are heaps of bars in the area for a bar hop, so a lot of choices if you get bored with faes in any particular one. Some have fresh faces but most are full of inventory that has been on the scene for a long time, even if they look fresh or cute. HTH.
It's on Hunh Thuc Khang St, Ben Nghe, which is a side street from lower Pasteur in the hostess bar area. Same street as Kims Tavern. There are a few Xu bar around which probably got you confused. There are heaps of bars in the area for a bar hop, so a lot of choices if you get bored with faes in any particular one. Some have fresh faces but most are full of inventory that has been on the scene for a long time, even if they look fresh or cute. HTH.OK of course I knew about some bars in that area before. My mates took me to some but I can't remember the names. The bars they brought me, it didn't seem like girls were as frisky as you talk about, or if they would go out with customer, or make out in the bar, anything like that. Is that some bars only are like that? Other ones not like that?
Wander Luster
11-24-17, 18:00
I've lived here 1. 7+ years. 50 ish. Good money from work and plenty of free time.
Don't get too excited about bars in HCMC! There are some very cute girls, but if you want the deed done same night-- as I do if I'm going to pay- don't bother. If you're getting contact info for another day, why not just use Viber and dates? Best girls for GF are in HCMC, some of worst P4P also in HCMC.
The cute girls that say "after work. " yea, they can be very cute, and maybe $100 or $120, but if it means 5 AM. Why? Because if weekend, guys in bars are buying them drinks until closing and the bar manager will NOT let them go. 85% or so goes to the bar for drinks.
5 AM? Really? I don't like to f* while drunk / buzzed & before sleep and tired, while the neighbors are making breakfast.
WL.
P.S: don't even think about apocalypse now: fake breasts, almost all tired 32+ pros with average or below looks, and charge 1.5 X more than elsewhere. Also, they are so seasoned: they know all the games to play to get your money, quickly.
Irish Mongrel
11-25-17, 10:06
I've l've lived here 1. 7+ years. 50 ish. Good money from work and plenty of free time.
Don't get too excited about bars in HCMC! There are some very cute girls, but if you want the deed done same night-- as I do if I'm going to pay- don't bother. If you're getting contact info for another day, why not just use Viber and dates? Best girls for GF are in HCMC, some of worst p4 p also in hcmc.
Couldn't agree more, plus you forgot to add that once you do start having any sort of contact with them they are then continually looking for extras. Used to be a regular visitor to HCMC and spent 3 years trying to get into the pants of one of the girls. It wasn't until I stopped visiting, and after some heavy persuading she finally decided to meet me in Singapore. From then on it was "where's my little red packet for Tet? "what about my birthday?" and so on. I found that the girls in the better bars where more interested in long term partners than one night stands, or at least somebody who was going to sponsor them long term.
I've l've lived here 1. 7+ years. 50 ish. Good money from work and plenty of free time.
Don't get too excited about bars in HCMC! There are some very cute girls, but if you want the deed done same night-- as I do if I'm going to pay- don't bother. If you're getting contact info for another day, why not just use Viber and dates? Best girls for GF are in HCMC, some of worst p4 p also in hcmc.
The cute girls that say "after work. " yea, they can be very cute, and maybe $100 or $120, but if it means 5 AM. Why? Because if weekend, guys in bars are buying them drinks until closing and the bar manager will NOT let them go. 85% or so goes to the bar for drinks.
5 AM? Really? I don't like to f* while drunk / buzzed & before sleep and tired, while the neighbors are making breakfast..Meet the next day is OK for me. But if I am interested in P4P, then which bars you recommend I can go check out? Really just want to know which bars are like that where girls are frisky, might kiss or something, and also will meet outside. And cute of course. I want to avoid waste time in the bar where they aren't available, are more ladylike and chaste. Example, Number 5 bar, I think in that place the girls don't do anything much. Get them in bed not so easy, maybe only as real GF not as P4P.
I've l've lived here 1. 7+ years. 50 ish. Good money from work and plenty of free time.
Don't get too excited about bars in HCMC! There are some very cute girls, but if you want the deed done same night-- as I do if I'm going to pay- don't bother. If you're getting contact info for another day, why not just use Viber and dates? Best girls for GF are in HCMC, some of worst p4 p also in hcmc.
The cute girls that say "after work. " yea, they can be very cute, and maybe $100 or $120, but if it means 5 AM. Why? Because if weekend, guys in bars are buying them drinks until closing and the bar manager will NOT let them go. 85% or so goes to the bar for drinks..Where would you recommend for same night P4P? I also don't want to wait till the early hours of morning.
Fredrick SG
11-26-17, 02:04
Where would you recommend for same night P4P? I also don't want to wait till the early hours of morning.If you want P4P same night 100% success to give the massage section recommendations a try, bars can be hit and miss. Generally, you need to be a known face, spender and be a likable character to have a chance and put in some groundwork. The bar girls like Jenny have a main sponsor and then several minor sponsors on the side. The main sponsor generally turns a blind eye to the minor sponsors or are simply unaware.
