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Agree, I saw some absolute stunners in Emporium and around that area a few weeks ago, but they were not P4 P girls.Ah, now that is where a man's youth, good looks, charm, wealth and game can be put to a proper challenge.
However, to set about to apply those attributes, even if earned through extraordinary effort rather than dumb luck, in order to crush the egos of third world country girls busy fending off a gloomy old age by sucking and fucking strangers and the old, fat, ugly and stingy men who come here to pay them for it, just as we all are, seems like pathetically low sport and not much of a challenge to me.
But if it helps get someone through the night, go for it.
Ah, now that is where a man's youth, good looks, charm, wealth and game can be put to a proper challenge.
However, to set about to apply those attributes, even if earned through extraordinary effort rather than dumb luck, in order to crush the egos of third world country girls busy fending off a gloomy old age by sucking and fucking strangers and the old, fat, ugly and stingy men who come here to pay them for it, just as we all are, seems like pathetically low sport and not much of a challenge to me.
But if it helps get someone through the night, go for it.I have a rich Thai friend (business acquaintance, not close friend) who is fairly young and good looking. He's the son of a Thai General. The dude gets the hottest Thai girls I have ever seen. He hooked me up with the sister of one of his girls once and it was a night of heaven. You definitely do not ever see girls that hot at any of the gogos in Thailand (at least I have never seen them). His girlfriend the last time I saw him was a top 10 hot girl I've ever seen in my life anywhere in the world. Young, tall, creamy smooth white skin, gorgeous face, well maintained, simply stunning. And she spoke perfect English. I asked him how much he paid his girl, and was shocked at how much he was giving her. He was setting her up in an apartment, paying for her college, bought her a bmw, gave her a monthly allowance, bought her expensive things almost daily, etc. He was spending more on her in a month than I spend on girls in years. As hot as those girls are, I can't afford to pay that kind of money to keep them around. I'll stick with the 2500 to 30000 baht short time gogo girls.
I'm still curious though to see what a 10,000 baht long time girl looks like from a Nana or soi cowboy gogo.
I have been to the clubs you mentioned and did not see "the hottest girls in the entire city." The best looking girls in any go-go bar in Thailand can easily be bested on looks by maybe the 5th best looking non go-go bar girl who walked through the door of Central Embassy last Saturday between 12 Noon and 12:30 PM. Or the third best looking non go-go bar girl riding any BTS car within a mid-day hour. Perhaps they all had already been barfined by 10,000 baht guys without game or for 6000 baht by guys with very strong game. Either way, the bottom line is P4P girls are available for a price and don't really require game. If I offered the best looking girl in the place 20,000 baht and she walked away from you and your 10,000 baht lawyer friend to go with me would that indicate I have more game than anyone else at the moment? Not until somebody offers her 25,000 baht I'm guessing.
But I am all for trading intel. Do those top hookers in the go-go bars you frequent always agree to BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow for that 6,000 baht? Or do only the 10,000 baht guys get that? Does the price have to be higher than 10,000 baht to get that? If so, how much? Personally, when I am looking for sexual satisfaction from the kind of direct hooker you encounter in go-go bars, I would not be interested in paying as much as 100 (one hundred) baht for one who did not provide me with BBFS or at least BBBJ+CIM. Not even if she had just won Miss Teen Thailand 2017. But I would also have no problem paying serious Thai money, like you pay, to have the kind of real sex that I described with a top beauty in the business, albeit by markedly reduced go-go bar girl standards of beauty.Brilliant post. Could not agree more. Yep, the 5th tier at most malls bests the tops at GoGos. And like you, find me a gal who provides pure PSE service with top beauties and I will open my wallet. But guess what? That's a unicorn. It just doesn't exist. The better looking the hooker the less performance you get, because she does not need to perform. The punters just don't demand it here.
Those of you who have used Smoochi, is there anything similar for us African / Dark skin lovers? Or at least something for people who like curvy and voluptuous women? I'm lazy as fuck, how can I get in touch with either African or super curvy ladies online? I'm talking Kim Kardashian or Niki Minaj curves.
And like you, find me a gal who provides pure PSE service with top beauties and I will open my wallet. But guess what? That's a unicorn. It just doesn't exist. The better looking the hooker the less performance you get, because she does not need to perform. The punters just don't demand it here.Well, we might be talking about a special species of unicorn in this case, too. Think about it; these are said to be the hottest, most in-demand, VERY busy go-go girls who can turn 3 ST tricks for a minimum of 3,000 baht a toss within two hours virtually any night of the week then finish up the evening with a typical 10,000 baht Long Time while at the same time "get angry at and hate" the dude who talks them down to a major discount when he barfines someone else on a given night and pays his famously deep discounted price to that girl instead. But I thought they were really, really busy girls, turning down "no game" guys because so many other "at least some game" guys are throwing 3,000 baht ST/10,000 baht LT at them all the time. How do they even have time to bother thinking about the deep discount guy at all much less be "angry and hate" him because he didn't barfine them for his usual deep discount?
I am sure there is a logical explanation for it. I suspect for many of us old hands the most logical explanation would be his 6,000 baht LT is perhaps significantly more than most or any of those girls usually get after 2AM, 3AM or whatever and that's why they're pissed when he barfines someone else. But we know that can't be the reason here.
HorseTrader
11-27-17, 19:16
... The best looking girls in any go-go bar in Thailand can easily be bested on looks by maybe the 5th best looking non go-go bar girl who walked through the door of Central Embassy last Saturday between 12 Noon and 12:30 PM. Or the third best looking non go-go bar girl riding any BTS car within a mid-day hour....
Yea, I agree that the go-go bar girls are not the absolute top tier. But, the girls you see in the mall or riding BTS or wherever have two huge advantages. First, they are wearing clothes that hide their imperfections. Second, they aren't surrounded by 50 other young girls who are also competing for your money.
A few weeks ago I bar fined an above average looking girl from Nana Plaza. She wasn't close to the hottest girl in the bar. Her performance was exceptional, so a couple nights later I used LINE to arrange for her to come to my hotel. I met her outside of my hotel, almost didn't recognize her wearing normal clothes, she looked much better then when she wore bar girl clothes.
RahulMangla2009
11-27-17, 19:27
Hey guys!
Any inputs here would be really appreciated.
Hi all,
Arriving in Bangkok after good 5 years. So, very excited.
Last time I visited Climax and Mixx for picking up freelancers who were insanely hot.
Wanted to know what are the places you recommend, especially nightclubs where I can find top notch freelancers? Price is not a concern for me.
Also, which escort agencies provide the top models in Bangkok? Again, am not worried about the pricing, as am looking for best of the best girls in the city.
Thanks much.
RahulMangla2009
11-27-17, 19:30
Personally I don't see uber-attractive gals in any of the GoGos these days. Poor surgeries abound. Where do I see lookers? Malls and legit nightspot places. So many hot Chinese tourist gals that are just killing Thai gals when it comes to looks and sex appeal. Ass cheeks hanging out of shorts and that nasty gleam in their eyes. Hey, if gals of that quality were available, I would not mind paying the prices that these mediocre GoGo chicks are charging.I am new to the mall pickup scene. How do you identify if a girl in the mall would be down for P4 P?
Yea, I agree that the go-go bar girls are not the absolute top tier. But, the girls you see in the mall or riding BTS or wherever have two huge advantages. First, they are wearing clothes that hide their imperfections. Second, they aren't surrounded by 50 other young girls who are also competing for your money.
A few weeks ago I bar fined an above average looking girl from Nana Plaza. She wasn't close to the hottest girl in the bar. Her performance was exceptional, so a couple nights later I used LINE to arrange for her to come to my hotel. I met her outside of my hotel, almost didn't recognize her wearing normal clothes, she looked much better then when she wore bar girl clothes.My observation is mostly the opposite of yours. I see them with their clothes on quite a bit since I often have dinner in a location where they walk by on their way to work in the evening. And, of course, we all see them in their street clothes when they leave with a customer. I think they are usually much better looking naked or nearly so in the bars with the sexy lighting or low lighting than they look in their street clothes.
I would agree that we can not make a perfect apples to apples comparison with a girl we see in a mall because that girl is not standing naked next to the go-go girl we saw naked or nearly so previously. But in the harsh light of day and when those go-go girls are walking around outside and riding the bts just like other girls, chances are the sexiest go-go girl you see nearly naked in the bar is not even engendering a second glance among most men on those trains unless, like me, they recognize them from having met them already or something like that. And there is only so far into "ugly" under their clothes the true 9+ girls of Thailand can go unless there is some horrible baby damage and uncharacteristically mis-shapen breasts at a very early age going on under those clothes.
Personally, I am not typically swayed by clothes so much when assessing a girl's beauty and will often point out a mousey looking, dowdy dressed girl in public to my friends as the real blue ribbon winner with the best body compared with the fashion plate posers on hand. And then there are the girls who look terrific in their clothes and there is nothing about what they are wearing that hides what is really going on with their butt, skin, face, weight, proportions, etc. Bear in mind, I am not saying the top tier go-go dancers in any club are actually "ugly", by any means. Just that there is a go-go bar standard of beauty and a regular walking around Thai girl standard of beauty and the latter is quite noticeably higher when you move away from the go-go bars at night and into normal shopping or, let's say family entertainment areas of the city.
btw, I also spent a significant portion of my working life around film/tv actresses and models in the USA. And I am here to tell you there are greater beauties among regular girls on the street than among those professions too. Seriously. What might look great on the other side of a camera lens with the best lighting, make-up and angles at work does not mean that same girl will beat out the girl next door as the one you'd much rather have in your bed.
I am new to the mall pickup scene. How do you identify if a girl in the mall would be down for P4 P?If a girl in Terminal 21 or any of the other high end malls is an absolute stunner and wearing high end clothes, has a designer handbag, etc. It's pretty likely she is not P4 P. She is probably from a very rich family or has a rich boyfriend. I find Bangkok very different from Jakarta in this respect, in Jakarta you are more likely to find girls in malls who are P4 P, probably not as likely in Bangkok. But that's just my opinion, others may have had different experiences.
If a girl in Terminal 21 or any of the other high end malls is an absolute stunner and wearing high end clothes, has a designer handbag, etc. It's pretty likely she is not P4 P. She is probably from a very rich family or has a rich boyfriend. I find Bangkok very different from Jakarta in this respect, in Jakarta you are more likely to find girls in malls who are P4 P, probably not as likely in Bangkok. But that's just my opinion, others may have had different experiences.Agreed. Non P4P girls are much more easily approached and picked up in Jakarta than in Bangkok. I can walk up to a girl in a mall in Indonesia and get her number or even go home with her any day of the week, but I've not been able to do that even once in Thailand. It's because Thai people idolize Thai people while Indonesians idolize westerners. That being said, unless you are under 30, white, good looking, and preferably tall, it's still not easy to pick up a girl in Jakarta from a rich family who is still in her 20s. The lower class malls like Blok M Plaza are easy pickup spots, but an expensive mall like Grand Indonesia is not. And the girls at Grand Indonesia are far better looking than the girls at Blok M Plaza (although they are also mostly Chinese Indonesians because they are the ones with the money).
That being said, P4P is better in Bangkok.
I am new to the mall pickup scene. How do you identify if a girl in the mall would be down for P4 P?In Thailand? Forget it. Gals in malls are not looking to be picked up.
My observation is mostly the opposite of yours. I see them with their clothes on quite a bit since I often have dinner in a location where they walk by on their way to work in the evening. And, of course, we all see them in their street clothes when they leave with a customer. I think they are usually much better looking naked or nearly so in the bars with the sexy lighting or low lighting than they look in their street clothes.
I would agree that we can not make a perfect apples to apples comparison with a girl we see in a mall because that girl is not standing naked next to the go-go girl we saw naked or nearly so previously. But in the harsh light of day and when those go-go girls are walking around outside and riding the bts just like other girls, chances are the sexiest go-go girl you see nearly naked in the bar is not even engendering a second glance among most men on those trains unless, like me, they recognize them from having met them already or something like that. And there is only so far into "ugly" under their clothes the true 9+ girls of Thailand can go unless there is some horrible baby damage and uncharacteristically mis-shapen breasts at a very early age going on under those clothes.
Personally, I am not typically swayed by clothes so much when assessing a girl's beauty and will often point out a mousey looking, dowdy dressed girl in public to my friends as the real blue ribbon winner with the best body compared with the fashion plate posers on hand. And then there are the girls who look terrific in their clothes and there is nothing about what they are wearing that hides what is really going on with their butt, skin, face, weight, proportions, etc. Bear in mind, I am not saying the top tier go-go dancers in any club are actually "ugly", by any means. Just that there is a go-go bar standard of beauty and a regular walking around Thai girl standard of beauty and the latter is quite noticeably higher when you move away from the go-go bars at night and into normal shopping or, let's say family entertainment areas of the city.
btw, I also spent a significant portion of my working life around film/tv actresses and models in the USA. And I am here to tell you there are greater beauties among regular girls on the street than among those professions too. Seriously. What might look great on the other side of a camera lens with the best lighting, make-up and angles at work does not mean that same girl will beat out the girl next door as the one you'd much rather have in your bed.Another very good post sir. Most of the time when you see a BG in the light of day without makeup and lighting to hide the skin blemishes and to make them look lighter than they really are; it is quite shocking. Of course as my friends Thai wife said, "When farangs first come to Thailand; their eyes don't work. " That sure seems to be the case. So I am not surprised that non-Asian guys new to Thailand would find the darker more Isaan featured gals attractive. If they stay long enough, one day that will change and their eyes will start to function. I remember when mine did! 555.
I've been to crazy horse a least 30 times over many years. 30 times and you still don't know the place is called Crazy House? LOL.
30 times and you still don't know the place is called Crazy House? LOL.There's a strip club chain in America called Crazy Horse. And in my mind I call it crazy horse all the time.
The real game is to get what you want from the hottest girls in the entire city. Break your egos so perhaps we can help each other. How many on here can even got hot girls from Thaniya? I'm not even Japanese and I've done that. Geez let go of your egos on here so we can trade intel.Are the pictures you posted in the thread Travel Announcements Only (post #1443, dated 11-24-17) examples of 'the hottest girls in the entire city'? If so I'm not really impressed. Don't get me wrong, most of them are pretty but they don't belong to the hottest girls in the entire city IMO.
OTOH I realize that only one picture of a girl is not enough to judge her beauty. A girl can look gorgeous in one pic and very plain in another.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2182-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please)&p=2109092&viewfull=1#post2109092
By the way: talking about egos. About 6 years ago you announced that you would make your first trip to Bangkok. After that you have posted FRs of some places you visited in Europe but you have never posted anything in the Thailand thread. And now you come here, after 6 years, and tell us about 'the real game'?
Another very good post sir. Most of the time when you see a BG in the light of day without makeup and lighting to hide the skin blemishes and to make them look lighter than they really are; it is quite shocking. Of course as my friends Thai wife said, "When farangs first come to Thailand; their eyes don't work. " That sure seems to be the case. So I am not surprised that non-Asian guys new to Thailand would find the darker more Isaan featured gals attractive. If they stay long enough, one day that will change and their eyes will start to function. I remember when mine did! 555.Guess my eyes still don't work because after almost 15 years I still like dark Isaan cuties. But I can also like lighter skinned girls. Or black African girls. Or Caucasian girls.
Not trying to be politically correct here but for me beauty has absolutely nothing to do with skin color. There are pretty girls among the dark skinned Thai and there are pretty girls among the light skinned Thai.
Are the pictures you posted in the thread Travel Announcements Only (post #1443, dated 11-24-17) examples of 'the hottest girls in the entire city'? If so I'm not really impressed. Don't get me wrong, most of them are pretty but they don't belong to the hottest girls in the entire city IMO.
OTOH I realize that only one picture of a girl is not enough to judge her beauty. A girl can look gorgeous in one pic and very plain in another.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2182-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please)&p=2109092&viewfull=1#post2109092
By the way: talking about egos. About 6 years ago you announced that you would make your first trip to Bangkok. After that you have posted FRs of some places you visited in Europe but you have never posted anything in the Thailand thread. And now you come here, after 6 years, and tell us about 'the real game'?IMO, they are perfectly pleasant looking, above average go-go girls. If they are go-go girls at all. A couple of them are conveying a Ladyboy vibe. There are a few rather obvious nose and boob jobs in there. The boob jobs would be a deal killer for me unless it was for BBBJ+CIM for 2000 baht at the most to her plus a normal 700 baht barfine. Even then, it would have to be a fantastic BJ for me to get past the boob job distraction enough to even ask for her Line ID afterwards. I have been with many girls like them over the past 4-5 years for the usual 2,000-2,500 baht going rate plus maybe a 500 baht bonus for BBFS. I guess now we need to see a photo of the guy who got turned down by one of those girls or similar until he ponied up 10,000 baht for LT, for a bit more perspective.
Would I pay as much as 6,000 baht for LT with the best of those girls? I might, if that included the barfine and Lady Drinks (if any), if she fully agreed to BBFS (in which case her pussy would need to be smoothly shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed) and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, if it was all top notch in the skills department and if the LT started early in the evening, ended mid-morning no earlier than 10:30AM the next day and wasn't one of those 3AM-6AM faux "LT"s. LOL.
Would I pay as much as 6,000 baht for LT with the best of those girls? I might, if that included the barfine and Lady Drinks (if any), if she fully agreed to BBFS (in which case her pussy would need to be smoothly shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed) and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, if it was all top notch in the skills department and if the LT started early in the evening, ended mid-morning no earlier than 10:30AM the next day and wasn't one of those 3AM-6AM faux "LT"s. LOL.I agree with all of that. If all of that criteria is met, then a total cost of 6000 is ok. However, I don't think the girls consider the money paid for LT to include anything other than the cash given directly to the chick for sex. In my opinion, 6000 baht is too damn much. And 10,000 is absurd. Can the stunners get 3 or 4 short times at 2500 to 3000 each round during the night? Very likely yes. Still doesn't mean I will give the girl 10,000 baht for a long time.
I agree with all of that. If all of that criteria is met, then a total cost of 6000 is ok. However, I don't think the girls consider the money paid for LT to include anything other than the cash given directly to the chick for sex. In my opinion, 6000 baht is too damn much. And 10,000 is absurd. Can the stunners get 3 or 4 short times at 2500 to 3000 each round during the night? Very likely yes. Still doesn't mean I will give the girl 10,000 baht for a long time.If you have to pay 6 k you're doing it wrong. Sure there might be an exception or two here and there, they'd have to be a 9-10 and a freak in bed.
If you have to pay 6 k you're doing it wrong. Sure there might be an exception or two here and there, they'd have to be a 9-10 and a freak in bed.I think Smoothy and I both were also going with the "might" pay as high as 6,000 baht option if those exception criteria were met as well. And for a true LT of considersble length on either side of sleep. What we can't really know until we meet them in person is if the girl really approaches a 9-10 rating for us. I don't see it in those pics, but might in person.
And I would only consider it because it would be part of a night out on the town. Otherwise, you're right in that one can work a much lower cost for what I described as real sex with girls of the calibre suggested by those pics. My regular non bar girl 20 y.o. and even the 26 y.o. would fit favorably among that group, surpass most on looks, deliver my sexual requirements beautifully and I only give them a fraction of 6,000 baht, typically netting down to less than 1,000 baht per pop if I actually calculated it that way. Never more than 2,000 baht for a true LT. However, I am on the hook for other expenses and gifts here and there. Lol.
But even at that it would not remotely approach the 6,000 baht++ per night mentioned. And unexpected added expenses arise with bar girls, too.
However, getting it to that result requires a bit more time, effort and dare I say "game" than just walking into a go-go bar and negotiating your best deal.
HorseTrader
11-29-17, 03:45
... Of course as my friends Thai wife said, "When farangs first come to Thailand; their eyes don't work..... I don't think I have a problem with my eyes in Thailand, but my IQ seems to drop about 30 points.
I don't think I have a problem with my eyes in Thailand, but my IQ seems to drop about 30 points.I just lost my bowels laughing! Thanks Mr HT, I needed that laugh.
PhilAndererer
11-29-17, 07:40
Is the discrimination against Indians confined to those visiting in groups or the whole race? I am an Indian and visiting alone. Do I have to face the similar discrimination? Though it is not beneficial to most people here and out of context kindly share the details of some acceptable gogos which welcome Indians as well. Thanks.
If you have to pay 6 k you're doing it wrong. Sure there might be an exception or two here and there, they'd have to be a 9-10 and a freak in bed.Exactly. And truth be told, I have yet to meet at 9-10 who is a freak in bed in my 18 years in Thailand.
Guess my eyes still don't work because after almost 15 years I still like dark Isaan cuties. But I can also like lighter skinned girls. Or black African girls. Or caucasian girls.
Not trying to be polically correct here but for me beauty has absolutely nothing to do with skin color. There are pretty girls among the dark skinned Thai and there are pretty girls among the light skinned Thai.For Asians it has a lot to do with skin color. I do seem some darker gals that I find attractive, but it is rare these days. And I don't like the flat faces, square heads, or high cheekbones. Although I have seen some African gals that are ok; I'm just not attracted to them. Funny as I like a tan on a white chick, but prefer my Asians light skinned. Honey skin on an Asian is really nice as well.
IMO, they are perfectly pleasant looking, above average go-go girls. If they are go-go girls at all. A couple of them are conveying a Ladyboy vibe. There are a few rather obvious nose and boob jobs in there. The boob jobs would be a deal killer for me unless it was for BBBJ+CIM for 2000 baht at the most to her plus a normal 700 baht barfine. Even then, it would have to be a fantastic BJ for me to get past the boob job distraction enough to even ask for her Line ID afterwards. I have been with many girls like them over the past 4-5 years for the usual 2,000-2,500 baht going rate plus maybe a 500 baht bonus for BBFS. I guess now we need to see a photo of the guy who got turned down by one of those girls or similar until he ponied up 10,000 baht for LT, for a bit more perspective.
Would I pay as much as 6,000 baht for LT with the best of those girls? I might, if that included the barfine and Lady Drinks (if any), if she fully agreed to BBFS (in which case her pussy would need to be smoothly shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed) and/or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, if it was all top notch in the skills department and if the LT started early in the evening, ended mid-morning no earlier than 10:30AM the next day and wasn't one of those 3AM-6AM faux "LT"s. LOL.We are on the same page again. Would I pay 6 k for that? If the above criteria were met (minus the BBFS and possibly plus A+), I could pop twice during the ST, so minimum 90 minutes, and she had a very well developed skill set, was erotic, and seductive. So in Thailand no; probably a unicorn. My guess is the gals pictured have very high regard for themselves and really don't have to do much when it comes to the "act. " They get by on their looks alone and most guys let them get away with it.
For Asians it has a lot to do with skin color.Yes I know, but it often seems to me it has only to do with skin color and not actual beauty. If you have two equally pretty girls (objectively considered), one dark and one light, then most Asians will find the light skinned girl more attractive but primarily because she has a light skin. Because a light skin means she doesn't have to work in the sun, like a poor peasant or other people with a low status. It has much to do with social status and not actual beauty.
Dark skinned girls, even the very pretty ones, almost always say to me they would like to be light skinned. They consider themselves ugly because of their dark skin. I think this is very sad.
Yes I know, but it often seems to me it has only to do with skin color and not actual beauty. If you have two equally pretty girls (objectively considered), one dark and one light, then most asians will find the light skinned girl more attractive but primarily because she has a light skin. Because a light skin means she doesn't have to work in the sun, like a poor peasant or other people with a low status. It has much to do with social status and not actual beauty.The difference is not only in the skin color but the shape of the body (and face) differs also (not always but most of the time). In my first years in Thailand I didn't care about the skin color, but now I tend to be more attracted to white skinned girls also. The smell of their body is different also. I don't believe it's mostly because of a social status.
I agree with all of that. If all of that criteria is met, then a total cost of 6000 is ok. However, I don't think the girls consider the money paid for LT to include anything other than the cash given directly to the chick for sex. In my opinion, 6000 baht is too damn much. And 10,000 is absurd. Can the stunners get 3 or 4 short times at 2500 to 3000 each round during the night? Very likely yes. Still doesn't mean I will give the girl 10,000 baht for a long time.Interesting debate. You hit the whole psychological nerve of why people pay more and others pay less. Why do people pay a lot for a real Rolex when a fake one will tell them the exact same time? Why do people drive a BMW when a Hyundai will get them to where they are going? Why do people chase stunners when average girls will still help you shoot your load?
In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.
If we look like Ryan Gosling and had a lot of money then stunners would cost us very little. We pay what we can afford and what we think the girls are worth. Sometimes we hit real gold and sometimes fools gold. It is that simple.
Happy Hunting.
Applesauce
11-29-17, 12:55
Anyone pick up a freelancer and take her back to your hotel by BTS? I'm looking at hotels around Siam and imagine the traffic via taxi getting there would be a pain.
Member #4698
11-29-17, 13:29
Anyone pick up a freelancer and take her back to your hotel by BTS? I'm looking at hotels around Siam and imagine the traffic via taxi getting there would be a pain.It's a really bad idea and a terrible way, possibly a fatal way to start your liason. 99% of the girls will balk at the idea of taking the BTS. Forgetaboutit!
Yes I know, but it often seems to me it has only to do with skin color and not actual beauty. If you have two equally pretty girls (objectively considered), one dark and one light, then most asians will find the light skinned girl more attractive but primarily because she has a light skin. Because a light skin means she doesn't have to work in the sun, like a poor peasant or other people with a low status. It has much to do with social status and not actual beauty.
Dark skinned girls, even the very pretty ones, almost always say to me they would like to be light skinned. They consider themselves ugly because of their dark skin. I think this is very sad.It's not only sad, I find it absurd. Especially among the Asian men who are dark skinned themselves but are only interested in white skinned women. And you are correct that they will choose a light skinned dog over a dark skinned beauty. Even though the average person in the country has relatively dark skin, every single commercial on TV has light skinned people. The media has done a number on these people. Totally brain washed.
