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Mari1256
12-10-23, 07:55
Thank you again, 11 Bravo, your post really make sense!

I shook off my jet lag today at Meet the World, didn't have to ring. Lady outside; 3 more inside. Age range 25 to 40, no stunners but very doable. And because I was first client today, three of them squirmed all over me at the bar; boobs everywhere, and at least two hands in my pants. Thought, WTF, I'll take all three of them to the couch. They rapidly undressed me, and took turns blowing, working my nipples and DFK. I have had better blowjobs, but it was not wrong, and three enthousiastic ladies at one time made come rrather quick.

The old lady behind the bar tried to scam me for 4000, but I worked it down to 2500, and finished my coke, surrounded by the crew asking to come back to boom-boom them all.

Neighbourhood was more than dead.

Mari1256
12-10-23, 12:00
Jet lag ws not over after my visit to Meet the World this morning; after a shower in my soi 4 hotel, on the road again, walked past Kasalong and saw a young and slim pretty lady outside between the not so young and not so slim, but further Ok ladies. Took my chance and she was good, with a lot of feeling, and deep!

Wanted a some rest afterwards and the idea of a relaxing massage was attractive, a normal one, and decided to visit Nang Seeda, underneath the Nana BTS station; have passed there often before, and was always impressed by the line-up outside, lookers, young and more mature. And because they're al wearing uniform black, I had the idea it was just regular massage. And it was to start with, but very shortly after turning on my back, the very attractive lady whose name I have not remembered, offered me even BBFS for an extra 2000, above the regular 500. I politely thanked her and promised to come back quickly (I'm almost 70 and it was a hell of a day) But returning to Bangkok couldn't be better.

Nyezhov
12-10-23, 12:10
Thank you again, 11 Bravo, your post really make sense!

I shook off my jet lag today at Meet the World, didn't have to ring. Lady outside; 3 more inside. Age range 25 to 40, no stunners but very doable. And because I was first client today, three of them squirmed all over me at the bar; boobs everywhere, and at least two hands in my pants. Thought, WTF, I'll take all three of them to the couch. They rapidly undressed me, and took turns blowing, working my nipples and DFK. I have had better blowjobs, but it was not wrong, and three enthousiastic ladies at one time made come rrather quick.

The old lady behind the bar tried to scam me for 4000, but I worked it down to 2500, and finished my coke, surrounded by the crew asking to come back to boom-boom them all.

Neighbourhood was more than dead.2500 for a hag BJ, no wonder the girls think punters are idiots.

Rip off.

Forty Drinks
12-11-23, 02:22
Is it me or is our Precious Schoolgirl starting to look and smell PUTRID. Hahahahaha.

Mari1256
12-11-23, 03:26
2500 for a hag BJ, no wonder the girls think punters are idiots.

Rip off.You're overreacting; 2500 for a 45 minute session with 3 girls + 4 drinks is not so bad.

Nyezhov
12-11-23, 03:27
Jet lag ws not over after my visit to Meet the World this morning; after a shower in my soi 4 hotel, on the road again, walked past Kasalong and saw a young and slim pretty lady outside between the not so young and not so slim, but further Ok ladies. Took my chance and she was good, with a lot of feeling, and deep!

Wanted a some rest afterwards and the idea of a relaxing massage was attractive, a normal one, and decided to visit Nang Seeda, underneath the Nana BTS station; have passed there often before, and was always impressed by the line-up outside, lookers, young and more mature. And because they're al wearing uniform black, I had the idea it was just regular massage. And it was to start with, but very shortly after turning on my back, the very attractive lady whose name I have not remembered, offered me even BBFS for an extra 2000, above the regular 500. I politely thanked her and promised to come back quickly (I'm almost 70 and it was a hell of a day) But returning to Bangkok couldn't be better.Whoa there Cowboy, are you reporting a young quality mouth at Kasalong? What time in the morning was this? Kasalong is notorious for hags, you may have found a rarity.

I have to go out in this nasty air tomorrow, and I may walk past there. I got a BJ on Soi 7/1 earlier this year from a attractive girl so it can happen.

I hope you paid only these standard 800. You got ripped off at Meet the World, which for newbies is a place that you don't want to go.

Nyezhov
12-11-23, 03:39
You're overreacting; 2500 for a 45 minute session with 3 girls + 4 drinks is not so bad.Your money your fun. I hope other people don't make your mistake.

11Bravo
12-11-23, 08:26
The old lady behind the bar tried to scam me for 4000, but I worked it down to 2500, and finished my coke, surrounded by the crew asking to come back to boom-boom them all.Yep, Granny likes to put her own prices on the tab, but at least there's a tab to see. The heavyset Mamasan is legit, and you did get the going price: 800/ BBBJ / per lady, lady drink 150, Singha 100 (though I've paid 150). If you buy a lady drink, she will strip. Ringing the bell gets the nude rugby scrum. Granny will try and charge 1500 FS, but it's 1200. Word of caution: the mattress on the bed looks solid, but it does have its potholes. I like the music, a fan blowing directly on you is good enough a/c, and it is definitely old school BKK vibe. And for 2500 for 3 ladies, 4 drinks - great deal.

MTW: not for everyone, but then again, I'm not everyone. It pleases the one who matters, me.

Llantarnam
12-11-23, 09:08
Actually, it's still there (just like Annies still exists... in name only). If you go to the far end of the bar area, to the fence on the alley down to Soi 5, and look CLOSE, that's what the Beer Garden has SHRUNK to. A small horseshoe bar, Beer Garden sign above, with a couple of pool tables in front. When I was there last month, some other members of my generation were spotted walking down soi 7, looking around, rather bemused. Mamasan went running out to the street with a "It's here, it's here, this is the Beer Garden". Well, at least its tombstone. Another way to spot: if you remember the alter and the tree at the OLD garden's entrance? The tree is still there (though Mamasan said the other tree had been cut down - "for money").

IMHO, for jet lag, a better option is the MRT to Silom, and Meet the World on Patpong Soi 2. Ring the bell, rugby scrum.

Yep.I saw the sign, but didn't go right to the end. I assumed it was just a gravestone marking the burial place of an old friend.

ThaiGoodTimes
12-11-23, 09:50
Jet lag ws not over after my visit to Meet the World this morning; after a shower in my soi 4 hotel, on the road again, walked past Kasalong and saw a young and slim pretty lady outside between the not so young and not so slim, but further Ok ladies. Took my chance and she was good, with a lot of feeling, and deep!

Wanted a some rest afterwards and the idea of a relaxing massage was attractive, a normal one, and decided to visit Nang Seeda, underneath the Nana BTS station; have passed there often before, and was always impressed by the line-up outside, lookers, young and more mature. And because they're al wearing uniform black, I had the idea it was just regular massage. And it was to start with, but very shortly after turning on my back, the very attractive lady whose name I have not remembered, offered me even BBFS for an extra 2000, above the regular 500. I politely thanked her and promised to come back quickly (I'm almost 70 and it was a hell of a day) But returning to Bangkok couldn't be better.That's a very good price for Nang Seeda.

It takes a lot of hard bargaining to get FS down to 2000 once inside, and they previously have been totally unwilling to discuss extras at all out on the street.

11Bravo
12-11-23, 11:10
I saw the sign, but didn't go right to the end. I assumed it was just a gravestone marking the burial place of an old friend.I too saw the large sign over the complex, still there, so went looking for it. I was just about to give up when the mamasan bartender came running out, "Beer Garden is HERE". It was, and I feel sorry for whoever bought the name. I had a drink for old times sake and inquired about a t-shirt, but not my size. And I agree, it's now a shrine to some fond memories of some good times. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did in that location.

Axel Heyst
12-11-23, 14:34
It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.Yes, it really is sad. And it is of little consolation that prices in similar venues elsewhere have doubled or tripled too. This is price gouging. Plain and simple. I mean what is the rate of inflation in Thailand? Nevermind. We all can see that Pussy enjoys is very inelastic demand curve. I hear the Go Go's are still packed with customers. Amazing! But sooner or later this uncontrolled greed will kill the golden goose. I don't know when or at what price the market will peak and then break, but the economic law of supply and demand always wins in the end. Anybody remember the Amsterdam tulip bubble?

HornyForker
12-11-23, 16:52
Hi, I was last night around Nana Palace. I saw several woman wearing nihab offering sex. Is this as Scampi or real?


Are you talking about the fat things that hang out further down the street? They are monsters.ROFL. I too spotted them and had my suspicions. I guess they may be trying to appeal to a certain demographic or fantasy. Not really my thing but it was entertaining to see. I also believe some may have been LBs.

Mari1256
12-11-23, 16:53
I may be not completely sane, but in between all the exposed bodies, I have seen some hijab ladies hanging around close to the Novotel on Soi 4. They do excite me, there was one report on one of them in 2022, but are there more recent experiences to be told? Of course I can try for myself, which I probably will anyhow.

Captain Solo
12-11-23, 17:38
Lcal,

Thanks for the new info.

Looks like Mickey take her profile from FIWFANS and post it as independent in BKKLINE. She seems to complain FIWFANS sends little business, admin is slow, she's answering LINE herself and not going through them. I have no idea how things work in this area. FIWFANS handlers wrote back in good English, were quick and reliable, but I want to try independents as they would not have to pay a cut to handlers.

Translation from Thai text may have been misinterpreted and hard to understand. Any bro who can read Thai please shed some light into this new venue.

https://www.bkkline.com/en/sideline/406radnb0krcx1mwo

"Mickey ม3636;3588;3585;3637;3657; Bangkok Lat Phrao.

Ladprao, Ratchada, Ratchayothin, Ramintra, Pinklao, Sena Khet Buengkum. Serithai, Siam Park, Min Buri, Ramintra, Fashion Island, Buengkum, Lat Phrao, Kaset Nawamin Ratchada, Thonglor, Sukhumvit, Asoke, Silom, Huai Khwang, Bangna, On Nut, Wanghin Phetkasem.

Prices starting at ฿2000.

ID line: at 129 qugkk.

Yes, new line, old one, full of very little work.

Getting the Phil Fan job doesn't speed up time, of course. I took the job myself, I don't have an admin. My job on the web is just a side job from my main job.

I'm sorry about the delay".


This site I saw mentioned has most of the ladies from FF, https://www.bkkline.com/en.

There is a lot of airbrushing on the photos some more than others, especially making their skin lighter. From my experience the really cheap ones like 1100 are cheap for a reason. Maybe if you know some thai you would get better service.

Member #4794
12-12-23, 00:06
Looks like Mickey....Tbh "Mickey" doesn't even look human in those photos.

Goatscrot
12-12-23, 02:19
Lcal,

Thanks for the new info.

Looks like Mickey take her profile from FIWFANS and post it as independent in BKKLINE. She seems to complain FIWFANS sends little business, admin is slow, she's answering LINE herself and not going through them. I have no idea how things work in this area. FIWFANS handlers wrote back in good English, were quick and reliable, but I want to try independents as they would not have to pay a cut to handlers.

Translation from Thai text may have been misinterpreted and hard to understand. Any bro who can read Thai please shed some light into this new venue.

https://www.bkkline.com/en/sideline/406radnb0krcx1mwo

"Mickey ม3636;3588;3585;3637;3657; Bangkok Lat Phrao.

Ladprao, Ratchada, Ratchayothin, Ramintra, Pinklao, Sena Khet Buengkum. Serithai, Siam Park, Min Buri, Ramintra, Fashion Island, Buengkum, Lat Phrao, Kaset Nawamin Ratchada, Thonglor, Sukhumvit, Asoke, Silom, Huai Khwang, Bangna, On Nut, Wanghin Phetkasem.

Prices starting at ฿2000.

ID line: at 129 qugkk.

Yes, new line, old one, full of very little work.

Getting the Phil Fan job doesn't speed up time, of course. I took the job myself, I don't have an admin. My job on the web is just a side job from my main job.

I'm sorry about the delay".She it was not getting much business on fiwfans because her prices are way above the majority. And she's going to have the same problem on that site. Most of the gals on bkkline are also on fiwfans and for sure handled by the same agent. Agents post on multiple websites.

Nyezhov
12-12-23, 03:28
I may be not completely sane, but in between all the exposed bodies, I have seen some hijab ladies hanging around close to the Novotel on Soi 4. They do excite me, there was one report on one of them in 2022, but are there more recent experiences to be told? Of course I can try for myself, which I probably will anyhow.Please give us a full report if you do. Make sure you note the extent of body hair, fat rolls, cellulite and breast droop / deflation. Don't be one of those dudes to just pull up the burka, bend her over and go at it. We need a full description, and then if it's beautifully detailed, I personally will nominate you for monger of the century.

You have already hit the bottom of the barrel at meet the world, now you need to really show as how low you can go. The only thing left would be the toothless ones down around Sanam Luang to put you into the Gutter Crawling Hall of Fame.

Sonic Bam
12-12-23, 03:34
I arrived in Bangkok yesterday and was tired, not up for the jet-lag busting debauchery some people go for. I wanted a long and slow erotic massage and found Namaste online, everything arranged through Line. Them is the masseuse, 39 yrs old according to web page, and works from an apartment a LONG way down Soi 22. The massage was exactly what I wanted. Slow and sensual, almost GFE, really good HJ finish followed by more light massage. No BJ or full sex, panties stay on throughout. Service exactly as described on website. 2500 BHT for 90 minutes. Good for me, YMMV. https://namaste-tantra-bangkok.com/.

Nyezhov
12-12-23, 03:52
I just got back from a dry spell in Siem Reap, as is generally the case there, so I have been itching for some action. Unfortunately, my time back has been consumed with ordinary day-to-day stuff, which combined with the air has kept me away from the flesh pots. So I decided to pollute my lungs and get the hell out of the house last night, Monday.

My original plan was to warm up at a Go-Go to check out the talent, then do a 7/1 evaluation, then finish up at Thermae and Grab a train home. So I got to the Go-Go's early.

I stopped at my dudes weed stand Right there on the corner of soy Arab and grabbed a little bud. Far as I am concerned, as an American Stoner, he's the first place to go to if you're looking for we down there. Same stuff, lower price. And he doesn't give you scrapings in his pre-rolls like some of the other shops do.

After shooting the shit for a while, I walked over to Nana. There was a paucity of the usual street vendors for the last 50 m before Nana entrance, I assume that was because it's Monday, not because they're cleaning that portion of the sidewalk up. Schoolgirl was right at the Nana entrance wearing the same clothes I saw her wearing the last time I was down there. I hope she washes them. There was a good supply of deaf girls across the street. Remember this was early. 21:00 ish.

After a Coke and a smoke in the center bar, I popped into Bunnies. There was some cute young stuff in there, The mamasan told me though that they were new and she doesn't yet know how "naughty" they are.

I then went up to Billboard and they had the be team working on a Monday night. Not only was there a lack of quality, there were some uglies.

There was nothing to strike my eye and twisters nor in geisha.

Rainbow 5 had a nice percentage of hotties. There was a girl there and of course I can't remember her number that had the nicest body I have ever seen. I remember her from a month or so ago because her ass was so spectacular but it looks like she has some boobs now. I didn't know they heal that fast I've only been gone 3 weeks. On the other hand, when you look up close to her, her complexion is horrible under the makeup. Even though she's cute.

I bar find another one out of rainbow just because she really struck my eye and it was 3,000 for her and a thousand for the bar. Unlike billboard, you don't need to pay the Mamasan. She was a damn good time too.

I was tired out after my exertions so I kissed my date goodbye on ladyboy corner near the 7-Eleven and flagged down a TukTuk for a ride up to terminal 21 where I got a last minute pizza fix at Palo and hopped on the train.

Although I was watching it from the tuk tuk, I would say that there was a paucity of street stuff On the way up to terminal 21, except by Thermae.

That's your on the ground report for a smoggy Monday.

LifeIsLimited
12-12-23, 12:47
Here's my report for 4 days in Bangkok from the end of November:

Hotel:

I stayed at La petite Salil on Soi 11 and mostly for the ease of access to Sukhumvit. Room is a bit small, but you get what you pay for. No questions when bringing guest in.

Money:

I arrived slightly after midnight, so I pulled money from the ATM at the BKK using Schwab debit card.

I also used the SuperRich for money exchange since I had cash on-hand. I used the one at Asoke BTS once. I also used the one at MRT Sukhumvit (because Asoke BTS had a long line), which had no line and slightly better rate.

Plan in General:

I read the posts on this forum and went back for like the prior 6 months, so that gave me enough information to explore.

My general plan was to do tourist stuff during the day, and then out mongering at night. I know BJ bar isn't my thing, so my focus was on freelancer and gogo.

Day 1 - Thursday:

I arrived slightly after midnight and it took over 1. 5 hours from landing to get out of the BKK. The Airport Rail Link stops at midnight, so I took a taxi to the hotel. I asked the driver to run the meter, but he wanted tips beyond that. It was late and I was tired, so I just forked over ฿400 plus toll.

I went out at around 9 pm to Thermae. The place was pretty much packed. The girls stood along the sides and middle of the room; and the guys walked around in clockwise. It is like a human carousel. Lots of girls in 20's-30's, but some were older. I would say the quality was averaging around 6 or 7. I didn't see any stunner that I must have.

Once you get in, you have to buy a drink and I got a coke for ฿80. The girls were definitely prefer Japanese and Korean guys. The girls would try to pull them aside.

Since this was my first time there, I circled around a bit and tried to get a good look of the girls. There were so many choices, so I was hanging around for like 2 hours. LOL.

I was quoted ฿2500ST from this one girl. She spoke some broken English and said she is a mix of Thai and French. We chatted a bit and took a taxi back to my hotel.

She undressed and said she would shower first. Once she was done, then I showered next. After the shower, we caressed and kissed, and then went to the bed. She has nice perky tits that was my cup of tea. She kissed my body, gave BBBJ, put the condom on, then we mished. In the end, I finished in the bag with her in CG. We chilled a bit, then she went back to shower and left. And since I didn't have change, I just gave her ฿3000.

Lessons learned = Keep smaller bills.

Damage = ฿80 Drink + ฿2500ST + ฿500 Tip (since I didn't have change).

Day 2 - Friday:

I did too many tourist stuff until late in the evening. And since I was starving, I also went for the AYCE Korean BBQ. I didn't get out until like 11:30 pm.

I walked to Nana Plaza and peeked into Rainbow 4, Rainbow 5, Butterflies, and Billboard. All the mama-sans and waiters wanted to get you to take a seat and buy drinks. I tried to take a look of the talents before taking a seat. I ended up settled in Rainbow 5.

I sat down and ordered a drink (3647;165). And as soon as I ordered my drink, the girl I was eyeing got pulled by another guy. I just watched the girls dancing on stage and tried to find another one. After awhile, I saw another one I liked.

I asked the mama-san for that girl to sit with me. I also asked her if that girl can be barfined later on. She misunderstood me that I wanted to go straight to barfining her; but it was late and I just went straight to ฿4000ST plus ฿1000 barfine. The waiter also wanted a tip and I gave her ฿100 since I didn't have change. I was told that I have to pay the entire amount first, so I did. After that, the girl changed into regular cloths and we left.

I tried to talk to her as we go to my hotel, but she didn't seem to understand English and was just on the social media the whole taxi ride back. Once we were back at the hotel, she showered first and then I showered after. She then wanted to turn off light and I asked to keep one light on. She only wanted to do CBJ. The experience was very mechanical and she just seems uninterested. At that point, I just cut my losses and finish the deed.

Lessons learned = Don't do take out unless after talking to the girl.

Damage = ฿165 Drink + ฿4000ST + ฿1000 BF + ฿100 Waiter Tip.

Day 3 - Saturday:

Since I didn't have a good experience the previous night, I went back to Thermae for Day 3 as I know what to expect.

I got to Thermae at around 10 pm to Thermae. The place was as busy as Thursday. I was quoted ฿3000ST from this one girl. She spoke little English, but was tiny and looked very cute. We chatted a bit and walked back to my hotel.

We showered separately. After the shower, she gave BBBJ, but it was a bit toothy. So, I suited up and we did CG and doggy. Once we are done, she went back to shower and left.

Damage = ฿80 Drink + ฿3000ST.

Day 4 - Sunday:

I wanted to try Nana Plaza one more time. I went to Billboard to watch the girls in the bath, but didn't find anyone I like.

Then, I moved on to Geisha. I saw this one girl I liked, so I sat down, ordered a drink (3647;170), and asked the mama-san to pull her off the stage. I brought her one drink (3647;220); but mama-san also insisted on needing one, so I gave in for another ฿220. She chatted a little, then she danced on top of me and let my hand roam feel.

After awhile, mama-san asked if I want to barfine. I was quoted ฿3000 for 2 hours plus ฿1000 barfine. The vibe was good and I went for it.

We showered separately. After the shower, she laid on the bed and let me play with her. I started with kissing her body and then start fingering and DATY. She was shy, but also seems to enjoy it and was very wet. After awhile, I suited up to mish and finished with CG. After I was done, I continue to play with tits and fingering her. After about 1. 5 hours, she kept getting calls from her "sister" (which I think was her mama-san to call her back). I was very satisfied and just let her go.

Damage = ฿170 Drink + ฿440 LD + ฿3000ST + ฿1000 BF + ฿20 Waiter Tip.

Thanks for the past reports from others, and hope this report help someone in the future.

Grebe925
12-12-23, 18:23
Was in Bangkok last week. Didn't sample much but did a trip to Maria's massage last Wednesday at about 7 PM. A guy greeted and guided me to the display area. There were probably over 50 ladies, mostly 6's and 7's in my estimation so I don't know why the prices are so steep. Weirdest thing was there were quite a number of 5's in the ultra high category (10 K Baht plus) and couldn't understand who would pick them at that price. Lots of Asian guys and just me as an Indian representative. Papasan kept directing me to a lady in black but in the end picked a next door type cute beauty (I would say 8) for 9000 Baht. Usual soapy stuff with a vigorous tit massage in the tub and sex in many positions on the bed. She was quite co-operative with the right amount of chirpiness and I left satisfied. Went to Thermae last Friday and the place was like a zoo with equal number of ladies and punters. Saw a real cutie who was snapped up within minutes after entering by a pair of Asian guys but the rest of them ranged from 5-7's with a few 8's. None caught my eye and I left after a beer. That was about it for the trip but Bangkok has definitely picked up like crazy after my last trip in January or so.

Mari1256
12-12-23, 19:32
We need a full description, and then if it's beautifully detailed, I personally will nominate you for monger of the century.

You have already hit the bottom of the barrel at meet the world, now you need to really show as how low you can go. .Actually I really do not need to be monger of the century, so I will not make my report beautifully detailed. I love beautiful, hot women, all kinds of them, but I have always been attracted to the sleazy, dirty side as well. No reason that the two cannot exist next to each other.

But I did not reach rock bottom this time; actually it was a rather decent pick-up. There were 3 of these "Burkha Babes" as you describe them, and I spoke to the one that looked at first sight tall not too large and 30 ish. She spoke pretty good english, said she was from Egypt and emphasized that she was "well-educated" Wanted 2000 for ST, but it was not difficult to bargain that back to 1500. Walking back to the hotel hand in hand with a hijab woman was eery, but I could see the fun of that. In my room all the black coth dissappeared and there were no fat rolls, no deflated saggy breasts, no cellulitis, and just a toch of pubic hair. Remained a rather plain, tall woman, that was eager to please. And she did her best, her blowjob was soft and above medium, she wanted me to fuck her hard, but after my earlier excursion today to Tulip I could have been in a better shape, and I am an old man, so I finished in her mouth. A lot of conversation afterwards as her english was really above standard.

It will not be an action to be repeated, but more some kind of bucket list thing.

Could have been a lot worse!

Allover
12-12-23, 21:07
Thanks for the past reports from others, and hope this report help someone in the future.And thanks to you for an excellent report. You read previous reviews, came to Thailand, and conquered with the knowledge you obtained in advance of your trip. And of course you provided a review.

I also appreciate Grebe925's report on Maria. I've been wanting to go there since I heard they had very good looking girls.

Punter00
12-12-23, 22:07
Anyone want to meet up for a beer in BKK.

Planning to spend time in Nana Plaza, 7-heaven, Daisy Dream, Kokoro, La Belle & Sakura Asakuri.

PM me if interested.

Belisaj
12-12-23, 23:33
I'll be back in 2 weeks but haven't been back since Insanity was open and that was my go-to spot to pick up hot club freelancers. I know about Levels and Sugar's and Oskar's and didn't really find any quality in there last time so wondering if anyone had crawled through all the new clubs and bars along Soi 11 and knew where everyone migrated to. If not, I might have to do it myself and report back to everyone when I get there. TIA.

Belvaros
12-13-23, 00:09
Belisaj and LifeisLimited. Any decent non LB freelancers on the street near Nana and Thermae etc?

I saw some recent videos with quite a few nearby.

DaVinci2
12-13-23, 00:24
Me, a friend, and my brother from another mother are going to BKK in Jan to celebrate his 50th. I've been many times, but this is his 1st and I want to strike the tone on his arrival.

I will send a driver to the airport to get them. We are all staying at the JW, and I will have a Suite.

Fortunately I will be arriving one day before them, but I've never tried pulling something like this off. Anybody have some ideas on how to efficiently find and vet some girls to show up (on time) for the task? I was thinking to explore Nana and then invest some time at whatever spot is feeling like solid options are available. I'll be taking 1 or 2 that night, then I'm thinking to tip my *extras* 1,000 B and tell them they get the balance of the deal if they follow through?

Other ideas? Is there a better way to do this beyond parking in a spot at Nana to recruit my harem?

Captain Solo
12-13-23, 01:04
Under all that loose clothing you wouldn't know the creature is woman, man or a cow. She can hide and carry a AK-47 with dozen clips of ammo, may be even a huge IED, easily.

Women of a certain religion are brought up under strict customs to never enjoy sex, even with husbands and BFs. Showing pleasure they may be thought of as filthy sluts and will fall in disfavor. IN that culture sexual pleasures are strictly for men only.

In fact as of present time many countries in Africa and Middle East still carry out Female Genitalia Mutilation, FGM, on young girls to make sure they can never be aroused and will never have sexual pleasures:

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/female-genital-mutilation

These women are stiff, awkward, resentful, ornery, may even be in pain having sex.


I may be not completely sane, but in between all the exposed bodies, I have seen some hijab ladies hanging around close to the Novotel on Soi 4. They do excite me, there was one report on one of them in 2022, but are there more recent experiences to be told? Of course I can try for myself, which I probably will anyhow.

Forty Drinks
12-13-23, 04:05
Here's my report for 4 days in Bangkok from the end of November:

Hotel:

I stayed at La petite Salil on Soi 11 and mostly for the ease of access to Sukhumvit. Room is a bit small, but you get what you pay for. No questions when bringing guest in.

Money:

I arrived slightly after midnight, so I pulled money from the ATM at the BKK using Schwab debit card.

I also used the SuperRich for money exchange since I had cash on-hand. I used the one at Asoke BTS once. I also used the one at MRT Sukhumvit (because Asoke BTS had a long line), which had no line and slightly better rate..Rainbow 4 Superstar still goes for 3,000. Which means I'm sure 3,000 will get you any girl in Rainbow 5.

No Biggie. It's not like you were willing to pay 700 American Dollar s.

11Bravo
12-13-23, 05:14
Actually I really do not need to be monger of the century, so I will not make my report beautifully detailed. I love beautiful, hot women, all kinds of them, but I have always been attracted to the sleazy, dirty side as well. No reason that the two cannot exist next to each other.

But I did not reach rock bottom this time; actually it was a rather decent pick-up.
It will not be an action to be repeated, but more some kind of bucket list thing.

Could have been a lot worse!Shazam, mf. WELL DONE. I couldn't stop laughing as I read the report.


I read the posts on this forum and went back for like the prior 6 months, so that gave me enough information to explore.Well done, certainly lessons for newbies.


IAnd since I didn't have change, I just gave her ฿3000.
Lessons learned = Keep smaller bills.She's not a bank, and these days, even if she was, she wouldn't have change. She'll never have change. Worth buying a coke in 7/11 with a 1000 baht to get change.


And as soon as I ordered my drink, the girl I was eyeing got pulled by another guy.You snooze you loose. If you think she's attractive, others will too.


