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I think 2 K-2. 5 K short times with no clockwatching are fairly easy to obtain in BKK through something like Tinder.1 k is also available 2 k is a bit steep.
Blanquiceleste
03-02-19, 12:29
Here is an article about a French lady getting deported after being detained for being in possession of a vaping device.
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/national/frenchwoman-deported-for-vaping/
Careful folks. Siamsin you got away lightly, thank your stars.
Tooms, as always, really appreciate your comments and feedback.
Maybe we can analyze the Laws here, and finally get some clarity.
Section 5.
Any person who, for the purpose of prostitution, solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or importunes a person in a street, public place or any other place, which is committed openly and shamelessly or causes nuisance to the public, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht.
Section 6.
Any person who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution of oneself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht or to both. If the offence under paragraph one is committed on account of compulsion or under an influence which cannot be avoided or resisted, the offender is not guilty.
Section 7.
Any person who advertises or agrees to advertise, induces or introduces by means of documents or printed matters, or by any means makes known to the public in a manner apparently indicative of importunity or solicitation for the prostitution of oneself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of six months to two years or to a fine of ten thousand to forty thousand Baht or to both.I believe the above Sections are all about loitering in a public place in order to engage in prostitution, advertising for it, publicly promoting it, "pimping" for it and so on but not about the act of prostitution itself. So the girls standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot will scatter or vanish when the police show up to check for visa violations or age violations in the Plaza because they can be busted for standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot soliciting for prostitution. However, there does not appear to me to be any reason for them to worry about being busted for the actual exchange of sex for money (or for the customer giving them money for sex) in a customer's hotel room or apartment.
This is similar to the temporary closure of a couple of famous BJ Bars in the area a few years ago. As I understood it, they weren't closed because there was an exchange of sex for money going on. It was because the girls sitting outside were too aggressive in shouting out what was on offer, publicly promoting the business, when potential customers passed by. For a while afterwards they only mimed and whispered what was on offer as potential customers passed by. lol.
Section 8.
Any person who, in order to gratify the sexual desire of oneself or another person, has sexual intercourse with or acts otherwise against a person over fifteen but not over eighteen years of age in a prostitution establishment, with or without his or her consent, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to three years and to a fine of twenty thousand to sixty thousand Baht.
If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a child not over fifteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of two to six years and to a fine of forty thousand to one hundred twenty thousand Baht. If the act under paragraph one is committed against one's own spouse, and not to gratify the sexual desire of another person, the offender is not guilty.Of any of these Sections, the above is the one that comes closest to addressing the act of prostitution itself. However, note that it is only about the exchange of sex for money IF the girl (person) is under the age of 18. And in that case, there is a greater penalty for the crime when it is done with a girl under the age of 15 than from age 15 to 18. Again, note that there is no penalty mentioned if the girl (person) is over the age of 18.
That last sentence seems to be assuring us that it is not against the law to have sex with your spouse even if he or she isn't into it UNLESS it is done to provide sexual gratification for someone else. A third party getting off on watching you have sex with your disinterested spouse who does not want to play along? Ok.
Section 9.
Any person who procures, seduces or takes away any person for the prostitution of such person, even with her or his consent and irrespective of whether the various acts which constitute an offence are committed within or outside the Kingdom, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to ten years and to a fine of twenty thousand to two hundred thousand Baht. If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a person over fifteen but not over eighteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of five to fifteen years and to a fine of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand Baht.
If the offence under paragraph one is committed against a child not over fifteen years of age, the offender shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of ten to twenty years and to a fine of two hundred thousand to four hundred thousand Baht. If the offence under paragraph one, two or three is committed by means of fraud, deceit, threat, violence, exercising undue influence or coercing against her or his will in any manner whatsoever, the offender shall be liable to heavier penalty than that provided in paragraph one, two or three by one third, as the case may be.
Any person who, in order to bring about prostitution, admits a person known to him or her as having been procured, seduced or taken away under paragraph one, two, three or four, or supports the commission of such offence shall be liable to the penalty provided in paragraph one, two, three or four, as the case may be.
Would love some interpretations from you and other guys regarding the above, particularly section 9.In the case of Section 9, I suppose what we need is an interpretation of the terms "procures, seduces or takes away " and "admits". Like all the other Sections, it does not appear to have anything to say about the actual act of exchanging sex for money IF the girl (person) is over the age of 18. However, I believe that Section is really about someone imposing undue "pressure" on someone to engage in sex for money. Arranging to do it almost against their will. And, naturally, a greater penalty if it is done more demonstrably against their will.
"takes away" and "admits" seems to be about removing someone (but not necessarily forcibly) from one location and taking them to another location in order to impose that undue pressure. The girl (person) is taken away from home or safety. They might reasonably conclude they MUST cooperate or they will not be released or allowed to leave and so on. And in that case, even the person who "admits" or harbors the procurer and his presumably less than enthusiastic prey can be held criminally liable.
Could the term "seduces" be construed by a clever and motivated prosecutor to include promising a girl a lifetime of love, happiness and financial security if she hops in bed for a 1,000 baht vs a 2,000 baht ST tonight? Give that possibility some serious consideration in your negotiations, fellas. DON'T over promise for a "future reward". lol.
I believe the above Sections are all about loitering in a public place in order to engage in prostitution, advertising for it, publicly promoting it, "pimping" for it and so on but not about the act of prostitution itself. So the girls standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot will scatter or vanish when the police show up to check for visa violations or age violations in the Plaza because they can be busted for standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot soliciting for prostitution. However, there does not appear to me to be any reason for them to worry about being busted for the actual exchange of sex for money (or for the customer giving them money for sex) in a customer's hotel room or apartment.
This is similar to the temporary closure of a couple of famous BJ Bars in the area a few years ago. As I understood it, they weren't closed because there was an exchange of sex for money going on. It was because the girls sitting outside were too aggressive in shouting out what was on offer, publicly promoting the business, when potential customers passed by. For a while they only mimed and whispered what was on offer as potential customers passed by. lol.
Of any of these Sections, the above is the one that comes closest to addressing the act of prostitution itself. However, note that it is only about the exchange of sex for money IF the girl (person) is under the age of 18. And in that case, there is a greater penalty for the crime when it is done with a girl under the age of 15 than from age 15 to 18. Again, note that there is no penalty mentioned if the girl (person) is over the age of 18.
In the case of Section 9, I suppose what we need is an interpretation of the terms "procures, seduces or takes away " and "admits". Like all the other Sections, it does not appear to have anything to say about the actual act of exchanging sex for money IF the girl (person) is over the age of 18. However, I believe that Section is really about someone imposing undo "pressure" on someone to engage in sex for money. Arranging to do it against their will. "takes away" and "admits" seems to be about removing someone forcibly from one location and taking them to another location in order to impose that undo pressure. The girl (person) is taken away from home or safety. They might reasonably conclude they MUST cooperate or they will not be released or allowed to leave and so on. And in that case, even the person who "admits" or harbors the procurer and his presumably unwilling prey can be held criminally liable.While the laws in Thailand can be ambiguous at best, I think your interpretations are spot on. More about public soliciting, pimping, and age related matters.
SL.
Not sure where to post the first one, she was on Smooci but the Smooci thread seems more related to issues with the service / app vs. Reviews so I'll leave a review here. I dunno why but I feel partial to independents, so I focused my searching there. I bought a subscription a couple weeks before arriving so I could read reviews and do some research that way. I saved a bunch of profiles but sadly by the time I got here most of them hadn't been online for a while. But a few were. I loved the photos of a girl called Methys, but honestly I was a bit hesitant because her rates are so low, and she only had a handful of reviews. The reviews were mostly positive, but still I had a bit of hesitation. Anyway overcame that and booked her for a two hour session the first or second night in town, and I couldn't have been happier. She is LOVELY. Very pretty, very sensual, fantastic natural body, all services as described. She even wanted to stay over LT for the 2 hour rate (in fact we fell asleep for a couple hours together), but I just can't sleep well with girls in the room so I somewhat reluctantly called it a night. I'm still slightly regretting that. Probably would have been worth it to get a bad night's sleep and enjoy some good morning sex with her. I was hoping to see her again before I left, but you know how it goes. Too many options, not enough time!
Second girl was a pickup from Thermae my last night in town. I stopped in there briefly the first night I got here. Had it on my list as a good prospect because I truly love picking up independents from bars. But it's such a weird place, that first night I walked in, drank my beer quickly, and just walked back out. I couldn't get comfortable with it for whatever reason; I guess I was hoping for a spot to just sit down, drink a beer or two, and chat up a few ladies. Thermae is definitely not that place! But when I went back I was in a better head space as I knew what I was in for. I hung out a bit, tried to avoid laps and find a spot in the middle, and just took in the action for a half hour or so. Eventually I spotted a very pretty girl who seemed a bit of an outlier to the rest of the crowd, so a quick chat, quick negotiation (2500 offer, countered 2000 and accepted, but ended up tipping her the +500 anyway), and we were on our way. Back at the hotel she was wonderful. No BBBJ sadly, but while CBJ for sure is not my preference, I much prefer a good wet pussy to a wet mouth so no big deal. And wet she was. Multi orgasmic, super passionate, DFK, all in all probably a tie with Methys for my best evening of the trip. I got her number and will for sure call her if / when I'm back in town.
I also spent a couple hours the last night at Beer Garden, it's a weird spot but it kind of grows on you. One thing I dislike is that I felt tied to my spot at the bar because of the ticketing system. Maybe that's just me and there's a workaround, but I felt I had to close out my bill to move to another spot near a lady I fancied. Turns out nothing transpired there anyway, but for guys like me who prefer MILFs to 19 year old Bar girls, it's fertile hunting ground. And there definitely were at least a couple stunners there; one already occupied and got taken out shortly after I arrived, the other who caught my eye was sitting just a couple seats away but seemed disinterested the few times I tried to make eye contact and smile. Then of course when I paid my bill and got up to leave she asked where I was going so soon, but by that time, I was committed to checking out Thermae so. See'est la vie. I also really liked the music (and the fact that it's not so loud to blast our your ear drums), but it's too damned hot in there.
BTW, it's only fair that since I threw a brickbat your way this time, that I throw a bouquet your way for the time in a previous write up where you decided not to take a girl's virginity and allowed your big head to do all of the thinking.Reminds me of a restaurant worker from Hunan province I met in CP, China many years ago. We met on her day off and ended up in my room. I asked her if she had a boyfriend to which she replied: "I have never kissed a man". I thought to myself it would be bad karma to take this girl's virginity and spoil her marital prospects. I dared not kiss her less I succumb.
RockyBiason1
03-02-19, 19:58
Hello,
I am not sure whether this is right forum to ask or not. Previously when I used to visit Bangkok I usually fix my meeting online with girls using craigslist.
I avoid picking up ladies from bars.
As of now it seems there no other choice rather than visiting famous places and pick the choices.
I would like have members views on whether we still have a option to book girls online specifically freelancers or it's totally gone?
PassinThrough
03-02-19, 23:16
Hello,
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As of now it seems there no other choice rather than visiting famous places and pick the choices.
I would like have members views on whether we still have a option to book girls online specifically freelancers or it's totally gone?If you read back a few pages your questions will be answered, there was a lot of advice on different methods of finding girls without going into Bars and Go-go's.
In the case of Section 9, I suppose what we need is an interpretation of the terms "procures, seduces or takes away " and "admits". Like all the other Sections, it does not appear to have anything to say about the actual act of exchanging sex for money IF the girl (person) is over the age of 18. However, I believe that Section is really about someone imposing undue "pressure" on someone to engage in sex for money. Arranging to do it almost against their will. And, naturally, a greater penalty if it is done more demonstrably against their will.
"takes away" and "admits" seems to be about removing someone (but not necessarily forcibly) from one location and taking them to another location in order to impose that undue pressure. The girl (person) is taken away from home or safety. They might reasonably conclude they MUST cooperate or they will not be released or allowed to leave and so on. And in that case, even the person who "admits" or harbors the procurer and his presumably less than enthusiastic prey can be held criminally liable.Thanks uncle Tooms, makes a lot more sense with your explanation. Appreciate you taking the time out to address it in your usual eloquent manner. Nicely done with the 20 year old on Friday BTW.
When I grow up, I want to be just like you. LOL.
Here is an article about a French lady getting deported after being detained for being in possession of a vaping device.
https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/national/frenchwoman-deported-for-vaping/
Careful folks. Siamsin you got away lightly, thank your stars.Indeed, you guys are 100% correct, I was very fortunate. I mentioned that incident intentionally for other vapers on ISG to be wary. How you deal with the officer's is pivotal. Always be polite, respectful, apologetic and sincere when dealing with the authorities (please don't try and fuck them over like I did, it could've backfired, I'm just a mischievous bastard by nature). Coming from Africa where corruption is rife, I have some experience in these kind of situations.
Regarding the article, and noting that the lady was from France, IMO, I have no doubt that she was argumentative and on a self righteous endeavor, to take the officers to task, instead of conforming and possibly bargaining for a lesser bribe. You can try and impose your rights, beliefs and values of your country of origin in a foreign country, but when it fails and you end up spending thousands, ruin your holiday and embarrass yourself, the question is, was it really worth it?
Who know's, perhaps if this story gets a lot of publicity and media coverage, the Thai authorities may consider allowing vaping in Thailand sometime in the near future. I did read a report that the Thai government was considering allowing vaping as so many holidaymakers now prefer e-cigs, so it makes sense from a tourism point of view.
When I arrived my bags were checked and scanned at Suvarnabhumi airport, and my gear was just looked at but not questioned. Previously when I flew from Don Mueang airport, I was considerably more paranoid, being a national flight. So much so, that I showed my devices to the staff of the airline and asked them if it was okay to have it in my hand luggage. They confirmed it was fine and pointed to a sign that illustrated an e-cig should be carried in your hand luggage. It's definitely a case of how you deal with the situation when confronted by officers. I recall being stopped for speeding in Udon Thani and the 200 bht folded into my passport did the trick.
BTW, it's only fair that since I threw a brickbat your way this time, that I throw a bouquet your way for the time in a previous write up where you decided not to take a girl's virginity and allowed your big head to do all of the thinking.You know, 10 years back my big head and small head were nearly the same size. Believe it or not, I'm much less of an asshole now, hehe.
Uscalidude
03-03-19, 00:30
Hello fellow mongers,
I will be traveling to BKK during elections time (arriving on Election Day, March 23th and leaving on the 27th). Do you guys think it'll be safe mongering (planning on hitting nana, few clubs, and maybe few escorts) or should I cancel the trip altogether.
Help a brother out.
Thanks everyone!
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When I grow up, I want to be just like you. LOL.You must begin by cleansing your mind of impure thoughts, my son.
Pointy Stick
03-03-19, 03:18
Reminds me of a restaurant worker from Hunan province I met in CP, China many years ago. We met on her day off and ended up in my room. I asked her if she had a boyfriend to which she replied: "I have never kissed a man". I thought to myself it would be bad karma to take this girl's virginity and spoil her marital prospects. I dared not kiss her less I succumb.It doesn't necessarily preclude oral sex. Its a community service to educate women and keep them in a marriageable state.
1) Dumb? Really Catire? Prostitution is illegal in Thailand but we all fuck Thai prostitutes, does that make us all Dumb? So if you're sitting at a gogo bar with a girl on your lap propositioning her for sex, and the police raid the joint, does that make you dumb? If you're not someone that vapes, you don't understand that it's like a smoker being told to only smoke at home and not when they go anywhere else. You think that's possible? Please, think before you insult others.
Read that bit again. After I came, I asked her if she was okay. And that's when she said 'No'. Obviously because of the throat annoying cum shot. We had discussed CIM prior.
At no point did you give me credit for taking the time to write the report, upload pics and share the story. I clearly pointed out the repercussions of vaping in Thailand, using Sidegra, girls you may meet at Thermae, not tipping well etc. But instead of saying thank's for the contribution I found certain bits funny or helpful or interesting, but I don't agree with XYZ. You shoot holes in my report without verifying details, assuming you know everything like you were present, suspect the worst and give me your solutions like I asked for it. What annoys me more is that you believe everything in my report that you openly criticize, then selectively decide not to believe that she had multiple orgasms because that would mean she enjoyed herself. Mate, read my previous reports, I like to fuck girls hard at times, other times I'm more passionate. At no point did I degrade her, humiliate her or disrespect her. I'm sure this is the InternationalSexGuide forum, not the InternationalPassionateLovemaking forum.You constantly move the goal posts when you are replying to criticism. Is prostitution illegal in Thailand? Sure. Generally, one will not get scammed by the police for it though. Vape, litter, smoke cigarettes in non-smoking areas are ways to get scammed or "caught".
You want credit for your reports, and you do deserve some praise for the generous tips you share. But you also share instances of immaturity while also feeling as though the forum owes you some slack for acting like trash at times. CIM isn't the same as swallowing or cumming in the throat which really only happens if one is 'premature'. There's no need to verify that. You said it then shared the girl said "mai".
Your reports fall on 2 extremes; 1 with great tips in terms of finding girls; the other that reads like a guy who's desperate for acceptance. That's why you get the responses that you do and why it is polarizing. No one really cares how you bang girls, but what anyone cares about are different avenues to find them.
I was walking through Soi Cowboy last night about 9:15 PM and, lo and behold, the new "Crazy House 2" bar at the corner of Soi 23 was open for business! Except it isn't called "Crazy House 2". It is called Kozy Kazy. Whatever that means. And we thought the Crazy House/Crazy Horse confusion was annoying.
None of the girls paid the least bit of attention to me no matter how much I craned my neck to smile at them if for no other reason but in search of signs of life. Were they under orders not to sit with customers for lady drinks on this first night? Or maybe it was only me. Actually, I did not see girls sitting with other customers getting lady drinks either. But, again, maybe that was because it had just opened. I stayed for the one drink and a dance set change, about 12 girls in each set. A couple of guys came IN with girls for whom they bought drinks though.That is a bummer. Wonder how this place will be 3 months, 6 months, etc from now. Well the hope could be this place eventually gets some lookers and keeps a non-aggressive vibe. But still, reactions from the girls should be expected.
I don't vape but didn't know that it is illegal. I'm curious if other ISG posters know anything about this.I'd ask the same.
Is it "because we can" or can they be modded to provide a more euphoric high?
Cheers. G.
Here is a report up to Friday, March 2. Its for you guys heading over, not those who stay here.Nice report Nyezhov, appreciate the time it took to write up. I also appreciate the laissez faire attitude you seem to have. Very refreshing. Except for when being jostled in Thermae, it seems.
I will be traveling to BKK during elections time (arriving on Election Day, March 23th and leaving on the 27th). Do you guys think it'll be safe mongering (planning on hitting nana, few clubs, and maybe few escorts) or should I cancel the trip altogether.
I would guess that Election Day will be deemed a 'dry' day, so no alcohol sales permitted. Bars and nightlife venues will likely be closed. This could also be the case (to varying degrees) in the days leading up to the election. If you seriously need alcohol pick some up at the airport Duty Free.
Escorts / FL / SW and massage shops should be operating. So there will be some action as TIT. The days after the election should be situation normal.
SL.
Nyezhov is correct about the Chinese brigade in Thermae (to be fair, I don't remember what percentage I would characterize as Japanese, Korean and / or Chinese) but there was a WALL of Asians (with what seemed to be heavy Chinese component, definitely not as heavily Japanese as in times prior that I have observed) doing the "moving wall in circles"while ogling last night. There was some minor shoving against me, but I kept my cool and kept in mind the cultural differences about personal space and jostling.
I found the talent inside though disappointing, generally speaking (as most often seems to be the case). I also saw what appeared to be the "same" girls in there I have seen before. So much for "freelancers" (there are some in there who may come in on a weekend) but I think most of the girls literally "work" at Thermae every night. There was one very attractive girl with a Japanese guy about a block down as I approached, so I am guessing he grabbed her from Thermae minutes beforehand? (but very few hotties inside, IMO anyways).
BTW. I never realized the "bar scene" on Soi 22? (usually do not walk down that far). (boy, some of the women down there were old / rough looking).
Banana Boi
03-03-19, 12:19
Just curious but were any of these Chinese actually selecting girls or did they just go in to waste space like they do on Walking Street in Pattaya. At times I find it difficult to differentiate between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans until they speak. I remember asking a gogo girl once and she explained it this way. Japanese are Koreans who dress cooler, or was it the other way around?
Yes, if you are a regular at Thermae you will get bored of the lineup. Same girls.
Just curious but were any of these Chinese actually selecting girls or did they just go in to waste space like they do on Walking Street in Pattaya. At times I find it difficult to differentiate between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans until they speak. I remember asking a gogo girl once and she explained it this way. Japanese are Koreans who dress cooler, or was it the other way around?
Yes, if you are a regular at Thermae you will get bored of the lineup. Same girls.Some were. (walking up to talk to girls, etc) but it seemed to be more of an ogling parade around the premises. To be fair, only stayed several minutes and didn't analyze this phenomenon more closely.
One has always noticed this circular movement of the Asian clientele around Thermae, as they check out the girls (and of course, the girls smile, giggle and wave to them), but there was definitely more of a "mass", more "densely packed" component there last night, which caught my attention / memory when I read Nyezhov's post.
Probably just a temporary singular thing? I dunno. Just caught my eye as well.
I can usually do fairly well in telling those three ethnicities apart (though it would be harder if they were ___-American, because then the mannerisms, clothing, etc would be far more similar)
I can't say I paid attention to the ethnicities at the time, but it definitely seemed not as heavily Japanese as at other times, leaving the other 2.. (and I can usually spot Koreans more easily,) ..
If I HAD to bet, I would say Chinese.
re gogo girl comment - IMO I would say Japanese .. (dressed "cooler" , but "coolness" can be very subjective, and Korean pop culture dominates more than any other , aka "hallyu" in SE Asia. but it's not Korean boybands who come to Thermae. I'd say above 30yrd, certainly 35 yrs old - (Japanese older men dress way cooler)
Just curious but were any of these Chinese actually selecting girls or did they just go in to waste space like they do on Walking Street in Pattaya. At times I find it difficult to differentiate between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans until they speak. I remember asking a gogo girl once and she explained it this way. Japanese are Koreans who dress cooler, or was it the other way around?There are 3 countries that are Chinese, China, HK, and Taiwan. They are not the same but they probably will all agree Korean and Japanese dress better. I think Korean has a stronger pop cultural influence in Asia currently.
I don't know the percentage. I read in Chinese forums, sometimes I see posters mention like there were 90% Chinese in there. I know it is an exaggeration but there must be a lot of Chinese in Thermae. Also, Chinese have sex tour groups arranged by travel agent, not sure how many are there, so I won't be surprised to see large group sometimes. The tour group will also engage in group sex, often in large Jacuzzi room inside a soapy.
LittleBigMan
03-03-19, 14:28
I grew up spending many parts of my summer in Hong Kong in mid 60's after I had got my cherry popped and made it a regular vacation spot while working there were number of times I with my Hong Kong cousins went into China tough for me to explain but in many ways they are like the Indians we talk about on Walking St. Grouping up like little kids around the freelancers but they instead it is done inside a GoGo, as the economy gets better more and more Chinese males are now coming in smaller groups than what we see in the tour buses types. We use to hear a lot of stories of the lack of manners at the food buffets basically this is what is happening with some groups in the GoGo and mentioned in Thermae.
I can't remember the GoGo, I think it was Ninja a few months back, in general, a pack of Chinese came in while the waiter or waitress try to seat them they walk around and around there is always one or two of them who think they know everything the ropes standing in front of the stage with a cig in their hands blocking the view as if they are VIP. The scene I describe reminded me the first time my cousin took me to Korean to get my cherry popped in the mid 60's they use to call these tours to Korea " Goodie tours out of HK " when we get to the ***** complex we be sitting there all like little kids waiting for the roller coaster ride while the tour guy tries to get us to pick.
A few years back I noticed at Bacarra there was more Chinese mainland coming into Bacarra sat next to a number of them but these were in groups of 2-4 I could tell they were more high rollers types more education well rounded today they are the bus tour version. In the beginning, the girls seem excited because they spend like the Japanese and Koreans but now they are sour some. Today when I visit our conversation the girls tell me lots of Chinese " like you " I look at them smiling and reply " I'm not one of them I'm made in the USA A ".
BTW. I never realized the "bar scene" on Soi 22? (usually do not walk down that far). (boy, some of the women down there were old / rough looking).I agree. My few surveys of Soi 22 bars and MPs (including sub sois), I always found it very hard to find much in the way of slim pretty girls. Definitely a place for the less picky Expats, I would think. Never really wanted to stay on that Soi.
Are there any exception places? Otherwise I would tend to dub it "Ugly Girls Soi".
I used to go see June at Bongkot but that was long ago, and it closed. I did not see that Bongkot had any other decent girls anyway.
Hello fellow mongers,
I will be traveling to BKK during elections time (arriving on Election Day, March 23th and leaving on the 27th). Do you guys think it'll be safe mongering (planning on hitting nana, few clubs, and maybe few escorts) or should I cancel the trip altogether.
Help a brother out.
Thanks everyone!WTF? Elections? Who gives a shit? Does anyone consider Thailand to be a dangerous place? I don't think so. I never had cause to stay away. Just don't go looking for trouble. Stay away from any mob demonstrations should there be any. None of us can predict the future accurately.
I was in Bangkok during curfews before. No big deal.
I believe the above Sections are all about loitering in a public place in order to engage in prostitution, advertising for it, publicly promoting it, "pimping" for it and so on but not about the act of prostitution itself. So the girls standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot will scatter or vanish when the police show up to check for visa violations or age violations in the Plaza because they can be busted for standing in front of the Nana Hotel parking lot soliciting for prostitution. However, there does not appear to me to be any reason for them to worry about being busted for the actual exchange of sex for money (or for the customer giving them money for sex) in a customer's hotel room or apartment.
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Good analysis I think. I think it is all about Thailand cleaning up its "image", so about what blatant things are out in the open offending some tourists and bible bashers.
Thailand has to have the image of being non sex trafficking so a huge emphasis on under the age girls, and Foreign girls (not Thai citizens).
What goes on behind closed doors can still be very raunchy. I have done girls in all categories except for the Lady Boys don't interest me. I need real pussy. I was never that keen on Nataree before it was closed, as always had the feeling the girls might not be there of free will. Not many great passionate girls met there and many were clueless about how to make good sex.
Never will we see that day that girls cannot sell sex, in Thailand in practical terms. Even the Thai politicians have been known to visit their hookers or 2nd wives.
Was a slow night at Thermae tonight. Not many clients, and a higher farang to Asian ratio than usual. In fact, four farangs formed a circle talking to each and drinking beer flat in the middle of the walking lane.
(blocking everything).
Idiots. Would have loved to see that tactic last night.
I was walking through Soi Cowboy last night about 9:15 PM and, lo and behold, the new "Crazy House 2" bar at the corner of Soi 23 was open for business! Except it isn't called "Crazy House 2". It is called Kozy Kazy. Whatever that means. And we thought the Crazy House/Crazy Horse confusion was annoying.
...After a second look I see I was the first poster here to add to the annoying confusion over the name of this bar. It is Kazy Kozy, not Kozy Kazy.
Good analysis I think. I think it is all about Thailand cleaning up its "image", so about what blatant things are out in the open offending some tourists and bible bashers.
Thailand has to have the image of being non sex trafficking so a huge emphasis on under the age girls, and Foreign girls (not Thai citizens).
What goes on behind closed doors can still be very raunchy. I have done girls in all categories except for the Lady Boys don't interest me. I need real pussy. I was never that keen on Nataree before it was closed, as always had the feeling the girls might not be there of free will. Not many great passionate girls met there and many were clueless about how to make good sex.
Never will we see that day that girls cannot sell sex, in Thailand in practical terms. Even the Thai politicians have been known to visit their hookers or 2nd wives.Yes, those Sections in the Thai Criminal Code come very close to stating prostitution is illegal without ever actually saying so (for a provider over age 18) and that is why the debate about it often pops up I think. They are only talking about promoting it openly, publicly. And also that paying money for sex with a girl (person) under the age of 18 is illegal.
The age part of it is also where the age of consent in Thailand gets muddy. As far as I can tell, the age of consent in Thailand is 15, not 18, but sources might disagree or be unclear about it. HOWEVER, if an offer of money is made to someone 15, 16 or 17 years old in exchange for sex then the Sections regarding prostitution are clear that a crime has been committed. It seems to accept that engaging in sex with someone 15, 16 or 17 is not in itself illegal, only if done in exchange for money. But it does not explicitly say so.
I had a brief stop over, yes one night in Bangkok!
I echo what's already been said, the go-go bars in Soi Cowboy are a waste of time, making money from entry fees and high drink prices. No character, no charm. Avoid IMHO. Similarly, the bars with girls in are all set up for the same. Bar fine, lady drinks etc It's all about the transaction and the one shot and back in the bar.
After a bit of aimless wondering around I stepped into Soi 7, there were tuk-tuk bars and a bunch of African ladies milling about. About halfway down there's a pub called Beer Garden. It's quite big and open, but a little dated. Oh and no actual garden, there is beer though! Anyway, there's no entry fee, a beer is just 85 bht, no loud music and a bunch of free lancers. Mostly 5's and MILFs but enough 6's and 7's to make it worth it. There are no lady drinks and no pressure. You sit and chat (music is not loud) and really get to know the ladies. Quite refreshing for Bangkok! Long story short, I picked up a MILF (40 yrs, but in good condition, looked 30) and she offered to take me on a bit of a tour around Soi 4, some pool and some dancing. It was more like a date, she offered to come back with me for 2,000 bht, I countered with 1,500 and she accepted (it was a slow Sunday night). Service and attitude were great and she stayed until morning. No rush at all. If it wasn't for this chance encounter, I would have dismissed Bangkok altogether.
I think if we can all support places like the Beer Garden, the stock will get better over time and cut out the middle man that just serves to take money without good service.
Was a slow night at Thermae tonight. Not many clients, and a higher farang to Asian ratio than usual. In fact, four farangs formed a circle talking to each and drinking beer flat in the middle of the walking lane.
(blocking everything).
Idiots. Would have loved to see that tactic last night.Thermae used to be my main hangout for years, up until 2006. I averaged 4 nights a week there. We still go in there as a group occasionally and we stand in a circle and talk where ever we can find some space. Sometimes gals get annoyed that we are blocking their site lines, but hey, we are paying customers and they are not. We've had a few get lippy, with us and we get lippy (in Thai) right back, but they usually shut their yappers when the wait staff who we have known for 20 years come over to talk to us. And hey, the Asian dudes will walk around you. Wonder how hard it would be to get them to reverse course? We find the entire scene quite comical. In many ways it is even more the Star Wars bar now than it was in the early 00's. Some of the worst dressed dudes you will ever see. We have nicknames for some of the regulars! But it's always a hoot. And it can be fun to watch the gals work. Personally I have not pulled from there in over 10 years and wouldn't.
The age part of it is also where the age of consent in Thailand gets muddy. As far as I can tell, the age of consent in Thailand is 15, not 18, but sources might disagree or be unclear about it. HOWEVER, if an offer of money is made to someone 15, 16 or 17 years old in exchange for sex then the Sections regarding prostitution are clear that a crime has been committed. It seems to accept that engaging in sex with someone 15, 16 or 17 is not in itself illegal, only if done in exchange for money. But it does not explicitly say so.Most of us here for many years will have done some girl less than 18 quite accidentally without having a clue how old she was. So extra care maybe needed depending on the source of the girl. In odd case I found out later that girl was younger than I thought (seemed fully mature to me), but was always the case she wanted it. Amazing high tits with zero sag can be a clue a girl is not that aged yet.
What particularly tricked me was that mothers could still be under 18, with some tit sag and certainly a well used pussy, and not allowed to sell sex, legally. So no way to support the baby. Seems a little unfair these girls are discriminated against, yet no one stopped them from getting pregnant and having a baby with the father no where to be seen to give support.
I don't discriminate about girls by their age myself. If they are hot and look good (not under developed children at all), I don't care what the age is, except for being supposed to make sure they are 18. All my favourites are far above 18, some nearly 40, but meet a new girl, its hard to be sure. I don't think I ever fucked a girl over 50 to my knowledge, but again we don't always know.
I was walking through Soi Cowboy last night about 9:15 PM and, lo and behold, the new "Crazy House 2" bar at the corner of Soi 23 was open for business! Except it isn't called "Crazy House 2". It is called Kozy Kazy. Whatever that means. And we thought the Crazy House/Crazy Horse confusion was annoying.
Long time rumoured to be coming and I presume has replaced Old Dutch, whose lease finally expired. Never liked their food really. Could be wrong but that is what was on the Cowboy side of Crazy House, that might have been available.
Nah, who cares what the name is, as long as we can get it right. Ha ha. Not easy. Thais could easily spell a name wrong! Crazy House was easy, no confusion there.
I was always amazed how few guys could quote the MP "Can Cam" correctly. But short for Candid Camera. If I can sort out any meaning behind the CH2 name, and how pronounced, I will post later. Probably have a look tonight, why not? Interesting to see if they have stupid Coyotes or not, Pretty nudes or not? Or no business as yet. Music okay Or woeful?
Over history, bars have not always been able to choose or change names as they please. Legal reasons concerning the official name on the lease apparently. This has caused some bars to have more than one name I think. Isn't Long Gun also called "Lone Star"? Suzie Wong is still called Suzie Wong despite being taken over by the Baccarat chain. Five Star remains Five Star despite take over by Crazy also.
FlAdventurer
03-05-19, 12:06
Guys,
I have chased tail in Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Czech Republic, and all over Hungary. I know the lay of the land there but not here.
Met a 36 year old good looking nice bodied gal today on Tinder and she and I spent 90 minutes at my hotel. She came to me and we went through all the positions, had a great time, and talked a lot about her life. She just moved back from a failed business and divorce in Singapore, but is Thai.
She was somewhat shy throughout, except for the act and then she was a horny women, and at the end left it open to what I should pay. I ended up giving her 3,000 Baht. She was very happy. Did I overpay or was I in the ballpark? I am staying at The Peninsula so that was working against me.
Thanks in advance.
I had a brief stop over, yes one night in Bangkok!
I think if we can all support places like the Beer Garden, the stock will get better over time and cut out the middle man that just serves to take money without good service.Biergarden on Soi 7 has been around forever. It can be called a Bangkok institution.
However, the area around it has changed and the clientele in the area has changed. 20 years ago Biergarden was home to the old farangs who still made up a sizeable chunk of the tourist and expat population on lower Suhmuvit.
They have now been completely replaced by a much younger crowd (both expat and tourist) and a higher spending crowd, with businesses and girls catering to this new population.
Biergarden was always a late afternoon / early evening "option" on the Bangkok buffet, staffed with older / less desirable women (though I suppose a gem can always still be found).
Haven't been there in ages, so I have no idea how business is these days.
Anyways, I don't think any "drive" on this board will really help Biergarden one way or the other. If you want to cut out the middle man, you can use social media (to an extent), but don't expect significantly lower prices. The girls still take the prevailing prices (not all that different than at a gogo)
Anyways, I don't think any "drive" on this board will really help Biergarden one way or the other. Yes never was a Bier Garten customer Soi 7 and will be hard to entice me unless the standard improved a lot. Probably every year I take a peak at this venue or once in two years, and yet to be impressed ever. Maybe an acceptable girl with a customer already on occasions.
Different guys have very made up minds about where can find talent and where we cannot, and we all disagree, somewhat. Will be hard to shake me from wanting to see girls very scantily clad before taking the risk, unless they are extremely hot and pretty, and very good price. I hate well covered up girls. I like to be fairly sure what is the body I am getting, very difficult with push up bras on.
I have a set of regular girls of a high standard for me, in fun, enthusiasm and looks. I don't like to drop that standard.
One girl I know says she gets more business standing on Soi 4, because she is hotter than the normal girls there, so does not waste her time at Beer Garden. It is probably true that girls who want low time wastage would not be there.
Hi all,
As always, thanks to the regulars for being a constant source of entertainment, information and annoyance.
Unfortunately I was only in Bangkok for 3 days, so didn't get a chance to sample much beyond my immediate surroundings.
BJ Bars:
Wood Bar: 1 k, reasonably attractive girls and allows you to do a lineup of all the girls rather than the way some just have the girl whose turn it is follow you inside. Whilst I'm sure at others you can always ask, I'm a creature of societal politeness, and unless she's really ugly, tend not to. I like being offered a lineup without having to ask for it. Stalls upstairs are a little dated but I'm not there for the ambience, and they're not disgusting. I picked Stacey who was reasonably attractive, 30 odd and a skilled provider. Also kinda crazy but in a cute way! Would return if I had more time.
Duang Porn Heaven: I think it was 800, but tbh I was quite drunk and I don't remember much apart from lacklustre older girls and dated furnishings. When walking in I made contact with a girl whose name I can't remember. I think she was the cutest, wore big glasses. Gave good service. Wouldn't go back any time soon.
7 Heaven: Pricier, but for a reason. The girls are young and hot, or at least seemed so on the iPad. (how you select the girls). There's also more foreplay, they'll kiss your nipples and neck etc. It's a nice experience, worth the 1. 3 k if you're a 3 day trillionaire like me. The rooms are standard massage rooms. No full service available here, and costs extra for girls to be nude, COF, 69 etc. But it is nicely arranged on a menu so there's no confusion! After checking the photos on the website I think I took Nan but can't be 100% sure. She gave good service, although, like all the above girls, never went beyond halfway (I'm slightly above average at 6.5', but probably slightly below average in girth).
Apparently if you come within the first 10 minutes the girl will try and make you come again. Not sure how likely this would be considering there's at least 5 minutes of foreplay then 5 minutes of light stimulation.
Massage:
I only went to Doki Doki, which lived up to expectations. I took the 90 minute options for 3.5 k and was with Nana (again, you pick off an iPad. Pics seemed to match) who I'm conflicted about. On one hand she gave great service, with good BBJ, rimming, toe sucking, long massage and full service, but it was quite transactional. She had a big Bush if that's a turn off for anyone, but I assume that is standard being that this is a Japanese place. She also wouldn't allow doggy, saying I was too big, which unfortunately seemed to be a trend on this trip.
Saying that, I would highly recommend the shop. Seems the girls are trained well, they have their routines down pat and you'll cum at least once. I probably could've come during the initial 'tromboning' but held off. I'm 99% sure she would've kept massaging me and got me hard again if I had.
Overall, a good experience, and I would return if I had more time, but probably choose a different girl.
Gogo reviews to come.
I had a brief stop over, yes one night in Bangkok!
I echo what's already been said, the go-go bars in Soi Cowboy are a waste of time, making money from entry fees and high drink prices. No character, no charm. Avoid IMHO. Similarly, the bars with girls in are all set up for the same. Bar fine, lady drinks etc It's all about the transaction and the one shot and back in the bar.
After a bit of aimless wondering around I stepped into Soi 7, there were tuk-tuk bars and a bunch of African ladies milling about. About halfway down there's a pub called Beer Garden. It's quite big and open, but a little dated. Oh and no actual garden, there is beer though! Anyway, there's no entry fee, a beer is just 85 bht, no loud music and a bunch of free lancers. Mostly 5's and MILFs but enough 6's and 7's to make it worth it. There are no lady drinks and no pressure. You sit and chat (music is not loud) and really get to know the ladies. Quite refreshing for Bangkok! Long story short, I picked up a MILF (40 yrs, but in good condition, looked 30) and she offered to take me on a bit of a tour around Soi 4, some pool and some dancing. It was more like a date, she offered to come back with me for 2,000 bht, I countered with 1,500 and she accepted (it was a slow Sunday night). Service and attitude were great and she stayed until morning. No rush at all. If it wasn't for this chance encounter, I would have dismissed Bangkok altogether.
I think if we can all support places like the Beer Garden, the stock will get better over time and cut out the middle man that just serves to take money without good service.I can understand you my friend. More freelancers bars in Bangkok would be great. I truly miss something like Billabong in LK Metro, Pattaya. I would suggest you try Country Road in Soi Cowboy. They have a few girls there connected to they bar, but they can be barfined. Quality is a little better than Beer Garden soi 7 and you get live rock if you are into that. It is probably a bit harsh to call go-go's a "middle man" since they will offer dancing girls for you to oogle, some dance naked, some performe a show etc. So there is something added to the experience, if you are into it. Quality of girls are generally better than what you will find in Beer Garden. But the glaring car alarm music is what often keep me away. Would be better with more variation on the bars. Last week I was sipping peacefully on a beer around 6 pm outside entrance to Penny Black in Soi Cowboy. Sat with a girl working in one of the go-go's. A couple of guys that I thought were watch-sellers caught my attention. They had no watches with them. Only big waist bags. The girl called them "bank" - or at least that is how I interpreted it. She told me they offer short term loans to the girls working in the bars, staff, the food vendors etc. With very high interest rates. They look like Indians or Pakistani. They tried to get in contact with a girl inside Five Start bar, obviously looking for a repayment of a small loan. They were stopped by the doorman and was not allowed inside. This was new info to me, but such things you can learn when observing in the late evening / early night. Is this activity legal in Thailand or is it sort of "grey bank market" ?
Long time rumoured to be coming and I presume has replaced Old Dutch, whose lease finally expired. Never liked their food really. Could be wrong but that is what was on the Cowboy side of Crazy House, that might have been available.
Nah, who cares what the name is, as long as we can get it right. Ha ha. Not easy. Thais could easily spell a name wrong! Crazy House was easy, no confusion there.
I was always amazed how few guys could quote the MP "Can Cam" correctly. But short for Candid Camera. If I can sort out any meaning behind the CH2 name, and how pronounced, I will post later. Probably have a look tonight, why not? Interesting to see if they have stupid Coyotes or not, Pretty nudes or not? Or no business as yet. Music okay Or woeful?
Over history, bars have not always been able to choose or change names as they please. Legal reasons concerning the official name on the lease apparently. This has caused some bars to have more than one name I think. Isn't Long Gun also called "Lone Star"? Suzie Wong is still called Suzie Wong despite being taken over by the Baccarat chain. Five Star remains Five Star despite take over by Crazy also.Nope Long Gun was actually "Lucky Star".
All hopes of checking the music at Kazy Kozy were dashed pretty quick. Wasn't interesting enough to stay that long. Not at all similar to the early days at Crazy House. "Kazy" looks like "Crazy" spelled rather strange, and Kozy is like (Cozy or Cosy) the upstairs part. Upstairs is rumoured to become like penny Black Upstairs with a bit of a Karaoke club. Downstairs had about 5 girls dancing at 8 pm, all in pink leather look outfits like cowgirls with no hats. Far too over dressed for me. The lighting was poor flashing lights, but overall too dark for me. Looked in Five Star. Plenty of naked dancers but only one real hottie in the slim category (face not quite for me). The real hottie that 5 Star used to have that I took a couple of times is gone. A Farang is looking after her now. No big surprise. She had a good face and fabulous tight curvy body, tight pussy, no flaws and was a cooperative fuck, although not at all passionate. Great doggy with her was memorable. One older girl in 5 Star had a good face, but had apparently paid 100K (by the gossip) for a rather ordinary pair of small coconut like implants. Not impressed at all. Waste of good money I reckon. Can't they get a teardrop job at 100K? Maybe they were just too new and have not dropped a bit yet.
Crazy House has very few really pretty girls these days if we take the face. A few good naked bodies. So saw some nice ass and pussy. That's it. Not close to Crazy 5 years ago when it opened. The waitress wanted me to take her. Her face is okay (one of the better ones) but of course I never got to check out her body. So no deal. Maybe I can buy her a drink and feel her up next time to see if the body is okay I can't see anything wrong, but clothes on makes it hard. Never really tried to check out her ass and tits before. I wonder why she doesn't dance if she wants to go with customer.
I see another Ladyboy bar has opened next to Doll House. Shit even very few girls out the front of bars looked good to me. The Cowboy is dying gradually I think. Okay One girl in front of Long Gun looked cute. I could check her out another day.
