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Western787
05-13-14, 03:25
As for Thermae, even though I'll be staying next door, it's unlikely I'll even set foot in there.I assume you are talking the Sofitel next door. That could be useful for Thermae, as I've heard of guys taking rooms in the Ruamchitt, then using its close proximity (right there in fact) to solicit for 1/2 hour quickies, and apparently it works pretty well with some girls in Thermae.
Western787
05-13-14, 03:29
Thermae: the main problem is the quality is not that great. Most of the girls are sub Go Go and by that I mean sub Go Go girls that I am interested in and barfine. They wear poor quality clothing which further conveys to me a lack of overall quality. I was there recently in March. Girls on the left, Girls on the right, Girls in the center: I got the smile and the "take me" look from most. Say 85% which was a better ratio than in 2012 or 2013. I just did not see any girls that I had to have. I really like that "I have to have her feeling" that some girls give me. A few girls gave me the "you don't exist look". !I assume you did NOT do the "General reviewing his troops" style inspection / walk by the Japs routinely do. Of course that is very rare for Farangs anyways.
Member #4698
05-13-14, 03:32
Guess you too are now under of the "yoke of feminist domination." Could be a bad omen for Bangkok.
Consider what you just said about getting LUCKY:555. That's funny. I guess I was hoisted on my own petard. Or not. You know what I meant I. E. Every once in a while some pretty girls can be spotted in Thermae. Not that you are lucky if a Thermae girl will consent to shag you.
LUCKY: I guess "it depends on what the meaning of the word is." Bill Clinton
Paul Kausch
05-13-14, 03:39
You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.The two ladies I met last week are not an isolated instance. Granted I don't waste my time in clubs that draw 25-year olds, I prefer bars ranging from the nice to the average to the not so nice. Less so the latter as I get older. For the past 15 years I've had no problem meeting, dating and fucking non P4P western ladies who are about 30 and younger; I've never had a lady treat me rudely, roll her eyes or ignore me; and if anything it got easier after I passed 55. Of course I observe the ladies and figure out which ones would like me to approach them before I do. Gosh, this is something I learned when I was a teenager. One of the things women complain about is that most men are socially retarded and don't know how to read when they are or aren't interested in a guy.
The most recent Stickman weekly has an illustrative photo. Thank you Stickman for a most instructive visual learning aid.
Paul Kausch
05-13-14, 03:47
I assume you are talking the Sofitel next door. That could be useful for Thermae, as I've heard of guys taking rooms in the Ruamchitt, then using its close proximity (right there in fact) to solicit for 1/2 hour quickies, and apparently it works pretty well with some girls in Thermae.So now I'm confused? I thought you were advising against exposing ones ego to female abuse in Thermae. Of course maybe that is why you suggest I check it out and try to pick up a lady. ;)
Yes. I belong to Club Accor and got a great deal on a room. I checked Trivago and Trip Advisor to compare prices on multiple booking websites, then logged onto the hotel website with my club number. Got a room at 10% lower than the best price on any website. Plus I earn points and have a decent chance at getting a free upgrade when I check in.
Member #4698
05-13-14, 03:48
I assume you did NOT do the "General reviewing his troops" style inspection / walk by the Japs routinely do. Of course that is very rare for Farangs anyways.If it's an inspection I conduct, then it is a very informal one. My M. O. Is to slowly walk around the room a couple of times to see who is around and to note who is smiling at me and making themselves available. Then I usually sit down at the island bar near a girl or girls I found relatively attractive and order a coke. After I finish the coke I usually walk around the room again once or twice more to make sure I did not miss anybody. I smile at some of the girls, ask myself if I want to get more involved here, and then I usually head off to greener pastures. At this time of night, it is now time to head over to Climax or some other place on Soi 11.
Many of the Thermae girls simply don't want to be seen by their friends and the Japanese leaving with a Farang. It is a mark against them. Sort of like when we see a girl go off with 3 Indians! I have a friend there that I know pre-Thermae and she hooks me up with Thermae girls from time to time. Nice ones imo. But they come straight to my hotel with her. And when I see them in Thermae all I get is a brief nod and fleeting smile. Which is fine by me.
Absolutely not impossible today except perhaps with the 10 to 20 (or even lower number) obvious super cuties (out of the 120 to 150 mostly average to slightly hot girls typically in there by midnight). The most serious ones will have the Jap style hairdo and stand on the left side in a very passive way, (just as the Japs prefer it) some holding their nightbag ready to go, and wait patiently and standing very still while waiting for the "General inspecting his troops" style walk by which the Japs have down to a science.
Of course those are the precise girls many Farangs obviously fantasize about, and which (if they don't know the deal) end up making fools of themselves slobbering over them as they are turned down after seeing them standing in the same spot for hours.
I suspect (for want of a better term) some of the "teen dream" types could be bribed by Farangs, but I have never heard of anyone actually claiming successfully going OTC after overpaying at bribe levels, lets say combined with discreetly suggesting a place to meetup later.
Note the pattern you see: Farang walks up to "teen dream" and gets shot down, then (for him to save face) hits on the adjacent (generally avg girls) and they (to also save face) then also shoot him down one after the other.
While there are hardened pros in there all the time (many on the right wall) , Thermae does seem to draw in some fresh faced apple pie types (the eastern version at least) some of whom are hot in a teen dream sort of way (10 to 20 tops some nights, if even that many) , and I think that's why Farangs are drawn to the place, even though the odds are not good for the average Farang in regard to pulling any out.I haven't liked the place since 07. Used to be a party every night. When you did a "lap" gals would grab your unit, flirt, talk to you. Always girls dancing at the juke box. Drinks flowed. Now it is like a morgue in there.
Many of the Thermae girls simply don't want to be seen by their friends and the Japanese leaving with a Farang. It is a mark against them. Sort of like when we see a girl go off with 3 Indians! I have a friend there that I know pre-Thermae and she hooks me up with Thermae girls from time to time. Nice ones imo. But they come straight to my hotel with her. And when I see them in Thermae all I get is a brief nod and fleeting smile. Which is fine by me.Yep, had one friend (young good looking farang dude) whom a very hot Thermae girl took a liking to. However, she would not be seen living with him, rather would meet him out back. She was more worried about her friends seeing her than the Japanese dudes.
You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.
Now as for Thermae, most of the girls shooting Farangs down over and over again, are at least polite in a cursory way at least.And most men above 50 have a some tact and can sum up a situation with a gal in a short while. Where I come from in the US gals are not rude like that, well, unless the guy is.
And BTW, we came to Thailand so we would not have to worry about or deal with that attitude you speak of. That is the whole point. Now there are hookers acting that way!
You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.
Now as for Thermae, most of the girls shooting Farangs down over and over again, are at least polite in a cursory way at least.Without being rude we are still paying working girls, without making it a big deal, we are the customers and they are the providers, without arrogance I think mutual respect is necessary from both parties.
I do not expect they go with anyone approaching them just because he pays, but a polite "thanks but no thanks" can be given by the girl without costing her an arm and a leg.
There are hundreds of polite excuses they can come with, if they want.
Just as much as creative they are sometime in cheating customers with "have to go back as my roommate lost the keys","you are too big and I can't get it","I have my period what about a HJ (once in the room)" etc.
Without being rude we are still paying working girls, without making it a big deal, we are the customers and they are the providers, without arrogance I think mutual respect is necessary from both parties.
I do not expect they go with anyone approaching them just because he pays, but a polite "thanks but no thanks" can be given by the girl without costing her an arm and a leg.
There are hundreds of polite excuses they can come with, if they want.
Just as much as creative they are sometime in cheating customers with "have to go back as my roommate lost the keys","you are too big and I can't get it","I have my period what about a HJ (once in the room)" etc.Very well stated.
Western787
05-13-14, 09:34
So now I'm confused? I thought you were advising against exposing ones ego to female abuse in Thermae. Of course maybe that is why you suggest I check it out and try to pick up a lady. ;)To keep the masses entertained the Roman Coliseum requires a constant infusion of new Gladiators ready to go to battle.
Paul Kausch
05-13-14, 12:22
To keep the masses entertained the Roman Coliseum requires a constant infusion of new Gladiators ready to go to battle.Am I man enough to meet the challenge?
PolyOrchid
05-13-14, 14:33
The most recent Stickman weekly has an illustrative photo. Thank you Stickman for a most instructive visual learning aid.Such sartorial excellence and still he was denied? Well, suck me sideways; what's next in the wonderful world of mature mongering?
Ok, so are hotel safes generally in-room or behind the desk in the front desk?
What are coyote bars? And what is the difference between them and go-go bars? How do I spot them?
How do I know if a place is Japanese only?
How much are most ST hotels nowadays?
So if a cop stops me with a color copy of my passport, what happens, can I be arrested?
Have you guy ever gotten complaints from a nice hotel for bring p4p girls to your room?
And final question about asian countries in general. When paying for an hour. Two pops are a given am I correct?
Wolvenvacht
05-13-14, 18:45
When making copies of you passport or other documents with sensitive personal information, please remember that all modern copy machines are essentially computers with memories that keep the image of you documents on their memories and / or hard drives. So anything you copy on a commercial or large scale public copier is stored on its hard drive.
There has been incidents in the past few years where old discarded machines were dumped at landfills and hackers were able to salvage the memories stored on these drives. If my memory serves me, a law firm in CA was essentially blackmailed for all the confidential client data that was left on their old copier. It had over 10 years of documents stored in the internal memory of the copier!10 years of documents on the hard-disk of the copier / scanner? That must have been a huge and hugely expensive hard-disk (especially if it was made more than 10 years ago). Do you eally think the manufacturer would put in a few terabyte of harddisks with NO function to retrieve old documents when a few gigabyte will be enough? Just so Mr Random Hacker can salvage your old scans? Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
The risk is not worse than having anyone making a paper copy of your ID or passport. This happens millions of times everyday in hotels all over the world. What stops them from selling your data to some passport forging ops? Common human decency perhaps? People are not that bad, as you seem to think. Enjoy life!
Wolvenvacht
05-13-14, 19:03
Typical Oz, euro or other western based Farangs have considerably larger average size than Asians, so its hardly a myth in relative terms. Asians in general do in fact have the smallest average dick sizes in the world, and African countries the largest, something very obvious on the map below.
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073Very strange map: do they really mean the French or Belgians have (on the average) larger dicks than Americans? And the "Hung"arians are hung like donkeys?
Paul Kausch
05-13-14, 19:09
Very strange map: do they really mean the French or Belgians have (on the average) larger dicks than Americans? And the "Hung"arians are hung like donkeys?Must be a spoof. Hard to understand why someone would go to such big trouble for such a small joke.
FruitNinja
05-13-14, 19:57
Must be a spoof. Hard to understand why someone would go to such big trouble for such a small joke.Spoof or not it's reassuring to know that I have my countrymen beat by 1.8". Yay for my my penis! Good job!
I do not expect they go with anyone approaching them just because he pays, but a polite "thanks but no thanks" can be given by the girl without costing her an arm and a leg.
There are hundreds of polite excuses they can come with, if they want.
Just as much as creative they are sometime in cheating customers with "have to go back as my roommate lost the keys","you are too big and I can't get it","I have my period what about a HJ (once in the room)" etc.Personality I have no interest in lame bullshit excuses. She can simply say she only takes Japanese if that is true, or not even give a reason. Just "no thanks" is okay They can take whoever they want. Its that simple.
I read this on Stickman weekly?
What is this? I am going to stay around asok will they stop me every day and ask for what?
Search my things?
Why?
The branch of the constabulary charged with looking after Sukhumvit Road east of the Asoke intersection seems determined to make it the safest place in the city. After a lull when it seems they were performing their duties elsewhere, they have resumed checking foreign males on foot in the area and are more active than ever. Their actions have become so visible. Stand on the skywalk near Exchange Tower looking east down on Sukhumvit for a while and you might see them. That it's almost as if they have a quota of searches they have to carry out each day. At the Asoke intersection itself and just east along Sukhumvit Road near the start of sois 18, 20, 22, 23, 25, 27 and 29 is where foreign males strolling are most likely to be stopped and asked to submit to a search of their person and belongings.
This may be a little long but here goes. This is my plan and I would appreciate any advice or tell me if I am totally mistaken about something. I will be arriving BKK May 20 at midnight and will exchange about $150 at the airport to get started, then take a taxi to the Nana Plaza, because the train station will be closed. I will attempt to get a room at either the Nana Hotel, Dynasty, Majestic Suites or the CheQinn. I am hoping I can get a better rate showing up than booking online. Since it will be around 2am, does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do for the few hours till the morning, so I won't have to pay a whole night stay at a hotel? I will have a small backpack and a small rolling bag. I would like to lock these up somewhere safe and go to a late night club till morning or are there any short stay hotels that will let me sleep for 3 or 4 hours for 300bht in that area as it seems to be in the middle of the action?
I will be in Thailand for 10 days and my goal is to do 30 to 50 girls. Call it the bang of a lifetime. There is so much talk about rates and I don't know what to believe. My plan is to average 1300bht per girl short stay (300 is for bar fine or tip if she is good). Oh, I read some get it for 500-800bht but it seem doubtful after reading recent posts. I may try a soapy or oily or MP and I'll pay the going rate which seems to be 2400bht. My tastes are simple. I like them younger (under 25) , thin and as long as their face is a 5/10 or above, I'm good. I don't need PSE or GFE. I always use a condom and I don't mind CBJ. My kink is I like the girl to put on some velcro handcuffs behind her back. These cuffs come apart very easily and I have done it in other parts of the world. Will this be a problem in Thialand? As I have gotten older, it takes me longer to cum. Having sex for 30 to 60 straight minutes is not uncommon for me so I tend to wear out the girls. The handcuffs help. Also if you bring a girl to your room, do you pay up front, after, or 50/50? What is the custom in Thailand?
I also plan on getting some tennis lessons between girls. I am an advanced player as I was on the satellite circuit in my 20s. I hear lesson are cheap (300bht for the assistant pro). I doubt they can teach me anything, but it will be good exercise to hit with someone good.
I will be in Bangkok the 20th to the 23rd then in Pattaya from the 23rd to the 31st (leaving at 6am). Is it correct a bus to Pattaya is about 100bht and takes 2 hrs and a taxi 600bht but only an hour? What about a tok tok? Do they go that far and how much will it cost? I think it would be a blast seeing the countryside in a tok tok or is that a bad idea?
In Pattaya I plan on staying at the Whitehouse Condotel which is close to Walking Street. I went on their website and there was no mention of tax or fees like in agoda. Com. Is it the custom to omit the tax and fees or are they included? Once again I will partake of the of the offerings and play some tennis Pattaya. I am not much of a drinker. My drink of choice is Redbull and vodka as it does not slow me down. I know it is a pussy drink, but I like what I like. I am also planning on getting a tattoo so some suggestions of a shop and an good artist would be greatly appreciated. On a side note, I want to stock up on some antibiotics to take home. Can I easily purchase them?
I would like to get together with some like minded people to hunt, drink and / or play tennis. The more the merrier I always say! Hell, I'll even split a deluxe room if you're cool, though I don't know how much you will use it with my 30-50 girl goal. Get your own girl and we'll trade mid way thru! I may reach 100! I'm 42, 6'2" (188cm).195lbs (88. 5kg) and here is my [Deleted by Admin]
I am posting this in the Bangkok and Pattaya Reports and will post my progress each day depending on wifi access and if I'm still alive.
Alex
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Western787
05-14-14, 03:32
And most men above 50 have a some tact and can sum up a situation with a gal in a short while. Where I come from in the US gals are not rude like that, well, unless the guy is.
And BTW, we came to Thailand so we would not have to worry about or deal with that attitude you speak of. That is the whole point. Now there are hookers acting that way!The relative bargaining power of the parties is what determines price, service, and attitude. While no provider should be rude, the power in Bangkok has shifted in the direction of providers (and bar owners are saying the same thing). Now if it were just Bangkok that would one thing, but it seems to be all over, for example Burma, Vietnam, and Phils looks to be the same, in AC with some of the the Fields Ave large club hotties purportedly copping attitudes with Farangs while they fall all over Koreans.
Men in brown have been doing this for ages now, back in 2012 I was stopped and searched twice in a period of 48 hours close to were my hotel was, Suk22. I don't have junky looks nor a doctor but they still stopped me and ask for passport and was asked to remove things of my pockets.
I read this on Stickman weekly?
What is this? I am going to stay around asok will they stop me every day and ask for what?
Search my things?
Why?
The branch of the constabulary charged with looking after Sukhumvit Road east of the Asoke intersection seems determined to make it the safest place in the city. After a lull when it seems they were performing their duties elsewhere, they have resumed checking foreign males on foot in the area and are more active than ever. Their actions have become so visible. Stand on the skywalk near Exchange Tower looking east down on Sukhumvit for a while and you might see them. That it's almost as if they have a quota of searches they have to carry out each day. At the Asoke intersection itself and just east along Sukhumvit Road near the start of sois 18, 20, 22, 23, 25, 27 and 29 is where foreign males strolling are most likely to be stopped and asked to submit to a search of their person and belongings.
I haven't liked the place since 07. Used to be a party every night. When you did a "lap" gals would grab your unit, flirt, talk to you. Always girls dancing at the juke box. Drinks flowed. Now it is like a morgue in there.Which is weird in the sense that Thai's love to have fun and fool around and yet the Thermae girls have to turn into automatons when they go work there not joking with the customers or the other girls. Just bowing their heads and opening their mouths to let the Japanese inspect their teeth. Or so it seems. Is that really the Japanese preference? Most Japanese I know love carousing especially after a few drinks. I do go in from time to time to kill time and have a cool drink and I think it's important sometimes to receive a dose of humility. How often do we shake off a girl who approaches us with a curt shake of our head because she is too old or not to our liking. In Thermae we get a taste of that. Not that I like it but a bit of reality pops the bubble we build around ourselves there.
Member #4591
05-14-14, 11:53
Climax is a great place to meet FL's. Plenty of action after midnight. It was a Monday night and I arrived about 11:30. I love to watch the talent arrive. I noticed a little cute walk in with two friends. One of the tightest asses I have seen in a while. I approached her and offered to buy her a drink. Her name was Apple. She had just arrived from Kaw Samui and was complaining how nobody liked her. We chit chatted for about 30 minutes and then she said it was time I went to look for a girl. I said I already found her. She smiled with glee and we rode off into the sunset. I never discuss money with the girls in the bar and so far it has worked well for me. We arrived at my home. Typical Thai lady shower and towel cover up after. She was drunk and so was I after an afternoon and evening at the Soi 7 beer garden. We started making about and I could not keep my hands off her ass. Data started from behind as she moaned and squeezed. Looking at that ass made me so horny and I could not resist and ploughed my clock deep into her pussy from behind. She wiggled around on my cock and I could not take it anymore and blew my juice deep inside her. We were both drunk and collapsed on the bed and fell asleep. The next morning I was ready for round two. Se was shy a this point so it was missionary all the way. I stuck my cock deep in her pussy bareback again. God it was so tight and smooth. What a night?
Member #4591
05-14-14, 12:25
Soi cowboy too commercial now but I love Nana Plaza. Second floor two bars down from Angel Witch there is a small bar with real cuties. Lin was a big titted young thing. After a few drinks and a 600 bar fine we were off to drink at climax. Bottle of gin and we were both hammered. I could not wait to bury my face and cock in those tits. Shower together and good blow. On the bed she stroked my clock and said I want feel you inside me. Really I said. She said so horny and not fucked for 2 weeks. Condomless she hoped on and grinder away. What a feeling she gave me. I blew my load quickly on her tits and slept. Round two coming up in the AM.
I read this on Stickman weekly?
What is this? I am going to stay around asok will they stop me every day and ask for what?
Search my things?
Why?
At the Asoke intersection itself and just east along Sukhumvit Road near the start of sois 18, 20, 22, 23, 25, 27 and 29 is where foreign males strolling are most likely to be stopped and asked to submit to a search of their person and belongings.Searching for condoms and lubes? What else? Trying to read the mind of the mongerers?
"what's your wish, Sir?
"maybe shagging some thai hooker".
"Sir, you are charged for bad mind! Area cleaned from punters, captain!
Personality I have no interest in lame bullshit excuses. She can simply say she only takes Japanese if that is true, or not even give a reason. Just "no thanks" is okay They can take whoever they want. Its that simple.Nobody disputes the "no" and also the reason behind the no ("better money and less work if taking guys from the land of rising sun" but a certain attitude might be annoying.
As I said, as much as they deserve respect, also the paying party deserves respect.
Member #4263
05-14-14, 14:27
Hi Guys,
Will be visiting BKK for few days.
Can anyone recommend a good soapy massage place near sukhumwit 15 except annies?
WWPM me and I'll help.
Lord Necros
05-14-14, 19:35
as promised, the final fr from my bkk trip.
in many of the old reports, there was something i saw over and over again. how even experienced mongers would fall in love with a girl and would end up wanting their companionship more than their bodies. i would see regular warning of people telling each other not to repeat girls too much.
don't keep her around for more than a week, mate. or she will own you.
buts that all old tales. well, when does that happens in mongering?
pay girl, shoot load.
it was time for me to end my short vacation and return to the hum-dum of regular life – my last day in bkk.
in the morning i was in a circumspect mood. last night i had my brush with a bit of racism at rainbow 4 and i really was no longer in a party mood. i had planned to goto tulip's that day but i didn't have the greatest time at annie's, and as such didn't think that the soapy experience would work for me.
with no direction and plan, i left my room around room and walked around aimlessly for a while, checking out the various sois / alleys around nana. thinking of pushing myself out of my comfort zone and have local thai food, i soon found myself at the suda restaurant. while i ate, i wondered why the name sounded so familiar. i checked my phone where i had taken notes of places of interest and realized that it was right next door to another bj bar called som's haven.
oh well. why not check it out?
i walked towards the bar. a small group of girls sat outside. seeing me about to enter, they greeted me. knowing the routine by now, i smiled and shook my head and walked into the shop by myself. i didn't want to pick up just any random girl. i had something specific in mind.
before i go any further, let me tell you bit about the interior of this place. it doesn't looks like a place of business. it doesn't looks like a bj bar. oh yes, the lights are low and there are coolers full of alcohol and you will have girls in sexy outfits walking in and out all the time. but som's looks like a boutique shop. it is chock full of personality. the walls are adorned with silly posters with silly quotes on them. there are a lot of strange small souvenirs strewn all over the tiny lounge. above the reception table hangs a bell, with a wooden penis strung to it by a chain. the place just exudes individuality. you get the feeling that someone has put in the effort to make the place theirs. i liked it.
som herself is an ex-[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl and a veteran of the trade. and a damn fine hostess.
as i entered, som looked at me quizzically. like most places, i think she isn't used to having brown skinned people walking into her shop all alone. i think most of these places are worried that i might be just a lost tourist. by this time, i knew how to start the talk.
"i would like a beer and a blowjob please", i said with a grin. som laughed in return.
i sat by the bar and had a beer and chatted with her for a while. she never hurried me and i loved her for this.
som speaks excellent english and knows how to keep a conversation flowing.
after my beer was done, i asked her that i am looking for a girl who can deepthroat me.
som leaned over suspiciously, "how big are you?
not that big, you can check. i replied. som laughed.
she then went out to talk with her girls and returned shortly with a cute little thing. her name was nue / new. nue was a chirpy little cracker. i asked her if she would like a drink? and she loved the idea.
i got myself another drink. i was a bit worried that som might not like the fact that i had gone for my 2nd drink but if that bothered her, som didn't show it. me and nue chatted a bit till our drinks were done. then we went upstairs into the small cabins.
each of these booths was a small 8 ft by 10 ft room with a tiny attached bathroom. after cleaning me up, nue started the job. she sure could deepthroat. my load popped in her mouth, we returned back to the lounge. here we chit chatted a bit. som wanted to know how did i find her shop?
i told her that it comes highly recommended on the various forums and sites. she asked a bit about what people say about her shop. i gave her the bits of reviews that i had read before i came to bkk. she seemed happy that people were talking positively about her shop but seemed insecure about its size.
don't you think this is too small? do you think we have enough girls?
i told her that the size of her place was perfect for me. and if she had just nue in her group, i would still be a happy customer.
she taught me a few thai words. how to say thank you. welcome.
som also offered that if i wanted, and if there were no other customers waiting, i could get blown right in the lounge itself. i made a mental note of that.
i left the place after paying the 700 b + drinks bill.
i also handed a 200 b tip to nue. i don't know if nue genuinely liked me but it sure felt nice to have a tiny livewire of a girl gushing about in your arms. as i left, nue put her arms around me, tiptoed as high as her small frame would allow and gave me a good bye kiss (relax. no dfk. a prim and proper peck). i was lost then.
i returned to my hostel. all my plans were gone. and i had as goofy retarded grin on my face most of the afternoon.
i had never panned to repeat a place. there was so muchto see and so much to do in bkk. but as night came, i found myself outside som's haven.
i went in. som seemed surprised to see me there again.
well my flight is in a few hours. just wanted to make a final memory here.
"you want something gentle? she asked.
"yes. i am somewhat out of steam. not sure if i can go for a hard round". som just nodded knowingly.
she called out and a new girl came up to me. her name was kai.
kai was another petite little lady with the sweetest face. she had a smile and an expression which just grew on you. i offered her the lady drinks and she got some orange juice.
after our drinks were done and the chit chat over, we went upstairs. kai gave a nice bbbj, but she really couldn't swallow much of me. still it was nice and gentle. after 20 minutes without coming (i was totally out of gravy) i had to ask her to stop. she seemed a bit disappointed but never lost her smile.
the more i looked at her, the more i realized she was the most beautiful woman i had seen in bkk. perhaps i was a bit drunk, a we bit daft and maybe the light was too low, but he dimples on her cheeks when she smiled did an absolute number on me. she was the kind you want to gather in your arms and just kiss her all over.
i had two women in my two trips to som's. both had done something to me which had never happened to me in all my years of mongering. i was infatuated with them.
(are you still with me? damn you have some serious patience!
when we returned to the lounge, i found nue there again. she teased me a bit about how hurt she was that me, her "husbando" has gone with another girl.
we had a bit of a husbando-waifu argument after which i got hugs from both my ladies.
meanwhile som made up my bill. being the brilliant cat that i am, i asked what was the story behind the penis-bell. she said that if someone is really happy with the service, they can ring the bell up.
i am absolutely in love with your place, i declared.
then you should ring it. she naughtily suggested.
i am an idiot. i grabbed the wooden dick and rang the bell.
immediately a cheer rang outside.
som informed me that ringing the bell meant that i now had to buy drinks for every one. i didn't believe it and asked her if she was pulling my leg. she said nope.
in all such places which have a bell, ringing it means that you should get drinks for everyone.
seeing my bewildered face, she said that i didn't really have to as i didn't know about the rule.
fuck it. i was feeling happy. i told her that i will honor the tradition. get drinks for everyone.
som was concerned. she twice told me that i didn't have to. but i persisted.
i am generally a crochety miserly bastard. but i was in love with som's haven. and i wanted them to know that.
with a final bill of over 2500 b the night was over. as i left the place with a lingering heart, my waifu gave a me a kiss again. and everytime she laughed and swayed around on her 4 inch heels, she broke my heart into itty bitty pieces.
i had said before, my experience at nep pretty much ruined my trip. but then the trip to som's fixed me.
i left bkk with a resolve of coming back and meeting my two ladies again. and maybe this time taking them for lt. at the very least i want to lift nue in my arms and her call me "husbando" again.
som's was a place where i was treated like a friend. i never felt that people are talking to me just because i was a paying customer. i felt welcome. i felt warmth. i felt like i was in the lost place i read old punters speak of. this was the feeling i wanted to feel when i came to this country.
i don't know what kind of punter you are. but i will recommend som's haven with all my heart.
Wolvenvacht
05-14-14, 20:00
This may be a little long but here goes. This is my plan and I would appreciate any advice or tell me if I am totally mistaken about something. I will be arriving BKK May 20 at midnight and will exchange about $150 at the airport to get started, then take a taxi to the Nana Plaza, because the train station will be closed. I will attempt to get a room at either the Nana Hotel, Dynasty, Majestic Suites or the CheQinn. I am hoping I can get a better rate showing up than booking online. Since it will be around 2am, does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do for the few hours till the morning, so I won't have to pay a whole night stay at a hotel? I will have a small backpack and a small rolling bag. I would like to lock these up somewhere safe and go to a late night club till morning or are there any short stay hotels that will let me sleep for 3 or 4 hours for 300bht in that area as it seems to be in the middle of the action? Exchange more money at the airport, the difference in rates between the airport and the best exchange boots is tiny and IMHO not worth the hassle to compare all the rates to find the best one. You seem to get better rates for big bills, so don't bring ones and fives, but exchange USD 100 bills.
I think it is unlikely to find a better rate at the hotel in the middle of the night as most probable the manager with the authority to negotiate the rate will not be available. Do you really want to walk Sukhumvit road to find a cheap hotel? Tired and jet-lagged as you will be? With your luggage on the uneven pavements of Bangkok? Book yourself a hotel on booking (dot) com (much better site than Agoda and they include all taxes with no hidden extras) so you can drop your bags, shower and join the action without delay. Or much better get some rest so you are fit for the next day.
I will be in Thailand for 10 days and my goal is to do 30 to 50 girls. Call it the bang of a lifetime. There is so much talk about rates and I don't know what to believe. My plan is to average 1300bht per girl short stay (300 is for bar fine or tip if she is good). Oh, I read some get it for 500-800bht but it seem doubtful after reading recent posts. I may try a soapy or oily or MP and I'll pay the going rate which seems to be 2400bht. My tastes are simple. I like them younger (under 25) , thin and as long as their face is a 5/10 or above, I'm good. I don't need PSE or GFE. I always use a condom and I don't mind CBJ. My kink is I like the girl to put on some velcro handcuffs behind her back. These cuffs come apart very easily and I have done it in other parts of the world. Will this be a problem in Thialand? As I have gotten older, it takes me longer to cum. Having sex for 30 to 60 straight minutes is not uncommon for me so I tend to wear out the girls. The handcuffs help. Also if you bring a girl to your room, do you pay up front, after, or 50/50? What is the custom in Thailand?I think your budget is on the very low side. Unless you really only want to bang streetwalkers or free-lancers, you won't find a bar or club with a 300 baht barfine in Bangkok. They start at 600 baht nowadays and ST is at least 1500 baht. In soapies or oilies your total cost is probably more close to 3000 baht (including drinks and tip). In a MP you will pay 200-400 baht for the massage and the room and 1000 baht for HJ, 1200 baht for BJ and 1500 baht for FS. Pattaya generally is cheaper than Bangkok. Soi 6 girls will be 1000 baht for one pop + 300 baht for the room / barfine + whatever you drink and her ladydrink. A realistic price would be 1500-1700 baht. Beachroad girls can be had for less I heard (I never go with streetwalkers).
Handcuffs? Mmmm, you will have to negotiate that well beforehand. Don't pull out the handcuffs when you have already agreed to go with her. Personally I doubt Thai girls will be very fond of such thing, but YMMV. Contrary to popular belief young Thai girls are rather conservative in sexual matters. I think you will have better chance if you go with more mature (30+) ladies.
