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Banana Boi
07-29-18, 01:32
Most of the girls just can't take the harder pounding by the bigger dick. They aren't just reaching down your pants for that lady drink you bought them, they are also checking out the size of your package to gauge their answer to the barfine question.If the girl already reached down your pants they should already know what your dick size is before they let you barfine them. Your 11 inch dick should not have come as a surprise to the girl. No young, petite Thai girl wants to be jackhammered by a guy for an hour straight whether the guy has a 7 inch or 11 inch dick, especially if the guys weighs over 100 kg like many men in Thailand do.


To my fellow Americans: Please don't tell me I am the only American here that doesn't have an 11 inch dick.

Really seems that way when you read boards like these.

Nyezhov
07-29-18, 04:23
If the girl already reached down your pants they should already know what your dick size is before they let you barfine them. Your 11 inch dick should not have come as a surprise to the girl. No young, petite Thai girl wants to be jackhammered by a guy for an hour straight whether the guy has a 7 inch or 11 inch dick, especially if the guys weighs over 100 kg like many men in Thailand do.

Really seems that way when you read boards like these.Wheeew, this American is relieved. Lucky me with my 3" wiggler and 3 minutes of stamina.

I need to start training the girls for quick visits at 1/3 the price.

Perhaps I should negotiate by the inch.

Marlboro Red
07-29-18, 05:15
Hi,

I have read the forum and I am planning to visit Thermae. Does anyone have another other suggestions of places to go pickup freelances or just look around? I know of the normal places like NANA plaza, etc, but I am also interested in going out, say to a club or disco, etc.

Reading up, it seem that 2500 for a ST is the norm, as I do not want to upset the market, as they say.

For me, this will be my only trip on BKK for a while, so I want to make it worth my while (aka, find the nicer ladies), so any suggestion on bars in nana plaza would also be great. ? I read through most of the post, so I do have a rough idea on where to visit.

Thanks.

Robert Long
07-29-18, 06:58
To my fellow Americans: Please don't tell me I am the only American here that doesn't have an 11 inch dick.Bill Maher on HBO has a great monolog at the end of his show. In a recent monolog he mentioned that the average male gets off in 108 seconds. That is what the WG's are hopping for when they say one POP. And I am sure that the horney Japanese are meeting that average. I have pulled many ladies out of Thermae and at my age it takes awhile to get off. But each lady would not stop or even suggest it until I finished. Sometimes up to 2 hours. A few complained when they had a orgasm because they said it made them tired and they had to go back and catch another customer. It made them too lazy to return to the club. Fortunately I am normally endowed medium sized. And I have asked some girls and they confirm perfect size for good sex.

One of the reasons I don't pull WG's from gogo clubs is they have a different attitude. They are on the quantity program. Get as many as you can every night. Even if they know you and you are a return customer they still are in hurry. Of course it depends on the amount you want to pay them.

RL.

Mogwai
07-29-18, 08:16
Coming to Bangkok early in morning and leaving same day in night. Are there hotels in Sukhumvit side which rents for the day or by hour? Don't want to pay for 2 nights.I think the best you can do is email some hotels, give them your arrival and check out time, and ask them for a good deal. Maybe you don't need house keeping so that might help.


They will let you check in after 6:00 am for 1000 baht.Well I guess that depends on the hotel and the room price, doesn't it? What if the room is 1000 per night or less?

Kenichii
07-29-18, 10:15
Hi,

I have read the forum and I am planning to visit Thermae. Does anyone have another other suggestions of places to go pickup freelances or just look around? I know of the normal places like NANA plaza, etc, but I am also interested in going out, say to a club or disco, etc.

Reading up, it seem that 2500 for a ST is the norm, as I do not want to upset the market, as they say.

For me, this will be my only trip on BKK for a while, so I want to make it worth my while (aka, find the nicer ladies), so any suggestion on bars in nana plaza would also be great. ? I read through most of the post, so I do have a rough idea on where to visit.

Thanks.Try khao san road.

Backpacks tourist must visit place.

Many bar and club.

Many FL.

Try nightclub between asok and nana.

If you lucky you might found some girl for free for the night.

As long you cool and fun.

Breadman
07-29-18, 11:48
If the girl already reached down your pants they should already know what your dick size is before they let you barfine them. Your 11 inch dick should not have come as a surprise to the girl. No young, petite Thai girl wants to be jackhammered by a guy for an hour straight whether the guy has a 7 inch or 11 inch dick, especially if the guys weighs over 100 kg like many men in Thailand do. Really seems that way when you read boards like these.125 kilo's here BB, we've met before so you can somewhat vouch for my weight. I was around 130 kilo's when we met but I've slimmed down some. Think you can second that I'm not a 'jolly' round fat guy. As to girls reaching into my pants, that's usually only the smart veterans who do that. I prefer the younger 18 year olds fresh off the boat. Can never tell though if they are screaming with delight or fright. But I can give them perfect directions to the hospital that will cure their cough and allow them to go back to the gogo bar with the 2000 baht I gave them for a fantastic short long time.


To my fellow Americans: Please don't tell me I am the only American here that doesn't have an 11 inch dick.Never said 'American', said those who aren't of Asian decent. I'm not sure if I should included mixed races that are half Asian seeing that they might have acquired a larger package from the gene pool.

Smoothy
07-29-18, 11:59
Fortunately I am normally endowed medium sized. And I have asked some girls and they confirm perfect size for good sex.Amazing. Do they also say "Welcome, handsome man!" as you walk by the bars? If so, it must be because you are handsome.

I have about a four incher and the girls tell me mine is also the perfect size for good sex. So I'm guessing you have a four incher too? Cool. Hell, some of the girls even tell me I have the biggest one they have ever had. I find that kind of hard to believe, but who am I to argue with them.

Member #4698
07-29-18, 13:28
One of the reasons I don't pull WG's from gogo clubs is they have a different attitude. They are on the quantity program. Get as many as you can every night. Even if they know you and you are a return customer they still are in hurry. Of course it depends on the amount you want to pay them.I would roughly estimate that I source 70% of my BKK girls from Go Go's (90% of my Pattaya girls) and what you are reporting is not my usual experience. Going back at least the last 5 years, a vast majority of my Go Go girls are happy to spend 3 or 4 hours with me (1 shot / modified ST), drink, watch Thai TV in bed, go out for dinner afterwards, and are in no rush to return to their bars. I don't pay them more than the standard ST rate, but I do know how to leverage my advantage by being friendly, not being cheap on lady drinks, never negotiating, relying instead on the interview and the in-bar rapport we establish, and knowing when to place strategic tips on the wait staff, mamasan, ect. Once in a while I will be with a girl who gave good service, but who wants to go back to her Go Go right away after intercourse, change clothes and get back on stage. I let them do their thing and I always smile and act friendly towards them when I see these girls on a subsequent nights in their bar, but I never repeat with those girls. At first they don't get it, but they figure it out as they see other girls receiving my repeat business.

We have the power. It is question of knowing how to exercise it in a friendly, non-combative way.

P.S. I pack a standard 6 inch American revolver. It's size may not impress compared to those on internet porn sites, but it has never let me down or failed to shoot straight. Maybe that is one of the reasons Asian working girls like me although it usually takes me longer than 30 minutes to unload. Ha Ha.

The Red Baron
07-29-18, 15:54
Was on Soi 4 Nana looking for some black pussy. But it all seems to have disappeared. Anyone know where they went?

XXL
07-30-18, 01:13
Was on Soi 4 Nana looking for some black pussy. But it all seems to have disappeared. Anyone know where they went?Thailand has stopped issuing and renewing visas for those girls. One girl kept me posted on Whatsapp as she tried to get a new visa from 3 different sources and was turned down each time. Those girls are now "rescued" (a code word in the media meaning "prevented from selling sex"). The trigger was a stink raised about girls from Uganda. Some girls have stayed and gone underground.

https://observer.ug/news/headlines/57703-ugandan-girls-rescued-in-thailand.html

Wimble
07-30-18, 05:17
Here I always thought I was getting a hand job preview. Guess that is why many stop at my penis ankle strap.


They aren't just reaching down your pants for that lady drink you bought them, they are also checking out the size of your package to gauge their answer to the barfine question.

Franciscass
07-30-18, 06:44
It is question of knowing how to exercise it in a friendly, non-combative way.
Nat is a good chronicler of go go scene. These are all the same Thai girls. Where they work comes mostly from who they knew before they came to the big city their looks and how smart and ambitious they are. How they behave is a reflection of who they are, their personality, their immediate financial circumstances, the customers behavior rather than where they work. It takes two to tango and not having preconceived expectations but following Nat's example on how to treat a go go lady is in my opinion the way to go to having a good time most of the time.

BionicMan
07-30-18, 06:54
Was on Soi 4 Nana looking for some black pussy. But it all seems to have disappeared. Anyone know where they went?You might find some in Pattaya soi Diana junction soi buakhow. Some in walking street and beach road (but I have no evidence).

Banana Boi
07-30-18, 07:00
125 kilo's here BB, we've met before so you can somewhat vouch for my weight. I was around 130 kilo's when we met but I've slimmed down some. Think you can second that I'm not a 'jolly' round fat guy. You are definitely not a fat dude rather a big NFL football player looking guy. Girls have to know before they go with you that you are a monster of a man and it won't be easy cash even before they realize if you have a 7 or 11 inch dick. I know many hot girls who wouldn't even talk to you in fear of getting crushed.


One of the reasons I don't pull WG's from gogo clubs is they have a different attitude. They are on the quantity program. Get as many as you can every night. Which bars are you experiencing this at? Definitely not my experience with gogo girls. Maybe it's different in Bangkok but I know very very few gogo girls in Pattaya who would go with more than one guy per night. Once their barfine is paid and they are finished they would rather go hang out with their friends at a Thai BBQ or Thai disco than go back to work for the night.



Reading up, it seem that 2500 for a ST is the norm, as I do not want to upset the market, as they say.

Prices at Thermae are starting to creep up to the 3000 range for some girls. The older more desperate ones will still go for 2000 or less.

BionicMan
07-30-18, 07:10
Hi,

I have read the forum and I am planning to visit Thermae. Does anyone have another other suggestions of places to go pickup freelances or just look around? I know of the normal places like NANA plaza, etc, but I am also interested in going out, say to a club or disco, etc.

Reading up, it seem that 2500 for a ST is the norm, as I do not want to upset the market, as they say.

For me, this will be my only trip on BKK for a while, so I want to make it worth my while (aka, find the nicer ladies), so any suggestion on bars in nana plaza would also be great. ? I read through most of the post, so I do have a rough idea on where to visit.

Thanks.I ain't a cheap Charlie but seems to me 2500ST is not really the norm.

Maybe 1500 is.

Each one his own, of course.

Yogesh021
07-30-18, 08:19
Hi friends,

I m travelling to Bangkok for a weekend. Aug 10th to Aug12th. Will be landing in the mrg. Its my first time travel to Bangkok. Kindly suggest me GF friendly hotel. VFM hotel indeed.

Help on places.

1) Massage parlour / BJ bars / Nurumassage.

2) Freelancer or pick up joint (Gogo bars).

Please guide me thruPM.

TIA.

Rob Jones
07-30-18, 09:36
I ain't a cheap Charlie but seems to me 2500ST is not really the norm.

Maybe 1500 is.

Each one his own, of course.I wouldn't pay anymore than 1500ST in Thailand. In Pattaya I will pay 2000 for a LT with FL girls from TF and in my limited Bkk experience 1000 to 1500ST with the same.

Goatscrot
07-30-18, 10:45
I wouldn't pay anymore than 1500ST in Thailand. In Pattaya I will pay 2000 for a LT with FL girls from TF and in my limited Bkk experience 1000 to 1500ST with the same.Here here. Wish more punters had this attitude. Then the gals would have better attitudes.

Smoothy
07-30-18, 13:28
I ain't a cheap Charlie but seems to me 2500ST is not really the norm.

Maybe 1500 is.

Each one his own, of course.The norm where? If you pull a girl from a gogo, the norm is absolutely NOT 1500. It was 15 years ago though. Unfortunately, I do think the norm these days for a gogo girl short time is 2500, you can get 2000, but getting a gogo chick for 1500 is going to be a rare occasion. Hell, some even ask for 3000 now at some places (which I would not pay).

That being said, yes, you can get the street walkers and non gogo bar girls for 1500.

EihTooms
07-30-18, 14:14
The norm where? If you pull a girl from a gogo, the norm is absolutely NOT 1500. It was 15 years ago though. Unfortunately, I do think the norm these days for a gogo girl short time is 2500, you can get 2000, but getting a gogo chick for 1500 is going to be a rare occasion. Hell, some even ask for 3000 now at some places (which I would not pay).

That being said, yes, you can get the street walkers and non gogo bar girls for 1500.Agree. And you're not likely to get a Bangkok freelancer in, say, Thermae for 1500 baht ST unless she lands in the lower-in-demand 25% or so of the typically available girls in terms of looks and age.

2000 for LT? Even that would be difficult to pull off with a decent looking young Bangkok FL within shouting distance of Thermae standards or the discos unless it is one of those make-believe LTs that starts after 3am, ends at sunrise and the girl is stinking drunk anyway.

However, that or very close to it is possible with the less "pro" FLs you meet and put in a few minutes making a more personal impression on through the dating sites by way of Line and such. The real GFE quality of a LT with one of those girls is also likely to be notably better going that route than you could get by racking up 100,000 baht bar tabs and paying a hardened disco hustler 6,000+ too.

BionicMan
07-30-18, 16:05
The norm where? If you pull a girl from a gogo, the norm is absolutely NOT 1500. It was 15 years ago though. Unfortunately, I do think the norm these days for a gogo girl short time is 2500, you can get 2000, but getting a gogo chick for 1500 is going to be a rare occasion. Hell, some even ask for 3000 now at some places (which I would not pay).

That being said, yes, you can get the street walkers and non gogo bar girls for 1500.You better make up your mind on what the guy is looking for.

If the OP mentions freelancers and then he "doesn't want to upset the market being 2500 the norm" I comment that 2500 is not the norm.

Anyhow it is his money and my advice. If you guys are sure of the norm, stick to your rules but don't seek advice then, as he asked for the correct price.

Seen the number of Japanese and Korean setting their own norms. I can see where the norm is going to.

A 500 baht will not be a killer, just makes the girls happier and consistent in their demand, feeling they can be the ones setting the norm. We see this in somembars where a laminated price list make it look official like released by the BKK chamber of commerce.

MusicalToM
07-30-18, 18:03
Complete bullshit. Has nothing to do with how you treat them, what hotel your staying at, gifts you buy them, expensive dinner they consume. Its the size of your dick and the pounding they don't want to deal with. You could treat them to a fantastic meal, take them back to your five star hotel but when that eleven inch dick comes out they are ready to head out the door. So if you aren't Asian and have anything resembling a normal American sized dick be prepared for a short LT session. The fake coughing fits, needing to go to the hospital..after the first cough i'm already reaching for my wallet. Don't argue with it, just pull out the ST amount and pay the girl. Most of the girls just can't take the harder pounding by the bigger dick. They aren't just reaching down your pants for that lady drink you bought them, they are also checking out the size of your package to gauge their answer to the barfine question. Short guy with a small dick will always get the quick yes to a barfine and the LT until the sun rises. The fact is that smaller dicks mean less work for the lady. Girl rides a small dick non stop while looking up at the ceiling, she's not in ecstasy but taking a snooze. My ladies aren't asking me for threesomes because they like seeing naked women, they need help riding little breadman. There are the exceptions though, girls that have grown to love the oversized manhood because it hits the spots the short Asian dicks can't reach. Once I was doing my favorite girl, she was bouncing up and down and I swear for a minute I saw an adams apple. Down she comes, there it is, up she goes, there it vanishes. Thought maybe she was a post opp ladyboy then I realized it was the head of my dick. My rule is simple, break up with any girl who wants a twelve inch dick because I refuse to fold mine for no one.Makes complete sense!

My dick is neither 11-inch nor I'm American but that night I pounded her real hard. She was new and my pounding in Jockey position was top-class that night, must have been hard for her I guess.

I believe that was the reason our LT converted to ST but pounding hard is something I can't help although some other ladies also told me the same. Personally, once on the floor I try to chose a girl with minimal eye contact with a bit of shyness assuming she is new, however it comes with the trade-off you can't pound them hard.

How do you guys control yourself when on top of the lady in your top gear, for me it is my adrenaline rush which controls that moment. Any tricks?

WindAngel
07-30-18, 20:12
The norm where? This is the right question to ask. Discussing price without context is not useful.

Robert Long
07-31-18, 07:32
Amazing. Do they also say "Welcome, handsome man!" as you walk by the bars? If so, it must be because you are handsome.

I have about a four incher and the girls tell me mine is also the perfect size for good sex. So I'm guessing you have a four incher too? Cool. Hell, some of the girls even tell me I have the biggest one they have ever had. I find that kind of hard to believe, but who am I to argue with them.They all say "Oh you are a strong man". And so handsome and good body. Do you have condom?

RL.

Nyezhov
07-31-18, 15:03
Makes complete sense!

My dick is neither 11-inch nor I'm American but that night I pounded her real hard. She was new and my pounding in Jockey position was top-class that night, must have been hard for her I guess.

I believe that was the reason our LT converted to ST but pounding hard is something I can't help although some other ladies also told me the same. Personally, once on the floor I try to chose a girl with minimal eye contact with a bit of shyness assuming she is new, however it comes with the trade-off you can't pound them hard.

How do you guys control yourself when on top of the lady in your top gear, for me it is my adrenaline rush which controls that moment. Any tricks?Control? Easy. Be over 60, fat and a smoker. I'm good for 3 minutes with her on top.

BionicMan
07-31-18, 15:45
This is the right question to ask. Discussing price without context is not useful.Seems this is the Bangkok thread. Are you reading somewhere else?

InterFan123
08-01-18, 22:25
Hey guys,

Honest question from a newcomer.

Been to Nana a few times past couple of days, signed onto WeChat and got talking to a certain girl that works in both Spankys and Straps.

Now I have my suspicion that said girl is a LB, but she has (rather angrily) denied it all the time, yet everywhere I look, I see that Straps is indeed a LB bar.

Can anyone confirm this? Or could this potentially be a girl (not a post-op LB).

Bubba Boy
08-02-18, 08:10
Hey guys,

Honest question from a newcomer.

Been to Nana a few times past couple of days, signed onto WeChat and got talking to a certain girl that works in both Spankys and Straps.

Now I have my suspicion that said girl is a LB, but she has (rather angrily) denied it all the time, yet everywhere I look, I see that Straps is indeed a LB bar.

Can anyone confirm this? Or could this potentially be a girl (not a post-op LB).I had a LB throw a quite obviously man sized stiletto at me around Soi 9 when I told her / him that I don't do LB's. They can get quite upset at this for whatever reason.

If you have any doubt that this is a LB then it probably is a LB.

Christian G
08-02-18, 09:47
Been to Nana a few times past couple of days, signed onto WeChat and got talking to a certain girl that works in both Spankys and Straps.
Now I have my suspicion that said girl is a LB, but she has (rather angrily) denied it all the time, yet everywhere I look, I see that Straps is indeed a LB bar.
Can anyone confirm this? Or could this potentially be a girl (not a post-op LB).For what I know Straps it's known because all the "girls" are a post-op LB.

Breadman
08-02-18, 18:35
Hey guys,

Honest question from a newcomer.

Been to Nana a few times past couple of days, signed onto WeChat and got talking to a certain girl that works in both Spankys and Straps.

Now I have my suspicion that said girl is a LB, but she has (rather angrily) denied it all the time, yet everywhere I look, I see that Straps is indeed a LB bar.

Can anyone confirm this? Or could this potentially be a girl (not a post-op LB).Only way to know for sure is to ask her for her ID.

JoseNosay
08-02-18, 22:53
Now I have my suspicion that said girl is a LB, but she has (rather angrily) denied it all the time, yet everywhere I look, I see that Straps is indeed a LB bar.

Can anyone confirm this? Or could this potentially be a girl (not a post-op LB).Its understandable why she will be angry, she puts in the work to be a female & you refuse to accept her as a passable female. Just so she can see you go pick up another passable "girl".

The Red-light districts are predominantly staffed by TS with passibility degrees varying from (Intentionally Masculine) to (Effortlessly Feminine).

Member #4698
08-02-18, 23:29
The Red-light districts are predominantly staffed by TS with passibility degrees varying from (Intentionally Masculine) to (Effortlessly Feminine)."Predominantly staffed"? No, I don't think so. Not even close. The vast majority of Go Go's are staffed with girls. There is only 1 LB Go Go on Cowboy that I am aware of and maybe 5 or 6 in Nana, but of that total half are bereft of customers most of the time and I have no idea how they manage to stay in business.

Straps is a very small post-op LB bar. I have been told that in the past they had a couple of real girls working there, but who knows? 555. A post op will almost always say "she" is a girl girl. Pre op's are much more inclined to admit they are LB's. Is it truthful or honorable for a postie to claim she is a real girl? Of course not, due to the basic deception at the core of it, but they HAVE gone thru with the chop, so I am not going to get into a philosophical discussion with one over it. They still don't look kosher to me and I can spot them in situ, not in photographs on the internet, 100% of the time, so they can say they are anything they want, claim anything they want; it don't affect me in the slightest.

JoseNosay
08-03-18, 02:04
"Predominantly staffed"? No, I don't think so. Not even close..The clear majority of the Farang market is Pre-OP TS.

TS levels vary, from passable (better looking than average hags).

Then.

TS who pass themselves as Hags (chubby with stretch marks, scar & baby story).

Then.

TS other looks (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly).

Member #4698
08-03-18, 02:55
JN, You must exist in a parallel LB universe or you are just seeking attention because I don't know what the hell you are talking about. But good luck in all your endeavors & congrats; you made onto my ignore list in record time with just 2 posts. LOL.

JoseNosay
08-03-18, 03:49
you made onto my ignore list in record timeIts a stigmatic (no-no) issue, like discussing Virgin Birth with a religious person, irrationality kicks in record time.

If you like having sex with a person, you should not be angry if she is TS or not. Most will not come and tell you, because of the big stigma. Once its not longer stigmatic, there will be no reason to hide it.

XXL
08-03-18, 04:07
Its a stigmatic (no-no) issue, like discussing Virgin Birth with a religious person, irrationality kicks in record time.

If you like having sex with a person, you should not be angry if she is TS or not. Most will not come and tell you, because of the big stigma. Once its not longer stigmatic, there will be no reason to hide it.Wow, who's that good-looking girl you've got there on tat pic? Wish I could land some like that in Pattaya.

My African regular here asked my why I didn't do LBs. "Coz they have a cock" I said. "You don't see the cock", she retorted. "You fuck them in the ass". This candid answer got me thinking. The best predictor of any monger being into LBs is perhaps less his having a bisexual side than his being an anal sex lover.

There's no need to be too worked up about LBs in Thailand. For all I know they may be have a positive effect on the market in the sense that they divert some men from girls, just like the black girls some members here would rather see deported. What we perceive as "LBs taking over" is most probably just Thai girls deserting prostitution, nothing more. LBs are like sea cucumbers on dead coral.

Shouldn't this forum lift the ban on this topic so that it only crops up in dedicated threads? Discussion of TS, LBs ect may be protective against SJWs attempts to shut down this forum. Suppressing advice on how to fuck girls for money is well-accepted these days while suppressing discussion of LBGB stuff is a violation of human rights.

Banana Boi
08-03-18, 04:11
Straps is a very small post-op LB bar. I have been told that in the past they had a couple of real girls working there, but who knows? 555. A post op will almost always say "she" is a girl girl. Pre op's are much more inclined to admit they are LB's.Sounds like Lollipop. There are obvious ladyboys working there alongside the occasional cute girls. When my newbie buddy asked the wait staff and the girl he was sitting with why there were so many ladyboys there they responded there are no ladyboys. I just rolled my eyes. I think I'm experienced enough to know a ladyboy from a girl.

JoseNosay
08-03-18, 04:32
Wow, who's that good-looking girl you've got there on tat pic? Wish I could land some like that in Pattaya..

That photo is of a famous passable TS Model

The impassable TS are the ones who decided to go ahead with hormone therapy much later.

Pimpampoumpipo
08-03-18, 21:37
I was yesterday Sukhumvit soi 22 after Asok BTS looking for a massage parlor with Japanese specialties with prostate massage that I had seen during my last visit. Chance for once I find quickly enough what I was looking for usually I never find it drives me crazy. I go back, consult the menu ok I take the total to 2800 be it's called mantra or something like that. I ask to see the girls I will choose on piece. 4 girls uneven beauties arrive and worry about who I'm going to choose I hope it's because they hope I'll choose them. I take the 3rd look a little vulgar, not too sure blow it's so much better I do not really like the bitches too sure of them, it's too overrated. Ok we wait 10 minutes that the royal suite is released (in fact a mattress on the floor and the shower inside.

The menu gives the program, it is accurate in there is a prostate massage that's why I came I'm curious Japanese specialties. We go in the shower, she soap me in the back and speaks all the time sign that she is not too comfortable it's only been 1 month that she is there so much better I also like discoveries. Go on we start with an oil massage on the back. After a few minutes it's panic she checks the meter that she started does not work it puts it in all its states I took 1:30 she does not know when to finish she speaks alone gets angry. Ok no bad sweetheart we must finish around 17:00 I put myself on the back and ask him prostate specialty that's why I'm here. Oh yes but she has never done it is shy good too bad do what you can. She brushes me with oil flips the bottle on me and puts a finger deep while she pumped my god that it's good I have to make an effort to hold me. Ah that's it she found her meter I go back in front I go with my VLT anyway I must abbreviate.

It is the light spirit that I return to the hotel take a drink with my VLT to recover before sending it to me too.

Zauberfee
08-04-18, 10:51
Last month I spent 3 days in Pattaya, here are the girls I met:

https://www.thaifriendly.com/Kannika21189*. *https://www.thaifriendly.com/Porntipa191.

Tuk was mentioned a couple of times already. She is a nice girl with a small body, average face,*late 30's, always smiling and quite cheerful, but a business like attitude nonetheless. Easy negotiations at weechat and after 20 minutes she was in my room. Sex was good, but not mindblowing. Some weak kisses, decent BJ, can fuck several position, both pussy and ass, cumshot in mouth. So far, so good. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her: 100%, pretty good service provider.

Will I repeat: 50%, probably not, Tuk was good, but not good enough for an encore.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Kanthiya

Very fast negotiations, 20 minutes later in room. Pretty mature girl, my best guess is rather late 40's (or even more) than 43. But she looks decent for her age, still good body, nice tits. She gave an outstanding BJ and was a pretty good fuck, no matter pussy or ass. Great kisser. Pornstyle cumshot on the face. I paid 1. 500 THB, but I'm sure 1. 200 THB or even 1. 000 will get her services too.

Do I recommend her?*100%, very*good fuck if you don't mind her age.

Will I repeat?*40%, probably not, although she was very good, I will rather look for a younger girl with similar service.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Oo323232

Oh, 26 years old, single mom from Buriram, very tiny frame, small tits, small ass, little english skills, conversation was exclusivly in thai / isaan. Oh is a great girl, smiling, talkative, funny, likes to laugh and giggle a lot. First girl to appear in my room without a bag (just her mobile). Sex was great, great kisses, good BJ, energetic fuck. Still she*wasn't too comfortable while getting fucked in the ass, but took it like a pro. I finished in her mouth after literally lots of ups and down: the. 1. 300 THB were accepted by her, but she got 200 THB tip on top.

Do I recommend her?*100%, she might not everyones type, but she is a very good fuck, as long as you don't need to talk in english.

Will I repeat? 120%, if in Thailand I would marry her. 'nough said.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Ae234555

Ae claims to be a girl, but many guys here guessed she might be post-op LB. I fucked her, but still can't resolve this riddle. When she entered my room, my guess was that she's rather a girl. After she left I was not so sure anymore. In between she put on a decent performance. Some kisses, decent BJ, can take a good pounding with both pussy and ass although she has a very tiny frame. Left quickly after the deed was done. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her?*60%, good fuck, odd girl.

Will I repeat? 0%, good, but not good enough and too odd.

JoseNosay
08-04-18, 11:58
https://www.thaifriendly.com/Oo323232

Oh, 26 years old, single mom from Buriram, very tiny frame, small tits, small ass, little english skills, conversation was exclusivly in thai / isaan. Oh is a great girl, smiling, talkative, funny, likes to laugh and giggle a lot. First girl to appear in my room without a bag (just her mobile). Sex was great, great kisses, good BJ, energetic fuck. Still she*wasn't too comfortable while getting fucked in the ass, but took it like a pro. I finished in her mouth after literally lots of ups and down: the. 1. 300 THB were accepted by her, but she got 200 THB tip on top.

Do I recommend her?*100%, she might not everyones type, but she is a very good fuck, as long as you don't need to talk in english.

Will I repeat? 120%, if in Thailand I would marry her. 'nough said.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Ae234555

Ae claims to be a girl, but many guys here guessed she might be post-op LB. I fucked her, but still can't resolve this riddle. When she entered my room, my guess was that she's rather a girl. After she left I was not so sure anymore. In between she put on a decent performance. Some kisses, decent BJ, can take a good pounding with both pussy and ass although she has a very tiny frame. Left quickly after the deed was done. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her?*60%, good fuck, odd girl.