It's a really bad idea and a terrible way, possibly a fatal way to start your liason. 99% of the girls will balk at the idea of taking the BTS. Forgetaboutit!I would also highly recommend not doing this. The best freelancers / GoGo girls will barely want to walk a few blocks to the BTS station let alone ride it for 20 minutes with you. I would also not recommend staying in Siam if you plan to mostly chill in the Suk area. It is going to be really annoying given the traffic. If you are in Siam, hit up places there or use the dating apps.
HornyBabaji
11-29-17, 15:47
Hey guys!
Any inputs here would be really appreciated.I would suggest you to try levels lounge or insanity, both are nearby. Good clubs and nice music, insanity goes on till 4 am. Another option is Spasso in grand Hyatt Erawan, girls dress up in little sophisticated but music sucks and its bit suitable for mid age person. Mixx is also nice but they usually doesn't allow Indian and Arabic people, there preferred client tally is whites.
Regarding escorts you can try tony BKK, they have a nice collection. I would suggest you to better go for clubs rather than picking up escorts.
In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.Me too but unfortunately a lot of BMWs turn out to be Hyundais in bed, while Hyundais on the other hand often turn out to be BMWs in bed.
Interesting debate. You hit the whole psychological nerve of why people pay more and others pay less. Why do people pay a lot for a real Rolex when a fake one will tell them the exact same time? Why do people drive a BMW when a Hyundai will get them to where they are going? Why do people chase stunners when average girls will still help you shoot your load?
In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.
If we look like Ryan Gosling and had a lot of money then stunners would cost us very little. We pay what we can afford and what we think the girls are worth. Sometimes we hit real gold and sometimes fools gold. It is that simple.
Happy Hunting.There is one factor that does not fit your analogy re P4P girls in Thailand; the assumed real Rolex will likely lose 15 seconds per minute while the nearly identical looking one is accurate to the second. The BMW will likely be stone cold out of gas while the Hyundai is topped up and ready to roll. The stunners have learned most guys will pay their asking price even if they never engage in what I would consider real sex.
I don't think any of us on the side of the debate that expects top quality service to be combined with top quality looks if we're going to pay top Rolex and BMW money for it would balk at the bill if that combination was delivered. But to only define a Rolex and a BMW by how it looks and how much it costs regardless whether it can even come close to telling accurate time or take you from point A to point B without getting out to push leads to a very bad deal IMO.
Moreover, the "beauty" level of the girls apparently at question does not appear to me by their pics to be any different than what can be had out there for significantly less than the money stated and for that money will deliver at least what I'm betting they routinely give their most favorite regular customers if not more.
I would have no problem paying Rolex and BMW money for the real thing in both looks AND performance. Maybe work a reasonable discount off the asking price as per normal procedure. But we have not heard from the previous wearer and driver what the perfomance level is for these models yet, only seen a photo and heard how much he paid for them below what another guy paid. That is just too little intel to consider before jumping in and saying, "Great! I'll take one, too."
Me too but unfortunately a lot of BMWs turn out to be Hyundais in bed, while Hyundais on the other hand often turn out to be BMWs in bed.LOL. I was composing my post while you already posted your much more concise one expressing the same sentiment. Good one.
In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? What the cost is in your home country has no real bearing on the cost in Thailand. For example, when you come to Thailand will you pay 300 Baht for a plate of pad thai on the street? Probably not. You will pay what the local going rate is. And my suspicion is that the local rate is less than you would pay in your home country. 10 K Baht for a night's work in Thailand is not cheap. It is an extraordinary wage. Most Thais I know with MBAs and ten plus years of experience don't make that kind of wage. Far from it. So really what you pay at home has no relevance what so ever.
I would have no problem paying Rolex and BMW money for the real thing in both looks AND performance. Maybe work a reasonable discount off the asking price as per normal procedure. But we have not heard from the previous wearer and driver what the perfomance level is for these models yet, only seen a photo and heard how much he paid for them below what another guy paid. That is just too little intel to consider before jumping in and saying, "Great! I'll take one, too."I've said that on countless occasions. I would have no problem paying Ferrari prices for a Ferrari, but not for a sporty looking car with a Volkswagon engine under the hood.
HorseTrader
11-30-17, 06:09
I've said that on countless occasions. I would have no problem paying Ferrari prices for a Ferrari, but not for a sporty looking car with a Volkswagon engine under the hood.My best experience this month was a Camry in the Nana bar, a Corvette the first night together, and a Ferrari the 2nd night together. The lady drink convinced me that our personalities would mesh nicely. I was more than happy to pay the 2000 baht per night plus a tip, which I felt was Corolla pricing.
I would not ask for more than what I got.
Guys,
I did read it somewhere in one of the threads of Bangkok about a bar where you can pickup girls without risking getting a LB. Apparently this bar is located in Shukumvit road somewhere near Terminal 21 and the entrance is a bit hidden under another hotel entrance. Outside lots of LB standing but inside there are part-time WGs whom one can negotiate prices with.
I did RTFF but could not find that post. Would any of you kind mongers help me out and give me the name / location of this place. I will be in BKK next week and would like to check it out.
Sorry, I haven't had the time to respond back to some of these postings. I figured what I originally posted was going to ruffle up some feathers. It always does because no matter what ISG is supposed to be a platform for (advice and sharing intel), there is always going to be dudes with ego on here that talk down about others because they have NO game. And when they have NO game, they make up an excuse that "there is no such thing as game" when it comes for pay for play. To those with that attitude, THANK YOU! Without guys like you, there wouldn't be guys like me. Still, if you don't think there is any 'game" required. Ask yourself, Why did she go with him and not me? Why did they let those Indian guys in Baccara, but told the other ones "Member Only?" Why did my friend get better service from the same girl I bar fined previously? And on and on.
I've been mongering and hanging out with Phazze93 and SilverSurfer for the past few days. Collectively, we agreed that it's better to ignore some of these angry or bitter guys on ISG that. Let's say "have restricted access" to the hotter and prettier girls. And because of their limitations and lack of game, they down play the quality of the girls, and get angry at other guys for over paying etc. Etc. Of course, there is no fault with themselves, and everyone and everything else is to blame. So us three guys were in search of where to find the hottest Thai girls in the P4 P industry. Rainbow 2 and Baccara are the 2 Go Go bars known for let's say the better crop of good looking girls in Bangkok. And yes they are biased. At this point, some of these members on here would disagree, but their opinion is unimportant. The girls in the industry will tell you that they are the top 2, not the customers. I will post more about them later, but having milked that scene and having been with all the hotter girls in those clubs, I was ready to move on.
Phazze93 took us to the Lord Palace. I've never been and he said there are alot of model types there. The Lord is known as the best and most expensive massage joint in Bangkok. The place has a nice size fish bowl and when we arrived to check out the talent, I was able to find my Thai model type girl that fit the profile seen on Thai television and billboards. When I selected her, both SilverSurfer and Phazze93 responded "Awe man! That's the one I wanted. " Sorry guys, too slow. But at least we had the same eye for beauty. They were left with their plan be and see girls, I guess. She informed me she was an XX model, meaning her pricing for me was 9900 baht. "No problem" I said. And the rest is history. We had a good time and she did everything that I wanted from her and what I considered GFE. I'm not going into detail because this isn't the thread for it, plus there was alot of "game" that had to be played between her and I in order to get that type of service. She told me she gets 7-8 customers a day, so I figured she was the top girl in there. After she escorted me down, 5 minutes later she was selected by another customer. Even as her hair still looked as if she was freshly fucked, but with me, it was neat and in place. So Thank God!, for the help from Phazze93 to help me find the model I wanted. My girl also gave me her LINE contact and offered me another model friend who doesn't work there, but willing to fuck selected guys. Awesome. Hot girls who don't get jealous when I change them out! That's the best. Just a bit of advice, at the Lord, I think pricing may be different depending on who you are. So yes, there is racial bias. I've heard of others paying 12,000 and up to 20,000 for the XX models. Another guy paid 7,700 for the lowest end model, but on our price card, the lowest was 5,500. We three are all Asians BTW. Once again. We can't get mad at the industry rules, charge it all to the game. But play better and you will get what you want.
Now, it's time to put your money where your mouth is, for some members on here. SilverSurfer, Phazze93, and I have looked at the history of photos for this forum. We are very disappointed at the quality. Is that, what is considered pretty now days?. It might be rude to say "yuck," so I would just rather say. "those are not my type, but thanks for sharing. " So if ANYONE on this forum has ANYTHING worth while to share, please do. What I really mean is post photos of the "most beautiful, prettiest, or hot girls" that you don't mind sharing for others to fuck and that way they can make some money. This way, if any of us members like the way they look. We can trade you a girl for a girl, after screening. I am willing to share the contact information with some of my girls, for yours if I feel that they are my type of hotness. I was able to hook SilverSurfer up with a girl after screening, but on that day, she started her period, and he wasn't adventurous to earn his "red wings. " Also, don't try to give me hamburger meat for filet mignon, so please post in public what you have to offer. If there isn't any replies, then for sure I know that most shit talkers have been talking out of their asses on here. To that I say "It's time to IGNORE. " To the rest of those whose goal is to fuck HOT GiRLs, let's keep playing and keep sharing intel. Here are my 3 real girls to put up. All 3 have breast implants and are slim by the way.
Went to Snow White yesterday. Took Emmy. 28, no kid, white skin, almost pink nipples, very nice body, A+, and great skill set. Popped twice in 60 min, first time in the keister, second time CIM. Damage 1900 Baht all in. So when I see 5 k Baht, plus BF and drinks, I just have to shake my head really. Been in Baccara, CW, and the lot recently. To my eyes have never seen a gal worth almost 200 USD.You seriously told Phazze93 that you "shook your head" at him barfing a girl in Baccara? And then shared about your gem at Snow White Massage? Clearly, you have judged a lot of beauty pageants in the past and know what you are talking about.
Me too but unfortunately a lot of BMWs turn out to be Hyundais in bed, while Hyundais on the other hand often turn out to be BMWs in bed.Then sir, please work on your game or ask yourself what you may be doing wrong. Because I'm sure some of them BMWs perform like a Bentley for other customers.
Then sir, please work on your game or ask yourself what you may be doing wrong. Because I'm sure some of them BMWs perform like a Bentley for other customers.Don't worry sir, I've had my share of BMWs performing like a Bentley over the years. I didn't say ALL of the BMWs turn out to be Hyundais, did I?
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Don't worry sir, I've had my share of BMWs performing like a Bentley over the years. I didn't say ALL of the BMWs turn out to be Hyundais, did I?Actually you didn't even mentioned Bentleys. Or did you? And also, you never look to see perhaps what you did wrong or why they performed like Hyundais? I’m always looking to improve, rather than complain. Doing the same thing over and over again and then complaining too much about it, is a sign of getting old and bitter, ya know?
I would suggest you to try levels lounge or insanity, both are nearby. Good clubs and nice music, insanity goes on till 4 am. Another option is Spasso in grand Hyatt Erawan, girls dress up in little sophisticated but music sucks and its bit suitable for mid age person. Mixx is also nice but they usually doesn't allow Indian and Arabic people, there preferred client tally is whites.
Regarding escorts you can try tony BKK, they have a nice collection. I would suggest you to better go for clubs rather than picking up escorts.If these are the type of quality of girls you want. Then they work at the higher end Go Go bars and then they party and look for their long time customers at Scratch Dog or the Hanker Club. Advice, both of those clubs can make any non Asian feel out of place. So go with someone who knows the ropes and is a regular. The poster above is incorrect about MIXX. Their preferred client is any race that doesnt wear shorts and willing to pay for bottle service and spend about 5000 baht and up. Do that and the security staff and bouncers will keep bringing girls to your table. Act like a boss instead of a sex tourist and you will get what you want. Just ask and tip well.
If these are the type of quality of girls you want. Then they work at the higher end Go Go bars and then they party and look for their long time customers at Scratch Dog or the Hanker Club. Advice, both of those clubs can make any non Asian feel out of place. So go with someone who knows the ropes and is a regular. The poster above is incorrect about MIXX. Their preferred client is any race that doesnt wear shorts and willing to pay for bottle service and spend about 5000 baht and up. Do that and the security staff and bouncers will keep bringing girls to your table. Act like a boss instead of a sex tourist and you will get what you want. Just ask and tip well...They're hookers dude. They're job is to get you to spend money. It has nothing to do with game. Some dingy guy comes in there and offers them 20k compared to your 10k, they're gone, along with your "game." Of course believing it is about game will certainly cause you to open the wallet more. How's your Thai? If it's good you can listen to what they are telling their friends. Especially fun when they don't know you speak Thai. Then you'll hear the real story. And think if they are not regulars they don't have a bouncer or server that helps 'em find the dudes that will spend? And sure he gets a cut at some point. I mean, I am glad you are having a great time. More power to you. But don't delude yourself. You are a sex tourist if you don't live her and are coming here to screw girls. Think the gals don't know that? Of course they do. It's their business to know it. We're not "bitter." We're realistic about what is transpiring. No matter how you cut it; it's a business transaction.
Again, are they going to provide PSE? Do they have a well developed skill set? Can they be seductive, erotic, open to some fetish play? A+? Freakish? Sorry Monkey, many of us are beyond the age where we have any desire to "act like a boss. " We have no desire to prove we have "game. " We have no desire to impress anyone. We don't want to put on a show for or romance working girls. Most of us don't have much interest in what they have to say and we definitely don't want to be in a disco playing bad pop music or worse yet with a cover band playing pop music. We came here to escape all that nonsense. Hell I had no patience for that when I moved here 18 years ago when I was in my early 30. I walked into a disco full of working gals, did a round, had my pecker grabbed multiple times, heard "go with you" so much my head hurt, grabbed the one I found attractive, and off I went for a romp. And all for about 25 USD. WTF would I want to spend over 300 for? Honestly, I'd rather go out for an amazing meal and head home for a wank. Those gals. Well, if I could find one that did not have numerous surgeries, well except tits, I like a good tit job, (the gals in your pics have almost all had their noses done, some chin implants, and some have had their jaws shaved as well),I'd be willing to go 150 for an hour if she met the above requirements. If not, you can have them. But paying 300 US and up? FFS, you can have a high dollar hooker anywhere, who actually performs.
You seriously told Phazze93 that you "shook your head" at him barfing a girl in Baccara? And then shared about your gem at Snow White Massage?. Clearly, you have judged alot of beauty pageants in the past and know what you are talking about. (. crickets chirping.)Yep, never seen so many bad surgeries in one place then in Baccarat.
As Goatscrot alluded to, why are you so resistant to simply answering the questions about what kind of action in the bed these 6,000-9900+ baht ST girls deliver? I asked whether they provide a real GFE for that kind of money, as in BBFS or BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, yet you have not answered. You open that post suggesting that you are about to respond to our posts, but you don't.
Our days of trying to impress other men in the club with the hot girl we convinced to go with us are way over. Well, for most of us. Is that the "bitterness" you mentioned? That we simply care about what the girl DOES in the room rather than how hot she or you or the other guys in the club thinks she looks on the way out the door? Weird. Without that critical detail factored into the deal, you have absolutely nothing of value to trade with me.
If a major part of your "game" is that you were born an Asian man and frequent clubs where the girls far prefer or perhaps even exclusively go with Asian men rather than go to clubs (or countries) where the girls don't give a damn whether you're Asian or not, please give us non Asians the intel and tips you think could possibly apply to our sad plight.Yes Monkeypaw, do tell, was rimming on the menu with these high dollar gals? CIM? COF? MSOG? Did she talk dirty? Stick her finger in your keister? As we have stated, if she does not perform, she is of no use to us no matter how good looking she is. And for most of us experience tells us that with Thai gals, the better looking, the less they are willing to do. We don't need notches in our belts, we don't need to feed our egos, or have an impressive photo to show our friends; we need good looking nasty gals, who like sex (or at least do a good job pretending), and perform. And for that we are more than willing to pay.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-30-17, 16:49
Guys,
I did read it somewhere in one of the threads of Bangkok about a bar where you can pickup girls without risking getting a LB. Apparently this bar is located in Shukumvit road somewhere near Terminal 21 and the entrance is a bit hidden under another hotel entrance. Outside lots of LB standing but inside there are part-time WGs whom one can negotiate prices with.
I did RTFF but could not find that post. Would any of you kind mongers help me out and give me the name / location of this place. I will be in BKK next week and would like to check it out.Basement of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel between Soi 13 and Soi 15 on Sukhumvit Road.
Basement of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel between Soi 13 and Soi 15 on Sukhumvit Road.And it's called Thermae.
Member #4591
11-30-17, 17:38
Sorry, I haven't had the time to respond back to some of these postings. I figured what I originally posted was going to ruffle up some feathers. It always does because no matter what ISG is supposed to be a platform for (advice and sharing intel), there is always going to be dudes with ego on here that talk down about others because they have NO game. And when they have NO game, they make up an excuse that "there is no such thing as game" when it comes for pay for play. To those with that attitude, THANK YOU! Without guys like you, there wouldn't be guys like me. Still, if you don't think there is any 'game" required. Ask yourself, Why did she go with him and not me? Why did they let those Indian guys in Baccara, but told the other ones "Member Only?" Why did my friend get better service from the same girl I bar fined previously? And on and on.
I've been mongering and hanging out with Phazze93 and SilverSurfer for the past few days. Collectively, we agreed that it's better to ignore some of these angry or bitter guys on ISG that. Let's say "have restricted access" to the hotter and prettier girls. And because of their limitations and lack of game, they down play the quality of the girls, and get angry at other guys for over paying etc. Etc. Of course, there is no fault with themselves, and everyone and everything else is to blame. So us three guys were in search of where to find the hottest Thai girls in the P4 P industry. Rainbow 2 and Baccara are the 2 Go Go bars known for let's say the better crop of good looking girls in Bangkok. And yes they are biased. At this point, some of these members on here would disagree, but their opinion is unimportant. The girls in the industry will tell you that they are the top 2, not the customers. I will post more about them later, but having milked that scene and having been with all the hotter girls in those clubs, I was ready to move on..Dude, take a chill pil. I commend you for fucking hot girls and not giving a flying fuck about how much you need to pay to do it. On the other hand, I will say only 1 thing. If you are polite, respectful, generous, and don't smell bad, you can pay to fuck the most besiriful P4P girls in Thailand with absolutely no game. If you want to call being respectful, polite, generous, and having good hygiene game, then so be it, but in my eyes, it's not game at all. It's mutual respect for the ladies. End of story.
RahulMangla2009
11-30-17, 17:56
Awesome. Thanks dude! What's the website for tony BKK? I am just unable to find it on google.
I would suggest you to try levels lounge or insanity, both are nearby. Good clubs and nice music, insanity goes on till 4 am. Another option is Spasso in grand Hyatt Erawan, girls dress up in little sophisticated but music sucks and its bit suitable for mid age person. Mixx is also nice but they usually doesn't allow Indian and Arabic people, there preferred client tally is whites.
Regarding escorts you can try tony BKK, they have a nice collection. I would suggest you to better go for clubs rather than picking up escorts.
Monkeypaw: Your age and willingness to spend definitely helps your cause. But I've got to give to you credit. Although I disagree with most of the things you say, the girl in the fifth and sixth pic is indeed stunning. Is she is gogo girl or an after hour club girl?
Here are my 3 real girls to put up. All 3 have breast implants and are slim by the way.I like all 3 of those girls.
I like all 3 of those girls.Would you still be interested in hooking up with them if it turns out A-Level service and BBBJ+CIM are very likely not on the table with them at any price or any known level of game? If you read Monkeypaw's posts carefully, I think you might see that his screenings of these girls do not result in weeding out the slackers on those activities and perhaps more than just those.
StinkyFeet
12-01-17, 08:37
The Lord is one place. But the rich locals don't use the sauna they play in the KTV.
Other places are night clubs such as the defunct secret city. Only bottle service. So majority of men don't want to be troubled by it because of the initial high cost. Also chance the girl won't come out with you. But these clubs by far blow away any gogo sauna joint in Bangkok. It's too bad it's never been reviewed. Service I heard from rich locals is "just like your GF". Nothing professional here.
The Lord is one place. But the rich locals don't use the sauna they play in the KTV.
Other places are night clubs such as the defunct secret city. Only bottle service. So majority of men don't want to be troubled by it because of the initial high cost. Also chance the girl won't come out with you. But these clubs by far blow away any gogo sauna joint in Bangkok. It's too bad it's never been reviewed. Service I heard from rich locals is "just like your GF". Nothing professional here.The high end soapies used to have great looking women. Before Lord opened, Poseidon had a great rep. I forget which floor at Poseidon had the better girls but it was a higher floor. I believe they had fishbowls on the second and 3rd floor as well. Only went there once and loved it, never been to Lord. Will visit Lord on my next trip even if just for the eye candy. I also had great times at the Plaza Entertainment complex. Not the taxi ripoff Cupidy in the basement but there were two soapies in the attached building. One on the 2nd floor which had beautiful girls and another one on the 6th floor which I believe was called Delila. Both of these were great. There is a gentleman's club which also has beauties called Penthouse or something similar. Never been there but I am guessing it is still open.
I don't hear anything about Poseidon any more. Is Poseidon still open?
Guys,
I did read it somewhere in one of the threads of Bangkok about a bar where you can pickup girls without risking getting a LB. Apparently this bar is located in Shukumvit road somewhere near Terminal 21 and the entrance is a bit hidden under another hotel entrance. Outside lots of LB standing but inside there are part-time WGs whom one can negotiate prices with.
I did RTFF but could not find that post. Would any of you kind mongers help me out and give me the name / location of this place. I will be in BKK next week and would like to check it out.Guys,
I typically get Toyota and more often than not get the performance of BMW. Bu that's not the point.
Newbie in BKK scene needs help, anybody?
Would you still be interested in hooking up with them if it turns out A-Level service and BBBJ+CIM are very likely not on the table with them at any price or any known level of game? If you read Monkeypaw's posts carefully, I think you might see that his screenings of these girls do not result in weeding out the slackers on those activities and perhaps more than just those.I don't care so much about CIM because I like to cum on their face or tits, but BBBJ, ass rimming, and BBFS are a must. Otherwise, I wouldn't want them for any price. But if they provide that, they are worth 3,000 baht short time for sure. Cute girls.
Member #4733
12-01-17, 11:41
Would you still be interested in hooking up with them if it turns out A-Level service and BBBJ+CIM are very likely not on the table with them at any price or any known level of game? If you read Monkeypaw's posts carefully, I think you might see that his screenings of these girls do not result in weeding out the slackers on those activities and perhaps more than just those.Yes, very much so.
I do value MonkeyPaw's contributions. He may be boasting a bit too much, but he provided valuable info to a question. He showed pictures and acknowledged he didn't know about the Lord's before. So he is open. I prefer beautiful girls to high performing girls. I simply don't like rimming, I don't like BBFS and more of these services by the 'high performers'. So, that info is of little value to me. Knowing where the best looking girls are is of great value. I have been to Baccara and got infatuated. After that first time, I went back there each day I was in Bkk. No matter how busy the place is, I have always found a place to sit and marvel at the beauties.
Member #4733
12-01-17, 11:56
The Lord is one place. But the rich locals don't use the sauna they play in the KTV.
Other places are night clubs such as the defunct secret city. Only bottle service. So majority of men don't want to be troubled by it because of the initial high cost. Also chance the girl won't come out with you. But these clubs by far blow away any gogo sauna joint in Bangkok. It's too bad it's never been reviewed. Service I heard from rich locals is "just like your GF". Nothing professional here.Yeah nothing about these Night clubs around here. I went to the Pimp once. I suited up. Still I had to pay double the normal entry price, about 125 Euro's worth if I remember it well. Normal entry price is steep but you get drinks. OK. But double that amount? No way. I asked them to call a taxi. The guy was very proud that he got that farang barred from his precious club. Just before entering the taxi I told him the amount of money I would have spent if the night would be like the Youtube video's. His face changed for the worse. I still would like to go there once just to see the most beautiful girls. But not at a double price.
On Google I found a message by a guy telling his 'GF' took a runner after he barfined her. So, maybe that is not a good idea. But a string of beautiful girls will never bore me and is worth paying for.
HornyBabaji
12-01-17, 12:51
Awesome. Thanks dude! What's the website for tony BKK? I am just unable to find it on google.Tony BKK doesn't have website, but you can google about her and contact her on watts app, and she will share the photos. If you have pm I can send you her number.
HornyBabaji
12-01-17, 13:05
If these are the type of quality of girls you want. Then they work at the higher end Go Go bars and then they party and look for their long time customers at Scratch Dog or the Hanker Club. Advice, both of those clubs can make any non Asian feel out of place. So go with someone who knows the ropes and is a regular. The poster above is incorrect about MIXX. Their preferred client is any race that doesnt wear shorts and willing to pay for bottle service and spend about 5000 baht and up. Do that and the security staff and bouncers will keep bringing girls to your table. Act like a boss instead of a sex tourist and you will get what you want. Just ask and tip well...For your information I am well dressed urban guy and usually take VIP table which cost 12500 baht. Waiters and bouncers do serve me nicely and know me as a generous tipper. I score by myself only because usually waiters can't get you top end girls. As far as Mixx is concerned, those guys don't apply any logic, and would be welcoming whites in shorts and denying certain nationalities in a rude manner, asking for bottle is fine but having prejudice and straight away without discussing they told me 'for members' in a rude way. That's not done and secondly you can't have a judgment on my opinion and experience.
Member #4698
12-01-17, 14:39
Without a doubt the Lord is my favorite soapy in BKK as many of my ISG friends know. This is an expenisive, 1st class bordello. Everyone should no this before walking through the front door. The minimum priced Lord girl is an "R" category round couch girl with a no negotiation price of 4800 baht.