If you want P4P same night 100% success to give the massage section recommendations a try, bars can be hit and miss. Generally, you need to be a known face, spender and be a likable character to have a chance and put in some groundwork..Ah. I was hoping for a take home all night, not just a quick massage visit.
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Irish Mongrel
11-28-17, 10:27
Where would you recommend for same night P4P? I also don't want to wait till the early hours of morning.Ever thought of trying the Tinder route? I'm being totally lazy for a trip next week to Jakarta and setting up girls via Tinder. Set up a false Facebook account with some pictures, pay about 23 bucks for a one month pass on Tinder, set yourself up as being in Ho Chi Minh, and then go flicking. Working girls will tend to contact you, but it is also pretty easy to spot girls who are interested in meeting up.
Had a quick check on my Tinder account and within about 5 minutes picked at least 3 girls who are definitely FL.
Just a thought, but some pre-planning may fill your bed as much as you want!
The links below are from the Jakarta thread care of Steelbaton giving you the basics of how to use Tinder.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2011200&viewfull=1#post2011200.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2011209&viewfull=1#post2011209.
Ever thought of trying the Tinder route? I'm being totally lazy for a trip next week to Jakarta and setting up girls via Tinder. Set up a false Facebook account with some pictures, pay about 23 bucks for a one month pass on Tinder, set yourself up as being in Ho Chi Minh, and then go flicking. Working girls will tend to contact you, but it is also pretty easy to spot girls who are interested in meeting up.
Had a quick check on my Tinder account and within about 5 minutes picked at least 3 girls who are definitely FL.
Just a thought, but some pre-planning may fill your bed as much as you want!
The links below are from the Jakarta thread care of Steelbaton giving you the basics of how to use Tinder.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2011200&viewfull=1#post2011200.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2011209&viewfull=1#post2011209.Wow. Thanks.
Stimulus89
11-30-17, 05:12
Wow. Thanks.Anyone else getting action on this app?
Try it, the pics I'm getting look great. But haven't had the time to try them yet.
AmericanThief
12-07-17, 10:51
Ah. I was hoping for a take home all night, not just a quick massage visit.99% Viet girls don't do all night. They want money for nothing. Some of the FLs at Lush and APO now will do all night, but you have to wait until club hours to get them.
Online girls typically only do one pop ST, having said that, if you made an offer they can't refuse then I'm sure it could be negotiated.
CaliTexMex
12-07-17, 12:43
Met a girl at some bar near the west end of Bui Vien. It was obviously a girlie bar as it was all girls in dresses hanging out in front trying to get you come in for a drink.
It was empty of customers and one girl in particular caught my eye. She was taller for a Vietnamese girl, white skin, with a sweet Chinese face with round eyes and an ass that could crush rocks. She admitted she squatted and worked out regularly. In her tight black dress showing off one leg in high heels she looked an easy 8 out of 10 with minimal makeup. Her tits were average and perky. I asked her how the bar system worked here and she explained how it was similar to Thailand. Come in, have a drink or two with a lady, and possibly bar fine and take her home for sex.
She quickly got a drink, which was stronger than I suspected it would be. We chatted for some time before she explained the barfine was 500000 VND and the girl was 1000000 VND for a short time.
Her English was perfect. She could have passed for Chinese or Korean. I know it was a high price for the local market. With this being my first night in Saigon I did not want to waste time as this bar was only a few minutes walking from my hotel. After a few drinks I was ready to barfine her.
You have to pay everything upfront which made me understandably nervous. After mentioning this to her she agreed and admitted I would have to find out for myself if it was worth it or not.
The owner of the bar is an American guy whom I did not speak with but seemed a decent enough guy, opting to hang out with a friend of his in the back. Given how many negative reports I have read about the scene here, especially in the Bui Vien area, District 1 girls, scams, and problems with hotels and authorities it seemed like a high-risk endeavor.
Regardless, I got a good feeling from her after doing some very light kissing and her holding me. I decided to take a chance and paid 1500000 VND upfront. She took a few minutes before we left. I could see the look on her face when I pulled out that much money and realized how much it was to a Vietnamese girl. My reasoning was simply convenience and comparing to the GoGo or "high-end" bar scene in Thailand was not a bad offer in the least, especially if the girl was good in bed.
Off we went back to my hotel near the park in the Pham Ngu Lao area of the backpacker district.
She mentioned we may have problems with getting into the hotel, either having to bribe or go to a short time hotel. However in her experience over the past several months she said most of these hotels only require an ID from the girl in order to have a guest over for a single male as long as he booked multiple people. Thankfully the men in my hotel accepted her ID with a smile. They would also call to confirm everything was okay when she later, similar to how Thailand or Philippines works. If there is a guest fee I'm assuming they would have asked for it upfront.
