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Had been meaning to stop by Soi 7's Beer Garden, just to see its current state, given its grimness last year. Other more important things on the to-do list, but the BG got pushed to the top after I read Stick's column this week. Didn't know what to expect. The Soi 7 corner has certainly changed, though now, you don't have to exit from the BTS in the opposite direction from Soi 7. Now, they've nicely made a connection to the old pedestrian overpass closer to Soi 7, so it's a bit easier.
Walked down the Soi, and a bit of a surprise, the BG sign still there (guess I was expecting a vacant lot). It's now just a mass of beer bars, an expanding mutation of what was there last year. A mamasan flagged me down, saying "This is the BG" (probably due to my age), and sure enough, at the far side, where the original entrance and the alter were, there it was. But like an old lady, shoved into a corner by the younger generation. Like one of my CHEAP $5 t-shirts, mistakenly washed in hot water then thrown into the dryer, shrunk from adult to child's size. Gone is the front wall, now open to the street. ONE tiny bar with a pool table in front, really indistinguishable from all the other beer bars there. One tree, the one by the old entrance has survived, but the other on the opposite side, gone. Mamasan said "cut down, for money". Sad.
Yes, the BG was old school. But once upon a time, a nice place to me to meet up with friends, have a drink and a conversation where you could hear yourselves, before heading out to Nana or Cowboy. And, for me, a nice place in an afternoon, having stopped by Soi 5's Foodland to pick up a Bangkok Post NEWSPAPER, take the shortcut (still there) to the BG, and peruse Trink's night Owl column, or the Sloane Ranger, or Sunday's page 2, with last week's / upcoming week's news, with some witty comments on each (some rather surprising for their jabs). With a bit of luck, you could catch an afternoon delight, originally a taxi to the Playboy Motel with its carport curtains, later on a SHORT walk to Soi 7/1's hotel, a mix of tourists and ST rooms on the lower floors. And last week of the month, before payday, reasonable chance of a shop girl looking to pick up some cash to tide her over until said payday. In the early evening, the BG could be packed with men drinking and FL's looking to score. Now, while I was there in the early afternoon, a couple of other mature gents stopping by, no doubt for old times sake, one over-the-hill provider, the mamasan the only staff. Still had ONE big screen TV for sports.
Like the old rambling ranch style home you'd visit while growing up, now, it's gone, and the lot has been transformed into those small sheds to house the homeless. If this sounds like an obituary, guess it is.
Annies, Eden, SOL, Beer Garden... No, I don't live in the past, but I do pay homage to it, given the pleasant memories generated by each.
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On just about the last hot / humid / no-breeze day, EARLY afternoon, took a stroll along Soi 23 for old times sake. 3-5 girls outside each of the MP's. One at each shop tasked as the tout, calling out "Massage" and holding up the laminated price sheet as you passed. Most looking bored and disinterested. One, maybe two, along the whole stretch MIGHT have been worth of a second glance if they'd looked up from their phone. Figure if they're glued to the phone, they won't be glued to you. Happy to say, it was just a stroll, nothing that remotely kindled any kind of desire. Only benefit was a bit of exercise of the vertical nature.
ChrisCross123
11-17-23, 14:25
Hello guys, ... Great report. Much appreciated. More of that is needed.
young and stunning ... tattooed, some stretch marksWish I could overlook those.
Didn't even put her boobs in my face. She stayed fairly low, giving me little chance to interact with her in any way, which I thought was a shame.Why didn't you just tell her to get a little closer or pull her closer?
Next place was Soi Cowboy ... trying to pull you to their placeIf a girl (in Thailand) tries to physically pull you then "she" is usually a ladyboy. Went there once and it was just too annoying. In Vietnam this seems to be also common among actual girls.
... festive ... Very festive indeed.
Apparently you can find some crazy entertainment here (turtle show?And I don't even want to know what that is.
No idea of the prices or services here, if you can pick girl or just enjoy the show while getting blown.There's so much wrong with that statement except for one thing which is that it implies you didn't go. I never accept anything in those places without someone telling me clearly what it costs and I certainly not going to receive a BJ from a girl I can't choose and I also won't enjoy any of those weird shows. Be it turtles or birds or ping pongs.
Best for the last: Nana Garden.Where did you dig this term out?
Basically an Acienda of strip clubs and bars.A what?
Girls in sexy in sexy undies everywhere, either pulling you in, or just taking a break and eating.Great area to check the ladies out because the light is better in the hall. So I can check for stretch marks and skin problems.
Quantity and quality of girls is insane from my pov. I'd say easily 1000 girls in the whole "garden" ? Plenty of 8-9.Quantity for sure. Quality. Meh. Never seen a 9 there. An 8 is possible if I look long enough.
Wanted to bring back a girl to my hostel for the second day.Hostel? I hope you mean hotel as you wrote above. For the sake of your bunk bed neighbors, please. Why not some hour hotel around the corner of Nana? The girls will show you the way.
That place is fucking incredible.It is truly addicting. Can't wait to be back very soon. As I said the quality is not always sufficient for my distinguished taste and the post-op ladyboy paranoia is a little tiring but damn do I feel like a child in a candy store and I can have anything I like.
As soon as you enter, a waitress will bring you to a place to sit.Not if you politely gesture her to leave you alone. I first walk around a little because there is no point in sitting down or even ordering a beer if there is no girl I fancy.
I ordered a Gin Tonic for 170 bahts,Little advice. Do not order anything other than a bottle of beer that is being opened in front of you in seedy venues. Also anything other than beer will be disappointing assume you know what that spirit is supposed to taste like. Only god knows what they put in there, you're lucky if it just tastes like crap. They certainly won't treat you with anything legit.
and in my case, a shot for the waitress (another 200).A little tip can lubricate the whole experience. But I would use those bribes only goal-driven. Anything else is just wasting money.
I asked the waitress how it worked: she quoted me 4000 bahts for the girl, plus 700 bahts of bar fine, for 2 hours. Did prices increase or did your throwing money around get you branded? Last time (March 2023) I paid 3000 for the girl and 1000 bar fine. In three different bars there.
She wore a white shirt with black short and some sneaker which gave her a girl-next-door vibe.I always (four times) asked the girl / mamasan to take the heels with her or put them on. Never a problem. I think once I told the girl to bring her bar outfit.
Must have been a pretty comical scene seeing the two of us go back to my hotel. "comical" or intimidating. Your choice. But you seem to be a friendly and down to earth guy. You have my sympathy.
I undressed and entered the shower alone, while she undressed outside the bathroom. And where was you phone and wallet? (Was you ho (s) tel room so I assume locked in the safe.) I hope at least those you took with you into the shower. Weird decision making anyway. Dude, that was your chance to shower with a sexy lady. Wouldn't even consider showering alone. Just think of all the nice things you can do there. Also wouldn't trust that the girl is still there.
We caressed and kissed a bit, You have no idea where that mouth was just hours before. LOL.
After a while, she asked me if "I was ready". This starts to sound a little comical indeed.
I'm quite big so she moaned and screamed a bit as I entered her. I began gently, to slowly increase the pace which she seemed to enjoy.So, you actually engaged in sexual intercourse, I can't believe it by now.
She seemed quite sad to go back to her work, but I was completely spent and there was no way I would take her overnight. Well, short time is 2 hours and you bet I'll keep them busy for 120 minutes straight. Some times they joke about how it's getting too much and that Japanese guys just come after 5 minutes and that's it. Now you know why they prefer Asians. Also smaller dick. I read sometimes that the FLs from Nana refused to do a second round. I never even considered that as an option. Maybe it helped that I always went very late to Nana, so they usually went home anyway. Maybe earlier in the day mamasan will request them to return ASAP as possible. Usually at least three rounds. Sometimes four.
Had been meaning to stop by Soi 7's Beer Garden, just to see its current state, given its grimness last year. ...... but I do pay homage to it, given the pleasant memories generated by each.Every time I see the word Beergarden I get PTSD symptoms. Years back when the thing was booze, not weed, I went there to eat a fried pig knuckle and ended up in a short time room with a girl who with booze googles looked young and fab in the dim lighting, but who rapidly turned into something out of the Excorcist, complete with grimaces as I pounded away. And in those days, I was in better shape so for the whole 2 minutes I thought I would be devoured by the demons from hell.
That's my fond Beer Garden memory. My Ugliest fuck in Thailand.
The pig knuckles were good though. But I haven't been back for one since, what if she's still there?
While several of you are waxing nostalgic about Annie's, BG, and Soi 22 et. Al. From the golden years, I, only at the tender age of 66, started coming to Bangkok in 2015. One of my favorite haunts, although much maligned on these pages, was Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. It was a raucous rock and roll club and bar with sometimes decent Filipino and Thai rock bands and a bevy of slightly over the hill dames who were more than happy to accompany you for a long time night of horizontal fun for a reasonable price and no bar fine. Sometimes, just a beer or two, a quick negotiation, and it was on.
Bangkok Beat was owned by a French guy, now passed on, who got into some sort of financial difficulty and sold the establishment around 2018. It is the current location of a hotel and located directly across from the Atlas Hotel, a reputed short time place on this Soi. Only recently, I discovered this Soi 7/1 was also used as a set for some of the Hangover 2 movie. Further up at the end of the Soi is a massage place called Annies, which may be the reincarnation of the Annies in Nana Plaza. Direct across from Annies is the Green Room, a small but decent blues and rock band club and bar. Alas, no P4 P are there under general circumstances.
As to your recent critique of a members report:
1. The mixed drinks in Billboard are fine. Iced coffee is excellent BTW. Your "advice" to drink only beer is based on what?
2. There are plenty of 9's and 8's and even a 10 or two in Nana. I was there as recently as November 16. How many times have you been there in 2023?
3. I won't say RTFF because of the lag in the way posts appear but you will note that as I have reported NOW Barfines in Billboard are 700 and the girls ask for 4000. Which amount the Mamasans try to collect. Try is the operative word on me because I don't do that. Again, the barfines and fee requested are 700 B and 4000 B. Now I don't know when this came into effect, or if other places are doing it, but I'm on a mission to find out. In fact, I'm going out there tonight, Saturday.
4. Don't kiss that mouth because you don't know where it has been before? Get real dude. You kiss those titties after some dude spewed man chowder all over them? You let her grab your salami after she pulled a finger out of my utterly foul and repulsive ass? You wear a full body condom, do you? Saran wrap your face before diving into and tonguing that glistening clam of love?
5. Coyotes and Drink Girls and Dancers will pull you into their bars. Street ladyboys leave white folks alone, even on Soi Nana. This is Bangkok, not Pattaya. Oh and if all the girls that pull you into bars are ladyboys, why do you let them pull you in to a ladyboy bar?
While several of you are waxing nostalgic about Annie's, BG, and Soi 22 et. Al. From the golden years, I, only at the tender age of 66, started coming to Bangkok in 2015. One of my favorite haunts, although much maligned on these pages, was Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. It was a raucous rock and roll club and bar with sometimes decent Filipino and Thai rock bands and a bevy of slightly over the hill dames who were more than happy to accompany you for a long time night of horizontal fun for a reasonable price and no bar fine. Sometimes, just a beer or two, a quick negotiation, and it was on.
Bangkok Beat was owned by a French guy, now passed on, who got into some sort of financial difficulty and sold the establishment around 2018. It is the current location of a hotel and located directly across from the Atlas Hotel, a reputed short time place on this Soi. Only recently, I discovered this Soi 7/1 was also used as a set for some of the Hangover 2 movie. Further up at the end of the Soi is a massage place called Annies, which may be the reincarnation of the Annies in Nana Plaza. Direct across from Annies is the Green Room, a small but decent blues and rock band club and bar. Alas, no P4 P are there under general circumstances.Bangkok Beat was great. The girls werent really over the hill, I see older dancing in Nana. Its all about the makeup.
Then there was the old Eden Club.
Annies is the same as Wood Bar for staff. I never have been in there.
Raj Patela
11-18-23, 01:41
Great report. Much appreciated. More of that is needed.
Wish I could overlook those.
Why didn't you just tell her to get a little closer or pull her closer?
If a girl (in Thailand) tries to physically pull you then "she" is usually a ladyboy. Went there once and it was just too annoying. In Vietnam this seems to be also common among actual girls.
Very festive indeed.
And I don't even want to know what that is.
There's so much wrong with that statement except for one thing which is that it implies you didn't go. I never accept anything in those places without someone telling me clearly what it costs and I certainly not going to receive a BJ from a girl I can't choose and I also won't enjoy any of those weird shows. Be it turtles or birds or ping pongs.
Where did you dig this term out?
A what?
Great area to check the ladies out because the light is better in the hall. So I can check for stretch marks and skin problems.
Quantity for sure. Quality. Meh. Never seen a 9 there. An 8 is possible if I look long enough.
Hostel? I hope you mean hotel as you wrote above. For the sake of your bunk bed neighbors, please. Why not some hour hotel around the corner of Nana? The girls will show you the way.
It is truly addicting. Can't wait to be back very soon. As I said the quality is not always sufficient for my distinguished taste and the post-op ladyboy paranoia is a little tiring but damn do I feel like a child in a candy store and I can have anything I like.
Not if you politely gesture her to leave you alone. I first walk around a little because there is no point in sitting down or even ordering a beer if there is no girl I fancy.
Little advice. Do not order anything other than a bottle of beer that is being opened in front of you in seedy venues. Also anything other than beer will be disappointing assume you know what that spirit is supposed to taste like. Only god knows what they put in there, you're lucky if it just tastes like crap. They certainly won't treat you with anything legit.
A little tip can lubricate the whole experience. But I would use those bribes only goal-driven. Anything else is just wasting money.
Did prices increase or did your throwing money around get you branded? Last time (March 2023) I paid 3000 for the girl and 1000 bar fine. In three different bars there.
I always (four times) asked the girl / mamasan to take the heels with her or put them on. Never a problem. I think once I told the girl to bring her bar outfit.
"comical" or intimidating. Your choice. But you seem to be a friendly and down to earth guy. You have my sympathy.
And where was you phone and wallet? (Was you ho (s) tel room so I assume locked in the safe.) I hope at least those you took with you into the shower. Weird decision making anyway. Dude, that was your chance to shower with a sexy lady. Wouldn't even consider showering alone. Just think of all the nice things you can do there. Also wouldn't trust that the girl is still there.
You have no idea where that mouth was just hours before. LOL.
This starts to sound a little comical indeed.
So, you actually engaged in sexual intercourse, I can't believe it by now.
Well, short time is 2 hours and you bet I'll keep them busy for 120 minutes straight. Some times they joke about how it's getting too much and that Japanese guys just come after 5 minutes and that's it. Now you know why they prefer Asians. Also smaller dick. I read sometimes that the FLs from Nana refused to do a second round. I never even considered that as an option. Maybe it helped that I always went very late to Nana, so they usually went home anyway. Maybe earlier in the day mamasan will request them to return ASAP as possible. Usually at least three rounds. Sometimes four.This retort to original post is Funny as BleeP. More please.
Jarjarmissa
11-18-23, 08:46
Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?
Newton York
11-18-23, 08:50
In Japan (and I assume Korea) they sell shirt button and belt cameras. There are shops that specialize in these items in Akihabara and Ikebukuro. You can buy cheap ones for 200-300 USD but if you want really high quality ones (ie 4k or 8k) you're looking at 1000++ USD(?). GoPro has the new mini 11 camera but they're still significantly larger than the other possibilities I mention. GoPro's also have very poor aperture meaning they completely suck in low light. DJI Mini Action 4 could be what he's using. They are the cameras made for drones. Just checked DJI site and they're 759 USD.
From the movement when he's walking I'm guessing this is a belt camera or a mini camera attached to his belt or a front pocket. A mini DJI would still be noticeable if you were looking at the guy's crotch but would be undetectable if you are just walking around. I'm sure he's camouflaged the cam. A belt camera would be undetectable because they look like an ugly belt buckle.I agree Banana Boi, I think it's definitely some kind of set up that's around the waist or chest. And that's true, even the latest gopro isn't going to cut it with night footage. What you mentioned with the DJI might be what it takes, but watching some of this videos, I suspect it's also a cellphone. When it really needs to be hidden, like when he's shooting in soapies or walking right up to the chicks or especially when he does his Thaniya rounds, I bet it's a souped up action camera hidden somewhere, but other times when he's walking around and chicks are clearly making eye contact with him, he's got to be using his phone, probably the latest iphone or a souped up samsung. Yeah, he's definitely hiding the camera well, my theory is a hole in a fanny pack around his waist, and if the lens is small enough, then almost no one will notice, especially at night in crowded areas like this. I got to learn this stuff if I'm going to be as awesome as this guy. In this sad, sad age of social media with camera phones everywhere, non-stop selfies, cctv's at every corner of every city in the world, we're all on camera all the time. At this point by now, every one of us is in somebody's photo and footage, we just have to accept it and join in the fun. We all know why we're in Bangkok anyway. Bangkok exists for one reason, and one reason only.
Was in Bangkok for a week and decided to not visit the normal P2 P scene and attempt my luck with fiwfans. RTTF, I understand that all images are photoshopped and went knowing full well of the bait and switch, but why not? I haven't been back to Bangkok in over 3+ years.
Msg'd agencies through LINE and here are their responses to accepting foreigner.
MADAM88888 = no.
PinkPanther Club = yes.
TSG = yes.
Only Your Fans = yes.
Celine.
https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raeaielah9d9o1
Images are a bit shopped, but not by much. She is thin / spinner with small A. Not the best oral, not sure how she doesn't get whip-lashed with her head movements. Attitude was better than all the others I visited.
WIR: Yes.
Alicia.
https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raekk3lkz3vwns
Medium-Heavy photoshop. Darker in skin tone, for those that cares, man-made see, slender body. She was still eating when I arrived, didn't bother me much, but the play wasn't the best. She took the lead and rushed all the positions.
WIR: No.
Fiko.
https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae3ugl9wd6zo1
Bad experience before meeting her and cancelled. Setup a time and left to meet her, was told to buy condom and brought some on my way there. Because of this, I was 1 minute late to the scheduled appointment. LINE her many times, with barely a response. The 2nd time I messaged her, she responded with "And? Then nothing. After multiple messages and waiting for 30 minutes, I decided to call it quit. She was responsive after I said I was done and going home.
WIR: No.
I had others with TSG and Only Your Fans, but their profiles aren't active anymore and I can't remember their names. Nothing to write more about and I wouldn't have repeated with them. Basically, the only lady I would repeat with is Celine. Great overall service by her.
Expat American
11-18-23, 10:51
In. We all know why we're in Bangkok anyway. Bangkok exists for one reason, and one reason only.The population of Bangkok is over 10 million people. I can assure you the vast majority of them are not involved in the sex industry. There is an entire strata of society that wouldn't be caught dead socializing with the sexpat crowd.
Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?Read the Forum. No Russian frelancers in BKK Clubs, hasnt been a Russian on the street since that fat old blonde 10 plus years ago.
I did all the research for you:
Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.
Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.
Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.
Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.
Twister: too skeezy to ask.
I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.
My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".
There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.
Raj Patela
11-19-23, 02:15
The population of Bangkok is over 10 million people. I can assure you the vast majority of them are not involved in the sex industry. There is an entire strata of society that wouldn't be caught dead socializing with the sexpat crowd.You both are right.
Of every Sex Dollar spent. Tourist only account for 20%.
I'm of the opinion Thailand is a Big Brothel. Sex is just so accessible.
Raj Patela
11-19-23, 02:32
Alert: I tried to Bar find a hottie in billboard, and The mamasan Wanted the girls fee which was quoted as 4,000. I have no problem with the amount but I don't pay the massage before hand. This requires further investigation.
Don't waste your time with number 401 in rainbow, a short little cutie, she asked for 6,000.Rainbow 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,or 8?
It is the current location of a hotel and located directly across from the Atlas Hotel, a reputed short time place on this Soi. Only recently, I discovered this Soi 7/1 was also used as a set for some of the Hangover 2 movie. Further up at the end of the Soi is a massage place called Annies, which may be the reincarnation of the Annies in Nana Plaza. Direct across from Annies is the Green Room, a small but decent blues and rock band club and bar. Alas, no P4 P are there under general circumstances.Atlas Hotel, that was the name. The preferred ST hotel for the BG FL'ers. Short walk, front desk right inside the entrance, something like 300-350 per hour, no ID required. The rooms were on the 3rd or 4th floor, with the civilians staying on the floors above (at least I never saw a civilian on the ST floor, just cleaning ladies tidying up the rooms). Rooms were not all that bad for a ST hotel, but they didn't have the sex furniture that the PB Hotel had.
Annies on Soi 7/1 is where the NAME of the old soapie moved to, but from what I've heard, the name is all that moved.
Well, the weather has certainly improved. Cooler (relatively) and definitely less humidity, with a nice breeze most of the day. Last week, couldn't walk 5 blocks before my shirt was soaked with sweat. Entering any A/C, even the Sky Train, and I was freezing. Yesterday, out and about, walking a full hour, running errands, and shirt dry enough I could sit in Took Lae Dee's A/C without freezing. Sakura Akasuri (salt tapping) yesterday afternoon didn't seem all that busy unlike my previous visit. Nice weather and scrubbed clean...
Banana Boi
11-19-23, 03:51
Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?Quickly browsed some of your posts. You are looking for non pro Russian girls in their 30's to go out with you for money. First you're looking in the wrong city. Lots of Russian girls in Pattaya. Go there. I could name the pro girl bars for you but you seem to be searching for non pro so I can't help you. There was a Russian non pro bar in Pattaya years ago don't believe it survived COVID. Someone can correct me. I've never been there so it didn't matter to me. I've never dated a Russian girl in Pattaya nor have I tried. Got way too many Russian girls where I'm from to begin with.
