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Member #4285
10-11-09, 08:05
Wait a moment... you didn't have sex yet with her and you are this infatuated? You are funny mate.
I know.. but when I was walking in the Siam buildning with a boner and holding her hand, I was sold.
But I gotta tell you if you are like this now the ladies when you land Clark are gonna eat you alive.
Thats why I have to meet you up and hold you in the hand..
...
Without this board I probebly would have a wife now. And a child.
...
Icarus,
You can't be serious ... after just a day or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus
Icarus (Greek: Ἴκαρος, Latin: Íkaros, Etruscan: Vicare) is a character in Greek mythology. He is the son of Daedalus and is commonly known for his attempt to escape Crete by flight, which ended in a fall to his death.
I am sure you remember that saga - Icarus, getting too close to the sun ... btw., what are you trying to escape from at the moment? Something you left at home?
In regards of Thailands "fauna" you are a highly endangered species. "Tigers" love to hunt down your kinds and eat them for breakfast - naahh, more have them as a "in-between" snack.
Get our of here before it is too late.
Giotto
Wait a moment... you didn't have sex yet with her and you are this infatuated? You are funny mate.
:D
I know.. but when I was walking in the Siam buildning with a boner and holding her hand, I was sold.
Actually it is precisely the situation where sex doesn't happen quickly that infatuates most guys. I don't know if it is that the 'respectful' kind of guy who is willing to wait for sex is just more prone to infatuation, or that guys just want something more when it is harder to get, but that's how it is. The main reason girls don't put out on the first date is they think guys will think less of them.
Anyway I've never felt this way - I like girls that give it up easily.
Which reminds me, I was just watching Thai porn in a short-time hotel with a girl last night, and I noticed the theme was invariably that the girl was an 'innocent' virginal type and the guy was seducing her, persuading her against her tendency to have sex. This is a common fantasy, especially in Asia. Needless to say it is very much NOT my style and I found it wholly unarousing. Happily the girl I was with was the naughty kind.
Icarus,
You can't be serious ... after just a day or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus
Icarus (Greek: Ἴκαρος, Latin: Íkaros, Etruscan: Vicare) is a character in Greek mythology. He is the son of Daedalus and is commonly known for his attempt to escape Crete by flight, which ended in a fall to his death.
I am sure you remember that saga - Icarus, getting too close to the sun ... btw., what are you trying to escape from at the moment? Something you left at home?
In regards of Thailands "fauna" you are a highly endangered species. "Tigers" love to hunt down your kinds and eat them for breakfast - naahh, more have them as a "in-between" snack.
Get our of here before it is too late.
Giotto
Oh, come on you guys, give the Kid a break. His first date with the girl was yesterday. So he got a boner holding hands. Who of us hasn’t, at least in our youth, gotten a boner holding hands? I did. Hell, even now the most experienced monger’s can get boners at the mere sight of a pretty girl.
He’s not in love. He’s in lust. Being in lust is a hell of a lot of fun. This is his first trip to the LOS. Thailand (Pattaya in particular) is the greatest place on earth for lust.
Therefore, IMHO, he should fuck the snot out of every girl who will let him, and let the Devil take the hindmost. :D
Member #4285
10-11-09, 09:57
this is not the "problems" page of a newspaper, so a dedicated thread for discussion of "tourist falls for thai girl" rubbish would be a very good move.
i agree. this is not kid icarus issues-forum. ill try to post something more relevent in the future. but as a last thing, i guess giotto is right. i escaped from bad self-confidence at home. i did had it before but in the past years its lost. then i arrive here, not for only sex im just passing thru on my around world trip and everything turns up side down. when you play here you got to stick with the rules i guess and i have not. i always think i can go my own way. im like that but maybe its impossible in asia =)
to the girl that spinns my head around for the moment i will be as honest i can be and tell her that i want her for the attraction i have to her, but i cant promise anything els than a good time when she is with me. if she say okey, then why not.
and maybe its like stogie beer says: what you cant get at the moment is alwyas more interesting. but no rule without exceptions, because the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl ive been with two times were pure sex after 10 seconds conversation outside the bar.
so, i wish you all a good day in bangkok. tonight its "sing a song" on the schedule with my newfound thaifriend. i will survive even this. worse things has happend to me in the past. but if i fly to high and get burn by the sun, its noathing i could do about it. my life is like this and has always been.
cheers :d
LittleBigMan
10-11-09, 10:02
I want to clarify, as Mouse1 noted you must treat them with respect until that respect is no longer warranted.
Rayong, Not too far from Pattaya, maybe I and Daddy07, will come but don't expect any donations!
The boner was most likely due to the quick temperture change it happens to me everytime I go watch a movie at the Thai Cinema and that's just the 110 baht seats.
Last, the photo you took is most likely hanging up now in her room next to her sister praying like hell this is her time.
LBM
From the "I can't believe I pulled a newbie" department...
Similar to how Mouse1 doesn't pay up front in Singapore, I don't typically close anything with the girl in the bar in Thailand unless she comes out and asks. I don't typically budge from 1500 ST and 2500 LT. this evening I went out to Deja Vu in Soi Cowboy looking for a sure thing. And oldie but goodie. Things didn't go well with her in the bar last time because she was flying a red flag and didn't tell me until I was ready to BF her. Tonight she either ignored me on purpose or was just preoccupied with chatter in the corner with her gfs.
I sat for a while chatting to a coyote I've taken to hanging out with when in Deja Vu and eventually I spotted a 20-year old SYT that has exactly the body type and look I like. Number 56. Bought her a drink. Liked the way she move her body. The only thing I didn't like was that she was drinking a bit more from the common hooch bottle than I think makes sense for these girls.
I BFed her and we went on our way. I guess I should have sensed something wrong when I popped into the Soi Cowboy Grocery and they didn't have the Durex Performa to which I'm partial. I could have stopped earlier in a Watsons to pick some up but I didn't. I could have bought in my home country for twice the price but in packs of 12. I didn't. So I took a look at what's on offer and check the sizes and picked something that look ok with lightning on it.
We got as far as the corner of Asoke and she starts in with "You want short time, yeah?" I said, "We'll see how it goes." We get to the room and things are going well. Her body was perfect. Of course I knew that as she was nearly naked in the bar. Her attitude was sufficiently playful. DATY and got the anticipated reaction. Now she's happy and raring to go.
After a bit of BBBJ she sits up and says "Short Time, ok?" I say, I don't want short time but 4 hours is ok. It is now quarter past midnight. "4 o'clock? How much I get?" "You'll be ok, don't worry." "How much 4 o'clock?" "I make you happy, ok?" "Mai ko chai." "I give you enough" "How much I get?" I say "2500" She says "3000" I counter with "2500" and we do the dance a bit. We had talked about going to a disco in Rathcada next week and I remind her of that. Remind her that I visit many times at Deja Vu and will be back to take her again. Meanwhile she's got me in her hand but isn't making progress. "My sister wait for me in bar." "Ok, 2:00" "How much?" "1500" "2000" "No, 1500" We continue to dance. "Ok, last time, 2:00 and you get 1500" "2000" "Ok, just go. Goodbye." I grab THB 200 from the safe and while she's still sitting naked on the edge of the bed I say "for taxi". She heads to the bathroom, grabs her stuff. Gets dressed in the living room and heads out.
At this point I'm considering whether to go out and reel in another fish, go to the bar and get my BF back or just chalk it up to a lesson relearned and go to sleep. Obviously I decided to share the experience with the lot of you and will then head to sleep. I only have 3.5 hours to sleep before heading to the airport anyway.
First time that I can recall sending a girl out with less than at least ST money. Next time I'll ensure that I at least have the ST vs LT settled in the bar which will likely lead to settling the money as well. Damn. She had just the body type I like and her English was poor enough to figure that I'd be attracted to her.
the kid just needs to pay a visit to star of light or [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.
as soon as he gets a load of brain-addling body fluids off his mind he will be able to think much more clearly.
or else he should just marry the girl, thus ruining his life.
It could have been worse, but I'm a little surprise you didn't get it cleared outside before you went to the station. You sound like a long term resident, even if drunk I would have thought 500 baht at the area would have handled it. I HATE dealing with drunk / mental / crazy thai girls and the police....
Dealing with drunk / mental / crazy farang ain't much better and it sounds like this one had at least one drink too many.
Latinas are somewhat more uninhibited, if that is what you mean, but Thais give a warmer, more gfe experience.
I think the key here is that Artful seems to be looking for a PSE rather than GFE. If the girls in South America are more uninhibited then he'll likely enjoy himself more down there. I am much more attracted to Asian women than Latinas so I can't imagine I'd be much more happy in South America.
As for the beauty factor, there are a few girls at Tulip who I'd say are very attractive in my opinion. Some for their faces. Some for their bodies and some for a combination.
I've noticed the spikey hair in the pics and that does it for me but I've never tried her. I guess she'll have to go on my list.
Shit, I'd rather not even look at 5 twos ;)
And two 5's get you hard?
Girls on DIA are mainly looking for serious partnerships unless they indicate something different in their profile. It is just a trial and error thing. Beeing clear upfront in your messages will help to find the ones who are matching your expectations and to avoid disappointment about the outcome of the date. The DIA bedding rate for me is >50% so I would say it is not to bad.
So you tell them up front you are looking for a quick lay?
Jackson - can you start a "I have fallen for a Thai girl - what's the signs/what should I do" thread.
We can then keep all this nonsense off of "Bangkok Reports" which is supposed to be about mongering in Bangkok.
This is not the "problems" page of a newspaper, so a dedicated thread for discussion of "Tourist falls for Thai girl" rubbish would be a very good move.
Oh hush already. This is a fine thread for this discussion. Next thing we'll have a thread for every freakin' soi and every bar in BKK. Kid's ramblings are in fact about mongering in Bangkok. If you don't enjoy it, well sod off already. Perhaps you can contribute something useful for a change.
I would have to agree with the 50% score percentage with a couple of clarifications.
Where do you put yourself on the looks scale?
Thats why I have to meet you up and hold you in the hand..
Kid, can you share the date you arrive in Manila? I want to see The Rabbit's reaction when you hold him in the hand. :)
First time that I can recall sending a girl out with less than at least ST money. Next time I'll ensure that I at least have the ST vs LT settled in the bar which will likely lead to settling the money as well. Damn. She had just the body type I like and her English was poor enough to figure that I'd be attracted to her.I met an absolute stunner in Orchard Towers once. Actually she was with another guy but I asked for her phone number anyway. (The guy looked really pissed off with me - very silly). Phoned her the next day and invited her over for an 8pm session, to make sure I was first in the queue! She turned up in a breathtakingly tight and sexy outfit, which turned every male head in the hotel lobby.
But in the room it all went sour. I offered her the standard rate but apparently she expected more because she was so special. I wouldn't budge and countered that I had deliberately invited her early so that she would get an extra customer. Then she insisted on showering alone behind a locked door. Finally into the bedroom and insisted the lights went out. Then finally insisted on cash up-front, by which time my enthusiasm had waned to the point where it was quite easy to ask her to leave.
A prima-donna if ever there was one. BUT (the point of the story), I probably think about her more than many other girl, wondering what I missed. :( And I'll never know, but she was definitely the sexiest girl I ever met.
I ask out waitresses and sales clerks all the time. I'd say about 25% to 33% agree to a date. Remember, I'm 50 and the girls I ask out are usually over 25 but under 35 and always 8s, 9s, and 10s. I'd like to bang some sub-25 year old chicks, but I don't get a lot of response from them.
I agree the 25+ market is pretty easy to get for free all day long, especially if they are working for 7k-9k/monthly salary. I get looks from these types all the time. But, unfortunately, I'm not attracted to anything older than 21, so I pass on all the offers.
Jackson - can you start a "I have fallen for a Thai girl - what's the signs/what should I do" thread.
We can then keep all this nonsense off of "Bangkok Reports" which is supposed to be about mongering in Bangkok.
This is not the "problems" page of a newspaper, so a dedicated thread for discussion of "Tourist falls for Thai girl" rubbish would be a very good move.
Most wind-up artist like him only hang around until their minutes of fame run out or you start ignoring them (PinkPearl, Cyberspace, et al). He'll be gone before you can say new thread.
Most wind-up artist like him only hang around until their minutes of fame run out or you start ignoring them (PinkPearl, Cyberspace, et al). He'll be gone before you can say new thread.
That would be too bad, but if we really get lucky, perhaps The Pro will vanish and take his ridiculous complaints against other posters along with him.
NicFrenchy
10-12-09, 03:15
That would be too bad, but if we really get lucky, perhaps The Pro will vanish and take his ridiculous complaints against other posters along with him.
You have the power to make him vanish already! he completely vanished from my screen :) I put him on "ignore" and don't have to read his idiotic posts anymore... well, unless someone "quotes" him and by the look of it, doesn't look like he is improving.
Nic,
How does the Ignore function work? I would like to put Pro and a few others on it.
Canyon
NicFrenchy
10-12-09, 04:00
Nic,
How does the Ignore function work? I would like to put Pro and a few others on it.
Canyon
Very easy:
You open the person's public profile and then click on "add XXX to your ignore list" (see picture attached)
Now, unfortunately, these people will not completely vanish... you will still see that they have posted a report but the content will be hidden. You will have the choice to read the post anyway (should you wish to).
Also, if someone quotes a post from a guy on your ignore list, you will see it.
;)
If you go all the way down Soi Rangnam away from the BTS, and you cross straight over Ratchaprop, you'll walk straight into a little alley leading to a shorttime (curtains) motel. Look to your left over your shoulder, and you'll see "The Best Pub". Looks like a well-established dive, dingy, red-padded walls, manned by three old guys (the youngest was 61, and speaks good English). There were about 20 ladies sitting lined up. Not the freshest, but not the worst I've seen. Prices should be about 1000-1500, but he insisted on pricing the ladies individually. They're open from 8pm to 6am. When I commented that this doesn't give him much time to see the sun, the old guy answered "Nevermind! Easy! I night people. Thirty year."
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 07:20
I met an absolute stunner in Orchard Towers once. Actually she was with another guy but I asked for her phone number anyway. (The guy looked really pissed off with me - very silly). Phoned her the next day and invited her over for an 8pm session, to make sure I was first in the queue! She turned up in a breathtakingly tight and sexy outfit, which turned every male head in the hotel lobby.
But in the room it all went sour. I offered her the standard rate but apparently she expected more because she was so special. I wouldn't budge and countered that I had deliberately invited her early so that she would get an extra customer. Then she insisted on showering alone behind a locked door. Finally into the bedroom and insisted the lights went out. Then finally insisted on cash up-front, by which time my enthusiasm had waned to the point where it was quite easy to ask her to leave.
Hmmm. Your story confuses me a little.
Firstly you are crazy IMHO to think that all girls are worth the same amount. Some are not so desperate as to go for standard rates.
2nd, shower alone, lights out, cash up front etc. seems suspicious. My immediate thought was ladyboy but there are other possibilities.
Hmmm. Your story confuses me a little.
Firstly you are crazy IMHO to think that all girls are worth the same amount. Some are not so desperate as to go for standard rates.
2nd, shower alone, lights out, cash up front etc. seems suspicious. My immediate thought was ladyboy but there are other possibilities.Standard rates go out the window for top looks. I'm pushing the Katoey alarm button on this one. ;)
Hmmm. Your story confuses me a little.
Firstly you are crazy IMHO to think that all girls are worth the same amount. Some are not so desperate as to go for standard rates.
2nd, shower alone, lights out, cash up front etc. seems suspicious. My immediate thought was ladyboy but there are other possibilities.Well, thanks for the patronising remarks. :( Just by saying IMHO doesn't mean you can be insulting. Suppose someone said to you, 'IMHO you're an arrogant jerk'. Wouldn't sound so good, would it?
My point was the vaguely relevant and barely interesting one that sometimes if you kick a girl out, you may occasionally regret it afterwards. That's it.
Because it was only a slight anecdote I didn't elaborate too much, and I don't think my post requires Derridaist literary deconstruction. So obviously I don't think all girls are worth the same amount. By standard amount I meant my (rather generous) offer that corresponded with what I had being paying for other attractive girls that week. Because we hadn't discussed price of course she wanted more than I offered, but actually rather than negotiating in a pleasant way she just pulled a sour face before eventually accepting my offer. Don't forget she was planning to head off to OT and be there for regular office hours in any case.
She wasn't a ladyboy. Stupid thing to say, because (a) although some ladyboys can be mistaken for girls, not all girls can be mistaken for ladyboys. She was small and petite, and if you saw her you would agree with my judgement; (b) we got far enough into the session for me to physically confirm that she was female; (c) I picked her up in Ipanema Bar where the staff check IDs and no ladyboys are allowed; (d) I should have said lights dimmed rather than out. I prefer lights on, but I remember she wanted the main lights off. Hardly uncommon, but just an extra annoyance; (e) 3 out of 4 girls in Singapore this trip have asked for cash up-front (and I have refused each time). These were the non-Thai girls, so perhaps different cultures / countries have different SOPs? Again, not a big deal, but it turned into an argument which spoiled the moment so I politely suggested that it wasn't going to work out and she should leave.
This is the second post of mine in recent days where you have tried to extract some tiny grain of controversy and worry it to death. What's your problem?
From the "I can't believe I pulled a newbie" department...
Wow, it looks like you met your match in the stubborness dept! If it'd been me, I probably would have just given in. Or at least struck the bargain at the midway point (1700-1800). Strange how neither of you considered the obvious: compromise, both sticking hard to your guns. Did she decline the 200? Sounds like she did warn you she wanted short time. Chalk to experience, yes. These days I tend to just go with the flow if the situation needs a little more money than I anticipated. Fine, whatever. Treat myself. Better to regret something I did than something I didn't do. But that's just me.
From the "I can't believe I pulled a newbie" department...
Similar to how Mouse1 doesn't pay up front in Singapore, I don't typically close anything with the girl in the bar in Thailand unless she comes out and asks. I don't typically budge from 1500 ST and 2500 LT. this evening I went out to Deja Vu in Soi Cowboy looking for a sure thing. And oldie but goodie. Things didn't go well with her in the bar last time because she was flying a red flag and didn't tell me until I was ready to BF her. Tonight she either ignored me on purpose or was just preoccupied with chatter in the corner with her gfs.
I sat for a while chatting to a coyote I've taken to hanging out with when in Deja Vu and eventually I spotted a 20-year old SYT that has exactly the body type and look I like. Number 56. Bought her a drink. Liked the way she move her body. The only thing I didn't like was that she was drinking a bit more from the common hooch bottle than I think makes sense for these girls.
I BFed her and we went on our way. I guess I should have sensed something wrong when I popped into the Soi Cowboy Grocery and they didn't have the Durex Performa to which I'm partial. I could have stopped earlier in a Watsons to pick some up but I didn't. I could have bought in my home country for twice the price but in packs of 12. I didn't. So I took a look at what's on offer and check the sizes and picked something that look ok with lightning on it.
We got as far as the corner of Asoke and she starts in with "You want short time, yeah?" I said, "We'll see how it goes." We get to the room and things are going well. Her body was perfect. Of course I knew that as she was nearly naked in the bar. Her attitude was sufficiently playful. DATY and got the anticipated reaction. Now she's happy and raring to go.
After a bit of BBBJ she sits up and says "Short Time, ok?" I say, I don't want short time but 4 hours is ok. It is now quarter past midnight. "4 o'clock? How much I get?" "You'll be ok, don't worry." "How much 4 o'clock?" "I make you happy, ok?" "Mai ko chai." "I give you enough" "How much I get?" I say "2500" She says "3000" I counter with "2500" and we do the dance a bit. We had talked about going to a disco in Rathcada next week and I remind her of that. Remind her that I visit many times at Deja Vu and will be back to take her again. Meanwhile she's got me in her hand but isn't making progress. "My sister wait for me in bar." "Ok, 2:00" "How much?" "1500" "2000" "No, 1500" We continue to dance. "Ok, last time, 2:00 and you get 1500" "2000" "Ok, just go. Goodbye." I grab THB 200 from the safe and while she's still sitting naked on the edge of the bed I say "for taxi". She heads to the bathroom, grabs her stuff. Gets dressed in the living room and heads out.
At this point I'm considering whether to go out and reel in another fish, go to the bar and get my BF back or just chalk it up to a lesson relearned and go to sleep. Obviously I decided to share the experience with the lot of you and will then head to sleep. I only have 3.5 hours to sleep before heading to the airport anyway.
First time that I can recall sending a girl out with less than at least ST money. Next time I'll ensure that I at least have the ST vs LT settled in the bar which will likely lead to settling the money as well. Damn. She had just the body type I like and her English was poor enough to figure that I'd be attracted to her.
you are a very nice guy for giving her 200 baht... i would have given her nothing and made sure to stop by and have a chat with the mamasan..she has probably done this with x number of guys and always gotten away with it
Better to regret something I did than something I didn't do.I agree - not a bad philosophy of life!
NicFrenchy
10-12-09, 08:52
Sounds like she did warn you she wanted short time.
Sounds like she warned him a little late too... so it's not all that fair now is it?
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 08:57
Well, thanks for the patronising remarks. :( Just by saying IMHO doesn't mean you can be insulting. Suppose someone said to you, 'IMHO you're an arrogant jerk'. Wouldn't sound so good, would it?
My point was the vaguely relevant and barely interesting one that sometimes if you kick a girl out, you may occasionally regret it afterwards. That's it.
Because it was only a slight anecdote I didn't elaborate too much, and I don't think my post requires Derridaist literary deconstruction. So obviously I don't think all girls are worth the same amount. By standard amount I meant my (rather generous) offer that corresponded with what I had being paying for other attractive girls that week. Because we hadn't discussed price of course she wanted more than I offered, but actually rather than negotiating in a pleasant way she just pulled a sour face before eventually accepting my offer. Don't forget she was planning to head off to OT and be there for regular office hours in any case.
She wasn't a ladyboy. Stupid thing to say, because (a) although some ladyboys can be mistaken for girls, not all girls can be mistaken for ladyboys. She was small and petite, and if you saw her you would agree with my judgement; (b) we got far enough into the session for me to physically confirm that she was female; (c) I picked her up in Ipanema Bar where the staff check IDs and no ladyboys are allowed; (d) I should have said lights dimmed rather than out. I prefer lights on, but I remember she wanted the main lights off. Hardly uncommon, but just an extra annoyance; (e) 3 out of 4 girls in Singapore this trip have asked for cash up-front (and I have refused each time). These were the non-Thai girls, so perhaps different cultures / countries have different SOPs? Again, not a big deal, but it turned into an argument which spoiled the moment so I politely suggested that it wasn't going to work out and she should leave.
This is the second post of mine in recent days where you have tried to extract some tiny grain of controversy and worry it to death. What's your problem?
I'm sorry you feel so insulted. I wasn't trying to imply anything like what you thought. "IMHO" is meant to imply that I understand its only my opinion and not necessarily that which others agree with. I respect that others have their opinion to only pay standard rates, but I have a different opinion and am willing to pay more for best girls.
Personally I don't see how every girl is worth exactly the same, just like hiring different cars cost different amounts. I have paid by a combination of quality, duration and performance.
I accept that she wasn't a LB. It was just a sudden reaction to your described suspicious behavior, and I may well be an overly suspicious type. But there is a good chance something was amiss, and you may have been lucky to have missed out this time.