The waiter also wanted a tip and I gave her ฿100 since I didn't have change.EVERYONE will want a tip. As the old knight told Indiana Jones, "Choose wisely". You can say no. Try some Thai, phonetic: "My ou, cap", where the ou is ouch. "My pie, cap" (I don't go) for the pesky tuk-tuks, touts, etc. MY experience, they think you're an old hand so leave you alone.


Lessons learned = Don't do take out unless after talking to the girl.Goes without saying. How well she can banter is a good indication of how friendly she'll be later.


I brought her one drink (3647;220); but mama-san also insisted on needing one, so I gave in for another ฿220. She chatted a little, then she danced on top of me and let my hand roam feel. ...The vibe was good and I went for it.Damn, you ARE a fast learner (see above). And again, you can always say no for mamasan / waiter tips unless mamasan has been really helpful. I mark all of the staff requests for tips in the It never hurts to ask category.


Thanks for the past reports from others, and hope this report help someone in the future.Only if they read, but again, well done.

Forty Drinks
12-13-23, 07:26
Shazam, mf. WELL DONE. I couldn't stop laughing as I read the report.

Well done, certainly lessons for newbies.

She's not a bank, and these days, even if she was, she wouldn't have change. She'll never have change. Worth buying a coke in 7/11 with a 1000 baht to get change.

You snooze you loose. If you think she's attractive, others will too.

EVERYONE will want a tip. As the old knight told Indiana Jones, "Choose wisely". You can say no. Try some Thai, phonetic: "My ou, cap", where the ou is ouch. "My pie, cap" (I don't go) for the pesky tuk-tuks, touts, etc. MY experience, they think you're an old hand so leave you alone.

Goes without saying. How well she can banter is a good indication of how friendly she'll be later.Why did he make so much errors if he read back 6 months.

Please people keep asking the same questions. The alternative is this Thread dies. There is no situation that hasn't been covered ad infinitum.

There's 2 members who say don't buy drinks for Hangars on. They are quite vociferous. I'm in their camp.

Belisaj
12-13-23, 07:41
Belisaj and LifeisLimited. Any decent non LB freelancers on the street near Nana and Thermae etc?

I saw some recent videos with quite a few nearby.Yeah I saw some of those vids as well and you're right definitely quite a few around the area. I wasn't sure if people had experience with the new Hillarys that opened, Candy Store, Bobo, or the scene at Route 66 and Onyx etc.

Belvaros
12-13-23, 07:43
Yeah I saw some of those vids as well and you're right definitely quite a few around the area. I wasn't sure if people had experience with the new Hillarys that opened, Candy Store, Bobo, or the scene at Route 66 and Onyx etc.Lots of African lasses around these parts as well. Some of the music bars in Cowboy look like scenes from Nairobi.

Belvaros
12-13-23, 07:47
Under all that loose clothing you wouldn't know the creature is woman, man or a cow. She can hide and carry a AK-47 with dozen clips of ammo, may be even a huge IED, easily.

Women of a certain religion are brought up under strict customs to never enjoy sex, even with husbands and BFs. Showing pleasure they may be thought of as filthy sluts and will fall in disfavor. IN that culture sexual pleasures are strictly for men only.

In fact as of present time many countries in Africa and Middle East still carry out Female Genitalia Mutilation, FGM, on young girls to make sure they can never be aroused and will never have sexual pleasures:

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/female-genital-mutilation

These women are stiff, awkward, resentful, ornery, may even be in pain having sex.Yes and NO. Depends on the country. I've banged many Muslim girls. Most are clean, enthusiastic and just fecking nice. YMMV.

Indeed many of my top sexual pleasures have come from sexy, honorable, beautiful ISLAMIC babes. Of course none of mine have had their clits removed!

I've mainly done Moroccans (reports on ISG). A few Senegalese (lovely, pretty babes many are), Mali-nese (poor, but lovely) and a few Indonesians.

Nyezhov
12-13-23, 07:55
And thanks to you for an excellent report. You read previous reviews, came to Thailand, and conquered with the knowledge you obtained in advance of your trip. And of course you provided a review.
.I agree the report was excellent. However, he overpaid the tip to the waitress by $1. 50 and shouldn't have tipped the mama san. That means he overpaid by about $3 in total and destroyed the price structure.

On the other hand, rainbow five girls should only be 3,000.

I'm not going to argue with the extra 500 baht to the girl from thermaec, I generally do that since I'm there all the time.

Nyezhov
12-13-23, 08:02
Belisaj and LifeisLimited. Any decent non LB freelancers on the street near Nana and Thermae etc?

I saw some recent videos with quite a few nearby.Best time is Thurs to Sunday starting at 9 pm from Soi 9 up to T21, with GIRL selection being best from Margarita Storm up. Anything taller than say 5' 5" dressed nicely with Big Tits is a ladyboy.

ChrisCross123
12-13-23, 11:12
TL / DR:

- Nana Plaza on Dec 12/13 unusually empty. Why?

- Outrageous prices: 4000 + 1000 for ST and ST 1 hour and 1 time. Wtf.

- Africans too big booty and talk too much.

Now in Bangkok for a week. Mostly busy with TF. But I had great times at Nana and fondly remember its simplicity to quench the fire. Few days ago was there and selection was okay. Still defaulted to my tried and tested lady from last year. 3000 + 1000 . Usual business.

Yesternight I went again and it was shockingly empty. Maybe 50% to 60% with regard to girls as well as customers. I asked a few times as to why but never got an answer I was able to understand. Some bar lady said something about birthday. No idea.

Now. Has anybody here an educated guess to why it was so empty? I would like to know so I can avoid going there at those days.

But it got worse. Went to the bar with the most promising selection. Middle floor, right side (facing away from entry), two stages, normal girls. Where I also have my main girl but who had day off. After a while I asked one girl for ladydrink and agreed to one costing 400 . That was already stupid (mental note) but whatever. After a while I think she's nice enough and ask her for price expecting the usual 3000 + 1000 and she told me and kept insisting on 4000 + 1000. But that's definitely more than what I am willing to pay. So, just said bye bye khap and looked on. Found another very good looking girl and asked her out of a mix of actual interest and economical curiosity how much is ST and she answers as well 4000 + 1000. At that point I was mentally already prepared to just bleed this night from my wallet and already agreed but asked about how long is short time and she says 1 hour. Now that is totally outrageous nonsense. So I get one of those overweight tomboy bar ladies to investigate as to what the hell is going on and it turns out 1 hour because the other hour is like roundtrip to the hotel but if I just go to the hour hotel around the corner then 2 hours is fine. I'm like okay. A little misunderstanding. Finally we are getting somewhere. But I am already in a very suspecting mental mode and just to make sure ask something like "but many sex, right? The bar lady almost looses it - "no, just one time!". And I'm like fuck it. 5000 for 2 hours 1 time. With my usual lady from that same bar just few days ago I paid 4000 for 2 hours and I can fuck as often as I want.

Now. I am suspecting a pattern. First of all those two chicks were younger than my standard girl and that chick kind of vibes well with me. So, I guess if you ask you always get the answer only once. But if the girl likes me and can choose between doing nothing or massage my back for the remaining 1 hour and 30 minutes then she'll likely choose doing the starfish and have me have it my way.

Anyway very confusing. There was almost no action in that bar and both chicks almost guaranteed didn't get a customer as it was already past midnight.

Me idiot then just grabbed one of the Africans and got what I deserved. A dull experience. She was definitely good looking and we agreed on 2000 for one hour one time. But what's up with their asses. What the hell are they doing to them. Always way too out of proportion and then those stretchmarks. And then of course always starting a discussion about money at some point. I can usually handle that but then my dick got limp despite half a Cialis (2.5 MG). I guess I just had too much sex the previous days. So, I sent her on her way.

There is nothing more satisfying then having a disappointing experience with a hooker. It just totally kills all my desire for sex for the remainder of the day.

Banana Boi
12-13-23, 11:39
Lessons learned = Don't do take out unless after talking to the girl.Thanks for your review. A nice read. I think you did very well if this was your first solo run in Thailand. We all learn from our mistakes.

Glad you pointed out the major lesson learned. I know it was a "misunderstanding" about taking the girl right away but I look at it like this. Either the mamasan knew if the girl sat with you that you would likely not barfine her. Worst yet mamasan knew exactly what she was doing and was aggressive enough to conclude you would take the girl right away. I know you mentioned it was late but for me one of the best things about a gogo bar is to invest in that lady drink for 250 baht and get to know the girl and her behavior before dishing out 4-7000 baht. I can't tell you how many guys I know think with the wrong head and just barfine a girl within minutes of seeing her then complaining after about poor service or they didn't click.

Is it normal to prepay at Geisha? That's a no no for most guys on here.

Nyezhov
12-13-23, 11:46
Thanks for your review. A nice read. I think you did very well if this was your first solo run in Thailand. We all learn from our mistakes.

Glad you pointed out the major lesson learned. I know it was a "misunderstanding" about taking the girl right away but I look at it like this. Either the mamasan knew if the girl sat with you would likely not barfine her or even more evil the mamasan knew exactly what she was doing and knew you would take the girl right away. I know you mentioned it was late but for me one of the best things about a gogo bar is to invest in that lady drink for 250 baht and get to know the girl and her behavior before dishing out 4-7000 baht. I can't tell you how many guys I know think with the wrong head and just barfine a girl within minutes of seeing her then complaining after about poor service or they didn't click.

Is it normal to prepay at Geisha? That's a no no for most guys on here.Read back a few bro they do it in Billboard. I can't remember if they do it in geisha I did bar find a girl from there but that was a few weeks ago. They don't do it in rainbow 5. They don't do it in bunnies or twisters.

I wrote about it but I forgot what I wrote.

Mari1256
12-13-23, 12:29
Women of a certain religion are brought up under strict customs to never enjoy sex, even with husbands and BFs. Showing pleasure they may be thought of as filthy sluts and will fall in disfavor. IN that culture sexual pleasures are strictly for men only..I don't mean to offend you, but it is more or less a charade. These women on Soi 4 were brought up more or less liberally, are rather well educated, and they use their clothing and image to attract a certain kind of monger. As the lady told me, she despises Arabs, will not let Indian guys near her, so its farangs and Koreans she aims for.

Werqweq
12-13-23, 14:21
Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!

Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.

If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!!IME that hotel at soi 55 is the best. I don't mean the girls there are the best, but that hotel is the best of 5-6 different places I met fiwfans girls. Other places were somewhat dingy, but this one is a decent 3-star.

IndianTuna
12-13-23, 17:25
What metrics are we using here to rate the pussy? Oder, introitus width, and clitorial hood length?I would say overall. Breakup:

Odor: 9/10.

Tightness: 7/10.

Shaved: 10/10.

Captain Solo
12-13-23, 19:16
Belvaros,

Muslim girls in Thailand tend to be chubby with cherubic faces, wearing loose clothing and head cover. They look crude, backward, unexpressive.

I bagged a few in Malaysia, Indonesia, Bali. They were obliging and docile but never showed any sexual or joyful expressions. I found girls from Atheist countries like China and Vietnam completely free of any sexual hang ups, totally into initializing and enjoying sex, wail, scream, talk dirty. Sex with them is very satisfying.

Back during the Shah regime in Iran, a lot of young Iranians went to US for schooling. A lot of them went to UCLA. They could live much cheaper and better in expensive Westwood CA than in hyperinflated Tehran. The girls would fast for the entire month during Ramadan, wearing chador over their heads and pray all day. In public they seemed to subscribe to strict religious restrictions, no alcohol, no sex ect but a lot of girls would screw around liberally. Time to go home they would go to special Iranian doctors to mend their hymens to prove they were still virgins for marriage.

A guy got his PhD and was getting ready to take his pretty wife and 1 YO son back to Tehran. She was a pretty, gentle woman but appeared oppressed and hopeless, always wearing loose clothing and head cover even in her home. She did not want to go back to Iran, pleaded with a guy to marry her so she could stay with her son in the US. It was a sad story. The guy is likely still working on nuclear weapon program in Tehran. These scholarly guys were educated in the US, decided to stay in the US, got good jobs, but ideologically they are still fervently against Western religions and cultures.

Pk099
12-13-23, 20:05
Yes, same experience for me. My best sexual encounters are with Muslim girls, mostly Turkish, Kazaks and Uzbeks. Also some Indian Muslim girls in Delhi.

Infact my first 3 some was with one canadian muslim (born in pakistan to parents from Pakistan and brought up in Canada) and one canadian blonde in Montreal, like 20 yrs back, where the muslim girl was most horny in 3 of us.

When you go Dubai, 50% working girls in clubs are muslims (from Iran, Kazak, Uzbeck etc). All of them fuck atleast 10 guys in a week.


Yes and NO. Depends on the country. I've banged many Muslim girls. Most are clean, enthusiastic and just fecking nice. YMMV.

Indeed many of my top sexual pleasures have come from sexy, honorable, beautiful ISLAMIC babes. Of course none of mine have had their clits removed!

I've mainly done Moroccans (reports on ISG). A few Senegalese (lovely, pretty babes many are), Mali-nese (poor, but lovely) and a few Indonesians.

Belisaj
12-14-23, 01:06
Best time is Thurs to Sunday starting at 9 pm from Soi 9 up to T21, with GIRL selection being best from Margarita Storm up. Anything taller than say 5' 5" dressed nicely with Big Tits is a ladyboy.Super valuable info thanks for this. Although unfortunately, 5'5 dressed nicely with big tits is my type haha. I'll just have to ask if she's pre-op or post-op then: the.

Forty Drinks
12-14-23, 01:51
Prepaying Rainbow 4 and 5 girls.

Upon my inquisity its not uncommon to see 5- 7,000 baht changing hands between staff and customer. The thing is I don't see 40 drinks that were distributed to every tom, somchai, and nit in the bar. Funny BRO.

I surmise payment is being made for the whole kit and Kaboodle. Meaning the girl has her money before stepping out of the BAR.

Is it common -not sure. But like I said it happens enough that I notice it.

LifeIsLimited
12-14-23, 02:35
She's not a bank, and these days, even if she was, she wouldn't have change. She'll never have change. Worth buying a coke in 7/11 with a 1000 baht to get change.Yea, I knew I messed up right after I paid the taxi.


Why did he make so much errors if he read back 6 months.I guess knowing and executing are two different things. Probably just thinking with the wrong head. LOL.


On the other hand, rainbow five girls should only be 3,000.I saw your post back in mid-November about the pricing for a few different places (and that information was very helpful). I guess I went for it since it was late. Oh well.


Thanks for your review. A nice read. I think you did very well if this was your first solo run in Thailand. We all learn from our mistakes.Yes, it was my first time in Thailand. Thanks.


Is it normal to prepay at Geisha? That's a no no for most guys on here.That's another mistake on my part. Mama-san didn't ask for prepay, but I just forked over the whole amount. Not sure what I was thinking at the moment.

SscFan
12-14-23, 02:59
Had my first experience at the Wood Bar today.

Took the 800 Baht BJ option for 30 minutes with Bibi, a cute and slim 28 yo.

She did a very good job, highly recommended.

She proposed FS for 1000 but didn't want to try this time.

Enjoy if you visit!

SSCFAN.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 03:47
I don't mean to offend you, but it is more or less a charade. These women on Soi 4 were brought up more or less liberally, are rather well educated, and they use their clothing and image to attract a certain kind of monger. As the lady told me, she despises Arabs, will not let Indian guys near her, so its farangs and Koreans she aims for.There were a bunch of Raisinettes on their usual corner last night, their ugliness and lumpiness was accentuated by the intrusive thought of some old dude smashing them. I truly admire that you have admitted to banging one! Did she have a Unibrow? Extra points for that.


Belvaros,

Muslim girls in Thailand tend to be chubby with cherubic faces, wearing loose clothing and head cover. They look crude, backward, unexpressive.

I bagged a few in Malaysia, Indonesia, Bali. They were obliging and docile but never showed any sexual or joyful expressions. I found girls from Atheist countries like China and Vietnam completely free of any sexual hang ups, totally into initializing and enjoying sex, wail, scream, talk dirty. Sex with them is very satisfying.

Back during the Shah regime in Iran, a lot of young Iranians went to US for schooling. A lot of them went to UCLA. They could live much cheaper and better in expensive Westwood CA than in hyperinflated Tehran. The girls would fast for the entire month during Ramadan, wearing chador over their heads and pray all day. In public they seemed to subscribe to strict religious restrictions, no alcohol, no sex ect but a lot of girls would screw around liberally. Time to go home they would go to special Iranian doctors to mend their hymens to prove they were still virgins for marriage..I boomboomed an Iranian girl in Baku. She was attractive, but nothing special.


Yes, same experience for me. My best sexual encounters are with Muslim girls, mostly Turkish, Kazaks and Uzbeks. Also some Indian Muslim girls in Delhi.

Infact my first 3 some was with one canadian muslim (born in pakistan to parents from Pakistan and brought up in Canada) and one canadian blonde in Montreal, like 20 yrs back, where the muslim girl was most horny in 3 of us.

When you go Dubai, 50% working girls in clubs are muslims (from Iran, Kazak, Uzbeck etc). All of them fuck atleast 10 guys in a week.Turks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs are more secular Muslims.


Had my first experience at the Wood Bar today.

Took the 800 Baht BJ option for 30 minutes with Bibi, a cute and slim 28 yo.

She did a very good job, highly recommended.

She proposed FS for 1000 but didn't want to try this time.

Enjoy if you visit!

SSCFAN.I was at Wood Bar last night, I guess your cute and slim one had already gone home because it was ugly and fat when I was there.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 04:03
TL / DR:

- Nana Plaza on Dec 12/13 unusually empty. Why?

- Outrageous prices: 4000 + 1000 for ST and ST 1 hour and 1 time. Wtf.

- Africans too big booty and talk too much.

Now in Bangkok for a week. Mostly busy with TF. But I had great times at Nana and fondly remember its simplicity to quench the fire. Few days ago was there and selection was okay. Still defaulted to my tried and tested lady from last year. 3000 + 1000 . Usual business.

Yesternight I went again and it was shockingly empty. Maybe 50% to 60% with regard to girls as well as customers. I asked a few times as to why but never got an answer I was able to understand. Some bar lady said something about birthday. No idea.

Now. Has anybody here an educated guess to why it was so empty? I would like to know so I can avoid going there at those days.

But it got worse. Went to the bar with the most promising selection. Middle floor, right side (facing away from entry), two stages, normal girls. Where I also have my main girl but who had day off. After a while I asked one girl for ladydrink and agreed to one costing 400 . That was already stupid (mental note) but whatever. After a while I think she's nice enough and ask her for price expecting the usual 3000 + 1000 and she told me and kept insisting on 4000 + 1000. But that's definitely more than what I am willing to pay. So, just said bye bye khap and looked on..Are your dates confused? I was there last night (Wednesday) and it was packed at about 21:30. Line at the entrance. Loads of hotties.

Girls are 3,000 in Rainbow, 3000 in Geisha, 3000 in Bunny's, 3000 in twister, 3000 in Lolipops and 4,000 in Billboard. Remember that.

I am envious that guys here are sinking to the bottom of the mongering pond by doing things like going to Patpong or banging burkha babes. I find it admirable that folks will spend all that money to fly here and then proceed to wallow in the mongering gutter.

Since I live here, I asked myself: Self, why are you being so boogie? Why don't you go to Beach Road in Pattaya at 3 am? Or jump on the train to Lopburi and hit the chicken shacks? Well I guess I'm too lazy, so I decided to stop into Magic Table at 1 am and get hoovered. Decent BJ, sleazy atmosphere, non monster girl. I flet like I needed a shower afterward, and their isn't one. It may not have been as horrid as a Patpong Burhkina, but it was something I felt I needed to do to enhance my mongering credibility.

Belvaros
12-14-23, 04:57
Do you actually provide any pictures or informatrion here apart from douche around on others' reports. Really.

Belvaros
12-14-23, 05:15
Belvaros,

Muslim girls in Thailand tend to be chubby with cherubic faces, wearing loose clothing and head cover. They look crude, backward, unexpressive.

I bagged a few in Malaysia, Indonesia, Bali. They were obliging and docile but never showed any sexual or joyful expressions. I found girls from Atheist countries like China and Vietnam completely free of any sexual hang ups, totally into initializing and enjoying sex, wail, scream, talk dirty. Sex with them is very satisfying.

Back during the Shah regime in Iran, a lot of young Iranians went to US for schooling. A lot of them went to UCLA. They could live much cheaper and better in expensive Westwood CA than in hyperinflated Tehran. The girls would fast for the entire month during Ramadan, wearing chador over their heads and pray all day. In public they seemed to subscribe to strict religious restrictions, no alcohol, no sex ect but a lot of girls would screw around liberally. Time to go home they would go to special Iranian doctors to mend their hymens to prove they were still virgins for marriage.

A guy got his PhD and was getting ready to take his pretty wife and 1 YO son back to Tehran. She was a pretty, gentle woman but appeared oppressed and hopeless, always wearing loose clothing and head cover even in her home. She did not want to go back to Iran, pleaded with a guy to marry her so she could stay with her son in the US. It was a sad story. The guy is likely still working on nuclear weapon program in Tehran. These scholarly guys were educated in the US, decided to stay in the US, got good jobs, but ideologically they are still fervently against Western religions and cultures.As I said, I have had MANY joyful experiences living in Islamic countries. Reported on some of them many years ago on this very forum. Living the life. You mention the Persians in USA. Hardly hard core Islamists but I understand your narrow USA based views. I lived in the USA 18 years. Bonked 'them all and I'll take a nice Muslim over the J. A. P. Cnuts I had many experiences with, and indeed was married to (Jew *.

But for your own education, please travel to the more moderate Islamic countries such as Maroc and Tunisia. The working ladies drink like fish as do the drug taking, cheat on their wives hard core Hashish inspired men. Horses for courses. Some Muslim girls are as tame as are many Jews and Christians under stricter religious families and husbands. Yada.

Further, I knew one of the Shahs daughters in London. Knew her very well. She lived in a MEGA SUITE in one of the 5 star hotels. Was she attractive. NOPE. Eventually, the poor girl offed herself, but please do not generalise with your views of the working ladies of ISLAM.

FWIW I think the Shah was a scumbag NAZI of the highest order propped up by our mob.

I have lived on every continent sans the big icy one down south and for all of my experiences I would rather have a nice Maroccaino lady than some local Swedish, American or Australian cnut. YMMV.

BUT, for the record, I agree about MANY subversive Islamists in the USA. I kind of think a certain President favoured them over his own Navy. With regards to Iran. Then again many voted for his senile VP. Saul Goodman.

Belvaros
12-14-23, 05:18
You're the client.

1. Never ever prepay.

2. Remember 1.

MickeyDuck1208
12-14-23, 05:45
My best Muslim encounters have been in Jakarta. Most memorable one was a Hijab girl on Euroescorts and Locanto who I met a couple of times. Had "hijab" in her listing too. From how you meet her. Since she really comes in a proper hijab and gown, no communication till she is inside the room but you have to guide her from reception it was all shy, reserverd and demure. Once she chnages to lingerie in the room, she transforms to a tiger. Mind blowing sex. Proper office girl doing this on the side to become an attorney (what an irony!

Had a few others in Dubai, India, but nothing dramatic.


Belvaros,

Muslim girls in Thailand tend to be chubby with cherubic faces, wearing loose clothing and head cover. They look crude, backward, unexpressive.

I bagged a few in Malaysia, Indonesia, Bali. They were obliging and docile but never showed any sexual or joyful expressions. I found girls from Atheist countries like China and Vietnam completely free of any sexual hang ups, totally into initializing and enjoying sex, wail, scream, talk dirty. Sex with them is very satisfying.

Back during the Shah regime in Iran, a lot of young Iranians went to US for schooling. A lot of them went to UCLA. They could live much cheaper and better in expensive Westwood CA than in hyperinflated Tehran. The girls would fast for the entire month during Ramadan, wearing chador over their heads and pray all day. In public they seemed to subscribe to strict religious restrictions, no alcohol, no sex ect but a lot of girls would screw around liberally. Time to go home they would go to special Iranian doctors to mend their hymens to prove they were still virgins for marriage.

A guy got his PhD and was getting ready to take his pretty wife and 1 YO son back to Tehran. She was a pretty, gentle woman but appeared oppressed and hopeless, always wearing loose clothing and head cover even in her home. She did not want to go back to Iran, pleaded with a guy to marry her so she could stay with her son in the US. It was a sad story. The guy is likely still working on nuclear weapon program in Tehran. These scholarly guys were educated in the US, decided to stay in the US, got good jobs, but ideologically they are still fervently against Western religions and cultures.

11Bravo
12-14-23, 06:40
Yes, same experience for me. My best sexual encounters are with Muslim girls, mostly Turkish, Kazaks and Uzbeks. Ah yes, the 'Stani's. My most memorable was a Kyrgie. Interestingly, a number of Kyrgies have Korean heritage. She knew more places than I ever would (who knew you could have dinner at the DXB yacht club without being a member?) Walk into any restaurant, she was a head turner for all. Men would ogle, women would glare. Yet down to earth, she would also pitch in to help clean up my place when we threw dinner parties. Cyclone, RIP.


Yes, it was my first time in Thailand. Thanks.Now for the bad news. You'll have any number of successes, based on your newbie run, slip into complacency, and it'll be a lesson re-learned. I DO speak from experience, again and again.


I find it admirable that folks will spend all that money to fly here and then proceed to wallow in the mongering gutter.Many reasons to visit Thailand, and not all roads always lead to Thermae or Nana. Personally, I find Took Lae Dee's nam-a-now soda worth the trip. Well, that, and some Line contacts, but those nam-a-nows do nicely replenish fluids.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 14:42
Do you actually provide any pictures or informatrion here apart from douche around on others' reports. Really.Well gee Cowboy look right below you. And my reports usually concerned Thailand, as opposed to you spouting your love for the burka babes.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 14:43
You're the client.

1. Never ever prepay.

2. Remember 1.Well I guess you're not getting any girls out of billboard.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 14:47
Ah yes, the 'Stani's. My most memorable was a Kyrgie. Interestingly, a number of Kyrgies have Korean heritage. She knew more places than I ever would (who knew you could have dinner at the DXB yacht club without being a member?) Walk into any restaurant, she was a head turner for all. Men would ogle, women would glare. Yet down to earth, she would also pitch in to help clean up my place when we threw dinner parties. Cyclone, RIP.

Now for the bad news. You'll have any number of successes, based on your newbie run, slip into complacency, and it'll be a lesson re-learned. I DO speak from experience, again and again.

Many reasons to visit Thailand, and not all roads always lead to Thermae or Nana. Personally, I find Took Lae Dee's nam-a-now soda worth the trip. Well, that, and some Line contacts, but those nam-a-nows do nicely replenish fluids.Gee let's fly all the way to Thailand to sit in Foodland with the Arab dudes and drink Schweppes Manao.

Goatscrot
12-14-23, 15:16
My best Muslim encounters have been in Jakarta. Most memorable one was a Hijab girl on Euroescorts and Locanto who I met a couple of times. Had "hijab" in her listing too. From how you meet her. Since she really comes in a proper hijab and gown, no communication till she is inside the room but you have to guide her from reception it was all shy, reserverd and demure. Once she chnages to lingerie in the room, she transforms to a tiger. Mind blowing sex. Proper office girl doing this on the side to become an attorney (what an irony!

Had a few others in Dubai, India, but nothing dramatic.Islamic gals I've had in Indo have for the most part been great.

ChrisCross123
12-14-23, 16:02
Are your dates confused? I was there last night (Wednesday) and it was packed at about 21:30. Line at the entrance. Loads of hotties.No, you are. Today is Dec 14 . So last night was Dec 13/14. The night from Dec 13 to 14. I'm talking about Dec 12 to 13. Dec 12/13. Got it? The rest I have no idea what you are talking about.

Pahllus Maximus
12-14-23, 17:50
In New Jersey and area we have BJ's wholesale club. Perhaps one day it will offer an salon for men. Sadly the USA is too schizophrenic about sex as well as its mostly fat, lazy, entitled heifers so that is a long way off though maybe the AI employment collapse will render this a possibility.

As for Bangcock, Dr. BJ's was re-named the wood bar and I am not sure about Lolita's, Kassalong, SOL, 7-Heavan as of 2023 and would appreciate current marketplace information from fellow punters.