Will I repeat? 0%, good, but not good enough and too odd.Great Report.

Sinofaguo
08-04-18, 15:28
I was yesterday Sukhumvit soi 22 after Asok BTS looking for a massage parlor with Japanese specialties with prostate massage that I had seen during my last visit. Chance for once I find quickly enough what I was looking for usually I never find it drives me crazy. I go back, consult the menu ok I take the total to 2800 be it's called mantra or something like that. I ask to see the girls I will choose on piece. 4 girls uneven beauties arrive and worry about who I'm going to choose I hope it's because they hope I'll choose them. I take the 3rd look a little vulgar, not too sure blow it's so much better I do not really like the bitches too sure of them, it's too overrated. Ok we wait 10 minutes that the royal suite is released (in fact a mattress on the floor and the shower inside.Wrong subforum, you should have posted in "Bangkok Massage Parlors. Except TULIP and ANNIES!

No name of the MP you went to.

No name of the provider who served you.

Having those three done the right way, your report would have been a valuable addition to the community.

Interracial
08-05-18, 20:03
Forgive me, it's been a while since I've posted. Would anyone have any suggestions where I can locate either dark skinned African or Indian women in Bangkok? Suggested prices for short-time would also be appreciated.

Member #4591
08-06-18, 13:50
Forgive me, it's been a while since I've posted. Would anyone have any suggestions where I can locate either dark skinned African or Indian women in Bangkok? Suggested prices for short-time would also be appreciated.I'll take the bait for obvious reasons LOL. Please go to lower Sukhumvit. Start your walk at the intersection of Asok and walk down. They will start to appear near the McDonalds. Keep walking and you will see more sitting at the numerous cart bars that are agian popping up. Once you get to Thermae, they can be seen on the left and right side hanging with the bros who are selling. Next, either turn right and take a walk down soi 11 or continue straight and you will see a steady amount hanging around. Once you get to the 2nd McDonalds just after soi 7, there will also be a heavy concentration out front. After that, take a left turn onto soi 3 or a right turn into soi 4 and walk down about 200 meteres or so. Soi 3 by the grace hotel. If you don't get lucky, there is also quite a few on Tinder, Badoo, and the beauty section of CL under services. Please do your best with the help of the Big Joke to find as many as you can. I hope I was of some help.

Smoothy
08-06-18, 22:36
Would anyone have any suggestions where I can locate either Albino African, Albino Aboriginese, or Albino Indian women in Bangkok? If they are bald on their head as well and / or if they are also midgets, all the better. Suggested prices for short-time would also be appreciated.

Rob Jones
08-07-18, 01:34
Forgive me, it's been a while since I've posted. Would anyone have any suggestions where I can locate either dark skinned African or Indian women in Bangkok? Suggested prices for short-time would also be appreciated.Post number 1! So how can it be a while since you have posted? I suggest you read the last 10 pages of Bangkok and Foreign Sex Workers to find your answers! When are you going to Bangkok? Everything you need to know is here, you have to get off your lazy butt and find it.

Eszpresszo
08-07-18, 02:35
Would anyone have any suggestions where I can locate either Albino African, Albino Aboriginese, or Albino Indian women in Bangkok? If they are bald on their head as well and / or if they are also midgets, all the better. Suggested prices for short-time would also be appreciated.That's a pretty good one. I'm still trying to figure out why someone would want to find Indian women in Thailand. Were the Thai girls just too unbearably pretty? Some new member just made a similar post over on one of the Brazil threads, someone planning to go to Brazil but needs to find Indian and Arab women. I guess Brazilian girls are too hot for some people planning a trip to Brazil, and they require women from the opposite side of the globe.

EihTooms
08-07-18, 07:41
Would anyone have any suggestions where I can locate either Albino African, Albino Aboriginese, or Albino Indian women in Bangkok? If they are bald on their head as well and / or if they are also midgets, all the better. Suggested prices for short-time would also be appreciated.I usually see a few sitting in the McDonald's on the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 5. As far as suggested prices for short-time goes, I usually demand no less than 2000 baht to be alone in a room with one for 20 minutes or so.

Member #4643
08-07-18, 14:21
Last month I spent 3 days in Pattaya, here are the girls I met:

https://www.thaifriendly.com/Kannika21189*. *https://www.thaifriendly.com/Porntipa191.

Tuk was mentioned a couple of times already. She is a nice girl with a small body, average face,*late 30's, always smiling and quite cheerful, but a business like attitude nonetheless. Easy negotiations at weechat and after 20 minutes she was in my room. Sex was good, but not mindblowing. Some weak kisses, decent BJ, can fuck several position, both pussy and ass, cumshot in mouth. So far, so good. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her: 100%, pretty good service provider.

Will I repeat: 50%, probably not, Tuk was good, but not good enough for an encore.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Kanthiya

Very fast negotiations, 20 minutes later in room. Pretty mature girl, my best guess is rather late 40's (or even more) than 43. But she looks decent for her age, still good body, nice tits. She gave an outstanding BJ and was a pretty good fuck, no matter pussy or ass. Great kisser. Pornstyle cumshot on the face. I paid 1. 500 THB, but I'm sure 1. 200 THB or even 1. 000 will get her services too.

Do I recommend her?*100%, very*good fuck if you don't mind her age.

Will I repeat?*40%, probably not, although she was very good, I will rather look for a younger girl with similar service.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Oo323232

Oh, 26 years old, single mom from Buriram, very tiny frame, small tits, small ass, little english skills, conversation was exclusivly in thai / isaan. Oh is a great girl, smiling, talkative, funny, likes to laugh and giggle a lot. First girl to appear in my room without a bag (just her mobile). Sex was great, great kisses, good BJ, energetic fuck. Still she*wasn't too comfortable while getting fucked in the ass, but took it like a pro. I finished in her mouth after literally lots of ups and down: the. 1. 300 THB were accepted by her, but she got 200 THB tip on top.

Do I recommend her?*100%, she might not everyones type, but she is a very good fuck, as long as you don't need to talk in english.

Will I repeat? 120%, if in Thailand I would marry her. 'nough said.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Ae234555

Ae claims to be a girl, but many guys here guessed she might be post-op LB. I fucked her, but still can't resolve this riddle. When she entered my room, my guess was that she's rather a girl. After she left I was not so sure anymore. In between she put on a decent performance. Some kisses, decent BJ, can take a good pounding with both pussy and ass although she has a very tiny frame. Left quickly after the deed was done. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her?*60%, good fuck, odd girl.

Will I repeat? 0%, good, but not good enough and too odd.I see that Zauberfee does a lot of his fishing on Thaifriendly. As this is a dating site, I assumed that only a small number of the girls are pros or semi-pros. Am I wrong?

Are the girls in Pattaya there much more likely to be working girls than the ones in BKK?

Zauberfee
08-07-18, 15:23
I see that Zauberfee does a lot of his fishing on Thaifriendly. As this is a dating site, I assumed that only a small number of the girls are pros or semi-pros. Am I wrong?

Are the girls in Pattaya there much more likely to be working girls than the ones in BKK?Thaifriendly in general is a normal dating site. For most towns most girls are looking for friends or relationship. But Pattaya is different at least 80% of the girls are working girls.

Turgid
08-07-18, 19:51
That's a pretty good one. I'm still trying to figure out why someone would want to find Indian women in Thailand. Were the Thai girls just too unbearably pretty? Some new member just made a similar post over on one of the Brazil threads, someone planning to go to Brazil but needs to find Indian and Arab women. I guess Brazilian girls are too hot for some people planning a trip to Brazil, and they require women from the opposite side of the globe.I don't think his request is so unusual. It probably is for someone who likes to bang only one ethnicity. In addition to quantity I like variety and have no problem banging Thais, Chinese, African, Latin American, Filipinas and Indians. I certainly will not go to India to monger (I have gone there for work and did partake but it was miserable). If I do encounter any worthwhile Indian providers in the favorable destination of Thailand I certainly would partake.

Rob Jones
08-07-18, 21:41
I see that Zauberfee does a lot of his fishing on Thaifriendly. As this is a dating site, I assumed that only a small number of the girls are pros or semi-pros. Am I wrong?

Are the girls in Pattaya there much more likely to be working girls than the ones in BKK?If you are looking for non working girls try Badoo. You can find some girls looking for relationships, looking for holiday flings and also working girls. I have met some nice girls on there who will sleep with you for free, meaning dinner and night out. The problem is with a working girl you pay her to leave but some of these girls are hard to shake for the rest of the holiday.

Rob.

Member #4643
08-08-18, 02:00
If you are looking for non working girls try Badoo. You can find some girls looking for relationships, looking for holiday flings and also working girls. I have met some nice girls on there who will sleep with you for free, meaning dinner and night out. The problem is with a working girl you pay her to leave but some of these girls are hard to shake for the rest of the holiday.

Rob.I am always looking for semi pros, not non pros. I agree that we pay them to leave.

In the past, I used DateInAsia to find semi pro guides (defined as women who wanted money for sex but did not work in the sex industry full time because they do not consider themselves to be prostitutes) and I have had two successes in 6 years. Both ladies were my nightly guest and guide for a week of hard-core fun. Both were extremely GFE. But, this is not a great track record.

I would love to hear other members suggestion for how to find a short term extremely GFE woman in BKK.

EihTooms
08-08-18, 02:26
I see that Zauberfee does a lot of his fishing on Thaifriendly. As this is a dating site, I assumed that only a small number of the girls are pros or semi-pros. Am I wrong?

Are the girls in Pattaya there much more likely to be working girls than the ones in BKK?You can find many working girls or girls who are very much down for exchanging sex for money much more than looking for a serious relationship on ThaiFriendly, Bangkok. I do. In order to filter for them, I would keep your search to "Bangkok, Sukhumvit" or "Bangkok, All Areas, Within 15 Km", between "18-30 years old." Don't forget to click the Search button again after any changes you make on that search filter.

Now, here is where the filtering might get tricky for younger guys because I don't know how this can be done when you do not list YOUR age as, say, 55 years old and above. But if your profile cites your age as being an older dude, as mine does, and you choose the girl search option, "Respect their age range", guess what, tons of young girls will pop up for you who state the age range of men they are looking for as "18-60", "18-90", "18-Any", "Any-Any" and so on.

Then it is not hard to figure out that the hotter and younger girls with sexy pics who are open to meeting 80 year old dudes are working girls or cash-strapped P4P-curious girls looking for a sponsor for the night to help them pay tuition at the nunnery. Otherwise, what is a 19-20 year old hottie hanging around ground zero for tourist P4P action in Bangkok doing trolling for 65 year old vacationers on the internet, right?

For best chance of getting a real GFE with the ones who click interested in you or you contact first, move to Line communication asap, before "negotiations" if possible. Very early into the Line chat suggest to do a quick video chat "for 1 minute just to say Hi" (so she will know it isn't about sex video chatting, a freebie as far as she is concerned).

If she agrees, then she will have SEEN you, seen your smile, been charmed by you (right?) and you will no longer be an unknown, scary, disembodied text online to whom it is much easier for her to say no to this or that. Once you have become a real person on video and she is comfortable that you are not a hideous monster (unless you ARE a hideous monster, that is), then she will be much more inclined to say Yes to whatever real GFE bits you want to make sure will happen when she comes to your room. Of course, you will also be able to see how far off from her pics she is and even if she is indeed a she and not a he.

ValentinoV
08-08-18, 03:08
Hi guys,

Are there still African freelancers around? I saw report of Thai police rounding up those Africans. Wondering are they still loitering around Sukhumvit area? If yes then I shall book a trip down.

Thanks.

Soroche
08-08-18, 08:18
Check with your favorite shop before venturing out tonight due to some "inspection activity".

ValentinoV
08-08-18, 09:28
Are there still African freelancer around? Last I heard they were caught by the Thai police. Anyone can confirm?

Yogesh021
08-09-18, 03:32
Hi friends,

M in short vacation to Bkk. Staying at ibis suk 4. Would like to know about nearby BJ or massage parlour. M landing quite early in morning and check in is at 2. 00 pm. Can kill some time in BJ or massage.

I have done few rtff for pickup at bars. Just wanted to check on pricing for ST and LT.

TIA.

Sinofaguo
08-09-18, 17:50
Hi friends,

M in short vacation to Bkk. Staying at ibis suk 4. Would like to know about nearby BJ or massage parlour. M landing quite early in morning and check in is at 2. 00 pm. Can kill some time in BJ or massage.

I have done few rtff for pickup at bars. Just wanted to check on pricing for ST and LT.

TIA.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!

EihTooms
08-09-18, 19:47
Are there still African freelancer around? Last I heard they were caught by the Thai police. Anyone can confirm?Very few compared with 2-3 months ago. Most nights I could count all of them I see from Sukhumvit and Asok to all the way down Soi 4 past Hillary 1 on the fingers of one hand, including in front of Thermae. A few might be hiding deep inside a couple of side sois along the way.

Markly2
08-10-18, 21:21
https://www.thaifriendly.com/Oo323232

Oh, 26 years old, single mom from Buriram, very tiny frame, small tits, small ass, little english skills, conversation was exclusivly in thai / isaan. Oh is a great girl, smiling, talkative, funny, likes to laugh and giggle a lot. First girl to appear in my room without a bag (just her mobile). Sex was great, great kisses, good BJ, energetic fuck. Still she*wasn't too comfortable while getting fucked in the ass, but took it like a pro. I finished in her mouth after literally lots of ups and down: the. 1. 300 THB were accepted by her, but she got 200 THB tip on top.

Do I recommend her?*100%, she might not everyones type, but she is a very good fuck, as long as you don't need to talk in english.

Will I repeat? 120%, if in Thailand I would marry her. 'nough said.
Does she have much baby damage? Thanks.

Zauberfee
08-10-18, 21:26
Does she have much baby damage? Thanks.IIRC no significant damage.

Markly2
08-11-18, 22:25
IIRC no significant damage.Thanks for that.

Werqweq
08-11-18, 22:34
How come you couldn't find, use Google type Nalin spa, the first option. The website is in Thai and you need google translate if you can not read Thai and the staff there including Khun Nalin can't speak English so you need to speak basic Thai to communicate or there might be misunderstandings. Google maps will help you to locate the area, just need to do some research with patience.I think that depends a bit on your location and other things. Where I'm googling from, the "nalin spa" you talk about is neither on the first page nor the second, so give the guy a break.

Is this the place you are talking about? https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hld13rXsqWQJ:www.zodio.com/business/detail/105072079.

Should you have a better url, and even better, a phone number too, that would be appreciated. Your description of it sounds interesting, but it's quite far out in no-mans land, so I'd be hesitant to spend the time to go all the way out there only to find out they're closed or busy when I arrive.

Thanks.

Franciscass
08-12-18, 17:33
How anybody found this hole in the wall is a mystery to me. Getting there from Sukhumvit is a hazzle in itself. MRT blue line to last station Tao Poon (12 stops from Asoke), then upstairs to purple line for another 6 stops to Bang Krasor. Get off on the east side, train is heading north, it's then about 50 meters down the left side of soi 24 which is beside the station. The entrance and reception make it almost appear it's an abandoned shop but the actual massage room and shower area are decent enough.

Now as somebody noted nobody speaks English and the menu is almost entirely in Thai so it's difficult to know what's on offer. I paid 1000 which was the cheapest 60 minute package available.

It unfortunately turned out to be the lamest excuse for an oil massage I have had in this town bar none. My back and legs were massaged for about 40 minutes and when I turned over I was toweled up and given a head massage for another 20 minutes. Then it was over. Not one time was there a hint or a semblance of an erotic massage. The girl was pleasant and friendly but obviously inexperienced.

I didn't make a fuss, I was in a good mood that day, the markets were up but obviously something had gone terribly wrong and I had no idea what it was. I love a sensual massage, slow hands with an easy touch that's why I went there but sadly something got lost in translation.

I may have gone to the wrong place but the location checked out and there was a sign on the door saying Nalin massage. That said the pics on their website of the interiors didn't match.

If anybody is thinking of making the trek I suggest you make an effort to communicate on what you can expect however difficult that may be before committing.

Incidentally the cup of hot ginger tea on the way out was good if a tad expensive.

http://www.nalinspa.com/

Marlboro Red
08-15-18, 03:08
All,

I have been to both Nana plaza and soi cowboy, but can anyone suggest a fun great gogo bar / strip club in Bangkok? I have been to the all the bars in nana plaza and I notice that most people they sit down, look at the girls or chat with them.

What I am really looking for is a strip bar where the girls girls give lap dances, sitnob your lap, etc.

I know YMMV but I looking for somewhere there is a party feel rather than everyone sitting looking at the girls and doing nothing.

Robert Long
08-15-18, 06:39
All,

I have been to both Nana plaza and soi cowboy, but can anyone suggest a fun great gogo bar / strip club in Bangkok? I have been to the all the bars in nana plaza and I notice that most people they sit down, look at the girls or chat with them.

What I am really looking for is a strip bar where the girls girls give lap dances, sitnob your lap, etc.

I know YMMV but I looking for somewhere there is a party feel rather than everyone sitting looking at the girls and doing nothing.Pat pong on Silom Road.

RL.

Banana Boi
08-15-18, 13:01
All,

I have been to both Nana plaza and soi cowboy, but can anyone suggest a fun great gogo bar / strip club in Bangkok? I have been to the all the bars in nana plaza and I notice that most people they sit down, look at the girls or chat with them.

What I am really looking for is a strip bar where the girls girls give lap dances, sitnob your lap, etc.

I know YMMV but I looking for somewhere there is a party feel rather than everyone sitting looking at the girls and doing nothing.Nana and Cowboy gogo bars are quite boring. As RL says, Patpong is more fun. For the most girls try King's Castle 1 and 2. Other fun bars but much fewer girls Black Pagoda is hit and miss, Badabing girls are at least friendly. And Pink Panther can be ok on certain nights. If you want any entertainment in a gogo bar, you need to come to Pattaya. However, most of the really high mileage gogo bars in Pattaya don't have many girls up to my standards.

EihTooms
08-15-18, 13:14
All,

I have been to both Nana plaza and soi cowboy, but can anyone suggest a fun great gogo bar / strip club in Bangkok? I have been to the all the bars in nana plaza and I notice that most people they sit down, look at the girls or chat with them.

What I am really looking for is a strip bar where the girls girls give lap dances, sitnob your lap, etc.

I know YMMV but I looking for somewhere there is a party feel rather than everyone sitting looking at the girls and doing nothing.From my observation and experience, the Nana Plaza go-go bars that currently come closest to what you described would be Enter and Butterflies, both on the top floor of the plaza. Quality of the line ups will vary from night to night, hour to hour.

You can also get plenty of lap dances and body-to-body interaction with girls on the second level of Crazy House, Soi 23 around the corner from Soi Cowboy. However, the quality of the girls up there is generally low, perhaps a deeply flawed but still acceptable diamond in the rough shows up every now and then. Beware, the Lady Drink Only hustle is quite heavy in this bar so you will need to time those lap dances properly in relation to the Lady Drinks you purchase.

MichaelSamuel
08-15-18, 21:19
I haven't had the opportunity to write up my reports from my trip last week, but Dollhouse in cowboy would be a good choice for what you are looking for, especially the 2nd floor. I spent the last night of my trip there and it was a great fun time. Honestly probably the most fun I have ever had in a gogo bar in 20 some odd trips. Girls were a blast, servers not pushy, happy hour prices good, and everyone was having a good time. My only regret is that I only took 1 of them back to room with me, I can still feel the other girls perfect 20 yo tits in my hands. Just in general the atmosphere was great.


All,

I have been to both Nana plaza and soi cowboy, but can anyone suggest a fun great gogo bar / strip club in Bangkok? I have been to the all the bars in nana plaza and I notice that most people they sit down, look at the girls or chat with them.

What I am really looking for is a strip bar where the girls girls give lap dances, sitnob your lap, etc.

I know YMMV but I looking for somewhere there is a party feel rather than everyone sitting looking at the girls and doing nothing.

MichaelSamuel
08-15-18, 21:28
Thanks for the great report. I still like the gogos, but seeing less and less value for my baht in those these days. My last trip I pulled 4 from thermae and not all were successes but least I wasn't in very much damage wise compared to a gogo. I have a few questions for you as I want to work your strategy on my next trip.

1.) did you do the video thing before hand to get a good look at the girl or rely on pics she sent?

2.) I love tapping that ass as well, was this something you negotiated ahead of time? And if so may I ask how did you approach it with them?

3.) can you expand on negotiation strategy a bit more?


Last month I spent 3 days in Pattaya, here are the girls I met:

https://www.thaifriendly.com/Kannika21189*. *https://www.thaifriendly.com/Porntipa191.

Tuk was mentioned a couple of times already. She is a nice girl with a small body, average face,*late 30's, always smiling and quite cheerful, but a business like attitude nonetheless. Easy negotiations at weechat and after 20 minutes she was in my room. Sex was good, but not mindblowing. Some weak kisses, decent BJ, can fuck several position, both pussy and ass, cumshot in mouth. So far, so good. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her: 100%, pretty good service provider.

Will I repeat: 50%, probably not, Tuk was good, but not good enough for an encore.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Kanthiya

Very fast negotiations, 20 minutes later in room. Pretty mature girl, my best guess is rather late 40's (or even more) than 43. But she looks decent for her age, still good body, nice tits. She gave an outstanding BJ and was a pretty good fuck, no matter pussy or ass. Great kisser. Pornstyle cumshot on the face. I paid 1. 500 THB, but I'm sure 1. 200 THB or even 1. 000 will get her services too.

Do I recommend her?*100%, very*good fuck if you don't mind her age.

Will I repeat?*40%, probably not, although she was very good, I will rather look for a younger girl with similar service.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Oo323232

Oh, 26 years old, single mom from Buriram, very tiny frame, small tits, small ass, little english skills, conversation was exclusivly in thai / isaan. Oh is a great girl, smiling, talkative, funny, likes to laugh and giggle a lot. First girl to appear in my room without a bag (just her mobile). Sex was great, great kisses, good BJ, energetic fuck. Still she*wasn't too comfortable while getting fucked in the ass, but took it like a pro. I finished in her mouth after literally lots of ups and down: the. 1. 300 THB were accepted by her, but she got 200 THB tip on top.

Do I recommend her?*100%, she might not everyones type, but she is a very good fuck, as long as you don't need to talk in english.

Will I repeat? 120%, if in Thailand I would marry her. 'nough said.


https://www.thaifriendly.com/Ae234555

Ae claims to be a girl, but many guys here guessed she might be post-op LB. I fucked her, but still can't resolve this riddle. When she entered my room, my guess was that she's rather a girl. After she left I was not so sure anymore. In between she put on a decent performance. Some kisses, decent BJ, can take a good pounding with both pussy and ass although she has a very tiny frame. Left quickly after the deed was done. 1. 500 THB.

Do I recommend her?*60%, good fuck, odd girl.

Will I repeat? 0%, good, but not good enough and too odd.

DragonZ04
08-18-18, 21:40
Hey guys,

I'm doing a trip to Bangkok for a bachelor party this coming February 2019 and need help, that's why I'm doing research now, I don't get the terminology Annies or tulips only? I'm visiting soi cowboy area but any other suggestions for a newbie, I'm usually in the Tijuana Mexico subsection and would like help from my mongering brothers with basic info like how much money should I bring for 2 weeks? I understand he baht conversion rate and they say you spend about 25 US dollars, but that's probably without mongering, What were the average prices? I see escort at 4000 baht which is around 120 you. S but wondering about other types like gogo / street / massage parlor pricing? And any suggestions to where we should go, probably a small group of 5 guys.

Any help, tips, suggestions would be appreciated.

Phazze93
08-19-18, 02:18
Hey why'all.

Looking to stop by Thailand again in a few months. Its been a year since the last trip.

Has the scene changed at all??

As of right now. Bangkok or Pattaya?

Probably going to stay for a week. Been to Bangkok 2 times, 0 Pattaya.

I'm 27, asian, relatively good looking & in good shape.

Looking mostly for stunners /9+.

My only concerns about trying Pattaya instead of Bangkok again are:

-quality of girls? I know the gogo scene is not comparable, but are there simply just MORE average girls in Pattaya / same amount of stunners?

-Bangkok soapy scene is much better than Pattaya?

Look forward to hearing from you all.

Cheers.

-P.

Smoothy
08-19-18, 07:57
Looking mostly for stunners /9+Then don't go to Thailand. I have only seen one 9+ in the 20 or so years I have been visiting Thailand. That was a Thai girlfriend of a Thai General's son in Bangkok. That General's son was mid 20's and quite good looking as far as Thai guys go, and of course rich. He was spending a fortune on her to maintain her, but she was definitely a stunner.

There are lots of 7's and even a few 8's, but I doubt you will be finding any 9+ girls.

Mogwai
08-19-18, 09:00
Any help, tips, suggestions would be appreciated.


Look forward to hearing from you all.


Go back 20 pages in this thread and the Pattaya thread and start reading. If not all of your questions are answered then go back 30 pages. Etcetera.

This may sound blunt, but a forum is meant to be read. It's not for asking general questions that have been asked (and answered!) dozens of times already.

MonkeyPaw
08-19-18, 09:25
Hey why'all.

Looking to stop by Thailand again in a few months. Its been a year since the last trip.

Has the scene changed at all??

As of right now. Bangkok or Pattaya?

Probably going to stay for a week. Been to Bangkok 2 times, 0 Pattaya.

I'm 27, asian, relatively good looking & in good shape.

Looking mostly for stunners /9+.

My only concerns about trying Pattaya instead of Bangkok again are:.We should have had this discussion last year when we hung out together about "what actually is a stunner 9+" Do you consider the girl I fucked at the Lord's Palace a 9 and above stunner? What about some of the girls I pointed to at Baccara? To me this girl in the photos is very stunning (slightly bigger tits and ass than I usually like). You are going to have to kind of list the qualities you see in a top tier girl in order for most guys to give input. Perhaps even show us an example. Also by now, I think you know whose opinion really counts and whose doesn't, when it comes hot girls and taste. Right?

P.S. Do you remember the story I told you about the scary hateful trolls that come out from under the bridge in search of young good looking Asian guys? Try not to let them eat you.

Zman429
08-19-18, 09:53
Hey why'all.

Looking to stop by Thailand again in a few months. Its been a year since the last trip.

Has the scene changed at all??

As of right now. Bangkok or Pattaya?

Probably going to stay for a week. Been to Bangkok 2 times, 0 Pattaya.

I'm 27, asian, relatively good looking & in good shape.

Looking mostly for stunners /9+.

My only concerns about trying Pattaya instead of Bangkok again are:.If you've seen Bangkok twice you should definitely try Pattaya. There are hot girls in Pattaya I personally think they're overrated but that's me. But Pattaya is someplace you have to experience not read about.

Banana Boi
08-19-18, 09:56
Then don't go to Thailand. I have only seen one 9+ in the 20 or so years I have been visiting Thailand.Is there truly any monger destination we can go where we can find 9+ working girls without breaking the bank (over 7 k baht)? FKK clubs 5+ years ago provided that but I don't know of any at present.

Zman429
08-19-18, 09:58
Hey guys,

I'm doing a trip to Bangkok for a bachelor party this coming February 2019 and need help, that's why I'm doing research now, I don't get the terminology Annies or tulips only? I'm visiting soi cowboy area but any other suggestions for a newbie, I'm usually in the Tijuana Mexico subsection and would like help from my mongering brothers with basic info like how much money should I bring for 2 weeks? I understand he baht conversion rate and they say you spend about 25 US dollars, but that's probably without mongering, What were the average prices? I see escort at 4000 baht which is around 120 you. S but wondering about other types like gogo / street / massage parlor pricing? And any suggestions to where we should go, probably a small group of 5 guys.

Any help, tips, suggestions would be appreciated.You get 33 baht per USD right now. Plan on 1000 baht low end 4000 baht high end plus meals and hotel expenses $50/ day bare bones $100 a day doable $200 a day is pretty rich but most of it depends on you. Tulips and Annie (closed now?) are soapies tulips is my favorite. I suggest mixing it up IE bar girl, massage, freelancer, gogo girl, girls on tinder / Thai friendly etc.

Franga
08-19-18, 10:17
Looking mostly for stunners /9+.

My only concerns about trying Pattaya instead of Bangkok again are:

-quality of girls? I know the gogo scene is not comparable, but are there simply just MORE average girls in Pattaya / same amount of stunners?
I have walked down Soi 6 in Pattaya regularly recently and I can tell you that there are several hundred young girls there, but no 9's. It is even hard to find an 8. Maybe five 8's in total.

Most are 7's and 6's. But granted 1000 baht is a good price for ST given that you have to compromise on quality.

Nyezhov
08-19-18, 12:27
I have walked down Soi 6 in Pattaya regularly recently and I can tell you that there are several hundred young girls there, but no 9's. It is even hard to find an 8. Maybe five 8's in total.

Most are 7's and 6's. But granted 1000 baht is a good price for ST given that you have to compromise on quality.They are all stunners in the dark.

Member #4698
08-19-18, 13:29
I have walked down Soi 6 in Pattaya regularly recently and I can tell you that there are several hundred young girls there, but no 9's. It is even hard to find an 8. Maybe five 8's in total.