Meanwhile I can just try to get my ex Crazy girl now doing studies, or get my Sharks girls for private meetings. The bars are getting even more boring than they used to be.
Recently stupidly missed a great opportunity at the Red Cross. Fancied a tall girl their getting her results, a lot. At first slightly concerned if was a Ladyboy as I think about 5 foot 9 in flat flip flops. Still some Udon girls are like that. Nothing was masculine about her including small jaw and good cheek bones upturned nose.
I was ready to go home so went out to get a motorcycle taxi and she was talking to the motorcycle driver. No deal so I got the motorcycle instead. Turned out she had wanted to go to Silom but did not have sufficient money, the motorcycle guy tells me because I asked about if she was a real girl. I missed a fantastic chance to pay for her ride, and give my phone number in case her need for funds became more pressing. I could have brazenly asked her problem when she walked away from the motorcycle. Dumb ass! Way better natural looks than the Cowboy girls I saw tonight, or so it seemed at the time.
Yes never was a Bier Garten customer Soi 7 and will be hard to entice me unless the standard improved a lot. Probably every year I take a peak at this venue or once in two years, and yet to be impressed ever. Maybe an acceptable girl with a customer already on occasions.
...I hadn't gone to Beer Garden Soi 7 to check out a possible P4P lady in at least a year because my success rate in scoring a required True GFE (for me that is either BBFS+CIP or a BBBJ+CIM) with an attractive lady in there has been 0 for 25 or so attempts in the 6-7 years I have lived less than a 15 minute walk from the place. By "attempts" I mean around 22 chats about it in the bar and 3 "go with the flow" take outs where not one of the three wound up producing a pleasant surprise outcome in my room. Missions aborted. I paid the full 1000-1500 baht anyway since I had not specified what I needed before leaving with them. Actually, one did agree in the bar to a BBBJ+CIM but in the room she converted it into a HJ with some oral foreplay thrown in so I suppose we could say she is the one who aborted that mission, not me.
But I happened to pop in just for the hell of it about two weeks ago and DID sit next to one of those rare attractive late 30's year old ladies that can sometimes be found there. Bought her a drink, chatted and kept her laughing with banter for about 30 minutes, learned all about her family, kids, needs.
Got to the particulars for what it would take for me to agree to walk out with her and pay her some greatly needed baht and, true to form for me, this Beer Garden Soi 7 lady became #26 on the "No and No" side of the score card. LOL.
Weird place for me. I just can't seem to find an attractive lady in there who will agree to provide EITHER of those (for me) True GFEs for any amount of money. Well, I have never offered some ridiculous amount of baht. But no lady there has so much as asked "How much you pay me?" in response to the topic so there was no reason to vary from the assumed going rates. I might have offered more than 1500-2000 baht just to break the curse. But it never even went there in the bar discussion.
By contrast, I have taken 2 different go-go dancers from 2 different Soi Cowboy bars in the past couple of weeks, can easily succeed with most Nana Plaza go-go dancers I approach any week, all agreeing upfront in the bar to BBFS+CIP (once they agree to that I don't even bring up the BBBJ+CIM option).
Sure, the going rate for the go-go girls is 2-3 times the going rate for Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies. But they are also much younger and much hotter than any of the Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies who said "No and No" to me over the years.
No great loss. I just find the difference in my success rate between over the hill Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies perched on barstools and slim, early 20's hot go-go dancers to be curious. My rate of success with younger and better looking Thermae girls is far better than with Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies!
5 March daytrip.
Just arrived today in BKK flying from Qatar airways. Superb airplane, very comfo, even better than thair airways IMO. But no direct connection from Brussels to BKK and it was lacking in TV content (did pick up the green book movie). The arrival date was delayed up to 6 hours! Normally would arrive 6 am, but it was near noon.
Exchange money euros at super rich is at 35,80. The lowest I have ever encountered. I realized my holiday would suffer from this. I usually take 1 month holiday between 5 to 10.000 euros.
I decided not to check to BKK ago go bars and pay the outrageous prices for a girl that's not even guaranteed for good sex.
I met up with a non prostitute girl and tried to bring her to my hotel, but I have failed. I was sleepy and tired, wasn't quite myself and couldn't charm her back to my room. That was a full waste of 3 hours. She wanted to meet me again tomorrow, so hopefully I have better luck at plowing her. She has that extremely skinny body which I like.
Around 5 pm, I headed towards wood bar. I visit wood bar every day during my trip in BKK, because I always get the best blowjobs for a reasonable price (1 k baath).
There was about 7 girls working, a lot less ugly than what I used to (but we don't come here for the looks right), and I chose a girl named "Lilly" of the letter q (although they weren't wearing letters that time). She has thick glasses on, but she is definitely not the Q I know from Laos, a thick girl with thick black glasses who hardly spoke English. I miss her a lot and even lost her phone number, bc she is my all time best in giving blowjobs. I hope I will encounter her again. This different q girl however, had perplexed me. She was really on par with the old Q! Is q my lucky number? She asked if I liked it slow or fast and I said, build it up slow and then finish fast. I shit you not, 70% of the time she was really getting into my anus. I didn't even ask for this, but she was eager for it. I'm starting to think this girl really enjoys rimming. And she goes very deep and even let herself pushed further with my hand. She tends to jerk off and lick the ass simultaneously and does jerk off while sucking, so she doesn't perform a non hands blowjob to her liking. Of course she would listen to you if you insisted with no hands, but I'm guessing she would be bad at it. After I came, she said to me, wait 5 more minutes and I do again. I said LOL, no thanks, you gave me a great time and ill see you again in 2 hours. I gave her no additional tips, bc I planned to book her again 2 more times and I did LOL. Second session was a whole lot more ass play, the hoe really really digs it and I'm a sucker for it.
And its 00 am here, so ill be heading for my third shortly. This was my BKK trip for today, just getting my ass cleaned by 1000 baath per time. That's a bargain LOL.
I hang out around Nana hotel to look for my freelancer but she wasn't there (19 year old fern, no deaf mute). I know she is still there bc you can see her in the latest Bangkok 112 video. Hopefully will see her tomorrow, bc I will be heading out to Pattaya midnight.
I went inside twister a go go bar (Bangkok bunnies last time I went), it was more of an habit and didn't plan to barfine a girl. There were some hotties out and inside was dead (around 8/9 pm). But yeah, I'm done with the a go go scene.
Tomorrow another BKK trip planned and it will be mostly the BJ bars. Really don't want to spend more than 1500 on a girl, so I will be ignoring the massage parlors as well. Its freelance time this time.
I have my holiday planned till 27 March and will post daily reports.
I'm alone till the 12th and then my friend will tag along in Pattaya. She likes tattoo chicks so I want to surprise him with the craziest tattoo chick, maybe nut from sapphire.
Total spend (not including hotel).
7000 baath and lost 3 k for sex related.
Member #4698
03-05-19, 19:12
Yes never was a Bier Garten customer Soi 7 and will be hard to entice me unless the standard improved a lot. Probably every year I take a peak at this venue or once in two years, and yet to be impressed ever. Maybe an acceptable girl with a customer already on occasions.
I hadn't gone to Beer Garden Soi 7 to check out a possible P4P lady in at least a year because my success rate in scoring a required True GFE (for me that is either BBFS+CIP or a BBBJ+CIM) with an attractive lady in there has been 0 for 25 or so attempts in the 6-7 years I have lived less than a 15 minute walk from the place.
Sure, the going rate for the go-go girls is 2-3 times the going rate for Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies. But they are also much younger and much hotter than any of the Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies who said "No and No" to me over the years.
No great loss. I just find the difference in my success rate between over the hill Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies perched on barstools and slim, early 20's hot go-go dancers to be curious. My rate of success with younger and better looking Thermae girls is far better than with Beer Garden Soi 7 ladies!I have never been a Bier Garten customer. I mean I have never taken a Bier Garten girl out of the bar. The quality there never moved me. Thus, the last time I was there must have been 4 or 5 years ago and since I have not heard of any improvements in quality, I see no point in going back. But I have nothing against 30 something girls. I like 30 something girls even though it is a given that they are not my favorite age demographic. The 22 to 26-year old category is my favorite group, followed closely by 18 to 22-year old category, my 2nd favorite age group, but as long as a 30 something girl has a pretty face, a still slim, firm body, and a friendly demeaner; I will take her out and reap the benefits. Ha Ha.
So in the same price range / same age demographic, I think you can do better in FL bars like the Hillary Bars, Morning Night bar ect, or even the Soi 22 bars. And for a little more money you can find 30 somethings in the Go Go's. For example Baccara and Shark have a few very friendly, doable hostess girls available for takeout. Personally I have had the pleasure of a certain Shark Hostess girl a couple of times. She is a very nice girl. I also did a swan song session with an old favorite Baccara dancer just before she retired from the business and went back home. She was so horny and would hardly let me take a breath of air while I was licking her pussy until after she came. That was a fond memory although more memorable were the nights that occurred 6 years earlier when I first met her and she was really sexy, full of life, aiming to please, little Go Go dancer. Thai girls can age quickly, too quickly in some cases.
Then on my last BKK trip, I met a 30 something spinner in Twister believe it or not. I could not believe she was 35, she looked so much younger, but the main thing was she was still put together nicely and she was very, very enthusiastic (grateful & horny - bareback horny, EihTooms) in bed. So I had a great time with her although I decided later not to have a repeat due to the sheer number of sexy younger girls available. I have also had some fun with 30 something FL's in Spasso where many of the FL's are in the same age bracket as Bier Garten gals, but look sooooo much better IMHO and they are a lot more expensive obviously.
So everybody has different tastes. I won't knock Bier Garten girls too much. I am glad the bar still exists. My point is that there are a lot of places to find still attractive 30 something girls in BKK at various price points - high and low. Just look around. They are all over the place.
I have never been a Bier Garten customer. I mean I have never taken a Bier Garten girl out of the bar. The quality there never moved me. .Hi Natty,
Yes, the quality is not always that good but the price is right. I have had several girls from Biergarten including a real busty one that I saw several times. Lost her number and geez I miss her. Man, she gave me a body bath with her tongue that was incredible.
I hadn't gone to Beer Garden Soi 7 to check out a possible P4P lady in at least a year because my success rate in scoring a required True GFE (for me that is either BBFS+CIP or a BBBJ+CIM) with an attractive lady in there has been 0 for 25 or so attempts in the 6-7 years I have lived less than a 15 minute walk from the place. Just out of curiosity, I have taken girls from street in Soi 4 and outside bars in Soi 4 so considered them better talent than beer Garden. However not great success rates with girls on the street in Soi 4 for getting a great GFE, but possible. So I wondered if you also had bad success rates on Soi 4 or better than beer garden? I did not try to get BBFS there so far, but had thought about it as an option, perhaps a risky one. I have got BB from more reliable sources who get tested for certain.
The risk is not my intended topic, but more like if get girls who give a really good time and possibly BBFS there.
My last attempt on Soi 4, the girl was skinny, quite stunning, very hot ass, and I think a deaf mute (signing), but she knocked me back and tried to push me onto her friend who was 2 or 3 points lower score for looks. Not sure why. My age maybe? Or perhaps she was not yet 18. I don't know. Could have been the bait and switch strategy. She could have communicated easy by typing Thai on her phone. When I can't get the best girl, I rarely settle on another inferior one.
(for me that is either BBFS+CIP or a BBBJ+CIM) In my opinion, CIP and/or CIM is a wasted effort. I like to video. If I don't cum on the girl's body or face, I don't even consider it to have been a sexual encounter. It's a turn on to see my jizz on the chick, why would I waste it in a place I can't see it?
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03-05-19, 21:23
In my opinion, CIP and/or CIM is a wasted effort. I like to video. If I don't cum on the girl's body or face, I don't even consider it to have been a sexual encounter. It's a turn on to see my jizz on the chick, why would I waste it in a place I can't see it?Smoothy, your post made me laugh. It is so completely opposite to my own deeply held feeling that CIM, cum anywhere except in the vagina is a waste of my precious bodily fluids. OK, I will concede that Cuming in a girl's ass hole is good too, although not as good as in her vagina unless her vagina is a cave. 555.
I think this whole take your dick out of her vagina so you can ejaculate on camera is total FAKE Hollywood. Originally it was only done in the porn videos to prove the sex was real. This is made clear in a scene from "Boogie Nights". Then somehow it caught on with a certain segment of the viewing public including YOU. LOL. No offence intended. I get it. You like to watch your own videos.
Anyway, when I am engaging in sexual congress, the last thing I want to do is break the rhythm/ break my feeling of euphoria and pull out to ejaculate during the last few seconds so's I can see my cum shoot all over a girl. Call me old school if you want, but I'm with Bill Clinton on this, it ain't sex if I don't cum in her vagina. (Just paraphrasing good ol' Bill, of course.) Opinions will vary.
Then somehow it caught on with a certain segment of the viewing public including YOU. I may have been conditioned by those pornos, I admit I have watched a few over the years.
The CIM thing I consider the biggest waste. You can easily pull out and shoot all over her face.
It's a little more effort to pull out of her pussy and cum on her face or body, but not that much. The videos I have where I cum inside the girl, I just delete them because I find them boring. It's extremely sexy to see a girl coated in cum.
Another reason it's better to finish outside is if you want a 2nd round. I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself.
Member #4698
03-05-19, 22:03
Hi Natty,
Yes, the quality is not always that good but the price is right. I have had several girls from Biergarten including a real busty one that I saw several times. Lost her number and geez I miss her. Man, she gave me a body bath with her tongue that was incredible.Hi D Cups, as I am sure you know, the prices are roughly equivalent for the girls in other drink bars. There is a lot to choose from in BKK and 30 something year old FL girls can be really nice and give excellent service.
On large breasted girls:
You know that most of the time I prefer small natural breasted, no fat, spinners, but when I was in Macau on the last leg of my 2018 trip and I selected a great looking, tall (5' 8") very thin, Chinese girl with LARGE NATURAL TITS. I think you would have liked her. I did. Great service and I repeated twice with her. Viva la variety!
Member #4698
03-05-19, 22:05
I may have been conditioned by those pornos, I admit I have watched a few over the years.
The CIM thing I consider the biggest waste. You can easily pull out and shoot all over her face.
It's a little more effort to pull out of her pussy and cum on her face or body, but not that much. The videos I have where I cum inside the girl, I just delete them because I find them boring. It's extremely sexy to see a girl coated in cum.
Another reason it's better to finish outside is if you want a 2nd round. I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself.Again I find humor in what you are saying. Example: "I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself." That is an instant classic. So rock on my friend! It's all good.
I too find it very hard to pull out of a pussy even when I promised a girl I would do so beforehand. One sweet little Pinay I knew smiled and said I was a "bad boy" when I failed to pull out of her the 1st time we were together. She apparently forgave me, however. We had several bareback sessions over the course of following week.
Again I find humor in what you are saying. Example: "I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself." That is an instant classic. So rock on my friend! It's all good.
I too find it very hard to pull out of a pussy even when I promised a girl I would do so beforehand. One sweet little Pinay I knew smiled and said I was a "bad boy" when I failed to pull out of her the 1st time we were together. She apparently forgave me, however. We had several bareback sessions over the course of following week.Thai girl are not so forgiving. I had this "accident" happen to me once, and it was honestly a complete accident.
The girl got seriously pissed at me (and I don't blame her). It took me some time to regain her trust, but we had known each other beforehand, so she could more readily accept my apologies and explanation that it was a complete accident.
I grew up spending many parts of my summer in Hong Kong in mid 60's after I had got my cherry popped and made it a regular vacation spot.............No f..king way!! You vacationed in World of Suzy Wong Hong Kong? The mongering there was reputed to have been the pinnacle of world 20th century mongering second possibly only to 1920's Berlin which was probably only raunchier. Ever since I was a lad in the 60's I had fantasized about being in early 60's Hong Kong, with loads of money of course.
Just out of curiosity, I have taken girls from street in Soi 4 and outside bars in Soi 4 so considered them better talent than beer Garden. However not great success rates with girls on the street in Soi 4 for getting a great GFE, but possible. So I wondered if you also had bad success rates on Soi 4 or better than beer garden? I did not try to get BBFS there so far, but had thought about it as an option, perhaps a risky one. I have got BB from more reliable sources who get tested for certain.
The risk is not my intended topic, but more like if get girls who give a really good time and possibly BBFS there.
My last attempt on Soi 4, the girl was skinny, quite stunning, very hot ass, and I think a deaf mute (signing), but she knocked me back and tried to push me onto her friend who was 2 or 3 points lower score for looks. Not sure why. My age maybe? Or perhaps she was not yet 18. I don't know. Could have been the bait and switch strategy. She could have communicated easy by typing Thai on her phone. When I can't get the best girl, I rarely settle on another inferior one.For what I term True GFE, particularly BBFS, I have had success on Soi 4, Sukhumvit, go-go bars, Thermae, on dating sites, beer bars and just meeting regular girls in restaurants and shopping malls. Where I have failed miserably is in massage shops (although I can improve my success rate if I take them OUT of the shop and bring them back to my room), Beer Garden Soi 7 and almost anywhere in Pattaya. LOL.
Mind you, my style is to get a BBFS+CIP agreement from the girl upfront or, as a possible fall back, a BBBJ+CIM agreement, before paying the barfine or taking the girl. I do not "go with the flow and see what happens in the room", although I am occasionally testing a new "go with the flow" method for just one venue; Thermae. But I'll save that for a different post. And, bear in mind, I have indeed had a vasectomy and will always have a recent HIV blood test document on hand to show IF the conversation goes there. It does on occasion.
I had estimated a few years ago that my success rate in getting EITHER a BBFS+CIP or a BBBJ+CIM with a suitably attractive girl by "going with the flow and see what happens in the room" and not getting an upfront agreement was no better than a dismal 20-25%. Which means a whopping 75%+ of the time I was going to wind up with no intercourse at all since engaging and finishing an act of vaginal intercourse wearing a condom has been impossible for me except for one time when I was about 20 years old, 45 years ago. Yet, not having confirmed anything upfront, I never felt I was entitled to withhold or drastically reduce payment of the going rate. After all, if I had not gotten an upfront agreement, I had no right to expect her to provide anything more than the general standard basic fare of lick around the edges, if that, cap on and proceed. I also had no right to think she'd misled me and withhold or reduce payment for that. She hadn't misled me if I hadn't told her the only two ways she could earn any money from me this night and held out for a clear agreement from her for it.
Anyway, I would say my success rate in getting girls to whom I am attracted and with whom I feel some essential sexual chemistry in those above venues to agree upfront to a True GFE (by far, mostly BBFS+CIP) and for a cost no more than, say, 500-1000 baht more than the going rate, is about 65-70%. 1000 baht more would be rare, but has happened. Most of the time it happens for no additional cost than the going rate. That is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of my "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" rate of success.
Here are a few things I have learned about getting a Thai P4P girl to agree upfront to BBFS+CIP with me (impossible for me to know how it is for others); Contrary to almost everything I'd heard and thought, it is EASIER to get it from younger, slimmer, better looking girls than from dumpy, older ladies. Contrary to almost everything I'd heard and thought, it is EASIER to get it from go-go dancers than from Freelancers on the street, girls in beer bars or those who work in massage shops, even the so-called PSE ones touted so highly for supposedly sex-crazed girls on these forums. Contrary to almost everything I'd heard and thought, it is EASIER to get it from better educated, more English-fluent girls than from the opposite types.
And on the Soi 4/Nana Hotel parking lot deaf girls option you mentioned, both of the two deaf girls I have approached and requested BBFS+CIP from in the past few months agreed to it for a higher fee. One agreed for 1,500 baht vs her opening quote of 1,000 baht. Another agreed for 2,500 baht! LOL. But I did not negotiate a better price with that one because I was so tickled and pleased with how quickly she changed her written starting point of 1,500 baht to 2,500 baht practically before I finished typing out the words "no condom" on my phone. I just laughed and mimed ok let's go.
However, I am not so interested in doing a deaf girl again. They're just too deep in another world and the sex was horribly mechanical. Maybe just two bad experiences. But they were enough to satisfy my curiosity.
In my opinion, CIP and/or CIM is a wasted effort. I like to video. If I don't cum on the girl's body or face, I don't even consider it to have been a sexual encounter. It's a turn on to see my jizz on the chick, why would I waste it in a place I can't see it?I can't get past the fact that in order to cum on a girl's body or face, I not only have to pull out of the very warm, wet, snug, wrap-around orifice that GOT me to the point of cumming in the first place and at the worst possible moment, but now I have to essentially jerk myself off to and through the finish in order to shoot it wherever my chosen target is this time. No matter how you look at it and where the cum lands, that's masturbation. And that is aside from the fact that I don't get a thrill out of seeing my cum ON a girl. Am even bored by the images of it in porn.
LOL. Hell, I hated and resented having to masturbate when there were few other financially viable and agreeable options back in the USA. No way will I settle for that now that I have uprooted my life, divested myself of most worldly possessions and separated myself from my old friends and relatives to live out this last quarter at best of my life in Bangkok!
However, different strokes for different folks, of course. Enjoy.
I have to essentially jerk myself off to and through the finish in order to shoot it wherever my chosen target is this time. No matter how you look at it and where the cum lands, that's masturbation. I often prefer a girl to suck my balls and tongue my ass while I jerk off, then cum in her face, over a straight BJ. Is it only masterbation if you also have a girl sucking your balls and sticking her tongue in you ass at the same time? I think not.
As far as pulling out just before cumming, it takes about 2 seconds after I pull out before I cum on the girl. That's far from masterbation.
I find cumming inside a girl to be anti-climactic. I need a grand finish for full satisfaction.
For what I term True GFE, particularly BBFS, I have had success on Soi 4, Sukhumvit, go-go bars, Thermae, on dating sites, beer bars and just meeting regular girls in restaurants and shopping malls.Mandarin bar in Nana Square. The girls there have always provided BBFS. The other bar is Sexy Nights in Nana Square.
I often prefer a girl to suck my balls and tongue my ass while I jerk off, then cum in her face, over a straight BJ. Is it only masterbation if you also have a girl sucking your balls and sticking her tongue in you ass at the same time? I think not.
...I would say yes, unless you can get off with just the ball sucking and rimming and your hand on your dick is only to keep it out of the way or something. Also, I'm guessing the girl has to stop sucking your balls and rimming your ass at the point of your orgasm in order to move into position to take the face shot you're going to give her from masturbating, right? Or you do the moving into position and thereby pull away from her mouth on your balls or anus. In which case, imo it is definitely masturbation but with some oral foreplay on adjacent areas thrown in.
See, I am a stickler for the sex act being defined by the way it ends exactly at the point of your orgasm, not by what happens before the end. Pretty much the way virtually all P4P girls define and charge for it.
Mandarin bar in Nana Square. The girls there have always provided BBFS. The other bar is Sexy Nights in Nana Square.Yes to both. But I have not pulled from Sexy Nights in ages. And I have had considerable success in Billboard, Twister BKK, Enter, Butterflies and Exotica in Nana Plaza, Long Gun, Suzie Wong and Cactus Bar on Soi Cowboy. Although I would not go so far as to suggest ALL the girls in any of those bars you and I mentioned will agree to it with me. Not even close. Only some.
And on the Soi 4/Nana Hotel parking lot deaf girls option you mentioned, both of the two deaf girls I have approached and requested BBFS+CIP from in the past few months agreed to it for a higher fee. One agreed for 1,500 baht vs her opening quote of 1,000 baht. Another agreed for 2,500 baht! LOL. But I did not negotiate a better price with that one because I was so tickled and pleased with how quickly she changed her written starting point of 1,500 baht to 2,500 baht practically before I finished typing out the words "no condom" on my phone. I just laughed and mimed ok let's go.
However, I am not so interested in doing a deaf girl again. They're just too deep in another world and the sex was horribly mechanical. Maybe just two bad experiences. But they were enough to satisfy my curiosity.Yes I was more interested in overall success rate, not specifically getting a BBFS, but getting a good experience on Soi 4. So horribly mechanical sounds like a miss to me. Success to me means would repeat it. I did not find a girl worth repeating that often on Soi 4. Thanks for the overall info. A useful post.
They day I wanted a signing girl, there were about 5 or 6 of them I think, certainly more than 2, so I think some were not the usual ones I have seen more regularly.
I find cumming inside a girl to be anti-climactic. I need a grand finish for full satisfaction.Quirky what turns guys on. While I have cum on the girl's body many times, it does absolutely zero for my satisfaction levels. It is just messy muck to be cleaned up to me. Like ET, I would enjoy CIP more so. Never wanted to COF at all. It shows a need to degrade the girl.
Yes I was more interested in overall success rate, not specifically getting a BBFS, but getting a good experience on Soi 4. So horribly mechanical sounds like a miss to me. Success to me means would repeat it. I did not find a girl worth repeating that often on Soi 4. Thanks for the overall info. A useful post.
They day I wanted a signing girl, there were about 5 or 6 of them I think, certainly more than 2, so I think some were not the usual ones I have seen more regularly.Yeah, I would be a bad source to determine probable success rates for more or less ordinary basic Thai P4P fare of covered vaginal intercourse and possibly BBBJ only as foreplay but no genuine CIM finish. I have simply never searched for, approached for, negotiated for nor accepted such a thing from a P4P girl of any age, weight, height, shape or level of attractiveness. It would be a total waste of my time to accept such a thing from even the most beautiful 19 year old Thai girl in Bangkok even for as little as 100 baht.
Being on the far more problematic extreme of the industry in that way, frankly I am surprised to hear anyone having a problem getting "acceptable" ordinary basic Thai P4P fare of that nature. I mean, it seems to me practically all hurdles are eliminated, the punter is asking virtually nothing of the girl, no meaningful intimacy or personal effort is required of her, I might be reluctant to consider it "having sex" at all. And I would not be the least bit surprised if the girls felt the same way. It just seems like the only challenge for the punter is zeroing in on the best looking girls on view and negotiating the lowest price they will accept. At most, maybe you have to wait an hour or two for your first or second choice to be available.
And, again from MY perspective, I can't imagine all but a very few among the top 1-2% lookers refusing to make a quick few thousand baht in that way with any punter of any age, weight, height or appearance as well. I would think getting covered everything, no finish to a BBBJ and perhaps even chucking any expectations of a BJ at all has to be the easiest thing for practically any punter to accomplish with even the best looking hookers anywhere in Thailand.
Day 11.
With just a few more days left before my departure, I made it a priority to ascertain whether Kapoo clubs, as I had imagined it, were merely a waste of time or was there still a possibility that a pleasure palace oasis existed. I had ticked off 3 such establishments, and found 2 more in close proximity in the familiar Silom area, so off I went. Got to Zeed spa which was in a less than satisfactory maintained plaza, and went up stairs to have a look. Talent was so so, with only 4 young ladies aged 19-24 present. The mamasan looked Chinese, late 30's, slim, tall, nice smile and very helpful. After checking out the line up twice and finding out the cost of services, I wasn't very interested. But thought I'd make the mamasan's day by enquiring if she was available. She was shocked at first, then dropped her head shyly with a cute smile. I could hear the girls in the room giggling away, making the mamasan feel even more embarrassed. She said, sorry, she cannot. I just smiled, and said okay, maybe next time, as she laughed and let me out.
A short walk away was my final destination in the search for the elusive Kapoo club. Having been let down so many times, I wasn't very confident as I reached a neat and well maintained house, tucked away in the middle of busy Bangkok Silom district. As I entered, I noticed a couple of Japanese gents floating around in expectancy. Soon enough, they were escorted away into their rooms. The mamasan enquired if I had a booking, and I explained that I didn't, so she said it's fine, I can take a seat. The place was smart, and nicely decorated with comfortable couches. As I had a seat awaiting the lineup, another smartly dressed Jap chap walked in and took a seat next to me. The mamasan told us that there's only 2 girls available, but I had first preference. The girls made an entry, and I was instantly taken aback. The 1 chick was really beautiful, slim, tall, long black hair with a sexy figure. The other was taller, okay looking, and decent figure. As I was about to choose the prettier girl, a short cute girl wearing a tiny mini skirt and high heels walked downstairs to chat with the mamasan, she had such an amazing vibe about her, laughing, giggling and oh so jovial. She kept looking and smiling at me. At that point, my mind was made up, she was the 1. Told the Jap chap that he can choose first, and he obviously selected the prettier girl in the lineup. With a thumbs up from him as he was escorted away, I enquired with the mamasan about the availability of the short cute girl named Bonus. She said she'll be done in an hours time, so I booked her for 4:30 pm and headed out to grab a meal and a coffee across the road.
Upon my return, I was advised by the mamasan that there's 2 options, 2200 bht for a topless massage and 2700 for shower and fully nude massage. I asked if FS was available, and she smirked stating I can discuss it with the girl. So I opted for the 2700 package and soon enough, Bonus arrived to escort me upstairs. She was really friendly, spoke decent enough English, and maintained a smile that was contagious. The room was spotless and extremely well kept, similar to a 4 star hotel level with a small shower cubicle at the one side. So far, so good was my thoughts, I just hoped she wasn't going to disappoint service wise. We undressed and got into the shower. She had a stunning enhanced rack on her, perfectly complimenting her slim, milk white body. She lathered me up with soap, and began a b2 be rub down, moving up and down my front and back, allowing any fondling I desired. I was impressed. Onto the bed and she began a very sensual oil massage. We chatted all the while and she revealed that she's a law student at university but working at the spa part time. She was also an 'Angel' at the spa. There were 5 'Angels' and the rest 'Models'. I enquired about sex and she said 'Angels' charge 2000 bht for 1 shot, 500 bht extra for BJ and I think 300 HJ. I asked if it was a BBBJ and she said no. So I agreed to pay 2000 thb.
She began with an arousal technique that was extremely pleasurable, ear lobe licking, neck kissing, nipple licking, belly kisses, DFK, all the while gently rubbing and stroking my cock with minimal pressure. I was hard as a rock, this 21 year old had experience and expertise beyond her years. I had been to a number of soapy's, MP's, BJ bars etc, and none of those compared to this Angel's ability to turn me on, she was that good. Before long, I flipped her over onto her back, and began my foreplay technique, leading down for DATY. She had smeared some strawberry flavoured edible lube around her pussy, which added to a most delicious pussy licking experience. I had her arching her back and thrusting her pelvis into my face in no time, sweet moans of ecstasy filled the room. Just before she came, she sat up and clawed her fingers into my back running all the way across my head as she landed flat on her back with a euphoric gaze in her eyes. This Angel had finally fallen. She must've felt the need to return the favour as she asked me to lay down, and she blew the condom onto my cock, and continued to blow me for a good few minutes. When she was done, she just said, it's okay, no charge and smiled as she began to mount me and begin a pleasurable riding session. A mere 20 minutes went by after exploring a few positions, and for some reason I lost control and popped in doggy. I was embarrassed as it wasn't my usual level of endurance, perhaps the whole Kapoo club fantasy becoming a reality had gotten to me. I just said to her, "I don't think I finished", as she looked down at the sagging sock of semen she asked "are you sure"? And we both just laughed. She removed the condom, and I had a quick dick rinse off. There was still 15 minutes on the clock, and she handed me another condom saying"you can"? Of fucking course I can! Jumped back on the bed, and she said it's okay, I'm her last customer for the day as she proceeded to tickle and caress my cock to his former glory. Soon enough, condom was on and I was pounding away like a man on a mission. I fucked her straight for another 25 minutes and finally blew mish inside her.
It was a fucking amazing experience, with a fucking amazing girl. Bonus is a pleasure pleasing professional. I paid her 2 k and 300 tip. Got her Line, but she doesn't meet outside work apparently. IMHO, If you guys want the best Kapoo Club experience, I can only recommended Homme Relax. They had stunning girls, wonderful location (near the bts), fantastic establishment and apparently been running for 10 years. I only saw 3 girls (the rest were busy), but they have many, and constantly have new girls every month which they keep you updated with on Line. If anyone is keen, send me a PM and I'll give you their Line, or just search them on google. It's costly at 4700 Bht for 90 minutes and no BBBJ (you could pay 2200, and discuss sex with the girl, bringing your bill to 4400), so it's not for everyone. But if you want young, educated, gorgeous girls who are very professional at their practice, this is a must. Certainly no tattooed, pierced up girls with baby scarring here. This spot is class and that's the reason that the business type Jap chaps were there. I did get a couple pics during the line up, so you can find them attached.
With a great afternoon completed, I couldn't wait to meet my Holly's coffee girl that night. Having pulled the trigger twice earlier, I knew she'd be in for a long lasting love making experience, if she would finally succumb. Met her at Thong Lor BTS, and headed to Octave rooftop bar at the Marriot hotel which was a short stroll away. She looked absolutely stunning in a thigh high black miniskirt with matching black heels which accentuated her smooth, shapely honey-skin legs with every stride. I lost count of the number of guys that turned and strained their necks to catch a glimpse as we walked down Sukhumvit road holding hands. She was sexy, without appearing slutty, I was smiling, without appearing too smug. Got to the rooftop bar and ordered some drinks. Music was cool with some deep house beats jamming, and the place had a nice vibe without being too crowded. Again, she got a lot of stares from the mostly foreign guys that were there. I just lapped it up and played my part by rubbing her ass and thighs while receiving pecks on the cheek as we took in the incredible Bangkok city view from 48 floors high in the sky. It was a surreal moment for me, everything paused for a while, nothing else mattered, just her and I and the polluted Bangkok sky. As she put her arm around my waist and pointed at the passing planes, I felt a real connection with this girl. The chemistry was amazing, her words and emotions were real, the look in her eyes were pure and undefiled. This was all new to me. I had grown accustomed to the superficial 2 hour pay and play affairs, the love you short time routine, the few thousand baht and depart goodbye's. Was she my solace in a city filled with sex and sins? It was obvious, she was falling for me, catching feelings, or was the opposite true. As I pondered these thoughts, she grabbed the railings and leaned forward. I took a step back and gazed in admiration at her perfectly shaped legs, well rounded ass and sexy hips. At that point I snapped out of my delusional dilemma, what the fuck was I thinking, I was going to tap that ass hard. With that in mind, I hurriedly finished up my drink and urged her to do so too. Got the bill and headed to the exit. Back on Sukhumvit road, she enquired "where to now", and I replied, "my apartment". She just bit her lip and said okay.
Back at my pad we chilled for a while with lot's of kissing and caressing on the couch. She felt a bit sticky, so asked if she could shower. I got her a towel and allowed her to go ahead. I knew this routine all too well, so I undressed completely, neatened the bed and lay down in anticipation. Soon enough, the bathroom door opened and she walked out. The smile on her face capitulated in mere seconds and transformed into that of shock and surprise. Talk about awkward, there I was, butt naked on the bed, willy waving in excitement and she was fully dressed in her original clothes. She burst out laughing as I struggled to grab a towel in embarrassment. It was fucking funny. She was cool though, and eased the situation by coming over and sitting next to me. I was all over her in seconds, kissing, biting, licking and undressing her all the while. Soon we were both naked and I finally got a look at her incredible body. She was sexy personified with a perfect boob job, cute round ass and well trimmed Bush. With my boy fully erect, she became quite concerned as she had never seen a cock that big. She kept trying to convince me that a BJ is all she could offer as she was too afraid, so I let her blow me for a good while, and we changed over to 69 so I could finally taste her too. After a while I decided to give her a real DATY session and got her on her back for a 20 minute orgasmic treat. With her pussy craving more and leaking in hope, I whipped out a rubber and suited up. She struggled initially with the size, so it was a slow passionate build up into some real hard and fast fucking. We covered multiple positions, but reverted to mish as it was the most pleasurable and heartfelt position for us both. The CIP was the perfect ending with a girl I had fantasized about bedding for months. If I had fucked only her on my entire trip, I would've been satisfied. Well, if my trip was only 2 days long that is.
We showered and chilled for a while. She had work the next day, so couldn't stay the night. I had slipped 3 k into her purse earlier but asked her how much she needed for a taxi. She didn't want anything, but I gave her an extra 300. We kissed goodnight as she jumped into a taxi and headed off. I wanted to see her again before I left, but it didn't work out. She's definitely GF material and a relationship type so no action shots on this report.
Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.
The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?
I recall an ex GF who I use to BBFS with, had a case of thrush which caused a foul odor. She had a check up with gynae who prescribed the required antibiotics, ointments etc. After treatment was over and everything returned to normal, we continued to engage in BBFS, but she got it again. The doc then advised that I probably picked up the infection from her initially and after intercourse when her treatment was complete, she got it again. I had to go on treatment for a couple weeks to ensure that shit was cured. Ever since, I always monger with a cock sock.
When I was in Pattaya, 1 of the hot freelance girls that visited my hotel had forgotten the condom. She asked if I had 1 and just to test the waters, I said no. On her own accord she said it's okay, we can fuck, but don't CIP. She was obviously familiar with that request and showed no concern about a condom. I did end up throwing 1 on and fucked her solid, but again she had a nasty fishy smell that worsened the deeper I penetrated her.
Now I'm not sure if these foul smells are STD or UTI related, but I do know that a single test can't be carried out for all types of infections. Usually a specific STD test is required to test for the related symptoms.
Inputs from you guys will be appreciated.
Being on the far more problematic extreme of the industry in that way, frankly I am surprised to hear anyone having a problem getting "acceptable" ordinary basic Thai P4P fare of that nature. I mean, it seems to me practically all hurdles are eliminated, the punter is asking virtually nothing of the girl, no meaningful intimacy or personal effort is required of her, I might be reluctant to consider it "having sex" at all. And I would not be the least bit surprised if the girls felt the same way. It just seems like the only challenge for the punter is zeroing in on the best looking girls on view and negotiating the lowest price they will accept. .I might be problematic in a different way to yourself. No I cannot expect a great repeat girl, even for just standard sex requirements, yet I am sure it was not so difficult to get great girls nearly all the time, 20+ years ago. So why did girls get so much less fun at sex than they used to be? (fortunately not all). We have to hunt where our success rates are better of course. We don't have the time to waste on shit sessions. Have to assume many girls like Japanese or young guys. I am not fat and still have hair, maybe face got a bit craggy with age.
My requirements:
1. I need girls that want to fuck farangs, and are reasonably enthusiastic about it, not too restrictive, not going for a quickie, and doing their best for the customer to have a good time. Not girls whose legs seize up stiffly with farang sized cock, a bit longer than average. I can make do with super hot girls that are very co-operative, if not orgasmic and wanting to get it off as well. Most of my repeat girls like DATY a lot. Most can orgasm if in the mood.
2. I need girls that look pretty and want hot slim bodies preferably all natural, not too saggy, no railway tracks, not girls well below the standard of my GF and regular girls I do. Can be mothers no problem (if tits, ass and belly still good), can be older in good shape. Repeating known girls is a lot easier. Success rate is nearly guaranteed.
3. Value for money, not just cheap. No repeat girls basically means the money was wasted. I will pay a significant premium for super looks if it is a fun time as well. BB is not mandatory for me but like it with special girls.
I am not finding that many MP girls to add to my regulars. Some may have great performance, but usually the looks are sub standard. Most MP girls that I really like, don't last that long. Maybe the requirements of MP work is largely for mechanical sex. Last 4 or 5 MP girls I put on the repeat list, all left the shop, for one reason or another. I can still contact 2 of them so that is good.
Soi 4 is a possible hunting ground for me, but success rate for my requirements is not that good so far. I would pay more than going rate if I can get a good regular from there with good looks too. I expect more than the average service from girls there, not a 30 min quickie.
I even like black girls sometimes. Saw one incredible hottie in a pub in the last year or so. Unfortunately the general standard of the Africans is quite low here. So have not done any for a long time. Did not see any high standard Kazak / Uzbek girls really either (maybe was not looking for them).
Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.
The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?
I recall an ex GF who I use to BBFS with, had a case of thrush which caused a foul odor. She had a check up with gynae who prescribed the required antibiotics, ointments etc. After treatment was over and everything returned to normal, we continued to engage in BBFS, but she got it again. The doc then advised that I probably picked up the infection from her initially and after intercourse when her treatment was complete, she got it again. I had to go on treatment for a couple weeks to ensure that shit was cured. Ever since, I always monger with a cock sock.
When I was in Pattaya, 1 of the hot freelance girls that visited my hotel had forgotten the condom. She asked if I had 1 and just to test the waters, I said no. On her own accord she said it's okay, we can fuck, but don't CIP. She was obviously familiar with that request and showed no concern about a condom. I did end up throwing 1 on and fucked her solid, but again she had a nasty fishy smell that worsened the deeper I penetrated her.
Now I'm not sure if these foul smells are STD or UTI related, but I do know that a single test can't be carried out for all types of infections. Usually a specific STD test is required to test for the related symptoms.
Inputs from you guys will be appreciated.I think you're quite mistaken assuming all the stinky pussies are from infections; maybe some are, but some girls just have stronger vag smells than others. Also where she's at in her cycle plays a huge role, if my S. O. Is any indication. Also with pick-ups in P4 P, chances are probably better than 50-50 you're not her first fuck of the evening, and maybe she just didn't clean up that well in between. I've personally had the experience of picking up a lovely lady, getting her back to the hotel, noticing a bit of funk, showering with her and hosing it down myself, and then bingo. It's fresh as a daisy, super sweet, and ready to eat!
Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.
The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?
I recall an ex GF who I use to BBFS with, had a case of thrush which caused a foul odor. She had a check up with gynae who prescribed the required antibiotics, ointments etc. After treatment was over and everything returned to normal, we continued to engage in BBFS, but she got it again. The doc then advised that I probably picked up the infection from her initially and after intercourse when her treatment was complete, she got it again. I had to go on treatment for a couple weeks to ensure that shit was cured. Ever since, I always monger with a cock sock.
When I was in Pattaya, 1 of the hot freelance girls that visited my hotel had forgotten the condom. She asked if I had 1 and just to test the waters, I said no. On her own accord she said it's okay, we can fuck, but don't CIP. She was obviously familiar with that request and showed no concern about a condom. I did end up throwing 1 on and fucked her solid, but again she had a nasty fishy smell that worsened the deeper I penetrated her.
Now I'm not sure if these foul smells are STD or UTI related, but I do know that a single test can't be carried out for all types of infections. Usually a specific STD test is required to test for the related symptoms.
Inputs from you guys will be appreciated.You probably should be in the safe sex thread. I have a sensitive nose, and I do DATY with every girl, so is not that frequent I meet smelly vaginas. Occasionally yes. So I find it a bit strange you should meet it so often, but might be a comment on the class of girls and how health conscious they are. If a girl has smelly pussy, it is not that likely I will want to keep repeating her.
My ex Farang wife had thrush a lot and a stinky pussy, so I do know all about it. Thai girls are usually cleaner than the average western girl, as far as I know. Thrush can be caused by poor diet with high sugars, but is treatable in the pussy. Also there are weak acid washes designed to prevent fungal infections. Fungus can be picked up from the man's dick in BB sex. My girls are not doing lots of different men BB (or so I believe). Depends on customer health and cleanliness too.
You can't expect guys to be truthful here. ha ha. However I admit to having Chlamydia twice, once source unsure but suspected BBBJ, and once in one eye after finger was in girl's pussy and must have rubbed the eye finger unwashed. Both many years back (nothing recently). So it is damn easy to catch even without BBFS. A buddy came to Thailand and caught Gonner. (wish I could spell it) almost immediately. HIV is a lot harder to catch, maybe 1000 times harder or more (assuming not doing bareback anal or drug needles), but there always will be the unlucky ones. Circumcision probably reduces risk of HIV. There is probably no reliable evidence of anyone catching HIV from DATY, but BBBJ faintly possible if bleeding from a dick wound (still highly unlikely for the man - more risk for the girl).
Every village in Thailand has people known to have died of Aids, not sure why was so prevalent years ago, some kids had both parents die of Aids. Don't know if drugs were a heavy contributor or one partner contracted from the other with normal sex.
Never wanted to COF at all. It shows a need to degrade the girl.Ya, very degrading to have to go shower and wash their face after sex (which they do anyway). It's much less degrading to cum inside their pussy so that they get pregnant and have to raise an illegitimate child the rest of their life in shame. Good ethics there.