It's always great to see in the mirror a 19-24 year old Thai beauty with her feminine, dainty pink lips wrapped around my cock and blowing a hot load of tadpoles down her throat.

Wood bar seems to still be THB 800 (USD 23.00) and a retail one hour session with a decent girl seems to be about THB 2,000 (USD 58.00), but I have not been back since before COVID.

Banana Boi
12-14-23, 18:19
Well I guess you're not getting any girls out of billboard.This is how my skipping payment of the barfine started. In 2015, What's Up agogo wanted us to prepay 7000 baht for LT. Since I didn't want to prepay I sent mamasan away and said no BF. Girl looked so sad. I asked her to meet me for 3000 ST. Sure enough she Lined me a week later to meet 3000 ST but in total we spent around 4 hours together before she had to go to work.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 19:30
This is how my skipping payment of the barfine started. In 2015, What's Up agogo wanted us to prepay 7000 baht for LT. Since I didn't want to prepay I sent mamasan away and said no BF. Girl looked so sad. I asked her to meet me for 3000 ST. Sure enough she Lined me a week later to meet 3000 ST but in total we spent around 4 hours together before she had to go to work.Bar fines annoy me but prepayment annoys me even more. They don't even give you a break on the bar fine anymore after midnight I don't believe. All the girls I have bar fine this year for short time have told me that they go back to the bar and climb on the stage again after a customer. If you want to go back to the bar and get the same girl, you have to Bar find her again. I don't know if that's true because I'm one and done, but then the question pops into my mind is are the girls getting a piece of the bar fines.

Nyezhov
12-14-23, 19:34
In New Jersey and area we have BJ's wholesale club. Perhaps one day it will offer an salon for men. Sadly the USA is too schizophrenic about sex as well as its mostly fat, lazy, entitled heifers so that is a long way off though maybe the AI employment collapse will render this a possibility.

As for Bangcock, Dr. BJ's was re-named the wood bar and I am not sure about Lolita's, Kassalong, SOL, 7-Heavan as of 2023 and would appreciate current marketplace information from fellow punters.

It's always great to see in the mirror a 19-24 year old Thai beauty with her feminine, dainty pink lips wrapped around my cock and blowing a hot load of tadpoles down her throat.

Wood bar seems to still be THB 800 (USD 23.00) and a retail one hour session with a decent girl seems to be about THB 2,000 (USD 58.00), but I have not been back since before COVID.Dude if you take the trouble to even read one page or two pages back of the form you'll find current information on the BJ bars. If you think you're going to get a 19 to 24 year old Thai Beauty with feminine pink lips hoovering your turgid member you are living in a dream world. Those days are a long gone.

NRandom940
12-14-23, 19:48
It's always great to see in the mirror a 19-24 year old Thai beauty with her feminine, dainty pink lips wrapped around my cock and blowing a hot load of tadpoles down her throat.
So eloquent. And so true.

*laugh emoji.

HorseTrader
12-14-23, 23:48
Girls are 3,000 in Rainbow, 3000 in Geisha, 3000 in Bunny's, 3000 in twister, 3000 in Lolipops and 4,000 in Billboard. Remember that.I confirm that 3000 is right for Rainbow and some others. A few nights ago I went into Geisha and there were 2 or 3 smoking hot girls in the soap play area. I asked mama about one girl and she confirmed she does bar fines and that her fee was "5000 and up. " Makes me wonder how little you get if you opt for the 5000 option. I've been more than satisfied with the 3000 baht girls from other go go bars, so that's where I went.

11Bravo
12-15-23, 07:21
As for Bangcock, Dr. BJ's was re-named the wood bar and I am not sure about Lolita's, Kassalong, SOL, 7-Heavan as of 2023 and would appreciate current marketplace information from fellow punters.SOL. RIP. Another institution that now exists only in fond memories.


Gee let's fly all the way to Thailand to sit in Foodland with the Arab dudes and drink Schweppes Manao.Wow, reading comprehension is certainly a diminishing talent. Schweppes Manao? Nah, I like mine fresh and it's fun to banter with the staff as they do (stirred, NOT shaken). And Soi 5 is a bit far for me, especially given the shrinking of the Beer Garden, so I just use my local.


I am envious that guys here are sinking to the bottom of the mongering pond by doing things like going to Patpong or banging burkha babes. I find it admirable that folks will spend all that money to fly here and then proceed to wallow in the mongering gutter.Seems some members are Hi-so, and if you don't sport Thermae or Rainbow branding, then you obviously don't fit THEIR definition of a knowledgable punter. Rolex, Citizen, nah, my Swiss watch, Casio (and yes, it's a Swiss watch because I bought it there), tells time just fine (full disclosure: replaced by a Fitbit to encourage me to brave pollution (BKK air pollution? Now March-April, 2010, THAT was some pollution, or as we say, tear gas. Everything else rather mild by comparison)). Many paths in Thailand to reach the destination of YOUR choosing. Mine? Sanuook. Myself, I don't need the approbation of others to validate my decisions; only person I need to please is myself.

To quote one of the great sages:
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the back streets?
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glow

Banana Boi
12-15-23, 12:39
but then the question pops into my mind is are the girls getting a piece of the bar fines.Depends on the bar but I'm going to say Yes. It may count as 5 drinks of pay or at least reduce their weekly drink quota by 5+ lady drinks. At least this was what I found out from a Sensations gogo girl, assuming she was telling me the truth.

Forty Drinks
12-15-23, 12:42
Dude if you take the trouble to even read one page or two pages back of the form you'll find current information on the BJ bars. If you think you're going to get a 19 to 24 year old Thai Beauty with feminine pink lips hoovering your turgid member you are living in a dream world. Those days are a long gone.Nana Schoolgirl has Pink Linps. Probably Pink nipples too.

Nyezhov
12-15-23, 12:52
Nana Schoolgirl has Pink Linps. Probably Pink nipples too.She was missing on Wednesday. Who here is going to fess up?

Khundig
12-15-23, 13:28
Booked 2 hours oil massage in the jacuzzi room for 2,500 + 500. I went for Apple. Pretty girl with big boobs and slim body. OMG that was really great. Kissing me all over, lots of action in the jacuzzi, and later on the bed. She was very active and kind as well. Almost everything was possible. Gave me after the action a 45 minutes oil massage which was also top and tried to wake my friend up again for some time. But I was already sleepy and over-relaxed. One of the best experiences I ever had in such a place in Bangkok. BTW, she is not shown on their website. Not sure if she is new maybe. Highly recommended.

Watnow78
12-15-23, 20:08
What's up everybody, I will be finally making my first trip to the land of smiles. I am super excited and can't wait to travel all over Thailand. I will be doing some extensive research on this website and other sites as well, but if anybody has any info that would help me in Bangkok that would be outstanding. I've been reading the prices have changed over the years and it's a lot more expensive now than it ever was. And the one thing I've been reading is that a lot of the working girls have moved on to social media and dating sites. I will be doing more research on that as well.

I'm a young looking 45-year-old male who lives in California and will be making my travels in January of this coming year. I will be there for about 25 days and plan to travel to Pattaya and possibly Phuket. I'll be doing a lot of research on these places as well. It seems that Battalion might be the best bang for the buck, in Bangkok is a bit more pricier. Money won't be an issue but I will still try to stick within a budget if I can LOL. I will try the massage parlors, freelancers, and a few of the bars and clubs that have been mentioned here.

I will be staying five nights at the city Lodge hotel right off of Sukhumvit, which seems to be in the middle of all the action. If there's any other areas other than not a plaza and soy Cowboy I would love to hear that information as well. I will try to keep my questions Limited and only direct them to specific issues or situations.

I can't WAIT!

Pahllus Maximus
12-16-23, 03:41
Such a shame.

So much fun balls-deep with spread eagled Thai hotties. Snow White and others surpassed Roman orgies, like being rimmed whilst I was chock-a-block in another girls tight pussy, banging one girl cowboy while another kissed me and delicately fondled my balls etc. And Eden club. Ahhhhhh !! Fortunately I discovered South America, but I really miss the casual Asian heat, holding a girls hand on a tuk-tuk and the exotic Asian looks, femininity and slim bodies. Some really epic times were had. Even a few times I heard the classic variant of "You make lady horny. Go hotel. Me love you long time. One thousand baht". Hah hah.

Once I took a limo to the airport and got a BJ on the way. May all of you have a Merry Christmas and that new year arrives with a bang.

Tiny 12
12-16-23, 05:18
Islamic gals I've had in Indo have for the most part been great.Same here.

Tomasb
12-16-23, 05:30
Dude if you take the trouble to even read one page or two pages back of the form you'll find current information on the BJ bars. If you think you're going to get a 19 to 24 year old Thai Beauty with feminine pink lips hoovering your turgid member you are living in a dream world. Those days are a long gone.Yes, so true. I walk by there every evening at least once and can confirm the talent, such as it is, is abysmal. Amazing both are still operating.

Lcale1982
12-16-23, 08:14
What's up everybody, I will be finally making my first trip to the land of smiles. I am super excited and can't wait to travel all over Thailand. I will be doing some extensive research on this website and other sites as well, but if anybody has any info that would help me in Bangkok that would be outstanding. I've been reading the prices have changed over the years and it's a lot more expensive now than it ever was. And the one thing I've been reading is that a lot of the working girls have moved on to social media and dating sites. I will be doing more research on that as well.

I'm a young looking 45-year-old male who lives in California and will be making my travels in January of this coming year. I will be there for about 25 days and plan to travel to Pattaya and possibly Phuket. I'll be doing a lot of research on these places as well. It seems that Battalion might be the best bang for the buck, in Bangkok is a bit more pricier. Money won't be an issue but I will still try to stick within a budget if I can LOL. I will try the massage parlors, freelancers, and a few of the bars and clubs that have been mentioned here.

I will be staying five nights at the city Lodge hotel right off of Sukhumvit, which seems to be in the middle of all the action. If there's any other areas other than not a plaza and soy Cowboy I would love to hear that information as well. I will try to keep my questions Limited and only direct them to specific issues or situations.

I can't WAIT!Check out Thermae Cafe it's a different experience not too far from where you're staying. You'll probably read about it as you browse around this site and others. Its kind of hidden under Ruamchitt hotel go downstairs instead of up to the hotel. Like always 80+ freelancers there no LB allowed just standing, waiting for someone to take them home or do ST right upstairs at Ruamchitt. You just have to buy a drink cheap compared to go go bars and then walk around to find someone to your liking. Around 2. 5-3 k for ST which most prefer, preference seems to be for asian customers. I have seen farangs walk out with ladies though.

Belvaros
12-16-23, 08:33
Booked 2 hours oil massage in the jacuzzi room for 2,500 + 500. I went for Apple. Pretty girl with big boobs and slim body. OMG that was really great. Kissing me all over, lots of action in the jacuzzi, and later on the bed. She was very active and kind as well. Almost everything was possible. Gave me after the action a 45 minutes oil massage which was also top and tried to wake my friend up again for some time. But I was already sleepy and over-relaxed. One of the best experiences I ever had in such a place in Bangkok. BTW, she is not shown on their website. Not sure if she is new maybe. Highly recommended.Cherry is solid. Like Apple Pie.

Belvaros
12-16-23, 08:34
Depends on the bar but I'm going to say Yes. It may count as 5 drinks of pay or at least reduce their weekly drink quota by 5+ lady drinks. At least this was what I found out from a Sensations gogo girl, assuming she was telling me the truth.Innit. So true.

Belvaros
12-16-23, 08:37
SOL. RIP. Another institution that now exists only in fond memories.

Wow, reading comprehension is certainly a diminishing talent. Schweppes Manao? Nah, I like mine fresh and it's fun to banter with the staff as they do (stirred, NOT shaken). And Soi 5 is a bit far for me, especially given the shrinking of the Beer Garden, so I just use my local.

Seems some members are Hi-so, and if you don't sport Thermae or Rainbow branding, then you obviously don't fit THEIR definition of a knowledgable punter. Rolex, Citizen, nah, my Swiss watch, Casio (and yes, it's a Swiss watch because I bought it there), tells time just fine (full disclosure: replaced by a Fitbit to encourage me to brave pollution (BKK air pollution? Now March-April, 2010, THAT was some pollution, or as we say, tear gas. Everything else rather mild by comparison)). Many paths in Thailand to reach the destination of YOUR choosing. Mine? Sanuook. Myself, I don't need the approbation of others to validate my decisions; only person I need to please is myself.

To quote one of the great sages:
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the back streets?
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glowW. S. Burrows would be proud. Possibly Hemmingway and Kereouac.

IndianTuna
12-16-23, 12:23
Late post. Visited La belle last month around 4 pm on a Friday. I usually pick this time because the lineup starts expanding and girls aren't tired.

Line up of 10-12 girls on the main podium and 3-4 sideliners. Sideliners were model class, 2 of them reminded me of Jav models in Tokyo. But very pricey 10 k+ THB and I have a budget (not very good at maintaining it).

As soon as you enter the building, you get the vibe of a hotel. Walk in and there would a lounge area kind of setup for the podium and the seats from where you can watch the girls. Mamasan here is a smooth talker, you need to be careful around her. I felt most of the other dudes there were either Chinese or well off SE brats who were flashing Rolexes. I doubt they were rep watches, but I am not an expert.

I ordered rum and coke, had a seat. The lineup has tiers. Mamasan handed the price per tier list and explained me the terms. 2 hrs is the standard, anything above can be tailored separately.

Girls here are a good mix of breeds that would appeal Asian men. No. 16 caught my eye. 5'7" wheatish complexion, must be around 30. Curvy and enough fat at the right places. I told mamasan to call her and we talked, mamasan pushed me to buy her a cocktail. I don't know why but I just didn't say NO. I bought her a g&t. We talked for a while, her english was perfect, she asked me about me and was very excited to meet me. We finalized and moved to payment. Payment completed, straight up to the room in the lift.

The lift, floors with the room and the room itself felt like straight from the 80's. The room had a jacuzzi, which we hopped into. She started with my feet, she had superb hands for a massage. I could feel the effort she's putting into it and she too knew I was enjoying it. Pulled me closer and lifted my hips till her beautiful perky boobs and gave a nice massage with hands and boobs. At this point I can see her eyes getting anxious to be fucked by my now hard cock. We stood up, she gave me a nice wash and told me to dry myself. She took a minute or so to clean herself and joined me on the bed.

Started with a BBBJ. That mouth of hers was some machine. The BBBJ was somewhat between a vaccum cleaner and sloppy. All I can say is my cock was completely under her control. She did try to swallow a few times, but had a gag reflex. A+ for effort. The ceiling over the bed had mirror which was nice to see myself getting blown.

Next, she put on a condom and started rubbing my pussy on her dick. She was wet and horny. Took it in nicely and she did the basic moves on top. She was fit- I could feel her abs popping with the motion and that just made me wild. I pushed her to under me and did missionary full speed -she enjoyed and took it like a charm. This made me even wilder. I carried her to the sofa and started doing doggy standing. She was so good with the posture and attitude, it felt like we had did this before. After some time, I felt she had an orgasm but not sure. She was going dry and it wasn't smooth anymore but her spirit was not "dry". We took a short break as I was feeling a bit thirsty. Ordered water to the room which was damn pricey, should have carried my own.

She offered to BBBJ me again, this time it was sloppy and a little bit play with her nails around my anus. After getting me erect, she asked me "how do you want me? The way she asked with her horny voice was so hot. We went to the bed and I started doggy again, her firm ass was irresistible. Had a few problems with the dryness but lube came in handy. Did her good for a few minutes then I stopped because her pussy was just getting dry and I can feel I have drained her completely. I said I wanted to cum over her face to which she agreed. She started sucking my balls and stroking me while looking into my eyes. I came all over her face in about 5 minutes.

Deed done, we sat, had some water and chit chat. She was so nice and polite, her english is a serious plus. We got a call from the lobby to close up in 10 minutes. She handed my clothes and told to dress up fast. We did, hurried to the lobby and said our good byes. I was so much in trance in this entire experience, I went outside and sat for a drink reminiscing the moments we spent together. I guess money can buy a few good things in life.

Damage. THB:

Girl: 4500 (mid tier).

Cocktail: 390.

Her cocktail: 250.

Water bottle room service: 100, tip 20.

Girl no 16:

1) Communication -10/10.

2) Boobs. Real, handful, medium sized - 7/10.

3) Pussy. Average tight, slight darker than her skin tone, clean shaven and smelled good - 7/10.

4) BBBJ - 10/10.

5) Sex - 10/10, horny and cooperative.

5) Face - 8/10, turns red when horny.

Overall if you are ok with the 5 k damage, I would say the deal is worth it. I am wondering what would the higher tier experience would be. Please share if you had experienced.

Watnow78
12-16-23, 22:18
Hey guys, I've been reading about the TF app and I'm a little confused. I'm not really big on dating apps but from what I've read this seems to be one of the best apps to meet Thai women. All of the ladies so far, which is about 10 of them have responded to me right away and immediately they ask if I have whatsapp, Line app and telegraph. I've been wondering if this is a normal request from Thai women? Also most of the photos that I see seem to be highly enhanced and not genuine. Also if you want to communicate with some of the popular Thai women on this app you have to pay a monthly fee. Is this wise? And is there any other apps I can meet Thai women on? Thank you.

Forty Drinks
12-17-23, 01:35
Late post. Visited La belle last month around 4 pm on a Friday. I usually pick this time because the lineup starts expanding and girls aren't tired.

Line up of 10-12 girls on the main podium and 3-4 sideliners. Sideliners were model class, 2 of them reminded me of Jav models in Tokyo. But very pricey 10 k+ THB and I have a budget (not very good at maintaining it).

As soon as you enter the building, you get the vibe of a hotel. Walk in and there would a lounge area kind of setup for the podium and the seats from where you can watch the girls. Mamasan here is a smooth talker, you need to be careful around her. I felt most of the other dudes there were either Chinese or well off SE brats who were flashing Rolexes. I doubt they were rep watches, but I am not an expert.

I ordered rum and coke, had a seat. The lineup has tiers. Mamasan handed the price per tier list and explained me the terms. 2 hrs is the standard, anything above can be tailored separately.

Girls here are a good mix of breeds that would appeal Asian men. No. 16 caught my eye. 5'7" wheatish complexion, must be around 30. Curvy and enough fat at the right places. I told mamasan to call her and we talked, mamasan pushed me to buy her a cocktail. I don't know why but I just didn't say NO. I bought her a g&t. We talked for a while, her english was perfect, she asked me about me and was very excited to meet me. We finalized and moved to payment. Payment completed, straight up to the room in the lift.

The lift, floors with the room and the room itself felt like straight from the 80's. The room had a jacuzzi, which we hopped into. She started with my feet, she had superb hands for a massage. I could feel the effort she's putting into it and she too knew I was enjoying it. Pulled me closer and lifted my hips till her beautiful perky boobs and gave a nice massage with hands and boobs. At this point I can see her eyes getting anxious to be fucked by my now hard cock. We stood up, she gave me a nice wash and told me to dry myself. She took a minute or so to clean herself and joined me on the bed.

Started with a BBBJ. That mouth of hers was some machine. The BBBJ was somewhat between a vaccum cleaner and sloppy. All I can say is my cock was completely under her control. She did try to swallow a few times, but had a gag reflex. A+ for effort. The ceiling over the bed had mirror which was nice to see myself getting blown.

Next, she put on a condom and started rubbing my pussy on her dick. She was wet and horny. Took it in nicely and she did the basic moves on top. She was fit- I could feel her abs popping with the motion and that just made me wild. I pushed her to under me and did missionary full speed -she enjoyed and took it like a charm. This made me even wilder. I carried her to the sofa and started doing doggy standing. She was so good with the posture and attitude, it felt like we had did this before. After some time, I felt she had an orgasm but not sure. She was going dry and it wasn't smooth anymore but her spirit was not "dry". We took a short break as I was feeling a bit thirsty. Ordered water to the room which was damn pricey, should have carried my own.

She offered to BBBJ me again, this time it was sloppy and a little bit play with her nails around my anus. After getting me erect, she asked me "how do you want me? The way she asked with her horny voice was so hot. We went to the bed and I started doggy again, her firm ass was irresistible. Had a few problems with the dryness but lube came in handy. Did her good for a few minutes then I stopped because her pussy was just getting dry and I can feel I have drained her completely. I said I wanted to cum over her face to which she agreed. She started sucking my balls and stroking me while looking into my eyes. I came all over her face in about 5 minutes.

Deed done, we sat, had some water and chit chat. She was so nice and polite, her english is a serious plus. We got a call from the lobby to close up in 10 minutes. She handed my clothes and told to dress up fast. We did, hurried to the lobby and said our good byes. I was so much in trance in this entire experience, I went outside and sat for a drink reminiscing the moments we spent together. I guess money can buy a few good things in life.

Damage. THB:

Girl: 4500 (mid tier).

Cocktail: 390.

Her cocktail: 250.

Water bottle room service: 100, tip 20.

Girl no 16:

1) Communication -10/10.

2) Boobs. Real, handful, medium sized - 7/10.

3) Pussy. Average tight, slight darker than her skin tone, clean shaven and smelled good - 7/10.

4) BBBJ - 10/10.

5) Sex - 10/10, horny and cooperative.

5) Face - 8/10, turns red when horny.

Overall if you are ok with the 5 k damage, I would say the deal is worth it. I am wondering what would the higher tier experience would be. Please share if you had experienced.Higher price means better looking girl,.

Lcale1982
12-17-23, 08:19
Hey guys, I've been reading about the TF app and I'm a little confused. I'm not really big on dating apps but from what I've read this seems to be one of the best apps to meet Thai women. All of the ladies so far, which is about 10 of them have responded to me right away and immediately they ask if I have whatsapp, Line app and telegraph. I've been wondering if this is a normal request from Thai women? Also most of the photos that I see seem to be highly enhanced and not genuine. Also if you want to communicate with some of the popular Thai women on this app you have to pay a monthly fee. Is this wise? And is there any other apps I can meet Thai women on? Thank you.They use other Apps most likely cause they didn't pay for TF so there's limits on how often they can respond. When I msg someone on TF I ask them for their Line since I don't subscribe to TF. I'm too cheap to subscribe to TF hah. Yeah there's airbrushing / filter images everywhere now. I have a separate Line account just for fun times. I feel like just don't do deposit and it would be hard to get scammed. Think I've meet with only like 10-15 ladies from TF and yea expect their image to usually look better than in real life.

11Bravo
12-17-23, 08:41
Hey guys, I've been reading about the TF app and I'm a little confused. I'm not really big on dating apps but from what I've read this seems to be one of the best apps to meet Thai women. All of the ladies so far, which is about 10 of them have responded to me right away and immediately they ask if I have whatsapp, Line app and telegraph. I've been wondering if this is a normal request from Thai women? Also most of the photos that I see seem to be highly enhanced and not genuine. Also if you want to communicate with some of the popular Thai women on this app you have to pay a monthly fee. Is this wise? And is there any other apps I can meet Thai women on? Thank you.Line is the instant messaging and social media app that just about all Thais use (the WeChat or WhatsApp of Thailand). Like those, it's more person to person rather than a forum. Seems they want to take the conversation off of the dating app and make it 1 to 1. Has chatting, along with voice and video calls (Line to Line).

I strongly suggest you load Line on your mobile before arriving. VERY useful for finding keepers again. Personally, the 3 year Covid gap didn't cause me any problems as I had my regulars Line contacts and easy to connect again.

PayForIt
12-17-23, 10:31
Late post. Visited La belle last month around 4 pm on a Friday.
Overall if you are ok with the 5 k damage, I would say the deal is worth it. I am wondering what would the higher tier experience would be. Please share if you had experienced.Great report. Other than La Belle, what other higher end soapies have you tried and how do you think they compare for facilities and quality of line up?

Ranvir 226
12-18-23, 04:34
Late post. Visited La belle last month around 4 pm on a Friday. I usually pick this time because the lineup starts expanding and girls aren't tired.

Line up of 10-12 girls on the main podium and 3-4 sideliners. Sideliners were model class, 2 of them reminded me of Jav models in Tokyo. But very pricey 10 k+ THB and I have a budget (not very good at maintaining it).

As soon as you enter the building, you get the vibe of a hotel. Walk in and there would a lounge area kind of setup for the podium and the seats from where you can watch the girls. Mamasan here is a smooth talker, you need to be careful around her. I felt most of the other dudes there were either Chinese or well off SE brats who were flashing Rolexes. I doubt they were rep watches, but I am not an expert.

I ordered rum and coke, had a seat. The lineup has tiers. Mamasan handed the price per tier list and explained me the terms. 2 hrs is the standard, anything above can be tailored separately.

Girls here are a good mix of breeds that would appeal Asian men. No. 16 caught my eye. 5'7" wheatish complexion, must be around 30. Curvy and enough fat at the right places. I told mamasan to call her and we talked, mamasan pushed me to buy her a cocktail. I don't know why but I just didn't say NO. I bought her a g&t. We talked for a while, her english was perfect, she asked me about me and was very excited to meet me. We finalized and moved to payment. Payment completed, straight up to the room in the lift.

The lift, floors with the room and the room itself felt like straight from the 80's. The room had a jacuzzi, which we hopped into. She started with my feet, she had superb hands for a massage. I could feel the effort she's putting into it and she too knew I was enjoying it. Pulled me closer and lifted my hips till her beautiful perky boobs and gave a nice massage with hands and boobs. At this point I can see her eyes getting anxious to be fucked by my now hard cock. We stood up, she gave me a nice wash and told me to dry myself. She took a minute or so to clean herself and joined me on the bed.

Started with a BBBJ. That mouth of hers was some machine. The BBBJ was somewhat between a vaccum cleaner and sloppy. All I can say is my cock was completely under her control. She did try to swallow a few times, but had a gag reflex. A+ for effort. The ceiling over the bed had mirror which was nice to see myself getting blown.

Next, she put on a condom and started rubbing my pussy on her dick. She was wet and horny. Took it in nicely and she did the basic moves on top. She was fit- I could feel her abs popping with the motion and that just made me wild. I pushed her to under me and did missionary full speed -she enjoyed and took it like a charm. This made me even wilder. I carried her to the sofa and started doing doggy standing. She was so good with the posture and attitude, it felt like we had did this before. After some time, I felt she had an orgasm but not sure. She was going dry and it wasn't smooth anymore but her spirit was not "dry". We took a short break as I was feeling a bit thirsty. Ordered water to the room which was damn pricey, should have carried my own.

She offered to BBBJ me again, this time it was sloppy and a little bit play with her nails around my anus. After getting me erect, she asked me "how do you want me? The way she asked with her horny voice was so hot. We went to the bed and I started doggy again, her firm ass was irresistible. Had a few problems with the dryness but lube came in handy. Did her good for a few minutes then I stopped because her pussy was just getting dry and I can feel I have drained her completely. I said I wanted to cum over her face to which she agreed. She started sucking my balls and stroking me while looking into my eyes. I came all over her face in about 5 minutes.

Deed done, we sat, had some water and chit chat. She was so nice and polite, her english is a serious plus. We got a call from the lobby to close up in 10 minutes. She handed my clothes and told to dress up fast. We did, hurried to the lobby and said our good byes. I was so much in trance in this entire experience, I went outside and sat for a drink reminiscing the moments we spent together. I guess money can buy a few good things in life.

Damage. THB:

Girl: 4500 (mid tier).

Cocktail: 390.

Her cocktail: 250.

Water bottle room service: 100, tip 20.

Girl no 16:

1) Communication -10/10.

2) Boobs. Real, handful, medium sized - 7/10.

3) Pussy. Average tight, slight darker than her skin tone, clean shaven and smelled good - 7/10.

4) BBBJ - 10/10.

5) Sex - 10/10, horny and cooperative.

5) Face - 8/10, turns red when horny.

Overall if you are ok with the 5 k damage, I would say the deal is worth it. I am wondering what would the higher tier experience would be. Please share if you had experienced.Dear bro. What is line ID or whatsapp no of la belle. They don't seem to have website. Can you help.

Duolingy
12-18-23, 12:16
Just came from Bali, it was my second trip. Have accumulated some really good contacts of freelancers that I used (found most of them on Tinder and Instagram). Willing to exchange for good contacts of freelancers in Bangkok / Pattaya / Phuket.