Most are 7's and 6's. But granted 1000 baht is a good price for ST given that you have to compromise on quality.I too like to stroll down Soi 6 from time to time and mostly window shop before I head elsewhere. IMHO most Soi 6 girls are barely 5's with maybe a few 6's thrown in the mix along the way. I have never seen or shagged a 7 on Soi 6 much less an 8. Ha Ha. That's why I prefer the Go Go's. But you never know. Diamond in the rough and all that. Nice girls on Soi 6, personality wise, however. That's why I keep going back and looking. It is also something to do from 5:30 to 8 before the Go Go's open. I am glad it is there.

Member #4698
08-19-18, 13:49
Is there truly any monger destination we can go where we can find 9+ working girls without breaking the bank (over 7 k baht)? FKK clubs 5+ years ago provided that but I don't know of any at present.9's are very rare. The last 9's I had the opportunity to shag were 4 girls (2 Chinese mainland & 2 Korean) offered up in the "super model" category at Rio Sauna in Macau. These girls were gorgeous and their bodies were rocket ship amazing. Their price was 4000 macau pataca or $495 US each. Meanwhile in the same lineup there were very pretty regular Chinese girls at Rio for half the price. I was sorely tempted to go for one of the Korean girls, but I opted out and chose a cute Chinese regular girl, a 6.75 instead and she gave me a memorable session. So, at the time I was certain I made the right decision, but now 2 years later, I keep thinking about that Korean super model, the one that got away, so maybe I screwed up and made the wrong choice. You only live once. It is only money. You can't take it with you. Ha Ha.

I am stopping off in Macau for 5 nights on my Asian next trip. I haven't made my mind up on what I will do if I am offered a similar selection.

Julianity
08-19-18, 14:20
As a long time lurker, recently I have begon to wonder why I never see any report from Sutthisan Road (Tded etc) pass here.

I have never been there and been made aware of the area by a friend recently but I have no idea what's good there.

Any info on the surroundings? Is it a safe area?

Smoothy
08-19-18, 17:04
Is there truly any monger destination we can go where we can find 9+ working girls without breaking the bank (over 7 k baht)? Venezuela and Colombia.

Member #4698
08-19-18, 17:57
Venezuela and Colombia.Venezuela is a no go right now. The country is disintegrating and very dangerous at the moment. The time to go will be after somebody puts a bullet in Maduro's head and the rule of law and order is restored so that the nation can begin its long road back to economic sanity. We have not seen rock bottom yet. Meanwhile the price of Venezuelan poontang in Caracas is dirt cheap. The people have no money or even adequate food. Prices in hard currency will remain extraordinarily cheap for a good while after the coup or military intervention, so there will be plenty of time to go visit.

PS. We have plenty of hot Venezuelan girls in Miami, unfortunately prices are very expensive here.

Steve Ohh
08-19-18, 19:22
Hey guys,

I'm doing a trip to Bangkok for a bachelor party this coming February 2019 and need help, that's why I'm doing research now, I don't get the terminology Annies or tulips only? I'm visiting soi cowboy area but any other suggestions for a newbie, I'm usually in the Tijuana Mexico subsection and would like help from my mongering brothers with basic info like how much money should I bring for 2 weeks? I understand he baht conversion rate and they say you spend about 25 US dollars, but that's probably without mongering, What were the average prices? I see escort at 4000 baht which is around 120 you. S but wondering about other types like gogo / street / massage parlor pricing? And any suggestions to where we should go, probably a small group of 5 guys.

Any help, tips, suggestions would be appreciated.For two weeks I would go to Pattaya and stay only a few days in Bangkok. It's bigger, better, cheaper and only 2 h from Bangkok.

Check this link, that should help you. http://www.thailandredcat.com.

For a newbie in Bangkok I would stay anywhere between Nana and Soi Cowboy. The Massage Parlors you'll find on google. My favourite Agogo is crazy house near Soi Cowboy.

In Pattaya go to soi6 and walking street Agogos and bars. The Massage Parlors you'll find on google.

Have fun at your bachelor party.

Crocodilexp
08-19-18, 19:25
IMHO most Soi 6 girls are barely 5's with maybe a few 6's thrown in the mix along the way. I have never seen or shagged a 7 on Soi 6 much less an 8.Ratings are subjective (people prioritize different qualities), but I fully agree with this. On Soi 6, I haven't seen anyone above a 6/10 for many years, and even a 6 is not so common.

In fact, I don't think I've seen a true 9/10 working girl in all of Pattaya since 2011 or so, though I must admit, I don't go to expensive places. When I visit Pattaya for a few days, I adjust my expectations, but whenever I go back to Bangkok and ride the BTS, I have a "lord, where have I been" moment.


Is there truly any monger destination we can go where we can find 9+ working girls without breaking the bank (over 7 k baht)? FKK clubs 5+ years ago provided that but I don't know of any at present.If you're into Chinese looks, there are some 8+ girls, with maybe an occasional 9 in Hong Kong 141 buildings (Fuji, King Hing and a few more). The good ones typically charge 600 HKD, which is 2. 5 k baht, that's reasonable, especially given the location. Not a great scene for browsing, and typically not amazing service (a 20 min quickie), but if looks at an affordable price are all you're asking for, worth checking out.

Turgid
08-19-18, 19:54
Is there truly any monger destination we can go where we can find 9+ working girls without breaking the bank (over 7 k baht)? FKK clubs 5+ years ago provided that but I don't know of any at present.Definitely German FKKs. I have just returned from 3 months there and have in fact sessioned some 9's. That's the only reason I hobby there.

Smoothy
08-19-18, 21:31
the price of Venezuelan poontang in Caracas is dirt cheap.So true. Best looking girls in the world and the cheapest. I was checking the sexy caracas site the other day. Price is less than 1 usd for an hour with a girl who is a 9+

Phazze93
08-20-18, 04:54
We should have had this discussion last year when we hung out together about "what actually is a stunner 9+" Do you consider the girl I fucked at the Lord's Palace a 9 and above stunner? What about some of the girls I pointed to at Baccara? To me this girl in the photos is very stunning (slightly bigger tits and ass than I usually like). You are going to have to kind of list the qualities you see in a top tier girl in order for most guys to give input. Perhaps even show us an example. Also by now, I think you know whose opinion really counts and whose doesn't, when it comes hot girls and taste. Right?

P.S. Do you remember the story I told you about the scary hateful trolls that come out from under the bridge in search of young good looking Asian guys? Try not to let them eat you.

LOL yea I should have clarified a bit. Ill try to find a photo that would suitably represent my definition of a 9+ and post here. From what i recall, our tastes were relatively similar.

Although ratings are rather subjective. I'd say the girl in your photos would objectively be a 7-8 for me? Could be higher if I saw her in real life.
I'm personally not a big fan of the braces look + she's got that makeup caked on rather heavy. But those tits tho, if they're natural. <3.
I honestly can't remember what the girl you got at the Lord looked like. But from what I can remember, she was definitely quite pretty. Perhaps an 8-8. 5 from my hazy ass memory.
Personally, the traits that i need a girl to have to be a 9+ = pretty natural face, toned body, sizable natural tits, plump ass (doesn't have to be huge), tall-ish? at least 5'5-5'6, nice skin/little to no blemishes (healthy tan ok, but not dark)

p.s. to further clarify, my search for 9+ is simply in regards to looks. shot in the dark if the 9+ girl will be any good in bed.


Ratings are subjective (people prioritize different qualities), but I fully agree with this. On Soi 6, I haven't seen anyone above a 6/10 for many years, and even a 6 is not so common.

In fact, I don't think I've seen a true 9/10 working girl in all of Pattaya since 2011 or so, though I must admit, I don't go to expensive places. When I visit Pattaya for a few days, I adjust my expectations, but whenever I go back to Bangkok and ride the BTS, I have a "lord, where have I been" moment.

If you're into Chinese looks, there are some 8+ girls, with maybe an occasional 9 in Hong Kong 141 buildings (Fuji, King Hing and a few more). The good ones typically charge 600 HKD, which is 2. 5 k baht, that's reasonable, especially given the location. Not a great scene for browsing, and typically not amazing service (a 20 min quickie), but if looks at an affordable price are all you're asking for, worth checking out.

I'm not really into the whole in-call scene in HK. In-call in general that is.
Unless its like a soapy like business wherein the facilities are very well kept IE: the Lord or better.
(there was a couple I visited in Shanghai that were super nice).

Phazze93
08-20-18, 05:10
Then don't go to Thailand. I have only seen one 9+ in the 20 or so years I have been visiting Thailand. That was a Thai girlfriend of a Thai General's son in Bangkok. That General's son was mid 20's and quite good looking as far as Thai guys go, and of course rich. He was spending a fortune on her to maintain her, but she was definitely a stunner.

There are lots of 7's and even a few 8's, but I doubt you will be finding any 9+ girls.LOL I did see your post about that which I thought was quite funny. I've seen a handful of 9's in Bangkok I believe. By a handful I mean it was definitely more on the rare side given there aren't nearly as many options in Bangkok as I'd like. Only places I consistently like are Bacarra, Rainbow 5/2 (I could be getting my numbers mixed up) & the Lord.

Lefeu
08-20-18, 06:53
...If you're into Chinese looks, there are some 8+ girls, with maybe an occasional 9 in Hong Kong 141 buildings (Fuji, King Hing and a few more). The good ones typically charge 600 HKD, which is 2. 5 k baht, that's reasonable, especially given the location. Not a great scene for browsing, and typically not amazing service (a 20 min quickie), but if looks at an affordable price are all you're asking for, worth checking out.I have visited many 141 buildings in HKG, multiple times, and I don't recall seeing any good looking girls there that would qualify as an 8+ or a 9.

However, I have seen quite a few over the years in Macau Saunas. The saunas seem to have grabbed most of the Chinese eye candy bracing the HKG / Macau shores. However, as is typically the case, I mostly paid for their looks, and I did not get much in the way of service.

Lefeu
08-20-18, 07:03
Venezuela and Colombia.I agree about Colombia having eye candy providers, but Venezuela is not safe at this time. Many providers from that country are plying their trade in Colombia these days.

I would add Brazil to that list. Rio and Sao Paulo feature some decent eye candy. One can also find eye candy at the FKKs, but it is still Caucasian providers. They cannot compete with the other ethnicities in the GFE department. Eye candy without GFE is like preparing a nice dish but forgetting to add spices.

Lefeu
08-20-18, 07:11
...I am stopping off in Macau for 5 nights on my Asian next trip. I haven't made my mind up on what I will do if I am offered a similar selection.Go for a Korean next time, and you will not regret it. I have and it's been like a dream come true.

I am even leaning Korean now, and I visited a working girl in Seoul, where I spent 4 days of bliss with her.

Also, as you are probably aware, for the last 15 years or so, we have been blessed with a barrage of Korean providers visiting our US shores regularly. That was my cure for the Caucasian poon, and I have never looked back, and never been so pleased.

Banana Boi
08-20-18, 07:22
Ratings are subjective (people prioritize different qualities), but I fully agree with this. On Soi 6, I haven't seen anyone above a 6/10 for many years, and even a 6 is not so common.
Very true. Ratings are subjective. Someone may be a much tougher grader than the next guy. More importantly, we all have different taste on what a 8 or a 9 looks like. I have seen the odd 7 or 8 on Soi 6 but I live here so chances of me seeing one is much higher than a tourist who comes here maybe 2 months total out of the year.


Venezuela and Colombia.Thanks. No doubt Venezuela likely has 9's. Unfortunately with the chaos happening there right now it's not even close to being on my radar. Medellin seems to be safer these days and is a consideration.



I'm not really into the whole in-call scene in HK. In-call in general that is.
Unless its like a soapy like business wherein the facilities are very well kept IE: the Lord or better.
(there was a couple I visited in Shanghai that were super nice).

Then don't even consider doing any girl on Soi 6. I guess you can take her back to your hotel.



Definitely German FKKs. I have just returned from 3 months there and have in fact sessioned some 9's. That's the only reason I hobby there.I know you are an experienced FKK guy like myself but I've been pretty hard pressed to find many 9's in a FKK club for some years. Used to be commonplace at GT and Oase 5+ years ago. Which clubs have you been seeing the 9's? My style is along the lines of Adele when she first started at Samya 5 years ago (now possibly at Mainhattan) and Luana when she first started at LR. Super pale white skin and busty with a cute face. With the decline of the German girls like Sam and Leoni at GT or Kitty at ACA it's tough for me to return. It's all Romanian all day long now but I'd love to see Madalina at ACA, Ramona at Oase, or Beatriz at Mondial again.

Wimble
08-20-18, 13:28
Wait a couple days and it will be like 50 cents. Sooner of later, they are going to wise up and charge in US $. Turkey is getting cheaper too.


So true. Best looking girls in the world and the cheapest. I was checking the sexy caracas site the other day. Price is less than 1 usd for an hour with a girl who is a 9+

Syzygies
08-20-18, 14:06
Is there truly any monger destination we can go where we can find 9+ working girls without breaking the bank (over 7 k baht)? FKK clubs 5+ years ago provided that but I don't know of any at present.I see Natty Bumpo replied. His taste is generally somewhat similar to mine. We often liked the same girls. However you taste is quite different I feel. Even in FKK, while you find plenty of girls with great bodies, those that were really pretty for the face and had a great body have been extremely limited for over 10 years.

Brenda "the body" at FKK Sharks has a 10 points body for me (despite ass slightly small), but face is no more than an 7.5 at best. She is still the hottest in the club easily for me. At other clubs recently did not see a face really above an 8. Even years ago a 9 was quite rare.

For most guys, young plus good body = stunning, but not at all for me. The face matters. Took a skinny Laos girl yesterday that is excessively cute in the face for my taste, but may not be for others. Small tits but nice shape. She once worked an MP around Soi 24, but cannot now as is Laos. I met her as a newbie with low skills, but 2 years later she has improved a lot in performance on the bed. Will send you pic and you can see if your taste at all or completely not.

Meanwhile last night took a 3 some 37 YO slim girl still very sexy (I did not know she was quite that old) and 21 YO with big tits, sort of opposite to the MILF and daughter fantasy. LOL The older girl had the tighter pussy (despite a child). Wasn't the first time with these 2, so I knew they would be good. The young has a temporary problem to do blow job so the older one had to take the cock sucking duties with young one on the balls licking. Worked out just fine.

Smoothy
08-20-18, 16:03
Will send you pic .Why not post it here for us all to see? I'm curious about her nose. I'm sure you would agree, that's the most critical feature of any woman.

Banana Boi
08-20-18, 18:38
For most guys, young plus good body = stunning, but not at all for me. The face matters. Took a skinny Laos girl yesterday that is excessively cute in the face for my taste, but may not be for others. Small tits but nice shape. She once worked an MP around Soi 24, but cannot now as is Laos. I met her as a newbie with low skills, but 2 years later she has improved a lot in performance on the bed. Will send you pic and you can see if your taste at all or completely not.Thanks she's very cute facially. I would certainly go with her if she were at Thermae, a BKK oily, or on Soi 6 in Pattaya. I'm a face guy. A girl can have the best body in the world but if I can't get by the face I don't even look twice at her.

Yes, we definitely have different taste in Thai women. You have what I call Farang taste and I have Asian taste same as the Korean and Japanese men. Although there is some crossover like the Laos girl photo you sent me, for the most part we would never compete for the same girl in Thailand and even Germany.

TKOman
08-21-18, 05:10
What is BBK's most posh brothel? I'm looking for quality in terms of girls, atmosphere and service.

Goatscrot
08-21-18, 06:33
Venezuela is a no go right now. The country is disintegrating and very dangerous at the moment. The time to go will be after somebody puts a bullet in Maduro's head and the rule of law and order is restored so that the nation can begin its long road back to economic sanity. We have not seen rock bottom yet. Meanwhile the price of Venezuelan poontang in Caracas is dirt cheap. The people have no money or even adequate food. Prices in hard currency will remain extraordinarily cheap for a good while after the coup or military intervention, so there will be plenty of time to go visit.

PS. We have plenty of hot Venezuelan girls in Miami, unfortunately prices are very expensive here.And that is exactly what would make it probably the best P4 P destination on the planet at the moment. The time to go is when others won't.

Goatscrot
08-21-18, 06:39
We should have had this discussion last year when we hung out together about "what actually is a stunner 9+" Do you consider the girl I fucked at the Lord's Palace a 9 and above stunner? What about some of the girls I pointed to at Baccara? To me this girl in the photos is very stunning (slightly bigger tits and ass than I usually like). You are going to have to kind of list the qualities you see in a top tier girl in order for most guys to give input. Perhaps even show us an example. Also by now, I think you know whose opinion really counts and whose doesn't, when it comes hot girls and taste. Right?

P.S. Do you remember the story I told you about the scary hateful trolls that come out from under the bridge in search of young good looking Asian guys? Try not to let them eat you.Like the skin color but don't like the surgeries. Face looks very "fake. " Nose job is very sharp, lips thin, and body looks very soft as well (I like a gal who is toned). I like a more natural looking face, for lack of a better term. I have no issue with implants as long as they are the teardrop shaped ones and look natural.

I am surprised that you don't partake in China, HK, and Macau. The gals are much fairer and will look similar to this gal without the surgery.

Goferring
08-21-18, 07:21
And that is exactly what would make it probably the best P4 P destination on the planet at the moment. The time to go is when others won't.Those of us of a certain age will remember Asia in the late 80's and 90's where a series of dictators collapsed and the general region was then gripped by a Financial Crisis. Shots were fired, buildings burned and millions fell back / further into poverty.

Many would get a sense of deja vu with what is happening in Venezuela now.

Banana Boi
08-21-18, 12:29
What is BBK's most posh brothel? I'm looking for quality in terms of girls, atmosphere and service.Someone may know of higher end places but I'm guessing it would either be a G club like The Pimp. I'm sure some of the KTV places on Thaniya Road are more high end than the usual places reported on here. If you go please report back on either since reports on these types of places are few and far between. I'm assuming posh means you are not on a restricted budget.

https://www.facebook.com/ThePimpBangkok

Syzygies
08-21-18, 13:36
Like the skin color but don't like the surgeries. Face looks very "fake. " Nose job is very sharp, lips thin, and body looks very soft as well (I like a gal who is toned). I like a more natural looking face, for lack of a better term. Yep what is a stunner for one does not do it for you nor for me. Pic 3 is especially weird for me. As most know, I have a problem with the surgeries look too, while I can accept implants if very soft and not too misshaped. Skin colour is not factor me really, if not excessively dark or excessively light.

Being stunning is not about skin colour for me.

Smoothy
08-21-18, 13:42
Pic 3 is especially weird for me.Very likely a post op lady boy.

Syzygies
08-21-18, 13:57
Those of us of a certain age will remember Asia in the late 80's and 90's where a series of dictators collapsed and the general region was then gripped by a Financial Crisis. Shots were fired, buildings burned and millions fell back / further into poverty.
Yes the price for a girl for the night back in 91 was 500 Baht for the night or maybe even 400 plus a BF of maybe 160 Baht. You truly had to pay girls to get them to leave, sometimes. They did not want to leave, ever. The is probably a statement about economic tough times and general poverty. Their were no mobile phones for girls. I recall really great times at bars and soapies. Girls had good figures due to lack of junk food I guess.

So it's all gone to shit now somewhat, due to junk food, smart phones, inflation, tourists with a lot of cash to waste, ladyboys and Coyotes filling the Cowboy, etc. , also the punters like me get a lot fussier than we used to be. Any young Thai girl used to seem hot compared to typical fat Farang girls back home.

Anand Panyarachun was the benevolent scientist PM appointed as caretaker PM in maybe 91 or 92 or so. Anand was actually a very welcome guy but did not stand for elections. I guess that was not so long after the famous coup incident at the Ratanakosin Hotel. Nope that can't be right, that incident must have been later since I had previously stayed at that Hotel. Prajinda got booted out from being the dictator (by you know who) at some point (I guess later 90's). My timeline is sketchy now.

I don't see though that the lastest financial crises really helped us out much though. The previous one was seeing 40 to 50 Baht to the US Dollar. That was good for mongers but could not last. It was a fantastic time to buy cheap property in Bangkok though if you were Thai or had other ways.

Syzygies
08-21-18, 14:05
Very likely a post op lady boy.I would not go that far, but in general high surgeries girls remind me of ladyboys, a lot, especially in Bacarra bar. Yet can be popular with the Japanese customers the ones that look like LBs to me. So it is a big turn off, from my sexual desire.

I have nothing against ladyboys if charming, to talk to, but I imagine most of us on this forum are not into "dick". I even fast forward in porn if get to a blow job section. Seeing the dick is just not exciting for me at all.

The short time Hotel in Soi Asoke has a lot of Asian guy customers, and I would estimate that 70 to 80% of them are with a ladyboy rather than a real girl. Can be a shock to see several real girls there at one time (other than my girl). I assume that Japanese guys are too shy to take LB back to there normal Hotel or abode, so the reason for so many LBs in the ST Hotel.

O.K. with high surgeries, sometimes I cannot be sure, but think 90% likely LB. Usually my girl agrees they are LBs (in a whisper). Thai society seems to find it impolite to be speculating if the companion is a LB or not. Strange.

Turgid
08-21-18, 17:34
......I know you are an experienced FKK guy like myself but I've been pretty hard pressed to find many 9's in a FKK club for some years. Used to be commonplace at GT and Oase 5+ years ago. Which clubs have you been seeing the 9's? My style is along the lines of Adele when she first started at Samya 5 years ago (now possibly at Mainhattan) and Luana when she first started at LR. Super pale white skin and busty with a cute face. With the decline of the German girls like Sam and Leoni at GT or Kitty at ACA it's tough for me to return. It's all Romanian all day long now but I'd love to see Madalina at ACA, Ramona at Oase, or Beatriz at Mondial again.Well, like myself, you have sampled FKKs during what I would refer to as the really great times which were the years leading up to 2012. It is not possible to relive those days presently. The club I enjoyed the most during the last 3 months was Sharks where there were a few 9's the best of which in my books was Esther. However, the down side is that all the 9's were Asian hunters and delivered less than desirable service, however, the optic factor was available. Oase also had a few 9's which for me the best was Katrrina (some guys don't like her face but I do), she's tall and slender and gave me good service for 100 euros / 1 hour. Globe in Switzerland is reputed to have some 9's who give good service but I did not venture there due to its pricyness. I have also been informed that Wellcum FKK also has a few 9's.

I was in Brazil for 3 months earlier this year in search of 9's but did not find any. Like FKKs the quality has deteriorated; as recently as last year and the year before I found a few but was only able to manage some 6's and 7's and perhaps one or two 8's this year. The upper end boites like Scandallo and Bomboa in Sao Paulo are reputed to have some 9's. Prior to 2010 I was able to session some 9's in Medellin Colombia but have only encountered 1 since then in Loutrons. I don't frequent Fase Dos and other similar nightclubs where it is rumoured 9's are to be found. There is mention of top level girls on the Montreal board but I have not been able to summon the mental financial gumption to sample there. I have never been to Macau and I think that might be a destination I would visit to once again experience the elusive 9.

Amnesia
08-21-18, 18:24
Someone may know of higher end places but I'm guessing it would either be a G club like The Pimp. I'm sure some of the KTV places on Thaniya Road are more high end than the usual places reported on here.Neither of them are brothels. You throw a ridiculous amount of money at those girls but you still won't get any sex from them until you are their regular and de-facto sugar daddy / BF. You might get a BJ if you rent one of the VIP rooms with your buddies and throw a big party, plus tipping the girl generously for the BJ. But what's the point?

I've been to these places quite some times. Not because I like it there, but to entertain clients, staff, or being invited by the bosses. I always get mad, even when I don't have to pay the five to six digit Baht bill myself, because it just seems wrong that a girl with the intellect of a piece of bread would get a shit load of money for drinking your bottle and faking interest in you. They're not even fun to be with because they're as stupid and uneducated as any other working girl. For some reason, Asian guys seem to love these places. I know guys who have memberships in several of these clubs. They go there like every weekend to see "their" girls.

I don't even think girls in these places are particularly high-end. The last time I went to The Pimp a few weeks back, I thought girls were pretty average.

Member #4698
08-21-18, 20:10
I don't even think girls in these places are particularly high-end. The last time I went to The Pimp a few weeks back, I thought girls were pretty average.The G Club culture is different from the Go Go culture. Successful foreign Asian businessmen and wealthy Thai's like to entertain their clients, associates and friends in these elite high class honky tonks. The idea is the more you spend on drink and the girl's company for the benefit of your guests, the more successful a businessman you are in their eyes. It is smart business and good customer/client relations Asian style. These guys can even write off the tab as a business expense. Other club members are simply wealthy and don't care what a night out costs as long as they are having a good time with their friends in a high class bordello. La Belle and The Lord (in it's day) offered private memberships too. There were nights when I have seen over 20 girls taken out of the lineup for a private party God knows where elsewhere on the premises leaving only the dregs available for the rest of us. Membership has its privileges.

On the other hand, I would tend to agree with you that most of the Pimp Club girls, for example, are not above the better Go Go quality girls even though they are from a different region of Thailand. But there are a few exceptions that stand out in the looks department. Thus, developing a relationship with one of the standouts is the reason why a solo Farang punter like myself might consider paying up and becoming a member at one of these joints. I have not done it yet, LOL, in all my years of visiting BKK, but I haven't ruled it out either. Think of the membership fee and the cost of visiting the club as an initial capital sexual investment. Once you have the G girl of your desire, a standout, and by have I mean once you have shagged her once or twice, you no longer need to visit the club and the G club girl is not that much more expensive than any other really good looking, light skinned, model category Thai hooker. Around 6000 to 9000 baht per shot depending on the girl.

Banana Boi
08-22-18, 06:17
I don't even think girls in these places are particularly high-end. The last time I went to The Pimp a few weeks back, I thought girls were pretty average.I listed these places because the OP was ISO 'posh'. Girls looks are subjective and, as Natty said, you can likely find girls as hot at a good gogo bar. However, gogo bars are not what I would ever consider 'posh'.

I spent my 20's and early 30's in many karaoke rooms when I was in the business world. I know all too well the games those girls play. Surprised they are not FS here. We used to always take karaoke girls home for sex.

MonkeyPaw
08-22-18, 06:30
I listed these places because the OP was ISO 'posh'. Girls looks are subjective and, as Natty said, you can likely find girls as hot at a good gogo bar. However, gogo bars are not what I would ever consider 'posh'.

I spent my 20's and early 30's in many karaoke rooms when I was in the business world. I know all too well the games those girls play. Surprised they are not FS here. We used to always take karaoke girls home for sex.Who said they aren't full service? I've been to Thaniya inside the karaoke clubs 3 times in 2016. Each time I took a girl out at back to my room for sex afterwards. I paid 5,000 each time for the girl to stay until the next day. I never take anybody's word on here as definite. Every members should begin their responses with "From my own personal experience OR In my opinion. " Less confusion.

MonkeyPaw
08-22-18, 06:49
Like the skin color but don't like the surgeries. Face looks very "fake. " Nose job is very sharp, lips thin, and body looks very soft as well (I like a gal who is toned). I like a more natural looking face, for lack of a better term. I have no issue with implants as long as they are the teardrop shaped ones and look natural.

I am surprised that you don't partake in China, HK, and Macau. The gals are much fairer and will look similar to this gal without the surgery.The most I'm allowed to do now in HK is a massage, and then I have to do it with a towel covering my head and face. I've done fairly attractive girls every where in the world. And paying for sex is too easy that way. I keep telling folks, it's about "the chase" for me. Nothing more thrilling then having a set budget for the night, usually about 10,000 a night. Going to hunt in the Go Go bars and then trying to get the exact girl you want, first choice. And then playing games with her or them to get the BEST experience for you. When you have accomplish that, you know you have also beaten out the other customers who want that same girl (s) in doing so. Some of who better looking and with a shit load of money more than I have. You feel accomplished. That's why I mainly do Go Go bars in Thailand. It's about winning against everybody. But yes, there are hotter girls in other establishments and countries for sure. But there is no game playing. Selecting a girl and fucking her, even a newbie can do and it takes no street smarts or any game playing, like the Go Gos. However, you cannot see them naked before you take the plunge. Being a stunner is more than just face. It's the overall body of work. Don't know how many times, I've taken girls fully dressed because of a pretty face and then I got disappointed by their tits or ass or stomach. This doesn't happen at the Go Go bars. Full inspection for those who are lucky enough to get to inspect the goods.

D Cups
08-22-18, 14:52
really good looking, light skinned, model category Thai hooker. Around 6000 to 9000 baht per shot depending on the girl.Yikes for that kind of money she better give me porn star quality service all night long and in the morning, vids, pics, CIM, the works. Even then I've never paid that much in my life. The average cost should be the equivalent of $50 USD IMHO. I'm willing to go up to $100 for top quality but geez it's only sex. Cheers, buddy.

MonkeyPaw
08-22-18, 18:47
Yikes for that kind of money she better give me porn star quality service all night long and in the morning, vids, pics, CIM, the works. Even then I've never paid that much in my life. The average cost should be the equivalent of $50 USD IMHO. I'm willing to go up to $100 for top quality but geez it's only sex. Cheers, buddy.From my own experience, I agree somewhat. For some, it's only sex. And of course for others, it's only money. Which ones are the luckier ones? The ones who have fun while not caring too much about either, sex nor money. That type of guy has sex probably everyday, with a different girl or two, and doesn't give a shit about money because he just changes the girls out anyways, good service, bad service, GFE, PSE etc. No matter what they do or how well they perform, new top quality girls will always come and go endlessly his way, unless there is divine intervention.