YetAnotherGuy
11-19-23, 04:09
Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?Bangkok is definitely not your best bet for this. Dubai isn't that far away.
Star Sheriff
11-19-23, 12:49
I am now already in Bangkok, and as I am busy until next weekend I could meet and monger in the evenings during the week.
As I am short time here I would like to hang around with other monger (s) who knows the city and culture, with whom I could go in some clubs and see what happens.
Please PM.
Decent weather, weekend, high noon, went out to Chatuchak Market. A number of people, but NOT packed, so rather nice. Fun place to people watch and to pick up some gifts for the home folks. Couple of shops I've done business with for a time, some decades, always fun to see what new items they have. I do studiously avoid the pets section. And the one-size-fits-all T-shirts... they don't.
And, for YEARS, I'd always stop at Viva26, section 26, to rehydrate. However, last year it was gone, didn't survive Covid. But this year, happy to report another watering hole has formed in its spot, even expanding, La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7). So anyone taking an intermission from the entertainment scene, after wandering around Chatuchak for a few hours, great place to take some refreshments and people watch. The Latin music seems a bit incongruous for the scene, but certainly BETTER than Christmas carols (long gone are the days where one could escape THOSE by visiting BKK.).
Couple of days ago, stopped by the Dunkin Donuts off of Sukhumvit, Soi 13. SMALL shop taking up a LITTLE space in an office building. Nowhere near the size nor the convenience of the one that used to be at the foot of the BTS escalator at Asok. Not much selection in the afternoon, but maybe the morning office workers had picked it clean. Today, post Chatuchak, looked up Dunkin Donuts on Silom. Quite convenient, directly off the Sky Train platform, turnstile level, 3rd floor of the golf center building, just head straight into the building on the short bridge from the BTS rather than down the stairs to Silom. Decent selection INCLUDING.... wait for it...wait for it... Bavarian cream. 8 for 100 baht.
Raj Patela
11-19-23, 14:21
I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.
My answer to above is HELL YEAH.
I got nothing but School Girl to report on.
Raj Patela
11-19-23, 14:25
Things not looking good for High Season. It's dreadful here in Pattaya.
Tourist Authority will pay Indian s somehow to get them here. Then businesses won't let them in,. Weird.
'Couple of days ago, stopped by the Dunkin Donuts off of Sukhumvit, Soi 13. SMALL shop taking up a LITTLE space in an office building. '.
The precise location is the ground floor of the Trendy Building, which houses condo's and retail shops on the lower level. The Dunkin Donuts is just to the left as you walk in. It has a small seating area and adequate selection of donuts for about 30 bt.
I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.
This might be a strange concept for some, hard to grasp, but there are those who have a life outside of the entertainment areas; rather a traveler than a tourist. And with that come Thai civilian friends (another strange concept for some) who give invitations to get out of the city and go up-country and visit. Myself, the entertainment gets the, as the Thais say, "same, same, but different", so, myself, I need to cleanse the ole palate. And Mom always said (you really should listen to Mom) to never arrive as a guest empty handed. Gelato works, but it is a hassle on those long slogs, even if & puts in dry ice in the bag. Solution: donuts. The kids like them, not something they usually get, and the adults, well, it's a change from the usual with the morning coffee. But the first requirement is that you actually have friends that invite you to visit and will put you up. Certainly easier for some than for others, even with the Thai hospitality.
Also works for you in BKK if you want a change from the fresh baked croissants that can be found at Tops Bakery...
Strange: twice today, 2 separate occasions, I thanked a man in Thai, and he, speaking perfect English, thanked me for speaking Thai, he appreciated it. Now, he might have been pulling my leg, but he seemed serious. Later, I let an older (which IS saying something) lady on the escalator in front of me, She thanked me in Thai, and I responded in Thai "that's OK" (which came close to exhausting my Thai vocabulary). And she started talking to me, going on and on, in Thai. Sure, she might have been scolding me, but she certainly had a smile on her face, and what little I did catch was she surmised I didn't speak the Isan dialect. Maybe that's what happens when the locals feel overrun by foreigners.
But taking a page from YOUR book of what counts as info:
Chatuchak: early afternoon, a number of hotties. Might have spotted a 10, but she was moving pretty fast and got masked in a crowd. But certainly a few 9's (Thai, Chinese but couldn't say if PRC or Taiwanese, think some Korean), all in sections 11-26, and certainly a number of 7's and 8's (Asian, but even a smattering of Caucasian), same sections, plus a few in the MRT station. And since you never post post-viewing, seems immaterial here too.
'Couple of days ago, stopped by the Dunkin Donuts off of Sukhumvit, Soi 13. SMALL shop taking up a LITTLE space in an office building. '.
The precise location is the ground floor of the Trendy Building, which houses condo's and retail shops on the lower level. The Dunkin Donuts is just to the left as you walk in. It has a small seating area and adequate selection of donuts for about 30 bt.Thanks for the precise location. That was it, but late afternoon, the offerings were SPARSE. It had been picked over. The one over on Silom, maybe the same size, but much better offerings on a late Sunday afternoon. And they had Bavarian cream (with the chocolate top) that was nowhere to be seen last year. 32 baht per, or 8 for 100 baht (better deal, Thai country families are large).
I am now already in Bangkok, and as I am busy until next weekend I could meet and monger in the evenings during the week.
As I am short time here I would like to hang around with other monger (s) who knows the city and culture, with whom I could go in some clubs and see what happens.
Please PM.Way back when, there were some offerings of paid guided tours for newbies. Could never see the reason myself. A bit of reading here, take some notes, and blaze your own trail. That's part of the fun, personal discovery. Guided tours, nahhhhh. About the only time I've been an escort were when Thai friends wanted to enter Nana but couldn't unless accompanied. For some real fun with benefits, pull a girl from a bar, pay the bar fine and have HER show you around... Talk about LOCAL experience... And don't worry, she'll want to go just to check out the competition and other work environments... And she'll run interference for any scams as she wants you to keep your money in your pocket, so that there's more for her...
I did all the research for you:
Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.
Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.
Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.
Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.
Twister: too skeezy to ask.
I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.
My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".
There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.Good concise intel. How times change. Guess the days of pay AFTER are gone; shame, the pay AFTER was an oft recited mantra. But I can see the reasons and that happens in a number of countries and why certain nationalities are frowned on and even not welcome, so really not so weird. You talk to the girls basically anywhere and they'll tell you the reasons.
Banana Boi
11-19-23, 18:06
I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.
Maybe they'll be hiring some Russian girls soon!
I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.
My answer to above is HELL YEAH.
I got nothing but School Girl to report on.School girl was out tonight.
Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.
Raj Patela
11-20-23, 01:13
Good concise intel. How times change. Guess the days of pay AFTER are gone; shame, the pay AFTER was an oft recited mantra. But I can see the reasons and that happens in a number of countries and why certain nationalities are frowned on and even not welcome, so really not so weird. You talk to the girls basically anywhere and they'll tell you the reasons.Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?
I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.
I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.
I did all the research for you:
Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.
Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.
Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.
Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.
Twister: too skeezy to ask.
I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.
My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".
There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.
Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.Guess if you have a metered connection, bandwidth might be an issue. Or are you still using dialup? Certainly not on the server side. And some of us just might want to have something sweet with our coffee after a morning wakeup, and don't you offer your guest a pastry with her coffee?
Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.
Seems to be a growing trend. I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I knew from last year asked for money before last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings... but not enough to nix the experience as I do know (biblical sense) her. Do I really need a haircut that bad?
Raj Patela
11-20-23, 05:49
Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.It's not 1999.
In the year 19999 I bought a rinky dinky condo for $72,000. Now it's approaching $300,000.
Grasp the concept People.
In 1999 My 🍟 man made $5. 69. Now the same same fries 🍟 man is pushing $25.
Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.Gets even better.
After the deed is done, they go back, punch back into the bar, and look for a bar fine fine again.
It's way not the old days anymore.
Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?
I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.
I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.I can't identify any bars which are a problem or not for Indian people. I'm really not a big fan of at the Go-Go bars for the reasons that goat set forth. I've only barfined a girl on two occasions this entire year. The whole process is annoying. And quite frankly, I think it's a ripoff, but every once in awhile during my travels a siren calls to me and I end up on the rocks.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.You've been spoiled by all these years living in Bangkok, with pussy available everywhere and everyday.
You think guys coming from a sex prison country really care that she cannot hold a conversation? What they want is her body, at that point these guys don't care she is an Isaan farmer's daughter.
And as we read it often here, they usually say it's still cheaper than where they're coming from, so they go for it.
It's very clear the gogo system is not for everyone anymore, it's getting very expensive.
Good concise intel. Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of bold .
Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.
Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days....
..Seems to be a growing trend. I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I knew from last year asked for money before last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings..Oh most definitely a different punter demographic these days. I noticed it my first visit back to Nana after Covid. Some of my regulars have told me of this as well. It seems to be a post Covid thing. Behaviors have changed since Covid in America, more rudeness as if that was even possible.
Look at some of the demeaning posts on this forum in the last years. One has a bad experience, we don't use words that demean women or the Thai race but the different punter demographic set definitely does. It is just a bad experience with one person. That can happen in any business anywhere in the world. It has nothing to do with ethnicity or sex.
Be polite guys. It is easy. Please. Thailand is paradise for us. Keep it that way.
p.s. Bravo, get a haircut, you dirty hippy. lol
Anyone know of any pregnant or lactating providers in BKK? Bucket list thing. I will be there next week.
I am a respectful guy and always nice to my providers. I will meet you at a pool hall if you want to make sure you can recommend me.
Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.Some punters who don't pay after the girl is in the room and maybe even after they are naked in their bed are the ones who "go with the flow", negotiate nothing upfront and then discover they are going to get nothing they wanted in the first place. It isn't necessarily that the dude got everything from the girl and then sent her packing with only taxi fare. It is also sometimes the case that the girl gave him nothing but "her time" after he paid the barfine and took her to his room and that is why he sent her packing with only taxi fare. If that much.
But that isn't what the girl is going to tell the mamasan and all of her co-workers in the bar.
In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.
That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.
Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.
But there are other punters who don't see it that way.
Banana Boi
11-20-23, 20:52
I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry,Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.
I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD.
Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.
I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD."A given"? Hmm. OK. Who says so?
Yes, requesting anything upfront from a Thermae girl standing shoulder to shoulder in a line up is sure to get a negative response even if she routinely gives everything in the room to anyone without hesitation. That's why I consider Thermae to be one of the worst mongering options for those of us who have requirements beyond the girl popping open her legs to endure 10 minutes of fully covered coitus for 3,000 baht.
But it can and has been done. Whispering the scariest parts like DFK, BBBJ and, for sure, BBFS+CIP works sometimes. Typing it out on Google Translate and showing her, only her, the screen. Then you wait for her shriek and collapse in the line up. All the other girls can guess what she just read before fainting. LOL. Maybe BBBJ+CIM is an even scarier and more impossible to imagine thought for a 3,000 baht Thermae girl. Not sure.
I honestly suspect the main reason river's of (overwhelmingly Asian) customers circle the bar and then 99.9% of them walk out alone is because discussing anything important about the session is so uncomfortable in that place and nothing to do with all of the girls being unsuitable for fucking on a given night.
I have on occasion taken a Thermae girl without discussing any of those things. My relatively rare "go with the flow" experiences. Probably 15 different times over the years. Not one was worth the time or money. But hope springs eternal. It's a 2,500 - 3,000 baht gamble and I have certainly wasted more time and money than that on a "go with the flow" bet.
Raj Patela
11-21-23, 01:41
Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of bold .
Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.I could use some recommendations on where to find good Mayonnaise to put on my Baloney Sammich. Maybe Mr 11 B could a fella out. No Kraft Brand please. I want Exotic Hot Mayo.
In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.
That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.
Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.Well said. Punting 101.
I've said it many times in many climes: specify YOUR menu desires, find out HER menu, determine if it matches, ask yourself if you can accept any missing appetizers or even a different main course, and agree to it, including price, BEFORE leaving. NO wishful thinking about any missing items that might appear later, and no reneging on the bill. For me, if she doesn't deliver everything agreed to, OK, her decision, I pay the full price, I just NEVER repeat. For those who do deliver... added to the pitching rotation. For the few where I've decided to go pot luck, I still have an agreed to price BEFORE leaving which IS paid.
Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.
HorseTrader
11-21-23, 14:54
In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.In bars where I know mama, I tend to have mama prescreen girls for me and then I give her a decent tip, last time 200 baht plus a drink. Last week I returned to TLOS for the first time in 7 months and my favorite mama spotted me outside a bar where I've never seen her before. Mama welcomes me with the sweetest words ever "I already have one for you". She brings me to the girl, who is exactly my type, and makes the introduction. Upon my approval, mama confirms all my terms, bar fine is paid, and we are off for the best session ever. Next time I see that mama I'll remind her of the girl she recommended and give her an extra tip.
I know most punters think mamasans are all worthless pains in the ass, but they know their girls and they can match you appropriately, but you must tip them and get to know them. Unfortunately, I only know 2 Nana Plaza mamas well enough to trust their pre screening. Of course, this method won't work for Cheap Charlie.
EverythingThai
11-21-23, 15:09
Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.Come down to Pattaya and visit Maggie Mays, Club fate, or Catalpas. This shit goes on all the time right at the bar.
Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.I visit BjBars everyday when I am in BKK and my few trips to Pattaya. I have only found one place where this happens. Carre Blanc LE Club (Bang Lamung) I have been sucked off twice in this place in front of huge crowds of mongers and providers, maybe 20+ the first time, less the 2nd time. My wife likes to do shows in front of swing club crowds so it is right down my alley.
The first time I did it, it was a dare with the mamassan. She said that one of her women could deep throat any man. She was sort of talking to everyone. I think she was trying to get the place going. I told her that I had never seen that done successfully on me. (I have a big penis but not that big. It is more the way it is built, really thick at the business end.) Some back and forth, she says to me "you pay only if she is successful". Back and forth teasing. So woman #1 comes over and gives it a try right at the bar, in front of everyone and it is not going to happen but it is fun. Then some other woman comes over out of the crowd and says "let me" and the two women go at it together which I am loving especially in front of a crowd. Sexy. Good bjs but no deepthroat. I am good naturedly teasing the mamassan. "I told you so. " She says something along the lines, "Oh fuck this" and comes out from behind the bar and starts going at it. She came closer but no cigar. LOL It was fun. Guys started disappearing behind curtains so I guess it all worked. I chose the number #1 woman and got a fabulous slow, sexy BJ behind some classy curtains. The place looks like a classy swing club. The only problem is that it is all the way down in Pattaya. I prefer BKK, Sukhothai, Chiang Mai, Hua Hin, Phitsinulok type places. Bjs and culture. LOL. I did volunteer to pay for the three bjs. I am not cheap charlie.
Be nice guys.
11Bravo made a recommendation on a place on a previous page. I am going to try it out next week when I am back in BKK. Will report. Maybe you can try it first?
I could use some recommendations on where to find good Mayonnaise to put on my Baloney Sammich. Maybe Mr 11 B could a fella out. No Kraft Brand please. I want Exotic Hot Mayo.Sorry, no can do; there's not enough mayo in all of Thailand to cover all your balony. But it is a free forum, so have fun.
Shout out to Newton York, last year's intel still helpful, as was she.
Bunky, kudo's on your "Taking Pity on the New Guy" and "Geography Lesson" posts. I don't keep up with the forum much unless I'm BOTG, but tracking some of yours made me smile. No DEROS, just AO change.
AmPervert Private during the afternoons, you have the run of the place yourself. Two words: Rugby Scrum (ring the bell and enjoy).
In bars where I know mama, I tend to have mama prescreen girls for me and then I give her a decent tip, last time 200 baht plus a drink. Last week I returned to TLOS for the first time in 7 months and my favorite mama spotted me outside a bar where I've never seen her before. Mama welcomes me with the sweetest words ever "I already have one for you". She brings me to the girl, who is exactly my type, and makes the introduction. Upon my approval, mama confirms all my terms, bar fine is paid, and we are off for the best session ever. Next time I see that mama I'll remind her of the girl she recommended and give her an extra tip.
I know most punters think mamasans are all worthless pains in the ass, but they know their girls and they can match you appropriately, but you must tip them and get to know them. Unfortunately, I only know 2 Nana Plaza mamas well enough to trust their pre screening. Of course, this method won't work for Cheap Charlie.Unfortunately, not all Mamasans are as well informed, helpful and useful as others. Especially with regard to BBFS+CIP, you might find many if not most who will either recoil in horror at the very idea or shrug and blather a meaningless, "up to the girl. " Yeah. We know. So is everything else. Aren't you supposed to be the one who knows something related to this business about your girls? LOL. Useless for saving time and money zeroing in on the serious players.
However, we still must ask the Mamasans to do something for their pay. And when you find one or two who will bring you a gem who will, not might, will rock your world doing exactly what you were looking for, reward her with at least a tip or drink or both as you described.
Llantarnam
11-21-23, 17:08
Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? In your hotel room?
Let me first say I could not get to her. But I saw her. WOW. Slim girl with super tight body, slim but not skinny, perky smallish tits with no silly, long straight black hair, lips. Lips seemed real although big for a Thai. Damn. Didn't have time to pursue her as she got tangled up in the hands of a couple of guys. Seems she was in the midst of getting her teeth aligned, so teeth were not on display this time.
Examined 100's of candidate girls so far but none of them can match this girl. Wish our schedule matches next time I see her.
If anyone has intel on her, let me know. I don't think CH has more than one of this quality. When you see her, you know it's her.
Raj Patela
11-22-23, 01:24
Mr Nye and Me.
How about we go tag team Nana Schoolgirl and ask if we can get the 2 man East Asian discount. Like the Commander and his PAL.
P.S. We would be with her seperately not at the same time.
Raj Patela
11-22-23, 01:25
Let me first say I could not get to her. But I saw her. WOW. Slim girl with super tight body, slim but not skinny, perky smallish tits with no silly, long straight black hair, lips. Lips seemed real although big for a Thai. Damn. Didn't have time to pursue her as she got tangled up in the hands of a couple of guys. Seems she was in the midst of getting her teeth aligned, so teeth were not on display this time.
Examined 100's of candidate girls so far but none of them can match this girl. Wish our schedule matches next time I see her.
If anyone has intel on her, let me know. I don't think CH has more than one of this quality. When you see her, you know it's her.Do they still have a no INDIANs policy?
Raj Patela
11-22-23, 01:28
Anyone know of any pregnant or lactating providers in BKK? Bucket list thing. I will be there next week.
I am a respectful guy and always nice to my providers. I will meet you at a pool hall if you want to make sure you can recommend me.Avarice Soi 6 Pattaya. I'm pretty sure she is a few months along. Although I could be wrong she could be FAT. Might not be her 1st rodeo as she isn't a YOUNG un.
Going to Bangkok in January. Anyone have experience with outcall Cbody?
Ok, it's about time to do a field report! My recent experiences (good, bad and ugly):
1. I tried an outcall "massage" place for the first time, called Sanae. Easy to find online, and communication via Line was a dream. I picked "Anitta" who arrived promptly at my place and looked exactly like her pictures. Her massage skills were fair and she explained she learned massage from YouTube! Haha. She provided a topless handjob finish (grip a bit too tight but I was able to complete by shooting onto her tits) and total cost, including tip, was 2000 B. Would repeat due to the overall ease of experience.
2. Visited Ruean Thai massage shop on Soi Ari (Suk 26) and was enticed in by a skinny, smiling girl named Aom who made up for her average looks with a good attitude. She delivered good conversation, a decent fully naked massage, some BB sucking and big messy finish with a good HJ. 1700 B. I might see her again to fuck her trimmed and tight-looking pussy.
3. Decided against my better instincts to try a beer bar on Soi 22 called Phoenix. The name should have been a clue. Barfined the only girl worth considering: a cute 24 year old girl name Poppy who, despite agreeing to my specific requests while at the bar, advised me it was "not possible" upon arrival at my room! I took her straight back to the bar where the mamasan refused to assist. It appears the whole bar is run on a scam to extract 600 B barfines with no intent to deliver. Avoid this place.
Best of luck out there!
11Bravo made a recommendation on a place on a previous page. I am going to try it out next week when I am back in BKK. Will report. Maybe you can try it first?I'm happy to help out!
What's the name of the place to try? I looked on the forum but no luck finding the specific post.
Mr Nye and Me.
How about we go tag team Nana Schoolgirl and ask if we can get the 2 man East Asian discount. Like the Commander and his PAL.
P.S. We would be with her seperately not at the same time.Can't do it mate. MiniYezh would hide so deep inside that I would truly be a dickhead.
HorseTrader
11-22-23, 08:02
Unfortunately, not all Mamasans are as well informed, helpful and useful as others. Especially with regard to BBFS+CIP, you might find many if not most who will either recoil in horror at the very idea or shrug and blather a meaningless, "up to the girl. " Yeah. We know.Last week one mama pointed out girls who did BBFS, but mama said "all must finish outside". I've never seen mama recoil in horror, she has heard it all before. The "horror" reaction has been reserved for direct talks with the girls.
I feel better about making arrangements through mama. That way there are 3 people who know the agreement and it cuts down the chances of new rules or safety lectures in the room.
In your hotel room?I was going to say in my condo, he can pick the girl.
Avarice Soi 6 Pattaya. I'm pretty sure she is a few months along. Although I could be wrong she could be FAT. Might not be her 1st rodeo as she isn't a YOUNG un.Damn! I knew I should have left a window open for Pattaya. LOL Thanks Raj Patela. I am tempted to skip Ayuthaya and see a different temple. LOL.
Raj Patela
11-22-23, 16:44
Nana Schoolgirl was Tweaking. She couldn't stand Upright. Her eyes were Glazy. Not sure if she was drooling. Must have been a Crazy Customer.
