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With the utmost respect dude, that constant reference to the better looking girls being on the left side of Thermae is utter malarky.
I was in there last night (way to crowded). Its the same smattering of hotties through out. In fact, the talent has been getting better.
The only thing the left side has (as you are facing the bar) is that they are sometimes overall younger, except for the older one with the face like a gargoyle who seems to do great with the younger Asian guys. Her daughter is always with her, and she is built like like a brick s**thouse although with a younger gargoyle face. I wonder if they would do a mother daughter, hmmmm.I tend to agree with you about the better looking girls being more sprinkled around the place, not just on the left side. The "left side lineup at Thermae" reference is mostly a shorthand term of art to descrbe a certain level of youth and looks that for several years had been more often seen on the left side.
As you say, they tend to skew younger on the left side. For many mongers, not just Asian mongers, that will automatically suggest slimmer, firmer, smoother skin, better looking girls. And that is the side where, other than the booths, there are no barstools or other places to sit or stand behind the bar as there are elsewhere where girls can perch, curl up and hide a multitude of physical "problems".
The lineup girls standing on the left side had better feel much more confident about their head-to-toe presentation not only on its own merits but how it measures up compared to other girls standing on either side of them.
I think that speaks volumes about the likelihood of the better looking girls tending to choose that side to advertise their wares. And on that point; how do we know the reason a top Thermae looker on the right side or in the middle of the bar didn't settle into that spot only because there was no room on the left side for her to stand and better categorize, position and display her superior physical qualities?
This beirgarten chick was into BBFS. Her name was Nook. She wanted 1000 baht ST, 1500 LT. I kept her a few days. Then again, this was a few years ago.Ah, she was into BBFS with you. But that means nothing about whether she or any other girl would say Yes to ME upfront in the bar for BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM.
How many years ago was it? If it was within the past 6 years or so, she might very well have been one of the Beer Garden girls who looked me square in the face and said No way, No how will I or any other Thai girl do BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM for you for any amount of money now or ever, Thai girls just don't do those things, you will never find a Thai girl who will do either of those things for you.
If I didn't have such thick skin and a thick head, I might easily take such a reaction to my simple question as somewhat of a buzzkill.
Hey guys,
Am in Bangkok for a few days from this Wednesday and wanted to line up a couple of girls in advance.
Has anyone tried or heard of the following two? Wanted to know if they are same girls as in pic and any reviews?
Cassidy- https://bangkokdreamsgirlescort.com/model/cassidy/.
Phae- can't find link right now but I think she about 35-38 yrs old- looks really hot from pics.
I hand a look at some of the girls from Bangkok dreams website and there are some hot looking girls on there but bit dubious especially after my experience in past with angels Bangkok site.
Open to any recommendations from the Bangkok dreams site!
Thanks.
Houston Player
09-15-19, 06:41
With the utmost respect dude, that constant reference to the better looking girls being on the left side of Thermae is utter malarky.
I was in there last night (way to crowded). Its the same smattering of hotties through out. In fact, the talent has been getting better.
The only thing the left side has (as you are facing the bar) is that they are sometimes overall younger, except for the older one with the face like a gargoyle who seems to do great with the younger Asian guys. Her daughter is always with her, and she is built like like a brick s**thouse although with a younger gargoyle face. I wonder if they would do a mother daughter, hmmmm.Dude no wonder you are confused the left side being referred to is when you are facing away from the bar. It's the left side upon entering.
Dude no wonder you are confused the left side being referred to is when you are facing away from the bar. It's the left side upon entering.I did not take his description the way you did. I guess we need to define "the bar" in Thermae. True, as you enter the Sukhumvit side main entrance down the stairs, the small bar to which you will be directed to buy a drink is indeed behind you at that moment. But I always assumed "the bar" most of us think of in Thermae is that much larger, S-shaped structure in the middle of the room that is directly in front of you as you enter down the stairs from Sukhumvit.
Of course, that big one does not have a bartender stationed behind it to mix or pour drinks. But there are roaming servers to take your order there.
Not sure what else we would call that big S-shaped structure in the middle of the room if not a bar though.
You walk in you are facing.
The bar. The greeter stands in front of the bar. Face him, look left, then right, then get a drink.
Franciscass
09-15-19, 09:54
I did not take his description the way you did. I guess we need to define "the bar" in Thermae. True, as you enter the Sukhumvit side main entrance down the stairs, the small bar to which you will be directed to buy a drink is indeed behind you at that moment. But I always assumed "the bar" most of us think of in Thermae is that much larger, S-shaped structure in the middle of the room that is directly in front of you as you enter down the stairs from Sukhumvit.
Of course, that big one does not have a bartender stationed behind it to mix or pour drinks. But there are roaming servers to take your order there.
Not sure what else we would call that big S-shaped structure in the middle of the room if not a bar though.If I may add my two cents a bar usually refers to an establishment that sells alcoholic drinks. Once inside though if somebody said to me I will meet you at the bar I would then assume it would be at the counter where the drinks are served rather than a seating area where you can order from floor staff.
As an aside with no entry fees or bar fines Thermae depends totally on selling drinks. I have always felt if their bar was in the middle of the room or at least occupied a more accessible prominent position they be more profitable.
This beirgarten chick was into BBFS. Her name was Nook. She wanted 1000 baht ST, 1500 LT. I kept her a few days. Then again, this was a few years ago.She looks great!
Ah, she was into BBFS with you. But that means nothing about whether she or any other girl would say Yes to ME upfront in the bar for BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM.
How many years ago was it? If it was within the past 6 years or so, she might very well have been one of the Beer Garden girls who looked me square in the face and said No way, No how will I or any other Thai girl do BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM for you for any amount of money now or ever, Thai girls just don't do those things, you will never find a Thai girl who will do either of those things for you.
If I didn't have such thick skin and a thick head, I might easily take such a reaction to my simple question as somewhat of a buzzkill.She was only 20 years old, but her English was great. She claimed to be a university student. She was quite cocky in the bar, so I agree that if I had brought up that topic in the bar she would have told me to get lost. But in the room it just happened naturally. As cocky as she was in the bar, she ended up being quite sweet, playful, and fun to hang with.
Has anyone picked up any Arab freelancers? Is it the same as a local freelancer? I would like to check out the Arab area and try to pick up an Arab freelancer when I visit. I am a little worried because of potential religious issues. Is it easy for a non Arab person to pull this off? This will be my first time so if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am not staying at the Grace Hotel, would this be a deal breaker for the Arab ladies?
Has anyone picked up any Arab freelancers? Is it the same as a local freelancer? I would like to check out the Arab area and try to pick up an Arab freelancer when I visit. I am a little worried because of potential religious issues. Is it easy for a non Arab person to pull this off? This will be my first time so if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am not staying at the Grace Hotel, would this be a deal breaker for the Arab ladies?Last time I checked (a year ago) the Arab FLs - (most of them were actually Muslim East Europeans. Kazaks, etc) - none to be found.
Also Grace Hotel and Bamboo bar (oppo Grace htl) - all were dead.
Yes once upon a time lot used to happen in Soi3 - but times change.
Chinatown Guy
09-15-19, 20:25
The lineup girls standing on the left side had better feel much more confident about their head-to-toe presentation not only on its own merits but how it measures up compared to other girls standing on either side of them.
I think that speaks volumes about the likelihood of the better looking girls tending to choose that side to advertise their wares. You make a good point EihTooms. I would call that, "good salesmanship" or is it "showmanship"? I think a few years ago it became the new "we're declaring this the higher quality 'section' and therefore expensive, so only Japanese need apply" side of the room. I believe there is a phenomenon where the Japanese are more likely to buy something if the price tag is high. You know like "if it's expensive, I feel better. " No doubt in my mind that the Japanese deep pockets have all but ruined the Thermae for guys like me. Are the ladies on the left side really more beautiful than the other ladies in the room? It's questionable, but like moths to a light, the Japanese men are sure attracted to the expensive "lineup" (maybe, as you stated, because of their confidence) but I sure can't fault the Thai women for capitalizing on the opportunity to take their inflated Yen. I sure liked the Thermae, years ago, when it was more casual and less Bourgeois. (I even remember the Old Thermae Coffee Shop).
You make a good point EihTooms. I would call that, "good salesmanship" or is it "showmanship"? I think a few years ago it became the new "we're declaring this the higher quality 'section' and therefore expensive, so only Japanese need apply" side of the room. I believe there is a phenomenon where the Japanese are more likely to buy something if the price tag is high. You know like "if it's expensive, I feel better. " No doubt in my mind that the Japanese deep pockets have all but ruined the Thermae for guys like me. Are the ladies on the left side really more beautiful than the other ladies in the room? It's questionable, but like moths to a light, the Japanese men are sure attracted to the expensive "lineup" (maybe, as you stated, because of their confidence) but I sure can't fault the Thai women for capitalizing on the opportunity to take their inflated Yen. I sure liked the Thermae, years ago, when it was more casual and less Bourgeois. (I even remember the Old Thermae Coffee Shop).Yeah Japs think costly is good, and paying more makes them smarter or whatever they are into.
You make a good point EihTooms. I would call that, "good salesmanship" or is it "showmanship"? I think a few years ago it became the new "we're declaring this the higher quality 'section' and therefore expensive, so only Japanese need apply" side of the room. I believe there is a phenomenon where the Japanese are more likely to buy something if the price tag is high. You know like "if it's expensive, I feel better. " No doubt in my mind that the Japanese deep pockets have all but ruined the Thermae for guys like me. Are the ladies on the left side really more beautiful than the other ladies in the room? It's questionable, but like moths to a light, the Japanese men are sure attracted to the expensive "lineup" (maybe, as you stated, because of their confidence) but I sure can't fault the Thai women for capitalizing on the opportunity to take their inflated Yen. I sure liked the Thermae, years ago, when it was more casual and less Bourgeois. (I even remember the Old Thermae Coffee Shop).[Deleted by Admin] But you are right, the Japanese (now its more Korean) have more money that you. I bet you are jealous.
On their message Board, I am sure that they are complaining about the white dudes in the Thermae. After all, as obnoxious as the Chinese punters are in there to the far more polite and sophisticated Japanese (its easy to tell who is Japanese in their if you don't speak the language, they are the ones who say sorry in English when they bump into you), it pales in comparison to the sight / smell of some fat farang yobbo in a wife beater with sweat rolling off his jiggling flesh. Yeah, if I was a 45 kg cutie Thai girl, ID sure dress up in the hope of getting some 70 kilo Asian guy to bounce up and down on me instead of the lumpy gross farang hunks of blubber that frequent there.
Keep further in mind that while all Thais learn English, and even communicate with Koreans and Japanese in English, broken as it may be, your western culture is foreign to them except as generally filtered through Japan and Korea and modified therein.
Has anyone picked up any Arab freelancers? Is it the same as a local freelancer? I would like to check out the Arab area and try to pick up an Arab freelancer when I visit. I am a little worried because of potential religious issues. Is it easy for a non Arab person to pull this off? This will be my first time so if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am not staying at the Grace Hotel, would this be a deal breaker for the Arab ladies?Yes, You can. Last month I pick up from there. No issue with Hotels. Enjoy.
Was just walking into Soi 23 and this tallish girl with red mini skirt / dress turns into Soi from Soi 23. Tallish and obviously a ladyboy, as face looks slightly weird. As she busles along I watch the walking gait from behind. Then I think, while she is in a hurry, I can't obviously pick that as a ladyboy walk, when normally a ladyboy walk is quite obviously not female. Can any ladyboys have a better walk?
She turns and walks straight into Baccara. Ha ha. I was fooled. Pegged as a LB, but perhaps one of the many girls with surgeries trying to look like a Ladyboy. Japanese guys often go for this look. Sometimes I say the Jap guy selected the ugliest girl in the room for my taste in terms of too many surgeries and looking like a Tranny or an alien (take your pick).
Yeh I am willing to admit that most LBs are obvious, but I am not always certain.
Went into 5 Star very early. Did not intend to BF, but just wanted to see if they had any decent looking nude girls. I turned out that 3 girls were slim enough, tits and ass okay, and face pretty enough for me to be doable, and few other ugly ones. However 3 is more than I ever saw before there of a reasonable standard. One had the see section belly scar covered by a tattoo but her ass was very shapely. Could have been 30 to 35. None of them could be called stunning. 2 of them maybe a 7 out of 10.
I called over Awn (On). Turned out to be a 21 YO Buriram girl, yet quite white skin. Cute nose (not broad). No stretch marks anywhere but slightly saggy tits suggested she had a baby already. Nice teeth no braces, a large back tattoo. I later learned this was her very first day in the bar, she had never fucked a Farang in her life, had never done a BJ in her life, Ha ha, yet she danced nude quite un-shyly with very nice looking pussy on display. Previously was a construction worker. Was not shy to grab my cock and massage it, and allowed a bit of groping and kissing, sitting with me still total naked. Her kissing was a low standard, not too unexpected. So she did not resist anything. Her mouth was "Pet" (Thai word for Chili hot). Ha ha. A BJ would be painful I think. She admitted to just having eaten noodles with chilis. I really prefer to get an experienced girl. I guess she had nearly no English, did not try. Maybe I will chat up the other two candidate girls next time.
Assessment was she was compliant and not scared of dick, but could not expect a wild skilled fuck. BF 1 K and ST prices would be too high for this girl, even has pretty face. Better off getting a more reasonable skilled girl in an MP I think. Should have a look in some MPS to see if can find any girls equal for body and face, or go back to my regulars. A bargirl could cost you 5K these days in some bars once you include drinks, Bf etc. and maybe even ST Hotel. With exchange rates going bad, that is quite high. Now could get an escort for 5K or less on Smoochi. I think I might have to try that, if can get past the risk of bad surgeries, CBJ, face not my spec, etc.
Yet its not many years since I used to take 3somes from Suzie Wong regularly. Ha ha. I have started to get much more conservative in mongering really. Like to have good value stunners, or as close to that as possible. Don't like to just waste money completely on poor encounters. Hance regular girls are the best bet.
Has anyone picked up any Arab freelancers? Is it the same as a local freelancer? I would like to check out the Arab area and try to pick up an Arab freelancer when I visit. I am a little worried because of potential religious issues. Is it easy for a non Arab person to pull this off? This will be my first time so if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am not staying at the Grace Hotel, would this be a deal breaker for the Arab ladies?Is there some desire to tick off having tried girls from every country, like notches on the belt?
Can I ask why you want Arab girls? Does it really matter where they come from, especially if you have religious concerns. I am into beauty and great body myself, regardless of origin. Skin colour and hair colour don't matter to me a lot. I have done a few "muslim" women myself (e. G. Turkish, etc. , not many) however clearly they cannot be strict muslims, if working as hookers. I don't care, if they are hot. I have partied with muslims in south of Thailand and one of the girls admitted to having two BFs. They can party like western people if not at their own home. Ha ha. Have seen muslim girls with head gear yet wearing short shorts almost hot pants on a motorcycle. Baffling customs. Thankfully not so extreme customs in Songkhla province, Hat Yai, etc. Best to stay away from the southern most 3 provinces, Yala, Pattani, and Narrathiwat. Even the Songkhla muslims are scared to go further south.
Was just walking into Soi 23 and this tallish girl with red mini skirt / dress turns into Soi from Soi 23. Tallish and obviously a ladyboy, as face looks slightly weird. As she busles along I watch the walking gait from behind. Then I think, while she is in a hurry, I can't obviously pick that as a ladyboy walk, when normally a ladyboy walk is quite obviously not female. Can any ladyboys have a better walk?
She turns and walks straight into Baccara. Ha ha. I was fooled. Pegged as a LB, but perhaps one of the many girls with surgeries trying to look like a Ladyboy. Japanese guys often go for this look. Sometimes I say the Jap guy selected the ugliest girl in the room for my taste in terms of too many surgeries and looking like a Tranny or an alien (take your pick).
Yeh I am willing to admit that most LBs are obvious, but I am not always certain.You sound like my buddy named Ricky. He often thinks many real girls are lady boys when they are not. Then he has sex with an actual known lady boy and refuses to believe it was a lady boy. It's happened to him more than once.
Walking around. Looked in Mango. Recog ised Prae and Aem. Don't know if any of the Web site girls that looked possibles were there. Nothing special looking. Moved on. Club 102 line up was best I have seen. 2 girls possible. Decided the one smiling at me did not have figure hot enough. The best looker did not look at me all. Perhaps waiting for a Jap customer. Moved on. Lineup in Addict being offered to Farang was sparse. All had nose jobs or tit jobs or both.
Next looked in Soi24/1. Boss had a skinny girl but perhaps too skinny. No tits no curves.
Snow White. One or two girls appealed slightly. Best line up I have seen there for years allowing for infrequent visits and skinny girls being busy.
Biwtee (beauty) had too much padding to be my spec really but I liked her mischievous smiling face and no surgeries.
Decided to try. First time in Sw for years. I used to do June regular and last girl was probably Emmy when she first started or maybe I forgot someone.
She said 5 months but her English was real poor so actually only 5 days at Snow White. She was a bit shy about some things. 20 YO no baby. Hardly has skills as yet. BBBJ scores just a 6 even though she can do slow and soft. She got horny from DATY and then wanted to get off in cowgirl position.
Doggy did not last very long. Possible dick is hitting uterus in some girls. She was happy to do CIM, not easy for so so BJ, but not CIP. I could CIM once in right position which is not lying on back.
Overall I was quite satisfied we had reasonable fun, given lack of experience.
No clue if she would try anal. My dick wasn't that hard at the beginning but improved once it got the nice feel of her pussy. So worked out. When first put finger in her pussy hole seemed very tight but girls can stretch fortunately.
Did not ask about the gossip given she is so new. Hails from Nakhorn Phanom, what a surprise. Ha ha
Sorry posted last report from phone in wrong thread. I think I recall now underwhelmed with previous SW girl who was a girl with Bolt Ons but she did not give a very good GFE. Others had reported a good time or a porn star with her. Struggling to recall the name any more, and certainly had no thoughts of repeating her. I rarely ever benefit from girls that others recommended. Must be my taste is different, mostly.
I have done some popular girls, but always based on my own selection I think: e.g. Yok, Aor (Annies), Cherry (Mango). I had not read any recommendations for them earlier as far as I can recall. Only recommendations for the shop. All 3 had quite sexy bodies, and faces at least O.K. So automatic selections upon meeting them.
MickeyDuck1208
09-16-19, 16:20
Jakarta is a better bet for Muslim FL. I have one post there about a girl in hijab I had last year.
Not a valid topic for this forum.
Has anyone picked up any Arab freelancers? Is it the same as a local freelancer? I would like to check out the Arab area and try to pick up an Arab freelancer when I visit. I am a little worried because of potential religious issues. Is it easy for a non Arab person to pull this off? This will be my first time so if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am not staying at the Grace Hotel, would this be a deal breaker for the Arab ladies?
Jakarta is a better bet for Muslim FL. I have one post there about a girl in hijab I had last year.Yes, for Indonesian Muslims, but not for Arabic women. Bangkok is a much better alternative for Arabic women.
Chinatown Guy
09-16-19, 22:52
You are right, the Japanese (now its more Korean) have more money that you. I bet you are jealous.
On their message Board, I am sure that they are complaining about the white dudes in the Thermae. it pales in comparison to the sight / smell of some fat farang yobbo in a wife beater with sweat rolling off his jiggling flesh. Yeah, if I was a 45 kg cutie Thai girl, ID sure dress up in the hope of getting some 70 kilo Asian guy to bounce up and down on me instead of the lumpy gross farang hunks of blubber that frequent there.Actually, I was just saying I was sorry that the Thermae ladies are 100%-500% more expensive than in my past memories. I found it so odd, that with such an innocuous statement as that, (even on this sex site) that someone (a senior member no less) would feel the compulsion to jump on this thread and insult a total stranger using racial slurs. You call me "jealous" because I was complaining that the prices had become inflated by the Japanese? Really?? You need to humble yourself bro. You sound more like a newbie who thinks he knows it all!
What's ironic is that I've found un-self-aware people like you call others exactly what they themselves are. I respect others, including the Japanese men, but wouldn't trade places with anyone!
And your dihedra about western culture and fat, sweat-dripping, wife-beaters? I've got to believe you must really be something special!
Is there some desire to tick off having tried girls from every country, like notches on the belt?
Can I ask why you want Arab girls? Does it really matter where they come from, especially if you have religious concerns. I am into beauty and great body myself, regardless of origin. Skin colour and hair colour don't matter to me a lot. I have done a few "muslim" women myself (e. G. Turkish, etc. , not many) however clearly they cannot be strict muslims, if working as hookers. I don't care, if they are hot. I have partied with muslims in south of Thailand and one of the girls admitted to having two BFs. They can party like western people if not at their own home. Ha ha. Have seen muslim girls with head gear yet wearing short shorts almost hot pants on a motorcycle. Baffling customs. Thankfully not so extreme customs in Songkhla province, Hat Yai, etc. Best to stay away from the southern most 3 provinces, Yala, Pattani, and Narrathiwat. Even the Songkhla muslims are scared to go further south.I would just like to hookup with a few arab women LOL. When I said I was concerned about religious issues, I was more worried about it because I do not fully understand their religion and I do not want to offend any of them with my hornyness. I am going to be in Bangkok for a short time and I do not travel much so this is my opportunity to knock things off of the bucket list.
Yes, for Indonesian Muslims, but not for Arabic women. Bangkok is a much better alternative for Arabic women.Any tips for a first timer? I am coming during the week so I will not get to spend any Friday or Saturday nights in Bangkok.
Syzgies: Check your private mail.
It has been a long time since I was fooled and scammed so blatantly. Maybe never since I moved here several years ago. She didn't get away with the full scam. But she sure tried mightily.
She says her name is Nom (rhymes with "Tom") in Butterflies Go-Go Bar, top level of Nana Plaza, long blonde hair (yeah, could have been a tip off I suppose), slim, good, well-proportioned body except for very small tits. Has a tramp stamp tattoo above her butt. Last night she was sporting a temporary dot tattoo at the top of each facial cheekbone. A bit aggressive in that she will take liberties to approach and stand at your seat until you can't help but take notice and then she sits on your lap. Not too unusual for many go-go girls, though. Then the grinding on your lap begins. Not all that sexy for me, but I was intrigued enough to buy her a Lady Drink.
She will probably say Yes to whatever you propose after she brings up "barfine?" That's because her scam is, once in the room and showered, to find something, anything, to cite as the cause of her "jep pussy!" (painful pussy) at the beginning of the session, clam up, do nothing, say she must leave and then still demand the full agreed upon payment. Here is the flaw in her scam; as smooth and fairly convincing as the first part of her "act" is in the bar, the last part when she starts complaining about "jep!" is clumsy and poorly performed. I had only engaged in soft, mild DATY! LOL. I assume if I had even so much as begun to enter her she would have squealed and groaned about how big I am and that I must stop because "jep!" But we never even got to that.
So she clammed up, would not just relax and cuddle to make the "jep!" pussy feel ok after what was about 5 minutes of soft, mild DATY and indicated that she must leave now. Ok, honey. No problem. Up to you. But I will only give you 1,000 baht for what we did. Yeah, I am an overly generous scam victim sometimes. Too willing to allow the slightest doubt that maybe I got it wrong, misunderstood or that she misunderstood. Even this time where there was no doubt by the time she got fully dressed again. That is when she gets stern and demanding, no longer interested in pretending her pussy is "jep!" Of course, there was never a sign or indication of her pussy being "jep!" I mean in the way she stood up, walked to and from the bathroom, got dressed and so on.
"NO! You pay me 2,500!"
For what we did? No. I know you are only pretending, no "jep".
"NO! You pay me 2,500!"
(I move in very close to her face and deliver the firmest, level voiced) NO. You are a trickster. I know you are only pretending. "Jep mai? MAI." (Pain? No). She angrily picks up her phone from the desk and, I don't know, pretends to dial a number or something. Then puts the phone in her purse.
I walked her outside and bid her farewell.
Anyway, be warned. I don't know her badge number, but she said her name is Nom (rhymes with "Tom"). IMO, don't even waste your money on a Lady Drink with that one.
I really did not feel like marching back to Butterflies to tell any and all mamasans they've got a slim, blonde scammer on their hands late last night. But I will the next time I am free to go there in the evening. Unfortunately (or fortunately, I suppose. LOL), today and tomorrow is my time with a regular non pro GF, all day and night until Thursday morning, so I will not have the opportunity to swing into Butterflies to lodge my complaint and warning. But I assure you I will as soon as possible. Before the end of this week.
So she clammed up, would not just relax and cuddle to make the "jep!" pussy feel ok after what was about 5 minutes of soft, mild DATY and indicated that she must leave now. Ok, honey. No problem. Up to you. But I will only give you 1,000 baht for what we did. Yeah, I am an overly generous scam victim sometimes. That is when she gets stern and demanding, no longer interested in pretending her pussy is "jep!" Of course, there was never a sign or indication of her pussy being "jep!" I mean in the way she stood up, walked to and from the bathroom, got dressed and so on.
"NO! You pay me 2,500!"
For what we did? No. I know you are only pretending, no "jep".
"NO! You pay me 2,500!"
(I move in very close to her face and deliver the firmest, level voiced) NO.That sounds very similar to an incident I had with a girl from Bangkok Bunnies a couple of years ago. I posted about it on the forum and Syzygies seemed to think I would not be accepted in that bar anymore since I didn't give the girl the amount of money she wanted even though she didn't deliver her end of the bargain. However, that was far from the case. I was well accepted in that bar again and that very same girl tried valiantly to get me to take her so she could redeem herself, but I didn't want to waste my time. Kudos to you for sticking to your guns, but I do think you overpaid her a bit for what she delivered. It seems 500 baht would have been more than fair.
Ass Addict
09-17-19, 07:22
I would just like to hookup with a few arab women LOL. When I said I was concerned about religious issues, I was more worried about it because I do not fully understand their religion and I do not want to offend any of them with my hornyness. I am going to be in Bangkok for a short time and I do not travel much so this is my opportunity to knock things off of the bucket list.Don't try to understand their religion.
If she is selling her pussy (or ass), just act with her as you would do with any other working girl regardless of where she comes from or what she thinks.
Don't try to understand anything about her unless you want to date her.
It has been a long time since I was fooled and scammed so blatantly. Maybe never since I moved here several years ago. She didn't get away with the full scam. But she sure tried mightily.
She says her name is Nom (rhymes with "Tom") in Butterflies Go-Go Bar, top level of Nana Plaza, long blonde hair (yeah, could have been a tip off I suppose), slim, good, well-proportioned body except for very small tits. Has a tramp stamp tattoo above her butt. Last night she was sporting a temporary dot tattoo at the top of each facial cheekbone. A bit aggressive in that she will take liberties to approach and stand at your seat until you can't help but take notice and then she sits on your lap. Not too unusual for many go-go girls, though. Then the grinding on your lap begins. Not all that sexy for me, but I was intrigued enough to buy her a Lady Drink.
She will probably say Yes to whatever you propose after she brings up "barfine?" That's because her scam is, once in the room and showered, to find something, anything, to cite as the cause of her "jep pussy!" (painful pussy) at the beginning of the session, clam up, do nothing, say she must leave and then still demand the full agreed upon payment. Here is the flaw in her scam; as smooth and fairly convincing as the first part of her "act" is in the bar, the last part when she starts complaining about "jep!" is clumsy and poorly performed. I had only engaged in soft, mild DATY! LOL. I assume if I had even so much as begun to enter her she would have squealed and groaned about how big I am and that I must stop because "jep!" But we never even got to that.
So she clammed up, would not just relax and cuddle to make the "jep!" pussy feel ok after what was about 5 minutes of soft, mild DATY and indicated that she must leave now. Ok, honey. No problem. Up to you. But I will only give you 1,000 baht for what we did. Yeah, I am an overly generous scam victim sometimes. Too willing to allow the slightest doubt that maybe I got it wrong, misunderstood or that she misunderstood. Even this time where there was no doubt by the time she got fully dressed again. That is when she gets stern and demanding, no longer interested in pretending her pussy is "jep!" Of course, there was never a sign or indication of her pussy being "jep!" I mean in the way she stood up, walked to and from the bathroom, got dressed and so on.
"NO! You pay me 2,500!"
For what we did? No. I know you are only pretending, no "jep".
"NO! You pay me 2,500!"
(I move in very close to her face and deliver the firmest, level voiced) NO. You are a trickster. I know you are only pretending. "Jep mai? MAI." (Pain? No). She angrily picks up her phone from the desk and, I don't know, pretends to dial a number or something. Then puts the phone in her purse.
I walked her outside and bid her farewell.
Anyway, be warned. I don't know her badge number, but she said her name is Nom (rhymes with "Tom"). IMO, don't even waste your money on a Lady Drink with that one.
I really did not feel like marching back to Butterflies to tell any and all mamasans they've got a slim, blonde scammer on their hands late last night. But I will the next time I am free to go there in the evening. Unfortunately (or fortunately, I suppose. LOL), today and tomorrow is my time with a regular non pro GF, all day and night until Thursday morning, so I will not have the opportunity to swing into Butterflies to lodge my complaint and warning. But I assure you I will as soon as possible. Before the end of this week.Ha ha. Very amusing, at least for the readers.
Personally I don't respond to overly aggressive girls, it is a very bad sign for possible scammers or shit performers, however overly timid girls can be just as irritating.
Nom means "milks" or "tits" so even the name is a bit suspect, especially if she does not have much tits. Ha ha.
In the end, shit like this can happen to anyone, sometime. Here lies the critical lesson of why we don't pay in full in advance. I'll bet the mamasans know she is a scam artist and take kickbacks too.
I had the girl from Rainbow 2 that got to my apartment after much mucking around and refused to take her pants off due to period. She had tried to get me to show my dick first, perhaps because she wanted to try to do a BJ and claim payment for that, but fortunately I refused to take my pants off before her.
So nothing happened and she got zero. Your scammer was smarter, yet possible her pussy hurts could even be true from a previous customer (faintly possible).
Certainly cannot be paid more than what you deem fair though.
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...............to cite as the cause of her "jep pussy!" (painful pussy).....................Jep pussy leads to jep wallet.
Don't try to understand their religion.
If she is selling her pussy (or ass), just act with her as you would do with any other working girl regardless of where she comes from or what she thinks.
Don't try to understand anything about her unless you want to date her.So what is a typical conversation you have with a girl you are trying to pick up for the night but not date?
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Kudos to you for sticking to your guns, but I do think you overpaid her a bit for what she delivered. It seems 500 baht would have been more than fair.I agree. 500 baht would have been it if not for an unforced error on my part. When we were laying in bed after the DATY, at a time when she was a bit more convincing about this mysterious sudden onset of "jep" pussy and there was still a tiny possibility in my mind that I had done something to cause it, her acting level was at least sufficient to make it seem she was genuinely sorry for the moment to be spoiled by her condition. That is when I told her I would give her 1000 baht anyway.
It wasn't until she hopped up, happy as a lark, no more furrowed brow, no more rubbing her crotch to soothe the non existent pain, no problem washing, toweling off, climbing back into her undies and pants without a care in the world about possibly adding pain to her pussy that I was 100% certain she was only pretending.
But by then I had already told her I would give her 1000 baht. I stick to what I say in those cases just as I negotiate in the bar when I say I will give a girl X amount of money "IF" we do this or that. I never say I will pay an amount merely "For Short Time" or whatever.
And I didn't have the Thai vocabulary at hand to argue about why I was now changing from the 1000 baht I had just told her I would give her to the 500 baht that would have been better but still more than an obvious scammer should get.
Her growing angry performance on the point that I really was supposed to give her 2,500 instead of the 1000, acting dumb or confused about what I had just told her I would give her was just her final bid to intimidate customers into handing her whatever is necessary to calm her down and not make a scene in a hotel or apartment.
Which is why I moved very close to her face, almost nose to nose and delivered my firm and unyeilding "NO". Not shouting. But as firm, forceful, confident, unintimidated and no nonsense as I can make it to show her any further acting up about this will not be tolerated and, more importantly, will not work.
She was as quiet as a church mouse after that. Took the 1000 off the desk and left without incident.
Jep pussy leads to jep wallet.LOL. Yes. Of course, "jep" pussy COULD lead to at least an ok BBBJ+CIM. But in that particular case, her mood was so low from her pretend pain, then she revealed how much of a scammer she was, I knew she would only give a lousy one, so lousy I would have aborted that mission and then she would have had her "attempt" to deliver something more in her argument for why I should pay her the full amount.
I did not even bother to bring that option up and she sure as hell didn't offer it.
Jep pussy leads to jep wallet.Or gonorrhea.
Or gonorrhea.How does that effect DATY?
