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Smoothy
03-14-17, 05:20
Skills of the girls mean little to me if they are ugly so I did not try.Beauty is subjective. I don't believe I've ever seen you post a pic of any girl you have gone with.

FormulaOneFan
03-14-17, 06:08
Beauty is subjective. I don't believe I've ever seen you post a pic of any girl you have gone with.I've never met Syz, but I know of many of his top girls in FKK land. He does like the stunners.

Member #4698
03-14-17, 06:25
You taste is very similar to mine. I agree with your bar selection. I went into Mitu and was shown the girl pics. The only one that appealed at all was not working. I don't think they have much for our taste. Yeah we share similar tastes in Asian girls, but the interesting thing is the different way we arrive at the relatively same destination. You are more analytical than I am studying symmetries and comparative features. I am more American, 555, in my approach and just know what I like when I see it. Friends have noted that many, if not most of my girls, all seem to have a similar look regardless of nationality or ethnic origin including my Colombian and Brazilian girls from my early years. What can I say? I like them cute & sexy; with tight little bodies ie small breasts / butts / no tummie rolls and relatively innocent fresh faces and then the closer; friendly demure dispositions.


Beauty is subjective. I don't believe I've ever seen you post a pic of any girl you have gone with.I have seen pictures of some of Syzygies's girls and we even have a few sexy friends in common. I can attest that he has strong preferences, perhaps stronger than mine, but he knows what he likes and he goes out there and gets it. Which is not too different from you or me.

BTW, I like some of your Jakarta girls, they are sexy and cute too. I am looking forward to my upcoming visit to Jakarta in a few weeks after I reluctantly leave BKK. Malio/Malioboro is my favorite bordello in Asia.

P.S. I arrived at CH around 8:45 last night. B arrived around 8:45. We then had a wonderful, intimate one on one. Syzygies, B is a demure and relatively shy girl. She put her hand over my eyes to prevent me from looking up and seeing her facial expression as I licked her pussy, then she abandoned the blind when her sexual feelings got the better of her. I can assure you B is no longer dick scared, at least not scared of my dick. LOL. She also likes to kiss and palm other girl's breasts which makes her a lot of fun in threesomes with P. P is coming back to BKK tomorrow. Yeah!

I love BKK.

FormulaOneFan
03-14-17, 07:38
At Natty. I envy your long trip. I thought six nights would be almost too much for me, but I'm remorseful that I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm debating what my last afternoon / evening agenda should be; I want to take another trip to The Lord, probably hit some GoGo's again for the music and the experience of the chaos that these clubs are, and of course after last night's GFE experience with my gal from Thermae, I'm super tempted to show up there early and just take her for the entire evening rather than waiting until after 11 pm.

And of course there is always a quick trip to an oily or BJ bar to pass some time.

Decisions decisions.

FormulaOneFan
03-14-17, 09:36
Decided to go checkout Mango; figured it's one of the more talked about shops and it's a short walk from my hotel. Lineup was six girls; I had read that Prae gets generally positive reviews, but she was busy. Picked based on looks. Face and body, making sure to avoid yesterday's mistake of getting a hidden belly. Ended up choosing Ae. Natural bee cups, probably late 20's / early 30's by her look, and an acceptable figure once derobed. Shower, and asked to skip the precursor massage and straight to the action. LFK turned into DFK, and the BBBJ progressed into 69 that went on for a good 15-20 mins. Cap on and some good energetic fucking in a few positions before I blew.

Good experience. Best so far in an oily for me. Not mind blowing by any measure, but solid.

Damage 2100 + 500 tip.

Guh
03-14-17, 09:55
Decided to go checkout Mango; figured it's one of the more talked about shops and it's a short walk from my hotel. Lineup was six girls; I had read that Prae gets generally positive reviews, but she was busy. Picked based on looks. Face and body, making sure to avoid yesterday's mistake of getting a hidden belly. Ended up choosing Ae. Natural bee cups, probably late 20's / early 30's by her look, and an acceptable figure once derobed. Shower, and asked to skip the precursor massage and straight to the action. LFK turned into DFK, and the BBBJ progressed into 69 that went on for a good 15-20 mins. Cap on and some good energetic fucking in a few positions before I blew.

Good experience. Best so far in an oily for me. Not mind blowing by any measure, but solid.

Damage 2100 + 500 tip.Can confirm your experience, was there last week and they have about 3 new girls that lock really hot! And as well the "older" staff like Anna are always a very good option as the quality was always good when I went there.

Never get disappointed so far over there. Maybe I was just lucky.

Wiild
03-14-17, 12:41
#80 named Nam Dtaan at Crazy House? biggest gigantic silicone boobs. Thanks XratedBangkok. I am looking for girls with larger silicone boobs, except for Crazy House, where should I look? On previous trips a few years ago I did not find much in the category, but things might have changed?

FormulaOneFan
03-14-17, 14:22
Thanks XratedBangkok. I am looking for girls with larger silicone boobs, except for Crazy House, where should I look? On previous trips a few years ago I did not find much in the category, but things might have changed?She's definitely the biggest I've seen this trip, but I haven't extensively samoled the gogo bars. Seen a fair bit of silicon on FLs and at massage joints, but nothing at the scale of her bolt ONS.

FormulaOneFan
03-14-17, 14:27
Decided to revisit The Lord after a short rest. Line up was decent sized, and the girl I went with yesterday was present, but I hate to say it but nothing struck my fancy. Spent about 45 mins there having a beer and a few smokes while deciding if any girl was to my taste, and then decided to leave. Not a dig on Lord, more likely my waning energy and desire for a great punt on my last day.

Tonight will likely be similar to last night; gogo and thermae deciding between a sure good time and something new.

Syzygies
03-14-17, 15:08
Beauty is subjective. I don't believe I've ever seen you post a pic of any girl you have gone with.I certainly have in the past. In more recent years I have posted pics of girls from former times or recent girls with head omitted for privacy of the girl.

I would certainly post pics if could be sure they would not be misused or cause trouble for someone.

Maybe I could post a girl and quickly delete it again. LOL

I can tell you I like cute little upturned natural noses and faces not very broad at all. Skinny faces if any but not sunken cheeks. So no round faces or square faces. Slightly large lips is nice. Angela Jolie when she was young. LOL

Syzygies
03-14-17, 15:15
Natty,

I don't have to analyse all of a girls measurements to know if I think she is gorgeous. It can take just one second. I only analyse afterwards in order to examplain roughly what is my spec. Other guys who need voluptuous or pornstars can ignore my skinny girl recommendations.

Silicones or weird noses often do put me off girls unless they are very well done surgeries.

Naturally was highly attracted to that Suzi girl in just one second. Unfortunately first time saw her, she was sitting on some other guy's lap.

I am very sure you would like Donut from Crazy House but unfortunately she hardly ever works there any more. I will probably return to BKK Saturday, and so will check if Donut is working at all.

XXL
03-14-17, 17:42
So no round faces or square faces. Slightly large lips is nice. ..I suspect men who are into round or broad faces are also into swarthy women rather than into skinny women. A broad face goes together with a broadish body rather than a vertically elongated body. I remember a man telling me oval faces put him off. I found that strange since I like faces to be oval (with the larger axes being the vertical one of course). In a woman I like everything that points to upward growth (apical dominance).

FormulaOneFan
03-14-17, 20:07
After my failed attempt at Lord, I had a nice dinner and contemplated my options. Since I had dinner near Nana, I decided to walk back towards Asok and pop into Thermae to see if my girl was there. I walked in, got a drink, and then went to use the bathroom. On the way I saw she was present and I briefly said Hello, on my way to relieve myself. I wandered back not more than 5 mins later and she was GONE! This was about 930 pm; not sure if she was still around or had found business, I hung around for a few minutes and did a couple of laps to make sure I didn't miss her. Nope, she was gone. Decided to head to Soi Cowboy to see what was up. Baccarat was crazy packed (all 3 floors), as was CH. Had a drink at Baccarat and then popped into a couple of other GoGo's to check things out. Amazing how most other bars are almost empty and 2-3 dominate the scene. Anyway, it was getting to be 1030 ish, so I figured what the hell, I'll wander back to Thermae one last time. As I start a lap after getting a drink I spot her again. She was back, so I didn't waste any time this time around. Figuring it was my last night, and I didn't want just a quick one and done, we wandered towards my hotel and got a table at Indulge and chatted as best we could with her broken english, my no thai, and the loud street. We each had a couple of drinks and then we headed to my room. Needless to say night 3 was even more GFE and fun than the previous night. Friendly playful sex with every aspect that 'non-pro' experiences have. It was a great way to end my BKK adventure for sure. I would have asked her to stay the night (she would have), but I have to catch a cab at 6 am tomorrow, so it made more sense for us to say our goodbyes and call it a night. We exchanged info and if I'm back in BKK anytime soon I will make sure to look her up.

FoF signing off for now.

Wiild
03-14-17, 20:36
She's definitely the biggest I've seen this trip, but I haven't extensively samoled the gogo bars. Seen a fair bit of silicon on FLs and at massage joints, but nothing at the scale of her bolt ONS.Thanks FormulaOneFan I will start at Crazy House and also check out rainbow 2. Re: Freelancers: I wonder if the Dance / Night-Clubs like Sugar, Climax, Insanity or Narz could have some enhanced-busty freelancing talent. Thermae and Lords are also on my to-do list after reading your posts as I like different scenes and environments.

Alex7J
03-14-17, 22:46
Thanks FormulaOneFan I will start at Crazy House and also check out rainbow 2. Re: Freelancers: I wonder if the Dance / Night-Clubs like Sugar, Climax, Insanity or Narz could have some enhanced-busty freelancing talent. Thermae and Lords are also on my to-do list after reading your posts as I like different scenes and environments.You can add MIXX, Spasso, OSKAR, Shock 39 , Levels, Ce La Vie, Bossy to your collection of night clubs. Narz I think is a thing of the past last time I was there in April it was a ghost place nothing at all.

Cheers: Have fun.

Peace.

Goatscrot
03-15-17, 03:07
I suspect men who are into round or broad faces are also into swarthy women rather than into skinny women. A broad face goes together with a broadish body rather than a vertically elongated body. I remember a man telling me oval faces put him off. I found that strange since I like faces to be oval (with the larger axes being the vertical one of course). In a woman I like everything that points to upward growth (apical dominance).Swarthy means dark-skinned. Not sure how that relates to skinny or broad. I like well proportioned women who are not too thin, but for sure not fat or broad. I do like oval or almond shaped faces.

Syzygies
03-15-17, 15:03
I suspect men who are into round or broad faces are also into swarthy women rather than into skinny women. A broad face goes together with a broadish body rather than a vertically elongated body. I remember a man telling me oval faces put him off. I found that strange since I like faces to be oval (with the larger axes being the vertical one of course). In a woman I like everything that points to upward growth (apical dominance).You have me bamboozled. Swarthy is a strange word to use, very old fashioned and slightly derogatory or possibly with racist overtones 50+ years ago I imagine (maybe not), and never comes up here, and I guess you intended something else, since does not seem to have anything to do with skinny or non skinny.

I see I am just repeating Goatscrot, in a way.

XXL
03-15-17, 18:37
Swarthy means dark-skinned. Not sure how that relates to skinny or broad. I like well proportioned women who are not too thin, but for sure not fat or broad. I do like oval or almond shaped faces.I meant stocky.

Robert Long
03-15-17, 18:45
Thanks FormulaOneFan I will start at Crazy House and also check out rainbow 2. Re: Freelancers: I wonder if the Dance / Night-Clubs like Sugar, Climax, Insanity or Narz could have some enhanced-busty freelancing talent. Thermae and Lords are also on my to-do list after reading your posts as I like different scenes and environments.What you find and take away might turn into a "Coyote Ugly", situation. Those ladies wear a lot of makeup and in the low light they look great. Don't use the small head to make your choice. Take the one you choose into the light and then proceed.

RL.

Wiild
03-15-17, 23:03
Take the one you choose into the light and then proceed.RL.Thanks for the wise words RL! . to me the game, the hunt in the dark can sometimes be more satisfyiying and fulfilling than the end-game in the bright room. But I will be cautious, promise!

WarmStone25
03-16-17, 00:19
What you find and take away might turn into a "Coyote Ugly", situation. Those ladies wear a lot of makeup and in the low light they look great. Don't use the small head to make your choice. Take the one you choose into the

RL.In my recent visit to Soi Cowboy I noted the use of red lights above the stage and at the side of the bars. This is to enhance the appearance of the skin. It was exciting to see the girls naked on the bar in CH. Later, when I returned to CH from another bar I saw some of the girls on the street outside having a smoke and eating. They wore nice robes, but I could not help but think how ordinary they looked. It must be difficult to make a judgement of appearance in the bar or indeed also outside the bar if the neon lights are on. What you need is a flashlight with a natural daylight lamp.

Goatscrot
03-16-17, 02:17
In my recent visit to Soi Cowboy I noted the use of red lights above the stage and at the side of the bars. This is to enhance the appearance of the skin. It was exciting to see the girls naked on the bar in CH. Later, when I returned to CH from another bar I saw some of the girls on the street outside having a smoke and eating. They wore nice robes, but I could not help but think how ordinary they looked. It must be difficult to make a judgement of appearance in the bar or indeed also outside the bar if the neon lights are on. What you need is a flashlight with a natural daylight lamp.Red lights have been a mainstay of BKK GoGo bars for as long as I can remember. And yes, it is to make the gals look better. Most are dark skinned Isaan gals, who in the light of day would not turn your head in the least. These days so many have surgery to get rid of the flat nose, the square jaw, and other features that to many men make them less than attractive. In GoGo, Thermae, and other venues these days the number of gals with sub-par surgeries is overwhelming. Stay here long enough and you will see through the illusion created by those lights and surgeries and the GoGo gals won't look good at all and neither will most of the FLs.

PinkPearl
03-16-17, 07:22
Red lights have been a mainstay of BKK GoGo bars for as long as I can remember. And yes, it is to make the gals look better. Most are dark skinned Isaan gals, who in the light of day would not turn your head in the least. These days so many have surgery to get rid of the flat nose, the square jaw, and other features that to many men make them less than attractive. In GoGo, Thermae, and other venues these days the number of gals with sub-par surgeries is overwhelming. Stay here long enough and you will see through the illusion created by those lights and surgeries and the GoGo gals won't look good at all and neither will most of the FLs.Personally I don't find the often occurring wide Thai nose of Thai sex workers to be attractive. Nor the skin that was born tanned.

OTOH the often full, great for BBBJs & smooching, Angelina Jolie type lips, slim short bodies, round little bubble butts, long straight black or dyed red hair, is magnificent.

When added to all they have to offer in submissive shy attitudes, great service, a most excellent menu & dirt cheap prices, it's like having died and gone to heaven.

To my tastes, I don't imagine any surgery on the wide nosed ones would not be an improvement.

Gunnerre
03-16-17, 18:39
Guys,

I tried a lot all over the world and of course all of us like different things but the Milking Table with ME2 and EE1 was something I will remember. Some would claim it is possible to find better looking girls but in the end it is the pleasing attitude that counts for me. And it was never better. They were literally spinning around on my command. They tried so hard to please me. It was like they took it so seriously they started to whisper together doing my dick the second time. The included anal was too harmful for them that we gave up in the end but again they tried so hard. We also had a fun time together and they seemed to be happy in my company. When they saw the person I am they could even take it a little rough. But as always you will have to balance and see how far the girl will go. So be nice to them and they will pay you back with all they have. The table itself was not the turning point but the girls were.

Solo Traveler
03-16-17, 20:03
That would help, but talking with the girls, those guys also have a reputation for bar fining the girls then having 10 other guys waiting in the room to gang bang the girl. It's not just that they are cheap. There are multiple reasons they ban those guys.WTF, only 1 guy pays and other 10 guys want a share for free. That's being cheap at its finest. LOL.

Similar joke will be 1 guy paying for buffet entry for 2 hours, and all his friends are waiting outside of the restaurant, taking turns to get in with every one eating for 10 minutes. LOL.

By the way, by the time I'm typing this, I just saw a Bangladeshi guy haggling for room price at the hotel reception for nearly an hour. LOL.

Indy Hundred
03-17-17, 05:46
First time to Thailand and was in BKK for three weekdays. I didn't think I would have any down time to relax but after RTFF, it turns out my hotel is fairly close to Patpong and I decide to hit a Blowjob bar. I don't want to waste time ogling, don't want to waste time chatting to see if there is chemistry, just get a blowjob and leave. So, I head to Star of Light. Thanks to the forum, I was able to find it easily.

Walk up to the bar and there are girls sitting outside the door. The girl closest to the door stands up, opens the door and welcomes me in. I go inside and oh my, this place is very very small! It's like the complete opposite of the TARDIS. A lot smaller on the inside. I have taken one step in and I am touching the bar with my right hand and my left leg is touching the mamasans knees as she is sitting on the couch. For some reason, I thought for sure there would be more girls inside but no. This is a super small bar. I step back outside, look at the other girls and decide that the girl that opened the door for me would do. I ask for a beer and Lek goes and gets me a cold Chang and her kit. She takes me to the back room which is really a bathroom with a sitting area. Lek starts preparing and I desperately need to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) but at the same time I have an erection. So, I am standing over the urinal trying to take a leak and nothing is coming out because I am hard. After about a minute of standing there and realizing I am having plumbing issues, Lek comes over and grabs my cock from behind me. It's super sexy that she is holding my dick over the urinal and I am sure she was just trying to help but her massaging makes me ever harder. And harder to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). I finally take a leak while Lek is holding my dick and then she walks me by my cock over to the sitting area. There are two triangle seats and she has put a towel down on one. I take off my pants, sit down and Lek starts licking. No cleaning, no antiseptic wipes just a straight tongue cleaning. What an awesome blowjob. This girl is super talented. Drinking beer, watching Leks head go up and down, playing with her tits and she was so accomodating. At one point I stood up and asked her to lick my balls while I teabagged her. I cum in her mouth, she spits it out into a napkin, and then she grabs my cock again, stands me up, pulls me over to the sink and gives my cock a nice washing. I love this place!

Went back to the bar and there were two other punters in there. Each sitting down on one of the couches and getting their knobs sucked. I still hadn't finished my beer so I took a seat at the bar, bought Lek a Lady's Drink (150 THB). Lek isn't much of a talker but she smiles and she started giving me a nice back rub. Not sure what the protocol here would be: I am sitting at a bar getting a back rub and two punters are right next to me getting BJs. One of them was moaning quite a bit and then stopped when I came and sat at the bar. Do you acknowledge your fellow punter, do you go over and give them a high five, do you avoid eye contact completely? I finished my beer, paid, tipped Lek and left without making eye contact.

Got back to the hotel and felt a little disappointed that I hadn't stayed longer so I make a plan to return the next day. I get there around 1 PM and there are about half a dozen girls but no Lek. Mamasan tells me Lek will be here around 2:00 and encourages me to grab another girl. I go back outside and grab Sie. Late 20's, skinny and short with pigtails. There was also a heavily pregnant girl there (7-8 months) but that's not my thing (even though her tits looked really big. Just saying).

When I chose Sie, she jumped up, smiling like she had just been choosen to come on down for The Price is Right. We go inside, order a Chang and she takes me to the back room. Again, I have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)! (I don't know why but Thailand is really really hot and I am sweating like a beast and I think I need to drink water like an elephant to compensate for all the water I am sweating). So, I go to the urinal and same thing. I can't take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) because I have an erection. Too funny. Finally [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), sit down, Sie is waiting for me on her knees and she cleans my cock with a sanitary wipe. She puts on baby oil and goes to town. Lots of tongue action, ball rubbing and eye contact, oh my god it felt good. This was total cock worship. For 10 minutes she just kept on sucking me. What a trooper. We finish, she cleans me with another wipe and I go and sit down on one of the couches.

I buy Sie a Ladys Drink and she sits with me with her hand rubbing my cock. In the meantime, another punter had walked in and he is a regular. Lucky bastard. Sits down, a girl brings him a Diet Coke and her and the pregnant girl start sucking him off.

In ten minutes, I am hard again and start fooling around with her. I have taken off her top and she is sitting on my legs while I am sucking on her tits. I ask if I can touch her pussy and she takes off her underwear and hikes up her skirt. I am sucking on her tits, finger in her pussy and drinking Chang beer. Other girls are starting to come in now and because this bar is so small, they are changing out of their street cloths and into their work cloths right in front of me! I point to the tits of one of the girls changing and give her a thumbs up. She comes over and with the palms of my hands together, I say "Sawardi-krap" to each of her tits. Everyone gets a good laugh out of that one. She bends over and shakes her tits over my lips.

I am still fooling around with Sie and I ask her for a blowjob. She gets her kit, wipes me clean, puts baby oil on. Meanwhile, next door, the non-pregnant girl sits on a bar stool facing the punter and starts masterbating in front of him. And me. This is so hot. A girl is getting ready to give me a blowjob, I am watching a guy get sucked off by a pregnant chick, a girl is fingering herself and other girls are undressing.

Sie keeps sucking me off and the girl that shook her tits in front of me comes over and asks if she can have my sperm? I check with Sie who is concentrating on sucking me off and she agrees. Sham joins in and she has a very talented and soft lips. She definitely has more experience and tells Sie what to do like "mouth on each side of cock". So good. Since I had just cum, it was taking me a while to cum again but I was hard and truly enjoying every second of it. The other punter has taken off so it's just me and all the girls in the bar. We tried so many positions. At one point I had my middle fingers in Sie's and Sham's pussies while their lips were teasing my cock. In another, Sham asked if I wanted to "boom-boom" Sie while she licks my balls. Very tempting but I was really enjoying myself so didn't bother. So many positions, so many smiles. Lek walked in halfway through, she sees me, I shout out her name and she sees I am smiling and happy. Three girls? Not today. About 25 minutes or so of sucking me off, the mamasan says something and Sham tells me that they might stop in ten minutes. I am fine with this as they have been really good so far and continue to enjoy this amazing blowjob. In about 5 minutes, I stand up and start to jerk off while Sie licks my balls and Sham is ready with her open mouth right in front of my dick. Lek and another girl are standing next to the bar and start watching. Lek is gyrating and cheering me on. Beautiful.

Afterwards, I buy a Lady's Drink for both girls, we sit together, we chat. These girls were so much fun. They mentioned that if I took them to short time hotel, it would be a lot more relaxed and all I would have to do is lie there and they would do everything. They shared stories with me about punters coming in and doing some crazy things like having the girls line up and getting blowjobs as they went down the line. Star of Light really is an amazing Blowjob Bar. I love this place and I hope I come back to Thailand again.

FormulaOneFan
03-17-17, 06:19
Had such a good time in BKK the past week I'm already planning a return sooner than initially planned. Hoping to re-connect with my gal from Thermae (we've been chatting via WhatsApp) and possibly take her to the beach for the weekend or something. If only BKK was closer.

RacShack
03-17-17, 10:30
Guys,

I tried a lot all over the world and of course all of us like different things but the Milking Table with ME2 and EE1 was something I will remember. Some would claim it is possible to find better looking girls but in the end it is the pleasing attitude that counts for me. And it was never better. They were literally spinning around on my command. They tried so hard to please me. It was like they took it so seriously they started to whisper together doing my dick the second time. The included anal was too harmful for them that we gave up in the end but again they tried so hard. We also had a fun time together and they seemed to be happy in my company. When they saw the person I am they could even take it a little rough. But as always you will have to balance and see how far the girl will go. So be nice to them and they will pay you back with all they have. The table itself was not the turning point but the girls were.This is suspect, the table was nothing like in the ad,(small and dirty) they did not even bring something to cove table, both girls turned their checks on way in door when I tried to kiss them, no what they advertise at all, one smelled like smoke asked if she could smoke on balcony before she showered! What a joke, not gfx at all, while in shower would not let me touch them, keep saying when we go back to table, that was it I sent them packing! Give the non smoker 1,00 o bat for her troubles (I must of been in good mood) I don't smell and even had a suite at Lebua, horrible horrible horrible experience, I was so looking forward to it and was junk!

Christian G
03-17-17, 11:21
Guys,

I tried a lot all over the world and of course all of us like different things but the Milking Table with ME2 and EE1 was something I will remember. Some would claim it is possible to find better looking girls but in the end it is the pleasing attitude that counts for me. And it was never better. They were literally spinning around on my command. They tried so hard to please me. It was like they took it so seriously they started to whisper together doing my dick the second time. The included anal was too harmful for them that we gave up in the end but again they tried so hard. We also had a fun time together and they seemed to be happy in my company. When they saw the person I am they could even take it a little rough. But as always you will have to balance and see how far the girl will go. So be nice to them and they will pay you back with all they have. The table itself was not the turning point but the girls were.Do you talking about this one? http://www.bangkokbbw.com/services.

CrapeDiem
03-17-17, 12:12
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".

The car crosses the town, I look a last time at the sea and this wave that will never reach the moon and dies on the shore. My phone vibrates, Ni, Na and Nang have recognized me at the traffic light and sent me a text with a sad face. I take the opportunity to text Uncle V to thank him for his tips, I had a great time. We leave the city for palm trees and rice fields, the green landscape is amazing. Some peasants are beating a poor bull to plough through a muddy field"faster Victor Newman, faster, we have to finish before dawn". Sad life, he could have lived in a nice farm in Brittany. I think about all these girls, Na had such a tight anus, it was amazing, though it was unfortunate she had diarrhea. Ni was great, I loved kissing her pussy and eating the mushrooms around it, a bit like a "langue de boeuf" I used to have at home when entering winter. Na had the sauce. "Did you have a good time?" asks Jo looking at me through the mirror. "Oh you cannot imagine" I reply. Jo adds that he has good addresses in Bangkok. "I am not sure I will have time, I have to catch up with so many girls first, maybe I should organize some gangbangs to save time". Jo replies "you have such a health man! A real dark horse! Everybody talks about you at Pattaya".

I fall asleep. Suddenly I wake up, I have jizzed in my pants. Usually at this time I have already fucked one or two girls. My organism got quickly used to it. Half an hour later we arrive in the suburbs of Bangkok, I then recognize the street and the nana hotel. The nana-hotel, a well established brothel, an institution. Jo takes out my bag and gives me his business card for girls for later. I thank him and generously tip him 10 bahts. "Hello Mr. Crapediem" greets the porter. "Ni, Nan and Piaan" are waiting for you in your usual suit". I enter the room. The porter wants to enter, I tell him to go back to the lobby. Ni comes towards me, she is naked, she got a bit fatter since last year. Her pussy is shouting "hungry, I am hungry", it is smooth and shiny, I take off my genuine fake reeban. Nan shows me her brown hole, such a beauty, I look closer and kiss it, so tasty. Then Piaan arrives, well she has a little willy instead of a pussy. Diversity is great isn't it?

The session last one hour. The three girls cannot walk anymore, I have to call the porter to bring a trolley and kick them out. I go outside on the busy streets. It is chaotic. I manage to find a quiet bar, "the post office" and order a mango juice. It is 2 pm and I take the opportunity to go for a massage. I feel good and I am horny again. I usually separate sex and massage, but I will make an exception. My intuition was right! The lady has an electric foufou! Like Louis de Funes, I get electric shocks when I enter my tongue.

Then I stop at La Poste, order a mango juice. I take my phone and read my favorite blog and once again the advice of FormulaOne. I know the Soi Cowboy very well and head towards it. I go in the first bar, girls are not up to my taste, I show my heels and raise my arm "sub-standard". I enter the following bar "me love you long time", I like that, it sounds like Victor. Hugo or Baudelaire, such a beautiful verse. "me love you long time", long time? You won't be able to work for the rest of the season! I feel so horny that I pay her the LD immediately and fuck her on the till ST, VST! Other customers are a bit shocked, well, I don't prevent them from joining us. That was the aperitive, I then seat at the back of the bar. The NaughtyBhave has hired two new girls this year. I ask the monger, "they are very fresh, straight from Cambodia, with all their legs and arms, very rare on the market! Cambodia. I am afraid of finding a landmine in the pussy. I order another mango juice and notice I am short of cash. I decide to head towards the nana to find a cheap WG on the street. I find one, she is very old, her fifties. I like cougars. She tells me she can do anything I ask her for 5 bahts. She adds that her anus is still very tight, 2. 5 cm diameter maximum and shows it to me. I finger her on the street, good quality. I bring her to my bedroom and enlarge her anus to 4. 8 cm. She will have to retire. She leaves, crying, the end of her career at Bangkok. I take out my diary and adds "+1". Tomorrow I will reach 20, the target a friend fixed me to get a free pint at the Cock Inn. I switch off the light and text my wife "the sun is piercing clouds, I am having lunch with Thierry."

D Cups
03-17-17, 16:30
Hi Indy, I realize I could google location but where is it? Did you see any big boob girls? Thanks for the entertaining post. Especially the protocol for multiple knob polishings right there at the bar. Hilarious.


amazing Blowjob Bar. I love this place and I hope I come back to Thailand again..

Oosik
03-18-17, 09:05
I realize I could google location but where is it?Patpong. Patpong 2 if I recall correctly. Only went there once about seven years ago.

Member #4591
03-18-17, 10:08
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".

The car crosses the town, I look a last time at the sea and this wave that will never reach the moon and dies on the shore. My phone vibrates, Ni, Na and Nang have recognized me at the traffic light and sent me a text with a sad face. I take the opportunity to text Uncle V to thank him for his tips, I had a great time. We leave the city for palm trees and rice fields, the green landscape is amazing. Some peasants are beating a poor bull to plough through a muddy field"faster Victor Newman, faster, we have to finish before dawn". Sad life, he could have lived in a nice farm in Brittany. I think about all these girls, Na had such a tight anus, it was amazing, though it was unfortunate she had diarrhea. Ni was great, I loved kissing her pussy and eating the mushrooms around it, a bit like a "langue de boeuf" I used to have at home when entering winter. Na had the sauce. "Did you have a good time?" asks Jo looking at me through the mirror. "Oh you cannot imagine" I reply. Jo adds that he has good addresses in Bangkok. "I am not sure I will have time, I have to catch up with so many girls first, maybe I should organize some gangbangs to save time". Jo replies "you have such a health man! A real dark horse! Everybody talks about you at Pattaya".

I fall asleep. Suddenly I wake up, I have jizzed in my pants. Usually at this time I have already fucked one or two girls. My organism got quickly used to it. Half an hour later we arrive in the suburbs of Bangkok, I then recognize the street and the nana hotel. The nana-hotel, a well established brothel, an institution. Jo takes out my bag and gives me his business card for girls for later. I thank him and generously tip him 10 bahts. "Hello Mr. Crapediem" greets the porter. "Ni, Nan and Piaan" are waiting for you in your usual suit". I enter the room. The porter wants to enter, I tell him to go back to the lobby. Ni comes towards me, she is naked, she got a bit fatter since last year. Her pussy is shouting "hungry, I am hungry", it is smooth and shiny, I take off my genuine fake reeban. Nan shows me her brown hole, such a beauty, I look closer and kiss it, so tasty. Then Piaan arrives, well she has a little willy instead of a pussy. Diversity is great isn't it?

The session last one hour. The three girls cannot walk anymore, I have to call the porter to bring a trolley and kick them out. I go outside on the busy streets. It is chaotic. I manage to find a quiet bar, "the post office" and order a mango juice. It is 2 pm and I take the opportunity to go for a massage. I feel good and I am horny again. I usually separate sex and massage, but I will make an exception. My intuition was right! The lady has an electric foufou! Like Louis de Funes, I get electric shocks when I enter my tongue.