Yes to both. But I have not pulled from Sexy Nights in ages. And I have had considerable success in Billboard, Twister BKK, Enter, Butterflies and Exotica in Nana Plaza, Long Gun, Suzie Wong and Cactus Bar on Soi Cowboy. Although I would not go so far as to suggest ALL the girls in any of those bars you and I mentioned will agree to it with me. Not even close. Only some.Yes, I agree with that list. Rawhide used to be on the list as well, but I hear it was purchased by the Arab, so that place is now going to be crap.
Ya, very degrading to have to go shower and wash their face after sex (which they do anyway). It's much less degrading to cum inside their pussy so that they get pregnant and have to raise an illegitimate child the rest of their life in shame. Good ethics there.Okay I did not think of the Altruistic reasons, although that is my reason, for cum on body as well. However I get no thrill out of it. So does not have to be on the face. Haha.
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03-06-19, 18:33
So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?Smelly Pussy is a huge turnoff. Thankfully I encounter it very, very rarely with the girls I am attracted to and take back to my place. Especially Thai girls. In fact, I can't recall any Thai girl I know with that problem. But I have found smelly pussy although still very rare with a couple of Filipinas and Khmer girls. I still remember a very smelly Khmer girl from Rose Bar in Phnom back in 2009. In general what do I do "if a girl has a funky smell downstairs?" I terminate the session. No boom boom Me - You. But I still pay her.
In the case of that smelly Rose Bar girl, I was kind of stuck because I had taken two girls upstairs for a menage a trois. They still rented out ST room upstairs in Rose Bar back then. Anyway, the other girl was really pretty and ultimately became one of my all-time favorite girls. But that night "smelly" really stunk up the bed. I let her blow me in the beginning while "all time" sat on my face. Then after the 1st round shag with "all time" the two of us only showered again and when we came back to the bed we had a 2nd shag together. I never touched "smelly" the whole time. But when the session was over, I gave both girls their fee plus a tip. I wanted to tip "all time" because she was so good, but I did not want to single her out so I gave "smelly" an equal tip too for doing almost nothing.
A few days later I popped back into the bar and saw both girls sitting by a table. I bought drinks for both girls, but I only took "all time" upstairs for another ST session which included 3 shags in a row. The price for her solo back in 2009 was $20 plus I gave her a $5 tip. I remember the year because later in the Fall the police began raiding the hostess bars and everything in Phnom Penh changed. 2009 was the last golden year of Phnom Penh.
Blanquiceleste
03-06-19, 18:38
Smelly Pussy is a huge turnoff. Thankfully I encounter it very, very rarely with the girls I am attracted to and take back to my place. What do I do "if a girl has a funky smell downstairs?" I terminate the session. No boom boom Me - You. But I still pay her.Thankfully for me as well, I can count the number of times I have a come across a can of Tuna on the fingers of two hands. A very tiny percentage still.
And the MO is exactly the same. Pay and politely request the girl to leave. With a friendly word to visit a doctor and check things out ASAP.
I may have been conditioned by those pornos, I admit I have watched a few over the years.
The CIM thing I consider the biggest waste. You can easily pull out and shoot all over her face.
It's a little more effort to pull out of her pussy and cum on her face or body, but not that much. The videos I have where I cum inside the girl, I just delete them because I find them boring. It's extremely sexy to see a girl coated in cum.
Another reason it's better to finish outside is if you want a 2nd round. I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself.
Smoothy, your post made me laugh. It is so completely opposite to my own deeply held feeling that CIM, cum anywhere except in the vagina is a waste of my precious bodily fluids. OK, I will concede that Cuming in a girl's ass hole is good too, although not as good as in her vagina unless her vagina is a cave. 555.
I think this whole take your dick out of her vagina so you can ejaculate on camera is total FAKE Hollywood. Originally it was only done in the porn videos to prove the sex was real. This is made clear in a scene from "Boogie Nights". Then somehow it caught on with a certain segment of the viewing public including YOU. LOL. No offence intended. I get it. You like to watch your own videos.
Anyway, when I am engaging in sexual congress, the last thing I want to do is break the rhythm/ break my feeling of euphoria and pull out to ejaculate during the last few seconds so's I can see my cum shoot all over a girl. Call me old school if you want, but I'm with Bill Clinton on this, it ain't sex if I don't cum in her vagina. (Just paraphrasing good ol' Bill, of course.) Opinions will vary.Make no mistake, there isn't a wrong answer here. CIP and CIM feel amazing. Giving a facial has great satisfaction too. Pulling out and finishing on the body doesn't do much though but cannot fault it. However, it's cringeworthy when someone posts about finishing with a handjob or having to finish himself which is a total waste of time.
Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.
The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?
I recall an ex GF who I use to BBFS with, had a case of thrush which caused a foul odor. She had a check up with gynae who prescribed the required antibiotics, ointments etc. After treatment was over and everything returned to normal, we continued to engage in BBFS, but she got it again. The doc then advised that I probably picked up the infection from her initially and after intercourse when her treatment was complete, she got it again. I had to go on treatment for a couple weeks to ensure that shit was cured. Ever since, I always monger with a cock sock..As you know, it's always best to put on the raincoat so to speak. I've only had 2 experiences really of going BBFS regularly, but we had our blood tested at the Red Cross for a few hundred Baht. The first, she followed me around Thailand to various beach resorts. The 2nd, was when the thought of a holiday girlfriend was appealing after the first experience. Variety is king though. BBBJ + CIM or finishing in the cover is fine, but everyone is different. When a smell is noticed, usually just give 200 baht and have them leave. The clinics take longer to get results versus the anonymous testing at the Red Cross. GoGo girls are viewed as safer since it is said they test regularly, but how often that is enforced is something else. Even if a test is done, no one know what else is brewing there just as you experienced with your ex. If BBFS was the goal, the GoGo route is the most appealing even if it costs a premium.
Yes I use the word bars plural.
It appears that the new Kazy downstairs is not affiliated with Crazy House, so much. That might explain the huge difference in style. Different owners might be sharing the same location, each taking different levels. When I first came to Cowboy in 1991, I frequented Midnight Upstairs which was unrelated to the downstairs bar. The location is still called Midnight today (both levels I guess), but now has a Ladyboy bar between it and Doll House.
Kozy is the new Crazy House bar upstairs but not yet opened. I expect it to be a lot more raunchy than Kazy at a guess. Will it be a Karaoke club too, I not 100% sure? If so it might be mainly targeting Asian customers. So for those who like raunchy bars, might be better to look in Kozy when it opens. I will look myself, just in case they manage to make it anything like the original Crazy House, when it opened. That was good. Lots of hot girls dancing nude. Perhaps it won't be that at all.
Also now owned by Crazy House Management is Five Star. It has a lot of naked dancers. All girls. 4 of the girls are ex Suzie Wong. Milfs not exactly stunning. One on them is named "Dtom", a skinny MILF as yet no baby so very tight pussy. Very small tits. One buddy on the forum will want to visit her for sure. Tonight she was a bit overly drunk however that was not normal in her Suzie Wong days. I believe she was in "Enter" at Nana Plaza for a while. There is a close link between Dtom and Knot at Suzie Wong and Knot was one of my ex favourites but she has retired to have a family. Dtom was an expert pussy licker in Lesbian shows but 5 Star does not have that, at least not yet. In the modern day I take Knot's younger sister Pat at Shark (also ex Suzie). Looks like the ladyboys that came to 5 star are now confined to be PR "girls" sitting outside, but the dancers inside are all real girls.
All the girls from Suzie's old management have probably moved on. So the new Suzie W under Baccarat management is nothing like the old Suzie W I think. I don't go there any more at all, and hardly went to Suzie once Crazy House first opened, and a certain Suzie girl retired.
Now I'm not sure if these foul smells are STD or UTI related, but I do know that a single test can't be carried out for all types of infections. Usually a specific STD test is required to test for the related symptoms.
Inputs from you guys will be appreciated.Can't remember the last time I had strong vaginal odor on a Thai girl. I do tend to zig when choosing girls when others are zagging. Maybe just been lucky. Had a little scent the other night when I fucked a non pro and she had an orgasm. Then it disappeared. (when I went down on her, no scent whatsoever. When she came there was a little scent. just a whiff of one).
If I'd encounter a scent. Same as other guys. Politely end encounter, pay her.
Re bb, I get tested and bring oraquik kits. Am circumcised and never finish inside (this always lessens risk for girl in a big way as well, beyond mere pregnancy).
Will almost never go bb with any streetgirl. Also the older and more "experienced in trade) she looks, the more reticent I will be to go bb.
Tend to do bb just w / tinder girls and bargirls and freelancers from Thermae (actual ones, not the ones I see every night).
Last year a woman I met off Tinder who tested positive (I posted about it here). She was older (looked younger) and had been in the game for a while (another reason I've become more age sensitive with girls in the game but I did not fully realize how deeply she was in the game in beginning). I paid her, told her to go see a doctor (she tested pos there again, is on meds now, doing ok, we have stayed in touch). Tragedy for her, mini tragedy for me, as she was an amazing sexual partner, was up for anal, completely got into and then orgasmed while we were at it. (those kind of women qualify as sexual keepers). I really wish I could see her again. but alas..
Yes, I agree with that list. Rawhide used to be on the list as well, but I hear it was purchased by the Arab, so that place is now going to be crap.Smoothy, I was just wondering if it is fairly well known among some of the girls in the bars you mentioned and/or do you generally mention to the girl upfront what your interests are with regard to pulling out or engaging in oral sex only to the point of your orgasm and then quickly shifting to a Cum On Face or Cum On Body finish. If so, it seems to me that would go a long way to encountering many more girls who will not make nearly as big a deal about you wearing a condom as when the girl assumes the bareback punter would go all the way to a CIP finish.
Having been involved a lot more frequently on this board with posting reports etc, I can't help but notice how many guys discuss BBFS with girls as a prerequisite. Now I'm not here to judge anyone, that's not the point of this post. But I would like some enlightenment regarding how precautions are taken, how often are check ups done, the costs of these check ups, if anyone has honestly contracted any infections.
The reason I ask is, from my recent trip experience (Bkk but especially in Pattaya) I noticed that many girls had yeast infections or possibly an STD that caused the foul odor in their vag. So what do the guys who BBFS do if the girl has a funky smell downstairs?
...- I have been barebacking with thousands of different girls from around the world, mostly P4P, for 45+ years and have only gotten 1 dose of easily treatable trichomonas. Got it from a non pro university girlfriend when I was 19 years old. Took one pill for each of the next 4-5 days and it was gone. As of about 4-5 months ago when I got a thorough blood check and full medical check up for just about everything imaginable, I was free of any communicable disease and no sign of an infectious disease. But, according to the doctor, I should "eat more red meat and cut down on sweets" in order to lower my bad cholesterol level. On the other hand, my good cholesterol level kind of makes it a wash. LOL. That is not a testimonial for the "safety" of barebacking. Just stating my experience and condition.
Possible contributing factors to my near total lack of catching anything along the way are that I don't generally engage in prolonged, rough and ramming kind of sex I sometimes hear about and read about on these forums, the kind that could easily cause skin abrasions and entry points for whatever. Oh, I'll go for an hour or more if I feel like it. But it is always going to be extremely well lubed (natural lube, not from a tube) and, well, relatively gentle I suppose. Works for me. If it doesn't work for the girl, I will probably not be seeing her very often anyway. Also, I always roll out of bed to wash off in the shower and "take a leak" within minutes of finishing, giving little bugs less time to grow and spread I guess. Oh, and I was circumcised as an infant.
- I would not bareback as I do if I had not gotten a vasectomy decades ago and if I did not always have a recent negative/normal/non-reactive blood check document for HIV testing from a reputable clinic to show anyone interested in seeing it or simply for me to know about myself. I also get checked for other STIs, including syphilis. I get the test done every 1-2 months at Thai Red Cross, just off the Ratchedamri BTS station of the Silom Line. 200 baht for the HIV test and 200 baht for the additional STI/syphilis test. Takes about 90 minutes from walking into the clinic to walking out with the document. Bring your original passport if you want a printed result document with your name on it.
Btw, regular or return visitors should know they are now working right through the previous Lunch Break hour of 12Noon to 1PM, although I am sure they stagger the staff for a couple of hours midday in order to provide a break for everyone on the staff. That means you don't have to worry so much about showing up at 11AM or thereabouts where the 12Noon break would stop everything cold for another hour and add to the wait time as it used to in the past. They don't do it that way anymore, which is nice.
I fully understand the limitations of such testing. But it is better than going bareback and knowing virtually nothing about your health status year after year. Considering the well known ways it is contracted, I see no reason for me to think I will ever get HIV. I get the test and document to show anyone who is worried about it before barebacking with me. That is rarely required or asked for. But I like to have a document just in case.
- Like others here, I can't say I run into many extremely smelly pussies in Thailand or, for that matter, in other places I have mongered. However, I do encounter some pussies that smell funkier than others. I usually write that off as a dietary issue or simply the girl's body chemistry. Not a big deal to me. It has only rarely stopped me from launching into DATY and, almost always, whatever slight funky odor was there will get washed away with the flow of her natural lubrication. I honestly can't remember a girl's funky smelling pussy getting smellier and funkier as the DATY progressed. But I have begged off and changed the subject 2-3 times in my 45+ years of having sex due to a worrying odor. Which would represent a small fraction of 1 percent of my partners.
...........LOL. Hell, I hated and resented having to masturbate when there were few other financially viable and agreeable options back in the USA. ...............Unlike many of you guys on this board when I was somewhat impecunious many years ago I had occasion to session some really horrible items in the US. Every so often I had the choice of repeating and I found masturbation to be a more enjoyable option.
Gents (Tooms, Catire, IMembr, Blanq, Natty, Syzygies, Jsxyz).
Thank you.
Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, experiences, advice and the precautions you guys take. It's immensely helpful and I'm glad you guys do take some sort of safety measures.
In total, there were 5 girls in Pattaya (all TF girls) and 3 in Bkk (2 Kapoo and 1 TF) that I encountered with that overwhelming foul fishy smell. That was 8 out of the 23 girls I fucked on that trip, so that's the reason I asked. And it wasn't that period smell, or that natural strong vag juice smell, this was the thrush, bacteria built up, you got some serious problems smell, which concerned me. At one point in Pattaya, after 3 consecutive girls had that issue, I thought the fucking condoms were scented that way. But from what I gather from you guys years of experiences, it was probably a rarity and my bad luck.
Personally, I'm not circumcised nor do I have a vasectomy. But from my initial BB sexual encounters at age 16 with a long time GF, I got into the habit from that age to whip it out before CIP, and usually cum on belly, tits, ass, thighs etc. I continued that routine throughout my life with all my GF's and a few 1 night stands thereafter, with just a few slip ups along the way. Fortunately, I'm still not a dad. I guess, I'd only consider BBFS with a GF type, non-pro, or possibly with a repeat after the checks are done.
Thanks again for the honest responses chaps, you guys are great.
Smoothy, I was just wondering if it is fairly well known among some of the girls in the bars you mentioned and/or do you generally mention to the girl upfront what your interests are with regard to pulling out or engaging in oral sex only to the point of your orgasm and then quickly shifting to a Cum On Face or Cum On Body finish. If so, it seems to me that would go a long way to encountering many more girls who will not make nearly as big a deal about you wearing a condom as when the girl assumes the bareback punter would go all the way to a CIP finish.I'm a come on not come in person as well when it comes to FS. CIM though for oral.
I'm a come on not come in person as well when it comes to FS. CIM though for oral.Wow. Shades of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." LOL. I had no idea there were so many Cum On rather than Cum In punters in my midst. My BBFS+CIP ways seem to be more and more unremarkable and conventional all the time.
Gents (Tooms, Catire, IMembr, Blanq, Natty, Syzygies, Jsxyz).
Thank you.
Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts, experiences, advice and the precautions you guys take. It's immensely helpful and I'm glad you guys do take some sort of safety measures.
In total, there were 5 girls in Pattaya (all TF girls) and 3 in Bkk (2 Kapoo and 1 TF) that I encountered with that overwhelming foul fishy smell. That was 8 out of the 23 girls I fucked on that trip, so that's the reason I asked. And it wasn't that period smell, or that natural strong vag juice smell, this was the thrush, bacteria built up, you got some serious problems smell, which concerned me. At one point in Pattaya, after 3 consecutive girls had that issue, I thought the fucking condoms were scented that way. But from what I gather from you guys years of experiences, it was probably a rarity and my bad luck..Then again Pattaya is a bit of a cesspool but regardless it sounds like bad luck. Never had it happen, but horrible luck would be being on a holiday for 1-2 weeks or a month and having to take antibiotics for 3 to 5 days waiting for something to clear while having given the girl 1000-3000 baht. That would derail a trip. If one participated with gogos, then the BBFS route may be enticing.
Wow. Shades of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." LOL. I had no idea there were so many Cum On rather than Cum In punters in my midst. My BBFS+CIP ways seem to be more and more unremarkable and conventional all the time.When you use the pull out method from the age of 13 or whatever age one started, the pull out method is just something that most punters are used to!
Gents (Tooms, Catire, IMembr, Blanq, Natty, Syzygies, Jsxyz).
Thank you.
Thanks again for the honest responses chaps, you guys are great.Just for the record, in a place like Pattaya I would be super super reticent to bb as well if it were with any kind of regular sex worker.
Just for the record, in a place like Pattaya I would be super super reticent to bb as well if it were with any kind of regular sex worker.I like CIM, CIP but there is something sexy about sliding between the orbs of an amply endowed chest whilst she laps up the head and jizz with a a lusty smile.
I emerged from the bowels of Suvarnabhumi into an atmosphere that could be cut with a dull spoon. The air was thick with humidity, smog and the scent of fresh pussy awaiting the gentle ravishings of Kumbu. And ravish he shall, oh yes.
It's been two years since my last expedition to the land of legs, the city of carnal desire, the place that took my mongering cherry all those many years ago. I was but a young lad of 19 short years when I had my first encounter with a beauty of Sabai Land in Pattaya. She was small, warm, and gentle with me, and she showed me what mongering can be. I was not a virgin, but I had never had such uninhibited sex before. She showed me how to express myself, albeit in a fumbling way that night, but she showed me that mongering has a place in the sexual life of any normal man. It is not bad. It is not immoral. It is not unnatural. It gives one the ability to meditate on the act, enjoy the coupling, and to explore the edges of ones experience without any self-conscious concerns. In short, it's a liberating form of sexuality that, as I learned those many years ago, has its place in the healthy sexual life of the average male.
And so since that day, the day my own tenderness was revealed to me by the soft hand of my first soapie girl, I have been an ardent mongerer. I've mongered all over the globe, at all price points. Dudes, I once paid a high priced escort in LA $3000, and while it was fucking awesome, I've never repeated. There's a point after which the law of diminishing returns really kicks you in the teeth. And on the other hand, I've had some pretty low-life experiences too. Also in the City of Angeles (USA), I once had a hand job from a toothy massage-parlor ajumma with more nipples than teeth for a paltry $20. Yeesh.
My point, gentlemen, is that as with everything in life, there is a shallow middle that I now strive for. And that middle is decidedly the girls of lower Sukhumvit. And so it is that I make my biannual pilgrimage to the land of these lovelies, on the pretense of work (Hah) - to once again liberate me from the clutches of modern sexually repressed society.
My flight was slightly delayed, pulling into the gate at 11 pm sharp. I knew there was no chance of a Thermae encounter tonight, so I decided to relax and hit the night clubs tonight. That meant I had plenty of time, and so no reason to sweat any delays. And with that thought in mind, as I penguin-walked the immigration line, I was able to slow my breathing, relax my blood pressure, and ease the perspiration, though I was unable to obscure from the view of the Arab ladies all around me the footlong subway sandwich I was apparently smuggling in my pants.
Luggage retrieved (long delay), customs traversed, downstairs to the taxi line, sawad dii krap, and off we sped. I chatted with the driver a little, and negotiated a tip of extra 50 baht if he broke all speed limits, and he duly obliged. As we hurtled through the humid night air at something like 130 kph, up popped the familiar Freddy lyric.
I'm burning through the sky, yeah.
200 degrees that's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit.
I'm traveling at the speed of light.
I want to make a supersonic man out of you.
We pulled up to the Mercure Soi 11, I hopped out and did a quick check in. Up to my room (review to come), shower, unpack and a quick check of the time revealed 1:30 am. Ok, time for the sifting to begin. First stop: Levels.
I arrived at around 1:50 am. There was a gaggle of Indian and Middle Eastern men making loud noises and wide arm gestures at the base of the steps, which was a little disconcerting. But I maneuvered around them and got frisked my Goon #1. His companion, aptly named Goon #2, directed me to pay the cover, which was 300 baht (comes with a one drink comp), and up to the 6th floor it was. I was accompanied in the elevator with a couple of Spanish lasses, and they were clearly not here for the same thing I was. That too, was a little disconcerting.
What I loved about the old Climax was that its purpose was singular: to allow girls to hook up with men. Very few lady boys, and very few non-hunting men or women were there. But Levels has always been a mixed venue. There are some people there who are on holiday, others who are expats getting together, some couples out for some fun, and then some looking for something slightly more carnal, like me. This makes picking up girls in this kind of joint just a tad more cumbersome.
When I arrived, the place was not really all that full. The open air space was about 80% full, but inside it was like 50% full. But still plenty of writhing bodies to ogle, so no complaints really. I circled one full time, looking at what was on display, then got my drink, and then circled one more time. I found a table near the entrance and settled down for a little game watching. It was a good spot since I got to see everyone walking in and out and I got a good sense of the possibilities.
While I was watching, there was a Chinese dude being a little too forthright. He was in his late 40's, glasses, kind of portly, oddly dressed, holding a beer that looked clammy at this point. He was walking up to girl after girl, saying some words, obviously being rejected, and then moving on to the next girl. I don't know what he was saying to get flat out rejections. It could have been he was a loser, though I suspect it was more to do with what he was asking for, and how he was doing it. I think he was going up to them and saying "will you fuck me for 500 baht?" The WHAT is the 500 baht, and the HOW is the fuck me part. But I have no idea really, it's just an observation and some speculation.
I did a quick count in my head of the quality of girls, and overall, I think there were about 10 serious lookers in the whole place, about 10 very doable, but not quite top drawer, girls too. And about 10-15 girls who I would not go with even if it were free. And then there were about 10 girls who were clearly not available (white girls), and 20-30 girls who I could not figure out if they were freelancers or just there for a night out. I know, I know, everyone has their price, but given that I had just spent 20 hours in transit, slept 3 hours in the last 48, I was in no mood to do a suave seduction of a part timer. I wanted to pick someone up, get me some crotch time, and get my pretty little self to sleep in good order. So in sum, less than half of the girls in that club were worth my time, energy and money.
So I bailed. I decided to check out Insanity, and if it sucked, I could always come back to Levels (they do stamp your hand on the way in). I walked up soi 11 to the little chink in the road, turned left and up the steps to the club. Frisked, paid my 400 baht cover (with one drink comp), and into the club I went.
The first thing to know is that Insanity is far bigger than Levels. There must have been 2-3 times as many people here. It wasn't full by any means plenty of empty VIP seating, and space to walk too, but more people, which is good.
Again, I circled once, got my drink, then circled again. My overall impressions of the girls here is that there were more of them, and the quality was higher. But this could easily vary night by night, or even hour by hour. I found a spot on the left side of the club to put myself for about 20 minutes as I watched the talent. Off to my right was a striking young thing with a natural nose that spoke to me. She had slightly peroxide hair (the off-brown kind), long lanky limbs, a bare midriff (yum), and as smile that will open many doors for her. She looked to be in her early 20's, and was with a frumpy girlfriend. She and I exchanged eye contact a few times she was clearly interested, as was I. But at some point, her friend dragged her into the throng of undulating bodies in the middle of the club, and as she was dragged past me, she gave me one last wondrous look of the eyes, with an expression of like "I don't want to go into that mass of bodies". And then she was swallowed by the crowd, never to be seen again. I waited a good 30 minutes in case she managed to return, but she never did.
But when she left, she vacated a spot that was taken up by another girl of interest. This one had seriously peroxide hair platinum blonde. She had a cool looking face, but she was wearing a grey sport coat (formal looking), with a black halter top, and grey pants. So she was wearing a suit pant in Insanity. That's pretty insane. But she looked really hot. She seemed to be in her mid-20's, but her expression was not one of smiles and wonderment (like the previous girl), but more of "If you want me, you'the better come get me". She was looking back and forth between me and her phone, which is never a good sign, but the fact she was making eye contact with me was a good sign.
So we did the googly eyes for a few minutes when a white dude in his 50's swooped in for a little looksy. He walked up to her, stood about 5 feet away and smiled at her, as if to say "cheer up doll, I'm here". She was having none of it. She looked at him with a blank expression. Nothing. No returned smile, no wink, no words, nothing. Not even disdain! In a way, the lack of a response is the most damning kind of response. Not to be defeated, Mr. Smiley shuffled a little closer and said a few inaudible words, and she just looked at him again. Yikes, this was not going well. So just as cheerily as he arrived, he spun around and trotted off, with his grin only slightly diminished by this encounter.
Hmm. Ordinarily I am full enough of myself to think, "Kumbu, you can crack this nut. You have the inner confidence and the outwardly charm to make even this creature turn around". But in this case, given how tired I was, I was not sure I wanted to invest the time and effort into what would ultimately be a less than perfect sexual encounter. Nonetheless, I thought I would regret it if I just left without sampling the platter on offer. So I gave her a look, our eyes met, I smiled, and then before she had time to not-respond, I turned and walked the other way. I walked into the crowd, hoping that her eyes were following me. I disappeared around the corner, walked past the stage where a show of gluteal jiggling was half-heartedly being imposed on the crowd by the paid dancers, turned the other corner near the bathrooms and circled back to approach the grumpy full-suited beauty from the other side.
As I approached, she was looking glumly at her phone, so I walked right up to her, walked past her coming closer to her than I needed to, and then settled myself in a spot about 1 foot to her left, and slightly behind her. She turned to look at me, and I said "You don't mind me standing here, do you?" And she said "Sorry?" And I said "No need to apologize, I don't mind you standing here either. ".
Damn, Kumbu, where do you come up with this stuff?! That is pure gold right there, GOLD! And I think she noted the wit in it, and an ever so slight warmth crept into her terse lips. She looked at me slightly longer than she needed to, and then her blank expression returned, and she turned away. Ok, more work to do here, Kumbu. That opening salvo was a good one, but the battle is far from won. She's wobbling, but not yet on the ropes.
So I stood back and took a few breaths. I was thinking about how to break the ice a little more when this largish Arab looking guy walking past her saw her and his eyes instantly opened wide, his grin almost broke his face, and he let out a long, loud "Ooooh". Shit, man, come on. Have some respect here. I could see her recoil a little, and who could blame her? And as soon as this dude exited stage left, Mr Smiley walked back for another gander at her, this time walking past her and just shining his yellow teeth at her.
THERE! Kumbu, make your move. I moved in to her and when she turned slightly to listen to me, I said into her ear:
Kumbu: he likes you.
Glum: I think so.
Kumbu: You don't seem to like him.
Glum: Not my kind.
Kumbu: What is your kind?
Glum: (pauses) Not him.
Kumbu: Hah! I see. My name is Kumbu, what's yours?
Glum: Nice to meet you Kumbu, my name is Nit.
Now she turned her body towards me a little, indicating a slow opening of the clam. We talked for a few more minutes (where you from? Why you come Thailand? What you do? Etc.), and then I told her I was going to bail. And she asked "Where you go?" I said, "To my hotel, I am tired, I need a nice hot shower and to relax a little. " She said, "But it's so early, why you go now?" To which I said "It's past 3 in the morning, late enough for me. Hey, do you want to come with me? We can have a very relaxing time. ".
Nit: How much you pay me?
Yes. Finally, the charade had been wrapped, double-bagged and placed into the back of the freezer. We could now do what we are all here to do: fuck (me) and earn money (her).
Kumbu: How much do you want?
Nit: 5000 baht.
Kumbu: That's a lot for a hot shower and some relaxing.
Nit: Not only shower and relaxing kaa.
Kumbu: Oh yeah? Well, how about I pay you 2500, but if the relaxing is very good, I pay you 3000 baht.
Nit: No tip?
Kumbu: That 500 IS the tip. But fine, 3000 plus tip. But only if very good. If regular, then no.
Nit. Kaa.
She grabbed her knock-off LV clutch, and indicated we should leave.
We took the short walk to the Mercure, which was super convenient I must say. As we walked we talked, which was nice. We got into the room and she plumped herself down on the bed. We talked another few minutes about where she is from (she insisted Bangkok, not wanting to reveal her obvious Isaan roots), and why she was dressed so formally. She took exception to that, but in the end it was good because my message was that she was much more stylish than anyone else in Insanity.
At which point I tired of the small talk and said "I need that hot shower, you want to come?" And she said no. To tell the truth, I'm not much of a shower sharer, and she didn't seem to be one either, so if she had agreed to shower with me, my guess is that it would have been awkward at best. So I took a hot shower, after which she took her shower, and then she was there, in my bed, towel on, smelling nice and fresh.
We chatted a few minutes, with each turn of conversation allowing me to edge closer. And pretty soon my hands were on her, removing her towel.
She is a tall girl, perhaps 5'6" or 5'7", with a lean and tight body. Her legs were a little skinner than I had hoped, but in that pant-suit I could not evaluate the curviness of her legs. I am a total leg guy, so this means a lot to me. Her ass was also smaller than I typically prefer. I like some roundness and grabability to an ass. While her ass was grabable, it was less round with very little heft. She had the standard-issue be cup breasts, and a tight, toned midsection, which was perhaps the best part of this little delicacy.
I spent a good 10 minutes kissing her neck, shoulders, belly, hips, legs, and up the other side. The exploration was an exercise in sensual rebirth. It's been a long time since I have indulged in late-night carnal pleasure, and I had forgotten how intoxicating it is. I worked may way over to her pussy, which was not shaved but tightly trimmed. Luckily the carpet did not match the peroxide blonde drapes! So I dove in and went to town on her. She had very small lips, and a tiny little button of a clit. It was very well hidden behind a thick hood, which said to me that this girl does not orgasm much. Oh boy, I had my work cut out for me.
So gently, slowly, I worked my magic. And she slowly got more and more responsive, and she kept moaning and tensing up. But no orgasm. I was down in the trenches for a good hour, boys, and all I could get out of her was a few oohs and aahs. Damn. I can hear what you fuckers are thinking: "Shit, Kumbu ain't got no DATY game", but no, it wasn't my technique. I've got good technique dammit it works! (do I sound defensive here?) It was her. She was built in kind of an anti-orgasmic way, which is a total shame for her.
I noticed the clock in my peripheral vision, and it was closing in on 5 am now. So I decided that I was done with this. I was going to have my way with her, and then get some fucking sleep. So on goes my Trojan, and in goes little Kumbu, missionary style, with her legs crocked off to each side. And as I entered, the first thing I noticed was that she was fucking wet. I mean, just full of liquid, which for some reason had not been all that apparent as I did DATY. So insertion was easy, and unlike almost all Thai girls, she took me all the way. I went balls deep, and as I did that, she let's out this long, deep, guttural "Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh".
Ok. Thank you for that. Now let's begin, shall we? So I slowly pull out, and she does the same, long, deep "Aaaaaaaaahhhhhh. " Loud, I mean, like, wake-up-neighbors loud. This was a far more sensual response than with the DATY. So I pull in and out, and she just gets hotter and hotter and louder and louder, until she was (literally) screaming at the top of her lungs. Her legs were pointing up, one at 10 O'clock, the other at 2 O'clock, peroxide hair was flying everywhere, her long red-painted nails are digging painfully into my back, and she was just fucking going bonkers on me.
After another 5-6 minutes of this she pulls her legs back down, she takes her heels and digs them into my ass. Eeesh, excuse me? Heel-ass sex? No thanks lady. But within seconds I realized that this had nothing to do with me. With her heels firmly ensconced between my butt cheeks, she had a good handle on me, and she could control my thrusting. So with her legs, she started to push me in and out of her. She would pull her heels in, pushing little Kumbu deeper into her, and then relax her legs and I would pull out, only to be met with heels-in-the-ass again, pushing little Kumbu back in.
Goddam, the nerve of this girl! She was kind of fucking herself here, and I was an unwitting, delighted instrument of her pleasure. Hey, I was really enjoying this, except one thing started to bother me a little. Does this girl think of me as a dildo? Probably. I mean, that's fair. After all, what is she to me? A warm fuck sock?
Anyway, I gave myself up to the girl, allowing myself to be the instrument of her pleasure. I concentrated on restraining the increasing pressure to cum, and just focused on my breathing and relaxation. It was a kind of transcendental experience, with relatively little effort on my part, but allowing me to connect with myself in a way that I haven't for a long time.
After another 5-6 minutes, she tightened up, gritting her teeth for about 10 seconds, clutching at my shoulders, and then she whimpered a little, and the heels (thankfully) were removed from my now-sweaty ass. I sensed that she was going to push me off, toss me aside like a used tool, and so I took back control. I started my own rhythm, and slowly, gently, but surely moved myself through the paces, ejaculating satisfyingly, and without further note.
We lay there a few minutes, sweaty and tired, me still inside her. I then gently pulled out, and scampered for the shower. Wash, then her turn, and when she emerged, it was clear to her that I wanted her out. So she didn't make the awkward offer to stay the "night", now about 5:30 am. So I paid her 4000 baht, and she smiled, kissed me on the cheek, gave me her Line ID, and departed. Never to be seen again.
She was a good lay, I have to say. But she just felt grumpy the whole time, even as she was orgasming. And it kind of dulls the pleasure when the one you are doing it with seems morose, or not overly enthusiastic. Ultimately, on my first night here, after a 20 hour trip from the ruins that are my United States, fatigued and blurry-eyed, Nit did the trick. But I can do better. And better I shall do.
Blanquiceleste
03-07-19, 18:45
, But I can do better. And better I shall do.What a report! All Hail the return of the best storyteller on this thread. KUMBU I am a fan.
I can do better. And better I shall do.You do have a way with words. You made a relatively mundane encounter sound interesting. Kudos for that.
I emerged from the bowels of Suvarnabhumi into an atmosphere that could be cut with a dull spoon. The air was thick with humidity, smog and the scent of fresh pussy awaiting the gentle ravishings of Kumbu. Ultimately, on my first night here, after a 20 hour trip from the ruins that are my United States, fatigued and blurry-eyed, Nit did the trick. But I can do better. And better I shall do.Thoroughly enjoyed that report bud, nicely done. Look forward to reading about your further conquests.
Have a ball of a time.
Wow. Shades of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." LOL. I had no idea there were so many Cum On rather than Cum In punters in my midst. My BBFS+CIP ways seem to be more and more unremarkable and conventional all the time.I came of age in the 80's and porn was mainly come on. I just think it's great to frost the cake.
TigressWanted
03-08-19, 04:36
Now that I've wrapped up my third visit to Bangkok, one thing is clear, I've heard many times women reach their peak sexual prime at age 35. I've found that to be true as far as responsiveness (she orgasms during oral) in my Thai encounters. Had some good sex with twenty-somethings but the women who came, and came wildly, were mid-thirties. One thing could factor in I suppose, I'm late 50's so perhaps the younger ones just weren't into it with an older gent. What say you?
Smoothy, I was just wondering if it is fairly well known among some of the girls in the bars you mentioned and/or do you generally mention to the girl upfront what your interests are with regard to pulling out or engaging in oral sex only to the point of your orgasm and then quickly shifting to a Cum On Face or Cum On Body finish. If so, it seems to me that would go a long way to encountering many more girls who will not make nearly as big a deal about you wearing a condom as when the girl assumes the bareback punter would go all the way to a CIP finish.For me it is quite the opposite. Girl has said okay No condom, but don't cum inside me. Okay So I am promised to pull out, which results in COB. This is more easy to clean up than CIP. No girl has requested me to pull out for the express purpose of cum on her face, in her hair etc. Nor even to CIM. But hey, overly raunchy ugly girls are not my scene. Some of my girls would be in conservative category, probably only one of my regulars can do porn star style.
Even if the girl takes the pill accidental pregnancy is possible and a big nuisance since many girls are religiously opposed to abortion, so pull out has the added benefit of making a pregnancy less likely, especially if the girl does not take the pill that reliably. Withdrawal method is not incredibly safe on its own. Many pregnancies did result from that method alone. I don't really know the science if sperm can come out at all before cum, but maybe some guys did not withdraw in time.
Pull out means the girl trusts you or she has the experience to know exactly when the explosion is about to happen, and will jank it out. I prefer to be trusted and pull it out myself.
However there is no pleasure for me whatsoever to see my own cum. It is just mess to be cleaned up. Porn has not trained me at all. Porn is mainly stupid. Guys are not getting to put cock in completely since it spoils the camera action. When doing CIP they have to pull nearly out so camera can see the dripping goo better. All immensely silly to me. I don't watch any Bukake stuff. I go for beautifully erotic porn with slim girls, even artistic style at times. Ha ha. Does not even have to have any cocks appearing at all (cock is of no interest except if going into a beautiful pussy). Not exactly a normal porn watcher at all. Fast Forward past BBBJs. I do get amused though at Asian porn because I see that Japanese guys have to make a quite short stroke of the dick in pussy, because the dick is not very long and camera still wants to see it LOL, compared to the western male pornstars obviously chosen for dick length, so I guess mostly longer than the average guy. Clearly Japanese with enormous dick, hardly exist, they seem to be all more average sized. Off on a tangent again, but most porn is not very exciting for me.
The Bar Girl's name was Am or Ahn, if you enter nana plaza its the first bar on the left side on round floor, where she approached. It was 1.30 am and needed some relief. Anyway, I am immediately approached and made to sit down in one particular seat. Then a drinks menu is shoved in my face, I can't drink goes stomach was upset from bad food, I explained to them after a long time they agreed although trying to guilt trip me for only choosing water. Which BTW was insanely overpriced for Thailand. So then I talk to the girl, she seemed lovely, very young looking, slightly naive, and in a rush to "capture" me, so I though she may be more than a starfish in bed.
Anyway I tell her I'll walk around and come back soon, I just want to see the other girls as my first time in Nana Plaza (which was true). To this she really resisted. I told her I promise I'll come back if there's nothing else. After a while they let me go. The whole bar was very forceful and constrictive, literally trying to rip the money out of my wallet. Jesus. Anyway, I walked out and found another girl on level 2, this one was outside the bar, in regular clothes just chilling with a drink. Maybe she had finished. This one was hotter too and more chill, seemed more mature and experienced. I like her more viscerally where as the former girl I liked in a sweeter way. Anyway I asked this girl if she would come back to the hotel with me and she said yes, for 2500 baht.
I thought about it but decided to go with the other girl. I imagined since she was more naive or needy she might do a better job, have more of a connection. So I went back to her. Now previously they had told me 2500 baht, this time they made it 3400 with some additional fees. After a ton of haggling I got them to settle for 2700 Baht, and was out of there (still seemed expensive to me for this girl) and they seem joyed so I'm sure it was normally even less. Anyways. So we walk to my hotel go in the room and the way back was fine. Small talk etc. She takes a shower and sits on the bed, I take a quick shower and come out.
Now she's very quiet and avoiding, she tried to get me hard with her hand, soon as I am hard she puts on a condom (I feel very less with condom, and usually need lot of touch action to get hard with condom), but she avoids any body touching, just wants me to lie down and stay still. She didn't suck, she didn't do anything. Her agenda was the same, and it was hopeless, anyway, of course her lame condom handjob didn't work for an hour until I told her to just go home. What did I learn? Do not pay for a girl until you can be sure what kind of experience it will be in bed, take no chances, otherwise rely on the reviews here.
However there is no pleasure for me whatsoever to see my own cum. It is just mess to be cleaned up. Porn has not trained me at all. Porn is mainly stupid. Guys are not getting to put cock in completely since it spoils the camera action. When doing CIP they have to pull nearly out so camera can see the dripping goo better. All immensely silly to me. I don't watch any Bukake stuff. I go for beautifully erotic porn with slim girls, even artistic style at times. Ha ha. Does not even have to have any cocks appearing at all (cock is of no interest except if going into a beautiful pussy). Not exactly a normal porn watcher at all. Fast Forward past BBBJs. I do get amused though at Asian porn because I see that Japanese guys have to make a quite short stroke of the dick in pussy, because the dick is not very long and camera still wants to see it LOL, compared to the western male pornstars obviously chosen for dick length, so I guess mostly longer than the average guy. Clearly Japanese with enormous dick, hardly exist, they seem to be all more average sized. Off on a tangent again, but most porn is not very exciting for me.I usually stop watching when the guy is going to cum on girl's boobs or tummy. I found no pleasure from it either. But I know, it's subjective and some do find pleasure from it and it's ok.
I rarely watch porn but when I do go for erotic stuff (more like female friendly) like New Sensations or Xerotic or even Digital playground has some good stuff.
Couple of days back, I opened my TF app, after a long while and messaged some of the girls. I got 60% responses and most of them made it clear they're freelancer. Good, saves a lot of time. After doing some screening based on looks, price and services, I went with one girl. Asked her for Line ID and she gave it. She offered ST for 3000. Based on her pics she sent via Line, it was a decent price. I could've said "yes".
But, I was not going to accept defeat so easily. I said "one shot and massage, 1500". She countered it with 2000. I said, "nope, 1500". She said that 500 is her round trip taxi fare, she lives at bang na. I didn't reply for couple of minutes, next message came, "when do you want to meet?" LOL. I asked her to come ASAP. She said she'll come after taking shower. Awesome, I went to gym and lifted some weight till she came. Forget to tell, she also offered threesome with her friend for 5000, I didn't entertained it at that time.
After around 50 minutes, she message me that she's at lobby of my condo. I went down to pick her. When I saw her, god, she looked gorgeous. She was not skinny and quite pretty. She was wearing a black dress. And black is phenomenal colour, it's hard to look bad in it. You really have screw it up to look bad in black LOL.
After taking her to my room, we showered as usual. When she took her dress off, I realised she is big. Not Melissa McCarthy big but more-like Beyonce/ Christina Hendricks (Suits) kinda big. I have been fucking skinny birds for a while in Bangkok and I thought it was time for some change. But real fun started when we get into bed.
She started with oil massage. And I started to break the ice like usual questions where she lives, with whom, does she has a kid (she has a 6 months old girl, but no cut mark on her tummy). She was everything I like in girl, hot, funny, and witty, who can hold her end of conversation. And we talked for like 40 minutes, while she massaged me and it was pretty awesome. It wasn't erotic massage like boobs rubbing my back but she put some good pressure on body parts.
When I lying on my back, and she was massaging my legs, I thought, enough of talking let me get my hands dirty. I sat up and started kissing her books. They were HUGE, can't grab them by hands kind of huge. I took her bra and she took her panty off and we were kissing for couple of minutes. And she was quite good, no resistance or trying to stop. She was in it completely. I was already hard.
Then she started the BBBJ. She started with licking and kissing my balls, and the sensation was out-of-world. She played my balls more than my shaft. But once she started the BJ, in couple of seconds she went deep throat, WTF. I was surprised as it was out of nowhere and I never expect girl to deep throat on her own. Then we kissed each other's body and she tried put the rubber on my dick. Now, pay attention, here's a lesson. Always have a condom with you in your room. The one she bring was so small, there was no way it would have fit me. So, I took mine and handed it to her. She tried to start with WOT but I grabbed her and put her on bed. And started with mis. At that time I found out she's a moaner. Like a loud moaner. Plus unlike many other WGs I've met, she participates, by moving her hips and kissing / biting my neck and holding me tight. I can still feel those bites on my neck. I've met girls who just lie down like dead fish. After banging her for 10 good minutes, moved to doggy. Damn the view from behind was phenomenal. I won't go into too much details, we moved to WOT and I came in that position.
After shower, I gave her 1500 + 500 tip. Asked her to show pics of the other girl, she was suggesting for threesome. She did and the girl was super hot. 23-25, isaan-ish kinda white, and skinny. I assured her that next week, we'll meet for 3 threesome.