I would characterize Lord service as enthusiastic naughty which is somewhere in-between GFE and PSE (porn star exp.). What does enthusiastic naughty mean? I am glad you asked. It includes a friendly sexy enthusiastic girl who provides A) unrestricted DFK, B1) multiple BBBJ's (1) on the bed while waiting for the Jacuzzi, 2) in the Jacuzzi, 3) back on the bed before boom boom), B2) 69's as long as you want, C) rimming with most girls but not all, D) no rush, any position coitus. As far as CIM service, I don't know because I don't care, but I would hazard a no with most girls. And as far as anal service, again I don't know because I don't care but I would hazard a no with most girls unless the customer offered more $$ This is what distinguishes enthusiastic naughty from PSE IMHO.
The reason I don't view this type of service as naughty GFE is because although Lord girls are very friendly in the loom, I have up to this posting, not been able to arrange a date outside of their brothel with any of them and to me GFE is an extended short time liaison or faux dating experience that includes dinner, drinks before and after, so spending 3, 4, 5 hours together (an evening) and one shot, which is what ALL my repeat Go Go girls are happy providing me at no additional service or tip charge is the requirement to be categorized as GFE as far as I am concerned. I do tip between 300 baht and 500 baht per girl per night for this friendly, happy, satisfying service.
In all my visits to the Lord I have spotted only a couple of sideline girls that I might be willing to pay large for like the XX type girl Monkeypaw reported on. In both cases my spotting's came after a session so I was not so inclined. In one case the girl was so superb that I got a hold of Mamasan Susan and inquired about the girl and told Susan I wanted that girl on my next visit. I was happy to learn from Susan that the girl was not an xx girl and would only be 7000 baht. LOL lucky me! But unfortunately, I didn't see that girl again on later visits.
Look, we all have our price ceilings based on a variety of personal variables and tastes. This is why we should not argue about prices or criticize what someone pays as long as they are paying the stated market price of a girl in the specific venue and not a gouge price.
Without naming names, one of my ISG friends has a thing for young beautiful Korean girls. Here is a short story for you: The last time I was in Rio Sauna I was offered my choice of 2 Chinese and 2 Korean top of the line models. These girls were the best-looking girls I have ever seen in a P4 P situation. I rated all four girls 9* on looks and body which I almost never do and I was sorely tempted you better believe it. I was as sure as I could be that the service would have been enthusiastic naughty with rimming, body licking everywhere including the souls of my feet, fire and ice BJ and coitus having visited Rio sauna many, many times over the last 7 or 8 years. Price for this sexual indulgence: 3500 mop for the Chinese super models and 3800 mop for the Korean super models. I balked as I discovered my price ceiling was $427 and $463 respectively. But the point of my little tale is I harbor no ill feelings for another punter willing to pay up for these girls. In fact, I kind of respect his willingness to part with his hard earned cash for such a super beautiful girl. As George Best said, "I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
So Monkeypaw, I know the type of girl you selected in the Lord and I know the kind of service she most likely gave you. If you are happy, that is good enough for me. Good reportage.
I do value MonkeyPaw's contributions. He may be boasting a bit too much, but he provided valuable info to a question. He showed pictures and acknowledged he didn't know about the Lord's before. So he is open. I prefer beautiful girls to high performing girls. I simply don't like rimming, I don't like BBFS and more of these services by the 'high performers'. So, that info is of little value to me. Then you and anyone else who does not want BBBJ+CIM, BBFS, essentially anything associated with a penis finishing in an orifice instead of a condom would be exactly the kind of customer for whom Monkeypaw's opinion and game has value. No problem. Understood. And there is definitely a place for it here as much as anything else.
But he has been misrepresenting it to be that he can hook guys up with the "top" "quality" girls in Bangkok and that anyone who isn't only interested in the looks of the girls while not interested at all in engaging in what even the girls would generally consider real sex just doesn't know what he's talking about.
That is as much a misrepresentation as if I were to grandly announce these particular girls in this particular club give, without a doubt, the best BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, the best BBFS, the best A-Level service and any other kind of sex you can imagine, they are really the "top" "quality" girls in all of Bangkok. Of course, you can't be afraid to pay big Thai money for it too, you low rent losers. Then let's say I adamantly resist mentioning or replying to repeated questioning about it that they also all happen to look remarkably like English Bulldogs. I mean head, face, body, right down to the tail; English Bulldogs. Further, when the question of how they look is pressed more and more, maybe I would start accusing the questioners of having NO game, just angry and bitter losers whose opinions don't matter. Only my opinion matters. Gee, it always happens like this when I point out how great my game is compared with their NO game; feathers get ruffled, egos bruised and crushed. Hey, guys, get over it already. My English Bulldog-looking girls are the "top" "quality" girls in all of Thailand because they give the best sex and that is the end of it!
If I did that I would richly deserve some serious pushback until I came clean on that major missing detail about my opinion and game, wouldn't you say? And so did he, that's all.
StinkyFeet
12-02-17, 05:50
Poseidon is still around. Last time I went to the top allowable floor. Saw three hot girls. Stunner categories. Lord has five times more off these types of girls. Defunct secret city. This was their standard.
The high end soapies used to have great looking women. Before Lord opened, Poseidon had a great rep. I forget which floor at Poseidon had the better girls but it was a higher floor. I believe they had fishbowls on the second and 3rd floor as well. Only went there once and loved it, never been to Lord. Will visit Lord on my next trip even if just for the eye candy. I also had great times at the Plaza Entertainment complex. Not the taxi ripoff Cupidy in the basement but there were two soapies in the attached building. One on the 2nd floor which had beautiful girls and another one on the 6th floor which I believe was called Delila. Both of these were great. There is a gentleman's club which also has beauties called Penthouse or something similar. Never been there but I am guessing it is still open.
I don't hear anything about Poseidon any more. Is Poseidon still open?
Monkeypaw: Your age and willingness to spend definitely helps your cause. But I've got to give to you credit. Although I disagree with most of the things you say, the girl in the fifth and sixth pic is indeed stunning. Is she is gogo girl or an after hour club girl?I'm in Pattaya now hanging out with some like-minded members of ISG. That's why I don't care to waste my time with responding to some of these posters who really make themselves look bad and like fools. I proposed that we all share some of our girls, so that we perhaps can be lucky and have access to what we normally cannot. But FIRST post what you have and are willing to share to all. But instead, the focus went on directly to me and my girls. These girls I posted are what I consider my "above average pretty girls. " I wanted to see what talent could be shared so I can keep working my way up to "movie star" looking girls that another member has. My goal is to have access to these types and let my "GAME" dictate how far my mileage may vary. But instead I get some responses from these fools who share nothing and want bareback full service, CIM, ass fucking, cum in nostril. All for the cheapest price. I guess that is the normal response from those who realize they are not in my league and realize that they have no chance at these girls if left to themselves. It's like me knowing I can't be with any of the a Victoria Secrets models, so I say "If I can't bareback them and CIF and CIM, then it's not worth it. Funny.
Last night, I was hanging with Silver Surfie on Walking Street. Wherever we went, the staff kept pointing to me and said "like God. " Thats the rep you get when you can walk into a Go Go Bar, it be crowded and full. And you can get the staff to move Tue customers to give you a seat... Yes even the Japanese at Baccara. Ask Phazze93 and Silver Surfer. Im pretty sure deep down inside, you know who or what I am. I spend 10 months out of the year in Pattaya and Bangkok for partying and girls. I don’t work. Don’t need a work visa, or any other extended visa. So I think I know what I’m talking about if not, I’m always willing to learn from those to better my game. But dont have time to play around with peons- M.
PS- To the poster that asked... She is freelancer. Hangs out at Hanker Bar and sometimes Thermae occasionally.
bareback full service, CIM, ass fucking, cum in nostril. All for the cheapest price.Dude, that's awesome intel! Please share contact info if you don't mind.
So where is your girls to share for us all? Didn't think so. You talk a lot of smack,but havent posted and pics of girls you are willing to share. Must be one of those something for nothing type. ISG is all waiting for you to share something. Like I said. "put up or shut up. " You sound like a bitter old man. You should probably ask Silver Surfie what happened, but seems like you already know. Which is fucking amazing, for somebody who wasn't there. Seriously, why are you on this board since you know EVERYTHING. All I know is that, I'm in Walking Street hanging out with Silver Surfie tonight with a 30,000 baht budget. I have a condo without any restriction to guests or how many. It's going to be a good night for me. Have fun responding back. Enjoy.A better question is why are you still begging us to hook you up with our girls if your game and results are so god-like? LOL.
I have real sex with my girls, meaning BBFS at a minimum. You were amazed by finding yourself in a place where the girls you thought you had sex with were fine with handing you over to another girl in the group without jealousy, right? The reason for that is they only vaguely consider covered anything and everything that would otherwise result in a penis finishing into an orifice to be real sex. There is no territoriality in their consideration of you as a sex partner because they know what they've had with you is so lacking in true intimacy they barely regard it as real sex. I realize you think you had real sex with those girls. But they don't exactly see it that way. And that isn't what happens with me and my girls. Consequently, I will not be passing along contact information for the girls who give me real sex no matter how much you beg me to on the easy assumption that at some point you will pull that out of your hat as leverage to get them to do the same for you.
However, if I meet and pay for some girl who still gives me a wonderful sexual experience for any amount money but without actually having it end with me finishing for real into an orifice of hers, I will surely pass along that information to you so you can enjoy the same thing. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that if I were you.
Heading to BKK for a week of fun. Would love your help identify the best of the following.
1. Soapie / Nuru.
2. BJ Bar.
3. Massage with FS.
4. GoGO Bar.
5. Beer bar with a view.
Guys,
I typically get Toyota and more often than not get the performance of BMW. Bu that's not the point.
Newbie in BKK scene needs help, anybody?Your question has already been answered in post #40918 and #40919.
Monkeypaw, many of us have been regular contributors to this forum for years. When we read statements like, "Act like a boss and not a sex tourists" and about a monger having "game;" sorry, but it makes us chuckle as we've seen it before. Now, if she and her friends are paying for the bottle, and taking you home and doinking you for free; I'll gladly concede that you have "game. " And give you a deep bow of respect. Better man than I. Otherwise it is she that has game. Why? It's her job to read you and give you what you want in order to extract what she wants. If she sense you have an ego and want to feel like you have "game," then that is the way she will play it. She's done this many times before. Why do you think she is not interested in dudes who have lived here for a time and dudes that speak really good Thai? Because we are not going to play the game. She's not going to get a free night out with her friends drinking 5 k a bottle whisky or the big bucks for what we would probably consider mediocre performance. She's going to get a dude who is going to say, I am going to pay you x and I expect x in return.
Asian guys, be they from this side of the planet or from the US have different requirements than most of the non-Asians on this forum. Many tend to want their ego validated and having what they consider a "pretty" girl and having the game to get her is that validation. And there is nothing wrong with that. Hung out with a bunch of Singaporean dudes in Batam years ago. And even though they were older, 40-60 they were constantly stroking each other's egos about their condos, jobs, gals etc. Never ribbing each other (sorry, had to sub for prohibited word). Not once. I found it very tedious and boring, but they were friendly dudes every time I was with them. Friend was in CH the other night and it was full of Koreans. Gals would just walk up to them and demand a drink and they would acquiesce without so much as a nicety from the gal. Most Western mongers would not put up with that for a minute. One poor young dude was surrounded by 3 gals who were bleeding him dry. I would contend that this has had a profoundly negative effect on the scene. Well, that among other things.
Ego means nothing to the majority of guys on this board. We've been in the P4 P scene since before you even knew your pecker had two purposes. And one day you will be middle aged and then old as well. We're not interested in conquests nor seeing what our "game" can get us; we're interested in what she looked like, her attitude, what she does, how she performed, if she is dick-scared as Syz so well puts it, and how much it costs. We all have different price levels and many of us are more than willing to pay quite a bit to a looker who gives a full on GFE, or in my case a PSE with all that comes along with it. So, yes, although some of the gals you posted look like LBs, some are quite hot, and if providing excellent service would certainly be worth my Baht. So, please do tell. But also, please leave the boasting out of it. We are all willing to share experiences, but we don't stroke each other and indeed that won't win you any friends here. Who you are and what you are makes no difference to us. How you are, what you have to contribute, and how you treat others on the forum does.
Pattaya 30 K! Really man, You could spend of third of that in three days and have two gals a day and a wonderful time. But, it's your cash. Hope it is worth it to you.
Last night, I was hanging with Silver Surfie on Walking Street. Wherever we went, the staff kept pointing to me and said "like God. " Thats the rep you get when you can walk into a Go Go Bar, it be crowded and full. And you can get the staff to move Tue customers to give you a seat... Yes even the Japanese at Baccara. Ask Phazze93 and Silver Surfer.ROTFLMAO. In my experience the staff in an agogo will always move other customers (even Japanese) if that is necessary to give you a seat. Has happened to me many times and I never had to ask for it, like you had.
Im pretty sure deep down inside, you know who or what I am. I spend 10 months out of the year in Pattaya and Bangkok for partying and girls. I dont work. Dont need a work visa, or any other extended visa. So I think I know what Im talking about if not, Im always willing to learn from those to better my game. But dont have time to play around with peons- M.
Yes, deep down inside I know what you are but I'm afraid I'll get banned from this forum if I say it out loud.
Anyway, seems like we are dealing with a spoiled arrogant rich kid here folks.
Monkeypaw is winding you guys up.
Nobody could say the stuff he is saying and expect anyone to believe it.
Oh wait a minute; the POTUS does this too.
I guess it's possible after all.
Yes, deep down inside I know what you are but I'm afraid I'll get banned from this forum if I say it out loud.
Anyway, seems like we are dealing with a spoiled arrogant rich kid here folks.As an expat here, I often run into 3 types of other expats. 1. Those who work locally here. 2. Those who work remotely (programmers) 3. Rich kids passing through on their party month (s). I honestly hate the rich trust fund kids, but only because of experience. They have the bad rep they have because they earned it. They are huge loud douche bags with everything to prove about their "business" (ie: mommy and daddy bucks). It's like living in the shadow of their parents success has caused them such an inferiority complex with their peers (to varying levels, some have it only a little bit and it's cute but others it's douche bag levels of pompous behavior and it's annoying in certain social circles for obvious reasons).
Monkeypaw is winding you guys up.
Nobody could say the stuff he is saying and expect anyone to believe it.
Oh wait a minute; the POTUS does this too.
I guess it's possible after all.I did consider the possibility he was a troll.
I did consider the possibility he was a troll.Off course he is a troll. We have seen so many.
Uncle Volodya
12-02-17, 13:35
One mans' trash in another's treasure and we are all looking for different things.
One guy is happy with pretty standard FS ST as long as the girl is a 10/10 in his eyes.
Another may be more interested in getting PSE service and saving his Baht than in finding a girl who looks like a Thai TV star.
Syzgies, BKKDogg, Greatscoat and EihTooms have all provided valuable info in the past that I've been able to capitalize on in the past and I am grateful to them for their contributions on this board.
MonkeyPaw provides some valuable info on venues like Scratch Dogg and Hanker Club that I am unfamiliar with and some strategies for success a these venues-- though I could definitely do without some of his braggadocio comments denigration other members.
Gentleman. Let's get back to the info of providing actionable intelligence and refrain from judging each others choices and tastes.
You are out of luck in Bangkok when you say curvy like Kim Kardashian and Nikki Minaj. This isn't that type of place. Even the African women that I seen here are not particularly curvy like those women you described. Your best bet is searching for girls with big breast. Asses are non-existent here. I found that girls were more curvy in Indonesia then they are in Bangkok but still not on the level you described. I just recently got back from India and I was able to find a few African stunners with natural bodies like you described but nothing comparable in the four countries I visited on this trip (India, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia). You want curvy, head to south America where you will get stunners for half the prices of these women, better bodies and faces as well.
Those of you who have used Smoochi, is there anything similar for us African / Dark skin lovers? Or at least something for people who like curvy and voluptuous women? I'm lazy as fuck, how can I get in touch with either African or super curvy ladies online? I'm talking Kim Kardashian or Niki Minaj curves.
You are out of luck in Bangkok when you say curvy like Kim Kardashian and Nikki Minaj. This isn't that type of place. Even the African women that I seen here are not particularly curvy like those women you described. Your best bet is searching for girls with big breast. Asses are non-existent here. I found that girls were more curvy in Indonesia then they are in Bangkok but still not on the level you described. I just recently got back from India and I was able to find a few African stunners with natural bodies like you described but nothing comparable in the four countries I visited on this trip (India, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia). You want curvy, head to south America where you will get stunners for half the prices of these women, better bodies and faces as well.While Global is correct, I won't say that it is impossible to find the curves. I've seen a few hang out nearly outside Thermae and close to McD.
Although you will definitely not find a Kim or Niki here, you're better off finding a good Thai with bigger tits to quench your thirst.
If maybe you scout Suk sois a bit, you may find what you're looking for. But don't cross your fingers and pray.
The Mad Daddy
12-02-17, 15:57
Monkey's Paw,
I quite enjoy your posts and appreciate your detailed accounts and contentious theories based on your own testimony and photos etc. On the need for so-called game to get the girl you want, to perhaps unintentionally quote the band Devo. Hats off to you and the girls you want. That said, it seems to me it is up to you as the bargirls were, once upon a time, won't to say as to whether you need to game them or not. I apologize in advance if perhaps I am rather outrageously long winded here, and perhaps longer on the wind than on the content but I think it is quite an interesting matter to consider- to game or not to game, so if you would please kindly humor me or feel free not to read a perhaps overly long and perhaps even unwarranted treatise on the topic of the need to game gogo girls. But if you do not appreciate all of my jinglings perhaps others would enjoy or not enjoy it just the same.
In my own case, I've been mongering at a low intensity pretty constantly in Thailand since 1997. I lived in Bangkok from 1999 till 2011 and still live in Thailand up country and so still mozy into town a few times a year and still can't seem to entirely stay away from Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong and the freelancer scenes such as Nana parking lot, Thermae, the discos etc. Like most people similar to myself in age and experience, I feel it's all not nearly as good as it used to be but still rewarding enough to want to go out most nights I'm in town and see what I can get into.
I would, I guess, for lack of any better word that comes to mind, categorize myself as a bit of a dork, not really a nerd, too goofy looking to classify as that but who has always seemed to be able to manage to pique the interest, at least to a degree, of about 1/2 the girls that I like and chance upon to meet in Thailand and by that I mean regular girls. Tho now in my 50's, that level has tailed off considerably, but I have recently improved my fashion sense, I think, even if it is a tad on the eccentric, outlandish and outrageous side, I have a rather wild, unkempt yet coiffured or semi-arranged ball of hair on my head, twenty pound horn rim glasses, a rather ridiculously long nose and a rather jangly demeanour and way of nervously walking much too quickly yet with a mouth breather's rather daft expression all clashing with my blindingly loud colored pimp-looking shirts and when I do wear them, ties. Neath all the twinkling lights, cravats, and gold lame sashes I keep clean, smelling good and stay in good physical shape so depsite my rather unusual appearance and my age I reckon I look better to these girls than as much as 80 percent of the other guys my own age if I do say so myself. Most westerners are just, "Oh my god, you are so over the top. Are you gay?" No I am not gay, I just don't gray and a shaved head and try and keep up with Bruce Willis. I have never been particularly popular or well liked by men or women back home, I used to ask my friends when I was in my teens and twenties, "Why do you think it is nobody likes me or wants to hire me at Paramount Pictures or Geffen Records, and especially the girls?" And they say "Well, Mad Daddy, ya know its kind of like your are just too much for everybody too much color, too much Jim Carry and not a s funny and talking too much, and too much noise, too much information and in bad taste too man! Dood, people just want a sandwich and you are like 8 course meal of highly challenging unheard of cream sauces and dishes with sizzling varieties of mussels nobody's heard of before and beef tongue in orange-raisin sauce flambe man, I mean like jesszus do ya have a volume knob in there somewhere guy?! And besides you're a mouth breather and nobody likes a mouth breather. It just makes ya look stupid! But don't worry, I love ya still!" I don't care anymore that was all water under the bridge decades ago anyway, but just to give you the idea that I am not Mr. Smooth Operator by any stretch. To me, most people are no fun and way too conservative considering we only live once as ourselves in this time and I think it often works in my favor in Asia, it seems to me they are bored of Mr. Seriously Sincere from Connecticut or Sydney or the Hampton who's come here to Thailand to create a business start up and have all the pussy he can guzzle on tap on his day off and eventually snag a bar girl put her in a hamster tank and send her to the lion tamer so he can eventually find her acceptable enough to marry and subsequently sport her on his arm at the anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) NGO convention at the local church when he decides to pack in and that Thailand wasn't all he thought was cracked up to be after all.
All that aside, and to finally at last return to the main focus of this post, (gasp!) I can't say as I have ever had much of any need for game in my entire 20 year gogo crawling career, and don't want to either particularly. To me, that is the whole point of going to see hookers is that we can leave the whole headache of game behind. To me that's a large part of the appeal of gogo bars and the like, I don't enjoy the challenge of gaming some woman and frankly feel it is manipulative and worry that eventually there is pay back for deceiving people, if only mildly, into sleeping with you when actually maybe they'the rather be texting their friends while lying on the sofa at home, and I suppose I probably have a lazy streak, not that I don't try to be well liked, well dressed and polite wherever I go, but I think all of that is not what they call game.
I'm a bit like that guy Syzigies who posts on here a lot, tho I am sure I am not nearly as awesome or studly or wealthy as he is —haha!— but like him I stay here long time and like him have the luxury of getting to know girls over the long haul and I too like to keep a shortlist of girls I can depend on for a good time. I like feeling that I have friends or fuckbuddies or giks I suppose, so for me its about chemistry at first and then developing some degree of friendship as time goes by as opposed to just racking up a notch or a simple wham bam thank you mam. To me that is all much more fun. I love going out and wondering who it is I will run into and be able to party with and if the mood strikes take out with a bar fine. That said there are girls I don't get on with that well yet with whom I have to have at least a short time session with, they are those ones who, you know, are simply that scorchingly hot, and in most cases I can get that set up with nothing more than the right price at the right time and at worst simply a bit of patience and persistence thrown in for good measure, no game needed.
Tho' of course as we all do, I do get some knock backs from bar girls, but it never occurs to me that I would be refused outright in the end and refused utterly and absolutely for ever by anyone I really had to have, and the way I see it, the knockback is more about their expressing that no, perhaps they aren't interested in westerners or my typer or no in a whimsical sort of impulsive way refusing just because they can or perhaps the knockback is about their just being a bit tired of dealing with customers at the moment. But, that is of no concern to me, I'm not interested in women who aren't up to it that evening or who don't particularly care for me and my personality, looks, ethnicity, style etc. So again, for me another reason that game doesn't really serve my purposes. I would add to that that once I have at least bought a lady drink and had a chat with a girl, the next time I drop by a bar, they are the ones going after me, sometimes to my consternation if I have my sights set on someone else. I don't think I am special in that regard either, once the girls see that I am more than willing to meet their rather minimal demands, they will go after me next time unless they are previously busy and even in some cases they may abandon the other guy and hang out with me if he doesn't seem like a good one to them. So again the need for game becomes superfluous, they just want their needs met and they don't entirely trust most men they don't know to do that. There is no need to game them as far as I can see, the bar in many cases will frown on the girls refusing at least a drink with someone for no good reason. The bar is doing the work for you, no need to persuade the girl to chat with you and see you are a pretty good customer or even a cool guy. I can think of only one chick who after having gone short time a few times with me and subsequently seeing me for a number of years suddenly began rejecting me and pretending not to see me. Shit happens, so I have no idea what that was about I could think of a million likely reasons, most likely perhaps because she was endowed with some of the most drool worthy pendulous papayas on an utterly tight fit body known to man and thus wildly popular for years at the Soi Cowboy bar where she used to swing those holy wonders for some years. I can imagine some girls really just reach a point where they have to draw lines and it is nothing that game is going to overcome, it will just boil down to chemistry and how much money they feel they can get out of you. I can understand that this woman would have been able to choose among tens of thousands of guys exactly her speck. No matter, she gladly went with me several times and I enjoyed it and all good things will come to an end. I don't regret that I have no game and so was unable to get her to start paying attention to me again. I don't mean to make the bargirls sound mercenary or heartless, for me their needs do not preclude some degree of friendship but money is the bottom line to be sure. You either accept that or not and go from there. I would rather that be the case than I had to be the slickest gamer who ever pulled one on them in all their born days. The hottest girls soon become the most experienced and I would imagine they would blow by game like it was nothing anyway, because your game and its tightness is not the reason they are out there shaking it. Game is secondary at best, you just have to be there and be a decent enough guy about it and paying up.
There are a few, usually incredibly popular and busy girls, who ignore my beckoning but it is rare that I do that and not to the point where I say, gee, I better get my game going or I'll be going home alone again. Again, I don't imagine I am particularly exceptional in this regard but I know that once I break the ice with most of these girls, the kind who think that at first glance I am not their type or perhaps the type who won't give them what they want, they will, after two or three times of a short drink and a chat begin to come around once they see I can make them laugh a bit and am not averse to most of their demands such as a drink or two for a co-worker or a tip and before you know it, she will gladly go short time. That's sort of a worst case scenario where there is someone I got to have and she imagines she has some other options that may or may not be better than me. Maybe what I just described as to how I deal with more difficult girls is game, I don't think so, it's just normal human socializing that needs to be done for many people to feel comfortable enough to want to jump in the sack with each other, is the way I see it. And of course some girls are just bang into going to the short time room, straightaway if that's what you want.
