Bangkok Reports

[SamSam2]

At MickeyDuck1208 Thanks buddy ill see you in the transit lounge.

At SinfullyKorean. Thanks for the advise, you are right its a trip of 5 days with my wife. Being a newbie in BKK I probably don't know the ways here but I have mongered in other parts of the world and its been good fun, hopefully I can get around what you pay. Just a question which sound a little stupid. I've seen places like Dream Massage which adverise I think 3000, does that include the girls tip? What is a general massage around and I assume you negociate with the girl in the shop?

I am after simlicity as my wife won't know what I am upto (I hope not) and being at the conrad, Nana plaza seems close and in honesty I am after simplicity so should that be on FiwFans or on the streets.

Thanks for your advise, any other advise for a first timer in BKK is always appreaicted.


For your first visit, I would keep the visit very simple. I doubt you're spending more than a week in BBK with your wife. I would stick to the Nana plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Thermae Cafe. It might be.

More expensive, but it requires much less effort.

There's also massage shops on soi 23 (make a left out of Soi Cowboy, walk about 5 minutes and a bunch of massage shops on your right). These can also be cheap options. I usually pay 1500 total for the HR massage + CFS. But I personally don't think 2000 baht is bad for a newbie who's never negotiated in BKK before. These MP girls don't usually like to kiss, so it's usually not the most GFE session.

If you're set on FiwFans, just remember it requires quite a bit of planning and research. You'll need to check the profiles, see if they're nearby, check their reviews, check the reviewers' profiles to see if they're legit, etc. It pays off really well, as I've had some amazing GFE sessions. But it does require quite a bit of time initially. And as you can see, people like Nyezhov get turned off by it. I did initially, too. Until I gave it a second, more serious attempt.

[SinfullyKorean]

Average massage will be 200-300 baht per HR in Bangkok. Oil massage will usually cost about 300-500. This is what they normally want you to get if you want full service (sex). If there is no written price above 2000, you will need to negotiate with the girl. If you had more time, I'd suggest negotiating down to 1000-1500 for the girl. Since you're only staying 5 days, with wife in tow, I think you'll have an easy time with 2000.

The massage shops with prices listed at above 2000 usually include full service and body to body massage. If you want, you can confirm with the receptionist. There's always a receptionist / mamasan to welcome you and ask you who you want. Make sure to tell her you want to see the ladies first. She'll bring them out and give you a lineup. Feel free to walk out if you don't see anything you like.

If you read through this forum, you should see a soi (street) with a bunch of full service massage shops. Maybe soi 26 near prom phong bts station.


At MickeyDuck1208 Thanks buddy ill see you in the transit lounge.

At SinfullyKorean. Thanks for the advise, you are right its a trip of 5 days with my wife. Being a newbie in BKK I probably don't know the ways here but I have mongered in other parts of the world and its been good fun, hopefully I can get around what you pay. Just a question which sound a little stupid. I've seen places like Dream Massage which adverise I think 3000, does that include the girls tip? What is a general massage around and I assume you negociate with the girl in the shop?

I am after simlicity as my wife won't know what I am upto (I hope not) and being at the conrad, Nana plaza seems close and in honesty I am after simplicity so should that be on FiwFans or on the streets.

Thanks for your advise, any other advise for a first timer in BKK is always appreaicted.

[Steve 9696]

Average massage will be 200-300 baht per HR in Bangkok. Oil massage will usually cost about 300-500. This is what they normally want you to get if you want full service (sex). If there is no written price above 2000, you will need to negotiate with the girl. If you had more time, I'd suggest negotiating down to 1000-1500 for the girl. Since you're only staying 5 days, with wife in tow, I think you'll have an easy time with 2000.

The massage shops with prices listed at above 2000 usually include full service and body to body massage. If you want, you can confirm with the receptionist. There's always a receptionist / mamasan to welcome you and ask you who you want. Make sure to tell her you want to see the ladies first. She'll bring them out and give you a lineup. Feel free to walk out if you don't see anything you like.

If you read through this forum, you should see a soi (street) with a bunch of full service massage shops. Maybe soi 26 near prom phong bts station.While you can go regular massage seems like you have coin and should try the bigger nicer places with a full Nuru or soapy experience. Poseidon. Daisy dream (haven't tried. Looks good). Clearly gogos and fwifans are non starters since you can't bring a girl back. Def stick to massage joints.

[Lcale1982]

While you can go regular massage seems like you have coin and should try the bigger nicer places with a full Nuru or soapy experience. Poseidon. Daisy dream (haven't tried. Looks good). Clearly gogos and fwifans are non starters since you can't bring a girl back. Def stick to massage joints.Some gogos had short time rooms nearby or could have been pattaya when I did that. Possible beer bars w / rooms nearby too.

[SinfullyKorean]

Most gogo bar girls will know where the short time rooms are at. I think they're only about 400-500 baht.

As for fiwfans, it's usually an incall setup. So you're going to their location.


While you can go regular massage seems like you have coin and should try the bigger nicer places with a full Nuru or soapy experience. Poseidon. Daisy dream (haven't tried. Looks good). Clearly gogos and fwifans are non starters since you can't bring a girl back. Def stick to massage joints.

[Steve 9696]

Most gogo bar girls will know where the short time rooms are at. I think they're only about 400-500 baht.

As for fiwfans, it's usually an incall setup. So you're going to their location.True and accurate. I'm just thinking with the wife and the fact that he's staying at the Conrad go least fuss and risk possible. Go survey the merchandise. Point and pick. Fuck on site. Good news is there are multiple options but that seems the most foolproof.

[Newton York]

Hmmm. Even though this forum exists for talking about chicks we'd like to fuck, weirdly everyone is talking about Indian fellas? Uh. Ok I might as well add my two cents. I remember last year on my blow out 3 week sex-travaganza trip when I was at Nana Plaza, I saw this kinda weird thing. There was this small group of dudes from the 'sub-continent', and one of them' just as he's about to walk into one of the bars, the doorman immediately barred him and said you can't go in and waved him away. I'd never seen that before. I also did observe that they do tend to travel in groups, more often than other races / nationalities. But as to the other tropes, like them being cheap, or sharing one beer between 5 guys when in a bar, I have personally never witnessed it, but then again when I'm in Bangkok I'm there for the girls, so I don't really notice what other hobbyists are doing. In my world travels, I've seen all manner of assholes be all manner of skin color. So, I don't know fellas. It's kinda weird you all be here talking about dudes, and what they may or may not be like or how they may or may not be treated like, when we should be discussing chicks. Hot, hot, sexy Thai chicks. Ok, sure, it's pretty much a given if you're a white dude, you go anywhere in the world you're worshipped like a God, that's a fact, that's how the world works, it sucks for most of the world, it's great for the lucky dudes who are white. If you're any shade of yellow, brown or darker, it's a sad reality of the human experience that you'll get discriminated against. Everyone knows this, I'm just saying the quiet part out loud. There's no use talking about how Indians are treated in Thailand, or how they have a bad reputation as tourists. If you really want to get into it, then this full faced tattoo fella might be your cup of tea, cause he really, really likes to talk about how Indian people are, and he gets to say all that and more cause drumroll. He's Indian himself. *.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiQu6r_9QPk

I don't know though fellas,*I'll leave it to you guys to judge. Since everyone here is so fascinated by Indian fellas in Thailand let's keep the conversation going. The dude does have almost 60 k subscribers, based on what I know about Youtube, that and his view count, he could conceivably make around 2 grand a month. Not bad for someone living in Thailand. *.

It's a sad reality of literal millennia of human history that people of darker complexions get treated like shit. Yes, Indians do have a certain reputation, but so do all other*peoples. I don't want to talk about sad stuff dudes, let's focus on the chicks man. Which babes in what bars, massage places have you seen recently? Was she good? How much was she? Stuff like that. Let's talk about*that cool stuff. Man, I went through hell in South East Asia decades ago for my country, I'm just old and tired now. Old and desperate, I finally succumbed and went to a massage joint for some sex here in the sexual wasteland that's the good ol' USA, and man oh man, the amount of money I paid for a very subpar experience I coulda gotten three 90 minute really good sessions in Bangkok. Makes me want to unlife myself. Not one to give up so easily I walked down a few blocks and found another joint where no sex was provided, but the HJ was great, and I got to suck on some titties. You guys are so lucky to be in Bangkok you know that? Instead of trolling each other, talking shit about people from other parts of the world, let's focus on giving good, decent, detailed reports on what matters most. Chicks. *.

So. To the chicks. Again, it's good to know Haru (now known as BB) is still around. As much as I like Noey I like her better cause she let me do more stuff. I like how they spelled their website as "Bangkak" instead of Bangkok, makes it so much easier to find online. God knows there must be a million 'smile massages' in Bangkok. I wonder why so many left BKK Happy and moved there? Don't matter. So long as they're still around for God knows when I can make it back. I'm in the midst of securing some income, will try to work these weary bones so I can make me some cash, so that if the world doesn't implode by 2025, maybe, just maybe I can make it back. Man oh man, I hope those same girls will still be around by then, I know it's a long shot, they move around quite a lot. *.

I first noticed the whole BBFS thing from butterfly some months ago, and I've only ever seen*it on one other site. But I wouldn't be surprised if other sites start stating it. I think it's something that's picking up in Thailand, I know it's always been there, kinda under the radar where you arrange with the chick if she's cool with it for extra cash, but to see it out in the open on websites, that's kinda unusual for Thailand. I myself have never actively pursued it in Thailand, but yes I've been offered it. And believe*you me, I've been tempted. I mentioned either in this forum or another one that I did succumb years ago with a chick here. By the time I went to see her again the 2nd, 3rd time, etc, all pretense of the condom was out the door, it was like being with a hot, sexy girlfriend that just wanted your seed inside her. But alas, the chicks here aren't affordable anymore. Not that they were that affordable to begin with years ago. By the time I left the game here in the northeast, it was already 200 bucks a pop. Now? It's damn near 400 bucks. Jesus wept. 400 US Dollars? You got to be kidding me. Want to blame Japanese people for upping the average price of girls in Thailand? How about blame*the idiot Wall Street types for causing hot*chicks in most big cities to cost so much. Thank God for local 'privats' in cities like Prague. You can at least still get hot babes for about 100 bucks there, no guarantee on service, but ain't it worse if you pay more and the service still sucks? At least in Thailand, if you walk away from a subpar session, you can*just tell yourself "oh well, at least it didn't cost so much". She was great though, still remember her name to this day. I know. I know I can find someone like her in Bangkok at a fraction of what I paid here in the states, but even without a condom, my dick just doesn't want to cooperate no more, I absolutely need pharmaceutical assistance, and with all the travels I've done, Thailand's the only place in the world where I've found said pharmaceutical help that works best for me, sans prescription too. I'm an old man fellas. *.

Why aren't there more Ukrainian girls in Thailand now with all that's been happening? Want to talk about reputations though, I hear that Ukrainian girls are expensive and have a pretty high and mighty type attitude compared to their eastern, central european counterparts. Then again, maybe not. I'm way too lazy to go over my own old reviews, but it could have been a Ukrainian chick I fucked back in Prague that one time, and she was super sweet. See fellas, shouldn't brush everyone with a single stroke. Ok fine, who cares about how dudes are anyway, but I always contend that chicks from all over the world are worth fucking if they're sweet. To hell with perceived tropes and reputations. I mean, I'll be upfront with ya'll, I too avoid Air India, apparently people from the subcontinent have an effect on one's olfactory organs, but if Priya Price (I know she's not actually Indian, but who cares) or Priya Rai was standing in front of me buck naked, ready to fuck, I sure as hell ain't going to say no, ha!*.

Ok, I've joined in the conversation to continue inane and pointless stuff. Now, let's get back to talking about girls, please someone report on a trip or something. Tell us about a hidden gem of a girl, some new massage joint we never heard of. An awesome bar girl you met. Please, report on that. I can say all this cause I freakin' contributed, I always do, just look back on all my reports from all over the world. And you can be damn sure if I'm still alive long enough for another Bangkok trip, I'll report it alright. *.

[Newton York]

What you're describing kinda sounds like an escort you'd get for a day or 2. I did something like back in one of my past Bangkok trips. Got the chick for a day, spend some time doing touristy stuff, she took me to 'Asiatique', who knew Bangkok had a big ferris wheel type place, went back to my hotel, fucked, etc. I got her again for another day the next week, but sure I coulda paid her for 2 days in a row. If you're talking about those websites where you pay a local to show you around, I think they screen for that stuff, cause they don't want to be messing around with prostitution. Yeah man, just get an escort for 2 days. Or better yet, get a different one for each day.


I am from India and travelling to Bangkok next month. I'the like some guidance from seniors from Thailand / Bangkok if there's an option like "rent a girlfriend concept" like in Japan for sightseeing and few extra service for a period of 2 days.

And is it good to explore MR to find chicks for FS or wander out in walking street and avoid inviting girls in hotel.

My stay will be short 2-3 days max and would like to explore Thai lifestyle and also explore the chicks around.

[Newton York]

I've been to Sharks! Pre-Covid days of course, I still remember my train ride from Frankfurt to Darmsdat and took a cab to the place. It was years ago, but I recall it was good.

I too second this fiwfans thing, I think if you're limited on time, just walk into places like those in Phrom Phong or Huai Kwang. Talent is there for you to choose, and there's kinda enough reviews out there in forums to be able to identify the talented girls.


Bad homburg is a cool little place with very nice parks and some baths and some cheap hotels I really enjoyed it. Hang out and relax during the day then hit Oase at night.

I think I'm going to go to darmstadt and do sharks.

But back on topic I was bored yesterday and finally up and running after coming back from Cambodia and about 2 weeks of wanking since Siem Reap is not a mongers heaven. So I played with Fiwfans and ended up schlepping around near Suttisan MRT to bang some girl that didn't look like her picture. I was so deep into the back sois during rush hour that I just did it anyway, and it was a girl I never would have picked out in person. But it was something to do, and later on that night I smashed one of my regulars just to do a twofer. That takes care of my needs until I leave Bangkok next week.

If you are a visitor here, I would pay no attention to Fiwfans at all. Firstly, you're never going to get a guarantee that what you see is what you get. The girl I did had reviews, and still didn't look like her pictures. But by the time you figure that out, you're going to be in an area that will probably scare the shit out of you if you've never been to Thailand before, ie poor lighting, insane drivers, busted sidewalks, etc.

And it's no bargain besides, my cab ride after the deed down to Asoke was 280 baht. And that's on the meter, with my resident's ability to grab a cab for a trip like that on the meter from the back soi when you're the only white dude around. If you're a rookie, you're going to get murdered.

I'm sure I'll use Fiwfans in the future, but I will confess to my mistake which was doing it around rush hour. I'll also try to pick a girl in and more accessible area. But quite frankly, for me, it's easier just to pick my fat ass up off the couch, put the bong down, and roll down to the circus.

[Newton York]

I think it depends on the place where they work, at best it's once every few months. On their own, not regularly. Heck, for a lot of them, they don't go for a yearly check up, cause it is what it is. If they could afford a better life where regular check ups was a thing, they wouldn't be fucking us. Sad but true. Then again, I've met a lot of people here in the states that can more than afford a regular check up, but won't do it until they have a heart attack, ha!


Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?

[Newton York]

What you say is true dude. In my interactions with chicks in Thailand, when the conversation goes onto their experiences with other customers from around the world, in every instance, every girl I've met and I've met many in Bangkok, said they don't like Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, etc. They throw in something called 'malays' as well, plus arabs. Them's the way the cookie crumbles. They would state stuff like those dudes are disrespectful, cheap, borderline violent, hairy, etc. First up, regardless of your skin color, always be a gentlemen with these chicks, God knows their life ain't exactly a bed of roses since they're out there fucking us! And, for the love of God fellas, shave yourself down there. Every girl I've met, not just in Thailand, but everywhere, appreciates smooth and clean plumbing on which they can ply their trade. Granted, some Thai girls don't shave down there too, and I don't like that, but most Thai girls, do have it shaved or tastefully trimmed. It ain't your fault dude that your peoples are perceived like that, but you do what you can. Say, quick question dude, I saw this fascinating documentary about the caste system in India, how true is that in this day and age? Man, that is something, 3 thousand year old tradition of defining people by birth. I know life sucks here for a lot of people in the states, but for the lowest caste in India, it sounds like a real living hell.


Disclaimer: This post doesn't mean to offend anyone of caste, creed, colour or religion. It is based on my personal experience and observations as an Indian tourist mongering in Bangkok. Sent from phone: please excuse, brevity and any typos.

So I have been long wanting to travel to Bangkok from India for obvious reasons and made full use of this forum to find best massage parlours, go-go bars and of course the most suited accommodation. I am returning today as I type this post and here's what I learnt that maybe more relevant and useful for fellow Indians and Bangladeshis whom I saw in good numbers.

My Stay: After doing a thorough research I booked my stay in Ruamchitt Plaza hotel which is close to Asoke (Soi Cowboy) and Nana Plaza famous for bars like Spankey's where girls dance topless showing attractive breasts. Positives of Ruamchitt was that the hotel was clean and I only paid 5000 baht for 4 nights including breakfast. Of course the famous Thermae bar is sitting right at the bottom of the hotel. To add, hotel is close to Terminal 21 if one needs to shop and to many eateries where one can find all kinds of food including Indian options. There is a currency exchange counter right at the entrance of the hotel offering best exchange rate on dollar (35.13 baht) when I left.

Day 1: I reach the hotel by 6.30 in the evening though my Indigo flight landed Suvarnabhumi around 4. 30 pm. I had applied for E-Visa on Arrival so that was time saving. I had made bookings for KK at Wonder Massage when my flight was taking off from India. Earlier, I also tried to book Pam from Doki Doki, Kitty from Bunny Massage and Alice from Momo massage but heard from their managers that these girls were away. Coordination and booking with Wonder Massage happened over line app and it was a breeze.

So finally, there I am at Wonder Massage (8 minutes walk from my hotel) and I greet KK who is dark and attractive with amazing natural figure and big curvy boobs with perfect pointy nipples (kind I like). I booked Nuru Massage for 3000 baht for 60 minutes but the Jacuzzi was not worth it. The boob rub on the back felt nice but I should have taken a standard room just to enjoy this girl and that would have saved 500-700 baht for me. Sex was amazing because I was instantly attracted to her and I kind of eased her into a conversation as suggested by a fellow monger which opened the communication doors for us. She speaks broken English but it's much better than many Thai girls and she can be very chatty once you start asking her questions. But make sure to strike the right balance because she herself said she is a lazy person and at times she would stop massaging and only chitchat. Her massage wasn't great but f**ing her was. So that should be your sole aim.

After a long journey and having a good time I thought I will crash but I was amazed with my own stamina and will to explore so next I walked to Nana Plaza. I had heard about the girls dancing topless in Spankey's so I only entered there though there were options like Billboard and Butterfly. Got a drink for 200 baht and liked one of the dancing girls. So asked the waitress to call her and sit in the last row corner seat. Spankey's is a small bar and the there's lot of action happening on the dance floor. Most men sit in the front to watch girls up close but when you buy a drink for a girl and sit in corner seat of back row that's when you can feel the girl and enjoy the moment- both on the floor and in the lap or next to you. Luckily, my girl was tired after dancing, and she took this as break. She took 30 minutes to finish her drink so even though the waitress wasn't happy I kept pushing her back saying the drink is still not finished. The girl probably thought I will barfine but I had no intentions of spending 4000 baht on that. So, after having a great time with her I left Spankey's after 50 minutes. Yes folks! In just 400 baht I had the privilege to enjoy the naked dance and the girl which was totally worth it.

Bangkok is extremely humid and sultry, so I thought I am done for the day! Oh, but wait! When I reached my hotel, I was extremely curious to check out the Thermae bar. It was already 11.30 pm by then. I picked up a lady, but I will talk about it in details later.

Day 2: I was curious to know about sandwich nuru massage and I booked Nana and Wawa at Ola Ola massage at 10.30 am. It was 10 minutes walk from my hotel. My first preference were Patty and Whisky but both were away hence Nana and Wawa. I chose a 90 minutes nuru massage package which was a big home (6000 baht for 4 shots) in my pocket. I negotiated but there were no discounts and I was only offered Jacuzzi as extra complimentary which otherwise was priced 500 baht extra. Very clever! Anyways Nana was young and had a great body and boobs. Wawa looked much older than the photograph that was shown but they tried their best to please me. Again the boobs felt nice on my back and they had a nuru mat and then a Jacuzzi. I enjoyed the whole experience but it was nothing close to one watches in porn. So best is to avoid it and save money! The two girls tried talking to me and were not chitchatting between themselves which was my fear. I had sex with both of them for which I had to change condoms. First with Wawa but she was slightly old and had put on weight. So preferred to have sex with Nana and cum. The session ended with 2nd shot being a handjob from Wawa as Nana licked my ears and I played with her nipples.

After the morning experience I slept for some time, went to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy and got a drink. But these places are very different from Nana and I walked out after 20 minutes as girls were only interested in Japanese and Korean men.

At night, went to Thermar again and picked up a girl. Details later.

Day 3: Was bored of usual stuff so went to Analisa massage in the afternoon. Booked Luna for a 60 minutes of Tantric massage which was a mix of sensual massage, massaging my balls and dick, prostate massage and BJ and HJ. It costed my 2100 baht. Luna was extremely proficient in her communication and spoke good English. She didn't indugle I'm any conversation from her side though but patiently answered all my questions- a trick that I usually use to be friendly with girls. She's been with the establishment for 5 years and is extremely good with the massage. I paid for that I enjoyed it to the max. But Prostate Massage where she puts a finger inside your butthole and strokes your dick with another hand is not my kind of thing. Better to avoid it! But after 60 minutes of stroking my dick and balls, BJ (only with condom atleast in this place) and finally HJ l, I came like how! Great experience!

Day 1,2,3- Decoding Thermae Bar.

Ok, so here are some observations and tips not limited to Thermae but overall 'boom boom' scene in Bangkok.

1) Indians and Bangladeshis and others of darker skin colour are not preferred by Thai girls / ladies. In short, we are not their first choice. The reason I felt is because the way Indian bald uncle's with their round tummies, bermudas and chappals walk in and treat the girls is not appreciated. The young Indian muscular dudes with their beards and buffed up bodies could be desirable in India but the girls here call us 'King-Kong' and reject us outright.

2) What do I do- Dress properly (decent Hawaiians shirts, nice pair of trousers+ shoes and blend in, keep a clean shave and always keep my smile on and hands folded to greet them whenever I pass them or look at them.

2) Thermae Bar has 4 categories of girls- 'A+' category which comes in the bar at 7. 30-8 pm and disappears in no time. 'A' type girls who are eventually taken by mostly Japanese, Koreans and finally Westeners and they are confident that they will find takers. Now the 'be' type girls is what I am interested in. They could be slightly old (age group of 30-35), decent looking but certainly not bombshells or are desperate for money because they just need it. So the trick is to reach Thermae around 11.30 pm, buy a drink (I usually take Pineapple juice for 80 baht) and then take a round to find your prey- The 'be' type girls and then take a convinent spot and wait till 12 to see what happens. The bar shuts at 1 am and all the leftover girls at that time are now in a hurry to find customers and make their effort productive. That's when you start polite conversation by asking their name. Tell them you are here for these many number of days and are staying upstairs in the same hotel (4 nights in my case). The going rate for all girls is 3000 baht at the moment but when you mention that you sare staying in the same hotel they quote 2500 baht. Here's when I tell them I can only offer 1500 baht for short time (one shot and 40 minutes). I have managed to get three different girls on 3 nights so far.

First lady- Miss Lucky who was 35 years old and slightly plump was quite fun. She did a booty dance for me, we bathed together, I went down on her and sex was good in different positions.

Second girl was average looking and young and felt like she needed money. She approached me and we cut the same deal. I went down on her, she came and sex was decent.

Third lady Miss Pia was about 32 years, very fair and great body. She went down on me and we actually came together while having sex. No kidding! The orgasm looked real unless she is super good at faking it. Same deal.

With all the above three girls / ladies, I offered them water, toffees and chocolates that I had and also gave them extra Japanese condoms- Okamoto that I got from India and are not that expensive. But all these things made them happy and receptive.

So in conclusion, Thai girls are drawn to Japanese and Koreans (from all age groups but more to young guys whom I saw in plenty) at Thermae. They are comfortable with them maybe for their fair colour and looks, trendy styles, better manners and the fact that they don't haggle (which in my view is stupid and is making the girls greedy). There were instances when I approached an 'A' category despite them showing no interest in me (as in refusing to look in my eye for more than few seconds, or smile or they would simply look away) but when they would refuse any offer below 3000 baht that's an indication for you that they are just not interested. And I think that's fair and no offence taken!

Sorry the post is longish but hope you find it useful!

[Newton York]

Oh my gawd dude, if you like that, then you got to go see one of the chicks I saw at Thermae. To me, I had a terrible time, but you'll find her in one of my old reports from last year, I don't remember her name right now off the top of my head, but service wasn't good, and her Bush was just lousy hairy. The kind of hairy that yes, you can fuck, but there's no feasible way to eat her out. Just no way, but since you like that stuff, I would recommend her to you.


You have inadvertently given me a recommendation. I am always on the lookout for big Bush girls (my particular fetish). The phone usage and possible fishiness are a worry though.

BTW if anyone is looking for a small bar with a chilled vibe and 70's to 80's music that doesn't blow up your eardrums, try Sexy Night in Nana Plaza. A good place for a bit of a mood change from the full on-ness of Billboard.

[Newton York]

Yes, there's no way better to sum it all up. If you're white, you can look like freakin' Danny Devito, chicks in Asia, South America and Africa are going to be all over you. Nobody's going to know if you're rich anyway, so long as you have enough cash. And if you're white, you're basically 'western' to everyone else in the world, doesn't matter if you're from the Siberian heartland. I remember this sad sack of a dude who was from Greece, second generation American, and he was bitchin' to me that he couldn't get chicks here in the states, cause he does look like shit, and I told him, see'Mon. Dude, I look like shit too, but I'm drowning in pussy, you know why? Cause I go to Thailand! Oh my gawd. Anyway, moron got saddled with an okay looking eastern european chick who already had a kid with some other guy. Another idiot who got saddled with some other guy's kid, just so he can have sex. Believe you me, I've fucked my fair share of eastern european chicks here looking to stay in the country, and yeah, I'll fuck them', sure as hell ain't going to marry them'.

So yes, long story short, you want to pick up chicks in Thailand? You don't even need to be rich or handsome, you just got to be white. Oh my God dudes, have you seen how many old, fat, balding, decrepit, half-dead, can hardly walk Danny Devito type white guys waddling around Thailand with young Thai chicks? I don't get it either, but this is the place for me to get laid cause Thai chicks have really low standards for the guys they fuck. And I'm a fat, ugly old guy! I fit the bill!


Be handsome, rich, and Western.

[Newton York]

Sadly, I didn't do the Huay Kwang soapies on my last trip, I just did oilies. I know what you mean, lot going around about the decline of them soapies. But last I heard, Nataree was back in the form of 'Little Duck'. Try as I might, I have not found any reviews about it anywhere, and I wonder if that too is closed. It's the same building and everything. I meant to try some soapies when I was in Bangkok last year, I mean I was there for 3 weeks, but man, I was just too busy with the oilies and massage places in sukhumvit, phrom phong, etc. Yeah, I know with Grab, Huay Kwang is easy to get to, but it still kinda 'feels' too far. On my trip to Thailand a number of years ago, I did experience Emmanuelle, and it was ok.

Yeah, a lot of the oilies in Sukhumvit and Phrom Phong have chicks in their 20's. Not exactly fishbowl like the soapies, but definitely a line up. Sadly, I have never tried fiwfans, but I have tried escorts, not from smoochi, but direct from the agencies, and at best it's hit or miss. And believe you me, they don't look the photos. I'd say maybe 1 out of every 3 kinda look like their photos. I wrote up on one of my reviews from last year on how this one chick from an escort agency, she looked almost nothing like her photo, it was borderline disastrous. Enough you could tell it was the same chick, but oh my gawd she was terrible looking in real life. I've had enough experiences, that I'm a little averse to finding chicks on the internet, be it fiwfans or smoochi or escort sites, at least with real life line ups, whatever the service may be, you can see what she actually looks like.


I used to live in Bangkok during the glory days of Nataree. Those were incredible times, I was there multiple times every week and the selection was abundant and never ending. Perhaps some of the most freshest, most beautiful girls I will ever have the opportunity to meet. So sad that Nataree is gone. La Belle, Colonze 2, and La Defense were occasionally decent too.

I am going to visit Bangkok later this month. I have not been back in Thailand since the pandemic, and I am certain things have changed. I've been reading through the posts here, and it seems like the happy days of the soapies is gone forever.

What's the best way to find fresh talent nowadays? Is it all online through FiwFans and Smoochi? Are there still places with a fishbowl and lineup that has girls in their early twenties?

I've been reading through the posts and it feels like the only good option nowadays is Fiwfans?

[Newton York]

I will forever be curious about them deaf girls in front of Nana Plaza. Some of them were pretty hot, and there's something sexy about them' when they sign language to each other. Like any good hobbyist, I strive to fuck all kinds of girls. Young and hot, hot MILF types, every color, creed and nationality, pussy is pussy. Hot is hot. But I have never fucked a deaf girl. And of course Thailand is where you can get some. I wonder. I really wonder. Man, I got to try next time, but it's so out of my wheelhouse. I know, I know, it's a transaction like any other, but there's something sweet and vulnerable about them' you know, like you want to protect them and take care of them and stuff. You older fellas might remember that movie from the 80's 'Children of a lesser god' starring deaf super babe Marlee Matlin. Man, I had such a huge crush on her. Yeah, I bet fuckin' a deaf chick would be really hot. Cause they got that whole different way of vocalizing, yeah, I bet it'll be really sexy. Anybody here ever fucked the deaf girls in front of Nana, please share, thanks dudes!

[Newton York]

When it comes to getting around Bangkok, I have just one word for you: GRAB.

Back in the dark ages before Grab, you got around with the relatively new at the time subway and metro, and God forbid if you fell into the nightmare known as the Bangkok taxi. And yeah, you could take the tuk-tuks, they still try to rip you off, but it will still be relatively cheap depending on what currency you brought in. But in this golden age of Grab, where you not only see who the driver is on your phone and their reviews, but you get the price quoted to you before you get in the vehicle and you can pay cash at the end of the trip, and they even give you your change back (just tip them the change). I almost exclusively used Grab on my 3 week trip last year, went all over to Bangkok's touristy spots, and it was so easy. And affordable. What taxis cost in the rest of the world, Grab in Bangkok is cheap by comparison. Gawd, I miss Bangkok. You fellas that get to be in Bangkok all the time, appreciate what you have. You have no idea how lucky you are. Bangkok is paradise, heaven on earth.