Then I stop at La Poste, order a mango juice. I take my phone and read my favorite blog and once again the advice of FormulaOne. I know the Soi Cowboy very well and head towards it. I go in the first bar, girls are not up to my taste, I show my heels and raise my arm "sub-standard". I enter the following bar "me love you long time", I like that, it sounds like Victor. Hugo or Baudelaire, such a beautiful verse. "me love you long time", long time? You won't be able to work for the rest of the season! I feel so horny that I pay her the LD immediately and fuck her on the till ST, VST! Other customers are a bit shocked, well, I don't prevent them from joining us. That was the aperitive, I then seat at the back of the bar. The NaughtyBhave has hired two new girls this year. I ask the monger, "they are very fresh, straight from Cambodia, with all their legs and arms, very rare on the market! Cambodia. I am afraid of finding a landmine in the pussy. I order another mango juice and notice I am short of cash. I decide to head towards the nana to find a cheap WG on the street. I find one, she is very old, her fifties. I like cougars. She tells me she can do anything I ask her for 5 bahts. She adds that her anus is still very tight, 2. 5 cm diameter maximum and shows it to me. I finger her on the street, good quality. I bring her to my bedroom and enlarge her anus to 4. 8 cm. She will have to retire. She leaves, crying, the end of her career at Bangkok. I take out my diary and adds "+1". Tomorrow I will reach 20, the target a friend fixed me to get a free pint at the Cock Inn. I switch off the light and text my wife "the sun is piercing clouds, I am having lunch with Thierry."Well that was a very entertaining report, especially as post number 1. Unfortunately it is lacking any useful information and is written like we should know you already because you have been a forum member for years. Are you an existing member who has opened a 2nd account?

What would be useful to know would be how much was the ride from Pattaya to Bangkok? Who did you book the ladies with that were waiting in your hotel room in Bangkok? Were they freelancers or do they work for an agency? What were their rates? Other than he girls names from Skyfall in Pattaya, what else can you tell us about your experience in Pattaya? What were the good Soi 6 bars?

Wiild
03-18-17, 10:42
"I order a mango juice" "Classic! I am looking forward to day 2 of this epic adventure.

ThreeLilBirds
03-18-17, 13:20
The three girls cannot walk anymore, I have to call the porter to bring a trolley and kick them out.I don't care that this is probably all [Deleted by Admin] it was an incredibly funny read. Hahahah I love it.

Penguin69
03-18-17, 17:43
Its good to read that white western guys can have successes in Thermae as opposed to the girls having interest solely in Japanese and locals, for example.

Am wondering if you stay at the hotel above Thermae whether you can take freelancers to the room without problems / questions / payments etc. Any thoughts?

Robert Long
03-18-17, 19:18
QUOTE=ThreeLilBirds;2011277.

I don't care that this is probably all it was an incredibly funny read. Hahahah I love it.

For a high roller I question the Nana Hotel, the tipping of 10 and 5 baht and the excessive mango drinks. The BKKdog has also taken a bite by asking some very good questions.

RL.

Smoothy
03-18-17, 19:28
WTF, only 1 guy pays and other 10 guys want a share for free. That's being cheap at its finest. LOL.It's [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

PinkPearl
03-18-17, 19:37
Its good to read that white western guys can have successes in Thermae as opposed to the girls having interest solely in Japanese and locals, for example.

Am wondering if you stay at the hotel above Thermae whether you can take freelancers to the room without problems / questions / payments etc. Any thoughts?I'd suggest checking out the 100's of reviews on hotel booking sites, such as booking dot com.

They'll tell you just about anything you want to know about a hotel.

Alternately it's not that far to, say, for example, Nana Hotel, from Thermae. Maybe a 15 minute brisk walk, or faster by vehicle. Or other nearby hotels well known to take FLs without problems, questions or fees.

MagicSheep74
03-18-17, 23:55
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".

The car crosses the town, I look a last time at the sea and this wave that will never reach the moon and dies on the shore. My phone vibrates, Ni, Na and Nang have recognized me at the traffic light and sent me a text with a sad face. I take the opportunity to text Uncle V to thank him for his tips, I had a great time. We leave the city for palm trees and rice fields, the green landscape is amazing. Some peasants are beating a poor bull to plough through a muddy field"faster Victor Newman, faster, we have to finish before dawn". Sad life, he could have lived in a nice farm in Brittany. I think about all these girls, Na had such a tight anus, it was amazing, though it was unfortunate she had diarrhea. Ni was great, I loved kissing her pussy and eating the mushrooms around it, a bit like a "langue de boeuf" I used to have at home when entering winter. Na had the sauce. "Did you have a good time?" asks Jo looking at me through the mirror. "Oh you cannot imagine" I reply. Jo adds that he has good addresses in Bangkok..You are either a comedy genius or completely insane, please keep writing! Brilliant.

Franciscass
03-19-17, 06:20
Well that was a very entertaining report, especially as post number 1. Unfortunately it is lacking any useful information and is written like we should know you already because you have been a forum member for years. Are you an existing member who has opened a 2nd account?

What would be useful to know would be how much was the ride from Pattaya to Bangkok? Who did you book the ladies with that were waiting in your hotel room in Bangkok? Were they freelancers or do they work for an agency? What were their rates? Other than he girls names from Skyfall in Pattaya, what else can you tell us about your experience in Pattaya? What were the good Soi 6 bars?Methinks it's a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) take creative sometimes humorous somewhat self-indulgent but still enjoyable daydream before waking up god knows where.

BionicMan
03-19-17, 10:16
Well that was a very entertaining report, especially as post number 1. Unfortunately it is lacking any useful information and is written like we should know you already because you have been a forum member for years. Are you an existing member who has opened a 2nd account?

What would be useful to know would be how much was the ride from Pattaya to Bangkok? Who did you book the ladies with that were waiting in your hotel room in Bangkok? Were they freelancers or do they work for an agency? What were their rates? Other than he girls names from Skyfall in Pattaya, what else can you tell us about your experience in Pattaya? What were the good Soi 6 bars?I perdsnlly wonder also how the hotel allowed the three girls in the suite prior guest check in.

But maybe I am just wondering too much.

BkkMick
03-19-17, 10:36
I perdsnlly wonder also how the hotel allowed the three girls in the suite prior guest check in.

But maybe I am just wondering too much.Aside from the fact that it was obviously all written tongue in cheek, I have never had a problem taking 3 girls up to a suite. Booked a suite at the Column hotel on Soi 16 where we partied with 7 people. Also regularly have taken 2 girls up to my room at Citadines Soi 8 and 11. Even at the Sofitel Sukhumvit we partied with 5 people and never had any problems. I guess it all depends how the girls are dressed and if you look frazzled by the walk of shame. Hotel staff the world over will not stop you if you are self confident and the girl (s) on your side don't look too much out of place and know how to behave in a hotel.

Bugzy 69
03-19-17, 10:54
"I am afraid of finding a landmine in the pussy ".

Shot of the weekend bruv!

Sunlover2
03-19-17, 11:47
You are either a comedy genius or completely insane, please keep writing! Brilliant.Perhaps it is time for a Thailand fantasy chat thread in order to keep the existing discussions from getting mucked up.

SL.

GoodEnough
03-19-17, 11:55
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".

The car crosses the town, I look a last time at the sea and this wave that will never reach the moon and dies on the shore. My phone vibrates, Ni, Na and Nang have recognized me at the traffic light and sent me a text with a sad face. I take the opportunity to text Uncle V to thank him for his tips, I had a great time. We leave the city for palm trees and rice fields, the green landscape is amazing. Some peasants are beating a poor bull to plough through a muddy field"faster Victor Newman, faster, we have to finish before dawn". Sad life, he could have lived in a nice farm in Brittany. I think about all these girls, Na had such a tight anus, it was amazing, though it was unfortunate she had diarrhea. Ni was great, I loved kissing her pussy and eating the mushrooms around it, a bit like a "langue de boeuf" I used to have at home when entering winter. Na had the sauce. "Did you have a good time?" asks Jo looking at me through the mirror. "Oh you cannot imagine" I reply. Jo adds that he has good addresses in Bangkok. "I am not sure I will have time, I have to catch up with so many girls first, maybe I should organize some gangbangs to save time". Jo replies "you have such a health man! A real dark horse! Everybody talks about you at Pattaya".

I fall asleep. Suddenly I wake up, I have jizzed in my pants. Usually at this time I have already fucked one or two girls. My organism got quickly used to it. Half an hour later we arrive in the suburbs of Bangkok, I then recognize the street and the nana hotel. The nana-hotel, a well established brothel, an institution. Jo takes out my bag and gives me his business card for girls for later. I thank him and generously tip him 10 bahts. "Hello Mr. Crapediem" greets the porter. "Ni, Nan and Piaan" are waiting for you in your usual suit". I enter the room. The porter wants to enter, I tell him to go back to the lobby. Ni comes towards me, she is naked, she got a bit fatter since last year. Her pussy is shouting "hungry, I am hungry", it is smooth and shiny, I take off my genuine fake reeban. Nan shows me her brown hole, such a beauty, I look closer and kiss it, so tasty. Then Piaan arrives, well she has a little willy instead of a pussy. Diversity is great isn't it?

The session last one hour. The three girls cannot walk anymore, I have to call the porter to bring a trolley and kick them out. I go outside on the busy streets. It is chaotic. I manage to find a quiet bar, "the post office" and order a mango juice. It is 2 pm and I take the opportunity to go for a massage. I feel good and I am horny again. I usually separate sex and massage, but I will make an exception. My intuition was right! The lady has an electric foufou! Like Louis de Funes, I get electric shocks when I enter my tongue.

Then I stop at La Poste, order a mango juice. I take my phone and read my favorite blog and once again the advice of FormulaOne. I know the Soi Cowboy very well and head towards it. I go in the first bar, girls are not up to my taste, I show my heels and raise my arm "sub-standard". I enter the following bar "me love you long time", I like that, it sounds like Victor. Hugo or Baudelaire, such a beautiful verse. "me love you long time", long time? You won't be able to work for the rest of the season! I feel so horny that I pay her the LD immediately and fuck her on the till ST, VST! Other customers are a bit shocked, well, I don't prevent them from joining us. That was the aperitive, I then seat at the back of the bar. The NaughtyBhave has hired two new girls this year. I ask the monger, "they are very fresh, straight from Cambodia, with all their legs and arms, very rare on the market! Cambodia. I am afraid of finding a landmine in the pussy. I order another mango juice and notice I am short of cash. I decide to head towards the nana to find a cheap WG on the street. I find one, she is very old, her fifties. I like cougars. She tells me she can do anything I ask her for 5 bahts. She adds that her anus is still very tight, 2. 5 cm diameter maximum and shows it to me. I finger her on the street, good quality. I bring her to my bedroom and enlarge her anus to 4. 8 cm. She will have to retire. She leaves, crying, the end of her career at Bangkok. I take out my diary and adds "+1". Tomorrow I will reach 20, the target a friend fixed me to get a free pint at the Cock Inn. I switch off the light and text my wife "the sun is piercing clouds, I am having lunch with Thierry."Formidable! This is likely the sort of post Voltaire might have written, perhaps as an alternative to Candide, if he but had access to ISG and the Internet. Thanks for the witty satire. If the Cock Inn doesn't buy you a pint, I will should we ever meet.

GE.

World Travel 69
03-19-17, 16:50
This Map should help.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&hl=en&authuser=0&authuser=0&mid=1JsytdNc-5HFJnH8bOOuoHxREvG0&ll=13.734043218165464%2C100.54525311747307&z=16


Hi Indy, I realize I could google location but where is it? Did you see any big boob girls? Thanks for the entertaining post. Especially the protocol for multiple knob polishings right there at the bar. Hilarious.

.

FormulaOneFan
03-19-17, 20:14
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".

The car crosses the town, I look a last time at the sea and this wave that will never reach the moon and dies on the shore. My phone vibrates, Ni, Na and Nang have recognized me at the traffic light and sent me a text with a sad face. I take the opportunity to text Uncle V to thank him for his tips, I had a great time. We leave the city for palm trees and rice fields, the green landscape is amazing. Some peasants are beating a poor bull to plough through a muddy field"faster Victor Newman, faster, we have to finish before dawn". Sad life, he could have lived in a nice farm in Brittany. I think about all these girls, Na had such a tight anus, it was amazing, though it was unfortunate she had diarrhea. Ni was great, I loved kissing her pussy and eating the mushrooms around it, a bit like a "langue de boeuf" I used to have at home when entering winter. Na had the sauce. "Did you have a good time?" asks Jo looking at me through the mirror. "Oh you cannot imagine" I reply. Jo adds that he has good addresses in Bangkok. "I am not sure I will have time, I have to catch up with so many girls first, maybe I should organize some gangbangs to save time". Jo replies "you have such a health man! A real dark horse! Everybody talks about you at Pattaya".

I fall asleep. Suddenly I wake up, I have jizzed in my pants. Usually at this time I have already fucked one or two girls. My organism got quickly used to it. Half an hour later we arrive in the suburbs of Bangkok, I then recognize the street and the nana hotel. The nana-hotel, a well established brothel, an institution. Jo takes out my bag and gives me his business card for girls for later. I thank him and generously tip him 10 bahts. "Hello Mr. Crapediem" greets the porter. "Ni, Nan and Piaan" are waiting for you in your usual suit". I enter the room. The porter wants to enter, I tell him to go back to the lobby. Ni comes towards me, she is naked, she got a bit fatter since last year. Her pussy is shouting "hungry, I am hungry", it is smooth and shiny, I take off my genuine fake reeban. Nan shows me her brown hole, such a beauty, I look closer and kiss it, so tasty. Then Piaan arrives, well she has a little willy instead of a pussy. Diversity is great isn't it?

The session last one hour. The three girls cannot walk anymore, I have to call the porter to bring a trolley and kick them out. I go outside on the busy streets. It is chaotic. I manage to find a quiet bar, "the post office" and order a mango juice. It is 2 pm and I take the opportunity to go for a massage. I feel good and I am horny again. I usually separate sex and massage, but I will make an exception. My intuition was right! The lady has an electric foufou! Like Louis de Funes, I get electric shocks when I enter my tongue.

Then I stop at La Poste, order a mango juice. I take my phone and read my favorite blog and once again the advice of FormulaOne. I know the Soi Cowboy very well and head towards it. I go in the first bar, girls are not up to my taste, I show my heels and raise my arm "sub-standard". I enter the following bar "me love you long time", I like that, it sounds like Victor. Hugo or Baudelaire, such a beautiful verse. "me love you long time", long time? You won't be able to work for the rest of the season! I feel so horny that I pay her the LD immediately and fuck her on the till ST, VST! Other customers are a bit shocked, well, I don't prevent them from joining us. That was the aperitive, I then seat at the back of the bar. The NaughtyBhave has hired two new girls this year. I ask the monger, "they are very fresh, straight from Cambodia, with all their legs and arms, very rare on the market! Cambodia. I am afraid of finding a landmine in the pussy. I order another mango juice and notice I am short of cash. I decide to head towards the nana to find a cheap WG on the street. I find one, she is very old, her fifties. I like cougars. She tells me she can do anything I ask her for 5 bahts. She adds that her anus is still very tight, 2. 5 cm diameter maximum and shows it to me. I finger her on the street, good quality. I bring her to my bedroom and enlarge her anus to 4. 8 cm. She will have to retire. She leaves, crying, the end of her career at Bangkok. I take out my diary and adds "+1". Tomorrow I will reach 20, the target a friend fixed me to get a free pint at the Cock Inn. I switch off the light and text my wife "the sun is piercing clouds, I am having lunch with Thierry."Too funny.

Syzygies
03-19-17, 20:23
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Sie keeps sucking me off and the girl that shook her tits in front of me comes over and asks if she can have my sperm? I check with Sie who is concentrating on sucking me off and she agrees. Sham joins in and she has a very talented and soft lips. She definitely has more experience and tells Sie what to do like "mouth on each side of cock". So good. Since I had just cum, it was taking me a while to cum again but I was hard and truly enjoying every second of it. The other punter has taken off so it's just me and all the girls in the bar. We tried so many positions. At one point I had my middle fingers in Sie's and Sham's pussies while their lips were teasing my cock. In another, Sham asked if I wanted to "boom-boom" Sie while she licks my balls. Very tempting but I was really enjoying myself so didn't bother. So many positions, so many smiles. Lek walked in halfway through, she sees me, I shout out her name and she sees I am smiling and happy. Three girls? Not today. About 25 minutes or so of sucking me off, the mamasan says something and Sham tells me that they might stop in ten minutes. I am fine with this as they have been really good so far and continue to enjoy this amazing blowjob. In about 5 minutes, I stand up and start to jerk off while Sie licks my balls and Sham is ready with her open mouth right in front of my dick. Lek and another girl are standing next to the bar and start watching. Lek is gyrating and cheering me on. Beautiful.

Afterwards, I buy a Lady's Drink for both girls, we sit together, we chat. These girls were so much fun. They mentioned that if I took them to short time hotel, it would be a lot more relaxed and all I would have to do is lie there and they would do everything. They shared stories with me about punters coming in and doing some crazy things like having the girls line up and getting blowjobs as they went down the line. Star of Light really is an amazing Blowjob Bar. I love this place and I hope I come back to Thailand again.Thanks for very colourful report. Shows my fears of the new government causing it to be tame may not be justified. I would still like to fuck in the bar though rather than need a ST Hotel.

I would quite like to get a BJ from the pregnant one and feel her tits. Fucking maybe going to far in her case. I don't want to disturb the baby's rest.

The name Sham should be spelled just slightly different but I can't quite guess. Possibly Chaem short for Champagne. There is no "sh" sound in Thai.

WildHawk
03-19-17, 20:47
Its good to read that white western guys can have successes in Thermae as opposed to the girls having interest solely in Japanese and locals, for example.

Am wondering if you stay at the hotel above Thermae whether you can take freelancers to the room without problems / questions / payments etc. Any thoughts?I regret to not know a thing about the hotel, but it would be the rare hotel in BKK that would give you trouble, so long as you've booked a room for two (otherwise a possible joiner fee, typical.) But I'm chiming in, also, to applaud the farang's success in Thermae. Two weeks ago, after having the lights turned up on me at Cowboy (3 am) I strolled up the suk to see what was on offer. Thermae had closed by then, but there were a gaggle of leftovers / freelancers next to the hotel sign. I inquired as to whether one of the lookers did farang. Nope, she said, but she pointed to her friend (actually the one who most appealed) -- ear to ear smile on this beauty, named Mod -- and said that she'd be happy to go with me to my hotel, the Emporium Suites by Chatrium, next to the glitzy mall (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, though pricier (roughly $125 US per night on Expedia). Full GFE, she loved DATY. Night and morning session. She quickly assented to joining me for the breakfast buffet (included in the rate). Now, I must say that I am loath to deal with the "walk of shame," and Mod, naturally, was equipped with no apparel beyond the cutoff jeans hooking kit. But damn if that girl didn't stretch out her sweater to cover some of her assets, and looked dignified and not at all out place. (I may have overlooked some glances from the Westerners at breakfast, but there were no issues whatsoever with the staff, who treated her respectfully (as they should have). We return to the room (great view, great great great hotel -- and I am not a paid shill) and I've got an hour to spare before checkout time. I notice that I've only got about three thousand-baht notes to pay her the 2500 (ya know, at 3 am I had no energy to negotiate outside Thermae, sorry for possibly overpaying.) Rather than waste time schlepping to the front desk for change, I propose another bonking session instead, and she can keep the entire 3 K. "You still have power?" she asks. Me: "Power. Have. " Fun ensued. Checked out with no time to spare, though. Sorry for the lengthy rubbish, but, yes, there are high probabilities of Westerners succeeding. At least outside Thermae. * and my big regret was not making it inside Thermae, if even to get rebuffed. Next time.

Syzygies
03-19-17, 20:47
Then I stop at La Poste, order a mango juice. I take my phone and read my favorite blog and once again the advice of FormulaOne. I know the Soi Cowboy very well and head towards it. I go in the first bar, girls are not up to my taste, I show my heels and raise my arm "sub-standard". I enter the following bar "me love you long time", I like that, it sounds like Victor. Hugo or Baudelaire, such a beautiful verse. "me love you long time", long time? You won't be able to work for the rest of the season! I feel so horny that I pay her the LD immediately and fuck her on the till ST, VST! Other customers are a bit shocked, well, I don't prevent them from joining us. That was the aperitive, I then seat at the back of the bar. The NaughtyBhave has hired two new girls this year. I ask the monger, "they are very fresh, straight from Cambodia, with all their legs and arms, very rare on the market! Cambodia. I am afraid of finding a landmine in the pussy. I order another mango juice and notice I am short of cash. I decide to head towards the nana to find a cheap WG on the street. I find one, she is very old, her fifties. I like cougars. She tells me she can do anything I ask her for 5 bahts. She adds that her anus is still very tight, 2. 5 cm diameter maximum and shows it to me. I finger her on the street, good quality. I bring her to my bedroom and enlarge her anus to 4. 8 cm. She will have to retire. She leaves, crying, the end of her career at Bangkok. I take out my diary and adds "+1". Tomorrow I will reach 20, the target a friend fixed me to get a free pint at the Cock Inn. I switch off the light and text my wife "the sun is piercing clouds, I am having lunch with Thierry."Weird shit!

I know this flamboyant writing is entertaining for many. I did not find it funny myself, more like an LSD trip. Gives Kumbu a good run for his money though with much less total words. It is quite unlikely that a Cowboy bar (with its name redacted why?) has just hired two Cambodian girls. The recent police crackdowns have swept of girls too young or not Thai nationals. The bar would risk closure. So Cambodia sounds like a story to me, and I never thought about amputees in relation to Cambodia at all. Some other parts are a bit too imaginative too.

All posts are just stories to be believed or not, but can I suggest including just a few more facts to convince us that what you write actually might have happened, unless you don't intend for it to sound realistic. I remain open minded, on that subject. However many others have alluded to possible fantasy content, or embellishment.

Some of us look for real experiences with girls and places named, to see if a place might be worth a try.

The managers of the forum don't approve of the "diversity" you mention in the other post. It's a little bit Homophobic perhaps, however they want this to be a strictly hetero forum. Many of us or nearly all perhaps are not into cock at all. Big turn off for me. I don't even watch porn focussing on BJs. Pussy all the way!

Syzygies
03-19-17, 21:04
Met with a normally Soi 4 freelancer today. Tall Nim with dark pink or Mahogany hair. The ST hotel annoyed me as they had prices for 1 hour or for 2. I wanted to book a room for 90 minutes, and in the end I used exactly 90 minutes. I will have to survey which ones offer a good price for 90 mins.

The girl was funny. Claimed she had not been fucked for 2 weeks. Showed me her Bank book as well (I did not request it), to try to prove she was hard up for money. LOL She was also very ready to be fucked. !

Soapy fun together in the shower first. She got two pops from extended DATY. Then her BBBJ was quite good, although spent a little too long on the prelim licking. Nice fuck and she really likes dick. She got another pop in mish, did some cowgirl, and then was tiring, so I finished in prone with her tickling my balls while fucking her from behind and fingering her ahole a little. She seemed too spent to do a doggy.

She had requested a little more than normal freelancer price due to 90 minutes and due to being broke. LOL However she was worth it for me. I have found most Soi 4 freelancers not very good on first booking, but can be very good, once the regular relationship is formed. They can go from crappy kissing to nice DFK. This girl was just good enough to repeat the first time, but now is a very nice fuck for me regularly. Has a baby, so tits shrank a bit.

My main regular favorite girl returns to BKK tomorrow night, so I will have limited opportunities to try new girls for a while. Will try to get to Club 102, perhaps tomorrow.

Afterwards, I noticed several black girls hanging at mouth of Soi 7. A couple were quite doable, with pretty face and slim curvy body. Another day!

At 1:30am was surprised to see a cart bar had returned to Soi 23, but other cart bar areas formerly like Soi 21, Terminal 21 etc. where free of cart bars. Maybe the odd one is around.

Smoothy
03-19-17, 21:06
Since my visit last year Nana Plaza has really gone down hill. My visit there a few days ago was to Bangkok Bunnies (ground floor)I went to Bangkok Bunnies tonight and there were some stunners for sure. I was there a few weeks ago and there was no talent, but tonight it was awesome.

Syzygies
03-19-17, 21:13
I went to Bangkok Bunnies tonight and there were some stunners for sure. I was there a few weeks ago and there was no talent, but tonight it was awesome.Any awesome girls with real tits? Previously my disappointment was virtually all topless girls were siliconised. I agree the quality in a bar can change dramatically so always willing to give bars another try.

PinkPearl
03-19-17, 21:21
I went to Bangkok Bunnies tonight and there were some stunners for sure. I was there a few weeks ago and there was no talent, but tonight it was awesome.Hobbying on any given night IME is a crapshoot. If you're lucky you might get a stunner. If unlucky a complete WOT.

IME this applies to ladies of the street in Bangkok, Singapore and Canada. In Singapore, especially, as girls there may only be visiting on a one or two month entry visa.

There is a high turnover rate, especially in Singapore.

At Nana Hotel in Bangkok you get a lot of the same faces, some of them even for years, but there are regularly new ones too, & a changing lineup throughout the night.

In Canada, likewise, though there are also the occasional or part time females on the street looking for some extra cash for groceries etc.

CrapeDiem
03-19-17, 22:08
Massive drilling at the basement of the hotel wake me up. Builders have been working for years at the Nana hotel, not managing to reverse the effect of time. These loud drilling remind me I still have plenty holes to drill myself. For a second I feel a connection with these builders, doing the hard work under this intense heat. Well somebody has to do it. I get up, I feel sick, probably too much mango juice at the doll house. I hear some grumbling and see Nam naked on the stained carpet. I prefer not imagining the history of each stain. We could probably sample here enough DNA to start a new civilization. I get a shower, pipes are cracking, rattling and screaming. Speaking of pipes, Na releases a loud a fart as I step out of the bathroom. Thank god she s alive. One less thing to worry about. I put on my clothes and the orange short I bought for 20 bahts. I like looking ridiculous in this part of the world where norms and standards don't exist, or let's say, are very different. I leave 20 bahts for the house keepers and put a "take me out" note on Na. They usually complain about it, well.

I walk in the corridor, the massive drilling downstairs cover the muttered drilling in the bedrooms, such early moans and groans! I feel I live in a Fellini film. Time does not matter in Bangkok. I go to the breakfast room, it is pretty busy, full of bad boys and sexy chicks who managed to make good money through LT. The woman I saw yesterday at the swimming pool is there. She seems to live in the hotel, she looks like Brigitte Bardot in Jean Luc Godard's film La piscine. "And my breast, you like my breast? "oh yes I do" was I thinking filing up my plate with greasy sausages at the shelves. They still look very good in full light, the women, definitely not the sausages. The neon of the food shelves replace the purple neon of the bars. In which hotel in the world would you see so many women in mini skirt at breakfast in a faded hotel that looks like a Premier Inn hotel in the suburbs of Glasgow? The Nana is really something. One girl, sitting next to her customer, smiles at me, they mean business! We want love! Long time. They don't stop! Really sex Stakhanovist!

I finish my breakfast, it was of good quality. The Nana really takes care of its hosts. I look at my extra kilos. I need to do some sport, I need to fuck! I go on the street, it is 10 am, still pretty early. I pass in front of the old grey Volvos, always parked in front of the hotel testifying the Nana's past glory. Their bonnets are always raised, these Scandinavian boys suffer from the heat.

I am determined to cash back on my fixed costs, namely the hotel and the flight. I go to the first bar in front of the Nana, Spanky's. Hormonal levels have dropped, some guys are already drinking beers. I order a mango juice and get immediately sick. I should only drink alcohol. Two girls come towards me, 1500 bahts? The price is right, I don't haggle and cross the street with Pan and Pat. I had an amazing three-hour session, my penis hurts me, I can't do anything anymore. Pan and Pat are stuck in an amazing 69 position and they would not leave the bedroom. I have to call the porter once again to evict them. The trolley is broken, I decide to book another room. One room to sleep and one room for sex. This is luxury, the Nana lives up to its hype.

It is late afternoon already and I am hungry. I have not had lunch, or not a feeding lunch. Despite my stomach's pain, I decide to try some street food and order some [Non-English text deleted by Admin]. I sit on one of these tiny plastic chairs, I feel clumsy and feel I am going to break it. I eat in the same position as if I was doing a poo in nature. This thought makes me even more sick and I vomit the curry.

Dusk is falling. I see a tall woman staring at me. Given her height, large hands, feet, mmh, this looks like a trap. "[Non-English text deleted by Admin]" said my mentor Strauss Kahn. I stop at a pharmacy and buy some blue pills I need to be productive. Once back to the UK I will have one year of sex-starvation. I head back to the Soi Cowboy, I pass by the Cockatoo. Somehow the name does not inspire me, something weird about this place. I look at that tall girl with big hands and weird voice. She wears a minimalist bikini and I look at the shape of her mobile phone in her pussy. I have to admit those sexy clothes are not very handy. I wish I had her number to make it vibrate. I continue to the Baccara, a well-known bar. A girl comes to me, if this happened at home. Her name is Pingpong. I have two ping-pong balls in mind and run away immediately, not finishing my mango juice. The blue pills are having their effect and I have to act quickly. I get in the Tilac bar and meet Jane. I reply my name is Tarzan, she laughs, I could believe her. No wonder men feel like kings here, miles away from socialist feminist moralist vegetarian decadent western world. Where does truly lie the rot of decadence indeed? I should write a book one day. I pay her a lady drink and she lets me look at her under every angle. I finger her, like kicking tires of an used car, she laughs. You would not get that at the South Kensington clubs with Western girls. A couple, tourists who came to challenge their moral values, are shocked, starring at me. I invite to join me and they leave, shocked. Petites bourgeois. I go to a room with Jane for ST and we have great time, three times. By Jove! Bloody pills, I should not have taken the whole box at once.

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove text not in English. While I encourage contributions from all volunteers, the Forum is an English-only website. Please do not post reports in any language other than English. If you wish to post text in any language other than English, then please include a full English translation.Thanks!

Paolo99
03-19-17, 22:56
Well that was a very entertaining report, especially as post number 1. Unfortunately it is lacking any useful information and is written like we should know you already because you have been a forum member for years. Are you an existing member who has opened a 2nd account?

What would be useful to know would be how much was the ride from Pattaya to Bangkok? Who did you book the ladies with that were waiting in your hotel room in Bangkok? Were they freelancers or do they work for an agency? What were their rates? Other than he girls names from Skyfall in Pattaya, what else can you tell us about your experience in Pattaya? What were the good Soi 6 bars?Here is a clue that might answer your question. In French the words "krp" and "carpe" does sound identical. If you read the Pattaya Thread, you will see a few lengthy report from krpdieme, a supposedly new member and new comer in Thailand. He talked about the bar La Poste and his Mango Juices, and said that next reports would be in the Bangkok Thread. My guess is he didn't fuck any girl during that day in Bangkok.

By the way, how do you guys do to post lengthy reports? I've tried a few times but by the time I finish to type my post, the system says that I'm offline and it doesn't upload my post. Even when I write small posts, I'm often offline when I finish typing it but the system can upload it. Do you write your reports on another support and then copy and paste it on the forum?

ThreeLilBirds
03-20-17, 01:09
Perhaps it is time for a Thailand fantasy chat thread in order to keep the existing discussions from getting mucked up.
SL.Would have been fine if people didn't quote the entire post in their reply for everyone else to scroll through 3 times.

Syzygies
03-20-17, 05:29
By the way, how do you guys do to post lengthy reports? I've tried a few times but by the time I finish to type my post, the system says that I'm offline and it doesn't upload my post. Even when I write small posts, I'm often offline when I finish typing it but the system can upload it. Do you write your reports on another support and then copy and paste it on the forum?You must use cut and paste. You can type your whole report in a text file for example and then paste it into ISG forum report page. Alternatively, before you try to up load your report, and also from time to time, highlight the full text of your report, and copy to the scratch pad before attempting to upload.