MutantChicken
09-18-19, 15:48
How does that effect DATY?Oral gonorrhea.
https://www.medicinenet.com/oral_gonorrhea_symptoms/views.htm
Oral gonorrhea.
https://www.medicinenet.com/oral_gonorrhea_symptoms/views.htm"On the darker side of this oral infection, is the rare instance in an immunocompromised individual when the person could develop systemic (throughout the body) spread of the disease..... Gonorrhoeae is not a lonely pathogen. The bacteria frequently are associated with two other organisms, Treponema pallidum (that causes syphilis) and chlamydia trachomatis (that causes chlamydia infections). Most doctors treat the patient with antibiotics that will kill and. Gonorrhoeae, but also will kill these other two STD organisms (Treponema, the cause of syphilis and chlamydia) at the same time. Consequently, it is possible (but infrequent) to get infected with all three from one sexual encounter; more often only two are transferred, but doctors rarely know which two, so they treat for all three STD infections. ".
This bring us to the use of dental dams which is currently being discussed in the safe sex section.
For a first timer you will be amazed at the quality of girls BKK has on offer. There is wide variety ranging from many nationalities. Sukhumvit and Nana areas have most night clubs and bars and the night life is not to be missed. There are loads of gogo bars in the vicinity. Try visiting a nuru massage if you haven't experienced it. Doki Doki is a wonderful place.
I hope this helps. Have a great holiday and share your experience.
Any tips for a first timer? I am coming during the week so I will not get to spend any Friday or Saturday nights in Bangkok.
Chinatown Guy
09-19-19, 03:10
Any tips for a first timer? I am coming during the week so I will not get to spend any Friday or Saturday nights in Bangkok.Sri5657's suggestions are all great ones. Two strip club areas you may want to check out are Nana and Soi Cowboy. All of those amazing women will make you hungry eventually! I might suggest the food courts during the day in the MBK and Terminal 21 shopping malls. They offer a fantastic variety of food for you to try. Don't forget to have the "durian and sticky rice" for desert! LOL (Some love it (like me) then, there are the others). You can take a taxi or the sky train (whatever is more comfortable for you) to any of these places. For a first timer, I'd probably recommend a taxi. They're cheap and easy! Or jump on a motorbike taxi. They're the quickest.
If you had time, I would suggest taking a taxi or sky train to the river that runs through Bangkok, The Chao Phraya, where you can jump on a water taxi and see an amazing "side" of Bangkok. I call the water taxi, the "poor man's river tour. " Beautiful during the day or night.
Obviously, there is way too much to see and do in just one week. You might as well just start planning your second trip! LOL Have fun!
HumanBeing1
09-19-19, 03:16
For a first timer you will be amazed at the quality of girls BKK has on offer. There is wide variety ranging from many nationalities. Sukhumvit and Nana areas have most night clubs and bars and the night life is not to be missed. There are loads of gogo bars in the vicinity. Try visiting a nuru massage if you haven't experienced it. Doki Doki is a wonderful place.
I hope this helps. Have a great holiday and share your experience.Hello. I am also making my first trip to Thailand soon (will also be in Cambodia). Probably a few days in Bangkok and a few days in Pattaya. Any tips before we buy our airbnbs? Are weekdays good too? Will it be easy enough to find good places with ladies or is it good to have a plan of which places to go?
I've only mongered in Europe and South America thus far. Looking forward to this. Primary purpose is tourism but we party and monger nearly every day as well.
For a first timer you will be amazed at the quality of girls BKK has on offer. There is wide variety ranging from many nationalities. Sukhumvit and Nana areas have most night clubs and bars and the night life is not to be missed. There are loads of gogo bars in the vicinity. Try visiting a nuru massage if you haven't experienced it. Doki Doki is a wonderful place.
I hope this helps. Have a great holiday and share your experience.I have been told about Doki Doki and Mitu Massage. Which one is better?
Hello. I am also making my first trip to Thailand soon (will also be in Cambodia). Probably a few days in Bangkok and a few days in Pattaya. Any tips before we buy our airbnbs? Are weekdays good too? Will it be easy enough to find good places with ladies or is it good to have a plan of which places to go?
I've only mongered in Europe and South America thus far. Looking forward to this. Primary purpose is tourism but we party and monger nearly every day as well."we party" is not something that most guys would write, so I make some assumptions.
As this is the Bangkok thread, I will refer to Bangkok. The Massage Parlour thread names some popular Massage parlours to go to for sex. So read the forum a lot. The Bangkok Thread mentions bars like in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, etc. , also Street walkers on Sukhumvit Soi 4, probably some discos.
You can use Google Maps to find where these places are located. Best to stay in Hotels not too far away.
Billboard in Nana Plaza is okay With groups of Indians partying together (I mention Indians since they like to party in groups more than most nationalities), but not all bars like it and other customers don't even like it that much, so some may turn away such a group.
I don't think AirBNB is necessarily a good idea. Could be Unreliable. There are cheap Hotels and cheap Apartments available on Hotel booking sites.
If you have several guys staying in a room, girls will probably not want to go there. Most guys have a room for just themselves. You can take girls to Short Time Hotels for sex near to where they work, where pay maybe 350 Baht for 1 hour.
I think is good to make a list of places you would like to check out, but stay flexible to change your plans, once you find out what you really like and what you don't like.
For a first timer you will be amazed at the quality of girls BKK has on offer. As a many timer I am amazed by the lack of quality of girls BKK has on offer.
As a many timer I am amazed by the lack of quality of girls BKK has on offer.As a 20 year resident, I'm shocked at the lack of quality among p4 p gals in Bangkok.
As a 20 year resident, I'm shocked at the lack of quality among p4 p gals in Bangkok.Yeh I think 20 to 30 years ago, it was expected that hookers (bargirls and Soapy girls was my main experience) would be a cut well above the girls on the street on average, for looks. Nowadays, huge numbers of very plain hookers are getting tit jobs and nose jobs and imagining they suddenly became pretty. For me, quite the reverse is often the case.
So walking around Terminal 21 in middle of the day yesterday, I was struck by how many good looking girls I saw, thinking the general hooker standard is somewhat below these days.
Still there are many guys that equate a young girl with a good body and no baby as automatically beautiful. That is not enough for me.
On other hand I have looked at photos of girls I did many years ago and they were not as good looking as my modern day regulars, in general. I did not really have regular stunners back then. Just very acceptable looking girls better than what I had been used to back home. Our tastes change and we get more fussy. So good lookers can be found still. It just gets harder and we are less easy to please.
Pretty girls hardly have to work in an Oily MP these days. They have more choices. They could easily be doing Japanese in Thaniya for a start, of in Japanese clubs.
More and more I feel the dregs are getting left over for the old Farangs.
My best bet is a pretty country girl with a baby and no husband, low education, absolutely in poverty, zero English, because I might be the best she can get. I am then not facing big competition for her, since my Thai is good. Since I want hookers for sex and not for high powered conversation, that is fine.
If a girl comes with too many good aspects and prospects, I have little chance I think.
girl with a good body and no baby Even that would be a refreshing change; maybe one in a thousand in farang bars and massage parlors in Bangkok today.
Still there are many guys that equate a young girl with a good body and no baby as automatically beautiful. That is not enough for me.Which of these girls do you prefer?
My friend told me her bar has closed, Rumours bar in Queens Park plaza, Soi 20. All the bars have closed or are closing, the area will be redeveloped.
Even that would be a refreshing change; maybe one in a thousand in farang bars and massage parlors in Bangkok today.You quoted me out of context, and actually I have no clue what point you are trying to make at all. What at one in a thousand bars?
Certainly many bar girls exist with a great body and even no baby. Does not automatically make them "beautiful". Can have very plain face. Then getting a nose job and a tit job does not help much either.
BlueBudgie
09-19-19, 19:02
Searching and reading it looks like lots of people have success taking girls in to JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) it looks like they have no problem.
Does anyone know if Marriott properties are officially guest friendly or they are sneaking girls in? Are all Marriott properties the same way? I have a 7 night Marriott certificate I'd like to use towards some pussayyy.
Ha ha, sure as hell not the third from the left!
Which of these girls do you prefer?
Which of these girls do you prefer?Ha ha, I remember No. 3 She used to be pretty. However I could not take her any more with a face like an old man. So nice faces for me are No. 4 and 6 (No. 2 maybe. Would have to see from another angle). Look like natural except No. 4 has bolt ONS by the look.
I would take No. 6 even with almost no tits. I prefer the natural cute look. Maybe No. 4 despite the bolt-ons. You can see it the face that matters first to me. Yesterday I considered an overweight girl since I liked her face a lot. However there was a model alternative. I don't like the look of cellulite ass and thighs though, nor super saggy, nor railway tracks stomach. All girls have a fault somewhere, just don't want too many.
Member #4698
09-20-19, 04:16
So nice faces for me are No. 4 and 6. I would take No. 6 even with almost no tits. I prefer the natural cute look. Maybe No. 4 despite the bolt-ons. Another example of when great minds think alike! No. 6 would be my 1st choice. I think small, natural, tits are sexy. 555. And No. 6 has a pretty face. No. 4 is hot, yes, but her silly cones would turn me off in bed a little bit. Maybe it is just a padded push up bra? I have seen Thai girls stuff a virtual pillow into their bras. No. 2 comes in a distant 3rd. I would pass on the rest including No. 3
Which of these girls do you prefer?The one in the pink and the one to her right are ok. They are acceptable. I like gals with a bit more muscle tone. All look "skinny fat."
Yeh I think 20 to 30 years ago, it was expected that hookers (bargirls and Soapy girls was my main experience) would be a cut well above the girls on the street on average, for looks. Nowadays, huge numbers of very plain hookers are getting tit jobs and nose jobs and imagining they suddenly became pretty. For me, quite the reverse is often the case.
So walking around Terminal 21 in middle of the day yesterday, I was struck by how many good looking girls I saw, thinking the general hooker standard is somewhat below these days.
Still there are many guys that equate a young girl with a good body and no baby as automatically beautiful. That is not enough for me.
On other hand I have looked at photos of girls I did many years ago and they were not as good looking as my modern day regulars, in general. I did not really have regular stunners back then. Just very acceptable looking girls better than what I had been used to back home. Our tastes change and we get more fussy. So good lookers can be found still. It just gets harder and we are less easy to please.
Pretty girls hardly have to work in an Oily MP these days. They have more choices. They could easily be doing Japanese in Thaniya for a start, of in Japanese clubs.
More and more I feel the dregs are getting left over for the old Farangs.
My best bet is a pretty country girl with a baby and no husband, low education, absolutely in poverty, zero English, because I might be the best she can get. I am then not facing big competition for her, since my Thai is good. Since I want hookers for sex and not for high powered conversation, that is fine.
If a girl comes with too many good aspects and prospects, I have little chance I think.Could not agree more. When I go to a mall I see a lot of very attractive Thai gals. Also in the area I live in. I'm a bit out on the blue line. There are many amazing looking Chinese and Korean tourist gals that put all the local gals to shame as well. The working girls that are available to non-Thai men are not that desirable. On sites like FinFin there are lots of really amazing looking gals, but it is directed towards Thais and most gals have long sets of rules. Gone are the days when you could go into Thermae the last week of the month and pull a great looking office gal looking to supplement her income.
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I really did not feel like marching back to Butterflies to tell any and all mamasans they've got a slim, blonde scammer on their hands late last night. But I will the next time I am free to go there in the evening. Unfortunately (or fortunately, I suppose. LOL), today and tomorrow is my time with a regular non pro GF, all day and night until Thursday morning, so I will not have the opportunity to swing into Butterflies to lodge my complaint and warning. But I assure you I will as soon as possible. Before the end of this week.Following up on my earlier report. I went to Butterflies last night about 11:30PM, sat, ordered a drink and looked around for my slim blonde scammer. There she was grinding away on the lap of a farang sitting on a stool at the first bar to the right of the bathtub as you enter. I asked my drink server to send a mamasan to me. Mamasan Lek, who I had seen before but never met, the 40ish year old chubby one with dark brown shoulder length hair came over. I don't if she recognized me as being a rather frequent customer of the bar, having taken several girls from there over the past 2-3 years.
I introduced myself and asked her name. She stood next to my chair, leaned over while I explained I liked her bar very much, came there to take ladies often, so I wanted her to know the last girl I took from there a couple of nights earlier was a trickster. I told her about the girl saying Yes in the bar but in the room pretended to have a "jep" pussy even though we had done nothing but me kissing and licking her pussy for a few minutes. She hadn't even touched me (pointing to my crotch), we did not boom boom at all. And that she got angry and demanded I give her the full amount for ST. That I refused but still gave her 1,000 baht. "Oh, I am so sorry that happened. Which girl was it?" she opened her small writing tablet and held a pen, asked what the girl's badge number was. I told her I did not know her number but she is the blonde girl over there with a customer. Her name is Nom.
I further explained I just wanted her to know about it in case there have been other complaints about her. Maybe I am the 4th one to complain. Maybe I am the only one to complain. I understand these things can happen.
Lek was very receptive and appreciative that I took the time to tell her about this. She said it is important for her to know about these things. I said, great, now please let me buy you a drink. "Oh, thank you so much, but that is not necessary. It is my job to know about this", she said. Quick hug and hand shake initiated by her.
I then watched Lek walk over to the blonde girl, say something to her, gesture in my direction and off the two of them went to the back room area, presumably to hear her side of the story. Sure, there is almost zero chance that girl is going to corroborate my version of the story. However, I would imagine these mamasans have heard girls tell their version of these stories many times and probably have a pretty good sense for "tells" flying all over the place giving away that the girl is just making shit up and when she is telling it straight. In fact, just being a Thai female herself is likely qualification enough to know how a Thai girl sounds when she is lying vs telling the truth. lol. IMO, the important thing is to let the girls know sometimes the customers care enough to complain when they pull scams, that a mamasan will be told about it and that mamasan will probably say something to her about it, put her on notice.
All in all, I was impressed by the way my complaint was heard, accepted and responded to by mamasan Lek in Butterflies go-go bar.
A few minutes later, the blonde girl came back into the main bar area, returned to her place on the lap of the farang and seemed to continue on without a hitch. Except for this, which I noticed by glancing over in that direction every now and then; her grinding seemed a lot less enthusiastic. And, although I would have bet money that guy was on the verge of being convinced to pay her barfine and take her before the mamasan took her aside to have a chat with her, the girl's demeanor was dampened enough now for the idea to have apparently left him. After a few minutes, he paid his bill and left, not having barfined and taken her. He would not have heard anything about the conversation that transpired between me and the mamasan and the mamasan and the girl. But in my mind the girl knew she'd better not scam anyone else on this night of all nights and risk a repeat complaint. So she tamped down her enthusiasm and good vibes with that guy just enough for him to lose interest in taking her. Maybe. I remained in the bar for another hour or more and I did not see her approach or lobby to be called down by another other customer the whole time. And the place was packed at that hour.
Meanwhile, within a couple of minutes a very young looking and behaving girl with a cute enough face and a very sweet, bouncy, athletic young body, a true spinner in the best way, came next to my chair with another girl and did their "you buy drinks for us?" routine. I smiled but mostly ignored it for a minute or so until I got a much closer look at that one girl's very sweet butt, legs, flat stomach, not an ounce of flab or excess fat on her anywhere and getting-cuter-all-the-time girlish smile. So I invited her to sit with me. There was no indication by proximity of mamasan Lek or any other mamasan that this girl had been sent to me for some reason or that she had been told about my complaint from just a few minutes earlier and so on. She was just a random better than average, very doable go-go girl in this bar.
Two Lady Drinks and lots of grinding on my lap, mild tongue kissing every now and then later, a deal was struck. And it was a pleasant, easy negotiation despite her very limited English skills and my limited Thai skills. But I must say she was as adamant and inflexible about moving from the general area of 3,000 baht to her as I have encountered more often than not in this particular go-go bar lately. Barfine 1,000 baht, 2,500 (first ask was 3,000 as usual for an above average young go-go girl here) IF we go to the ST room next door. I much prefer my apartment for sessions.
Doing a quick calculation that any young, cute, slim and receptive above average or better go-go dancer around here would easily swing 2,000 as a minimum, let's say adding an understandable 500 baht surcharge for agreeing to boom boom the only way I will engage in it, plus the cost of that ST room that I did not want to use (must be at least 300-350 baht these days but I have not used one in a long time), and I had no emotional resistance to agreeing to her original 3,000 baht asking rate for her IF we do indeed engage in the Real GFE I repeated to her in 3-4 different ways (haha) and IF we go to my apartment instead for a no hurry, relaxed Real GFE Short Time. Done.
And I was very, very pleased with the outcome in the room this time.
Ha ha, I remember No. 3 She used to be pretty. However I could not take her any more with a face like an old man.Yes, strangely enough #3 has a face that looks similar to Donald Trump. If I didn't know better, I would think someone photoshopped Trump's face onto her body.
The third from left is surely a photoshopped face.
My choice 2nd from right. Cute with nice natural boobs- take these any day over bolt-on ice cream cone implants.
As promised, here's my final report. I must say that this trip has been a good experience for me. The only bad experience was the one I wrote up earlier on the girl from Daisy Dream Massage (Indy). Experience ranged from OK to excellent for the others. I'll report here only on the excellent.
1. Mayji at Snow White was terrific. She's one of the slim ones at this place, and she has a cute face. She speaks very little English, but communication was not a problem. Cost for a two-hour takeout was 3,000 be. She did such a good job, that I gave her another 1,000 for a total of 4,000. We went to my hotel, so the session was very relaxed. Her blowjob was amazing! She gave it to me right after the shower, as we hopped into bed. Mayji is fairly young, so I was surprised by how good the BJ was, given her youth. It was very sensuous and she changed the position of her mouth regularly, so that made it more exciting. After about 15 minutes, I turned over and asked for a massage. It was excellent and she also gave me a wonderful rimming. She was so good that I had her lay down and I gave her a massage, which she immensely enjoyed. While she was still laying down, I finished the massage on her and ran my cock all over her backside, concentrating on the important area. She loved it and became aroused and started panting. I liked it too. After that, I laid back down on my back, and she gave me another wonderful blowjob. Finally, it was time for the finale. We did it in five or six positions, including doggie, flat doggie, cowgirl, cowgirl with me sitting up, her laying on the bed with her feet in the air on my shoulders, and mish for the finale. She was great.
2. I have to finish this report soon, so I'm going to give a quick summary. I took three different girls from Doki Doki and they all were terrific. I had never heard of Doki before, but I wanted to try the nuru. It's now my favorite. You lay down on an air mattress and she washes your back, then puts this thick, clear gel all over you. Then, she moves all around on top of you. It's very exciting and soothing at the same time. After a while, she focusses on the private parts, and it was so sexy, that I kept yelling and yelling in ecstasy. Eventually, she will turn you over on your back, and slide around on you. She focusses on the important parts and a nice BJ is included. Again, I was in ecstasy and could not keep from yelling with pleasure. It ends with sex either on the inflated rubber mattress or on the bed.
The three that I tried were all wonderful: Naomi, Sophia and Nadea. Best technique was a tie between Naomi and Nadea. Sophia was great, too, but not quite as good as the other two. All three were very good-looking, but Sophia was probably the best: tall and dark with a very pretty face. Her breasts are small which is fine with me. Nadea and Naomi have enhanced breasts, but they're nicely done.
That's it for my final report. I have a plane to catch this evening, so I have to keep one more appointment with Naomi. (I just did Nadea this morning.).
As promised, here's my final report. I must say that this trip has been a good experience for me. The only bad experience was the one I wrote up earlier on the girl from Daisy Dream Massage (Indy). Experience ranged from OK to excellent for the others. I'll report here only on the excellent.
1. Mayji at Snow White was terrific. She's one of the slim ones at this place, and she has a cute face. She speaks very little English, but communication was not a problem. Cost for a two-hour takeout was 3,000 be. She did such a good job, that I gave her another 1,000 for a total of 4,000. We went to my hotel, so the session was very relaxed. Her blowjob was amazing! She gave it to me right after the shower, as we hopped into bed. Mayji is fairly young, so I was surprised by how good the BJ was, given her youth. It was very sensuous and she changed the position of her mouth regularly, so that made it more exciting. After about 15 minutes, I turned over and asked for a massage. It was excellent and she also gave me a wonderful rimming. She was so good that I had her lay down and I gave her a massage, which she immensely enjoyed. While she was still laying down, I finished the massage on her and ran my cock all over her backside, concentrating on the important area. She loved it and became aroused and started panting. I liked it too. After that, I laid back down on my back, and she gave me another wonderful blowjob. Finally, it was time for the finale. We did it in five or six positions, including doggie, flat doggie, cowgirl, cowgirl with me sitting up, her laying on the bed with her feet in the air on my shoulders, and mish for the finale. She was great.
(I just did Nadea this morning.).Nice Report.
Wished they had updated Mayji's picutres on the website as they seem to have some new girls now.
Does she provide A-Level?
Glad you enjoyed Doki Doki.
I plan to go back to that place on a weekday sometime next month!
BMoreDog69
09-20-19, 13:01
I have never felt I needed to sneak ladies into JW, or other, Marriott locations.
Searching and reading it looks like lots of people have success taking girls in to JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) it looks like they have no problem.
Does anyone know if Marriott properties are officially guest friendly or they are sneaking girls in? Are all Marriott properties the same way? I have a 7 night Marriott certificate I'd like to use towards some pussayyy.
Searching and reading it looks like lots of people have success taking girls in to JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) it looks like they have no problem.
Does anyone know if Marriott properties are officially guest friendly or they are sneaking girls in? Are all Marriott properties the same way? I have a 7 night Marriott certificate I'd like to use towards some pussayyy.I have stayed many times only at JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) and they have never checked in / out any girl I have taken to my room. Even two girls together. Nevertheless, I think that they have people standing / sitting in the lobby, near the elevators, that are discretely checking all the people coming in and out. But this is a plus for me: I feel safer.
I consider JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) one of the best (if not the best) hotel in Bangkok, not only for mongering, but also for the superb breakfast served.
Which of these girls do you prefer?So that's what Smoothy looks like. Nice legs, shame about the face. I wonder how much he charges for ST? I would go 500 baht no problem.
BlueBudgie
09-20-19, 18:43
Perfect my dude. I'll be taking 3 up LOL wife plus 2! Anyways sounds like its going to be a solid week.
I have stayed many times only at JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) and they have never checked in / out any girl I have taken to my room. Even two girls together. Nevertheless, I think that they have people standing / sitting in the lobby, near the elevators, that are discretely checking all the people coming in and out. But this is a plus for me: I feel safer.
I consider JW Marriott (4 Sukhumvit Rd) one of the best (if not the best) hotel in Bangkok, not only for mongering, but also for the superb breakfast served.
BkkVistor77
09-20-19, 19:23
Could not agree more. When I go to a mall I see a lot of very attractive Thai gals. Also in the area I live in. I'm a bit out on the blue line. There are many amazing looking Chinese and Korean tourist gals that put all the local gals to shame as well. The working girls that are available to non-Thai men are not that desirable. On sites like FinFin there are lots of really amazing looking gals, but it is directed towards Thais and most gals have long sets of rules. Gone are the days when you could go into Thermae the last week of the month and pull a great looking office gal looking to supplement her income.I have to say the opposite, I just got back from Thermae, and after walking around the place 3 times I saw a lot of very very attractive girls, many of them early / mid 20's, and hot!
Tonight I didn't partake as that place is just not my scene, and find it all a little too overwhelming, however I was impressed by the quality.
Crocodilexp
09-21-19, 00:08
The working girls that are available to non-Thai men are not that desirable. On sites like FinFin there are lots of really amazing looking gals, but it is directed towards Thais and most gals have long sets of rules. Gone are the days when you could go into Thermae the last week of the month and pull a great looking office gal looking to supplement her income.
On FinFin there are plenty of OK looking photos, but most faces are blurred and it's heavily photoshopped, so you can't really tell. Moreover, the process from site to bang it is a hassle (even on a good day) and more importantly, none of the online apps will ever offer the experience of choosing among eager hookers the real world used to. The site targets Thais, but if you speak Thai it's OK, even doable with typing in English (as long as you keep it very simple).
A few times I've done FinFin, the experience was browsing 300 profiles, picking 10, sending Line, 5 of them reply within a reasonable timeframe, the hottest one doesn't like Farang and quotes a high price (no, I don't want you for 3 k if the website clearly says 1. 5 k), the next two stop replying just as I'm about to arrange to meet, and the last one is somewhere far out like Ramkhamaeng, so I take an hour to get there. The session is ok, the few girls I had were reasonably friendly and unrushed, though no beauty queens. However, during the long ride back, I'm thinking I should have jacked off and gone about my day, so that's exactly what I do next time.
Honestly, I doubt working girls available to Thai punters are significantly better, at least not in the under 3 k for ST bracket. It's simply crappier for all of us.
I have to say the opposite, I just got back from Thermae, and after walking around the place 3 times I saw a lot of very very attractive girls, many of them early / mid 20's, and hot!
Tonight I didn't partake as that place is just not my scene, and find it all a little too overwhelming, however I was impressed by the quality.Yes there were some cuties in there last night (Friday). On both sides of the bar.
I've been to BKK a few times and am reasonably familiar with the scene and various offerings around lower Sukhumvit. I wouldn't say I'm the most experienced or knowledgeable guy of such things, but I get by on what I do know and places I have been, experiences I've had etc.
I'll be back in BKK in a couple of months and will celebrate a milestone birthday while I'm there. Obviously, I'm keen to make it memorable in more ways than one, and am looking for suggestions and ideas. Budget, say, 10,000 B for this one night (not including accommodation).
I have to say the opposite, I just got back from Thermae, and after walking around the place 3 times I saw a lot of very very attractive girls, many of them early / mid 20's, and hot!
Tonight I didn't partake as that place is just not my scene, and find it all a little too overwhelming, however I was impressed by the quality.And the decent lookers will not go with western dudes for the most part.
And the decent lookers will not go with western dudes for the most part.They will if word of mouth has spread that you have a small cock, pay big money, and cum quickly.
And the decent lookers will not go with western dudes for the most part.Bearing in mind we will often have a different opinion on which girls are pretty, very pretty, beautiful or stunning, I think most of us would agree on who is decent / average looking, above average, doable or more than doable. Maybe I am wrong in assuming decent is essentially the same as average in this regard.
But if it can be taken as essentially the same, I have seen many decent/average (and above) girls walking out of Thermae with non Asians. I have also seen many pretty+ girls in there passed up by every man of every ethnicity and not taken now matter how crowded it is with customers. And I have seen many Asian men walking out with girls who barely qualify as doable. All variations on the theme really.
Aside from perhaps the top 5% best lookers in Thermae, my observation is every other girl in the place will go with any customer of almost any ethnicity as long as he is willing to pay her acceptable going rate and will settle for covered everything. At least, I have never felt a lack of either blatant or muted enthusiasm to be approached and taken from virtually all but that top 5% in there. And my fellow 50+ year old farangs would report the same personal experience.
There is no serious challenge for non Asian guys like us to get 95% of the girls in Thermae to go with us. The only real challenge is getting one to go with us while agreeing to either BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That's the only thing that replaces fairly obvious interest in me approaching a girl there with a "No" and "No", I mean. I don't have any survey info on Anal since neither I nor other guys I know who sometimes take Thermae girls negotiate for that.
But I am guessing Asian guys would also be stumped and stymied in taking many or any Thermae girls if BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP were the genuine upfront sticking points between the girl's interest in being approached and "Yes".
Aside from perhaps the top 5% best lookers in Thermae, my observation is every other girl in the place will go with any customer of almost any ethnicity as long as he is willing to pay her acceptable going rate and will settle for covered everything. At least, I have never felt a lack of either blatant or muted enthusiasm to be approached and taken from virtually all but that top 5% in there. And my fellow 50+ year old farangs would report the same personal experience.
There is no serious challenge for non Asian guys like us to get 95% of the girls in Thermae to go with us. The only real challenge is getting one to go with us while agreeing to either BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That's the only thing that replaces fairly obvious interest in me approaching a girl there with a "No" and "No", I mean. I don't have any survey info on Anal since neither I nor other guys I know who sometimes take Thermae girls negotiate for that.
But I am guessing Asian guys would also be stumped and stymied in taking many or any Thermae girls if BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP were the genuine upfront sticking points between the girl's interest in being approached and "Yes".I think you just proposed that opinions on decent, and extra pretty vary widely, unless customers are deliberately selecting the ugly girls thinking they will perform better.
Perhaps that is my problem. I am not will to choose ugly in order to get a good service. So I usually get a poor session from the Thermae girls. Restrictions for sure, dick scared too. Have not had a girl worth repeating from there for years!
I never specified your requirements for CIM, CIP, or BBFS, yet I still got girls not at all interested. So certainly not 95% willing to go with me. Obviously one can't know the exact percentage. I suspect much lower. Maybe my problem is I am certainly choosing from the top 5% of lookers (for my taste) which excludes bad surgeries cases, fat thighs and rounded faces. Actually I usually had at most 3 possible target girls in there (maybe less than 5%). Even if a girl goes with me, its of little use if she is not going to give an enthusiastic GFE, at least for me, and yeh I don't want a CBJ either. Some start with an "attitude" and want a Farang surcharge.
Yeh there are girls trying to grab me mainly from the right side, but I rarely am interested in them. They aren't in the top 5%, often not slim enough.
Way back in 1991, the Thermae was Farang guy dominated, many much older than me. In those days it was very common to see guys approach girls, have a discussion (very basic I assume), and move on. Either the girl knocked them back, or guy was asking for things that the girl did not want, or money offer was too poor. Yet in that year I did not get refusals, even from girls that had refused several other guys. I don't know the reason. Was it because I was only 35, or not stingy, or had a small amount of Thai language, I don't know. In that year the girls would stay all night. Fantastic GFEs were had with seemingly horny girls, needing a bit of extra pocket money outside their regular job. Seems so different now. I got a lot of Thai language practice with these girls too, even I struggled a lot in that year. Most Thermae girls had very low English. Would love to go back and repeat.
Girls in the Thermae always had the right to choose what they wanted too. In old days they seemed choosy and seemed to look for a good time for night as well as some money. Back then they were only part time hookers, mostly.
On FinFin there are plenty of OK looking photos, but most faces are blurred and it's heavily photoshopped, so you can't really tell. Moreover, the process from site to bang it is a hassle (even on a good day) and more importantly, none of the online apps will ever offer the experience of choosing among eager hookers the real world used to. The site targets Thais, but if you speak Thai it's OK, even doable with typing in English (as long as you keep it very simple).
A few times I've done FinFin, the experience was browsing 300 profiles, picking 10, sending Line, 5 of them reply within a reasonable timeframe, the hottest one doesn't like Farang and quotes a high price (no, I don't want you for 3 k if the website clearly says 1. 5 k), the next two stop replying just as I'm about to arrange to meet, and the last one is somewhere far out like Ramkhamaeng, so I take an hour to get there. The session is ok, the few girls I had were reasonably friendly and unrushed, though no beauty queens. However, during the long ride back, I'm thinking I should have jacked off and gone about my day, so that's exactly what I do next time.
Honestly, I doubt working girls available to Thai punters are significantly better, at least not in the under 3 k for ST bracket. It's simply crappier for all of us.Great report man. It shows the realities of the hassles with meeting Thai girls that can be very unreliable.
While I can speak Thai and even type Thai well, I am not looking for the so called thrill of the hunt. I just can't be bothered to go through what you describe. Maybe I would make an exception and go to Ram Kham Haeng for a stunner, if I was sure about her face and figure. However girls that normally have Thai customers, may not be really at ease and horny with Farangs.
Hence I much prefer to do girls that normally fuck Farangs or at least greatly prefer Farangs. Far more likely to have a good experience that way. No point me going to an Asian dominated bar, MP, Soapy or web hook up site.
On a slight tangent:
One day went to Emanuelle Soapy and chose a slim absolute stunner for my taste. She had restrictions, dick scared, did not like to do a BJ, and in the end could not really fuck her. A disaster. She said that her normal young Asian customers had no issues with her. They were happy with her poor service, I guess because she was so pretty and nice body. Yet her skills and service were pathetic. Previously I did have some good girls from Emannuelle, that performed fine even if not used to Farangs, but it gets worse and worse, I suppose as I get older.
I don't really understand it, but back in the 90s I could go to a Soapy like Chao Praya 2, where probably the majority of customers were Thai, with some Farangs. Yet back then I had few bad experiences. Could the girls have had a much different attitude because I was younger? I don't think that can be the full story. Girls needed repeat customers. They seemed to try to make the service very good. Hardly met dick scared girls back then. Maybe it helped I had a good mamasan to consult with, not taking her recommended girls necessarily but more so asking her about my targets. She could easily rule out any terrible girls. In those days "body slide" girls tended to be reliable for service. Was never a hassle to be at Chao Praya 2 Soapy for hours, sit eating and drinking. When spot a desirable girl in a large line up, go do a session. Some times more than one session in same day, without even leaving the premises.
I think you just proposed that opinions on decent, and extra pretty vary widely, unless customers are deliberately selecting the ugly girls thinking they will perform better.
Perhaps that is my problem. I am not will to choose ugly in order to get a good service. So I usually get a poor session from the Thermae girls. Restrictions for sure, dick scared too. Have not had a girl worth repeating from there for years!