After reaching the hotel we went up to the room in order to shower. She played some music as she bathed me and I her. She was playful and not rushed at all. The aircon was bothering her as I like it cold so we shut it off temporarily.
We started by a deep, passionate kissing session while holding each other like lovers. It was slow and like a girlfriend. After a few minutes of this I was rock hard and she was getting wet while rubbing my cock over her pussy while we kissed. I started to finger her from the outside and she was soaking, so I slowly opened her up.
She asked if I wanted to use the condom now. I agreed. She needed help putting it on. She mentioned she would do CBJ but there was no need as I was ready to pound her into tomorrow.
We started with her on top to ease it in. She slowly mounted and squated while bobbing on my cock. She had excellent muscle control and needed no help in milking my cock with her pussy. She eventually got it all the way in and loved being hit in the bottom of her pussy. She would grind and moan as she pierced her pussy.
She got tired so we switched to missionary while staying in her. Pounded her deep for a few minutes, all the while kissing passionately. Then I picked her up and fucked her standing for about 30 seconds. She was wearing my legs out as she is not a spinner so I threw her down and wanted doggy.
Promising to go slow at first she got the groove on. Once she was comfortable she really let me beat it up from the back. It was too much fun. She loved getting her perky tits grabbed while stabbed in the pussy repeatedly. Really loved stuffing her and she returned the favor by moaning and giving as much resistance against the thrust as she could. Milked all the pleasure from pushing her to the limit.
I wanted to be more passionate for finishing as I could tell she was getting worn out. She asked if I could finish soon as her pussy was beat up. I could have kept going no problems. A few more minutes of passionate kissing in missionary for the finish.
It was well worth it and I hope to repeat with her given the time one day. She was a gem. Also showered with me and was not in a rush to get out.
Reception called to confirm everything was in order before giving her the identification back.
It was a good night.
Met a girl at some bar near the west end of Bui Vien. It was obviously a girlie bar as it was all girls in dresses hanging out in front trying to get you come in for a drink.
It was empty of customers and one girl in particular caught my eye. She was taller for a Vietnamese girl, white skin, with a sweet Chinese face with round eyes and an ass that could crush rocks. She admitted she squatted and worked out regularly. In her tight black dress showing off one leg in high heels she looked an easy 8 out of 10 with minimal makeup. Her tits were average and perky. I asked her how the bar system worked here and she explained how it was similar to Thailand. Come in, have a drink or two with a lady, and possibly bar fine and take her home for sex.
She quickly got a drink, which was stronger than I suspected it would be. We chatted for some time before she explained the barfine was 500000 VND and the girl was 1000000 VND for a short time..In my limited experiences in HCMC, that is about as good as your going to get, especially in the Bui Vien area. I had a massage shop girl come to my hotel after paying a 200 K dong fine and with a 1 million Dong fee for her. Got to admit, she was in no hurry and provided excellent and enthusiastic service. I convinced her to return on her own time for a flat 1 million dong which resulted in her often coming by for an entire day and accompanying me on walk about and bus rides while touring HCMC. Of course, multiple pops on a daily basis were often included. She also insisted that I bang some of her friends since they needed Dong also. But I was 48 hours in country and hitting on dozens of massage girls before I bumped into while wandering in the back alley maze area of the Bui Vien Street location. While chatting with resident Westerners that have either retired or are working there, they told me that it is very, very easy to hook up with the girls there once they realize that you are a potential long term customer. For the transient visitor in a hotel, the odds become longer. Thank you for your reports.
AmericanThief
12-16-17, 10:23
It was empty of customers and one girl in particular caught my eye. She was taller for a Vietnamese girl, white skin, with a sweet Chinese face with round eyes and an ass that could crush rocks.
The girl your describing works at 157, but the owner of 159 is from OZ. Sometimes the girls just say 1. 5 million. New the girl the better the service and if I'm thinking of this girl she just started working there in October.
CaliTexMex
01-05-18, 15:47
The girl your describing works at 157, but the owner of 159 is from OZ. Sometimes the girls just say 1. 5 million. New the girl the better the service and if I'm thinking of this girl she just started working there in October.It was well worth the 1000000 VND for her and 500000 VND for the barfine. Considering I was a tourist.
So a quick update on the D1 bar scene. Seems a few of the bars have upped their adding drinks to yr bill game or charging ridiculous prices for fake drinks.
A couple of the girls in Chica have been convincing customers to buy them Cafe XO Patron at 180,000 a shot. Only thing is, it's not a full shot of patron, clearly I could see / smell it was coke. Trinh is the worst culprit (skinny with no breasts) also a lady called Kim with big breasts and a dodgy eye!
'Hangover' (also now the same owner as 'The Pub') has taken to adding additional lady drinks to yr bill by saying, the girl asked if you would buy for her friend (who incidentally never came to drink with me) and you said yes! Bullshit.
