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Admin
07-24-07, 00:37
Thread Starter.

Bingotwoballs
08-01-07, 12:23
Hi guys!

Anything going on at Club Noblesse at the Metropole Hotel?

Playsafe
08-07-07, 17:58
This "Bars & Clubs" thread has been set up for two weeks now, but none is listed here yet. I will start & hope those who know other clubs well will do the same.

Apocalypse Now, the locals refer to it as "Apo" located on Thi Sach St. Dist. 1. stays open until 2-3AM. It's run by the son of a close associates of the executed mob boss, Nam Cam. This is a good place for those who do not have a lot of time for hunting, & it's one of the most popular clubs, if not the most popular, for the expats to hang out in Saigon.

For westerners, there is no cover charge. For the non regular locals, there is a cover charge of 50k/70k. As you walk in, on your left side, there is a pool table & a bar. On your right, there is a small dance floor, some tables, chairs & DJs. In the open backyard, there is a grill selling hot sandwiches & some tables & chairs for you to sit & chat with the beautiful women there. The women's restroom on the left & men's on the right. The bartenders are usually women & the waitpersons are usually men.

Although 85% of women there are freelancers, you must be polite & discreet when approaching them. Some of the girls go there just to dance & their boyfriends will show up later. Depends on the qualities, prices range from $50-$100 ST. Not sure about LT. Heineken cost about 50K each. If you want to play pool, be sure to put your name on the black board & wait for your turn. It costs 10k per game if you lose.

If you cause any troubles there, you WILL get thrown out & possibly beat up by the security guards. So just stay cool & have fun.

Have fun hunting!

OzzieSuds
08-08-07, 12:58
There is a bunch of older reports on bars and Clubs in HCMC under the General Info thread so look there if you need info for now.

As time goes by the bars and clubs information and new news will gather here.

Not heard of Club Noblesse so can't comment.

Saigon Daze
08-09-07, 00:47
Hi guys!

Anything going on at Club Noblesse at the Metropole Hotel?It closed at least a year ago. Perhaps it's reopened, but haven't been there. Massage was also closed when I went there 6 weeks ago.

Columpuss
08-09-07, 03:40
noblesse is a music and karaoke bar with many viets. Somtimes there are foreign guests at the hotel patronize there. You can request for a hostess to keep you company. There are about 10 there, but any extra "works" she might do after hours is all up to the girls.

DirtyOldMan
11-08-07, 04:12
Being in Saigon at the present time, I was lucky enough to find a bar called "Riveside something". There is a billard and a bunch of good girls from 7 pm every day. It is located on the left side of "Bui Vien" by the end of the street where an other street joins on the right. Enjoy the visit.

OzzieSuds
11-08-07, 13:38
Being in Saigon at the present time, I was lucky enough to find a bar called "Riveside something". There is a billard and a bunch of good girls from 7 pm every day. It is located on the left side of "Bui Vien" by the end of the street where an other street joins on the right. Enjoy the visit.

I found Bui Vien on the map - it is over to the SW of the backpacker area. Is this a bar similar to the Hai Bai Trung bars but a little less sales pressure?

El Frances
11-08-07, 22:01
[QUOTE=Playsafe]
Although 85% of women there are freelancers, you must be polite & discreet when approaching them. Some of the girls go there just to dance & their boyfriends will show up later. Depends on the qualities, prices range from $50-$100 ST. Not sure about LT.

100& ST in vietnam (even in HCMC) is for sure a price for supposed suckers (no offense meant, but sometimes it's necessary to make things clear)!
cheers!

Blunderer
11-08-07, 23:20
100& ST in vietnam (even in HCMC) is for sure a price for supposed suckers (no offense meant, but sometimes it's necessary to make things clear)!
cheers!

Not all of us have the resources, contacts or knowledge that you do. Most of us simply struggle by and try and get the best quality we can for the lowest price. Pointing out someone is paying too much is helpful. More helpful still is sharing the resources, contacts or knowledge that you have, indicating in your opinion a fair price should be and how one would go about attaining said price.

When you do offer up this bounty of information, please be mindful that most guys don't have days or even hours to go looking. They want to go somewhere reliable with good quality, and they want to be able to go there without having to hunt all night because they've come from meetings during the day and have meetings in the morning. They will probably also want girls who speak at least a modicum of English. If they are lucky they'll have a day or 2 to spare before they depart - even then, it is hardly time to do proper research.

Yours,

Another Sucker

DirtyOldMan
11-09-07, 04:40
I found Bui Vien on the map - it is over to the SW of the backpacker area. Is this a bar similar to the Hai Bai Trung bars but a little less sales pressure?It is an open bar, and the pressure is very low. The availability is almost immediate and the prices may be discussed; you can get a whole night for 50 dollars, but maybe lower the price if you are young and pretty.

Dirty Old man

DirtyOldMan
11-09-07, 04:45
I found Bui Vien on the map - it is over to the SW of the backpacker area. Is this a bar similar to the Hai Bai Trung bars but a little less sales pressure?Most of the girls speak at least a little bit of English.

OzzieSuds
11-09-07, 21:45
Not all of us have the resources, contacts or knowledge that you do. Most of us simply struggle by and try and get the best quality we can for the lowest price. Pointing out someone is paying too much is helpful. More helpful still is sharing the resources, contacts or knowledge that you have, indicating in your opinion a fair price should be and how one would go about attaining said price.

When you do offer up this bounty of information, please be mindful that most guys don't have days or even hours to go looking. They want to go somewhere reliable with good quality, and they want to be able to go there without having to hunt all night because they've come from meetings during the day and have meetings in the morning. They will probably also want girls who speak at least a modicum of English. If they are lucky they'll have a day or 2 to spare before they depart - even then, it is hardly time to do proper research.

Yours,

Another Sucker

The key to this issue is negotiation and the key to negotiation is establishing a position of strength. You need to confidently let them know that you are aware that the going rate is VND1 mil for all night and that you are willing to move on if they are not prepared to cut a deal near that. If you are there for 2 days tell them a few days as knowing you have limited time gives them more strength.

Treat this negotiation as part of the game - and smile and enjoy it!

DirtyOldMan
11-10-07, 06:32
Most of the girls speak at least a little bit of English.
Bar Rive's.

The manager is in her thirties and pretty (I do not know if she goes fucking). Her sister is real pretty, she is 24/26 and goes fucking).

The rate of drinks vary depending on the time ( nobody before 7 pm) and the temper of the managing team. It is not necessary to spend a lot of money drinking before concluding an agreement, unless you like it.

Gossip.

It is very close to the market Ben Thanh, and you can reach it walking within 3 minutes.

The charge is 90 000 VND for entrance and a drink.

At 9:00, the whole management was in place ... and me. Nobody else. The music was horribly loud.

At 10:30, when I came back, there was the crowd described by "Tricky Richard", and contacts easy to establish.

Saigon Daze
11-12-07, 11:33
[QUOTE=Playsafe]Although 85% of women there are freelancers, you must be polite & discreet when approaching them. Some of the girls go there just to dance & their boyfriends will show up later.You must have been the guy trying to pick up on my wife when she was there dancing with some friends.

El Frances
11-12-07, 22:23
Not all of us have the resources, contacts or knowledge that you do. Most of us simply struggle by and try and get the best quality we can for the lowest price. Pointing out someone is paying too much is helpful. More helpful still is sharing the resources, contacts or knowledge that you have, indicating in your opinion a fair price should be and how one would go about attaining said price.

When you do offer up this bounty of information, please be mindful that most guys don't have days or even hours to go looking. They want to go somewhere reliable with good quality, and they want to be able to go there without having to hunt all night because they've come from meetings during the day and have meetings in the morning. They will probably also want girls who speak at least a modicum of English. If they are lucky they'll have a day or 2 to spare before they depart - even then, it is hardly time to do proper research.

Yours,

Another Sucker

Sorry, but the price that was mentioned was 100 $ ST! I was not talking about the price level in some unknown place where only vietnamese people usually go. I was talking about the price level in places that are patronized by foreigners, such as Apocalypse. 100$ LT is already expensive. Even for a lazy businessman, 100 $ ST is more than overpaid in Apocalypse.

Gangles
12-01-07, 13:00
Had a chance to check out a few bars in Saigon, however I had the gf in tow, so no opportunity to formally check out the action:

Thiem Loc: had a good selection of girls, a decent pool table, but the staff were a bit slow in service.

35 Bar: a bunch of good looking girls, showing a bit more tit than Thiem Loc, and in general, the girls had more to show. Got a good fun game of pool going, and the girls joined in with gusto. Not pushy, just laid back and easy. The bar itself was really bare, no wall decorations, not even a decent coat of paint.

Ball44
12-02-07, 16:31
An update on Apocolypse. It now has an upstairs with different music, usually rock, while downstairs plays hip/hop dance music. I have to agree with an earlier poster, most girls there are working, but there are also girlfriends of expats, etc. there, so just be descrete. If she doesn't seem interested move on.

Apocolypse is open till 2-3 on Friday and Saturdays. After that time Go2 and AlleyBoo would be your only options. Go2 is a 24 hour establishment. AlleyBoo closes around 4-5. Both of these bars are in the Pham Ngu Lao area (backpacker area labeled on most tourist maps).

Be safe and happy hunting.

JayHighFive
12-02-07, 17:15
Guys,

I will be staying at the New World Hotel can anyone tell me if there are good hobbing near there. I don't knw much about the city and have limited to so I appricate any help. Also how much should I expect to pay?

Jay

Ajashi
12-05-07, 07:16
On Cao Ba Quat admittedly is probably one of the very unique spots but also highly frequented by Tourists and fellow mongers. For sure it is nice to see all these Natural big Boobs lingering around in the uniforms without bras and as they mostly have big nips at least something to look at even they are not smiling so much in average and if you're not lucky. Lucky? Why lucky? Yes, for those who don't know there is the ground floor for the normal activities, sitting with the girls, touchiung and so on, even also there playing a decent pool and the upstairs part with 2 pool rooms (small & Big). On the way you will typically notice already 15 girls sitting or sleeping on the stairs waiting for more customers and once your up the scheme starts quickly. They want to play pool and of course they are very bad (why should they be any good if they do that day by day) so the very good deal is that if they win they get 100k if you win they loose all their cloth, so far so fine. Recently I have to admit I was there with several other guys and for now a total of 15 observed games not even one time a guy won: Oh we are only Lucky! And please give us more lady drink (a sip of Bailey for 50k and if your playing a bit better the game will last at least 4 drinks long). Went there before and the ladies lost at least every 2nd game but seems they are not much business oriented these days and when I proposed 2 ladies play together and I pay 100k to the winner they refused and started getting nasty and dragging for more drinks. So if you're not a regular pool player. I think I'd advice you pass or join some of the better players to get a part of the cake. Oh and sure after all this they still wait for their TIP (wow). In case you dare 2 as they have nice ones and real nice bodies, after 7 lady drinks (or equal in $) the barfine is deemed to be done and they are happy to go with you still expecting 1 Mio but negotiable

Happy (smiling) hunting

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Alwayshard45
04-03-08, 09:44
So a few nights ago I went down to the HBT bars for the first time. Walked into 49 and was instantly escorted to a seat and a girl was standing there between my legs asking me what I wanted to drink and if I wanted to play pool. I really just wanted to relax for atleast 30 seconds while I cool off, but not possible here. Girl was about a 7 with a nice rack but her face had much room for improvement. She wasnt really what I was looking for so I left after 1 beer and 1 LD. Went to 51. Found a nice girl, nice rack, good face and pretty nice. Played a couple of games of pool, won both times and got to see her naked both times. Funny thing is I am pretty bad at pool. At 51 I had 5 beers, bought 6 LDs and it was near time to go home. Now 1:30am. The girl said if I wanted to go home it was a 400k bar fine, plus her fee of 1mil, plus my 5 beers and 6 LDs. pFFFF. wow. Yeah right! She must have thought was drunk out of my mind or something. I pretty much just laughed and said she was crazy.

Then she said "ok. you must know more about vietnam. So bar fine is 100k, plus drinks, and you still pay me 1mil." I kindly declined. I said to her in a kind way..."you're hot, but not that hot". Not sure if she completely understood. She stood firm on her pricing so I left.

Saw her outside a few minutes later walking with some friends. I came up to here and asked her, now she isnt at the bar, no bar fines ect. how much you want now. ST. She said 1.2mil. WhAT! now she wants more. She was pretty much just trying to see how much id give her. I was pretty fed up so I left.

Went to Pham Ngo Lao to the (what seems to be the only bar open late) Saigon Bar just off PNL. Stayed there til about 4:00am when I saw a group of girls hanging outside. I assume they didnt find anything at the discos and were hoping for one last chance to meetup. I went out, found an 8 with huge tits yet real slim. Started talking with her, told her i wanted her to come back to my place she said she wanted to. I went back in, finished my beer then went back out. Asked her how much she said 100 USD, to begin with and I negotiated her down to 500k ST. Since it was so late and she was sure to not find much else.

Came back to my place (not a hotel), started with us both taking showers and her making sure I am real clean. Went to the bed and she started with a good BBBJ that was real good. Went all the way down and had good technique. Put the rubber on, and did multiple positions. Was quite good. Finished with me blowing my load all over her tits and face. She went into the bathroom to clean up, when she came out I had her 500k ready, she said thanks and gave me her number so we can meet up again and that was that. Everything I was looking for at a good price.

The night started out not so good, but ended up pretty well. I didnt get any pics, which I wish I would have remembered. The girl I took home was about an 8 in her mid to late 20s.

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Ball44
04-11-08, 13:44
Alleyboo has closed. Rumors say that it was because of drug dealing out of it? Who knows, but they are closed and apparently aren't opening again. There are still several smaller bars around the area to troll, but generally Saigon Bar is your best bet later at night. Also the alley that runs next to Long Phi restaurant. Updated, Go2 is open again as of last night April 11th. They had been closed for about 3 weeks until last night. Seemed business as usual.

Happy Hunting.

Viet1
04-24-08, 06:40
On a trip to HCMC last year I went marched into a bar by 3 sexy girls and all sat with me and I bought the first round of drinks. I liked the look of one of the girls and asked the rest to leave, which they did after all having a quick tweak of my equipment (love Vietnam). Next minute the mamasan comes up and asks me to take one of her new girls. She is young and pretty and new from the country and it is her first time in HCMC and she has no experience. So I tell her I will have a look. She brings her over and she is so very cute but I act a little disinterested. She was very shy and could speak zero English and was pushed on to my lap. Because she couldn; t really say anything we sort of just looked at each other. I then slipped my hands up under her little mini skirt and she jumped with a fright but did not stop me. Next minute the boss walks over and says to me she has a deal for me. Told me if I take the new girl to a st hotel she will charge no bar fine, nothing for the drinks and only 50 USD for the girl. I said that she had a deal.

So we get to the hotel, she strips and sort of hides behind a towel but I encouraged her to drop it and away we went. She was awesome and so damn cute. I could have done 3 times I think (she was sooo hot). But she just wanted to hug and kiss me afterwards. We then get the cab back to drop me off at my hotel and she starts speaking and the cab driver starts laughing and translates to me that she wants to marry me and is in love and wants me to take her away from the bar. I felt sort of sorry for her. The driver told me not to worry and to just hop out of the cab and keep going and that she will get over it all.

Sort of sad but boy was she HOT, so sexy and so cute and not to mention sooooo tight. I can still remember the feeling, awesome!

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OzzieSuds
04-24-08, 08:44
On a trip to HCMC last year I went marched into a bar by 3 sexy girls and all sat with me and I bought the first round of drinks. I liked the look of one of the girls and asked the rest to leave, which they did after all having a quick tweak of my equipment (love Vietnam). Next minute the mamasan comes up and asks me to take one of her new girls. She is young and pretty and new from the country and it is her first time in HCMC and she has no experience. So I tell her I will have a look. She brings her over and she is so very cute but I act a little disinterested. She was very shy and could speak zero English and was pushed on to my lap. Because she couldn; t really say anything we sort of just looked at each other. I then slipped my hands up under her little mini skirt and she jumped with a fright but did not stop me. Next minute the boss walks over and says to me she has a deal for me. Told me if I take the new girl to a st hotel she will charge no bar fine, nothing for the drinks and only 50 USD for the girl. I said that she had a deal.

So we get to the hotel, she strips and sort of hides behind a towel but I encouraged her to drop it and away we went. She was awesome and so damn cute. I could have done 3 times I think (she was sooo hot). But she just wanted to hug and kiss me afterwards. We then get the cab back to drop me off at my hotel and she starts speaking and the cab driver starts laughing and translates to me that she wants to marry me and is in love and wants me to take her away from the bar. I felt sort of sorry for her. The driver told me not to worry and to just hop out of the cab and keep going and that she will get over it all.

Sort of sad but boy was she HOT, so sexy and so cute and not to mention sooooo tight. I can still remember the feeling, awesome!

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location, location, location?

This is one reason why I ask for the new girls. They are not commercially or emotionally hardened and can give you a real GFE. I would have got that one's number because I suspect that freebies were going to be on offer.

When they are like this it takes a little management and some small gifts to keep them on the hook without making any firm commitments. I usually buy perfume sample packs or soft toys for this purpose.

OzzieSuds
04-24-08, 08:53
Hey Viet - sorry to give you a hard time about location of these places.

Saigon is constantly changing and some of the more discrete places are hard to find. So good direction in English are very useful.

Viet1
04-24-08, 23:36
location, location, location?

This is one reason why I ask for the new girls. They are not commercially or emotionally hardened and can give you a real GFE. I would have got that one's number because I suspect that freebies were going to be on offer.

When they are like this it takes a little management and some small gifts to keep them on the hook without making any firm commitments. I usually buy perfume sample packs or soft toys for this purpose.I appreciate your feedback Sudsoz and love your idea of gifts. I will try that next time, thanks for this tip and I only wish I was switched on enough to have thought of it at the time. I sort of freaked a little when she got so clingy. And you are right about and I will get a map and have a look at this location and get back to the forum with where it is. If I looked at a street map I know I could easily work it out.

Thanks again

Viet1
04-26-08, 08:26
Hey guys,

I would love to see a thread wher we all list the name of a place, its address and then a brief description and then rate it. this way we can start a good collection of the best and worst places.

What do you all thinks?

Viet1
04-28-08, 07:49
Hi everyone,

I have attached a list of bars. I think this is a good start for people. We can easily update this list to show what additional services that you can get at some of these places. Is anyone interested in doing this?

We can then use the info on our trips to HCMC and stop wasting time with places that are no good.

•163 Cyclo Bar, 163 Pham Ngu Lao Street, 2 doors down from the Duna Hotel. Thumping music until 2 a.m. and really friendly staff. The Vietnamese girls seem to have a strong affinity for Caucasian men.

•Acoustic Cafe, 6E1 Ngô Thời Nhiệm. Though only 1 km from the heavily touristed center, this club is completely outside the tourist orbit, and offers an interesting view of local life. The all-Vietnamese house band performs every night, mostly American music, and it's always jammed with student-aged groupies. For some reason, they address the crowd in English between songs, even though half the crowd doesn't understand. On weekends, at least, you need to arrive by 7:30 to have any hope of getting a seat. If your hobby is rock ballad or hardrock, you should go on Friday night.

•Allez Boo, corner Pham Ngu Lao, De Tham. The definitive backpacker bar has closed.

•Alibi, 11 Thai Van Lung. Very cozy atmosphere, with sofas lining the walls and beautiful decor. good food & drinks selection, nice music, and a mix of both local & expat people. friendly staff, and the management's always there to make you feel welcome and make sure you get what you are asking for.

•Apocalypse Now, 2C Thi Sach. Legendary and still packed on weekends, although aside from a few movie references it's not all that much to look at. Stays open late. Now opened their 2nd floor for dj, dancing, drinks with less crowded atmosphere.
•Bottom Line, Ly Tu Trong. Cubby hole for the lost and lonely. Good sports coverage, OK food, and pleasant attractive staff.

•Carmen, 8 Ly Tu Trong, former home of an unbelievably talented Salsa / Flamenco / Latin pop band, was unfortunately leveled in August, 2007 when the owner of part of the underlying land decided to sell. The owner of the club is struggling with efforts to rebuild, so the if, when and where of re-opening is unknown.

•Catwalk, at the side of New World Hotel. All in one place with a massage parlour, disco, KTV and a mini casino. Price is on the expensive side but it is a sight to behold. (Please note that if you want to occupy a room @ KTV, the minimum purchase is USD200.)

•Eden, De Tham Street. Often busy, full of sporties, revellers, expats and others. Dark and deep and reasonably priced for the backpacker main drag.

•Ice Blue, Dong Khoi. Downtown English pub, complete with darts board and warm beer (if you want it that way!). Friendly, but shuts at midnight.

•Juice, claims to be Saigon's first juice bar (of course it wasn't, there were many local places before - but maybe it was the first Western-managed one). Food slipped recently, but still a nice place to hang out. Has Wi-Fi.

•La Habana, 6 Cao Ba Quat, about two blocks north of the Hyatt. A restaurant and bar with Cuban theme that makes outstanding cocktails for 60,000 dong. Some are available in pitcher-size for 150,000 dong. The food is also excellent, though at the high end of Saigon prices. On Friday nights, an energetic and talented Philippino singer named Jeram attracts a standing-room only crowd.

•Level 23, Sheraton Saigon 23F. The latest on the 5-star hotel drinking scene, with separate bar and nightclub, and great views over the city. A little soulless though, and very pricey with most drinks 80000 dong.

•Lion's, 11-13 Lam Son Square, Dist.1 (next to Caravelle hostel). Brewery - Restaurant (somewhat German food), with tasty beers at an affordable price. The outside terrace is a nice place to chill out, and the inside restaurant is very welcoming with its two beer tanks and cosy bar. Cocktails are very good. Not a good place to please your teeth and tongue. though.

•Lush, at the far west end of Ly Tu Trong. A nightclub in the Western style, with loud pulsing music and minimalist too-cool decor. Hugely expensive, but musically about as good as it gets in this part of the world if you like the particular style. Mixed crowd (Vietnamese, tourists and expats), pretty good food - but no dance floor. Lots of billiards/pool tables out back.

•Metallic Bar, 41 Ba Huyen Thanh Quan, District 3. House band plays covers of Metallica, Guns N Roses and other popular rock bands nightly between 9PM and midnight.

•Napoly, Pham Ngoc Thach near the "Turtle Pond". The ground floor is a popular, somewhat upscale cafe with inside and outside seating. The bar is upstairs in the back, with a decent house band singing a mixture of Vietnamese and English songs. The resident band must predate the reunification as they know all the old songs.
•Oblivion, Bui Vien. Late night venue with lots of character, claims to be Saigon's premier music bar and it's hard to argue - assuming, that is, you have a taste for non-chart buzzy British guitar and obscure dark US/European stuff. You have to ask for happy pop, though if you're spending enough it'll sometimes get an outing. Like most Saigon bars, it attracts its share of working girls. If you're not interested, simply say you're not and you'll be left alone.

•Peaches Saigon South (Phu My Hung). Great place to enjoy a few drinks with friends. Friendly staff, great food!!

•Polo, Ham Nghi Street (above the Liberty Hotel). Mixture of expats and locals, starts getting busy quite early. Reasonably priced food and drink, good music spanning from the Eighties to the present.

•Q Bar Saigon The original, internationally acclaimed Q Bar established in 1992 under the Opera House. Mix of locals, tourists and expats in a grotto-like uber-chic setting that could as easily be in Soho as Saigon. Open till late every night. Great cocktails, though at very high prices, similar to the roof-top bar of the Caravelle Hotel across the street. It's the cool place to be seen if you have a lot of Uncle Hos in your pocket. Terrace and Indoor areas. DJ nights.

•Saigon Pho, this little hole in the wall is only a stone's throw from Allez Boo, but much more expat orientated. Open late.

•Saigon Saigon, Caravelle Hotel 9F, 12-13 Lam Son Square. A pleasant, breezy bar with a great view of the city. Live band playing inside every night. Cool, quiet ambience on the terrace. Attracts an expense-account crowd due to the prices (cocktails mostly >100,000 dong including the ++).