I recently had a quite of wait for my flight coming from outside Bangkok to BKK, so I dumped my bag in storage for 150 THB at the airport. After checking options close by I decided on Lovely Spa in Minburi. I knew how traffic is midday and toward school closure I would have taken a motorbike taxi. Not sure however where to find one in BKK but maybe head to Novotel or something and order them to pick there.

Fairly small place and six ladies with primarily 6-7 looks but overall young. It will definitely help if you speak some Thai since there wasn't much English. Think cost was around 2800 THB but had to check beforehand if sex was on the table. Not sure if this is common? Either way service level was good even if massage is a bit piano so will consider going again. The driver back decided to not take the paid express and despite heavy traffic it went smoothly. But I would like to ask is there any other options worthwhile exploring around Suvarnabhumi? I will have a few more rounds at the airport this year.

[Montecristo]

So yes, long story short, you want to pick up chicks in Thailand? You don't even need to be rich or handsome, you just got to be white. You might consider Thermae as the exception to this rule.

[Werqweq]

Those that are fan of Thai massage, rather than that greasy oil alternative, may have ran into something called "nuad kasai", which to the less educated of us basically means ball/testicle massage.

Up on till yesterday I've been thinking there isn't all that much to this, except a slightly glorified wankjob. I have on occasion though met women who more obviously than others knew what they were doing, the best being a woman in Chiang Mai some 10 years ago. She obviously knew very well what she was doing, could explain it was to improve circulation and give more power, but I've never met anyone like that again.

Yesterday I was however wandering down Sukhumvit soi 33, looking for an at least somewhat pleasant looking woman for Thai massage. After a while I got the usual handjob offer (I have my own hand, thank you), which doesn't interest me much, and she wouldn't do BJ. We chatted a bit and somehow she mentioned "nuad kasai" ("nuad" means massage, "kasai" I had until yesterday been guessing means testicles, but now I'm guessing it means genitals, since she mentioned it can be done on women too).
Joking some more about this, she showed me her course certificate for completing a two day course in ball massage, which I display for my brothers amusement here.

Now, the woman herself said she was not very good at it beforehand, which turned out to be right, but I figured that if she has a license/diploma, it might at least be interesting.
Cost was 500 baht, though make sure you agree on this beforehand. She said if I wanted to shoot my shot too, it would be 1000 in total. Obviously taking the mickey of me, and I would not agree to pay more than 500, handjob and ballmassage included, but since I was only interested in the massage, I didn't care what she wanted to add a handjob.

She mentioned if I go to a hospital where they teach it, the location of which she showed me on google maps, it cost 2,500 per hour. I'm half tempted to go there just for an amusing experience, but I don't want to end up in the newspapers as "crazy farang goes to hospital looking for ball massage", as I don't really have any idea what part of the hospital it's on (reproductive problems would be my guess, but even then ...). She said both men and women go there.


Anyway, if anyone wants to try the shop is on Sukhumvit soi 33, name Kyoto massage. The woman's name is Da, around 30. The Thai massage was good, the ball massage was better than many other experiences, but if the woman in Chiang Mai was 10/10, this was only 6/10. Most others would have only been 3-4/10 though.

Book Thai massage (650 for two hours), then tell her in the cubicle you want "nuad kasai". Perhaps show her the diploma on your phone if she cannot understand your pronunciation.

[Lcale1982]

You might consider Thermae as the exception to this rule.LOL yea, I remember my last trip there a white guy was coming back to the middle where his friend was waiting and told him rejected again. Then "This is the only time I wish I wasnt white" haha.

[Chan Chalupa]

Time to Rate the Nana Plaza deaf girls.

I'd rate them Small and Not That Appealing. Usually Dark which doesn't help Thier Cause.

[Nyezhov]

I will forever be curious about them deaf girls in front of Nana Plaza. Some of them were pretty hot, and there's something sexy about them' when they sign language to each other. Like any good hobbyist, I strive to fuck all kinds of girls. Young and hot, hot MILF types, every color, creed and nationality, pussy is pussy. Hot is hot. But I have never fucked a deaf girl. And of course Thailand is where you can get some. I wonder. I really wonder. Man, I got to try next time, but it's so out of my wheelhouse. I know, I know, it's a transaction like any other, but there's something sweet and vulnerable about them' you know, like you want to protect them and take care of them and stuff. You older fellas might remember that movie from the 80's 'Children of a lesser god' starring deaf super babe Marlee Matlin. Man, I had such a huge crush on her. Yeah, I bet fuckin' a deaf chick would be really hot. Cause they got that whole different way of vocalizing, yeah, I bet it'll be really sexy. Anybody here ever fucked the deaf girls in front of Nana, please share, thanks dudes!I've banged one. It's fucking a quiet chick. No Japanese squealing is okay too.

[Nyezhov]

You might consider Thermae as the exception to this rule.Not for me. But maybe I'm just an exceptional white guy.

[EihTooms]

I will forever be curious about them deaf girls in front of Nana Plaza. Some of them were pretty hot, and there's something sexy about them' when they sign language to each other. Like any good hobbyist, I strive to fuck all kinds of girls. Young and hot, hot MILF types, every color, creed and nationality, pussy is pussy. Hot is hot. But I have never fucked a deaf girl. And of course Thailand is where you can get some. I wonder. I really wonder. Man, I got to try next time, but it's so out of my wheelhouse. I know, I know, it's a transaction like any other, but there's something sweet and vulnerable about them' you know, like you want to protect them and take care of them and stuff. You older fellas might remember that movie from the 80's 'Children of a lesser god' starring deaf super babe Marlee Matlin. Man, I had such a huge crush on her. Yeah, I bet fuckin' a deaf chick would be really hot. Cause they got that whole different way of vocalizing, yeah, I bet it'll be really sexy. Anybody here ever fucked the deaf girls in front of Nana, please share, thanks dudes!Sure. I have taken 3 of them over the years. Last one was about 2 years ago. Of those three, one gave great service, exactly what I wanted and negotiated for. They show your the sales pitch for how long is short time and how much baht on their smartphone. So if you want more info or stated requirements than that, have your smartphone at the ready too. But she was apparently just passing through, was only there for a week or so.

The other 2 were disasters.

At crunch time, one pulled a switcheroo in the room, claimed her texted agreement for "no condom ok", exactly the way it is stated on the escort or massage shop service sites we discussed recently, BTW, was misunderstood. "NO! I meant if YOU have no condom it is ok because, see, I have one. No condom, no sex"!

She wasn't the first Thai girl who came up with that one or something similar at crunch time. LOL. Now you know why I think it is important and better if the site clarifies and uses more conventional terms for Real Sex Without a Condom so the service owners, the girls and the customers are all on the same sheet of music about what is on offer with no confusion about it.

Anyway, back to the deaf girl who pulled that Me Thai, Me No Understand "no condom" bit.

My counter switcheroo was "Oh, I see. Then thanks for your time, getting naked and taking a shower. Here is 100 baht for that and a taxi. Bye. ".

The third one kept her agreement for BBFS+CIP all the way to the point of entry but, damn, she was so dull in bed up to that moment, a total rag doll and her pursed lips, grimacing and lock jaw head turns to avoid any passing glance at a kiss was such a turn off I just decided to abort the mission and save my squirt for a much better girl.

Since I had neglected to mention anything about DFK in our little smartphone negotiation after she so readily agreed to BBFS+CIP, I did not reduce the agreed upon fee of 1500 baht.

I still see her around sometimes and every time I pass by she reaches out to stop me, begging me to take her again, pointing to her lips to suggest she will be better for me next time. I doubt I will ever give her a next time.

I got very close to taking one of the better looking ones there in the past year or so. Got her Line from my perch at the lookout point bar area in Hooters after she kept turning around to smile at me, then mock sad face suggesting I really should take her because "no customer". There was some back and forth until it came to her demand for 5,000 baht for short time if I wanted BBFS+CIP. I thought that was way too much for her so I declined. Not worth my time, squirt or money.

As always, YMMV.

The different thing about fucking a deaf girl is that they have never heard the sound of pleasure as vocalized by a person having sex. So the sounds coming out of their mouth during DATY or fucking is about as natural, animalistic and sincere as it gets I suppose.

[Zam007]

Can any boots on the ground speak to the TF / Online situation right now in BKK?



I think tourism numbers perhaps are down from this time last year and the economic situation must be worse for Thais in general.

It's definitely not down. I know people in the city who claim it's almost back to pre-pandemic levels. One person I know claims that he feels the numbers are even higher than they used to be in 2019.

If you look at the cost of hotels / rooms, they have shot up like crazy.

[Zam007]

I am from India and travelling to Bangkok next month. I'the like some guidance from seniors from Thailand / Bangkok if there's an option like "rent a girlfriend concept" like in Japan for sightseeing and few extra service for a period of 2 days.

And is it good to explore MR to find chicks for FS or wander out in walking street and avoid inviting girls in hotel.

My stay will be short 2-3 days max and would like to explore Thai lifestyle and also explore the chicks around.Check out smooci.com.

[BlueKangaroo]

When it comes to getting around Bangkok, I have just one word for you: GRAB.

Back in the dark ages before Grab, you got around with the relatively new at the time subway and metro, and God forbid if you fell into the nightmare known as the Bangkok taxi. And yeah, you could take the tuk-tuks, they still try to rip you off, but it will still be relatively cheap depending on what currency you brought in. But in this golden age of Grab, where you not only see who the driver is on your phone and their reviews, but you get the price quoted to you before you get in the vehicle and you can pay cash at the end of the trip, and they even give you your change back (just tip them the change). I almost exclusively used Grab on my 3 week trip last year, went all over to Bangkok's touristy spots, and it was so easy. And affordable. What taxis cost in the rest of the world, Grab in Bangkok is cheap by comparison. Gawd, I miss Bangkok. You fellas that get to be in Bangkok all the time, appreciate what you have. You have no idea how lucky you are. Bangkok is paradise, heaven on earth.Prior to the pandemic I would 100% agree with this, but this year during my recent trip, I found that in some cases Grab costs more than taxis, presumably due to peak / non-peak hours.

The main reason I avoided taxis is because they love to gouge you with fixed prices instead of using the meter. This year, traffic felt especially bad, or maybe I forgot how bad Bangkok traffic was, which meant that waiting for a Grab was annoying because they'd be so close on the map but because of the jam, they'd take forever to reach. So this year we used a mix of Grab and taxis, like once we were leaving Jodd Fair and we just asked a taxi how much back to our hotel and he quoted us 200 thb, whereas Grab quoted 250 thb, so it was a no-brainer.

My theory is that maybe taxis are feeling the impact of Grab and in some cases, might even undercut them. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on the taxi driver, but you can always do a quick search on Grab to see how much they charge and then see if the taxi charges you less, maybe even try and haggle. But at least Grab is an option now and you no longer have to fight taxi drivers and insist they use the meter.

[Member #4782]

Part 1: I was in Thailand during June and July and wanted to contribute with reports. This isn't my first time in Thailand, but this was first full on, serious, every day mongering. I'm in my 20's, European, I'm going from memory what I remember the most, this is my Bangkok report.

First stop of my trip I spent staying in Soi 4 really close to Nana Plaza. I don't drink, or smoke, or don't have any intentions in sitting whole day in a bar every day. So I found that street to be terrible place to stay. You have to be a really specific type of the person to stay there. And I'm simply not that. I spent my days exploring Bangkok, and nights mongering. Please keep in mind while reading that on the start of the trip I was a complete beginner in mongering. Also. I do FS covered every time, so If I don't mention it explicitly. You can assume that.

During the night there are a lot of freelancers on the whole street, some Thai, some Vietnamese, some African. I've tried 3 or 4 girls from the street. But I didn't find the experience worth it. I paid at most 2000ST for those freelancers, 1500ST for older ones. Every time girls where either starfishes or I didn't like their attitude. They all did the deed like we agreed Covered FS, BBJ, Cum on Body. Lesson #1 - I like some conversation and fun with girls before fucking, so I didn't enjoy those encounters. You can see from the lack of details how un memorable the whole thing was. Definitely do not recommend. I'm not sure what market price. But I definitely felt like I overpaid.

I read about Kasalong and Lolitas. And one day I went into Kasalong. And basically don't ever go. It's the most shittiest places ever imagineable. Simply don't go there guys. Ugly girls, ugly place. Only good thing about both is that you can come there. See that it's shit. And go have a meal in restaurants close by in Soi 8 - which are unexpectedly excellent.

I was in Nana plaza for 3-4 times. And I simply could not make myself comfortable there, I tried few places on second floor. And they were always empty. And at that point I was still too shy to enjoy myself, and every girl I called couldn't speak any English, and at that point I barely spoke any Thai. There is a bar on 3rd floor. Which name I forget. Which was always full, and with pretty ladies. But I never took any of them. All in all. I wouldn't recommend for mongering. Only maybe for special occasions, but to be fair. I never really got into it. Only highlight I remember is seeing Korean idiots throwing ping pong balls on the stage and hoes going crazy to fetch them.

I spent some time in Soi 11, I went to the bars and clubs there, but since I wasn't drinking at that point. I could not make myself comfortable, and never took any girl from there. I did take one Vietnamese older lady from the street, she had very beautiful face, and was great conversation, but her body and service wasn't that great. Still. BBJ, Covered FS, Cum on Body, 1500ST. Although I didn't score that much in Soi11 - next time I'm in Bangkok. I'll definitely try to play the clubs more. I want to see what happens or can I maybe find some freelancers in there.

I almost forgot to say. First thing I did after landing in Bangkok was go to Tulip, because of this forum. And luckily Goff was working. And that lady is special. She's definitely older than me, but has great body, and does everything I could think of. Rooms are absolute shit in Tulip but it's ok. She showers you, BBJ, face fucking, choking her with dick, fucking her any position you want, we even tried anal. But I was too big for her. After CIM she showered me again, and gave me one of the better my massages I received in my life. I paid 2300 2 h and gave her I think 300 tip. I would definitely recommend her, that is a special lady that works very hard every minute of the time you pay her. 2600 baht for great sex AND great massage is a bargain. I went few days after that to Tulip again. And this time I simply picked first girl that was offering herself. And that wasn't a good experience. She was old enough to be my mom, and she looked like it when she got naked. Don't get me wrong. I still fucked her proper, but I want to forget that experience, I paid 2300 2 h. Lesson #2 Don't be a ***** and nervous, calm yourself down, you are paying and you choose which girl gets fucked or not. I recommend everyone to try Tulip, and make their own decision after that, but expect quality of girls look wise to be lower than anywhere else. Goff excluded.

Next I went to Thermae. And there are a lot of pretty younger looking girls there. But I didn't get that much action. I was still nervous and not confident walking in such tight space and with so many girls. I was looking for girls that look at me and smile, but very few did. I did approach 3-4 Korean looking girls, and they all looked uninterested and asked for 5000ST. Which I understood as fuck-off-farang-price. I did take one special girl, she keeps very good care of herself, goes to gym, speaks great english. And is actually great conversation. I paid her 3000ST. I took her next day after that as well, and next time I was in BKK for 1 night. I called her incall on Line. She is definitely in my top 3 girls I fucked in Thailand. She is fun, great body, fun sex, had a great conversation about life. I recommend Thermae. But next time I'm in BKK. I'll have to be more confident while walking around Thermae. And talk to more girls there.

Most of my time I spent in Soi Cowboy. Where I had the most fun in BKK all in all. I tried few different bars. But only one I felt comfortable was Crazy House. It's fun inside drinking. I even drank a few beers there. Which I normally do not do. Beers are 160 Baht or 180 Baht I think, and lady drinks are 200 Baht. Be careful with lady drinks. Depending on the girl, she will either tell you or not that she is ordering 2 drinks separate drinks - 1 shot and 1 short drink. Which means you pay 400 Baht for her drink. Most girls that I asked to come sit with me. Told me straight up about that, only one did not, you can read about her below. I paid everytime they brought me drinks. I recommend everyone to do the same. Also if your drink is empty. You are expected to buy another, waitresses will give you shit to buy another one. Because seating real estate is scarce. In total I fucked 3 girls from Crazy House. Barfine is 700, and all girls asked for 4000ST, but I paid either 3000ST or 3500ST depending on the girl. I took them to short time room at the entrance to Soi Cowboy. Next to 7/11, room is 350, but you buy 2 waters so it's 400 baht in total room. 2 of those 3 girls gave me great GFE experience, but no CIM. Third girl was a total *****, and I regret spending so much money on her. All 3 were really young and really pretty faces and great bodies. If money wasn't a thing I would be there every day, because some of them are absolute stunners. But money is a thing. So idk, make your own judgements based on your financial status, but definitely try at least once. Just make to sure to understand that after they are done with you. They are going back to the bar to work more.

I never did try anything online because I like the feeling of chase. Also no MP. Because I want to fuck girls.

Next time I'm in Bangkok. I'll definitely be more confident and less shy since I know now more about the game. I'll definitely try to go to clubs more and score normal girls and freelancers there. Also. I will be more confident in Thermae. So I can find girls whose Line I can get. For repeat incalls. Crazy house I will definitely visit a few more times to treat myself. But it's currently too expensive for every day mongering.

Part 2 coming in Pattaya Thread.

[MachchiBaba]

If you look at the cost of hotels / rooms, they have shot up like crazy.It sounds contrary or maybe lagging. Economic pundits in the US say consumer spending is down dramatically during July and headed downwards in the coming months. Next year unemployment rate in the US may go up leading to lesser consumer spend and evaporating disposable income. I suppose Thailand is not far from all this, the next few months may be the peak and after that we will likely see demand go downwards.

[HorseTrader]

Anybody here ever fucked the deaf girls in front of Nana, please share, thanks dudes!Yes, and I have positive memories of one less attractive girl who was an excellent performer in the short time room. Be ready with your smartphone translator app to chat with these girls.

Of course, deaf girls are not limited to the Nana Hotel car park area. In March I found a super attractive deaf girl on Sukhumvit at Soi 11, but her price was far too high so I moved on (3000ST initial offer dropping to 2500, if I remember). A few minutes later I decided to agree to the 2500, but by then she was walking away with another farang. You snooze, you lose.

[Chan Chalupa]

It's definitely not down. I know people in the city who claim it's almost back to pre-pandemic levels. One person I know claims that he feels the numbers are even higher than they used to be in 2019.

If you look at the cost of hotels / rooms, they have shot up like crazy.Tourism down Huge.

Pre cicada. 44,000,000 a year.

Projected 2023.25,000,000.

Per Bangkok Newspaper s.

[PayForIt]

I'm always curious about this: the vast majority of reports in the BKK thread are about the options in Nana and Soi Cowboy, Soi 11, Thermae, or occasionally TF or massage places (despite the separate thread for it). But it is quite rare (have gone back through quite a lot of pages) to see reports in Patong / Silom / Thaniya Rd etc. Is there is a reason for this? Will return in a few weeks and thought about a change. My go to is to stay on Sukhumvit (usually opt for either Sheraton Grande, Grande Centre Point at Terminal 21 or JM Marriot for ease to Nana). But I'm thinking of heading towards the River this time and checking out the Thaniya / Patong / Silom options. Would be interested in observations about this choice.

[Betong]

But I'm thinking of heading towards the River this time and checking out the Thaniya / Patong / Silom options. Would be interested in observations about this choice.You mean Patpong. Patong is in Phuket. Thaniya is basically all Japanese. You wouldn't be comfortable there even if they let you in. There is nothing on Silom proper nor down by the river. That leaves Patpong 1 and 2 . Most local expats and experienced tourists avoid Patpong which they see as a tourist trap, and it kind of is. But I'm a contrarian and I do enjoy it sometimes. There are some lovely if expensive girls there, and some good bars. My favorite is Badabing.

[Davey1965]

I'm always curious about this: the vast majority of reports in the BKK thread are about the options in Nana and Soi Cowboy, Soi 11, Thermae, or occasionally TF or massage places (despite the separate thread for it). But it is quite rare (have gone back through quite a lot of pages) to see reports in Patong / Silom / Thaniya Rd etc. Is there is a reason for this? Will return in a few weeks and thought about a change. My go to is to stay on Sukhumvit (usually opt for either Sheraton Grande, Grande Centre Point at Terminal 21 or JM Marriot for ease to Nana). But I'm thinking of heading towards the River this time and checking out the Thaniya / Patong / Silom options. Would be interested in observations about this choice.Good place if you want to spend some time at Patpong is at the Banyan Tree. Very close and daytime can be spent at Lumpini Park. Also the MRT is walking distance which you can take right to Soi Cowboy and jump on the BTS from there and hit Thonglor area or Nana. Closer to the river the prices go up.

[MachchiBaba]

You mean Patpong. Patong is in Phuket. Thaniya is basically all Japanese. You wouldn't be comfortable there even if they let you in. There is nothing on Silom proper nor down by the river. That leaves Patpong 1 and 2 . Most local expats and experienced tourists avoid Patpong which they see as a tourist trap, and it kind of is. But I'm a contrarian and I do enjoy it sometimes. There are some lovely if expensive girls there, and some good bars. My favorite is Badabing.I think the OP is talking about Silom and Patpong area and also IconSiam (other side of the river). Actually, I personally resonate with everything the OP mentioned and I have been thinking about staying at The Mandarin Oriental and discover that area. I have always stayed the Shukumvit are myself. Hyatt Erawan and sometimes at Hyatt Regency. I would love to hear experiences around Silom area quality etc. .

[MachchiBaba]

Good place if you want to spend some time at Patpong is at the Banyan Tree. Very close and daytime can be spent at Lumpini Park. Also the MRT is walking distance which you can take right to Soi Cowboy and jump on the BTS from there and hit Thonglor area or Nana. Closer to the river the prices go up.Can't really find any details on Banyan Tree. Might you please elaborate a bit on Banyan Tree, I know it is a Hotel and probably has a roof top bar.

[Werqweq]

Prior to the pandemic I would 100% agree with this, but this year during my recent trip, I found that in some cases Grab costs more than taxis, presumably due to peak / non-peak hours.

The main reason I avoided taxis is because they love to gouge you with fixed prices instead of using the meter. This year, traffic felt especially bad, or maybe I forgot how bad Bangkok traffic was, which meant that waiting for a Grab was annoying because they'd be so close on the map but because of the jam, they'd take forever to reach. So this year we used a mix of Grab and taxis, like once we were leaving Jodd Fair and we just asked a taxi how much back to our hotel and he quoted us 200 thb, whereas Grab quoted 250 thb, so it was a no-brainer.

My theory is that maybe taxis are feeling the impact of Grab and in some cases, might even undercut them. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on the taxi driver, but you can always do a quick search on Grab to see how much they charge and then see if the taxi charges you less, maybe even try and haggle. But at least Grab is an option now and you no longer have to fight taxi drivers and insist they use the meter.For those who speak a bit Thai, normal taxis are not a problem, though there are always some that try, even with native Thais. Just wait for the next taxi.

The thing about Grab is that they have several options. The most expensive one is almost always the fixed price option, which often ends up being twice (or more) as expensive as the "GrabTaxi" option. When using Grab I always use the "GrabTaxi" option, which means you pay the regular taxi meter + the 20 baht Grab surcharge.
If there is a high demand at the moment this sometimes means I have to wait a longer time though ("no drivers available at the moment"), so if in a hurry I sometimes have to use the fixed price option.

[HorseTrader]

...But it is quite rare (have gone back through quite a lot of pages) to see reports in Patong / Silom / Thaniya Rd etc. Is there is a reason for this?Last December I spent a few days in the Riverside area across the river from Iconsiam, it wasn't great. I did convince a couple of standard massage girls to do FS, but that is not standard for that area. At night time I found one small area, perhaps 30 meters, where there were a few street hookers, none of which looked doable. One night I jumped on BTS and went to Thaniya and Patpong. The Thaniya area had a lot of pretty girls, but they didn't seem interested in an old farang. The Patpong area felt like scams, including one massage place where mamasan agreed on specific price/service but the girl in the room refused. It was not a pleasant experience.

[Sammon]

Just want to know if Beergarten on soi 5-6 is open. I have many good memories with freelancers I picked up from there. Will be going to Bangkok in October

[Colin3124]

For those who speak a bit Thai, normal taxis are not a problem, though there are always some that try, even with native Thais. Just wait for the next taxi.

The thing about Grab is that they have several options. The most expensive one is almost always the fixed price option, which often ends up being twice (or more) as expensive as the "GrabTaxi" option. When using Grab I always use the "GrabTaxi" option, which means you pay the regular taxi meter + the 20 baht Grab surcharge.
If there is a high demand at the moment this sometimes means I have to wait a longer time though ("no drivers available at the moment"), so if in a hurry I sometimes have to use the fixed price option.The Grab Bike option is the deal sealer for me. It's always cheapest, and when inevitably there is a traffic jam, the driver can just weave in and out of the lanes and get you where you need to be. I can't say I've felt unsafe on one either.

[Colin3124]

I've seen places like Dream Massage which adverise I think 3000, does that include the girls tip? What is a general massage around and I assume you negociate with the girl in the shop?

I am after simlicity

I'm not dealing with a wife situation, but I also prefer simplicity so I like the massage parlor route. Arriving tomorrow and I made a booking in advance for Lily at the newly opened Smile, followed the next day by a two-lady session at Aurora 33 with Sai and May. Looking forward to being back!

To answer the other question in the post quoted, the tip is not included in the price you pay upfront at the dest at these places. 300 baht if the service is good seems to be standard, but it's up to you.

[Etaoin2003]

Just want to know if Beergarten on soi 5-6 is open. I have many good memories with freelancers I picked up from there. Will be going to Bangkok in OctoberIt's still there, on Soi 7. Very few ladies and customers these days, but it is still in operation. I believe the food menu is severely curtailed. The old "tunnel" that connected Soi 7 with Soi 5 has been replaced by a loud, shiny complex of tiny bars next door that get most of the foot traffic on that street. You can check it out on YouTube if you want.

[Kuku696]

I used to frequent BKK and Angeles city every year before Covid. Covid has certainly taken away three years of mongering enjoyment.

Finally made the trip to AC last April and things were probably 60% of what it used to be and the Perimeter Road was reduced to just two bars operating. The BF on Fields have skyrocketed to 4000-5000 pesos.

I am now starting my usual BKK / AC trip in late October to avoid the rains. Since I have already visited all the places in BKK many times, this visit is going to be strictly mongering with legit and exotic massages along with street food.

I have been reading this forum for a while now to prepare myself and not waste any time while on the ground. I will be staying on Soi 24 Alley on Sukhumvit.

The price at the massage parlors seems to be stable from the pre-covid days.

I am not much into the Nana Plaza bar scenes but have picked up freelancers near the Nana Hotel. Not sure if the scene is still the same. Also had some great experience with two Ukrainian girls from the Grace Hotel coffee shop.

My last visit was entirely massage parlors as I was doing a lot of photography during the day. If I remember correctly, the places I visited were Doki Doki, Cherry massage, Mo Mo massage, Addict massage and Tulip.

I contacted an outcall legit (massage place called Sanethai massage and they were pretty interested in corresponding. I like the teasing part with a legit massage with beautiful young girls. They have a great rating on google.

I also contacted Honeybee massage on Soi 24 and it seems they have three shops nearby where the girls move from one location to another location if you pre-book. I have not seen any reviews on these places.

Another one that caught my attention was a newly opened shop Butterfly just past Mango massage that lists service by each lady very explicitly. I contacted them to inquire about the services they listed to see if those are premium services but have not received any reply.

My BKK stay is six days before I fly to AC for another six days of mongering.

I thank all those who are contributing to the forum that really help to plan the trip.

I would love to get some suggestions on mongering and street food as I am visiting BKK after four years.

Thank you!

[Vicky Cooper]

I have a strange fetish of wanting the WG to pee on me in the bathroom. I'm just a bit worried that the girl might think I'm a weirdo or something. I have tried asking this to a few WG's before and most of them were not fine with it.

Requesting this from a gogo dance in Nana Plaza would guarantee that the girl goes back to her bar and spreads this to her colleagues in there like wild fire and I don't want to be looked down upon with disgust.

[EihTooms]

Just want to know if Beergarten on soi 5-6 is open. I have many good memories with freelancers I picked up from there. Will be going to Bangkok in OctoberThe place is gutted, gone, no more.

But it looks like some new project or variation of it is planned.

[Adisinghal]

Hi there BKK forum members, I've been a follower of this forum and visited BKK last year and utilised the guidelines shared by the lovely members. I'm visiting BKK again next month and I would love to hear your feedback on the best places to find CIS or Russian girls in BKK. Is MIXX club still a good place for them or there are other nightclubs too? I understand that there are options available on MR too but I assume they would be more expensive. Any help would be greatly appreciated folks and I'll be posting FRs too of course. Many thanks in advance!

[Fifino68]

Hi,

I am asking to the expert as I am going to be there in a few months: how do you find out LBs? Also, in some videos I noticed there are a lot of girls sitting on the street in Thaniya Street, I assume they are freelancers but nobody mentions them in the forum, any reason why? Thanks in advance for your help.

[Kuku696]

I have a strange fetish of wanting the WG to pee on me in the bathroom. I'm just a bit worried that the girl might think I'm a weirdo or something. I have tried asking this to a few WG's before and most of them were not fine with it.

Requesting this from a gogo dance in Nana Plaza would guarantee that the girl goes back to her bar and spreads this to her colleagues in there like wild fire and I don't want to be looked down upon with disgust.This is more prevalent in AC Philippines. Probably because of lot of expats living there.

Years ago, can't remember the name of the massage parlor. I think it was on Soi 7 or 11. It was mainly for PSE that included A+ and the girls offered this service.

In AC, you barfine the girl and slowly talk her into it. I have had girls pee on my leg while in the shower, but I sometimes like giving but not receiving.

[Kuku696]

Hi there BKK forum members, I've been a follower of this forum and visited BKK last year and utilised the guidelines shared by the lovely members. I'm visiting BKK again next month and I would love to hear your feedback on the best places to find CIS or Russian girls in BKK. Is MIXX club still a good place for them or there are other nightclubs too? I understand that there are options available on MR too but I assume they would be more expensive. Any help would be greatly appreciated folks and I'll be posting FRs too of course. Many thanks in advance!There were a bunch of very beautiful Eastern European girls who frequented the Grace Hotel area in the past and they were more expensive than the Thai girls. But overall damage was not that different from BFing a girl from the go go bar. I have had some great time with two Ukrainian girls and they were educated and spoke English.

The last time about four years ago, I couldn't find any. Looks like they are now replaced by East African girls from mainly Uganda.