When uploading, it may request me to sign on again. No big deal. If your post got lost, paste it in again from the scratch pad. I often completely replace my whole report by pasting in a new copy, to circumvent the automated software that changes what we type, e.g. It changes "D cups" to "the cups". In short, the automated corrector makes a mess, unfortunately.

Paolo99
03-20-17, 08:51
You must use cut and paste. You can type your whole report in a text file for example and then paste it into ISG forum report page. Alternatively, before you try to up load your report, and also from time to time, highlight the full text of your report, and copy to the scratch pad before attempting to upload...Thanks for the reply, I will try that if I have to post something lengthy.

Smoothy
03-20-17, 10:36
Any awesome girls with real tits? Previously my disappointment was virtually all topless girls were siliconised. I agree the quality in a bar can change dramatically so always willing to give bars another try.The girl I took was 100% natural. However, I have nothing against Silicone tits. I don't like the nose jobs and the chin jobs, but I don't mind the boob jobs.

Penguin69
03-20-17, 10:44
I'd suggest checking out the 100's of reviews on hotel booking sites, such as booking dot com.

They'll tell you just about anything you want to know about a hotel.

Alternately it's not that far to, say, for example, Nana Hotel, from Thermae. Maybe a 15 minute brisk walk, or faster by vehicle. Or other nearby hotels well known to take FLs without problems, questions or fees.Yes, have done (booking com). But the solo reports I've read seem not to address this explicitly.

Syzygies
03-20-17, 12:24
The girl I took was 100% natural. However, I have nothing against Silicone tits. I don't like the nose jobs and the chin jobs, but I don't mind the boob jobs.So 99 silicon jobs, and one real tits? LOL I was hoping for a slightly better answer but I suppose will have to go for a peek.

I have had GFs in the past with implants, even quite good jobs, but they still bore me badly. If they have distinct convex curvature on top, then that is an easy rule out for me. It just looks freaky to my eye, plus I love the softness of real ones. I even prefer very flat chested girls over coconuts or sag bags. I can forgive a just little sag and very subtle silicones. However we pay good money. Might as well get what turns us on. Nice soft tits brushing against my balls concurrent with cock being sucked in BBBJ is one of my favorite things. Obviously can't happen if girl has no tits.

I know many of us are capable of putting on blinkers and ignore all the so so to ugly girls and really just see a few nice ones if there are any. Also I know Smoothy has a bit different taste to me. My previous trip to BKK bunnies was quite a lot of months ago, after Breadman praised it, and I was very disappointed in the line up due to almost all topless girls having sillies or sag bags, or being just very plain Janes. I subsequently greatly preferred Twisters and Billboard with a lot more pretty girls (looking like real humans). However I recognise big changes can occur, I remember visits to Biillboard when it was quite dead not that very long time a go.

Member #4591
03-20-17, 12:27
Here is a clue that might answer your question. In French the words "krp" and "carpe" does sound identical. If you read the Pattaya Thread, you will see a few lengthy report from krpdieme, a supposedly new member and new comer in Thailand. He talked about the bar La Poste and his Mango Juices, and said that next reports would be in the Bangkok Thread. My guess is he didn't fuck any girl during that day in Bangkok.

By the way, how do you guys do to post lengthy reports? I've tried a few times but by the time I finish to type my post, the system says that I'm offline and it doesn't upload my post. Even when I write small posts, I'm often offline when I finish typing it but the system can upload it. Do you write your reports on another support and then copy and paste it on the forum?That's interesting, thanks for coming out but that was his first post.

Noein09
03-20-17, 13:19
Hi guys,

Living in BKK; read a lot from here; wanted to go out today (yeah a Monday I know.). Anyone keen into tagging along to show me the good places and things to avoid? Sorry if it's not the right place to post.

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Smoothy
03-20-17, 14:37
I recognise big changes can occur, I remember visits to Biillboard when it was quite dead not that very long time a go.Billboard was pretty weak last night. If you go to Bunnies, make sure to check out the area in the back near the bath tub and behind it as well as the main area.

HorseTrader
03-20-17, 15:29
By the way, how do you guys do to post lengthy reports? I've tried a few times but by the time I finish to type my post, the system says that I'm offline and it doesn't upload my post.I used to have a similar problem. Then I started previewing my report from time to time and the problem disappeared.

As has been mentioned, I recommend that seniors review and edit posts immediately after uploading. That way you can fix all the auto correct blunders.

Syzygies
03-20-17, 15:43
I used to have a similar problem. Then I started previewing my report from time to time and the problem disappeared.

As has been mentioned, I recommend that seniors review and edit posts immediately after uploading. That way you can fix all the auto correct blunders.Yes and easiest way to correct multiple "auto correction" blunders is to re-paste in the entire original text, keeping all the good original blunders. LOL.

I find the auto corrector, does not correct my basic typos anyway. It's totally stupid. I have to fix my own typos (caused by the mobile phone) and the Auto Corrector blunders as well. Too much hassle.

PinkPearl
03-20-17, 19:48
I'd suggest checking out the 100's of reviews on hotel booking sites, such as booking dot com.

They'll tell you just about anything you want to know about a hotel.

Alternately it's not that far to, say, for example, Nana Hotel, from Thermae. Maybe a 15 minute brisk walk, or faster by vehicle. Or other nearby hotels well known to take FLs without problems, questions or fees.

Yes, have done (booking com). But the solo reports I've read seem not to address this explicitly.Sorry to hear that didn't answer your question.

Perhaps contacting the hotel directly would help.

Alternately I'd suggest a search of the forum or the internet. For example using the words Thermae, freelancer and the name of the hotel.

BTW, what is the name of the hotel?

Breadman
03-20-17, 21:06
I like to have fun in the gogo's, if the girl is going to give me constant lap dances and give me access to pretty much everything I have no trouble buying her ladydrinks and tipping her on top of that. I can't fuck them all and in the down time I don't want to sit there being bored if I'm doing a solo gogo bar tour. You exchange LINE info and if something comes about then I'm ready to see what might happen. Went into this gogo in Nana and this cute little chick looked so good dancing topless, every time I came in after a round of sex she'd be there so I'd buy her a drink. Got to the point where she'd just come over, wouldn't even ask for a drink but would just grind away. So I'm back at my hotel and she send me a chat, wants to come over at 4 am. Soon there's a knock on my door and in she walks. Get her undressed and she slides into bed next to me. I'm playing with her tits, fingering her, even went down and ate her out for some time. I then get her hands on my dick and she starts giving me a HJ, few minutes of this I reach over for the condom and she must have realized my size and her tiny pussy just wouldn't work out. She gets up and starts saying 'me student, me student' and starts dressing. Gets on her shoes, have her out the door and its an inch from shutting when she pushes back and asks for taxi money. Gave her 100 baht. You'd think she'd avoid me next time I came in the gogo but she still came running over.

Danibbler
03-21-17, 05:01
I guess it all depends how the girls are dressed and if you look frazzled by the walk of shame. Hotel staff the world over will not stop you if you are self confident and the girl (s) on your side don't look too much out of place and know how to behave in a hotel.This.

I took Pinky back to the (now-Pullman) hotel and the staff never even asked for ID. They just smiled and we were on our way.

Smoothy
03-21-17, 06:33
This.

I took Pinky back to the (now-Pullman) hotel and the staff never even asked for ID. They just smiled and we were on our way.I prefer to have them take their ID and call my room as the girl picks her ID card up to leave. I've never had it happen to me, but I have heard stories of guys getting ripped off or even drugged. The girl having to provide her ID harms me in no way whatsoever. I walk them to the desk and have them give their ID if the hotel doesn't ask for it. And yes, the Pullman (previously Millennium) almost never asks for the girl's ID cards. However, if I request they call my room before the girl is allowed to go, they invariably do that.

Syzygies
03-21-17, 09:45
I prefer to have them take their ID and call my room as the girl picks her ID card up to leave. I've never had it happen to me, but I have heard stories of guys getting ripped off or even drugged. The girl having to provide her ID harms me in no way whatsoever. I walk them to the desk and have them give their ID if the hotel doesn't ask for it. And yes, the Pullman (previously Millennium) almost never asks for the girl's ID cards. However, if I request they call my room before the girl is allowed to go, they invariably do that.I advise guys to get girls from reliable sources for most part. I also only use ST Hotel for unknown girls, without having a lot of valuables with me, e. G. Phone and wallet only. It's better if know where the girl works. In 25 years never had a problem but still better to be careful. Thai hookers in general may spin stories, but are generally surprisingly trustworthy in my experience. Asking for extra tip sometimes happens, and some Nana girls in particular try to rip you off for time, intending to get to their next customer coming to meet them just a few minutes away or already in the bar waiting. Then there are always chance of picking the dick-scared stiff-legged starfish types. The later is always my number one concern, when choosing a lady, so try to find out how much she likes dick. LOL Probably the reason I gradually moved away from Soapies.

Many years ago accidentally BFed a girl and a LB from a Nana gogo bar for threesome, but realised my mistake on way back to Hotel. LB was smaller and more delicate than the real girl but slightly sharp face LOL. So cancelled promptly before anything developed further. Never saw the dick on LB, but of course once you realise, you become quite sure. It made me realise anyone can make a mistake and choose unwisely in a rush, in one way or another. I went straight back to same bar (Hollywood or Woodstock In the back right corner ground floor I think) and chose instead a girl with really big naturals (to be sure to be sure LOL). I probably did not expect regular gogo bars to have LBs, but learned my lesson. These days so many Nana bars have LBs.

Arn Poddict
03-21-17, 18:28
Did you see any big boob girls?..Check out Twins bar at Soi 23. There is one girl with really big natural "twins" that swing nicely when she plays billiards. A bit chubby girl though but not fat.

Solo Traveler
03-22-17, 13:59
Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.

Sounds ridiculous, because in my concept, LT means whole night, which should be at least 8 hours, perhaps?

Too ridiculous, so I did not take any girl from Gogobars. Instead, I stick with soapy bath massage parlors my whole last trip.

So, may I ask guys who constantly reported back that they took girls LT for whole night long, where and how you do that?

The LT=4 hours bullshit really made me upset and it was also one reason why I don't visit there again recent.

Penguin69
03-22-17, 17:46
Sorry to hear that didn't answer your question.

Perhaps contacting the hotel directly would help.

Alternately I'd suggest a search of the forum or the internet. For example using the words Thermae, freelancer and the name of the hotel.

BTW, what is the name of the hotel?Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel.

Traveler1234
03-22-17, 21:10
Thanks for very colourful report. Shows my fears of the new government causing it to be tame may not be justified. I would still like to fuck in the bar though rather than need a ST Hotel.
.Couple of years ago fucked Rabbit in the bar one weekend afternoon LOL.

HorseTrader
03-22-17, 22:16
Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.
Having never done LT, I'm no expert, but those times seem short to me. I've only had 5 ST experiences, those lasted between 1. 5 and 3 hours in my room. The 3 hour session included 2 pops, which is something I could never manage in a shorter session. One of the shorter ST experiences had a 2nd pop offered, but I couldn't perform. While still in the bar, the 3-hour session girl explained that LT would be all night long (whatever that is).

I think the time you get might be dependent on your personal chemistry and if she expected to earn more money that evening.

These experiences were in January and February 2017.

Johnthescot
03-22-17, 22:54
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".


"Haha made me laugh out loud. Even funnier that some have taken it seriously and bitten!! .

JohntheScot.

Johnthescot
03-22-17, 23:01
I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".


"Haha made me laugh out loud. Even funnier that some have taken it seriously and bitten!! .

JohntheScot.

Crocodilexp
03-23-17, 03:24
Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.ST is indeed typically 1 pop, though it rarely takes the entire hour. It is not uncommon for an ST to be 2 pops and take up to 2 hours, but that has to be agreed in advance.

LT is, and has always been, an overnight stay. Unless you take the girl after 3 am, that's a fair bit longer than 4 h. As for the pops, the standard was always 2 pops in the evening and 1 pop in the morning, but unlimited pops are implied if you can manage them. In case of an LT, anything less than an overnight stay and 3 pops is a runner or flake. In that case, anyone who pays the full agreed-upon LT price is a sucker and doing a disservice to all future mongers. Of course, if you agree on something different in advance, or YOU choose to do less, you should still pay the full fare.

The 4-hour 2-pop arrangement is not standard, but I'd call it a leisurely unrushed ST.

What the girl (one or ten) tells you doesn't matter. She gets to name her price and choose which services (if any) to provide, and is always free to leave. However, she does not get to define what the words mean, and what sort of service is generally expected.

Syzygies
03-23-17, 04:33
ST is indeed typically 1 pop, though it rarely takes the entire hour. It is not uncommon for an ST to be 2 pops and take up to 2 hours, but that has to be agreed in advance.
How would you know that ST rarely takes a full hour? I always use at least 1 hour, unless girl was a disaster. What is the point to rush?

I sometimes book ST rooms for 90 minutes or 2 hours.

In an MP I always use well over an hour unless the session is no good. Never book just 60 minutes. It is rare I get two pops. I just dont cum that easy.

Last Sunday took a freelancer. We took 90 mins exactly. She got 3 pops, me only 1. She asked for an extra tip for the extra time. LOL However I pay her well already, slightly above typical freelancer quickie rates. Also I was annoyed that the ST Hotel did not have a special 90 min rate, what I requested, and I had to take either 1 hour or 2 hours. Some ST Hotels I have gotten away with going over 1 hour on a non busy night, even paying the standard. I often receive the phone call saying my time is up.

Am I really so rare, and everyone else is happy with a quickie? I doubt it. I am sure there must be others who are taking it slowly.

Syzygies
03-23-17, 05:15
Having never done LT, I'm no expert, but those times seem short to me. I've only had 5 ST experiences, those lasted between 1. 5 and 3 hours in my room. The 3 hour session included 2 pops, which is something I could never manage in a shorter session. One of the shorter ST experiences had a 2nd pop offered, but I couldn't perform. While still in the bar, the 3-hour session girl explained that LT would be all night long (whatever that is).

I think the time you get might be dependent on your personal chemistry and if she expected to earn more money that evening.

These experiences were in January and February 2017.I have rarely had a LT as short as 4 Hours. I normally take girl before midnight sometimes 1 am, and expect them to stay till 7 am or 8 am and sometimes to breakfast, or maybe 6 am if pre-agreed. 4 hours could happen I suppose if took a girl at 3 am til 7 am. If girl claims she really has to go very early then I will set the alarm so can get in a morning pop.

However LT has never been as low as 4 hours. Mind you I have not been taking any long times for last 2 or 3 years except for my retired regular girl and these are more like 9 hours. We both like sex in the morning. In past was hard to find girls that really preferred sex in the morning. She is even quite okay With just slipping it in while she is asleep (with lube), and her waking to being fucked. Just thinking of this is giving me a hard on right now, even we just had a session finishing an hour or so back.

I have to wonder if guys are starting to experience very short LTs due to general belief that LT costs only 500 to 1K more than ST, which always seemed ridiculous to me. I always believed a fair price for making a girl try to sleep away from her home and possibly not her normal sleep hours plus providing multiple sex sessions should be only just under double the ST price or fully double the ST price for more demanding customers. Otherwise many girls are just saying they don't do LTs. Of course they might if the price is right. There are hot girls who can get 2 or 3 STs per night, so why take LTs? No point.

EihTooms
03-23-17, 07:37
How would you know that ST rarely takes a full hour? I always use at least 1 hour, unless girl was a disaster. What is the point to rush?
I think the most easily available but admittedly totally unscientific method for determining that ST rarely takes a full hour is to plant yourself in one of the outdoor bars across from Nana parking lot on Soi 4 during the mid-evening hours, perhaps for dinner and a few drinks, and keep a watch on how soon the FL girls who are taken typically return to their station. LOL. I can't think of many times, maybe none, where I did this and saw a girl go missing for as long as 80 minutes, which would come fairly close to the 5-10 minute walk to and from a ST room, maybe a stop off to chat with another friend along the way, or a make-up touch up en route, leaving a full hour of ST activities in the room. I would say seeing girls return to their station no longer than 45 minutes after walking off with a man who spent almost half that long browsing and chatting them up for what and how much is more common than longer away times. And 45 minutes might be among the longer times noted.

But this is, of course, a street girl FL with whom a man has typically invested less time and money in the lead up. And the primary concern seems by what I hear to be more about getting the cheapest rate rather than the best service. So maybe there is less effort to make it last longer. When I take a go-go bar girl I have felt up in a bar for a while and bought Lady Drinks for, I will definitely take my time in the room, my apartment, not a ST hotel room next to the bar, and that can easily take as long as an hour just in the room. Many times it will go on for 2-3 hours. I am definitely a one pop guy these days though.

Member #4591
03-23-17, 09:58
Recently I was doing some work in the Lakrabang area. After work, I felt that unforgettable itch for some action but wanted it to be in this area. I decided I would hail a taxi and try my luck with a referral from the driver. I asked him in Thai to take me to a massage place with beautiful girls. I referenced the ones on Ratchada as an example. About 30 minutes later we arrived at a legit massage shop in some upscale plaza. I then started to describe what I wanted again. Talking about sideline girls and boom boom. Apparently nothing in Lakarabang but close by in Minburi there is plenty.

Next, he took me to a place called, as he pronounced it Wee wa. I'm sure this is the wrong spelling. Anyways as we drove down this back street, there was a row of bars hidden behind a long concrete fence. Inside it was like a long strip mall of small bars or massage places. On the outside, as we drove down the side street, we ended up at a massage place at the back, similar to the Alaina, assuage set up Ratchada. Price was 2,800 for my girl but I'm sure it was padded 500 for me being a farang. Anyways my point of all this is, sometimes it's fun to just get in a taxi and ask the driver to recommend places. Don't worry about his 500 commission or the cost of the metre or you will ruin the fun. If you are a tourist, this won't be for you. But for members who live here everyday or frequent quite often like Syggies, this could prove to me a worthwhile experience. I will go back again for sure and post specific reviews in the BKK reports or massage threads when I note more specific information I can report.

My question is, does anyone know or has anyone ever been to Wee waw in Min Buri before? I want to go back and make note and report some good information for the rest of the members but I want to make sure I ask the taxi to go to the right place. I'm completely board of the farang scene and Stephan Kwai.

I also recently heard of another area at Vihavadi Soi 16/21. I will check this place out next week and report about it.

Syzygies
03-23-17, 12:24
My question is, does anyone know or has anyone ever been to Wee waw in Min Buri before? I want to go back and make note and report some good information for the rest of the members but I want to make sure I ask the taxi to go to the right place. I'm completely board of the farang scene and Stephan Kwai.

I also recently heard of another area at Vihavadi Soi 16/21. I will check this place out next week and report about it.Viva Palace (sounds like Wee Wah):

http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Viva%20Palace/modelplace-map.php?id=036

Heard of it years ago but never visited. I had a feeling there maybe Viva 1 and Viva 2 in two locations, but that may be wrong.

I am currently staying in Sathorn district, so Soapy IDA visible from Sirat expressway is probably worth a second visit for me.

https://goo.gl/maps/qKKbRPgWs152
https://goo.gl/maps/hPi9fePCP4r

It seemed classy on first visit and girls and prices were good at the time. I went with buddy Traveler1234 before for a look (and session).

Syzygies
03-23-17, 13:06
It is well known I like slim or skinny girls. I used to see a crazy loud girl at Suzi Wong who was small and slim with a hot ass. She had every vice in the book, drinking, smoking, sex, gambling, and drug Ice. She later got pregnant to a Thai boy, had a baby, and decided to give up some of her vices including Ice (not in that order). In fact use of Ice was banded in the Suzi Wong bar, affecting quite a few girls.

Now this girl and some others are not using Ice as a lazy weight control mechanism, and getting pudgy. The girl is no longer hot for me.

Some bars are full of slim girls, like Crazy House. Heavy Ice use could be suspected, although I have no information. I know why, but apparently Ice use is a far easier way to control weight than going on a healthy food (low carbs high fibre diet).

I do hear reports of certain MPs having significant percentages of girls using Ice as well, and management don't stop it. Young silly girls don't worry about becoming addicts.

Which is better? Fat girls or Ice abusers? Neither I guess.

Years ago, the problem drug was "Yaa Baa". I don't know if this one is also still rife. I do know girls at gogos dose up on herbal alcoholic drink "Yaa Dong" to lose inhibitions before dancing naked. Girls who drink too many Tequilas can gain weight from the alcohol and sugar in their drinks. Lady coke drinks and Tequilas maybe watered down to reduce weight gain and drunkenness.

Member #4591
03-23-17, 15:51
Viva Palace (sounds like Wee Wah):

http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Viva%20Palace/modelplace-map.php?id=036

Heard of it years ago but never visited. I had a feeling there maybe Viva 1 and Viva 2 in two locations, but that may be wrong.

I am currently staying in Sathorn district, so Soapy IDA visible from Sirat expressway is probably worth a second visit for me.

https://goo.gl/maps/qKKbRPgWs152
https://goo.gl/maps/hPi9fePCP4r

It seemed classy on first visit and girls and prices were good at the time. I went with buddy Traveler1234 before for a look (and session).That is a dam good guess. Wee wah seems to be the Thai word for Viva so that was Spot on. Genius you are.

XXL
03-23-17, 17:46
Which is better? Fat girls or Ice abusers? Neither I guess.
Same things happened in Jakarta years ago ("shabu-shabu"). There was a widespead crackdown on drugs and girls started getting fat. For mongers who are into slim girls, the more girls take such drugs the better since the drug will keep them slim AND remove inhibitions (barebacking etc.), were it not for the danger of law enforcement. Ice, meth, crystal, speed, same chemical (methamphetamine). What was Ya-ba? Probably meth as well.

Dg8787
03-23-17, 18:28
Same things happened in Jakarta years ago ("shabu-shabu"). There was a widespead crackdown on drugs and girls started getting fat. For mongers who are into slim girls, the more girls take such drugs the better since the drug will keep them slim AND remove inhibitions (barebacking etc.), were it not for the danger of law enforcement. Ice, meth, crystal, speed, same chemical (methamphetamine). What was Ya-ba? Probably meth as well.I am into slim girls but would never promote their drug use for my benefit or anyone else's.

Smoothy
03-24-17, 00:16
She later got pregnant to a Thai boy, had a baby, and decided to give up some of her vices including Ice (not in that order).

Now this girl and some others are not using Ice as a lazy weight control mechanism, and getting pudgy. The girl is no longer hot for me.I personally have no problem with a "thick" girl. I like them to have some meat on their bones as long as their body is young and firm. Firm is the key. The killer for me would be that she had a kid, not that she gained weight. Skinny or thick, if the girl's body is not firm or if she has stretch marks, it's a turn off. I find that girls on drugs tend to have softer bodies than girls not on drugs as well. Turn off.

Syzygies
03-24-17, 05:26
I personally have no problem with a "thick" girl. I like them to have some meat on their bones as long as their body is young and firm. Firm is the key. The killer for me would be that she had a kid, not that she gained weight. Skinny or thick, if the girl's body is not firm or if she has stretch marks, it's a turn off. I find that girls on drugs tend to have softer bodies than girls not on drugs as well. Turn off.Depends on the drugs. Ganjaa makes bodies go all saggy. Ice probably does not. Girl had very tight body when was an Ice user. Super ass. Unfortunately after her baby, ass was not the same, and the pussy was not the same. Inner lips seemed to be overly taunt. Not feeling good for DATY. She became more difficult to fuck. Perhaps doctor sewed her up too small.

Syzygies
03-24-17, 05:45
That is a dam good guess. Wee wah seems to be the Thai word for Viva so that was Spot on. Genius you are.Not genius and hardly guesswork. It's from knowing Thai Language. Letter V does not exist in Thai. They always use W sound never V sound. The Thai script name for VIVA is pronounced Wee-Waa. So it is pretty straight forward and I was aware of this Soapy "Wee-Waa" beforehand.

วีว่า พาเลซ WeeWaa (Viva) Phaaless (Palace)

Similarly Sukhumvit road is really Sukhumwit road, and Vibhavadi Rangsit is really Wiphawadee Rangsit. I have a Weesaa not a Visa. Why the Thais have chosen to use use letter V when spelling things in English, when W was the proper sound, is a big mystery. Strangely a Thai J sound is often spelled as Ch in English (and visa versa) too. Hence the Chao Praya river should be Jao Phrayaa, and River Kwai is really the River Kwae (sounds like Kwair). Ha ha! Strange spellings to confuse us.

Strange pronunciations of Pattaya grate on my ears a bit. LOL It should be like Put-ta-yar (with Put as in "put" the golf ball). So many guys like to correct me and say it is Pat-thai-ya (complete BS). "Patts" also sounds just a little silly to me. Correct pronunciation of Phuket, Koh Samui, and Koh Phang Ngan are just too hard for 99% of westerners, so anything will be acceptable. Why Thais had to come up with so many difficult names? LOL My 2nd trip to Thailand I asked taxi to go to Indra Regent Hotel (I had started to learn Thai already but was weak). I ended up at Regent Hotel, a different place altogether. I did not know pronunciation as "In-Traa" (no Regent at all) was critical to getting to the right place. Unfortunately learning to pronounce Thai generally takes a few months. That is the only hard part of the Thai language really.

Syzygies
03-24-17, 06:56
Mongering in Bangkok is so easy in the modern day in some ways. Girls often speak some English. The internet provides so much information, especially ISG (where most forums are crappy). Google Maps helps locate things (assuming pins are placed correctly. Not always).

Thai addresses are making it very hard to work out the location of something. In the old days, like 25 to 35 years ago, there was no Google Maps, and so finding an address could sometimes be very tricky. You would have to get near, then ask people on the street or in a shop if they had any clue where something was. That was if they could speak English. LOL Or show them address written down, and hope they had some clue where it could be. There was no ISG and no internet (to my knowledge).

Sometimes you just stumbled upon some mongering establishment or read something in a Travel book. I remember vaguely staying at the Ambassador Hotel 34 years ago, going for a run at night without my wife and stumbling on a Soapy MP in, Suk Soi 2 most likely (not Annies). Went inside, not knowing much and saw the tiered seating of girls behind the fishbowl. Papasan could speak English. I had low money with me and no ATM or credit cards (left behind in hotel) as was going for a sporty run. LOL. Soon was surprised to have a naked girl in the bath with me. Communication not possible. No common language. LOL Did not cost that much. Forget the price now. I was scared of catching STD (had no condoms) and probably the girl did not have any either.

In a subsequent trip had no wife, but had an experienced buddy to introduce me to mongering locations like Soi Cowboy, Phat Phong, Thermae, Grace Coffee shop, Darling, etc. Nana Plaza was as yet unknown. Did not really know about or use Oilies greatly. Many Thai style Massage shops though. Without guide books or a buddy, I probably would not have known very much at all.

Internet and Google Maps with Smart Phones now makes everything so easy.

Smoothy
03-24-17, 07:55
Depends on the drugs. Ganjaa makes bodies go all saggy. Ice probably does not. Girl had very tight body when was an Ice user. Super ass. Unfortunately after her baby, ass was not the same, and the pussy was not the same. Inner lips seemed to be overly taunt. Not feeling good for DATY. She became more difficult to fuck. Perhaps doctor sewed her up too small.I'm not so sure about only gangja making them saggy. I will use the example where I was closed involved. There was a little hard body in Jakarta I liked. I took her home over 100 times, but then she got hooked on shabu shabu and lost a ton of weight (almost a skeleton) and her body went soft. It was a total turn off so I lost interest in her. She then went to work in Japan for a few years. When she returned to Jakarta, she had gained weight back to normal. And while her body wasn't as firm as before, her body was relatively firm again. She was always a stunner when she wasn't hooked on drugs. However, within a month of her returning to Jakarta, some guy took her off the market and I haven't seen her in years now.

As far as the doctor sewing your girl up too small, that sounds kind of hot.

Syzygies
03-24-17, 17:14
Looked in Crazy House quite early tonight (since I was nearby). Nothing that special really. Numbers 109,110, 112 were passable looking with 112 (maybe called Taa) the best to my eye. Not at all interested in raunchy "Geronimo" whose face looks like a native American Warrior in war paint, which turns me off, since the face is not feminine looking to me. I don't know her name, but has mega tats and piercings, implants and a pussy. No need to stay long. I probably missed the better girls that arrive around 9 PM or so.

Checked out Toy Bar again. My suspicions were confirmed that it is no where near as "Thaleung" or wayward a bar as it was some 15 to 20 years ago. Only one or two girls with passable looks. A bit of mutual groping going on but girls were not at all naked or even topless. No BJs in the bar. I recall getting a BJ in the public bar many years ago and had exposed a hot girl's tits and pulled down her knickers. So relatively tame at the moment. Not sure what attracts the customers, since in Crazy House the girls are better looking and many are naked. Perhaps the groping is more full on under the girl's costume. Some girls were prepared to kiss customers in the bar. Based on another guy's report, SOL sounds much more risqu in the modern day. I can try that another day, and check if Kangaroo bar is at all wayward without resorting to the dark back room.

Smoothy
03-24-17, 18:15
Not at all interested in raunchy "Geronimo" whose face looks like a native American Warrior in war paint, which turns me off, since the face is not feminine looking to me. I don't know her name, but has mega tats and piercings, implants and a pussy.Hottest girl in Bangkok. Her name is Ice. You should talk with her, she is quite charming.

I tried number 9 there the other night. She is probably to your liking. Young girl, skinny and everything natural. Cannot speak English.

XXL
03-24-17, 18:17
I am into slim girls but would never promote their drug use for my benefit or anyone else's.You are right, it should be their decision, not yours or mine (nor the State's). Or did you mean something else?

Note that relatively unhindered drug use may be one of the attractants for girls going into prostitution in the first place. And it may be what keeps many girls going.

I'm sure for a good-looking girl, showing flesh while high on stims is not such a horrible experience. Ask Jenna Jameson.

Dg8787
03-24-17, 18:59
You are right, it should be their decision, not yours or mine (nor the State's). Or did you mean something else?

Note that relatively unhindered drug use may be one of the attractants for girls going into prostitution in the first place. And it may be what keeps many girls going.

I'm sure for a good-looking girl, showing flesh while high on stims is not such a horrible experience. Ask Jenna Jameson.I would not encourage or want girls to do drugs just so I could bang a slim body.

I seriously doubt girls ever get into this business for the purpose of drugs. They get in the business to feed their family and then to some how endure and to keep going in the business they turn to drugs.

Good looking girls high on stims is not a horrible experience? Good God! Why do you think they are on stims to bang you or me?

These stims are meth with different names like Shabu. Ever seen what the addiction does to people?

Solo Traveler
03-25-17, 00:03
Taking a working woman using drugs is too much of a danger and hassle, in my opinion.

If I know a woman is a drug user, if I ever know it, I will avoid her at all cost to stay away from troubles.

Moreover, in a broader sense, alcohol and cigarettes are drugs as well.

This is why I never intake alcohol or smoke, either in real life or in P4P venues.

I always wonder why some people can't just enjoy pure sex, without usage of alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, etc.

I also prefer working women who have less exposure to alcohol or cigarettes, which means they are more likely to be healthier and less likely to be a further drug user.

Robert Long
03-25-17, 07:38
Taking a working woman using drugs is too much of a danger and hassle, in my opinion.

If I know a woman is a drug user, if I ever know it, I will avoid her at all cost to stay away from troubles.

Moreover, in a broader sense, alcohol and cigarettes are drugs as well.

