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Hopefully the world will be my oyster! However, how much USD would you expect to spend for 7 nights of fun in the city? Looking at some of the reports, seems like a two to three hundred per night is not out of the ordinary. Is that accurate? We are staying near Thermae, and will plan on doing most of the shopping in that area. On an earlier query, it was suggested about 1500 for 20 days, but after seeing bar fines, prices and an a possible trip to Maria, seems like that is a bit on the light side. Thanks for the advice!
Took a walk down to Soi Cowboy yesterday lots of attendants around none peaked my.
Interest most of them seemed not interested or were chasing.
The Koreans or Japanese. Not much has changed since I.
Lived here years ago. Except for the cost of drinks and the.
Bar fine. My perception is that the younger ones are not worth.
The hassle. Walking pass Thermae there were a lot of girls around.
But it's difficult to know lady vs ladyboy. A few approached.
Me but 2 K for a 4 or 5 I passed.
I hope that others have better luck.
Took a walk down to Soi Cowboy yesterday lots of attendants around none peaked my.
Interest most of them seemed not interested or were chasing.
The Koreans or Japanese. Not much has changed since I.
Lived here years ago. Except for the cost of drinks and the.
Bar fine. My perception is that the younger ones are not worth.
The hassle. Walking pass Thermae there were a lot of girls around.
But it's difficult to know lady vs ladyboy. A few approached.
Me but 2 K for a 4 or 5 I passed.
I hope that others have better luck.If you had gone inside thermae, there are some nice selections.
Steve 9696
07-30-23, 12:42
Full report coming but here are some quick thoughts. Three girls day one.
Haven. It was early but 4's and 5's. Pool table dark and toddler running around. Yikes. Left in a hurry. Avoid.
7-Heaven. BJ bar w tablet pictures. Nice attentive girls. Moderately pretty. Great service. 1300 Baht. Recommend.
Billboard and Butterflies. Wow. Some posters had said these are OK. I think they are fucking great. Clearly same owner and format. 30-40 girls in Billboard. All doable and some super pretty girls here. Get a ring side seat at Billboard and the rotating stage. Camel toe, spike heels, and tits for miles. Maybe slightly fewer in Butterflies. Equal quality. We each took a hottie. 4700 including bar fine. Great girls both.
Angelwitch. Checked it out but quality was low. Maybe one or two doable. Rock theme. Wouldn't repeat.
Bunny. Someone said this was good and I agree. Only maybe ten girls but all pretty. Two girls descended on me. One was massaging the fuck out of my dick right in full view of the club. Took a girl from here. 4000 including bar fine. Super time.
CityHunter77
07-30-23, 12:54
Full report coming but here are some quick thoughts. Three girls day one.
Billboard and Butterflies. Wow. Some posters had said these are OK. I think they are fucking great. Clearly same owner and format. 30-40 girls in Billboard. All doable and some super pretty girls here. Get a ring side seat at Billboard and the rotating stage. Camel toe, spike heels, and tits for miles. Maybe slightly fewer in Butterflies. Equal quality. We each took a hottie. 4700 including bar fine. Great girls both.
Bunny. Someone said this was good and I agree. Only maybe ten girls but all pretty. Two girls descended on me. One was massaging the fuck out of my dick right in full view of the club. Took a girl from here. 4000 including bar fine. Super time.Thanks for the update.
Prices are ST and on the premises?
Waiting for friend (s) to pick her up she said.
I don't get the attitude you say from Western girls. I did approach a beautiful western woman (again, about 20 years younger than me) sitting outside a massage "spa" next to the gym I was about to enter a few days ago. She was indeed completely disinterested, but that was all there was to it.
I attribute much of the warmer welcome to the added one or two points I think us white folks get here (excluding the smelly drunks in the wife-beaters). I have no doubt that if you look like Henry Cavill, the girl you mentioning turning her head away would be all smiles and giggly from the point you said "Hello". Adding a point or two does not make me Henry Cavill, but I guess it raises me slightly above Gollum.I agree with you, being Caucasian gets you farther in Thailand when it comes to the ladies. I'm not Caucasian but that's my opinion based on observations. It's simple, Asian girls love Caucasian dudes.
As far as your Cavill comment, yes, if a girl finds you attractive she'll see you as being confident for approaching her. If she finds she unattractive she'll see you as being a creep.
The above are simple realities of dating and game. But I think most guys are in denial.
Steve 9696
07-30-23, 19:22
Thanks for the update.
Prices are ST and on the premises?Yes ST. But not on prem other than BJ bar. The gogos don't have on prem. So takeout to my room.
Hopefully the world will be my oyster! However, how much USD would you expect to spend for 7 nights of fun in the city? Looking at some of the reports, seems like a two to three hundred per night is not out of the ordinary. Is that accurate? We are staying near Thermae, and will plan on doing most of the shopping in that area. On an earlier query, it was suggested about 1500 for 20 days, but after seeing bar fines, prices and an a possible trip to Maria, seems like that is a bit on the light side. Thanks for the advice!This all depends on what you're doing. Are you getting girls every day or even multiple girls a day? Are you doing high end restaurants? Are you drinking a lot? Are you going to get conned into buying lady drinks at gogos? Are you trying to BF high end girls or low. Are you going to stay at a high end hotel?
You can go to an MP and pay 2000-2500 baht for 2 hours of time. You can get a streetwalker for ST or LT for a variety of prices. You can go to high end clubs or escorts and pay much much more.
Waiting for friend (s) to pick her up she said.
I don't get the attitude you say from Western girls. I did approach a beautiful western woman (again, about 20 years younger than me) sitting outside a massage "spa" next to the gym I was about to enter a few days ago. She was indeed completely disinterested, but that was all there was to it.
I attribute much of the warmer welcome to the added one or two points I think us white folks get here (excluding the smelly drunks in the wife-beaters). I have no doubt that if you look like Henry Cavill, the girl you mentioning turning her head away would be all smiles and giggly from the point you said "Hello". Adding a point or two does not make me Henry Cavill, but I guess it raises me slightly above Gollum.She's a young college girl on vacation in Thailand to get fucked up and going to go drinking with her friends and people she met at the hostel and sees some old guy approach her on the street, yeah she's not interested here or at home man. Nothing unexpected.
Tvataham274
07-30-23, 23:34
Howdy all.
Got a few questions. I've skimmed the last 5 pages and have been keeping up for a bit longer, but I have a few questions that I haven't been able to find an answer for.
Planning a second trip to Pattaya this winter and I want to spend a few days in BKK. I want to go to the massage shops that offer nuru (soapies in Pattaya are meh).
I don't want to spend my whole time in BKK, just a few days, either at the beginning or end of my trip (just depends on when my inbound and outbound flights are tbh).
Here are a couple of places I've bookmarked. Not much, and honestly not entirely sure if I want to go if it means I need to entirely re-learn the lay of the land.
https://i.imgur.com/cULuPZG.png
What's the best way to travel around? 3 KM is a bit far to walk. Are there baht buses or the equivalent here? Is Bangkok as walkable as Central Pattaya? What's there to know about visiting and getting around Bangkok specifically that isn't also applicable to Pattaya?
Much obliged.
Howdy all.
Got a few questions. I've skimmed the last 5 pages and have been keeping up for a bit longer, but I have a few questions that I haven't been able to find an answer for.
Planning a second trip to Pattaya this winter and I want to spend a few days in BKK. I want to go to the massage shops that offer nuru (soapies in Pattaya are meh).
I don't want to spend my whole time in BKK, just a few days, either at the beginning or end of my trip (just depends on when my inbound and outbound flights are tbh).
Here are a couple of places I've bookmarked. Not much, and honestly not entirely sure if I want to go if it means I need to entirely re-learn the lay of the land.
https://i.imgur.com/cULuPZG.png
What's the best way to travel around? 3 KM is a bit far to walk. Are there baht buses or the equivalent here? Is Bangkok as walkable as Central Pattaya? What's there to know about visiting and getting around Bangkok specifically that isn't also applicable to Pattaya?
Much obliged.You don't want to spend a little on a taxi. They are cheap in BKK compared to most of the world. If time were not limited get a BTS card and use it.
HorseTrader
07-31-23, 01:16
What's the best way to travel around? 3 KM is a bit far to walk.I tend to stay at a hotel near a BTS or MRT station. BTS is easier for beginners becaue you can see it from a distance and it takes you to all the lower sukhumvit sights (e.g., Nana, Cowboy, Soi 24, etc.).
Taxi is cheaper than in western country.
Tuktuk is usually less expensive than taxi and they zig-zag through traffic for a faster journey.
MachchiBaba
07-31-23, 02:11
I've been in the Sukhumvit area for a few weeks now and aside from mongering my primary hobby has been people watching.
In places like Terminal 21 and Benchakitti park one sees several Thai female, Frarang male couples. In Pattaya I would immediately assume that the relationship represents a sex tourist and sex worker on an ST / LT or week long procurement but here I wonder how many of these situations are more conventional non or semi-transactional arrangements?
Many of the Thai women are stunning but sometimes a somewhat plain girl will appear on the arm of a man who would clearly shoot higher if he was spending.
Many farangs here are young, good looking long term expats and it's hard to see them choosing sex workers when they probably could get a civilian.
What do experienced Bangkok board members think of this? What is the breakdown of these parings as far as paid relationships or less transactional romances? 50/50 ? 40/60 ?
The sheer number of couples makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong as all I seem to be able to get is the transactional ST / LT which is unfulfilling to me. I don't really feel like a stud walking around with a girl on my arm who I'm paying for and I feel like there must be some secret sauce that some of these guys are using when I observe the real, genuine chemistry they have with their beautiful dates. I know the point of this site is P4 P but does anyone here have experience in Bangkok with civilians or semi-civilians (if there is such a thing)?
Thanks.I have been in this forum for sometime but I have not posted a report thus far. Well, this post somehow connected with my latest experience (s), maybe you might have seen me in Terminal 21. LOL. Firstly, I have no Farang looks, average south east asian brown skinned guy from the SF Bay Area, The Silicon Valley as many people call it or know. My work makes me travel to Asia and Europe, while in Asia I try and keep aside a couple of days or more for personal use (in BKK). I have been doing this since 2010 . I almost always stay at the Hyatt Erawan or The Intercontinental and my only place (s) to venture out were the Spasso's bar (for those of you who know it) and the Mixx bar. Outside of that I had a +66 contact who sent me an exclusive WhatsApp menu of just arrived Eastern European ladies. So my 2-4 days BKK trip was alway pretty well packed.
After COVID, I heard Spasso's closed its 'The after 10 pm gig', so I started looking for similar options elsewhere. Unfortunately, I did not find a similar place anywhere in any of the 5 Star Hotels in BKK. I am all ears if I should know something.
I personally don't enjoy the GoGo bars or any of the Soi 11 bars, I seem of enjoy a bit of exclusivity in this area, so my hunt usually revolves around it. I learned last year that Tinder is a place to find potentially exclusive local girls. I spend some time on it and I ended up scheduling few girls. Most of them quoted me 10 k baht to spend the night / day with me. I met a girl 24 years old in July last year, she had a great professional job, very well educated with great English language skills, sounded pretty exclusive to me. She said she doesn't do this but would meet with me to give it a try, I took that with a grain of salt off course. All said and done, I have to admit, I probably had the best sex with her relative to anything I had before. She ended up staying with me the entire 2-3 days I was there. I offered her some 35 k baht, I can't remember. I wasn't carrying cash, so I asked her if I could PayPal her, she suggested I could use Wise.
I saw her again in few weeks while I flying back. We wandered around Terminal 21, various Sois there and also Thong Lor. After that, I came home and been in contact with her ever since on Line. We decided that we should spend more time in BKK together, so we did. I ended up going to BKK for few weeks. As far as the money part, I don't even know how much I have paid so far, may be several hundred of thousands of baht, but I don't really care much because I am looking at this relative to what it would cost me in EU or elsewhere to monger, roughly 2-3 k USD for 18 hours with an escorts, so this is much better deal for me, I am not a FKK frequenter BTW but would rather use escort services like - https://www.aphrodite-agency.com/en in EU. I had / have a good time for sure in BKK and I am still in touch and enjoy the remote GF experience!
Howdy all.
Got a few questions. I've skimmed the last 5 pages and have been keeping up for a bit longer, but I have a few questions that I haven't been able to find an answer for.
Planning a second trip to Pattaya this winter and I want to spend a few days in BKK. I want to go to the massage shops that offer nuru (soapies in Pattaya are meh).
I don't want to spend my whole time in BKK, just a few days, either at the beginning or end of my trip (just depends on when my inbound and outbound flights are tbh).
Here are a couple of places I've bookmarked. Not much, and honestly not entirely sure if I want to go if it means I need to entirely re-learn the lay of the land.
https://i.imgur.com/cULuPZG.png
What's the best way to travel around? 3 KM is a bit far to walk. Are there baht buses or the equivalent here? Is Bangkok as walkable as Central Pattaya? What's there to know about visiting and getting around Bangkok specifically that isn't also applicable to Pattaya?
Much obliged.There are no baht buses and you will need to entirely re-learn the lay of the land, so unless you have time to that, I'd probably just stay at the place I know already if sex is my main reason for coming.
It took me some weeks to figure out how to move around here. Yes, taxis are cheap, and distances are not great on the map, but do it wrong and you can spend two hours in a taxi and barely move 5 km.
Just getting a taxi from the wrong side of the road can easily add half an hour to your 45 minute trip.
You need to know how to combine the train system with taxis and motorbike taxis. I'm a motorbikerider myself, but I do not at all enjoy using motorbike taxis here, though they are an unfortunate necessity.
BlackThought
07-31-23, 04:15
Well, I am looking at beautiful high end indies / chicks that are not getting banged or barfined 3-4 times a day. Thats a No for me. Looking for beautiful bodies and faces and younger tight lips if you know what I mean. If you have anything to add please do.Maria's had the best looking girls in my experience. Costs significantly more tho. Ranges from.
$200-600.
Steve 9696
07-31-23, 05:35
So we took a peek in Soi Cowboy since it opens earlier than Billboard say. Wasn't terribly impressed. We prob went in 5-6 places and all girls fully bikinis. Exception was Crazy House which is around the corner to the right at the end. Def worth a visit. Naked pussy on stage and girls are pretty enough. Really nice place to hang. Recommend.
Back at Nana steer clear of Red Dragon. Lots of hot girls but when you agree to laddies drink they bring TWO at 220 each. So you are at 440 Baht without blinking an eye. Didn't like that business practice so we left. But def pretty girls. No issue there.
Billboard just totally rules. Packed with girls and customers and adore the rotating stage. They wore black tonight so the camel toe was not the same. Boo. But still a great time.
Ended up going back to butterflies and staying for a while before grabbing our two same girls from last night and headed out. Rather than just go fuck went to 7-11 and got beer and then ordered some room service and danced and partied in my friends suite. Eventually took my girl to the bedroom and smashed. Really fun time. Def recommend Butterflies and Billboard. One of my new fave destinations worldwide. Right up there with Scandallo in São Paulo for tons of doable pussy in a fun atmosphere.
Chan Chalupa
07-31-23, 08:30
I have been in this forum for sometime but I have not posted a report thus far. Well, this post somehow connected with my latest experience (s), maybe you might have seen me in Terminal 21. LOL. Firstly, I have no Farang looks, average south east asian brown skinned guy from the SF Bay Area, The Silicon Valley as many people call it or know. My work makes me travel to Asia and Europe, while in Asia I try and keep aside a couple of days or more for personal use (in BKK). I have been doing this since 2010 . I almost always stay at the Hyatt Erawan or The Intercontinental and my only place (s) to venture out were the Spasso's bar (for those of you who know it) and the Mixx bar. Outside of that I had a +66 contact who sent me an exclusive WhatsApp menu of just arrived Eastern European ladies. So my 2-4 days BKK trip was alway pretty well packed.
After COVID, I heard Spasso's closed its 'The after 10 pm gig', so I started looking for similar options elsewhere. Unfortunately, I did not find a similar place anywhere in any of the 5 Star Hotels in BKK. I am all ears if I should know something.
I personally don't enjoy the GoGo bars or any of the Soi 11 bars, I seem of enjoy a bit of exclusivity in this area, so my hunt usually revolves around it. I learned last year that Tinder is a place to find potentially exclusive local girls. I spend some time on it and I ended up scheduling few girls. Most of them quoted me 10 k baht to spend the night / day with me. I met a girl 24 years old in July last year, she had a great professional job, very well educated with great English language skills, sounded pretty exclusive to me. She said she doesn't do this but would meet with me to give it a try, I took that with a grain of salt off course. All said and done, I have to admit, I probably had the best sex with her relative to anything I had before. She ended up staying with me the entire 2-3 days I was there. I offered her some 35 k baht, I can't remember. I wasn't carrying cash, so I asked her if I could PayPal her, she suggested I could use Wise.
I saw her again in few weeks while I flying back. We wandered around Terminal 21, various Sois there and also Thong Lor. After that, I came home and been in contact with her ever since on Line. We decided that we should spend more time in BKK together, so we did. I ended up going to BKK for few weeks. As far as the money part, I don't even know how much I have paid so far, may be several hundred of thousands of baht, but I don't really care much because I am looking at this relative to what it would cost me in EU or elsewhere to monger, roughly 2-3 k USD for 18 hours with an escorts, so this is much better deal for me, I am not a FKK frequenter BTW but would rather use escort services like - https://www.aphrodite-agency.com/en in EU. I had / have a good time for sure in BKK and I am still in touch and enjoy the remote GF experience!Are you Indian?
About this great professional job she has. Did you Verify? Odd she can just take off when she wants. Hahaha.
You don't want to spend a little on a taxi. They are cheap in BKK compared to most of the world. If time were not limited get a BTS card and use it.Its 3. 4 km approx from Soi Cowboy down to Thermae, then down to 7/1, then across to Nana, then down Soi Nana and over to Soi 8 through the passage and back across the street to Soi 11.
If you take Cowboy out, and start at Thermae you save about a klick. Plenty of goodies in that area, take a walkaround and stop here and there. I'm 67 and do it regularly.
Tvataham274
07-31-23, 17:52
Thanks for the replies. I do not intend to stay very long in BKK, but I think I'll pass. I know Pattaya much better, so I'll get enough tail there. Nunu can wait for another time.
Cheers.
Yes, avoid Red Dragon as they are famous for clipping customers. Stickman has noted this as well. Need to go to Crazy House sometimes. Always forget as it's not directly on Soi Cowboy. I have had fun at the live music venue at corner of the Soi called Kozy Kazy or something similar. They have BMD girls there but think some are take out and many are fun to hang with. Billboard is the best as you note in NEP.
So we took a peek in Soi Cowboy since it opens earlier than Billboard say. Wasn't terribly impressed. We prob went in 5-6 places and all girls fully bikinis. Exception was Crazy House which is around the corner to the right at the end. Def worth a visit. Naked pussy on stage and girls are pretty enough. Really nice place to hang. Recommend.
Back at Nana steer clear of Red Dragon. Lots of hot girls but when you agree to laddies drink they bring TWO at 220 each. So you are at 440 Baht without blinking an eye. Didn't like that business practice so we left. But def pretty girls. No issue there.
Billboard just totally rules. Packed with girls and customers and adore the rotating stage. They wore black tonight so the camel toe was not the same. Boo. But still a great time.
Ended up going back to butterflies and staying for a while before grabbing our two same girls from last night and headed out. Rather than just go fuck went to 7-11 and got beer and then ordered some room service and danced and partied in my friends suite. Eventually took my girl to the bedroom and smashed. Really fun time. Def recommend Butterflies and Billboard. One of my new fave destinations worldwide. Right up there with Scandallo in So Paulo for tons of doable pussy in a fun atmosphere.
Steve 9696
07-31-23, 23:46
So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. Boo. I guess every rose has its thorns.
Went to Kasalong to rub one out because it's like two blocks away. Yikes. That's divey and run down. 40's lady took me straight up w no choice of girls. And wow it's def not nice facilities at all. Feels dirty and cheap. Managed to give a credible BJ and I shot in her mouth after a few minutes. But def no comparison to 7-Heaven.
Def an off night for me but at least got a shot off!
Piece of advice: 1300 at 7 Heaven is def worth it vs 800 at Kasalong. No comparison in girls and facilities. Like not even same universe.
Fortunately I’m flying a legit 9.5 model (who i was with via Seeking Arrangements in Madrid) to Majorca for three days starting tomorrow. Not even a sex fail and Kasalong can dampen my boner!
So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. Boo. I guess every rose has its thorns.
Went to Kasalong to rub one out because it's like two blocks away. Yikes. That's divey and run down. 40's lady took me straight up w no choice of girls. And wow it's def not nice facilities at all. Feels dirty and cheap. Managed to give a credible BJ and I shot in her mouth after a few minutes. But def no comparison to 7-Heaven.
Def an off night for me but at least got a shot off!
Piece of advice: 1300 at 7 Heaven is def worth it vs 800 at Kasalong. No comparison in girls and facilities. Like not even same universe.
Fortunately Im flying a legit 9.5 model (who i was with via Seeking Arrangements in Madrid) to Majorca for three days starting tomorrow. Not even a sex fail and Kasalong can dampen my boner!Once she refused to do BBBJ, you should have told her to get dressed, and marched her right back to the bar and asked or your bar fine back. I'm sorry but paying what was agreed to for terrible service does nothing but allow these girls to continue poor service and bad behavior. If you would have returned to the bar with her the mamasan would not have been happy with her.
Steve 9696
08-01-23, 01:22
It's quite obvious these are owned by the same guy or a copycat because they are nearly carbon copies of each other. However I do have a belated observation.
I noticed a lot more fake tits at Billboard. The girls at Butterflies seemed more natural and I pointed this out to my buddy who agreed. Then having taken two girls from each place, our Butterfly girls were 21 and 24. And our Billboard girls were 32 and 36 (but looked great). Of course th older age would correlate with fake boobs to keep a younger look.
Certainly not factual but that is our observation of the two. Younger and less experienced at butterflies (a plus for me) and perhaps a slightly older more pro crowd at Billboard. I wonder if others have similar observations?
P.S. As a club Billboard is a bit more crowded and lively tho both are good.
Houston Player
08-01-23, 01:48
So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.
Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.He is including the barfine of 700 in the cost plus 4000 for the girl. Some girls are asking that for ST now at Billboard.
Steve 9696
08-01-23, 02:41
Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.I am sure I am paying some gringo tax but it doesn't worry me much. Billboard and Butterflies were both 4000 to girl and 700 bar fine. They gave the 4 K to the girl in the club in front of you but they probably have to rebate out if that. Bunny was 3000 and 1000.
Are you saying you personally have taken from Billboard and Butterflies recently at 3000 for the girl? Yes I spoke w Mamasan as I thought was the way here. My buddy is from Asia and that is standard. I am sure the group would benefit if you are saying that is wrong thing.
Happy regardless with my first two pulls.
Chan Chalupa
08-01-23, 03:32
He is including the barfine of 700 in the cost plus 4000 for the girl. Some girls are asking that for ST now at Billboard.This is getting out of hand.
1. Naba Plaza is not 700 barfine.
2. I doubt any agogo in Nana has 10 out of ten Hot girls.
3. How can there be a Vibe at ButterFleas?. Almost 9 pm 3 % Full. LOL. Hahaha. Could be in error on this one. If Rainbows are struggling you Darn know everyplace else is too.
I am sure I am paying some gringo tax but it doesn't worry me much. Billboard and Butterflies were both 4000 to girl and 700 bar fine. They gave the 4 K to the girl in the club in front of you but they probably have to rebate out if that. Bunny was 3000 and 1000.
Are you saying you personally have taken from Billboard and Butterflies recently at 3000 for the girl? Yes I spoke w Mamasan as I thought was the way here. My buddy is from Asia and that is standard. I am sure the group would benefit if you are saying that is wrong thing.
Happy regardless with my first two pulls.Thanks for the reports.
Unless I misread it, your "first two pulls" were the same girl from Butterflies and in all three cases you paid the girl's 3,000 baht quoted fee upfront in the bar, right?
Of course, Your Mileage May Vary as usual. But in my experience your getting a happy experience with the first Butterflies girl after paying her fee upfront in the bar was the rare exception result, a truely rare gem of a girl, while the result you got with the second Butterflies girl, your third pull that turned out to be a disaster, would be the norm in a pay upfront arrangement.
Additionally, I'm guessing you did not specify anything upfront before paying the money in the bar regarding DFK, BBBJ, BBFSCIP or whatever it was that made that first girl experience so happy but that the second girl felt she had no reason to provide anything. Which, unless you did get a specific upfront agreement for those things from that second girl, she is pretty much within her rights to refuse doing them and keep the 3,000 baht you paid upfront.
So, if that is how it was with no upfront agreement from her to do anything that you expected to happen for the money in order for you to be happy about it, "going with the flow and seeing what happens in the room" so to speak, then marching back to the bar to complain might have been interesting for all involved and might possibly have made the mamasan unhappy. But, imo, it would not have been an inspiration for the mamasan or the girl to give your money back or to do anything different for the next guy who comes along.
For me, unless I ask for it upfront before I pay the money and get a clear and unambiguous Yes reply to it, it is highly unlikely it will happen in the room. No matter what it is. And paying the girl's fee upfront instead of after the sex session at any point whether it is paid upfront in the bar or paid upfront 5 seconds before gets into bed is the best way to ensure an unhappy experience for me.
Once she refused to do BBBJ, you should have told her to get dressed, and marched her right back to the bar and asked or your bar fine back. I'm sorry but paying what was agreed to for terrible service does nothing but allow these girls to continue poor service and bad behavior. If you would have returned to the bar with her the mamasan would not have been happy with her.Amen. If not sure about the girl, before doing anything else in the room, I always test the water with a BJ first. Avoids subsequent problems with the girl saying "but we did blah-blah-blah, so should pay half at least".
Did nothing, pay nothing. Don't get angry of course. Just say you want to cancel.
Steve 9696
08-01-23, 06:31
Amen. If not sure about the girl, before doing anything else in the room, I always test the water with a BJ first. Avoids subsequent problems with the girl saying "but we did blah-blah-blah, so should pay half at least".
Did nothing, pay nothing. Don't get angry of course. Just say you want to cancel.Like most situations there is the right think to do and the easy thing to do. The right thing is of course to walk ten minutes back to the club and have an argument. The easy thing to do is send her home and go get a BJ a block away.
So yeah. I know the right thing. But I chose the easy thing. And was happy lightening my balls down the street and hitting the sack.
MohdirFan82
08-01-23, 08:25
This is why my first stop after landing is 7 heaven.
Worth every penny.
Dao is my fav, she treat me like her long lost boyfriend.
So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. Boo. I guess every rose has its thorns.
Went to Kasalong to rub one out because it's like two blocks away. Yikes. That's divey and run down. 40's lady took me straight up w no choice of girls. And wow it's def not nice facilities at all. Feels dirty and cheap. Managed to give a credible BJ and I shot in her mouth after a few minutes. But def no comparison to 7-Heaven.
Def an off night for me but at least got a shot off!
Piece of advice: 1300 at 7 Heaven is def worth it vs 800 at Kasalong. No comparison in girls and facilities. Like not even same universe.
Fortunately Im flying a legit 9.5 model (who i was with via Seeking Arrangements in Madrid) to Majorca for three days starting tomorrow. Not even a sex fail and Kasalong can dampen my boner!
Expat American
08-01-23, 10:49
So my amazing wife decided to surprise me on my Birthday with a weekend trip to Bangkok. Most of the time was of course spent with her but as a special birthday present she bought me a 4 hands 2 hour special massage (after I told her about Cherry). I had never been to the old Snow White but the set up is very similar to the old Devils Den. You are not going to find any 10's there but at 4 pm I got a selection of a dozen girls, some young, some older, some chubby, some skinny. Mama san told me which ones offer A+ (anal) and recommended a 25 year old. I also chose another 20 year old chubby girl (sometimes they try a lot harder). All in all a fully satisfying 2 hour romp. Non stop action, Anal, Rimming, Deep Throat and whatever else I wanted. Like directing my own porn shoot. Well worth the 4600 B plus 500 Beach tip I gave them.
Wife had read about the Pimp Club and wanted to check it out. I'm sorry but I don't see the point. Theres a minimum spend of 5000 B so we had to get a bottle. Cost to have a girl just sit with you for an hour was 2 K-3 K. Most of the girls had fake boobs and by no means were they all 8's or 9's either. I didn't bother with taking a girl or a private room so don't know what happens there. There was live music and we got drunk on our bottle so it was okay, but we could have gone to any bar in Bangkok for a good music without spending that much.
Finally last night wife and I checked out Soi Cowboy. Went into Suzie Wong, Afterschool and Sharks. Mixed bag of girls. Out of a dozen on stage maybe a couple were worth a drink. I bought drinks for a cute 22 year old in Suzie Wong and she was fun and interactive. Also bought some drinks at Sharks. Whats the deal with Crazy House at the end of the road? Asshole bouncers at the door saying "members only or 500 B entrance". Rude as fuck too. I've been in there before and it was a wild scene but I'm not paying 500 B just to look inside either.
If I go back ID stick to the massage joints around Soi 24/26 as it was by far the best experience and value for money.
Re Steve9696's Report:
Thanks for the reports.
Unless I misread it, your "first two pulls" were the same girl from Butterflies and in all three cases you paid the girl's 3,000 baht quoted fee upfront in the bar, right?
Of course, Your Mileage May Vary as usual. But in my experience your getting a happy experience with the first Butterflies girl after paying her fee upfront in the bar was the rare exception result, a truely rare gem of a girl, while the result you got with the second Butterflies girl, your third pull that turned out to be a disaster, would be the norm in a pay upfront arrangement.