[Etaoin2003]

The place is gutted, gone, no more.

But it looks like some new project or variation of it is planned.In the last month?

[MarioGoetze99]

Hi everybody,

I will be in Bangkok soon and will also travel around the country a bit. I have a bit of experience with happy ending massages (never tried more). But there is one kind of massage that I would really like to experience with a happy ending: And outdoor massage, maybe in a garden, on a terrace or somewhere in the nature. Do you have any idea if something like this is existing somewhere in or around Bangkok?

It would be so nice to be outside with all the heat and then get a pretty good handjob in nature. Did anybody ever make such an experience in Thailand? Such service seems to be hard to find. Many thanks in advance!

[Banana Boi]

in some videos I noticed there are a lot of girls sitting on the street in Thaniya Street, I assume they are freelancers but nobody mentions them in the forum, any reason why? Karaoke bar girls. They don't care if you're Farang or Asian but you likely won't get much attention without some basic Japanese. Not difficult to learn enough to make mamasan happy. This rule was overlooked during COVID but I think it's back again as I'm hearing guys being ignored by Mamasan again. I'm assuming these guys actually approached the girls to try talking to them! Girls on Thaniya do not Cat call and they don't wink at you when you walk by. you need to actually go up and talk to them. Kind of like Thermae.

The other factor is money. Most guys here prefer to pick up a SW around Nana or a girl at Thermae between 1200 and 2500 baht. A night out in the karaoke bars is not cheap unless you're in a group.

[PayForIt]

Part 1: I was in Thailand during June and July and wanted to contribute with reports. This isn't my first time in Thailand, but this was first full on, serious, every day mongering. I'm in my 20's, European, I'm going from memory what I remember the most, this is my Bangkok report.

Next time I'm in Bangkok. I'll definitely be more confident and less shy since I know now more about the game. I'll definitely try to go to clubs more and score normal girls and freelancers there. Also. I will be more confident in Thermae. So I can find girls whose Line I can get. For repeat incalls. Crazy house I will definitely visit a few more times to treat myself. But it's currently too expensive for every day mongering.

Part 2 coming in Pattaya Thread.Nice reports. I read your report in the Pattaya thread. From those reports your three favourite places were Soi Cowboy, Soi 6 Pattaya, and Heavens Above Pattaya. If you could only ever return to one of them for one night which would you choose and why?

[Chan Chalupa]

Karaoke bar girls. They don't care if you're Farang or Asian but you likely won't get much attention without some basic Japanese. Not difficult to learn enough to make mamasan happy. This rule was overlooked during COVID but I think it's back again as I'm hearing guys being ignored by Mamasan again. I'm assuming these guys actually approached the girls to try talking to them! Girls on Thaniya do not Cat call and they don't wink at you when you walk by. you need to actually go up and talk to them. Kind of like Thermae.

The other factor is money. Most guys here prefer to pick up a SW around Nana or a girl at Thermae between 1200 and 2500 baht. A night out in the karaoke bars is not cheap unless you're in a group.1,200 is a Great Price Guys. What you get is Another Story.

Was planning on hitting Nana Plaza tonight. But I'm staying in Pattaya till Sunday.

[Davey1965]

Can't really find any details on Banyan Tree. Might you please elaborate a bit on Banyan Tree, I know it is a Hotel and probably has a roof top bar.https://www.banyantree.com/thailand/bangkok

Very nice although an older hotel but still true 5 star. Great restaurants and yes roof top bar. I have only been there with my Thai GF, but if not there were many pick up opportunities available.

[Member #4782]

Nice reports. I read your report in the Pattaya thread. From those reports your three favourite places were Soi Cowboy, Soi 6 Pattaya, and Heavens Above Pattaya. If you could only ever return to one of them for one night which would you choose and why?With my current finances. Heaven Above hands down. Doors are closed, atmosphere is relaxing, place is clean. There is big choice of girls. Most of the girls speak decent english and can hold a conversation. Prices are reasonable. Girls are fun both downstairs and upstairs. You can take them upstairs or LT. Basically everything I would ever want. Some even offered threesome, but I didn't take their offer. And since it would be my only night. I would definitely try to fuck some of the hostesses. Especially all the black haired ones. I would also have drinks with at least 10 different girls during the night, that alone could be my whole night. Lord have mercy, I have 1000 ideas what I would do there right now.

Soi 6 is simply cheap go and bust a nut place to me. I enjoy the thrill of dirtiness in the moment. But I do feel walk of shame after for some reason.

Soi Cowboy is too expensive for my budget right now. Girls are prettiest there, but they are definitely hustling you.

If I was a millionaire. Well, that's another question entirely.

[EihTooms]

In the last month?I would say in just the past 2-3 weeks.

The week by week, day by day, night by night, even hour by hour differences and changes between what is reported here or presented on YouTube videos and the reality "right now" seems to apply to just about everything including line ups in bars, hot girls, ugly girls, prices, available freelancers, service levels, quality, "best" vs "worst" of anything, etc as well as, in this case, decades old traditional venues.

This is a photo of the Beergarden Soi 7 entrance taken in the past week:

[EihTooms]

Karaoke bar girls. They don't care if you're Farang or Asian but you likely won't get much attention without some basic Japanese. Not difficult to learn enough to make mamasan happy. This rule was overlooked during COVID but I think it's back again as I'm hearing guys being ignored by Mamasan again. I'm assuming these guys actually approached the girls to try talking to them! Girls on Thaniya do not Cat call and they don't wink at you when you walk by. you need to actually go up and talk to them. Kind of like Thermae.

The other factor is money. Most guys here prefer to pick up a SW around Nana or a girl at Thermae between 1200 and 2500 baht. A night out in the karaoke bars is not cheap unless you're in a group.As of last week I still get fairly demonstrative winks, smiles and subtle "come over" hand gestures from girls sitting or standing outside of, oh, about 1/3 of the karaoke venues on Thaniya Road. Not exactly cat calls. But fairly obvious interest in my patronage. As a 70 year old white guy. But zero from the ones that are presumably more Asian-centric. Or, possibly, the reluctance to behave that way toward a white guy carries with it the risk of negative response from the potential Asian customers witnessing it. Who knows what the reality would be in relative privacy.

But I have not yet gone in to find out, not because of the costs. I would not have a problem paying 2 or 3 times the 1200 or 2500 baht costs for a hot girl who provides value for the money. And I know several fellow punters who feel the same.

No, I have not yet gone in to find out because in the 12 years I have occasionally passed by those places not once have I read or heard a testimonial from anyone online or in person raving about the great or even very good sex they got from so much as one of the girls at any one of those venues. Or, for that matter, even vaguely acceptable sex with any girl at any of those venues somewhat comparable to a middling experience one could scored anywhere else for 1200 baht, 2500 baht or for Nana Plaza ladydrink, barfine and girl's fee prices.

In which case, paying only 100 baht to sit in a room singing "My Way" to the hottest babe in the most exclusive Asian-centric karaoke venue on Thaniya Road would be a waste of 100 baht and an hour of my time. As well as do nothing for that poor girl's ears and sense of music appreciation.

Of course, I would be interested in finally reading a winning contrary testimonial re sex with those girls if anyone has one to share.

[RahulMangla2009]

So, is grace hotel still active? Or Mixx? Or any place else for uzbek / russian / CIS girls?


There were a bunch of very beautiful Eastern European girls who frequented the Grace Hotel area in the past and they were more expensive than the Thai girls. But overall damage was not that different from BFing a girl from the go go bar. I have had some great time with two Ukrainian girls and they were educated and spoke English.

The last time about four years ago, I couldn't find any. Looks like they are now replaced by East African girls from mainly Uganda.

[Nyezhov]

The Grab Bike option is the deal sealer for me. It's always cheapest, and when inevitably there is a traffic jam, the driver can just weave in and out of the lanes and get you where you need to be. I can't say I've felt unsafe on one either.Not when you are fat, broke back and almost 70, and its 14.7 km from the Pit to my crib.

[Banana Boi]

I can easily figure out where Puy works since I'm familiar with Silom. I have no plans to go to Patpong this trip but want to give her money for a hamster coffin.

My question is what time does she work? is her roti good?

[Adisinghal]

Thanks for the feedback mate! I suppose there are other locations for such girls too? It'll be great to hear from other members too!


There were a bunch of very beautiful Eastern European girls who frequented the Grace Hotel area in the past and they were more expensive than the Thai girls. But overall damage was not that different from BFing a girl from the go go bar. I have had some great time with two Ukrainian girls and they were educated and spoke English.

The last time about four years ago, I couldn't find any. Looks like they are now replaced by East African girls from mainly Uganda.

[Werqweq]

The Grab Bike option is the deal sealer for me. It's always cheapest, and when inevitably there is a traffic jam, the driver can just weave in and out of the lanes and get you where you need to be. I can't say I've felt unsafe on one either.Back home I motorcycle up the mountains (GS1200). Here I use mototaxi 4-5 times a week for shorter rides, and only when necessary due to traffic and time, and I always feel unsafe.

I did invest in a cheap helmet after the first few rides though, which makes me feel a bit less unsafe.

[BeachDrone]

I can easily figure out where Puy works since I'm familiar with Silom. I have no plans to go to Patpong this trip but want to give her money for a hamster coffin.

My question is what time does she work? is her roti good?Puy is on Silom Road, near the Sala Daeng BTS station and the Silom MRT station, and she works from approximately 3:30 PM to 10 PM Tuesday through Sunday.

[MickeyDuck1208]

After a GS1200 any 2 wheeler will feel wobbly. Only a car will feel better. LOL. Great bike.


Back home I motorcycle up the mountains (GS1200). Here I use mototaxi 4-5 times a week for shorter rides, and only when necessary due to traffic and time, and I always feel unsafe.

I did invest in a cheap helmet after the first few rides though, which makes me feel a bit less unsafe.

[MickeyDuck1208]

The area around Grace in Soi 3-5 is an Arab popular place, lot of eat outs and shops are Arab too. You will see lot of hotel guests as them. Given the DXB vibe, I guess that's where you will find the most Stanis. I have seen some EE and Stanis in some 5 stars (JW, Anantara specifically) but choices might be fewer and prices higher.


Thanks for the feedback mate! I suppose there are other locations for such girls too? It'll be great to hear from other members too!

[Newton York]

How is this dude making these videos? No one can see his camera, it's something. Also, I miss Phrom Phong so much. Watch the bit when you can see butterfly massage, I always thought the place was new and that it replaced aurora behind it, but it turns out it's always been there I think. I vaguely recall seeing it when I was there last year maybe. But it never registered with me cause I had my eye on aurora massage at the time. With what I see now on the butterfly massage website, really makes me wish I went when I had the chance last year. Was butterfly massage around last year? The fact that I even gave RSK next door a try means I was game to try anything, so I woulda gone into butterfly for sure. Well, anyways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej9-I1imJ_E

Heck, watch the bit when he's recording Nana security from the inside! No camera usage is allowed past security, so it's hilarious.

This is incredibly fascinating, cause if you watch the videos, it's obvious his camera is hidden somehow, hidden so well no one can even tell when they're looking right at him. He's standing next to people, recording them. I'm curious about how he hides the camera so well. My theory is it's an all in one gimball action camera, kinda like those tiny DJI types, or maybe a gopro, and somehow he's got it inside an over the shoulder bag strapped over the front of him. Or he cut a hole into a fanny pack and the camera or phone is shooting out of there, but how he keeps it so stable and in focus is pretty amazing.

It's fantastic though cause it's a great way to make money, the dude has a decent number of subscribers, and view count per video is pretty high. Based on what I know he could easily be making like 4 grand a month with those numbers. I mean, imagine makin' that kind of cash just walking around Bangkok and Pattaya. He's never on camera, doesn't say a word, no text on screen, no music. And it gets 40 to 60 k views? Those are really good numbers in this day and age of youtube.

I want to do this dudes, this is the life man. Livin' there, cruisin' the streets lookin' for chicks, surreptitiously recording video and making some income from it. Now, that's the life. The only question though is whether or not youtube would demonetize stuff like this. I got to imagine videos like this push the envelope just enough that it still makes money, cause if it doesn't I don't why anyone would bother uploading them much less secretly shooting it in the first place. Whoever this dude is, he's livin' the life! These videos are keeping my dream of going back to Bangkok alive. There's old places, new places, still plenty of hot babes, the atmosphere and energy of Bangkok. Thanks to videos like these we get to see up to date information on what's happening on the ground. Man, I miss Thailand.

I know it sucks to be on video when you're ostensibly in Bangkok to fuck prostitutes, but when I think about it, it's basically impossible to avoid it. Just embrace the chaos man. Look at all the youtube videos of the inside of Thermae that fellow hobbyists have been able to record. Your only option is to wear a mask. And you know what? I used to hate the idea of being recorded on video or photo, but now in this modern age of just so much ridiculous social media, everybody with their phones recording everything all the freakin' time non-stop, and every big city in the world recording your every move at every street corner, every building everywhere, there's no escape from being on someone or something's footage or photo. It's just a fact of modern life. And what that thing or person wants to do with your likeness is up to them, cause most of this stuff is captured in public anyway. So, I betcha fellas, with how much travel I've done and where I live now, I'm in literally thousands of photos and pieces of footage in thousands of cloud storage accounts, phones and hard drives around the world. And so are you. And you know what? It don't matter. This is how modern life works, and it is how it is, so it's all fair game. Just give me the chance, and I'll start making videos like this dude. Especially if I can make money from just freakin' walking around Bangkok and looking at girls.

In this modern world of constant surveillance, and everyone with phones recording everything all the time, there's only 2 things you can do. Wear a mask, or just smile for the camera

[PayForIt]

How is this dude making these videos?
This is incredibly fascinating, cause if you watch the videos, it's obvious his camera is hidden somehow, hidden so well no one can even tell when they're looking right at him. He's standing next to people, recording them. I'm curious about how he hides the camera so well.This is really not difficult. Not a go pro inside a cover. There are excellent "pens" on the market with camera in the top of the pen which has no light / red dot. They are not expensive but shoot excellent footage. The pen has a normal nib and will write so if anyone stopped you to look at it, you could just write and there is a little cover to hide the camera that pulls down with one finger.

Before you ask. Nope - not me taking these. I actually don't like the use of hidden cameras which invade privacy IMHO but to each their own. But it's really not difficult to get hold of one of these.

[Chan Chalupa]

Asian Nights.

Youu could complain to you tube and say he is illegaly filming in Nana Plaza. Might teach him a lesson.

I'm pretty sure he had a previous channel doing the same thing.

[HorseTrader]

Was butterfly massage around last year?Assuming you mean the Butterfly Massage on the dead-end section of the horseshoe shaped alley off Soi 24, the answer is "sort of". In December 2022, that space was called something like "Pink" and I enjoyed it very much. In March 2023, it had a new name but looked the same as before and some of the prior Pink girls were still there.

Edit: Rethinking the date of changing from Pink to Butterfly, I'm not excactly sure when that happened. It might have been sometime in 2022, but I think it was early 2023.

[EihTooms]

How is this dude making these videos? No one can see his camera, it's something. ...Practically no one passing or standing right in front of the videographer takes the least bit of notice of him. Man, woman, young, old, Freelancers, probable mongers, nobody considers him either a potential customer or anyone worth even a first glance much less a second.

I have not watched his other videos but I'm guessing the videographer is not a "guy" at all but there is a short, chubby, 50-60 year old Asian woman wielding that hidden camera.

[Banana Boi]

Only watched a few seconds of the posted video link. Given the height of the video he either has a belt cam or a button cam. Yes, you can buy 4 k cameras in Japan now that look exactly like the button on a shirt. There are other cameras like the GoPro mini or DJI cam that are so tiny that no one will see that camera unless they look for it. I will commend that his camera is pretty clear. If he does a thermae one someone please post the link.

ET makes a point though that no one is paying attention to this guy so it may in fact be a girl. There is a watch seller trying to sell him a Rolex so likely not someone Thai.

Someone commented on how video is so stable. Action cameras have come a long way in the past 3 years or so. Stabilization is a non issue now if you know how to set your camera settings.




No, I have not yet gone in to find out because in the 12 years I have occasionally passed by those places not once have I read or heard a testimonial from anyone online or in person raving about the great or even very good sex they got from so much as one of the girls at any one of those venues.

Definitely not for you, ET. Not for me either I'm better off getting DFK from a gogo girl for 200 baht. But if you want pretty good looking girls providing Thermae mileage then it will be ok.


Puy is on Silom Road, near the Sala Daeng BTS station and the Silom MRT station, and she works from approximately 3:30 PM to 10 PM Tuesday through Sunday.

Thanks for the hours. Was hoping she worked earlier to give me something to do in early afternoon. Yes, I recognized the area when I saw the video.

[DaVinci40]

Just wanted to throw out a Thanks for this post. I'm also going to be a first time BKK visitor soon and having experience in other mongering spots where the room to fuck is usually attached to the club I always find the Asian scene confusing and hard to find the answers to my specific questions such as. Do you take all the girls to your own hotel, are there short time rooms near the clubs / bars, am I supposed to know which short time place or do the girls pick the place, etc etc. Also appreciate the honesty in feeling anxious the first time. I was the same in the beginning and now I've been in enough experiences it's a lot easier.

I'm guessing for thermae cafe girls when you take them out you're going back to your own hotel or a short time room nearby? The reason I'm so picky about where we go is I've had some times where I've stayed in 1 room for a 5-6 day romp and after about the 3rd day after numerous girls the bed that I end up sleeping on is usually also covered in cum, lube, spit, perfume, ass, etc etc so I like to have a 2 bed room. One for the fun and one clean one for sleeping (it gets old after awhile of smelling a particular girls pussy on your pillow that you used under her ass to prop her up off the bed).

Anyways, thanks again.


Part 1: I was in Thailand during June and July and wanted to contribute with reports. This isn't my first time in Thailand, but this was first full on, serious, every day mongering. I'm in my 20's, European, I'm going from memory what I remember the most, this is my Bangkok report.

First stop of my trip I spent staying in Soi 4 really close to Nana Plaza. I don't drink, or smoke, or don't have any intentions in sitting whole day in a bar every day. So I found that street to be terrible place to stay. You have to be a really specific type of the person to stay there. And I'm simply not that. I spent my days exploring Bangkok, and nights mongering. Please keep in mind while reading that on the start of the trip I was a complete beginner in mongering. Also. I do FS covered every time, so If I don't mention it explicitly. You can assume that.

During the night there are a lot of freelancers on the whole street, some Thai, some Vietnamese, some African. I've tried 3 or 4 girls from the street. But I didn't find the experience worth it. I paid at most 2000ST for those freelancers, 1500ST for older ones. Every time girls where either starfishes or I didn't like their attitude. They all did the deed like we agreed Covered FS, BBJ, Cum on Body. Lesson #1 - I like some conversation and fun with girls before fucking, so I didn't enjoy those encounters. You can see from the lack of details how un memorable the whole thing was. Definitely do not recommend. I'm not sure what market price. But I definitely felt like I overpaid.

I read about Kasalong and Lolitas. And one day I went into Kasalong. And basically don't ever go. It's the most shittiest places ever imagineable. Simply don't go there guys. Ugly girls, ugly place. Only good thing about both is that you can come there. See that it's shit. And go have a meal in restaurants close by in Soi 8 - which are unexpectedly excellent.

I was in Nana plaza for 3-4 times. And I simply could not make myself comfortable there, I tried few places on second floor. And they were always empty. And at that point I was still too shy to enjoy myself, and every girl I called couldn't speak any English, and at that point I barely spoke any Thai. There is a bar on 3rd floor. Which name I forget. Which was always full, and with pretty ladies. But I never took any of them. All in all. I wouldn't recommend for mongering. Only maybe for special occasions, but to be fair. I never really got into it. Only highlight I remember is seeing Korean idiots throwing ping pong balls on the stage and hoes going crazy to fetch them.

Part 2 coming in Pattaya Thread.

[Member #4782]

Just wanted to throw out a Thanks for this post. I'm also going to be a first time BKK visitor soon and having experience in other mongering spots where the room to fuck is usually attached to the club I always find the Asian scene confusing and hard to find the answers to my specific questions such as. Do you take all the girls to your own hotel, are there short time rooms near the clubs / bars, am I supposed to know which short time place or do the girls pick the place, etc etc. Also appreciate the honesty in feeling anxious the first time. I was the same in the beginning and now I've been in enough experiences it's a lot easier.

I'm guessing for thermae cafe girls when you take them out you're going back to your own hotel or a short time room nearby? The reason I'm so picky about where we go is I've had some times where I've stayed in 1 room for a 5-6 day romp and after about the 3rd day after numerous girls the bed that I end up sleeping on is usually also covered in cum, lube, spit, perfume, ass, etc etc so I like to have a 2 bed room. One for the fun and one clean one for sleeping (it gets old after awhile of smelling a particular girls pussy on your pillow that you used under her ass to prop her up off the bed).

Anyways, thanks again.Thanks man, feels good to contribute.

My preference is the same. 1. Rooms in the bar 2. Short time rooms 3. My hotel. Reasons are the same as yours.

Not all bars have rooms. But you simply ask the girl do they have the room upstairs. They are usually 400 baht. If you pay room upstairs, you don't pay barfine to the bar. You just pay the girl her money. Every one that I have been to had showers and AC. But be prepared for them otherwise to be dirty AF.

If they don't have room in bar. You pay barfine to the bar + the girl + short time room. Just ask girl you are with is there any short time room close by. They all know it. If that one doesn't know. Next one knows. Just ask them, they will tell you. In my experience, only thing girls care about is the least amount of walking. I always paid around 400 baht for short time rooms. But I think they can get up to 600 baht max.

For Soi Cowboy. There is Short time hotel next to 7/11 at the entrance to Soi cowboy. Up the stairs. And there is one in the middle of the street. Inside of some bar. I'm sure there are more close by.

For FL I picked up in Soi Nana, Thermae and Soi 11. I took to my hotel. It was easiest at that time. For reference. Go to google maps. Look at distance from Thermae to middle of soi 4. For me that's a short walk. For girls that's a taxi / tuktuk ride.

Hotel advice. Make sure to ask at reception for house cleaning every day. Sometimes they don't see when you press the button. When you bring girl to your hotel, tell her to leave ID at the reception. When you book hotel room. Book for 2 people. Price is the same. If the hotel accepts girls, and you booked for 2, you don't pay extra for her. If you are not sure if hotel accepts girls. Ask them do they have joiner fee. You can simply before booking google "girl friendly hotel in bkk".

[Lcale1982]

Just wanted to throw out a Thanks for this post. I'm also going to be a first time BKK visitor soon and having experience in other mongering spots where the room to fuck is usually attached to the club I always find the Asian scene confusing and hard to find the answers to my specific questions such as. Do you take all the girls to your own hotel, are there short time rooms near the clubs / bars, am I supposed to know which short time place or do the girls pick the place, etc etc. Also appreciate the honesty in feeling anxious the first time. I was the same in the beginning and now I've been in enough experiences it's a lot easier.

I'm guessing for thermae cafe girls when you take them out you're going back to your own hotel or a short time room nearby? The reason I'm so picky about where we go is I've had some times where I've stayed in 1 room for a 5-6 day romp and after about the 3rd day after numerous girls the bed that I end up sleeping on is usually also covered in cum, lube, spit, perfume, ass, etc etc so I like to have a 2 bed room. One for the fun and one clean one for sleeping (it gets old after awhile of smelling a particular girls pussy on your pillow that you used under her ass to prop her up off the bed).

Anyways, thanks again.The girls, go go and beer bars, should know a nearby short time spot if there is one. Thermae is right under a hotel so that's the easiest spot to take them too but yea you can also take them to your hotel if its not too far. All the ladies I've taken from Thermae they ask where it is first before agreeing to go w / me.

Have the cleaning ladies change the sheets LOL. That's a good idea with the two bed room.

[Explorer8939]

The contrast between Crazy House and the Soi Cowboy gogos is very harp: one has full nudity and is packed, the others have ladies in bikinis and are empty.

I went to a gogo last night and a lady came up to me and said "no have drink all day".

It was 20.31. The bar opened at 20.30.

[Nyezhov]

The area around Grace in Soi 3-5 is an Arab popular place, lot of eat outs and shops are Arab too. You will see lot of hotel guests as them. Given the DXB vibe, I guess that's where you will find the most Stanis. I have seen some EE and Stanis in some 5 stars (JW, Anantara specifically) but choices might be fewer and prices higher.I have not seen a white girl hooking anywhere near the grace hotel in years.

[Fifino68]

As of last week I still get fairly demonstrative winks, smiles and subtle "come over" hand gestures from girls sitting or standing outside of, oh, about 1/3 of the karaoke venues on Thaniya Road. Not exactly cat calls. But fairly obvious interest in my patronage. As a 70 year old white guy. But zero from the ones that are presumably more Asian-centric. Or, possibly, the reluctance to behave that way toward a white guy carries with it the risk of negative response from the potential Asian customers witnessing it. Who knows what the reality would be in relative privacy.

But I have not yet gone in to find out, not because of the costs. I would not have a problem paying 2 or 3 times the 1200 or 2500 baht costs for a hot girl who provides value for the money. And I know several fellow punters who feel the same.

No, I have not yet gone in to find out because in the 12 years I have occasionally passed by those places not once have I read or heard a testimonial from anyone online or in person raving about the great or even very good sex they got from so much as one of the girls at any one of those venues. Or, for that matter, even vaguely acceptable sex with any girl at any of those venues somewhat comparable to a middling experience one could scored anywhere else for 1200 baht, 2500 baht or for Nana Plaza ladydrink, barfine and girl's fee prices.

In which case, paying only 100 baht to sit in a room singing "My Way" to the hottest babe in the most exclusive Asian-centric karaoke venue on Thaniya Road would be a waste of 100 baht and an hour of my time. As well as do nothing for that poor girl's ears and sense of music appreciation.

Of course, I would be interested in finally reading a winning contrary testimonial re sex with those girls if anyone has one to share.What attracts me of that road is not the karaoke, which I hate, but the scenario of having 30 girls sitting outside and being able to choose without going into a club with music noise and drinks. So for me the question is: is there a similar place without the karaoke part?

[Houston Player]

The contrast between Crazy House and the Soi Cowboy gogos is very harp: one has full nudity and is packed, the others have ladies in bikinis and are empty.
This is not true. Maybe during the one minute you were there. Crazy House is currently the only bar in Cowboy with full nudity (albeit by mostly fat chicks) but several bars have topless dancers.

[HorseTrader]

I'm guessing for thermae cafe girls when you take them out you're going back to your own hotel or a short time room nearby? The reason I'm so picky about where we go is I've had some times where I've stayed in 1 room for a 5-6 day romp and after about the 3rd day after numerous girls the bed that I end up sleeping on is usually also covered in cum, lube, spit, perfume, ass, etc etc so I like to have a 2 bed room. One for the fun and one clean one for sleeping (it gets old after awhile of smelling a particular girls pussy on your pillow that you used under her ass to prop her up off the bed).Where are you staying that doesn't clean your room frequently? AirBNB or similar? Do they have the things you need to clean it yourself? My normal 4-star hotels change sheets and duvet every day. I frequently stay in a 3-star in Samui where they clean the room daily but they only change sheets and duvet every 2nd day (they change daily if I request).

She doesn't want to get in a dirty bed, same as you and me.

[Dg8787]

The girls, go go and beer bars, should know a nearby short time spot if there is one. Thermae is right under a hotel so that's the easiest spot to take them too but yea you can also take them to your hotel if its not too far. All the ladies I've taken from Thermae they ask where it is first before agreeing to go w / me.

Have the cleaning ladies change the sheets LOL. That's a good idea with the two bed room.Tipping the room cleaner 100 B works wonders for me. They will leave extra towels and change out towels and sheets for new incoming.

[GreenBud]

This is not true. Maybe during the one minute you were there. Crazy House is currently the only bar in Cowboy with full nudity (albeit by mostly fat chicks) but several bars have topless dancers.Doesn't Suzi Wong and Toy still have full nudity? With shows. Sometimes not constantly; they rotate. And previously, 1 or 2 more had it. Did they change? I like Thailand because they have full nudity in the go-go bars.

[Explorer8939]

Doesn't Suzi Wong and Toy still have full nudity? With shows. Sometimes not constantly; they rotate. And previously, 1 or 2 more had it. Did they change? I like Thailand because they have full nudity in the go-go bars.You could be right, as I didn't go into every bar on Soi Cowboy.

So, do any gogos on Soi Cowboy have nude dancers?

[LoneWolff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej9-I1imJ_E

Thanks much for sharing NY. Loved the videos.

Watching a 30 min video gives so much more info than 100 pages of RTFF, specifically the quality of girls which can never be the same for each person. Most hidden videos are so grainy and shot from a distance and shaky and therefore pretty much useless. This guy focuses on the girls alone and it is so refreshing to see what's on offer.

[CaliGuy33]

Back in Thailand after about ten months.

I had been travelling in two other countries for a week before arriving here and it's just a breath of fresh air being here.

I arrived fairly late so didn't do anything the first night.

My first actual day, I had an appointment in the morning for a back treatment in Asoke, after that I went to the T21 food court and pigged out. Two dishes, coffee and water for 100 baht, man you can't beat the value of LOS.

After that I walked over to Wood Bar. Yeah I know, these joints don't have the most attractive or young women, but I haven't been with a women in ten months and just need my damn cherry popped! Arrrive at Wood Bar, chose the beat looking one of the three as it was early. Don't recall her name but she was fun. Told her I hadn't been with a gal in a long time and so to take it slow. She gave me a good twenty minute ball sucking job as instructed as I knew junior would pop within a minute if solely tended to as I was backed up for a month. She eventually took the built up load like a champ.

Can't say I really recommend Wood Bar, but it got the job done for what I needed at the time.

I then went to a dentist appointment and due to that didn't want to session as gum bleeding and kissing and eating pussy might not be such a good thing. Went and got a foot massage instead. And I kind of like elongating the anticipation of my first session.

When I was here last year, TF seemed kind of dead in terms of civvies and even FLers to a certain degree. But man I'm getting blown up by the civvies this time around. I didn't got on one date with a civvie last year as the ones that showed interest weren't worth seeing, but this time around I imagine I'll meet a few. But I'm a monger at heart, so we'll see.

As far as tourists and how busy things are, it seems pretty slow to me and the FLers I've interacted with seem desperate. Therefore, it's a good time to be here I surmise.

Once I really get the ball rolling over the next few days I'll report back.