•Serenata and Soi Da, 6E Ngô Thời Nhiệm. Two open-air cafe-bars with live music in Villa-style settings, which attract few if any tourists but typify what most Vietnamese consider a pleasant evening out. Soi Da features mostly classical chamber music, while Serenata has a mix of classical, Vietnamese lounge music, American FM classics, and the odd French song.

•Shadow Bar, 41 Dong Du Street. Expat bar, good place to wind down or up. Recently moved premises from 56 Mac Thi Buoi Street.

•Sheridan's, Le Thanh Ton near Thai Van Lung. Small, cozy Irish-themed bar with imported draft beer and live music.

•The Tavern SB8-1 My Khanh 2 (H4-2) Nguyen Van Linh, Saigon South (Phu My Hung) tel: 4120866. Great place to enjoy a cold beer or a great "Western" meal - favourite dishes are fish'n'chips & bangers'n'mash. Reasonable prices and nice, friendly staff and management. Opens for breakfast, closes at midnight.

•Underground - more a food than a drink spot, though open for both. Sometimes busy with the business crowd, always packed with people enjoying the reasonably priced burgers, steaks and the like.

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Jacky33
04-30-08, 08:57
Gossip- Pounding electronic music with freelancers if you are into the scene. Usually very crowded everyday especially weekends. Girls are usually with other guys so its pretty hard to pick up on the non FLs from my experience. Girls look pretty inside the club but once they step out into the light some of them get quite ugly that you wouldnt do for free...hehe..

Liquid- Club has became a hostess club essentially. Girls there work for the club. I didnt see any regular girls there when I was there. Some girls dont go home as I offered a few $ to take home but to no avail. Girls are cute though. Better looking than Gossips.

Volcano- Dead on weekdays. Selection of girls are alot higher on weekends but probably most of them are FLs. Didnt try to approach any girls though. Some girls I was with told me an Americanized Vn died in the club by getting into a fight and getting hit over the head with a bottle. Probably fighting over girls. In Vn its probably not like America where you can just approach girls all day even with guys and not have any repercusions. So I try to be more careful in Vn as to which girls I approach.

Lush- I like the design of the place (very westernized), but however it is way too small and usually overcrowded. You have ppl dancing on the stairs when it is really crowded and makes it a pain to maneuver. I saw way more sausages then girls there. Much more of an Ex-Pat place cause the price of the drinks are pretty steep compared to other clubs.

I will update a few more clubs when I have the time. As always happy partying and be careful.

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Saigon Daze
05-01-08, 13:15
Ice Blue stays open past Midnight, but not every night.

And Shadow Bar will close in the next few weeks and re-open as an Italian restaurant.

Cowa Banga
05-01-08, 21:23
Joe,

I was in Saigon last summer and was told by a local clubber Gossip was closed. The same management opened a new club not too far away. Are you sure it's called Gossip?

Jacky33
05-02-08, 00:03
I was just there a few months ago. The place looked exactly like Gossip and is in the same exact location. So I am assuming its still Gossip. They might have changed names but everyone I was with still refers to it as Gossip.


Joe,

I was in Saigon last summer and was told by a local clubber Gossip was closed. The same management opened a new club not too far away. Are you sure it's called Gossip?

Jacky33
05-02-08, 00:21
Level 23-High priced hangout for coffee drinking. Place is meant for sightseeing and taking out girls you want to impress. The view is kind of nice especially when they have good weather outside at night. Pretty boring unless you have a girl you enjoy being with. Other than that it is not a place where you go to meet new chicks. Pretty non-happening. Probably because they priced out 95% of the population.

030-I think its one of the newer clubs. (according to the girls I was with) It is the usual electronic pounding music club. I like it better than Gossip music wise. Alot more roomier but not as nice as Gossip. I saw some girls but usually with guys. However didnt see many Fls the few nights I was there.

Catwalk-Very nice place but very high priced. Girls there think they are hot and therefore think they deserve more than what they are worth. Its important to go there early if you dont want the leftovers. If you go early you get to have a selection of the hotter girls. However some of these hot girls have multiple sugar daddies on the side and thus they really dont need you. Just keep that in mind. Some of these girls are even able to quit there jobs because their SDs are giving them 3k or more per month according to some former Catwalk chicks I met.

Reminder to practice safe sex in Saigon. Girls tell me stories of other girls knowing they have HIV and still allowing guys to do them bareback.

Wendella
05-02-08, 16:20
•Allez Boo, corner Pham Ngu Lao, De Tham. The definitive backpacker bar has closed.

•Bottom Line, Ly Tu Trong. Cubby hole for the lost and lonely. Good sports coverage, OK food, and pleasant attractive staff.

Update: These two are history already. They don't exist anymore.

Cowa Banga
05-02-08, 20:36
Allez Boo closed. Wow! Anyone know why? It was always packed with people.

Man, can't wait to get back to check out the the scene.

By the way, anyone been to Vung Tau lately?

Newbie
05-03-08, 16:43
030-I think its one of the newer clubs. (according to the girls I was with) It is the usual electronic pounding music club. I like it better than Gossip music wise. Alot more roomier but not as nice as Gossip. I saw some girls but usually with guys. However didnt see many Fls the few nights I was there.Last summer Gossip was closed by the Govt for "Certain" reasons. It re-opened after like approx 2 months. and everything is back to normal.

As for 030, it is no longer known as 030. It changed its name from 030 to
X-Club. It changed its name when it stopped its daily live entertainment and renovated and changed it into a full fledged Disco with a Hip-Hop room upstairs. However, just before the TET holidays, it was shut down and remains to be shut.

Club Palace at Palace hotel was also shut by the cops before TET but I guess they have the connections to re-open it with new renovations done to the place.

There are a couple of new places.

Most notbaly is 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai. Heard alot about it but have yet to make it there.

There is another place located in Parkson District 1. Called Bounce on the 4th floor. Located also at parkson is another club called Corners. the entrance is on the right side of the main entrance of Parkson on Le thanh ton St.

Cowa Banga
05-04-08, 08:53
Newbie,

What's going on at MGM?

Nonthab
05-04-08, 09:48
Allez Boo closed, as I reported here awhile back, because the owner was offered an unrefusable amount of money. Even so the new owner knows with that location & skyrocketing property values he'll still make a mint. Dunno what is going in there though.

As for Bounce in Parkson it has the distinction of being the place with the most expensive beer I've bought in Vietnam. 108,000 for a can of Tiger after taxes, charges etc were added on.

Newbie
05-04-08, 17:48
Newbie,

What's going on at MGM?MGM has been shut for about a month. Heard it was sold of. In place will be a vietnamese restaurant called Ngoc Suong.

As for Bounce, it is also known to be a place for "posers" if you catch my drift.

As to what "Nonthab" mentioned about Allez boo. The reason is because the plot of land directly infront of it is on of 14 "golden plots" which the Govt wants to auction of for developement. HEard that tenders to purchase the land infront of Allez Boo has already been submitted.

Cowa Banga
05-08-08, 21:54
Newbie,

Thanks for the info on MGM.

Are you living there?

Where are you from?

Zackary Kr
05-11-08, 07:15
Fellow Mongerers,

There is this one place I found that hasn't been mentioned yet, but you can literally see the best looking "working" girls in Saigon in my opinion and that's saying a lot.

Don't get me wrong though, this is not a 'true' mongering place but I strongly recommend sitting down for at least a couple of beers to view the 'scenery' inside this cabaret.

I don't know if you guys know anything about 'taxi dancing' and cabarets, but in this kind of place you sit down and a mamasan will come up to you. All the ladies are generally dressed very well including cocktail dresses, ballroom dresses, or some other tasteful but slightly provocative attire. This isn't a smutty atmosphere but you choose a lady who will sit next to you and she will become your dancing partner.

They have a live music band along with a dj that plays american music from the 60-70's and of course vietnamese cabaret music. Your partner will sit with you, chat with you, and of course dance. You can grope a little bit but in a tasteful way. (arm around waist, a little cuddling.. but not overly sexual... slow down tiger.. kekeke)

Of course, you do have the option of not taking a partner and all and just say you wanna have a beer to relax. (There's an optional bar area next to the dance floor so you can sit there.) After that, no one will pester you and you'll be free to oggle at the ladies inside this place. The lowest I saw was a 7 with a nice smile but these are true 8-10's that are walking around. Keep in mind they are only dancers. But, if you have some language skills or are able to sit with an english speaking partner and play your cards right, who knows what could happen after the place closes at around 12 am?

Ask them to join you for a coffee or a midnight snack. These ladies get really hungry after all the dancing they do and usually go out to eat afterwards. Perfect opportunity in my opinion.

IMPORTANT: These ladies are not the kind you should immediately assume would be P4P but the potential is there. Also, the general crowd of an establishment like this are the upperclass vietnamese businessmen and some foreign businessman (japanese/korean/etc.) Be sure to check the menu for prices because when I was there I didn't pay. However, I think one beer there cost about 75,000 duong. But for that one beer, you gotta check out these ladies!! I've been all over d 1 and I'm hard pressed to find better looking ones. Yeah, you heard me right. Gotta see it to believe it.

PLEASE CHECK THE PRICES on the menu. I don't wanna get flamed. The mamasan is a very professional and elegant lady, she will treat you fairly.

It's a tasteful atmosphere so try not to go overboard.

If you get tired of the normal bar scene and the 'number' bar scene, it's a refreshing change of pace without the "buy me drink", hand rubbing crotch, "take me to short time hotel" mentality. I mean where else could you get a chance to sit with a truly beautiful girl (in accordance with vietnamese standards) and have a chat without all the legwork?

TO REITERATE LOCATION:
End of Dong KHoi next to the river. The Majestic Hotel is there and next to it is Maxim's. A few doors down is bar 29. Oh, next to the entrance of Maxim's is a very famous chinese restaurant which you might want to check out.

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Zackary Kr
05-13-08, 11:12
This place is called "Thuy Thien" at District 1 District 5 border. Actually, from memory, it might actually be the next store with the "Quan 0 1" sign. Anyways, it's hard to miss since it's practically the first place on you left that consists of 3 or 4 floors. It's an open-air type pub restaurant.

It's basically a sports pub with food and beer. There are currently Carlsberg promotion girls offering you beer.

You guys gotta check out the waitresses managing the customers! Wowee! They all wear either tight clothes, skirts, or Ao Dai (I think they are the managers or reception ladies).

Anyways, the potential for pickup here is huge. Each waitress is assigned a 'section' of about 3 or 4 tables and they'll come up and make sure your ice is fresh and do other kinds of related waitress work. Try to establish 'eye-contact' and before you know it, you could be leaving from there with a number. Almost every girl I saw there was either 7 or higher. I'd say they were generally 8's there with a few higher up. The general age of the ladies are anywhere from 19-24 from their appearance.

Actually, one of the Carlsberg ladies kept coming up to my table and boy was she friendly. I noticed her keep having the eye on me but she wasn't my type.
I was just out for a beer but I could have so easily gotten her number. I don't speak any Viet by the way.

So, if you guys wanna drink in a pleasant atmosphere and check out some nice looking chicks with pickup potential. Head on over!

Location: Border of district 1 and district 5. As soon as you pass the "Cong Hoa" rotary get on to Tran Phu but it should be the first store on the left. Now that I think about it more, it's probably not Thuy Thien but the one next to it with the Quan 0 1 sign. Quan just means 'number', or so I wast told. So, it's "Number One".

Just as a side note, district 5 also contains a "China town". So, nearby at the Le Hong Phong and 3 Thang 2 ave. intersection is the Hoa Binh Theatre and some tall pagoda-like structure. I'm gonna be headed over there next time to check it out and make a report.

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Centaurus
05-14-08, 19:19
I don't know if you guys know anything about 'taxi dancing' and cabarets, but in this kind of place you sit down and a mamasan will come up to you. All the ladies are generally dressed very well including cocktail dresses, ballroom dresses, or some other tasteful but slightly provocative attire. This isn't a smutty atmosphere but you choose a lady who will sit next to you and she will become your dancing partner.

They have a live music band along with a dj that plays american music from the 60-70's and of course vietnamese cabaret music. Your partner will sit with you, chat with you, and of course dance.

Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.[/blue][/size]It's called taxi dancing now? I'm glad that this sort of place still exists. I was in Saigon in 1991, and a whole disco dancing Cha Cha Cha in perfect syncronisation totally freaked me out, especially because an hour of dancing lady was less expensive than a beer. Do they still dance viennese waltz in those cabarets?

Newbie
05-15-08, 10:27
Newbie,

Thanks for the info on MGM.

Are you living there?

Where are you from?No worries dude.

I have been stationed here for just over 2 years due to work and I am from Singapore.

Newbie
05-15-08, 10:37
TO REITERATE LOCATION:

End of Dong KHoi next to the river. The Majestic Hotel is there and next to it is Maxim's. A few doors down is bar 29. Oh, next to the entrance of Maxim's is a very famous chinese restaurant which you might want to check out.AAAAHHHH....MAXIM'S....

Brings back memories but not really all that good.

I will agree with Zackary that all the ladies in there are lookers and trust me I have been around long enough to know.

I was introduced to a group of 6 of them in a Club 27 which is spitting distance away from Maxim's. I didnt know they were from there till on night, out of shere boredom, a group of us decided to check Maxim's out. It was the first place in HCMC that I had to pay a cover charge to get it and the ticket was to cover your first drink.

Sat at the bar because the stage area and the dance floor was completely dark, couldn't see a thing so sat at the bar. A few girls were walking around and some of them looked very very familiar and I soon realised they were the girls I met at Club 27.

Anyways, they came up to say hello etc etc and plesentries were exchanged and we soon left the place. Later that evening, one of the ladies sms me to say if I wanted to meet and i said sure. Her reply to me was "how much was I willing to pay". Just out of curiosity, I asked her what was the rate and her reply to me was USD$200. after that i deleted her number.

Not surprised that these ladies can afford to ride SH and Dylan bikes.

OzzieSuds
05-15-08, 11:45
Maxim's is/was a high class Viet restaurant. The sort of place you would take visitors or a corporate celebration. Never seen the dancing area - should go and take a look.

OzzieSuds
05-15-08, 11:48
Just as a side note, district 5 also contains a "China town". So, nearby at the Le Hong Phong and 3 Thang 2 ave. intersection is the Hoa Binh Theatre and some tall pagoda-like structure. I'm gonna be headed over there next time to check it out and make a report.


Chinatown in D5 has a lot of bars etc geared to the locals but I hear it can get pretty rough. Have been told this by local guys, local bargirls and I even think I read it here somewhere.

If you go over there recommend you take some Viet company.

Co Van My
05-15-08, 15:37
Do they still dance viennese waltz in those cabarets?

Ballroom dancing, including dancers for hire, is alive and well in Saigon. My two favorites, although it's been awhile since I was there, are Maxim (next to the Majestic Hotel) and Tu Do, 2nd floor of the building on the corner of Dong Du and Dong Khoi.

As I remember it, admission is between 50-100k. Girls are about 200k per hour plus a tip. The dress code is all over the map from levis to coat and tie. A lot of visiting Viet kieu go to these places. Many of them are knockouts although they are usually there with husbands or boyfriends. These are generally not pickup places, but the girls for hire can often be taken out or met later.

Live music, lovely Vietnamese singers, dark booths and a very accommodating atmosphere.

OzzieSuds
05-16-08, 01:13
Maxim's is/was a high class Viet restaurant. The sort of place you would take visitors or a corporate celebration. Never seen the dancing area - should go and take a look.

Maxim's restaurant is on the ground floor and it seems that you go up the stairs to the dance club. Not dressed appropriately so I did not go in.

Hardlock1
05-17-08, 05:48
You know, I am intrigued. I was married to my Viet wife in the Majestic Hotel in 2001. I saw Maxims then, and I wondered for a moment or two, but I got caught up in the moment of getting tied down again! Ha ha Now, I am wondering if it is the same Maxims that opened there back in 1967, during the war. That Maxims was also in the same spot. Sudsoz, has it been opened that long? Really? Or did it possibly re-open and use the same name?

Now, back during the war, if you went to where the Majestic stands today, you had to turn either right or left, (hell, I guess you still do! ) and, if you turned right, and walked a few doors down, there was a bar there called "Maxines", not to be confused with Maxims. Oh, the stories I could tell about that place! LOL The Mamasan in Maxines loved Cherry Boys. A buddy of mine took me in there one evening, and I was maybe 19 years old at the time, and convinced Mamasan I was a Cherry Boy, which I was not. LOL She begged me, and begged me and begged me. She even paid for my beer. She wanted to deflower me!

So, being a Southern Gentleman, as I am, and being as, where I come from, it is impolite to keep a lady waiting all night, I allowed her to do that! My gosh! Oh well, the free beer made it all worth while! LOL

Sudz, please let me know what you know about Maxims.

OzzieSuds
05-18-08, 05:23
Sudz, please let me know what you know about Maxims.I have only been coming to HCMC for about 4 years and it has been there all that time. All I know.

On hearing some of the comments about the girls asking prices at the dance joint I would tend to put it into the same category as Club Royale and Catwalk. The women do look good and they believe they are high class so they ask high prices but my experience is that they are primma donnas and clockwatchers.

Big T84
06-07-08, 10:16
Hey guys,

I'm a long time reader of the forum and it has definitly steered me in the right direction many a time, so I thought I would give a little something back. I don't if this place has been mentioned before but a couple of nights ago a checked out oblivion on bui vien st. In pham ngu lao. Its a pretty laid back girly bar. Drinks are reasonably priced and the girls not too pushy for lady drinks. I had a few drinks, bought a few lady drinks then offered to take the girl out. Aparently there is no bar fine policy and you agree on the price with the girl. She asked for 500k vnd but I got her down to 400k for st. She then took me to a st hotel right on bui vien which charged I think less then 10 bucks for st use. All in all a nice easy relatively inexpensive night. The bar doesn't have the best quality girls, but for a laid back inexpensive atmosphere I would highly reccomend it.

Columpuss
06-08-08, 04:04
Hardlock

i think the same family owns it for ever

Playsafe
06-27-08, 07:40
I don't quite understand why many of you think the WGs at Apocalypse Now are not that good looking, but I saw a lot awesome looking girls there, in side the club at least. I didn't ask about the prices, but it should be about 1mil/pop.

Happy hunting.

Ian Oxon
06-28-08, 07:24
All in all a nice easy relatively inexpensive night. The bar doesn't have the best quality girls, but for a laid back inexpensive atmosphere I would highly reccomend it.I ended up in Oblivion a few months back. Was taken to Biu Vien by a motorbike and dropped off at Cheers. Had never been there before but it was dead and I noted as we drove past Oblivion that it looked busy so wandered back down the street (about 50m). Found a space at the end of the bar and had a beer. Barmaid very friendly and quite articulate, and I noticed that the G&T's she was mixing for others looked really good, so I ordered one too. That was my big mistake! They were damned good - huge block of ice, very generous slug of gin and a dash of tonic. So I had another and the waitress was suddenly next to me, so I bought her a drink and had another myself.

We were chatting away and then something completely bizarre happened - the manageress (I guess) suddenly took offence at the waitress talking to me (or neglecting her other duties) even though I had been dutifully buying drinks. Then she took her to the sofa, put her over her lap and starting spanking her - not gently. No-one could explain to me what had happened so at this point I thought I had better change positions and moved to the front of the bar, and ordered another Gin. This is where things start to get a little hazy ...

At some point I vaguely remember starting to talk to another woman, in any case the next thing I remember with any clarity is fucking a very attractive, slightly more mature (which I like) woman with lovely large firm breasts from behind. We were in a small hotel off Pham Ngu Lao and it was about 7am. Somehow I had lost about 3 hours of my life: I have no recollection of leaving the bar, no real recollection of talking to this particular woman, but I was very happy to find myself with her. (Her name is Suoung by the way).

So Oblivion lived up to its name but I vouch for the fact that the atmosphere was very relaxed, the prices reasonable (as far as I remember) and the G&T certainly one of the best I have ever had. Highly recommended!

Ian Oxon
06-28-08, 07:28
I ended up in Oblivion a few months back. Was taken to Biu Vien by a motorbike and dropped off at Cheers. Had never been there before but it was dead and I noted as we drove past Oblivion that it looked busy so wandered back down the street (about 50m). Found a space at the end of the bar and had a beer. Barmaid very friendly and quite articulate, and I noticed that the G&T's she was mixing for others looked really good, so I ordered one too. That was my big mistake! They were damned good. Huge block of ice, very generous slug of gin and a dash of tonic. So I had another and the waitress was suddenly next to me, so I bought her a drink and had another myself.

We were chatting away and then something completely bizarre happened. The manageress (I guess) suddenly took offence at the waitress talking to me (or neglecting her other duties) even though I had been dutifully buying drinks. Then she took her to the sofa, put her over her lap and starting spanking her. Not gently. No-one could explain to me what had happened so at this point I thought I had better change positions and moved to the front of the bar, and ordered another Gin. This is where things start to get a little hazy.

At some point I vaguely remember starting to talk to another woman, in any case the next thing I remember with any clarity is fucking a very attractive, slightly more mature (which I like) woman with lovely large firm breasts from behind. We were in a small hotel off Pham Ngu Lao and it was about 7am. Somehow I had lost about 3 hours of my life: I have no recollection of leaving the bar, no real recollection of talking to this particular woman, but I was very happy to find myself with her. (Her name is Suoung by the way).

So Oblivion lived up to its name but I vouch for the fact that the atmosphere was very relaxed, the prices reasonable (as far as I remember) and the G&T certainly one of the best I have ever had. Highly recommended!

Jacky33
07-18-08, 02:27
Has anyone had any experiences bagging a girl from Liquid before? I met this one really hot girl there and I offered her $200 USD and she refused. So I was left high and dry that night.

OzzieSuds
07-19-08, 05:03
Has anyone had any experiences bagging a girl from Liquid before? I met this one really hot girl there and I offered her $200 USD and she refused. So I was left high and dry that night.

Liquid seems to have mostly regular gals from monied families so you probably insulted her by offering money. You may have to work a little harder and maybe propose something different - like a couple of days in Phan Thiet or even KL.

Jacky33
07-19-08, 09:45
Liquid seems to have mostly regular gals from monied families so you probably insulted her by offering money. You may have to work a little harder and maybe propose something different - like a couple of days in Phan Thiet or even KL.Sudsoz when was the last time you were at Liquid? I think they changed the format of the club. Its mostly hostess girls there now that work for the club. They just keep you company for the time you are there and you give them like 200k tip at the end. I obviously wanted more than just company...hehe....Has anyone else been to Liquid recently? Some very attractive girls there.

Wapec
07-19-08, 10:07
Nothing missing ? Like a kidney ?


I ended up in Oblivion a few months back. Was taken to Biu Vien by a motorbike and dropped off at Cheers. Had never been there before but it was dead and I noted as we drove past Oblivion that it looked busy so wandered back down the street (about 50m). Found a space at the end of the bar and had a beer. Barmaid very friendly and quite articulate, and I noticed that the G&T's she was mixing for others looked really good, so I ordered one too. That was my big mistake! They were damned good. Huge block of ice, very generous slug of gin and a dash of tonic. So I had another and the waitress was suddenly next to me, so I bought her a drink and had another myself.

We were chatting away and then something completely bizarre happened. The manageress (I guess) suddenly took offence at the waitress talking to me (or neglecting her other duties) even though I had been dutifully buying drinks. Then she took her to the sofa, put her over her lap and starting spanking her. Not gently. No-one could explain to me what had happened so at this point I thought I had better change positions and moved to the front of the bar, and ordered another Gin. This is where things start to get a little hazy.

At some point I vaguely remember starting to talk to another woman, in any case the next thing I remember with any clarity is fucking a very attractive, slightly more mature (which I like) woman with lovely large firm breasts from behind. We were in a small hotel off Pham Ngu Lao and it was about 7am. Somehow I had lost about 3 hours of my life: I have no recollection of leaving the bar, no real recollection of talking to this particular woman, but I was very happy to find myself with her. (Her name is Suoung by the way).

So Oblivion lived up to its name but I vouch for the fact that the atmosphere was very relaxed, the prices reasonable (as far as I remember) and the G&T certainly one of the best I have ever had. Highly recommended!