Now, she wasn't a looker like 8-9, I would say 6. 5 (though it's subjective) but the GFE I got was one of the best in BKK. And for 1. 5 K (plus tip), it was pretty damn good.
WIR: Damn yes, next week with her and her friend.
P.S.: She said she was 25, and from her looks, I had no reason to doubt.
LittleBigMan
03-08-19, 10:31
For me it is quite the opposite. Girl has said okay No condom, but don't cum inside me. Okay So I am promised to pull out, which results in COB. This is more easy to clean up than CIP. No girl has requested me to pull out for the express purpose of cum on her face, in her hair etc. Nor even to CIM. But hey, overly raunchy ugly girls are not my scene. Some of my girls would be in conservative category, probably only one of my regulars can do porn star style.
Even if the girl takes the pill accidental pregnancy is possible and a big nuisance since many girls are religiously opposed to abortion, so pull out has the added benefit of making a pregnancy less likely, especially if the girl does not take the pill that reliably. Withdrawal method is not incredibly safe on its own. Many pregnancies did result from that method alone. I don't really know the science if sperm can come out at all before cum, but maybe some guys did not withdraw in time.
Pull out means the girl trusts you or she has the experience to know exactly when the explosion is about to happen, and will jank it out. I prefer to be trusted and pull it out myself.
However there is no pleasure for me whatsoever to see my own cum. It is just mess to be cleaned up. Porn has not trained me at all. Porn is mainly stupid. Guys are not getting to put cock in completely since it spoils the camera action. When doing CIP they have to pull nearly out so camera can see the dripping goo better. All immensely silly to me. I don't watch any Bukake stuff. I go for beautifully erotic porn with slim girls, even artistic style at times. Ha ha. Does not even have to have any cocks appearing at all (cock is of no interest except if going into a beautiful pussy). Not exactly a normal porn watcher at all. Fast Forward past BBBJs. I do get amused though at Asian porn because I see that Japanese guys have to make a quite short stroke of the dick in pussy, because the dick is not very long and camera still wants to see it LOL, compared to the western male pornstars obviously chosen for dick length, so I guess mostly longer than the average guy. Clearly Japanese with enormous dick, hardly exist, they seem to be all more average sized. Off on a tangent again, but most porn is not very exciting for me.One of my best and memorable class I took for extra credit when I attended State College this one class ( sex education with some live participants ) was packed it seems every student wanted in on this class maybe because it just wasn't boring?
It lecture included how to prevent pre-ejaculation and technique. Another to this day I still remember that is the withdraw method said it was for the uneducated and ignorant, he cited the stats for countries that had the largest population. Many of those countries were in Asia. In an actual film that was shown it shows a guy playing with himself basically choking his chicken the camera zoom before the guy even got started or erected there was a small film of cum on the tip, that amount put under a microscope show hundreds if not thousands of sperm in that small amount. He ended by saying ' all it takes is ONE energize gun ho to swim up the canal and hit the target!
I can attest to this system it doesn't work I was one of those uneducated and Ignorant guys who let his little head do the thinking in the backseat of my roomy 1968 Chevy 396, luckily my girlfriend and I were just too young and had an abortion. That doesn't mean I learn my lesson through the years in China and here in Thailand I have slipped only human? My biggest scared was around 9 years ago I met this MILF look like 25 on the Darkside, we hit it off, I BF her took her to a few Thai clubs had a great time instead of a room she suggested her place if I can do it without A / see or hot water. No problem back to her place finished the bottle of Sangsome after we went at it like rabbits so fast forgot about the condom. She continues to work the bar whenever we met up there were times we use the condom sometimes I didn't I just wasn't my discipline self there were times she called me and said come over I'm horny and even knowing what I just told you I did the withdraw method.
One day, I got a call she said if I can come over and bring her something to eat, I did when I got there I could see she wasn't herself the story she told me she just had an abortion. I once told her if she told me she was having a baby I would walk if she refuses to have an abortion. As I noted she was a MILF and already had two kids the reason she started working in the bars at 18 years old. Why she was telling me this since she didn't say at any time it was yours but she was telling me because I was also her friend and that at her age no way she would have a baby to trap a customer. That she had spent here savings getting the abortion and that she needed some money to tie her over rent etc until she gets back on her feet.
I was playing it cool at the same time inside I was jumping for joy I mean jumping she could have ask me for a 100,000 baht and I would have given it to her, instead she asks for 15,000 thereafter we still got together but I put on a condom. A year later she met up with an older farang guy and threw me under the bus the guy ended up marrying her I just happen to bump into her the day before her wedding and we talked about old times she claimed the baby was LBM?
But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt.
As night falling winter has come without a star
Here you will dwell, bound to your grief, under the fading trees, until all the world has changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent.I always loved that Elrond's scene in the Lord of the Rings. It always struck me as a lament about the inexorable March of time, but in reading it now, I realize it's more complicated than that. It's more about the loss of an opportunity, which is amplified by the March of time.
After the anal heeling I received from glum Nit on Wed night, I needed something a little more predictable. So I buzzed an old acquaintance, someone I dubbed Diamond back in 2016. She was a girl I had bedded several times back in 2016, and you can read about our first encounter here (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1891337#post1891337).
In short, I picked her up at Climax, she had a super, super set of legs and ass, though her face was marginal at best. We did lengthy sessions of DATY, none of which ended with her orgasming. She said she just was hard to bring to orgasm, nothing personal. Each time, we did have some decent sex afterwards. She had the physique to enjoy, which is why I repeated back in 2016, and that is why I wanted to see her. I needed some leg flesh, and I wanted a mouthful of gluteus maximus.
I texted her (didn't have her Line ID), and she texted right back saying she remembers me, and do I want her to come to my hotel. Wow, that was quick. And that was eager. We arranged for her to come to my hotel at 3 pm, and she turned up at 3:15. I met her in the lobby, and when she walked up, she was wearing one of those face masks to help with the dirty air. I didn't recognize her at first (mask and all), but when I looked down at her legs, bingo. That's her. My balls were suddenly ablaze with tingling and desire. That's the ticket: that's what I have been craving!
She came up to me, keeping the mask on, and giggled a little. I figured she was enjoying the confused look on my face. Kind of odd. We sat in the lobby, mask still on, and I asked her how she was doing. She said fine, then paused, and then said, "But I'm still in pain".
Pain from what, I asked? And then she took the mask off. My balls, which had been swinging and twisting to the soundtrack of Chubby Checkers (come on baby, let's do the twist) suddenly stopped, shriveled, and ascended into the pit of my stomach.
When she removed the mask, it revealed a hideous, disfigured and grotesque face that I had no recollection of. It was clearly the same girl, but someone had taken a sledge hammer to her face. It was large, puffed up, and just disfigured. To make matters worse, she was wearing colored contact lenses, adding the image of unnaturalness. I physically recoiled, to my great shame, and she saw that immediately. So she explained.
She said that 4 months ago she had surgery on the bones in her face. What?! Bones in your face? Surgery? WTF?! I asked her, "But. Wwwwwhhhhhyyyyyyy?" And she said she did not want to talk about it. Over the course of the next few hours I slowly discovered that she had tried to get facial reconstruction surgery. She wanted new cheekbones, and a new jaw line, and the doctor had basically drilled out parts of her cheekbones. Her face was puffy and had been this way for 4 months. She only just gained the ability to eat solid foods, to which I immediately thought "So no BBBJ then I guess". Yikes, I'm cold hearted, eh?
So anyway, I am totally torn at this point. Her face was like something out of a Clive Barker novel, so I could never fuck her. But then her legs. But her face was giving me chills and nightmares as we sat there in the lobby. But then her legs. I could not touch her face, nor could she move very well, nor give me a blow job. But her legs. What do I do? What do I do?
So up to the room we went, of course. When we got in there, I gave her a gentle hug, and laid her down on the bed. We talked a little. She was still the fun girl I remembered, just with a face that I could not look at directly. After 10 minutes, she took a shower, and I sat on the bed breathing. Ok Kumbu, buck up muther fucker, you got to gather the courage and fuck that monster, ok? She has legs to die for, her pussy is still a pussy. Unless she had reconstructive surgery there too? And her legs, for the love of god, her legs!
She came out wrapped in a towel and lay down pliantly on the bed. During the course of the ensuring conversation, I slowly unwrapped the towel to reveal breasts that were slightly sagging and stretch marked. She said that because she had not been able to eat, she had lost some breast size (hence sagging), and yet because of the pain in her face, she has gained some weight around her midsection. I inspected, and I have to say her midsection was just fine. Her breasts were looking a little tired, but I'm not a breast man, so fuck it.
I finally managed to go down to the showpieces, which were her ass and her legs. I ran my fingers gently down the front of her legs, and then wrapped my hands around the back of her legs and slowly, lustfully pulled them back up the backside. They were as gorgeous and shapely as ever, to my great delight. I wrapped my hands around her hips, and slowly moved her onto her belly to inspect her ass.
In 2016, this ass was magnificent. It was round, firm, ample, but definitely not big. It was shapely and apple shaped and just a joy to hold and caress. I looked upon her ass now, and all I could hear were Elrond's words in my mind. Her ass had lost a lot of its shape. It was almost as if someone had taken a pin to it and deflated it. The roundness was gone, and there was a large smudge of dark, hardened skin along the middle of it, and up to the small of her back. That was where the roundness had been kept, but now without that roundness, it had turned into darker skin. I was witnessing first hand the inexorable March of time, with the decay of a once gorgeous obelisk, being reduced to rubble, and soon to be sand.
But goddam, her legs! Now THAT is the dedication of a leg man, right?
Anyway, I turned her back over with dismay, and my hard on had pretty much disappeared. WTF do I do now? I can't fuck her man. I just can't.
As she lay there, naked, I looked down at her pussy. It was freshly shaved. I asked her if she had shaved for me, and she said yes. She said she had not had anyone in more than 4 months, since the surgery, and when I texted, her pussy told her to get on it ASAP. Hah!
Hmm, in 2016 I had done DATY for hours on her, all to no avail. It had baffled me why that was, but now. There was a chance. That I might be able to get her over the top. If she has not had sex in months, this might be my opportunity to climb the hill that refused to be climbed. So off to work I went.
I got down there and did the dirty. I put her face out of my mind and focused on her gorgeous little pussy. It was as small and tidy as I remembered it: small tiny little lips, and pert little clit hidden within the hood, and not much else to speak about. I worked and worked, and slowly she started to moan. And moan. And moan.
I remember in 2016 that was as far as I would get. But now, her moans were getting louder. They were getting more intense. And after about 15 minutes, she reaches down and grabs my head and starts to guide my face, rhythmically. This was awesome since I could stop thinking and let her do all the work, using my head as a tool. And as that happened, she grabbed my skull harder and started to face-fuck me harder and harder. My nose was getting rammed into her pubic bone, and my tongue was getting pressed really hard against her clit. Her moans were getting louder than I expected, and pussy juice started to dribble out profusely.
She face fucked me for another 2-3 minutes before she tensed up, let out a high-pitched moan, and then collapsed into a puddle of whimpering.
There. Done. She released my skull from her vice grip, and I rolled out to take a few big breathes of air. Damn, that was the second time in less than 24 hours that I have been used as a dildo. Maybe I should take that as a message.
I told her to go take a shower, and she asked why I did not want to fuck her. I said I am tired, and I am happy to have pleasured her. That was good enough for her. After her shower, I was eager to get her out, so I paid her 1500 baht and booted her out. On the way out she gave me her Line ID, but goddam, I think I will not be repeating with her. I felt sorry for her, but that ain't the reason I am here. I'm not on a humanitarian mission here, I am on a fucking trip. And fucking is what I shall do tonight.
Next is a report on my visit to the ladies of Thermae. Foreshadowing: it was Awe-fucking-some.
.... before the guy even got started or erected there was a small film of cum on the tip, that amount put under a microscope show hundreds if not thousands of sperm in that small amount. He ended by saying ' all it takes is ONE energize gun ho to swim up the canal and hit the target!
Statistics say that for every 100 girls using withdrawal method, about 4 will get pregnant, from what I read, so it must be semi effective, even if one of the most unreliable methods. In conjunction with a 2nd method used together, the odds become more remote.
I have known girls taking the pill (supposedly) to get pregnant as well. Better not name them here, even though the names could be familiar to some. Bargirls seem to manage pregnancies a lot, probably through carelessness.
I got this off the web:
"Your chance of becoming pregnant from pre-cum may be slim, but it can still happen. Sperm can still be present in the urethra and mix with pre-cum that's released before ejaculation. . That means that for every five times you have sex, you could get pregnant. ".
A little vague rather than scientific, but may have some sense to it.
I remember once going for STD test after an eye infection of unknown type, and the doctor took a swab from dick and indicated she did not see any tell tale bacteria under the microscope, but she did see plenty of sperm swimming around. Ha ha. My last cum had not been that long ago. Maybe only an hour or two earlier. I forget now. So there is a question, how long can sperm live inside the dick after a cum, before they will die? Some guys fuck so many times per day, they will never be safe. Ha ha.
Usually when I got a BBFS and pulled out, was quite a long time after the last cum, however girl should take the pill as well or get injection as well, or something, unless she can't get pregnant anyway.
LittleBigMan
03-08-19, 15:32
Statistics say that for every 100 girls using withdrawal method, about 4 will get pregnant, from what I read, so it must be semi effective, even if one of the most unreliable methods. In conjunction with a 2nd method used together, the odds become more remote.
I have known girls taking the pill (supposedly) to get pregnant as well. Better not name them here, even though the names could be familiar to some. Bargirls seem to manage pregnancies a lot, probably through carelessness.
I got this off the web:
"Your chance of becoming pregnant from pre-cum may be slim, but it can still happen. Sperm can still be present in the urethra and mix with pre-cum that's released before ejaculation. . That means that for every five times you have sex, you could get pregnant. ".
A little vague rather than scientific, but may have some sense to it.
I remember once going for STD test after an eye infection of unknown type, and the doctor took a swab from dick and indicated she did not see any tell tale bacteria under the microscope, but she did see plenty of sperm swimming around. Ha ha. My last cum had not been that long ago. Maybe only an hour or two earlier. I forget now. So there is a question, how long can sperm live inside the dick after a cum, before they will die? Some guys fuck so many times per day, they will never be safe. Ha ha.
Usually when I got a BBFS and pulled out, was quite a long time after the last cum, however girl should take the pill as well or get injection as well, or something, unless she can't get pregnant anyway.Don't disagree with what you are saying or the stats, but how would you like to be one of the four out of a hundred? When you are talking about the pill I also agree, you miss one time it throws the whole thing off balance? Then when you talk about the pills here in Thailand especially the ones made can you really trust them to be effective. There seem to be expensive and cheap ones when it comes to Thais how many working girls are really going to get the more expensive effective ones if there is such a thing?
My son and his wife both young our granddaughter is 11 months I'm scared to death about another one so are they because they are still children themselves they understand now the responsibility and have had the conversation with my son about proper birth control most of all self-control? I've indicated if she needs to have injection let me know I went as far as telling him get snip or have her tube tied, told him pills or injection still strap on a condom jokingly of course what I don't joke about is if there is another baby you two are on your own.
Not science I feel as you get older your less of a chance right now I get accused that I'm faking it with some girls that I didn't cum since there is barely any cum in the condom, I just attribute it to the statins I'm taking and age I figure my sperm count is low or all dried up so fewer chances? But having to take care of another child at my age or even hearing it has me in sweats. My regular visit at my legit massage place 3 times each week so I can get some peace for two hours the ladies call me serious? I joke if another one comes I'm going over to Sukhumvit to the overpass and jump as soon as the Chinese tour bus comes.
I do everything I can to cover up because I'm too scare to get LBM snipped? I don't want to be one of the four out of 100.
Now that I've wrapped up my third visit to Bangkok, one thing is clear, I've heard many times women reach their peak sexual prime at age 35. I've found that to be true as far as responsiveness (she orgasms during oral) in my Thai encounters. Had some good sex with twenty-somethings but the women who came, and came wildly, were mid-thirties. One thing could factor in I suppose, I'm late 50's so perhaps the younger ones just weren't into it with an older gent. What say you?Yep I reckon the later is more likely. I am seeing girls less responsive to me than 20 years ago, however some still very responsive, but I don't see a great correlation between the age of the girl and how easily or wildly they can cum. I am slightly older than you, not in horrible shape, probably better than the average guy my age, but no spunk either.
My GF can cum with 2 to 3 minutes from DATY or with the right stimulation, and multiple times, is in her late 30's but was the same when she was 25. If anything she maybe a bit less semsitive than when I first met her. Don't see she is much wilder, although maybe in the mood a bit more often which I put down to alcohol consumption being the leg opener, and / or Ganja (weed), and lack of a stressful life.
I know very sexually experienced girls in their early 20's that cum very easy and others that are difficult. Just varies, but I don't see age as a big factor. Lack of finding the man appealing could certainly be a factor though. Otherwise I just can't explain the big increase in dud girls over my experience from 20 years ago, here in Thailand.
A very definite factor for how easily girls cum, can be how long since their last cum. Those that cum too much get jaded by it. Girls that missed out for a few days or more can explode quickly, yes even hookers. If anyone tells you hookers never get it off, I really think they are deluding themselves. Their is no law against it. Hookers can get good sex or bad sex. It depends on the guy, his skills, and their mood, how long since the last cum, and if they are fresh or tired.
Anyone is permitted to get some enjoyment from work. It is up to the individual and how likeable is the customer. Sure there are starfish girls who seem to resist all stimulation and those that won't allow DATY for long for fear of losing control. Plenty of girls do lose control at times though, young or old.
If older girls get sex less often than younger girls, that may make them seem hornier, naturally.
Some hookers, if not shy, will finger themselves during sex to help get it off. I don't think it is always just to put on a show. The older ones maybe less shy to do that.
Did not meet that many girls really into it, on soi 4 or in the Thermae (in recent years), so depends on the type of girl and her attitude to the expected types of customer. I guess these are girls more into quick turnaround, and money is the main thing in their mind, not really allowing for a good time, because the next customer will be in short time hopefully. Perhaps bargirls are better for me, and even some MP girls, because they are less expecting an immediately following customer, not so scared of losing energy.
In bars with Milfs, they like old Farangs, where young Thermae girls probably mostly do not. I have to be realistic. I have experienced passionate orgasmic 18 Year olds too, but a lot more of them when I was younger. My training to do superior DATY came when I was age 35, from a 25 Year Old Thai girl, since she said it needed improvement. Skills alone may not be enough to turn every girl on though. Some just don't want it, not looking for fun.
One young ex bargirl about 22 could cum only on occasions, not easy at all, at least not easy with me, perhaps needing a very high energy fuck ideally, however last meeting she seemed to cum quicker than ever before (from DATY), simply she had not been getting any for a while. Same as guys cum much quicker if did not get a cum at all for a while. Can be that simple. Hookers returning from a holiday or long break, much wilder than usual in my experience.
Don't disagree with what you are saying or the stats, but how would you like to be one of the four out of a hundred? Yes I don't want to be one of the 4, whether with GF or anyone else. I know my GF would definitely not get an abortion, she is too religious. So I hope she is reliably taking the pill. I could consider the vasectomy path, as I certainly do not need a baby at my age. Never had one before either. So far not one of the unlucky ones.
Medicines do have side effects, I already have certain condition (strange allergic reactions) probably resulting from past strong medication, so I try to resist many things these days, and go for healthy diet instead. Still I am forced to take Gout medication or would be crippled by foot pain. Was limping badly a year or two back. Fortunately no Statins for me.
Bargirls seem to manage pregnancies a lot, probably through carelessness.I've also got an unproven theory that the inevitable doses and back yard abortions that bar girls pick up over time severely limit their fertility. This may partly explain why those that do not use contraception while bare backing still may not fall pregnant.
Enjoy. G.
There. Done. She released my skull from her vice grip, and I rolled out to take a few big breathes of air. Damn, that was the second time in less than 24 hours that I have been used as a dildo. Maybe I should take that as a message..Laughed out loud. Love the Kumbu style.
Kudos Kumbu.
Couple of days back, I opened my TF app, after a long while and messaged some of the girls. I got 60% responses and most of them made it clear they're freelancer. Good, saves a lot of time. After doing some screening based on looks, price and services, I went with one girl. Asked her for Line ID and she gave it. She offered ST for 3000. Based on her pics she sent via Line, it was a decent price. I could've said "yes".
But, I was not going to accept defeat so easily. I said "one shot and massage, 1500". She countered it with 2000. I said, "nope, 1500". She said that 500 is her round trip taxi fare, she lives at bang na. I didn't reply for couple of minutes, next message came, "when do you want to meet?" LOL. I asked her to come ASAP. She said she'll come after taking shower. Awesome, I went to gym and lifted some weight till she came. Forget to tell, she also offered threesome with her friend for 5000, I didn't entertained it at that time.
After around 50 minutes, she message me that she's at lobby of my condo. I went down to pick her. When I saw her, god, she looked gorgeous. She was not skinny and quite pretty. She was wearing a black dress. And black is phenomenal colour, it's hard to look bad in it. You really have screw it up to look bad in black LOL.
After taking her to my room, we showered as usual. When she took her dress off, I realised she is big. Not Melissa McCarthy big but more-like Beyonce/ Christina Hendricks (Suits) kinda big. I have been fucking skinny birds for a while in Bangkok and I thought it was time for some change. But real fun started when we get into bed..Nice post. She visited about 5 months ago and can confirm your report. Not a repeat for me since she's thicker than my preference but can say she's a good girl. Had no idea 3 some was available though. Did have to BB (YMMV) due to small condom. Seemed anal was available but without a raincoat didn't attempt.
WIR: Damn yes, next week with her and her friend.
P.S.: She said she was 25, and from her looks, I had no reason to doubt.Good score off TF bud. Nicely done.
That 3 way is something to look forward to for sure, especially if there's a lot of GOGA.
Appreciate the pics. As much as I enjoy reading and envisaging the posters perception of his girl with descriptive word usage and story telling, I find the addition of a photo or 2 or 10, a whole lot more informative, interesting and appealing. So thanks for that.
Damn, that was the second time in less than 24 hours that I have been used as a dildo. Maybe I should take that as a message.That's killer 😂 😂 😂.
I felt sorry for her, but that ain't the reason I am here. I'm not on a humanitarian mission here, I am on a fucking trip. And fucking is what I shall do tonight.Fuckin A. I would've done the same. Perhaps the mask on would've helped, but with the deterioration of the ass, I fully understand.
I rarely watch porn but when I do go for erotic stuff (more like female friendly) like New Sensations or Xerotic or even Digital playground has some good stuff.I fucking love watching porn. Especially. . . My own 😍 😁 😁. For research and improvement purposes of course. 😏.
I only had two days to spend in Bangkok, so I wanted to try to sample a few different types of experiences:
Day 1. #1. BJ SALON: Decided to start off with BJ salon, and went to 7-heaven. Chose a cute lady, Soda, from the lineup of pictures. Went for the BJ + COF option (1800 Baht) - this place is more expensive than some of the other BJ salon, but the girls seem to be hotter to me. I went with the COF option because I hadn't cum in a few days and figured I'd have a big load. Like I told with many of the girls at 7-heaven, the BBBJ is not deep at all, just a little beyond the head, so if you like a deepthroat BJ, this is clearly not the place. Despite this, I came rather quickly. Actually CIM before she realized what was happening and pulled it out and kept stroking for a nice COF. This happened within the 10 minute time limit, so another shot was on order. The second was somewhat disappointing as she barely performed BBBJ for a few minutes before switching to a handjob and finishing me off. Overall, was OK, but not a place I will likely return to.
Day 1. FREELANCER BAR: #2 After being mildly disappointed, I decided to check out the freelancer scene at Thermae. It was only about 9:30 PM on a Thursday but the club was pretty packed. Maybe 70-80 girls and 50-60 guys. You have to buy a drink upon entry, but that is about it. I walked around the loop inside several times to choose my lady. Lots of beautiful girls on hand. Many 8's and 9's. I spoke with a few, and really liked one shy girl, Nam (26 years old). Definitely at least a 9, incredibly beautiful. She quoted 3000 Baht for short time (all covered sex, light kissing, one shot). I told her, I recalled the pricing to be closer to 2500 Baht, and she said I may be able to get that with other girls but she was firm on the pricing. I decided to walk around a few more times, but I couldn't find any one I liked more, so I went back and told her I would take her. It was a good decision. We took a taxi back to my hotel. After showers, we slipped into bed. She was shy but very sweet. She had a beautiful all-natural figure. I have heard some horror stories of disappointment in the figures (scars, saggy tits, etc) once the clothes came off. But not the case with Nam. Standard LFK, CBJ, and Sex. But was passionated and unrushed. Really a great experience. I would highly recommend her. However, she is there uncommonly. She is a smart lady and works as a nursing assistant, and comes occasionally to earn a bit of extra money when she needs it. I think this is probably the case with many of the freelancers at Thermae.
Day 2. #1 NURU MASSAGE: I went to Doki Doki Massage based on all the excellent reviews and because I really like Nuru massages. I selected Helen who has a great body for Nuru. 3000 baht for one hour. Started with a typical soapy bath on the mattress followed by the nuru massage with proper nuru gel. The ladies at Doki Doki are very well-trained I think. Body-to-body was great and she licked all over as well with lots of rimming. BBBJ and then covered sex. Overall, a great experience. One I will want to repeat.
Day 2. #2. MILKING TABLE 2 GIRLS: I went to Analisa massage because I understood they used milking tables (they call it a glory hole). Chose the 4-hand (two girl) Tantra massage for 90 minutes. Expensive at 3800 Baht, but I actually think worth it. Chose Cake and Anna from the iPad photo lineup. I think the photos must be a little old / doctored. I had made an appointment but arrived early so had to wait a bit until Anna was ready. When the girls came to get me, I was a little disappointed in their appearance -- more 6's. They were both nice enough. It was a little annoying initially as they were extensively talking with each other in Thai as they were doing the massage (initially bare hands, and then with oil), which made you feel like you only had a quarter of their attention. They asked me how many shots I wanted. I said two, because on the pricing list it said this service included two shots. However, these girls indicated that I could have essentially as many as I wanted, and asked if I could do three. I declined and said two was fine. They were asking this to help them organize their timing during the massage. After about 25-30 minutes they told me it was time for the first shot. One of the girls (Cake) went below the table and started stroking my cock, while Anna was giving me a nice B2 B massage with tits on my back. I had one other milking table experience before but with one girl, and so the 2nd girl on top was a nice addition. After I shot my load, they continued with massage until it was time for round two. This time I was lying on my back. They gave me a prostate massage, then a brief CBJ, and then handjob to finish. Overall, a worthwhile experience, and one I would recommend if you have had a milking table fantasy.
Good score off TF bud. Nicely done.
That 3 way is something to look forward to for sure, especially if there's a lot of GOGA.
Appreciate the pics. As much as I enjoy reading and envisaging the posters perception of his girl with descriptive word usage and story telling, I find the addition of a photo or 2 or 10, a whole lot more informative, interesting and appealing. So thanks for that.Thanks man. As a reader pictures really help.
And yes, looking forward to 3 some, especially because the girl she showed on her phone so hot.
I fucking love watching porn. Especially. . . My own 😍 😁 😁. For research and improvement purposes of course. 😏.Haha of course you do. You're on some other level man. You've turned many WGs into pornstars LOL.
Day 12.
With my confidence reaching new highs and endurance levels comparable to Olympians (physique not so much), I started out my day by heading to a nearby BJ bar in Thong Lor called Bunny massage. Wanted to kill 2 birds with 1 stone so a happy ending massage after breaky was ideal. The lineup was minimal, 4 girls present at that hour. Girls were average at best, but young Nene boasting what looked like a nice set of see's was most appealing. Price was 900 for 50 minutes BJ package. Headed upstairs to the room, had a quick wash down, and lay down for Nene's performance. Started off with a light 10 minute massage which was okay, but I hastily turned over for the real massage. She began quite enthusiastically, showing off her varied BBBJ skills expecting me to be a regular 10 minute popper, but little did she know that she was up against a well practiced near 3 week long marathon fucking machine. 20 minutes in, watching her head bob up and down and further stimulus was required. Some topless titty eye candy was in order. So I casually asked her to remove her top, so I could see her set of 'see's. She said she couldn't because I didn't discuss it with the mamasan. So I said fuck the mamasan, I'll give her a tip to see the tits. She agreed and began removing her top. Whips off the bra and fuck sakes, a set of tiny 32 A's hidden behind a thickly padded see cup bra. The fucking con artist just looked at me and smiled shyly. That's just fucked up. I hope she knew the meaning of open locked jaw because I wasn't going to let that slide. I mean the only reason I chose her were because of her tits, and now there weren't any. So I grabbed some finger tips full, just to say well, and let her proceed with her task at hand. Her skills were pretty good, she used mostly her mouth, very sloppy and pleasurable, but she lacked experience, she lacked the knowledge of how to become one with the cock, she had no sense of what the beating and throbbing meant, she couldn't read between the veins. Every time I got close to spilling, she'd stop for a break or go down to lick my balls again. She ended up blowing me for a further 40 minutes, going way over the time constrain. So to finally put her out of her misery, I gave her some simple advice which included using both her hands and all her saliva to jerk me off, while blowing me at the same time. It was a lesson she will remember forever, as within 5 minutes I fired off in her mouth with her lips sucking off every drop. Was a fantastic CIM. Nene was great, I prefer BJ's with no hands, but only if deep throating is a possibility. After she spat out and brushed her teeth, she told me that she doesn't usually take a CIM but she wanted to make me happy because I took so long to cum. Wise words by a smart girl, as she received a 200 thb tip and I fucked off to do some shopping.
After my afternoon shopping spree at Emquartier, I headed to the BTS to get back home. At the platform, I saw an absolute stunner of a girl standing alone waiting for the train. I know this to be a regular occurrence in Bkk so didn't think much of it, until we both got off at Thong Lor. As I mentioned earlier, my confidence levels were so high after all the ordinary girls and freelancers I fucked, dates I went on and bedding my Holly's coffee girl who was 1 of the hottest woman I had seen in Bkk, that no approachable woman was out of my range. So I went up to her, tapped her on the shoulder and said Hi. She stopped, smiled and looked at me as I popped my phone in front of her face. I had translated an English greeting and compliment to her in Thai. She looked confusedly at the screen, so I asked her if she understood the translation, and she said No in English. I then asked if she was Thai, and she said no, she's Korean. LOL, oops. So I began chatting to her and asked what she was doing in Thailand, and she said she's on holiday. I then asked where she was heading to, and she said her hotel. So I asked her if she'd like to get some coffee, and first she shook her head as she wasn't expecting me to be hitting on her, I'm guessing she thought I was looking for directions initially, but after I chatted a bit more, she said okay, but just a few minutes. So we headed off to Goodfellas a quaint little coffee shop I had frequented and ordered some cappuccinos. She was really cute, and had a voluptuous figure hidden behind her body hugging sheath dress. All I could think about was pressing up against her naked body and DFK her luscious looking lips. I fucking tried my best to flirt, persuade and seduce her to my apartment, but alas she wouldn't budge. Said she was heading out the next morning to Krabi so wanted to pack and get an early rest. She did say I could meet her when she returned the following week, but I wouldn't have been in Thailand then. She had something called Kaokao talk messenger which I didn't have, so just swapped contact numbers and went our separate ways.
It was Friday night and I had a lot of options open. I could've repeated most of the girls I had met. I was getting Line messages the entire day as most of the girls knew I was leaving on Sunday. But new pussy was always the priority so I decided to check out Thermae one last time as I hadn't been there on a weekend, so wanted to check out the vibe. Hit the cheapskate back entrance as usual at around 12 am. Drifted around twice and spotted my top 3 for the night. Saw mostly new faces and just a couple of familiar ones, but neither of my previous pick ups. I had developed a new strategy for Thermae, and this time I was about to implement it. Feeling cocky and confident, I didn't even bother about the swarms of Asian guys present, by now I knew they were merely a waste of space as most were just wallowing window shoppers. On all 3 trips I could count how many guys actually took girls out. So with that in mind, I approached number 3 who kept looking at me whenever I glanced in her direction. She was standing in front of 2 other girls that weren't my type. As I got closer, her defensive measures were deployed, a fold of the arms, a look away and a diminished smile. I knew exactly what she was going to say, but proceeded anyway. When I was in touching distance she began the shake of the head, looked at me and said 'sorry, I only go with Asians', to which I replied, 'That's nice, but I want to speak to the girl behind you', signalling her to move aside, 'Kor Thod kap, can I get passed?' The look on her face was fucking priceless! She scooted over in shock, so I could kick up a conversation with the average girl behind her. I just greeted the other girl, said she looked suay mak which brought a huge smile to her face. She said she'll go with me for 2500. I said, okay but maybe later. She gave me her name, and asked if I wanted her number, so I took it down, thanked her and said goodbye. As I squeezed passed number 3, I said, 'sorry about that, but you're not my type'. And I walked off feeling her staring daggers at my back.
Number 2 on the list reminded me of my 1st Thermae girl, very prissy and posh looking but expressionless and pouty. However version 2 had a seriously sexy figure on her. She was sitting at the centre bar towards the back end of Thermae. I stood near her for a while and then approached her, leaned in and whispered, 'Do you only go with Asian guys, or do you go with handsome guys too?' She burst out laughing, and for the first time, I saw her beautiful smile and her face light up. She was even more beautiful up close. She just smiled at me and said, she's going to go home, and doesn't want to go with anyone. I said that's fine, but perhaps I could meet her another time. And she agreed, so I got her Line and phone number, thanked her and left.
That was 2 strikes, but I didn't really care. I was confident I could get number 2 after Thermae closed. My number 1 for the night was easily the hottest girl at Thermae that night. I had watched her red card 2 other guys who stopped to chat previously. Strangely enough, they were Asian dudes, but looked like they just got out of bed with their sleep pants and slops on. I headed to the bar and got an orange juice, she was standing in a group of 4 girls just to the side of the till counter near the entrance. I walked up to her, and did the exact same routine, 'Do you only go with Asian guys, or do you go with handsome guys too?' Both her friend and her cracked up in laughter. I took another sip of my drink and awaited her response. She bit her lip and asked where I was staying, so I told her it's a Thong Lor apartment. She said okay, she'll go for 3500 thb ST because it's far away. Honestly, I didn't even consider negotiating, I accepted and smiled. She said I could finish my drink and we'll head off. I moved over to the bar to finish up my drink and as I did another Asian dude approached her, and got shutdown. She was a very pretty girl, too pretty, with contacts, perfect makeup, beautiful skin and a husky voice which made me wonder. . . As we headed out, I asked if she was a LB, and she started laughing. She said that LB's aren't allowed in there, the owner forbids it, but she showed me her ID card anyway and started laughing. I just told her that she was very beautiful and her husky voice was the reason I asked.
Back at my apartment, this stunning 26 year old was really cool, friendly and interesting. Got chatting about her job as a MAC cosmetics consultant, her family etc, said it was only her 3rd time at Thermae, and decided to join her friend who goes there regularly. Soon enough, she hit the shower as I awaited her on the bed. She got out and joined me as I unwrapped the towel to inspect the goods. Wow, aside from her trimmed Bush, this girl was flawless. Perfectly enhanced see-cups, nice enough ass, beautiful skin, no tattoos, no scarring, sexy legs and an inviting pussy that I couldn't wait to taste. But first the BJ request, which she didn't even blink at, and began arousing me with a b2 be rub over, using her hard perky nipples like acupuncture needles trying to pierce my pressure points, while kissing all over my body and stroking my boy to get him hard. She was very hygiene conscious, and wiped my dick with a wet wipe and tissue before she began a pleasurable oral exercise with plenty of nut sack licking, sucking and stroking. Just seeing her beautiful face at the end of my cock was a sight to behold. Again after the BJ, she wiped him off with tissues then got on her back so I could begin some foreplay of my own. She did DFK, but not a lot and too much licking on her neck caused her some concern as her skin was very sensitive (I did see the red marks it caused later on, confirming this), so I just enjoyed her beautiful tits, belly, thighs and legs, and got back up to her pussy for some delectable cunnilingus cuisine. She was so tasty and a pleasure to please. Her sweet sensual moans just spurred me on as I grappled her to climax. There were no safe words with her, she would just tap out on my arm and on the bed like I was a UFC jiu jitsu fighter keeping her pussy in a tongue lock. Her clit became overly sensitive after orgasm, and even with the tap outs, I was relentless. I wanted to make her squirm in pure punctilious pleasure. This was a no 'holes' barred contest, and her cute asshole got a tongue fucking too. With all orifices sodomized by my saliva, I was finally ready to penetrate her cum-hithering pussy. Rubbered up, and began a half an hour frantic fuck session with plenty of positions, which ended in a flat doggy CIP. Cartoon is beautiful, but I appreciate that she can also take a pounding without complaints. She's not exactly GFE, or PSE, and she's certainly not a starfish. She's just a hottie that you want to fuck, who will try and please you the best she can with most requests, and in the process, looks fucking beautiful doing it. And that's the reason that she was the first girl I repeated the very next night.
Gents, I am willing to share her Line details to help her out, as the following night she opened up a bit more as to why she started freelancing. So for guys who are in BKK who are not time-wasters, and interested in her, send me a PM and let me know if you have any hotties to swap.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-09-19, 12:50
Walked by there today and was surprised to see it still open. I thought it had closed some time ago. Spoke to the old guy behind the counter and he said they would be open for another week, maybe two.
The Bar Girl's name was Am or Ahn, if you enter nana plaza its the first bar on the left side on round floor, where she approached.Lollipops, most likely.
It was 1.30 am and needed some relief. You're already at a disadvantage.
Anyway, I am immediately approached and made to sit down in one particular seat.No one can make you do anything. I've walked through that bar plenty of times, and many just like it in Thailand. Just say, 'No thank you" and keep walking.
Then a drinks menu is shoved in my face, I can't drink goes stomach was upset from bad food, I explained to them after a long time they agreed although trying to guilt trip me for only choosing water. Who gives a flying f* what they think. You want water, order water. You want a cranberry juice with a pink umbrella, order it.
Which BTW was insanely overpriced for Thailand. Ya think?
So then I talk to the girl, she seemed lovely, very young looking, slightly naive, and in a rush to "capture" me, so I though she may be more than a starfish in bed.Well, that's a generalized assessment, but not necessarily a bad one. There are ways to get a better indication.
Anyway I tell her I'll walk around and come back soon, I just want to see the other girls as my first time in Nana Plaza (which was true). This is your first time? This isn't going to end well.
To this she really resisted. I told her I promise I'll come back if there's nothing else. After a while they let me go. The whole bar was very forceful and constrictive, literally trying to rip the money out of my wallet. Jesus. You're there to spend. They're there to take it.
Anyway, I walked out and found another girl on level 2, this one was outside the bar, in regular clothes just chilling with a drink. Maybe she had finished. This one was hotter too and more chill, seemed more mature and experienced. I like her more viscerally where as the former girl I liked in a sweeter way. Anyway I asked this girl if she would come back to the hotel with me and she said yes, for 2500 baht.
I thought about it but decided to go with the other girl. You made an offer, she agreed and then you declined? That's kind of dick move.
I imagined since she was more naive or needy she might do a better job, have more of a connection. She either has a connection or doesn't. You can see that before you ever leave the bar.
So I went back to her. Now previously they had told me 2500 baht, this time they made it 3400 with some additional fees.That's with the bar fine added. That's standard everywhere in a Bangkok gogo.
After a ton of haggling I got them to settle for 2700 Baht, and was out of there (still seemed expensive to me for this girl) and they seem joyed so I'm sure it was normally even less. For a gogo bar in Nana Plaza in 2019, that's cheap. She must've been desperate (especially being late) and figured you'd pop quick. I can almost perfectly guess what happens next: disappointment.
Anyways. So we walk to my hotel go in the room and the way back was fine. Small talk etc. She takes a shower and sits on the bed, I take a quick shower and come out.
Now she's very quiet and avoiding, she tried to get me hard with her hand, soon as I am hard she puts on a condom (I feel very less with condom, and usually need lot of touch action to get hard with condom), but she avoids any body touching, just wants me to lie down and stay still. She didn't suck, she didn't do anything. Her agenda was the same, and it was hopeless, anyway, of course her lame condom handjob didn't work for an hour until I told her to just go home. What did I learn? Do not pay for a girl until you can be sure what kind of experience it will be in bed, take no chances, otherwise rely on the reviews here.You'll still never really know for sure until you're with her. They're not robots. My experience with a girl might be outstanding, and the next day with you might be terrible. Or vice versa.
Some of it is YOU. Not you as in you in particular, but with the MAN. If you're laid back, and fun and have some personality, they'll feel more comfortable and are more likely to get into it. If you're quiet and weird, or creepy, well, you might as well be an uncle trying to molest them. It just isn't going to be a good thing.
Part of making it work is how YOU interact with them.
Dubai Curious
03-09-19, 20:41
Day 12.
With my confidence reaching new highs and endurance levels comparable to Olympians (physique not so much), I started out my day by heading to a nearby BJ bar in Thong Lor called Bunny massage. Wanted to kill 2 birds with 1 stone so a happy ending massage after breaky was ideal. The lineup was minimal, 4 girls present at that hour. Girls were average at best, but young Nene boasting what looked like a nice set of see's was most appealing. Price was 900 for 50 minutes BJ package. Headed upstairs to the room, had a quick wash down, and lay down for Nene's performance. Started off with a light 10 minute massage which was okay, but I hastily turned over for the real massage. She began quite enthusiastically, showing off her varied BBBJ skills expecting me to be a regular 10 minute popper, but little did she know that she was up against a well practiced near 3 week long marathon fucking machine. 20 minutes in, watching her head bob up and down and further stimulus was required. Some topless titty eye candy was in order. So I casually asked her to remove her top, so I could see her set of 'see's. She said she couldn't because I didn't discuss it with the mamasan. So I said fuck the mamasan, I'll give her a tip to see the tits. She agreed and began removing her top. Whips off the bra and fuck sakes, a set of tiny 32 A's hidden behind a thickly padded see cup bra. The fucking con artist just looked at me and smiled shyly. That's just fucked up. I hope she knew the meaning of open locked jaw because I wasn't going to let that slide. I mean the only reason I chose her were because of her tits, and now there weren't any. So I grabbed some finger tips full, just to say well, and let her proceed with her task at hand. Her skills were pretty good, she used mostly her mouth, very sloppy and pleasurable, but she lacked experience, she lacked the knowledge of how to become one with the cock, she had no sense of what the beating and throbbing meant, she couldn't read between the veins. Every time I got close to spilling, s. I wanted to make her squirm in pure punctilious pleasure. This was a no 'holes' barred contest, and her cute asshole got a tongue fucking too. With all orifices sodomized by my saliva, I was finally ready to penetrate her cum-hithering pussy. Rubbered up, and began a half an hour frantic fuck session with plenty of positions, which ended in a flat doggy CIP. Cartoon is beautiful, but I appreciate that she can also take a pounding without complaints. She's not exactly GFE, or PSE, and she's certainly not a starfish. She's just a hottie that you want to fuck, who will try and please you the best she can with most requests, and in the process, looks fucking beautiful doing it. And that's the reason that she was the first girl I repeated the very next night.
Gents, I am willing to share her Line details to help her out, as the following night she opened up a bit more as to why she started freelancing. So for guys who are in BKK who are not time-wasters, and interested in her, send me a PM and let me know if you have any hotties to swap.Nice Report.
I already PM you. Please provide information as I seek.
Happy mongering.
DC.
Christian G
03-09-19, 20:49
When I was in touching distance she began the shake of the head, looked at me and said 'sorry, I only go with Asians', to which I replied, 'That's nice, but I want to speak to the girl behind you', signalling her to move aside, 'Kor Thod kap, can I get passed?' The look on her face was fucking priceless! She scooted over in shock, so I could kick up a conversation with the average girl behind her. I just greeted the other girl, said she looked suay mak which brought a huge smile to her face. She said she'll go with me for 2500. I said, okay but maybe later. She gave me her name, and asked if I wanted her number, so I took it down, thanked her and said goodbye. As I squeezed passed number 3, I said, 'sorry about that, but you're not my type'. And I walked off feeling her staring daggers at my back.Great. The Best answer ever.