This is why I never intake alcohol or smoke, either in real life or in P4P venues.

I always wonder why some people can't just enjoy pure sex, without usage of alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, etc.

I also prefer working women who have less exposure to alcohol or cigarettes, which means they are more likely to be healthier and less likely to be a further drug user.If they are into drugs then they are app to rip you off if given a chance. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes on a woman's breath. And there is nothing worst than a drunk woman. Well maybe a drunk LB.

I like the clean athletic type with some tone to their bodies. Spinners are too thin and weak. I will take attitude over beauty any day. Beauty is only skin deep but attitude is character.

RL.

Khuraa
03-25-17, 08:53
Hi,

First time in Bangkok and leaving tomorrow.

Would appreciate if someone could help me in finding Russian / Japanese / middle eastern women or a good place to try a good threesome.

Thanks in advance.

XXL
03-25-17, 09:22
Taking a working woman using drugs is too much of a danger and hassle, in my opinion.

If I know a woman is a drug user, if I ever know it, I will avoid her at all cost to stay away from troubles.Most of the time you wouldn't know nor be able to tell.


I seriously doubt girls ever get into this business for the purpose of drugs. They get in the business to feed their family and then to some how endure and to keep going in the business they turn to drugs.
To attract girls into prostitution you need a carrot and a stick. Poverty is only the stick.

Females are naturally pregnancy-driven and marriage oriented, not wild and promiscuous. Think about it the next time you land a girl "who is really into it", a "real nympho", a genuine "3-hole fucklet" etc. Do you think she's behaving that way because she's been waiting for you all her life?

Mongers who want a constant supply of wild and promiscuous girls while adopting a strong anti-drug stance are like people who are against killing animals while eating steak.

Scary but worth bearing in mind: a smoothly-running don't ask don't tell drug culture may be a monger's best friend.

Smoothy
03-25-17, 14:53
If they are into drugs then they are app to rip you off if given a chance. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes on a woman's breath. And there is nothing worst than a drunk woman. Well maybe a drunk LB.

I like the clean athletic type with some tone to their bodies. Spinners are too thin and weak. I will take attitude over beauty any day. Beauty is only skin deep but attitude is character.

RL.Sounds like we are interested in the same type of chick. Although, I do like a girl to be a bit tipsy on alcohol (not drunk) before I take her home. And myself as well.

Syzygies
03-25-17, 16:20
If they are into drugs then they are app to rip you off if given a chance. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes on a woman's breath. And there is nothing worst than a drunk woman.
I did not find anything greatly wrong with bargirls using Ice, other than they may have been loudly having a good time (hard to say if noisy fun is due to drugs or alcohol). I don't do alcohol much myself. My dick is already relatively insensitive without alcoholic impairment to make Cumming even more difficult. I can get away with a very small number of drinks sometimes.

Overly drunk is bad. Girl will sleep or throw up, etc. , or maybe become more crazy, aggressive or annoying.

A bargirl I know at CH has just returned with significant weight loss. I have to be suspicious about how it was achieved. However no evidence yet, so will look see for a bit, if anything seems out of ordinary. She was always an active goer on the bed. Likes a good strong fuck.

Something I did learn about Ice Addicts, is that if they don't get it, they can have no energy and spend a lot of time sleeping. Don't know if cravings make them get into thieving.

Allover
03-25-17, 18:19
Viva Palace (sounds like Wee Wah):

http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Viva%20Palace/modelplace-map.php?id=036

Heard of it years ago but never visited. I had a feeling there maybe Viva 1 and Viva 2 in two locations, but that may be wrong.

I am currently staying in Sathorn district, so Soapy IDA visible from Sirat expressway is probably worth a second visit for me.

https://goo.gl/maps/qKKbRPgWs152
https://goo.gl/maps/hPi9fePCP4r

It seemed classy on first visit and girls and prices were good at the time. I went with buddy Traveler1234 before for a look (and session).I don't believe I've heard of this place but it looks good. I initially suspected it might be a place for Thais only but the website is in English. Thanks for the info.

HorseTrader
03-25-17, 18:33
I did not find anything greatly wrong with bargirls using Ice, other than they may have been loudly having a good time (hard to say if noisy fun is due to drugs or alcohol).In January I had a great ST session with a bar girl. The next night I brought her back to my hotel for round 2. Things were different starting with the 5 minute walk from the bar to my hotel, she couldn't walk straight and almost fell a couple of times. In the room she was awkward and acted strange. Knocked over a lamp while trying to get a bottle of water from the night stand. Too much energy. Tried to hold water in her mouth but ended up drooling most of it on the bed. Couldn't apply the condom like she did the night before. Thrashed about during sex whereas the night before she was an excellent partner.

I don't know if this was ice or something different. But whatever it was, I didn't appreciate the effects.

Dg8787
03-25-17, 19:01
In January I had a great ST session with a bar girl. The next night I brought her back to my hotel for round 2. Things were different starting with the 5 minute walk from the bar to my hotel, she couldn't walk straight and almost fell a couple of times. In the room she was awkward and acted strange. Knocked over a lamp while trying to get a bottle of water from the night stand. Too much energy. Tried to hold water in her mouth but ended up drooling most of it on the bed. Couldn't apply the condom like she did the night before. Thrashed about during sex whereas the night before she was an excellent partner.

I don't know if this was ice or something different. But whatever it was, I didn't appreciate the effects.I am not an expert on Ice or Meth but that kind of erratic behavior sounds like it or some other kind of drugs. You are lucky she didn't go psycho on you and created a scene.

PinkPearl
03-25-17, 20:33
Hi,

First time in Bangkok and leaving tomorrow.

Would appreciate if someone could help me in finding Russian / Japanese / middle eastern women or a good place to try a good threesome.

Thanks in advance.There is an entire thread dedicated to the subject.

It's called "Foreign Sex Workers in Thailand":

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand

As regards a threesome, that's quite easy to arrange just about anywhere in Bangkok, with street girls near NEP or gogo bars, etc.

XXL
03-26-17, 11:33
I am not an expert on Ice or Meth but that kind of erratic behavior sounds like it or some other kind of drugs. You are lucky she didn't go psycho on you and created a scene.What happens if there's a scene and the police gets involved? I hope they're honest about finding out what happened and who did drugs and who didn't. Usually this would be done with a [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) test or a mouth swipe.

HorseTrader
03-26-17, 15:04
What happens if there's a scene and the police gets involved? I hope they're honest about finding out what happened and who did drugs and who didn't. Usually this would be done with a [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) test or a mouth swipe.I don't worry about what is in my system, I'm careful about that. I do worry about what she has in her bag when she enters my room. Sometimes it is a tiny bag with little more than lipstick. Sometimes it is a huge bag with a change of clothes and who knows what else.

Reaper78
03-26-17, 15:44
I don't believe I've heard of this place but it looks good. I initially suspected it might be a place for Thais only but the website is in English. Thanks for the info.I don't think it's a massage place anymore. A lot of tour buses go there. They have this night street market and Muay Thai bouts, and from what I saw yesterday. May cater toward the Chinese tourist crowd. The massage place may still be operational. I could check it out for you if you want.

LoverG
03-26-17, 16:40
Hi,

I am planning to visit BKK in June. I have been in BKK once before and aware of NANA and scene around it.

This time, I am here for a little longer (6 days) than last time. Would Pattaya be a good option for a couple of days? My preferences are not super specific. Just looking for good girls to bang.

I did try to rtff and find info but I am challenged getting the info which can help me make a decision and proceed with the hotel bookings.

Also, it will be great if someone can advise how reliable are the airbnb's in BKK?

Thanks in Advance.

Syzygies
03-26-17, 19:07
Hi,

I am planning to visit BKK in June. I have been in BKK once before and aware of NANA and scene around it.

This time, I am here for a little longer (6 days) than last time. Would Pattaya be a good option for a couple of days? My preferences are not super specific. Just looking for good girls to bang.

I did try to rtff and find info but I am challenged getting the info which can help me make a decision and proceed with the hotel bookings.

Also, it will be great if someone can advise how reliable are the airbnb's in BKK?

Thanks in Advance.AirBNB can be tricky and is probably not that worthwhile for such a short trip. I may be wrong. June is not high season. Hotels are easier.

Why not go straight to Pattaya but only book first night initially. See if you like it and make further Hotel bookings as needed. I never saw the need to know what I would do for an entire trip in advance. Go with the flow. See what you are liking. If not that enthused by Pattaya come straight back to Bangkok.

Read the Pattaya thread and Pattaya Hotels Thread. It contains experience of others. However no one can tell you what you will like. You must find out for yourself. Try things.

Syzygies
03-26-17, 19:27
I don't think it's a massage place anymore. A lot of tour buses go there. They have this night street market and Muay Thai bouts, and from what I saw yesterday. May cater toward the Chinese tourist crowd. The massage place may still be operational. I could check it out for you if you want.I found some comment s dated 2009 about VIVA Palace suggesting Farangs not very welcome. LOL.

Here is a direct quote of what one reviewer wrote:
"Viva really does suck (and not in a good way). Old facilities and average women.
I live out that way and I prefer Colonze on Rama 9 or Tarawadee on Pattanakarn.
Haven't tried the newer one Rewadee (sp?) on Ramkamhaeng (near the hospital). ".
It's not great for me to post opinion of some unknown, however I have not been myself, so cannot say.

Here is Mick's Soapy Map of a few years back (needs some updates):
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1evMrgWXl50uDmmr6Mhr9HkwZAbs&hl=en_US&ll=13.772680336793906%2C100.59313800000007&z=11
I noticed the pin for Krung Thon Complex somehow got moved to completely the wrong place. Accidents can happen while editing.

Shows VIVA was once called Huyin.

PinkPearl
03-27-17, 00:01
What happens if there's a scene and the police gets involved? I hope they're honest about finding out what happened and who did drugs and who didn't. Usually this would be done with a (snip) test or a mouth swipe.I've read of a required urination test from news reports years ago. Never any mouth swabs.

These raids occurred in business places like bars, not in hotel rooms or on the street with freelancers.

Ladies of the street get raided often but for soliciting, not drugs. So LE can pad their income with fines they charge. Their clients are never bothered by police in these raids, since they are the source of this income.

Occasionally there's a report of a farang who has been drugged.

Don't expect Thai police to be as honest as those in Western countries. But in retired living for several years in total in LOS for nothing but Thai P4 P street gals, I never had a single issue or encounter with LE. Even with P4P being full of drug use in the NEP area I lived in & partook of regularly.

Juicyclamlover
03-27-17, 02:10
AirBNB can be tricky and is probably not that worthwhile for such a short trip. I may be wrong. June is not high season. Hotels are easier.

Why not go straight to Pattaya but only book first night initially. See if you like it and make further Hotel bookings as needed. I never saw the need to know what I would do for an entire trip in advance. Go with the flow. See what you are liking. If not that enthused by Pattaya come straight back to Bangkok.

Read the Pattaya thread and Pattaya Hotels Thread. It contains experience of others. However no one can tell you what you will like. You must find out for yourself. Try things.I agree, June is low season so hotels offer good discounts and I would definitely split your time between Pattaya and BKK.

Member #4591
03-27-17, 02:25
I don't believe I've heard of this place but it looks good. I initially suspected it might be a place for Thais only but the website is in English. Thanks for the info.Guys I've been there. The initial report was mine. Please read. The english name was just clarified by Syggs. That's all. It is farang friendly.

Smoothy
03-27-17, 04:46
I've read of a required urination test from news reports years ago. Never any mouth swabs.

These raids occurred in business places like bars, not in hotel rooms or on the street with freelancers.

Ladies of the street get raided often but for soliciting, not drugs. So LE can pad their income with fines they charge. Their clients are never bothered by police in these raids, since they are the source of this income.

Occasionally there's a report of a farang who has been drugged.

Don't expect Thai police to be as honest as those in Western countries. But in retired living for several years in total in LOS for nothing but Thai P4 P street gals, I never had a single issue or encounter with LE. Even with P4P being full of drug use in the NEP area I lived in & partook of regularly.I happens a lot more in Indonesia than in Thailand. I've never seen it in Thailand. However, it's a fairly regular occurrence in Indonesia. And they don't just raid business places, they set up street road blocks and randomly check people in their cars / taxis for drug possession and drug use. I've not heard of anyone getting raided in their hotel room, but on the street, absolutely.

Syzygies
03-28-17, 07:15
CH lineup at 9 PM was better than Friday at 9 PM. Some of the prettier girls do not seem to show up on Friday or Saturday for some reason, or maybe show up late. Fines for starting after 9 PM though. Monday 11 pm the line up was even better. Some girls could have arrived around 9 PM but still be in changing room.

I don't know that many girls any more. A lot of girls I knew have left, or simply not attending at this time. Some girls I knew well have changed number. They may have lost there original number due to non attendance for a period. Oom went from 91 to 78 (I think). Noi went from 87 to 63. Original CH girls (since first opening) are still there in small numbers: Kratae (put on weight), Oom (lost weight. Skinny now), TaengMo (seen Fri), and one more (forget the name). Other girls I knew were Phraow (ex Doll House starfish), inverted nipples Mon, and also Natty's tall sleek girl. Smoothy's raunchy piercings girl Ice seen Friday but not Monday.

I chatted to No. 9 Fern who seemed cute (very small tits) but maybe not hot enough for me to pull the trigger. Fall back was regular girl Jane (No. 4). She gives good reliable service including rimming, without even asking for it. Very popular natural spinner type. Many girls will go up country for Songkhran festival 13 April. So expect weak line ups at that time.

Overall CH bores me these days, other than seeing my old regular girls like Jane and Oom, and seeing a bit of nice pussy. CH was at its best maybe a couple of years ago. Oom tells me that Waew is there returned after a baby and that I know her. However I could not remember Waew too well at all, name rings a faint bell. Would have to consult my old notes. My old notes show nothing. Maybe tried her once. I quickly forget poor performers. Memory of old girls met maybe once fades away.

The plus side of CH for me, is very few fatties, and still relatively few nose and tit jobs and weird hairstyles compared to Baccara (many alien looks like the Star Wars Cantina). Very pretty girls? Hard to find. Have to settle for good slim natural bodies.

Bad Duck
03-28-17, 09:17
I have to say that although I am a newbie here I've RTFF and feel like I know this place perfectly. Best advice ever: RTFF.

I reached bkk at 1 am reached suk soi 8 by 3 after breezing through immigration. Didn't want to go punting outside so booked through smooci and Venus comes over at 430. Noticed a little hesitation from her but she got with it and did what I asked. Decent BBBJ and good riding. Didn't allow me to COF so I COT. 2400 bht.

Next day walked into Wood bar like I owned the place. Mama showed me the lineup and picked a petite cutie. She washed me up and gave me a seat. She went all out on Jonny didin give him a moment to relax. I can't believe how she sucked my balls so much. CIM and left. 1000 bht.

Headed out to Nana like I owned the place again. Found a beer bar and sat down. My balls were too dry to do anything after Wood. Ladyboys tried to pick me up. I want to try them but scared a bit. Any advice?

Left bkk to Phuket and walked down Bangla. Prices are ridiculous. ID rather save up for my return trip to BKK. Read bad reviews about Cristian so sitting opposite it in a bar and writing this review.

I'm definitely doing Annie's or tulip for a 3 some on my way back to bkk. Anyone had luck with LB fun with smooci that is safe?

I have to say that without the help of this forum, I'd be a sore loser not knowing where to spend my money.

Syzygies
03-28-17, 13:59
Used the Asoke Place ST Hotel on Monday night (with Jane from CH).

On a busy night they like to kick you out of the room after 60 minutes. Telephone rings to tell you time is up. However Monday at 9 PM or so was not busy. I asked how much for 90 minutes. They smiled and said 350 Baht. I think I may have actually used slightly more than 90 minutes. Was 10:49 pm when I got out.

I don't think the deal is so generous on a busy night like Friday or Saturday. However I suspect they don't kick you out if no one is waiting on a room. Informal policy.

Smoothy
03-28-17, 14:28
Used the Asoke Place ST Hotel on Monday night (with Jane from CH).

On a busy night they like to kick you out of the room after 60 minutes. Telephone rings to tell you time is up. However Monday at 9 PM or so was not busy. I asked how much for 90 minutes. They smiled and said 350 Baht. I think I may have actually used slightly more than 90 minutes. Was 10:49 pm when I got out.

I don't think the deal is so generous on a busy night like Friday or Saturday. However I suspect they don't kick you out if no one is waiting on a room. Informal policy.90 minutes? I am a bit confused on what constitutes a "short time" session these days. I took a girl to my hotel recently and shagged her for about 90 minutes (we had been in the room about 2 hours at that point). At around 4 am, she told me that she had not agreed to long time and that I needed to finish within the next 5 minutes. We began shagging again and I did not finish within the next 5 minutes, so she put an end to the session. She got up and went to the shower. When she came out, she was fully clothed and demanding 2000 baht (we had agreed to 2500 in the bar). I told her since I wasn't finished, I would give her 1000 baht, and if she wanted to continue and make me cum, I would give her 2500. She glared at me for what seemed like an eternity, then told me to fuck off, took the 1000 baht and left.

Goatscrot
03-28-17, 16:17
90 minutes? I am a bit confused on what constitutes a "short time" session these days. I took a girl to my hotel recently and shagged her for about 90 minutes (we had been in the room about 2 hours at that point). At around 4 am, she told me that she had not agreed to long time and that I needed to finish within the next 5 minutes. We began shagging again and I did not finish within the next 5 minutes, so she put an end to the session. She got up and went to the shower. When she came out, she was fully clothed and demanding 2000 baht (we had agreed to 2500 in the bar). I told her since I wasn't finished, I would give her 1000 baht, and if she wanted to continue and make me cum, I would give her 2500. She glared at me for what seemed like an eternity, then told me to fuck off, took the 1000 baht and left.I applaud you only giving her 1k. If more guys did that we'd all get better service. Not surprised at her attitude though. One night a few years ago we sat on the second floor of Nana Plaza at the little bar next to the ST hotel. We were there about 2 hrs and we decided to time the "couples" going in and out of the hotel. The average was less than 30 min for each couple. One rather fetching lass hit the hotel 3 times in two hours! So think about it. That's each person taking a shower before and after. So what, maybe 10 min of action at best? Dudes are paying over 100 USD in toto for 10 min of sex. So no wonder the gal was unhappy you wanted to go on for 120 min. She is just not used to that. They are spoiled beyond comprehension. And it is not their fault. It is the punters.

Arn Poddict
03-28-17, 17:47
Next up after a rest was club 102 - must have been 30-40 girls working at 8 pm. Picked one that suited my tastes and we went to the room. Nice room, big albeit hard bed. She actually gave a decent oil massage and then a serviceable but a bit toothy BBBJ. Cap on and sex in several positions. She seemed to enjoy it and had a good finish. Followed up with a Thai style massage to close out the time.
I visited Club 102 a few days ago. Booked Michelle. Slim all natural girl. She gave me a good massage first, much better than at most of the oil massage places. Followed by a great fuck. This girl can ride a cock!

Syzygies
03-28-17, 19:29
90 minutes? I am a bit confused on what constitutes a "short time" session these days. I took a girl to my hotel recently and shagged her for about 90 minutes (we had been in the room about 2 hours at that point). At around 4 am, she told me that she had not agreed to long time and that I needed to finish within the next 5 minutes. We began shagging again and I did not finish within the next 5 minutes, so she put an end to the session. She got up and went to the shower. When she came out, she was fully clothed and demanding 2000 baht (we had agreed to 2500 in the bar). I told her since I wasn't finished, I would give her 1000 baht, and if she wanted to continue and make me cum, I would give her 2500. She glared at me for what seemed like an eternity, then told me to fuck off, took the 1000 baht and left.She had no way of knowing if you would ever cum. So she had to cut her losses.

You certainly stiffed her. ST does not go on forever until you come. Normally 2 hours would be about the limit. If all guys did like you and decided to fuck for hours, decide not to cum, then pay less than half the agreed price, it will be a bad situation with extreme lack of trust, and girls will be wanting the money up front.

Even I don't cum, I still pay the money, if the girl did her best for quite long enough. The girl did not cheat you. You should not cheat her. You may not be able to use that bar again due to the bad gossip you are due.

Syzygies
03-28-17, 19:55
Someone said Bangkok Bunnies was pretty good. I had a look. Good for some yes, if you are type who likes Baccara maybe, since there is a lot of silicone in their. Perhaps 50% of girls. Hard to tell exactly and some girls tops are highly covered. I thought the standard of girls had improved since my last visit maybe a year ago. Not many skinny girls and not many fatties. Mostly medium sized. Of all the girls that were topless, not one set of really nice natural tits. All were either enhanced or saggy. Really pretty faces? Not really. One or two nice looking girls but a bit too covered up for me.

Moved on to Billboard. Different type of girls altogether. Spinners. Rather slimmer on average. Did not spot a single set of implants at all. The topless girls were all natural and not many saggy tits around. No crazy Baccara like hairstyles either. Much more my type of girls similar to Crazy House types. Did not really try to check noses carefully, but generally more natural looking girls. Really pretty faces? Again not many so not really much better than Bangkok Bunnies for pretty faces.

Moved on to twisters. Wow what a difference! Girls with really great natural bodies (some with implants), but suddenly the total quality of looks including the faces, increased a lot. Several girls were looking really attractive. Twisters seems to have improved since my last visit with even more pretty girls than before. As it gets later the pretty girls diminish since they got BFed. For my taste this bar is well in front of the pack.

Both Twisters and Billboard were quite busy for customers, Bangkok Bunnies had far more girls than customers. So its not just my opinion that Twisters and Billboard have a better standard it seems.

What is my taste? I include a couple of pics of exotic looking 10 point non Thai girls. If Thai girls looked at all close to this I would be happy. Whoops, the last one actually is Thai. The Baccara look is not even slightly like the looks of these girls. A few twisters girls look good though for both face and body and maybe could score 8 out of 10.

Member #4591
03-29-17, 02:31
I applaud you only giving her 1k. If more guys did that we'd all get better service. Not surprised at her attitude though. One night a few years ago we sat on the second floor of Nana Plaza at the little bar next to the ST hotel. We were there about 2 hrs and we decided to time the "couples" going in and out of the hotel. The average was less than 30 min for each couple. One rather fetching lass hit the hotel 3 times in two hours! So think about it. That's each person taking a shower before and after. So what, maybe 10 min of action at best? Dudes are paying over 100 USD in toto for 10 min of sex. So no wonder the gal was unhappy you wanted to go on for 120 min. She is just not used to that. They are spoiled beyond comprehension. And it is not their fault. It is the punters.I'm just wondering what the girl did wrong. She serviced the guy for 90 minutes, stayed with him for 2 hours but he did not finish. By Smoothy and your definition of short time, if you take 2 hours to finish or 4 hours to finish, it would not matter. This is crazy! ST is 1 pop in a reasonable amount of time and I think 2-3 hours YMMV is reasonable. You are comparing 10 minutes of action to a girl who tried her best for almost 2 hours, discounted her rate by 500 for him not finishing and accepting 1,000 instead. Give your head a shake man!

Oosik
03-29-17, 04:46
Even I don't cum, I still pay the money, if the girl did her best for quite long enough.I'm notoriously hard to get off and fully expect to pay full fare regardless of the outcome, again assuming a good job. Based on the rental period for the short-time hotels I figure if I want much more than 90 minutes or possibly even 60 I'd better make it quite clear in the initial negotiations. After all, to the girl a minute is the same regardless of the accommodations.

The only time I've felt cheated was a vastly different situation: Last visit I went over the time limit (maybe 30 minutes?) at Som's Haven and got charged double. I suppose I should have just smiled and taken the lass back upstairs to get my money's worth but had places to go so didn't see if that would work. On the one hand, yes, I went over the limit (no regular rooms so had to go to the FS room with longer before and after cleanings) so cannot really argue, but the lack of warning was a little galling. The former Dr BJ had phones in each stall to call when the time was up.

Smoothy
03-29-17, 05:36
What is my taste? I include a couple of pics of exotic looking 10 point non Thai girls. If Thai girls looked at all close to this I would be happy. Whoops, the last one actually is Thai. All of those girls are hot with the exception of the last one.

Goatscrot
03-29-17, 05:45
I'm just wondering what the girl did wrong. She serviced the guy for 90 minutes, stayed with him for 2 hours but he did not finish. By Smoothy and your definition of short time, if you take 2 hours to finish or 4 hours to finish, it would not matter. This is crazy! ST is 1 pop in a reasonable amount of time and I think 2-3 hours YMMV is reasonable. You are comparing 10 minutes of action to a girl who tried her best for almost 2 hours, discounted her rate by 500 for him not finishing and accepting 1,000 instead. Give your head a shake man!Smoothy did actually offer her the full fare to stay and finish the job. And hey, they only went at it for 95 minutes according to Smoothy. Not so much time in my books. And so, she stays another 30 min or so. 2500 Baht for 2 - 3 hours work is really pretty good money.

Banana Boi
03-29-17, 05:46
Irina Shayk in the red bikini is the only girl in Syzy's photos I like. Syzy shouldn't be surprised with our opposite end of the spectrum tastes. The Thai girl is kinda cute. Would be much better if she changed her hairstyle to this century.


No crazy Baccara like hairstyles either.

I understand now. You're not into modern fashion.

Goatscrot
03-29-17, 05:52
Even I don't cum, I still pay the money, if the girl did her best for quite long enough. The girl did not cheat you. You should not cheat her. You may not be able to use that bar again due to the bad gossip you are due.Smoothy did not comment on whether the gal had done her "best" or not. ST is usually considered 1 pop by these gals. Now, most of the time this works in the gals favor because most dudes come quite quickly and sometimes not as in the case of Smoothy. If she wants to commit to a certain time frame, say 90 min, then that is a different story. In that case I would expect 90 min whether I come three times or none. On reason I like oilies is I have a block of time and never hear after 5 min of intercourse, "you finit, you finit."

PinkPearl
03-29-17, 05:53
I'm just wondering what the girl did wrong. She serviced the guy for 90 minutes, stayed with him for 2 hours but he did not finish. By Smoothy and your definition of short time, if you take 2 hours to finish or 4 hours to finish, it would not matter. This is crazy! ST is 1 pop in a reasonable amount of time and I think 2-3 hours YMMV is reasonable. You are comparing 10 minutes of action to a girl who tried her best for almost 2 hours, discounted her rate by 500 for him not finishing and accepting 1,000 instead. Give your head a shake man!I've generally paid the ladies of the street around the NEP area double the usual 1000 baht short time, since I would keep them for the full hour & due to the type of services I required.

Considering they often finished a date in half that time, I thought that was reasonable. It seemed to generally make them happy.

Also with me staying nearby at the Nana Hotel was convenient for both me & the ladies. Very little travelling time or getting sweaty involved.

Goatscrot
03-29-17, 05:56
What is my taste? I include a couple of pics of exotic looking 10 point non Thai girls. If Thai girls looked at all close to this I would be happy. Whoops, the last one actually is Thai. The Baccara look is not even slightly like the looks of these girls. A few twisters girls look good though for both face and body and maybe could score 8 out of 10.Only gal in the bunch I am attracted to is the one in the red bikini.

Syzygies
03-29-17, 06:02
Smoothy did not comment on whether the gal had done her "best" or not. ST is usually considered 1 pop by these gals. Now, most of the time this works in the gals favor because most dudes come quite quickly and sometimes not as in the case of Smoothy. If she wants to commit to a certain time frame, say 90 min, then that is a different story. In that case I would expect 90 min whether I come three times or none. On reason I like oilies is I have a block of time and never hear after 5 min of intercourse, "you finit, you finit."Two hours is the longest time that a ST goes for. In fact for many girls you would not get 2 hours (that is a different issue). He commented 90 minutes of actual fucking. A ST definitely does not go until the guy pops. We may not pop till tomorrow or next week. The girl's frustration was warranted. She offered 5 minutes more. If he wanted more, he should have specified a maximum amount of extra time he needed, rather than unlimited time. In other words act reasonably.

Girls hate Viagra as it can allow a guy to fuck for 90 minutes without popping. Never happened in the old days. Almost never.

Guys that want 2 hours or more need to negotiate for that in the original price. Guys want the world from the girl but treat them badly. Pay up front got introduced at MPs because the guys could not be trusted to pay the agreed amounts (for the session time). Not about whether he popped or not.

To make the girl trust him at all, he could have said here is 2K (that she requested) now. If you stay for another 30 minutes, I give you 1K more. Even then she may have had enough and been fucked out already, and refused the extra time.

On a Tangent, something that made me laugh. Someone (possibly Expat Lover) wrote that in Germany FKK you get 30 minutes for 50 Euros with the girl, but that it is very rare for a guy to use the whole 30 minutes to get his one pop. Seemed strange to me since I never pop within 30 minutes, at least probably not in the last 10 years. I waste some time firstly with kissing and DATY. Actual fucking is still normally much more than 30 mins. I like 1 to 2 hour sessions. However Smoothy wants the girl to fuck for more than 90 minutes (and only wasted 30 minutes in shower and other things). In FKK there is no problem. Each additional 30 minutes or part thereof costs another 50 Euros. The girl doesn't get cheated. A 2 hour session costs a lot more than in Thailand of course, but reasonable value for a 30 minute quickie.

Syzygies
03-29-17, 06:03
Only gal in the bunch I am attracted to is the one in the red bikini.Sure I just show what is my style, so it is clear. These are all considered stunners by others of course, but not everyone's taste.

Syzygies
03-29-17, 06:13
Irina Shayk in the red bikini is the only girl in Syzy's photos I like. Syzy shouldn't be surprised with our opposite end of the spectrum tastes. The Thai girl is kinda cute. Would be much better if she changed her hairstyle to this century.
The Thai girl pic is very old. At least 20 years ago. So never mind her hair. I sure her hair would be different today. These pics are also from 20+ years ago. Unfortunately the girl died in an accident. Hence old hairstyles from the time. However still very cute for me.

Hair and wigs in Baccara are truly horrible. Many styles are designed to hide a large portion of the face. I like to see the face properly.

Most black girls on Sukhumvit are ugly, but last night was very attracted to one with big hot Angelina Jolie lips and slim, but big tits, and not too big ass. Unfortunately I had just fucked a girl already. Otherwise might have tried the black girl. Exotic looks is something I like. Skin colour is not important for me.

EihTooms
03-29-17, 06:24
Somebody wrote recently something to the effect that good looking girls don't need to do anal. Can't remember where I saw it. But I would go further than that; good looking Thai girls don't need to peddle their wares in Go-Go Bars, MPs, Escort Agencies, Freelancing or anywhere else in the P4 P industry. Not really good looking Thai girls agreed upon to be so by most within their own circle. True 9's and 10's get scooped up by well-to-do Thai men and taken care of as far from the P4 P scene as possible.

That doesn't mean a rare stunner or two doesn't pop up for a brief time in a bar somewhere every now and then. But I doubt very seriously they couldn't be out-barfined faster and more enthusiastically than the 5th best looking non P4P Thai girl who rode up the long escalator at Terminal 21 between Noon and 1PM last Friday should that girl decide for whatever weird reason to don a bikini or less and stand on the stage at Crazy House, Baccara, Billboard or Twister Bar.

Very different standard between the Thai Go-Go Bar world or anywhere else in the P4 P scene and what is out there in the real world, imo. The pics posted by Syzy, looking AS THEY LOOK in those pics whether they were photo-shopped or not? None of us have ever seen a girl who looks that good standing in the buff on a Bangkok or Pattaya Go-Go Bar waiting to be barfined for the going rate. Or even double that amount. lol.