Corner Bar seems pretty legit, the girls seem fairly honest, but I have still heard of over inflated bills at end of evening when the customer is well oiled, maybe the cashier / owner is the one pulling the wool.
Friends has lost a lot of its charm. Lam is a great host, but 90% of the staff leave because of her sister Ha. Stuck up rude and horrible to the staff. One girl that has remained is the perpetual gold digger Kim, skinny, short haired. A proper player, adds numerous fake drinks to yr bill, 199% money orientated and playing a stupid NZ guy and others for fools.
Luckily I have only been the victim of their underhand tactics a few times, but there are many less fortunate than me. Be careful, be aware.
I wandered into Gemstone one night recently. It was 8:30 or so, not active yet. One punter in there, only one, sitting at a back side table on a Macbook, just focused on his laptop, but it seemed like he bought all the girls drinks and then completely ignored them to just focus on his laptop. Maybe he wasn't a customer, I don't know. Some cute girls, some not. None were what I'd call a stunner. 3 m seems way too high even for the best ones.
Hey guys,
I'm in Saigon right now and looking for some fun at a hostess bar before everyone leaves for tet.
I'm not really looking for full service, just a hostess bar that offers some kind of booth privacy where I can grope the girl a bit. I went to a couple on Bui Vien but they made me sit at the bar to buy girlie drinks. It felt awkward to try and get handsy with a girl when all the other girls can see you.
Is there any good place for this? Busty girls would be a nice plus. I've been rather unlucky in that department as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!
TerryTagger
02-16-18, 07:28
I wandered into Gemstone one night recently. It was 8:30 or so, not active yet. One punter in there, only one, sitting at a back side table on a Macbook, just focused on his laptop, but it seemed like he bought all the girls drinks and then completely ignored them to just focus on his laptop. Maybe he wasn't a customer, I don't know. Some cute girls, some not. None were what I'd call a stunner. 3 m seems way too high even for the best ones.The punter was probably a primary or secondary sponsor allowing himself to be milked by buying everyone drinks in order to please his shared resource. Seen it at other places regularly.
The punter was probably a primary or secondary sponsor allowing himself to be milked by buying everyone drinks in order to please his shared resource. Seen it at other places regularly.That's mental. If you sponsor a girl, it should be so she doesn't need to work. It's a hostess bar. Absurd to sit there watching her all night in a hostess bar. Her job is to host. But the guy is there cockblocking. What does he do in day time, stand in front of the rollercoaster so they can't go? So this guy is investing his money in cock-blocking.
Let me get this straight, the girl with the great butt is a mother? And wants 3 million for her services?
TerryTagger
02-21-18, 04:07
That's mental. If you sponsor a girl, it should be so she doesn't need to work. It's a hostess bar. Absurd to sit there watching her all night in a hostess bar. Her job is to host. But the guy is there cockblocking. What does he do in day time, stand in front of the rollercoaster so they can't go? So this guy is investing his money in cock-blocking.
Let me get this straight, the girl with the great butt is a mother? And wants 3 million for her services?An old quote comes to mind, 'you can take a girl out of a bar but never take the bar out of a girl' or something similar. Sponsors really need to understand that they are holding a community share, not exclusive rights, and that is a concept ingrained in this communist country. Every hostess bar is the same, there are absolutely no exceptions, it all depends on the $ unless you are a complete ass wipe, then the $ amount increases.
NguyetLang
02-21-18, 22:58
I wandered into Gemstone one night recently. It was 8:30 or so, not active yet. One punter in there, only one, sitting at a back side table on a Macbook, just focused on his laptop, but it seemed like he bought all the girls drinks and then completely ignored them to just focus on his laptop. Maybe he wasn't a customer, I don't know. Some cute girls, some not. None were what I'd call a stunner. 3 m seems way too high even for the best ones.He may be a manager type, or even a photographer / webmaster for the girls. His job includes managing the girls' pictures on the web (I. E. Photoshop and touch-up) as well as writing "fake news" positive reviews for the girl's service on the web. Of course, he has to be busy and will buy drinks for his girls, who could be his employees (if he is a manager) or his customers (if he is a photographer).
If you really know.
Cheers,
Don't these women ever shave their snatches.
Geneva Guy
02-22-18, 21:49
Don't these women ever shave their snatches.My experience with Vn women is that "normal" girls don't shave. Have a 25 year old that I see and its a forest (I have posted pics of this in the "other area" Vn section). Talking to a horny lady in hanoi now, "weak" husband that wants someone to eat her and fuck her brains out. Told me "I never shave". Well. If its clean smelling, that's ok with me for a change of pace hehheheeh.
Don't you love girls that cheat on their husbands? Both I mention are married with these "weak" husbands as they describe them.
GG.