I stood near her for a while and then approached her, leaned in and whispered, 'Do you only go with Asian guys, or do you go with handsome guys too?' She burst out laughing, and for the first time, I saw her beautiful smile and her face light up. LOL too funny.
So I'm in Bangkok tomorrow and up till Wednesday. Anyone interested in tagging along for pub hopping and possibly engage in a threesome / gangbang? If so PM me.
See ya.
Fair warning: this is a very conceited post. But it is purposely so, because as you will see in a future post, I eventually eat some humble pie.
I often proclaim my devotion to the silky elegance of a shapely female leg. There's something sophisticated about leg worship, in a way you can't really say for other kinds of worship. I think of boob guys as glutenous and greedy (for the boob flesh), and I think of ass guys as beer guzzling brutes, just interested in getting up there in the ass and doing the nasty. Truth be told, I am a little of everything (as are most of us), but the predilection towards leggy lasses definitely prevails for ol' Kumbu. And so whenever I enter a mongering establishment, my gaze drifts downwards, looking for a particular shape, a particular proportion, a certain symmetry. But tonight, I broke the mould, and in so doing, nearly broke little Kumbu. Read on for the details.
I've heard and read a lot about Thermae recently, some good and some not. There's no way to find out than to, well, find out. So on Th evening I decided to make an early evening of it and left my hotel at 7:50 sharp, hoping to be at Thermae about 5 minutes past 8 pm. Sadly, on the way there, I got some stomach cramps and I high tailed it, butt clenched with all my strength, back to my hotel to extirpate the violaters from within me. Sorry to be graphic, but that explains why I was not there at opening, which is something I wanted to do. Anyway, I got there around 8:45 pm.
I walked in, and there were a bunch of oldish Japanese guys standing in front of the bar area, refusing to get out of the way. The boys in blue were shouting at them to get their asses moving, but they were not particularly interested. Anyway, it took a full 10 minutes to get a drink, and when I did I turned around to look at what all the nonsense has been about.
Before me were about 120 girls of beddable age, waiting to be fucked. Yep, that's the up and down of it. Girls, standing around, waiting to be picked and fucked. Simple as that. Sure, these girls have some agency in that they can reject whoever they want, but seriously, if you pull out the right kind of cash and / or moves, you could have any one of these girls. You just need a superb absence of shame or self-doubt, as we saw in Siamsin's most excellent recent post (line of the century: do you only go with Asian guys, or do you go with handsome guys too?
But with respect, I'm going to take a slightly different tac than Siamsin and others. Thermae is far more complicated than that, at least to the discerning monger. I'm not suggesting anyone else is not a discerning monger, but please allow me to explain. It's the difference between drinking a glass of the house merlot versus actually knowing a little something about wine. Sure, the house wine will give you that little kick that you need. Often that's all you want, and in those cases, ordering the house wine is exactly what one should do. But once you know how to appreciate fine wine, then you realize what you have been missing. So it is with Thermae (and much else in the world). You could go and drop your cash on the first set of legs (or boobs, or buns, or whatever) you want, go back to the hotel, ejaculate into a warm vessel of some kind (vagina, mouth, condom, whatever), and fall asleep with a silly grin on your face. Or you could be more discerning in your selection, pick the girl with whom you have the greatest chemistry, have a long and slow "courting" process, then go back to the hotel and continue that long, slow, pleasureful process for several hours, until. . . You ejaculate into a warm vessel of some kind (vagina, mouth, condom, whatever), and fall asleep with a silly grin on your face. The ultimate outcome may be the same, but the process in getting there is where the true pleasure lies.
Thermae has a bar area in the front to the left when you enter, and then some seating in the middle and some seating at the back. As many of you know, Thermae's system is to have women wait around the edges of the venue while men walk around (in a clockwise direction), ogling, smiling, and then propositioning. The propositioning is not particularly involved. It's something like:
Monger: Hello, my name is Horny, what's yours?
Girlie: My name is Willfuckformoney. Nice to meet you Horny.
Monger: Nice to meet you Willfuckformoney. You go with me short time for 2500 baht?
Girlie: Kaa.Simple. Sweet. To the point. The weird thing is that for the non-sociopaths amongst us, it is inordinately weird to look someone in the face and then just walk away. But you need to suspend your normal human instincts and pretend for a moment that you are in a fantasy in which you can fuck any woman you want without having to put on the airs of politeness or decency. It's very unusual indeed.
Anyway, the men walk around in a wave-like motion. The men tend to clump together as they walk, so you get a series of bunches of men, followed by gaps in the wave, then another bunch of men. It's all very peristalsis like, which is a wonderful image indeed, isn't it? I was ready to enter the wave just as one bung of men began to move through the bowels of Thermae.
Determined not to be part of the big turd in front of me, I held back so I could walk through the penetrating eyes by myself. This was for maximum exposure. I wanted them to all see that I, King Kumbu, had arrived. They may curtsey if they pleased, but whatever they did, they had better notice me, goddammit. So I began the slow walk, looking each girl over from head to toe.
I counted as I went along, just so I would be able to report some statistics to you folks. So at around 9 pm on a Thursday night, there were about 120 women in there, and about 60-70 men. Yes, the ratio was decidedly in my favor. Of those 120, I would say a full 30% were top notch lookers. I mean, super cute in some way or another. Not all of them would meet your standards, but they were girls that we could all agree are top drawer stuff. Another 30% were do-able, but not the kinds you would want to write a long-winded ISG post about. Ehem. And the remaining 40% were definite no-nos. They were either long in the tooth, or crazy in the eye, or droopy in the boob, or inflated in the belly, or ugly in the face, or what have you.
I walked through the procession, looking left and then right, inspecting as I went. And as I did, my the analytical side of my brain kicked in. While I was walking, I started catrgorizing women into various categories. I created two typologies of working girls in Thermae (and anywhere, really), and tried to place each girl somewhere in each typology. Here's what I mean.
First, about appearance. Girls fall into roughly 4 categories.
Tier 1: Stunning and gorgeous. These girls have elaborate hair jobs, lots of fake eye lashes and stuff, carefully bleached skin, etc. These are the show dolls designed to attract the Manga-Fantasy Japanese Salariman. They are the dolls. The delicate flowers. "Oh so pretty, I might break her".
Tier 2: Less outrageously dolled up, but genuinely attractive. This is my group of women. Simply good looking, well put together, of the appropriate age, and not particularly grizzled by the ravishes of time. Well-proportioned, nothing fake about them, with a spark in the eye.
Tier 3: The fuckable ones, the ones you go to if you strike out with the other two categories.
Tier 4: Everything else. This is chaff for the wheat, so you need to filter them out somehow.
Second, seemingly randomly distributed within the girls are those girls who give you some eye.
Class 1: they give you a quick looksie and then look away.
Class 2: they give you a quick looksie, then look away, and then look again.
Class 3: they give you a quick looksie, look away, then look back and smile.
Class 4: they don't look.
Class 4 girls are dead to you. Don't fucking bother with them. That's my advise. They are not looking at you because they don't want to go with you. If you press your case, you may get them into your hotel room, but it will be a cold, clinical experience designed to extract more baht than cum. There are exceptions, like that bastard Siamsin, who seems to be able to open up even the most tightly clenched sphincter of a woman (I kid, bro), but for most of us mortals, if we pick a Class 4 girl, we are destined for a cold evening. In my humble opinion, you are far better off identifying Class 1-3 girls. In fact, you really should be looking for Class 3 girls.
Now, the trick to maximizing the utility of your mongering experience is to find the intersection of the right sets above. What I look for is the intersection of Tier 2 and Class 3. Those are the girls that work best for me. I've tried Tier 1 girls, and they are too prissy, but can still be fun (if they intersect with Class 2 or 3). I've also tried Class 1, 2 and 4, and they are all far, far, substandard to Class 3 girls.
The issue is that you have to suspend your instinct to go for Tier 1 girls. Really, the thing that works best is to find Class 3 girls of the highest Tier. Ok, lesson over students, there will be a test at the end.
So as I walked around, I spied two girls who were just busting out of their brassieres trying to smile at me. It was like they thought I was the dentist and they were showing me all 32 of their teeth. Lovely, Class 3 has been identified. Of the two, one of them looked solidly in Tier 2, while the other looked to be in Tier 3. So the better of the two was a pretty thing that looked to be in her mid-twenties. She was wearing a short black dress, revealing nice, solid legs. I noticed a tattoo on her right shin, which in one way was pleasing (tattoos means a slightly rougher personality, which is good), but it also spoiled the clean lines of her legs. I abhor the desecration of a perfectly good pair of legs. She had some cleavage showing, but you never know with the push-up bras and stuff. Fuckin' push-up bras, I'the like to fucking kill whoever invented that.
So anyway, I was only beginning the proctological examination of the insides of Thermae, so I could not commit just yet. I carried on, and as I turned the corner at the back, I saw a couple of other lookers on the left. But they were giving me no lovin', so I walked on. I came around and started making my way back towards the front, and again I noticed a group of really sexy young women. They must have been in their early twenties, and they fell into Class 1. So some attention, but not too much. I carried on, and I got a couple of elbow tugs and when I turned, they were all older ladies. So no thanks.
I got back to the front now. I hung out a few minutes, and then went around again, paying close attention to my two dental patients. They were still there and their teeth were still gleaming. It's nice to have fans like this. I walked past them, much to their disappointment, and went around back to check out those twenty-somethings. I stood in the back, near the tables they have there, where the girls could take a good long hard look at me. And look they did.
One girl in particular looked especially ravishing. She had tattoos all up her right arm lots and lots of them. She had gorgeous hair, and was wearing a frilly black dress. She was seated, so I could not see the shape of her hips or ass, but I could see some very lovely leggage. She looked to be, I dunno, 22? How the fuck can you tell these days? Anyway, she was young. Her hair flared backwards from her face, kind of creating a focusing effect on her sharp features. Her jawline was the epitome of elegance, and her neck looked like it was woven from Jim Thompson silk. And most adorable of all, she had eyes that were ever so slightly cock-eyed, creating that puzzled little puppy dog kind of look. Not sure why I find that attractive, but reason is not part of this calculation.
So I stood there, feeling kind of vulnerable, it should be said. I was out there, with roughly 100 eyeballs on me. Some were looking with disdain, some with indifference, and some with mild optimism. But the girls of my attention were falling squarely in Class 2. I was hoping for an upgrade from the puppy dog beauty, so I hung around to see if I would get even the glimmer of a smile. As I stood there, hopefully, I was being picked out by sharp-shooter girls from all over the room. They were sending their signals from this way and that, and I parried them expertly. These girls were not in that sweet spot of Tier 2 and Class 3, but were more of the Tier 3 and Tier 4 girls, from just fuckable to absolutely unfuckable lard asses (thank you Silvio, for that most eloquent and timeless quote).
I stood there a good 15 minutes, but puppy dog never thawed. She kept looking at me, but never did a hint of a smile cross her face. I pondered taking the gamble. After all, what's the worst thing that could happen? Yep, those of you who are paying attention know the answer: you ejaculate into a warm vessel of some kind (vagina, mouth, condom, whatever), and fall asleep with a silly grin on your face. But luckily for me, my mental fortitude won out over my testicular impetuousness. Translation: I walked.
As I walked past her, I locked eyes with her, well, with one of her eyes (the other was off at 2 o'clock), and gave her my most smug and confident smile I could muster, as if to say, "Honey, you just lost out on some serious cash. " I walked past the old buzzards on that side of the bar, circled around and went in search of some dental hygiene.
And as I turned the corner, there she was, and as she saw me, that huge smile just bounced back onto her face. Her eyes were wide open, and I could see her back arch slightly at the sight of me. Goddam, that kind of reaction is one fuck of an aphrodisiac. So I walked up to her and said:
Kumbu: Sawad dii krap.
32-teeth: Sawad dii kaa, how are you kaa?
Kumbu: Much better now. How are you?
32-teeth: Welly good, thank you kaa.
Kumbu: What's your name?
32-teeth: Patiikaa.
Kumbu: Nice to meet you Patiikaa. My name is Kumbu.
Patiikaa: um, no. Nice to meet you Kumbu. You welly handsumm kaa.
Kumbu: You welly pliti.
Patiikaa: Thank you. Where you flom kaa?
Kumbu: America. Let me guess, you are from Thailand?
Patiikaa: Yes. I like man from Amelikaa.
Kumbu: Hey, you want to come with me?
Patiikaa: Yes, thank you kaa.And off we went. She grabbed her bag, and out the door we went. A taxi dude came and grabbed me by the crook of my elbow and I shook him off and walked another 10 yards, and then hailed a taxi. We took the short taxi ride back to the hotel, during which we chatted.
Kumbu: Sorry, could you tell me your name again?
Patiikaa: Patiikaa.
Kumbu: Patiikaa? Hmm.
Patiikaa: No, Patiikaa.
Kumbu: . . .
Patiikaa: You know in Thailand, lady say kaa after everything for polite.
Kumbu: Doh! Your name is Patty?!
Patiikaa: Chai kaa.
Kumbu: Doh.
Patty: it's ok kaa. You welly funny kaa.As we chatted, I noticed that she had put her hand in mine the whole way. She had attached herself to me like a total GF, and she was smiling the whole time. She was buzzing with excitement, and was just very into it, it seemed. She whispered to me that she wants to take care of me, and wants me to be happy. All this is what a monger looks for. It bodes well for the bedroom activities. Man, I made a seriously good decision to not go for the cock-eyed puppy dog in Thermae.
When we got to the room, she jumped onto the bed and just started chatting away. Her English was not great, but what she lacked in linguistic abilities she made up for in personality. She told me that she was 27 years old, and works full time as an MC at malls for various events. She goes to Thermae only on some days, like once or twice a week, since she's busy otherwise.
As we chatted, I slowly disrobed, and when I was in my boxers, she jumps up and announces that we would take a shower together. I kind of prefer showering by myself I don't need the fumbling and stuff. But she would have none of it. She wanted this to be part of the experience. That's another excellent indicator.
So she drops all her clothes, and holy fucking hell, my mind exploded with the visual brilliance that stood before me. She was perhaps 5'5" tall with legs that were, well, not long, but not short. But more importantly, she had breasts that were simply fabulous. They were easily third letter of the alphabet sized (fucking autocorrect to 'see' - I fucking hate that! And absolutely pert and perky. I mean, when I looked at them, they were pointed upwards. And they were 100% natural, no silicone, no funny business. Goddam, this was the fucking jackpot.
Look, I know I started the post with a soliloquy about the wonder of female legs, and I belittle boob-lovers, but shit, when presented with twin peaks such as these, all hell breaks loose in your pants. I wanted them in my hands and my mouth, and there was no two ways about it.
So into the shower we went, and as she soaped up my asshole, I was busy soaping those two ginormous puppies. And of course, as I did that, I pressed and pushed and lifted and dropped them with great abandon, and they were so goddam firm, it was incredible. Let me say again: they are totally, 100% real. This was the freak of nature we all dream about. Boobs this size are not supposed to be this firm, but firm they were. This was going to be good.
Anyway, asshole cleaned, ball sack washed off, we exited and popped onto the bed. And of course, needless to say, I went to town on those puppies. I was gentle, but certain about what I wanted, and she gladly provided me with my desires. I sucked for a good 10 minutes, and she was into it, actually.
Once my tongue and lips had tired, I started exploring the rest of her body. I kissed around her belly, which was firm, but not flat, and then around her hips down to her legs. I kissed her legs up and down a few times, with her giggling the whole time, before I settled down into her gorgeous little pussy.
She had no lips to speak of. I mean, her pussy kind of just opened up like a slit in a piece of cloth. She had a decent sized clit hidden in there, but no lips to suck on at all. So I slathered her pussy with my tongue, giving it a total top to bottom wiping with the flat midsection of my tongue, and she gave out a long, tense aaaaah. I dug right into her clit, rubbing it this way and that, and just gave it my all for a good 3-4 minutes, and as I did that my hands were upstretched to her breasts, and I was playing with her nipples as I sucked. Awesomeness epitomized!
And to my great surprise, after a total of maybe 6-7 minutes of DATY, she whimpered, and relaxed a little. I thought this was just a little crescendo, and I should continue, but after about 30 seconds, she whispers "I finit". She finished. Wow, that was quick.
I looked her in the eye, held out my hand and said "1000 baht please. " She slapped my hand away and said in a demanding but playful way, "You have condom?" But of course, m'lady. On goes my Trojan and in goes Mr. Kumbu. She hopped onto me CG style, and of course, with two ginormous bazooms presented to my face, I had no choice but to suck as we fucked. Man, this is the life large boobs filling my face, beautiful ass in my hands, and my dick deep inside a gorgeous pussy. Why do I live in the USA again?
And then, after just 5-6 minutes of this, she arches her back, grits her teeth, and let's out a loud, long, ooooaaaoooaaaahhh! And she whispers "I finit again". So we cooled it for a few seconds as she rested up, and then we went to it again. She was doing a really good job in CG. It required that she do squats constantly, which is quite tough, but she was managing. And because of this, she had broken a sweat doing so. But again, after another 5-6 minutes, she tightens up, oooohs, and then sheepishly says "I finit again. ".
Goddam, this girl is so fucking easy to get off! We switch position into missionary and I start doing the work. I do my thang for a few minutes, then grab her boobs and suck away to my hearts content, then switch her to her side and spoon while entering her from behind, and over and some prone bone into her luscious butt cheeks (no anal). And then I switch her back into missionary and about 5 minutes later, I start to feel the urge. And coincidentally, she started to crescendo too, so I decided to throw in the towel and do a simultaneous orgasm with her. And so we came, both of us together, and her for the fourth time that night.
We laid there for 10 minutes, chatting and giggling. We then showered together again, and we chatted for another 15 minutes after. I gave her 3000 baht and a kiss on the cheek on the way out. We never discussed money, by the way, and afterwards she sent me a thank you by Line, so I am assuming 3000 was a good amount.
Overall, this was a fabulous experience. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Thermae, as far as I am concerned. Yes, it's weird, but so the fuck what? Just be patient, look for those Class 3 girls, and use your instincts, and you will succeed.
That was Th night. On Fri night I decided to try NEP, and goddam, I had one of the best gogo experiences I've had in years. A real fire cracker, which you shall read just as soon as I get a chance to write it up.
And as promised, students, here is the test I promised you:
Question: What is the intersection of Class 4 and Tier 4?
Answer: Marriage.
She was seated, so I could not see the shape of her hips or ass, but I could see some very lovely leggage.Biceps. For a girl sitting at a bar, nether regions hidden, biceps are the most important part of her body. They act as a mirror of her unseen midriff, hips and legs. A girl with large flabby upper arms will never impress when she walks away from the bar into full light. A girl with toned arms will delight with a flat stomach, pert arse and shapley legs.
Thermae's system is to have women wait around the edges of the venue while men walk around (in a clockwise direction)Am I correct in saying that doubling back and swimming against the tide for a revisit is a mortal sin and likely to tilt the earth off its axis?
Thanks for a great post.
Enjoy. G.
Biceps. For a girl sitting at a bar, nether regions hidden, biceps are the most important part of her body. They act as a mirror of her unseen midriff, hips and legs. A girl with large flabby upper arms will never impress when she walks away from the bar into full light. A girl with toned arms will delight with a flat stomach, pert arse and shapley legsThis syncs up with my skinny arm theory. When faced with a lineup (or a sea of woman) sometimes they tend to blur together. So many acceptable choices can be overwhelming, and in my case result in temporary brain inpairment LOL.
My 'narrow down the herd' mechanism is to focus on the woman with the skinniest arms. It is typically a good tell for a lean body / tight butt / smaller top, which is my preferred body type.
SL.
Another brilliant report mate. Well done. It's the perfect insight and analysis into how Thermae operates and a great trouble shooting guide to equip a first timer. Wish I had this info available 2 months back.
You just need a superb absence of shame or self-doubtCouldn't agree with you more, you hit the nail on the head. As a newbie going there alone, it's rather daunting. But like another member (forgot who it was) recently mentioned, Thermae is probably best visited solo. You appreciate it more, and so do the girls.
They were easily third letter of the alphabet sized (fucking autocorrect to 'see') - I fucking hate that! Most annoying, along with b2 be (b 2 b) and * (c unt). Is * too vulgar but pussy is ok? Which * decided that * shouldn't be allowed, such a * ish move. Some of my favourite jokes has * in it. Q: Two tampons walking down the road, what did 1 say to the other? A: Nothing because they're both stuck up * s.
she whispers "I finit". She finished.LMAO, dude, I laughed so much when I read this bit. Brought back so many memories because that's exactly how the girls pronounce it.
Awesome stuff Kumbu. Looking forward to the next report.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-11-19, 06:43
Went on a Happy Hour tour of the clubs on Soi Cowboy last night: Sharks had no good-looking girls; Dollhouse had one fairly-nice looking girl upstairs; Lighthouse had a pretty, slim girl with the ugliest knees I have ever seen. I could not stop staring at them in disbelief; Five Star all naked MILFs, some with notable baby damage, except for the bleached blond slim girl, who seems out place there; Tilac had so few girls spread out over such a big space I didn't bother staying for a drink; Long Gun had 5-6 naked chubby MILFs on stage so left without getting a drink.
On Friday I had gone to Mandarin in Nana Plaza and saw no one attractive (to the extent I could see anyone at all, given how dark it was on stage). Went then to Billboard; maybe 1-2 fairly attractive topless girls in the bath area, mostly MILFs on the carousel, maybe 1-2 attractive. Popped into Butterflies to see whether they had topless girls. They did but did not stay because I was headed to get a massage and fuck before the place closed.
I don't remember the quality of the girls in the clubs being this bad when I was here last September. Facially, the gogo girls in these clubs are to me no better than the oily massage girls, and not worth the higher cost and higher risk of getting someone who wants to finish the session as soon as she can so she can get back to the club to hustle more drinks or get another short-time. Perhaps other clubs have better-looking girls, so will check them out to see.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-11-19, 07:14
After my Soi Cowboy Happy Hour club tour, walked to Thermae at about 10:30 PM. Tried to find the secret entrance but couldn't (I found it later when I walked to the toilet area) so went in and bought a drink. Made the round a couple of times, then decided to count how many girls were attractive to me. Did the circle and counted about 18 or so. Later I decided to count how many women were there in total, and how many were attractive to me. I counted 210 women, so with the ones I missed or busy upstairs or in the toilet, probably about 225-230, with about 20 attractive to me, so the standard 10% of women being fuckable applied there too. However, I never saw any "stunners".
When I was sitting at a table in the back and watching the flow of customers go by a possible answer to the question of why the women preferred Asians came to me. The majority of the Asians were young to middle-age, reasonably fit, and reasonably attractive. I only saw one old Asian guy. On the other hand, the few Farang and one South Asian type I saw were old and fat geezers. Given the choice between fucking a young, good-looking, fit Asian guy or an old, big-bellied white guy, if I were a woman working there, I would obviously chose the former. Add to that their 3 inches, 3 minutes, 3000 baht stereotype and the choice becomes even more compelling.
However, even though I am an old (but not big-bellied) geezer, I got smiles from a few of the ones I found attractive, and lots from the ones I didn't, including getting my arm tugged by a few grannies. However, I was pretty buzzed from 4 whiskeys in 2 hours on Soi Cowboy, and I am not usually a late night fucker, so I didn't follow though with any of the attractive smilers, and left after about an hour.
PoohKeyLover
03-11-19, 09:35
Went on a Happy Hour tour of the clubs on Soi Cowboy last night: Sharks had no good-looking girls; Dollhouse had one fairly-nice looking girl upstairs; Lighthouse had a pretty, slim girl with the ugliest knees I have ever seen. I could not stop staring at them in disbelief; Five Star all naked MILFs, some with notable baby damage, except for the bleached blond slim girl, who seems out place there; Tilac had so few girls spread out over such a big space I didn't bother staying for a drink; Long Gun had 5-6 naked chubby MILFs on stage so left without getting a drink.
On Friday I had gone to Mandarin in Nana Plaza and saw no one attractive (to the extent I could see anyone at all, given how dark it was on stage). Went then to Billboard; maybe 1-2 fairly attractive topless girls in the bath area, mostly MILFs on the carousel, maybe 1-2 attractive. Popped into Butterflies to see whether they had topless girls. They did but did not stay because I was headed to get a massage and fuck before the place closed.
I don't remember the quality of the girls in the clubs being this bad when I was here last September. Facially, the gogo girls in these clubs are to me no better than the oily massage girls, and not worth the higher cost and higher risk of getting someone who wants to finish the session as soon as she can so she can get back to the club to hustle more drinks or get another short-time. Perhaps other clubs have better-looking girls, so will check them out to see.I was in Billboard and Crazy House last night. I don't find many attractive ladies in Billboard. Crazy House have more attractive ladies for my taste and their girls are fully nude but their mamasans are more annoying. They will keep pestering you for lady drinks or bar fine someone.
After my Soi Cowboy Happy Hour club tour, walked to Thermae at about 10:30 PM. Tried to find the secret entrance but couldn't (I found it later when I walked to the toilet area) so went in and bought a drink. Made the round a couple of times, then decided to count how many girls were attractive to me. Did the circle and counted about 18 or so. Later I decided to count how many women were there in total, and how many were attractive to me. I counted 210 women, so with the ones I missed or busy upstairs or in the toilet, probably about 225-230, with about 20 attractive to me, so the standard 10% of women being fuckable applied there too. However, I never saw any "stunners".
When I was sitting at a table in the back and watching the flow of customers go by a possible answer to the question of why the women preferred Asians came to me. The majority of the Asians were young to middle-age, reasonably fit, and reasonably attractive. I only saw one old Asian guy. On the other hand, the few Farang and one South Asian type I saw were old and fat geezers. Given the choice between fucking a young, good-looking, fit Asian guy or an old, big-bellied white guy, if I were a woman working there, I would obviously chose the former. Add to that their 3 inches, 3 minutes, 3000 baht stereotype and the choice becomes even more compelling.
However, even though I am an old (but not big-bellied) geezer, I got smiles from a few of the ones I found attractive, and lots from the ones I didn't, including getting my arm tugged by a few grannies. However, I was pretty buzzed from 4 whiskeys in 2 hours on Soi Cowboy, and I am not usually a late night fucker, so I didn't follow though with any of the attractive smilers, and left after about an hour.10% that is a lot. Normally I find no more than about 3 really attractive to me, and has been less on occasion. Usually those three do not convey the right vibe though, either don't like me, or will not be fun girls. Some won't even look at me. I don't have the large belly either and still have hair, but still its obvious I am not young. I may well give off the asshole vibe, as it is noted I am not huge smiler when then is nothing funny happening. Most girls say I turn out to be much nicer than what they expected. Ha ha. I don't like to smile at girls too much in case they misinterpret and think I want them, before I have really decided, however I probably need to cultivate a fake smile I guess.
Usually the girls giving me the come on or tugging my arm are of no interest in this place.
Kumbu: Sawad dii krap.
32-teeth: Sawad dii kaa, how are you kaa?
Kumbu: Much better now. How are you?
32-teeth: Welly good, thank you kaa.
Kumbu: What's your name?
32-teeth: Patiikaa.
Kumbu: Nice to meet you Patiikaa. My name is Kumbu.
Patiikaa: um, no. Nice to meet you Kumbu. You welly handsumm kaa.
Kumbu: You welly pliti.
Patiikaa: Thank you. Where you flom kaa?
Kumbu: America. Let me guess, you are from Thailand?
Patiikaa: Yes. I like man from Amelikaa.
Kumbu: Hey, you want to come with me?
Patiikaa: Yes, thank you kaa. Thais trying to say the letter "R" in an English word does not sound like "L" in my opinion, at least in most words.
Quite the reverse. On my first trip to Thailand the Tuk Tuk driver appeared to say "Frame Tree" when was supposed to be "Flame Tree".
Thai language has an L and an R type of sound in a way, although both are different to the western letters.
Thai vowels are different to English mostly (closer to German vowels) and some other consonants are different too.
Thais are particularly poor at making an L sound as their tongue does not flick the top teeth as it should for a western L sound.
Thai R is using a wider mouth than a western R. So may not sound clear but equally does not sound like L (without a tongue flick).
Western R has a small round mouth shape, Thai R much wider mouth but they may roll their Rs for effect if they feel like it.
"Fried Rice" is never going to sound like "Flied Lice" at all here in Thailand, perhaps it does in some other Asian country.
Thais cannot pronounce "I Love you" well at all, unless high education.
Some Thai words have an L that is commonly dropped completely in speech (after G. Gor Gai sometimes spelled K).
Guay (should be Gluay) means banana.
Geua (should be Gleua) means salt.
Gua (should be Glua) means afraid.
Strangely Gaaw means Glue has no L at all. That tricked me as I thought is was a word borrowed from English originally.
Letter V does not exist in Thai. There is no SukhumVit road. ha ha.
So I heard plenty of "wery good" here in Thailand but never "Welly". Could your girl actually not have been Thai? Viet or Chinese ?
. . . a possible answer to the question of why the women preferred Asians came to me. The majority of the Asians were young to middle-age, reasonably fit, and reasonably attractive. A very plausible hypothesis, Jimmy. And I would agree with you. When I was there, I saw a South Indian dude getting enough attention, and he was in his thirties, well dressed, and did not look like a slob or stingy. I also saw some Japanese guys getting the cold shoulder. They were not particularly well-kept, and kind of out of shape. So this supports your idea.
Thais trying to say the letter "R" in an English word does not sound like "L" in my opinion, at least in most words. . . So I heard plenty of "wery good" here in Thailand but never "Welly". Could your girl actually not have been Thai? Viet or Chinese ?Definitely _L_ for _R_, Syzygies, I was listening carefully. You are right that it is not the same kind of substitution that you hear for Japanese speakers of English, but definitely "welly" for "very". I'm not doubting your linguistic acumen, but just saying, I was paying attention. The girl said she was from Bangkok, and even made a joke that because of her flat nose, people often think she is from Isaan. But she's a Bangkok girl through and through. So I have no answer for you, except for maybe we need more data on this issue.
Another brilliant report mate. Well done. It's the perfect insight and analysis into how Thermae operates and a great trouble shooting guide to equip a first timer. Thanks Siamsin. I would not have made the trip to Thermae had it not been for your reports, so thanks for that.
Biceps. For a girl sitting at a bar, nether regions hidden, biceps are the most important part of her body. They act as a mirror of her unseen midriff, hips and legs.Now THAT'S a testable hypothesis. It feels intuitively correct, so I will try it out tonight, as I head to Thermae again. Thanks.
Banana Boi
03-11-19, 13:46
women wait around the edges of the venue while men walk around (in a clockwise direction), ogling, smiling, and then propositioning. I walk counter clockwise in Thermae to be noticed more. I have been to Thermae with many guys who say the girls they like aren't smiling at them. I suggest to the guys to just go talk to them and I get the same answer "They're not into Farang only Asians". This is likely true in their personal life but not in the monger world. All girls are there to make a dollar. Go talk to whoever you find most attractive. Don't settle for #7 on you want list because #1-6 didn't smile at you! All girls like confident men. If you already look defeated before you start a female will detect that.
When I was sitting at a table in the back and watching the flow of customers go by a possible answer to the question of why the women preferred Asians came to me. The majority of the Asians were young to middle-age, reasonably fit, and reasonably attractive. I only saw one old Asian guy. On the other hand, the few Farang and one South Asian type I saw were old and fat geezers. You hit the nail on the head but general consensus on ISG is that age DOES NOT matter, likely because most ISG members are older.
When I was sitting at a table in the back and watching the flow of customers go by a possible answer to the question of why the women preferred Asians came to me. The majority of the Asians were young to middle-age, reasonably fit, and reasonably attractive. I only saw one old Asian guy. On the other hand, the few Farang and one South Asian type I saw were old and fat geezers.
However, even though I am an old (but not big-bellied) geezer, I got smiles from a few of the ones I found attractive, and lots from the ones I didn't, including getting my arm tugged by a few grannies. However, I was pretty buzzed from 4 whiskeys in 2 hours on Soi Cowboy, and I am not usually a late night fucker, so I didn't follow though with any of the attractive smilers, and left after about an hour.I don't think asian dudes being younger or more fit has much to do with it. When I was young and in my prime on my first trip to Asia, I went to a similar place with another white guy who was even better looking and younger than me. We were there with a 60 year old bald, fat asian nerd who wore thick coke bottle horn rimmed glasses. None of us had ever been there before, but the girls all wanted the old asian dude over us two young and handsome guys. We were even better dressed than him!
10% that is a lot. Normally I find no more than about 3 really attractive to me, and has been less on occasion. Usually those three do not convey the right vibe though, either don't like me, or will not be fun girls. Some won't even look at me. I don't have the large belly either and still have hair, but still its obvious I am not young. I may well give off the asshole vibe, as it is noted I am not huge smiler when then is nothing funny happening. Most girls say I turn out to be much nicer than what they expected. Ha ha. I don't like to smile at girls too much in case they misinterpret and think I want them, before I have really decided, however I probably need to cultivate a fake smile I guess.
Usually the girls giving me the come on or tugging my arm are of no interest in this place.I have been finding some gems there, it doesn't matter if they look at you or not. It's usually the dogs tugging at you.
I don't think asian dudes being younger or more fit has much to do with it. When I was young and in my prime on my first trip to Asia, I went to a similar place with another white guy who was even better looking and younger than me. We were there with a 60 year old bald, fat asian nerd who wore thick coke bottle horn rimmed glasses. None of us had ever been there before, but the girls all wanted the old asian dude over us two young and handsome guys. We were even better dressed than him!That was certainly the case "back in the day," in fact it was one of the reasons I chose Thailand as a place to hang my hat when I was in my mid-30's. The thought of being in my 50's and 60's and getting the best lookers.
It's not the case now. The working gals prefer the younger Asian dudes, and there are lots of them here. There has always been a stigma being seen with an old white guy, but back when the old white guys a the old Japanese guys had the money. Now the young Asian punter can pay.
And in many ways their standards are lower. I see 20's and early 30's Asian dudes with gals I wouldn't take a second glance at. And I assume they are way less demanding sexually. I've seen younger Asian dudes taking the super oldies in Tulip as well. Very odd. Back in the day the Japanese dudes always had the best lookers.
That was certainly the case "back in the day," in fact it was one of the reasons I chose Thailand as a place to hang my hat when I was in my mid-30's. The thought of being in my 50's and 60's and getting the best lookers.
It's not the case now. The working gals prefer the younger Asian dudes, and there are lots of them here. There has always been a stigma being seen with an old white guy, but back when the old white guys a the old Japanese guys had the money. Now the young Asian punter can pay.
And in many ways their standards are lower. I see 20's and early 30's Asian dudes with gals I wouldn't take a second glance at. And I assume they are way less demanding sexually. I've seen younger Asian dudes taking the super oldies in Tulip as well. Very odd. Back in the day the Japanese dudes always had the best lookers.Just as you hinted on, there's just more Asian punters now which means a younger crowd with access to varying amounts of money which is due to a growing economy on their home countries and the internet being able to generate interest to places like Thailand. As hot women will always be a scarcity, so with more punters, down goes the standards. A Thai lady preferring an Asian guy, young or old, should come as no surprise since visually he is more familiar and possibly closer culturally.
I walk counter clockwise in Thermae to be noticed more. .That makes me nuts and its a horney first time Chinese technique. How could you, a respectable sexpat do that? If you stumble and see a foot, that's me!
Definitely _L_ for _R_, Syzygies, I was listening carefully. You are right that it is not the same kind of substitution that you hear for Japanese speakers of English, but definitely "welly" for "very". I'm not doubting your linguistic acumen, but just saying, I was paying attention. The girl said she was from Bangkok, and even made a joke that because of her flat nose, people often think she is from Isaan. But she's a Bangkok girl through and through. So I have no answer for you, except for maybe we need more data on this issue.
Not really. Who can listen carefully in a noisy place like the Thermae?
Your ears must be very different to mine. Ha ha quite possible. I have studied Asian languages, especially Thai, so may make a difference to what our ears are accustomed to hear. However I still trouble to pick difference in certain Thai sounds. Difference between a Thai B and unaspirated P is quite subtle, the second just lacking a throat vibration. Thai consonant sounds at end of words are quite weak and indistinct at times.
Anyway as 95% of Thais have no tongue flick on the top teeth when trying to make an L sound (and certainly not for an 'R' sound), it just does not sound like an English L where I come from. Is the tongue flick not critical to make an L sound right? It is for me. Thai 'R' sound is not that far away from English 'R' in my opinion, just wider mouth (in the horizontal plane). If I make an L sound in Thai, it is very hard for me to not flick the top teeth or palette with my tongue, since it is just automatic for English speakers. Not many westerners know any technicalities of pronunciation, they just do it automatically.
To a certain extent, we hear what we want to hear and what our ears are trained for, and that starts with Thais not pronouncing English words in the normal way. Farangs can sound equally silly with Thai pronunciation being well off. American Thai (with a US drawl) sounds the funniest to me, because Americans tend to make short Thai words sound longer than they actually should be. No doubt my Thai sounds funny as well to the Thais, mostly due to messing up the tones at times.
Never heard a distinct "Welly" in Thailand.
And in many ways their standards are lower. I see 20's and early 30's Asian dudes with gals I wouldn't take a second glance at. And I assume they are way less demanding sexually. I've seen younger Asian dudes taking the super oldies in Tulip as well. Very odd. Back in the day the Japanese dudes always had the best lookers.Don't you find that young Asian guys are generally walking with a higher standard of girl for looks than the Western guys? I am ignoring now all those guys walking with Ladyboys, or girls with high surgeries, but for the natural looking girls that remain and very pretty, I think the Asian guys got most of them. Don't see many Asian guys walking with absolute dogs (or don't notice it)! Many guys in here are saying the girl's face does not matter for a fuck. Maybe the Asian guys are bit more discerning although I have seen Japanese guys call out the ugliest girl in Baccarat (for my taste) but was probably mainly caused by surgeries. Actually Baccarat did have a lot of plain faced girls last time I went there (also some good lookers hidden somewhere in the huge crowd of girls).
I suppose I don't notice so much all the ugly girls. Can ignore them. I pay attention to the pretty ones, and mostly seem to be with Asian guys.
At least Asian guys leave some of the darker skinned pretty girls for me. LOL I don't mind if skin is not that white.
Thais trying to say the letter "R" in an English word does not sound like "L" in my opinion, at least in most words.
Quite the reverse. On my first trip to Thailand the Tuk Tuk driver appeared to say "Frame Tree" when was supposed to be "Flame Tree".
So I heard plenty of "wery good" here in Thailand but never "Welly". Could your girl actually not have been Thai? Viet or Chinese ?Could be from Isaan or Laos. The Lao languange has no are in it, hence they say falang not farang.
I speak better, altough still poor, Lao than Thai and always get words mixed up, so I get a lot of laughs from some girls.
I awoke at the ungodly hour of 6 am on Friday morning. I had set my alarm for 8 am, having to be in to work by 9:30, and I have no idea why I woke up at 6 am. Yes I do. Fuckin' jet lag. It sucks getting old.
So on 5 hours of sleep, off I plodded to work to try to impress the good folks who paid for my fucking vacat-, errr, business trip. I managed to hold it together, but as the day drew to a close, I could feel the fatigue taking over. On the skytrain back, my legs ached, my head was pounding, and my eyes were swollen and dry. There was only one thing that could help with these symptoms, and we all know what that is. Right. A visit to NEP.
So I grabbed some dinner on the way back to the hotel, then went to the hotel to shower, and then before heading over to NEP, I walked over to Ploenchit Plaza for that Starbucks. I tanked up on a triple shot Americano and sat there a good 30 minutes to let it take effect. As I walked out, I was positively giddy with adrenaline. So I started prancing back to NEP, but on a whim, when I got to the corner of soi 4, jacked up on caffeine as I was, I decided to take a quick detour to check out the ladies of Grace Hotel. I had no intention of pulling anyone from there, but I always liked the carnival when I was a kid, and this was a way of reliving my childhood. As I walked over, I noticed how much more Arab this area has become. Only 2 years ago, this place was definitely the Arab quarter, but now the music is louder, the smell of sandalwood is more intense, the hijabs are more plentiful, and the beggars have miraculously donned kufis and thawbs.
It was still a bastard walking up there. There were so many slow walkers, and dripping sewer pipes, and broken sidewalks, I was not enjoying this brilliant idea I had. Anyway, I finally got to the Grace Hotel, and what I found was immensely amusing to me. All the girls were a cut below what I am used to. They were all overweight, without exception. There must have been 20 girls or so, spread around the exit to the driveway for the hotel, and up the side of the driveway. They were clearly loitering, so they were definitely working girls. The amusing part was that there was a group of brown men, almost definitely Indian, parading around them in a circle, just like in Thermae. The circle was more of an oval, going up the left side of the driveway about 50 meters and the down the other side. The men were chatting with each other strategizing who would take which girl, and it all looked just very reminiscent of Thermae. But the girls in Thermae are far, far more attractive, even the unattractive ones.
But it warmed my heart to think that these guys came all the way from India for this, and they were getting their freak on. And probably at a price that pleases. So good for them.
Anyway, having had my condescending little chuckle, I walked back over to NEP. As I approached, I spied a very decent line-up of girls at the Nana Hotel sign. There must have been 15 girls there ranging in quality from 4's to 7's I would say. That ain't bad for a parking lot girl. I was half tempted, but I thought I wanted to do the tour of NEP. It's been far too long.
First stop, as is my custom, was Mandarin, the upstairs one. I walked in and almost as soon as my ass got onto the swivel stool, a lecherous gogo "girl" in her 40's was standing next to me. This was before I had even ordered a drink, she was standing there looking at me expectantly. I did not even acknowledge her at first, irritated as I was. But eventually, as she crept closer and closer, I had to give her a little look, only enough to say "There. Now fuck off. " And fuck off she did.
The line up at Mandarin was not particularly compelling. There was one girl, #197, who had a very proportionate body, if somewhat plain. Her face was pretty, but the fake eye lashes were a dead giveaway that once she cleans that face off, what remains will be a very plain face too. But her body was indeed very doable, and so I kept my eye on her.
Other than her, there was not even one other girl I would want to bar fine, out of a total of around 15 girls. So I watched to see what would happen when the second shift comes on, which happened within 10 minutes. And when the rotation happened, it became clear that Mandarin was not getting Kumbu's cash tonight. As I was about to check-bin, a Japanese dude to my left pulled #197, and she skittered off to remove those lashes and show him what a fucking mistake he just made.
As I left, Mama San protested loudly and cheerfully that I had not even finished my drink. I told her I needed to walk, and I might return if I see nothing else, and she said with great confidence, "Ah, so you WILL come back. " Mama Sans, you got to love 'them.
Next was Rainbow 4. I walked in and was ushered to a bleacher seat on the right as you enter. I was squeezed between a middle aged Japanese dude and a youngish Korean dude. The Japanese guy was so vigorously working a toothpick in his mouth that it looked like he was fornicating with it. And the Korean bloke had an unusually pungent body odor. And don't say anything about kim chee: it wasn't the kim chee, it was just a lack of bathing.
Anyway, I sat, ordered my G&T, and then surveyed the scene. The long strip of a stage had around 10 girls on it, none of which were proportioned appropriately. The closest we had was a girl placed right in front of me, and she was eyeing me a little too hard. I hate it when they try TOO hard, since it usually means a shark-like experience. So I did my best to ignore her, and before my drink was done, I decided to bail. That was 20 minutes in my life I won't ever get back.
Third stop: Bill Board, which by the title of this post, you can probably gather was where I struck gold. As I walked in, the first thing that jumped out at me was just how much energy there was in here. The place was packed, both with men and with WGs. Moreover, the makeup of the customer base was decidedly different, especially from Rainbow 4. While the latter was composed mostly of Asians, Billboard was a much more eclectic mix. It was predominantly white dudes, but there were plenty of Asians and others in there too.