OzzieSuds
07-19-08, 12:27
Nothing missing ? Like a kidney ?

For those unaware there is a healthy (or unhealthy) medical trade in body parts in Vietnam and the participants are generally consenting. However it would not be much of a step to waylay a drunken foreigner and grab some bargain components.

It is extremely unwise to get excessively drunk in public places in any developing country.

Nonthab
07-22-08, 15:55
Allez Boo is re-opening in early August across the road from where they were, where Lotteria was. 3 floors it seems.

Jacky33
07-23-08, 08:11
Allez Boo is re-opening in early August across the road from where they were, where Lotteria was. 3 floors it seems.Is Allez Boo more like a Gossip type of club or a Liquid type of club?

Ragnarok42
07-24-08, 01:08
After reading many pages of the forum I decided to try Oblivion. This was my first trip to Saigon and I do not speak any Vietnese. My client took me to a KTV the night before where I totally didnt hit it off with my girl (she spoke no English) so I went with an office collegue for some "adventure" on my own.
We found the bar pretty easy but it was really dead since it was a Tuesday and it was raining. Tiny hole in the wall, maybe 3 meters by 10 meters with only a bar table and a sofa in the back. Was immediately sat down by two girls who started by having us order a beer each and one for them. Each was 30,000 so I was not too concerned.

My girl, I think her same is something like Song Ge "Song GIrl", spoke limited English but was very friendly and touchy. After about 2 rounds of drinks we start with the negotations. Me and my girl settled on 500,000 but my friend was much more uptight and would not take his out. The bar maids got into the conversation and I even got the cuter of the two to commit to 1 mil for ST. But my friend would not bite so we paid and left for the hotel.
The staff stopped me and told me that guests were not allowed up after 8pm (totally bullshit) but no use arguing so we took a cab back to the bar to find a cheap hotel room. On the way we got into heavy petting, me massaging her tight B-cups and her playing with my cock through my pants. After many minutes of kissing and petting we arrive and walk across the street to a small hotel, 150,000 for the room and we were in. Fairly clean hotel with twin beds, so Song Ge tells me to take a quick shower and when I am done she is naked on the bed.

Now she is not a stunner but has very soft skin and has that quiet, sexy smoldering look. She said she is 20 and I think at most she is that. I get into bed and start kissing her and playing with her body. After a couple minutes of this she pushes me down and starts to give me a BBBJ where I knew she was really into it. She has thick lips that were great to kiss and gave me an even hotter BJ. She askes me if I am going to cum (we had joked that she could suck me off in one minute, but I said 5) and I told her no. So she slips on the condom and gets on top. Boy was she tight! I know I am her first tonight and its going to be a good session. By the time I flip her over to mish she is almost overflowing. Mish was great and I decided not to finish in doggy since I wanted to cum looking at those sexy lips, which is exactly what I did. I think I gave her a double load and she was surprised too when she saw how much it was. The smile on her face when we were cleaning up told me all I needed to know. Would have gone back the next night but had to catch the plane to head back to Taiwan, where its a lot more expensive for equal talent.
But all in all a very good time.

Total damage-150,000 for 2 rounds of beers, 150,000 for the quicky hotel room and 500,000 for smoking hot sex with a Saigon girl. I am pretty sure I paid too much by local standards but that works out to less than US $40 so cannot complain.

Good luck out there and happy hunting.

Rag42

Wendella
07-27-08, 15:24
Is Allez Boo more like a Gossip type of club or a Liquid type of club?

Neither -- it's (was/will be) a straight bar catering to backpacker crowd, exactly like Go2, which is more or less a copy of the original Allez Boo. Nothing like either of those clubs.

Wendella
07-27-08, 15:28
Sudsoz when was the last time you were at Liquid? I think they changed the format of the club. Its mostly hostess girls there now that work for the club. They just keep you company for the time you are there and you give them like 200k tip at the end. I obviously wanted more than just company...hehe....Has anyone else been to Liquid recently? Some very attractive girls there.

How is it different than it was in the past? I was there a couple years back, not since.

Wendella
07-27-08, 15:41
Has anyone checked out 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai yet? Drove past last night and the area was packed with parked cars -- something you never see in HCMC at any place. Dozens of parked cars all over outside that club. I'm sure the checkbill will be healthy.

Jacky33
07-27-08, 22:12
Has anyone checked out 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai yet? Drove past last night and the area was packed with parked cars -- something you never see in HCMC at any place. Dozens of parked cars all over outside that club. I'm sure the checkbill will be healthy.Is 97 a club or karaoke? I guess I will check it out next time I am around there. Wendella what is the current exchange rate for the VN dong vs the dollar that you are getting in Vietnam wendella? I will be there soon and I dont want to get ripped off by the gold shops.

Crusher777
07-28-08, 01:41
Its club 98, awesome place to party, really good music.

Crusher777
07-28-08, 01:52
Has anyone checked out 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai yet? Drove past last night and the area was packed with parked cars -- something you never see in HCMC at any place. Dozens of parked cars all over outside that club. I'm sure the checkbill will be healthy.Its Club 98, awesome place to party with really good music.

Wendella
07-28-08, 17:01
Is 97 a club or karaoke? I guess I will check it out next time I am around there. Wendella what is the current exchange rate for the VN dong vs the dollar that you are getting in Vietnam wendella? I will be there soon and I dont want to get ripped off by the gold shops.


Gold shops on Cong Quynh are always fair -- it's hovering around 16700 to 16800 this past week, at least when i checked. The bank rate is very close now these days, it's settled down.

That place I mentioned looks like it must be a nightclub.

Mouseymike
07-29-08, 05:24
Has anyone checked out 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai yet? Drove past last night and the area was packed with parked cars -- something you never see in HCMC at any place. Dozens of parked cars all over outside that club. I'm sure the checkbill will be healthy.97 NTMK is a discotheque. Got 2 levels I. E. 2nd & 3rd floor. Both floors are relatively small, super packed during weekends and the music is typical loud techno type. Dint notice FR during my last couple of visits there but it's a place to be if you want to see pretty MILF or SYT, who really dress to kill. Drink wise is higher than other disco, but you will notice most tables has chivas or martell. Hardly anyone drink Heineken.

Mouseymike
07-29-08, 05:28
Gold shops on Cong Quynh are always fair -- it's hovering around 16700 to 16800 this past week, at least when i checked. The bank rate is very close now these days, it's settled down.

That place I mentioned looks like it must be a nightclub.Ya, agreed tat nowadays the exchange rates between gold smith and other money changer not much different. So, not worth to travel to specifically change money at goldsmith unless you have large sum or you happen to be near the place. Today rate is USD 1 = VND 16,700.

Wendella
07-29-08, 15:01
Ya, agreed tat nowadays the exchange rates between gold smith and other money changer not much different. So, not worth to travel to specifically change money at goldsmith unless you have large sum or you happen to be near the place. Today rate is USD 1 = VND 16,700.

If the rates are the same, always much less hassle to go to the gold shop -- its a quick and easy exchange. In banks you often have to wait, sign papers, show ID, etc etc. Though if you're nearer to the bank...


97 NTMK is a discotheque. Got 2 levels I. E. 2nd & 3rd floor. Both floors are relatively small, super packed during weekends and the music is typical loud techno type. Dint notice FR during my last couple of visits there but it's a place to be if you want to see pretty MILF or SYT, who really dress to kill. Drink wise is higher than other disco, but you will notice most tables has chivas or martell. Hardly anyone drink Heineken.

Looks like I need to brush up on my abbreviations. OK the forum's list says FR's are field reports. That's obviously not what you mean. FL? MILF and SYT seem like they must be correct. No FL? All that money flying around and nobody's working? How much for a Heineken?

J Europe
07-30-08, 19:06
After reading many pages of the forum I decided to try Oblivion. This was my first trip to Saigon and I do not speak any Vietnese. My client took me to a KTV the night before where I totally didnt hit it off with my girl (she spoke no English) so I went with an office collegue for some "adventure" on my own.
We found the bar pretty easy but it was really dead since it was a Tuesday and it was raining. Tiny hole in the wall, maybe 3 meters by 10 meters with only a bar table and a sofa in the back. Was immediately sat down by two girls who started by having us order a beer each and one for them. Each was 30,000 so I was not too concerned.

My girl, I think her same is something like Song Ge "Song GIrl", spoke limited English but was very friendly and touchy. After about 2 rounds of drinks we start with the negotations. Me and my girl settled on 500,000 but my friend was much more uptight and would not take his out. The bar maids got into the conversation and I even got the cuter of the two to commit to 1 mil for ST. But my friend would not bite so we paid and left for the hotel.

The staff stopped me and told me that guests were not allowed up after 8pm (totally bullshit) but no use arguing so we took a cab back to the bar to find a cheap hotel room. On the way we got into heavy petting, me massaging her tight B-cups and her playing with my cock through my pants. After many minutes of kissing and petting we arrive and walk across the street to a small hotel, 150,000 for the room and we were in. Fairly clean hotel with twin beds, so Song Ge tells me to take a quick shower and when I am done she is naked on the bed.

Now she is not a stunner but has very soft skin and has that quiet, sexy smoldering look. She said she is 20 and I think at most she is that. I get into bed and start kissing her and playing with her body. After a couple minutes of this she pushes me down and starts to give me a BBBJ where I knew she was really into it. She has thick lips that were great to kiss and gave me an even hotter BJ. She askes me if I am going to cum (we had joked that she could suck me off in one minute, but I said 5) and I told her no. So she slips on the condom and gets on top. Boy was she tight! I know I am her first tonight and its going to be a good session. By the time I flip her over to mish she is almost overflowing. Mish was great and I decided not to finish in doggy since I wanted to cum looking at those sexy lips, which is exactly what I did. I think I gave her a double load and she was surprised too when she saw how much it was. The smile on her face when we were cleaning up told me all I needed to know. Would have gone back the next night but had to catch the plane to head back to Taiwan, where its a lot more expensive for equal talent.
But all in all a very good time.

Total damage-150,000 for 2 rounds of beers, 150,000 for the quicky hotel room and 500,000 for smoking hot sex with a Saigon girl. I am pretty sure I paid too much by local standards but that works out to less than US $40 so cannot complain.

Good luck out there and happy hunting.

Rag42Great Report Ragnorak! For US $40 you had a blast! As that time Stateside would have easily been 10X as much or more.

Wendella
08-09-08, 18:07
Its club 98, awesome place to party, really good music.


It's not Club 98, the one I was talking about is definitely 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai. It's near the intersection of CMT8. It's possible you're thinking about a totally different club -- there are a couple further down NTMK on the opposite side of the street, down at about Pham Ngoc Thach street. Don't know the addresses of those, but it's possible that one of those is the Club 98 you're talking about (or you're just mistaken if you meant the one I mentioned). I checked and saw that across the street from 97 NTMK on the even side of the street, the numbers were in the 300s, so if there's a 98, it must be a good ways down the road.

EDIT: I'm writing the next morning after making this post, editing in what I discovered last night while driving home from work down NTMK. There is in fact a big night club at 96 NTMK, not 98. There is also another club at about 78 NTMK (no number on the building I could see). Those are both on the north side of the street. 97 NTMK is on the south side of the street, a good ways further west.

Wendella
08-10-08, 07:58
Which nightclubs shut at 1am on a Saturday night? Would that be Gossip? I ask because I keep spotting a girl I used to know and like a bit after 1am eating in PNL, all dressed up looking ready for work. At first I assumed she was on her way to work at that late time, maybe to Go2 or another PNL bar. But last night she finished her meal and disappeared down an alley, apparently going HOME, not to work. So it means she was on her way home from work, not going to work.

The new Allez Boo just reopened finally. It seems very noisy -- in fact that entire area around it is made noisy by it.

I don't quite get all this excitement over sad little Oblivion bar. Last time I was there I had a 30something woman sneak up behind me and start groping me all over, including the ultimate prize. I looked at her, she smiled broadly, showing the open spaces where a few front teeth used to be. I was reminded of the scene in The Shining when Jack Nicholson explores an open hotel room. Anyway, I think if I were to rank about 40 nightspots in HCMC, including Oblivion, it would have to be in the high 30s, if not number 40. It just seems a bit odd, all these positive reviews of Oblivion showing up at the same time. Suspicious, almost.

Jacky33
08-10-08, 10:11
Wendella are you going to still be in Saigon next week? Can you speak Vietnamese? Maybe we can go and check out 97 together to see if they have hotties there.



It's not Club 98, the one I was talking about is definitely 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai. It's near the intersection of CMT8. It's possible you're thinking about a totally different club -- there are a couple further down NTMK on the opposite side of the street, down at about Pham Ngoc Thach street. Don't know the addresses of those, but it's possible that one of those is the Club 98 you're talking about (or you're just mistaken if you meant the one I mentioned). I checked and saw that across the street from 97 NTMK on the even side of the street, the numbers were in the 300s, so if there's a 98, it must be a good ways down the road.

EDIT: I'm writing the next morning after making this post, editing in what I discovered last night while driving home from work down NTMK. There is in fact a big night club at 96 NTMK, not 98. There is also another club at about 78 NTMK (no number on the building I could see). Those are both on the north side of the street. 97 NTMK is on the south side of the street, a good ways further west.

Newbie
08-11-08, 05:20
I'm writing the next morning after making this post, editing in what I discovered last night while driving home from work down NTMK. There is in fact a big night club at 96 NTMK, not 98. There is also another club at about 78 NTMK (no number on the building I could see). Those are both on the north side of the street. 97 NTMK is on the south side of the street, a good ways further west.96 Ngueyn THi Minh Khai is called Butterfly Bar. It is located above a car showroom. Cant remenber the brand.

It is just digonally opposite The Avalon Service Apartments. It is not really that big. Maybe about 2.5 times the size of Napoly Bar.

It opens Till 3am

Newbie
08-11-08, 05:23
Which nightclubs shut at 1am on a Saturday night? Would that be Gossip? Yes, Gossip stays open till 1am.

96 Nguyen thi Minh Khai opens till 3.

Club America @ An Dong Plaza stays open till 3am on Fridays & Saturdays.

Not sure but I think Club 27 at Ngu Duc Ke D1 should also be open till 3am. It has been a long time since I last was there.

Wendella
08-12-08, 06:43
Yes, Gossip stays open till 1am.

96 Nguyen thi Minh Khai opens till 3.

Club America @ An Dong Plaza stays open till 3am on Fridays & Saturdays.

Not sure but I think Club 27 at Ngu Duc Ke D1 should also be open till 3am. It has been a long time since I last was there.

OK it must be Gossip then. Haven't been in that place in over a year. America, same. Not sure if I was in 96 or not already -- I was in one of those NTMK clubs -- actually I think it was the one at 78 NTMK. Have not been to 27 yet.

Napoly bar? Which is that?

Newbie
08-12-08, 10:29
OK it must be Gossip then. Haven't been in that place in over a year. America, same. Not sure if I was in 96 or not already -- I was in one of those NTMK clubs -- actually I think it was the one at 78 NTMK. Have not been to 27 yet.

Napoly bar? Which is that?When You say 78NTMK, is it the one with the big ass buffet restaurant on the ground floor? and the entrance is on the right side of hte restaurant? If it is I think the number is 88. Not sure though.

Club 27 is nothing to shout about. Small, plays loud music and alot of "unsavoury" chracters if you get my drift.

Napoly is located at 7 Pham Nguc Thach. 2 Storey building located next door to Cafe Sao. Downstairs has a Cafe, upstairs is a Bar with a live band/prs/ hot looking bar staff and A disco called "Cristal" which also has PRs

The PRs of "Cristal" were formerly working at Club Echo @ Nguyen Trung Truc (not sure of the spelling but its located next door to Rosy Cafe)

Wendella
08-13-08, 16:04
When You say 78NTMK, is it the one with the big ass buffet restaurant on the ground floor? and the entrance is on the right side of the restaurant? If it is I think the number is 88. Not sure though.

Club 27 is nothing to shout about. Small, plays loud music and alot of "unsavoury" chracters if you get my drift.

Napoly is located at 7 Pham Nguc Thach. 2 Storey building located next door to Cafe Sao. Downstairs has a Cafe, upstairs is a Bar with a live band/prs/ hot looking bar staff and A disco called "Cristal" which also has PRs

The PRs of "Cristal" were formerly working at Club Echo @ Nguyen Trung Truc (not sure of the spelling but its located next door to Rosy Cafe)

Sorry I was guessing the address of 78 NTMK because next door was 76 and I didn't see a number on the building with the club. It may well be 88 NTMK. Funny, last time I was there, they had a nightclub on the ground floor and another one way up top. I wasn't thrilled with either. Things change though, maybe its good now. I think it's the same property that used to be Viet's Top (with the clear plexiglass floors). The buffet must have taken over what used to be the ground level nightclub. (assuming its the same place I'm thinking of -- looks like I'll need to inspect more closely next time I drive by)

I've been in Echo, which has changed names a few times. It seems to be back now to being called "008", which is what it was named when I arrived here in 2003. It wasn't bad the few times I visited, though not so great that it made me want to keep going back. I think it was being called 888 before it got changed to Club Echo.

OK now I know the place you mean, Napoly, of course. Have driven past many many times. Just off the big roundabout.

And all this reminds me of a place that hasn't been talked about in a long time: Medusa. Well that's the former name, changed to Zeus. Last I heard they had a crackdown and lots of problems, don't know if things ever got back to normal. This was in the back of the Amara Hotel near the start of Le Van Sy street.

Co Van My
08-13-08, 22:41
And all this reminds me of a place that hasn't been talked about in a long time: Medusa. Well that's the former name, changed to Zeus. Last I heard they had a crackdown and lots of problems, don't know if things ever got back to normal. This was in the back of the Amara Hotel near the start of Le Van Sy street.

I was in Zeus last March. There were more and prettier girls in the Medusa days, but the current lineup is not bad. Off site service was still being offered for $100, but I feel certain that it can be had for less.

Beefy6969
08-21-08, 05:38
OK I’ve been a lurker for a few months now and this is my first post before I head out to VN in 2 weeks. I am viet kieu from California traveling with 3 others guys. I will be there mid month in Sept.

Here is my cheat sheet of all the bars I would like to go to. Can some of you veterans tell me if ANY of these clubs have closed or have temporarily shut down?

How would you rank each one of these clubs? Any other better clubs do you recommend? Any tips and comments would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Hanoi:
New Century Disco
Fortuna Hotel/Boss Nightclub
Hanoi Hotel/Hanoi Nightclub
17 Saloon
Relax Cafe

Saigon:
Go2 Bar
Blue Club
Allez Boo
Liquid
Temple Club
Palace
Lush

Newbie
08-22-08, 08:54
Saigon:
Go2 Bar & Allez Boo
Both located at the Back Packers area. Known for alot of touts hanging around. GO2 opens till Late or early depending on how you look at it


Blue Club & Temple Club

Have not heard of these places. Wendella might be able to help you here.


Liquid & Palace

BOth of these places cater more to the local crowds. Both of these places provide PRs to accompany you but not many. As for looks wise, its subjective


Lush

This is known for its mostly expat crowds and it charges a Cover Charge. Pricey drinks

Beefy6969
08-22-08, 09:19
Thanks for the quick reply Newbie!

I appreciate your comments and insights. =)

Dragonfly22
08-22-08, 12:28
Will be returning to Vn in Dec. and have seen little or no action at the bars during my 4 different stays. I'll have a friend in tow this trip and would like to show him a "good" time. I'm not much of a night owl and do most of my mongering at the hotels I stay in by having the doormen send girls my way. Just enjoy it better that way, safer. How late does the action start in these places?

OzzieSuds
08-23-08, 00:46
Will be returning to Vn in Dec. and have seen little or no action at the bars during my 4 different stays. I'll have a friend in tow this trip and would like to show him a "good" time. I'm not much of a night owl and do most of my mongering at the hotels I stay in by having the doormen send girls my way. Just enjoy it better that way, safer. How late does the action start in these places?The HBT bars open at about 5pm although the gals are busy eating at this time. They shut about midnight but often put up the shutters but allow customers to stay.

Mikle
08-30-08, 15:12
When I arrived at Saigon, I went of course to fan-ku-lai rd, where many foreigner oriented hotel, bars and "services" are concentrated.

To find a guest (girl)-friendly hotel was not easy. It is better to ask upfront just to avoid surprise later.

"I will have girl friend, is it ok? "

"yes, of course"

"viet-nam girl, is it ok"

Generally the answer is NO.

When I found an guest-friendly hotel (it was the SAO-NAM hotel. 14 usd at night, clean, nice, with all room with tv, bathroom, nice big bed, a/c, wireless internet, scooter parking). Nothing fancy, but exactly what I needed for 5 days.

Mikle
08-30-08, 15:26
Sorry, for the previous post. It was directed to the hotel thread.

Anyway, there is bar, called boys bar on bui-vien, where there are other bars too. Some are more lively with pool, girls touching and hugging you. Boys is just a standard one, with 5-7 nice smiling girls, eager to entertain you, selling some drink, and coming with you for st or lt, previous payment of a small fee gor the bar (thai bar-fine).

I was just crazy about the eyes of a lady there (she remembered me of another girl I met before in my life). Not a small and young one, but a mother of a girl of 7-8. Spoke a little with her. She didn't want to kiss in bar even, she said from nha-thang, and not working on regular basis.

Took her. We were boyfriend and gf for 5 days. She invited me at home, gave food, showed around the city, showed the pics of her farang "support" boyfriend home. We fucked well together. Very sweet, and very wet BBBJ. A little abundant body, but nice to touch, kiss, spank and sleep on.

With her skooter she took care of my small illness bringing to socialist med dispensaries and hospitals. A nice way to see the city, go in the cafes, look the real life of viets (at least the in-love couples only for 20 usd a day (24 hrs! ). No previous discussion of price.

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OzzieSuds
08-31-08, 06:16
Went down to Dong Do this morning to Club Italia for my Sunday brunch of football, beer and the sweet ladies.

Seems that Club Italia has been sold and all of the sports stuff and big screens are being moved out. The gals are out of jobs.

I had one bloody mary whilst Phu cried on my shoulder and then I left. She does not even have a mobile phone so I can catch her later!

Viet1
09-11-08, 06:05
Hi,

been reading the forum but not really adding much so I thought I better as I am off to HCM again in about 6 weeks (4th time this year). Last trip I hit the bars around the Sheraton. Most are called after a number and all within a few hundred metres of the Sheraton. I found them all pretty much the same, girls ready to go to a st hotel with you which I like as sometimes I don't feel like wasting time and I like the idea of choosing my girl first.

Because I visited regularly I got to know the Mamasan in some of them and I do believe that her advice was simple for a newbie. If you go to a bar then it is all pretty straight forward and safe as they have a pretty efficient system working. Prices vary a little but usually they all settle for $20 for the bar, $20 for ST hotel and the girl is the part that varies but usually I was happy with $70. I found out later from both the girl and mamasan that the bar takes 50% of the girl price so that's why girls really try to bargin hard. If you barter before leaving the bar then sometimes the girl made me tell the mamasan the price agreed to so the mamasan didn't think the girl was trying to rip her off.

My operation is simple, go to a few bars, pay the price but get the girls number and then deal direct. This worked really well last time and I got the ST hotel for $15 instead of $20 and the girl got the whole $70, so for $90 I was happy and so was she. The only problem was it then was hard to get rid of her. The only reason I wanted to off-load her was I was after a little variety and didn't want the same girl every night. She was cute and very sweet and willing to do anything although at times she did over act a bit!

I will now put a little story into the "other areas" section about the street girls.

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Viet1
09-11-08, 06:29
Well on my last trip to HCM in July I met up with many wonderful ladies but none were about to let me take a photo. One girl told me that they were told by mamasan not to let men take photos as it could cause trouble for them and her. So I took my camera on each encounter only not to be able to use it. I told my friend and he found the same (especially around dist 1) but he found that if you promised no head shots and showed them the photo then he managed to get some and in one case the girl was soooooooo hot that he told her he would give her a tip if she posed for him and she did. Next time I will try and give that a try but I do suggest not putting faces onto the site as it is a little unfair to them so block out the face before posting.