As to payment, other than the barfine or massage fee, you pay at the end. Certainly if you bring her to your hotel room.
I also plan on getting some tennis lessons between girls. I am an advanced player as I was on the satellite circuit in my 20s. I hear lesson are cheap (300bht for the assistant pro). I doubt they can teach me anything, but it will be good exercise to hit with someone good.I have no idea. Just the thought of playing tennis in a 40C humid environment makes me faint already.
I will be in Bangkok the 20th to the 23rd then in Pattaya from the 23rd to the 31st (leaving at 6am). Is it correct a bus to Pattaya is about 100bht and takes 2 hrs and a taxi 600bht but only an hour? What about a tok tok? Do they go that far and how much will it cost? I think it would be a blast seeing the countryside in a tok tok or is that a bad idea?
I think the bus was a bit over 100 baht and longer than 2 hours. A Bangkok taxi to Pattaya will be anything between 1500 and 2000 baht and can take anything from 2 hours to much more depending on the traffic It once took me over an hour just to leave central Bangkok. Forget the tuk-tuk plan. It will cost you a fortune and takes ages to get to Pattaya. Besides the countryside between Bangkok and Pattaya has nothing special.
In Pattaya I plan on staying at the Whitehouse Condotel which is close to Walking Street. I went on their website and there was no mention of tax or fees like in agoda. Com. Is it the custom to omit the tax and fees or are they included? Once again I will partake of the of the offerings and play some tennis Pattaya. I am not much of a drinker. My drink of choice is Redbull and vodka as it does not slow me down. I know it is a pussy drink, but I like what I like. I am also planning on getting a tattoo so some suggestions of a shop and an good artist would be greatly appreciated. On a side note, I want to stock up on some antibiotics to take home. Can I easily purchase them? .
Always count on hidden extras, taxes, service fee, ... Get your hotel on booking (dot) com and be guaranteed a fix price.
For antibiotics, just go to any pharmacy. Of course it is a bad idea to take antibiotics without a real necessity, but you know that, don't you?
The more I looked at her, the more I realized she was the most beautiful woman I had seen in BKK. Perhaps I was a bit drunk, a we bit daft and maybe the light was too low, but he dimples on her cheeks when she smiled did an absolute number on me. She was the kind you want to gather in your arms and just kiss her all over.Breaking news! Man goes to Bangkok and the most beautiful woman he sees is in a BJ bar. Funny, but it had to be the low light and your altered state.
Meanwhile Som made up my bill. Being the brilliant cat that I am, I asked what was the story behind the penis-bell. She said that If someone is really happy with the service, they can ring the bell up.
I am absolutely in love with your place, I declared.
Then you should ring it. She naughtily suggested.
I am an idiot. I grabbed the wooden dick and rang the bell.
Immediately a cheer rang outside.
Som informed me that ringing the bell meant that I now had to buy drinks for every one. IFor the uninitiated, don't try this at those other bars if you don't want to buy drinks for the whole bar. Some bars will hold your feet to the fire once you ring that bell and make you buy those drinks.
Lord Necros
05-14-14, 21:22
Breaking news! Man goes to Bangkok and the most beautiful woman he sees is in a BJ bar. Funny, but it had to be the low light and your altered state.Yep. Guess having a girl face humping your dick stacks things a bit in her favor.
Seriously though, I have traveled a bit and mongered in many countries. So, you can bet I am not that green.
I saw many girls prettier than Kai. with far far better and sculpted bodies. Heck, Kai later told me her age which seemed too high for me to believe.
Yet, Kai is beautiful to me, and I stand by my assessment. I don't fall for women easily, least of all service providers.
Anyway, when I next go back to BKK, I will know how much of my assessment was just the booze talking. :D
For the uninitiated, don't try this at those other bars if you don't want to buy drinks for the whole bar. Some bars will hold your feet to the fire once you ring that bell and make you buy those drinks.Yep. Don't do this at BJ Bars kids.
Not unless you want to be poorer by a few thousand bahts.
Exchange more money at the airport, the difference in rates between the airport and the best exchange boots is tiny and IMHO not worth the hassle to compare all the rates to find the best one. You seem to get better rates for big bills, so don't bring ones and fives, but exchange USD 100 bills.
For antibiotics, just go to any pharmacy. Of course it is a bad idea to take antibiotics without a real necessity, but you know that, don't you?A whole lot or wise suggestions, but I fear over half of them will be unheard...and I can anticipate we shall see a report in a few weeks of "extremely disappointed", "ripped off", "girls refused the tenth pop in an hour" etc.
If someone wants to save a hotel night as he arrives soon after midnight is the indication that even 7/11 has too expensive beers..(for him).
Sir Lancelot
05-14-14, 23:37
I will be in Thailand for 10 days and my goal is to do 30 to 50 girls. Call it the bang of a lifetime.Five girls a day is ambitious! It's doable but you'll be extremely rushed and wouldn't be able to savour your trip as you otherwise might. I think you'd have a far better time if you set your sights more realistically (20 or 30 girls) and that would give you the budget to aim for more quality.
If you get a bus from Bangkok to Pattaya, go via Ekkamai bus station (right below the skytrain station, a few stops from the Nana area). A bus costs 124 baht and goes direct, so it's not that much slower than a taxi. It took me two and a half hours recently but can take less time if you're lucky with traffic. Don't even entertain the thought of a tuk-tuk for this trip. A lot of your other questions were answered in the diary I recently posted.
Exchange more money at the airport, the difference in rates between the airport and the best exchange boots is tiny and IMHO not worth the hassle to compare all the rates to find the best one. You seem to get better rates for big bills, so don't bring ones and fives, but exchange USD 100 bills.
I think it is unlikely to find a better rate at the hotel in the middle of the night as most probable the manager with the authority to negotiate the rate will not be available. Do you really want to walk Sukhumvit road to find a cheap hotel? Tired and jet-lagged as you will be? With your luggage on the uneven pavements of Bangkok? Book yourself a hotel on booking (dot) com (much better site than Agoda and they include all taxes with no hidden extras) so you can drop your bags, shower and join the action without delay. Or much better get some rest so you are fit for the next day.
I think your budget is on the very low side. Unless you really only want to bang streetwalkers or free-lancers, you won't find a bar or club with a 300 baht barfine in Bangkok. They start at 600 baht nowadays and ST is at least 1500 baht. In soapies or oilies your total cost is probably more close to 3000 baht (including drinks and tip). In a MP you will pay 200-400 baht for the massage and the room and 1000 baht for HJ, 1200 baht for BJ and 1500 baht for FS. Pattaya generally is cheaper than Bangkok. Soi 6 girls will be 1000 baht for one pop + 300 baht for the room / barfine + whatever you drink and her ladydrink. A realistic price would be 1500-1700 baht. Beachroad girls can be had for less I heard (I never go with streetwalkers).
As to payment, other than the barfine or massage fee, you pay at the end. Certainly if you bring her to your hotel room. I will exchange more money at the airport, since the difference is not that great. In some countries I have seen a 20% upcharge. I will also book a room ahead of time using the site you mentioned, I hate hidden fees! I am disappointed in the prices you have shared, while not out of my budget, I had hoped it would be better. You do not seem to like freelancers. Why? From the recent youtube videos of Nana Plaza and Walking Street I saw a lot of very acceptable freelancers. Also, what are Soi 6 girls?
Eric Swiss
05-15-14, 05:13
I went to Nana Plaza around 11 am. First a beer at Rainbow 3 to warm up. I don't like the fact that the girls don't rotate, so you end up always looking at the same one dancing in front of you.
Then tried Hot Lips as my curiosity had been aroused by Stickman's recent column. Was pretty nice. I liked the ambiance. I bought a lady drink but then the girl informed me she was a coyote, so I cut it short.
Made my way to Rainbow 4 expecting I would consume there. Lots of hotties dancing. I bought a lady drink for one of them, but she asked 2500 Baht for short time so I told her no. My price point is 2000.
At that point I was ready to dive into any go-go bar where there was a bit of atmosphere, so I ended up at Spanky's. The girls seemed to be having a lot of fun. They cleared the stage and three girls put in a Spanish- or Mexican-theme dance act. One of them was really shaking her money-maker. The mamasan saw I was looking so she told me to buy her a lady drink so I obliged. Her name was Mae. Her English was excellent. She was pretty, I'd say a high 7. She had a bit of flesh on her bones. She wasn't fat but you could tell she would be in 5 years. I thought that was sexy. Anyway, she is the one who proposed going out. I told her I wanted her to put on a costume. She didn't get it and yelled across the floor to the Mamasan: "I don't understand my boy!" It's been many years since anybody called me a boy... Mamasan translated my wishes and we settled on a air hostess costume. I made clear I wanted her to keep it on while I was fucking her.
We went to the short-time hotel. She changed into her air hostess costume. Very sexy! She asked if I liked music. I said yes and she put her favorite tunes on loud from her Samsung Galaxy. She started dancing like the girls on MTV. She was really good at it. The new Beyonc! I was super hard from her strip tease. She kneeled down and blew me (no shower, no condom...) That was really good. After a while I put the condom on and proceeded to fuck her brains out with her high heels and her uniform still on. Exactly like living out one of those clips on PornHub. She claims that she came, and I don't care to investigate further than that. At the end I shot my load in the missionary position. It's one of those lays that feel like it's the best I've ever had while I'm in the middle of it. There must be some kind of mental bias because it happens to me quite often.
In summary, I highly recommend her: Mae at Spanky's, ask the Mamasan for Number 6. These girls like to make movies in their heads, so if you're into uniforms, do ask her to put one on as a special request, it brings out the best in her.
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Hi friends,
I am very active on Indian mostly Delhi forum and have been to Thailand 4 times before. This time I will be on a business trip from 22nd to 25th would highly appreciate if seniors can help me with some gud contacts of independents, who are cheap on pocket but for LT. My favorite parlor has been ez but would appreciate some help here as well.
Waiting for some good PM's.
Hi friends,
I am very active on Indian mostly Delhi forum and have been to Thailand 4 times before. This time I will be on a business trip from 22nd to 25th would highly appreciate if seniors can help me with some gud contacts of independents, who are cheap on pocket but for LT. My favorite parlor has been ez but would appreciate some help here as well.
Waiting for some good PM's.Why would a good WG be cheap? You want cheap try Chinatown. You won't be able to afford the good ones I have.
Lord Necros
05-16-14, 15:39
Hi friends,
I am very active on Indian mostly Delhi forum and have been to Thailand 4 times before. This time I will be on a business trip from 22nd to 25th would highly appreciate if seniors can help me with some gud contacts of independents, who are cheap on pocket but for LT. My favorite parlor has been ez but would appreciate some help here as well.
Waiting for some good PM's.What's your budget anyway? "cheap" means different things to different people.
Hi friends,
I am very active on Indian mostly Delhi forum and have been to Thailand 4 times before. This time I will be on a business trip from 22nd to 25th would highly appreciate if seniors can help me with some gud contacts of independents, who are cheap on pocket but for LT. My favorite parlor has been ez but would appreciate some help here as well.
Waiting for some good PM's.You know Thailand and you know the forum. So what's your problem? We can't read your mind. Try to ask specific questions if you want good answers. I don't do cheap, myself.
Wolvenvacht
05-16-14, 20:08
I am disappointed in the prices you have shared, while not out of my budget, I had hoped it would be better.If you are patient and carefully look around and negotiate strongly, you may get a better price. But if you want to bang 3 to 5 girls a day, you won't have the time to do that. Also IMHO, pushing the price really down leads to a rushed service. In some way, you get what you pay for. It s the Law of Karma, which is very strong in Thailand.
You do not seem to like freelancers. Why? From the recent youtube videos of Nana Plaza and Walking Street I saw a lot of very acceptable freelancers.Personal feeling. I'm a big fan of agogo clubs where the girls dance nude. It allows me to feast my eyes and choose wisely when I ask the girl to sit with me and offer her a ladydrink. But then again at my age, one girls for LT every 2 or 3 days is all I need. I think the chances of getting a "good" freelancer are too low.
Also, what are Soi 6 girls?Those are the girls that work in the bars of Soi 6 in Pattaya. Google "soi 6 Pattaya" and you will see. Set yourself a challenge: start at the Beach Road end of Soi 6 and sequentially fuck one girl of each bar (without skipping any bar) and see how far you get!
Western787
05-16-14, 20:46
Google "soi 6 Pattaya" and you will see. Google? Never heard of it. What is that? Like something you have for breakfast?
Hi,
Second post on this site.
Visitng BKK.
1. I once had gone to rajah hotel and chose an absolutely gorgeous girl, I was not interested in FS just some time and a BJ.
We did cuddle and chat and ended with a HJ, (very expensive HJ turns out), she refused BJ.
Although she was interested in only FS one pop, on top of it kept telling me how big I was and that it may hurt. Bit of a turn off.
Any idea if currently they still refuse.
Any other place where one can enjoy a Russian besides russia..
2. I did go to one of the arab bars with gorgeous women sitting, when asked to dance by some men they just danced and they'd throw money, the bar manager did come and ask if I was interested but I had no clue what was being offered in these places.
This was a bar on 2nd floor if your are walking towards Grace Hotel.
What's up with these chicks they are drop dead gorgeous.
I will attempt to get a room at either the Nana Hotel, Dynasty, Majestic Suites or the CheQinn. I am hoping I can get a better rate showing up than booking online. Since it will be around 2am, does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do for the few hours till the morning, so I won't have to pay a whole night stay at a hotel? I will have a small backpack and a small rolling bag. I would like to lock these up somewhere safe and go to a late night club till morning or are there any short stay hotels that will let me sleep for 3 or 4 hours for 300bht in that area as it seems to be in the middle of the action? Madness. Don't do this. Book a hotel and give yourself a good night's sleep. It will pay massive dividends later that week. And 'morning' in BKK is not 7am. Not a lot happens before 10am, 11am.
I will be in Thailand for 10 days and my goal is to do 30 to 50 girls. There is a hell of a difference... If counting girls is your thing then 30 is possible. I usually aim for 3 shags a day so fair enough. With youth and stamina then more is possible, but don't forget you have to also eat, drink and sleep... Take out 10 hours for those things then you have 14 hours left. Under 3 hours per girl. Unless you are planning to work your way through a bar it sounds difficult to me.
My plan is to average 1300bht per girl short stay (300 is for bar fine or tip if she is good). Don't be fooled by headline prices. In Soi 6 the prices are about 300 bht for room and 700 - 1000 bht per girl. But you will end up buying a drink or two and your bill will be 1500+ bht. Go to a beer bar and you will pay more. Go to Beach road and you will pay less but you won't find 50 girls to your taste there.
My kink is I like the girl to put on some velcro handcuffs behind her back. These cuffs come apart very easily and I have done it in other parts of the world. Will this be a problem in Thialand? As I have gotten older, it takes me longer to cum. Having sex for 30 to 60 straight minutes is not uncommon for me so I tend to wear out the girls. The handcuffs help. Girls in Thailand are fairly conservative and you will have great difficulty in explaining what it is you want to do. Not impossible, but just very tricky IMHO. Good luck.
I also plan on getting some tennis lessons between girls. I am an advanced player as I was on the satellite circuit in my 20s. I hear lesson are cheap (300bht for the assistant pro). I doubt they can teach me anything, but it will be good exercise to hit with someone good.We have already established that you will barely have time to change into your tennis gear before you have to start looking for girl #3, or #4, or #5... But you will not be able to play tennis. It is too hot. Trust me on this, as someone who does massive amounts of exercise in temperate climates. After 10 minutes in the heat and humidity you will have to stop. OK, don't believe me? Go for it...
Is it correct a bus to Pattaya is about 100bht and takes 2 hrs and a taxi 600bht but only an hour? What about a tok tok? Do they go that far and how much will it cost? I think it would be a blast seeing the countryside in a tok tok or is that a bad idea?I think a bus from BKK to Pattaya is about 300 bht, but will take way more than 2 hours. A taxi will set you back at least 1200 bht depending on your bargaining skills and will take best part of 2 hours depending on traffic. The road from BKK to Pattaya is a 6-lane motorway and it would not 'be a blast seeing the countryside' from a 3-wheel tuc-tuc. It would be a hellish, expensive and life-threatening experience. Not that a tuc-tuc driver would ever go that far.
I want to stock up on some antibiotics to take home. Can I easily purchase them?Yes, but why?
I'm 42, 6'2" (188cm).195lbs (88. 5kg)Trust me on the tennis. No matter how fit you think you are...
A bus costs 124 baht and goes direct, so it's not that much slower than a taxi. It took me two and a half hours recently but can take less time if you're lucky with traffic.You sound better informed on bus fares than me so I stand corrected. But, and I don't want to restart an argument from year or so back, the hotel door-to-hotel door time for a bus is probably about 4 hours, while for a taxi it is about 2 hours maximum. Fine if you enjoy the local experience but otherwise a taxi is great value.
hi friends,
i am very active on indian mostly delhi forum and have been to thailand 4 times before. this time i will be on a business trip from 22nd to 25th would highly appreciate if seniors can help me with some gud contacts of independents, who are cheap on pocket but for lt. my favorite parlor has been ez but would appreciate some help here as well.
waiting for some good pm's.
just write back
i know loads about bkk so if you want more info on thailand just pm me. i have 2 huge compilation of docs waiting 100 pages + but worth it. personal experiences. i know all the dos and dont's.sounds like you should be advising us.
but seriously, you know thailand is not like india... there is no shortage of freelancers, but whether they meet your definition of cheap, i don't know. most of us here would shudder to think that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel for cheap lt.
Lord Necros
05-16-14, 22:09
You sound better informed on bus fares than me so I stand corrected. But, and I don't want to restart an argument from year or so back, the hotel door-to-hotel door time for a bus is probably about 4 hours, while for a taxi it is about 2 hours maximum. Fine if you enjoy the local experience but otherwise a taxi is great value.The bus from Ekkamai or from the airport should take around 2.5 hours. If I remember correctly, the cost is 180 B.
There is another bus service which picks you up from your hotel. That will take around 4 hours.
Make sure you get on the Express Bus...I got on a bus one time that was cheaper.thought I was getting a good deal...it stopped a million freaking times on the way..took like 6 hours...I never made that mistake again...wasted like 4 hours but hey at least I save $4.
The bus from Ekkamai or from the airport should take around 2.5 hours. If I remember correctly, the cost is 180 B.
There is another bus service which picks you up from your hotel. That will take around 4 hours.
I also plan on getting some tennis lessons between girls. I am an advanced player as I was on the satellite circuit in my 20s. I hear lesson are cheap (300bht for the assistant pro). I doubt they can teach me anything, but it will be good exercise to hit with someone good.Yeah...your probably not going to enjoy that experience...there is a "Tennis Academy" near the Big see on Rama 4...but its for children, expats mostly, a few affluent Thai's but all children. They use to rent a court to myself and a friend when I lived there several years ago, so we could pretend we were playing tennis.but there "Tennis Pro's" weren't as good as us...and we were both terrible. I doubt you are going to find many people to play tennis with in Bangkok, that have any type of skill at all. There are other tennis courts around the city but it's the one closest to the Nana area, and the only one I know of that has a "tennis pro"also it is semi indoors and semi air conditioned...because as someone else mentioned...you are not going to want to play tennis outside in BKK in May.
Lord Necros
05-17-14, 05:41
Make sure you get on the Express Bus...I got on a bus one time that was cheaper.thought I was getting a good deal...it stopped a million freaking times on the way..took like 6 hours...I never made that mistake again...wasted like 4 hours but hey at least I save $4.The important things in life, my friend. The important things in life. Now you just need to do it 30 more times and you will save enough for an LT.
Hi bro,
As I mentioned I have been to Thailand for 4 times before mostly I have been to mix and picked up chicks worth 5 k or 8 k bhat Russians or Uzbeks or turks. This time I want something around 4 k - 6 k max for all nighter. Don't want to over spend. Also guide me to some good massage parlor EZ I will visit for sure any other do let me know.
Thanks
Why would a good WG be cheap? You want cheap try Chinatown. You won't be able to afford the good ones I have.
Cheap means max 6 k bhatt.
Whats your budget anyway? "cheap" means different things to different people.
bro,
i have shared my 100 + pages with people and one of my friend is in bkk my info is reliable but the thing is i made those documents 4 years ago if you share your email via pm i would be happy to send you what i have. its just a collection of information from different forums. i have been hitting mix in my last 3 visits and getting amazing girls from there i am not a gogo person but i have a thing for gud looking girls, a nice face and a slim body really turns me on. last time i took a girl you can say mrs. bo from ez who aint working there any more she was like heaven to me amazing service. she aint working there any more, i took a turk from mix and she was a bomb we were 5 friends together and it was my bachelor she was the best thing of the entire trip she danced and all did entertain us a lot and then was great in bed as well. i am there for 3 days i want to have a nice girl for a night imay hit mix again but if seniors here can help me with something it will be great i am also open to meet fellow isgns for a quick snack or even dinner.
sounds like you should be advising us.
but seriously, you know thailand is not like india... there is no shortage of freelancers, but whether they meet your definition of cheap, i don't know. most of us here would shudder to think that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel for cheap lt.just write back.
i know loads about bkk so if you want more info on thailand just pm me. i have 2 huge compilation of docs waiting 100 pages + but worth it. personal experiences. i know all the dos and don't's.
How is soi cowboy these days. I'll be staying at the hotel just across the road from the entrance. Will this work out good? Please fill be in with some details about the area. I've tried NANA but not this.
Thanks in advance.
Crocodilexp
05-17-14, 11:16
IMHO, pushing the price really down leads to a rushed service. In some way, you get what you pay for.In my many years of mongering, I never found this is the case. If a girl won't perform well for 1000 baht, she won't do a much better job at 3000 baht. If she is intent on providing minimal service, more money won't help, quite the contrary, it'll signal you're an easy mug, and she can get away with doing *less*.
The factor which does occasionally lead to rushed service is bad chemistry -- the girl being uncomfortable and having a bad feeling about you. If you can establish some rapport and ask for a low but non-insulting price nicely, without making the girl feel bad, service will be just fine. After all, she is always free to refuse. Generally, I don't bargain, just state the price around the going rate (lowball). If she's unwilling, maybe raise it by some *nominal* amount +200 baht) if her vibe is good, otherwise just move on.
I do, however, give good tips for good service -- that should be the way to get paid more, not dickering in advance.
Wolvenvacht
05-17-14, 13:13
"You get what you pay for".
In my many years of mongering, I never found this is the case. If a girl won't perform well for 1000 baht, she won't do a much better job at 3000 baht. If she is intent on providing minimal service, more money won't help, quite the contrary, it'll signal you're an easy mug, and she can get away with doing *less*.Indeed it only works downwards. A girl that usually goes for 2000 baht will not be a happy puppy when she is now going for 1500 baht, but her service will not improve beyond what she normally does if you give her 3000 baht.
The factor which does occasionally lead to rushed service is bad chemistry -- the girl being uncomfortable and having a bad feeling about you. If you can establish some rapport and ask for a low but non-insulting price nicely, without making the girl feel bad, service will be just fine. After all, she is always free to refuse. Generally, I don't bargain, just state the price around the going rate (lowball). If she's unwilling, maybe raise it by some *nominal* amount +200 baht) if her vibe is good, otherwise just move on.Entirely my idea too!
I do, however, give good tips for good service -- that should be the way to get paid more, not dickering in advance.I think tips will only work if your intention is to do a repeat performance. I don't believe the hope of getting an extra tip for good service will transfer to the next monger. Thailand does not have a "tipping culture". The service level is what it is, it will not improve hoping to get a tip. After all, how can the girl know you will tip her if she goes that extra mile? Telling her beforehand she gets a little extra "if you can make me smile" is more effective, IMHO.
Mind you, I do tip most of the girls if they performed well, if only to see them smile at me when saying goodbye.
Lord Necros
05-17-14, 13:46
How is soi cowboy these days. I'll be staying at the hotel just across the road from the entrance. Will this work out good? Please fill be in with some details about the area. I've tried NANA but not this.
Thanks in advance.I think as far as dance bars go, SC is supposedly better than NEP nowadays.
AssLover945
05-17-14, 14:26
Hi friends,
I am very active on Indian mostly Delhi forum and have been to Thailand 4 times before. This time I will be on a business trip from 22nd to 25th would highly appreciate if seniors can help me with some gud contacts of independents, who are cheap on pocket but for LT. My favorite parlor has been ez but would appreciate some help here as well.
Waiting for some good PM's.Girls not attached to a shop / parlour can be dangerous. Like they may rob you or may have some diseases. So advice to be careful. If you already aware of Bangkok scene, I will suggest you read this forum a bit and have some fun at the usual places like Tulip. But since you asked for LT, these oilies also do provide for LT but would be around 3 K Bahts for a night and she will leave at 6 am. You can try agogos for LT, but better be very very clear about the services you demand and DO NOT pay in advance other than the bar fee. Agogos are more arbitrary than oilies, so while they are very good for the eyes and a few beers, I never take them LT, I always go for ST, in some ST hotel. So remember the cost will be like Drinks + Barfine + ST hotel fine + services fees.
I think as far as dance bars go, SC is supposedly better than NEP nowadays.Any of the bar racial like Rainbows? And are their any particulate one which stand out interms of young girls?
Girls not attached to a shop / parlour can be dangerous. Like they may rob you or may have some diseases.OK, but let's not overstate this. I have NEVER had any problems such as theft with any of the girls I have met. In general I find girls in Thailand to be fun, honest and trusting. And I lock my valuables in the safe.
Sexually transmitted diseases are no respecter of employment status, although I agree that some establishments may require monthly testing. So you know the girls are OK that day... Play safe and you'll be fine.
Paul Kausch
05-17-14, 18:21
In my many years of mongering, I never found this is the case. If a girl won't perform well for 1000 baht, she won't do a much better job at 3000 baht.
I do, however, give good tips for good service -- that should be the way to get paid more, not dickering in advance.
Mind you, I do tip most of the girls if they performed well, if only to see them smile at me when saying goodbye.Sir Lancelot has a good technique that seems to work for him. If the lady's opening offer is too high he counters with a lower offer and the promise a good tip if she, "Makes him smile." Seems to work for him. Just read his most recent diary. The ladies accept his offer, make him smile and get a nice tip so the amount they originally asked for ends up in their pocket.
Bro,
I have shared my 100 + pages with people and one of my friend is in BKK my info is reliable but the thing is I made those documents 4 years ago if you share your email via Pm I would be happy to send you what I have. Its just a collection of information from different forums. I have been hitting mix in my last 3 visits and getting amazing girls from there I am not a gogo person but I have a thing for gud looking girls, a nice face and a slim body really turns me on. Last time I took a girl you can say Mrs. Bo from ez who aint working there any more she was like heaven to me amazing service. She aint working there any more, I took a turk from Mix and she was a bomb we were 5 friends together and it was my bachelor she was the best thing of the entire trip she danced and all did entertain us a lot and then was great in bed as well. I am there for 3 days I want to have a nice girl for a night imay hit mix again but if seniors here can help me with something It will be great I am also open to meet fellow isgns for a quick snack or even dinner.
Just write back.
I know loads about BKK so if you want more info on Thailand just PM me. I have 2 huge compilation of docs waiting 100 pages + but worth it. Personal experiences. I know all the dos and don't's.Ok.
Does not matter that High price is better. 75 % better service come from cheaper Girls means sometime you just pay 50% mor for the face look.
Go to grace hotel Sukhumvit Road. 1- there is a disco there girls cheaper 2 there is a coffee shop also which have lots of Uzb, Rusky.
3-Around the hotel and in front also you will have some nice cheaper Girls.
Enjoy
Member #4387
05-17-14, 21:40
Girls not attached to a shop / parlour can be dangerous. Like they may rob you or may have some diseases.I ONLY do girls not attached to the shop / parlour / bars / gogo as I simply not like the setup. I have ofcourse lost counts after globaly fucking FL's for 15/16 years now. They come in thousands by now and never did I have any trouble with unattached girls. And the socalled attached girls and monthly std's testing are easy frauded so I would not relay to much on those results.
I will add I only do FL's (mostly semi pro with normal dayjobs)"attached" to certain nightclubs with very few expectations and stay clear of the low FL market as streetwalkers. It is an all in friendly and fun game to play. Nothing to worry about.
Sir Lancelot has a good technique that seems to work for him. If the lady's opening offer is too high he counters with a lower offer and the promise a good tip Bargaining with a hooker technique to get it for less cost in other words.
Always give them what they ask, they ought to receive what they feel they're worth.
After that's been established, you can let her know what you'd like. Agree, and everybody's happy before things get underway.
Bargaining with a hooker technique to get it for less cost in other words.
Always give them what they ask, they ought to receive what they feel they're worth.
After that's been established, you can let her know what you'd like. Agree, and everybody's happy before things get underway.In other words, you're one of the suckers. But at least you're happy, and that's what counts, right?
Never see or hear of any racial thing going on in Soi Cowboy. For girls (there is reason to believe some are to young) you go to Crazy House.
Crazy House is not on Soi Cowboy it self but on Soi 23 (just walk to soi 23 and go right after passing Restaurant Old Dutch, you will see it right at the corner).
Any of the bar racial like Rainbows? And are their any particulate one which stand out interms of young girls?
In other words, you're one of the suckers. But at least you're happy, and that's what counts, right?These are invariably the kinds of discussions that go nowhere as there's no consensus. And why would there be- if your a no money guy who can only bargain with hookers, then nothing in common with you.
It has been a long time since I posted here. I have been reading the reports but am a little confused. What is a fair price in BKK for a LT. I normally visit the same bar across the road from Annies Soapy and think I have been paying way too much for a LT.
I will be in BKK next week for 3 days and am limited on funds this trip.
Thanks.
Ruf.
Wolvenvacht
05-18-14, 08:20
Bargaining with a hooker technique to get it for less cost in other words.That is what is generally understood by the word "bargaining".
Always give them what they ask, they ought to receive what they feel they're worth.I hope you will become my boss and you will pay me what I feel I'm worth.
After that's been established, you can let her know what you'd like. Agree, and everybody's happy before things get underway.The world upside down! So you first agree on the price before you negotiate on the contents of the package?
Bargaining with a hooker technique to get it for less cost in other words.
Always give them what they ask, they ought to receive what they feel they're worth.
After that's been established, you can let her know what you'd like. Agree, and everybody's happy before things get underway.Seriously? Do you pay retail for cars and list price for houses?
Hi,
Am a complete noob at this, spent most of my times in MPs.
How does ST work in Soi or nana.
Not looking for FS but Oral and the experience.
Can I take her to rooms like I saw above Nana or someplace else.
Any links or a answer would appreciate it.
Wolvenvacht
05-18-14, 13:17
Bargaining with a hooker technique to get it for less cost in other words.
Always give them what they ask, they ought to receive what they feel they're worth.
After that's been established, you can let her know what you'd like. Agree, and everybody's happy before things get underway.Seriously? Do you pay retail for cars and list price for houses?It's worse, he pays retail for a second (or far more) hand car.