Robert Long
08-22-18, 20:06
Yikes for that kind of money she better give me porn star quality service all night long and in the morning, vids, pics, CIM, the works. Even then I've never paid that much in my life. The average cost should be the equivalent of $50 USD IMHO. I'm willing to go up to $100 for top quality but geez it's only sex. Cheers, buddy.Our boy Trump pays $130,000 to keep them quiet. But $300 to $900 is just way to much to pay for sex. My golf buddies go to Machu and they pay $250.00 for club fee and a lady of their choice. Ladies from many different countries. I'm sure that our senior members have had the pleasure. But in SEA to pay that much is insane.

You can in your own mind believe you are the "Great White Hunter on Safari" but the bottom line is a 6 or 7 can be so much better than a 9 or 10. Performance wise. For $200.00 less. Although it sounds like fun leaving the hotel with the Great Hunt goal.

RL.

Member #4698
08-22-18, 20:22
Yikes for that kind of money she better give me porn star quality service all night long and in the morning, vids, pics, CIM, the works. Even then I've never paid that much in my life. The average cost should be the equivalent of $50 USD IMHO. I'm willing to go up to $100 for top quality but geez it's only sex. Cheers, buddy.That's why I never bought a membership at one of these joints even when the club was offering a 5 bottle discount or something. And remember, more than half the G club girls are not available for barfine. They are in-house VIP room only girls and offer only the possibility of hooking up later if everything goes well. So guess which half of the girls are barfinable and which are not? 555. Then again, everyone has different tastes and the salient point I am trying to make is that some girls are barfinable. So it is best to ask your hostess which ones are before asking a girl or girls to sit with you unless you are playing the long game and looking for a standout. I should add that in addition, these clubs have shot glass girls that come around offering unoccupied guests Tequila shots in exchange for a little public hanky panky. It is good fun if you have plenty of cash.

Incidentally, they have the same type of clubs in Manila. They are called KTV's, but do not confuse them with the small KTV shops in Malate. To distinguish the difference, I call the big fancy ones International Clubs. Airforce One is a famous example. I have been to AF1 many times, but I always played it simple and went downstairs to their soapy massage parlor called Flight 168 settling for less hype & glitz, but a definite, much less expensive, sure thing.

One night after an enjoyable Flight 168 session with a pretty 6 star girl, I wandered into AF1 and a friendly host or manager took me under his wing and showed me around the place. It was still a little early for the show, so he took me backstage to the girl's makeup & wardrobe room and Jesus, God all mighty, I spotted a true stunner (8.5 stars) there. She smiled at me and I went over and had a little conversation with her. She was really very friendly and unpretentious which I liked a lot, but basically she said that if I was interested in her I would have to stick around for the show and buy her drinks ect, ect, ect. I was mightily tempted by her beauty and friendly personality in-spite of the fact that I had just had a very good session with a cute executive class massage girl. But since I knew the capital outlay to nab Miss Superstar would have run in excess of 12,000 pesos, probably closer to 20,000, I told her I would come back another night to see her. She gave me one of those "you don't know what you are missing" looks and I left a little reluctantly with my dick still in my pants. Little Natty never got over big Natty's decision. LOL.

Member #4698
08-22-18, 20:45
Our boy Trump pays $130,000 to keep them quiet. But $300 to $900 is just way to much to pay for sex. My golf buddies go to Machu and they pay $250.00 for club fee and a lady of their choice. Ladies from many different countries. I'm sure that our senior members have had the pleasure. But in SEA to pay that much is insane.

You can in your own mind believe you are the "Great White Hunter on Safari" but the bottom line is a 6 or 7 can be so much better than a 9 or 10. Performance wise. For $200.00 less. Although it sounds like fun leaving the hotel with the Great Hunt goal.

RL.What amazes me about this whole bS affair is not the amount of money involved. Trump has billions. He could pay a G Club girl 25,000 baht all inclusive for club membership, drinks, VIP room, and boom boom without batting an eye lid. And then he would offer an additional 100,00 baht for a non disclosure agreement. This is small change for a billionaire of any nationality. Remember Charlie Sheen's standard non disclosure clauses and he had far less money than Trump.

What amazes me is how friggin' fuglly Stormy is. That skank would have to pay me $130,000 to shag her! OK, I exaggerate and I am cheap. In reality, I would throw back a few Tequilas and shag her for a couple of grand. DATY, of course, would be extra.

EihTooms
08-22-18, 21:32
What amazes me about this whole bS affair is not the amount of money involved. Trump has billions. He could pay a G Club girl 25,000 baht all inclusive for club membership, drinks, VIP room, and boom boom without batting an eye lid. And then he would offer an additional 100,00 baht for a non disclosure agreement. This is small change for a billionaire of any nationality.Except President Cheeto-lini has been a notorious deadbeat all of his adult life, stiffing employees and companies he bamboozled into doing business with him for far less than $130,000. I'm guessing he batted his eye lids quite a lot when he had to actually pay that barine or risk losing the election and getting the cold shoulder from Melania for a month or more.

Turgid
08-22-18, 22:03
.............What amazes me is how friggin' fuglly Stormy is. That skank would have to pay me $130,000 to shag her! OK, I exaggerate and I am cheap. In reality, I would throw back a few Tequilas and shag her for a couple of grand. DATY, of course, would be extra.Its amazing how tastes differ. I'd pay good money to do everything sexual with her and more. Stormy has that sexy mom next door look that I fantasized on as a teen.

Member #4698
08-22-18, 22:53
Its amazing how tastes differ. I'd pay good money to do everything sexual with her and more. Stormy has that sexy mom next door look that I fantasized on as a teen.Good one! You made me laugh. But if you are looking for wild crazy Mom bitches what about Ellen Barkin in "Animal Kingdom"? It is hard to believe that it is the same actress I used to have a hard on for in "Sea of Love" among other movies back in 80's.

Syzygies
08-23-18, 08:25
Good one! You made me laugh. But if you are looking for wild crazy Mom bitches what about Ellen Barkin in "Animal Kingdom"? It is hard to believe that it is the same actress I used to have a hard on for in "Sea of Love" among other movies back in 80's.I agree about Stormy a bit chunky and not that pretty. LOL I remember "Sea of Love" very well. Ellen was skinny but surely not specially pretty. Just steaming hot! (1989 is a long while back even before I started coming to Thailand). I would prefer Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct, myself, for that sort of era. All these girls get old of course. Sharon is just under my age, which is too old for me now, but I would make an exception I guess, If I could ignore the implants. LOL I once had a Thai GF (for a short while) whose face shape was somewhat similar to Sharon. She was good on the bed but too crazy (a bit like in Basic Instinct LOL).

Smoothy
08-23-18, 12:46
Its amazing how tastes differ. I'd pay good money to do everything sexual with her and more. Stormy has that sexy mom next door look that I fantasized on as a teen.I do think she's still shaggable these days even though she's 40 years old. Trump shagged her in her prime though when she was mid 20's and she was pretty damn hot back then. Any red blooded man would have shagged her back then. I much prefer that other one Trump was with, Karen McDougal. Smoking hot. That being said, I'd still prefer Ivanka or Tiffany Trump over any of them. Stunners.

D Cups
08-23-18, 14:25
I do think she's still shaggable these days even though she's 40 years old. Trump shagged her in her prime though when she was mid 20's and she was pretty damn hot back then. Any red blooded man would have shagged her back then. I much prefer that other one Trump was with, Karen McDougal. Smoking hot. That being said, I'd still prefer Ivanka or Tiffany Trump over any of them. Stunners.I Stormy Daniels is coming to one of the Gentleman's clubs in Sacramento where I live in October and I think I will go and see her. This particular place has booths in the back for hanky panky. She gives a nice BJ in her films.

Goatscrot
08-23-18, 15:26
The most I'm allowed to do now in HK is a massage, and then I have to do it with a towel covering my head and face. I've done fairly attractive girls every where in the world. And paying for sex is too easy that way. I keep telling folks, it's about "the chase" for me. Nothing more thrilling then having a set budget for the night, usually about 10,000 a night. Going to hunt in the Go Go bars and then trying to get the exact girl you want, first choice. And then playing games with her or them to get the BEST experience for you. When you have accomplish that, you know you have also beaten out the other customers who want that same girl (s) in doing so. Some of who better looking and with a shit load of money more than I have. You feel accomplished. That's why I mainly do Go Go bars in Thailand. It's about winning against everybody. But yes, there are hotter girls in other establishments and countries for sure. But there is no game playing. Selecting a girl and fucking her, even a newbie can do and it takes no street smarts or any game playing, like the Go Gos. However, you cannot see them naked before you take the plunge. Being a stunner is more than just face. It's the overall body of work. Don't know how many times, I've taken girls fully dressed because of a pretty face and then I got disappointed by their tits or ass or stomach. This doesn't happen at the Go Go bars. Full inspection for those who are lucky enough to get to inspect the goods.Honestly, if I wanted to "compete" I wouldn't pay for it and would have stayed in the US. For me that defeats the point of P4 P. I don't have any need to feel accomplished. There are other aspects of my life that satisfy that in full. P4 P for the majority of punters I know is about ease and fun, not competition.

Goatscrot
08-23-18, 15:27
Yikes for that kind of money she better give me porn star quality service all night long and in the morning, vids, pics, CIM, the works. Even then I've never paid that much in my life. The average cost should be the equivalent of $50 USD IMHO. I'm willing to go up to $100 for top quality but geez it's only sex. Cheers, buddy.Could not agree more.

Julianity
08-23-18, 16:43
The most I'm allowed to do now in HK is a massage, and then I have to do it with a towel covering my head and face. I've done fairly attractive girls every where in the world. And paying for sex is too easy that way. I keep telling folks, it's about "the chase" for me. Nothing more thrilling then having a set budget for the night, usually about 10,000 a night. Going to hunt in the Go Go bars and then trying to get the exact girl you want, first choice. And then playing games with her or them to get the BEST experience for you. When you have accomplish that, you know you have also beaten out the other customers who want that same girl (s) in doing so. Some of who better looking and with a shit load of money more than I have. You feel accomplished. That's why I mainly do Go Go bars in Thailand. It's about winning against everybody. But yes, there are hotter girls in other establishments and countries for sure. But there is no game playing. Selecting a girl and fucking her, even a newbie can do and it takes no street smarts or any game playing, like the Go Gos. However, you cannot see them naked before you take the plunge. Being a stunner is more than just face. It's the overall body of work. Don't know how many times, I've taken girls fully dressed because of a pretty face and then I got disappointed by their tits or ass or stomach. This doesn't happen at the Go Go bars. Full inspection for those who are lucky enough to get to inspect the goods.100% agree, I love the chase more than anything. One time in Phuket I ended up shagging a girls from devils playground and had her pay my taxi home. Even though she wasn't a stunner I just love the accomplished feeling of turning the tables on a gogo girl.

P4P is fun, but I always want something others are not getting.

Member #4698
08-23-18, 20:15
I've done fairly attractive girls every where in the world. And paying for sex is too easy that way. I keep telling folks, it's about "the chase" for me. Nothing more thrilling then having a set budget for the night, usually about 10,000 a night. Going to hunt in the Go Go bars and then trying to get the exact girl you want, first choice. And then playing games with her or them to get the BEST experience for you. When you have accomplish that, you know you have also beaten out the other customers who want that same girl (s) in doing so. Some of who better looking and with a shit load of money more than I have. You feel accomplished. That's why I mainly do Go Go bars in Thailand. It's about winning against everybody. But yes, there are hotter girls in other establishments and countries for sure. But there is no game playing. Selecting a girl and fucking her, even a newbie can do and it takes no street smarts or any game playing, like the Go Gos. However, you cannot see them naked before you take the plunge. Being a stunner is more than just face. It's the overall body of work. Don't know how many times, I've taken girls fully dressed because of a pretty face and then I got disappointed by their tits or ass or stomach. This doesn't happen at the Go Go bars. Full inspection for those who are lucky enough to get to inspect the goods.


100% agree, I love the chase more than anything. One time in Phuket I ended up shagging a girls from devils playground and had her pay my taxi home. Even though she wasn't a stunner I just love the accomplished feeling of turning the tables on a gogo girl.

P4P is fun, but I always want something others are not getting.On a typical, tropical, out of high season night at around 9 pm, there will usually be IMHO and experience at least 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in each of my 3 favorite Cowboy Go Go's, 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in my 3 favorite Nana Go Go's, and 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in my 2 favorite Patpong Go Go's. That's conservatively at least 16 desirable, unattached Go Go girls available to me on any ordinary night on just the Go Go circuit. So, I honestly don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. There is no competition with other punters. It is only in your head. Other punters, as far as I am concerned, don't even exist. There is only the girls, the staff, the mamas, and yours truly. And I am entirely focused on the girls and having a good time with them. I have no time or inclination for games. I have said it many times. I will say it again now: if you treat the girls nice and they will return the favor a hundred-fold. It is that simple.

EihTooms
08-23-18, 23:30
On a typical, tropical, out of high season night at around 9 pm, there will usually be IMHO and experience at least 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in each of my 3 favorite Cowboy Go Go's, 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in my 3 favorite Nana Go Go's, and 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in my 2 favorite Patpong Go Go's. That's conservatively at least 16 desirable, unattached Go Go girls available to me on any ordinary night on just the Go Go circuit. So, I honestly don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. There is no competition with other punters. It is only in your head. Other punters, as far as I am concerned, don't even exist. There is only the girls, the staff, the mamas, and yours truly. And I am entirely focused on the girls and having a good time with them. I have no time or inclination for games. I have said it many times. I will say it again now: if you treat the girls nice and they will return the favor a hundred-fold. It is that simple.You nailed it there, Natty. That is my observation and experience as well. There is zero evidence that what some of these fellows crow about afterwards is all that difficult to accomplish, so great an acheivement or particularly challenging as sport or game.

"People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election."
- Bismark

LOL. Btw, Bismark might have added "before the wedding" to that list of occasions.

Arated
08-24-18, 23:02
My friend and I started our final day in Bangkok by visiting the very famous Dr Wood bar. Needless to say, service as expected and blew a nice load to get my day started. Later in the eve after a few drinks we started exploring the night scene from Thermae to Nana. My friend and I both wanted someone great and just didn't get that vibe.

Finally around 2 am, after a dozen beers at different bars I was ready to crash and decided to head back to the hotel. Thermae was on our way and had just closed, so all the girls were waiting outside, which worked out well for my friend, who started negotiating with a spinner, while I kept walking towards my hotel. Just before walking in I hear a voice from behind and look to see a short busty fair skinned straight hair early 30's secretary looking girl in a tight long dress with glasses. Even though I was tired, this girl was exactly the looks I dig, so I walk up to her and she whispers in my ears, "I want you to put your cock in my pussy". I come close and say no I don't want to, she looked puzzled, and then I said "I want to put my dick in your mouth". She smiled and said 1500, I usually don't bargain but given its late night I tried my luck and said 1000 and another 500 for good service. She had that GF thing about her, giggled and shyly started to walk with me. We check her in and already in the elevator, I am feeling her up through her tight dress and caressing her boobs. I can't tell how I hard I was!

Inside she starts by brushing her teeth and then joins me in the shower, quick clean up and she rubs me dry. In our bathrobes, I sit on chair and open my laptop and put one of my favorite blowjob scenes of an Asian girl deep throat some dude. She sees it and her eyes go wide open, she asks if this is me and even though it was from the web, I said yeah, a girl in Vietnam did this and I want you to do better. Wow it was an awesome sight, seeing her eyes glued to my laptop watching a blowjob while sitting between my legs slowly stroking my cock, sexiest thing ever. She looked at the screen one final time and goes as deep as I have ever had any girl go. Even I was not expecting that. She was actually doing a better than the girl on screen. So good I had to pull her away so I don't cum too fast. This went on for the next 10 minutes, I made her keep her glasses on and finally could not control and blew a load straight in her face. Like a submissive GF said goes "what are you doing", but too late I had already glazed her face.

She cleans both of us with a towel and goes back to the washroom to clean herself. She comes back and I was lying on bed scrolling through random porn. She slowly started putting her dress back as I took out 1500 bhatt. Even though I laterally blew my load 10 minutes ago, seeing this short busty girl with glasses put on her tight dress while there is porn running in the background made me hard again, so I immediately pulled the money away and said stay for another shot and she said no its already 3 and I need to get home. I take out another 1000, put it on the bed and like magic she suddenly stopped and started removing her dress. I tell her this time suck me slowly for the next 30 minutes, no hands just deep and slow and if she can make me last that long there is another 500 for her. Sure enough this hottie knew her job well and in a sensual way came and sat between my legs and slowly started massaging my balls, once hard it took her no time to take me all the way deep in her throat again. I made her keep switching between deep throat and licking balls till finally around 20-25 mins later I could no longer control and this time came when she had me deep in her throat. She did not swallow but kept it in and spit it in a towel and I made her clean me with her mouth.

Hands down the best and most unexpected session I ever had with a service provider. Just the memory of that hot Asian girl blowing me deep while I watch porn still gets me hard.

Member #4570
08-25-18, 04:37
Anyone want to meet up tomorrow or day after? Mainly looking to hit on and pick up civvies, so need a pick up buddy. But will get in on some pro action at night!

MonkeyPaw
08-25-18, 14:04
On a typical, tropical, out of high season night at around 9 pm, there will usually be IMHO and experience at least 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in each of my 3 favorite Cowboy Go Go's, 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in my 3 favorite Nana Go Go's, and 2 or 3 desirable, unattached girls in my 2 favorite Patpong Go Go's. That's conservatively at least 16 desirable, unattached Go Go girls available to me on any ordinary night on just the Go Go circuit. So, I honestly don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. There is no competition with other punters. It is only in your head. Other punters, as far as I am concerned, don't even exist.
100% agree, I love the chase more than anything. One time in Phuket I ended up shagging a girls from devils playground and had her pay my taxi home. Even though she wasn't a stunner I just love the accomplished feeling of turning the tables on a gogo girl.

P4P is fun, but I always want something others are not getting.
Honestly, if I wanted to "compete" I wouldn't pay for it and would have stayed in the US. For me that defeats the point of P4 P. I don't have any need to feel accomplished. There are other aspects of my life that satisfy that in full. P4 P for the majority of punters I know is about ease and fun, not competition.In my honest opinion "only" and from my own experience, to which I am not a Go Go bar expert to the least. I only have frequent and done the Go Go bar thing about 300 (days) or times a year for the past 3 years and only have dropped maybe a couple hundred of thousands of dollars (USD) in the process. This is a far cry less than most guys on here, so I'm sure there are guys that have more validity than me when it comes to Go Go bars. But to say that there is "no competition with other punters" at the Go Go bars is the same as saying any customer can walk into ANY Go Go bar, and can barfine to fuck ANY girl of his choosing, and that girl is always his first choice. Plus there is no rejection for him from ANY girls at the Go Go bars, because it's all about him and there is no competition from any other punters. Wow! I want to live in that perfect world to see how that works. That's amazing, even I've never experienced that. That must be God. I've done fairly well playing the Go Go bar scene, but not like that, so I must be only "like God. " Anyways, my father once told me a story. It's about an Angel that descended to Earth and took human form. Where he came from, he is a somebody and he wins. With the spirit of the Almighty at his back, this Angel will always win. But when living amongst the humans, he had to take it easy to try to understand. Many have a loser mentality. They can't ever relate to those who come from a world where he got everything, because as an Angel, he wanted nothing. That means to want, in itself, is a part of evil. That also meant since Earth was full of want, it was obviously that it was the Devil's domain. And those in this world with a loser mentality, will always make excuses, blame others, or ignore the obvious. Themselves. So that's why many cannot relate to another if they come from different worlds. But for one to say that P4P is about "ease, fun, not competition," then why is there always so much bickering about other punters, their ethnicity, the level of services provided, and what they paid for or how much? Every punter has the mentality and hope that P4P provider will supply him with services better than she has given the next guy. The only thing I've ever asked is to "share." Share your experiences, good or bad, and ways to find and identify the girls. I've shared in most of my reports and postings, so I would say I'm the least greedy when it comes to this stuff. I'm just lucky.

Smoothy
08-26-18, 03:10
any customer can walk into ANY Go Go bar, and can barfine to fuck ANY girl of his choosing, and that girl is always his first choice. Plus there is no rejection for him from ANY girls at the Go Go bars, because it's all about him and there is no competition from any other punters. I agree that some girls won't go with certain guys (like Indian, Arab, Black, extremely overweight, handicapped, etc.) Hell, those guys can't even get into certain gogos. But I'm just an average western guy and I've been in Asia about 20 years now and I have never had any gogo girl that I wanted to take to my hotel completely refuse to go with me. If they are busy with another guy on a particular night, I just consider that to be bad timing that night and that they will be available some other night. There's no need to try to steal her from the guy she met before I arrived. I feel it would be unethical to do so anyway. I've never had that happen to me either. For any girl I have ever bar fined, she has never ended up dumping me and going with some other guy that night rather than me. So where is the competition? I don't see it as far as gogo's.

Banana Boi
08-26-18, 06:52
I have never had any gogo girl that I wanted to take to my hotel completely refuse to go with me. I have seen this happen 3 times with fellow ISG members who I have been to a gogo bar with. All middle aged, all caucasian. I was there with FF when he was rejected with Lala at Sapphire last year. I have also witnessed 2 ISG members strike out with a gogo girl from LK Metro of all places. She is a part time gogo girl and is an actual Thai model. I have subsequently seen her being barfined so she is not a girl only trying to meet her weekly drink quota.

MP has mentioned some girls at Palace who will not barfine. One is #174 who is neither hot or cute but is appealing in her own way. The other is Fern at Palace who can not or is extremely difficult to barfine. Fern is appealing to most guys I take to Palace. I'm not a fan because I like fun girls.


If they are busy with another guy on a particular night, I just consider that to be bad timing that night and that they will be available some other night. There's no need to try to steal her from the guy she met before I arrived. I feel it would be unethical to do so anyway. Absolutely agree with you here. I think it's a douche move to steal a girl sitting with a guy already. I have some tricks to tempt her to come to me but it will be her decision to come to me. I won't buy her a lady drink so she sits with me while with another guy.

EihTooms
08-26-18, 07:15
But I'm just an average western guy and I've been in Asia about 20 years now and I have never had any gogo girl that I wanted to take to my hotel completely refuse to go with me. I am also an average western guy of 65 and been mongering in Asia off and on for several years a couple of decades ago, now living in Bangkok for the past 6 years. Not sure if this qualifies as "completely refusing to go with me", but I have certainly had many go-go girls, beer bar girls, massage shop girls, freelancers, etc. refuse to go with me ON MY TERMS. Talking mostly about my requiring either BBFS or BBBJ+CIM, otherwise there is virtually no reason for me to have a girl in my room (unless I just must DATY with a girl who says no to everything else I want or need). Of course, I am sure the ones who would not go with me on my terms would have jumped at the chance to go with me if I had agreed to their terms. But that was not going to happen. My choice.

If the topic of MY TERMS is not broached in the bar, and sometimes they are not, then, like you, I have never had a girl, go-go or otherwise, say no she won't go with me for any reason other than the ones you cited; already booked with another good customer and so on. But they are interested in doing so another time, no problem. Talking about real go-go girls working in a bar with the intention of barfining customers and not non-barfinable Coyote scammers. Although, I have no doubt for the right high amount of money and low amount of demands on them, any and all of those scammer girls would go with me and anyone else too.

Supmam
08-26-18, 08:01
I scored 40% on your what is your reject score. I'm not overweight. Haha.

I've never even bothered at any gogo. I've been to Bangkok twenty times and I've never even been to nep or cowboy. So I'm curious about what would be the point of me even going? Apart from the above score I read of bad service, coyotes, east asian only. To turn me off. I'm a realist and have been rejected in Amsterdam redlight, brothels in Australia, OT in Singapore and free lancers in Malaysia.

I would imagine there would be others on this board with the same score.


I agree that some girls won't go with certain guys (like Indian, Arab, Black, extremely overweight, handicapped, etc.) Hell, those guys can't even get into certain gogos. But I'm just an average western guy and I've been in Asia about 20 years now and I have never had any gogo girl that I wanted to take to my hotel completely refuse to go with me. If they are busy with another guy on a particular night, I just consider that to be bad timing that night and that they will be available some other night. There's no need to try to steal her from the guy she met before I arrived. I feel it would be unethical to do so anyway. I've never had that happen to me either. For any girl I have ever bar fined, she has never ended up dumping me and going with some other guy that night rather than me. So where is the competition? I don't see it as far as gogo's.

Breadman
08-26-18, 15:20
I am also an average western guy of 65 and been mongering in Asia off and on for several years a couple of decades ago, now living in Bangkok for the past 6 years. Not sure if this qualifies as "completely refusing to go with me", but I have certainly had many go-go girls, beer bar girls, massage shop girls, freelancers, etc. refuse to go with me ON MY TERMS. Talking mostly about my requiring either BBFS or BBBJ+CIM, otherwise there is virtually no reason for me to have a girl in my room (unless I just must DATY with a girl who says no to everything else I want or need). Of course, I am sure the ones who would not go with me on my terms would have jumped at the chance to go with me if I had agreed to their terms. But that was not going to happen. My choice.

If the topic of MY TERMS is not broached in the bar, and sometimes they are not, then, like you, I have never had a girl, go-go or otherwise, say no she won't go with me for any reason other than the ones you cited; already booked with another good customer and so on. But they are interested in doing so another time, no problem. Talking about real go-go girls working in a bar with the intention of barfining customers and not non-barfinable Coyote scammers. Although, I have no doubt for the right high amount of money and low amount of demands on them, any and all of those scammer girls would go with me and anyone else too.Asking the girl for BBFS before barfining limits the amount of girls willing to be barfined. Buddy used to have the mamasan do the necessary chat with the girl and then my buddy would tip the mamasan when the deal was ok'd. Personally I'd rather take the girl that I was hitting it off with and hope for the best. In the heat of the moment you get a better chance at them not saying no when you don't even reach for the condom.

EihTooms
08-26-18, 20:12
Asking the girl for BBFS before barfining limits the amount of girls willing to be barfined. Buddy used to have the mamasan do the necessary chat with the girl and then my buddy would tip the mamasan when the deal was ok'd. Personally I'd rather take the girl that I was hitting it off with and hope for the best. In the heat of the moment you get a better chance at them not saying no when you don't even reach for the condom.Yep. Most of the time I don't negotiate for BBFS beforehand for a similar reason. There might be no negotiation at all. Or I might only negotiate for BBBJ+CIM, not mention fucking at all, perhaps primarily to determine if she even knows what a Cum In Mouth finish means. Many don't know what it really means, claim to have never done one or never been asked for one. If the answer is Yes, I am good to go and then the mood and move in the room might still lead to BBFS, generally my preference of the two. But if not then my fallback position is at least the BBBJ-CIM she had agreed to.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing as a HJ fallback position in these matters. Or me masturbating onto her boobs, face, over the table lamp or whatever. I'd rather just abort the mission, move on and save my ejaculation for the next one around the corner or 30 minutes away from a Line message. I made this major move in life to cum into women, not to revert to HJs. Of course, there are times when the agreed upon CIM finish is nowhere near what was agreed upon. One never knows if the girl was lying about that until it is too late, the deed is done badly and cannot be undone and redone correctly.

Maybe only 3 times in all my mongering years have I ever asked a mamasan or papasan in a Thai P4P venue to find or clear BBFS with a girl. Once in a soapy and twice in go-go bars, all 20-25 years ago. None of those times went well. Their reaction was as shocked and dismissive as I imagined it would be. And I honestly doubt a Thai girl would be more likely to tell a mamasan, papasan or any third party that she is willing to go BBFS than she would privately to me.

Most of the times when a discussion of BBFS is broached beforehand is when it has been prompted by something the girl said in reference to condoms or an insistence that I tell her "What you want?", which can quite often lead to the girl agreeing to it beforehand.

And, of course, there are times when I'll bring it up beforehand because her saying Yes is the only reason I might choose her tonight over someone else and I honestly don't care all that much if she says No, whereupon that is the end of it.

There are so many others to say Yes, and most are very likely hotter and better at their job than the ones who say No.

Syzygies
08-27-18, 08:31
Yep. Most of the time I don't negotiate for BBFS beforehand for a similar reason. There might be no negotiation at all. Or I might only negotiate for BBBJ+CIM, not mention fucking at all, perhaps primarily to determine if she even knows what a Cum In Mouth finish means. Many don't know what it really means, claim to have never done one or never been asked for one. If the answer is Yes, I am good to go and then the mood and move in the room might still lead to BBFS, generally my preference of the two. But if not then my fallback position is at least the BBBJ-CIM she had agreed to.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing as a HJ fallback position in these matters. Or me masturbating onto her boobs, face, over the table lamp or whatever. I agree. I don't like negotiation, so often skip it completely. As I mainly do repeat girls, that is a big help to hardly ever having a negotiation. I have a profound lack of girl encounter reports, for the reason of hardly ever trying anything new (I suppose this could be referred to as semi-retired). I often had no negotiation even with new girls tried.