I never specified your requirements for CIM, CIP, or BBFS, yet I still got girls not at all interested. So certainly not 95% willing to go with me. Obviously one can't know the exact percentage. I suspect much lower. Maybe my problem is I am certainly choosing from the top 5% of lookers (for my taste) which excludes bad surgeries cases, fat thighs and rounded faces. Actually I usually had at most 3 possible target girls in there (maybe less than 5%). Even if a girl goes with me, its of little use if she is not going to give an enthusiastic GFE, at least for me, and yeh I don't want a CBJ either. Some start with an "attitude" and want a Farang surcharge.
Yeh there are girls trying to grab me mainly from the right side, but I rarely am interested in them. They aren't in the top 5%, often not slim enough.
...I know some punters will ignore girls who do not fit their spec even to the point of seeming somewhat rude to them or, at the very least, seem themselves to be aloof and disinterested. If I have read your posts correctly, I believe that is often your approach as well. I understand that since I will often behave that way myself in many cases. Particularly in most P4P scenarios where paying the least bit of attention to unacceptable girls only encourages them to come over to you, pester you for Lady Drinks, to sit in your lap and so on.
But that is never going to be the case in Thermae. IMO, that kind of approach many of us employ in go-go bars or walking down the street is the opposite of what can work for us in Thermae. There is virtually zero risk of being hit on and pestered by unacceptable girls in there even if you walk through the crowd and circle the room with a big, welcoming smile and "sawatdee khrup" aimed at any and every girl in your normal line of sight until you settle into a spot to be a bit more specific about it.
I employ the latter approach in Thermae and it never means I am going to choose from among the ugliest girls my eyes and smile happened to land on during the course of the cruise. And they are never going to walk 5 steps out of line to grab my pecker and hit me up for a Lady Drink (there are none in Thermae. lol). However, I am guessing that by doing that a much higher percentage of decent to above average, pretty, often even very pretty girls are responding positively to me along the way than if I scowled on the stroll until I narrowed my gaze on just the 3-5 girls who might qualify as among the top 5% of lookers according to my spec. True, it also doesn't mean that a girl I approach from among those responsive prettier girls is going to say "Yes" to my BBBJ+CIM or BBFS-CIP expectations. But if I were happy to pay their going rate and get neither, which I am not, I think I could walk out of Thermae any night of the week with one of the top, oh let's say 10% lookers in the place. Almost certainly from among the top 20%.
As you alluded to, that is the only "survey" method we can use for this issue in Thermae. So that is the survey method I use. I see plenty of farangs walking in and around Thermae with a dour, deadpan expression or scowl on their face and they get near zero indication of interest from just about every girl in the room. Then they walk over to one of the top 5% lookers, get shut down and leave. I assume they will now tell anyone who asks that Thermae girls "only like Asians." Not saying that is your situation, Syzygies. And I understand that if the only girls in Thermae that look "decent" or better to a farang are among the top 5% lookers, then he could easily conclude there are no girls worth meeting in there since most of the decent ones are only interested in Asian customers. Because, in all probability, the top 5% lookers ARE only interested in Asian customers.
And the decent lookers will not go with western dudes for the most part.They do with me.
BkkVistor77
09-21-19, 11:29
And the decent lookers will not go with western dudes for the most part.Not so sure if that's true, I'd say over half seemed willing to go with me. Maybe the thing is that most of the Asian punters are younger, look like they are having a good time, look like they have money, and are a little less creepy that us farang middle aged mongers (me included).
I know some punters will ignore girls who do not fit their spec even to the point of seeming somewhat rude to them or, at the very least, seem themselves to be aloof and disinterested. If I have read your posts correctly, I believe that is often your approach as well. I understand that since I will often behave that way myself in many cases. Particularly in most P4P scenarios where paying the least bit of attention to unacceptable girls only encourages them to come over to you, pester you for Lady Drinks, to sit in your lap and so on.
But that is never going to be the case in Thermae. IMO, that kind of approach many of us employ in go-go bars or walking down the street is the opposite of what can work for us in Thermae. There is virtually zero risk of being hit on and pestered by unacceptable girls in there even if you walk through the crowd and circle the room with a big, welcoming smile and "sawatdee khrup" aimed at any and every girl in your normal line of sight until you settle into a spot to be a bit more specific about it.
I employ the latter approach in Thermae and it never means I am going to choose from among the ugliest girls my eyes and smile happened to land on during the course of the cruise. And they are never going to walk 5 steps out of line to grab my pecker and hit me up for a Lady Drink (there are none in Thermae. lol). However, I am guessing that by doing that a much higher percentage of decent to above average, pretty, often even very pretty girls are responding positively to me along the way than if I scowled on the stroll until I narrowed my gaze on just the 3-5 girls who might qualify as among the top 5% of lookers according to my spec. True, it also doesn't mean that a girl I approach from among those responsive prettier girls is going to say "Yes" to my BBBJ+CIM or BBFS-CIP expectations. But if I were happy to pay their going rate and get neither, which I am not, I think I could walk out of Thermae any night of the week with one of the top, oh let's say 10% lookers in the place. Almost certainly from among the top 20%.
As you alluded to, that is the only "survey" method we can use for this issue in Thermae. So that is the survey method I use. I see plenty of farangs walking in and around Thermae with a dour, deadpan expression or scowl on their face and they get near zero indication of interest from just about every girl in the room. Then they walk over to one of the top 5% lookers, get shut down and leave. I assume they will now tell anyone who asks that Thermae girls "only like Asians." Not saying that is your situation, Syzygies. And I understand that if the only girls in Thermae that look "decent" or better to a farang are among the top 5% lookers, then he could easily conclude there are no girls worth meeting in there since most of the decent ones are only interested in Asian customers. Because, in all probability, the top 5% lookers ARE only interested in Asian customers.Ha ha. You are probably spot on. I can be very deadpan and aloof, if I am not spotting any girl that interests me. Years of bar training to absolutely ignore girls of no interest, to avoid being pestered. I am not like some guys that can sleaze up to girls even if he has no intention of buying whatsoever. I don't like to waste the girl's time, unless sure she has nothing better to do with her time. I don't like to occupy girls' time without intentions, since could cause them to miss a real customer prospect.
I always believed making eye contact only encourages girls, so I don't like to make eye contact for too long with girls unless they interest me, and avoid it completely for the uglies. Refusing to make eye contact with girls gives an immediate clear message I think and helps keep away lots of bar girls.
I can't be bothered talking to lots of girls, unless the girl is particularly interesting to talk to. After all I went there to get a hot fuck.
I am capable of showing clear interest in a girl though, once she really pulls my eye. Maybe not the biggest grin in the place, until a stunner wants me. Ha ha. Girls will know when I can't stop looking at them repeatedly. Sometimes they then give encouragement and sometimes the reverse. So often I will know a girl is not keen at all, before I even approach. I would still call that a knock back, if an indirect one. If I speak to them and they don't answer, that is also a knock back in my mind.
Yes I accept my demeanour can count against me. I am not grinning heaps when there is no funny joke happening. However I am actually quite relaxed and jovial, even when girls think I am deadpan. I find sometimes girls will knock me back if I took too long to decide on them, as though they were not seen as really good, but merely a last resort reluctant pick.
In the 90's, there were none of these problems. I guess I was younger and more handsome (ha ha. Joke - rather average I think) and possibly seen as one of the most desirable guys on offer at the time. Not any more, yet I am not fat (not quite slim but okay). And still have hair (not even much white hairs) which probably counts for zero.
Maybe a big smile could help me. I notice Natty Bumpo can put on a more encouraging face than I probably manage. So I guess important for us to try to act much younger than our actual age.
Some of my regular girls are young and pretty and quite orgasmic, very into the sex, love DATY and cowgirl etc. , and don't seem to give a shit about my age. However the difference is they know my character already.
Some girls respond very well to me indeed. In a bar, it merely needs a wink or nod to show interest and call a girl over. Always have fond memories of an extremely lovey-dovey girl I met in Billboard, who was quite intimate after just a few minutes and a couple of pink tequilas. Yet I assume she turned it on for all the customers. She soon found a Farang BF sponsor and quit there very promptly. She certainly knew how to catch a big fish, pretty, good body and a good fuck too. Too good for me (sort of). I would have repeated her forever.
Early 2000s I used to get knockbacks from some bargirls and still did sometimes in Crazy House. The main reason had to be they wanted Asians or young spunky guys. We got used to it. They still had plenty of girls that preferred older farangs. They can lie back, close the eyes and really get into DATY, they can dim the lights for sex, to better ignore that the man is a bit old. If I offer girls the chance to skip the DATY, very few of them want to skip it. That might be the best part for them.
Blanquiceleste
09-21-19, 12:14
Honestly, I doubt working girls available to Thai punters are significantly better, at least not in the under 3 k for ST bracket. It's simply crappier for all of us.In reality they may not be, but that is how psychology works. Men always covet something they don't have or cannot get.
I felt it was time to give my Soi 4 street girl Naam, another visit. Have not seem her for over 3 months (hardly was in Bangkok). Always a great GFE and wonderful feel pussy. Got there and met Joom immediately who is a always there and a friend of Naam. Joom says sorry Naam is pregnant already, has Farang BF and they got married. Oh fuck! Another of my regulars gone. One other girl on the street looks sort of acceptable but I did not try. Went to look in a few Nana bars. I see there are now 2 Twister bars, with Twister BKK added to the left ground floor. Had a look and also in Bill Board. Bill board had a big party. Girls were dressed up a la Victoria's Secret slightly (so some had wings on). Junk food like Pizza and chips etc. Was being served too.
Annoyingly hard to see girls at the back on the rotating stage. Some really great asses on display at the front. Faces were harder to tell because the lighting is so dreadfully poor (and my eyesight is getting old). However I know that not many have a really pretty face (some above average though). From right underneath can see how broad most of the noses are even with nose job. Could not really pick any girl I could be sure of being happy with under the difficult circumstances. Tits can't tell either because covered too much. Had a peak in Diamonds with better lighting and some topless girls. Nothing that amazing for a pretty face.
Started to walk back to Cowboy, but decided to take a look in Thermae for fun. Was absolutely packed with big queues to get a drink. Heaps of Asian guys circulating clockwise. Did not really see Farangs in the circulating throng. Was surprised that 2 right hand side girls were actually quite good looking although lighting in Thermae is also a little subdued and of a tone that seems to make girls look better than they do once they are outside. Finally I see on left side a girl with light and pretty face (at least as far as I could see in that lighting). I had my incorrect glasses on (intended for computer work). She assures me that she likes Farangs and is not scared of them in the slightest. So I took her away for short time.
She was 30 YO or so. Her body was okay Tits small as expected and not saggy. Belly scar from a baby, but not a really heavy one. Ass okay Unfortunately big pussy Bush. If in a gogo bar, I probably would not have even called her over. Off to my Hotel.
Showered separately, the first suspect sign. She did not want to kiss more than a peck. Claimed to have injured her tongue while brushing her teeth. Ha ha. (I am Skeptical). She did not tolerate DATY for that long before complaining of hurt. Ridiculous! I was going incredibily soft and I have just shaved very smooth taking significant time. Was bothersome to have to get her Bush out of the way. No one complains about my DATY that fast, and hardly ever unless the girl has injury from her own pussy shaving. Most girls get horny even if reluctantly. So how am I going to get turned on. She has admitted to being quite inexperienced by now. A hairdresser by day in Ramkhamhaeng. In Thermae with a group of her friends / Colleagues. I doubt she has fucked many Farangs. She says she can do a BJ. So the BBBJ is actually not bad. Very slow and soft as I like. Dick goes up. So put on condom and try to fuck. Her pussy does not feel good for some reason like its hard to get in there very deep. Pussy is not gripping the dick at all, yet check with fingers finds no obstruction. It is possible deep down they could be problem like stitched too tight since fingers can only reach 4 to 5 inches and dick is somewhat longer. Anyway my dick is not enjoying the feel (after some beautiful feeling fucks at SW and Doki Doki in earlier days and even a bargirl from Five Star). So naturally the dick is starting to sag and her looks are not that massively hot especially with big Bush to keep me excited. I am oldish now. Dick is quite insensitive. Things have to go right for me to enjoy, maybe not like when I was 35 YO. Soon realised there was no way the fuck with her was going to work, and she was not even moving her body like she wanted it.
So yet another poor session from Thermae. In truth I have managed to cum with some of my girls from last few years at the Thermae, certainly not all, but not one of them was good enough to ever consider repeating. So that's it. Can't see any reason to ever go to Thermae again. My success rate is just too poor. Basically batting zero for last few years in terms of being really satisfied and considering it not to be a waste of money. Its for a different sort of customer, young Asians I guess. Maybe they don't care if girls have weak experience, lack of skills, big Bush, etc. Or maybe the girls can perform a bit better. I am sure I have had a bad string of luck with my choices, but don't see how to rectify that. If girls were dancing nude on stage, under good lighting, like at some bars, I could choose way better. Maybe could choose better with a long interview process but I detect that the girls hate long discussions and too many questions, generally. They want to know pretty quick if you will take them. In a gogo bar, I can manage to have a very long consideration and interview process before BFing. It works better and I have a much better success rate. MPs can be hit and miss too if they have plenty of dud girls at the venue. So venue becomes important. Had plenty of dud girls in Soapies in recent years too, with the odd really good one.
So it must be me. I am put off girls easily, and dick just doesn't work with too much adversity. The condom of course is the start of the adversity but can be tolerated with top performing girls with really hot looks. Never was a problem with my favourite Crazy House girls, for example.
So my advice, if you are an older Farang with a non sensitive dick like me, and need things to be going pretty much right with girls ability, attitude, looks, and body, then Thermae is a very suspect hunting ground, where can get very inexperienced girls and with low skills. Did not find many "horny" girls from there. More interested in quick money mostly these days.
Later I took a regular bar girl (several times in last 2 years). She was real horny and claimed to have had no fuck for a while. She came extra fast from DATY within 2 minutes, as she claimed her pussy had been quite deprived lately. Never found her that difficult to cum, and always likes the DATY. Gave me a good BBBJ and also a tit fuck since her tits are big (has gained a little weight). Also her pussy is very beautiful to look at which is nice for me, not just for fucking. Her landing strip above is very short and smooth shaved round the sides of the pussy to above the clit level.
Time to give the dick a day off maybe now. To make sure I am really horny again.
I felt it was time to give my Soi 4 street girl Naam, another visit. Have not seem her for over 3 months (hardly was in Bangkok). Always a great GFE and wonderful feel pussy. Got there and met Joom immediately who is a always there and a friend of Naam. Joom says sorry Naam is pregnant already, has Farang BF and they got married. Oh fuck! Another of my regulars gone. One other girl on the street looks sort of acceptable but I did not try. Went to look in a few Nana bars. I see there are now 2 Twister bars, with Twister BKK added to the left ground floor. Had a look and also in Bill Board. Bill board had a big party. Girls were dressed up a la Victoria's Secret slightly (so some had wings on). Junk food like Pizza and chips etc. Was being served too.
Annoyingly hard to see girls at the back on the rotating stage. Some really great asses on display at the front. Faces were harder to tell because the lighting is so dreadfully poor (and my eyesight is getting old). However I know that not many have a really pretty face (some above average though). From right underneath can see how broad most of the noses are even with nose job. Could not really pick any girl I could be sure of being happy with under the difficult circumstances. Tits can't tell either because covered too much. Had a peak in Diamonds with better lighting and some topless girls. Nothing that amazing for a pretty face.
Started to walk back to Cowboy, but decided to take a look in Thermae for fun. Was absolutely packed with big queues to get a drink. Heaps of Asian guys circulating clockwise. Did not really see Farangs in the circulating throng. Was surprised that 2 right hand side girls were actually quite good looking although lighting in Thermae is also a little subdued and of a tone that seems to make girls look better than they do once they are outside. Finally I see on left side a girl with light and pretty face (at least as far as I could see in that lighting). I had my incorrect glasses on (intended for computer work). She assures me that she likes Farangs and is not scared of them in the slightest. So I took her away for short time.
She was 30 YO or so. Her body was okay Tits small as expected and not saggy. Belly scar from a baby, but not a really heavy one. Ass okay Unfortunately big pussy Bush. If in a gogo bar, I probably would not have even called her over. Off to my Hotel.
Showered separately, the first suspect sign. She did not want to kiss more than a peck. Claimed to have injured her tongue while brushing her teeth. Ha ha. (I am Skeptical). She did not tolerate DATY for that long before complaining of hurt. Ridiculous! I was going incredibily soft and I have just shaved very smooth taking significant time. Was bothersome to have to get her Bush out of the way. No one complains about my DATY that fast, and hardly ever unless the girl has injury from her own pussy shaving. Most girls get horny even if reluctantly. So how am I going to get turned on. She has admitted to being quite inexperienced by now. A hairdresser by day in Ramkhamhaeng. In Thermae with a group of her friends / Colleagues. I doubt she has fucked many Farangs. She says she can do a BJ. So the BBBJ is actually not bad. Very slow and soft as I like. Dick goes up. So put on condom and try to fuck. Her pussy does not feel good for some reason like its hard to get in there very deep. Pussy is not gripping the dick at all, yet check with fingers finds no obstruction. It is possible deep down they could be problem like stitched too tight since fingers can only reach 4 to 5 inches and dick is somewhat longer. Anyway my dick is not enjoying the feel (after some beautiful feeling fucks at SW and Doki Doki in earlier days and even a bargirl from Five Star). So naturally the dick is starting to sag and her looks are not that massively hot especially with big Bush to keep me excited. I am oldish now. Dick is quite insensitive. Things have to go right for me to enjoy, maybe not like when I was 35 YO. Soon realised there was no way the fuck with her was going to work, and she was not even moving her body like she wanted it.
So yet another poor session from Thermae. In truth I have managed to cum with some of my girls from last few years at the Thermae, certainly not all, but not one of them was good enough to ever consider repeating. So that's it. Can't see any reason to ever go to Thermae again. My success rate is just too poor. Basically batting zero for last few years in terms of being really satisfied and considering it not to be a waste of money. Its for a different sort of customer, young Asians I guess. Maybe they don't care if girls have weak experience, lack of skills, big Bush, etc. Or maybe the girls can perform a bit better. I am sure I have had a bad string of luck with my choices, but don't see how to rectify that. If girls were dancing nude on stage, under good lighting, like at some bars, I could choose way better. Maybe could choose better with a long interview process but I detect that the girls hate long discussions and too many questions, generally. They want to know pretty quick if you will take them. In a gogo bar, I can manage to have a very long consideration and interview process before BFing. It works better and I have a much better success rate. MPs can be hit and miss too if they have plenty of dud girls at the venue. So venue becomes important. Had plenty of dud girls in Soapies in recent years too, with the odd really good one.
So it must be me. I am put off girls easily, and dick just doesn't work with too much adversity. The condom of course is the start of the adversity but can be tolerated with top performing girls with really hot looks. Never was a problem with my favourite Crazy House girls, for example.
So my advice, if you are an older Farang with a non sensitive dick like me, and need things to be going pretty much right with girls ability, attitude, looks, and body, then Thermae is a very suspect hunting ground, where can get very inexperienced girls and with low skills. Did not find many "horny" girls from there. More interested in quick money mostly these days.
Later I took a regular bar girl (several times in last 2 years). She was real horny and claimed to have had no fuck for a while. She came extra fast from DATY within 2 minutes, as she claimed her pussy had been quite deprived lately. Never found her that difficult to cum, and always likes the DATY. Gave me a good BBBJ and also a tit fuck since her tits are big (has gained a little weight). Also her pussy is very beautiful to look at which is nice for me, not just for fucking. Her landing strip above is very short and smooth shaved round the sides of the pussy to above the clit level.
Time to give the dick a day off maybe now. To make sure I am really horny again.I think you hit on most of the reasons Thermae is one of the most uncomfortable and potentially least rewarding venues for choosing a good P4P girl unless you are the sort of customer who gets rock hard simply being alone in a hotel room with a girl and are delighted to engage in sex with a condom. In that case, the big advantage to Thermae over your (and my) better choice, go-go bars, is the price. You can get a decent looking, publicly presentable girl into your hotel room for as little as 2,500 baht. Not as good as meeting some of those same girls out on the street. But cheaper than the go-go bar route and most PSE MP and Soapy venues.
However, after getting a relative bargain price, good luck having a great time. Among those of us for whom a great time must include shaved or closely trimmed pussy, DFK, appreciated DATY, BBBJ and then either BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM (with a girl who at least approaches our acceptable spec, of course), we must interview much more extensively in Thermae than any other venue I know. That's where the problem of Thermae being one of the worst possible environments to interview and negotiate these things rears its ugly head.
I think you hit on most of the reasons Thermae is one of the most uncomfortable and potentially least rewarding venues for choosing a good P4P girl unless you are the sort of customer who gets rock hard simply being alone in a hotel room with a girl and are delighted to engage in sex with a condom. Ha ha. Yes you hit the nail on the head there. I am a veteran of seeing hot nude girls dancing for many years and been to European clubs with nude girls. 30 years ago I even went to nude beaches with ex wife. So the girl just being in the room with me with small tits and a big Bush is not making me rock hard. Not even slightly hard with some girls. I normally rely on nice kissing to start me going. If I happen to get no kissing and a shit BJ, I can be struggling badly.
Why aren't I hard? Ask some girls. Well nothing happened yet to make me hard. A shy girl does not make me automatically hard, even if naked.
I can get a hard on in the bar, but not from watching girls dancing. From kissing and touching.
A Japanese buddy had a dick so sensitive, he would have to drink a fair bit of alcohol before getting the girl naked, for fear he would blow his load in less than a minute once they got started. Alcohol dampens the sensation and helps some guys last longer. Quite the opposite for me (take a long time to cum). Alcohol impedes my feeling. I would love to be a happy medium with a quite sensitive dick and able to pop multiples etc. Getting 2 pops is quite rare for me and have not even tried recently.
More and more I think I need BBFS, to better guarantee it will work with the girl. So I understand your situation well. Insensitive dick. We need favourable circumstances and girl behaviour.
Yes Thermae is cheaper than a bargirl, but far less likely to be a good time. It is disaster to lose my very good value and performance Soi 4 girl to a Farang sponser. She could have been working Soi 4 for multiple reasons. Save money, likes fucking and looking for a Farang boyfriend. Her only weakness was very small tits, not something that bothers me. Apparently pregnant now (and I think already had 1 child). I wonder if she got pregnant to hook the guy? A very dangerous ploy, but not uncommon with Thai girls. I certainly don't approve of couples rushing to have a baby. One girl recently said she had a baby with Boyfriend of a very short duration because she was 30 and the clock was ticking. Boyfriend did not last.
I am very keen to get the Vasectomy done soon.
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I am very keen to get the Vasectomy done soon.Getting a vasectomy was one of the best decisions of my life with regard to my sexual pleasure and reducing the risk of unwanted pregnancy to near zero, supposedly 20 times safer than 100% proper condom use.
Unless there is a new and better technique for performing one developed in the past 35 years since I got mine, research the "no-scalpel" vasectomy option. Do a Google Search. There will be no pain during the procedure anyway. But the "no-scalpel" method also hastens recovery with less pain. And is far less intrusive and risky in terms of unexpected longer term sensation loss on your ball sac.
That's the kind I got. I did not even know that was my doctor's preferred way of performing a vasectomy until he started the procedure. LOL. I assumed he was going to make two incisions on the front of my scrotum to access the vas deferens. No, instead, he just poked one hole in the back of my scrotum, almost to the taint, and pulled each of the two vas deferens through that single hole, one at a time, to perform the procedure.
I suppose that hole can be poked at the front of the scrotum. Don't know. But I am glad there were no incisions or holes poked on the front of my scrotum because I am one who enjoys light tickling there and did not want to risk even a minor pleasure sensation "dead zone" spot where scar tissue might inhibit pleasurable sensation long after healing. Maybe that is never an issue either way. But I was still glad not to even consider it could be an issue.
I suppose that hole can be poked at the front of the scrotum. Don't know. But I am glad there were no incisions or holes poked on the front of my scrotum because I am one who enjoys light tickling there and did not want to risk even a minor pleasure sensation "dead zone" spot where scar tissue might inhibit pleasurable sensation long after healing. Maybe that is never an issue either way. But I was still glad not to even consider it could be an issue.Thanks for advice. I am very much into same tickling. All my regular girls know this very well.
Thanks for advice. I am very much into same tickling. All my regular girls know this very well.Yes, I knew that about you as well because I'd read it before here. But I didn't mention I knew it in my post because I didn't want other readers to get the wrong idea about how I knew it about you. Haha.
...............She did not tolerate DATY for that long before complaining of hurt. Ridiculous! I was going incredibily soft and I have just shaved very smooth taking significant time............This is the first time I have ever heard of a girl complaining of pain from DATY. That is virtually impossible unless you use your teeth.
This is the first time I have ever heard of a girl complaining of pain from DATY. That is virtually impossible unless you use your teeth.A girl might claim "jep (pain) pussy" from DATY if she is out to scam a customer into bringing the entire session to a stop (after enjoying the DATY, that is) but for him to still pay her the full amount of baht agreed upon as though she'd actually provided him with some kind of sex act other than DATY. That is exactly what happened to me just about a week ago.
No, I didn't use my teeth either. LOL. I never do. Nor do I have long fingernails that might scratch her pussy from fingering it. Nor do I put some kind of ointment on my hands or in my mouth to make a pussy "jep" during DATY or while touching it. In my case, the mild and gentle DATY only lasted about 5 minutes. And after I asked if she was in too much pain to continue and did she want to leave now, she said Yes but forgot to continue pretending in an overly dramatic fashion that her pussy was "jep" as she happily hopped out of bed, showered, dressed and prepared to leave as though her pussy had never felt a moment of pain in its entire life. That was the final giveaway that she was lying.
Here are the links to my report on the experience and my followup report about what happened when I returned to the bar to tell a mamasan about it.
Avoid the slim blonde scammer Nom in Butterflies
(Post #47144)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2371644#post2371644.
(Post #47175)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2372783#post2372783.
Member #4698
09-22-19, 17:00
A girl might claim "jep (pain) pussy" from DATY if she is out to scam a customer into bringing the entire session to a stop (after enjoying the DATY, that is) but for him to still pay her the full amount of baht agreed upon as though she'd actually provided him with some kind of sex act other than DATY. That is exactly what happened to me just about a week ago.
No, I didn't use my teeth either. LOL. I never do. Nor do I have long fingernails that might scratch her pussy from fingering it. Nor do I put some kind of ointment on my hands or in my mouth to make a pussy "jep" during DATY or while touching it. In my case, the mild and gentle DATY only lasted about 5 minutes. And after I asked if she was in too much pain to continue and did she want to leave now, she said Yes but forgot to continue pretending in an overly dramatic fashion that her pussy was "jep" as she happily hopped out of bed, showered, dressed and prepared to leave as though her pussy had never felt a moment of pain in its entire life. That was the final giveaway that she was lying.
Here are the links to my report on the experience and my followup report about what happened when I returned to the bar to tell a mamasan about it.
Avoid the slim blonde scammer Nom in Butterflies
(Post #47144)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2371644#post2371644.
(Post #47175)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2372783#post2372783.Yours was obviously a bad girl and a scam artist. Oh well, it happens to us all occasionally. There is no way to eliminate a rare 1 in 100 or 1 in 200 ripoff. If one is experiencing a significantly higher scam frequency than say a 1 in 50 percentage than its probably time to reevaluate one's MO or sourcing.
The last bad one I had was in September 2018 from Badabing A Go Go. She was a pretty girl and very nice in the bar. I took her back to my hotel. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and bareback sexual intercourse for the 1st 12 minutes was ALL GOOD. Then she started asking if I could finish soon, ha ha, which she continued on with every 60 seconds like a stop watch until I got tired of it and pulled out thus terminating the session. Then she asked if I was mad and began apologizing, telling me that the next time I could take as much time as I wanted. I told her there was no next time only now time, but that I was not mad, only disappointed with her. So, I gave her 2000 baht. Our in the bar agreed upon price was 2500 baht. She did not complain, but asked for taxi money. I gave her 100 baht more just to get rid of her. Then I fixed up the bed, took a quick shower, and went to Nana where I picked up a cute little Chinese replica in RB4 and had a good time.
The moral of the story is that my Badabing girl got away with her bad service and your Butterflies girl got away with her scam because any amount we give them is a plus as far as they, the bad girls, are concerned. They received lady drink commissions, barfine points and received a significant portion of their fee all while shortchanging their respective customers. What can you say? This is the definition of a bad girl. So, I say fuck them and move on. Although I will add that my little episode turned me off on Badabing and I have not gone back or barfined a girl from there since. That may be unfair to the bar, but hey, it is just as easy for me to go to Kings Castle 1 & 2 or Pink Panther and I have never been burned in those bars.
For those who laughed when I told my story about the time I fucked the midget from Soi Cowboy, here's a photo of a somewhat similar midget. What guy in his right mind wouldn't fuck that?
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So, I say fuck them and move on. Although I will add that my little episode turned me off on Badabing and I have not gone back or barfined a girl from there since. That may be unfair to the bar, but hey, it is just as easy for me to go to Kings Castle 1 & 2 or Pink Panther and I have never been burned in those bars.Yeah, I am sometimes inclined to write off a bar entirely after a particularly bad experience too. Like you, I recognize that it is probably unfair to the bar. I wouldn't automatically do that after getting one bad meal in a restaurant I'd had good meals in before or hearing a lousy band once in a nightclub. There must be something about the let down after winding yourself up physically and emotionally for a good time, the personal investment you put into it for you and her. Why have the cloud of that memory over your head when you walk in that bar again? Especially when there are so many other bars and girls around.
Going back into a bar where a girl has burned you in the recent past just isn't nearly as pleasant as going into a bar where the slate is blank. Or, better yet, a bar where you have had good results and no scams pulled on you.
Going back into a bar where a girl has burned you to report it to the mamasan, while the girl is right there too, is probably too much for most punters to fathom doing. But I suppose there are times when it would bother me more not to do it than to do it. Lol. Could have something to do with the fact that I live here and am not just passing through. I have no excuse for not doing it. It isn't like I am so busy rushing to the next session before heading back to the airport or anything like that.
Member #4698
09-22-19, 19:39
Going back into a bar where a girl has burned you in the recent past just isn't nearly as pleasant as going into a bar where the slate is blank. Or, better yet, a bar where you have had good results and no scams pulled on you.
Going back into a bar where a girl has burned you to report it to the mamasan, while the girl is right there too, is probably too much for most punters to fathom doing. But I suppose there are times when it would bother me more not to do it than to do it. Lol. Could have something to do with the fact that I live here and am not just passing through. I have no excuse for not doing it. It isn't like I am so busy rushing to the next session before heading back to the airport or anything like that.I am not sure that going back to the bar to report the issue to the mamasan or manager does any good. In your example, if you had gone back to the bar right away with the girl in hand, mamasan might have given your barfine back or offered you another girl of your choice or she might not have. That's not a good position to be in if the response was the latter, but at least you would know for certain what kind of bar you are dealing with.
I did this one time ie went back to the mamasan with the girl in hand, but this was not in BKK. I was at 1001 Hotel and Spa in Jakarta. I was in a room with one of their girls. We had showered together and were in bed naked when the girl tried to place a condom on my dick before commencing a BJ. I objected. The girl said this was the only way she would do it. Then she said, "do you want a different girl?" And I said I would prefer you, but if you will not give me a BJ without condom, yes, I want another girl. I should add that I had never done this before ie tried to change girls. So, we put on our clothes and went downstairs to the reception / lounge area and we spoke to the mamasan. I told her my problem and what we had done in the room up to that point. The girl backed me up on my reportage. The mamasan's reaction was; there is no problem. CBJ is what we do here. Girl has done nothing wrong. You can't change girl. You can have 2nd girl and will be charged 2 x or you can go back upstairs and finish or you can pay what you owe and leave. I objected and after failing to convince me of her logic for 10 minutes, she asked if I wanted to talk to the manager. Having gone this far I said yes, I want to talk the manager.
So, the girl and I waited in the lounge area for another 10 minutes until the manager came out to talk with us. I repeated my story. The girl backed me up. The manger said the same thing as mamasan, what's the problem. There is no problem. Our girls don't give BBBJ's. I then said that I had been here many times and almost always received BBBJ's to which the manager asked me to name the girls who gave me BBBJ's. I said no, I am not going to tell (rat) on good girls and get them in trouble. Just take the charge off my tab and I will forget the matter. To wit the manager said sorry can not do that. He spoke to the girl and then said, take the girl back upstairs. I will reset the clock and you will have full time left and this girl will take very good care of you. I said no I don't think so. The vibe between us is no longer good. HA HA. He laughed and said no, it is still very good. This is her job. She will take good care of you and then he said something more to the girl and she nodded again in the affirmative yes. HA HA HA!
So, after fooling around in the lounge area for over 30 minutes I got nowhere. MY choice was to 1. reject the girl on principal, but pay my tab in full or 2. spend the next 3 or 4 hours arguing with security and or the cops or 3. take the girl back upstairs and fuck her brains out regardless about how I felt at the moment. I chose No 3 so the clock was reset and I went back upstairs with the girl in hand for the most unusual sex I have had with a prostitute in over 20 years. 555.