#96: was looking Exceptional. She was outside so I didn't have to go in. Lollipop s. Of the 3 bars Rainbow 4 n5 and Lolly's she was by far the Hottest. Total of 175 girls.
I deduct. 25 points, she could use a few pounds to achieve Ultimate Hotness Status.
Rainbow 5 pointy nose girl has moved to Rainbow 4. Not bad looks but her Deameanor just Not Good. Let's all wish her well.
Captain Solo
11-22-23, 17:40
Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.
I was in Billboard and Rainbow in Nana Plaza this month. Guys would buy $5 LDs and just sit and talk with bar girls in their broken monkey English. There was no closeness, touching, groping, poking. They were very chaste.
In Tijuana's Hong Kong club, guys buy a $10 LD most times can do DFK, mutual squeezing, groping, grinding in the middle of the club. Girls would rub, grope, grind on guys to get them aroused enough, could not resist, have to pay for sessions in the hotel. Happened to me a few times, got way aroused by hot girls touching even tired after multiple sessions.
I had girls sitting with me in HK's dark secluded spots. We were DFKing, mutually groping under the clothes, I was toying with her clit until she got drenching wet and exploded in an O. A new wingman was shocked and embarrassed of our public display of passion hehe.
Other guys claimed to have had BBBJ, one even BBFS in Chicago Club. I have seen Chicago's hot young girls take out guys' dicks and do BBBJ in the middle of the club. I had my fingers up hot girls' wet and warm pussies many times in Chicago Club.
Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.And for many of the girls, it's not worth it for them to deal with unattractive mongers with arrogant and misogynistic attitudes who think and act like they are high class men instead of just gutter crawling perverts.
Asian_Pimp
11-23-23, 01:25
Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.
I was in Billboard and Rainbow in Nana Plaza this month. Guys would buy $5 LDs and just sit and talk with bar girls in their broken monkey English. There was no closeness, touching, groping, poking. They were very chaste.
In Tijuana's Hong Kong club, guys buy a $10 LD most times can do DFK, mutual squeezing, groping, grinding in the middle of the club. Girls would rub, grope, grind on guys to get them aroused enough, could not resist, have to pay for sessions in the hotel. Happened to me a few times, got way aroused by hot girls touching even tired after multiple sessions.
I had girls sitting with me in HK's dark secluded spots. We were DFKing, mutually groping under the clothes, I was toying with her clit until she got drenching wet and exploded in an O. A new wingman was shocked and embarrassed of our public display of passion hehe.
Other guys claimed to have had BBBJ, one even BBFS in Chicago Club. I have seen Chicago's hot young girls take out guys' dicks and do BBBJ in the middle of the club. I had my fingers up hot girls' wet and warm pussies many times in Chicago Club.I have been to Thermae Girls multiple times. I agree with you that some girls there have attitudes. But have you ever wondered why they would do such a thing when they don't do it to everyone else? They are FREELANCERS. Which means they can refuse anyone. Girls in HK and Chicago are more of an employee than a freelancer. They will fuck you if you pay them. Maybe you are just not accustomed to being turned down even if you pay them and sounds like you should stay away from Thailand altogether and just go to Tijuana.
Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.
I was in Billboard and Rainbow in Nana Plaza this month. Guys would buy $5 LDs and just sit and talk with bar girls in their broken monkey English. There was no closeness, touching, groping, poking. They were very chaste.
In Tijuana's Hong Kong club, guys buy a $10 LD most times can do DFK, mutual squeezing, groping, grinding in the middle of the club. Girls would rub, grope, grind on guys to get them aroused enough, could not resist, have to pay for sessions in the hotel. Happened to me a few times, got way aroused by hot girls touching even tired after multiple sessions.
I had girls sitting with me in HK's dark secluded spots. We were DFKing, mutually groping under the clothes, I was toying with her clit until she got drenching wet and exploded in an O. A new wingman was shocked and embarrassed of our public display of passion hehe.
Other guys claimed to have had BBBJ, one even BBFS in Chicago Club. I have seen Chicago's hot young girls take out guys' dicks and do BBBJ in the middle of the club. I had my fingers up hot girls' wet and warm pussies many times in Chicago Club.Yeah, the entire scene is so different than it was when a first moved to Bangkok about a quarter of a century ago. Thermae was very interactive then and you would walk around the place and gals would grab your unit and be extra flirtatious and interactive. Same was true of the bars. I remember my first night in Bangkok sitting in long gun and within 10 minutes I was locked in a DFK and heavy petting session. I believe the change in the girls behavior went hand in hand with the change of punter demographics. Our East Asian brethren prefer girls to be not as aggressive and really shun public displays of affection unless it is in a bar specific for that task. I've not been impressed with Themae in well over a decade. Back in the early 00's I would pull two to three times a week from the place. Never discussed price, it was always 1 K, and sometimes didn't even get the girl's name till the deed was done. Another fun fact is the gals all talked about the regular punters so many times you take a gal and even though you hadn't been with her before she would know what you were into. Good times.
Captain Solo
11-23-23, 02:46
I found most Thermea women below average in looks and manners, but was never turned down by them. If anyone turns me down I just move on to the next ones. Always had good sexy times with a few nice, pretty ones.
I saw a bunch of them talk rough with nasty, disgusted expressions when a couple Western guys, may be Euro or Americano, walked into the place separately. They may have known those guys in the past, but nice people would never show ugly expressions like those in public without cause. I found ugly expressions only with Thermae women. Girls in bars, on streets, on line, escorts ect have all been very nice and sweet, except a few transsexuals.
Bar girls in Tijuana are not employees but are independent contractors. They do what they please. They do turn down lots of guys for drinks or sex by age, looks, dress, manners ect. They can call security over to throw out or ban guys who cop free feels, or act rude to them. Happened to my wingman and many guys. A regular client I know has the bad habit of bullshitting girls about his infatuation and love for them. A woman got pissed off with his bullshit, claimed he abused her and had the guy banned from the club.
HK knows the girls are the main attractions that bring in clients. They treat the girls very well as their main assets with flexible work rules and relaxed work atmosphere.
I had good sexy times in both Tijuana and Bangkok.
...Thermae...independent contractors. Some form of Empowerment. We should encourage this. I stay out of the clubs that seem as though they have farm girls who have been sold a bright, shining city bill of goods or are somehow in debt.
I like the women that control what they are doing. Their bodies, their choice even if you don't like that choice!
...Happened to my wingman and many guys. A regular client I know has the bad habit....
You need to dump some wingmen. lol
Banana Boi
11-23-23, 21:01
And for many of the girls, it's not worth it for them to deal with unattractive mongers with arrogant and misogynistic attitudes who think and act like they are high class men instead of just gutter crawling perverts.Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.
Newton York
11-24-23, 00:18
On this day of thanksgiving I'd like to share what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for Thailand! It's about the power dynamics. That's what it's all about ain't it folks? More often than not, I feel like I'm being stamped down, walked all over and just barely getting by. You look at your 401 k, your IRA, paying your shitty mortgage, up to your neck in medical bills, looking back at your miserable life, and you think to yourself, God. Life sucks. But then you go to Thailand, and you realize the chicks you're banging have way more terrible lives than you do. Much more than you could even begin to conceive, cause think about it. Would they really be banging your ugly mug if they had the cash not to? What kind of world exists where opportunities are so lacking, and situations are such that they have to resort to sex to pay the bills? As shitty as my life is, that's why I love Thailand so much, cause when I'm there, I can be reminded of how much worse other people have it. Hence, it's all about the power dynamics. We get pushed around at work, we have to suck up to management, etc. But when we be in Thailand, we hold the cards. Even in Europe, some of the chicks doing this for a living, are better than most of us financially, believe you me. But in Thailand, odds are pretty high, 9 out of 10 chicks there you pay for sex are way worse off than joe average flying in from the states, I'm just saying. We don't want to admit it fellas, but it's a form of poverty tourism. Us throwing our weight around, and for some folks from north America, quite literally fat ass dudes throwing their weight around, hah! The kind of mindset where you're there to gawp at the poor brown people, but be all up in their culture and stuff, but really it's all about just lording it over them. That's why I'm saying fellas. Don't waste your lives. Go to South East Asia. I'm not quite there yet financially, but by God, when I can, believe you me, I will.
How many wars are happening right now? There's so much uncertainty in the world. And here I am counting the days until I can retire near to Thailand. Why can't I risk it all and do it now or soon, I just don't know. Decades and decades of being brainwashed into thinking you need x amount of cash just to get by, when what if, maybe, just maybe you can get by on less? Then again, you don't want to end up like some of them white dudes homeless on the streets of Pattaya. Reports were coming in about them some 10 plus years ago, odds are most of them are dead by now, but then again, there's not many places better than Thailand to die in. I'm thankful for Bangkok! The city that exists for one reason, and one reason only.
Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.Dude my entire schtick is totally happy old man. I have had girls grab me and say "you are happy man". After money, they want happy.
Happy and fun beats looks and arrogance.
On this day of thanksgiving I'd like to share what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for Thailand! It's about the power dynamics. That's what it's all about ain't it folks? More often than not, I feel like I'm being stamped down, walked all over and just barely getting by. You look at your 401 k, your IRA, paying your shitty mortgage, up to your neck in medical bills, looking back at your miserable life, and you think to yourself, God. Life sucks. But then you go to Thailand, and you realize the chicks you're banging have way more terrible lives than you do. Much more than you could even begin to conceive, cause think about it. Would they really be banging your ugly mug if they had the cash not to? What kind of world exists where opportunities are so lacking, and situations are such that they have to resort to sex to pay the bills? As shitty as my life is, that's why I love Thailand so much, cause when I'm there, I can be reminded of how much worse other people have it. Hence, it's all about the power dynamics. We get pushed around at work, we have to suck up to management, etc. But when we be in Thailand, we hold the cards. Even in Europe, some of the chicks doing this for a living, are better than most of us financially, believe you me. But in Thailand, odds are pretty high, 9 out of 10 chicks there you pay for sex are way worse off than joe average flying in from the states, I'm just saying. We don't want to admit it fellas, but it's a form of poverty tourism. Us throwing our weight around, and for some folks from north America, quite literally fat ass dudes throwing their weight around, hah! The kind of mindset where you're there to gawp at the poor brown people, but be all up in their culture and stuff, but really it's all about just lording it over them. That's why I'm saying fellas. Don't waste your lives. Go to South East Asia. I'm not quite there yet financially, but by God, when I can, believe you me, I will.
How many wars are happening right now? There's so much uncertainty in the world. And here I am counting the days until I can retire near to Thailand. Why can't I risk it all and do it now or soon, I just don't know. Decades and decades of being brainwashed into thinking you need x amount of cash just to get by, when what if, maybe, just maybe you can get by on less? Then again, you don't want to end up like some of them white dudes homeless on the streets of Pattaya. Reports were coming in about them some 10 plus years ago, odds are most of them are dead by now, but then again, there's not many places better than Thailand to die in. I'm thankful for Bangkok! The city that exists for one reason, and one reason only.Do you feel better now that you have let it all out?
EverythingThai
11-24-23, 03:27
Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.I am as far as you can get from being Asian and whenever I go to Thermae, I never have any issues. Guys go in there with a preconceived idea and that's the experience they end up with. Laws of attraction right? Ya some of the girls prefer Asian guys. So what? Why do they though? I will tell you why. Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it. Not drama. Western guys just go in and talk talk talk talk and drama and conditions and so the girls get bored with having to exercise all that effort.
Raj Patela
11-24-23, 04:15
I am as far as you can get from being Asian and whenever I go to Thermae, I never have any issues. Guys go in there with a preconceived idea and that's the experience they end up with. Laws of attraction right? Ya some of the girls prefer Asian guys. So what? Why do they though? I will tell you why. Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it. Not drama. Western guys just go in and talk talk talk talk and drama and conditions and so the girls get bored with having to exercise all that effort.Last night I saw Nana School berating an old Farang. I think he wanted too much for too little money.
I was in Horror just seeing a potential customer with her. Maybe my Hype ING her did some Good.
I am as far as you can get from being Asian and whenever I go to Thermae, I never have any issues. Guys go in there with a preconceived idea and that's the experience they end up with. Laws of attraction right? Ya some of the girls prefer Asian guys. So what? Why do they though? I will tell you why. Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it. Not drama. Western guys just go in and talk talk talk talk and drama and conditions and so the girls get bored with having to exercise all that effort.I too have never had any negative experiences with Thermae girls or escorts / freelancers in general in Bangkok. I am white, European, over 50, balding and slightly (in my dreams) overweight. I find just a bit of common courtesy, decency and respect goes a long way. Girls suss you out quickly and I find while a lot can be a bit wary at first, we generally end up having a good laugh and chat at the end and they are more than happy to give me their line number for any future 'business' I'd like to give them.
However, serious question, do you guys which more experience (long term local knowledge) think a lot of this 'anti Farang' thing comes from a simple case of the language barrier, in that it's easier a lot of the time for local girls to deal with Asian guys? Or am I simplifying the issue too much?
I don't know why but when I first visited Thailand I mistakenly thought most young Thai's in particular (say under 25 or 30) would have a better standard of English, on reflection I don't know why I assumed that and it's down to my own ignorance. But I still find myself going up to people in restaurants, shops (bars, and clubs) and break into English assuming they'll understand me without even realising I am doing it. Also I find many girls with a basic grasp of English want to communicate but a lot gets lost in translation which can make things awkward and it's so important that we 'Farangs' cop onto that and manage the situation carefully to respect the girls and make sure they always feel comfortable around us. Not forgetting to respect their cultural values.
I know English isn't everyone's first language on this forum, I am just using it as an example.
Do they still have a no INDIANs policy?Don't know. I was busy checking out girls, not guys. But but of the few I saw I didn't register anything but caucasians and maybe a couple of SE asians.
HorseTrader
11-24-23, 07:54
Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it.I occasionally read that Asian guys don't complain, but I find that hard to believe. About 2 weeks ago I was sitting in Thermae with an Asian friend (I'm farang) while he was scrolling through online options because he was not satisfied with the current lineup at Thermae. His number 1 concern was girl appearance but he also talked about price and service. Seems same as farang to me. Perhaps someone can explain how various posters know that Asian guys don't complain.
On this day of thanksgiving I'd like to share what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for Thailand! And here I am counting the days until I can retire near to Thailand. Why can't I risk it all and do it now or soon, I just don't know. Decades and decades of being brainwashed into thinking you need x amount of cash just to get by, when what if, maybe, just maybe you can get by on less? .Oh, Captain! My Captain! LOL Although I like the food and foot massages too. The mini-split ACs are swell too, much better than crappy American hotel ACs.
I too have never had any negative experiences with Thermae girls or escorts / freelancers in general in Bangkok. I am white, European, over 50, balding and slightly (in my dreams) overweight. I find just a bit of common courtesy, decency and respect goes a long way. Girls suss you out quickly and I find while a lot can be a bit wary at first, we generally end up having a good laugh and chat at the end and they are more than happy to give me their line number for any future 'business' I'd like to give them.
However, serious question, do you guys which more experience (long term local knowledge) think a lot of this 'anti Farang' thing comes from a simple case of the language barrier, in that it's easier a lot of the time for local girls to deal with Asian guys? Or am I simplifying the issue too much?
I don't know why but when I first visited Thailand I mistakenly thought most young Thai's in particular (say under 25 or 30) would have a better standard of English, on reflection I don't know why I assumed that and it's down to my own ignorance. But I still find myself going up to people in restaurants, shops (bars, and clubs) and break into English assuming they'll understand me without even realising I am doing it. Also I find many girls with a basic grasp of English want to communicate but a lot gets lost in translation which can make things awkward and it's so important that we 'Farangs' cop onto that and manage the situation carefully to respect the girls and make sure they always feel comfortable around us. Not forgetting to respect their cultural values.
I know English isn't everyone's first language on this forum, I am just using it as an example.I am 70, Caucasian, in fairly good shape, thinning hair but it is still mostly there, speak passable basic Thai and have never gotten a vibe that I could not walk out with any but perhaps the top 5 Asian-Only FLs in Thermae for the going rate at any time. When I approach a cluster of lookers with a smile I get smiles back in response and it is the rare FL in there who does not appear open for take-out discussion.
If BBFS+CIP were not the critical factor in my either having sex or not, Thermae would be an easy go-to venue for a 2,500 - 3,000 baht no brainer P4 P option for me. Well, DFK is going to be a significant if not critical factor too, followed by BBBJ as foreplay. BBBJ+CIM might be an OK alternative for me with the NO to BBFS+CIP girls. But good luck finding a competent version of that among those lazy Thermae P4 P partime hobbiests.
Unfortunately, BBFS+CIP is the critical factor for me. Furthermore, my days of getting the 10 minute Safety First / No Condom No Sex lecture or launching into a fresh new back and forth negotiation for more money with my dick in my hand at the moment of (no) penetraton are over. Therefore, I generally but not 100% of the time clear and settle that critical issue before I take a girl. That is where the smiles, cheerfulness and excitement in the girl about me choosing to take her usually drops like a rock and she bails on the idea. No biggie for me. Whatever. I'll get another attractive girl who will say Yes, no problem. In fact, I often had a half dozen as attractive if not more attractive girls waiting for me to give them the green light to come over to my apartment on any night I stopped in Thermae anyway.
I have no idea why some FLs in Thermae are Asian-Only providers. I seriously doubt it is based on some studied market research and business logic as in this type pays more, that type never complains, this type has smaller equipment, that type is more or less fun and all that. Since when has any decision by a Thai girl been based on studied research and logic? No, my guess is it is simply because the Asian look and demeanor is familiar and more comfortable for them and a Farang encounter is unknown. They only go with Asians because they have only gone with Asians.
I occasionally read that Asian guys don't complain, but I find that hard to believe. About 2 weeks ago I was sitting in Thermae with an Asian friend (I'm farang) while he was scrolling through online options because he was not satisfied with the current lineup at Thermae. His number 1 concern was girl appearance but he also talked about price and service. Seems same as farang to me. Perhaps someone can explain how various posters know that Asian guys don't complain.Meaning they don't complain in the room as much as Western dudes and are likely to accept the service offered and not make a fuss if it's not up to snuff and just move on. They are very picky about looks.
Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too."Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too. ".
Excellent post Banana Boi.
Raj Patela
11-24-23, 14:35
Show me an establishment where majority of girls have Good attitudes I'll show you where to get HOT 1,000 baht girls.
...What kind of world exists where opportunities are so lacking, and situations are such that they have to resort to sex to pay the bills?...I can be reminded of how much worse other people have it. Hence, it's all about the power dynamics.....but really it's all about just lording it over them...."resort to sex?" "lording it over them?" Yes, we are lucky that we were born in the richest country in the world but it was just luck. What a disrespectful attitude towards women who are providing you with just a small amount of happiness on this planet. I hope if you move to Thailand, you get a better attitude. Life is good. You are very lucky to have a life where you can travel to SE Asia. Don't make it a bad thing for the people in SE Asia who run across you. Smile, be respectful. Be happy and try to spread your happiness to others please. If you enjoy it in BKK (and travel to Siem Reap), you are halfway there man. Look on the bright side. It is brighter. LOL.
I'm thankful for Bangkok! The city that exists for one reason, and one reason only. As someone mentioned already when you posted this before, Bangkok existed long before any monger found it. There are millions of people working really hard in BKK and they have nothing to do with us or the pleasure industry.
Think of saying that NYC exists just for it's sex industry. In the 80's, sex was truly everywhere in NYC. Paid sex is still easy to find in NYC but is that the reason NYC exists?
Banana Boi
11-24-23, 15:39
Meaning they don't complain in the room as much as Western dudes and are likely to accept the service offered and not make a fuss if it's not up to snuff and just move on. They are very picky about looks.Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! For most Asians, you have to have a certain look. If you don't have it you ain't getting a second look no matter how cheap you are.
By Asian I'm sure you mean Korean and Japanese and not an American Asian. There is a huge difference. Just like Thailand, Japanese and Korean are taught not to speak out. This is very frowned upon and you are looked down upon for complaining. In the Western world, complaining and bitching about everything under the sun is a way of life. Negativity is the norm. Asians aren't happy about getting crap service just like a Farang. However, they will take the loss and go quickly to the next girl rather than let it ruin their night that they have spent 2500 baht screwing a girl they could NEVER get in real life!
One common mistake for guys in Thermae is when they see a girl back into Thermae after 10 minutes. I hear stuff like oh the Japanese guy came in 3 minutes so the girl is back. Absolutely wrong. The Japanese guy kicked the girl out of his room in 3 minutes or less!
Raj Patela
11-25-23, 01:11
Flags flags flags. Ok only 1 I saw.
I quickly thought it would be Chinese but is was a tour group of old what looked like Scsndies. Minimum age 65 or so.
The Plaza was Heaving with Humanity.
As I walked by you know who I saw she had her dinner with her. As I left the Plaza an 1. 5 hour later she had the same bowl. Leads me to think she didn't move the whole time. Hahaha.
Can any of you stand in the same place for that long.
Raj Patela
11-25-23, 04:06
Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! For most Asians, you have to have a certain look. If you don't have it you ain't getting a second look no matter how cheap you are.
By Asian I'm sure you mean Korean and Japanese and not an American Asian. There is a huge difference. Just like Thailand, Japanese and Korean are taught not to speak out. This is very frowned upon and you are looked down upon for complaining. In the Western world, complaining and bitching about everything under the sun is a way of life. Negativity is the norm. Asians aren't happy about getting crap service just like a Farang. However, they will take the loss and go quickly to the next girl rather than let it ruin their night that they have spent 2500 baht screwing a girl they could NEVER get in real life!