As counter to all I have said though, I would concede that there is a certain type of girl who is wound quite tight. By that I mean, among other things, that perhaps by entering the bar scene she is making perhaps a rather heavy handed play to land herself a multi-millionaire geek or husband. And yes, I think some of that stripe of girl are among those I would say are quite hot, but to me they just are too much about business and have no overreaching appeal to me at all. They just look to me to be too stern, too irritated about everything not being just so and by that basically no fun. And I can imagine that with some of these girls you would likely have to game them, because they are looking for something extraordinary, they are determined and if they are smart, sure, like most western women they are going to test you and part of that test is to see if you are clever enough to game them. I don't know, maybe that's the type you target. In that case, yes then I would agree most people will need game. And I think unfortunately, or it is my impression at least that these rather not fun girls are increasing their numbers as there becomes more of an imperative to be rich and then get richer in Thai society. So perhaps on that I would say perhaps you have a point, Mr Monkeypaws. But at this point in time, despite the slimmer pickings, there are still plenty of insanely hot girls who are not bothered about landing Hugh Grant or Mark Zuckerberg at Nana plaza or bust, no pun intended.
I would also say that I don't include girls who have preemptively counted me out, such as girls who will only go with and. E. Asian customers etc. Such as many of the girls at Baccarra and nearly all of the girls at Thermae. But for me that is not a major bother anyway because I don't like the style those types of girls cultivate anyway the whitened skin, the girlish chubbiness and the so-called "ab-ell" girls as they call them in Thailand and the over-control of any kind of reactions, emotions, verbalizations or thoughts which are all understandable things to do as the girls have to adhere to certain cultural features of their targeted group of customers, but to me with all of their plastic surgery and silent motionlessness they turn themselves into plastic inflatable sex-puppets and for me I prefer having sex with other people to semi-animate iphone cyborgs. Sorry if I am being a bit blunt or maybe even a tad disrespectful, but I think some of these girls are really pretty dehumanized and especially the so-called Jap-centric girls. I like mostly ultra-foxy rough and tumble brown skinned loud mouthed bad girls with a bit of attitude and muscle tone and passion, something I imagine most Japanese, Koreans and Chinese are not on the prowl for particularly.
After 20 years, I can honestly say that the hottest girls I have ever seen in my life are some of the girls I have met on the scene in Bangkok and barfined. Despite all the signs indicating that things may soon flag off due to my advancing age and due to the scene changing, these mind blowingly hot girls have all been more than happy to enjoy my company and take my money without any game whatsoever going on. And I reiterate perhaps redundantly that I am talking about fit as all fuck, washboard waisted, wide hipped, thin, bubble butted, bee stung lipped, gravity defying breasted, hypnotically belly buttoned girls who like to fuck for money and who would cause buildings to burn down in California if they ever went there. People from California, where I am from originally, man or woman, alive or dead have no idea if they have never been to certain gogo bars in Bangkok on certain nights or been the fly on a wall in certain short time rooms. Lord have mercy. These girls I am talking about are the kind that when I call pant and gasp into the phone "Oh sorry darling I fuck too much today and yesterday I'm so tired (huff puff) I cannot come out to meet you tonight but tomorrow OK, darling? I miss you, jin jing, I'll see you tomorrow na? You don't forget me OK!" I mean I have at many points in my life over here just exclaimed aloud, voice trembling,"Good God what I have I done to deserve this?! I must have done something good in this life or a past life to have it this good and not have to struggle to game for a minute of these girls' time as I would in the states let alone be able to call them and arrange a screaming' fuck session or chance upon them at the bar and off we go. Like you, Monkey Paws, I am not interested in average looking girls. As much as I enjoy immensely their presence on the scene, I am not interested in bar fining beer keg bellied, snuggle toothed, corn COB pipe chaw in tequila slamming' mamas, bless their hearts!
I have also noticed that girls will give you time if they think you are genuinely whole hog interested and / or turned on by them. I have noticed that when girls become difficult it is very often because essentially, when I finally get around to checking myself, I find I wasn't really that head over heels bang into the chick to begin with. And I am not afraid to commit the cardinal sin of falling a bit in love with some of these girls either and generally I think that attitude helps a lot in getting some of the hotter girls to become at least mildly interested in me strange as it might seem. If I totally unambiguously dig some girl, I need no game, just a window of availability on her side and then its on. When they see you are really into them, or as much as anyone can be into someone who is fucking maybe 1000 guys a year and not being a possessive freak about it either, that is all the game you need if you ask me.
I think, Monkey's Paw, if you ever got fatigued from taking the gaming approach and wanted to just relax, you could and it would not turn out nearly as bad as you might think. I think a lot of girls here in Thailand respond well to chilled out, fun, polite, well dressed guys who don't feel averse to being even just a little bit generous and by that I don't mean being stupid about money either, in fact you will lose their respect if you are that way and you will find yourself being treated badly if you become too generous. Wasting money is not looked too kindly on in Thailand as counter-intuitive as that might sound.
Those of you who have used Smoochi, is there anything similar for us African / Dark skin lovers? Or at least something for people who like curvy and voluptuous women? I'm lazy as fuck, how can I get in touch with either African or super curvy ladies online? I'm talking Kim Kardashian or Niki Minaj curves.Go to Africa. That black poontang is dirt cheap and those girls have plenty of curves.
Your question has already been answered in post #40918 and #40919.Thanks man! This forum is so active I somehow missed the replied.
Feel free to PM me if you need help this part of the world.
Hi,
I know I should contribute more before asking for something. But I just needed to know if anybody had any info on foreign WG's in BKK. Not Africans / Russians but Koreans / Japanese / Chinese / TW / Indos.
Making my usual tour to BKK after I scraped Indo plans (after Alexis shutdown, didn't want to risk it. Would've loved 2 spend everyday at Malio but I guess that's for the summer now). Anyways wanted to experience more than just Thai chicks and see if there was anything more.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Those of you who have used Smoochi, is there anything similar for us African / Dark skin lovers? Or at least something for people who like curvy and voluptuous women? I'm lazy as fuck, how can I get in touch with either African or super curvy ladies online? I'm talking Kim Kardashian or Niki Minaj curves.Try seekingarrangement dating/Sugar Daddy-Sugar Baby site. You can sign up and browse for free but in order to see more private pics, send, read and reply to messages, it runs about $80 USD per month with discounts for longer periods down to about $60 per month I think. I have never paid but know other guys who do and their results seem to be pretty good. I signed up (free) and placed some photos and a profile there just to check it out about a year ago and occasionally get fairly attractive, curvy African girls living in Bangkok sending me Viewed or Favorited emails among the usual mix of Thai and other Asian girls who click on my profile almost daily.
I never browse and click on profiles myself other than to click back and view the pics and profiles of the Sugar Babies who clicked on me but I assume there must be quite a few African and dark skinned girls in Bangkok or wherever you are at the moment to click on and arrange a meeting. One guy I know sets up many dates and meetings with girls on that site before he arrives in Bangkok on holiday and is kept quite busy with them, sexually that is, on an almost 2-3 per day basis for weeks at a time.
Actually, I have seen several very curvy African freelancers strolling around from Sukhumvit Soi 4 and 3 to Asoke. Levels of attractiveness can vary wildly, of course. By 10 PM or so it seems the favorite area for them to congregate is at the outside tables along Soi 7 as you turn the corner from Sukhumvit to head toward Beer Garden Soi 7. Tons of them at those tables on the left side, flagging over and inviting men to join them and start negotiating. For "lazy" guys who are at least willing to walk the area but would prefer to sit down for the negotiation over a drink and a snack and, frankly, for those who don't relish the idea of standing on Sukhumvit Road proper to negotiate face to face with an African freelancer on the move in a crowd, that area is the place to go imo.
Member #4591
12-03-17, 12:00
Hi,
I know I should contribute more before asking for something. But I just needed to know if anybody had any info on foreign WG's in BKK. Not Africans / Russians but Koreans / Japanese / Chinese / TW / Indos.
Making my usual tour to BKK after I scraped Indo plans (after Alexis shutdown, didn't want to risk it. Would've loved 2 spend everyday at Malio but I guess that's for the summer now). Anyways wanted to experience more than just Thai chicks and see if there was anything more.
Thanks for the help in advance.I would suggest you look in the specific ISG Thailand thread that has that information. It covers all nationalities, not just Russians and Africans. Yiu can also look in We Chat which always has Vietnamese, Chinese, and recently a Korean. The Escort agencies also employ them and they like to go to Spasso and work. There are many Laos, Vietnamese, and Myanmar girls workimg in Bangkok. I've also seen them on Tinder too.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand
Agreed. This best you're going to find in Thailand. Not many options for what you are looking for. Can be had for 1500-2000. Faces were not bad but Nicki manj or Kim kardashian in anyway. And these asses were few and far in between in just got lucky looking for food.
While Global is correct, I won't say that it is impossible to find the curves. I've seen a few hang out nearly outside Thermae and close to McD.
Although you will definitely not find a Kim or Niki here, you're better off finding a good Thai with bigger tits to quench your thirst.
If maybe you scout Suk sois a bit, you may find what you're looking for. But don't cross your fingers and pray.
Still waiting for those to "put up or shut up. " In the meantime, 22, slim, natural boobs, freelancer from BKK. Maybe farang friendly she says, but definitely NOT "asshole or dipshit" friendly.
Other than that, for those like minded guys that PMed me with the idea of hunting together for higher end and pretty girls, I look forward to hanging out with you all and have messaged you back.
For these rest of the Cheapie Charlies, whose goal is to find that BBFS, CIM, CIF, ass fuck, fist in her pussy girl, who is a model or top tier in looks. All the while trying to lowball the price, good luck in your search for her or a fresh case of HIV! But seriously, you haven't shared shit, but sure do talk as if you know everything. - M.
For these rest of the Cheapie Charlies, whose goal is to find that BBFS, CIM, CIF, ass fuck, fist in her pussy girl, who is a model or top tier in looks. All the while trying to lowball the price, good luck in your search for her or a fresh case of HIV! But seriously, you haven't shared shit, but sure do talk as if you know everything. - M.It's always fun with these "who's got the biggest cock" concours here at ISG.
It's also fun that some are as stupid as MonkeyPaw, so they think that a high price protects them from HIV / AIDS. It's also funny that MonkeyPaw is so stupid that he try to belittle others because they better like PSE better than GFE.
Apart from that, there is a very beautiful girl on the pictures. Well done, MonkeyPaw. Good game, hehe.
I thought to cut the bitching and post a report of my experience at Hillary 4 (or was it 2 ?) 2 weeks ago.
I went out on a Friday night at about 11 pm At Hillary (the one with the Climax sign inside), and had a few beers.
Soon enough a few girls came to talk to me, but I have to say that the quality was average.
This cute girl was looking and smilling at me for a while but made no move towards me, in fact her friend came to ask me if I would join them for a beer because " my friend likes you but is a bit shy ".
I agreed and after a few more beers, I picked her up and went back to my hotel.
She was pretty good in bed, not the best ever, but very GFE.
She turned out to be a normal Thai girl (working in a clothes shop on Soi 22) enjoying a few beers with her friend on a Friday night after a week of hard work, looking for a guy if she can find someone she likes.
And she liked me.
After the deed, she said: " no money! If I go with someone I like, I don't want money ".
I didn't insist, paid breakfast and kissed her goodbye.
I didn't expect that at Hillary, most of the time I'm quoted 3000 B.
who is a model or top tier in looks.That girl isn't going to be doing much modeling with those crooked teeth, but thanks for sharing the pics.
Banana Boi
12-04-17, 04:47
I like that girl (with clothes on anyways). She's one of my types.
That girl isn't going to be doing much modeling with those crooked teeth, but thanks for sharing the pics.First you whine about why I wouldn't post pics of the girls that I thought were quality. I did.
After seeing the other photos, you bitched that they didn't offer bareback services with PSE.
Then you gawked are their prices and want to pay only 3000 baht all night long and until the next morning.
Now you bitched about their teeth and looks.
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This whole time, Smoothy, you still fail to post photos or want to share any quality girls that you have with anybody on this board. Just complain complain. Girls must love you!
For these rest of the Cheapie Charlies, whose goal is to find that BBFS, CIM, CIF, ass fuck, fist in her pussy girl, who is a model or top tier in looks. All the while trying to lowball the price, good luck in your search for her or a fresh case of HIV!That would be a goal worth shooting for; the best service for the lowest price. But where are the posts demanding those things and expecting to lowball the price any more than you say you do? I have said I might pay as much as you wind up having to pay IF there is some real sex in the deal and others mostly agreed with that sentiment. I think you are the only one who has been boasting about lowballing on price. Problem is, you get a lowball price (well, a deep discount off their ridiculously high asking price) and then you get service so lacking it would be unacceptably low to most of us for that or almost any price.
Maybe you aren't paying enough to get real sex with those girls. Even if we responded to your constant plea to hook you up with our girls, that doesn't mean you will be able to have real sex with them while paying as little was we do, if anything, you know.
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Thanks for introducing your girl's pussy to me with that note. I consider it quite an honor.
Still waiting for those to "put up or shut up. " In the meantime, 22, slim, natural boobs, freelancer from BKK. Maybe farang friendly she says, but definitely NOT "asshole or dipshit" friendly. 😂.
Other than that, for those like minded guys that PMed me with the idea of hunting together for higher end and pretty girls, I look forward to hanging out with you all and have messaged you back.
For these rest of the Cheapie Charlies, whose goal is to find that BBFS, CIM, CIF, ass fuck, fist in her pussy girl, who is a model or top tier in looks. All the while trying to lowball the price, good luck in your search for her or a fresh case of HIV! But seriously, you haven't shared shit, but sure do talk as if you know everything. - M.If she was a performer (remember I don't require BBFS nor do I engage in it, A+ is a bonus but again not required, and rimming needs to be on the menu), I'd be willing to toss her 3 k for a two pop 90 min ST. If any more than that, nope, be my guest. Her body is very nice, but face is just so-so. And yes, you are correct, the better looking a gal is, the less she is willing to do. And sorry, for a larger price tag, that just doesn't add up for me or many of the guys on here, no matter how good looking she is. For more money, and what many of us would consider "higher end," we expect not only better looks but a better skill set and for the most part that is what you don't get in Thailand. Price is determined by looks alone now. And believe me, the gals know that.
If she was a performer (remember I don't require BBFS nor do I engage in it, A+ is a bonus but again not required, and rimming needs to be on the menu), I'd be willing to toss her 3 k for a two pop 90 min ST. If any more than that, nope, be my guest. Her body is very nice, but face is just so-so.You are definitely correct, her face is just so so. How could I be so blind. When I compare her to the gem that you shared and posted about (red shirt below), I realize my mistake. Looking at them side by side, your girl from Snow White is so much prettier. I'll shut up now.
In my opinion as well, her face is just ok. I picked this girl up in front of Nana hotel for a 1500 baht short time. We all have our different views, but I think this nana freelancer has a better face.
I'd give your girl 2500 baht short time though. She's worth that. I wouldn't go as high as 3000 for her though. (I wouldn't give 3000 to the nana girl in the photo either). I reserve that kind go money for what I consider to be stunners with big firm breasts.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you are content giving that girl 6000 baht and thinking she is stunning, then good on ya. We all have our different assessments of both beauty and value for money. As long as you are having fun, that's what counts.
You are definitely correct, her face is just so so. How could I be so blind. When I compare her to the gem that you shared and posted about (red shirt below), I realize my mistake. Looking at them side by side, your girl from Snow White is so much prettier. I'll shut up now. 🤐.Frankly face wise they are about on par Monkey but i'll give the edge to your gal. However, Emmy has had far fewer surgeries and also a very tight baby free tight bod and in her very late 20's. Oh, and I might mention almost pink in the nipple and downstairs department. Also is one hell of a performer. A+, CIM, rimming, DFK, MSOG, and BBBJ skills are amazing. Can elicit that second pop in less than 10 min. And I paid 1900 Baht for 2 pops in an hour. What did yours set you back? And what was on the menu? I will concede, your gal takes a good picture. But for me, performance is 60% and looks are 40%. I'd be willing to pay quite a bit more for a combination of both. Still think that is a unicorn. Never really had top quality looks with porn star performance in the Thai p4p scene.
In my opinion as well, her face is just ok. I picked this girl up in front of Nana hotel for a 1500 baht short time. We all have our different views, but I think this nana freelancer has a better face.
I'd give your girl 2500 baht short time though. She's worth that. I wouldn't go as high as 3000 for her though. (I wouldn't give 3000 to the nana girl in the photo either). I reserve that kind go money for what I consider to be stunners with big firm breasts.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you are content giving that girl 6000 baht and thinking she is stunning, then good on ya. We all have our different assessments of both beauty and value for money. As long as you are having fun, that's what counts.Agree with you Smoothy. That Nana lot gal has Monkey's gal and Emmy whipped hands down in the face department.
Arrived in Bangkok around 6 pm a few days ago. Staying in Mermaid Bangkok again which is close by Soi Cowboy.
As I'm pretty tired I stick with Crazy House and Shark Bar. Other bars and NEP can be done another day. Had a quick look in CH but the quality was so so.
I arrived in CH at about 9. 30 pm and as their horrible show started at 10 pm I went to Shark instead but just before I went out of CH there was a girl who got my attention when she tapped my shoulder. I told her that I will be coming back "soon" and give her some more attention because I really did liked her. Can't remember the number though.
Into Shark and a few lookers were on stage doing their thing with probably #348 the best looking one of the pack. Little bit of a Hentai look with a great rack. Not sure whether they're real or not. I'm guessing they're fake. The coyote I had picked a few months ago didn't seemed to be there and after asking that she's still around I got to hear that she's not working there anymore and while I was asking #348 was gone and didn't see her again.
It was almost 11 pm and wanted some bed action in my room so I thought why not giving a try with Smooci. Due to the fact that it was near 11 pm I booked Worra for 2 hours at 1 am. A brief report will follow in the Bangkok Escort thread.
Strangely enough, when I passed by CH on my way back home I noticed the one I had laid my eye on before I left the first time. For some reason I wasn't attracted at all. Funny how it changed just due to looking at her on stage instead of seeing her close by.
When doing a search here in the forum about Shark #348 I noticed that Sygzies gave even a very good score regarding looks which is rather unusual for S. LOL. Wondering that S or any other person had the chance to take her for a ride?
Went the next day to Billboard which overall stays for me my preferred place to go to. Good music (If you like Rap and are&B) and girls in the bathtub have an average score of 7 according to my scale. Got to meet some girls which were pretty but didn't took any of them home. One on the carousel seemed to be a lot in demand during the week I was there. Unfortunately for the curious guys I forgot her number once again. She was slim, very long died black / brown hair with some blonde touch in it. Big (most probably fake) tits. Probably braces needed as her teeth weren't the greatest but she was busy every night with western only. Had a peek in Lollipop after leaving BB but left after ten seconds. Straight to Shark bar where it seemed that the girl (Apple) that allegedly left was there. Number 348 from the night before was not around. As I needed to do something early the next day I left early and chocked the chicken instead.
Agree with you Smoothy. That Nana lot gal has Monkey's gal and Emmy whipped hands down in the face department.Thanks for complimenting me on my game.
It's also funny that MonkeyPaw is so stupid that he try to belittle others because they better like PSE better than GFE.I definitely like PSE over both GFE and looks.
It's also fun that some are as stupid as MonkeyPaw, so they think that a high price protects them from HIV / AIDS.I am usually not as obnoxious as MonkeyPaw (usually I said), but I kind of agree with his HIV statement. I usually don't pay for those high price stunners, mainly because they don't do PSE. They usually require a condom for BJs. They don't offer BBFS and anal (both of which I don't do). No CIM, no swallow, no rimming. IMO, statistically speaking, high price stunners will have a lower percentage of HIV infection than lower price PSE freelancers.
Billboard which overall stays for me my preferred place to go toIt seems Billboard has the best overall girls at Nana. IMO, it has the best overall average cuteness rating. It seems to be the most "fun" place. It seems to be the most packed with customers.
WTF! What happened to the nakedness at Nana. It was only topless at Billboards, Spankys, and couple of other bars. They (some of the girls) were nude previously.
You are definitely correct, her face is just so so. How could I be so blind. When I compare her to the gem that you shared and posted about (red shirt below), I realize my mistake. Looking at them side by side, your girl from Snow White is so much prettier. I'll shut up now. 🤐.What I appreciate about the posting of that Snow White girl's photo is it appears to be taken from her agency's online site or at least from some other source online. So reposting a girl's photo who already had a P4P-related photo presence elsewhere online is more or less fair game, imo. But what you are doing and begging the rest of us to join you in doing is very different. I have never been a fan of posting photos of girls on forums like these and have mentioned it in the past. I have tried to lay low on my feelings about it this time around because I understand my position on it is a buzz kill for members who want to see photos of our specific girls and the site certainly likes photos being posted.
I realize you are all excited about finally finding a way to get laid (sort of) by paying girls you meet in the clubs for sex and all of that and want to show off your trophies, compare them with our girls and all. However, since you have gone on and on about posting and begging us to post photos of our girls, assuming their photos are not already easily available online as P4P providers elsewhere, I think someone, ok, me, ought to at least mention the very dark side of doing this. We are, after all, not posting photos of the lady who gives the best foot massage on Soi 8 or whips up the best Pad Thai on Asok. We are talking about girls who fuck and suck strangers and P4P sex. And that is different.
Although Smoothy, Goatscrot and I are enlightened enough about these things to understand that you writing our usernames on a piece of paper resting it against your girl's vagina puts our penises almost as close to actual skin-on-skin intimacy with the inside of her vagina as yours (and without us paying a baht for it! Thanks), that girl's husband, boyfriend, significant other, mom, dad, brother, other close family member or daytime job employer might not be so enlightened about it. Therefore, when a friend of a friend's cousin's cousin finally finds their way to this site and sees that photo of her or another of your or our trophy girl and the Field Report that goes along with it, she just might be in for the ass kicking of her life and total removal from the scene in a way you never anticipated. Or maybe you did anticipate. Don't know.
That has happened. It probably happens a lot more than we know. It happened with me on a site similar to this one and the ripple effect spread to at least two other such sites. In fact, the "kindly old gentlemen", as he presented himself on those sites, begging for more info and photos of ladies we thought were the best at their job was in reality a suspicious husband not kind, old or a gentleman trying to make the connection between where his wife really went in the evenings and, later, exactly who was having sex with her. So, fair warning to you and to anyone else joining you in publicly posting photos of girls we are claiming to engage in P4P or even free trysts for mutual sex and pleasure on this or similar sites; somewhere out there is an interested third party that can take his revenge out on her and perhaps even us in ways that will not end well for the girl and might even wind up being seriously dangerous for the poster as well.
It's a public forum and who cares if the chicks find it.
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Let's agree to disagree.
A working girl has made a conscious decision to sleep with a total stranger, whom she has never met in her life, and does this night after night. And a photo of her circulating among the countless on the net is going to ruin her life? What are the chances? 1 in a million? Heck, a construction worker has more chances of getting whacked in his profession. If the photo was taken without her permission then sure, it is morally wrong and legally as well. But otherwise it is all fairgame. How many mongers have been featured unwittingly in the HD videos of WS circulating on youtube? There is a risk involved in everything and as grown ups we all understand that.
Sharing photos of working girls on ISG is the only way to equate quality with price, service is another story.
Just my personal opinion, sure others feel likewise or different.
You hit the nail on the head there. If there were no photos on this site, I'd stop visiting it. However, I will say that I don't care so much about the field reports associated with such girls. I just like to look at the photos. It's when there is a specific field report associated with details of where to find the girl that I find guys running into trouble. There are so many girls in Bangkok, I don't need to be searching for any one particular girl. I have never once searched out a specific girl posted in a field report. But I know others who have, and others who have shared the link to this site with those girls so they can see their photo posted. As ridiculous as it may seem, there are idiots out there who do that. I think the chance of one of the girl's relatives happening on the photos on their own here is very unlikely, but the chance of a fellow monger showing the girls is possible. And once one girl is shown the site, the other girls will all know about it too.I agree with you on that bit about chasing down one specific girl who happens to have given one guy on holiday a good time being largely an unrealistic waste of time. But where a close relative or relationship is most likely to find photos of the girl they know here is not merely by chance but because that person engaged in simple research. They don't just stumble upon it, they came here looking for it. In this case, we have a guy touting specific clubs to find "the best" girls and wants us to post photos of the girls we have met and had sex with from those or other similar clubs he has named. He could already know the girl he is trying to track down frequents those clubs. Now the pool of possibilities is dramatically narrowed. All he needs is for one of us to post the photo and share details for the girl he is bent on cornering and done.
That's the way that guy on the other site I referenced did it. He went on and on, just like MonkeyPaw, about how we all should be posting photos and contact information about the girls working the scene, mostly in a particular kind of venue, and eventually someone put a name and location to where and what his wife was doing. He then made an easy connection on the timing of a Line message from me to her on something he asked about "the girl" and, after tapping into her unattended phone, had a definite connection between me and her. From that he had my photo, knew the general area where I lived. He threatened my life online and in private messages, got very rough with her, took their child from her and she no longer works on the scene. It really isn't that difficult for a determined and angry loser to find an active P4P girl in the 2-3 major areas for it that he is looking for on sites like this one as long as he insists that more and more posters put up photos of their girls, cite contact information and so on, as this guy is doing.
I definitely like PSE over both GFE and looks.
I am usually not as obnoxious as MonkeyPaw (usually I said), but I kind of agree with his HIV statement. I usually don't pay for those high price stunners, mainly because they don't do PSE. They usually require a condom for BJs. They don't offer BBFS and anal (both of which I don't do). No CIM, no swallow, no rimming. IMO, statistically speaking, high price stunners will have a lower percentage of HIV infection than lower price PSE freelancers.Good for those liking the concept (might work statistically, but this is a monger forum) but aside engaging in BBFS, all what you say about their "no service" makes me wonder why should I pay for such a girl.
Guys,
I did read it somewhere in one of the threads of Bangkok about a bar where you can pickup girls without risking getting a LB. Apparently this bar is located in Shukumvit road somewhere near Terminal 21 and the entrance is a bit hidden under another hotel entrance. Outside lots of LB standing but inside there are part-time WGs whom one can negotiate prices with.