[Ssseeking]

I am a regular SG (Calcutta) mongerer and very rarely UAE mongerer. But it was long in my check list to do monger in Thailand. In India and UAE I take NE (Mongoloid girls) very rarely and more into classic Bengali and Bangladeshi girls. But I was getting bored and need some variety. So during my recent trip to India, while coming back to desert town I with some close friends did a 13 day detour in Thailand. In the future post I will summarize all my mongering related expenses in total but at this very moment I am very scared to look into my back account and very depressed also while leaving the land of smiles.

One of our main inspiration for this trip was from all of us friend being huge JAV fans. So after booking a round trip to BKK we started doing research and most of it was concentrated on sensual or AV style massages rather than pure sandwich massages. So instead of Pattaya we got most options in BKK and also we still thought that Pattaya we must explore even though it does not look enticing for our purpose, we spared good number of days. But also so that our dick does not break down we planned to make some gap days in Phuket for island visits and swimming in sea.

BKK Day 1:

We checked in to a hotel in Khaosan Road. I don't know why but one of our group member alleagedly got advice from ISG research and that first time in BKK one must check stay in Khaosan Road. It was not bad, Hotels were very guest friendly but Given my father also joined us in the trip I did not plan to bring guest here. We activated both tinder and bumble. But getting match of fugly girls or Lady boys (Note our group guys are not ugly and quite fit, No idea may be because of Indian bias but I heard senior Indians they get good match).

Earlier I did some research on massage parlours in BKK. On Sukhumvit Soi 22 we heard there are many parlours like Paradise, Kiss 1 and 2, Bankok Passion etc. I think they are most likely owned by same people. When we walked on the street we were greeted quite well. Earlier I heard that thais can be biased against Indians (I agree with most of the reasons though) but we were welcomed very grace fully. I entered paradise massage and friends entered other random ones in the alley.

I was shown the rate card similar to their website. I choose two girl sensual massage with glory hole. I wanted 2 hour or 90 minutes but they told it will be boring that long and take the 60 min one. I chose the two really beautiful but mature but not aunty type girls. They were very tall and wearing quite sexy dress and slutty makeup. They lead me to a room and asked me to strip and told if I want I can have shower. I had just taken shower earlier while leaving our hotel so straight way wanted to lay down for the massage. Now first time in my life I saw a hole on the massage table in the groin are and laid down while my dick was hanging from the whole. The girls came and they started a really good oil massage. I had flight late at night and whole morning I was waiting in a startbucks doing office work, so I was quite tired and back was also very sore. I was really enjoying the massage and almost went to sleep mode. But then one girl started to tease my dick in the hole and the touch and hand movement full of copious amount of oil was super turn on. I was almost about to cum soon and requested them to stop. This went on for some time and I was througholy enjoying this. Suddenly I saw one of the lady was not there, I was surprised where she went. But then finally I FELT IT. She was under the table and playing with my dick.

In India, I had 4 hand massage many times, but there mostly the ladies focus on massaging only and while at the end I get happy ending. But here I was getting good massage as well extreme teasing. I was literally in paradise for the time being. Also the below girl applied nail, teeth, issue paper, tongue whatever I felt a very weird sensation and after some time I cummed like a hose.

Then they asked me to turn over and covered the whole. Again very decent body massage they focused on the dick. Now the 2 day before I did a heavy mongering in India. So was taking time. But they were patient, both of them sat either side of me and started jerking me off. I started to feel their body over their dresses and did some mental roleplay and soon went point of no return. I paid 1600 TBH total and they did not ask for any tips.

After that we went to have some food. My friends took Nuru with Jaccuzi with single ladies in the spas beside. They got much younger girls and paid a premium 2600 TBH each. Again no one accepted any tips and it was good experience for all of us. Next we added Nana plaza on map and thought we will go there.

However, in between saw Thermae cafe and we felt we should explore. We were not dressed that well (shorts and shirts) and still wanted to give it a try. We entered and were guided to a bar counter by the waiters. So I have to buy a drink and explore. Looking at the uncountable amount of ladies in nearby this I considered a fair investment and so did our group people. We each got some drink, me got a Black Label. Do not remember the cost but it was fairly priced and I really don't care about drink as I was going to throw it away anyways. We saw mostly Korean and Japanese men trying to get girls. Saw may be one or two Indian guys but they were olders than us. We took a round of a bar. Quality of girls were quite well. Earlier one of my close friend mentioned that here mostly semi pro girls come and you can get girl next door type. But unlike my regular staple adventures in Kolkata where I see, I choose and the owner negotiates price with me it was different. None of the girls were shoting and saying they are on rent, Rather they were just holding drinks and doing things on their phones. We decided that lets explore on our own and we separated from our group. I tried to make couple of rounds and smiled at many girls. I saw one girl with ponytails and big lips, dressed in a white top and denim shorts with another older woman beside her. I smiled at her and she also reciprocated. In my whole adult life I have only tried direcly spearking with girls when I was fat and ugly, now I am only ugly so thought what can go wrong, Started chatting with them, Exchanged common pleasantraries and I told I like you and want to spend time with you. The older girl quoted the price for short term is 3000 TBH and for long term is 10 k TBH. Earlier my research on youtube told the price was slightly less than that. So told her I will come back with my friend and started roaming around more. Spoke with some more girls and got similar rates. 2 of my friends spoke with two very young looking girls, they were beautiful, both were wearing black top and jeans and quoting them 3. 5 k TBH for short term. Our 4th member was very shy to speak with any girl, so I asked him who he likes and I spoke with those girls, they also quoted 3 k each. I liked another girl beside, she was wearing a yellow one piece, very petite though boobs showing up, in my experience this is fake books, I have been scammed in SG where after taking girl to room I saw breast form (first time I came to know such things exists). Anyways the girl my friend liked was very curvy and tall and wearing a black one piece and had ample boobs. We negotiated price to 2500 for short term. Now I went back to my school girl, she was still there and again I smiled at me. I was already two shots down, now honeslty I would have not taken a premium girl like this in kolkata unless it was my last visit, but I did not know when I will come back again. So I pitched her 2. 5 k TBH and she also agreed. My other two friends took the girls at 3 k each.

Next my girl held my hand and started walking outside, I also went to ATM to get cash. Now on road it seemed that I am walking with my girlfriend, though as a inter-racial couple. We reached some big yet old hotel near the place. It seemed like legit hotel with some normal families checkin in also. We agreed that we will pay 700 TBH for the room. The girl made some gestures to the receptionist guy and handed over her ID. He guided us to the room. Now in may just previous massage I was offered a shower and here girl asked me to have shower. I maintain my hygine but given the general mongering ettiquetes in kolkata and India and even UAE also this seemed like a new culture thing to me. However follow culture where you are and anyways I was a bit sweaty due to walking in Bangkok weather. She stripped herself and also asked me to strip and invited me to the bathtub. The hotel had decent bathrub and washroom in general. She applied water on her and me also. Her english was not that good but we somehow communicated and I asked her to apply soap on me. She complied and showered herself and helped me bath as well. Now after this we both jumped onto the bed and we started cuddling. She was very clean decent boobs and as just after shower was smelling very nice and her hair smelled nicer. We fooled around for some time, then I started licking her legs and she was feeling ticklish and also laughed a lot. In my trip after many instances like this the only thai word other than ส3623;3633;3626;3604;3637; and ข3629;3610;3588;3640;3603; was จ3633;3658;3585;3592;3637;3657;. I was getting some difficulty in getting turned on. She was beautiful but I was down two times and also I did not sleep the previous night and was working continuously. Now I asked her put on her dress and I had this fantasy of violating a school girl. Actually one thing I noticed that I am very much used to shy girls like India where they don't give in completely and you have to take her either by charm or by force and that gratification of gaining something taboo finally turns me on and I can't help it. So anyways after she put on her dress then I started to tease her and took her lady parts out of her dress, I know its odd but I paid money and I will do things as long as the girl is not hurt. So finally turned on and we finished things. She allowed some DFK and we finished again in the shower. Came to reception did some chitchat and exhcanged instagram. Apparently she is trying to build some makeup goods business, best of luck. Unlike kolkata girls who mostly works in spa / beauty parlour this looks like a new change. My friends also came down. My friend asked why they do it and she told iphones are getting expensive. I looked at my Razer phone 2 in dispair and took some photos of us with its still functional back camera. I wonder if my life was also that simple and transactional. After all these we were very hungry and said good bye to the girls. They told later they can go LT for 6 k if we ask directly next time. Good to hear. Also while going to El toro stakehouse I saw my friends black dressed tall girl caught one white american and winked at us while we walked away. Overall day well spent including the steak but sadly it put a bigger hole expense wise and we returned at our pad in khaosan road.

BKK 2:

Morning we woke up and we were flooded with work calls. Anyways decided we will work the whole day and at night will explore again. Todays agenda was Japanese Massages. As mentioned earlier we did a lot of research on it and short listed some places.

1. Rakuen.

2. Momo massage.

3. Preety Massage.

4. Kokoro BKK.

Anyways we had to book some tickets to phuket, that failed and we finally took a cab to the japanese / korean side of Sukhumvit. Here it looked like a different BKK than yesterday. All restaurants and shops were either in Korean or Japanese. However after some struggle we located the 3 massage parlours. The kokoro one was very far away. I requested my friends to try different parlours so that we get more intel. I entered Momo massage, it was just beside the others. The fair but slightly MILF yet slim lady greeted us. This was not like the loud massage parlours that we saw yesterday where girls in slutty dress ask for massages rather we were asked to sit in a sofa and she came and explained the process and also gave us brochures for the girls. The massage was 2600 and with jacuzi it was 2900 or 3200 I don't recall exactly but it was same as mentioned in their website. The brochures were very detailed showed girls photo from various angles and also mentioned vital stats. The lady then called the girls to arrive. They were all wearing a uniform of white skin fit shirt and black mini skirts and they looked exactly like the photos and were indeed beautiful. I asked some of my friends to at least visit some other spa. But we were all blown away. So the lady made a very successful sale. But there were not enough normal rooms, so two of us had to take rooms with jacuzzi.

My girl guided me to the room and told she will come back in a while and asked me to relax. The room was very clean and there was a very big jaccuzi. She came after sometime carrying her kit which contain shower gels, massage oils, condoms etc. My girl was not japanese exactly and she was from Isan region and her english was very broken. I regreted actually, to me personally the service quality matters more so I prefer experienced womand rather than pure looker. But it was my mistake. Next time I should have asked properly to the receptionist. She stripped and also helped me to strip. Filled the bathtub and it was full of bubbles. This was my first time in a jaccuzi and even bathtub properly with a girl. Her inexperience was shown, she was just sitting in the bathtub and was not making any move. I started doing some conversations and she mentioned very few Indian people come there and also jokingly commented on my body hair. I should have trimmed. But good thing is I don't smell like Indians due to not having traditional Indian meals and she laughed at that. Then we started doing some cuddling in the jaccuzi. Her body was perfect, yellow / white, no body hair, super smooth, breasts probably implant but she was like a doll / model. After sometime I asked her to slow give me a footjob. She laughed at that. With one leg she was rubbing by dick in the soapy water. Earlier I had tried footjob in India but without gel it becomes dry if the girl is not experienced and its not fun, But here it was much enjoyable and I was about to cum. I was also sucking her toes and she also felt ticklish like the thermae girl.

After sometime, we stood up and she helped me dry with a towel and wrapped herself with a white towel. She was indeed looking like some beautiful sauna lady in a japanese porn. The girl from thermae took a normal bath but here she after taking a proper soapy bath was looking very sexy. Her wet hair was also sticking with her face and some droplets of water was also coming from the hair to her body and getting lost in the towel finally. She asked if want massage first or sex first. I told her I want a sensual massage. She guided me towards the bed and started massaing with oil. Her massage was not that sensual. I think these massages are mostly sex shop. The day one type sensuality in the massage was missing. We did some kissing and cuddling. I asked I need a slow oily handjob. She put plenty of oil on my dick and started rubbing slowly. I requested one of her feet and she forwarded it to my face. She sat near my hips facing me and still wearing the towel and huge amount of cleavage of her probably fake boobs were visible. She was smiling towards me and was jerking me off. Could not hold much longer.

Other friends also had decent experience and given it was japanese themed (some of the other girls which my friends took could actually speak japanese and showed photos in Japan also) we finished the day eating some japanese food near that place. Again found people very nice and no bias against Indians overall.

On the next night we were supposed to leave for Phuket and it seems Nana Plaza and soy cowboy areas were still left. We decided we might not take any girl but lets visit once. We took a cab and reached the area after having huge traffic. Earlier I was very much interested to try out some edible cannabies as I could never get high from smoking MJ (I don't smoke). We went to a cannabies shop near nana plaza called Mary jane or something and bought a box of edible gummy bears. We finished it and finished nothing and felt our 600 TBH is gone. Anyways we went to Naza Plaza and saw many many of the bars. We did not enter any as we were not horny and were tired also. Later roamed around the area, saw many free lancers I still can't distinguish between ladybodys and ladies. However before boarding cab we went to a 7/11 to get some protein shakes and then after taking that the gummie bears started kicking and finally we reached Khao San road again. Saw many bars playing huge music and many girls also. Was not interested to approach, we bought some more gummie bears and I don't remember much, luckily I reached hotel safely and hopefully I was not raped by any ladybody.

BKK 3:

We woke up very late almost towards check out time. The gummie bears worked. Anyways we were supposed to take bus for phuket, so went to Sukhumvit area one more time. My friends tried some other parlour near Paradise. I went to Kiss 1. Saw the menu card, it had option of a foot fetish massage with stocking. Took that and selected a tall girl. Her english was bad also but she was very polite and asking many times if things are good or not. Initially I thought she will put the stockings from the beginning but she stripped and did not wear anything I was slightly disappointed. We went to shower together and she helped me bath. After making me dry she started oil massage. Did decent B2 B also. Her boobs (probably implants) were big and felt nice in B2 B but I was stilling missing any feet action. However midway the journey she took a fresh pair of stockings and wore it. Then she started doing massage with her legs rubbing with all over my body. This was very nice feeling. I felt it long ago when my ex wife once wore stockings to bed. She also rubbed my dick with one stockings leg and I started smelling her other leg over stockings. I felt her boobs with another hand. Both of us were physically flexible and cummed soon. She took me to shower and started to arose me again and this time started rubbing me from the back and this is my favorite and turned on after sometime and cummed. Friends also had similar experience.

Many things are still pending, I want to try some more tantric massages, BJ Bars and some prostate massages but my father was waiting in the hotel and also our bus was scheduled so had to conclude part 1 of our BKK mongering. We decided after phuket we will come back for a day or two more. Overall I enjoyed Bangkok and till that point I was doing calculations of if I make similar travels everytime I visit India how much it will cost me. Though while writing this its irrelevant due to experience I was about to have in pattaya. More on it in futre FRs.

BKK 4:

In phuket we just went to Bangla Road on patong beach. It was massive and full of energy but we were tired due to the island trips and various sea activities. Saw many girls dancing on tables. I asked my father to join also but he was also tired. Anyways after actual holiday and lots of photo sessions in Phuket, We took flight to Bangkok again. This time we stayed in a decent hotel near Thermae cafe. It was around 800 TBH per day. We reached very late that night so did not do anything. Next day our goal was to visit again some japanese massage. Me and another person header to KokoroBKK and two persons went to Ola Ola massage. Later I found they did not like Ola Ola that much and headed to Bankgok Paradise (same as day 1). Me and the other person decided we will continue at Kokoro. The reception was very fancy and it was also situated in a very fancy neighborhood. The lady greeted us with water and some candies. We were shown a menu card. Normal AV was like 2600, with jaccuzi 500 more and Mistress sessions for 5 k, but the mistress session was to be booked in advance and only one lady was there and we had to wait 90 minutes for it. Also the rooms had various themes. In the menu various cosplay themes like nurse, cheerleader etc were shown and it was free of cost as mentioned in the website. When the lineup came, unfortunately the ladies were not that beautiful. I choose a very petite yet tall girl and mostly with fake boobs, my friend took a chubby one. He wanted a school girl cosplay but the dress did not fit his girl. But my girl as requeseted took a nurse uniform and also I paid extra for a fresh pair of fishnets.

The rooms were really well desigend, pristine clean both bath area and bed area combined. As shown in the website the shower area also had a transparent plastic chair, very similar to sukebe chairs in JAV porn. The girl stripped and also undressed me. She guided me to the shower area and asked me to sit on the chair and started bathing me. She applied soap on my full body and cleaned me very well. Then she also applied soap on her body and rubbed my whole body with her boobs. She hugged me a lot while I was sitting. Then she lied on the ground and played with me dick with her feet from the ground. Afrer that she cleaned the soap on our bodies and brought warm water in two bowls. She filled her mouth with water then took my dick in her mouth. It was a new and werid sensation. She dropped the water and filled again and did it couple of times. I was not able to give full attention to find out the utility of keeping two bowls, may be just more water. Shower finisehed and dressed in her semi transparent nurse uniform. Her nipples were very clearly visible in the dress and her vagina was visible. It seemed like a proper porn movie. She also wore the semi transparent stockings. We went to bed, here DFK was not allowed but all the usual footplay stuff was there. Again I cummed while sucking her stocking covered toes.

We had lebense food and again tried gummie bears. But this time we could hardly reach our hotel and were too scared to buy water. If it was 10 more minutes we could have been hit by car while enroute to hotel and great adventures of Pattaya would have been undiscovered for me.

Link to Pattaya http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2847098&viewfull=1#post2847098.

[Houston Player]

Doesn't Suzi Wong and Toy still have full nudity? With shows. Sometimes not constantly; they rotate. And previously, 1 or 2 more had it. Did they change? I like Thailand because they have full nudity in the go-go bars.Had a friend text me that she went to work at Long Gun so I stopped in to buy her a drink after dinner. They had full nude dancing on alternating rotations. Three different shows with whistle blowing pussies, bursting balloons with dart shooting pussies and a girl blowing out candles with air from her pussy. This was all in the one hour I was there.

Long Gun is NOT my kind of place but if you are looking for nude dancing in Soi Cowboy they do offer it.

[GreenBud]

You could be right, as I didn't go into every bar on Soi Cowboy.

So, do any gogos on Soi Cowboy have nude dancers?From December: Suzi Wong, Long Gun (I think I confused this bar with Toy). Those 2 bars always have nudity. 1 or 2 more go-go bars on the north side. Was it Dollhouse? Main stage had bikini, small stage had couple of nude girls. I like Bacarra; I like the girls with skirts on but no underwear. It's very alluring trying to peek inside. But that bar is stuck up; when it's packed on the first floor, they make you buy a drink before you enter, even though there is no space to sit on the first floor. Maybe worst if you're Indian; I see them ask them for a cover charge.


Had a friend text me that she went to work at Long Gun so I stopped in to buy her a drink after dinner. They had full nude dancing on alternating rotations. Three different shows with whistle blowing pussies, bursting balloons with dart shooting pussies and a girl blowing out candles with air from her pussy. This was all in the one hour I was there.

Long Gun is NOT my kind of place but if you are looking for nude dancing in Soi Cowboy they do offer it.I like to hold the balloons. I think it's funny.

The problem with Long Gun is that the girls are on the ugly side. Interesting bar. They've always had nudity; ever since the 90's. Must be connected.

IMO, the best looking nude girls in Soi Cowboy is Crazy House. But a lot of times, that place is packed. Hard to get a good seat. That place is where they'll ask for a tequilla AND coke; a double lady's drink.

Didn't see any full nudity at Nana Plaza. Only topless on some bars on the 2nd and 3rd floors.

I like Pattaya. More nudity.

[Newton York]

Ok, after some research, I've come to the conclusion that the genius behind the youtube channel 'Asian Night' is using one of these methods to hide his camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXXb7yYjQ2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFEy93GwE5o

If you watch his videos, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzKID6bN18

It's pretty obvious his camera is at chest or just below chest level. And when he's in a soapie filming, it's kinda tilted, so I'm thinking more of a fanny pack type deal. I mean, when he's standing right in front of people recording them, the camera is clearly at mid height of an average person. I can't get over how awesome all this is, look at around 2:30 when he's just standing there so close to the chick and she's got no clue he's recording. In less than 24 hours and the video has 35 k views already? The guy is making bank on all this. If we all did this, we could fund our debauched sex lives in Bangkok as a perpetually silent, faceless, vlogger digital nomad type dude living the high life. Oh man, I wish so hard now to make this happen for myself. And to maintain the incredibly high quality of his footage, it's got to be a gopro. I saw on one of his videos the telltale sign of the almost robotic gopro stabilization pan.

If you're just some dude walking around the busy streets of Bangkok, no one's going to notice the hole where the tiny camera lens is recording out of. You got to give the guy props though, he's got balls to go into soapies to grab footage. He's a hero as far as I'm concerned, cause we'd never be able to see cool stuff like this. Makes me feel like I'm still in Thailand. No one, not a soul notices him. It's hidden so well. I tell ya fellas. This is it for me. This is my end goal. If I'm still alive in a coupla years, and if I got the cash, this is what I want to do with the rest of my sad life. Go to Thailand, record the streets and chicks of Bangkok and upload to youtube for the income..

Imagine how awesome a life like this would be. Going around Bangkok, fucking hot chicks, then filming the streets and chicks of Bangkok and then getting paid, rinse and repeat.

[Newton York]

I personally do not like digital nomad type people, but I will like it more if one day I could become one myself and make cash money from it, ha!

So, on that note, how do you guys feel about all this? With all the camera recording going on all the time now, all the youtubers, social media people, digital nomads and tourists recording everything all the time, especially in a high tourist area like Bangkok, how do you feel about being in somebody's footage at Nana, or Cowboy or Thermae, etc. If you don't care and you got nothing to lose, then it's fine, but what if you weren't supposed to be there, and an acquaintance or a friend watching a youtube video spots you being naughty and tells your wife? I'm just sayin'. Man, this is interesting stuff fellas. I ain't married, got nobody, barely even have any friends left (because I'm fucking old), and anybody that even remembers me would remember me from way over 30 years ago, so I don't even look the same no more. So I got nothin' to lose if I'm in someone else's footage, that's why when the time comes, I'll be the one doing the recording and uploading to youtube.

We all know how many times in forums like this, some guy will ask about how many hours he'll need or where he can go cause he needs to get away from the wife to go fuck. Now imagine the same guy caught on camera on youtube, or facebook, or tiktok, or instagram and god knows what other social media shit there is. Privacy? In 2023? In Bangkok? Where literally everyone is recording everything all the time? Nuh-uh dudes, no way Jose. Ain't no such thing as privacy no more in the year of our fucked up lord 2023. World's going to hell anyway. God, I hate my life so much. Wish I could just be in Bangkok.

[PayForIt]

I personally do not like digital nomad type people, Privacy? In 2023? In Bangkok? Where literally everyone is recording everything all the time? Nuh-uh dudes, no way Jose. Ain't no such thing as privacy no moreThere are two sides to the privacy debate and laws in most countries deal with it this way: (1) anything in a public place. The street / the highway / the beach, is public and therefore not private. (2) indoors, on private premises, in gardens, patios, private swimming pools, people have a reasonable expectation of privacy and so filming "inside" is an infringement of private life.

So getting filmed walking around the streets of Bangkok / Pattaya / or anywhere else in the World is a risk married / partnered mongers take. And in any event why is it such a big deal then to be filmed walking around Nana plaza "I just wanted to see what all the fuss is about baby" would be a reasonable answer. It's not like the filming is of you doing DATY! So whilst I might not like that these people do this (I don't care if its for money or not), there is nothing wrong with it in a public place (subject to the caveat below).

But indoors is a different proposition. Is it really fair on the girls in a soapy to be filmed like this? Would they mind? Now some of them might consider it great advertising and hope for more of it. But I'm sure many would not. The punters would almost certainly mind.

But the big issue here for me is not the filming itself. It is the undercover mode of it. The question to ask is whether those being filmed would consent. If they would not, then the use of covert cameras is wrong, unfair, and an invasion of their privacy. I've got no problem if I walk down Walking Street and someone has a camera on a gimbal. I can choose to avoid being captured if I want, or turn my back / turn away or just ignore it. But I have choices because I can see it. For sure I might know that CCTV is watching every move anyway, but that's probably for security purposes / thieves / crime and I have no issue with that. But cameras in T shirts / in glasses etc? That's really sneaky. But far worse indoors. And for anyone thinking "I'm still cool with it indoors", ask yourself then if you'the be ok with a girl in a soapy having a hidden camera, then posting you on YouTube with your belly hanging out, and your boner being tiny. Still happy for that to all be out there? And if the answer to that is no, and for all of us apart from a tiny minority it would be, (other than the super ripped guys with huge cocks who might love it!) then we shouldn't want hidden cameras taking pictures close up in soapies / bars etc.

What's interesting about this guy is his own moral compass. He stops short. He takes street scenes and inside soapies where he knows everyone is dressed, but he could use this in agogos with naked girls but probably doesn't want to risk a YouTube ban.

All very underhand if you ask me.

[Goatscrot]

There are two sides to the privacy debate and laws in most countries deal with it this way: (1) anything in a public place. The street / the highway / the beach, is public and therefore not private. (2) indoors, on private premises, in gardens, patios, private swimming pools, people have a reasonable expectation of privacy and so filming "inside" is an infringement of private life.

So getting filmed walking around the streets of Bangkok / Pattaya / or anywhere else in the World is a risk married / partnered mongers take. And in any event why is it such a big deal then to be filmed walking around Nana plaza "I just wanted to see what all the fuss is about baby" would be a reasonable answer. It's not like the filming is of you doing DATY! So whilst I might not like that these people do this (I don't care if its for money or not), there is nothing wrong with it in a public place (subject to the caveat below).

But indoors is a different proposition. Is it really fair on the girls in a soapy to be filmed like this? Would they mind? Now some of them might consider it great advertising and hope for more of it. But I'm sure many would not. The punters would almost certainly mind.

But the big issue here for me is not the filming itself. It is the undercover mode of it. The question to ask is whether those being filmed would consent. If they would not, then the use of covert cameras is wrong, unfair, and an invasion of their privacy. I've got no problem if I walk down Walking Street and someone has a camera on a gimbal. I can choose to avoid being captured if I want, or turn my back / turn away or just ignore it. But I have choices because I can see it. For sure I might know that CCTV is watching every move anyway, but that's probably for security purposes / thieves / crime and I have no issue with that. But cameras in T shirts / in glasses etc? That's really sneaky. But far worse indoors. And for anyone thinking "I'm still cool with it indoors", ask yourself then if you'the be ok with a girl in a soapy having a hidden camera, then posting you on YouTube with your belly hanging out, and your boner being tiny. Still happy for that to all be out there? And if the answer to that is no, and for all of us apart from a tiny minority it would be, (other than the super ripped guys with huge cocks who might love it!) then we shouldn't want hidden cameras taking pictures close up in soapies / bars etc.

What's interesting about this guy is his own moral compass. He stops short. He takes street scenes and inside soapies where he knows everyone is dressed, but he could use this in agogos with naked girls but probably doesn't want to risk a YouTube ban.

All very underhand if you ask me.A well thought out response and mirrors my take on it exactly. I certainly miss the days when cameras were not present on mobile phones.

[NRandom940]

Has anyone here ever picked up any of the Bangkok Hooters girls? If so, tell the story.

[Rotty66]

Hey guys.

Any ideas here?Only tried it once.

We booked an escort form Absolute Angels, expensive but she was great.

[Rotty66]

I'm not dealing with a wife situation, but I also prefer simplicity so I like the massage parlor route. Arriving tomorrow and I made a booking in advance for Lily at the newly opened Smile, followed the next day by a two-lady session at Aurora 33 with Sai and May. Looking forward to being back!

To answer the other question in the post quoted, the tip is not included in the price you pay upfront at the dest at these places. 300 baht if the service is good seems to be standard, but it's up to you.How was Aurora 33?

[Montecristo]

I like Pattaya. More nudity.I know this is in the wrong thread but in Pattaya where are the Full nude go go bars other than Kink 2nd floor or Windmill?

Thanks.

[Newton York]

I'm kinda disappointed by this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8OxP76NbvA

Ok, here's a little background, so this fella is a youtuber who moved to Bangkok some years ago, and he mainly reports on his travels around Thailand, tries to push real estate and generally talks about his semi-retired life in Thailand. I give him kudos cause he's ex-military, and I suspect thru a combo of his Army pension, the dividends from his REIT holdings, and probably a huge chunk of change from mom and dad (since they own real estate in San Francisco), is how he funds his fantastic life in Thailand. And up until now, the stuff he talks about is pretty ok, non too political or anti whatever. But as of late, he's gone down this weird path I feel. I watched his videos in the past cause he's living the dream. Semi-retired in Bangkok, who doesn't want to do that? I want to do that, we all want to, but his rhetoric now is really taking the cake. He's lifting himself up above the rest of us hobbyists like he's special or unique. I mean, come on fellas. We all know, anytime a foreign dude is in Bangkok, it's not for the food, the culture, or even work. All of that stuff happens, it's fine, it's a bonus, but the main reason is always the chicks. To pretend otherwise is just ridiculous. But watch the video and you'll know what I mean.

First up, these so-called 'passport bros' are giving us normal day to day hobbyists a real bad name. Since he identifies himself as a douchebag passport bro, I'm just going to say he's an asshole now too. Cause us sex tourists, say what you will about the ethics or morality of the whole thing, we're at least honest about why we're there. Whenever possible, time and finances willing, we travel to places like Thailand, Czech Republic, etc. And pay good looking chicks to fuck. Simple, to the point, no fuss no muss. Yet douchebags like that are promoting the idea that they're in Thailand cause they like Thailand beyond any other reason than women? Really? Cause plenty other countries offer what Thailand has, except without the access to affordable chicks that Thailand has. And then they just so happen to meet some local chicks along the way, and they marry them or settle down or some shit like that. I mean come on. Like seriously. These fuckers are in Thailand the same Goddamn reason we are, to fuck chicks. The only difference about it is they're being facetious about the whole thing. Does anybody really think someone like him dates as many girls as he claims? He's no Brad Pitt. And it's quite obvious Thai chicks will only date ugly guys if they're white, if you happen to be ugly and Asian then God help you, you're only getting pussy if you cough up some cash. But if you're white but look like Danny Devito, you can still get some free pussy, absolutely.