One common mistake for guys in Thermae is when they see a girl back into Thermae after 10 minutes. I hear stuff like oh the Japanese guy came in 3 minutes so the girl is back. Absolutely wrong. The Japanese guy kicked the girl out of his room in 3 minutes or less!Last night I saw a Farang feeling up an Ugly Rainbow 5 girl. No Asian would touch her with a 10 foot Pole.
BeachDrone
11-25-23, 04:44
Found a mention of a BJ Bar on Sukhumvit Soi Ari (26) called Madame Claude, billing itself as a "premium BJ bar. " It is said to have reopened this year, and it supposedly has the atmosphere of a 1960's brothel. I have no clue what that is, but the photos look interesting. Any information on this place?I went to Madame Claude to see what it is all about. Listed as a BJ Bar, it is more pricey than most of the other BJ bars. And, they have a new menu that has a "massage with sex" option. I prefer older ladies becasue I am older and do not really relate well to the 20-something girls. At the front desk, I was asked to pick a lady from the pictures, asked which was the oldest, and chose her. Then I was asked which "package" I wanted, and chose the massage with sex. I was told that the lady I selected did not massage and another lady, Hana. Hana could easily pass for 22-24 years old, and when she told me she was 42, I was surprised. She is small, with large B breasts and a nice Bush (I love a Bush).
Showered together, then to the bed for what was a pretty good massage was a VERY good. On the flip, she massages legs, works her way up, gets me slightly excuted, then starts a phenomenal BBBJ. OMG. I have never had a BJ so good. Then I returned the favor and went down on her for a long time (I love that, too, especially when the Bush tickles my nose as I'm licking away), the cover went on and we fucked every position. As with so many pros, she really gets into sex. Then we showered together again. It was a very good time, and I tipped her well.
Two good sessions in two days, one Sakuri-Akasuri and one at Madame Claude. Now I'm off to Chiang Mai.
Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! For most Asians, you have to have a certain look. If you don't have it you ain't getting a second look no matter how cheap you are.
By Asian I'm sure you mean Korean and Japanese and not an American Asian. There is a huge difference. Just like Thailand, Japanese and Korean are taught not to speak out. This is very frowned upon and you are looked down upon for complaining. In the Western world, complaining and bitching about everything under the sun is a way of life. Negativity is the norm. Asians aren't happy about getting crap service just like a Farang. However, they will take the loss and go quickly to the next girl rather than let it ruin their night that they have spent 2500 baht screwing a girl they could NEVER get in real life!
One common mistake for guys in Thermae is when they see a girl back into Thermae after 10 minutes. I hear stuff like oh the Japanese guy came in 3 minutes so the girl is back. Absolutely wrong. The Japanese guy kicked the girl out of his room in 3 minutes or less!Well it depends, some of us are quite discriminating when it comes to looks. Unfortunately there is an inverse relationship between looks and performance for the most part. And yes I'm not referring to Asians who come from North America or Europe. I started going to Thermae towards the end of 1999. I can honestly say it was one of the most fun places on the planet. It was a party every single night, it's stayed open till 6:00 am, and people would pour in after the bars closed. They were gals dancing by the jukebox and if you walked around you were guaranteed to get your unit grabbed many times. Girls were aggressive, naughty, and fun, not the wallflowers you see in there today. But again the customers were very different at that time. The Japanese didn't start coming there until around 2002 and then really started coming on mass after the coffee shop at the Siam City hotel was closed. It was the Asian equivalent of Thermae and we used to venture there occasionally as the food was quite good. Prices were always higher there by about 500 Baht on average. And it didn't have the same festive atmosphere Thermae had. And when it closed and they started coming to Thermae they were mainly in the back section and that's where the gals that were exclusive to them hung out. Even as early as 2002 there were gals that would not go with farang guys.
And when I mentioned demographics, there are many and various demographics in play now in the Thailand P4 P scene so I'm not just referring to Japanese and Koreans.
The past few times I've been in Thermae I've been less than impressed overall and I can say the same about go go bars, especially at the insane price they're asking. Fiwfans works mighty well for me and I can avoid lower Sukhumvit which I just don't find that appealing these days.
It's not out Canada and those of us who live here have a completely different agenda than those visiting. The Zone, for the most part, doesn't serve our purposes very well.
Real life? It's all real life. We're just making a cleaner transaction.
I went to Madame Claude to see what it is all about.It's become my pick of the blowjob places in Bangkok. A bit pricier than most but the rooms are very clean, the sofa beds are comfy and service has been uniformly good. I didn't know they offered full service and frankly haven't seen anybody there I'd want to do it with, but it's nice to know the option exists.
I went to Madame Claude to see what it is all about. Listed as a BJ Bar, it is more pricey than most of the other BJ bars. And, they have a new menu that has a "massage with sex" option. I prefer older ladies becasue I am older and do not really relate well to the 20-something girls. At the front desk, I was asked to pick a lady from the pictures, asked which was the oldest, and chose her. Then I was asked which "package" I wanted, and chose the massage with sex. I was told that the lady I selected did not massage and another lady, Hana. Hana could easily pass for 22-24 years old, and when she told me she was 42, I was surprised. She is small, with large B breasts and a nice Bush (I love a Bush).
Showered together, then to the bed for what was a pretty good massage was a VERY good. On the flip, she massages legs, works her way up, gets me slightly excuted, then starts a phenomenal BBBJ. OMG. I have never had a BJ so good. Then I returned the favor and went down on her for a long time (I love that, too, especially when the Bush tickles my nose as I'm licking away), the cover went on and we fucked every position. As with so many pros, she really gets into sex. Then we showered together again. It was a very good time, and I tipped her well.
Two good sessions in two days, one Sakuri-Akasuri and one at Madame Claude. Now I'm off to Chiang Mai.My experience in Madame Claude wasn't so positive. Theécor is great for sure, it's a pity more oilies can't spruce themselves up more but anyhow. The girls are true to the photos on the web or those they will send you if you connect on Line.
I visited almost straight after I arrived from the airport on a recent trip and picked a straight BJ, I thought a quick blowie would set the week of nicely and that if I went for a longer massage / FS it would be a waste as I'd probably shoot my load too quickly after my period of absence!
Well 40 full minutes later, I had to tell the poor girl to give up, that it didn't matter. I made her feel better by saying I must be jet-lagged etc. The truth was she was inexperienced, young, her technique wasn't great and frankly it got boring after 10 minutes. She kept me pushed down a low chair / sofa and wouldn't move her position or change her own style throughout.
She wore a sexy red dress but never removed it, she remained fully clothed throughout. Also when she got me naked, she made me go into another little room down the corridor (in full view of other potential clients) where she proceeded to wash my todger in the smallest of little sinks! I've seen this obviously in other places, but based on the decor / prices I would have expected better to be honest.
Low and behold also, I visited another place shortly afterwards and the girl had me shot within I'd say 10 minutes simply because she had a much better technique, I couldn't hold myself.
Based on my own experience, I'd recommend 7-heaven more than Madame Claudes.
Captain Solo
11-25-23, 20:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1XFyvsSEI
She became an international celebrity with her 4 K videos, 330 K followers and millions views in Youtube, showing her shopping ingredients, kneading dough at night in her tiny and bare apartment, pushing a heavy food cart a long distance on her motor bike, cleaning the stand, selling roti all night for 25 to 75 Bahts each, then cleaning up and pushing the cart back to storage in an alley late at night. She stands out among tens of thousands street vendors in Bangkok. No other street vendors vloggers achieved the same level of attention like her.
People all over the world sympathize with her hard-working life, come from far countries, seek her out at her food stand on a small street. Videos vloggers gave her 50 K-baht tip, an Apple 14 iphone ect.
Her videos show her travelling by train home, probably in Isaan, to visit her 2 sons, sisters and her parents, never mentioned her husband or BF. Viewers would easily assume she is a country girl, seduced, impregnated then dumped and left to work hard the rest of her life to raise her bastard children, like many young girls in many under-developed countries with no family protection laws who turn to prostitution to survive. Instead of making money the easy in prostitution with her good looks and charming manners, she selects the moral, hard working life. Viewers admire her for her morals and courage.
She achieves international appreciation for the life of hard working people of Thailand. But how much of her stories are real and not staged or promoted by Vloggers for a pro actress? She sure can push the food cart a long way on streets on her motor bike without crashing into traffic. For an alleged country women, her attires are fashionable, attractive and even sexy. She definitely has helps in make up and costumes. She sure show a lot of skin on the street than average women. I did not see any street vendors in Bangkok dressing nice and sexy like her, only high-class ladies in fancy venues. But she also shops in markets in those dresses, so they do not appear out of the ordinary. Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.
China had videos about country life with beautiful models and actresses in nice, snazzy city clothing, obviously fakes, elaborately staged by the central government with economic and political aims. I saw first hand how hard tens thousands food vendors work on the streets of Bangkok, including many beautiful young girls sweating over hot stoves with ready sweet smiles. Did not look like they are being controlled, extorted or taxed by organized crime. They store their carts away every night in many alleys scattered out in the city without evidences of vandalism or theft. Without this security, millions other single moms in other countries have even harder life and worse indignity.
As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.
Raj Patela
11-26-23, 01:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1XFyvsSEI
She became an international celebrity with her 4 K videos, 330 K followers and millions views in Youtube, showing her shopping ingredients, kneading dough at night in her tiny and bare apartment, pushing a heavy food cart a long distance on her motor bike, cleaning the stand, selling roti all night for 25 to 75 Bahts each, then cleaning up and pushing the cart back to storage in an alley late at night. She stands out among tens of thousands street vendors in Bangkok. No other street vendors vloggers achieved the same level of attention like her.
People all over the world sympathize with her hard-working life, come from far countries, seek her out at her food stand on a small street. Videos vloggers gave her 50 K-baht tip, an Apple 14 iphone ect.
Her videos show her travelling by train home, probably in Isaan, to visit her 2 sons, sisters and her parents, never mentioned her husband or BF. Viewers would easily assume she is a country girl, seduced, impregnated then dumped and left to work hard the rest of her life to raise her bastard children, like many young girls in many under-developed countries with no family protection laws who turn to prostitution to survive. Instead of making money the easy in prostitution with her good looks and charming manners, she selects the moral, hard working life. Viewers admire her for her morals and courage.
She achieves international appreciation for the life of hard working people of Thailand. But how much of her stories are real and not staged or promoted by Vloggers for a pro actress? She sure can push the food cart a long way on streets on her motor bike without crashing into traffic. For an alleged country women, her attires are fashionable, attractive and even sexy. She definitely has helps in make up and costumes. She sure show a lot of skin on the street than average women. I did not see any street vendors in Bangkok dressing nice and sexy like her, only high-class ladies in fancy venues. But she also shops in markets in those dresses, so they do not appear out of the ordinary. Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.
China had videos about country life with beautiful models and actresses in nice, snazzy city clothing, obviously fakes, elaborately staged by the central government with economic and political aims. I saw first hand how hard tens thousands food vendors work on the streets of Bangkok, including many beautiful young girls sweating over hot stoves with ready sweet smiles. Did not look like they are being controlled, extorted or taxed by organized crime. They store their carts away every night in many alleys scattered out in the city without evidences of vandalism or theft. Without this security, millions other single moms in other countries have even harder life and worse indignity.
As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.She has Handlers. I always wonder how much she is making. Agent s in Thailand are Ruthless.
I don't Hate Her.
Kneading dough on the Floor is Insane.
Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.
Imagine how places like Angeles, Thailand, Philippines, etc etc would be if no Asians were allowed. Be a whole different mongering world.
NI.
HornyForker
11-26-23, 05:12
Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.
As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.I believe her husband is the person behind the lens behind the scenes. You see him in her IG account and there are pictures of them pre-fame.
I'm also impressed with her work ethic and skill in making those banana cakes. I subscribe to her YT channel.
HornyForker
11-26-23, 09:09
I'll be staying with family near Siam Paragon and I am just curious if there is any action nearby? Would be convenient to accidentally walk into a massage place with FS if it is close by. Otherwise I just plan on taking a cab to nearby RLDs to experience some s3 xual pleasure.
Banana Boi
11-26-23, 11:51
But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.You hang out with some very insecure Asian friends. I don't know a single Asian who goes with a hooker for the purpose of rebuilding their ego.
Puy Roti Lady. Bangkok Street Food Vendor
As for Puy Roti I always wanted to go visit her just to see what the fuss is all about in person. There are much prettier street vendors than her. There were a couple in Jodd Fair last time I was there who imo look better than Puy. Maybe I'll change my mind when I meet her in person.
Expat American
11-26-23, 15:46
But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.
Imagine how places like Angeles, Thailand, Philippines, etc etc would be if no Asians were allowed. Be a whole different mongering world.
NI.Uhm, have you noticed that PI (which is a country that includes Angeles) and Thailand are actually in ASIA? So without Asians those places would essentially be empty jungles. Seriously, open a map or something!
Raj Patela
11-27-23, 01:16
Rainbow 4 Superstar is back.
Now about us as being Tom Cruise Hansum. Hahaha.
I'm not sold yet.
Her Beau was an old Asian,. She was having the time of her Life- never seen her so Happy.
He was what I'd call Unattractive think Nana Schoolgirl level.
Newton York
11-27-23, 02:04
Oh, Captain! My Captain! LOL Although I like the food and foot massages too. The mini-split ACs are swell too, much better than crappy American hotel ACs.
Exactly! Asian countries have been using split unit AC's for decades now, while in the states, it's always freaking lousy window unit AC's, what's up with that nonsense? Everything is crap here, while it's paradise in Asia. I just don't have any luck dudes. When I was stuck in south east Asia decades ago, it was a living hell, and now I actually want to go back and live back in Asia and I'm stuck in the states instead. Jesus h christ. Go figure. Maybe I should never have left. I mean, back in those days for me it wasn't Thailand, but still close enough. Bangkok is it fellas. That's THE place. Heaven on earth if you ask me. Imagine a place existing for one reason, and one reason only. The sexual gratification of old 'Danny Devito' looking geezers like us. Ain't it awesome?
Now it's just figuring out how to get back there. Yeah sure, food, culture, excellent cheap healthcare, bla dee bla freakin dah. Fine, whatever. But non ya fellas would be steppin foot on Thai soil if it weren't for the chicks. At least I'm honest enough to admit it. You're all steppin out on your significant others anyway, at least I'm perpetually single and not cheating on anyone. Man, I tell ya fellas, I knew some guys back here who were bitching and moaning all the live long day about not getting laid and I would tell them time and time again to just please go to Asia. Especially Thailand. You'd have to beat chciks away with a stick. You could look like American thespian Danny Devito and they'd still want you. But these idiots wouldn't listen and end up with some middle aged russian chick with kids already, and they fool themselves into thinking that's all they deserve. I mean, that's what Asia is for fellas. It's what we deserve, we work hard for Asia. It's basically created for us. You don't waste hundreds of years of colonialism and a world with a clearly pro-western bent, by sticking around in places where you're just getting by. You go to places where you're worshipped like a god. Or at the very least like a king.
Why just be some schlub in the middle of nowhere Minnesota, when you can be king in Pattaya? What's wrong with everyone? Can't you see? Can't you guys see how great it is for a certain subset of men in this world? Do I have to spell it out? You think it was just during the times portrayed in Mad Men? It still is very much like that now, as it was, as it has been for centuries. We're all Don Drapers when in Asia, even if you look as awful as italian american acting legend Danny Devito. And just why are dudes from that boot shaped country so short anyway? I tell ya, some of those guys from staten island could do with a reality check, they take themselves waaaaay too seriously. I worked with one guy from there for a few years, the guy thought he was god's gift to women, and guess what kind of chick he ended up with in the end? Guess. Just guess. Come on. Guess. That's right. Asian! Asian chicks have incredibly, incredibly, low standards. As long as you're white, they see it as a step up the social ladder, be it here in the states or in Asia. You got to take advantage of that.
Most of you young people won't remember the 2002 movie Auto Focus about Bob Crane, legendary sex pervert. Watch that movie and you'll see. "A day without sex is a day wasted. " Bob Crane fucked his way through life and died a happy, fulfilled man. Murdered, sure. But a happy man nonetheless. Look at David Carradine! Guy died doing some weird sex thing to himself in a Bangkok hotel room. What a way to go. We all wish we could go like that. I doubt he was alone, the chick with him probably left while he was choking himself. But that's how you want to go, having a huge heart attack while fucking a hot babe. Me? The best I can hope for is that I die in a ditch somewhere. But imagine if it's a Thai ditch! How wonderful would that be? Because Thailand is paradise, even it's ditches are awesome.
God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.
Newton York
11-27-23, 02:21
I think we need to reframe the conversation less about what kind of chicks Asians or white guys want, and more about what kind of guys the Thai chicks want. The reality is that Asian chicks have very low standards when it comes to men. You only need to be one thing. White. That's it. If you're Asian of any kind, be it East or from the sub continent, then you'd better be good looking, or rich or have a 12 inch dick, cause even the ugliest asian chick won't even look at you. Doesn't matter if she's a Thai model, a Filipina domestic helper working in Hong Kong, or some washed up middle aged stewardess from Indonesia who worked for qatar airways for a few years, they all end up with white guys in the end. And yes, even if you look like American comedy legend Danny freakin Devito. Why don't they go with more white guys in Thermae you ask? DUH! Because there's less white guys there. Jeezes H mother effin christ. You'd think we'd all need phds to figure this out. I did a pretty thorough scouting of Thaniya in my time, and the main reason they go with Japanese dudes there is again, cause white guys aren't there, maybe most of them are too chicken shit scared or something, I sure wasn't. 9 out of 10 times, Asian chicks will go with a white guy, and the one time they don't is cause they're shit out of luck. So stop complaining, and use that superpower of being born with white skin. Jesus and mary. God sakes. So, it's not that Asian guys go to rebuild their ego or whatever, although white guys will fuck just about anything with a hole, it's more that the chicks will pick the white guys over anything else.
Newton York
11-27-23, 02:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1XFyvsSEI
She became an international celebrity with her 4 K videos, 330 K followers and millions views in Youtube, showing her shopping ingredients, kneading dough at night in her tiny and bare apartment, pushing a heavy food cart a long distance on her motor bike, cleaning the stand, selling roti all night for 25 to 75 Bahts each, then cleaning up and pushing the cart back to storage in an alley late at night. She stands out among tens of thousands street vendors in Bangkok. No other street vendors vloggers achieved the same level of attention like her.
People all over the world sympathize with her hard-working life, come from far countries, seek her out at her food stand on a small street. Videos vloggers gave her 50 K-baht tip, an Apple 14 iphone ect.
Her videos show her travelling by train home, probably in Isaan, to visit her 2 sons, sisters and her parents, never mentioned her husband or BF. Viewers would easily assume she is a country girl, seduced, impregnated then dumped and left to work hard the rest of her life to raise her bastard children, like many young girls in many under-developed countries with no family protection laws who turn to prostitution to survive. Instead of making money the easy in prostitution with her good looks and charming manners, she selects the moral, hard working life. Viewers admire her for her morals and courage.
She achieves international appreciation for the life of hard working people of Thailand. But how much of her stories are real and not staged or promoted by Vloggers for a pro actress? She sure can push the food cart a long way on streets on her motor bike without crashing into traffic. For an alleged country women, her attires are fashionable, attractive and even sexy. She definitely has helps in make up and costumes. She sure show a lot of skin on the street than average women. I did not see any street vendors in Bangkok dressing nice and sexy like her, only high-class ladies in fancy venues. But she also shops in markets in those dresses, so they do not appear out of the ordinary. Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.
China had videos about country life with beautiful models and actresses in nice, snazzy city clothing, obviously fakes, elaborately staged by the central government with economic and political aims. I saw first hand how hard tens thousands food vendors work on the streets of Bangkok, including many beautiful young girls sweating over hot stoves with ready sweet smiles. Did not look like they are being controlled, extorted or taxed by organized crime. They store their carts away every night in many alleys scattered out in the city without evidences of vandalism or theft. Without this security, millions other single moms in other countries have even harder life and worse indignity.
As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.I don't think she's real either, Thailand is way better than this. Much hotter chicks. And why does she even need to do this? Plenty of white guys will bend over backwards to sponsor her a living. Sugarbaby and all that. Heck, I'll do it. If I had more money! Ha! Although I do agree about the work ethic of Asians, no one on this planet works harder than Asians, and also Mexicans, but in this video, I think it's made up. She can't be real. No one would choose that life, when they could easily have a better one by just walking up to any white guy there. I mean, come on.
There's some famous Thai youtube channels out there of Thai village chicks cooking or whatever in their rural locale, looking sexy while doing Thai things, and if you just do even a teeny tiny bit of research you'll find that they're already with some white guy who bought her a house in said village, and she's making these videos for extra income. Heck, with how many views some of these channels get, they're making more money than most of us already. I tell ya fellas, youtube is the future, but youtube coming out of Thailand? Now that's a guaranteed money maker.
Newton York
11-27-23, 02:35
But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.
Imagine how places like Angeles, Thailand, Philippines, etc etc would be if no Asians were allowed. Be a whole different mongering world.
NI.I don't know about this one, read my post on the reframing of this topic from the point of view of guys, to which guys the chicks actually choose. Guys don't really fuck chicks for ego or anything, it's just about getting off. That's why white dudes will fuck anything with a hole. But again, in the end, the reality is more about what guys the Asian chicks will pick, and I guarantee you, they always pick the white guy.
Newton York
11-27-23, 02:44
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC3EV6Rrp_WOlrXe8xMgOWDg/monthly
According to social blade, she makes anywhere between 60 k to 900 k a year, in USD! See what I mean fellas? That's the power of youtube. And she's only at 300 k subscribers. Not millions of, or tens of millions of, but just 300 k subscribers. That's all you need. A hidden camera, walk around at night filming hot Thai chicks and their possible custom, create a channel called 'Asian Night' or some such, and voila! 30 k subscribers within 5 months, and soon the money will roll in. I've done plenty of research on this dudes, trust me, almost anything coming out of Thailand, or about Thailand, on youtube will generate views. It's inexplicable, but incredible. It's living the dream!