Viet1
09-11-08, 07:09
Those of you experienced with HCM girls. How do you find them?

What I mean is do you think they are good as I have found 99% very nice girls but pretty poor in the bedroom. Inexperienced and not willing to do much except the basics or otherwise they overact and make too much noise like a bad porno. I have come across very few really good girls and usually have to try and teach them what to do.

What happened to the sexy tease, foreplay and variety! Some I even told the mamasan that the girl was sweet but really bad when it came to doing the deed. She said only regulars ever complain and people passing through are happy with what they get.

So what have you guys found them like in general?

Wendella
09-11-08, 16:11
I will now put a little story into the "other areas" section about the street girls.


I think 'Other Areas' is for places in Vietnam that aren't HCMC or Hanoi. If it's about HCMC, should probably go in HCMC General Info. If it's not HCMC, well, never mind. ;)

Jacky33
09-11-08, 18:00
I have went to club 97 and gossip during the past month. So far I think club 97 is better although more expensive. Club 97 has two floors....first floor is hip hop and 2nd floor is electronic music. Club 97 is also nicer inside also. Club 97 has alot more stunners also compared to Gossip. However most of the stunners I saw were with other guys so it might be tough to hit on them. Gossip the girls are just ok in my opinion...I barely see any real stunners there.

Newbie
09-15-08, 17:37
Club 97 has alot more stunners also compared to Gossip. However most of the stunners I saw were with other guys so it might be tough to hit on them. Gossip the girls are just ok in my opinion...I barely see any real stunners there.

Club 97 hardly has any FLs around and the few I saw went there with customers. I do agree that the FLs at Gossip are average looking but I have found a few that are stunners. Also quite a hand few of the Lady Customers are really hot. Especially thoes around the dance floor as well as in front of the DJ booth

Jacky33
09-15-08, 19:33
Went to Allez Booz on Friday night. My opinion is that place is pretty bad if you are looking for girls. The working girls were usually not great looking and saw a couple of seahag freelancers there also. I went there late so maybe the top notch quality girls were gone already....but I definitely wouldnt go back there again.

Fresh Meat 2
09-16-08, 09:33
I hope I can get some info from those members more experienced in HCM city than I. I am after some info on the "greenroom".

A friend of a friend that was recently based in HCM city, swears by a place with this name, I have googled it and searched this site but nothing comes up.

It sounds like a bar with pool tables, large screen tvs and most importantly very pretty girls that do very naughty things for 100K dong.

Any help much appreciated.

Jaimito Cartero
10-03-08, 15:58
I had printed out a bunch of pages before I left on my trip, and in going through all of them today, I saw Cafe 29, and thought I'd check it out, since it was within walking distance of my hotel.

It might have been early (4:30pm), but there were only a couple of girls there, including the bar tender. There was one white dude in there, but I'm not sure if he was the owner.

A friendly lady, Win, came up and was working on separating me from my cash as soon as possible. She hit me up for a LD immediately, which I usually avoid paying, but at 50K, I thought I could afford it.

That got me a free hand up my short, and her playing with Mr. Happy. I also got a DFK, and my hands got to go everywhere I tried with no problem. She scarfed the drink down, and wanted another after just 5 minutes. Er, no thanks. When I was deciding if I would take her, I checked out her tits, and she pulled her bra down, and let me fondle them a bit. A decent attitude.

I ask how much for a BBBJ upstairs, and she quotes me 500k, which is 200k more than has been reported on. I protested a bit, but she said that was the price now. I was probably paying the Gringo tax, but I did try vigorously to pay the 300k, to no avail. I end up paying the 500k upfront.

We head upstairs, to some little couches, and pull my shorts and underwear off. She goes to town, after using some handiwipes to freshen up the dick a bit. She went to town, and did a pretty good job. I can't say I lasted long, probably 8 minutes, if I'm lucky. She then started whining for a tip, which at a 500k price, I thought was silly.

I then go downstairs to settle up the bill (30k water, 50k LD). I paid with a 100k note, and the girl is still whining for money. They have no change. They finally come up with a 20k note, and Win grabs it and says, "Tip". I wasn't going to fight about it, and just took off.

Wendella
10-04-08, 08:17
Senor Cartero:

Interesting. You got your service done in the main room upstairs, or inside the cubbyhole?

Normally that would happen in the cubbyhole, or that's how it has been.

I ask because last night I was there and wanted to go with my girl upstairs, but she said we couldn't unless we were going up there for extra activities -- if that's a rule, it's a very new rule. I was upstairs not getting extra activities just this past week, with the same girl.

If this is the case, it would suck because the best thing about that bar is going upstairs to hang out with your girl on a sofa. They'll never be able to get me in the mood if I can only ever hang out downstairs in the bar. And actually I can't see going there if it's just to hang out downstairs at the bar. Boring.

Jaimito Cartero
10-04-08, 13:26
Yes, it was on the normal couches. Maybe I'm too big to fit in the cubbyhole? :) As I was a close to blowing my wad, a girl was coming up the stairs, and my blow-mistress told her to wait. I have no idea, of course, what is normal here.


Senor Cartero:

Interesting. You got your service done in the main room upstairs, or inside the cubbyhole?

Normally that would happen in the cubbyhole, or that's how it has been.

I ask because last night I was there and wanted to go with my girl upstairs, but she said we couldn't unless we were going up there for extra activities -- if that's a rule, it's a very new rule. I was upstairs not getting extra activities just this past week, with the same girl.

If this is the case, it would suck because the best thing about that bar is going upstairs to hang out with your girl on a sofa. They'll never be able to get me in the mood if I can only ever hang out downstairs in the bar. And actually I can't see going there if it's just to hang out downstairs at the bar. Boring.

Jaimito Cartero
10-05-08, 17:49
Well, I was looking around the Go2 Bar area, and stopped there to have a drink. Saw a few friendly local girls, but nothing that caught my eye. I also had a girl a block away standing on the corner, and she looked interesting, but I'm wary of girls on the street like that. Maybe it's just me. :)

I had wanted to check out Rivev's, but couldn't find it.

I finally went into Li Li's, since I was at the end of the street almost. 4 or 5 ladies working. 3 of them pretty unfuckable. Bought one decent looking one a LD for 50k, although her friend tried to order her a 60k one. Got a little LFK going on, and she was massaging my dick through my shorts. Fairly high pressure from the other girls there to buy them drinks too, but no such luck for them.

The 25 yo I was sitting with, wanted 1 million for ST. She wasn't that nice looking, so I tried to see if she'd go down on the price, but no such luck. So, I called it a night, and came back to my luxury, er, 3 star, hotel.

The maids are cute here, I'd really like to fuck a couple of them, but I'd put that on the "probably not possible in the hotel list".

Gunnerre
10-06-08, 15:28
After reading all the "good" reports about "the corner bar" I was really looking forward to some nice action. Unfortunately it did not go like that. Perhaps also because of lack of my own experience. I found a very pretty dream girl, which ended as a horror girl. And I should have seen it comming. Her attitude was wong from the beginning as she looked kind of sad/angry. When we stepped into the shower she pulled the shower curtain with me outside and finally after 10 min, I had to send her away. With her attitude she could have paralyzed a horny bull. So I guess the conclusion is: No bar is better than the girls and you take care to go for attitude more than beauty.

And this was actually just the worst of two bad experiences with Thien loc.So sorry guys - it is not the easy choice to pick the "corner bar"

Wendella
10-07-08, 06:58
I finally went into Li Li's,
Which one is Li Li's? If you're eyeing your maids and thinking wishfully, things aren't going too well. Pham Ngu Lao is one of the last places I'd go looking for something to end the night with.

Jaimito Cartero
10-08-08, 15:38
Which one is Li Li's? If you're eyeing your maids and thinking wishfully, things aren't going too well. Pham Ngu Lao is one of the last places I'd go looking for something to end the night with.

I had a really hot maid! :)

Li Li's is a way down the road from Go2 Bar. I had checked the area out, and thought I'd at least give it a try. :)

OzzieSuds
10-08-08, 23:15
Those of you experienced with HCM girls. How do you find them?

What I mean is do you think they are good as I have found 99% very nice girls but pretty poor in the bedroom. Inexperienced and not willing to do much except the basics or otherwise they overact and make too much noise like a bad porno. I have come across very few really good girls and usually have to try and teach them what to do.

What happened to the sexy tease, foreplay and variety! Some I even told the mamasan that the girl was sweet but really bad when it came to doing the deed. She said only regulars ever complain and people passing through are happy with what they get.

So what have you guys found them like in general?

I actually enjoy the inexperienced ones and the need to give them a little on the job training. Agree with you about the excessive noises.

Algol2000
10-12-08, 00:44
How much do you usually pay in Ho Chi Minh for girls?

I ask to avoid overprived girls and ripping off.

In Cambodia I used to pay 15-35$ however I had a viet girl there for 35$ and she was useless, crap, refused to do a "BJ" and didn't like touching, later I found other viet girls, were ok, cheaper 20-30$ and quality also much better.

I will be in Ho chi Minh soon, so I need to find any good girl, not too greedy, no scam. Can you advise me?

I need a cheap hotel, well, a/c and hot water would be nice, where I can bring a gf. Or any pubs with rooms for ST or LT.

Jaimito Cartero
10-12-08, 10:55
I didn't find any cheap girls in my HCMC trip. I checked out 4 different HBT places, and after buying a LD, and then finding out you didn't click with them, and you want to check out another lady, they then whine about wanting a 50k-100k tip, after just a few minutes. Paying $100 for a couple of hours (including money for the bar), just isn't my idea of a good deal. VN chicas can be very hot, but I didn't find the service level there. It was always a "You have lots of money, give it to me'.

Even when you have a negotiated deal, in my experiences, they will try to change the deal, leave early, get paid up front, and offer mediocre service. And still ask for tips. Thankfully I didn't pay up front, as I learned long ago, that if they have the cash in hand, you probably won't be happy.

I loved the service in the Hot Toc places. Super cute girls who you can feel up a bit while you get a nice massage.

The *5 star Hyatt I stayed in was good. I don't think I would ever pay the over $400 a night rate I would have had to pay for it, if not using some free nights. At best, it was a $200 a night room. The 3 star I stayed in for $32 a night was a bit better. However, some huge gaps in service. No wake up call, when I requested it twice. Luckily I woke myself up, or I would have been screwed. Also, scalding water coming out of the shower (both hot and cold settings!), which left me with a head full of later to figure out how to get clean. At least no problem bringing girls in.

I liked Vietnam quite a bit. The food was great, lots of interesting stuff to buy, etc. I just wouldn't put it on my top 5 mongering destinations in Asia.

Mash Potatoes
10-12-08, 11:04
Even when you have a negotiated deal, in my experiences, they will try to change the deal, leave early, get paid up front, and offer mediocre service. And still ask for tips.

Totally agree. The girls in VN are a bit too commercial and lack customer service orientation. Actually, I would say that it is the mentality of 'most' Vietnamese service providers, be it sex, food, shopping or even banking. They have this attitude of 'rip' the foreigners off cause they're on holidays, never thinking about return customers or word of mouth recommendations.

Wendella
10-12-08, 13:24
I loved the service in the Hot Toc places. Super cute girls who you can feel up a bit while you get a nice massage.

Hey so which places exactly are you referring to here? Which area? Any specific ones?

Sorry things didn't click for you in HCMC -- it takes a bit of luck these days, but when it does click, it really does. And when it doesn't, it really doesn't.

Jaimito Cartero
10-13-08, 19:02
I don't consider Vietnam a bust. I go to many places that I don't even monger in. I consider it a bonus when I can find an enjoyable place, and get a bit of a release.

I stayed about a block away from the New World Hotel. Off the top of my head, the 3 star hotel I stayed at was the Li Anh Hotel. I'll try to find their card, when I get back home. Normal room was $35 a night, $32 if you stay at least a few nights. The Hot Toc I went to is right next door. Across the street, and a couple doors down is the Lion Cafe (A Singaporean place).

I have some pictures of the Hot Toc girls, while they're working. I don't know that anyone would want to see them, but most of them were cute.


Hey so which places exactly are you referring to here? Which area? Any specific ones?

Sorry things didn't click for you in HCMC -- it takes a bit of luck these days, but when it does click, it really does. And when it doesn't, it really doesn't.

Jacky33
10-13-08, 20:35
I don't consider Vietnam a bust. I go to many places that I don't even monger in. I consider it a bonus when I can find an enjoyable place, and get a bit of a release.

I stayed about a block away from the New World Hotel. Off the top of my head, the 3 star hotel I stayed at was the Li Anh Hotel. I'll try to find their card, when I get back home. Normal room was $35 a night, $32 if you stay at least a few nights. The Hot Toc I went to is right next door. Across the street, and a couple doors down is the Lion Cafe (A Singaporean place).

I have some pictures of the Hot Toc girls, while they're working. I don't know that anyone would want to see them, but most of them were cute.


Post the pictures of the Hot Toc girls Jaimito. I would love to see them as with the rest of the other fellows I am sure. Thanks for your reports very informative.

Algol2000
10-13-08, 23:36
Thanks guys

Visitng 3rd world coutries each foreing vistor is like a "walking sack of dollars" so ripping off is a normal daily task there...so to minimise a risk of stealing i prefer to know some rules, someone's experience can help me.

what do you reccomend as good/bad, any examples of scam, stealing, con,etc.? i don't want to loose my passport, wallet, etc.

Saigon Ican
10-14-08, 14:01
How much do you usually pay in Ho Chi Minh for girls?

I ask to avoid overprived girls and ripping off.

In Cambodia I used to pay 15-35$ however I had a viet girl there for 35$ and she was useless, crap, refused to do a "BJ" and didn't like touching, later I found other viet girls, were ok, cheaper 20-30$ and quality also much better.

I will be in Ho chi Minh soon, so I need to find any good girl, not too greedy, no scam. Can you advise me?On the low end 300-500k for sex. There are many places in this price range but probably the easiest for tourists would be around Pham Ngu Lao.

Jaimito Cartero
10-15-08, 19:47
Here was my favorite Hot Toc girl. She gave me a massage upstairs. As long as no one else was in the room (they seemed to put all foreigners in this room), my hands could roam quite a bit during the massage. I tried to set up a date outside, but no luck. I don't recall seeing any girls here, that I wouldn't fuck. This Hot Toc is right next door to the hotel I stayed at. (Check in HCMC Hotel forum).

80k for the hour long massage, and then a 50% or so tip.

SaltyDog
10-21-08, 21:46
Guys,

We need to stop going to these places unless you want to take a girl to your hotel in 5 minutes or less. The attitude is bad and now the girls are demanding money just to sit with you. Not like before you just buy them a drink then talk about leaving, I did not and pissed off a couple of girls there. Instead I went to Apocalypse and took my time while having a few beers. Music loud but no rush. I liked that. Girls want 1mil to stay with you until 2am. Better to pay extra after the shit I had to go through at the 91, 51 and 49.

Algol2000
10-28-08, 09:35
I will be there this weekend, so any good and bad info can help me a lot. where can I have a good blow-job, or ST in a pub? I don't want to take a girl to my room

OzzieSuds
10-29-08, 01:46
I will be there this weekend, so any good and bad info can help me a lot. where can I have a good blow-job, or ST in a pub? I don't want to take a girl to my room

Try Bar 29 on Dong Khoi or Smiley on Thai Van Lung. In the other bars the gals will take you to ST hotel - but be careful.

Algol2000
10-29-08, 02:24
Be careful?

What do you mean?

Any robberies, scams?

Dragonfly22
10-30-08, 13:42
I'll be in hcmc in early Dec. If anyone wants to get together pm me. I'll have a friend along also , the more the merrier!

Moonk123
10-30-08, 16:36
Oblivion is closed down (now an ice cream bar), Rivevs is overpriced (a not particularly attractive girl there opened at $100US. No way). There are a couple of bars down do quyen dau (off bui vien/pham) like 33 bar

The pham area generally seems to be being "cleaned up" a bit recently and everything has krept further away from de tham

You can still get girls to go ST for around 4-500kVND, LT for 6-800 (girls seem to really not like going LT unless they know you already, then they start giving you freebies in the hope you'll pick them up as a GF)

From Apocalypse you can usually get a girl to go LT for 5-600

The better advice is to just not go near Dist1, once you get a little further out in Dist 3, 10, 5 you can spot bia om's everywhere (sign says "Nha Hang" or restaurant, but all they have downstair is a pink light and bike parking), or ca phe om's which are usually easier to spot by the gaggle of girls in small clothing hanging around. You won't get the girl to go with you straight away, but you'll get a phone number and arrange a hookup later, sometimes these girls will take as little as 300K and will be quite young (though not too young, sometimes it is best to check ID and remember that the legal age in Nam is 18) and quite malleable if not too experienced, and very good looking

The girls in dist1 have gotten far too jaded and pushy with so many foreigners willing to drop $100+ for a quick punt.

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Han Man
10-31-08, 03:39
It has been a year since I was in HCMC and by reading the last several months posts, it seems like the situation in Dist 1 for punters is getting out of control. As I have read the reports I am amazed by the changes that require for pay-o-la at every step. Dist 1 is the most convenient area for me from my hotel. That is why I like it best.

The posts about Dist 3, 5, and 10 are good but being a newbie in HCMC it sure would help having some more details. I prefer the HBT type of bars where I walk in, am greeted by nice hostess', make my choice, and then leave for outside enjoyment, et al.

I return November and would appreciate any additional information about the general scene.

In the past I have always left happy with nothing but great experiences, thanks to all you guys and your expertise. Many thanks to you all. Your words of wisdom are once again appreciated.

Algol2000
11-01-08, 06:16
Where is this Lili Bar? And Go2?

I am now on Pham Nao Street, and need to find something soon, however my hotel is girls unfriendly.

Algol2000
11-02-08, 02:41
Latest (last night) info

AlleBooz is open but it looks like a standard restaurant

Smiley. I was told something bad about iot, thet girls ripp off only, no sex

Bar29. Some girls but not speaking english, 50$ for ST ot 80$ for one night in many palces I was offered a massage girl for 40$ per hour

Finally I experienced some scam I guess, a pimp + motorbike+ girl offered me ". Everything, bum-bum, BJ. Everything. " for 60$, one night, pretty chic 18 years old, speaking very poor english, few words only. This price should cover everything, including hotel 10$, and it means nothing was offer, we went there about midnight, in the room someone knocked the door, talked to the girl in vietnamese, she couldn't epxplain me what is going on, so took her mobile ophone and typed " police check room one oclock big problems". I don't want to have any problems with police in this country, so we finished one BJ only, very poor quality, girl din't want to do it better, also refused me sex from behind what I like very much, she became angry. So this was the most expensive and poor BJ in my life so far. Later when we left the hotel at 1. 05 am, I didn't see any police. So I guess that was a scam to leave me earlier and quickly earn 60$ for almost nothing within one hour. I wish I earned so well. 60$/h for doing practically nothing.

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Crusher777
11-15-08, 18:33
Its been about year since I've been back in HCMC. Going to be there on Nov 22. What are the new clubs to catch out and places to go to chill out?

Viet1
11-17-08, 12:31
Been reading a lot of reports at how bad Dist. 1 has got but I am here now at to me anyway it is still OK. My work last trip payed off big time, I just went to bars picked nice lady and got her number and now deal direct with her and 2 others. Much better as they get to keep more of the money and I get it cheaper and get great company to boot!

Too many guys here I see are trapped into some sort of relationship with Viet girls and they are bleeding them dry and being a pain in the neck to them. Poor guys! Will have some great stories to tell on my return as I have given myself some challenges to make things more fun. I also have a mamasan friend here and she always fills me in on what has been happening between my trips so a warning is a scam where you go with girl from a moto driver and then he arranges the supposed angry and upset girl to bash on your door as you are about to do the deed and try to get the girl out and you lose the money. Anyway better go as I am keeping a lady waiting.

DirtyOldMan
11-19-08, 05:33
I was yesterday in this club and had a very nice brunette, well built, to drink with. Name was Linh. But she doesn't like FrenchKiss, and I had the feeling she would not do. I wanted however to try her skills before taking her for a night (80 do). Price of BJ upstairs was unrealistic : 500 000 dongs; impossible to get it lowered, or simply to get a quick blowjob at the bar (few people). When I decided to leave, she wanted a tip! And got angry because she had none.

I hope it can help.

Dirty Old Man

Cowa Banga
11-20-08, 22:15
Moonk,

You got your shit down. We want to keep most of the guys in D1. Don't Eff it up for yourself and me.

OzzieSuds
11-21-08, 01:25
Gotta say that I think the reports about the bar action in D1 are a bit sad but they don't align with my experiences. I don't hit these bars very often but I remain pretty well known.

The mama at NY Saigon on Dong Du always waves and says hello and I occasionally go in and buy her a drink. She tells me that the price for me is still VND1.2 mil even though I have not taken a girl from her in 6 months. I stay friendly with her so that I can easily take visitors there. I often drink across the road at the Chili bar where there is supposedly no action but don't believe that. Run by mama and daughter and I would love to do the daughter.

A couple of weeks ago I had overdone the scotch and headed into Bar 29 for a little touchie-feelie. Came across a gal by the name of Maie who had started the day before and was very playful. The mama only wanted VND1 mil for all night so I went for it. The scotch wore off by the morning and she was excellent. Now she is in my phone for direct access.

I hate to say this but I think that some of these bars (especially the ones on HBT) are taking advantage of guys that are too lazy or otherwise unwilling to negotiate. And it would appear that they are finding enough suckers to think that they can do it all the time.

The key to negotiation with these people to make it quite clear that you don't care and will walk away if the price is not right. You walk towards the door and they will run after you with an offer. Its all part of the game!

Iamnaughty
11-21-08, 11:52
Bros, I had my trip wasted last time, . Don't want to do that again next week. Can any of you guys tell me the best place to, .

1. Go. Choose. Fuck.come back. (all in one place. Since good hotels, most likely donot allow guests)

2. Pickup quality girls to hotel (in case if the hotel allows)

Help!

OzzieSuds
11-22-08, 01:38
Bros, I had my trip wasted last time, . Don't want to do that again next week. Can any of you guys tell me the best place to, .

1. Go. Choose. Fuck.come back. (all in one place. Since good hotels, most likely donot allow guests)

2. Pickup quality girls to hotel (in case if the hotel allows)

Help!

RTFF - all the information that you seek is there.

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-22-08, 12:21
This is my last stop in Vietnam. I arrived this morning, on the train from Da Nang, and staying at a small hotel on Mac Thi Buoi. I'll be around for at least 4 days.
Yes I RTFF and have my notes so I'll go exploring and see what I can come up with.
If anyone else is in the area and want to meet for a drink just PM me.

Thanks for all the info you guys post here.

Mike

PS: I'm a few day behind in posting about my adventures in Hue and Da Nang. Nothing great to report but I'l do it as soon as I have time.