CIM is a forum abbreviation so no way a Thai girl should know that, and only experienced girls will know what a "cum" is. Average Thai girls do not do CIM, so quite normal for girl to have only done one accidentally when guy exploded without warning. "set nai bpark" is Thai for cum in mouth and that should be easy enough for them to understand. "set" means "to finish" and "Bpark" is mouth. Guys should not try to use the word "maa" meaning "come" since it does not mean "cum" in any way (I repeat this for guys that have missed this tip). Euphemisms do not translate directly well at all.

Indeed some girls are paranoid about copping a load in the mouth and therefore may insist on CBJ unless they trust you not to blow in the mouth. They are preconditioned to think of it as quite disgusting, whether that is really true or not. I never CIM with Thai girls unless they are permitting it, as I don't want a big issue. As I am well trusted, I don't get CBJs. Maybe had one CBJ in last year. CBJ is not very useful to me, although still better than a HJ which I never take. If want CIM it is easier to go to Kasalong or similar where it is standard I presume.

EihTooms
08-27-18, 11:34
I agree. I don't like negotiation, so often skip it completely. As I mainly do repeat girls, that is a big help to hardly ever having a negotiation. I have a profound lack of girl encounter reports, for the reason of hardly ever trying anything new (I suppose this could be referred to as semi-retired). I often had no negotiation even with new girls tried.

CIM is a forum abbreviation so no way a Thai girl should know that, and only experienced girls will know what a "cum" is. Average Thai girls do not do CIM, so quite normal for girl to have only done one accidentally when guy exploded without warning. "set nai bpark" is Thai for cum in mouth and that should be easy enough for them to understand. "set" means "to finish" and "Bpark" is mouth. Guys should not try to use the word "maa" meaning "come" since it does not mean "cum" in any way (I repeat this for guys that have missed this tip). Euphemisms do not translate directly well at all.

Indeed some girls are paranoid about copping a load in the mouth and therefore may insist on CBJ unless they trust you not to blow in the mouth. They are preconditioned to think of it as quite disgusting, whether that is really true or not. I never CIM with Thai girls unless they are permitting it, as I don't want a big issue. As I am well trusted, I don't get CBJs. Maybe had one CBJ in last year. CBJ is not very useful to me, although still better than a HJ which I never take. If want CIM it is easier to go to Kasalong or similar where it is standard I presume.Thanks for the reminder of how to convey the concept of "cum in mouth" in Thai; "set nai bpark". I am sure your spelling of bpark (mouth) is accurate for the sound of it but will point out to others that many of us have heard Thai girls say that word after we tell them something complementary about how beautiful they are; "bpark wan", meaning "sweet mouth". The bp combination is an uncommon way to start a word for most of us westerners and the r is very soft, almost not there. The "sweet mouth" term we might have heard already maybe sounds closer to "bok wan" or "bogk wan" when a native Thai speaker says it.

I have found the easiest Thai girls to get a genuine CIM from outside of the BJ Bars is go-go dancers, dating site girls and freelancers, pretty much in that order. I know the go-go dancer source flies in the face of what most would believe, but I can only speak from my personal experience on this. When I negotiate the way I have stated here a few times, my success rate in getting a fine blowjob with a genuine 100% CIM finish with go-go girls, good-looking young ones mind you, is quite high.

Next comes dating site girls, the more highly educated the better. Then freelancers, if carefully screened before taking. Again, this might fly in the face of what most would say here, but my worst success rate for getting a genuine CIM finish is with massage shop girls (yeah, even the ones clearly established for so-called down and dirty happy endings and not real massages) and beer bar girls.

I have a dinner and fuck date tonight with a non P4P dating site girl that has without doubt one of the most glorious feeling pussies I have ever experienced, loves receiving DATY beyond measure and I knew from her first slide down my shaft during oral foreplay that getting a CIM finish from this girl would have to be one of the most exquisite orgasms I have had in a long, long time.

Yet, she is adamant about no man ever finishing inside her mouth. This is actually quite rare in that I met her on a dating site, she is quite attractive, professional, financially secure, well-educated and in her mid-30's. This combination is almost always a sure predictor of superior understanding and administration of way above average oral skills leading to a CIM finish and, if she knows you really want it, swallowing the cum clean away, even when the girl is 10 years younger than her. This will be our second date together and if she really likes me as much as she claims over and over on her Line messages, I intend to make it known how she can prove it to me without doubt orally. LOL. Then again, there is that fantastic pussy!

MonkeyPaw
08-27-18, 15:16
MP has mentioned some girls at Palace who will not barfine. One is #174 who is neither hot or cute but is appealing in her own way. The other is Fern at Palace who can not or is extremely difficult to barfine. Fern is appealing to most guys I take to Palace. I'm not a fan because I like fun girls.Fern is very selective on her customers. I've been told by other girls that sometimes guys pay her just to go to Hollywood disco and nothing more. At least I got the opportunity to stick my dick in her and watch her squirm in all positions. Sex was nothing to write home about, but it was still nice to see her sexy natural body naked up close. She went with me long time, but I let her go after 3 hours. She has a cute tomboy. Ans the last time she sat with me, I offered her and het tom each 5,000 to fuck me and fuck each other as I watched. I wanted to bang her tom's pussy while Fern watched as well. I think you were sitting next to us. Fern text messaged her tom about my offer. Her tom was appalled at my suggestion. She showed me the text back. So it was a no go. I did a write up on Fern this past June.


Last night at Palace I barfined a model #401, named Fern. According to most of the girls there, Fern is one of the top girls if not the top girl in hustling drinks for the bar. The day before, she got 42 drinks from customers. We have seen each other for about 2 years now, but last night was the first time I approached her when I saw her standing alone. She had been on my list to do, but for some reason she and I never connected. Before last night I have already barfined about 10 other models from Palace. Apparently her scheme was just to go and let me barfine her so that it kept he status as one of the top girls there. Meaning it looked odd to the other girls working there that after 2 years, I never took her. I think it's an ego and competition thing amongst the girls at each club..

Syzygies
08-27-18, 17:40
Thanks for the reminder of how to convey the concept of "cum in mouth" in Thai; "set nai bpark". I am sure your spelling of bpark (mouth) is accurate for the sound of it but will point out to others that many of us have heard Thai girls say that word after we tell them something complementary about how beautiful they are; "bpark wan", meaning "sweet mouth". The bp combination is an uncommon way to start a word for most of us westerners and the r is very soft, almost not there. The "sweet mouth" term we might have heard already maybe sounds closer to "bok wan" or "bogk wan" when a native Thai speaker says it.
I would go Paak Waan, however the P sounds close to a B because not aspirated same as a Tagalog P in the Philippines or even English spoken by Filipinas.

Quite right! There is no R technically and in Thai an R sound never appears after a vowel (only before it). I should spell it Bpaak or Bpahk or Paak or Pahk (there is no correct way to spell Thai words in English and some are such rubbish). Long Ah sound with very open mouth, so AR is closest approximation in English but a silent R (as you point out). Think of Jimmy Haas the tennis player, works. Actually Thai vowels are much closer to German language vowels than to English vowels and English vowels vary so much depending on where the speaker comes from. So it would be much easier to explain Thai vowel sounds if we all came from Deutschland.

I struggled to perfect some Thai vowel sounds for years. The name Aey was always difficult for me. Often has rising tone but not always. Anyway it is like AIR with any R sound dropped and also like the AY in Hay but with any Y sound dropped. So maybe half way in between those two. Tricky to not make it sound like an English AY or AIR, since that is what we are used to. When learning Thai, a girl tried so many times for me to get this one right. I though I imitated her sound perfectly, but she would say no and say it again, obviously slightly different to my attempt. Learning Thai pronunciation is the critical stage. Once have got that understood well, it is all plain sailing since Thai is otherwise so easy, with almost zero grammatical complexity. After getting the sounds understood, it is all just learning vocab, and practice to deliver the correct one of 5 tones. As Farangs, we will probably stuff up tones almost forever unless gifted or started from a young age, on certain words or occasions. Low tone is the one I fail on most often by putting stress or emphasis on a word that should not have it, and mid tone sounds easy but can also be stuffed up easy, as is a little higher than our natural speaking tone, unless you come from India. LOL. Just generalising that many Indians seems to have a higher tone when speaking English. This could well make Thai easy for them.

American drawl is quite inconsistent with Thai, so Americans speaking Thai can sound quite amusing if the drawl is still there. It means all or most of their short vowels come out too long. German guys have a big advantage as the vowels are quite similar for the most part, in both short and long forms. Small number of odd vowels though. Probably similar advantage for other Europeans where I am less knowledgeable about the particular Languages.

Fanotran
08-27-18, 17:56
... seeing her eyes glued to my laptop watching a blowjob while sitting between my legs slowly stroking my cock, sexiest thing ever. She looked at the screen one final time and goes as deep as I have ever had any girl go. Even I was not expecting that. She was actually doing a better than the girl on screen. So good I had to pull her away so I don't cum too fast. This went on for the next 10 minutes, I made her keep her glasses on and finally could not control and blew a load straight in her face. Like a submissive GF said goes "what are you doing", but too late I had already glazed her face.

She cleans both of us with a towel and goes back to the washroom to clean herself. She comes back and I was lying on bed scrolling through random porn. She slowly started putting her dress back as I took out 1500 bhatt. Even though I laterally blew my load 10 minutes ago, seeing this short busty girl with glasses put on her tight dress while there is porn running in the background made me hard again, so I immediately pulled the money away and said stay for another shot and she said no its already 3 and I need to get home. I take out another 1000, put it on the bed and like magic she suddenly stopped and started removing her dress. I tell her this time suck me slowly for the next 30 minutes, no hands just deep and slow and if she can make me last that long there is another 500 for her..I've been reading through the posts in prep for my first trip to BKK, and Arated's post is about the hottest thing I've ever read on this site. I can't stand that I'm going to have to wait until November, but that's the way it is. Good on ya Arated! If you're there when I am, I'd be proud to buy you a drink or three. Thanks for the stimulating report, and thanks to all the other posters and to Jackson for all the priceless info!

Rob Jones
08-27-18, 22:12
I've been reading through the posts in prep for my first trip to BKK, and Arated's post is about the hottest thing I've ever read on this site. I can't stand that I'm going to have to wait until November, but that's the way it is. Good on ya Arated! If you're there when I am, I'd be proud to buy you a drink or three. Thanks for the stimulating report, and thanks to all the other posters and to Jackson for all the priceless info!I remember the anticipation I had for my first trip to Thailand and if you think the wait before you go is excruciating wait until you are back in your homeland! It is like being addicted to a drug and your supply has been cut! Enjoy your trip.

Syzygies
08-28-18, 11:13
I've been reading through the posts in prep for my first trip to BKK, and Arated's post is about the hottest thing I've ever read on this site. I can't stand that I'm going to have to wait until November, but that's the way it is. Good on ya Arated! If you're there when I am, I'd be proud to buy you a drink or three. Thanks for the stimulating report, and thanks to all the other posters and to Jackson for all the priceless info!Just to dampen you down a little, you don't want to believe everything written is 100% true. It reads a bit imaginative and artistic to me, but vaguely feasible. I would not be at all surprised if was embellished to make it better.

If the guy really had to use porn, can the girl really have been so hot? I don't understand why degradation turns guys on but I suppose it is a dominance power trip thing, fuelled by porn conditioning.

I suggest you read on and collect useful Facts. Make a list of all the things you really must try at least once. Many might not live up to expectation. Remember as Goat reports, there are plenty of very weak performing girls around, and plenty of very average lookers, you have to find the extra special ones. That is your challenge.

Syzygies
08-28-18, 11:37
Hell, those guys can't even get into certain gogos. But I'm just an average western guy and I've been in Asia about 20 years now and I have never had any gogo girl that I wanted to take to my hotel completely refuse to go with me. If they are busy with another guy on a particular night, I just consider that to be bad timing that night and that they will be available some other night. There's no need to try to steal her from the guy she met before I arrived. I feel it would be unethical to do so anyway. I've never had that happen to me either. For any girl I have ever bar fined, she has never ended up dumping me and going with some other guy that night rather than me. So where is the competition? I don't see it as far as gogo's.Seems very unrealistic. You must have had girls make excuses on occasion. "I have a customer already", "I am waiting for customer", "It's my period", "I am going to a birthday party in 1 hour from now", " I don't like Farang dick", "I have heard about you from other girls"You killed me last time"pussy is Kaput", "I don't usually go with customers at all", "you can barfine me but no sex okay I would rather go to a disco", "I don't go with Farangs", "I am a good girl I don't do sex", etc.

As ET reports, these days there are lots of Coyote girls not available for fucking at all, supposedly. Of course if you never tried to get any girl and let the girls select you directly or by extra raunchy behaviour, then I could understand never failing to get the girl. Some girls request BF quite quickly, but they are not usually the ones I am trying to get.

I thought everyone gets knockbacks on occasions for one reason or another. I would rather get a knockback than a completely crap experience. The latter is more common, unfortunately. The Thermae is not gogo girls but there I get a lot of refusals. They have certain typ of customer in mind, preferably an easy one. Some girls in Thermae say yes but with Farang surcharge, and no kissing no DATY etc. Fuck that.

One day I was mystified when I spoke to a hot girl on stage in Bacarra, stunning natural body, asking if she was available or had a customer. She could have refused me, instead chose not to utter any word whatsoever. I assume she understood my Thai very well. I saw she later charged off to some young guy that she clearly knew already. He was a Farang. Perhaps she only hoped he would take her, and deal was not yet done.

One girl was very hot at Long Gun Noi and refused me many times saying we were friends. Eventually one day she agreed to go with me and then performed really lack lustre crap on the bed. I could not believe a girl so hot looking could be that poor and disinterested. However she probably liked much younger Farangs like her own age, while most bargirls claim to prefer older guys "Jai dee".

Sometimes you get lucky and get extra eager instead of refusal. I wanted to BF the hottest girl in Crazy House at the time, Nat with big tits. She was very keen to go and in fact leave immediately as she wanted to go to a birthday party in Pattaya that evening and have some money too. She still performed really excellent in a 1 hour ST, before being picked up for the drive to Pattaya. Supposedly her partner was a Tom but she responded well to dick too, quite enthusiastic and liked DATY too. Was in heaven for 1 hour.

DesiBoobs
08-28-18, 11:46
Guys, Member from LK forum here.

I'm visiting Bangkok next month and planing to stay at "Majestic Grande Hotel*". I'm planning to wait alone for two days until my wife also make it there. So looking to try out all that's possible. Top being Soapy massage, GO GO and freelance girls. Any hints and guides would be mostly welcome. Any best places for Soapy, and what are the good GO GO bars.

I'm also open to venture some action together, have had the pleasure of meeting some local residents for action in few countries I've visited before.

Thanks buddies.

Turgid
08-28-18, 16:31
...................If the guy really had to use porn, can the girl really have been so hot? I don't understand why degradation turns guys on but I suppose it is a dominance power trip thing, fuelled by porn conditioning......Porn does not turn you on?

Member #4698
08-28-18, 21:29
Porn does not turn you on?I can't speak for others, but as far as I am concerned, some porn turns me on and some porn turns me off. My favorite porn genre is the Japanese Lesbian Seduction with 2 or 3 sexy actresses. Bing Lesbian Nampa pickup and you might find some interesting videos along these lines. As with my preferences in real life, I don't like sillycone porn girls or girls with big asses and I don't like nasty stuff.

There is also, IMO, a time and place for porn. I like it and watch it when I am alone and horny. I find it pointless, even counterproductive when I am with a girl or having sex with a girl. Some bordellos (in Macau especially) have a porn channel playing in the room when you get there. Maybe it's just me, but I always turn it off. The girl I am with provides all the stimulus I need or else what I am paying her for? Ha Ha. Besides, I am usually with more attractive sauna girls than the actresses they got up on the Chinese porn channel. So, if I wouldn't pick the porn actress if she were in the lineup, why would I want to watch her get nailed by some dude while I am getting it on with a girl that really like and find attractive?

Turgid
08-29-18, 00:36
I can't speak for others, but as far as I am concerned, some porn turns me on and some porn turns me off. My favorite porn genre is the Japanese Lesbian Seduction with 2 or 3 sexy actresses. Bing Lesbian Nampa pickup and you might find some interesting videos along these lines. As with my preferences in real life, I don't like sillycone porn girls or girls with big asses and I don't like nasty stuff.

There is also, IMO, a time and place for porn. I like it and watch it when I am alone and horny. I find it pointless, even counterproductive when I am with a girl or having sex with a girl. Some bordellos (in Macau especially) have a porn channel playing in the room when you get there. Maybe it's just me, but I always turn it off. The girl I am with provides all the stimulus I need or else what I am paying her for? Ha Ha. Besides, I am usually with more attractive sauna girls than the actresses they got up on the Chinese porn channel. So, if I wouldn't pick the porn actress if she were in the lineup, why would I want to watch her get nailed by some dude while I am getting it on with a girl that really like and find attractive?If there is such a thing as a victim of porn then that would be me. My first exposure to porn was as a teenager in the late 60's using my dad's reel to reel projector and a movie borrowed from a friend. I still remember it; it was Swedish and started with a hot blonde masturbating before being joined by 2 blokes. Throughout the years I have had preferences for various genres but am more or less settled on lesbian of all types. Like yourself I don't particularly care for porn while sessioning. However, it is a must at home / hotel before visiting a brothel / FKK / Casa / Club / SW / escort, etc. It gets me in the right frame of mind and gets the vital areas primed up for the pending action. I actually believe that porn has played a major role in my pursuit of this hobby and suspect that had I never been exposed to porn I might have been a contented happily married one woman kind of guy.

Member #4698
08-29-18, 02:19
If there is such a thing as a victim of porn then that would be me.
Well I disagree. Porn hasn't harmed me. Neither has whoring. On the contrary, both have made my life more enjoyable and I believe both are natural outlets for healthy men to partake in. My only regret, as far as all this goes, is that My Father or older Brother did take me to see a prostitute when I was 14 or 15. I was in real need back then and it would have helped me out tremendously in my relations with other girls if I had had the experience at that age.

Steve 9696
08-29-18, 02:35
Well I disagree. Porn hasn't harmed me. Neither has whoring. On the contrary, both have made my life more enjoyable and I believe both are natural outlets for healthy men to partake in. My only regret, as far as all this goes, is that My Father or older Brother did take me to see a prostitute when I was 14 or 15. I was in real need back then and it would have helped me out tremendously in my relations with other girls if I had had the experience at that age.FellatioJapan.com — oh my god. I am not a huge porn fan but Japanese girls know how to suck it like no other. Every time I see a girl I want to say "uh could you watch this before we start?

Nyezhov
08-29-18, 04:14
FellatioJapan.com oh my god. I am not a huge porn fan but Japanese girls know how to suck it like no other. Every time I see a girl I want to say "uh could you watch this before we start?I hate the way those Japanese girls squeal.

RacShack
08-29-18, 09:09
Is it true the famous BJ bar has closed, lo. Lito s.

Syzygies
08-29-18, 09:42
I can't speak for others, but as far as I am concerned, some porn turns me on and some porn turns me off. My favorite porn genre is the Japanese Lesbian Seduction with 2 or 3 sexy actresses. Bing Lesbian Nampa pickup and you might find some interesting videos along these lines. As with my preferences in real life, I don't like sillycone porn girls or girls with big asses and I don't like nasty stuff.

There is also, IMO, a time and place for porn. I like it and watch it when I am alone and horny. I find it pointless, even counterproductive when I am with a girl or having sex with a girl. Some bordellos (in Macau especially) have a porn channel playing in the room when you get there. Maybe it's just me, but I always turn it off. The girl I am with provides all the stimulus I need or else what I am paying her for? Ha Ha. Besides, I am usually with more attractive sauna girls than the actresses they got up on the Chinese porn channel. So, if I wouldn't pick the porn actress if she were in the lineup, why would I want to watch her get nailed by some dude while I am getting it on with a girl that really like and find attractive?Well I am in complete agreement (as usual), although I have not tried Nampa as yet. My issue with Japanese porn is when you can see the dick is going into pussy but they stupidly pixel it out to see it not so clear. Hard to understand. For sure I want to see the very best Japanese female pornstars with pussy in sharp focus (with or without any dick). Today watched some porn nice natural tits and beautiful pussy, but shut it down when got a hint Mrs would give me a nice one before daughter gets home. Her pussy is still tight, tits full, and no baby damage to be noticed. Still hot at nearly 39, so I don't need porn at that time and she needs it, certainly not. LOL She is extremely sensitive, so cums far quicker than me.

For me, due to my lack of dick sensitivity, it is very important to resist wanking, so I get a better experience out of the real thing. Porn and wanking seems to me to be for when rather deprived. One should not need to wank in Thailand. LOL You could waste too much time in your life addicted to porn.

Syzygies
08-29-18, 09:46
Porn does not turn you on?Tongue kissing a hot real girl turns me on very fast. Porn is a slow turn-on for me, and I like only more beautiful style of porn, not degradation, nor ugly stuff, and certainly seeing dicks does nothing for me, so fast forward BJ scenes. Just my taste. I think a real, enthusiastic girl with all the touch sensations coming in, is superior. Of course I like looking at beautiful girls, and refuse to fuck ugly ones.

Member #4698
08-29-18, 13:32
My only regret, as far as all this goes, is that My Father or older Brother did take me to see a prostitute when I was 14 or 15. I was in real need back then and it would have helped me out tremendously in my relations with other girls if I had had the experience at that age.I meant to post my only regret, "is that My Father or older Brother did NOT take me to see a prostitute when I was 14 or 15. " I wish they had. 555.

Syzygies, on Japanese porn censorship: I read somewhere about the reason why some Japanese porn contains censorship and some does not. Unfortunately, I forgot what that reason was, but I do know there is a logical and legal explanation.

I also like Ukrainian girls (lesbians). For some reason the Ukraine has a lot of very pretty girls with just our body spec. Sadly, I believe the golden age to visit Kiev is long gone. I hear the scene there was really remarkable shortly after the collapse of the Soviet empire.

Along the same line of thought, I am patiently waiting for the fall of the Maduro/Chavez regime in Venezuela. It is too early and too dangerous to visit Venezuela now. I have a close Venezuelan American friend with family and friends still down there. He warns me not to go and tells me all about the present conditions. Suffice it to say it's no picnic down there at the present time. Police State! Shortages on everything! But pretty girls.

Nyezhov
08-29-18, 14:40
I also like Ukrainian girls (lesbians). For some reason the Ukraine has a lot of very pretty girls with just our body spec. Sadly, I believe the golden age to visit Kiev is long gone. I hear the scene there was really remarkable shortly after the collapse of the Soviet empire.

I was in Moscow after the wall came down. Unbelievable. The place to go was the Hungry Duck!

MichaelSamuel
08-30-18, 04:40
Day 3 continued from Massage Forum.

For the evening entertainment I was hunting at Nana given my easy access location. I started at Bangkok Bunnies as there was a tattooed girl I spotted in April that I hadn't got the opportunity to explore. Unfortunately, didn't find her and I was generally unimpressed with the talent. I find the girls to be a bit pushier than I like here as well and so moved on. I did notice what I thought were some better looking talent on the smaller stage on the far side on the way out. One thing that really makes a better bar for me is one in which I can see all the talent sitting in one location, bars that I have to change seats or walk around in loops to see the talent just don't do it for me.

I headed up to Billboard and settled in a good seat on the benches where I could spy both stages. Lineup was good and I worked on finding the entertainment for the night. Overall I found the selection to be decent on both, and narrowed down my selection to a terrific body #91 mostly because she was actually dancing some on stage. I was also in the mood for a girl with some ink which she had plenty of as well. If she had a better face she would be a 8 but definitely discounted to a 7. Had a drink or 2 and she was amicable so went for the barfine, 700ST 1000 LT at billboard now and I haven't seen any variance in the last 2 years to that. 3 k ST which I am also finding it harder to get girls off this at billboard in last 2 years, but she agreed to 2. 5 and 500 if I was happy. Performance was slightly above average for a gogo girl, she was nice and vocal like I like and view was great in multiple positions. I was never much of a DATY guy, but in the past few years began to enjoy this more and I think really seen better performance from the girls with this as a primer and she was no exception. I can't recall if the BJ was any good which probably means no or very short, but then wasn't what I wanted her for anyway as I rolled her around in different positions for a solid 25 minutes of fucking. She fits into my maybe repeat category, but not my "I absolutely want to see you again" set. Curious to see how a second visit would go before putting her on the shelf or throwing her out.

A couple pics from her public line feed, sorry cropped her face for her privacy. I know with her ink that's probably useless, but none the less.

Ed Setra
08-30-18, 05:41
Is it true the famous BJ bar has closed, lo. Lito s.Nope. It was open yesterday as I walked past from Soi 8 thru to Soi 6.

Syzygies
08-31-18, 06:56
I also like Ukrainian girls (lesbians). For some reason the Ukraine has a lot of very pretty girls with just our body spec. Sadly, I believe the golden age to visit Kiev is long gone. I hear the scene there was really remarkable shortly after the collapse of the Soviet empire.
I have not been there, and only got to do one or two Ukraine girls in Europe (Stuttgart many years back) since they aren't so common. Certainly was a real good experience. One "young" one had somewhat saggy tits, but was easy to forget that given her levels of enthusiasm. Repeated a few times. Never had a bad one (given so few), also never had any below standard fucks from Hungary, Czech, Slovakia, Croatia either. It causes a certain positive bias to certain countries. Romanian are generally good but a few duds. Bulgarian not so reliable. Least reliable in Europe for girls is Germany in my experience. Many lack enthusiasm. Latin girls are much more reliable. So would be nice to try some South American destinations.

So far only found real bi-sexual girls in Thailand that were good. Bow ex Suzie Wong had a Tom GF at times, but now has a guy and new baby. She definitely liked both dick and pussy, so was a great selection for 3 somes. She would even hint which girl she had the hots for, often one with good tits.

Nat at CH had a gorgeous body (10 points) with big tits and also seemed to be bi-sexual (enthusiastic fuck). Her Tom GF even worked as a waitress at one time. Probably only 18. That was a few years back. I think she went to work in Coyote dancing club in north of Bangkok. I really should have investigated further with some detective work. She was extremely hot and one of best ever at Crazy House. Alas that level of talent does not seem to come to CH any more. I have not BFed there for close to a year now. Last one would have been No. 4 Jane. Still see one of them privately on occasion, so avoid the BF and drinks cost. She hardly goes to work any more.

GolfPhotos
08-31-18, 11:30
Just wanted to check with the experienced guys here if one can bar fine girls for ST / LT from Hooters. I have spotted a few nice girls at Hooters, BKK and would like to take them out.

Syzygies
08-31-18, 13:03
I meant to post my only regret, "is that My Father or older Brother did NOT take me to see a prostitute when I was 14 or 15. " I wish they had. 555.
Yes I agree. We go to school and get trained in English, Arithmetic, and lots of other really useless stuff. Nothing much about sex except beware horrid diseases. I recall when I first started to hear dirty jokes in the Boy scouts at a young age, it did not quite understand that sex was supposed to be enjoyable. Why was a condom needed? LOL It dawned on me, a fuck might not be to make a baby. Ha ha.

We never got taught how to choose a compatible mate, and parents did not teach that either, hence I selected some seriously incompatible girls. Actually married the first GF. Dumb idiot. Sexually she was much worse than average and in the end she had desire but once a month. Beware any girl that never masturbated in her life. She is probably not horny enough. LOL Actually hookers in my home country were only good at most 10% of the time so eventually I migrated to Asian girls who were a better bet by far.

Even with early Asian GFs made some bad selections. Too crazy or not horny enough. Two extremes. LOL.

So yes, I believe we all need really good sex education from a young age, and really good education in the difficulty of selecting suited long term partners as well, to avoid some really serious errors. Was not till I was 35, a Thai girl gave me DATY lessons, to move me from very average to expert league, so it would not be a waste of time for her. She was a hooker not my GF. A lot of experience followed of course and that helped since we learn not all girls like it the same. However I meet few girls who don't like it at all, unless they are avoiding stimulation, although my ex wife did not like it (before I became more skilled at it). All my regular girls can cum from DATY, only one with real difficulty (she makes it only sometimes so clearly likes something different). Girls that don't like to enjoy themselves would not become my regulars. Some girls cum from other activities and positions, but DATY is the most consistent for success, much like a BBBJ is the most likely winner for a guy. I have learned girls like to use cowgirl position to get off too since they get to control the movement and the way clit gets rubbed during her grinding action.

Recently at a sex club in Europe (FKK), several times saw an older guy and young guy that really looked so much alike I could swear were father and son. Old and young brother is vaguely possible but less likely perhaps. I did not ask though. That is how it should be, right? LOL Maybe mum was kept out of the loop.

As for Bangkok I have done real sisters (maybe 3 separate sets of sisters), but never concurrently, and don't see myself ever getting to do mother and daughter. That just seems too unlikely. I currently take Pat and used to do her sister Knot before she retired. I don't refer to "Thai" style sisters that are merely relatives or friends. I refer to girls with same parents. My sisters in Europe were only half sisters, so don't really count, or maybe one pair were real sisters not too sure if there is not a very strong resemblance. It is not really a fantasy for me, just that if sisters are similar enough, one is really good often means the other will also be really good. It is better to choose more contrasting girls for a 3some, in my view, with different best aspects. If too similar, seems less point to it.