I have premium account here, you can message me if you do too. Thank you.

Llantarnam
12-18-23, 16:57
Hey guys, I've been reading about the TF app and I'm a little confused. I'm not really big on dating apps but from what I've read this seems to be one of the best apps to meet Thai women. All of the ladies so far, which is about 10 of them have responded to me right away and immediately they ask if I have whatsapp, Line app and telegraph. I've been wondering if this is a normal request from Thai women? Also most of the photos that I see seem to be highly enhanced and not genuine. Also if you want to communicate with some of the popular Thai women on this app you have to pay a monthly fee. Is this wise? And is there any other apps I can meet Thai women on? Thank you.You can have TF for free, but that limits the number of messages you can send. I also believe there is a limit on the type of things you can discuss on TF, so once you have found somebody you want to meet move over to Line and you can be more explicit about what you are looking for.

I find a lot of TF girls don't read your messages (maybe just me). Also I've had several that answered the first message confirming they were freelancers, but didn't respond for a request for a meeting.

As the late great Jimmy Greaves use to say, it's a funny old game!

Nyezhov
12-18-23, 19:07
Dear bro. What is line ID or whatsapp no of la belle. They don't seem to have website. Can you help.Dear bro,

Did you need to quote that entire report just to ask that question? Did you Google first? By the way, do you speak Thai so that when you line or WhatsApp the place you can ask a coherent question?

Nyezhov
12-18-23, 19:09
Just came from Bali, it was my second trip. Have accumulated some really good contacts of freelancers that I used (found most of them on Tinder and Instagram). Willing to exchange for good contacts of freelancers in Bangkok / Pattaya / Phuket.

I have premium account here, you can message me if you do too. Thank you.Words fail me.

Deej6780
12-18-23, 21:58
Hi all,

Will be returning to Bangkok after around 10 years. Last time I was there, there was a soapy massage place known as Amsterdam. I understand it's since closed, wondering what would be an equivalent place nowadays?

Many thanks!

Forty Drinks
12-19-23, 04:18
Dear bro,

Did you need to quote that entire report just to ask that question? Did you Google first? By the way, do you speak Thai so that when you line or WhatsApp the place you can ask a coherent question?Go see Nana Plaza School girl to calm your nerves.

Ranvir 226
12-19-23, 04:51
Dear bro,

Did you need to quote that entire report just to ask that question? Did you Google first? By the way, do you speak Thai so that when you line or WhatsApp the place you can ask a coherent question?1. full repot was not required. Mistake. Oh lord. Forgive me for this sin.

2. googled. But could not get details.

3. no thai. But almost everybody there are ok with english.

4. if you have line ID. Please help.

EverythingThai
12-19-23, 05:20
Dear bro,

Did you need to quote that entire report just to ask that question? Did you Google first? By the way, do you speak Thai so that when you line or WhatsApp the place you can ask a coherent question?Did it really hurt you for this member to quote the whole report? Are you the owner of ISG? Did some needle piece your heart after the op hit the submit button? OMG. By the way, the staff here speak English and Chinese, as well as Thai of course.


1. full repot was not required. Mistake. Oh lord. Forgive me for this sin.

2. googled. But could not get details.

3. no thai. But almost everybody there are ok with english.

4. if you have line ID. Please help.If you go to their website there is a contact form. Fill in your question and send it to them. Or you can make a call to them direct using their local Thai number and ask. I can't post the website here as it's not allowed. After your 1st visit, one of the popasons or momasons will give you their line Ids and then you can contact them directly. There is not a general what's app or line for the shop.

FilthyBeaver
12-19-23, 05:27
Haven't been there in about a year but when Amsterdam closed several years ago ownership took over Emanuelle and girls and mams / papas moved there. Any soapy on Ratchada will give you the same experience, Maria, Poseidon, La Belle are all reasonable walking distance from their nearest MRT stations. There are others but not as convenient of you're using public transit.

It was always my second favorite behind Nataree but unfortunately looks like that entire business model is unsustainable in the modern world when competing with freelancers and apps and other businesses with much lower overhead in a relatively high rent area due to gentrification.


Hi all,

Will be returning to Bangkok after around 10 years. Last time I was there, there was a soapy massage place known as Amsterdam. I understand it's since closed, wondering what would be an equivalent place nowadays?

Many thanks!

Nyezhov
12-19-23, 05:54
1. full repot was not required. Mistake. Oh lord. Forgive me for this sin.

2. googled. But could not get details.

3. no thai. But almost everybody there are ok with english.

4. if you have line ID. Please help.How do you know everybody there is okay with English? Have you talked to them before?

11Bravo
12-19-23, 08:52
Did it really hurt you for this member to quote the whole report? Nyezhov and I don't agree on a lot of things, well make that most things, but this is one I have to second. Certainly NOT unique to this forum, but damn... No, it doesn't crash the server, but it's just a PITA, especially if you're taking a look on a mobile. And yes, I do have trouble scrolling with my fingers; well, at least on a phone. And given a senior member can edit his post within some time (hour?) easy to take a look and fix errors AND the DAMN auto-correcting, auto formatting... And is that cracking sound the sound of hell freezing over when Nyezhov and I agree on something? No, I don't take it seriously, but still...



Just came back from Jakarta & Bali after spending a month and man oh man, the quality of freelancers available on tinder in Bali and reasonable price (500 k to 700 k) they charge as compare to other countries, I am seriously amazed.

And the gems I found in Classic hotel at just 365 k, wow!Just came from Bali, it was my second trip. Have accumulated some really good contacts of freelancers that I used (found most of them on Tinder and Instagram). Willing to exchange for good contacts of freelancers in Bangkok / Pattaya / Phuket.

I have premium account here, you can message me if you do too. Thank you.Not that I'm a skeptic or anything, but there's just no way to verify said contacts... And it sounds like it's pretty easy to DIY. And since we're not identical twins, who knows if we'd have the same tastes, interests, and experiences.

And finally, why are there so few (0) FR's describing any of your successes posted? Yea, I know, so many successes, so little time to report. So, call me (I say self-confident, you say conceited), but I'll take the risk, even with my fumbling fingers, of doing my own shopping. Always have because I am the best judge of good. But good luck.

And why are there so many "and"'s in the above?

TiredOf
12-19-23, 16:24
Hey guys,

I'm visiting Bangkok for 2nd time in upcoming week for 10 days, need some recommendation.

Heard about fiwfans a lot, although didn't try it. Do you recommend using it instead of picking street freelancers? If yes, can recommend any hotel near bulk of fiwfans girls.

Last time mostly stuck to smooci, although some girls were good (which I will repeat), but many were bad / average. So I'm not trying new girls at least. Since its expensive than street or fiwfans.

Also I'm a big fan of BBBJs, best part for me whenever I visit Thailand, have tried 2 girls in BJ bars which was unforgettable from last time.

Can recommend any bars / parlours / or anything where can enjoy BBBJ to the fullest?

Thanks!

Deej6780
12-19-23, 19:38
Haven't been there in about a year but when Amsterdam closed several years ago ownership took over Emanuelle and girls and mams / papas moved there. Any soapy on Ratchada will give you the same experience, Maria, Poseidon, La Belle are all reasonable walking distance from their nearest MRT stations. There are others but not as convenient of you're using public transit.

It was always my second favorite behind Nataree but unfortunately looks like that entire business model is unsustainable in the modern world when competing with freelancers and apps and other businesses with much lower overhead in a relatively high rent area due to gentrification.Awesome, thanks for the advice. Will add those to the list and see how I get on with freelancers. Always preferred stopping off somewhere, having my fun the going about the rest of my day. Similar to a German FKK, everything on site, don't have to worry about accommodation etc.

Belvaros
12-19-23, 23:37
Hey guys,

I'm visiting Bangkok for 2nd time in upcoming week for 10 days, need some recommendation.

Heard about fiwfans a lot, although didn't try it. Do you recommend using it instead of picking street freelancers? If yes, can recommend any hotel near bulk of fiwfans girls.

Last time mostly stuck to smooci, although some girls were good (which I will repeat), but many were bad / average. So I'm not trying new girls at least. Since its expensive than street or fiwfans.

Also I'm a big fan of BBBJs, best part for me whenever I visit Thailand, have tried 2 girls in BJ bars which was unforgettable from last time.

Can recommend any bars / parlours / or anything where can enjoy BBBJ to the fullest?

Thanks!Spend 3 hours reading the last 40 pages of this forum. It has EXACT places to go, what you can get, sometimes prices, sometimes pics, girls names etc, some people here have girls LINE IDs which we share with each other etc.

Then read the BKK thread for hotels, then read the BKK massage threads. Everything is here and a 6-7 hour pre trip education is yours for FREE.

Many people spend a lot of time and money doing this, me included and then share it for free by reporting via this forum. There is great intel right here.

So RTFF.

FilthyBeaver
12-20-23, 06:30
I hate hanging out in loud go gos, communicating in Thaiglish, and the walk of shame. There's also an air of quality control, within reason, at a soapy if she tries to cut time short or doesn't do what you were told she did in the booking phase. I'm not a picky monger so I've never had to complain but kniw plenty of people who have. FKK is a good analogy the two main differences are lack of mamas and papas and for the most part everyone in an FKK speaks really good or passable English. The deeper you dive down the soapy hole the less and less likely the girl will speak any English at all.


Awesome, thanks for the advice. Will add those to the list and see how I get on with freelancers. Always preferred stopping off somewhere, having my fun the going about the rest of my day. Similar to a German FKK, everything on site, don't have to worry about accommodation etc.

Ranvir 226
12-20-23, 06:46
How do you know everybody there is okay with English? Have you talked to them before?Dear respected honurable member. Millions of foreign tourist visits thailand every year. Even one percent of them will not know one alphabet of thai native lanuage. Its so elementary my nyezhov watson.

If you could share line / telegram / whatapp no of la belle.

I will be indebted.

Ranvir 226
12-20-23, 06:49
Did it really hurt you for this member to quote the whole report? Are you the owner of ISG? Did some needle piece your heart after the op hit the submit button? OMG. By the way, the staff here speak English and Chinese, as well as Thai of course.

If you go to their website there is a contact form. Fill in your question and send it to them. Or you can make a call to them direct using their local Thai number and ask. I can't post the website here as it's not allowed. After your 1st visit, one of the popasons or momasons will give you their line Ids and then you can contact them directly. There is not a general what's app or line for the shop.Thanks for your guidance.

11Bravo
12-20-23, 12:30
So RTFF.For a very (I say select, you say OLD) group:

"READ?" said in the voice of Maynard G Krebbs...

Besides this thread, there's always the ROD's, and there is the venerable UTFSE.

And chime in, "Basketball", with your "just ask questions"... ignoring the actual work and info others have provided.

Forty Drinks
12-20-23, 12:49
For a very (I say select, you say OLD) group:

"READ?" said in the voice of Maynard G Krebbs...

Besides this thread, there's always the ROD's, and there is the venerable UTFSE.

And chime in, "Basketball", with your "just ask questions"... ignoring the actual work and info others have provided.No offense but Rttf you encounter lots of Jibberish only Nana School could understand.

EverythingThai
12-20-23, 13:24
Nyezhov and I don't agree on a lot of things, well make that most things, but this is one I have to second. Certainly NOT unique to this forum, but damn... No, it doesn't crash the server, but it's just a PITA, especially if you're taking a look on a mobile. And yes, I do have trouble scrolling with my fingers; well, at least on a phone. And given a senior member can edit his post within some time (hour?) easy to take a look and fix errors AND the DAMN auto-correcting, auto formatting... And is that cracking sound the sound of hell freezing over when Nyezhov and I agree on something? No, I don't take it seriously, but still...

Not that I'm a skeptic or anything, but there's just no way to verify said contacts... And it sounds like it's pretty easy to DIY. And since we're not identical twins, who knows if we'd have the same tastes, interests, and experiences.

And finally, why are there so few (0) FR's describing any of your successes posted? Yea, I know, so many successes, so little time to report. So, call me (I say self-confident, you say conceited), but I'll take the risk, even with my fumbling fingers, of doing my own shopping. Always have because I am the best judge of good. But good luck.

And why are there so many "and"'s in the above?Ya ok. To each their own.

Llantarnam
12-20-23, 17:33
Currently in Hua Hin, but moving back to BKK in a couple of days time so I thought I would try to make a few contacts on TF. Most wanted 2 - 3 k for short time, but one (who admittedly was a bit of a looker) asked for 20 k.

I was tempted to ask her if she had the decimal point in the wrong place, but thought it's probably best just to move on. Still, if you never ask you never get, and she'd probably be crap in bed anyway.

TConor
12-20-23, 17:50
Currently in Hua Hin, but moving back to BKK in a couple of days time so I thought I would try to make a few contacts on TF. Most wanted 2 - 3 k for short time, but one (who admittedly was a bit of a looker) asked for 20 k.

I was tempted to ask her if she had the decimal point in the wrong place, but thought it's probably best just to move on. Still, if you never ask you never get, and she'd probably be crap in bed anyway.They have their head up their asses.

Roll8426
12-20-23, 20:03
I've always appreciated pioneers and explorers passing down their experiences and latest findings overseas. Helped me a lot over the years preparing to visit new locales or discover hidden gems.

In the spirit of sharing, I'm posting some travel notes of my brief vacation back in Bangkok last month:

Day 1

Analisa Massage

Shortly after checking in, I returned to Analisa Massage as part of my usual post-arrival relaxation ritual. Picked the 90 min 4-hands massage w FS for 4,890 be. I've always noticed that for 4-hands massages they assign the cliched pairing of 2 girls that I'll rank at be and see respectively, at least in my opinion. Doesn't affect the quality of massage, just. Aesthetics.

The oil massage and glory hole teasing is good as usual, and the long duration really helped me to unwind and hang loose (haha). The FS was ok and it was mildly interesting when I came with the first girl (covered) and the 2nd whined that she was all wet and didn't get her turn. Not sure if it's a practiced ego-boosting routine.

Thermae Cafe

Dropped by around 9 pm for some window shopping. Damn it's crowded. I see only about a couple girls that look delicious but decided to bail due to the lack of vibes.

Nana Plaza

Spent a good deal of time bar hopping in NP to look at the girls there. I can usually see 1-2 pretty nice girls in most bars, which to me means there's a fair bit of good choices all around this time. In the end, barfined a girl from Mandarin (2nd floor) who's just my type with a pretty hot slim body. During the half hour when she sat with me for a few LDs, she's sitting on my lap, grinding and deep frenching me the whole while. Yep, got vibe for this one.

BF + ST for 4,000 be. I realize she's high as a kite and goes with anything I want, so let's just say I enjoyed this session. I also gave a tip at the end but I'm not disclosing the amount.

Day 2

Aries Massage

This is my first time at Aries. Their specialty is nuru massage and I paid 4,500 be for a 75 min session with Hikaru who I booked in advance a day earlier via Line. My first thoughts were that compared to the pics, Hikaru in the flesh was a bit more Thai tanned and her face looks a little like a Thai maid, but still acceptable because she's slim and nubile as advertised. However she really grew on me throughout the service.

I've been a connoisseur of nuru from the land of the rising sun for quite some time, and although I acknowledge the art is deep and what's good really depends on what you're looking for, to me one of the perks of a really good nuru is the mouth and tongue work.

Apparently Aries Massage and Hikaru truly understood this. To the point I would say that Aries ranks in my top 3 BKK nuru joints together with Mitu and LCE. Nuru catbath back and front of body, testicles, penis, and yes even a little rimming. Good stuff. FS was okay. Overall service was good.

Nana Plaza

Returned to NP again to visit the rest of the gogo bars I missed yesterday.

Spent most of the night at Butterflies (3rd floor) because since my last visit, they now have a special pole dance shows every hour by a professional pole dancer. She's local, looks to be in her late 30's, (told me her name but I forgot) and spent her time between shows drinking shots with me and explaining that she took special lessons in BKK to learn professional pole dancing.

Her entire body so muscled (athletic type), she could make individual body parts twitch on command and strike various perpendicular poses to the pole and spin around it by just grasping it with her thighs. Unfortunately for you perverts (and for me), I didn't proposition her afterwards because I was really drunk. But for those wondering, I think she might be open to it but only after all her shows are over around 12:30 am.

My last bar was the Red Dragon (2nd floor, next to Mandarin). The mamasan here was a good friend of mine and recommended a couple girls who really look SYT and demure, which I would have taken in a heartbeat any other time. Overall my personal opinion is this bar is top 3 in NP if you're looking for a good selection of SYTs.

Day 3

Butterfly Massage

Booked Lyn Linh in advance yesterday. Compared to her pics, she's vastly subpar, with kind of bad baby damage, flabs and stretch marks. Face was still alright though. However, when walking in I saw Peepo, who conversely looked so much better than her pics. Seriously, Peepo looked A rank on my SYT meter. I thought about returning for her the following day but then the recep said Peepo's not working the next few days. Bummer.

Anyway, paid 2,600 be for 60 min soapy with Lyn Linh. Kind of toughed it out and got it over with. Room was old but not danky, though there were a couple mosquitos annoying the hell out of me the entire time. (I chose not to engage because I didn't think I would win. They were huge.).

Soi Cowboy

Walked the strip and didn't see anything noteworthy. Crazy House was packed as usual. Interesting it was the first time I realized Baccara had 3 levels; maybe the previous time I visited the 3rd level was closed. But what's the point of hiding girls in the 3rd level?

Thermae Cafe

Dropped by for a look-see. Selection's still pretty meh.

Day 4

7-Heaven

Still one of the better remaining BJ bars in BKK. However, I did notice that every time I've been here, there were other people (usually Japanese) before and after me, which means the selections always slim due to the traffic, and most of the girls seem tired which means service can be rushed or mechanical.

Ended up picking Lin again due to "slim pickings", who I picked the last time I was here. Paid 1,800 be for BJ and nude option, I think. Interesting, she looked confused when she saw me, eventually asking if we met before and then I confessed yes.

The good thing about Lin is her looks are fine, speaks English, and is a bit "mischievous", which is great if you like word foreplay. However I would grade her BBBJ at. Around 4/10. But she does make up for it somewhat with a never-quit attitude and is receptive to "light" suggestions to make you cum faster. Still, if I have a choice I'll like to try the others next times.

Check In Bar

It's a ladyboy bar, filled with pre-op LBs. I've been here a few times and like it for the more laid-back vibe compared to the gogo LB bars in Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy (where they pressure you to barfine almost as soon as you sit down). At Check In Bar, you can just chill, have some drinks, chat up the ladies, play a few rounds of pool with them, etc.

I linked up with my regular gal Jessie and had a fun few hours chilling and playing pool with everyone. Eventually we retired for ST upstairs (they have a ST room) but because I overran the time, I paid her 5,000 be total including the room cost. The barfine was around 800 be I think, paid separately to the mamasan.

Final day

Analisa Massage

Had a final massage at Analisa before heading to the airport for my departure. 3,500 be for 90 min 4-hands tantra (CBJ happy ending, no FS). Still good and relaxing.

Hope you enjoyed my journal.

Feel free to PM me if you want to exchange Line contacts to chiong in BKK in future or exchange info.

BTW, I'm also curious about something and would really appreciate any advice or tips from more seasoned folks on this forum:

Every trip, I can see some older non-local guy who's with a younger really hot Thai chick walking pass or in the gogo bars or RCA clubs. And I can tell the guy is a short-time tourist and not a relationship with the girl but in some kind of possibly sugardaddy or mistress arrangement.

I'm wondering how does one get started with something like this, that doesn't involve learning Thai, spending a ridiculous amount of time on ThaiFriendly (which I don't even think is where you can find hot girls anyway) or outright engaging paid escorts.

However all the advice I get is for MILF types, ala booty-call arrangements. Which I assure everyone I don't need more of. What I'm interested in is how to find SYTs looking for sugerdaddy-type arrangements in essentially part-time or the occasional week which works with foreigners that don't stay in Thailand but instead visit frequently.

Appreciate any advice or PM me if you have any insights please. Seriously.

Tomasb
12-21-23, 08:40
Read your detailed report and some good nuggets of info in there. That being said, and since this is your first post, let it be known that LB discussions are strictly verboten here unless I missed a recent policy change. And all things being equal, I don't understand how you could possibly pay 5. 000 bt fee for the experience since you "overran the time" in your words. The 800 Bt bar fine sounds reasonable enough but that leaves paying over odds of 4200 bt in a LB bar. It sounds like you were taken for a proverbial ride?

11Bravo
12-21-23, 10:15
Feel free to PM me if you want to exchange Line contacts to chiong in BKK in future or exchange info.
Appreciate any advice or PM me if you have any insights please. Seriously.
FIRST, you need to be a member or enough posts (25?, been so long, can't remember and the FAQ is a bit unclear) to have a PM capability. Nice FR, but will 2nd the notion that LB's are not the subject of this forum.


No offense but Rttf you encounter lots of Jibberish only Nana School could understand.Likewise, no offense, but a lot of the gibberish here is single source, Basketball.

Nyezhov
12-21-23, 10:46
It was nice and cool, so I took the ferry to Saphan Taksin, ate some noodles and picked up some fab weed at Hamilton and Friends in the alley right off the corner of Charoen Krung near the escalator, then off to the gutter.

This was between 9 and 11 pm.

Thermae: dead, virtually empty.

Streets were light on Girls, Ladyboys and Africans.

School girl was wearing pink. Close inspection renders her even scarier.

Excellent lineup in Billboard, excellent lineup in rainbow for, excellent lineup in geisha.

It was quiet on deaf girl row.

Monsters from hell at Kasalong and woodbar. I didn't check out Lolita's because I was still gibbering in fear and terror from Kasalong.

Roll8426
12-21-23, 16:51
Read your detailed report and some good nuggets of info in there. That being said, and since this is your first post, let it be known that LB discussions are strictly verboten here unless I missed a recent policy change. And all things being equal, I don't understand how you could possibly pay 5. 000 bt fee for the experience since you "overran the time" in your words. The 800 Bt bar fine sounds reasonable enough but that leaves paying over odds of 4200 bt in a LB bar. It sounds like you were taken for a proverbial ride?Noted on the no LB rule. Thanks for the reminder.

Just one final clarification before I let this encounter disappear into the archives: the 5 k baht was for ST + room + time overrun, in aggregate. I think it was a little on the pricey side but still fair. The 800 baht barfine was on top of all this, so the total cost came to basically 5.8 k baht, not including drinks.

Cristof1492
12-22-23, 02:25
I see some users are reporting, in the Bangkok hotels thread, of customers bringing back duo of girls at hotel. But how do you hire a duo in the first place? Through an escort agency?

Banana Boi
12-22-23, 04:49
But how do you hire a duo in the first place?Go to a bar, pick up 2 girls. Go to 2 different bars, pick up the hottest girl in each bar. Pick up a girl at a bar, have her show you all her friends available and you get her to call her hottest friend to join you. Hold 10,000 baht in the air and walk through Thermae. Go to a massage joint and get a duo. Go to Terminal 21 with a sign around you saying you are searching for a duo.

Vrsabien
12-22-23, 05:31
Butterfly Massage
Booked Lyn Linh in advance yesterday. Compared to her pics, she's vastly subpar, with kind of bad baby damage, flabs and stretch marks. Face was still alright though. However, when walking in I saw Peepo, who conversely looked so much better than her pics. Seriously, Peepo looked A rank on my SYT meter. I thought about returning for her the following day but then the recep said Peepo's not working the next few days. Bummer.
Which lady is Peepo as the website not got that name listed:

https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/lady_page-e.html

Llantarnam
12-22-23, 05:39
Go to a bar, pick up 2 girls. Go to 2 different bars, pick up the hottest girl in each bar. Pick up a girl at a bar, have her show you all her friends available and you get her to call her hottest friend to join you. Hold 10,000 baht in the air and walk through Thermae. Go to a massage joint and get a duo. Go to Terminal 21 with a sign around you saying you are searching for a duo.Been in Hua Hin before recent return to BKK.

Over the course of my stay hooked up with 3 different girls in HH. When I casually mentioned the chance of a thresome they all looked horrified. Maybe better luck in BKK.

Betong
12-22-23, 09:58
I've always noticed that for 4-hands massages they assign the cliched pairing of 2 girls that I'll rank at be and see respectively, at least in my opinion.Ah yes, that annoying autocorrect here that won't let you type single letters. Anyhow, for the record, girls are not "assigned" at Analisa or similar places (Passion, Paradise, Kiss etc.). Whether you want one or two, you can and should choose them yourself. If you don't they'll just give you whoever most needs the work, and that's usually not good.

Forty Drinks
12-22-23, 13:12
Ah yes, that annoying autocorrect here that won't let you type single letters. Anyhow, for the record, girls are not "assigned" at Analisa or similar places (Passion, Paradise, Kiss etc.). Whether you want one or two, you can and should choose them yourself. If you don't they'll just give you whoever most needs the work, and that's usually not good.1st up are the Ugly Muglies is True. Momma and poppa will always refer to them as Good Service. Hahaha. Hahaha.

Nyezhov
12-22-23, 13:25
I see some users are reporting, in the Bangkok hotels thread, of customers bringing back duo of girls at hotel. But how do you hire a duo in the first place? Through an escort agency?10000 baht for a duo out of Billboard. You want to make sure that your duo involves serious pussy licking by the girls instead of just taking turns. At my age, I don't need turns, I like the show better.

Nyezhov
12-22-23, 13:28
Loads of Burkha babes on Soi Nana. I guess if you have the fetish.

No, they weren't attractive.

Roll8426
12-22-23, 16:50
Which lady is Peepo as the website not got that name listed:

https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/lady_page-e.htmlI don't see her on the website anymore either, which means either it's not updated or they took her off.

Peepo was listed in the photos I got from their Line when I inquired which ladies were available tomorrow. You might have better luck inquiring with them directly via Line. Her photos were a be- to me at the time but seeing her in real life totally crushed that perception.

Llantarnam
12-22-23, 17:04
Loads of Burkha babes on Soi Nana. I guess if you have the fetish.

No, they weren't attractive.If they had a burkha on how could you tell?

GatorAk
12-23-23, 01:42
Long flight from LAX. Singapore-Bangkok. Arrived at 11 am to be pleasantly surprised by the short lines. I was expecting it to be busier than it was.

I stayed one night so I could attend my buddy's proposal party at the Octave bar.

Since I only had limited time I called an outcall massage services: https://www.bangkokoutcallservice.com.

Full service session with a decent massage for 5000 baht. Session lasted close to three hours. I was happy at the end with my choice.

I will be back in Bangkok after few days in Pattaya.

Doing this report on my phone and quickly too. This is my second attempt since the first report got deleted by accident.

Nyezhov
12-23-23, 03:50
Long flight from LAX. Singapore-Bangkok. Arrived at 11 am to be pleasantly surprised by the short lines. I was expecting it to be busier than it was.

I stayed one night so I could attend my buddy's proposal party at the Octave bar.

Since I only had limited time I called an outcall massage services: https://www.bangkokoutcallservice.com.

Full service session with a decent massage for 5000 baht. Session lasted close to three hours. I was happy at the end with my choice.

I will be back in Bangkok after few days in Pattaya.

Doing this report on my phone and quickly too. This is my second attempt since the first report got deleted by accident.Tell me about that flight I'm thinking of doing it in the summertime. That being from Singapore to LAX on Singapore airlines?

Nyezhov
12-23-23, 03:59
If they had a burkha on how could you tell?Well possibly the dumbest question I've ever seen, but here, let me explain to you that if you see a burka babe On the streets of Bangkok offering herself to all and sundry, you can bet your bippy that she's unattractive.

And even under the billowing Burkas You can see the outline of lumpy asses and jiggling hips and boobs that probably look like my grandma's with nipples pointing to the toes.

And let me add that they wear face exposing burqas so that you can judge the length of their mustache.

The thought of banging one makes me shudder. The whole package is as bad as a fat assed African in a cheap dirty dress with cheap skewed wig.

Maddy69
12-23-23, 13:58
Any recommendations for my wife and me as a couple in Bangkok?

Many nuru places and fiwfans ladies don't seem to be too much open for threesome action.

Any recommendations besides Nana? Could be expensive, we just would like to get fun.

Tomasb
12-23-23, 14:42
Amen to those sentiments.