Additionally, I'm guessing you did not specify anything upfront before paying the money in the bar regarding DFK, BBBJ, BBFSCIP or whatever it was that made that first girl experience so happy but that the second girl felt she had no reason to provide anything. Which, unless you did get a specific upfront agreement for those things from that second girl, she is pretty much within her rights to refuse doing them and keep the 3,000 baht you paid upfront.
So, if that is how it was with no upfront agreement from her to do anything that you expected to happen for the money in order for you to be happy about it, "going with the flow and seeing what happens in the room" so to speak, then marching back to the bar to complain might have been interesting for all involved and might possibly have made the mamasan unhappy. But, imo, it would not have been an inspiration for the mamasan or the girl to give your money back or to do anything different for the next guy who comes along.
For me, unless I ask for it upfront before I pay the money and get a clear and unambiguous Yes reply to it, it is highly unlikely it will happen in the room. No matter what it is. And paying the girl's fee upfront instead of after the sex session at any point whether it is paid upfront in the bar or paid upfront 5 seconds before gets into bed is the best way to ensure an unhappy experience for me.Oops. I see you stated the Butteflies girls' quoted fees were 4,000 baht, not 3,000 baht and the one at Bunny's was 3,000 baht. Yeah, for that plus the barfine I would have needed to cite and get an upfront agreement for every major detail I wanted to happen in the session in order to be happy about it. And I would have walked away from any Pay Upfront deal other than for the barfine.
But that is just me.
Who knows, maybe every Pay Upfront and Go With The Flow And See What Happens In The Room arrangement you agree to from now on with a Thai gogo girl will turn out terrific and that one unhappy experience with the Butterflies girl will turn out to be the rare exception. Anything is possible I suppose.
However, if I followed that approach every time with Thai gogo girls all indications are the ratio of fails to happy experiences would be ridiculously lopsided toward fails. Guaranteed.
So, have read all of Steve 9696's reports and found them very valuable indeed given my upcoming trip. His reports in other forums (London / Spain / Germany) are also very good. Following on from his experiences of Nana bars (recommends Billboard and Butterflies) I enjoyed the report from Expat American, mainly due to his experience at Pimp.
I tried Pimp last year and found it a cold experience, but I wondered if I didn't stay long enough? I felt I was being ripped off so left early. Despite this, I really like the idea of an excellent high end gentlemans bar where you can enjoy a whole night of on stage performances, VIP room pool, KTV with a few girls, fun etc. Yep - "expensive" by Thai standards, but not by European standards. Paying circa 12-15,000 baht equates to about 400 euros. Truth is that most guys who visit FKK clubs in Germany, or one of the top clubs in Spain (Vive Madrid, Scandalos Malaga, E92 Fuengirola) will very easily spend 400 euros in a night for an hour or so with one girl, entry, drinks etc. Ok it is very tempting, when its possible to go to a BJ bar in BKK or Pattaya and be well serviced for a tenth of that price to think its crazy to spend this sort of cash. But for a tourist to come to BKK and enjoy a night in a top club / top venue like Maria's, Black Caviar, Sherbet Club, M club, Elite (13 Thonglor) as a one off is not a bad deal. But only of course if the quality of the girls is top rate and the entertainment the same.
So here is a question for experienced BKK forum members, but including the recent tourists: assume you have 4 nights in BKK. How do you spend them? Easy to say 1 night Nana, 1 night Soi Cowboy, 1 night 7 Heaven, etc. But what of other options? Nobody reports on Soi Thaniya yet a see a YouTube video from Jonny recently visiting Sena Club there where some of the girls look really attractive. The recent videos of Thaniya look like there are a lot of good options. Would that be one of your four nights? Thermae? What about one of high end soapies. La Belle? Or even the quirky Stocking Massage Spa? My trips to BKK inevitably result in nights barfining from agogos. I would really like to look at other options this time, but am strictly limited to four nights. Budget is happily not a consideration. Don't like escorts so Thai Friendly etc totally out. That's possible the world over. And I hate bait and switch. I like to select from a (real not ipad) line up so I can see exactly what I'm buying (renting! So, how would you guys choose to spend 4 nights only if budget wasn't an option? Steve 9696 might STILL say he'the spend at least one of them at Butterflies? But I think the answers would illuminating. And of course helpful.
So here is a question for experienced BKK forum members, but including the recent tourists: assume you have 4 nights in BKK. How do you spend them? Easy to say 1 night Nana, 1 night Soi Cowboy, 1 night 7 Heaven, etc.My last trip was end of June and beginning of July. What I did is visit a massage parlor during the day and then hit the GoGos at night. There was a noticeable step down in the amount of girls for low season compared to my trip back in April so I would stick to the bigger places if I were you. I still think most of the top girls at at the GoGos, Thermae is alright on a Friday and Saturday but it felt relatively sparse otherwise. No matter the night though, Billboard always felt it had the most customers and girls.
So my recommendation is do the massages during the day and Nana at night. If it's early Friday / Saturday then can try Thermae for ST and hit the GoGos after.
Houston Player
08-02-23, 01:02
Thanks for the reports.
Unless I misread it, your "first two pulls" were the same girl from Butterflies and in all three cases you paid the girl's 3,000 baht quoted fee upfront in the bar, right?He paid 4,000 baht upfront in the bar. Another poster has followed up with some girls in Billboard quote 4,000 baht. I have never been quoted above 3,000 baht for short time by any girl in Billboard or Butterflies. I may have been quoted more by a mamasan before I learned to never talk to a mamasan unless I needed her for something and I don't need her to pay a barfine. I simply tell the girl what we're going to do in the room and give her the money to pay the bar, she can deal with the mamasan if she needs to. I always pay the girl after the service.
In bars that I frequent a lot the mamasans are my friends after getting to know each other and we help each other. They bring me new girls that they know I will like and I tip them.
In bars that I'm less known if the girl wants to bring the mamasan over I simply hand the mamasan the money for the bar fine and tell her that I will take care of the girl in the room. Sometimes that mamasan will ask the girl if she's okay to be paid by me in the room. They almost always say yes, but if they do say no, I take my money back and walk.
Steve 9696
08-02-23, 04:17
Not useful to me till next trip but def some good info for the other guys in here. Worldwide I always try to pay after but it never occurred to me as possible in this setting. I let the mamasan lead the game but next time I will know better and separate the bar fine from the girl pay after. Good advice!
As far as luck in the pull, we both pulled girls the first night we adored. And did pull them second night again. Third night my friend made another great pull. And my Bunny pull on night one was a homer also. So I guess we were lucky (4/5) . I am usually quite good at gauging girls but def was off with that one pull. It wasn't even so much the CBJ. She was just not happy to be there (in the room) and I can't fuck an unhappy girl. Just doesn't work for me. Attitude is everything.
I am not trying to have BBFS, which I cant imagine just going w the flow and getting. Although when I proved a beast to get off, after 40 mins my Bunny girl mounted up bareback to get me off. In the end she didnt succeed despite all sorts of tricks and really everything. She was soooo sad that she couldnt get me off. And now that I think about it she was pay after. Cuz when I went to pay 3000 baht she really didnt want to take full payment since I didnt cum. So not all these girls are sharks. (And my Butterflies girl is just a regular college girl I love that!)
Reminder. My strong take is Butterflies girls are younger and more genuine than billboard (obv limited sample but my friend Chris agrees). Our plan next time will be to replicate the party at billboard and pull at butterflies that we did two nights.
Steve 9696
08-02-23, 04:47
Other venues we tried were Poseidon and a oil massage. We had been to Poseidon before. It is a nice high end experience without being crazy pricey like Maria. Girls range from 3200-6500 or so. It's a little out of the way up north but worth a trip. Payforit since I know how you roll, I think you would like it.
Apparently the fishbowl died with COVID but the third floor models floor is going strong. Chris and I had a Gin and Tonic and checked out the lineup. There was a bit of pick one pressure but not offputting and we said we wanted to relax w our drinks. They had the 3-4 K girls on the right and the 5-6 K girls on the left. To be clear if you are about optics not so much the experience then it's going to seem high. The 5-6 K girls are like Butterflies quality and the 3-4 K girls def not quite up to that tier. But really it's not just about fucking in your room — there is the soapy experience here.
Chris grabbed a Q girl 5200 I think and mine was a SR I believe and 6 K. She kept giving me the doe eyes and I caved. Great in room experience. Lovely bath play (no mat play — all in a shallow tub) and of course fucking on the bed. I was spent after one round but apparently two is possible as Chris's girl mounted up for round two! All in all a really nice time.
Last night in town was BOO a legal holiday and all the clubs closed. And no alcohol sold. Double boo. We found a Korean BBQ in Korea town that would sell beer in cups up on the second level. Great time and great find. And then went to nearby massage for happy ending for me and FS for Chris. Def middle aged ladies but nice service. No complaints.
Only venue we didn't try was freelancer clubs like Mixx etc. So maybe next time.
Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.What's the going rate? The going rate for anything is what I'm willing to pay. Don't know of any going rates posted anywhere.
He paid 4,000 baht upfront in the bar. Another poster has followed up with some girls in Billboard quote 4,000 baht. I have never been quoted above 3,000 baht for short time by any girl in Billboard or Butterflies. I may have been quoted more by a mamasan before I learned to never talk to a mamasan unless I needed her for something and I don't need her to pay a barfine. I simply tell the girl what we're going to do in the room and give her the money to pay the bar, she can deal with the mamasan if she needs to. I always pay the girl after the service.
In bars that I frequent a lot the mamasans are my friends after getting to know each other and we help each other. They bring me new girls that they know I will like and I tip them.
In bars that I'm less known if the girl wants to bring the mamasan over I simply hand the mamasan the money for the bar fine and tell her that I will take care of the girl in the room. Sometimes that mamasan will ask the girl if she's okay to be paid by me in the room. They almost always say yes, but if they do say no, I take my money back and walk.I give the bar fine to who's ever responsible for it, most of the time my waitress. I've been quoted stupid money in every go-go in Thailand from girls. I pay what I think is fair or what it's worth to me. I don't get fooled with two lady drinks either because I'm the rare occasion that I order one, and make sure that the waitress is clear in her mind that it is one lady drink.
Guys. I won't hit the pubs tonight as there is an alcohol ban. Are there any nice dinner buffets in star hotels in sukhmvit that in can go and enjoy? Thinking of going late night.
Like most situations there is the right think to do and the easy thing to do. The right thing is of course to walk ten minutes back to the club and have an argument. The easy thing to do is send her home and go get a BJ a block away.
So yeah. I know the right thing. But I chose the easy thing. And was happy lightening my balls down the street and hitting the sack.The problems and the costs are exactly why most of us residents avoid GoGos at all costs. There are exceptions, but the majority will frequent certain oily parlors and a lot of us are quite heavily into the online scene. I totally understand why tourists don't want to spend the time working fiwfans. It takes a lot of time and a lot of research, speaking Thai is a big help, but yesterday I had a gal in a hotel less than 10 minutes from my house for 1500 baht, one shot l, one hour, and I'll tell you she looks every bit as good if not better than any of the girls you would see at Billboard or Butterflies. And tomorrow I'm looking at an auto show quality pretty for 2,500 for an hour. And this is white skin, amazing figure, no baby, and will absolutely blow the doors off anything in Nana plaza.
But hey, I totally get wanting to go to a gogo bar and have a good time, It's such a shadow of its former self, as is thermae, that me and my mates pretty much shun it. And don't get me wrong, we like to go to bars, but we like to go to bars where we can talk have a nice craft beer, or a nice whiskey, and some decent food. And if you add a fiwfans girl on to that still probably spending less than 2,500 Baht for the whole evening. It's a whole different and much better ball game when you live here.
Steve 9696
08-02-23, 12:56
The problems and the costs are exactly why most of us residents avoid GoGos at all costs. There are exceptions, but the majority will frequent certain oily parlors and a lot of us are quite heavily into the online scene. I totally understand why tourists don't want to spend the time working fiwfans. It takes a lot of time and a lot of research, speaking Thai is a big help, but yesterday I had a gal in a hotel less than 10 minutes from my house for 1500 baht, one shot l, one hour, and I'll tell you she looks every bit as good if not better than any of the girls you would see at Billboard or Butterflies. And tomorrow I'm looking at an auto show quality pretty for 2,500 for an hour. And this is white skin, amazing figure, no baby, and will absolutely blow the doors off anything in Nana plaza.
But hey, I totally get wanting to go to a gogo bar and have a good time, It's such a shadow of its former self, as is thermae, that me and my mates pretty much shun it. And don't get me wrong, we like to go to bars, but we like to go to bars where we can talk have a nice craft beer, or a nice whiskey, and some decent food. And if you add a fiwfans girl on to that still probably spending less than 2,500 Baht for the whole evening. It's a whole different and much better ball game when you live here.No I think you are on point here. What you are doing is very efficient and the gogos are highly inefficient for getting pussy. I just enjoy the experience. It used to be I longed after the dating type experience and so Seeking Arrangement was my fave method. But now that I've had a home GF for going on two years I long for the "club experience" and what I call the girl buffet. No question I can go to an oily and get something quick. And that has its place too. It's wonderful to have a BJ bar like 7-heaven. That's another great format. I just love checking out the girls and the camel toe and spike heels and knowing I can have any one I want! That’s why I love Thai and Russian gogos and the Boates of São Paulo. The wonderful thing is there are like a ton of formats for us to choose. And we get to pick! Heavenly.
Chan Chalupa
08-02-23, 13:19
The problems and the costs are exactly why most of us residents avoid GoGos at all costs. There are exceptions, but the majority will frequent certain oily parlors and a lot of us are quite heavily into the online scene. I totally understand why tourists don't want to spend the time working fiwfans. It takes a lot of time and a lot of research, speaking Thai is a big help, but yesterday I had a gal in a hotel less than 10 minutes from my house for 1500 baht, one shot l, one hour, and I'll tell you she looks every bit as good if not better than any of the girls you would see at Billboard or Butterflies. And tomorrow I'm looking at an auto show quality pretty for 2,500 for an hour. And this is white skin, amazing figure, no baby, and will absolutely blow the doors off anything in Nana plaza.
But hey, I totally get wanting to go to a gogo bar and have a good time, It's such a shadow of its former self, as is thermae, that me and my mates pretty much shun it. And don't get me wrong, we like to go to bars, but we like to go to bars where we can talk have a nice craft beer, or a nice whiskey, and some decent food. And if you add a fiwfans girl on to that still probably spending less than 2,500 Baht for the whole evening. It's a whole different and much better ball game when you live here.Actually 2,500 for a car model does seem fair. Remember if she is a 5,000 girl at LAbelle or somewhere equivalent. Guess how much is her cut.
Voila. 2,500.
Steve 9696
08-02-23, 15:41
Here's full day one report out. Best day I suppose tho we had several good days.
Chris and I landed in the afternoon and planned to hit it hard. Chris is kinda a single shot, single venue kinda guy, but I was able to convince him to live on the edge! .
We figured let's go BJ bar for a day gig to release the tension. Then hit the gogos at night. The vibe I got from the forum is that Nana is better than Cowboy (and I now agree) so we planned that for the night venue. But since Chris's hotel was near Cowboy we figured we'the just get the lay of the land and wandered down Soi cowboy even tho most things were closed.
Happened upon a great Irish pub as you exit Cowboy at the far end — to the left and across the street. Large place called Gritty McDuffs or some such. Zillion Brit's and Aussies watching rugby. Played some pool upstairs and enjoyed a couple pints and some nachos and satay that was quite tasty. Recommend.
After that, decided to start slow with a veggie massage as we waited for things to open. Found a place that looked legit and had good reviews. 300 baht ($10) for an hour Thai massage. Love that! Very solid job by both ladies. We repeated the following day. Now, bodies all relaxed, we went to get our dicks relaxed.
We decided to check out Haven first because one of the board members liked it. But yikes. I guess we roll differently. Some 4-5's out front and dark and dingy inside with a random toddler roaming about. No thanks.
Went to 7-Heaven, not too far a walk away, where again a board member recommended (thanks guys!) where it's tablet format. They show you available girls on the iPad and they are pretty close to pics it turns out. Pricing is 1300 for BBBJ w / CIM standard and they have a few options — pretty sure Google maps pics shows price list but it's in Chinese! Funniest is there is small upcharge for COB and COF but CIM is free. Wtf? There is a note on the price list that says 40 minute time limit and one shot. Ok no problem.
I picked a real cutie who seemed in her twenties and was maybe just a bit thick but not problematically so. Beautiful face and lips and what great attentive service. Makes you feel like a king. The rooms are nice and clean and there is a mat bed on the floor. Doesn't seem at all dirty or dicey like say Kasalong. Nice place and worth the 500 baht premium over Lolita's or Kasalong for both facilities and girls, no contest.
Attentive dick wash in the sink and then the BJ was on. On my back for most of it and nice technique. She had nice firm tits I could access from time to time. When it took a long time to finish, we moved to me standing and her on her knees looking up submissively. Hands in her hair and a bit of direction (I like it slow) plenty of BLS and that did the trick. Rewarded her with some nice shots her mouth. Ahhhh, one down.
Kicked around a bit and eventually ended up at Nana plaza — only 5 min walk from my hotel. Sat at the big center bar and had a Jack and coke and a beer just shooting the shit and marveling at how great it is to be back. We got there at 7:59 and the barmaid was nice enough to give us the happy hour prices that expired at 8. There was a girl at the table across the aisle, outside Bunny, making strong eye contact as me and Chris drank. She was hot and had on cat ears (love that!) so we filed her for future reference.
Can't really remember where but I think we poked our heads in a few spots before deciding to hit the well recommended Billboard on the third level. Wow. It was hopping. The waitress seated us "pool side" if you will. There is a big Jacuzzi tub with foam in it and maybe ten girls doing the Bangkok shuffle on the platform adjacent to it and in the suds in the tub itself. Pretty good mix of fake tits and naturals and all pretty girls.
We spent quite some time marveling at this and just enjoying the vibe and drinking more. I will def say Billboard is very fair — no extra drink charges and not continuously pushing girls and girl drinks on you. If it's your thing you can prob just have a drink or two and ogle hotties and go whack off. Damage would be however many 180 baht ($6) drinks you have. That's it. Of course we had other plans.
This reminds me and I know all you pros know this but for the newbies. All the clubs bring a little wooden cup with your bill in it when you order. You don't need to pay right away. Each time you order they will add to it. But make SURE to check your bill esp after first drink and if you get ladies drinks. The less reputable clubs will try to tack shit on. So beware. Had this happen at Red Dragon but not Billboard, Butterflies, Crazy House, or Bunny.
OK. Back to the action. We really enjoyed Billboard. After a drink or two we moved to the revolving stage. I fucking love this. It's a round stage with slots for 12-15 girls at the perimeter. It rotates so you get to see every girl and about every 20 minutes they change out the lineup.
Night one they were wearing white and the camel toe was on point! You are looking up at all these pussies going by, plus make some eye contact if you want to, or just focus eye level and watch black stripper fuck-me heels of all kinds flood past. It's just epic. I could do this for hours. And did! Hahaha.
We eventually decided to check out Butterflies, as it came well recommended also. Very obvious same format, menu, and prices, but no revolving stage. On later reflection, we noticed almost NO silicone in here and wondered if that is sorta the requirement of management. Younger and more natural than Billboard.
Chris had been telling me he's a one shot guy and shot it at 7-Heaven. But I knew better. It took a bit but suddenly this little 24 year old pixie (4-11,80 lbs?) caught his eye and he was slain. Called her down and it was clear in five minutes that it was on and I needed to find my hottie.
I decided to take a tour of the other stage and see what was on offer. All the girls were doing the Bangkok shuffle except one who was really bringing some energy and sex appeal. She was also a full womans build, not your typical Thai pixie and that appealed since I've been doing the pixies of late (including my Asian GF back home). So I called her down and we all four gathered by the stage.
Both girls the chemistry was great. Chris's girl was twerking on him and simulating doggie fucking in front of a pile of old Chinese and white dudes just a few feet away. And my girl backs into me, puts my hands on her tits (nice firm be-see cups) and was reaching behind her back and stroking my now hard dick. Ok girls. We get the message — you want to fuck. What a coincidence — Us too!
We settle up with the mamasan (see other posts which advise against this — just pay barfine and then pay girl directly after) and the girls go to change. Chris's pixie is dressed just like his old GF used to and he's a goner. Mine is also sexy AF and we are ready to rumble. We walk most of the way together but Chris grabs a cab for him and his girl since he's a bit farther.
In the room my girl and I shower separately and return in towels. We have a truly lovely BFGF time together. I learn she's a 21 year old college student and it shows. But I love that! We make out some and she's an OK kisser but not tops. But I can tell there is passion and that is all that matters.
Despite her club persona she's a shy girl and wants the lights down low but I convince her otherwise. I start with some nice tit sucking and damn she likes that. Def likes her tits sucked in hard and I am enjoying soft hand circles with her amazing tits.
After a bit of that I head down south but teasing along the way. Maybe lick down to her belly button but then back to tits. A little further next time. Licking and sucking that hollow between thigh and pussy and brushing over her clit when changing sides. She is squirming like a girl that's had nothing but college age losers fuck and forget and enjoying every minute.
Eventually I reward her with full soft mouth action and she is wet as a fucking fountain. Lots of good clit licking and sucking keeping a nice rhythm. I slip a finger inside (she's tight!) and start some gspot work while still working clit with tongue. Then slide two fingers in gently vertically and slowly rotate to horizontal and gspot tweaking and she is bucking while her pussy walls keep clamping. It is just one sloppy pussy clamping fiesta!
Honestly I love getting fresh girls off like that so it could be a highlight. But the rest is very good. Very nice BJ and BLS with a nice attentive nature.
At some point I want to move her around to 69 and this is where you can see she is so new to this. Most girls know the universal gesture and soft body leading that swings her to 69. But she is not sure what I want. She kinda pivots into a reverse Cowgirl sumata very awkwardly and realizes this can't be right. We both laugh hard and so we reposition her till she's in 69 and have a great time.
After that the fucking is epic. Damn. Can't remember it all. But we do the Steve forever (clear she hasn't done this before). Several times I lean in and we make out urgently like new lovers do. Finally with a foot on the bed for extra leverage I pound out an earthshaking shot in the condom. Ah. Shot two is always a labor of love but amazing when you get it.
After some nice cuddles, she can't stay because she has a field trip in the morning. (And of course I'the booked ST). Gentleman that I am, I say I will walk her back to Nana. Who does this! I do.
Back at Nana I see her off to Butterflies with a kiss. And as I turn to go home I think. Well, I don't have a third shot but a little camel toe never hurt anyone! And there is a camel toe parade going on right now two floors up! Plus I can do some research for the forum, dedicated poster that I am.
So off I go to billboard. Of course it's amazing and I enjoy a drink there. But I feel dedication to the forum and decide I should have a beer a couple other places and report out.
First up is Angelwitch. Def a heavy rock vibe and about ten girls on stage. There are a couple doable ones but I clearly see why Billboard is a fave.
Next up is Bunny where all my best intentions go to hell in a hand basket. The greeter seats me at the first table and before long I am getting the death stare from a very slim hottie in the closest position. Shortly I notice cat ears girl from earlier at the far end of the stage and get the serious doe eyes. Damn. She's hot and seductive. A dangerous combo!
Both girls come join me and I am in a nice Steve sandwich. I am not really in the market tho and particularly not for two. So when the Mamasan comes and asks if I will buy both a drink I think for a sec but then say "no thanks". You might think this is offputting but it's just the opposite. Instead both girls redouble their efforts!
The tiny pixie girl on my right starts massaging my shoulders and back and it's very nice. Not to be out done, cat girl starts massaging my dick! In full view of everyone. I'm not shy so I let her keep on and before long I have a full fledged boner. She's impressed and now with both hands she is pressing my shorts flat to show my full glory and showing her friend how long and thick my dick is. OMG! It's so naughty it's just great. King of the fucking world.
Ok. Fuck. How can I not take this minx! So with apologies to her friend, I bar fine cat girl and we are off (she says later her friend was really sad and wanted me to take her — oh well. I've only got one dick. Sorry.).
In the never a dull moment category, as I give the mamasan the bar fine, she points out that this is not Thai currency! It's from another Asian country. LOL. Not to be deterred, they assign the stocky barmaid to escort me to the ATM. It's one of those life experiences when she marches me past security and then goes into the busy street and stops traffic both ways so I can get to the ATM across the street. Thai service rules!
Having settled up, we head to the room where we have a great time. Not quite the same college girl newness passion as the first girl but really quality BJ and sex. I'm prob 8 or so drinks in so can't remember fuck all at this point except that it's perilously hard to finish me.
At some point maybe 40 minutes in I take off the condom to maybe finish by mouth. She does some great BJ but she is determined to finish me so she mounts up bareback! Wow! Super nice in cowgirl and the Steve but no dice. Not even bareback. We try every trick in the book including her BLS and me jacking. Or me jacking and her mouth open and tongue tapping a bit and maybe I slide it in for a few pumps. I mean all amazing stuff but no dice.
Just goes to show these girls are not all hardcore because when I finally pack it in she is so disappointed. I owe her 3000 baht for her part and she is saying she doesn't deserve it all because I didn't cum! Fuck she worked hard. Not her fault, so I gave her the full amount and sent her on her way (not walking back a second time! What a nice girl. Two for two.
And that is the end of day one. Yep. Just one day. Bangkok rules!
Banana Boi
08-02-23, 16:50
The problems and the costs are exactly why most of us residents avoid GoGos at all costs.That's the beauty about actually living in Thailand. Anyone living in Thailand never has to pay a barfine. You get the girls to come over on their days off, before or after work. Always skip the expensive middleman.
Bottom line really is how much does a person feel comfortable spending on girls and drinks each night. Some may feel 2500 baht is the limit for a nights fun other may say 20,000 baht. I'm currently living in Japan and pay around 3000 baht per 15 minutes for a young slim extremely pretty top end pale skinned car show girl. My budget is no different than Thailand I just see way fewer girls.
Dear fellas,
Going with my girlfriend to Bangkok this winter and looking for recommendations for some nice and experience as a couple.
My better half is quite open minded and up for everything (yes, quite happy about it) so my task is to plan a sexy trip.
Looking for 3-4 different versions what to try together: Getting or taking an escort to our hotel room (or 2, that was her idea), soaping massage, "normal" happy ending massage and so on. What else would you think of?
Besides of Nana, Cowboy, which places would you recommend?
As we are both beginning of 30 and attractive so we like young, model-type girls beginning of 20's. The price doesn't play a big role, I just want to get us unforgettable memories.
So places can be high-end (maybe Poseidon? It has to be without any time pressure (no BJ bar or ST booking haha) and more in nice environment (I saw places like Termae but I think that one would not be the best place for her in terms of spirit.
Usually we are more into (eastern-) European girls (I guess in BKK you need to hunt for that in normal clubs as usual) but Thai could also be sexy.
Looking forward for your answers.
This all depends on what you're doing. Are you getting girls every day or even multiple girls a day? Are you doing high end restaurants? Are you drinking a lot? Are you going to get conned into buying lady drinks at gogos? Are you trying to BF high end girls or low. Are you going to stay at a high end hotel?
You can go to an MP and pay 2000-2500 baht for 2 hours of time. You can get a streetwalker for ST or LT for a variety of prices. You can go to high end clubs or escorts and pay much much more.Thanks GrapeMan. Appreciate the feedback. Sounds like a few hundred USD a day will be plenty!
Met a hot freelancer at nana; 1 k St; claimed to be 27 but was probably 32 . Total GFE. Surprisingly spoke decent English. She works in quality control during the day and drives a bmw. Which was surprising. Anyways we did our thing; while leaving I gave her an extra 200 baht as tip: she as happy. She also offered to show me around Bangkok all day tomorrow but I have plans so told her I will take her for dinner at a nice place. She was real sweet but should I be perturbed by the fact that she was ok to show me around? She also mentioned her younger brother is a cop so if am in any trouble I can call her. What do you say guys? Considering her younger bro is a cop, am.
I at risk of being scammed? I did take her out for dinner after I banged her and she was very sweet. No red flags. Also told her am in Bangkok for one night only.
No I think you are on point here. What you are doing is very efficient and the gogos are highly inefficient for getting pussy. I just enjoy the experience. It used to be I longed after the dating type experience and so Seeking Arrangement was my fave method. But now that I've had a home GF for going on two years I long for the "club experience" and what I call the girl buffet. No question I can go to an oily and get something quick. And that has its place too. It's wonderful to have a BJ bar like 7-heaven. That's another great format. I just love checking out the girls and the camel toe and spike heels and knowing I can have any one I want! Thats why I love Thai and Russian gogos and the Boates of So Paulo. The wonderful thing is there are like a ton of formats for us to choose. And we get to pick! Heavenly.Oh, I think gogo bars are very efficient for finding hot to trot little minxes who might very well agree to or decide on their own to move to a BBFS+Cum-In-Pussy Real Sex Experience if she understands that's what it will take to make you a happy customer. Same as your Butterflies girl did for you.
By stark contrast, I only have personal experience of getting exactly nowhere after 3-4 hours' research for such an experience on Fiwfans. And, for the purported 1500 baht "going rate" on that site, I would even have been willing to accept a couple of rungs down from the best looking Nana Plaza gogo bargirls I have enjoyed that with on the first session. I suspect I would have to devote several months research and much trial and error waste of time and money to score a real looker on Fiwfans willing to do BBFS+CIP with me for any amount of money. Assuming I don't get blackballed and banned from the site for merely asking. LOL.
I have lived here for almost 12 years and it is much, much easier for me to get an upfront agreement for no hurry, no hassle DFK, BBBJ and a BBFS+CIP finish with an above average looking young Thai girl in a first session at a gogo bar than in any other venue or P4 P option I have tried.