I was ushered to a seat at the carousel (I think this place called Carousel a few years ago), which is a big rotating stage filled with dancing girls. I think of it as catnip for mongers. I sat down and ordered my regular. As I waited, I looked at the girls, and it was such a stupefying experience. Remember, I am a leg man, and so anything leg-related gets me going up to 100%. Sitting at the edge of the carousel, you are inches from the girls as they circle you. Your head is leg level, and to see the rest of their bodies, you have to crane your neck all the way up. That's a painful position to be in for any more than a few seconds. Moreover, when you look up like that, the stage lights are (off and on) in your face, making it even harder to do. So you have no option but to look at the legs. It's just a gorgeous, cum-inducing forest of variably shaped legs, spinning past you in constant procession. It's how I imagine heaven to be: just pleasure everywhere you look.
I was fucking loving it. I just let go and allowed myself to focus on the most beautiful parts of the ladies: some were big, some were small, some were skinny, some were shapely, and slowly I started to pick out the winners and losers. Once I found a winner, I would follow that pair of legs around the carousel so I could see it from all directions. And once I knew its shape, only then would I look up and down to check the rest of the girl.
It was a fun few minutes, because it was cut short by a tap on the shoulder. I looked around, and there before me stood a youngish looking, well built girl sporting braces, fake lashes and a perm. She smiled at me, and the dazzle of the braces rivaled the spotlights in my face. I squinted, and she stopped her smile, and she hesitated. The squint was ambiguous: was I displeased? Was I tired? She needed to sus me out. I did not look down at her legs or her ass, but I could see through my peripheral vision that she was well built. She had a substantial frame, excellent hips, and I could feel the silkiness of her thighs against my arm. I could do this. I could.
So I motion to her to come closer, and she squeezes in between me and the Japanese guy next to me and places herself between my legs. I was on a stool, remember, next to the carousel, so there was not much room. We do the pleasantries (name=inaudible, later determined to be Phammy, see below; age=23 years; from Bangkok, not Isaan). As our pleasantries unfolded, she was facing away from me, and had her butt squarely pushed into my crotch. She was rubbing it up and down very shamelessly, working very hard for a possible LD. She then took my left hand and placed it on her ass, atop her spandex shorts, and put my right hand into her top, right against her nipple. She then squeezed my hand, thereby causing my hand to squeeze her boobs. They were real, and definitely a full-see-sized cup. Yummy. Given my expedition into Breastland the night before, this was turning into a trip full of great mammaries (heh).
She spies an empty seat in the back and asks if we should move, to which I eagerly agree. We get to our new spot and she mounts me, pulls open her shorts to reveal her close-cropped pussy hair and puts my hand onto that. I rub with great delight, my other hand on one boob or the other. My hands then switch over to her ass, which feels super firm and round, and I squeeze with great pleasure. We're talking a little, here and there, but mostly just doing the gogo girl seduction. It's well practiced, but fun nonetheless.
Along comes mama san, and so the LD arrives soon thereafter, and by this point it was a foregone conclusion that I was heading home with this lovely lass in tow. After sipping drinks for a few minutes, she reaches down and rubs little kumbu. She says "What's that? And before I could come up with a half-witted response, she says "Hot dog! It's hot dog! I love to eat hot dog! Daay mai?" Ok, then, that's a serious sign, no? I kid around, and I say "No, not hot dog, just peanuts" She laughs, and says "I like hot dog, I want to eat hot dog. And can eat peanuts too!
Check-fucking-BINNNNN!
Mama san says 700 BF and 3000ST, all paid to mama san. I object, and say 700 BF for mama san, but everything else to the lady with the delightful bottom. Mama san objects, I raise my eye brows, mama san begins to explain procedure, girl in my lap protests for everyone to calm down. I look at mama san right in the eye and say only BF to mama san, everything else to lady, and mama san pauses, ponders a moment, and finally sees the wisdom in this new plan. Why didn't she think of this before? Such an elegant solution, perhaps this will catch on.
So off we go, into the clammy night of BKK, hand in hand, prancing through the crowds of soi 4 and onto Suk for the short trip to the Landmark. As we walk, she is chattering on about this or that, and every once in a while the words hot dog and peanuts pop up, resulting in a reflex quiver of little kumbu. And as I walk, we have to swerve people, move between pillars and dripping water, and so sometimes I walk in front of her holding hands, and sometimes we switch, with her in front of me, holding my hand. In this latter configuration, I get to see her figure in all its splendor. She's wearing a one-piece sun dress, and holy fuck is she fetching in that dress. It is kind of clingy, and very short, revealing all the tasty parts. Her ass is round and largish, and her legs are long and shapely, just like I like 'them, and her breasts, well, we already know how ample they are. But the rest of her is super trim. Her waist is very slim, and her hips are wide, making for a pretty incredible figure. She's clearly young, since having such a trim waist is not something older gals can pull off. This is going to be good. She walks with a tom-boyish bounce, which is also very alluring.
We get into the room and she throws herself onto the bed, sighing in relief from the heat. She flashes a metal-filled grin at me, and I wonder how that interferes with hot-dog consumption. We shall find out. So we chat for a while. She tells me that she is a college student by day, studying logistics. I ask her what that is, and she struggles to explain. I ask her why she is studying logistics, and she says she wants to work in many different places, and logistics lets her do that. She then pulls out her phone and starts showing me pictures of her in real life. And OMG, the difference is amazing. The pictures on the phone are with no make up, no frizzly hair, no lashes, and regular everyday clothes. And she looks like a very ordinary person you would pass on the BTS. I'the probably check out her legs on the BTS (I check out everyone's legs, for fucks sake), but I would not think twice about her. So the metamorphosis into gogo-girl extraordinaire is pretty impressive.
She showers, then me, and then it begins. She lies down and I run my hands over her silky body. Shit, man, is there anything more fulfilling than having a pliable, gorgeous, fit, shapely young 23 year old lying there, with your hands running greedily all over them? I just took in the sensual sparks, and savored every moment of it. Her skin was indeed as silky now after the shower as it was back in Billboards. Sometimes when the lotion washes off the skin becomes rougher, but not hers. She still had the natural emollients of youth.
I rub her neck, her breasts, and her totally flat belly. I ask her what her name is again, and she says it again, and I can't quite get it. She looks at me like I am dumb and says "You cannot read?" Huh? She points to a tattoo above her right breast with some lettering on it. I look closer and it says "Phammy". I said "That's your name? Yes, like a steer that has been branded, in case she gets lost in the wilderness. 23 year old Phammy: remember it.
Her back was defined and taught, with no flab or excess fat at all. Her waist, as alluded to before, was as tight at human waists come. It wasn't a small waist, in that she was naturally girthy, but it was as fit as you can imagine. And then her hips flared out like the explosive fireworks on the 4th of July. Wide, gorgeous hips, sporting a round, soft, but firm doublet of butt cheeks. I rubbed and massaged them, enjoying how they bounced back to form. I was eager to get to her legs, but before I could enjoy those little treats, she got impatient and proclaimed in a loud voice, "I hungry!
She gets up, pushes me over, and takes a look at me. She looks at my hairy chest, flat belly and longish dick, and just busts out laughing. She says, "You do pumping?" I looked at her with a blank expression, to which she gives me the bicep clench, indicated pumping iron. I said, "little bit", with a Thai accent, where the Ts are pronounced differently; Syzygies, no comments on this please 😉. But why was she laughing, you ask? Well, she said to me "Why you have strong this (pointing to my pecs), you have nice this (my flat belly), but then you THIS" and she slaps at my smallish (but definitely visible) love handles. I mean, she just slaps me there, like I'm a piece of meat! How embarrassing! She then giggles, and slaps me there again, with a coquettish grin.
Such devilish play, I can play devil right back. So I gently put my hands on her cheek, and then say "Shhhh", and I slowly start to push her head down, and I say "You are so hungry, aren't you?" and I move her head down to my crotch region. She laughs out loud and shoves me playfully.
But then she goes in for the kill. She kisses around a little, then finally, FINALLY, takes little kumbu into her mouth. She sucks up and down for a little, showing some skill, but not really an expert. I mean, Thai girls are not particularly good at BJ, so I was not expecting much. But the fact that she was doing all of this on her own initiative was a big plus. Anyway it was doing the trick, since gobs of precum were dribbling out of little Kumbu, and she was taking it all.
And true to her word, she eats the hot dog. She takes it all in, BBBJ, and sucks for around 3-4 minutes. As BJs go, that ain't bad. But finally, the precum was getting the better of her (and to be fair, that's something I'm aware of: I produce copious amounts of precum, far more than most). So she pulled out, and I thought that was the end, but no. She pulls little Kumbu, distended as he was, lifts him up, and the takes a look at my balls.
I had shaved my balls a few days earlier, so they were not hairy, but there was a slight stubble. She could see this, but went in any way. She went down deep, lifting little Kumbu up, lifting my balls up, and she went straight for the taint! What?! When was the last time you had a Thai WG do this without prodding?! She put her tongue flat against my taint, wiggled a little, and then purposefully dragged it up the middle and up over my balls onto the base of little Kumbu.
My whole body exploded with sensation. It was like I had stuck my dick into an electrical outlet. I shivered and spasmed; so intense was the experience that little Kumbu lost all power and he deflated within a matter of 5 seconds! I mean seriously, it was such a shock to the system that my erection dissipated during the course of this most magnificent of maneuvers! I felt she was due some applause, or a golf clap, or something. But I could not breathe: my body was still in the state of electrical rigor mortis.
A moment passed, and I was able to finally suck in a lungful of air, and just like that, she was back down in the trenches again, wiggling the taint. Oh for the love of god! And before I could protest or prepare myself, the tongue washed up over my balls. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
And then a third time, this time it was followed by some ball suckling, first left, then right. My erection was totally gone, and all that remained was oozing from the now flaccid head. I could not take this any more: it was just too much! So I pulled away, and finally got a few breaths of air. Shit madam, you fuckin' WIN, OK?
She giggles, and says "I like. " And I slur back at her "I likhhhh choo".
She sees the loss of the Honorable Little Kumbu, so she offers her breasts to him. She places him squarely between her ample cleavage and starts giving him a little boob job.
BING! We're up and running again. Soon thereafter, she pulls on Mr Trojan, and we do it CG for a while. She moans and groans, for a while, then says she wants me to do her doggie. I mean, she literally says "doggie please". I didn't understand her at first, until she gets into the position and slowly points to her backside like I am some kind of retard. Shit Kumbu, get it together.
So I get on my knees and mount her. Mmmmmmmm. You boys don't need to read what happens next, because it's quite predictable. I tried to resist, but doggie is my weakness. Hips, butthole, butt cheeks, thighs, lovely arched back, pressure just in the right spots: Kumbu has no chance. In the technical literature this is referred to as asymmetrical warfare. It just ain't fair.
So end in a gush of delight and regret, did I. I held on to her wide hips for a while, and she giggled the whole time. What a treat she has been. This is what keeps us coming back again and again: the unexpected peaks separated by inevitable valleys.
So we shower, I offer her 3500 baht, ponder the possibility of a repeat. She tells me that unless it is Fri, Sat or Sun night, she cannot do it. I consider my schedule, and it seems that a repeat is not on the books. So I kiss her on the cheek, pat her on the bum, and usher her out of the hotel. Kumbu has some sleeping to do.
I slept like a fucking baby that night: the first good night's sleep since arriving. Thank you Dr. Phammy, for your electric shock therapy. It worked like a charm.
Don't you find that young Asian guys are generally walking with a higher standard of girl for looks than the Western guys? I don't particularly notice Asian guys "walking" with any girls. I see them take the girls from places like Baccara for short times, but if I walk around terminal 21, I do not see those Asian guys walking around with any girls at all.
I do think the hookers prefer Asian guys due to the 3-3-3 rule. (3 inches for 3 seconds for 3000 baht).
I slept like a fucking baby that night: the first good night's sleep since arriving. Thank you Dr. Phammy, for your electric shock therapy. It worked like a charm.I rarely read so long reports, but I'm glad I read this. Great FR.
I rarely read so long reports, but I'm glad I read this. Great FR.Yeah its like a cheesy novel in Playboy in the old days.
Sounds like he had a fun night, but all too much effort for me. Thermae, Spasso or Mixx for my usual hunts.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-13-19, 05:33
Went to Soi Cowboy last night a little after 10 PM. Was going to check out Crazy House but the door guys were charging 100 baht entry fee, and, surprisingly, to East Asians. They were paying the 100 baht without batting an eye. I thought it is crazy to pay to enter a gogo bar so I left. I don't understand how Crazy House can get away with this. Hopefully it will not start a trend.
Went instead to Baccara. Bought one of their over-priced drinks outside so I could enter. Packed with guys. It is definitely an Asian clientele gogo, with Asian guys outnumbering farang by about 8 to 1. Girl quality somewhat better than the other gogos I had recently gone to. 2nd and 3rd floor had the topless girls but around 10:45 PM a new shift came on both floors but they never took off their tops. I wonder if management had been tipped off to keep their girls covered for some reason, or perhaps they only go topless while there is the requirement that you buy a drink outside before you can enter, as when I left after realizing that no tits were going to be exposed, there was no guy holding the drink sign and guys were walking in with no drinks. One incident reminded me why I think scammer types become gogo girls. I was sitting downstairs next to an Asian guy who was with an attractive girl. She went to get a lady drink, came back and took one sip, then left, came back dressed and left with him, the lady drink on the table practically full. The 3000 baht ST fee wasn't enough for her? She had to make him waste an extra 220 baht just so she could get an extra 80 baht or so commission?
Banana Boi
03-13-19, 05:59
Was going to check out Crazy House but the door guys were charging 100 baht entry fee, and, surprisingly, to East Asians. Anyone supporting this club is a fool. Who pays to enter a gogo bar? I guess there are too many guys like myself who walk in and out of CH because the girls aren't hot.
Was going to check out Crazy House but the door guys were charging 100 baht entry fee, and, surprisingly, to East Asians.
Went instead to Baccara. Bought one of their over-priced drinks outside so I could enter. So they wanted to charge you 100 baht to get into Crazy House, then you went to Baccara and they forced you go buy a drink in order to enter?
I've visited both places over a hundred times. I have never been asked to pay to get into Crazy House, and only once in 20 years have they asked me to buy a drink before I entered Baccara. I am not sure what was so special about that one night at Baccara, but it was about 10 years ago and I refused to do that and moved on. Stupid move on their part because I normally buy around 3000 baht worth of drinks in the place when I do go there.
I'd be curious to know why both of those places asked you to pay before entering.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-13-19, 06:34
So they wanted to charge you 100 baht to get into Crazy House, then you went to Baccara and they forced you go buy a drink in order to enter?
I've visited both places over a hundred times. I have never been asked to pay to get into Crazy House, and only once in 20 years have they asked me to buy a drink before I entered Baccara. I am not sure what was so special about that one night at Baccara, but it was about 10 years ago and I refused to do that and moved on. Stupid move on their part because I normally buy around 3000 baht worth of drinks in the place when I do go there.
I'd be curious to know why both of those places asked you to pay before entering.You seem to be implying that there is something particular about me that made them ask me to pay before entering.
I wasn't asked to pay at Crazy House. I saw that they were asking the East Asian guys to pay the money. Since East Asians are their primary clientele, I figured there was no way they were going to let me in without paying, so never even tried to get in. Had it been South Asians they were asking the money from, I would have tried to get in without paying the 100 baht.
I was not personally asked to buy a drink before entering at Baccara. There was a guy by the door on a stool with a big sign to get a drink before entering, which I did, along with all the other people that were doing the same. As I stated, at around 11 PM the guy and the sign were gone.
So they wanted to charge you 100 baht to get into Crazy House, then you went to Baccara and they forced you go buy a drink in order to enter?
I've visited both places over a hundred times. I have never been asked to pay to get into Crazy House, and only once in 20 years have they asked me to buy a drink before I entered Baccara. I am not sure what was so special about that one night at Baccara, but it was about 10 years ago and I refused to do that and moved on. Stupid move on their part because I normally buy around 3000 baht worth of drinks in the place when I do go there.
I'd be curious to know why both of those places asked you to pay before entering.I was at Baccara about 2 weeks ago and both nights I was told to pay for a drink to enter. IIRC everything was 190 b or more. I'm Asian and with more were a Thai, a Caucasian, a middle eastern, and a mixed dude that I don't remember what he was, but he has some Filipino in him. Both nights the place were almost full and full of Asians.
PoohKeyLover
03-13-19, 13:38
You seem to be implying that there is something particular about me that made them ask me to pay before entering.
I wasn't asked to pay at Crazy House. I saw that they were asking the East Asian guys to pay the money. Since East Asians are their primary clientele, I figured there was no way they were going to let me in without paying, so never even tried to get in. Had it been South Asians they were asking the money from, I would have tried to get in without paying the 100 baht.
I was not personally asked to buy a drink before entering at Baccara. There was a guy by the door on a stool with a big sign to get a drink before entering, which I did, along with all the other people that were doing the same. As I stated, at around 11 PM the guy and the sign were gone.I was also asked to pay 100 Baht before entering Crazy House.
Member #4698
03-13-19, 13:38
CH & Baccara: On busy nights the doormen at both places will ask customers they do not recognize to buy a drink before entering.
At Baccara the old rough & tough doorman who has been there forever still remembers me from my frequent Mini nights so he just waives me in whenever I go there. I always say good evening to him.
Over at CH a much younger and apparently inexperienced doorman tried to block my way one time and he requested that I buy a drink before entering. I refused and called for my favorite mamasan inside to came out and straighten the guy out since I am a fairly regular CH customer. My Mamasan came out, vouched for me, and I was let in without any further ado. My request was not extraordinary since I always run up a tab there and most of the people inside know this. Then on another night a different young CH doorman attempted to block my way again, but fat waitress who I know quite well was standing outside with some bar girls and she told the guy to let me in and then she escorted me inside to my favorite seating area. Funny, later that night as I was leaving with my 2 CH repeat girls the same doorman tried to hit me up for a tip. I ignored him. I only tip people who treat me well and come thru for me like my fat waitress. I do not tip people who treat me like a nobody. Maybe he will learn to differentiate. I don't care. But, I was not troubled at the front door since that ocasion although I expect it might happen again on a busy night since I have been out of town since late October.
The only reason I would not want to buy a drink would be if there is nowhere to sit down. Sometimes both Crazy House and Baccara get very busy. If I can't sit down, I don't want to be there.
Member #4698
03-13-19, 14:50
The only reason I would not want to buy a drink would be if there is nowhere to sit down. Sometimes both Crazy House and Baccara get very busy. If I can't sit down, I don't want to be there.There are three reasons I will not buy a drink in advance. You just stated the 1st ie if the place is too crowded and there is nowhere to sit although if I am there to see a particular girl then this reason does not apply. The 2nd reason arises when I want to check out a new place or a bar I have not been to for some time. I don't want to buy a drink in any Go Go if none of their girls interest me. Sometimes I will walk into a bar, walk around the bar, and walk right out in a mater of seconds. No drink. Of course I only act this way in marginal quality bars, bars that I do not usually frequent, but hey, I am giving them a chance by walking in. If they have one nice looking girl I will take a seat, buy a drink, and most likely buy a drink for the girl and possibly do a barfine. If they don't have any decent looking girls, they have lost me as a customer for another couple of years. 555. The 3rd reason I do not want to buy a drink at the door is the reason I gave in my previous post ie that when I am a regular, repeat customer at particular bar, I don't feel that I should be treated like a newbie walk in. I require that the bar treat me good like a valued, returning, repeat customer or it won't remain as one of my favorite bars for much longer.
There are three reasons I will not buy a drink in advance. You just stated the 1st ie if the place is too crowded and there is nowhere to sit although if I am there to see a particular girl then this reason does not apply. The 2nd reason arises when I want to check out a new place or a bar I have not been to for some time. I don't want to buy a drink in any Go Go if none of their girls interest me. Sometimes I will walk into a bar, walk around the bar, and walk right out in a mater of seconds. No drink. Of course I only act this way in marginal quality bars, bars that I do not usually frequent, but hey, I am giving them a chance by walking in. If they have one nice looking girl I will take a seat, buy a drink, and most likely buy a drink for the girl and possibly do a barfine. If they don't have any decent looking girls, they have lost me as a customer for another couple of years. 555. The 3rd reason I do not want to buy a drink at the door is the reason I gave in my previous post ie that when I am a regular, repeat customer at particular bar, I don't feel that I should be treated like a newbie walk in. I require that the bar treat me good like a valued, returning, repeat customer or it won't remain as one of my favorite bars for much longer.Yes absolutely pal. I lasted about 10 secs inside Kazy bar. Did not have any customers to speak of that I recall. Girls greatly over dressed and not enough hot bodies on display for me.
Smoothie,
I don't think Crazy House is usually so crowded that cannot get a seat anywhere, these days, at least not at my usual time of 9 PM or earlier. Tats laden Ice now has blonde curls. Her tits almost look naturally sagged now. Don't look like a real obvious tit job any more.
Bacarrat a different story. Can be very hard to get a decent seat there in my experience from admittedly long ago.
If I could find an exotic looking woman faintly like in this Video anywhere, I would be hooked real quick. Not a Thai but shows my slim spec. Coloured hair and tats don't bother me that much. However like real natural tits.
Used to like Donut in CH and she had funny coloured hair at times. Body not that dissimilar. Face not as hot as the video but pretty. Alas nothing of the same standard there any more.
https://beeg.com/6574969
I wasn't asked to pay at Crazy House. I saw that they were asking the East Asian guys to pay the money. Since East Asians are their primary clientele, I figured there was no way they were going to let me in without paying, so never even tried to get in. Had it been South Asians they were asking the money from, I would have tried to get in without paying the 100 baht.
I have not seen the sign and always entered without problem, but then I am well known there and also I may tend to visit at times when they are not the busiest. Have not seen the place really full recently. Never saw East Asians asked to pay first either so it might be a new development. Seems strange. Standard of the girls has declined a lot in my view. I used to have a few favourites, now no one.
Could be from Isaan or Laos. The Lao languange has no are in it, hence they say falang not farang.
I speak better, altough still poor, Lao than Thai and always get words mixed up, so I get a lot of laughs from some girls.My GF is Issan but still cannot pronounce an English L properly, same as Thais. She can speak Thai very well though including Thai letter-R. So she Roves me rather than Loves me, or close to it. However you do have a point.
Some Issan words replace letter-R with an H and some maybe with their version of an letter-L without tongue flick on the top teeth.
Probably very few Laos / Issan girls are speaking to me in English unless their English is really excellent, Issan or Thai is more likely, so I may lack this experience of hearing stuff like "Welly Good".
Normally both Issan and Thai girls I know can make a better approximation to English-R than to English-L, However that may not be all of them. Laos / Issan Letter L is possible.
I don't usually hear "Falang" much either excepting maybe from children, but have to admit I do hear what sounds like "Aloi" rather than "Aroi" a bit, which must be the Issan version.
Yes I am willing to admit I am wrong, just not speaking English with these girls I guess, except those with very good English. There maybe girls no good at making a letter-R due to poor Thai language education as well as poor English.
If I could find an exotic looking woman faintly like in this Video anywhere, I would be hooked real quick. Not a Thai but shows my slim spec. Coloured hair and tats don't bother me that much. However like real natural tits.
Used to like Donut in CH and she had funny coloured hair at times. Body not that dissimilar. Face not as hot as the video but pretty. Alas nothing of the same standard there any more.
https://beeg.com/6574969Geez man, that looks like a ladyboy. That girl in your video has very masculine features. Different strokes I guess.
My GF is Issan but still cannot pronounce an English L properly, same as Thais. Neither can the Koreans. This reminds me of my first trip to Korea in 1981. There was a Korean band singing / playing at the Osan Airbase officer's club: lolling down the liver. It was so funny I almost wet myself with OB beer.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-13-19, 17:57
I have not seen the sign and always entered without problem, but then I am well known there and also I may tend to visit at times when they are not the busiest. Have not seen the place really full recently. Never saw East Asians asked to pay first either so it might be a new development. Seems strange. Standard of the girls has declined a lot in my view. I used to have a few favourites, now no one.The buy a drink first sign was at Baccara, not Crazy House. At Crazy House it was just two door guys sticking out their hands for the 100 baht.
Tats laden Ice now has blonde curls. Her tits almost look naturally sagged now. Don't look like a real obvious tit job any more.She's the most unique girl I have seen in Thailand. You haven't tried her yet?
TheOne1977
03-13-19, 19:53
I awoke at the ungodly hour of 6 am on Friday morning. I had set my alarm for 8 am, having to be in to work by 9:30, and I have no idea why I woke up at 6 am. Yes I do. Fuckin' jet lag. It sucks getting old.
So on 5 hours of sleep, off I plodded to work to try to impress the good folks who paid for my... .Thank you Kumbu. That's awesome!
She's the most unique girl I have seen in Thailand. You haven't tried her yet?Surely you recall she is not my type. Strong jaw is a bit too masculine looking for me (first time wondered ladyboy or not), not pretty for me, and lots of piercings don't really thrill me.
Raunchy yes, but I don't normally take overly raunchy girls either. Dark skin is no bother.
If I could find an exotic looking woman faintly like in this Video anywhere, I would be hooked real quick. Not a Thai but shows my slim spec. Coloured hair and tats don't bother me that much. However like real natural tits.
https://beeg.com/6574969Her best look is once she gets totally naked near the end of the video. I could get into her, for sure, except for the big, ugly tats and the navel and tongue piercings. She would be awesome, nearly flawless without those. Talking only about her body, that is. Never understood why women with nearly flawless bodies choose to muck around with them and introduce flaws. Imagine her with pristine, unmarked up skin, no piercings, natural color hair and about 95% less make-up. Yum. She would also look about 6 years younger, if not more.
Her face? Too much make-up. I like the thick lips, but not a fan of the prominent nose, which I feel is a more masculine feature. As you said, she is not Thai.
There are three reasons I will not buy a drink in advance. You just stated the 1st ie if the place is too crowded and there is nowhere to sit although if I am there to see a particular girl then this reason does not apply. The 2nd reason arises when I want to check out a new place or a bar I have not been to for some time. I don't want to buy a drink in any Go Go if none of their girls interest me. Sometimes I will walk into a bar, walk around the bar, and walk right out in a mater of seconds. No drink. Of course I only act this way in marginal quality bars, bars that I do not usually frequent, but hey, I am giving them a chance by walking in. If they have one nice looking girl I will take a seat, buy a drink, and most likely buy a drink for the girl and possibly do a barfine. If they don't have any decent looking girls, they have lost me as a customer for another couple of years. 555. The 3rd reason I do not want to buy a drink at the door is the reason I gave in my previous post ie that when I am a regular, repeat customer at particular bar, I don't feel that I should be treated like a newbie walk in. I require that the bar treat me good like a valued, returning, repeat customer or it won't remain as one of my favorite bars for much longer.(area in bold is my addition).
Ah, but the question is how many times can you go into a bar, cruise around once and walk out within a minute or two without buying a drink and still be considered a "valued, returning, repeat customer"? I mean, it seems to me by the third time, maybe three unlucky, ill-timed visits to a bar when the good girls are already taken, the guy at the door isn't going to be so keen to see and have anyone else standing around see you duck in and out within a minute or two without buying a drink. Not so keen that he and the management would tolerate you doing it a fourth time without kindly suggesting you go right ahead and buy a drink upfront and outside like the rest of us. And that fourth time might be the one where they've just packed the place with a dozen fresh, new girls for the taking.
Can you do that an unlimited number of times?
I'll bet sometime before that fourth visit you would feel under pressure to buy a drink the moment you go inside anyway, regardless of the quality of the line up. Self-imposed pressure, that is, just to keep that "valued customer' thing going. Or maybe not.
(area in bold is my addition).
Ah, but the question is how many times can you go into a bar, cruise around once and walk out within a minute or two without buying a drink and still be considered a "valued, returning, repeat customer"?Don't be so silly. Obviously different reasons apply to different bars. Bar goers get to be a valued customer somewhere.
Her best look is once she gets totally naked near the end of the video. I could get into her, for sure, except for the big, ugly tats and the navel and tongue piercings. She would be awesome, nearly flawless without those. Talking only about her body, that is. Never understood why women with nearly flawless bodies choose to muck around with them and introduce flaws. Imagine her with pristine, unmarked up skin, no piercings, natural color hair and about 95% less make-up. Yum. She would also look about 6 years younger, if not more.
Her face? Too much make-up. I like the thick lips, but not a fan of the prominent nose, which I feel is a more masculine feature. As you said, she is not Thai.While I don't need piercings and tats, etc. They have become so common that one has to try to ignore them I think. Never found a tongue piercing to be a problem, even if they seem pointless. I can't see them improving a BBBJ at all. Are there any Thai girls without Tats? Maybe but not many hookers have no tats I think. Hence we get the really ugly phrase "the tramp stamp". My GF also has tats. I live with it. So did the previous GFs, except maybe only two of them had no tats. Those two were the ones who performed worst on the bed and being the most conservative girls.
Wild girls on the bed mostly have tats in my experience. So just accept it.
Yes I can agree, it would be nice if she was totally pristine, it is known I like as natural looks as possible. I prefer slightly smaller more upturned nose, but her nose is not at all unacceptable to me. Western girls normally have bigger noses than Thai. Nice to hear I am not the only one a bit fussy about noses. Ha ha.
Don't be so silly. Obviously different reasons apply to different bars. Bar goers get to be a valued customer somewhere.So would your contention be that there is never a time when the patron who takes pride in enjoying that "valued customer" advantage in a bar feels compelled to sit and buy drinks anyway, even when the line up is not very good at all, just to keep the "valued customer" good will flowing?
That was, after all, the real point of my post. But not the part you quoted and decided made me silly. I'm talking about self-imposed compulsion to buy a drink that, in some ways, is even greater pressure than when the door guy tells us to.
While I don't need piercings and tats, etc. They have become so common that one has to try to ignore them I think. Never found a tongue piercing to be a problem, even if they seem pointless. I can't see them improving a BBBJ at all. Are there any Thai girls without Tats? Maybe but not many hookers have no tats I think. Hence we get the really ugly phrase "the tramp stamp". My GF also has tats. I live with it. So did the previous GFs, except maybe only two of them had no tats. Those two were the ones who performed worst on the bed and being the most conservative girls.
Wild girls on the bed mostly have tats in my experience. So just accept it.
Yes I can agree, it would be nice if she was totally pristine, it is known I like as natural looks as possible. I prefer slightly smaller more upturned nose, but her nose is not at all unacceptable to me. Western girls normally have bigger noses than Thai. Nice to hear I am not the only one a bit fussy about noses. Ha ha.I agree that we have to accept tats if we are going to monger in Thailand these days. But, my god, sometimes they cover major portions of their body. As with the girl in that video you linked. That is why I try to use the term "big, ugly" tattoo when that is the case. I can ignore small ones here and there unless they are right next to or on their pussy, breasts or face. Unfortunate placement, imo.
I picked up a somewhat exotic, sexy looking FL on Soi 4 last night. She is kind of new to that particular scene. Maybe I'd seen her in the area 1-2 times before recently and just passed her by. Her entire back was one big, ugly tattoo. Of course, I did not know that until she undressed in my room because she'd learned to keep it covered in her street clothes. Luckily, I am not a finisher in doggie position. It is missionary for me. So it was a non issue and easy to ignore.
Every so often, we are reminded of the reason we do what we do. The previous night I had a buzzing encounter with the most charming Phammy of Billboard. The night before that it was breasts from Thermae. Tonight, Saturday night, was something different still. You got to love LOS: it throws things at you from all directions.
The Failure of Thermae
My plan was to return to Thermae. My encounter with Pattii had been such an unmitigated success, I was eager to try someone else from Thermae. I was a little hesitant because of the awkwardness posed by potentially running into Pattii again, but that can be managed. Anyway, I headed over to Terminal 21 at around 8:15 pm for dinner, and then the Starbucks for the nightly upload of caffeine, and by the time I walked into Thermae it must have been 9:15 pm, on Saturday night.
The difference between Saturday night and Thursday night was stark. Saturday night was absolutely packed. There were so many men (and ladies), it was mildly uncomfortable. I mean, it made the place far harder to navigate. I got in and there were these two geeks chuckling like little girls at the concept of a supermarket for women. One of them was saying "What do you mean it's a supermarket? And the other said "Yeah, that's what I heard this other dude call it, a SUPERMARKET. . . Bbbbbahahahahaha!
OK children, the play area is that way. After fighting the crowds to get myself a drink, I entered the rotation. There were three big, fat-assed Asian dudes in front of me, and so I got into their slipstream. It made moving through the crowd way easier. But it shielded me from exposure to the girls, which was not a particularly good thing. As we muscled our way around, I came to Pattii, standing in the same spot I picked her from 2 nights earlier. She smiled awkwardly, and I smiled awkwardly. I went over and said Hello, how are you, nice to see you, having fun? Good luck tonight, ok? Ok kaa. And off went my three Asian dudes, so I had to go with them.
I got around to the other side and let my Asian dudes go on without me. I hung out back there for about 4. 5 minutes before I realized this place was just too, too busy to conduct any meaningful business. Too many people, too much activity, I could not focus on anyone in particular. So I bee-lined to the exit and walked out. Yeah, Thermae failed me this time, but only because of its popularity on Saturday night. So my previous post (the conceited one), where I spoke unequivocally about how one can find success in Thermae just so long as you have the attitude was disproven rather easily here tonight. There are times when the conditions within Thermae make it a losing proposition, and tonight was one of those nights. I admit there must be many others.
So what to do? Over to Soi Cowboy? Naah, that ain't my scene. Street Walker along Suk? Maybe. Back to NEP? Probably. I decided to make my way down Suk towards NEP. If I saw anything on the street that met my fancy, then I'the go for it. As a backup, if I bombed at NEP, then I could always hit Mixx or Spasso. No one ever loses in BKK unless they want to.
Close call with a beautiful (wo)man
As I crossed the side soi next to the Westin, there was a girl standing there looking elegant as a Ferrari Dino. She was wearing a peach top and a white mini skirt. The cloth on the mini skirt was kind of stiff, not clingy, and it revealed some lovely legs. Her frame was slender, and her face was very sophisticated. Her hair was bleached down to a light brown (not the typical peroxide job), and her fingers looked to be very well manicured. MM, tasty, maybe. As I approached her, she looked right at me, and clearly she was interested. She looked right at me, and I at her, and as I approached, I suddenly got cold feet and walked past her. Not sure why: everything was right, everything was in place for me to at least have a conversation. But something was not quite right, and so I walked past her. And as I did, she pinches my elbow and THERE! Lady fucking BOY! Aaaahh, hahah, yeah, you ain't getting ME! Hah! I beat your trap! Damn, but she was a good one. I mean seriously, I turned back and looked at her and even now knowing she was currently or had been in the past a dude, I could not find any sign of it. I smiled at her, and she smiled back as if to say "I almost had you, you pretty little man. ".
I found no other decent female SWs, so I went straight to NEP. And same as on Fri night, the lineup in the Nana parking lot was really, really good. I mean there were something like 15-20 girls right by the sign, and there must have been 5 girls that were doable. Perhaps one of them was really good (not stunner, but really good). Nonetheless, I decided to go into a gogo bar to see what was on display.
The night before I had been to Mandarin, Rainbow 4 and Billboard. So tonight I wanted to check out some other places. I don't really like Lucky, and Angel Witch has never really worked for me before. But I have pulled girls from Rainbow 3, which has a very different vibe than Rainbow 4. So that's where I head.
The Preamble in Rainbow 3
I get in, am seated on the near side near the corner of seats, and begin the Gaze of Kumbu. I look at each girl, from bottom to top (I. E. , legs first, hips and butt next, then waist, then breasts, then face). That order works best for my cognitive processing. I spy three good looking girls, but the pick of them is right near me, looking right at me with a death stare, like "You WILL be mine tonight". Uh-oh. Shy Kumbu looks away. I can't stand direct attention like that, please don't subject me to such pressure!
But through my peripheral vision I can see her undulating very vigorously, and truth be told, the meat she is moving is quite pleasing to Kumbu. So I slowly start to look her way, but oh too late! This young blonde bastard to my right has set his sights on her. Fucker. How can I compete with that?! He's 15 years my junior, an upgrade in skin color (I. E. , he is white, I am not), and he looks like Brad mutherfucking Pitt. So girlie on stage suddenly shifts her stance and starts focusing on him. I know this is a mistake for girlie: this guy ain't going to treat you the way Kumbu will. Please, you must know that! But no, she is enamored with the pale skinned one, and the hip-gyrations that were once aimed at me have shifted focus over to the young but dull-looking one to my right.
So I take a sip of my drink and consider my options. Do I gogo hop? Do I go out and try to pick up one of those SWs in the Nana parking lot? Do I hit a nightclub? As I was thinking through these options, I noticed a pair of super hot eyes looking my way from around 10 O'clock. I take a look, and they are gone. I can't find them. I see a whole bunch of girls looking my way because besides the fucker Brad Pitt to my right, there were precious few eligible punters in the bar at that point. There was an Indonesian-looking dude across the way, and a rather large-headed Korean guy to my left. Neither of them looked palatable, and so I think I was it. Slim pickin's gals, slim pickin's.
So about half a dozen or more girls are looking my way, but none of them have the killer eyes that I thought I saw. So I go through the girls methodically, from stage-left, working my way towards me. Girl 1 is fat-assed, so crossed off my list. Girl 2 is skinny-legged, so out. Girl 3 has a ginormous ass and pot belly, yeesh. Girl 4 has a haggard-looking belly, so nope. Girl 5 looks very plain. Nothing wrong with her, but certainly not worth the effort or money. Girl 6 is unattractive (face), so out. Girl 7 is also skinny-legged, so no thanks. Girl 8 is too dolled up (peroxide hair, fake boobs, fake nose, loads of make up), so off the list. Girl 9 is looking away from me, so I can't see if she's the one, and so she's crossed off my li- hold on a moment. . . What's this I see here? I look at her body (can't see her face yet), and she has proportions that make me want to sing the Sound of Music song out loud. She has an ass that is pert, round and perfectly sized for her body. Her legs are slender, but very shapely. Her waist is tiny and gorgeous, and her boobs look to be worth a handful or so. But really, the winning card in her deck were her legs, which were melodic beauty to the max. They were slender, shapely, and perfectly proportioned to her body. Such elegance is rarely on display anywhere, even in the hallowed halls of NEP.
And then she turns and looks right at me, and my heart stops for a moment. This girl had eyes that would stop a run-away locomotive train. They would launch a thousand ships. They would leap tall buildings in a single bound, umm, no, sorry, got my references all mixed up there. But you get my point: she had a totally gorgeous face. Gents, her number is 087 in Rainbow 3. I urge you to go check her out and see if she ain't a pretty young thing.
🎶The Hills Are Alive . . . with the sound of muuuuuuusic! 🎵 She was clearly an Isaan girl, but her eyes were such a phenomenon. Her nose was the give-away, as was her skin, but again, her eyes, did I mention that? She looked at me and a wry smile crept into the sides of her mouth. And then it disappeared as she looked away. We played looksie for a few minutes, and then I decided to buy her a LD before the fuck-wit Brad Pitt to my right turned his attention to her. He had bought the previous girlie a LD, by the way, but conversation was looking strained at this point.
So I call my new girl over, and she saunters off stage, around, and over to me. She wais, and as she does so, I realize she is a very petite girl. On stage she looked larger than life. She looked like she was 5'6" tall, but now, up close, she looked closer to 5'1", and perhaps 90 lbs. So a small spinner. Usually, I like my girls with a little more heft, but I could be persuaded to take her out for a spin. I usually need space to park the truck, but I've parked in a compact spot before.
She sits, and she keeps looking at me with those eyes, and my heart flutters while my dick hollers. The conversation is fine. Not fluid and easy, but not strained either. She seems into me, but not overly eager. And I'm feeling some vibe, but not electricity like last night with Phammy. So I play it cool, keep sipping our drinks, and watch to see what transpires.
Somehow, in the meantime, Brad Pitt has escaped and left girlie holding her tits. I told you girlie: shoulda gone with Kumbu. But noooooo, you just had to go with the Caucasian kid, didn't you?
After about 10 minutes, my girl asks if I want to BF her. I look her in the eye and ask her if she thinks that's a good idea. She says "Yes, why not?" and I say "No, not why not. But why. Why is it a good idea?" To which she says "If you don't bar fine me, you will be missing". Ah, the FOMO argument. Does she think I am a millennial?
But I fall for it, not because of FOMO, but because I am feeling kind of lazy. I don't really want to put in the work to go find someone else suitable, and she is a very pretty girl, so I could do a lot worse, but not that much better. So 700 BF to mama san, and 3000 baht quoted for ST. I tell her that I will pay 3000 baht if it is really good, but 2500 if it is so-so, and 3500 baht if it is super awesome. She smiles and says ok.
She returns a few minutes later wearing a one-piece, grey dress that seems to be made of velvet. Velvet: who wears velvet in the heat of Bangkok? It makes her look both folksy and sexy at the same time. Her long hair drapes down the back, bringing attention to her bubble butt, and the length of the dress also brings attention to her slender but shapely legs. But the center piece of this art exhibit is her eyes. Alluring, mesmeric, and deep. Melodic, like her legs.
Melancholy Revealed
We walk back to the Landmark, not chatting too much. And when we get into the room, she is all business. "Me shower, then you shower, ok mai?" Ok kraap. After the showers, we lie on the bed in our towels and chat a little. I ask her how old she is (a youthful 20 yrs), and "do you have a bab-" and before I could finish, she snaps "yes. " Ok, I ask how old and she snaps "2 year old". And as this "conversation" unfolds, I begin to understand her low-key, understated demeanor.
I am witness to the loss of youth and fractured ambition. This girl got pregnant at 17 yrs, gave birth at 18 yrs, probably was deserted by some scum boyfriend, and out of desperation, is yielding her body and dignity to the thundering power of economic reality. Do you remember when you were 20 yrs old? Bright-eyed, ambitious, expectant. . . The world was your oyster. . . You could do anything. . . Any more clichs on this topic? Well, none of that applies to Naan of Rainbow 3.
While, very sadly, she is the norm and not the exception amongst the girls of NEP, that does not mean she cannot feel some bitterness or resentment. Nor does it mean she needs to do this with wild enthusiasm every night. So as this realization of her lamenting existence washes over me, I watch her face with a new found kind of sympathy. Her melancholic way struck a chord with me, and tonight at least, she would be treated with as much respect as the situation permits. I can't remove this oppression from her life, but I can at least help minimize it. And in so doing, this won't be charity: I will get something in return, but I just won't be exploiting the situation to the degree I could, nor will I engage in mocking her anguish.
Some of you are reading this and thinking that I am a sucker. That's fine by me. I'm just reporting what was going through my mind as this all unfolded. Do with that what you will: I am not going to preach to you about any of this.
Where's the Good Stuff?
Now, despite the above, I am still a man. And she is still a gorgeous young thing with a body to die for, and so my mind is still fixated on what men and women tend to do when alone together after midnight in a hotel room in a foreign country. Mongering is complex stuff: full of heady sexual desire, but also filled with complex emotions and epiphanies.
Turning to the more carnal, I expect some child-bearing damage somewhere, and indeed, once the towel came off, there was an incision scar down her belly. Her breasts are also somewhat haggard, probably from the deflation after the lactation stage. But they were still in pretty good shape. Her butt had some stretch marks, which were not apparent in the colored light of the bar, but this is the norm here.
I start to warm her up by rubbing her body, then kissing it, and then I go in to DATY, which she seemed to open up to. She got progressively more and more into it, and as I worked my tongue for her pleasure, she gently stroked my ears, my neck and my hair. I used those cues to guide me through the process, until she finally (after perhaps 10 minutes of hard work) crested, whimpered, and slowly released tension.