It's worse, he pays retail for a second (or far more) hand car.Second hand. More like a few hundred / thousand hands.
What is a monger looking for?
Are they looking for a "trophy" girl to walk around and show off and suffer lousy sex in the bedroom?
Are they looking for an older girl, not an 8 or a 9 or a 10, but a decent 7 who will give you wonderful sex in the bedroom?
After being in Thailand well over 20 years I can assure you that some of the 6's and 7's are star performers in the bedroom, and most of the 9's and 10's are lousy in the bed.
The 9's and 10's will not negotiate in general. They fix high price for poor service (no kissing, minimal kissing, starfish) - its an Asian thing, its not about enjoying the sex its more about having fucked a pretty girl.
The 6's and 7's generally are happy to negotiate. They go more for service that will bring you back for more and more as its so good. You just want to do it again with them.
Unless you are Asian and just want to add notches to the bed post for pretty girls fucked. Avoid the ones who will not negotiate. If you want a trophy to walk around town with on your arm. You are quite a shallow person.
If you want good sex. Then there are ways to ensure you get your bang for your buck.
Doctor, Doctor?
I understand that many veteran mongers take regular shots, vitamins and pills to stay extra safe.
I know some take the Hepatitis shots but was wondering what other pills / vitamins go with such precautional measures?
Any idea?
Thanks.
Paul Kausch
05-18-14, 17:06
Doctor, Doctor?
I understand that many veteran mongers take regular shots, vitamins and pills to stay extra safe.
I know some take the Hepatitis shots but was wondering what other pills / vitamins go with such precautional measures?
Any idea?
Thanks.There's a plethora of information available on the internet. Here's a good place to start.
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/list
Lord Necros
05-18-14, 17:57
Hi,
Am a complete noob at this, spent most of my times in MPs.
How does ST work in Soi or nana.
Not looking for FS but Oral and the experience.
Can I take her to rooms like I saw above Nana or someplace else.
Any links or a answer would appreciate it.You sound like the perfect guy for BJ Bars.
http://rockitreports.com/blowjob-bars-around-the-world-where-they-are-how-they-work/
Been to those.
As they say the experience that you crave for is not just the "boom-boom" its the whole experience from the point of browsing, selecting, expecting etc.
I did see last time an old guy taking a young thing paying a guy some money and going upstrairs at the top floor at entrance of nana, I don't want to go to my hotel.
Just thought browse some bars and if I like a girl can take her. I agree it will be expensive as comparred to what you suggested but I just don't know how to go about it.
Do I negotiate there, will she take me to a place, where do I pay the bar fine etc etc. Any link that has given step by step like Soi / Nana for dummies.
You sound like the perfect guy for BJ Bars.
http://rockitreports.com/blowjob-bars-around-the-world-where-they-are-how-they-work/
Wolvenvacht
05-18-14, 19:27
Doctor, Doctor?
I understand that many veteran mongers take regular shots, vitamins and pills to stay extra safe.
I know some take the Hepatitis shots but was wondering what other pills / vitamins go with such precautional measures?
Any idea?
Thanks.The usual vaccinations (Tetanus, Hep A & be, ...) are sufficient.
If you hope that other "regular shots, vitamins and pills" will protect you against STDs, then you are quite mistaken.
The only hope in that direction are certain retroviral pills that seems to give a protection against HIV, although it is too early to tell how big this protection will be.
I think we are in the same boat. I think Girls who are attched to a shop are more vulnerable to infections than those who are not picking up girls who have high cost attached to them IMHO are the ones who have less sex than the ones attached with an establishment. When some1 can get a girl for 1.5 k LT why bother paying 4 to 5 k LT. I believe these freelancers (not all) go for only night sessions which can be much lesses to girls from a parlor. Been to mix seen girls leaving without a customer if the price is not right. Thats the time I come in and get a 9/10 chick for much lesser price say 4 k LT. Girls have stayed till 12 mostly and one stayed till evening.
For me chemistry is very important if I am not comfortable its waste to have a session as well. Sadly this time I am on a business trip with less amt of time so wanted to try something gud and not heavy on pocket.
I am still all ears if you guys want to suggest me something.
I ONLY do girls not attached to the shop / parlour / bars / gogo as I simply not like the setup. I have ofcourse lost counts after globaly fucking FL's for 15/16 years now. They come in thousands by now and never did I have any trouble with unattached girls. And the socalled attached girls and monthly std's testing are easy frauded so I would not relay to much on those results.
I will add I only do FL's (mostly semi pro with normal dayjobs)"attached" to certain nightclubs with very few expectations and stay clear of the low FL market as streetwalkers. It is an all in friendly and fun game to play. Nothing to worry about.
The only hope in that direction are certain retroviral pills that seems to give a protection against HIV, although it is too early to tell how big this protection will be."The Thai HIV vaccine efficacy trial, known as RV144, tested the "prime-boost" combination of two vaccines: ALVAC® HIV vaccine (the prime) and AIDSVAX® be / E vaccine (the boost). The vaccine combination was based on HIV strains that commonly circulate in Thailand.
The trial demonstrated that the vaccine regimen was safe and modestly effective in preventing HIV infection. The results show that the prime-boost combination lowered the rate of HIV infection by 31.2 percent compared to placebo based on the modified intent-to-treat (mITT) population (n=51 vs. And=74, respectively; p=0.04).
This study results, announced by the Army in 2009, showed that a preventive HIV vaccine is possible and is providing scientific direction to help guide future vaccine development and testing. Since then, MHRP researchers—in collaboration with partners worldwide—have made substantive progress in understanding what it will take to develop a more efficacious HIV vaccine.".
AlwaysBusiness
05-18-14, 22:41
Dear friends,
I just want to say thank you for sharing all your experience in LOS so that others could get some good intel before their adventure.
I have followed lots of posts here and it has always been a pleasure.
I do travel to Thailand 4-5 times yearly for approx 10 days and stay usually in BKK with 2-3 days of leisure in Pattaya. I will share my future adventures with all of you.
Thanks!
Traveler1234
05-19-14, 00:45
"The Thai HIV vaccine efficacy trial, known as RV144, tested the "prime-boost" combination of two vaccines: ALVAC HIV vaccine (the prime) and AIDSVAX be / E vaccine (the boost). The vaccine combination was based on HIV strains that commonly circulate in Thailand.
Actually this was just announced by US CDC as preventive HIV medication: http://www.truvada.com/.
I think it is unlikely to find a better rate at the hotel in the middle of the night as most probable the manager with the authority to negotiate the rate will not be available. Do you really want to walk Sukhumvit road to find a cheap hotel? Tired and jet-lagged as you will be? With your luggage on the uneven pavement of Bangkok? Book yourself a hotel on booking (dot) com (much better site than Agoda and they include all taxes with no hidden extras) so you can drop your bags, shower and join the action without delay. Or much better get some rest so you are fit for the next day.Meneer Wolvenvacht knows whereof he speaks. It's absolute lunacy to be wandering around Bangkok in the middle of the night looking for a hotel room, especially if you have never visited before. I understand you're on a budget and trying to avoid paying for the first night lodging because it's really only a few hours. But when you travel long distances those arrivals in the wee hours can't be helped. If you're trying to save money, get online and book the cheapest hotel you can find for the first night only. Guarantee the reservation with a credit card, which means the hotel will bill your card at 6:00 pm Local time on the day of the reservation. That way, when you stumble in at three or four in the morning you'll be confident of having a place to stay. If you're bound and determined to try and negotiate a walk-up rate you can do that the next day after a few hours of sleep. You won't do better walking up than booking online, however. Finally, be very careful when you are booking your first night to calculate the time change. It can be confusing when you fly across the international date line, so make sure you get it right.
Bunky.
Actually this was just announced by US CDC as preventive HIV medication: http://www.truvada.com/.Very interesting Traveler...I wouldn't take it because of the side effects, nice to know their is an option if you are really paranoid. They are making improvements by leaps and bounds in HIV / AIDS research and hopefully one day, it'll just be one of those standard things we get vaccinated against.
Meneer Wolvenvacht knows whereof he speaks. It's absolute lunacy to be wandering around Bangkok in the middle of the night looking for a hotel room, especially if you have never visited before. I understand you're on a budget and trying to avoid paying for the first night lodging because it's really only a few hours. But when you travel long distances those arrivals in the wee hours can't be helped. If you're trying to save money, get online and book the cheapest hotel you can find for the first night only. Guarantee the reservation with a credit card, which means the hotel will bill your card at 6:00 pm Local time on the day of the reservation. That way, when you stumble in at three or four in the morning you'll be confident of having a place to stay. If you're bound and determined to try and negotiate a walk-up rate you can do that the next day after a few hours of sleep. You won't do better walking up than booking online, however. Finally, be very careful when you are booking your first night to calculate the time change. It can be confusing when you fly across the international date line, so make sure you get it right.
Bunky.Seriously...listen to them..its assinine to walk up and down Sukhumvit trying to haggle to save a few baht...book online, save the trouble and enjoy Thailand.
Paul Kausch
05-20-14, 00:42
We shouldn't get too excited about the martial law order. There is a far more important controversy, the woman who was just named Miss Universe Thailand. Apparently she was a surprising and controversial winner; and judging by her photos it is clear why. Of course this is nothing a daily dose of yaba won't fix.
We shouldn't get too excited about the martial law order. There is a far more important controversy, the woman who was just named Miss Universe Thailand. Apparently she was a surprising and controversial winner; and judging by her photos it is clear why. Of course this is nothing a daily dose of yaba won't fix.OMG I sincerely hope you are right. I have an upcoming trip to the Big Mango this summer that I am hoping and praying to the mongering gods that will only be minimally affected by politics. Part of my trip overlaps with the 20 July election date (I fly out on Sunday the 20th) so I was thinking it might be a good sign that they were potentially not going to have the election. But martial law? This won't apply to soi4 or NEP or the soapies and oilies, right?
Maverick010
05-20-14, 02:14
We shouldn't get too excited about the martial law order. There is a far more important controversy, the woman who was just named Miss Universe Thailand. Apparently she was a surprising and controversial winner; and judging by her photos it is clear why. Of course this is nothing a daily dose of yaba won't fix.I just booked my trip to Bangkok. Very concerned about this martial law situation. I am coming there on June 27 and plan to leave July 6th. Anyone in Bangkok / Pattaya these days. How is the mongering scene affected. PLease advise if I should cancel.
Paul Kausch
05-20-14, 05:55
OMG I sincerely hope you are right. I have an upcoming trip to the Big Mango this summer that I am hoping and praying to the mongering gods that will only be minimally affected by politics. Part of my trip overlaps with the 20 July election date (I fly out on Sunday the 20th) so I was thinking it might be a good sign that they were potentially not going to have the election. But martial law? This won't apply to soi4 or NEP or the soapies and oilies, right?There will not be on election on 20 July. The Election Commission has announced the date has been moved back. Who knows how far back. I'll be in town from early June to the beginning of July. I'm not changing my travel plans; and I'm not worried about my safety. Stay away from the protests. Don't do anything stupid like walking around wearing a yellow or red t-shirt. Lower Sukhumvit and the areas where the oilies are located will probably be safe. But what the hell do I know?
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Don't do anything stupid like walking around wearing a yellow or red t-shirt. Lower Sukhumvit and the areas where the oilies are located will probably be safe. But what the hell do I know?Don't worry, Gen. Prayuth just announced that mongers will be safe. There will be tanks and soldiers patrolling at Bangkok's most important roads such as Sukhumvit Soi 4, Sukhumvit Soi 23, Sukhumvit Soi 33, Sukhumvit Soi 22, Sukhumvit Soi 24, Sukhumvit Soi 24/1 and Sukhumvit Soi 26.
Giotto
AirlineCrew
05-20-14, 09:08
DAY ONE.
Just a two day layover so no time to waste.
I got to the hotel, it's a new one for me, never been there before. It's at the river so it's far from all the action. The hotel looks great though but because of the location I would never stay there myself.
I do the whole switch rooms again, since I'm directly next to a coworker. Can't have that so I wait until everyone leaves and I switch rooms. I also ask the lady behind the counter if it's ok to bring back a girl tonight. She seems completely shocked by my question. Don't know if it's because I'm still in uniform or because it's unusual to hear this question but she utters a "yes sir" and I'm satisfied.
I want to sleep but somehow can't so I decide to go out exchange some money and head over to Nataree. The hotel offers a boat service to the nearest sky train station and from there on I go to Siam. I walk around central world where in one of the side alley's there is a big Super rich exchange that apparently offers the best rates in BKK. It's not long before I walk out with a lot of bath.
So it's back to the skytrain, damn it's hot outside. Change at Asok for the MRT. I look over to Soi Cowboy which is very quiet at this time but I plan to go there tonight. I was chatting with some girl on TF who works at a booth near Asok station. In the end when I told her I was married she did not want to meet me anymore and for a moment I'm thinking to give her a scare by showing up but I decide against it hehehe.
Get off the mrt and walk up to Nataree, many guys trying to get me to go to some other place for a massage but I'm set on Nataree. It's been a year since I was there for the first time and had a great session. I'm far from an experienced monger cause I get the jitters when I walk up. In a minute 50+ cute young girls will be looking at me. I'm excited but also very nervous at the same time. I walk in and expect a girl to welcome me right away but there is no one.
Only thing I see is empty seats. For a moment I'm at a loss. I walk further inside and I see 6 or so girls sitting against a wall and a papasan that I don't know comes to me. I ask if it's really busy and all girls are upstairs with clients? He says: No sir, today is Buddha day. Jees great timing on my part. In total there are about 10 girls inside. Two girls sit by themselves, these are the "virgins" you need to pay 8000 baht for them. No thanks.
So he walks me back to the other 6 girls and points one out to me, she is cute and only giggles. She is not the cutest though but the cutest girl has so much white painted on her face that I just can't get myself to take her up. I don't feel like fucking a clown. This white skin obsession the thai have is truly ridiculous. I ask the papasan that I want 2 shots in 90 minutes. Yes yes he says but 90 minutes max! Yeah that's fine by me so I pay 2600 and it's up to the room. Upstairs I see two japs with very cute girls going down. Damn I wish I had waited for just a few minutes more.
The girls name I forgot, something like naang, she is 18 and does not speak a word of English. Sigh Just my luck. She washes me in the bathtub and it's nice but the girl turns out to be a big mistake. Can't really fault her for not speaking English but also no kissing no BBBJ and no two shots! I said that papasan told me two shots were ok. The only thing she says is: Why? I tell her because that's what I agreed with papasan. She finally agrees with one handjob and later a fuck. She starts to fumble a bit with my dick but it's not turning me on. She is trying to joke around with me being so tall and have a big nose. Yeah yeah, normally I'm joking around too but right now I'm annoyed by her. I flip her over cause it's not working for me. So I want to lick her and she says NO. I tell her to trust me and lick her anyway and she starts to relax, then the moaning begins. After she finishes I'm hard as a rock and don't feel like getting a HJ from her so I dom up and go inside. She starts to grind her hips against mine and I like that, doesn't take long before I cum. She is up and takes me to the shower. She washes me and she starts to get dressed. I say I still want my second shot! She just gives a BIG sigh and ask me Why?
At this moment I'm pretty much done with her too, I get dressed and don't tip her. I think she can tell that I'm not happy and does not push for one. Downstairs I walk up to the papasan and complain about it. He just says: yes yes just one shot. Asshole. Then the other papasan shows up from last year and I try my luck with him. He just smiles to me and says that he is sorry but thanks for coming. So it's back to Asok just after 45 minutes at Nataree.
I'm not going to give up on that place but it has one strike against it, what a difference compared to last year.
Back at Asok it's still too early to go to Cowboy so I decide to watch a movie at terminal 21. It's hard for me to stay awake during the movie but somehow I manage. It's after nine when I head to soi cowboy. For a moment I think aliens have come and obliterated soi cowboy, cause normally soi cowboy is one big ocean of neon lights but now it's one big black hole. I fear the worst and my fears come true, because of Buddha day everything is closed for tonight. Some guy tries to get me to go to some other place, I decline. Plan be was to check out Insanity club so I head over there but I fear the worst and sure enough it's also closed.
I don't really have a plan see, the last boat to the hotel will leave within the hour so I decide not to try NEP or Nana parking lot. I'm sure there will be FL around, but prices probably have skyrocketed because of more demand and less girls tonight.
I get the last boat just in time and go back to my room. I'm dead tired but still feel like going for a massage. One coworker told me there are a few massage shops in the area of the hotel.
At 10.30 pm I go inside Happy massage, basically because I like the young girl who asks me if I'm interested in a massage. Since it's close to midnight I can only do a 1 hour oil massage before they close. At 450 baht it's a nice price. Once inside there are a few more girls, two of them are cute too and they giggle a lot. Upstairs all the other rooms seem empty must be because its near closing time. I'm asked to shower which I do, it strikes me that there are no "pyjama's" on the massage table, which is good cause I don't like them anyway. Suddenly the girl comes in without knocking, she says: sorry, but still stays in the room and I swear she is checking out my junk. She motions me to lie on the table.
I'm on the table totally naked, she does not cover me up with a towel. Now I start to think that besides massages other things are on the menu too. Sure enough she is massaging my ass and she is between my legs too. Touching my junk from time to time. She is really good at giving a massage and I enjoy it a lot. She is not pushing anything and just finishes my back. Then asks me to turn over. My little friend is half up and I see her smile. She touches it and plays with it a bit. Looking at me and asking if I like it. She can probably see from the big grin on my face that I do. So I ask what she offers and she says: up to you. I tell her that I have a condom with me and if she is willing to go FS. She says: Oh you have condom? Then up to you. Hehehe. She asks for 2000 baht. I know it's a lot and it should not be over 1500 but I don't feel like haggling at this point.
Her name is OH, 25 years old from isaan big natural boobs and must have the darkest skin color I've ever seen on a thai girl. She quickly jumps into the shower and then I want her on the table. I start to DATY and she seems to enjoy it a lot. Then it's my turn, I dom up and fuck her in missionary. After I finish it's a quick shower and back on the table. She finishes the massage and does not rush it. We go far beyond the hour we agreed on. We talk a bit more. I ask her all kinds of things and it's all up to me. Hotel visit up to you, CIM up to you etc etc. I even ask her if the other girls also do this, I know it's not the nicest thing to ask if you just fucked a girl, but I want to know. She thinks about it and says yes all other girls offer these services too. It's against midnight when we go downstairs again. I have some tea and I'm the only client in the shop. I get to have a good look at the other girls that are there some are pretty cute. OH speaks some thai and the other girls all start to giggle and look at me. I can guess what she said to them LOL.
13.730063, 100.514927 copy this into google maps to see where happy massage is.
I pick something up from the 7-11 on the corner when a very cute girl comes in with a shirt that says magic hands. It's the name of a shop close to happy massage. Later I learn that one of my female coworkers went there for a massage and she was a bit uncomfortable because the girl had massaged her breasts for quite some time. Hehehe seems magic hands offers more than just massages too. In fact I think that all shops on that street offer more.
AirlineCrew
05-20-14, 09:09
DAY 2.
I woke up and had some breakfast at the hotel. I soon leave for the city by boat and skytrain to do some personal stuff. In the afternoon I decide to go to Snowwhite 2.
I walk in and there is a Ladyboy at the reception that speaks little English, not very handy if your clients are foreigners. But we get by. So I tell her that I want 2 hours and confirm all girls are A+.
I ask how many girls are there and she shows me. There are about 7 or 8 girls there and there is no doubt in my mind that I want to have Amy.
She now has pictures on the site:
http://snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html
She does look like the pics on the site, her skin is darker though and a little less smooth I guess. But she is truly pretty. Amy is 25 yrs old, very tiny girl. Speaks English very well because she used to work for an international company before she lost her job. She has been doing this job for only a week and of course hates it LOL. Says she had to numb her mind to be able to do this kind of work. Also she does not plan to do it for long, but I guess we will have to see LOL. Amy has one child but I still loved her tiny little body. Very small pointy boobs though. I ask her to please not go plastic with those, which surprised her cause she thought all men like big boobs. We are joking all the time at one point she leaves me alone to get her stuff and takes a while to get back. She asks if I was waiting for her a long time. I told her I've been waiting for her all my life. She gives a big smile and goes aaaaah then starts to give me a long DFK hahaha.
We shower together which is not easy for her since I'm close to 1.90 and she is just over 1.50. I can't really remember what happened it's kind of a blur. We kiss a lot and cuddle a lot. Talking and joking all the time. I'm having a blast. At one point she starts to give me a BBBJ. I ask if I should warn her if I'm about to finish. She winks at me and says it's ok to do CIM if I want. So I finish and give her a full load. Later when I'm up and ready again she is sucking me off and I ask if I can fuck her. Without even stopping the BJ she looks at me and points to her pussy and then her ass. I was planning to have some anal but I just say pussy cause I don't want to hurt her. She thanks me cause anal is difficult and painful for her because she is so tiny.
When we are finished I get her Line ID and phone number, she says she likes me a lot and can call her next time I'm in BKK. Even if she is not working at snowwhite anymore. I did not tell her about being married though and she talks about wanting to clip my butterfly wings hahaha.
Truthfully I think my time with Amy was one of the best I had in BKK, maybe even the best. She is by far the prettiest girl I've had in BKK and I could understand if someone falls for her at some point. Thank god I'm married hahaha.
Later that day I returned to happy massage for a two hour oil massage with OH again. I did not get a chance to choose a different girl though. It seems OH thinks that I'm her client now :-(.
She did massage everything again. Tried to get another FS out of me, but after my time with Amy she just not even comes close to get me excited for it. But being a dear that she is she did massage my junk for a while even after I told her I did not want any other service. Don't know what would have happened if I had finished though. OH did ask for a tip after the massage. I gave her 200 baht.
That concludes another trip to BKK, too bad about the Buddha day but I had a wonderful time with Amy and certainly will visit her again. I don't recommend to go to happy massage just for mongering, it's way of the beaten path and not worth it when there are so many other and better options in the city, but if you stay in that area it's nice to have some options that close to your hotel.
Also I did not see much of the riots, all the protesters had moved from Lumpini park and the only thing I saw was 2 military men posted outside Chit Lom station but were unarmed. But apparently much can change within a week now that they have declared martial law.
Cheers.
ALC.
Don't do anything stupid like walking around wearing a yellow or red t-shirt. Lower Sukhumvit and the areas where the oilies are located will probably be safe. But what the hell do I know?I hear what you say but I don't think a farang in a reddish or yellowish shirt, unless with a flag and / or in a protest mood or group, will be taken as a protester. Obviously if he mixes with a group, red with reds of yellow with yellow, it is a different story. Or a red shirted guy enters a yellow protester group, or the other way around.
I dint think any farang in a reddish or yellowish shirt going around will be taken in the wrong way.
Seriously...listen to them..its assinine to walk up and down Sukhumvit trying to haggle to save a few baht...book online, save the trouble and enjoy Thailand.I agree. A that stage he should stay in the airport till morning... Buy hey. Is that worth? Cut the holiday by one day if one can't afford that night such a tiny budget will also mean no unexpected incidentals will be allowed... Is that still a holiday! Or aback marathon?
Paul Kausch
05-20-14, 14:47
I dint think any farang in a reddish or yellowish shirt going around will be taken in the wrong way.Of course you're right. The important thing is to avoid getting curious and going around looking for some protesters.
El Frances
05-20-14, 21:50
We shouldn't get too excited about the martial law order. There is a far more important controversy, the woman who was just named Miss Universe Thailand. Apparently she was a surprising and controversial winner; and judging by her photos it is clear why. Of course this is nothing a daily dose of yaba won't fix.She also wrote in facebook about red shirts: "I'm so angry at these evil activists. They should all be executed." .
Paul Kausch
05-20-14, 22:59
She also wrote in facebook about red shirts: "I'm so angry at these evil activists. They should all be executed." .Well, it's obvious why she won. :rolleyes:
Hi,
Any other place where one can enjoy a Russian besides russia..
2. I did go to one of the arab bars with gorgeous women sitting, when asked to dance by some men they just danced and they'd throw money, the bar manager did come and ask if I was interested but I had no clue what was being offered in these places.
This was a bar on 2nd floor if your are walking towards Grace Hotel.
What's up with these chicks they are drop dead gorgeous.I have to say this is the first time I have ever heard the Russians, though in truth they are mainly from the ex-Soviet Muslim countries, described this way. The good ones go to Europe I think. I wish Thailand got beautiful ones. But nevertheless, try staying at the Omni on Soi 4. Loads of Russian girls stay there and I expect you can pick one up if you chat with them. Every now and then one will hit on me but for the most part the Arabs are their customer base in the Omni and elsewhere. Around 11 pm at night if you sit in the lobby you can witness the exodus as they go out to work the night all dressed to the tee's. My impression which could be totally wrong is the ones that stay at the Omni are a slightly higher class than the ones at the Rajah.
Flight arrived 2300, but I'm feeling good after 22 hrs, slept last 5 hours. I go down 3 or 4 levels and catche the last skytrain to Maakhan station 150 bht, then a taxi to Nana plaza 55 bht. It takes a little while to find my hotel I reserved w booking com. CheQinn hostel 300 for bed, 200 key deposit, 50 for small padlock for under bed storage drawer, nice place, nice counter lady, unfortunately picked wrong bed at first as the ac was blowing right on me.
I'm not tired so I store my bags and head out. Lots of people outside. After walking up and down the couple streets right by hotel nana, I spot a cutie, "Om" 8/10 face and body between the hoter and the McDonald's. Thin, young, cute, smallish tits the way I like them. We settle on 1000 bht and head for a st hotel 300 bht. BBBJ nice as she looked up at me, 4 or 5 positions ans she is moaning nicely and kissing my neck and body. She was nice and tight too. Left her 200 bht tip, total damage 1500 for a good hr screwing. 8/10 experience.
I walk around some more getting some icecream and bottled water. I am still wired and I spot another cutie 6.5/10 face 8/10 body Nam 30 yrs old but tight body and small. I like small girls as the are extra tight and I was right about her. A rather uninspired BBBJ but I made her do it for a long time then 4-5 positions. She was acting a little listless so I did her hard. It was still a great site to look down while doing her. 1000 bht damage 700 for her 300 room, 5/10 experience.
Walked around some more, almot bought a fake rolex watch for 500 bht but they didn't have the tool to resize it so I may try again tomorrow. While heading back to room I spot a 3rd girl, Pam 27,7/10 face and what looks like a 9/10 body but I am very wrong after she undresses. I now see there is a thing as being too thin. She also has a little pouch belly from probably childbirth. Anyway, we settled on 2 hrs with thai massage 700 bht as it is almost 0400. She is not very inspiring, but I make her blow me for 15 minutes after the massage and do her hard. She is complaining I am too bid so I offer to do her ass instead. She doesn't go for it. After a 30 minutes of hard screwing as this is my 3rd time tonight she says she cannot take anymore and offers to blow me till I cum. She better now but not good enough to make me cum, so I tell her to suck my ball while I whack off. I always like that. Total damage 1000 bht, 700 girl, 300 hotel, 6/10 experience as it was a good cum.
Some side observations, it is still pretty hot at night 85 f. Bangkok has a strange smell, something between rotting wood and slightly spoiled vegetables. Maybe it is just the heat. There are also a lot of ladyboys in the street, very aggressive, grabbing your package or trying to get your business. Some of them are incredible and I had to ask a few of them if they were LB. It is not a big deal I just smile and pass by. I stopped in the McDonald's and saw all the burgers were more than I pay back in the states. I wonder how they stay in business? I still cannot sleep so I am doing this post. It is now 0700 and I'll try to get some sleep before 1200 checkout. I need to find a real hotel.
Two street walkers near NEP were asking 1000 baht each for ST the other day.
This has been the norm going back to at least 2007.
A third said up to you.
These are all girls I've never seen or taken before. They didn't know me either. BTW there's not many familiar faces there from last year.
Juicyclamlover
05-21-14, 08:42
I went to the BG a couple of Fridays ago at around 6 pm and it was busy with lots of ladies sitting around and a few chaps.
I walked around until I saw a bar with only 2 guys at it with about 7-8 ladies just by the stairs at the back that lead upto the pool tables.
Lovely girl with a red dress, sitting all alone sipping a soda about 30 years old but very nicely turned out.
Struck up a convo and bought her a drink and and then 2 more and said lets go and eat before heading back to the hotel.
Hadn't been to Gullivers for a while so decided on that, neither had she, as I wanted to check it out again for the FLs.
Anyway my companion was very easy to talk to and her English was excellent.
Had the usual shower, serperately and then wow straight into it, plenty of DFK, BBBJ and some mish and then finished in Doggie, my favourite.
She knew what she wanted and how she liked it and I was only too happy to oblige. A great full on hour and a half for 1500 THB and worth every satang.
So just goes to show that there are diamonds in the rough.
Of course you're right. The important thing is to avoid getting curious and going around looking for some protesters.Don't know if you're being serious, but that's what I did. Having seen some rather unpleasant looking paramilitaries (balaclavas, etc) in Soi 4 I went for a walk around their camp in Lumpini. Interesting - photo of army first aid centre outside park. Actually I went for a jog (although it was too crowded to actually run in the park) as runners are invisible to other people. Stopped for a couple of chats and everyone was very friendly.
Incidentally, unlike previous occasions, there does not seem to be much evidence of actual 'yellow' or 'red' shirts. This may change on more 'active' days of course. I have a nice red shirt given to me a couple of years back with some interesting Thai slogans ('No dictator') etc, which obviously I do not wear in Thailand.
She has been doing this job for only a week and of course hates it LOL. Says she had to numb her mind to be able to do this kind of work. Also she does not plan to do it for long, but I guess we will have to see LOL.Sounds like you had a great time, and clearly she is pretty relaxed about what she is doing. But I would have been a bit uncomfortable if she had started off by saying how much she hated it... I guess I would have responded, as I am sure you did, by being extra nice to her.
ActionOriented
05-21-14, 12:03
Disclaimer: This report is part of a series of reports providing a narrative of my experiences in LOS and these will most likely be long winded. Please skip, if boring.
Preparations for my trip to BKK
In anticipation of my trip to LOS between 17 to 20 May, I have troubled fellow ISG members requesting certain clarifications so that I could have a skeleton itinerary for the trip prior to leaving. In response, I did get some valuable insights, thank you guys.
Coupling this with my own research, I had made a note of the specific joints that I hoped to visit along with references to specific BTS / MRT so as to have a hassle free commute. I had even drawn up the MRT and BST map by hand as a ready reckoner for my use in case I needed it on the move. This was ultimately not required, since public transportation is quite simple to grasp in BKK. I had wanted to avoid taking cabs as much as possible, not due to the cost factor but as you are aware the traffic situation in BKK is not great and moving around within Sukhumvit can take between 15 minutes to anything over half an hour.
I took the last flight out of Delhi to BKK.