Back in the room, the girl started to go for the shower again and I said, "hey honey we just took a shower 30 minutes ago. Let's get to it." So, I laid down on my back stark nagged and she applied the condom and gave me a BJ while I remained a passive starfish customer with a chip on his shoulder. But she got me kind of hard and asked if she could proceed and I said yeah, so she mounted up and began to ride my dick as I continued to do absolutely nothing. But then I began watching her tits bounce all around as she was riding me pretty damn good and sonofabitch if I didn't start to enjoy it. Ha Ha. So, I cupped her tits and then realized I was rock hard. Eventually I flipped her over into mish and fucked her pretty hard, but not too hard, and sure enough I came in about 25 minutes. The God Damn slimy manager was right. The fuck itself was pretty good and the girl took pretty good care of me. I guess I am just a fuck hound! Anyway, I wasn't mad at the girl anymore. We even laughed a bit while we showered together and then we got dressed. But, as we were leaving the room, she asked me for a tip. So I said, "next time a customer asks you for a BBBJ, give him a BBBJ and do not say no." She responded with, "what about my tip" and I said, "that was my tip to you. Think about it." So, we walked back down to the lounge NOT holding hands and we DID NOT say goodbye. I didn't bother hanging out any further in the lounge or looking over any of the 100 or so other girls there as I usually would. I paid my tab which was 1,400,000 rp for the girl and left. I took a taxi up to CJ's and had shot of Tequila while surveying all the FL's in the bar. I did not take an 2nd girl that night. I was spent.
And that is my story about trying to change girls in a Bordello. It did not work out as I originally envisioned it, but my experience had a strange, quirky ending. BTW, thus far, I haven't gone back to 1001. It has been 2 years since this night occurred. Previously I had been a big fan of the joint and met lots of really great girls there. I probably will go back tentatively on my next visit. They have a ton of young, pretty Indo girls and my percentage there is roughly a plus 60/40 BBBJ's over CBJ's. In the past, I have also enjoyed anal rimmings and BBFS there too. It just depends on the girl and your luck of the draw. But of course, at other bordellos in Jakarta, the odds of receiving a BBBJ is 100% and of getting BBFS is maybe 60% without any negotiation. YMMV.
I am not sure that going back to the bar to report the issue to the mamasan or manager does any good. In your example, if you had gone back to the bar right away with the girl in hand, mamasan might have given your barfine back or offered you another girl of your choice or she might not have. That's not a good position to be in if the response was the latter, but at least you would know for certain what kind of bar you are dealing with.
... The mamasan did what I expected her to do and the most I expected really. She went directly to the girl, clearly pointed me out and took her aside to talk to her about it. I assume the topic had to be the same one I talked to the mamasan about. LOL. The girl was put on notice. I have seen that girl coming and going in the Plaza 2-3 times since. Never with a customer, btw, but maybe mostly she uses the ST rooms in Nana Plaza.
I would never take a second girl on the spot after getting scammed by another one in a bar. I would just go to another bar.
And there is a technical reason I never ask, demand or expect a bar or any other managed venue in Thailand to give me a refund. It can only be between the girl and me in the context of an, "I will give you X amount of baht IF you do this for me" kind of negotiation. Oh, if the bar wants to make a magnanimous gesture to do it they can. But it happens to me so rarely and the money on the line at that point so minor the money isn't important.
Ah, but you might think the point is to punish or penalize the scammer, right?
Well, technically, since 1992 the government of Thailand has asked bar, brothel, massage shop, etc owners NOT to penalize girls or give refunds to customers who expect to be provided with bareback/no condom sexual activity. That would be me.
And that is even if it is after fair and square negotiation for it and even if a version of such a thing is spelled out on a menu, such as "BBBJ+CIM." Another major reason never to Pay Upfront, while we're on the subject.
That is what the 100% Condom Use movement in Thailand was all about. And, as far as I know, it has not been officially abolished. Not that condoms were required for every sex act, but that any girl at any time for any act and for any reason could demand one and not be penalized or the bar give a refund for her requiring one. That is so even if your brothel, MP or go-go bar girl suddenly demands that you wear a condom to jerk yourself off no closer than 10 feet from her left ear.
Now, it did not come to that in the room with my scammer. But that is all any Thai girl working in a managed venue (not a FL) needs to say was the reason she did not have sex with me if it came to her word against mine.
There has been a small surge of talent outside the traditional areas if you are on your game. Try the bigger bars in the W District, On Nut and Phra Khanong. The ones I have seen / chatted with in On Nut are pretty dismal, the ones at W District are OK and I played hide the sausage with one I snagged on Soi 71. Just smile and nod, you will know who they are.
I used to get plenty in Thong Lo, but I was younger and better looking. I'm sure that with this weather cramping my style, in the interests of science, I will head over there too.
BMoreDog69
09-23-19, 02:31
So, I have a beard. It's not long, and I try to keep things trimmed to prevent too much irritation, but I think that Asian ladies are; A) not used to DATY in general, with their Asian BFs; and B) younger ladies (especially shaved) are somewhat sensitive to the irritation from a beard. This is why I like ladies that are not too young, as I think they have more experience with the pleasures of DATY, and they are more experienced with farangs with beards. There are no guarantees here, but you make choices to increase your odds. This is why I love Crazy House. The girls are less shy (if they are getting naked in the bar) and I can see what I'm buying. Frankly, the average good looking Thai 30 year old is pretty hot to me, so I'm easy to please in that way. I really don't want a 20 something from Bacarra that is just going to lay there like a rug.
One thing I try to do is motivate a lady with repeat business. I'm usually in town for a week, or so, and I try to hunt as soon as I arrive to maximize the number of potential visits she might get from me, if I'm happy with the service. I think there is a bit of an "art" to mutually picking a lady in a gogo bar. You want a lady that picks you, and you like as well. If there is anything for her at all, I find it leads to a better experience overall. I bar fined the same lady (AOM) from CH almost every night my last trip. She was fun, and genuinely nice, but I think she was looking for a farang BF to help her get away from the gogos.
As for scammers, they are like death and taxes, and unless it's really bad, I wouldn't press things too far with the bar, unless you're not concerned about burning any bridges. The reality is that the ladies and bars are like cable TV and cell phone providers. We pay a bunch of money, and usually things are OK, but if there is a problem, the customer service is next to non-existent. Switching companies (bars) is pointless as they all have their good / bad ladies.
Scammers are everywhere, and it isn't like all the scammers are at Scammers A-gogo. I think ET found a happy medium by saying something to the mamasan, and leaving it there. After all, the bar doesn't care too much as long as they keep getting the barfine, and lady drink profits, from the girl. In fact, a hot girl that gets kicked to the curb before the session is over can make them more money as she can come back to the bar sooner, and get another BF or more lady drinks.
I have typically only done gogo bars for take out, with occasional soapies and oilies, but my last trip I saw some serious lookers on the street around Nana. I had always avoided them out of concern of stories of the ladies trying to drug your drinks to rob you in the hotel. However, I may dip my toes into that pool if I get to visit again, later this year. We'll see how it works out. If I do, I will certainly report back here.
I felt it was time to give my Soi 4 street girl Naam, another visit. Have not seem her for over 3 months (hardly was in Bangkok). Always a great GFE and wonderful feel pussy. Got there and met Joom immediately who is a always there and a friend of Naam. Joom says sorry Naam is pregnant already, has Farang BF and they got married. Oh fuck! Another of my regulars gone. One other girl on the street looks sort of acceptable but I did not try. Went to look in a few Nana bars. I see there are now 2 Twister bars, with Twister BKK added to the left ground floor. Had a look and also in Bill Board. Bill board had a big party. Girls were dressed up a la Victoria's Secret slightly (so some had wings on). Junk food like Pizza and chips etc. Was being served too.
Annoyingly hard to see girls at the back on the rotating stage. Some really great asses on display at the front. Faces were harder to tell because the lighting is so dreadfully poor (and my eyesight is getting old). However I know that not many have a really pretty face (some above average though). From right underneath can see how broad most of the noses are even with nose job. Could not really pick any girl I could be sure of being happy with under the difficult circumstances. Tits can't tell either because covered too much. Had a peak in Diamonds with better lighting and some topless girls. Nothing that amazing for a pretty face.
Started to walk back to Cowboy, but decided to take a look in Thermae for fun. Was absolutely packed with big queues to get a drink. Heaps of Asian guys circulating clockwise. Did not really see Farangs in the circulating throng. Was surprised that 2 right hand side girls were actually quite good looking although lighting in Thermae is also a little subdued and of a tone that seems to make girls look better than they do once they are outside. Finally I see on left side a girl with light and pretty face (at least as far as I could see in that lighting). I had my incorrect glasses on (intended for computer work). She assures me that she likes Farangs and is not scared of them in the slightest. So I took her away for short time.
She was 30 YO or so. Her body was okay Tits small as expected and not saggy. Belly scar from a baby, but not a really heavy one. Ass okay Unfortunately big pussy Bush. If in a gogo bar, I probably would not have even called her over. Off to my Hotel.
Showered separately, the first suspect sign. She did not want to kiss more than a peck. Claimed to have injured her tongue while brushing her teeth. Ha ha. (I am Skeptical). She did not tolerate DATY for that long before complaining of hurt. Ridiculous! I was going incredibily soft and I have just shaved very smooth taking significant time. Was bothersome to have to get her Bush out of the way. No one complains about my DATY that fast, and hardly ever unless the girl has injury from her own pussy shaving. Most girls get horny even if reluctantly. So how am I going to get turned on. She has admitted to being quite inexperienced by now. A hairdresser by day in Ramkhamhaeng. In Thermae with a group of her friends / Colleagues. I doubt she has fucked many Farangs. She says she can do a BJ. So the BBBJ is actually not bad. Very slow and soft as I like. Dick goes up. So put on condom and try to fuck. Her pussy does not feel good for some reason like its hard to get in there very deep. Pussy is not gripping the dick at all, yet check with fingers finds no obstruction. It is possible deep down they could be problem like stitched too tight since fingers can only reach 4 to 5 inches and dick is somewhat longer. Anyway my dick is not enjoying the feel (after some beautiful feeling fucks at SW and Doki Doki in earlier days and even a bargirl from Five Star). So naturally the dick is starting to sag and her looks are not that massively hot especially with big Bush to keep me excited. I am oldish now. Dick is quite insensitive. Things have to go right for me to enjoy, maybe not like when I was 35 YO. Soon realised there was no way the fuck with her was going to work, and she was not even moving her body like she wanted it.
So yet another poor session from Thermae. In truth I have managed to cum with some of my girls from last few years at the Thermae, certainly not all, but not one of them was good enough to ever consider repeating. So that's it. Can't see any reason to ever go to Thermae again. My success rate is just too poor. Basically batting zero for last few years in terms of being really satisfied and considering it not to be a waste of money. Its for a different sort of customer, young Asians I guess. Maybe they don't care if girls have weak experience, lack of skills, big Bush, etc. Or maybe the girls can perform a bit better. I am sure I have had a bad string of luck with my choices, but don't see how to rectify that. If girls were dancing nude on stage, under good lighting, like at some bars, I could choose way better. Maybe could choose better with a long interview process but I detect that the girls hate long discussions and too many questions, generally. They want to know pretty quick if you will take them. In a gogo bar, I can manage to have a very long consideration and interview process before BFing. It works better and I have a much better success rate. MPs can be hit and miss too if they have plenty of dud girls at the venue. So venue becomes important. Had plenty of dud girls in Soapies in recent years too, with the odd really good one.
So it must be me. I am put off girls easily, and dick just doesn't work with too much adversity. The condom of course is the start of the adversity but can be tolerated with top performing girls with really hot looks. Never was a problem with my favourite Crazy House girls, for example.
So my advice, if you are an older Farang with a non sensitive dick like me, and need things to be going pretty much right with girls ability, attitude, looks, and body, then Thermae is a very suspect hunting ground, where can get very inexperienced girls and with low skills. Did not find many "horny" girls from there. More interested in quick money mostly these days.
Later I took a regular bar girl (several times in last 2 years). She was real horny and claimed to have had no fuck for a while. She came extra fast from DATY within 2 minutes, as she claimed her pussy had been quite deprived lately. Never found her that difficult to cum, and always likes the DATY. Gave me a good BBBJ and also a tit fuck since her tits are big (has gained a little weight). Also her pussy is very beautiful to look at which is nice for me, not just for fucking. Her landing strip above is very short and smooth shaved round the sides of the pussy to above the clit level.
Time to give the dick a day off maybe now. To make sure I am really horny again.I gave up on Thermae years ago. Performance, attitude, and pricing, none of the three work for me. It's a great place to go for a laugh. You still see some characters in there, but it's an Asian bar now and has been for years. Paying close to or more than 100 USD for substandard performance? You got to be kidding me.
In reality they may not be, but that is how psychology works. Men always covet something they don't have or cannot get.The whole point of coming to Thailand was you could get just about anything you wanted at a very reasonable price. That's why so many of us moved here years ago. You didn't "covet," you just did.
They do with me.You must be willing to pay what the Asian dudes do. And what are your performance standards?
You must be willing to pay what the Asian dudes do. And what are your performance standards?Performance standards? What is this the Olympics? I'm not hiring a professional, I'm hiring some chick to do what I want. So that's my standard. My back hurts too much? Climb on top and Ill tell you what to do next. Its all about me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend, or to fall in love, or even a regular as doing the same chick twice is a burden to me. This what I want, how much. No do. OK, extra XXXX? I do.
And I'm willing to pay whatever I, meaning me and me alone, think is reasonable, because I can. I'm not in this lovely country to spend my time obsessing about some hooker getting an extra $10 out of me. If she has the look I want, then I pay, simple as that. If she doesn't, then she isn't getting her chance. And I am mighty particular. Last night I popped into Thermae and the girls were waving at me to get my attention, probably because I am in there so much just chilling and having a soda and laughing at the foolish way folks act in there. But the ladies know it takes a special someone to get my attention.
And I have all the time in the world to get what I want. I'm not desperate and I surely look a lot better than most of the falangs I see in Thermae.
Blanquiceleste
09-23-19, 16:38
The whole point of coming to Thailand was you could get just about anything you wanted at a very reasonable price. That's why so many of us moved here years ago. You didn't "covet," you just did.And now you don't. Boo hoo.
I was chatting with another BM about my very short trip to BKK last week. 3 days I shacked up with a girl I know from before, one I had met through TF. On Friday I went down to Thermae at around 11 pm and hung around for an hour watching the crowds milling about rehearsing for prom night. 5555. Then I went and approached a girl I liked and we were out in 15 minutes. She first started with 3 K ST. I said I only like to go LT. She said OK you take care of me. I nodded and we were out. I stayed at Shangri La, so it is quite ride back, but no complaints. Back in the room, no hassles with service. No rush. She stayed well into the day. When I was ready to leave for the airport around 1 pm she even wanted to come to see me off at the airport. I politely refused, kissed her and gave her the money and sent her on her way. And returned to SG in time for the F1 qualifiers.
Hey guys,
This is my first message on this forum. So I'm visiting Thailand in one month and Singapore after that for a longer time so I hope to provide good reports by then and RTFF.
So far I have read a lot of stuff so I already have my girl friendly hotels reserved, price ranges in mind and everything. The only thing I don't understand is the most stupid one, but from looking specially at those YouTube videos is. How the hell do you get a Gogo girl you like that is dancing on the stage? Am I supposed to smile, wink at them or do they have some kind of ID that I can tell to the mamasan to get them down and then pay the barfine? Really sorry for such a stupid question, but I don't seem to find a proper guide or explanation other than "you drink with a girl that you like, and if you want you pay the bar fine and take her with you".
This is the first time I have ever heard of a girl complaining of pain from DATY. That is virtually impossible unless you use your teeth.A girl I used to visit got fungi and told me clients doing DATY or just touching with their fingers was just painful as fuck, even though she enjoys it a lot.
Hey guys,
This is my first message on this forum. So I'm visiting Thailand in one month and Singapore after that for a longer time so I hope to provide good reports by then and RTFF.
So far I have read a lot of stuff so I already have my girl friendly hotels reserved, price ranges in mind and everything. The only thing I don't understand is the most stupid one, but from looking specially at those YouTube videos is. How the hell do you get a Gogo girl you like that is dancing on the stage? Am I supposed to smile, wink at them or do they have some kind of ID that I can tell to the mamasan to get them down and then pay the barfine? Really sorry for such a stupid question, but I don't seem to find a proper guide or explanation other than "you drink with a girl that you like, and if you want you pay the bar fine and take her with you".
A girl I used to visit got fungi and told me clients doing DATY or just touching with their fingers was just painful as fuck, even though she enjoys it a lot.Each girl has a small tag with a number on it, usually pinned to their bikini bottom. You can ask the mamasan to bring the girl to you by referring to the number or as you said, smile and she may come down. If you want to sit and talk with her, she may ask for a lady drink (she gets a commission). Or you can directly negotiate. The price will include a bar fine (upward of 600 baht) and the girl's fees (short time or long time), which varies among bars and also according to your negotiation skills. I have not been in BKK for a bit. So my guess is short time (1 hour) will be at least 2000 baht and long term upward of 3000 baht. Short term is usually one hour with one shot unless you negotiate; long time will be a few hours with at least a couple of shots. Some of them try to sneak out in 2-3 hours. Just watch out. You have a choice of taking her to a short time hotel or to your own hotel. Hope that helps!
You must be willing to pay what the Asian dudes do. And what are your performance standards?I can only comment on one fairly in demand Thermae gal who goes almost exclusively with Japanese.
(I am sure I would be rejected by a certain percentage of gals on left hand side, because some never bother looking at me when I pass by, though the culture of the place is so weird these days. The girls try to act "demure" per Asian customer preferences).
Anyways. For the one gal I can comment on.
I pay her going rate with no haggling.
(which is 3 K short) . Once she stayed all night I gave her 5). She has told me she will raise prices on guys she doesn't really want to go with (but then has to go with them if they accept).
What she gets from me is nice treatment, even a BFE. She gets her orgasms.
What I get is BBFS, no clockwatching, a great tight snatch and a lovely mouth/ tongue that treats me with "special care" (cannot comment how it treats others).
I can only comment on one fairly in demand Thermae gal who goes almost exclusively with Japanese.
(I am sure I would be rejected by a certain percentage of gals on left hand side, because some never bother looking at me when I pass by, though the culture of the place is so weird these days. The girls try to act "demure" per Asian customer preferences).
Anyways. For the one gal I can comment on.
I pay her going rate with no haggling.
(which is 3 K short) . Once she stayed all night I gave her 5). She has told me she will raise prices on guys she doesn't really want to go with (but then has to go with them if they accept).
What she gets from me is nice treatment, even a BFE. She gets her orgasms.
What I get is BBFS, no clockwatching, a great tight snatch and a lovely mouth/ tongue that treats me with "special care" (cannot comment how it treats others).3 K is going rate for short time for a Thermae girl?! You mean that's what Japanese pay?
3 K is going rate for short time for a Thermae girl?! You mean that's what Japanese pay?No that's what he pays. He probably doesn't care what anyone else pays. I surely don't.
And now you don't. Boo hoo.
I was chatting with another BM about my very short trip to BKK last week. 3 days I shacked up with a girl I know from before, one I had met through TF. On Friday I went down to Thermae at around 11 pm and hung around for an hour watching the crowds milling about rehearsing for prom night. 5555. Then I went and approached a girl I liked and we were out in 15 minutes. She first started with 3 K ST. I said I only like to go LT. She said OK you take care of me. I nodded and we were out. I stayed at Shangri La, so it is quite ride back, but no complaints. Back in the room, no hassles with service. No rush. She stayed well into the day. When I was ready to leave for the airport around 1 pm she even wanted to come to see me off at the airport. I politely refused, kissed her and gave her the money and sent her on her way. And returned to SG in time for the F1 qualifiers.Yes, and now you don't. That's the point. So what did you remit for LT? 5 k? 6 k? 7 k? Yes, all three amounts are quite a bit of money IMHO.
For those who laughed when I told my story about the time I fucked the midget from Soi Cowboy, here's a photo of a somewhat similar midget. What guy in his right mind wouldn't fuck that?Did you fuck that one as well?
If so well played.
Only five more to go.
Performance standards? What is this the Olympics? I'm not hiring a professional, I'm hiring some chick to do what I want. So that's my standard. My back hurts too much? Climb on top and Ill tell you what to do next. Its all about me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend, or to fall in love, or even a regular as doing the same chick twice is a burden to me. This what I want, how much. No do. OK, extra XXXX? I do.
And I'm willing to pay whatever I, meaning me and me alone, think is reasonable, because I can. I'm not in this lovely country to spend my time obsessing about some hooker getting an extra $10 out of me. If she has the look I want, then I pay, simple as that. If she doesn't, then she isn't getting her chance. And I am mighty particular. Last night I popped into Thermae and the girls were waving at me to get my attention, probably because I am in there so much just chilling and having a soda and laughing at the foolish way folks act in there. But the ladies know it takes a special someone to get my attention.
And I have all the time in the world to get what I want. I'm not desperate and I surely look a lot better than most of the falangs I see in Thermae.Who said anything about a GF? Performance standards? Of course. I expect the gal to be able to give a good BJ, be able to provide FS, monitor and adjust to my wants and needs. Those are performance standards. When the price was 12.50 - 25 USD, I didn't have high expectations, but for 100 USD? You "darn tootin'" I expect more, a lot more.
Believe me, no one is "special. " We are all Johns like any other.
Whose desperate? Those of us that live here really have all the time in the world. We also for the most part, have higher expectations and are not willing to pay what tourists and frequent visitors so, especially when on most occasions it will pale in comparison to what we used to have. And please, I moved over her in my early 30's, so I know what it is like to one of the "better looking" farangs in Thermae and mind you, that was back in the day when there were no Asian dudes. BTW, still weigh exactly the same as I did then and probably in even better shape.
There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.
Ass Addict
09-24-19, 07:27
There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.How much are they asking for short time in Palace?
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There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.That is quite a testimonial from you on the looks of those girls, Goatscrot. Would you say there were ten girls in Palace that ranked that high in looks? Twenty? Fifty?
Aside from how they looked, do you have any other first or second hand knowledge intel on those 8's, 9's and 10's with regard to asking prices, getting prices, level of service and so on? Did you take one? Did you get a vibe or a direct statement from any of them that they only go with Asian customers?
GetJiggyFullon
09-24-19, 12:09
Hi guys,
This forum has been very helpful for mongering in Asia. I have been reading lot and have had good experience. But every now and then I feel like trying my own spot and see how good it is (and I got lucky this time). Finished clubbing at Insanity (about 3 am) and was heading home (towards Soi 1 via the Hospital road). At the bend there is Harmony Massage in a lane. Skip that and keep walking. You will see a 7 eleven and right next to it is a small lane. At this corner I saw a mature Thai lady with good boobs. So I approached her for massage and she said $400 for 1 HR (which is standard). She takes me to the shop in the back and up we go. Now the place is OK in terms of ambience, infrastructure etc. Typical cubicles with mattress on the floor and curtain on the door. Walls were 3/4. So I can hear what's happening in the back.
Anyways the massage started and it was a good massage (fair pressure etc but then I was not after a solid massage at 3 am [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk). On the flip I can now see her pretty face and those nice set of boobs. Massage finished and she said done. And I was like hang on. The guy next door is having sex (I can hear it) and you are saying massage done. I didn't get up just stayed there and she figured I want more. So she starting pinching my chest and tickling. Well I said cool I will do the same to you and then slowly started the fun. First came the Nice DFK, lot of foreplay, hugging kissing etc and then boom boom. None of us had a shower before the massage so we didn't go for Oral (need certain hygiene for this). But it was a good session. All up for THB1500 (inclusive THB400 for the massage). I told her I will see her again on Wednesday and this time for same price I want body body and naked from the get go. She is happy with that.
Location: Intersection of Soi 11 and Havana Social.
Blanquiceleste
09-24-19, 14:00
Yes, and now you don't. That's the point. So what did you remit for LT? 5 k? 6 k? 7 k? Yes, all three amounts are quite a bit of money IMHO.I gave her 4 K. And for me that is really not yet "quite a bit of money". In comparison, the girl I shacked up with for 3 nights in a row, I gave her 5 K all in. I know there is no logic to this, but I get what I want, and that is all that matters to me.
Believe me, no one is "special. " We are all Johns like any other.Sage advice. This is the one absolute truth every monger coming to Thailand must understand and accept.
Whose desperate? Those of us that live here really have all the time in the world. We also for the most part, have higher expectations and are not willing to pay what tourists and frequent visitors so, especially when on most occasions it will pale in comparison to what we used to have. And please, I moved over her in my early 30's, so I know what it is like to one of the "better looking" farangs in Thermae and mind you, that was back in the day when there were no Asian dudes. BTW, still weigh exactly the same as I did then and probably in even better shape.I think it is an assumption that frequent visitors are more desperate or have lower expectations than residents. There is no empirical evidence to this. As for paying more, naturally frequent visitors value their time more than the money they will fork out and hence are likely to pay more.
I envy you so much, 20 years back Thailand was paradise. And I am fortunate enough to have partaken during that golden era, although not as much as I did later in my life, as money came more easily and travel become more frequent. But for me, it still is a paradise, maybe a bit lesser than before but still so much better than some other places. LOL.
Blanquiceleste
09-24-19, 14:02
There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.Wait a minute! This goes totally against the grain of ET saying that one cannot find a single 8+ in all of Pattaya. I wonder how he is going to react. Oh wait. He already did.
.......A girl I used to visit got fungi and told me clients doing DATY or just touching with their fingers was just painful as fuck, even though she enjoys it a lot.I would hope that such a girl would tell me before hand that she has a yeast infection. I would decline DATY. That can cause rashes and itching to the mouth.
Wait a minute! This goes totally against the grain of ET saying that one cannot find a single 8+ in all of Pattaya. I wonder how he is going to react. Oh wait. He already did.I believe I have said I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of P4P girls in Pattaya I would consider worth paying for sex. And I did accept that there could be a go-go bar or 5 where "top quality girls" in terms of looks work behind closed doors but mysteriously are just not seen by me walking from the bars with customers on their way to a hotel room.
Palace is no doubt one of those bars. And, who knows, maybe I would have to add two or three fingers on my other hand to account for the total of 8's, 9s and 10's Goatscrot saw in there recently.
Then again, whether I would pay money to have sex with them is irrelevant if they have no intention of going with a non Asian in the first place or providing Real Sex/True GFE to anyone for any price anyway. I will be interested to hear whatever Goatscrot has to say about either of those issues.
And now you don't. Boo hoo.
I was chatting with another BM about my very short trip to BKK last week. 3 days I shacked up with a girl I know from before, one I had met through TF. On Friday I went down to Thermae at around 11 pm and hung around for an hour watching the crowds milling about rehearsing for prom night. 5555. Then I went and approached a girl I liked and we were out in 15 minutes. She first started with 3 K ST. I said I only like to go LT. She said OK you take care of me. I nodded and we were out. I stayed at Shangri La, so it is quite ride back, but no complaints. Back in the room, no hassles with service. No rush. She stayed well into the day. When I was ready to leave for the airport around 1 pm she even wanted to come to see me off at the airport. I politely refused, kissed her and gave her the money and sent her on her way. And returned to SG in time for the F1 qualifiers.Good to read a positive report on a Thermae girl. I was beginning to worry about that place. I like freelancers and would like to visit it on my trip next year.
Captain Solo
09-24-19, 23:57
Forget about her cooking.
Have the bros ever found a Thai girl as pretty, lively, charming, eloquent as this girl Pailin?
Where in Bangkok or anywhere in Thailand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9rDq2gGmg
I think it is an assumption that frequent visitors are more desperate or have lower expectations than residents. There is no empirical evidence to this.Really. Well if you came here once a year, would you go back to your hotel 3 nights in a row without a companion. How about 5? If there was no adult scene, would, or it got too expensive, would you even come.
There is one notable exception, and that is Palace GoGo in Pattaya. Was there this weekend and I can saw the lineup in there is the best I have ever seen in my 20 plus years of going to GoGos. 8's, 9's, and 10's abound. Just stunning. Place was packed and we were the only two non-Asians in the place.Goat,
Why so few Farangs? Girls hate Farangs, perform badly or not typical Farang spec. ?Very few Farangs in Rainbow 2 bar in Bangkok so I guess similar reasons. Not many girls were really my spec.
I would certainly frequent a bar with 10 point girls to my spec unless Farangs were not welcome really.
Do all the girls have surgeries or some natural beauties?
I've had her. She used a different name though. Or, rather, I've "booked" her as you did, through ThaiFriendly. About a month ago. She is notably older, heavier and thicker than her pics but not too objectionably so. Those pics are probably 5-6 years old, imo. Had a baby.
In our pre-booking discussion, BBFS was a no go and I told her that was fine if she would agree to BBBJ+CIM. She did agree to it, "no problem". 2000 (as I recall) for a leisurely, no hurry ST. Nicely shaved pussy. Said she likes and is fine with DATY. Fairly fluent in English.
She was pleasant on arrival, even early as I recall. She went on and on about how we could get together every now and then to go jogging at the nearby park, which is something we had in common anyway. But when we got down to it she still pulled out a condom and set it next to us. I asked why since we were only doing DATY and BBBJ+CIM. No answer, just a smile. She seemed to be rather indifferent to DATY. Mine at least. Ok. Then on to the BBBJ+CIM.
"no problem" turned into a big problem..ET did you met that girl again after your first encounter?
She texted me something a few days ago and I remembered that post from last year and it appears it's the same girl.
She said she can do a nice BJ and will swallow for short time if I take her.
I wonder if you trained her or if she finally understood how to do a "proper" BJ.
Or if she say that just to conclude the deal.
ET did you met that girl again after your first encounter?
She texted me something a few days ago and I remembered that post from last year and it appears it's the same girl.
She said she can do a nice BJ and will swallow for short time if I take her.
I wonder if you trained her or if she finally understood how to do a "proper" BJ.
Or if she say that just to conclude the deal.If she is now stating that she knows how and will give a proper BBBJ+CIM and Swallow, then she has definitely improved her game since I saw her. Or maybe she is just inspired to do for you what she seemed incapable or unwilling to do for me. That was a year ago.
No, I only saw her walking on my soi a few days after our session, chatted politely, but I never booked her again.
Could be only to close the deal. That was what I felt she'd done with me a year ago. If I were to book her again I would stress that if she did not complete the service as described this time I would give her no money at all, not even taxi fare. Simple as that. But that is because I have already experienced a bad session with her. I can't say every punter should set it up that way for their first session. After all, YMMV.
Goat,
Why so few Farangs? Girls hate Farangs, perform badly or not typical Farang spec. ?Very few Farangs in Rainbow 2 bar in Bangkok so I guess similar reasons. Not many girls were really my spec.
I would certainly frequent a bar with 10 point girls to my spec unless Farangs were not welcome really.
Do all the girls have surgeries or some natural beauties?Truth be told, only the less desirable ones gave us the time of day. The rest are focused on the vast numbers of young Asian punters in the bar. Seems to be a set price and I would imagine that they don't have to "work" very hard to complete their job. The dudes looked like star struck teens looking at their first Playboy.
That is quite a testimonial from you on the looks of those girls, Goatscrot. Would you say there were ten girls in Palace that ranked that high in looks? Twenty? Fifty?
Aside from how they looked, do you have any other first or second hand knowledge intel on those 8's, 9's and 10's with regard to asking prices, getting prices, level of service and so on? Did you take one? Did you get a vibe or a direct statement from any of them that they only go with Asian customers?I would say that 75% of the gals in the bar were way above average. The top 10% were just stunning. And I don't use that word often when talking about P4 P gals. I did not take one and I probably never will. My sneaking suspicion is that they would not provide the kind of intense GFE bordering on PSE that I like. If they did, I would gladly pay the certainly inflated prices. And yes, I got a vibe that most were only interested in Asian dudes. Similar vibe to current Thermae.
How much are they asking for short time in Palace?I believe the non-model gals are asking 3 k and the models go up from there.
Truth be told, only the less desirable ones gave us the time of day. The rest are focused on the vast numbers of young Asian punters in the bar. Seems to be a set price and I would imagine that they don't have to "work" very hard to complete their job. The dudes looked like star struck teens looking at their first Playboy.Other day I was in Bill Board and Diamonds. Billboard had a party happening. Caused girls to be over dressed like underwear models. Not many poor figures for girls on stage but only 2 or 3 I would call "pretty" for the face. A lot of faces are ordinary (or slightly above average) and really nose jobs don't help much or often hinder. Tits? Well one can't tell when girls are over dressed.