NguyetLang
02-25-18, 02:38
Don't these women ever shave their snatches.It never hurt to ask. My LTR in Hanoi is now keeping it clean for me because I asked.
Her husband got a surprise and became inquisitive. But she told him it was for his benefits.
Everything is fine.
So it looks like some of the bars in the D1 Bitexco area have upped their game and level of naughtiness.
Allegedly Voodoo and The Corner now offer FS upstairs for 2 mill. Any reliable info on this. Which girls are game?
An old quote comes to mind, 'you can take a girl out of a bar but never take the bar out of a girl' or something similar. Sponsors really need to understand that they are holding a community share, not exclusive rights, and that is a concept ingrained in this communist country. Every hostess bar is the same, there are absolutely no exceptions, it all depends on the $ unless you are a complete ass wipe, then the $ amount increases.So if I'm at Gemstone and hope to meet girl X but she's buried in her facebook on iphone with drink, and girl Q and are (both not attractive) are sticking themselves to me without invitation, how do I get to talk to girl X? In bars like this in the past, I was able to just go in and call over the one I wanted via mamasan. In this place it feels like a challenge to get to talk to the one you want to meet.
NguyetLang
03-01-18, 00:34
So if I'm at Gemstone and hope to meet girl X but she's buried in her facebook on iphone with drink, and girl Q and are (both not attractive) are sticking themselves to me without invitation, how do I get to talk to girl X? In bars like this in the past, I was able to just go in and call over the one I wanted via mamasan. In this place it feels like a challenge to get to talk to the one you want to meet.Buy the Q (not attractive) girl a drink and asked her to call over girl X (attractive to you). They both don't mind since it is normal in their trades. They may play with you a bit by making you feel bad about girl Q, but in the end, they will go along. Just say "I will buy you a drink if you can call X to come over here. ".
Good luck.
Buy the Q (not attractive) girl a drink and asked her to call over girl X (attractive to you). They both don't mind since it is normal in their trades. They may play with you a bit by making you feel bad about girl Q, but in the end, they will go along. Just say "I will buy you a drink if you can call X to come over here. "
Good luck.Great advice, thank you. It seems so obvious and simple, but I sat there frustrated and didn't do anything smart like that.
I wandered into Gemstone one night recently. It was 8:30 or so, not active yet. One punter in there, only one, sitting at a back side table on a Macbook, just focused on his laptop, but it seemed like he bought all the girls drinks and then completely ignored them to just focus on his laptop. Maybe he wasn't a customer, I don't know. Some cute girls, some not. None were what I'd call a stunner. 3 m seems way too high even for the best ones.Sounds like the guy that I've seen multiple times at Saigon Retro on Ho Tung Mau. Sits at the end of the bar on his laptop. Oddly, around the same time of night. I will be going back in a month or so. Will check.
Asian Lover Oz
03-06-18, 09:11
Didn't have a lot of luck with the Bui Vien massage places this year. No gems uncovered and a lot of waste of time / money. Possibly still impacted by the end of Tet and limited supply.
So had to resort to taking a girl from Dalat bar back to the apartment but had to pay the premium of $500 k bar fine and $2 M for the girl.
Absolutely perfect spinner body which is really what sold me.
Back in the room she was sort of cold and unresponsive and when I finally tried to enter I could only go half way in she was that tight.
Her pussy was clearly infected with something it smelt like a bucket of prawns left out in the Aussie sun for a week, so I quickly finished and let her go.
TerryTagger
03-07-18, 01:15
Great advice, thank you. It seems so obvious and simple, but I sat there frustrated and didn't do anything smart like that.In that place plus thanks and others I've seen guys simply walk up and grab their pussy or breast to get attention. I personally never tried that, but seen it done regularly without adverse reaction. Groping is the go in some hostess bars.
Wander Luster
03-10-18, 20:32
So it looks like some of the bars in the D1 Bitexco area have upped their game and level of naughtiness.
Allegedly Voodoo and The Corner now offer FS upstairs for 2 mill. Any reliable info on this. Which girls are game?Nope. Was there tonight. Asked about the upstairs. She said "for party of 4 or more people" and that's all. And I live here so I know how to ask and get a real answer.
Nope. Was there tonight. Asked about the upstairs. She said "for party of 4 or more people" and that's all. And I live here so I know how to ask and get a real answer.Correct Wander Luster, I asked as well. As for corner bar upstairs, it's a billiard room and nothing much is happening, too bad!
Nope. Was there tonight. Asked about the upstairs. She said "for party of 4 or more people" and that's all. And I live here so I know how to ask and get a real answer.Wander Luster, Someone you know is trying to send you a message but he said your inbox is full.
Correct Wander Luster, I asked as well. As for corner bar upstairs, it's a billiard room and nothing much is happening, too bad!Doesn't seem to exist anymore either due to ownership or staff change, but 3-4 years ago, fwiw, Saigon Retro offered at least you could go upstairs with a girl (service and price negotiable). I was offered this at least twice, but declined because they said no aircon upstairs, which is important to me. Ha.
