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Pablo

12-15-09, 12:43

Will be visiting Bangkok for a few days from this Friday and staying near the Nana Station on Sukhumvit. Unfortunately the bloody missus will be in tow to curtail my fun. I have a cunning plan to escape from her for a few hours of "Christmas shopping". Is best place for afternoon fun the NEP? Last time I was there was maybe 8 years ago and I remember G spot as a good place. Read on some site that it is LB place now. Where else is recommended?

I couldn't believe that G-Spot would go Ladyboy so I decided to check it out for myself last night.

Sure as shit, I walk in and there's a couple obvious ladyboys dancing on the end of the stage closest to the door, but it seemed that most of the dancers were girl-girls. So I decide to have a drink and an obvious real girl sits next to me and I asked her about the ladyboys.

At first she claimed "there are no ladyboys here" so I laughed that off and pointed out the most obvious one with tats on her back and doing the classic ladyboy strut around the bar.

Finally she admitted there were 5 ladyboys but she also said they all had had their dicks cut off (Gender Reassignment Surgery). 'm not sure if she said all or some, but that was her story.

Not that we should ever believe what the bar girls tell us, but looking around the bar it was plausible, not that I wanted to check it out that closely!

So for anybody that wants to try something new, go for it! I'm sure if it is true there'll be a few unwary dudes who will never know.

Goyave

12-15-09, 13:08

Can you tell me the exact brand? I assume you are referring to condom size 54cm? Because almost all Durex I see here in 7 Elevens etc. seem to be 52-53 only.

54 cm? Welcome on board Mr Elephant Man! :D

Normad2020

12-15-09, 14:11

Arrived in Bangkok after spending 7 glorious days in Pattaya. Checked into Citadines at Soi 8 around 11.30am (14 Dec). Waited for my other 3 friends to arrive from Koh Samui. As I have promised them, we went for a soapie. I wanted to try some place new and decided to take the MRT to Nataree.

Reached there around 3pm and the fishbowl was well stocked. The captain seeing that we were farang (1 Eurasian, 1 Indian, 2 Chinese and 2 Malay) quoted 3,000 baht each for the fishbowl girls. I was shocked and politely told him that the normal price should be around 2000 baht but he was firmed. I was pissed and told my friends we will take our business elsewhere. Took the MRT back to Sukhumvit station and BTS to Nana station. From there walked to Annies.

At Annies we were very much welcomed. My 5 friends were again like boys in a candy store. They made their choices and proceeded happily to their respective rooms. By then, I was not in a mood for soapie and told them I will meet them later at the hotel lobby.

I took the BTS to Asok and from there walked to Soi 22 and enter Hana massage. Rin was at the counter and I told her I wanted her to massage me for 1.5 hrs Oil. She gave me a knowing smile and led me upstairs. I was requested to shower and then the oil massage began. It was great!!!

The highlight came about mid-way through the massage and the balls massage was what I can only described as awesome...she brought me close to the peak so many times that I lost count and when finally I climaxed, it was ........ I am having a hard-on now as I am typing this!!!!!!

I have to admit that Rin has passed her prime but if your want incredible service (ball massage) than it is the experience that matters.....!!!!!

Went back to the hotel and saw 5 very satisfied faces. Changed and went out to dinner at Soi 11 (opposite Ambassador hotel) for great Thai food. After dinner wandered around that area as my friends wanted to buy the roadside souvenirs.

Later we went to Soi Cowboy and sat at Suzie Wong and watched some lesbian show. My 5 friends bar fined some girls from 3 beer bars round the corner from Soi Cowboy (near the famous fish & chips place). I decided to give it a missed (after Rin).

Day 2 started great and as I began comparing prices (for Day 1 activities) I suddenly realized that Bangkok prices have definitely increased since the last time I was here and naturally very much more expensive than Pattaya........

We shall see as we have until this Saturday....

Cheers
normad2020

Sonic Bam

12-15-09, 15:43

54 cm? Welcome on board Mr Elephant Man! :D
Man alive, RAFLMAO, and by the pool at LL, many funny looks. Brilliant comeback! Okay, maybe a couple too many Singhas. :)

Rocksoff

12-15-09, 20:35

The captain seeing that we were farang (1 Eurasian, 1 Indian, 2 Chinese and 2 Malay) quoted 3,000 baht each for the fishbowl girls.

Wow. I'm a white guy and none of the papasans there have ever quoted me anything other than 2000 for the fishbowl girls. And 2300/2600 for the sideliners. Except for one or two that are quoted as 5000 or so, but I always thought that's just for a sucker who wants to feel he gets something different.

Rocksoff

12-15-09, 20:45

is best place for afternoon fun the nep?

for a straight hour or two of fucking, go to tulip at thong lo bts.

any other ideas on how to escape for a few hours appreciated. watchin footy on sat night another possibility i suppose. does [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) that i read about show the epl as a bj at the bar watching the game would be interesting.

the bar at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s is generally quite deserted. you pick a girl and head straight upstairs to a couch behind a curtain where the bj happens.

i guess it's possible that afterskool or toy bar in soi cowboy may be showing epl with the sound off .. you can get mutual groping and a bj in the corner while watching the game .. maybe .. mutual groping and a bj certainly (i used to get a hj for 300 baht but i haven't been there since march or so), but i wouldn't bet on the game ..

Pita123

12-15-09, 21:07

round the corner from Soi Cowboy (near the famous fish & chips place).

Famous Fish & Chips place? Do tell!

One Tree Hill

12-16-09, 04:40

Famous Fish & Chips place? Do tell!

The Offshore - an eat in or takeaway kind of place. Good greasy fish and chips! Prices are good too. Its on Soi 23.