I then checked out Diamond (s). Girls were average maybe slightly below BB standard. A couple of topless girls had nice tits. That's all. An Asian guy seated in front of me was being shown a calculator and I believe they had typed 1500 plus 4500. Now 4500 can't be LT and 1500 can't be short time. I am guessing 1500 was for drinks and 4500 was all in price for BF and ST. Ha ha. I hope 1500 was not BF for a Coyote, but feasible. One certainly would not want to pay up front and then receive no service like I received no service from a Rainbow 2 girl (I suspect she wanted to Blow me only due to period. Not many BJs are good enough to really excite me. Needs an expert).
For ET:
At Shark in Cowboy all the coyote girls are BFable and may fuck for similar prices to the gogo girls. However Coyote BF is 1500 (a big risk). Difference can be spotted. Gogo girls have see through bra with nipples on display so can see how good the tits are. With Coyote girls no way to tell what tits are like with double layer bras. I never tried a Coyote in Shark as yet (probably due to 1500 BF), but last time one very pretty one was quite tempting (to take the huge gamble).
Just re-united with my tall skinny Lao girl regular "Tweetie Pie" (she has big eyes or seems that way), very sweet. She once worked in Orient where I got pulled in by her face. Don't know if anyone else here would recognise the tall skinny shape with slender waist. I pay her like an MP price, so it a lot cheaper than a bargirl and I know what I am getting, no restrictions although I don't try to have her ass (conservative girl sort of). She was horny (maybe no sex for weeks just returning to Bangkok from Laos) so popped in DATY in under 2 minutes. Another pop in cowgirl. Rode quite energetically with a variety of rhythms. She is quite passionate yet I am way older than her dad. Maybe its just I am nice to her and we can converse although she has zero English. I think she likes deep cock. has had a baby (no problem for me since tits small but not saggy). No rush at all. She needs me for regular money input badly. Pic gives an idea of her type of figure that is hot for me. Sorry about blurred rushed pic (I can't show good pics including the face). Seems to motivate her once she is in my room, but would like her to be more available (sometimes gets too busy with life's hassles). I feel having a collection of regular girls to choose from is an ideal option for getting a fair price, getting a known good performance, but having enough girls not to get bored. Lost my top performer regular from Soi 4 not long ago to a Farang Sponser. So sad as my regular list keeps shrinking. Fortunately I can do one girl several days running without getting bored, when pretty, hot and sexy.
I have not been able to find another as pretty girl in MPs in the last year or two, some merely quite nice looking. I enjoyed Doki Doki girl recently but was expensive. The exchange rate for my country is very poor too. Fortunately I get to work multiple countries.
Hard for me to understand how different my experience can be with my regulars and with say a Thermae girl. The difference is so vast. Its basically about being pretty, enthusiastic and pussy having a good feel. Still some girls can be really good on the first try (including my remaining regulars). It just seems to happen less and less as years go by.
Houston Player
09-26-19, 11:16
Other day I was in Bill Board and Diamonds. Billboard had a party happening. Caused girls to be over dressed like underwear models. Not many poor figures for girls on stage but only 2 or 3 I would call "pretty" for the face. A lot of faces are ordinary (or slightly above average) and really nose jobs don't help much or often hinder. Tits? Well one can't tell when girls are over dressed.Syzgies this is simply a very poor evaluation of Billboard last Saturday night. You must not have stayed long enough to really see many of the girls and I don't blame yo for that because it was way too crowded because of the 4 year anniversary party with free snack food. However for you to insinuate that the talent was not good is just bad information to be passing along to the members here. I'm sure most of the hot girls were busy grinding on someones lap.
I saw several girls who are hot as fuck. #10,23, 203,236 and 814 those are the ones I saw but they didn't last long on stage. I don't think many were being barfined because the barfines were double the normal rate of 750 and 1000. There were several other barfinable girls even by you're standards. Even the tub had at least 4 girls that looked good enough to barfine.
Now like I said I don't blame you for not hanging around because there were way too many dudes there for the 2 for one beers and cheap bar brand alcohol. However your report is very misleading about the talent level of the girls who were in the bar.
Syzgies this is simply a very poor evaluation of Billboard last Saturday night. You must not have stayed long enough to really see many of the girls and I don't blame yo for that because it was way too crowded because of the 4 year anniversary party with free snack food. However for you to insinuate that the talent was not good is just bad information to be passing along to the members here. I'm sure most of the hot girls were busy grinding on someones lap.
What I said was the figures looked good. Tits could not tell as were covered too much. Not many faces appealed to me that much but that is my difficult taste. I have always admitted that Billboard is the best bar in Nana in recent times. Some guys maybe in heaven who do not have such tough standards for the face. Plenty of quite broad noses and fake noses that just don't appeal to me that much. Lighting on the stage is poor for my challenged eyesight. That makes it hard for me to see the faces properly. I was not dazzled by it all, at all. Ha ha. Yes girls have fancy costumes and fancy makeup, but truly beautiful to stunning faces, not that many I am afraid. Maybe 3 on stage were interesting me. Yes plenty above average.
Sorry I am so tough to please. I do have fond memories of a really excellent girl from this bar but was two years ago. I have not BFed there recently so don't have a fair view of performances.
You want to refute me, then post some pics of your stunners would be a great way. Sure the girls are hot and sexy but really pretty for me, not many. Just my taste man. So many guys equate a young girl with a hot body to "Stunning" without worrying about the face much at all.
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I then checked out Diamond (s). Girls were average maybe slightly below BB standard. A couple of topless girls had nice tits. That's all. An Asian guy seated in front of me was being shown a calculator and I believe they had typed 1500 plus 4500. Now 4500 can't be LT and 1500 can't be short time. I am guessing 1500 was for drinks and 4500 was all in price for BF and ST. Ha ha. I hope 1500 was not BF for a Coyote, but feasible. One certainly would not want to pay up front and then receive no service like I received no service from a Rainbow 2 girl (I suspect she wanted to Blow me only due to period. Not many BJs are good enough to really excite me. Needs an expert).
For ET:
At Shark in Cowboy all the coyote girls are BFable and may fuck for similar prices to the gogo girls. However Coyote BF is 1500 (a big risk). Difference can be spotted. Gogo girls have see through bra with nipples on display so can see how good the tits are. With Coyote girls no way to tell what tits are like with double layer bras. I never tried a Coyote in Shark as yet (probably due to 1500 BF), but last time one very pretty one was quite tempting (to take the huge gamble).
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I would be inclined to think the 1,500 baht you saw on the calculator at Diamond Bar in Nana Plaza was for the barfine, same as for the Shark Bar Soi Cowboy Coyotes you mentioned. And the girl's quoted fee for ST was 3,000 baht, the total then being 4,500 baht.
I cannot say this is true in Soi Cowboy bars, but I have found the Nana Plaza girls whose barfine is the inflated 1,500 baht amount to be much more amenable to the kind of Real Sex/True GFE you know I am all about. I mean more amenable to agreeing to it upfront in the bar. Hense, the gamble or risk factor being less, but only if you broach the subject upfront in the bar before you agree to pay that inflated 1,500 baht barfine. I have no idea how paying that inflated barfine effects the outcome in a "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" situation.
And I don't mean to imply there is a reliable consistency to the above premise. Just that in my experience the 1,500 baht barfine girls in Nana Plaza bars (generally referred to as "Special Girls" in Nana Plaza bars and as Barfineable "Coyotes" in Soi Cowboy bars, I believe) will tend to be more amenable to agreeing to my requirements in that regard than the regular, say, 700-800 baht barfine girls in Nana Plaza.
Syzgies this is simply a very poor evaluation of Billboard last Saturday night. You must not have stayed long enough to really see many of the girls and I don't blame yo for that because it was way too crowded because of the 4 year anniversary party with free snack food. However for you to insinuate that the talent was not good is just bad information to be passing along to the members here. I'm sure most of the hot girls were busy grinding on someones lap.
What I said was the figures looked good. Tits could not tell as were covered too much. Not many faces appealed to me that much but that is my difficult taste. I have always admitted that Billboard is the best bar in Nana in recent times. Some guys maybe in heaven who do not have such tough standards for the face. Plenty of quite broad noses and fake noses that just don't appeal to me that much. Lighting on the stage is poor for my challenged eyesight. That makes it hard for me to see the faces properly. I was not dazzled by it all, at all. Ha ha. Yes girls have fancy costumes and fancy makeup, but truly beautiful to stunning faces, not that many I am afraid. Maybe 3 on stage were interesting me. Yes plenty above average.
Sorry I am so tough to please. I do have fond memories of a really excellent girl from this bar but was two years ago. I have not BFed there recently so don't have a fair view of performances.
You want to refute me, then post some pics of your stunners would be a great way. Sure the girls are hot and sexy but really pretty for me, not many. Just my taste man. So many guys equate a young girl with a hot body to "Stunning" without worrying about the face much at all.
P.S. Some girls' numbers that appealed to me were not necessarily the same as your numbers. We can all have a different taste. I like slim and slim face too. Round and flattish faces don't work for me.
I would be inclined to think the 1,500 baht you saw on the calculator at Diamond Bar in Nana Plaza was for the barfine, same as for the Shark Bar Soi Cowboy Coyotes you mentioned. And the girl's quoted fee for ST was 3,000 baht, the total then being 4,500 baht.
I thought I saw a plus sign on calculator and both numbers appearing at same time, but its is just possible I was mistaken and your assessment is right. I forget if I saw a 6000 total come up or if they did not get to a final figure. I still think was a Plus, 80% but I must face that I am not certain. Happened quick. I still suspect 4500 for ST for newbie guy. Would not be a shock these days
What I said was the figures looked good. Tits could not tell as were covered too much. Not many faces appealed to me that much but that is my difficult taste. I have always admitted that Billboard is the best bar in Nana in recent times. Some guys maybe in heaven who do not have such tough standards for the face. Plenty of quite broad noses and fake noses that just don't appeal to me that much. Lighting on the stage is poor for my challenged eyesight. That makes it hard for me to see the faces properly. I was not dazzled by it all, at all. Ha ha. Yes girls have fancy costumes and fancy makeup, but truly beautiful to stunning faces, not that many I am afraid. Maybe 3 on stage were interesting me. Yes plenty above average.
Sorry I am so tough to please. I do have fond memories of a really excellent girl from this bar but was two years ago. I have not BFed there recently so don't have a fair view of performances.
You want to refute me, then post some pics of your stunners would be a great way. Sure the girls are hot and sexy but really pretty for me, not many. Just my taste man. So many guys equate a young girl with a hot body to "Stunning" without worrying about the face much at all.Yes, you have already made it clear at least 100 times that you will choose a girl with a small nose and mediocre skinny body over a girl with great tits and ass who has by far the best body in the bar.
Yes, you have already made it clear at least 100 times that you will choose a girl with a small nose and mediocre skinny body over a girl with great tits and ass who has by far the best body in the bar.Yes nearly all girls were in the slim / skinny category and some had great asses. Tits I would not know (well covered on the stage). I like a great body and a good face as well. Those that don't have finicky attitudes for the face will be in heaven.
Smoothy gave us a pic of Billboard girls previously, a group pic where could see the faces in good lighting. Only 1 or 2 of the girls were actually pretty (for the face), right? When asked we all picked the same girl to be the prettiest one, and she was not stunning either. The rest were a bit ordinary. That was probably quite representative, although its possible the standard of girls has improved further over that time. It amazes me however that girls can seem prettier when they are in very dim lighting. Last Saturday party night, even the girls in the bath area had tits covered when I was there. That was not a nice surprise.
Look, I still say Billboard has gotta be the best bar in Nana, for my taste. Suits Asians, Farangs and Indians, all types, excepting maybe if you like buxom girls then they are a bit scarce. If they had girls dancing nude, and improved the lighting a bit, I would be there often I am sure. I gave up Crazy House long ago due to its decline in standards.
This is almost a mongering report but not quite. I was not barfining tonight.
Went to Corner Bar because my ex favourite Crazy House waitress works in Corner Bar again. To be here, you have to be a guy who likes old time rock music (mainly), because they have a band playing suited to expats. In case you don't know, its on Cowboy corner with Asoke opposite Country Road.
They have several hostesses, more than a dozen I think and these girls are bar-fineable. One very tall post-op LB as well, and LBs are getting so common even in cowboy these days. 5 Star, as example, has a posse of post-ops (in addition to naked dancing girls) who only seem to pester the Asian customers. In Corner bar was the same. The ladyboy went to Asian customers.
The band before midnight specialised in heavy metal and heavy rock, e. G. Deep Purple, Van Halen, AC / DC, Jimmy Barnes covers, even some Pink Floyd though and someone requested Zombie. Dolores O'Riordan (The Cranberries). The guitar players were okay If a bit too loud. The singers were pretty woeful for pitch and diction, and gave the impression of yelling a bit more than singing. So while I may have liked the song (with original artists) I did not like the rendition. The entire band wore hats a bit like AC / DC used to hide their faces a bit (or because its cold or trying to be cool).
The band after midnight was a contrast and vastly more superior to my ear. The volume of the band was reduced a little, and singers had much more pitch ability, the young guy singer clearly was a top English speaker (became intelligible). He even had a pretty good attempt at Bohemian Rhapsody. So chalk and cheese. I won't bother to turn up till nearly midnight next visit, so I can get the good band of the two. Strangely this band largely did not wear hats.
If you don't care about sound quality, the yelling and screaming band before midnight maybe okay Some customers liked it. Wasn't worse than what I experienced once in Soi 7/1, perhaps was "Bangkok Beat" where band was so awful when I went there.
The hostesses, other than mine (short with good sized tits) were largely skinny types with almost no tits (the ones nearby that I saw), however I found a couple of them quite pleasant to look at. Met the mamasan "Taa" who seemed a very nice lady, where some other bars have awful mamasans. My hostess apparently has quit from KazyKozy due to being unable to get on with the gay mamas an (or papas an if you prefer. But Thais would call a gay man a mamasan even if not a ladyboy) at Kazy who seemed to be a quite annoying type when I had been there, in terms of being and uncalled for nuisance to farang customers than may not really wish to have to deal with over the top gays, or any mamasans for that matter.
So yes I would go back for a bit of fun, but not really before midnight I think is better. May BF next time. Drank too much alcohol today, and had a good encounter earlier so did not need a fuck.
The band I used to prefer in Bangkok was the Filipine band at Check Inn99 but long gone now. They had 4 quality girl singers, and one guy soso for singing.
Member #4733
09-26-19, 20:37
At Shark in Cowboy all the coyote girls are BFable and may fuck for similar prices to the gogo girls. I guess it was April 17th when I payed three ladydrinks to a most beautiful girl in Shark. Then I found out that she was a Coyote. She was not barfineable. Mamasan confirmed. I left. So beware. In Tilac all Coyotes were barfineable but god knows why they are coyotes. Most of them are not very pretty. Just an opportunity to ask higher prices. I liked Tilac to drink with some ladies. Music isn't too loud.
Are you saying that the waitress staff is bar fineable at a certain time or any time? Wondering if this place attracts FL's like the old Bangkok Beat or any of the dancers and coyotes after they leave their work on Soi Cowboy. If so, what is BF? I have been to Country Road but did not like their house band plus the action, at least before midnight, is woeful. LB's appear to be everywhere now. It's a plague!
This is almost a mongering report but not quite. I was not barfining tonight.
Went to Corner Bar because my ex favourite Crazy House waitress works in Corner Bar again. To be here, you have to be a guy who likes old time rock music (mainly), because they have a band playing suited to expats. In case you don't know, its on Cowboy corner with Asoke opposite Country Road.
They have several hostesses, more than a dozen I think and these girls are bar-fineable. One very tall post-op LB as well, and LBs are getting so common even in cowboy these days. 5 Star, as example, has a posse of post-ops (in addition to naked dancing girls) who only seem to pester the Asian customers. In Corner bar was the same. The ladyboy went to Asian.
Member #4698
09-26-19, 21:59
The band I used to prefer in Bangkok was the Filipine band at Check Inn99 but long gone now. They had 4 quality girl singers, and one guy soso for singing.The Philippines are known for their quality cover bands. It is a national industry. At City of Dreams Casino in Manila, 5 or 6 different cover bands rotate sets all night long. I find it very enjoyable to relax at the bar there, have dinner, and take in the scene after a session with a hot MNL girl.
Yes, you have already made it clear at least 100 times that you will choose a girl with a small nose and mediocre skinny body over a girl with great tits and ass who has by far the best body in the bar.Thats not the only thing that gets repeated ad nauseum. Too bad, there used to be useful info on here.
Note to visitors and newbies: Despite the longwinded critique about live bands in the Nana / Cowboy areas, here is the real picture.
They suck. They all suck. If your idea of fun is hanging around a steamy sweaty bar loaded with drunken Yobs listening to some kid from Laos rote singing the words to Smoke on the Water then by all means go for it. But flying 10000 miles for garage bands that isn't as good as the one in the strip joint outside an Okie tuck stop isn't my idea of fun, and I doubt its yours, unless so are so bored with the nightlife that you need to deaden yourself.
Thays not to say that there isn't good music, but you are in Thailand, go to a Thai place. Those aren't in the faranag ghetto though. Some folks need to get out of there.
Here is another Thermae report for you newbies, valid up to Sept 26. Tues, Weds and Thurs are the nights I prefer, less crowded. The Chinese have been scarce, but Golden Week is coming so next week is going to suck, crowd wise. There have been some very young looking girls there, usually they being watched / trained / covered by one of the formal / informal Mamasans conveniently scattered in the crowd. If you know what's up in the place, you know the ladies I mean.
I actually almost took a young lady oout on Wed, but some scared Japanese kid got to her first. I should have waited around, he could have drilled my pilothole LOL. So I wandered over to Soi 7/1 and snagged me a DSL coming out of the Wood Bar. Excellent. Then some Mango sticky at my local, and sleep.
Steve 9696
09-27-19, 02:03
That is quite a testimonial from you on the looks of those girls, Goatscrot. Would you say there were ten girls in Palace that ranked that high in looks? Twenty? Fifty?
Aside from how they looked, do you have any other first or second hand knowledge intel on those 8's, 9's and 10's with regard to asking prices, getting prices, level of service and so on? Did you take one? Did you get a vibe or a direct statement from any of them that they only go with Asian customers?Sorry for the noob like question but not a Bangkok expert. Where is "palace" and does it have a more complete name. Google is not helpful. Thanks.
Sorry for the noob like question but not a Bangkok expert. Where is "palace" and does it have a more complete name. Google is not helpful. Thanks.Palace go-go bar is not in Bangkok. It is on Walking Street in Pattaya. There was a small flurry of conversation about it on this thread because Goatscrot mentioned it a couple of times as having one of the best lineups he'd seen anywhere in Thailand for the past 20 years, 8's, 9's and 10's abounding. That was notable enough to spend at least a little time with it here in the wrong thread. I think if I'd seen such a sight in a Bangkok go-go bar I might have automatically assumed there was some kind of photo-op, promotion or special event going on where non barfinable models had been hired for the evening just for show and to hustle Lady Drinks, No Touch, No Barfine, No Sex allowed. Therefore, to have someone as discerning as Goatscrot say that about a Pattaya go-go bar was quite notable.
Of course, if and that could be a big IF (don't know from first hand knowledge) those 8's, 9's, and 10's in that particular Pattaya go-go bar don't go with non Asians and don't provide what I consider Real Sex/True GFE, which for me is essentially either BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM, then in my case and perhaps many others they might as well be those kind of no sex models only for show and to hustle Lady Drinks.
Akk Dynamite
09-27-19, 06:05
Can someone please send me some contacts of girls whi provide good service. I am in Bangkok today and free and want to have great time.
I thought I saw a plus sign on calculator and both numbers appearing at same time, but its is just possible I was mistaken and your assessment is right. I forget if I saw a 6000 total come up or if they did not get to a final figure. I still think was a Plus, 80% but I must face that I am not certain. Happened quick. I still suspect 4500 for ST for newbie guy. Would not be a shock these daysI should add that in my experience it is a snap to get the "Special Girls" who require the inflated 1,500 baht barfine in Nana Plaza go-go bars to come down on their 3,000 baht asking price. The barfine might be 1,500 baht but it is not all that unusual for me to get the girl to agree to 2,000 baht for her, 2,500 baht at the most. Either they are well aware that paying 4,500 baht total for a ST will drive away too many paying customers or they will get a cut of that barfine so as to offset a lessor asking price. Or, as I have suggested on this subject here before, there is a prestige value for them to remain on that "Special Girls" list.
Yes, most of the "Special Girls" with that inflated barfine cost are younger, baby-free and better looking. But if part of the reason a girl qualifies for the "Special Girls" list is because she closes more barfine agreements with customers, gets more repeat customers to return to the bar to buy drinks and take her again and never gets a complaint, then imo that goes a long way to explaining why they have been more inclined to agree upfront to providing me with the kind of Real Sex/True GFE I negotiate for in the bar. And for generally no more or not much more of a total cost then I would pay for a much less rewarding session with a 700-800 baht barfine "regular" girl.
Far from being put off or spooked by it, whenever I hear a Nana Plaza go-go girl who is sitting with me is one of those "Special Girls" for whom a 1,500 baht barfine is required rather than the usual 700-800 baht barfine, my interest in negotiating upfront with her in the bar is very much increased and more likely than not to produce the result I want.
Are you saying that the waitress staff is bar fineable at a certain time or any time? Wondering if this place attracts FL's like the old Bangkok Beat or any of the dancers and coyotes after they leave their work on Soi Cowboy. If so, what is BF? I have been to Country Road but did not like their house band plus the action, at least before midnight, is woeful. LB's appear to be everywhere now. It's a plague!I don't think gogo dancers and Coyotes are going to go there (unless you take them there yourself), and quality of the bands varies from mediocre to woeful. Lets face it, they could probably get a better gig elsewhere if they were really good, but even the filippino band I mentioned was not able to pull even people every night in the end. They might have been more successful in Cowboy but there are rif raf customers to put up with.
I am not intending to advertise this place, more so to say if you want go to listen to the music in this Corner Bar, definitely after Midnight. Just too shitty before that IMHO. You can take your girl from some other bar in there or can see if any hostesses appeal. Definitely some very skinny girls in there. It maybe that girl attitudes in there can be better than some other bars, but girls may believe their bodies are not good enough to work a gogo or too shy. Drinks seemed to be 180 Baht, to cover the entertainment etc.
Yes Hostess girls can be barfined, I doubt there is a certain time. Without the hostess girls to augment the band, the venue would probably not work although had a pool table too. I have not been in Country Road, in recent memory. Scared they would have Country and Western music which I really hate. Perhaps not.
Far from being put off or spooked by it, whenever I hear a Nana Plaza go-go girl who is sitting with me is one of those "Special Girls" for whom a 1,500 baht barfine is required rather than the usual 700-800 baht barfine, my interest in negotiating upfront with her in the bar is very much increased and more likely than not to produce the result I want.I have not been taking these 1500 Baht BF girls. Why do think negotiation goes better? Can it be because they get fewer customers willing to stump up the 1500 BF?
My favourite scenario remains a no negotiation, where a price was not even stated which still happens these days (believe it or not), little fucking chance if a mamasan arrives. Easy for me without asking for special requirements. I just want a girl who is really into Farang dick. I am willing to give a girl a little bonus if she was great (which means well above average). I am nearly allergic to mamasans, and believe any negotiations with girl are likely to go worse, once a mamasan arrives. Busy body mamasans really put me off. I just want them to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off mostly. There are exceptions of course. A good experienced girl can negotiate on her own if she needs to.
Sex with condom is still working for me with some girls, if right fit and they move right, but not all girls, and for a new girl that is very hard to predict. So I do understand why guys might be negotiating for BBFS up front. I let a regular bargirl go recently (made the decision to drop her from regular list) purely because condom was not working for me any more with this particular pussy (a bit looser than average). An extra tight pussy can also be a problem for me if has wrong feel and condom is needed. A dick not 100% hard can go in much easier with no condom, and then can grow harder as the fuck progresses, feeling is right. That is my experience. No condom is also way better for feeling with long duration sex and one of my regulars expects good stamina from me to last quite an extended time.
At Billboard anniversary party was tough for me to spot stunners under poor lighting. Rather than debating just how many were stunners or really pretty, and there are some, it is easier for guys to go look at some example pics and apply their own preferences.
https://twitter.com/billboard_bkk?lang=en
For me the girl with the single ponytail is stunning on twitter, and some others are quite pretty. Girl with brown hair and blue eyes looks good and another. Just my taste. If I had seen this girl with the ponytail I would have tried to get her, little doubt. The best girls could have been taken after 9 PM when I visited.
https://twitter.com/billboard_bkk?lang=en.Thanks for the link.
Has anyone spent time with the pinup girl that features in all the banners with the blue eyes?
I'm still burning after my bad experience with a girl from there, however they sure do have some talent.
At Billboard anniversary party was tough for me to spot stunners under poor lighting. Rather than debating just how many were stunners or really pretty, and there are some, it is easier for guys to go look at some example pics and apply their own preferences.
https://twitter.com/billboard_bkk?lang=en
For me the girl with the single ponytail is stunning on twitter, and some others are quite pretty. Girl with brown hair and blue eyes looks good and another. Just my taste. If I had seen this girl with the ponytail I would have tried to get her, little doubt. The best girls could have been taken after 9 PM when I visited.The best girls were taken after 9 pm when you visited? I'm not sure what you mean by that. So when you were there, all of the best girls were still there?
If one of "the best girls" is not in the bar at the time, one will likely be returning soon from doing a short time with a customer. Regardless, there isn't a single girl in those photos that I would not fuck. There are definitely some girls working at Billboard I would not fuck, but they are not in those photos. Would I like to fuck the girl with the pony tail? Sure. (she's a little flat chested for my taste, but she's a pretty girl) But if she wasn't around, I wouldn't hesitate taking any one of about 10 of those other girls. Then I can look for the pony tail chick a different night if I want. I care more about going with the flow and enjoying the experience each night rather than fretting about getting the one particular girl I consider to be the best of the best every night. Would I like the best of the best? Of course. If there is a girl I like but she is with another guy, I will note her number and get her a different night, but I will still take a different chick home. I will just hook up with the best available girl who happens to catch my eye that night.
The girl with the blue / green contacts has the face of a porn star. Very photogenic face.
No that's what he pays. He probably doesn't care what anyone else pays. I surely don't.I'm well aware that the going rate is more like 2. 5 K If you haggle on the right hand side with a scraggler, maybe you will get 2 K.
I paid her 3 K the first time because I wanted to try it out and it turned out well enough that when I return, I don't mind paying her going rate.
That make sense to you? Typically speaking, I almost never overpay what the going rate would be. In her case I made an exception and I got lucky. Wouldn't necessarily do it again with another. (unless she really really got my curiosity going for whatever reason).
The band before midnight specialised in heavy metal and heavy rock, e. G. Deep Purple, Van Halen, AC / DC, Jimmy Barnes covers, even some Pink Floyd though and someone requested Zombie. Dolores O'Riordan (The Cranberries). The guitar players were okay If a bit too loud. The singers were pretty woeful for pitch and diction, and gave the impression of yelling a bit more than singing. So while I may have liked the song (with original artists) I did not like the rendition. The entire band wore hats a bit like AC / DC used to hide their faces a bit (or because its cold or trying to be cool).
The band after midnight was a contrast and vastly more superior to my ear. The volume of the band was reduced a little, and singers had much more pitch ability, the young guy singer clearly was a top English speaker (became intelligible). He even had a pretty good attempt at Bohemian Rhapsody. So chalk and cheese. I won't bother to turn up till nearly midnight next visit, so I can get the good band of the two. Strangely this band largely did not wear hats.
If you don't care about sound quality, the yelling and screaming band before midnight maybe okay Some customers liked it. Wasn't worse than what I experienced once in Soi 7/1, perhaps was "Bangkok Beat" where band was so awful when I went there.A rather unusual report from you Syz, but quite nice to see a report that did not focus on your regular rant about the type of girls you like, nose jobs etc. I always read your reports with great interest. Very few have the stamina on reporting the Bangkok mongers nightlife like you. Thanks for valuable info in numerous reports. Thai rock cover bands can be very bad, I agree. But there are some real good ones to be found. They can not compare with the excellent Philippine bands that plays the venues in Wanchai bars in Hong Kong and Singapore bars and nightclubs, but Hillary 4 (or was it 3.) also have good Philippine bands sometime. Philippine cover bands are world class! The best rock cover band in Thailand I have found in Witherspoon Sports Bar in Soi Buakow in Pattaya. Excellent skills and plays rock covers almost 100% perfect. Let's face it; most people can not tell a good band from a bad. They are drunk and happy and focus on the other sex. Not the music. But some times you just want to indulge in the music, if the band is good. If not, it is just a pain in the ass.
BkkVistor77
09-27-19, 21:54
I was in BKK last week and experienced various services available to one looking for a bit of fun.
Firstly I'd like to say that Tinder is a pretty good way to get in touch with FL girls if you don't want to go out and can't be ass going through the bar, thermae thing. In past years I've probably met more normal girls on Tinder, I did meet one girl -more on that later, but now it seems to be nearly exclusively working girls. I was in touch with some really hot girls that didn't work out, including a woman from Kenya who looked amazing and I really wanted to fuck. Hopefully she'll be there next time.
So my first stop was a Freelancer who I met on tinder last time I was in BKK but didn't manage to hook up with the last time. She came to my hotel on Soi 22, really short girl, good looking, late 20's and claimed she had the best ass in BKK! I wouldn't argue to be honest, very sexy little thing and good service, BBBJ which was not mind blowing, but great GFE sex in various positions, and finished doggy staring at her great ass. 2000 baht, very cool woman, would repeat.
Later that night I went cruising, walked all around Soi 4, saw some very good looking women but no one who took my fancy. Walking around near Nana BTS I saw some really hot black women hanging around those outside bar cart things, one of whom was early 20's and beautiful, I hesitated, walked on, changed my mind and went back for her 3 minutes later only to find she was already gone, agrah!
I then went on to Thermae. I always find it pretty absurd in there, it's just too much, too many girls, too many mongers walking around, weird super market vibe. There are some very very attractive women in there, I did do the round twice, and chatted to a few girls, early 20's and hot. The ones I spoke to were asking for 2500 - 3500 but I didn't like having to negotiate with so many other girls and mongers literally listening in on the conversation.
Went back to hotel and ordered take in again, from Smooci this time. Jubliee arrived one hour later dressed to kill, serious babe this one. She was dressed up in a black night dress, great body, curvy, big naturals, and super slutty looking in the best possible way. 2 shots in an hour, I paid 4000 for two hours but literally couldn't fuck anymore. Great BBBJ, GFE with lots of passionate kissing and sex in many positions. Third time now using Smooci and every time it's been great service, it's a little on the expensive side but I really like the fact you can see what services the girls provide and a rating system. Would repeat.
The next day I hooked up with an old flame who I also met a few years ago on Tinder, an early 30's hot MILF from BKK who does massages in one of BKK's higher scale hotels. She has a boyfriend now but was more than happy to come and spend the night with me at my hotel. Amazing sex and great company. God I love Thai women!
Next day was a busy one and wore me out! Morning session with the old flame, walked her to the BTS and came back to hotel for a little rest. Around midday I decided to check one of the BJ bars, I walked passed Kasalong but the girls outside were pretty damn average. I have been to Kasalong a few times and had great experiences but I thought I'd try something different so I went to try the Wood Bar. I was greeted by a 20's something tallish thin woman, who I believe called herself Anna. She is a 'consultant' which basically means hotter than some of the other girls and more expensive. Paid the mamasan 1000 baht, and went upstairs with her into a relatively nice room, washed up and sat down on a pretty comfy reclining chair. Anna proceeded to work it in every which way, great technique although maybe a little too quick for my taste. She alternated her skillful mouth work with some amazing HJ, including using some nuru gel to great effect. She then started blowing me again deep throat and I blew in her mouth.
Later that day I had a date with a normie I met on Tinder. Nice girl, spoke good English and we had some nice chats. I asked her back to the hotel after walking around a bit and getting something to eat but she played coy and acted a little shocked. We parted ways but I was to meet up with her later.
I wanted something nasty, so I went to Snow White. Big mistake! I have had a few really good experiences there before but this time it was just horrible. My fault entirely, I picked a dud, I don't know why, but when the girls lined up I fixed on this short MILF type who I thought looked like she's be a great fuck, pretty sure her name was Bee Bee. I should have taken more time. As soon as we started going upstairs I realized I'd made a mistake. She wasn't very attractive, and didn't give great service. BBBJ not great, too much teeth, and I couldn't bring myself to fuck her. She ended up rimming me while I wanked and it ended up being OK I guess. I think I paid 1800 baht.
Get back to the hotel and my Tinder date starts texting saying she wants to come over, hahahaha, how could I refuse? Ended up having pretty good sex with this girl even though I was pretty much worn out. She was on the round side, which I like, and although she was a little shy I really enjoyed the session.
She left and it being my last night and all, I just felt I had one more shot left in me. Got back on tinder and matched with a really cute 22 year old, punky style, nose ring and tattoos, small tight body and slutty smile. She came over an hour later, great girl, super cool and friendly, and good service. GFE, although average BBBJ, we fucked in various positions, which I enjoyed a lot, blew covered inside her doggy style. 2500 Baht.