More than half of the chicks anybody finds on those Thai dating apps are working girls anyway. It's all a transaction fellas! That's all it is. Doesn't matter if the chick is from a village, or from the city, in the end she's after cash money. Respect? I fought and nearly died in South East Asia decades ago, and Asian chicks are no better or worse than the average white chick anywhere, now or then. Look, we pay these chicks money, we fuck them and then we move on. That's why in my reviews, I always say, do not fall in love with them. Believe me I know, some of them are so sweet, and seemingly vulnerable, that you think you're being some kind of knight in shining armor coming to their rescue, saving them from their life of poverty, and all that claptrap. In the end, it all comes down to money. Why is it that we almost never hear anything negative about any of this coming from the guys themselves is cause of course they don't want to report on their failures. Especially in this ridiculous age of social media, apparently everyone's life is perfect and beautiful and you suck. But the truth is very much the opposite and occasionally you read about it, in funny local Thai news about another idiot foreigner conned, scammed or killed by his wife. And he fucking deserves it if you ask me.

These fucking passport bros man, what a disgrace. If you're going to be here to ostensibly fuck chicks, then just be honest about it. Don't pretend like it's anything else, and you think because you're some hot shit that the girl wants you? It's the money you douche! Youtubers like him make it seem so easy and convenient to just go and live in Thailand and every other country in the world sucks because we're not there, but you know what? He often conveniently forgets to add the simple fact that he can fund his lifestyle in Thailand, because he's an American with US Dollars. See if he thinks he can do that if he was local. And the weird thing about the guy is how he seems to forget that he's not white. Listen to him talk and he seems to think like he's a white guy himself. Being a white guy in Thailand is like having a superpower. It comes with a huge responsibility, Asian chicks fall at your feet just cause your skin is pale. When you look like a local Thai like he does, no chick is going to give two shits about you, so I don't know what the hell he's going on about dating chicks. It's pretty obvious the only way he's getting laid in Thailand is if he forks out the cash. Ain't no way he's getting any for free.

Every foreign guy in Thailand, and I mean literally every foreign guy in Thailand, no exceptions whatsoever, is there to fuck. That's the primary goal. As hobbyists, we are true to ourselves, we arrive, we fuck and then we leave. These fucking digital nomad types, acting all high and mighty like they're better than everyone else just pisses me off. Cambodia, Vietnam, malaysia, Indonesia, all these other countries are just next door, but why aren't they as popular? Cause the chicks there aren't as readily available as in Thailand. If you're white, every Thai chick is yours. Every single one of them is yours if you want them, you just have to show up. But to pretend like you're in Thailand cause you like the culture, or weather, or whatever shit is nonsense. The weather? You can get the same humid hot weather in freaking Florida. The food? You can find Thai restaurants all over the freaking planet. Everything that Thailand has offer beyond the girls is a bonus, let's not delude ourselves to think otherwise. Without Thai chicks, we wouldn't be in Thailand, period.

I want to retire in Thailand too. Very much so. I want to be an idiot digital nomad too. But I'm honest about it, and I won't be putting my face in videos for the world to see, telling everyone how they suck cause they're not doing what he's doing. Jesus H Christ. Fuckers like him are so clueless about their own hypocrisy and can't even see the irony of it all. I mean, he plays a clip where a blonde chick talks about how in Thailand, every interracial couple is a white guy and a Thai chick. I mean, no duh! Everyone knows that already, it's a universal truth, being a white guy in Asia is a freaking superpower, we all know this, but the fact that the guy plays the clip with no irony at all is amazing cause he himself is Asian. The only reason he exists is because his mom couldn't find a white guy to marry at the time. Holy shit man.

Most of us here in this forum operate at a level that is the very antithesis of a 'passport bro'. We live where we live, when cash and time permit we fly to Thailand to fuck, and then we leave. Anonymity, secrecy and privacy is paramount. We give these chicks money, no relationships or entanglements. Very easy. But so-called passport bros just fuck shit up. Cause they're creating this false narrative that Thai chicks are actually really into them when we all know it couldn't be further from the truth. Respect? Cooking and cleaning and raising the kids? First of all who the hell wants to put a ring on it? What idiot really wants to do that? Second, I've seen many, many white guy Asian chick marriages in my time, and believe you me, the Asian chick is not much better than any other type of chick. It's not the race of the girl that makes her a good partner, it's her personality for God's sakes. If you're alive long enough to be married to a 60 year old hag, she's a hag, no matter what the race. These fucking passport bros, stop with the virtue signalling and all that nonsense. You're in Thailand for the same reason. Just admit it.

[Newton York]

To further my point, take the case of the Bali nine in Indonesia, a cavalcade of idiot australians did some drug shit there, they got caught, and guess which ones were executed and which ones were spared? Thats right! The 2 Asian australian fellas were executed (one chinese looking dude and another indian probably) while the white australian guy was spared, still alive and kicking and having a nice, relaxed time in his tropical prison cell in beautiful Bali. They'll probably just let him go one day to serve the rest of his sentence back in shitty Australia, when he's mentioned himself he'd rather continue staying there, cause who the hell doesn't want to live in Bali? Jesus H Christ! I tell ya fellas, if you're lucky enough to be white, you have to know how to utilize it. White privilege is a very real thing and especially applies to third world countries. Be where you get treated like a God. Don't continue to stay in the states or Canada or europe or whatever where you're just some random guy. Go to South America, South East Asia, Africa, believe you me, from my experiences, you get treated like you're the smartest, richest, most amazing man in the room. Even if you look like Jack Black or Danny Devito. Hell, in South Korea and China these days, you get paid for just being a white guy standing around in the office. Think I'm kidding? Look at the reports that come out of Thailand here itself, the kind of insane shit some white dudes pull, the Thai cops haul you in for a second, maybe you pay a small fine, then you walk out. Trust me I know. Who was the last white guy executed for drugs in Thailand? I can't even remember it's been so long, but they execute local Thai's every freakin' day. Live like a king, be worshipped like a God in South East Asia. Even in the single richest and most advanced country in the world - Singapore, I can get pussy even though I'm ugly as sin and old as hell.

[Raj Patela]

I know this is in the wrong thread but in Pattaya where are the Full nude go go bars other than Kink 2nd floor or Windmill?

Thanks.I'm assuming you asking because Naked ugly chicks aren't your thing. No offense to those who like it.

Correct answer there is No such thing where Hot Gurls are buck Nekkid.

[Raj Patela]

To further my point, take the case of the Bali nine in Indonesia, a cavalcade of idiot australians did some drug shit there, they got caught, and guess which ones were executed and which ones were spared? Thats right! The 2 Asian australian fellas were executed (one chinese looking dude and another indian probably) while the white australian guy was spared, still alive and kicking and having a nice, relaxed time in his tropical prison cell in beautiful Bali. They'll probably just let him go one day to serve the rest of his sentence back in shitty Australia, when he's mentioned himself he'd rather continue staying there, cause who the hell doesn't want to live in Bali? Jesus H Christ! I tell ya fellas, if you're lucky enough to be white, you have to know how to utilize it. White privilege is a very real thing and especially applies to third world countries. Be where you get treated like a God. Don't continue to stay in the states or Canada or europe or whatever where you're just some random guy. Go to South America, South East Asia, Africa, believe you me, from my experiences, you get treated like you're the smartest, richest, most amazing man in the room. Even if you look like Jack Black or Danny Devito. Hell, in South Korea and China these days, you get paid for just being a white guy standing around in the office. Think I'm kidding? Look at the reports that come out of Thailand here itself, the kind of insane shit some white dudes pull, the Thai cops haul you in for a second, maybe you pay a small fine, then you walk out. Trust me I know. Who was the last white guy executed for drugs in Thailand? I can't even remember it's been so long, but they execute local Thai's every freakin' day. Live like a king, be worshipped like a God in South East Asia. Even in the single richest and most advanced country in the world - Singapore, I can get pussy even though I'm ugly as sin and old as hell.Forrest hate old white European sex tourists, he made that abundantly clear a few years ago. Quite Funny his rant.

[Montecristo]

I'm assuming you asking because Naked ugly chicks aren't your thing. No offense to those who like it.

Correct answer there is No such thing where Hot Gurls are buck Nekkid.You haven't gone to Patong beach in Phuket, at go go bars like Suzy Wong you would have changed your opinion.

[CaliGuy33]

Been in Bangkok a few days now and some observations:

Some talk on this thread about passport bros. First time I came to Thailand in 2017 you never saw African Americans, fast forward six years and you see them here and there. But you also see female African Americans. I don't think passport bros is good for the traditional mongering scene, has nothing to do with race but to do with the effect of it driving prices up which has happens in Colombia and Dominican Republic. Hopefully SEA is too isolated for it to happen.

I went to Cherry Massage, review in the appropriate thread when I get a chance, but had a good experience, but unlikely to repeat.

My focus in BKK has been civvies and it's gone decent so far, the mongering I'll do in Pattaya (cheaper and more options).

Have taken multiple strolls through the freelancer areas and Nana Plaza and haven't seen one above average girl; with freelancers quoting 2,000 to 3,000 and a few 1,500.

With the lack of talent, I don't see the point in paying those prices as I can just wait for Pattaya and get 1,000-1,500 bht ST sessions.

I've actually been mainly sightseeing and eating good, phone is blowing up with texts from civvies and I'm not all that interested; went on a few dates and found them boring.

Met an Italian tourist while sightseeing at a temple. We ended up chatting and walked around together for a while. Eventually ended back at my hotel for some Italiana fun. She had a nice, curvacious body, serving as a nice change to the typical Thai girl's body. I ate her holes out good and smashed her fat ass in doggy which was an excellent view with her thicc arse.

It's an underrated tactic for a monger to focus a little on fellow western tourists for some action.

Anyways, life is good outside the matrix of the US and here in LOS. Good food, good coffee, good ass.

[Raj Patela]

You haven't gone to Patong beach in Phuket, at go go bars like Suzy Wong you would have changed your opinion.No I have not been there. You got me.

[CityHunter77]

It's an underrated tactic for a monger to focus a little on fellow western tourists for some action.

Anyways, life is good outside the matrix of the US and here in LOS. Good food, good coffee, good ass.Nice one, you must have some good rizz.

Did you meet the local ladies on ThaiFriendly?

[BigBalls83]

Recently, I have seen mom and daughter escort porn in Thailand, curious if it is a real thing. Not interested in underage or some weird stuff, just 2 chicks that are mom and daughter.

[Wayne Roberts]

I'm kinda disappointed by this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8OxP76NbvA

Ok, here's a little background, so this fella is a youtuber who moved to Bangkok some years ago, and he mainly reports on his travels around Thailand, tries to push real estate and generally talks about his semi-retired life in Thailand. I give him kudos cause he's ex-military, and I suspect thru a combo of his Army pension, the dividends from his REIT holdings, and probably a huge chunk of change from mom and dad (since they own real estate in San Francisco), is how he funds his fantastic life in Thailand. And up until now, the stuff he talks about is pretty ok, non too political or anti whatever. But as of late, he's gone down this weird path I feel. I watched his videos in the past cause he's living the dream. Semi-retired in Bangkok, who doesn't want to do that? I want to do that, we all want to, but his rhetoric now is really taking the cake. He's lifting himself up above the rest of us hobbyists like he's special or unique. I mean, come on fellas. We all know, anytime a foreign dude is in Bangkok, it's not for the food, the culture, or even work. All of that stuff happens, it's fine, it's a bonus, but the main reason is always the chicks. To pretend otherwise is just ridiculous. But watch the video and you'll know what I mean.

First up, these so-called 'passport bros' are giving us normal day to day hobbyists a real bad name. Since he identifies himself as a douchebag passport bro, I'm just going to say he's an asshole now too. Cause us sex tourists, say what you will about the ethics or morality of the whole thing, we're at least honest about why we're there. Whenever possible, time and finances willing, we travel to places like Thailand, Czech Republic, etc. And pay good looking chicks to fuck. Simple, to the point, no fuss no muss. Yet douchebags like that are promoting the idea that they're in Thailand cause they like Thailand beyond any other reason than women? Really? Cause plenty other countries offer what Thailand has, except without the access to affordable chicks that Thailand has. And then they just so happen to meet some local chicks along the way, and they marry them or settle down or some shit like that. I mean come on. Like seriously. These fuckers are in Thailand the same Goddamn reason we are, to fuck chicks. The only difference about it is they're being facetious about the whole thing. Does anybody really think someone like him dates as many girls as he claims? He's no Brad Pitt. And it's quite obvious Thai chicks will only date ugly guys if they're white, if you happen to be ugly and Asian then God help you, you're only getting pussy if you cough up some cash. But if you're white but look like Danny Devito, you can still get some free pussy, absolutely.
What a load of nonsense.

Thailand has more to offer than just cheap sex and its nightlife. It offers an affordable lifestyle at a low cost of living, good healthcare, its safe, the weather is great, beautiful nature, nice people, decent infrastructure for a developing country, great airport links to the rest of the world, decent food, great shopping, etc.

IT makes perfect sense that people who can afford to retire there or work remotely from Thailand would look to do that, and the fact that you have access to better dating options and paid sex that is not illegal is the massive cherry on top for a lot of guys.

So personally I do not get what your issue with them is. The west is taking men for granted, so a lot of them are checking out and moving abroad to countries where they believe they can have a better life. They are doing it legally, they are paying their way and they are making the most of their opportunities. Why is this a problem for you?

Sure, there is a subset of them posting things in the internet to generate clicks, its how some of them are trying to sustain themselves. Stop watching their videos or content if it bugs you, I have no idea who has the time in the day to watch all those videos anyway. How many more youtube videos do you need to watch about Thailand at this point?

You have clearly never lived in Thailand or any Asian countries. There are millions of expats that live in the region, and the vast majority of them end up meeting, dating and even marrying women who are not hookers. Its bizarre that you think your jaunts up and down Sukhimviht into Soi Cowbuy, Nana Plaza and the blowjob bars are somehow an indication of what every tourist and foreigner in Thailand is up to. Most Asian women err on the more conservative side, so they are not interested in having one night stands with random tourists who are looking to hit and run. If they know you are going to be there a while though, then they are almost all open to dating and more if you check their boxes too. Same as it ever was all over the world.

Lastly you are a *****monger. You have no good name, you are a degenerate like the rest of us. We give women money to stick things in them, spare us the judgement of others please.

[Raj Patela]

Been in Bangkok a few days now and some observations:

Some talk on this thread about passport bros. First time I came to Thailand in 2017 you never saw African Americans, fast forward six years and you see them here and there. But you also see female African Americans. I don't think passport bros is good for the traditional mongering scene, has nothing to do with race but to do with the effect of it driving prices up which has happens in Colombia and Dominican Republic. Hopefully SEA is too isolated for it to happen.

I went to Cherry Massage, review in the appropriate thread when I get a chance, but had a good experience, but unlikely to repeat.

My focus in BKK has been civvies and it's gone decent so far, the mongering I'll do in Pattaya (cheaper and more options).

Have taken multiple strolls through the freelancer areas and Nana Plaza and haven't seen one above average girl; with freelancers quoting 2,000 to 3,000 and a few 1,500.

With the lack of talent, I don't see the point in paying those prices as I can just wait for Pattaya and get 1,000-1,500 bht ST sessions.

I've actually been mainly sightseeing and eating good, phone is blowing up with texts from civvies and I'm not all that interested; went on a few dates and found them boring.

Met an Italian tourist while sightseeing at a temple. We ended up chatting and walked around together for a while. Eventually ended back at my hotel for some Italiana fun. She had a nice, curvacious body, serving as a nice change to the typical Thai girl's body. I ate her holes out good and smashed her fat ass in doggy which was an excellent view with her thicc arse.

It's an underrated tactic for a monger to focus a little on fellow western tourists for some action.

Anyways, life is good outside the matrix of the US and here in LOS. Good food, good coffee, good ass.Thicc you say. Hahaha.

[Raj Patela]

Unicorn s and Rainbows.

I think Rainbow s in Nana Plaza are going more for Girls who specialize in Good Service as opposed to those who just Look Good.

[Wayne Roberts]

Been in Bangkok a few days now and some observations:

Some talk on this thread about passport bros. First time I came to Thailand in 2017 you never saw African Americans, fast forward six years and you see them here and there. But you also see female African Americans. I don't think passport bros is good for the traditional mongering scene, has nothing to do with race but to do with the effect of it driving prices up which has happens in Colombia and Dominican Republic. Hopefully SEA is too isolated for it to happen.

I went to Cherry Massage, review in the appropriate thread when I get a chance, but had a good experience, but unlikely to repeat.

My focus in BKK has been civvies and it's gone decent so far, the mongering I'll do in Pattaya (cheaper and more options).

Have taken multiple strolls through the freelancer areas and Nana Plaza and haven't seen one above average girl; with freelancers quoting 2,000 to 3,000 and a few 1,500.

With the lack of talent, I don't see the point in paying those prices as I can just wait for Pattaya and get 1,000-1,500 bht ST sessions.

I've actually been mainly sightseeing and eating good, phone is blowing up with texts from civvies and I'm not all that interested; went on a few dates and found them boring.

Met an Italian tourist while sightseeing at a temple. We ended up chatting and walked around together for a while. Eventually ended back at my hotel for some Italiana fun. She had a nice, curvacious body, serving as a nice change to the typical Thai girl's body. I ate her holes out good and smashed her fat ass in doggy which was an excellent view with her thicc arse.

It's an underrated tactic for a monger to focus a little on fellow western tourists for some action.

Anyways, life is good outside the matrix of the US and here in LOS. Good food, good coffee, good ass.The passport bro thing is only getting started I think. Its really turning into a bit of a cultural movement, a lot of men are checking out. I can't say I blame them in the slightest to be honest.

I agree with your assessment though, I think they are going to create demand side issues long term. The more men who head to these destinations, the higher prices will tend to go and the worse the attitudes of the girls will tend to get. It is what it is, on the flip side maybe the men swarming all these places resulted in proper industries forming like we see in Germany, Brazil and Thailand of old. So maybe the opposite happens. I think given how online most of the passport bros will likely be, many of them are going to be hunting there.

As for the quality of the options in Thailand, I agree with you. The situation on the ground is absolutely dire right now. Anyone who says otherwise is blind or has been banging average looking women for cheap sex for so long they can't tell the difference. Quite frankly I think a lot of the girls are moving online and freelancing, they are not working the streets and the bars as much. This is not great for those who enjoy meeting the ladies when they are out and about, or at least being able to vet them a bit. I personally think that the bar and gogo scene is in a lot of trouble and its going to have to consolidate at some point. Women simply don't need them to meet men and punters anymore.

[NRandom940]

Has anyone here ever successfully "bar fined" either the bartenders in the bars where the freelancers hang out, or (especially) any of the Bangkok Hooters girls? Please tell stories about how you did it.

Especially the Hooters stories.

[CaliGuy33]

Nice one, you must have some good rizz.

Did you meet the local ladies on ThaiFriendly?Yes the local girls off TF. But honestly there's not much quality on TF and the dates are boring. I was simply hoping to find a civvie worth taking on some travel trips around the country but I'the rather go alone than with any of the ladies I've met. I'm also not white, so white bros will likely have more success at quality civvies than non-whites, it's just the way it is. The ladies have preferences just as we do, so it is what it is.

[Confiable]

Been in Bangkok a few days now and some observations:

Some talk on this thread about passport bros. First time I came to Thailand in 2017 you never saw African Americans, fast forward six years and you see them here and there. But you also see female African Americans. I don't think passport bros is good for the traditional mongering scene, has nothing to do with race but to do with the effect of it driving prices up which has happens in Colombia and Dominican Republic. Hopefully SEA is too isolated for it to happen.Long before 2017, social media, and monger websites, I have seen Blacks in Thailand during my trips. Maybe not in the high numbers as other groups of people but who cares. People have constantly complained about prices in the DR, Columbia, Brazil, and Thailand long before passport bros name was ever created or thought about. People will continue to complain about prices or a bad trip / experience but that will not stop others from enjoying their trip and still not overpay.

[South Blr Paw]

Hello friends.

Can someone update about the list of clubs the Russians / Uzbeks and white freelancers are hanging out these days?

I use to frequent Shock, Bossy and MiXx.

What's the current situation? Appreciate your inputs.

[NewYorkGuy]

Recently, I have seen mom and daughter escort porn in Thailand, curious if it is a real thing. Not interested in underage or some weird stuff, just 2 chicks that are mom and daughter.I doubt it is real, mother daughter porn usually uses girls at least 10 years apart in age. But Thailand is a very conservative society, very doubtful such an arrangement would make regular life easy or even come up as a possibility in real mother daughter relationships. I assume it would look deranged to most Thai people and you have to remember that Thailand is not as sexually liberated as the West. Besides, think of it like this, how many of us would fuck our own mothers, that's probably what most Thais think also. But please, no one actually answer that question. I don't want to know, I think many of us feel the same way.

[VikPunter]

Nice one, you must have some good rizz.

Did you meet the local ladies on ThaiFriendly?I had tried Badoo sometime back with a lot of success but this is a few years ago. Not sure if this is still popular.

For more recent experiences, is Tinder, Seeking or Bumble better? Or stick with Thai Friendly?

[CityHunter77]

I had tried Badoo sometime back with a lot of success but this is a few years ago. Not sure if this is still popular.

For more recent experiences, is Tinder, Seeking or Bumble better? Or stick with Thai Friendly?I haven't used any yet. Hopefully will try and use TF on my next trip to LOS.

[Nyezhov]

Hello friends.

Can someone update about the list of clubs the Russians / Uzbeks and white freelancers are hanging out these days?

I use to frequent Shock, Bossy and MiXx.

What's the current situation? Appreciate your inputs.I've been asking that same question and haven't had a response. I have yet to see a white hooker anywhere, and Mixx is dead.


The passport bro thing is only getting started I think. Its really turning into a bit of a cultural movement, a lot of men are checking out. I can't say I blame them in the slightest to be honest.

I agree with your assessment though, I think they are going to create demand side issues long term. The more men who head to these destinations, the higher prices will tend to go and the worse the attitudes of the girls will tend to get. It is what it is, on the flip side maybe the men swarming all these places resulted in proper industries forming like we see in Germany, Brazil and Thailand of old. So maybe the opposite happens. I think given how online most of the passport bros will likely be, many of them are going to be hunting there.

As for the quality of the options in Thailand, I agree with you. The situation on the ground is absolutely dire right now. Anyone who says otherwise is blind or has been banging average looking women for cheap sex for so long they can't tell the difference..I'm not blind and I do fine, and I think what I bang is hot. Just have to know where to look.


I had tried Badoo sometime back with a lot of success but this is a few years ago. Not sure if this is still popular.

For more recent experiences, is Tinder, Seeking or Bumble better? Or stick with Thai Friendly?Tinder is worthless IMHO.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Has anyone here ever successfully "bar fined" either the bartenders in the bars where the freelancers hang out, or (especially) any of the Bangkok Hooters girls? Please tell stories about how you did it.

Especially the Hooters stories.Hooters doesn't have any form of bar fining available.

But the girls are only to ready to go for drinks, if they're interested in you, and single.

What price, gift, or not they set is then between the two of you.

Most have Instagram pages.

And I am friends with a few, and yes, I have had drinks away from work.

Sadly, I have never had one that got into a discussion that would have led to an agreement to cross the line.

[MissionAsia]

Just wanted to ask everyone what their policy is for DATY. Having a cute young thing sit her ass down on my face is one of the best things in this world, but I'm always a bit cautious with the working ladies.

Usually I let myself get carried away in the moment though.

[Nyezhov]

Just wanted to ask everyone what their policy is for DATY. Having a cute young thing sit her ass down on my face is one of the best things in this world, but I'm always a bit cautious with the working ladies.

Usually I let myself get carried away in the moment though.I wouldn't eat any girl that would lower herself to the point of having sex with me.

[CaliGuy33]

Just wanted to ask everyone what their policy is for DATY. Having a cute young thing sit her ass down on my face is one of the best things in this world, but I'm always a bit cautious with the working ladies.

Usually I let myself get carried away in the moment though.I try not to. My first session back in bkk I just couldn't help myself and I went all in and ate the holes. Had a bit of a sore throat the next day, probably unrelated.

This is why it would be nice to have a civvie in the rotation, to do the more unsafe acts with.

[CaliGuy33]

Had a date with a 30 year old chick last evening.

Decided to meet at a BtS Station. I showed up on time, of course knowing Thai time I didn't expect her to be there. At a distance, I saw the tiniest, slim lady with her back to me wearing a small top with tight jeans, the outfit accentuating her tight frame nicely. I thought to myself, if only she was my date. I approached the lady for a closer look, being the pervert that I am, and to my surprise, it was the lady I had a date with. Her face is average at best, but goodness that body. We walked to a Thai restaurant, past a construction zone with the construction workers staring at her tight frame and me giving the bro nod. I pity these guys having to work outdoors all day in that heat and humidity whilst being paid shit. Anyways, had a good night with this petite treat and she's the first lady I'll consider for LT travel; not having to pay an LT fee will do wonders for my budget.

Took another stroll around the FLer zones and not a decent looking girl in sight.

Of course the opposite is true walking around the malls and BTS, just beautiful civvie gurls everywhere. It would be something to live in bkk as a young farang with all the beautiful young ladies.

I head to Pattaya tomorrow, but have enjoyed my time in bkk mostly just sight seeing, walking hours a day at parks and random neighborhoods and eating good. Ass just hasn't been a priority for me in my week in bkk, as I've enjoyed the simple things; guessing that changes in Patts, to be determined.

[Goatscrot]

Just wanted to ask everyone what their policy is for DATY. Having a cute young thing sit her ass down on my face is one of the best things in this world, but I'm always a bit cautious with the working ladies.
To quote the immortal El T, if those things aren't happening, it's not real sex.

Usually I let myself get carried away in the moment though.I DATY and rim, of course after checking for unpleasant odors, herpes lesions, or warts which upon finding would call the whole session off anyway. If no DFK, no DATY, and no rimming, might as well just go for a BJ or stay at home and mastrobe the bait.
Without those it doesn't fit my definition of "real sex, " to borrow El T's term.
And, if you put your focus on trying your best to see that she has a good time, you'll have a better time. Can you get issues from it? Well yes, but that's only happened to me once. DATY on Soi 6 at 1am was not a good idea. But that was 20 years ago and I was absolutely hammered that night. Ah, the good old days.

[Kryptographer]

I'm sure a lot of Mongers here have used Fiwfans. Though the site is great, navigating without understanding Thai is challenging.

Personally, I prefer to read through a lot of reviews before selecting a girl.

In Fiwfans, I see a lot of reviewers posting reviews, and it does have a leaderboard kind of thing. Does anyone know an English reviewer who posts genuine and detailed reviews?

Cheers!

[VikPunter]

I've been asking that same question and haven't had a response. I have yet to see a white hooker anywhere, and Mixx is dead.

I'm not blind and I do fine, and I think what I bang is hot. Just have to know where to look.

Tinder is worthless IMHO.Thanks Nyezhov. Is Mixx closed or just not great for mongering anymore? I did plan to go in my Sep visit.

How is seeking app in Thailand if anybody has had experience?

[South Blr Paw]

Any inputs are appreciated.

They were also girls in Grace coffees shop lobby but quality is bad.


Hello friends.

Can someone update about the list of clubs the Russians / Uzbeks and white freelancers are hanging out these days?

I use to frequent Shock, Bossy and MiXx.

What's the current situation? Appreciate your inputs.


I've been asking that same question and haven't had a response. I have yet to see a white hooker anywhere, and Mixx is dead.

I'm not blind and I do fine, and I think what I bang is hot. Just have to know where to look.

Tinder is worthless IMHO.

[NewImage]

I try not to. My first session back in bkk I just couldn't help myself and I went all in and ate the holes. Had a bit of a sore throat the next day, probably unrelated.
This is why it would be nice to have a civvie in the rotation, to do the more unsafe acts with.Coca Colar kills everything.

[Goatscrot]

I try not to. My first session back in bkk I just couldn't help myself and I went all in and ate the holes. Had a bit of a sore throat the next day, probably unrelated.

This is why it would be nice to have a civvie in the rotation, to do the more unsafe acts with.Civvies as you call them, are probably up to more unprotected sex than their P4 P counterparts. And you don't want to know what the Thai BFs are up to.

[Nyezhov]

Thanks Nyezhov. Is Mixx closed or just not great for mongering anymore? I did plan to go in my Sep visit.

How is seeking app in Thailand if anybody has had experience?There has been a couple of minor reports here and there and my street sources have told me its dead. I don't know why I haven't checked, other than the fact that by midnight I'm too wore out to check, even though its on my way home.

My advice to first timers or even second or third timers is to avoid FIW, and TF and Tindwer and all that. Get out on the streets boys.

[Hitman2]

Correct answer there is No such thing where Hot Gurls are buck Nekkid.Wrong! Just yesterday I went to the original Suzy Wong at Soi Seadragon in Patong. Really beautiful girls up there. The moment they climb up to the center, pants and bras drop.

[Nyezhov]

Any inputs are appreciated.

They were also girls in Grace coffees shop lobby but quality is bad.10 years ago.

[TnJed]

I posted the following in the Pattaya thread but want to post it here in case I can get a different perspective.

My first trip to LOS is coming this December. Basically flying in late on a Friday night for 15 days. Since I'm coming in late at night, I booked myself in a Bangkok hotel for the weekend. I've also booked a hotel for Mon through the following Sunday in Pattaya. That leaves me with 6 more nights. Do I book more time in Pattaya? Go back to Bangkok? Or go someplace like Chiang Mai? Special note is I'm I long time hobbyist but I also like to experience the countries I visit. Any advice?

[TConor]

I posted the following in the Pattaya thread but want to post it here in case I can get a different perspective.

My first trip to LOS is coming this December. Basically flying in late on a Friday night for 15 days. Since I'm coming in late at night, I booked myself in a Bangkok hotel for the weekend. I've also booked a hotel for Mon through the following Sunday in Pattaya. That leaves me with 6 more nights. Do I book more time in Pattaya? Go back to Bangkok? Or go someplace like Chiang Mai? Special note is I'm I long time hobbyist but I also like to experience the countries I visit. Any advice?It is high season for hotel occupancy, but there are a million rooms available in CM, P, and BKK. You may pay a slightly higher price booking as you go rather than booking 3 months in advance. But the experience will be well worth it if you get a boots on the ground feeling for the place. You will not be tied down to some schedule this way.

[CaliGuy33]

Coca Colar kills everything.Are you serious about drinking coke after?

A few things in general I try and do, per a post from here a few months ago, spray alcohol on your junk right after the deed and try and urinate as soon as possible after the deed. Obviously using mouthwash right after as well.

[TnJed]

It is high season for hotel occupancy, but there are a million rooms available in CM, P, and BKK. You may pay a slightly higher price booking as you go rather than booking 3 months in advance. But the experience will be well worth it if you get a boots on the ground feeling for the place. You will not be tied down to some schedule this way.I appreciate your feedback. I've been going back and forth on this but your point about leaving my options open until I get there is appealing. I've considered doing that because I may have a great time at one of these two and wish for flexibility. A few extra $ on hotels and potential flights may be worth it.