Fucking a pussy while Digits deep in another pussy does work for me. BJ with concurrent balls licking also works well. Two additional concurrent tongues in my mouth is also good. Not sure if three extra tongues would be possible. Balls paly while fucking is nice. A good threesome really has some extra sensations. Must find girls that like working together and molesting each other.

D Cups
08-31-18, 19:01
Just wanted to check with the experienced guys here if one can bar fine girls for ST / LT from Hooters. I have spotted a few nice girls at Hooters, BKK and would like to take them out.Please find out and report back. Thanks.

MonkeyPaw
08-31-18, 20:07
Just wanted to check with the experienced guys here if one can bar fine girls for ST / LT from Hooters. I have spotted a few nice girls at Hooters, BKK and would like to take them out.I fucked a girl who worked Hooters Pattaya before (100% true story). It cost me quite a bit. As for Nana Hooters, just ask the pappasan or manager on duty. They will tell you which girls can get barfined and which cannot. The tall Russian bartender is a good recommendation. There are short time rooms near. Just make sure you don't eat the wings before you try to take them out. Your breath will stink.

Woorace
09-01-18, 02:07
I've been to BKK several time in the past, but it has been 5 years sine zI was here. All of the previous trips had been mostly to Pattaya, with a couple of days in BKK.

Long trip, with a couple of delays, was made easier by flying Business Class on the new Delta Airbus 350's. The Delta One Suite is very nice. Checked into the Marriott Marquis Queens' Park, which also a new Hotel for me. Will be here 3 nights, then 5 nights at the JW Marriott.

Since I hadn't been here for awhile, I reached out to another member on this Board. We met for cocktails, and I decided to make my 1st ever trip to Soi Cowboy. Have to say, I was kind of impressed with the number of quality ladies that we ran into outside of all of the Go-Go's. We started, and finished at Doll House. While the 1st floor is usually not nude, it was when we first waled in around 8:30. My intention was to go to a couple of places and check them out, but there were about 3 spinners there, who impressed me. The downside of Doll House, is that their Bar Fine is 1,000 plus 2 lady drinks, so the damage up front is a little high. Since My friend speaks pretty good Thai, I had him talk to Pang for me. I think her # is either 53 or 57. She was very cute, 21, and a Coyote. A little high at 3,000, but I guess that is the going rate at Doll House now, as the waitress kept saying that. Rather than try and negotiate price, Pang agreed to be pretty open minded. On that she delivered, and she did a great job of focusing on my pleasure. She would have agreed to a 2nd shot, but at my tender age of 68, that wasn't going to happen. She provided all services that I wanted, but lacked the passion that I find is usually the case with most Go_go girls. I would barfine again for ST, but wouldn't want to do LT with her. BTW, when I got back to the Marriott Queen's Park, I went upstairs to the Rooftop Bar, and there were some great looking ladies up there. They were all with guys, but I mean some incredible looking ladies. Great place to bring your lady, and it has live entertainment.

Syzygies
09-01-18, 10:29
r on this Board. We met for cocktails, and I decided to make my 1st ever trip to Soi Cowboy. Have to say, I was kind of impressed with the number of quality ladies that we ran into outside of all of the Go-Go's. We started, and finished at Doll House. While the 1st floor is usually not nude, it was when we first waled in around 8:30. My intention was to go to a couple of places and check them out, but there were about 3 spinners there, who impressed me. The downside of Doll House, is that their Bar Fine is 1,000 plus 2 lady drinks, so the damage up front is a little high.You are better to say upstairs or downstairs since "1st floor" mean different things in different countries.

It is good to point out to ET that Coyotes in Dollhouse are barfinable and do fuck (for most part). In my recent visit about 1 week ago, talent was not that good when I arrived (Friday night). Maybe 2 girls acceptable downstairs. Previous visits saw a much better standard so possible I arrived after best girls were already gone. I could see they had some naked girls upstairs mostly hags, so did not get me too interested. 8. 30 Pm to 9. 30 pm is probably best. One very pretty small Coyote girl I know. Oor (Oar / Aor) I think is the name. She was excellent first time I BFed her and 2nd time was poor. I learned she is scared of pussy damage. Must have had a problem after first time with me, even I am a gentle fucker. Some pussies are just too small I guess. Can't be compatible with all girls.

Sedition
09-01-18, 22:18
I fucked a girl who worked Hooters Pattaya before (100% true story). It cost me quite a bit. As for Nana Hooters, just ask the pappasan or manager on duty. They will tell you which girls can get barfined and which cannot. The tall Russian bartender is a good recommendation. There are short time rooms near. Just make sure you don't eat the wings before you try to take them out. Your breath will stink.Are you serious on the nana hooters being somewhere I can barfine girls and talking to papasan on duty being a real tactic? I'the feel really awkward bringing it up since hooters is supposed to be a real restaurant outside of Thailand but on other hand I'm right around the corner from that hooters in terms of my hotel, always wanted to fuck a hooters girl, and some of the Thai girls in there can be really cute.

If someone can confirm that you can barfine and bring girls back / whether this is a YMMv situation and whether it has to be after their shift ends or if it's just like normal barfine would love to hear more: the.

Nyezhov
09-02-18, 18:49
Has anyone spied a midget for rent in BKK? By that I mean a cute well proportioned girl less than say 4'10?

Also, is there a pornstar agency in BKK?

Its for a batchelor surprise for a guy who has never been out of the bible belt.

Gladiator69
09-03-18, 02:35
Is it true the famous BJ bar has closed, lo. Lito s.I guess you mean Dr. BJ on Soi 7/1? It's been renamed as Wood Bar for a couple of years. But same service basically.

Smoothy
09-03-18, 04:25
What's up with the Dynasty Grande checking these girl's ID cards at the desk and demanding that they be at least 20 years old? I can understand 18, but 20? Has a new law passed?

I only took one girl so far and she was 24, so it wasn't an issue, but I thought this odd.

HorseTrader
09-03-18, 05:38
Is it true the famous BJ bar has closed, lo. Lito s.


I guess you mean Dr. BJ on Soi 7/1? It's been renamed as Wood Bar for a couple of years. But same service basically.I think he means LowLitas on the alley off Soi 8. It was open a month ago when my friend was in town.

Sorry about the spelling, the correct spelling isn't allowed.

EihTooms
09-03-18, 08:45
You are better to say upstairs or downstairs since "1st floor" mean different things in different countries.

It is good to point out to ET that Coyotes in Dollhouse are barfinable and do fuck (for most part). In my recent visit about 1 week ago, talent was not that good when I arrived (Friday night). Maybe 2 girls acceptable downstairs. Previous visits saw a much better standard so possible I arrived after best girls were already gone. I could see they had some naked girls upstairs mostly hags, so did not get me too interested. 8. 30 Pm to 9. 30 pm is probably best. One very pretty small Coyote girl I know. Oor (Oar / Aor) I think is the name. She was excellent first time I BFed her and 2nd time was poor. I learned she is scared of pussy damage. Must have had a problem after first time with me, even I am a gentle fucker. Some pussies are just too small I guess. Can't be compatible with all girls.Thanks for the heads up on that, Syzy. I haven't barfined from Soi Cowboy in quite a while myself. Don't know, something rather depressing about so much scam vibe from the girls up and down the soi. They either look sullen and grim or putting on that phony smile when in full scam mode. And, like you, the last time I went to Dollhouse I wasn't inspired by the line up and did not feel it worth the effort to even screen for quality service potential. Then again, I have been kept very busy and happy with the dating site contacts vs the way many go-go and beer bar options are going in these modern times.

EihTooms
09-03-18, 08:53
Are you serious on the nana hooters being somewhere I can barfine girls and talking to papasan on duty being a real tactic? I'the feel really awkward bringing it up since hooters is supposed to be a real restaurant outside of Thailand but on other hand I'm right around the corner from that hooters in terms of my hotel, always wanted to fuck a hooters girl, and some of the Thai girls in there can be really cute.

If someone can confirm that you can barfine and bring girls back / whether this is a YMMv situation and whether it has to be after their shift ends or if it's just like normal barfine would love to hear more: the.Just my observations and mild experience with Nana Hooters from being in that area quite a bit on an almost daily basis; I have known fellows to get a Nana Hooters girl's Facebook info but have never heard that they ever hooked up later. I would say there is no harm in asking whoever is supposed to be a "papasan" in the place if the girls are barfine-able, although I think there is actually a sign posted on the premises (or maybe it was in the Soi 15 Hooters) on the topic to the effect of "Don't Even Ask". So there is that.

On the point about taking a Nana Hooters girl to a nearby Short Time hotel should the unexpected occur and some purported "papasan" okays it with one of the them, I can tell you in all the times I have been in and around Nana Hooters I have never and I mean never seen one of those girls emerge from the back of the restaurant in plain street clothes and walk out of the place with a customer headed for a nearby Short Time hotel. I have also never had any other local expat say he'd ever seen such a thing first hand either. Not saying it has never happened. It's Thailand and anything is possible. Just saying I have never seen it, never been told first hand by anyone else that they have seen it.

And I assure you a lot of the expats I am referring to are always on the lookout for such a sign of barfine-able life with regard to the Bangkok Hooters girls. I would imagine it is entirely probable that some of those Hooters girls have been fucked by guys they met in the place at some point, money involved or not. But the barfine-able, change into street clothes, head to a nearby Short Time hotel and then return to work part of it seems a stretch to me.

Syzygies
09-03-18, 09:46
Then again, I have been kept very busy and happy with the dating site contacts vs the way many go-go and beer bar options are going in these modern times.Great, whatever you find most reliable. No point trying to take a girl when talent is not there. My own Bargirl selection has dropped right off. Can't remember last time tried a new girl. Okay It comes to me now. Very pretty model type from Billboard. Her performance was very so so however she warmed to me and assured me we she would be more enthusiastic next time. LOL I forget her name and number now so I probably would not pick her again. I had previously got more lucky and had an excellent lovey dovey girl from Billboard, but she found a Farang BF real quick and left. Maybe only one or two new girls tried from a bar in last year.

I find it easier to take well known reliable girls. I can't really do "dating" since have a GF already. Recently cleaned a lot of crap out of my phone in case she should see it. So I like encounters without too much time wasted. I don't like to chat to girls much on the smart phone.

The one advantage of bars for me is getting to look at the girl as long as possible before choosing and seeing the body preferably not well covered at all. I don't know if can do similar by smart phone. I guess you can. However I like to see the way a girl moves, her facial expressions convey her attitudes, etc. I suppose many dating site girls are really hookers. I saw a pic of a hot black girl on one site and tried to make contact, however she was not really willing to put in any great effort unless she was sure I was not wasting her time, and was not willing to send adequate pics to decide if I really liked her face and body. I asked several basic questions (not related to BB), but she decided she could not bother to answer them. Naturally I lost interest very fast. At least with bargirls I can call them for a drink, and ask some basic questions (I don't mean negotiation), even check if tits are real or not usually. If they don't want to answer, I move on in the same way. However I do agree that standard of available bargirls at an affordable price has declined.

I like having several possible girls to pick from, all very nice looking, and then take time to try to choose the best one, when needing a new girl.

As for Hooters girls. I think a guy will look stupid asking if he can barfine some girl there (I may be wrong). Suppose he can BF for some high price, I am sure that sex is not on the menu. On the other hand, privately contacting the girls, one could get lucky, or offer a ridiculous amount of money. I am sure they are all officially not available. There are plenty of Coyote girls around that can be barfined to take them to dinner or a disco, but not for sex. Not very useful to me. I don't need to have the image of the gorgeous girl on my arm. I would rather be not seen so much.

I do have a place where there is a smart girl good to just chat to (no sex). Fortunately that does not cost me more than her drink. No need to take her away, unless I need company for a restaurant. This one such girl, knew I took young bargirls for sex, and was surprised when seeing a pic of my girlfriend, that my GF is hot. She was then even more puzzled, about why I frequent the bargirls. I had to explain was purely lack of regular enough sex (maybe slight distortion) . She consults me about English Language and I consult her about Thai. Good exchange. She even consulted me about how to get better sex from her BF. LOL Supposedly my advice was quite helpful. He needed to be Viagra dosed so that he could make sex for long enough, instead of "wham bam thankyou mam", when she had hardly got started. He probably also needed DATY training, although she can probably get off in cowgirl if his dick stays up long enough. He was vastly younger than me Farang that she calls her buddy with benefits, but he was sexually selfish, not really caring if the girl's needs were met (initially the benefits were one-sided). Amazing some guys get a regular freebie and still can't give the girl a good time, and I have to give advice to help her fix it. LOL.

Franciscass
09-03-18, 09:47
And I assure you a lot of the expats I am referring to are always on the lookout for such a sign of barfine-able life with regard to the Bangkok Hooters girls. I would imagine it is entirely probable that some of those Hooters girls have been fucked by guys they met in the place at some point, money involved or not. But the barfine-able, change into street clothes, head to a nearby Short Time hotel and then return to work part of it seems a stretch to me.A lady friend of mine, not a working girl has a friend working at Hooters Nana since it opened and told me suggesting that the manager there will point out girls that fuck for money is pure fantasy. That is not to say that girls there have not met customers where a mutual attraction has led to a relationship of sorts but no different to could happen at a Starbucks. As far as I can tell if there are girls there that moonlight or double up as hookers it's a well-kept secret. But who knows!

Syzygies
09-03-18, 10:06
What's up with the Dynasty Grande checking these girl's ID cards at the desk and demanding that they be at least 20 years old? I can understand 18, but 20? Has a new law passed?

I only took one girl so far and she was 24, so it wasn't an issue, but I thought this odd.I had same problem at Hotel Solo (Soi 2) a few years back and reported that. My companion was Aor aged 19. I had not even checked her age beforehand.

Quite a few sex establishments are not hiring girls under 20, can't say I understand it. It violates their right to work and make money IMHO.

The rectification for me, was that the Hotel allowed me to check her in as a regular Hotel guest (I had booked for two). She was staying the night anyway. So I can have a room for two including a 19 YO girl, but I cannot have a "visitor" aged 19. Go figure! Sounded stupid to me. Fortunately I don't take street walker girls back to my Hotel. So my girls can be trusted.

Clearly these Hotels are to be avoided. I like Hotels where there check nothing, just ignore me and my girl passing by. Don't need places so pompous. I certainly don't want hassles if I have 2 or 3 girl visitors at the same time, or even separately same day. I had these situations recently. Next week I am also likely to have multiple visitors same day, so I prefer no checking, no rules. One is Laos, not even Thai, and state of her passport is not known. Have not checked her age (she tells me older but who knows). I went through at Sakura Sky Hotel without a check (perhaps fortunate).

In my experience, the behaviour at any Hotel is likely to be inconsistent. Depends on which member of staff you happen to meet.

Always good to have a ST Hotel in mind as a backup in case of running into difficulties at your regular Hotel, and girl is not trusted enough to be "Checked in" normally. ST Hotels never check anything about the girl, not nationality, Gender, age, nothing. Most customers at the ST Hotel I normally use, are Asian and are bringing a LB. LOL.

EihTooms
09-03-18, 12:21
What's up with the Dynasty Grande checking these girl's ID cards at the desk and demanding that they be at least 20 years old? I can understand 18, but 20? Has a new law passed?

I only took one girl so far and she was 24, so it wasn't an issue, but I thought this odd.The only association with age 20 that comes to mind is that is the legal age to drink alcohol in Thailand. And the catch is the proprietor or seller of the booze is the one who gets hit with legal charges. So maybe there is some issue with a hotel room having a mini bar from which the girl might "buy" a beer or another alcoholic beverage at some point. Room service booze purchases might come into play as well.

Where that theory falls apart though is what about anyone under the age of 20 staying in that same hotel room, a child with his parents for instance. Are they prevented from going to the room too? No.

But maybe an unspoken understanding between the cops/judges and hotel proprietors in Bangkok that the most likely scenario is an apparent P4P customer and his 18 or 19 year old date is when almost all the mini bar raiding is likely to happen takes precedence and there is no way for the hotel "seller" of the booze to claim ignorance or surprise about that. The fear level about it might vary from hotel to hotel or depend on how often a particular hotel has had a close call on the issue.

Syzygies
09-03-18, 12:33
The only association with age 20 that comes to mind is that is the legal age to drink alcohol in Thailand. I recall seeing a pub in England with a sign saying open to patrons 21 years and over. WTF?

Mogwai
09-03-18, 13:31
The only association with age 20 that comes to mind is that is the legal age to drink alcohol in Thailand. And the catch is the proprietor or seller of the booze is the one who gets hit with legal charges. So maybe there is some issue with a hotel room having a mini bar from which the girl might "buy" a beer or another alcoholic beverage at some point. Room service booze purchases might come into play as well.


I had same problem at Hotel Solo (Soi 2) a few years back and reported that. My companion was Aor aged 19. I had not even checked her age beforehand.
Quite a few sex establishments are not hiring girls under 20, can't say I understand it. It violates their right to work and make money IMHO.

The rectification for me, was that the Hotel allowed me to check her in as a regular Hotel guest (I had booked for two). She was staying the night anyway. So I can have a room for two including a 19 YO girl, but I cannot have a "visitor" aged 19. Go figure! Sounded stupid to me. EihTooms, I don't think it has anything to do with the legal age to drink alcohol because in that case the hotel would not have allowed Syzygies to check her in as a regular hotel guest. And there have been more guys who reported about this work around.

In my country (Holland) the rooms in the RLDs are often not leased to girls under the age of 21, even though the legal age for prostitution is 18. The companies that rent out the rooms are doing this because girls under 21 are more often trafficked or forced to work (by pimps) than girls above that age. So maybe it has something to do with that in Thailand as well when hotels set an age limit of 20.

MonkeyPaw
09-03-18, 14:40
Are you serious on the nana hooters being somewhere I can barfine girls and talking to papasan on duty being a real tactic? I'the feel really awkward bringing it up since hooters is supposed to be a real restaurant outside of Thailand but on other hand I'm right around the corner from that hooters in terms of my hotel, always wanted to fuck a hooters girl, and some of the Thai girls in there can be really cute.

If someone can confirm that you can barfine and bring girls back / whether this is a YMMv situation and whether it has to be after their shift ends or if it's just like normal barfine would love to hear more: the.It's probably YMMV. I do what I am able to do because I am me. No need to ask others, everybody knows their limits. Just avoid those with negativity and loser's mentality. And just because others haven't done so, doesn't mean it's impossible. Like I said before, we aren't all on the same playing field when it comes to P4P, nor when it comes to life. Some are blessed with charm, good looks, persuasion, money, game, empathy, and all sorts of different powers. I'm lucky to have all that. I paid 8,000 baht for the Hooters girl and it was from after shift until next day after lunch. This was done 2 times consecutively. On another note, I see that Nana Plaza has added a retractile roof in case it rains. It's pouring down right now, but so dry inside. They will take all of Soi Cowboy's clients.

MonkeyPaw
09-03-18, 19:35
My first day in Bangkok, I was browsing WeChat and ran across Analisa Nana Massage. I am staying on Sukhumvit 7/1 so it was a very near my hotel, close to Loleetas and the other BJ bar. I was intrigued with their offer for fetish play at just 2000 baht. I like kink, so decided to pay them a visit. When I arrived, I was shown the line up available. None of the girls were my type. I was about to leave when mamasan offered me a girl from another location. Her name was Coy. I was shown photos of her and I agreed to meet her. I was offered some water and waited for about 20 minutes. When she arrived, she was sexy as fuck! Coy was about 5'3" with a petite body and nice big tits. Mamasan told me she is a special request girl and has to be asked for because she rotates location. I paid the 2000 plus and extra 1000 to take her to my room nearby. If the deed was done there, it would have only cost 2000 baht. In my room she stripped down to some kind of tight leather wear with ropes tied all over her body, similar to the girls at Angel Witch. She gave a stellar PSE performance that ended in CIM and COF. She was a three holes type of girl and gave up that asshole. It was sexy to watch her actually ride the hell out my dick with her ass, while playing with her pussy. Although she worked for Analisa Nana, there was no massage involved. Just sucking and fucking her puss and ass for an hour or so. After we were done, I asked if she worked everyday and she told me she is normally available after 5 pm, but has to be requested because she is busy. Below are some snap shots of their WeChat profile with girls. I managed to snap a pic of that wonderful ass of hers that was able to take a long pounding without complaint. Nice PSE experience for only 3,000 total.

EihTooms
09-04-18, 00:33
I recall seeing a pub in England with a sign saying open to patrons 21 years and over. WTF?The moment of entering your hotel with a young lady might not be the best time to engage in a prolonged discussion with the clerk about why he won't allow you to take a 19 year old into your room, but have you ever asked the clerk why? That might solve the mystery I suppose. I live in an apartment building without a front desk so there is no confrontation or conversation with anyone about anything when I take a girl to my room.

A couple of years ago I tried to get a Short Time room on the premises of Nana Plaza with a go-go dancer I'd been with several times already. It was raining hard and we didn't want to deal with that going back to my apartment. The clerk looked at her I.D., smiled, handed it back to her and said something to her in Thai that I did not understand. She timidly told me we could not get a room here. So we fought through the heavy rain to get a taxi and went to my apartment as before. I did not ask the clerk why and when I asked the girl why later she just smiled sheepishly and shrugged it off. I didn't press for the answer.

Could have been about her age, her residency, whatever. Some Nana Plaza go-gos had recently been busted for hiring girls with those particular issues and it is possible the clerk in that Nana Plaza Short Time hotel was being extra cautious about it.

TrueBlue666
09-04-18, 05:23
My first day in Bangkok, I was browsing WeChat and ran across Analisa Nana Massage. I am staying on Sukhumvit 7/1 so it was a very near my hotel, close to Loleetas and the other BJ bar. I was intrigued with their offer for fetish play at just 2000 baht. I like kink, so decided to pay them a visit. When I arrived, I was shown the line up available. None of the girls were my type. I was about to leave when mamasan offered me a girl from another location. Her name was Coy. I was shown photos of her and I agreed to meet her. I was offered some water and waited for about 20 minutes. When she arrived, she was sexy as fuck! Coy was about 5'3" with a petite body and nice big tits. Mamasan told me she is a special request girl and has to be asked for because she rotates location. I paid the 2000 plus and extra 1000 to take her to my room nearby. If the deed was done there, it would have only cost 2000 baht. In my room she stripped down to some kind of tight leather wear with ropes tied all over her body, similar to the girls at Angel Witch. She gave a stellar PSE performance that ended in CIM and COF. She was a three holes type of girl and gave up that asshole. It was sexy to watch her actually ride the hell out my dick with her ass, while playing with her pussy. Although she worked for Analisa Nana, there was no massage involved. Just sucking and fucking her puss and ass for an hour or so. After we were done, I asked if she worked everyday and she told me she is normally available after 5 pm, but has to be requested because she is busy. Below are some snap shots of their WeChat profile with girls. I managed to snap a pic of that wonderful ass of hers that was able to take a long pounding without complaint. Nice PSE experience for only 3,000 total.How long ago was this? Did you mean your first night ever in Bangkok? LOL The gal from Analisa on Line had never heard of Coy, even using the picture. Same answer when I called in and spoke to someone else. I get that she moved around but you'd figure they'd at least be aware of her.

On an unrelated note, I tried the wechat "people nearby" app last night and nabbed a foxy mid 20's Korean gal for 4 k. I recommend it if you haven't tried. Easy enough to set something up once you weed through all the LB's. Don't forget to video chat prior to meeting though.

Mogwai
09-04-18, 05:48
Like I said before, we aren't all on the same playing field when it comes to P4P, nor when it comes to life. Some are blessed with charm, good looks, persuasion, money, game, empathy, and all sorts of different powers. I'm lucky to have all that. I paid 8,000 baht for the Hooters girl SNIPI'm only modest. Damn!
But if you have all of that then why didn't you get her for free?

Kerrstar
09-04-18, 06:54
On the point about taking a Nana Hooters girl to a nearby Short Time hotel should the unexpected occur and some purported "papasan" okays it with one of the them, I can tell you in all the times I have been in and around Nana Hooters I have never and I mean never seen one of those girls emerge from the back of the restaurant in plain street clothes and walk out of the place with a customer headed for a nearby Short Time hotel. I have also never had any other local expat say he'd ever seen such a thing first hand either. Not saying it has never happened. It's Thailand and anything is possible. Just saying I have never seen it, never been told first hand by anyone else that they have seen it. I've been there a few times and I've also never seen any girls leave with a guy, and I've been there at closing time a few times. Have been recently because I haven't been to BKK for a while. I would think that Hooters is a pretty good gig for a girl who doesn't want to P4 P, probably a second job or someting, and I doubt that they would risk getting fired for a few thousand baht with a guy they don't know. Maybe a real regular there could get one as his GF, not sure though.

WindAngel
09-04-18, 09:46
I'm only modest. Damn!
But if you have all of that then why didn't you get her for free?Because 8000 is nothing to him and that makes it the same as free?

EihTooms
09-04-18, 10:24
I'm only modest. Damn!
But if you have all of that then why didn't you get her for free?From the bits and pieces I've read, maybe 8,000 baht feels as close to "free" as the fellow has ever gotten it. After all, he did appear to be proud of getting it at that amount. Might have cost me 8,500 baht since I am loaded up with only most of those special powers, not all of them. I've been running a bit short on empathy lately.

MonkeyPaw
09-04-18, 11:57
So Monday night it was pouring down rain. Nana and Thermae didn't have anything that stood out. After spending about 3000 baht in drinks, I headed back to my room to play on Thai Friendly. Met a cute girl named May on TF, we then exchanged WeChat and got down to trading photos and talking business. I offered her 2500 for 2 hours of her time to suck and fuck. She agreed and met me at room around 11 pm, but ended up staying until 3 am. She was GFE all the way and allowed for BBBJ, DFK, and CIM. We started by showering together where she sucked me off until I blew my wad in her mouth. She ate every drop like it was lobster bisque. May is very receptive to foreplay and DATY. She can cum easily this way and likes it for long periods. She allowed me multiple pops in our session. Standing doggy over the bed is her favorite position. One of the most tightest pussies I've fucked. So she may not be a pro. Keep in mind it was raining hard, so she wasn't in a rush, but YMMV with her services and prices. Talking with her afterwards, she is farang friendly and always looking for more customers. Now, it seems that even though I don't have a high number of posts on this board, but pound for pound, they have a lot of impact. So here's another one!

GerryGa
09-04-18, 12:52
It's probably YMMV. I do what I am able to do because I am me. No need to ask others, everybody knows their limits. Just avoid those with negativity and loser's mentality. And just because others haven't done so, doesn't mean it's impossible. Like I said before, we aren't all on the same playing field when it comes to P4P, nor when it comes to life. Some are blessed with charm, good looks, persuasion, money, game, empathy, and all sorts of different powers. I'm lucky to have all that. I paid 8,000 baht for the Hooters girl and it was from after shift until next day after lunch. This was done 2 times consecutively. On another note, I see that Nana Plaza has added a retractile roof in case it rains. It's pouring down right now, but so dry inside. They will take all of Soi Cowboy's clients.Not least of which is a vivid imagination combined with a Walter Mitty affliction.

Bubba Boy
09-04-18, 12:53
I've been there a few times and I've also never seen any girls leave with a guy, and I've been there at closing time a few times. Have been recently because I haven't been to BKK for a while. I would think that Hooters is a pretty good gig for a girl who doesn't want to P4 P, probably a second job or someting, and I doubt that they would risk getting fired for a few thousand baht with a guy they don't know. Maybe a real regular there could get one as his GF, not sure though.I eat at Hooters on every trip, probably a dozen times over the last few years and have never seen any mongering behaviour there too and would think if it did happen it would be rare. Having said this the girls are smoking hot, very friendly and in a 3rd world country anything is possible.

A discrete THB 8000 offer after a bit of chit chat and chemistry could be a number that works occasionally, probably not every time but occasionally.

Chris71
09-04-18, 16:14
I eat at Hooters on every trip, probably a dozen times over the last few years and have never seen any mongering behaviour there too and would think if it did happen it would be rare. Having said this the girls are smoking hot, very friendly and in a 3rd world country anything is possible.

A discrete THB 8000 offer after a bit of chit chat and chemistry could be a number that works occasionally, probably not every time but occasionally.I can confirm that as well. I'm in BKK at least three or four times a year and then I'm there almost every day for some beer and a ceasa salad. I've been talking to the girls very often, but there was never more.

Applesauce
09-04-18, 17:38
Went to Crazy House today in the rain at 9:30 pm. Was asked to buy a drink at the door. Weird but okay. Was deciding on the drink when the doorman asked to see some ID. I didn't carry my passport on me so he said I couldn't enter. Is this a new thing? I'm Asian and could be mistaken for Thai so I doubt that it's racialy motivsted.

EihTooms
09-04-18, 17:40
I eat at Hooters on every trip, probably a dozen times over the last few years and have never seen any mongering behaviour there too and would think if it did happen it would be rare. Having said this the girls are smoking hot, very friendly and in a 3rd world country anything is possible.