Day 1 of 4
Arrived in BKK at 11:30 am and clearing immigration, I moved towards the DTAC counter where I purchased a sim which would be valid for 7 days and gave me 1 GB of data and some talk time for THB 299. I did not have to recharge my card for the entire duration of my trip and I never faced any connectivity issues. On this trip (or at least a part of it) I was accompanied by a friend, who was to spend one day in BKK and then go on to Samui. We took a cab to our hotel and upon request the cabbie stopped at Rajdamri where I needed to change some currency. I had booked a room for myself at Mac Boutique Suites which is located on soi 7, Sukhumvit. It is a 3 to 4 minute walk from BTS Nana and 7 minute walk from Nana Entertainment Plaza. The exterior of the hotel wasn't impressive, however, the room that I got for my stay was quite good. The room opens into the living room area with 2 sofas and a tv, the left side of the room had a kitchen counter and a sink and the path leads onto the bathroom which came with a tub. There was a bed room inside with wardrobe space, a safe and another tv. I quite liked the size of the bed, perfect for what I planned on doing. However, upon reflection, the bed did make a lot of creaking noise and moved easily from one end of the room to the other (this I was to experience at night). In room sound insulation was perfect.
After checking in, we decided on getting a quick meal before heading out. Turns out, Biergarten was located on the same street as our hotel, and I had read somewhere on the forum that the food at this joint was OK. We went into Biergarten and ordered beers with our burgers and checked in the general surrounding. It was 2 pm and the place was reasonably full with several elderly farangs around playing with thai ladies half their age (yet the ladies were much too old for my taste). Checked out all that was on offer and honestly, I was not impressed with the quality of the ladies. I would not want to take any of them for ST and Biergarten gave me the impression of being a place which appeared to be laid back (first impression – probably the wrong time to go there). So we wrapped up the meal quickly, the decision was made to visit the closest oily. Walked across the road onto soi 8 and entered Bamboo. The MP was easy to locate and the interiors had a fresh and new feel to it. We were greeted by Bam at the reception and she explained to us price mechanism and she was very sweet about explaining all of this and assisting us in deciding. I had hoped to take both Bo and / or Cheer (after reading about the stuff they can do) but Bam informed me that Bo was not available and then gave some vague reason for her being away. Since the threesome was not to happen, she asked her girls to line up and they all went and sat on a bench which was made inside a closet space. The space did appear to be claustrophobic, in any case, I chose Nana and my friend chose Koi.
Since only one VIP room was available, I let my friend take it. I went along with Nana to a normal room. The rooms at this place are small but adequate, the wash area is extremely small which allows for more contact with the girl. Nana had a constant smile on her face which is something I really appreciate in WGs, in their tough jobs, maintaining a good attitude all the time is commendable. We went into the shower and she cleaned me up really well and she teased me so much that we almost went at it in the shower (thankfully, better sense prevailed). She had gotten me so aroused in the shower, that after the shower, instead of going for the massage, I lifted her up and put her on massage bed and went down on her. DATY got her riled up and that led to a decent BJ. After pumping her for a while, she offered and encouraged that I go A levels with her. Therefore, I gladly sodomised her in doggy, missionary and cowgirl. During cowgirl I blew my load.
This girl is skinny and petite but very active in bed. I was happy with the quality of service. After the first round she gave me a good massage and with only half an hour left on the clock was curious to know when I would begin round 2. Since I had come off a flight sometime back, I was not able to go for round 2. We chilled for a while and then I left after tipping her THB 200. My friend informed me that his session with Koi wasn't too bad either, however, he was sent off / or he left after round 1.
Although communicating with the girl was an issue, I had had my first PSE in LOS and was quite happy by the end of it.
Damages THB 2,400 + 200 tip.
After the session at Bamboo, we had a few rounds of drinks back at the hotel in preparation of hitting the Go-Gos. We set out for Cowboy at around 9 pm and made a first walk up and down the strip, it appeared to be just the way I remembered it. Since I had read a few other reports in relation to Crazy House, I was interested in checking that place out first. In my first walk down the strip, I could not locate Crazy House. Just then it came to me that Crazy House was situated off Cowboy and tucked into a corner. Finally, I did manage to spot the red kiosk indicating Crazy House. So with a jump in my step, I walked towards Crazy House and the two guys sitting at the entrance made a forward move which I thought was to pull away the curtain and allow us entry, however, they just shut the curtains closer together. One of the guys at the gate looked confused as to whether he should allow my friend and me entry into the place and asks another guy seated behind him whether they should let us in. After a thought, the other guy says "members only", this gets repeated by the guys who are holding the curtains together. I quickly understood what this was about, it was about denying a brown man entry into yet another Go-Go in BKK (my last such experience was at Rainbow 4) – Rights of Admission Are Reserved, indeed. I did not bother discussing any further and walked away.
My friend and I then next moved towards Bacarra which has a set of simple rules. Japanese (and probably Koreans) get to directly enter, farangs a few of them (probably regulars) can also enter. But the remaining farangs, Indians and people of other myriad ethnicities are required to purchase a drink from the counter outside before they can gain admittance to Bacarra. These rules were clear enough and sends across the message loud and clear that only paying patrons need visit the establishment which is generally acceptable and not particularly racist in light of what we experienced at Crazy House.
So we did purchase our drinks at the counter and entered Bacarra and lo and behold, I was stunned by the interiors and the energy contained in this place. My first impressions of the place was good and we quickly found a corner to seat ourselves (assisted by the waitresses / mamasans) There were two boards with the same message hanging from the ceiling which said that the first floor would be re-opening soon, probably a result of the fire. Since the first floor was a no-go, Bacarra appeared to be very full and popular. They had a huge collection of Go-Go girls and they were divided into two sets, one group of girls wearing a translucent (read transparent) yellow halters and skirts and the other group wearing black halters and skirts. Each group was so huge that the stage appeared to be stocked with hardly any space to move for the girls. After every 2 to 3 songs, the group on the stage would line up towards the far right and allow the next group of girls to get on stage and then the earlier group would make their exit. The process seemed tedious yet quite efficient.
I was miffed by the Crazy House episode and could not quite settle down at Bacarra and by the time I was on my second drink, my friend had had his eyes on no. 269 as soon as he expressed interest she was by his side and they started chatting and playing about. While I sat there glum, checking out the stock on stage and I was pleasantly surprised to find so many beautiful girls. One girl in particular 251 had caught my fancy. By the time, I told the mamasan that I would like to speak to her, I was informed that a few other patrons had asked for her time as well (I would, however, be coming back for her. See next report). Blah, what a waste of money. During this time, my friend had already bar fined the girl who he first set sights on and I exited Bacarra and went into Suzie Wong.
Suzie Wong appears to be a very old Go-Go the interiors seem seedy and they do not seem to have ever renovated (only seniors here will know for sure, this was just my impression of the interiors). I sat in one corner, ordered a drink and was watching the naked women bouncing on stage. Just as I was getting bored with the combination of the music and naked women lined up on stage, the lights went out and 2 or 3 girls went on to the stage. I could see body paint on these girls which looked beautiful in the UV lighting. There was also an artist who was putting finishing touches on the girls who were gyrating on stage. An impressive performance accentuated by the colors and lights. There was this cute dancer sitting next to me, who I hadn't quite noticed. She started chatting with me, since communicating in English was a problem for her, she also had a fellow dancer who spoke slightly better English act as translator. This girl I found out was Dee (no. 75) was very playful and while her assets weren't something to write home about, she had a fantastic figure. As soon as I bought her a lady drink, she quickly got on top of me and started giving me something akin to a lap dance. Being impressed with her skills, I decided not to waste any more time and quickly bar fined her (she did fit my type). I was given the option of taking her to a short time room upstairs (inside Suzie Wong), I declined and told the mamasan that I will take her to my hotel on soi 7. They didn't mind, neither did the girl, so I paid the THB 600 bar fine and the girl agreed to a price of THB 1,500 for ST (I was looking for LT, but the girl did not go for LT). We walked out of the club, walked through the strip and caught a cab near the intersection. (BTW the cab ride at 12 am from Cowboy to soi 7 took 20 minutes) She was a fireball in the cab and it was great fun getting to know her. The girl was from Isaan and very fair, I wasn't able to quite separate how much of it was due to make up, but she did look very cute indeed.
Once we were in my room, there was no hurrying me to begin the proceedings or taking a shower. We just sat around chatting (it was difficult), the girl showed me her pictures on FB and we generally were having a good time. It didn't seem like she wanted to return to the bar and soon enough she clarified that she danced only 2 or 3 times a week. The girl was 21 and gave one of the best GFEs I have had till date. When we began the session in bed, she was open to everything and allowed me to do whatever I wanted. We did the cowgirl-doggie-missionary routine 3 times and she didn't object once. We tried a couple of new positions which I had not yet tried, she was OK with it. With the extremely powerful session we were having, I noticed after while the bed in my room had moved from one corner to the other and the creaks were getting increasingly louder. Also, the curtains in my bed room were drawn and for long periods of time we were screwing around facing the window. I am quite sure the girl noticed and IMHO she was thrilled by the prospect that we may have been seen by people (however, chances of someone watching at that time of the night were rare) We ended up having sex for almost an hour (I had actually lost track of time), it was a really good experience and I was happy that I acted on instinct and immediately bar fined her instead of waiting around and checking out the other bars.
I was so happy with her service that instead of the agreed THB 1,500, I paid her THB 2,000. She had spent almost 3 hours in my room. An extended ST I would think.
One point about the hotel, if you get a girl in they require that the girl deposit her I'd card at the hotel and Dee had informed at SW that she had left her I'd card at home that night and if that was going to be a problem we could use the ST room in SW instead of going to my hotel. I told her I will manage the hotel staff and they were very cool about it, yet very concerned about the guests safety. After the session I came down to the lobby and got Dee a cab to go home and the staff at the reception checked if all was OK. My friend had received a call from the reception when his girl was leaving to check whether all was OK. In that sense, the hotel staff seemed alert and wanting to ensure the safety of their guests.
I did manage to get both the Bamboo girl and SW girl to clicks selfies with me, however, it was their request to not disseminate and me being equally prominent in the picture, I have decided against uploading them.
Report on Day 2 will follow shortly.
SirWilliam4
05-21-14, 14:31
The Beer Garden is often reviewed in less than favorable terms, so I'll offer a different picture for those that might have tastes similar to mine. Being somewhat older, I find little connection with 20 year old girls. Yes, the bodies can be beautiful, but the connection just never seems to be there -- for me at least. My preferred age range is 35 to 45. Not everyone's cup of tea, I agree. It is mine, however.
That's where the Beer Garden comes in. I'm 5 for 5 there during my most recent two trips to BKK. I like to get a beer, sit at a table, and scope out the scene. Usually there are several of the older, slim women that appeal to me. In fact, almost all the women there are "older". Given a little time, a few eye contacts are made. Conversations develop. Compatibilities are checked out. Drinks are shared. Then, off we go. Always seems to be 1,000 to 1,500 for ST. I don't negotiate. Most have other jobs and do this part time to supplement their income. I like that also.
For me, this place is a real winner. I've recently taken five delightful ladies from there. Looks ranging from 7-9. Service ranges about the same. (There really is something to be said for experience). I've saved all five phone numbers and already repeated with a couple of these sweethearts.
SW.
ActionOriented
05-21-14, 16:54
Day 2 of 4
Sunday, 18th May.
After the romp I had last night with Dee from Suzie Wong, it was a task getting out of bed. I had barely slept for 4 hours and it was time to get up to eat some breakfast (in the excitement of last night I had not eaten anything). I didn't have an option to catch another nap post breakfast since my friend had a flight to Samui and needed to leave by 2 pm, therefore, we needed to get an oily MP done before his departure.
Our focus was on the MPs situated in soi 24/1, this street has Snow White 2, Cherry, Angel, EZ Massage 2, a Japanese joint (Otomenchi club or something like that) and a few others. Given that it was still early in the day and from my limited experience I knew that although the MPs open up by 10.30 or so, the star performers are hardly, if ever, available this early in the morning. My friend and me took the BTS from Nana to Phrom Phrang and walked into soi 24/1 and it was around 11.30 am at this time. We first sauntered into EZ massage 2 (which came with good recommendations from friends), the ladies (quite a few) of them were sitting outside the MP and hogging down their morning grub. Seeing us approach, they make a run inside. I sit next to the mamasan on the couch and chat with her and ask her for the line up. She asks the girls available to come out and there were no attractive women in the line up. I had expected much better from this place. I then asked if Jang had come into work, she said that she doesn't come in that early and she was just about to call her up to get her to come in. However, I told her that for the girl to get in after the call would take sometime, so I thanked her and told her I will come the next day and see the line up.
Next we walk into Cherry Massage, there were about 5 girls available (some did resemble the pictures on their website), but none piqued my interest. My friend wasn't too happy at what he saw either. We had to walk out of another MP without success. I was tempted to go into the Japanese club but after last night's incident, I did not feel like being told that they will provide to people of my ethnicity. We walked into the last MP on that street which was Angel Massage and here the line up was better and the girls were better prepared. They had their red uniforms on and were in various stages of getting ready for the work day. We were not given a line up, the receptionist wasn't very friendly and asked us to select from a picture book. OK, since some of the pictures were good we enquired. Then she sees that the logic of looking into a picture book to select a girl (when more than half the girls hadn't yet come into work) was not working, she quickly pointed out the 7 girls who were available. We quickly scanned and both my friend and me found two attractive girls. My friend went with Gipsy. I took Yaya. Yaya had a very different look about her, not very Thai like and that was an interesting feature. This girl was on the mature side, if I was to hazard a guess possibly between 28 to 32. She had creamy white skin and without any make-up had a glow about her. The first floor of Angel massage is being renovated, therefore, we had to climb up 2 floors before we got to our designated room. I had asked for a 1.5 hour lotion massage. Into the shower, Yaya did not take any special efforts (unlike Nana at Bamboo) to arouse me and appeared to be very business oriented. Soon I was spread eagled on the bed and she was rubbing some Aloe based lotion into my back, I would have thought that a mature lady would be better at her massage skills but that was not to be. There was much to be desired from the massage. Instead of wasting any more time on a pointless massage, I spread her out on the bed gave her a little DATY in the hope that would turn her on. My DATY was pointless and she remained just the same. She gave a lousy CBJ which was not something worth remembering either. On to cowgirl, her pussy was surprisingly tight (or may be she had learnt a way to contract the muscles) for a mature lady and it was great fun doing her in cowgirl. She was tired soon and then I had to flip her onto doggie, where I went at her mercilessly for a long time and I could see her facial expressions change. At times she looked like she was on the verge of cumming yet was trying real hard to avoid because that would get her tired and on the other she had question mark expression which made her think when I was likely to finish. Anyways, since nothing up till this point had been to my satisfaction, I took my own sweet time and banged her till the clock ran out. Her best feature was the color and feel of her skin and to some extent her boobs.
For her efforts, I tipped her THB 200, the counter charges for a 1.5 hour lotion massage were THB 2,100. A levels could not be achieved, although, my friend was able to get there with Gipsy. Side note, Gipsy was hot and worth a spin may consider taking her next time.
Once my friend left for the airport, I made a solitary journey to the weekend market. I quite enjoyed the street shopping for 2 to 3 hours, picked up random paraphernalia that I didn't really need. The street shopping had made me tired and legs ached, since I was close to BTS Mo Chit / MRT Chatuchak, it was a decision between a soapy and oily. For old times sake, I thought Nataree deserved a visit. So I hopped onto the MRT to Huay Khwang and without wasting a minute with any of the other soapies, I walked into Nataree (and this time through the correct entrance where the sideliners sit). WOW, this place was just brimming with quality girls. As far as the eye could see, the place had pretty sideliners and gawking Japanese patrons who were taking their time mulling over the choices available. (typical Nataree quality FYI this was at 7 pm). Since it was becoming difficult for me to decide, I consulted with the helpful Papasan. He suggested two or three, out of which was the girl who first smiled at me when I entered. So the choice was made, I paid THB 2,600 at the counter and followed the girl into the elevator. The tiny elevator, I kid you not, had 4 other Japanese guys each with a cute 20 something I would do any of the girls without a fuss.
The interiors of Nataree are ugly and decaying and if it wasn't for the girls, I would not have ever considered going back there in the fear that I would catch something from the aging upholstery. My entertainment for the evening was Aun from Chiang Rai (I speculate that Nataree largely sources their girls from Chiang Rai given that I have been with two other girls from Nataree in the past who hail from Chiang Rai). She could not speak English and she was finding it very difficult to communicate with me wanting to understand what I wanted. But she had a beautiful smile and that said it all. I knew I was going to get great service and that I had made the right choice (thanks, Papasan). Aun was 22 and although slightly heavy (not fat but literally heavy, I felt it while changing positions), she had nothing I could fault. After getting bathed like a baby which I quite enjoy ;D we moved the proceedings to the bed. She managed to get rid of the slight ache in my feet with basic massage skills and thereafter I was ready to go. I tried to go down on her, but Nataree girls are ticklish and slightly shy (apologies for the generalisation, may be others have managed to get more) about getting DATY, so therefore I avoided. Best part about this time was there was no tv in the room which is a distraction more than anything, so all we had was to look into the big ass mirrors while we fuck. A CBJ was short and to the point, we moved onto the real deal. She was tight and that was fun to penetrate. We were at it for a while and she had to take two breaks to cool off. I kept going but was not able to shoot and I was tired of getting into multiple positions and I could see that she was getting tired but not objecting. Almost near completion of the allotted session time, I finally told her to let it be and there was no need for me to close. She kept bowing and apologizing to me that she could not make me happy and I was feeling really humiliated that she couldn't quite understand that I was telling her that it was OK and I was happy with the service she gave me. To end things, I gave her THB 200 as tip and hopefully she got the point and didn't obsess about not making me happy.
Returned to the hotel after the session at Nataree and after a couple of stiff pegs, without realising it I had dozed off for an hour or so. I woke up with a start and realised that it was 10 pm, I quickly got ready and rushed to Nana Plaza. First stop at Spanky's, ordered a coke (smoking allowed inside) and watched some girl on girl action on the stage. After the girls ate each other up, a group of ladies went on to the stage with their foam whips and the music got loud. They hit on every guy entering or leaving, after I looked and didn't find anyone I would like to buy a lady drink for I left. As I was leaving, I too, like several others got a whack on the back. Took the circular route, went past Voodoo (at least the LB outside the establishment aren't as aggressive as those on the first floor), crossed Angelswitch and took the stairs to the first floor and entered Mandarin. I felt quite sorry for the establishment (it was empty), it is based on the theme of table top dancing and each table has a girl who was dancing for your pleasure. Except for one I did not fancy anyone and the club was very empty, there was at point only me in it until a farang entered and allowed me to make an exit.
Since Nana was a bore that evening or maybe I was dismissing it too quick, I took a cab to soi 11 and went to Climax (basement Ambassador Hotel). I paid a THB 250 entry fee which included a free drink and I entered the club at around 12 am. I had been informed that I must enter only post 12, given that's when the hotties start pouring in. I was sitting there nursing my drink and there must have been 30 to 40 people within the club. A few obvious girls looking for pick ups were dancing about in order to attract attention but the picking were too few to get me hungry. Nevertheless, I kept ordering drinks for myself in order to kill some time. By 1 am, there was a good crowd and the band started to pay and things were much better. There is generally pressure to buy drinks once inside the club, but I had hit it off with one of the waitresses and she got me a drink and a pack of smokes and she took to the right table where I needed to be sitting. This table had a stunner (8/10) and she and her other GFs were standing around the table, most dancing she wasn't. One of her friends spoke into my ear if I was interested, I pointed out her friend that had caught my fancy and made me stick around Climax. She quickly conveyed my interest to the girl in Thai, they both had a private exchange of words and giggles. That's when the waitress magically appeared and got us drinks and complimented me on my choice. I started chatting this girl up and since it was getting late and it had been a long day for me, I told her I wanted to get out of here soon. She agreed but said that since she works in a shop in Asok she would not be able to go long time and I was OK with her coming back to the hotel for ST. Although, her quoted price was high THB 3,000 (which under normal circumstances I would not have paid) but considering that she was hot and I was drunk, I agreed a little too quickly.
We went back to the hotel and in the cab I felt that she was a good pick, probably the best in the club. I was happy to have acted fast because I did notice a couple of guys also ogling at her in the club. Upon reaching the hotel room, she sat and chatted with me a bit and that's when I discovered about her being a semi pro and being on the payroll of Climax. After the general chit chat, we went into the bath and had some fun. By the way, her name was Phin. We moved the proceedings back into the bed room, I immediately got down to DATY and I could see her trembling. Soon enough, I received a good CBJ and we moved things into Cowgirl, where she came and forcefully (she warned me as well). I turned her around for doggie (my favourite) and then to lotus and back to missionary and then back to doggie. Finally, I had to give up and blow my load since she had cum for the second time and was falling on me with exhaustion. I couldn't be so cruel as to keep banging her for the next 10 minutes or so. We had been at it from 3 to 4:30 am. As always, I come down to drop the girl and ensure that she gets into a cab. Since there were no cabs available in front of the hotel, me and my jelly legs walked hand in hand with her to Nana BTS where I placed her in a cab and managed to somehow stumble back to my room. I had been up for 24 hours and had 3 sessions, a long day indeed.
Day 3 report to follow shortly.
Paul Kausch
05-21-14, 19:35
Don't know if you're being serious, but that's what I did. Having seen some rather unpleasant looking paramilitaries (balaclavas, etc) in Soi 4 I went for a walk around their camp in Lumpini. Interesting - photo of army first aid centre outside park. Actually I went for a jog (although it was too crowded to actually run in the park) as runners are invisible to other people. Stopped for a couple of chats and everyone was very friendly.
Incidentally, unlike previous occasions, there does not seem to be much evidence of actual 'yellow' or 'red' shirts. This may change on more 'active' days of course. I have a nice red shirt given to me a couple of years back with some interesting Thai slogans ('No dictator') etc, which obviously I do not wear in Thailand.I see no danger visiting a location where a bunch of partisans are relaxing. It sounds like this is what you did. If a saw a bunch pf people staging a protest, I'd stay away. That's just me. I don't believe in tempting fate.
Did SOL today and was a bit dismayed. I entered and there was a lady well north of 50 serving drinks (I thought at least). A cutie came in and got the blowing started. Was a bit slow to cum as I did a session earlier in the day in other places. The young and pretty lady suggested the 50+ lady join in and do some FJ to get me going. I thought she was kidding so I joked I prefer them younger. They got seriously pissed that I had said it.
Another nice looking provider got in and did some FJ. An older gent entered after me and fuck he wast PESTERED by the old hag so much I was tempted to just tell her to fucking shut her pie hole and give us both men peace. He was obviously not enjoying it either. I did not wish to shoulder my way past him as he got his thing going so I got a second drink and man the hag was going on and on, the crew was talking shit about me not wanting to fuck the 50+ lady too. What the hell are they thinking, she is probably old enough to be my mother and I'm not that young anymore.
Juicyclamlover
05-22-14, 05:02
The Beer Garden is often reviewed in less than favorable terms, so I'll offer a different picture for those that might have tastes similar to mine. Being somewhat older, I find little connection with 20 year old girls. Yes, the bodies can be beautiful, but the connection just never seems to be there -- for me at least. My preferred age range is 35 to 45. Not everyone's cup of tea, I agree. It is mine, however.
That's where the Beer Garden comes in. I'm 5 for 5 there during my most recent two trips to BKK. I like to get a beer, sit at a table, and scope out the scene. Usually there are several of the older, slim women that appeal to me. In fact, almost all the women there are "older". Given a little time, a few eye contacts are made. Conversations develop. Compatibilities are checked out. Drinks are shared. Then, off we go. Always seems to be 1,000 to 1,500 for ST. I don't negotiate. Most have other jobs and do this part time to supplement their income. I like that also.
For me, this place is a real winner. I've recently taken five delightful ladies from there. Looks ranging from 7-9. Service ranges about the same. (There really is something to be said for experience). I've saved all five phone numbers and already repeated with a couple of these sweethearts.
SW.I agree with your comments whole heartedly SW4 being of a similar standing to your good self.
Western787
05-22-14, 07:50
My friend and I then next moved towards Bacarra which has a set of simple rules. Japanese (and probably Koreans) get to directly enter, farangs a few of them (probably regulars) can also enter. But the remaining farangs, Indians and people of other myriad ethnicities are required to purchase a drink from the counter outside before they can gain admittance to Baccara. These rules were clear enough and sends across the message loud and clear that only paying patrons need visit the establishment which is generally acceptable and not particularly racist in light of what we experienced at Crazy House.
So we did purchase our drinks at the counter and entered Baccara and lo and behold, I was stunned by the interiors and the energy contained in this place. My first impressions of the place was good and we quickly found a corner to seat ourselves (assisted by the waitresses / mamasans) There were two boards with the same message hanging from the ceiling which said that the first floor would be re-opening soon, probably a result of the fire. Since the first floor was a no-go, Bacarra appeared to be very full and popular. They had a huge collection of Go-Go girls and they were divided into two sets, one group of girls wearing a translucent (read transparent) yellow halters and skirts and the other group wearing black halters and skirts. Each group was so huge that the stage appeared to be stocked with hardly any space to move for the girls. After every 2 to 3 songs, the group on the stage would line up towards the far right and allow the next group of girls to get on stage and then the earlier group would make their exit. The process seemed tedious yet quite efficient.
Sorry to hear about the racial discrimination, but in regard to Baccara, (as a Farang) I have never had to buy a drink before entering. While I've been there a number of times I'm certainly not a "regular" either.
As far as seating, IMHO the best place to sit is on the right side (using the tiered seating) as given the stage configuration, most of the girls have to face toward that seating area, so its almost like being seated in a mini theater.
Western787
05-22-14, 08:07
Did SOL today and was a bit dismayed. I entered and there was a lady well north of 50 serving drinks (I thought at least). A cutie came in and got the blowing started. Was a bit slow to cum as I did a session earlier in the day in other places. The young and pretty lady suggested the 50+ lady join in and do some FJ to get me going. I thought she was kidding so I joked I prefer them younger. They got seriously pissed that I had said it.
Another nice looking provider got in and did some FJ. An older gent entered after me and fuck he wast PESTERED by the old hag so much I was tempted to just tell her to fucking shut her pie hole and give us both men peace. He was obviously not enjoying it either. I did not wish to shoulder my way past him as he got his thing going so I got a second drink and man the hag was going on and on, the crew was talking shit about me not wanting to fuck the 50+ lady too. What the hell are they thinking, she is probably old enough to be my mother and I'm not that young anymore.Think of it this way, had it actually happened, it could have been worse like it was for this dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28eC57Xniko.
FreebieFan
05-22-14, 08:31
The Beer Garden is often reviewed in less than favorable terms, so I'll offer a different picture for those that might have tastes similar to mine. Being somewhat older, I find little connection with 20 year old girls. Yes, the bodies can be beautiful, but the connection just never seems to be there -- for me at least. My preferred age range is 35 to 45. Not everyone's cup of tea, I agree. It is mine, however.
That's where the Beer Garden comes in. I'm 5 for 5 there during my most recent two trips to BKK. I like to get a beer, sit at a table, and scope out the scene. Usually there are several of the older, slim women that appeal to me. In fact, almost all the women there are "older". Given a little time, a few eye contacts are made. Conversations develop. Compatibilities are checked out. Drinks are shared. Then, off we go. Always seems to be 1,000 to 1,500 for ST. I don't negotiate. Most have other jobs and do this part time to supplement their income. I like that also.
For me, this place is a real winner. I've recently taken five delightful ladies from there. Looks ranging from 7-9. Service ranges about the same. (There really is something to be said for experience). I've saved all five phone numbers and already repeated with a couple of these sweethearts.
SW.I too have read the various negative comments about the place but in 10 years of business trips I've only ever had good times from there. Sometimes before a Nana / Cowboy night but often after when I want a little light action for the night. Given that like most I may have already had a pop earlier in the day.
The type I seem to find are the ones that are easy to talk to, will laugh at what you say, will return phone calls, will be happy with the money paid and will probably tidy up your room and provide a decent massage before the main event also.
ActionOriented
05-22-14, 08:40
Day 3 of 4
After last night's tumble my body and my pocket were both feeling much lighter. I somehow managed to get a few hours of sleep and woke up by 1 pm. I crack open the in-room safe to check the situation of finances, and it turns out that the lady drinks and bar fines were causing a serious dent in my original outlay of funds. Something needed to be done. I had a few dollars left on me as backup, so I made the trip from the hotel to Rajdamri and converted what I had left, hoping against hope that this would last the remaining two days (I would be proven wrong).
I took the BTS from Chitlom to Phrom Phrang flush with a new wad of cash and a spring in my step moving towards my next fix. Typical junkie behaviour, in a moment of orgasmic clarity I did see the sad truth about me having made the transition into an addict.
My original plan for Day 1 was to experience a threesome by ordering in from one of the several MPs. Since the best laid plans have ways of never coming to pass, I had to take up this fantasy only on Day 3. Getting off at Phrom Phrang, I walked into soi 24/1 and walked directly to EZMassage. In retrospect, I should have ordered ahead of walking into EZ and requested for the girls that I had been advised to take in the first place, felt like a fool having not thought this through. Anyways, the mamasan gets the girls available to line up for an inspection and I tell her that I would be very interested in taking two girls. She found this request amusing (I would have thought it was quite a run of the mill request at the establishment) and spoke to the girls in Thai asking them which girls would be comfortable in going with another girl in the mix. Out of the 7 girls who had lined up, two girls beat a hasty retreat apologizing that they were not comfortable with another girl in the room. So I had to choose between 5 girls, none of them were stunners but 3 girls were very doable.
I chose Tatar and Daisy, you can check out their pictures on the website (although the pictures appear to be photo-shopped). Tatar had a tanned complexion where as Daisy was fair with a short haircut, small boobs and pink nips. Tatar was on the heavy side and the most attractive feature she had were the huge jugs which would work perfectly in a sandwich. Both women appeared to be between 26 to 30 years old, it was difficult to tell (the website, however, mentions their ages to be 23 and 24). I had asked for a 1 hour session only (austerity measures), the session with both girls would have cost me THB 4,200 but the mamasan gave me a discount of THB 400 since I was the only customer around at the time. The girls and me walked up two floors and into a tiny room with a normal massage bed, I wish they provisioned for larger beds in some rooms dedicated to threesomes. I imagined (and rightly so) that taking these two girls on such a small bed would be a task.