If she is now stating that she knows how and will give a proper BBBJ+CIM and Swallow, then she has definitely improved her game since I saw her. Or maybe she is just inspired to do for you what she seemed incapable or unwilling to do for me. That was a year ago.
No, I only saw her walking on my soi a few days after our session, chatted politely, but I never booked her again.
Could be only to close the deal. That was what I felt she'd done with me a year ago.I was chatting only a few words with her when she told me this. I believe it's part of her speech now, maybe she does it for real, I don't know. She seems to be a bit quick to get upset also.
Anyway I've lost interest with her since I linked her with your experience from last year.
She said that she worked in a massage shop before but didn't want to name the shop.
She looks very much like a girl that had a picture on the Hana massage website (soi33), I don't know if that place is still open or not.
Let's face it; most people can not tell a good band from a bad. They are drunk and happy and focus on the other sex. Not the music. But some times you just want to indulge in the music, if the band is good. If not, it is just a pain in the ass.Yes. Not to mention the "tone deaf" customers. Thais have been used to singers with bad pitch for 30 years (of my experience). The Thai stars that sing on TV only have to look good, they don't really have to have singing ability. e.g. a Thai would say her favourite male singer was "Jay Jeterin" who to my ear was absolutely pathetic. I noticed this 30 years ago, but western world is starting to go that way a bit, where the video became more important than the sound. That is why I said some people could enjoy the band of yellers before midnight. To a musician though, quite crappy singers and crappy sound balance, but okay Guitar playing.
Philippine bands seem to be expected to have a much higher standard.
Can someone please send me some contacts of girls whi provide good service. I am in Bangkok today and free and want to have great time.The best ones are on streets surrounding Sanam Luang after midnight. Head on over there at about 11 pm, its a short walk from the MRT.
TesterTester
09-28-19, 11:39
Yes. Not to mention the "tone deaf" customers. Thais have been used to singers with bad pitch for 30 years (of my experience). The Thai stars that sing on TV only have to look good, they don't really have to have singing ability. e.g. a Thai would say her favourite male singer was "Jay Jeterin" who to my ear was absolutely pathetic. I noticed this 30 years ago, but western world is starting to go that way a bit, where the video became more important than the sound. That is why I said some people could enjoy the band of yellers before midnight. To a musician though, quite crappy singers and crappy sound balance, but okay Guitar playing.
Philippine bands seem to be expected to have a much higher standard.Well said. I agree with Sygies' analysis of the local music scene in BKK.
Yes. Not to mention the "tone deaf" customers. Thais have been used to singers with bad pitch for 30 years (of my experience). The Thai stars that sing on TV only have to look good, they don't really have to have singing ability. e.g. a Thai would say her favourite male singer was "Jay Jeterin" who to my ear was absolutely pathetic. I noticed this 30 years ago, but western world is starting to go that way a bit, where the video became more important than the sound. That is why I said some people could enjoy the band of yellers before midnight. To a musician though, quite crappy singers and crappy sound balance, but okay Guitar playing.
Philippine bands seem to be expected to have a much higher standard.If you want to hear cover bands play western music, the Philippines are the best at that with the Indonesians not far behind. Thais are not good at that. If you want original music rather than cover band music, Indonesia is the best of the three.
Thai music is quite unique. I think some of that Isaan music is awesome. They don't sing well in most of those songs, but they are fun. I love it when they play Isaan dance music in the gogos because the girls normally go wild during those songs. My brother is married to a Thai woman and she hates that Isaan music, she prefers Thai music like Palmy. But I can hear that style of music anywhere, so I prefer that Isaan music.
The worst singers are American rappers. They can't sing a note. Zero talent in my opinion.
Today I just happened to be passing Thermae. Outside a girl was sizzling hot and pretty, dressed very tight to show off her tits and fab body, not the usual conservative stuff. Was 8. 30 Pm and she was just heading to the stairs to enter Thermae. My god I was tempted to go right after her. However a little voice in my head was saying "Syzy, don't waste your money yet again, she probably does not even like Farangs". Hottest girl I have seen at Thermae in a very long time (however of course I have not been there much and certainly not this early).
I agree with the other poster that it is hard to interview girls inside standing next to all their friends. "Can you give me deep tongue kissing, deep throat, and BBFS with CIP please, or at least CIM as a minimum?" I suppose one could whisper. "Do you like Farang cock and how many farangs have you fucked recently?" Ha ha. In fact I never tried asking girls in there anything quite so explicit. I put things more nicely.
I forced myself to move on without even going inside for another look. I am sworn off this place. Stopped in LB Pharmacy to buy a couple of things, and then thought it is a long while since I passed the BJ shops. So traversed Lolytas and Kasilong. 3 girls sitting outside the former. One was almost a pass, but not good enough to be fuckable. Kasilong had about 5 or 6 girls outside, not one was even slightly good looking, so did not give any further thought. I am crazy maybe. Need a good face even for a BJ, and preferably a hot ass too.
Now my Soi 4 girl is gone and reportedly pregnant (not to me I think), however today was surprised. At early time on Saturday night, before many regulars even arrived, I found 3 girls good looking enough to consider. First one seemed to have really great looking tits lightly covered, possibly fake, but if so an excellent job. Her face was a bit white from makeup and deadpan. Ended up picking a girl at Nana Hotel drive corner of Hooters. Name Mai from Bangkok. My usual formula. Quite tall at least 5 foot 6 wearing cut off jean shorts showing just a little ass, and tight top, skinny, smallish real tits, and no hint of being a ladyboy whatsoever despite the height. No surgeries of course. Expression on the face has to be right though. Nice ass once clothes came off. Quite a few tats on her back. In fact my last 3 Soi 4 girls have all been tall and slim.
Was not quite the same GFE as my previous regular Naam, but fairly promising for a "first date". Has a baby already but I could not tell. Pussy feeling was very nice indeed (not all pussies feel great to me). Depends on size of pussy and whether it grips the dick at all, and fits cock for whole length. She tolerated DATY for a while but was not getting into it, as most girls usually do. Her BBBJ was really good, slow soft and with great ball tickling. I played with her pussy at same time. However she seemed to get horny during the fucking and eventually started to touch herself around the clit area, started gyrating a bit and moaning (yes could be acting but it was not there immediately from the start). My conclusion is she does like Farang cock okay. Normally I have difficulty to cum, but not really tonight.
Yes will repeat and will incentivise for a bit more GFE next time. Much cheaper than a Thermae girl and better experience than what I usually get at Thermae. Hopefully nice tongue kissing will be possible. She seemed to know Naam and other girls I know on the Soi. Working part time as supposedly a student of accounting, but now is term break.
I like meeting girls outside on the street, even at night I can see their looks far better than in a dim bar like Billboard or even in the strange lighting of Thermae that makes girls look a bit better than they will look back at the Hotel room somehow. Not sure is low light or light of a strange colouring at Thermae. Perhaps yellowish light.
Today I just happened to be passing Thermae. Outside a girl was sizzling hot and pretty, dressed very tight to show off her tits and fab body, not the usual conservative stuff. Was 8. 30 Pm and she was just heading to the stairs to enter Thermae. My god I was tempted to go right after her. However a little voice in my head was saying "Syzy, don't waste your money yet again, she probably does not even like Farangs". Hottest girl I have seen at Thermae in a very long time (however of course I have not been there much and certainly not this early).
I agree with the other poster that it is hard to interview girls inside standing next to all their friends. "Can you give me deep tongue kissing, deep throat, and BBFS with CIP please, or at least CIM as a minimum?" I suppose one could whisper. "Do you like Farang cock and how many farangs have you fucked recently?" Ha ha. In fact I never tried asking girls in there anything quite so explicit. I put things more nicely.
I forced myself to move on without even going inside for another look. I am sworn off this place. Stopped in LB Pharmacy to buy a couple of things, and then thought it is a long while since I passed the BJ shops. So traversed Lolytas and Kasilong. 3 girls sitting outside the former. One was almost a pass, but not good enough to be fuckable. Kasilong had about 5 or 6 girls outside, not one was even slightly good looking, so did not give any further thought. I am crazy maybe. Need a good face even for a BJ, and preferably a hot ass too..Could there be an uptick in the quality when rents are due near end of month, girls not seen rest of time? Less stigma than walking street.
GettingFedUp
09-28-19, 20:37
Today I just happened to be passing Thermae.A report! The celestial bodies must be aligned, or someone has hacked your account.
Please expand on (a) distance between top of thighs (b) nose shape (c) her preference in instant coffee (d) whether she was low-carb organic gluten free and isotonic.
The Nana girls are dogs all the time. Just coincidentally, I was walking through there on Saturday night and they were more horrid than usual. I consider the streetwalkers in that area to be the dregs, and the guys that pick them up either don't know any better, can't afford any better, or are just blind, desperate or so hideous themselves that that's the best they can do. To be fair, the ones by the car park you can at least look at without vomiting. Start heading down the street and watching them deteriorate into simple lumps of two-legged ugliness.
Turn a does seem to get a bit more crowded at the end of the month and you'll find more part-timers there. Since the girls pay the club to be there, I assume that for many girls, it's not worth it to be there for only a night or so.
Could there be an uptick in the quality when rents are due near end of month, girls not seen rest of time? Less stigma than walking street.That is a thought that did not occur to me at the time. I was thinking of turning up early being a factor. You are more likely right. Definitely there exist part time hookers doing other work or studies. Girls definitely find themselves short at end of month. In the old days at Thermae, it was mostly part timer girls, and that tended to make them more enthusiastic. They could be choosy as well re which guys they liked, however not being Asian was not a negative in those days.
Definitely some best lookers in bars can be part time free lancers as well.
My brother is married to a Thai woman and she hates that Isaan music, she prefers Thai music like Palmy. But I can hear that style of music anywhere, so I prefer that Isaan music.
The worst singers are American rappers. They can't sing a note. Zero talent in my opinion.Ha ha. You actually like Isaan slow songs? I had to try to tolerate them at Songkran time in the province.
My Mrs fortunately does not play too much Isaan stuff. She plays one Palmy song that I thought was great, so I searched for other Palmy stuff, and found I did not go for most of her songs overall, just the one so far. Something about crying over the same old story (but in Thai language of course).
ร้องไห้ง่ายง่ายกับเรื่องเดิมๆ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB8SLS02iUI
Sort of like a Dolores O'Riordan song, but a bit more dreamy. Enjoy! Its pretty good I reckon.
Today I just happened to be passing Thermae. Outside a girl was sizzling hot and pretty, dressed very tight to show off her tits and fab body, not the usual conservative stuff. Was 8. 30 Pm and she was just heading to the stairs to enter Thermae. My god I was tempted to go right after her. However a little voice in my head was saying "Syzy, don't waste your money yet again, she probably does not even like Farangs". Hottest girl I have seen at Thermae in a very long time (however of course I have not been there much and certainly not this early).
I agree with the other poster that it is hard to interview girls inside standing next to all their friends. "Can you give me deep tongue kissing, deep throat, and BBFS with CIP please, or at least CIM as a minimum?" I suppose one could whisper. "Do you like Farang cock and how many farangs have you fucked recently?" Ha ha. In fact I never tried asking girls in there anything quite so explicit. I put things more nicely.
I forced myself to move on without even going inside for another look. I am sworn off this place. Stopped in LB Pharmacy to buy a couple of things, and then thought it is a long while since I passed the BJ shops. So traversed Lolytas and Kasilong. 3 girls sitting outside the former. One was almost a pass, but not good enough to be fuckable. Kasilong had about 5 or 6 girls outside, not one was even slightly good looking, so did not give any further thought. I am crazy maybe. Need a good face even for a BJ, and preferably a hot ass too.For people who live in bkk, thermae is a dead fish. It's a place for east Asian tourists, who don't have time to find hot chicks, so just go in and find someone quickly. For me Thermae is worst place to find semi pros in bkk, it's always crowded, vibe is dead mostly and girls rarely perform well.
A report! The celestial bodies must be aligned, or someone has hacked your account.
Please expand on (a) distance between top of thighs (b) nose shape (c) her preference in instant coffee (d) whether she was low-carb organic gluten free and isotonic.Aha. I see you are a grumpy old sarcasm specialist with a grand total of 1 experience report. Some of us do post experience reports every time we try a new girl, and we all like detail in the report so guys can know whether the particular girl could be their style, without which it becomes a useless story.
For others: I checked the cart bars in Soi 7 last night opening quite early these days (before 10PM). 4 or 5 above average (for Bangkok) black girls were there, and one Thai girl that might have interested me had I not fucked already (other Thais I did not pay attention to). I expect it gets more busy later.
For people who live in bkk, thermae is a dead fish. It's a place for east asian tourists, who don't have time to find hot chicks, so just go in and find someone quickly. For me Thermae is worst place to find semi pros in bkk, it's always crowded, vibe is dead mostly and girls rarely perform well.I guess I don't really understand the bad rap Thermae gets from some posters here, especially in light of what most reports conclude is a "good" or even "great" session with a P4P girl.
Last night is a case in point. I cruised through Thermae about 9:45 PM. Second time around the horn I see the same very good looking, sexy girl on the right side that could easily have out shined every girl on the left side (for whatever that is worth) smiling at me. Tallish, light skin, enhanced boobs but not ridiculously so, lovely face, slender yet shapely, great lips and smile. I stopped and said Hello in Thai. She spoke English very well so that is how we continued our simple chat. Says she's from Chiang Mai but comes to Bkk to work. I was in no mood to cover all the issues and when she whispered "2,500 for ST" into my ear, this one felt like a good candidate to gamble on a "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach.
In the room, she could not have been sweeter and more fun. Naked, she was from head to toe everything that would have been barfined out of any go-go bar in Bangkok or Pattaya within minutes of arriving to start her shift. Shaved smoothly. No tattoos. No weird piercings. Soft yet firm body. Lovely face.
The service level? She insisted on showering with me. Not really my thing, but this was "go with the flow" night for me so, ok. She made it very sensual and fun for me even though I am not really into showering together. I get it; she wants to make sure her customer is as clean as she expects him to be. I went with it.
On the bed, she loved DATY, gave me a very sweet light massage, then a warm, wet and skillful BBBJ. Then she put on some room temperature KY and gave me a HJ for a while. Then put my dick between her silky smooth tits and back to the BBBJ.
Now, in MY CASE, I did not finish. Yes, after our shower she asked if I had a condom and said no problem she had one if I didn't. Yep, that is when I simply told her I would not be able to fuck and finish wearing a condom, but I'd had a vasectomy and could show her a recent medical check document. She said No Way but pleasantly so. Then I had to hear her repeat some of the most famous misconceptions about HIV transmission, whatever. Ok, ok, there will be no fucking for us tonight. BBBJ+CIM? Nope. She cannot finish a blowjob as a blowjob. Tried it once with a Korean guy a year ago and vomited. But she is good with getting me close and then converting it into a HJ. No, that would be a very sad finish for me. Well, then there will be no finish for me tonight. That's the accepted risk I take with "go with the flow and see what happens in the room."
HOWEVER, if I had been ok with wearing a condom for fucking and not particularly interested in having a blowjob finish as a blowjob instead of a handjob, as sooooo many posters report is the way they "go with the flow and see what happens in the room", I can't imagine that anyone, expat or tourist, who has spent upwards of 3,000 baht to 6,000 baht to be with a girl just like that one or more likely much less attractive than her (for only 2,500 baht and no rush at all in my room) would see it as a "dead fish" experience.
That is similar to the experiences I have had with most of the last half dozen or more better looking Thermae girls I have taken. I'm talking about the overall service level provided. The fact that I don't finish with them is all about my issue with not being able to fuck and finish wearing a condom and the fact that I would rather save my bullet to cum INTO the next girl I take rather than accept a BBBJ+NO CIM or a HJ finish.
But for anyone who is ok with LESS than that, with Covered FS and the like, getting one of the better looking girls in Thermae to go with me, a 66 year old farang, and a girl who really tries to deliver as much of a GFE or PSE as I have read described on these threads that were rated "great!" or almost so, I see no reason to avoid Thermae. The ONLY real challenge I have found in taking better looking Thermae girls for their relatively cheap 2,500 baht going rate is getting one who will agree to BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM for that rate or reasonably more. And, yeah, I might not be talking about the top 5% best lookers in the room, but certainly among the top 20% best lookers. I would say they are better looking than the descriptions I've read and the few photos I've seen of so-called PSE massage shop girls who, other than those who provide Anal, don't seem to deliver anything better than I have gotten from most good looking Thermae girls I've taken.
You actually like Isaan slow songs?.I don't like slow songs of any genre. As far as Isaan songs, I only like the type they play in the gogos. Those are far from slow.
I would say they are better looking than the descriptions I've read and the few photos I've seen of so-called PSE massage shop girls who, other than those who provide Anal, don't seem to deliver anything better than I have gotten from most good looking Thermae girls I've taken.In many massage places they let you have two shots. It makes a big difference for guys that not last very long.
I guess I don't really understand the bad rap Thermae gets from some posters here, especially in light of what most reports conclude is a "good" or even "great" session with a P4P girl.
Last night is a case in point. I cruised through Thermae about 9:45 PM. Second time around the horn I see the same very good looking, sexy girl on the right side that could easily have out shined every girl on the left side (for whatever that is worth) smiling at me. Tallish, light skin, enhanced boobs but not ridiculously so, lovely face, slender yet shapely, great lips and smile. I stopped and said Hello in Thai. She spoke English very well so that is how we continued our simple chat. Says she's from Chiang Mai but comes to Bkk to work. I was in no mood to cover all the issues and when she whispered "2,500 for ST" into my ear, this one felt like a good candidate to gamble on a "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach.
The service level? She insisted on showering with me. Not really my thing, but this was "go with the flow" night for me so, ok. She made it very sensual and fun for me even though I am not really into showering together. I get it; she wants to make sure her customer is as clean as she expects him to be. I went with it.
Now, in MY CASE, I did not finish.
But for anyone who is ok with LESS than that, with Covered FS and the like, getting one of the better looking girls in Thermae to go with me, a 66 year old farang, and a girl who really tries to deliver as much of a GFE or PSE as I have read described on these threads that were rated "great!" or almost so, I see no reason to avoid Thermae. Thermae is obviously good for some guys. Less so for difficult customers.
Doubtless some guys are choosing better or getting lucky, or getting a more enthusiastic performance one way or another. I just had a string of mediocre to weak performances, girls not fully relaxed to be with me.
Some girls are talking very nicely until comes time to put the dick in when they may seize up (go stiff legged) . Many have very low experience with Farangs.
How many wanted to DFK? Can't remember many. How many seemed horny and really onto it? How many had a fab all natural body? Yeh some liked the DATY but not the dick.
By the time I am your age and it is not far off I may well be needing exclusively BBFS like yourself. The ultra thins may not be good enough any more. If I was still 35, its possible I would be happy with Thermae girls. However never seem to get the full GFE or even close enough to it there these days. It is so much easier to do a girl not fully into it with no condom on and some lube.
BTW your girl sounds quite good, but hard to be sure till get the great feel of pussy on the dick. Not every pussy is equal.
I am having a better success rate with choosing Soi 4 girls lately, although very few are good looking. Sat night maybe better.
It's that simple really. Success rate for a good time matters. I always liked nudie bars because no shocks when clothes come off. A standing girl dressed in very revealing outfit is ok
I guess I don't really understand the bad rap Thermae gets from some posters here, especially in light of what most reports conclude is a "good" or even "great" session with a P4P girl.
Last night is a case in point. I cruised through Thermae about 9:45 PM. Second time around the horn I see the same very good looking, sexy girl on the right side that could easily have out shined every girl on the left side (for whatever that is worth) smiling at me. Tallish, light skin, enhanced boobs but not ridiculously so, lovely face, slender yet shapely, great lips and smile. I stopped and said Hello in Thai. She spoke English very well so that is how we continued our simple chat. Says she's from Chiang Mai but comes to Bkk to work. I was in no mood to cover all the issues and when she whispered "2,500 for ST" into my ear, this one felt like a good candidate to gamble on a "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach.
In the room, she could not have been sweeter and more fun. Naked, she was from head to toe everything that would have been barfined out of any go-go bar in Bangkok or Pattaya within minutes of arriving to start her shift. Shaved smoothly. No tattoos. No weird piercings. Soft yet firm body. Lovely face.
The service level? She insisted on showering with me. Not really my thing, but this was "go with the flow" night for me so, ok. She made it very sensual and fun for me even though I am not really into showering together. I get it; she wants to make sure her customer is as clean as she expects him to be. I went with it.I mostly agree with your points. Most girls (like you said on right side) are better looking than massage shop girls, but because they're not trained well, their service is quite weak. Also most of the time they're in hurry to leave. They're mostly used to the asian crowd, who most of the times come pretty quickly and are okay with whatever they get.
Saying that, I have a regular who I found out in Thermae. She is 28, pretty hot and now does way better BJ than she did when we first met (maybe because of experience). She only goes there on Friday and Saturday, most times I ask her to come at my place first and then she goes to thermae.
A report on my trip to the land of smiles. Thailand was never on my radar. Have been mongering for years (US, UK, Mex & Can) but was not aware of Thailand's treasures. Got a few books and started to do some research. Came across ISG and spent may hours continuing my research. Formulated a plan and made some reservations. Decided on low season, worked better for budget and timing and figured a good time to ease into such an endeavor.
Pattaya was to be my base of operation, bookending nights in Bangkok as transition to the flights. Made bookings using Agoda and Google Flights. Booked 6 nights at VT6 and found around trip for under $800. Figured with the close proximity of Nana, Cowboy and Skytrain to so many hotels in Bangkok, I'd wait until I had feet on the ground to make arrangements. Planned to take the train into city central, find hotel near Nana or Asok stations. Initially thought about finding a LBFM in Bangkok and offer her an all expense paid vacation in Pattaya. After doing many hours of reading, decided to go along with the prevailing opinion of why focus on one when there are so many available.
Well plans changed and I ended up in Bangkok four days sooner and later in the day. Flight and immigration was smooth and uneventful. Exchanged some cash and got something to eat on the lower floor of the airport. Head for the train station at the BKK airport. As I'm looking at the rail map to figure out my route, a very official looking lady with an ID badge says the train is not working. Offers to find me a car and asks me where I'm going. I make mistake number one, sort of. I tell her I don't have a hotel yet. See says she can help me with that too. Takes me over to little tourist info shop and shows me a binder full of hotels, tours and services for sale. After some back and forth negotiating we settle on $2000 baht for car and room. Paid the money at the booth, which I was a bit unsure about, but was given a receipt. I had two suitcases plus a carry on, it was door to door, so figured it was worth it and I did a good job for $60 US.
It was around 3:30 pm, I'm escorted to a new car with a bottle of water and a cute older female driver. Ride into the city was nice and relaxing, got to sight see and enjoy the water. Closer we got to destination, the worse the traffic got, but I wasn't driving and enjoying the view. Last 2 kilometers took over 20 minutes. Ended up near Ratchaprarop station at Cozy Villa Hotel, in name only.
Showed desk clerk my receipt and get checked in for only an additional $200 baht key deposit. Room was across the street and reached after walking through a restaurant, with my luggage. Not a normal experience for an American. Room was like a large closet, but was clean, had a bathroom and working AC. Figured I wasn't there for the room any and had a place to leave my bags.
Time to scope out my surroundings, check map and see where Nana Plaza is and decide to walk, it was just before sunset. Get to Nana before 7 pm, too early, but did walk around all three floors. Did get an offer from a very nice looking lady boy, which I politely decline. Those hands will give them away every time. Decide to go to Stumble Inn for something to drink and eat. Name was familiar to a place back home. Sit down at the bar and order a drink. Get introduced to very beautiful BG, we chat for a bit. Buy her a drink and get her work schedule, and a few pictures but nothing more.
Decide to scope out the freelancer scene, so I leave and turn left. Walk past Nana Plaza, girls are streaming in to work for the night. Arriving on the back of scooters looking awesome. I continue down Soi 4 and barely get past Hillary 4 when I feel a soft hand touch my arm. I look to see a beautiful young woman smiling at me and speaking very good English. She offers to give me a massage for $1000 tb. I explain I didn't have a room in the area. She tells me we can use her room. She's 29 yo about 5'2" and 58 kilos, with a beautiful face, bright eyes and smile. I continue checking out her pair of Cs, small waist and gorgeous ass which fits my hand perfectly. She's wearing stretchy pants, a tee shirt with plunging neckline and a scarf on her head. I figure low risk and could use a massage from someone I can have a conversation with.
She grabs my hand and leads me towards the Rajah Hotel, practically running. I suggest we stop for a drink, she says no, later. We step into the elevator with three other people. I'm backed up in the corner, with her backed up against me. I have one arm wrapped around her chest with my other hand caressing her ass. She reaches back and starts caressing my cock and balls, this is going to be a good massage. We reach her room and in we go, she hasn't even unpacked yet. I find out she's from the Philippines and just arrived today, what's my odds of that?
We hop in the shower to clean up and she suggests I stay the night for an additional $2 k. I figure why not, beats having to find my way back to my closet. I took the advice from a poster and brought condoms with me from the states and had stuck three in my pocket before heading out. We fucked and sucked the night away, she really liked to DFK and BBBJ too. We didn't leave the bed until after 10 AM. We went through every condom in the room, three of mine and two of hers.
She had short cropped hair, her body was flawless, smooth and soft with no tattoos or piercings, just the way I like it. A little more pubic hair than I like, but she tasted sweet and was very responsive. She suggests that I go get my luggage and stay with her. It's a much nicer room than mine, great Location and she likes to fuck and suck. I'm only planning on staying in Bangkok for a few days. So I head back to my "hotel" to checkout and get my key deposit. Take a quick shower, had to give room service something to do. Grab my luggage and a tuk tuk, as is was starting to rain, and head back to Rajah. She meets me in the lobby, hands me a room key and up to the room we go to test the mattress again. Plus she still owed me a massage. It's hasn't even been 24 hours since my plane landed, this is going to be a great trip.
Summary first 24 hrs.
Transportation $1150.
Food and drink $1100.
Entertainment $3000.
6 Condoms.
$5,250 tb = $175 us.
To be continued. Twelve days to go.
Blanquiceleste
09-29-19, 13:03
Really. Well if you came here once a year, would you go back to your hotel 3 nights in a row without a companion. How about 5? If there was no adult scene, would, or it got too expensive, would you even come.Firstly, if I travel to an place once a year, I don't consider myself a frequent visitor. I said nothing about price, because what one man spends in a day might be another's budget for a week or more, and I have no judgement on either. As for expectation, where is logic that I will settle for less if I am visiting a place? I might be coming from a place that has the highest delivery standards, consistently. No evidence.
Friday evening I went to Loli. Tas for a quick and cheap relieve.
Maybe 5 girls outside, I had a look at Kasalong first but saw nothing interesting there also so I came back near Loli. Tas and one of the girls invited me to have a drink inside.
She was not pretty but her face looked OK compared to the other girls and she had a real slim body so I agreed to take her upstairs directly. I played a bit with her ass in the stairs and she was actually playful so it was a good sign.
Once upstairs she directly took off everything except her bra and let me do whatever I wanted with her pussy and ass. I didn't finger her but rather touched and kissed a bit.
She then sucked me for a few minutes before I came and kept on sucking for maybe a minute or more after I came and then calmly split what she had in her mouth.
So here is a friendly girl, accommodating and available at a very affordable price (800 baht and I tipped her 100 because she was nice) with a slim body without baby damage, she had a nice pussy also.
Her name is Som and works only on the evening shift (she starts work at 17 o'clock).
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Some girls are talking very nicely until comes time to put the dick in when they may seize up (go stiff legged) . Many have very low experience with Farangs.
How many wanted to DFK? Can't remember many. How many seemed horny and really onto it? How many had a fab all natural body? Yeh some liked the DATY but not the dick.
By the time I am your age and it is not far off I may well be needing exclusively BBFS like yourself. The ultra thins may not be good enough any more. If I was still 35, its possible I would be happy with Thermae girls. However never seem to get the full GFE or even close enough to it there these days. It is so much easier to do a girl not fully into it with no condom on and some lube.
BTW your girl sounds quite good, but hard to be sure till get the great feel of pussy on the dick. Not every pussy is equal.
...Absolutely true that the feel of the pussy or the girl's behavior after penetration could change the whole situation from acceptable or better to mission impossible. Of course, if I were wearing a condom, all pussies would feel pretty much like the inside of a condom to me with marginal differences in snugness. But still not working for me. Actually, while doing bareback, any mission impossible problems for me have rarely been due to an unacceptable vagina. Strange as it might seem, it is usually due to the girl's inability to understand what I mean for her to do with the ball tickling. LOL. Tapping, squeezing, clawing and a few other bad habits is only going to scare my orgasm out of the room. Even when I demonstrate the relaxed, surface-only stroking on the girl's arm or whatever, that sometimes does not translate. No, I don't mean the girl then starts to gently stroke MY arm. LOL. I only mean she will forget what I just demonstrated for her and start tapping or paddling my scrotum with her hand again. Awful.
I have grown to really appreciate a superior vagina among Thai P4P girls. Some are just ok and I can usually deal with that. But when I get a truly superior one, it can really rock my world and overcum a whole host of other negatives and deficiencies.
I mostly agree with your points. Most girls (like you said on right side) are better looking than massage shop girls, but because they're not trained well, their service is quite weak. Also most of the time they're in hurry to leave. They're mostly used to the asian crowd, who most of the times come pretty quickly and are okay with whatever they get.
Saying that, I have a regular who I found out in Thermae. She is 28, pretty hot and now does way better BJ than she did when we first met (maybe because of experience). She only goes there on Friday and Saturday, most times I ask her to come at my place first and then she goes to thermae.I suppose experience is the best teacher for a BJ. More often than not, a Thai girl who gets almost everything wrong about a BJ will not suddenly get competent at it in one or two lessons. They are often simply unteachable in that amount of time.
On the subject of repeating a Thermae girl, that is where I believe Thermae can be a more interesting place for expats than for tourists. The very good girl (for guys who are fine with Covered FS) I took from there last night gave me her Line info and there is a good chance she will Line me sometime with a change of heart and mind about going bareback with me. There were certainly enough uncharacteristic "Oh My God! I Love You!" utterances from her during the DATY and later during a about of 69 to suggest she might anyway. True, for this first time we were together neither her God nor her Love for me was inspiration enough to move it into a bareback fuck or go along with my trending in that direction. LOL. But second times around do happen on occasion. And when they do, I have no qualms about spelling it out as explicitly as possible that this time it will be my way or I'll take a pass.
Doing the calculation, 5,000 baht or more is easily an amount I could pay on a short evening of cruising the go-go bars and taking a go-go bar girl who will agree to what I need. So if it takes two 2,500 baht sessions to get that with a way above average Thermae girl who would not budge on my requirement the first time around but will agree to it without hassle the second time around, what the hell, I live here and have time for that. Sure, I understand some guys would hate it to be a Two Stage endeavor. And that would not generally work in a one or two week visit. But I am not in such a hurry or in such need really.
GettingFedUp
09-29-19, 20:04
grumpy Nope, quite cheerful just find it slightly irksome that there are 12,000+ posts from a certain keyboard warrior. If One in four is your beef about my genuine report credentials please do point me to the 3,000 reports of new girls you have reported on.
old Err, does this site do carbon dating? Wow, the internet is amazing.
sarcasm specialist Nope, just a gifted amateur. My specialism is elsewhere.
useless story. Speaking of specialist subjects. Rearrange the words KETTLE, BLACK and POT into a meaningful phrase?
Firstly, if I travel to an place once a year, I don't consider myself a frequent visitor. I said nothing about price, because what one man spends in a day might be another's budget for a week or more, and I have no judgement on either. As for expectation, where is logic that I will settle for less if I am visiting a place? I might be coming from a place that has the highest delivery standards, consistently. No evidence.So in other words, avoid the questions I asked.
A report on my trip to the land of smiles. Thailand was never on my radar. Have been mongering for years (US, UK, Mex & Can) but was not aware of Thailand's treasures. Got a few books and started to do some research. Came across ISG and spent may hours continuing my research.
To be continued. Twelve days to go.What a great start for your first trip in Thailand.
I'm very impressed.
Keep posting your experience man.
Nira, New Massage Soi 33, sweet slim tall pretty model newbie with small tits not saggy, has baby, shy no English. GFE up to you. Yes will repeat. No pornstar.
2 weeks in Bangkok all sessions good to outstanding, Snow White, DokiDoki, New, Soi 4, 5 Star, 2 regulars repeated multiples. Only bad session was Thermae. My batting average at Therma remains woeful.
The Nana girls are dogs all the time. Just coincidentally, I was walking through there on Saturday night and they were more horrid than usual. I consider the streetwalkers in that area to be the dregs, and the guys that pick them up either don't know any better, can't afford any better, or are just blind, desperate or so hideous themselves that that's the best they can do. To be fair, the ones by the car park you can at least look at without vomiting. Start heading down the street and watching them deteriorate into simple lumps of two-legged .For a guy that lives in LOS half a year or a resident I would agree it 's not worth going there to check the FLs and I very rarely saw nice girls standing there (in all my trips in BKK I took only one girl from that street).