Syzygies
03-29-17, 06:37
Somebody wrote recently something to the effect that good looking girls don't need to do anal. Can't remember where I saw it. But I would go further than that; good looking girls don't need to peddle their wares in Go-Go Bars, MPs, Escort Agencies, Freelancing or anywhere else in the P4 P industry. Not really good looking girls agreed upon to be so by most within their own circle. True 9's and 10's get scooped up by well-to-do Thai men and taken care of as far from the P4 P scene as possible.

That doesn't mean a rare stunner or two doesn't pop up for a brief time in a bar somewhere every now and then.I agree for once. It is very hard to find girls at all close to stunning in the P4 P industry, especially the Oilies average standard of looks is not high. Fortunately we are not forced to choose average looking P4 P girls.

Soapies are full of girls with badly done surgeries too. Saw a topless girl last night with very realistic implants at Twisters. I could tell were implants mainly because were a little too good and did not bounce normally. I could have taken her though since the tits did not look ugly as most implants do, and face was also good. Maybe her skin was a little too tan coloured for the white skin bigots.

Robert Long
03-29-17, 06:40
Somebody wrote recently something to the effect that good looking girls don't need to do anal. Can't remember where I saw it. But I would go further than that; good looking girls don't need to peddle their wares in Go-Go Bars, MPs, Escort Agencies, Freelancing or anywhere else in the P4 P industry. Not really good looking girls agreed upon to be so by most within their own circle. True 9's and 10's get scooped up by well-to-do Thai men and taken care of as far from the P4 P scene as possible.

That doesn't mean a rare stunner or two doesn't pop up for a brief time in a bar somewhere every now and then. But I doubt very seriously they couldn't be out-barfined faster and more enthusiastically than the 5th best looking non P4P Thai girl who rode up the long escalator at Terminal 21 between Noon and 1PM last Friday should that girl decide for whatever weird reason to don a bikini or less and stand on the stage at Crazy House, Baccara, Billboard or Twister Bar.

Very different standard between the Thai Go-Go Bar world or anywhere else in the P4 P scene and what is out there in the real world, imo. The pics posted by Syzy, looking AS THEY LOOK in those pics whether they were shopped or not? None of us have ever seen a girl who looks that good standing in the buff on a Bangkok or Pattaya Go-Go Bar waiting to be barfined for the going rate. Or even double that amount. lol.You got it. I remember that remark by someone in the forum. You put on your beer glasses and they all begin to look good. 3 or 4 drinks and you'll leave with anything with legs. I remember sitting in Bangkok Beat and seeing the drunk Farangs walk in with the LB's and make out in the rear corner. I limit my alcohol intake in BKK. I don't want any surprises or Coyote ugly events in my life.

RL.

EihTooms
03-29-17, 06:52
You got it. I remember that remark by someone in the forum. You put on your beer glasses and they all begin to look good. 3 or 4 drinks and you'll leave with anything with legs. I remember sitting in Bangkok Beat and seeing the drunk Farangs walk in with the LB's and make out in the rear corner. I limit my alcohol intake in BKK. I don't want any surprises or Coyote ugly events in my life.

RL.The thing is, this is only a provable theory in real life, walking around the malls and office buildings throughout Thailand with a friend with each of you pointing out the true 9's and 10's around here. Photos lie or fall short of the reality too much. A better photographer could certainly make a bargirl 6 look better than any photo I could take of that girl you saw stepping out of a taxi at Central Embassy who you might not be able to shake from your memory for a week. And once you are cruising the bar areas on the hunt, a different reference point and unit of measure takes over even if you don't drink alcohol at all.

But in real life, walking around, you see one impossibly beautiful girl with hair, skin tone, body proportions, near perfect facial features, etc. like you have never seen up close and personal with any Go-Go bargirl ever. Then you turn a corner and see an even better looking one walking in the other direction. So you have just seen real examples of a true Thai 9 and a Thai 10. Until you see another one even better looking and more impossibly beautiful than the other two. LOL.

Sure, I suppose one might say you never can tell what horrors are going on under those clothes, giving the Go-Go Bar girl a potential edge. But, seriously, if what is going on under those clothes is just 75% as good as what you see in their overall body, arms, legs, neck, face, cleavage and so on, they still beat virtually every Go-Go Bar girl I have ever seen.

EihTooms
03-29-17, 07:13
I agree for once. It is very hard to find girls at all close to stunning in the P4 P industry, especially the Oilies average standard of looks is not high. Fortunately we are not forced to choose average looking P4 P girls.

Soapies are full of girls with badly done surgeries too. Saw a topless girl last night with very realistic implants at Twisters. I could tell were implants mainly because were a little too good and did not bounce normally. I could have taken her though since the tits did not look ugly as most implants do, and face was also good. Maybe her skin was a little too tan coloured for the white skin bigots.The other interesting thing is the best looking bar girls know they aren't really up there with the best looking real world Thai girls, say 8's and up, that are easily observable around town. They certainly never felt it growing up, never got that message from the boys in the neighborhood. If they ever felt with certainty they were up at that level, they wouldn't be working in a go-go bar in the first place. Not saying those guys didn't want and didn't try to fuck them. Of course, they did. And on that measure, the better looking bar girls might feel secure. But on what they know very well is the standard of Thai beauty all around them, they know they are not even in the running and would probably avoid settings where a side-by-side comparison is likely to occur too much and too often like the plague.

Understanding that about them, the "they don't need to do anal sex" issue comes into play again. It is my opinion that the only reason better looking bargirls perhaps don't engage in activities WE might think they are too good looking to agree to is because they are not asked to do them often enough by customers too intimidated by their relative good looks to ask it of them. They did not grow up thinking they were entitled or so special they wouldn't need to do more or do better to please. They had eyes. They could see the girls who might be entitled that way and they were not them.

Imo, that they don't engage in whatever it is we might like them to engage in is really a result of lower self-esteem on the customer's part, a lack of confidence to outright ask for it, than higher self-esteem on the bargirl's part. We put them on a pedestal they have never felt they belonged on in their lives.

Syzygies
03-29-17, 07:29
On a Tangent, something that made me laugh. Someone (possibly Expat Lover) wrote that in Germany FKK you get 30 minutes for 50 Euros with the girl, but that it is very rare for a guy to use the whole 30 minutes to get his one pop. Correction: I now see it was CrocodileExp who recently wrote:

"ST is indeed typically 1 pop, though it rarely takes the entire hour. It is not uncommon for an ST to be 2 pops and take up to 2 hours, but that has to be agreed in advance. ".

I agree with the part that if you want more than usual, e. G. 2 pops or more than 2 hours, you had better discuss with the girl so no misunderstanding. There has to be a time limit for ST.

Jimmy Boy 99
03-29-17, 15:44
Snip. Headed out to Nana like I owned the place again. Found a beer bar and sat down. My balls were too dry to do anything after Wood. Ladyboys tried to pick me up. I want to try them but scared a bit. Any advice?

Left bkk to Phuket and walked down Bangla. Prices are ridiculous. ID rather save up for my return trip to BKK. Read bad reviews about Cristian so sitting opposite it in a bar and writing this review.

I'm definitely doing Annie's or tulip for a 3 some on my way back to bkk. Anyone had luck with LB fun with smooci that is safe?

I have to say that without the help of this forum, I'd be a sore loser not knowing where to spend my money.There's a thread in the Thailand forum called Identifying Transvestites, whose purpose is to show how to spot and avoid them, that may be of interest. However, asking how to find ladyboys to have sex with is a quick way to get kicked off ISG.

Bad Duck
03-29-17, 17:04
There's a thread in the Thailand forum called Identifying Transvestites, whose purpose is to show how to spot and avoid them, that may be of interest. However, asking how to find ladyboys to have sex with is a quick way to get kicked off ISG.Alrighty. I'll keep that in mind. However I didn't ask how to spot them. I was just scoping for success stories.

Thanks for the heads up. Sometimes I can be a complete noob.

Member #4591
03-29-17, 17:29
There's a thread in the Thailand forum called Identifying Transvestites, whose purpose is to show how to spot and avoid them, that may be of interest. However, asking how to find ladyboys to have sex with is a quick way to get kicked off ISG.I think the op could get away with discussing this topic in the smooci advertiser thread since they offer that service and they pay ISG a fee.

Member #4591
03-29-17, 17:35
I have to say that although I am a newbie here I've RTFF and feel like I know this place perfectly. Best advice ever: RTFF.

I reached bkk at 1 am reached suk soi 8 by 3 after breezing through immigration. Didn't want to go punting outside so booked through smooci and Venus comes over at 430. Noticed a little hesitation from her but she got with it and did what I asked. Decent BBBJ and good riding. Didn't allow me to COF so I COT. 2400 bht.

Next day walked into Wood bar like I owned the place. Mama showed me the lineup and picked a petite cutie. She washed me up and gave me a seat. She went all out on Jonny didin give him a moment to relax. I can't believe how she sucked my balls so much. CIM and left. 1000 bht.

Headed out to Nana like I owned the place again. Found a beer bar and sat down. My balls were too dry to do anything after Wood. Ladyboys tried to pick me up. I want to try them but scared a bit. Any advice?

Left bkk to Phuket and walked down Bangla. Prices are ridiculous. ID rather save up for my return trip to BKK. Read bad reviews about Cristian so sitting opposite it in a bar and writing this review.

I'm definitely doing Annie's or tulip for a 3 some on my way back to bkk. Anyone had luck with LB fun with smooci that is safe?

I have to say that without the help of this forum, I'd be a sore loser not knowing where to spend my money.It is prohibited to discuss this on the forum. I would suggest you PM admin and ask if you could post in the smooci advertiser thread about this topic since they offer that service and pay ISG. Otherwise you can PM smooci directly to discuss your options or PM another senior member to get some feedback. You may need to purchase a membership to use the PM feature as I'm not sure of your member status. Most seniors know not to discuss this topic so that's why I question your ignorance and member status.

Bad Duck
03-29-17, 18:02
I think the op could get away with discussing this topic in the smooci advertiser thread since they offer that service and they pay ISG a fee.


It is prohibited to discuss this on the forum. I would suggest you PM admin and ask if you could post in the smooci advertiser thread about this topic since they offer that service and pay ISG. Otherwise you can PM smooci directly to discuss your options or PM another senior member to get some feedback. You may need to purchase a membership to use the PM feature as I'm not sure of your member status. Most seniors know not to discuss this topic so that's why I question your ignorance and member status.Will keep that in mind henceforth.

Syzygies
03-29-17, 18:42
Headed out to Nana like I owned the place again. Found a beer bar and sat down. My balls were too dry to do anything after Wood. Ladyboys tried to pick me up. I want to try them but scared a bit. Any advice?
This a forum for pussy lovers and not for dick lovers. If you are like me, it is fine to talk, drink, and socialise with the nicer ladyboys, but I don't certainly don't want to see their crotch or mess with it. So as others pointed out, this forum does not allow discussions of sex with ladyboys. Or anything verging on that. The moderators probably consider it to be a somewhat doubtful activity verging on homosexual / bisexual which is not what this forum is about. There is no problem however to discuss ladies performing sexual activities on other ladies. I have certainly met and enjoyed some bi-sexual Thai girls.

Smoothy
03-29-17, 18:56
There has to be a time limit for ST.Some girls are out of my place within 15 minutes. Others are longer. I had a girl come over during the day in Jakarta at 3 pm for a short time session. We had so much fun having her try on various sexy outfits, taking photos, talking about many things, and of course having sex that she ended up staying until 11 pm. So it was an 8 hour short time. She didn't complain at all. In fact, she came over the following day for another "short time" where she was in my place for 6 hours.

Aviator12
03-29-17, 21:28
She had no way of knowing if you would ever cum. So she had to cut her losses.

You certainly stiffed her. ST does not go on forever until you come. Normally 2 hours would be about the limit. If all guys did like you and decided to fuck for hours, decide not to cum, then pay less than half the agreed price, it will be a bad situation with extreme lack of trust, and girls will be wanting the money up front.
Even I don't cum, I still pay the money, if the girl did her best for quite long enough. The girl did not cheat you. You should not cheat her. You may not be able to use that bar again due to the bad gossip you are due.Finally someone who puts it all in perspective! I agree 100% with you on this Syz. Why not pay for LT if someone want to fuck for several hours or with multiple pops? Thai girls are normally not into long sessions or exotic sex games. They are farm girls most of them! Of course the girl should perform as expected and it is my experience that most will do. But if you start messing with them and play a game the mood will change and it is not always you will be lucky like this with just an angry girl. Next time she might call the police or do some other crazy stuff. Do not play with the girl. Treat them with respect. As Syz indicate; this will benefit us all in the long run.

BenZw126
03-30-17, 00:57
Had booked Rebecca and J-Net. Both were good. Would rate 8/10.

SteveOak
03-30-17, 13:13
I will be arriving in BKK tomorrow, Friday 3/31 and staying for 5 days. Not my first trip but would still appreciate some pointers.

I like spinners, not more than 1.52 m tall and under 40 kilos, natural tits, cute is good.

I will be staying at a hotel halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza and usually patrol that area.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated!

Titto
03-30-17, 19:57
Hi friends,

I am coming to in BKK in April end on a business tour. Plan spend couple of days extra for fun. It's my first trip and wanted to know the reliability of Craigslist ads. It can cut short my time in searching in the bars.

Thanks for your help.

Regards.

Titto.

Syzygies
03-30-17, 20:05
I will be arriving in BKK tomorrow, Friday 3/31 and staying for 5 days. Not my first trip but would still appreciate some pointers.

I like spinners, not more than 1.52 m tall and under 40 kilos, natural tits, cute is good.

I will be staying at a hotel halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza and usually patrol that area.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated!If you like gogo bars at all, I would suggest Billboard (Nana Plaza), for cute little natural tit topless girls in the sudsy bath, also try its sister bar Butterflies (was Jailbirdz), and the Crazy House bar in Soi 23 very near to Cowboy for totally nude spinners (lots of bare pussy to see). My favourite little girl there would be sexy tan skinned Jane No. 4 only just over 40 kilos, or maybe less. Did not weigh her. LOL Great on the bed with rimming, but very small tits though.

You specs only vary from mine in that I take taller girls as well, being a relatively tall guy.

Enjoy! These places should be exciting for you, and the most relevant bars.

Are there any massage places full of spinners? I doubt it. Nothing comes to mind immediately.

Syzygies
03-30-17, 20:23
Had booked Rebecca and J-Net. Both were good. Would rate 8/10.You seem to be in the wrong thread for this. There is an Escorts thread (and an advertising thread). Smooci also has limited relevance.

PinkPearl
03-31-17, 10:36
I will be arriving in BKK tomorrow, Friday 3/31 and staying for 5 days. Not my first trip but would still appreciate some pointers.

I like spinners, not more than 1.52 m tall and under 40 kilos, natural tits, cute is good.

I will be staying at a hotel halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza and usually patrol that area.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated!The average height of a Thai woman has been listed at 5 feet 2 & a half inches. You want one under 5 feet & according to your specs. That shouldn't be hard to find.

Bar & gogo girls are often sitting, so finding out how tall they are could be problematic.

I'd suggest heading towards Nana Hotel keeping your eyes open for street freelancers. Have your measuring tape handy to verify any that look close to the height you are looking for. If you need to weigh any of them, there is a scale for 2 baht outside the seven eleven store at the NEP intersection. You could also ask her how much she weighs, but some ladies might find it insulting.

Best of luck. I hope to read an account of your successful adventures.

PinkPearl
03-31-17, 10:46
I am coming to in BKK in April end on a business tour. Plan spend couple of days extra for fun. It's my first trip and wanted to know the reliability of Craigslist ads. It can cut short my time in searching in the bars.I would be reluctant to trust CL ads for P4P.

I'd suggest rather an escort option based on the reviews in the ISG escort thread.

PerezPerez
03-31-17, 15:34
Hope all members doing well, specially Syz. I didn't post long time for some personal reasons. I am reaching BKK tonight. Went through some pages of this thread and the except tulip and Annie's to know how is it going these days. It's a short visit just 2 and half days, don't know how much can be covered this time. I would be glad to share few drinks with any senior members tomorrow or Sunday around Asoke to Nana may be will visit CH too.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 05:19
I went to Spasso around 1 am and the place was truly hopping. As I was ordering my 330 Baht San Miguel Light beer, a couple of hotties sitting on the bar stools next to me pretty much opened me up and started chatting. I took one of them on the dance floor, but there was no chemistry, so I picked up my beer and told her I would walk around. At the minimum I got social validation from that because all the other girls saw I was a fun guy who attracts other girls.

As I did, at some point a chick makes eye contact with me. I have a double-take but continue walking past, so she pretty much tugs at my sleeve. This is what it feels like to be Brad Pitt! Except he gets that everywhere and I only get it at Spasso.

Anyway, I started to chat with her, some light touching, a bit of dancing. She had a good vibe, a pretty face, nice white skin for an Asian and a decent pair of fake tits. There was good rapport, so I asked if she wanted to "go somewhere else" with me. All the girls ask you in the first 3 minutes how many times you've been at Spasso before, just to double-check that you know you'll have to pay. They don't want to waste their precious time chit-chatting with an unexperienced and uninformed man who thinks he will be getting a freebie. I always answer 5 times. Clearly if I've been 5 times, it signals that I know the deal.

She asked 5000 Baht. I said it was a bit too much. She said how much can I pay? Notice the "can" as in: you get a discount for being poor. I told her I'd pay her 4000 but if she was really good I would give her 1000 Baht tip. She liked that. I like to keep them on their best behavior with the right incentive.

She tried to get me to bring her back to my condo, but I don't want to lose face with my building management, so I asked if she knew a short-time hotel. She said yes, there is one on Soi 3, and I said "PB Hotel", so she was happy I was a knowledgeable client.

We took a taxi to the PB hotel. I managed to get the guy to switch on his meter. The hotel was 380 Baht. I left a 20 Baht tip to the manager. We undressed, and she was pretty thin as I surmised from groping her at Spasso. I asked if she had a condom and she did. Sometimes these girls come unequipped, so I was grateful she hadn't forgotten to bring one. She asked for the money upfront, and I just told her "I always pay the girls afterwards". She said "I trust you" and did not create any more fuss about it. You just have to deliver that line in a totally relaxed and confident way like it's blindingly obvious (which it is).

I pointed to the special sex chair which is standard equipment at PB Hotel and told her I would fuck her in the chair. She seemed a bit taken aback, but she did not say no, so without further ado we got started.

She was very sensual in the sack and I just got hard from being next to her. She rubbed my cock, then gave me a BJ which was actually quite good. For the intromission, she insisted on the missionary, which is unusual because normally the girl wants to be on top in order to control the speed and depth. But I was more than happy to oblige. I flipped her through 5 different positions and we had a good bang. I did her make her lay on the chair with her legs spread out. Was very sexy! I finished in the missionary again. All in all, she deserved the 1000 Baht tip that I had dangled in front of her because she was a good fuck.

Afterwards she gave me a good massage. Unusual for a freelancer, and quite relaxing.

Would I recommend and repeat? Spasso yes, the girl no. There are just so many girls in there, they're all the same after a while. I can't say this one was better or worse than any other. She enjoyed flirting and having sex with me, that was her only differentiating quality that night. Spasso is expensive but it's classy, and that's an atmosphere I like.

Member #4591
04-01-17, 06:32
I went to Spasso around 1 am and the place was truly hopping. As I was ordering my 330 Baht San Miguel Light beer, a couple of hotties sitting on the bar stools next to me pretty much opened me up and started chatting. I took one of them on the dance floor, but there was no chemistry, so I picked up my beer and told her I would walk around. At the minimum I got social validation from that because all the other girls saw I was a fun guy who attracts other girls.

As I did, at some point a chick makes eye contact with me. I have a double-take but continue walking past, so she pretty much tugs at my sleeve. This is what it feels like to be Brad Pitt! Except he gets that everywhere and I only get it at Spasso.

Anyway, I started to chat with her, some light touching, a bit of dancing. She had a good vibe, a pretty face, nice white skin for an Asian and a decent pair of fake tits. There was good rapport, so I asked if she wanted to "go somewhere else" with me. All the girls ask you in the first 3 minutes how many times you've been at Spasso before, just to double-check that you know you'll have to pay. They don't want to waste their precious time chit-chatting with an unexperienced and uninformed man who thinks he will be getting a freebie. I always answer 5 times. Clearly if I've been 5 times, it signals that I know the deal.

She asked 5000 Baht. I said it was a bit too much. She said how much can I pay? Notice the "can" as in: you get a discount for being poor. I told her I'd pay her 4000 but if she was really good I would give her 1000 Baht tip. She liked that. I like to keep them on their best behavior with the right incentive.

She tried to get me to bring her back to my condo, but I don't want to lose face with my building management, so I asked if she knew a short-time hotel. She said yes, there is one on Soi 3, and I said "PB Hotel", so she was happy I was a knowledgeable client.

We took a taxi to the PB hotel. I managed to get the guy to switch on his meter. The hotel was 380 Baht. I left a 20 Baht tip to the manager. We undressed, and she was pretty thin as I surmised from groping her at Spasso. I asked if she had a condom and she did. Sometimes these girls come unequipped, so I was grateful she hadn't forgotten to bring one. She asked for the money upfront, and I just told her "I always pay the girls afterwards". She said "I trust you" and did not create any more fuss about it. You just have to deliver that line in a totally relaxed and confident way like it's blindingly obvious (which it is).

I pointed to the special sex chair which is standard equipment at PB Hotel and told her I would fuck her in the chair. She seemed a bit taken aback, but she did not say no, so without further ado we got started.

She was very sensual in the sack and I just got hard from being next to her. She rubbed my cock, then gave me a BJ which was actually quite good. For the intromission, she insisted on the missionary, which is unusual because normally the girl wants to be on top in order to control the speed and depth. But I was more than happy to oblige. I flipped her through 5 different positions and we had a good bang. I did her make her lay on the chair with her legs spread out. Was very sexy! I finished in the missionary again. All in all, she deserved the 1000 Baht tip that I had dangled in front of her because she was a good fuck.

Afterwards she gave me a good massage. Unusual for a freelancer, and quite relaxing.

Would I recommend and repeat? Spasso yes, the girl no. There are just so many girls in there, they're all the same after a while. I can't say this one was better or worse than any other. She enjoyed flirting and having sex with me, that was her only differentiating quality that night. Spasso is expensive but it's classy, and that's an atmosphere I like.May I ask how old she is? Spasso has so some great looking talent, but I always find them to be above 30. I like them to be 20-25 years old.

Member #4591
04-01-17, 06:43
Hi friends,

I am coming to in BKK in April end on a business tour. Plan spend couple of days extra for fun. It's my first trip and wanted to know the reliability of Craigslist ads. It can cut short my time in searching in the bars.

Thanks for your help.

Regards.

Titto.

After your business tour, here is how you can spend your remaining extra 2 days as you stated.



I understand the way you are thinking but you may run into a few surprises by booking ladies from CL. They can be unreliable and dodgy at times. If you want a good itinerary, I would suggest something like the following:

Morning: sometime between 11:00-13:00 visit an oily for a 2 hour session.

Afternoon: After grab a good lunch to recharge your batteries and head to a Sopie massage or Nuru on Ratchada, Soi 7/1, or Soi 2.

Evening: Have a good dinner again to recharge your batteries a second time and then head over to Nana Plaza. Visit one of the many go go bars and choose a lady for some ST Action in one of the ST hotels nearby.

Then go over to Soi Cowboy into CH and choose another girl for ST Action again in one of the nearby short time hotels. By this time, it should be about midnight. Finally take a breather at the 24 hour pizza place and then head to Thermae, Insanity, Or Climax to pick up a lady for LT Action.

Repeat again on the 2nd day.

You won't waste anytime this way, can see what you are paying for before you commit, and you will have 5 ladies per day. Can you handle it?

Syzygies
04-01-17, 07:21
As I did, at some point a chick makes eye contact with me. I have a double-take but continue walking past, so she pretty much tugs at my sleeve. This is what it feels like to be Brad Pitt! Except he gets that everywhere and I only get it at Spasso.
Imagination.

Yeh the black girls on the Sukhumwit street tug at my sleeve too. Strange it did not make me feel like Brad Pitt.

So Spasso girl costs 5 K for ST (4 K + 1 K tip). Similar to Escort but at least you get to meet her and evaluate chemistry first. Was she so stunning to be worth it? Girl in a Oily MP makes about 1300 on average for a 2 hour customer. So she has to do 4 customers to make the same money. Some nice looking, but maybe not stunning.

If not on a budget, price doesn't matter.

Is there a danger the girl won't look so good when she gets naked back at your Hotel?

Uncle Volodya
04-01-17, 07:31
Would I recommend and repeat? Spasso yes, the girl no. There are just so many girls in there, they're all the same after a while. I can't say this one was better or worse than any other. She enjoyed flirting and having sex with me, that was her only differentiating quality that night. Spasso is expensive but it's classy, and that's an atmosphere I like.Thanks for the report Eric.

I've only been to Spasso once and I found the girls to be mediocre looking an it to be very dark there. I think I went on a Tuesday.

In any case once visit is probably not enough to make a definitive decision about a place. And I am still kind of curious about Spasso.

I know you are an experienced Monger and have enjoyed your reports about picking up girls at Ibar. So I ask you: how, in your opinion, does the quality of the girls compare?

Thanks again for your report and stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

Member #4698
04-01-17, 08:58
I went over to Spasso last night as well. It was around 12:45 am and as reported the bar was hopping. Apparently it was Cowboy and Indian night with several girls in costume. There were plenty of girls, but even more guys in my estimated count. I ordered an Absolute on ice and over the next hour I chatted with two Vietnamese girls (one of which was very attractive) and a very sexy cute Thai girl wearing a seductive v neck black evening dress. I liked the Thai girl best, but since I just had sex with a cute 85 lb King's Castle 2 kitten, I wasn't ready for a 2nd helping and I didn't want to take up too much of the Thai girl's working time in the bar. So when she began broaching the subject of where I was staying and how much she would like to go back to my hotel and take care of me, I told her I could not tonight. She politely understood my position, so I told her I liked her and asked if she was planning to come back to Spasso Saturday night. She said yes and then she gave me her cell number so we could set something up at a later date. Again, she seemed like a very nice, socially graceful, attractive Thai girl. I speculate she is between 27 and 33 years old. Tonight, however, I will probably repeat with my little 20 year old Patpong 1 girl rather than do this sexy Thai Spasso girl, but you never know what's going to happen until it happens. This is Bangkok.

Uncle Volodya, I like Spasso and usually go there one or two times per one of my 4 to 5 week BKK visits. But it reminds me of far better 5 star hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's at the Mulia in Jakarta, where I will be heading soon, and Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore. CJ's is amazing with maybe 3 or 4 times as many girls especially on Wednesday ladies night and the weekend and the girls are younger and for the most part better looking IMHO. Brix is the classiest FL hotel pick up bar I know of featuring amazingly good looking and very expensive import talent from all over Asia and even Russia (the real Russia) LOL.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 09:44
May I ask how old she is? Spasso has so some great looking talent, but I always find them to be above 30. I like them to be 20-25 years old.You may ask. But the age of these Thai girls is notoriously hard to assess. And I implemented a "don't ask, don't tell" policy with her on this topic. I did not really care to find out how many decades younger than me she was.

She looks like she is in the gap between the two ranges that you mentioned, but closer to 30+ than to 20-25. So if you want a definite number that would be 29. Take it as an educated guess with an error margin.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 10:40
Imagination.

Yeh the black girls on the Sukhumwit street tug at my sleeve too. Strange it did not make me feel like Brad Pitt.Count on my discretion, I won't tell Nina that you just put her in the same class as a black streetwalker.



So Spasso girl costs 5 K for ST (4 K + 1 K tip). Similar to Escort but at least you get to meet her and evaluate chemistry first.
Good summary, I could not have said it any better. This is the correct comparison.



Was she so stunning to be worth it?
Not really. You don't pay extra just for looks. You pay for testing the chemistry, reviewing as many girls as you want, a classy dress, her commitment to please, and her lack of jadedness.


If not on a budget, price doesn't matter.Climax is better value-for-money ratio than Spasso, but it's also more work, and I'm a lazy bastard. I like shooting fish in a barrel. I would have gone to Climax, but it was just too early.


Is there a danger the girl won't look so good when she gets naked back at your Hotel?Yes there is, but compared to the danger that the girl from the go-go bar will be a starfish, this is more manageable.

Experienced mongers have X-ray eyes that detect the bra padding, the body-mass index, and the hip-to-weight ratio with near-millimetric accuracy. And there's plenty of light at Spasso, unlike some of the other venues. There's a reason why: Spasso like to keep up the quality - otherwise it's just way too easy for the least scrupulous girls to game the system. I've seen this happen in other countries and eventually the place just dies down.

Blanquiceleste
04-01-17, 11:00
Brix is the classiest FL hotel pick up bar I know of featuring amazingly good looking and very expensive import talent from all over Asia and even Russia (the real Russia) LOL.I agree with you about Brix and the talent they have on display. Quite clearly they have the best live band performing every night. But it's too rich and pricey for my blood. A drink costs $25. Girls quote opening prices of $500 for ST, sometime upwards. Incredible! And quite a few of those ladies, specially from Vietnam and Philippines head down to Orchard Tower after 3 am when Brix shuts. And the prices tumble too.

I had been to Brix nearly 2 months back with a colleague who was visiting from New York. At around 10.30 pm the place was buzzing with talent. I was solicited by a few beauties but I was simply not in the mood. My colleague who was staying at the Hyatt found himself a Mongolian takeaway for $400. Next morning he gave a glowing report too.

Guessing about Natty's taste in women and places from his posts, I can see why he likes Brix so much.

Blanquiceleste
04-01-17, 11:03
Experienced mongers have X-ray eyes that detect the bra padding, the body-mass index, and the hip-to-weight ratio with near-millimetric accuracy. Let's give it up for Eric Swiss. Best comment I have seen all week.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 11:30
Thanks for the report Eric.

I've only been to Spasso once and I found the girls to be mediocre looking an it to be very dark there. I think I went on a Tuesday.Dear Uncle,

Thank you for the response, and for the challenging questions.

I guess if you must try again, maybe Friday would be better. Thursday could be good too. Saturday could just be way too hectic, so only do it if you like this uncontrollable intensity.



In any case once visit is probably not enough to make a definitive decision about a place. And I am still kind of curious about Spasso.

I know you are an experienced Monger and have enjoyed your reports about picking up girls at Ibar. So I ask you: how, in your opinion, does the quality of the girls compare?

Thanks again for your report and stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.The girls at Spasso are more vetted. There's a bouncer at the door who knows all of them. He nodded intensely to my girl as we went out together in order to remember her face, and let her know that he knew who she was. The girls don't mess up, they're conscientious: one strike and they're out. It's not quite as conveyor-belt as a go-go bar because the girls can come and go whenever they please, but the management wants clean girls and fully satisfied customers.

At I-Bar it's a bit all over the place. You get girls who finish their shift and didn't meet their target so they want to make a quick buck and finish the day on a high note. You get gaggles of girls who hang out together, on the off-chance that one of them gets laid for money, sometimes they get drunk and behave unpredictably.

Conclusion: When it goes well at the I-Bar, it is as good as Spasso. At Spasso you pay extra because the girls are more worried about getting shut out by bad feedback. And they dress nicer. And they speak better English. And they are smarter. And the music is better. But these are just details.