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-23-08, 05:31
My first night was fun and fruitful and I learned some things.
As I was headed out that evening it started raining hard and after 3 day of rain in Hue and Da Nang I was very disappointed. After about an hour it stopped raining, and not knowing how long it would last and really wanting to get something, I decided to take an easy route and walked over to a bar on Dong Khoi Street for one of their BJ’s for 300,000.
The place had about 15 ladies working and as soon as I sat down one had sat down next to me. I’ll admit that she wasn’t a young beauty but she was very nice and feeling a little desperate I bought her a drink. We talked about the options and we agreed to 4 hours at my hotel for $50.00. We walked the couple of blocks hand in hand back to my hotel, we went in, she gave her ID to the front desk, no problem, and up to my room.
Once inside she was ready, hugging, kissing and feeling each other up. She danced around as she undressed, then to the shower, she called me in for a clean up, we dried off and got on the bed. She was a true pro and really knew her stiff. Round 1, rest, round 2, rest then went outside for a bite to eat at a street place, round 3, and 4 and half hours later we said good night. At the bar she said she’d do everything and she did, although I didn’t try anal. Her name was Suony, 35 years old, short with a little flab but a dynamo in bed.
So what I learned:
Number one, before she left she said she wanted to see me the next day and explained that when she saw me outside like that she would not have to split the money with the club. I kept telling her I couldn’t because I had plans but somewhere in the back of my mind I felt she would show up. I should have been firmer with her from the start. She gave me her number and told me call her. In the morning I went down to the front desk and told them that if she shows up just tell her I’ve already left.
Number two, after Suony left it was still kind of early, around 11:30 PM, and it wasn’t raining so I thought I’d check out the places along Hai Be Trung. I stopped at 3 places and found out getting a cute young girl was easier than I thought. What I did wrong was kind of set up a meeting the next day with the girl at the first place telling her I’d be back to the bar tomorrow to take her out, more to get her to go away but it didn’t work. Now I wonder if I can go back there again without trouble. Not a big deal because there are plenty of other places.
Walking back to my hotel I heard some loud music and went to check it out, it was Apocalypse Now. At my age I don’t like loud music so I didn’t go in but there were a lot of young, I guess18-25, girls outside on both sides of the street. I didn’t talk to any of them, no body offered me a girl and none of them asked if I wanted to take them to my hotel but it was fun looking at these beauties. I just might go in next time just to look around.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-23-08, 15:49
I stopped at another place last night but this time I told the first girl that I was just looking around and if I liked someone I would choose her. She understood and left me alone, I think she told the other girls too because they did leave me alone.
As I sat at the bar drinking my Coke I watched the girls laughing and kidding around with each other and one girl caught my eye. There was just something about her personality, from across the room, that struck me, I invited her to sit with me and I bought her a drink. We got along great and she was funny too. I told her I’d been traveled all night on the train and was too tired to take her then. She said she could come to my room the next morning at 10 AM and she could stay for a few hours before she starts work at 1:30 PM. She gave me her number and I told her I would call her at 9:30 so she would know that I did indeed wanted to see her.
I did call her and she did make it to my room by 10. She wanted to shower first because she said she was still asleep when I called so she didn’t have time.
The sex was great, lots of foreplay, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, she came 3 times, 69 and several positions finishing doggie. When we were done we laid together for a while. Then she got up, removed the condom, cleaned me up with a wet towel and started getting dressed. I asked where she was going and she said she had to go. WTF!
Now I’m not going to fight with her about it so I let her get dressed. But what pissed me off even more was she claimed that she told me $70.00 and I remember it being $50.00. There was no negotiating at the bar or anything, I know she said $50 and I was OK with that so I agreed.
I gave her the last $65.00 I had and asked her to leave. So you think you know how to pick em, well I messed up on this one big time. Oh well at least the one shot was very nice.
Her name is Ly and she works at the Cali Bar on Mac Tai Buoi.

Mike

Viet1
11-24-08, 05:13
Hi everyone and hey Realniceguy,

You did well I wouldn't beat myself up!

It can be hit and miss and rules change in a heartbeat and they all develop bad memories from time to time but you got the right angle for HCM.

I been going there for some time now and have guys I know that now live and work there and have married some Viet girls. I also know a mamasan very well and she is a friend and we often go to dinner etc and she will always fix me up with any thing I want, it's just like placing an order I keep her secret and she looks after me. I also have seen the same girl from one of those bars off and on for the past couple of years and we are so comfortable together. I usually pay between $50 and $70 USD for a girl. But getting a hot girl that knows what she is doing is really tough in Vietnam and when I say knows what they are doing I mean creating the mood, being sexy, foreplay, teasing, sexy underwear. The whole bit. They just have no idea, not really their fault it's just the way it is. For every awesome lover you will come across a hundred duds. They all look super hot and they all flirt and wear tight and sexy clothes but when it come to the bedroom that's where it usually stops. So Realniceguy you did well!

Cheers

Viet1
11-24-08, 05:28
As mentioned before I have a mamasan as a friend and always joked about doing her but actually had set myself a target this time to try and get her into bed. Now she is not youg and cute but great english, funny and she claims to be 30 but I would say she is about 38 and lying. So finally got her to say yes and no hotel to pay as she is some how hooked up with the owner and she only hit me up for a low price but that was because we know each other and often catch up for lunch etc. She was awesome, she actually knew how to build the moment and make it hot and sexy.

She showers and gets dressed in a sexy set of underwear in a closed bathroom. Then comes out and struts in front of me always teasing, beds over and asks me if I want it. She french kisses does everything and gets me so damn hot that I was about to go crazy and then she just got better and we tried any position I could think of till I could hold out no longer!

She then lies with me and we cuddle and then she gives me massage, orders a drink to the room and we lie in the semi dark room and chat and laugh and finally head off for dinner. Loved every sexy moment and gave her a tip, bought dinner and told her she was very good.

So although a friend she is also a hot lover, slow, sexy and awesome and we are even closer than before but not interested in a relationship just good SEX!

Thought I would just share that with you guys.

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Dragonfly22
12-07-08, 00:52
Had a great session yesterday with a 30 something honey, not the best in the looks department but excellent service. Great huge rack also, and knows how to use her mouth. near 49 HBT but will stop again today and get correct address. BBBJCIM 5oo,000VND and 2 lady drinks at 50,000vnd. Not rushed and there was no one in the place but me and a friend and he had a fiery lil thing that provided the same. All in all I give it a solid 8.

OzzieSuds
12-07-08, 11:31
What RNG and Viet ! have struck on is that even the girls in the bars are individuals and they are not tied to the bar for now or certainly in the future.

Many gals come to SGN to the bars and don't last long and move onto other jobs. But if you have met them and treated them nice a pleasant relationship can be had.

Dragonfly22
12-07-08, 19:54
Returned again yesterdat for a repeat performance and was not dissappointed. Only the lil fierey one was there. Great personality and very straight forward. give her a 9 in service performance. 500,000 vnd for the cimbbbj she explained the afternoon service is better because no one is usually there and lots of time on their hands to play. Workes for me. Bangin' lil body on this spinner too, wouldn't mind trying full service there on my return. Happy hunting.

Viet1
12-12-08, 10:32
Thanks Sudsoz you hit the nail on the head with this comment!


What RNG and Viet 1 have struck on is that even the girls in the bars are individuals and they are not tied to the bar for now or certainly in the future.

Many gals come to SGN to the bars and don't last long and move onto other jobs. But if you have met them and treated them nice a pleasant relationship can be had.Yes I guess that is my point, these girls are not locked in and they usually end up in HBT when they arrive from some of the outer provinces because its easy and these places always take new girls.

They usually love the idea of hooking up witha regular guy and not having to split their money with the bar. I sort of dig around and come up with one of these type of girls and get her number and then on every trip I give them a call and hook up with them. Buy them a few meals etc, treat them well and they will do anything for you. So now I have my regulars and then I keep my eye out for a piece of new talent on each trip.

I still love this place because I guess its not easy and its sort of fun to work on it and pull a good girl. I even send them short text messages between trips to keep them hooked for when I get back!

Dragonfly22
12-19-08, 04:30
Repeat of my earlier post with same spinner. You just can't beat a pro. Had been off my game with the hot weather and lots of travel. Lil girl took away all the pain, abit worn but knows her business. Was there again early, must prefer the afternoon trade and that's the way I like it too. She warned me about some of the bar girls and some of the scams they're running. Happy hunting!

Mr Paranoid
12-29-08, 16:06
RTFF - all the information that you seek is there.Eh. What is RTFF? Is it "Read The F'ing Forum"?

And what exactly is DATY short for. Sorry. I am new.

Thanks for the help.

OzzieSuds
12-29-08, 20:37
Eh. What is RTFF? Is it "Read The F'ing Forum"?

And what exactly is DATY short for. Sorry. I am new.

Thanks for the help.

If you look at the top of your screen there is a blue bar and smack in the middle is 'abbreviations'. Click there and all is revealed.

Frimu
01-03-09, 14:23
After reading the forum and understanding that HBT 51 means what is described in length in the title above, I went to see that bar.

10 girls rushed out when the door opened and said Hello to me. Their looks range from o.k. to excellent.

Very soon a girl named Keeh from Hanoi joined me. She looked great and soon after heavy DFK and more stuff going on. So I obviously wanted to fuck her.

Initial offer 75 dollars for one hour shorttime. I refused by saying that this is too much. Second offer: one million dong and paying in advance. I agreed to the price but not to the conditions. So finally we were at one million and payment in the hotel to the girl. That was fine for me and ripoff-safe.

In the hotel this girl went off like a rocket, unbelievable! She had a funny attitude and provided excellent service.

First she covered herself in bed and pretended to be shy and smiled at me. Then I ripped the cover off and we went to DFK and touching, hugging, etc.

The BBBJ was great: She always moved her hand halfway round the cock and sucked it simultaneously which resulted in a really good feeling. Then sex in different positions and came on the body and tits.

Then I paid her and happily fell asleep.

In her case the money was really worth it!

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Terwagne
01-05-09, 09:08
Out of the four bars of HBT, I found Thien Loc to have the best ambiance. Blonde Thuyit was playing pool and had just arrived from the province (no mobile phone!) and I was her second customer. Off to mini-hotel of my choosing (opposist Ho Sen hotel). Good body, nice performance. USD 65

Basah
01-06-09, 17:03
Initial offer 75 dollars for one hour shorttime. I refused by saying that this is too much. Second offer: one million dong and paying in advance.Wow, more expensive than Hong Kong in places.

Thanks for the reference point.

SaltyDog
01-07-09, 01:10
Repeat of my earlier post with same spinner. You just can't beat a pro. Had been off my game with the hot weather and lots of travel. Lil girl took away all the pain, abit worn but knows her business. Was there again early, must prefer the afternoon trade and that's the way I like it too. She warned me about some of the bar girls and some of the scams they're running. Happy hunting!Yes I know the woman very well. She there with mature woman with big tits and does the buy me soda and starts the feel up thing and talks nasty. I ran into her in late morning and about 2pm and had different experiences with her upstairs by the pool table, with a nice fan blowing on you while he is ummmm, well you know. Yeah nice nice bod and always go there when I first get to HCMC She always happy to see me again and says the same thing about being careful. She wants the guys for herself of course. Maybe I go back in Feburary or March and say Hello, again But in the evening OMG. I prefer 91, younger and prettier chicks there. 51 and 49 too close together with the same attitudes. But always like better going to Apocalyspe Now better because I don't like to be rushed about going to hotel and getting in on. Music loud there but fun.

Terwagne
01-09-09, 09:43
walked into thein loc, hai ba trung at 2. 30 pm during a break between morning and late afternoon meetings. decently populated place. 50, 000 dong or 3 usd lady drink for cuddles and kisses to get you in the mood. small fong with long curly hair accepted (barfine d 300, 000) to join me for some fun at my hotel, the nearby riverside renaissance. (visitors allowed before 9 pm with registration at reception) shower together, then she asked: would you like me to shave? small breasts with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) figure but very talented and reactive girl. a tad more classy than the avaerage. recommended. she told me she often works at the brix. grand hyatt singapore. damage 80 usd. afternoon or dinner-time fun in decent surroundings beats gloomy mini-hotels.

Dawg415
02-01-09, 18:18
I've been living in HCM for the past 4 months and it is a very interesting place. I like the food and the girls. It's nice to be in a place where the weather is good and many of the girls are nice. I have yet to hook up with someone that really knows this town so I've read the forums and tried to make some good connections.

Bar 29 on DK is nice and relaxing and I met a girl who claims to be a newbie and will work for a short while. Something about this girl drew me to her and some other girl, not so good looking, tried to massage me and have me buy her a drink also, but not interested so just stayed with the one girl. The bar maids and boss were very nice. I was never asked to go to the "back room" everyone talks about here, but maybe because the girl was new. I actually had to ask the girl if she wanted to go ST. There was no pressure here, which was nice.

Bar 35 HBT is a small little joint. I had a girl their that really liked to be with me. I took her to a ST and it was fine, but a little bit too skinny for me, but the service was great because I couldn't finish FS style and had to finish with a BJCIM. I guess her body really didn't do it for me. They sure seem to have some other nice talent there which I'd like to try someday.

Bar 51 had some nice looking chicks, better than Bar 35, but I hooked up with a chick that was nice to begin with, went for a ST and felt a bit rushed and business like. Body was nice and taught but the attitude was not so good. I'd go back just to try other girls.

Thien Loc - I went here just for drinks and had a couple of girls try to rush me out of there after 30 minutes. I like this place because it is a feel good place to drink and grope which is always fun. I didn't take the bait as I felt it a bit too expensive for ST. 1.2Mil w/o bar fee. I know it's been slow because of the new year but even when I told them it was too much and started to walk out, there was no negotiating, so I just left. Maybe I will try again as the forums have talked good things about this place.

Bin Bin on Le Thanh ton was a decent place but many of the girls hang upstairs. I guess it depends on the time. So I saw a cute young thing and had a drink and nice groping. Had to head out for dinner and decided to come back another day to try. When I did, took her to ST and it was pretty good, except sometimes with youth comes inexperiences. I had to guide her to get what I want. I know sometimes it's hard to have chemistry right away, but at least some good acting would be nice. Maybe I've been watching too much porn and set different expectations for myself.

Smiley's - Headed to Smiley's one night and I love the way the girls wear no bras. Nice to see and there was this one really tall girl i totally wanted to try but ended up with a shorter chick that sort of worked for me cause I was looking for something meaty. Offered 1mil ST before barfine, said it was too much and she let me walk.

Overall I've obviously been going to the D1 places which are all more expensive than other places outside D1 and I will need to hook up with someone to explore. Some days, I just want a hit and run and somewhere close to D1. I found a Blow and Go place but it is a bit of ways. I'd really like to find more places like this closer to my home in D3.

I have read of places that seem to be accessible to me for a hit and run so I'll try it out. I was able to find a rub and tug place near my home so that gets me buy some days.

Anyone ever feel bad about going back to a bar and seeing a girls you spent time with and telling them not this time and pick someone else. I try not to feel bad but it is quite sad to see that you are moving on to the next notch and they have expired. For me, i just feel life is too short and there is no used into getting attached unless the experience is something that is hard to find or just works for you, so you go back again and again.

If anyone here is living in HCM like me and would like to explore. Let me know. I'm always looking for new talent and experiences.

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Johndao
02-02-09, 08:07
If any of you adventurous types want to try something a little different away from your super expensive D1 HBT haunts, try this. It's not thrilling, it's not the greatest, but it's an ok way to spend a little time, a little money and see the real VN (and cum too)! The place (and there are many many more like it but I will describe 1 place and 1 girl and 1 experience. Go to Lam Van Ben St. in District 7. It's very close to D1 and D4 for those of you with a great fear of leaving the city center. Lam Van Ben runs north-south between Tran Xuan Soan and Nguyen Thi Thap which are parallel East-west roads. Go to a little cafe, number 178a closer to Ng Thi Thap, on the right side heading south. Park your bike and order a coffee. Observe the dogs and the chickens. Go to a little curtained off are in the back where there are just little beach type chairs to sit on. Open your pants and the girl will blow you. Open her shirt, play with her tits, open her pants, play with her ass and pussy. Give them 20,000 for the inside coffee and 100k to the girl who blows you, that's all, no more please! If seated in the outside looking area, you can watch the rooster tied to the try running in circles. Privacy is minimal but nobody wants to look at you. Important point: Look for Lieu, a 24 yo girl from Ben Tre. I saw three girls/women there. Two were absolutely frightening! Lieu is ok, but her facial skin is not great. But she's friendly and has a nice smile and good BJ lips. What's especially interesting though, and the reason I mention all this here, are her Tits and her pussy (hair). Her breasts are near perfect, not too big or small, whit with really big nobby firm protruding nipples. And her pussy hair? In all my years and all the hundreds of Asians I have seen I have never ever seen longer straighter pussy hair. I had her stand up and it must have protruded 5 inches out. So much hair in a small place, not spread out all over the place. But you can still see her small pussy below as the hair is not dense lower. So, the combination of her wonderful tits and nips, the great hair down below, her good attitude and her hard work on BJ make it a worthwhile effort. Oh, I forgot to say, she does not appreciate cum in her mouth and my cock is thick and I pushed her down deeper which made her gaga repeatedly. Hard for her to make me cum. But she uses a side technique which allows a full view of mouth and lips with cock in them. Again, for $7 all told, a fun experience if just to see that hair! One last note, she gave me her number and is happy to go to a hotel next time.

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Joe Nailer
02-10-09, 16:05
I am not that adventurous, but was very curious about this place and so one hot afternoon I got down there on my Yamaha.

I got there about 1.30pm. Nobody was in café except this woman (a tall 30yo) and a man fiddling with a TV remote. She pointed a chair facing the street to sit. I sat there and looked around the place. I noticed some tables and chairs at the back as Johndao mentioned. I said I wanted to sit in there (My Vietnamese is not brilliant but I seem to be able to communicate with gals for the "certain subject" quite well). She clicked then, and took me to the far end of the café.

It wasn’t a long way to the back, but It was a bit surreal. I felt like I was walking in the clouds. There were some roosters cock-a-doodle-dooing loudly, a woman hand-washing clothes, some vegetation everywhere, and scorching midday sun. And here I was to experience some sleazy actions by a unknown woman. But all these add to the atmosphere. Very exciting.

I sat in a chair and she drew the curtains around the place. She came in with a café sữa đá and 3, 4 sets of wet tissues. She sits next to me, puts hand on my lap, and prepares for the drink for me. I sip. She unzips my trousers and coaxes out my half errect dick. She wipes my dick admiringly :) , and my right nipple with the wet tissues. She starts BJ and HJ, and suck my nipple. She places my hand to her tits to fondle. I didn’t fancy to do anything other than this. She is quite good at all these departments. I was there probably only 30 minutes max. I paid 150K VN. She wanted more, but I said next time. And next time I hope I get a younger and prettier one.
I noticed there are a few cafes nearer to the river on that road. I saw a good looking girl in one of these cafes. I wonder if they provide “COE” (Cafe Om Experience). I shall try.

Viet1
02-22-09, 01:56
Hi,

Guess I been going to HCMC for a few years and in the beginning I was more adventurous and now I have slipped into an easier way of doing things and rarely go outside D1. I am only in HCMC for 2 weeks and work all during the day. I have no transport except for taxis.

Any of this info on here all looks good but tell me if this can be done by a taxi dropping me off in some district which I can then get around, have some fun and then get a cab back to my girl unfriendly hotel in D1.

I guess many guys here hit HCMC only for short periods and don’t have any transport and don’t really want to try and use the public bus system late at night and I really only know real basic Vietnamese.

So what would be the best thing for people like us?

I have easily walked from D1 (near Saigon River) all the way down past New World Hotel and back packer area…an easy walk. Can I walk to one of these areas or not?

As I have said I have picked up a few girls of the street in the early days in D1 and they took me on their bike to a st hotel and it was fun and very cheap but I would like to try a little further out if possible…any suggestions?

Cheers,

Viet1

OzzieSuds
03-13-09, 12:27
Hi,

Guess I been going to HCMC for a few years and in the beginning I was more adventurous and now I have slipped into an easier way of doing things and rarely go outside D1. I am only in HCMC for 2 weeks and work all during the day. I have no transport except for taxis.

Any of this info on here all looks good but tell me if this can be done by a taxi dropping me off in some district which I can then get around, have some fun and then get a cab back to my girl unfriendly hotel in D1.

I guess many guys here hit HCMC only for short periods and don’t have any transport and don’t really want to try and use the public bus system late at night and I really only know real basic Vietnamese.

So what would be the best thing for people like us?

I have easily walked from D1 (near Saigon River) all the way down past New World Hotel and back packer area…an easy walk. Can I walk to one of these areas or not?

As I have said I have picked up a few girls of the street in the early days in D1 and they took me on their bike to a st hotel and it was fun and very cheap but I would like to try a little further out if possible…any suggestions?

Cheers,

Viet1

I do much the same as Viet 1 except that I stay in a small GF hotel with only 12 rooms.

I am also a little older but I find that I have little motivation to go to some quickie BJ place when a little bit of work will yield me an all-nighter and the only problem that I have is managing them.

And if I luck out I can always go to one of the bars and pay VND1.2 mil - and some of those gals have been worthwhile keeping in touch with as well.

Viet - if you are staying in the big hotels there are many small places nearby where US$25 will get you a windowless small room where at least you are in control.

OzzieSuds
03-13-09, 12:30
Cali Bar on Mac Thi Boui has shut its doors and I believe it will reincarnate as Trai Ta at 13 Dong Du.

Official Opening is next Sunday 15th March. Unfortunately I will be in Vung Tau.

Joe Nailer
03-13-09, 15:57
Hi,
...
I guess many guys here hit HCMC only for short periods and don’t have any transport and don’t really want to try and use the public bus system late at night and I really only know real basic Vietnamese.

So what would be the best thing for people like us?
...
...but I would like to try a little further out if possible…any suggestions?

Chào các ông
Ok you dont have your own trasnport. I would say taxis are a bit OTT for these places. Bus's no no. Have you tried xe oms which are abundant in HCMC, virtually every street corners you will find them.
For example a taxi ride to TSN airport from D1 is about 60, 70K on meter? Use this as the indicator to determine xe om prices. to TSN by xe om, it should be much less for that distance. Another option, befriend with a xe om driver near your hotel. They know many "places".

When I have to use xe oms (e.g to/from airport), I usually ask the xe om guy, if he knows any con gái (girl) who may provide the service. The other day I was looking for some actions on my moto, but because I am not familier with that area, I asked a xe om guy in that locality. With a little tip, he showed me the way to one place. I think he tried to explain many things but his Vietnamese was too difficult for me. What a shame!
One day, I even stopped by a shoe repair man on a street (I needed my sandals repaired). While he was repairing it, I asked if he knew any cafe oms nearby. He grined at me but could't tell me.

Well you need to make some effort to get what you want.
"The world is your oyster" as they say. Con gái việtnam rất sexy.

Dong Lover
04-07-09, 06:17
I'm going to HCM May 8-10, mainly for mongering and fun.

I'd like to ask if anyone can recommend the Hotel and place to spend great time there.

Hotel / Club (to take girls) or Massage place.

Thanks

Member #2234
04-07-09, 09:20
Hey guys just to let you know of a new place open, it is a bar/nightclub not a disco, it is the typical asian style nightclub where you can go in for a coffee or a beer, has live music and if you want to you can go up to sing too, there are girls in there that will sit with you if you want some company, can't get up to anything naughty in the place but the girls will let you cuddle them etc.

Well if anyone is interested then it is on a side street just off Nguyen Van Troi, you will see the main Yamaha dealer on Ng Van Troi and it is right next to there, it is called the SIEU CUP (super cup) and has live football broadcasting aswell, all the staff are dressed up in Man UTD strips too, the girls are quite cute ;-)

OzzieSuds
04-28-09, 07:29
Some updates on the bar scene in HCMC.

1. Cali bar has moved around to Dong Du - next to Hot Chili bar. Appears to be same personnel.

2. Smiley's has opened new bar called King Coconut at 15B Thi Sach. Gals seem to be moving from one to the other.

3. A pimp in Dong Du was filling my ear with talk about a hotel in District 1 with wall to wall girls. I took a card but did not check it out. Hoang Anh Hotel at 33 Co Giang St in D1

Warmjan
04-28-09, 18:25
Hi,

I'm coming to Vietnam for the first time soon and am interested in trying one of these "Blow and Go" places that Dawg 415 mentions -- I assume from the name it's a place that specializes in quick blow jobs? I probably won't have time to venture too far afield in HCMC but if someone can recommend such a place in an area that a tourist is likely to frequent it would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

WJ





I've been living in HCM for the past 4 months and it is a very interesting place. I like the food and the girls. It's nice to be in a place where the weather is good and many of the girls are nice. I have yet to hook up with someone that really knows this town so I've read the forums and tried to make some good connections.

Bar 29 on DK is nice and relaxing and I met a girl who claims to be a newbie and will work for a short while. Something about this girl drew me to her and some other girl, not so good looking, tried to massage me and have me buy her a drink also, but not interested so just stayed with the one girl. The bar maids and boss were very nice. I was never asked to go to the "back room" everyone talks about here, but maybe because the girl was new. I actually had to ask the girl if she wanted to go ST. There was no pressure here, which was nice.