SigkaPouro
03-15-18, 18:41
Hello fellow mongers!
I am currently in Bali and will move to Japan for about a month, but after that I want to go somewhere just to have sex (preferably anal sex) and relax. Looking for any specific recommendations / links / numbers you have picked up in the regard. Is it worth coming to Ho Chi Minh City?
Thanks in advance.
Hello fellow mongers!
I am currently in Bali and will move to Japan for about a month, but after that I want to go somewhere just to have sex (preferably anal sex) and relax. Looking for any specific recommendations / links / numbers you have picked up in the regard. Is it worth coming to Ho Chi Minh City?
Thanks in advance.I love Saigon, and the girls there. If you are specifically looking for girls that will provide anal, and have some relaxation time; then I would not come to Vietnam for that. You will be doing a lot of work to dig up girls that will provide that service. It's a standard to provide anal in particular oily shops in Bangkok. I would suggest to come to Bangkok for what you are seeking. The shops that provide girls with A+ service are extensively documented on ISG Thailand forums.
Didn't have a lot of luck with the Bui Vien massage places this year. No gems uncovered and a lot of waste of time / money. Possibly still impacted by the end of Tet and limited supply.
So had to resort to taking a girl from Dalat bar back to the apartment but had to pay the premium of $500 k bar fine and $2 M for the girl.
Absolutely perfect spinner body which is really what sold me.
Back in the room she was sort of cold and unresponsive and when I finally tried to enter I could only go half way in she was that tight.
Her pussy was clearly infected with something it smelt like a bucket of prawns left out in the Aussie sun for a week, so I quickly finished and let her go.You guys are absolute experts in wasting money.
SigkaPouro
03-28-18, 14:00
I love Saigon, and the girls there. If you are specifically looking for girls that will provide anal, and have some relaxation time; then I would not come to Vietnam for that. You will be doing a lot of work to dig up girls that will provide that service. It's a standard to provide anal in particular oily shops in Bangkok. I would suggest to come to Bangkok for what you are seeking. The shops that provide girls with A+ service are extensively documented on ISG Thailand forums.Thank you for pointing me towards the right direction.
Wander Luster
03-31-18, 16:07
Wander Luster, Someone you know is trying to send you a message but he said your inbox is full.Sorry, I emptied it. (.
Arn Poddict
04-02-18, 11:29
P.S: don't even think about apocalypse now: fake breasts, almost all tired 32+ pros with average or below looks, and charge 1.5 X more than elsewhere. Also, they are so seasoned: they know all the games to play to get your money, quickly.The most shameless price quote I got a few weeks back from a 30+ pro at Apo was 7,5 Million, long time. I could not believe my ears.
There were only a few cute 25 year old girls, the rest were 30+ jaded hookers.
Bellpepper
04-07-18, 08:34
A girl had tried to get me in to the place many times "at least for a beer". One night after dinner I did so. I am probably a bit slow because I did not realize it was a girlie bar. The sign said "restaurant and caf" and she did not look like a typical bar girl. Her appearance was plain but I liked her.
She took me inside where there were no other customers and we had a very good time together. There was a lot of kissing and caressing and touching my (and hers) private parts. Another girl joined later.
After quite long time I took the two girls to a short time hotel for two hours. The girls were not beautiful but had a very good attitude and was really eager to make me satisfied. Actually I fell a sleep for a short time and was awakened by the two girls making an effort to make come one more time (which succeded).
If you come from North East, Bernie's bar is almost at the end of Bui Vien, on the left side. It can be hard to see the sign because of food sellers on the pavement.
SaswatLove
04-08-18, 19:06
Hi to all brothers.
I am coming from India for a small trip.
I will be staying in Hanoi for 5 days hotel not yet finalized, coming for a business trip but will be available for Saturday and Sunday.
Can anyone help me in giving some feedback on GFE hotel and what are the options to monger here.
Of course safety and security will be my first concern.
Any senior here can guide me, thanks in advance for your support. My PM is active.
LewisCarrol
04-13-18, 12:54
Dear Mongers,
I will be visiting HCMC for 4 days towards the end of the month. Just wanted to check how's the bar scene at HCMC? I am sure not at level of Pattaya and bkk. But can you suggest any sure shot bars where I can hang out and pick the girls for the night?
Thanks in advance friends.
Safe Mongering,
LC.
JeremiahSurd
04-15-18, 21:26
Hello fellow mongers!
I am currently in Bali and will move to Japan for about a month, but after that I want to go somewhere just to have sex (preferably anal sex) and relax. Looking for any specific recommendations / links / numbers you have picked up in the regard. Is it worth coming to Ho Chi Minh City?
Thanks in advance.Only for sex, then come to Nairobi!