Uncle Volodya
04-01-17, 11:33
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Uncle Volodya, I like Spasso and usually go there one or two times per one of my 4 to 5 week BKK visits. But it reminds me of far better 5 star hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's at the Mulia in Jakarta, where I will be heading soon, and Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore. CJ's is amazing with maybe 3 or 4 times as many girls especially on Wednesday ladies night and the weekend and the girls are younger and for the most part better looking IMHO. Brix is the classiest FL hotel pick up bar I know of featuring amazingly good looking and very expensive import talent from all over Asia and even Russia (the real Russia) LOL.You need to make it over to Manhattan in Shanghai one of these days. They had the hottest Vietnamese girls I had ever seen when I was last there in November 2014. Even better than in Saigon!

Prices are steep. About $150/200 USD ST 2 hrs if I recall. But the girls were just amazing looking. And you can sample the goods in the club too. After you've bought the girls a drink she will engage you with a lot of heavy petting and making out in order to seal the deal and get you to take her back to the hotel. It can be a fun night our even if you don't take anyone home.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 11:41
Uncle Volodya, I like Spasso and usually go there one or two times per one of my 4 to 5 week BKK visits. But it reminds me of far better 5 star hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's at the Mulia in Jakarta, where I will be heading soon, and Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore. CJ's is amazing with maybe 3 or 4 times as many girls especially on Wednesday ladies night and the weekend and the girls are younger and for the most part better looking IMHO. Brix is the classiest FL hotel pick up bar I know of featuring amazingly good looking and very expensive import talent from all over Asia and even Russia (the real Russia) LOL.The comparison between Spasso in Bangkok and the Brix in Singapore is most pertinent. I have experienced it myself, and heard it independently from other sources not on this board.

Uncle Volodya
04-01-17, 11:43
Dear Uncle,

Conclusion: When it goes well at the I-Bar, it is as good as Spasso. At Spasso you pay extra because the girls are more worried about bad feedback. And theys dress nicer. And they speak better English. And they are smarter. But these are just details.Thanks Eric. Yes it is like comparing Apples and Oranges in many ways. But what I really meant to ask was about the girls' looks. I found Spasso girls to be a tad too old and not as slim. And it was very dark in there. I was talking to one black girl and I swear I couldn't even make out her features.

It takes some work to sort out the wheat form the chaff at Ibar for sure. But I've found that if you invest some time and patience you can really find some great girls with nice personality and very GFE. My MO for my trip (which last form 10 to 30 days) is to find a girl or two at Ibar that will be my steady (ies) during the trip (and maybe meet up with her next trip as well) while still playing the field and looking for the next good thing. 555.

For may I have two steadies lined up: an absolute doll that I will hang out with in BKK for a few days (she lives there and she's more of a semi pro) and a hot 30 year old FL that is based in Pattaya. I met both at Ibar / Insomnia. I will also play the field a bit at Spasso, Ibar, Gogos, Soi 6, etc when I can get away form these two lovelies.

Wheels up in 28 days and I am already salivating!

PerezPerez
04-01-17, 11:55
After going through Syz's recommendation went to mango for Prae but she is not working today. Went back to Sw and took Bonus. She has a very good figure, slim and in complete shape according to my taste, good GFE, DFK, rimming and BBBJ, overall satisfied. She has no baby and only 22 from Issan. Tan skin and good in bed, if you want Prae she is not for you. I was not expecting good figure, good attitude and reasonable good service today, but got it. Tipped her to which she was happy. She said sky is closed for a while because of the illness of the bosses sister or so and guitar is also at Sw now. I can recommend her if looking for GFE with a petite tan young girl without baby. Next will be some soapy, report coming soon.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 11:58
Thanks Eric. Yes it is like comparing Apples and Oranges in many ways. But what I really meant to ask was about the girls' looks. I found Spasso girls to be a tad too old and not as slim. And it was very dark in there. I was talking to one black girl and I swear I couldn't even make out her features.I've had mixed reports about looks at Spasso. Some of my friends said they came out with a stunner. Probably if you go all around the bar looking at every single girl and figuring out which one is the best looker she's going to be quite hot. That's not quite what I did. But maybe I should, and maybe I could, because they're all advertising themselves for rent. The average is good but to find a stunner needs a bit of working the crowd.


It takes some work to sort out the wheat form the chaff at Ibar for sure. But I've found that if you invest some time and patience you can really find some great girls with nice personality and very GFE. My MO for my trip (which last form 10 to 30 days) is to find a girl or two at Ibar that will be my steady (ies) during the trip (and maybe meet up with her next trip as well) while still playing the field and looking for the next good thing. 555.

For may I have two steadies lined up: an absolute doll that I will hang out with in BKK for a few days (she lives there and she's more of a semi pro) and a hot 30 year old FL that is based in Pattaya. I met both at Ibar / Insomnia. I will also play the field a bit at Spasso, Ibar, Gogos, Soi 6, etc when I can get away form these two lovelies.
stunner.
Wheels up in 28 days and I am already salivating!If you want to invest time and patience to sort out the wheat from the chaff, then Climax is much better than Spasso. There are even normal girls there, and girls that can fall in love with you (and you with them) for a week. If you like the Ibar in Pattaya, then Climax post 2 am is the best BKK equivalent IMHO.

Eric Swiss
04-01-17, 12:03
Let's give it up for Eric Swiss. Best comment I have seen all week.Thanks Mate. Now let's just list what Working Girls have a mllimetric eye for? I'll start with the thickness of our wallet. But everybody feel free to chime in!

MagicSheep74
04-01-17, 14:39
I've had mixed reports about looks at Spasso. Some of my friends said they came out with a stunner. Probably if you go all around the bar looking at every single girl and figuring out which one is the best looker she's going to be quite hot. That's not quite what I did. But maybe I should, and maybe I could, because they're all advertising themselves for rent. The average is good but to find a stunner needs a bit of working the crowd.

If you want to invest time and patience to sort out the wheat from the chaff, then Climax is much better than Spasso. There are even normal girls there, and girls that can fall in love with you (and you with them) for a week. If you like the Ibar in Pattaya, then Climax post 2 am is the best BKK equivalent IMHO.My late 2016 - 7 Day Bangkok Trip revolved around me going to Lord's MP, Climax, Gogo's Soi Cowboy, and on 2 occasions Spasso. In my opinion the 2 best looking from the 7 days holiday were from Spasso.

Could be just luck, but the place just seems to suit my tastes and requirements more often than not. Both the Spasso girls, one Viet and one Thai cost 5000 TB overnight. Which considering there quality looks I felt was very reasonable.

In fact the Thai girl was so hot in my eyes, a true 9/10 . I met her the last 3 nights of my holiday, she was a complete delight. Beautiful Hair, Skin, Face, Body and spoke excellent english.

Actually, now I think about it, I need to get my arse back to Thailand ASAP. LOL.

Ventolin42
04-01-17, 20:16
I just arrived in Bangkok. After an endless wait at immigration I managed to get to my hotel near Nana at 10 pm, just the right time for hunting. Too tired for a nightclub today so I went to soi 4 to get a quick fuck. I couldn't wait as my last visit was already six months ago. Sat down in the stumble in bar right across the street at the Nana hotel sign to take a look at the waiting freelancers. Just when my drink came I spotted a really sexy girl, so I hurried up but I was not fast enough, she got taken within 5 minutes. However a few minutes later I spotted another nice girl, very slim and cute, maybe an 8, and this time I was quick enough. I wasn't in the mood for bargaining so I accepted her 1.5 k offer and off we went.

When she took off her clothes in the hotel I was pretty happy with my choice, great body despite some slight baby damage. Her english was not very good, so the communication was quite limited. She said she was 23 and from Udon Thani but that was about it with the small talk. She started with a blowjob, not bad but not great either. Then I told her to ride me cowgirl-style, which she did. Seeing her great body made me cum pretty quickly, so I offered her a 500 thb tip for a second shot. She accepted, maybe she thought the second shot will be as quick as the first one. Well, not quite. So I banged her for half an hour in different positions. She was so-la-la, not a starfish but not that enthusiastic either. However it was a nice fuck. After she left I went for food and on my way back to the hotel I have seen her at the car-park sign again, looking for another customer. Would I repeat? No, for this the performance just wasn't good enough. There are just too many other pretty girls in Bangkok.

So I am going to sleep now, I have to be fit tomorrow because I already have an appointment with an escort girl tomorrow afternoon. Will report.

Blanquiceleste
04-02-17, 02:12
Thanks Mate. Now let's just list what Working Girls have a mllimetric eye for? I'll start with the thickness of our wallet. But everybody feel free to chime in!These may be just details, but I do think girls have an eye for men who can't hold their drinks, men who might be abusive and violent, men who might refuse to pay after the deed, etc. But the most important measure is expertly listed by you.

A girl from iBar once told me a story. She left the bar with a guy who promised her 3000 LT. They ducked into a restaurant to eat. The dude apparently called food for himself and left the girl to make her choice. After eating, he simply sprung cash for his own meal and asked the girl to pay up for hers. She paid and simply left without any further discussion. Always wonder where do such low lives come from?

Smoothy
04-02-17, 04:23
CJ's is amazing with maybe 3 or 4 times as many girls especially on Wednesday ladies night and the weekend and the girls are younger and for the most part better looking IMHO. Depends on the night. I was there last Saturday night and it was an absolute sausage fest. The guys outnumbered the girls 4 to 1. I left and went elsewhere.

SteveOak
04-02-17, 04:27
If you like gogo bars at all, I would suggest Billboard (Nana Plaza), for cute little natural tit topless girls in the sudsy bath, also try its sister bar Butterflies (was Jailbirdz), and the Crazy House bar in Soi 23 very near to Cowboy for totally nude spinners (lots of bare pussy to see). My favourite little girl there would be sexy tan skinned Jane No. 4 only just over 40 kilos, or maybe less. Did not weigh her. LOL Great on the bed with rimming, but very small tits though.

You specs only vary from mine in that I take taller girls as well, being a relatively tall guy.

Enjoy! These places should be exciting for you, and the most relevant bars.

Are there any massage places full of spinners? I doubt it. Nothing comes to mind immediately.Thanks for the info!

Fortunately I have a finely calibrated eye so tape measures and scales are not needed. I usually recognize what I am looking at before I am aware that I am looking at it. LOL My eyes just find them.

Friday night was quite good. I found a slender girl with a very pretty face. She was Laotian and very accommodating, very sweet and attentive. Great BJ, anal and CIM. So last night was a scouting night.

I checked out Billboard and found one so tiny that I could almost get my hands around her waist. Great firm little body but didn't quite pass the face test.

I ventured on to Crazy House. On the first floor all of the girls were above the height specification but a few had firm little bodies so I bought them a drink to chat and have a feel. All of the spinners it seems we're on the second floor but none passed the 'looks' spec. I will have to look again for No 4.

I headed up the stairs to the 3rd floor and one of the employees yelled something at me, I presumed not to go up there. As I was coming back down I noticed an unwrapped but unused condom on a stair step. So what happens on the 3rd floor now? I can only guess.

I met a guy from Japan at CH. He did not believe me that I live in China. Guess I don't look the part. LOL.

I ran into him again out on the street when I was headed back to my hotel. He was headed to Thermae and told me he had not been there before so I showed him where it was and gave him the tour and showed him the ropes. He found a girl to his liking and headed off. We exchanged WeChat info I expect to receive a report from him.

Syzygies
04-02-17, 06:11
In Pat Pong last night. Just 10.40 PM checked out Black Pagoda on 3rd floor. It is a small club. Seems very small compared to passage way to get there.

I lasted in there standing for about 10 to 15 seconds. Girls overly covered wearing shirts and faces not very pretty at all. Very disappointing. I was expecting a lot more. I believe they used to have some hotties. Not any more or they all left early.

Had a quick look in Star of light. Dingy grimy walls club very small. However girls mostly too fat. No spinners in sight. One girl possibly acceptable body size and face. Prices are 700 BBBJ and 1 K for sex in the bar. Did not ask BF. Lady drink 150. My drink cheaper. If take FS option probably won't get more than 20 minutes, unless take away to ST hotel but for take away I would rather have a slim pretty girl. So no girl was really making me desperate to get her knickers off.

The highlight of the evening was King's Castle 2 downstairs with mix of Coyote and gogo girls but hard to tell the difference. All rather over dressed with multi layers covering tits. No much silicone detected. Met with a fellow ISG buddy there who already had picked a girl out.

BFs start at 800 and have 4 levels up to girls from modelling agency could have BF of 1800. Ouch. For my taste the 800 girls are probably just as good. Several quite pretty faces making the standard quite comparible to Twisters.

One girl especially appealed looking like a young Barbara Bach with reddish hair but small tits. Lovely legs and ass and tiny cute natural nose. Northern Thailand girl.

Called her for a drink. After told her my name she remembered me. I BFed her once for a really good time in Twisters. Today was her first day in KC2. I still have her LINE contact. Her look had changed slightly with different colour hair but my taste was consistent to pick her out of the group a 2nd time. Most bars in Pat Pong have been disappointing, however I could return here, especially for this girl who makes a passionate GFE and is very pretty for my taste.

I still slightly prefer Twisters in Nana as girls are less covered up relatively although not nude. Standard of looks in Twisters overall maybe slightly higher. Hard to be sure with just the one visit here. Its good to find another option.

Axiata
04-02-17, 06:30
My late 2016 - 7 Day Bangkok Trip revolved around me going to Lord's MP, Climax, Gogo's Soi Cowboy, and on 2 occasions Spasso. In my opinion the 2 best looking from the 7 days holiday were from Spasso.

Could be just luck, but the place just seems to suit my tastes and requirements more often than not. Both the Spasso girls, one Viet and one Thai cost 5000 TB overnight. Which considering there quality looks I felt was very reasonable.

In fact the Thai girl was so hot in my eyes, a true 9/10 . I met her the last 3 nights of my holiday, she was a complete delight. Beautiful Hair, Skin, Face, Body and spoke excellent english.

Actually, now I think about it, I need to get my arse back to Thailand ASAP. LOL.Would tend to agree with Spasso having good lookers and they float over to Mixx if no punter buys. I found Mixx had just as many lookers there. Cost can be tricky but 5 k for a looker with a good body who also stays for a morning session is good.

Climax has been a good hunting ground also, although just having come back for Pattaya and visiting iBar, I think ibar has better talent and more of it.

Of course beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.

Happy Hunting.

Titto
04-02-17, 07:34
Thank you very much. Absolutely fantastic help. Appreciate it.

Yes, this would suite me. I will try to handle at least 4 if not 5. I understand the risk with CL.

Waiting for some good fun in BKK.

I would appreciate if you can refer me some good soapies in Soi 7/1 or Soi 2.


After your business tour, here is how you can spend your remaining extra 2 days as you stated.

I understand the way you are thinking but you may run into a few surprises by booking ladies from CL. They can be unreliable and dodgy at times. If you want a good itinerary, I would suggest something like the following:

Morning: sometime between 11:00-13:00 visit an oily for a 2 hour session.

Afternoon: After grab a good lunch to recharge your batteries and head to a Sopie massage or Nuru on Ratchada, Soi 7/1, or Soi 2.

Evening: Have a good dinner again to recharge your batteries a second time and then head over to Nana Plaza. Visit one of the many go go bars and choose a lady for some ST Action in one of the ST hotels nearby.

Syzygies
04-02-17, 07:39
Count on my discretion, I won't tell Nina that you just put her in the same class as a black streetwalker.

Good summary, I could not have said it any better. This is the correct comparison.

Not really. You don't pay extra just for looks. You pay for testing the chemistry, reviewing as many girls as you want, a classy dress, her commitment to please, and her lack of jadedness.

Climax is better value-for-money ratio than Spasso, but it's also more work, and I'm a lazy bastard. I like shooting fish in a barrel. I would have gone to Climax, but it was just too early.

Yes there is, but compared to the danger that the girl from the go-go bar will be a starfish, this is more manageable.

Experienced mongers have X-ray eyes that detect the bra padding, the body-mass index, and the hip-to-weight ratio with near-millimetric accuracy. And there's plenty of light at Spasso, unlike some of the other venues. There's a reason why: Spasso like to keep up the quality - otherwise it's just way too easy for the least scrupulous girls to game the system. I've seen this happen in other countries and eventually the place just dies down.I don't see it as a positive when a hooker grabs my arm. O.k. At least means she is not avoiding me. I like to be the one choosing. Prefer shyer girls.

I probably don't have the xray eyes. I find it very hard to tell how good heavily covered tits are without touching. Coyote girl tits are always a bit mystery. Which is why I hardly take them.

I used to get star fish in bars sometimes, but very few lately since I guess my girl evaluation skills have improved. Key is not to pull the trigger too fast.

There is the danger of dick scared girls, in bars and even more so in Soapies because they are too used to Thai customers. I guess this should be less of a danger if most Spasso customers are Farangs? Is that the case or are there a lot of Japanese and Korean customers?

I have learned to choose a type of girl unlikely to be chosen by the Asian customers. They usually are accustomed to and like Farangs. Even can find some girls willing to say they like dick a lot. Not every pussy feels as great for me. That is somewhat luck, just how nice the fit is. However a relaxed girl really into it helps a lot.

So I gather you are saying the performance success rate in Spasso is very high. For my case, I am always willing to repeat another time if a girl was good enough. No repeat means she wasn't quite good enough or value for money.

I have not had any no repeat bargirls recently, indicating I must be getting a bit lucky for the relatively few new ones tried ir very extended selection process helps. I have had some no repeat MP girls in last year or so though. Chosen quickly is the likely problem without opportunity to check chemistry.

Freelancers tried from Thermae or the street have all been disappointing to soso bar one girl. So only one repeated. So for me, freelancers maybe the cheapest option but least likely to repeat.

I can see a club like Spasso is a much better option than blindly taking an escort. I just need to borrow your xray glasses to check out the tits and ass properly or hope the dress is scanty and revealing.

SteveOak
04-02-17, 07:45
Occasionally a girl that I meet on WeChat and want to meet will ask me the name of the hotel I am staying in as well as the room number and my name. What's up with this? Is it a scam?

Thanks,

Steve.

Titto
04-02-17, 07:47
Thank you Pearl for your help. Yeah, I am also getting similar views on CL. Will try to avoid that.


I would be reluctant to trust CL ads for P4P.

I'd suggest rather an escort option based on the reviews in the ISG escort thread.

Uncle Volodya
04-02-17, 13:04
Would tend to agree with Spasso having good lookers and they float over to Mixx if no punter buys. I found Mixx had just as many lookers there. Cost can be tricky but 5 k for a looker with a good body who also stays for a morning session is good.

Climax has been a good hunting ground also, although just having come back for Pattaya and visiting iBar, I think ibar has better talent and more of it.

Of course beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.

Happy Hunting.That has been my general impression too RE: Spasso vs Mixx and Ibar.

Mumbai Guy
04-02-17, 17:24
Occasionally a girl that I meet on WeChat and want to meet will ask me the name of the hotel I am staying in as well as the room number and my name. What's up with this? Is it a scam?

Thanks,

Steve.Its not a scam. Usually girls who want to meet will ask info about the hotel and room number and the name under which the room is booked. They ring up the hotel and talk to you just to confirm that someone is not playing games with her. Whenever I fix a meeting with a girl after chatting up on the net, quite a few girls ring up and talk to me before starting from their place to come and meet me. Maybe they have bad experiences in the past. There are a lot of weird guys around.

Syzygies
04-02-17, 17:24
A prime function of girls in a gogo bar is to sell drinks. A girl typically gets about 50 Baht commission from a drink maybe slightly more in some bars. If a lady drink is high like 200 Baht in some bars, the girl still may only receive 50 Baht.

In some bars ping pong balls are sold to customers. Ladies catching balls gets half ball fee and house gets half.

Interestingly in Kings Castle 2, Pat Pong, it seemed like there is no salary and girls get 600 Baht per night for dancing. Some higher level may get more. The most effective way to get money to a girl rather than the house is a cash tip, however girls are expected to sell a reasonable number of drinks.

In Crazy House and other bars, sometimes a girl will ask to be barfined in order to go home early. This maybe a story since I don't understand why the girl showed up at all if she did not want to work. Having been barfined ostensibly to go home, the girl probably in fact does something else, like keep working or party with friends or even possible go meet some guy who doesn't want to pay a barfine. I am just speculating here, since I don't really understand what makes the most sense. So far no girl has let me in on all the devious secrets in relation to this one. However I am not too trusting rather suspicious. If I believed the girl was genuinely sick or lacking sleep, maybe she would go home.

Member #4591
04-02-17, 17:36
Occasionally a girl that I meet on WeChat and want to meet will ask me the name of the hotel I am staying in as well as the room number and my name. What's up with this? Is it a scam?

Thanks,

Steve.50% of the time, it is a scam. They will bring a fake policemen to extort money from you. The other half of the time, they only want to confirm your location so they don't waste time travelling for nothing. Whenever I make a plan with a we chat girl, I always insist to meet up in a bar, restaurant, or shopping mall. Then we go back to my room together. If the lady refuses this, then I know it is a scam. Other red flags from we chat girls are asking for deposits upfront or even insisting to be paid upfront in your room. Never do this this. The most you should do is put the agreed upon amount on the table in plain site so the lady knows you have the money, but never hand it over until the agreed upon session is complete. In my experience, I have never had a good session with any lady who has asked to be paid upfront. Even if they agree for me to leave the money on the table or even if they agree to accept the money after the session is finished. Now I make it my rule that if any lady asks me for any money upfront, I send her packing with taxi money and head back out to find a different girl. I'd honestly rather decline a bad session than waste my money on a bad encounter.

Banana Boi
04-02-17, 17:37
In Crazy House and other bars, sometimes a girl will ask to be barfined in order to go home early. This maybe a story since I don't understand why the girl showed up at all if she did not want to work. Having been barfined ostensibly to go home, Unless CH works differently than any gogo bar I know a girl needs to pay her own barfine if she doesn't show up for work when she is on schedule. In some other bars the BF fee goes against their drink quota.

HorseTrader
04-02-17, 18:08
Occasionally a girl that I meet on WeChat and want to meet will ask me the name of the hotel I am staying in as well as the room number and my name. What's up with this? Is it a scam?

Thanks,

Steve.Wechat girls can be freelancers, massage girls, scam artists, girls trying to meet a friend to hang out with, or a girl looking for a sugar daddy. I've used a 3-part screening before going to my hotel. First, ask if they are a ladyboy. Second, move to video chat. Third, meet in a public location. A surprising number fail the first screening. I had one refuse video chat, so I assumed either fake pictures or another scam. I would never give my real name or hotel room number to a wechat girl before meeting her.

In my limited 3-week Thailand visit I had good success with wechat, one girl being the best of the trip.

SteveOak
04-02-17, 18:54
I searched on for a bona (er) fide spinner. This landed me at Butterfly. There were two shifts of girls for the stages, about 10 for each of the two stages going so 40 or so girls dancing. There were only about 20 guys so it worked pretty well, except that there was only one girl I considered attractive (4' 10", 80 lbs, great ass) but she already had an admirer. #232 I think, if you are interested. I didn't see another girl in the place that was even a 6.

After her shift on stage she went right to him, talked for a bit and then did some bumping and grinding. Half way through her next shift on stage he waved good by and left. Go figure.

We had been making eye contact so when she got off stage she drifted my way and when she looked at me I waved her in. She glided over and curled up next to me like she had been with me for years. I too less than a minute for her to start fondling me. Very nice.

I bought her two drinks before she went back on stage. When she finished the second shift she came straight back and wrapped herself around me. We talked shop for a minute. She asked for 3,000. A bit high for a Sunday night but not out of line. I tend to either be pretty much accepting of their number, unless it is out of line, and negotiate the extras I like.

I do have one proclivity that I can usually find a girl to accommodate but she would not. She kept trying to get me to find her out and I kept trying to get to to accommodate me but it was just not going to happen. Next time she was I stage, I waved goodbye and left.

I wandered down Sukhumvit and into Thermae, my backup spot. If I haven't found a girl somewhere else I can usually find a girl there that meets my minimum standards for looks and will accommodate me as well. It was a pretty good night as only 2 girls refused to talk to me, 7 quoted me a price for short time but non would accommodate me. I was hitting only ones that were very good or better so that is about average.

I was about to make another round when everyone started scrambling for the door like a fire drill. First a wave toward the back door, then another wave toward the front door. I fell in and joined the evacuation. Never did find out why it happened but I was not going to stick around and get caught in something. I am sure someone here will hear that scoop and post it.

As luck would have it the girl on the step in front of me was still shorter than me, even though she was on the next step. I followed her and her friend to the sidewalk. When it looked though there was no danger from a raid or something, I said Hello, and asked for a price. She quoted 2,500 and was agreeable to accommodating me. Nice!

For those wondering how good my eyeball scale is, I weighed her in the hotel room. 40.12 kilos. I will try harder next time. LOL And she was under 1.5 meters tall too.

Syzygies
04-03-17, 01:50
Unless CH works differently than any gogo bar I know a girl needs to pay her own barfine if she doesn't show up for work when she is on schedule. In some other bars the BF fee goes against their drink quota.Yes if girl is on monthly salary and works regularly this applies. Some girls hardly have showed up and have lost their monthly salary if they ever had one.

WildHawk
04-03-17, 02:01
While this is perhaps one of the least-shaky videos from inside Thermae, I'm not much of a fan of this particular auteur, and his penchant for videotaping our negotiations to put up for all the world to see.

But at about 4:30 to 5:20 (best shot at 4:46) good memories are conjured up. She's in cutoff jeans, striped low-cut shirt (the one toward the right, on the left side of the room). Lovely smile, delicious girl who was eager to please. (I had picked her up outside Thermae after 3 am) If you should encounter, do enjoy, be extra nice to her.

And, yes, she does farang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NczOig0hcM

Syzygies
04-03-17, 05:14
While this is perhaps one of the least-shaky videos from inside Thermae, I'm not much of a fan of this particular auteur, and his penchant for videotaping our negotiations to put up for all the world to see.

But at about 4:30 to 5:20 (best shot at 4:46) good memories are conjured up. She's in cutoff jeans, striped low-cut shirt (the one toward the right, on the left side of the room). Lovely smile, delicious girl who was eager to please. (I had picked her up outside Thermae after 3 am) If you should encounter, do enjoy, be extra nice to her.

And, yes, she does farang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NczOig0hcMIt does show tha variation between girls dressed to show their figure and those dressed to hide the figure completely. Cut off jeans shorts is good in this situation.

The video is a bit boring of course, so just watch the first few minutes is enough. Author could have editted it down to much shorter. The part I liked was the very start with girl in dress outside. I wanted to see her face better. Looked interesting maybe.

Shows mongers can be caught on film in crowded places. Danger. A girl on Soi 4 that I know well appeared in you tube in a similar way. Watch out for Asian guys (mostly) carrying anything strange that could have a hidden camera.

At least it is a video. Some guys post a video comprised of still shots, zooming in and out, with loud music. That is far too gimmicky for me.

Goatscrot
04-03-17, 06:09
I searched on for a bona (er) fide spinner. This landed me at Butterfly. There were two shifts of girls for the stages, about 10 for each of the two stages going so 40 or so girls dancing. There were only about 20 guys so it worked pretty well, except that there was only one girl I considered attractive (4' 10", 80 lbs, great ass) but she already had an admirer. #232 I think, if you are interested. I didn't see another girl in the place that was even a 6.

After her shift on stage she went right to him, talked for a bit and then did some bumping and grinding. Half way through her next shift on stage he waved good by and left. Go figure.

We had been making eye contact so when she got off stage she drifted my way and when she looked at me I waved her in. She glided over and curled up next to me like she had been with me for years. I too less than a minute for her to start fondling me. Very nice.

I bought her two drinks before she went back on stage. When she finished the second shift she came straight back and wrapped herself around me. We talked shop for a minute. She asked for 3,000. A bit high for a Sunday night but not out of line. I tend to either be pretty much accepting of their number, unless it is out of line, and negotiate the extras I like.

I do have one proclivity that I can usually find a girl to accommodate but she would not. She kept trying to get me to find her out and I kept trying to get to to accommodate me but it was just not going to happen. Next time she was I stage, I waved goodbye and left.

I wandered down Sukhumvit and into Thermae, my backup spot. If I haven't found a girl somewhere else I can usually find a girl there that meets my minimum standards for looks and will accommodate me as well. It was a pretty good night as only 2 girls refused to talk to me, 7 quoted me a price for short time but non would accommodate me. I was hitting only ones that were very good or better so that is about average.

I was about to make another round when everyone started scrambling for the door like a fire drill. First a wave toward the back door, then another wave toward the front door. I fell in and joined the evacuation. Never did find out why it happened but I was not going to stick around and get caught in something. I am sure someone here will hear that scoop and post it.

As luck would have it the girl on the step in front of me was still shorter than me, even though she was on the next step. I followed her and her friend to the sidewalk. When it looked though there was no danger from a raid or something, I said Hello, and asked for a price. She quoted 2,500 and was agreeable to accommodating me. Nice!

For those wondering how good my eyeball scale is, I weighed her in the hotel room. 40.12 kilos. I will try harder next time. LOL And she was under 1.5 meters tall too.What are your requirements for "accommodation?

Syzygies
04-03-17, 06:23
I asked the pretty young Issan single mother girl aged 21, why she had a baby so quick. Still at school studying. Would have been 19 when pregnant.

She said, that if a girl waits till age 30, might be very difficult to have a baby. She had a baby by see section so pussy still tight but scar. Has to be hooker now to support baby, sister, and sister's baby, and schooling not finished.

Amazing mess girls get into with Thai boys that disappear. Why rhey can't sensibly use borth control is a mystery but I blame it on poor education and social values. High percenange of hookers are single mothers. Most of the rest have pimps or are drug users, I guess. Not many sensible girls just paying for education and staying out of trouble.

Eric Swiss
04-03-17, 10:16
I don't see it as a positive when a hooker grabs my arm. O.k. At least means she is not avoiding me. I like to be the one choosing. Prefer shyer girls.I'm pretty shy myself, so if the girl is shy too, the probability that we don't end up together goes sky-high. It's more a matter of personality.


I probably don't have the xray eyes. I find it very hard to tell how good heavily covered tits are without touching. Coyote girl tits are always a bit mystery. Which is why I hardly take them.I grope and fondle quite a bit. I'm pretty tolerant about tit sizes, so my number one goal is to make sure she's not fat, and my roving hands have yet to fail me on that front.


I used to get star fish in bars sometimes, but very few lately since I guess my girl evaluation skills have improved. Key is not to pull the trigger too fast.Yes, that's definitely the key. We should have a 10-minute rule: never pull a girl out of a bar unless you've been with her at least 10 minutes.


There is the danger of dick scared girls, in bars and even more so in Soapies because they are too used to Thai customers. I guess this should be less of a danger if most Spasso customers are Farangs? Is that the case or are there a lot of Japanese and Korean customers?I saw mostly Farangs at Spasso.


I can see a club like Spasso is a much better option than blindly taking an escort.I've never done escorts in Bangkok but I agree with your conclusion.

Syzygies
04-03-17, 12:01
I'm pretty shy myself, so if the girl is shy too, the probability that we don't end up together goes sky-high. It's more a matter of personality.

Yes, that's definitely the key. We should have a 10-minute rule: never pull a girl out of a bar unless you've been with her at least 10 minutes.
I am not shy about approaching hookers. Maybe shy and about touching the tits unless I am quite sure will be welcome. I can certainly compensate for very shy girls, without aggressively scaring them too much usually. Then you try to get 2 or 3 tequilas into them, to liven them up a bit. LOL

I probably extend your 10 minute rule to 60 minutes in a gogo bar most times, unless I am scared that she is so gorgeous she will be quickly BFed by somebody else. That means normally she sits with me at least two breaks between dancing 20 min sets before I decide. Have been known to break the rule but not that often. Plenty of girls did not get BFed the first time met them, but put it off to a subsequent meeting. That is how careful I started to become about chemistry going well. If girl tries to rush me, I tend to back off.