That includes online, in-bar freelancers, street girls, massage shops and so-called PSE Happy Ending Shops.
I understand many lucky punters are fine with Covered FS. But all factors considered, in terms of time and money expenditure, if my definition of Real Sex above is the kind of "pussy" one wants in a first session with an above average or better looking young Thai girl, nothing is more efficient for getting it in Bkk than a night of barhopping and, yes, sometimes a bit of mamasan-assisted screening at the gogo bars, imo.
Where can I get my cock and inner thigh area shaved in Bangkok? Am in Sukhumvit area. Leads would be welcome.
Chan Chalupa
08-02-23, 21:47
That's the beauty about actually living in Thailand. Anyone living in Thailand never has to pay a barfine. You get the girls to come over on their days off, before or after work. Always skip the expensive middleman.
Bottom line really is how much does a person feel comfortable spending on girls and drinks each night. Some may feel 2500 baht is the limit for a nights fun other may say 20,000 baht. I'm currently living in Japan and pay around 3000 baht per 15 minutes for a young slim extremely pretty top end pale skinned car show girl. My budget is no different than Thailand I just see way fewer girls.Any Ayu Sakurai sightings?
That's the beauty about actually living in Thailand. Anyone living in Thailand never has to pay a barfine. You get the girls to come over on their days off, before or after work. Always skip the expensive middleman.
Bottom line really is how much does a person feel comfortable spending on girls and drinks each night. Some may feel 2500 baht is the limit for a nights fun other may say 20,000 baht. I'm currently living in Japan and pay around 3000 baht per 15 minutes for a young slim extremely pretty top end pale skinned car show girl. My budget is no different than Thailand I just see way fewer girls.Jealous actually. I'd love to be living in Japan. When I was in my mid thirties 20 odd years ago and moved to Thailand, it really ticked all the boxes. Now that I'm in my late 50's Japan has much more appeal. Four seasons, I can even ski in the winter, unbelievable food quality I almost say the best in the world, a wonderful transportation system, it's clean, and everything works. It's first world. Yes there are drawbacks, but I am considering getting an akiya and spending a few months there a year. Absolutely love the Kansai area. And of course some of the women are just stunning and the level of sophistication is better.
By stark contrast, I only have personal experience of getting exactly nowhere after 3-4 hours' research for such an experience on Fiwfans. And, for the purported 1500 baht "going rate" on that site, I would even have been willing to accept a couple of rungs down from the best looking Nana Plaza gogo bargirls I have enjoyed that with on the first session. I suspect I would have to devote several months research and much trial and error waste of time and money to score a real looker on Fiwfans willing to do BBFS+CIP with me for any amount of money. Assuming I don't get blackballed and banned from the site for merely asking. LOLI guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.
In contrast to you I find it significantly more convenient to be able to peruse on my phone, read reports, and then head out to a hotel pretty much anytime during the day and have a session. One doesn't have to wait for the bars to open, when can even partake at 10:00 am And they are scattered all over the city so if you happen to be in Thonburi, Bob's your Uncle. Additionally, I don't find the Nana area a particularly appealing place to go these days. Well I do wander down there for Middle Eastern food occasionally walking down the street at present is not a very appealing experience.
But it's not for you as you're going to find very few girls who are willing to take it "fresh" and yes the majority of local punters are very interested in maintaining their sexual health so bareback full sex for the most part is a No-No. I for one and more than happy with this, in fact I think it's a wonderful thing. BBBJCIM is quite possible and I would say the majority of the girls are up for that.
I have not found the Go-Go's appealing since the late '00's and that was a real stretch then. I did enjoy Cowboy quite a bit before the Arab bought Midnight which was in about 04 I think.
I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.
I do not live in Thailand but I have used FWIFANS / Sideline and gone to the GoGos quite a bit. So pro to Fwifans is like you said it's cheaper but their appearance in real life compared to the photos is a total crapshoot. It varies from being slightly worse looking than their photos to almost a completely different person. Some agencies are worse than others when it comes to this. Also waiting for Grab / Bolt is a little annoying sometimes to get out to some of these locations.
GoGos have the pro of seeing the girls in person and there is large selection to choose from immediately but then you have to pay the additional cost. I used to try out Fwifans in the daytime and then visit the GoGos at night.
Random guess but is the 2500 white skinned girl you saw named Vodka?
MakeItOrBreak
08-03-23, 03:21
I recently had a quite of wait for my flight coming from outside Bangkok to BKK, so I dumped my bag in storage for 150 THB at the airport. After checking options close by I decided on Lovely Spa in Minburi. I knew how traffic is midday and toward school closure I would have taken a motorbike taxi. Not sure however where to find one in BKK but maybe head to Novotel or something and order them to pick there.
Fairly small place and six ladies with primarily 6-7 looks but overall young. It will definitely help if you speak some Thai since there wasn't much English. Think cost was around 2800 THB but had to check beforehand if sex was on the table. Not sure if this is common? Either way service level was good even if massage is a bit piano so will consider going again. The driver back decided to not take the paid express and despite heavy traffic it went smoothly. But I would like to ask is there any other options worthwhile exploring around Suvarnabhumi? I will have a few more rounds at the airport this year.
I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.
In contrast to you I find it significantly more convenient to be able to peruse on my phone, read reports, and then head out to a hotel pretty much anytime during the day and have a session. One doesn't have to wait for the bars to open, when can even partake at 10:00 am And they are scattered all over the city so if you happen to be in Thonburi, Bob's your Uncle. Additionally, I don't find the Nana area a particularly appealing place to go these days. Well I do wander down there for Middle Eastern food occasionally walking down the street at present is not a very appealing experience.
But it's not for you as you're going to find very few girls who are willing to take it "fresh" and yes the majority of local punters are very interested in maintaining their sexual health so bareback full sex for the most part is a No-No. I for one and more than happy with this, in fact I think it's a wonderful thing. BBBJCIM is quite possible and I would say the majority of the girls are up for that.
I have not found the Go-Go's appealing since the late '00's and that was a real stretch then. I did enjoy Cowboy quite a bit before the Arab bought Midnight which was in about 04 I think.No, I am sure our eyes work very much the same. I can tell the difference between the level of beauty in the girls online, in bars and, frankly, everywhere on the planet free or paid who are likely to engage in no hassle BBFS+CIP and those who will not and need not.
There is nothing special about Billboard vs Fiwfans in that regard. The best lookers everywhere provide Real Sex by my definition a lot less often and much later in the game than the merely above average lookers. And the above average lookers provide it less often and later in the game than the desperate, seriously looks-challenged girls. My observation and experience is that dynamic exists everywhere, free or for money, same as it did in highschool for all of us.
It is my penis that might not work the same as yours and the other expats you know who are satisfied with Covered FS. LOL. Mine says NO loud and clear to any version of covered sex.
On the only other acceptable option for me, do you know if your Auto Show Pretty Fiwfans girl would provide a true BBBJ+CIM, no dodging and no Hand Job conversion at the finish, with some level of skill and reliable success in a first session? If not and assuming there is no way Real Sex / BBFS+CIP with her is on the table at any price, then whatever research time and money I would devote to scoring such a beauty would be a total waste for me. If I spent 2 hours with her for only 100 baht it would be a waste of 100 baht in my case. Unless she has some really charming stories and funny jokes to tell over dinner.
I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.
Would you mind sharing, here or privately, those telegram groups?
I recently had a quite of wait for my flight coming from outside Bangkok to BKK, so I dumped my bag in storage for 150 THB at the airport. After checking options close by I decided on Lovely Spa in Minburi. I knew how traffic is midday and toward school closure I would have taken a motorbike taxi. Not sure however where to find one in BKK but maybe head to Novotel or something and order them to pick there.
Fairly small place and six ladies with primarily 6-7 looks but overall young. It will definitely help if you speak some Thai since there wasn't much English. Think cost was around 2800 THB but had to check beforehand if sex was on the table. Not sure if this is common? Either way service level was good even if massage is a bit piano so will consider going again. The driver back decided to not take the paid express and despite heavy traffic it went smoothly. But I would like to ask is there any other options worthwhile exploring around Suvarnabhumi? I will have a few more rounds at the airport this year.Because traffic is so horrible, your best bet is to learn how to use the airport sky train (BTS). The simplest is to simply take the train from the airport to e.g. , Makkasan station (half an hour or so).
At Makkasan you're already very close to the lower Sukhumvit area where us tourists like to slum it. From there you can either take a motorbiketaxi to your final destination, or interchange to the mrt train and go to Sukhumvit station, which is just one station from Makkasan.
Actually 2,500 for a car model does seem fair. Remember if she is a 5,000 girl at LAbelle or somewhere equivalent. Guess how much is her cut.
Voila. 2,500.Voila what? The fiwfans girl cut of 2500 is not 2500.
Would you mind sharing, here or privately, those telegram groups?I believe he's talking about the telegram groups from fiwfans. Each agency has one.
GuyBrusg1957
08-03-23, 07:11
I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.Is there a reason why fiwfans caps out at 2500 baht? I wish the higher end soapies had their own tg or line. What telegram reviews sites are you using?
I believe he's talking about the telegram groups from fiwfans. Each agency has one.I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.
Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.
Is there a reason why fiwfans caps out at 2500 baht? I wish the higher end soapies had their own tg or line. What telegram reviews sites are you using?Actually it doesn't cap out at 2500. There are some that cost 20,000+ per hour. Why? I really have no idea, except the ones I looked at seem to all have in their info that they're ok about smoking and drinking.
GuyBrusg1957
08-03-23, 09:09
Actually it doesn't cap out at 2500. There are some that cost 20,000+ per hour. Why? I really have no idea, except the ones I looked at seem to all have in their info that they're ok about smoking and drinking.The majority are 2000 baht.
I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.
Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.Well, when it comes to only "good" reviews you have to learn how to read between the lines. If a gal doesn't get 310's, then there is definitely something lacking. When you see a nine you can really read a seven or maybe even a six. There is a reason for that, and that reason is the agents read these reviews and if you are continually posting bad reviews then you will definitely get blacklisted by some of these agents. A better way of handling a bad experience is to deal with it directly with the agent who you booked through.
Actually it doesn't cap out at 2500. There are some that cost 20,000+ per hour. Why? I really have no idea, except the ones I looked at seem to all have in their info that they're ok about smoking and drinking.I think there's like one girl that's 20 k, and maybe a couple who are over five, but the vast majority for a 90-minute two-shot session are somewhere between 1800 and 2500. The top looking girls, I. E models are pretty, can be 2,500 to 3500 for an hour, which is still way less than you are paying for an average looking go go girl. But again, weeding through the chaff takes a lot of time.
I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.
Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.Most of the agents list their telegram on the gal's pages. Fiwfans also has their own telegram page which includes quite a few reviews.
Honestly, learning how to navigate this is taking a lot of time and patience, and I don't mind sharing some knowledge with people, but honestly, I kind of expect some good information in return. Learning which agents are good, which ones keep performance standards for their girls, which ones are really farang friendly, and which ones aren't, is a long slow process.
I'm not sure. I only signed up for Telegram to use fiwfans, so I don't know how to use it well yet, but the one group I have joined (an agency group) does not seem to have much reviews. It has daily updates of who is working every day, and the occasional question, but I have not seen any reviews there I think.
Also, after using fiwfans for the last few weeks, I see there are many fake reviews on the website. Many true, but many fake also. What's a lot worse though is that it looks like they only publish good reviews. I've submitted a handful reviews, half good, half not so good. Only the good were published.After some time on the site you can spot the reviews that are not genuine, many times by looking at the reviewer's name clicking on them and seeing if they only review one agent's girls.
And when you talk about talent, please see the below Link in the first set of photos in the first review. I'm sorry but there's nothing in Nana plaza that approaches this.
https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae4tal4p1n2pc
Chan Chalupa
08-03-23, 12:43
Voila what? The fiwfans girl cut of 2500 is not 2500.I have no idea about social media. If these girls are as Hot as Goatscrit implies then the girls need a new Business Model. I thought they were independence contractors. Hahaha.
MachchiBaba
08-03-23, 14:00
Are you Indian?
About this great professional job she has. Did you Verify? Odd she can just take off when she wants. Hahaha.I am not sure why is that level of specificity relevant here (The reason I had mentioned about my appearance was to set a context that I don't appear as a rich white foreigner to a Thai women rather an average brown skinned guy.
MohdirFan82
08-03-23, 16:10
Thai general society consider white is symbol of wealth, good luck and status.
Even you are rich with brown skin, the girl might accept you, but society still doesn't see her as accomplished.
An Indian friend of mine married Thai girl, she is happy with him, but her family doesn't really accept him as her sister who married to Czech guy.
The goal is to look white, having white kids.
Thai people also Believe word of mouth that Brown skin people are stingy, and she will not be able to take care of her sick Buffalo and entire family.
Ideal candidate is mid 50's rich white men, who will take care of her with regular remittances, maybe open a business for her sister and brother. And built a home and she will be well taken care of, historically brown men are not known for doing that so that's why they trend to avoid.
Back in US a friend of mine married Thai girl (white guy), few years later she open massage shop and does provide home visits. He is very chilled, laid back and let her make money peacefully vs brown men will sure have problem with this.
In Thailand, my goal is quality P4 P and enjoy great food and beer.
I am not sure why is that level of specificity relevant here (The reason I had mentioned about my appearance was to set a context that I don't appear as a rich white foreigner to a Thai women rather an average brown skinned guy.
I have no idea about social media. If these girls are as Hot as Goatscrit implies then the girls need a new Business Model. I thought they were independence contractors. Hahaha.I think they're pretty much spot on for the local market. Soapies have turned into clip joints for East Asian tourists, and the prices in Go-Go's are absolutely outrageous considering the quality. Oilies are kind of comparable but overall I would say have less attractive women than what's available online.
The local punters want affordable and discreet as it's no longer acceptable to be seen going to a big soapy parlor with your workmates or friends like it was in the early '00s and before.
I am not sure why is that level of specificity relevant here (The reason I had mentioned about my appearance was to set a context that I don't appear as a rich white foreigner to a Thai women rather an average brown skinned guy.Me neither. Your post was well written and honest.
But let me also be honest: a girl that suggest you use transferwise to pay her is no newbie to this business.
I have no idea about social media. If these girls are as Hot as Goatscrit implies then the girls need a new Business Model. I thought they were independence contractors. Hahaha.Do you always post so authoritatively about things you have no idea about?
Well, when it comes to only "good" reviews you have to learn how to read between the lines. If a gal doesn't get 310's, then there is definitely something lacking. When you see a nine you can really read a seven or maybe even a six. There is a reason for that, and that reason is the agents read these reviews and if you are continually posting bad reviews then you will definitely get blacklisted by some of these agents. A better way of handling a bad experience is to deal with it directly with the agent who you booked through.
What will the agent do? I think I do a decent job of setting a good mood from the start (turning on the limited charm I have), so I have not really had any problems with service.
The problem has only been that some of the girls are too photoshopped in their pictures. Most of the girls I've seen have been from the same agent (I guess, assuming if it's the same hotel, it's also the same agent, though I could be wrong). Some have been head-turning pretty or cute, while others have been 2-3 years older, 5 kg heavier, and considerably less pretty than their photos.
I also think I've found the reason for some complaints I've seen here about the girl not being the girl from the photo, after it happened to me once or twice. In both those cases I went back and saw there is some text on the girls page about the photos being replicas (or something like that according to google's hopeless thai translations), and not the real photos.
MachchiBaba
08-03-23, 20:05
Thai general society consider white is symbol of wealth, good luck and status.
Even you are rich with brown skin, the girl might accept you, but society still doesn't see her as accomplished.
An Indian friend of mine married Thai girl, she is happy with him, but her family doesn't really accept him as her sister who married to Czech guy.
The goal is to look white, having white kids.
Thai people also Believe word of mouth that Brown skin people are stingy, and she will not be able to take care of her sick Buffalo and entire family.
Ideal candidate is mid 50's rich white men, who will take care of her with regular remittances, maybe open a business for her sister and brother. And built a home and she will be well taken care of, historically brown men are not known for doing that so that's why they trend to avoid.
Back in US a friend of mine married Thai girl (white guy), few years later she open massage shop and does provide home visits. He is very chilled, laid back and let her make money peacefully vs brown men will sure have problem with this.
In Thailand, my goal is quality P4 P and enjoy great food and beer.I agree with all your observations, pretty succinct I must say. If I were to put myself into the shoes of that hypothetical brown guy, I think I would come out to be stingy also. I won't see the point of going that further into it. I also think if I was truly looking for a relationship I would not hesitate to go beyond the attributes of the hypothetical white guy here. In my case, ever since I met her I have made it abundantly clear that I am not here for a relationship but I like the prolonged GF experience.
MachchiBaba
08-03-23, 20:18
Me neither. Your post was well written and honest.
But let me also be honest: a girl that suggest you use transferwise to pay her is no newbie to this business.You are right about the knowledge on Wise, generally. Apparently, she works in finance remittance and ForEx dealings. I know her pretty well after all the time together. Her Bank where she works was on the other side of the Hotel I stayed. She would stay with me at the Hotel for the entire time I was there, she would walk over to the other side to work and she would come back during lunch time sometime and back after work. All that said, she absolutely may have a past.
MachchiBaba
08-03-23, 21:04
For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.
After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?
What will the agent do? I think I do a decent job of setting a good mood from the start (turning on the limited charm I have), so I have not really had any problems with service.
The problem has only been that some of the girls are too photoshopped in their pictures. Most of the girls I've seen have been from the same agent (I guess, assuming if it's the same hotel, it's also the same agent, though I could be wrong). Some have been head-turning pretty or cute, while others have been 2-3 years older, 5 kg heavier, and considerably less pretty than their photos.
I also think I've found the reason for some complaints I've seen here about the girl not being the girl from the photo, after it happened to me once or twice. In both those cases I went back and saw there is some text on the girls page about the photos being replicas (or something like that according to google's hopeless thai translations), and not the real photos.Yes, there is usually a drop in the "cover" as the locals say. Of course part is to enhance the looks and part is to obscure the identity. On some of the agent telegram groups there are more accurate photos posted of faces.
I've had a few experiences where it was very obvious right when I walked in the room are very early in the session that the girl was not into it (perhaps really not being okay with foreigners) and it was not going to be good. I immediately contact the agent and depending on how far it went agreed to a small fee or nothing, and in the agent usually suggests another girl in the same hotel. I've never had an agent get agitated, rather always trying to work something out. Friend had a girl I just didn't want to do the second shot and the agent ended up refunding some money.
Chan Chalupa
08-04-23, 03:25
Me neither. Your post was well written and honest.
But let me also be honest: a girl that suggest you use transferwise to pay her is no newbie to this business.Common knowledge certain people from certain parts of the world have to go that extra step to impress Bargirls.
Whereas a good Asian may be required to buy one drink. Bad Asians may be required to buy 5. It's real folks.
My friend Raj always has to be Surcharged when going out with his Good Asian Buddies. He is fine with it, he is embarrassed when he sees a fellow kinship buy one drink with 5 straws.
I think they're pretty much spot on for the local market. Soapies have turned into clip joints for East Asian tourists, and the prices in Go-Go's are absolutely outrageous considering the quality. Oilies are kind of comparable but overall I would say have less attractive women than what's available online.
The local punters want affordable and discreet as it's no longer acceptable to be seen going to a big soapy parlor with your workmates or friends like it was in the early '00s and before.I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.
The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.
Do you always post so authoritatively about things you have no idea about?What did he say that was wrong, The girls aren't independent, and they as a whole aren't superstars. I like Fiw when I'm lazy, even though the bulk of the babes are a schlep away. Nothanburi is close to me and their cheaper up there. But let's not pretend their supermodels and I'm sure not going out to Min buri or out to Laksi.
To find out.
MakeItOrBreak
08-04-23, 12:43
Do you happen to know if Sideline is managed by agents as well? Anyone using it? I tried to arrange something over LINE there but with my limited writing Thai and to be fair not contacting that many I failed. I got the impression some are independent in how they answered but not sure.
When I am back I will try again and update with my hopefully success haha.
Yes, there is usually a drop in the "cover" as the locals say. Of course part is to enhance the looks and part is to obscure the identity. On some of the agent telegram groups there are more accurate photos posted of faces.
I've had a few experiences where it was very obvious right when I walked in the room are very early in the session that the girl was not into it (perhaps really not being okay with foreigners) and it was not going to be good. I immediately contact the agent and depending on how far it went agreed to a small fee or nothing, and in the agent usually suggests another girl in the same hotel. I've never had an agent get agitated, rather always trying to work something out. Friend had a girl I just didn't want to do the second shot and the agent ended up refunding some money.
I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.
The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.
Chan Chalupa
08-04-23, 12:47
I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.
The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.Unreliable photos is a Drawback? In my world it's a Deal Killer. Carry on gentle Man's.
Do you happen to know if Sideline is managed by agents as well? Anyone using it? I tried to arrange something over LINE there but with my limited writing Thai and to be fair not contacting that many I failed. I got the impression some are independent in how they answered but not sure.
When I am back I will try again and update with my hopefully success haha.It seems like the same thing for the most part, most of the agencies who are on Fwifans also crosspost to Sidelines.
For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.
After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?Trying to bump up this question as I am also interested in this response from local experts and people familiar with the BKK mongering scene. I RTFF the first 20-25 pages and couldn't find any recent information so appreciate guidance.
I am interested in high-end pick up clubs, and credible escort agencies (I saw mention of Absolute Angels, Bangkok Golden. Any others?
What did he say that was wrong, The girls aren't independent, and they as a whole aren't superstars. I like Fiw when I'm lazy, even though the bulk of the babes are a schlep away. Nothanburi is close to me and their cheaper up there. But let's not pretend their supermodels and I'm sure not going out to Min buri or out to Laksi.
To find out.Compared to what you see in the GoGos and most of the oilies, they might as well be supermodels.
Unreliable photos is a Drawback? In my world it's a Deal Killer. Carry on gentle Man's.Gals don't want their identity known. Totally understandable to Photoshop. Usually the body is spot on though. Rest assured the majority looks better than what you see in Nana or Cowboy.
For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.
After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?This was an excellent post. Disappointed nobody answered as I think a lot of us would love the answer. If there is a similar bar to this where is it in BKK?
Trying to bump up this question as I am also interested in this response from local experts and people familiar with the BKK mongering scene. I RTFF the first 20-25 pages and couldn't find any recent information so appreciate guidance.
I am interested in high-end pick up clubs, and credible escort agencies (I saw mention of Absolute Angels, Bangkok Golden. Any others?We agree. I too would like the answer and to find out about high end pick up clubs. Pimp, Sherberts, M club, Play, all fit that bill but don't have recent reports on them.
Somewhere15
08-05-23, 01:22
For those of you who know the history prior to COVID. The Spasso's bar in the basement of Hotel Hyatt Erawan use to turn into an exclusive pickup joint at 10 pm every night. Live band, beautiful Thai, EE women, booze set that place up like no other. It was a bit expensive relatively, 5-Star rates applied but I guess it wasn't too bad at all. One could see beauties dressed elegantly step in through the door one after another while families would slowly leave, knowing the place will soon morph this evening classic Italian restaurant into a late night Adult Hookup House. This use to be my best hunting ground for two reasons - 1) I thought I did not miss much stepping out of the Hotel, all the better girls (so I think) walked over to the Daddies, no effort needed 2) The convenience was second to none, I could pick someone up and run up the elevator straight to the room in a minute flat.
After COVID, they closed down the late night "Adult Hookup House", I suppose it is now a full-time family restaurant. Do any of you old timers here know a similar 5 Star Hotel Bar that might have a night gig like Spasso's still. I heard The Bamboo Bar located in The Mandarin Oriental hotel might be similar but I have not heard anything for sure. Are there others anyone would like to share?For many years I have known that good old things disappear and nothing equivalent comes in their place.
About 10 years ago I was a big fan of the disco at the Novotel Siam (CM-2); that disappeared while nothing equivalent took its place.
A few weeks ago I walked by the Hyatt before midnight, Spasso restaurant was already closed.
I sat outside down wistfully on the railing and I remembered that somewhere around (2015-2018) you had from there a perfect when a woman / groups of women walked down the stairs to the garage. I remembered that I had good pick ups (or I was approached and could get a lift when she drove by past a few minutes later). An ideal place for smokers, but also as a non-smoker you could score well there. I have experienced that quite a few ladies visited Spassos that were not really in the business by default.
A lot is changed after Covid; nowadays I try to find my luck again in shopping malls.
It costs a lot more time but I'm usually over for 4 till 6 weeks so there's no reason if things don't move quickly.
I agree. Fiwfans is ideal for the local market; both in terms of price and discretion. As Goatscrot says it does require some effort to get the hang of using it, but it can indeed be worth that effort. The only drawback I have found is, like Werqweq says, the unreliability of the photos provided; Photoshpped, bait-and-switch, etc.
The other local market option is using the local Kapoo clubs. These are similarly priced for the locals and do not need as much online research. I live in the far suburbs on the outskirts of Bangkok where there are plenty of local options available, the majority of which are Farang friendly, with both the Kapoo clubs or Fiwfans.Aren't Kapoo clubs another option where, yes, you can hire young good looking girls but their typical "no sex" policy limits the sexual activity to Hand Jobs?
Yes, that sounds very similar to the only skin-on-skin contact one can reliably count on with those Fiwfans supermodels. Perhaps an unreliable BBBJ+CIM if you're a long shot bettor. From what I've read and heard from punters who partake in Kapoo clubs and Fiwfans anyway.
For those of us who are in this hobby primarily or almost exclusively for BBFS+CIP and are simply not willing to consider a HJ or masturbating onto a girl's stomach or boobs to be anything remotely like Real Sex, that limitation is too high a price to pay for bragging rights that you paid less and got naked with a better looking girl than the ones actually delivering Real Sex in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
Just sayin'.
MachchiBaba
08-05-23, 03:45
Common knowledge certain people from certain parts of the world have to go that extra step to impress Bargirls.
Whereas a good Asian may be required to buy one drink. Bad Asians may be required to buy 5. It's real folks.
My friend Raj always has to be Surcharged when going out with his Good Asian Buddies. He is fine with it, he is embarrassed when he sees a fellow kinship buy one drink with 5 straws.You certainly have the right perspective based on populous views in Thailand and there may be several behavioral or other reasons to cite to backup this generalized perceived mindset. We humans, we base our quick decisions based on generalization, usually, that would seem convenient for us obviously. Generalization in decision making may work some of the time but there may be an element of success / failure probability. Some people may feel victimized for no reason at all.
You are right about the knowledge on Wise, generally. Apparently, she works in finance remittance and ForEx dealings. I know her pretty well after all the time together. Her Bank where she works was on the other side of the Hotel I stayed. She would stay with me at the Hotel for the entire time I was there, she would walk over to the other side to work and she would come back during lunch time sometime and back after work. All that said, she absolutely may have a past.In that case I will withdraw my comment about her.
Chan Chalupa
08-05-23, 05:59
Met a hot freelancer at nana; 1 k St; claimed to be 27 but was probably 32 . Total GFE. Surprisingly spoke decent English. She works in quality control during the day and drives a bmw. Which was surprising. Anyways we did our thing; while leaving I gave her an extra 200 baht as tip: she as happy. She also offered to show me around Bangkok all day tomorrow but I have plans so told her I will take her for dinner at a nice place. She was real sweet but should I be perturbed by the fact that she was ok to show me around? She also mentioned her younger brother is a cop so if am in any trouble I can call her. What do you say guys? Considering her younger bro is a cop, am.
I at risk of being scammed? I did take her out for dinner after I banged her and she was very sweet. No red flags. Also told her am in Bangkok for one night only.Red Flag for me would be she Charges only 1,000 baht.
Aren't Kapoo clubs another option where, yes, you can hire young good looking girls but their typical "no sex" policy limits the sexual activity to Hand Jobs?
Yes, that sounds very similar to the only skin-on-skin contact one can reliably count on with those Fiwfans supermodels. Perhaps an unreliable BBBJ+CIM if you're a long shot bettor. From what I've read and heard from punters who partake in Kapoo clubs and Fiwfans anyway.
For those of us who are in this hobby primarily or almost exclusively for BBFS+CIP and are simply not willing to consider a HJ or masturbating onto a girl's stomach or boobs to be anything remotely like Real Sex, that limitation is too high a price to pay for bragging rights that you paid less and got naked with a better looking girl than the ones actually delivering Real Sex in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.
Just sayin'.Have no idea about Kapoo places but never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers. And if CIM is on the menu, it's clearly stated on the profile. I don't need BBFS to consider it "real sex. ".
SoberHans69
08-05-23, 12:42
Red Flag for me would be she Charges only 1,000 baht.Maybe there's a reason you only get high prices quoted off hot women, no offence.
CityHunter77
08-05-23, 13:16
Here's full day one report out. Best day I suppose tho we had several good days.
Went to 7-Heaven, not too far a walk away, where again a board member recommended (thanks guys!) where it's tablet format. They show you available girls on the iPad and they are pretty close to pics it turns out. Pricing is 1300 for BBBJ w / CIM standard and they have a few options pretty sure Google maps pics shows price list but it's in Chinese! Funniest is there is small upcharge for COB and COF but CIM is free. Wtf? There is a note on the price list that says 40 minute time limit and one shot. Ok no problem.
I picked a real cutie who seemed in her twenties and was maybe just a bit thick but not problematically so. Beautiful face and lips and what great attentive service. Makes you feel like a king. The rooms are nice and clean and there is a mat bed on the floor. Doesn't seem at all dirty or dicey like say Kasalong. Nice place and worth the 500 baht premium over Lolita's or Kasalong for both facilities and girls, no contest.