However when you've spent the whole year working in a shitty European country where the girls are as dumb as you don't even want to interact with them, once you look at some of these FL girls and you know you can get a quick and cheap relieve they become attractive.
Anyway I won't argue with you about that as I had the same mindset than you in all my previous visits.
I was also there on Saturday night (around midnight) and could spot a very cute one that I wanted to meet. I observed her for some time from a place she couldn't see me and I saw her getting away from some guys that tried to approach her, so at least I thought she was not at the bottom of the barrel of the FLs that stand on that street, so it was a good point for her.
I went to have a look further the street and you're right that the further you go, the less pretty they are.
Finally I came back and initiated a talk with her, she asked for 1500. Seeing her closely I thought that she was still very cute so I didn't want to offer her something too low from her starting rate. She said she would stay one hour, for me it's another good sign, at least she will not try to rush the thing. I offered her 1200 and we settled at 1300. We went to a nearby ST room. Even though they might be the bottom of the barrel, it seems that there is a lot of demand for these products because the first ST place we tried was full so we went to the one that is just in front for 300 baht.
In the room she was adorable, with the light of the room I could see her face was a bit less attractive but still good for me. She was slim, no baby damage on the belly except the big scar above her pussy, she was not trimmed at all but it's OK for me as I don't go down on these FLs, but her boobs were saggy (not a big deal for me), ass was small and well shaped, skin was not dark and was smooth.
We took some time for talking (late twenties from a city from Essan, recently split with her Thai BF, working there for aprox 2 years) and foreplay. She let me play with her backdoor (and I enjoyed it a lot) but anal fuck was out of question. I think I had my finger up her ass during almost the whole session.
She can do some extended light kissing (no DFK as she doesn't know how to do it), a nice BBBJ and then straight in doggy. For me she was very far from the bottom of the barrel.
I will certainly repeat her as I liked her and for that price I consider it cheap but I try to manage my power as there are a lot of girls I would want to check out.
I will not reveal her name or the exact place she stays as it seems that nobody wants her anyway, she said she arrived around 8 pm that night and I was her first customer at around midnight. Given that both you and Syzigyes probably saw her but did not pay attention to her is a good indication that she is absolutely not worth it.
A report on my trip to the land of smiles. Thailand was never on my radar. Have been mongering for years (US, UK, Mex & Can) but was not aware of Thailand's treasures. Got a few books and started to do some research. Came across ISG and spent may hours continuing my research. Formulated a plan and made some reservations. Decided on low season, worked better for budget and timing and figured a good time to ease into such an endeavor.
Pattaya was to be my base of operation, bookending nights in Bangkok as transition to the flights. Made bookings using Agoda and Google Flights. Booked 6 nights at VT6 and found around trip for under $800. Figured with the close proximity of Nana, Cowboy and Skytrain to so many hotels in Bangkok, I'd wait until I had feet on the ground to make arrangements. Planned to take the train into city central, find hotel near Nana or Asok stations. Initially thought about finding a LBFM in Bangkok and offer her an all expense paid vacation in Pattaya. After doing many hours of reading, decided to go along with the prevailing opinion of why focus on one when there are so many available.
Well plans changed and I ended up in Bangkok four days sooner and later in the day. Flight and immigration was smooth and uneventful. Exchanged some cash and got something to eat on the lower floor of the airport. Head for the train station at the BKK airport. As I'm looking at the rail map to figure out my route, a very official looking lady with an ID badge says the train is not working. Offers to find me a car and asks me where I'm going. I make mistake number one, sort of. I tell her I don't have a hotel yet. See says she can help me with that too. Takes me over to little tourist info shop and shows me a binder full of hotels, tours and services for sale. After some back and forth negotiating we settle on $2000 baht for car and room. Paid the money at the booth, which I was a bit unsure about, but was given a receipt. I had two suitcases plus a carry on, it was door to door, so figured it was worth it and I did a good job for $60 US.
It was around 3:30 pm, I'm escorted to a new car with a bottle of water and a cute older female driver. Ride into the city was nice and relaxing, got to sight see and enjoy the water. Closer we got to destination, the worse the traffic got, but I wasn't driving and enjoying the view. Last 2 kilometers took over 20 minutes. Ended up near Ratchaprarop station at Cozy Villa Hotel, in name only.
Let me congratulate you on an excellent report. You knew a lot about Thailand from reading the forum. I would like to point out a few mistakes in the event it will help others. For a first trip book your hotel in advance so you have a place to go when you arrive in BKK. You knew to book near the BTS, Sukhumvit, Nana, and Soi Cowboy, but you wound up in another area I believe. There is a scam at tourist sites where a man or woman will tell you the site is closed but they can show you someplace else. This is a scam they use on unsuspecting tourists and the site is likely open. Happened to me at the Grand Palace. My best guess is the trains from the airport to BKK city were working when you were there and the lady grabbed you to make a commission for herself.
It's great to read such a detailed report from a first timer to BKK. Looking forward to the rest of your reports. I suspect you had a great time. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
Hi all,
In a few weeks I'll be going to Thailand for the first time. Since I'll spend most of my time in Pattaya, I've been mostly been reading up on the situation and prices down there.
But I also have a couple of days planned in Bangkok (staying near the Nana BST stop) and I'd like to ask a few questions. I've read quite a lot of the forum, but it seems to have a high number of posts focusing on regular and repeating mongers.
As a newbie Farang with mozarella like skin, where should I spend my time? Where to pick up girls without going broke?
Prices are higher than in patts I hear, so what should I expect for ST in the different venues?
Are the soapy's worth it? If so, where should I go?
Which gogo's are most likely to have nude girls and some hands on action going on?
I should mention that I'm not particularly green or easily flustered when it comes to working girls. The last decade I've spent a lot of times at FKKs, which also means that I've fucked many pretty Romanians at 100 E and hour or less. Syz, I'm sure you don't remember, but we met once in the glory days of FKK World. Back when Neya and Kate Beckinsale lookalike Andrea were filling their pockets over there.
In any case, any info is appreciated.
FD.
Tooms, the very moment I read "shaved smoothly" I knew you weren't getting BBFS.
Tooms, the very moment I read "shaved smoothly" I knew you weren't getting BBFS.Why would that be? The majority of my first time girls who provide me with BBFS+CIP were shaved smoothly, including from Thermae.
Why would that be? The majority of my first time girls who provide me with BBFS+CIP were shaved smoothly, including from Thermae.Has worked in reverse with me.
The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.
What a great start for your first trip in Thailand.
I'm very impressed.
Keep posting your experience man.Except for falling for the train-is-closed scam and getting stuck in ratchaprapop.
I remember asking where one might find African girls on my last visit to BKK and was told to avoid. Typical will steal from you stereotype. However, my preferences and my past travel experiences couldn't keep me away. Was in Nana area a day ago and saw a cute one from Uganda walking down the street but couldn't make eye contact. Later saw her sitting at Hooters having a beer. So I pulled up a chair and began to talk. The security guy at Hooters, who always makes me laugh by the way, great guy, told me she has been in there for a couple of weeks now. We bullshit and then she said she'the go with me for ST. Back at the hotel we bullshit some more. She showers and did a great job. Like most Africans likes doggy and did it nicely with her ass up and face down. After she took a nice load in her mouth and let it run down her chest. I like to put them on the floor with their head back on the bed for the shot and she was compliant. Told me she wanted to hang out some more but I was done for the night. Also told me she give me her ass if we got married LOL.
Nice body, tits are not my thing and hers were like most black girls.
She told me where most of the black girls hang out and mentioned this African-Caribbean club down the road. She prefers to work Nana area and not hang out with the other Africans. Which I understand the drama that comes with that. Black girls to me are a lot of attitude, but if they like you are the nastiest little sluts you'll find and can be very submissive. But if you're in a relationship with one she is the Queen on the street.
Met another on Tinder from Kenya. She's stopping by today later.
Has worked in reverse with me.
The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.Yep, Asian guys prefer hair. Seen more gals with hair in the PSE shops as well. That's a big no-no for me.
Has worked in reverse with me.
The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.No, it has been the opposite for me. If the girl likes oral sex enough to understand the value in keeping herself shaved, there is also a good chance she appreciates good sex in general enough to hate condoms almost as much as many men do. LOL.
In my experience, the girl being shaved has not been an indicator that she will probably say No to BBFS+CIP on our first encounter. Actually, her being popular with or amenable to being with many farang customers has not been such an indicator either as I recall.
In this particular case, I was quite sure she would probably say No to that with me for other, much more problematic reasons and consistent indicators:
1. I did not get an upfront agreement from her for BBFS+CIP in the bar or sometime before we headed to my room. Instead, I chose "go with the flow and see what happens in the room." Therefore, there was already an 80% chance she would say No to BBFS+CIP in the room and hold to it.
2. She was a solid 8+.
3. I met her in Thermae.
I knew long before I got to the room she was very, very likely to refuse BBFS+CIP on that first encounter. When I saw that she was shaved smoothly, that was just one small glimmer of hope that she was appreciative, experienced and knowledgeable enough about great sex to feel comfortable with my vasectomy and medical check document situation and go for it. My feeling about her being a good candidate for the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach was based only on my assumption that it could be a Two Stage (2,500 baht X 2) accomplishment and I did not want to risk her saying No in the bar without us even getting to that first Stage of it. I was willing to give that approach a chance with this one.
We have chatted on Line a bit since then. She says she will contact me for another session when she returns to Bangkok. We'll see. I am not counting on it. But it will be a nice surprise if I do get that Line message in a few weeks.
The Nana girls are dogs all the time. Just coincidentally, I was walking through there on Saturday night and they were more horrid than usual. I consider the streetwalkers in that area to be the dregs, and the guys that pick them up either don't know any better, can't afford any better, or are just blind, desperate or so hideous themselves that that's the best they can do. To be fair, the ones by the car park you can at least look at without vomiting. Start heading down the street and watching them deteriorate into simple lumps of two-legged ugliness.
Turn a does seem to get a bit more crowded at the end of the month and you'll find more part-timers there. Since the girls pay the club to be there, I assume that for many girls, it's not worth it to be there for only a night or so.Well, I always see one or two Thai gals that are doable. But, venture farther down the street and some of the Viets just blow the Thai gals out of the water. White skin, great facial features (non-surgically enhanced for the most part), and some ripping bodies combined with that great aggressive intense Vietnamese attitude. I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.
Well, I always see one or two Thai gals that are doable. But, venture farther down the street and some of the Viets just blow the Thai gals out of the water. White skin, great facial features (non-surgically enhanced for the most part), and some ripping bodies combined with that great aggressive intense Vietnamese attitude. I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.
She started at 15,000 baht for LT, condom required, her supposed "going rate". Over a drink I got her to LT for 7,000, BBFS+CIP that evening, BBBJ+CIM in the morning, no rush, all on my terms. That was the most I've spent outright on a hooker in Thailand. But the calculation was still that I could easily spend almost that much cruising around the go-go bars and only get a ST BBFS+CIP/BBBJ+CIM for it with a probably bargirl 7+.
I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.
She started at 15,000 baht for LT, condom required, her supposed "going rate". Over a drink I got her to LT for 7,000, BBFS+CIP that evening, BBBJ+CIM in the morning, no rush, all on my terms. That was the most I've spent outright on a hooker in Thailand. But the calculation was still that I could easily spend almost that much cruising around the go-go bars and only get a ST BBFS+CIP/BBBJ+CIM for it with a probably bargirl 7+.Luckily I am ok with condoms for FS and anal, and the Viets seem ok with BBBJ. Funny, even when engaging in BBFS, which is rare, I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess. The Viets are for sure several cuts above the Thais when it comes to looks.
Funny, even when engaging in BBFS, which is rare, I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess.I am the same. If I don't cum on the girl (either her body or her face), I consider it a total turn off and a wasted session. Even if wearing a condom, I will rip that condom off right at the end and cum on her rather than cumming inside.
Luckily I am ok with condoms for FS and anal, and the Viets seem ok with BBBJ.
...Yes, I have taken a couple of the cute/pretty face Vietnamese girls down there for BBBJ+CIM in my room, 1,000 baht. I used to date a Vietnamese girl back in the usa, a blackjack dealer at Harrah's in Tahoe. She was crazy about BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, couldn't get enough of it. Loved her dearly. But I have not met a swallower among them here yet. For me, that is.
Robert Long
10-01-19, 07:50
Yes, I have taken a couple of the cute/pretty face Vietnamese girls down there for BBBJ+CIM in my room, 1,000 baht. I used to date a Vietnamese girl back in the usa, a blackjack dealer at Harrah's in Tahoe. She was crazy about BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, couldn't get enough of it. Loved her dearly. But I have not met a swallower among them here yet. For me, that is.I found a Viet FL in front of Hooters. Not bad, nice legs. She would not agree on no condom but was ok with everything else. I didn't ask for anal, not into the chocolate factory. I'm a sucker for great legs so I don't even remember the face.
Also exchanged some questions with the deft lady boss and she offered her side kick for 1200 baht, when I asked about no condom the price went up to 3500 baht. Goodbye.
All in the Soi 4 was populated with 3's and 4's. And many didn't even make the chart. A great place for stingy fucks.
RL.
All in the Soi 4 was populated with 3's and 4's. And many didn't even make the chart. A great place for stingy fucks.
RL.A great place for value for money if don't need porno. Certainly I am doing better there than Thermae in value for money and luck for making the right choice, but more all naturals on Soi 4 and performance can be better with Farangs. I can pass quite easily, when only 3 or 4's are there, and that can be somewhat often. Pick the right time and right night and I found 3 hot girls last Saturday. Yes Thermae overall looks standard is much higher, but only the best 2 or 3 girls really matter. I think its easier to have a regular girl there and can reach an understanding that will pay a bit more for exceptional service, yet still be value. Getting a regular at Thermae would be a good idea too, for reliable service.
Soi 4 girls looks can be quite comparable with many MPs, with rather few girls looking doable, however maybe more all natural girls. Did not see the stunning deaf girl on Soi 4 lately at all. I fear she is gone.
I have not done any nor even met any Viets, and talked to them. Maybe they are not my spec really. Have met odd Bangkok person claiming to be Viet but actually not. I try a few Viet phrases on them. I can pronounce well enough for them to understand if they are really Viet. One I suspected was really from Myanmar. Still doubtless Viets are around, maybe I just never approached any. Its is useful I think to have a few basic phrases for each major SE Asian country, so can tell which language girls really speak, and how much they maybe bullshitting. Girls from Myanmar and Cambodia that spoke Thai, I could tell had strange pronunciation. One Laos girl though pronounces Thai so well that I can't really pick it, but her Thai spelling is atrocious, spelling in more like a Laos way.
My hairdresser was a Galiang, like Karen or other hilltribe from Myanmar, and I did not really understand a word of their language. That would be going too far. There are far too many minor languages.
I tried to learn some Vietnamese but found it much harder than Thai to come to grips with, or maybe the teacher was lousy to explain pronunciation. Easy to recognise though, its very short jerky sound. Not a pretty language except when spoken by sweet girls.
Are there a lot of Viet hookers in Thailand? It would not be legal for them to be working as hookers on the street. Don't they fear police raids?
I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess. I am not one to put much stead in being conditioned or excited to imitate porn movies (which are clearly contrived and silly and either ugly or nasty). My taste in porn is strange no doubt, sex-art or X-art rather non nasty porn, no really extreme stuff. However really hot girls even those with golden brown skin can excite me. Latest one I watched was a light golden skinned black girl Julie Kay, and I liked her body even with a little too much landing trip. So my porn is just sexy, but not having anything in particular to imitate thet registers with me. Doubtless the guys' DATY technique looks mostly poor so would not learn anything from that. Then they put dicks half way in for the camera to see better, some / many girls have pussy stuffing to stop the dick going all the way, Ha ha. Its all a joke but can have a sexy illusion. I hate seeing condoms in porn, I guess that means something, hate Jap pixelation, and even fast forward during extended BBBJs which bore me. Watch little ass fucking preferring beautiful pussy. I am sure my taste is not normal with many guys seeming to like "extreme porn" and something denigrating / degrading the girls as far as possible. Must be a danger if guys need to act out what they see in extreme porn too much.
Still I am well used to come on, and go used it. It does further reduce risks of pregnancy and other things. I certainly am not into risking girls getting pregnant, we all should know many young hookers are getting pregnant accidentally, even if they are supposedly on the pill.
I intend to take ETs lead and get the vasectomy done. My Mrs still has periods but not wanting another baby.
Is it weird for me to get turned on by the girl getting turned on and clearly wanting to enjoy it rather than purely working? No dead fish fucks for me. Its easy to like girls who like to fuck a lot, and show enthusiasm. I am okay Normally with girls largely doing what things they enjoy, rather than requesting specific services. Sometimes I have got no BJ, because girl does not feel like doing one but wants to do other things. No BJ is not worse than a poor BJ. One girl worked in a BJ shop so being sick to death of BJs but wanting DATY and a nice deep fuck, was not a big problem. Ha ha. Her pussy was relatively fresh.
Girl attitude is the huge thing for me to make a session work, or bomb out totally, once get past total physical incompatibility, or a disaster body, and she has got have a nic pussy and look sexy. Back in my home country before moving to Thai girls, only 1 in 10 hookers really had the attitude to make it fun rather than procedural, and hence I never do western hookers back home any more. Success rate was far too low. East European hookers and Latina have a much better attitude, don't know my. My country just sucks!
I think Thailand has been in decline for hooker Attitudes, but I can't prove it, because I got older and less desirable. I never forget Thai girls that wanted to fuck several times a night (many years back). Was easy to see how much they wanted another pop like they never had it so good. Don't meet that any more. Best I can expect is another round in the morning if do LT. Maybe the young spunks are still getting that. Maybe I am too difficult to do multiple times any more.
I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.Lucky you then dude, the further you walk down the Soi, the uglier it gets IMHO.
The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.That part is likely right, shaved girls know Farangs prefer it. However I don't see any correlation between allowing BBFS and pussy hair, it maybe true that many inexperienced girls are easier to talk into BBFS than experienced ones but not sure they all have big Bush, but I don't see a huge pattern. Could be shaved, well trimmed, or bushy. I don't do any bushy ones regularly, so can't say if they would BBFS easily or not.
Many guys claimed to get BBFS at Snow White regularly. I guess they weren't all telling porkies.
My first regular that decided to stop using a condom (in recent years) was every experienced and shaved. She wanted for us both to be tested regularly, she was a little more paranoid about HIV than necessary. However she could see my staying power increased if BBFS. She could take a while to get her 2nd pop. Dicks wilt faster with a thick condom spoiling the feel for non-sensitive dick guys. Maybe can't cum. I am sure ET agrees with me here. BBFS can feel better for the girl as well as for the guy. She was first one to yank the condom off me suddenly one day. Of course can be a mechanism for the girl to hook the customer more regularly, and make her be a preferred or the preferred girl. No other girl matches her stamina.
Well plans changed and I ended up in Bangkok four days sooner and later in the day. Flight and immigration was smooth and uneventful. Exchanged some cash and got something to eat on the lower floor of the airport. Head for the train station at the BKK airport. As I'm looking at the rail map to figure out my route, a very official looking lady with an ID badge says the train is not working. Offers to find me a car and asks me where I'm going. I make mistake number one, sort of. I tell her I don't have a hotel yet. See says she can help me with that too. Takes me over to little tourist info shop and shows me a binder full of hotels, tours and services for sale. After some back and forth negotiating we settle on $2000 baht for car and room. Paid the money at the booth, which I was a bit unsure about, but was given a receipt. I had two suitcases plus a carry on, it was door to door, so figured it was worth it and I did a good job for $60 US.
Lesson one. Don't accept help from very helpful scammers. Ignore all those too eager to help you. Don't even talk to them. There is an official information booth somewhere, if you need it. If price is too good, you would get the shittiest Hotel. She was there to make a good profit and rip you off. Surely the train was really still operating. If not take a metered taxi.
At airport I go to upper level. All taxi drivers that come at me, get ignored. I take a guy politely sitting in his taxi. These are likely the more honest ones. Once I speak Thai he won't try anything too silly. We make sure the meter gets turned on / reset. I still have to be very specific about the taxi route. I have to insist he uses the expressway but gets off at Rama 9. Thais have different agendas. The may like to exit freeway at Soi 1 with traffic jam. They may think to save money will use ordinary roads with traffic jam. I use Google Maps to show the best route at the time.
I think is better is you book a hotel in advance for at least the first night, to give you less hassles on arrival. However stay flexible. Learn what you like and what you don't like.
Anyone trying too hard to help has other motives. Believe us! Never let them take you to where they want to go.
As a newbie Farang with mozarella like skin, where should I spend my time? Where to pick up girls without going broke?
Prices are higher than in patts I hear, so what should I expect for ST in the different venues?
Are the soapy's worth it? If so, where should I go?
Which gogo's are most likely to have nude girls and some hands on action going on?
I should mention that I'm not particularly green or easily flustered when it comes to working girls. The last decade I've spent a lot of times at FKKs, which also means that I've fucked many pretty Romanians at 100 E and hour or less. Syz, I'm sure you don't remember, but we met once in the glory days of FKK World. Back when Neya and Kate Beckinsale lookalike Andrea were filling their pockets over there.
In any case, any info is appreciated.
FD.Free Dude,
I remember you well, of course. Younger and more handsome than me. Not taking any bullshit girls! You were liking the basic cost girls and unhappy with girls giving so-so service for a 50 at Oase, where I was getting fab service but taking an hour and paying much more. Meanwhile Neya and Andrea were great for both of us. Ha ha. Fab bodies on those girls! Would be happy with a Mrs like Andrea. LOL What perfection!
Back to the point. Nude dancing girls can be found at Soi Cowboy in Crazy House, Kazy Kozy, Susie Wong, and 5 Star. Some nice looking girls, some uglies / buffaloes just like an FKK. I suspect you are not going to be happy with what a gogo bar is going to set you back for drinks, barfine and the girl ST (could be a few hundred Baht for drinks, 700 BF, and many girls try for 3000 Baht for Short time now).
For Nana Plaza I recommend Billboard bar. Not nude dancing.
I don't have a favourite Soapy right now. Not easy to find girls that prefer Farangs and low on surgeries. Have a look in La Belle, Colonze, Emmanuelle, maybe Meree or Evita. I don't recall if you accept surgeries girls or not.
Now a great alternative to a Soapy is a Nuru body slide massage. Try Doki Doki (good service for me), maybe New massage on Sukhumvit Soi 33.
For more porn star oriented massage, try Snow White Soi 26. Could get anal for no extra charge. CIM also no extra charge.
More regular Oily massage parlours, try Club 102, Soi 24, and have a look in Soi 24/1 (near to soi 26).
P.S. There are a lot of Ladyboys around on Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza and that may be a new thing for you to watch out for. 5-star bar has Post Op ladyboys that do not dance nude, and normally leave the farang guys alone. I don't let that bother me at all. They don't try to get to me.
I will not reveal her name or the exact place she stays as it seems that nobody wants her anyway, she said she arrived around 8 pm that night and I was her first customer at around midnight. Given that both you and Syzigyes probably saw her but did not pay attention to her is a good indication that she is absolutely not worth it.Ha ha. That is a negative attitude. At first she sounded similar to my girl, but I think mine was younger and claimed to be a Bangkok girl. I was there early so half the girls had not even showed up yet. Who knows if I saw her or not. I did not patrol the entire Soi. Did not go past the redevelop area (that used to be Raja Hotel etc.). Does not matter. We all have our own taste. I found 3 girls quite different to each other at approx. 8.30PM, all worthy of a second hard look, either with good face, or apparently good body, varying skin colours.
Without a name and place, it devalues the possible usefulness of the report slightly, but no problem, shows okay Girls can be found there and for a reasonable price.
I just remembered having my 2nd try of a girl on Soi 4 a few weeks back that had performed O.K. for me at Boss Massage. 2nd try she was no good to me with weak BJ, and not getting into it, and maybe a sore pussy. ET had previously reported a bomb out with her, so I should have known she was a possibly problematic pick. Forgot the name now. Soi 4 girls will always be hit and miss. Find the right attitude and can work fine.
Some guys will say only dogs on Soi 4 and hot girls seen at Lolytas BJ bar, others can be more realistic. Soi 4 has a much larger pool of girls and looks vary a lot. Years ago I had a hot girl (great ass) called Anne at Lolytas but have not seen a suitable girl since. I will try any venue that starts to give a reasonable success rate with reasonable lookers and value for money. Did one reasonable Kasilong girl but forget who she was now.
Ha ha. That is a negative attitude. At first she sounded similar to my girl, but I think mine was younger and claimed to be a Bangkok girl.
Without a name and place, it devalues the possible usefulness of the report slightlyI didn't give specific details that could lead to her because she's got many regular customers that are probably reading this forum. She was very nice with me and I wouldn't want that any of these guys go to her and tells her that I detailed my encounter with her on the internet.
I 'm sure that she didn't have many customers that spent almost the whole session with their finger in her ass even when we were just talking together.
The purpose of the post was to show that we can still find cute girls that are still young with a nice body and very good attitude at an affordable price in that soi, even for a guy like me that doesn't like much of these FL's.
I'm sure that she is not the same girl that you had, she doesn't fit your description.
I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.By reading your posts one would easily believe that all the Thai working girls are "dark skin Essaan gals".
They are not all dark skinned and can come in very different shape.
Actually a lot of the girls with a light color skin are coming from Essaan also, and the color of the skin shouldn't be a factor. The shape of the face and body should be more appropriate to judge the beauty of a girl.
Roaming Viking
10-02-19, 03:59
Hi all, I am on my way to LOS for my fall excursion. I was just wondering. Has anything changed at SW? I used to take a girl back to my hotel for some fun and games and it was always all inclusive. With regard to Nana hotel FL, over the years, I have been incredibly lucky, all things considered. Nice looking young girls and full service for no more than 1500 tops. I hope that has not changed these days I seldom see the same girl again. They seem to move on faster than ever before. Any thoughts?
By reading your posts one would easily believe that all the Thai working girls are "dark skin Essaan gals".
They are not all dark skinned and can come in very different shape.
Actually a lot of the girls with a light color skin are coming from Essaan also, and the color of the skin shouldn't be a factor. The shape of the face and body should be more appropriate to judge the beauty of a girl.You are correct, not all are, but most are. Yes, there are some lighter gals from Isaan, namely the ones from Nakhon Phanom. Should be? Ever dude has his own standard.
Should be? Ever dude has his own standard.You're right, I didn't express myself correctly.
I was giving my personal view and didn't try to say others what they should or shouldn't do.
To say it in other words, as you I mostly prefer white skinned Asian girls but when I find a girl with a body shape that I like with a cute enough face and a good attitude I don't let the skin color being a big factor in my decision.
You are correct, not all are, but most are. Yes, there are some lighter gals from Isaan, namely the ones from Nakhon Phanom. Should be? Ever dude has his own standard.It may surprise you but even Buriram supplies some light skinned girls. Yes it was a surprise when I met one, recently.
When the girl is extra dark skinned and short, the we tend to guess Buriram or Surin, but when she is normal coloured or light skin it becomes very hard to guess. I don't see any major pattern. Udon and Khon Kaen girls tend to be taller on average in my experience. Perhaps Chiang Rai girls are lighter skin on average, and not many really dark, but means little for individuals. In the North face shapes vary a lot too. Some girls have a very broad jaw almost square head, that I don't go for. Some have a slimmer face.
One girl I knew a long time but have not fucked as yet (maybe soon to be rectified) comes from Songkhla / Hatyai yet I had no idea where she came from whatsoever. She had not been using southern accent noticeably. Reasonably light skin. I sort of guessed somewhere north of Bangkok. My very first girl from Songkhla / Satun looked so much like an Isaan girl, that Isaan people would speak to her in Isaan language and be annoyed she answered in Thai.
In general, gross generalisations about what girls look like by province does not work, but certain looks can suggest a particular set of provinces is likely. The most stand out look would be a really dark short Buriram girl, I guess. Many southern Thais also may not look very Thai at all.
If I like a girl, I don't give a shit where she comes from, as long as she won't get lynched for playing up due to religious problems. I actually don't care much how old she is either, although we have the legal problem of some very young mothers wanting to work as hookers.
Skin tone does not matter that much, although a more golden brown looks more attractive to me than dingy grey / brown or charcoal / brown. I have a few favourite "black" porn stars with nice skin, e. G. Nia Nacci. Very even toned skin can be nice in many different shades.
Blotchy uneven coloured faces can put me off. One girl I knew for years developed blotchy coloured face. Made her look a bit old.
I didn't give specific details that could lead to her because she's got many regular customers that are probably reading this forum. She was very nice with me and I wouldn't want that any of these guys go to her and tells her that I detailed my encounter with her on the internet.
I 'm sure that she didn't have many customers that spent almost the whole session with their finger in her ass even when we were just talking together.
The purpose of the post was to show that we can still find cute girls that are still young with a nice body and very good attitude at an affordable price in that soi, even for a guy like me that doesn't like much of these FL's.
I'm sure that she is not the same girl that you had, she doesn't fit your description.Yes I stopped posting blow by blow reports about girls, after one dude printed my post and read it out to Aor from Annies, and overseas, guys had quoted what I wrote directly to girls as well. That is really destructive for the forum to contain good info. In modern day have girls that read the forum too.
It was lucky that I had only good things to say about those girls, however one was still annoyed. One of my regular girls in Germany however, dropped me, as she had promised her big money regular jealous customer, she would not take me any more. He was pissed off that the girl had a good time with me, after reading my detailed forum report, when he had thought he was her sole favourite. This was the girl's story, of course I can't prove it is factual. However it is a strange story if she made it up as a reason to stop fucking me. If her pussy had been out of action after an extended fuck, she could have just stated that plainly. She was an older girl but outstandingly good time on the bed. She was really into it (with some customers).
These days I still mention specific girls. If they don't get a great rap, I don't care if they find out. At least was honest assessment. If they get a glowing report, it can help them to get more business. We should be helping each other to know which girls can potentially be great or disastrous, even though practical help is rare.
Knowing where some specific girl has turned up working is quite valuable.
Yes I stopped posting blow by blow reports about girls, after one dude printed my post and read it out to Aor from AnniesI guess your theory of never posting any pictures of the girls you have been with doesn't work when you are typing up reports specifically using the girl's names and location.
But is there really any need to tell us about any specific girl? Just talking about which places are good to try is enough if you ask me.
I've been on this forum since the 90's, even before the name of the forum was internationalsexguide. It used to be world sex guide, then they changed it about 20 years ago. In all those years, I have never taken any guy's advice on any particular girl. I've never seen the need. Most times when I do see the girls that guys are recommending, they don't interest me anyway.
I prefer to see photos of the girls rather than reports of encounters with no photos that give the girl's name.
That being said, there are the guys like the one you mentioned who show the girls the photos or read the girls the reports. I've never understood those type of assholes, but they are out there. As long as you keep that in mind when you post, it's all good.
It may surprise you but even Buriram supplies some light skinned girls. Yes it was a surprise when I met one, recently.
When the girl is extra dark skinned and short, the we tend to guess Buriram or Surin, but when she is normal coloured or light skin it becomes very hard to guess. I don't see any major pattern. Udon and Khon Kaen girls tend to be taller on average in my experience. Perhaps Chiang Rai girls are lighter skin on average, and not many really dark, but means little for individuals. In the North face shapes vary a lot too. Some girls have a very broad jaw almost square head, that I don't go for. Some have a slimmer face.
One girl I knew a long time but have not fucked as yet (maybe soon to be rectified) comes from Songkhla / Hatyai yet I had no idea where she came from whatsoever. She had not been using southern accent noticeably. Reasonably light skin. I sort of guessed somewhere north of Bangkok. My very first girl from Songkhla / Satun looked so much like an Isaan girl, that Isaan people would speak to her in Isaan language and be annoyed she answered in Thai.
In general, gross generalisations about what girls look like by province does not work, but certain looks can suggest a particular set of provinces is likely. The most stand out look would be a really dark short Buriram girl, I guess. Many southern Thais also may not look very Thai at all.
If I like a girl, I don't give a shit where she comes from, as long as she won't get lynched for playing up due to religious problems. I actually don't care much how old she is either, although we have the legal problem of some very young mothers wanting to work as hookers.
Skin tone does not matter that much, although a more golden brown looks more attractive to me than dingy grey / brown or charcoal / brown. I have a few favourite "black" porn stars with nice skin, e. G. Nia Nacci. Very even toned skin can be nice in many different shades.
Blotchy uneven coloured faces can put me off. One girl I knew for years developed blotchy coloured face. Made her look a bit old.I have seen some BRR gals that are light skinned and have more Chinese features as well. There is definitely mixed blood there.