Please lighten up now and I'll try to be less patronising. I don't really intend to stir up controversy so I should have been quiet about reactions to apparent strange behaviour.
But now you say "lights dimmed", it seems more innocent now.
Oh shit, it is the 2nd time. Its not intended to be personal as I don't even know you. :( Forgive me for airing differing opinions. I had better go back to information only reports. Its a lot smarter!
I seem to have had a bad habit of reacting to somewhat negative reports of others. I'll try to control these urges.
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 09:04
Sounds like she warned him a little late too... so it's not all that fair now is it?
Seems O.K. to assume ST unless otherwise agreed, to me.
There are plenty of girls around who are not doing LT or even MT (medium time) unless start early and pay a lot.
Anyway, in the end the price negotiation failed.
I'm in the Wendella camp on this one, as if you didn't guess already!
My attitude is if I wanted LT and she only is willing to go ST, just accept, get on with it and try to enjoy. Can always get another girl later if not satisfied.
Oh shit, it is the 2nd time. Its not intended to be personal as I don't even know you. :( Forgive me for airing differing opinions. I had better go back to information only reports. Its a lot smarter!OK, we're cool. :)
...we can then keep all this nonsense off of "bangkok reports" ...
i agree with the pro on this part.
... this is a fine thread for this discussion...
imho, i think that there's a more appropriate thread for this kind of discussions (such as kid icarus' (mis)adventures with a "regular" thai woman). this one: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036
... i don't typically budge from 1500 st and 2500 lt...
i'm quoting you here, pita123, but the following is just for every reader's information. i'm not often in bangkok nowadays (i live in thailand most of the year, but upcountry) but the last time i've been there for a couple of days (in mid-march and at the end of april this year), i was still quoted 1000 baht st by several pretty enough freelancers (usually 7/10 or better in my book, age range between 18 and 27 years old) at different places on sukhumvit (in front of robinson between soi 15 and soi 19, in front of thermae, and at the beer garden on soi 7 for instance). in numerous cases, this quotation included anal and i've also been allowed on many occasions to keep a few memories on video tapes. i didn't take anyone for a lt session on these recent stays (but on previous not too ancient visits, 1500 lt - plus some food and drinks usually - was possible with decent freelancers in bangkok).
i'm in my early forties and can speak some thai, so that might help, but it's not very difficult to get those (and even lower in some cases) prices in bangkok (at least with freelancers). and i am usually not disappointed about the performance and services provided at these rates in the capital city. of course, i'm very picky when i'm selecting a girl, and the most important criteria then for me is the girl's attitude and not her beauty (even if that counts too). it's usually very easy to know with freelancers if there will be a good chemistry or not later in the sack and this has very little to do with the amount of money exchanged (providing that each party agrees on the sum and of the services offered for the said amount beforehand). according to my own experiences, 1000 baht st is still considered (by many freelancers) a decent enough offer in bangkok. at least, yours truly has no difficulties at all to get laid there for this amount! some of you guys can call me “cheap charlie” if you wish, but usually, all these girls are willing to come with me again when i meet them another day and they are not of the desperate kind!
... i honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to bar-fine a [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl...
i've done that, but it was at least seven years ago. i didn't barfine this [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl for a whole night, but for just three hours. at that time, it was 600 baht (exactly the same fee - at that time again - that for a blow job on premises) and "up to me" for the girl. this one was probably prettier than your average [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) employee, very good oral skills of course, none of her holes was barred, filming was allowed, and last but not least, she was very affectionate, enthusiastic and funny... oh, and i almost forgot to say that i was her first customer on this day! ;) well worth the 1000 extra baht i gave her at the end of our 3-hour session.
I agree with The Pro on this part.
IMHO, I think that there's a more appropriate thread for this kind of discussions (such as Kid Icarus' (mis)adventures with a "regular" Thai woman). This one: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036
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The problem is that your idea of the "appropriate thread" for such discussions is in the "Thai Expat's Forum," but the Kid is a newbie to the Thai board. You are suggesting that he post a newbie report in the Expat's Forum, which IMHO, is unreasonable.
If the Pro were serious about his complaint, he might better have reported it directly to the moderator instead of being a sarcastic asshole and posting his rant on the forum.
We need newbies on this board. Without them the content gets stale. The Pro and a few others do everything they can to chase newbies away with their stupid remarks and unsubstantiated complaints.
The Kid's "tourist meets Thai girl" situation presents a typical newbie problem which is informative, entertaining and appropriate in the "Bangkok Reports."
The problem is that your idea of the "appropriate thread" for such discussions is in the "Thai Expat's Forum," but the Kid is a newbie to the Thai board. You are suggesting that he post a newbie report in the Expat's Forum, which IMHO, is unreasonable.
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Well, maybe the Thai Women - Opinions & Advice (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036) thread should be moved in the (traditional) "Thailand Forum" and not be a part of the "Thailand Expat's Forum" as it is now, but I still think that it's the appropriate thread for this kind of discussions.
Well, maybe the Thai Women - Opinions & Advice (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036) thread should be moved in the (traditional) "Thailand" forum and not be a part of the "Thailand Expat's Forum" as it is now, but I still think that it's the appropriate thread for this kind of discussions.
That we can certainly agree on.
The separation of the Thai forums was a travesty, totally unnecessary, and a pain in the ass.
LittleBigMan
10-12-09, 11:54
The stupidlity of the discussion is this....
Bangkok Thread? What falls into this catagory? What is the definition and guidelines that fall into the Bangkok Thread. Bangkok Thread could be what!
* Bangkok roads
* Bangkok places not to visit
* Bangkok eating places
* Bangkok Farang eating places
* Bangkok Local eating places
* Bangkok Farang night clubs
* Bangkok Local night clubs
* Bangkok, looking for Russian, Africans, Indian P4P
* Bangkok looking for Thai girls
* Bangkok looking for the best transportation
* Bangkok looking for cheapest transportation
* Bangkok where to buy cheap clothes
* Bangkok where to buy expensive clothes
* Bangkok how much to pay for taxi
* Bangkok how much to pay for motorbike
* Bangkok the do's and don't with a bargirl you barfine
* Bangkok the do's and don't with a Go Go girl you barfine
* Bangkok should I even visit a Bar
* Bangkok the reason why you should visit a Bar
* Bangkok how much should I spend for a Thai meal
* Bangkok how much should I pay for a stick of BBQ chicken
* Bangkok where could I go to find a good pork chop
* Bangkok where could I go to find good beef stew
* Bangkok where is the closes elephant farm
* Bangkok location of closes elephant farm
* Bangkok where is the closes tradition Thai massage
* Bangkok location of closes tradition Thai massage
* Bangkok, where is the best Thai roast pig
* Bangkok location of best Thai roast pig
* Bangkok where is the cheapest best Thai tailor
* Bangkok location of the cheapest best Thai tailor
* Bangkok where is the cheapest best Indian tailor
* Bangkok location of the cheapest best Indian tailor
Get the point because I'm getting dizzy! where does it start and end.. everytime someone gets off topic on this Thread or any other Thread some idiot makes a suggestion we need this we need that! You bunch of selfish lazy bastard! Specify what is suppose to be in the Bangkok Thread? If you think the word Bangkok means Banging ladies with your cock then just tell Jackson you want a thread for Bangkok Pussy only!
Bangkok Thread could and will include everything so how you expect others to know the limits when you guys yourself don't even know? The Moderator can't even determine when someone should get canned or follow the rules on this board and you guys are constantly telling him to move this and move that creat this creat that... no wonder he's pissed! Just go with the flow, if it's fucked up some of you might look in the mirror as to way there are some many threads.
LBM
LBM
The stupidlity of the discussion is this....
Bangkok Thread? What falls into this catagory?
Bangkok Thread could and will include everything so how you expect others to know the limits? Just go with the flow. .
LOL. You forgot to mention:
Bangkok where is the cheapest ATM? A topic for endless hours of pleasurable discussion :)
Member #4285
10-12-09, 13:52
my first plans were to be here one week as i had a pre-paid hotel when i come and then head down to the south. now im on my 16th day and probebly will stay even more. it started with 4 star hotel on soi 19, then ll on soi 33, then a 1000/bath hotel and now in a new 700/bath hotel with free (50 bath for all stay) wifi. next stop will be an apartment with my newfound wife and 10 other familymembers?
its been an intersting trip so far with doctors, anxiety, sex (one freelancer and two visits to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)) and a date with a regular thailady. yeasterday i saw this beautiful lady again and i deeply want her. im so attracted to her. she's tall, she is slim, she has big boobs (for be an thai i guess) and are very friendly. if i did not know she has a baby when she was 20 (now 26) i would think she was a lb. because ive been in the place at nana entertainment were they have a ride the bull thing and some lb were looking real great and i could not for one seccond think that they were men, or x-men. btw, if you take the escalator up, go left and in to the first bar you find amazing young woman. i hope they are legal. the bar stands out in the section of young woman. i had a talk inside with 4 older woman that was sitting there and watching the "show". i was so curious about if they were lesbians or people that work against this industry that i had to ask them. and as i thought it was the second thing. they come to this and other places once every month to try to get the girls of the industry. the are running a jewellery factory and try to get the girls to start work there insteed of "dancing". the doorman is lb and mamasan is big. dont remember the name of the bar.
anyway, back to my newfound thaifriend. and i dont know what i have found. a x-bar girl, a real regular lady, a golddigger or a mix. littlebigman has recomended me a book (thailand fever) via pm and im going to try get it, because i dont know what im up with. when we had dinner she get her food first. in my country its a norm (not pizza with beer-friends) to wait until the rest has get their food too (over 6-7 people its okey to start eating before because the food will be coold until all 7+ has got it). okey, i dont care so much if this rule is followed or so but i would not have start eating if i got the meal first and my lady dont, especially on the first date. and after giotto has told me much about how good thailadys is behaving, like they dont drink up the beer/drink before me and so on i was a little disappointed when she started to cut her food.
but, insteed of eating she starts to feed me with her food until my own has come to the table. i was like, damn dont judge so fast kid icarus!! what a great girl!! she did not eat anything before my food arrived (2 minutes).
but then there is other things like, yes i have money, hold hand and kiss first date, worked in a hotel in pattaya (no sex according to her), she say she want a farang, she say she want to work in a bar with many farangs (i did not really get her point there..) and she looked on a thaiboy who is doorman more then one time when we were sitting in a bar yesterday (second date). i did not like that. but she looked on the girls too and thought they were sexy, and that i did not complain about hehe.
ive been at her house one time at 2 a clock in he night, but today when i asked if i could come over she sad that everybody knows her there and that people will think she is a lady for rent if they see me, and she dont whant that people think that. if i were thai no problem she sad. i guess its more people around there at this time at night (18.00). i told her, one lie and im gone without saying even goodbye (like if she has boyfriend and so on).
but she make out with me in the bar (bargirls and farangs) and many people were watching us so.. well, i dont know whats up. i guess we have to take it slow from now on and see what happends. even if my self-confidence is not what it used to be i know im still relative good looking and girls like me for who i am. fact is, yes i want to have sex with her. no, i dont want to get married and have one kid around and support her whole family. if she using me i will use her to. if shes not i have to decide what to do next. for, if she really is a good regular girl, i dont want to mess up her life if it wont be anymore then some nights with her. she is very worried that i have other ladies. i think she is burn from other relations. she say shes been single without any boy for 2 years now. hard to understand because she is in my eyes very beautiful with great body and all.
i think i take it cool, be smooth and just treat her good and dont make any promises i cant live up to. just some thoughts from bangkok.
(i put all reporting in this thread then post in 3 different)
cheers :)
/kid
edit:
lol. you forgot to mention:
bangkok where is the cheapest atm? a topic for endless hours of pleasurable discussion :)
funny you mention this, i thought all atm charge 150bath, but yeasterday i found one, krungsri atm (yellow), that has no charge. or is it a charge for just small amounts? i will try to take out a small one from this one and see..
Since I have more freebies than I will ever be able to handle, I will let you in on my secret hunting spot.
Some of the most gorgeous women in the world that I've banged (for free) are the cocktail waitresses at the high-end American hotels. Ritz Carlton, Westin, Conrad, Hyatt, JW Marriott, etc.
Let me tell you why.
First of all, these hotels don't hire homely cocktail waitresses with good personalities. Just like the airlines back in the 60's and 70s when stewardesses had to be hot, the luxury hotel cocktail waitresses are usually 9s and 10s.
Secondly, most of the guests at these high-end USA Hotels are American businessmen. That means that all these cocktail waitresses can speak at least some English.
Thirdly, the cocktail waitresses that I've banged told me that many of their co-workers took the job for the purpose of marrying a rich farang businessman. They are predisposed to wanting us.
And lastly, I enjoy a cocktail in these plush hotel bars. Sure, the drinks are expensive but I've scored some amazing snatch over the years in these bars.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
NicFrenchy
10-12-09, 15:16
The stupidlity of the discussion is this....
Bangkok Thread? What falls into this catagory? What is the definition and guidelines that fall into the Bangkok Thread. Bangkok Thread could be what!
Get the point because I'm getting dizzy! where does it start and end.. everytime someone gets off topic on this Thread or any other Thread some idiot makes a suggestion we need this we need that! You bunch of selfish lazy bastard!
I wholeheartedly agree!! exactly what I think.
You fucking fairies are still unhappy after a bunch of us got segregated to the expat forum, adn when a newbie comes and posts his experiences, you assholes are still whining?
My god, never can shut these people up, go get laid instead of crying.
What do these working girls do during their period? Do they not work? Or do they just mop it up and keep working?
I've never noticed any blood spots leftover from any of my P4P romps. Ever.
I guess it doesn't matter since I always cover my junk. Just curious.
NicFrenchy
10-12-09, 15:21
i've done that, but it was at least seven years ago. i didn't barfine this [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girl for a whole night, but for just three hours.
i've done that too... oh wait, no, i didn't pay the barfine cause she wanted to go on a date :d
great freebie (the report might still be here somewhere if someone is brave enough to look) that ended up costing me more than the bf & sex but who cares.
My first plans were to be here one week as I had a pre-paid hotel when I come and then head down to the south. Now Im on my 16th day and probebly will stay even more. It started with 4 star hotel on soi 19, then LL on soi 33, then a 1000/bath hotel and now in a new 700/bath hotel with free (50 bath for all stay) Wifi. Next stop will be an apartment with my newfound wife and 10 other familymembers?
SNIPPED >><<
Cheers :)
/Kid
edit:
Funny you mention this, I thought all ATM charge 150bath, but yeasterday I found one, Krungsri ATM (yellow), that has no charge. Or is it a charge for just small amounts? I will try to take out a small one from this one and see..
Only bank that does not charge is AEON but there are few to be found.
I'd be interested in knowing the 700 bt with free wifi hotel. Always on the lookout for another place to try.
Thanks!
Sounds like she warned him a little late too... so it's not all that fair now is it?
Well she did mention it at the corner of Asoke. I avoided the question. I guess the issue of 'how much' could have gone down there and if it didn't work out we could have walked back to Soi Cowboy.
To have waited until after she got off and had me in her hand... well.. that was a bit low.
I half expected her to throw the 200 on the floor and thought for a moment she had when she went into the bathroom. I think she did drop it at some point but she had it when she walked out the door. She did leave behind a cute little hairpin with an enamel butterfly on it. I'm toying with going back and returning it to her next time I'm in town.
NicFrenchy
10-12-09, 16:08
She is very worried that I have other ladies. I think she is burn from other relations. She say shes been single without any boy for 2 years now. Hard to understand because she is in my eyes very beautiful with great body and all.
I think I take it cool, be smooth and just treat her good and dont make any promises I cant live up to. Just some thoughts from Bangkok.
She should be worried. You're young, white, have cash, what does she expect?
You can be honest and tell her that you're not here to find true love but you're ready to see if it works out. And for the sex part, you can take it slow with her but make sure you nail other Thai ladies!
What the fuck is wrong with you? I am also young (ish) and can't go a few days without Clam!
Make sure you don't wait for her, this is YOUR trip to LOS adn you don't want to look back regretting all the things you could have done.
Simple fact: if she does not give away her clam, there are many many out there ready to fulfill your desires. Don't get the yellow fever yet, your way too young for that.
A lot of people are going to hate me for saying that buy.... Please drop her while you still can. Don't get hooked.
(and don't think that you aren't going to be... many have said that and then acted like idiots thinking "my girl's different"... hahaha yeah right).
I see it every day from my staff, single girls have many Boyfriends, married girls with kids fuck other guys "on the side" while the male staff hump the females. One lady got pregnant from a guy in the office: problem is she's married with kids.
Don't waste your time, it's a culture you don't and will most likely never understand.
Best is to come here when you're an old fart, retire here and fuck stunners until you die.
Traveler1234
10-12-09, 16:17
I wholeheartedly agree!! exactly what I think.
You fucking fairies are still unhappy after a bunch of us got segregated to the expat forum, adn when a newbie comes and posts his experiences, you assholes are still whining?
My god, never can shut these people up, go get laid instead of crying.
Can jackson start a "dr. phil" thread and get LBM to be the moderator :D
You should still be seeing others in the side, otherwise you will regret not experiencing others. For all you know she could be holding out because she has something unpleasant or having a period.
Trust me on this.
Your dead on...
I wholeheartedly agree!! exactly what I think.
You fucking fairies are still unhappy after a bunch of us got segregated to the expat forum, adn when a newbie comes and posts his experiences, you assholes are still whining?
My god, never can shut these people up, go get laid instead of crying.
What age group? Girls from BKK?Yes 25 to 30 year old girls from BKK.
The younger ones tend to be more reluctant.
LittleBigMan
10-12-09, 17:08
LOL. You forgot to mention:
Bangkok where is the cheapest ATM? A topic for endless hours of pleasurable discussion :)
Mouse1,
Your'e right how the hell did I miss that one! Maybe because I had a wild session with a big mama on Soi 6 today that rock my world and fuck up my neck so I got somewhat tired writing Bangkok Bangkok.. so I had to take a nap!
LBM
Best is to come here when you're an old fart, retire here and fuck stunners until you die.Damn right. The best thing anyone has said around this thread in a long time.
(OK here goes, Jackson is going LOVE this one.)
In Thailand, the four "F"s are the key to happiness. Find 'em, Feel 'em, Fuck 'em, and FORGET 'em. No worries, no fucking Thai bullshit. These Thai chicks will do you like no other human beings on the planet. The con and rip have been part of their culture for over 700 years. Be aware of this and be safe.
Thai history is ALL ABOUT GLORIFYING THE CON. From seemingly lovie dovie Chiang Mai women slaughtering tens of thousands of Burmese soldiers in their sleep in ONE NIGHT. To jacking the Japanese Army in WW2, to deftly stealing thousands of tons of food and equipment from the US Airforce in Vietnam. The con is everything to the Thai people. They just can't seem to live without it.
So, fuck as many of the Thai girls you can, in fact just bang the living daylights out them until your dick falls off or you die, whichever comes first. They aren't going to lose any sleep over you one way or another. Love is all just a retarded brew of organic chemistry gone wrong anyway. They know it, and they know how to use it. So, no matter what, just realize that they are simply using it to use YOU.
Leave the Thais be. They can't help themselves from doing it, it's part of who they are. It's their nature, and it's how they protect themselves. Or, thanks to dumb-ass guys, the con is how Thai chicks propagate a healthy wealthy life. They simply know no other way.
Any old dude that has lived in Thailand long enough will tell you the same shit, and don't ever wonder why. We all have hundreds of stories that will make you laugh and cry at the same time. ;)
So, if you want a real wife, someone you can ACTUALLY TRUST, and who understands male cravings even from the time you were a little wanker looking up skirts in the 5th grade: Make damn good & sure you marry a nice girl from Tokyo, Japan. Period.
End of story.
If the Pro were serious about his complaint, he might better have reported it directly to the moderator instead of being a sarcastic asshole and posting his rant on the forum.
What? Like the Senior Members who complained about OTH? Better the complaints are aired in public than hidden behind a veil of secrecy.
LOL. You forgot to mention:
Bangkok where is the cheapest ATM? A topic for endless hours of pleasurable discussion :)
Shouldn't that be Patts where is the cheapest ATM? A topic for endless months of investigative reporting?
A lot of people are going to hate me for saying that buy.... Please drop her while you still can. Don't get hooked.
16 days and been laid 3 times... :confused: Drop her and head to the flower shop or Eden or some sure thing place twice a day for the rest of your trip and you MAY be able to salvage your trip.
Member #4285
10-12-09, 18:18
Only bank that does not charge is AEON but there are few to be found.
I'd be interested in knowing the 700 bt with free wifi hotel. Always on the lookout for another place to try.
Thanks!
Well this bank "Bank of Ayudhya" with yellow machin "Krungsri ATM" did not take any charge when I took out 5000 Bath. Ill try a smaler amount tomorrow just to see.
The hotel is on soi 8 I think (same road as on Nana Plaza, is that soi 8?) and is on left side when you entering soi 8 from sukhumvit road. Good room for 700 bath I say. Kabel-TV, AC, shower and refrigerator. 50 bath for Wifi 54mb/s for all stay. MODELINK INN is the place called.
Member #4285
10-12-09, 18:34
Don't waste your time, it's a culture you don't and will most likely never understand.
Sounds like a good advice, I guess.
16 days and been laid 3 times... :confused: Drop her and head to the flower shop or Eden or some sure thing place twice a day for the rest of your trip and you MAY be able to salvage your trip.
4 times! 2 times with the freelancer =)
Is the new famous Mango on sukhumvit soi 8? I saw a big sign with Mango on a little side street to soi 8.
Well this bank "Bank of Ayudhya" with yellow machin "Krungsri ATM" did not take any charge when I took out 5000 Bath. Ill try a smaler amount tomorrow just to see.
The hotel is on soi 8 I think (same road as on Nana Plaza, is that soi 8?) and is on left side when you entering soi 8 from sukhumvit road. Good room for 700 bath I say. Kabel-TV, AC, shower and refrigerator. 50 bath for Wifi 54mb/s for all stay. MODELINK INN is the place called.
Thanks for the information! There have been reports that Krungsri can be hit or miss on the 150 bt charge. And I've heard what kind of foreign ATM card and where from.
The hotel is on soi 8 I think (same road as on Nana Plaza, is that soi 8?) and is on left side when you entering soi 8 from sukhumvit road. Good room for 700 bath I say. Kabel-TV, AC, shower and refrigerator. 50 bath for Wifi 54mb/s for all stay. MODELINK INN is the place called.
Is the new famous Mango on sukhumvit soi 8? I saw a big sign with Mango on a little side street to soi 8.
Modelink Inn is on Sukhumvit Soi 4 (as is Nana Plaza). Mango Massage is on Sukhumvit Soi 24 (actually, about the 2nd sub-Soi on your left when coming from Sukhumvit).
I see it every day from my staff, single girls have many Boyfriends, married girls with kids fuck other guys "on the side" while the male staff hump the females. One lady got pregnant from a guy in the office: problem is she's married with kids.
So in your office there are bunch third and fourth kids in Thai families with red hair, freckles and french accent? ...
Its a bit like Days of Our Lives ...