Attentive dick wash in the sink and then the BJ was on. On my back for most of it and nice technique. She had nice firm tits I could access from time to time. When it took a long time to finish, we moved to me standing and her on her knees looking up submissively. Hands in her hair and a bit of direction (I like it slow) plenty of BLS and that did the trick. Rewarded her with some nice shots her mouth. Ahhhh, one down.
We spent quite some time marveling at this and just enjoying the vibe and drinking more. I will def say Billboard is very fair no extra drink charges and not continuously pushing girls and girl drinks on you. If it's your thing you can prob just have a drink or two and ogle hotties and go whack off. Damage would be however many 180 baht ($6) drinks you have. That's it. Of course we had other plans.
This reminds me and I know all you pros know this but for the newbies. All the clubs bring a little wooden cup with your bill in it when you order. You don't need to pay right away. Each time you order they will add to it. But make SURE to check your bill esp after first drink and if you get ladies drinks. The less reputable clubs will try to tack shit on. So beware. Had this happen at Red Dragon but not Billboard, Butterflies, Crazy House, or Bunny.
OK. Back to the action. We really enjoyed Billboard. After a drink or two we moved to the revolving stage. I fucking love this. It's a round stage with slots for 12-15 girls at the perimeter. It rotates so you get to see every girl and about every 20 minutes they change out the lineup.
Night one they were wearing white and the camel toe was on point! You are looking up at all these pussies going by, plus make some eye contact if you want to, or just focus eye level and watch black stripper fuck-me heels of all kinds flood past. It's just epic. I could do this for hours. And did! Hahaha.
We eventually decided to check out Butterflies, as it came well recommended also. Very obvious same format, menu, and prices,
Both girls the chemistry was great. Chris's girl was twerking on him and simulating doggie fucking in front of a pile of old Chinese and white dudes just a few feet away. And my girl backs into me, puts my hands on her tits (nice firm be-see cups) and was reaching behind her back and stroking my now hard dick. Ok girls. We get the message you want to fuck. What a coincidence Us too!
We settle up with the mamasan (see other posts which advise against this just pay barfine and then pay girl directly after) and the girls go to change. Chris's pixie is dressed just like his old GF used to and he's a goner. Mine is also sexy AF and we are ready to rumble. We walk most of the way together but Chris grabs a cab for him and his girl since he's a bit farther.
Next up is Bunny where all my best intentions go to hell in a hand basket. The greeter seats me at the first table and before long I am getting the death stare from a very slim hottie in the closest position. Shortly I notice cat ears girl from earlier at the far end of the stage and get the serious doe eyes. Damn. She's hot and seductive. A dangerous combo!
Both girls come join me and I am in a nice Steve sandwich. I am not really in the market tho and particularly not for two. So when the Mamasan comes and asks if I will buy both a drink I think for a sec but then say "no thanks". You might think this is offputting but it's just the opposite. Instead both girls redouble their efforts!
The tiny pixie girl on my right starts massaging my shoulders and back and it's very nice. Not to be out done, cat girl starts massaging my dick! In full view of everyone. I'm not shy so I let her keep on and before long I have a full fledged boner. She's impressed and now with both hands she is pressing my shorts flat to show my full glory and showing her friend how long and thick my dick is. OMG! It's so naughty it's just great. King of the fucking world.
Ok. Fuck. How can I not take this minx! So with apologies to her friend, I bar fine cat girl and we are off (she says later her friend was really sad and wanted me to take her oh well. I've only got one dick. Sorry.).
In the never a dull moment category, as I give the mamasan the bar fine, she points out that this is not Thai currency! It's from another Asian country. LOL. Not to be deterred, they assign the stocky barmaid to escort me to the ATM. It's one of those life experiences when she marches me past security and then goes into the busy street and stops traffic both ways so I can get to the ATM across the street. Thai service rules!
Having settled up, we head to the room where we have a great time. Not quite the same college girl newness passion as the first girl but really quality BJ and sex. I'm prob 8 or so drinks in so can't remember fuck all at this point except that it's perilously hard to finish me.
At some point maybe 40 minutes in I take off the condom to maybe finish by mouth. She does some great BJ but she is determined to finish me so she mounts up bareback! Wow! Super nice in cowgirl and the Steve but no dice. Not even bareback. We try every trick in the book including her BLS and me jacking. Or me jacking and her mouth open and tongue tapping a bit and maybe I slide it in for a few pumps. I mean all amazing stuff but no dice.
Just goes to show these girls are not all hardcore because when I finally pack it in she is so disappointed. I owe her 3000 baht for her part and she is saying she doesn't deserve it all because I didn't cum! Fuck she worked hard. Not her fault, so I gave her the full amount and sent her on her way (not walking back a second time! What a nice girl. Two for two.
And that is the end of day one. Yep. Just one day. Bangkok rules!Thanks for the comprehensive report will give these bars / clubs a try later in the year.
Have no idea about Kapoo places but never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers. And if CIM is on the menu, it's clearly stated on the profile. I don't need BBFS to consider it "real sex. ".Really? Maybe that was just a mistype.
You never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers? And is that also enough for you to consider it to be "real sex"?
Actually, to be even more specific about it, I would not even consider BBFS rather than BBFS+CIP to be Real Sex if it means the customer complied with the girl's request that he pull out and finish on her stomach, butt or wherever. Or if he chose to pull out and finish that way on his own. More than likely it was masturbation. With convoluted or twisted exception, a sex act is ultimately defined by how it ends and not how it begins.
Yes, I have seen CIM listed on those Fiwfans profiles. Typically for an additional 300-500 baht surcharge.
My point about that was I suspect it is a long shot bet that any of those much better looking than Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or let's include Lolitas or Kasalong girls Fiwfans supermodels would actually provide a skilled CIM to the final drop without a last second cum dodge, head turn or bailout. Especially considering by then the cost of it with the supermodel's base rate and the CIM surcharge included it will likely be close to 2,000 baht.
Really? Maybe that was just a mistype.
You never had anything but BBBJ from fiwfans providers? And is that also enough for you to consider it to be "real sex"?
Actually, to be even more specific about it, I would not even consider BBFS rather than BBFS+CIP to be Real Sex if it means the customer complied with the girl's request that he pull out and finish on her stomach, butt or wherever. Or if he chose to pull out and finish that way on his own. More than likely it was masturbation. With convoluted or twisted exception, a sex act is ultimately defined by how it ends and not how it begins.
Yes, I have seen CIM listed on those Fiwfans profiles. Typically for an additional 300-500 baht surcharge.
My point about that was I suspect it is a long shot bet that any of those much better looking than Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or let's include Lolitas or Kasalong girls Fiwfans supermodels would actually provide a skilled CIM to the final drop without a last second cum dodge, head turn or bailout. Especially considering by then the cost of it with the supermodel's base rate and the CIM surcharge included it will likely be close to 2,000 baht.I have no need to skin it or to squirt in a gal to consider it "real sex. " It's simply not important to me at all, in fact I don't skin it because getting any type of STD with the risk of getting a prostate infection at my age is not worth it. I'm in my late 50's and can still pop twice in an hour. And I attribute a lot of this to the fact that I take care of myself. I drink minimally, don't smoke, I'm in the gym 5 days a week, eat a fairly clean diet, and walk several miles a day. So I'm doing everything I can to maintain health and sensitivity. I have friends in their late 60's and early seventies in this country you are still doing one to two gals a day and have no problems using condoms.
And there are a lot of fiwfans gals that have worked overseas including in saunas in Macau, where skill sets must be good, and in Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. I have by far some of my best Bangkok experiences in my 23-year tenure with fiwfans gals. Definitely the top 3 best looking gals I've ever had were fiwfans gals and one was pure PSE filth, minus the BBFS. Also, many of these girls that have worked overseas can actually carry on a conversation and have a little bit of an ability to be erotic and seductive, unlike basically all the GoGo gals I've been with.
The gals at Kas and Lolita's I don't find least bit attractive, I wouldn't let any of them near me to tell you the truth.
As I've gotten older I've become significantly more discriminating when it comes to looks. Flat stomach, no baby (that's the important one), lighter skin, and no hard Isaan look, preferring northern and central gals. And I like a gal who can seduce and perhaps really understands a bit of kink. I've found it all online.
I'll never forget one go go girl who I tried to get to engage in some dirty talk, and she looked at me shocked and said, "I'm a nice girl. " Don't think I've ever laughed so hard at the ability to compartmentalize and disconnect.
ThaiNewbie
08-05-23, 17:38
Hi all,
I am heading your way next week. Still pretty new to the game, is anyone willing to show me the ropes in exchange for a drink or two in nana? At Steve are you still around at the end of next week?
I have no need to skin it or to squirt in a gal to consider it "real sex. " It's simply not important to me at all, in fact I don't skin it because getting any type of STD with the risk of getting a prostate infection at my age is not worth it. I'm in my late 50's and can still pop twice in an hour. And I attribute a lot of this to the fact that I take care of myself. I drink minimally, don't smoke, I'm in the gym 5 days a week, eat a fairly clean diet, and walk several miles a day. So I'm doing everything I can to maintain health and sensitivity. I have friends in their late 60's and early seventies in this country you are still doing one to two gals a day and have no problems using condoms.
And there are a lot of fiwfans gals that have worked overseas including in saunas in Macau, where skill sets must be good, and in Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. I have by far some of my best Bangkok experiences in my 23-year tenure with fiwfans gals. Definitely the top 3 best looking gals I've ever had were fiwfans gals and one was pure PSE filth, minus the BBFS. Also, many of these girls that have worked overseas can actually carry on a conversation and have a little bit of an ability to be erotic and seductive, unlike basically all the GoGo gals I've been with.
The gals at Kas and Lolita's I don't find least bit attractive, I wouldn't let any of them near me to tell you the truth.
As I've gotten older I've become significantly more discriminating when it comes to looks. Flat stomach, no baby (that's the important one), lighter skin, and no hard Isaan look, preferring northern and central gals. And I like a gal who can seduce and perhaps really understands a bit of kink. I've found it all online.
I'll never forget one go go girl who I tried to get to engage in some dirty talk, and she looked at me shocked and said, "I'm a nice girl. " Don't think I've ever laughed so hard at the ability to compartmentalize and disconnect.Do you also wear a condom for BJs? Just curious given how safe you are about preventing STDs. I also never BBFS. As far as BBBJ, it's kind of a case by case basis for me.
Steve 9696
08-05-23, 20:32
Hi all,
I am heading your way next week. Still pretty new to the game, is anyone willing to show me the ropes in exchange for a drink or two in nana? At Steve are you still around at the end of next week?Unfortunately I left recently. Boo. I did drown my sorrows in an amazing Seeking Arrangements girl I flew to Athens tho!
Happy to provide any / all advice tho. Just PM me.
HorseTrader
08-05-23, 23:30
I'm in my late 50's and can still pop twice in an hour. And I attribute a lot of this to the fact that I take care of myself. I drink minimally, don't smoke, I'm in the gym 5 days a week, eat a fairly clean diet, and walk several miles a day. So I'm doing everything I can to maintain health and sensitivity. I have friends in their late 60's and early seventies in this country you are still doing one to two gals a day and have no problems using condoms.In my late 50's I was getting 3 pops with condoms over 3 or 4 hours, I would do that every evening for a week or longer. The condom actually made it better because it prevented me from popping too quickly. Things are different now that I'm about 70, the condom makes it difficult (or impossible) and multiple pops per day are unusual. I now do more exercise and healthier food, but that doesn't make up for the age difference.
Some of us have a choice of BB sex or no sex at all. I'm almost at that point.
In my late 50's I was getting 3 pops with condoms over 3 or 4 hours, I would do that every evening for a week or longer. The condom actually made it better because it prevented me from popping too quickly. Things are different now that I'm about 70, the condom makes it difficult (or impossible) and multiple pops per day are unusual. I now do more exercise and healthier food, but that doesn't make up for the age difference.
Some of us have a choice of BB sex or no sex at all. I'm almost at that point.Definitely becomes a question of health at that point as well. Getting a bad prostate infection as we age can be a real bummer and the after effects of that can really linger. There is nothing good about getting older.
MachchiBaba
08-06-23, 03:04
Definitely becomes a question of health at that point as well. Getting a bad prostate infection as we age can be a real bummer and the after effects of that can really linger. There is nothing good about getting older.You are right on the money! Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis (CBP) is lot more easier to progress into than many people at these ages realize. Especially in Thailand and other Asian countries there is a dominance of mutations of E Coli ESBL bacteria that can easily become an UTI due to unsafe or rather adventurous sex practices. At old ages prostates are usually enlarged and thus UTI can easily progress into ABP and from there to CBP (Acute to Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis). These bacterias in Thailand being ESBLs, they are resistant to antibiotics, so the drugs available don't work. Even if the the drugs were sensitive those drugs that develop therapeutic level of concentration in prostate to act are are few and are deadly antibiotics with black box label from US FDA. As an example Livofoxacin, look it up. So net-net, be careful, don't think that just because you did STD test with the girl and everything came back -ve you are good to go with the girl. This is one example that can bring you down big time, there are so many more examples I can go on and on. Sorry to scare you but this is real please be careful while hobbying. People who write all kinds of acronyms describing "real sex" - it is just a matter of time till they get punched on their faces. Love the Mike Tyson's line - "Everyone has a plan until they get punched on their face".
Definitely becomes a question of health at that point as well. Getting a bad prostate infection as we age can be a real bummer and the after effects of that can really linger. There is nothing good about getting older.My Mini Yezhov (and that's really small) works great, but I know my limitations due to back injusries, Arthur-itis, prostate infections (3 years with one of those) and all the other crap you get as the years March on. And I work as much as possible to stay active, hell, I can do the Ho Loop (Nana to Kaslong to Lolitas to Cowboy to Thermae, to 11, to 7/1 back to Nana) sometimes twice, although if I do that and don't select a receptacle, I'm going home LOL.
And I don't select a lot because I generally want what I want. Sometimes its there and sometime it isn't.
I usually pull them out of Thermae. Why? Because for $3 I can have a soda or a drink, the staff and owners treat me like a King after 20 years and I can sit in the air conditioning and watch the virgin Asians in their Quest of Pussy (some of them act like they have never seen a woman before, no wonder the girls love them). Plus if I want something, I can find it. The girls all talk among themselves so I'm almost a celebrity to them. In fact, on Thursday last, I was saying Hi to a new sweetie when one of the Thermae honchos came by and gve me a bro hug. That got some eyes from the new girls. I even have a nickname there (its cute and apropos).
I was really feeling it last Thursday, I kn ew I would be going to Cambo in Friday where even the illusion of hot chicks are lacking (although I pounded a Ruddian expat this weekend, no I'm not marraige material) so just because, I took a girl who I have seen there for 6 years. She looked real good, I said what the hell so I took her. Nice, girl, nice bod, took it like a champ.
Oh did I mention I like Thermae because of the pricing? My pricing, not yours, don't ask. If you live here, you have your ways.
Here is Yezhovs current Rules for First Timers for a Sucessful Trip.
1. Read this forum, go back one year beofre covid and since reopenting. Ignore Covid time.
2. Travel by yourself. Wingmen hinder you.
3. For Indian dudes, if you want to break out of the Indian clubs, Dress like a Westerner, get a Western haircut. Act like a westerner, which means American or British. Don't be walking around with a gaggle of your buddies holding hands or sharing drinks. Act like your nephew whose was born in the USA. Watch Vivek for President videos (goooo Vivek!
4. don't drink too much.
5. When ordering lady drinks, hold your finger up, tell her one, empasize ONE lady drink, nicely and politely. Quite frankly, if you get ripped off, its your fault.
6. don't take tuk tuks anywhere near Suk.
7. don't stay in the Suk sewer UNLESS you are getting 5 star cheap. Get your hotel in Silom (far nice to hang and explore on off days than lower Suk) or Phrom Pong, Ekkamai, etc. The farthest is 120 B.
Taxi. If your girl can't get a taxi outside the club at 3 am, you need a new one.
8. No meter, no go. Easy. Silom khap? 150 baht. Meter. No. Done. Next car or Grab. And avoid the parked taxi mafia, walk 50 meters.
9. don't overplan. No plan survives the first bumping of uglies.
10. If you are here for a week and its your first time, why are you messing with Fiwfans? Thats for oldjes who have forgotten more about GoGos than you will ever know and are tired of them. Get in the gutter and crawl as we all did.
11. If you never smoked weed before, note that 99% of the street table stuff is crap. Get the 300 b per g stuff in a small place, that's enough for you. Don't buy pre-rolls. If you can't roll, go to the Nana beer bar in the weed section and look for an American.
Consider.
Aren't Kapoo clubs another option where, yes, you can hire young good looking girls but their typical "no sex" policy limits the sexual activity to Hand Jobs?
Yes. The Kapoo clubs that I've been to near where I live all have a set entrance fee which gets you 90 minutes of naked B2 B oil massage plus HJ from a young, good looking girl. However, once in the room all extras are usually available after a private negotiation with the girl.
Definitely becomes a question of health at that point as well. Getting a bad prostate infection as we age can be a real bummer and the after effects of that can really linger. There is nothing good about getting older.I envy your and anyone's ability to get it up, keep it up and get it off while wearing a condom. It would definitely make a mongering destination like Thailand smoother sailing.
Similar to Horse Trader, for me it pretty much comes down to either BB sex or no sex at all. But unlike Horse Trader that reality did not set in at or near age 70. It began in my late teens from the first times I had sex.
Yes, I do enjoy a good BBBJ+CIM and am generally fine with accepting that as an alternative. However, that requires a level of skill and expertise that is not very likely to have been developed by a Fiwfans supermodel type or any other girl whose good looks leave almost all others in the dust. Just the way of the world.
So a claim to provide it by such a P4 P girl whether on Fiwfans or anywhere else realistically is met with scepticism by me informed by decades of experience. Instead, I would count on a claim by such a girl to be only partially being true. And probably not the best part. LOL.
Now, I would say my lifestyle and efforts to stay healthy and fit at age 70 and for decades prior mirrors yours:
And I attribute a lot of this to the fact that I take care of myself. I drink minimally, don't smoke, I'm in the gym 5 days a week, eat a fairly clean diet, and walk several miles a day. So I'm doing everything I can to maintain health and sensitivity. I have friends in their late 60's and early seventies in this country you are still doing one to two gals a day and have no problems using condoms.However, it did not result in me being able to have enjoyable and successful sex while wearing a condom. On the other hand, maybe it did contribute to my history of having BBFS+CIP / Real Sex by my definition with thousands of different women around the world, paid and free but mostly paid, for the past 50 years since I began mongering at age 20 without catching a dose of anything requiring medical attention, taking or applying medicine to cure or control it, producing symptoms, showing up in a rigorous physical check up or in infecting any of my thousands of different sex partners with anything since I began this hobby.
Combined with good luck I suppose. And my vasectomy has been effective in preventing an unwanted pregnancy for any girl not already using an effective birth control method.
I envy your and anyone's ability to get it up, keep it up and get it off while wearing a condom. It would definitely make a mongering destination like Thailand smoother sailing.
Similar to Horse Trader, for me it pretty much comes down to either BB sex or no sex at all. But unlike Horse Trader that reality did not set in at or near age 70. It began in my late teens from the first times I had sex.
Yes, I do enjoy a good BBBJ+CIM and am generally fine with accepting that as an alternative. However, that requires a level of skill and expertise that is not very likely to have been developed by a Fiwfans supermodel type or any other girl whose good looks leave almost all others in the dust. Just the way of the world.
So a claim to provide it by such a P4 P girl whether on Fiwfans or anywhere else realistically is met with scepticism by me informed by decades of experience. Instead, I would count on a claim by such a girl to be only partially being true. And probably not the best part. LOL.
Now, I would say my lifestyle and efforts to stay healthy and fit at age 70 and for decades prior mirrors yours:
However, it did not result in me being able to have enjoyable and successful sex while wearing a condom. On the other hand, maybe it did contribute to my history of having BBFS+CIP / Real Sex by my definition with thousands of different women around the world, paid and free but mostly paid, for the past 50 years since I began mongering at age 20 without catching a dose of anything requiring medical attention, taking or applying medicine to cure or control it, producing symptoms, showing up in a rigorous physical check up or in infecting any of my thousands of different sex partners with anything since I began this hobby.
Combined with good luck I suppose. And my vasectomy has been effective in preventing an unwanted pregnancy for any girl not already using an effective birth control method.Have you guys had your testosterone levels tested? That can also have a huge effect on not only drive but function. Maintaining high levels in your 60's and 70's is a big boost and helps ward off some of the effects of aging. And replacement therapy is available here for those who need it. What is considered a normal level in the west is really way too low. I have several friends who have been on it long-term and I will not hesitate once my levels drop low enough.
I actually had to learn to use condoms as before i moved to LOS they were never really needed, mostly due to serial monogamy. Have found a few that are pretty close to skinning it.
As far as BBBJ is concerned yes, not all can do it well off the bat, considering we all like something different a little coaching is sometimes in order.
HorseTrader
08-06-23, 06:41
Have you guys had your testosterone levels tested? That can also have a huge effect on not only drive but function. Maintaining high levels in your 60's and 70's is a big boost and helps ward off some of the effects of aging. And replacement therapy is available here for those who need it. What is considered a normal level in the west is really way too low. I have several friends who have been on it long-term and I will not hesitate once my levels drop low enough.I have it checked every 3 or 4 months and get testosterone therapy accordingly. Occasionally my testosterone level gets too low and I lose all energy for everything, it’s important for more than sex.
For those considering testosterone replacement, I recommend you see a urologist who specializes in this field. I initially got mine from my primary care physician and I now think that starting without expert guidance was a mistake. .
Most of the agents list their telegram on the gal's pages. Fiwfans also has their own telegram page which includes quite a few reviews.
Honestly, learning how to navigate this is taking a lot of time and patience, and I don't mind sharing some knowledge with people, but honestly, I kind of expect some good information in return. Learning which agents are good, which ones keep performance standards for their girls, which ones are really farang friendly, and which ones aren't, is a long slow process.
Well, that's not really helpful to the forum.
I don't expect anything in return for providing whatever information I can provide, just "paying it forward" as I wouldn't even know about fiwfans if not for SinfullyKorean (if I remember correctly, who again learned from someone else here).
Recently I booked two sessions with fiwfans girls, one hour apart. One was with my first fiwfan girl, and the first time I've booked the same girl twice so far: "Champagne".
The other one was with a girl I've been trying to book for a couple of weeks, but who's always been busy at my chosen time: "Honey".
Both girls are listed as 20 years old, which I think is accurate enough. Both girls look good, Champagne rather on the thin side, while Honey, while still slim, has unusually great boobs and ass for a Thai girl. Honey has tan skin, which I guess is why her rates are lower than several other girls who I think don't look half as good, but who were "blessed" with lighter skin ref. the Thai obsession with light skin.
Both girls very friendly (at least if you're friendly yourself) and good service, to the extent I'm probably going to repeat with Honey too before I depart for farangland.
MachchiBaba
08-06-23, 13:48
Watch Vivek for President videos (goooo Vivek!
I realize this is not a political forum but a quick comment. He is certainly a strong republican candidate, yeah Go Vivek! Delighted to see republican diversity this time around, I presume it might bring back a lot of democrat voters.
Vicky Cooper
08-06-23, 14:38
Hi,
So I am in my mid thirties and have lost both my parents a few years earlier. I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards. Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering. I started out in this hobby about 12 years ago when I was fresh out of college and landed a short time job in DXB. A PRC girl it was that I lost my virginity to at age 21. At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness.
I just don't want to end up at the age of 50 or 60 year old Nearing retirement without any savings left having lost it to this expensive hobby of mongering. I know from wisdom that marriage too is not a solution either as in these times its a very very expensive affair and divorce rates are sky high! I am quite attractive and most girls find me very pleasant but never managed to bag a girl friend over the years.
Hope to have some light on this from older experienced mongers here.
Thank You.
MachchiBaba
08-06-23, 16:40
Hi,
So I am in my mid thirties and have lost both my parents a few years earlier. I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards. Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering. I started out in this hobby about 12 years ago when I was fresh out of college and landed a short time job in DXB. A PRC girl it was that I lost my virginity to at age 21. At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness..Wow. Your post seems honest and sorry for your loss. The first thing that crossed my mind is finance. Your cash inflow seems like is one-fourth or less of your mongering expenses assuming you would do these more often unless your inheritance asset has returns are substantial. If I were you I would fuel these things with house money, like investment gains for example. I am almost hitting 50 and I make good money relatively in the Land of Free but I have never spent my hard earned money on mongering. I do however spend a lot on mongering around the world, all of which is from capital gains that I manage myself. Thanks to Wall Street!
Hi,
So I am in my mid thirties and have lost both my parents a few years earlier. I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards. Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering. I started out in this hobby about 12 years ago when I was fresh out of college and landed a short time job in DXB. A PRC girl it was that I lost my virginity to at age 21. At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness..80 k baht ($2,300) in 4 days? LOL. You're clearly doing something wrong.
If you're on an extremely tight budget, you can easily get by on 2 k baht a day with one ST session included.
Vicky Cooper
08-06-23, 19:25
80 k baht ($2,300) in 4 days? LOL. You're clearly doing something wrong.
If you're on an extremely tight budget, you can easily get by on 2 k baht a day with one ST session included.80 K baht was all inclusive for the air ticket to and back from BKK, hotel, food, soe shopping & mongering. I stayed at a 5 star hotel. It costed me on average 3400 THB per night.
I'd hit the nuru massage parlours in the day and about 3000 THB was the damage, Night time I would visit a gogo bar at Nana and bar fine somebody- 1 K Bar fine, 3 K to the girl and about 500 THB on drinks and lady drinks = 4500 THB.
Sometimes I'd visit 2 MP during the day.
HorseTrader
08-06-23, 20:16
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
The first thing to do is stop the 4-day trips. You are spending too much time and money getting from your home in India to punting zone in Thailand. Once you get to Thailand, stay longer.
HorseTrader
08-06-23, 20:19
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
The first thing to do is stop the 4-day trips. You are spending too much time and money getting from your home in India to punting zone in Thailand. Once you get to Thailand, stay longer but make fewer trips.
If you are here for a week and its your first time, why are you messing with Fiwfans? That's for oldies who have forgotten more about Go-Gos than you will ever know and are tired of them. Get in the gutter and crawl as we all did.The rest of Mr. Nyezhov's advice is worthwhile, but this one is pure GOLD.
The go-gos in Bangkok should be on every naughty boy's bucket list. A first time visitor owes it to himself to visit Baccara on Soi Cowboy, or one of the Rainbows at Nana Entertainment Plaza. Yes, the go-go scene is more expensive than, say, blowjob bars or girls who work on the street or as freelancers in the bars. Yes, the go-gos on Soi Cowboy that are owned by "the Arab" are clip joints. Yes the EDM is often loud.
But the chance to choose from dozens of girls that you can see live and in person beats staring at your phone. You can buy the girl a drink and get to know her, at least on a superficial level. This beats knocking on the door of a hotel room far off the beaten path and facing a take-it-or-leave-it choice. The go-go scene is about as organized as it gets when it comes to P4 P in BKK. Your companion will be a real woman, she'll have an ID to drop off at your hotel and she knows what's expected of her. In in unlikely event she flakes, you have at least some redress by complaining to the club.
So listen to our pals. They know what they're doing when it comes to getting laid in Bangkok.
Bunky
Hi,
At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness.
Thank You.I think you need to address the root cause which is the loneliness in your day to day life rather than focus on making lingering cheaper. One, this position makes you more vulnerable to people who may maliciously play on your emotions for personal gain and two drowning in P4 P women will be a temporary fix.
Other than the income and location my life story is similar to yours and focusing on your improving day to day life is the most "value. ".
Chan Chalupa
08-07-23, 00:14
It's ok to say India people. Come on.
Last night Sam Panday part of Ice Poseidon crew of live streamers went to a Thai place to eat Fried Lice. Apparently he got no service and was so hurt he was about to call the Police. Chat came to the conclusion he wasn't served because he look like poor Indian.
Context. He does look like poor Indian. And also does a ton of Nitrous Gas vias Balloons.
I'm not a fan of Racism but hey everyone is Racist. Most just keep it to themselves though.
Banana Boi
08-07-23, 01:06
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.How does someone even do this?
Airfare: India to Thailand 5 k baht (someone else said you're from India).
Hotels 3 nights at a pretty high end hotel 15 k baht.
Taxis - 1500 baht.
Food at nice restaurants all day for 3 full days 7500 baht.
Girls. Drinks at gogo bars 3 nights 15 k baht.
3 massage girls on Soi 24 in the day - 7500 baht.
3 girls from Thermae at 8 pm - 7500 baht
3 gogo girls for LT - 21 k baht.
Total - 80k baht. Very curious to see your breakdown on spending 80k baht because what I listed above is a dream vacation for almost any of us..
I just don't want to end up at the age of 50 or 60 year old Nearing retirement without any savings left having lost it to this expensive hobby of mongering.
Then stop cold turkey now. I can guarantee you will be broke AND IN DEBT if you hobby while making 500 USD per month.
Chan Chalupa
08-07-23, 01:19
How does someone even do this?
Airfare: India to Thailand 5 k baht (someone else said you're from India).
Hotels 3 nights at a pretty high end hotel 15 k baht.
Taxis - 1500 baht.
Food at nice restaurants all day for 3 full days 7500 baht.
Girls. Drinks at gogo bars 3 nights 15 k baht.
3 massage girls on Soi 24 in the day - 8 k baht.
3 gogo girls for LT - 21 k baht.
Total - 73 k baht. You're spending more than this and this is about as much as anyone I know would be spending in BKK for 4 days, 3 nights.