As for Puy Roti I always wanted to go visit her just to see what the fuss is all about in person. There are much prettier street vendors than her. There were a couple in Jodd Fair last time I was there who imo look better than Puy. Maybe I'll change my mind when I meet her in person.I don't go to a coffee shop out of my way in the USA just for a bikini barrista. Roti is everywhere.
Rainbow 4 Superstar is back.
Now about us as being Tom Cruise Hansum. Hahaha.
I'm not sold yet.
Her Beau was an old Asian,. She was having the time of her Life- never seen her so Happy.
He was what I'd call Unattractive think Nana Schoolgirl level.What's her number? I have my eye on 99 and 102. I'm going to be a wildman when I get back, I'm in a place full of hot little chicks that are doing mer no good here LOL. Siem is not a mongering destination, although I did smash a backpacker (hot too) the other day. She had dirty feet.
God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.Mate, if you are that unhappy where you are you aren't going to automaticly be happy once you get here. And while I'm sure it feels nice to vent, perhaps you want to take your musings to rant and raves so as not to clog up the offer and acceptance of on the ground intelligence in this area of the forum.
I don't know about this one, read my post on the reframing of this topic from the point of view of guys, to which guys the chicks actually choose. Guys don't really fuck chicks for ego or anything, it's just about getting off. That's why white dudes will fuck anything with a hole. But again, in the end, the reality is more about what guys the Asian chicks will pick, and I guarantee you, they always pick the white guy.Dude ya need to travel here more, read more (RTFF going back to the beginning) and think twice before hitting the post button. WODR, that's one of the stupidest things I have read ever.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC3EV6Rrp_WOlrXe8xMgOWDg/monthly
According to social blade, she makes anywhere between 60 k to 900 k a year, in USD! See what I mean fellas? That's the power of youtube. And she's only at 300 k subscribers. Not millions of, or tens of millions of, but just 300 k subscribers. That's all you need. A hidden camera, walk around at night filming hot Thai chicks and their possible custom, create a channel called 'Asian Night' or some such, and voila! 30 k subscribers within 5 months, and soon the money will roll in. I've done plenty of research on this dudes, trust me, almost anything coming out of Thailand, or about Thailand, on youtube will generate views. It's inexplicable, but incredible. It's living the dream!Try not to miss many life experiences while you are filming, editing, posting along with 1,500,000 other losers who document their lives on line in the hope of making a buck. There's nothing you could post that hasn't been done before, I mean why would I select your loser video over some hot Chinese girl sensously sucking down a live centipede. What are you going to film, roti sellers? Just another set of titties jiggling under a shirt while spices get pounded? Oh look fat Indians wandering around Suk, oh Ill just wait to 43:22 for a glimpse of schoolgirl?
For every million dollar influencer, there are millions of poor schnooks looking through a camera and seeing nothing in their lives. No thanks. Good luck. Don't give up your day job.
HornyForker
11-27-23, 06:24
Using TF, the cheapest quote for ST I've gotten is about 1 K. In Bangkok, it's been about 2 K. What's the lure of Bangkok over Pattaya? Is it just that the city has a better vibe and more things to do / see?
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Prelude141
11-27-23, 14:16
I don't think she's real either, Thailand is way better than this. Much hotter chicks. And why does she even need to do this? Plenty of white guys will bend over backwards to sponsor her a living. Sugarbaby and all that. Heck, I'll do it. If I had more money! Ha! Although I do agree about the work ethic of Asians, no one on this planet works harder than Asians, and also Mexicans, but in this video, I think it's made up. She can't be real. No one would choose that life, when they could easily have a better one by just walking up to any white guy there. I mean, come on.
There's some famous Thai youtube channels out there of Thai village chicks cooking or whatever in their rural locale, looking sexy while doing Thai things, and if you just do even a teeny tiny bit of research you'll find that they're already with some white guy who bought her a house in said village, and she's making these videos for extra income. Heck, with how many views some of these channels get, they're making more money than most of us already. I tell ya fellas, youtube is the future, but youtube coming out of Thailand? Now that's a guaranteed money maker.I'm pretty this is all staged to make money on YT.
I always thought she was a lady boy and I m still not convinced she is not.
Expat American
11-27-23, 16:42
God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.Leaving Las Vegas was the most fucking depressing movie of all time. The fact that you want to be like Nicholas Cage in that movie is so sad. Dude, please go get some help. Bangkok is just another city with pollution and traffic and all the other stuff. No amount of pussy will fill the hole in your life. Just like any other addiction it will hollow you out and kill you. The most important thing to remember is "wherever YOU go there YOU are".
Banana Boi
11-28-23, 01:11
Using TF, the cheapest quote for ST I've gotten is about 1 K. In Bangkok, it's been about 2 K. What's the lure of Bangkok over Pattaya? Is it just that the city has a better vibe and more things to do / see?Exactly. Bangkok is a real city with tons of things to do and excellent restaurants. Excellent night markets too. Pattaya has Soi 6, Walking Street, LK Metro, a few soapies, Central Festival, and Terminal 21. Most of Pattaya clientele look like bums who retired too early and are trying to get by. Look at any beer bar as you walk by them.
Having said that, given the choice I choose to stay in Pattaya cause I think the gogo girls are MUCH more friendly than the cold girls in BKK gogo bars. Monthly weekend trips to BKK are a must though.
Raj Patela
11-28-23, 01:15
Leaving Las Vegas was the most fucking depressing movie of all time. The fact that you want to be like Nicholas Cage in that movie is so sad. Dude, please go get some help. Bangkok is just another city with pollution and traffic and all the other stuff. No amount of pussy will fill the hole in your life. Just like any other addiction it will hollow you out and kill you. The most important thing to remember is "wherever YOU go there YOU are".I didn't want to be the 1st to bring it up.
But I concur this guy needs Help. He is out on some kind of Spectrum no one's yet discovered.
Prostitute s are not the Answer.
Raj Patela
11-28-23, 01:22
I don't go to a coffee shop out of my way in the USA just for a bikini barrista. Roti is everywhere.What's her number? I have my eye on 99 and 102. I'm going to be a wildman when I get back, I'm in a place full of hot little chicks that are doing mer no good here LOL. Siem is not a mongering destination, although I did smash a backpacker (hot too) the other day. She had dirty feet.
Mate, if you are that unhappy where you are you aren't going to automaticly be happy once you get here. And while I'm sure it feels nice to vent, perhaps you want to take your musings to rant and raves so as not to clog up the offer and acceptance of on the ground intelligence in this area of the forum.
Dude ya need to travel here more, read more (RTFF going back to the beginning) and think twice before hitting the post button. WODR, that's one of the stupidest things I have read ever.Stupider than the Sub / Com. Hahaha 🤣129315;129315;129315;.
P.S. Anyone know how many points of infraction before I need to get a new passport.
P.S. 5 of the finest from you know where we're Blocked from entering Rainbow 4 last night. I must say they take it well.
I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.
Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.
Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?
Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.
Thanks.
DP.
HornyForker
11-28-23, 05:08
Exactly. Bangkok is a real city with tons of things to do and excellent restaurants. Excellent night markets too. Pattaya has Soi 6, Walking Street, LK Metro, a few soapies, Central Festival, and Terminal 21. Most of Pattaya clientele look like bums who retired too early and are trying to get by. Look at any beer bar as you walk by them.
Having said that, given the choice I choose to stay in Pattaya cause I think the gogo girls are MUCH more friendly than the cold girls in BKK gogo bars. Monthly weekend trips to BKK are a must though.Aha thanks. I just got back from a week's stay in Pattaya and so got a good dose of well priced action. I'll stick to non-mongering activities in BKK unless my dik decides that the much higher price is still worth it. I definitely liked the vibe in Pattaya. Cool ladies, laid back and eager to please. Hope to be back next year.
HornyForker
11-28-23, 05:19
God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.Hang in there bud. Things will get better. Leaving La Vegas is awesome. Cage was the perfect actor for that role too.
Raj Patela
11-28-23, 09:44
I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.
Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.
Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?
Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.
Thanks.
DP.Are you asking where Indian s aren't Welcome?
The whole country to start. Hahaha 🤣.
Serious. Rainbow 4 and 5 indians keep getting Blocked.
Raj Patela
11-28-23, 09:46
I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.
Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.
Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?
Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.
Thanks.
DP.I wonder if Nana Schoolgirl is Indian Friendly.
Hahaha 🤣 hahaha 🤣 hahaha 🤣.
I'll be staying with family near Siam Paragon and I am just curious if there is any action nearby? Would be convenient to accidentally walk into a massage place with FS if it is close by. Otherwise I just plan on taking a cab to nearby RLDs to experience some s3 xual pleasure.Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.
Exactly. Bangkok is a real city with tons of things to do and excellent restaurants. Excellent night markets too. Agreed. Check out Sakura Akasuri
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2871925&viewfull=1#post2871925
short walk on Soi 55 from Thong Lo.
Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).
HornyForker
11-28-23, 10:56
Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.Cool, I will try that tonight if I can break free from family commitments. I see the stops you mentioned on the 'Green Line'. Thanks 11 Bravo.
Everything is crap here, while it's paradise in Asia.Yes, it might all SEEM to be fun and games when you're a tourist, but living here (or anywhere as an expat), can be a different story. Have you heard about the corruption (to paraphrase Captain Renault, "I'm shocked, shocked, to find corruption going on in here"). Careful what you say or write, or a legal case can be brought against you. Don't have an accident; the usual "it's the foreigner's fault as it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't here", and of course the police will investigate, but don't plan on going anywhere until they finish (or you settle). Go ahead and piss off a mucky-muck and see what happens. If you're a wealthy enough mucky-muck, you can even run over and kill a cop and nothing happens. Sure, if you have some wasta, some juice, some connections, it can help, but, on the other hand, it can grate when you hear from your local friends (assuming you care to have local friends) the petty shakedowns and crap they have to put up with.
Myself, wherever I am, that's home, and I make the best of it, seeing and experiencing what I can, but NEVER a one-track mind. And the first time you have a shawarma blowout, believe me, you will question your decision to leave the homeland.
Raj Patela
11-28-23, 12:37
Getting ones Belief s system torn down by Sexpats must be a bit disconcerting.
I stand with Newton York.
Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).Damn, I hate to self-quote, but just slow in my old age and missed the edit window.
To those who say Chat-u-chak has no place on a punting site, I say au contraire. It makes a GREAT excuse to escape inquisitive eyes, for those that need to. "No, you don't want to go, it's HOT and CROWDED, I'll check it out first". Quick BTS or MRT ride, an hour truly shopping, a ride back to town, and you've got a couple of hours free time. And if you've bought something, alibi confirmed. Just make sure it's the weekend.
Captain Solo
11-28-23, 16:45
Who in Thailand would want to watch a woman make rotis? I suspect most her viewers and 330 K subscribers are in the West, interested in the life of an attractive woman in Asia having to work so hard with her food cart.
Other coffee makers in Thailand and street food vendors in Asia are also on YouTube, but without revealing attire like Puy, and do not gather millions views. Whoever stages her 4 K videos did a good job dressing her up in fancy, revealing clothes showing lots of skin, big, happy smiles and fast, skillful hands. Got to admit she looks attractive in that sexy attire.
YouTube pay outs are high for Western views, so she may be making closer to $900 K a year, a big chunk of money in Thailand and a very good deal. With all that money she can quit the roti business and keep a couple farangs as sex slaves LOL.
Captain Solo
11-28-23, 16:54
Somebody took videos of her sleeping in bed in the morning before she woke up to get ready to work. Cameraman likely gets to sleep with her in the same bed.
She said it took a lot of time to do the videos in addition to her roti job and asked viewers for support, but never mentioned who does the videos. She also hung the phone on the cart to video herself working. Videos showed no computer or editing equipment in her apartment. There are no pictures of husband or BF in her Instagram account.
Roti is a common snack in Thailand. There must be hundreds other roti makers with the same or better skills, but none wears attractive, sexy attires showing lots of skin like her LOL.
HornyForker
11-28-23, 18:06
Somebody took videos of her sleeping in bed in the morning before she woke up to get ready to work. Cameraman likely gets to sleep with her in the same bed. There are no pictures of husband or BF in her Instagram accountThere are pictures of her husband/boyfriend and young kids on her Instagram account ... September 2021 and prior.
Captain Solo
11-28-23, 18:12
There are always exceptions, but generally Asians tend to avoid conflicts, unlikely to complain or confront.
I heard comments from a few people in hotel management in Asia. Among various visitors, the frequency of problems they encounter from high to low: Africans, Indians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Koreans, Japanese. They did not mention Caucasians. I am not trying to denigrate any specific group, only relaying info from reliable sources.
Japanese are a very formal people. They are not used to haggling. Guys would act like perfect gentlemen, pay whatever the girls ask and accept whatever services they receive without complaining or causing scenes. If they are not happy, they would quietly take their business somewhere else.
Bar girls like Japanese because they are generous and unlikely to cause problems. One of my wingmen in Tijuana is a Japanese American guy, nice, cool, calm, collect, like a Buddha. By his demeanors people would feel he's honest, reasonable, unlikely to break out in emotional outbursts and would never hurt a fly. A well-known tough and difficult bar girl, pretty like Barbie doll, acts cold and rough to most guys and girls, but would drape herself over him and coo to him like he was a baby. Go figure.
I know a few difficult US civie women, went through multiple divorces with Asian and Caucasian spouses, settled down with Japanese American guys and are happy for life. Perhaps they feel these guys are nicer, more honest, reliable, trustworthy than others?
There are always exceptions, but generally Asians tend to avoid conflicts, unlikely to complain or confront.Definitely.
Asians in general, and Thais definitely, don't want to lose face in a given situation. In Thailand, there's Krang Jai. Thailand is a very complicated hierarchical system, where your power in society is determined by many things. Just the simple wai, notice how different it is depending on the situation: who does it first, how high on the face are the fingers, how long, etc. , etc. I learned a very long time ago I'd never figure out how to do it properly, so I reserve mine for monks and people older (few and far between) than myself. I like this description of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain. And just because a Thai is smiling and seemingly nodding in agreement, doesn't necessarily mean he's happy and agreeing with you. A facade to smooth society's interactions' sandpaper, and everyone just gets along with life. Certainly a lot better than other socienty's Glock solutions, so they just might be onto something.
The biggest pointer I can give you is to ignore the dipshits on here.
- Stay anywhere between Sukhumvit Soi 2 and the Asoke intersection.
- All reports indicate smooth immigration experience since visa-free was announced.
- Budgets: Depends where you go and what you want, but have a look at this for starters: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2825648#post2825648.
- Indians not allowed: It all depends on the kind of Indian you want to be. So have a look at this thread for pointers: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand.
Have fun and report back your escapades.
Pulse.
I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.
Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.
Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?
Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.
Thanks.
DP.
Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.
I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.
Worth a go.
YMMV.
Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.
Agreed. Check out Sakura Akasuri
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2871925&viewfull=1#post2871925
short walk on Soi 55 from Thong Lo.
Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.
The biggest pointer I can give you is to ignore the dipshits on here.
- Stay anywhere between Sukhumvit Soi 2 and the Asoke intersection.
- All reports indicate smooth immigration experience since visa-free was announced.
- Budgets: Depends where you go and what you want, but have a look at this for starters: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2825648#post2825648.
- Indians not allowed: It all depends on the kind of Indian you want to be. So have a look at this thread for pointers: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand.Thanks for advice. Appreciated. Was not aware of Indian thread on BKK.
Thanks.
DP.
Captain Solo
11-29-23, 19:41
11 Bravo,
Very insightful of Thais' nature.
I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious. They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!
It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.
I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.
Captain Solo
11-29-23, 19:44
Actually Puy is not that pretty, only looks nice, clean, fit, healthy and happy with her big smiles. I have seen quite a few much prettier young girls toiling over hot stove on the streets of Bangkok, but none wear dressy, revealing and sexy attires like Puy. She has good taste in clothes that really improves her good looks.
She sure wears less clothes and shows more skin than all other street vendors, succeeds in drawing lots of attention to herself on the street and in Youtube with her unusual combination of good looks, sexy clothes and hard work.
She's running out of interesting subjects. Her videos with children, sisters, friends and family are boring, draw few viewers. Perhaps she can keep the interest momentum going with tours of Bangkok, pairing with other chefs to show Thai unique food, or for maximum viewers' interest, perhaps videos of her and cameraman with even less clothes in bed LOL.
ChrisCross123
11-29-23, 23:39
your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain.Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.
Damn, I hate to self-quote, but just slow in my old age and missed the edit window.
To those who say Chat-u-chak has no place on a punting site, I say au contraire. It makes a GREAT excuse to escape inquisitive eyes, for those that need to. "No, you don't want to go, it's HOT and CROWDED, I'll check it out first". Quick BTS or MRT ride, an hour truly shopping, a ride back to town, and you've got a couple of hours free time. And if you've bought something, alibi confirmed. Just make sure it's the weekend.Now as to the more sophisticated view: If you are a first timer, its a MUST just because its Chatuchak and is an experience. You arent going to spend just an hour there either, unless you have been there before and are lookin g for some crap that you think you can only find there. If you want to experience it, its all day. If you have been there before, there are others that are more fun and cheaper to boot. If you live here, you may NEED to go there, its another of those places, like Auto Parts Street, that are the only places that have what you need. But there are so many other markets that if you have a market fetish, your needs would be better served by going elsewhere. The expansion of the MRT makes it easier.
Hell, if you want to go to a Thai market and impress your brand new girlfriend who is now a name instead of a number, take the boat to Nothanburi Pier, wander around there, then taxi up to Koh Kret and have a romantic dinner on the river after a schmooze through the local Mon markets. Those Clay burners you see in Terminal 21 for $30 are only $5 up there. Weekends only. Dress nice and behave 'because you are real farang up there. '.
There are tons more, Google is your friend.
If you want to try to understand the Thai lifestyle better, and you only have one market to go to, go to Khlong Toey. After all, you really don't need cheap souveniers made in China that are sold all through SE Asia?
Definitely.
Asians in general, and Thais definitely, don't want to lose face in a given situation. In Thailand, there's Krang Jai. Thailand is a very complicated hierarchical system, where your power in society is determined by many things. Just the simple wai, notice how different it is depending on the situation: who does it first, how high on the face are the fingers, how long, etc. , etc. I learned a very long time ago I'd never figure out how to do it properly, so I reserve mine for monks and people older (few and far between) than myself. I like this description of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain. And just because a Thai is smiling and seemingly nodding in agreement, doesn't necessarily mean he's happy and agreeing with you. A facade to smooth society's interactions' sandpaper, and everyone just gets along with life. Certainly a lot better than other socienty's Glock solutions, so they just might be onto something.Until they snap and massacre a village. Your view of Thai culture is simplistic.
Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.
I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.
Worth a go.
YMMV.Worth a go. Right. No name, date this happened, where you met her, where she hangs out. Hey guys, look, here's pics of a chick I shagged, go find her amoung 20 million other girls.
Priceless.
11 Bravo,
Very insightful of Thais' nature.
I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious. They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!
It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.
I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.Now, as one with real experience, you are getting it.
Personally I thnik Thai and Cambodian people are the nicest folks in the world, as long as you too are Jai Dee. That includes the Hi Sos in Thailand I have met, I find the Okhnas in Cambodia to be arrogant like their Chinese Masters.
Too many Westerners act like Westerners in Thailand. Don't.
I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious.What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).
They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!Yes indeed, along with the high-so's (want to tease a friend? Call her a high-so). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the 2nd person PLURAL falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.
It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.
I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.
Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the status of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.
Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.
You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.I try to bring back something a bit more meaningful, probably why I don't need to buy anyhting at Chatuchak.
Raj Patela
11-30-23, 06:44
What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).
Yes indeed, along with the high-so's (want to tease a friend? Call her a high-so). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the 2nd person PLURAL falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.
Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.
And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.
YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the status of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.
You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.Class ratings.
22. Prostitute s.
23. Soi Dogs.
24. Customers of number 22.
End of Classes. Nana Schoolgirl would be in 22 while I'm in 24. Go figure. Stay in your lane People.
JustLoggedInto
11-30-23, 10:29
I think we need to reframe the conversation less about what kind of chicks Asians or white guys want, and more about what kind of guys the Thai chicks want. The reality is that Asian chicks have very low standards when it comes to men. You only need to be one thing. White. That's it. If you're Asian of any kind, be it East or from the sub continent, then you'd better be good looking, or rich or have a 12 inch dick, cause even the ugliest asian chick won't even look at you. Doesn't matter if she's a Thai model, a Filipina domestic helper working in Hong Kong, or some washed up middle aged stewardess from Indonesia who worked for qatar airways for a few years, they all end up with white guys in the end. And yes, even if you look like American comedy legend Danny freakin Devito. Why don't they go with more white guys in Thermae you ask? DUH! Because there's less white guys there. Jeezes H mother effin christ. You'd think we'd all need phds to figure this out. I did a pretty thorough scouting of Thaniya in my time, and the main reason they go with Japanese dudes there is again, cause white guys aren't there, maybe most of them are too chicken shit scared or something, I sure wasn't. 9 out of 10 times, Asian chicks will go with a white guy, and the one time they don't is cause they're shit out of luck. So stop complaining, and use that superpower of being born with white skin. Jesus and mary. God sakes. So, it's not that Asian guys go to rebuild their ego or whatever, although white guys will fuck just about anything with a hole, it's more that the chicks will pick the white guys over anything else.I suppose I'll make a blanket statement of my own. Imo a lot of the Farang tend to pick dark skinned, tattooed, skinnier, taller girls. And a lot of the Japanese and Korean guys tend to pick more of the Kpop model looking girls.