You need to take a taxi to Pattaya and subscribe to some sort of fuck dungdeon PSE and sign in as a sex slave to get this out of your system
My first plans were to be here one week as I had a pre-paid hotel when I come and then head down to the south. Now Im on my 16th day and probebly will stay even more. It started with 4 star hotel on soi 19, then LL on soi 33, then a 1000/bath hotel and now in a new 700/bath hotel with free (50 bath for all stay) Wifi. Next stop will be an apartment with my newfound wife and 10 other familymembers?
Member #3428
10-12-09, 20:01
My god, never can shut these people up, go get laid instead of crying.
May I suggest two other threads... the whining fairy thread for people who PM jackson and then a thread for people who actually have sex in thailand.
Sorry kid, 4 times in how long??? You are not a member of the Having Sex in Thailand Thread yet :D Stick to Bangkok Reports thread for the while.
Make sure you don't wait for her, this is YOUR trip to LOS adn you don't want to look back regretting all the things you could have done....... Don't get the yellow fever yet, your way too young for that.
Great advice, totally agree with you.... Little Grasshopper grows up... maybe that can be a new thread also :D
Can jackson start a "dr. phil" thread and get LBM to be the moderator :D
LBM is smarter then Dr. Phil and LBM is too smart to be a moderator :)
What? Like the Senior Members who complained about OTH? Better the complaints are aired in public than hidden behind a veil of secrecy.
Agree, put up or shut up.... I still wonder who those two dickless wonders are. I've noticed a few Seniors go MIA but don't know if they are the ones or they are just fed up with the moderators and stopped posting.
Is the new famous Mango on sukhumvit soi 8? I saw a big sign with Mango on a little side street to soi 8.
Mango is on Soi 24. But go ahead, walk in the place on soi 8 and ask for full service sex see what happens you never know.
A lot of people are going to hate me for saying that buy.... Please drop her while you still can. Don't get hooked.
(and don't think that you aren't going to be... many have said that and then acted like idiots thinking "my girl's different"... hahaha yeah right).
People won't hate you, they just hate the truth.
Thai women are only good for fukcing. If you invest anything else other than your semen in Thailand, you're most likely gonna walk away a loser. Hit and run all day long!
Modelink Inn is on Sukhumvit Soi 4 (as is Nana Plaza). Mango Massage is on Sukhumvit Soi 24 (actually, about the 2nd sub-Soi on your left when coming from Sukhumvit).
I think he found the Big Mango pub which is off Soi 4.
People won't hate you, they just hate the truth.
Thai women are only good for fukcing. If you invest anything else other than your semen in Thailand, you're most likely gonna walk away a loser. Hit and run all day long!
Another doctoral candidate heard from.
Member #3428
10-12-09, 20:17
Thai women are only good for fukcing!
Oh come on..... they can give good massage, wash / iron your clothes well, clean your room good, wash you in the shower good, are pretty good shoppers, and are great liars etc... So they are useful for other things then just fucking.... they give great GFE.
Does your term of fucking include BJ? If not their oral skills are better then many countries...
But that is your opinion, and probably most of our opinions (of folks that have been around a while), of probably 95-99% of the women that will go with you and have sex with you in the first few dates (or hours). It's the search for that 1% that keeps a lot coming back.
Oh come on..... they can give good massage, wash / iron your clothes well, clean your room good, wash you in the shower good
This is true, but, subscribing to my way of thinking is meant to help the green newbies(Icarus) as they walk through mine fields.
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 21:26
The stupidlity of the discussion is this....
Bangkok Thread? What falls into this catagory? What is the definition and guidelines that fall into the Bangkok Thread. Bangkok Thread could be what!
LBM
In my opinion, The ISG is for mongering and sex/date oriented discussions about girls in Thailand. Therefore I believe that non-mongering stuff ought to be separate and the "General" thread seems appropriate.
Many of us don't want to read a lot of stuff where thread did not even start faintly related to mongering. I hope I haven't been guilty too often (probably have).
I believe the Bangkok Thread is therefore intended for Bangkok mongering experiences, such as bargirls, freelancers, etc. in Bangkok, that do not better fit in any more specific category. Escorts and Bangkok MPs have their own threads.
Of course I'm still waiting for Tulip and Annies threads to be merged back into MPs, as those threads are historically in a disastrous mess. :D
On the other hand if someone, who doesn't know better posts a new topic in the wrong thread, its not the end of the world, in my view. There is never going to be perfection.
Even this post is a non-mongering topic and strictly perhaps ought to go in "General". ;)
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 21:35
Found this article on Bargirls discussing the bar scenes and I have to agree with a lot of the sentiments so I thought I would post a link for anyone intested in recommended Bangkok bars (go-go etc.) in 2009:
http://www.bangkokbargirls.info/bars2009.asp
M P Lurker
10-12-09, 21:55
Have been to Baccara recently and must say the standard has risen dramtically over the last year, as have the number of girls, and have the prices. Drinks are expensive now. Some other bars cheaper.
Girls numbers ranged from 1 to about 300 so seemingly have heaps of girls in total but not all in attendance.
Standard for prettier girls to start at asking 4K LT now. otherwise they could do multiple STs in preference. So many Japanese customers willing to pay plenty to compete with.
On Sat night, one pretty girl (to my taste) had several guys come looking for her (yes I saw them), so she didn't have to take any low offers.
It was pointed out to me that Girl No. 80 was consistently the busiest every month in terms of most barfines, so probably only does ST. She had a somewhat similar to Japanese look about her (face egg shaped) but very plain in my eyes. I would not even give her a second glance.
I liked a girl from Sisaket (I thought aged 23 but she said 26) with pretty eyes, nose, lips, cheeks, hair, bottom, etc. and one or two others.
Many girls arrived quite late, e.g. still arriving after 9PM, after rain stopped and fined 4 baht per minute after 7.00PM on Weekends (2 Baht /min on other days). Clearly many girls lose their entire monthly salary in late fines or non attendance fines, each month. But these are usually the prettier girls who get bar fined regularly and make their money purely from drink commissions and customer "tips"/payments.
The prettier girls knock back plenty of customers that do not appeal to them.
Some bars have girls of suspect age that may not be able to go to Hotels that check their Ids. Be careful!
Member #3428
10-12-09, 22:55
I liked a girl from Sisaket (I thought aged 23 but she said 26) with pretty eyes, nose, lips, cheeks, hair, bottom, etc. and one or two others.
LMAO... you and I always seem to end up with girls from sisaket for some friggin reason...
Member #3428
10-13-09, 00:04
What do these working girls do during their period? Do they not work? Or do they just mop it up and keep working?
They put a sponge in, little yellow egg shaped thing, and romp away...
NicFrenchy
10-13-09, 01:34
They put a sponge in, little yellow egg shaped thing, and romp away...
Not all, but most do, yes.
Some girls will just tell you when they are on the rag adn will find other creative ways to make money: BJ, HJ, Anal...
NicFrenchy
10-13-09, 02:06
I've done that too... oh wait, no, I didn't pay the barfine cause she wanted to go on a date :D
Great freebie (the report might still be here somewhere if someone is brave enough to look) that ended up costing me more than the BF & Sex but who cares.
Ok, I found the reports:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553904&postcount=791
Second Part:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=555366&postcount=794
Errr. Try reading the tread NAME? !
This is the "Bangkok Reports" thread for reports about Mongering Activities in Bangkok.
IE. Where to go, how much to pay, what is good in terms of Mongering in Bangkok.
There is a seperate thread for Pattaya and one for Phuket etc. Get the drift?
Now, if its non-Mongering and general stuff for the mongerer (like ATM, mobile phone, golf etc. There is a "General Reports" located here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2184
If you want to talk about Expat things like Politics, Living in Thailand, Relationships with Thai girls etc. There is an Expat Section here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=769
If you want to talk about Massage there are three threads, one for Annies, one for Tulip and one for all others.
In fact, it should be very easy for even the most simple minded person to work out what to post and where. However, of course, there are people who want to use the threads to gain attention, they do not want to post in a quiet thread and they get "no attention" and these attention seekers seek to disrupt other threads with off topics in order to get attention.
Then there are those being paid for marketing who "name drop" on the wrong threads to get attention. Then there are fake names who "name drop" for marketing only. Etc etc. Etc.
If everyone would use the right threads the site would be much easier to use. And if everyone would ignore off topic posts or direct the people to the right thread. Again things would get much more simple for people wanting quick and easy access to information about what they want.
When I go to the Bangkok Reports thread, I want to read reports about places in Bangkok where I can consider going.
When I go to the Massage. Tulip thread, I want to read reports about Tulip.
If I go to the Expat section (no thanks) then I would be looking for informaiton in the thread types over there.
The trouble is, as the OTH situation proved, there are some posters on here who are purely attention seeking and they do not and will not stick to the related threads, they seek "attention" by going off topic all over the place as they only want to post where the most people are reading.
The stupidlity of the discussion is this....
Bangkok Thread? What falls into this catagory? What is the definition and guidelines that fall into the Bangkok Thread. Bangkok Thread could be what!
LittleBigMan
10-13-09, 10:02
In my opinion, The ISG is for mongering and sex/date oriented discussions about girls in Thailand. Therefore I believe that non-mongering stuff ought to be separate and the "General" thread seems appropriate.
Many of us don't want to read a lot of stuff where thread did not even start faintly related to mongering. I hope I haven't been guilty too often (probably have).
I believe the Bangkok Thread is therefore intended for Bangkok mongering experiences, such as bargirls, freelancers, etc. in Bangkok, that do not better fit in any more specific category. Escorts and Bangkok MPs have their own threads.
Of course I'm still waiting for Tulip and Annies threads to be merged back into MPs, as those threads are historically in a disastrous mess. :D
On the other hand if someone, who doesn't know better posts a new topic in the wrong thread, its not the end of the world, in my view. There is never going to be perfection.
Even this post is a non-mongering topic and strictly perhaps ought to go in "General". ;)
You are right, that is why your opinions and observations makes it hard to stick on one particular topic with crossing another! Your statement above says it all. That's why this topic will never die because we aren't perfect as you stated so why do people continue to suggest otherwise because we aren't perfect!
So we will all try to stick to a particular topic for a few days and since we aren't perfect we will sooner or later cross over again and someone will bring up the suggestion again and the world continues to turn!
LBM
When I go to the Bangkok Reports thread, I want to read reports about places in Bangkok where I can consider going.
So why don't you post a few field reports mate? You claim to do hundreds of P4P sessions a year and yet going through the past 123 posts you made I hardly see any field reports to speak of. I see a bunch of posts deriding various establishments and a bunch of banking and mobile phone tips but don't see so many reports about places in Bangkok where I can consider going. I reckon I could learn a thing or two from you if you focused on sharing experiences rather than trying to organize the forum.
I do occasionally mention a place or two, but thats it.
I do not do Field Reports where little boy can go pull his willy while reading "exciting things that people claim to have done".
I do not give a monkies what anyone else has done, the only information I need is where, what or who.
Thats all.
Like for example I gave "Mango" the thumbs up on the massage thread long before most of the "herd" started going there.
With regards to Bangkok, there is not that much "new" stuff going on at the moment (apart from the new Massage places to try). What new bars have been talked about on the Bangkok reports thread in the past 6 months that nobody already does not know about?
So why don't you post a few field reports? You claim to do hundreds of P4P sessions a year and yet going through the past 123 posts you made I hardly see any field reports to speak of. I see a bunch of posts deriding various establishments and a bunch of banking and mobile phone tips but don't see so many reports about places in Bangkok where I can consider going.
NicFrenchy
10-13-09, 16:12
In my opinion, The ISG is for mongering and sex/date oriented discussions about girls in Thailand. Therefore I believe that non-mongering stuff ought to be separate and the "General" thread seems appropriate.
Interesting comments coming from ISG's encyclopedia. You might not notice but everytime someone isn't sure of a name of doesn't write the Thai correctly, you make a whole post about Thai language and how it should be written/pronounced.
Now I agree that we should try and not go off topic so often, but you ought to practice what you preach ;)
Well actually my second, I was too beat from the flight from Tokyo and the trip to the hotel to do anything the first night.
I picked up a girl on the street, her name sounded something like Get, 19 years old very short and tiny. She turned out to be a flip flop, yes yes on the street and no no in the room, no kissing, very little BBBJ, she wanted 1000 ST 2 hours, I just pounded her until I was done, less then an hour, gave her 800 and kicked her out.
Mike
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=121906
Hi
Does anyone have more information regarding this spinner ?
Man !! she is hot !
BL
I'm not a Nana Plaza fan. Mainly because of all the lady boys.
Why would anyone go to Nana Plaza when they could go to Soi Cowboy instead? What am I missing?
I do not do Field Reports where little boy can go pull his willy while reading "exciting things that people claim to have done".What is it that makes you think that anyone would want to "pull his willy" reading about anything you claim to have done?
Its goes around and comes around. Nana Plaza used to be the place where the expats and those in the know used to go, all the tourists used to go to Patpong and Soi Cowboy was always dead.
Now the tourists go to Nana Plaza mostly, and in fact some of the go-go's in Patpong are ok now, as are the ones in Soi Cowboy.
Its always the same with Thailand, if you avoid where the herds of tourists go, its generally much better.
Nana Plaza and Soi 4 is the "known" area amongst the herds of tourists and so its goes downhill fast.
The Japanese seem well into ladyboys now, and so many bars are catering for this, and the stream of Japanese looking for ladyboys is attracting more ladyboys to go to the Nana Plaza.
To contrast presently, for a mongerer the ideal places are Phuket and Pattaya. Pattaya has the sheer volume of numbers, Phuket presently has quite a high level of good lookers.
I'm not a Nana Plaza fan. Mainly because of all the lady boys.
Why would anyone go to Nana Plaza when they could go to Soi Cowboy instead? What am I missing?
I'm not a Nana Plaza fan. Mainly because of all the lady boys.
Why would anyone go to Nana Plaza when they could go to Soi Cowbcoy instead? What am I missing?
Top-notch Angel Witch shows, Rainbow Bar girls, Carousel Bar bull riding, FLs and the total insanity in and around the plaza.
Errr. Try reading the tread NAME? !
This is the "Bangkok Reports" thread for reports about Mongering Activities in Bangkok.
IE. Where to go, how much to pay, what is good in terms of Mongering in Bangkok.
There is a seperate thread for Pattaya and one for Phuket etc. Get the drift?
Now, if its non-Mongering and general stuff for the mongerer (like ATM, mobile phone, golf etc. There is a "General Reports" located here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2184
If you want to talk about Expat things like Politics, Living in Thailand, Relationships with Thai girls etc. There is an Expat Section here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=769
If you want to talk about Massage there are three threads, one for Annies, one for Tulip and one for all others.
In fact, it should be very easy for even the most simple minded person to work out what to post and where. However, of course, there are people who want to use the threads to gain attention, they do not want to post in a quiet thread and they get "no attention" and these attention seekers seek to disrupt other threads with off topics in order to get attention.
Then there are those being paid for marketing who "name drop" on the wrong threads to get attention. Then there are fake names who "name drop" for marketing only. Etc etc. Etc.
If everyone would use the right threads the site would be much easier to use. And if everyone would ignore off topic posts or direct the people to the right thread. Again things would get much more simple for people wanting quick and easy access to information about what they want.
When I go to the Bangkok Reports thread, I want to read reports about places in Bangkok where I can consider going.
When I go to the Massage. Tulip thread, I want to read reports about Tulip.
If I go to the Expat section (no thanks) then I would be looking for informaiton in the thread types over there.
The trouble is, as the OTH situation proved, there are some posters on here who are purely attention seeking and they do not and will not stick to the related threads, they seek "attention" by going off topic all over the place as they only want to post where the most people are reading.
There is nothing in your post related to mongering in bangkok... and still you post in this thread?
Why don't you ask Jackson to create a special thread for you? Then, as there is an Annies thread, where one can discuss Annies, those masochistic guys interested in your rants could discuss it in your own thread...
You are guilty of commiting the offense you actually denounce: writing all sort of things without any positive info on the topic, mongering in Bangkok...
I'm not a Nana Plaza fan. Mainly because of all the lady boys.
Why would anyone go to Nana Plaza when they could go to Soi Cowboy instead? What am I missing?Ladyboys are a fact of life in Thailand but nowhere to be seen at the Mandarin Bar Nana Plaza. Local expat hideout, next to escalator, 2nd floor. Don't complain about the cigarette smoke. Lots of young very impressionable talent. Or, you could just head on back to Soi Cowboy and be a tourist forever.
Member #4349
10-14-09, 19:06
If I'm staying in the Amari Watergate (Watergarden? ) and I have a couple of hours spare, but not longer, and I'm not able to bring a girl back, where's the nearest and hottest monger entertainment?
Got in late last Sunday eve.
By the time I check in, hit the BG at 1am - very quiet, no passers even, eventually a nice if slightly Rubenesque girl named Poon sits with me, tells me her friend got lucky at the Landmark. I buy her a drink and see closing time at 2am out.
I decide the do the rounds up and down Suk Rd and across to Nana.
End up sitting across from Nana Hotel at 3am talking to Nong at the Soup stand with a beer. Sit across from a cute one from Udon Thani but she does not want speak with me, keeps doing make up and makes trip to bathroom in Hotel. Returns still no interaction - looked like she was ready to head somewhere but not with me ... or anyone else for that matter. Major attitude. I make small talk with Nong, 41 yo from Bangkok, nice girl, you'd never want for Soup ...
Ok I am out of there and go back to Suk Rd for some food and improvised guitar and ballads near Soi 11 before turning in about 5am.
First time, I've been prowling in this neck of woods and no catch.
It may have been the dead parrot on my shoulder or just me.
Tulips or Annies, see thread.
If I'm staying in the Amari Watergate (Watergarden? ) and I have a couple of hours spare, but not longer, and I'm not able to bring a girl back, where's the nearest and hottest monger entertainment?
mick
you do seem to have a weakness for those isaan girls from sisaket and surin etc.
you were allegedly spotted doing a twirl of the beer garden early in the week, actually going to the bathroom i thought ... on the way back you burrowed into the back of a cluster of isaan girls around a guy with a big nose. you picked out a very cute but not forward gal who was being largely ignored by that group. i was quietly watching, trying to get rid of the jet lag while a guy in front of me read the bkk post and played eye gymnastics with the same girl.
you or your twin bowled along chatted with her in thaiglish, touch her up including 2 laps of her bum with your hand and a squeeze on the left breast ... this action caused the guy in front of me to close the paper and pay his bill ....
you headed off a minute or two later .... leaving the barstool next to her vacant. really just wanted to say thanks ...
i was forced to confirep001e her jeans and hold them for fingerprinting.
bsk
thanks for report on baccara. sometimes prettiest don't perform that well.
originally posted by m p lurker
i liked a girl from sisaket (i thought aged 23 but she said 26) with pretty eyes, nose, lips, cheeks, hair, bottom, etc. and one or two others.
lmao... you and i always seem to end up with girls from sisaket for some friggin reason...
If I'm staying in the Amari Watergate (Watergarden? ) and I have a couple of hours spare, but not longer, and I'm not able to bring a girl back, where's the nearest and hottest monger entertainment?
Take a taxi to La Belle massage (classy) or Bangkok Cozy (budget) ..
my first plans were to be here one week as i had a pre-paid hotel when i come and then head down to the south. now im on my 16th day and probebly will stay even more. it started with 4 star hotel on soi 19, then ll on soi 33, then a 1000/bath hotel and now in a new 700/bath hotel with free (50 bath for all stay) wifi. next stop will be an apartment with my newfound wife and 10 other familymembers?
its been an intersting trip so far with doctors, anxiety, sex (one freelancer and two visits to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)) and a date with a regular thailady. yeasterday i saw this beautiful lady again and i deeply want her. im so attracted to her. she's tall, she is slim, she has big boobs (for be an thai i guess) and are very friendly. if i did not know she has a baby when she was 20 (now 26) i would think she was a lb. because ive been in the place at nana entertainment were they have a ride the bull thing and some lb were looking real great and i could not for one seccond think that they were men, or x-men. btw, if you take the escalator up, go left and in to the first bar you find amazing young woman. i hope they are legal. the bar stands out in the section of young woman. i had a talk inside with 4 older woman that was sitting there and watching the "show". i was so curious about if they were lesbians or people that work against this industry that i had to ask them. and as i thought it was the second thing. they come to this and other places once every month to try to get the girls of the industry. the are running a jewellery factory and try to get the girls to start work there insteed of "dancing". the doorman is lb and mamasan is big. dont remember the name of the bar.
anyway, back to my newfound thaifriend. and i dont know what i have found. a x-bar girl, a real regular lady, a golddigger or a mix. littlebigman has recomended me a book (thailand fever) via pm and im going to try get it, because i dont know what im up with. when we had dinner she get her food first. in my country its a norm (not pizza with beer-friends) to wait until the rest has get their food too (over 6-7 people its okey to start eating before because the food will be coold until all 7+ has got it). okey, i dont care so much if this rule is followed or so but i would not have start eating if i got the meal first and my lady dont, especially on the first date. and after giotto has told me much about how good thailadys is behaving, like they dont drink up the beer/drink before me and so on i was a little disappointed when she started to cut her food.
but, insteed of eating she starts to feed me with her food until my own has come to the table. i was like, damn dont judge so fast kid icarus!! what a great girl!! she did not eat anything before my food arrived (2 minutes).
but then there is other things like, yes i have money, hold hand and kiss first date, worked in a hotel in pattaya (no sex according to her), she say she want a farang, she say she want to work in a bar with many farangs (i did not really get her point there..) and she looked on a thaiboy who is doorman more then one time when we were sitting in a bar yesterday (second date). i did not like that. but she looked on the girls too and thought they were sexy, and that i did not complain about hehe.
ive been at her house one time at 2 a clock in he night, but today when i asked if i could come over she sad that everybody knows her there and that people will think she is a lady for rent if they see me, and she dont whant that people think that. if i were thai no problem she sad. i guess its more people around there at this time at night (18.00). i told her, one lie and im gone without saying even goodbye (like if she has boyfriend and so on).
but she make out with me in the bar (bargirls and farangs) and many people were watching us so.. well, i dont know whats up. i guess we have to take it slow from now on and see what happends. even if my self-confidence is not what it used to be i know im still relative good looking and girls like me for who i am. fact is, yes i want to have sex with her. no, i dont want to get married and have one kid around and support her whole family. if she using me i will use her to. if shes not i have to decide what to do next. for, if she really is a good regular girl, i dont want to mess up her life if it wont be anymore then some nights with her. she is very worried that i have other ladies. i think she is burn from other relations. she say shes been single without any boy for 2 years now. hard to understand because she is in my eyes very beautiful with great body and all.
i think i take it cool, be smooth and just treat her good and dont make any promises i cant live up to. just some thoughts from bangkok.
(i put all reporting in this thread then post in 3 different)
cheers :)
/kid
edit:
funny you mention this, i thought all atm charge 150bath, but yeasterday i found one, krungsri atm (yellow), that has no charge. or is it a charge for just small amounts? i will try to take out a small one from this one and see..
another one bites the dust.
ive been away from bkk since august and methinks i will book a flight for december for a quick nip away before the long holiday season with the fams.
quit the wife hunting and start the girl banging.