Well possibly the dumbest question I've ever seen, but here, let me explain to you that if you see a burka babe On the streets of Bangkok offering herself to all and sundry, you can bet your bippy that she's unattractive.

And even under the billowing Burkas You can see the outline of lumpy asses and jiggling hips and boobs that probably look like my grandma's with nipples pointing to the toes.

And let me add that they wear face exposing burqas so that you can judge the length of their mustache.

The thought of banging one makes me shudder. The whole package is as bad as a fat assed African in a cheap dirty dress with cheap skewed wig.

Tomasb
12-23-23, 14:46
Thanks for the honest clarification but in reality that is far from "fair". That price is an all nighters with a hottie from Billboard.


Noted on the no LB rule. Thanks for the reminder.

Just one final clarification before I let this encounter disappear into the archives: the 5 k baht was for ST + room + time overrun, in aggregate. I think it was a little on the pricey side but still fair. The 800 baht barfine was on top of all this, so the total cost came to basically 5.8 k baht, not including drinks.

Martin39
12-23-23, 15:58
I have an upcoming trip to Thailand early February but can only use the last day and night to have some fun. Can't check things out before because of work colleagues but my flight is 1 day later. I am looking for recommendations and feedback what to do. I am planning to go during the afternoon to a soapie or similar place, then have dinner and then plan to go out to have some drinks and fun bringing somebody back to the hotel. Because it's one day only I am willing to spend more for convenience, looks and good service but still within reasonable limits. I am a white a bit older guy.

My hotel is not too far from Nana plaza (google says 14 minutes walking to Billboard).

What place would you recommend for the afternoon for a first round? Saw recent recommendations like La Belle and then also the various soapies that were recommended.

I looked at evening options and can't decide between going to Pimp or Nana Plaza (Billboard, Butterflies, .). I am looking to drink a bit, enjoy my time with a girl at the place, listen to some music, see the shows, and if she passes take her to the hotel for ST or LT. Can most girls at Pimp be taken out? Are my chances at Pimp higher to find a quality girl? I am aware of Pimps pricing and assume I will spend 10 k or more there. What are the take out fees at Pimp? Or is it better to go to Billboard, Butterflies, Rainbow 5, … and do some bar hopping?

Thanks for any feedback.

I have mongered in Asia (Manila, Hongkong and China during their better days) but have no experience in Thailand.

Maddy69
12-23-23, 18:09
Any recommendations for nice threesome action with my wife in Bangkok? Most girls on Fiw seem not interested in threesome. And Parlours often answer on lime that not possible.

Steve 9696
12-23-23, 18:37
I have an upcoming trip to Thailand early February but can only use the last day and night to have some fun. Can't check things out before because of work colleagues but my flight is 1 day later. I am looking for recommendations and feedback what to do. I am planning to go during the afternoon to a soapie or similar place, then have dinner and then plan to go out to have some drinks and fun bringing somebody back to the hotel. Because it's one day only I am willing to spend more for convenience, looks and good service but still within reasonable limits. I am a white a bit older guy.

My hotel is not too far from Nana plaza (google says 14 minutes walking to Billboard).

What place would you recommend for the afternoon for a first round? Saw recent recommendations like La Belle and then also the various soapies that were recommended.

I looked at evening options and can't decide between going to Pimp or Nana Plaza (Billboard, Butterflies, .). I am looking to drink a bit, enjoy my time with a girl at the place, listen to some music, see the shows, and if she passes take her to the hotel for ST or LT. Can most girls at Pimp be taken out? Are my chances at Pimp higher to find a quality girl? I am aware of Pimps pricing and assume I will spend 10 k or more there. What are the take out fees at Pimp? Or is it better to go to Billboard, Butterflies, Rainbow 5, and do some bar hopping?

Thanks for any feedback.

I have mongered in Asia (Manila, Hongkong and China during their better days) but have no experience in Thailand.I have never been to Pimp. From the web it looks fun but shockingly expensive. Regardless, it's A club not a venue with many clubs. I would recommend Nana to get the true Bangkok gogo experience. Have a beer down in the central courtyard and just take it in - 20+ clubs all lit up in neon with pretty girls all wanting to fuck you. Billboard is an amazing experience. I would def go there. A ton of hot girls. The soapy hot tub and the rotating cameltoe stage! It's just great fun to soak it up. Butterflies is similar but less party vibe and younger and less silicone imo. Rainbow seems popular but I never went.

But my general advice is to do the REAL Bangkok gogo experience and Nana is great for that.

For the soapy Poseidon has always worked for us. No complaints.

Viker14
12-23-23, 18:41
I want to plan a solo trip to Bangkok during last week of December. Can any seniors please suggest if this is a good time for mongering in Bangkok? In terms of availability of girls during this time.

CaliGuy33
12-23-23, 19:37
Long flight from LAX. Singapore-Bangkok. Arrived at 11 am to be pleasantly surprised by the short lines. I was expecting it to be busier than it was.

I stayed one night so I could attend my buddy's proposal party at the Octave bar.

Since I only had limited time I called an outcall massage services: https://www.bangkokoutcallservice.com.

Full service session with a decent massage for 5000 baht. Session lasted close to three hours. I was happy at the end with my choice.

I will be back in Bangkok after few days in Pattaya.

Doing this report on my phone and quickly too. This is my second attempt since the first report got deleted by accident.Goodness LaX to Singapore must be a 16 or so hour flight, I can't do that. I prefer to fly from the west coast to Japan and stay a few days there and then go to Thailand.

Vendelo
12-24-23, 01:09
Every trip, I can see some older non-local guy who's with a younger really hot Thai chick walking pass or in the gogo bars or RCA clubs. And I can tell the guy is a short-time tourist and not a relationship with the girl but in some kind of possibly sugardaddy or mistress arrangement.

I'm wondering how does one get started with something like this, that doesn't involve learning Thai, spending a ridiculous amount of time on ThaiFriendly (which I don't even think is where you can find hot girls anyway) or outright engaging paid escorts.

However all the advice I get is for MILF types, ala booty-call arrangements. Which I assure everyone I don't need more of. What I'm interested in is how to find SYTs looking for sugerdaddy-type arrangements in essentially part-time or the occasional week which works with foreigners that don't stay in Thailand but instead visit frequently.

Appreciate any advice or PM me if you have any insights please. Seriously.Try Seeking dot com.

Forty Drinks
12-24-23, 01:37
I have an upcoming trip to Thailand early February but can only use the last day and night to have some fun. Can't check things out before because of work colleagues but my flight is 1 day later. I am looking for recommendations and feedback what to do. I am planning to go during the afternoon to a soapie or similar place, then have dinner and then plan to go out to have some drinks and fun bringing somebody back to the hotel. Because it's one day only I am willing to spend more for convenience, looks and good service but still within reasonable limits. I am a white a bit older guy.

My hotel is not too far from Nana plaza (google says 14 minutes walking to Billboard).

What place would you recommend for the afternoon for a first round? Saw recent recommendations like La Belle and then also the various soapies that were recommended.

I looked at evening options and can't decide between going to Pimp or Nana Plaza (Billboard, Butterflies, .). I am looking to drink a bit, enjoy my time with a girl at the place, listen to some music, see the shows, and if she passes take her to the hotel for ST or LT. Can most girls at Pimp be taken out? Are my chances at Pimp higher to find a quality girl? I am aware of Pimps pricing and assume I will spend 10 k or more there. What are the take out fees at Pimp? Or is it better to go to Billboard, Butterflies, Rainbow 5, and do some bar hopping?

Thanks for any feedback.

I have mongered in Asia (Manila, Hongkong and China during their better days) but have no experience in Thailand.This is an Example of Unrealistic Expectattions.

Even the most Hardened of us would have a 1% chance of attaining what you want in 1 day.

I'm niot Hardened to be Transparent.

Theres a reason you see posts mainly about FuckFans, Social Media, etc.

PayForIt
12-24-23, 01:51
I have an upcoming trip to Thailand early February but can only use the last day and night to have some fun.

I looked at evening options and can't decide between going to Pimp or Nana Plaza (Billboard, Butterflies, .). I am looking to drink a bit, enjoy my time with a girl at the place, listen to some music, see the shows, and if she passes take her to the hotel for ST or LT. Can most girls at Pimp be taken out? Are my chances at Pimp higher to find a quality girl? I am aware of Pimps pricing and assume I will spend 10 k or more there. What are the take out fees at Pimp? Or is it better to go to Billboard, Butterflies, Rainbow 5, and do some bar hopping?

Thanks for any feedback.

I have mongered in Asia (Manila, Hongkong and China during their better days) but have no experience in Thailand.Follow Steve 9696's advice. I have been to Pimp twice now. I only went the second time because I did not believe it could be as disappointing as the first. It was! Here are the pros and cons of Pimp. Pros. There is a very large line up of girls and the majority (but not all) of them are good quality with one or two stand outs. Probably fair to say the quality is better than any of the bars you will find in Nana. Billboard and Butterflies are decent with some good options but you will be looking at the girls dancing on stage in Pimp and thinking you made a good choice. Providing you have money to burn you could well find the place amazing. Another pro. The private rooms you take girls to are better than your hotel. Some have their own pool table and KTV (Karaoke facility). It is high standard. The rooms are superb and the shows on stay and music are far better than the loud din of Nana. Here are the cons. It's miles from anywhere! You'll be in a cab for 30 minutes if you are are only 14 minutes from Nana. No big deal if you leave early enough. Next con. It is soul-less. Ok you are going for girl company not the vibe, but because the pricing is off the scale you will find that (a) there are not a lot of guys there (b) when a crowd of (mainly Korean) guys do appear they keep themselves to themselves but the the girls know they are big spenders and you may find unless you pick quickly you suddenly get little attention from the best lookers. The prices of drinks and rooms are high. You will be expected to buy a bottle of something (not great if you expect to stay sober ish to perform). You mentioned spending 10 k or more. It's the latter and by some margin. Budget for 20-25 k. You won't be taking girls out of Pimp club. They work inside the club. Sure once in the private room the girls will give you their Line numbers but if you only have one night that's useless to you. People think 20 k is crazy money. Depends what you are used to. It's circa 500-600 euros for an amazing night of entertainment with some great looking girls in luxury. If you were in Europe it would be value for money. But you are not. That's the problem. You just cannot ignore that for that sort of money you can stay in a quality hotel, hit Nana, Soi Cowboy or Thaniya and for that sort of money you could take half of the girls in one of the bars back with you! So despite the quality. And Pimp does feel high class, I am not sure the lack of atmosphere warrants spending that sort of cash.

I would either hit Nana, or I mentioned Thaniya / surrounding area. It gets few mentions on this forum but has become my preferred destination. Sure it's mainly Japanese guys territory but the girls don't care if you are not Japanese if you are generous. I find it, and the Silom area more laid back than Sukumvit / Nana. For a private room and KTV in Thaniya you'll pay 3500 - a long way short of Pimp prices. Hence it's easy to take 2 or 3 girls for a party if that takes your fancy. There are a few decent agogos close by. Have fun and report back.

Steve 9696
12-24-23, 02:04
Follow Steve 9696's advice. I have been to Pimp twice now. I only went the second time because I did not believe it could be as disappointing as the first. It was! Here are the pros and cons of Pimp. Pros. There is a very large line up of girls and the majority (but not all) of them are good quality with one or two stand outs. Probably fair to say the quality is better than any of the bars you will find in Nana. Billboard and Butterflies are decent with some good options but you will be looking at the girls dancing on stage in Pimp and thinking you made a good choice. Providing you have money to burn you could well find the place amazing. Another pro. The private rooms you take girls to are better than your hotel. Some have their own pool table and KTV (Karaoke facility). It is high standard. The rooms are superb and the shows on stay and music are far better than the loud din of Nana. Here are the cons. It's miles from anywhere! You'll be in a cab for 30 minutes if you are are only 14 minutes from Nana. No big deal if you leave early enough. Next con. It is soul-less. Ok you are going for girl company not the vibe, but because the pricing is off the scale you will find that (a) there are not a lot of guys there (b) when a crowd of (mainly Korean) guys do appear they keep themselves to themselves but the the girls know they are big spenders and you may find unless you pick quickly you suddenly get little attention from the best lookers. The prices of drinks and rooms are high. You will be expected to buy a bottle of something (not great if you expect to stay sober ish to perform). You mentioned spending 10 k or more. It's the latter and by some margin. Budget for 20-25 k. You won't be taking girls out of Pimp club. They work inside the club. Sure once in the private room the girls will give you their Line numbers but if you only have one night that's useless to you. People think 20 k is crazy money. Depends what you are used to. It's circa 500-600 euros for an amazing night of entertainment with some great looking girls in luxury. If you were in Europe it would be value for money. But you are not. That's the problem. You just cannot ignore that for that sort of money you can stay in a quality hotel, hit Nana, Soi Cowboy or Thaniya and for that sort of money you could take half of the girls in one of the bars back with you! So despite the quality. And Pimp does feel high class, I am not sure the lack of atmosphere warrants spending that sort of cash.

I would either hit Nana, or I mentioned Thaniya / surrounding area. It gets few mentions on this forum but has become my preferred destination. Sure it's mainly Japanese guys territory but the girls don't care if you are not Japanese if you are generous. I find it, and the Silom area more laid back than Sukumvit / Nana. For a private room and KTV in Thaniya you'll pay 3500 - a long way short of Pimp prices. Hence it's easy to take 2 or 3 girls for a party if that takes your fancy. There are a few decent agogos close by. Have fun and report back.Hey PFI long time. Your mailbox is full else I'the PM you. But please share for all here what you can and PM me any private details. Thanks.

Great words of wisdom in the forum as always. Hey I want to learn more about Thaniya and KTVs in particular. I will be back soon and rolling with my buddy. We love the KTV scene but never been in Thailand. Didn't quite know how to crack it.

Can you tell me more about Thaniya and some specific KTV joints and how to roll effectively?

Thanks P.S. What have you been up to of late? (By pm).

TravelBless
12-24-23, 02:05
Follow Steve 9696's advice. I have been to Pimp twice now. I only went the second time because I did not believe it could be as disappointing as the first. It was! Here are the pros and cons of Pimp. Pros. There is a very large line up of girls and the majority (but not all) of them are good quality with one or two stand outs. Probably fair to say the quality is better than any of the bars you will find in Nana. Billboard and Butterflies are decent with some good options but you will be looking at the girls dancing on stage in Pimp and thinking you made a good choice. Providing you have money to burn you could well find the place amazing. Another pro. The private rooms you take girls to are better than your hotel. Some have their own pool table and KTV (Karaoke facility). It is high standard. The rooms are superb and the shows on stay and music are far better than the loud din of Nana. Here are the cons. It's miles from anywhere! You'll be in a cab for 30 minutes if you are are only 14 minutes from Nana. No big deal if you leave early enough. Next con. It is soul-less. Ok you are going for girl company not the vibe, but because the pricing is off the scale you will find that (a) there are not a lot of guys there (b) when a crowd of (mainly Korean) guys do appear they keep themselves to themselves but the the girls know they are big spenders and you may find unless you pick quickly you suddenly get little attention from the best lookers. The prices of drinks and rooms are high. You will be expected to buy a bottle of something (not great if you expect to stay sober ish to perform). You mentioned spending 10 k or more. It's the latter and by some margin. Budget for 20-25 k. You won't be taking girls out of Pimp club. They work inside the club. Sure once in the private room the girls will give you their Line numbers but if you only have one night that's useless to you. People think 20 k is crazy money. Depends what you are used to. It's circa 500-600 euros for an amazing night of entertainment with some great looking girls in luxury. If you were in Europe it would be value for money. But you are not. That's the problem. You just cannot ignore that for that sort of money you can stay in a quality hotel, hit Nana, Soi Cowboy or Thaniya and for that sort of money you could take half of the girls in one of the bars back with you! So despite the quality. And Pimp does feel high class, I am not sure the lack of atmosphere warrants spending that sort of cash.

I would either hit Nana, or I mentioned Thaniya / surrounding area. It gets few mentions on this forum but has become my preferred destination. Sure it's mainly Japanese guys territory but the girls don't care if you are not Japanese if you are generous. I find it, and the Silom area more laid back than Sukumvit / Nana. For a private room and KTV in Thaniya you'll pay 3500 - a long way short of Pimp prices. Hence it's easy to take 2 or 3 girls for a party if that takes your fancy. There are a few decent agogos close by. Have fun and report back.Thanks for info. For that price what do the girls do in the private rooms. Is there sex on site?

Nyezhov
12-24-23, 05:36
Any recommendations for my wife and me as a couple in Bangkok?

Many nuru places and fiwfans ladies don't seem to be too much open for threesome action.

Any recommendations besides Nana? Could be expensive, we just would like to get fun.There are some girls that like carpet munching in Billboard.

Nyezhov
12-24-23, 05:39
I want to plan a solo trip to Bangkok during last week of December. Can any seniors please suggest if this is a good time for mongering in Bangkok? In terms of availability of girls during this time.Tonight at 11:30 pm all the women in Bangkok go "poof" and disappear. They don't come back till January 13th. Any women you see between tonight and then in Bangkok are ladyboys. This does not apply to the burka babes.

Danubius
12-24-23, 12:33
If anyone has reliable contacts to agents handling high class girls, models, actresses, influencers etc. In Bangkok (or Pattaya), please pm me! Thank you!

Martin39
12-24-23, 13:22
Thanks for all feedback especially to Steve and PFI. Looks like Pimp is not worth it if you can't take out the same evening. Also for a private room it sounds like more fun if you go with a group. Nana Plaza it will be and I will report back afterwards. Any more recommendations for the afternoon?

I understand the feedback that 1 day is too short but this is all I got on this trip so trying to get the best out of it. I appreciate all the great information and posts here.

PayForIt
12-24-23, 16:30
Thanks for info. For that price what do the girls do in the private rooms. Is there sex on site?No problem. The girls pretty much do as you want. But of course the golden rule is always to do the "interview" before selection. I know some guys don't like this. Believing it to be a bit mechanical. Here's my rule of thumb. If you want to bust a nut on an optifuk and don't care what services she provides because you think "wow I have just got to have this girl" then skip the interview / questions and get on with it! But if you want any specific services, ranging from knowing its BBBJ (nearly always), to CIM / COF / COB / Anal / BDSM, it is always, and I repeat, always, better to ask the girl before you take her to the room. There are lots of places to sit at Pimp even if you don't want to watch the main stage, where you can sit with a girl, or two or three (and get the ground rules sorted out so that you know that you are going to get what you want in the room. Yes. The sex is on site in the rooms.

I should correct one thing I said to Martin39 - about taking the girls out. I would be very surprised if that is permitted, but the truth is I just don't know as I have never asked. I would dread to think what the bar fine might be! My attitude has always been that if you are spending this sort of high-end cash to be in a luxury venue, with a lot of very attractive girls, you are not going to spend a fortune only then to take the girl back to your hotel. But it maybe possible. I just don't know. I can only assume the compensation to the club would be very significant given how much that girl might make them if she remains there.

Also. If you look online at videos of Pimp it gives the impression that the club is wall to wall with stunning young, spinner bodied optifuks. I will confess this excellent PR was what first drove me there! But the truth is something else. Yep. On the two occasions I have been (and it is only that so there maybe regulars on here who are far more experienced at Pimp or similar high end clubs), there have been girls in the line up (which is a lot of girls) who are solid 9's IMHO. But there are also 5's and 6's and you wonder how they are making cash there. But they must be. All goes to show the old "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" adage is correct. I went thinking it was going to be money well spent for guaranteed top draw quality. Well, there is some of it, enough that I returned once, but not enough in my view and I went to Pimp before I had discovered the KTVs in Thaniya. Which, for me, are not far short but for a lot less money.

PayForIt
12-24-23, 16:37
Hey PFI long time. Your mailbox is full else I'the PM you. But please share for all here what you can and PM me any private details. Thanks.

Great words of wisdom in the forum as always. Hey I want to learn more about Thaniya and KTVs in particular. I will be back soon and rolling with my buddy. We love the KTV scene but never been in Thailand. Didn't quite know how to crack it.

Can you tell me more about Thaniya and some specific KTV joints and how to roll effectively?

Thanks P.S. What have you been up to of late? (By pm).Thanks re the mailbox which I have just cleared out. I've PMd you more info on Thaniya. I haven't a clue on specific bars other than Club Sena - (the girls all wear red outside you can see a good guide to it on you tube). But others are very good, Victoria etc but I haven't really concentrated much on names. Rather the line ups on chairs / stools outside. One of them has all of the ladies in lovely Thai dresses. Very elegant.

As for my escapades. Other than the recent week in FKK land (posted in Sharks / Oase / Palace forums) have spent most of the year between Spain and Dubai. Have posted a few times in the Dubai forums. Was in Thailand in September and October and return for March and April 2024. I am in Spain for the festive period. PM me if you want details of the up to date position in Madrid / Malaga / E92.

When you head back to BKK I would definitely try out Thaniya and surrounding as an alternative to Sukhumvit / Nana / Cowboy / Soi 11. Not as busy but a nice feel to it. Hope the info in PM is helpful.

MrMr123
12-24-23, 23:25
I am going back to bkk afer more than a decade and I understand tat things have changeda lot and places like Annie or Mago are not longer around. Trying to look at existing reports to find what is recommended but did not really find anything.

I read some thing about black caviar but it looks more like the expensive janapse hostes bar.

Can some one provide a list of good message places and if possible some good escort agencies please?

Belvaros
12-25-23, 04:28
Hey PFI long time. Your mailbox is full else I'the PM you. But please share for all here what you can and PM me any private details. Thanks.

Great words of wisdom in the forum as always. Hey I want to learn more about Thaniya and KTVs in particular. I will be back soon and rolling with my buddy. We love the KTV scene but never been in Thailand. Didn't quite know how to crack it.

Can you tell me more about Thaniya and some specific KTV joints and how to roll effectively?

Thanks P.S. What have you been up to of late? (By pm).I am going to Thaniya tonight to celebrate Christmas. Been a few times and love the vibe as I used to live in Tokyo back in the day when I was a BSD trader and used to frequent all the ladies bars with our Japanese mates, a pro Yomuiri Giant (Yank mlb player) and well known Gaijin boss (ex NFL footy star, all of 6' 10" Lotsa fun.

I am partial to some KTVs. In Thaniya but SELECTION is key.

In Japan Street, I have been treated everywhere from an A++ star, hence spectacularly (I flashed the cash), to more like a leper from the lower colonies depending on the bars / clubs / KTVs etc. I always tell Mamasan or bossman, in my shitty Nihongo, that I am there to rain down that cash and spend on only the most special ladies. THIS never fails but bring wads of loot if you want special pussy.

I will report back on a specific joint I'm partying at tonight. Intent is to take 2 ladies and go wild and blow a grand.

YMMV.

Nyezhov
12-25-23, 09:20
I am going back to bkk afer more than a decade and I understand tat things have changeda lot and places like Annie or Mago are not longer around. Trying to look at existing reports to find what is recommended but did not really find anything.

I read some thing about black caviar but it looks more like the expensive janapse hostes bar.

Can some one provide a list of good message places and if possible some good escort agencies please?Things have totally changed in the past 10 years, my suggestion is go about 50 pages back and start reading on these reports and on the massage parlor areas. That should answer all your questions Good luck.

Viker14
12-25-23, 11:00
Tonight at 11:30 pm all the women in Bangkok go "poof" and disappear. They don't come back till January 13th. Any women you see between tonight and then in Bangkok are ladyboys. This does not apply to the burka babes.This literally saved me from a bad trip. Thank you for this valuable information.

Philip Marlow
12-25-23, 16:11
Any recommendations for nice threesome action with my wife in Bangkok? Most girls on Fiw seem not interested in threesome. And Parlours often answer on lime that not possible.Check Honey Bee Massage's site. Below each lady's picture is indicated if they speak English, and if they service men, women and / or couples.

The site includes ladies from Kiss Bangkok and Bangkok Passion.

11Bravo
12-25-23, 16:59
I am going back to bkk afer more than a decade and I understand tat things have changeda lot and places like Annie or Mago are not longer around. Trying to look at existing reports to find what is recommended but did not really find anything.

I read some thing about black caviar but it looks more like the expensive janapse hostes bar.

Can some one provide a list of good message places and if possible some good escort agencies please?Interesting question, "Can someone... ", but that's not really THE question, is it? THE question would be: "Will someone..."

Now, if only there were places, threads, in the Thailand section that discussed massage parlors, escort agencies... Wouldn't that be a wonderful world? The sun would be shining, skies of blue, a soft cooling breeze blowing, birds chirping, angels singing. Maybe someday, with unpaid members willing to regurgitate the info members have written into the latest version of ISG BKK Cliff notes.

Over the years of MY experience, I've picked up some translations:
HER: Where you come from? = how fat is your wallet?
HER: How long you stay BKK? = can I quote the tourist price or the resident price?
HER: Where you stay? = What's the travel time and method going to be for my return?
HIM: I read the forum but couldn't find anything. Would someone tell me about xyz? = MY time is valuable, yours isn't, so get cracking there boy, hut, hut.

Now, from my understanding, the latest paid version of ChatGPT, 4. 0, could give you a couple of PAGES of where to go, why, what to do, who to see, etc. , etc. all categorized by oily, soapy, nuru, PSE, ... Truly a wonder to behold. Unfortunately, as other members have pointed out, I'm a Cheap Charlie, so all I have is the free version of ChatGPT, ver. 0.1. So: RTFF.

But who knows? Maybe Basketball will throw a 3 pointer at the buzzer and win the game, answering your question, but history says, "air ball".

And yes, in the time it took to write this, I could have provided some specific info, but what fun is that (for me)? I get my info the old fashioned way: I work for it. If you have the time to punt, you have the time to read.

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For the benefit of the Administrator, to avoid a red card (I like my handle, don't want to lose it): here IS some advice: Load the LINE app on your mobile before arriving. Everyone uses it here (OK, a few also use WeChat, but the Thai default is LINE). It gives you a direct LINE (pun intended) to her, outside of an agency, dating app, bar, MP, etc. Most likely won't beat a bar fine, but certainly makes it easy to contact her again, whether it's a couple of days or a year (even 3 if the next Covid variant shuts things down again - personal experience on the last one). Find out where she's working, if she's working, on restricted duty for the monthlies, etc. Allows conversations outside of any organizational restrictions...

OK Admin, so maybe only a yellow?

BeachDrone
12-25-23, 18:36
Interesting question, "Can someone... ", but that's not really THE question, is it? THE question would be: "Will someone..."

Now, if only there were places, threads, in the Thailand section that discussed massage parlors, escort agencies... Wouldn't that be a wonderful world? The sun would be shining, skies of blue, a soft cooling breeze blowing, birds chirping, angels singing. Maybe someday, with unpaid members willing to regurgitate the info members have written into the latest version of ISG BKK Cliff notes.

Over the years of MY experience, I've picked up some translations:
HER: Where you come from? = how fat is your wallet?
HER: How long you stay BKK? = can I quote the tourist price or the resident price?
HER: Where you stay? = What's the travel time and method going to be for my return?
HIM: I read the forum but couldn't find anything. Would someone tell me about xyz? = MY time is valuable, yours isn't, so get cracking there boy, hut, hut.

Now, from my understanding, the latest paid version of ChatGPT, 4. 0, could give you a couple of PAGES of where to go, why, what to do, who to see, etc. , etc. all categorized by oily, soapy, nuru, PSE, ... Truly a wonder to behold. Unfortunately, as other members have pointed out, I'm a Cheap Charlie, so all I have is the free version of ChatGPT, ver. 0.1. So: RTFF.

But who knows? Maybe Basketball will throw a 3 pointer at the buzzer and win the game, answering your question, but history says, "air ball".

And yes, in the time it took to write this, I could have provided some specific info, but what fun is that (for me)? I get my info the old fashioned way: I work for it. If you have the time to punt, you have the time to read.

===========================
For the benefit of the Administrator, to avoid a red card (I like my handle, don't want to lose it): here IS some advice: Load the LINE app on your mobile before arriving. Everyone uses it here (OK, a few also use WeChat, but the Thai default is LINE). It gives you a direct LINE (pun intended) to her, outside of an agency, dating app, bar, MP, etc. Most likely won't beat a bar fine, but certainly makes it easy to contact her again, whether it's a couple of days or a year (even 3 if the next Covid variant shuts things down again - personal experience on the last one). Find out where she's working, if she's working, on restricted duty for the monthlies, etc. Allows conversations outside of any organizational restrictions...