Then stop cold turkey now. I can guarantee you will be broke AND IN DEBT if you hobby while making 500 USD per month.To be fair.
Indians have to pay the Surcharge that most of us don't have too.
Ex. Those Deaf Nana girls probably charge him him 5,000 while others pay 1,100. Who knows.
We need detailed statement s to see what's happening.
Maybe that Nana BTS is charging him 10,000.
Hahaha.
...The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges...When you were preparing for this trip, how much did you plan to spend? Did you have a plan?
Can you break down how much of the 80 k was spent on - (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included).
Have you guys had your testosterone levels tested? That can also have a huge effect on not only drive but function. Maintaining high levels in your 60's and 70's is a big boost and helps ward off some of the effects of aging. And replacement therapy is available here for those who need it. What is considered a normal level in the west is really way too low. I have several friends who have been on it long-term and I will not hesitate once my levels drop low enough.
I actually had to learn to use condoms as before i moved to LOS they were never really needed, mostly due to serial monogamy. Have found a few that are pretty close to skinning it.
As far as BBBJ is concerned yes, not all can do it well off the bat, considering we all like something different a little coaching is sometimes in order.Absolutely. Over the years I have checked out several routes to see if higher testosterone, this or that condom, more or less lube in and around the condom, you name it would do the trick to make sex possible while wearing a condom. None worked.
I have never had a problem getting it up, keeping it up and getting it off without a condom. 2 hours of fucking in various positions with proper pacing to give my dick a moment's breather here and there or on the clock to finish in 5 minutes, it has always been up to me how long or how short I want a sex session to go. I have been blessed with that kind of control since my late teens.
A few years ago I decided to try some testosterone level check ups and treatments just to see if it would do anything for me, improve the fun and pleasure and, along the way, see if it made covered sex possible. Got the 90 day shots for almost two years. That resulted in no change in my tesosterone levels, my libido or the condom issue so I discontinued it.
I don't recall what my numbers were and can't say there was any mention of a "Western level" vs an "Asian level. " Seems to me my good level was something like 900 at the start of the treatments and 900 almost two years later at the end. Yes, I think there are two numbers to check but I don't remember both, which or either. I only remember the doctor adminstering the treatments told me my levels would have been above average for a 20 year old, had started and remained in that range and he no longer bothered to send me notifications that it was time to come in for another shot. So I never returned and discontinued the treatments.
Jayagopal50
08-07-23, 04:04
When you were preparing for this trip, how much did you plan to spend? Did you have a plan?
Can you break down how much of the 80 k was spent on - (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included).I think at $500/ monthly you have to look at what it may cost you in India for Quality you are getting. In my opinion no comparison. Luckily I am based in USA having migrated in 1970's. SADLY I have aged now, so drinking and partying not possible like before.
Explorer8939
08-07-23, 04:05
The rest of Mr. Nyezhov's advice is worthwhile, but this one is pure GOLD.
The go-gos in Bangkok should be on every naughty boy's bucket list. A first time visitor owes it to himself to visit Baccara on Soi Cowboy, or one of the Rainbows at Nana Entertainment Plaza. Yes, the go-go scene is more expensive than, say, blowjob bars or girls who work on the street or as freelancers in the bars. Yes, the go-gos on Soi Cowboy that are owned by "the Arab" are clip joints. Yes the EDM is often loud.
But the chance to choose from dozens of girls that you can see live and in person beats staring at your phone. You can buy the girl a drink and get to know her, at least on a superficial level. This beats knocking on the door of a hotel room far off the beaten path and facing a take-it-or-leave-it choice. The go-go scene is about as organized as it gets when it comes to P4 P in BKK. Your companion will be a real woman, she'll have an ID to drop off at your hotel and she knows what's expected of her. In in unlikely event she flakes, you have at least some redress by complaining to the club.
So listen to our pals. They know what they're doing when it comes to getting laid in Bangkok.
BunkyI dunno, I went to Nana Plaza the other night, and the selection was not very good.
Crazy House in Soi Cowboy was better, but mostly silicon enhanced MILFs.
Expat American
08-07-23, 04:11
Hi,
So I am in my mid thirties and have lost both my parents a few years earlier. I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards. Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering. I started out in this hobby about 12 years ago when I was fresh out of college and landed a short time job in DXB. A PRC girl it was that I lost my virginity to at age 21. At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness.
I just don't want to end up at the age of 50 or 60 year old Nearing retirement without any savings left having lost it to this expensive hobby of mongering. I know from wisdom that marriage too is not a solution either as in these times its a very very expensive affair and divorce rates are sky high! I am quite attractive and most girls find me very pleasant but never managed to bag a girl friend over the years.
Hope to have some light on this from older experienced mongers here.
Thank You.Why do you monger? As a young attractive man, you should focus your energy on dating. $500/ month is about INR 40 K per month. In a major city like Mumbai or Delhi that is indeed peanuts, in a smaller town it would go pretty far. Why not focus on your career and bring up the earnings? Sorry for your loss. In India family support is the most important and it is understandable that you feel lost to some extent. But don't use mongering to escape those emotions. Maybe find some support in extended family. What I am saying in the end is that don't use mongering as an emotional crutch. Your problem seems less finance and more emotional. Work on the root cause and you will be better all around.
Chan Chalupa
08-07-23, 05:07
I dunno, I went to Nana Plaza the other night, and the selection was not very good.
Crazy House in Soi Cowboy was better, but mostly silicon enhanced MILFs.I doubt you will find 1,000 baht girls within the Confines of Nana Plaza.
If you willing to go 4400 all in well that's another Story.
Hi,
So I am in my mid thirties and have lost both my parents a few years earlier. I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards. Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering. I started out in this hobby about 12 years ago when I was fresh out of college and landed a short time job in DXB. A PRC girl it was that I lost my virginity to at age 21. At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness.
I just don't want to end up at the age of 50 or 60 year old Nearing retirement without any savings left having lost it to this expensive hobby of mongering. I know from wisdom that marriage too is not a solution either as in these times its a very very expensive affair and divorce rates are sky high! I am quite attractive and most girls find me very pleasant but never managed to bag a girl friend over the years.
Hope to have some light on this from older experienced mongers here.
Thank You.I was running into a similar issue where I wanted to hobby less. What I found working was trying to monger less in where I live (where it's plentiful, but expensive) and stick to a budget on any trips abroad where I'm mongering. Of course, easier said than done. What helped is I have two friends that know about my hobby and keep my accountable; and I always try to budget after I jerk one off. Post nut clarity is an amazing thing. I also try to fill my days with a lot of things, so I'm not always thinking about sex.
Good luck!
CityHunter77
08-07-23, 10:54
80 K baht was all inclusive for the air ticket to and back from BKK, hotel, food, soe shopping & mongering. I stayed at a 5 star hotel. It costed me on average 3400 THB per night.
I'd hit the nuru massage parlours in the day and about 3000 THB was the damage, Night time I would visit a gogo bar at Nana and bar fine somebody- 1 K Bar fine, 3 K to the girl and about 500 THB on drinks and lady drinks = 4500 THB.
Sometimes I'd visit 2 MP during the day.Have you looked at booking separate flights and accommodation, may work out cheaper. Since flights are roughly between 10 to 15 k.
You can probably go for cheaper accommodation and cut out the 3000 k massage for just a cheaper massage or go to a BJ bar.
You should think about joining a hotel loyalty program if you are a regular visitor. On my next trip to Bangkok I will be staying free on points.
MickeyDuck1208
08-07-23, 11:54
I am from the Sub continent too. First off, 80 K THB is about 2 L INR for a 4 day trip which is really expensive. Even the 5 star does not justify this since Thailand is much cheaper compared to even, Dubai. Flights. Avoid Thai, take Indigo. Timings are inconvenient, but when the company is not paying for it you can lose some sleep. Even better if you get a connection via KL, go for it, sometimes even cheaper on Air Asia. Shop around for tickets. Hotel - 8 K is ok per night for a 5 star, but you can go down to a 3 star one too. Ping some of the girls on MR, sideline and fiwfans and check what hotel they are in. Book the same. Has worked well for me both in BKK and Dubai. MP you seem to have spent on the higher side, look around and bargain, Thermae pick ups might be better since you can avoid some bar fine, etc. And you said you are a young good looking guy. So most of the girls should be agreeable to come with you.
The core problem. Condolences for your loss. Is female company, not sex. Find something you like to do. Working out, running, hiking, photography, etc. Join a local Facebook group, meet new people and girls. Hit some pubs / bars on weekends, meet people. This is not a cheap thrill, you will lose out money since mind does not control your actions if you are desperate.
80 K baht was all inclusive for the air ticket to and back from BKK, hotel, food, soe shopping & mongering. I stayed at a 5 star hotel. It costed me on average 3400 THB per night.
I'd hit the nuru massage parlours in the day and about 3000 THB was the damage, Night time I would visit a gogo bar at Nana and bar fine somebody- 1 K Bar fine, 3 K to the girl and about 500 THB on drinks and lady drinks = 4500 THB.
Sometimes I'd visit 2 MP during the day.
Vicky Cooper
08-07-23, 12:16
Hi,
So I am in my mid thirties and have lost both my parents a few years earlier. I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards. Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering. I started out in this hobby about 12 years ago when I was fresh out of college and landed a short time job in DXB. A PRC girl it was that I lost my virginity to at age 21. At present I'm unmarried and very lonely. (never been married or had a GF BTW).
The problem is with this expensive hobby of mongering, I end up spending loads of money. My last trip to BKK last month, I spent about 80 K THB in 4 days (hotel, food, air ticket, boom boom all included) which I guess is quite a lot.
How do you folks manage to stick to a reasonable budget without breaking the bank and resist temptation versus the body's strong carnal & emotional urges. I find that over the years I turn to mongering more out of loneliness & someone to talk to rather than horniness.Thank you all for the feedback. I'm headed to BKK again September end for 3 nights. Have around 69 K THB to play with. However this time, I booked a cheaper flight on Indigo at 10 K THB. There was Air Asia which was about 9 K Baht but I decided to skip it as it was landing at 4 am in the morning that would imply me waiting in the hotel lobby up until noon for check in. I also booked a cheaper hotel for my upcoming trip this time. 5 K Baht for 3 nights instead of the 17 K Baht I paid earlier on the 5 star hotel.
This time I will be documenting my expenses very closely and try to keep my spending to a max of 10 K THB per day. Fingers crossed.
One reason why I am a bit liberal with money is because I own two flats here in my home country and do not have to pay rent apart from food, groceries & utilities. But that is no excuse in the long run and have to be more prudent with my expenses.
Cheers!
Steve 9696
08-07-23, 17:27
Thank you all for the feedback. I'm headed to BKK again September end for 3 nights. Have around 69 K THB to play with. However this time, I booked a cheaper flight on Indigo at 10 K THB. There was Air Asia which was about 9 K Baht but I decided to skip it as it was landing at 4 am in the morning that would imply me waiting in the hotel lobby up until noon for check in. I also booked a cheaper hotel for my upcoming trip this time. 5 K Baht for 3 nights instead of the 17 K Baht I paid earlier on the 5 star hotel.
This time I will be documenting my expenses very closely and try to keep my spending to a max of 10 K THB per day. Fingers crossed.
One reason why I am a bit liberal with money is because I own two flats here in my home country and do not have to pay rent apart from food, groceries & utilities. But that is no excuse in the long run and have to be more prudent with my expenses.
Cheers!That is a solid plan. Save on flights and hotels and spend it on girls. Even a top gogo girl is only 4-5 K baht. So you should be good. Add in a BJ at 7 Heaven for 1300 and veggie massage at 500 K and you should still be good!
I have a friend who does Mexico City and he calls it the “eat soup and fuck” plan (ie spend $$ on girls not food! ). Good plan.
HorseTrader
08-07-23, 19:54
I work a job in the sub continent which pays the equivalent of 500 USD per month which is peanuts by western standards.
I stayed at a 5 star hotel. It costed me on average 3400 THB per night.Am I reading this correctly? Your pay is about 500 USD per month and you are spending almost 100 USD per night for your hotel? Surely you jest. There has to be much more to the story that you aren't writing. Living rent-free isn't the only thing.
Am I reading this correctly? Your pay is about 500 USD per month and you are spending almost 100 USD per night for your hotel? Surely you jest. There has to be much more to the story that you aren't writing. Living rent-free isn't the only thing.Yep, I agree this math does not make any sense. Even if you made 20000 USD a month after tax you would not spend like this.
Folks, I am looking for an experience that I have not yet found in BKK. I am looking for a kind of all-inclusive brothel featuring hot pools, cold pools, sauna / steam rooms, massage and of course working girls! The closest I have come is Silom Sauna on Suk Soi 22 which has these features but in a fairly downmarket atmosphere and quality (to be fair their prices are commensurate, so I do still go there). But can I find a more posh spa-cum-*****house? Only the wise folks of ISG know. !
P.S.: I'm OK with soapy massage, but it's not exactly what I am seeking.
Am I reading this correctly? Your pay is about 500 USD per month and you are spending almost 100 USD per night for your hotel? Surely you jest. There has to be much more to the story that you aren't writing. Living rent-free isn't the only thing.You missed this part.
... Apart from this I have a small but significant amount of inheritance received from the demise of my parents which fuels my mongering...
Thank you all for the feedback. I'm headed to BKK again September end for 3 nights. Have around 69 K THB to play with...Is this 69 K your remaining inheritance, or is it the maximum amount that you are prepared to spend on this trip?
Regarding the issue of emotional distress and financial distress set forth below.
1. If you're unhappy in life, Thailand is not going to make you happy.
2. If you want a wife or a long-term partner, you're not going to find it on a street corner on lower Suk.
3. If you wonder constantly about your finances and worry about them, you shouldn't be spending the money.
Vicky Cooper
08-08-23, 05:54
Is this 69 K your remaining inheritance, or is it the maximum amount that you are prepared to spend on this trip?Of course it's not the last of my inheritance. I still have plenty more left in the bank. It's just the maximum amount I'm ready to spend on this trip. Although in reality I won't spend all of it just taking extra to cover up in case I get stuck or run into an emergency like an accident. It's always good to have more than necessary for an emergency.
Most folks here are just commenting on my income but fail to see the inheritance part. Property plus money. Granted spending lavishly like this would eventually exhaust the inheritance too but that would take a few years more and I'm not going to that extent.
I plan to stop all mongering after this trip and focus on saving up. My next Thailand trip could be after about 5 years and not any time soon.
Folks, I am looking for an experience that I have not yet found in BKK. I am looking for a kind of all-inclusive brothel featuring hot pools, cold pools, sauna / steam rooms, massage and of course working girls! The closest I have come is Silom Sauna on Suk Soi 22 which has these features but in a fairly downmarket atmosphere and quality (to be fair their prices are commensurate, so I do still go there). But can I find a more posh spa-cum-*****house? Only the wise folks of ISG know. !
P.S.: I'm OK with soapy massage, but it's not exactly what I am seeking.FKK in Frankfut, about $1000 rt from BKK.
Hey guys.
Any ideas here?
Dear fellas,
Going with my girlfriend to Bangkok this winter and looking for recommendations for some nice and experience as a couple.
My better half is quite open minded and up for everything (yes, quite happy about it) so my task is to plan a sexy trip.
Looking for 3-4 different versions what to try together: Getting or taking an escort to our hotel room (or 2, that was her idea), soaping massage, "normal" happy ending massage and so on. What else would you think of?
Besides of Nana, Cowboy, which places would you recommend?
As we are both beginning of 30 and attractive so we like young, model-type girls beginning of 20's. The price doesn't play a big role, I just want to get us unforgettable memories.
So places can be high-end (maybe Poseidon? It has to be without any time pressure (no BJ bar or ST booking haha) and more in nice environment (I saw places like Termae but I think that one would not be the best place for her in terms of spirit.
Usually we are more into (eastern-) European girls (I guess in BKK you need to hunt for that in normal clubs as usual) but Thai could also be sexy.
Looking forward for your answers.
MachchiBaba
08-08-23, 14:22
Regarding the issue of emotional distress and financial distress set forth below.
1. If you're unhappy in life, Thailand is not going to make you happy.
2. If you want a wife or a long-term partner, you're not going to find it on a street corner on lower Suk.
3. If you wonder constantly about your finances and worry about them, you shouldn't be spending the money.These are the words of wisdom! It doesn't get any simpler than this.
Folks, I am looking for an experience that I have not yet found in BKK. I am looking for a kind of all-inclusive brothel featuring hot pools, cold pools, sauna / steam rooms, massage and of course working girls! The closest I have come is Silom Sauna on Suk Soi 22 which has these features but in a fairly downmarket atmosphere and quality (to be fair their prices are commensurate, so I do still go there). But can I find a more posh spa-cum-*****house? Only the wise folks of ISG know. !
P.S.: I'm OK with soapy massage, but it's not exactly what I am seeking.Is this Silom Sauna strictly a sauna / steam room? How much is the entrance fee?
Is this Silom Sauna strictly a sauna / steam room? How much is the entrance fee?Silom Sauna is a mini-complex with several hot and cold pools, a sauna, exercise equipment, a relaxation area, food / drink service and an area with massage girls who will take you to a little room with a shower and a bed for massage and of course more. I think the entry fee is around 300-400 baht, plus another 300 baht for the massage room. Plus anything extra you negotiate with the massage girl. BUT. The whole place is pretty run down: think concrete bunker with nearly no charm.
SBlack0070
08-09-23, 02:00
I'm visiting Bangkok only for some few hours and need your advice.
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 4 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.
Assuming you are flying economy. It'll be tight and stressful.
Too many variables. Immigration is the biggest variable. You might take an hour just to clear migration. Suvarnabhumi is huge and there's lots walking. Even getting a taxi can take time. Then a good half hour to one hour to anywhere decent. Consider that time for getting back to the airport and to your flight. That leaves about 30 to 60 but I think that's optimistic.
Or if this isn't the answer your wanted, yes you can but you might miss your flight.
Best sex in bkk is relaxed and not under pressure. Can you change your flight?
I'm visiting Bangkok only for some few hours and need your advice.
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 4 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.
FKK in Frankfut, about $1000 rt from BKK.Another venue is the saunas In Macau.
You could try lat krabang but I never saw any places there that could be described as being likely.
Assuming you are flying economy. It'll be tight and stressful.
Too many variables. Immigration is the biggest variable. You might take an hour just to clear migration. Suvarnabhumi is huge and there's lots walking. Even getting a taxi can take time. Then a good half hour to one hour to anywhere decent. Consider that time for getting back to the airport and to your flight. That leaves about 30 to 60 but I think that's optimistic.
Or if this isn't the answer your wanted, yes you can but you might miss your flight.
Best sex in bkk is relaxed and not under pressure. Can you change your flight?
I'm visiting Bangkok only for some few hours and need your advice.
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 4 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.Clearing immigration, then going back into TSA will take a couple of hours. You're going to be cutting it close. I wouldn't risk it personally.
I think you are playing it tight, expect immigration chaos / delays while coming out & don't forget the traffic. It took me almost 100-120 minutes to get to the city centre. And buddy if all goes well as per your plan you get only 1-1. 2 hours for action. You'll always be looking at the clock and will get a hurried service. My 2 cents! SL.
I'm visiting Bangkok only for some few hours and need your advice.
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 4 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.
Started the morning at 1130 am at the famous Tulip with Dao (legend) and had a good 90 mins with her where we did all positions and she gives good head and finished with her riding cowboy, then went for a nice relaxing lunch at Emporium nearby (next BTS stop) and then proceeded to Daisy Dream for the Nuru Massage.
Daisy Dream (Sukumvit Soi 33) is another type of enjoyment where it is quote nicely decorated at the lounge as you enter. The mamasan will bring the selection of girls for you to choose your preference, which I chose a slightly more busty girl as Nuru needed the right curves to have a full enjoyment. Started with guru massage on the air foam mattress and had one round on the mattress which she offered to CIM if you prefer. We then moved to the jacuzzi where the cleaning and soaping was very relaxing and got you hard again after some time for the next round on the bed. Overall damage was THB5 k and THB1 k as tips as service was very attentive and not rushed. IMHO not a bad deal in the current post pandemic environment where times are bad.
Will return to sample other girls next time.
Silom Sauna is a mini-complex with several hot and cold pools, a sauna, exercise equipment, a relaxation area, food / drink service and an area with massage girls who will take you to a little room with a shower and a bed for massage and of course more. I think the entry fee is around 300-400 baht, plus another 300 baht for the massage room. Plus anything extra you negotiate with the massage girl. BUT. The whole place is pretty run down: think concrete bunker with nearly no charm.Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I looked it up, it looks pretty sad hehe. I'll pass. A high end version of this like an FKK would kill in BKK, surprising they haven't popped up.
Messaged on line and immediately got pictures of providers. This kapoo club is really good for English communication. Booked an afternoon visit with a"supermodel" for 6000 bath. Her name was Sunshine. Picture matched less Photoshop discount. Surprisingly her English was decent. Standard massage parlor procedure of bath, BBBJ, capped sex then. Massage. All very well done.
She has fake boobs which I don't like. But she was sweet and she told me 90 percent of the clients are Thai.
Would definitely repeat. Saw some cuter girls there. Did not see any ugly girls. Bangkok traffic made this a 30 minute excursion from Asoke.
Messaged on line and immediately got pictures of providers. This kapoo club is really good for English communication. Booked an afternoon visit with a"supermodel" for 6000 bath. Her name was Sunshine. Picture matched less Photoshop discount. Surprisingly her English was decent. Standard massage parlor procedure of bath, BBBJ, capped sex then. Massage. All very well done.
She has fake boobs which I don't like. But she was sweet and she told me 90 percent of the clients are Thai.
Would definitely repeat. Saw some cuter girls there. Did not see any ugly girls. Bangkok traffic made this a 30 minute excursion from Asoke.Location? I'll find that I'm sure as will other old hands, but how about giving us a location for the new guys next time.
Indy Hundred
08-12-23, 03:22
As the connecting flight is just 4 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.As others have said, there just isn't enough time. It will take an hour to get out of the airport and a couple of hours to get back in, even if you already have your boarding as security and immigration just have to be done in their own sweet time.
The airport itself is quite nice. Lots of good restaurants that you can have a thai meal and local beer. Pre-Covid, there used to be a legit massage place in the terminal. A good place to get a foot massage and just imagine what could have been.
Another suggestion, and not knowing your situation at all, you can just "miss " your connecting flight. Show up at the gate as the doors are closing and then they will put you on the next flight. Provided the next flight is more than four hours away, you could head out and find a BKK special. Or, when checking in, ask if there is a later flight so you have more time in BKK. Airlines can be quite accommodating sometimes.
Explorer8939
08-12-23, 05:54
I'm visiting Bangkok only for some few hours and need your advice.
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 4 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.Change your flight so you have a longer stopover in Thailand.
I used to live in Bangkok during the glory days of Nataree. Those were incredible times, I was there multiple times every week and the selection was abundant and never ending. Perhaps some of the most freshest, most beautiful girls I will ever have the opportunity to meet. So sad that Nataree is gone. La Belle, Colonze 2, and La Defense were occasionally decent too.
I am going to visit Bangkok later this month. I have not been back in Thailand since the pandemic, and I am certain things have changed. I've been reading through the posts here, and it seems like the happy days of the soapies is gone forever.
What's the best way to find fresh talent nowadays? Is it all online through FiwFans and Smoochi? Are there still places with a fishbowl and lineup that has girls in their early twenties?
I've been reading through the posts and it feels like the only good option nowadays is Fiwfans?
Banana Boi
08-12-23, 20:58
Location? I'll find that I'm sure as will other old hands, but how about giving us a location for the new guys next time.https://bangkoknightlife.com/best-kapooclubs/
Guess he's talking about Penthouse Spa. Personally never been to any of these kapoo clubs.
https://bangkoknightlife.com/best-kapooclubs/
Guess he's talking about Penthouse Spa. Personally never been to any of these kapoo clubs.Kapoo Clubs are for asians / locals and farangs who are dumb enough to think this is a thing to do. Obviously this may not be the prevailing opinion. But these clubs aren't for western mongers, they are for asian clients showing face and blowing money on shit you can get cheaper and better elsewhere, just to show off money and pretend some girl isn't just a complete sex worker.
Chan Chalupa
08-13-23, 02:01
Kapoo Clubs are for asians / locals and farangs who are dumb enough to think this is a thing to do. Obviously this may not be the prevailing opinion. But these clubs aren't for western mongers, they are for asian clients showing face and blowing money on shit you can get cheaper and better elsewhere, just to show off money and pretend some girl isn't just a complete sex worker.Pre covada.
These Kapoo Girls are no better looking than an average Streetwalker.
MachchiBaba
08-13-23, 03:03
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A lot is changed after Covid; nowadays I try to find my luck again in malls again.Last time I was in BKK, I stayed at the Sofitel next to Soi13, so I would hang out inside Terminal 21 for quite sometime, mostly around at or around the Starbucks and food courts. But I could never hit a pulse on finding anyone. I probably don't know the secrets around mall pickup. Some experiences stories in this area may certainly help.
Last time I was in BKK, I stayed at the Sofitel next to Soi13, so I would hang out inside Terminal 21 for quite sometime, mostly around at or around the Starbucks and food courts. But I could never hit a pulse on finding anyone. I probably don't know the secrets around mall pickup. Some experiences stories in this area may certainly help.Be handsome, rich, and Western.
Last time I was in BKK, I stayed at the Sofitel next to Soi13, so I would hang out inside Terminal 21 for quite sometime, mostly around at or around the Starbucks and food courts. But I could never hit a pulse on finding anyone. I probably don't know the secrets around mall pickup. Some experiences stories in this area may certainly help.
I'm no expert, but I think the secret is to just to it. In the beginning you might get shot down 99 out of a hundred times when you approach a girl, but if you keep doing it, like with
swimming, you will become better.
A few days ago I was hanging out outside what is still a nice Thai restaurant in Terminal 21, but I guess they got on tripadvisor or something, so now there's always a wait to get in and it's full of chinese and farang riff-raff.
So I'm just hanging out outside by the escalators, waiting for my queue number to come up and checking something on my phone. Next to me is a rather tall, fine, unusually well dressed asian chick. Around 27-28 years old I guess, playing on her phone. I'm 20 years older, like to think myself handsome, but I know the real truth. ;-) Still, I do like exercise and that has a positive effect, mentally also, that I will recommend anyone.
me: hey. *smile*
she: <looks up> hey.
me: you don't look very Thai. *laughs*
she: no, I'm not. *smiles a bit*
me: can I guess? Japan?
she: no, I'm from Taiwan.
me: ah, how do you like Thailand?
she: it's nice. I like it.
me: me too. Are you staying here for a long time?
she: no, just two days. I'm leaving tomorrow.
me: Oh, that's really short. Why so short?
she: I work for an airline, so I'm just <whatever, I don't remember>. What about you? You've been here a long time?
me: yeah, about a month. But working for an airline, I guess you get to travel a lot then?
she: <yeah, blah blah. Also mentions the country I actually live in, so we talk a little about that too>
me: Hey, I'm going to eat dinner inside this restaurant now, why don't you join me?
she: oh sorry, I can't. I'm just picking up this food <her plastic bags with some stuff in it> for my friends and we will go eat in the hotel together. I'm trying to find them on my phone now.
me: ah, ok. That's bad luck. *smile*
she: yeah, sorry.
<I hear my queue number being called out and start to go>
me: Okey, I'll go to eat now. You have a nice evening then. *smile*
she: thanks, you too. *smile*
Well, nothing good came from interaction as you see, but it was free. Had she been staying here I'd ask about her line/phone number and see if I can meet her some other time, which may or may not have
happened. But she's not, and in a few weeks I'm leaving. My only point with that story is that the more you do things like that, the easier it becomes, and the more success you will have.
You don't need to dive into the deep end of the swimming pool in order to learn swimming. You can start in water that barely reaches your waist. If you want to become better at it, in the beginning you
don't even need to do it with the girls that are actually so hot that you want to meet them again. It will probably even work better, learning-wise, to do it with less pretty girls in the beginning. Just do it with everyone and anyone to get practice and build up your own confidence about talking and
interacting with girls.
Newton York
08-13-23, 18:46
It's weird how from time to time someone here would say they miss this and that about Thailand, and how it used to be, such and such place was awesome, but now it's gone, etc. It's interesting in the sense that when you think about*it, it's always brought up by someone, every year, all the time, for years, giving the impression that the best of a mongering destination is always in the past, never in the present. I do that too sometimes, especially with my experiences in Prague, but I'd venture to say someone new to Prague now, if they have a positive experience would say it's the best place ever, etc. And when said person goes back 5 years from now, might not find it the 'same', hence to said person, feels like it's kinda downhill. In the same way that for someone who experienced Prague in the 90's or early 2000's would be disappointed by it if they went the same time I did back in the early 2010's. Yet for me it was mind blowing. For me though, the last few trips to Bangkok I've had, spread across 30 years, the experiences got better with*each trip. But for me it's because I changed my gameplan for each trip. Yes, there might be a place or two I miss about Bangkok as well, but compared to many hobbying destinations around the world, I'd dare say Bangkok always surprises me with the new places that pop up, as opposed to many european destinations where most establishments are closing shop. The only thing that everyone has right about the past, is yes, it was absolutely cheaper and way more affordable then, even with inflation factored in. There's no way around that, everything is just pricey these days. Kinda ridiculously so. I'm old now, and I feel for younger people, the world they are inheriting. We really fucked shit up for them. But who cares right? We'll be dead soon anyway, not our problem anymore. *.