[Adisinghal]

There are listings of Russian girls on MR and Eurogirls so I suppose that's an option for us folks. The prices will be high no doubt!

Has anyone tried any of these girls from MR or Eurogirls?


There has been a couple of minor reports here and there and my street sources have told me its dead. I don't know why I haven't checked, other than the fact that by midnight I'm too wore out to check, even though its on my way home.

My advice to first timers or even second or third timers is to avoid FIW, and TF and Tindwer and all that. Get out on the streets boys.

[TConor]

I appreciate your feedback. I've been going back and forth on this but your point about leaving my options open until I get there is appealing. I've considered doing that because I may have a great time at one of these two and wish for flexibility. A few extra $ on hotels and potential flights may be worth it.You score a real winner with the right chemistry and stick with her. And her roommate (s), sister, mother, or ladyboy friend.

[Nyezhov]

You score a real winner with the right chemistry and stick with her. And her roommate (s), sister, mother, or ladyboy friend.Why would anybody stick with one girl on their first trip to Thailand is beyond me? I don't care how much of a winner and how much chemistry, you're in thailand, they're everywhere.

[Raj Patela]

Why would anybody stick with one girl on their first trip to Thailand is beyond me? I don't care how much of a winner and how much chemistry, you're in thailand, they're everywhere.Not all girls are the same bro. If you like one do her till you can't do her anymore.

The 3 day rule is silly.

[Nyezhov]

There are listings of Russian girls on MR and Eurogirls so I suppose that's an option for us folks. The prices will be high no doubt!

Has anyone tried any of these girls from MR or Eurogirls?At the prices they ask, save up and go to Europe.

[TooDirty]

Not all girls are the same bro. If you like one do her till you can't do her anymore.

The 3 day rule is silly.Not if you read some of the horror stories. You give some of these girls the wrong idea, and they can make your life miserable. Like Monkey House miserable.

[TnJed]

Why would anybody stick with one girl on their first trip to Thailand is beyond me? I don't care how much of a winner and how much chemistry, you're in thailand, they're everywhere.I expect to be a butterfly on this trip. I want to taste all that Thai ladies offer.

[Nyezhov]

Not all girls are the same bro. If you like one do her till you can't do her anymore.

The 3 day rule is silly.I've been at this since the 80's. The 3 day rule is silly. Mine is 5 half hour sessions. If one is good, the next could be better.

If I was young, it would be two differents a night.

[Raj Patela]

My only report on 7 days in Bangkok.

Friday and Sat Rainbow 4 was hopping mad.

Fri and Sat Rain 5 was kind of Sad.

Don't know how Angeles Witch gets so much Love. I pas by at 9 pm it's like No customers ever.

[South Blr Paw]

Was there any visa changes that happened?

Pre Covid, they were many pick up joints these girls used to hangout.

Why suddenly it stopped?


There has been a couple of minor reports here and there and my street sources have told me its dead. I don't know why I haven't checked, other than the fact that by midnight I'm too wore out to check, even though its on my way home.


My advice to first timers or even second or third timers is to avoid FIW, and TF and Tindwer and all that. Get out on the streets boys.

[Lcale1982]

I'm sure a lot of Mongers here have used Fiwfans. Though the site is great, navigating without understanding Thai is challenging.

Personally, I prefer to read through a lot of reviews before selecting a girl.

In Fiwfans, I see a lot of reviewers posting reviews, and it does have a leaderboard kind of thing. Does anyone know an English reviewer who posts genuine and detailed reviews?

Cheers!Some agencies give you discounts for posting reviews so you can't trust them all. All pics pretty much expect there to be photoshop if you didn't figure that out yet. Not sure which forum I saw it on but someone mentioned fiwfans took down his negative review LOL.

[Chop]

The 3 day rule is silly.Well, yes and no.

Not pointing fingers. Most of the guys here have been around the block enough times to indeed make the 3 day rule, as you say, silly.

But there are plenty of freshly divorced or recently arrived / retired or whatever guys who just aren't smart enough to realize that the hottie that's 30+ years younger than them that's banging them for money (and cleaning the apartment, and cooking, etc.) is gaming them. Subtleties and detailed explanations (like: You let her move in? WTF is wrong with you? She wants you to meet her family? HELL NO.) are wasted on these guys. Just toss the three day rule at them, wish them luck, and move on.

Again, not pointing fingers, but simple people need simple rules.

[Zam007]

Gentlemen!

Sorry if this is not the right thread. But, this thread seems to be the most active one around and I am sure there are others who have had the same experience as I do.

Over the years I have been traveling to Bangkok, I built a solid list of contacts in my line account and I had them all saved.

I used to keep in touch with a few of them.

This included women who have stopped working regularly in MPs or Escorting, but they would visit me whenever I was in bkk.

They all continue to be in good shape, just that they found other normal jobs elsewhere in Bangkok.

Unfortunately, I had to change my phone and when I tried to reinstall the app in the new phone, I got the message that I was blocked for the next 52 days!

So, I emailed the customer care and they have replied that I tried to solicit, hence I was blocked!

Is there any way to get out of this mess and get access to my old contacts?

I had a few gems there.

[Raj Patela]

Well, yes and no.

Not pointing fingers. Most of the guys here have been around the block enough times to indeed make the 3 day rule, as you say, silly.

But there are plenty of freshly divorced or recently arrived / retired or whatever guys who just aren't smart enough to realize that the hottie that's 30+ years younger than them that's banging them for money (and cleaning the apartment, and cooking, etc.) is gaming them. Subtleties and detailed explanations (like: You let her move in? WTF is wrong with you? She wants you to meet her family? HELL NO.) are wasted on these guys. Just toss the three day rule at them, wish them luck, and move on.

Again, not pointing fingers, but simple people need simple rules.I approve this Post.

What are these guys thinking. One Pattaya guy has a budget of $80,000 or so. Doesn't even seem to be having fun. He makes it sound like a Chore service ING Bargirls.

[Axel Heyst]

Why would anybody stick with one girl on their first trip to Thailand is beyond me? I don't care how much of a winner and how much chemistry, you're in thailand, they're everywhere.

Not all girls are the same bro. If you like one do her till you can't do her anymore. The 3 day rule is silly.Hey, wait a minute. You guys are both right. There are pluses and minuses to both strategies. That is why I allow myself the freedom to get into LT relationships with certain working girls whom I think are special. These GFE relations can go on for years and they are great fun. Amazing reunion sex can go on for days. But at the same time, I need variety, lots of variety, and new girls! That's why no matter how great a girl is, I will never allow myself to get into a monogamous relationship with her. The 3-date rule exists to protect newbies from their own desires until they understand the game. Once they understand the way things really are, mongers generally become inoculated against the dangers of taking things too far I. E. Falling in love. 555.

[CanMore91]

I'm sure a lot of Mongers here have used Fiwfans. Though the site is great, navigating without understanding Thai is challenging.

Personally, I prefer to read through a lot of reviews before selecting a girl.

In Fiwfans, I see a lot of reviewers posting reviews, and it does have a leaderboard kind of thing. Does anyone know an English reviewer who posts genuine and detailed reviews?

Cheers!Hey! So thanks for providing this site. Was looking for something like it. I couldn't see many English reviewers but I'll be taking the plunge with one or two tomorrow and can keep you posted on what I find. Some of this reviews seem fake so I'm curious to see how it goes.

[Somewhere15]

Gentlemen!

Sorry if this is not the right thread. But, this thread seems to be the most active one around and I am sure there are others who have had the same experience as I do.

Over the years I have been traveling to Bangkok, I built a solid list of contacts in my line account and I had them all saved.

I used to keep in touch with a few of them.

This included women who have stopped working regularly in MPs or Escorting, but they would visit me whenever I was in bkk.

They all continue to be in good shape, just that they found other normal jobs elsewhere in Bangkok.

Unfortunately, I had to change my phone and when I tried to reinstall the app in the new phone, I got the message that I was blocked for the next 52 days!

So, I emailed the customer care and they have replied that I tried to solicit, hence I was blocked!

Is there any way to get out of this mess and get access to my old contacts?

I had a few gems there.Had similar situation over time. Since then I use in my mobile, iPad and computer. While changing the phone I always lost my date (even while I have a backup), when I send a message from the other device it's visual on the phone directly.

[Explorer8939]

Not all girls are the same bro. If you like one do her till you can't do her anymore.

The 3 day rule is silly.Getting fixated on one lady in Thailand is a newbie mistake.

What fixation on a lady means, if you want to get laid, you have to barfine her for as long as you want to get laid. If she has other customers, you may be out of luck. Or overpay her for exclusivity.

And the 3 day rule exists for a good reason. Not every lady can hanfle Long Time.

I know a lady who could go with me for a week, no problem. But we went for a 2 week trip, and she broke down after a week and wouldn't leave the room. She cried for 2 days for her Thai boyfriend. She recovered after the 2 days, but was subdued.

Upon her return to Thailand, she found out the boyfriend was married.

[Fasbiranwar1]

Hello everyone,

I am visiting BKK this Friday after a very Long time. I hope things haven't changed much. I use to pick up girls from Bossy Pub, CM2, Mixx, and Climax bar. I don't know any of them is still around or not. I have a thing for Uzbekistan girl. If anyone has any update please provide me. If not once my visit is done I will be able to give you all update of the trip.

[GrapeMan]

Getting fixated on one lady in Thailand is a newbie mistake.

What fixation on a lady means, if you want to get laid, you have to barfine her for as long as you want to get laid. If she has other customers, you may be out of luck. Or overpay her for exclusivity.

And the 3 day rule exists for a good reason. Not every lady can hanfle Long Time.

I know a lady who could go with me for a week, no problem. But we went for a 2 week trip, and she broke down after a week and wouldn't leave the room. She cried for 2 days for her Thai boyfriend. She recovered after the 2 days, but was subdued.

Upon her return to Thailand, she found out the boyfriend was married.All of this about taking a girl for any amount of longer time than a day/night IMO is just nonsense, especially as a newcomer. Jump around for a few. No reason to line some sex worker's pocket as she fakes that she has any interest in hanging out with you other than that new handbag she wants you to buy and that you have a room with AC. You don't need to play make believe, she doesn't either, she just wants to find out how much money you have so she can figure out a way to take it all

[Nyezhov]

Hello everyone,

I am visiting BKK this Friday after a very Long time. I hope things haven't changed much. I use to pick up girls from Bossy Pub, CM2, Mixx, and Climax bar. I don't know any of them is still around or not. I have a thing for Uzbekistan girl. If anyone has any update please provide me. If not once my visit is done I will be able to give you all update of the trip.Have you read back a few pages? TOFT somewhere, let us know.

[Werqweq]

Gentlemen!

Sorry if this is not the right thread. But, this thread seems to be the most active one around and I am sure there are others who have had the same experience as I do.

Over the years I have been traveling to Bangkok, I built a solid list of contacts in my line account and I had them all saved.

I used to keep in touch with a few of them.

This included women who have stopped working regularly in MPs or Escorting, but they would visit me whenever I was in bkk.

They all continue to be in good shape, just that they found other normal jobs elsewhere in Bangkok.

Unfortunately, I had to change my phone and when I tried to reinstall the app in the new phone, I got the message that I was blocked for the next 52 days!

So, I emailed the customer care and they have replied that I tried to solicit, hence I was blocked!

Is there any way to get out of this mess and get access to my old contacts?

I had a few gems there.I would suggest replying to them and say you think there has been a mistake, as you only use line to chat with your friends.

As there are a lot of p4 p-agents on line (e. G. All of fiwfans-booking is via line) I'm really surprised to hear that too.

Barring that, I can't think of any way to get your line contacts back.

[Kuku696]

I would suggest replying to them and say you think there has been a mistake, as you only use line to chat with your friends.

As there are a lot of p4 p-agents on line (e. G. All of fiwfans-booking is via line) I'm really surprised to hear that too.

Barring that, I can't think of any way to get your line contacts back.I am new to the line scene. I have downloaded line to my phone, but do not want to sign up with my US number. I am going to purchase an e-sim card for Thailand, just before my arrival. Would I be able to link my Thailand e-sim number to line, without linking my US sim?

Thanks.

[SteelBaton]

(Reposting this to this thread, as more members here).

Sometimes I'm just tired and want a great oil massage that really focuses on the whole body for most of the session but ventures into teasing playfulness and ending in BBBJ or HJ. I want 80% awesome body massage from head to toes. I'the like to get a little baked and just have a relaxing, but tantalizing, 90-120 minutes with a young thing with good hands and a decent body. No FS necessary and Bond2 Body highly appreciated if the tits aren't rock hard fakes.

Any pro-tips for getting a girl with excellent massage skills as well as good sex?

What are good shops to consider in the late afternoon or early evening /.

Thanks. Appreciate any suggestions.

[MachchiBaba]

I've been asking that question forever, and of course, lazy POS that I am, I never bothered to check.I had another thread with the same question on Spasso Bar. Based on my recent little research I find that The Bamboo Bar inside of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel might be similar to Spasso's but I have not read any confirming posts that there are pickup women. Does anyone here have any experiences with The Bamboo Bar?

I like to confirm before booking that hotel, the hotel is expensive relatively. Obviously, if there is no good probability (above. 8) of a hit then I would stick around near the Shukumvit area. I love idea the idea of picking up someone at a bar and taking her to the room upstairs. That is why I like a Spasso at the Grand Hyatt. May The Bamboo Bar at Mandarin Oriental be an alternative??

[Raj Patela]

(Reposting this to this thread, as more members here).

Sometimes I'm just tired and want a great oil massage that really focuses on the whole body for most of the session but ventures into teasing playfulness and ending in BBBJ or HJ. I want 80% awesome body massage from head to toes. I'the like to get a little baked and just have a relaxing, but tantalizing, 90-120 minutes with a young thing with good hands and a decent body. No FS necessary and Bond2 Body highly appreciated if the tits aren't rock hard fakes.

Any pro-tips for getting a girl with excellent massage skills as well as good sex?

What are good shops to consider in the late afternoon or early evening /.

Thanks. Appreciate any suggestions.Needle in a Haystack Bro.

[DropNir]

I'm returning to Bangkok starting later today and I'm hoping to find some bareback anal creampie action. I've seen ads for bb and I've seen ads for anal, but never both. Do any of you know a reliable woman for bbfscia? Last time I was in BKK I went to Nana plaza twice, but I never picked anyone up. It all just seemed overwhelming. Club girls seem to be the way most of you are getting it though. I also tried contacting Polly Pons to see if I could meet her, but she never replied to me.

[Explorer8939]

What are the barfines for ST and LT at Crazy House?

[Zam007]

I would suggest replying to them and say you think there has been a mistake, as you only use line to chat with your friends.

As there are a lot of p4 p-agents on line (e. G. All of fiwfans-booking is via line) I'm really surprised to hear that too.

Barring that, I can't think of any way to get your line contacts back.I tired. They have blocked my messages.

[Allover]

What are the barfines for ST and LT at Crazy House?B700 short time. Didn't ask about long time.

[HorseTrader]

...
Over the years I have been traveling to Bangkok, I built a solid list of contacts in my line account and I had them all saved. ....
...Unfortunately, I had to change my phone and when I tried to reinstall the app in the new phone, I got the message that I was blocked for the next 52 days!



Had similar situation over time. Since then I use in my mobile, iPad and computer. While changing the phone I always lost my date (even while I have a backup), when I send a message from the other device it's visual on the phone directly.The best way to avoid this problem is to keep your smart phone backed up. I don't know why Somewhere15 had a problem.

I've changed phones more times since getting Line than I care to remember and I've never lost anything during phone changes. I have iPhone, but I'm confident that Android has something equivalent. I do automated nightly backups via WiFi to iCloud and then about weekly I do a wired encrypted manual backup to my laptop using iTunes. Before I go to the phone store, the last thing I do is a manual backup to my laptop. When I get my new phone, I take it straight home and do a restore from my laptop. I can't remember every losing anything from any of my phone apps.

[Giovanni Volo]

Another return to Bangkok. Always no disappointment. A few pointers for travellers.

Momo Massage.

Fake photos, but some nice girls.

Nice, they do everything. But looks a bit like an assembly line.

Dreaming Heaven.

Decadent. Only once found a nice one.

Hunny Bunny.

A beautiful girl, but the second night demoted.

Soi near Dreaming Heaven.

One very nice one, but cold performance.

Local prices above: we are about 2700 euro 90 minutes (about, depending on the place).

Fiwfans.

Great find, but you need a lot of washing. You need time and willingness to spend some time. I like to see new, non-touristy areas of Bangkok. Here I found the best food and the best Thai massage. But if one has little time, it is not advisable.

Prices: they start from 1000 bath for an hour. So for 2200 bath I would get the TOP: 90 minutes with "models".

Hotel: Solo.

Fabulous as always for that price (1100 bath / night). I need good price also for long stay.

Bring two girls. No problem, in fact with one (the prettiest), they all smiled.

One long who took what I wanted (3200 bath), and then wanted to come back. Chinese, 27 years old, very pretty, hyper-sympathetic. Crazy for Italians. In my opinion looking for a long story, but she wasn't for me for that. We even went out together (to have dinner, she was a teetotaler and said she never went to bars).

A massage short: 3500 bath two hours, fabulous her.

Another short, 300 bath, 2 hours that became three. But we also drank all I had in the room and chatted. Nice experiences in a hotel because less mechanical. But I also adore massages. Bad experience in a gogo, because I felt I was treated like a money-making machine, without realising how much she would eventually want. Minimum damage.

Bar soi 6: found cute chick, but then old woman annoyed me and I left. I have a lot to do anyway, I don't get fooled, especially in Bangkok then.

In three months I'll be back.

[SteelBaton]

Needle in a Haystack Bro.Why would a good massage followed by a happy ending be a challenge in Bangkok? Thai's know massage better than anywhere in SEA and they know sex about as well. Perhaps I need to find a large massage joint and ask for a recommendation? What are the largest and most popular? (Yes, I RTFF, but this infor doesn't come up). Cheers.

[Newton York]

I'm telling ya guys, it's a gopro type camera in a fanny pack with a hole cut into it. That's how this dude is shooting these incredible, incredible videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzDxltXgHA

Same goes for this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZWFx-LfJA

But look at around 2:33, look at the attractive and the ugly sad sack of a guy she has to fuck so she can make a living. I had a particularly bad week at work, and a really bad day at work today and I felt like this was it, either I'm going to be fired soon or I'm just going to quit, but when I see these hot young women in Thailand debase and demean themselves to fuck douchebag looking dudes like that, it makes me admire those chicks even more. They're heroes. That's what they are. They sacrifice so much, cause they need to make some cash, and in the process they allow for losers like me to have some pussy from time to time. I salute them. It makes me feel kinda weak that as bad as my day was, I'm ready to call it quits, but these chicks keep trucking along even though we all know they feel gross inside. But they tough it out. Sure the chick could also be a ladyboy since it's around the Thermae area, but what I just said applies to real chicks and trans chicks.

Anyways, the point is, look at the height level of where the camera is pointing from. It's clearly around the waist. Look at all their videos, especially Asian Night, a lot of it, especially as people are walking by him is clearly at waist height, the guy has the camera around his waist in a fanny pack, and the little gopro lens is sticking out of a hole but it's small enough, and the streets are busy enough, no one notices. And I tell ya, watch some of the videos, the mamasans and chicks do wave the guy down. So the youtuber is definitely a dude.

This is it fellas. This is amazing, this is my calling. I want to do this. Look at Asian Night's estimated yearly income from social blade https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCJnYMkYdTByRt_tBjBLojhQ/monthly.

Sure, it's a huge range, but if we take the average, say 50 to 60 grand a year, that's good enough to be living in Thailand. I can imagine it now, semi-retired, living on money from youtube, shooting hidden camera videos of hot chicks all over Bangkok. Just me roaming the streets of Thailand, ogling chicks, and every once in a while picking up a chick to fuck. With the heat and humidity, at my age, I'll probably just die from a heart attack walking the streets of Bangkok at night, drenched in sweat, filled to the brim*with beer and sidegra, but what a way to go. That's how you want to die fellas, with a huge hard on.

[Newton York]

I just wish I had the guts to do this. To go and retire in South East Asia. I just need a little more cash saved up and I can make this dream a reality. I'm at the end of my life now fellas, and if I have just a few years left I want to spend it banging babes. I've got some contacts left from my time in south east Asia decades ago, sent here against my will by the way, that's all I'll say about the 70's. It's a curse I got out alive and not a day goes by that I'm not haunted by those memories. I shoulda died then. Anyway I can settle down in a cheaper country, like Indonesia, Cambodia, or even some place in Borneo, a small city or even small town, or even Thailand itself, but in a smaller less touristy town, and with Air Asia, make my way to Bangkok every now and again, coupla times a year, 25 days at a time, make a youtube channel with videos like Asian Night, and slowly over time make some income from it while I bang hot Thai chicks now and again. Then I'll just fade away into the great unknown. I'll probably be the oldest digital nomad youtuber douchebag type there, but what a way to go.

[Newton York]

I'm returning to Bangkok starting later today and I'm hoping to find some bareback anal creampie action. I've seen ads for bb and I've seen ads for anal, but never both. Do any of you know a reliable woman for bbfscia? Last time I was in BKK I went to Nana plaza twice, but I never picked anyone up. It all just seemed overwhelming. Club girls seem to be the way most of you are getting it though. I also tried contacting Polly Pons to see if I could meet her, but she never replied to me.Have come across BBFS, but bareback anal? That's definitely something quite rare, but this being Thailand I betcha you'll find it sooner or later. Money talks, I don't know how much time you get to have in Bangkok, but if you're in it for the long haul, I'm sure you'll come across it. Yes, club girls is the*way to go, and the civilian route too if you've got game, but the typical massage chick maybe not so much. But try your luck at Tulip, I know they're not the prettiest but most will do BBFS and might just go anal bareback. They go pretty hard pse there. Good luck dude!

[Newton York]

I am new to the line scene. I have downloaded line to my phone, but do not want to sign up with my US number. I am going to purchase an e-sim card for Thailand, just before my arrival. Would I be able to link my Thailand e-sim number to line, without linking my US sim?

Thanks.With Suvarnabhumi Airport, it's easiest to just walk up to the dozen or so mobile service kiosks, hand them your phone, some cash, and they'll install a sim card for you, and boom! You've got a local Thai number with fast internet and then you'd install Line and Grab, no link to your US number whatsoever, cause your phone is now using a local Thai sim card. So uninstall your line now, and install it again after you get the Thai sim card. Trust me dude, it's super simple and in some of the electronic stores in the big fancy malls, specifically when you buy something from them, they'll help you install everything. Within a few days of my own arrival to Thailand last summer for my sex-travaganza trip, I bought a great and cheap mobile phone there, they did everything for me. It's Asia dude, customer service all the way. Ain't like the US where you're treated like shit everywhere you go. Thailand is paradise!

[Newton York]

Just wanted to ask everyone what their policy is for DATY. Having a cute young thing sit her ass down on my face is one of the best things in this world, but I'm always a bit cautious with the working ladies.

Usually I let myself get carried away in the moment though.I used to, especially if I'm really into the girl, and if I feel like she's really worth doing it for, I remember I had a good time eating out a really great chick in Singapore's Geylang. She was super cute, really into it, rimmed me and everything, so I wanted to eat her out. But nowadays not so much, not sure why. It's too late for me to have a girlfriend anymore, I'm too old and also incredibly ugly, so I doubt I'll ever DATY anytime soon unless I find a real gem of a chick, maybe. And of course, she's got to be shaved down there. *.

[Supmam]

Yeah def enjoyed this with several of the tulip girls pre covid. Leena gop dow.

I think for more youthful ladies or outside tulip is going to be harder to find. Bba isn't too hard to find but cia is where it might be a challenge.


I'm returning to Bangkok starting later today and I'm hoping to find some bareback anal creampie action. I've seen ads for bb and I've seen ads for anal, but never both. Do any of you know a reliable woman for bbfscia? Last time I was in BKK I went to Nana plaza twice, but I never picked anyone up. It all just seemed overwhelming. Club girls seem to be the way most of you are getting it though. I also tried contacting Polly Pons to see if I could meet her, but she never replied to me.

[HydTesla5]

Can someone please DM me 2-3 freelance contacts (25 years old) please if possible?

I took premium TF subscription but its so time consuming.

Thanks!

[Paolo99]

Same goes for this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZWFx-LfJA

But look at around 2:33, look at the attractive and the ugly sad sack of a guy she has to fuck so she can make a living.I bet you 1 K $ that "she" is a ladyboy mate, and not a young one too.

[Kuku696]

With Suvarnabhumi Airport, it's easiest to just walk up to the dozen or so mobile service kiosks, hand them your phone, some cash, and they'll install a sim card for you, and boom! You've got a local Thai number with fast internet and then you'd install Line and Grab, no link to your US number whatsoever, cause your phone is now using a local Thai sim card. So uninstall your line now, and install it again after you get the Thai sim card. Trust me dude, it's super simple and in some of the electronic stores in the big fancy malls, specifically when you buy something from them, they'll help you install everything. Within a few days of my own arrival to Thailand last summer for my sex-travaganza trip, I bought a great and cheap mobile phone there, they did everything for me. It's Asia dude, customer service all the way. Ain't like the US where you're treated like shit everywhere you go. Thailand is paradise!Thank you Sir.

I may not have explained this propertly. My phone can accept E-Sim (not physical) along with my physical sim card. So I can have two sims on my phone, one physical and one virtual. I do not want to carry two personal phones, since I have to carry my work phone too. In the past I carried my hobby phone too. I can get an E-Sim card for Thailand in the US and activate the number here before travel, without going to any shop there. Even though I downloaded the line App, I have not linked any number or signed up. My intention is to switch between the two numbers while I am in Thailand depending on my needs.

But I have never used Line App before, so not sure about doing it myself.

[Werqweq]

(Reposting this to this thread, as more members here).

Sometimes I'm just tired and want a great oil massage that really focuses on the whole body for most of the session but ventures into teasing playfulness and ending in BBBJ or HJ. I want 80% awesome body massage from head to toes. I'the like to get a little baked and just have a relaxing, but tantalizing, 90-120 minutes with a young thing with good hands and a decent body. No FS necessary and Bond2 Body highly appreciated if the tits aren't rock hard fakes.

Any pro-tips for getting a girl with excellent massage skills as well as good sex?

What are good shops to consider in the late afternoon or early evening /.

Thanks. Appreciate any suggestions.Questions like that makes me almost wonder if you've even been to Bangkok. I'm sure 90% of "young things" who do oil massage anywhere you as a tourist will venture will happily oblige you with a HJ for some extra money. If she does not offer it herself (unusual even for me, and I only do clothed Thai massage), just gently place her hand on your dick when she's massaging around that area.

[Kuku696]

Questions like that makes me almost wonder if you've even been to Bangkok. I'm sure 90% of "young things" who do oil massage anywhere you as a tourist will venture will happily oblige you with a HJ for some extra money. If she does not offer it herself (unusual even for me, and I only do clothed Thai massage), just gently place her hand on your dick when she's massaging around that area.I like this kind of massages since there is always a piece of suspense and excitement in this and it is always satisfying when you talk them into this. I have done these a few times in Bangkok, but the best experience I had was in Angeles City. These are massage service girls that come to your room and they are genuine therapists normally located away from the Field's action. You may not score the first time, but there is a higher degree of chance the second time you get them and of course a generous tip. I always bring some sexy underwear and have never had one girl say no to getting a free underwear and chocolates.

[Banana Boi]

I bet you 1 K $ that "she" is a ladyboy mate, and not a young one too.Agree. 100% ladyboy.

[Kuku696]

Questions like that makes me almost wonder if you've even been to Bangkok. I'm sure 90% of "young things" who do oil massage anywhere you as a tourist will venture will happily oblige you with a HJ for some extra money. If she does not offer it herself (unusual even for me, and I only do clothed Thai massage), just gently place her hand on your dick when she's massaging around that area.I like this kind of massages since there is always a piece of suspense and excitement in this and it is always satisfying when you talk them into this. I have done these a few times in Bangkok, but the best experience I had was in Angeles City. These are massage service girls that come to your room and they are genuine therapists normally located away from the Field's action. You may not score the first time, but there is a higher degree of chance the second time you get them and of course a generous tip. I always bring some sexy underwear and have never had one girl say no to getting a free underwear and chocolates.

[Werqweq]

I am new to the line scene. I have downloaded line to my phone, but do not want to sign up with my US number. I am going to purchase an e-sim card for Thailand, just before my arrival. Would I be able to link my Thailand e-sim number to line, without linking my US sim?

Thanks.Yeah, that would work fine. Line is a good app (the best app for chatting imo). Myself I would not worry about signing up with my US number. Also the people you chat with on line will not be able to see your phone number unless you tell them.

[Kuku696]

Yeah, that would work fine. Line is a good app (the best app for chatting imo). Myself I would not worry about signing up with my US number. Also the people you chat with on line will not be able to see your phone number unless you tell them.Thank you. Appreciate the technical info.

[Raj Patela]

I bet you 1 K $ that "she" is a ladyboy mate, and not a young one too.Can you all comment on the Tennis Williams sisters just before the sad sack guy part.

Numbers scale would be fine.

[Raj Patela]

I'm telling ya guys, it's a gopro type camera in a fanny pack with a hole cut into it. That's how this dude is shooting these incredible, incredible videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzDxltXgHA

Same goes for this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZWFx-LfJA

But look at around 2:33, look at the attractive and the ugly sad sack of a guy she has to fuck so she can make a living. I had a particularly bad week at work, and a really bad day at work today and I felt like this was it, either I'm going to be fired soon or I'm just going to quit, but when I see these hot young women in Thailand debase and demean themselves to fuck douchebag looking dudes like that, it makes me admire those chicks even more. They're heroes. That's what they are. They sacrifice so much, cause they need to make some cash, and in the process they allow for losers like me to have some pussy from time to time. I salute them. It makes me feel kinda weak that as bad as my day was, I'm ready to call it quits, but these chicks keep trucking along even though we all know they feel gross inside. But they tough it out. Sure the chick could also be a ladyboy since it's around the Thermae area, but what I just said applies to real chicks and trans chicks.

Anyways, the point is, look at the height level of where the camera is pointing from. It's clearly around the waist. Look at all their videos, especially Asian Night, a lot of it, especially as people are walking by him is clearly at waist height, the guy has the camera around his waist in a fanny pack, and the little gopro lens is sticking out of a hole but it's small enough, and the streets are busy enough, no one notices. And I tell ya, watch some of the videos, the mamasans and chicks do wave the guy down. So the youtuber is definitely a dude.