Can anyone recommend a bar or MP that has the bustiest girls in Bangkok? Or a single girl? I don't care if they are bolted or not. Slim and stacked is best but may compromise if she's top heavy. I'll be there in March and want to start dreaming...Much obliged, fellow mongers! Happy Travels!
I read in Stickman's column that there are a lot of fake knockers in Angelwitch.
I just want to give a big thanks to Tansak KTV.
Some of you may remember that I had posted that I could not sleep on the long oversea flight and was asking for advice and help.
I received a lot of good response on from the guys here.
I am rewording this post since someone PMed me after reading my original post and said that Tansak KTV might get into trouble for what he did for me.
I just want to say that Tansak KTV went out of his way, went to a lot of trouble and expense to help me out. He did this without ever have met me. Not too many guys would do something this nice for someone that they never met and I just want to publicly thank him for all his help.
Now, maybe the flights wouldn't be so bad. :D
Can anyone recommend a bar or MP that has the bustiest girls in Bangkok? Or a single girl? I don't care if they are bolted or not. Slim and stacked is best but may compromise if she's top heavy. I'll be there in March and want to start dreaming...Much obliged, fellow mongers! Happy Travels!
Angel Massage on Soi 26 have a large number of ladies with large knockers. I have personally tried a few and they are not bad. You can check out their pictures on the website - http://angel26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html.
Cheers!
Can anyone recommend a bar or MP that has the bustiest girls in Bangkok? Or a single girl? I don't care if they are bolted or not. Slim and stacked is best but may compromise if she's top heavy. I'll be there in March and want to start dreaming...Much obliged, fellow mongers! Happy Travels!
Try Boom in Love Teen VIP on Soi 33. Young lass, large natural rack.
a cluster of Isaan girls around a guy with a big nose......
You sure that wasn't the man himself? ;)
I just want to give a big thanks to Tansak KTV.
:D
Although he's on the wild side, Tansk is a real prince. He's very helpful to other ISG members.
Canyon
Although he's on the wild side, Tansk is a real prince. He's very helpful to other ISG members.
Canyon
I just never expected anyone to go through so much trouble to help someone who he never met. I am sure that he probably help out other guys here but they just did not thank him publicly.
NicFrenchy
10-16-09, 05:40
Can anyone recommend a bar or MP that has the bustiest girls in Bangkok? Or a single girl? I don't care if they are bolted or not. Slim and stacked is best but may compromise if she's top heavy. I'll be there in March and want to start dreaming...Much obliged, fellow mongers! Happy Travels!
Well, let's just see here..... despite what people think, there are quite a fair amount of Chesty prostitutes in Bangkok and I happen to know a few:
JOJO: Sukhumvit soi 22, Lavender Massage (face not the greatest, good BBBJ)
RIN: Sukhumvit soi 22, Hana Massage (older, balls massage expert)
DA: Suzie Wong (Soi Cowboy, that was last year though)
YOYO: Shebas (Soi Cowboy)
PANG: Rainbow4 (NEP)
LINDA: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
MAM: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
MAX: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
MONA: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
AOY: Sukhumvit soi 33, The Office Bar (not sure if still there)
ROD: Long Gunn (Soi Cowboy)
NUT: Sukhumvit soi 31, Orchid Massage
AM: Sukhumvit soi 31, Orchid Massage
NANCY: Sukhumvit soi 31, Orchid Massage
MIKA: Sukhumvit soi 33, Akane Massage
don't know if anyone caught the incident last night right next to the Nana BTS station at soi 7...i was strolling onto soi 7 when i witnessed a farang and a Thai gal yelling loudly at each other...she was screaming something about you have to pay...i assumed he had barfined her and they were having a spat. I later got her end of the story, but she runs the bar with 3-4 tables out on the corner of soi 7...claimed this guy ordered a mixed drink, then said that she hadn't made it with vodka as he wanted...he decided not to pay (at least this is her story)..at any rate, they yelled, it escalated a bit, and she shoved at him and he tried to slap back at her...within 5 seconds, there was a Thai guy in his face and he beat the pulp out of this guy..opened up his face pretty bad, real real ugly...regardless of what had happened, no reason for this to continue...what was sad is that absolutely nobody jumped in and tried to restrain the Thai guy. I'm pretty big and the Thai guy was small, i thought about trying to just hold him and say jai yen yen, but realized i'd probably be jumped by the tuk tuk drivers and others who were all looking on...this went on for a good 3-4 minutes, the gal from the bar even returned with a chair, which she was readying to hit the guy in the head with, although he was bloodied and battered enough by this point that it finally stopped...strangely, right out in front of Nana BTS and not a single cop about. Dont think this fellow will be returning to the land of smiles anytime soon...real sad to see stuff like this going down.
NicFrenchy
10-16-09, 08:32
...within 5 seconds, there was a Thai guy in his face and he beat the pulp out of this guy..opened up his face pretty bad, real real ugly...regardless of what had happened, no reason for this to continue...what was sad is that absolutely nobody jumped in and tried to restrain the Thai guy. I'm pretty big and the Thai guy was small, i thought about trying to just hold him and say jai yen yen, but realized i'd probably be jumped by the tuk tuk drivers and others who were all looking on...this went on for a good 3-4 minutes, the gal from the bar even returned with a chair, which she was readying to hit the guy in the head with, although he was bloodied and battered enough by this point that it finally stopped...strangely, right out in front of Nana BTS and not a single cop about. Dont think this fellow will be returning to the land of smiles anytime soon...real sad to see stuff like this going down.
Yep, and to think some idiot Farangs worship these sons of bitches to the point of wanting to be "accepted" because they Wai and talk the lingo... fuck that. No matter how hard one tries to "blend in" (no really sure why people would want to but...) it will be impossible. You are and ALWAYS will be "the Farang", that's it.
Be smart about it, be proud of your roots, come here, live a good life, get some money, fuck the honeys and that's it. Don't be stupid enough to get mixed with a chick and make her a turd (baby). One day or another, you will regret it.
Anyhow, TIT. Where is OTH? damn he would have loved to answer this post.
Very simple.
You never argue with a Thai. You disagree but keep smiling and being calm. If you lose your calm you lose the fight.
You never hit a girl or attempt to slap her. Quite simple that some guy will jump in to save her.
We are talking what, 60 baht for a shot of vodka ?
If someone can lose their temper over 60 baht they deserve to get their face bashed in.
There are people who are kind and considerate who travel the world over and never have a problem.
Then there are the "them and us" kinds of people who are, and get, exactly what they deserve.
don't know if anyone caught the incident last night right next to the Nana BTS station at soi 7...i was strolling onto soi 7 when i witnessed a farang and a Thai gal yelling loudly at each other...she was screaming something about you have to pay...i assumed he had barfined her and they were having a spat. I later got her end of the story, but she runs the bar with 3-4 tables out on the corner of soi 7...claimed this guy ordered a mixed drink, then said that she hadn't made it with vodka as he wanted...he decided not to pay (at least this is her story)..at any rate, they yelled, it escalated a bit, and she shoved at him and he tried to slap back at her...within 5 seconds, there was a Thai guy in his face and he beat the pulp out of this guy..opened up his face pretty bad, real real ugly...regardless of what had happened, no reason for this to continue...what was sad is that absolutely nobody jumped in and tried to restrain the Thai guy. I'm pretty big and the Thai guy was small, i thought about trying to just hold him and say jai yen yen, but realized i'd probably be jumped by the tuk tuk drivers and others who were all looking on...this went on for a good 3-4 minutes, the gal from the bar even returned with a chair, which she was readying to hit the guy in the head with, although he was bloodied and battered enough by this point that it finally stopped...strangely, right out in front of Nana BTS and not a single cop about. Dont think this fellow will be returning to the land of smiles anytime soon...real sad to see stuff like this going down.
...real sad to see stuff like this going down.
And the lesson for farang is stay calm no matter what ... never raise quarrel, voice or fist to a thai.
And the lesson for farang is stay calm no matter what ... never raise quarrel, voice or fist to a thai.
Easier said than done, because in many of these incidents the macho Falang is inebriated or under the influence of that popular Thai mind-altering stimulant, Yaba.
Yep, and to think some idiot Farangs worship these sons of bitches to the point of wanting to be "accepted" because they Wai and talk the lingo... fuck that. No matter how hard one tries to "blend in" (no really sure why people would want to but...) it will be impossible. You are and ALWAYS will be "the Farang", that's it.
Be smart about it, be proud of your roots, come here, live a good life, get some money, fuck the honeys and that's it. Don't be stupid enough to get mixed with a chick and make her a turd (baby). One day or another, you will regret it.
Anyhow, TIT. Where is OTH? damn he would have loved to answer this post.Yeah Nic, but OTH had become bitter to the point of my personally wondering what the fuck he was still doing here in Thailand. I jumped on him for it repeatedly. If you are angry, frustrated, & unhappy and can't seem to resolve any of it, why live in a vacuum of negativity? MOVE ON.
OK. Yes. Arguing with Thais is like running around in the street at night barking at the moon, not only is it clueless behavior, it can get you killed.
I hope that the members of ISG have read enough here to understand how it works in Thailand. You are you, you can never be them. Arguing with them is nothing but a drain on your own stamina & mentality and puts yourself in place that can never possibly be resolved. Frustration that turns you into a person that you really never wanted to be.
You do know that I wholeheartedly disagree with the language part of your equation. As I have said many times here, speaking the lingo is one of the most important things you can learn to do in Thailand. Not only do you find out what you are dealing with on a day to day basis, you get laid better, WAY better. (I have a sister act going these days that is more satisfying than I can tell you and it would have never happened without native speaking skills and vast amounts of experience of dealing with Thai chicks.)
Not speaking Thai if you live here is like not knowing how to read, you just miss out on too much. (Being versed Shakespeare, Joseph Conrad, Arthur Conan Doyle, etc. prepares you for a life in Bangkok? Of course it does!) Otherwise why not just live somewhere less complicated? Costa Rica, Peru, Western Samoa, Bali, or the Seychelles? There is a lot to this Thailand place. Getting a ton of 'tang is probably the best part of course, but there's far more to it than that.
Now then, dudes getting the stuffing knocked out of themselves for doing stupid shit happens everywhere in the world every minute of every day. The deal on Suk last night was just a little example of life anywhere. Just because it happened in Bangkok Thailand at that particular moment in time really doesn't mean shit does it? ;)
Some of you may remember that I had posted that I could not sleep on the long oversea flight and was asking for advice and help.Download all the reports discussing what should be classed as relevant subjects within this thread, and start to read them. You'll be asleep within 5 minutes... :)
Easier said than done, because in many of these incidents the macho Falang is inebriated or under the influence of that popular Thai mind-altering stimulant, Yaba.And the second lesson for farangs is to avoid inebriation and that popular Thai mind-altering stimulant, Yaba.
had a 5 day trip to thailand in transit from london to aus. first night stayed at the royal asia lodge on soi8 sukhumvit, took it on account of its convenience to the rail station for the next days hop to huahin. was too knackered to do much but go eat and find [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) which was just off soi8. went in and picked out what appeared to be the best looking girl there, well she had a nice face but once we got upstairs and took her top off we had a dose of saggy tits and a pot belly so gave up on the condiments and just got on with the main course, which as many around here will know is a bbbj cim, this she did in an ok mechanical fashion, a steady 2.5'' bob without variation which eventualy did the trick. at least better than spending 3-4000bht in a bar/fine/fee along with being at least a little entertaining. as for the hotel, i think my visa card went missing from the safe, along with some singapore cash, can't prove it but found a few of the chaps working in there a bit offputting. won't stay there again on account of that and it was a crap room to boot however cheap. (will update other threads for rest of trip)
don't know if anyone caught the incident last night right next to the Nana BTS station at soi 7...i was strolling onto soi 7 when i witnessed a farang and a Thai gal yelling loudly at each other...she was screaming something about you have to pay...i assumed he had barfined her and they were having a spat. I later got her end of the story, but she runs the bar with 3-4 tables out on the corner of soi 7...claimed this guy ordered a mixed drink, then said that she hadn't made it with vodka as he wanted...he decided not to pay (at least this is her story)..at any rate, they yelled, it escalated a bit, and she shoved at him and he tried to slap back at her...within 5 seconds, there was a Thai guy in his face and he beat the pulp out of this guy..opened up his face pretty bad, real real ugly...regardless of what had happened, no reason for this to continue...what was sad is that absolutely nobody jumped in and tried to restrain the Thai guy. I'm pretty big and the Thai guy was small, i thought about trying to just hold him and say jai yen yen, but realized i'd probably be jumped by the tuk tuk drivers and others who were all looking on...this went on for a good 3-4 minutes, the gal from the bar even returned with a chair, which she was readying to hit the guy in the head with, although he was bloodied and battered enough by this point that it finally stopped...strangely, right out in front of Nana BTS and not a single cop about. Dont think this fellow will be returning to the land of smiles anytime soon...real sad to see stuff like this going down.
It only goes to show some people are really stupid that they do not learn the rules of behaviour when travelling to other countries. Is it worth a few dollars to have your head bashed for non-payment?
Always walk away from trouble even if you are right. You will never win a fight or argument with locals.
GREAT SUCCESS!!!! He saved 4 dollars! Sounds too fuckin stupid to save it any other way.
It only goes to show some people are really stupid that they do not learn the rules of behaviour when travelling to other countries. Is it worth a few dollars to have your head bashed for non-payment?
Always walk away from trouble even if you are right. You will never win a fight or argument with locals.
Download all the reports discussing what should be classed as relevant subjects within this thread, and start to read them. You'll be asleep within 5 minutes... :)
Thanks, I will try that on the flight over. :D
Satrai2000
10-16-09, 19:12
Things like the foreign bro beaten up near Nana BTS happened before. I remember a big muscular guy severely beaten up by a couple of Thai men at NEP a few years ago. What happened? Two nights before this guy took a girl from one of the NEP-bars to his hotel, had sex with her, but did not pay her. The night after he did the same, I. E. Had sex with a gal without paying. Now the third night: when he got to the bar a couple of little Thai welcomed him and kicked the shit out of him. Sad but. I don't know.
This incident posted on several Thai blogs I am told by my little friends.
Of course, with my track record, I may have slugged the farang myself ...
Most Thai are not aggressive unless under severe provocation but a drunk angry farang will hit the buttons for that sort of response.
This week in BKK I saw a number of farang's behaving badly.
There was a German or Austrian guy in the BG on Monday who was drunk. He approached several girls who cold shouldered him and then went to touch up a quieter lady who sits at the back bar. She told him to go away and then moved herself to sit opposite where I was. He followed with a string of abuse. I ordered the lady a drink and stood up at which time the BG security arrived and kicked him out.
He was later seen picking a fight at a bar on Sukumvit road. I don't think it was the same guy as described below, who was apparently American
Another guy was trying to loudly negotiate anal sex with several girls, none of which were keen to provide: "I will get my friend for you!". Seemed reasonable but would not take no for an answer and then go irate. He went off in a huff.
Some guys have no idea how to behave.
GREAT SUCCESS!!!! He saved 4 dollars! Sounds too fuckin stupid to save it any other way.
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Originally Posted by Sammon
It only goes to show some people are really stupid that they do not learn the rules of behaviour when travelling to other countries. Is it worth a few dollars to have your head bashed for non-payment?
Always walk away from trouble even if you are right. You will never win a fight or argument with locals.
You sure that wasn't the man himself? ;)
Mick Lurker? Anything is possible in BKK.
On the subject of girls from that precinct, I met couple this week.
On the described night, I was watching the scene quietly and moved to sit next to a cute Isaan girl. Her name is Beer, from Sisaket. I asked her if this was her garden, she said "Nooo, but i get bought a lot of beer here - Man come up, ask name, I say Beer, they buy one but I can only drink half, I give to my friends." Nice. She is 22 yo, speaks minimal English, has a killer body, slim but with shape and when we got back in the room, young breasts to die for. In any case, really nice girl, whose eyes light up when she smiles. She only does BG during the day, as she has a 2 yo child to look after on the outskirts of BKK. She drives a hard bargain - I wanted ST for 1200 THB and moved to 1500 THB, she would not budge from 2000 THB. Eventually settled on 1500GHB with 500THB if I was happy.
I took her and friend Lek (29 yo dark skinned girl from Surin with high cheek bones and very expressive face) en duplas for 3+ hours. Excellent. I was happy.
Repeated with Lek next day taking some time just to watch the scene at Thermae in the evening - interesting, Japanese guys numbers are down and there was an excess of SYTs even looking at OWGs like me. I was saving myself for a next day daytime with Beer. She showed up early and we had the day together - really nice. I will see her again on next visit.
So much for girls from Sisaket
Member #3428
10-17-09, 01:38
Yep, and to think some idiot Farangs worship these sons of bitches to the point of wanting to be "accepted" because they Wai and talk the lingo... fuck that. No matter how hard one tries to "blend in" (no really sure why people would want to but...) it will be impossible. You are and ALWAYS will be "the Farang", that's it.
Be smart about it, be proud of your roots, come here, live a good life, get some money, fuck the honeys and that's it. Don't be stupid enough to get mixed with a chick and make her a turd (baby). One day or another, you will regret it.
Anyhow, TIT. Where is OTH? damn he would have loved to answer this post.
Your funny Frenchy.... You almost sound constipated.
One day I thought I understood Thailand, then I woke up :D
I've started to think it is funny how some folks want to be accepted as well. Thai is the only country never to be conquered by an outside force if I'm not mistaken. They can fight all they want amongst themselves that they want to (what is it 14 coups in their history), but they sure as shit know how to keep the foreigners in their place, out of their country, and separated. Back stabbing, lying SOB's IMHO. Once a foreigner gets too high up the food chain or starts to act or think they can not be replaced,,, wham they are out of there. Once you think you got a GF who is honest and truthful, wham, she's out the door. But damn I love the the place and the isaan girls :D
For me, it is not the thai people that are dangerous. Understand you are visitor and the thai will never respect you (even your TGF, their friends, their families, etc...). If it gets better and they do respect you then GREAT and wonderful but start with an understanding that you are just a piece of shit (with a wallet) so you don't get hurt or disillusioned. A girl who loves you for 10 years can walk out that door in a minute with all your property and savings if she so chooses and you can't do shit about it half the time. Saying all the negative, things can work out, you can get a good job, life, and girl but it ain't easy. Just don't expect it to happen quickly, easily or painlessly.
What is dangerous are the foreigners who think they know all about thai they are the dangerous ones in Thailand. The foreigners that come and marry / date / keep / rent whatever a bar girl / start a business or whatever you want to call it and they become instant experts on everything.
Unfortunately I have to work with a few of those. And I accept the fact the more I go to Thailand, the longer I work there, the more girls i support (I won't even call it dating :D ), the fucking less I know and understand.
Your funny Frenchy.... You almost sound constipated.
One day I thought I understood Thailand, then I woke up :D
I've started to think it is funny how some folks want to be accepted as well. Thai is the only country never to be conquered by an outside force if I'm not mistaken. They can fight all they want amongst themselves that they want to (what is it 14 coups in their history), but they sure as shit know how to keep the foreigners in their place, out of their country, and separated. Back stabbing, lying SOB's IMHO. Once a foreigner gets too high up the food chain or starts to act or think they can not be replaced,,, wham they are out of there. Once you think you got a GF who is honest and truthful, wham, she's out the door. But damn I love the the place and the isaan girls :D
For me, it is not the thai people that are dangerous. Understand you are visitor and the thai will never respect you (even your TGF, their friends, their families, etc...). If it gets better and they do respect you then GREAT and wonderful but start with an understanding that you are just a piece of shit (with a wallet) so you don't get hurt or disillusioned. A girl who loves you for 10 years can walk out that door in a minute with all your property and savings if she so chooses and you can't do shit about it half the time. Saying all the negative, things can work out, you can get a good job, life, and girl but it ain't easy. Just don't expect it to happen quickly, easily or painlessly.
What is dangerous are the foreigners who think they know all about thai they are the dangerous ones in Thailand. The foreigners that come and marry / date / keep / rent whatever a bar girl / start a business or whatever you want to call it and they become instant experts on everything.
Unfortunately I have to work with a few of those. And I accept the fact the more I go to Thailand, the longer I work there, the more girls i support (I won't even call it dating :D ), the fucking less I know and understand.Very true. I had to travel to Thailand over 20 years about 6 times every year. In 1997 I even lived there for one year. But this one year was enough for me to understand that this will never be the place I want to live and work (I had illusions about this until I tried).
For me LOS (Land of Scams) is the land of the 3 F's. Find them before they find you, Fuck them before they fuck you and Forget them before they forget you.
...For me, it is not the thai people that are dangerous. Understand you are visitor and the thai will never respect you (even your TGF, their friends, their families, etc...). If it gets better and they do respect you then GREAT and wonderful but start with an understanding that you are just a piece of shit (with a wallet)...
I’d be willing to bet that if I went to France, (or just about any other country for that matter), acting like an American, (which I can hardly help from doing because I am one), not knowing how to speak French, the natives would treat me like a piece of shit with a wallet.
The reason why I’ve done fairly well living here the last two years is the fact that I keep a low profile; do not try to be accepted; do not want to be accepted; do not care about being accepted, and only want to live in my own little world, fucking the little sweethearts and letting them go.
Member #3428
10-17-09, 03:01
The reason why I’ve done fairly well living here the last two years is the fact that I keep a low profile; do not try to be accepted; do not want to be accepted; do not care about being accepted, and only want to live in my own little world, fucking the little sweethearts and letting them go.
Exactly... you don't care what they think about you and you are not trying to be accepted. The dangerous people as I said are...
"" The foreigners that come and marry / date / keep / rent whatever a bar girl / start a business or whatever you want to call it and they become instant experts on everything. ""
Exactly... you don't care what they think about you and you are not trying to be accepted. The dangerous people as I said are...
"" The foreigners that come and marry / date / keep / rent whatever a bar girl / start a business or whatever you want to call it and they become instant experts on everything. ""
These posts are great to read. I will pass them to my other friends as we will be first time visitors.
The good thing is that we don't drink so hopefully this will stop us from doing stupid things. The other thing is that since we are new to Thailand, we will be unlikely to get into trouble since we will probably be very timid and are willing to pay rather than get into any argument.
By the way, Tansak TV, thanks for your help.
Member #3428
10-17-09, 04:05
By the way, Tansak TV, thanks for your help.
No worries about it those med's I can get easy and are legal in my part of the world, just enjoy your trip. :D
Its probably all a bit off topic but anyway, as it will be of use to people visiting Bangkok.
You have nothing to worry about. Thailand is a great place and your average visitor will have a wonderful time and want to come back again and again.
However when you come back too much, or stay too long, then Thailand can get the better of some Farangs. They end up hating the people, hating the culture, hating the place and try to endure it by pathetically believing that fucking lots of Thai girls is some kind of way back at all things Thailand they hate.
These people, of limited intelligence or limited patience or both, cannot deal with life in Thailand. They should not be here but they are as deep down they love the place even if their brain presently thinks they hate all things Thai apart from fucking the girls.
Sounds strange, it is, but beleive me you will see these people all over the place.
I have lived here 20 years, never had a problem myself. But I am one of these "under the radar" types who happily gets on with what I want. Therefore I am happy.