All that being said, and with how argumentative folks then to be here, I still appreciate the info that comes out, though I'm not hobbying now, whenever I do, I try to give back with info in return. That's why when I stroll over to other parts of the forum, like in the Manila pages, it's always a bit disheartening to look through dozens of pages and hardly a single salient bit of info is imparted by anyone. It's just weirdly a lot of inane stuff. Why are we here gentlemen? Sure, a lot of trolling, and insulting each other is par for the course, everyone is brave when anonymity is the name of the game, but it's to provide info, feedback and maybe, just maybe even a little bit of moral support. It's weird how tough it is to find good, reliable, up to date information on the Manila scene. Call me boring, but that's why I stick to tried and true places like Prague, Bangkok, Singapore, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, etc. But finances being what they are these days, it's got to be Thailand from now on. *.
Thanks to someone on another forum, I've discovered the quality talent of BKK Happy massage have not disappeared, they've moved on to another spot. I wish I discovered that sooner, not that I can go anytime soon, but by God, it's making me really want to get on a plane so I can experience Noey and Haru again. Haru goes by a different name at the new place, but Noey is still Noey and her popularity shows, she's only available for outcalls at that place. I like to think I had a little something to do with that as I had reported on how awesome she is on multiple forums. I'm not a greedy fella, we should all share and talent like her doesn't stay secret for long. It's not like we're going to put a ring on it. All that being said though, I still prefer girls who'll let me CIM. On my last trip to Bangkok, I found 3 who would with me consistently. *.
Also, do you fellas notice that there's been an uptick on bareback availability in some of the places in Bangkok? Advertised as such on their websites too. I don't want to get into a debate on the merits and pitfalls of it all, to each his own, I'm just saying I'm noticing it. Anybody else notice it? I've been offered bareback from escorts and girls from time to time in my trips to Bangkok as well, I'm sure everyone has, but that it's being mentioned on websites of some massage places, that's kinda unusual. I would kinda expect it in some Austrian laufhauses, they say as much, but on the websites of some massage places in Bangkok. That seems to be new. There's one relatively new joint that says as much on their website, those of you in the know, know. I won't lie to ya fellas, in the heat of the moment, I've been tempted. I suppose it's more prevalent these days with prep and all that, but still. I don't know. Then again, I'm old, so what the hell right? Again, no judgment here, to each his own. *.
Stay safe, and happy fucking out there. And to all the fellas that got to retire in South East Asia, I wish I can do it too. Don't complain too much ok? You're in paradise and most guys would kill to have even a moment of what you've got. *.
but Noey is still Noey and her popularity shows, she's only available for outcalls at that place. I like to think I had a little something to do with that as I had reported on how awesome she is on multiple forums. I'm not a greedy fella, we should all share and talent like her doesn't stay secret for long. It's not like we're going to put a ring on it.Hi,
I don't want to break your good mood or sound like an *ss because you put a lot of effort in writing your reports and sharing your experiences last year, but the reality might be the opposite of what you'are wishing for.
I don't know where she is working right now and have no clue if she is popular or not, but I went two times in happybkk a few weeks after your reports from last year and she was available both times, I didn't even pick her (too short and looked a bit old, but she looked like a nice girl), the first time I remember they were only two girls in the line-up (a Monday evening).
My point is she didn't look to be that popular only a few weeks after your (excellent) reports, so I wouldn't go and believe that your reports from last year made her too popular and unavailable right now.
The fact she does only outcall can mean a lot of things, I wouldn't jump on the conclusion that it is because of her popularity.
MrRockwell47
08-13-23, 21:24
Hey all,
I'll be flying in to Bangkok, staying one day and one night, then flying out to Phuket the next day.
Wondering what's the best way to maximize the 24 hours or so.
Prefer younger, pretty, non-professional girls, but definitely looking for full service.
I'm young enough, good looking enough, and with enough cash to maximize the experience for whatever opportunities might exist.
Appreciate it in advance!
Also, do you fellas notice that there's been an uptick on bareback availability in some of the places in Bangkok? Advertised as such on their websites too. I don't want to get into a debate on the merits and pitfalls of it all, to each his own, I'm just saying I'm noticing it. Anybody else notice it? I've been offered bareback from escorts and girls from time to time in my trips to Bangkok as well, I'm sure everyone has, but that it's being mentioned on websites of some massage places, that's kinda unusual. I would kinda expect it in some Austrian laufhauses, they say as much, but on the websites of some massage places in Bangkok. That seems to be new. There's one relatively new joint that says as much on their website, those of you in the know, know. I won't lie to ya fellas, in the heat of the moment, I've been tempted. I suppose it's more prevalent these days with prep and all that, but still. I don't know. Then again, I'm old, so what the hell right? Again, no judgment here, to each his own*.It's not just Bangkok, but see a huge uptick in the US as well. Many agencies now advertising and with the upcharge the girls are cashing in. One spa I'm a regular and the one girl I know is now offering and when I asked what changed her mind she said guys seem to be giving the business to the BBFS girls and not her as much and she needs the business.
Also with the advent of Prep, pharmaceutical cocktails if you do contract hiv, now a cure for HepC and the latest they are saying a heavy dose of doxycycline the morning after can help prevent other STD's.
It's weird how from time to time someone here would say they miss this and that about Thailand, and how it used to be, such and such place was awesome, but now it's gone, etc. It's interesting in the sense that when you think about*it, it's always brought up by someone, every year, all the time, for years, giving the impression that the best of a mongering destination is always in the past, never in the present. I do that too sometimes, especially with my experiences in Prague, but I'd venture to say someone new to Prague now, if they have a positive experience would say it's the best place ever, etc. And when said person goes back 5 years from now, might not find it the 'same', hence to said person, feels like it's kinda downhill. In the same way that for someone who experienced Prague in the 90's or early 2000's would be disappointed by it if they went the same time I did back in the early 2010's. Yet for me it was mind blowing. For me though, the last few trips to Bangkok I've had, spread across 30 years, the experiences got better with*each trip. But for me it's because I changed my gameplan for each trip. Yes, there might be a place or two I miss about Bangkok as well, but compared to many hobbying destinations around the world, I'd dare say Bangkok always surprises me with the new places that pop up, as opposed to many european destinations where most establishments are closing shop. The only thing that everyone has right about the past, is yes, it was absolutely cheaper and way more affordable then, even with inflation factored in. There's no way around that, everything is just pricey these days. Kinda ridiculously so. I'm old now, and I feel for younger people, the world they are inheriting. We really fucked shit up for them. But who cares right? We'll be dead soon anyway, not our problem anymore. *.
All that being said, and with how argumentative folks then to be here, I still appreciate the info that comes out, though I'm not hobbying now, whenever I do, I try to give back with info in return. That's why when I stroll over to other parts of the forum, like in the Manila pages, it's always a bit disheartening to look through dozens of pages and hardly a single salient bit of info is imparted by anyone. It's just weirdly a lot of inane stuff. Why are we here gentlemen? Sure, a lot of trolling, and insulting each other is par for the course, everyone is brave when anonymity is the name of the game, but it's to provide info, feedback and maybe, just maybe even a little bit of moral support. It's weird how tough it is to find good, reliable, up to date information on the Manila scene. Call me boring, but that's why I stick to tried and true places like Prague, Bangkok, Singapore, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, etc. But finances being what they are these days, it's got to be Thailand from now on. *.
Thanks to someone on another forum, I've discovered the quality talent of BKK Happy massage have not disappeared, they've moved on to another spot. I wish I discovered that sooner, not that I can go anytime soon, but by God, it's making me really want to get on a plane so I can experience Noey and Haru again. Haru goes by a different name at the new place, but Noey is still Noey and her popularity shows, she's only available for outcalls at that place. I like to think I had a little something to do with that as I had reported on how awesome she is on multiple forums. I'm not a greedy fella, we should all share and talent like her doesn't stay secret for long. It's not like we're going to put a ring on it. All that being said though, I still prefer girls who'll let me CIM. On my last trip to Bangkok, I found 3 who would with me consistently. *.
Also, do you fellas notice that there's been an uptick on bareback availability in some of the places in Bangkok? Advertised as such on their websites too. I don't want to get into a debate on the merits and pitfalls of it all, to each his own, I'm just saying I'm noticing it. Anybody else notice it? I've been offered bareback from escorts and girls from time to time in my trips to Bangkok as well, I'm sure everyone has, but that it's being mentioned on websites of some massage places, that's kinda unusual. I would kinda expect it in some Austrian laufhauses, they say as much, but on the websites of some massage places in Bangkok. That seems to be new. There's one relatively new joint that says as much on their website, those of you in the know, know. I won't lie to ya fellas, in the heat of the moment, I've been tempted. I suppose it's more prevalent these days with prep and all that, but still. I don't know. Then again, I'm old, so what the hell right? Again, no judgment here, to each his own. *.
Stay safe, and happy fucking out there. And to all the fellas that got to retire in South East Asia, I wish I can do it too. Don't complain too much ok? You're in paradise and most guys would kill to have even a moment of what you've got. *.https://www.happy-bkk.com/booking%ef%bc%86rates/
MachchiBaba
08-14-23, 02:07
Be handsome, rich, and Western.Thanks for the suggestions but you do realize that these are all attributes someone possesses inherently not necessarily controllable (That said, I believe it is the presentation, confidence and the way you channel a conversation is what really matters. How to identify a target in a Mall is what I guess is the point of my question. Let's assume the person in question looks enough rich, western etc. Thanks again for the suggestions.
MachchiBaba
08-14-23, 02:21
I'm no expert, but I think the secret is to just to it. In the beginning you might get shot down 99 out of a hundred times when you approach a girl, but if you keep doing it, like with
swimming, you will become better.
A few days ago I was hanging out outside what is still a nice Thai restaurant in Terminal 21, but I guess they got on tripadvisor or something, so now there's always a wait to get in and it's full of chinese and farang riff-raff.
So I'm just hanging out outside by the escalators, waiting for my queue number to come up and checking something on my phone. Next to me is a rather tall, fine, unusually well dressed asian chick. Around 27-28 years old I guess, playing on her phone. I'm 20 years older, like to think myself handsome, but I know the real truth. ;-) Still, I do like exercise and that has a positive effect, mentally also, that I will recommend anyone.
me: hey. *smile*
she: <looks up> hey.
me: you don't look very Thai. *laughs*
she: no, I'm not. *smiles a bit*
me: can I guess? Japan?
she: no, I'm from Taiwan.
me: ah, how do you like Thailand?
she: it's nice. I like it.
me: me too. Are you staying here for a long time?
she: no, just two days. I'm leaving tomorrow.
me: Oh, that's really short. Why so short?
she: I work for an airline, so I'm just <whatever, I don't remember>. What about you? You've been here a long time?Thanks for sharing your experience, this is really helpful! I personally envy all those people who are able to live there for month (s) at a stretch, you guys are all my hero and frankly my inspiration May be someday after I retire, I can do that also, buy a condo etc. But by then I will cross 60 . Yikes!
My whole point is that hunting at a Mall is time consuming like really seriously time consuming. People like me, who stay there for at the most a week or slightly more have to have a winning probability of 80% or higher or else the time is not well spent or I other words as they say Opportunity cost is much high. LOL.
That said, I think I am going to try next time to initiate a conversation and probably have some time aside, if it works great if not move in with other plans.
....
Also, do you fellas notice that there's been an uptick on bareback availability in some of the places in Bangkok? Advertised as such on their websites too. I don't want to get into a debate on the merits and pitfalls of it all, to each his own, I'm just saying I'm noticing it. Anybody else notice it? I've been offered bareback from escorts and girls from time to time in my trips to Bangkok as well, I'm sure everyone has, but that it's being mentioned on websites of some massage places, that's kinda unusual. I would kinda expect it in some Austrian laufhauses, they say as much, but on the websites of some massage places in Bangkok. That seems to be new. There's one relatively new joint that says as much on their website, those of you in the know, know.
...No, I haven't noticed Bareback as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP being advertised right on a P4 P service venue's website. That would be a major breakthrough and advancement in advertised offerings in the Thai P4 P market. Right up there with legalized cannabis shops popping up on every soi in the weed market.
I have only seen one escort service brave and into satisfying the market customer's desires enough to include CUM SWALLOWING in the Extra Services offerings as chosen by the escorts willing to offer it:
www.bangkokescortservice.com
Tap on the providers' profiles and you will occasionally find that service provided by some of the girls under "My Extra Services".
Now that I have shared that site and info, do you care to share the sites and info where you see Bareback advertised as a service available? Contrary to how it might be when a provider discreetly offers it to you privately, you would be doing a venue a favor by spreading the word here. Obviously, they wouldn't advertise it online if they wanted it to be kept secret.
Chan Chalupa
08-14-23, 03:42
Free Hot Girls.
1. Observe a Girl of your fancy shopping for a GUCCI bag, say $500.
You casually swoop in and offer to buy it for her. You in BRO.
FREE. Hahaha. Worked for my 80 old Buddy.
Thanks to someone on another forum, I've discovered the quality talent of BKK Happy massage have not disappeared, they've moved on to another spot. I wish I discovered that sooner, not that I can go anytime soon, but by God, it's making me really want to get on a plane so I can experience Noey and Haru again.
What place is that?
All that being said though, I still prefer girls who'll let me CIM. On my last trip to Bangkok, I found 3 who would with me consistently. *.
Also, do you fellas notice that there's been an uptick on bareback availability in some of the places in Bangkok? Advertised as such on their websites too. I don't want to get into a debate on the merits and pitfalls of it all, to each his own, I'm just saying I'm noticing it. Anybody else notice it? I've been offered bareback from escorts and girls from time to time in my trips to Bangkok as well, I'm sure everyone has, but that it's being mentioned on websites of some massage places, that's kinda unusual. I would kinda expect it in some Austrian laufhauses, they say as much, but on the websites of some massage places in Bangkok. That seems to be new. There's one relatively new joint that says as much on their website, those of you in the know, know. I won't lie to ya fellas, in the heat of the moment, I've been tempted. I suppose it's more prevalent these days with prep and all that, but still. I don't know. Then again, I'm old, so what the hell right? Again, no judgment here, to each his own. *.
Many of the fiwfans girl will do CIM for a upcharge spelled out on their profile (400 baht seems to be the standard extra cost), so as long as you're willing to pay that I think you'll get it.
There are also some "agencies" who seem to kind of specialise in girls who do BB FS. Sometimes tempting, and this year I've relaxed my stance on that a lot as far as regular (non-p4p) girls are concerned, but I'm not there yet with p4p girls.
What place is that?
A quick search online led me to find it here: https://smilebangkak.com/.
You can see several of the ladies formerly of HappyBKK on the site.
Does anyone know where Jasmine from HappyBKK is now? She was amazing to me and I actually preferred her over Noey.
A month ago or so there was a question about Alice, who is now listed on Smile's website. I wanted to let the poster know they were wise to avoid her. Her pictures look amazing, and to be fair she does look great at first in person. But she has the biggest unkempt Bush I've witnessed in Thailand, and there is some of the dreaded fish smell from her. She is also inseparable from her phone, even in bed.
It's weird how from time to time someone here would say they miss this and that about Thailand, and how it used to be, such and such place was awesome, but now it's gone, etc. It's interesting in the sense that when you think about*it, it's always brought up by someone, every year, all the time, for years, giving the impression that the best of a mongering destination is always in the past, never in the present. I do that too sometimes, especially with my experiences in Prague, but I'd venture to say someone new to Prague now, if they have a positive experience would say it's the best place ever, etc. And when said person goes back 5 years from now, might not find it the 'same', hence to said person, feels like it's kinda downhill. In the same way that for someone who experienced Prague in the 90's or early 2000's would be disappointed by it if they went the same time I did back in the early 2010's. Yet for me it was mind blowing. .."Stay safe, and happy fucking out there. And to all the fellas that got to retire in South East Asia, I wish I can do it too. Don't complain too much ok? You're in paradise and most guys would kill to have even a moment of what you've got."
It must be quite the life for guys who can live in SEA and / or retire there. I could only imagine what it would be like to live in Thailand in my 20's and play the dating and monger game. It's been about ten months now since I was in Thailand and I miss it dearly. Ten months of blue balls. I plan to return in a few weeks and can't wait. The fact that upon landing, within two hours, one can be shooting a pent up load in a ladies mouth for around $25 is sometimes hard to believe even for someone like me who has been to Thailand three times prior.
No, I haven't noticed Bareback as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP being advertised right on a P4 P service venue's website. That would be a major breakthrough and advancement in advertised offerings in the Thai P4 P market. Right up there with legalized cannabis shops popping up on every soi in the weed market.
I have only seen one escort service brave and into satisfying the market customer's desires enough to include CUM SWALLOWING in the Extra Services offerings as chosen by the escorts willing to offer it:
www.bangkokescortservice.com
Tap on the providers' profiles and you will occasionally find that service provided by some of the girls under "My Extra Services".
Now that I have shared that site and info, do you care to share the sites and info where you see Bareback advertised as a service available? Contrary to how it might be when a provider discreetly offers it to you privately, you would be doing a venue a favor by spreading the word here. Obviously, they wouldn't advertise it online if they wanted it to be kept secret.I mentioned one escort service where Cum Swallowing occasionsally shows up on a girl"s profile as an available extra service. Then I was reminded of another one:
https://www.bkkescortservice.com/
IMO, that one handles the available services best; they simply include Cum Swallowing on the list of possible services available in the "by extra services" provider search drop down menu and leave it entirely up to each girl to either check that option to add to her list of provided services or not. Same as Cum On Face, DATY, Ass Rimming, whatever. And that makes at least two escort services that openly advertise that particular service on their website if the girl chooses to openly offer it.
However, I have not yet seen any Thai P4 P venue openly advertise the availability of Bareback Sex, as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP, as Newton York mentioned. Has anyone else?
I would be very impressed to find some that do because that would be a Game Changing Evolutionary Advancement in the Thai P4 P scene similar to the sudden appearance of that giant black monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey. LOL.
Cue the low, opening strains of "Thus Sprach Zarathustra"!
Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?
Ok just a general question- if you have done Thailand and Phillippines to death what country / city come next for value mongering in SEA? PhnonnPenn / Siem Reep / Shinookville Cambodia? Jakarta? Bali what about Batam? HCM & Nha Trang, the Nang etc? Worth looking at Laos or Burma? Just a quick reply and why please or why not.
Though putting the q here would get most coverage of experienced SEA punters.
Apologies if wrong place.
Ok just a general question- if you have done Thailand and Phillippines to death what country / city come next for value mongering in SEA? PhnonnPenn / Siem Reep / Shinookville Cambodia? Jakarta? Bali what about Batam? HCM & Nha Trang, the Nang etc? Worth looking at Laos or Burma? Just a quick reply and why please or why not.
Though putting the q here would get most coverage of experienced SEA punters.
Apologies if wrong place.Hi I'm here in Siem Reap, if you don't actually live here, forget it. Bar Girls: Fuglies. Worn. Hotties out at the KTVs $50-100, inexperienced with Westerners.
A quick search online led me to find it here: https://smilebangkak.com/.
You can see several of the ladies formerly of HappyBKK on the site.
Does anyone know where Jasmine from HappyBKK is now? She was amazing to me and I actually preferred her over Noey.
A month ago or so there was a question about Alice, who is now listed on Smile's website. I wanted to let the poster know they were wise to avoid her. Her pictures look amazing, and to be fair she does look great at first in person. But she has the biggest unkempt Bush I've witnessed in Thailand, and there is some of the dreaded fish smell from her. She is also inseparable from her phone, even in bed.The girls are here today and gone tomorrow and if they are here they have a different name. This constant "where is she" serves no purpose, and if a chcik has a hairy Bush and a sinky, ask for a new one or throw her out.
Ok just a general question- if you have done Thailand and Phillippines to death what country / city come next for value mongering in SEA? PhnonnPenn / Siem Reep / Shinookville Cambodia? Jakarta? Bali what about Batam? HCM & Nha Trang, the Nang etc? Worth looking at Laos or Burma? Just a quick reply and why please or why not.
Though putting the q here would get most coverage of experienced SEA punters.
Apologies if wrong place.Jakarta. No contest there.
Ok just a general question- if you have done Thailand and Phillippines to death what country / city come next for value mongering in SEA? PhnonnPenn / Siem Reep / Shinookville Cambodia? Jakarta? Bali what about Batam? HCM & Nha Trang, the Nang etc? Worth looking at Laos or Burma? Just a quick reply and why please or why not.
Though putting the q here would get most coverage of experienced SEA punters.
Apologies if wrong place.Hiyo New Image. I been to Thai many times especially Pattaya and I live in PI. Been a few times to Phnom Penh, Siem Reap, Jakarta, Bali, HCM many times and Nha Trang. Out of these my choice for good bang for your buck (after PI and TH especially Pattaya) is Jakarta. But then again I have a big boob fetish and the Indonesians are more amply endowed on top than most other countries in SEA. Outside SEA my top choice is the Dominican Republic aka Land of the Big Boobs. Been there 16 X in the last 16 years. A lot of guys swear to Rio and Sao Paulo but I haven't found cheap flights there. Of course one can have a good time in any country with a little effort, cash and luck. Cheers.
What place is that?
However, I have not yet seen any Thai P4 P venue openly advertise the availability of Bareback Sex, as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP, as Newton York mentioned. Has anyone else?
I would be very impressed to find some that do because that would be a Game Changing Evolutionary Advancement in the Thai P4 P scene similar to the sudden appearance of that giant black monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey. LOL.
Cue the low, opening strains of "Thus Sprach Zarathustra"!Have a look at the description for Haru under "Girls Working Today" here https://smilebangkak.com/girls/.
It says "Can do no condom+special".
My whole point is that hunting at a Mall is time consuming like really seriously time consuming. People like me, who stay there for at the most a week or slightly more have to have a winning probability of 80% or higher or else the time is not well spent or I other words as they say Opportunity cost is much high. LOL.
That said, I think I am going to try next time to initiate a conversation and probably have some time aside, if it works great if not move in with other plans.No doubt it's time consuming. But there is no need to wait till you're back in Thailand before doing that, so unless you're living in a muslim country (if I remember correctly, you live in the USA, no?) it's much better to start practicing wherever you are now, though granted, ratio of success is much lower for me in the west now (the girls I like now are the same girls I liked when I was twenty, but I'm not twenty anymore, and age difference is still a much less important thing here in Thailand than in the west).
I'm a big fan of something called the three second rule myself (google: three second rule pick up). This is without doubt one of those things us regular, perhaps more or less introverted, guys just have to force ourselves to do if we want to have any chance of improving.
Guys,
Any MP / agents has Chinese / Japanese birds in Bangkok / Pattaya?
I mentioned one escort service where Cum Swallowing occasionsally shows up on a girl"s profile as an available extra service. Then I was reminded of another one:
https://www.bkkescortservice.com/
IMO, that one handles the available services best; they simply include Cum Swallowing on the list of possible services available in the "by extra services" provider search drop down menu and leave it entirely up to each girl to either check that option to add to her list of provided services or not. Same as Cum On Face, DATY, Ass Rimming, whatever. And that makes at least two escort services that openly advertise that particular service on their website if the girl chooses to openly offer it.
However, I have not yet seen any Thai P4 P venue openly advertise the availability of Bareback Sex, as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP, as Newton York mentioned. Has anyone else?
I would be very impressed to find some that do because that would be a Game Changing Evolutionary Advancement in the Thai P4 P scene similar to the sudden appearance of that giant black monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey. LOL.
Cue the low, opening strains of "Thus Sprach Zarathustra"!I have seen few on FiWfans https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raedsfldwi9cix.
A month ago or so there was a question about Alice, who is now listed on Smile's website. I wanted to let the poster know they were wise to avoid her. Her pictures look amazing, and to be fair she does look great at first in person. But she has the biggest unkempt Bush I've witnessed in Thailand, and there is some of the dreaded fish smell from her. She is also inseparable from her phone, even in bed.You have inadvertently given me a recommendation. I am always on the lookout for big Bush girls (my particular fetish). The phone usage and possible fishiness are a worry though.
BTW if anyone is looking for a small bar with a chilled vibe and 70's to 80's music that doesn't blow up your eardrums, try Sexy Night in Nana Plaza. A good place for a bit of a mood change from the full on-ness of Billboard.
Kedawibanit
08-15-23, 08:15
These people sell their body for money. Consider their financial situation and other conditions. Do you think they have time, money and patience to get these things done? Also many of them does this work without their family knowing it. So, I am sure most of them won't get tested.
Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?
NicFrenchy
08-15-23, 08:27
Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?Shop requires them to, but as everything in Thailand, many girls purchase the result without doing the tests.
Kadaklaunda
08-15-23, 12:09
Disclaimer: This post doesn't mean to offend anyone of caste, creed, colour or religion. It is based on my personal experience and observations as an Indian tourist mongering in Bangkok. Sent from phone: please excuse, brevity and any typos.
So I have been long wanting to travel to Bangkok from India for obvious reasons and made full use of this forum to find best massage parlours, go-go bars and of course the most suited accommodation. I am returning today as I type this post and here's what I learnt that maybe more relevant and useful for fellow Indians and Bangladeshis whom I saw in good numbers.
My Stay: After doing a thorough research I booked my stay in Ruamchitt Plaza hotel which is close to Asoke (Soi Cowboy) and Nana Plaza famous for bars like Spankey's where girls dance topless showing attractive breasts. Positives of Ruamchitt was that the hotel was clean and I only paid 5000 baht for 4 nights including breakfast. Of course the famous Thermae bar is sitting right at the bottom of the hotel. To add, hotel is close to Terminal 21 if one needs to shop and to many eateries where one can find all kinds of food including Indian options. There is a currency exchange counter right at the entrance of the hotel offering best exchange rate on dollar (35.13 baht) when I left.
Day 1: I reach the hotel by 6.30 in the evening though my Indigo flight landed Suvarnabhumi around 4. 30 pm. I had applied for E-Visa on Arrival so that was time saving. I had made bookings for KK at Wonder Massage when my flight was taking off from India. Earlier, I also tried to book Pam from Doki Doki, Kitty from Bunny Massage and Alice from Momo massage but heard from their managers that these girls were away. Coordination and booking with Wonder Massage happened over line app and it was a breeze.
So finally, there I am at Wonder Massage (8 minutes walk from my hotel) and I greet KK who is dark and attractive with amazing natural figure and big curvy boobs with perfect pointy nipples (kind I like). I booked Nuru Massage for 3000 baht for 60 minutes but the Jacuzzi was not worth it. The boob rub on the back felt nice but I should have taken a standard room just to enjoy this girl and that would have saved 500-700 baht for me. Sex was amazing because I was instantly attracted to her and I kind of eased her into a conversation as suggested by a fellow monger which opened the communication doors for us. She speaks broken English but it's much better than many Thai girls and she can be very chatty once you start asking her questions. But make sure to strike the right balance because she herself said she is a lazy person and at times she would stop massaging and only chitchat. Her massage wasn't great but f**ing her was. So that should be your sole aim.
After a long journey and having a good time I thought I will crash but I was amazed with my own stamina and will to explore so next I walked to Nana Plaza. I had heard about the girls dancing topless in Spankey's so I only entered there though there were options like Billboard and Butterfly. Got a drink for 200 baht and liked one of the dancing girls. So asked the waitress to call her and sit in the last row corner seat. Spankey's is a small bar and the there's lot of action happening on the dance floor. Most men sit in the front to watch girls up close but when you buy a drink for a girl and sit in corner seat of back row that's when you can feel the girl and enjoy the moment- both on the floor and in the lap or next to you. Luckily, my girl was tired after dancing, and she took this as break. She took 30 minutes to finish her drink so even though the waitress wasn't happy I kept pushing her back saying the drink is still not finished. The girl probably thought I will barfine but I had no intentions of spending 4000 baht on that. So, after having a great time with her I left Spankey's after 50 minutes. Yes folks! In just 400 baht I had the privilege to enjoy the naked dance and the girl which was totally worth it.
Bangkok is extremely humid and sultry, so I thought I am done for the day! Oh, but wait! When I reached my hotel, I was extremely curious to check out the Thermae bar. It was already 11.30 pm by then. I picked up a lady, but I will talk about it in details later.
Day 2: I was curious to know about sandwich nuru massage and I booked Nana and Wawa at Ola Ola massage at 10.30 am. It was 10 minutes walk from my hotel. My first preference were Patty and Whisky but both were away hence Nana and Wawa. I chose a 90 minutes nuru massage package which was a big home (6000 baht for 4 shots) in my pocket. I negotiated but there were no discounts and I was only offered Jacuzzi as extra complimentary which otherwise was priced 500 baht extra. Very clever! Anyways Nana was young and had a great body and boobs. Wawa looked much older than the photograph that was shown but they tried their best to please me. Again the boobs felt nice on my back and they had a nuru mat and then a Jacuzzi. I enjoyed the whole experience but it was nothing close to one watches in porn. So best is to avoid it and save money! The two girls tried talking to me and were not chitchatting between themselves which was my fear. I had sex with both of them for which I had to change condoms. First with Wawa but she was slightly old and had put on weight. So preferred to have sex with Nana and cum. The session ended with 2nd shot being a handjob from Wawa as Nana licked my ears and I played with her nipples.
After the morning experience I slept for some time, went to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy and got a drink. But these places are very different from Nana and I walked out after 20 minutes as girls were only interested in Japanese and Korean men.
At night, went to Thermar again and picked up a girl. Details later.
Day 3: Was bored of usual stuff so went to Analisa massage in the afternoon. Booked Luna for a 60 minutes of Tantric massage which was a mix of sensual massage, massaging my balls and dick, prostate massage and BJ and HJ. It costed my 2100 baht. Luna was extremely proficient in her communication and spoke good English. She didn't indugle I'm any conversation from her side though but patiently answered all my questions- a trick that I usually use to be friendly with girls. She's been with the establishment for 5 years and is extremely good with the massage. I paid for that I enjoyed it to the max. But Prostate Massage where she puts a finger inside your butthole and strokes your dick with another hand is not my kind of thing. Better to avoid it! But after 60 minutes of stroking my dick and balls, BJ (only with condom atleast in this place) and finally HJ l, I came like how! Great experience!