Only certain very pretty girls have caused me to break the 60 rule at Crazy House, being Nat (also had amazing tits), Donut stunning, and May-Lee very pretty. Fortunately by luck both Nat and Donut were really good, and while May-lee was too timid first time, a few drinks rectified that the 2nd time, making her become much more passionate and into it (lucky I tried again). I may have forgotten some more unfortunate rushed choices in the past.

Ventolin42
04-03-17, 13:16
I went to Climaxx yesterday at about 1:30 am To have a few drinks, with the clear intention not to take a girl because I had to recover between two escort sessions on Sunday and Monday. I should have known better, never make plans when you are in Bangkok.

I had just entered the club and was waiting for the waitress to bring me my first drink as I saw a very cute girl in a belly top dancing next to me. I thought she was about 23 (turned out to be 25), maybe 40 kg with a very cute face. I would rate her a 9 BTW. I was just saying to myself "stay strong, you have other plans" when another girl (turned out to be her older sister) purposely pushed her from behind so that we crashed right into each other. The older girl knew that her sister was a little bit shy so she decided to further the cause a little bit. Due to the crash we had to talk to each other, started dancing together and I immediately knew I wasn't strong enough to stick to my plan and had to take her home. She told me her name was Noi, from Laos. I bought a few drinks for her and me and also one for her sister (2 K including tips), and we stayed until 3:30.

It turned out that she had a somewhat strange humor, when we were driving through soi 4 we saw a lot of leftover ladyboys she asked "do you like ladyboy? Because I am ladyboy". After the first shock evaporated I got she was joking (or maybe testing me), because no way that cute little thingy was a ladyboy. Back in the hotel I put on some music and she was dancing for me on the furniture, jumped from the bed to the table like a little monkey. Damn was that sexy, although I had fears she would fall as she was pretty drunk. However when she lied down on the bed (in full clothing) she fell asleep pretty quickly, so I knew that was it for the night, no shot fired. The reward came when we woke up at 11 am, very nice GFE, felt like genuine affection (or oscar-ripe acting, but I don't think so). I don't think you can buy that from a Soi 4 freelancer. She had to leave for her day job in a restaurant shortly after (which I was happy about as I already had an appointment with Bell from Bangkogoldenescort for 2 pm). Before she left I asked her about her line ID and gave her 3 K which she seemed very happy about. Will meet her again tonight for a dinner date.

Total damage was 6 K, which includes 1 K joiners fee for the goddamned hotel (see Bangkok Hotels thread), steep, but I felt it was worth it.

HorseTrader
04-03-17, 14:06
I asked the pretty young Issan single mother girl aged 21, why she had a baby so quick. Still at school studying. Would have been 19 when pregnant.

She said, that if a girl waits till age 30, might be very difficult to have a baby. She had a baby by see section so pussy still tight but scar. Has to be hooker now to support baby, sister, and sister's baby, and schooling not finished.

Amazing mess girls get into with Thai boys that disappear. Why rhey can't sensibly use borth control is a mystery but I blame it on poor education and social values. High percenange of hookers are single mothers. Most of the rest have pimps or are drug users, I guess. Not many sensible girls just paying for education and staying out of trouble.Seems to be a very common situation in Thailand. Working people support the whole family. Lazy people are supported by siblings and children. Stop working at young age and let children support parents and lazy relatives. From my limited exposure to Thai culture, this seems to encourage having many children at a young age. Who knows, you may have a daughter that lands a rich farang who will support the whole family?

Ralph Kramden
04-03-17, 15:05
While this is perhaps one of the least-shaky videos from inside Thermae, I'm not much of a fan of this particular auteur, and his penchant for videotaping our negotiations to put up for all the world to see.

But at about 4:30 to 5:20 (best shot at 4:46) good memories are conjured up. She's in cutoff jeans, striped low-cut shirt (the one toward the right, on the left side of the room). Lovely smile, delicious girl who was eager to please. (I had picked her up outside Thermae after 3 am) If you should encounter, do enjoy, be extra nice to her.

And, yes, she does farang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NczOig0hcMThank you for posting because I have heard a lot about the place but have never been there. Now I know I won't bother to go there because the vast majority of the providers are just average looking at best. If the Japs, Chinks and Kinks get the cream of the crop then they can have them.

Syzygies
04-03-17, 17:57
Thank you for posting because I have heard a lot about the place but have never been there. Now I know I won't bother to go there because the vast majority of the providers are just average looking at best. If the Japs, Chinks and Kinks get the cream of the crop then they can have them.Come now, you don't get a very fair impression of the best looking girls there, since majority of girls passed by the camera, had their heads cut off. However it is just possible that you would not really like that many girls. I usually found a pretty small number appealed and most of those were not looking for a Farang. If you like Baccara girls, you might just like Thermae too.

Syzygies
04-03-17, 18:16
First up a quick look in Crazy House where none of my girls had turned up for today. Some girls are already heading out of Bangkok in preparation for Songkran coming in just over a week. One girl I know went home to Savanakhet (Laos) today.

Went to Corner Bar Soi Cowboy with live Thai band, and stayed a little longer than intended. I had intended it to be very brief and move on to Twisters. Band were so-so but I thought quite a bit better than bands I had seen at Bangkok Beat previously. Sound quality and volume was a bit more acceptable than Bangkok Beat. I really went in to visit ex Crazy House waitress Aem, who is short with bandy legs and big natural tits (not having seen them uncovered). A big drinker for a little girl. Used to look after me very well at CH.

Before too long it became apparent that she wanted me to BF her and her fat friend. LOL Yeh right. Firstly I don't do fat girls. 2nd, I was not expecting to BF anyone so had been drinking alcohol that I normally stay off.

Aem does not look ugly but has slightly funny ears and hips. Anyway there were several reasons not to fuck her. We both had more to drink than we should, she has kid (s) and I have no clue what her body will look like naked, I already had a fuck today, etc. Maybe I will reconsider another day when we are both more sober. And what if the fuck turns out to be not good for some reason, or bad mummy tummy? Today I went in there just thinking she would be a waitress and not a barfinable hostess. Probably shows I don't know this bar at all.

WildHawk
04-03-17, 20:41
Come now, you don't get a very fair impression of the best looking girls there, since majority of girls passed by the camera, had their heads cut off. However it is just possible that you would not really like that many girls. I usually found a pretty small number appealed and most of those were not looking for a Farang. If you like Baccara girls, you might just like Thermae too.It is always in the eye of the beholder, but Ralph's point is fair enough; we may be heightening the image of the Thermae girls by their very selectiveness, in terms of their penchant for rejecting farang. I suspect the videographer is Caucasian by virtue of the fact that few, if any of the girls are looking in the camera's (his) direction. I did not make may way inside Thermae (again, the girl I pulled was a leftover, and discovered outside after 3 am; one of her compatriots had actually told me that she would not go with a farang, but pointed to her friend and said, "She will," and the girl was ear-to-ear smile; knowing what I know about her, I'd pick her out of the Thermae lineup in a heartbeat and she'd make a great three-day travel companion, even with her barely existent English.) Thermae does look like a nice shopping venue, or at least something to check out once. Now, the old Lisboa racetrack it ain't. *sigh* Those were the days.

Syzygies
04-04-17, 05:35
It is always in the eye of the beholder, but Ralph's point is fair enough; we may be heightening the image of the Thermae girls by their very selectiveness, in terms of their penchant for rejecting farang. I suspect the videographer is Caucasian by virtue of the fact that few, if any of the girls are looking in the camera's (his) direction. I did not make may way inside Thermae (again, the girl I pulled was a leftover, and discovered outside after 3 am; one of her compatriots had actually told me that she would not go with a farang, but pointed to her friend and said, "She will," and the girl was ear-to-ear smile; knowing what I know about her, I'd pick her out of the Thermae lineup in a heartbeat and she'd make a great three-day travel companion, even with her barely existent English.) Thermae does look like a nice shopping venue, or at least something to check out once. Now, the old Lisboa racetrack it ain't. *sigh* Those were the days.While you were willing to take a left over girl who in turn was willing to do a Farang, many of us don't work that way. I tend to survey the entire room quickly and then only speak to the most appealing girl. There is only so many times I will get told she is waiting for someone else or does not take Farangs or has a surcharge for Farangs before I give it away, rather than go to a girl giving the right signals.

I have taken two girls in recent times. Both were no repeat type girls for one reason or another. One did not kiss the other had silicones and some other problem.

In the end I decided that the hunt for a fabulous girl was too difficult. I can find girls that are the right look for me and giving more passionate GFE elsewhere.

The other problem is I take too much time to evaluate looks and chemistry. You have little time to make a decision in the Thermae. The best lookers get grabbed by Japanese very fast, usually right before I decide to approach a girl. I was often a fraction too slow taking too long to decide which girl I like.

The mediocre girls can stand there and be available for a very long time.

WildHawk
04-04-17, 07:53
While you were willing to take a left over girl who in turn was willing to do a Farang, many of us don't work that way. ....The mediocre girls can stand there and be available for a very long time.Perhaps in the exchange I didn't quite hit the correct note, dear esteemed Leader (and I follow your posts). There was nothing to the concept of accepting "a leftover. " I stumbled across the girl, having exhausted Soi Cowboy with the lights turned up on me. Whether the girl was a "leftover" or not (who knows, she may have had serviced 20 3-3-3 Japs previously that day. Numerically possible owing to the quickness of the lads of that once kingdom) is immaterial My point is that not all of these girls are inaccessible. Thermae, inside, outside, sideways or otherwise, I was pleased with her looks, the way she carried herself at the buffet line at the breakfast, and most importantly, in bed *5 star*. Merely trying to point out that one must not fear that Thermae is nothing but a Japtrap. There is hope for us all. Mediocre? Not at all. Not even close.

Syzygies
04-04-17, 08:16
Perhaps in the exchange I didn't quite hit the correct note. There was nothing to the concept of accepting "a leftover. " I stumbled across the girl, having exhausted Soi Cowboy with the lights turned up on me. Merely trying to point out that one must not fear that Thermae is nothing but a Japtrap. There is hope for us all. Mediocre? Not at all. Not even close.Okay I may have made the wrong assumption, re her standing outside at 3 am. However it was based on your own text:

"again, the girl I pulled was a leftover, and discovered outside after 3 am; one of her compatriots had actually told me that she would not go with a Farang, but pointed to her friend and said, She will, and the girl was ear-to-ear smile. ".

I have taken girls outside the Thermae myself in the far past, and had them turn out very well. They might not have been quite the Japanese spec. In the video, the one girl that tweaked my interest was the one at the very start outside in the light pink dress, although the video was not showing her face too clearly, so I may have lost interest if I met her.

I do accept that Thermae is not just a JapTrap. However it is probably not the best hunting ground for myself, given my reluctance to pull the trigger on new untried girls that may or may not give a great GFE.

Your girl was probably not my spec that I would quickly select, so I won't chase after her in a hurry. Not important. That she turned out great for you, is the important bit. It is possible to get great girls in Thermae. I just have found it difficult for me, recently. It then comes to a question of how much time and money I want to waste there on non selections or wrong selections. I have a list of girls I like to use on my LINE App. Much easier and performance is known.

The total number of different girls I have fucked in Thailand this year is relatively low, and total number tried for first time, is only like two or three, that I can think of. So I am doing 90%+ repeats. Very boring for some but okay For me. I don't have the same thirst as others to be always trying a new girl. This generally means that only girls I see as "must do" girls, or girls known for a while but not yet fucked, will get tried for first time, unless I am desperate for a fuck (can happen).

Crazy House last night had none of my preferred girls. My buddy had his regular girls there. No problem, I can just move on, unfucked. That is what usually happens at Thermae for me this year. I just move on unfucked. Frequency of visits declines. I just did not get the success to keep me keen.

Goatscrot
04-04-17, 13:07
The total number of different girls I have fucked in Thailand this year is relatively low, and total number tried for first time, is only like two or three, that I can think of. So I am doing 90%+ repeats. Very boring for some but okay For me. I don't have the same thirst as others to be always trying a new girl. This generally means that only girls I see as "must do" girls, or girls known for a while but not yet fucked, will get tried for first time, unless I am desperate for a fuck (can happen)..I hear you and feel and share your pain. The p4 p scene is just not that good these days. I partake about every two to three weeks these days. And usually it is either a compromise with looks or performance. As I get older I am less willing to compromise on either, so I only tend to go for a sesh when I am really horned up. Even then most times I come away from the event thinking that I could have had a wank and saved the money.

Syzygies
04-04-17, 14:04
I hear you and feel and share your pain. The p4 p scene is just not that good these days. I partake about every two to three weeks these days. And usually it is either a compromise with looks or performance. As I get older I am less willing to compromise on either, so I only tend to go for a sesh when I am really horned up. Even then most times I come away from the event thinking that I could have had a wank and saved the money.For guys that lack sensitivity and difficult to cum, wanking is really bad for us, should be kept to a minimum and even then only very light touch and short duration. Otherwise it only damages my sensitivity to nice pussy. No sex yesterday, nearly had a wank but managed to resist. Could have opened an XEROTICA tame porn video, but did not. If I can stay right off sex for a couple of days, then get with a really good girl, can be an extra explosive experience, way better than a wank.

Just realised I distorted the truth badly. No fuck yesterday evening would be correct. Yesterday morning woke up next to my favourite and had a wonderful fuck before breakfast. Best time for it. She is good enough to make a lot of other girls seem ordinary to boring. Soon her BF arrives in Bangkok so I have to do other things for a while.

I do understand though. Most non repeat girls are little better than a wank.

Fortunately there are some budget girls around better than a wank. Received a hint on LINE today from a street walker that she is working tonight (and has the hots for me ha ha). Usually means she has not been working for a few days. She typically gets 3 pops these days with me in 90 minutes as well as the money. Would be nice if WE could get a few pops and get paid for it as well. LOL. Hookers never enjoy the sex. Ha ha. Never believe that! Yet the first time went with her it was probably well under an hour no real GFE, and no pops for her. Chemistry can build over time.

Bars girls are expensive so only did repeat girls known to be good this year that I can recall, so far. Twisters certainly has a few prospects I would like to try. Tried three new MP girls. Only Prae was completely satisfactory for the service and compatibility. Another very pretty face girl was acceptable. The 3rd, Wawa at Club 102 was lacking something as well as lacking looks. No repeat. Mostly just doing girls in my LINE contacts that are still contactable. Alas Knot at Suzi Wong seems to have quit hooking and is selling in a store, the mamasan told me. Was always a horny girl on the bed so miss her. Maybe her sister is still there. Probably did not do a single Soapy girl for the year.

KhaoLao
04-05-17, 09:45
I hear you and feel and share your pain. The p4 p scene is just not that good these days. I partake about every two to three weeks these days. And usually it is either a compromise with looks or performance. As I get older I am less willing to compromise on either, so I only tend to go for a sesh when I am really horned up. Even then most times I come away from the event thinking that I could have had a wank and saved the money.Agree as well. Of course I have hunted like mad in the first time including the first years of residency here in thailand. But we know all, first fuck is usually not that good, chemistry not yet builded up. Not care how good she may look. In these days I am not willing to do anymore compromises, and from time to time I let this the girl feel very well. This is even not really needed most times, as you have other goals, your entire behavior and body language changes and most will get it without to hinting it out. Now I tend to go along with girls I know since a while, and even there only with the best couple ones. I have a tier 2 group, which I take from time to time. But if there performance does not improve, she will be put back to tier 2 or even farther. Most of the girls gets the point and either increases their performance or leave me alone. Just popping up from time to time. Most time early morning hours when they are mad drunk already haha. When timing allows, I might try her for another time. And if she was in the mood and the performance astronomical high I will tell her. Babe, that was cool. Keep it up like that and I will take you more often!

It sounds harsh to some of you. It even sounds harsh to my 15 year younger myself. But honesty is most time appreciated and gives a good guideline for girls, which are usually quiet lost without such a line. Hell, I'm eager and able to provide a good time for the girls, including dinners and parties at the best places which this city can provide with a guy with manners and behaviours. If you want to be into this game, gear up your stuff and deliver some by your own!

KhaoLao
04-05-17, 09:55
It is funny how things changes within a year or two. Two years ago my favorite spot was Cowboy, but now in these days it's simply not much fun anymore for me. Crazy House? Yeah, have visited it numerous times until I lost interest in it. Why? I am myself unsure. To loud, to crazy, to much drink hustling, to unfriendly mamasans and only a couple good lookers, which are usually way overbooked. Tilac is since 25 years my house bar. Because of that I still frequent this place quite often as I know almost every soul in there. Shark was usually a good place for me until I lost interest too. I might retry as I heard voices that things got better again. Baccara was never my place, the outfit and lightnings of the girls did not improve the sexual appeal on them IMHO. Dollhouse was sometimes worth a good party or two. Rest of Cowboy I simply skipped for a number of years.

Currently Nana rocks for me. Billboard and Twisters had a good fight to be number 1 at Nana. In my eyes Billboard has won it now. Twisters just lost a number of good looking girls, they have lost even a couple one to Soi Thanya. On the other side Billboard has improved. Loads of cuties working in there, and it's the only place where GoGo girls and Coyote girls are same priced. Barfine for both classes are 700 Baht. So if you are out for a young and gorgeous coyote girl which not makes big fuss, that's the place.

Uncle Volodya
04-06-17, 10:12
For guys that lack sensitivity and difficult to cum, wanking is really bad for us, should be kept to a minimum and even then only very light touch and short duration. Otherwise it only damages my sensitivity to nice pussy. No sex yesterday, nearly had a wank but managed to resist. Could have opened an XEROTICA tame porn video, but did not. If I can stay right off sex for a couple of days, then get with a really good girl, can be an extra explosive experience, way better than a wank.

Just realised I distorted the truth badly. No fuck yesterday evening would be correct. Yesterday morning woke up next to my favourite and had a wonderful fuck before breakfast. Best time for it. She is good enough to make a lot of other girls seem ordinary to boring. Soon her BF arrives in Bangkok so I have to do other things for a while.

I do understand though. Most non repeat girls are little better than a wank.

Fortunately there are some budget girls around better than a wank. Received a hint on LINE today from a street walker that she is working tonight (and has the hots for me ha ha). Usually means she has not been working for a few days. She typically gets 3 pops these days with me in 90 minutes as well as the money. Would be nice if WE could get a few pops and get paid for it as well. LOL. Hookers never enjoy the sex. Ha ha. Never believe that! Yet the first time went with her it was probably well under an hour no real GFE, and no pops for her. Chemistry can build over time.

Bars girls are expensive so only did repeat girls known to be good this year that I can recall, so far. Twisters certainly has a few prospects I would like to try. Tried three new MP girls. Only Prae was completely satisfactory for the service and compatibility. Another very pretty face girl was acceptable. The 3rd, Wawa at Club 102 was lacking something as well as lacking looks. No repeat. Mostly just doing girls in my LINE contacts that are still contactable. Alas Knot at Suzi Wong seems to have quit hooking and is selling in a store, the mamasan told me. Was always a horny girl on the bed so miss her. Maybe her sister is still there. Probably did not do a single Soapy girl for the year.Living the life! Keep on trucking my friend!

And stay horny!

Uncle-V.

Syzygies
04-06-17, 12:13
It is funny how things changes within a year or two. Two years ago my favorite spot was Cowboy, but now in these days it's simply not much fun anymore for me. Crazy House? Yeah, have visited it numerous times until I lost interest in it. Why? I am myself unsure. To loud, to crazy, to much drink hustling, to unfriendly mamasans and only a couple good lookers, which are usually way overbooked. Tilac is since 25 years my house bar. Because of that I still frequent this place quite often as I know almost every soul in there. Shark was usually a good place for me until I lost interest too. I might retry as I heard voices that things got better again. Baccara was never my place, the outfit and lightnings of the girls did not improve the sexual appeal on them IMHO. Dollhouse was sometimes worth a good party or two. Rest of Cowboy I simply skipped for a number of years.

Currently Nana rocks for me. Billboard and Twisters had a good fight to be number 1 at Nana. In my eyes Billboard has won it now. Twisters just lost a number of good looking girls, they have lost even a couple one to Soi Thanya. On the other side Billboard has improved. Loads of cuties working in there, and it's the only place where GoGo girls and Coyote girls are same priced. Barfine for both classes are 700 Baht. So if you are out for a young and gorgeous coyote girl which not makes big fuss, that's the place.I pretty much agree. Except I never managed to build any interest at Tilac at any stage over the years. Just lacking pretty faced girls at time of my visits.

That is what it comes down to in the end. If the bar has girls that really appeal, lots of other weaknesses can suddenly be forgotten. So Crazy House has become quite boring. I only BFed one of regular girls this year there, and several visits did nothing. It is probably well below standard of 3 years ago. They possibly accept any girls not too fat these days, or selection standards have definitely declined.

You don't say when you last visited Billboard and Twisters. I visited last week, and for several natural pretty faced girls, and for my taste, Twisters was still well in front. Single night sample of both bars same night. Both bars have ample spinner or slim type girls with good bodies. Both bars have girls with nice natural tits. The good thing about Billboard was the very low incidence of Silicones, so much so that I did not notice any at all that night. Bangkok Bunnies is for silicone lovers, but not for me.

Syzygies
04-06-17, 12:29
It sounds harsh to some of you. It even sounds harsh to my 15 year younger myself. But honesty is most time appreciated and gives a good guideline for girls, which are usually quiet lost without such a line. Hell, I'm eager and able to provide a good time for the girls, including dinners and parties at the best places which this city can provide with a guy with manners and behaviours. If you want to be into this game, gear up your stuff and deliver some by your own!I have found that even the very best girls service can start to drop off if she starts to take you for granted. Then you have to rest that girl for a while, or send to the lower tier.

One fantastic girl used to give me absolutely everything she could, but having become very regular, starts to omit things sometimes, e. G. No DATY today, as I am scared you might scratch me (even I was willing to try for the smoothest shave possible) and she always cums from DATY, or no BBBJ today (I have bad shoulder). She dropped any chance of anal long ago. Her ass is out of practice.

So I have to circulate to some much more keen girls that have not been doing so regularly. Sometimes the girl not done for some time can be extra horny, and extra good.

If first fuck is moderate, or girl is extra pretty, I may give girl a second chance. Fortunately did that with one freelancer and she has now become a very good reliable fuck. Also one bargirl was vastly better and passionate the second time with some leg opener tequilas into her. I think two tries is enough, Girls are not likely to improve after that. Far more likely to go downhill.

If a girl maintains a good standard and is pretty, I can keep doing her for years. Not many last that long though. Most girls are moody, and their standard of session can vary accordingly, even if I am not relevant to their current mood.

High levels of keenness by the girl are a very important aspect for a good session. The key to keeping girls keen, is to treat them very nicely and relaxed no pressure. It is easy to act like a prince among frogs, even if not handsome, not that charming, and not even rich.

Syzygies
04-06-17, 20:17
You don't say when you last visited Billboard and Twisters. I visited last week, and for several natural pretty faced girls, and for my taste, Twisters was still well in front. Single night sample of both bars same night. Both bars have ample spinner or slim type girls with good bodies. Both bars have girls with nice natural tits. The good thing about Billboard was the very low incidence of Silicones, so much so that I did not notice any at all that night. Tonight checked out both Billboard and Twisters again.

Billboard first up to maybe 8.45 PM. I did see some silicones this time, but not among the topless soapsuds girls. Rotating stage is rather too dark. So you don't see that the girl's faces too clearly. Still one girl very pretty, and one reasonable (except fake nose and tits).

Moved Straight on to Twisters. Twisters had significantly more girls present at that time. Lighting is better. Now could find 3 to 6 reasonably pretty girls, over time, meaning perhaps only 3 at first, but numbers still building. Spent longer in Twisters simply as the girls were a bit better. Chatted to Bpan (I think she spells it Pun). She did not want to go with me. No price discussed. Says she is a bit scared of farang sized dick, and split with Thai BF not that long. Says she has been with customers only a couple of times and that she likes small dick. I wonder if one of the customers fucked her too hard and now scared due to that. Better the girl says no, than to waste the money on a bad fuck.

Still there were more than one other girl I liked the looks of, but have had time yet to check the chemistry, as yet. Moved on about 9. 30 PM to go to something else planned as a fallback.

Neither bar was that busy but numbers were building. If compared both bars to Crazy House, I would expect CH to have more customers at comparable times, however Twisters girls are better looking but some girls slightly too covered up.

On way out, a quick peek in Diamonds through the doorway that used to be Candyland and before that Hot Lips. Definitely a couple of nice looking topless girls in there. I should check that out another day.

United1
04-07-17, 08:38
Gents,

I will be in BKK next week. Its Songkran water festival and I remember from a few years ago that a lot of business are close and many of working ladies go back home to villages. Can anyone provides thoughts on the scene in BKK for mongering.

Also. Can anyone recommend options to pick up ladies earlier in evening? Sadly I am usually in bed by 10pm and seems like Climax doesn't really get busy until 12-1 am. Any guidance would be appreciate, even personal connections.

U1.

Michager
04-07-17, 12:03
What experience do you have in Bangkok on Songkran? Does Songkran affect the sex business and how?

Aviator12
04-07-17, 20:05
What experience do you have in Bangkok on Songkran? Does Songkran affect the sex business and how?Participated last year. For the first time. I was not too enthusiastic about the idea because I generally try to avoid such events. I had the idea it was childish, a hazzle with big crowds etc. But I put on a cheap T shirt and shorts, covered my phone in plastic and went to Soi Cowboy in the daytime. And I had a blast! I mean, I am over 50 and thought that such activities was all in the past. But it was great fun and I do recommend you to try it out. Be prepared to get soaked of course, but do buy a "gun" and join in the water fights. It was just amazing. In the evening all was back to normal in Cowboy and business more or less as normal. It is true that some girls will go back to visit their family during Songkran, but don not worry; there are plenty left. And the daytime activity actually give you the opportunity to make friends (both male and female) so you will enjoy the evenings even more. Everyone was friendly and there is a festive feeling to it all. I did nor partake in other areas of Bangkok. Soi Cowboy in the daytime covered my needs for [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117)!

Syzygies
04-07-17, 21:59
Called in at Crazy House today briefly. Decided to leave after they put shows on. The shows are horrible because they use fat and ugly girls, to do stuff that mostly isn't sexy or beautiful in any way. Pretty girls are not willing to do the ugly shows.

However before that the line up was quite good today. Miles in front of last Monday. Can't say why? Two or 3 new girls were moderately interesting for looks and sexiness.

In addition, despite me knowing almost zero girls last Monday, today 4 of my regular girls were there: Jane, Oom, Noi, and Jan (Jun). All very good on the bed, nice GFE with DFK, and passionate and horny girls. Knew a few other girls: have previously done Ui and Naam, with Naam O.K. but not really great, and Ui hopelessly dick scared. Kratae and Ice (Geronimo) also present but never tried. Some other known girls like Taeng Mo, Boom, Phriao, and Mon were missing today (none of these are in my favourites).

Still not the former CH, but has its good and bad days. I could certainly get a nice fuck with a sleek pretty girl of my type today. For me the bar is O.K. for a short visit, if the right girls are there. If former girls Nat, Donut and May-Lee were still in CH, it would be too hard for me to stay away. All three very pretty with good bodies, and fun on the bed. Perhaps it is best they are not there.

Outdoor bars or cart bars have started to creep back to Sukhumvit. Depends on if they can pay enough corruption money. One was setup just past the Thermae, another between Soi 21 and Soi 23, and two more in Soi 23. Unfortunately I chose the wrong one between Soi 21 and Soi 23, because I knew a girl working there. I ordered a total of 4 drinks, 2 for me and 2 for the girl. However bill came and it had several more drinks for others girls that I knew nothing about, and had not sanctioned. I assumed they came from other customers. It seemed the girl ordered these by herself. I had never been ripped off at a cart bar before, or had anything like this happen, so was obviously a shock. Even I knew this girl very slightly before, I think they should sack her, for imagining me ordering drinks for everyone without me saying anything. You want to be careful about having too much fun at these places when staff start imaging drink orders, that never happened. Avoid this cart bar or certainly avoid the skinny girl called Lek. I am not sure that fault lies with anyone else. One girl actually asked me for a drink and I knocked her back, since did not know her at all.

BushWhack
04-08-17, 01:26
I found a good bar stool at Big Dog's just at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Great location to watch the BKK world go by. Around 8 pm I saw the lineup of girls across the street in the Nana Hotel parking lot begin to fill. At the parking lot entrance most far from Hooters a small cluster of hot girls communicating with each other through sign language has sprouted up. I have watched them for a couple of nights. Several are cute little spinners, one in particular caught my eye. Over a few beers I watched as several men approached the hottest one (in my opinion), but then walked away. I assumed the price was too high. There was one girl with verbal skills who seem to be doing the negotiating for the mutes. The pretty one; to a few of the men she showed her phone screen to them and they immediately walked away. I wondered if there was something more than price going on. One guy lounging on a motorbike back behind the entrance sign may be running this crew, they all turn to him and communicate via sign every now and then. Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". Once again I countered with one thousand (although tomorrow I go to Pattaya and this same one thousand would get two Beach Road girls so I was not too enthusiastic about the negotiation) and she said, "one thousand two hundred". I bowed gracefully, said thank you and walked away. The negotiator started saying something about "she go with you" but I kept walking. Looking back on the negotiation, the girls with verbal skills was much prettier than the mute girl I was pursuing. It might have been interesting if I shifted gears mid-negotiation and asked for the negotiator!

Earlier I received one of the best oily massage hand jobs ever at Kinnaree between JW Marriott and the entrance to Nana Road. One hour massage THB 500. I told the girl I'd give her an additional 500 for the hand job. I had a great time talking and laughing with Mose and ended up giving her a very generous 1,000. Guess I'm feeling Songkran generous. Funny that I would give 1,500 for a hand job but not for short time with a pretty mute girl! Such is life.

EihTooms
04-08-17, 02:56
I found a good bar stool at Big Dog's just at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Great location to watch the BKK world go by. Around 8 pm I saw the lineup of girls across the street in the Nana Hotel parking lot begin to fill. At the parking lot entrance most far from Hooters a small cluster of hot girls communicating with each other through sign language has sprouted up. I have watched them for a couple of nights. Several are cute little spinners, one in particular caught my eye. Over a few beers I watched as several men approached the hottest one (in my opinion), but then walked away. I assumed the price was too high. There was one girl with verbal skills who seem to be doing the negotiating for the mutes. The pretty one; to a few of the men she showed her phone screen to them and they immediately walked away. I wondered if there was something more than price going on. One guy lounging on a motorbike back behind the entrance sign may be running this crew, they all turn to him and communicate via sign every now and then. Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". Once again I countered with one thousand (although tomorrow I go to Pattaya and this same one thousand would get two Beach Road girls so I was not too enthusiastic about the negotiation) and she said, "one thousand two hundred". I bowed gracefully, said thank you and walked away. The negotiator started saying something about "she go with you" but I kept walking. Looking back on the negotiation, the girls with verbal skills was much prettier than the mute girl I was pursuing. It might have been interesting if I shifted gears mid-negotiation and asked for the negotiator!