OK Admin, so maybe only a yellow?At 11 Bravo. This is the best thing I have read here to date. I agree wholeheartedly. Read the forum. Get out there, walk down the sois where the massage parlors are, talk to the ladies, try out a few, or if you like bars (I do not), go to a bar, buy a lady a drink or two and talk to her, maybe barfine her if you like her. Get LINE and use it. I'm in Chiang Mai and am getting laid almost every night, mostly at massage shops, and mostly arranged via LINE. Also, when you walk down the sois and the ladies call out, "handsome man, do you want massage?" remember, it is only your wallet that is "handsome. " But if you talk to them, laugh with them, have a session with them, and have fun with them, maybe you will seem handsome, too. Bottom line is that you'll learn and probably have a good time.

FilthyBeaver
12-26-23, 00:15
This place caters to wealthy thais. I've been with Dr's, business men ard generally locals of considerable means that have subscriptions. The subscriptions do include access to girls during club hours to take wherever you want. I believe they tolerate faragns but it's far from a sure thing and more of a money grab / blue ball experience until you crack the nut which will most definitely take more that a night of indiscriminate spending. Not mu kind of place as the kissing is deafening and it's wall to wall people but I was hosted by said wealthy person and I literally had access to anything I wanted. Unfortunately I didn't want anything but to leave.


Follow Steve 9696's advice. I have been to Pimp twice now. I only went the second time because I did not believe it could be as disappointing as the first. It was! Here are the pros and cons of Pimp. Pros. There is a very large line up of girls and the majority (but not all) of them are good quality with one or two stand outs. Probably fair to say the quality is better than any of the bars you will find in Nana. Billboard and Butterflies are decent with some good options but you will be looking at the girls dancing on stage in Pimp and thinking you made a good choice. Providing you have money to burn you could well find the place amazing. Another pro. The private rooms you take girls to are better than your hotel. Some have their own pool table and KTV (Karaoke facility). It is high standard. The rooms are superb and the shows on stay and music are far better than the loud din of Nana. Here are the cons. It's miles from anywhere! You'll be in a cab for 30 minutes if you are are only 14 minutes from Nana. No big deal if you leave early enough. Next con. It is soul-less. Ok you are going for girl company not the vibe, but because the pricing is off the scale you will find that (a) there are not a lot of guys there (b) when a crowd of (mainly Korean) guys do appear they keep themselves to themselves but the the girls know they are big spenders and you may find unless you pick quickly you suddenly get little attention from the best lookers. The prices of drinks and rooms are high. You will be expected to buy a bottle of something (not great if you expect to stay sober ish to perform). You mentioned spending 10 k or more. It's the latter and by some margin. Budget for 20-25 k. You won't be taking girls out of Pimp club. They work inside the club. Sure once in the private room the girls will give you their Line numbers but if you only have one night that's useless to you. People think 20 k is crazy money. Depends what you are used to. It's circa 500-600 euros for an amazing night of entertainment with some great looking girls in luxury. If you were in Europe it would be value for money. But you are not. That's the problem. You just cannot ignore that for that sort of money you can stay in a quality hotel, hit Nana, Soi Cowboy or Thaniya and for that sort of money you could take half of the girls in one of the bars back with you! So despite the quality. And Pimp does feel high class, I am not sure the lack of atmosphere warrants spending that sort of cash.

I would either hit Nana, or I mentioned Thaniya / surrounding area. It gets few mentions on this forum but has become my preferred destination. Sure it's mainly Japanese guys territory but the girls don't care if you are not Japanese if you are generous. I find it, and the Silom area more laid back than Sukumvit / Nana. For a private room and KTV in Thaniya you'll pay 3500 - a long way short of Pimp prices. Hence it's easy to take 2 or 3 girls for a party if that takes your fancy. There are a few decent agogos close by. Have fun and report back.

MrMr123
12-26-23, 01:01
At 11 Bravo. This is the best thing I have read here to date. I agree wholeheartedly. Read the forum. Get out there, walk down the sois where the massage parlors are, talk to the ladies, try out a few, or if you like bars (I do not), go to a bar, buy a lady a drink or two and talk to her, maybe barfine her if you like her. Get LINE and use it. I'm in Chiang Mai and am getting laid almost every night, mostly at massage shops, and mostly arranged via LINE. Also, when you walk down the sois and the ladies call out, "handsome man, do you want massage?" remember, it is only your wallet that is "handsome. " But if you talk to them, laugh with them, have a session with them, and have fun with them, maybe you will seem handsome, too. Bottom line is that you'll learn and probably have a good time.Wow Things has changed. Forums used to be placed to exchanged info but now it seems it just place for sad people going on rants.

Well If this rant has made you feel less depresed then good.

Have a nice whatever.

PayForIt
12-26-23, 01:52
I will report back on a specific joint I'm partying at tonight. Intent is to take 2 ladies and go wild and blow a grand.

YMMV.Looking forward to your report. Hope the grand was $1000 not THB! You won't blow much for the latter! Merry Christmas!

Llantarnam
12-26-23, 05:46
Wow Things has changed. Forums used to be placed to exchanged info but now it seems it just place for sad people going on rants.

Well If this rant has made you feel less depresed then good.

Have a nice whatever.The forum is a place to exchange info, but that doesn't appear to be your intention. You just want others to save you the time of looking back through previous posts (it's all there) and do the donkey work for you.

Once you have tried a few places maybe you will report back on your experiences.

Llantarnam
12-26-23, 06:18
Have been using TF for a couple of weeks, so thought I would give some of my observations:

1) you can set the criteria for who you want to meet (for example ladies in Bangkok under the age of 30) but you cannot force people to respect them. As a result I have had a about 400 responses to my profile, including half the grannies in Thailand who want to be my friend.

2) prices quoted range from 2 k to 20 k (normal price being 2. 5 k - 3. 5 k).

3) Contacts include 2 ladyboys who wanted to show me a good time.

4) one very attractive African girl cancelled at the last minute when she realised that when I said I wanted to stick in her bum hole that actually meant her a*.

5) lots of single mothers.

6) lots of younger girls have braces on their teeth (particularly those that don't smile in their photographs). Do you realy want a blowjob from somebody who has a mouth full of metal.

Overall I like TF, but it can be a bit of a uphill task getting girls to talk to you (even after they have said they are freelancers).

11Bravo
12-26-23, 12:44
At 11 Bravo. This is the best thing I have read here to date. I agree wholeheartedly. Read the forum. Get out there, walk down the sois where the massage parlors are, talk to the ladies, try out a few, or if you like bars (I do not), go to a bar, buy a lady a drink or two and talk to her, maybe barfine her if you like her. Get LINE and use it. I'm in Chiang Mai and am getting laid almost every night, mostly at massage shops, and mostly arranged via LINE. Also, when you walk down the sois and the ladies call out, "handsome man, do you want massage?" remember, it is only your wallet that is "handsome. " But if you talk to them, laugh with them, have a session with them, and have fun with them, maybe you will seem handsome, too. Bottom line is that you'll learn and probably have a good time.Excellent advice, though it is just common sense. Yes, it's business, but just like when you were working, there were some customers you enjoyed being with, and others you couldn't wait to get out of there, minimal work done. NNNN baht will get you laid. Someone with a friendly attitude, good heart, fun, you'll most likely have an enjoyable time. Someone with a superior attitude, entitled by his race or passport, yes, will get laid, but might not be the fun one was expecting. Personal experience: my 2 fav's, one found by reading the forum, the other by walking down a soi. And LINE keeps me in contact with both. And whether they meet others' definition of hotness, I don't care. They meet MINE and that's the only criteria that counts. Only YOU can make the go / no go decision.


Wow Things has changed. Forums used to be placed to exchanged info but now it seems it just place for sad people going on rants.

Well If this rant has made you feel less depresed then good.

Have a nice whatever. Guess he's going to take his ball and go home.

Nothing has changed, it is a place for exchanging info. The info is there. Like a library, the books are there, it's just that YOU have to go back in the stacks to look, the librarian won't.


The forum is a place to exchange info, but that doesn't appear to be your intention. You just want others to save you the time of looking back through previous posts (it's all there) and do the donkey work for you.

Once you have tried a few places maybe you will report back on your experiences. Look on the bright side, at least there wasn't a promise to write an FR on receiving the info (ISG's version of "the check's in the mail").


Ill save the fella from reading 50 pages of Gibberish. There is NO at present a Massage Parlour of Noteworthiness.

There was one pre covid with Hot girls who actyually did massage, Sex was optional but they appreciated you partaking. AIR BALL.. AIR BALL... .AIR BALL...

Now of course, Basketball is correct IF you accept HIS rules of hotness. Myself, I'll pick a cute girl with a great attitude over an all star starfish. Sure, you can score baskets with both, but the former is so much more fun playing with than the latter. As I've often said, I'm not a form over function type of guy. And if you follow BeachDrone's advice, sometimes you can land that all star with a great attitude, personal experience anyway.

NovaThings
12-26-23, 20:36
Hi all. Trying to find basics to navigate a 4-6 day stay. Thinking of staying exclusively near khlong toei but at an air bnb. Do you recommend or just go with a traditional hotel? Plan to do the common areas but willing to branch out to Thaniya? And close areas. I'll go to Pimp? And report back what I find. I am into greek and multiples. Prefer young but service wins with manageable looks. Want to maximize my time there so not as cost sensitive. Also, cash is king still. I tried researching before posting so I know how the first post should be more giving then asking. Thanks all. Anyone who messages me directly I can give you the details in Southern MD, Northern Va (avoid right now) and Southern California.

Belvaros
12-27-23, 02:40
Looking forward to your report. Hope the grand was $1000 not THB! You won't blow much for the latter! Merry Christmas!Hey, I got the Gaijin / Farang treatment at the doors to 2 JTV / KTV I wanted to party at. Some pretty ladies all around but no better than going to the bars in Nana Plaza. So I went to a Japanese bar and talked to Mamasan, bought her some drinks (she is 35-40 range but PRETTY). Had a feel, dropped 2 k Baht (less than the 33 k Baht possibility), got a cab to Cowboy and spent a wad on some pretty ladies in bars and took one home for ST (expenisve at 3 k) but she was a delight. Full Service like a nice little PSE. I will repeat with her. Did not so BBFS just BBBJ, DATY, shower COB, CIM.

Overall for the night I got my balls drained, had a feel up of 5-6 nice ladies at Nana places and got boom booms, all for under 10 k.

Dcrist0527
12-27-23, 03:10
Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination. I have covered South America and Mexico fairly well. So my struggle is deciding between Bangkok and Colombia or Brazil. Of course so much is subjective, but I have a few objective questions.

I enjoy massages, particularly body to body. I also enjoy the bar scene. I like to have a drink or two and get to know a girl before discussing term $. With that in mind, I definitely see me prioritizing the soapies and the gogos. (I'm still researching gogos and have alot to learn) Generally speaking, I seek value and don't seek out the leaat epensive option. But I do stick to a budget. Am I in the right neighborhood to budget somewhere around 16,000 baht (daily) for a quality 90-minute b2 be with at least a BBBJ AND a few drinks and maybe a couple hours with a barfined girl? (Obviously I'm not including food, airfare, hotel, etc. In that total).

I've read alot about the declining quality in looks at the soapies. Personally, I'm picky. Way too picky for a guy with my looks. LOL I am not a trophy hunter. I don't need a 10 to be happy. But I do like a pretty face. I know in Colombia, for example, I can't walk down the street without mentally salivating. Is the massage scene so bad that I'll have to visit multuple spots to find a 7?

Lastly, what is the recommended minimum stay? Or perhaps more to the point, how long does it take you to feel normal after those flights. The flights I'm looking at are 25-31 hours. I'm not staying in Thailand for a month. Say what you want, but this is not a location that I find terribly interesting to me in a tourist sense. In fact, I'm not sure I'd stay 2 weeks. Is it just crazy to make that trip for a week and a half, for example?

Thanks in advance.

Steve 9696
12-27-23, 03:30
Hi all. Trying to find basics to navigate a 4-6 day stay. Thinking of staying exclusively near khlong toei but at an air bnb. Do you recommend or just go with a traditional hotel? Plan to do the common areas but willing to branch out to Thaniya? And close areas. I'll go to Pimp? And report back what I find. I am into greek and multiples. Prefer young but service wins with manageable looks. Want to maximize my time there so not as cost sensitive. Also, cash is king still. I tried researching before posting so I know how the first post should be more giving then asking. Thanks all. Anyone who messages me directly I can give you the details in Southern MD, Northern Va (avoid right now) and Southern California.Hey Nova. Experienced forum contributor check my posts. Interested in any So Cal scene. I travel to La a couple times a year. Done Seeking. Flew a girl from London I know. But would love to learn the local scene. Seems some KTV and Kgirls but tough nut to crack without references. Any and all intell welcome. Meant this as PM but been drinking. Hahaha. Anyhow Pm me!

Forty Drinks
12-27-23, 03:53
Hey, I got the Gaijin / Farang treatment at the doors to 2 JTV / KTV I wanted to party at. Some pretty ladies all around but no better than going to the bars in Nana Plaza. So I went to a Japanese bar and talked to Mamasan, bought her some drinks (she is 35-40 range but PRETTY). Had a feel, dropped 2 k Baht (less than the 33 k Baht possibility), got a cab to Cowboy and spent a wad on some pretty ladies in bars and took one home for ST (expenisve at 3 k) but she was a delight. Full Service like a nice little PSE. I will repeat with her. Did not so BBFS just BBBJ, DATY, shower COB, CIM.

Overall for the night I got my balls drained, had a feel up of 5-6 nice ladies at Nana places and got boom booms, all for under 10 k.Teachable Lesson.

3,000 short time is not EXPENSIVE. It's the baseline rate to the girl.

Precious School person had intense negotiations with 2 Hombres last night. Look like kinda Scruffy if you asked me.

Not sure a better quality girl would take them on.

Sorry but I had a 🧠 Freeze. I should have gone across the street and watched till conclusion. Don't know if she took them on.

Nyezhov
12-27-23, 05:15
Hi all. Trying to find basics to navigate a 4-6 day stay. Thinking of staying exclusively near khlong toei but at an air bnb. Do you recommend or just go with a traditional hotel? Plan to do the common areas but willing to branch out to Thaniya? And close areas. I'll go to Pimp? And report back what I find. I am into greek and multiples. Prefer young but service wins with manageable looks. Want to maximize my time there so not as cost sensitive. Also, cash is king still. I tried researching before posting so I know how the first post should be more giving then asking. Thanks all. Anyone who messages me directly I can give you the details in Southern MD, Northern Va (avoid right now) and Southern California.Dude go to the hotel section of the forum and see where people are staying. I would stay around the Sukhumvit area. I could recommend you a dozen hotels, go to Agoda and find in your price range. If you can afford pimp, you could afford a super nice hotel. Avoid Thaniya it's a waste of your time. So is Patpong.

Captain Solo
12-27-23, 07:32
I have been in Bangkok, Pattaya and various places in Thailand about 10 times, also many places in Asia. I am familiar with So Cal, Tijuana, Mexico.

Had some very sweet sessions with FIWFANS girls. I want to explore areas besides nana and Patpong.

Any bro in town that week want to link up to have some fun, PM me.


Hi all. Trying to find basics to navigate a 4-6 day stay. Thinking of staying exclusively near khlong toei but at an air bnb. Do you recommend or just go with a traditional hotel? Plan to do the common areas but willing to branch out to Thaniya? And close areas. I'll go to Pimp? And report back what I find. I am into greek and multiples. Prefer young but service wins with manageable looks. Want to maximize my time there so not as cost sensitive. Also, cash is king still. I tried researching before posting so I know how the first post should be more giving then asking. Thanks all. Anyone who messages me directly I can give you the details in Southern MD, Northern Va (avoid right now) and Southern California.

EverythingThai
12-27-23, 09:43
Hi all. Trying to find basics to navigate a 4-6 day stay. Thinking of staying exclusively near khlong toei but at an air bnb. Do you recommend or just go with a traditional hotel? Plan to do the common areas but willing to branch out to Thaniya? And close areas. I'll go to Pimp? And report back what I find. I am into greek and multiples. Prefer young but service wins with manageable looks. Want to maximize my time there so not as cost sensitive. Also, cash is king still. I tried researching before posting so I know how the first post should be more giving then asking. Thanks all. Anyone who messages me directly I can give you the details in Southern MD, Northern Va (avoid right now) and Southern California.About the pimp. It's nothing like the scene in nana plaza, soi cowboy or patpong. And far from the Pattaya scene. If you can convince a girl to go with you, it will be ST and the prices start at 6000 Baht ST. Then they will only consider it if you are a decent spender. That means paying for their time. How it works is you buy a bottle service package. Then you choose 1 girl for each guy. So, if you are alone, the bill will be higher of course. Then you pay about 1500-2500 Baht for the first hour with each girl and 500-800 Baht for each additional hour. They will drink from your bottle. There is no bar fine. You will need to make a side deal with the girl and they can't leave until at least 2 am. Most girls there won't do BBFS and LT. It will be one shot with a condom. But dam, they are smokin hottttt. The experience will be more of a GFE than a PSE.

For example, my last visit there cost me 25,000 Baht for my bar tab, 10,000 Baht for the lady. Have fun mate.

Forty Drinks
12-27-23, 11:11
Anal and correspondening cost.

No Worries.

The ones that do Anal don't cost that much to begin with.

Generally they are old and have lost their Looks. They will do anything for not that much extra.

Trust me. Hahaha.

NovaThings
12-27-23, 18:46
About the pimp. It's nothing like the scene in nana plaza, soi cowboy or patpong. And far from the Pattaya scene. If you can convince a girl to go with you, it will be ST and the prices start at 6000 Baht ST. Then they will only consider it if you are a decent spender. That means paying for their time. How it works is you buy a bottle service package. Then you choose 1 girl for each guy. So, if you are alone, the bill will be higher of course. Then you pay about 1500-2500 Baht for the first hour with each girl and 500-800 Baht for each additional hour. They will drink from your bottle. There is no bar fine. You will need to make a side deal with the girl and they can't leave until at least 2 am. Most girls there won't do BBFS and LT. It will be one shot with a condom. But dam, they are smokin hottttt. The experience will be more of a GFE than a PSE.

For example, my last visit there cost me 25,000 Baht for my bar tab, 10,000 Baht for the lady. Have fun mate.Appreciate the feedback, I plan to test pimp or nana the first day and snag some lines to walk around the rest of my time. If you feel that plan fits better with any of the level girls but at a different place just lmk. I'll send any line info I can collect (if I can) as a thank you.

My current plan is go go bar, day walker, soapy massage and cycle repeat until my body gives out. Lmk if you have any favorites. I prefer service over looks but will try pimp once. Thanks.

NovaThings
12-27-23, 18:47
Dude go to the hotel section of the forum and see where people are staying. I would stay around the Sukhumvit area. I could recommend you a dozen hotels, go to Agoda and find in your price range. If you can afford pimp, you could afford a super nice hotel. Avoid Thaniya it's a waste of your time. So is Patpong.Got it and thank you.

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Forty Drinks
12-28-23, 01:14
Dude go to the hotel section of the forum and see where people are staying. I would stay around the Sukhumvit area. I could recommend you a dozen hotels, go to Agoda and find in your price range. If you can afford pimp, you could afford a super nice hotel. Avoid Thaniya it's a waste of your time. So is Patpong.I've only walked Thaniya so that's that.

It must Suck though. A guy recently was all excited an telling us how he was going to spend $1,000 and Party like it was 1999.

He ended up at Soi cowboy with a $100 girl.

I can only surmise pretty girls like sitting outside in the Humid weather for beauty reasons. I don't even see many Japanese partaking in the ktvs there.

Goatscrot
12-28-23, 02:14
Teachable Lesson.

3,000 short time is not EXPENSIVE. It's the baseline rate to the girl.

Precious School person had intense negotiations with 2 Hombres last night. Look like kinda Scruffy if you asked me.

Not sure a better quality girl would take them on.

Sorry but I had a 🧠 Freeze. I should have gone across the street and watched till conclusion. Don't know if she took them on.Yes it is expensive when compared with oilies and fiwfans. Add in BF, drinks, and ST hotel if you are a local, and it's very expensive. Well over 5 k. It's why the vast majority of local punters don't frequent gogos these days. They are really aimed at the two week millionaire tourists. The oilies with better looking glass are are less than 3 k for 90 min 2 shots. Soi 24/1 has some lookers now. Honestly, do your homework on fiwfans, but for many this is too much effort, and you'll have better than Nana quality gals 1500 for an hour one shot and if you want to pay 3 k you'll have an autoshow pretty quality gal. In addition you can have your session any time from late morning on, some as early as 10am
and you don't have wait for the bars to open and don't have to listen to the usually terrible music played there. In addition, the majority are not trying to rush you. I'll never forget one Christmas Eve about 10 years ago we were sitting at a small bar that was upstairs on the second floor of Nana right outside the short time hotel. For an hour we used are watches to time every dude going in and out of the hotel. The average time each dude was in there was about 25 minutes. So when you figure for two showers undressing and dressing, how much time is spent doing the actual act? Well, very little. And I would assume the same is true with most STs today. So dudes are unleashing about 175 USD when looking at total costs for about 10 minutes of play. So again, yes it's expensive in comparison.

Nyezhov
12-28-23, 02:18
Yes it is expensive when compared with oilies and fiwfans. Add in BF, drinks, and ST hotel if you are a local, and it's very expensive. Well over 5 k. It's why the vast majority of local punters don't frequent gogos these days. They are really aimed at the two week millionaire tourists. The oilies with better looking glass are are less than 3 k for 90 min 2 shots. Soi 24/1 has some lookers now. Honestly, do your homework on fiwfans and you'll have better than Nana quality gals 1500 for an hour one shot and if you want to pay 3 k you'll have an autoshow pretty quality gal. And the majority are not trying to rush you. I'll never forget one Christmas Eve about 10 years ago we were sitting at a small bar that was upstairs on the second floor of Nana right outside the short time hotel. For an hour we used are watches to time every dude going in and out of the hotel. The average time each dude was in there was about 25 minutes. So when you figure for two showers undressing and dressing, how much time is spent doing the actual act? Well, very little. And I would assume the same is true with most STs today. So dudes are unleashing about 175 USD when looking at total costs for about 10 minutes of play. So again, yes it's expensive in comparison.25 minutes? Clearly you weren't timing a man like me otherwise it would have been 15.

TConor
12-28-23, 02:51
Yes it is expensive when compared with oilies and fiwfans. Add in BF, drinks, and ST hotel if you are a local, and it's very expensive. Well over 5 k. It's why the vast majority of local punters don't frequent gogos these days. They are really aimed at the two week millionaire tourists. The oilies with better looking glass are are less than 3 k for 90 min 2 shots. Soi 24/1 has some lookers now. Honestly, do your homework on fiwfans, but for many this is too much effort, and you'll have better than Nana quality gals 1500 for an hour one shot and if you want to pay 3 k you'll have an autoshow pretty quality gal. In addition you can have your session any time from late morning on, some as early as 10am
and you don't have wait for the bars to open and don't have to listen to the usually terrible music played there. In addition, the majority are not trying to rush you. I'll never forget one Christmas Eve about 10 years ago we were sitting at a small bar that was upstairs on the second floor of Nana right outside the short time hotel. For an hour we used are watches to time every dude going in and out of the hotel. The average time each dude was in there was about 25 minutes. So when you figure for two showers undressing and dressing, how much time is spent doing the actual act? Well, very little. And I would assume the same is true with most STs today. So dudes are unleashing about 175 USD when looking at total costs for about 10 minutes of play. So again, yes it's expensive in comparison.All tourists mess it up for us.

EverythingThai
12-28-23, 03:27
Appreciate the feedback, I plan to test pimp or nana the first day and snag some lines to walk around the rest of my time. If you feel that plan fits better with any of the level girls but at a different place just lmk. I'll send any line info I can collect (if I can) as a thank you.

My current plan is go go bar, day walker, soapy massage and cycle repeat until my body gives out. Lmk if you have any favorites. I prefer service over looks but will try pimp once. Thanks.Your plan is good for the Nana girls, but not in the Pimp. Like I said, the Pimp girls are not the normal type of working girls foreigners deal with in Nana, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong or Thai Friendly. My advice to you is this. On your first night, budget 30,000 Baht for the pimp. Go there and experience it one time for yourself. Don't be too serious with he girls and just go with the flow. Many of them don't even speak English. I myself can speak Thai. Then, your next night and for the rest of your trip, stick to Nana, Soi Cowboy, and some of the massage shops. Even go into Thermae. Then do a night or 2 in Pattaya. That should cover you mate.

PayForIt
12-28-23, 03:27
Dude go to the hotel section of the forum and see where people are staying. I would stay around the Sukhumvit area. I could recommend you a dozen hotels, go to Agoda and find in your price range. If you can afford pimp, you could afford a super nice hotel. Avoid Thaniya it's a waste of your time. So is Patpong.Totally disagree. I've been doing Suk for years. Thaniya is a better chilled experience for me. I agree that if the guy can afford Pimp (see recent post on it being 35 k for a night from Everything Thai (one of the most experienced members here) he can afford a really nice hotel. Lots to choose from in both Suk and Silom. But saying Thaniya is a waste of time is really subjective an in my (also subjective view) is just wrong. Some great options in Thaniya. And unlike Suk, Silom is not a dump / dirty /. Silom is relaxed, close enough to walk to the river and is chilled with great shopping by day. But if the guy wants soapies in the day. Suk 23/24 is far better than Silom.

Forty Drinks
12-28-23, 03:45
Totally disagree. I've been doing Suk for years. Thaniya is a better chilled experience for me. I agree that if the guy can afford Pimp (see recent post on it being 35 k for a night from Everything Thai (one of the most experienced members here) he can afford a really nice hotel. Lots to choose from in both Suk and Silom. But saying Thaniya is a waste of time is really subjective an in my (also subjective view) is just wrong. Some great options in Thaniya. And unlike Suk, Silom is not a dump / dirty /. Silom is relaxed, close enough to walk to the river and is chilled with great shopping by day. But if the guy wants soapies in the day. Suk 23/24 is far better than Silom.Experience guys don't spend $700 on girls in Thailand.

Come on its Thailand not Dubai.

Goatscrot
12-28-23, 05:17
All tourists mess it up for us.I remember one of my first trips to Cambodia back in 2000. I ran into a a guy I met in Bangkok in mid-99 that first day in Phnom Penh. He had been living there for a time. He put his arm around me and said, this is what we pay, don't pay more or it will mess it up for everyone. And he was right. But there is just no telling that to the "it's my money and I'll do what I want" group. The local Thai punters on FF certainly aren't tipping and paying more than the listed price for their sessions. Some of them might take the gal out for dinner and drinks, but they're certainly not poisoning the well. And of course overall they're much better at compartmentalizing then we westerners.

Nyezhov
12-28-23, 05:35
Totally disagree. I've been doing Suk for years. Thaniya is a better chilled experience for me. I agree that if the guy can afford Pimp (see recent post on it being 35 k for a night from Everything Thai (one of the most experienced members here) he can afford a really nice hotel. Lots to choose from in both Suk and Silom. But saying Thaniya is a waste of time is really subjective an in my (also subjective view) is just wrong. Some great options in Thaniya. And unlike Suk, Silom is not a dump / dirty /. Silom is relaxed, close enough to walk to the river and is chilled with great shopping by day. But if the guy wants soapies in the day. Suk 23/24 is far better than Silom.First timers or even second or third timers are wasting their time in Thaniya.

Expat American
12-28-23, 08:55
Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination. I have covered South America and Mexico fairly well. So my struggle is deciding between Bangkok and Colombia or Brazil. Of course so much is subjective, but I have a few objective questions.

I enjoy massages, particularly body to body. I also enjoy the bar scene. I like to have a drink or two and get to know a girl before discussing term $. With that in mind, I definitely see me prioritizing the soapies and the gogos. (I'm still researching gogos and have alot to learn) Generally speaking, I seek value and don't seek out the leaat epensive option. But I do stick to a budget. Am I in the right neighborhood to budget somewhere around 16,000 baht (daily) for a quality 90-minute b2 be with at least a BBBJ AND a few drinks and maybe a couple hours with a barfined girl? (Obviously I'm not including food, airfare, hotel, etc. In that total).