After exchanging pleasantries, Tatar asked me if I wanted a massage as well, I told her since I was short on time let us proceed to sex. So we quickly got into the shower, given that the shower chamber was very tiny Daisy and I went in first and she bathed me. She was just not able to control the giggles and says that this is like giving bath to husband. I didn't get the humour, but anyways. Once we finish, Tatar went in for a quick wash. By the time she emerges, Daisy started massaging my arms while I was caressing her breasts. Tatar gets down to business without further ado, she gets out a red coloured (probably flavoured) condom and starts giving me the best BJ I had gotten in BKK this time around. Daisy and I keep exploring each other in the meantime and her smile is infectious and gets me in a good mood. I get a condom change and Daisy gets on top in cowgirl and while I am pumping her, Tatar is on the far end of the bed giving me a superficial rimjob. I bang Daisy for about 10 minutes and then I get another condom change, then I take Tatar in missionary for another 10 minutes. Thereafter, with a final change of condom, I take Daisy in doggie while Tatar is behind me rubbing her humungous boobs on my back while I bang away. My backside also gets a good licking during this time. The combination of all of this made me unload very quickly indeed. This was the quickest session and it was the one to which I was looking forward to the most (although not with the choice of my girls). There was no girl on girl action, which I would think is the basic premise of a threesome. They both attacked me with a ferocity which was kind of nice but that just put more performance pressure on me (sigh). During the BJ, Tatar was making such sexy sounds which I had heard only in pornos and it made me smile, since I could not fathom the reason for her to be making such sounds while delivering a BJ!
All in all I would rate this experience to a 7/10, may be more PSE with some toy play would have gotten the session a higher rating (may need to visit Eden next time, unless there are better threesome joints out there, suggestions? I tipped both the girls THB 400 in total (since I wasn't looking for a discount, I gave this back to the girl in tips).
Tragedy strikes at Bacarra
I chilled out in the evening and caught some rest, since this was my last night in the city and I wanted to make night out of it at Bacarra where I had spotted an angel (no. 251). Since I had spotted her on the first night, I thought I could get her out of my head if I gave it sometime. However, that was not to be and I kept thinking about her. I was waiting for evening so that I could go on to Bacarra and get the girl. Managed to get to Bacarra by 9 pm and was pleasantly surprised to see that the girls dresses had been changed. One group of girls were wearing purple see through halters and skirts and another group was wearing black see through halters and skirts (at least these guys take the effort to invest some cash into the girls wardrobes if not in training the girls to dance). Most Go Go girls in Bacarra do not bother to dance and move from in a 1 square foot area shuffling from one foot to another. This time I get to the bar counter and get the seat closest to the steps that lead onto the stage, a good vantage point to see the girls passing by from close quarters. I made this my place for the evening and apart from stepping out for intermittent smoke breaks, I used this bar stool as command central. Once the drink arrived, I started scouting the girls to locate the girl of interest. Just when I begin scouting, one set just about gets over and she comes down from the stage and goes and sits on the lap of a Japanese dude who was sitting next to the stage. Hmm, now I needed to wait it out until she finished her lady drink. Once she finishes her drink (I think it was water) she goes onto the stage for her next set where she shuffles around for a bit and as soon as her set she comes down off the stage and that's when I try searching for a mamasan to get this girl around. Late again, she goes into the changing room and surely she gets bar fined by the Japanese dude. They make their way out of the bar and towards one of the ST rooms, it was still early in the night and I knew that she would be back at the bar within the hour. In the meantime, I had chatted up one of waitresses and bought her a drink and told her that as soon as my girl of interest returns I would like some facetime with her since I wanted to bar fine her. The message was received and understood.
I scouted around for other talent on the stage and found quite a few who could be alternatives, 077,048, 075 they all had similar soft looks which were similar to no. 251 (not surprisingly, these were all to my taste).
I was sitting on the bar stool and enjoying the music, the girls and the general environment within Bacarra (I kinda liked the music and energy). It was electrifying with some girls making an effort to attract the attention of Japanese men mostly and a few farangs to bar fine them. While I was enjoying this spectacle, two hostesses each in the same kind of black dresses slide up to me (I do not remember the numbers), they were generally pretty but not my type. They allow me to feel them up, although I wasn't too keen, the price I paid was a drink each. Both hostesses were spinners, they wanted me to bar fine both of them and they assured me that since they would both be into it and I could expect a rollicking time. Tempted as I was, I had come there on a mission to find my girl and bar fine her, therefore, I could not distract myself with these pretty hostesses for the time being. I told the girls I needed to think about it, they asked me every 5 minutes until their drink was over. By then it was time for them to move onto other customers, I was glad that I was left to my devices. During the course of the evening, I was approached by the hostesses on 3 occasions to check if I had made up my mind (and I hadn't, in retrospect I should have taken the spinners probably would have had an awesome threesome).
There is a lot of pressure inside Bacarra to buy drinks for oneself and a girl or two. But after having bought myself a couple of drinks, one drink for the waitress, one drink each for the two hostesses, I was left alone and not pressured any further. As the night progressed, the music started getting even better and the place was full with no place to move around and one needed to squeeze through a mass of patrons and girls walking through the aisles. I stepped out for a smoke and it was like destiny who should I see returning back to the bar but the girl of interest. She was in no hurry to go back in and was chilling at the bar counter outside. That's when I indicated to the waitress that this was the one and she spoke to the girl in Thai and told her of my interest. She was even better looking (with such a tiny nose) up close and I was glad I waited around. I asked for a drink for the lady and she got water for which I paid THB 180 since the girl's English was passable I had to ask the waitress why she was being served water instead of a proper drink. I was informed that she wasn't well and water was all the doc had advised.
I started chatting with her and got the rudimentary stuff out of the way she appeared to be between 18 to 20, however, upon further inquiry it turns out that she was my age and I thought that at least that deserved to break the ice and make her more comfortable in my presence (Alas, that was not to be, see below). Towards the end of her drink I expressed an interest in bar fining her. This is when tragedy strikes and I was left heartbroken. :( She let me down very gently and tells me that she has a Japanese men only policy and that she does not go with anyone else. In a way, that's true, over the three days that I saw her I didn't see her chat with a single farang and getting bar fined only by Japanese dudes.
I went back and in a few moments I saw her getting bar fined again by another Japanese dude, crushed, I started scouting for alternatives. The crowd at this point had started to thin, the number of girls had halved due to bar fines. It was becoming difficult to find a girl who piqued my interest, during this time another girl came to me after her set on stage and started fishing for a bar fine. I wasn't game, so asked her to move along. Since it was getting late and was nearing 1:30 am and I managed to spot a cute (with chubby cheeks) girl on the stage and she was quite playful and we played a game of hide and seek she from the stage and I from the bar stool. Soon enough I caught hold of her when she was getting off the stage and within minutes I bar fined her. Her name was Bam (do not remember her number) I took her to my hotel. She was either 20 or 21, by that time of the night I was half deaf and could not hear much or be bothered to make any conversation. We got done with showers and since she barely understood the things I was discussing, but kept a constant smile, the exercise seemed futile. So I banged her to my hearts' content, this girl probably made the weirdest sounds I have ever heard whilst screwing, but that's something I can let pass. Her attitude was great and we had a lot of fun in quite a few positions (yet all I could think of the girl mentioned earlier). I let her go by 4 am. Paid her THB 2,600 for her efforts.
Report on Day 4 to follow.
Western787
05-22-14, 08:42
I too have read the various negative comments about the place but in 10 years of business trips I've only ever had good times from there. Sometimes before a Nana / Cowboy night but often after when I want a little light action for the night. Given that like most I may have already had a pop earlier in the day.
The type I seem to find are the ones that are easy to talk to, will laugh at what you say, will return phone calls, will be happy with the money paid and will probably tidy up your room and provide a decent massage before the main event also.Stickman for years has alluded to it as "house of horrors" but in reality 1. The girls are quite pleasant and seem to appreciate it when customers arrive 2. No Thermae issue with the Japs, in fact I don't think I've seen Japs there. 3. a basic simple club, with simple being better.
Now as far as young cuties, while not real common, but you can now and then catch university types coming in there to earn some extra bucks, and some are real cute.
ActionOriented
05-22-14, 08:45
Sorry to hear about the racial discrimination, but in regard to Baccara, (as a Farang) I have never had to buy a drink before entering. While I've been there a number of times I'm certainly not a "regular" either.
As far as seating, IMHO the best place to sit is on the right side (using the tiered seating) as given the stage configuration, most of the girls have to face toward that seating area, so its almost like being seated in a mini theater.I did sit at the tiered seating area (on all days except one) and there are generally bound to be Japanese guys seated in the general vicinity as well. IMHO it seemed that all the girls dance for them. However, I still quite like Bacarra due to the general high quality of girls.
As far as entry goes, as I mentioned, it is arbitrary, some farangs were being asked to buy drinks prior to entry and some were not. Therefore, I speculated that the ones who weren't being asked to buy drinks were regulars.
Western787
05-22-14, 08:56
by that time of the night I was half deaf .You really need ear plugs in these clubs, with the noise in Rainbow 1, 4, and Bacarra at destructive decibel levels along with many others. As for the dancers who are subjected to this volume on a nearly daily basis, many in later years will be working as deaf mute FL's.
In front of the Nana Hotel.
My friend and I then next moved towards Bacarra which has a set of simple rules. Japanese (and probably Koreans) get to directly enter, farangs a few of them (probably regulars) can also enter. But the remaining farangs, Indians and people of other myriad ethnicities are required to purchase a drink from the counter outside before they can gain admittance to Bacarra. These rules were clear enough and sends across the message loud and clear that only paying patrons need visit the establishment which is generally acceptable and not particularly racist in light of what we experienced at Crazy House.I'm not so sure about these 'rules'. Maybe it simply depends on how busy the place is? So if the place is full or almost full they ask people to buy a drink at the counter outside first and then wait until a seat is available inside.
At least this is the impression I got. I was denied access also a few weeks ago. This was on a Sunday night and the place looked rather busy. There were quite a lot of people waiting in line for the counter to purchase a drink. Among them were farangs (like me) as well as Japanese and some other ethnicities.
The next day however (so on a Monday) I could walk in right away and the place was far less crowded than the night before. Weekends always tend to be more crowded than week days.
I don't think it has anything to do with paying or non paying customers. As far as I know it is mandatory to purchase a drink in an agogo. But I could be wrong there.
ActionOriented
05-22-14, 09:52
I'm not so sure about these 'rules'. Maybe it simply depends on how busy the place is? So if the place is full or almost full they ask people to buy a drink at the counter outside first and then wait until a seat is available inside.
At least this is the impression I got. I was denied access also a few weeks ago. This was on a Sunday night and the place looked rather busy. There were quite a lot of people waiting in line for the counter to purchase a drink. Among them were farangs (like me) as well as Japanese and some other ethnicities.
The next day however (so on a Monday) I could walk in right away and the place was far less crowded than the night before. Weekends always tend to be more crowded than week days.
I don't think it has anything to do with paying or non paying customers. As far as I know it is mandatory to purchase a drink in an agogo. But I could be wrong there.I think you are probably right. Because all three days that I was there it was very crowded. Since they don't have access to the first floor, it gets very messy on the ground floor. Maybe to facilitate things better, they have the counter outside and insist on drinks being purchased prior to entry.
I don't think it has anything to do with paying or non paying customers. As far as I know it is mandatory to purchase a drink in an agogo. But I could be wrong there.IMHO: Common sense would suggest that anyone entering a bar or a gogo buys a drink, and eventually more if he stays longer time.
Even charity events expects one spends money at the venue...
None of them work for the glory.
There was recently some posts about "evil rumors" that "ladies unable to show I'd" works in the SC gogo's, yesterday one of the LB mamasans in a place went in for the hard sell with a customer I sat next to. She told an entire story about how one of the girls is supposedly 15 but "no problem she can go", her friend was 16 and so on. Other places have "dancing only" girls that gets the same story. Not all stories are true but when they actively spread them themselves it's a case of som nam na if they catch any shit from it.
Edit: A place requiring a drink purchase out side before entering would not get my cash. Some of the places barely have any staff or just some zombies on stage. I would feel cheated if I entered drink in hand to one of those places. Survey first then ordering a drink. I'm there to see girls and if there isn't any don't try to scam drinks on me in the door. Common sense IMHO.
There is reason why they are now asking some potential customers to buy drinks first before being let in. Over the past couple of years, I have witnessed people going inside just to gawk at the ladies and blocking the aisle making it difficult for people to walk and blocking the view of seated customers. Some of them even refuse to take a seat or leave even after approached by the wait staff. Many of these are Chinese nationals who have been flocking to Soi Cowboy in large groups including. Chinese women. I have nothing against the Chinese nationals but this is a fact.
ActionOriented
05-22-14, 13:48
Day 4 of 4
Woke up with in a foul mood partly due to the events of last night and partly since it was my last day in BKK and I was to fly out tonight. Did not feel like stepping out for the usual morning MP session and I stayed at the hotel and only stepped out for a couple of hours to check out Terminal 21 (which was a waste of time). After my friend got in from Samui, we met up at our hotel and I checked out of the hotel and kept my luggage at the counter so that I could pick it up on the way to Suvarnabhumi later. We were at our wits end on the place that we must hit next. I did have several places that I were on my original list of places that I wanted to try out, but my mind was not working and I did not want to bother going to some new place (just one of those days).
So to brainstorm we walked across the road to Nana Plaza and took refuge inside Stumble Inn. We ordered a couple of drinks and while we looked onto the hullabaloo of Nana getting ready for the nights action, we saw quite a few pretty go go girls coming into work (it was still early evening – 6 pm thereabouts). I was not able to track the movements of some of the attractive ones to their respective bars as my vision was restricted by several people within the bar at the time. In any case, the hostesses inside Stumble Inn appeared to be very mature and not worth a ladydrink and a conversation. After some general discussion, we concluded that we could hit Bamboo Massage again for a quickie and thereafter go to Cowboy for a few hours. The plan sounded good. We walked from Nana Plaza to soi 8, Bam wasn't around at the time and the counter was being manned by Koi. She recognized my friend with whom she had been with a couple of days back. She showed us the line up, although there were more girls on display, we did not fancy any of them. Again, we made a perfunctory enquiry regarding the stars, but received an equally vague response to my query. We thanked Koi and exited the establishment, we were standing around on soi 8 and discussing which places we could go next. I had had Tulip, Mango, Som's Haven on my agenda but my friend wanted a hottie and I wasn't very sure if oilies would do the trick (I presumed this of course). Also, I had told him about my experiences at soapies and this piqued his interest.
We took moped taxis to Sukhumvit MRT and rode the train to Huay Khwang. I had given my friend the options that were available near this area, Caeser's, Emmanuelle, Hi-Class etc., but told him that I had my best experience with girls at Nataree. So we went into Nataree and unlike a couple of days back only half the staff was available. The Papasan seemed quite hassled and I asked him the reason for the less number of girls that were available. He pointed towards the tv and says the protests are keeping the girls at home and they are not able to / or not willing to come into work. He seemed so upset that he would not recommend girls he usually does, so another younger Papasan steps in to give us some advice. My friend selected a sideliner which he found interesting and I took a girl from the fishbowl. I paid THB 2,000 for the fishbowl girl and my friend paid THB 2,600 for the sideliner. I had seen Pang on my last visit as well, but had not quite noticed her.
We got onto the elevator and got off at floor 3. I noticed that many of the rooms on this floor now had inflatable slip-and-slide beds, this is something I had never noticed on my earlier visits (have been to Nataree at least 5 times over the last one year). Pang is tall for a Thai and claims she is from Bangkok, has burgundy coloured hair and an amazing rack. Her English was much better than all the girls I had met here in the past and we managed to converse well. When I told her that I would be flying back to India in a few hours she asked me whether it was due to the declaration of an informal curfew (imposition of martial law) and I wasn't aware that it had already happened. I informed her that as per my itinerary I was required to depart today and this was a short trip.
She washed up the general bath area of the room and got the inflatable bed ready and I got an amazing B2 B slip-and-slide after which we entered the tub where she cleaned the meat and veg thoroughly. We moved the proceedings onto the bed where I got a CBJ followed by cowgirl. I could not get enough of her rack, they were sumptuous. A distracting feature she had was a slight (partially hidden) layer of facial hair, which I hadn't noticed in the fishbowl. But her general enthusiasm made up for things and she gave good service for the first 15 minutes thereafter her performance began to flag after she came (or so she said). Nevertheless, we continued for some more time and then I finished off proceedings.
Tipped her THB 300. Wasn't successful in getting a picture with her.
My friend had finished before me and was waiting in the lobby. Once we met up he was very happy, the sideliner he had picked was apparently very hot and since language was an issue, he was more ecstatic that he had managed to get A levels. I was surprised, I had not yet managed to breach the A levels at Nataree and this guy had done it on his first ever trip. Hmm, may be I stopped trying when it may have been available, mental point to be pursued on next visit. My friend did not get a slip-and-slide B2 B.
After Nataree we went over to Cowboy and walked into Suzie Wong. My girl Dee wasn't at work, so she was correct when she mentioned that she works only 2 days a week and that too if she wished to. At Bacarra, saw another cutie number 214, when my friend asked the mamasan to send her over, she enquired and came back and told him that it won't be possible, the reason for not coming over could be anyone's guess. Since we had to leave for the airport shortly we didn't bother waiting around to bar fine any chics from Bacarra and / or SW that night.
This concludes the 4 part report of my most recent trip. I hope to return soon, I have been back home 2 days and I still cannot get over BKK blues. It is, as always, an absolute pleasure to come to Bangkok.
P.S. It appears that today there have been certain political developments which might be a cause for concern for travellers and locals. I do hope fellow members play safe during these turbulent times.
You should have given Annies a try, not so far from Nana Plaza, 5 min walk at most.
El Frances
05-22-14, 14:26
Army imposes curfew from 10 pm and mass transportation closing at 9 pm.
You'd better be quick to pick up a girl tonight and bring her to your room before 10. Hurry up! Ah! Ah!Ah!
ActionOriented
05-22-14, 15:50
You should have given Annies a try, not so far from Nana Plaza, 5 min walk at most.Will try on the next visit, do they have any lookers (7/8's)? Apart from good service, that is one criteria I cannot overcome no matter the quality of service.
There is reason why they are now asking some potential customers to buy drinks first before being let in. Over the past couple of years, I have witnessed people going inside just to gawk at the ladies and blocking the aisle making it difficult for people to walk and blocking the view of seated customers. Some of them even refuse to take a seat or leave even after approached by the wait staff. Many of these are Chinese nationals who have been flocking to Soi Cowboy in large groups including. Chinese women. I have nothing against the Chinese nationals but this is a fact.I actually didn't notice any Chinese in Bacarra (or probably I am not good at differentiating), however, did see a few farang women who had come along to have some fun with their BFs.
Although didn't see any of them bar fine a girl, it would appear that the compulsory buy a drink to enter rule might be targetted towards those who come only to look and see.
Traveler1234
05-22-14, 16:29
Many of these are Chinese nationals who have been flocking to Soi Cowboy in large groups including. Chinese women. I have nothing against the Chinese nationals but this is a fact.You are absolutely correct, they are tourists and just window shopping!
ActionOriented
05-22-14, 16:42
You really need ear plugs in these clubs, with the noise in Rainbow 1, 4, and Bacarra at destructive decibel levels along with many others. As for the dancers who are subjected to this volume on a nearly daily basis, many in later years will be working as deaf mute FL's.
In front of the Nana Hotel.Good one, it is a real possibility. This may just be the future of the Go Go girls (although I hope not, wish no one need suffer this way).
Was surprisingly many hopefuls at the lower sukh looking for punters minutes before the curfew. I'm sure deals could have been made but the thought of being trapped in a hotel room with a provider and no TV to entertain her afterwards. It would probably have ended in a murder charge for either of us.
Was surprisingly many hopefuls at the lower sukh looking for punters minutes before the curfew. I'm sure deals could have been made but the thought of being trapped in a hotel room with a provider and no TV to entertain her afterwards. It would probably have ended in a murder charge for either of us.Almost the situation I'm in. But she's napping.
Sir Lancelot
05-22-14, 18:01
Day 4 of 4I enjoyed your reports, very well written. I never realised soapies were on the menu at Nataree, I shall ask for one next time I take a girl to the counter. Have you visited any of the other massage parlours in the Huay Khwang area? I have always been happy with Nataree and heard a while back that some of the others are more expensive but it would be interesting to hear from someone who has been (I noticed in March that money has been spent outside Emmanuelle so perhaps it might have a resurgence). I checked out the girls on the EZ website and there are some stunners in the pics but I find that often they don't live up to expectations in the flesh (photos out-of-date and Photoshopped heavily). That said, 'Boom' looks quite a handful!
Day 2- Spent most of day sightseeing and shopping. 4 pm got pulled into mp but it was a soapy a couple streets down from Electric blue. It was kind or run down and 15 girls, most 3 to6 but one 8. Mamasan started at 3000 but went down to 1500 plus 150 for coke. Yiky was her name and I had a great 1.5 hr soapy andfull service, my first one. Experience 8.5 . Went into electric blue, lots of beautiful girls dancing, but 700 barfine, decided against it. Beer was only 50 bht, good deal. Stopped by BarBar fetish club, but cover 900 bht...forget it, I can get a st for that much. Went back to Nana during the night I did 3 FL st. Forgot their names but good full service from all of them though they seem to complain a bit I am too big. All were 7's and 8's. 2 of them were 1000 bht each and the last one was 800 as it was getting late. Experience all 6-7. I did stop at Spankys during the night between girls. Great looking girls dancing in g strings or naked. I think beers were 180 bht. The girls would spank each other or the customers with these foam sticks. Didn't hurt a bit. I also stopped at Climax disco 250 bht cover with free drink. There are quite a few girls there and a band playing. The band is not bad, but too loud to have a conversation. I am also not sure which girls are pros and which are just local. I see a 9 and I buy her a drink. She then tells me she is working and 4000 LT and 3000ST. Screw that! I can get 3-5 girls for that. She wasn't that frendly either. Finally went to bed 0430 after last girl.
DAY 3- Jetlag did me in. Woke up 1900! Since my room at DiPlace doesn't have a window, I wasn't evensure what day it was. Went outside and guess what? Military coup day! Most things closed! Walked by nana hotel, still 15 girls around. I picked a cute one but she shows me a piece of paper saying she is deaf and 1500 bht. She was an 8 and worth it but I couldn't see myself doing a deaf girl. I found another one further down. This one was a 9. I agreed to the 1000 price. Damn! While doing her I she she is on her period! There is blood everywhere! I hate that! I put a towel under her and fuck her hard doggy for a long time. Then tell her to leave. I don't even wakl her down like I usually do. Girl 9 experience 3. Funny how that happens. Went out again and stopped at a 7/11 20 meters from hotel and bought some icecream. A girl May stops me and askes if I want a date. She is really pretty 22 face 8 body 7. She is a bit taller than I usually like, but seems to have a good attitude. She asks for 1000 but agrees for 800st. I said if she makes me smile we could do all night. She asks how much. I say 2000. She says yes. Back to my room, lots of kissing and good full service 8 experience. We then go out across the street at strykers for some food and drinks. Burger, fries, thai chicken and rice dish, spicy shrimp and mushroom type soup, 4 vodka drinks, 2 beers all 900 bht. Probably paid too much, but it was good. Back to my place for another round, she is tired and a little drunk so the session was a 6 as she was a little listless. It is a good thing I have a good imagination. It is 0200. May is sleeping and I'm awake writing this. I probably should have done only ST with her, but with the coup and everything closed I didn't think I could do better tonight. I'll do her in the morning if I can get to sleep.
Good one, it is a real possibility. This may just be the future of the Go Go girls (although I hope not, wish no one need suffer this way).My friend picked up a deaf mute in Pattaya once...we didn't believe the mamasan at first when she told us...we tried in vain to prove she could hear...she was really deaf. The morning after my buddy asks me...Did you hear scream last night? Me...no...Buddy...of course not...she's a deaf mute!
I later had to check that off my mongering bucket list when I found one in Angeles who was a deaf mute...Hot Fillipina who couldn't talk and fucked like a rabbit.thought about marrying that girl...55555.
Anyway...I digress...that post just brought back all types of fond memories for me...so...Thank You!
You should have given Annies a try, not so far from Nana Plaza, 5 min walk at most.Annie's is a rundown shithole..and I absolutely fucking love the place! If I had to spend the rest of my life in a single building...without a doubt it would be Annies!
Paul Kausch
05-22-14, 22:40
My friend picked up a deaf mute in Pattaya once...we didn't believe the mamasan at first when she told us...we tried in vain to prove she could hear...she was really deaf. The morning after my buddy asks me...Did you hear scream last night? Me...no...Buddy...of course not...she's a deaf mute!
I later had to check that off my mongering bucket list when I found one in Angeles who was a deaf mute...Hot Fillipina who couldn't talk and fucked like a rabbit.thought about marrying that girl...55555.
Anyway...I digress...that post just brought back all types of fond memories for me...so...Thank You!If this is your thing, a while ago there were posts about ladies who are deaf-mutes hanging out around the Nana parking lot.
If this is your thing, a while ago there were posts about ladies who are deaf-mutes hanging out around the Nana parking lot.No...just an itch that needed to be scratched...but Thanks for the tip. Plus...I have never been a fan of the Nana Hotel freelancer's...just not my scene.
Paul Kausch
05-22-14, 23:37
No...just an itch that needed to be scratched...but Thanks for the tip. Plus...I have never been a fan of the Nana Hotel freelancer's...just not my scene.That's cool. Many of us have exotic tastes; as long as they are legal and everyone is a freely consenting adult nothing wrong with that.
Annies has a website, check it out and decide for yourself. I been there twice and feel it is worth at least a look, there is an Annies thread here you can see too.
ActionOriented
05-23-14, 03:15
I enjoyed your reports, very well written. I never realised soapies were on the menu at Nataree, I shall ask for one next time I take a girl to the counter. Have you visited any of the other massage parlours in the Huay Khwang area? I have always been happy with Nataree and heard a while back that some of the others are more expensive but it would be interesting to hear from someone who has been (I noticed in March that money has been spent outside Emmanuelle so perhaps it might have a resurgence). I checked out the girls on the EZ website and there are some stunners in the pics but I find that often they don't live up to expectations in the flesh (photos out-of-date and Photoshopped heavily). That said, 'Boom' looks quite a handful!Thanks Sir Lancelot. The inflatable mattress B2 b seems like a new thing at Nataree never seen it before. I would suggest you give it a spin next time, but I think the sideline girls will not give a B2 B, so may be you can consider going with a fishbowl girl to get the complete B2 B experience. I have gone into Emmanuelle and Hi-Class sometime last year but the girls you will end up liking will be the model types and they will be highly overpriced. I too am a Nataree fan which assuredly will provide value for money.
IMHO for Ez, if you like any of the girls on their website, call them in advance and ask for the girl to be present at the MP so that you are able to inspect what you will likely be getting into. They have 2 or 3 branches. I made the rookie mistake of going in both days to check the stock that was available at the time and yes pictures are photoshopped, so have to experience ez with a pinch of salt.
ActionOriented
05-23-14, 03:17
Annies has a website, check it out and decide for yourself. I been there twice and feel it is worth at least a look, there is an Annies thread here you can see too.I have seen the website, and that is why I avoided going in because none of them piqued my interest. That said, I have heard a lot of good things about the establishment and will probably try it out on my next visit.
Western787
05-23-14, 07:05
Day 4 of 4
So to brainstorm we walked across the road to Nana Plaza and took refuge inside Stumble Inn. We ordered a couple of drinks and while we looked onto the hullabaloo of Nana getting ready for the nights action, we saw quite a few pretty go go girls coming into work (it was still early evening 6 pm thereabouts). I was not able to track the movements of some of the attractive ones to their respective bars as my vision was restricted by several people within the bar at the time. In any case, the hostesses inside Stumble Inn appeared to be very mature and not worth a ladydrink and a conversation. From Stumble Inn? You can see which clubs Go Go girls go to? Big Dog is the best viewing spot and its even difficult there.
There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's.
ActionOriented
05-23-14, 07:41
From Stumble Inn? You can see which clubs Go Go girls go to? Big Dog is the best viewing spot and its even difficult there.
There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's.I agree, from Stumble Inn one can only see them pass by, can't really make out which joints they are headed to. Big Dogg might have a better vantage point. I am curious about options 2 and 3, can anyone confirm?
Paul Kausch
05-23-14, 07:43
From Stumble Inn? You can see which clubs Go Go girls go to? Big Dog is the best viewing spot and its even difficult there.
There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's.A while back I had a very nice hour of ST that turned into about 2 hours with a girl from Billboard. Good English, very talkative, probably told me more than she should have about some of the unsavory things that went on in the bar, nothing that would directly effect the customers but the ladies sure didn't like it.
Anyway, to get to the point, we were in one of the short time hotel rooms near the bar. The girl told me she lived in the room we were in; and it was apparent she did. I don't know how common that it, but apparently it does happen.
ActionOriented
05-23-14, 07:51
A while back I had a very nice hour of ST that turned into about 2 hours with a girl from Billboard. Good English, very talkative, probably told me more than she should have about some of the unsavory things that went on in the bar, nothing that would directly effect the customers but the ladies sure didn't like it.
Anyway, to get to the point, we were in one of the short time hotel rooms near the bar. The girl told me she lived in the room we were in; and it was apparent she did. I don't know how common that it, but apparently it does happen.Most of the girls I was with were very cagey about confirming where they stayed in Bangkok which could be due to several reasons:
1. They did not stay far away from Nana / Cowboy with unsavoury living quarters;.
2. They did not understand my query (which was in English); or.
3. They were not interested in giving me the necessary information, it wasn't like I would follow them back home.
From Stumble Inn? You can see which clubs Go Go girls go to? Big Dog is the best viewing spot and its even difficult there.
There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's.4. You lost count because you were getting too drunk.
Paul Kausch
05-23-14, 08:40
Most of the girls I was with were very cagey about confirming where they stayed in Bangkok which could be due to several reasons:
1. They did not stay far away from Nana / Cowboy with unsavoury living quarters;.
2. They did not understand my query (which was in English); or.
3. They were not interested in giving me the necessary information, it wasn't like I would follow them back home :DI think living in the short time hotel, this girl felt safe. She was surprisingly candid on matters other than where she lived. I understand there are still girls living upstairs in some of the properties over on Soi Cowboy.
I think living in the short time hotel, this girl felt safe. She was surprisingly candid on matters other than where she lived. I understand there are still girls living upstairs in some of the properties over on Soi Cowboy.A lot of the girls live between Ekkamai and Bearing sharing up to 4 to a room.
Met a girl at Angelwitch some time ago which lived not too far away in Soi Samahan in a studio. She preferred to go there rather than use one of the ST hotels.
Quite a few girls from Soi 24/1 live near Rama IV.
Paul Kausch
05-23-14, 09:24
A lot of the girls live between Ekkamai and Bearing sharing up to 4 to a room.
Met a girl at Angelwitch some time ago which lived not too far away in Soi Samahan in a studio. She preferred to go there rather than use one of the ST hotels.
Quite a few girls from Soi 24/1 live near Rama IV.Ya, Aor told me she lived near the Bearing Station. I noticed she always carried a large shopping bag with toiletries and a few changes of clothes. She was prepared for overnights on any given night and only went home when she had a free night. I expect rent out that far is cheaper.
Any predictions on SC / NEP?
Yesterday anything with a hole for sale closed very early. Strolled past 7/1 and there was a crowd of desperadoes looking for letter E at dr BJ's before curfew cut in.
Another matter, who on the sukh takes lower denomination US notes that superrich rejected? Bound to be someone.