This is it fellas. This is amazing, this is my calling. I want to do this. Look at Asian Night's estimated yearly income from social blade https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCJnYMkYdTByRt_tBjBLojhQ/monthly.

Sure, it's a huge range, but if we take the average, say 50 to 60 grand a year, that's good enough to be living in Thailand. I can imagine it now, semi-retired, living on money from youtube, shooting hidden camera videos of hot chicks all over Bangkok. Just me roaming the streets of Thailand, ogling chicks, and every once in a while picking up a chick to fuck. With the heat and humidity, at my age, I'll probably just die from a heart attack walking the streets of Bangkok at night, drenched in sweat, filled to the brim*with beer and sidegra, but what a way to go. That's how you want to die fellas, with a huge hard on.Does he make $9,000 or $151,000.

[BlackThought]

Needle in a Haystack Bro.I assume it should be quite easy to find in Bangkok, lots of them in the Nana area.

[BionicMan]

Can someone please DM me 2-3 freelance contacts (25 years old) please if possible?

I took premium TF subscription but its so time consuming.

Thanks!Dark hair? Long or short? Please specify.

Butler and concierge service will answer on Monday, after the weekend is over.

FFS!

[SuperLove]

Given the looks of the man he should consider himself lucky he had someone with him. If she is a LB then a bloody good one in my books.


I bet you 1 K $ that "she" is a ladyboy mate, and not a young one too.

[Banana Boi]

I took premium TF subscription but its so time consuming.Since you're not going to use it can you send me the premium TF subscription?

Went through your posting history. Almost if not all of your posts are asking for information. This board is about give and take. Provide useful information for others and others will provide you useful information when you go to a new destination.


Dark hair? Long or short? Please specify.

Tall Blonde thin busty age 20. Resembles a Russian girl. Oh, and cheap too!

[Werqweq]

Last month I got to spend in Bangkok and I spent a fair amount of lunch breaks boinking fiwfans girls. Admittedly, after my first few experiences my euphoria dampened a bit, and I had my share off girls I'd really prefer not to have spent time on meeting, but most ranged from OK to really pretty. And you can take into account that for the most part, I think bargirls are below ok, with some exceptions of course.

My top fiwfans picks are:

- Honey (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raen5flapuig6t). She was busy most of the times I tried to book her, so only met her once. Would have repeated. Good service, pretty, speaks English, and the only one I might have enjoyed meeting outside the bed too. Works out of a good hotel a 5m mototaxi ride from BTS thong lo.

- Rainy (her page is not up at the moment, but suspect it will be back later. Search for her name). Friendly and very giggly girl. As beautiful as her photos. Same hotel as Honey.

- Annie (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae47zlj84da3w). Not that pretty, but "OK". I mention here because either she liked me and my dick, or she really likes sucking dick. Friendly, but looks a lot less pretty than her photos, limited english. I mention her here for her BJ-skills more than anything else.

- Crystal (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raegnqlk557p72). Again, not that pretty, but "OK". I mention here because you can book her together with a friend who also works from the same place. I did not get time to try that, but it was on my todo list. Don't expect anything lesbian / bisexual from them though. She frowned and laughed when I asked if they would kiss, but said yes to my question of whether they would suck dick together. I imagine you can get a BJ from them at the same time, and fuck them on the same bed (with or without the same condom I don't know), but probably not much more than that.

- Cartier (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae5cole7fky4p). My first fiwfans girl (used the name Champagne then). Small, thin, and sweet I thought. No boobs or ass, but face made up for it. Upon repeat a month later I wasn't too impressed and thought the service was mechanical, but would recommend her for one visit anyway if you like a soft, quiet, demure girl.

In addition to that I probably meet about 10-15 other girls, but nobody else worth mentioning. Some quite pretty, but service the bare minimum, and several times even less than promised on their pages. Others not pretty enough to mention and a few I was even 50/50 on whether to walk away or not, but hey, where else can I simply turn up at the door and fuck a 20-22 year old girl for thb 1300-1500?
Most were from the hotel near Thong Lo where Honey works, as that was a genuine 3.5-star hotel where the agent obviously rented some rooms for this business, with good rooms and bed. Location was good for me too. Others were in more dingy hotels, and one or two even in their private and annoyingly messy rooms.

My tips for fiwfans use is to find out what agencies have girls near you (taking into account Bangkok traffic, so 5 km away from you one way may be a two hour trip, while 5 km away from you the other way may be 10 minutes), and then join the telegram groups of those agencies. They will normally post daily updates of girls working that day, and in what hotels (bigger agencies will have girls at several different places).

I'd usually take a lunch break around noon, and would spend 10-15 minutes browsing the telegram groups a couple of hours before that and book a girl for noon. I did read the reviews, and disregarded some girls based on their reviews, but the reviews were not alpha and omega for me. I note that most reviews are very much on the high side though, and even the one girl I met who I'd rate less than 5/10, I felt I had to rate to rate 8/10 or risk my review being rejected. Take more note of the text in the review than the score for any girl receiving less than 10/10.

Easy agency to start with is https://fiwfans.vip/agency/tsgsideline I think, as they are better organized regarding the daily updates than most other agencies, and my experience with booking with them was good too. If you choose girls from the hotel they list as Sukhumvit 55, you'll be meeting them in a decent room too. Out of about 15 bookings from this agency I was only "stood up" once. Early booking and girl was supposedly on the way to the hotel (no reason to doubt it), but after waiting for 15 minutes, I asked to change to one of the other girls working at the same hotel.

All in all I'm a big fiwfans-fan, if not for anything else then just based on the sheer amount of choice for young, pretty girls and how easy it is to book at a good price. No PSE here, but I much prefer a soft, vanilla-sex experience with a young pretty girl to the PSE-style experience some others here like with women that are not attractive to me at all. After a while I usually paid the 400 B upcharge for a CIM-finish too (not all girls offer this, so check the services listed on their page if important to you. Translates to "crack the mouth" or something like that in Google translate).

[KumuMan]

I like this kind of massages since there is always a piece of suspense and excitement in this and it is always satisfying when you talk them into this. I have done these a few times in Bangkok, but the best experience I had was in Angeles City. These are massage service girls that come to your room and they are genuine therapists normally located away from the Field's action. You may not score the first time, but there is a higher degree of chance the second time you get them and of course a generous tip. I always bring some sexy underwear and have never had one girl say no to getting a free underwear and chocolates.Mine was in CEBU. I asked the hotel porter if he knew of a "massage girl" and 1/2 hour later a 20 yr old shows up to my room dressed in what looked like a nurses outfit. She was not a looker, chubby but had a pleasant cheerful attitude. Her massage was actually very good and she had brought her own oil. After an hour massage and on the flip I asked if more was available and to my surprise she stripped and minutes later came out of the shower. No kissing allowed but everything else on the menu. She was clean shaven and she came multiple times from DATY and OMG her pussy was hot and tight. Didn't last long as she was squirming and was loud, didn't understand what she was blurring out. She had the brightest pink bean I 've ever seen on a pinay.

[Raj Patela]

Last month I got to spend in Bangkok and I spent a fair amount of lunch breaks boinking fiwfans girls. Admittedly, after my first few experiences my euphoria dampened a bit, and I had my share off girls I'd really prefer not to have spent time on meeting, but most ranged from OK to really pretty. And you can take into account that for the most part, I think bargirls are below ok, with some exceptions of course.

My top fiwfans picks are:

- Honey (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raen5flapuig6t). She was busy most of the times I tried to book her, so only met her once. Would have repeated. Good service, pretty, speaks English, and the only one I might have enjoyed meeting outside the bed too. Works out of a good hotel a 5m mototaxi ride from BTS thong lo.

- Rainy (her page is not up at the moment, but suspect it will be back later. Search for her name). Friendly and very giggly girl. As beautiful as her photos. Same hotel as Honey.

- Annie (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae47zlj84da3w). Not that pretty, but "OK". I mention here because either she liked me and my dick, or she really likes sucking dick. Friendly, but looks a lot less pretty than her photos, limited english. I mention her here for her BJ-skills more than anything else.

- Crystal (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raegnqlk557p72). Again, not that pretty, but "OK". I mention here because you can book her together with a friend who also works from the same place. I did not get time to try that, but it was on my todo list. Don't expect anything lesbian / bisexual from them though. She frowned and laughed when I asked if they would kiss, but said yes to my question of whether they would suck dick together. I imagine you can get a BJ from them at the same time, and fuck them on the same bed (with or without the same condom I don't know), but probably not much more than that.

- Cartier (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae5cole7fky4p). My first fiwfans girl (used the name Champagne then). Small, thin, and sweet I thought. No boobs or ass, but face made up for it. Upon repeat a month later I wasn't too impressed and thought the service was mechanical, but would recommend her for one visit anyway if you like a soft, quiet, demure girl.

In addition to that I probably meet about 10-15 other girls, but nobody else worth mentioning. Some quite pretty, but service the bare minimum, and several times even less than promised on their pages. Others not pretty enough to mention and a few I was even 50/50 on whether to walk away or not, but hey, where else can I simply turn up at the door and fuck a 20-22 year old girl for thb 1300-1500?
Most were from the hotel near Thong Lo where Honey works, as that was a genuine 3.5-star hotel where the agent obviously rented some rooms for this business, with good rooms and bed. Location was good for me too. Others were in more dingy hotels, and one or two even in their private and annoyingly messy rooms.

My tips for fiwfans use is to find out what agencies have girls near you (taking into account Bangkok traffic, so 5 km away from you one way may be a two hour trip, while 5 km away from you the other way may be 10 minutes), and then join the telegram groups of those agencies. They will normally post daily updates of girls working that day, and in what hotels (bigger agencies will have girls at several different places).

I'd usually take a lunch break around noon, and would spend 10-15 minutes browsing the telegram groups a couple of hours before that and book a girl for noon. I did read the reviews, and disregarded some girls based on their reviews, but the reviews were not alpha and omega for me. I note that most reviews are very much on the high side though, and even the one girl I met who I'd rate less than 5/10, I felt I had to rate to rate 8/10 or risk my review being rejected. Take more note of the text in the review than the score for any girl receiving less than 10/10.

Easy agency to start with is https://fiwfans.vip/agency/tsgsideline I think, as they are better organized regarding the daily updates than most other agencies, and my experience with booking with them was good too. If you choose girls from the hotel they list as Sukhumvit 55, you'll be meeting them in a decent room too. Out of about 15 bookings from this agency I was only "stood up" once. Early booking and girl was supposedly on the way to the hotel (no reason to doubt it), but after waiting for 15 minutes, I asked to change to one of the other girls working at the same hotel.

All in all I'm a big fiwfans-fan, if not for anything else then just based on the sheer amount of choice for young, pretty girls and how easy it is to book at a good price. No PSE here, but I much prefer a soft, vanilla-sex experience with a young pretty girl to the PSE-style experience some others here like with women that are not attractive to me at all. After a while I usually paid the 400 B upcharge for a CIM-finish too (not all girls offer this, so check the services listed on their page if important to you. Translates to "crack the mouth" or something like that in Google translate).Annie is very Pretty.

[Nyezhov]

Can someone please DM me 2-3 freelance contacts (25 years old) please if possible?

I took premium TF subscription but its so time consuming.

Thanks!I have a phone full. DM me for my PayPal.

Is it me, or has the level of mongering intelligence and Thailand experience soley decreased here over the past few years? I mean, its like some folks haven't even played for pay in their own countries. And the level of questioning about basics in life: how to get SIM cards? Are the reviews online real? Does she love me?

Does no one read this forum any more? Is RTFF and the search button an anachronism? Do some of you new guys realize that above and beyond the sex stuff, there is a plethora of totally useful travel stuff and tips about life in Thailand here that is available no where else on the net.

Instead we get "hey dude, got any numbers?" Yeah dude, I got hundreds, sucks to be you doesn't it?


I'm telling ya guys, it's a gopro type camera in a fanny pack with a hole cut into it. That's how this dude is shooting these incredible, incredible videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzDxltXgHA

Same goes for this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZWFx-LfJA.OK Rant is finished, here is my tip for a freelancer. On the early part of one of those videos is a babe who I have pummeled several times with my steaming meatroll of love as recently as 4 weeks ago. She has large fake boobs that just perkily stare at you like a set of headlights on a 1987 911, as well as an ass like a ten year old boy, the requisite slutty tattoos and an evil look. In fact, I have smashed several of the girls you see on that video. Pick one out.

[Nyezhov]

Last month I got to spend in Bangkok and I spent a fair amount of lunch breaks boinking fiwfans girls. Admittedly, after my first few experiences my euphoria dampened a bit, and I had my share off girls I'd really prefer not to have spent time on meeting, but most ranged from OK to really pretty. And you can take into account that for the most part, I think bargirls are below ok, with some exceptions of course.

My top fiwfans picks are:

- Honey (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raen5flapuig6t). She was busy most of the times I tried to book her, so only met her once. Would have repeated. Good service, pretty, speaks English, and the only one I might have enjoyed meeting outside the bed too. Works out of a good hotel a 5m mototaxi ride from BTS thong lo.

- Rainy (her page is not up at the moment, but suspect it will be back later. Search for her name). Friendly and very giggly girl. As beautiful as her photos. Same hotel as Honey.

- Annie (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae47zlj84da3w). Not that pretty, but "OK". I mention here because either she liked me and my dick, or she really likes sucking dick. Friendly, but looks a lot less pretty than her photos, limited english. I mention her here for her BJ-skills more than anything else.

- Crystal (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raegnqlk557p72). Again, not that pretty, but "OK". I mention here because you can book her together with a friend who also works from the same place. I did not get time to try that, but it was on my todo list. Don't expect anything lesbian / bisexual from them though. She frowned and laughed when I asked if they would kiss, but said yes to my question of whether they would suck dick together. I imagine you can get a BJ from them at the same time, and fuck them on the same bed (with or without the same condom I don't know), but probably not much more than that...All that work, and to schlep all the way down into some subsoi for photoshopped bad experiences.

I have a better way.

Take a cab or train to Asoke. Find a babe between Terminal 21 and Nana. Get what I want out of her. Have a piece of pizza and go home.

[Bunky]

I can imagine it now, semi-retired, living on money from YouTube, shooting hidden camera videos of hot chicks all over Bangkok. Just me roaming the streets of Thailand, ogling chicks, and every once in a while picking up a chick to fuck. With the heat and humidity, at my age, I'll probably just die from a heart attack walking the streets of Bangkok at night, drenched in sweat, filled to the brim with beer and sidegra, but what a way to go. That's how you want to die fellas, with a huge hard on.Diet Coke just sprayed out of my nose! Many thanks to Mr. York for the laugh, and for his helpful contributions to this thread. Good on him for imagining his best life.

Bunky

[HydTesla5]

Since you're not going to use it can you send me the premium TF subscription?

Went through your posting history. Almost if not all of your posts are asking for information. This board is about give and take. Provide useful information for others and others will provide you useful information when you go to a new destination.



Tall Blonde thin busty age 20. Resembles a Russian girl. Oh, and cheap too!I would have happily shared login if I have not created it using personal email.

On contribution front, hit me up in case anyone needs leads in Canada (Montreal / Toronto), north america. This forum does not cater to those areas, hence my post history consist of requests only.

[Werqweq]

All that work, and to schlep all the way down into some subsoi for photoshopped bad experiences.

I have a better way.

Take a cab or train to Asoke. Find a babe between Terminal 21 and Nana. Get what I want out of her. Have a piece of pizza and go home.No need for a cab or train as I walked every day from my airbnb-condo to Asoke for gym, sometimes slightly detouring through soi Cowboy on the way back.

Our preferences obviously varies, but while the go-go bars can be fun at night on occasion, in the day I much prefer fiwfans (not that go-gos would be open at that time anway). 15-30 minutes each way, and back to work for me.

Besides, at your age, don't you have all the time in the world anyway? What are you going to miss if you spend an hour in an air-conditioned cab going to a bad experience? A re-run of the golden girls?

Take my recommendation and book an appointment with the Honey-girl I mentioned. Tell me later if you can find any p4p-girl half as good between Nana, T21, and Cowboy, and I'll paypal you back the 1500 baht or whatever her price is.

[Werqweq]

Annie is very Pretty.Yes, but unfortunately only by way of photoshop. In reality she's still ok however, and nice and friendly too.

[Giovanni Volo]

Good that you meet Honey: everytime I text they reply that se was not working. I don't believe in it, but I found other nice girls, was very ok.

Hope to meet her in December.

Last month I got to spend in Bangkok and I spent a fair amount of lunch breaks boinking fiwfans girls. Admittedly, after my first few experiences my euphoria dampened a bit, and I had my share off girls I'd really prefer not to have spent time on meeting, but most ranged from OK to really pretty. And you can take into account that for the most part, I think bargirls are below ok, with some exceptions of course.

My top fiwfans picks are:

- Honey (https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raen5flapuig6t). She was busy most of the times I tried to book her, so only met her once. Would have repeated. Good service, pretty, speaks English, and the only one I might have enjoyed meeting outside the bed too. Works out of a good hotel a 5 m mototaxi ride from BTS thong lo.

[Banana Boi]

Take my recommendation and book an appointment with the Honey-girl I mentioned. Tell me later if you can find any p4p-girl half as good between Nana, T21, and Cowboy, and I'll paypal you back the 1500 baht or whatever her price is.My choices would have been Annie and Honey. So Honey's photos aren't photoshop'd? She looks really familiar but these would be REALLY good photos of the girl who I think it is and also not current photos.

[Werqweq]

My choices would have been Annie and Honey. So Honey's photos aren't photoshop'd? She looks really familiar but these would be REALLY good photos of the girl who I think it is and also not current photos.They're photoshopped too. Unfortunately they are all photoshopped, but if I remember correctly my opinion was that she looked better in real life. Much darker, but better. Your taste may differ of course.

[Nyezhov]

They're photoshopped too. Unfortunately they are all photoshopped, but if I remember correctly my opinion was that she looked better in real life. Much darker, but better. Your taste may differ of course.Photoshop means she doesn't look like her pics. I'm not schlepping down to Soi 55, even for a freebee, on an ifcome.

[Nyezhov]

No need for a cab or train as I walked every day from my airbnb-condo to Asoke for gym, sometimes slightly detouring through soi Cowboy on the way back.

Our preferences obviously varies, but while the go-go bars can be fun at night on occasion, in the day I much prefer fiwfans (not that go-gos would be open at that time anway). 15-30 minutes each way, and back to work for me.

Besides, at your age, don't you have all the time in the world anyway? What are you going to miss if you spend an hour in an air-conditioned cab going to a bad experience? A re-run of the golden girls?

Take my recommendation and book an appointment with the Honey-girl I mentioned. Tell me later if you can find any p4p-girl half as good between Nana, T21, and Cowboy, and I'll paypal you back the 1500 baht or whatever her price is.Dude I I've up in Bang Sue. Once or twice a week I get the itch so I go get some. I'm not schlepping all over town for a photoshop experience when I can get what I want, where I want and select a live body.

Oh and Honey won't go BB, so she's not half as good as any of my recents. You want to pay up then?

Lets get back to my oft repeated premise: The internet is a waste of time for casual visitors.

[Houston Player]

My choices would have been Annie and Honey. So Honey's photos aren't photoshop'd? She looks really familiar but these would be REALLY good photos of the girl who I think it is and also not current photos.Honey is the only one that would have a slight chance of making my rotation. Annie's photos are pretty enough but she is way too big for my taste, 170/60 I wouldn't even give her a try.

It seems to me that Fiwfans is not for me. Granted I do pay a few hundred baht more for my girls but they come to my condo so I don't waste time going to them.

[Werqweq]

Good that you meet Honey: everytime I text they reply that se was not working. I don't believe in it, but I found other nice girls, was very ok.
Yeah, I got the same reply myself half a dozen times, even though she was listed amongst the "working today" girls.
After a while I started thinking she simply did not want to meet farang, but her agent did not want to say it directly. Possibly I was wrong though, as when I finally met her she was nice and friendly and I was obviously not her first farang.

After that first time I think I only tried to book her once, on my lunch break. "Free after 00:00" was the reply that time :-), and as there are so many other options. Had I stayed another month I would have repeated though.

[Banana Boi]

Honey is the only one that would have a slight chance of making my rotation. Annie's photos are pretty enough but she is way too big for my taste, 170/60 I wouldn't even give her a try.I didn't analyze their photos closely or stats to see if Annie was big. Just looked at face pic. I don't believe photos or stats on any of these sites.

Still don't understand the online thing for Thailand. I need to se my girls in person. Want a girl, go to Beach Road or a gogo bar depending on which end of the spectrum you want in looks.


They're photoshopped too. Unfortunately they are all photoshopped, but if I remember correctly my opinion was that she looked better in real life. Much darker, but better. Your taste may differ of course.

Darker? That's not good for me. Since COVID I'm more accustomed to whiter skin like Japan or Vietnam.

[Paolo99]

Yeah, I got the same reply myself half a dozen times, even though she was listed amongst the "working today" girls.
After a while I started thinking she simply did not want to meet farang, but her agent did not want to say it directly. Possibly I was wrong though, as when I finally met her she was nice and friendly and I was obviously not her first farang.

After that first time I think I only tried to book her once, on my lunch break. "Free after 00:00" was the reply that time :-), and as there are so many other options. Had I stayed another month I would have repeated though.She looks pretty and her price is good but the biggest concern is that she is very busy.

These girls on Fiwfans in Bkk might be taking a dick from the morning untill midnight which makes her lose a lot of value in my opinion.

[GrapeMan]

Still don't understand the online thing for Thailand. I need to se my girls in person. Want a girl, go to Beach Road or a gogo bar depending on which end of the spectrum you want in looks.I'm with you on this. People are getting all worked up over fiwfans and TF, but all you have to do is go to the regular places. Its all basically the same girls. Some people just want the online hunt I'm convinced.

[Giovanni Volo]

I'm with you on this. People are getting all worked up over fiwfans and TF, but all you have to do is go to the regular places. Its all basically the same girls. Some people just want the online hunt I'm convinced.All the best girls I got lat time was booked on line in massage or fiwfans.

You can go in massage, but usually the not booked ones is tghw worster.

About gogo, there are a lor of girls beautifull. But you pay a lot more than in my way. It may be 1000 bath for drink and lady trink, 1000 bath bar fine (for what then? What fine that she is here to get fuked? Plus 3000-4000 to the girls, than it may be stay less than 1 hour in your hotel. It may be you have to pay a hotel near gogo too. So is from 5000 bath till 7000 bath for 1 hours. Fiwfans is 2400 bath for 90 minutes. 183 euro to fuck in Thailand for me is too much. If for you is right, so gogo is right.

I personally use both online and normal massage. Gogo is too expensive beause I stay a lot of days (in Bangkok 27, other in other town).

[Nyezhov]

I'm with you on this. People are getting all worked up over fiwfans and TF, but all you have to do is go to the regular places. Its all basically the same girls. Some people just want the online hunt I'm convinced.Its easier. Don't have to walk around in the heat, don't have to buy lady drinks, don't have to walk past rats and ladyboys and Rolex sellers and smell weed.

Just sit in your airconditioned AirB&be and scroll through phtoshopped pics with translated descriptions. Take a cab to some 1 star hotel and bang some chick that looks nothing like her picture. Then go back to the Air be&be and gleefully report here.

Sounds like a great time in Thailand.

[Goatscrot]

I'm with you on this. People are getting all worked up over fiwfans and TF, but all you have to do is go to the regular places. Its all basically the same girls. Some people just want the online hunt I'm convinced.Used fiwfans and other sideline sites almost exclusively since 2020 with the exception of an oily visit now and then and when I walk in to a go-go bar, which is rarely, I find the talent level lacking. Girls are dark with facial features I just don't find appealing, I'm not a fan of the hard Isaan look, and well, with a lot of them their behavior is, how can I put this gently, a bit rude and obnoxious. It's not really the same girls at all. Now many of the punters here seem to be using TSG sideline because of its close proximity to Nana and TSG seems to have more ex-go-go types that some of the other agents. Hint, the farther afield you go the better. Rachada 17 is a goldmine and not so far away.

The gals online tend to be fairer, better behaved, and you have the added bonus of not having to go into a bar, listen to Bad music, and pay for overpriced drinks. Also don't have to worry about getting a short time hotel. Not to mention the fiwfans girls are significantly less expensive than the extortionist prices you are paying in Go-Go's now.

I've actually had the best looking girls of my almost quarter of a century tenure here in Bangkok from fiwfans and some of the other sideline sites over the last 3 years. And I've also had some incredible performers. Yes, it takes a lot of time, but I'd much rather spend that time online than sitting in a go-go bar or prowling the streets. But of course I live here, so my priorities are very different from the tourist or frequent visitors. I love going out in Bangkok, but that's going out to dinners, having a drink and a nice bar, or going to see live music with friends. We haven't been regular go go denizens for well over a decade. Covid times were absolutely amazing for online. And currently the number online is going up. I'm also hearing that business is not very good. Afraid we are in from some potential economic hard times here, which always injects a lot of new talent into the P4 P scene.
One more comment about online, I don't do TF because it is mainly directed at tourists.

[Goatscrot]

Its easier. Don't have to walk around in the heat, don't have to buy lady drinks, don't have to walk past rats and ladyboys and Rolex sellers and smell weed.

Just sit in your airconditioned AirB&be and scroll through phtoshopped pics with translated descriptions. Take a cab to some 1 star hotel and bang some chick that looks nothing like her picture. Then go back to the Air be&be and gleefully report here.

Sounds like a great time in Thailand.I know you mean that tongue and cheek and sarcastically, but in my eyes and in my opinion the Nana area is just not a particularly nice place to go. I loved it 20 years ago, but really don't like what it's become and the type of people it attracts.

We wander it down there on occasion for one reason, to eat Middle Eastern food and then get out of there as quickly as possible.

[Goatscrot]

She looks pretty and her price is good but the biggest concern is that she is very busy.

These girls on Fiwfans in Bkk might be taking a dick from the morning untill midnight which makes her lose a lot of value in my opinion.The better looking gogo gals are tearing off several short times a night, don't kid yourself.

[Goatscrot]

I didn't analyze their photos closely or stats to see if Annie was big. Just looked at face pic. I don't believe photos or stats on any of these sites.

Still don't understand the online thing for Thailand. I need to se my girls in person. Want a girl, go to Beach Road or a gogo bar depending on which end of the spectrum you want in looks.



Darker? That's not good for me. Since COVID I'm more accustomed to whiter skin like Japan or Vietnam.Fiwfans gals overall are nowhere near as dark as what you find and Go-Go's these days. Remember they are marketing themselves to the local lads.
The telegram groups and reviews have more accurate pictures.

[Paolo99]

The better looking gogo gals are tearing off several short times a night, don't kid yourself.Yes, but I never took any of the better looking gals in gogos, I can only remember of two gogo girls I took back home in all my time in Thailand and they were not top tier.

The point was that I would rather go with a bit less pretty girl that is not so busy.

[Werqweq]

She looks pretty and her price is good but the biggest concern is that she is very busy.

These girls on Fiwfans in Bkk might be taking a dick from the morning untill midnight which makes her lose a lot of value in my opinion.From what I was told by some of them it varies between one or two (not busy day) to 5-6 (busy day). It is one of the reason I prefered to go on my lunchbreak.

[JustLoggedInto]

I know you mean that tongue and cheek and sarcastically, but in my eyes and in my opinion the Nana area is just not a particularly nice place to go. I loved it 20 years ago, but really don't like what it's become and the type of people it attracts.

We wander it down there on occasion for one reason, to eat Middle Eastern food and then get out of there as quickly as possible.I mean they're right. Fifwans imo is a joke. They never look like their pics. Ever. At least when you see people in person you know 'just about' what you are getting. ANd moreso when they're wearing close to nothing on.

[Banana Boi]

The better looking gogo gals are tearing off several short times a night, don't kid yourself.I know this is a thing in Bangkok. I frequently see gogo girls come back to the bar after they're done their ST. I rarely see this happen at Pattaya gogo bars though. Once the girl leaves the bar she's going out with her friends after. This I know from experience with girls calling me to go eat or go to a Thai disco after they're done with a customer. Also possible is maybe guys (Japanese and Koreans) mainly take girls for LT in Pattaya?

[Axel Heyst]

Its easier. Don't have to walk around in the heat, don't have to buy lady drinks, don't have to walk past rats and ladyboys and Rolex sellers and smell weed.

Just sit in your airconditioned AirB&be and scroll through phtoshopped pics with translated descriptions. Take a cab to some 1 star hotel and bang some chick that looks nothing like her picture. Then go back to the Air be&be and gleefully report here.

Sounds like a great time in Thailand.Yep, that is just what I want to do; travel halfway around the world for 24 hours so I can sit in my hotel room hunched over a laptop searching for attractive girls based solely on their photoshopped pics and reviews.

I tried a variation of online sourcing in SP & RJ during omicron (2021) when most brick-and-mortar establishments were shuttered. Fortunately, I found very attractive and friendly girls online at sites like MClass & Club Model, and I had a great time with these girls during the shutdown. But as soon as the bars, clinicas, and bordellos reopened I stopped using the internet. Why? Because for me it is a lot more fun to go out and look for girls than to search for them online.

[Werqweq]

Yep, that is just what I want to do; travel halfway around the world for 24 hours so I can sit in my hotel room hunched over a laptop searching for attractive girls based solely on their photoshopped pics and reviews.

I tried a variation of online sourcing in SP & RJ during omicron (2021) when most brick-and-mortar establishments were shuttered. Fortunately, I found very attractive and friendly girls online at sites like MClass & Club Model, and I had a great time with these girls during the shutdown. But as soon as the bars, clinicas, and bordellos reopened I stopped using the internet. Why? Because for me it is a lot more fun to go out and look for girls than to search for them online.LOL. You make it sound so sad. ;-)

It is really great we have such a wide variety of choice in Bangkok. Myself I used fiwfans more days than not during my lunch breaks (working full-time unfortunately). The price and ease of access made it very enjoyable, the occasional dud not withstanding. The evenings I spent dating non-p4p girls or gorging on good food, though I also visited go-go bars on occasion. Yes, it's really fun to walk through a handful of go-go bars at night, joke around with some girls, and pick the prettiest girl you see out of a hundred or more different girls, but at least for me, that's only fun on occasion, and I still want to maintain the discipline of waking up early next morning for work. It would not be fun every day, and it would also be too expensive for me, costing three times as much as fiwfans, and taking more time too.