A discrete THB 8000 offer after a bit of chit chat and chemistry could be a number that works occasionally, probably not every time but occasionally.Yes, getting a contact number and dating a Nana Hooters girl after hours, even extending it to an all-nighter, and handing her an 8,000 baht "gift" afterwards is a very different story from the one about working with some supposed papasan on the premises, paying a barfine to take her out of Hooters for an hour in the middle of her shift and parading her before every Nana area punter and business owner right to the entrance of a nearby Short Time hotel. LOL.

That said, Nana Hooters girls, just like servers in several regular restaurants in the area, might have a P4P past. So it is not out of the question for them to possibly reactivate it every now and then.

One Nana Hooters girl who worked there for several months a year or so ago used to work at a late night cart bar near Sukhumvit Soi 7 a few years ago when there tons of them on the scene. Then she popped up on the Smooci escort booking site for a while.

I took her twice when she was working at the late night cart bar for a 500 baht barfine and 1,000 baht to her for ST my way. I don't recall having to apply much charm, good looks, powers of persuasion or empathy to have a hassle-free Real GFE with her for that price.

Smoothy
09-04-18, 19:10
The moment of entering your hotel with a young lady might not be the best time to engage in a prolonged discussion with the clerk about why he won't allow you to take a 19 year old into your room, but have you ever asked the clerk why? That might solve the mystery I suppose.I asked the clerk and she said it's a new law to stop [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908). No girl under the age of 20 is now allowed in the Dynasty Grande. The hotel is owned by a former policeman and he is sticking strictly to this rule now.

I tested this theory the other night and took a 19 year old from Crazy House to the hotel. They did not allow her in. As such, I am done with Dynasty Grande. I am certain that not all hotels are doing this. Under 18 I can understand, but under 20 is absurd.

EihTooms
09-05-18, 03:40
I asked the clerk and she said it's a new law to stop "Code Word". No girl under the age of 20 is now allowed in the Dynasty Grande. The hotel is owned by a former policeman and he is sticking strictly to this rule now.

I tested this theory the other night and took a 19 year old from Crazy House to the hotel. They did not allow her in. As such, I am done with Dynasty Grande. I am certain that not all hotels are doing this. Under 18 I can understand, but under 20 is absurd.OMG, thanks for the warning. I will definitely put Dynasty Grande Bangkok on my "hotels to avoid" list for any friends visiting Thailand. But, just to clarify a little, are you saying the clerk said there is an actual new law on Thailand's books with regard to hotel visitors that the hotel's former policeman owner intends to follow to the letter or that it is merely a new rule conjured up in the owner's mind that he has decided to impose for his particular hotel?

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this new law and don't recall reading about it on the usual Bangkok news update sites like Stickboy Bangkok and so on. If it is a new Thai law, every hotel is apt to follow it to the letter at a moment's notice if anyone on the staff suspects the authorities are paying attention.

That puts those of us who live here in non-hotel residences in a special position of ease and privilege when it comes to bringing 18 and 19 year old girls back to our rooms! I'll be sure to incorporate that important bit of info into my pre-barfine and pre-date interviews and chit-chat. Sorry, guys.

Syzygies
09-05-18, 04:10
Went to Crazy House today in the rain at 9:30 pm. Was asked to buy a drink at the door. Weird but okay. Was deciding on the drink when the doorman asked to see some ID. I didn't carry my passport on me so he said I couldn't enter. Is this a new thing? I'm Asian and could be mistaken for Thai so I doubt that it's racialy motivsted.Could be normal if you look Thai or similar, or like a waste of space, or look like someone just trying to get out of the rain. If American ID. , no problem. They try to estimate guest behaviour based on looks. If you look Japanese or Korean you would never have a problem.

Syzygies
09-05-18, 04:17
On another note, I see that Nana Plaza has added a retractile roof in case it rains. It's pouring down right now, but so dry inside. They will take all of Soi Cowboy's clients.Why? Many of the Cowboy clients becoming pissed off with it, are already pissed off with Nana as well, which also has too many LBs and too many Coyotes. What is coming so good in Nana? Billboard has some nice girls for me, but I don't like how dark it is in there. I don't see many other bars are so exciting. Most bars that open in Nana, close very soon, lack of customers. Mercury was going so bad it changed to a LB bar. Once was an okay Bar but long time ago. There is no full nudity in Nana so they can't really attract guys who want to see everything.

Will guys who liked Cowboy before, suddenly like Nana much better? Can't see why.

Syzygies
09-05-18, 04:32
A discrete THB 8000 offer after a bit of chit chat and chemistry could be a number that works occasionally, probably not every time but occasionally.Every girl is a potential hooker, it is just a question of price. 10 million Baht, then for sure. No need to look down on girls who are forced to do it for less. No need to expect every girl to have the same price either. It is up to her, how much will persuade her and that could vary a lot. Then of course the guy can decide he wants some cheaper hag instead. Hard to imagine a hooter's girl going with a guy for 1 K. She must be so dumb if she doesn't know she is worth a lot more. The smart girl can get 8 K (performance might be similar).

I have a girl with no legal status to work in Thailand. She finds it very difficult to get work, despite having an extremely cute face, yet has mother's medical bills to pay, and can't speak English. She can't really refuse to do me because she needs the money. Yet she still seems to make it into a good time and rides me cowgirl style very enthusiastically. Might as well enjoy your work. LOL I think she might be forced to take a lot of Thai customers via the internet in the future, because of her lack of English skills, if she finds out how to do that. Don't know if she considered this option yet. Used to work in an MP but kicked out with the crackdown. She is pretty enough to work hooters, if had English, Thai ID card, and bigger tits. LOL Some girls just got dealt a bad hand. Could go back to Savanakeht (Laos) and try to make a pittance there with only 6th grade schooling.

MichaelSamuel
09-05-18, 05:03
Evening 2 in Bangkok headed back to Nana. While I am in between trips reading ISG or twitter I will save pics or make notes on specific girls to check out. I really just use it like a scavenger hunt. Over time I have been in almost every bar in the place so this just gives me an interesting way to start my evening shopping. Proceeded to angelwitch to hunt for #32 from some posts a while back. I am found of the outfits at angelwitch as I have been a sucker for thigh highs especially with garter belts and the music is usually decent. #32 was probably the best of the bunch I saw, but there were a few others as well, however nothing really moved me and I often don't choose from the first bar I stop at as I figure I can always come back and you never know what's around the corner.

My next stop was butterflys to seek out 442 from some report a while back. There had been some renovations since last year and the setup is definitely better now with the high ceiling brought down and the 2 story stage gone. The seating configuration is still strange though with a lack of good seats with good angles to find a companion. I don't recall the lineup as particularly good or bad, just average, but I was able to find 442. She is a cutie and as someone noted quite young as well at 19/20 with that perfect tight little body, but basically no breasts though, A cup at best. Very little English so even with my bit of thai it was a bit difficult to communicate. I have to admit that I don't recall why I even decided to proceed at this point, some of it was definitely the fascination of her being half my age and fresh off the farm. Had to negotiate with mamasan due to language barrier. I asked for long time as part of my normal practice from experience and from a discussion on the forum a long while back. If the girl is unwilling to go long time it's a red flag for me, it's not an absolute abort but it does give me pause. In my experience girls willing to go LT are less likely to be rushing to something or someone else and are focused on the moment and earning as much as possible which hopeful translates to giving me her best service. I don't always end up taking them LT but I like to know the option is there if we go ST and hit it off and that she isn't preplanning something else before we have even hit the room. I couldn't get the mamason below 5 k and I should have just taken her ST but went for it instead. I can't recall if the barfine was tiered for ST / LT like billboard or not, but was definitely not less than 700. She changed up and looked quite cute and more comfortable in street clothes and back to the landmark we went.

She is definitely still shy and honestly took a lot of playing around and patience to get her to relax to even get her clothes off and get showered, if you spoke thai it would definitely be easier to develop rapport as I was struggling. After getting her robe off worked on LFK to some more tongue and then down to some DATY which definitely helped warm her up and she responded nicely and the juices started flowing. She was so fresh off the farm you could taste the rice. I figured her BJ wouldn't be very good and she didn't make any motion for it so suited up and went straight for it. She was very tight and I am slightly above average (so the girls say, what do I know) so had to take it incredibly slow. I enjoy this sometimes as it really extends the session and lets me really enjoy the girl's body and study her reactions in a different way. Probably worked it slowly and building in mish for a good 25 minutes. Moved her into some cowgirl but it wasn't that great and she seemed tired so switched to doggie spoon for another 10 or so minutes. At this point she had been so tight and we had been going at it long enough the condom had gotten too stretched and needed changed and then back to doggie spoon, but she had started to get dry and I reached for the lube but she decided she wanted to try it her way with a HJ which I told her wouldn't work so she gets in there with a pretty decent BJ. I warned her it would take a while but she seemed to want to give her snatch a break and worked it until she got me there. Surprisingly she didn't pull off at the end and took the initial load in the mouth without making a fuss and spit it right away and kept jerking somewhat like she was expecting more, haha.

In the morning she was up early to go to temple, which I said was fine, but I would only give her 3 k for ST and taxi money which she was cool with.

So in recap honestly unless you are looking for a project and a challenge I can't recommend her unless the age thing really does it for you. Doing 1 girl like this on a 2 week trip was entertaining, but any more than that and is a pain in the ass. I have kept up some messages with her on line and am going to take another shot at it in November just to see how a 2nd time goes and out of curiosity to see how another 3 months on and off the pole affects her performance. I will report back.

MonkeyPaw
09-05-18, 06:06
I'm only modest. Damn!
But if you have all of that then why didn't you get her for free?When I was very young, I watched as Michael Jordan stole the ball and had an open lane to the goal, he could of easily dribbled the basketball for a lay up. Instead he chose to dunk it with a leap from the free throw line. It was risky and could have been embarrassing if he had failed. But he did not. Those who admired the feat wonder "how?" Those that were not in tune to NBA basketball only asked "why" when there was an easier way.

So why on that day did I choose to walk 15 minutes to Hooters when I could have paid for a taxi?

Why did I order a Caesar salad with grilled salmon when Hooters is famous for their buffalo chicken wings?

Why did I tip an extra 20% when Hooters already added 10% gratuity to my final bill?

And lastly, why did I pay 8,000 baht, when it supposedly could have been for free?

Because I can. If it's better for me than I do it. And until a person can do something, they will never understand why others do it. Instead they should be asking "how" if they want to improve themselves. That's why there are winners and losers in life.

MonkeyPaw
09-05-18, 06:21
How long ago was this? Did you mean your first night ever in Bangkok? LOL The gal from Analisa on Line had never heard of Coy, even using the picture. Same answer when I called in and spoke to someone else. I get that she moved around but you'd figure they'd at least be aware of her.

On an unrelated note, I tried the wechat "people nearby" app last night and nabbed a foxy mid 20's Korean gal for 4 k. I recommend it if you haven't tried. Easy enough to set something up once you weed through all the LB's. Don't forget to video chat prior to meeting though.So you reached out to them and LINED them, anonymously, about (please read my report again) "a special girl" that was offered to me when I went "in person" to the shop and "paid extra" for. Are you serious? If a recipe is given, the recipe should be followed. No wonder many fail where I have succeeded. Did it ever occurred to you that this girl mighty be choosy or picky on her customers and requires screening from management that involves a person actually walking in and not done over the phone? To me she was a knock out. Kind of short, but the body and face was banging. I would expect her to be working discreetly and made only available to those that she has given management to what she wants in a customer. Better off going in and asking. They have like 3 locations, I think. So many girls to choose from.

P.S. Kakao is the most popular app used by Koreans, not WeChat. Be wary of post ops disguised as foreign workers. But if they are hot and have a pussy, the less you know, the better off.

MonkeyPaw
09-05-18, 07:27
On my last night in Bangkok, which was Sunday, I decided to see for myself what the commotion was about surrounding #32 at Angel Witch. It was around 9:30 pm when I rolled in. This was the first time, I have been there in 3 and 1/2 years. After 2 rounds of line up changes, I still didn't see a #32. There were some girls who didn't have badges, but they were not attractive to me. You had mentioned she had a stunner type face, but to be honest, none of the girls I saw there were (IMHO) were worthy of #1 girl at Nana. So #32 may always be mystery and "your secret" to keep...
I headed up one more floor to Butterflies. Within 30 seconds of entry, I saw her. All the girls dancing wore the soccer outfits because of the World Cup Series, but the one that stood out to me had a cute Japanese look to her, #442. I asked the waitress to call #442 down. She even made the gesture with her fingers 4-4-2, when I repeated the number. The girl was dancing right in front of me. Waitress walked around the bar and then came back 2 minutes later. She then told me #442 is not working tonight. She holiday! I looked at the waitress, pointed at the girl, and said she is right in front of us! Waitress went to the stage, stared at her badge and then only gave me a stupid look. When #442 came down she seemed surprised I called her. Her name was Music.
Evening 2 in Bangkok headed back to Nana. While I am in between trips reading ISG or twitter I will save pics or make notes on specific girls to check out. I really just use it like a scavenger hunt. Over time I have been in almost every bar in the place so this just gives me an interesting way to start my evening shopping. Proceeded to angelwitch to hunt for #32 from some posts a while back. I am found of the outfits at angelwitch as I have been a sucker for thigh highs especially with garter belts and the music is usually decent. #32 was probably the best of the bunch I saw, but there were a few others as well, however nothing really moved me and I often don't choose from the first bar I stop at as I figure I can always come back and you never know what's around the corner...Nice thorough report with good identifiers. Glad my previous reports helped you hunt in BKK. I knew I had a few fans out there on this board that know how to use the information I gave them. And about #442 at Butterflies, nice little firm ass, right?

MonkeyPaw
09-05-18, 08:41
Why? Many of the Cowboy clients becoming pissed off with it, are already pissed off with Nana as well, which also has too many LBs and too many Coyotes. What is coming so good in Nana? Billboard has some nice girls for me, but I don't like how dark it is in there. I don't see many other bars are so exciting. Most bars that open in Nana, close very soon, lack of customers. Mercury was going so bad it changed to a LB bar. Once was an okay Bar but long time ago. There is no full nudity in Nana so they can't really attract guys who want to see everything.

Will guys who liked Cowboy before, suddenly like Nana much better? Can't see why.Nana has totally renovated their entertainment complex. It has more security, more bars, food every where, and is indoors, sorta. The roof allows for the party to go on even when it's raining. Soi Cowboy doesn't. Even in low season, Nana has more girls now. Last night at Angel Witch, there were at least 30 girls by 8:30 pm. In Rainbow 2, which traditionally caters to Asians only, there were 4 line up changes and about 50-60 girls. Rainbow 2 (in the corner first floor), now has coyotes dancers who are more readily available to farangs and other non-Asian customers. There were at least 30 of them working last night. Their barfine is 1000 baht. I've already taken #501, a brand new 22 year old cute coyote dancer. Her name is Sony. Service from her was better than most girls put out at Rainbow 2. She offered BBBJ until CIM and DFK (before the CIM). Her English is good so I expect her to be farang friendly. I think Rainbow 2 is going away from Asian preferred to trying to change it's image to be more like Rainbows 1, 3, and 5.

Last night, I ended grabbing a girl named Praew, #862 from Billboard. It was nearing 10 pm and she was the cutest one there. She was taller for a Thai girl with a cute face, slim body, long legs, great ass, but small tits. Still overall, she was the best one at Billboard and it was pouring down rain outside. I stole her from a Japanese guy who was with friends, and had bought her a drink before me. He was cheap and only told the waitress, he would wait until she comes off the stage. I saw what he did and bought her the 2 drinks minimum to come off the stage immediately. She smiled, bounced off the spinning carousel and jumped on my lap. The Japanese guy and his buddies just gave me dirty looks because they didn't have a clue about how the drinks work at Billboard. Praew told me she had seen me many times in Pattaya, but always afraid to say "Hi" because I was always with a pretty girl. She previously worked Palace and Glass House. Ironically, I've never seen her until this night. After she down her first drink, a tequila rose shot, I asked her without hesitation. Can you barfine? She said "yes, what we do?" I said, "fuck. " She grinned and asked why I chose her. I told her honestly this. "You are very narak (cute). Looking at you and your style, you like girls, probably have a tomboy. So all you care about is money. I have money mak mak. I don't like girls who like to play games or get jealous. I want to fuck you, pay you, tip you for good service. And then tomorrow, night I want to fuck her. " Then I pointed to another girl who was shaking her ass on stage. She just smiled and asked how long. We agreed on 4000 baht for 2 hours. I also did her a favor by paying the long time barfine of 1000 instead of 700, so she did not have to return back to work because of the rain. I then asked her if she wanted to finish her drink with the Japanese guy and his friends. She said not really. So I told the waitress to bring over the shot he bought for her to my table and put it on my bill. Praew stood up, walked over and apologized to him, and went off to the dressing room to change her clothes. In case anybody thinks I do any type of racial profiling at the Go Go bars, point proven.

Back to Praew. She is a hustler 110%. You can tell by how she treated the Japanese guy who only bought her 1 drink. Anybody who wants to play with her or take her out needs be very careful. If you have no hustle or no game, she will eat you alive and you will get disappointed at her level of service. I had to play back extra hard with her more than most girls in the past. I would compare her game level to that of Fern at Palace. Meaning she spent most of her time sitting with me, seeming uninterested, and texting on her phone. Even after we agreed on sex and money. She didn't talk much or asked questions like she even cared one bit. Anyways, Monkeypaw still won in the bedroom, but had to overwork a bit. The things I had to do and the things I had to tell her got me a better experience, but YMMV. Back in the room, she was completely shaved and enjoyed DATY for 30 minutes until she came twice. Then she became more receptive to a BBBJ that lasted only 5 minutes but had good technique. I'm telling you now, you won't get the BBBJ or even a BJ, unless you give her DATY and make her cum in order to get her turned on. We went through many positions and even went back to more DATY for the next hour or so. She remained wet from cumming before. Her best position to fuck in was doggy, which split open them cheeks, to reveal an asshole that opened up easily. This is when I finally shot my load. I pulled off the condom and so much cum squirted on her bare ass and dripped in her asshole down to her pussy. She got mad that I shot my load on her and tries to wipe some on me. I am fast and I was able to dodge her rude behavior. On anther note, it looks as if she had some history with ass fucking, the way her hole opened up during sex. I did shove a thumb in there while doing her doggy, but didn't go further. I'm still shell shocked from the Thermae girl that shitted on my dick awhile back. Anyways, our session was better than expected considering her cold attitude before. She even gave me DFK throughout us fucking. Then again, I did tell her in the beginning that all I wanted was to use that body of hers and nothing much more. Strangely, after we were done, she asked if I wanted to come to her birthday part after midnight on the 11th of this month. I was like, "not really, I'll be in Pattaya fucking other girls." She made an ugly face, stuck out her tongue at me, and left my room.

P.S. Praew is in the middle wearing a 10 on her shirt.

LewisCarrol
09-05-18, 22:28
Hello Folks,

Just coming back from Demo nighclub in arena 10 after some fun in Yes Karaoke. Lot of girls in Demo bw 12-2, some of them were pretty cute.

Can someone please guide me with the reasonable rate. Not worried about paying, but wouldn't want to get completely scammed or spoil the market.

I understand massage, BJ bars, Thermae, gogos etc. But this is a new joint I encountered. So wanted to check once.

Would appreciate your help!

Safe Mongering,

LC.

P.S. : Independent Consultant; Frequently travel to Thailand for work. This time around for an year or so.

Syzygies
09-06-18, 03:54
Back in the room, she was completely shaved and enjoyed DATY for 30 minutes until she came twice. Then she became more receptive to a BBBJ that lasted only 5 minutes but had good technique. I'm telling you now, you won't get the BBBJ or even a BJ, unless you give her DATY and make her cum in order to get her turned on. We went through many positions and even went back to more DATY for the next hour or so. She remained wet from cumming before. Her best position to fuck in was doggy, which split open them cheeks, to reveal an asshole that opened up easily. This is when I finally shot my load. I pulled off the condom and so much cum squirted on her bare ass and dripped in her asshole down to her pussy. She got mad that I shot my load on her and tries to wipe some on me. I am fast and I was able to dodge her rude behavior.
Then again, I did tell her in the beginning that all I wanted was to use that body of hers and nothing much more. Strangely, after we were done, she asked if I wanted to come to her birthday part after midnight on the 11th of this month. I was like, "not really, I'll be in Pattaya fucking other girls." She made an ugly face, stuck out her tongue at me, and left my room.

P.S. Praew is in the middle wearing a 10 on her shirt.Not sure why you call her behaviour "rude". More playful. Maybe you can't see your own behaviour. I agree Praew is much better than other too. Your taste maybe quite good.

Rockerfellar
09-06-18, 09:25
So Monday night it was pouring down rain. Nana and Thermae didn't have anything that stood out. After spending about 3000 baht in drinks, I headed back to my room to play on Thai Friendly. Met a cute girl named May on TF, we then exchanged WeChat and got down to trading photos and talking business. I offered her 2500 for 2 hours of her time to suck and fuck. She agreed and met me at room around 11 pm, but ended up staying until 3 am. She was GFE all the way and allowed for BBBJ, DFK, and CIM. We started by showering together where she sucked me off until I blew my wad in her mouth. She ate every drop like it was lobster bisque. May is very receptive to foreplay and DATY. She can cum easily this way and likes it for long periods. She allowed me multiple pops in our session. Standing doggy over the bed is her favorite position. One of the most tightest pussies I've fucked. So she may not be a pro. Keep in mind it was raining hard, so she wasn't in a rush, but YMMV with her services and prices. Talking with her afterwards, she is farang friendly and always looking for more customers. Now, it seems that even though I don't have a high number of posts on this board, but pound for pound, they have a lot of impact. So here's another one!Hey MP, I can't find her in Thai Friendly.

Rockerfellar
09-06-18, 09:28
Can anyone of the members tell me more about how the G Club in BKK works.

Appreciate.

PoohKeyLover
09-06-18, 10:18
I went to Thermae for the first time last night and it reminds me of Nataree minus the pimps.

Breadman
09-06-18, 20:11
In case anybody thinks I do any type of racial profiling at the Go Go bars, point proven.
Having the girl agree to go with you and you being Asian does not prove that there isn't racial profiling going on with the other races of guys in the bar. She might refuse to be barfined by everyone except for Asian guys. You just don't know until you can prove that the girl will go with a non Asian guy. I'll be there in a few days and I plan on asking every girl if they can be barfined before I buy any of them drinks. Just isn't worth spending money on a girl if she's on her 'Caucasian period'.

Beijing4987
09-06-18, 21:32
So much winning.

Breadman
09-06-18, 23:42
I stole her from a Japanese guy who was with friends, and had bought her a drink before me. ..... In case anybody thinks I do any type of racial profiling at the Go Go bars, point proven..Interesting that from across the bar MP knew the guy was Japanese. Is it not racial profiling to see an Asian guy sitting across the bar and know what country he's from?

Rob Jones
09-07-18, 03:03
Interesting that from across the bar MP knew the guy was Japanese. Is it not racial profiling to see an Asian guy sitting across the bar and know what country he's from?I don't usually support MP but my wife is Asian and she can usually tell with a 90% accuracy whereother Asians are from. So I find that believable.

Syzygies
09-07-18, 03:10
May is very receptive to foreplay and DATY. She can cum easily this way and likes it for long periods. She allowed me multiple pops in our session. Standing doggy over the bed is her favorite position. One of the most tightest pussies I've fucked. So she may not be a pro. I have got news for you. A high percentage of hookers can cum from a good DATY if they choose to, and many do. Many admit to cumming quite easily as well. So nothing unusual. Guys that believe a hooker would never cum while working are being conned. Depends on the girl.

As for tight pussies, this I very common among hookers. Plenty of girls don't want to do me because their pussy is too small (no baby). Okay Tightness and length of pussy are two different things but often correlate. Pussy is elastic so even if stretched by a fucking it can go back. Some girls seem extra tight after a few days holiday. Just have to start very slowly. Maybe I have done too few non hookers in my life to be a good survey. LOL However I do meet hookers so tight and pussy not straight, that they are too difficult to fuck. I suspected a Jamaican girl had been sowed up too tight after a baby. Could not get the dick in there properly with funnel shaped pussy, the deeper the tighter.

You know if you paid her or not. I have a girl that fuck and sometimes give her money. Is that a Pro? LOL I was not even thinking of my GF just now. They are all Pros unless they pay you to fuck, or never received anything from you other than sex.

Syzygies
09-07-18, 03:27
Interesting that from across the bar MP knew the guy was Japanese. Is it not racial profiling to see an Asian guy sitting across the bar and know what country he's from?He can tell the guy looks Japanese. So what? Some are obvious, some not. I have a couple of Japanese buddies met OS and in Thailand. No need to play the ridiculous racial card. Some people can tell I am German by look but actually I am not. No one cares.

Experienced mamasan in Cowboy can pick the country of majority of Asian guys going past based on experience of the way they look, how they dress, haircut, etc. Comments to me about Singapore guys based on look. Okay Apparently the shirts, shorts, and socks combined with face was a give away. I can't because Asian guys don't interest me. I would be interested in the girls though. I do notice the face shapes typical of certain countries, especially how they look similar or different to Thai.

I chatted to a Vietnamese girl the other day. Asked to guess where she came from, I had to go with USA, because her English was extremely good, thinking American Chinese. I never expected a Viet girl to have so little accent. She was amazing. Had only been in Thailand 1 year or so. At least I could see she did not look Thai nor Philippine, nor Cambodian, nor Myanmar, nor Indo, based on what? Racial profiling. Ha ha. We all learn from experience automatically. No harm done.

I could not help noticing huge levels of conformity in groups of guys from certain countries, re haircut, beard, moustache etc. Like they all follow a fashion carefully.

DonkeyLeg
09-07-18, 05:23
I have been an avid reader of ISG for over a year ever since I retired and started travelling around S. E. Asia. Now I am betwixt and between where to spend about 6 months of the year October to April. Japan my favorite is just too expensive, Indonesia and Malaysia have a strange vibe I somehow cannot relate to, Cambodia and Laos are too underdeveloped and Myanmar is a total mess on many levels, I like Vietnam but I have narrowed it down to Thailand and the Philippines. My interests are hedonistically simple, food and sex being one and two maybe two and one depends.

I am in no doubt Thailand wins hands down for food and also has the best looking girls, who can resist those smiles, but I'm leaning to the Philippines for sex. Maybe it's the cultural familiarity of the English language but I find the girls there have warmer personalities, are friendlier and for the most part are more genuinely GFE in bed.

I'm in Thailand at the moment. I have done the rounds of the popular massage places and go go bars and met some beautiful girls, have repeated with a few but sadly no one that I would want to take on holiday.

I enjoy conversation, especially pillow talk. Unfortunately even with girls that have good English skills after the usual small talk there is picture but only intermittent sound. It has no doubt something to do with the age gap and cultural differences. I'm not expecting intellectual discourse but they don't seem to have the slightest interest in anything happening in the world. Their life is absorbed by their phones. No problem though it is what it is and its OK. At my age being able to spend a night with a gorgeous young lady is more than I should reasonably expect and I am more than grateful l for that.

Anyway this is my maiden post, thanks to anybody who bothered to read it.

PoohKeyLover
09-07-18, 10:00
Went to the Thermae on the 2nd night since I didn't find anybody interesting on the first night. The place was really crowded. Majority of the visitors are of East Asians descent. Was only interested in LT and got rejected since the ones I was interested in are only into ST. Sat down 2 hours. Saw two very ladies. One rejected me outright, the 2nd rejected me at first but she approached me when I was about to leave and said she is willing to go with me for LT because she didn't get any customers for the night. Took her back to the hotel. Covered BJ but she gave me good fucks in various positions. Popped thrice. Stayed with me until early morning. She gave me her contact so that I can contact her again in my next visit to Bangkok. Paid her and gave her some money for cab ride back home.

Amnesia
09-07-18, 12:58
Just coming back from Demo nighclub in arena 10 after some fun in Yes Karaoke. Lot of girls in Demo bw 12-2, some of them were pretty cute.

Can someone please guide me with the reasonable rate. Not worried about paying, but wouldn't want to get completely scammed or spoil the market.No cover charge. Just pay for the drinks or open a bottle. You won't get scammed.

Amnesia
09-07-18, 13:07
Can anyone of the members tell me more about how the G Club in BKK works..Depending on the club, you either have to sign up for a membership (10 k-30 k THB including several bottles of whiskey) or you may have the option of paying a cover charge (1 k-2 k including 1-2 drinks sometimes). Inside the club you can have girls sit and drink with you, which (depending on the club) is another 400-600 per girl per hour plus her drinks (some clubs have different categories of girls with different rates and some require you to pay 2 k-3 k for the first hour). You then sit with that girl and she will tell you what food she likes. She then shows you what games she likes to play on her cell phone. You can also tell her whatever you want to tell her. She will pretend it's awesome. That will go on for as long as you want to. You then pay your bill of 15 k-50 k and leave the place.