I kiss my way up her belly expecting to be welcomed like a hero and thanked, but instead, she looks away from me and says "You have condom?" Translation: let's get on with this. Ok, I get it, business first, right?
On goes Mr. Trojan, and in he goes. Because of the DATY, she was already very wet, but I was a little nervous because of her petite size. I usually don't pick girls so small because, well, little Kumbu is the aforementioned truck, and Naan is the aforementioned compact parking sport. In terms of girth, little Kumbu is very average, but in terms of length, he's kind of a poky bastard. So I was a little worried that this little woman would be impaled by little Kumbu, so I would need to be careful.
I inserted very gingerly, expecting her to wince, but to my surprise, it went in quickly and easily. I mean, her pussy was downright spacious. It would have felt so very luxurious, if it didn't feel so goddam loose. I hate to be negative, but there was almost no friction being generated whatsoever. This could take a while.
So in missionary, I am pumping like a fucking chipmunk trying to get some traction, but I'm getting nothing. I wonder what is happening to all this energy I am spending on her pussy. She needs someone to install some kind of regenerative braking system into her pussy. That way, all this energy being spent in her pussy can be used to help the world. It's part of the Kumbu's New Green Deal. Watch for it on CNN.
As I am pumping like a maniac, twisting left and right, arching up and down, all to no avail, her head is turned to her right, her gorgeous eyes closed, and she's panting. Is this doing something for her?! Maybe. Just maybe. But she senses that something is amiss, perhaps from my shrieks of desperation, and so she initiates a position change. She switches into a side-spoon position, and this now starts to do the trick. Her wide hips, bouncy butt and hint of a cocoa-colored orifice are getting little Kumbu a little worked up. Also, from this position, her pussy is feeling tighter. So I am getting some friction, at least. But still, it ain't enough for any kind of barely orgasmic sensations.
And Naan, sensing this, switches into doggie. Aaaaaaaaaaah, Naan, my darling, now you are earning that tip. As I mount her, I take a quick gander under the hood. Mmmm, what a gorgeous asshole she has. It's tiny, like the size of a penny in its entirety, and it has very faint crinklage, but otherwise is smooth and perfect. No protrusions, odd colored spots or irregularities. I think such assholes are a signal of youth. I think as you age, you accumulate irregularities in the asshole. You start out with the perfect asshole, and then each time you have some kind of digestive event, something happens to the asshole. We can call this Kumbus First Principle of Anal Irregularity. It's kind of the human equivalent of circles in tree trunks. Now stop it: I know you are mocking me right now, but in 100 years, I will be heralded as a titan amongst scholars, up there with Newton, Einstein. Children will learn Kumbu's Principles along with Newton's Laws and Einstein's Theories. Mark my words.
Applying Kumbu's First Principle of AI, you can probably estimate someone's age by the number of transformations from perfect. In fact, perhaps instead of asking WGs how old they are, we should just ask "Can I see your asshole?" And they would bend over, pull down their pants and we would inspect, right there in Thermae or the bar or night club. I think this could be a thing, I really do. Anyway, it's so weird saying that an asshole can be gorgeous, but we all know what that means. Right guys? Guys?
So doggie did the trick. Her compact, but very round ass, and very tight midsection, and that gorgeous asshole winking up at me were enough to get my motor running. Plus the angle of penetration created significantly more friction than otherwise, and so together, it was enough to bring Kumbu to a satisfying conclusion to this event.
Clean up, shower, chat, and then off she goes. Before she goes, she asks if she will see me again. Oh. That was a little unexpected. The melancholic nature of her interaction with me suggested she was not interested. But I suppose the 3500 baht was worth repeating. I thought about it for a second, looking at her in those thoroughly amazing eyes, and made up an excuse. I said I was leaving town soon, so probably not. Much as I enjoyed the latter part of our encounter (read: doggie), I could not bear to come face-to-face with the harsh realities of WGs in Bangkok the way that I did tonight. It's healthy, I suppose, but I'm not in this for the reality. I'm in it for the manufactured experience, one where I can imagine the best of the world, and not the worst. I know the reality, but I don't need to live it that closely. That's a luxury I can afford, but one that she can't. That's a sad, selfish fact about me, but it is part of what makes the mongering economy work.
The next post will be the first of a trilogy that will make up the final field reports from this trip for your pal Kumbu. The trilogy consists of a double encounter with a gorgeous woman from Thermae, and a blindingly wild, meth-driven encounter with another girl from Billboards. Crazy shit, so stay tuned.
Applying Kumbu's First Principle of AI, you can probably estimate someone's age by the number of transformations from perfect. In fact, perhaps instead of asking WGs how old they are, we should just ask "Can I see your asshole?" And they would bend over, pull down their pants and we would inspect, right there in Thermae or the bar or night club. I think this could be a thing, I really do. Anyway, it's so weird saying that an asshole can be gorgeous, but we all know what that means. Right guys? Guys?Absolute rectam Khun Kumbu.
In fact I have used this optimum modum on occasions in the venues before heading back to the loom, however my assumptions of age were totally inaccurate.
Most memorable experiences in Patpong in the late 90's and more recently at Windmill in Pattaya. (where in fact asshole inspections were fully encouraged).
Not convinced this will catch on in establishments like Thermae as the deed would most certainly create disruption to the rotation.
Thanks for the report.
BB.
Kumbus First Principle of Anal IrregularityI refer to it as Anal Integrity. I'm not a fan of assholes that have 'roids, etc. Really kills the mood.
Steve 9696
03-14-19, 11:06
Another highly entertaining read. Thanks man, you have a gift. Your talk of the magnetic eyes reminds me of Honey, aka Naughty Baby Girl, at Tokyo Hentai Club. OMG I could look at her for days straight.
If you enjoy reading adventures and living vicariously, as I do, I posted about Honey and 5 other Tokyo girls in that thread. For the most fun you can have without actual sex, see the Taipei thread (gangsters and illicit activity are all part of the fun!) And for how to spend a huge wad of money without orgasming, but still have a lifetime experience (ever had you dick cleaned with tequila?) see the Blues Bar post in Shanghai. It is almost anticlimactic to say there are two other posts there at the start of my trip with garden variety awesome hotties from Manhattan Bar in Shanghai. Hope some of it is moderately interesting.
Keep the epics coming!
Surely you recall she is not my type. Strong jaw is a bit too masculine looking for me (first time wondered ladyboy or not), not pretty for me, and lots of piercings don't really thrill me.
Raunchy yes, but I don't normally take overly raunchy girls either. Dark skin is no bother.I don't know that I would call her raunchy. That's a facade due to her wild look. Have you ever spoken with her? She's the most intelligent girl in the place and is quite sweet.
The bad thing about her is she wears too much lotion, similar to strippers in the USA.
Last 1 month or so, I'm trying my luck at Thai Friendly and wechat. I've stopped using Smooci altogether, go to gogos rarely and don't hit massage salons much. I'm just enjoying TF and Wechat and I've been lucky not to have a bad experience yet. I've met 6 girls in last month by these, wrote couple of FRs on them, and excluding one all are good enough that I've met them twice by now.
So, today I found a new bird at TF. Before finding her, I tried to organised that threesome which I talked about in my previous FR but the other girl was busy (some nice person had booked her for day), moved that plan for next week. Then I met this girl on TF, she only has 1 pic, strange for girls to have one pic on TF. Anyways, I hit her and after usual chit chat I asked if she wanted to meet. She replied with "3 k st". Perfect. Countered with 1. 5 K and deal was done like that. Now, asked her to come at 8 pm but she said she does dinner at 7 so 8 would be weird (ya, not huge fan of tasting her thai dinner either). She suggested 11, and I was on for it.
At 11 pm, she came, in nice red dress, showing her smooth legs. She was fit, neither skinny nor big. In room, we talked a bit, found out she has a baby, 2 years old. She said she's 26, when I doubted jokingly, she just showed her ID. I didn't see it though, and politely agreed. So, I believed she's 26. I was in much mood of shower, so asked her to go shower, and I waited by the bed like a lazy man. And then she came, wrapped in towel, and me in my innocence with no idea what I was in for. She took the towel off, showed her jewels. Nice boobs, and shaved pussy. No scratches, small tatooo on back and no baby cut mark. She jumped into the comforter and I went in too. I started with feeling her body. Touching her everywhere, and then kissing her neck, tummy and ears. And then started the DFK. Man, she didn't stopped for a second. I think for 10 minutes straight we were spooning, kissing each other and feeling each other's body. Then I started rubbing her pussy. And then one finger and then second went in. Simultaneously, I was kissing her and my finger were fucking her. After 3-4 minutes, her vaginal muscles contracted really hard, and she took my hand out.
I was so hard by then. Asked her to do BJ. She started BBBJ, and within 5 blows I was about to come. I asked her to stop. WTF right. Now, little background, I am a person because of whom these WGs get annoyed because I don't come. I have fucked WGs for 30 straight minutes without coming. And now, I was about to come in 5 seconds. Maybe because the make out session was fuckin hot. Told her I will come if she blow me more, and I wanted to fuck, so she put the rubber on. During this rubber putting session, little johny lost it's hardness, so she licked my balls to get him hard again.
Went in mis, and fuck, she was a wild girl. She had no limits. From biting my neck and chest (I don't know how she bit my chest when we were in mis, LOL) and even pulling my hairs. Again, I stopped in-between my thrusts to make sure I don't come so soon. Then I had enough, and I got in my push-ups position and started those powerful thrusts. The mixture of her loud moans, and melody of my balls hitting her hips was honey to my ears. Did those thrusts for couple of minuets and then I came. Confessed to her that I never came so quickly. She also said that she rarely cums but she did with me, but coming from a WG, I don't trust this statement much.
After shower, gave her 1500 + 500 tip. Asked her to stay the night, but she politely declined. Anyways, I took her line and asked if she's available on Sunday. She said yes, so, maybe you're in for another FR next week.
The mixture of her loud moans, and melody of my balls hitting her hips was honey to my ears.You must have a seriously loose scrotum, dude.
You must have a seriously loose scrotum, dude.Reminds me of that movie "Bad Grandpa" where Johnny Knoxville poses as an old man with his balls hanging out of his underwear about a foot.
Reminds me of that movie "Bad Grandpa" where Johnny Knoxville poses as an old man with his balls hanging out of his underwear about a foot.LOL I only remember that scene from the whole movie, movie was crap though.
You must have a seriously loose scrotum, dude.Haha. Ok, not exactly balls. More like groin. But whatever, I always love this sound.
LOL I only remember that scene from the whole movie, movie was crap though.If I'm not mistaken, that movie won quite a few Oscars that year. Best Picture, Best Actor in a leading role to Johnny Knoxville (mainly for the scene with his balls hanging out of his underwear in the strip club and when his penis was stuck in the coke machine after he tried to fuck it), Best Actor in a supporting role to the little chubby kid for his scene where he dressed as a little girl and entered the beauty pageant dancing to the song Cherry Pie while his grandpa rained dollar bills, and Best Cinematography.
Overall: Excellent movie.
If I'm not mistaken, that movie won quite a few Oscars that year. Best Picture, Best Actor in a leading role to Johnny Knoxville (mainly for the scene with his balls hanging out of his underwear in the strip club and when his penis was stuck in the coke machine after he tried to fuck it), Best Actor in a supporting role to the little chubby kid for his scene where he dressed as a little girl and entered the beauty pageant dancing to the song Cherry Pie while his grandpa rained dollar bills, and Best Cinematography.
Overall: Excellent movie.Right. Not just oscars, it is also in IMDB top 10 movies.
Don't know why Wikipedia haven't covered it at all.
P.S. I am assuming you were being sarcastic about the oscars, and not actually serious.
Right. Not just oscars, it is also in IMDB top 10 movies.I don't usually agree with IMDB, but I do see they have it listed at #3 for all time top rated movies.
1) The Shawshank Redemption (1994).
2) The Godfather (1972).
3) Bad Grandpa (2013).
4) The Dark Knight (2008).
5) The Godfather: Part II (1974).
6) The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003).
7) Pulp Fiction (1994).
8) Schindler's List (1993).
9) 12 Angry Men (1957).
10) Fight Club (1999).
Member #4698
03-15-19, 18:40
The Godfather (1972).
The Godfather: Part II (1974).
Fight Club (1999).I enjoyed Fight Club and I consider The Godfather 1 & 2 classics (duh). But I don't think a majority of ISG'ers would appreciate many of my all time favorite films like:
La Dolce Vita.
In a Lonely Place.
High Sierra.
Rocco and His Brothers.
The Asphalt Jungle.
Le Jour Se Leve.
Yojimbo.
The Lady from Shanghai.
Mississippi Mermaid.
My Darling Clementine.
La Strada.
The Idiot
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
To name but a few...
I don't usually agree with IMDB, but I do see they have it listed at #3 for all time top rated movies.
1) The Shawshank Redemption (1994).
2) The Godfather (1972)..Not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the film circle jerk parade, but isn't this thread for reports (or loosely related, of late)?
P.S. Where in the name of Buddha is Sausage Party?
Can't we get back on track?
LittleBigMan
03-16-19, 01:52
I enjoyed Fight Club and I consider The Godfather 1 & 2 classics (duh). But I don't think a majority of ISG'ers would appreciate many of my all time favorite films like:
La Dolce Vita.
In a Lonely Place.
High Sierra.
Rocco and His Brothers.
The Asphalt Jungle.
Le Jour Se Leve.
Yojimbo.
The Lady from Shanghai.
Mississippi Mermaid.
My Darling Clementine.
La Strada.
The Idiot
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
To name but a few...Where have I been? Am I out of touch I never heard of any of these movies.
Sorry to interrupt the film critic's circle here, but may I offer here the first in a 3-part report on my last two days in glorious Bangkok. During these two days, I encounter Naat of Thermae, who charms me beyond words; so much so that I opt to see her again the next day, and on the second encounter I get a hard dose of reality. And to make up for that disappointment, I make out with a meth-fueled crazy-eyed girl from Billboard who rampages the blues right out of me.
This first part of the trilogy will pi*s some of you off. But I urge you to wait for the second part before responding with anger and insinuation. The reason for your anger will be clear: I make the age-old error of falling for a WG. And in the next post, I see the error of my ways. And in case you are wondering, this is the umpteenth time I have been through this exact cycle.
𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖 𝄖.
I was bouncing, man, full of energy. I had my metaphorical dancing shoes on, and I was ready to boogie. I had just returned from a short overnight trip to a nearby country where I visited a girl that I have been cultivating for the last 2 years. She's a Chinese girl who is a charter member of the Amazingly Perfect Ass Club (APAC). You rarely find Chinese girls in APAC that privilege goes to German, Turkish, Russian, Spanish, Central / South American and Brazilian girls, IMHO. Anyway, I flew out on Sun morning, banged and sucked and banged some more her perfect ass all night in a high end hotel, and then returned to BKK on Monday afternoon. It was a wild, ass-fueled orgy-like experience (never done anything remotely like that). She was not P4 P, so no report, but this is just as a way to give background about why I was buzzing.
I walked into Thermae on Monday night feeling like the king has returned. I entered at around 10 pm, half expecting to see the same motley crew again. I was expecting to find nothing that inspired these old bones, and to then schlep over to NEP to find a cute little something to share this new found youth I was experiencing.
It was far less crowded than on Sat night, and that's a really good thing. I immediately turned to the bar before the old dude could tell me to, and I think he liked that. I ordered my drink, and as I turned, I noticed a sensational figure standing by the door. I mean, right next to the door, on the right as you enter, almost hugging the door. The girl looked to be around 5'5" tall, wearing an olive green cling-on t-shirt, short white shorts, and platform high heels. The short white shorts is what caught my attention because they revealed a superb, round ass, and legs that held the potential to bring tears to Kumbu's old eyes.
The set of eyes under whom these treats resided, as it happens, were looking right at me, and in the dimmed light of Thermae, those eyes were shimmering bright and sparkly. They radiated warm shafts of broken glass towards me, cutting right into me. She had her back arched, and so her head was leaning ever so slightly backward, almost as if she were in the throws of orgasm, and she was smiling ever so slightly right at me. This image pulled me into a blooming, buzzing confusion, since it was a sensory overload for my unexpecting eyes. But that blooming, buzzing confusion was a definite welcomed state, so I'm not complaining.
She was an Isaan girl, but one filled with youthful vigor. She had short hair, well, shortish. Her hair was not the peroxide hair we have begrudgingly come to accept as normal, nor the overly permed hair I sometimes see, nor the long, black straight hair that Thai girls often wear. No, it was cut short, just above the shoulders, and she had bangs. This was the classic China Girl hairstyle, if that means anything to you, and set her well apart from the rest of the crowd. That, plus her ass and legs, obviously.
And mutherfucker, she looked tasty. I mean, she was a 9 in my books, maybe 9. 5, and I promise you she would be close to that, if not more, in any one of you cold hearted bastards' books too. Her eyes were gorgeous: almond shaped, just the right size and spacing for her face, above a perfect smile, and a lovely shaped face. She smiled at me, and I turned away from her immediately. I mean, it was far too early for me to commit. . . Right? I should take a look around first. . . Right? Who knows what delights await further inside the bowels of Thermae. . . Right? All this went through my mind as my head was turning away from her, but as soon as I was looking away from her, I stopped, thought for a quarter second, and I realized I was totally wrong. Nothing was going to outdo this girl. Nothing. And now was the moment for me to act. In fact, she was easily the most beautiful woman I have seen this trip, and perhaps in the last few years too. What would I need to find deeper in Thermae that would out-do this gorgeous woman? Maybe Beyonce naked in doggie position begging Kumbu to fuck her in the ass? Yeah.
Look, she was a stunner, smiling at me. If not now, when? Don't be a fucking pussy Kumbu. Go out there and get the girl you want. Go.
So I turned back around towards her, and she and her friend were looking right at me. I turned my body to walk to her, and she and her friend dutifully looked down at their feet. I walked up to her, and as I approached, she looked up at me and a flutter went through my body. Oh oh oh ohooo, little China Girl. This is what went down:
Kumbu: Hel - .
Girlie: Sawad dii kaa.
Kumbu: Umm, sawad dii krap. How are you?
Girlie: Fine kaa. How are you?
Kumbu: Yeha, fine.
Girlie: where you from?
Kumbu: America. Where are YOU from?
Girlie: (points down to the ground) Here!
Kumbu: (laughing) Well that's good. Why are you standing here by the door?
Girlie: Umm. . . No space inside. . .
Kumbu: Are you hoping to escape?
Girlie: (giggling) To tell the truth (looks uncomfortably into the bar), yes!
Kumbu: Well, you want to escape with me?
Girlie: For short time, it is 3000 baht.
Kumbu: Will we have fun?
Girlie: (pause) Umm, much more fun than if we stay here (raises left eye brow).
Right? Humor, rapport, chemistry, this is what I am saying guys. This girl was it. She was fucking gorgeous, with legs that would not quite, and she and I just clicked from the get go. So I say "Let's go", and she grabs her bag and is ready to go. Meanwhile I have not even had a sip of my gin and tonic, but who gives a fuck about that? I leave it somewhere and scamper out with her like I'm a seven year old and it's my birthday.
We get a taxi, and as is the norm at that time of the night, traffic is a monster. So the drive back to the hotel takes about 15 minutes, and goddam if we were not chatting effortlessly the whole way back. Her English is amaaazing, meaning she has an American accent (signaling perhaps an American sponsor), ands he speaks fluently and easily. Moreover, she and I just hit it off. It was such a pleasure to have such conversation, after all the mindless interactions I've had with working girls in Thailand.
We chatted easily, comfortably, for another 45 minutes in the hotel room, just talking and giggling and slapping each other every time one of us cracked a joke. It was almost (almost) girlfriend type interactions. I mean, it was flirtatious and fun, but we both knew why we were here. So after 45 minutes, she suggests that she shower, to which I agree. As she is showering, I realize that my pants were wet with precum. Just chatting with her had got me all wet. I mean, yes, as we chatted, I was ogling her long, gorgeous legs, but the chit-chat was a turn on as well.
She came out all fresh and clean wearing naught but a towel, and so I hopped in and scrubbed the old bag and banger. I came out and, goddamit, we started talking again. And that ate up another 30 minutes. By now it was almost midnight, and my ST clock had almost expired. But she was not sweating it, so I suggested to her that I give her a massage. She was a little taken aback, since she was the one who was supposed to be servicing me. I told her that it was my pleasure to massage her, which it totally was.
So she flops onto the bed removes her towel, to reveal a most splendid ass. It was round, set upon some slim hips, with some, but not too many stretch marks, and Class A cheek-overhang. It was tight too: her cheeks were firm and strong. I had not seen the quality of the actual butthole yet, but given what was on display, I had chosen very wisely indeed.
So I massaged her neck, her back, her shoulders, and down to the small of her back, and then I skipped her butt (saving the best for last) and went down to the legs. I massaged those superb specimens for a good 10 minutes, getting myself wetter and wetter. I swear, at one point I almost ejaculated as I rubbed her right calf, so erotic was the experience.
But I eventually made my way to her round glutes, and it was well worth the wait. I massaged the flesh this way and that, giving it both the gentle surfacy massage as well as the deeper massage. As I spread her cheeks, I took a peek at the shy little one inside, and damn if I was not smitten. A more beautiful, well structured, symmetrical asshole you shall not find in all of mongerdom. It was even smaller than Naan's from a few nights earlier, with some mild perturbations around the edges (in line with Kumbu's First Principle of AI; read back if you don't know what that means). It took all the restraint in the world not to dip down and just tongue fuck that butthole immediately. But I didn't do that because this whole time we were chatting about various topics, and the chatting was super interesting and stimulating. I think the conversation would have taken a quick downturn if I suddenly stuck my tongue into her butt.
She does have a child, and that is why she is doing what she does. She goes to Thermae once or twice per month, sometimes not going for months at a time. She has a full time job; she wants her child to grow up bilingual; she has a dream of visiting Maui one day; she lives 40 minutes away by motocy, which makes for an early evening for her tonight; she prefers to listen than to be the center of attention; she prefers to interact with westerners than Japanese, Korean or Chinese, since she feels westerners are more open and frank; she likes massage, but until tonight had not had one for many months. And so on: we just talked and talked.
As we chatted, and as I massaged her, a rather odd thing happened. She slowly transformed from an object of my libidinous desire, into. . . Something else. It's very hard to find the right words. It's not as if she became a human being. That is too derogatory to how I see working girls in general. I generally respect, empathize and like the girls I go with, and I do indeed treat them with respect, empathy and affection. But very rarely do I get to know and respect them as individuals, at an honest and unvarnished level. Usually, no matter how deeply I interact with them, they are still superficial people to me since we both put on a personality that is not ourselves. The extent of our interaction, ultimately, is that I will share a few moments of lustful pleasure with them (or more like, I will obtain a few moments of lustful pleasure from them).
But Naat, through our lengthy talking, had grown on me. I had somehow developed a respect for her the likes of which I have not really had with other working girls. Granted, at this point we had had several hours of open, honest discussion. I had gotten to know a lot about her. She really opened up to me about her background, her current struggles, her aspirations. And it wasn't in the regular exploitative way. She wasn't singing the same old sob story that you hear from Isaan girls. No, this girl was smart, sophisticated, ambitious, caring. She had a spark in her eyes that was not same-same. Not a farm girl out to make a ton of cash so as to give it all to her boyfriend, mama and papa.
As I tired of the massaging, I began to think about the next stage in this event. What would I do? I thought about this girl, as gorgeous and shimmering as she was, and I imagined Kumbu plying himself over her, and I was reminded of a quote from Coetzee's wonderful novel Disgraced:
No more ugly than the sight of a man exercising himself on the body of a womanI felt that I could not subject her to that sight. Weird, I know, and I'm sure most of you are rolling your eyes at this thinking "what a fucking pussy". It was an odd feeling, but before you pull out the dagger-fingers and start tapping out some kind of "fuck you" response to this post, please keep in mind that I've been there, done that, and this is simply a report on the mental state of a monger at this point in time, in this particular context. Nothing more than that.
I contemplated not even fucking her, to be honest. But how could I let such a beautiful flower leave my presence without having just a little taste? And besides, if I did not fuck her, it would mean I could not pay her the full amount. And I did not want to deprive her of the cash. Yes, I am such a charitable man. So I got up, closed the black-out blinds, and switched off every light in the room. It was pitch black, and she cooed at how dark it was.
I then returned to her, fumbling, stubbing my toe and then stubbing my erect penis along the way, and sat down besides her, rubbing the head of little Kumbu to sooth the pain. I told her that I wanted to do it in the dark, and she giggled at the prospect. She said usually her customers want flood lights on, so this will be unusual.
So she returned to the bed, lying on her belly, and I started kissing her on the neck. I kissed her around the neck, around the side of her neck, up to the ear, and then back around her neck and down her back, slowly alternating pecking and licking every inch or so. I could not see anything, but I could feel the softness of her skin and the faint musk of her odor. It was so fucking intoxicating, I can't find the words. Little Kumbu was busting a new vein at this point. I kissed down to the small of the back, where I lingered and tongue bathed her down there. That got a positive response from her. I then started into the buttocks, and that was a feast for the ages. I kissed and squeezed and poked and nibbled and slathered and massaged and licked until my face hurt. I was there a good 10 minutes, which is actually a very long time to be focused on butt cheeks! The fact that I could not see them, but could feel, smell and taste them, added to the stimulation, since my imagination and memory of what they looked like enhanced the experience.
I eventually turned her around to reveal what I think was a close-trimmed pussy. I think her labia were a decent size since later on I was able to get them fully into my mouth. And her clit seemed to be a decent size since here too, I was able to provide some oral care quite easily. I peppered her tender area with some kisses, and then kissed the inside of her legs, just to get her warmed up. And then I took the plunge. I dropped into her clit first, working that for a good 10 minutes, and the expanded my focus of interest to include her healthy sized lips. I worked her for a full 25-30 minutes before she reached her crescendo, at which point she screamed out loud and shoved me away with the force of a MMA fighter. I sprawled across the bed, giggling as I flew (wheeeee), and she whimpered her apologies.
Note this whole time I had not even touched her breasts, which I did not realize until the next day. See part 2 of this trilogy for more on this point.
We rested for a few minutes, chatting in the pitch dark, and then I fumbled for Mr Trojan, which I had left on the bedside table. The sex was amazing. She was clutching at me, grabbing at me, kissing at me (not on the lips), and squealing in a very satisfying kind of way. Her body was tense, and she was whimpering and whining as if she had not had sex in months (highly unlikely, I know). I was inside her, in missionary position, and she was ramming her self into me, her back arched to an unnatural degree, her neck almost splitting in two. In short, we were really connecting. It was the most amazing sex I've had with a Thai WG in a long, long time. She orgasmed once in a long, loud, cock-crunchingly tense kind of way, and then slowly descended back to earth, as I finished myself off with a groan and a grunt. When all was said and done, it was well past 1 am when little Kumbu sputtered to an end and the clean up operation began.
We lay there in the dark for a few moments, huffing and puffing, sweat covering both of us. I was enjoying the dark, actually. There was no self-consciousness on either of our parts, and we could just recuperate in our own thoughts. My own thoughts were about her butt and her eyes the two prize possessions that she has. My guess is that her private thoughts were about the size of the tip I would give her.
I showered first, then her, and afterwards we chatted for a little more before she left. I gave her 4000 baht, kissed her on the forehead, and bade her farewell. Count this as another win for the working girls of Thailand.
Working girls: 3241.
Kumbu: nil.
P.S. Before anyone asks me for her Line ID, let me say this: nope. Read part 2.
The line up in Themae Friday Midnight not was not the best. Out of the whole bar there were one or two that almost met my standards. It was as usual jam packed with Asians. I again had to give some panting drooling pushy Chinese the old sharp voiced you in a hurry dude?
One of the ones I would do was an interesting looking blonde, almost looks mixed, but she is a sour puss and if they have a personality like a sidewalk, pass. Another was another blonde, but when I approached her she looked scared so I said Mai falang? She just nodded looking embarrassed so I gave her a smile, a mai pen rai and a bye.
There were some falangs in the place, pretty obnoxious by my book, walking the wrong way and being loud.
For those of you enjoying epic fiction: I have been in and out of Thermae all week too (normally its a once a week gig) and its been pretty lame. There are no stunners there, there are doable ones depending on your taste, but no chicks that I would put aside my tastes for.
So I went to Mixx and spend the rest of the night banging my Russian princess. There were some hot girls in Mixx last night.
Great FR. I've fallen for a few myself, and I think I know this ends. Wearing for parts II and III!
Sorry to interrupt the film critic's circle here, but may I offer here the first in a 3-part report on my last two days in glorious Bangkok. During these two days, I encounter Naat of Thermae, who charms me beyond words; so much so that I opt to see her again the next day, and on the second encounter I get a hard dose of reality. And to make up for that disappointment, I make out with a meth-fueled crazy-eyed girl from Billboard who rampages the blues right out of me.
This first part of the trilogy will pi*s some of you off. But I urge you to wait for the second part before responding with anger and insinuation. The reason for your anger will be clear: I make the age-old error of falling for a WG. And in the next post, I see the error of my ways. And in case you are wondering, this is the umpteenth time I have been through this exact cycle.
I showered first, then her, and afterwards we chatted for a little more before she left. I gave her 4000 baht, kissed her on the forehead, and bade her farewell. Count this as another win for the working girls of Thailand.
Working girls: 3241.
Kumbu: nil.
P.S. Before anyone asks me for her Line ID, let me say this: nope. Read part 2.Kudos to writing this report. I know it takes a lot of effort in writing these FRs. Good job. I will be waiting for next 2 parts.
It reminds me of previous encounter with WG, which I wrote a FR about last time. And yes you feel the same thing.
And I'm pretty sure how it will end, but still excited to read.
Last night I contacted one of my line girl, whom I met couple of weeks before and have already met twice. She's not very good at sex but gives somewhat passable GFE, like cuddling, tight hugging in mis, kissing neck etc etc. As this and title of post must have suggested already, last night I met her for third and last time. The encounter was nothing extra ordinary, especially as comparison to my last encounter with "TF gem", so I will try to keep this post short.
Called her in morning, asked if she's available. She was, and asked if I want to meet (read fuck). Don't know why she asked, otherwise why would I have messaged her. Anyways, arranged the meeting for 9 pm. She came around 9:15, which is not really a problem.
We talked little bit, although she can understand English quite well but her English vocabulary is very limited because of which she mixes some thai words in English. So chat was short and I wasn't into the talk this time. Went in shower together, and like last two time, she is fun in shower. In the end, she sat down on her knees and gave me 1-2 min blowjob.
Then we got into the bed and she started kissing my body. And let me be little confessional here. I don't have that good chemistry or rapport with her, as I had with many other regular contacts. The only reason we were meeting for the third time, because her fee is just 1 k. So, while she was kissing my body up-and-down, I asked her to do directly BBBJ. Her skills in this department are not too good. She surely won't be in my top 5, but neither in my worst 5. Which is good, because little Johnny is still recovering from previous encounter with the 'TF gem', when he almost cumed in 10 seconds. She did her best for 5 minutes but I was no way close to coming. Back to my former form.
After that we started doing reverse cowgirl, she was riding really fast which I don't like. Asked her to do slowly, while I enjoyed the view from behind. Then I sat up and fondled her small and soft boobs. After that we changed positions couple of times, nothing to shout about, I camed in standing doggy after 20 minutes. She was tired and little annoyed. But she got happy when I gave her 500 tip with her usual 1 k fee.
I am sharing her pics, she's 75% of what pics show. Skin is not as smooth as pics shows. Happy to share her line ID over DM to few, if interested. FCFS.
Sorry to interrupt the film critic's circle here, but may I offer here the first in a 3-part report on my last two days in glorious Bangkok. During these two days, I encounter Naat of Thermae, who charms me beyond words; so much so that I opt to see her again the next day, and on the second encounter I get a hard dose of reality. And to make up for that disappointment, I make out with a meth-fueled crazy-eyed girl from Billboard who rampages the blues right out of me.
This first part of the trilogy will pi*s some of you off. But I urge you to wait for the second part before responding with anger and insinuation. The reason for your anger will be clear: I make the age-old error of falling for a WG. And in the next post, I see the error of my ways. And in case you are wondering, this is the umpteenth time I have been through this exact cycle..Looking forward to part 2.
Could've done without the Disgrace reference as I've seen only the film and the image of a pasty, tubby Malkovich is going to be hard to shake.
PrateekKhanna
03-16-19, 14:50
Admin,
Please do some thing to this effect.
Amazing report and writing skills, Kumbu!
Thanks.
Sorry to interrupt the film critic's circle here, but may I offer here the first in a 3-part report on my last two days in glorious Bangkok. During these two days, I encounter Naat of Thermae, who charms me beyond words; so much so that I opt to see her again the next day, and on the second encounter I get a hard dose of reality. And to make up for that disappointment, I make out with a meth-fueled crazy-eyed girl from Billboard who rampages the blues right out of me.
This first part of the trilogy will pi*s some of you off. But I urge you to wait for the second part before responding with anger and insinuation. The reason for your anger will be clear: I make the age-old error of falling for a WG. And in the next post, I see the error of my ways. And in case you are wondering, this is the umpteenth time I have been through this exact cycle.
Banana Boi
03-17-19, 05:29
Prateek, you post a link on the Links to Reports of Distinction if you like someone's review.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction
Reality sucks, no? Fantasy is so much easier to live in than reality, at least for the 99% of us. There is so much more appealing about fantasy than reality. And prime amongst those things is that fantasy doesn't suck. The previous night, unwittingly, I had been the victim of my own fantasizing. I had "connected" with a gorgeous Thermae girl. I thought that the honesty that she was sharing with me somehow gave me a unique insight into this girl. That she was different. But on this second night, where I chose to repeat with her, I discovered that yes, she is different, but also same-same. Truer words have never been said, and there's a reason why that exact phrase has been on T-shirts in Thailand for more than 3 decades now.
Preamble
So let me set the scene. It was my last day in LOS. It was 9 am, and I needed to plan things out. I departed BKK at 7 am the next morning. This means a check out of around 4 am, so that gives me a full night, pretty much. The night before I had had an encounter with a super gorgeous lady from Thermae by the name of Naan. She stole my heart, and I so wanted another lick of that ice cream before I left this delightful spot on Earth. So I Lined her, asking for a repeat. She did not respond until noon, and she asked what time. I said 8 pm. My thought was that I could hit her again, and then do NEP or Mixx for a two-for for the night. Ambitious for this aging Kumbu, who usually is a one-pop per day kind of guy. But this being my last night and all, I figured I could handle it.
She agreed, and so I went shopping. Had fun on the town, rubbing shoulders with the affluent in Siam Paragon, and the backpackers in MBK. Man, that's exhausting business. Anyway, long story short, I was ready to rumble at 8 pm sharp. She Lined me saying she'll be a few minutes late. And she asked if I wanted ST or LT. The night before she had told me that she doesn't do LT because she needs to get home to her kid. But for her, LT is 8000 baht. OOooh, I had a good chuckle about that. So I said ST, for sure. She asked if I was sure, and I said oh yeah, baby, definitely sure.
Then a few minutes after that, she Lined me again saying 8:45, sorry kaa, etc. Just then, I get a buzz on Line from Pattii. . . The big-breasted girl from several nights earlier, asking if I was interested in a quickie, should she come to my hotel? Hmm. . . I was very tempted. . . But no, I turned her down. I wanted more of the gorgeous Naan. And as I was finishing up rejecting Pattii, Naan finally arrives, and she's looking like a bowl of fruit, with some fresh yogurt on top. Never mind that I am lactose intolerant. She's wearing a peach colored skin-tight blouse with white pants and stacked high heels. The heels and loose fitting pants highlight the ass that we all experienced in the previous post, and her blouse highlights the size and heft of her boobs. Here's where I realize that I never actually got into her boobs the night before; that is something we shall have to rectify.
Warming Up
I welcome her into the room, we hug and kiss, then the chattering begins. The chatting was more of the same: fluent, easy, natural, and very comfortable. I won't bore you with those details. But 45 minutes later, she finally goes in for the shower. Remember, the night before, the lights had been out totally, so I didn't really see her body in full form. I had given her a massage with the lights on, so I had seen her backside, but not so much her front side, and not her whole figure in the full light.
She came out of the shower with her towel on, and she looked super. I went in, and when I came out she was on the bed with her towel on. Before we began, she asks what I like. I said I like to touch, kiss and explore. I asked her what she likes, and she says donkey style. Ok then.
Every Star Eventually Dims
What follows was a series of steps down from the lofty plateau that we had reached the night before. Each one was like a shot to the gut for me. I so wanted her to succeed tonight: I was willing to tip very generously. But sadly, step after step, I became more and more disappointed. Some were physical disappointments, but others were more serious disappointments.
So I slowly remove the towel and take a peek at her boobs, and. . . Oh dear. What a disappointment. I had not even noticed this the night before, but they were scarred and stretch marked. I mean, she must have had large mammaries when she was breast feeding, because they were now like deflated balloons, and because of that, there was slight clumping of skin around the nipples and serious stretch marks. It wasn't terrible: I've seen (and sucked) far worse, but it was not in keeping with the perfection that I thought she embodied. That's not her fault, it's all my fault, but still, this was the first step down.
She commented about how she is sensitive about her nipples. I thought she meant she was ashamed, but she went on to explain that she does not like people sucking her nipples. Since she gave birth and breast fed her child, she feels that her boobs are an intimate part of her experience with her child. And to share that with strangers for money felt bad for her. I get that, but I think she's in the wrong line of work if that's the case. I mean seriously: what kind of WG says no boob sucking?! Step #2.
I looked over the rest of her body, this time in full light (as opposed to the previous night, when I had purposely switched off all the lights). What I saw was severely disappointing. Besides her aged boobs, her belly had the classic child bearing signature to it. It had ruffled skin with significant curdling around the belly. Now, I know this is something out side of the control of a woman. Having a child is not an easy thing, especially when done at a young age with few resources, and no support of any kind. It does damage to the body, and we really ought to have sympathy for women in this situation. All that is true, but in this particular case, when I am paying for the pleasure of her body, the quality of that body matters. And I'm sorry to say that the state of her front side was downright unacceptable. Her backside was an absolute wonder of nature, but her front side was a disaster. Step 3 . . . We're descending fast here. . .
Anyway, I had done DATY the night before, and she was not particularly up for it this time. Instead, to my great horror, she pulls out a bottle of lube. Ugh, I hate the sight of that! First, I hate the smell of lube, and I hate the fact that she's not willing to put in the time and effort to get wet. Step 4. But before that, she asks for a condom. I put on Mr Trojan, and she gets on all fours and starts sucking the trojan. Hmmm.
There are few things less appealing than having a working girl sucking on a piece of rubber, stopping every once in a while to wipe the taste of the rubber off their tongue with the towel. So little Kumbu was not coming out of his shell. He was as flaccid as a wet dish towel, despite her best efforts to reach him through the raincoat. Step 5, I think I am losing count here. . . She then dropped down and started licking my balls. At least there was that, right? The problem was that I had in mind the body-busting experience of Phammy from a few nights earlier, who had done a seriously good job at ball sucking. Well, no, more like ball electrocuting. So compared to that, this was kind of tepid. Nothing particularly earth shattering. And in fact, if you read the Phammy post you will see that her technique was so good that it drained blood from little Kumbu. But here, Naan was actually stimulating little Kumbu into a half erection. So in that sense it was working, but only because it was not as good as the other night.
But at least she was trying. She then pulls up, wipes her mouth again (yekh), and then pours a glob of lube onto the condom. She then mounts me and starts pumping. It felt like I had inserted my dick into a wanking machine. I mean, it was technically well done, but it felt very. . . Technical, mechanical, metronomic. She was pumping at a regular, well-rehearsed, perfectly-paced speed. It started slowly and every 30 seconds or so, she would up the pace. She was going through the gears, simple as that. Step. . . What was it again?
Once she hit top speed, she cruised for 60 seconds or so, then switched into reverse CG. Here, at least, she flared her right butt cheek to give me a direct glimpse into her butthole (which I remind you, was actually pretty damned perfect). I poked and rubbed it a little, then grabbed each of her butt cheeks and squeezed. . . Hard. . . Harder than I needed to. That's the bastard Kumbu coming out.
She tolerates my man-handling of her butt, and then switches into missionary. And here, I was getting nothing from her. I pumped for a good 5 minutes and I could feel little Kumbu losing power. There was remarkably little friction in her oversized pussy, and the smell of the lube was just turning my stomach. So I asked her to switch to "donkey". My thought was that I would just finish up and be done with things. I could then rest up and hit NEP later in the evening. I expected her to agree eagerly, since she had just told me that is her favorite position. But she said she would prefer to stay like this for a while. Hmm, okaaaay. . .
But as I pumped more, I was losing more and more of my erection. So I urged her to flip around, and she then did switch over. I climbed onto her and inserted, and for some reason, it was not working for me here either. I pumped, and pumped some more, and little Kumbu was not getting his mojo back. I looked down at her pert little butthole, and hoped that sight would raise little Kumbu from the dead. I rubbed it, poked it, rubbed some more. Nothing. I put my finger into her butthole and tried to feel the little crinkles. That ALWAYS works for me! But nothing. I grabbed both her butt cheeks as I fucked and tried lifting and dropping them. That feeling and sight is usually my go-to move to get little Kumbu up and ready to March. But the little fucker was fast asleep, interested only in a little nap. After a little bit, I got so flaccid that little Kumbu just slipped right out of her pussy, feeble and wet with lube. A pathetic end to a pathetic session.
"Why? What happen?
It isn't you (lie), it's me. Don't worry, it's all ok.
You see, it was very hard to put into words what was wrong. It's amazing how mental all of this is. The night before, I was in a different state of mind, and this girl was absolutely untouchable. Last night little Kumbu was in danger of rupturing a vein, but now, in a new frame of mind, with a few extra pieces of information, this girl was no longer untouchable, but now occupied a whole new territory in my estimation. I was totally not interested in her. Whatever switch had been flipped, she had gone from goddess to nothing in my mind. I think it was a combination of the errata on her front side, her lack of punctuality, her imposition of rules (no boob sucking, resistance to doggie), and that fucking lube. Such a turn off.
And then came the killer blow. As we lay there, me trying to understand what just happened, she says that earlier, on Line, she asked about whether I was interested in LT because she had to pawn her phone today in order to make rent. I looked at her, pointedly, unflinching. She said that she had traded her iPhone for a crappy Android phone so she could make rent. So she was hoping I would take her LT so she could get her iPhone back. She was obviously trying to lay this story off in a casual, nonchalant manner, but girlie, Meryl Streep you ain't. I could see through this acting job from a mile away.
This is what is called an upsell. She was selling a sob story here, right at the end of the event, hoping that I would spring for the extra money. It was such a rouse, an old story, an old hack to try to extract extra cash. She was calculating that this is my last night, so what do I have to lose? And we had had a great night the night before, so there's a decent chance I would go for it. But in my mind, this was just further evidence that despite all the trappings of a sophisticated, different girl, ultimately, she was just another girl trying to get the better of the hustle. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. It's exactly what she should be doing. But it reveals to me my own weakness: the desire and susceptibility to believe that you can connect with humans in a meaningful way in this business.
I know, I know, that's folly. But it's a natural instinct within me, and I can't shake it. And I can tell you that I will do this very same thing again and again and again. That's just how it will be for me.
I've had this con pulled on me dozens of times over the years. It is so fucking transparent; it has never worked on me, but it obviously works on some guys, which is why it keeps popping up again and again. So I urge her to beat it. She senses a sea change has occurred, so she hurries into the shower. I can see the concern and confusion on her face. The night before I had treated her like a princess, and she could see that something had changed, and that the game was over. When you're used to being the brightest star in the sky, it's not easy to become another brick in the wall.
I pay her the regular amount (3000), so I did not short change her or anything, since she did not really do anything wrong per se. After all, she can't control my state of mind. She did not deserve to be short changed, nor to be treated so curtly. I was never rude or mean to her, but I was not the same old carefree and easy going Kumbu. So she leaves, and as she does, she asks "Will I see you again?" I look at her, and her gorgeous eyes do nothing for me now. I know that is the last time I will see her, and I tell her "Good luck. ".