Also, for what it's worth, the go-go girl I went with my last week (I'm a bit ashamed to say I only visited Soi Cowboy in earnest once during my last stay, even though I lived a 10 minute walk away), was pretty, but not as pretty as the prettier fiwfans-girls, and also 5 years older. Of course, it's a lot nicer to boink a pretty girl in my own place, her st rate was good enough for two sessions, and service was admittedly better than most fiwfans girls too, but I can't be arsed to spend an hour or two looking for a girl I like every day and coming back with tobacco-stinking clothes. I almost went back alone too that one night, until I saw this girl. Did not see anyone else I'd be all that interested in dragging back to the cave. For 1000-1500 baht, ok, but not for a 1000 B barfine plus 3000 B st. Also don't want the security guards at the condo smirking behind my back about what the cat dragged in this time.

Anyhow, there's no point in arguing about what is better or ridiculing other's choices. It's just good too know about the choices. What's practical and good for me may be the opposite for others. Myself, I'm a big fiwfans-fan. An early, cheap, and quick visit at noon, and then I don't later succumb to chasing less than pretty p4p or non-p4p girls in the evening just to fuck "someone". That said, my one night at Soi Cowboy was indeed fun (especially crazy house with the all-nude dancing, though I did not see many pretty there. The one that was kinda pretty was sitting naked on the lap of some fat Korean, giggling like a school child), and probably I'll repeat more often than once a month next time.

[Nyezhov]

I know you mean that tongue and cheek and sarcastically, but in my eyes and in my opinion the Nana area is just not a particularly nice place to go. I loved it 20 years ago, but really don't like what it's become and the type of people it attracts.

We wander it down there on occasion for one reason, to eat Middle Eastern food and then get out of there as quickly as possible.Looks like I'm the sad one, innit, slathering through the gutter down there. But only like once a week.

Anyone remember the worm dude that used to slither down the street?

There used to be Russian food down there, they lost their Chef.

[Axel Heyst]

LOL. You make it sound so sad. ;-)

It is really great we have such a wide variety of choice in Bangkok. Myself I used fiwfans more days than not during my lunch breaks (working full-time unfortunately). The price and ease of access made it very enjoyable, the occasional dud not withstanding. The evenings I spent dating non-p4p girls or gorging on good food, though I also visited go-go bars on occasion. Yes, it's really fun to walk through a handful of go-go bars at night, joke around with some girls, and pick the prettiest girl you see out of a hundred or more different girls, but at least for me, that's only fun on occasion, and I still want to maintain the discipline of waking up early next morning for work. It would not be fun every day, and it would also be too expensive for me, costing three times as much as fiwfans, and taking more time too. I don't know where you got "sad" from my last post. I merely stated my preference for where I like to pick up girls among the various venues available and in addition, I pointed out that when all these other venues were shutdown, it was great to have call girls available on the internet.

Perhaps if I lived in BKK and had a girlfriend, ha ha, I would not have the same night-time freedom to do whatever I want when I want, that I enjoy now. In such a scenario, I might find more utility in seeing fiwfans girls than I do at present. I don't know. But I do know that if I lived in BKK or any similar naughty town, I would soon have a very long contact list of favorite repeat girls, so I doubt I would be bar hopping every night like I do now. If I lived in BKK I would probably only barhop when I had a desire to meet a "new" girl. Once or twice a week. 555.

[Goatscrot]

Looks like I'm the sad one, innit, slathering through the gutter down there. But only like once a week.

Anyone remember the worm dude that used to slither down the street?

There used to be Russian food down there, they lost their Chef.Absolutely! The worm guys were amazing. Been several throughout the years. Icons of lower Suk.

[Goatscrot]

I mean they're right. Fifwans imo is a joke. They never look like their pics. Ever. At least when you see people in person you know 'just about' what you are getting. ANd moreso when they're wearing close to nothing on.Again, you get a much better look when you peruse the Telegram groups. Overall the gals on FF are far better looking than most GoGo gals. But I'm kinda glad it doesn't have wide appeal to most farangs. It's directed at the local punter, and if hordes of farang were using the service, I think there would end up being a backlash and more girls that would not service farangs. I totally understand why it doesn't appeal to tourists. But for the resident it's amazing.

[Banana Boi]

Overall the gals on FF are far better looking than most GoGo gals.

Fiwfans gals overall are nowhere near as dark as what you find and Go-Go's these days.I respect you, Goat, and you know what you are talking about but I'm not really sure how you say these things when you don't walk in to gogo bars. I'm not saying you're right or wrong and I'm definitely not defending BKK gogo girl quality. Just trying to understand how you come to the above conclusions when you don't go to gogo bars.

It's like me saying a Toyota Camry handles better than a BMW M5 when I haven't driven a Camry since I was 16.

[Goatscrot]

I respect you, Goat, and you know what you are talking about but I'm not really sure how you say these things when you don't walk in to gogo bars. I'm not saying you're right or wrong and I'm definitely not defending BKK gogo girl quality. Just trying to understand how you come to the above conclusions when you don't go to gogo bars.

It's like me saying a Toyota Camry handles better than a BMW M5 when I haven't driven a Camry since I was 16.I pop into GoGos a few times a year when friends are in town, and one of those pops was just a week ago. While each bar may have one or two gals, the overall talent level doesn't really impress me. Gals are darker and many have those hard Isaan features I don't like.

I can only speak for Bangkok as I have not been in Patters since before covid.

[EihTooms]

Absolutely! The worm guys were amazing. Been several throughout the years. Icons of lower Suk.When you are near one of the worm guys, stop a moment to look around for an above ground hiding place for the guy's backpack and crutch. Above ground to keep it dry if it rains and also for him to turn around and look up every now and then to keep an eye on it. I saw one set of supplies lashed to the outside of the pedestrian bridge that crosses Sukhumvit between Soi 4 and Soi 6. On the outside of it. From the street level you would barely notice it was there. It was along the rail where you can't see it if you are crossing the bridge but the nearby worm guy can see it from the sidewalk.

I have never been there to see this happen, he probably waits until nobody is close enough to see it, but I imagine when his workday shift is over he quite nimbley hops up those stairs to retrieve his stuff. Might even have a leg prosthetic of some kind in the bag and a change of shirt and pants.

Didn't you ever wonder how he managed to "crawl" across busy Sukhumvit, Soi 4, Soi 8. Soi 11 or any busy soi to go home at night? LOL. That is how.

[Nyezhov]

I pop into GoGos a few times a year when friends are in town, and one of those pops was just a week ago. While each bar may have one or two gals, the overall talent level doesn't really impress me. Gals are darker and many have those hard Isaan features I don't like.

I can only speak for Bangkok as I have not been in Patters since before covid.Can't say that I agree with you on that goat, I don't find the girls isaan looking at all in the Go-Go bars, in fact I have them looking more like those ubiquitous oval-faced Korean Japanese kawaiis.

[Banana Boi]

I pop into GoGos a few times a year when friends are in town, and one of those pops was just a week ago. While each bar may have one or two gals, the overall talent level doesn't really impress me. Gals are darker and many have those hard Isaan features I don't like.If you're referring to Farang bars like Crazy House, Suzie Wong, Billboard, etc. , then absolutely I agree the girls are dark skinned girls. If you're referring to Korean and Japanese bars like Rainbow (4? 5?), Baccara first floor only, etc these bars tend to have lighter skinned girls for their Asian clientele. The latter are the bars I go to. Take me to one of the 3 Farang bars I mentioned and I'm screaming to leave within 10 minutes. Having said that, I do BKK gogo bars as infrequently as you do cause imo they haven't been good since 2017 at least. If I go to BKK I stick to Thermae and Soi 24.

[Allover]

When you are near one of the worm guys, stop a moment to look around for an above ground hiding place for the guy's backpack and crutch. Above ground to keep it dry if it rains and also for him to turn around and look up every now and then to keep an eye on it. I saw one set of supplies lashed to the outside of the pedestrian bridge that crosses Sukhumvit between Soi 4 and Soi 6. On the outside of it. From the street level you would barely notice it was there. It was along the rail where you can't see it if you are crossing the bridge but the nearby worm guy can see it from the sidewalk.

I have never been there to see this happen, he probably waits until nobody is close enough to see it, but I imagine when his workday shift is over he quite nimbley hops up those stairs to retrieve his stuff. Might even have a leg prosthetic of some kind in the bag and a change of shirt and pants.

Didn't you ever wonder how he managed to "crawl" across busy Sukhumvit, Soi 4, Soi 8. Soi 11 or any busy soi to go home at night? LOL. That is how.A few years back I saw one of the worm guys crawling on lower Sukhumvit. It started raining. He got up and walked away.

[Goatscrot]

If you're referring to Farang bars like Crazy House, Suzie Wong, Billboard, etc. , then absolutely I agree the girls are dark skinned girls. If you're referring to Korean and Japanese bars like Rainbow (4? 5?), Baccara first floor only, etc these bars tend to have lighter skinned girls for their Asian clientele. The latter are the bars I go to. Take me to one of the 3 Farang bars I mentioned and I'm screaming to leave within 10 minutes. Having said that, I do BKK gogo bars as infrequently as you do cause imo they haven't been good since 2017 at least. If I go to BKK I stick to Thermae and Soi 24.I still find some good on 24 and 24/1 for sure, and I think the talent is slowly getting a bit better there.

Haven't really loved Thermae in over a decade. It was my main hunting ground in the early 00's. It was such a fun place. A party every night. The gals were so interactive and would grab your pecker as you walked by.

While I do think the Rainbows are ok but still think one can find better on Fiw.

[Banana Boi]

A few years back I saw one of the worm guys crawling on lower Sukhumvit. It started raining. He got up and walked away.It's a miracle! The healing powers of H2O.

[EihTooms]

It's a miracle! The healing powers of H2O.Yes. Remember when Judah Ben-Hur's mother and sister were cured of leprosy from the rain at the end of that movie?

Same thing here.

[Nyezhov]

If you're referring to Farang bars like Crazy House, Suzie Wong, Billboard, etc. , then absolutely I agree the girls are dark skinned girls. If you're referring to Korean and Japanese bars like Rainbow (4? 5?), Baccara first floor only, etc these bars tend to have lighter skinned girls for their Asian clientele. The latter are the bars I go to. Take me to one of the 3 Farang bars I mentioned and I'm screaming to leave within 10 minutes. Having said that, I do BKK gogo bars as infrequently as you do cause imo they haven't been good since 2017 at least. If I go to BKK I stick to Thermae and Soi 24.I usually have one or two Sodas in Biillboard (OK haven't been in there since early August) and I don't find them Isaany at all up there (which I prefer). Twisters is very Isaany in my opinion. But I rarely indulge (unless an absolute feeling of I have to smash that girl floods my glands, which is rare), I just go to make sure I'm not missing anything, I'm a Thermae dude myself.

[Raj Patela]

When you are near one of the worm guys, stop a moment to look around for an above ground hiding place for the guy's backpack and crutch. Above ground to keep it dry if it rains and also for him to turn around and look up every now and then to keep an eye on it. I saw one set of supplies lashed to the outside of the pedestrian bridge that crosses Sukhumvit between Soi 4 and Soi 6. On the outside of it. From the street level you would barely notice it was there. It was along the rail where you can't see it if you are crossing the bridge but the nearby worm guy can see it from the sidewalk.

I have never been there to see this happen, he probably waits until nobody is close enough to see it, but I imagine when his workday shift is over he quite nimbley hops up those stairs to retrieve his stuff. Might even have a leg prosthetic of some kind in the bag and a change of shirt and pants.

Didn't you ever wonder how he managed to "crawl" across busy Sukhumvit, Soi 4, Soi 8. Soi 11 or any busy soi to go home at night? LOL. That is how.Don't mess with the WORM.

Everything on the Street is Mafia Controlled. Even the Lottery Sellers.

[Goatscrot]

I usually have one or two Sodas in Biillboard (OK haven't been in there since early August) and I don't find them Isaany at all up there (which I prefer). Twisters is very Isaany in my opinion. But I rarely indulge (unless an absolute feeling of I have to smash that girl floods my glands, which is rare), I just go to make sure I'm not missing anything, I'm a Thermae dude myself.Of course then comes the absolutely insane cost at GoGo bars. They really are directed at the two week millionaires. Your easily going to drop 150 USD at best and LT, jeez, that's just nuts.

[PayForIt]

So having enjoyed 10 nights in Pattaya, mainly in Gents Clubs, headed to Bangkok a city I know quite well from many trips. On many previous trips I've pretty much concentrated on The area between Nana, via Thermae on Sukhumvit and onto Soi Cowboy, though in 2022 I did have fun on Soi 11 (Suk). This time I wanted to try something a little different, and decided that I would only spend 2 of my 5 nights in those old haunts and for the rest would head to Surawong / Thaniya / Silom area for a change. I was glad I did.

Stayed at various locations including the Okura Prestige very nice indeed though thought the cantilever pool would be the main attraction but it wasn't all that. The lobby and the rooms are superb. Jumped on the BTS to Phrom Phong to check out the "Stocking Spa massage". Appreciate there is a dedicated MP thread so will keep this short fancied the idea of a sexy massage from a hostess in suspenders well was disappointed the girls line up in the parade wearing tights / pantyhose and don't wear stockings with the thick tops at all. 7 girls to chose from and Sky was the best. Stunning slim brunette who made the journey worthwhile chose the Nuru option for 3500 and it was worth every penny everything included.

Decided to do my normal walk in reverse and headed to Cowboy. Absolutely rammed despite the torrential rain no surprise of course as this is rainy season. The overall noise volume has increased somewhat and I found myself asking what on earth I was doing there! Whilst I'm not old and I dolike some great music this was deafening. Conversations are therefore partly shouting. Awful. For old times sake took a beer in each of Baccara, Shark and Suzy Wong's but with one stand out 9/10 in Shark the offerings were poor.

On to Thermae same old You'll find someone to your liking but the format walking that circle isn't the best and the venue is looking tired and past it. Still jam packed inside so I suppose it works and the good news is that it's possible to have a conversation which I found almost impossible in Cowboy. In the many years I've frequented this bar I think I've only taken maybe 5 girls and as I left it I vowed not to return but my guess is I will do!
There are so many other options available in BKK that returning to one that doesn't do it for you isn't worth it.

Onto Nana which was almost a repeat of Cowboy. Tried Billboard and Spankys but nothing special and again the noise levels were prohibitive. Ended up in Hilary 2 also very noisy but good crowd and a decent freelancer made that trip worth it. Not before she begged me to go with her to Analisa massage a short walk away, to "meet her friend" in the hope of a threesome. The friend turned out to be a line up of 6 girls didn't select any but was surprised that 2 of them were 7/10+.

So my 2 nights on Sukhumvit were up and I found myself genuinely wondering if I'm just past the din of it all. I started to wonder why on earth I'the left Pattaya for this but I had work in Bangkok so could not avoid it.

Up and breakfast done headed to new hotel in Surawong the Marriot. It's a 20 min walk to Thaniya but wanted the exercise. Overall I much preferred the Silom / Surawong area. It doesn't suffer the same manic traffic as Suk. Loved the whole area around MahaNakhon and the shops / cafes in its lobby. Thaniya was actually great fun and because it is so wide, it's easy to navigate and without the horrendous booming music of Cowboy or Nana. The options in Thaniya are plentiful. The girls are nearly all in uniform and for sure they are trying to attract a Japanese crowd. As I am not Japanese I noticed that I wasn't getting waved or smiled at as much but I didn't mind that at all and during my 3 nights there no girl I approached rejected an advance. The Managers / mamasans are usually outside with the girls seeking to beckon you in. For most of the bars it is a standard service where you select the girl from outside (most are seated but some stand in lines) and take her to a room for drinks, karaoke if that's your thing and for the sex. Prices range from 2500 to 3500 including 500 or 600 for the room "hire". But there is an expectation you'll buy more than one drink for you and one for the lady at 300 each. It was clearly going to run up a 4-5000 bill which is fine. Yes I know I could get FS in one of the many local oilies for 1500 but the experience was great fun, a little odd in terms of being in an "entertainment" room but you soon relax into it. Alternatively you can go to the Sena club on Thaniya featured in a YouTube video and thought I'the check it out. The girls still sit on stools outside but upstairs there is a large pool table / darts (but no rooms to play in so you take the girl to the hotel if things are going well 3500 inc bar fine so entirely reasonable.

There are a few agogos in the Patpong night market street Kings Castle, Kings Castle II and III and Radio City across the road. Then Pink Panther on the street corner of another road close by. Usual agogo stuff not as full on as Nana / cowboy / or Kink or Windmill in Pattaya (wildest 2 I have been to this trip) but some very pretty options and again 3500 plus a bar fine of only 500.

Visited Octopus Fetish Club small backstreet Patpong Alley (which also boasts a few agogos) 1000 entry plus a drink the guy on the door waving a cane about wanted you to buy a 300 drink on top but relents to 100! Inside wow what a great atmosphere compared to Castle in Pattaya. 8 girls including a mix of ranges and a lovely Madam who is the bar owner who though older still looks really good. Guys butt naked being spanked, one paraded around as a dog in some mask thing (I had to bite a lip not to start laughing). This is not a place for the feint hearted or reserved took a seat expecting to be able to "watch" but you are quickly descended upon by the girls who want you to buy them ladydrinks at 300 and who very swiftly have more than roaming hands and want your clothes off there and then in public view (though its all very red / dark). Several guys were completely naked within 10 minutes of walking through the door and they do not struggle for customers here. That is because the level of "service" in the bar is swift and good. The lady drink 300 price is not cheap but comes with benefits! The girl expects to earn that drink. Two guys came in and bought a round of 5 drinks for 5 girls who then rapidly had their cocks out for blowjobs. It is possible to take girls upstairs to rooms for 3500. Very good vibe in the club.

Plenty of the usual oily options locally in street surrounding Patpong Night Market and usual services all on offer usually for 1000-1500. Got quoted 3000 by the best looking girl I found in one of them but whilst she wouldn't reduce to 1500 we did agree 2000. That was in one of the bigger Urban massage places was surprised they catered for sexual services as it looked more like an upscale massage place and indeed their massages were superb.

All in all another great trip mix of work and pleasure. For those wondering about a break from Cowboy / Nana this was a good choice though you might want to stay at Raya hotel or LE Meridian which are both immediately across the road from Patpong / Thaniya.

[Werqweq]

I don't know where you got "sad" from my last post. I merely stated my preference for where I like to pick up girls among the various venues available and in addition, I pointed out that when all these other venues were shutdown, it was great to have call girls available on the internet.
Sorry, I meant to joke that you make what I did (travel for 24 hours, the look at online photos) sound so sad. .

[Nyezhov]

Sorry, I meant to joke that you make what I did (travel for 24 hours, the look at online photos) sound so sad. .Well it is kinda sad.


Of course then comes the absolutely insane cost at GoGo bars. They really are directed at the two week millionaires. Your easily going to drop 150 USD at best and LT, jeez, that's just nuts.Well I'm a little wacky with no budget, but I agree the costs are insane and sometimes even laughable. That's why I use the Go-Go's to warm up and then I go out and talk to the deaf girls.

[Kuku696]

So having enjoyed 10 nights in Pattaya, mainly in Gents Clubs, headed to Bangkok a city I know quite well from many trips. On many previous trips I've pretty much concentrated on The area between Nana, via Thermae on Sukhumvit and onto Soi Cowboy, though in 2022 I did have fun on Soi 11 (Suk). This time I wanted to try something a little different, and decided that I would only spend 2 of my 5 nights in those old haunts and for the rest would head to Surawong / Thaniya / Silom area for a change. I was glad I did.

Stayed at various locations including the Okura Prestige very nice indeed though thought the cantilever pool would be the main attraction but it wasn't all that. The lobby and the rooms are superb. Jumped on the BTS to Phrom Phong to check out the "Stocking Spa massage". Appreciate there is a dedicated MP thread so will keep this short fancied the idea of a sexy massage from a hostess in suspenders well was disappointed the girls line up in the parade wearing tights / pantyhose and don't wear stockings with the thick tops at all. 7 girls to chose from and Sky was the best. Stunning slim brunette who made the journey worthwhile chose the Nuru option for 3500 and it was worth every penny everything included.

Decided to do my normal walk in reverse and headed to Cowboy. Absolutely rammed despite the torrential rain no surprise of course as this is rainy season. The overall noise volume has increased somewhat and I found myself asking what on earth I was doing there! Whilst I'm not old and I dolike some great music this was deafening. Conversations are therefore partly shouting. Awful. For old times sake took a beer in each of Baccara, Shark and Suzy Wong's but with one stand out 9/10 in Shark the offerings were poor.

On to Thermae same old You'll find someone to your liking but the format walking that circle isn't the best and the venue is looking tired and past it. Still jam packed inside so I suppose it works and the good news is that it's possible to have a conversation which I found almost impossible in Cowboy. In the many years I've frequented this bar I think I've only taken maybe 5 girls and as I left it I vowed not to return but my guess is I will do!..Very nice report with lots of options for the monger who is looking for some variety. I did not know about the "Stocking Spa massage". My stay there in BKK is only for six days and I have one chance for the Nuru massage. I have had one before at Doki Doki when it was newly opened. So, I must pick the right one. Looked at their FB page, which does not have much information. My other option is Ola Ola.

Great to know that there is action in the Silom area too.

[Axel Heyst]

Sorry, I meant to joke that you make what I did (travel for 24 hours, the look at online photos) sound so sad. .Yeah, the 24-hour flight is grueling and most international trans-pacific flights from the USA arrive after 10 pm BKK time. Still, no matter how late I arrive or how exhausted I felt on the plane coming over, once I arrive in BKK I can't wait to check into my hotel, shower, change, and hit the soi to find a nice girl.

[The Cane]

Yeah, the 24-hour flight is grueling and most international trans-pacific flights from the USA arrive after 10 pm BKK time. Still, no matter how late I arrive or how exhausted I felt on the plane coming over, once I arrive in BKK I can't wait to check into my hotel, shower, change, and hit the soi to find a nice girl.I have gone to Thailand over the Atlantic with a stop in Doha on Qatar Airways. I recall that although the journey was long, my flight arrived in Bangkok at like 9 or 10 in the morning. Not bad! Other options at the time were Emirates with a plane change in Dubai and Lufthansa with a connection in Frankfurt. I'm sure there are even more options if you can depart from the east coast. Turkish Airlines through Istanbul is likely to be one of those (flies to more countries than any other airline in the world). Flew with them to the Philippines in Business Class and the flight / service was great!

[HorseTrader]

…Turkish Airlines through Istanbul is likely to be one of those (flies to more countries than any other airline in the world). Flew with them to the Philippines in Business Class and the flight / service was great!Turkish Airlines seems to be forgotten by many, but their prices are normally a bit lower than the competition. They don't get the consistently high reviews like Qatar or Emirates or some others, but I'll be flying them next trip to save some money. They also have a deal where you can pay a bit more money and get 2 economy seats for a bit more comfort at a much lower price than business class.

[Banana Boi]

They also have a deal where you can pay a bit more money and get 2 economy seats for a bit more comfort at a much lower price than business class.I've done this before on cheap flights. I was on one flight where a guy named Karen decided he wanted to move to my extra aisle seat instead of sitting in the middle of 2 people in the middle section of the plane. I told him he can't sit there I paid for that seat and he got upset and just sat there. I decided to argue with him for fun for a bit then said enough is enough I'll just call the flight attendant and told her nicely the guy was sitting in my paid seat. He refused to show a seat ticket when asked. I held up my 2 seat tickets and she got him to move. I purposely walked by him many times during the flight and waved both my tickets towards him.

[Mr Hawaii]

I've done this before on cheap flights. I was on one flight where a guy named Karen decided he wanted to move to my extra aisle seat instead of sitting in the middle of 2 people in the middle section of the plane. I told him he can't sit there I paid for that seat and he got upset and just sat there. I decided to argue with him for fun for a bit then said enough is enough I'll just call the flight attendant and told her nicely the guy was sitting in my paid seat. He refused to show a seat ticket when asked. I held up my 2 seat tickets and she got him to move. I purposely walked by him many times during the flight and waved both my tickets towards him.Flying business class on Philippines Airlines used to be double the coach class. That was many years ago. Now it is about 4 x the economy fare. So. I might try your idea of booking 2 adjoining economy seats for comfort. Of course, the service and meals are not the same, but I like your thinking. Party on.

[Banana Boi]

Be careful doing this though. I'd have a long discussion with the airline first and book directly through the airline. I used to do this many years ago. Things are very different now so do you due diligence with the airline you're flying with. I can see some airlines saying it's an empty seat and booking another ticket for that seat for a last minute traveler. An extra buck is more valuable than your loyalty.

One good thing about flying during COVID or right after it was that planes were empty. Not anymore!

[EihTooms]

LOL. The only 3 times I tried to book girls on fiwfans was a few years ago but I never got past the clerk, dispatcher, pimp, traffic cop, booker or whoever it is you actually chat with on that site. Oh, I still went to the fiwfans site every now and then out of curiosity, encouraged by the occasional rave reviews I've read here with regard to many of the girls' looks and quality of service.

The last time I perused the site being just 2-3 weeks ago. But I just perused, not even attempting to book anyone.

However, since I heard and saw that some fiwfans girls are now actually listing "No Condom OK" on their profile, today I thought, "What the hell. I fit the profile of the long time resident expat with plenty of free time to shop, explore, read and research those ladies". And since I am now living with a sweet regular, non P4 P university girl honey, those daytime fiwfans arrangements at their hotel would be just the ticket for a bit of variety every now and then.

Unfortunately, for the first time in dozens of 'just looking' visits I have made to that site, including quite recently, it looks like I have suddenly been blocked! LOL. No explanation. No owner's email address or any other link included to find out why and how to regain acess to it. Blocked.

Wouldn't you know it. Just when those "No Condom OK" listings began to appear on some of those girls' profiles. LOL.

Oh well, back to ThaiFriendly, Tinder and catching a Nana Plaza go-go girl Short Time every now and then.

If anybody does know how to get unblocked from fiwfans or how I can at least find out what it was about my casual perusing of the site that got me blocked from it, thanks in advance for the info.

[Kaitechee]

You have not been blocked! Just use a different browser and you will be able to use it again. If you had been blocked by Fiwfans, you will get a notice page hosted on Fiwfans, not a page like this.

I think it is a security feature adopted by Fiwfans, it won't work sometimes when you click on Fiwfans link from a different webpage like ISG. If it is Chrome/Safari (usually works in Firefox), just clear everything once and copy and paste the link in your browser, don't click on it.

Hope it helps.


LOL. The only 3 times I tried to book girls on fiwfans was a few years ago but I never got past the clerk, dispatcher, pimp, traffic cop, booker or whoever it is you actually chat with on that site. Oh, I still went to the fiwfans site every now and then out of curiosity, encouraged by the occasional rave reviews I've read here with regard to many of the girls' looks and quality of service.

The last time I perused the site being just 2-3 weeks ago. But I just perused, not even attempting to book anyone.

However, since I heard and saw that some fiwfans girls are now actually listing "No Condom OK" on their profile, today I thought, "What the hell. I fit the profile of the long time resident expat with plenty of free time to shop, explore, read and research those ladies". And since I am now living with a sweet regular, non P4 P university girl honey, those daytime fiwfans arrangements at their hotel would be just the ticket for a bit of variety every now and then.

Unfortunately, for the first time in dozens of 'just looking' visits I have made to that site, including quite recently, it looks like I have suddenly been blocked! LOL. No explanation. No owner's email address or any other link included to find out why and how to regain acess to it. Blocked.

Wouldn't you know it. Just when those "No Condom OK" listings began to appear on some of those girls' profiles. LOL.

Oh well, back to ThaiFriendly, Tinder and catching a Nana Plaza go-go girl Short Time every now and then.

If anybody does know how to get unblocked from fiwfans or how I can at least find out what it was about my casual perusing of the site that got me blocked from it, thanks in advance for the info.

[Goatscrot]

LOL. The only 3 times I tried to book girls on fiwfans was a few years ago but I never got past the clerk, dispatcher, pimp, traffic cop, booker or whoever it is you actually chat with on that site. Oh, I still went to the fiwfans site every now and then out of curiosity, encouraged by the occasional rave reviews I've read here with regard to many of the girls' looks and quality of service.

The last time I perused the site being just 2-3 weeks ago. But I just perused, not even attempting to book anyone.

However, since I heard and saw that some fiwfans girls are now actually listing "No Condom OK" on their profile, today I thought, "What the hell. I fit the profile of the long time resident expat with plenty of free time to shop, explore, read and research those ladies". And since I am now living with a sweet regular, non P4 P university girl honey, those daytime fiwfans arrangements at their hotel would be just the ticket for a bit of variety every now and then.

Unfortunately, for the first time in dozens of 'just looking' visits I have made to that site, including quite recently, it looks like I have suddenly been blocked! LOL. No explanation. No owner's email address or any other link included to find out why and how to regain acess to it. Blocked.

Wouldn't you know it. Just when those "No Condom OK" listings began to appear on some of those girls' profiles. LOL.

Oh well, back to ThaiFriendly, Tinder and catching a Nana Plaza go-go girl Short Time every now and then.

If anybody does know how to get unblocked from fiwfans or how I can at least find out what it was about my casual perusing of the site that got me blocked from it, thanks in advance for the info.Are you using a VPN?

[KumuMan]

Flying business class on Philippines Airlines used to be double the coach class. That was many years ago. Now it is about 4 x the economy fare. So. I might try your idea of booking 2 adjoining economy seats for comfort. Of course, the service and meals are not the same, but I like your thinking. Party on.Only Business class for me. 4 times economy cost I don't know as I don't book that option. I just can't see myself standing in that long line at the airport, especially in the PI.

[HorseTrader]

Be careful doing this though. I'd have a long discussion with the airline first and book directly through the airline. I used to do this many years ago. Things are very different now so do you due diligence with the airline you're flying with. I can see some airlines saying it's an empty seat and booking another ticket for that seat for a last minute traveler. An extra buck is more valuable than your loyalty.

One good thing about flying during COVID or right after it was that planes were empty. Not anymore!Based on the actual booking process on Turkish Airlines, they seem to work a bit differently than most airlines. I could not select my economy seat unless I specifically booked an empty seat next to me, which is different than just booking 2 unspecified seats. Fortunately, you learn that you cannot select your economy seat before you give them your credit card number, unlike some airlines where you have to give credit card information before you even know what seats are available. I have no idea how seats are assigned if you purchase a single economy seat on Turkish Airlines. Perhaps that system is only used on some flight routes, I don't know the limitations.

i agree with the concept of booking only with the airline. Go ahead and look at Priceline (and others) to get an idea of what is available, but booking is best done directly with the airline. It gives more options and it eliminates the middle man in case there are last minute travel problems.