Those that get into "mind trouble" tend to be the "me me me" kind of person who expects people to do things their way, to change as they said so. These kind of, in a way, arrogant and ignorant people will always be unhappy wherever they are, be it Thailand or India or where ever.
Getting back to the point at hand, vsiting and living in Thailand is easy.
Simple rules:
Never insult a Thai. Its their country and you are a visitor.
Never use threatening behaviour with Thai's (Asians). This causes a loss of face and will spark a fight.
Never slap or threaten to slap a girl. All Thai men will help out their women.
Never lose your cool or shout. Always deal with a problem with a big smile. Keep smiling but do not give up your argument, just smile and keep saying it in a cool way, never raise your voice.
Thai men can hit Thai girls and vice-versa, thats ok, its their country not yours.
The above are basic rules for most Asian countries. Its just more people come to Thailand so there are more chance of "bad eggs" coming here.
Keep away from the expats, its well worth doing. I have lived here 20 years and avoid them like the plague. Too many of these are in "mind problem" category and have become "problems" themselves as they simply cannot understand Thailand but think they know it all.
You will have a really good time, thats pretty certain, do not worried at all, just be yourself. If you are a decent person who does not pick fights for no reason, who does not use foul and abusive language as thats all you know how to say, who does not get drunk and get abusive to women, who does not try to run away from unpaid bar bills etc. Then you will have a great time.
These posts are great to read. I will pass them to my other friends as we will be first time visitors.
The good thing is that we don't drink so hopefully this will stop us from doing stupid things. The other thing is that since we are new to Thailand, we will be unlikely to get into trouble since we will probably be very timid and are willing to pay rather than get into any argument.
By the way, Tansak TV, thanks for your help.
Some of you may remember that I had posted that I could not sleep on the long oversea flight and was asking for advice and help.
Didn't see your original request but here is what I am doing on long haul flights.
I start with a Scotish juice and continue with two French ones with my dinner. Then I take half of a "STILNOX" sleeping pill that will provide 4-6 hrs of good sleep.
I also use ear plugs as well as a mask and a neck pillow if not in the business class.
Member #3428
10-17-09, 04:40
Then I take half of a "STILNOX" sleeping pill that will provide 4-6 hrs of good sleep.
Stilnox is Zolpidem which is also known to others as Ambien depending where you are from.
Member #3428
10-17-09, 05:37
Those that get into "mind trouble" tend to be the "me me me" kind of person who expects people to do things their way, to change as they said so. These kind of, in a way, arrogant and ignorant people will always be unhappy wherever they are, be it Thailand or India or where ever.
Keep away from the expats, its well worth doing. I have lived here 20 years and avoid them like the plague. Too many of these are in "mind problem" category and have become "problems" themselves as they simply cannot understand Thailand but think they know it all.
Hummmm this is the first time we see eye to eye on the same issue it seems like... I guess the world is coming to an end :D
It is best to enjoy your thing with your friends not worry what other people's opinions are or what they say.
You will have a really good time, thats pretty certain, do not worried at all, just be yourself. If you are a decent person who does not pick fights for no reason, who does not use foul and abusive language as thats all you know how to say, who does not get drunk and get abusive to women, who does not try to run away from unpaid bar bills etc. Then you will have a great time.
In other words, even if you just act like a half way decent normal person from anywhere in the world you will have a great time.
Thanks guys for the feedback. I don't think we will have problem in Thailand. We have been traveling to China for the past 10 years so while we are new to Thailand, we are not new to the hobby.
I think all Asians have the same Face thing so we can handle that.
We are there to have fun and We always know that we are guests in their country. Most Chinese in China do not like us because we have more money than they do, they only allow us there because they need our money so we do tread lightly and try not to make them feel that we are better than they are or flash our money around.
...And I accept the fact the more I go to Thailand, the longer I work there, the more girls i support (I won't even call it dating :D ), the fucking less I know and understand.Now try living in Chiang Mai for 23 years. Chiang Mai people make shit up as they go along better than anyone on the planet. Not only do they do farangs, they do each other even more. ;) You get so you realize that it's all quite entertaining, whereas many farangs never do seem to get it and simply go nuts.
I do pine for the Thailand of the late 70's early 80's though.
Also, for me personally, I see any person from any country external to Thailand, who has lived here for more than six weeks, as considering themselves to be know it alls. Then I ask them "Hey, you know how to get to the Sadist Cafe? " That usually shuts them up. It's the ultimate brew of new Mercedes 600s multizillionaire dudes on down to octogenarians on shit-for-all broken bicycles spending their last Baht. A mix of rich & poor; VIP HiSos, office workers, trash collectors, taxi drivers, country bumpkins, and lots & lots of off work massage, body massage, karaoke, and lady house girls. All sitting together at the same tables under the same huge tree, all there to consume pig hearts and entrails as they come fresh out of the animal from the slaughterhouse next door. It doesn't even open until 2 am and you don't ever see farangs, maybe they get too grossed out, (but mostly they just aren't invited, similar idea to cock fighting on Sundays all over the country.) The best part is when the pig hearts are delivered still beating. You know, e-ticket Thailand stuff?
After a while you get so you understand well enough to get along. Not about going native or anything, it's just all about having fun. Like anywhere then really.
TIT
Member #4285
10-17-09, 07:59
Yeasterday, coming from the cinema and end up at Morning Night (I think it's called soo) before NEP on soi 4 for a drink with my lady. Im thinking about the fight I read about here and of course a new fight starts in front of our eyes. No blood this time but what I were thinking that strange that I have not seen more fights then I have. With a mix of so many people, alcohol, money, rich and poor people, sex etc at least one or two fights every day would be normal in Sweden. But our problem is with people that dont visit us on holiday, they coming for long time stay and taking all their problem from their homecountrys with them.
Anyway, I must say, that so far Bangkok its much safer then I first thought and much less drunk UK men in groups you normaly see when you travel. For thats a fact, drunk UK men in groups taking space and is loud is not a myth. Maybe they are in other areas? But I have meet many very friendly UK singel men that I have been talking with.
Primo Bolan
10-17-09, 09:40
Ive seen many of the englishmen, they are redhaired and hang out in groups in Pattaya most of the time and begging for troubble.
Yeasterday, coming from the cinema and end up at Morning Night (I think it's called soo) before NEP on soi 4 for a drink with my lady
Your lady didn't find it odd to be hanging out around NEP? Didn't think to take her to a straight bar?
I hadn't realized you are still in town or I'd have bought you a drink.
Well, let's just see here..... despite what people think, there are quite a fair amount of Chesty prostitutes in Bangkok and I happen to know a few:
JOJO: Sukhumvit soi 22, Lavender Massage (face not the greatest, good BBBJ)
RIN: Sukhumvit soi 22, Hana Massage (older, balls massage expert)
DA: Suzie Wong (Soi Cowboy, that was last year though)
YOYO: Shebas (Soi Cowboy)
PANG: Rainbow4 (NEP)
LINDA: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
MAM: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
MAX: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
MONA: Sukhumvit soi 24/1, Angel massage
AOY: Sukhumvit soi 33, The Office Bar (not sure if still there)
ROD: Long Gunn (Soi Cowboy)
NUT: Sukhumvit soi 31, Orchid Massage
AM: Sukhumvit soi 31, Orchid Massage
NANCY: Sukhumvit soi 31, Orchid Massage
MIKA: Sukhumvit soi 33, Akane Massage
...That's what I call an informative post..Thanks!
But one is never satisfied... Can I ask which of those girls have natural boobs? I can't stand fake ones..
GREAT SUCCESS!!!! He saved 4 dollars! Sounds too fuckin stupid to save it any other way.
not much savings either, when you think of what he probably had to spend at the hospital that night for treatment.....if the guy did as the girl said he did then he was dead wrong...but he didn't appear drunk or out of control, and it was just sad to see the thing escalate that fast..as other posters have noted here, not getting angry, keeping calm, and paying and walking away are all pretty intelligent things to do here...i feel lucky, i've been here 6 years and have never had anything along the line of bad incidences with women or men, but i certainly dont go looking for them
Member #4285
10-17-09, 18:35
Your lady didn't find it odd to be hanging out around NEP? Didn't think to take her to a straight bar?
I hadn't realized you are still in town or I'd have bought you a drink.
My hotel is on soi 4 so we jumped out of the taxi for a quick drink before we go to my hotel in the end of the street. She like looking, and today we were in Rainbow 4. She have never seen this shows before she say, and are amazed about the whole thing. Either she is fouling me big time or she really is honest.
About rich Japanese men I saw a man paying his drinks and had about 30k Bath in his hand, I guess he liked to flash a little to. They got cash, and the staff love the Japanese men =)
Im still here yes. Bangkok is like Hotel California for me.
If you want to do some shopping at much cheaper prices than downtown then you have to go to Chatuchak, or weekend market as they also call it, open on Fridays through Sundays included.
Take BTS or MRT to Mo Chit and then follow the crowds. Use light clothing because it gets hot and humid in there. Apart from computing, furniture and designer cloths you can find almost everything there at discounted prices compared to downtown shopping areas. That’s where the locals go shopping.
I was short in cash and tried six different ATMs but no one was giving me the requested amount of 20.000 Baht. I thought that this was the normal max limit. Either I am mistaken or they have a lower limit on weekends. Anyway I changed some hard currency at the banks there that they were open to accommodate the shoppers.
Now you want to read something about mongering right? Well I saw many nice young ladies there both Thais and foreigners. How about that? LOL
Well I was feeling hot and dirty after shopping so I took a cab to Chaopaya II on Sri Ayutaya road. It was once the biggest place in BKK with about 300-350 girls maybe more. It is on the decline now.
I really love soapies. I love to be in the hot bath tub with a naked woman servicing me. That’s what I really like in BKK.
I picked a big girl today. Having been to China, Hong Kong and Macau recently I wanted to try something bigger. I choose #16 her name is Nok. She is tall and a bit on the heavy side. Not a good provider though. Something rather unusual for that place.
Don’t do this don’t do that finally a lame service after all. It took her a lot of time on manual gear in order to complete her job. That was my revenge for her bad service. She is already on my avoid list. Damage was 1.700 Baht for two hours with no tip of course.
Well you can’t win everyday. Yesterday I had a very good time again with Tulip’s superstar DAO. I was avoiding her for my last three visits there but yesterday I wanted a super naughty provider and she is one of the best in that sense.
Tomorrow is another day In BKK before I go South to Pattaya for a few days.
Let me hope for something better then.
About rich Japanese men I saw a man paying his drinks and had about 30k Bath in his hand,
30k is not a lot of money in BKK nowdays.
The amount you can withdraw is based on your foreign currency accounts limits.
That will change with the daily exchange rate.
EG if you can withdraw max per day 600 US$ and the exchange rate is 50 baht then you can easily take 20,000 baht.
However if the exchange rate is 30 baht, even though the machine has the option of 20,000, you would be limited to 18,000 baht (600 x 30).
You can take 18,000, you just have to put that value in, instead of the quick option links to various amounts.
I was short in cash and tried six different ATMs but no one was giving me the requested amount of 20.000 Baht. I thought that this was the normal max limit. Either I am mistaken or they have a lower limit on weekends. Anyway I changed some hard currency at the banks there that they were open to accommodate the shoppers.
Member #4285
10-18-09, 07:05
30k is not a lot of money in BKK nowdays.
But a lot when you just go out for a drink and lady. I think. Maybe it was even more. The money-roll were so thick. What I mean is that I think he would not care if the BF is 500 or 5000 as long as he gets what he wants. Or he care, because he had all his travelling funds on him..
Member #3428
10-18-09, 07:35
But a lot when you just go out for a drink and lady. I think. Maybe it was even more. The money-roll were so thick. What I mean is that I think he would not care if the BF is 500 or 5000 as long as he gets what he wants. Or he care, because he had all his travelling funds on him..
Many Asians are known to work all year long and save and save and save, then run off on two week holiday and spend all the money they have saved up on enjoyment. Not just in BKK but in all areas of their holiday travels.
I do not mean to generalize but many in the Asian cultures are like this.
You also have the One Week Millionaires (guys from overseas come in and blow their wad acting like they own it all to impress the ladies with cash) that are abundant in town.
So 30 K is really nothing and it happens all over. I see guys blow 200,000 peso on just drinks in Burgos (manila about 4 K USD). I've seen guys in thai bar fine 10 girls as well as buying drinks for entire clubs all night long, don't know what that bill was. And idiots throwing 500 and 1,000 baht bills on the dance floor for the girls.
But a lot when you just go out for a drink and lady. I think. Maybe it was even more. The money-roll were so thick. What I mean is that I think he would not care if the BF is 500 or 5000 as long as he gets what he wants. Or he care, because he had all his travelling funds on him.Not sure I agree with this, was in BKK at Nana and Soi Cowboy the other day. I am Asian and understand Japanese. I overheard several conversations with Japanese groups. Seems they flash baht to get the best girls, then negotiate long-term stays for a lower amount, but in the end do not stay with the BG for more than 1-2 days. Not sure if this is true, just what I overheard a couple of older guys telling younger guys in Rainbow and Rawhide.
Initially several girls approached me in Japanese, my response: "kortot, pom mai phoot yeppun, khun phoot engrish" Probably got the spelling wrong; however basically am saying I do not speak Japanese and do you speak English? Interestingly several girls asked me to negotiate rates for them. Another story for another time.
Hope you get a chance to visit Afterschool, had a wild time in the Bad Boys corner.
Hp
I've done the soapy massage parlors, the BJ bars, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and while I loved them all. I found a new favorite mongering grounds: the Beer Garden on Soi 7.
For the benefit of people that haven't been there, it really is just a big giant beer garden filled with tall stand-up tables instead of low sit-down tables. The advantage is that everybody you walk by is at eye level with you. A very conducive atmosphere to striking up conversations.
Even though the bar is filled with freelancers, it has the feeling of going to a bar to try to pick up chicks. Of course, these chicks are easy to pick up.
If I had to guess, there were probably 50 men and 70 women there. The women were the usual mix of a few 9's? 10's, a few 4's/5's. I'd say the majority of the women were 6's and 7's.
The best attraction was the price. No bar fines and most of the girls were willing to do ST for 1, 000. Some of hotties wanted 1, 500 for ST and several of the lower quality talent was willing to take 700-800 for ST.
I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the Beer Garden is one of the best pussy values in Bangkok.
If you want to do some shopping at much cheaper prices than downtown then you have to go to Chatuchak, or weekend market as they also call it, open on Fridays through Sundays included.
Take BTS or MRT to Mo Chit and then follow the crowds. Use light clothing because it gets hot and humid in there. Apart from computing, furniture and designer cloths you can find almost everything there at discounted prices compared to downtown shopping areas. That’s where the locals go shopping.
I was short in cash and tried six different ATMs but no one was giving me the requested amount of 20.000 Baht. I thought that this was the normal max limit. Either I am mistaken or they have a lower limit on weekends. Anyway I changed some hard currency at the banks there that they were open to accommodate the shoppers.
Now you want to read something about mongering right? Well I saw many nice young ladies there both Thais and foreigners. How about that? LOL
Well I was feeling hot and dirty after shopping so I took a cab to Chaopaya II on Sri Ayutaya road. It was once the biggest place in BKK with about 300-350 girls maybe more. It is on the decline now.
I really love soapies. I love to be in the hot bath tub with a naked woman servicing me. That’s what I really like in BKK.
I picked a big girl today. Having been to China, Hong Kong and Macau recently I wanted to try something bigger. I choose #16 her name is Nok. She is tall and a bit on the heavy side. Not a good provider though. Something rather unusual for that place.
Don’t do this don’t do that finally a lame service after all. It took her a lot of time on manual gear in order to complete her job. That was my revenge for her bad service. She is already on my avoid list. Damage was 1.700 Baht for two hours with no tip of course.
Well you can’t win everyday. Yesterday I had a very good time again with Tulip’s superstar DAO. I was avoiding her for my last three visits there but yesterday I wanted a super naughty provider and she is one of the best in that sense.
Tomorrow is another day In BKK before I go South to Pattaya for a few days.
Let me hope for something better then.
just a word on shopping at chatuchak..while there are a few bargains to be had, for the most part i find prices there higher than elsewhere..i went yesterday and was pretty stunned at how many tourists were there...stopped for a bowl of kanom jeen noodles..went to pay and the lady pointed at a sign in english that said 45 baht..i pointed to the thai menu at the sign that said 30 baht...she pointed again at the english menu and said 45 baht..i asked her if she could read thai and pointed at the thai menu...she took my 30 baht...if you want cheap clothes, Bo Bae market will be half the price of Chatuchak, as will Pratunam...
just a word on shopping at chatuchak..while there are a few bargains to be had, for the most part i find prices there higher than elsewhere..i went yesterday and was pretty stunned at how many tourists were there...stopped for a bowl of kanom jeen noodles..went to pay and the lady pointed at a sign in english that said 45 baht..i pointed to the thai menu at the sign that said 30 baht...she pointed again at the english menu and said 45 baht..i asked her if she could read thai and pointed at the thai menu...she took my 30 baht...if you want cheap clothes, Bo Bae market will be half the price of Chatuchak, as will Pratunam...
Thanks for the info but I don't go there for clothing. Actually I don't buy any clothing in Thailand. I use USA's XL size so they are too small for me.
Thanks anyway.
Member #4285
10-18-09, 09:43
stopped for a bowl of kanom jeen noodles..went to pay and the lady pointed at a sign in english that said 45 baht..i pointed to the thai menu at the sign that said 30 baht...she pointed again at the english menu and said 45 baht..i asked her if she could read thai and pointed at the thai menu...she took my 30 baht..
Only way is to learn thai, but even then you will pay more, after reading stories here and in the expatforum. Sometimes Im thinking, how stupied do the thai think we farlangs are, or do they just dont care how low their scams are?
Im out with my lady for some fun, taking a cab back to her place and let her out. 45 bath on the meter in this moment. Then the crazy driver starts the meter again when he drives away with me to my place. Im saying, why you stop meter and start over agian? He like: "eeeh, you lady say it was okey". I say: "no, why would she do that, she just say I pay for the whole trip" (because I told her I would).
When we stop at my place the "new" meter says 55 bath. So I giving him 45 + 20 (55-35) = 65 bath. Then he starts shouting about 110 bath and a girl from street open the door and tries to mediate. Im calm but say that this is ridiculous, why start the meter again just for let my lady out of the car? Its stupied!
Some more bla bla bla but Im thinking better pay and walk away then end up on hospital or something. For me it was not about the money, it was about the bad try to scam me. But, before I get out the car I ask: do you think you will earn more in the long run with this behaviour? I dont think he understod me. No matter if he were good or bad in english.
if you want cheap clothes, Bo Bae market will be half the price of Chatuchak, as will Pratunam...
Oldian, after a Google search, I found Bo Bae. It says it is a wholesale market, and things have to be bought by the dozen or so. Is that in fact true? I don't need 12 pairs of shorts, or a dozen pairs of shoes.
Can goods be bought in quantites of 1 and 2 ?
thanks
1ball.
but Im thinking better pay and walk away then end up on hospital or something. For me it was not about the money, it was about the bad try to scam me.
Yah, this is usually the smartest choice. If you spend enough time in LOS, you're gonna get scammed, overcharged, etc. Consider it part of the experience. If you invest a significant amount of time here and begin to understand how things work and maybe learn some Thai, then these instances start to go away.
But in the end, after all that, it's still only all about 2 dollars...
Yah, this is usually the smartest choice. If you spend enough time in LOS, you're gonna get scammed, overcharged, etc. Consider it part of the experience. If you invest a significant amount of time here and begin to understand how things work and maybe learn some Thai, then these instances start to go away.
Member #4285
10-18-09, 14:00
But in the end, after all that, it's still only all about 2 dollars...
Sometimes its about the behavior and not about 50 cent, one or two or ten dollars? In this case he tried to scam me in a stupid way and even using my girl to get thru it. In another case I was waiting for my girl and talked with the taxidriver that was supposed to take us to the Siam towers from her place for 20 minutes. He even went looking for her when she was late. Normaly its like 60 bath, but this time he charged me 100 without meter. I did not care, it was a "scam" but I payed without saying noathing because he at least gave some service.
The more stupid the scam is, the less im willing to pay. If the scam is made with at least some little intelligence...
In this case, it was just plain stupid.
So, do you also scream and yell at cracks in the sidewalk for the potential harm they may do to you!?! Because there are probably about as many weasel taxi drivers as sidewalk cracks in BKK and neither will ever change (and it’s really a coin toss on which has more sense).
So enjoy your new found wealth (invest it wisely, but I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that) and be sure to post about further conquests over taxi and/or sidewalk cracks…
RJSSS212
Sometimes its about the behavior and not about 50 cent, one or two or ten dollars? In this case he tried to scam me in a stupid way and even using my girl to get thru it. In another case I was waiting for my girl and talked with the taxidriver that was supposed to take us to the Siam towers from her place for 20 minutes. He even went looking for her when she was late. Normaly its like 60 bath, but this time he charged me 100 without meter. I did not care, it was a "scam" but I payed without saying noathing because he at least gave some service.
The more stupid the scam is, the less im willing to pay. If the scam is made with at least some little intelligence...
In this case, it was just plain stupid.
Once I was charged for a extra ladydrink in a Nana bar. I mentioned this to the waitress and she came and said the bill was correct. The guy sitting next me asked me to complain to the manager and refuse to pay.
I told him I am on vacation and do not want to spoil my demeanor by
getting into a fight about few dollars. Looking back that is the best decision I made. When you are on vacation you are going to get scammed starting from taxi drivers, street vendors,bar people, restaurent people etc.
The best advice is enjoy your vacation. As far as I know there are all kinds of scams in any vacation destination you go and more so in poor countries.
Member #4285
10-18-09, 16:02
So, do you also scream and yell..
Haha, nice try :D
So far I have never screamed or yelled at anyone in Bangkok. Just talking calm. Or did you get the feeling I have done it?
One poster talked about the thai price and farang price, and I filled in with a taxi story from Bangkok. One from maybe.. 50 scams so far? This one was the most stupid of all (so far) in BKK and I wanted to share that one.
Now im heading to a MP, you can read about that later, or I can give you another taxistory via PM if that sounds better? ;)
Cheers!
Only if you sprinkle in a few ATM fee stories to really spice it up...
Haha, nice try :D
So far I have never screamed or yelled at anyone in Bangkok. Just talking calm. Or did you get the feeling I have done it?
One poster talked about the thai price and farang price, and I filled in with a taxi story from Bangkok. One from maybe.. 50 scams so far? This one was the most stupid of all (so far) in BKK and I wanted to share that one.
Now im heading to a MP, you can read about that later, or I can give you another taxistory via PM if that sounds better? ;)
Cheers!
Member #4285
10-18-09, 16:23
Only if you sprinkle in a few ATM fee stories to really spice it up...
If its a stupid fee or something els interesting with the machine, I can for sure put it in my report (or PM you), because I need to get to one before I go to the MP :D (if I now dont find a place that gives me what I want for 465 bath).
No, no PM! It would be unspeakable to deprive the forum of such treasure...
If its a stupid fee or something els interesting with the machine, I can for sure put it in my report (or PM you), because I need to get to one before I go to the MP :D (if I now dont find a place that gives me what I want for 465 bath).