I also stopped at Climax disco 250 bht cover with free drink. There are quite a few girls there and a band playing. The band is not bad, but too loud to have a conversation. I am also not sure which girls are pros and which are just local. I see a 9 and I buy her a drink. She then tells me she is working and 4000 LT and 3000ST. Screw that! I can get 3-5 girls for that. She wasn't that frendly either. Finally went to bed 0430 after last girl.
All the girls at Climax are pros. 100% and way too many of them are asking for 3000 baht st. Crazy but late at night it is one of the few options and I guess that creates demand.
Most of the girls I was with were very cagey about confirming where they stayed in Bangkok which could be due to several reasons:
1. They did not stay far away from Nana / Cowboy with unsavoury living quarters;.
2. They did not understand my query (which was in English); or.
3. They were not interested in giving me the necessary information, it wasn't like I would follow them back home :DNot once have I had a girl be cagey about where she lives in BKK. I expect that the issue was #2.
The inflatable mattress B2 b seems like a new thing at Nataree never seen it before. I don't think it is new. I think that it is something that really only the fishbowl girls are really able to pull off. I've only taken a fishbowl girl once, a few years ago, and the mattress was a main feature.
ActionOriented
05-24-14, 06:51
I don't think it is new. I think that it is something that really only the fishbowl girls are really able to pull off. I've only taken a fishbowl girl once, a few years ago, and the mattress was a main feature.I have taken fishbowl girls in the past as well, however, the inflatable mattresses was a feature missing in the rooms at Nataree. This time I found them there, a welcome change indeed.
I have taken fishbowl girls in the past as well, however, the inflatable mattresses was a feature missing in the rooms at Nataree. This time I found them there, a welcome change indeed.The few times I have been to Nataree I always had a soapy on an air mattress. Always found the service mediocre compared to Annie. Only had one good experience there from the left side fish bowl. Cannot remember her name but it is #40. Blond hair, cute face. She offered BBBJ and 2 pops after I told Papasan to ask the girls who would provide that service.
Darling used to be the star of the soapy massage experience. Big rooms with plenty of space to wriggle around. Unfortunately the low quality of the girls and the annoying habits of the staff have made me stop using them.
ActionOriented
05-24-14, 07:40
I feel cheated now, everyone seems to have been getting the inflatable mattress treatment before I did. I have been patronising the place for a while. In any case, as you have suggested, the other joints might be providing a better B2 B experience. Go to Nataree for the cuties.
The few times I have been to Nataree I always had a soapy on an air mattress. Always found the service mediocre compared to Annie. Only had one good experience there from the left side fish bowl. Cannot remember her name but it is #40. Blond hair, cute face. She offered BBBJ and 2 pops after I told Papasan to ask the girls who would provide that service.
Darling used to be the star of the soapy massage experience. Big rooms with plenty of space to wriggle around. Unfortunately the low quality of the girls and the annoying habits of the staff have made me stop using them.
Western787
05-24-14, 08:31
I think living in the short time hotel, this girl felt safe. She was surprisingly candid on matters other than where she lived. I understand there are still girls living upstairs in some of the properties over on Soi Cowboy.Although not very probable its not impossible that for example some of the Rainbow 4 girls or other go go girls actually sleep on the stage a night, although I suspect some of the rare superstar mega earners are being put up in luxury apartments by sugar daddies, or getting some other kind of freebie luxurious accommodations
In the major soapies like Poseidon, The Lord, and others I wonder how they can just leave all those rooms vacant at night. Its not like Bangkok is going to enforce zoning laws. Note most seem to have their windows completely blocked out making it next to impossible from street level to see if any lights or TVs are on after normal closing times, lets say around 1:30 AM. In any case it would almost seems to be a complete waste of resources to not be using those rooms in some form.
On a side note, what I find most amusing is when a FL to explain "where she works" will often point to the exact location where she usually stands or is seated in a chair at a particular venue as her place of work. For example sometimes girls from Biergarten might say "I work right there" (pointing to the now empty bar stool she just left to walk across the room to talk to you) Same with some Nana hotel parking lot girls, they will sometimes allude to the precise spot where they usually stand and wait for customers as their place of employment, just like they are working at a 7-11 or something. Of course this issue might only come up when an inquiry might be made along the lines "so you work a regular job too"?
While the trend is downhill, Bangkok working girls overall still tend to be very unspoiled relative to western women (P4P or otherwise) and the fact that they often can put up (w/o complaining) with simple living accomodations, and don't seem particularly fazed or bothered by considering a particular bar stool as their place of employment, actually impresses me. Even the Go Go's and regular bars, now and then when you run into a true hottie, your usual assumptions many times will often be proven wrong, as these girls (all things equal when compared to western P4P girls) are often far more down to earth than you might expect. Yes, certain negative things can often go along with very hot women, but with Thai women, there can be a lot of surprises on the positive side.
Sir Lancelot
05-24-14, 11:56
In the major soapies like Poseidon, The Lord, and others I wonder how they can just leave all those rooms vacant at night. Its not like Bangkok is going to enforce zoning laws. Note most seem to have their windows completely blocked out making it next to impossible from street level to see if any lights or TVs are on after normal closing times, lets say around 1:30 AM. In any case it would almost seems to be a complete waste of resources to not be using those rooms in some form.Cristins in Phuket is a very similar set-up to some of these massage parlours in Bangkok. On my first ever trip to Thailand I went there and had a fantastic session with a cutie called Annie. I asked her if she'd like to meet up later that night and we exchanged phone numbers and agreed to meet in a nightclub. We partied for a few hours but then she told me that she had to be back at the massage parlour by 2 am as that is where the girls slept and they have a curfew. She told me that girls are fined if they stay out too late. I walked her back and noticed that there was a small security booth next to the entrance and the guard seemed to be ticking off the names of girls as they returned.
Next day I texted Annie asking if she would like to stay at my hotel for long-time that night. She told me to meet her outside Cristins when it closed at 11 pm. I sat on a step and watched all of the girls filing out and then last of all Annie appeared with the security guard, who agreed to turn a blind eye on her not returning at 2 am for 2500 baht (Annie's price at Cristins was 2800 as she was regarded a 'superstar' Annie explained that she got the lion-share of this so I agreed.
It makes sense that the rooms in these massage parlours wouldn't be left vacant overnight. I suspect the cleaners get accommodation too.
this report is a bit out of date. i had intended to supplement it with an update from a trip next week but that's now been postponed by an overly nervous client!
two visits each to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and dr. bjs on my last trip to bangkok in march. my observation was that things were fairly desperate in terms of reduced business. at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) there was something of a clamour for attention, which was not my experience on previous visits and i was even offered a very good deal for two girls, which i didn't take as i had been building up the tank before the trip and felt i'd not last very long with two eager mouths working on me.
both times at loli's were as always. not especially good looking girls, more the homely types, but friendly and competent service all round.
two trips to dr. bjs too. have to walk past eden to get there and always feel a twinge of nostalgia. may have to stop in for old times' sake! first round at dr bjs and picked a fine-featured light skinned girl with short-cropped spiky hair. she recognised me before i did (which is quite flattering) but a minute after picking her i realised i'd had two previous encounters with her at annie's, the last being a couple of years ago. think she's become more handsome with age, actually, and the short hair gave her a raunchier look. anyway, it was certainly a happy reunion:0).
second round was with a fantastic darker coloured girl (think she was cambodian). she was like a fucking hoover this girl (or sucking hoover, perhaps?) with some of the best deep throat skills i've ever come across. tasty little fuckmuffin she was, too, and i think on my next visit i will have to think with the wrong head and pay an absurd amount of money to barfine her! pity i can't remember either one's letter or number so i'll just have to hope the latter is around and the former not when i go back, as i'm a soft-touch for the "old relationship" angle so i'd be hard-pressded to not pick the former one if i come across her again.
From Stumble Inn? You can see which clubs Go Go girls go to? Big Dog is the best viewing spot and its even difficult there.
There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's.That is a thought I made too (and I drink no alcohol, so no point 4 for me). We all know there are tens and tens of girls working in all gogo's. Bars mention (each) at least hundred in their premises, but that is for the marketing department. Even if some numbers are overrated and even if we refer to the whole workforce who not necessarily has to show every given night (LT BF, sick, home etc) what we see passing through the entry port from 6 to 8 or even 9 doesn't match with what you then see inside. I don't even mention that a good 30% of the passing girls do not look like possible gogo girls (and they can't even all be waitresses)... For the sake of the argument and statics you don't even see walking by the number of LB's filling those 3-4 places fully dedicated to that lifestyle.
By all means there is not sufficient space in the ST rooms in NEP to host them.
All this regardless of curfew as my observations refer to a few months ago.
The numbers start to be more logical at 2 am, when bars are closing and the workforce flows out, accounting that some numbers are missing as BF's took place and girls are already out for ST or LT's.
. In any case it would almost seems to be a complete waste of resources to not be using those rooms in some form.The waste is in case you usually rent those rooms for a price and you can't.
I don't see it a waste, from an owner point of view, not to have rooms occupied by girls in case the rooms are not used by ST customers.
I don't think the girls will pay for the use of the rooms. On the contrary, if used, the rooms will need cleaning etc before ening out back in service for ST use by customers. Too much of a hassle for no money.
I have a friend who lives in a studio and pays 100 b. A night (on monthly basis), so that is the benchmark, even adding saved transportation costs. Will the landlord rent ST rooms befor 150 night in the best case scenario? Then the girls should not have any other rent to be paid. Unlikely scenario.
I generally like to stop by here once on every Bangkok trip as a change of pace...
I see that it's closed now. Strangely they had just moved around a lot of the interior, and in my opinion, really messed up the flow of the place. A few months later poof. Seemed to be doing a fair amount of business still, so I wonder why it's gone.
Have the quasi-Russian girls settled on an alternative venue for themselves yet?
Wondering if it really matters over the next while with the curfew anyway.
I have taken fishbowl girls in the past as well, however, the inflatable mattresses was a feature missing in the rooms at Nataree. This time I found them there, a welcome change indeed.The mattresses weren't kept in the rooms but were fetched as we were getting ready.
ActionOriented
05-25-14, 05:16
The mattresses weren't kept in the rooms but were fetched as we were getting ready.Apparently they are now kept in the rooms, however, it may be very difficult to get the sideliners to give a B2 B. If I had only known that they fetched the (hidden) mattresses upon request in the past, hmm.
Yesterday in my hurry to beat the curfew deadline I zeroed in on a lady called Ehm with red designer glasses. I had another really friendly lady ready willing and able but stupidly I decided to check out the other ladies.
Anyway this was a pretty close to a disaster in my book, did not want to kiss and I had to beg for real blow job without a condom and then she complained I was too big. Then all kinds of drama about how much after agreeing in the bar. I refused to budge and thne encouraged her to leave early.
If you see her (she is the only one with glasses) AVOID her.
Western787
05-25-14, 07:55
I don't see it a waste, from an owner point of view, not to have rooms occupied by girls in case the rooms are not used by ST customers.
Exploiting whatever resources a business brings to the table, is simply good business practice. Obviously if Poseidon or The Lord has all these rooms totally vacant at least half the day, and some probably most of the day (and even worse this year with the downturn etc), then they are going to exploit that so long as the additional marginal costs of such utilization are minimal. All things equal if they can pay the girls less by offering them free rooms, then they will do it, and based on what Sir Lancelot says about Phuket, that could well be the practice. I suspect most of the cars you see outside the The Lord during the day belong to the massage girls and other staff living right there, or perhaps out of town girls visiting for 3.5 week stints.
Western787
05-25-14, 08:36
Yesterday in my hurry to beat the curfew deadline I zeroed in on a lady called Ehm with red designer glasses. I had another really friendly lady ready willing and able but stupidly I decided to check out the other ladies.
Anyway this was a pretty close to a disaster in my book, did not want to kiss and I had to beg for real blow job without a condom and then she complained I was too big. Then all kinds of drama about how much after agreeing in the bar. I refused to budge and thne encouraged her to leave early.
If you see her (she is the only one with glasses) AVOID her.Probably wears glasses as a disguise to remain annonymous. Consider that not a single person ever figured out that Clark Kent was actually Superman, the fake eyeglasses fooling everyone.
Western787
05-25-14, 08:39
I generally like to stop by here once on every Bangkok trip as a change of pace...
I see that it's closed now. Strangely they had just moved around a lot of the interior, and in my opinion, really messed up the flow of the place. A few months later poof. Seemed to be doing a fair amount of business still, so I wonder why it's gone.
Have the quasi-Russian girls settled on an alternative venue for themselves yet?
Wondering if it really matters over the next while with the curfew anyway.A major documentary on (Russian-uzbekian) trafficking prominently featured the club. That may have been the final tipping point.
A major documentary on (Russian-uzbekian) trafficking prominently featured the club. That may have been the final tipping point.It is always amazing how things get activated by these sort of happenings (documentary) just as LE needs to watch TV what goes on in their back yard. TV reporters get into things that a army of investigating policemen of any kind, plain clothes, skilled, trained, imported from other regions, supported by intelligence and means (I don't refer to space ship technology or NCIS series but to simple police means) can't access and achieve?
I honestly never believe this. Matter of the fact is that they all know but turn their faces elsewhere for both tea money and for the sake of the hidden underground economy that, at the end of the day, sustain overground economies. And, maybe, I underline maybe, better have some sort of known crime than worst crime.
When things come up too public, and a TV series is probably the broadest way to are things public as can also slip out of the country if the documentary is well done, they can't turn their faces anymore.. To save face.
Take a place as Dubai... A kind of mongering capital in the heart of a Muslim area. Tens and tens of WG of different shapes, nationalities, actions...
All tolerated till things become uncomfortable for the powers who should not allow that.
Whatever we know.. Is far more known already by LE, let's not ignore this.
Probably wears glasses as a disguise to remain annonymous. Consider that not a single person ever figured out that Clark Kent was actually Superman, the fake eyeglasses fooling everyone.That must be the answer to your query in post #28516 too. A lot of the girls wear fake glasses so you don't recognize them as working girls!
(post #28516: There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's).
But seriously, I think the answer is number 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm because they want to socialize with their friends, do their hair and make up (we all know how long that can take!) etcetera. I guess for most of these girls the club is their whole life or at least a major part of it so they tend to hang out with each other.
Lord Necros
05-25-14, 13:56
But seriously, I think the answer is number 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm because they want to socialize with their friends, do their hair and make up (we all know how long that can take!) etcetera. I guess for most of these girls the club is their whole life or at least a major part of it so they tend to hang out with each other.My guess too. I went to NEP around 6 and found the place was chock full of girls. But pretty much no tourists. Girls were making up, chatting with each other. There was the air of a carnival about to start up.
That must be the answer to your query in post #28516 too. A lot of the girls wear fake glasses so you don't recognize them as working girls!
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But seriously, I think the answer is number 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm because they want to socialize with their friends, do their hair and make up (we all know how long that can take!) etcetera.I have been there also at 5-5.30 pm and didn't see much traffic either...
Some living in the gogo? Where? I can't see much space for "permanent" living / sleeping conditions even if "just a mattress".
Paul Kausch
05-25-14, 14:49
Stickman's weekly column reports no army presence on lower Sukhumvit. Bars in Nana Plaza are staying open past curfew. Taxis are running past curfew. Climax is staying open until 5 am.
Western787
05-25-14, 19:31
Stickman's weekly column reports no army presence on lower Sukhumvit. Bars in Nana Plaza are staying open past curfew. Taxis are running past curfew. Climax is staying open until 5 am.The big question. When will Stickman be turning himself into authorities?
Western787
05-25-14, 19:53
I have been there also at 5-5.30 pm and didn't see much traffic either...
Some living in the gogo? Where? I can't see much space for "permanent" living / sleeping conditions even if "just a mattress".Air mattresses no doubt, and being skilled blow job artists blowing them up each night is easy.
Thais are used to adversity and hardship. Consider that at Rainbow 4 among other places, the girls before using the ladies room, will often be seen borrowing a single sheet of paper from a toilet paper roll kept stageside. Rainbow 4 apparently too cheap to actually provide toilet paper in the rest room for the girls.
Paul Kausch
05-25-14, 19:54
The big question. When will Stickman be turning himself into authorities?Is he a person of interest? Is he an interesting person. ;)
I generally like to stop by here once on every Bangkok trip as a change of pace...
I see that it's closed now. Strangely they had just moved around a lot of the interior, and in my opinion, really messed up the flow of the place. A few months later poof. Seemed to be doing a fair amount of business still, so I wonder why it's gone.
Have the quasi-Russian girls settled on an alternative venue for themselves yet?
Wondering if it really matters over the next while with the curfew anyway.Go to MIXX. It's in the basement on the north side of Ploenchit just east of the Intercontinental Hotel lobby. Things didn't get rolling there until about 1:00 AM, and I don't think they even opened until 10:00 PM, so the curfew may indeed have closed them down temporarily.
Stickman's weekly column reports no army presence on lower Sukhumvit. Bars in Nana Plaza are staying open past curfew. Taxis are running past curfew. Climax is staying open until 5 am.Last night Cowboy was still going at 23:30. Most, if not all, bars were open while Friday night the coyote bars were most all closed. But other than Baccarat, very few customers. Great market for us buyers.
Western787
05-26-14, 07:04
Sort of brings to mind Woody Allen's comment in Annie Hall: "Doc, uh, my brother's crazy; he thinks he's a chicken." And, uh, the doctor says, "Well, why don't you turn him in?" The guy says, "I would, but I need the eggs.".
I can only agree with previous posters that there is some diamonds hidden in this place. There seems to be a bit more idiots with bad attitudes these days but ignore everyone close to the entrance and you are golden. I do have a thing for the dollfaced older models and there are plenty of those. I picked up one that looked so good for her age that the LB radar beeped a bit but I threw the dice and it paid off.
She was a bit doubtful of my nonaxmurdering status but after she showered and proved not to have a dick I managed to win her over with some flattening. After she thawed she proved to be exactly what I expected, a lady with experience and a will to use it. She fucked like a demon for what felt like forever. A younger bint would have started crying well before that from burn marks in the money maker. A bit of kamagra and gin tonic kills my ability to unload for some reason. With a bit of determination it got through. Not overly GFE but enough, she was genuinely worried from the curfew so I followed her out and sent her along in a cab. Living experience trumps baby face yet again. The trouble is finding those that aren't worn down and bitter from the work.
I can only agree with previous posters that there is some diamonds hidden in this place. There seems to be a bit more idiots with bad attitudes these days but ignore everyone close to the entrance and you are golden. I do have a thing for the dollfaced older models and there are plenty of those. I picked up one that looked so good for her age that the LB radar beeped a bit but I threw the dice and it paid off.
She was a bit doubtful of my nonaxmurdering status but after she showered and proved not to have a dick I managed to win her over with some flattening. After she thawed she proved to be exactly what I expected, a lady with experience and a will to use it. She fucked like a demon for what felt like forever. A younger bint would have started crying well before that from burn marks in the money maker. A bit of kamagra and gin tonic kills my ability to unload for some reason. With a bit of determination it got through. Not overly GFE but enough, she was genuinely worried from the curfew so I followed her out and sent her along in a cab. Living experience trumps baby face yet again. The trouble is finding those that aren't worn down and bitter from the work.The Beer Garden doesn't have much going for it but to the best of my knowledge no LB's are allowed.
She was a bit doubtful of my nonaxmurdering status What does 'nonaxmurdering' mean? Can't find it anywhere.
What does 'nonaxmurdering' mean? Can't find it anywhere.Sorry, I figured it out. I guess you meant 'non-axe-murdering'!
Western787
05-27-14, 08:32
The Beer Garden doesn't have much going for it but to the best of my knowledge no LB's are allowed.Seems pretty good to me. Decent western pop tunes w / o the jet engine decibel level conducive for good conversation, lots of girls smiling at you, some waving to you, sometimes even tapping the seat next to them gesturing you to come over, staff extremely appreciative of tips for drinks, the requsite one drink upon arrival is approx one third the cost of drink in a Go Go, no mamasans pressuring you, no pushing for a 2nd drink, no barfines. Spacious size, mega sized TV screen, very laid back,a lot of customer and freelancer interaction with lots of joking and laughing, electric plugs to recharge cellphones, food available, pool tables upstairs, girls generally average but some kind of hot, and now and then some real cuties show up. Certainly nothing like it in the United States. Europe? I am not sure. Overall I'd guess 80% of the freelancers in there attempt to make it a positive experience for patrons, even ones that might be a bit depressed. Biggest problem I noticed is that given the girls are sitting on bar stools, you sometimes can't tell the height, so lets say you might see a cute girl, but when she stands up she's not far above midget height. In terms of pure entertainment value alone (without taking out) it certainly worth the 50 to 60 bahts to buy water or coke or whatever to hang out there for an hour or two. Some of the younger girls up front if they are with their girlfriends can go into "saving face" mode and can get sassy, but generally I even find most of them polite also. Going way up back on the right side, the girls may not be as cute, but some of the Isaan types can certainly make an interesting pitch. At various times i've run across interesting office type girls, looking like they had just come from work, and generally they are alone.
FreebieFan
05-27-14, 09:56
,a lot of customer and freelancer interaction with lots of joking and laughing, electric plugs to recharge cellphones, food available, pool tables upstairs, girls generally average but some kind of hot, and now and then some real cuties show up. Certainly nothing like it in the United States. Europe? I am not sure. Overall I'd guess 80% of the freelancers in there attempt to make it a positive experience for patrons, even ones that might be a bit depressed. Biggest problem I noticed is that given the girls are sitting on bar stools, you sometimes can't tell the height, so lets say you might see a cute girl, but when she stands up she's not far above midget height. In terms of pure entertainment value alone (without taking out) it certainly worth the 50 to 60 bahts to buy water or coke or whatever to hang out there for an hour or two.o ", but generally I even find most of them polite also. Going way up back on the right side, the girls may not be as cute, but some of the Isaan types can certainly make an interesting pitch. At various times i've run across interesting office type girls, looking like they had just come from work, and generally they are alone.On last trip there, I had slipped on one of the uneven pavements (and BKK had hundreds of those) and had twisted my ankle quite badly.
I could see it was already swollen and getting darker.
Walked in BierGarten, get a seat at bar, explain my problem, and within a minute one friendly barlady has got a plastic bag filled with ice and after 30 minutes I'm semi mobile. She was well tipped later.
The lady sitting next to me did a good job of showing sympathy and helping to keep the bag in place and she got a drink too.
And got more than a drink much later in the evening after I had limped around Nana and Cowboy.
Paul Kausch
05-27-14, 15:50
The Bangkok Post reports: "The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) on Tuesday night relaxed the six-day old nationwide curfew by three hours, announcing a new curfew order will be enforced from midnight to 4 am, effective Wednesday.".
There is a large "lollipop" banner on a small sub soi to soi 11. You go all the way from sukh, turn left at the 7-11 and right at the fenix place.
I tried to check it out but it was dark. When I have been driving past theres been a group of dudes hanging out outside. Any one know if it's the same as the soi 10 location or a gay place? This map link might work: https://goo.gl/maps/w8hNG some very eager massage girls in the start of the subsoi.
The Bangkok Post reports: "The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) on Tuesday night relaxed the six-day old nationwide curfew by three hours, announcing a new curfew order will be enforced from midnight to 4 am, effective Wednesday.".Well that is good news. I wonder if bars can now operate okay And what time everyone would leave. I like to stay in a Hotel very close by. LOL I always preferred to arrive at bars early anyway. After midnight, the best talent was always gone.
A bit of kamagra and gin tonic kills my ability to unload for some reason. With a bit of determination it got through. Kamagra is not something that overcomes alcohol. If you find that alcohol reduces your feeling, Kamagra will only make that a bit worse. The two do not mix very well at all.
I prefer to do my drinking after the sex is already done, as alcohol seriously affects my abilities. Its like a dick semi-anaesthetic for me. Cough medicine is even worse. After that, could hardly get it up at all. Before sex I drink soda water, or maybe diet coke. Gin & Tonics later.
Save the Kamagra for when have been seriously over-doing the sex or when you want to make fuck-parties with multiple girls, and have to make several changes of condoms. LOL.
Make sure you use easy on condoms, like Durex Comfort.
I never use Kamagra with the girlfriend as I reckon she might notice something was different. E.g. Why are you taking so long to cum? I usually don't know long in advance when I am going to get one with the GF anyway. When opportunity arises, I best take it quickly or she might fall asleep.
Second recommendation for durex comforts I have gotten today so I will have to look in to that, thanks. The brand I have now makes a second pop almost impossible. Going raw would solve it but that's not on the table. I just nibble a tiny bit on the blue pill each time, one tablet can last me a week of hard work. Just for some edge. I will try to claim I pray to mecca next time I go to SC so I can stay on the cola without death stares from the servers. That or choose early.
Member #4698
05-27-14, 19:49
The best condom I ever used was Sagami 0.02, but they are expensive and the regular size is tight on western dicks. Get the large size when ordering. The great thing about these polyurethane condoms is the efficient way they conduct heat. You feel her pussy so much more.
On my recent trip, I went through a travel tin of 40 One: ZeroThin condoms and I liked them. They are made from very thin lubricated latex. They felt light and almost as good as the Sagami .02, plus they are a hell of a lot cheaper. I bought them at Costco.
Paul Kausch
05-27-14, 22:06
The best condom I ever used was Sagami 0.02I'm also a big fan of the polyurethane condoms. I buy Okamoto 0.02 EX polyurethane condoms from Amazon. Last time I checked a pack of 6 was US $9. These are the large size (hence the EX) which are snug but not uncomfortable on me. I'm just a little larger than average, so you guys who are hung like a horse may have a problem. Some guys complain they are difficult to put on. I find making sure you penis is dry and not dripping with saliva helps. Natty accurately describes the main advantage. It also feels better to the ladies. The heat transfer works both ways. I've had girls tell me it doesn't feel like I'm wearing a condom. The only difference I notice compared to not wearing a condom is I don't feel the woman's wetness.
I'm also a big fan of the polyurethane condoms. I buy Okamoto 0.02 EX polyurethane condoms from Amazon. Last time I checked a pack of 6 was US $9. These are the large size (hence the EX) which are snug but not uncomfortable on me. I'm just a little larger than average, so you guys who are hung like a horse may have a problem. Some guys complain they are difficult to put on. I find making sure you penis is dry and not dripping with saliva helps. Natty accurately describes the main advantage. It also feels better to the ladies. The heat transfer works both ways. I've had girls tell me it doesn't feel like I'm wearing a condom. The only difference I notice compared to not wearing a condom is I don't feel the woman's wetness.Actually I find that putting some lube on your johnson before applying the condom does the trick. It increases sensation, less chance of chaffing, and the condom is far less likely to break. And no, it does not seem to increase the chance that it will slip off.
Paul Kausch
05-28-14, 04:01
Actually I find that putting some lube on your johnson before applying the condom does the trick. It increases sensation, less chance of chaffing, and the condom is far less likely to break. And no, it does not seem to increase the chance that it will slip off.Thanks for the suggestion. Do you use water-based or a silicon-based lube? Or does it not matter?
I'm also a big fan of the polyurethane condoms. I buy Okamoto 0.02 EX polyurethane condoms from Amazon. Last time I checked a pack of 6 was US $9. These are the large size (hence the EX) which are snug but not uncomfortable on me. I'm just a little larger than average, so you guys who are hung like a horse may have a problem. Some guys complain they are difficult to put on. I find making sure you penis is dry and not dripping with saliva helps. Natty accurately describes the main advantage. It also feels better to the ladies. The heat transfer works both ways. I've had girls tell me it doesn't feel like I'm wearing a condom. The only difference I notice compared to not wearing a condom is I don't feel the woman's wetness.Try Lifestyles Skyn. They're made from polyisoprene, not polyurethane. I hate condoms, but of all the ones I've tried these seem the best overall for sensation.
I'll scare up some of the Okamotos. They sound interesting.
Paul Kausch
05-28-14, 04:44
Try Lifestyles Skyn. They're made from polyisoprene, not polyurethane. I hate condoms, but of all the ones I've tried these seem the best overall for sensation.
I'll scare up some of the Okamotos. They sound interesting.And your recommendation also sounds interesting. Thanks!
Here are some reviews which range from meh to enthusiastic.
http://www.condomdepot.com/reviews/detail.cfm/pid/3281
the beer garden is often reviewed in less than favorable terms, so i'll offer a different picture for those that might have tastes similar to mine. being somewhat older, i find little connection with 20 year old girls. ... yes, the bodies can be beautiful, but the connection just never seems to be there -- for me at least. my preferred age range is 35 to 45. not everyone's cup of tea, i agree. it is mine, however.
that's where the beer garden comes in. i'm 5 for 5 there during my most recent two trips to bkk. i like to get a beer, sit at a table, and scope out the scene. usually there are several of the older, slim women that appeal to me. in fact, almost all the women there are "older". given a little time, a few eye contacts are made. conversations develop. compatibilities are checked out. drinks are shared. then, off we go. always seems to be 1,000 to 1,500 for st. i don't negotiate. most have other jobs and do this part time to supplement their income. i like that also.
i've been visiting the bier garden for almost 2 decades; it's a great place to while away an hour or two in the afternoon, have a few (reasonably priced) drinks, not be pestered to continuously buy more drinks, read the bkk post, and check out the changing decor. if nothing is compelling, a quick trip down the alley to soi 5 and foodland's lunch counter for some decent grub, then back for a return check on the current decor. that's the nice thing about the bg, a constant ebb and flow of potential. even if my primary plan is to visit an mp, annies, addicts, mango, tulip, etc., or maybe sol, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), or som's place, i find myself stepping off the sky train at the nana station first, just to check out the scene at the bg. after all, it's not that far from the sky train's stairs... and in the thai climate, so very important to keep yourself hydrated without breaking the bank.
i too like the chance to survey, a chance to chat and gauge attitude, unlike an mp's perfunctory lineup. it might not be the known menu of an mp, but that's what conversations are for. and as western787 points out, given the music volume, the conversation is not a screaming match into each other's ears as it can be in the go-go bars, and you're not being pestered for lady drinks while doing so. yes, there's no a/c, but the rotating fans provide just enough of a breeze as they pan across you to keep it bearable. and the mix of decors is refreshing: some moonlighting from legit jobs, some ex-bg's, some whose office is the bg...
seems pretty good to me. ... overall i'd guess 80% of the freelancers in there attempt to make it a positive experience for patrons, even ones that might be a bit depressed. ... at various times i've run across interesting office type girls, looking like they had just come from work, and generally they are alone.certainly been my experience. not saying there haven't been, but i can't remember any with a "pump and dump" attitude. again, the benefits of being able to take your time and chat, beneficial to both parties...
i do have a thing for the dollfaced older models and there are plenty of those. i picked up one that looked so good for her age that the lb radar beeped a bit but i threw the dice and it paid off.