I really do think it depends on which club you're at and which girl it is. Ie if you're at Billiards, it's equal opportunity for everyone.
There's a certain type of hot Asian girl that generally doesn't go with white guys. It's almost like a Venn diagram where one section is greyed out and white guys don't have access.
If you're at Baccara they much prefer Japanese / Korean clientele. Even if you get a lady drink as a white guy, she'll take the drink of course. But if another Asian guy asks for a lady drink, she's going home with him.
I think there's prejudice. But prejudice has truth.
There's a prejudice that white peoplee are just known to be cheap. "Gogo girls are too expensive, I can get this at the beerbars. This is a waste of money' -- so after hearing that a few times they immediately classify you as cheap and don't bother with that and go straight for the guys that DO like gogirls which happen to be Japanese and Korean guys.
So beer bar girls. They're fine with Farang.
Gogo girls in some bars. They view you as cheap.
While you can find hot girls in gogo bars and beerbars, the certain look, ie that Kpop girl look, they don't go to beerbars. And 'those' girls don't bother with white guys or they have prejudice that you're cheap.
So in essence // Farang don't like the look of those types of girls and much prefer the skinny, tattooed, dark skinned looks.
But on the flipside those Kpop looking dimes don't bother with white guys because they view them as cheap. So they go to Japanese and Korean guys.
I suppose I'll make a blanket statement of my own. Imo a lot of the Farang tend to pick dark skinned, tattooed, skinnier, taller girls. And a lot of the Japanese and Korean guys tend to pick more of the Kpop model looking girls.
I really do think it depends on which club you're at and which girl it is. Ie if you're at Billiards, it's equal opportunity for everyone.
There's a certain type of hot Asian girl that generally doesn't go with white guys. It's almost like a Venn diagram where one section is greyed out and white guys don't have access.
If you're at Baccara they much prefer Japanese / Korean clientele. Even if you get a lady drink as a white guy, she'll take the drink of course. But if another Asian guy asks for a lady drink, she's going home with him.
I think there's prejudice. But prejudice has truth.
There's a prejudice that white peoplee are just known to be cheap. "Gogo girls are too expensive, I can get this at the beerbars. This is a waste of money' -- so after hearing that a few times they immediately classify you as cheap and don't bother with that and go straight for the guys that DO like gogirls which happen to be Japanese and Korean guys.
So beer bar girls. They're fine with Farang.
Gogo girls in some bars. They view you as cheap.
While you can find hot girls in gogo bars and beerbars, the certain look, ie that Kpop girl look, they don't go to beerbars. And 'those' girls don't bother with white guys or they have prejudice that you're cheap.
So in essence // Farang don't like the look of those types of girls and much prefer the skinny, tattooed, dark skinned looks.
But on the flipside those Kpop looking dimes don't bother with white guys because they view them as cheap. So they go to Japanese and Korean guys.Take it from a long term farang resident. The longer you're here the less you're attracted to the dark skin Issan look. And you're leaving out one important factor. Most western dudes expected GFE or a PSE right off the bat. Many Asian guys are content to go with the flow and just get serviced. So herein lies the problem for all of us, the beautiful K-pop looking girl is not going to bang you like a pornstar.
The wonderful thing about covid times is there were unicorns online. One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. Had worked japan, taiwan, and Hong kong, and obviously had some wealthy donors at times, because we had a discussion about her favorite red wines in between rounds and she knew her stuff. In addition she was absolutely pure filth. While standing behind me in the shower with my unit in her hand askes me if I was going to a+ her. Skill set was unreal and had no problem getting that second pop orally in less than 5 min. Good times for residents as working gals from all over returned. I had quite a few experiences close to that but Iris was definitely tops.
ChrisCross123
11-30-23, 19:33
the beautiful K-pop looking girl is not going to bang you like a pornstar.
The wonderful thing about covid times is there were unicorns online. One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.
Until they snap and massacre a village. Your view of Thai culture is simplistic.No, 30 years experience, and much more than just a BKK/Pattaya tourist visit. The societal pressures to confirm keep a lid on the pot in most cases, but there is the exception, as anywhere, where the pressure becomes too great on an individual. How often does a mass kill happen? Weekly, monthly, yearly? I don't keep abreast of the local news (damn, hated when BKK Post stopped publishing a NEWSPAPER), but walking down any street at any time, I'm never concerned that I'll wind up collateral damage. Elsewhere...
Personally I thnik Thai and Cambodian people are the nicest folks in the world, as long as you too are Jai Dee. That includes the Hi Sos in Thailand I have met, I find the Okhnas in Cambodia to be arrogant like their Chinese Masters.On the one hand, Cambodians are great, on the other, two words, khmer rouge. Now THAT was a massacre. A must visit: Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum. With Thailand's history and culture, that wouldn't happen here. One berserk soldier with an automatic weapon, yes. 70000 berserk soldiers with automatic weapons starting from Year Zero, no. And as I posted, Myanmar, Asian hospitality and friendliness on steroids. As in Cambodia, a real crime what's happening in Myanmar now. And with PRC opening up again, where's my ruck?
Raj Patela
12-01-23, 02:49
Compare Thailand Gun Killings vs USA.
You need to consider the one Demographic that does most of the Violence in America is basically non. Existent in Thailand. Sans those that Hang around Nana Area. I'm starting to think even our Lovely School had enough of them.
JustLoggedInto
12-01-23, 04:11
Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.Nah I believe him. COVID was a strange time. The girls were desperate. You could get a lot of the gogo girls on LINE. And it was a short period of time. But yeah, now things are just inflated prices and things are back in full swing.
The LBs give 2 major tells. 1st is they are super exaggerated with their movements. Real girls don't flaunt out in public. In fact, real girls from Baccara (as an exapmle) tend to wear more conservative clothing when they go home with you, almost like theyr'e trying to quickly hide into the crowd.
2nd tell is the voice. They can never fuking fake that. Thank god. But never ever can they sound like girls do. No matter what they do. You can just hear it just by the way they say the word 'Hello'.
Worst comes to worse, ask to see the ID.
Take it from a long term farang resident. ...One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with.
Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.I don't know, does Goatscrot need glasses, unable to detect post-op trans, or should ChrisCross123 refrain from pulling statistics out of his ass as if they were real? Hard to tell, but I know which way I'm leaning.
Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.100% female. Dude, I've lived her for a quarter of century. I know a ladyboy when. I encounter one.
No, 30 years experience, and much more than just a BKK/Pattaya tourist visit. The societal pressures to confirm keep a lid on the pot in most cases, but there is the exception, as anywhere, where the pressure becomes too great on an individual. How often does a mass kill happen? Weekly, monthly, yearly? I don't keep abreast of the local news (damn, hated when BKK Post stopped publishing a NEWSPAPER), but walking down any street at any time, I'm never concerned that I'll wind up collateral damage. Elsewhere...
On the one hand, Cambodians are great, on the other, two words, khmer rouge. Now THAT was a massacre. A must visit: Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum. With Thailand's history and culture, that wouldn't happen here. One berserk soldier with an automatic weapon, yes. 70000 berserk soldiers with automatic weapons starting from Year Zero, no. And as I posted, Myanmar, Asian hospitality and friendliness on steroids. As in Cambodia, a real crime what's happening in Myanmar now. And with PRC opening up again, where's my ruck?Your view of the Khmer tragedy is as simplistic as your view of the Thais and the complicated history of this area.
Nah I believe him. COVID was a strange time. The girls were desperate. You could get a lot of the gogo girls on LINE. And it was a short period of time. But yeah, now things are just inflated prices and things are back in full swing.
The LBs give 2 major tells. 1st is they are super exaggerated with their movements. Real girls don't flaunt out in public. In fact, real girls from Baccara (as an exapmle) tend to wear more conservative clothing when they go home with you, almost like theyr'e trying to quickly hide into the crowd.
2nd tell is the voice. They can never fuking fake that. Thank god. But never ever can they sound like girls do. No matter what they do. You can just hear it just by the way they say the word 'Hello'.
Worst comes to worse, ask to see the ID.Yes, I've encountered a few post ops with lovely lady voices and gentle movements. But I agree. Generally, I find the LB are most aggressive (except the really clever ones). But if I'm walking down Cowboy and a young lady chases me (I'm in my 50's etc) it will almost always be a LB. Outside normal bars / clubs promotion girls will grab me but generally are doing so in a less demanding way. I did encounter many LB on TF pretending but I tell all the potentials that my hotel will check ID and no LB are allowed. They disappear quickly. Also the ones around Nana etc, I do the same trick if I am unsure. Despite all that I have had 3 get to my room or apt over the years and gone for the grope to find ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.
Newton York
12-02-23, 02:57
Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.
I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.
Worth a go.
YMMV.I don't know dude, she's kinda cute I guess, with the BBFS I suppose worth a boink. But we're paying hard earned cash money here. Maybe it's the photos. I kinda get it I suppose. If the chick's a real sweetheart, that'll more than compensate for the looks, God knows I've had more than my fair share of getting really attractive chicks only for them to be a really bad performer, and just to be bad personality wise. Why, one of the best fucks I ever had was in Geylang with this Thai chick, that while attractive, wouldn't be described as gorgeous. But boy, did she deliver in bed. So I thank you Belvaros for posting photos. Everybody talks a big game here, not me though, I just tell it like it is because my life truly sucks, but anyone who posts real photos, always greatly appreciated! But also, if you could add some information on how we might also partake in her. Is she on fiwfans?
Newton York
12-02-23, 03:05
Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.I don't know dude, I've heard many a guy tell that they can spot a ladyboy cause they're just so good at this whole picking up chicks thing. But said same guy would come back with a story of how he had no idea that the lady was a dude.
Time for Aerosmith! Dude looks like a lady!
Oh my God! It's the crying game!
But like come on. If we were all studs so freaking good at getting chicks into bed, why are we in Thailand paying for sex? God knows I can't get it any other way not just cause I'm old, but cause I'm ugly as sin. I tell ya dudes, even in this anonymous forum I can be honest and don't have to resort to pretending to be anything I'm not. I say roll with the punches. If you go as far as bringing the ladyboy back to the room, and you find yourself staring at junk, don't freak out. Politely say no thanks and move on. Them Thai ladyboys, some of them are so good looking, you'd never know. You want guarantees, never pick the girls standing outside of Thermae, and when at Nana make sure the bar you're in does not have ladyboys. Thailand is a great country, it's our playground, let's be nice there. Even if I say that I'm 99% sure the chicks I banged from Nana and Cowboy were real chicks, but when you've had 10 beers, and some of them look so real, post op and all that, you never know.
The statistical odds of us having banged at least one post op while hobbying in Thailand, especially if you end up with dozens and dozens of chicks in a single weeks long trip, is pretty high. Some of them Nana bars, they won't necessarily tell you, even if they have the signs up. So I take it back, no guarantees in a Nana bar. Well, then again it depends. Man, There's so many conflicting reports on this and things change so fast there. Just go with your gut.
Newton York
12-02-23, 03:12
Hang in there bud. Things will get better. Leaving La Vegas is awesome. Cage was the perfect actor for that role too.Thank you HornyForker. But it's too late for me. Decades of shit has taken it's toll on my life and I'm just waiting for when everything is finally over. But God, I love this forum. With no friends, and almost no family left, dealing with the after effects of what I experienced in South East Asia decades ago because of Uncle Sam. This here forum. This is the one place where I can express myself and remind myself that I do have one reason left to wake up in the morning. One reason to go on. One reason to keep going to work, putting up with the assholes in the office. And that one reason is Thailand. Thailand will both save me and kill me, and I can't wait to go back. One last blowout sex trip. What a way to go.
Newton York
12-02-23, 04:04
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I don't know dude, I've heard many a guy tell that they can spot a ladyboy cause they're just so good at this whole picking up chicks thing. But said same guy would come back with a story of how he had no idea that the lady was a dude.
Time for Aerosmith! Dude looks like a lady!
Oh my God! It's the crying game!
But like come on. If we were all studs so freaking good at getting chicks into bed, why are we in Thailand paying for sex? God knows I can't get it any other way not just cause I'm old, but cause I'm ugly as sin. I tell ya dudes, even in this anonymous forum I can be honest and don't have to resort to pretending to be anything I'm not. I say roll with the punches. If you go as far as bringing the ladyboy back to the room, and you find yourself staring at junk, don't freak out. Politely say no thanks and move on. Them Thai ladyboys, some of them are so good looking, you'd never know. You want guarantees, never pick the girls standing outside of Thermae, and when at Nana make sure the bar you're in does not have ladyboys. Thailand is a great country, it's our playground, let's be nice there. Even if I say that I'm 99% sure the chicks I banged from Nana and Cowboy were real chicks, but when you've had 10 beers, and some of them look so real, post op and all that, you never know.
The statistical odds of us having banged at least one post op while hobbying in Thailand, especially if you end up with dozens and dozens of chicks in a single weeks long trip, is pretty high. Some of them Nana bars, they won't necessarily tell you, even if they have the signs up. So I take it back, no guarantees in a Nana bar. Well, then again it depends. Man, There's so many conflicting reports on this and things change so fast there. Just go with your gut.You always know if you pay attention. And if in doubt you can always ask. Ladyboys are not there to trick people. In fact they don't want a customer having an unpleasant surprise either.
I don't know, does Goatscrot need glasses, unable to detect post-op trans, or should ChrisCross123 refrain from pulling statistics out of his ass as if they were real? Hard to tell, but I know which way I'm leaning.If you fish in the ponds that the local lads do you will find a lot of taller white skined women who have not had babies.
Not me. By the way the Japanese passport is better than most western ones. They have more agreements with more countries that allow them to enter countries without a visa. Learned this from a Chinese cutie after sex. Don't know why she felt the need to share that information.Had a GF with the best combo, dual national: Swiss and Danish. As a Dane, could work anywhere in the EU. With the Swiss, didn't need a visa for most countries.
And the most useful superpower is a friendly attitude, a good heart, with a bit of humility thrown in. Opens a lot more doors than a boot.
White men are turned away from 90+ percent of the adult related places in Japan and Korea. Hell, even other Asian are turned away if you can't speak the local language. You won't even be able to take a street walker from Okubo Park cause most of the girls can't speak English or only trust to go with locals.
You don't even have to leave Bangkok to find places where white men are turned away. Thaniya Road would be one of the examples. Back at turn of the century, working with a Black American officer who'd been stationed in Japan. Said he had a great time; any number of Japanese civilian girls wanted a unique experience. He didn't need to BS.
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As to discrimination, I found it wasn't racial or national but economic when I was sent to the front of the government line. My salary cost the customer more, I was there for work, so better use of my time and eliminate queue delays, more time on the job, what they were paying for.
If you fish in the ponds that the local lads do you will find a lot of taller white skined women who have not had babies.Unfortunately, the older I get, the barer my hook looks... :)
HorseTrader
12-02-23, 18:23
Unfortunately, the older I get, the barer my hook looks... :)My hook is only baited with portraits of the king.
ChrisCross123
12-02-23, 22:41
Yes, I've encountered a few post ops with lovely lady voices and gentle movements. But I agree. Generally, I find the LB are most aggressive (except the really clever ones). But if I'm walking down Cowboy and a young lady chases me (I'm in my 50's etc) it will almost always be a LB. Outside normal bars / clubs promotion girls will grab me but generally are doing so in a less demanding way. I did encounter many LB on TF pretending but I tell all the potentials that my hotel will check ID and no LB are allowed. They disappear quickly. Also the ones around Nana etc, I do the same trick if I am unsure. Despite all that I have had 3 get to my room or apt over the years and gone for the grope to find ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.
ChrisCross123
12-02-23, 22:45
You always know if you pay attention. And if in doubt you can always ask. Ladyboys are not there to trick people. In fact they don't want a customer having an unpleasant surprise either.Wrong. Pre-op ladyboys will usually tell you because you will find out anyway. Also given their still present dick they don't precisely identify as women. But post-op ladyboys (with artificial vagina) do often actually identify as women and then of course won't refer to themselves as male.
I talked to one transsexual on TF whose pictures where absolutely not giving even a hint of her having been a him. Not in the slightest. Turns out she transsexed at the age of 10! I doubt you will be able to even hear the difference given that she probably took hormones before voice break and puberty.
I don't know dude, she's kinda cute I guess, with the BBFS I suppose worth a boink. But we're paying hard earned cash money here. Maybe it's the photos. I kinda get it I suppose. If the chick's a real sweetheart, that'll more than compensate for the looks, God knows I've had more than my fair share of getting really attractive chicks only for them to be a really bad performer, and just to be bad personality wise. Why, one of the best fucks I ever had was in Geylang with this Thai chick, that while attractive, wouldn't be described as gorgeous. But boy, did she deliver in bed. So I thank you Belvaros for posting photos. Everybody talks a big game here, not me though, I just tell it like it is because my life truly sucks, but anyone who posts real photos, always greatly appreciated! But also, if you could add some information on how we might also partake in her. Is she on fiwfans?Sorry, only just saw this post. I have her whatsapp. I had her line but for some reason I cannot login anymore (dog ate my homework). I have videos of us dancing and yada yada yada.
As you said she is what she is, but the sex is A-, the attitude is A++, her body is be+, her face a see+ IMHO.
But, as I said, I like the lady and she hads the right attitude, is semi educated, used to help out old people yada yada yada. More of a companion with great ball sucking / cock sucking techniques.
DM me for whatsapp nos if needed.
As for sex, I had an Indonesian-American friend when I lived in Vegas. Not attractive in the face, chunky fake boobs body BUT she had the best touch ever. One night at the Palms bar area, she gave me a hand massage for 30 minutes, then groped my neck gently (tingled my spine) and massaged my dick through my pants. I spurted everywhere. Best O I'd ever had until then. She took me home sucked me twice and swallowed what I had, like a nice girl should. I tried to DATY but her pussy was too hairy so she fucked me each way to heaven. Only time we did it. Then, it got weird, she was ugly, so we went back to being dance mates. She had a 3/10 face IMHO.
So YMMV. Then I've been with 2 models and a few porn stars. The former were shit in bed, the latter PSE but, several were dangerously diseased in the end and I was lucky not to get anything at all from them. In TH I've had 9's who were shit, 10's who were great and everything from epic failures to the greatest PSE in the land.
So anyway, back to the girl in my pics, the Cambodian, she is one of my top 5 ever LT players.
YMMV.
Yes, I read the FF, and I know it's been asked a while ago, but no answers. So here it is again:
I love to visit a BJ bar or massage parlor where I can see other guys being serviced or hear the bonking noises, with a potential peak. I love see girls at work.
Anyone can recommend a BJ bar or massage parlor that has that?
Thanks all!
Evan.
You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.Sounds like you have had some experience.
Newton York
12-03-23, 23:17
Sorry, only just saw this post. I have her whatsapp. I had her line but for some reason I cannot login anymore (dog ate my homework). I have videos of us dancing and yada yada yada.
As you said she is what she is, but the sex is A-, the attitude is A++, her body is be+, her face a see+ IMHO.
But, as I said, I like the lady and she hads the right attitude, is semi educated, used to help out old people yada yada yada. More of a companion with great ball sucking / cock sucking techniques.
DM me for whatsapp nos if needed.
As for sex, I had an Indonesian-American friend when I lived in Vegas. Not attractive in the face, chunky fake boobs body BUT she had the best touch ever. One night at the Palms bar area, she gave me a hand massage for 30 minutes, then groped my neck gently (tingled my spine) and massaged my dick through my pants. I spurted everywhere. Best O I'd ever had until then. She took me home sucked me twice and swallowed what I had, like a nice girl should. I tried to DATY but her pussy was too hairy so she fucked me each way to heaven. Only time we did it. Then, it got weird, she was ugly, so we went back to being dance mates. She had a 3/10 face IMHO.
So YMMV. Then I've been with 2 models and a few porn stars. The former were shit in bed, the latter PSE but, several were dangerously diseased in the end and I was lucky not to get anything at all from them. In TH I've had 9's who were shit, 10's who were great and everything from epic failures to the greatest PSE in the land.
So anyway, back to the girl in my pics, the Cambodian, she is one of my top 5 ever LT players.
YMMV.I agree Belvaros, some of the best fucks I've ever had was with mildly attractive chicks. Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that since they only look kinda mildly fuckable, they try harder at performance. While the hot chicks, always get by with their looks. This is a pretty common phenomenon at places like Thermae. So just like you, I never judge a book by its cover. Since we can kinda afford it, I always try to give the girl a chance. Yes, my gut instinct when I see a 'butterface', as in 'She's hot everywhere 'but her face', is to just walk, but more often than not they give me a good time. Easily in the top 5 best fucks I ever had was in Geylang years ago. Kinda cute and a nice kind of chubby, she wasn't exactly a model type, but by the balls of Lucifer himself, she rocked my world. I wish there was some way to find her again. And I remember one of the first times I got in to the whole Korean girl scene here in the tri-state area, when she opened the door, I thought kinda like 'meh', but by Buddha she changed my life, and I went to see her again at least 5 more times. The last 2 times with her I even went bareback. The only reason I had to stop seeing her was because I realized I was starting to develop feelings for her. That's a no go. These 2 girls were very good at rimming by the way, and that kinda awesome service, you remember forever.
Anyway, take it from me fellas, give them uglies a try once in a while. Well, not too ugly. I can say all this too cause I'm ugly as sin myself. On the level of acting legend Danny Devito ugly, I'm just saying. Know why Thailand is paradise? Cause chicks will bang guys like me that look as ugly as comedy auteur Danny Devito, that's why.