I did RTFF but could not find that post. Would any of you kind mongers help me out and give me the name / location of this place. I will be in BKK next week and would like to check it out.Hey Arif- hope this response isn't too late for you. The place is called Thermae. Around the corner from Soi 15. I personally don't like the vibe and get the distinct impression that the girls are all looking for Japanese / Korean customers. Nevertheless, I suggest you walk in earlier (7. 30-8 pm) rather than later. You'll have a better selection. If I remember right, buying a drink is mandatory and then you just walk around. All the ladies are against the wall. Make eye contact and approach whoever you are interested in. If you don't see anyone interesting who's willing to go with you, you're not too far away from Cowboy or Nana.
If you read through the forum, you'll see that there are numerous GoGos at both these venues that don't have any LBs. Go into the ones that most posters are talking about. There won't be any LBs in those.
Cheers and enjoy BKK / Pulse.
What I appreciate about the posting of that Snow White girl's photo is it appears to be taken from her agency's online site or at least from some other source online. So reposting a girl's photo who already had a P4P-related photo presence elsewhere online is more or less fair game, imo. But what you are doing and begging the rest of us to join you in doing is very different. I have never been a fan of posting photos of girls on forums like these and have mentioned it in the past. I have tried to lay low on my feelings about it this time around because I understand my position on it is a buzz kill for members who want to see photos of our specific girls and the site certainly likes photos being posted.
I realize you are all excited about finally finding a way to get laid (sort of) by paying girls you meet in the clubs for sex and all of that and want to show off your trophies, compare them with our girls and all. However, since you have gone on and on about posting and begging us to post photos of our girls, assuming their photos are not already easily available online as P4P providers elsewhere, I think someone, ok, me, ought to at least mention the very dark side of doing this. We are, after all, not posting photos of the lady who gives the best foot massage on Soi 8 or whips up the best Pad Thai on Asok. We are talking about girls who fuck and suck strangers and P4P sex. And that is different.
Although Smoothy, Goatscrot and I are enlightened enough about these things to understand that you writing our usernames on a piece of paper resting it against your girl's vagina puts our penises almost as close to actual skin-on-skin intimacy with the inside of her vagina as yours (and without us paying a baht for it! Thanks), that girl's husband, boyfriend, significant other, mom, dad, brother, other close family member or daytime job employer might not be so enlightened about it. Therefore, when a friend of a friend's cousin's cousin finally finds their way to this site and sees that photo of her or another of your or our trophy girl and the Field Report that goes along with it, she just might be in for the ass kicking of her life and total removal from the scene in a way you never anticipated. Or maybe you did anticipate. Don't know.
That has happened. It probably happens a lot more than we know. It happened with me on a site similar to this one and the ripple effect spread to at least two other such sites. In fact, the "kindly old gentlemen", as he presented himself on those sites, begging for more info and photos of ladies we thought were the best at their job was in reality a suspicious husband not kind, old or a gentleman trying to make the connection between where his wife really went in the evenings and, later, exactly who was having sex with her. So, fair warning to you and to anyone else joining you in publicly posting photos of girls we are claiming to engage in P4P or even free trysts for mutual sex and pleasure on this or similar sites; somewhere out there is an interested third party that can take his revenge out on her and perhaps even us in ways that will not end well for the girl and might even wind up being seriously dangerous for the poster as well.I have never nor would I ever take pics of a wg; for exactly the reasons that ElhToom's stated. I have no need to document my conquests. Posting on this board is to provide information to other mongers, not to show-off what I have been with.
What I appreciate about the posting of that Snow White girl's photo is it appears to be taken from her agency's online site or at least from some other source online. So reposting a girl's photo who already had a P4P-related photo presence elsewhere online is more or less fair game, imo. But what you are doing and begging the rest of us to join you in doing is very different. I have never been a fan of posting photos of girls on forums like these and have mentioned it in the past. I have tried to lay low on my feelings about it this time around because I understand my position on it is a buzz kill for members who want to see photos of our specific girls and the site certainly likes photos being posted.
I realize you are all excited about finally finding a way to get laid (sort of) by paying girls you meet in the clubs for sex and all of that and want to show off your trophies, compare them with our girls and all. However, since you have gone on and on about posting and begging us to post photos of our girls, assuming their photos are not already easily available online as P4P providers elsewhere, I think someone, ok, me, ought to at least mention the very dark side of doing this. We are, after all, not posting photos of the lady who gives the best foot massage on Soi 8 or whips up the best Pad Thai on Asok. We are talking about girls who fuck and suck strangers and P4P sex. And that is different..Thanks for this important reminder. I bet if the shoe were on the other foot those idiots who post pics w / out the ladies' permission would think twice about doing so! I'd love to see some of them get outed and then see whether they remain sanctimonious about posting pics on the sly.
Banana Boi
12-05-17, 10:56
Agree. Would never post a personal photo I took of a girl without their permission to do so. I have posted some girls I know in the past but those are photos that are available to the public via the bar's Facebook or website, etc.
Sharing photos of working girls on ISG is the only way to equate quality with price, service is another story.
Quality is subjective. What I view as a top gogo girl who I wouldn't care what I paid for is likely someone who Syzygies for example wouldn't give even 500 baht to for LT, and vice versa. Our tastes are nearly on the opposite side of the spectrum with a very few crossovers.
Hey Arif- hope this response isn't too late for you. The place is called Thermae. Around the corner from Soi 15. I personally don't like the vibe and get the distinct impression that the girls are all looking for Japanese / Korean customers. Nevertheless, I suggest you walk in earlier (7. 30-8 pm) rather than later. You'll have a better selection. If I remember right, buying a drink is mandatory and then you just walk around. All the ladies are against the wall. Make eye contact and approach whoever you are interested in. If you don't see anyone interesting who's willing to go with you, you're not too far away from Cowboy or Nana.
If you read through the forum, you'll see that there are numerous GoGos at both these venues that don't have any LBs. Go into the ones that most posters are talking about. There won't be any LBs in those.
Cheers and enjoy BKK / Pulse.Thanks man! Other also responded, I will check this out next time I visit BKK, possibly next week.
Thanks for this important reminder. I bet if the shoe were on the other foot those idiots who post pics w / out the ladies' permission would think twice about doing so! I'd love to see some of them get outed and then see whether they remain sanctimonious about posting pics on the sly.Seriously? You would love for forum members to be "outed" for posting photos here on ISG? Come on, dude. Sounds like you are the one being sanctimonious here.
Monkey's Paw,
I quite enjoy your posts and appreciate your detailed accounts and contentious theories based on your own testimony and photos etc. On the need for so-called game to get the girl you want, to perhaps unintentionally quote the band Devo. Hats off to you and the girls you want. .... I think, Monkey's Paw, if you ever got fatigued from taking the gaming approach and wanted to just relax, you could and it would not turn out nearly as bad as you might think. I think a lot of girls here in Thailand respond well to chilled out, fun, polite, well dressed guys who don't feel averse to being even just a little bit generous and by that I don't mean being stupid about money either, in fact you will lose their respect if you are that way and you will find yourself being treated badly if you become too generous. Wasting money is not looked too kindly on in Thailand as counter-intuitive as that might sound.Your original post was quite long, but I'll try to be to the point. This is my last mention of GAME. If any member or hobbyist says it's not needed or it doesn't exist, then they are truly truly ignorant. The scene we operate in is PLAY FOR PAY. The girls want our money and punters want the best experience (each having their own opinion to what that is). I get that. Now there are so many different types of girls. I get that too. But in Thailand, the Thais are the expert of what is beautiful and what isn't. Our opinions as punters doesn't really count. But I kind of agree with them, the fairer the skin and the slimmer the body, the right direction. So in every place such as a Go Go Bar or Soapy, there are what the staff and other girls consider the "BEST of the BEST. ". And the hotter girls always is able to do and charge whatever she wants... For some, the GAME ends there because they don't have a chance. She doesn't give them a second look, smile, or won't even come for a drink. For me... this is when the the GAME starts!
My only goal every night I do this (which is like 365 days a year) is to get the best and let my GAME try to get me the best experience. I've had BBFS experience before when I first started. Not worth the risk to me anymore, because I'm doing 400 plus girls a year in 25 different countries. So for me, my best YMMV would be BBBJ, DFK, covered sex, with CIM from the top girl at each venue, determined by both me and her reputation amongst the staff, for the correct asking price, and on first try (not multiple bookings). I didn't get that even 10% of the time when I first started in Thailand. Seriously, what '"top" girl of every venue will give up all that on only in 1 meeting. But now, I'm at the point where I get that 50% of the time. Members on here that say they do all the time, what quality of girls are they getting? So I ask them to share (which they still haven't).
Last night, I sat at Baccara Pattaya with another ISG member and watched over and over as guys get rejected or played by dancers for drinks. So there is an obvious GAME on both sides. The hottest girls at every venue gets to pick and choose which customers she goes with every night, and what she does with him. Because the next day, she can get another one again easily. These girls are the egos I like to break along with some of the punters as well. So for ANYONE who says there isn't GAME required, that means they have NO FEAR of rejection. That they can waltz into any venue, ask the mamasan to bring the hottest girl to them, pay her the going rate, and get the experience they want. HECK! I can't even do that and I'm always trying to better my game. But honestly, I think have been with ALL the better looking girls at Thermae and every Go Go Bar in Bangkok and Pattaya, so the XX models at the Lord's was my last conquest. 10,000 baht is no problem. I paid $800 USD for a music video model in Zurich and it was so so experience. The GAME itself with the top notch Thai girls is more than money for sex. They want more. So I'm at a point, where I'm in a sharing mood to discover better girls. But honestly, I think it's just me. I'm at the top, because when another member posts on their let's say. "BETTER FINDS. " I'm like NO THANKS. And now.....
Examples of Game, when money is all the same for 3000 baht short time at Baccara.
Where are you from?
An American born Chinese from California versus one who lives in Shanghai, who gets more brownie points?
Here on holiday?
A guy who is here on a work contract 6 months versus somebody here for 5 days, who gets more brownie points?
Can you speak Thai and how?
A guy who learned it hobbying in Thailand versus another guy who said before he had a Thai girlfriend who worked another Go Go bar that he "sponsored" for a bit, and she taught him, who gets more brownie points?
There is a shit load of examples, but those with GAME will understand what to say, when to say it, and why it it said. How much truth to it DOES NOT matter. The girls will step up their own game and you better be ready.
And anybody who says there isn't GAME must have NEVER been rejected in the Thailand P4 P scene, which I know they are lying there asses off. I see it at Go Go bars, I see it at Thermae, I see it Thaniya (which farangs can't get even inside), I see it at Soapy's that a customer is quoted 20,000, but another 1/2 that price and so on and so on.
One time a girl at Thermae quoted me 4000ST, everybody else 2500. The cute girl next to her overheard the conversation and told me it was because that particular girl had seen me gone with about 25 girls in there and wasn't too fond of me not being able to stick to one. But I really wanted to bang her because she got new boobs, which was the reason I didn't before. They were small. I paid the girl next to her 500 baht in the bathroom to chat her up and say that she had already gone with me before and I was a 3 minute, quick sex type of guy. The next day, I asked new boobs girl again and this time, she agreed for 2500. I started sweet talking her on the walk to my room, and told her she was "perfect" with her new boobs, because it matched her lovely face. And I was sorry for not grabbing her first. For the next hour and a half, I grudge fucked this tiny girl with a huge smile watching these new boobies of her flop up and down! I was able to DFK, BBBJ, and finish on her new boobs and tipped her a couple hundred baht. She thought she had me as a regular. Next day afterwards, I went into Thermae, walked towards big boobs. She had a big smile which quickly turned into a frown when I grabbed the cute girl next to her. And when her coworker quoted me 2500, I told her I would give her 4000 for a couple of hours. She agreed happily. As we walked away, I watched as big boobs eyes stared me down with hate that the devil has for God. This my "friend" is what I mean by GAME, when you don't have to work and you don't give a shit about money and you get exactly what you want. This is how I play in your world. I break egos. - M.
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Although Smoothy, Goatscrot and I are enlightened enough about these things to understand that you writing our usernames on a piece of paper resting it against your girl's vagina puts our penises almost as close to actual skin-on-skin intimacy with the inside of her vagina as yours (and without us paying a baht for it! Thanks).Read what you wrote again. You must have a low standard for what is considered intimacy and sex. Poor you. I feel bad now and apologize if I made you feel lowly. I don't want to one of those who bully the mentally challenged or retarded. Really I am apologizing to you. If you feel lonely, feel free to use the pic below. It’s my gift to you.. - M
You hit the nail on the head there. If there were no photos on this site, I'd stop visiting it. However, I will say that I don't care so much about the field reports associated with such girls. I just like to look at the photos. It's when there is a specific field report associated with details of where to find the girl that I find guys running into trouble. There are so many girls in Bangkok, I don't need to be searching for any one particular girl. I have never once searched out a specific girl posted in a field report. But I know others who have, and others who have shared the link to this site with those girls so they can see their photo posted. As ridiculous as it may seem, there are idiots out there who do that. I think the chance of one of the girl's relatives happening on the photos on their own here is very unlikely, but the chance of a fellow monger showing the girls is possible. And once one girl is shown the site, the other girls will all know about it too.Please. Look at your last sentence in YOUR OWN post. Dude, the crap that comes out of your keyboard. You flip flop so much, it's hilarious.
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Grandaddy Perp
12-07-17, 08:04
Your original post was quite long, but I'll try to be to the point. This is my last mention of GAME. If any member or hobbyist says it's not needed or it doesn't exist, then they are truly truly ignorant. The scene we operate in is PLAY FOR PAY. The girls want our money and punters want the best experience (each having their own opinion to what that is). I get that. Now there are so many different types of girls. I get that too. But in Thailand, the Thais are the expert of what is beautiful and what isn't. Our opinions as punters doesn't really count. But I kind of agree with them, the fairer the skin and the slimmer the body, the right direction. So in every place such as a Go Go Bar or Soapy, there are what the staff and other girls consider the "BEST of the BEST. ". And the hotter girls always is able to do and charge whatever she wants... For some, the GAME ends there because they don't have a chance. She doesn't give them a second look, smile, or won't even come for a drink. For me... this is when the the GAME starts!
My only goal every night I do this (which is like 365 days a year) is to get the best and let my GAME try to get me the best experience. I've had BBFS experience before when I first started. Not worth the risk to me anymore, because I'm doing 400 plus girls a year in 25 different countries. So for me, my best YMMV would be BBBJ, DFK, covered sex, with CIM from the top girl at each venue, determined by both me and her reputation amongst the staff, for the correct asking price, and on first try (not multiple bookings). I didn't get that even 10% of the time when I first started in Thailand..How anyone can even bring up the word GAME and agogo or P4P lingo in the same sentence is beyond me. What you describe seems more like purchasing tactics. I also don't understand why some guys feel the need to come onto mongering sites and brag about this sort of stuff.
Also, western style bro code GAME doesn't mean squat in Thailand. Its all about status and that comes from who you know and knowing the right people is about being able to offer up something new or different. That can be due to good looks, not being the typical 'PLAYER' (Thai men have more GAME than any 'bra' from the OC will ever have), or having a position of status within a job or social circle. If you want a real challenge pop into BEAM, Sing Sing Theater, or one of the Trendy Thai joints in Ekamai or Thong Lor and try and pick up the hottest lady in there. No money, just good looks and GAME.
With all of this being said, I do find your stories entertaining and a nice break from the typical "I can speak Thai' and 'I know every lady that has ever worked in a BKK' rhetoric so keep up the writing.
How anyone can even bring up the word GAME and agogo or P4P lingo in the same sentence is beyond me. What you describe seems more like purchasing tactics. I also don't understand why some guys feel the need to come onto mongering sites and brag about this sort of stuff.
Also, western style bro code GAME doesn't mean squat in Thailand. Its all about status and that comes from who you know and knowing the right people is about being able to offer up something new or different. That can be due to good looks, not being the typical 'PLAYER' (Thai men have more GAME than any 'bra' from the OC will ever have), or having a position of status within a job or social circle. If you want a real challenge pop into BEAM, Sing Sing Theater, or one of the Trendy Thai joints in Ekamai or Thong Lor and try and pick up the hottest lady in there. No money, just good looks and GAME.
With all of this being said, I do find your stories entertaining and a nice break from the typical "I can speak Thai' and 'I know every lady that has ever worked in a BKK' rhetoric so keep up the writing.I would say that at places like Sing Sing the ability to spend money is also weighed by the gals that go there. While not P4 P, although some there are, the gals expect you to spend on them at the bar. And some cute farang gals to be seen there as well.
Grandaddy Perp
12-08-17, 06:00
I would say that at places like Sing Sing the ability to spend money is also weighed by the gals that go there. While not P4 P, although some there are, the gals expect you to spend on them at the bar. And some cute farang gals to be seen there as well.That's if you don't have STATUS.
If you have status you can walk into a non-P4P venue like a Sing Sing and the ladies will buy you drinks.
I think a lot of guys come here with that 'How to Make A Woman Worship the Ground you Walk On in 10 Easy Steps' handbook bullshit. That you need to more or less be a Weinstein to get what you want. Sure, if all you want is to 'bang the hottest Pattaya agogo chicks' than yeah throwing around money is easy and universal, more so in developing countries. But even if they make 2500 plus BF and drinks for 15 minutes of bed work and a paper sign taped to their legs then they are winning.
If you want to be a winner you got to get them to pay and if you are winning they will pay because the reality is, there are more beautiful women here than there are desirable men. And many of these women are well educated, have their own money and Know what they want and how to get it. They are the players.
This is my last mention of GAME.Game over.
UShobbyist
12-08-17, 23:17
It seems Billboard has the best overall girls at Nana. IMO, it has the best overall average cuteness rating. It seems to be the most "fun" place. It seems to be the most packed with customers.
WTF! What happened to the nakedness at Nana. It was only topless at Billboards, Spankys, and couple of other bars. They (some of the girls) were nude previously.IMHO, Twister has more girls and more doable girls than those of Billboard. Unfortunately all the girls in Twister are in bikinis. At present time, there are no nude girls in any clubs of Nana plaza.
LittleBigMan
12-09-17, 01:58
IMHO, Twister has more girls and more doable girls than those of Billboard. Unfortunately all the girls in Twister are in bikinis. At present time, there are no nude girls in any clubs of Nana plaza.Spanky's? In August.
Hung Man 1808
12-09-17, 03:06
If you feel lonely, feel free to use the pic below. Its my gift to you.. - MHow much did you pay the cam girl to do that?
It seems Billboard has the best overall girls at Nana. IMO, it has the best overall average cuteness rating. It seems to be the most "fun" place. It seems to be the most packed with customers.
WTF! What happened to the nakedness at Nana. It was only topless at Billboards, Spankys, and couple of other bars. They (some of the girls) were nude previously.I share your opinion GB. I feel that the girls are having fun if that's a possibility working in a Go-Go bar. Especially the girls in the tub seem to enjoy themselves. The feeling I have from the carousel girls is not the same though. They seem to look much more static and don't really pay that much attention to them. Overall ambiance is just good I would say. Never have been scammed by the waitresses even though I have been hearing many bad stories about it. One night in BB the girls in the tub all in a sudden put on their bra for some reason for about 10 minutes or so. Not sure what it was all about.
Had number 8 as she gives a good show while she's on your lap. While asking for her rates she mentioned that she's only doing ST which was I believe 3500 Bath. Can't remember why she's not doing LT but she mentioned that if LT she would charge 7000 Bath which is slightly ridiculous. It even got more ridiculous when she mentioned that this would be for 5 hours only. Thanked her for the company and I left without her. My favorite (Bam) was not around.
I went to have a peek in Butterflies for the first time across BB. The place seemed to be huge and had also a tub of so on the left hand side with girls dancing topless. I think it was about 1130 pm when I entered and the girls were so so regarding looks. A bit of a strange bar to me with big podiums / platforms but not that much place to sit for such a big place. I can be wrong as I just sat in the couch which was very different for me but actually not bad. Still I don't think I will be going back soon.
Other places in NEP during my short stay in BKK were Bangkok Bunnies (A very few were topless but girls were even worse in look as in Butterflies), Lollipop (Can't recall, left after 10 seconds after checking out the girls) and I think I entered "Enter" next to BB which I can't even remember how the girls looked like. Just remember that I left faster than I entered which probably isn't a positive indicator.
Thanks for the tip UShobbyist. I'll have a look at Twisters in a few months or so. I think I already went into that place 6 months ago or longer. Can't remember how it was but worthwhile sticking my head into the joint.
Now, it's time to put your money where your mouth is, for some members on here. SilverSurfer, Phazze93, and I have looked at the history of photos for this forum. We are very disappointed at the quality. Is that, what is considered pretty now days?. It might be rude to say "yuck," so I would just rather say. "those are not my type, but thanks for sharing. " So if ANYONE on this forum has ANYTHING worth while to share, please do. What I really mean is post photos of the "most beautiful, prettiest, or hot girls" that you don't mind sharing for others to fuck and that way they can make some money. This way, if any of us members like the way they look. We can trade you a girl for a girl, after screening. I am willing to share the contact information with some of my girls, for yours if I feel that they are my type of hotness. I was able to hook SilverSurfer up with a girl after screening, but on that day, she started her period, and he wasn't adventurous to earn his "red wings. " Also, don't try to give me hamburger meat for filet mignon, so please post in public what you have to offer. If there isn't any replies, then for sure I know that most shit talkers have been talking out of their asses on here. To that I say "It's time to IGNORE. " To the rest of those whose goal is to fuck HOT GiRLs, let's keep playing and keep sharing intel. Here are my 3 real girls to put up. All 3 have breast implants and are slim by the way.Sorry to be replying so late. I have been busy. The girl in 2nd last picture is quite stunning to me, so I would be prepared to pay a high price to try her. She distracts me from even considering the others. Just my taste.
You have to take into account that other guys are not so looks oriented, so while Snow White Emmy is far behind in looks, she performs quite well. Still never was good enough looking to keep pulling me back.
It's just different guys have different priorities. I would just like a good enthusiastic performance from a stunner.
Orangganteng
12-09-17, 06:49
The girl in 2nd last picture is quite stunning to me, so I would be prepared to pay a high price to try her. She distracts me from even considering the others. Just my taste.That's the same girl as in the last picture. Each of those girls had 2 photos posted back to back in that post.
I share your opinion GB. I feel that the girls are having fun if that's a possibility working in a Go-Go bar. Especially the girls in the tub seem to enjoy themselves. The feeling I have from the carousel girls is not the same though. They seem to look much more static and don't really pay that much attention to them. Overall ambiance is just good I would say. Never have been scammed by the waitresses even though I have been hearing many bad stories about it. One night in BB the girls in the tub all in a sudden put on their bra for some reason for about 10 minutes or so. Not sure what it was all about.
Had number 8 as she gives a good show while she's on your lap. While asking for her rates she mentioned that she's only doing ST which was I believe 3500 Bath. Can't remember why she's not doing LT but she mentioned that if LT she would charge 7000 Bath which is slightly ridiculous. It even got more ridiculous when she mentioned that this would be for 5 hours only. Thanked her for the company and I left without her. My favorite (Bam) was not around.
I went to have a peek in Butterflies for the first time across BB. The place seemed to be huge and had also a tub of so on the left hand side with girls dancing topless. I think it was about 1130 pm when I entered and the girls were so so regarding looks. A bit of a strange bar to me with big podiums / platforms but not that much place to sit for such a big place. I can be wrong as I just sat in the couch which was very different for me but actually not bad. Still I don't think I will be going back soon..Been to Thailand more than 10 times. I will no longer go there and expect the business there will dry up soon if it hasn't already. The prices are so high it is not worth going anymore.
UShobbyist
12-09-17, 23:07
Spanky's? In August.Spanky's does not have nude girls right now. If you get in Spanky's after 9 PM, you always see a topless girl in the shower. She might be nude in August but she is just topless right now.
LittleBigMan
12-10-17, 01:41
Spanky's does not have nude girls right now. If you get in Spanky's after 9 PM, you always see a topless girl in the shower. She might be nude in August but she is just topless right now.That is sad? I made a visit to Bangkok on 15th, of August. Since the next day I had a appointment at the you. S Embassy. I checked out around 10 Go Go, the two best places with lots of nudity was Crazy House and Spanky's, that evening at Spanky's the girls were all packed nude on stage. My next visit is beginning of the year hope that changes?
Sorry to be replying so late. I have been busy. The girl in 2nd last picture is quite stunning to me, so I would be prepared to pay a high price to try her. She distracts me from even considering the others. Just my taste.
You have to take into account that other guys are not so looks oriented, so while Snow White Emmy is far behind in looks, she performs quite well. Still never was good enough looking to keep pulling me back.
It's just different guys have different priorities. I would just like a good enthusiastic performance from a stunner.Please don't apologise. Everyone has been really pleased of the rest.
As I had an early appointment the next day I called it a day after another round of NEP. On my way back to Mermaid Hotel I figured out that after all that drinking I seriously need to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and fast! I passed Thermae and thought why not having a leak there. I never went into this place before so I was curious how the place looked like. Went inside, asked for a drink and looked over the whole place. Now I have never experienced such a place before. Even though it was about 1. 15 am the place was packed with women everywhere. Having this said though I had the impression that this is more of a place for the Asian punters. The western amongst us were outnumbered to say the least. I also thought that these women there were more into Asian customers as not many of them were looking at me interested when I passed them.
While I was finishing my drink there was one girl I laid my eyes on and she looked interested in me. She was there with a GF of hers who was talking to a customer. When I walked over her friend left so I had her for myself. Her name was Bam. To keep it short we agreed on 2500 k ST. Once arrived in my room we went straight to action. The surprise was that she was a multiple squirter. Fun at the start but it was messy after the whole show came to an end.
Downside was that she looked better with clothes on than without. She was tiny and skinny which is one of the body types that I like but she had quite a lot of stretch marks around her waist. Luckily the room I have in Mermaid has a blue T5 light right behind the back of the bed which gives a nice ambience. Usually I put some more light on but with her I kept it with the blue light only. Tits were so so. Another downside was that she was a social smoker so unfortunately I limited the DFK.