Day 1,2,3- Decoding Thermae Bar.
Ok, so here are some observations and tips not limited to Thermae but overall 'boom boom' scene in Bangkok.
1) Indians and Bangladeshis and others of darker skin colour are not preferred by Thai girls / ladies. In short, we are not their first choice. The reason I felt is because the way Indian bald uncle's with their round tummies, bermudas and chappals walk in and treat the girls is not appreciated. The young Indian muscular dudes with their beards and buffed up bodies could be desirable in India but the girls here call us 'King-Kong' and reject us outright.
2) What do I do- Dress properly (decent Hawaiians shirts, nice pair of trousers+ shoes and blend in, keep a clean shave and always keep my smile on and hands folded to greet them whenever I pass them or look at them.
2) Thermae Bar has 4 categories of girls- 'A+' category which comes in the bar at 7. 30-8 pm and disappears in no time. 'A' type girls who are eventually taken by mostly Japanese, Koreans and finally Westeners and they are confident that they will find takers. Now the 'be' type girls is what I am interested in. They could be slightly old (age group of 30-35), decent looking but certainly not bombshells or are desperate for money because they just need it. So the trick is to reach Thermae around 11.30 pm, buy a drink (I usually take Pineapple juice for 80 baht) and then take a round to find your prey- The 'be' type girls and then take a convinent spot and wait till 12 to see what happens. The bar shuts at 1 am and all the leftover girls at that time are now in a hurry to find customers and make their effort productive. That's when you start polite conversation by asking their name. Tell them you are here for these many number of days and are staying upstairs in the same hotel (4 nights in my case). The going rate for all girls is 3000 baht at the moment but when you mention that you sare staying in the same hotel they quote 2500 baht. Here's when I tell them I can only offer 1500 baht for short time (one shot and 40 minutes). I have managed to get three different girls on 3 nights so far.
First lady- Miss Lucky who was 35 years old and slightly plump was quite fun. She did a booty dance for me, we bathed together, I went down on her and sex was good in different positions.
Second girl was average looking and young and felt like she needed money. She approached me and we cut the same deal. I went down on her, she came and sex was decent.
Third lady Miss Pia was about 32 years, very fair and great body. She went down on me and we actually came together while having sex. No kidding! The orgasm looked real unless she is super good at faking it. Same deal.
With all the above three girls / ladies, I offered them water, toffees and chocolates that I had and also gave them extra Japanese condoms- Okamoto that I got from India and are not that expensive. But all these things made them happy and receptive.
So in conclusion, Thai girls are drawn to Japanese and Koreans (from all age groups but more to young guys whom I saw in plenty) at Thermae. They are comfortable with them maybe for their fair colour and looks, trendy styles, better manners and the fact that they don't haggle (which in my view is stupid and is making the girls greedy). There were instances when I approached an 'A' category despite them showing no interest in me (as in refusing to look in my eye for more than few seconds, or smile or they would simply look away) but when they would refuse any offer below 3000 baht that's an indication for you that they are just not interested. And I think that's fair and no offence taken!
Sorry the post is longish but hope you find it useful!
...However, I have not yet seen any Thai P4 P venue openly advertise the availability of Bareback Sex, as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP, as Newton York mentioned. Has anyone else?
I would be very impressed to find some that do because that would be a Game Changing Evolutionary Advancement in the Thai P4 P scene similar to the sudden appearance of that giant black monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey. LOL.
Cue the low, opening strains of "Thus Sprach Zarathustra"!https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/bow-r-page-e.html
Kadaklaunda
08-15-23, 16:16
Forgot to mention that I also tried Ivy from Pretty Massage Thonglor. Paid 2500 baht for 90 minutes session. She did a lot of talking and once we had sex and once she gave me a handjob. Rooms were not up to the mark and there were mosquitoes inside. Girl was pretty, service was good and she tried but wrapped in in about 75 minutes. I also feared for getting dengi from the mosquito bite and left. Overall it was an ok experience.
Have a look at the description for Haru under "Girls Working Today" here https://smilebangkak.com/girls/.
It says "Can do no condom+special".
I have seen few on FiWfans https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raedsfldwi9cix.
https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/bow-r-page-e.htmlTrue or not at crunch time, at least it is a refreshing improvement on the Thai P4P scene to date!
Thanks much.
Kadaklaunda
08-15-23, 20:30
Flight got delayed and postponed due to a massive typhoon approaching from Japan side. Since I got the message in time got a golden opportunity to enjoy Bangkok for some more time. This time I was very focused and wanted to do an African girl. Just to strike it off my wishlist. Saw many at Soi Cowboy (group of 5) and then many more (atleast 15) near Nana Plaza in small groups of 4-5. None were attractive or close to decent but then found one named 'Jamira'. She was bigger than most petitte girls and had a great skin texture and shiny face. Even African girls / ladies show no interest in Indians could be because they look down upon us or maybe they also had bad experience due to Indian bald uncle's. Anyways, I found her standing in one corner and spoke to her. She agreed for 1000 baht and room charges which was additional 250 baht. I went down on her for 30 minutes and she kept requesting me to continue as she was surprisingly always there. After doing all the efforts she finally came and then let me fuck her. It was ok but worth the money I paid and the fantasy I had to bang an African chick.
Since I had some more time in hand I went to Spankey's again but this time it wasn't a good experience. There was a lady named 'don't' who was a phenomenal dancer, had a great body and curvy boobs. Before me an American bought her a drink and she danced in his lap and let him feel her for 15 minutes. I don't why but the American eventually left and the crowd was thinning out. So I called her and ordered a drink for her. She must have sat with me for 2 minutes but the next two items were her's so she had to rush to change clothes. I was vocal about this to the waitress and Mamasan but they kept saying she will be back soon. But then I realised that she is also doing the 'bathing act' and the waitress kept pushing me to buy more drink which I didn't want to. I told them it was absolutely unfair but the Mamasan only said sorry to me. Some win's and some looses is what I thought at that moment and paid the full bill and left. As I was leaving 'don't' was looking pretty disappointed and was trying to continue with that soapy act. I pointed at waitress indicating she is asking me to leave and bid her bye with folded hands.
Until next time. Ciao!
Day 1,2,3- Decoding Thermae Bar.
Ok, so here are some observations and tips not limited to Thermae but overall 'boom boom' scene in Bangkok.
1) Indians and Bangladeshis and others of darker skin colour are not preferred by Thai girls / ladies. In short, we are not their first choice. The reason I felt is because the way Indian bald uncle's with their round tummies, bermudas and chappals walk in and treat the girls is not appreciated. The young Indian muscular dudes with their beards and buffed up bodies could be desirable in India but the girls here call us 'King-Kong' and reject us outright.
2) What do I do- Dress properly (decent Hawaiians shirts, nice pair of trousers+ shoes and blend in, keep a clean shave and always keep my smile on and hands folded to greet them whenever I pass them or look at them.
2) Thermae Bar has 4 categories of girls- 'A+' category which comes in the bar at 7. 30-8 pm and disappears in no time. 'A' type girls who are eventually taken by mostly Japanese, Koreans and finally Westeners and they are confident that they will find takers. Now the 'be' type girls is what I am interested in. They could be slightly old (age group of 30-35), decent looking but certainly not bombshells or are desperate for money because they just need it. So the trick is to reach Thermae around 11.30 pm, buy a drink (I usually take Pineapple juice for 80 baht) and then take a round to find your prey- The 'be' type girls and then take a convinent spot and wait till 12 to see what happens. The bar shuts at 1 am and all the leftover girls at that time are now in a hurry to find customers and make their effort productive. That's when you start polite conversation by asking their name. Tell them you are here for these many number of days and are staying upstairs in the same hotel (4 nights in my case). The going rate for all girls is 3000 baht at the moment but when you mention that you sare staying in the same hotel they quote 2500 baht. Here's when I tell them I can only offer 1500 baht for short time (one shot and 40 minutes). I have managed to get three different girls on 3 nights so far.
First lady- Miss Lucky who was 35 years old and slightly plump was quite fun. She did a booty dance for me, we bathed together, I went down on her and sex was good in different positions.
Second girl was average looking and young and felt like she needed money. She approached me and we cut the same deal. I went down on her, she came and sex was decent.
Third lady Miss Pia was about 32 years, very fair and great body. She went down on me and we actually came together while having sex. No kidding! The orgasm looked real unless she is super good at faking it. Same deal.
With all the above three girls / ladies, I offered them water, toffees and chocolates that I had and also gave them extra Japanese condoms- Okamoto that I got from India and are not that expensive. But all these things made them happy and receptive.
So in conclusion, Thai girls are drawn to Japanese and Koreans (from all age groups but more to young guys whom I saw in plenty) at Thermae. They are comfortable with them maybe for their fair colour and looks, trendy styles, better manners and the fact that they don't haggle (which in my view is stupid and is making the girls greedy). There were instances when I approached an 'A' category despite them showing no interest in me (as in refusing to look in my eye for more than few seconds, or smile or they would simply look away) but when they would refuse any offer below 3000 baht that's an indication for you that they are just not interested. And I think that's fair and no offence taken!
Sorry the post is longish but hope you find it useful!Very interesting report and perspective from South Asian bros. I like that you included the exact amount you spent and I like to do the same. However IMO the fact you push for such steep discount is one of the reasons why South Asians are "looked down" on by the girls and potentially other guys at the establishments. 3000 b is a normal price to be quoted in thermae and girls refusing to go below this amount isn't an indication they're not interested, but it's just their price. They would likely have the same requirements for white or east Asians too. But it seems you were quite happy with the selection of girls you had in thermae so well done and glad you had a good time!
Banana Boi
08-16-23, 04:38
I called her and ordered a drink for her. She must have sat with me for 2 minutes but the next two items were her's so she had to rush to change clothes. I was vocal about this to the waitress and Mamasan but they kept saying she will be back soon. Always good to learn the ins and outs of each gogo bar when you go. They're not always the same. Some gogo brs let the girls come off stage right away if you order them a drink, some allow the girls to come down on 2nd song. Some bars don't allow the girls off at all so if you see a girl on stage you like you may have to wait 15 minutes til she actually sits with you. This is complicated further by whether the girl you bought a drink for is a money maker for the bar. Girls who get lots of drinks will be allowed down immediately.
In your case, if you expect 15 minutes with the girl, clarify that with the girl before you buy her a drink and make sure she isn't on stage soon. Also clarify if you need her to DFK, lap dance, mutual groping, etc for that drink.
Sorry mate, I tend to disagree with you on the Thermae view point or Thai Chicks behaviour towards people of a particular country. This is my 3rd trip in 9 months, twice for work and once for total pleasure. So, I know what I am talking about with being on the ground and experiencing it myself. Firstly, allow me to share that it is the brown skinned people that they are wary off as some of them are but not all, not particularly Indians. I have been coming to Thailand since more than 12 years and never ever faced any kind of racisms during all my pleasure and business trips. Allow me to clarify that I am right now in Bangkok typing this report and I am an proud Indian. Yes, I have twice gone to Thermae Bar on 13th and 15th August night. Never did I felt discriminated or ignored or not preferred or given a cold treatment by chicks or they did not wish to go. I am not challenging your view point or your financial strategy of countering a chick with a 50% discount on her ask, its your wallet and decision. That is one reason if I may be allowed to pin point one reason for those chicks to respectful say no to a guys as they hold a viewpoint as the next brown skin man will offer her the same. These chicks have seen it all and understand it better than men.
My report of my 3 night Bangkok trip will be uploaded in a day or two as I am leaving for Pattaya for 7 nights where no business and all pleasure awaits me. Bangkok it was vice versa.
And yes, my report will be long enough. All brown skin people reading my report do not get discouraged and visit Thailand. It is a beautiful country with smiling people and follow the basic atticates and manners that are expected of any tourist be it of any country. That is the norm for all of us in our daily lives, isn't it guys?
All of these are my personal viewpoints.
Regards.
Disclaimer: This post doesn't mean to offend anyone of caste, creed, colour or religion. It is based on my personal experience and observations as an Indian tourist mongering in Bangkok. Sent from phone: please excuse, brevity and any typos.
So I have been long wanting to travel to Bangkok from India for obvious reasons and made full use of this forum to find best massage parlours, go-go bars and of course the most suited accommodation. I am returning today as I type this post and here's what I learnt that maybe more relevant and useful for fellow Indians and Bangladeshis whom I saw in good numbers.
Chan Chalupa
08-16-23, 05:25
Very interesting report and perspective from South Asian bros. I like that you included the exact amount you spent and I like to do the same. However IMO the fact you push for such steep discount is one of the reasons why South Asians are "looked down" on by the girls and potentially other guys at the establishments. 3000 b is a normal price to be quoted in thermae and girls refusing to go below this amount isn't an indication they're not interested, but it's just their price. They would likely have the same requirements for white or east Asians too. But it seems you were quite happy with the selection of girls you had in thermae so well done and glad you had a good time!Pointing out the not so obvious.
This 1,500 price isn't negotiating per SE. Highly likely they are not that desirable.
The only customers they get come in at Closing and don't give a BLEELP about how they Look. For them they get to tell Thier Billion East Asian pals they got a 50 % discount.
True or not at crunch time, at least it is a refreshing improvement on the Thai P4P scene to date!
Thanks much.With a 2 k extra charge.
ThaiGoodTimes
08-16-23, 08:03
Have a look at the description for Haru under "Girls Working Today" here https://smilebangkak.com/girls/.
It says "Can do no condom+special".And Nami's profile page there says "Release semen into the body".
What the?
https://smilebangkak.com/nami/
While Haru's profile page doesn't repeat the mention of no condom, just "Extreme Sex".
https://smilebangkak.com/haru/
The girls are here today and gone tomorrow and if they are here they have a different name. This constant "where is she" serves no purpose.Just wanted to say that there is an ample (if minor) history of such inquiries yielding relevant information, so I thought it was worth posting, albeit without any expectations. Indeed, the very discussion I was responding to pertained to girls who had moved from that very MP to another. In my view, more information (and potentially futile requests for such) is better than none.
Cheers.
And Nami's profile page there says "Release semen into the body".
What the?
https://smilebangkak.com/nami/
While Haru's profile page doesn't repeat the mention of no condom, just "Extreme Sex".
https://smilebangkak.com/haru/Next thing you know some of the girls will be referring to it as "Real Sex. " In which case I am happy to offer a humble "You're welcome, gentlemen. " LOL.
Actually, the strange way it is mentioned on some girls' profiles is one of the reasons I qualified and tempered my praise of those mentions with "True or not at crunch time. " Why not use the more conventional terms for it? Is there a translation issue such that they don't really mean what we think they mean? Was it written by someone else who gains from a booking and whatever hassle or confrontation the girl has about it in the room "at crunch time" is her problem?
Well anyway I do understand the part about, as TConor added, "With a 2 k extra charge. " Is that from first-hand personal experience, TConor? I assumed there would be an extra charge for it.
I want girls who agree upfront to BBFS+CIP even in writing to make more money. I want their co-workers to know they are making more money. And an extra charge for it helps to confirm that it means what we think it means and not something else. However, if there is a mention of how much the extra charge for that is on all their profiles or elsewhere on the website I guess I missed it.
Next thing you know some of the girls will be referring to it as "Real Sex. " In which case I am happy to offer a humble "You're welcome, gentlemen. " LOL.
Actually, the strange way it is mentioned on some girls' profiles is one of the reasons I qualified and tempered my praise of those mentions with "True or not at crunch time. " Why not use the more conventional terms for it? Is there a translation issue such that they don't really mean what we think they mean? Was it written by someone else who gains from a booking and whatever hassle or confrontation the girl has about it in the room "at crunch time" is her problem?
Well anyway I do understand the part about, as TConor added, "With a 2 k extra charge. " Is that from first-hand personal experience, TConor? I assumed there would be an extra charge for it.
I want girls who agree upfront to BBFS+CIP even in writing to make more money. I want their co-workers to know they are making more money. And an extra charge for it helps to confirm that it means what we think it means and not something else. However, if there is a mention of how much the extra charge for that is on all their profiles or elsewhere on the website I guess I missed it.As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.
As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.Look at the phrasing. "anal sucking?" = rimming," mouth finish " = CIM. "finish at face" = COF, etc.
Pointing out the not so obvious.
This 1,500 price isn't negotiating per SE. Highly likely they are not that desirable.
The only customers they get come in at Closing and don't give a BLEELP about how they Look. For them they get to tell Thier Billion East Asian pals they got a 50 % discount.I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.
I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.
Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".
That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.
Flight got delayed and postponed due to a massive typhoon approaching from Japan side. Since I got the message in time got a golden opportunity to enjoy Bangkok for some more time. This time I was very focused and wanted to do an African girl. Just to strike it off my wishlist. Saw many at Soi Cowboy (group of 5) and then many more (atleast 15) near Nana Plaza in small groups of 4-5. None were attractive or close to decent but then found one named 'Jamira'. She was bigger than most petitte girls and had a great skin texture and shiny face. Even African girls / ladies show no interest in Indians could be because they look down upon us or maybe they also had bad experience due to Indian bald uncle's. Anyways, I found her standing in one corner and spoke to her. She agreed for 1000 baht and room charges which was additional 250 baht. I went down on her for 30 minutes and she kept requesting me to continue as she was surprisingly always there. After doing all the efforts she finally came and then let me fuck her. It was ok but worth the money I paid and the fantasy I had to bang an African chick.
Since I had some more time in hand I went to Spankey's again but this time it wasn't a good experience. There was a lady named 'don't' who was a phenomenal dancer, had a great body and curvy boobs. Before me an American bought her a drink and she danced in his lap and let him feel her for 15 minutes.Shit like this happens all the time. Not a reason to fuss about it. One drink isn't going to break you.
As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.Ah nice. Thanks.
But still, not that I doubt the word of an online mamasan or question exactly how she can be sure what actually happens in the room "at crunch time" with any of the girls, are you also saying it was proven true to you in first-hand experience with those girls that their odd phrasing of it means what we think it means?
ThaiGoodTimes
08-17-23, 05:34
As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.How did mamasan confirm it?
And why not confirmed for the other two?
Did mamasan advise an expected price to be paid, or is it to be negotiated with the girl?
Look at the phrasing. "anal sucking?" = rimming," mouth finish " = CIM. "finish at face" = COF, etc.You are right about that.
They just got the translation wrong.
Sorry mate, I tend to disagree with you on the Thermae view point or Thai Chicks behaviour towards people of a particular country. This is my 3rd trip in 9 months, twice for work and once for total pleasure. So, I know what I am talking about with being on the ground and experiencing it myself. Firstly, allow me to share that it is the brown skinned people that they are wary off as some of them are but not all, not particularly Indians. I have been coming to Thailand since more than 12 years and never ever faced any kind of racisms during all my pleasure and business trips. Allow me to clarify that I am right now in Bangkok typing this report and I am an proud Indian. Yes, I have twice gone to Thermae Bar on 13th and 15th August night. Never did I felt discriminated or ignored or not preferred or given a cold treatment by chicks or they did not wish to go. I am not challenging your view point or your financial strategy of countering a chick with a 50% discount on her ask, its your wallet and decision. That is one reason if I may be allowed to pin point one reason for those chicks to respectful say no to a guys as they hold a viewpoint as the next brown skin man will offer her the same. These chicks have seen it all and understand it better than men.
My report of my 3 night Bangkok trip will be uploaded in a day or two as I am leaving for Pattaya for 7 nights where no business and all pleasure awaits me. Bangkok it was vice versa.
And yes, my report will be long enough. All brown skin people reading my report do not get discouraged and visit Thailand. It is a beautiful country with smiling people and follow the basic atticates and manners that are expected of any tourist be it of any country. That is the norm for all of us in our daily lives, isn't it guys?
All of these are my personal viewpoints.
Regards.Part of what he typed was true. I am fair skinned and I am a foreigner living in India, but I have Indian ancestry. I can understand what the other gentleman typed. I've seen how some Indian men behave towards Thai women. The problem is that you and I maybe educated and may use commonsense, but I have seen not just few, but tons of Indian men misbehave with thai women right from the airport itself. One of the biggest issue here from what I understand from conversations with some friends is that lots of companies give free tickets and package deals to Thailand to shop keepers or dealers for achieving sales targets or to take big orders. The owners of these establishments often send their staffs / shop keepers to Thailand and may prefer to elsewhere which are increasingly becoming a sex tourism destination for wealthier Indians, but raises fewer doubts among their family members. While the ones who do the bad things maybe less than 10% of the men visiting Thailand, These men ruin the reputation of good Indians. When I visited a famous Massage once, I overheard a group of Indian men threatening to walk out and take the business to the next establishment because they offer the same service for just half the price, and the mamasan and the girls themselves shouted back in Thai to get out and they continued swearing and took over a minute to calm down. I had an Indian colleague with me at that time and he was super ashamed. While the girls warmed up to me, they never gave any eye contact to my colleague and the one he chose literally walked away saying she has a stomach ache or something. I didn't want to leave him, I said sorry, maybe next time and I walked out with him. As we walked out, we saw this very group also leave the next establishment with a lot of swearing between them and the staffs of the MP.
The next day I did visit the same establishment as one girl caught my eye, and I was lucky she was free. She disclosed she recognized me when we were in the room and she was saying that she was so happy that none of them in that group selected her because some of her colleagues have been treated very roughly and some of them were even bitten.
News like these spread like a wild fire among the WG.
It's not with just WG they misbehave. When I took my flight from Chennai to BKK just after they re opened, I saw a lot of misbehaving. Many passengers were already drunk and families who boarded the plane had a terrified look in their faces. So many of them were refusing to wear masks. There were at least 5 men behind me who were very loud and were drinking alcohol despite the fight attendants begging them to stop doing that. Then one brawny fight attendant came to the rescue and shut them down by saying that he will make sure they get arrested when the flight lands.
I had a very similar experience from Kochi to BKK as well. Both of them were in AirAsia. I now take the XL seats, so I could avoid them.
Then once you land, we can witness the drama in the immigration counter as well. The less said, the better.
Back to my Indian colleague. He once took a grab to a famous shopping mall which was 10 kms away from where were lodging. The grab driver was so impressed by him that he did not believe he was an Indian because of how well he behaved and was groomed.
So like the other Gentleman reported, if we are groomed well, dressed well and more importantly smell good, Thai people do change their mind very fast and are very receptive.
The reason you maybe having a better time is simply because you look good, you present yourself very well and you take care of a lot more things than many Indian men do and you are enjoying the benefits.
Friday the 11th my plan got confirmed to land in Bkk on 13th. Booked my ticket of Thai airways at 14000 THB /437 USD (approx figures after converting from local currency). Was getting cheaper airlines as well but nah, I love Thai Airways and their service apart from their big aircrafts, 380 or 340 airbus my guess. I was informed that aircraft changed to Airbus 320 as less number of passengers. Seat next to me was not occupied as well. Normal average service nothing great. Reached my hotel, showered and straight away reached Thermae at around 10.30 PM. Took a whiskey and my my some of the Thai chicks were damn good and pretty, real peaches. Real ones which you don't find in clubs or pick up joints. Honestly, I could bang many of them. Club was getting crowded by Koreans. They just kept coming in groups and drinking, making noise and picking chicks, not all of them as I could see them haggle too. I liked a chick in blue dress and she was approached by lot of men but no one took her. I went to her too; her quote was 4 k ST and 10 K LT. She was stuck to her price and till the time I was there, no one had picked her up. I stayed there for an hour as it was my first visit and asked the motorbike guy outside of Shock 39. It's closed post covid and he suggested Mixx. I hoped on to his bike in 100 THB. It was my first visit there and had no idea how things worked. It was empty around 12 with a few chicks and less punters around. I asked one chick and she quoted me 5 K and she'll make me happy. I asked another and her ask was 10 K LT, I said too high and she came down to 8 K, last offer. The 1st chick came back to me and sat next to me with her fruit juice. Her English was very poor and I used Google translate to convey to her that I looking for Long time. I offered her 3500 for 4 to 5 hours and she agreed. I clarified on translate of her DFK and BJ to which she agreed. Nia her name was very nice, cute and well behaved. She informed me of being from Chiang Mai and here in Bkk for 5/6 days to buy 2nd hand clothes for her shop in her hometown and making some side money as she needed it. She was truthful and shared her shop pics and selling. Sex with her was great and I really fucked her to my heart's content wherein she came thrice, twice by DATY and once when I fucked her. It took me a long time to come as I like hard beds and it was a soft bed of my hotel. I came out of the shower and I saw her waiting for me all dressed up to depart. That's where things went downhill. During the argument that we had, I was the one who was livid, lost my cool and a very argumentative. Never did once Nia raised her voice, was disrespectful or angry. I showed her my Google translate chat to her and she said that my message got converted to that I am looking for relationship, long time. She was very confident and told me not to pay anything and go and clarify from anyone in the reception or any Thai and she will wait. She said she is not lying and 3500 was ST as Mixx prices are like 5 k ST to 8 k 10 k LT. Honestly guys, it was a communication gap from my end as Google translate fucked my message as I clarified from my friend on Monday morning who is a resident in BKK as that's exactly my message to her which got converted to looking for long term relationship. In a fit of rage, I handed her my wallet which contained 25 K, took out the entire cash, told her of 25 K and handed her to take it all as I was not lying myself. She did not touch my notes and was not even livid. She had asked for advance and I told her to trust me as I will give it to her later. She said I trusted you; I gave her 3500 THB and said you have cheated me. Believe me guys, her eyes got wet and informed me she's a Buddha fearing girl and has never cheated anyone in her life. I did not take her number which I always do if I like a girl, but Monday morning realized my mistake as could have a ready date in Chiang Mia if I happen to go. Nevertheless, slept 4 hours to get ready for my Monday work meetings.
I was very tired due to my less sleep in the last 2/3 days and aching legs due to wrap things at my end before my departure. My meeting had to start at 12.30 noon. 10.30 am, Went to a 7 eleven close to my hotel and a massage shop just opened and girls coming in. I chose to go in lured by a girl who had not even changed. Told her of my back and leg pain and opted for dry Thai massage and did not change into spa clothes neither took off my Undies. Because I lose control. LOL. 50 minutes of excellent massage wherein she tried playing with Junior and I stopped her from doing so. She offered sex or a HJ, I said No. Wanted to save my juice for the evening and informed her that I don't have a condom. She said work is bad and I am her first customer as shop just opened. She offered FS at 800 THB and I gave in because her body was good with a decent face. Plus I had my balls filled up with half night session. It was a wonderful session of fucking and CBJ. Guys, it was my first time of CBJ as never felt any kind of rubber on shaft during her sucking; it was great skills and effort. I have never said yes to it but she herself changed the condom and gave me a CBJ as I was really short of time and told her to finish me up as couldn't come during intercourse. It was right decision from my side as I felt happy, satisfied and contended post the session. In the evening, went to Nana Plaza to get a hang of it and check out a few Ago go bars. 30 minutes, Had one whiskey in the middle of Plaza and saw all the bars from below. Twisters right in front of me, decent chicks coming in and out. I had terrible hip pain due to excessive walking during a plant visit and SOIs. Went in to check Rainbow 5, billboards and butterfly. Surprisingly, Rainbow 5 was empty on Monday night and other two with hardly any customers. Spent only 5 minutes in Rainbow 5 and spent 30 minutes each in other 2 clubs. Had a drink in both of them. They made me sit on the sofa in front of naked girls without bras and man o man I could spend hours there just looking at their bodies dancing with their boobs juggling around. Some girls had good bodies and all natural tits. Great sight. I am not a fan of ago go clubs as too pricey for me and add to it Mamasan fees. Full credit to Billboard and butterfly as no pushing around or heckling for drinks. I had excruciating hip pain and decided to call it a night and came back to my room by 2 PM. On the way, enjoyed my 2 chocolate ice creams. I was happy with my morning massage session.
Tuesday the 15th, worked all day and somehow reached my hotel on time. I was very keen and adamant to pick a chick from Thermae as a few were rubbed on to my brain. Reached at 10.30 PM, grabbed a drink and to my surprise a lot of new chicks and the old ones not to be found. Did the walk of shame as am not used to it and find it uncomfortable to actually look at them like that. Standing in front of them looking at their faces, checking out their bodies and especially the boobs. I zeroed in on 3 chicks. 1st one had big boobs, real good big ones but short height. 2nd one slim, white, very beautiful, true Thai beauty, graceful and elegant in her black dress, 3rd one had just entered and had a great body, nice tits, beautiful smiling face with dimple on both cheeks. She was standing in front of me and ever smiling. She Was being approached by a lot of guys and not being selected or turning them down. All of them quoted me 3 K short time. Man, I wish I was young; had the capacity to bang all of them in one night 10 years ago but not anymore. Junior doesn't cooperate. Finally, made up my mind for the 3rd one as everything ticked my boxes of requirement. Boobs, face, body, smiling personality and above all her willingness to go with me by constantly looking me with her beautiful smiling face. Her English was decent and clarified of her DFK and BJ to which she agreed. I went to her only on time to enquire her ask and she quoted me 3 K, I counter with 2. 5 K with exact words- 2. 5 K for one hour, humble request. She thought for 10 seconds and said yes. I would have taken her even for 3 K. We both walked hand in hand to my SOI 11 hotel and what a wonderful and great session I had with her. I really had a intense wonderful fuck session with her and in doggie again my hip pain got to me. Requested her for BJ without condom and she obliged me. Wow, simply Wow. 11.30 PM we reached and 12.30 exactly she departed. She is working in Thai Electric as told to me and once or twice a week is in Thermae. Was truthful to inform me that she is going back to the bar and will work one more time in the night. Hugged her and had a nice DFK from her as a parting bye bye present. I wanted to simply make the best of last night in BKK and literally dragged myself to Grace to check out the CIS scene. Sat on their sofas for half an hour to catch my breath and relax. Went to their disco to be informed of 500 THB entry and I turned back to my hotel as was sheer waste of money at 1. 30 am to slowly walk and enjoy my 2 chocolate ice creams. I know I will put on weight but I will get back in shape back in my hometown. I could have taken the cab or motorbike but chose to walk as wanted to experience it myself from the ground.