Such a shame, but better to know than to not know.
So I showered, rested for a while, wrote up a previous report for ISG, and then went out in search of an elixir that would sooth away this grumpiness. And just to warn you, what I found was wild, untethered-from-reality, and a really awesome end to a week in BKK. I look forward to sharing this experience with you all. It more than made up for the disappointment of Naan.
Basically two things happened here.
1. Last time you did not tried many things (I guess, can't remember from prev FR) like "donkey", BBBJ etc. So this time you were destined to be surprised and disappointed.
2. Her physical appearance turned off your mood. Happened a quite a few time with me too.
There are few things less appealing than having a working girl sucking on a piece of rubber, stopping every once in a while to wipe the taste of the rubber off their tongue with the towel.
It's not possible for me to agree more. Just couple of nights back, the girl I recently wrote FR of, did the same thing. Except she atleast did bareback. But still stopping every 1 minute was annoying.
Overall, a again kudos for effort put in the report. Also, happy for you that ended your last night on high note.
PrateekKhanna
03-17-19, 12:13
Yes, sure bro! Posted now.
Thanks.
Prateek, you post a link on the Links to Reports of Distinction if you like someone's review.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction
Captain Solo
03-20-19, 23:07
While waiting for a flight out of Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi airport, got talking to a bro who works for a mining company near Perth, Australia.
He spends lots of time on company business in Bangkok, sharing an apartment on the West side of the Chao Phraya with a Nana Plaza girl, paying about $200 a month, which also includes sex and homemade meals. It's an excellent deal considering he would have to pay close to $2,000 for rent alone in Perth with a wife and no sex, no meals hehe. He gave up a permanent home in Perth and lives in a hotel for the few weeks he had to come home. He said regional airfares are so cheap he can go back and forth without spending too much on transportation, and actually spend less on living expenses.
Young Thai girls in Bangkok are now much better-looking than I remember only a few years back. Would be very nice to set up household with a hot girl if you can put up with the heat, humidity, noise, dust and pollution in the city. Perhaps sponsoring a hot student and help her get education and embark on a professional career?
If the bro reads ISG, would like to connect for the next meeting in Nana Plaza.
Roaming Viking
03-20-19, 23:41
Hi all, I am headed to Bangkok in a week or two and am just wondering if anyone can give an update on the scene?
I like Crazy House, Kasalong, and the occasional Nana Park FL. I saw a really nice young one on my way back from Kasalong in January. She was standing a ways down close to the Family Mart by Hillary's. Boy was she ever cute. She wanted 1500 baht but I was just too shagged out.
I don't expect to make it to Pattaya this time but if do I'd like to return to Telephone Bar. Any news? What about Beach Road? And if I do go which inexpensive GF hotel should I stay in this time, close to Becah Road and Walking street. Any suggestions much appreciated.
Cheers!
Roaming Viking
03-20-19, 23:45
I forgot. Last time I went to All Stars for the first time and had a god time with Tatar. I was hoping to meet Nancy or May. They were not around and Nancy sure looks cute on her picture. Any news on either of these girls?
Thanks.
Hi all, I am headed to Bangkok in a week or two and am just wondering if anyone can give an update on the scene?
I like Crazy House, Kasalong, and the occasional Nana Park FL. I saw a really nice young one on my way back from Kasalong in January. She was standing a ways down close to the Family Mart by Hillary's. Boy was she ever cute. She wanted 1500 baht but I was just too shagged out.
I don't expect to make it to Pattaya this time but if do I'd like to return to Telephone Bar. Any news? What about Beach Road? And if I do go which inexpensive GF hotel should I stay in this time, close to Becah Road and Walking street. Any suggestions much appreciated.
Cheers!As of last night, March 20:
Its getting hot.
There was good talent in Thermae and not a lot of punters. Girls are wacking the Asians for 5 k a pop and the pay so the next time a termae girl refuses you you know why.
The Nana FLs were poor.
The Lip Service girls at Kasalong, L*s, Wood Bar, chrome and magic table were hideous.
Can't help you with GoGos.
Great Burrito at Margarita Madness. First time I ever walked in there and I was impressed.
My recent technique at term a has-been to just chat with a girl I think is hot, and then tell her good night. Then I'll see her in a couple of days when I go back, and chat with her again. After about 3 weeks, they're grabbing me.
You visitors to Bangkok upcoming have a good time, like I said, it's getting nasty hot. I'm out of here soon for my summer break. Only a mad dog or an Englishman goes to Thailand in the summer.
There was good talent in Thermae and not a lot of punters. Girls are wacking the Asians for 5 k a pop and the pay so the next time a termae girl refuses you you know why.5 K? Seriously? Is that the normal going rate at Thermae now?
The Dark Lord101
03-21-19, 06:17
Hi guys,
I will be hitting some of the following places in Bangkok today. Please recommend the ST and LT prices. It would be really helpful. Further, please suggest the best nuru massage in BKK.
1. Thermae.
2. Mixx.
3. Insanity.
4. Shock39.
5 K? Seriously? Is that the normal going rate at Thermae now?I'm assuming for LT. In October was the usual 2500 baht.
5 K? Seriously? Is that the normal going rate at Thermae now?Beats me, I pay between 2-3. Lot of times I refuse them at 3 and in a week or so, they are grabbing my arm.
Once we got into my room, Kim started off shy. We had a nice shower together, she took the initiative in soaping-up each other. She gave me a stellar blow job in the shower. I enjoyed running my soapy hands all over her nice, petite body and huge tits. She was completely shaved, which I really like. She looks better than her photos. The sex that followed was even better. Kim is a passionate kisser but it was FS where she really excelled. After pleasuring each other with oral, she suited me up and climbed on in CG and proceeded to bounce like a maniac. I don't think I've ever had anyone ride me like that. She had a finger on her clit as she bounced and was practically screaming. After she climaxed we cycled through a few additional positions with me eventually finishing all over her enormous rack. Highly recommended.
Couple of days back one of my regular contact shared an freelancer (her line ID). Suggested me to meet her, she needed some money and other stuff. I said sure, let me see. I saw the pics on line, and as you can see the girl looked good enough.
So I asked her price, she said 3000ST. I countered with 2000 and deal was finalized for the same night.
Though she messaged me later on and asked if she can come early. I didn't have any problem with that. When I met her she is on little fat side from pics. Other than that she was same as in pics. Now as you know from my previous posts, I don't have problem with big girls, but really, who likes surprises.
Reached in bed, did couple of minutes of talking and she asked for shower. Both went in and she took her cloths off. I never asked if she had a baby or not, but there was no baby mark or tattoo. She had nice boobs, smooth skins.
After shower she asked what I like to do. Now, this question always gets me, and I never really have good answer for this. So I started kissing her, she responded with enthusiasm. Her kisses were little sloppy, as her technique is something which can be improved. Also, she used too much tounge. Maybe others like it but I like it in the right proportion. But still I liked the kissing as she was quite into it.
After more foreplay, she moved to my dick. Started with licking my balls, then kissing the top of dick, and then in seconds my whole cock was gone. I can't see it, it was under her mouth. I love deep throat, especially when they do it without asking. She was quite good. The best part, she never went to condom, and tried to wrap it. She kept doing it for good 15 minutes I think. Then she asked for condom. After putting it, we moved to miss position. After few thrusts, she came on top. Now, I didn't liked wot with her even though her boobs in front of me, for me to play, was quite tempting. But still, I asked to do it again in missionary.
I loved the sensation of my chest rubbing her soft boobs. I delayed the ejaculations for a good time. Whenever I was about to come, I slowed myself. Why, because her pussy was quite tight. Maybe tightest I had in a while. We did it for good 15 minutes and she came a good amount of times during that.
Overall, it was pretty good experience.
Looks. Ok.
Attitude. Best.
GFE. Quite good.
BJ. Dame to kill for.
Pussy. Tight.
Wir. Just for that BJ, for sure.
Crocodilexp
03-21-19, 18:20
The previous night, unwittingly, I had been the victim of my own fantasizing. I had "connected" with a gorgeous Thermae girl. I thought that the honesty that she was sharing with me somehow gave me a unique insight into this girl. That she was different. But on this second night, where I chose to repeat with her, I discovered that yes, she is different, but also same-same.
That was a great read Kumbu. Most of us have been in similar situations, but very few have the ability to put it in words as well as you did.
I always dread repeating a girl that has been exceptionally good, since there's a low chance they live up to expectations, and a non-negligible risk it would end up in semi-disaster and cast a shadow on the amazing memory of the initial session. Those memories matter for future fantasies!
Over the years, I found only a handful of girls who were both exceptional the first time and kept delivering a great feeling each time, Ying from Tulip is one, and Nan from Star of Light another one.
For me, it's almost better to repeat with a girl who was solid, well above average, but with flaws, since there's more of a chance the second session will be as good or better.
That makes me feel should have a try.
Couple of days back one of my regular contact shared an freelancer (her line ID). Suggested me to meet her, she needed some money and other stuff. I said sure, let me see. I saw the pics on line, and as you can see the girl looked good enough.
So I asked her price, she said 3000ST. I countered with 2000 and deal was finalized for the same night.
Though she messaged me later on and asked if she can come early. I didn't have any problem with that. When I met her she is on little fat side from pics. Other than that she was same as in pics. Now as you know from my previous posts, I don't have problem with big girls, but really, who likes surprises.
Reached in bed, did couple of minutes of talking and she asked for shower. Both went in and she took her cloths off. I never asked if she had a baby or not, but there was no baby mark or tattoo. She had nice boobs, smooth skins..
Jimmy Jimms
03-22-19, 04:19
Rainbow 2 and the YUGE amount of coyotes. How can they do it financially. Most of the coyotes are below average in looks. LOL. Can't see how they are cost effective. By 10:30 on a weekday the bar lacks customers.
Couple of days back one of my regular contact shared an freelancer (her line ID). Suggested me to meet her, she needed some money and other stuff. I said sure, let me see. I saw the pics on line, and as you can see the girl looked good enough.
Overall, it was pretty good experience.
Looks. Ok.
Attitude. Best.
GFE. Quite good.
BJ. Dame to kill for.
Pussy. Tight.
Wir. Just for that BJ, for sure.She lists her weight on TF. Nice report.
Thanks for your nice report. How long did she stay for the 2000?
Couple of days back one of my regular contact shared an freelancer (her line ID). Suggested me to meet her, she needed some money and other stuff. I said sure, let me see. I saw the pics on line, and as you can see the girl looked good enough.
So I asked her price, she said 3000ST. I countered with 2000 and deal was finalized for the same night.
Though she messaged me later on and asked if she can come early. I didn't have any problem with that. When I met her she is on little fat side from pics. Other than that she was same as in pics. Now as you know from my previous posts, I don't have problem with big girls, but really, who likes surprises.
Reached in bed, did couple of minutes of talking and she asked for shower. Both went in and she took her cloths off. I never asked if she had a baby or not, but there was no baby mark or tattoo. She had nice boobs, smooth skins..
Anyone know the highest % of STD's in Thailand?
What are you usually testing "back from Thailand"?
TempStories
03-23-19, 03:40
How did you do reverse search on her on TF?
She lists her weight on TF. Nice report.
Thanks for your nice report. How long did she stay for the 2000?For one shot.
I think everything including shower before and after was over in couple of hours.
Robert Long
03-23-19, 06:48
For one shot.
I think everything including shower before and after was over in couple of hours.Charlie Sheen says, "we pay them to leave". 2 hours is just enough.
RL.
Anyone know the highest % of STD's in Thailand?
What are you usually testing "back from Thailand"?I don't know any percentages, but the only things I have heard of people catching are Gonnoreah (sorry about spelling) and Chlamydia. These ones are caught very easily. Maybe I read about Herpes once. Genital Warts maybe another thing caught, don't know.
The common testing will be for HIV even though far less likely to catch.
Prateek, you post a link on the Links to Reports of Distinction if you like someone's review.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2009-Links-to-Reports-of-DistinctionYou can even say why you like the report so much in the Report's of Distinction thread. A like button is so meaningless really.
Hi guys,
I will be hitting some of the following places in Bangkok today. Please recommend the ST and LT prices. It would be really helpful. Further, please suggest the best nuru massage in BKK.
1. Thermae.
2. Mixx.
3. Insanity.
4. Shock39.I would never go to Shock again. Really bad in many ways, maybe I am too old for that sort of shit. I can't say the best Nuru, but you could state how you like it to give guys a bit more clue. For me it largely depends on the girl and I lost all my MP favourites.
For me, it's almost better to repeat with a girl who was solid, well above average, but with flaws, since there's more of a chance the second session will be as good or better.No girl can be exactly the same level in all cases, yet there is always a good chance of improvement if she likes you. Some of my girls improved a lot on the 2nd try, but that was not going to make me stop there. The very best girls could decline slightly, but still be better than 99%.
Sometimes an apparent decline is actually a decline in the guy's performance, attitude, mood etc.
Kumbu's girl did not decline. He just was blinded by lust the first time. Happens! He was probably mad to pass up Pattii with the big tits.
I have found that sometimes choosing a stunning girl with a fab body, can turn into a great session with no disappointment at all, and have me definitely returning for more. Such a girl does not have to have a bad attitude. It is worth the risk when we sometimes get a suprising girl. These girls don't seem to decline much, unless something major happened like having a baby, going on drugs, etc.
People don't change that much. However a girl can perform much better if she decides she actually likes you more than she first thought and now is horny, and has had a few leg openers. Girls can improve very quickly. Usually major decline is over a longer period of time.
Fabulous girls first time maybe freaky, but I would never avoid them. That is way too negative. I would know if the body was bad the first time.
I am the reverse. I have a list of maybe 6 girls that I still miss after many years. These were girls that I got to fuck only once, was sent to heaven, then for one reason or another, never saw them again. Naturally they were almost all in the exceptionally pretty category with great bodies, or maybe the odd one was just exceptionally passionate without being quite stunning. Getting to do an exceptional girl only once is not better, maybe worse than missing out on a girl altogether. At least the girls I wanted to do but never had the chance may not have been this great.
The toughest experience ever was Cindy a stunning vivacious blonde Farang girl with upturned nose and big naturals at least C, who enjoyed our first encounter having just managed to fit me into her schedule, and the next day she came for me in her poor English saying "Cindy is here for you" , but I could not accept having got a bad belly from eating prawns. Had to stay in the toilet for some time at home. Never was another chance as she was just being an amateur hooker for that weekend, to accompany her GF. As she was not a proper hooker, and so good looking, she could virtually choose her customers, rather than the reverse. Now its 15 years later, I still wish I had another chance with her or more. She will be late 30s by now but possibly still gorgeous or could be a fatty by now.
I don't know any percentages, but the only things I have heard of people catching are Gonnoreah (sorry about spelling) and Chlamydia. These ones are caught very easily.I just caught something about a week ago. Probably from a BBBJ. I think it is either Chlamydia or Gonorrhea. The main issue is a terrible burning sensation when peeeing. It is really nasty.
So I walked into a clinic in Pattaya and the chick there nodded and said that my STD was quite common. She said that they treat gonorrhea and chlamydia together, so that meant an injection in the arse (for the possibility of gonorrhea), plus 4 pills amounting to 1 gram of azithromycin (for both chlamydia and gonorrhea). They didn't even bother to test me for what I had. For the treatment I was charged 2500 baht.
I know one thing for sure, and that is that I will never be engaging in any uncovered activities again. I never want to experience this pain again, and in my opinion BBBJ's are highy over-rated.
ChoduMadan
03-23-19, 11:38
It is Gonorrhea, however the easiest treatment is Norfloxacin 1 G one shot and td for 5 days thereafter.
I just caught something about a week ago. Probably from a BBBJ. I think it is either Chlamydia or Gonorrhea. The main issue is a terrible burning sensation when peeeing. It is really nasty.
So I walked into a clinic in Pattaya and the chick there nodded and said that my STD was quite common. She said that they treat gonorrhea and chlamydia together, so that meant an injection in the arse (for the possibility of gonorrhea), plus 4 pills amounting to 1 gram of azithromycin (for both chlamydia and gonorrhea). They didn't even bother to test me for what I had. For the treatment I was charged 2500 baht.
I know one thing for sure, and that is that I will never be engaging in any uncovered activities again. I never want to experience this pain again, and in my opinion BBBJ's are highy over-rated.
It is Gonorrhea, however the easiest treatment is Norfloxacin 1 G one shot and td for 5 days thereafter.Yes, I am wondering what it actually is. Initially, like for the first week there was absolutely no discharge, but just in the last 24 hrs there is a small clear yellowish discharge at times. It just seems to be getting worse even two days after taking the medication. I may have to find a proper doctor and some extra medication. Thanks.
They didn't even bother to test me for what I had. For the treatment I was charged 2500 baht.
I think you got ripped off badly.
Firstly you get treatments from a pharmacy for both of those much more cheaply. May make sense to treat for both. However other conditions are probably possible.
I don't know if there is Red Cross in Pattaya but in Bangkok one could be tested and get fast diagnosis for maybe 300 or 400 Baht.
So that is what I would do at first sign of anything wrong, then the pharmacy are experts in the treatment as good as anyone else.
Yes I once got Chlamydia from a BBBJ (most likely), many years ago. Still you have to be unlucky.
I think you got ripped off badly.
Yes, I had a bad feeling about it at the time, but I wasn't about to argue about the price. I wasn't even given a receipt. It was all pretty dodgy.
I will check out whether there is a Red Cross in Pattaya. Thanks.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-23-19, 19:06
I think you got ripped off badly.
Firstly you get treatments from a pharmacy for both of those much more cheaply. May make sense to treat for both. However other conditions are probably possible.
I don't know if there is Red Cross in Pattaya but in Bangkok one could be tested and get fast diagnosis for maybe 300 or 400 Baht.
So that is what I would do at first sign of anything wrong, then the pharmacy are experts in the treatment as good as anyone else.
Yes I once got Chlamydia from a BBBJ (most likely), many years ago. Still you have to be unlucky.Pharmacies in Thailand can do STD tests? They can give you a shot in the ass for gonorrhea? Would that not be practicing medicine without a license? Regarding Red Cross on Bangkok, I went there a year ago, paid for the test, and was told I would have the result in 2 weeks, which would have been after I left, so it was useless for me.
I went to the Pattaya Memorial Hospital last year for diagnosis and treatment and was charged 3100 baht, so 2500 baht is not that bad. There is a clinic, Buakhao Clinic, on Soi Buakhao between Soi 13 and LK Metro Alley that charges 200 baht for gonorrhea testing and 500 baht for chlamydia testing. I don't know how much they charge for the shot and drugs if needed.
MongerForSex
03-23-19, 22:09
Yes, I had a bad feeling about it at the time, but I wasn't about to argue about the price. I wasn't even given a receipt. It was all pretty dodgy.
I will check out whether there is a Red Cross in Pattaya. Thanks.Maybe you don't have STD or maybe your treatment was not well prescibed, before taking any treatment better to have a test to rule out any other bacterial infection. Taking unecessary antibiotics or the treatment is not well prescribed may make your body worse and can lead your body to drug resistance in the future. You may experience urinary tract infection that's not STD. I don't know anything about Thailand. Just find a hospital and get tested in order to have the right treament. You should have an urinalysis to rule out any other urinary tract infection that's performed in the office of the doctor.
I am dermanologist / venereologist in Brazil.
Yes, I am wondering what it actually is. Initially, like for the first week there was absolutely no discharge, but just in the last 24 hrs there is a small clear yellowish discharge at times. It just seems to be getting worse even two days after taking the medication. I may have to find a proper doctor and some extra medication. Thanks.I went through a similar thing 10 years ago. From memory it kept getting worse for a couple of days after taking the prescribed medication and I doubted that it would work. Then on the 3rd or 4th day it got better and was gone by the 5th day.
If you are into the 3rd day of meds, you may as well just finish the course and then if it doesn't clear up look at other solutions.
Azithromycin is one of the most common anti biotics out there, so since you are into the 3rd day of the course you don't have much to lose by just finishing the course
Bubba, Monger, and Jimmy.
Many thanks guys for your advice. Yes, I think I need to find a hospital today and try to get a test to see what this is. Unfortunately it is election day today so many businesses are supposedly closed, but probably hospitals are okay.
It is just starting day 3 after treatment today and like you say Bubba it just seems to be getting worse, There is a small clear yellow discharge at the tip, and it seems like the whole urethra is getting inflamed. Having a peee is a nightmare and very painful.
There is no course of meds Bubba. It was an injection to the ass followed by 1 gram of azithromycin taken all at once with 4 pills.
Actually I spoke to the chick who I thought I caught it off. She assures me that she is fine, and that she doesn't have any std's. But maybe there is symptomless gonorrhea sitting at the back of her throat. She says that she often gets tested every few months for a cost of 300 baht.
Board Members, sorry for hijacking the Bangkok thread.
Pharmacies in Thailand can do STD tests? They can give you a shot in the ass for gonorrhea? Would that not be practicing medicine without a license? Regarding Red Cross on Bangkok, I went there a year ago, paid for the test, and was told I would have the result in 2 weeks, which would have been after I left, so it was useless for me.
I never said that Pharmacies do tests but their knowledge can be good on common complaints, once you have been tested and know what is the condition. They know what to do for girls needing the morning after pill. Ha ha. Even doctors guess conditions wrongly so tests are better. Doctors often skip a test and diagnose wrongly. I have the experience of that.
You do not state what was the test that would take 2 weeks. I have never had to wait that long for anything I was tested for, certainly it is not that long to wait for Chlamydia or Gonorreah. Red Cross is both fast and cheap. HIV test is in 2 stages. The first (fairly reliable) result is within 1 hour. It will detect HIV unless was contacted in the last 2 weeks. They then do a 2nd test called amplification, that takes maybe 3 days, when one would be notified only if got a positive.
People are advised to wait for test results, however in practice, if my dick had a serious problem, I would start treating as soon as possible, but get the tests immediately first to make sure was on the right track. I don't like to take anti-biotics unless something really warrants it. Anti-biotics have good and bad effects.
One website recommends Swing Health Centre, Pattaya, however I have not used it nor know the prices.
There is no course of meds Bubba. It was an injection to the ass followed by 1 gram of azithromycin taken all at once with 4 pills.Usually azithromycin is taken as a course, it is usually 1 pill per day for 4 or 5 days. Are you absolutely sure it was meant to be taken all at once. ?
Usually azithromycin is taken as a course, it is usually 1 pill per day for 4 or 5 days. Are you absolutely sure it was meant to be taken all at once. ?Yes I am sure that it taken all at once and at the time of the injection. That is what I am reading on all of the websites. They do mention doxycycline as an alternative to azithromycin and that is taken as a 5 day course I think.
MySecretLife
03-24-19, 05:51
Bubba, Monger, and Jimmy.
Many thanks guys for your advice. Yes, I think I need to find a hospital today and try to get a test to see what this is. Unfortunately it is election day today so many businesses are supposedly closed, but probably hospitals are okay.
It is just starting day 3 after treatment today and like you say Bubba it just seems to be getting worse, There is a small clear yellow discharge at the tip, and it seems like the whole urethra is getting inflamed. Having a peee is a nightmare and very painful.
There is no course of meds Bubba. It was an injection to the ass followed by 1 gram of azithromycin taken all at once with 4 pills.
Actually I spoke to the chick who I thought I caught it off. She assures me that she is fine, and that she doesn't have any std's. But maybe there is symptomless gonorrhea sitting at the back of her throat. She says that she often gets tested every few months for a cost of 300 baht.
Board Members, sorry for hijacking the Bangkok thread.Hello Franga,
I'm sorry to know about your ordeal. I've read through your posts and other learned members' responses as well. I'm not a qualified medical professional, but I've gone through severe UTI few years back. So, as an old patient, daring to compose this note.
You would need to have better and thorough medical consultation urgently.
You might want to have a quick STD panel test plus check for UTI culture to identify the bacteria.
Wish you a speedy recovery from a fellow punter in Bangalore, India.
Regards,
MSL.
Usually azithromycin is taken as a course, it is usually 1 pill per day for 4 or 5 days. Are you absolutely sure it was meant to be taken all at once. ?Azithromycin will be taken generally (1000 MG) in one dose. 2 500 MG pills, or 4 250 MG pills. That takes care of the chlamydia, but not gonnorrhea. You will get a shot of Ceftraxione for gonnorhea. Both those meds will take care of anything you could have as far as minor sti's. It will take about a week before you should have any unprotected sexual contact without being contagious. I'll f Azuthromycin didn't work. The you would take doxycycline everdday (2 times 100 MG) for 7 days.
Azithromycin will be taken generally (1000 MG) in one dose. 2 500 MG pills, or 4 250 MG pills. That takes care of the chlamydia, but not gonnorrhea. You will get a shot of Ceftraxione for gonnorhea. Both those meds will take care of anything you could have as far as minor sti's. It will take about a week before you should have any unprotected sexual contact without being contagious. I'll f Azuthromycin didn't work. The you would take doxycycline everdday (2 times 100 MG) for 7 days.That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the clarification.
Hi all, I am headed to Bangkok in a week or two and am just wondering if anyone can give an update on the scene?
I like Crazy House, Kasalong, and the occasional Nana Park FL. I saw a really nice young one on my way back from Kasalong in January. She was standing a ways down close to the Family Mart by Hillary's. Boy was she ever cute. She wanted 1500 baht but I was just too shagged out.
I don't expect to make it to Pattaya this time but if do I'd like to return to Telephone Bar. Any news? What about Beach Road? And if I do go which inexpensive GF hotel should I stay in this time, close to Becah Road and Walking street. Any suggestions much appreciated.
Cheers!Pattaya is still working girl heaven. Just walk down either side of Beach Road to Walking Street and there's a girl every 5 feet.
People complain about the talent all over BKK and Pattaya, but if you take your time, you can find something good.
I still like Soi 6 the best as far as money and value and cuteness and Red Point Bar always has a few I like.
MongerForSex
03-24-19, 13:32
Bubba, Monger, and Jimmy.
Many thanks guys for your advice. Yes, I think I need to find a hospital today and try to get a test to see what this is. Unfortunately it is election day today so many businesses are supposedly closed, but probably hospitals are okay.
It is just starting day 3 after treatment today and like you say Bubba it just seems to be getting worse, There is a small clear yellow discharge at the tip, and it seems like the whole urethra is getting inflamed. Having a peee is a nightmare and very painful.
There is no course of meds Bubba. It was an injection to the ass followed by 1 gram of azithromycin taken all at once with 4 pills.
Actually I spoke to the chick who I thought I caught it off. She assures me that she is fine, and that she doesn't have any std's. But maybe there is symptomless gonorrhea sitting at the back of her throat. She says that she often gets tested every few months for a cost of 300 baht.
Board Members, sorry for hijacking the Bangkok thread.Gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis are often symptomless because their immune system can control it and people infect their partners without knowing they are infected and they are cured overtime without knowing they were infected.
Maybe she recently contracted and infect you without knowing, maybe she did not get tested. Just find an accredited doctor by preference (urologist or venereologist). The problem may be caused by parasite (trichomoniasis) or caused by urinary tract infection (not std) or your treatment was not well prescribed (gonorrhea and chlamydia). That's why you have to get tested from an accredited medical center.
They can give you a shot in the ass for gonorrhea? Would that not be practicing medicine without a license? I'm not sure if they would do it for gonorrhea but I received a few shots of antibiotics in the ass a few years ago from a pharmacist in Pattaya for an open wound on my toe that got worse after a few days. But you've got to find the independent pharmacies (no brand on it, preferably written in Thai) and it would be better if the pharmacist is an older guy.
It is just starting day 3 after treatment today and like you say Bubba it just seems to be getting worse, There is a small clear yellow discharge at the tip, and it seems like the whole urethra is getting inflamed. Having a peee is a nightmare and very painful.
There is no course of meds Bubba. It was an injection to the ass followed by 1 gram of azithromycin taken all at once with 4 pills..Hi Franga,
Sorry to hear what you're going through.
I too caught some std that had the exact same effects than the one you described (except it healed before any yellow discharge happened).
It was burning like hell at the point that I was very scared every time I had to go and have a pee.
I did just arrived back in my country when I realized it (I could clearly identify the moment I caught it, 2 days before my flight back).
I didn't go to check it because in my country some of these doctors are *ssh*les than like to make you feel bad when you caught an std or when you're doing a std checkup.
In fact I didn't took any medicine.
I did only 2 things: first drink a lot more water than usual to not let the bacteria go further up in the urethra, and secondly every time I had to go to toilet I took time to slowly spread the skin at the exit of my urethra. Just doing this reduced the pain of maybe 30% because it's the amount of liquid that have to go through that wounded area in an extremely brief time that open and worsen the wound in your urethra caused by the bacteria, and every time I went to toilet the pain was diminishing and I was completely healed after maybe four or five days. But in my case I'm circumcised (it probably helped me a lot) and I caught the disease maybe 4 days earlier.
The girl can have the bacteria in her mouth and never give it to anyone until she does anything weird.
The girl that gave it to me was the exact same girl that I was staying with during my last 2 weeks, and she gave me a lot of BBBJ before she infected me. The moment she infected me, she just spread the skin on the exit of my urethra and licked inside for a few seconds, it was enough to let the bacteria enter the urethra. I remember the next day I already had a strange feeling in my dick when I went to toilet, but as I never caught any std I didn't know what it was until it started burning the next days.
It's probably too late for you to follow only these two steps but I'm pretty sure that even in your condition you should consider drinking a lot more water than usual and even put some lemon in it.
Good luck.
Just find an accredited doctor by preference (urologist or venereologist). The problem may be caused by parasite (trichomoniasis) or caused by urinary tract infection (not std) or your treatment was not well prescribed (gonorrhea and chlamydia). That's why you have to get tested from an accredited medical center.Guys, thanks for all your advice. I have posted in the Safe Sex in Thailand section about my visit to a hospital in Pattaya today.
I'm not sure if they would do it for gonorrhea but I received a few shots of antibiotics in the ass a few years ago from a pharmacist in Pattaya for an open wound on my toe that got worse after a few days. But you've got to find the independent pharmacies (no brand on it, preferably written in Thai) and it would be better if the pharmacist is an older guy.I just bought Ceftraxione (1 MG injectable with lidocaine) and disposable syringes from one of the Pharmacies in Rama 4 right across the street from the hospital and Thai Red Cross testing center. I also picked up the azithromycin there. I had been tested for the range of sti's at Thai Red cross 30 min before, but the test results take around 2 weeks to come back. So I just went with treating myself so that I didn't have to wait 2 weeks to choose what antibiotic treatment was needed. I just watched a youtube vid on how to IM inject. I self injected and took the single dose of Azith and that sorted all symptoms out within a few days. 2 weeks later the results came back that I had contracted Chlamydia, so the shotgun treatment approach saved me time and got rid of the sti sooner.
I know that self diagnosing from the internet is a bad idea in some cases, but with the ease of buying things over the counter in Thailand, it's pretty damn convenient for a common sti. Testing is cheap, but slow. And 250 baht worth of meds solved the problem long before the test results came back.
It was burning like hell at the point that I was very scared every time I had to have a peee.
The girl can have the bacteria in her mouth and never give it to anyone until she does anything weird.
The moment she infected me, she just spread the skin on the exit of my urethra and licked inside for a few seconds, it was enough to let the bacteria enter the urethra.Hi Paolo, many thanks for your very interesting report. Yes, the burning when peeeing one of the worst things I have ever encountered. I too am fearful. It just makes me realise that I won't be letting any chicks in future suck on my dick. It's just not worth the possible adverse consequences.
I do observe the chick who I thought I caught it off eating a lot prior to servicing me. She doesn't seem to go and clean her teeth prior to seeing me, so I have often wondered what sort of bacterias associated with the food are in her mouth. She does use listerine, but the doctor told me that is not 100% effective.
I am amazed that you recovered without any medications. Maybe it was a non STI?
Yes, good advice on the drinking lots of water. That is one thing that my doctor recommended, so as to help flush out the bacteria in the urethra through more frequent peeeing.
That is a very pertinent observation about the girl licking the inside of your urethra. I will remember that one. Thanks for your input.
I am amazed that you recovered without any medications. Maybe it was a non STI?
Yes, good advice on the drinking lots of water. That is one thing that my doctor recommended, so as to help flush out the bacteria in the urethra through more frequent peeeing.
That is a very pertinent observation about the girl licking the inside of your urethra. I will remember that one. Thanks for your input.I'm sure that it was a sti because firstly I never had any infection of any kind before, and secondly I'm aware that the exact same girl infected many other guys also (I didn't know that at the time I was meeting her, I realised it only later), then I felt it was very weird at the moment she licked the inside of the urethra, then the next day I was already feeling a discomfort and it got worse very quickly. The only thing I don't know is which bacteria it was. The fact that she infected other guys in a long period of time (many weeks) also shows that she is probably permanently infected by these bacteria.
Another time I felt the exact same discomfort the next day that a Nana plaza girl gave me a BBBJ and I immediately drank a lot more water to make me going toilet very frequently and the discomfort went away quickly without any side effect, although I cannot be sure for that time but I suspect very strongly that it was another sti because the girl was far from being hygienic.
You've got to act very quickly in these kind of situation to not let the bacteria going further the urethra because it seems that once it arrives in the testicles it's almost impossible to get rid of it.
I had been tested for the range of sti's at Thai Red cross 30 min before, but the test results take around 2 weeks to come back. So I just went with treating myself so that I didn't have to wait 2 weeks to choose what antibiotic treatment was needed. I just watched a youtube vid on how to IM inject. I self injected and took the single dose of Azith and that sorted all symptoms out within a few days. 2 weeks later the results came back that I had contracted Chlamydia, so the shotgun treatment approach saved me time and got rid of the sti sooner.
I know that self diagnosing from the internet is a bad idea in some cases, but with the ease of buying things over the counter in Thailand, it's pretty damn convenient for a common sti. Testing is cheap, but slow. And 250 baht worth of meds solved the problem long before the test results came back.I can't imagine the pain you would have gone through if you waited 2 weeks to get the results, good move from you.
I too always try to see how I could do to heal it by myself, and when I see a doctor I don't always take blindly what they give to me if I feel it's something weird.
I agree, the fact that we can get a lot of products without prescription is one of the things that I really love in Thailand.
I am off to Thailand, Cambodia and Malaysia for a few weeks.
I have been to BKK a times but just very short transit stays and a few business engagements.
This time I will have 2-3 weeks. Focus would be on freelancers, with occasional gogo pickup.
I have been a member of thaifriendly for almost 3 years but just added paid membership to my account.
Just found that almost 30-40% girls there are free lancers (who admit it upfront).
Price ranges from 1300 (32 years old hot MILF in Pattaya) to 6000 (19 years old fresh school graduate in cheerleader uniform) for ST.
Have spent 2 hra a day for last 4 days and have about 20 contacts lined up in bkk and pattaya.
Will try to post individual reviews as I sample the goods and services.
I wrote a generic message.
Hi. I am xxxx. Coming to BKK for holidays on 28th Mar. Would love to meet for a coffee, meals, beers or more. Cam help.
Cheers.
Sent this to about 150 ladies. Got 50 responses. Have about 20 lined up at line.
Om this note, can a senior member give pointers to raunchiest gogo. Would lime to show pingpong show for once without getting robbed (bucket list).
TIA.
member give pointers to raunchiest gogo. Would lime to show pingpong show for once without getting robbed (bucket list).
TIA.Well done on the TF effort. Yes. That is the amount of workload required to find the diamonds in the ruff.
You must directly go to Windmill in Pattaya if you want raunchy.
Be prepared to be scammed / robbed at all pingpong venues. It's non negotiable.
I am off to Thailand, Cambodia and Malaysia for a few weeks.
I have been to BKK a times but just very short transit stays and a few business engagements.
This time I will have 2-3 weeks. Focus would be on freelancers, with occasional gogo pickup.
I have been a member of thaifriendly for almost 3 years but just added paid membership to my account.
Just found that almost 30-40% girls there are free lancers (who admit it upfront).
Price ranges from 1300 (32 years old hot MILF in Pattaya) to 6000 (19 years old fresh school graduate in cheerleader uniform) for ST.
Have spent 2 hra a day for last 4 days and have about 20 contacts lined up in bkk and pattaya.
Will try to post individual reviews as I sample the goods and services.
I wrote a generic message.
Hi. I am xxxx. Coming to BKK for holidays on 28th Mar. Would love to meet for a coffee, meals, beers or more. Cam help.
Cheers.
Sent this to about 150 ladies. Got 50 responses. Have about 20 lined up at line.
Om this note, can a senior member give pointers to raunchiest gogo. Would lime to show pingpong show for once without getting robbed (bucket list).
TIA.Last time I was in Suzie Wong's on soi Cowboy (New Years Eve), they had a ping pong show as one of the regular rotating acts. You don't have to worry about any of the scam games there. They had a pretty tired gogo girl there firing off ping pong balls at group of horrified backpackers. You can grab a paddle and play also!
Hi Paolo, many thanks for your very interesting report. Yes, the burning when peeeing one of the worst things I have ever encountered. I too am fearful. It just makes me realise that I won't be letting any chicks in future suck on my dick. It's just not worth the possible adverse consequences.
I do observe the chick who I thought I caught it off eating a lot prior to servicing me. She doesn't seem to go and clean her teeth prior to seeing me, so I have often wondered what sort of bacterias associated with the food are in her mouth. She does use listerine, but the doctor told me that is not 100% effective.
I am amazed that you recovered without any medications. Maybe it was a non STI?
Yes, good advice on the drinking lots of water. That is one thing that my doctor recommended, so as to help flush out the bacteria in the urethra through more frequent peeeing.
That is a very pertinent observation about the girl licking the inside of your urethra. I will remember that one. Thanks for your input.STDs are a part of the hobby. Your going to get them. When the boys would go on trips to other SE Asian destinations back in the day, we'd always be stocked with antibiotics. Your going to get the drips, the burns, the blisters, and probably warts at some point if you screw enough gals. Again, it's part of the hobby. The problem is now there are many multi-drug resistant strains of gon and mycoplasma infections out there. I've known a couple of dudes who have recently had a very hard time getting rid of infections. That being said, I'm not going to stop getting BBBJs. I do cover for FS though.
Last time I was in Suzie Wong's on soi Cowboy (New Years Eve), they had a ping pong show as one of the regular rotating acts. You don't have to worry about any of the scam games there. They had a pretty tired gogo girl there firing off ping pong balls at group of horrified backpackers. You can grab a paddle and play also!Thanks for pointers. It is just a novelty experience. And I understand that most nubile, 18 years old wouldn't be doing it. It would most probably be some one with a million km on odo.
TempStories
03-26-19, 14:40
Most TF girls who are agreeing to meet are refusing BBBJ. They are OK CBJ. Is that the norm on TF? Should one even ask it before meeting them?
I am off to Thailand, Cambodia and Malaysia for a few weeks.
I have been to BKK a times but just very short transit stays and a few business engagements.
This time I will have 2-3 weeks. Focus would be on freelancers, with occasional gogo pickup.
I have been a member of thaifriendly for almost 3 years but just added paid membership to my account.
Just found that almost 30-40% girls there are free lancers (who admit it upfront).
Price ranges from 1300 (32 years old hot MILF in Pattaya) to 6000 (19 years old fresh school graduate in cheerleader uniform) for ST..
Hey fellow mongers,
Those of you using ThaiFriendly, what is your experience with girls whose profile says shit like they are looking for serious relationship only etc. Do they mean it or is it just a pose so they wouldn't look cheap but in fact are OK with one night bang?
Most TF girls who are agreeing to meet are refusing BBBJ. They are OK CBJ. Is that the norm on TF? Should one even ask it before meeting them?Going to meet first one tomorrow. Will report after that. Have met 3 types so far.
1. Just talked like a normal girl and agree to meet for coffee / meal / drinks / party etc.
2. Free lancers who will meet you and leave it up to you to pay them what you want to.
3. Free lancers very open about services and prices.
I think you can openly discuss your options with first group 2 and 3. Group 1 would be sort of a holiday GF and like a regular date. You get what you can and be happy about it. At least I would be.
Hey fellow mongers,
Those of you using ThaiFriendly, what is your experience with girls whose profile says shit like they are looking for serious relationship only etc. Do they mean it or is it just a pose so they wouldn't look cheap but in fact are OK with one night bang?Waste of time. Move on. Especially the profiles with a wall of text.
Hey fellow mongers,
Those of you using ThaiFriendly, what is your experience with girls whose profile says shit like they are looking for serious relationship only etc. Do they mean it or is it just a pose so they wouldn't look cheap but in fact are OK with one night bang?They don't mean it, 555! I have never met a girl from TF and not had sex with her at some point. I'd say that 9 out of 10 times it's the first time we meet will have sex that day. Just be nice and not to pushy with suggesting anything sexual. Meet up for some dinner or a coffee and you will be fucking them soon enough. Most of those girls seem to move on pretty quickly if you don't start trying to turn them into your girlfriend quick enough. They'll just move onto the next guy willing to overcommit to them quickly. And I thank all of those gentleman for doing me that favor.
I just had another girl contact me with no profile pic. I usually wouldn't bother to answer, but I was killing some time. Turns out that she pretty quickly told me that she was loooking for a "friend with benefits". We moved over to line and exchanged photos. She was average and a little chubby, but why not. She said that she had a boyfriend back in the US, but she was lonely and needed someone to lay her some pipe discreetly. Hence the profile with no pic and fake info. That night I picked her up and took her to the curtain motel to give her what she wanted. She wants to see me on the regular just for sex. So that just goes to show that saving face is everything in Thailand.
HorseTrader
03-27-19, 05:23
Hey fellow mongers,
Those of you using ThaiFriendly, what is your experience with girls whose profile says shit like they are looking for serious relationship only etc. Do they mean it or is it just a pose so they wouldn't look cheap but in fact are OK with one night bang?I can only tell you what I've observed plus what one buddy has observed. In my experience, wanting a "serious relationship only" means she wants a long term serious relation and she's willing to fuck your brains out on night one to get it. By the way, serious relationship in Thailand means the man pays a whole lot of the woman's expenses.
My first ThaiFriendly date told me many times that there would be no sex and I had to get a separate hotel room for her and her girlfriend. But, 10 minutes after we said goodnight she was at my door wearing a teddy bear nighty and we were fucking a short time later.
In the last 3 years my buddy has actually turned 3 different ThaiFriendly women into his fiance without paying for sex, and the last fiance is now his wife. The most expensive pussy is the free pussy. They are not all prostitutes.
Hey fellow mongers,
Those of you using ThaiFriendly, what is your experience with girls whose profile says shit like they are looking for serious relationship only etc. Do they mean it or is it just a pose so they wouldn't look cheap but in fact are OK with one night bang?Some of them actually mean it. But basically what they mean, is they won't do one night stand for few thousand bahts, they want someone to pay their expenses for a long time and then she will let him full her. Just ask what they like, and 90% of time time you will get, "sleeping and shopping" LOL.
QutabMinar
03-27-19, 11:48
Hi Guys,
I am travelling for a couple of days next week and would appreciate some specific tips or locations where I can find some CIS chics.
Rates are not much of an issue if they are worth it.
Any tips would be highly recommended.
Also, is an Airbnb Safe for such activities in Bangkok?
I did Read the forum a lot but it is still a little confusing so find specific information.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
PM is active in case some good soul wants to give some private tips.
Hi Guys,
I am travelling for a couple of days next week and would appreciate some specific tips or locations where I can find some CIS chics.
Rates are not much of an issue if they are worth it.
Any tips would be highly recommended.
Also, is an Airbnb Safe for such activities in Bangkok?
I did Read the forum a lot but it is still a little confusing so find specific information.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
PM is active in case some good soul wants to give some private tips.It isn't confusing if you truly have read the forum. I personally have been providing information.
But here, Ill help ya out: Mixx after Midnight Thursday to Saturday, 5,000 to 10,000 B Ukrainians, Uzbek, Azerbaijanis.
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