All in all I had a good session with her. Multiple positions, DATY, 69, rimming, BBBJCIM good performer and never complained. I won't repeat though due to the stretchmarks and a bit of saggy tits and als the reason that I won't be returning to Thermae. Good to have experienced Thermae though. For the newcomers here it's good to know that you don't have to pay a BF. San Mig light cost I believe 120 bath.
A couple of years ago I had this great experience:
Late in the evening after a visit to Mixx I went back to soi4. Walking down the soi I see this young SW girl with a bit of a tummy. It turned out to be a beautiful young pregnant lady who apparently was looking for company. I kindly invited her to join me back to my hotel.
First we had a shower where she performed a great BBBJ. Continuing to the bed where we had a nice session with BBBJ CFJ and CIM. I was even abe to make har lactate a little bit. Seeing that milk dripping was amazing. The whole thing was a great turn on for me.
It was a very special night.
Sunday- Spent the day sightseeing in Ayuthaya. Then first time visit to Soi Cowboy. Some good vibes, I like the more nudity at Baccara and CH. Saw a few that interested me but seemed to miss my opportunity as they ended up with others. Checked out Thermae for the first time. Stepped down and was directed by the guy to turn left and buy a drink. Very packed. Mostly Asian men with lots and lots of ladies to choose from. Some lookers here and there. I chose Cake- medium tall, from Isan, 24, dark and curvy. I watched her for 10 min from across the room. She seemed meek and did not really make eye contact with many men. She had an unusual East Indian mixed look. Agreed on 2500 baht for 1 hour (she did not do more). Walked to my hotel. Showered separately. Nice body- no surprises except she had a full Bush. Couldn't get myself to DATY even though I love to. She wanted only CBJ which was disappointing. She said she had a cut under her lips. Maybe an excuse. Cover on, lots of positions. Loved her body but I just couldn't finish. Just not enough chemistry or my full day bike ride took too much out of me. 5 min remain and I called it quits. Paid, small tip and she left herself from hotel. Too late to try something else and I went to sleep.
Constitution Day -Monday. Spent the day sight seeing the Grand Palace and what's. Met an American chick just started teaching English here. Went to see a Muy Thai fight with her. Would have enjoyed some evening fun with her but didn't happen. Went back to Baccara and found the girl I was eyeing the night before. Eve was no. 25,26 year old From just north of Bangkok. Solid big silicon tits but she had the most beautiful face. She was a hot version Lisa Ling from American TV. BF 600 baht plus the 3 drinks and tip. Agreed short time was 3000 baht. Pricey I thought. Sorry guys. Taxi back to my hotel (the guys outside Soi Cowboy wanted double price so she and I just walked across the street). Once in she said shower together. Great I thought. She had a nice athletic body. She did Muy Thai for fitness until a motorcycle accident. Her English was practically non existent. Anyway DATY, BBBJ, cover on and the pounding started. Hardly any kissing. Just pecks. She's also ticklish. I can last a while, unfortunately after 20 min she looked like she was in pain. Not the good like like. Pound me baby- but the OMG when you haven't cum yet?! Long story short, I had to let her go even though I paid her the full amount. She seemed sad and very apologetic. No real chemistry and the language barrier was too great. She been at this for 5 months and just was not experienced enough to keep me going. Got tired of trying to chat with her so walked her downstairs. She waved at me when she left, no hugs and kisses. Lame.
Uncle Volodya
12-12-17, 12:51
Yep, a big down side to Thermae is not knowing what is under those clothes.
A couple of summers ago, my buddy Banana Boi hooked me up with a friend of one of his Thermae regulars. This girl is a knockout with her clothes on and usually only goes with Asians. The Japanese guys snap her up minutes after the place opens.
Unfortunately the poor little thing has some of the worst baby damage I have ever seen. As pretty as her face is it did not make we want to repeat.
Undercoverh
12-12-17, 13:07
I had a weird experience last night at Straps go-go bar. As you walk into the Nana entertainment complex you turn right and go up the stairs and it's on the second floor in a small corner. When I first went in the girls look very attractive, in fact too attractive. I asked the waitress where they ladyboys and she said no.
These girls didn't act like girls they act too aggressive and their movements were trying to imitate girls. So I asked another lady working as a waitress where they ladyboys and she said no. I saw one dancer I like so I had her come over and sit down for a lady's drink. As I start talking to her I realize that this was not a girl. She was very aggressive and her voice was a little bit heavy. She was very aggressive about selling me her services for 3500 Baht upstairs. Which is obviously too much plus the bar fine of 700 baht. As I talked to her she told me she had her ding dong chopped off. In fact, all 15 of the ladies in their dancing were actually lady boys with their [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord133] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133) chopped off. It was a weird feeling being a bar and realize that all the guys had their ding dongs chopped off and replaced with a hole.
To make matters worse the girls / guys were very aggressive. After the girl left after she drank her ladies drink very quickly. The waitress wanted me to buy another drink and was very aggressive. A guy from Great Britain sat next to me and was asking me where these ladies or boys. I told him that there are ladyboys with the peepees chopped off. About that time the waitress came over and asked me to leave the bar and I couldn't talk to other customers.
The guy from Great Britain looked at me surprised. I asked the waitress again what did she say and she told me that I had bought only one drink and one ladies drink and if I wanted to stay I had to buy more drinks. This is a weird place and I advised not to visit it at all. After that incident I left the bar and I will never go back there again. Many bars in Bangkok come and go, and I think this particular bar name Straps won't last very long at Nana. The fact that they pretend they have ladies which are actually ladyboys clearly is a scam.
Christian G
12-12-17, 13:23
The fact that they pretend they have ladies which are actually ladyboys clearly is a scam.Straps is well know for be a only post-op ladyboys agogo. Just google it and is well reported on various website.
Constitution Day -Monday. Spent the day sight seeing the Grand Palace and what's. Met an American chick just started teaching English here. Went to see a Muy Thai fight with her. Would have enjoyed some evening fun with her but didn't happen. Went back to Baccara and found the girl I was eyeing the night before. Eve was no. 25,26 year old From just north of Bangkok. Solid big silicon tits but she had the most beautiful face. She was a hot version Lisa Ling from American TV. BF 600 baht plus the 3 drinks and tip. Agreed short time was 3000 baht. Pricey I thought. Sorry guys. Taxi back to my hotel (the guys outside Soi Cowboy wanted double price so she and I just walked across the street). Once in she said shower together. Great I thought. She had a nice athletic body. She did Muy Thai for fitness until a motorcycle accident. Her English was practically non existent. Anyway DATY, BBBJ, cover on and the pounding started. Hardly any kissing. Just pecks. She's also ticklish. I can last a while, unfortunately after 20 min she looked like she was in pain. Not the good like like. Pound me baby- but the OMG when you haven't cum yet?! Long story short, I had to let her go even though I paid her the full amount. She seemed sad and very apologetic. No real chemistry and the language barrier was too great. She been at this for 5 months and just was not experienced enough to keep me going. Got tired of trying to chat with her so walked her downstairs. She waved at me when she left, no hugs and kisses. Lame.Wow! I'd have been furious. Amazingly unprofessional of her. I'm sure she was laughing all the way home thinking about how much money she made for 20 min of work. Guys, we just can't let any of the gals get away with this crap. I certainly don't. I would never pay the full amount for a session like that.
Wow! I'd have been furious. Amazingly unprofessional of her. I'm sure she was laughing all the way home thinking about how much money she made for 20 min of work. Guys, we just can't let any of the gals get away with this crap. I certainly don't. I would never pay the full amount for a session like that.Just don't go to Baccara. Those Baccara girls are used to Japanese guys cumming in a couple of minutes. I think that's pretty standard service at Baccara. If you want better service, go to Long Gun or Tilac bar. Those girls can fuck. If you want a younger white skinned chick with service like the guy mentioned, Baccara is the better option.
For those of you that don't like the surprise stretch marked and pruned titted look and are hunting in FL places like Thermae, just get over yourselves and ask the gals straight out. They'll tell you. They certainly don't want to get into a situation with a dude who is really turned off by "mommy body. ".
The older I get the more sensitive I am to it. I've even had to choose a different gal at oilies on occasion when I get upstairs and see bad damage. Now I always ask the mamasans who has produced. Most will tell me and can even elaborate on the extent of the marks. If it is not too bad and I know from reports that the gal is a performer; I might give it a go. Always like two pops at an oily. That second pop can be difficult even if the damage is minimal. Much easier with a pristine stomach, breasts, and genital region. And don't get me started on 'roids. The anal integrity must be intact as well. A hemi can sure be a turn off.
Christian G
12-12-17, 18:19
Wow! I'd have been furious. Amazingly unprofessional of her. I'm sure she was laughing all the way home thinking about how much money she made for 20 min of work. Guys, we just can't let any of the gals get away with this crap. I certainly don't. I would never pay the full amount for a session like that.Agree! She could have at least finish him with a BBBJ-CIM. 3000 + 600 + drinks and tip for a quick suck and fuck, I would not have been happy at all. Sure she did not deserve the full amount.
In many cases it's just an excuse to say "oh you are too big, I'm hurt" or act as if they were sore only for cut the session early.
And don't get me started on 'roids. The anal integrity must be intact as well. A hemi can sure be a turn off.Agreed. That's a huge turnoff. However, although you can ask a girl if she has stretch marks on her stomach and she can tell you, I doubt you can ask them if they have a nice looking bung hole because I doubt they will know.
Wow! I'd have been furious. Amazingly unprofessional of her. I'm sure she was laughing all the way home thinking about how much money she made for 20 min of work. Guys, we just can't let any of the gals get away with this crap. I certainly don't. I would never pay the full amount for a session like that.Fully agree. Based on that report I would have walked her out the door of the hotel (my apartment, since I live here), smiled broadly and handed her a very generous 200 baht for taxi fare, maybe as much as 500 baht if the unfinished fucking was at least pleasant. And have done it that way a few times. It does not sound as though she earned or deserved one baht more than that.
Fully agree. Based on that report I would have walked her out the door of the hotel (my apartment, since I live here), smiled broadly and handed her a very generous 200 baht for taxi fare, maybe as much as 500 baht if the unfinished fucking was at least pleasant. And have done it that way a few times. It does not sound as though she earned or deserved one baht more than that.Which is exactly what I have done (amount included) with gals. And I do it with a smile on my face without any show of temper. I just tell them that I don't want them to do anything that they are uncomfortable with but I expect them to perform like the do with a boyfriend or like in a "sex movie. " Of course it is easier to explain this in Thai, which I do. If more punters stood their ground and refused to pay full price for poor service or excuses, we'd all be having a better time. Grow up guys; you're the customer. You certainly would not settle for this crap with any other service that you purchase. P4 P is no different.
Fully agree. Based on that report I would have walked her out the door of the hotel (my apartment, since I live here), smiled broadly and handed her a very generous 200 baht for taxi fare, maybe as much as 500 baht if the unfinished fucking was at least pleasant. And have done it that way a few times. It does not sound as though she earned or deserved one baht more than that.I don't know. When I posted a while ago about having almost the same exact experience except that I gave the girl less than we had negotiated for not finishing the job, Sygyies seemed to think that I would never be allowed in the bar again after that.
Banana Boi
12-13-17, 03:35
I've even had to choose a different gal at oilies on occasion when I get upstairs and see bad damage. Now I always ask the mamasans who has produced. Most will tell me and can even elaborate on the extent of the marks. .I always wondered if I was allowed to choose a different girl at a Pattaya soapie if she stripped and I saw baby damage. Unlike a mamasan at a BKK oily, I don't think those moronic guys at Pattaya soapies would know shit on the girl's bodies in their soapies. That's why I prefer my gogo girls. I've seen and felt their entire bodies before I ever barfine them.
So were you able to walk in and barfine from the same place again?
I don't know. When I posted a while ago about having almost the same exact experience except that I gave the girl less than we had negotiated for not finishing the job, Sygyies seemed to think that I would never be allowed in the bar again after that.
Undercoverh
12-13-17, 07:29
I recently spent 3 months in Johor Malaysia. The number of Thai hookers there are enormous! No matter what major city I went to the in Malaysia, the escort services were full of Thai hookers. And the prices are cheaper than Bangkok! For example, and Johor Malaysia, across from Singapore, Thai hookers go for about $40 for 45 minutes. In Singapore, the price is little bit higher. The point is why are so many Thai hookers leaving Thailand and going to other countries. You would think that they would be enough work for them in Thailand. I met this 20 year old hot sexy Thai girl from an escort service. The escort services in Malaysia are set up to where you go to hotels and they have 15 to 20 women available for you to select from.
This particular Thai girl was very sexy and I visited her at least three times. I asked her, why would she come to Malaysia to work. She said she could make more money in Malaysia than Thailand. She said that in Thailand there are too many girls and not enough customers. This is really mind-boggling when you realize it's actually true. When you go to Soi 6 in Pattaya, you see hundreds of bar girls standing around waiting for customers, trying to grab you as you walk by. They charge about a thousand Baht + 300 for the room. That's still really cheap by International standards. And these girls are not ugly or old. They're actually very attractive and many of them very young. Same as for Bangkok, you see so many girls as Freelancers. You see so many girls in clubs. You see tons of girls in massage parlors. The reality is there is much more Supply than demand in Thailand for sexual services. It's amazing, to realize this is truly a man's heaven!
I am always fascinated and intrigued by the fact that there are many freelance Thai girls in Thailand that are in their 30s 40s 50s and 60s. This is someone's mother or grandmother, but she is standing on the street waiting for a customer. Occasionally, I have seen a MILF that looks sexy in amateur way. Her clothes might be regular, her shoes not fancy but she seems like she would be a teacher or a office worker at a government agency.
When I came back to Bangkok a couple weeks ago, I met this older Thai lady near Nana. She claims that she was visiting a hotel nearby for a conference sponsored by her job. And she was just walking around Nana to see what it look like. She was 46, but she still look somewhat nice. And she had a nice soft round ass and white skin. I offered that she and I go to a short time hotel nearby and she pretended as if she didn't want to go but she was going to give in. I asked her how much and she said 1000 baht. To make a long story short, when we get to the room and she took off her clothes, she had one of the best looking breast I've seen in a long time big, soft, round with pointy nipples. And she look very sexy naked! She gave me a great BbbJ and her cherry was small, nice and wet. I could tell she did not do the hooker thing on a regular basis. It's wild to imagine that you can walk around Bangkok and pick up a working lady from the office for about a thousand baht. There is truly more hookers than cutomers in Thailand, especially when you factor in the part time freelance hookers that do it occasionally, or maybe once a week, to pick up extra cash to spend on their selves at the mall.
Which is exactly what I have done (amount included) with gals. And I do it with a smile on my face without any show of temper. I just tell them that I don't want them to do anything that they are uncomfortable with but I expect them to perform like the do with a boyfriend or like in a "sex movie. " Of course it is easier to explain this in Thai, which I do. If more punters stood their ground and refused to pay full price for poor service or excuses, we'd all be having a better time. Grow up guys; you're the customer. You certainly would not settle for this crap with any other service that you purchase. P4 P is no different.Yes, for sure I was a total amateur tourist about it. I thought about ditching her with less than agreed since it could just be an act, but hell, not sure if the club or boyfriend had a follow up visit since she knows where I am staying. It's really not enough money for me to worry about but I know I spoiled it for you locals. Anyway, I'm less about the "finish" than the 20 minutes of fucking I got after the shower with a hot Thai.
So on my first visit to Bangkok, I had a taste of all the ways to fuck here.
1. Oillie at Tulip. Anne.
2. Freelancer from Termae. Cake.
3. Bar Fine from Baccara. Eve.
4. Soapie from Lords. Nac.
5. BJ Bar Lo-itas- Mochi. I stopped by my last night as I had some bahts left and a few hours before my flight. I walked in past the girls sitting outside into the actual bar. Met 2 guys and spent about half hour discussing Bitcoin. I decided I was out of my league in the conversation and went out to KC the one with the largest smile at me. Mochi who's name was also Bion Se ("Beyonce") was probably the youngest at 22 year old With some baby fat, but cute. Upstairs was a bunch of couches with curtains around each. Got comfortable, she took her top off, baby wipe, and action started. Pretty good for a while but I knew I need more to pop since I had popped earlier at Lords. Changed to FS pricing (1200) and gave it go. 15 min later I got tired and gave up. Paid, tipped, kiss and headed out.
My final thoughts. Not as much hassle with Ladyboys as I had imagined at both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. I like the more nude options in Soi Cowboy but hot girls at both locations. I have had better and worse service in the USA and German FKKs but YMMV. Great experience and a great deal of appreciation for contributors in this forum. Not sure I would visit again since I prefer thicker Latina types or Russian model types over Asians. What's great is the people are sweet, friendly, helpful. The place is cheap as hell.
I don't know. When I posted a while ago about having almost the same exact experience except that I gave the girl less than we had negotiated for not finishing the job, Sygyies seemed to think that I would never be allowed in the bar again after that.I have not encountered that problem anywhere I have had a problem girl and booted her out with nothing more than generous taxi fare, say 200-500 baht.
I recently spent 3 months in Johor Malaysia. The number of Thai hookers there are enormous! No matter what major city I went to the in Malaysia, the escort services were full of Thai hookers. And the prices are cheaper than Bangkok! For example, and Johor Malaysia, across from Singapore, Thai hookers go for about $40 for 45 minutes. In Singapore, the price is little bit higher. The point is why are so many Thai hookers leaving Thailand and going to other countries. You would think that they would be enough work for them in Thailand. I met this 20 year old hot sexy Thai girl from an escort service. The escort services in Malaysia are set up to where you go to hotels and they have 15 to 20 women available for you to select from.
This particular Thai girl was very sexy and I visited her at least three times. I asked her, why would she come to Malaysia to work. She said she could make more money in Malaysia than Thailand. She said that in Thailand there are too many girls and not enough customers..FYI. Post ops Thai transexuals often work other countries. All over Hong Kong for sure.
I recently spent 3 months in Johor Malaysia. The number of Thai hookers there are enormous! No matter what major city I went to the in Malaysia, the escort services were full of Thai hookers. And the prices are cheaper than Bangkok! For example, and Johor Malaysia, across from Singapore, Thai hookers go for about $40 for 45 minutes. In Singapore, the price is little bit higher. In the red light district of Singapore, the price is 80 SGD (about 50 USD) for 15 minutes. I've not seen them available for 45 minutes (unless pay 3 times). And those girls have sex with 20 guys a day. If you take a girl from Orchard towers, it's 200 SGD for a short time. I don't think they are any cheaper than in Thailand.
In Jakarta, a Thai girl costs about $200 usd for one hour.
Christian G
12-13-17, 14:19
I recently spent 3 months in Johor Malaysia. The number of Thai hookers there are enormous! No matter what major city I went to the in Malaysia, the escort services were full of Thai hookers. And the prices are cheaper than Bangkok! For example, and Johor Malaysia, across from Singapore, Thai hookers go for about $40 for 45 minutes.
In the red light district of Singapore, the price is 80 SGD (about 50 USD) for 15 minutes. I've not seen them available for 45 minutes (unless pay 3 times). And those girls have sex with 20 guys a day. If you take a girl from Orchard towers, it's 200 SGD for a short time. I don't think they are any cheaper than in Thailand.
In Jakarta, a Thai girl costs about $200 usd for one hour.In Kuala Lumpur and surroundings you can fuck thai girls for 160 - 238 MYR (1275 - 1900 baht). Last June in a walk-in hotel in Kota Damansara I fucked a young 22 yo TG (without baby) for 200 MYR (1595 baht) for 45 min. She claimed that she worked in a gogo (Glass House I think) in Pattaya and move to KL due to low season. So she was cheaper in KL.
In hotel Soleil I fucked a TG for 228 MYR (1818 baht) - 45 min, and she claimed that she worked in a big massage parlour on Ratchadpisek Road.
Last June in a walk-in hotel in Kota Damansara I fucked a young 22 yo TG (without baby) for 200 MYR (1595 baht) for 45 min. I had the hottest girl I've ever had in my life in a walk in hotel in KL. Vietnamese girl about 18 years old. What a firm and young body that girl had.
That being said, I absolutely hated the seediness of the situation. Those walk in hotels are run by dudes who are pure evil. I won't do it again. It's the only time I ever felt like it was a true sex slave type of environment.
I am planning to visit a buddy of mine who lives part-time (9 months a year) in near Phuket Town. I'll have a layover of a few days in BKK before I travel to Phuket.
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much.
Any assistance in advance would be helpful.
FYI. Post ops Thai transexuals often work other countries. All over Hong Kong for sure.A lady friend of mine in Beijing recently told me there are four Thai post-op transsexuals working the Mix Bar in Beijing along with two Chinese post-op transsexuals. Apparently the Chinese men love them because they are tall and slim.
I am planning to visit a buddy of mine who lives part-time (9 months a year) in near Phuket Town. I'll have a layover of a few days in BKK before I travel to Phuket.
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much.
Any assistance in advance would be helpful.Try Badoo, Tagged and Thai Friendly. I have my maiden trip to Thailand in about 6 weeks and I have found (I hope) some gems. I have successfully used Badoo and Tagged in Indonesia.
Good luck.
So were you able to walk in and barfine from the same place again?Yes, no problems at all.
I am planning to visit a buddy of mine who lives part-time (9 months a year) in near Phuket Town. I'll have a layover of a few days in BKK before I travel to Phuket.
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much.
Any assistance in advance would be helpful.If you read this forum just a little bit, you will quickly find out that you don't need Craigslist or Backpage in Bangkok. There are just so many better options. If you are not up to doing RTFF, maybe you should think of asking someone to show you around, for a fee. I am sure your buddy from Phuket would do it for free.
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much. I've used Tinder before to set up a few meetings, both P4 P and freebies, but I'm in Bangkok a lot so I can put some effort into the freebies. If you are only there for a few days then don't waste your time with these sites, there are girls everywhere in Bangkok. Just hit the bars in Nana and Soi Cowboy.
Crocodilexp
12-15-17, 06:50
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much.Not sure about Phuket, but in Bangkok I tried a few of the Craigslist listings, and they weren't scams. How could they scam you anyway, unless you do something colossally stupid like paying upfront or meeting at your own home? Not a particularly good value either. I also hate how they usually don't put Line ID in there, so it's a delayed 2 step process just to contact them.
Fanfinfin has much better selection, Line IDs for direct contact, asking prices are about half of Craigslist, but hard to arrange without speaking Thai (and even then, some won't go with Farang).
I am planning to visit a buddy of mine who lives part-time (9 months a year) in near Phuket Town. I'll have a layover of a few days in BKK before I travel to Phuket.
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much.
Any assistance in advance would be helpful.The biggest issues I've had is girls being bigger than pics. Tinder and Thaifriendly are probably the best options.
Robert Long
12-15-17, 07:26
I am planning to visit a buddy of mine who lives part-time (9 months a year) in near Phuket Town. I'll have a layover of a few days in BKK before I travel to Phuket.
I've been seeing adverts on Craigslist and Backpage and I'm wondering if any of these are anything more than just scams. I've RTTF and can't find much.
Any assistance in advance would be helpful.Once you download WeChat, click on Discover, then People Nearby. It will populate with more than you can imagine. Just be sure to ask if they are LB's. And negotiate the price, they won't get offended.
RL.
Christian G
12-15-17, 09:47
Not sure about Phuket, but in Bangkok I tried a few of the Craigslist listings, and they weren't scams. How could they scam you anyway, unless you do something colossally stupid like paying upfront or meeting at your own home? Not a particularly good value either. I also hate how they usually don't put Line ID in there, so it's a delayed 2 step process just to contact them.
I tried to use Craiglist in Pattaya and is a waste of time in my opinion, maybe in BKK is different and more advantageous. In Pattaya many girls don't answer when you ask for their Line ID, some girls just send me a commercial ID start with " at " and I'm not sure what is it, sometimes different ads claim to be a different girls but have the same Line ID. Also many girls try to charge very high price for Pattaya market, funny that the same girls work in beach road or beer bar and you can have them for a third of the price if you avoid CL. In my experience Thaifriendly is better and cheaper.
In a girl infested area such as BKK and Pattaya for sure you won't be needing Craig's list or any other dating site to catch up with ladies. There's no better way than inspecting and having a live chat while grabbing a beer, IMHO if you are on a short visit let's say 2/3 weeks the live opportunities are never-ending.
I tried to use Craiglist in Pattaya and is a waste of time in my opinion, maybe in BKK is different and more advantageous. In Pattaya many girls don't answer when you ask for their Line ID, some girls just send me a commercial ID start with " at " and I'm not sure what is it, sometimes different ads claim to be a different girls but have the same Line ID. Also many girls try to charge very high price for Pattaya market, funny that the same girls work in beach road or beer bar and you can have them for a third of the price if you avoid CL. In my experience Thaifriendly is better and cheaper.
Yes, no problems at all.Sounds good, that's good business sense too. If they shaft a few regulars then word spreads fast.
Roaming Viking
12-16-17, 15:52
Hello to everyone.
The viking has landed in LOS after a two day ordeal to get here.
After some well-needed sleep I ventured out earlier tonight and made my way back to Kasalong. I have been a regular there ever since they opened. But tonite was the just the best. I went with TIK, a 30-something very well-preserved and beautiful lady who provided the best ever BJ CIM. She took me deep, and I mean real deep, and kept on sucking until I was completely drained. Unlike many other providers who stop sucking when you climax and then spit, she just kept on sucking until I was totally spent. The way I like it. Next time I intend to take here upstairs for some fun and games in a private room. Also, she completely disrobed for me without me asking and has a nice body indeed. I hate haggling with them for tips for them to even unbutton their blouse.
I also will call on Snow white and Emmy. Any more info greatly appreciated.