Earlier I received one of the best oily massage hand jobs ever at Kinnaree between JW Marriott and the entrance to Nana Road. One hour massage THB 500. I told the girl I'd give her an additional 500 for the hand job. I had a great time talking and laughing with Mose and ended up giving her a very generous 1,000. Guess I'm feeling Songkran generous. Funny that I would give 1,500 for a hand job but not for short time with a pretty mute girl! Such is life.Yes, I have observed that group with the motorcycle guy hanging around behind the sign for more than a year now. I don't think I have ever seen one of those girls walk off with a customer. Maybe just my timing. I have seen guys stand there exchanging phone screen images with them for extended periods before walking away and assumed it had to have been about more than merely "How much?" but at least partially about "For What?" In your negotiation with the verbal girl, did she say anything about the quality of the Short Time, what might actually be on offer other than whatever is presumed to be a standard Short Time procedure? Anything mentioned like FS only, BBBJ+FS, BBBJ+CIM, Anal, BBFS, Two Hours of Up to You or something a bit more specific like that?

I got stopped by one of the really skinny mute girls there about a year ago. She smiled broadly, waggled her eyebrows, winked, gestured to her mute friend and showed me her phone screen that said something like (I'm paraphrasing from memory now), "Two ladies for two hours 1,500". So I was just wondering if they are still communicating more than mere price either on their phone screen or through the verbal negotiator.

Member #4591
04-08-17, 03:18
Called in at Crazy House today briefly. Decided to leave after they put shows on. The shows are horrible because they use fat and ugly girls, to do stuff that mostly isn't sexy or beautiful in any way. Pretty girls are not willing to do the ugly shows.

However before that the line up was quite good today. Miles in front of last Monday. Can't say why? Two or 3 new girls were moderately interesting for looks and sexiness.

In addition, despite me knowing almost zero girls last Monday, today 4 of my regular girls were there: Jane, Oom, Noi, and Jan (Jun). All very good on the bed, nice GFE with DFK, and passionate and horny girls. Knew a few other girls: have previously done Ui and Naam, with Naam O.K. but not really great, and Ui hopelessly dick scared. Kratae and Ice (Geronimo) also present but never tried. Some other known girls like Taeng Mo, Boom, Phriao, and Mon were missing today (none of these are in my favourites).

Still not the former CH, but has its good and bad days. I could certainly get a nice fuck with a sleek pretty girl of my type today. For me the bar is O.K. for a short visit, if the right girls are there. If former girls Nat, Donut and May-Lee were still in CH, it would be too hard for me to stay away. All three very pretty with good bodies, and fun on the bed. Perhaps it is best they are not there.

Outdoor bars or cart bars have started to creep back to Sukhumvit. Depends on if they can pay enough corruption money. One was setup just past the Thermae, another between Soi 21 and Soi 23, and two more in Soi 23. Unfortunately I chose the wrong one between Soi 21 and Soi 23, because I knew a girl working there. I ordered a total of 4 drinks, 2 for me and 2 for the girl. However bill came and it had several more drinks for others girls that I knew nothing about, and had not sanctioned. I assumed they came from other customers. It seemed the girl ordered these by herself. I had never been ripped off at a cart bar before, or had anything like this happen, so was obviously a shock. Even I knew this girl very slightly before, I think they should sack her, for imagining me ordering drinks for everyone without me saying anything. You want to be careful about having too much fun at these places when staff start imaging drink orders, that never happened. Avoid this cart bar or certainly avoid the skinny girl called Lek. I am not sure that fault lies with anyone else. One girl actually asked me for a drink and I knocked her back, since did not know her at all.It sounds like you had a bad night with Merci and then this. I've had that happen to me before where no matter where you go in one night, nothing goes right. The mongering gods were just not on your side. If I see that happening to me, I call it a night and go home before more financial damage occurs via lady drinks, barfines, or massage rates. I remember one night between a bad Annie's experience, bad Angel Witch barfine, failed freelance Climax pick up, and a failed cart bar pick up, I had wasted about 10,000 in bullshit.

Goons
04-08-17, 03:37
Guys,

I'm going next month, did some RTFF last month and starting to do more this weekend. Found most of the stuff I've been looking for but a few more things I need to ask.

First, I haven't been to a girlie bar in over two years, first time I'm going sober. I'm not in AA or anything but I'd like to maintain my 18 months without a drink so what are my options at these bars? Will going for a non alcoholic drink scare off the girls, maybe make me seem cheap or less likely to fall for their charms and attempts to secure customer?

I'm an early bird, my usual M. O. Was hit the bars early, between 7 pm to 10 pm to avoid crowds. I know girls are usually less likely to bargain and if they do barfine early, they are in more of a rush to get back and make more money than if they were BF'd later in the night. I guess there is no reason to expect any different in bkk?

In the past I've had success just hanging out in the bars and drinking with girls, getting contacts and making arrangements for the next day. This is partially to avoid the barfine and also because I prefer mid morning and afternoon sessions compared to drunkenly walking into my hotel with a girl late at night. From what I've read, doesn't seem like this is done a lot on BKK but I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.

EihTooms
04-08-17, 03:48
It sounds like you had a bad night with Merci and then this. I've had that happen to me before where no matter where you go in one night, nothing goes right. The mongering gods were just not on your side. If I see that happening to me, I call it a night and go home before more financial damage occurs via lady drinks, barfines, or massage rates. I remember one night between a bad Annie's experience, bad Angel Witch barfine, failed freelance Climax pick up, and a failed cart bar pick up, I had wasted about 10,000 in bullshit.I have always maintained that it is quite easy to have 2, 3 or even 4 days in a row go badly in Thailand. And that is nothing new, either. It happened to me and guys I knew back when I was coming here (where I live now) 20-25 years ago on vacation. It was one of the reasons I much preferred the Philippines to Thailand in those days. Since the time and distance from USA to this part of the world was so great, I capitalized on the grueling journey by spending a week or so in the Philippines and a week or so in Thailand. I never regretted the time I spent in Thailand. But the reality was when I was in Thailand I missed the Philippines. However, when I was in the Philippines I never missed Thailand. The potential risk of having a bad run of experiences that might easily chew up a day, two or even three days in a row of my vacation time in Thailand, something that never happened to me in the Philippines, was one of the reasons for that.

Then, just as suddenly, it is really easy to have the next 3, 4, 5 or more days in a row provide some of the most satisfying and happy experiences in Thailand one could ever want and all is forgotten about the bad run. Or almost forgotten. I often wonder if I ever would have wanted to return to Thailand at all if the FIRST 3 days or so I spent here way back when happened to be one of those truly awful bad runs.

BushWhack
04-08-17, 03:49
In your negotiation with the verbal girl, did she say anything about the quality of the Short Time, what might actually be on offer other than whatever is presumed to be a standard Short Time procedure? Anything mentioned like FS only, BBBJ+FS, BBBJ+CIM, Anal, BBFS, Two Hours of Up to You or something a bit more specific like that?

Tooms you may be onto something. I did not get so far as to discuss procedure or the short time menu, but that may be the issue causing so many men to walk away. I'm pretty standard, BJ followed by a few interesting positions and I'm done. I don't think a shortened menu would have queered my deal.

An interesting note: after walking away from the negotiation, down the street and back I noticed two of the mutes and the negotiator all clustered around the guy on the motorbike. The first thing that flashed into my mind was the girls were asking permission to accept a lower price. I watched three men disengage from the mute, then me. That's a good bit of business walking away. I'm not an investment banker but seems to me accepting THB 1,000 twice is better than demanding 1. 5 four times and getting nothing.

Blanquiceleste
04-08-17, 04:15
Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". Once again I countered with one thousand (although tomorrow I go to Pattaya and this same one thousand would get two Beach Road girls so I was not too enthusiastic about the negotiation) and she said, "one thousand two hundred". I bowed gracefully, said thank you and walked away. The negotiator started saying something about "she go with you" but I kept walking. Looking back on the negotiation, the girls with verbal skills was much prettier than the mute girl I was pursuing. It might have been interesting if I shifted gears mid-negotiation and asked for the negotiator!

Earlier I received one of the best oily massage hand jobs ever at Kinnaree between JW Marriott and the entrance to Nana Road. One hour massage THB 500. I told the girl I'd give her an additional 500 for the hand job. I had a great time talking and laughing with Mose and ended up giving her a very generous 1,000. Guess I'm feeling Songkran generous. Funny that I would give 1,500 for a hand job but not for short time with a pretty mute girl! Such is life.Yea, I really did not get the idea of walking away from a 1200 thb ST and blowing the (nearly) same amount on a massage and HJ. Perhaps it gives you winning feeling of having "negotiated" well? No offense, just trying to understand the psychology!

Syzygies
04-08-17, 06:44
Over a few beers I watched as several men approached the hottest one (in my opinion), but then walked away. I assumed the price was too high. There was one girl with verbal skills who seem to be doing the negotiating for the mutes. The pretty one; to a few of the men she showed her phone screen to them and they immediately walked away. I wondered if there was something more than price going on. One guy lounging on a motorbike back behind the entrance sign may be running this crew, they all turn to him and communicate via sign every now and then. Finally I went over to bargain with the prettiest one, her verbal negotiator friend said, "one thousand five hundred short time". I countered with one thousand, the negotiator said, "many men want her, one thousand five hundred". You may well have seen me approach those girls too if was around 11 pm. Two deaf girls. The really quite pretty one was in blue colour outfit. I did fancy her. She was similar looking to my Jane at Crazy House but a little less skinny (could easily have been a sister for looks LOL). She kept trying to put me on to her ugly companion. The girl in blue did possibly appear to have a waistline maybe not quite as slim as I like. Sure, she showed me the screen with large 1500. Also tried to sell me on taking both girls. Might try the girl in blue another day, but not the ugly one. I was also fancying another freelancer sitting down dressed in a dark brick red dress, who seemed to be not trying to interest guys, but rather just wait for a guy to come to her, due to the pretty face. One or two other blondish haired girls looked good. The overall standard was quite high, compared to what is normally expected, however getting a great GFE on a first time girl is not easy, in my experience. Yes can get a girl for 1000 or 1200 sometimes, but it probably will be 30 minute non GFE. I would rather pay 1500 if can get the GFE.

I usually take my regular freelancer for 90 minutes, so 1000 Baht isn't going to be the deal. We sometimes eat together afterwards. Eating before sex is not a great idea for me. Tends to cut my energy levels for a long sex about. She told me one Japanese customer wanted to take her to RCA, so she charged him 1500 per hour, and he was willing to pay that. LOL even it wasn't sex, and she wasn't stunning. Ha Ha. Crazy. She also told me about 70% of guys approaching want BBFS and often offer significantly higher money for that which she is refusing. However I expect that many freelancers could not resist significantly more money for no condom. Haven't done the survey. Maybe Eih Tooms will know what percentage of freelancers do BBFS on a first time booking.

Massage with HJ is zero interest for me. I would rather have naked pretty girl sit on my lap at Crazy House. Different priorities.

No ability to talk is no barrier for me. I have done the odd fabulous latin girl in the past who had zero English and I had zero Spanish. One girl Momo from Cuba was fantastic. Memories of 2005. LOL Lack of talk can be replaced by kissing and other things, if you know the girl is willing. So the cute deaf girl is on my "to do" list. Probably just need to "chat her" up somehow and see if a GFE may be possible.

Challenging to build the chemistry out there on the street when the girl doesn't talk. She does lip read Thai well. English I am not sure.

Syzygies
04-08-17, 06:54
Then, just as suddenly, it is really easy to have the next 3, 4, 5 or more days in a row provide some of the most satisfying and happy experiences in Thailand one could ever want and all is forgotten about the bad run. Or almost forgotten. I often wonder if I ever would have wanted to return to Thailand at all if the FIRST 3 days or so I spent here way back when happened to be one of those truly awful bad runs.Yes, I have not had such a bad day for a while. In the end was not totally bad. Did a regular girl for a nice 90 minute fuck in between the two bad experiences. The real problem was the extra expense of the bad parts of the day. Wasted money. The wasted time did not matter that much. It is a disincentive to try new things.

It's always great to have known good girls to fall back on, so the day was not a complete write off. Today I can do nothing at all. Maybe watch sport at the pub.

Farape
04-08-17, 14:38
Was fortunate enough to be able to spend a couple of days in Bangkok. In the evenings I visited a good number of Gogo Bars and wanted to share my experiences. During the day I also visited some (more limited) Massage places. Will share those experiences in the massage section of the forum at a later stage.

Billboard (only Gogo I visited at Nana): Good size Gogo with a unique bath / jacuzzi styled "dance-area" on the right when you enter. On the left a Carousel styled dance pod. Quite a large number of attractive dancers, some really get into it (in the bath area, which actually has foam in it; the "carousel-area" is more quiet). For a lady-drink the girls get more engaged (EG lap-grinding) than in some other Gogo's. Good music, pleasant atmosphere.

Crazy House (this and all following Gogo's are in Soi Cowboy): This is one of the most popular Gogo's and is always quite crowded. While I admit that they do have some attractive dancers and a good number of them are in their birthday suits, I have never really enjoyed the atmosphere, I find it is more pushy than other places. Maybe one has to be a regular to be treated well. Also the prices quoted for s / t fun was clearly at a large premium (THB 4k! Maybe she was smoking sth very unhealthy?

Lighthouse: My favorite place as the last stop for the evening, I. E to have some fun with the girls and then barfine one. The dancing is not really anything to write home about (unless there is a dancer who really wants to leave an impression on you.). They have Coyote's and normal dancers (THB 1,200 and THB 700 BF respectively), I found quite a few of the latter category cuter and more fun. And that impression lasted beyond the bar.

Shark: same owner as Lighthouse. Seems to follow the same model, but trying to be slightly more upscale. Downside for me is that the normal dancers are not that hot here and the coyote's (BF seems to be THB 1,500?) , who usually dance upstairs, but come down when less crowded tend to get pricy (also from a Ladydrink point of view). Granted that they really have some stunners.

Baccara: Again one of the more popular Gogo's which has pro's but also some con's for me. Good number of dancers of which quite a few are very attractive, the concept with the see through floor at the second level is great and brilliant views are to be had for those seated in the right area of the first floor. Action at the second floor is fun, but the heavy smoking is really a strong negative as is the pushy nature of some of the dancers. Girls are generally (some exceptions though) very much attracted to the buying power (or shall I say overspending) by Japanese clients and thus at times challenging for older (45+) Westerners.

Long Gun: Fun Bar, themed shows (E. G. Hawaiian dance) that can be fun and entertaining. Girls are quite pretty and not pushy. Ladydrinks go a longer way (timewise, not necessarily also in terms of action) here and all seem to be in a good mood. Good place to spend some time. Haven't tried BF, but would imagine a good result as well.

Raw Hide: Again a fun place with some action happening (all the way to birthday suits). Downside is that they now seem to have a large number of Coyote's (and quite a limited number of normal dancers) who, despite on average looking very good, are less active in providing a good service and instead are looking to maximising their intake. BF for these Coyotes is also steep, though I do not remember the exact amount.

Just a few impressions that might be helpful for some newbies thinking of where to go in the BKK Gogo scene.

Syzygies
04-08-17, 19:15
Crazy House (this and all following Gogo's are in Soi Cowboy): This is one of the most popular Gogo's and is always quite crowded. While I admit that they do have some attractive dancers and a good number of them are in their birthday suits, I have never really enjoyed the atmosphere, I find it is more pushy than other places. Maybe one has to be a regular to be treated well. Also the prices quoted for s / t fun was clearly at a large premium (THB 4k! Maybe she was smoking sth very unhealthy?
True price is usually 2500 or 3000 plus barfine, depending on your negotiating skills or on the girl. Some of the more ugly or less popular girls may go for 2000. However unlikely for a very hot girl. Never heard of having to pay 4K ST for even the very best girls ever in there. LT could be available for 4K to 5K, depending on the girl. I can't be sure since it is a long time since I took a LT. Girls are not hassling me that much, even though there are a lot of new girls that don't know me. I am pretty good at ignoring unwanted girls. I don't like to look them in the eye as though to acknowledge them. A girl comes up and puts out her hand to shake mine. I pay no attention. If she tries to sit on my lap, I just don't allow it. No need to be too friendly. I am Farang, so I don't know if girls act more forcefully with timid looking Asian guys. My advice is just don't allow girls to dominate you in any way, and ignore them as best you can. If girl is with you already and keeps pestering for drinks too much, just say no thanks, or tell her to go away in extreme cases. Or just stop talking to her and stop looking at her at all. If refuse to listen or answer, she will get the message. These are extreme cases. I don't have so much problem. Was much worse for me in Long Gun. I knew too many people and did not want to have to rudely tell them all to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off. However you can't afford to be real friendly with too many people in a bar. If you are nice to anyone, will be hard to get rid of them.


Lighthouse: My favorite place as the last stop for the evening, I. E to have some fun with the girls and then barfine one. The dancing is not really anything to write home about (unless there is a dancer who really wants to leave an impression on you.). They have Coyote's and normal dancers (THB 1,200 and THB 700 BF respectively), I found quite a few of the latter category cuter and more fun. And that impression lasted beyond the bar.

I recently noticed some cute girls outside Lighthouse. Time for a revisit.



Long Gun: Fun Bar, themed shows (E. G. Hawaiian dance) that can be fun and entertaining. Girls are quite pretty and not pushy. Ladydrinks go a longer way (timewise, not necessarily also in terms of action) here and all seem to be in a good mood. Good place to spend some time. Haven't tried BF, but would imagine a good result as well.
I can't go in there any more. Get hassled too much for drinks. Too many staff know me from former times.

If you are back in Nana I recommend try out Twisters, for superior quality girl looks, however not like Baccara girls. Baccara and Sharks are not my style.

Coyotes in Cowboy are largely a waste of time and money and not that special. Coyotes in Nana are very prevalent these days, may well be cheaper, more available for sex, and better compared to Cowboy.

Aviator12
04-08-17, 21:32
Guys,

I'm going next month, did some RTFF last month and starting to do more this weekend. Found most of the stuff I've been looking for but a few more things I need to ask.

First, I haven't been to a girlie bar in over two years, first time I'm going sober. I'm not in AA or anything but I'd like to maintain my 18 months without a drink so what are my options at these bars? Will going for a non alcoholic drink scare off the girls, maybe make me seem cheap or less likely to fall for their charms and attempts to secure customer?

I'm an early bird, my usual M. O. Was hit the bars early, between 7 pm to 10 pm to avoid crowds. I know girls are usually less likely to bargain and if they do barfine early, they are in more of a rush to get back and make more money than if they were BF'd later in the night. I guess there is no reason to expect any different in bkk?

In the past I've had success just hanging out in the bars and drinking with girls, getting contacts and making arrangements for the next day. This is partially to avoid the barfine and also because I prefer mid morning and afternoon sessions compared to drunkenly walking into my hotel with a girl late at night. From what I've read, doesn't seem like this is done a lot on BKK but I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.In my experience it does not matter if you drink alcohol or not. The girls will certainly be interested in going with a sober guy. No need to fear the girl will offer a rushed service. This is more related to the attitude of the girl than the time of evening. Good luck!

Allover
04-09-17, 03:14
Guys,

I'm going next month, did some RTFF last month and starting to do more this weekend. Found most of the stuff I've been looking for but a few more things I need to ask.

First, I haven't been to a girlie bar in over two years, first time I'm going sober. I'm not in AA or anything but I'd like to maintain my 18 months without a drink so what are my options at these bars? Will going for a non alcoholic drink scare off the girls, maybe make me seem cheap or less likely to fall for their charms and attempts to secure customer?I don't drink alcohol either for the most part. I usually order orange juice or club soda. It is never a problem with the girls and I believe many girls prefer to go with a non-drinker. I occasionally order a cheap beer during happy hour. At that time beer is cheaper than water. I'll take a few sips but 95% of my beer goes unfinished.

EihTooms
04-09-17, 04:02
Yes, I have not had such a bad day for a while. In the end was not totally bad. Did a regular girl for a nice 90 minute fuck in between the two bad experiences. The real problem was the extra expense of the bad parts of the day. Wasted money. The wasted time did not matter that much. It is a disincentive to try new things.

It's always great to have known good girls to fall back on, so the day was not a complete write off. Today I can do nothing at all. Maybe watch sport at the pub.Yes, and imagine a newbie showing up and instead of having all 2-3 in a row bad experiences in a single day (perhaps due to planned P4 P budgetary limitations) he has them spaced out one each day for the first three days of his vacation! LOL. I would say the pressure and expectations along with a very bad mood by the morning of the 4th day would be rather intense.

Syzygies
04-09-17, 08:00
I'm an early bird, my usual M. O. Was hit the bars early, between 7 pm to 10 pm to avoid crowds. I know girls are usually less likely to bargain and if they do barfine early, they are in more of a rush to get back and make more money than if they were BF'd later in the night. I guess there is no reason to expect any different in bkk?

In the past I've had success just hanging out in the bars and drinking with girls, getting contacts and making arrangements for the next day. This is partially to avoid the barfine and also because I prefer mid morning and afternoon sessions compared to drunkenly walking into my hotel with a girl late at night. From what I've read, doesn't seem like this is done a lot on BKK but I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.7 Pm is a bit too early to hit gogo bars. Although Crazy House opens early like 7. 30 pm, no point to turn up till at least 8. 30 pm since early girls are not the pretty ones. Best girls may still be arriving at 9. 30 PM and have to get changed before dancing. 8. 30 PM, the bar will still not yet be crowded. So you choose a seat with best view. Doesn't matter if gets more crowded later.

I love a fuck in the morning myself. However bargirls are unreliable. If you make arrangement for the next day, they likely won't show up, unless very high money offered. So you need a fall back plan. Sukhumvit Soi 4 has bars open daytime, like Stumble Inn, Morning Night. There will still be a barfine.

Many massage joints are open at 11 AM. You don't have to have a massage at all. LOL I don't. More difficult to find pretty girls though. May have to try several places near to each other.

I never drink alcohol before sex (almost never). I may drink afterwards. It's not an issue at all. Bars serve Coke, Coke Light, Zero, Sprite, Orange juice, Pineapple juice, Soda water (known as Soda in Thailand), Tonic (water), plain water, maybe even tomato juice, etc. Soda is best for me, as no sugar, and I drink it slower.

For extra shy newbie girls, they may need 2 or 3 tequilas to loosen up, and become much more keen to be fucked. Likely improves their kissing also.

Syzygies
04-09-17, 08:06
Yes, and imagine a newbie showing up and instead of having all 2-3 in a row bad experiences in a single day (perhaps due to planned P4 P budgetary limitations) he has them spaced out one each day for the first three days of his vacation! LOL. I would say the pressure and expectations along with a very bad mood by the morning of the 4th day would be rather intense.After a bad experience, it is wise to move on to an absolutely sure thing, to change the mood. Could be some highly recommended girl in an MP or could be a regular girl. Several gambles in a row is getting to risky. Imagine if took several Soapy girls in a row on the same day, and they were all poor. Could happen easily.

So I never try more than one new girl on same day anymore, and probably not even on consecutive days.

Solo Traveler
04-09-17, 18:59
Hi,

This may be a strange question, but I would like to know if there is a Thailand equivalent in the West.

A place where mongers / punters can get short-term girlfriends for days, or even weeks, do lots of stuff together without keeping a low profile, all in a laid-back environment.

Brazil seems to be the South American equivalent of Thailand, from what I've heard and seen.

So, how about in Europe, North America, and Oceania?

Not interested in Thai girls. More interested in Caucasian girls, so that's what I'm asking.

Smoothy
04-10-17, 04:36
For extra shy newbie girls, they may need 2 or 3 tequilas to loosen up, and become much more keen to be fucked. Likely improves their kissing also.Good advice. And avoid the girls who only want to drink orange juice. They are likely dead fucks. Whenever a girl refuses alcohol, I throw her back and find a different girl. I want my girl at least a bit tipsy when she's in bed.

Syzygies
04-10-17, 07:56
Not interested in Thai girls. More interested in Caucasian girls, so that's what I'm asking.Its not exactly the right thread for those not interested in Thai girls. I have heard of guys in Bangkok not so interested in Thai girls and going for Russian girls in some clubs. Even some beauties supposedly although I have not seen them. Will be a higher price of course for good ones.

You might want to look in the FKK and Sauna Club threads in Germany, especially for Frankfurt, Cologne, Duesseldorf areas. You can see there are adverts on this page that mentions FKK and Saunaclub. There are American guys and Asian guys that will spend days in these clubs with an international selection of girls but mostly East European, with Romanian the most dominant. Some clubs have a large number of girls all naked. I know one guy with a lot of money, takes an FKK club girl away with him on holidays to Thailand and South America. Far more expensive than doing the local girls here.

Don't you already know about this stuff?

Syzygies
04-10-17, 08:12
Good advice. And avoid the girls who only want to drink orange juice. They are likely dead fucks. Whenever a girl refuses alcohol, I throw her back and find a different girl. I want my girl at least a bit tipsy when she's in bed.Certainly seen some very prim and proper cautious girls transformed into raunchy sluts by a few drinks. Not guaranteed to work with every girl. However I am always careful not to take girls that have had too many drinks. How many is too many? Just depends on if girl is used to alcohol and how well she is coping with it, and whether drinks are strong or weak, and whether she already drank Yaa Dong herbal alcohol drink supplied to girls by the bar. 3 drinks is enough for a newbie girl not used to it.

The key word is slightly tipsy. Drunk girls are a waste of money.

Finnish Fucker
04-10-17, 20:38
And avoid the girls who only want to drink orange juice. They are likely dead fucks. Whenever a girl refuses alcohol, I throw her back and find a different girl. I want my girl at least a bit tipsy when she's in bed.


The key word is slightly tipsy. Drunk girls are a waste of money.This discussion about alcohol and money reminds me of a young girl I met in Pattaya a few years ago. She was definately not an orange juice drinker. I met her while she was partying with her friends on WS close to Ibar. She was drunk, I was drunk. We had some more drinks and finally went back to my hotel. She was too drunk to fuck (as I was) and passed out. In the morning she did not hurry to leave and to my suprise did not have a bad hangover so she was willing and able to fuck. Nice body, good sized natural tits for a Thai. After the sex I asked her how much money she wanted for the night. She told me she doesn't want any money, she had come from Bangkok to Pattaya just to party and have fun for a few days. And so we did. We played billiards, partied hard and fucked the next 3-4 days. Money after sex was never discussed. She was quite a heavy drinker (like a Finn) and eager to ring the bell in the bars. I paid of course a couple of rounds. I felt like being 25 YO student again in Finland drinking and fucking hot young girls for free. She just looked a bit darker and more exotic, heh. I was paying of course for her drinks and food as a gentleman should. I did not count how much I paid during those days, I did not care as we had such a good fun. She was happily drunk every night but always able to fuck the next morning and during the day. Great memories.

Syzygies
04-11-17, 02:09
This discussion about alcohol and money reminds me of a young girl I met in Pattaya a few years ago. She was definately not an orange juice drinker. I met her while she was partying with her friends on WS close to Ibar. She was drunk, I was drunk. We had some more drinks and finally went back to my hotel. She was too drunk to fuck (as I was) and passed out. In the morning she did not hurry to leave and to my suprise did not have a bad hangover so she was willing and able to fuck. Nice body, good sized natural tits for a Thai. After the sex I asked her how much money she wanted for the night. She told me she doesn't want any money, she had come from Bangkok to Pattaya just to party and have fun for a few days. And so we did. We played billiards, partied hard and fucked the next 3-4 days. Money after sex was never discussed. Wow, hot girl. I would not care if the skin was dark or not. Can't see the face but nose looks good.

Nice to only have to pay in kind and a few rounds of drinks. LOL Just shows that in Thailand, it is foolish to plan well ahead and book lots of things. Go with the flow is far better.

Smoothy
04-11-17, 03:52
Wow, hot girl. I would not care if the skin was dark or not. Can't see the face but nose looks good.With a body like that, I don't give a rats ass what her face looks like. Especially her nose.

Goons
04-11-17, 04:41
Thanks at Aviator12, at allover. I had never realized these bars served non alcoholic drinks. In the past it was my favorite way of getting sauced while visiting countries that had girlie bars. I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy myself at these places sober, but I'll certainly give it a try. I enjoy sitting around talking to the girls, not always barfining them. From what I've read BKK with all the foot traffic and tourists, is more of a businesslike approach from the girls who move on to the next customer if they don't sense they will be able to close a deal. Hopefully I'm wrong.


7 Pm is a bit too early to hit gogo bars. Although Crazy House opens early like 7. 30 pm, no point to turn up till at least 8. 30 pm since early girls are not the pretty ones. Best girls may still be arriving at 9. 30 PM and have to get changed before dancing. 8. 30 PM, the bar will still not yet be crowded. So you choose a seat with best view. Doesn't matter if gets more crowded later.

I love a fuck in the morning myself. However bargirls are unreliable. If you make arrangement for the next day, they likely won't show up, unless very high money offered. So you need a fall back plan. Sukhumvit Soi 4 has bars open daytime, like Stumble Inn, Morning Night. There will still be a barfine.

Many massage joints are open at 11 AM. You don't have to have a massage at all. LOL I don't. More difficult to find pretty girls though. May have to try several places near to each other..For the past few weeks I've been doing on and off research, my focus has been mostly on the bars but it seems I may need to put more effort into reading up on the alternatives especially since I'm no longer into drinking and loud music. I guess BKK is the wrong country to expect a nice quiet girlie bar where I can sit with a girl or two and not be interrupted by too many drunks stumbling in and out throughout the night?

As far as freelance outside Nana (where I'm planning to stay my first night out of convenience), and around Soi 4, how do they compare to bargirls in terms of quality of service? I've read through some older posts and it seems there is no reason to expect the majority of them to be a lower quality just because they are not employed in the slightly more glamorous (compared to standing on the street) setting of a bar with flashing lights and loud music.

Supmam
04-12-17, 03:12
Hi I am looking for a place that would provide a haircut / manscaping and BBBJ as an extra. I know Anne (at friends used to provide that service but hoped someone knew of a decent place that provided haircuts and extras now.

Goatscrot
04-12-17, 03:47
With a body like that, I don't give a rats ass what her face looks like. Especially her nose.Ain't that the truth. She could have the face of a bulldog's but and I would not care if the bod was like that.

Syzygies
04-12-17, 08:00
For the past few weeks I've been doing on and off research, my focus has been mostly on the bars but it seems I may need to put more effort into reading up on the alternatives especially since I'm no longer into drinking and loud music. I guess BKK is the wrong country to expect a nice quiet girlie bar where I can sit with a girl or two and not be interrupted by too many drunks stumbling in and out throughout the night?

As far as freelance outside Nana (where I'm planning to stay my first night out of convenience), and around Soi 4, how do they compare to bargirls in terms of quality of service? I've read through some older posts and it seems there is no reason to expect the majority of them to be a lower quality just because they are not employed in the slightly more glamorous (compared to standing on the street) setting of a bar with flashing lights and loud music.Most gogo bars have music too loud. I don't know where to recommend with quiet quality music. There are some DJs I like, but always loud.

For freelancers can peruse the Thermae, but quality service for western guys is not easy to come by. A good number of the girls don't want to kiss. Maybe my selections were unlucky. A lot of surgeries in there, and soso bodies. Girls on Soi 4 (watch out since 50% are ladyboys) are cheaper, but mostly looking for a 30 minute quickie again kissing often not included. There are some reasonably good looking girls there especially late like 1 AM or so when bars are starting to reach closing time. A few are doable for me. I would suggest that bargaining to too low a price will only make the service worse. I pay a bit more because I want a longer GFE session.

You can get much better service for your money in PSE massage parlors. Outside of that, service is hit and miss everywhere in the lower price brackets. I prefer to take a long time to choose girls, to try to assess if they are wanting to give good service or not.

Other than my regular girls, known to be good, I prefer taking new girls from bars, as my repeat percentages are higher, meaning I liked the overall experience of looks, GFE, and fun better. However have to consider other options. Other guys hate bars and bargirls. Mainly due to the price I would guess, also because hard to get PSE girls. Of course you have to find bars that suit to your taste.