I just wanted to report that last night I had an encounter with what must have been the hottest ATM on all of Sukhumvit. I spotted her from across the street and immediately headed over -- just as I came near, another man suddenly stepped in, approaching quickly and looking like he was ready to close the deal. Japanese too. Damn! But as chance would have it, he searched his pockets and I guess realized he wasn't as ready as he thought he was to consumate the deed. Must have left his card up in the hotel room. That was my chance. With confidence I casually stepped up to her. She looked me straight in the eye and smiled -- you know that look -- at first I didn't know if she spoke any English, and with my Thai it was going to be tough. Fears melted away as she said, in perfect English, on her screen: "Insert card". That I did. "Please type PIN number and press ENTER". I said ok darling, I think I will, as I placed my hand on her side and carressed her lovingly. "Please select type of account -- Savings, Checking, Credit, Current." Oh no, I thought, is it Checking or Current? What's Current? It's definitely not Savings. If I get this wrong, will she eat my card? What do I do? OK, relax. Don't lose your cool. A moment like this, just fake it. She'll never notice. "Current" I said. "Choose amount" she replied. Ah, phew, I'm in. I guess I don't need to tell you what happened next. Let's just say it was a completely fulfilling experience, and to think 2 hrs earlier I was sleeping on a plane. Man, I love Bangkok.
Now that's better! I felt the little head starting to stir. Nothing better than a good ATM story..... except of course a good free breakfast story...but thats it, I shot my load...
I just wanted to report that last night I had an encounter with what must have been the hottest ATM on all of Sukhumvit. IAh, phew, I'm in. I guess I don't need to tell you what happened next. Let's just say it was a completely fulfilling experience, and to think 2 hrs earlier I was sleeping on a plane. Man, I love Bangkok.
Redfield10
10-18-09, 22:04
I hope you realize just how many guys she's seen in the 24 hours prior to you seeing her!!! ;)
QUOTE=Wendella]I just wanted to report that last night I had an encounter with what must have been the hottest ATM on all of Sukhumvit. I spotted her from across the street and immediately headed over -- just as I came near, another man suddenly stepped in, approaching quickly and looking like he was ready to close the deal. Japanese too. Damn! But as chance would have it, he searched his pockets and I guess realized he wasn't as ready as he thought he was to consumate the deed. Must have left his card up in the hotel room. That was my chance. With confidence I casually stepped up to her. She looked me straight in the eye and smiled -- you know that look -- at first I didn't know if she spoke any English, and with my Thai it was going to be tough. Fears melted away as she said, in perfect English, on her screen: "Insert card". That I did. "Please type PIN number and press ENTER". I said ok darling, I think I will, as I placed my hand on her side and carressed her lovingly. "Please select type of account -- Savings, Checking, Credit, Current." Oh no, I thought, is it Checking or Current? What's Current? It's definitely not Savings. If I get this wrong, will she eat my card? What do I do? OK, relax. Don't lose your cool. A moment like this, just fake it. She'll never notice. "Current" I said. "Choose amount" she replied. Ah, phew, I'm in. I guess I don't need to tell you what happened next. Let's just say it was a completely fulfilling experience, and to think 2 hrs earlier I was sleeping on a plane. Man, I love Bangkok.[/QUOTE]
FreebieFan
10-19-09, 00:47
Stilnox is Zolpidem which is also known to others as Ambien depending where you are from.Funny story about this... I used to use this in Philippines, then one day, pharmacy said they were not allowed to sell it anymore.
I asked why and the pharmacist showed me a newspaper story.
Story went that some lazy actress who had too much Jollibee and too little self control had put on many pounds. Being lazy she didnt want to excercise.
So she took 4 Stilnox every night which put her to sleep for 16 hours a day. Sher did this for a month and lost 10 kgs or whatever.
She then publicised her new pain free way of losing weight and millions of housewives went looking for Stilnox. Sensing a potential liability/ overdose problem, the manufacturers stopped sending it to Phils for 6 months
Utopian2004
10-19-09, 01:04
I will be in Bangkok (and Pattaya) for a few days next week. wrt: the mongering I pretty much know what I'm doing (not my first trip), but I never seem to have great restaurant experiences.
So I am looking for Bangkok restaurant recommendations, specifically:
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share
Note: I most eat alone, reading a book, so places that accommodates solo-dining are preferred.
Thanks,
U2004
Member #4285
10-19-09, 01:41
no, no pm! it would be unspeakable to deprive the forum of such treasure...
alright, here it goes then:
sitting in my cab on my way to angels or what it's called on soi 26. after reading in this thread a very good report about were to find busty girls im excited to get to the place. earlier today (yeasterday) i first went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and looking for my girl, but she was busy or not there at all so i left. i did not ask because i dont know her name hm..
anyway, sitting in my taxi and my phone calls. it's my thailady asking whats up. well, thought it was all over, we kind of brooke up the day before. love in bangkok has some really swings.. dont you think? so as the man i am i cant say no when she want to meet. alright, a u-turn please taxidriver! pick her up at her place and she jumps in with her 16 y.o. niece that wants to join the fun my lady is up to. what the fun will be i have no idea in this moment but, yes, im fantasizing i have to admit that. so off we go and ends up in a disco on phetchaburi street (i think). wall to wall there is a mp called embassy. all the taxidrivers around bkk have these flyers of this place but i have never made it to this place. but now i know were it is at least :d
the disco, called the boss is not much to write home about. 300 bath each to get in, but you get a free drink wohaaa... my ladys idea were to get to another disco but the 16 y.o. niece would not make it in according to the driver so he took us to this place. about 10 persons in the giant place. maybe wrong day, i dont know. one or to freelancers but not more than that this night. im thinking, can i sneek in to the mp next to this place? of course i cant. new cab to patpong after a hour in the amazing disco for a pizza at pizza hut and then a drink in pink panther. then back home to their place to drop them off and now the clock is around 3 so for me its just to go to bed.
good atm as always that gave me some bath without fee and scam. but that i will write more about later.
now, ive been watching letterman for 2 hours on youtube. who dont love that mans humor huh?
goodnight :)
the boss: http://thebossnightclub.com/
NicFrenchy
10-19-09, 01:46
Then the crazy driver starts the meter again when he drives away with me to my place. Im saying, why you stop meter and start over agian? He like: "eeeh, you lady say it was okey". I say: "no, why would she do that, she just say I pay for the whole trip" (because I told her I would).
Oh lord.... you made several mistakes...
1. Don't let your girl talk to the taxi driver, you are paying so you negotiate
2. if you see he stops the meter and starts again, ask him to stop, pay him the 45thb adn take another taxi. YES, you will end up paying the 110thb in the end but the other 55thb won't go to this scam artist
3. Do Not argue with a taxi driver, this is the best way to get hurt. smile at the motherfucker, tell him you know the scam he tried to pull and give him half so you both walk away somehow not losers (even though you got fucked a little)
4. Asking the taxi if he wants to make his money like this? hahahahahahahahaha you think he gives a fuck? he will be telling all his buddies about the young dumbass farang he cheated. these guys have no conscience.
If a taxi does not start the meter: ask him to stop and get out
If a taxi smokes when in the car: ask him to stop and get out
If a taxi talks too much: ask him to stop and get out
NicFrenchy
10-19-09, 02:08
Once I was charged for a extra ladydrink in a Nana bar. I mentioned this to the waitress and she came and said the bill was correct. The guy sitting next me asked me to complain to the manager and refuse to pay.
I told him I am on vacation and do not want to spoil my demeanor by
getting into a fight about few dollars. Looking back that is the best decision I made. When you are on vacation you are going to get scammed starting from taxi drivers, street vendors,bar people, restaurent people etc.
The best advice is enjoy your vacation. As far as I know there are all kinds of scams in any vacation destination you go and more so in poor countries.
That has to be the stupidest thing I have read lately.... so you're suggesting to people that because they are coming to a poor country they are going to be scammed adn that it's not a big deal to take it up the ass without whining?
People, if you are in a bar, unless you know them, pay your drinks as they arrive! don't let it stack up. Also, be careful because girls also build up these tickets with them for their drinks and sometimes put them in your cup if you order them a lady drink. It's not fair but many punters are ok with it.
Just be careful, but if you see you are being scammed, smile and tell them you caught them, joke about it and they will let you go without fuss.
But don't be a pushover
NicFrenchy
10-19-09, 02:19
Anyway, sitting in my taxi and my phone calls. It's my thailady asking whats up. Well, thought it was all over, we kind of brooke up the day before. Love in Bangkok has some really swings.. dont you think? So as the man I am I cant say no when she want to meet. Alright, a U-turn please taxidriver! Pick her up at her place and she jumps in with her 16 y.o. niece that wants to join the fun my lady is up to.
Hahahahahah yeah, call me cynical but let me tell you how these lady think:
1. might not even have been her niece
2. they wanted to go out and turns out she just knew a sucker who would pay for it all
3. I strongly suggest you start to be a man in this relationship or you're going to be taken for a ride.... BIG time
Thai ladies can stay in relationships for years without giving out sex or even kissing! that's called a GIK. She sees you as her sugar daddy, the guy she can call if she needs to go out and all you will need in return is her company. As long as you are satisfied with it, it's ok but if you want to fuck her, I suggest you make your move soon! very soon before you fall hard on your forehead.
Welcome to Thailand
...
If a taxi does not start the meter: ask him to stop and get out
If a taxi smokes when in the car: ask him to stop and get out
If a taxi talks too much: ask him to stop and get out
Seems like you go to a lot of extra trouble just to make a point, Nic.
If a taxi does not start the meter: ask him to start it (get out if he refuses)
If he smokes: ask him to stop (get out if he refuses)
If he talks too much: don't respond (get out if he continues)
NicFrenchy
10-19-09, 05:05
Seems like you go to a lot of extra trouble just to make a point, Nic.
Not trouble, really.
I just don't forget who is the customer. As a customer, if something is not to my liking I have the right to stop and take my baht somewhere else.
One day I jumped in a taxi and before we got to 20 metres, I told him that the smoke smell made me dizzy (he was not smoking) but understood, stopped and let me get out.
Another day, the taxi was talking too much, I told him to be quiet but he continued asking questions... I asked him to stop, paid adn got out.
The Meter incident is obviously in the case where he refuses to put it on. and I have had taxi drivers telling me the meter was out of order. In that case I told them what I was ready to pay adn they had 2 choices: agree to it or stop. In both cases, he agreed to the amount I offered him for the ride.
I'm not going out of my way to prove a point, I am behaving like a customer
FreebieFan
10-19-09, 05:16
That has to be the stupidest thing I have read lately.... so you're suggesting to people that because they are coming to a poor country they are going to be scammed adn that it's not a big deal to take it up the ass without whining?
People, if you are in a bar, unless you know them, pay your drinks as they arrive! don't let it stack up. Also, be careful because girls also build up these tickets with them for their drinks and sometimes put them in your cup if you order them a lady drink. It's not fair but many punters are ok with it.
Just be careful, but if you see you are being scammed, smile and tell them you caught them, joke about it and they will let you go without fuss.
But don't be a pushoverWas in a Nana bar a while back. A small on one of the upper floors. Got charged for two drinks where clearly I only had the one bottle.
Strange girl was insisting. Reckoned she must be high on something as she was near apoplectic. I paid for the one drink and walked out the bar. Shes still shouting, and of course shouting in Thai.
I asked her how much she thinks I should be paying for the drink I didn't have. She shouts something like hundred baht. I find a Gnt 100 note, place it gently on floor then walk away. Highly wrong as I'm sure I could be beaten for placing Kings image on floor, but this gal was mad. Totally off her rocker.
...t this gal was mad. Totally off her rocker.
Yeah, this kind of shit happens now and then in Thailand.
One night, I wanted to use the toilet at the Bali Hai pier in Pattaya. The signs said 5 baht, and the air head girl behind the counter told me 5 baht. I handed her a 5 baht coin ... she said "no good, 5 baht." I looked at the coin again, which was now sitting on the counter. It surely was a 5 baht coin. I looked at her, and she said "5 baht, no good." "OK," I said. I picked up the coin, put it in my pocket, waived to her, said "bye bye," turned around and walked away muttering to myself --- WTF!!!
TIT
Oldian, after a Google search, I found Bo Bae. It says it is a wholesale market, and things have to be bought by the dozen or so. Is that in fact true? I don't need 12 pairs of shorts, or a dozen pairs of shoes.
Can goods be bought in quantites of 1 and 2 ?
thanks
1ball.
it is a wholesale market but i believe you can buy 1 or 2...take the canal boat from Pratunam (across from Central up near the corner) which goes directly to the Bo Bae pier, most convenient way to get there....
Only way is to learn thai, but even then you will pay more, after reading stories here and in the expatforum. Sometimes Im thinking, how stupied do the thai think we farlangs are, or do they just dont care how low their scams are?
Im out with my lady for some fun, taking a cab back to her place and let her out. 45 bath on the meter in this moment. Then the crazy driver starts the meter again when he drives away with me to my place. Im saying, why you stop meter and start over agian? He like: "eeeh, you lady say it was okey". I say: "no, why would she do that, she just say I pay for the whole trip" (because I told her I would).
When we stop at my place the "new" meter says 55 bath. So I giving him 45 + 20 (55-35) = 65 bath. Then he starts shouting about 110 bath and a girl from street open the door and tries to mediate. Im calm but say that this is ridiculous, why start the meter again just for let my lady out of the car? Its stupied!
Some more bla bla bla but Im thinking better pay and walk away then end up on hospital or something. For me it was not about the money, it was about the bad try to scam me. But, before I get out the car I ask: do you think you will earn more in the long run with this behaviour? I dont think he understod me. No matter if he were good or bad in english.
i think a lot of farangs dont take kindly to being scammed...but you are right, better to not end up in the hospital over something so small...but i dont know where the line is..i was once in Chiang Mai, taking a public songthaew to the bus station..i was with my Thai at the time gf..we arrived, i gave the driver 30 baht (price 15 per person)...he tells me 60 baht...i tell him in Thai that i live here and that it is 15 baht per person always. He tells me 60 baht, i repeat again that i live here and know the price...he then looks at me and says in english, "fuck you." i was kind of surprised, just kind of stared at him and wondered what had happened to Thailand...at that point just gave him the 30 baht and walked away into the bus station....with some Thais, when you tell them in Thai that you know the price, they will often react comically, knowing they got caught, and say something like "okay, farang that can speak or read Thai can have Thai price," but with others, they get angry..
...I'm not going out of my way to prove a point, I am behaving like a customer
OK, basically you do the same as me.
The smoking thing upsets me too. I thought there was a law against smoking in Pattaya bars, but its violated all the time. I hate sitting in a bar enjoying the show when a smoker lights up beside me and the smoke drifts right into my face. Extremely offensive.
(I feel a bit guilty saying that as I used to smoke many years ago and couldn't understand if others didn't like it)
Lover Boy #2
10-19-09, 09:56
it is a wholesale market but i believe you can buy 1 or 2...take the canal boat from Pratunam (across from Central up near the corner) which goes directly to the Bo Bae pier, most convenient way to get there....
You are correct....the vendors really want a real wholesale order.....but they will tack on a few THB and sell you whatever you want....even one item.
The trouble is half the time the Thai's such as this will think that they are not in effect scamming you, you are actually a super rich farang man earning more than 1000 US$ a day and so by doubling the price and asking for a dollar more its nothing. This is why you get the "fuck you" as he thinks you its like asking you for 1 cent more, not 1 dollar more.
This situation is due to Thai girls. Sadly in Thailand there is a structure in place where each and every girl has to try to outdo the other girl. She must have the better phone model, the better looking boyfriend, more money, more friends, richer parents, richer boyfriend etc.
Now this "culture" has been going on for many years, and many girls feed stories back to their village about how their boyfriend is richer than the other girls, how he sends 100, 000 baht to her every two weeks. And then another girl comes and wants to outdo this girl, so she tells everyone her boyfriend sends 120, 000 baht and so on.
The end result is that lots of Thai people think all farangs are earning millions of baht every month and so they think a few baht here or there is no problem for such super rich people.
Now, we are quite off topic when it comes to Bangkok reports, but suffice to say that scamming is not always as it seems, sometimes and indeed quite often they do actually think you are uber rich and 50 baht here or there matters not, you will not miss it the same as if you drop 20 satang on the floor.
But as I said, do not lose your temper, keep on smiling even when having the disagreement.
I always do my best to educate Thai's differently. I always tell them I am very poor, a real cheap charlie and earn nothing. They laugh, but also they never expect any extra tips.
Sadly a number of loud mouthed arrogant dumb ass tourists do come to Thailand and shout out about how rich they are trying to show off. This kind of behaviour sets the seen for people charging foreigners more. Cause they are all rich, so they think.
i think a lot of farangs dont take kindly to being scammed...but you are right, better to not end up in the hospital over something so small...but i dont know where the line is..i was once in Chiang Mai, taking a public songthaew to the bus station..i was with my Thai at the time gf..we arrived, i gave the driver 30 baht (price 15 per person)...he tells me 60 baht...i tell him in Thai that i live here and that it is 15 baht per person always. He tells me 60 baht, i repeat again that i live here and know the price...he then looks at me and says in english, "fuck you." i was kind of surprised, just kind of stared at him and wondered what had happened to Thailand...at that point just gave him the 30 baht and walked away into the bus station....with some Thais, when you tell them in Thai that you know the price, they will often react comically, knowing they got caught, and say something like "okay, farang that can speak or read Thai can have Thai price," but with others, they get angry..
I will be in Bangkok (and Pattaya) for a few days next week. wrt: the mongering I pretty much know what I'm doing (not my first trip), but I never seem to have great restaurant experiences.
So I am looking for Bangkok restaurant recommendations, specifically:
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share
Note: I most eat alone, reading a book, so places that accommodates solo-dining are preferred.
Thanks,
U2004This is my favorite Thai restaurant by a landslide. FANTASTIC food and a really interesting atmosphere. It is like going to a seafood market, picking out your life fish and/or shellfish and then getting to custom order its preparation.
It is sort of an experience as well as FANTASTIC food. My favorite is the baby clams in chili sauce.
It is on Soi 24 (next to the Emporium) so take the Phrom Pong BTS exit. It is walking distance from the BTS but it is a good 200-300 yards down. Keep walking and you can't miss the giant neon sign that hangs over the road.
And you will pass several very tempting massage parlors. Most of them seem to cater to the Japanese tourists so they may be very expensive.
He tells me 60 baht, i repeat again that i live here and know the price...he then looks at me and says in english, "fuck you." i was kind of surprised, just kind of stared at him and wondered what had happened to Thailand...
All the upper class thais keep getting richer and his only way of getting a quick money grab is to try and overcharge a foreigner. Being spoiled by other foreigners for so long and now he's finally getting the proper resistance from you, he's only angry at his pathetic existence. He has to take it out on someone. He is low and will always be low.
If he talks too much: don't respond (get out if he continues)
Getting on your mobile and pretending to be in conversation in english with a friend also works.
(I feel a bit guilty saying that as I used to smoke many years ago and couldn't understand if others didn't like it)Right. Seems what is happening now is that there are certain bars that allow smoking. It's irritating as hell, but I used to smoke heavily in the old days and now try to stay cool with it (sucks doesn't it?)
Bangkok farang bars example:
Soi Cowboy Bacarra Bar = smoking upstairs, no smoking downstairs.
NEP Mandarin = ditto
NEP Rainbow 1,3,4 no smoking, Rainbow 2 OK.
Things seem to be hashing themselves out this way all over.
I will be in Bangkok (and Pattaya) for a few days next week. wrt: the mongering I pretty much know what I'm doing (not my first trip), but I never seem to have great restaurant experiences.
So I am looking for Bangkok restaurant recommendations, specifically:
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share
Note: I most eat alone, reading a book, so places that accommodates solo-dining are preferred.
Thanks,
U2004I think part of the pleasure of going to foreign countries is eating the local food, so I rarely go to smart restaurants. I usually eat at local cafes or take street food. For example I enjoy eating at the cafe opposite the BierGarden on Soi 7, and the advantage is that there are plenty of working girls who will happily share their table with you. Sometimes I feel guilty about chatting to a girl in the BierGarden if I have no intention of taking her out, but in the cafe they are slightly off duty. Catch an eye, offer them a drink, and they'll invite you to share a table. But beware, last time I was persuaded very much against my better judgement to take one lady back for an afternoon massage :).
My other regular cafe is on the corner of Soi 3 - about as cheap and cheerful as you can get! Actually I find my appetite disappears for a few days after arriving in a hot climate, so I'm usually down to one meal per day with plenty of fruit etc bought on the street.
Sometimes I feel guilty about chatting to a girl in the BierGarden if I have no intention of taking her out, but in the cafe they are slightly off duty. Catch an eye, offer them a drink, and they'll invite you to share a table.
Be careful though. Even if you arrive at the end of their meal, you might be asked to pick up their bill. ;)
Satrai2000
10-19-09, 20:57
Not sure I agree with this, was in BKK at Nana and Soi Cowboy the other day. I am Asian and understand Japanese. I overheard several conversations with Japanese groups. Seems they flash baht to get the best girls, then negotiate long-term stays for a lower amount, but in the end do not stay with the BG for more than 1-2 days. Not sure if this is true, just what I overheard a couple of older guys telling younger guys in Rainbow and Rawhide.
Initially several girls approached me in Japanese, my response: "kortot, pom mai phoot yeppun, khun phoot engrish" Probably got the spelling wrong; however basically am saying I do not speak Japanese and do you speak English? Interestingly several girls asked me to negotiate rates for them. Another story for another time.
Hope you get a chance to visit Afterschool, had a wild time in the Bad Boys corner.
HpA question concerning the Japanese monger.
Japan has so many beautiful stunning gals and many of them are available for close encounters of the sexy kind.
So I don't really understand when I see so many Yippon-bros walking hand in hand with a Thai gal.
Maybe some member can tell what the p4p-scene in Japan lacks. Or is it just the price what drives them to Thailand?
NicFrenchy
10-20-09, 01:19
This is my favorite Thai restaurant by a landslide.
Yes, perfect for tourists.
NicFrenchy
10-20-09, 01:22
Maybe some member can tell what the p4p-scene in Japan lacks. Or is it just the price what drives them to Thailand?
A lot of these are here on short business trips, and why wouldn't they fuck an exotic (for them) girl?
Member #3428
10-20-09, 01:28
Right. Seems what is happening now is that there are certain bars that allow smoking. It's irritating as hell, but I used to smoke heavily in the old days and now try to stay cool with it (sucks doesn't it?)
Bangkok farang bars example:
Soi Cowboy Bacarra Bar = smoking upstairs, no smoking downstairs.
NEP Mandarin = ditto
NEP Rainbow 1,3,4 no smoking, Rainbow 2 OK.
Things seem to be hashing themselves out this way all over.
Another ex smoker.... Office Bar I can not go to on Soi 33 due to the large qty of smoke. I also know some hot ladies with great talent that have left working there due to the qty of smoke in the place.
Giving some bars credit on Soi 33 (without name dropping :D ) many of the bars have stayed smoke free even if the owners smoke. I find it amusing the owners having to sit their arse outside of their own places to light up.
Personally I can still stand next to a smoker and not be offended by it, when I am in a bar full of smoke and smokers or hotel rooms that people had smoked in, IE stale smoke, I about throw up. That was the main reason I avoided NEP in the past the closed spaces and large qty of smoke before.