The FL's outside Nana also looked good but maybe later.
Cheers.
P.S. If you appreciate my reports please acknowledge. I need some encouragement (and of course personal impressions of your mongering.
Eszpresszo
12-16-17, 19:19
Hello to everyone.
The FL's outside Nana also looked good but maybe later.
P.S. If you appreciate my reports please acknowledge. I need some encouragement (and of course personal impressions of your mongering.Yes, by all means continue. We could use a fresh perspective. I like the fact that you mentioned street walkers and didn't go straight to the Go-gos. A lot of FR only focus in on the action of the Go-gos. From what I can tell, that's a very small part of the whole mongering scene in Thailand. It just happens to be the most obvious. I was underwhelmed with it all. Nana, Soi Cowboy -during my only visit there. I was more intrigued by the other options, particularly the street meat. Check that out for us!
If anybody here have had recent action with a pregnant or a breast feeding FL og bargirl or even from a massage shop or soapie, kindly reply with details.
I am looking but can't seem to find any.
Thanks in advance.
Robert Long
12-17-17, 07:28
In a girl infested area such as BKK and Pattaya for sure you won't be needing Craig's list or any other dating site to catch up with ladies. There's no better way than inspecting and having a live chat while grabbing a beer, IMHO if you are on a short visit let's say 2/3 weeks the live opportunities are never-ending.Your somewhat wrong. You can meet any lady on any dating site without committing to their service. If you like what you see and you both agree on the price and service then off to the playpen. These sites are alternatives to standing by the road. The quality looks better also and from my experience the service was good. I hate to pay the price in a Go go Bar. Yes you can see the merchandise, but you can also see it with a dating site lady.
Also girl infested does not mean quality infested. Maybe 2 or 3 a day are quality all the rest are mediocre.
RL.
ConquerorVal
12-17-17, 23:40
Stayed 5 nights in what is probably my favourite big city in the whole wide world. I planned to try different venues for p4 p. Initially, went to Annie's which I have to admit was just ok. The girls available were nothing special. But I still chose a girl that was recommended by the mamasan. The young lady had a pretty good body, and was pleasant enough, but the experience was nothing to write home about. The place is also a dive, and it feels like you are in a dark dingy basement. On the way out I saw a very attractive girl that must have just finished. Dang it.
Also, spent couple of evenings at a beer bar located at the entrance of Nana Plaza, where I enjoyed the company of a funny young girl (photo). She was going to come to my hotel on the third night, but I never made it to the bar.
You know you are getting long in the tooth, when girls both in Thailand and Philippines start to call you daddy / dad. I am opting for the sugar daddy explanation and not the Freudian one. During my evening / night bar tours, I was shocked when I entered Suzie Wong, and found every dancer clothed and a very poor choice of girls. On the other hand, Crazy House blew me away, by the sheer size of the crowd and number of girls. Of course the nudity did not hurt. There were some doable girls and I ended up bar fining one, who provided a nice PSE. One of the older entertainers at the bar, took my finger and showed it up her ass. Hmm. Got to love Bangkok, and yes the asshole was clean. I really enjoyed this bar, as the atmosphere was great. I was not that keen on having to tip (my choice) the washroom attendant but he did provide some effective chiro like adjustments. Also, managed to pick a girl from a bar / disco which I did not know where was located due to my intoxicated state. Haha. The girl was quite lovely and nice. So all in all, a good experience. I managed to entertain a massage girl, beer bar girl, freelancer and a CH girl.
HorneeFalang
12-19-17, 02:44
"One of the older entertainers at the bar, took my finger and showed it up her ass."
Yes, for those new Mongers that have not yet experienced the city of angels this interaction best sums up the state of play.
Sure the entertainers these days are heavily tattooed, chubbier and have newly constructed body parts, however it's still a magical place where an entertainer during general chit chat will place your digit in her butt. Its the greatest place on earth!
P.S. If you appreciate my reports please acknowledge. I need some encouragement (and of course personal impressions of your mongering.So much appreciation. Please don't take quiet for a lack of intrigue. You are doing god's work here Sir!
"One of the older entertainers at the bar, took my finger and showed it up her ass."
Yes, for those new Mongers that have not yet experienced the city of angels this interaction best sums up the state of play.
Sure the entertainers these days are heavily tattooed, chubbier and have newly constructed body parts, however it's still a magical place where an entertainer during general chit chat will place your digit in her butt. Its the greatest place on earth!Awesome! And hope it stays that way forever. Reminds me of the girl at a pattaya gogo bar who asked my friend to suck on her tits when he bought her LDs. While looking around it seemed most of the average looking girls were giving an all-access pass to customers to freely explore their bodies while the hotter ones avoided such tactics and mostly stayed clothed. May be I am wrong but that's the vibe I got. My sampling size is very small so may be the regulars have a better take on this.
Awesome! And hope it stays that way forever. Reminds me of the girl at a pattaya gogo bar who asked my friend to suck on her tits when he bought her LDs. While looking around it seemed most of the average looking girls were giving an all-access pass to customers to freely explore their bodies while the hotter ones avoided such tactics and mostly stayed clothed. May be I am wrong but that's the vibe I got. My sampling size is very small so may be the regulars have a better take on this.Yep, that's the problem. Dudes still BF the hot ones, even if they are cold fish. Now, in times gone by the good looking ones had to act about the same. Prissy attitudes just did not fly. And the gals wanted to have fun.
As a newbie to BKK later this week, not mongering. As I have P4P'd in Europe up to now, and having researched on here a lot over past few months, I'm curious to know of variations to my experiences of paying up front, after services have been agreed on. Is Bkk basically the same, or are there any variations for the point at which cash is handed over: any situations with scope for payment after, for instance, such as SWs, Thermae, etc?
Monkeypaw, many of us have been regular contributors to this forum for years. When we read statements like, "Act like a boss and not a sex tourists" and about a monger having "game;" sorry, but it makes us chuckle as we've seen it before. Now, if she and her friends are paying for the bottle, and taking you home and doinking you for free; I'll gladly concede that you have "game. " And give you a deep bow of respect. Better man than I. Otherwise it is she that has game. Why? It's her job to read you and give you what you want in order to extract what she wants. If she sense you have an ego and want to feel like you have "game," then that is the way she will play it. She's done this many times before. Why do you think she is not interested in dudes who have lived here for a time and dudes that speak really good Thai? Because we are not going to play the game. She's not going to get a free night out with her friends drinking 5 k a bottle whisky or the big bucks for what we would probably consider mediocre performance. She's going to get a dude who is going to say, I am going to pay you x and I expect x in return..My exact point. Also I prefer little meat in them so don't want models.
UShobbyist
12-20-17, 02:33
As a newbie to BKK later this week, not mongering. As I have P4P'd in Europe up to now, and having researched on here a lot over past few months, I'm curious to know of variations to my experiences of paying up front, after services have been agreed on. Is Bkk basically the same, or are there any variations for the point at which cash is handed over: any situations with scope for payment after, for instance, such as SWs, Thermae, etc?For massage parlors (oily massage), you pay the massage money to the reception desk based on the massage time of your choice. You pay the girl after sex. For club pickup, you pay the BF to the club. You pay the girl after sex.
Member #4698
12-20-17, 03:23
I'm curious to know of variations to my experiences of paying up front, after services have been agreed on. Is Bkk basically the same, or are there any variations for the point at which cash is handed over: any situations with scope for payment after, for instance, such as SWs, Thermae, etc?1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.
4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.
HorneeFalang
12-20-17, 06:01
Awesome! And hope it stays that way forever. Reminds me of the girl at a pattaya gogo bar who asked my friend to suck on her tits when he bought her LDs. While looking around it seemed most of the average looking girls were giving an all-access pass to customers to freely explore their bodies while the hotter ones avoided such tactics and mostly stayed clothed. May be I am wrong but that's the vibe I got. My sampling size is very small so may be the regulars have a better take on this.One of my earliest memories was witnessing a good friend of mine circling his ice filled glass of whiskey upon a deaf mute entertainers nipples, whilst she humped his knee as he rubbed her kitty to orgasm. That was over 20 years ago and the memory will stay with me for the rest of my years. I really hope other fellow Mongers get to experience similar. I'm certain there are opportunities.
All good points!
But this is for persons like me from a certain country, no brownie points for guessing which one by the way. We were told to pay the full amount for the girl upfront before taking her out at both CH and Windmill in Pattaya. Probably clubs in BKK have same approach.
1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.
4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.
DannyBoy20
12-20-17, 08:02
Hi folks,
Would be travelling to Bangkok for the first time & need help, would like to know from which nightclub I can pick freelancers from Sukhumvit area & prices & please and also suggest good soapy massage parlours around Sukhumvit area & is it also easy to find girls from online dating apps if yes please suggest a few any more info would be greatly appreciated my PM is active.
Happy mongering.
DannyBoy20.
1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!I'm a white guy not a newbie and on occasion I pay up front at Gogo's never been more than 2 k though. Never had a problem.
1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.
4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.All of the above is correct with one slight modification. Some of the go-go's in Patpong, at least awhile ago, required payment in advance for both the girl and the bar fine; full payment was made directly to the bar, not the girl. Although many mongers frown on such a practice as a disincentive to good performance, one of my best go-go girl experiences was with a girl at a bar that required this. What I don't know is whether asking for the entire fee in advance is the norm in Patpong, or whether it just was at this one bar or perhaps a few. OTOH, at Nana and Soi Cowboy one should expect to pay the girl's fee when she is getting ready to leave.
1. Go Go's - the Barfine & drinks tab MUST BE paid before you leave the bar. PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount for her service. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
3. Soapies - PAYMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE ROOM IS STANDARD. Prices are All Inclusive. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.
4. Soi 24-26 Oily Parlors - The timing of the payment varies with the house and often depends on how well they know you. For a newbie expect to pay upfront the entire bill (room & service). Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you.What about ordering services from smooci or a FL on the street?
I had the hottest girl I've ever had in my life in a walk in hotel in KL. Vietnamese girl about 18 years old. What a firm and young body that girl had.
That being said, I absolutely hated the seediness of the situation. Those walk in hotels are run by dudes who are pure evil. I won't do it again. It's the only time I ever felt like it was a true sex slave type of environment.This is definitely happening in places like that and Indonesia, a girl I met in Macau ended up having her passport kept from her unless she paid a debt, and it was so slow there was no chance for her to pay it back. She had already met me outside the sauna many times (without ever asking for anything! And I took a chance and sent her the couple hundred USD she needed to get her passport back. She offered to pay me back in cash, I declined, and she has paid me back another way many times. Still, it was a scary situation for her, and I'm sure many who are in that predicament. Downside to the hobby being unregulated, and criminalized.
2. FL's in Clubs, Thermae & SW's - PAY THE GIRL AFTER THE SESSION the prespecified agreed upon amount. Additonal Tips based on merit are up to you. If a service prepayment is insisted upon, walk away!
What are your thoughts about FLs where no prespecified amount is mentioned or discussed and it is left up to the punter to put a sum of money in her hand or next to her purse afterwards? After all, there isn't a mamasan or papasan on hand with FLs to quote a price, no sign or menu stating services offered and for how much and I doubt most guys who take FLs have read the forums to know what is supposedly considered "standard" these days.
I am particularly curious about your or anyone else's thoughts on this especially with regard to Thermae FLs.
I am a 64 year old Caucasian. Last week I took a very cute young lady from the supposedly more Asian side line-up in Thermae (on the left as you walk in through the Sukhumvit steps door). Being very curious about what would happen if I just went with the flow this time as many guys do, I did not engage at all in my usual screening questions regarding "For what?" details and, interestingly, neither of us mentioned a word about "How much?" either. She just smiled broadly and invitingly as I was standing with a friend at the bar and so I decided to approach her and proceed with my little experiment of just going with the flow on it. She spoke English fairly well, so language was not an issue.
Therefore, I am curious now what you or anyone else would recommend be paid to a Thermae FL if the session turned out to be very good (for example, if she complied with pretty much what you tried to engage in or asked of her in the room) and, by contrast, if it turned out to be disappointing (for example, it was not a complete Jekyll and Hyde transformation, but mostly she just went through the motions of what would only satisfy the least demanding and quick-on-the-trigger customers willing and able to accept the rock bottom basic notion of FS).
What are your thoughts about FLs where no prespecified amount is mentioned or discussed and it is left to the punter to put a sum of money in her hand or next to her purse afterwards? After all, there isn't a mamasan or papasan on hand with FLs to quote a price, no sign or menu stating services offered and I doubt most guys who take FLs have read the forums to know what is supposedly "standard" these days.
I am particularly curious about your or anyone else's thoughts on this especially with regard to Thermae FLs.
I am a 64 year old Caucasian. Last week I took a very cute young lady from the supposedly more Asian side line-up in Thermae (on the left as you walk in through the Sukhumvit steps door). Being very curious about what would happen if I just went with the flow as many guys do, I did not engage at all in my usual screening questions regarding "For what?" details and neither of us mentioned a word about "How much?"
Therefore, I am curious now what you or anyone else would recommend be paid to a Thermae FL if the session turned out to be very good (say, if she complied with pretty much what you tried to engage in or asked of her in the room) and, by contrast, if it turned out to be disappointing (say, it was not a complete Jekyl and Hyde transformation, but mostly she just went through the motions of what would only satisfy the least demanding and quick-on-the-trigger customers willing and able to accept the rock bottom basic notion of FS).I think ST is pretty standard at 2500. I typically do not do LT with first time encounters, so I'm not sure, but I've been quoted 5000 LT for FL at Thermae. Maybe other regulars can confirm if it can be lower?
For an average performance, unless she really frustrated me, I probably would have given the standard 2500 for ST, but maybe 2000 or 1500ST if it was obviously a ploy. If it was very good, I might tip a 200-500.
Also, I was recently quoted 3500ST and 7000-8000 LT for Nana, e. G. Rainbow 2. Is that accurate? Seems extremely pricey.
I think ST is pretty standard at 2500. I typically do not do LT with first time encounters, so I'm not sure, but I've been quoted 5000 LT for FL at Thermae. Maybe other regulars can confirm if it can be lower?
For an average performance, unless she really frustrated me, I probably would have given the standard 2500 for ST, but maybe 2000 or 1500ST if it was obviously a ploy. If it was very good, I might tip a 200-500.
Also, I was recently quoted 3500ST and 7000-8000 LT for Nana, e. G. Rainbow 2. Is that accurate? Seems extremely pricey.Thanks for the reply. And in those cases, did you also tell the girl what you would expect of her for those quoted amounts? Or was the negotiation only about "How much?" and nothing about "For what?" other than for ST vs LT, that is?
What are your thoughts about FLs where no prespecified amount is mentioned or discussed and it is left up to the punter to put a sum of money in her hand or next to her purse afterwards? After all, there isn't a mamasan or papasan on hand with FLs to quote a price, no sign or menu stating services offered and for how much and I doubt most guys who take FLs have read the forums to know what is supposedly considered "standard" these days.I like to go with the flow. Usually works well in Bangkok seldom disappointed especially by FL's, Gogo girls another story. I'm usu'sally quoted 1500 for ST by FL's in Bangkok so that's where'd I start. Maybe 2 k if they rocked my world. It's to / easy to get 1 k FL's on Tinder / TF. Now in AC I had to start asking the girls if they gave good BJ so they'd know that was part of the deal.
I am a 64 year old Caucasian. Last week I took a very cute young lady from the supposedly more Asian side line-up in Thermae (on the left as you walk in through the Sukhumvit steps door). Being very curious about what would happen if I just went with the flow this time as many guys do, I did not engage at all in my usual screening questions regarding "For what?" details and, interestingly, neither of us mentioned a word about "How much?" either. She just smiled broadly and invitingly as I was standing with a friend at the bar and so I decided to approach her and proceed with my little experiment of just going with the flow on it. She spoke English fairly well, so language was not an issue.
Therefore, I am curious now what you or anyone else would recommend be paid to a Thermae FL if the session turned out to be very good (for example, if she complied with pretty much what you tried to engage in or asked of her in the room) and, by contrast, if it turned out to be disappointing (for example, it was not a complete Jekyll and Hyde transformation, but mostly she just went through the motions of what would only satisfy the least demanding and quick-on-the-trigger customers willing and able to accept the rock bottom basic notion of FS).I'd probably give her 2 k if she was quite good. 2. 5 if two pops. Poor service 1 k. Mediocre 1. 5.
I like to go with the flow. Usually works well in Bangkok seldom disappointed especially by FL's, Gogo girls another story. I'm usu'sally quoted 1500 for ST by FL's in Bangkok so that's where'd I start. Maybe 2 k if they rocked my world. It's to / easy to get 1 k FL's on Tinder / TF. Now in AC I had to start asking the girls if they gave good BJ so they'd know that was part of the deal.You bring up some interesting points that went through my mind, too. First of all, Thermae girls are FLs, just the same as some of the girls on the street or those one can hook up with online. And you can probably get what you want from those girls for 1,000-1,500 baht vs Thermae's purported 2,500 baht going rate. Nothing magical happens because you meet the FL in Thermae. It isn't as though they have been screened for their looks, skills, accommodation, fairness, disposition or anything else by the management before being allowed in except for not being a Ladyboy. And I can screen out for that without anyone's help.
So in this case, the girl's only question of me before I was about to take a shower was, "Are you big?" LOL. Not so much, nothing abnormal I don't think. She seemed ok with my size. The first thing she did when she sat down next to me on the bed after taking her shower was to say, "I will serve you. Let me do for you, ok?" Since I was experimenting with the Go With The Flow approach with a Thermae girl and BTW that statement sounded pretty good to me, I told her that would be fine, I trust you, I'll go with that.
Then things went sour. She put a bottle of oil next to us on the bed and I asked her not to put oil on me. I hate oil on my body, especially on my dick and balls. It has only numbed me, never improved the feeling of anything, which is not a good idea for guys like me who are not quick on the trigger as it is. But she ignored my request and dumped a pool of oil in her hand and on my dick and balls it went. I can usually throw out any chance of having an orgasm anytime in the next several hours the instant oil is slathered all over my dick and balls. Hope against hope, I thought maybe she had discovered some miracle brand of oil that would not be irritating to my dick. But she hadn't. Next, she slipped on a condom. Even if that oil had been the miracle product I hoped it might be, wearing a condom will most certainly ensure that I will not have an orgasm. And, sure enough, I didn't.
However, she had plenty of orgasms riding on my sheathed dick in cowgirl position. Or at least she pretended to do so fairly convincingly. I guess 3-4 of them. If her act was to be believed.
Meanwhile, DATY was adamantly refused from the get-go before my lips came within arms length of her pussy. No DFK or any mouth kissing with tongues touching was allowed. All mouth to dick contact was fully covered. In fact, other than putting the oil on it, I'm not sure her hand touched more of my dick uncovered than the very base of the shaft before she slipped the condom on it.
I had taken several good looking young girls from the supposedly Asian line-up on the left side in Thermae over the past couple of years and none of those previous experiences had been this dreary. Then again, this was the first time I had taken the Go With The Flow approach and not negotiated in more detail what my money would be paying for when we get to my room. And it will be the last time. My Thermae FL money is much better spent when I clear it with the girl that I will only pay for DATY and either BBBJ+CIM or BBBJ+BBFS. The only rare exception is if I am so smitten by the girl that I am willing to risk getting none of those things this first time with her and don't want to bring all possibility of getting what I want by having her say "no" in the bar (or, rather, outside the bar in the case of Thermae since I feel that is a better place and time to engage in a real negotiation there; after we have walked out and onto the sidewalk). This was not one of those times.
After she and I had showered again and I got dressed, I slipped 2000 baht into her hand for the approximately 45 minutes of time in the room and 30 minutes on the bed. I didn't get off, she knew it and she seemed not to be particularly bothered by that, did not take steps to "serve" me any further than the most drearily basic definition of no-frills, covered FS. She ignored my first important request not to put any damn oil on my dick. But I realize a much faster on the trigger guy, even wearing a condom, probably would have finished within 2-3 minutes with this girl and that is probably the kind of customer she is used to dealing with. So I felt my 2000 baht payment was more than fair and bordering on generous.
However, she looked at the money and seemed shocked. "Oh no. Short Time is 2,500 baht."
"For what?" I asked. "You ignored my request not to put oil on me, there was no pussy eating, no real kissing, everything was covered, you didn't care about "serving" me enough to even attempt a BBBJ, much less one that finishes like a real blowjob. I'm sorry, but that was really bad sex for me."
"But I have family to take care of!"
"Well, honey, if you need to make more money to take care of your family, you should start learning how to give a real blowjob without a condom." And, with that, I peeled off another 500 baht and gave that to her. We had, after all, engaged in what passes for sex among many customers these days, I hadn't negotiated any particular sexual act beforehand, and she played the "my family" card. In the end, I gave her the going rate for a Thermae girl ST, 2,500 baht, under mild protest.
That is why I was curious what others would have done. For me, my little experiment was indeed informative. I am now fully informed that the best approach for me is to negotiate the "For what?" part of the deal upfront with the "How much?" part being somewhat immaterial. I mean, in Thermae it's going to run somewhere between 1,500 baht at a rock bottom minimum to 3,000 baht at a likely maximum for ST. I am not going to balk and walk from a Thermae girl that I am genuinely attracted to and who has agreed to DATY and either BBBJ+CIM or BBBJ+BBFS for the sake of saving 1,500 baht or less. But I would definitely balk and walk from a Thermae girl who says No to any two of those options no matter how low her acceptable price is.
Then again, this was the first time I had taken the Go With The Flow approach and not negotiated in more detail what my money would be paying for when we get to my room. And it will be the last time. My Thermae FL money is much better spent when I clear it with the girl that I will only pay for DATY and either BBBJ+CIM or BBBJ+BBFS. I curious how you negotiate for BBFS, and how well it works do you just ask if no condom is OK? I get it often enough that I don't worry and BBBJ in Thailand is all but a given as you have illustrated. I think you had a bad experience and I'd chalk it up as that. I have started asking gogo girls if they give good blow jobs and if they say yes I've always gotten BBBJ so far. I've gotten 1500 from thermae girls before I usually establish price. And several for 1500 LT since they often don't have a room or want to go home.
You bring up some interesting points that went through my mind, too. First of all, Thermae girls are FLs, just the same as some of the girls on the street or those one can hook up with online. And you can probably get what you want from those girls for 1,000-1,500 baht vs Thermae's purported 2,500 baht going rate. Nothing magical happens because you meet the FL in Thermae. It isn't as though they have been screened for their looks, skills, accommodation, fairness, disposition or anything else by the management before being allowed in except for not being a Ladyboy. And I can screen out for that without anyone's help.
Honest question to any of the longtime members here-- What would be expected for 1,000-1,500 THB from a FL? I suppose if they are really desperate they would take it, given there are many more girls than customers, but would they be happy, and perform well? Try to upsell once back? Refuse BBBJ, etc?
From what I saw, Thermae FLs were a notch or two above those milling about outside Nana Plaza, and approaching gogos, and we have no barfine, no lady drinks, no BS from the MMS / servers. I saw 2500ST as fair, considering gogos are 3000-3500 (+barfine and lady drinks? True you can't inspect the goods and no guarantee of service.
Honest question to any of the longtime members here-- What would be expected for 1,000-1,500 THB from a FL? I suppose if they are really desperate they would take it, given there are many more girls than customers, but would they be happy, and perform well? Try to upsell once back? Refuse BBBJ, etc?
From what I saw, Thermae FLs were a notch or two above those milling about outside Nana Plaza, and approaching gogos, and we have no barfine, no lady drinks, no BS from the MMS / servers. I saw 2500ST as fair, considering gogos are 3000-3500 (+barfine and lady drinks? True you can't inspect the goods and no guarantee of service.1000 in BKK? A ST from a Nana car park FL.
1000 in Pattaya? Quite a standard rate in beach road for a ST. Late late at night (morning?) you might get her for 700.
You can't compare prices of a ST between a FL and a gogo. Two different price leagues. I don't necessarily mean different derive leauges. In LOS paying more doesn't necessarily mean getting more.
Gogo and bar girls, just as CL or BP or escorts, have their own price standards set by the fact they are picked up in a specific location or arrangement.
Same girl might have two or three different prices.
Honest question to any of the longtime members here-- What would be expected for 1,000-1,500 THB from a FL? I suppose if they are really desperate they would take it, given there are many more girls than customers, but would they be happy, and perform well? Try to upsell once back? Refuse BBBJ, etc?.At that price with a lower Suk SW you can expect a somewhat rushed suck & fuck. I would not expect a leisurely multi-pop GFE. Time of day, day of week, and personal chemistry with the lady are all variables. A BBBJ should be confirmed in advance. As always YMMV.
While a quick and dirty spontaneous opening price point encounter can be good fun, I find a 2300 baht two hour multi-pop PSE oily session to be more satisfying.
SL.
I curious how you negotiate for BBFS, and how well it works do you just ask if no condom is OK? I get it often enough that I don't worry and BBBJ in Thailand is all but a given as you have illustrated. I think you had a bad experience and I'd chalk it up as that. I have started asking gogo girls if they give good blow jobs and if they say yes I've always gotten BBBJ so far. I've gotten 1500 from thermae girls before I usually establish price. And several for 1500 LT since they often don't have a room or want to go home.BBBJ as mere foreplay might be all but a given in Thailand, but a BBBJ to a real CIM finish (many would call that a "blowjob" and call BBBJ as mere foreplay as "oral foreplay", including me) is not a given at all. Unfortunately, that kind of finish must generally be clarified before the act begins unless you are fine with the girl converting what you thought was going to be a blowjob with a real blowjob finish into a handjob with a bit of oral foreplay thrown in. A girl who works in a known BJ Bar might not need to be asked if she will provide a CIM finish, but these days I would not assume that to be the case either and would still ask beforehand just to make sure she hasn't been led to believe by her customers that a BJ ends some other way but orally / CIM.