Free Dude,
I remember you well, of course. Younger and more handsome than me. Not taking any bullshit girls! You were liking the basic cost girls and unhappy with girls giving so-so service for a 50 at Oase, where I was getting fab service but taking an hour and paying much more. Meanwhile Neya and Andrea were great for both of us. Ha ha. Fab bodies on those girls! Would be happy with a Mrs like Andrea. LOL What perfection!
Back to the point. Nude dancing girls can be found at Soi Cowboy in Crazy House, Kazy Kozy, Susie Wong, and 5 Star. Some nice looking girls, some uglies / buffaloes just like an FKK. I suspect you are not going to be happy with what a gogo bar is going to set you back for drinks, barfine and the girl ST (could be a few hundred Baht for drinks, 700 BF, and many girls try for 3000 Baht for Short time now).
For Nana Plaza I recommend Billboard bar. Not nude dancing.
I don't have a favourite Soapy right now. Not easy to find girls that prefer Farangs and low on surgeries. Have a look in La Belle, Colonze, Emmanuelle, maybe Meree or Evita. I don't recall if you accept surgeries girls or not.
Now a great alternative to a Soapy is a Nuru body slide massage. Try Doki Doki (good service for me), maybe New massage on Sukhumvit Soi 33..Thanks for the tips and info!
I miss those days in World as well, nowadays the whole Frankfurt area has become a place to avoid because of the "flexible" pricing many girls practice. And, not unlike what I read here, the girls that are only interested in Asian clients. Anyway, thanks again.
Couldn't resist another cute ebony I met on Tinder here in BKK. From Kenya she chatted for awhile on Line and agreed to meet for an afternoon. Nika, was cute, educated and spoke English. Performed ok for my tastes. She enjoyed the DATY and came a couple of times. CIM was no problem. 2,500 BHT.
Said she came here on a visit once with her ex and now returned to make a little money. Seems to have traveled around a lot from her profile photos.
She too mentioned there was a street here in BKK where there are a lot of African girls near Soi 4 but I have yet to find it.
She too mentioned there was a street here in BKK where there are a lot of African girls near Soi 4 but I have yet to find it.Try Soi 7 in evening. Some black girls okay Looking. Any other place with cart bars too.
Thanks for the tips and info!
I miss those days in World as well, nowadays the whole Frankfurt area has become a place to avoid because of the "flexible" pricing many girls practice. And, not unlike what I read here, the girls that are only interested in Asian clients. Anyway, thanks again.My last visit to World was years ago.
I still had some good Oase regulars but it is a long time (months) since my last visit. Nelly was great on first try. Not all girls only interested in Asians, but not many interested in a basic price session.
You certainly can get cheaper in Bangkok and can get girls that are not value for money as well. Overall standard of performance may be lower than what you expect. Start with a porn star shop like Snow White Massage on Sukhumvit Soi 26, if you can find any girls with looks good enough to be doable. All up I suggest you start with cheaper options and gradually move to more costly options so you can see if really worth paying the extra money. I know you are a value for money person.
The problem in massage shops is you usually don't get to interview the girl first to see if she will suit you. So its a lucky dip. Or take some highly recommended girl.
Soapies are lucky dip too. I have not done any great Soapy girls to recommend recently. Nadia in DokiDoki cost me 3700 Baht for 90 minutes. She was really good despite bolt-ONS. That is well over 100 Euros but got good service for the 90 minutes with body slide.
In Thermae café, price is reasonable, but many girls are looking for quickie with an Asian. My success rate there is really poor. Try some nudie bars but remember expensive. I like to try girls on street in Soi 4 sometimes if can find one with suitable looks. It is hit and miss but can get a girl for 1000 to 1500 Baht which is a better price than most options. That is comparable to a 50 Euro booking in an FKK.
In the end you have to realise that Bangkok is not actually that cheap, but you can get more time for your money than at FKK. I always took at least 60 minutes in FKK anyway so was not cheap for me.
If you get a girl to go with you for whole night, that becomes value for money, but be clear to find out what time she needs to leave and how many fucks will be possible.
She too mentioned there was a street here in BKK where there are a lot of African girls near Soi 4 but I have yet to find it.Try to have a look at soi 3. When you come from Sukhumvit it's not far on the right side of the street. A few years ago there was a kind of small disco around there where you have to enter a door and then go upstairs (by lift maybe but not sure). I think there was some African style stickers on the door downstairs. I've never been myself but there was a report about that place a few years ago and I personally saw some of these girls entering that door. I don't know if it's still there but you should go have a look and ask around for the black disco maybe.
I guess your theory of never posting any pictures of the girls you have been with doesn't work when you are typing up reports specifically using the girl's names and location.
I prefer to see photos of the girls rather than reports of encounters with no photos that give the girl's name.
That being said, there are the guys like the one you mentioned who show the girls the photos or read the girls the reports. I've never understood those type of assholes, but they are out there. As long as you keep that in mind when you post, it's all good.Essentially if we post photos of girls, doing anything sexual, we are outing them as hookers for the whole world to see, including Friends and family. That is the problem.
With a regular girl, she could be very pissed off by her photo appearing. If her face does not appear nor identifying marks, that helps.
Naming a girl (nickname) is not so bad as is not proof the girl is a hooker. Hundreds of girls could have the same nickname, and many girls are working under a pseudonym anyway. E. g. Other day mentioned Nira. Its not her real name, so it only seeks to advertise for guys that have a similar spec to me, to go have a look if they like her.
I do agree that I have almost never benefitted from a specific girl recommendation, always making my own choice, but others do benefit. They can at least have a look at the girl to see if she appeals.
Certainly some famous girls got tried based on their good reputation. E. g. Yok, Dao, Nestle at Tulip, Aor at Annies, many others. I even tried a highly recommended girl at S. W. Once and was disappointed. Bolt-ONS and GFE not good. Forgot name now. Learned the lesson though to stick to my own choice. Famous girls Cheer and Vodkha came recommended but I was disappointed by them, Cheer not hot enough for looks, and Vodkha pathetic non performance.
I certainly think recommended specific girls is not useful, if the poster cannot clearly state what made the girl so great and what her less good aspects are. We don't want girls oversold. Only realistic reports.
A report on a girl could influence me, if I am undecided to try her or not. Would rarely change my mind completely. I know what I like can vary greatly from another guy. There are some posters where I like their particular taste. Natty Bumpo chooses generally my type of girl for looks, with odd exception (surgeries usually). So if Natty tells me a girl is fab, I could believe. We once went in one of the Rainbows. His girl selected (already known) was by far the best girl in the bar to my eye. Lovely. Bad luck she was taken. She didn't last at that bar. Probably not suited to it. A very different style of girl. I chatted to another girl, but decided she was a not a good choice, and left empty handed. The bar improved though once a few girls took their tops off and could see they had nice real tits. Before that, the tits were an unknown.
If I see girls regularly privately, not in a specific bar or MP, then I don't name them. Some want to be very secret and may have unusual names.
Well, I always see one or two Thai gals that are doable. But, venture farther down the street and some of the Viets just blow the Thai gals out of the water. White skin, great facial features (non-surgically enhanced for the most part), and some ripping bodies combined with that great aggressive intense Vietnamese attitude. I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.A lot of talk about Viet girls. I grew up in a city with a lot of Viets. I used a travel agent with a stunning Viet girl once but she is really the only one I recall as super stunning. Most Viet girls in my home country were not that stunning and certainly not trying to be sexy either. Conservative. Unlike Thais and Filippinas, Viet girls did not mix greatly with the western community.
I searched for what Viet beauty is supposed to look like and include pics from web. The two single girls pics are my types. Could just as easily be Thais maybe. In the group pic, which are the best? I would probably pick top right girl (despite darker skin), even if none are really my spec, and top left as 2nd best (despite hairdo and nose job). Bottom left looks like a LB to me. I don't go for plastic looks is well known. Does Vietnam really have a lot of stunners or actually very few, based on my experience in home country?
Could easily be I have never fucked a Viet girl, or not knowingly. A buddy had a Viet GF, but she was not impressive. I have probably done girls from every SE Asian and East Asian country except for Vietnam, and also no native Balinese (not that pretty after age 16). Missed some Micronesian countries too. Ha ha. Despite no Viet girls done, I have done plenty of black girls from West Indies region and some from Africa. So clearly light skin is not driving me at all.
Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.
Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting."Could be doable". Not sounding sure. So you did not do any girls? Recommending only for he food in non air con environment? Not quite following. O.K. They do serve food. That is something.
Seems like your post just teases us slightly saying so little in the "plug". I would love more detail.
I make a great Masaman Chicken curry myself with all the spices. I never order it in Bangkok, because it usually is crappy, made so quickly, with not best ingredients. Needs to stew for extended time. Good curries taste better the 2nd day as well. In fact I never order coconut cream type curries at all. Hard to get a really good one. My exception is Hor Mok which is a curry set firm by egg white to become jelly like and often in a banana leaf. Best with fish and veg filling.
My point probably is I doubt we will go there for the food unless it is really special indeed. So more specifics about trying great girls would be better, or why the food is really outstanding. If you did some really hot girl, don't be shy, you can say so. If not, then that speaks for itself. I might be willing to go have a look there if I think the girls are better than Soi 4 for example. I have no clue about Beer Garden girl price ranges too.
BTW, There is an O.K. glass booth Thai food shop on Soi 4. I ate there a few times. Ha ha! Just stirring a little. Its not very relevant to getting a girl.
She told me where most of the black girls hang out and mentioned this African-Caribbean club down the road.Excellent Intel.
Where is this club?
Robert Long
10-03-19, 19:40
Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.The food and the music are great. The ladies are what they are. All I have talked to and taken have been very GFE. I don't like dealing with the bullshit in gogo bars. The buy me a drink, the Hussle to pay the bar fine, and the over all bad treatment that come from the girls.
You won't find any 8's 9's or 10's in the Beer Garden, but the ones you find are not in a hurry and they will give you the service you desire at a price that is realistic. No bar fine, and if your a real Cheap Charlie, no LD's.
RL.
The food and the music are great. The ladies are what they are. All I have talked to and taken have been very GFE. I don't like dealing with the bullshit in gogo bars. The buy me a drink, the Hussle to pay the bar fine, and the over all bad treatment that come from the girls.
You won't find any 8's 9's or 10's in the Beer Garden, but the ones you find are not in a hurry and they will give you the service you desire at a price that is realistic.
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RL.Are you finding that to be true if the service you desire is BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIP? Or is that not the level of GFE you generally ask for or expect?
I can't say I have gotten that level of Real Sex/True GFE service I desire at a realistic price with any Beer Garden Soi 7 lady above a 5 rating in looks out of dozens of encounters and chats during the past 5+ years.
I do find the food to be generally ok at a reasonable price but the music is often too loud for a place that is really all about chatting up the person next to you, not dancing and not sitting mute while watching girls dance on a stage. There is no reason to have it cranked up so loud two people sitting right next to each other have to raise their voices and repeat things over and over again to be heard and understood.
Also known in Germany as Biergarten has been a regular mid afternoon stop for me this trip. Just a plug to say they have really decent food there and good happy hour crowd. Curry chicken and crispy pork are my favorites. I will also say that the freelance quality seems to have improved over my visit last year. Couple of thin, younger looking ones could be doable. Great place for afternoon scouting.I like the crispy pork too. Quite nomnom. Unfortunately, any dessert is hit and miss. I pop my face in once a week or so and it's pretty hideous overall.
African girls are at the cart bars on Soi 7. Usually the dregs.
Took a quick run around the area on my way home on Wed. Thermae was full of hotties. There is one girl there who I have been watching for about a year, she has an absolutely gorgeous face and sometimes silver streaks in her hair, but she has a facial expression like she sucked lemons and is possibly, no indeed probably, one of those girls who knows she is good-looking and is just going to starfish you. I don't think she's enamored of farang either. But I think the time is coming when I am going to try to do her, and if she complies, I'm going to wipe that sour expression off of her face.
The best thing about Thermae is that half the time I'm in there, I'm the only white guy. I'm in there so much some of the regular girls there say Hi to me.
The street girls on Nana were predictably hideous. I love to watch the cheap Charlie's work these girls. I mean really? Arguing over 200 baht? The best was when I saw some old skeezy farang spend like 10 minutes talking to a girl and evidently a deal couldn't be reached. He left, and then the girl took off with an Indian guy. Winner.
I also wandered around Nana and cowboy, poking my head in here and there, buying a lady drink here and there for a couple of coyotes (pretties) I bang once in a while. I probably saw a dozen other coyotes overall who I recognized as being local pretties. For you tourists and occasional visitors, don't waste your time on coyotes and definitely don't waste your time on pretties, they take a little bit of work. If you do have the time, and have the money and game, pretties are the best.
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The best was when I saw some old skeezy farang spend like 10 minutes talking to a girl and evidently a deal couldn't be reached. He left, and then the girl took off with an Indian guy. Winner.
I also wandered around Nana and cowboy, poking my head in here and there, buying a lady drink here and there for a couple of coyotes (pretties) I bang once in a while. I probably saw a dozen other coyotes overall who I recognized as being local pretties. For you tourists and occasional visitors, don't waste your time on coyotes and definitely don't waste your time on pretties, they take a little bit of work. If you do have the time, and have the money and game, pretties are the best.That old skeezy farang might have been me hitting up a girl for either BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM vs the next guy who is fine with covered everything, except I never spend 10 minutes on the question on the street before getting a Yes or No and moving on with or without the girl accordingly. Closer to 30 seconds usually, if that much.
If by Coyotes/Pretties in Nana Plaza you are talking about the better looking door girls or the girls (the real females) who are hired to stand outside the bars holding up signs for a bar and trying to entice the customers into the bars, I have gotten some of my fastest and easiest upfront agreements for BBFS+CIP with those girls. Not so on Soi Cowboy though. I mean, not so with the ones on Soi Cowboy who tell you to your face they will not go barfine or back to your room when asked, of which there are many on that Soi. But the so-called Coyotes/Pretties in Nana Plaza have been some of my easiest deals to close for BBFS+CIP and never for more than, say, 500 baht above the going rate.
Interestingly, girls who work as Pretties (stand-out product reps in the various malls) that I have met on the dating sites are also quite easy to close a BBFS+CIP deal with compared to others. I have met and done 4-5 of them on the dating sites over the past couple of years.
Excellent Intel.
Where is this club?Can't remember the name but I'll ask again tonight and try to get more intel. When talking to others they said its too dark, too loud and everyone is smoking weed in there. LOL.
I like the crispy pork too. Quite nomnom. Unfortunately, any dessert is hit and miss. I pop my face in once a week or so and it's pretty hideous overall.
African girls are at the cart bars on Soi 7. Usually the dregs.
My recent quick look, I thought the black girls on Soi 7 early evening were above average for Bangkok, which is not really rating them just relative, having seen huge numbers of uglies in former times. If these are the dregs, please mention where the good ones are.
Do you simply mean the standard of black girls in Bangkok is generally poor? That I agree with. Only saw one super hot one I wanted to do badly in the last 2 years, but could not go for her with too many people knowing me in that place.
My recent quick look, I thought the black girls on Soi 7 early evening were above average for Bangkok, which is not really rating them just relative, having seen huge numbers of uglies in former times. If these are the dregs, please mention where the good ones are.
Do you simply mean the standard of black girls in Bangkok is generally poor? That I agree with. Only saw one super hot one I wanted to do badly in the last 2 years, but could not go for her with too many people knowing me in that place.I said what I said. Fugly flabby dirty looking big assed black monsters with feet like flippers and no dress sense. They are there soley to satisfy the needs of Arabs, Indians and those degenerate, desperate falangs who have been crawling around the jungles too long. Gross. For you guys that want that (an us Americans can get all the dark meat we want in the states and they are hella better looking). These ogs can be found on Soi 7 and sometimes Soi 4 down the street a ways. In my 30 ish years of coming to BKK, I have never seen a hot African chick. They only started arriving anyway after the Arab rush began in the late 80's.
The Lineup was fab last night, Friday, at Rainbow 3 and Thermae, but horrible at Mixx.
Robert Long
10-05-19, 08:50
Are you finding that to be true if the service you desire is BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIP? Or is that not the level of GFE you generally ask for or expect?
I can't say I have gotten that level of Real Sex/True GFE service I desire at a realistic price with any Beer Garden Soi 7 lady above a 5 rating in looks out of dozens of encounters and chats during the past 5+ years.
I do find the food to be generally ok at a reasonable price but the music is often too loud for a place that is really all about chatting up the person next to you, not dancing and not sitting mute while watching girls dance on a stage. There is no reason to have it cranked up so loud two people sitting right next to each other have to raise their voices and repeat things over and over again to be heard and understood.Have a few drinks and put on your beer googles and start talking to the ones on the right side as you enter. I've never paid over 2000 baht for a 2 hour service. Complete 3 hole if you desire, no condom, CIM, CIP, or on their chest. No bar fine, cheap LD's, and most are as horney as you are. The last one I took gave a great cat bath rim job.
After the first round she started crying and telling me about her problems. I stopped her in her tracts saying, I paid you for service not to listen to your problems. She got back to work on the second round and continued with satisfactory service.
The music is not that loud compared to the Go Go Bars. I hate CH because of the loud and terrible music. BG's music is acceptable and I love classic rock.
RL.
The music is not that loud compared to the Go Go Bars. I hate CH because of the loud and terrible music. BG's music is acceptable and I love classic rock.
RL.Many bars have a problem with their DJ. He may be too smart doing blending, use too much volume, and also use what someone described as "car alarm" stuff. Some young girls working in these places claimed to like the car alarm stuff.
There in lies a problem. Went to Jungle Jims and an old Farang was monopolizing the music selection. He chose really heavy rock videos not very musical mostly yelling from artists mostly unknown to me maybe from the Status Quo / Black Sabath / Suzie Q era (but not that good), not the big name rock stars, and frankly it was also horrible stuff to my ear, and the girls could not at all dance to it. The musical instrumentation was pretty rudimentary and poor in times long gone by. Live performances maybe.
I think they need to choose a compromise some where in between. Something danceable but pleasant to expat ear, does not have to be all very ancient, and I think some latin stuff can be a big help. Certainly the music has to appeal to the main customer age group, but not be too awful to the young girls. Some bars have got it pretty right, and some have got it very wrong. Crazy House has always been far too loud, and some really shit music, some acceptable. Does not seem to have scared all the customers away.
After 5 star take over, it moved to purely car alarm stuff and was far worse than Crazy House. I think they partially rectified it a bit, but still woeful.
Shark as example is better these days, but I still don't see girls readily able to dance to it. Sheba used to be a bar with a great selection unfortunately closed several years now.
Have a few drinks and put on your beer googles and start talking to the ones on the right side as you enter. I've never paid over 2000 baht for a 2 hour service. Complete 3 hole if you desire, no condom, CIM, CIP, or on their chest. No bar fine, cheap LD's, and most are as horney as you are. The last one I took gave a great cat bath rim job.
After the first round she started crying and telling me about her problems. I stopped her in her tracts saying, I paid you for service not to listen to your problems. She got back to work on the second round and continued with satisfactory service.
The music is not that loud compared to the Go Go Bars. I hate CH because of the loud and terrible music. BG's music is acceptable and I love classic rock.
RL.Hmm. You mean the ones sitting on the stools at your right side as you enter? And the ones gathered around the first bar area straight ahead just as you pass the ones on the stools?
Yep. Chatted up a few from those areas. Some even lept off their perch and followed me to the front of the bar in the rear of the room, closer to the toilets.
The answers were still No and No (BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM). For me, that is. Mind you, I am not much of a drinker, never get so drunk I lose normal vision and am only talking about the 6's or better from among them.
However, it has been a few months I think since the last time I met and chatted with a girl there. She said No and Yes (to the BBBJ+CIM). But it turned out she was lying. She was a Cum Dodger at crunch time. Waste of 1,000 baht, an hour of my life and a precious ejaculate. Or it might have been 1,500 baht, I have forgotten.
Steve 9696
10-05-19, 15:34
A lot of talk about Viet girls. I grew up in a city with a lot of Viets. I used a travel agent with a stunning Viet girl once but she is really the only one I recall as super stunning. Most Viet girls in my home country were not that stunning and certainly not trying to be sexy either. Conservative. Unlike Thais and Filippinas, Viet girls did not mix greatly with the western community.
I searched for what Viet beauty is supposed to look like and include pics from web. The two single girls pics are my types. Could just as easily be Thais maybe. In the group pic, which are the best? I would probably pick top right girl (despite darker skin), even if none are really my spec, and top left as 2nd best (despite hairdo and nose job). Bottom left looks like a LB to me. I don't go for plastic looks is well known. Does Vietnam really have a lot of stunners or actually very few, based on my experience in home country?
Could easily be I have never fucked a Viet girl, or not knowingly. A buddy had a Viet GF, but she was not impressive. I have probably done girls from every SE Asian and East Asian country except for Vietnam, and also no native Balinese (not that pretty after age 16). Missed some Micronesian countries too. Ha ha. Despite no Viet girls done, I have done plenty of black girls from West Indies region and some from Africa. So clearly light skin is not driving me at all.The place to fuck Viet Girls is China! Go figure. Climate is poor right now but Judy's and Manhattan in Shanghai are almost exclusively Viet. I think Viet is one of the prettiest girls in the world.
On Seeking Arrangement I saw a Viet Korean mix. Wow. Very nice. And am considering a girl who is Viet, Korean, and Mexican. OMG I love her pics. What a mix! ❤.
Oh and definitely upper right by a wide margin. Then lower right. Only one I really dislike is middle top. Too mannish for me.
I said what I said. Fugly flabby dirty looking big assed black monsters with feet like flippers and no dress sense..........These girls are not for pansies. Only true studs will get with them. Studs do not discriminate. STUDS DOMINATE! If you can satisfy them then go to the head of the class.
I met quite a few hot Viets in Macau. The specific MP was Familia Nobre. When in Thailand, I always avoid as bad service and poor attitude is almost always to be expected.
The hottest Viet I ever enjoyed was a girl on Cat Ba Island off the coast of Haiphong. It was at a massage parlor on main drag. I kept going back every night. There was a hotel down the street from there that cost me $8 a night and had a patio with a dramatic view of the harbor and town strip. The girls from the MP, including this girl, would walk down the street around sunset and hand out pamphlets advertising their massage services. I still remember the one I visited used to wear a cute chiffon type tangerine colored dress. Unfortunately, not much else to do there after exploring the nearby bay so finally returned to the mainland.
The place to fuck Viet Girls is China! Go figure. Climate is poor right now but Judy's and Manhattan in Shanghai are almost exclusively Viet. I think Viet is one of the prettiest girls in the world.
On Seeking Arrangement I saw a Viet Korean mix. Wow. Very nice. And am considering a girl who is Viet, Korean, and Mexican. OMG I love her pics. What a mix! ❤.
Oh and definitely upper right by a wide margin. Then lower right. Only one I really dislike is middle top. Too mannish for me.
desperate falangs who have been crawling around the jungles too long.That sounds like me.
The place to fuck Viet Girls is China! Go figure...Actually, there are many places, outside of Vietnam, that are full of Viet chicks, not just China. How about Singapore, Macau, Phnom Penh, Jakarta.
Member #4698
10-06-19, 04:04
Actually, there are many places, outside of Vietnam, that are full of Viet chicks, not just China. How about Singapore, Macau, Phnom Penh, Jakarta.I have shagged super hot Viet girls, as hot as any girls I have ever had, in Singapore (Brix Bar) and Jakarta (Hotel Alexis -now closed) and while it is true that there are a hell of a lot of Viet girls in Macau Saunas, my personal observation and experience is that the best looking sauna girls are Chinese (Mainland and Taiwan) and "Korean". I don't know why.
When I first visited Phnom Penh, almost 18 years ago, there were plenty of attractive Viet girls around, but this is not the case anymore. As for China; I think the good times there have mostly come to an end. I have no desire to go back to Shanghai or HKG both of which used to have a large contingent of attractive Viet working girls.
It's too bad Vietnam is rather punter unfriendly when it comes to the pursuit of our favorite sport. I would go there on my next trip if it were a little less hassle to pick up hot Viet girls there.
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It's too bad Vietnam is rather punter unfriendly when it comes to the pursuit of our favorite sport. I would go there on my next trip if it were a little less hassle to pick up hot Viet girls there.Not too sure Natty when you were last in Vietnam, but I have stayed in District 1 in HCM twice in the past six months and had no difficulty. Staying in a 5 star I found the hotel Concierge and WeCaht very helpful. Price seemed to be in the 1. 5 M dong for about two hours, delivered to your room.
Oh and definitely upper right by a wide margin. Then lower right. Only one I really dislike is middle top. Too mannish for me.Lower right would be 2nd last pic for me. Can't see the one "mannish" at all other than lower left girl looked like a LB to me, possibly with altered jawline. Maybe just an extra fake look about her. Top row look more natural or less obvious surgeries to me. Yes a few nose jobs, although I lack the experience to know the range of typical Viet girl looks, despite so many in the home country. Hardly met one in the work environment, don't know why (Viet males moreso). Did they all become housewives? The problem was they nearly all looked plain, so I payed little attention. Some of the Chinese, Philippina, Indonesian, Thai, etc. Girls were better looking, in the top 10% at least. Also some stunning dark girls from miscellaneous destinations, e. G. Mixed blood Mauritian girls in particular, and some hot Kenyan students.
Not too sure Natty when you were last in Vietnam, but I have stayed in District 1 in HCM twice in the past six months and had no difficulty. Staying in a 5 star I found the hotel Concierge and WeCaht very helpful. Price seemed to be in the 1. 5 M dong for about two hours, delivered to your room.Does this mean the girl was chosen for you. This would not work for most of us. We don't know if 1. 5 M Dong is expensive of not.
When I first visited Phnom Penh, almost 18 years ago, there were plenty of attractive Viet girls around, but this is not the case anymore.Om.
Nom Penh in the late 90's early 00's was amazing. Those Viets were 5 USD ST and could be had LT, and that LT could be from 10 am till the next morning, for 20 USD. They were all pretty skilled as well. And don't think any of them had babies.
Om.
Nom Penh in the late 90's early 00's was amazing. Those Viets were 5 USD ST and could be had LT, and that LT could be from 10 am till the next morning, for 20 USD. They were all pretty skilled as well. And don't think any of them had babies.Can I ask a maybe dumb question. What made Viet girls go to Phnom Penh? Would they not have been better off in Thailand, given Cambodian girls were so cheap? Or perhaps they are not in Cambodia much now due to prices rising so much in Thailand, and perhaps less in Cambodia? Just speculating without personal knowledge.
Can I ask a maybe dumb question. What made Viet girls go to Phnom Penh? Would they not have been better off in Thailand, given Cambodian girls were so cheap? They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.
Cheers. G.
They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.
Cheers. G.Thanks for that. I have not really been with any trafficked girls recently, and no Viet girls. I have to think back to days when I was trying Nataree (long ago) when would meet trafficked or contract girls and before that at Mona Lisa. Some in Europe but they were more secretive, about their personal circumstances.
Never really liked Nataree because of the trafficking situation. Some girls admitted freely where they came from, usually were not very good performers, and others pretended to be from Chiang Rai but sometimes that was doubtful.
Thanks for that. I have not really been with any trafficked girls recently, and no Viet girls. I have to think back to days when I was trying Nataree (long ago) when would meet trafficked or contract girls and before that at Mona Lisa. Some in Europe but they were more secretive, about their personal circumstances.
Never really liked Nataree because of the trafficking situation. Some girls admitted freely where they came from, usually were not very good performers, and others pretended to be from Chiang Rai but sometimes that was doubtful.I'd agree that we operate in a world that is pretty girls and bright lights on the surface but if you dig deeper some areas can get very seedy very quickly.
Cheers. G.
They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.
Cheers. G.I would say that in the seedier areas you are probably correct, however the town was littered with Viet FLs at the time. In the mid-00's the Cambodian gov made a push to get rid of the Viet working girls and did.
Member #4667
10-08-19, 01:18
They didn't get a vote. They were paying off their family's debt and went where ever the owner of that debt trafficked them.
Cheers. G.Whilst this answer is correct its not entirely accurate. The Viet girls in pp now and especially from the 90's are not Viet nationals IE no Vietnamese passport or ID card. Instead these girls are ones whose parents went to Cambodia for opportunities pre khymer rouge days and was stuck there and so now live in Cambodia without Cambodian passport or ID card due to Cambodian racist attitudes towards Vietnamese. So yes once they incur debts they cannot go overseas to earn more nor can the debt owners traffic them overseas. You can still find Vietnamese Cambodians working in local brothels for 10 usd, though now with all the foreigners, Vietnamese girls who are generally better looking than Cambodians know they can get premium prices, so much so that Vietnamese nationals often go to Cambodia to earn more than they do in Vietnamese.
You don't even need to go back to 90's in 2008 it was still 5 usd, 10 usd if you didn't bargain.
Does this mean the girl was chosen for you. This would not work for most of us. We don't know if 1. 5 M Dong is expensive of not.With the hotel concierge I had to take what was on offer, but I could have refused for the price of the "taxi" fare. Not sure what that would have been, but not much I assume as 1. 5 m Dong is about US $75-80 ish so the bank won't be broken. With WeChat you take your chances based on the fact that the ladies pictures could be old / Photoshopped / not real.
Both of my hotel transactions were at the New World in District 1, both had the same weird intro. The girls rung my room when they were close to arriving in the hotel and both times the girls asked me to meet them in the foyer. Once I got to the foyer and I was identified as the right person the girl rushed over to me with a bottle of wine, very publicly and theatrically given to me. The purpose which I found out later was to give the impression we were long acquainted friends to avail us of easy access to my room. I thought this was very generous of the ladies until I went to have a drink of the wine a few days later. Revolting, and I assume VERY cheap!
The girls were a bit hit and miss. The girl the concierge got me was fine and strongly performed. The WeChat lady was very forgettable with the worst baby damage I have witnessed. In the case of the latter, thankfully vitamin V came to the rescue or it just wasn't going to happen.
(Late acknowledgement that I could also has posted this in the VN forum.)
With the hotel concierge I had to take what was on offer, but I could have refused for the price of the "taxi" fare. Not sure what that would have been, but not much I assume as 1. 5 m Dong is about US $75-80 ish so the bank won't be broken. With WeChat you take your chances based on the fact that the ladies pictures could be old / Photoshopped / not real.
(Late acknowledgement that I could also has posted this in the VN forum.)Thanks, a nice report. It is useful to get a comparison for us who have never mongered in Vietnam. In fact I have not been there. I once intended to holiday there, but accidently obtained a Thai GF first, so why would I want to go to Vietnam when could go to Thailand with her? Even today, I am hampered that I can't secretly visit countries, with passport stamps, with no valid reasons. A trip to Pattaya would be much easier since no extra passport markings.
I could do a Visa run to Vietnam though if it looked attractive, however, tend to take the quickest and cheapest these days.
I'd agree that we operate in a world that is pretty girls and bright lights on the surface but if you dig deeper some areas can get very seedy very quickly.
Cheers. G.I even used to have arguments on this forum about how bad the situation was at Nataree a while before they got closed down. Some guys were denying those things were still going on. Others just turned a blind eye and did not need to know, which I have no problem with. I heard a lot from girls perhaps due to Thai language ability. I used to slip small cash tips to girls secretly at Nataree, because was aware they received virtually nothing from the up front session payment due to their managers receiving the money and "repayment of contract debt".
I hated to see the faces of those guys, some of which could be the girl managers.
ColinBakerKing
10-08-19, 07:57
Whilst this answer is correct its not entirely accurate. The Viet girls in pp now and especially from the 90's are not Viet nationals IE no Vietnamese passport or ID card. Instead these girls are ones whose parents went to Cambodia for opportunities pre khymer rouge days and was stuck there and so now live in Cambodia without Cambodian passport or ID card due to Cambodian racist attitudes towards Vietnamese. So yes once they incur debts they cannot go overseas to earn more nor can the debt owners traffic them overseas. You can still find Vietnamese Cambodians working in local brothels for 10 usd, though now with all the foreigners, Vietnamese girls who are generally better looking than Cambodians know they can get premium prices, so much so that Vietnamese nationals often go to Cambodia to earn more than they do in Vietnamese.
You don't even need to go back to 90's in 2008 it was still 5 usd, 10 usd if you didn't bargain.There are a lot of ethnic Vietnamese living on the Tonle Sap lake. They often have been there for 2 or 3 generations and aren't allowed to become Cambodian nationals due to Cambodian ethnicity laws. They aren't allowed passports so can't leave the country, they can't own land so they live in houses on the lake. Sad situation. In recent years many have been "floating" down river back to Vietnam where they can get residency and eventually a passport and some kind of normal life.
Hi brothers,
I would be visiting bkk this Oct late.
I have been following the forum for sometime.
I have known smoochi, dokidoki, tulip, snow-white from the reports.
Can anyone recommend some therapist from the mentioned spas or additional which aren't mentioned.
I dint find any website for tulip. Heard Ying is one of the best.
I would be visiting huahin also heard there aren't much options.
I like meaty women.
My pm is open.
Thanks.
Kabir.
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