Bar 35 HBT is a small little joint. I had a girl their that really liked to be with me. I took her to a ST and it was fine, but a little bit too skinny for me, but the service was great because I couldn't finish FS style and had to finish with a BJCIM. I guess her body really didn't do it for me. They sure seem to have some other nice talent there which I'd like to try someday.

Bar 51 had some nice looking chicks, better than Bar 35, but I hooked up with a chick that was nice to begin with, went for a ST and felt a bit rushed and business like. Body was nice and taught but the attitude was not so good. I'd go back just to try other girls.

Thien Loc - I went here just for drinks and had a couple of girls try to rush me out of there after 30 minutes. I like this place because it is a feel good place to drink and grope which is always fun. I didn't take the bait as I felt it a bit too expensive for ST. 1.2Mil w/o bar fee. I know it's been slow because of the new year but even when I told them it was too much and started to walk out, there was no negotiating, so I just left. Maybe I will try again as the forums have talked good things about this place.

Bin Bin on Le Thanh ton was a decent place but many of the girls hang upstairs. I guess it depends on the time. So I saw a cute young thing and had a drink and nice groping. Had to head out for dinner and decided to come back another day to try. When I did, took her to ST and it was pretty good, except sometimes with youth comes inexperiences. I had to guide her to get what I want. I know sometimes it's hard to have chemistry right away, but at least some good acting would be nice. Maybe I've been watching too much porn and set different expectations for myself.

Smiley's - Headed to Smiley's one night and I love the way the girls wear no bras. Nice to see and there was this one really tall girl i totally wanted to try but ended up with a shorter chick that sort of worked for me cause I was looking for something meaty. Offered 1mil ST before barfine, said it was too much and she let me walk.

Overall I've obviously been going to the D1 places which are all more expensive than other places outside D1 and I will need to hook up with someone to explore. Some days, I just want a hit and run and somewhere close to D1. I found a Blow and Go place but it is a bit of ways. I'd really like to find more places like this closer to my home in D3.

I have read of places that seem to be accessible to me for a hit and run so I'll try it out. I was able to find a rub and tug place near my home so that gets me buy some days.

Anyone ever feel bad about going back to a bar and seeing a girls you spent time with and telling them not this time and pick someone else. I try not to feel bad but it is quite sad to see that you are moving on to the next notch and they have expired. For me, i just feel life is too short and there is no used into getting attached unless the experience is something that is hard to find or just works for you, so you go back again and again.

If anyone here is living in HCM like me and would like to explore. Let me know. I'm always looking for new talent and experiences.

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Johndao
04-29-09, 03:32
I'm coming to Vietnam for the first time soon and am interested in trying one of these "Blow and Go" places that Dawg 415 mentions -- I assume from the name it's a place that specializes in quick blow jobs? I probably won't have time to venture too far afield in HCMC but if someone can recommend such a place in an area that a tourist is likely to frequent it would be much appreciated.

WJTry Be Ny (or Ben Ny) at 90 Dien Bien Phu St. in Binh Thanh District, just meters from the District 1 border. Don't pay more than 200k all finished with CIM. Sometimes this place is weird and asks you to buy a ticket for 200k beforehand. At other similar places you give the girl a 100k tip after and pay the manager 70 or 80k after. But at Be Ny I think they will ask you 200k in advance. That's all though, it includes tip. If they push one of the girls on you and you want another you see, DON'T BE SHY. Just point to the one you want, it's your choice. Should be 6 to 8 girls to choose from. Pull her shirt up and feel and lick her tits, pull her panties down and squeeze her ass, finger her pussy and asshole. Make sure she gets your cum in her mouth.

The attached map shows the approximate location as I remember it.

Saigon Ican
04-29-09, 18:24
Some updates on the bar scene in HCMC.

3. A pimp in Dong Du was filling my ear with talk about a hotel in District 1 with wall to wall girls. I took a card but did not check it out. Hoang Anh Hotel at 33 Co Giang St in D1No such thing. They (a pimp) will just call girls one by one to the hotel by motorbike.

OzzieSuds
04-30-09, 00:38
No such thing. They (a pimp) will just call girls one by one to the hotel by motorbike.

One by One on bikes is normal. That's why I thought this was interesting.

Wendella
05-03-09, 12:17
3. A pimp in Dong Du was filling my ear with talk about a hotel in District 1 with wall to wall girls. I took a card but did not check it out. Hoang Anh Hotel at 33 Co Giang St in D1
Reminds me of the 42 virgins one can obtain by going thru with a suicide bombing. Wall to wall indeed. How many hours would you need to wait there looking at one after another before you'd seen enough to stretch from one wall to the other. And how many of those girls would be the same one you saw earlier wearing a different shirt.

Excuse the thickness of the sarcasm, no offense meant, just that, not once in about 9 yrs of listening to motorbike drivers tell me they had lots of girls, have I ever seen more than one at a time, with a good 10 minute wait between that one and the next one. How often is the one who pulls up satisfying? Rare. Rare enough that it's certainly not worth waiting for a single one. Your odds are better pretty much anywhere else you can go.

And yes I know it's a hotel. So you get there, and the place is empty. And then.... yes... you wait... while they get on the cell phone. And then... after about 10 minutes... up pulls a motorbike with one very mediocre girl on the back. So essentially, the hotel is just a trick to get you to sit around waiting for motorbike girls to pull up one at a time, since they sized you up and figured you were too smart to do something as stupid as that back out on the street.

OK I'm skeptical, but with good reason. What you're relaying is essentially the sales pitch of a motorbike driver. These guys just never deliver, in my experience. If you'd gone and seen it, confirmed it was real, different story.

I know you're really experienced. Just, this one is dubious.

Gotta go... interruption... later.

OzzieSuds
05-03-09, 13:26
Wendella - I was reporting what I was told and not endorsing it because I never went there. For me Saigon has so many other opportunities for me going there would be a waste of my time.

The new bar on Thi Sach (Coconuts) has a different slant on business - they simply do not want to talk about LT engagements. Now when you have an old fella as old as mine (and affected by too much whisky) that is not an effective arrangement.

Wendella
05-03-09, 13:34
Wendella - I was reporting what I was told and not endorsing it because I never went there. For me Saigon has so many other opportunities for me going there would be a waste of my time.

The new bar on Thi Sach (Coconuts) has a different slant on business - they simply do not want to talk about LT engagements. Now when you have an old fella as old as mine (and affected by too much whisky) that is not an effective arrangement.

Yes I realize -- sorry, I needed to post that one before quickly because prying eyes came up behind me - -had to rush it, didnt' have a chance to tone it down.

It's possible it's true. Only one way to find out. Just, I'm very skeptical given the source of the info.

I find that other bars display more talent these days, and more flexible in such areas as you're interesetd in. Bin Bin has tons of girls lately. 91 always very good. I've always found Cali to be one of the poorer cousins of the rest.

Oops, gotta go again.

Later

Mik Hcmc
05-03-09, 14:07
A pimp in Dong Du was filling my ear with talk about a hotel in District 1 with wall to wall girls. I took a card but did not check it out. Hoang Anh Hotel at 33 Co Giang St in D1I went for a little ride this morning, Around 1040am I went past the hotel, Grey/black Granite looking exterior, nestled in amongst the shop houses and market. Looks very new compared to other shops/houses next to it.

Had a sign outside with prices for days, weeks, month in USD and also short times (1hr, 2hr) in VND.

There was no wall to wall girls from what I could see (riding past on the street several times) just the reception/front desk. Hotel is just like a local hotel.

Has anyone been there during more appropriate hrs?

Johndao
05-04-09, 03:44
It's a strange thing, and I haven't been able to figure it out, but there appear to be no regularly operating FS brothels in HCMC as there are in Hanoi. At least in 5 years here, I have never been to one although I am sure there must be some some out of the city center. Of course there are loads and loads of places to get blowjobs and feels onsite. And just as many places where takeaway is on the menu. But a place, a hotel where you walk in and are shown a bunch of girls, choose one and go to a room right there for a one stop price? Never seen it in HCMC. They have been operating in the West Lake area of Hanoi for years.

However, I have heard about 'mobile' brothels operating this way and have read about them being busted as well. By mobile, I mean a pimp or pimps brings a bunch of girls to a hotel and informs a limited number of clients of where and when. But the time is limited and then they move on. This can be very profitable, as they are eluding payments by staying on the move, unlike fixed venues that have to pay.

Even at the standard Hot Toc, massage/BJ places I frequent, the girls cannot go out with you from the place, although it is possible to make an early morning or late night date with them. They have to work all day, every day to maintain their positions. Only once in all the many girls I have seen in BBS/BJ shops here has a girl laid down on the table and asked me to fuck her. And she was gone the next week.

EXCEPTION: There is one dirty, small, very friendly Hot Toc I sometimes frequent on DBP where the girls will go out right then and there. Choose your girl, go the curtained area in the back and decide. Out to the short time hotel 50 meters down the road for less than 1 hr, one shot and 500k, or BJ right there. BJ is 70k for the house and 100k for her. I think if you go to the hotel you pay 70k to the house also and 50k for the hotel. I have never gone with one, but have seen others go. They change clothes and are out the door in 2 minutes. I have never been able to convince one to go for less than 500k, and have not been there in a while as there is no A/C and it's too hot now.

Back to brothels. I am with Wendella, never believe a xe om. This hotel will likely be one at a time. I think with them (xe om) you will always get a bad deal, the worst girls at the worst price and with the worst service. Too many trafficked girls, forced to work, poor performers as they should be considering why they are working. I want someone who wants to work, tries to please, and for a good price. Like Trang. See my pics in the Photo Gallery.

JD

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Wendella
05-04-09, 06:09
There was no wall to wall girls from what I could see (riding past on the street several times) just the reception/front desk. Hotel is just like a local hotel.


So you didn't go in and ask to see the wall-to-wall girls? ;)

I should say, I got this tease once from a guy on the street in district 1-- he came up and told me there was a hotel I should come to that had many girls for me to choose from. I followed him aroudn the corner, sat down in the lobby while they pulled out the cell phone and called a motorbike to come with one very mediocre one on the back. When I said no, it was back to the cell phone. 10 minutes later, mediocre girl #2. I had a feeling how it was gonna go at that point. One hour would = 6 mediocre girls plus one hour wasted. There were no girls in the hotel. There was a cell phone in the hotel.

I'd say a pretty good rule to follow is that unless you actually see the thing being advertised, presume it doesn't exist. If it sounds tempting, go look at it first-hand immediately. Chances are high it won't be as advertised. Better to get that false hope out of your head as quickly as possible. Eventually you'll learn to skip the hope part and just presume it's bullshit.

Asswrestler
05-05-09, 07:35
It's a strange thing, and I haven't been able to figure it out, but there appear to be no regularly operating FS brothels in HCMC as there are in Hanoi. At least in 5 years here, I have never been to one although I am sure there must be some some out of the city center. Of course there are loads and loads of places to get blowjobs and feels onsite. And just as many places where takeaway is on the menu. But a place, a hotel where you walk in and are shown a bunch of girls, choose one and go to a room right there for a one stop price? Never seen it in HCMC. They have been operating in the West Lake area of Hanoi for years.

However, I have heard about 'mobile' brothels operating this way and have read about them being busted as well. By mobile, I mean a pimp or pimps brings a bunch of girls to a hotel and informs a limited number of clients of where and when. But the time is limited and then they move on. This can be very profitable, as they are eluding payments by staying on the move, unlike fixed venues that have to pay.

Even at the standard Hot Toc, massage/BJ places I frequent, the girls cannot go out with you from the place, although it is possible to make an early morning or late night date with them. They have to work all day, every day to maintain their positions. Only once in all the many girls I have seen in BBS/BJ shops here has a girl laid down on the table and asked me to fuck her. And she was gone the next week.

EXCEPTION: There is one dirty, small, very friendly Hot Toc I sometimes frequent on DBP where the girls will go out right then and there. Choose your girl, go the curtained area in the back and decide. Out to the short time hotel 50 meters down the road for less than 1 hr, one shot and 500k, or BJ right there. BJ is 70k for the house and 100k for her. I think if you go to the hotel you pay 70k to the house also and 50k for the hotel. I have never gone with one, but have seen others go. They change clothes and are out the door in 2 minutes. I have never been able to convince one to go for less than 500k, and have not been there in a while as there is no A/C and it's too hot now.

Back to brothels. I am with Wendella, never believe a xe om. This hotel will likely be one at a time. I think with them (xe om) you will always get a bad deal, the worst girls at the worst price and with the worst service. Too many trafficked girls, forced to work, poor performers as they should be considering why they are working. I want someone who wants to work, tries to please, and for a good price. Like Trang. See my pics in the Photo Gallery.

JD

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Newbie
05-05-09, 09:24
It's a strange thing, and I haven't been able to figure it out, but there appear to be no regularly operating FS brothels in HCMC as there are in Hanoi.

Yes there are. They are all located about 30 minutes out of District 1 There are 7 within a 1km radius. Now there maybe more maybe less. Not sure

I have been to all before but just to lazy to regularly go up due to the distance. Have tried to hook-up with Wendella on numerous occasions to show him the place but our schedules never seem to be able to match.

Entrance is VND100K to the house, VND500K to the girl after the deed is done.

OzzieSuds
05-05-09, 09:30
Yes there are. They are all located about 30 minutes out of District 1 There are 7 within a 1km radius. Now there maybe more maybe less. Not sure

I have been to all before but just to lazy to regularly go up due to the distance. Have tried to hook-up with Wendella on numerous occasions to show him the place but our schedules never seem to be able to match.

Entrance is VND100K to the house, VND500K to the girl after the deed is done.

Be discrete with a location like this. PM only to trusted members who ask.

Johndao
05-05-09, 09:48
Be discrete with a location like this. PM only to trusted members who ask.I think that describing the location as '30 minutes out of District 1' is about as discrete as one could get.

With traffic the way it is, 30 minutes could be less than 1km!

Newbie
05-06-09, 09:47
Be discrete with a location like this. PM only to trusted members who ask.

Hi Susdoz, your advice is noted.

I have received some PMs regarding the address / location of the brothels. I am sorry to say that unless I have met the Forumer before or he is recommended by someone I have met, I will not PM the location. Call me paranoid but then again, I think I am just being cautious.

Ngu Ngon
05-06-09, 14:48
I will not PM the location. Call me paranoid but then again, I think I am just being cautious.Not paranoid at all. I once helped a stranger. Met him in a bar prior to helping him out and it caused me a great deal of embarrassment. Should have spotted it. He had the "Thai girls are much better because. " and "things are better in Thailand because. " kind of attitude before we'd even started.

I'm a bit out of touch with the scene so tend to lurk here. But 3 or 4 years ago there were a number of brothels a 2 or 3 miles out of town. Possibly Binh Thanh.

One I was taken to made only a half-hearted attempt to look legit. It said Hot Toc on the fascia. But only a couple basins and nothing plumbed in at front. At 9pm no staff to be seen and the lights were off outside. Through a door and through another door where a woman took payment in advance. VND100, 000. I was given a towel and a couple of numbers. My VN friend advised me it was probably pointless showering as it would probably leave me more dirty than when I started. What was beyond looked a bit like an NHS ward (UK hospital ward) from the 1970s. Dimly lit and a Hampton Court maze of curtains. I was given a couple of numbers. Each representing a curtained off mattress. My friend had to point me in the right direction. It was too dark for me to work out the numbers. I could choose which of the two, or reject. Each "cubicle" was little bigger than the mattress itself. The girl was already in place. No time limit was specified and I was told no need to hurry. My friend in a nearby cubicle making endless sarcastic remarks and the general sordid environment put me off. After 15mins or so, I announced I was finished. I was told that no tip was necessary or expected. Though I could if I wanted to. Up to me. I gave the girl VND50, 000 which probably just confused her.

I doubt this place is there now. Though at the time it was not the only one. Pretty nasty really. With effort I could probably work out where it was. A couple of times I spotted the location as I flew into Saigon. A nearby bridge was quite distinctive.

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Casey2005
05-07-09, 18:17
3. A pimp in Dong Du was filling my ear with talk about a hotel in District 1 with wall to wall girls. I took a card but did not check it out. Hoang Anh Hotel at 33 Co Giang St in D1I think I've been to that hotel a few times. The girls sit outside drinking coffee and soda on little plastic chairs near 93 CG in the evenings. Sit down, order a drink, and make eye contact. One of the girls may suggest "a massage". Negotiate for about 500k/ 1 hr and then you can walk down the street to the hotel. Sometime the girls are with some guy friends who will encourage you to choose a girl. The hotel costs 200k. A trusted xe om driver introduced me to this setup.

Johndao
05-12-09, 04:21
I think I've been to that hotel a few times. The girls sit outside drinking coffee and soda on little plastic chairs near 93 CG in the evenings. Sit down, order a drink, and make eye contact. One of the girls may suggest "a massage". Negotiate for about 500k/ 1 hr and then you can walk down the street to the hotel. Sometime the girls are with some guy friends who will encourage you to choose a girl. The hotel costs 200k. A trusted xe om driver introduced me to this setup.Yes, Casey is right, but I would suggest prices more in line with 100k for the hotel and 300k max for the girl. The 'guy friends' may be better described as 'pimps', or 'minders' if you really want to be generous in your description.

Joe Nailer
05-12-09, 13:16
... Negotiate for about 500k/ 1 hr ...The hotel costs 200k. A trusted xe om driver introduced me to this setup.
"500K for a girl, 200K for a 1hr hotel" - you ARE a good customer.
I would think, for that money, you would get a model like material.
Just for a f**k (without the massa, massa by this type of girls is useless anywhy), 200K, even 150K for a girl, 50K for hotel. That's quite enough!
I would suggest you "untrust" your trusted xe om driver.

Canyon
05-24-09, 01:53
[QUOTE=Johndao]It's a strange thing, and I haven't been able to figure it out, but there appear to be no regularly operating FS brothels in HCMC as there are in Hanoi. At least in 5 years here, I have never been to one although I am sure there must be some some out of the city center. Of course there are loads and loads of places to get blowjobs and feels onsite. And just as many places where takeaway is on the menu. But a place, a hotel where you walk in and are shown a bunch of girls, choose one and go to a room right there for a one stop price? Never seen it in HCMC. They have been operating in the West Lake area of Hanoi for years.

About seven or eight years ago, I used to visit brothels not too far off Hai Ba Trung. They were located in storefronts, but the door was always closed. A cyclo driver took me there the first time and knocked on the door and they let us in. The next time, I went there alone and knocked on the door and they let me in.

It was like a bar inside with table and chairs, a mamasan and girls. You went in, sat down, had a drink, then picked a girl. They didn't have rooms in back, so you had to go to a short-time hotel. I went there twice. Service was good one time and mediocre the next time. Girls were mostly very pretty, but many did not speak English, so I had to use my basic Vietnamese.

I tried to go back in recent years, but they were gone. I haven't seenany since.

Alwayshard45
05-24-09, 04:00
About seven or eight years ago, I used to visit brothels not too far off Hai Ba Trung. They were located in storefronts, but the door was always closed. A cyclo driver took me there the first time and knocked on the door and they let us in. The next time, I went there alone and knocked on the door and they let me in.

It was like a bar inside with table and chairs, a mamasan and girls. You went in, sat down, had a drink, then picked a girl. They didn't have rooms in back, so you had to go to a short-time hotel. I went there twice. Service was good one time and mediocre the next time. Girls were mostly very pretty, but many did not speak English, so I had to use my basic Vietnamese.

I tried to go back in recent years, but they were gone. I haven't seenany since.They are still around as I kind of fell into one a few weeks ago. I was pretty drunk from the night and the HBT bars were closing as I arrived. I was on my motorbike and another Vietnamese guy asked me if I still wanted to see girls and drink, so I said yes. He took me to a place on Ðông Du between HBT and Ð? Ng Kh? I street. I can't remember the address but, when I go around that area again I will try and see if any of it looks familiar.

As far as the service went, it was pretty expensive, well, similar to the HBT bars. The beers were also in that same price range, maybe slightly higher since they were serving around 1 am and they close around 4am or when there is no more customers. They did have a good selection to choose from. If one girls sits with you and you don't like they will change for you with no problem. Girls are friendly and on average I would say 7/10. I took home what I thought was an 8/10, drunk, and service was standard. Nothing to write home about.

Newbie
06-08-09, 09:57
Dear All,

For those of you who have patronised X-Club (30 Ngueyn Cu Trinh, D1) and have bottles of alcohol left over, do take note the place may not stay open for very much longer. It has recently made news in the local papers for all the wrong reasons;

1. Reported to sell fake liquor.
2. Reported to be a hang out place for junkies
3. Reported to allow many "undesireble ladies" of "questionable repute" to patronise the disco.

Better head back fast to finish your alcohol. Authorities might just shut the place again.

Club D & D (AKA Club 97) located on 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai has also closed. Many say because business is bad. When it will re-open, have no clue.

Johndao
06-08-09, 17:32
Dear All,

For those of you who have patronised X-Club (30 Ngueyn Cu Trinh, D1) and have bottles of alcohol left over, do take note the place may not stay open for very much longer. It has recently made news in the local papers for all the wrong reasons;

1. Reported to sell fake liquor.
2. Reported to be a hang out place for junkies
3. Reported to allow many "undesireble ladies" of "questionable repute" to patronise the disco.

Better head back fast to finish your alcohol. Authorities might just shut the place again.

Club D & D (AKA Club 97) located on 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai has also closed. Many say because business is bad. When it will re-open, have no clue.Yes, better go back to finish your 'fake' bottle of XO. But then again, those who would drink 'XO' with ice and coke really do deserve to be sold 'fake' at full price, don't they?

Playsafe
06-08-09, 23:49
Dear All,

For those of you who have patronised X-Club (30 Ngueyn Cu Trinh, D1) and have bottles of alcohol left over, do take note the place may not stay open for very much longer. It has recently made news in the local papers for all the wrong reasons;

1. Reported to sell fake liquor.
2. Reported to be a hang out place for junkies
3. Reported to allow many "undesireble ladies" of "questionable repute" to patronise the disco.

Better head back fast to finish your alcohol. Authorities might just shut the place again.

Club D & D (AKA Club 97) located on 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai has also closed. Many say because business is bad. When it will re-open, have no clue.
Thanks for the info., but most of the clubs in VN sell fake liquor, or #2 & 3 like you mentioned. If the cops get a cut of the profits, they will come to find reasons to close any businesses down.

Wendella
06-09-09, 05:12
Thanks for the info., but most of the clubs in VN sell fake liquor, or #2 & 3 like you mentioned. If the cops get a cut of the profits, they will come to find reasons to close any businesses down.

I think its the fact that its being reported in the paper that makes it a red flag, not just the fact it's selling fake liquor. If everything was settled the way you describe, it wouldn't end up in the paper.

Playsafe
06-09-09, 08:36
I think its the fact that its being reported in the paper that makes it a red flag, not just the fact it's selling fake liquor. If everything was settled the way you describe, it wouldn't end up in the paper.
My fault. I forgot to add the word "'don't' get a cut", but I didn't disagree with newbie's facts.

Because it was not settled the way I described, that's why it ended up in the paper.

I don't know of any clubs that don't have prostitutes. I don't even know of any clubs that discouraged prostitutes from coming in.

When any night clubs become too popular, even with the local police protection, the top guys from Hanoi will come down & shut them down.

Anyone remember what's happened to New Century in Hanoi? It's gone now.

Newbie
06-09-09, 19:56
Yes, better go back to finish your 'fake' bottle of XO. But then again, those who would drink 'XO' with ice and coke really do deserve to be sold 'fake' at full price, don't they?

You can't say that just because someone drinks Brandy with Coke deserves to be served fake alcohol.

I guess it boils down to personal preference and also "Monkey See Monkey Do" as well as posers and wannabes...

Raverboy
06-10-09, 03:12
You can't say that just because someone drinks Brandy with Coke deserves to be served fake alcohol.

I guess it boils down to personal preference and also "Monkey See Monkey Do" as well as posers and wannabes...

Sorry, but brandy with coke is right up there with... cognac with green tea, wagyu steak with ketchup, sushi with chilli sauce. It's just wrong.