MonkeyPaw
09-07-18, 17:38
Interesting that from across the bar MP knew the guy was Japanese. Is it not racial profiling to see an Asian guy sitting across the bar and know what country he's from?Okay, I'll take the bait. You really need to look up the definition of "racial profiling." It means to target a certain race when you do something. Has to do nothing about making "generalizations." English is not my first language, but even I knew that. Also, who said the guy sat across the bar? He and his buddies sat on the sofa bench to the left of me. It was only about 4 feet away. Yep, that means I stole his girl even with him and his friends nearby me. I went back and read my original post again. I never said anything about "from across the bar." And lastly, you are a bit right about the race thing. Most people cannot tell, unless you look at their fashion, style, hair cut etc. I'm Asian, a different class of Asian as compared to 99% of us / them, but most of the time I can tell by how they dress, tattoos style, hair cuts, and demeanor. I also get mistaken by other Asians as well. They have told me I look Korean or Japanese (because of all my tattoos) or Thai mixed. So I often just play along. If they say you look "Korean." I respond," You like Koreans?" Then it's game on.

MonkeyPaw
09-07-18, 18:26
Having the girl agree to go with you and you being Asian does not prove that there isn't racial profiling going on with the other races of guys in the bar. She might refuse to be barfined by everyone except for Asian guys. You just don't know until you can prove that the girl will go with a non Asian guy. I'll be there in a few days and I plan on asking every girl if they can be barfined before I buy any of them drinks. Just isn't worth spending money on a girl if she's on her 'Caucasian period'.I think you one again misunderstood the context of what I write. Let me help you out a bit with the complete quote.

"I also did her a favor by paying the long time barfine of 1000 instead of 700, so she did not have to return back to work because of the rain. I then asked her if she wanted to finish her drink with the Japanese guy and his friends. She said not really. So I told the waitress to bring over the shot he bought for her to my table and put it on my bill. Praew stood up, walked over and apologized to him, and went off to the dressing room to change her clothes. In case anybody thinks I do any type of racial profiling at the Go Go bars, point proven."

Most guys would consider that move an "asshole" type of move do to another customer. To be honest, I really don't know anybody who would do anything like that. First steal another customer's girl, then take his drink that he bought for her, and have it brought to your table because she's not interested in coming to him after I barfined her. I have no problem doing shit like this. I look at it as deducting 200 unnecessary bahts from his bill. He should be thanking me. I really didn't care if he even has friends he was sitting with. There are some guys in the past that get ticked off a bit because I'm Asian, and I have done this type of stuff to farangs before. So what I meant by "in case anybody thinks I do any type of racial profiling" means that I don't care what race you are. If I want a certain girl and the guy or guys are too slow to seal the deal with the girl, I will do what is necessary to grab her away from them. It doesn't matter if you are black, white, yellow, brown. Customers that are not hip to the game in Thailand will lose out to those who are expert hobbyists like me. Just last night I was at Thermae. I roamed the bar for about an hour before finally deciding on a girl. It took me this long because I have this bad problem of not remembering many of the girls I've fucked. This happens when you do so many many many girls in one bar. The girl I wanted was already talking to a customer, but it was like 10 minutes and they hadn't gone upstairs. I walked over there and asked her "how much for short time. " Both he and she looked at me. She then responded "I'm sorry I already have a customer. " I could have said how much is he paying you? I will pay more. But I did the best and nicest thing for all parties involved. I saw that she also had a not so pretty friend next to her who didn't have a customer. I told her in Thai, that if she is willing to dump her customer, I would also take her friend as well. That's the charitable thing to do knowing that she rather not leave her friend sitting alone. So being the good friend she was, she ditched the guy and I took them both. Moral of the story is that, if you have been in Thailand long enough, you will know what these girls value and how to play to get the girl you want. Just observe.

P.S. If you don't want to waste money on drinks for girls who want to play games. My advice is to ask mamasan over, buy her a drink, let her sit with you so it shows you have some rapport, then ask her to make you a list of all the girls numbers that are wiling to let you barfine them. She will go out and do the work for you. Once she comes back, tip her 100 baht and you spend the rest of the night looking at numbers and the best girls on the list. I've done that before and the mamasan came back with only 3 numbers out of what seemed like 50 girls dancing. I was like "what the fuck?" Then she told me that these 3 were "on their period." Haha I felt better.

MonkeyPaw
09-07-18, 18:36
Not sure why you call her behaviour "rude". More playful. Maybe you can't see your own behaviour. I agree Praew is much better than other too. Your taste maybe quite good.This is playful and maybe rude too. I brought with me 200 fake scorpions, centipedes, and roaches. I also brought a rubber snake. I stick them I girls shoes after we are done fucking. They scream, and curse me out afterwards. I'm trying to do my best to scare them off. Then they won't get jealous when I take another girl they work with. I also play with the hotel staff and everyone on Sukhumvit who sells street stuff and inside the restaurants at Terminal 21. Thais are scared shitless when it comes to snakes and bugs. LOL.

Aviator12
09-07-18, 20:42
I have been an avid reader of ISG for over a year ever since I retired and started travelling around S. E. Asia. Now I am betwixt and between where to spend about 6 months of the year October to April. Japan my favorite is just too expensive, Indonesia and Malaysia have a strange vibe I somehow cannot relate to, Cambodia and Laos are too underdeveloped and Myanmar is a total mess on many levels, I like Vietnam but I have narrowed it down to Thailand and the Philippines. My interests are hedonistically simple, food and sex being one and two maybe two and one depends.

I am in no doubt Thailand wins hands down for food and also has the best looking girls, who can resist those smiles, but I'm leaning to the Philippines for sex. Maybe it's the cultural familiarity of the English language but I find the girls there have warmer personalities, are friendlier and for the most part are more genuinely GFE in bed.

I'm in Thailand at the moment. I have done the rounds of the popular massage places and go go bars and met some beautiful girls, have repeated with a few but sadly no one that I would want to take on holiday.

I enjoy conversation, especially pillow talk. Unfortunately even with girls that have good English skills after the usual small talk there is picture but only intermittent sound. It has no doubt something to do with the age gap and cultural differences. I'm not expecting intellectual discourse but they don't seem to have the slightest interest in anything happening in the world. Their life is absorbed by their phones. No problem though it is what it is and its OK. At my age being able to spend a night with a gorgeous young lady is more than I should reasonably expect and I am more than grateful l for that.

Anyway this is my maiden post, thanks to anybody who bothered to read it.First post. And you are spot on! Your observations are correct. Generally more GFE in the Phil. But as you probably have found out; generalizations of girls in different countries are really of no use. The difference girl to girl is much greater than their nationality. Good luck! Looking forward to more posts from you.

Breadman
09-07-18, 21:04
But at what point does racial profiling take over from keen observation? Seems to me someone who has something against the Japanese would need and want to be able to spot them out of a bar full of other Asians. After what many countries went thru under Japanese control I wouldn't argue against any negative thoughts. Is this though racial profiling under the definitions allowed? I'm not attacking you MP, just curious where the grey line resides.


Okay, I'll take the bait. You really need to look up the definition of "racial profiling." It means to target a certain race when you do something. Has to do nothing about making "generalizations." English is not my first language, but even I knew that. Also, who said the guy sat across the bar? He and his buddies sat on the sofa bench to the left of me. It was only about 4 feet away. Yep, that means I stole his girl even with him and his friends nearby me. I went back and read my original post again. I never said anything about "from across the bar." And lastly, you are a bit right about the race thing. Most people cannot tell, unless you look at their fashion, style, hair cut etc. I'm Asian, a different class of Asian as compared to 99% of us / them, but most of the time I can tell by how they dress, tattoos style, hair cuts, and demeanor. I also get mistaken by other Asians as well. They have told me I look Korean or Japanese (because of all my tattoos) or Thai mixed. So I often just play along. If they say you look "Korean." I respond," You like Koreans?" Then it's game on.

Crocodilexp
09-07-18, 22:11
Indonesia and Malaysia have a strange vibe... Thailand wins hands down for food and also has the best looking girls, who can resist those smiles, but I'm leaning to the Philippines for sex. Maybe it's the cultural familiarity of the English language but I find the girls there have warmer personalities, are friendlier and for the most part are more genuinely GFE in bed.Welcome to the forum. You're right that in Malaysia and Indonesia the working girl scene is different: Farang are not the main target audience, not much GFE. However, if you ever decide to revisit Jakarta, target the regular girls. Foreigners are in short supply, and even if you're 60+, you'd be surprised at what kind of regular girls you can get, although you'll probably need some pipelining and at least a 2-3 week stay. Indonesians tend to be more curious and outspoken than Thais, and there's more variety of types than in either Thailand or the Philippines. As for Filipinas, they sure are desperate and friendly, but I don't really like their vibe much.

Beijing4987
09-07-18, 22:36
But at what point does racial profiling take over from keen observation? Seems to me someone who has something against the Japanese would need and want to be able to spot them out of a bar full of other Asians. After what many countries went thru under Japanese control I wouldn't argue against any negative thoughts. Is this though racial profiling under the definitions allowed? I'm not attacking you MP, just curious where the grey line resides.Can we get back to discussing casual dress, slacks and dress shirt versus shorts and flip, flops.

Dive Monger
09-08-18, 01:02
I have been an avid reader of ISG for over a year ever since I retired and started travelling around S. E. Asia. Now I am betwixt and between where to spend about 6 months of the year October to April. Japan my favorite is just too expensive, Indonesia and Malaysia have a strange vibe I somehow cannot relate to, Cambodia and Laos are too underdeveloped and Myanmar is a total mess on many levels, I like Vietnam but I have narrowed it down to Thailand and the Philippines. My interests are hedonistically simple, food and sex being one and two maybe two and one depends.

I am in no doubt Thailand wins hands down for food and also has the best looking girls, who can resist those smiles, but I'm leaning to the Philippines for sex. Maybe it's the cultural familiarity of the English language but I find the girls there have warmer personalities, are friendlier and for the most part are more genuinely GFE in bed.

I'm in Thailand at the moment. I have done the rounds of the popular massage places and go go bars and met some beautiful girls, have repeated with a few but sadly no one that I would want to take on holiday.

I enjoy conversation, especially pillow talk. Unfortunately even with girls that have good English skills after the usual small talk there is picture but only intermittent sound. It has no doubt something to do with the age gap and cultural differences. I'm not expecting intellectual discourse but they don't seem to have the slightest interest in anything happening in the world. Their life is absorbed by their phones. No problem though it is what it is and its OK. At my age being able to spend a night with a gorgeous young lady is more than I should reasonably expect and I am more than grateful l for that.

Anyway this is my maiden post, thanks to anybody who bothered to read it.Totally agree with your assessments here, my good man. I am also of an age where I should by all rights be retired, but still have my nose to the grindstone. I escape to SEA for the occasional holiday, and enjoy it greatly. Always I am choosing between LOS and the PI, for exactly those reasons: girls better (for me, YMMV) in the PI, food vastly better in Thailand. Also a bit less violent crime from what I can see around me. Anyway, you can't go wrong with either place IMHO.

Woorace
09-08-18, 01:35
Went to the Thermae on the 2nd night since I didn't find anybody interesting on the first night. The place was really crowded. Majority of the visitors are of East Asians descent. Was only interested in LT and got rejected since the ones I was interested in are only into ST. Sat down 2 hours. Saw two very ladies. One rejected me outright, the 2nd rejected me at first but she approached me when I was about to leave and said she is willing to go with me for LT because she didn't get any customers for the night. Took her back to the hotel. Covered BJ but she gave me good fucks in various positions. Popped thrice. Stayed with me until early morning. She gave me her contact so that I can contact her again in my next visit to Bangkok. Paid her and gave her some money for cab ride back home.I was in Thermae earlier this week, on my last night in BKK. I wish I had visited earlier in my trip, as I found the best of the 8 night stay there. I am a 68 year old white guy, and while there were a couple of ladies that wouldn't give me a glance, I really believe I could have had my pick of the liter if I chose. There were 4 or 5 that I was interested in, and all gace me smiles back, but the lady I picked was a 35 year old MILF, that looked 25. No holes barred, and she was every bit as ibto the love making as I was. In fact, we almost got each other off during the cab ride back to the hotel. As I said, I wished I had gone to Thermae before my last night.

Rob Jones
09-08-18, 05:33
Can we get back to discussing casual dress, slacks and dress shirt versus shorts and flip, flops.I will bite. I don't see the point in dressing up for P4 P. If I'm on a mission to find a girl to pay for sex I will wear shorts and flip flops. If I'm going to a club where I may snag a freebie or a part time girl I will wear pants and shoes. I don't think singlets (wife beaters) are acceptable except at the beach or pool.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-08-18, 06:42
I will bite. I don't see the point in dressing up for P4 P. If I'm on a mission to find a girl to pay for sex I will wear shorts and flip flops. If I'm going to a club where I may snag a freebie or a part time girl I will wear pants and shoes. I don't think singlets (wife beaters) are acceptable except at the beach or pool.I think Beijing4987 was being sarcastic, because of the extensive off-topic discussion about racial profiling.

Rob Jones
09-08-18, 06:44
I think Beijing4987 was being sarcastic, because of the extensive off-topic discussion about racial profiling.I know. But we have 4 post now not mentioning it LOL.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-08-18, 07:20
Snip. P.S. If you don't want to waste money on drinks for girls who want to play games. My advice is to ask mamasan over, buy her a drink, let her sit with you so it shows you have some rapport, then ask her to make you a list of all the girls numbers that are wiling to let you barfine them. She will go out and do the work for you. Once she comes back, tip her 100 baht and you spend the rest of the night looking at numbers and the best girls on the list. I've done that before and the mamasan came back with only 3 numbers out of what seemed like 50 girls dancing. I was like "what the fuck?" Then she told me that these 3 were "on their period." Haha I felt better.Am I understanding correctly that of about 50 girls dancing, only three of them would let you barfine them, and those three couldn't let you barfine them because they were "on their period"? How is that possible? Did they all decide to boycott you for some reason? I think even someone who looked like the Elephant Man could get at least one of them to let him barfine her.

BaddHabbit
09-08-18, 07:29
Am I understanding correctly that of about 50 girls dancing, only three of them would let you barfine them, and those three couldn't let you barfine them because they were "on their period"? How is that possible? Did they all decide to boycott you for some reason? I think even someone who looked like the Elephant Man could get at least one of them to let him barfine her.No, I translated that as EVERY girl was available for barfining, except three of them were on their periods.

Dirk67
09-08-18, 10:51
How long ago was this? Did you mean your first night ever in Bangkok? LOL The gal from Analisa on Line had never heard of Coy, even using the picture. Same answer when I called in and spoke to someone else. I get that she moved around but you'd figure they'd at least be aware of her.

On an unrelated note, I tried the wechat "people nearby" app last night and nabbed a foxy mid 20's Korean gal for 4 k. I recommend it if you haven't tried. Easy enough to set something up once you weed through all the LB's. Don't forget to video chat prior to meeting though.With all the surgery out there, some of which is very good (and it looks like most girls at Thermae or WeChat people nearby have had something done to their chin, nose, etc), how can you be 100% sure they're not a LB? I do appreciate that it seems a good number are upfront about it, but what about the remainder? LOL. I remember a time a few years back in Patpong where I suspected after everything was done that it was a post-op, but I could never be sure, and I was too drunk to care.

WindAngel
09-08-18, 11:21
But at what point does racial profiling take over from keen observation? Seems to me someone who has something against the Japanese would need and want to be able to spot them out of a bar full of other Asians. After what many countries went thru under Japanese control I wouldn't argue against any negative thoughts. Is this though racial profiling under the definitions allowed? I'm not attacking you MP, just curious where the grey line resides.He took her because she is the cutest. It just happened the customer was a Japanese. That is how I read it.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-08-18, 16:32
No, I translated that as EVERY girl was available for barfining, except three of them were on their periods.Your interpretation is more plausible than mine. I think it was the quote marks around having their period that threw me off. However, the fact that every girl would have gone with him (if they could) undermines his advice to get the mamasan's help in seeing who to talk to and buy a drink for. His advice might be useful if a guy is a troll or a Jabba the Hut type but I doubt a decent looking guy would need to do so. Of course there is always asking the girl to sit with you; if she does, asking her whether she barfines, and will she barfine with you; if she says yes, then buy her a drink. However, since she could be lying and try to get out of it by quoting a ridiculous price, you might want to talk about price and time after the first drink, lest she just use you to make her drink quota.

Syzygies
09-09-18, 03:05
This is playful and maybe rude too. I brought with me 200 fake scorpions, centipedes, and roaches. I also brought a rubber snake. I stick them I girls shoes after we are done fucking. When I started to read, I though you were being smart ass satirical. Maybe not. Certainly you are have some weird things to say.

Maybe I can learn from this. I do apply levels of rudeness selectively in bars to keep away unwanted companions, sucking up for a drink. Largely just ignoring them if at all possible, and preventing anyone from sitting on lap. Not even offering a glance at them often works. I never thought of having a supply of fake cockroaches etc. To shove down her clothing if she is wearing anything. LOL Wear do you buy these? I would love to have some for emergencies.

One thing I hate is unwanted massages. I don't even like massage. Do have any special advice to get rid of a girl who starts an uninvited shoulder massage? I hate ugly girls grabbing me uninvited. Sometimes "Mai Ao" is not quite working. Perhaps after a warning and still girl persists, I could spill my soda on her, If I don't have any centipedes on me.

Don't even like uninvited girl rubbing against my crotch. Raunchy does not supersede fat or ugly for me.

Syzygies
09-09-18, 03:08
No, I translated that as EVERY girl was available for barfining, except three of them were on their periods.Yeh Lost in Translation, most likely. If it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense. No big deal.

HectorG
09-09-18, 04:34
Can we get back to discussing casual dress, slacks and dress shirt versus shorts and flip, flops.I completely agree with you. During the day I'm typically wearing nice shorts, collared shirt and sandals. But at night when it's cooler I wear khakis or hiking pants (i can hear the Brits giggling at "pants"), collared shirt and sneakers (trainers). Many hiking pants convert to shorts so you can easily dress it up simply by attaching the leg bottoms. More than one girl has told me they approached me because I was better dressed than some guys who looked like they just stepped off the beach in swim trunks, "wife beater" tanks and $1 flip-flops. Most Asian mongers are normally wearing pants. It's all about personal preference too. I personally feel much more confident when I'm a bit more dressed up. You don't need to wear a 3-piece suit, but at least look like you gave a rats ass to wake up today!

MonkeyPaw
09-09-18, 07:03
So I spent about a week in BKK and this is the most recent summary of my experience. Nana is the place to be with all of its renovations. If you haven't been in awhile, need to check it out. With its new roof, the adult playground is all indoors and safe from the rain. Soi Cowboy and Thermae was just the same old shit with the same old girls. Thermae, I got so confused at which girls I've been with and which I have not. I can't seem to remember them all. I guess it's a nice problem to have when you have done so many. At Soi Cowboy, only Baccara and Shark took credit cards for everything, even the girls. But at Nana, most bars accepted plastic, a big plus for me as my father is the one picking up my tabs when I pay with credit cards. Rainbow 5 is back to being called Rainbow 4. Rainbow 1, 3, and 2 have a shit load of girls with the addition of coyotes. Their barfines are 1000 baht. They are doing this to make their customer base more farang friendly. It's worth checking out. All girls under 20 have been kicked out from working Nana. So be advised if you are looking for the young ones, you will find yourself in a heap of trouble if you ask around. The elusive #32 dancer at Angel Witch was finally found by me. Another member wanted confirmation that she was quite possibly the hottest girl at Nana. IMHO, no way. Her face is acceptable, but she has no tits, her ass is flat and has a squared shape to them. There are others who are more balanced with better features like tits and ass. So my answer is no she is not. I've seen better at Nana.

Some girls at Nana that I got to fuck this time around and recommend are as follow. They all provided me with DATY, DFK, BBBJ, a few did CIM.

Rainbow 2 (1st corner): #501, #65, #12.

Billboard: #835, #862.

Lollipop: #89.

Rainbow 3 (2nd stairs): #41, #9, #20, #101.

Bangkok Bunnies: #99.

Of all the girls I fucked (14 girls) in 7 days, including 11 Go Go bar girls, 1 Massage shop, 1 Thermae, and 1 Thai Friendly, one girl definitely stood out. A girl by the name of Beam (pictured) at Billboard. Her number is #835. She's only been there less than 5 days and has a stunning body with white skin and fake tits. She is from Chang Mai, but speaks very little English. She is new to Billboard, and is not quite corrupted just yet by the other girls. I paid 3000 for her ST for 2 hours. She spent 30 minutes alone just sucking my dick until I popped. I thought that was the end, but she allowed a second pop and we started fucking. She even gave me a Kamagra jelly pack so I can stay hard. What girl gives a customer Viagra for a second round. ? I fucked her brains out for the next hour without any complaints. And the way she squeezed her pussy during sex, I was able to cum inside. Amazing! Grab her quickly before she learns from the other girls that she is providing way too much for what her looks can get away with. And as always, YMMV, it's all about how well you play the game with these girls. Now it's off to Pattaya for 3 weeks!

MonkeyPaw
09-09-18, 12:02
Your interpretation is more plausible than mine. I think it was the quote marks around having their period that threw me off. However, the fact that every girl would have gone with him (if they could) undermines his advice to get the mamasan's help in seeing who to talk to and buy a drink for. His advice might be useful if a guy is a troll or a Jabba the Hut type but I doubt a decent looking guy would need to do so. Of course there is always asking the girl to sit with you; if she does, asking her whether she barfines, and will she barfine with you; if she says yes, then buy her a drink. However, since she could be lying and try to get out of it by quoting a ridiculous price, you might want to talk about price and time after the first drink, lest she just use you to make her drink quota.I was advising Breadman who I think is black. I have several black acquaintances that have came from the USA to hang out with me. This is the same advice I give them and it seems to work out well. There is no waste on money and time on girls who play games. In most Asian cultures, it's not about the race as much as it is about the color of your skin. The lighter skinned Asians always have preference over the darker skinned Asians. Lighter skin often meant your family lineage were not farm or hard laborers. It means you had a higher status. I think most folks know that. That's why I use sun block.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-09-18, 17:34
I was advising Breadman who I think is black. I have several black acquaintances that have came from the USA to hang out with me. This is the same advice I give them and it seems to work out well. There is no waste on money and time on girls who play games. In most Asian cultures, it's not about the race as much as it is about the color of your skin. The lighter skinned Asians always have preference over the darker skinned Asians. Lighter skin often meant your family lineage were not farm or hard laborers. It means you had a higher status. I think most folks know that. That's why I use sun block.I know Breadman. While he may have a huge cock (per his posts), he is Caucasian. While going through the mamasan for a black guy might save some time, as some girls may be fearful of the reputed size of black dicks, I doubt they face as much discrimination from go go girls as South Asians, who have their own (bad) reputation.

As you are an East Asian, and thus the preferred target group for go go girls, as you discovered when every girl at the go go bar would go with you, why did you feel the need to have the mamasan ask on your behalf?

MonkeyPaw
09-09-18, 19:40
I know Breadman. While he may have a huge cock (per his posts), he is Caucasian. While going through the mamasan for a black guy might save some time, as some girls may be fearful of the reputed size of black dicks, I doubt they face as much discrimination from go go girls as South Asians, who have their own (bad) reputation.

As you are an East Asian, and thus the preferred target group for go go girls, as you discovered when every girl at the go go bar would go with you, why did you feel the need to have the mamasan ask on your behalf?Because I was in a farang preferred bar. There were very few East Asians, so I honestly didn't want to waste my time or money. Most people know, I don't like to play games with girls.

Turgid
09-09-18, 19:51
I know Breadman. While he may have a huge cock (per his posts), he is Caucasian. While going through the mamasan for a black guy might save some time, as some girls may be fearful of the reputed size of black dicks, I doubt they face as much discrimination from go go girls as South Asians, who have their own (bad) reputation......I believe the black chaps are more financially generous hence the preference for them; they may actually be charged more than others because of their perceived endowment.

MichaelSamuel
09-10-18, 04:07
My second week of this trip was an experiment is something different for me. In order to extend my trip and get more time in country without using up holiday time I cut a deal with my boss to work remotely during the week but on US hours so I would work nightly around 7/8-3/4. This would allow me to still have my afternoons to hit someplace up and then have dinner with friends and go to work. With the added benefit of being able to slip out for an hour or so on my "lunch" break. With this in mind, my main hunting ground would be thermae. I had taken girls there a few times before but I wanted to explore it more and see how it would go. With that plan in mind I moved to the 4 points on soi15 where you can fall out of the hotel and in the back door of thermae. I didn't get a very good price, but I wanted the SPG points and the location is perfect for thermae and easy for nana and cowboy too.

I ended up pulling 4 girls out of there over different nights. 3 at 2500 and one at 3, and of course the one at 3 was the biggest failure. I had pulled from thermae a few times before, but this was by far the most amount of time I had ever spent in there. Personally, this helped me be more blunt with the girls and learn to be more specific about what I want which certainly helped. Despite all the years in this hobby I can still feel awkward at times and need to be more direct before settling on a girl in thermae, gogo, or otherwise. For me this really means DFK and BBBJ, even though the BJ usually isn't that great if the girl is going to be too squeamish to even do that I have doubts anything more will be worth it.

First pull was oddly probably the best sex of the bunch, but the least on the looks side. I had suspicions going in since I only saw her sitting down and I could tell she wasn't my normal skinny body type, but I liked her face and smile. She was a right side girl (right and left defined by orientation to when you walk in from Sukhumvit) and was 2 k.

My failure was a left side girl and a skinny thing which I liked, she insisted on 3 k since I was farang and larger than Asian. I thought ok, she is recognizing its going to be more work, when what I should have done is taken a pass. To be fair despite it being too large for her she did try, but the problem ended up being she was too impatient and she hurt herself. I don't know if it was an attempt to get it over with or just inexperience. In the end had to stop as her pain was just too obvious and I wasn't going to finish. After she seemed in general pain and I felt bad, but it had definitely been when she was on top and trying to rush. Bad choice on my part.

My 2 better wins and both on my repeat list for November were from the back left corner and back middle and both 2500. One was a SYT in workout / yoga pants that looked great and was a different look than the girls normally sport. Her English was good and she liked to workout and it showed. What was great is that when we started in miss I naturally go very slow since I am a bit larger than average, just a little bit in she decides she can handle it and grabs and pulls me all the way in. Was super hot and definitely memorable. My other winner had one of the nicest set of natural tits on a thai girl I have ever seen, around 36 C and no baby. Sure they weren't as perky as a small set, but with size you have to expect some drop. Feel was just excellent and her body was great. With both the girls after they stated their price I asked for kiss with tongue and BBBJ and both readily agreed so this was definitely the method I will use going forward.

I have kept in touch through line with both my winners and looks promising for November so I will see. Sure 2500 is still overpriced for a ST set of an hour or so, but no barfine, no LD, and still less than a gogo these days. I plan on doing a repeat week of work in November so I will see if my targeting has gotten any better and report back.

Syzygies
09-10-18, 10:13
My failure was a left side girl and a skinny thing which I liked, she insisted on 3 k since I was farang and larger than Asian. I thought ok, she is recognizing its going to be more work, when what I should have done is taken a pass. To be fair despite it being too large for her she did try, but the problem ended up being she was too impatient and she hurt herself. I don't know if it was an attempt to get it over with or just inexperience. In the end had to stop as her pain was just too obvious and I wasn't going to finish. After she seemed in general pain and I felt bad, but it had definitely been when she was on top and trying to rush. Bad choice on my part.
Advice: Don't allow dick scared girls on top. They can do themselves damage, if not controlling carefully. Even a girl was not scared rode me too vigorously in cowgirl and was bleeding quite strongly bright red and claimed not her period (years ago now). Instead try putting in the tip well lubed, and gradually little by little put a bit more in. Give time for her pussy to expand. Pussies stretch, even enough to have a baby. After a gradual increase in insertion, you may be able to get the whole lot in. Be careful not to have knob crashing the uterus which is typically only 4+ inches in. Above all, don't bang too powerfully if you are too big for the girl.

Also you will find there are skinny girls who like a big one, much easier if take girls with lots of Farang experience.

Dirk67
09-10-18, 11:00
One pleasant night I returned from a previously arranged date with one of the dime-a-dozen models that wasn't going anywhere (I didn't get the sense that she was not p4 p and her attitude was meh so after a few drinks I bailed). At this point it was nearing midnight. I ended up meeting a girl off WeChat. Turns out she was much older than expected (probably mid-30's), much shorter than appeared, and while 95% sure she would have come over if I asked, after one drink I took her back to her apartment which was walking distance.

Then I messaged a cute girl who from her pics appeared just my type, also from WeChat (we had connected earlier). She wanted 4 k at first, talked down to 3 k, then she made it over to my hotel in record time. I met her downstairs, and as soon as she walked in something felt a little off. First, way taller than I expected even without heels, a little bigger boned as well, and mannerisms just a bit off with a twinge to her voice. Once in the room, my spidey-sense went off more, and she immediately went to turn off all lights and wanted money up front. At that point I finally came to my senses and pulled the plug. I did give her a red note just for her trouble, which was probably generous, and she kept asking what's wrong, what's wrong, before saying 100 baht wasn't enough, LOL.

I'm 95% sure this one was a LB, and I'm surprised folks are able to find success on WeChat when it appears 8/10 of the girls showing up on people nearby are up front about being a ladyboy, and then probably 75% of the remaining are also ladyboys but not up front about it.

Oh well, I probably need to recharge anyway, it was a better decision to sleep than go through with it.