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living experience trumps baby face yet again. the trouble is finding those that aren't worn down and bitter from the work.brought a smile to my face ... my last visit to the bg, couple of months ago, similar experience with a mid-thirties doll faced model. was trying to catch a profile view to check for any 'apple remains, and that rack was throwing up the lb cautions. finally nodded, and she came over, voice in pitches that were within range. very flirty, in a dress that was amazing in it's ability to provide barely decent cover while she was sitting on the bar stool, allowing both the rack and legs to be highlighted. still, a small sigh of relief that once in the st hotel room, no additional weight. and like you say, experience counts, very nice chat about thailand in between very pleasant rounds. business, for sure, but a lot of fun. might have been st, but she didn't make it seem so...
the type i seem to find are the ones that are easy to talk to, will laugh at what you say, will return phone calls, will be happy with the money paid and will probably tidy up your room and provide a decent massage before the main event also.what i liked about the bars in dubai, the ability to easily check the attitude. likewise at the bg, though i prefer my massage between rounds.
Thanks for the suggestion. Do you use water-based or a silicon-based lube? Or does it not matter?Just whatever I buy here in LOS. Usually "For Fun" brand.
Try Lifestyles Skyn. They're made from polyisoprene, not polyurethane. I hate condoms, but of all the ones I've tried these seem the best overall for sensation.
I'll scare up some of the Okamotos. They sound interesting.Sad that we don't have more choice here in BKK.
Sad that we don't have more choice here in BKK.Yeah, I really feel sorry for you. So many girls to screw and so little choice of condoms, LOL!
It's so much better here in the Western world where it's the other way around, LOL.
delayed report, from late march 2014:
had read about the place, good reviews, figured i'd give it a try, week day, mid-afternoon. certainly familiar with suda restaurant, many a good meal there. couple of girls sitting outside, 2 good looking ones mesmerized by their mobiles, a 3rd "not-my-type" pondering life. figured i'd walk in, see if any inside as it was rather hot outside, at least for me. for some reason, i was thinking the entrance to the place was up a flight of stairs, like patpong's upper floor bj bars, but no, the bar is ground floor, business conducted 1 flight up. nice looking bar, not the tattered look of so many others. unfortunately, no one inside, but ringing the counter bell brought 1 girl (som?) to the counter from the back. i checked the beer price, and ordered one. as i was sitting down, joined by one of the girls from outside, the one who had not been on her phone and the one i had no interest in (of course...).
she sat down, making conversation, no push for a lady drink, no push for business. given i knew the situation, told her no thanks, why waste her time and her place in the queue? hostess comes over, thinking i'm perhaps unfamiliar with the raison the'tre for the bar, a to the point "this is a bj bar". i explained that i was familiar with the concept, but just wanted a beer. also asked how i had found the bar ("common knowledge"). hostess continued bit of a soft sell for the bar's possibilities, and when i mentioned i was more interested in heading home for a shower, she said that was also possible ... however, with the present company, i wasn't interested. hostess left, and my companion, sensing the drift, nicely excused herself and left; class.
figured i'd just head home for said shower. paid for the beer, and headed out. to my eyes, best looking one still busy on her mobile, but ... hey, it's office hours. asked if she was busy, which given my earlier pass on her co-worker, perhaps she did not fully comprehend. a "you have time for me?" also drew rather a blank stare, so i switched to the direct approach, "we go upstairs". that, she understood. back inside, hostess probably having some thoughts on crazy falangs, and up we went.
small room, but certainly better than sol's back room, and though it didn't have a dr bj's sink extension for washing your package (which i think is unnecessary anyway) nor "chair", the girl proved that sanitation could be easily performed in a standard sink, and the bench worked just fine. pants dropped, and a decent bj received. however, a similar complaint to dr bj's: though she seemed nicely endowed, a distinction that gave her an advantage with me, they remained covered. no visual stimuli. which, for me, anyway, is why sol is still #1. my experience there, as standard procedure, the girls there will open / pull up top and bra, providing not only some visual stimuli but also some tactile stimulation. hell, the now defunct dive rose bar girls understood that ... yes, i could have asked her, or inquired with the hostess about upgrades, but more the principle. why i fly asian airlines rather than us ones: they do the little extras unbidden...
task completed, downstairs, paid the tab, with a small tip for the girl. thing is, nothing special, same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), same as dr bj's... haven't yet tried the bj bar around the corner from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), though i suspect similar... while the bar is tastefully done, as the hostess pointed out, it's reason is upstairs. leaving, did see at least one other "i should try" girl outside, so there is reason to return, especially if there is nothing going on at the bier garten (yes, apples and oranges)... but haven't seen anything that would dissuade me from the extra sky train travel time to the sol if i'm really in the mood, even with a rush hour change at siam...
task completed, downstairs, paid the tab, with a small tip for the girl. thing is, nothing special, same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), same as dr bj's... haven't yet tried the bj bar around the corner from [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), though i suspect similar... while the bar is tastefully done, as the hostess pointed out, it's reason is upstairs. leaving, did see at least one other "i should try" girl outside, so there is reason to return, especially if there is nothing going on at the bier garten (yes, apples and oranges)... but haven't seen anything that would dissuade me from the extra sky train travel time to the sol if i'm really in the mood, even with a rush hour change at siam...afterskool in soi cowboy isn't too bad a bj bar, although they service you right at the end of the bar, so if you're shy then it's not the place for you. i usually stay around there. haven't been to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or kangaroo bar for a while though, i'm just very lazy and can't be bothered going too far. from my base. most of the times i've been to afterskool the girls are happy to go topless.
Yeah, I really feel sorry for you. So many girls to screw and so little choice of condoms, LOL!
It's so much better here in the Western world where it's the other way around, LOL.You can always move over here. Although it is a bit uncertain at the present time.
i did soms a few days ago (a few times this month also) and there might been some decline in looks among the crew from last year. som seems to have become more bitchy in running the place and that might explain it. every time i go in there is always some one following me in and checking if chit chat is required or if upstairs is desired right away. either way has never been a problem. service has always been good. nothing "magical" about the place though. it's just a bit cleaner locales. kasalong is clean now but i think they are in decline. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is well, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). looks like crap but no sewage smell these days at least.
Paul John36
05-28-14, 23:11
afterskool in soi cowboy isn't too bad a bj bar, although they service you right at the end of the bar, so if you're shy then it's not the place for you. i usually stay around there. haven't been to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s or kangaroo bar for a while though, i'm just very lazy and can't be bothered going too far. from my base. most of the times i've been to afterskool the girls are happy to go topless.great place next to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), good looking girls and good service. they all peform the same so have been well trained. can't wait to return.
Bartchamdo
05-29-14, 08:25
i did soms a few days ago (a few times this month also) and there might been some decline in looks among the crew from last year. som seems to have become more bitchy in running the place and that might explain it. every time i go in there is always some one following me in and checking if chit chat is required or if upstairs is desired right away. either way has never been a problem. service has always been good. nothing "magical" about the place though. it's just a bit cleaner locales. kasalong is clean now but i think they are in decline. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is well, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). looks like crap but no sewage smell these days at least.som's has dropped in quality. there has been a big turnover in staff and often the new staff seems inexperienced. service is hit or miss. som no longer gives me recommendations, like she did last year. i've been giving more of my business to kasalong.
kasalong has only been in business for 2 or 3 months, so i wouldn't say they're "in decline". give them a while to attract some regular customers and then lose them and we can say it's in decline. it's a pleasant place and i've tried two ladies there. both were very talented.
great place next to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), good looking girls and good service. they all perform the same so have been well trained. can't wait to return.i'll give them a try when i'm there at the end of june.
Paul John36
05-29-14, 12:01
and it is a little better service than [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) cubicle with a sink you get washed down before the deed. you still get to her slurping over the top of the cubicle.
i'll give them a try when i'm there at the end of june.
Hi guys!
These are the fetish clubs I've heard about. I'm actually interested in having an in- or outcall with one of these girls, a slave actually. What their websites don't say, is whether multiple shots can be had and especially what all these girls provide. FS, BBBJ and anal sex would be great. Has any of you guys got experience with these clubs or other ones?
http://barbarfetishclub.com/
http://www.demoniabangkok.com/dominas_demonia_bangkok.html
http://www.sm-bangkok.com/
This place is a meeting place for MILF / moms in their late 20's - 30's, some even in 40's, most of them could talk in English and betray maturity in communication due to age. You may mark your favourite while sipping a beer thus has chance to make appropriate deal. Typicaly she may demand 3 k bath for a full nighter. It will do well to ponder on a fact that afterall she is a WG who is out there to make money while conserving her energies. If you pay all money in advance she may not last till morning. One zuch decent looking and good communicator accomapanied me to hotel room, she was more interested in soft talk, beer etc more than actual sex! Atlast she decided to leave after 1.15 hr of hectic exercise albeit at reduced money of 2 k.
Looks- 7/10.
Body- 8/10.
Attitude-6/10.
Damage- 2000 + 200 taxi money it was curfew time thdn at 11.45 pm.
The older names like Nataree are saddled with older babes in her 30's,Aniees has changed its buisness style, some setup have simply grown olde needing renovation! Therefore based on advise of a friend I decided to try it. But you possibly can't rely on any taxidriver or 2 wheeler rider as many of they will simply cheat you and drop you at their favorite MP where they get good commission! I have been deceived in every place imaginable including Macau, HK, BKK etc then I learnt to say NO! So you must learn to say no if you are not sure / confirm the identity of the place.
Atlast after overcomming many hurdles of 4 wheeler traffic, pilion ridding, sword of curfew -9 pm closure of MRT and 10 pm movement censure I atlast reached 1.5 hr late at Longbeach at Petchbury at 7.45 pm. Selected a model babe of 25 yr old (39000 B) for 1.5 hrs of activity. She was very cute but alsopetite short and 40 kg in outlay but makes her very manageable and plyable for many positions. Not only this, she was very forbearing and patient inspite of our size difference and coperated very well in every position in the book including floor standing table with hands legs dangling from both side. She even commented that she is favorite of Thai men and not expect me to have chosen her.
Looks-9/10.
Body-8/10 too short.
Attitude- 10/10.
Damagrr-- 3900 + 200 tip.
(Apologies this report is a couple of months late).
Landed BKK late afternoon and made my way to my hotel in Nana. Once checked-in I had a few hours to kill waiting for my wingman who was due on a later flight, so I took the subway to the Huay Kwang area having read about the delights of soapies on bangkokredeye.com.
Chose Colonze 2 at random. Greeted by a friendly papasan and sat on couch with a long line of ladies separated into three groups. The Papasan exlained that they were grouped by price, 1700,2100 and 2300. The 1700 was the biggest group and there was only two girls in each of the more expensive brackets. I orderd a beer and sat there for a few minutes feeling awkward (I'm new to BKK remember). The papasan pointed out one of the 2300 girls and said she spoke English. She looked quite hot and out of all the girls there, I only found her and one of the 1700 girls attractive. At this point the 2300 girl hadn't stopped playing with her phone since I arrived. She then got up and walked out of the door, not taking her eyes of the phone and making my decision for me! I called over the papasan and told him I was interested in 1700 girl. Very petite, very cute and looked half Thai / half Chinese, sorry can't remember her number.
The girl took me by the arm and off we went. Unfortunately she didn't speak any English and we had to communicate by mime! She bathed me all over and I was semi-hard in the bath. She then dried me and pointed to the bed. I layback and she massaged my cock a bit before giving me a short blow job. Not the best I've ever had but it did the job in getting me hard. She then rolled a condom on and climbed on top of me cowgirl. After a few minutes bouncing up and down she leant back and ground herself back and forth until she came. I then pulled out and point to her to turn around. She dutifully got onto all fours and I entered her from behind, slowly building up and good rythm until I came. She then disposed of the condom, rinsed off my cock with the shower and we both got dressed and left. Without saying a word to each other throughout the whole experience! Next time I would chose a girl who can speak English.
I then headed back to the hotel and ordered a beer. 30 minutes later my wingman walks in with his luggage, sits down and orders a beer. He suggests we head out, eat, hit some gogo bars and get a hooker a piece. I tell him I've just had one and a smile spreads across his face "you didn't waste any time you dirty bastard". Haha.
We then hit Soi Cowboy and it's already 11 pm. Having read good things we hit shark. Holy shit. The place is stuffed full with *very* hot dancers. After a couple of drinks I catch the eye of a dancer "Poi". She sits down and I buy her a drink. She's very cute, dark skinned and all smiles and charm. (in my head I'm dismissing the charm as I know it's professional tactic for the girls. Says she wants me barfine her. I ask how much she says 2500ST, 5000 LT. Being our first night in Bangers we want to see what else is on offer so I say we'll probably be back, leave and cross the road into Suzie Wong. Big let down. About six or seven girls and only one looks do-able. We order a drink a piece all the same and watch the show. My wingman says he really likes the do-able one, bar fines her and leaves. Leaving me with a handfull of unattractive girls circling. I neck my drink and head back across the road to Shark. Poi spots me the instant I walk in and shoots over like a heat seeking missile. The girl found her mark alright! It's getting late and she's very hot and whilst not yet drunk I've had more that I would have like so we agree 2500ST. (with hindsight too much? And she's great fun. Says she's 29 and from Isaan (natch).
Back in the hotel we shower and get down to business. We make out and she then gets down to the business of sucking me off. Quite a good effort but again not the best I've had. She then mounts me cowgirl and starts bouncing up and down enthusiastically and yelping while I play with her perfectly formed brown titties. After a few minutes I roll her off and onto her back. She smiles and spreads her legs and I enter her missionary and bang away. She starts yelling "yes yes fuck me fuck me". If she was genuinely into it she'd be yelling in Thai, so I know its an act but I appreciate the effort all the same. I can feel my orgasm building and so a pull out, kiss her and tell her to turn over (I like to unload in doggy). I then re-enter her and bang away for about a minute before blowing my load After giggling and cuddling with for a few minutes I pay her and she leaves.
day 2.
my wingman and i compare notes. he says the girl he barfined was ok and he had fun but he's had much better in bangers. i told him i went back to shark and took poi. he said i made the right choice as she was exceptionally hot.
for day two we agree on a strategy of unloading our tanks quickly at the start of the evening before heading to nana for a long evening of relaxed perving. we hit dr bj's. the mamasan explains that the girls in white are "nurses" and cost 700, "consultants" are in red and cost 1000. looking along the line there's not many lookers. before i can take it all in my wingman has chosen a nurse i haven't even got a look at and disappeared! he always was quick to make up his mind:-the. i look along the line-up a few times and can only see one girls i like, a tall slim consultant in glasses. having made my choice of girl i order a whiskey and head upstairs with her where there are a row of cubicles in a corridor looking a bit like a public toilet. i can hear a couple of guys grunting as they're getting sucked off! my consultant leads me into one of the cubicles. there's a sink with a protruding lip that's clearly for resting your cock and balls on and what looks like a dentists chair. it's clear what the set-up is! i took off my pants and she washed my undercarriage in the sink. i then sit in the chair and she gets to work, sucking my cock stiff. she continues enthusiastically bobbing her head and sucking and occasionally popping a ball into her mouth and licking my ass while i sit back, relax and sip my whiskey! after about ten minutes she says "you want boom boom"? i imagined there would be an extra charge for this and i was quite enjoying the bj, so declined. she then starts to suck harder. great, but i'm still not coming. i often find it quite hard to come from a blowjob no matter how good they are. after another 5 minutes a bell rings and that's it. time's up she starts to apologise profusely for doing such bad work. i try to explain that it's ok, it takes me a long time to come from bj's and i enjoyed myself but she's too wrapped up in apologising to listen.
all in all i'm happy i had the experience but probably won't go back as only fs sex usually gets my rocks off.
after a bite to eat we hit nana. first we hit erotica. there's about five mostly attractive girls on stage and a similar number walking around waiting their turn to go on stage or sitting with customers. it's early so we finish our drinks and move on. we then hit dc-10 where there was a few girls but no real lookers, so we split and went into angelwitch (1st floor, 2nd floor to americans). good move. there was plenty of hot chicks performing great erotic shows on stage. a very pretty waitress with nerdy glasses served us. she was very efficient and kept the drinks coming and told us to tell her if we saw a girl we liked. very good at her job and i wish i'd tipped her more generously. a blonde english woman who looked a lot like a younger bridgette neilsen was sat next to me. she said to me "so many pretty girls" with delight in her voice. she explained that she was bisexual and looking for a girl for her and her husband to share. lucky guy!
after a bit we left and headed down to the other angelwitch on the ground floor, figuring there would be more of the same. wrong. the stage was full of a bunch of chubby and unattractive ladies. my wingman got talking to the only looker in there who explained that she just quit her job as an executive at toshiba as this work paid so much more. meanwhile, a tired and unattractive milf had honed in, and sat next to me uninvited and started rubbing my leg and pestering me for a drink. i refused, but it still took her a full 20 minutes to take the hint and leave.
we then decided to go back to the upstairs angelwitch. unfortunately, the place was thinning out and we saw a couple of hotties leaving with customers as we went in. my wingman located and bar fined a very tall slim dancer with tattoos. a hottie. b4 stard by now it was getting danger close to 2 and i still hadn't got a girl. there had been one of the dancers who had disappeared from the stage but i couldn't see her with a customer. i asked nerdy pretty waitress and she disappeared into the back and came back with the girl i was talking about! she was now wearing jeans and a jumper and about to go home. i bought her a drink. she gave a western sounding name like debbie and said she was 24. she initially said she couldn't go with me that night as she lived with her aunt, who didn't know what she did. she said i could take her phone number as she would like long time me some time in the near future. ok, i took her number. we chatted and then she had a change of heart and we agreed 4000 lt plus 600 bar fine. i paid the bar fine and she went away to the bathroom. she came back a few minutes later and said she was sorry but her aunt had just called and she had to go. i asked for my bar fine back and she said "i don't have it, i only have 300" and showed me the contents of her pockets. she was very apologetic and said she would go with me soon if i called her in a few days. i wasn't very happy about this obviously, but i remained cool and called over the mamasan. i explained what had happened. the mamasan then went away and i saw her arguing with the girl at the bar. a few minutes later the mamasan comes back to me, is very apologetic and gives me my 600 back. i then see the girl take the long route around the stage to avoid me with a face like she's about to cry, and out of the door. i'm still not sure i did the right thing as i didn't want the girls to lose face, but i'm not going to hand over 600 baht for nothing either. i'm impressed that the mamasan dealt with it properly.
unfortunately by the time this had played out it's closing time and the lights come on. shit. i prefer not to do freelancers because of the extra risk of disease, theft and **** issues but i was feeling horny. i remember reading that thermae is a good place to pick up freelancers and headed over there. there was about 10 ropey hookers left! clearly this was not to be by night. i headed out onto the street and bought a beer from a street stall and stood and watchedwhat was passing. i was approached by about three or four ladyboys who offered st for 1500. not my thing so i politely declined, but i am grateful for the honesty of two of these lb's who were very attractive and convincing. had they not been upfront i might have a agreed and had a big surprise once we got to my room! haha. i decided to call it quits and headed off to sleep alone. if this situation was to arise now i would head to climax.
Day 2.
My wingman and I compare notes. He says the girl he barfined was OK and he had fun but he's had much better in Bangers. I told him I went back to Shark and took Poi. He said I made the right choice as she was exceptionally hot. We chatted and then she had a change of heart and we agreed 4000 LT plus 600 bar fine. I paid the bar fine and she went away to the bathroom. She came back a few minutes later and said she was sorry but her aunt had just called and she had to go. I asked for my bar fine back and she said "I don't have it, I only have 300" and showed me the contents of her pockets. She was very apologetic and said she would go with me soon if I called her in a few days. I wasn't very happy about this obviously, but I remained cool and called over the mamasan. I explained what had happened. The mamasan then went away and I saw her arguing with the girl at the bar. A few minutes later the mamasan comes back to me, is very apologetic and gives me my 600 back. I then see the girl take the long route around the stage to avoid me with a face like she's about to cry, and out of the door. I'm still not sure I did the right thing as I didn't want the girls to lose face, but I'm not going to hand over 600 baht for nothing either. I'm impressed that the mamasan dealt with it properly..Good report and you did the right thing in asking your money. I ahve the feeling the girl tried a trick. Said yes with the idea to cash the BF and then come up with an excuse.
That can be the reason why she did the long route. Well done by the mamasan, on the other hand that is their role.
Don't worry if she loosed face, it is her problem and she deserves to have her bluff called and lose face. I do not hink you prefere to be the one losing face (and money) by being cheated.
The Eden is double (4200) the rate of Tulip (2100) but you have 2 at a time and it paddles to your kinkiness better! Spanking, passive anal, school Girl etc Girls in both place may not be that model looking however lot of choice between 20's and 30's and hence quiet a few of them moms with boob job done. However willing to please you. A-level is common to both places. I will recommend you arming urself with cialis as you will have to change condom 6-7 times between 3+3 places between 2 babes at Eden so that your tooling operates independent of your interfering brain! Level of professionalism is quiet high and is betrayed by babes' coperative attitudes. Never once they refuse which a independent WG will invariably once you cross time limit of 30-45 min. While here you could be doing sexercise for full time of 60-90 min without recess.
She was counting on you being a mug and not daring to complain. Free taxi money for her if she got away with it. Good call from your side.
As I have been in touch with a lot of seniors on the group here's my entire trip.
I landed on the 22nd for work purpose and didn't have loads of time for fun thou I wanted to make the most of it, the curfew ruined the trip, as mps and and gogos closing as soon as 8 pm.
1st day I returned from work around 7 pm was too tired as had to walk a lot bec of unavailability of taxies near the area. After an hr decided to take the bts via a shuttle and was back in hotel Mac boutique on soi 7 by 7 pm.
Called bamboo around 8 they said they are closed and then called Ez and same reply I was really like what the hell. Anyways being very close to NANA decided to head down and wanted to get a cute1 back for LT. Went down and after a lot of scouting I found some gud chicks and zeored down on 1. Before I approached her and her friends, some other guys approached her and again I went ahead. For a brief moment I looked back and saw the guys going without taking the girl I liked and hence decided to approach her again.
Went to her she talked nicely and said only ST available and that too for 1 k. Deal got done took her back to hotel, while walking back I did see a 9/10 chick petite and just what I like but I already had her so just went ahead. Bought a beer on the way for her and an ice tea for me went to room. Had a little chit chat and then went for shower, straight to bed where she was on top of me didn't do dfk but normal kissing then gave me an ok BBBJ, I took her daty, put on condi. And entered her in missionary pumped her hard for 10 minutes then changed posi to wot and finally ended in doggie. Gave her 1.1 k and she was happy to leave. Went down to leave her as the curfew had already started and her I'd was with the hotel guys. She was with me for around 1.5 hrs. Came back and went out for food and also had a nice relaxing foot massage at soi 3 came back by 12 slept. Bec. Of curfew lots of shops were closed and there were hardly people on roads so decided to avoid going out too much.
Overall session was 7/10.
Face - 7/10.
Body - 7/10 petite the way I like them.
Boobs - 5/10 nothing here to talk about.
Pussy 7.5/10 tight down there but had a bit of hair (I like them clean shaven).
Pic attached.
Day 2 - same as earlier went for work came back by 6 this time decided to head to bamboo and went there took cheer as recommended by my friend Action. She was a nice chick ,1.5 hrs session started with a regular shower, then nice massage, then great b2 b where she was playing with jhony finally great BBBJ ending up in 69. Which was great I was fingering her and sucking those pussy lips she was really enjoying my play and I was enjoying the sweet pussy of hers. I did finger her for long and she was all game and moaning. Very tight body and gud pair of boobs. Great experience but no dfks normal kissing. Finally put on the condi. And she was riding me like there is no tomorrow, changed posi to doggie and then again reverse cowgirl, finally we both came at the same time (thou I think she faked the orgasm but I really enjoyed it: P) we cuddled and bit of shower and then again what started was a great session of BBBJ. She continued to give me BBBJ for like 15 mins and again wanted to ride me condi. Up and she comes on top again riding like crazy. But jhony was in no mood to shoot again. So told her same and she was adamant on me doing 1 more time. Told her to give BBBJ and she obliged, again 15 minutes of BBBJ and some great HJ finally made me cum again.
Overall a great experience. 8/10.
Face -6.5/10.
Body 7.5/10.
Boobs - 8/ 10 Nice and firm the way I like them.
Pussy. Tight 7.5/10. (totally clean shaven).
Returned back by around 10 and again went out for foot massage and food at soi 3 came back and slept.
Day 3 - had finished the work but wanted to shop a bit so went out. Came back after lunch and took a small nap for 2 hrs. At around 7 ish decided to go out, went to NANA plaza which was way to crowded even thou the I heard reports that bec of curfew tourists were not coming out but plaza was full. Was in a mood to get some 1 LT I did go around didn't find anyone gud, so took to the streets.
Seaching for the chick I saw that day didn't find anyone to my liking, decided to head to soi 24 took bts. Got down went straight to Ez it was already 830 took Gift as per recommendation of mamasan.
This was one of the best sessions I have had in BKK.
Gift is very naught and wild Girl. Thou in pics she looks quite fair but in reality is tan but still a very gud looking girl. She knows her job well. She requested me to take a 1 hr session as she had to leave and I did the same.
Took me to the shower and she started with grinding my jhony and I was really enjoying it. She did give me a great bath applied soap everywherethen applied soap on her body and was giving me a B2 B is shower only applied soap on her ass and my dick and was really grinding it. We started with dfks in the shower only, she said she likes meand then came down and started BBBJ in the shower itself, after 2 minutes she stoped herself saying she wants more of me. Really chirpy girl did a lot of talking while giving me a great massage. When I turned Jhony was in the mood and while playing and sucking her boobs which where nice, she had her hands all over me. She has very naughty eyes, started cuddling and dfks for 5 minutes and then sucking my thumb and then went down for an amazing BBBJ. She did suck for 5 minutes and came with a condom asked me if I wanted more of sucking and I said yeah I would love to. Did suck my jhony for 15 more minutes before I stoped her she took the condi. In her mouth and put in on still sucking my dick. Went for cowgirl and she was really tight there. Was riding me and I was thrusting at the same time changed posi. To miss. And ended with cowgirl again. Overall I was way to satisfied. Came out very happy.
Overall 9/10 Gift was really amazing.
Face - 8/10.
Body - 8/10.
Boobs 8/10.
BBBJ - 9.5/10.
Pussy - 8.5/10.
Totaly GFE would like to repeat her again during my next trip. She did again gave me a shower.
Came back to hotel around 10 went for food and foot massage, wanted another session but decided against it as it was CL final wanted to see the match. Slept and left the hotel around 9 for the airport.
Tits_Lover
05-30-14, 11:49
tiny, sweet 19. agreed on 2 hours with owo and cim
(she said no a) multiple shots for 4000 which is quite steep but i wanted to give a try. usually the reception calls me to
announce the guest but this time i heard the bell at the door and was bit surprised. i opened the door 2 find 2 girls!
the one from the pic was exactly as in the pics, really nice young and sweet. the other one was actually nice as well,
just a tad older. the latter announced she is there to bring fay (teen's name) , collect the money and leave. she also told
me that fay speaks very little english! dang! all bells went off. bad signs! it meant i did sms / email all the time
with the "handler" and not fay. what to do? wise is to switch on the brain and call it off, bad is to accept the deal. my
dick won head down flooding my brain with hormons. big mistake! to make a long story short: i have been cheated as a
rooky (which i am not or at least i though so. some bits of it: she had a gorgeous teen body, small tits, not an ounce
of fat, perfect trimmed little pussy. just a sweet baby doll but. she assumed the egyptian mummy position and showed
all her unexperience and novelty to the p4p game. damn. was fighting with the idea to send her away but my hormons
were coming out from my ears by then. so i gave it a try and managed to get one round with a. almost dead moaning body.
after that my brain kicked in and i told her it was ok to leave and she happily accepted. we couldn't even manage to talk
via a translator, she seemed not understanding (what you guys use? the normal online g translator? or some app?). i was
almost afraid the door would open and the police to arrest me for having sex with an ****. her handler (chita) had
the i'd but she keept saying "i am one nine" which i had to believe.
lesson learned.her "team" still pushing her on the market via cl. you can find her advertised now as "cookie" with the subject "19 f looking to meet you.฿3647;3647;3647; - w4 m - 19 (bangkok) ".
pictures are exactly of her... so if you want to bang a tiny, nice, hard, very young, inexperienced body which doesn't speak a word of english ... then maybe it is ok for you.
tl.
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FlyingVisitor
05-30-14, 14:37
great place next to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), good looking girls and good service. they all peform the same so have been well trained. can't wait to return.would you please tell us the name of that place?
how is the procedure? do they serve you in the public like sol or have you to hide behind curtains?
would you please tell us the name of that place?
how is the procedure? do they serve you in the public like sol or have you to hide behind curtains?unless there is now a third one on that row of houses he is referring to kasalong. walk past [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and it's around the corner.
if you prefer to not face the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girls first you can get there from soi 6. from the sukh walk along the fences and turn left. you will get to kasalong.
the procedure is the same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). choose a lady or take the one that's in line. booths are walled but not the entire way up so you will hear people yammering from the other booths. undress, get your dick washed, sit down and get blown, wash again if you wish and leave.
please don't be the guy telling his life story in the booths.
Sir Lancelot
05-30-14, 17:54
The older names like Nataree are saddled with older babes in her 30's.You must have it confused with somewhere else because this couldn't be further from the truth. Of all the massage parlours I have tried in Thailand, Nataree has the youngest selection of girls. I've been half a dozen times and each time the lounge has been packed with pretty young things. I think the oldest girl I have taken from there is 23 and a few have been late teens. It's both the strength and the weakness of the place. On the one hand you're almost guaranteed to find a pretty girl but sometimes the girls can be inexperienced due to their age.
Western787
05-31-14, 04:08
You must have it confused with somewhere else because this couldn't be further from the truth. Of all the massage parlours I have tried in Thailand, Nataree has the youngest selection of girls. I've been half a dozen times and each time the lounge has been packed with pretty young things. I think the oldest girl I have taken from there is 23 and a few have been late teens. It's both the strength and the weakness of the place. On the one hand you're almost guaranteed to find a pretty girl but sometimes the girls can be inexperienced due to their age.Perhaps he entered on the left side (where the first fish bowl is) and never got to the right side location which has all the sideliners hanging in a room in front of a 2nd fish bowl. Otherwise it makes no sense at all.
Western787
05-31-14, 04:41
Day 2.
She gave a Western sounding name like Debbie and said she was 24. She initially said she couldn't go with me that night as she lived with her aunt, who didn't know what she did. She said I could take her phone number as she would like long time me some time in the near future. OK, I took her number. We chatted and then she had a change of heart and we agreed 4000 LT plus 600 bar fine. I paid the bar fine and she went away to the bathroom. She came back a few minutes later and said she was sorry but her aunt had just called and she had to go. I asked for my bar fine back and she said "I don't have it, I only have 300" and showed me the contents of her pockets. She was very apologetic and said she would go with me soon if I called her in a few days. I wasn't very happy about this obviously, but I remained cool and called over the mamasan. I explained what had happened. The mamasan then went away and I saw her arguing with the girl at the bar. A few minutes later the mamasan comes back to me, is very apologetic and gives me my 600 back. I then see the girl take the long route around the stage to avoid me with a face like she's about to cry, and out of the door. I'm still not sure I did the right thing as I didn't want the girls to lose face, but I'm not going to hand over 600 baht for nothing either. I'm impressed that the mamasan dealt with it properly.