Wendella
06-10-09, 05:15
My fault. I forgot to add the word "'don't' get a cut", but I didn't disagree with newbie's facts.

Because it was not settled the way I described, that's why it ended up in the paper.



Ah, oops. Sorry. Misunderstood.

Mik Hcmc
06-10-09, 05:16
I thought Brandy and Coke was a Nigerian thing.

OzzieSuds
06-10-09, 08:18
They are still around as I kind of fell into one a few weeks ago. I was pretty drunk from the night and the HBT bars were closing as I arrived. I was on my motorbike and another Vietnamese guy asked me if I still wanted to see girls and drink, so I said yes. He took me to a place on Ðông Du between HBT and Ð? Ng Kh? I street. I can't remember the address but, when I go around that area again I will try and see if any of it looks familiar.

As far as the service went, it was pretty expensive, well, similar to the HBT bars. The beers were also in that same price range, maybe slightly higher since they were serving around 1 am and they close around 4am or when there is no more customers. They did have a good selection to choose from. If one girls sits with you and you don't like they will change for you with no problem. Girls are friendly and on average I would say 7/10. I took home what I thought was an 8/10, drunk, and service was standard. Nothing to write home about.

That bar is the reincarnation of the Cali Bar that used to be around the corner on Mac Thi Buoi.

Macheath
06-10-09, 17:25
Dear All,

For those of you who have patronised X-Club (30 Ngueyn Cu Trinh, D1) and have bottles of alcohol left over, do take note the place may not stay open for very much longer. It has recently made news in the local papers for all the wrong reasons;

1. Reported to sell fake liquor.
2. Reported to be a hang out place for junkies
3. Reported to allow many "undesireble ladies" of "questionable repute" to patronise the disco.

Better head back fast to finish your alcohol. Authorities might just shut the place again.

Club D & D (AKA Club 97) located on 97 Nguyen Thi Minh Khai has also closed. Many say because business is bad. When it will re-open, have no clue.1. Mixed drinks are so weak here that'd be difficult to identify what the alcohol content is. Wonder how you'd go bringing in a hip flask;

2. Don't agree that obvious junkies hang out in these places, although would certainly help to appreciate the "music" with some chemical assistance. I've seen some very drunk Vietnamese men being helped out by security and their friends, and looked like they were being treated quite well. In Australia would probably be dumped on the footpath and maybe given one to go on with;

3. Your experience may differ but don't agree that there are many pros in these clubs. Of course plenty in Apocalypse and in Gossip around the bar, but most of the other places I've been in the girls look pretty well heeled and are with other Vietnamese. Looks like having a night out with friends, although of course looking very sexy. Have managed to avoid Lush so far but heard that there'd been a bit of trouble for expats with locals. Would be quite a different experience because usually am either ignored or treated well. Note that PR girls in Liquid, America etc aren't pros of course. But could turn into girl friends if you're prepared to put in the hard yards. If you could be bothered.

Wendella
06-12-09, 07:31
In case of any possible confusion -- the newspaper reported these things, but that's not the same as saying they're true. I dont' think the OP of this one was necessarily assuming the details reported in the news story were facts. I think it's more that a story like that in the newspaper can often be a prelude to a place being shut down.


1. Mixed drinks are so weak here that'd be difficult to identify what the alcohol content is. Wonder how you'd go bringing in a hip flask;

2. Don't agree that obvious junkies hang out in these places, although would certainly help to appreciate the "music" with some chemical assistance. I've seen some very drunk Vietnamese men being helped out by security and their friends, and looked like they were being treated quite well. In Australia would probably be dumped on the footpath and maybe given one to go on with;

3. Your experience may differ but don't agree that there are many pros in these clubs. Of course plenty in Apocalypse and in Gossip around the bar, but most of the other places I've been in the girls look pretty well heeled and are with other Vietnamese. Looks like having a night out with friends, although of course looking very sexy. Have managed to avoid Lush so far but heard that there'd been a bit of trouble for expats with locals. Would be quite a different experience because usually am either ignored or treated well. Note that PR girls in Liquid, America etc aren't pros of course. But could turn into girl friends if you're prepared to put in the hard yards. If you could be bothered.

Richo Stevens
07-06-09, 18:37
I am taking a friend to HCMC which never have been in Asia before, I wish I could take him to Bangkok or PP which I know fairly well, but this is it.

Where could we find a A GO GO like bar, I RTTF but couldn't really find something, we're just looking for a seedy place to drink some beers and watch some grls, andy advice would be great! :)

Maybe one in a touristy area and one more hidden?

Thanks!

OzzieSuds
07-07-09, 00:57
I am taking a friend to HCMC which never have been in Asia before, I wish I could take him to Bangkok or PP which I know fairly well, but this is it.

Where could we find a A GO GO like bar, I RTTF but couldn't really find something, we're just looking for a seedy place to drink some beers and watch some grls, andy advice would be great! :)

Maybe one in a touristy area and one more hidden?

Thanks!

Take him to Apocalypse and then to bars like Coco down the street.

Wendella
07-07-09, 05:55
I am taking a friend to HCMC which never have been in Asia before, I wish I could take him to Bangkok or PP which I know fairly well, but this is it.

Where could we find a A GO GO like bar, I RTTF but couldn't really find something, we're just looking for a seedy place to drink some beers and watch some grls, andy advice would be great! :)

Maybe one in a touristy area and one more hidden?

Thanks!

Sudsoz knows this but didn't mention it: there aren't any go-go bars in Vietnam. There's hostess bars. Apocalypse is a disco with some freelance girls working there in amongst the normal club-goers. Coco is a new hostess bar. For lots more hostess bars (mostly better in terms of talent, imo), walk over to Hai Ba Trung street and you'll find many.

OzzieSuds
07-07-09, 10:52
Maybe I was a bit brief this morning so thanks to Wendella. Reading Richo's post leaves me wondering is his friend wants to partake or just look.

For a newcomer the HBT bars are maybe a bit heavy on it which is why I suggested Coco or Smiley's around the corner. There you can choose a cutie and play some pool and choose whether you want you cue polished or not.

If he really just wants to look there is nothing like the go-gos of Soi Cowboy but there is the up market offerings at Club Royale or Catwalk. The beauties cruise around with Mama and will sit for a fee.

But if he decides that he wants take-out the best bet is still the Mama at Ny Saigon.

And smile and enjoy the search and smile and enjoy the negotiation at every step along the way!

Ozzy Bkk
07-14-09, 19:30
Just arrived HCM today.

I gone to Gossip tonight around 10pm, but action really start around 11 to midnight.

Entrance fee 120.000 with a beer, next beer 100.000, quite expensive place.

Music too strong for me, have to stay near the bar for save my ears!

I saw 2 sexy Bimbos of 1, 70M, drinking gold label and just show how much they are sexy and stupid, this is the asian way, not only in Vietnam.

By the way, I talked to some freelance, requesting 150 USD for a night LOL. Bargain to 100 USD and finally 1M dong for one hour.

I tried to bargain around 800.000 then she felt upset and left.

I don't regret anything, I guess the service was bad anyways.

Ozzy Bkk
07-15-09, 20:21
Tonight, let's go to Volcano. Then I arrived to "Pink Girl" at midnight, it's seems it was rename.

Nice Club, good DJ and good light Jokey. Not many people tonight, I think I saw 2 Freelances only.

No entrance fee, Beer at 100.000 VND

30mn later, I decided to go to Apocalypse, it was closed at midnight !

Got back to Gossip, nothing interesting until 2AM it's closed.

Johndao
07-16-09, 10:37
What's up with Moon Bar at 70 Pasteur and the nearby #5 bar?

Wendella
07-16-09, 15:29
What's up with Moon Bar at 70 Pasteur and the nearby #5 bar?

Normal bars, but with friendly waitresses/barmaids. Oasis is another like this over across from Ben Thanh market. As far as I know, they're not 'working' but maybe others here have different experience. #5 was down on Ly Tu Truong a long time, at the start of it, across from Lush (not exactly across but close).

Poppasan
07-18-09, 00:46
Just arrived HCM today.

I gone to Gossip tonight around 10pm, but action really start around 11 to midnight.

Entrance fee 120.000 with a beer, next beer 100.000, quite expensive place.

Music too strong for me, have to stay near the bar for save my ears!

I saw 2 sexy Bimbos of 1, 70M, drinking gold label and just show how much they are sexy and stupid, this is the asian way, not only in Vietnam.

By the way, I talked to some freelance, requesting 150 USD for a night LOL. Bargain to 100 USD and finally 1M dong for one hour.

I tried to bargain around 800.000 then she felt upset and left.

I don't regret anything, I guess the service was bad anyways.



Good Job standing your ground. That is crazy 150 for all night and 100 for ST. Don't they know we are in a recession. Next time lie at the front and say you have bottle service. Save you entrance fee. Will be there in 2 weeks. Vietnam night life is not like what it used to be.

Johndao
07-20-09, 05:53
Thanks for the info on #5 and Moon Bar.
What about Ladies Night at Lush and Cage? I think on Tues and Wed one or the other has free drinks for ladies. What's the action like? Anyone?

Johndao
07-28-09, 05:15
Has anyone been to the new Bar 'Blueberry' at 60 Calmette?

Johndao
07-28-09, 05:20
This place has been around forever. I understand it's not a Wh*re Bar like the ones on HBT and LTT, but has anyone ever gone off with any of the Polo girls? If so, which one(s) and how much?

Also, what's the difference between the girls at the bar and the girls around the sides of the room? How much do people tip there? Anyone? Thanks,
JD

Lakeoffire1
07-29-09, 14:19
Thanks for the info on #5 and Moon Bar.

What about Ladies Night at Lush and Cage? I think on Tues and Wed one or the other has free drinks for ladies. What's the action like? Anyone? Hey John! Ladies night is on Tuesday at Lush, there is plenty of girls there, not all working but for sure all available! Hehe.

I felt guilty last Friday, I haven't follow a girl who wanted just fun! About workers, I guess they are pretty expensive, cause most of them are model like. So probably not what are you looking for.

Haven't try there so you might be more lucky with some others guys.

Johndao
07-30-09, 04:51
I drove by what looks to me like a new nightclub at the end of Dong Khoi near the river, opposite the Majestic Hotel. It's called Club Catinat after the former name of this street during the French Colonial period.

I saw lots and lots of what look to be very pretty girls sitting beside large glass windows all around the club and two at an outside table. I could not say they for sure were not guests or customers, but I guess they aren't. I ddi not see anyone that looked like a customer. I also saw a band playing inside. about 9:30PM on Wednesday.

Anybody have any info?

Thanks, JD

OzzieSuds
07-30-09, 09:54
I drove by what looks to me like a new nightclub at the end of Dong Khoi near the river, opposite the Majestic Hotel. It's called Club Catinat after the former name of this street during the French Colonial period.

I saw lots and lots of what look to be very pretty girls sitting beside large glass windows all around the club and two at an outside table. I could not say they for sure were not guests or customers, but I guess they aren't. I ddi not see anyone that looked like a customer. I also saw a band playing inside. about 9:30PM on Wednesday.

Anybody have any info?

Thanks, JD

I have been in there in the daytime and it was just a coffee shop with bad coffee.

Johndao
08-07-09, 07:18
Comparing four bars where the staff is all female and the customers nearly all male. These are not wh*re bars like the bars on Hai Ba Trung and Le Thanh Ton, just normal places to have a drink and where the pretty girls at the bar are the bartenders and have the job of talking to you and selling drinks, not getting them for themselves or offering to go home with you for a fee.

The bars are:
Oasis on Pham Ngu Lao across from the bus station
Number 5 on lower Pasteur
Moon Bar on lower Pasteur very near Number 5
Polo Bar on Ham Nghi

All these bars are within a very short distance of one another.
Drink prices are similar with draft beer at Polo being the highest at 41,000 Dong including 10% added
Oasis has Fosters for 25,000 and Tiger for 30,000
Number 5 has draft beer at 35,000 and Moon Bar at 30,000

Number 5 and Polo are much larger than the other two and attract bigger crowds. They also have the prettiest bartenders. The girls at Moon Bar were really not attractive at all, with one exception that I saw. Same at Oasis. Polo is surely tops in pretty bartenders.

Number 5 has lots of lovely and friendly girls and the music is at a volume where you can talk. There are some couches to sit on, sports on TV (will not interest Americans--rugby and cricket was all I saw) and it's an ok place for females too. Also, Number 5 is the only place with a decent food menu. You can have dinner there.

Polo also has lots of pretty girls to talk too, but the music is a bit loud and the place is dark. Polo also does not have a pool table unlike the other three, and to me, it generally has the sleaziest feel. Also, you have to pay 5000d to park your bike.

The peanuts at all places gave me a stomach ache as they are probably used again and again and have had many dirty fingers on them.

If anybody can add anything to this, please do. I hope this is helpful to newbies to HCMC as well as those who just want to go out for a drink and look at and/or talk to pretty girls without all the hassle.

PM me for more info if you need.

JD

OzzieSuds
08-08-09, 02:09
Comparing four bars where the staff is all female and the customers nearly all male. These are not wh*re bars like the bars on Hai Ba Trung and Le Thanh Ton, just normal places to have a drink and where the pretty girls at the bar are the bartenders and have the job of talking to you and selling drinks, not getting them for themselves or offering to go home with you for a fee.

The bars are:
Oasis on Pham Ngu Lao across from the bus station
Number 5 on lower Pasteur
Moon Bar on lower Pasteur very near Number 5
Polo Bar on Ham Nghi

All these bars are within a very short distance of one another.
Drink prices are similar with draft beer at Polo being the highest at 41,000 Dong including 10% added
Oasis has Fosters for 25,000 and Tiger for 30,000
Number 5 has draft beer at 35,000 and Moon Bar at 30,000

Number 5 and Polo are much larger than the other two and attract bigger crowds. They also have the prettiest bartenders. The girls at Moon Bar were really not attractive at all, with one exception that I saw. Same at Oasis. Polo is surely tops in pretty bartenders.

Number 5 has lots of lovely and friendly girls and the music is at a volume where you can talk. There are some couches to sit on, sports on TV (will not interest Americans--rugby and cricket was all I saw) and it's an ok place for females too. Also, Number 5 is the only place with a decent food menu. You can have dinner there.

Polo also has lots of pretty girls to talk too, but the music is a bit loud and the place is dark. Polo also does not have a pool table unlike the other three, and to me, it generally has the sleaziest feel. Also, you have to pay 5000d to park your bike.

The peanuts at all places gave me a stomach ache as they are probably used again and again and have had many dirty fingers on them.

If anybody can add anything to this, please do. I hope this is helpful to newbies to HCMC as well as those who just want to go out for a drink and look at and/or talk to pretty girls without all the hassle.

PM me for more info if you need.

JD

A quieter bar with nice girls like this is the Hot Chilli Bar on Dong Do (Du?) with nice gals in Aoi Dai. Owned by a sweety by name of Dung. About to relocate over behind SunWah Tower.

And whilst these gals are not 'available' good things can always happen if you are nice to people.

Macheath
08-08-09, 03:49
I drove by what looks to me like a new nightclub at the end of Dong Khoi near the river, opposite the Majestic Hotel. It's called Club Catinat.JD,

Seems like you're moving up in the world, fishing in the Q1 pond. Did you win the lottery?

If such is the case you should try the dance club Maxims across the road. Dance as in "proper dancing" with live viet band and singers. Gonna cost you about 80k to get in and drinks quite expensive but big selection of girls dressed to the 9's. Girls are kind of hostesses so there's a price to sit or dance with them, maybe 200k for couple of hours plus a negotiable tip. I think this may be about the last vestige of a taxi dance club. Haven't been for about 6 months, and used to drop in maybe every couple of months just for something a bit different. If you get there at 9 you'll be the first and everything is finished by 12, so if lucky you might get some takeaway or go out for a bite after.

Some very pretty girls and some quite tall, although all wearing high heels. Lots of cleavage and leg on display, although might just be long dress slit high, lots of makeup. Quite dark so things might look different in the harsh light of day. My opinion is that mostly "good girls" with expensive tastes open to a boyfriend or maybe a few hours company for the right price. You'll be laughed at or shunned if you offer your street girl prices.

Polo Bar. Maybe sleazy atmosphere because at the top of the stairs one door to bar and other to massage. Has best looking girls and best English speakers, and all looking for boyfriends, but too smokey and too much of a drinkers' bar for me.

Number 5. Was on Mac Dinh Chi most recently and other places before and more of a sports bar; M52 and Moon bar for regulars and drinkers. Lots of new bars in this area behind Sun Wah/Pasteur area, Voodoo bar not bad for a drink. That Chilli Bar has to be about the smallest bar in town. Changes from a travel agency about 6pm and no reason to go there unless you've got a crush. My general comment is that these are places to go for a drink and are full of regulars. Lots of people are looking for somewhere to drink since Latin closed. You might find an attractive girl, in which case get her number and arrange a date. But she won't be a pro and she'll be looking for a boyfriend.

Sometimes interesting to me the behaviour/ mentality of some customers. Since when is it acceptable to walk into a place, sit down next to a stranger and light up a cigar, or walk along a bar top in your filthy shoes. Just 2 examples of yob Brit behaviour. Thank whoever that my ancestors were deported or left that green unpleasant land.

It's legal to act like an arsehole here but not compulsory.

Warmjan
08-18-09, 13:14
Hi, first-timer coming to HCMC, would love to get some recommendations from some of the long-time guys there for nice bars where you can have a good beer or whiskey, chat up some cute chicks -- pros or amateurs welcome -- and perhaps take one home if you get lucky.

I've read some of the comments on here about Polo, Oasis, No. 5, etc. and may check those out. Any other recommendations would be most appreciated. Feel free to PM as well if there's anything you'd prefer to share that way. And if you feel like hitting any of these bars together or otherwise mongering, that sounds great too.

Best,
WJ

Johndao
08-19-09, 04:32
Lots of cleavage and leg on display, although might just be long dress slit high, lots of makeup. My opinion is that mostly "good girls" with expensive tastes open to a boyfriend or maybe a few hours company for the right price. You'll be laughed at or shunned if you offer your street girl prices.

Huh?? 'Good girls' who go to dance clubs, display lots of cleavage and leg, lots of makeup, hunt 'boyfriends' or are willing to fuck for money? I must be getting old if that's what a 'good girl' has become.

In fact, they are bar/club wh*res but they speak English, dress up, and ARE pretty no doubt. But wh*res they are.

I wouldn't offer them street girl prices. But the ones who are laughed at are the ones foolish enough to pay these girls the 2 million Dong they ask for and believe they are 'good girls.'

Macheath
08-19-09, 13:57
Huh?? 'Good girls' who go to dance clubs, display lots of cleavage and leg, lots of makeup, hunt 'boyfriends' or are willing to fuck for money? I must be getting old if that's what a 'good girl' has become.

In fact, they are bar/club wh*res but they speak English, dress up, and ARE pretty no doubt. But wh*res they are.

I wouldn't offer them street girl prices. But the ones who are laughed at are the ones foolish enough to pay these girls the 2 million Dong they ask for and believe they are 'good girls.'I wasn't meaning to suggest that these girls are better than anyone else, more a comment on how I think that they probably think of themselves. I don't think of them as "good" or "bad", but no doubt easier for them to rationalise their behaviour than if obviously riding around on motor bikes offering sex for money. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage of them only go as far as being paid dance partners and nothing more. I couldn't call them wh*res even if I used that description, because I haven't had sex with any of them. Either for money or otherwise.

I think that by your definition most women are wh*res. In my experience most women trade sex for money or security or status etc. Whether or not that makes them wh*res is a matter of opinion. I prefer not to put labels on them, particularly as most of them are just maximising their earning potential in a generally very low wage economy.

Incidentally just noticed that my post was auto edited so followed your example in using wh*res. I can't say that I understand this.

Wendella
08-20-09, 13:10
So did anyone go check out this Catinat yet? Curious to hear what that one is about. Having a glass front and being on Dong Khoi probably means it's pretty straightlaced, maybe just a normal cafe.

I noticed Oasis has mostly bartenders (girls) from the old No. 5 that was located on Ly Tu Truong across the street from Lush. There were some cuties there back then. I did not see them at the relocated No. 5 on Mac Dinh Chi later, replaced by a new set that weren't as cute or nearly as friendly, IMO. Went there with a friend who'd just arrived one night, we were totally ignored by staff. We were both dressed smart, clean cut -- very different vibe from the old place. There you would never be left alone. Haven't been to the Pasteur incarnation. Nor Oasis -- have driven past and spotted a few familiar faces.

Speaking of the old No. 5, it looks like Carmen is reopening in the same old location. Surprise, surprise.

Johndao
08-21-09, 02:13
Hey WJ howyadoin? If you like big tits check out Smiley's. They are pricier but oh so nice!

From an earlier D Cups: "Thanks for the info on Coco's, Sudsoz. I will have a look next time in HCM.

Mongers, if you like BIG ONES (.) (.) there were two young lovelies in Smileys when I was there last March with D sized cups. Cute, too, and not fat. Super sexy. They wanted 1,000,000 a piece (yeah right) but I negotiated to 600K including photos. I swear one of them must have the biggest tits in the whole country!"


Hey D Cups, you wrote you negotiated for 2 at only 600k at Smiley's and that included photos! That's cheap at a bar in HCMC, not pricey. Still waiting for those photos. . .
JD

AdHome01
08-27-09, 18:36
Over the past few months I’ve got to know a few of the girls working the HBT bars very well. This is how all the girls said the pricing works. BJ upstairs the girl pays the bar $10, girl leaves with a customer the girl pays the bar $20. Any lady drinks you buy them come off the $10/$20 bar fees. All other monies go directly to the girl. There is not "set" pricing inplace by the bar, the girls can charge whatever they like.

Hopefully this will help with your negotiations, if not; you at least know how much actually goes to the bar and girl.

Crazyazn
08-31-09, 11:29
Can someone please tell me where Smiley's is located?

Thanks!

Dawg415
09-03-09, 06:29
So I went to Bar 29 on Dong Khoi? the other day. I like this place because they don't have an excessive bar fine but they do want you to buy the lady at least 3 drinks = 150K Dong. I know the bar girls are expensive but sometimes I don't have the patience to go with someone cheaper and have a bad experience or to go out further to find a better deal.

So I had this young chick ~20yo and before I decided to take her out I felt her up and man was her body taught. Went to mini H and her box was so tight it was lovely and doing doggie was my fav as her behind was just the right handful but not mushy, just nice and tight. But being so young and the fact she said she just started, her experience was a bit limiting. Still it was nice.

I went back the same week before a dinner and just wanted a BJ. Mamasan got all mad because I told her I paid 500K before to go upstairs to get the job done. She wanted 1Mil, plus 200K for drinks. WTF, it was very expensive to do this upstairs. Before doing the deed, I was just hanging about and every 5 minutes or so girl went back down to get another drink. Mamasan thought I already tried to do the deed with the chick a couple of times already, WTF. Just hassling for more money. She is usually pretty nice as I am a regular customer, but I guess it's money hounding time in this economy.

Anybody else have a good experience at this place?

Dawg415
09-03-09, 11:10
Can someone please tell me where Smiley's is located?

Thanks!Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung, cross street Le Thanh Ton and parallel to Thi Sach. THere is a big smiley sign outside and a little ways to the right there is a building with a small pizza place.

Mik Hcmc
09-04-09, 13:03
Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung, cross street Le Thanh Ton and parallel to Thi Sach. THere is a big smiley sign outside and a little ways to the right there is a building with a small pizza place.The pizza kiosk is Scoozi Pizza. Great Pizza's though the toppings are a bit sparce. Wood fired pizza oven.

Milkweed
09-04-09, 17:25
So I went to Bar 29 on Dong Khoi? the other day. I like this place because they don't have an excessive bar fine but they do want you to buy the lady at least 3 drinks = 150K Dong. I know the bar girls are expensive but sometimes I don't have the patience to go with someone cheaper and have a bad experience or to go out further to find a better deal.How much was the tight 20 year old?

Crazyazn
09-05-09, 06:53
Smiley's is on Thai Van Lung, cross street Le Thanh Ton and parallel to Thi Sach. THere is a big smiley sign outside and a little ways to the right there is a building with a small pizza place.Thank You Very Much!!