Member #3428
10-20-09, 01:32
Maybe some member can tell what the p4p-scene in Japan lacks. Or is it just the price what drives them to Thailand?
I found that the P4P scene in Japan, depending where you go, to be completely devoid of action. More Nigerian then Japanese available to foreigners in some areas. Atleast where I've been.
Further, if you nail your own nationality all day long every day... don't you want some variety? Why not circle the Asian Rim and taste the various ladies....
I'd hate to eat one type of girl / food for the rest of my life.
Right. Seems what is happening now is that there are certain bars that allow smoking...
I'm at one of my favorite go-go bars last night. There are large red "NO SMOKING" signs everywhere ... the guy next to me pulls out a cigarette and lights up ... a waitress puts an ashtray in front of him ... the smoke wafts into my face ... I'm gagging.
Laws are meant to be broken in the LOS.
Went to the Bier Garden on Soi 7 last night.
Not sure if it is because it was a slow weeknight or if the number of mongering tourists is down, but I was offered several ST for less than 1,000 baht. The working girls wanted to do some business last night.
The beauty of the Bier Garden is the low price and zero bar fines.
There are also tons of girls standing on Sukhumvit too in the same area. The quality appeared much less than in the Bier Garden though.
Tell me if this observation is different than your experiences. I believe the most beautiful girls are found in Soi Cowboy. Tilac, Bacarra, and Sharks have some spectacularly beautiful girls. Expensive...but beautiful.
...
Giving some bars credit on Soi 33 (without name dropping :D ) many of the bars have stayed smoke free even if the owners smoke. I find it amusing the owners having to sit their arse outside of their own places to light up.
...
Are you by chance talking about Livingstone's Lodge Sports Lounge :) ?
Yep, no smoking in our bar since the law was in place 1.5 years ago. And I am surprised, that so many bars still allow smoking inside, here in Soi 33.
Where is the problem to walk 10 m and smoke outside the bar, even having a chat with other smokers around there?
Giotto
Member #3428
10-20-09, 04:44
Are you by chance talking about Livingstone's Lodge Sports Lounge :) ?
Yep, no smoking in our bar since the law was in place 1.5 years ago. And I am surprised, that so many bars still allow smoking inside, here in Soi 33.
Where is the problem to walk 10 m and smoke outside the bar, even having a chat with other smokers around there?
Giotto
Why would I be talking about Livingstone's :D
That might get me accused of name dropping or marketing or such.....
It is so nice to walk into a nice air con bar with a cool towel and free wifi and nice ladies without being blasted by smoke...
This is my favorite Thai restaurant by a landslide.Holy crispy Thai catfish Minuteman! You ARE kidding, right? I mean, sure, it's great for entertaining first timers here but your favorite? Yowzers, we gotta talk. :D
The guy sitting next me asked me to complain to the manager and refuse to pay.
That's just what you should have done. It's not a high stress kind of thing. You don't have to get on your high horse to "refuse". Just decline to pay, being reasonable, and not drunk. I've never had much of a hassle.
A question concerning the Japanese monger.
Japan has so many beautiful stunning gals and many of them are available for close encounters of the sexy kind.
So I don't really understand when I see so many Yippon-bros walking hand in hand with a Thai gal.
Maybe some member can tell what the p4p-scene in Japan lacks. Or is it just the price what drives them to Thailand?Keep in mind I do not live in Japan; however, think it is the price and the anonymity. Most of the Japanese I see in BKK are salarymen, married and have to be home at night. Doing business in BKK you can establish an instant GF exepreriance for the days you are in BKK, somthing that is not possible with the P4P ladies in Japan (unless you are willing to take them out of country on a long vacation).
Hp
A question concerning the Japanese monger.
Japan has so many beautiful stunning gals and many of them are available for close encounters of the sexy kind.
So I don't really understand when I see so many Yippon-bros walking hand in hand with a Thai gal.
Maybe some member can tell what the p4p-scene in Japan lacks. Or is it just the price what drives them to Thailand?One more thought, the bars in soi 33 are similar to hostess bars in Japan, except without the high sticker shock. I also know of several yings at LL specializing in yeppun, oops hope I don't get blasted for the advertisement to the yeppun brothers out there, ha!
Hp
The trouble is half the time the Thai's such as this will think that they are not in effect scamming you, you are actually a super rich farang man earning more than 1000 US$ a day and so by doubling the price and asking for a dollar more its nothing. This is why you get the "fuck you" as he thinks you its like asking you for 1 cent more, not 1 dollar more.
This situation is due to Thai girls. Sadly in Thailand there is a structure in place where each and every girl has to try to outdo the other girl. She must have the better phone model, the better looking boyfriend, more money, more friends, richer parents, richer boyfriend etc.
Now this "culture" has been going on for many years, and many girls feed stories back to their village about how their boyfriend is richer than the other girls, how he sends 100, 000 baht to her every two weeks. And then another girl comes and wants to outdo this girl, so she tells everyone her boyfriend sends 120, 000 baht and so on.
The end result is that lots of Thai people think all farangs are earning millions of baht every month and so they think a few baht here or there is no problem for such super rich people.
Now, we are quite off topic when it comes to Bangkok reports, but suffice to say that scamming is not always as it seems, sometimes and indeed quite often they do actually think you are uber rich and 50 baht here or there matters not, you will not miss it the same as if you drop 20 satang on the floor.
But as I said, do not lose your temper, keep on smiling even when having the disagreement.
I always do my best to educate Thai's differently. I always tell them I am very poor, a real cheap charlie and earn nothing. They laugh, but also they never expect any extra tips.
Sadly a number of loud mouthed arrogant dumb ass tourists do come to Thailand and shout out about how rich they are trying to show off. This kind of behaviour sets the seen for people charging foreigners more. Cause they are all rich, so they think.
It's funny though how some get it while others dont, and how some can be good natured about it all while others aren't....my ex gf's family probably had a few expectations when she brought me home to Isaan the first few times, after all, around them are plenty of Thai women whose farang hubbies have bought them houses and made them queen of the village, but once they found out that i had little interest in that, and that i could sit in the backyard with them and drink whiskey and enjoy mor lam, they basically treated me as an equal with no further expectations. Once when i went to Samui, a noodle vendor told me 50 baht for a bowl of noodles on the beach. When i remarked in Thai that she must be the most expensive vendor in the kingdom, she laughed and said, "okay, farang that can speak thai 25 baht," and i became a regular customer for the next few weeks, with her joking with all her friends about me every day...and then there are the angry ones, who just cheat and see you as an ATM..
Holy crispy Thai catfish Minuteman! You ARE kidding, right? I mean, sure, it's great for entertaining first timers here but your favorite? Yowzers, we gotta talk. :DYes, that is where I take my visiting friends. It is very unique, entertaining, and great food. Expensive, but I think it is a great place to take out of town guests.
Let me ask you:
1. Where do you take your foreign friends when they come to visit?
2. What are your favorite restaurants when you go out by yourself or with a couple of your local pals?
NicFrenchy
10-20-09, 11:42
they basically treated me as an equal with no further expectations.
Where is OTH... Where is OTH..... got he would have jumped at this.
treat you as equal you say? think again.
...I could sit in the backyard with them and drink whiskey and enjoy mor lam, they basically treated me as an equal...You were always delusional or is this something new? :D
treat you as equal you say? think again.
It's better that he lives in his fantasy world. Ignorance is bliss. The truth is ugly!
That's his reality. They're not soaking him so where's the harm?
And if Brad Pitt didn't have my looks he'd be penniless and alone today...
Where is OTH... Where is OTH..... got he would have jumped at this.
treat you as equal you say? think again.
BKK Dreaming
10-20-09, 14:04
I must say I do not want to be taken as an equal to a bunch of drunken Thais ,
Maybe Thais look down on us because we are not " the chosen people" like they are , But I am sure they would love to have some of the goodies we have and an easier life,
I am happy NOT to be Thai, and have no reason to turn "native" , live in village and be a sugar daddy !
BK
Where is OTH... Where is OTH..... got he would have jumped at this.OTH? Who needs OTH... we now have TEH PRO to educate us re: LOS. Muahaha :(
And its this kind of comment that shows how dumb ass stupid some people are.
Oldian made a perfectly reasonable comment about some people he knows treating his as equal.
Who the hell is anyone on here to judge those people without even knowing who they are ?
Yes the "dumb ass have no clue pent up frustrated angry "Thai expert" " who deems every Thai is identical in every way and can smear them all with the same brush.
Thats why OTH was so frustrated as he could never "get it". He had to insist that every Thai was the same and there could never be a happy farang.
Enjoy your time Oldian, and ignore the dumb comments.
Where is OTH... Where is OTH..... got he would have jumped at this.
treat you as equal you say? think again.
Suntangh R
10-20-09, 16:58
Where is OTH... Where is OTH..... got he would have jumped at this.
treat you as equal you say? think again.At the risk of sounding patronizing, I would like to say that knowing the customs,traditions and the culture of a place where you have a prolonged stay is fine. Widens your horizons. But....
1) Dont suck up to them by bowing lower than them in greeting, showing a big grin, and adopting a genuflecting attitude.
2) Maintain your distance and a slight lift of the chin.
3) Trying to be too pally may impress the lower rung, but briefly.
4) I know something about the East, not trying to sound Mr Know All - they will despise you if you try to be one of them or be self effacing - the old "British ruler" attitude makes them uncertain. A slight snobbish countenance helps.
5) Smile, but dont roar with laughter, shake a hand but avoid a hug, ..
LittleBigMan
10-20-09, 23:44
The trouble is half the time the Thai's such as this will think that they are not in effect scamming you, you are actually a super rich farang man earning more than 1000 US$ a day and so by doubling the price and asking for a dollar more its nothing. This is why you get the "fuck you" as he thinks you its like asking you for 1 cent more, not 1 dollar more.
This situation is due to Thai girls. Sadly in Thailand there is a structure in place where each and every girl has to try to outdo the other girl. She must have the better phone model, the better looking boyfriend, more money, more friends, richer parents, richer boyfriend etc.
Now this "culture" has been going on for many years, and many girls feed stories back to their village about how their boyfriend is richer than the other girls, how he sends 100, 000 baht to her every two weeks. And then another girl comes and wants to outdo this girl, so she tells everyone her boyfriend sends 120, 000 baht and so on.
The end result is that lots of Thai people think all farangs are earning millions of baht every month and so they think a few baht here or there is no problem for such super rich people.
Now, we are quite off topic when it comes to Bangkok reports, but suffice to say that scamming is not always as it seems, sometimes and indeed quite often they do actually think you are uber rich and 50 baht here or there matters not, you will not miss it the same as if you drop 20 satang on the floor.
But as I said, do not lose your temper, keep on smiling even when having the disagreement.
I always do my best to educate Thai's differently. I always tell them I am very poor, a real cheap charlie and earn nothing. They laugh, but also they never expect any extra tips.
Sadly a number of loud mouthed arrogant dumb ass tourists do come to Thailand and shout out about how rich they are trying to show off. This kind of behaviour sets the seen for people charging foreigners more. Cause they are all rich, so they think.
The Pro,
See this is a very good report, and I understand every word because I have been there and seen it happen right in front of my eyes!
See, as you noted your report really belongs in the Living in Thailand or Opinions which are both located in the Far off horizon called the Expat Forum! but it would be right of me to come out and say it since as you can see for yourself no one can stay on track... and we can't always practice what we preach so no more talk about starting new thread O.K.
LBM
LittleBigMan
10-20-09, 23:57
And its this kind of comment that shows how dumb ass stupid some people are.
Oldian made a perfectly reasonable comment about some people he knows treating his as equal.
Who the hell is anyone on here to judge those people without even knowing who they are ?
Yes the "dumb ass have no clue pent up frustrated angry "Thai expert" " who deems every Thai is identical in every way and can smear them all with the same brush.
Thats why OTH was so frustrated as he could never "get it". He had to insist that every Thai was the same and there could never be a happy farang.
Enjoy your time Oldian, and ignore the dumb comments.
The Pro,
In regards to your comments about OTH, See we all judge people without knowing them just like you judge OTH without knowing him!
See, you did the same thing with Giotto lodge, you painted his place with your opinions with a smear with the same brush!
OTH, had his own opinions which he experience and might have been a unhappy Farang but there were happy Farangs that insisted that OTH must have the same view and got him booted off this site.
It hard practice what we preach! Not a personal attack but sometimes we sound more alike than we would like to admit!
LBM
LittleBigMan
10-21-09, 00:03
A question concerning the Japanese monger.
Japan has so many beautiful stunning gals and many of them are available for close encounters of the sexy kind.
So I don't really understand when I see so many Yippon-bros walking hand in hand with a Thai gal.
Maybe some member can tell what the p4p-scene in Japan lacks. Or is it just the price what drives them to Thailand?
Satrai2000,
See its this simple! Three are beautiful women everywhere in the world and no matter what your race is its the same everywhere you go not just in Japan! When it comes to women the little head does all the thinking and race has no bearing!
Second, its the cost! In Japan a Beautiful women is going to cost you a arm and a leg and thats the same in any other country! That's why we come to Thailand because it's less expensive and we are Handsome man!
LBM
All,
It's my first post after reading through the threads for a good few months. So please don't flame me if I posted this in the wrong place.
I am spending 1 month in Thailand (all December). Bangkok, Phuket and Chiang Mai or Koh Samui. I am Canadian Asian and trying to get as much sun as possible!
I prefer picking a girl and keeping her for about a week. If she's very good then I keep her longer, but that has rarely happened. I like seriously hot girls (tall, skinny, big breasts and caucasian features) who offer the full GFE experience. Things have been a bit hit and miss with my selections.
I would really appreciate any recommendations. I promise to reciprocate with some reviews and pics.
Hello,
My experience during a short stay in Bangkok last week:
Stayed at a 4 star hotel at soi 19 for a day later shifted to a 700 bhat hotel at soi 8.
Visited Tulip, Mango and Akane Fashion
Tulip: Excellent standard of service but below average girls didn't find anything to my liking so left early.
Mango: Good service way better quality girls than Tulip
Akane Fashion: Not my cup of tea as no FS is provided.
Went to Nana entertainment went up the escalator and got into the first bar on the left and to my surprise found some nice lookin girls there!
Freelancers: Beer garden is a lucrative hunting ground. Rule of thumb do not handout your mobile number as Thai chicks tend to be really clingy!
Cheers!
Satrai2000,
See its this simple! Three are beautiful women everywhere in the world and no matter what your race is its the same everywhere you go not just in Japan! When it comes to women the little head does all the thinking and race has no bearing!
Second, its the cost! In Japan a Beautiful women is going to cost you a arm and a leg and thats the same in any other country! That's why we come to Thailand because it's less expensive and we are Handsome man!
LBMAgree, when in other Asian countries, the lady drinks were the same price as the barfine in Nana or Cowboy.
Thailand is a bargain, and a pompoui pu chai is a handsome pu chai :)
SmartEuropean
10-21-09, 08:26
I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area. Because then I waste too much time to go and see the town or enjoy other past times. So I got a room near Grand Palais and it was nice for my tourist goals. But terribly far and uncomfortable for the honey. So I just focused on tourism which, for the first time in Bkk, is not that bad. I went to Patpong once and saw something nice. But, once again, the ST was a must. Since I was at at least 40 minutes by taxi from my room it was impossible and, as I already said, I do not like to use bar rooms. And I went to Tulip once as well. My goodness: just three not young, not pretty not hot ladies. So I left the place and the idea on having some honey in this first time in Bkk of mine.
All,
It's my first post after reading through the threads for a good few months. So please don't flame me if I posted this in the wrong place.
I am spending 1 month in Thailand (all December). Bangkok, Phuket and Chiang Mai or Koh Samui. I am Canadian Asian and trying to get as much sun as possible!
I prefer picking a girl and keeping her for about a week. If she's very good then I keep her longer, but that has rarely happened. I like seriously hot girls (tall, skinny, big breasts and caucasian features) who offer the full GFE experience. Things have been a bit hit and miss with my selections.
I would really appreciate any recommendations. I promise to reciprocate with some reviews and pics.
I would really be cautious to keep one for one week and eventually extend
try one for one day, eventually extend for +1 or +2 days, THEN decide whether venture for a week or more.
After one or two days you might already get good or bad vibes.
If you book her for a week since day #1 and get soon the bad vibes what are you going to do?
O am not saying you cannot bump into a great experience, but usually any nice fish after a day or two starts to stink....
Member #3428
10-21-09, 09:59
I am spending 1 month in Thailand (all December). Bangkok, Phuket and Chiang Mai or Koh Samui. I am Canadian Asian and trying to get as much sun as possible!
I prefer picking a girl and keeping her for about a week. If she's very good then I keep her longer, but that has rarely happened. I like seriously hot girls (tall, skinny, big breasts and caucasian features) who offer the full GFE experience. Things have been a bit hit and miss with my selections.
I would really appreciate any recommendations. I promise to reciprocate with some reviews and pics.
Chiang Mai and Sun in December? Ok since you are from Canada maybe it will be warm but for me it is terribly cold. Girls are more round (to me) and more white skinned. They do have some HOT looking girls from Chiang Mai but you'll find them working in soapies in BKK :) Seems like you'd like chiang Mai girls.
Phuket... is OK but you can find other places around Phuket for better beaches especially if you have your own girl already.
BKK everyone should stop there, the airport is near there :)
Koh Samuai... touristy... just touristy... Do not like that side of the water either. Find better beaches over north and south of Phuket.
I really would caution getting a girl for an extended stay... Take a few girls over a few days... and besides how much you pay a girl, do you really think you'll walk in and take a top looking girl out for a few weeks and she will give you top GFE and just pick up and leave with you all over Thai? You think all Top Hot Looking girls will just be glad to give up their lives for a couple of weeks and magically give you GFE that simple huh?
Maybe that is why you are hit and miss...
You were always delusional or is this something new? :D
nothing to do with delusion...after the first few visits they knew exactly where i stood...they weren't going to be getting rich, they enjoyed the fact that we could have intelligent conversations regardless of nationality, class, income or anything else...and it helped that their daughter seemed happy and they weren't greedy..they all had jobs, nobody was lazy , nobody needed a handout.
The Pro,
In regards to your comments about OTH, See we all judge people without knowing them just like you judge OTH without knowing him!
See, you did the same thing with Giotto lodge, you painted his place with your opinions with a smear with the same brush!
OTH, had his own opinions which he experience and might have been a unhappy Farang but there were happy Farangs that insisted that OTH must have the same view and got him booted off this site.
It hard practice what we preach! Not a personal attack but sometimes we sound more alike than we would like to admit!
LBM
I would agree...it all depends what circles you run around in...yes, if you spend a lot of time in the bar scene, damn straight that there are huge numbers of ladies that can and will take you to the cleaners and whose families see farangs for one thing only...and there are also other segments of Thai society where that is the farthest thing from the truth..just like anywhere in the world, this country is full of diverse realities, and while the stereotypes are useful, they are often overused and certainly not applicable in every situation..as long as you are having fun, dont worry about what people are saying, gossip is just a form of entertainment.
...nobody needed a handout.Study how shrimp paste is fermented. Farangs aren't much different.
There is so much shit involved here I can't even begin to go into it.
Oldian! Make sure you have your hat, boots, & spurs with you when you leave Dodge City. If you don't, now it's your own fault. Not much else to say.
And its this kind of comment that shows how dumb ass stupid some people are.
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Who the hell is anyone on here to judge those people without even knowing who they are ?
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The Pro,
I don't want to talk about dumb ass stupid people ... but in regards of judging - you do. Really funny that you don't realize the contradictions in your own posts (I love this word "contradiction", The Traveler, I hope you are good).
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This situation is due to Thai girls. Sadly in Thailand there is a structure in place where each and every girl has to try to outdo the other girl. She must have the better phone model, the better looking boyfriend, more money, more friends, richer parents, richer boyfriend etc.
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This may be true for some bar girls in some specific bars, as it is true for some European girls in some European companies / schools / universities. --- "Each and every girl " - Bullshit! Stupid generalization.
If we talk about bar girls: Many of them are so close to poverty - the main drive / motivation for them is to make enough money to take care of their family, parents, kids. Some, but only very few of them are so successful that they lose it ... but most of them are not. Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all.
Giotto
Giotto,
Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?
The Pro,If we talk about bar girls: Many of them are so close to poverty - the main drive / motivation for them is to make enough money to take care of their family, parents, kids. Some, but only very few of them are so successful that they lose it ... but most of them are not. Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all. Giotto
Giotto,
Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?Rjsss212,
None of the girls have customers every day.
Some of the girls have customers MANY days - and they make a lot of money. They most likely change, but they have so much more money than the others that they immediately leave the "team" . Of course the other girls are jealous, too - because they are not that successful.
Those girls - on the other hand - do not necessarily live with room mates ... many of them have a sponsor in the background, and a condo somewhere.
We were talking about "Thai structures" here. Another "structure", a real one, not "The Pro Nonsense" is, that if a group of Thai people goes out for dinner / disco that the one who is considered to be the richest pays. Now - a successful girl pays ... for all friends ... many times ... guess, what she learns after a while.
I don't want to generalize anything - but some of those reports written before and giving the impression that they contain knowledge about Thai "structures" are simply - nonsense!
Giotto
They most likely change, but they have so much more money than the others that they immediately leave the "team" . Of course the other girls are jealous, too - because they are not that successful.
What do you mean by "leave the team"?
LittleBigMan
10-21-09, 21:14
What do you mean by "leave the team"?
Same as " Taking one for the Team "
LBM
Member #3428
10-21-09, 21:57
Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all.
Only if you live there, or you bring them to your home, or if you get them OUT of the bars / out of BKK or Pat's or wherever you pull them from.
Member #3428
10-21-09, 22:10
Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?
The girls I know or have known, some make good money and are smart businesswomen and make cash. Others barely make 20 K a month. Rent, food, clothes, saloon, taxi, etc... and sending 10 K home a month to feed mom, papa, brothers, sisters, cousins, and their own children does not make them rich.
Yes they have rooms with items Farang's buy for them (radio, computer, tv, etc...) but cash... cash is short supply. Especially now in the bad economy. But once a girl is getting 20 K a month from a guy or 10 K a month, her needs (wants) do go up. It is only natural.
Other girls in Pat's are making on a few K baht and think 5 K is huge money. Some girls are lucky to get two / three customers a month. Other girls can get as many customers per week they want. Other girls are really honestly studying so while they might be hot they only go Short Time or only few times or only work two nights a week so do not get BF'd a lot.
Some girls have thai BF's in the back ground and only work part time to send home 5-10K a month and that is all they need or want.
But yes you are right, there are some top earners but very few overall. A top MP girl has her family live with her in BKK (sisters and brothers) and they go to university while she supports family at home. Her bank account is not as high as you would think and she doesn't waste it.
Average salary in BKK for uneducated people is what, 7,000 a month (I don't know I think it is around here). Usually you have entire families trying to work to pullin a couple of K a month. The girls that work bar, usually are the ONLY ones working in the family. Mama is watching children at home, sisters / brothers in school etc...
Personally, I don't care if they are using their body to separate cash from farangs, it usually lasts a few minutes, maybe two times, and a few times a month, doesn't make them less of a human being to me but they surely are not rich.