Dear Mongers,
I will be visiting HCMC for 4 days towards the end of the month. Just wanted to check how's the bar scene at HCMC? I am sure not at level of Pattaya and bkk. But can you suggest any sure shot bars where I can hang out and pick the girls for the night?
Thanks in advance friends.
Safe Mongering,
LC.There are a few bars on Pasteur St where the girls are playful and offer takeaway. Chica, Corner Bar and Gemstone have some definite's. I was told by an experienced expat that there is a new girl that just started work in The Bell, her name is Huynh or maybe Huyen. She is small bodied, cute and rumour has it she offers take away FS for 2 mill. I haven't been brave enough to ask her yet. Would love to hear from anyone that's tried and succeeded.
There are a few bars on Pasteur St where the girls are playful and offer takeaway. Chica, Corner Bar and Gemstone have some definite's. I was told by an experienced expat that there is a new girl that just started work in The Bell, her name is Huynh or maybe Huyen. She is small bodied, cute and rumour has it she offers take away FS for 2 mill. I haven't been brave enough to ask her yet. Would love to hear from anyone that's tried and succeeded.I would have to agree with Nomes there are a few bars on Pasteur that have girls offering services, will have to check out The Bell Bar next time. (although 2 m is a bit much even for LT with GFE) Can also at Fox bar, small girl with nice size boobs, always wears red lipstick, super playful, GFE. Her name is Huong always up for a good time after her shift. I think she has a sponsor now that hangs at the bar. So might want to pay it cool. But buy a few drinks and you will get the hint pretty quick if you play it right, she also said her friend is up for it too. Bigger boobs and a few tatts.
new girl that just started work in The Bell, her name is Huynh or maybe Huyen. She is small bodied, cute and rumour has it she offers take away FS for 2 mill.Update on the above. I ventured into The Bell around 9 pm a few nights ago, it was a party night. Managed to get chatting with Huynh, she calls herself Noi, small body, petite features, cute faced. Bought her a few lady drinks and then suggested I might like to meet her after work, the conversation got a bit suggestive, it was clear from her laughter and naughty looks that she is up for a good time. She says she finishes at 2 am and she is only available on Monday or Tuesday after work. She told me if I wanted to meet her I had to make the arrangement before 11 pm, sms her the address of where to meet and then wait for her. Don't come to the bar waiting for her to leave at 2 am because she wants to be discrete. The damage would be 1 mill for an hour or 2 mill for an overnight.
Update on the above. I ventured into The Bell around 9 pm a few nights ago, it was a party night. Managed to get chatting with Huynh, she calls herself Noi, small body, petite features, cute faced. Bought her a few lady drinks and then suggested I might like to meet her after work, the conversation got a bit suggestive, it was clear from her laughter and naughty looks that she is up for a good time. She says she finishes at 2 am and she is only available on Monday or Tuesday after work. She told me if I wanted to meet her I had to make the arrangement before 11 pm, sms her the address of where to meet and then wait for her. Don't come to the bar waiting for her to leave at 2 am because she wants to be discrete. The damage would be 1 mill for an hour or 2 mill for an overnight.And then she doesn't show. You call her out on it the next time, and she says, "some customers stay late, and boss say I cannot leave at 2 am" .
And then she doesn't show. You call her out on it the next time, and she says, "some customers stay late, and boss say I cannot leave at 2 am".I would always prefer to meet up daytime before she goes to work. At 3 am I'm too knackers and or pissed to get started with a girl. In my experience, the girls usually do show up and don't flake but I did have that happen too, just not often.
I would always prefer to meet up daytime before she goes to work. At 3 am I'm too knackers and or pissed to get started with a girl. In my experience, the girls usually do show up and don't flake but I did have that happen too, just not often.Definitely agree on the daytime idea, at least for myself. In fact, besides some of the other phone apps, there are a couple of websites that specifically talk about "daygame", but it seems oriented around picking up women at malls and such.
Definitely agree on the daytime idea, at least for myself. In fact, besides some of the other phone apps, there are a couple of websites that specifically talk about "daygame", but it seems oriented around picking up women at malls and such.Confirmed, most of the girls from Pasteur area would meet you for an afternoon delight if she feels comfortable with you in the bar but please don't overpay, 1 to 1.5 million is more than enough for a ST.
UpAllHours
05-10-18, 19:03
New to the scene in HCMC, been here a couple of times but never had the time to go out and really explore or monger. Met up with some locals at the a few bars named in the thread, but I was wondering what the recommendation is for meeting young drunk tourist types down for a good time?
Thanks!
Wow. So you joined ISG just to post this comment. I sense something a miss here. First of all, no one will believe such a stupid post. Secondly, I've never been to a go go bar in Thailand or any other country where women don't continue to drink when they are drunk to make money from Lady drinks. Utterly ridiculous post and an obvious attempt to spread bad rumours about one bar that maybe no one here has even heard of before.If I recall correctly, Hangover is next to M52, in between Phatty and M52.