Johndao
09-06-09, 07:51
So I went to Bar 29 on Dong Khoi? the other day. I like this place because they don't have an excessive bar fine but they do want you to buy the lady at least 3 drinks = 150K Dong. I know the bar girls are expensive but sometimes I don't have the patience to go with someone cheaper and have a bad experience or to go out further to find a better deal.

I went back the same week before a dinner and just wanted a BJ. Mamasan got all mad because I told her I paid 500K before to go upstairs to get the job done. She wanted 1Mil, plus 200K for drinks. WTF, it was very expensive to do this upstairs. Before doing the deed, I was just hanging about and every 5 minutes or so girl went back down to get another drink. Mamasan thought I already tried to do the deed with the chick a couple of times already, WTF. Just hassling for more money. She is usually pretty nice as I am a regular customer, but I guess it's money hounding time in this economy.

Anybody else have a good experience at this place?Sorry Dawg but are you saying that you paid 1m for a BJ at 29 Plus 200k for drinks? After you paid 500k last time? Is that right?
JD

Rokraida
09-14-09, 11:25
Checked out Lush on Friday and Saturday nite. Friday nite was a lot better and more people. Friday plays rnb/hip hop and Saturday plays that crappy house/techno you hear all over saigon.

Most the girls there seemed to be non pros bar a handfull which were obvious as they were just standing around in a bunch scanning the room for customers. These were super hot tho 7-9s.

Went there for non p4p action and met a nice girl who says she isn't a worker. She also tells me that this place doesn't have many 'chickens' and is more popular with gay guys. I did notice them around too. Gay guys are cool to hang with if you arent homophobic. They tend to always have hot girls hanging with them. Seemed like my girl is looking for boyfriend material.

Go here if your looking for long term and no p4p. The girls arent gonna be 10s but you mite score freebies.

Dawg415
09-15-09, 16:53
Sorry Dawg but are you saying that you paid 1m for a BJ at 29 Plus 200k for drinks? After you paid 500k last time? Is that right?

JDJD, No i Paid 500 for drinks and the BJ.

Last time I paid 200K for the drinks and then 1m for the girl.

Sorry for the confusion.

Greywolf69
09-16-09, 06:24
Heading to HCMC in December. Does anybody know of any good clubs I can hit up? Heard of Gossip, Lush and Palace. Anyone have any feedback on these?

Any others?

Raverboy
09-16-09, 08:57
Heading to HCMC in December. Does anybody know of any good clubs I can hit up? Heard of Gossip, Lush and Palace. Anyone have any feedback on these?

Any others?

Lush is full of Vietnamese rich kids spending their parents' money on the weekends. Palace has been closed since more than a year ago. Go to Gossip, the 'usual suspects' hangout toward the rear by the bar.

Greywolf69
09-17-09, 01:51
Lush is full of Vietnamese rich kids spending their parents' money on the weekends. Palace has been closed since more than a year ago. Go to Gossip, the 'usual suspects' hangout toward the rear by the bar.And what is the going rate for st or lt for these "usual suspects"?

Raverboy
09-21-09, 03:32
And what is the going rate for st or lt for these "usual suspects"?

I hear the going rate is a C-note for LT, but I've only ever indulged here once as I'm fairly regular there. Admittedly, I sent her away with less than the above-mentioned 'going rate'. But that's ok, I still see her around the 'usual places' all the time. For a quick fix, I prefer cruising along known streets and window shopping. More info on that is available in the General Reports section.

MutantChicken
10-11-09, 06:07
The place is quite nice and the girls atractive and friendly however, whilst it wasnt a bad experience, id also say that it wasnt great as it wasnt value for money. Id suggest you go there if you don't have much game, can't speak the local language and plan to hook up with the girl later in the night for 100 us. But if thats not your intention then id say skip on the KTV experience.

I'm not sure how the other guys feel, but basically what I got from that night from the girls aspect was to cuddle and hug a girl for 3 hrs and joke and flirt around. I wasnt planning on any sexual activity anyway so I didn't even ask for a number. The girls are attractive, but not more so than girls I chat up in bars or coffee shops. The night cost us 2.5 mill for 5 people, the costs broke down to something like 12+ beers at 42keach, room charges and a girl charge. Which after talking to my local friend was a scam. We/I should have debated that extra charge but I was ignorant towards that so that was an extra 1.2 mill we could have avoided so you guys will have to sue me for it hahahah.

The girls we then tipped 300k, which again is slightly higher than normal. But if your try to sex her up I suppose you should agree, but maybe we need to be more assertive and say thats enough.

Further the mommy and the waiter was tipped 300k and 100k repsectively. Again from a locals point of view that is excessive. It would be more closer to 100k and 50k respectively. Keep in mind that if 300k was the normal price the mommy would be getting 1.5 mill on average a nite that 45 mill a month or 10x the average wage. Which is kinda ridiculas given she didn't even do any work or sat with us.

Again like said earlier on, if all I planned to do was chat and flirt with an attractve girl drink some beers. I can do that at a coffee shop and it would cost me 150k max. In a bar 300k max. In a KTV if you wanna hook up later and do some x rated groping then maybe it could justify the additional costs, or if you had little time and game. I couldn't be disprectful to the girl and grope her in public, maybe if I was by myself. I'll try a lower scale bia om and report the differences, I'll prob go with a local or go by myself

Thanks for reading and thats my 2 cents.

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Casey2005
10-13-09, 20:09
I've been to bia om places several times with the locals. The expected tip was only 100k for each girl and the same for the mamasan. Plenty of groping went on even while others such as the Mamasan and waiter were in the room. It seemed to be expected. Beers cost 20k each. It's not uncommon for the mamasan to keep coming in the room to help herself to beer. As a foreigner, I wouldn't want to go alone to such places for fear of the bill being greatly inflated.

MutantChicken
10-14-09, 12:48
I've been to bia om places several times with the locals. The expected tip was only 100k for each girl and the same for the mamasan. Plenty of groping went on even while others such as the Mamasan and waiter were in the room. It seemed to be expected. Beers cost 20k each. It's not uncommon for the mamasan to keep coming in the room to help herself to beer. As a foreigner, I wouldn't want to go alone to such places for fear of the bill being greatly inflated.Casey,

Can you direct me to a few decent places?

The street names should be sufficient.

Something more than q5?

Johndao
10-14-09, 17:33
The place is quite nice and the girls attractive and friendly however, whilst it wasn't a bad experience, I'd also say that it wasn't great as it wasn't value for money.
Yes Chicken, I agree. 2.5 million Dong for 5 guys with 12 beers total (208,000 Dong per beer, the only thing you received with any value), no sex, no groping, no contacts, isn't very good value for money, I think we would all agree, except maybe the most hardcore Karaoke Singing lover.
JD

Member #4285
11-02-09, 05:59
Hello!

Arrived to Saigon yeasterday and after reading in this thread about Smiley's I went with a motorbiketaxi from Q1 and my backpacker hotel. The owner an old lady told my no girl up to room. I sad, what? I cant bring my 2 long year girl friend up to the room? I change hotel tomorrow I sad. Then she say, if she is Vietnamese she must have passport. No GF hotel huh? Ti Ti is the name, 14$ night with free real good Wifi.

Anyway, I head over to Smiley's but first took a pizza close to the bar. On Sundays the have "one free" for every pizza you buy. So I eat one and took one with me to the Smiley's. The girls was very happy for that. I went to this place because I read about the big boobs that should be here, did not find any real big, but pretty girls. 2-3 was minimum 8 in my book.

The girl that was standing with me had a superbody, thin, but with a nice round but. Not "bonebut" many thin girls can have. I gave her 2 LD for 50k each when she was with me. She say, If I want BJ its upstairs and FS is on hotel. I say I cant take you to hotel but the mamasan or who she was behind the bar sad that I just have to give the doorman/lady 100.000 Dong as a bride. I dont now, maybe its better to change hotel than stand there with a girl and boner and then get noathing because of a angry hotelowner. But im going to Singapore in two days anyway so, I dont know..

So, the price was like:

Takeout to hotel: 350k to bar > 1M to lady for two hours two pops.
BBJCIM upstairs: 250k to bar > 350k to lady.

Okey BJ but not deep and sloppy as I like. But she sloppy and slurping more when I asked here. But no deep, I was to big for here little mouth she say, I dont know, becuse I see myself like a average.

Anyway, newbie overprice or standard at Smiley's? I got another girls number when I went to the bathroom. Maybe give her a call. And does the other bars have same sexy, slim hot girls too? Ooooh, why only two days in Saigon!

No brothels or at least bars that have FS? Is it the MP I then have to visit?

Johndao
11-02-09, 07:02
I stopped in at 31 HBT the other night. A sorry place that is. Terrible dingy atmosphere, smoky (from the girls), Vietnamese comedy on TV, 10 or so mostly sullen, poorly painted girls busy with their cigs and text messages. Seven of the ten belong on the ugly girl corner of NCT where they would be lucky to get taken for 150k. The three others, ok but nothing special. Started spouting silly numbers like $40 and $60 and $100 (BJ, 1 Hr, Over Night). Then started begging me for a drink like the armless or legless do on the streets, then just said 'ten thousand for me, ok.' I finished up my 30k San Miguel and headed out.
JD

MutantChicken
11-02-09, 18:31
Hello!

Arrived to Saigon yeasterday and after reading in this thread about Smiley's I went with a motorbiketaxi from Q1 and my backpacker hotel. The owner an old lady told my no girl up to room. I sad, what? I cant bring my 2 long year girl friend up to the room? I change hotel tomorrow I sad. Then she say, if she is Vietnamese she must have passport. No GF hotel huh? Ti Ti is the name, 14$ night with free real good Wifi.

Anyway, I head over to Smiley's but first took a pizza close to the bar. On Sundays the have "one free" for every pizza you buy. So I eat one and took one with me to the Smiley's. The girls was very happy for that. I went to this place because I read about the big boobs that should be here, did not find any real big, but pretty girls. 2-3 was minimum 8 in my book.

The girl that was standing with me had a superbody, thin, but with a nice round but. Not "bonebut" many thin girls can have. I gave her 2 LD for 50k each when she was with me. She say, If I want BJ its upstairs and FS is on hotel. I say I cant take you to hotel but the mamasan or who she was behind the bar sad that I just have to give the doorman/lady 100.000 Dong as a bride. I dont now, maybe its better to change hotel than stand there with a girl and boner and then get noathing because of a angry hotelowner. But im going to Singapore in two days anyway so, I dont know..

So, the price was like:

Takeout to hotel: 350k to bar > 1M to lady for two hours two pops.
BBJCIM upstairs: 250k to bar > 350k to lady.

Okey BJ but not deep and sloppy as I like. But she sloppy and slurping more when I asked here. But no deep, I was to big for here little mouth she say, I dont know, becuse I see myself like a average.

Anyway, newbie overprice or standard at Smiley's? I got another girls number when I went to the bathroom. Maybe give her a call. And does the other bars have same sexy, slim hot girls too? Ooooh, why only two days in Saigon!

No brothels or at least bars that have FS? Is it the MP I then have to visit?When I read this, this is the very thing I try and stop from happening.1.35m for a 2 hr 2 pop FS session plus 100k for doorman. I can gt this for 600k max. But honestly I'm only 30, but unless I haven't had sex in 1 week I couldt pop twice in 2 hrs. Maybe when I was 16. Then 600k for a bbbjcom when its going rate is 200k a mere 10min away. Jez man, try reading the forum more than 10 pages deep and you will find better locations.

AdHome01
11-03-09, 16:22
I stopped in at 31 HBT the other night. A sorry place that is. Terrible dingy atmosphere, smoky (from the girls), Vietnamese comedy on TV, 10 or so mostly sullen, poorly painted girls busy with their cigs and text messages. Seven of the ten belong on the ugly girl corner of NCT where they would be lucky to get taken for 150k. The three others, ok but nothing special. Started spouting silly numbers like $40 and $60 and $100 (BJ, 1 Hr, Over Night). Then started begging me for a drink like the armless or legless do on the streets, then just said 'ten thousand for me, ok.' I finished up my 30k San Miguel and headed out.
JD

Is 31 at the end of HBT or it it 35?

Johndao
11-05-09, 08:57
Is 31 at the end of HBT or it it 35?
I may be wrong with my numbers, not sure now that you ask. It was a seedy bar, very small, on HBT before Thien Loc which is on the corner, heading toward the river.

AdHome01
11-05-09, 09:19
I may be wrong with my numbers, not sure now that you ask. It was a seedy bar, very small, on HBT before Thien Loc which is on the corner, heading toward the river.

I think that's 35. Bar 35 and 49 have the same management. I know they're having trouble getting girls to work in 35.

Wendella
11-08-09, 08:27
I may be wrong with my numbers, not sure now that you ask. It was a seedy bar, very small, on HBT before Thien Loc which is on the corner, heading toward the river.

If its the little bar in the middle of the block which has Thien Loc on the corner, that's definitely 35. I didn't realize that place had a tv. There actually is one looker in that place, or was a couple weeks ago when I was there. She used to work at Thien Loc, for a long time. But aside from her, the description is pretty accurate. This place rarely has anything great on offer. 91 is the class of this area.

Can't really compare prices to street girls -- it's a different scene. Here you pay for being able to sit in a downtown bar, have a line up to choose from (some places better than others, of course), chill out, have some drinks and get to 'know' the girl (and I don't mean finding out how many brothers and sisters she has). A lot of these places are a lot more 'comfortable' in an upstairs or back room. And you have a pretty good idea the girl you're with hasn't done 6 customers before you tonight. ;)

I'm not knocking the other choices, just pointing out some of the factors that come into it. Me, I like a bit of warmup hanky panky time before the deed. That doesn't happen with a lot of the other options available. You know, the girl actively trying to do whatever it takes to get you turned on. I'm not a big fan of the Suffragette City style. But that's me.

MutantChicken
11-08-09, 17:51
If its the little bar in the middle of the block which has Thien Loc on the corner, that's definitely 35. I didn't realize that place had a tv. There actually is one looker in that place, or was a couple weeks ago when I was there. She used to work at Thien Loc, for a long time. But aside from her, the description is pretty accurate. This place rarely has anything great on offer. 91 is the class of this area.

Can't really compare prices to street girls -- it's a different scene. Here you pay for being able to sit in a downtown bar, have a line up to choose from (some places better than others, of course), chill out, have some drinks and get to 'know' the girl (and I don't mean finding out how many brothers and sisters she has). A lot of these places are a lot more 'comfortable' in an upstairs or back room. And you have a pretty good idea the girl you're with hasn't done 6 customers before you tonight. ;)

I'm not knocking the other choices, just pointing out some of the factors that come into it. Me, I like a bit of warmup hanky panky time before the deed. That doesn't happen with a lot of the other options available. You know, the girl actively trying to do whatever it takes to get you turned on. I'm not a big fan of the Suffragette City style. But that's me.Having been told by wendella that I should check out the HBt bars I decided to check out 91. Definately some very cute and attractive girls there. On par with hostesses at the disco. We played pool for a few hrs. Got charged 2 lady drinks =100k and on offer was $60 ST or 100 Lt then add on 400k for bar fine. As my friends didn't take up the offer they tipped the girls 100k for their time. Which is comparable to a hostess fee at a night club only beers are 40k instead of 70k. Worth the visit if you just want a girl company. The ST rate of 1.5 mill total price is a bit expensive better to stay overnight.

Crazyazn
11-08-09, 21:03
Having been told by wendella that I should check out the HBt bars I decided to check out 91. Definately some very cute and attractive girls there. On par with hostesses at the disco. We played pool for a few hrs. Got charged 2 lady drinks =100k and on offer was $60 ST or 100 Lt then add on 400k for bar fine. As my friends didn't take up the offer they tipped the girls 100k for their time. Which is comparable to a hostess fee at a night club only beers are 40k instead of 70k. Worth the visit if you just want a girl company. The ST rate of 1.5 mill total price is a bit expensive better to stay overnight.

I wish i was that lucky! When i was there two months ago, and i saw a really cute girl "Tam" that i wanted to bar fine. All i got was a "can't go now" & a fake number.... I'm not ugly nor am i fat!! I was very polite to her, i even bought her & her friend drinks. I also tried going to the one 4 shops down & smiley. But the same thing happen!! I'm viet kieu, and lately i've found HCMC has really become more prejudice towards viet kieu. When "white guys" walk by the door, they are treated like Royalty!! Whereas i get a "what do you want?".

MutantChicken
11-09-09, 03:33
I wish i was that lucky! When i was there two months ago, and i saw a really cute girl "Tam" that i wanted to bar fine. All i got was a "can't go now" & a fake number.... I'm not ugly nor am i fat!! I was very polite to her, i even bought her & her friend drinks. I also tried going to the one 4 shops down & smiley. But the same thing happen!! I'm viet kieu, and lately i've found HCMC has really become more prejudice towards viet kieu. When "white guys" walk by the door, they are treated like Royalty!! Whereas i get a "what do you want?".Well honestly I don't know what is up with your story as I'm also viet kieu but I'm Chinese viet. The girl gave me her number and she offered a deal where she would come to my place so I didn't encounter any prejudice.

Wendella
11-09-09, 08:30
i wish i was that lucky! when i was there two months ago, and i saw a really cute girl "tam" that i wanted to bar fine. all i got was a "can't go now" & a fake number.... i'm not ugly nor am i fat!! i was very polite to her, i even bought her & her friend drinks. i also tried going to the one 4 shops down & smiley. but the same thing happen!! i'm viet kieu, and lately i've found hcmc has really become more prejudice towards viet kieu. when "white guys" walk by the door, they are treated like royalty!! whereas i get a "what do you want?".

this all sounds very strange. someone posted awhile back about some rumor going around of some vk taking a girl out of some bar and then leading her into a gang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) situation at the hotel -- but it was described as possibly just rumor. who knows. i know that bar in particular is especially popular with east asians (japanese, korean, taiwan, singapore) and so the girls are even friendlier with those than with whites. anyway, i tend to think you're jsut the victim of some overzealous profiling. and one more thing: one recent time i visited 91, i got a very cute girl who i picked out, she came upstairs with me (her idea) and then immediately sat on a separate stool a few feet away -- not exactly cozy. next visit, as soon as i spotted her, she made a frowny face -- in other words, i'm not her type. on other visits in the past i've gotten the opposite treatment from other girls. so i guess i'm saying, for myself it's case by case. luck. sometimes it's just beyond your control. go often enough and eventually you'll end up on the lucky side of the coin. also, since 91 tends to have the hottest/youngest girls, they also tend to be (in general) the most spoiled group of girls, and have (in general) worse attitudes and or are less likely to make things especially enjoyable there in the bar. for example, a great makeout session. and i keep saying "in general" because i've experienced some of the best attitudes and enjoyment in that bar as well. if you're really lucky, you'll go there and end up with the brand new, unspoiled very young inexperienced super hot girl who's a bit shy but also very eager to please. worth a visit, i say.

reading mutant's post -- in these bars, you're much more likely to enjoy your time in the bar more thoroughly, so to speak (see above), if you are alone and not with a group of buddies. inhibitions melt away when nobody's around to watch. about pricing -- it's possible to bargain them down a bit. 91 started doing 400k drinks fee this past year, it's always been 300 max until now. and other bars normally want just 300k. too bad you didn't get the 'warmup' time with your girl (it doesn't sound like you did) because that's the best feature of these places. i try to avoid the whole group of boys playing billiards thing. if i want to play billiards, i go play billiards. if i want to go grope a girl, i go do that. doing both at once is to do neither. but the main feature of these places is getting to pick a girl from a lineup of hotties, then having that girl do her best to get you going, knowing it's going to cost you just a few ladys' drinks plus her tip. i never give more than 200k tip for even the best long session with a girl there -- and if there's some place else in town that offers that sort of thing, i'd sure like to hear about it. but once you're at the point of having had your session, if you want you can take her out. you've already bought some of the drinks for her (probably around 3-4 if you've had a good time) so thats' just another 200k to take her out. and deduct her tip from the 1 mil st, since you need to tip her anyway, that's 800k then to go the rest of the way. total of 1 mil more, or a bit more than $50 us. so at that point, look at your girl and ask yourself if finishing this is worth $50 more to you. one thign i will say, these 91 girls do tend to be good once they're back at the hotel. showering together is pretty standard, for example. vastly better attitude than, say, the motorbike girls. (as i type that, i have had occassional excellent bike girls and duds from the hbt bars -- but in general, hbt bars much better).

MutantChicken
11-09-09, 18:54
i wish i was that lucky! when i was there two months ago, and i saw a really cute girl "tam" that i wanted to bar fine. all i got was a "can't go now" & a fake number. i'm not ugly nor am i fat! i was very polite to her, i even bought her & her friend drinks. i also tried going to the one 4 shops down & smiley. but the same thing happen! i'm viet kieu, and lately i've found hcmc has really become more prejudice towards viet kieu. when "white guys" walk by the door, they are treated like royalty! whereas i get a "what do you want? ".i was feeling bored so i went to 91 hbt for a bit of fun, not necessarily for some sex. again plenty of hot girls. i chose a tam. could be the same one nice assets she had, 20 yrsa old. reckons she is saigonese and lives with parents, and her mom picks her up from work so can only go short time, didn't get much groping and she kinda turned sour when i tried to get a few kisses and a feel of what i was hgonna get. not sure how it works in otehr bars but no make out session for me. i suppose a session at ythe bar is only 150-200k for them, but if they get a st or 2 thats 1 mill each time so they not keen on long sessions in the bar as that not where the money is. but definately unless you lucky no make out or much sexual contact ie no hand up dress es unless you borderline [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126). i tried also saigon ny and apple bar. not very attractive girls there.

OzzieSuds
11-10-09, 20:11
Sorry to hear that, Kid. When I was there in March, Smiley's still had two good-looking D-cuppers - no silicon -(600k each) but perhaps they moved on. Has anyone seen any big boob girls in HCM lately? I'll be there again in March 2010.Thanks.

Smiley's now has a sister bar on Thi Sach around the corner and when it first opened most of the better lookers were sent there. Should have settled down by now.

AdHome01
11-11-09, 00:16
I wish i was that lucky! When i was there two months ago, and i saw a really cute girl "Tam" that i wanted to bar fine. All i got was a "can't go now" & a fake number.... I'm not ugly nor am i fat!! I was very polite to her, i even bought her & her friend drinks. I also tried going to the one 4 shops down & smiley. But the same thing happen!! I'm viet kieu, and lately i've found HCMC has really become more prejudice towards viet kieu. When "white guys" walk by the door, they are treated like Royalty!! Whereas i get a "what do you want?".

I asked a few of the HBT girls I know about this issue. They said they are not allowed to service Viet Kieu (bar 91 & 35). They said this is mainly because of the police. They said the police cannot always tell the difference between a local Viet and Viet Kieu. They also said Viet Kieu have a tendency to cause trouble (whatever that means).

Johndao
11-11-09, 01:59
Vastly better attitude than, say, the motorbike girls. (as I type that, I have had occasional excellent bike girls and duds from the HBT bars -- but in general, HBT bars much better).
True, W, but in one case you are talking about 280k including hotel ST and in the other you are talking about 1.4million + hotel (1.7m at least). It's like observing that Lexus are usually more comfortable and less likely to break down than a Kia.
JD

Mash Potatoes
11-11-09, 02:35
I asked a few of the HBT girls I know about this issue. They said they are not allowed to service Viet Kieu (bar 91 & 35). They said this is mainly because of the police. They said the police cannot always tell the difference between a local Viet and Viet Kieu. They also said Viet Kieu have a tendency to cause trouble (whatever that means).The simple reason why these girls don't really want to service Viet Kieus is because of economics. To the average VK 1.7mill for a ST thing is totally overpriced. A lot of the local clubs/bars that VK go to, there are girls readily available for 1mill. So when a VK goes to 91 or the likes and hears 1.7mill, they just laugh or try to haggle.

To the girls and owners, this is bad for business. That's why they don't really welcome Vk or even local VN for that matter. They'd rather stay in the business of overcharging farangs.