MamaGuevos
12-03-23, 23:23
My wingman and I have been going to Bangkok for 10 days every January for about 10 years. We were big fans of Insanity as it had a nice balance of non-pros (of both sexes), semi-pros and a few hardcore girls. Neither of us are big drinkers, but nevertheless, we were able to reliably pull some FL girls from these bars / discos whenever we went. I should mention that we are both "mature", and while neither of us is fat (we both run 20-30 miles per week) or particularly ugly, no one would mistake us for being less than 60. We do fine, for example, on Thaifriendly or Tinder using our real photographs, so we are not that far over the hill, LOL.
In any case, Insanity has shut down, as has been documented here. Indeed, I was in BKK twice already this year and it is definitely shut down and does not look ready to reopen! There are articles on the internet saying it was busted for not paying attention to COVID rules. It won't open again until 2025 (which probably means it is closed forever).
We tried Mixx back in May, and the crowd was younger than I remembered. Most of the girls were not P4 P. Nice eye candy, but nothing for us to take home. After failing to attract more than a few glances from the pretty ladies over the course of an hour or so, we took home a pair of chubby Vietnamese girls whose performance was quite lackluster.
I am trying to find another club in BKK to visit with the intention of enjoying the music, the hot ladies and scoring a beautiful Asian for a night of P4 P fun. We are not looking for a go-go bar, but we have no personal experience with a variety of bars that may suit our purposes (eg, Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte and Route 66 have all been recommended), but I just cannot tell if my top priority, ie, pulling a lady to bring back to my hotel, is likely to be accomplished. The advice of the community is requested.
By the way, although neither of us drinks, it did occur to me that we might do better buying a bottle of expensive whiskey and sitting at a table. That might attract some of the pretty ladies at Mixx (or it might attract their boyfriends). Does anyone have experience with this approach?
You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.The 3 that lied to me about being LB were pre-op, sorry for the confusion of my post and YES I know post op have the modified credit card readers. But quite a few post OP have been done in their early teens and may have lady voices so YMMV.
Wrong. Pre-op ladyboys will usually tell you because you will find out anyway. Also given their still present dick they don't precisely identify as women. But post-op ladyboys (with artificial vagina) do often actually identify as women and then of course won't refer to themselves as male.
I talked to one transsexual on TF whose pictures where absolutely not giving even a hint of her having been a him. Not in the slightest. Turns out she transsexed at the age of 10! I doubt you will be able to even hear the difference given that she probably took hormones before voice break and puberty.We'll have to disagree here. They'll always admit it when pressed.
We'll have to disagree here. They'll always admit it when pressed.A++.
Most, many LB are on the scam I've found in the last 30 years. But WTF do I know or the many videos of LB / str8 guys show.
YMMV.
Stimulus99
12-04-23, 13:02
My wingman and I have been going to Bangkok for 10 days every January for about 10 years. We were big fans of Insanity as it had a nice balance of non-pros (of both sexes), semi-pros and a few hardcore girls. Neither of us are big drinkers, but nevertheless, we were able to reliably pull some FL girls from these bars / discos whenever we went. I should mention that we are both "mature", and while neither of us is fat (we both run 20-30 miles per week) or particularly ugly, no one would mistake us for being less than 60. We do fine, for example, on Thaifriendly or Tinder using our real photographs, so we are not that far over the hill, LOL.
In any case, Insanity has shut down, as has been documented here. Indeed, I was in BKK twice already this year and it is definitely shut down and does not look ready to reopen! There are articles on the internet saying it was busted for not paying attention to COVID rules. It won't open again until 2025 (which probably means it is closed forever).
We tried Mixx back in May, and the crowd was younger than I remembered. Most of the girls were not P4 P. Nice eye candy, but nothing for us to take home. After failing to attract more than a few glances from the pretty ladies over the course of an hour or so, we took home a pair of chubby Vietnamese girls whose performance was quite lackluster.
I am trying to find another club in BKK to visit with the intention of enjoying the music, the hot ladies and scoring a beautiful Asian for a night of P4 P fun. We are not looking for a go-go bar, but we have no personal experience with a variety of bars that may suit our purposes (eg, Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte and Route 66 have all been recommended), but I just cannot tell if my top priority, ie, pulling a lady to bring back to my hotel, is likely to be accomplished. The advice of the community is requested.
By the way, although neither of us drinks, it did occur to me that we might do better buying a bottle of expensive whiskey and sitting at a table. That might attract some of the pretty ladies at Mixx (or it might attract their boyfriends). Does anyone have experience with this approach?Another Insanity vet here. Pre-covid days were just *different* !
Last night, after disparate ups and downs drinking with a few Nana gems, I was waiting outside for one to get changed after shift -- but time passes, and if you're not hungry, you get in the way. So after wandering around a bit, having a street beer I didn't need -- I was accosted by a tout making promises to come to "late night bar, many pretty girls!
RESIST! LOL.
After a longer than wanted ride, we rocked up to Honey, and the flashback of being there before all flooded back. Can't recall if it was pre-covid or 2021, but it was exactly the same: a smattering of losers (harsh epiphany notwithstanding!) of both genders -- the ladies kept waving at me to invite them, but I could only manage LOLs in response.
Currently making plans with Belvaros's lass for tonight. But PM me if or post if you chance upon a real FL club on a Monday night.
Big Daddy 1906
12-04-23, 13:22
The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.
Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.
Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.Less than 10 dollars ish. Depending on route and the of day.
Tvataham274
12-04-23, 14:56
Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?
Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?Vasu exchange right down Nana BTS station has very good rates on average.
There is also the exchange located between soi 18 and Exchange tower, on occasions they can even beat Vasu a little bit (at least for Euros).
Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?SuperRich at Asok BTS, but often long lines.
Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?I recommend Vasu on the corner of Suk and Soi 7/1. Or you could queue up for half an hour with the Chinese tourists at Super Rich in Asoke BTS station!
Yes, I read the FF, and I know it's been asked a while ago, but no answers. So here it is again:
I love to visit a BJ bar or massage parlor where I can see other guys being serviced or hear the bonking noises, with a potential peek. I love seeing girls at work.
Anyone can recommend a BJ bar or massage parlor that has that?
Thanks all!
Evan.Really, no place like this in BKK??
Banana Boi
12-04-23, 18:28
Really, no place like this in BKK??Wrong city. Go to the many Pattaya BJ bars and G clubs or better yet Germany AO and gangbang clubs.
Ulalaulala123
12-04-23, 19:21
In my Thailand trip last month I did DATY on a chick. Her pussy had a sweet taste. Is this a cause for worry or a symptom of a disease?
The girl was young around 24 yrs and I could not see any signs of disease on pussy or elsewhere. Checked everything under full hotel lights.
In my Thailand trip last month I did DATY on a chick. Her pussy had a sweet taste. Is this a cause for worry or a symptom of a disease?
The girl was young around 24 yrs and I could not see any signs of disease on pussy or elsewhere. Checked everything under full hotel lights.She was likely recently fucked by someone using a flavoured condom or lube. Hope for the former.
Ulalaulala123
12-04-23, 20:34
Ok, I also kissed her quite a lot after DATY. Maybe whatever it was in the pussy went back in her via her mouth heh heh.
She was likely recently fucked by someone using a flavoured condom or lube. Hope for the former.
In my Thailand trip last month I did DATY on a chick. Her pussy had a sweet taste. Is this a cause for worry or a symptom of a disease?
The girl was young around 24 yrs and I could not see any signs of disease on pussy or elsewhere. Checked everything under full hotel lights.Some of the new pussy "lubes / numbing agents" these WG use are flavored these days. Girl I had regularly in Vegas used a numbing lube because sex hurt her. It had a weird taste, but now some apparently are flavored FWIW.
YMMV.
The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.
Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.BigDaddy1906: LONG time since the Sand Box, hope you are well.
Probably easier to grab a taxi from your hotel rather than trying to get back to Don Muong and catch one from there. If there's a conference, hopefully taxis will be waiting around. Getting back, especially late at night, might be slightly problematic, no return fare. But, TIT, so a bit of extra should get you there. Last year, had to take a ride to the Thai Airways office out near the airport and it was around 300 baht and that was morning rush hours. Back in the day, I'd tell the driver "expressway" and I'd pay the tolls, but depending on the time, maybe not that much of an issue.
It does seem that the BTS Red Line goes to the airport (but then, you'd have to get to the airport), with a change to other lines to get to Nana or Asoke (Cowboy), and it does stop at midnight. NO personal experience, just google.
There is the Grab app, ride hailing, but I've never used.
Sure there is some marginal prospects out there, but I'd suggest hitting the bright lights.
If you haven't been, I'd definitely hit Sakura Akasuri up on Soi 55, short walk from Thong Lo BTS station (also Tulip). I go to Sakura for the scrub and salt tapping, with happy ending or B2B available, no personal experience with FS. FR's posted. For us old hands, Meet the World, Patpong 2, and their rugby scrum, likewise, FR's posted. Bier Garden, Soi 7, has joined Cyclone and Rattlesnake.
Like in "The Wild Bunch", "It ain't like the old days, but, ah, it'll do."
Cheers.
Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?I've found Super Rich in Basement of Emporium Mall to have good rates. Usually better than I find along Sukhumvit.
MamaGuevos
12-05-23, 04:27
Another Insanity vet here. Pre-covid days were just *different* !
Last night, /// we rocked up to Honey///. Can't recall if it was pre-covid or 2021, but it was exactly the same: a smattering of losers (harsh epiphany notwithstanding!) of both genders -- the ladies kept waving at me to invite them, but I could only manage LOLs in response.///PM me if or post if you chance upon a real FL club on a Monday night.Anyone have experience with Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte or Route 66?
Of course I will report back when I hit these clubs. Actually, I will only have time for one of the clubs, and I will probably try Sugar based on very little information that I have gleaned from google searches (unless I get some advice from someone here on the board).
Anyone have experience with Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte or Route 66?
Of course I will report back when I hit these clubs. Actually, I will only have time for one of the clubs, and I will probably try Sugar based on very little information that I have gleaned from google searches (unless I get some advice from someone here on the board).Last December, I tried Levels with three buddies. We ordered bottle service along with a table, but it was really boring nothing like Illusion in Phuket or Insomnia from a few years ago.
So I was 3 nights in BKK before going to Phuket and then 1 night before coming back home. I had sex all 4 nights: I had chosen a hotel near Nana to avoid any issue (4 Points Sheraton, very nice and cheap compared to western prices). First night I went to Thermae which, apart from the crowd (I might have gotten a cold in there as there were 200 people in a very small room) is heaven on earth. Ladies all in line, no BS they just tell you their price and you decide. The prettiest ask for 4 k, the ugliest for 2 k, the nice ones 3 k. I took one for 3 k and brought her to the hotel which was really round the corner (no questions asked from reception). Fairly quick thing but a nice one, good attitude from the girl although she was clearly faking it but at least it was a good fake. She asked for additional 300 for taxi, I gave her 200 and off she went. Second night went to Stocking Massage as I have a huge fetish for stocking. The place was a bit dodgy but the number of available girls was large, about 15. Many were a 3 or a 4 but you had a couple of 7 and an 8 which I chose. Massage was good and then a good session. All in all I came out happy although the room in which they put us was not so nice. Third night went to kokoro, I booked a specific girl and it was a bit of a disappointment as the AV dress up which they boast about is really just a little dress, the massage was a soapy one with lots of sponging you and soaping, some might like it but I did not. Finally we went on the bed and had a fairly average session where I had to come by myself as she was not arousing me so much. Final day had planned another massage place called honey bee but when I got there all girls were quite ugly, toured a few other places nearby and the only one where I found some beauties was called wonder massage. I paid for 1 HR but ended doing 45 minutes as the girl was pretty but clearly inexperienced. But at least she was a real real beauty. For my reports on Phuket please see the relevant thread. Ciao.
Only research I can do. You are welcome.
Nana Schoolgirl is very Lucent. Speaks clearly and understandable when not High.
Apparently she works for a Bar. 700 Barfine.
14,000 long time.
7,000 Short time. She classifies 2 Hours.
This is Soi 6 Pricing. Inside Joke for our Pattaya Members.
WTF is going on.
For reference Rainbow Superstar 1,000 baht barfine. 3,000 Shortime.
I've found Super Rich in Basement of Emporium Mall to have good rates. Usually better than I find along Sukhumvit.Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. How much you going to lose on $1,000, $2?
The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.
Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.Big Daddy, there has been a recommendation to you to head over to Patpong. Don't waste your time.
EverythingThai
12-05-23, 12:09
Another Insanity vet here. Pre-covid days were just *different* !
Last night, after disparate ups and downs drinking with a few Nana gems, I was waiting outside for one to get changed after shift -- but time passes, and if you're not hungry, you get in the way. So after wandering around a bit, having a street beer I didn't need -- I was accosted by a tout making promises to come to "late night bar, many pretty girls!
RESIST! LOL.
After a longer than wanted ride, we rocked up to Honey, and the flashback of being there before all flooded back. Can't recall if it was pre-covid or 2021, but it was exactly the same: a smattering of losers (harsh epiphany notwithstanding!) of both genders -- the ladies kept waving at me to invite them, but I could only manage LOLs in response.
Currently making plans with Belvaros's lass for tonight. But PM me if or post if you chance upon a real FL club on a Monday night.Never go with these guys. Bangkok has plenty to offer. If the bar needs these guys to find customers for them, there is something just not right, such as underage girls and drugs. You for sure want to stay clear of these types of places.
Big Daddy 1906
12-05-23, 12:15
BigDaddy1906: LONG time since the Sand Box, hope you are well.
Like in "The Wild Bunch", "It ain't like the old days, but, ah, it'll do."
Cheers.11 Bravo!! I can ALWAYS count on you to give me the "Dragnet" version. "Just the facts. ".
I had a feeling that the taxi rout would be the way to go. I just wanted to see if there were other viable options. I'm sure I can get a taxi from the hotel and I presume I can get one at Nana for the return trip. I'll keep you posted.
11 Bravo!! I can ALWAYS count on you to give me the "Dragnet" version. "Just the facts. ".
I had a feeling that the taxi rout would be the way to go. I just wanted to see if there were other viable options. I'm sure I can get a taxi from the hotel and I presume I can get one at Nana for the return trip. I'll keep you posted.Thanks for the "Dragnet" reference, old times.
One thing if you have all day to experiment with BTS / MRT line changes, but when your time is limited, and you have things to do, and I use things in the most general of contexts, I'd go with a taxi. Returning, you might get a refusal, I'd try again, and if a third, then I'd up the ante a bit. I think while I was there last month, they raised the authorized meter rate. I always check that the meter gets turned on, but if push came to shove, I'd go flat rate as long as it was not OTT. You might ask at the hotel's desk what the rate should be, and to avoid the "Nana" taint, say you want to check out the new mega mall, Emsphere (Sukhumvit, between soi 22 and Emporium). Also, being paranoid, I might not take the hotel's designated taxi (kickbacks) unless it was strictly meter. I usually just flag a passing one on the street. The girls will know the ST hotels. There used to be a very decent one on soi 7/1 (Sukhumvit), Atlas Hotel, hourly rates, used by the Bier Garden (RIP) ladies, but haven't used it for a long time. Can't say if it's still a valid ST hotel. Not too far down the soi, left hand side. In the same soi, Annies, but ONLY the NAME moved from the Rajah hotel original Annies. From what I've heard, no interest in visiting.
BTW, your mailbox is full.
IndianTuna
12-05-23, 16:05
Visited Wonder Massage and want to share the review here. First ever post, please be kind (TWSS).
Selection:
Visited at around 4 pm. The lady with the specs in the reception was very welcoming. Handed me a water bottle first and made me sit. About 30 secs later a round up of 5 girls. 2 of them caught my attention, went with a tall slim northern looking Thai girl. Name Violin (I did play her well).
Rates match their website.
Experience:
Once done with payment, the girl took me to the room and asked me to undress, while she also did. Real huge boobs and a slender figure, tiny ass. Was already starting to make my buddy a little hard.
The room was dimly lit and felt like my then dorm room with a tub, but neat and smelled nice. After that we went into the tub where she gave me a bath. She was really good with her slender and soft hands, made my expectations of the massage really high. Off to the bed after drying, I couldn't take my eyes off those huge boobs. She dried off and joined me.
She started with the back massage, boy her hands are amazing. The best massage in a soap house ever. She stopped for a while and played music from her phone, good relaxing English music, added to the whole dorm GFE experience I guess. We talked for a bit when she massaging my legs, she has great attitude and speaks English very well.
Off to a great CB, vacuum cleaner like suction- did a great job and my buddy was super hard. She rode me while I played with her boobs. Did it in a few positions she was horny and really wet, didn't need lube. Pussy was tight enough, I came doing doggy.
We chatted for a bit about Thailand and she was interested to know more about my country. Off to the 2nd round in about 10 minutes, did a few positions and I told her I wanted to cum on her boobs. She obliged and got on her knees. Deed done, chit chat while wearing clothes. She walked me till the lobby and we said our goodbyes.
Sex- 9/10.
Pussy - 8/10.
CB- 9/10.
Attitude - 10/10 (GFE).
Boobs- 10/10.
11 Bravo!! I can ALWAYS count on you to give me the "Dragnet" version. "Just the facts. ".
I had a feeling that the taxi rout would be the way to go. I just wanted to see if there were other viable options. I'm sure I can get a taxi from the hotel and I presume I can get one at Nana for the return trip. I'll keep you posted.For return trip you need to be on the EVEN Numbered side of Suk. Best place to catch a cab is in front of the Landmark.
Use Grab if you want to make it easy.
Member #4794
12-05-23, 21:24
Pussy - 8/10.
What metrics are we using here to rate the pussy? Oder, introitus width, and clitorial hood length?
Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. How much you going to lose on $1,000, $2?Out the back door of the Emporium Mall. As you were going to Mango Massage, but head back toward Sukhumvit. It is across the street from a 7/11, but isn't everything?
I'll try to find the exact name of the place. But they do US $,pounds, euros, all SEA currencies, Indian and of course Chinese & Yen. Probably Russian shit currency now, too?
Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. ... Well, yeah. That's why SuperRich is actually a pretty good answer. They aren't the absolute best rate in town, but they're always right up there near the top. Plus they're basically everywhere. No need to burn time running from exchange to exchange comparing rates. Just walk into most any upscale-ish mall (the street kisoks named 'SuperRich' are often fakes. Avoid.) and know you're getting a decent rate. Again not the absolute best rate, but you can be sure you're not getting clipped.
Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. How much you going to lose on $1,000, $2?I usually stay at the Hilton so it's super close to me. While walking I look at exchanges and yes while difference is small I look anyway just to see if my normal still has good rates. But no I don't shop for that little bit that some may do. However if exchange rate is good I will cash in some extra usd before leaving Bangkok Sometimes works and other times doesn't.
$2. 00 is two Dunkin Donuts.I'd rather give the $2 to a homeless street person then use it on dunkin' donuts.
Out the back door of the Emporium Mall. As you were going to Mango Massage, but head back toward Sukhumvit. It is across the street from a 7/11, but isn't everything? 555.
I'll try to find the exact name of the place. But they do US $,pounds, euros, all SEA currencies, Indian and of course Chinese & Yen. Probably Russian shit currency now, too?That's the name.
PM me if you want to meet up for a beer in BKK.
Planning to spend time in Nana Plaza and also check out Daisy Dream, Kokoro, La Belle, 7-heaven & Sakura Asakuri.
Speak basic Thai but haven't been for several years. Would be good to have a beer with fellow monger (s) & share experiences.
Visited Wonder Massage and want to share the review here. First ever post, please be kind (TWSS).
Selection:
Visited at around 4 pm. The lady with the specs in the reception was very welcoming. Handed me a water bottle first and made me sit. About 30 secs later a round up of 5 girls. 2 of them caught my attention, went with a tall slim northern looking Thai girl. Name Violin (I did play her well).
Rates match their website.
Experience:
Once done with payment, the girl took me to the room and asked me to undress, while she also did. Real huge boobs and a slender figure, tiny ass. Was already starting to make my buddy a little hard.After reading your post it made me think that 95% of the BJ's are in and out, in and out and not a SJ. A sucking job. As you said the vacuum sucking is a whole better experience. And for the most part women think it is a BJ not a SJ. The vocabulary has fucked up the experience.
VloneCarti
12-07-23, 00:20
Hi guys,
I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.
Hi guys,
I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.There are fat chicks everywhere.
It's not cheap here anymore.
Hi guys,
I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.Just Pattaya Soi 6. Lots of Thicc bad face girls. Cheap too.
Pro Tip. Don't start at 40 drinks. One is Fine.
Hahaha.
Member #4794
12-07-23, 11:56
I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas).You are going to be disappointed if you are not into the body shape of what lives in thailand. Just go where you know they live. To be completely honest I think the body shape you like is unattractive and I love what they offer here in and around SEA which is not "latinas".
Steve 9696
12-07-23, 17:15
Hi guys,
I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.Why in the world Thailand! Land of slim ladies. Brazil is where it's at for you! Not only do Brasileiras have that unique Brasileira bunda, they are tops in bed and MUCH more GFE on average than Thai girls. I have been almost everywhere and Brasileiras have the best attitude for guys like us on planet earth.
I like both Thai girls and Brasileiras (I am big on face, plus there are all sizes and shapes in Brasil) but if I was gonna choose where to retire for the best girl scene it would be Brasil hands down.
The girls are getting fatter in Thailand due to the western fast food and new generation's work ethic. LOL When I watch youtube videos it seems there are more fatties than before. I really need a som tam diet so I'm not so fluffy.
Why in the world Thailand! Land of slim ladies. Brazil is where it's at for you! Not only do Brasileiras have that unique Brasileira bunda,For body types, I prefer Thais over Brazilians.