I've read alot about the declining quality in looks at the soapies. Personally, I'm picky. Way too picky for a guy with my looks. LOL I am not a trophy hunter. I don't need a 10 to be happy. But I do like a pretty face. I know in Colombia, for example, I can't walk down the street without mentally salivating. Is the massage scene so bad that I'll have to visit multuple spots to find a 7?

Lastly, what is the recommended minimum stay? Or perhaps more to the point, how long does it take you to feel normal after those flights. The flights I'm looking at are 25-31 hours. I'm not staying in Thailand for a month. Say what you want, but this is not a location that I find terribly interesting to me in a tourist sense. In fact, I'm not sure I'd stay 2 weeks. Is it just crazy to make that trip for a week and a half, for example?

Thanks in advance.It seems there are two types of guys. The ones who are used to Latina women in Colombia and Mexico are often disappointed with Asian women. Does Asian porn turn you on? Go look online at porn with Thai girls. If that's your thing, you will enjoy Thailand. But if you are super picky and want the latina booty and tits, Asia is maybe not for you. If you are not interested in the culture and coming purely for a fuckation then just go to Pattaya. Its more dense and has far more girls in a small area. And a week in Patts will probably be enough. A 16 K bhat budget for fucking is more than plenty. I usually spend less than 10 and get 2 to 3 decent fucks a day including some massage.

TooDirty
12-28-23, 10:09
Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination.If you do Thailand make sure to eat some Thai food. Thai food is 20% of the reason to go to Thailand. Even eating in the Thai mall food courts is better and cheaper than almost all of my choices at home. Food courts are rated pretty highly with most Thailand vloggers.

Rating girls in Thailand is a bit like comparing escorts to junkie street walkers in the USA. Where the normal woman scale in the USA goes from -3 to about 7, the Thai woman scale is more like 4 to 10 LOL.

Even cheap Thai hotel air conditioning with those mini-split units is some of the best air conditioning out there. Nothing like the anemic air conditioning in most cheap USA hotels, or completely absent air conditioning in Bogota. LOL.

Even a cheap 200 baht for an hour foot massage in Thailand is a worthwhile thing. Something worth getting everyday with your intended budget.

Thailand is kind of like being in a much hotter temperature wise version of Santa Fe, but mostly skinnier with better food & massage choices, and far less scary.

11Bravo
12-28-23, 13:39
All tourists mess it up for us.Every place I've been, every year, I hear this over and over again, for decades. Yes, visitors might spoil a few places, but Bangkok is a fairly big playground. The market is controlled by supply and demand. Tourist season, there might be fewer choices but tourist season isn't all year. If you're a visitor, yes, you want to make the most of your time, and if you've laid out the coin for the airfare, hotel, etc. , you don't want to curtail your enjoyment over some relatively small change. I don't blame them. If you're a resident, MY experience, you know alternative places to go and have the time to build contacts. If you just want a new girl every time, regulars don't work. I don't blame the providers when they take a windfall advantage, but repeat business counts a lot as it's literally money in the bank.

Bottom line: visitors have the cash, residents have the knowledge, and if you're smart, you can leverage said knowledge to your advantage.

Dcrist0527
12-28-23, 15:12
If you do Thailand make sure to eat some Thai food. Thai food is 20% of the reason to go to Thailand. Even eating in the Thai mall food courts is better and cheaper than almost all of my choices at home. Food courts are rated pretty highly with most Thailand vloggers.

Rating girls in Thailand is a bit like comparing escorts to junkie street walkers in the USA. Where the normal woman scale in the USA goes from -3 to about 7, the Thai woman scale is more like 4 to 10 LOL.

Even cheap Thai hotel air conditioning with those mini-split units is some of the best air conditioning out there. Nothing like the anemic air conditioning in most cheap USA hotels, or completely absent air conditioning in Bogota. LOL.

Even a cheap 200 baht for an hour foot massage in Thailand is a worthwhile thing. Something worth getting everyday with your intended budget.

Thailand is kind of like being in a much hotter temperature wise version of Santa Fe, but mostly skinnier with better food & massage choices, and far less scary.Thank you, and thanks to Expat as well. Good advice. Maybe I'm selling Thailand short. As for latinas vs Thai women, I'm atrracted to all types. I think, generally, Asian women and South American women can be opposite ends of the spectrum. But I love the whole spectrum. LOL. The only thing I don't like are the plastic asses that seem to be growing in popularity in Latin America.

Good points on food. To be totally honest, Asia is very foreign to me. Being from the east coast, all of my international travel is to the south. I've never paid much attention to Asia so for some reason, it feels overwhelming not knowing a single word of Thai, unfamiliar with cultures, norms, etc. But my research tells me that though the girls may have a preference for Asian men, I'll get by just fine.

I assume I'll be ok on finding girls hotter than I deserve. I say I'm picky but I'm not excessively picky on looks. My sweet spot is finding a 7 but more important that we vibe well. I'm a GFE guy, DFK and BBBJ are most important to me and that seems to be fairly standard. If I can get by on 16 K baht for two sessions including a good nuru, I might pull the trigger on BKK. The only final hesitations I have is 30 hour flight and that humidity. So your comments on AC is very much appreciated! LOL.

HorseTrader
12-28-23, 15:14
Every place I've been, every year, I hear this over and over again, for decades. Yes, visitors might spoil a few places, but Bangkok is a fairly big playground. The market is controlled by supply and demand. Tourist season, there might be fewer choices but tourist season isn't all year. If you're a visitor, yes, you want to make the most of your time, and if you've laid out the coin for the airfare, hotel, etc. , you don't want to curtail your enjoyment over some relatively small change. I don't blame them. If you're a resident, MY experience, you know alternative places to go and have the time to build contacts. If you just want a new girl every time, regulars don't work. I don't blame the providers when they take a windfall advantage, but repeat business counts a lot as it's literally money in the bank.

Bottom line: visitors have the cash, residents have the knowledge, and if you're smart, you can leverage said knowledge to your advantage.This post summarizes how I feel about pricing. 1. Law of supply and demand govern the prices. No small group can make a big change in pricing. 2. The 2-week millionaire isn't going to turn away the girl he likes to save 500 or 1000 or even 2000 baht.

The added twist is some girls come to the game looking for the big money of tourism. Without tourists, there would be fewer girls available.

I'm neither a 2-week millionaire nor an expat. I tend to spend about 10 or 12 weeks per year in Thailand.

NovaThings
12-28-23, 18:15
About the pimp. It's nothing like the scene in nana plaza, soi cowboy or patpong. And far from the Pattaya scene. If you can convince a girl to go with you, it will be ST and the prices start at 6000 Baht ST. Then they will only consider it if you are a decent spender. That means paying for their time. How it works is you buy a bottle service package. Then you choose 1 girl for each guy. So, if you are alone, the bill will be higher of course. Then you pay about 1500-2500 Baht for the first hour with each girl and 500-800 Baht for each additional hour. They will drink from your bottle. There is no bar fine. You will need to make a side deal with the girl and they can't leave until at least 2 am. Most girls there won't do BBFS and LT. It will be one shot with a condom. But dam, they are smokin hottttt. The experience will be more of a GFE than a PSE.

For example, my last visit there cost me 25,000 Baht for my bar tab, 10,000 Baht for the lady. Have fun mate.Still on the fence about pimp not about cost but about experience. Any recommendations within NaNa? The shorter the better and I'm more into GND then plastic looking. Would prefer 3 hole as well. Plan to swing by Snow White, bkk vice?, and maybe cherry. I might just find a legit massage shop honestly by my 3rd day. But any guidance on which places have the best talent.

I'll make sure to share my pimp experience though since that sounds like a high cost high risk scenario which I'll be toft.

Watnow78
12-28-23, 19:23
Hey Guys,

So I have recently joined this website and I must say if these girls are accurate, OMG what a deal! I haven't played with the website that much, but the couple of minutes that I had scrolled through and checked out all the beautiful women, I couldn't believe my eyes. And the price is amazing. From what I understand is that you have to go to where these women work correct? And the price that they advertise is that the flat rate? Or do they try to upsell you and ask for extra baht? Also I tried downloading the app for my Android and it only shows it in thai. Is there an English version? Thank you.

Banana Boi
12-28-23, 23:47
Year after year it's the same thing. Girls will try charging more during what they perceive to be "high season". Go during low season when you have more leverage if price is a factor for you. Hotels will be cheaper in "low season" as well.

So many guys on here "settle" for a girl because she's 500 or 1000 baht cheaper. That is the opposite of what I do. It's difficult enough to find a decent girl worth barfining I'm not going to say no for 500 or 1000 more.

I would never say no to a Thermae girl for 3000 if she's clearly the best girl available. All I would think about if I got the 2500 girl was I didn't work my ass of all my life to settle for second best. 500 baht is barely enough to buy a Wendy's combo here in Tokyo.

Belvaros
12-29-23, 00:14
Year after year it's the same thing. Girls will try charging more during what they perceive to be "high season". Go during low season when you have more leverage if price is a factor for you. Hotels will be cheaper in "low season" as well.

So many guys on here "settle" for a girl because she's 500 or 1000 baht cheaper. That is the opposite of what I do. It's difficult enough to find a decent girl worth barfining I'm not going to say no for 500 or 1000 more.

I would never say no to a Thermae girl for 3000 if she's clearly the best girl available. All I would think about if I got the 2500 girl was I didn't work my ass of all my life to settle for second best. 500 baht is barely enough to buy a Wendy's combo here in Tokyo.I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300.

I think my mindset changes in TH because of the great value around and thinking in Baht (big nos) rather than US $ (small nos).

Going to pay the 3500 vig on this one this next week when I'm back from Pattaya (2 hours = 3500).

Steve 9696
12-29-23, 00:26
Due to a personal issue, my international days might be coming to an end. To the point my next trip may be my last. So I am thinking of doing something new. Maybe a can't miss. I've long heard SE Asia is a prime destination. I have covered South America and Mexico fairly well. So my struggle is deciding between Bangkok and Colombia or Brazil. Of course so much is subjective, but I have a few objective questions.

I enjoy massages, particularly body to body. I also enjoy the bar scene. I like to have a drink or two and get to know a girl before discussing term $. With that in mind, I definitely see me prioritizing the soapies and the gogos. (I'm still researching gogos and have alot to learn) Generally speaking, I seek value and don't seek out the leaat epensive option. But I do stick to a budget. Am I in the right neighborhood to budget somewhere around 16,000 baht (daily) for a quality 90-minute b2 be with at least a BBBJ AND a few drinks and maybe a couple hours with a barfined girl? (Obviously I'm not including food, airfare, hotel, etc. In that total).

I've read alot about the declining quality in looks at the soapies. Personally, I'm picky. Way too picky for a guy with my looks. LOL I am not a trophy hunter. I don't need a 10 to be happy. But I do like a pretty face. I know in Colombia, for example, I can't walk down the street without mentally salivating. Is the massage scene so bad that I'll have to visit multuple spots to find a 7?

Lastly, what is the recommended minimum stay? Or perhaps more to the point, how long does it take you to feel normal after those flights. The flights I'm looking at are 25-31 hours. I'm not staying in Thailand for a month. Say what you want, but this is not a location that I find terribly interesting to me in a tourist sense. In fact, I'm not sure I'd stay 2 weeks. Is it just crazy to make that trip for a week and a half, for example?

Thanks in advance.Your budget is plenty strong for Bangkok. You say you have done Brasil. Like Scandallo or Bomboa? Or elsewhere. Bangkok is great fun and generally cheap. Having a legit thai massage (no sex) for $10/ HR every day does not suck.

My main advice to you is don't try to do the 30 hours all at once. Stop overnight in London and you can be in Heidi's bed (Diva escort) within an hour of landing. You won't get a better B2 B FBSM anywhere worldwide. Or stop overnight in Frankfurt and do Sharks or Oase FKK. Do one coming and one on way back. This is the way to fly to Thailand. .

11Bravo
12-29-23, 04:34
So many guys on here "settle" for a girl because she's 500 or 1000 baht cheaper. That is the opposite of what I do. It's difficult enough to find a decent girl worth barfining I'm not going to say no for 500 or 1000 more.Sometimes you loose sight of the big picture. I remember once I was bargaining with a girl and we couldn't seem to reach an agreement. Then it hit me, I was balking at the equivalent of $10 USD... Geesh. For me, wherever I am, I find out the going rates, and I know what I'm willing to pay. If she asks more, I figure it never hurts to ask, and just decline. If she makes a counter-offer, I'll listen. If not, move on. She's not the only game in town. The game changes, you either adapt, or find other games. Easier to do if you're a resident, but doing some reading here definitely helps.


The added twist is some girls come to the game looking for the big money of tourism. Without tourists, there would be fewer girls available.Everywhere I've gone, girls always ask where you're from. Like I've said, the translation is: which price does she quote, tourist or resident. I'd find it entertaining to say I was wherever for the first time, and this was my first night out... Then watch her eyes spin around like a slot machine as she contemplated her good fortune. Then, in the ensuing conversation, I'd drop remarks, either local language or mentions that a first time wouldn't know, and see how long it took her to catch on. So I'm easily amused... and just about all take it in good nature...

Forty Drinks
12-29-23, 05:38
Sometimes you loose sight of the big picture. I remember once I was bargaining with a girl and we couldn't seem to reach an agreement. Then it hit me, I was balking at the equivalent of $10 USD... Geesh. For me, wherever I am, I find out the going rates, and I know what I'm willing to pay. If she asks more, I figure it never hurts to ask, and just decline. If she makes a counter-offer, I'll listen. If not, move on. She's not the only game in town. The game changes, you either adapt, or find other games. Easier to do if you're a resident, but doing some reading here definitely helps.

Everywhere I've gone, girls always ask where you're from. Like I've said, the translation is: which price does she quote, tourist or resident. I'd find it entertaining to say I was wherever for the first time, and this was my first night out... Then watch her eyes spin around like a slot machine as she contemplated her good fortune. Then, in the ensuing conversation, I'd drop remarks, either local language or mentions that a first time wouldn't know, and see how long it took her to catch on. So I'm easily amused... and just about all take it in good nature...Sage advice for our fellow Cherished Member who is willing to spend $700 on a Pattaya Soi 6 girl.

You think after all these years living in Thailand he would research Pricing.

Rich Tourist indian s Spending 10,000 in Jannat I can give a Pass.

They spend most of their time helping us with our Dell Computer 💻 Issues.

Nyezhov
12-29-23, 06:00
I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300.

I think my mindset changes in TH because of the great value around and thinking in Baht (big nos) rather than US $ (small nos).

Going to pay the 3500 vig on this one this next week when I'm back from Pattaya (2 hours = 3500).Here is the beauty of life: she's gorgeous, but not my type. So I wouldn't give her 1500.

Goatscrot
12-29-23, 08:04
Every place I've been, every year, I hear this over and over again, for decades. Yes, visitors might spoil a few places, but Bangkok is a fairly big playground. The market is controlled by supply and demand. Tourist season, there might be fewer choices but tourist season isn't all year. If you're a visitor, yes, you want to make the most of your time, and if you've laid out the coin for the airfare, hotel, etc. , you don't want to curtail your enjoyment over some relatively small change. I don't blame them. If you're a resident, MY experience, you know alternative places to go and have the time to build contacts. If you just want a new girl every time, regulars don't work. I don't blame the providers when they take a windfall advantage, but repeat business counts a lot as it's literally money in the bank.

Bottom line: visitors have the cash, residents have the knowledge, and if you're smart, you can leverage said knowledge to your advantage.Biggest difference between today's scene and the early 00's is that residents and tourists tended to fish in the same pond and paid the same prices. Now not so much. Very few expats do the gogo scene. Drinks were cheap so you hung out with your friends at gogos.

Every night was a huge party. The shows could be fun. The double penetration show at Carnival was a hoot. Cowboy was 400 Baht BF and Nana was 500. Gals were 1 k ST and 1. 5 LT. Thermae, all gals happy with 1 k. Nana Disco 1 k as well. Street gals 500 Baht. Siam City Hotel was 1. 5 to 2 k, it was the Asian dudes Thermae. When it closed the gals and guys moves to Thermae which changed the atmosphere and the pricing structure. Gone were the fun girls who would grab your unit as you walked by and whiaper in your ear what they would do to you, replacee by non-intereactive wallflowers. Soapies were the realm of Thai guys and were pricey in comparison. At that time the local Thai punters paid more than foreigners for the most part. That certainly has changed considering the process on FF. Thai dudes want discreet. No longer kosher to hang out at a soapy with your work buddies. And places like the Pimp are for pretty wealthy Hi-so Thai dudes. And clubs like that have been around since the 90's.

Goatscrot
12-29-23, 08:06
I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300.

I think my mindset changes in TH because of the great value around and thinking in Baht (big nos) rather than US $ (small nos).

Going to pay the 3500 vig on this one this next week when I'm back from Pattaya (2 hours = 3500).I'd be ok with 3500 for MSOG and PSE performance with a gal like that.

Zhagolo52
12-29-23, 12:16
She is very pretty, I wouldn't mind spending that for fun time. Would rather spend a little more and get great service than save 500 baht less and get crap service.


I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300.

I think my mindset changes in TH because of the great value around and thinking in Baht (big nos) rather than US $ (small nos).

Going to pay the 3500 vig on this one this next week when I'm back from Pattaya (2 hours = 3500).

Forty Drinks
12-29-23, 13:21
I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300.

I think my mindset changes in TH because of the great value around and thinking in Baht (big nos) rather than US $ (small nos).

Going to pay the 3500 vig on this one this next week when I'm back from Pattaya (2 hours = 3500).Something tell me it's a HIM. Chiselled Features.

2000 year bought a Rinky Dinky Condo for $72,000 can sell today for $300,000.

It's not Healthy to remember when McDonald's Hamburger 🍔 was 20 cents.

Dcrist0527
12-29-23, 16:00
Your budget is plenty strong for Bangkok. You say you have done Brasil. Like Scandallo or Bomboa? Or elsewhere. Bangkok is great fun and generally cheap. Having a legit thai massage (no sex) for $10/ HR every day does not suck.

My main advice to you is don't try to do the 30 hours all at once. Stop overnight in London and you can be in Heidi's bed (Diva escort) within an hour of landing. You won't get a better B2 B FBSM anywhere worldwide. Or stop overnight in Frankfurt and do Sharks or Oase FKK. Do one coming and one on way back. This is the way to fly to Thailand. .Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the tips. As for Brazil, my mongering has been in Rio. I visited SP but as a true tourist. Regret not stopping at Scandallo now. But in Rio, I visited 1 clinica per day for b2 be and a termas each night. (That worked well and why I think 1 nuru + 1 bar in Thailand would be the way to go.) At $10/ HR, I might add in a legit massage to the plan each day. LOL.

And I like the flight tips. Most flights from here to BKK take me through Istanbul, Doha or UAE. Some have up to a 24-hour layover so it breaks it up nice, I suppose. But you can bet I'm researching Heidi after I submit this response. LOL It's most likely I'll go back to Colombia, which is my favorite destination. But BKK sticks in my head because, if this is my last trip, I want no regrets. Haha Thanks again.

Steve 9696
12-29-23, 19:00
Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the tips. As for Brazil, my mongering has been in Rio. I visited SP but as a true tourist. Regret not stopping at Scandallo now. But in Rio, I visited 1 clinica per day for b2 be and a termas each night. (That worked well and why I think 1 nuru + 1 bar in Thailand would be the way to go.) At $10/ HR, I might add in a legit massage to the plan each day. LOL.

And I like the flight tips. Most flights from here to BKK take me through Istanbul, Doha or UAE. Some have up to a 24-hour layover so it breaks it up nice, I suppose. But you can bet I'm researching Heidi after I submit this response. LOL It's most likely I'll go back to Colombia, which is my favorite destination. But BKK sticks in my head because, if this is my last trip, I want no regrets. Haha Thanks again.You don't actually have to take the routes they give you. You can book a round trip to London say and a round trip from London to Bangkok separately. This often comes out cheaper than doing a single booking and you have a lot more flexibility.

Banana Boi
12-29-23, 22:58
I hear you. I lived in Tokyo in the early 90's at the end of the BOOM, couldn't have dinner for 2 at a decent place with wine for under US $300..This is a mistaken stereotype people have of the current Japan. When I was in Tokyo in the early 1990's I agree everything seemed really expensive to me. The Yen was very strong back then. Now the Yen is worth less than half the amount it was in the early 90's. You can go to decent restaurants and have a bowl of udon, gyoza, and a katsu don for $7 US. Yes, $7 US! If you only want beef and rice there are many places for only 170 yen ($1. 20 US) to $2. 50 US. Japan is dirt cheap (if you don't need Western restaurants like Denny's) unless you want AYCE Kobe or wagyu beef for about $60 US. Stay a block or two off the packed tourist areas. Japan salaries are very low and there is no pay equality for women. Why you are starting to see more and more young girls working the streets and many red light districts.

I put Wendy's as my example so Americans would know what I'm referring to. $15 US for a combo but Wendy's is branded quite differently in Japan. It wants to be a high end Artisan style fast food chain. I never go to Wendy's here because they have outpriced themselves. Carl's Jr is less than half the price as Wendy's Japan.


Everywhere I've gone, girls always ask where you're from. Like I've said, the translation is: which price does she quote, tourist or resident. I'd find it entertaining to say I was wherever for the first time, and this was my first night out... Then watch her eyes spin around like a slot machine as she contemplated her good fortune. Then, in the ensuing conversation, I'd drop remarks, either local language or mentions that a first time wouldn't know, and see how long it took her to catch on. So I'm easily amused... and just about all take it in good nature...

Yes, I think all of us who have lived in Thailand play that game saying it's our first night in Thailand. Usually quickly ruined by another girl in the bar who recognizes you. My favorite when I'm doing this is when the victim says to another girl in Thai this guy is new. Then the other girl says he can speak Thai!

HorseTrader
12-29-23, 23:41
You don't actually have to take the routes they give you. You can book a round trip to London say and a round trip from London to Bangkok separately. This often comes out cheaper than doing a single booking and you have a lot more flexibility.I tried this concept a few times times, it was always much more expensive to book 2 shorter round trips than 1 longer round trip. I tried to get 2+ days layovers in Vienna, Istanbul, and Seoul. Sometimes the airlines let you select your layover that might be 24-hours later than I would normally select (e.g. , 4-hour or 28-hour layover), that can be an OK deal but only 24 hours to visit a place isn't very much time. Whenever I've called the airline for flexible scheduling the price goes up for telephone assisted reservations, my best deals for several years have always been booked online.

PayForIt
12-30-23, 02:18
First timers or even second or third timers are wasting their time in Thaniya.I just do not know how you reach that opinion.

Whilst I don't fit into any of those categories, I've had better nights in Thaniya than I've ever had in Therme, Nana or Cowboy. Why do inexperienced punters therefore fare worse? No reason. Provided a guy has the balls to approach he will do very well in Thaniya.

Davey1965
12-30-23, 03:59
It's not Healthy to remember when McDonald's Hamburger 🍔 was 20 cents.Remember the McD T. V. Commercials that stated you could get a hamburger, fries and a coke and still get change back from your dollar. I remember trying to sneak in a cheeseburger and getting scolded, just be happy I was getting the hamburger. LOL.

Nyezhov
12-30-23, 05:57
I just do not know how you reach that opinion.

Whilst I don't fit into any of those categories, I've had better nights in Thaniya than I've ever had in Therme, Nana or Cowboy. Why do inexperienced punters therefore fare worse? No reason. Provided a guy has the balls to approach he will do very well in Thaniya.How do I reach that opinion? Well after 40 years in Thailand I can tell you, even just based on the questions asked on this board, that people should learn how to crawl before they walk. If you don't know the pricing structure in various venues, if you if you need to ask how to approach a Thai girl, if you don't understand the difference between a Korean and a Japanese style venue, if you have to ask whether a hotel is a girlfriend friendly or not, if you don't even know how to act in Nana or Thermae, if you're constant cheap Charliing over $20, then you shouldn't be in a venue which is designed for Japanese people. If you can't figure out where you are, you shouldn't be somewhere else.

You think these newbies are able to run a marathon before they can stand on their own two feet?

Up to you kids but I've been doing this for 40 years and I will tell you that if you are inexperienced in Thailand, don't bother with Thaniya. If that upsets a fanboy, well nothing I can do about it. Personally, I enjoy Thaniya myself. I also speak pidgen Japanese.

News flash news flash news flash: Read back years and years boys and girls and you'll see reports of the famous Sukhumvit worm dude.

Nyezhov
12-30-23, 06:07
Well hopefully the mods will put this one right next to the one I just posted, because I accidentally hit the upload button and of course we don't get a chance to edit God knows why, but regardless, I haven't seen the original worm Dude since before COVID, however, he has been replaced by a new and improved generation z worm dude, who, typically of modern youth, doesn't put his face on the ground and crawl up and down the sidewalk, rather, he lays on top of a skateboard. Life is complete we have a worm dude again.

Termae was dead last night. I spied one I wanted, but she refused me because she said I'm " too big". Well that's not exactly true, she was very small, and there's a perfect illustration of how the Thermae girls talk about.

I was chatting with the boss at Thermae about the old days. Think about it, it's been almost 30 years since Thermae moved to its present location.

Two girls started throwing knuckles at each other on the steps of the Ramchit last night, plenty of finger pointing, slapping, pushing and screams of Eeeee Hia!.

For those of you who seek the ultimate love, I will dash your dreams and say that school girl wasn't around last night.

Belvaros
12-30-23, 07:08
I just do not know how you reach that opinion.

Whilst I don't fit into any of those categories, I've had better nights in Thaniya than I've ever had in Therme, Nana or Cowboy. Why do inexperienced punters therefore fare worse? No reason. Provided a guy has the balls to approach he will do very well in Thaniya.Amen. I've had great times. Woeful times and all in between. My last venture over Christmas was a disaster. But I'm back next week and am bringing Hihongo avec moi.

Belvaros
12-30-23, 07:20
This is a mistaken stereotype people have of the current Japan. When I was in Tokyo in the early 1990's I agree everything seemed really expensive to me. The Yen was very strong back then. Now the Yen is worth less than half the amount it was in the early 90's. You can go to decent restaurants and have a bowl of udon, gyoza, and a katsu don for $7 US. Yes, $7 US! If you only want beef and rice there are many places for only 170 yen ($1. 20 US) to $2. 50 US. Japan is dirt cheap (if you don't need Western restaurants like Denny's) unless you want AYCE Kobe or wagyu beef for about $60 US. Stay a block or two off the packed tourist areas. Japan salaries are very low and there is no pay equality for women. Why you are starting to see more and more young girls working the streets and many red light districts.

I put Wendy's as my example so Americans would know what I'm referring to. $15 US for a combo but Wendy's is branded quite differently in Japan. It wants to be a high end Artisan style fast food chain. I never go to Wendy's here because they have outpriced themselves. Carl's Jr is less than half the price as Wendy's Japan.



Yes, I think all of us who have lived in Thailand play that game saying it's our first night in Thailand. Usually quickly ruined by another girl in the bar who recognizes you. My favorite when I'm doing this is when the victim says to another girl in Thai this guy is new. Then the other girl says he can speak Thai!I was talking about QUALITY restaurants. I like food. Actually love a triple Baconator (lived across the road from a Wendys in NYC in the day). Anyway, TOKYO.

I lived at San San Niju Minami Azabu. Insanely expensive PH that my idiot inv bank for at mega US $ a month. I was a mid level trader. , my boss had a 3 story house in Hiroo. Those were the days my friend.

So, I used to lunch in Roppongi (daily) at Brasserie Bernhard (Belgian French) and drop $120 on lunch a day. Places like JOEL (magical French at $250 a head). Some fancy Italian in Hiroo where they tell you the menu. Mega $300/ head. But I hear you. Loved my hole in the wall sushi and local RAMEN shops etc. But my wife (EX) was a hootie tottie and she loved Spago in Roppongi (is it still there) and the Okura Hotel teppanyaki. I was a member at the American Club and could drink 1st growth Bordeaux on my inv bank's credit by the bottle. Whatever we wanted we would get (82 Margaux, 85 Cheval Blanc etc). Oh those DAYS. Just obscene wastes of $$.