'Little Tokyo' on Ngô Văand andăm street and LE Thanh Ton is an area where you can find many Japanese and Korean KTV's. The laddies there are likely to offer sex, but still don't assume it is 100% going to happen. Kissing, HJ, BJ is more likely. Anything there will easily cost 2 mil vn dong and up.
Some good KTV places in Ho Chi Minh City are:
Kingdom Karaoke: 67-69 Phạm Viết Chánh, District 1 (It is similar to King, but the prices are slightly more reasonable).
Avatar Karaoke 63- 65 Phạm Viết Chánh, Nguyễand seeư Trinh Ward, District 1.
Mermaid 15/6 Thi Sac.
Cherry Club 8 A / A11 Thai Van Lung, Ben Nghe, Q1.
MGM 82 Võ Thị Sáyou, Tâand Đ7883;nh, Quậand 1 (FYou 467 Sư Vạand Hạnh, District 10 (A great place for party, most of its customers are Vietnamese but you have a good number of songs in English. The prices are reasonable.).
Stocking KTV 78 Nam Ky Khoi Nghia, District 1 (Korean style hostest bar; $100 for private room + tips, etc).
King Karaoke 31-33 Hai Ba Trung, beếand Nghé Ward, District 1 (http://kingkaraoke.vn/haibatrung/; there is a menu online which has affordable room rates). I don't know if they will charge foreigners a different rate LOL. The service top-notch. Their VIP rooms can cost VND800,000 per hour, not including drinks. If you go to one place, I would recommend this place. Don't expect FS; but money talks, so who knows.
http://www.vnanchoi.com/forum/threads/tong-hop-cac-tu-diem-an-choi-cho-ae-tham-khao.8443/
In Vietnamese. Let me know if you would like anything translated.
http://www.vnanchoi.com/forum/threads/tong-hop-cac-tu-diem-an-choi-cho-ae-tham-khao.8443/
In Vietnamese. Let me know if you would like anything translated.This will keep me busy.
Wow. So you joined ISG just to post this comment. I sense something a miss here. First of all, no one will believe such a stupid post. Secondly, I've never been to a go go bar in Thailand or any other country where women don't continue to drink when they are drunk to make money from Lady drinks. Utterly ridiculous post and an obvious attempt to spread bad rumours about one bar that maybe no one here has even heard of before.Hahahaha up to you to believe or not.
http://www.vnanchoi.com/forum/threads/tong-hop-cac-tu-diem-an-choi-cho-ae-tham-khao.8443/
In Vietnamese. Let me know if you would like anything translated.Hi Bleble,
I'm coming over Saigon on July for my bachelors party with 10 of my guy friends.
We need your help to translate some info from local vietnamese mongers that can lead us to.
Sexy Om or Caphe Om for day time fun.
Current Girly Bar we can have fun with nice looking girls.
Karaoke you already translate for us, but you are welcome to join us as a thank you!
Massage Spa the locals cam recommend?
Thanks bro!
Hi Bleble,
I'm coming over Saigon on July for my bachelors party with 10 of my guy friends.
We need your help to translate some info from local vietnamese mongers that can lead us to.
Sexy Om or Caphe Om for day time fun.
Current Girly Bar we can have fun with nice looking girls.
Karaoke you already translate for us, but you are welcome to join us as a thank you!
Massage Spa the locals cam recommend?
Thanks bro!I would have loved to join in with you guys. However I'm away on a business trip outside of VN for a while.
Guys,
Spread the word. Some of the bars in D1 around Pasteur street have been up to their old tricks again.
Xu bar near Navy has been ripping off customers during the world cup, preying on guys who are a little drunk and adding ridiculous numbers of lady drinks to the bill. Xu has been employing this tactic for years so be warned if you go near any of the bars operated by her. Xu, Cloud 9.
Legends Bar and My Place owned by another of the unsavory ladies who believe that racking up customers bills to compensate for their general emptiness is acceptable.
Kims Tavern has ripped customers off for years, but now has another location to prey on customers. Wild Cats. Part owned by Kim and two of her protege's (ex staff at Kim's).
Hangover and The Pub part owned by Han are two places to be careful of yr wallets. Inflated drink prices as the night gets later and adding ficticious lady drinks to yr bill. Leave a bitter taste in yr mouth.
Expats in HCMC, we should all be getting together spreading the word and putting these mercenary, cheating bitches out of business. If you ask to see the CCTV footage you will just get a shit load of excuses (Xu is the worst for this, she is so full of lies) half the time the cameras are not on.
Take care out there.
What happened to Apo? I took a friend there last week and was incredibly surprised by the lack of talent. Not just quality-wise, but simply numbers. The place was reasonably full, but mainly locals partying and expat guys. Very, very few WGs and the ones there weren't that great.
Doc.
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