During my Bangkok trip, I was always racing against the time and trying to fit in time for my fun activity as it was more of a Business and less of pleasure whereas I go to Pattaya Wednesday where it would be vice versa. Plus, pain in my left hip is really bothering me now and making me difficult to walk around much but I am still doing my best. I was always landing in Bkk but never stayed here, did my work in day time to always reach Pattaya by late night to enjoy. I realize now I should have always broken my trip into 2 parts as I have done now.
Long FR but posting it.
Regards.
I hate to admit it mate but that's the sad truth. I cringe and really get upset when I see that kind of behaviour by some of my countrymen but I don't blame them as most of them are first time international travellors and have no idea as to how they are expected to behave. I am not defending them at all as that's no excuse to do what they do, a wrong is a wrong. Plus, it is their first time exposure to such openness and availability of pussy in such large numbers at various price levels. A lot of other factors too. Also, 15 USD is not a big amount for some of us but for a lot of guy's it is. I also agree to the part of 1500 THB for a Thermae chick is you get trash. I would anyday pay these kind of beautiful chicks 2. 5 k /3 k short time or 5/6 k long time, at the one I banged from Thermae was worth every penny.
As far as Indian clubs are concerned, please note that they are not cheap. Pussy and alcohol is expensive and it sells like hot cakes. The Indian clubs are full wheras the Ago go bars and some other clubs like Lucifer and Insomania in Pattaya I went yesterday were half empty. I walked out of all Indian clubs last night, my first one here as felt suffocated and hardly an inch to move. The chicks were quoting in the range of 4 k and were lapped up from 3. 5 K to 4 k. CIS good looking ones from 4 k to 5 k. Reporting from ground zero. It is just that Indians gel in those kind of clubs with their kind of songs and ambaiance.
Regards.
I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.
I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.
Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".
That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.
I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.
I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.
Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".
That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. I did get the line of one girl.
Later when I texted her asking how much does she expect, she said it's up to me.
But, I didn't pursue her, as I met a French girl from OkCupid.
I am planning on returning once I visit Bangkok again at the end of September.
SladeWilson
08-17-23, 15:46
Where is the best place to get European freelancer? Any recommended app or bar or road? Thanks.
Kadaklaunda
08-17-23, 17:09
It depends on one's perspective sir! I never said there are quality girls available for 1500 baht but I did mention that the second best lot is available for 1500 baht at a certain time and how I managed my way through to score 3 chicks. Of course $15 is nothing for a American but for an Indian on a budget, it is alot. Hence the post is directed more towards SA brothers whose currency is weaker than baht and certainly dollar. I understand the thin line I was walking and the danger of being reputed as 'cheap' but through my post I just shared ways of finding a way around it without looking / being cheap. Of course there is no scope of negotiation in a MP or a Go-Go Bar, so the only way I could save some baht and enjoy more pussies was negotiating at Thermae. But I respect your viewpoint!
I go to Thermae two or three times a week. There are no quality girls for 1500 B.
I barely negotiate. Over $15? I would rather not ruin my reputation.
Indian guys will never get the respect they think they deserve from Thai people until they shed their reputation of being "cheap".
That's why they have their own night clubs and bars.Every coin has two sides sir! I don't think I was given a cold treatment anywhere but just the fact that the obvious preference was for the Koreans and Japanese atleast at Thermae- I take this risk in saying even more over the Westeners. But I agree with you that these chicks have sen it all and understand the customers than any of us. I also agree with the fact that if one is presentable and shows good manners you are building that reputation again for your fellow countrymen / brown colour brothers.
Sorry mate, I tend to disagree with you on the Thermae view point or Thai Chicks behaviour towards people of a particular country. This is my 3rd trip in 9 months, twice for work and once for total pleasure. So, I know what I am talking about with being on the ground and experiencing it myself. Firstly, allow me to share that it is the brown skinned people that they are wary off as some of them are but not all, not particularly Indians. I have been coming to Thailand since more than 12 years and never ever faced any kind of racisms during all my pleasure and business trips. Allow me to clarify that I am right now in Bangkok typing this report and I am an proud Indian. Yes, I have twice gone to Thermae Bar on 13th and 15th August night. Never did I felt discriminated or ignored or not preferred or given a cold treatment by chicks or they did not wish to go. I am not challenging your view point or your financial strategy of countering a chick with a 50% discount on her ask, its your wallet and decision. That is one reason if I may be allowed to pin point one reason for those chicks to respectful say no to a guys as they hold a viewpoint as the next brown skin man will offer her the same. These chicks have seen it all and understand it better than men.
My report of my 3 night Bangkok trip will be uploaded in a day or two as I am leaving for Pattaya for 7 nights where no business and all pleasure awaits me. Bangkok it was vice versa.
And yes, my report will be long enough. All brown skin people reading my report do not get discouraged and visit Thailand. It is a beautiful country with smiling people and follow the basic atticates and manners that are expected of any tourist be it of any country. That is the norm for all of us in our daily lives, isn't it guys?
All of these are my personal viewpoints.
Regards.There is no scope for negotiations in MPs and Go-Go Bars, so the best chance was in Thermae and that too at certain time and hour. Ofcourse 3000 baht is a normal price quoted in Thermae but the fact that decent girls (in my view atleast) agreed to come at that price is just something I am sharing. It could be that had no takers or maybe they already were with someone and this was like Round 2 for them. But it worked!
Very interesting report and perspective from South Asian bros. I like that you included the exact amount you spent and I like to do the same. However IMO the fact you push for such steep discount is one of the reasons why South Asians are "looked down" on by the girls and potentially other guys at the establishments. 3000 b is a normal price to be quoted in thermae and girls refusing to go below this amount isn't an indication they're not interested, but it's just their price. They would likely have the same requirements for white or east Asians too. But it seems you were quite happy with the selection of girls you had in thermae so well done and glad you had a good time!
What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. I did get the line of one girl.
Later when I texted her asking how much does she expect, she said it's up to me.
But, I didn't pursue her, as I met a French girl from OkCupid.
I am planning on returning once I visit Bangkok again at the end of September.The standard price quoted is 3 K, the girls are incentivized to "unionize" to keep this price floor. You can negotiate on an individual basis but more likely than not this will be the price asked of you.
What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. I did get the line of one girl.
Later when I texted her asking how much does she expect, she said it's up to me.
But, I didn't pursue her, as I met a French girl from OkCupid.
I am planning on returning once I visit Bangkok again at the end of September.Just as a follow up. I personally do not think Thermae has that many girls that I would consider good looking. It's at most maybe 1-2 that I would be interested in and many times I have taken a loop and walked straight out. Their strategy of making it incredibly dim in there also does not help that much, women can look alright in there and just bad once they get outside.
Banana Boi
08-17-23, 20:20
What do you think they charge for ST? I went there once just to see how it works. Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
As far as Indian clubs are concerned, please note that they are not cheap. Pussy and alcohol is expensive and it sells like hot cakes.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks!
Banana Boi
08-17-23, 20:29
Where is the best place to get European freelancer? Any recommended app or bar or road? Thanks.Can't answer your question I go to Germany when I want Euro white meat.
On a similar topic, I know there are many Arab restaurant and bars near Sukhumvit. Do any of them have cute young Persian girls, even if they're only a waitress?
BB, they go there as they are more comfortable in the ambiance of Indian songs, Indian snacks / food; they can be themselves and let loose there with their shitty dance moves. The staff is all either nepali, Indian, pakistani, Burmese, Bangaldeshi and they all speak in Hindi language with their customers. So the overall package works for the Indian men. They do not play western music at all. Thai girls all of them in huge numbers there do not discrimnate and like to go with Indian men at decent Thai Baht. One girl my regular is right now sleeping in bed while I type this told me last night that she doesn't like to go with Koreans, chinese or japanese because they all look like Thai men. Trust me, for once go to Kama and Jannat club in Pattaya to experience it for yourself and see the number of beuatiful chicks there. Indians will not be able to enjoy in ago go bars or clubs like lucifer or Insomania. I went there too last night. Insomania had 50% occupancy at 11.30 PM and lucifer hardly 20%. I made my way to Kama to pick up my chick and on the way saw droves of people lining up to enter Tony club, oh my god reached Kama and not an inch to move and I literally had to jostle to reach to my babe's table.
Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks!
Firstly allow me to state in advance that I am not blaming, pin pointing or accusing any religion or community in my below FR. It is just my experience what I notice on the ground, My humble apologies in advance if anyone finds it offensive. Please do excuse me and forgive.
I can relate to each and every word that you shared here as I put forth my point in advance to my revert to Nyezhov of Indian men behaviour and I am not defending one bit of what you seen as I have seen worst in the last 12 years. I wrote there number of factors. Some of them you mentioned like dealer sales conference. Now, Thailand in India is promoted like crazy shit by both Govt's due to the sheer numbers of travellors from India. Cheap package of 3 nights including accomodation with 2 meals at 10500/- THB are promoted by travel agents as I am aware of the Travel companies MNC's of blocking by buying bulk seats in advance for full year; I have some links in Travel Industry and know how things work there. It is a lucrative sector for Travel Industry and even the smallest of centres in India have flights for Bangkok. The worst one example is that a Thai chick hit a empty beer bottle on Indian head as he thought she was a pick up girl in Pattaya in 2015 on Beach Road. You think I am not ashamed. I wrote earlier my stomach churnes with anger and hatred when I see this. My guess is 90% of Brown skin people are from India. If I am not wrong, I do not have the numbers but from the ground either it could be koreans or Indians leading the pack of highest number of travellors. I guess it's Indians, I could be wrong too. She was a civilian chick just doing her job by selling something on her cart. I guess your base is South India so you know that the Chappal lads mostly come from that part of the country or from Gujrat. I come from New Delhi. The people from North India, primarily Punjabis or from other states like to drink, party hard, eat like crazy. Yes, they are a bit loud too. It's not about money of either regions but it's the lifestyle that they lead even in their own country. I know rich Chennai business men who are millonarires and still wear chappals to their office. It is part of his lifestyle. Likewise, in north India, even if they have empty pockets they like to be shown otherwise. I am sure you must have seen this with your own eyes. I like to converse with Indian men when I see them. 3 guys got on to tuk tuk from soi 6 last evening and all 3 had good diamond rings and necklaces on them. I asked them their hometown. They were diamond merchants from Surat and were staying in Jomtein. They spent 2 hours in soi 6 drinking and partying and all 3 were in shorts and chappals. I wasn't surprised as I have been there as well for my work. Even the richest of gujratis are simple and move around like this. Likewise, 3 Arabic guys too got into the same tuk tuk and were likewise dressed in shorts and slippers but they wouldn't be judged as Indians are. I know our behaviour and actions on the ground has not been good, no defence there.
As far as I am concerned, girls tell me that I do not look like Indian. I look Arabic or from Canada as I have fair skin, thank my parents; I dress well, put in a lot of effort on my grooming on a weakly basis, smell well by putting on a good perfume and am always humble, down to earth, grounded and respect women. I exercise so I am fit for my age as I am 50 plus and do not have a round tummy as I am very careful as to what goes into my stomach. I'm a one meal man. But that's a part of my life and the way I lead it even in my hometown. I do not do it for travelling to Thalland. I also never shy away by telling them that I am from India.
Regards.
Part of what he typed was true. I am fair skinned and I am a foreigner living in India, but I have Indian ancestry. I can understand what the other gentleman typed. I've seen how some Indian men behave towards Thai women. The problem is that you and I maybe educated and may use commonsense, but I have seen not just few, but tons of Indian men misbehave with thai women right from the airport itself. One of the biggest issue here from what I understand from conversations with some friends is that lots of companies give free tickets and package deals to Thailand to shop keepers or dealers for achieving sales targets or to take big orders. The owners of these establishments often send their staffs / shop keepers to Thailand and may prefer to elsewhere which are increasingly becoming a sex tourism destination for wealthier Indians, but raises fewer doubts among their family members. While the ones who do the bad things maybe less than 10% of the men visiting Thailand, These men ruin the reputation of good Indians. When I visited a famous Massage once, I overheard a group of Indian men threatening to walk out and take the business to the next establishment because they offer the same service for just half the price, and the mamasan and the girls themselves shouted back in Thai to get out and they continued swearing and took over a minute to calm down. I had an Indian colleague with me at that time and he was super ashamed. While the girls warmed up to me, they never gave any eye contact to my colleague and the one he chose literally walked away saying she has a stomach ache or something. I didn't want to leave him, I said sorry, maybe next time and I walked out with him. As we walked out, we saw this very group also leave the next establishment with a lot of swearing between them and the staffs of the MP.
The next day I did visit the same establishment as one girl caught my eye, and I was lucky she was free. She disclosed she recognized me when we were in the room and she was saying that she was so happy that none of them in that group selected her because some of her colleagues have been treated very roughly and some of them were even bitten.
News like these spread like a wild fire among the WG.
It's not with just WG they misbehave. When I took my flight from Chennai to BKK just after they re opened, I saw a lot of misbehaving. Many passengers were already drunk and families who boarded the plane had a terrified look in their faces. So many of them were refusing to wear masks. There were at least 5 men behind me who were very loud and were drinking alcohol despite the fight attendants begging them to stop doing that. Then one brawny fight attendant came to the rescue and shut them down by saying that he will make sure they get arrested when the flight lands.
I had a very similar experience from Kochi to BKK as well. Both of them were in AirAsia. I now take the XL seats, so I could avoid them.
Then once you land, we can witness the drama in the immigration counter as well. The less said, the better.
Back to my Indian colleague. He once took a grab to a famous shopping mall which was 10 kms away from where were lodging. The grab driver was so impressed by him that he did not believe he was an Indian because of how well he behaved and was groomed.
So like the other Gentleman reported, if we are groomed well, dressed well and more importantly smell good, Thai people do change their mind very fast and are very receptive.
The reason you maybe having a better time is simply because you look good, you present yourself very well and you take care of a lot more things than many Indian men do and you are enjoying the benefits.
Can't answer your question I go to Germany when I want Euro white meat.
On a similar topic, I know there are many Arab restaurant and bars near Sukhumvit. Do any of them have cute young Persian girls, even if they're only a waitress?No.
But cute Persian girls? Girls? Ya mean women like the Burkha Babes on Soi 4? Ewwww.
I'm with you Boi I'm on my way to Frankfurt.
MomoFarang
08-18-23, 03:42
Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?There is very little enforcement of regular testing. IMHO the rule should be at least once a month and the reality is probably closer to once or twice a year. Just don't go about unprotected. Use condoms, PREP, PEP, whatever, but the risk in Thailand is a lot higher than in Europe or US. The main vector being the Thai male who tends to be sexually ambivalent. The bar girl we have unprotected sex with, had sex with some BF, who had been shagged by his platoon leader during his military service, or his abbot while he was a monk.
Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks!Well regardless Imwith you, I'm a reputation guy, especially when I have been going to the Thermae for years.
But now I'm thinking. Classy, albiet old and fat white American guy goes to Indian Club? Hmmmmm, seems like decent pricing. Although Indian guys like them a bit padded, no?
Long FR but posting it.
Regards.Excellent Reports.
Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Never been to one so never knew this. If the girls and drinks aren't cheap why do Indian men all flock to these clubs? Is it because there's much less fear of rejection by the girls?
Maybe I'll drag MP to one in a couple of weeks!Indian clubs are often frequented by lesser educated Indians or Indian agents who bring groups of lesser educated Indians and confine them into these clubs so whatever BS they throw, it will all be contained within those walls.
It's a good thing for the more educated and well behaved Indians whose reputations are damaged by those men.
Thermae prices have been 2500 baht ST for the prettier girls for many years. Some still charge 2500 others will ask 3000 now. Yes you can still get the not so young or pretty girls for 2000 or less at the end of the night if they have been standing around the bar for 5 hours with no takers. Those aren't usually the ones I would ever target at Thermae. Like Nyezhov if a girl wants 3000 and she's hot enough I'll take her. Reputation does matter in these places and gogo bars although we've had member disputes over that before.
Thank you for the tip. Will keep in mind next time I get in.
Where is the best place to get European freelancer? Any recommended app or bar or road? Thanks.Try seeking arrangement if you have the money.
Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?
I'll be there in a week so I started TF to line up some prospects and it seems like there are more civvies than last year. I didn't have any luck with civvies in BKK last year and even the FLers on TF in BKK were pretty meh. Conversely thus far I'm getting a lot of good feedback and a good amount of civvies lined up.
I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.
Anyways, curious what those that are there have to say.
I'll report once I'm there.
Banana Boi
08-18-23, 23:08
No.
But cute Persian girls? Girls? Ya mean women like the Burkha Babes on Soi 4? Ewwww.
I'm with you Boi I'm on my way to Frankfurt.I have no idea why but IRL I really seem to click with young cutesy Persian girls under 30, or are Persian civvies friendly to everyone? So was curious to see if I could meet some less Westernized ones in Thailand. Zero plans to go to Middle East any time soon.
Jealous of you going to FRA. Was just checking out hotel prices in FRA for next Spring and they're ridiculously higher than I remember. I usually stay near Oase cause I prefer the old Euro town feel. At least NRW isn't sky high. Need to be out of Japan for the chaos known as Sakura season and Golden Week.
Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.
I have no idea why but IRL I really seem to click with young cutesy Persian girls under 30, or are Persian civvies friendly to everyone? So was curious to see if I could meet some less Westernized ones in Thailand. Zero plans to go to Middle East any time soon.
Jealous of you going to FRA. Was just checking out hotel prices in FRA for next Spring and they're ridiculously higher than I remember. I usually stay near Oase cause I prefer the old Euro town feel. At least NRW isn't sky high. Need to be out of Japan for the chaos known as Sakura season and Golden Week.Are you talking about Bad Homburg? I stayed there on my last trip to Oase /.
Are you talking about Bad Homburg? I stayed there on my last trip to Oase /.But what is there to do in Bad Homburg? I always stay in Frankfurt, close to the main train station. The hotels are not outrageously priced. They are rather reasonable.
Going there early September, and staying by the Haupt Bahnhoff..
Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?
I'll be there in a week so I started TF to line up some prospects and it seems like there are more civvies than last year. I didn't have any luck with civvies in BKK last year and even the FLers on TF in BKK were pretty meh. Conversely thus far I'm getting a lot of good feedback and a good amount of civvies lined up.
I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.
Anyways, curious what those that are there have to say.
I'll report once I'm there.Why do you think the tourist numbers are down from last year? I haven't counted the tourists but the city is heaving. A 5 km taxi ride last night took 55 minutes.
Banana Boi
08-19-23, 06:32
But what is there to do in Bad Homburg? I always stay in Frankfurt, close to the main train station. The hotels are not outrageously priced. Yes, Bad Homburg more specifically Friedrichsdorf. Also used to stay in Butzbach but now that World has gone to shit I no longer do that. When I go to Germany it's to unwind in small towns and FKK clubs. I never set foot in Frankfurt only to go to Palace and 12 Apostle. I find Frankfurt a very boring city.
I have no idea why but IRL I really seem to click with young cutesy Persian girls under 30, or are Persian civvies friendly to everyone? So was curious to see if I could meet some less Westernized ones in Thailand. Zero plans to go to Middle East any time soon.
Jealous of you going to FRA. Was just checking out hotel prices in FRA for next Spring and they're ridiculously higher than I remember. I usually stay near Oase cause I prefer the old Euro town feel. At least NRW isn't sky high. Need to be out of Japan for the chaos known as Sakura season and Golden Week.I feel like orices for hotels in europe went up after covid and they have to come back down. It's not just a small amount either. I used to find hotels in Berlin for under $50 a night, but now they're hard to find under $100 unless you book way in advance.
Also, I hate frankfurt. Worst german city by far in terms of finding things to do, and the red light district there is just horrific -- the smell of urine, people doing meth all over the place in plain site, filthy streets and sidewalks. It's all very un-german. I don't know what's happened. I generally avoided FKKs while I was there for reasons I won't go into.
Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.If you want BKK to be a regular thing, make sure the wife has a good time. I'd recommend a spa for her. There are some cheaper options and the time she spends there will probably be about the time you need to do your thing. Plus, less danger of her calling you in an hour because she's tired shopping.
Yes, Bad Homburg more specifically Friedrichsdorf. Also used to stay in Butzbach but now that World has gone to shit I no longer do that. When I go to Germany it's to unwind in small towns and FKK clubs. I never set foot in Frankfurt only to go to Palace and 12 Apostle. I find Frankfurt a very boring city.Bad homburg is a cool little place with very nice parks and some baths and some cheap hotels I really enjoyed it. Hang out and relax during the day then hit Oase at night.
I think I'm going to go to darmstadt and do sharks.
But back on topic I was bored yesterday and finally up and running after coming back from Cambodia and about 2 weeks of wanking since Siem Reap is not a mongers heaven. So I played with Fiwfans and ended up schlepping around near Suttisan MRT to bang some girl that didn't look like her picture. I was so deep into the back sois during rush hour that I just did it anyway, and it was a girl I never would have picked out in person. But it was something to do, and later on that night I smashed one of my regulars just to do a twofer. That takes care of my needs until I leave Bangkok next week.
If you are a visitor here, I would pay no attention to Fiwfans at all. Firstly, you're never going to get a guarantee that what you see is what you get. The girl I did had reviews, and still didn't look like her pictures. But by the time you figure that out, you're going to be in an area that will probably scare the shit out of you if you've never been to Thailand before, ie poor lighting, insane drivers, busted sidewalks, etc.
And it's no bargain besides, my cab ride after the deed down to Asoke was 280 baht. And that's on the meter, with my resident's ability to grab a cab for a trip like that on the meter from the back soi when you're the only white dude around. If you're a rookie, you're going to get murdered.
I'm sure I'll use Fiwfans in the future, but I will confess to my mistake which was doing it around rush hour. I'll also try to pick a girl in and more accessible area. But quite frankly, for me, it's easier just to pick my fat ass up off the couch, put the bong down, and roll down to the circus.
If you are a visitor here, I would pay no attention to Fiwfans at all. Firstly, you're never going to get a guarantee that what you see is what you get. The girl I did had reviews, and still didn't look like her pictures. But by the time you figure that out, you're going to be in an area that will probably scare the shit out of you if you've never been to Thailand before, ie poor lighting, insane drivers, busted sidewalks, etc.
And it's no bargain besides, my cab ride after the deed down to Asoke was 280 baht. And that's on the meter, with my resident's ability to grab a cab for a trip like that on the meter from the back soi when you're the only white dude around. If you're a rookie, you're going to get murdered.
I'm sure I'll use Fiwfans in the future, but I will confess to my mistake which was doing it around rush hour. I'll also try to pick a girl in and more accessible area. But quite frankly, for me, it's easier just to pick my fat ass up off the couch, put the bong down, and roll down to the circus.I tried fiwfans for the first time in my last trip. Think you just need to figure out which district are closest to you. If you're comfortable on a motobike, transport won't do much dmg. Around 40 bucks one way but might be a lot more if taking a cab. Places I went to didn't seem shady. Surprisingly most of my visits was to a family hotel, you know which one if you've been.
MickeyDuck1208
08-19-23, 17:07
Been on this thread as I might swing by BKK early Sept. Bumped into your post and double checked your DXB posts.
Check DM in a while, will share some tips for BKK. Not easy with the lady in tow, but try your luck!!
Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.
SinfullyKorean
08-19-23, 21:52
For your first visit, I would keep the visit very simple. I doubt you're spending more than a week in BBK with your wife. I would stick to the Nana plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae Cafe. It might be.
More expensive, but it requires much less effort.
There's also massage shops on soi 23 (make a left out of Soi Cowboy, walk about 5 minutes and a bunch of massage shops on your right). These can also be cheap options. I usually pay 1500 total for the HR massage + CFS. But I personally don't think 2000 baht is bad for a newbie who's never negotiated in BKK before. These MP girls don't usually like to kiss, so it's usually not the most GFE session.
If you're set on FiwFans, just remember it requires quite a bit of planning and research. You'll need to check the profiles, see if they're nearby, check their reviews, check the reviewers' profiles to see if they're legit, etc. It pays off really well, as I've had some amazing GFE sessions. But it does require quite a bit of time initially. And as you can see, people like Nyezhov get turned off by it. I did initially, too. Until I gave it a second, more serious attempt.
Hi all,
It's hopefully my first of many trips into BKK, my wife is with me so she's picked the conrad, reading around it seems its around 20 minutes walk from the action.
I was hopeing some of you could help suggest some nearby joints which are walkable from the hotel, I am fit so no issues walking. Plan was to leave the wife for a short while and head out or take her to Nana Square's Mall and leave her their while I went to a nearby shop.
Can anyone share any recomendations of either a good place or otherwise. Have been going over the thread and trying to find some decent recomendations for I guess younger girls.
SinfullyKorean
08-19-23, 21:58
I was just there in early June. I found a cutie (Duen) on TF. She quoted me 2500 for 12 hours, unlimited sex. I didn't negotiate any further and took her at her offer. I think the normal price is about 3000-5000 for LT in BKK on TF and 1500-2000 for ST (some of the younger ladies). This was my personal experience.
Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?
I'll be there in a week so I started TF to line up some prospects and it seems like there are more civvies than last year. I didn't have any luck with civvies in BKK last year and even the FLers on TF in BKK were pretty meh. Conversely thus far I'm getting a lot of good feedback and a good amount of civvies lined up.
I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.
Anyways, curious what those that are there have to say.
I'll report once I'm there.
Chan Chalupa
08-20-23, 01:12
For your first visit, I would keep the visit very simple. I doubt you're spending more than a week in BBK with your wife. I would stick to the Nana plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae Cafe. It might be.
More expensive, but it requires much less effort.
There's also massage shops on soi 23 (make a left out of Soi Cowboy, walk about 5 minutes and a bunch of massage shops on your right). These can also be cheap options. I usually pay 1500 total for the HR massage + CFS. But I personally don't think 2000 baht is bad for a newbie who's never negotiated in BKK before. These MP girls don't usually like to kiss, so it's usually not the most GFE session.
If you're set on FiwFans, just remember it requires quite a bit of planning and research. You'll need to check the profiles, see if they're nearby, check their reviews, check the reviewers' profiles to see if they're legit, etc. It pays off really well, as I've had some amazing GFE sessions. But it does require quite a bit of time initially. And as you can see, people like Nyezhov get turned off by it. I did initially, too. Until I gave it a second, more serious attempt.These massage shops outside Soi Cowboy it must be said. There are No attractive providers. You could find a cute one every now and then pre Cobbida but now NOTHING.
I tried fiwfans for the first time in my last trip. Think you just need to figure out which district are closest to you. If you're comfortable on a motobike, transport won't do much dmg. Around 40 bucks one way but might be a lot more if taking a cab. Places I went to didn't seem shady. Surprisingly most of my visits was to a family hotel, you know which one if you've been.I've been cruising BKK since before the Skytrain was there. I know where I am going and how to get there. If you're a newbie, you're going to be deep into the Thai areas. And I never said the word shady, there are other hazards in Bangkok besides crime or shady areas. Nor do I care about saving money, and I don't ride motorbikes.
Despite with any fan boy it might say, it's a waste of time for a casual visitor or mongerer to use Fiw. You don't save that much money if you are freaked out about your budget, you'll end up in some God forsaken area where the hell off of the main road, and you're not necessarily going to get what the picture shows. That's after you spend a couple of hours flipping through photoshopped pictures. Add to that the fact that these girls generally Service Tire customers as opposed to westerners. I would use it again if necessary, but it's so easy just to leave my condo and just grab something that I can inspect in person first.
On a personal note, I love being lectured and how to find my way around Bangkok by people who are only on their first few trips with all the transport now available. You should have been here when the taxis didn't have electronic meters and their were no trains or subways.
KalaBairava
08-20-23, 05:04
I am from India and travelling to Bangkok next month. I'the like some guidance from seniors from Thailand / Bangkok if there's an option like "rent a girlfriend concept" like in Japan for sightseeing and few extra service for a period of 2 days.
And is it good to explore MR to find chicks for FS or wander out in walking street and avoid inviting girls in hotel.
My stay will be short 2-3 days max and would like to explore Thai lifestyle and also explore the chicks around.
I've been cruising BKK since before the Skytrain was there. I know where I am going and how to get there. If you're a newbie, you're going to be deep into the Thai areas. And I never said the word shady, there are other hazards in Bangkok besides crime or shady areas. Nor do I care about saving money, and I don't ride motorbikes.
Despite with any fan boy it might say, it's a waste of time for a casual visitor or mongerer to use Fiw. You don't save that much money if you are freaked out about your budget, you'll end up in some God forsaken area where the hell off of the main road, and you're not necessarily going to get what the picture shows. That's after you spend a couple of hours flipping through photoshopped pictures. Add to that the fact that these girls generally Service Tire customers as opposed to westerners. I would use it again if necessary, but it's so easy just to leave my condo and just grab something that I can inspect in person first.
On a personal note, I love being lectured and how to find my way around Bangkok by people who are only on their first few trips with all the transport now available. You should have been here when the taxis didn't have electronic meters and their were no trains or subways.Whoa sorry didn't mean to offend you just giving a different opinion and experience.
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