AND... add in age factor... you'll be better off finding a girl who is 28 or older who is really interested in being a good girl for one guy. Younger then that... we'll we've all nailed the young girls with "boy friends" even "husbands" but I've seen some girls old by bar standards make some great GF's and they've paid off the house, farm, and the sisters and brothers are done with college now etc....
Member #3428
10-21-09, 22:16
What do you mean by "leave the team"?
Leave the team to me means... a girl gets a guy to sponsor her, then she acts superior to the other working girls like she is better and higher class then them. She has a BF who is sending her money and supporting her so she is not need to talk to hang out or eat street food with the "working" girls.
She no longer fits into the "bar family" the other girls are jealous of course as they all want sponsorships or BF's that throw cash at them and they wait and talk and back stab the girl and wait for the BF to leave her and dump her for someone else.
Member #3428
10-21-09, 22:26
Rule of thumb do not handout your mobile number as Thai chicks tend to be really clingy!
WHY? This is absolutely terrible advice.
GET mobile numbers and usually give then your number or they don't want to give up their number. Plus if you don't give them your number to put in their phone then you ring them up as an unknown person which they might not answer. If you work there get a monger phone number, a dual sim phone or whatever. The #1 most important rule is to keep contacts.
If the bars close or there is funeral or whatever then what are you going to do wank off? If you got numbers then use them. If it is 2 am and you have a girl bolt on you and you don't have numbers what are you going to do, wank off? You want to arrange a before work romp and save the bar fine or an after work romp to save the bar fines or whatever then how are you going to do that if you don't exchange numbers?
There is such a thing as putting your mobile on silent or vibrate when you are with a girl, and if you are with a girl let her know you have other girls calling you as you have other options that if she pulls the "I am so beautiful and the best you are going to get" then she knows you got options and can bail on her anytime you want.
Plus it's a financial transaction for 98% of the girls / guys here. WHO cares if you get a ring in the middle of being with a another girl? And if it is not just a financial transaction then the girl you are with better know you are a butterfly or go to the two phone system.
And if you don't like Clingy... then do not go to Philippines. They are the most obsessive girls out there. I even had a girl move to Tampa Florida because that is where I told her I was from (unfortunately that is where my FAMILY lives in the winter and that is where my ticket originated from that visit) and yes she did track down my mom and dad. :D Now that was a phone call with my mom I will never forget......
Member #3428
10-21-09, 22:46
I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area.
I read both your reports and 1) you are a rookie and have no idea on what to do or not to do, 2) you did not do proper RTFF or you would not have made a lot of these mistakes.
Like going to any mongering country / city for a first time or first few times it takes a while to get to understand the locations and it is always best if you have a monger who is experienced with you. Now most of us did not or do not have the choice, so the best option was to sit and RTFF for about a month or two, ask polite questions ahead of time, PM folks for help (many posters here are very helpful and not jack asses like myself). And even long time posters / veterans learn new items every day from the reports of others.
In other words without being obsessive, spend time like CSUN213 and many others do and RTFF before you venture into others back yards and then say it was disappointing because of your lack of your success.
Traveler1234
10-21-09, 23:17
I read both your reports and 1) you are a rookie and have no idea on what to do or not to do, 2) you did not do proper RTFF or you would not have made a lot of these mistakes.
In other words without being obsessive, spend time like CSUN213 and many others do and RTFF before you venture into others back yards and then say it was disappointing because of your lack of your success.
That is what a 'SmartAss' would do :D
Member #3428
10-21-09, 23:31
That is what a 'SmartAss' would do :D
Glad I proved my point in a nice fashion.... :D Or my gosh there might be a new survey put out by the Administrator about me (which they don't do anything about anyways).
I was originally thinking something along the lines like
SmartEuropean.... ummmmmm Okie Dokie..... yeah right......
Or
SmartEuropean = Biggest Contradiction I've ever heard....
Now that would have been Smart Ass if I posted something like that.
This is the same guy who posted this in the PI section a month ago:
The point is that I am planning to marry a babe met in a bar in Angeles. And my question is: is that a good idea or not? Before replying, please, read till the bottom.
Seriously SE Patpong ????? That's the best advice someone gave you in BKK? Ten minutes RTFF and you could have gotten much better advice then Patpong so it only proves SE spent -0- time reading anything on the Forum that folks posted on GOOD EXPERIENCES.
Complain about Tulip???? Hell they ain't beauty queens but they can screw great and if you don't like their face put their face in a pillow and take them from behind if you are that bothered.... It's well documented which girls are average looking and it's well documented that Tulip is not where you go for model quality girls. You go there to screw and get a top notch screw. Very simple. So wow!!!! News Flash that SE saw three ugly girls at Tulip.
My point is SE, if you, and for all the other newbies out there, would have spent some time reading the forum and PM'd some guys or such many guys on this board would have gone out of their way to respond to you and give you advice to have made your trips to both Pattaya and BKK much more enjoyable.
Some people waste an expensive holiday, airfare, hotel, etc... because they didn't spend a few minutes to read the forum? Makes no sense but I guess god gave some people more money then common sense.
And Trav1234 Where the Hell are my PGA Shirts :D :D
Because its very difficult for the girls to get their pumped up bar fines paid at some places, and get people to give them big fat tips, if people appreciate just how much money these girls make.
Therefore its far easier to portray them with BS comments about being "just above the poverty line".
The majority of girls working in Bangkok for example are nowhere near the poverty line, they just know its very easy to open their legs and get easy cash without any consequences.
But hey, let the BS artists portray it as they wish, it might make you feel sorry for the girls and pay them more, and then the girls are happy to stay in work and the owners have less hassle retaining the girls - easy life for all.
Giotto,
Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?
Giotto,
Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?
I sometimes liken them to (before financial advisers came along) young professional sports players, kid who comes from poverty/no education and all of the sudden is a millionaire with no idea of how to save money. You will find all kinds though. I know one girl here who writes down every single baht she spends, has financed cancer treatments for her mother, and put a wad away towards buying a farm and retiring. I know another who has been working Soi Cowboy for two years yet has no house, no car (nor does anyone in her family) and absolutely no savings. And I know yet another 22 year old who could probably earn 5000+ a day if she wanted to, and what does she do with her talents? Gives every last baht to her young Thai bf who spends it all on drinking, gambling, and ladies. When you are young and you think that money grows on trees, it is easy to use it like toilet paper.
NicFrenchy
10-22-09, 03:54
Personally, I don't care if they are using their body to separate cash from farangs, it usually lasts a few minutes, maybe two times, and a few times a month, doesn't make them less of a human being to me but they surely are not rich.
You know, sometimes I don't know what's worse.... the hooker or the customer.
After all, yes, they are prostitutes but we're not better. We purchase their services times and times again... maybe it's us who are the W.hores ;)
Member #3428
10-22-09, 04:44
maybe it's us who are the W.hores ;)
Are you asking about "us" as a group or "us" as meaning me? :D
How can you even say or ask MAYBE it is us who are the wh@res? If it was not for us there would be no customers so there would be no jobs for them to do, so of course we are the wh@res.
If you are asking about me then you know I am a much bigger wh@re then the girls that are with me for damn sure. 100% absolutely positively the girls that are usually with me deserve much better. And you've known some of them and they are very nice people. It is unfortunate they end up with me.
This is why I do not judge them or look down on them. The fools are the customers who think they are smarter, better, and / or superior to the service providers. And I've been burnt folks, 100% admit it, we've probably all been burnt a time or two... :D
So good for them, they got me, but I had fun doing it. And the ones that did burn me bad, I'm still getting a piece of them for free so it's balancing out over time ;)
Make contact, keep contact. Turn phone off during sex.
I have lady from up country, in call if I am in town and can't go out. Text msg, She trots down for bus fare, dinner, a little shopping and bingo felatio, wet as wet pussy, multi-orgasmic, some cash, bye bye back to business next day.
Tampa??? So she offered to blow your Dad? and let Mom watch?
WHY? This is absolutely terrible advice.
GET mobile numbers ... The #1 most important rule is to keep contacts.
If the bars close or there is funeral or whatever then what are you going to do wank off?
I even had a girl move to Tampa Florida because that is where I told her I was from (unfortunately that is where my FAMILY lives in the winter and that is where my ticket originated from that visit) and yes she did track down my mom and dad. :D
Now that was a phone call with my mom I will never forget......
So I guess you need to read the hotel thread and not make the same mistake the next time ....
I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area. Because then I waste too much time to go and see the town or enjoy other past times. So I got a room near Grand Palais and it was nice for my tourist goals. But terribly far and uncomfortable for the honey. So I just focused on tourism which, for the first time in Bkk, is not that bad. I went to Patpong once and saw something nice. But, once again, the ST was a must. Since I was at at least 40 minutes by taxi from my room it was impossible and, as I already said, I do not like to use bar rooms. And I went to Tulip once as well. My goodness: just three not young, not pretty not hot ladies. So I left the place and the idea on having some honey in this first time in Bkk of mine.
Member #3428
10-22-09, 07:06
Make contact, keep contact. Turn phone off during sex.
I have lady from up country, in call if I am in town and can't go out. Text msg, She trots down for bus fare, dinner, a little shopping and bingo felatio, wet as wet pussy, multi-orgasmic, some cash, bye bye back to business next day.
I have one married lady and two ladies who are sponsored like that. One call, they bus down, sex, go home all on the other guys dime. Such the reason I'm not pissed about getting burned before (or in the future) because I'm humping girls that are being paid by other guys now :D
Tampa??? So she offered to blow your Dad? and let Mom watch?
She told them she was pregnant with their grand child. My mother called me while she was feeding this girl dinner and having a long chat with her. They still talk to this day.
Since we are on idiotic Tansak KTV moments, a further idiotic move, me not living in or being fully American, have my ebay account set up at my parents home but ship overseas. Me ordering the Rachel's Pleasures Bed Bondage Kit, which instead of shipping overseas got delivered to my mother the day before her B Day. Boy was she surprised....
This is why I do not judge them or look down on them.Thailand is like no other place in the world. How do we refer to all of the providers as 'prostitutes'(? ) when there are so many striations in the shale? The word 'prostitute' has such negative connotations, but where do you draw the line?
OK. When I am in Bangkok, I have a girl that comes to the condo once a week. She cleans everything, launders and irons all of my clothes, she even does the windows. She is 22 years old, a 9.5 in looks, has the body of a young filly, high cheeks, long, slender legs and firm gravity defying breasts. She a 10+ in the sack and she sleeps with me cuddling like a lovely hearted schoolgirl cherishing every moment we are together. She makes incredible Thai breakfasts and even sings while she does the dishes. I pay her 5, 000 Baht for the privilege of her visits and I can't tell you how much I look forward to her arrival each week. However, no matter how you cut it, no matter how I personally want to refer to her, she is in fact a prostitute, yes, she is.
People that don't live here in Thailand basically do not have a clue as to what you may avail yourself of here.
Yes, of course I have been burned along the line too, many times in fact. Everyone I know here has been done up in one way or another, and fucking hell I am probably being burned right now (on some level or another) But, I am not an easy mark, experience makes me see negativity before it has a chance to manifest itself to a point of being out of control. I engineer situations to my own benefit most of the time.
Thailand, especially Bangkok, is a place where the word 'prostitute' is a hard thing to admit to yourself. So, if I don't want to, I DON'T. I never look down on any of the girls I am with, ever. In fact, it's probably just the opposite, what I have found is that if I compliment them on their strong points and make them feel better about themselves, my level of pleasure is ultimately elevated a thousand fold.
This is Thailand! A place like no other.
If I see a gal smoking she is off my list.
i also avoid the smokey bars like office on 33.
Others I will frequent ... pulled freelance freebie Laotian from Giotto's place last week. I had avoided before smoke ban.
The Laotian girl did not smoke ... made up for it with other vices.
Another ex smoker.... Office Bar I can not go to on Soi 33 due to the large qty of smoke. I also know some hot ladies with great talent that have left working there due to the qty of smoke in the place.
Giving some bars credit on Soi 33 (without name dropping :D ) many of the bars have stayed smoke free even if the owners smoke. I find it amusing the owners having to sit their arse outside of their own places to light up.
Personally I can still stand next to a smoker and not be offended by it, when I am in a bar full of smoke and smokers or hotel rooms that people had smoked in, IE stale smoke, I about throw up. That was the main reason I avoided NEP in the past the closed spaces and large qty of smoke before.
Member #3428
10-22-09, 07:16
If I see a gal smoking she is off my list....The Laotian girl did not smoke ... made up for it with other vices.
Well for me they must smoke, and a lot, just not cig's :D
Others I will frequent ... pulled freelance freebie Laotian from Giotto's place last week.
Giotto's is a freelance pick up place now?? Damn so that's why the no rabbits allowed sign is still up....
... pulled freelance freebie Laotian from Giotto's place last week.
...Bearsk,
Freelance ? Laotian ???
Tell me more news about my bar :) ...
Giotto
Because its very difficult for the girls to get their pumped up bar fines paid at some places, and get people to give them big fat tips, if people appreciate just how much money these girls make.
Therefore its far easier to portray them with BS comments about being "just above the poverty line".
The majority of girls working in Bangkok for example are nowhere near the poverty line, they just know its very easy to open their legs and get easy cash without any consequences.
But hey, let the BS artists portray it as they wish, it might make you feel sorry for the girls and pay them more, and then the girls are happy to stay in work and the owners have less hassle retaining the girls - easy life for all.The Pro,
Very well, let's proceed with the generalization / categorization of "The Thai Bar Girls" as leg-spreading customer rip-off objects, which we farang can use as we wish and throw away after usage. Tipping unnecessary, of course. And - their main motivation to do that job is to show a "better" mobile around in the bar after the event. --- Now - THAT IS BS!
For some people obviously "structures" must be simplified, otherwise they cannot understand them.
I know some bar girls :). All of them have stories. Most of them don't like the job. Some of them really make money, others just make enough for a reasonable living. Many of them have family in Isaan, living close to the poverty line.
Some of them have given up the dream to find a boy-friend or husband, and they start to squeeze as much money out of customers as they can get. Others go even for free, if they feel something, and the hope is there that this could be the man who takes care of them and their families in the future.
Some of them are too lazy to work in 7/11 or a department store, and they found out that they can make money more easy in a bar. Others simply cannot find a job, at least not a job which generates that amount of income that they can send their kids to school and take care of their parents. That's what I call the "Eldest Sister Phenomenon".
Some usually younger ones have Thai boyfriends, and only go ST. Once they made some money they don't show up the next day, because they spend the time with their boyfriend ( --> money disappears magically). Then they return to the bar.
Now - I leave the above mentioned "objects" to you, though I don't understand why you are still participating in the game, if the involved counterparts for GFE/fun/sex are of that quality. The real art of mongering is to find the perls in this mountain of available women here in Thailand. Generalization does not really help anybody to get there.
Giotto
No, i am not a customer, and i don't know Giotto, but i do agree with his perspective on this.
My experience is that whilst some may well bring in serious amounts of money, very few build up much wealth. It is all given on to support family, and the temples. Their choice, different place different culture. Not for us to judge, who says it is wrong for the young to take care of their parents?
I have a lovely girl (in my eyes) and every time i am in Bkk, around once a month, i stay in her condo. Nothing flash, not big, but perfectly comfortable and more importantly very special for me to stay with her in her place. I reckon what i give her along the way i save just on hotel and food bills! She is half my age. She holds strong conversations with me on world matters, is a sponge for knowledge. I love the time with her!
If a bloke is in Bkk out for a wham bham F*ck em and forget em experience, why is he surprised when the girl is working on the same basis? You want all you can get from them, they want all they can get from you. And they are more practised!
But if a bloke takes the time and trouble to find a gem, polish it, and still manages to keep the right perspective (that is - understand if she finds someone who will offer even more comfort money security, she will move on), the most special experiences can happen both sexually and culturally.
(stepping down off my soap box now)
i just reckon blokes need to know that all the girls aren't all bad.
Ozirob
Member #4643
10-22-09, 22:34
I am on my way to Bangkok for three days, and have arranged for an evening with a girl I met on the internet as a starter. She is a straightforward P4P, although I met her on a dating site. Very beautiful, and (hopefully) she will be ready to relax me after my 24 hour plane flight.
She sent me her phone number: 083-188-XXXX.
I cannot figure out how to call this from the USA. I know Thailand has a country code of 66, but I cannot find 083 as a city code, which I thought was 02 in Bangkok.
Can anyone educate me as to how I call this number?
Thanks Forest
I am on my way to Bangkok for three days, and have arranged for an evening with a girl I met on the internet as a starter. She is a straightforward P4P, although I met her on a dating site. Very beautiful, and (hopefully) she will be ready to relax me after my 24 hour plane flight.
She sent me her phone number: 083-188-XXXX.
I cannot figure out how to call this from the USA. I know Thailand has a country code of 66, but I cannot find 083 as a city code, which I thought was 02 in Bangkok.
Can anyone educate me as to how I call this number?
Thanks Forest
011 66 83 188 XXXX
Unless you want others calling her, I would delete portions of her number as I did.
Member #3428
10-22-09, 22:43
She sent me her phone number: 083-188-XXXX.
from USA? 011 6683188XXXX
Phone is turned off right now. Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.
If shes p4p they off their phones, their phones are in lockers, etc... and when you posted this it is 5 am in BKK time so she could be sacked out with another guy.
EDIT all hell Run.... I was having fun posting it... OK I edited mine out but I did save it so let me know if she was worth it or not....
from USA? 011 6683188XXXX
Phone is turned off right now. Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.
If shes p4p they off their phones, their phones are in lockers, etc... and when you posted this it is 5 am in BKK time so she could be sacked out with another guy.
EDIT all hell Run.... I was having fun posting it... OK I edited mine out but I did save it so let me know if she was worth it or not....
I called as you did to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone!
Member #3428
10-22-09, 22:51
I called as you did just to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone!
I see we are both bastards and now have that number stored.... I wonder if the Original Poster would be kind enough to share her photo next so I know who I'm calling :D
A trip report about her would be welcomed also, costs, what she is good at etc... I mean as long as half the mongering population has her phone number what could it hurt?
Dextro Sol
10-22-09, 23:55
from USA? 011 6683188XXXX
Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.
That number is a mobile ...
I called as you did to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone!
LB???
NicFrenchy
10-23-09, 02:50
Thailand is like no other place in the world. How do we refer to all of the providers as 'prostitutes'(? ) when there are so many striations in the shale? The word 'prostitute' has such negative connotations, but where do you draw the line?
OK. When I am in Bangkok, I have a girl that comes to the condo once a week. She cleans everything, launders and irons all of my clothes, she even does the windows. She is 22 years old, a 9.5 in looks, has the body of a young filly, high cheeks, long, slender legs and firm gravity defying breasts. She a 10+ in the sack and she sleeps with me cuddling like a lovely hearted schoolgirl cherishing every moment we are together. She makes incredible Thai breakfasts and even sings while she does the dishes. I pay her 5, 000 Baht for the privilege of her visits and I can't tell you how much I look forward to her arrival each week. However, no matter how you cut it, no matter how I personally want to refer to her, she is in fact a prostitute, yes, she is.
People that don't live here in Thailand basically do not have a clue as to what you may avail yourself of here.
Yes, of course I have been burned along the line too, many times in fact. Everyone I know here has been done up in one way or another, and fucking hell I am probably being burned right now (on some level or another) But, I am not an easy mark, experience makes me see negativity before it has a chance to manifest itself to a point of being out of control. I engineer situations to my own benefit most of the time.
Thailand, especially Bangkok, is a place where the word 'prostitute' is a hard thing to admit to yourself. So, if I don't want to, I DON'T. I never look down on any of the girls I am with, ever. In fact, it's probably just the opposite, what I have found is that if I compliment them on their strong points and make them feel better about themselves, my level of pleasure is ultimately elevated a thousand fold.
This is Thailand! A place like no other.
Yes, absolutely!
In my opinion, I don't think the term "prostitute" in and of itself is a negative term, it's HOW people refer to it that can make it negative.
Calling it "working girl" or "lady of the night" is just trying to sugar coat it and does not mean you think better of the ladies.
Yes, I call them prostitutes but it is the same as calling a postman a postman, that's their job, nothing more.
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But yes you are right, there are some top earners but very few overall...
Not that rare. 50000 baht a month (and more) is not unusual earnings for a P4P girl in Pattaya, Bangkok and other tourist destinations in Thailand. Many girls also have one or several sponsors (and more often than not, they don't stop working when their sponsors are back home anyway despite what they might have said to them) and can get even more money from them.
Sure, they send a lot of money to their families (often, half of their earnings). But many girls spend almost as much money on parties, gambling, new clothes, new shoes, new bags, new mobile phones, methamphetamines, cosmetics (make-up, whitening creams...), etc.
And of course, even the most successful girls won't earn big money (for Thailand) during all their life. It lasts just a few years. They know that and that's why a P4P girl will try to find a "good" foreign husband as soon as possible even if he won't give her as much money as she can earn as a prostitute. Those girls know that it's a financial security in the long term for them and their family.
For your information, poverty line is around 1500 baht per month (it was 1386 baht per month in 2006). I have yet to meet a single P4P girl who doesn't earn several times more than that amount per month!
You can find interesting and reliable information about average wages in Thailand for instance in the Bangkok Post economic reviews (http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicreviews.html).
The latest figures available online are the following:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicmidyear2008/pictures/fact01.jpg
http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicmidyear2008/pictures/fact02.jpg
Oops, sorry that was me. She left it on the nightstand and I thought it was mine! I'll have her call after I post...
I called as you did to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone!
Originally Posted by Tansak KTV
from USA? 011 6683188XXXX
Phone is turned off right now. Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.
If shes p4p they off their phones, their phones are in lockers, etc... and when you posted this it is 5 am in BKK time so she could be sacked out with another guy.![/QUOTE]
NicFrenchy
10-23-09, 02:59
LB???
Well wouldn't that be fucking hilarious :D
NicFrenchy
10-23-09, 03:03
If a bloke is in Bkk out for a wham bham F*ck em and forget em experience, why is he surprised when the girl is working on the same basis? You want all you can get from them, they want all they can get from you. And they are more practised!
Very well said!
It makes me chuckle when guys refer to it as a "perfect Girlfriend Experience"... if you want a girlfriend, then get one but don't expect a P4P lady to feel like your girlfriend. It's her Job. Sure she's gonna try and make you feel like a million bucks (as she does with all the John Does who are with her) but that does not make her your Girlfriend.
F F F
If you want a girlfriend, stop looking in the Bars or massage places
Member #3428
10-23-09, 03:03
Oops, sorry that was me. She left it on the nightstand and I thought it was mine! I'll have her call you after I post...
Great, call me and tell me if she takes greek and if you loosened her up for me or not. Remember she's supposed to meet me at my 3 pm landing time so don't take too long and please ask her to shower first. :D
If you got some spare rubbers give them to her as I think I left mine in the hotel in Manila.
Thanks Mate !
Member #3428
10-23-09, 03:05
If you want a girlfriend, stop looking in the Bars or massage places
They are the only ones who can put up with me :D
NicFrenchy
10-23-09, 03:27
They are the only ones who can put up with me :D
You mean they're the only ones crazy enough? ;)
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