On the subject of BBFS, personally I do not recommend (if that is even the right word) it unless you have taken the same precautions I have taken with regard to the option; I am circumcised, I got a vasectomy many years ago, I always have a current (within 2-3 months) HIV / STI medical blood check document from a legitimate and reputable testing clinic such as Thailand Red Cross showing Negative / Non-Reactive / Normal results, I always roll out of bed to wash my dick and balls with soapy water within minutes of finishing and take a leak. It isn't perfect, nothing is and I don't expect it to be, but in my case doing this must have contributed to keeping me STI-free and unplanned pregnancy-free through decades of BB sex with thousands of women all around the world, most of them being P4 P girls. This is not an endorsement, just stating my personal experience and what I feel has kept me and my partners safer from my BB life choice due to my never being able to finish while wearing a condom.
My general thoughts on P4P negotiation for virtually any activity you want can be found in Posts #33419 and #33429 in this thread. I will just re-post most of it here now to save you the search and have since cleaned up and clarified some messaging in the original text:
Different circumstances call for a different approach, but for me the circumstances generally fall into one of these 3. And in all cases it is assumed I am attracted to the girl enough to want to be with her, not just responding to any girl approaching me:
1. I am so smitten by the girl there is no need to ask anything specific because I honestly do not care if the only thing I get out of the experience this time is DATY, as long as I get her out of the bar and into my room where the real chemistry for how much GFE will be had and time will be spent is ultimately established. It happens. In a case like that, I might even be the one to ask if she wants to go barfine before she asks me, which is rare because I would much rather the girl ask me first, and most do. If this particular type of girl asks me first, I still would probably not ask her about anything specific, just pretend to give it some thought and eventually say yes. LOL.
2. It matters what I get in the room tonight, the girl asks me to pay her barfine but she does not bring up an amount of money for her. My interview process would go something like this, keeping it fun and playful:
- Pay your barfine? What will we do in the room?
"Ha ha. Everything. Up to you."
- Everything, up to me? I like everything, up to me. You do good sa-moke?
"Sa-moke?"
- Blowjob. You give good blowjob, cum in mouth everything, no condom? Will you do that for me?
"Yes, I will do that for you."
End of interview process. If her response is notably negative, I bail. If it is notably positive, I am in.
I don't ask anything more in this regard unless she brings it up and wants to talk about it more. I now have heard everything of value that I could possibly learn in the bar BECAUSE belaboring the subject longer in the bar accomplishes little and all of the more important matters in terms of how good or how long ANYTHING gets will be established as nature takes its course when we are alone in the room and she has really gotten more comfortable with me. It will not be learned when we are both dealing with a ton of distractions and interruptions in the bar. My question about how she would finish a blowjob is asked only to establish a floor, a fall back position below which I do not want to go if our chemistry, the boom-boom conditions, whatever does not go as well as I want in the room. I may have no intention of going for a blowjob with this girl but I ask the question (that her response elicited, BTW) anyway. I wind up boom-booming, my way (bareback), girls who give that answer about 65% of the time or more. I go for the now already agreed upon real blowjob with a CIM finish the other 35% of the time. Which is a perfect boom-boom to blowjob ratio for me.
3. It matters what I get in the room tonight, the girl asks me to pay her barfine and at some point brings up an amount of money she wants me to pay her. Some guys take this as a sure sign to bail, the girl bringing up how much money she wants, that is. I used to feel that way too. But I have since learned it is actually a nifty opportunity to get a whole host of important issues hammered down and out of the way long before we get to the room. I welcome it now. Recognize that she has thrown a hardball by citing her dream number baht amount she wants me to give her. So it is time for me to throw a hardball right back. But it won't be a hardball about how much money I will give her. It will be a hardball about the level of pleasure I would expect if I paid her dream amount. It would go something like this:
Me - "3,000 baht? Hmmm. If I pay a lady 3,000 baht I would need her to (and this is where I ask for the world. Fill in with whatever your best P4 P experience would be; Long Time until noon tomorrow, multiple pops, BB this or that, DFK, shaved pussy, you name it)"
Her - "oh no, I cannot do XYZ. But the other things ok."
Me - "hmmm. Well, if you don't do XYZ, then I can only give you 2,000 baht. You ok?
"ok".
Maybe it will go back and forth a couple more times until she gets me to another number or she agrees to do something more. But this can still be done playfully and fun. I have had plenty of great, hassle free experiences with very good girls this way because a lot of the stuff I'd rather not have a conversation about in the room has already been settled and now we can work on that chemistry to make it all more relaxed, enjoyable and agreeable.
After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Me - "3,000 baht? Hmmm. If I pay a lady 3,000 baht I would need her to (and this is where I ask for the world. Fill in with whatever your best P4 P experience would be; Long Time until noon tomorrow, multiple pops, BB this or that, DFK, shaved pussy, you name it)"
Her - "oh no, I cannot do XYZ. But the other things ok."
Me - "hmmm. Well, if you don't do XYZ, then I can only give you 2,000 baht. You ok?
"ok".Are you having this conversation in Thai? I can't even remember the last time I found a thai girl who spoke English well enough to understand a conversation like that in English.
However, she looked at the money and seemed shocked. "Oh no. Short Time is 2,500 baht."
"For what?" I asked. "You ignored my request not to put oil on me, there was no pussy eating, no real kissing, everything was covered, you didn't care about "serving" me enough to even attempt a BBBJ, much less one that finishes like a real blowjob. I'm sorry, but that was really bad sex for me."
"But I have family to take care of!"
"Well, honey, if you need to make more money to take care of your family, you should start learning how to give a real blowjob without a condom." And, with that, I peeled off another 500 baht and gave that to her. We had, after all, engaged in what passes for sex among many customers these days, I hadn't negotiated any particular sexual act beforehand, and she played the "my family" card. In the end, I gave her the going rate for a Thermae girl ST, 2,500 baht, under mild protest.
That is why I was curious what others would have done. For me, my little experiment was indeed informative. I am now fully informed that the best approach for me is to negotiate the "For what?" part of the deal upfront with the "How much?" part being somewhat immaterial. I mean, in Thermae it's going to run somewhere between 1,500 baht at a rock bottom minimum to 3,000 baht at a likely maximum for ST. I am not going to balk and walk from a Thermae girl that I am genuinely attracted to and who has agreed to DATY and either BBBJ+CIM or BBBJ+BBFS for the sake of saving 1,500 baht or less. But I would definitely balk and walk from a Thermae girl who says No to any two of those options no matter how low her acceptable price is.2 k is probably more than I would have given, and to tell you the truth I would have called off the session long before then. When DFK, DATY, et al was refused, I would have explained why I was not happy and also told her that I did not expect nor want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with, gotten up, dressed, given her between 500 and 1 k, and left.
How did the exchange end for you? Was she upset or did she at least pretend to understand your position?
HornyBabaji
12-21-17, 15:48
Hi folks,
Would be travelling to Bangkok for the first time & need help, would like to know from which nightclub I can pick freelancers from Sukhumvit area & prices & please and also suggest good soapy massage parlours around Sukhumvit area & is it also easy to find girls from online dating apps if yes please suggest a few any more info would be greatly appreciated my PM is active.
Happy mongering.
DannyBoy20.Insanity and levels, these are the clubs from where I pick free lancers in Sukhumvit.
After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.I'm trying to figure out if you're being tongue-in-cheek here, as the photos you attached look quite good.
Member #4698
12-21-17, 19:03
I'm trying to figure out if you're being tongue-in-cheek here, as the photos you attached look quite good.Yo tambien!
Jimmy Boy 99
12-21-17, 19:14
I'm trying to figure out if you're being tongue-in-cheek here, as the photos you attached look quite good.I think it's obvious that he was being sarcastic. By calling an attractive girl ugly he was in effect boasting of how good-looking the ones he considers pretty ones are.
Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).
JamesRider
12-21-17, 20:22
Sorry it's off topic I know but can anyone tell me if it is possible to view the reports in chronological order rather than newest first? It's ass-backwards to every other forum I've read and does my head in. Because you read the reactions to the reports before you read the reports themselves.
I've looked in the 'settings' bit but can't for the life of me figure out how to read posts in the 'proper' order.
Apologies for the interruption.
JR.
Crocodilexp
12-22-17, 00:38
"Well, honey, if you need to make more money to take care of your family, you should start learning how to give a real blowjob without a condom." And, with that, I peeled off another 500 baht and gave that to her. We had, after all, engaged in what passes for sex among many customers these days, I hadn't negotiated any particular sexual act beforehand, and she played the "my family" card. In the end, I gave her the going rate for a Thermae girl ST, 2,500 baht, under mild protest.
That is why I was curious what others would have done.IMHO, once you had proper sex with her, and for 30 minutes at that, it's unfair to reduce the rate you agreed to in advance. Sure, you got far less than you expected, but maybe she considers she gave more than she usually does, given that her usual customer might finish within 3 minutes, as you mentioned. On the other hand, she does have a duty to make you finish, even if it's with a bad HJ after you go soft. She cannot claim the full price if she refuses to finish you off, but it's different if you stop the session.
If you did not agree a price in advance, up to you, of course, down to a reasonable minimum (1000-1500 in this case, I think).
I try to cancel this type of session early on, before sex had taken place. In that case, you don't owe her much except travel money and time (and time is cheap). Oil on dick, strike one, maybe if she's hot or it's a misunderstanding, I'd let that one slide. Refusing a BBBJ, strike two, and she's out with 200-500 baht at most.
After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.Is there anyway you can share that Line ID? Do you have premium here? I'll buy it to PM you if so.
Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).You joking? My best scores are from the smart girls that wait outside to pick you off before you even get inside. Assuming not ladyboy LOL.
After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.Nice score.
2 k is probably more than I would have given, and to tell you the truth I would have called off the session long before then. When DFK, DATY, et al was refused, I would have explained why I was not happy and also told her that I did not expect nor want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with, gotten up, dressed, given her between 500 and 1 k, and left.
How did the exchange end for you? Was she upset or did she at least pretend to understand your position?Ordinarily, I would have called it off earlier, too. And have. The instant she put that oil on my dick after I told her I did not want that I would have told her it's over, gotten up, showered, got dressed and given her 500 baht or so as I was putting her out the door. But this was my "go with the flow" experiment and had already decided to go with whatever she had in mind to "serve" me, as she put it. Only weirdly in the back of my mind did I think that maybe she had some fantastic trick up her sleeve to turn everything around and suddenly become a good or passionate lover. She did seem pretty confident about her sexual skills and powers. LOL. I know, I know. Experiment concluded, results now known.
The exchange ended rather coldly. No apology from her or even a thank you for coughing up an additional 500 baht above what I decided was fair if not generous. Since I live in a small apartment complex without a front desk so to speak, I need to escort the girl down to my front door to let her out with my security card. We were both silent in the elevator since I really had nothing else to say, I opened the front door of the complex for her, she walked out and I merely said "bye" and went back in. She seemed genuinely disheartened that what she delivered hadn't been even remotely acceptable enough to get me off. But not disheartened enough to offer another, more realistically sexual approach, of course.
I realize that on some level I perpetuated in her mind the possible rap on Farang customers among some Thermae girls; that we expect more of them than their typical current apparently very low-demand customer base and, not getting it, we just might not pay as much as they hope we'll pay (bearing in mind, no amount of money was discussed previously in this case). For which I most happily accept that responsibility.
Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).I wonder how the staff at Thermae can verify 100% that a girl is not TS or post-op? I would also like to learn this trick.
I realize that on some level I perpetuated in her mind the possible rap on Farang customers among some Thermae girls; that we expect more of them than their typical current apparently very low-demand customer base and, not getting it, we just might not pay as much as they hope we'll pay (bearing in mind, no amount of money was discussed previously in this case). For which I most happily accept that responsibility.Good for you. It is a shame our Asian counterparts are not as demanding as we are. If they were, the scene would still be quite good. I will tell you that when the mainland punters arrive in droves, the gals will have a wake up call. They are demanding.
I'm new to mongering in Thailand (but not new to mongering abroad) so forgive me if my questions are foolish.
I am flying into Bangkok and landing at 2 am. I am heading into the Grand Inn Hotel, so I am guessing I will be all checked in and ready to go at 4 am. What route would you guys go for a release at this time and local that wouldn't be too taxing on the body? Nana and Thermae are closed, right? And smooci is a 2 hour minimum which may be rough after a 24 hour travel from across the Pacific. Is there a delivery massage service out there? I know in places like Jakarta you can have a girl come to your room that late, give an amazing post-flight massage, then HJ or BBBJ or FS depending what you want to pay and how lazy you are after your flight. Is my best bet just walking some street and finding a FL?
Also, can anyone offer any advice for NYE? Are places like Soi22 and Nana packed to the gill? Or dead as girls visit home? Any insight? I'm wondering if this is a good night to get out the Soi22 and try a few bars or a really bad night for it (in which case I can try to find a girl another way).
Any advice would be appreciated.
But this was my "go with the flow" experiment and had already decided to go with whatever she had in mind to "serve" me, as she put it. Only weirdly in the back of my mind did I think that maybe she had some fantastic trick up her sleeve to turn everything around and suddenly become a good or passionate lover. She did seem pretty confident about her sexual skills and powers. LOL. I know, I know. Experiment concluded, results now known.Chalk it up to bad luck and move on LOL. Don't give up so quick happens to everyone. It's funny I thought the first girl that started me off with a lubed hand job was ripping me off. Until she started a BJ and put on the condom and I was like wow this is so much better.
So last night I decided I'd go with the flow and check out Jomtien's night scene got off at Soi 7 and man lots of punters in the bars but a few interesting possibilities decided to wander up to Rho plaza and come back if necessary. Anyhow not finding much then this skinny but a bit weathered girl says how about a drink and I start to wander off and I'm like what am I going to walk around all night. So I say great. She then proceeds to tell me she's not working there just helping a friend, not go with you etc, and I'm like grrr okay have a drink and leave. Then her friend starts dancing on the stripper pole and I say hey can you do that and she starts putting on a show. Well that changes the mood. And she's rubbing on me saying been divorced three years no men, whatever LOL. So now she's ready to leave so we grab the baht bus back to pattaya. She takes her clothes off and wow looks like a 20 year old with these nice real "see" sized cups. Proceeds to ravish me like a girl in heat we finish up and is oh no we're going again you do with me as you want all night. We go again bit later. She leaves again in morning, never asks for tip, taxi fare anything. I'm only out the 300 BF for friend, 220 drinks, and 20 baht for busor 540 total. Best score I've had in awhile. Might be going to Jomtien more often.
"I'm like Evil Knievel, I get paid for the attempt."
I do think that at some point with a girl there is an implicit social contract to pay in-full whether your experience is exactly what you want, or not. And that point is usually at penetration.
Yeah, I understand that if you go to a restaurant and the dish is terrible you can send it back. But you also don't get a refund or discount from a venue if a concert wasn't to your liking, etc. Our hobby probably falls somewhere in between but I tend to honor the agreed upon price and use tips to compensate for performance / enjoyment.
Met up with Vlady at the Subway near Soi 7/1. Normally she works at in lobby of a certain 5 star hotel on Sukhumvit. She looks better with full make up, than after sex. Perhaps it's because of her style of sex. Physically she is 24, 5'7" and about 115 lbs with average boobs (B plus? I was introduced to her by another ISG member who I met previously and we swapped intel on UTR freelancers. Honestly she was just so so in bed. A bit disappointed that she told me she was an anal only girl. This reminds of some of the girls in Japan who are considered virgins by not letting guys fuck them in the pussy, but ass only is okay. Wish I knew ahead of time before I DATY for like 30 minutes, but not knowing it was going to be all anal all the time. Boring. Anyways for 3000 baht for 90 minutes of DATY, BBBJ, anal sex multiple positions, HJ, with ATM action wasn't too bad. Her BJ skills are below average so I had to finish with an oil handjob with COF. We traded WhatsApp info in case I felt the need bang the brown round on another night. I think I'll pass.
FYI. She almost caught me snapping a photo of her after the session. She said, "You photo me?" I was like "Playing Texas Hold them. " Close call. Don't want the Russian mafia after me. Things I do and risk for ISG sharing.
"I'm like Evil Knievel, I get paid for the attempt."
I do think that at some point with a girl there is an implicit social contract to pay in-full whether your experience is exactly what you want, or not. And that point is usually at penetration.
Yeah, I understand that if you go to a restaurant and the dish is terrible you can send it back. But you also don't get a refund or discount from a venue if a concert wasn't to your liking, etc. Our hobby probably falls somewhere in between but I tend to honor the agreed upon price and use tips to compensate for performance / enjoyment.I think your points and analogy have merit if there is an agreed upon price established beforehand and if it then only comes down to the quality of the meal ordered. But what if in your restaurant analogy no prices were posted on the menu, it was left up to you to decide what to pay on this particular night, the chef said trust me, I know you're going to enjoy tonight's special meal. And when the waiter pulled a bottle of Tabasco Sauce out of his pocket you said, "No Tabasco Sauce for me, please. I really hate hot and spicy food", but he opened the bottle and covered your entire meal with it anyway, making what turned out to be tonight's lousy chef's special meal even more unpaletable? That is much closer to what occurred in my case.
To further the analogy, though, I have no intention of avoiding this restaurant (Thermae) in the future. I have had some pretty good meals there recently and for a reasonable price. But from now on I will stick to my usual pattern of clarifying with the chef what I prefer to eat, no surprise chef special meals, and if the waiter whips out a bottle of Tabasco Sauce, being on greater alert next time I will literally pick up my plate and move it out of his reach until he puts that damn bottle back in his pocket. LOL.
"I'm like Evil Knievel, I get paid for the attempt."I'm not sure that's a good analysis. In Evil's case, if he failed the jump and crashed, that was more entertaining than when he succeeded.
I'm not sure that's a good analysis. In Evil's case, if he failed the jump and crashed, that was more entertaining than when he succeeded.LOL. Good catch. In fact, I think it was implicit in Evil's statement that he knew audiences flocked to his most famous stunts in order to be witness to another of his spectacular failed attempts, not to witness him actually reaching the other side of the canyon safe and sound. That is quite the opposite of what we're talking about here. I doubt a P4P provider would garner many takers if she became more renown for her epic failures than for her happy ending successes.
Met up with Vlady at the Subway near Soi 7/1. Normally she works at in lobby of a certain 5 star hotel on Sukhumvit. She looks better with full make up, than after sex. Perhaps it's because of her style of sex. Physically she is 24, 5'7" and about 115 lbs with average boobs (B plus? I was introduced to her by another ISG member who I met previously and we swapped intel on UTR freelancers. Honestly she was just so so in bed. A bit disappointed that she told me she was an anal only girl. This reminds of some of the girls in Japan who are considered virgins by not letting guys fuck them in the pussy, but ass only is okay. Wish I knew ahead of time before I DATY for like 30 minutes, but not knowing it was going to be all anal all the time. Boring. Anyways for 3000 baht for 90 minutes of DATY, BBBJ, anal sex multiple positions, HJ, with ATM action wasn't too bad. Her BJ skills are below average so I had to finish with an oil handjob with COF. We traded WhatsApp info in case I felt the need bang the brown round on another night. I think I'll pass.
FYI. She almost caught me snapping a photo of her after the session. She said, "You photo me?" I was like "Playing Texas Hold them. " Close call. Don't want the Russian mafia after me. Things I do and risk for ISG sharing.Anal only service offering can have an effect on elasticity of the hole in the long run. Was it tight enough for a good bang?
Will be there next week and have already lined up couple of oily girls who shared there whatsapp numbers. This is an out of office arrangement for the girls. Not sure if that has any advantage for me, except that the girl gets to keep all the money max cut out of the meeting and therefore in good mood. And even when I go to oilies, I choose the girl and ask for outcalls rather than action inside small and sometimes dirty rooms. Addict and 102 are probably exceptions to this?
Sorry it's off topic I know but can anyone tell me if it is possible to view the reports in chronological order rather than newest first? It's ass-backwards to every other forum I've read and does my head in. Because you read the reactions to the reports before you read the reports themselves.
I've looked in the 'settings' bit but can't for the life of me figure out how to read posts in the 'proper' order.
Apologies for the interruption.
JR.Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be possible (anymore) to change the order, despite this FAQ:
"Can I change the order of posts?
You have a choice over how you view threads. When you're in a thread, look at the top bar. On the right hand side you'll see 'Display Mode'. Click on this and it lets you change how posts are ordered. "
I cannot find this 'Display Mode' anywhere. Not in the settings nor in the threads.
Normally she works at in lobby of a certain 5 star hotel on Sukhumvit. Not for long anymore I'm afraid, now that you've posted her pics here.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-23-17, 13:06
Not for long anymore I'm afraid, now that you've posted her pics here.I have reported his post to Admin for taking and posting pictures without the consent of the other party. Hopefully it will be deleted quickly before too much damage is done to her.
Anal only service offering can have an effect on elasticity of the hole in the long run. Was it tight enough for a good bang?Perhaps she is anal only for guys with small dicks? It's possible she took one look at his dick and realized he wouldn't feel anything if using her pussy. I find it hard to believe she would be anal only for every guy, including guys with large penises. Like you say, her ass would be ragged.
How much do free lance Russian chicks cost in Bangkok anyway? I've seen plenty of them but never met one I liked enough to try.
Perhaps she is anal only for guys with small dicks? It's possible she took one look at his dick and realized he wouldn't feel anything if using her pussy. I find it hard to believe she would be anal only for every guy, including guys with large penises. Like you say, her ass would be ragged.
How much do free lance Russian chicks cost in Bangkok anyway? I've seen plenty of them but never met one I liked enough to try.Also possible due to some physical conditions, a girl can't enjoy sex naturally even though these conditions are very rare. Reminds me of a hot redhead who did BBBJ s with CIM and anal only. She wouldn't even let FIV because of the pain it causes.
Also possible due to some physical conditions, a girl can't enjoy sex naturally even though these conditions are very rare. Reminds me of a hot redhead who did BBBJ s with CIM and anal only. She wouldn't even let FIV because of the pain it causes.Might have been a dude with a botched sex change surgery.
XRatedBangkok
12-23-17, 17:37
Friday 22nd December and Saturday 23rd. WTF?!
After my stay 3 week stay in Pattaya, I had a one night layover in Bangkok. Ran into this 23 year old girl outside of Thermae's back entrance by Hooters. Looks wise she was just so so, not a real beauty, about 5'5" and 105 lbs with large natural perky tits and fair skin. We went inside for a quick chat a drink. I was already buzzing when we agreed to the deed. Her performance was off the chart though. I was hesitant to kiss her because of her ugliness. But we did some DFK because I was drunk. She happily obliged with a BBBJ finish with CIM. I tried keep her head and eyes down because I didn't want to look at her not so pretty face. I was afraid her looks might've turned me off. Anyways afterwards, we exchanged LINE, in case I needed a desperate drunk fuck for cheap. 2 hours for 2500 baht. I snuck a quick photo of her ass. Pretty nasty ass in my honest opinion. That's why I just stuck to missionary, but then I had to look at her face. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.Like Dog7979 said: Is there anyway you can share that Line ID? Maybe as a PM?
Regards.
Perhaps she is anal only for guys with small dicks? It's possible she took one look at his dick and realized he wouldn't feel anything if using her pussy. I find it hard to believe she would be anal only for every guy, including guys with large penises. Like you say, her ass would be ragged.
How much do free lance Russian chicks cost in Bangkok anyway? I've seen plenty of them but never met one I liked enough to try.Not sure where your bitterness comes from. But seems to me, many of your posts are always insulting Asians, complaining about racism. Yet you choose to monger in an Asian country. I guess you placed me on your "Blocked List. " That's why I couldn't see your original posting. And yet you continue to talk trash when my original report on Vlady had nothing to do with you. Very brave of you indeed!
Like Dog7979 said: Is there anyway you can share that Line ID? Maybe as a PM?
Regards.Please read the last paragraph of post #40043 in this thread. Thanks you.
Not for long anymore I'm afraid, now that you've posted her pics here.There are 18 5-star hotels along Sukhumvit. Good luck.
Such a risk to pick up a "girl" directly outside of Thermae instead of inside tho. (even though she looks legit).A few ladyboys have sneaked into Thermae for time to time anyways. Ladyboys don't have a problem telling you they are ladyboys. The post ops ones are working SMOOCI, posing as girls. Look closely next time at a certain agency next time. Also this is the back entrance to the bar. It's across from Hooters and if you enter this way, no drink buying needed. The ladyboys hang out on the Sukhumvit entrance. Just grab and check if you are worried. I'd be more worried if they kept on using KY to lube themselves instead naturally getting wet.
Anal only service offering can have an effect on elasticity of the hole in the long run. Was it tight enough for a good bang?So so. Like I said. Not my cup of tea.
I have reported his post to Admin for taking and posting pictures without the consent of the other party. Hopefully it will be deleted quickly before too much damage is done to her.I appreciate the effort but don't hold your breath. I think most pictures here are posted without the consent of the other party.
A couple of years ago a guy posted pictures of a girl here in which the name of the company she worked for was visible. Despite several complaints the pictures were not removed.
Mates, am a Londoner & in Bangkok tomorrow and day after. Wanted to explore lords, can someone give me an idea of the location to be told to cabbie so as not to get ripped off. Also any reco on any name / number of girl there would be appreciated. Much appreciate Thailand forum and contribution from all. Merry X'Mas.
Xie Xie.
HorseTrader
12-24-17, 13:56
Might have been a dude with a botched sex change surgery.Perhaps you noticed the narrow hips too.
Banana Boi
12-24-17, 14:11
Friday 22nd December and Saturday 23rd. WTF?!Don't go to crazy house. Go to patpong. Spent another wonderful night a couple days ago at the patpong bars natty recommended.
Patpong gogo bars more like pattaya. Super friendly girls and decent mileage for a drink. No one pushes for drinks. My girl had 2 drinks in 2+ hours. She just wanted to hang with me cause she was having fun. She was very pleased to see a 300 baht tip when I left.
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