The Mamasan correctly indentified it for it was: "theft" How does 300 bahts disappear in the bathroom in a few minutes? And the girl had absolutely no money on her other than half of the barfine? That's sounds very fishy.
ActionOriented
05-31-14, 04:56
You must have it confused with somewhere else because this couldn't be further from the truth. Of all the massage parlours I have tried in Thailand, Nataree has the youngest selection of girls. I've been half a dozen times and each time the lounge has been packed with pretty young things. I think the oldest girl I have taken from there is 23 and a few have been late teens. It's both the strength and the weakness of the place. On the one hand you're almost guaranteed to find a pretty girl but sometimes the girls can be inexperienced due to their age.I could not agree more with Sir Lancelot, the sideliners at Nataree are very young and hot (and the upper limit on age would be up to 25). The fishbowl girls can be much older but I have taken several 20 to 25 year old girls from the fishbowl as well. Nataree should not be dismissed out of hand, lots of cuties to hunt in that place.
ActionOriented
05-31-14, 04:58
Perhaps he entered on the left side (where the first fish bowl is) and never got to the right side location which has all the sideliners hanging in a room in front of a 2nd fish bowl. Otherwise it makes no sense at all.If he took the wrong entrance, which has only the fishbowl, I would agree that there are several aged ladies in the fishbowl, but I have in the past also found several young pickings in the fishbowl.
There is a large "lollipop" banner on a small sub soi to soi 11. You go all the way from sukh, turn left at the 7-11 and right at the fenix place.
I tried to check it out but it was dark. When I have been driving past theres been a group of dudes hanging out outside. Any one know if it's the same as the soi 10 location or a gay place? This map link might work: https://goo.gl/maps/w8hNG some very eager massage girls in the start of the subsoi.I know the sub soi yes there is a gay massage place down there called Bannana Massage, need I say more.
Hi guys!
These are the fetish clubs I've heard about. I'm actually interested in having an in- or outcall with one of these girls, a slave actually. What their websites don't say, is whether multiple shots can be had and especially what all these girls provide. FS, BBBJ and anal sex would be great. Has any of you guys got experience with these clubs or other ones?
http://barbarfetishclub. com/
http://www. demoniabangkok. com/dominas_demonia_bangkok. html
http://www. sm-bangkok. com/I visited Analisa Massage once during my visit this month. The service was quite good for the menu item I picked. Peachy was an enthuisatic and engaged provider:
Analisamassage.com
No experience with this place but it sounds like they offer what you are looking for:
Bkksessions.com
SunLover
http://www. sm-bangkok. com/I booked MC a couple of years ago. She is great both on BDSM side and on regular sex side, she's a switch and does whatever you fancy. If you don't mind mature girls (she's in her mid 40's), she's a very goood choice.
Here's my review of her services, that I posted at sexyescortads. Com:
Though I'd like to get a little into BDSM I booked a date with MC from Bangkok SM. Actually I wanted to book to a mistress/slave session, but unfortunately her regular slave was not available, so she same alone. MC offered to act as a slave, but though it was my "first" time for BDSM I refused kindly ;) MC arrived a little late, but made it up with her open and talkative attitude. She brought along a bag full of bdsm equipment: strap-on, bondage ropes, handcuffs and much more. First I was bonded on the bed with some ropes and received some facesitting, rimming, nipples licking and blowjob. Slowly, but intense anyway. Definately a great start.
And after I got unleashed again, horny as hell, we got into a great pornstyle like fucking. She offered all kinds of services a naughty guy like me can think: rimming from me and her, pussy licking, deep throat blow jobs, deep french kissing, anal fingering and intense butt fucking for nearly one hour. Finally I put off my condom and gave her a big load right on her face - pornstyle at it's best! MC cleaned herself up, got back into shape, took her money and left me with a big smile on her face . right to the next customer (as she told me). If you prefere young girls, who wants to get paid for their looks and not for their performance, then stay away from MC. She's mature (and older then the 31 years mentioned in the ad), but still looks pretty good and has a hell of a body. But most important of them all: she likes what she's doing, she likes to please, she likes to dominate and she likes to get fucked (I never had a girl with such a broad smile while I fucked her ass). I don't ask for more. This session easily broke into my Top 3 of "all time best fucks" 100% recommendation and probably will meet her again next time I'm back in Bangkok
Sir Lancelot
06-01-14, 15:52
in april i posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. jackson has since explained that was due to isg migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. my apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but i hope it will provide useful information to others.
day 2, tuesday: bangkok.
after a lie-in i took advantage of nana hotel's free breakfast buffet. then i went to the internet caf opposite rajah hotel to book a flight to yangon. airasia offered the best price and i booked a cheap ticket for thursday. it cost just over 2000 baht.
it meant i had two full days left in bangkok. as well as visiting the gogo bars and massage parlours i wanted to do some sight-seeing, so i spent the afternoon at the grand palace and the reclining buddha nearby. they were very impressive. it was a sweltering hot day so when i got back to my hotel i slept for a few hours.
when i woke i craved food. bangkok is a bad place to feel hungry as tempting aromas attack you from every street. i decided to eat at beer garden on soi 7. it's a building containing beer-bars where freelance hookers can be picked up cheaply. apparently the food is good so i thought it was worth a visit. i didn't expect to take a girl but you never know with freelance joints. if i met a girl i couldn't resist, i could take her back to my hotel for short-time and still have time to go out afterwards for a gogo-crawl.
i crossed the busy sukhumvit road and walked past the myriad of market stalls on the 'odd' side of the street, selling a diverse range of items from t-shirts to fake watches, porn dvds to dead tarantulas. after a minute zig-zagging through the tourists, i turned on to soi 7. beer garden is a large barn-like building about 50 meters down on the left. it was packed with customers but i managed to score a good seat near the entrance. i bought myself a singha beer and ordered food. the menu was comprehensive with lots of asian dishes and western favourites. the same kitchen services all of the bars.
it was 6. 45 pm and there were about 40 girls. they were older than those in the gogo bars or massage parlours with most of them in their thirties. if it's fresh-faced cuties you seek, beer garden is not the place for you. most girls congregate near the entrance so it's the best place to park yourself if you are looking to hook up. if you see a girl walking in who you like, you can pounce quickly before anyone else gets chance.
sat opposite me were six girls perched on stools. a few were reasonably sexy in a yummy mummy kind of way. one smiled to me and when i smiled back she took it as a green light to walk over. "were you here earlier? " she asked. i shook my head. "you had blue shirt on? " she said in case that might jog my memory. her name was min and she was one of the younger girls in beer garden, a 5/10. we chatted briefly and my food arrived. "i leave you to eat" she said. it's a good policy of beer garden to allow customers to eat their food in peace. my spicy pork noodles were delicious.
when i finished eating min returned and asked "okay to sit? " she wasn't a stunner but had a nice figure and i liked the fact that she wasn't pushy. i offered her a drink. an advantage of beer garden is that there are no inflated lady-drink prices. although she was one of the younger girls, i was surprised to find out that she was 29. i took her number in case i wanted a bargain basement hook-up at a later date.
min's friend sat with us. she was mid-thirties but had a great face. ten years ago she probably could have graced any gogo bar in bangkok but that's the kind of place beer garden is, lots of girls past their prime.
the time was 8 pm when i arrived at nana plaza. there is something about this place that can't be beaten. i like the fact that it's not a street like soi cowboy, walking street or fields avenue even, it is three storeys of wall-to-wall gogo bars in an enclosed place. as a result it is very compact and has its own unique atmosphere. on the ground floor are beer-bars and there are scantily dressed hello girls everywhere you look. it's lively, it's fun and it's exciting.
a few years ago nana plaza was rather shabby but it has now been given a lick of yellow paint and a clean up. some people call it 'banana plaza' due to its colour, which is ironic considering the ladyboys who grab your arm outside some of the more specialist bars! i miss walking through the hair salon that used to be at the top of the stairs on the 2nd floor. i liked making eye contact in the mirrors with gogo girls having their hair curled or straightened. i reckon that hair salon could have been a great place to meet girls. sit down, have a trim and see if you can get the number of an off-duty hottie in the next seat. no bar-fine or lady-drinks necessary! the only disadvantage of this tactic is that you'the be bald by the end of your trip.
i started at one of my favourite bars, mandarin. i walked up the static escalator on the right and as usual got mobbed by the enthusiastic bunch of young hello girls at the top. it's a small bar but i like the intimate layout and it is usually stocked with a good selection of girls. the best place to sit is near the dj as you get a good view of the girls when they file off stage at the end of their dance shift.
i sat down and a cheerful mamasan said "welcome back, i remember you" . i smiled politely but assumed it was just something that she said to all customers to make them feel special. i was wrong. she rushed away and came back with a familiar face. it was tan, the pretty girl i bought a lady-drink for last year. i was impressed by the mamasans memory! tan seemed pleased to see me again and looked as pretty as i remembered so i offered her a drink. last year i had been dissuaded from bar-fining her because she was very shy and spoke little english but now she was warm, affectionate and easy to talk to. on top of that she was flirty and confident, pinching my cheek when i made her laugh and squeezing my hand tightly. a year had made a huge difference. perhaps last year she was fresh off the train from her province?
there were other great girls too. number 2 had a sexy figure, 4 was an attractive blonde and 47 had the kind of cute and innocent appeal i like. the bar had a fun atmosphere and the girls were smiling as they danced. there were 12 girls in each dance shift, all young and slim. the mamasan shouted something and the girls all pulled their bikini tops off and danced topless. there were lots of pert breasts on show.
the only down-side of this bar is that the mamasan has an annoying habit of asking for lady-drinks. i was talking to tan when her friend, a sexy young girl with a slim figure, sat the other side of me. within seconds the mamasan asked "drink for girl? " i stuck to my 'one lady-drink, one boy-drink' rule. "drink for me? " the mamasan then asked.
a young thai man sat down at the next table and bought a bucketful of ping-pong balls. he threw the balls on to the stage in one go and the girls screamed in unison before scrambling around on their knees trying to collect as many balls as possible. for each one they gather, they get money from the bar.
barely had the excitement died down when he bought another bucket of balls and threw them on stage as well. the girls almost hyperventilated they were so excited. i've always thought that ping-pong balls are a gimmick aimed at excitable newcomers but i noticed that the most attractive girl was now focusing her attention on him. girls can smell money. perhaps if there is a standout girl on stage who hasn't noticed you yet, a 500 baht bucket of balls isn't a bad way to turn her head?
although i liked tan, this was my first bar of the night and it was too early to bar-fine. i told her that i had to go but maybe i would see her later. before i went i enquired about prices. she told me that the bar-fine at mandarin is 600 baht, which is fairly standard at nana plaza, and she quoted 2500 for short-time. most girls who quote 2500 will come down immediately to a counter-offer of 2000 in my experience. i kissed her goodbye and felt pleased that i had a strong contender lined up for later in the night. in terms of girls, layout and atmosphere, mandarin is one of my favourite bars in bangkok.
in previous years i've had some success at rainbow 2, located in the far right corner of the ground floor. i bar-fined a girl called nong three times on my cherry trip (which of course now i can see was very naive of me) and more recently i short-timed a super-cute girl called lat. recent reports suggest this bar is now tailored towards japanese customers which usually means higher prices.
it has a standard layout with a stage in the middle surrounded by two tiers of seats. 10 girls were shuffling halfheartedly around the chrome poles. the girls were identikit japanese types, most with fair hair, bangs and side ponytails. they were probably wearing hello kitty knickers. unsurprisingly i was the only western customer. the standard was high. 31 had a great face but was dancing in a zombie-like trance, watching her reflection in the mirrored wall. i saw a cute girl, number 5, sat on a stool next to the stage. she had long hair extensions and braces on her teeth. she saw me looking and playfully pulled a tongue. she was pretty and had a fun personality so i waved her over. she seemed surprised and pointed at herself as if to say "me?
her name was fay and she was 23 years old. we chatted and she was good fun so i offered her a drink. after ten minutes she said "i must go dance now" . one of my pet-hates is when this happens and a girl you've bought a drink for barely casts a glance in your direction, but fay danced right in front of me and was a sexy little mover. she gave me lots of smiles and even pulled silly faces in my direction. it was cute to watch, especially since the rest of the girls were trying hard to look sexy for the oh-so-serious japanese customers. i like girls who aren't afraid to be silly as it shows a relaxed attitude which hints at good service.
the bar-fine in rainbow 2 is 600 baht and just like tan from mandarin fay quoted 2500 for short-time. i suspected she too would accept 2000 for short-time as that seems to be the standard price for good lookers in nana plaza these days. "i want go with you" she said and cuddled up to me. the feeling was mutual but the night was young.
i was surprised by rainbow 2. the prices were on par with other bars in nana plaza and another thing i liked is that there was absolutely no pressure to buy lady-drinks. i could just drink my beer and watch the girls, just how i like it. best of all, the talent-levels were high so this bar is definitely worth visiting.
two bars and i had two good options to bar-fine. the time was 9. 40 pm and i decided to wander around and find a bar i haven't been to before. in other words the one with the best looking hello girls.
outside voodoo on the ground floor a very obvious ladyboy grabbed my arm. she was caked in make-up and had a pair of big fake tits. "i'm sabrina" she said in a masculine voice before whispering "don't be shy, we go short-time hotel upstairs" . i said "you beautiful but i not go with ladyboys" sabrina looked shocked and said "i not ladyboy! " haha. sometimes ladyboys can be hard to identify but this one was very obvious (the voice, the fake tits, the fact she looked like a man in drag) and why mention the short-time hotel if she wasn't? i politely declined her offer.
i walked up to the first floor and passed spankey's. peeking out from behind the curtain was another blast-from-the-past, ice, a big-boobed girl i bought a drink for last year. she didn't recognise me but i didn't expect her to. it was a year ago and she would have been bought a lot of lady-drinks since then. i was just another face in the crowd.
on the top floor i saw a great looking hello girl outside wild thing. she had fair hair, a lovely face and a perfect slim body. i didn't resist as she grabbed my arm and pulled me inside. she directed me to a prime seat in front of the stage but when i sat down i grabbed her hand and pulled her to sit next to me. her name was bim and she oozed sex appeal. i decided not to waste any time and offered her a drink. she was a great girl, not just pretty but fun and flirty and she had the kind of glint in her eye that suggested she would indeed be a wild thing if i chose to bar-fine her.
she went up to dance and she was a fantastic mover too. she fixed me with a sexy stare and grinded, wiggled and gyrated in my direction, giving me a glimpse of 'coming attractions' if i chose to bar-fine her. wild thing, you make my heart sing! there were 14 girls on stage and not only was the standard high, the girls danced with great energy. they weren't just shuffling from side-to-side looking bored, they were smiling and having fun. they weren't wearing number tags but i counted three that i rated 8/10 or higher. this place definitely has talent.
when bim finished dancing i bought her another drink and she gave me a kiss on the lips by way of thanks. by now a plan had formulated in my head. i would bar-fine bim for short-time and then come back to nana plaza at midnight and bar-fine tan from mandarin. it would be expensive but you've got to make the most of bangkok while you can.
i asked about prices and that is when the rug was pulled from under my feet. she told me that she (and all of the other girls in yellow tops) had an outrageous bar-fine of 2000 baht! on top of that she quoted 3000 for short-time. although i was confident i could negotiate her short-time price down, the bar-fine was crazy. equally pretty girls could be bar-fined for 600 elsewhere in nana plaza so why pay 2000 here?
i told her "you suay mak mak but bar-fine too high. 600 baht in other bars" she replied "i coyote dancer" by way of explanation. i ruefully thought that it explained why she was such a great dancer. she gets lots of practise because the bar-fine is so high and therefore nobody bar-fines her.
i tried to suggest that we could meet up after she finished work but her english was lacking so she called the mamasan over to act as interpreter. for obvious reasons i decided not to pursue an after-hours meeting but told the mamasan what i thought about the bar-fine. "i like girl very much and would like to bar-fine her" i said, "but 2000 too high. crazy price" i explained that the bar-fine was 600 in other bars. "cannot change" she told me. i paid my chit and left. at least i had registered my disapproval. if enough customers complained then perhaps the bar-fine might come down.
what a shame. for 20 minutes wild thing was one of my favourite gogo bars in nana plaza. it had great girls and there was a no-holds-barred atmosphere with girls mounting customers and lap-dancing for them. but the prices are crazy. why pay 5000 baht for short-time when you can take a similar girl for 2600 from other bars? furthermore 12 of the 14 girls on stage were coyote dancers! great bar, great girls but joke prices. avoid.
the time had come to visit the creme-de-la-creme, rainbow 4. it's located in the far right corner of the 1st floor and it was 10.40 pm when i entered. it was as crowded as ever.
a young waitress tried to lead me to a seat around the side but i spotted a stool in the central aisle between the two l-shaped stages so i quickly claimed it. it's my favourite place to sit because you get an up-close and personal view of the girls on both stages. it's great to sit there with your beer and get hypnotised by all of the jiggling bottoms within touching distance!
last year i bar-fined a spectacular girl called pam from here but i carefully scanned around and couldn't see her. i usually don't bar-fine the same girl twice but sometimes i make exceptions for exceptional girls.
not only was it crowded with customers, it was crowded with girls too. 30 were dancing and there were easily 50 sat on the sidelines, either clinking glasses with customers or huddled in groups waiting to go up and dance. there are also usually three or four girls using the mirror in the male toilets to apply their make-up. i always find that quite awkward when i'm stood at the urinal!
the girls were topless on the left stage while the right-hand stage had the prettier girls, especially those in front of the entrance. strangely for rainbow 4 i didn't see any standout options apart from a few sitting with customers. i saw a few good lookers but none quite pretty enough to invite down for a drink. despite this, i still love rainbow 4. it has the most girls and the quality is usually excellent. i've barfined three great lookers in the past and they've always delivered in the bedroom too. the bar-fine is 600 and girls will accept 2000 for short-time.
it was now past 11 pm and time to bar-fine a girl. i had a few options but there was one standout, tan from mandarin. as i headed along the balcony towards mandarin i saw some pretty hello girls outside fantasia. one had bright orange hair and tattoos. i sometimes like girls that are different and this girl was definitely different. i made a mental note to return another time.
the number of girls in mandarin had thinned out and i noticed that some of the prettier ones were no longer there. no doubt they were spreading their legs in a hotel room somewhere. but thankfully tan was on the stage and she gave me a big smile. i called her down and she said "i glad you come back" when she sat at my side. she seemed really pleased to see me, always a good sign. i told her i would give her 2000 baht for short-time before adding my usual line "plus tip if you make me smile" . she laughed and accepted the challenge.
"what your hotel? " she asked as we walked hand-in-hand out of nana plaza. "it's a long walk" i said as we crossed the street. "my hotel" i said as we arrived at nana hotel a few steps later. there were about 30 freelancers in the car-park but the standard was low. i saw a few respectable ones but i suspect the best girls get snapped up quickly by guys from the surrounding beer-bars. tan handed her i'd card to the security desk and we took a lift up to my room. i always find it funny how many of these gogo girls say "i'm shy" when they get undressed, given that they've been dancing semi-naked in front of a bar full of strangers all night! she had no reason to be shy of course, she had a lovely slim body with small but firm tits. she washed me under the shower and looked cute in a shower cap. i dried myself off and lay on the bed as she brushed her teeth. to me, tonight had represented what i love about thailand. i'the had a great time visiting lots of bars and meeting lots of girls. now i was about to have sex with my favourite.
she gave me a nice blow-job before i put on a condom and slid in to her. we tried lots of different positions and she loved to be fucked from behind as we both lay on our sides. she kissed me over her shoulder then took my hand and placed it over one of her breasts and made me squeeze. when i first entered her she gasped and i had to ask "you okay? " but by the end her ankles were on my shoulders and she was pulling me in to her as i pounded away.
she was in no rush to leave afterwards which i liked. we chatted and swapped phone numbers and when she eventually left i marvelled at what a different girl she was from last year. a year ago she had been inexperienced, shy and spoke little english but now she was sexy, confident and delivered great sex.
tomorrow was my last day in bangkok and i wanted two girls, one from nataree massage parlour and another from soi cowboy. if they could be as good as tan i was in for a treat.
On my way to Thailand late June. Plane does not arrive until midnight.
Will I be stuck at the airport until 4 am due to curfew or do the cabs still run from there?
On my way to Thailand late June. Plane does not arrive until midnight.
Will I be stuck at the airport until 4 am due to curfew or do the cabs still run from there?You'll be able to get a cab. Don't worry.
Somewhere15
06-01-14, 19:14
I just chatted with a friend who told me she was in Bangkok Beat. Sukhumvite Soi 7/1.
On my reaction about the curfew she said: no problem, the Army blockades are nearly gone so no issue to go from Sukhumvite with a cab to Lad Phrao area.
Bangkok Beat had adjusted opening hours: they close at 3 AM.
Thai are still very supprising.
Thought I would echo some money saving tips to the people here.
Last trip to BKK I forgot to take my ATM card from the machine. The machine swallowed it up and I could never get it back even though I realized and came back 5 minutes later. I ended up using my backup United MilesPlus credit card using cash advances to fund my play time and expenses. I in turn was hit with hundreds of $ in Foreign Transaction Fees (FTF). I was annoyed that this travel oriented Credit Card was so unfriendly when it came to the FTFs.
Getting to the point.
The best ATM debit card out there (has been for years) is a Charles Schwab. Schwab-One Platnum ATM card. You will not pay for a single withdraw fee world wide. They all get reimbursed back to you. You will need to open a Schwab one checking account but it has a no min-deposit and no monthly service fees. I have had this type of account for longer than 30 years and have never been unhappy with anything the entire time.
If you are German, I read that Deutsche Bank has a similar type of offer for their depositors.
Then, for your standard credit card, there has been a handful of banks offering no FTF cards like Chase Sapphire Preferred, Barkleys Arrival Plus, or Capitol One Quicksilver. Except I think the Capitol One "Venture" card has just raised the bar.
The Venture card now offers no annual fee whereas the others want $80-100/ yr. For a no FTF card.
Just Google the card names for all the surrounding details as some perks differ. I don't have any data to compare the currency conversion RATE angle of the cards, but seem to feel the differences between the cards are going to be very small. (Don't confuse the FTF with the exchange RATE that may be skimmed depending on the daily exchange rate).
Hope this post encourages a few of you to clean house regarding the topic. I know it has taken me awhile.
If you are German, I read that Deutsche Bank has a similar type of offer for their depositors. It's Deutsche Kreditbank (www. Dkb. De), not Deutsche Bank. But the Visa CC from DKB is indeed great for travelling. Any fee you'll get charged for withdrawl from ATM will get reimbursed within 2 or 3 days. The exchange rates are ok. Unfortunately for any other non-Euro transaction they charge a fee of 1,75%.
In April I posted a 21 day diary on this forum but subsequently all of the text on certain days disappeared. Jackson has since explained that was due to ISG migrating to a new server and invited people to re-post if they wish. My apologies if this lengthy post is a nuisance if you read it first time round but I hope it will provide useful information to others.
Day 2, Tuesday: Bangkok.
I'm glad that you took the time to post it. Thanks.
Thought I would echo some money saving tips to the people here.
Last trip to BKK I forgot to take my ATM card from the machine. The machine swallowed it up and I could never get it back even though I realized and came back 5 minutes later. I ended up using my backup United MilesPlus credit card using cash advances to fund my play time and expenses. I in turn was hit with hundreds of $ in Foreign Transaction Fees (FTF). I was annoyed that this travel oriented Credit Card was so unfriendly when it came to the FTFs.
I also have a United MileagePlus Explorer Card, and I have been very pleased with the card, and they recently announced that they eliminated the Foreign Transaction Fee (FTF) from their card. I think the charges that you incurred were Cash Advance Fees: very different from FTF.
FEES.
Annual Membership Fee.
$0 Intro fee for the first year. After that, $95.
Transaction Fees.
Balance Transfers Either $5 or 3% of the amount of each transfer, whichever is greater.
Cash Advances Either $10 or 5% of the amount of each transaction, whichever is greater.
Foreign Transactions None.
Penalty Fees.
Late Payment Up to $15 if the balance is less than $100; up to $25 if the balance is $100 to less than $250; up to $35 if the balance is $250 or more.
Over-the-Credit-Limit None.
Return Payment Up to $35.
Return Check Up to $35.
Last trip to BKK I forgot to take my ATM card from the machine. The machine swallowed it up and I could never get it back even though I realized and came back 5 minutes later. I ended up using my backup United MilesPlus credit card using cash advances to fund my play time and expenses. I in turn was hit with hundreds of $ in Foreign Transaction Fees (FTF). I was annoyed that this travel oriented Credit Card was so unfriendly when it came to the FTFs.
The best ATM debit card out there (has been for years) is a Charles Schwab. Schwab-One Platnum ATM card. You will not pay for a single withdraw fee world wide. They all get reimbursed back to you. You will need to open a Schwab one checking account but it has a no min-deposit and no monthly service fees. I have had this type of account for longer than 30 years and have never been unhappy with anything the entire time.
I am always amazed at the people who travel halfway around the world and their entire trip depends on them keeping one little piece of plastic. One hell of a risk if you consider they warn you of pickpockets at all the major gathering places. Same with showing up with just one credit card, its always better to have double or triple the protection. I brought plenty of cash, my normal atm card (which charges foreign fee's so its only for emergency) and two (yes two) charles schwab debit cards. Its free to open more than one schwab account FYI and you can link them together. Lose one card, transfer the money to the other account (or keep half in each).
And for those using their United credit card for free trips to BKK, sorry to report but the rewards needed for a free ticket just jumped 15 k miles (from 65 k to 80 k).
Thought I would echo some money saving tips to the people here. I go a different route entirely: 100% cash. Pristine $100 USD bills bring the best exchange rate with no footprints. Leave the big money in the hotel safe and only bring enough cash with you for what you will need for that outing. I also take two credit and ATM cards (and carry one of each with me at all times) in case of emergency.
I found the best exchange rates can be had at the Arab money changes behind Sukumvit Soi 3/5 and at Superrich which has a branch at the Asoke BTS.
SunLover.
I found the best exchange rates can be had at the Arab money changes behind Sukumvit Soi 3/5 and at Superrich which has a branch at the Asoke BTS.Arabs give the best rates in this town. Sukhumvit, also Silom.
I also have a United MileagePlus Explorer Card, and I have been very pleased with the card, and they recently announced that they eliminated the Foreign Transaction Fee (FTF) from their card. I think the charges that you incurred were Cash Advance Fees: very different from FTF. Customer service told me on the phone to expect the kind of charges I described and am showing. As you can see, I had two cash advances (1679 and $1010) then just below I get prodded twice for $50.38 and 50.38 then $30.32 and 30.32 for the second. Both charges are described as FTFs.
At any rate, I would rather not pay $95/ yr when the Venture card is free plus slightly better perks.
You, sir, have established a standard for comprehensive, informative and authoritative sex reporting. Wish I were young again in Bangkok. Luckily I had that experience decades ago. When I returned to Pattaya (only) for an overnight two years ago, I was frankly disappointed. But, hey, for some these will be the good old days.
And for those using their United credit card for free trips to BKK, sorry to report but the rewards needed for a free ticket just jumped 15 k miles (from 65 k to 80 k). And that is for economy class redemptions. Business class are went from 120,000 miles to 160,000 miles, and first class from 140,000 to 260,000 miles. Plus United discontinued their NRT-BKK service which further limits reward options.
I have done a lot of flying in my time and accumulated a lot of miles, so I did do several trips in F on Thai and on other carriers. That window is rapidly closing though. Earn and burn would be my advice.
On my way to Thailand late June. Plane does not arrive until midnight.
Will I be stuck at the airport until 4 am due to curfew or do the cabs still run from there?As of last week the curfew does not apply for transport to / from the airport. Have your tickets and passport available just in case you are asked. FWIW I don't think the curfew will be in effect that much longer. Either way you should be fine.
SL.
And that is for economy class redemptions. Business class are went from 120,000 miles to 160,000 miles, and first class from 140,000 to 260,000 miles. Plus United discontinued their NRT-BKK service which further limits reward options.United just after merger went with so many promotions, they're now more people in the elite line than the other. So, of course they raise reward ticket redemption rates, plus added $ amount threshold to gain gold star alliance status. Reserving economy one way ticket next month BKK to Vienna, saw 55,000 miles. Instead, booked BKK to Cairo with stop in Vienna (where I will disembark) for 35,000. Matter of time before they close this nice loophole.
ActionOriented
06-02-14, 06:01
I go a different route entirely: 100% cash. Pristine $100 USD bills bring the best exchange rate with no footprints. Leave the big money in the hotel safe and only bring enough cash with you for what you will need for that outing. I also take two credit and ATM cards (and carry one of each with me at all times) in case of emergency.
I found the best exchange rates can be had at the Arab money changes behind Sukumvit Soi 3/5 and at Superrich which has a branch at the Asoke BTS.
SunLover. The Asok BTS branch offers a slightly reduced rate of exchange than the rate offered at the Rajdamri branch. However, I haven't considered the amount one needs to travel to Rajdamri against the rate offered at the BTS.
Member #4698
06-02-14, 13:31
United showed no respect to their mileage customers when they upped the necessary miles to 80,000 from 60,000 for roundtrip coach flights from USA to Asia regardless of how many miles were in a member's account at the time. OK. If that's the way they want to play, two can play that way. After I use up my remaining miles I will cancel my card. In a few months United's marketing department will send me new offers with a 30,000 mile inducement. I will sign up for the new card, use the miles, then cancel the card and wait for the next promotion.
The airline credit cards are not good value unless one flies a lot. If you are a big flyer then the card makes sense and is of value. Capital One Venture card with their 2% reward is an overall better card. No limited seating or obscene flight routes when you want to use your points. Just buy the flight you want on any airline and apply your points after the purchase is posted. Some American Express cards have an even higher cash back reward system of 3% and 4% for all purchases. They have an annual fee, but these cards are also better than airline cards unless you fly a particular airline a lot.
By the way, I was looking at United flights from the south eastern seaboard USA to Asia. United was asking around $1500 for coach roundtrip to BKK and / or Manila. By chance I checked on roundtrips to Jakarta and it was only $1024. All United's Asian flights had the same routing through Houston and Narita then individual ANA connecting flights to their respective destinations in Asia. So I will spend a week getting warmed up in Jakarta and then fly Air Asia for approx $100 one way to BKK. Later, I will fly Philippine Air or Cebu Pacific from Manila back to Jakarta. Airlines suck. Don't get me even started on seat spacing and leg room. They treat us worse than stray dogs.
You, sir, have established a standard for comprehensive, informative and authoritative sex reporting. Wish I were young again in Bangkok. With no offence for anybody I think Sir Lancelot is not in his primary age. (a merit!
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