My fave places were the drinking bars = Yakitori behind curtains where I was the ONLY Gaijin they would see.

Thaniya is the same and its a lottery for us Gaijin at the best of times.

Belvaros
12-30-23, 07:21
I'd be ok with 3500 for MSOG and PSE performance with a gal like that.I'll report back when I can.

Goatscrot
12-30-23, 07:47
This is a mistaken stereotype people have of the current Japan. When I was in Tokyo in the early 1990's I agree everything seemed really expensive to me. The Yen was very strong back then. Now the Yen is worth less than half the amount it was in the early 90's. You can go to decent restaurants and have a bowl of udon, gyoza, and a katsu don for $7 US. Yes, $7 US! If you only want beef and rice there are many places for only 170 yen ($1. 20 US) to $2. 50 US. Japan is dirt cheap (if you don't need Western restaurants like Denny's) unless you want AYCE Kobe or wagyu beef for about $60 US. Stay a block or two off the packed tourist areas. Japan salaries are very low and there is no pay equality for women. Why you are starting to see more and more young girls working the streets and many red light districts.

I put Wendy's as my example so Americans would know what I'm referring to. $15 US for a combo but Wendy's is branded quite differently in Japan. It wants to be a high end Artisan style fast food chain. I never go to Wendy's here because they have outpriced themselves. Carl's Jr is less than half the price as Wendy's Japan.



Yes, I think all of us who have lived in Thailand play that game saying it's our first night in Thailand. Usually quickly ruined by another girl in the bar who recognizes you. My favorite when I'm doing this is when the victim says to another girl in Thai this guy is new. Then the other girl says he can speak Thai!Japan is one of my favorite destinations. Never engage in P4 P there, just eat, travel, and enjoy the sites and weather. It's really an amazing value now. Hotels are not expensive in food as you have stated is downright cheap for the amazing quality that you get. Once you eat ramen in Japan you really can't enjoy it anywhere else.

GDreams
12-30-23, 11:22
I tried this concept a few times times, it was always much more expensive to book 2 shorter round trips than 1 longer round trip. I tried to get 2+ days layovers in Vienna, Istanbul, and Seoul. Sometimes the airlines let you select your layover that might be 24-hours later than I would normally select (e.g. , 4-hour or 28-hour layover), that can be an OK deal but only 24 hours to visit a place isn't very much time. Whenever I've called the airline for flexible scheduling the price goes up for telephone assisted reservations, my best deals for several years have always been booked online.Ever tried multi city function for your search?

11Bravo
12-30-23, 12:46
You don't actually have to take the routes they give you. You can book a round trip to London say and a round trip from London to Bangkok separately. This often comes out cheaper than doing a single booking and you have a lot more flexibility.This works, BUT... Depending on how heavy you travel, you can get bitten. Coming back from a home leave, I booked 2 tickets, home to BKK and BKK to a sand box. Leaving the US, you get 2 bags, 50 lbs each (I was coming back from home leave so bags were full). But because I had a separate ticket for the next leg, the baggage allowance was a LOT less, and I had a choice: trash or pay the excess fees. And excess fees are not cheap. Probably wouldn't apply for a short vacation trip, but just something to be aware of.

Big Daddy 1906
12-30-23, 15:17
I'll be in Bangkok late next week. I'll be traveling a lot in the city and the hotel I'm staying at (for work) is not near the metro and I don't feel that thrilled about taking the bus. Which car service is better, Grab or Bolt? Thanks in advance.

Scarer
12-30-23, 15:52
This works, BUT... Depending on how heavy you travel, you can get bitten. Coming back from a home leave, I booked 2 tickets, home to BKK and BKK to a sand box. Leaving the US, you get 2 bags, 50 lbs each (I was coming back from home leave so bags were full). But because I had a separate ticket for the next leg, the baggage allowance was a LOT less, and I had a choice: trash or pay the excess fees. And excess fees are not cheap. Probably wouldn't apply for a short vacation trip, but just something to be aware of.The excess baggage fee is cheaper when added during the trip booking. Just make sure to check how much baggage is allowed for the entire journey per leg.

Another trick is to use the multi-city option on booking platforms, selecting convenient dates for each city you plan to visit. This way, the platform tries to suggest the cheapest options through partner airlines, and in some cases, that includes the same baggage policy for the entire journey, as it is considered a single ticket.

I usually book a UK Jakarta / Bali.

Bangkok UK as a multi-city trip and it gives me KLM / Air France combo. Later, for travel between Indonesia and Thailand, I separately book with Air Asia and select excess baggage as needed during the booking.

Scarer
12-30-23, 17:02
I'll be in Bangkok late next week. I'll be traveling a lot in the city and the hotel I'm staying at (for work) is not near the metro and I don't feel that thrilled about taking the bus. Which car service is better, Grab or Bolt? Thanks in advance.Both Grab and Bolt are good options. Grab cars are usually available more quickly than Bolt due to a larger network. Grab tends to be more expensive than Bolt, but it accepts both cards and cash (My UK Mastercard works without any problems on Grab). Bolt, on the other hand, is cash-only, and you must pay cash to the driver at the end of each trip.

Lcale1982
12-30-23, 17:56
Both Grab and Bolt are good options. Grab cars are usually available more quickly than Bolt due to a larger network. Grab tends to be more expensive than Bolt, but it accepts both cards and cash (My UK Mastercard works without any problems on Grab). Bolt, on the other hand, is cash-only, and you must pay cash to the driver at the end of each trip.Bolt accepts card now, used card on it a few months ago. Unless they removed the feature recently.

Scarer
12-30-23, 18:04
Bolt accepts card now, used card on it a few months ago. Unless they removed the feature recently.Last I tried was May 2023. Not sure if they added it recently.

NovaThings
12-30-23, 22:02
How do I reach that opinion? Well after 40 years in Thailand I can tell you, even just based on the questions asked on this board, that people should learn how to crawl before they walk. If you don't know the pricing structure in various venues, if you if you need to ask how to approach a Thai girl, if you don't understand the difference between a Korean and a Japanese style venue, if you have to ask whether a hotel is a girlfriend friendly or not, if you don't even know how to act in Nana or Thermae, if you're constant cheap Charliing over $20, then you shouldn't be in a venue which is designed for Japanese people. If you can't figure out where you are, you shouldn't be somewhere else.

You think these newbies are able to run a marathon before they can stand on their own two feet?

Up to you kids but I've been doing this for 40 years and I will tell you that if you are inexperienced in Thailand, don't bother with Thaniya. If that upsets a fanboy, well nothing I can do about it. Personally, I enjoy Thaniya myself. I also speak pidgen Japanese.

News flash news flash news flash: Read back years and years boys and girls and you'll see reports of the famous Sukhumvit worm dude.From the veterans. I was planning on pimp as my splurge. Planned to stick around nana. I prefer GND looks, is Thaniya worth the visit? Or should I roam towards pattaya. Thanks all. I'll report back as soon as I return. Plan. Nana, soapy, regular massage, sleep, pimp, different soay, sleep, rinse and repeat. Plan to find LT for days 2 and 3. Thanks all!

Forty Drinks
12-31-23, 02:05
White skin vs Blacks.

I'm prefer Whites.

Rainbow 4 girl pre COVID darkie skin always pretty but shy never had customers.

Now guys can't get enough of her. Has guys going after her while she has Customers.

You can tell she has grown up as a Bargirl. LOL.

Must be hard being thrown to the Wolves.

Forty Drinks
12-31-23, 04:14
Sat night Rainbow 4 was almost standing room only.

Dynamic pricing should have had them Raising drink prices by 50 %.

They do raise Barfine s on busy days.

Would I go if my water costed 150 baht instead of 100 baht. Is the Pope Jewish.

Nyezhov
12-31-23, 04:31
Last I tried was May 2023. Not sure if they added it recently.It doesn't matter. You are wasting valuable time and effort if you use Bolt in Bangkok.

Attention at newbies and casual visitors. Download the grab app before you arrive in Thailand. You can make it easy for yourself, and put a credit card on file, I use a Wise card myself. Your waits will be shorter, your drivers will be better, did I mention your waits will be shorter? Much shorter. Is that worth a dollar? Is to me at 2 am on Lower Suk, or when it's raining, or near "rush hour".

I don't own stock in either, I have both apps because I use Bolt in Georgia and Azerbaijan, and my recommendation is based on living here and actually using services, not just casually visiting or scrolling Instagram.

By the way AirAsia also has a ride sharing service and it's not very good. Neither is their app but that's another story.

Nyezhov
12-31-23, 07:15
White skin vs Blacks.

I'm prefer Whites.

Rainbow 4 girl pre COVID darkie skin always pretty but shy never had customers.

Now guys can't get enough of her. Has guys going after her while she has Customers.

You can tell she has grown up as a Bargirl. LOL.

Must be hard being thrown to the Wolves.What's her number I'll be there tonight.

Tomasb
12-31-23, 08:28
I have been coming to Bangkok for almost 10 years. Usually I arrive during the winter months and stay three to four months. On past trips, I used to haunt the live music places (I. E. Bangkok Beat etc.) and find working girls there. Never had to pay a barfine and usually the girl's short / long term rates were reasonable. Though I would go to NEP or Soi Cowboy on occasion, I have never once paid a barfine in these venues. Now, the barfines have risen considerable from just a few years ago, not to mention the girl's rate.

My dilemma is I am also past 70 yo and still have no interest in paying barfines and current rates at these places and the the music joints seem to have faded away or are no longer popular — Hillary2 as a case in point. But I do like a good snog with a scantily clad maiden in a go-go. So last week, I tried a few places in NEP but it did not seem in the few places I attended that there was much action going on. By action, I mean grinding, kissing, etc. I know, of course, that the girls expect remuneration in the form of LD's and perhaps a tip at the end and I have no problem with that.

Last week, I visited Geisha, Mandarin, and Billboard. Though there are many attractive ladies in each, it appeared to me that they were not getting very loose with the customers. Perhaps, I went at the wrong time of night or my timing was off but wondering amongst the board members, where is a good place at either NEP or Soi Cowboy where I can grind the night away?. I might add that I know the girls are looking for a barfine in most cases but as I am generous with LDs I would hope that enough compensation for their time. I suppose that I could ask a mama San but would prefer this type of erotic situation to develop organically and it seems to be a sticky wicket to get the mama San involved.

Expat American
12-31-23, 08:46
I have been coming to Bangkok for almost 10 years. Usually I arrive during the winter months and stay three to four months. On past trips, I used to haunt the live music places (I. E. Bangkok Beat etc.) and find working girls there. Never had to pay a barfine and usually the girl's short / long term rates were reasonable. Though I would go to NEP or Soi Cowboy on occasion, I have never once paid a barfine in these venues. Now, the barfines have risen considerable from just a few years ago, not to mention the girl's rate.

My dilemma is I am also past 70 yo and still have no interest in paying barfines and current rates at these places and the the music joints seem to have faded away or are no longer popular Hillary2 as a case in point. But I do like a good snog with a scantily clad maiden in a go-go. So last week, I tried a few places in NEP but it did not seem in the few places I attended that there was much action going on. By action, I mean grinding, kissing, etc. I know, of course, that the girls expect renumeration in the form of LD's and perhaps a tip at the end and I have no problem with that.

Last week, I visited Geisha, Mandarin, and Billboard. Though there are many attractive ladies in each, it appeared to me that they were not getting very loose with the customers. Perhaps, I went at the wrong time of night or my timing was off but wondering amongst the board members, where is a good place at either NEP or Soi Cowboy where I can grind the night away?. I might add that I know the girls are looking for a barfine in most cases but as I am generous with LDs I would hope that enough compensation for their time. I suppose that I could ask a mama San but would prefer this type of erotic situation to develop organically and it seems to be a sticky wicket to get the mama San involved.Almost every bar on Cowboy I got grinding and feel up for the LD. DFK is more rare in the Gogos. Over time the value of sitting and drinking in gogo is has become less and less. I used to enjoy playtime in a bar as much as sex but nowadays in BKK I stick to the Massage Parlor / Brothels as the best guaranteed service and a decent price.

Zabavakjerkoli
12-31-23, 09:41
Hi guys,

Thanks for a lot of posts with a wealth of info.

Still, I could not find the info I need.

I am arriving to BKK tomorrow, returning after 10+ years, and I would like to find one girl to have with me for a week or so (also some travelling involved).

The girl should be high level / top quality and I am prepared to pay a reasonable price.

What is the best way to find such a girl?

Online?

Is there a venue which has high level girls and I could take her from there (pay a bar fine)?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Rgds, M.

TooDirty
12-31-23, 13:59
Hillary2 as a case in point. What's happened with Hillary2? Now I'm bummed out as it was my favorite haunt even though I can't stand Clinton. LOL.

Forty Drinks
12-31-23, 16:52
Same old same old. December 31st.

Rainbow 4 wins all around.

Lots of customers.

Lots of Barfine.

Just good Business. Are you watching Walking Street.

Barfine was extra 200 to 1,200.

Forty Drinks
12-31-23, 17:00
What's her number I'll be there tonight.Taken. No availability, waiting list. Serious I went in she already had a Customer.

I like to pay my respects but man it's tough. She is so Darn Popular.

Forty Drinks
01-01-24, 00:32
I'm on mobile Bangkok post article which I don't know how to link says occupancy rates post COVID are dismal. Legit source with long Thai name. Hahaha. Insider business man.

Jives with 20,000,000 number.

Jives with Hotel rate I previously mentioned.

Jives with my eyeballs.

Indian s, Weed and Massage Parlours to the rescue.

We all see the Weed shops moving in. We all see the Indians milling about.

Do you all see the new massage parlour sprouting up. Which makes sense as their customers are Indian s. Rent must be Cheap.

Nyezhov
01-01-24, 10:46
Taken. No availability, waiting list. Serious I went in she already had a Customer.

I like to pay my respects but man it's tough. She is so Darn Popular.Should have grabbed me to say Hi. I just stopped them there to give my waitresses a fat New Year's tip. The last one I bar find out of there wasn't there, but there was some cuties. In terms of dark skin beauties, I believe her number was 227 up in billboard, blonde hair, slinky and a beautiful light mocha / tan.

Other than that nothing memorable. I couldn't sit anywhere on the second floor too long because of the pervasive smell of grilling shrimp. There was a couple cuties in Bunnies downstairs.

Tremae was dead and the streets were light. The deaf girl area was quiet. There were no worm guys. There was a lot of obnoxious farang drunks. Adventure a whole bunch of girls headed back to the villages come out since the hooker ratio was so low. Literally, there was nobody in Termae at all.

And I did not see schoolgirl.

There were some hot farang chicks all dressed up from clubbing.

You can say what you want about the quality of the 95 baht Nana burgers, but they are sure juicy and come off that grill smoking hot. Fabulous at 2:00 am.

Forty Drinks
01-01-24, 11:09
Hi guys,

Thanks for a lot of posts with a wealth of info.

Still, I could not find the info I need.

I am arriving to BKK tomorrow, returning after 10+ years, and I would like to find one girl to have with me for a week or so (also some travelling involved).

The girl should be high level / top quality and I am prepared to pay a reasonable price.

What is the best way to find such a girl?

Online?

Is there a venue which has high level girls and I could take her from there (pay a bar fine)?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Rgds, M.We all want top 🎩128285; girls at Reasonable prices.

If you read back 100 pages you would have figured out No Have. Hahaha 🤣129315;129315;.

FernandoAlonso
01-01-24, 15:48
Happy New Year folks!

Do I understand this is the current pricing?

NP 1000 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Soi Cowboy 700 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Thermae ST 3 k+.

SW Sukhumvit 2 k ST?

Getting expensive. MPs and BJ bars haven't changed yet?

Thanks for confirming or correcting, will be there end of the month.

Best.

FA.

Forty Drinks
01-01-24, 15:49
Last live reports from the Rainbos for awhile.

What a let down from NyE. Especially the fifth. I passed.

Rainbow 4 I saw that girl I mentioned prior who Blossomed into a Superstar. She smiled I smiled but could I pay my Respects. No way in san Pedro. She got taken minutes after getting on stage. She closes the deal too. She gets Barfined a lot.

Zabavakjerkoli
01-01-24, 16:36
We all want top 🎩128285; girls at Reasonable prices.

If you read back 100 pages you would have figured out No Have. Hahaha 🤣129315;129315;.Ok lets forget the reasonable prices, haha.

Where to find the top girls (with high prices)?

Thanks!

Nyezhov
01-02-24, 01:02
Last live reports from the Rainbos for awhile.

What a let down from NyE. Especially the fifth. I passed.

Rainbow 4 I saw that girl I mentioned prior who Blossomed into a Superstar. She smiled I smiled but could I pay my Respects. No way in san Pedro. She got taken minutes after getting on stage. She closes the deal too. She gets Barfined a lot.Yep my on the ground reports are going to go through a period of interruption as I am heading back to Siem Reap and I won't be back in Bangkok till the end of February. Since Siem is a mongering desert I'm sure I'm going to hit the ground running when I return with full balls and a full wallet. I'm going to switch my mode to two week millionaire.

Tomasb
01-02-24, 04:59
That sounds about right though holidays and time of night can affect prices and BF. I would think you could also procure for less in front of NEP or with some of the newbie FL's on SUK. A few go go's charge 200 for LD's also. You could also try the clubs and skip the BF's. A friend told me that a few days ago that a GG in Oscars restaurant and night club on Soi 11 was quoting 8 k bt. Said she was worth it but he declined.

Things are getting out of hand.


Happy New Year folks!

Do I understand this is the current pricing?

NP 1000 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Soi Cowboy 700 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Thermae ST 3 k+.

SW Sukhumvit 2 k ST?.

GatorAk
01-02-24, 05:44
That sounds about right though holidays and time of night can affect prices and BF. I would think you could also procure for less in front of NEP or with some of the newbie FL's on SUK. A few go go's charge 200 for LD's also. You could also try the clubs and skip the BF's. A friend told me that a few days ago that a GG in Oscars restaurant and night club on Soi 11 was quoting 8 k bt. Said she was worth it but he declined.

Things are getting out of hand.Buddy mentioned Hollywood club to hang out at, so we decided to visit the place. They had girls outside sitting as company. They charged 1000 baht per hour or 3000 baht for the night to just drink with you. They were all beautiful, so each of us picked one for an hour just to try. The girl I was with told me she would go to my hotel for 8000 baht. I declined, and we left in less than 45 minutes since it was boring.

Nyezhov
01-02-24, 07:58
That sounds about right though holidays and time of night can affect prices and BF. I would think you could also procure for less in front of NEP or with some of the newbie FL's on SUK. A few go go's charge 200 for LD's also. You could also try the clubs and skip the BF's. A friend told me that a few days ago that a GG in Oscars restaurant and night club on Soi 11 was quoting 8 k bt. Said she was worth it but he declined.

Things are getting out of hand.Girls have always asked stupid prices in Oscars.

ErsatzJulian
01-02-24, 08:01
I have been to Doki Doki a few times, and each time it has been a pleasant experience, except for this last time. FWIW, The girl BB was terrible. Her English was good, but she was rude and wouldn't listen to instructions. And of course, YMMV.

Mogwai
01-02-24, 10:49
Happy New Year folks!
Do I understand this is the current pricing?
NP 1000 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?
Soi Cowboy 700 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?
Thermae ST 3 k+.
SW Sukhumvit 2 k ST?
Getting expensive. MPs and BJ bars haven't changed yet?
Thanks for confirming or correcting, will be there end of the month.
Best.
FA.I was quoted 1000 BF and 4000 ST for a cutie in Billboards at Nana Plaza last week. I didn't bite.
And the ladydrinks in Baccara in Soi Cowboy are 240 Baht.
The majority of the streetwalkers on Sukhumvit and in the surrounding soi's is not worth 2k, IMO. Not by far.

Mogwai
01-02-24, 10:52
Ok lets forget the reasonable prices, haha.
Where to find the top girls (with high prices)?
Thanks!There are loads of good looking girls in Thai Friendly at the moment.
Getting them is another story.

ShadowJ
01-02-24, 22:22
I'm getting ready to go for a 3 week trip to AC and Bangkok. In BKK, is there an upcharge to banging the chicks with no condom? I know in Colombia, I typically offer an extra 100,000 COP and it is no problem. Mexico, it's 50 bucks or so. In the Philippines, no upcharge required. Just tell the girl you don't like condoms or that you will "finish outside" and you are good to go.

What's the procedure in Bangkok?

ElMexicant
01-03-24, 02:34
I'm getting ready to go for a 3 week trip to AC and Bangkok. In BKK, is there an upcharge to banging the chicks with no condom? I know in Colombia, I typically offer an extra 100,000 COP and it is no problem. Mexico, it's 50 bucks or so. In the Philippines, no upcharge required. Just tell the girl you don't like condoms or that you will "finish outside" and you are good to go.

What's the procedure in Bangkok?No up charge. Go into any bar, massage shop, club, or even Thermae and ask to speak to the person in charge. Then tell them you came to Thailand for BBFS with no extra charge. All the girls will come running to you.

RockHound74
01-03-24, 03:07
No up charge. Go into any bar, massage shop, club, or even Thermae and ask to speak to the person in charge. Then tell them you came to Thailand for BBFS with no extra charge. All the girls will come running to you.For those that think this is good advice. I have a bridge that I would like to sell you.

Jimmy Boy 99
01-03-24, 03:50
No up charge. Go into any bar, massage shop, club, or even Thermae and ask to speak to the person in charge. Then tell them you came to Thailand for BBFS with no extra charge. All the girls will come running to you.I trust you recognize he is fucking with you.

GatorAk
01-03-24, 05:34
Happy New Year folks!

Do I understand this is the current pricing?

NP 1000 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Soi Cowboy 700 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Thermae ST 3 k+.

SW Sukhumvit 2 k ST?

Getting expensive. MPs and BJ bars haven't changed yet?

Thanks for confirming or correcting, will be there end of the month.

Best.

FA.Thermae 3 girls all 3 K. Lucky they all turned out to be a good choices.

EihTooms
01-03-24, 06:44
I'm getting ready to go for a 3 week trip to AC and Bangkok. In BKK, is there an upcharge to banging the chicks with no condom? I know in Colombia, I typically offer an extra 100,000 COP and it is no problem. Mexico, it's 50 bucks or so. In the Philippines, no upcharge required. Just tell the girl you don't like condoms or that you will "finish outside" and you are good to go.

What's the procedure in Bangkok?According to some punters here, in Pattaya it "just happens" all the time, no discussion or upcharge required for only 1,000 baht or 1,500 baht all in at most even for the most popular top gogo bar stunners and stars and you will have to kick them out late in the afternoon the next day. But not until after that stunner star washes, dries and irons your laundry, tidies up your apartment, leaving a pot of homemade beef and vegetable soup simmering on the stove.

Which is light-years away from my experience in Pattaya over the past 12 years and dozens of days and nights there. However, as always, YMMV. Maybe I have only engaged with girls in Pattaya who don't need to provide BBFS+CIP with anyone in order to make an easy fortune every week and month.

Now, as for Bangkok, where I live, my days of stopping at the point of entry with my dick in my hand to hear all about how I will kill the mother of her children and leave them orphans if I don't abide by the ironclad immutable law of Safety First, No Condom Means No Sex are over.

Therefore, until my sweet young GF moved in with me a few months ago most of the time I was well and surely clearing my desire for BBFS+CIP with the girl upfront, before I paid a barfine and took her from the bar, from the club or wherever. Sometimes it required an additional 500 baht or so, sometimes not. I got about a 60% success rate for a confirmed upfront Yes going that route. Sadly, the other 40% missed out on experiencing wonderfully fulfilling sex with me and a real shot at being a regular repeat for a kind and generous expat customer right around the corner from their job site. I still see many of those NO girls of the past on my rounds around town gazing enviously at my lovely GF holding my hand and probably wishing they could take back their unfortunate decision not to agree to Real Sex with me. Oh well.

I have had a vasectomy and am willing to take any STD / STI test at anytime, all of which were negative every time up until I stopped checking every 2-3 months since my regular GF moved in and has been draining me with utmost efficiency and life-altering love and affection a while back.

BTW, don't fully disregard the recommendation to tell a mamasan that you want a girl willing to engage in DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP with you. Every now and then a LD or a mere 100 baht tip will be enough to inspire one who actually does something for her pay to bring 2-3 likely candidates to you. They might not be the stunners and stars like in the Pattaya gogo bars who can be had for it routinely at no more than 1,500 baht LT including that yummy hot soup on the stove. But they can often be quite cute and more than doable for whatever is the going rate in a given venue.

Still, as always, YMMV.

Oh, and imo a truly revolutionary development has occurred with some Happy Ending shops around the Sukhumvit Soi 24 area where the girls' online profile will state "No Condom ok", Butterfly Spa being one of them as I recall. I have had no personal experience going that route.

Forty Drinks
01-03-24, 06:53
I trust you recognize he is fucking with you.With all the STDs going around I'm not so Sure.

Crocodilexp
01-03-24, 09:08
Do I understand this is the current pricing?

NP 1000 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Soi Cowboy 700 BF 2500-3000ST, LD 180?

Thermae ST 3 k+.

SW Sukhumvit 2 k ST?

Getting expensive. MPs and BJ bars haven't changed yet?
Those are the high-ish prices they open with if you ask (unless they want to be unreasonable and slap you with 4 k).

With freelancers, I never ask the price, but suggest one instead. Propose 1 k to the streetwalkers and half would agree, 1. 5 k and almost all would go, although some might grumble. Haven't gone with a Thermae girl for a while, but last year many people were getting 2 k-2. 5 k.

BJ bars like Wood or Duangporn are still 800, as far as I know.

Llantarnam
01-03-24, 17:26
There are loads of good looking girls in Thai Friendly at the moment.
Getting them is another story.I used TF quite a lot in my recent 3 week visit. If you look at their profiles:

1) 25% say they are looking for long term relationship.

2) 25% say they are freelancer / bar girl.

3) 50% don't say anything.

So group 1 you ignore, group 2 are available, but group 3 are the tricky ones as you don't know what they are looking for. I found lots of girls who were happy to start chats by confirming they were freelancers, but then wouldn't respond when I asked if they would like to meet up. Also you can set your criteria saying what age and location you are looking for, but cannot force anyone to respect them. In 3 weeks I had about 450 ladies who wanted to be my friend, but over half were grannies. Also, many weren't in Thailand.

Prices quoted ranged from 2 k - 6 k with most happy with 2. 5 k - 3 k. If you ask what services they offer the commonest reply is 'suck and fuck, no ass'. Met several nice girls, but it can be hard work.

DicPussy
01-03-24, 18:35
Few nice experience and pointers from @ 11Bravo prompted me to try MTW.

I went there the next morning I arrived & around 10:30 ish. I rang the bell and some mid aged lady opened the door and looked as if she was woken in middle of the night. I hesitated and asked her if this was right time. She opened the door welcoming. There were couple of girls and one lean and tall girl who were getting ready. The lady offered me a drink and a seat. I took the drink and the two other girls came and started massaging me softly on shoulders and around thighs. I introduced and told about my expectation from this place. LD was served for two and soon other lean tall girl joined as well.

I asked for a group BJ from three girls. The deal was agreed and soon the doors got locked and all of us were stripping to get into the act. I was on couch with my Johnny glancing, an aged lady (assume mamasan) from corner walk by and restating price for BBBJ and addition for any Love making act I might aspire to. I reassured for now I am only here for the BBBJ. She nodded and went outside. All three naked girls threw on me. One managing my tool and others were handful for both of my hands and mouth sucking those tits one by one beside me. I was fingering one pussy and others ass, while my tool was being served by other. I asked for a DFK from the tall lady followed with a DATY on her. Each took rounds on who can finish as if it was competition. I had CIM with tall lady to climax. She ran to spit in sink. I cleaned and dressed, paid the bill 3150 TBH (includes 800 per BJ+4 LDs (including Bar lady)+drink)) before saying good bye. Wished Mamasan outside the front door and she giggled.
To summarize if you ignore the looks and want a handful of naked body with some space, this is one place to try. This was my "I was here too" moment LOL.

Thanks.
DP.