I prefer that the girl's ass is smaller than my ass.
Steve 9696
12-07-23, 20:28
For body types, I prefer Thais over Brazilians.
I prefer that the girl's ass is smaller than my ass.To each his own. But the original poster said he liked Latinas and thus my post. That said I want to correct a common misconception for those guys that have never been to Brasil or seen the unique hips to waist ratio an amazing brasileira can have. Normally we all use thick as a euphemism for fat. Many Brasilian girls — actually the ones I prefer — are neither thick nor fat. They can be very slim but have and amazing curvy ass and hips to waist ratio you don't find elsewhere. Their ass is neither fat nor gym body hard. It is plump and round and firm and can attached to a quite skinny waist.
I've never encountered it outside Brasileiras. Neither colombianas nor Mexicanas are endowed this way in general. Met a Vennie in Spain who was. I think everyone should give it a spin. It's unique worldwide.
Banana Boi
12-07-23, 21:26
There are fat chicks everywhere.Best Asian countries ime for non fat girls would be Vietnam and Japan. Both countries full of slim girls in their early 20's. Unfortunately 2 of the most difficult countries to learn the ins and outs. Not sure how the Hong Kong scene is since haven't been recently.
Best SEA city for non fat curvy girls is Jakarta. Indo girls are generally more busty and stay slimmer than their SEA counterparts. They also have some hips unlike most slim Thai girls.
Pahllus Maximus
12-07-23, 21:36
Assuming the customer (who always cums first hahah) is not interested in 3rd world slums and / or filthy rural fuck hutches (ie the Philippines) and wants a decent city with restaurants, health care and well connected international jet airport:
Retail price range:
Bangkok: about THB 2,000 / USD 56.88.
Rio: about REAL 200 / USD 41.00.
Western Europe: about EUR 120-180.
There is huge variation in pricing whether longer term engagement, looks and how gullible / desperate the buyer is, but the above will get you hour with a do-able woman. Western Europe is done for, at least double the price and conditions galore. USA. Forget it!
My own view is Rio has the best in quality of service, range of ladies by body type and race, and price. BBJCIM and DFK are pretty standard and anal common. Both Thailand and Brasil are a long trip from Europe and USA, so it's not realistic as a weekend jaunt.
Axel Heyst
12-07-23, 22:11
For body types, I prefer Thais over Brazilians.
I prefer that the girl's ass is smaller than my ass.I am with you on that, brother, and I am turned off by fake breasts as well of which there is no shortage in LOS or Brazil. But I assure you there are plenty of slim ass Brazilian girls with beautiful natural breasts waiting for you to look their way. Ha Ha. Just check out Scandallo sometime and you will know what I am talking about.
So, the main reason I am back in SP for my 6th consecutive visit since covid, and I have not returned to BKK since 2019: is that on Average, Brazilian girls are better in bed, period! They are better lovers because they put more passion and physicality into their sex than your average Thai Go Go girl or massage girl. I really don't have an explanation for it other than it is most likely a cultural phenomenon, but perhaps part of the explanation for this is that Brazilian Boates, Termas, Clinicas, and Prive's exist mainly to satisfy and service Brazilian men and the local guys know how to keep the girls honest and unspoiled. Fortunately, Gringos (farangs – ha ha) are welcome in Brazilian bordellos. In other words, there is no segregated tourist market in Brazil. And that is a very big deal.
The only downside, of course, is Brazilian girls are even less likely to bareback than Thai girls, who and as we all know, are less likely to bareback than Khmer, Filipina, Burmese, and Indonesian girls.
Assuming the customer (who always cums first hahah) is not interested in 3rd world slums and / or filthy rural fuck hutches (ie the Philippines) and wants a decent city with restaurants, health care and well connected international jet airport:
My own view is Rio has the best in quality of service, range of ladies by body type and race, and price. BBJCIM and DFK are pretty standard and anal common. Both Thailand and Brasil are a long trip from Europe and USA, so it's not realistic as a weekend jaunt.Being in Oz a 8/9 HR flight to Thailand, Phil, etc is more palatable and cheaper than a flight to Europe, Brazil. Also if only Africa was closer too. Because I'm a spoilt brat and need to fly business 10 k just for airfares gets ridiculous too. Bali is 6 and a bit hrs away. Anyone coming to Oz forget cheap mongering here, average decent performer costs minimum 200 US an hour. I suppose that's one of the drawbacks of living in one of the BEST countrys in the world.
NI.
Axel Heyst
12-07-23, 22:42
Best Asian countries ime for non fat girls would be Vietnam and Japan. Both countries full of slim girls in their early 20's. Unfortunately 2 of the most difficult countries to learn the ins and outs. Not sure how the Hong Kong scene is since haven't been recently.
Best SEA city for non fat curvy girls is Jakarta. Indo girls are generally more busty and stay slimmer than their SEA counterparts. They also have some hips unlike most slim Thai girls.I totally agree, but Vietnam and Japan seem too complicated for me, too many rules and customs. Forgetaboutit! And Hong Kong is DEAD! It was my last Asian city on my last 2019 SE Asian trip. I went out on a Friday night and I could not find one doable girl in any of the former great Wan Chai bars that I used to enjoy so much back in the day. The Viets and Thai girls are gone! All that remains are over the hill, unattractive, overweight Filipinas. IMHO, the demise of Hong Kong is a fucking tragedy. KKK /555.
Oh well, it is time to get ready for this evenings Boate good times. Tchau and good hunting.
A. H. (Natty).
Why in the world Thailand! Land of slim ladies. Brazil is where it's at for you! Not only do Brasileiras have that unique Brasileira bunda, they are tops in bed and MUCH more GFE on average than Thai girls. I have been almost everywhere and Brasileiras have the best attitude for guys like us on planet earth.
I like both Thai girls and Brasileiras (I am big on face, plus there are all sizes and shapes in Brasil) but if I was gonna choose where to retire for the best girl scene it would be Brasil hands down.But one aspect is safety concerns. In Thailand you are pretty damn safe, period. But in South America you have to keep your head on a swivel.
I totally agree, but Vietnam and Japan seem too complicated for me, too many rules and customs. Forgetaboutit! And Hong Kong is DEAD! It was my last Asian city on my last 2019 SE Asian trip. I went out on a Friday night and I could not find one doable girl in any of the former great Wan Chai bars that I used to enjoy so much back in the day. The Viets and Thai girls are gone! All that remains are over the hill, unattractive, overweight Filipinas. IMHO, the demise of Hong Kong is a fucking tragedy. KKK /555.
Oh well, it is time to get ready for this evenings Boate good times. Tchau and good hunting.
A. H. (Natty).I live in HK and spend more time in Bangkok, Pattaya and even Sydney on the P4P. HK sucks for pussy outside of getting a tres expensive GF. And who wants a bloody GF.
Banana Boi
12-08-23, 01:58
but Vietnam and Japan seem too complicated for me, too many rules and customs. Forgetaboutit! I offer you my personal sex tour guide services. All I ask in return is a delicious bowl of udon / ramen ($4 US) or pho ($5 US).
Need to pry you away from Brazil back to Asia.
I am with you on that, brother, and I am turned off by fake breasts as well of which there is no shortage in LOS or Brazil. But I assure you there are plenty of slim ass Brazilian girls with beautiful natural breasts waiting for you to look their way. Ha Ha. Just check out Scandallo sometime and you will know what I am talking about.
So, the main reason I am back in SP for my 6th consecutive visit since covid, and I have not returned to BKK since 2019: is that on Average, Brazilian girls are better in bed, period! They are better lovers because they put more passion and physicality into their sex than your average Thai Go Go girl or massage girl. I really don't have an explanation for it other than it is most likely a cultural phenomenon, but perhaps part of the explanation for this is that Brazilian Boates, Termas, Clinicas, and Prive's exist mainly to satisfy and service Brazilian men and the local guys know how to keep the girls honest and unspoiled. Fortunately, Gringos (farangs ha ha) are welcome in Brazilian bordellos. In other words, there is no segregated tourist market in Brazil. And that is a very big deal.
The only downside, of course, is Brazilian girls are even less likely to bareback than Thai girls, who and as we all know, are less likely to bareback than Khmer, Filipina, Burmese, and Indonesian girls.The part I highlighted is exactly why Brasil has never been on my "Must Monger There" list. Far more than half of the personal testimonies about it that I have gotten from fellow mongers is about how getting BBFS+CIP / Real Sex and even a simple BBBJ+CIM from those supposed Brazilian hotties is very rare.
When it comes to P4P, even more annoying, a bigger buzz kill and a greater waste of time and money for me than to hit a wall of NO on Real Sex at the point of (no) entry with an average looker that I conveniently met right around the corner from where I live is to hit a wall NO at the point of (no) entry with a really hot girl that I went to extraordinary lengths to book flights and a hotel room to meet based on the great expectation that all these hotties will deliver the world's best sex and "GFE". LOL.
Captain Solo
12-08-23, 03:16
I would not go back to Brazil either. Girls don't look or act feminine and way too much crimes.
South and Central America are not good for sex, tourism, entertainment, food.
I gave guys tips to crack the sex markets in Mexico, Phil, Vietnam, Thailand.
I offer you my personal sex tour guide services. All I ask in return is a delicious bowl of udon / ramen ($4 US) or pho ($5 US).
Need to pry you away from Brazil back to Asia.I've heard foreigners have issues getting in clubs, massage parlours and generally accessing Wg's.
Share some secrte squirrel intel please.
NI.
Banana Boi
12-08-23, 07:49
I live in HK and spend more time in Bangkok, Pattaya and even Sydney on the P4P. HK sucks for pussy So all the 141's in Causeway Bay and Mongkok suck now too? That's really too bad. I was thinking about going through HK on a stopover to/from SEA in the Fall. I miss flying Cathay.
So all the 141's in Causeway Bay and Mongkok suck now too? That's really too bad. I was thinking about going through HK on a stopover to/from SEA in the Fall. I miss flying Cathay.Cathay is the bomb. Mates that play poker in Macau I'd be betetr off going over there. I may as well just do what I do and come back to BKK and Pattaya.
Assuming the customer (who always cums first hahah) is not interested in 3rd world slums and / or filthy rural fuck hutches (ie the Philippines) and wants a decent city with restaurants, health care and well connected international jet airport:
Retail price range:
Bangkok: about THB 2,000 / USD 56.88.
Rio: about REAL 200 / USD 41.00.
Western Europe: about EUR 120-180.
There is huge variation in pricing whether longer term engagement, looks and how gullible / desperate the buyer is, but the above will get you hour with a do-able woman. Western Europe is done for, at least double the price and conditions galore. USA. Forget it!
My own view is Rio has the best in quality of service, range of ladies by body type and race, and price. BBJCIM and DFK are pretty standard and anal common. Both Thailand and Brasil are a long trip from Europe and USA, so it's not realistic as a weekend jaunt.I assume this is for street, not bars / massage / etc.
MickeyDuck1208
12-08-23, 11:41
Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!
Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.
If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!!
Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!
Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.
If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!!Suk 55, On nut, all over. Stay centrally.
Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!
Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.
If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!!A lot of them seem to be at kokotel bkk (I believe theres two kokotel at bkk tho, not sure if the other one has ladies too), atleast from the two agencies that I tried out. You can notice it in some of their pictures they posted too. It has the hotels logo from the room. I recommend Baimon from Madam888, my fav so far.
MickeyDuck1208
12-08-23, 16:46
A lot of them seem to be at kokotel bkk (I believe theres two kokotel at bkk tho, not sure if the other one has ladies too), atleast from the two agencies that I tried out. You can notice it in some of their pictures they posted too. It has the hotels logo from the room. I recommend Baimon from Madam888, my fav so far.Kokotel Thonglor is where I had met one last time, but had not pinged anyone else. Good to know that is a haunt, thanks.
Suk 55, On nut, all over. Stay centrally.Got it, thanks.
So all the 141's in Causeway Bay and Mongkok suck now too? That's really too bad. I was thinking about going through HK on a stopover to/from SEA in the Fall. I miss flying Cathay.HK sucks for value for money p4 p mate. I don't bother very often and can't be bothered with trying for troublesome GF freebies.
But one aspect is safety concerns. In Thailand you are pretty damn safe, period. But in South America you have to keep your head on a swivel.I prefer the culture in Thailand and Cambodia to the culture in South American countries. That's primarily because I'm from the US, and have grown up and have been constantly exposed to Spanish culture forever. It's not interesting to me, nor particularly unique. And I speak New York Spanglish too.
Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!
Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.
If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!!Prices seem quite cheap? Are photos heavily airbrushed or fake? When you think a skanky FL on Suk Rd is asking for 2000 for ST, these prices for this quality seems a steal.
Is it because they are semi pro or?
NI.
Can someone explain what FIWfans is?
It seems you can get a girl for a cheap price.
I went to the website but it is fully written thai.
So I am guessing it is not meant for us?
Hi,
I was last night around Nana Palace.
I saw several woman wearing nihab offering sex. Is this as Scampi or real?
Prices seem quite cheap? Are photos heavily airbrushed or fake? When you think a skanky FL on Suk Rd is asking for 2000 for ST, these prices for this quality seems a steal.
Is it because they are semi pro or?
NI.Prices do seem out of Whack. By a large amount.
Prices seem quite cheap? Are photos heavily airbrushed or fake? When you think a skanky FL on Suk Rd is asking for 2000 for ST, these prices for this quality seems a steal.
Is it because they are semi pro or?
NI.In my experiences with fiwi fans what you see on the screen is not necessarily what you get.
1st time looking at Noodle Lady Livestream.
Hot or Not.
Only 2 choices.
I'd have to swipe NOT.
Banana Boi
12-09-23, 15:20
HK sucks for value for money p4 p mate. I'm not concerned about the value part since I'll be a 1 to 2 week millionaire. If money is out of the picture does the scene still suck?
Can someone explain what FIWfans is?
It seems you can get a girl for a cheap price.
I went to the website but it is fully written thai.
So I am guessing it is not meant for us?This site I saw mentioned has most of the ladies from FF, https://www.bkkline.com/en.
There is a lot of airbrushing on the photos some more than others, especially making their skin lighter. From my experience the really cheap ones like 1100 are cheap for a reason. Maybe if you know some thai you would get better service.
I'm not concerned about the value part since I'll be a 1 to 2 week millionaire. If money is out of the picture does the scene still suck?Like most things in this WAR we fight mate, YMMV. There are some absolute stunners at bars in hotels looking for other $$ from predominantly SEA blokes. I was quoted US $800 for an absolute 10/10 girl who turned out to be Hungarian, but she spoke with little or no accent. FWIW, I rarely go to the old RLDs but if you have game there are semi pros and freebies in the hotels, shopping malls, restaurants and other.
Given the cost of hotels, the pussy prices probably aren't that bad (say $850-1500 a night at the Mandarin Oriental HK vs $250 per night at the Hilton Pattaya equates to 3/1-6/1 price vig for pussy so that would be about right).
I have used asiandate and other online but there are so many weeds to go through to find a nice piece of GR (ASS). I know guys who use various online sites but still get ridiculous quotes.
I have taken Chinese / other Asian ladies, one or 2 Romanian, French, even Moroccan girls home from PDT bar and Mo Bar (Landmark Mandarin) and paid some big $$ I've also had a few freebies who became girlfriends but then like most free women became too demanding and $ driven.
I'm not concerned about the value part since I'll be a 1 to 2 week millionaire. If money is out of the picture does the scene still suck?Those high end bars I mentioned charge like $150 HK up for cocktails, Irish Whiskey from around $120 HK etc but there is some HOT WOMEN for sure after 8 pm.
There are similar opportunities in other hotel bars, I've tried or watched the scenes at; Sheraton, Regent, 4 Seasons, Peninsula (MILF / GILF), but because I live here I have plenty of time to research and try each out. For a 1 week business trip hou may be better using your tried and true methods.
Member #4794
12-10-23, 00:54
There is a lot of airbrushing on the photos some more than others, especially making their skin lighter.This is only going to get worse with AI being more prevalent I would like to see some of these services offer a "no filter" option so that we know what to expect. Even if it involves a subscription fee or VIP status. It's fine if the girls do it on their own personal page but when you are selling something kind of false advertising if they alter their appearance. At least in the context of working girls.
Prices do seem out of Whack. By a large amount.It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.
MamaGuevos
12-10-23, 01:50
I assume this is for street, not bars / massage / etc.The prices of the girls vary widely. I am interested in Thai Friendly girls, and some of the me quote me 3000ST, others 2500ST (most common), 3000 LT, 10000 LT, etc.
I think that every girl has her price, like every guy has his price point. I have to say that if I knew of a beautiful girl who was completely GFE (let me define this as BBBJ, DFK, BBFS, sex whenever I am interested +/- anal), I would be willing to pay top dollar. I can find plenty of beautiful freelancers on ThaiFriendly, but performance is hard to know ahead of time, no matter what is promised. But finding the perfect girl is all part of the fun (as long as one has the time). Usually, when I am there for 7-10 days, I find one or two who are willing to do everything I want. And, of course, Thai women are typically gorgeous.
I have long thought it is a shame that the ISG isn't like gpguia.net (a Brazilian website that is a bit like ***). EVERY girl that is reviewed has a mark for DFK, BBBJ and anal. This would go a long way to helping mongers make decisions. It would be good if the reviews on this site were a little more informative (and, if there were a lot less reminiscing about the good old days when girls were almost free and all of them were beautiful and gave BBFS).
Can someone explain what FIWfans is?
It seems you can get a girl for a cheap price.I went to the website but it is fully written thai.So I am guessing it is not meant for us?Be interested in anyone's experiences with this. Esp in my mind its prob easier to got to a bar or FL there and then. Wouldn't want to travel then turn up and walk because pic are not accurate or some other kind of bait & switch.
NI.
Llantarnam
12-10-23, 04:32
Just arrived in Thailand for first time since March, with my 3 weeks stay being split between BKK and Hua Hin. Some initial observations on what's changed in the last 9 months:
1) I normally stay on Soi 8 and sometimes walk across the road and up Soi 11. There was a growing number of small beer bars on the left hand side of the road, but they have all gone (to be replaced by a big hoarding prior to some large office block appearing?)
2) The Beer Garden on Soi 7 is gone, to be replaced by lots of little bright shiny beer bars (perhaps those from Soi 11 have relocated). Place looks a bit of a mess.
3) Lots of black girls offering their services outside the Novotel on Soi 4. Mostly average looking.
4) Chating with girls on TF. Most from BKK looking for around 3 k, those from HH appear happy with 1.5 k.
5) Lots of nice looking girls outside Thermae. I'm the wrong side of 60 and English, but all the girls I made eye contact with smiled at me (and would probably have done a turn if I was interested).
To help shake off the jet lag I tried Wood bar on Soi 7 for a BJ (never been before). OK service but nothing special. What do you expect for 800 B.
Hi,
I was last night around Nana Palace.
I saw several woman wearing nihab offering sex. Is this as Scampi or real?Are you talking about the fat things that hang out further down the street? They are monsters.
It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.Which is why I get the majority of my gash at Thermae.
Be interested in anyone's experiences with this. Esp in my mind its prob easier to got to a bar or FL there and then. Wouldn't want to travel then turn up and walk because pic are not accurate or some other kind of bait & switch.
NI.Well a brief review of the forum will tell you all you want to know about it. There are folks here that like it and there are folks here that think it's a waste. If you live here, know your way around, know the game, it's worth it if you're willing to put the time in. If you don't live here, it's throwing the dice. You could very well end up in the middle of nowhere with some 45-year-old that was 21 online.
Just arrived in Thailand for first time since March, with my 3 weeks stay being split between BKK and Hua Hin. Some initial observations on what's changed in the last 9 months:
1) I normally stay on Soi 8 and sometimes walk across the road and up Soi 11. There was a growing number of small beer bars on the left hand side of the road, but they have all gone (to be replaced by a big hoarding prior to some large office block appearing?)
2) The Beer Garden on Soi 7 is gone, to be replaced by lots of little bright shiny beer bars (perhaps those from Soi 11 have relocated). Place looks a bit of a mess.
3) Lots of black girls offering their services outside the Novotel on Soi 4. Mostly average looking.
4) Chating with girls on TF. Most from BKK looking for around 3 k, those from HH appear happy with 1.5 k.
5) Lots of nice looking girls outside Thermae. I'm the wrong side of 60 and English, but all the girls I made eye contact with smiled at me (and would probably have done a turn if I was interested).
To help shake off the jet lag I tried Wood bar on Soi 7 for a BJ (never been before). OK service but nothing special. What do you expect for 800 B.Wow when I left two weeks ago or so the beer garden was still there LOL.
2) The Beer Garden on Soi 7 is gone, to be replaced by lots of little bright shiny beer bars (perhaps those from Soi 11 have relocated). Place looks a bit of a mess.Actually, it's still there (just like Annies still exists... in name only). If you go to the far end of the bar area, to the fence on the alley down to Soi 5, and look CLOSE, that's what the Beer Garden has SHRUNK to. A small horseshoe bar, Beer Garden sign above, with a couple of pool tables in front. When I was there last month, some other members of my generation were spotted walking down soi 7, looking around, rather bemused. Mamasan went running out to the street with a "It's here, it's here, this is the Beer Garden". Well, at least its tombstone. Another way to spot: if you remember the alter and the tree at the OLD garden's entrance? The tree is still there (though Mamasan said the other tree had been cut down - "for money").
To help shake off the jet lag I tried Wood bar on Soi 7 for a BJ (never been before). OK service but nothing special. What do you expect for 800 B.IMHO, for jet lag, a better option is the MRT to Silom, and Meet the World on Patpong Soi 2. Ring the bell, rugby scrum.
It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.Yep.
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