Normad2020

12-16-09, 04:47

That was why I decided to get my friends and I out of the place. I have done some homework here on ISG and I have a rough idea on the price range. Anyway there was no harm done. I just want to highlight it in my report so that others might be aware of possible "selected pricing" there.

Cheers
normad2020

Wow. I'm a white guy and none of the papasans there have ever quoted me anything other than 2000 for the fishbowl girls. And 2300/2600 for the sideliners. Except for one or two that are quoted as 5000 or so, but I always thought that's just for a sucker who wants to feel he gets something different.

GroinStrain

12-16-09, 06:39

Thanks to the guys for the information. Will report on my exploits when I return.

Normad2020

12-16-09, 06:55

Woke up early (6am) as I did not take a companion for the night. Decided to go jogging along Sukhumvit. Started on the even-numbered side from Nana BTS all the way to Emporium Mall and double back on the odd-numbered side. Great way to start the day. Back to the hotel and shower. Had breakfast alone as my other friends were still occupied.

After breakfast found an internet cafe to reply some mails. Got a sms from my friends around 11am saying they were hungry and wanted to do some shopping. Met them at Nana BTS and took them to MBK for lunch (International Food Court, L5) and later let them shop whilst I watched girls go by......

Around 5pm went back to the hotel and took a shower. Agreed to meet at 6pm for a nice massage++. Brought them to Mango (via BTS) and gave them first preference after requesting the lady at the counter to identify all the 3-holers. My friends chose their respective partners and went upstairs.

I chose Pop as she gave me a great smile and a CFM body language. Went upstairs and she undressed both of us and we shower. In the shower she gave me a BBBJ as a preview of things to come.

Toweled down and she immediately went for a body-to-body oil massage with lots of foreplay. We went 69 and later I finger-f**ked her to a climax. Capped on and multiple positions (no 3rd hole) transpired culminating in a good splashed on the boobs. Rested a while and another shower where Pop gave me a great BBBJCIM. Satisfied and paid her for a great service rendered.

My other 5 friends had their first 3-holer and the expression on their face was priceless...hahahaha. On leaving the place they immediately wanted a repeat and so I promised them to go to Tulip tomorrow (today 16 Dec).....
Had dinner at the Foodland opposite the Beer Garden at Soi 7.

Later had a beer at the Beer Garden where I picked Som. My other friends wanted to go NEP so we make our way there. At NEP my Indian friend wanted to try a LB and despite our objection (including from Som) he went ahead and got himself one. The other 4 friends took some ladies from some of the beer bars inside the NEP complex and we made our way back to the hotel.

Som and I had 2 rounds and she stayed with me until around 2.30am (ST).

Cheers
normad2020

Normad2020

12-16-09, 07:11

Go Pattaya first and ends your holiday in Bangkok.

BTW, I do not think you want to go Manila now with the volcanic activities going on there.

Cheers
normad2020

Hi Guys,

I need your help. I'm taking vacation from 10/27. 1/3. I'm trying to decide between Manila/AC or Bangkok. I've been to Bangkok twice last year and I loved it. But I've never been to Manila or AC. What do you guys think would be a better option to spend my vacation including new years for fun, hot girls and mongering for a week?

Thanks for your help

TimTimGuy

12-16-09, 07:49

i had an hour free yesterday, when passing through the city of angels. i was near nana, so i figured i would visit [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s...it's been a while.

i chose a busty little chinese looking girl (ms r.)....chubby without being fat. the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girls have ditched the school girl outfits in favor of dresses. mr. r removed all her clothes except for her pants, joined me on the couch/bench, and delivered a bj that was an order of magnitude (10x !!) better than any other i've received except at the flower shop. she kept rubbing her very ample boobs along my thighs, which was a very nice upgrade from my previous visits to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.

and when she had brought me to an oh-so-nice-and-explosvie finish, she asked "ek nung aw mai?" if i had more time, i would have tried.

her name by pm. but ttg is traveling right now, so be patient.

Jeff46

12-16-09, 08:06

By Tammy, this blog political journalist

AFP did not call Bangkok as being the call girl capital of the world for nothing. Bangkok as it is called by expatriates here, as "Bangers." And here in Bangkok, it is a liberal as it comes when it comes to sexy stuff. Thailand is so well-known for its sexual escapades, comedians around the globe has been joking that Bangkok is a wonderful name for the city, meaning "Bang" and Cock."

So is it not odd really, that there could be a sex scandal going on in Thailand today that involved the Thai government. Like really, who in Roman in ancient days, will accuse another Roman of being too crazy sexy.

The current Thai scandal started with Luk Ked, a very famous sexy Thai model and a bunch of her model friends, went posing for the new year calendar from the beer Singha group, that is just so full of sexy picture of them.

Then the Thai Ministry of Public Health was freaked out because they said the calendar goes against Thailand's law banning alcohol advertisement in any form and it was also afraid drinking will increase with such attractive model telling people who drinking and sexy girls goes together.

So the Ministry of Public health issue a stoppage on the calendar and said it will sue Ber Singh for breaking the law.

Well you know Beer Sing belongs to one of the richest family in Thailand of the Pirompakdi and it has all sorts of connections and pull all over the place.

And so to slap the Thai Ministry of Health in the face for not knowing what is what in Thailand, a family member of the Beer Singh family decided to take his cause to the Thai government House. Well what do you expect, an election might be around the corner and politicians are looking for financial support-and so the guy got into the Thai Government House like a breeze.

There the guy began giving out the sexy calendar. Thai press are now breaking the event on their SME services that politicians and government staff are forming very long lines for the free calendar.

The problem is that the Ministry of Public Health is run by a minister from the government's coalition party. And obviously, the sight of so many politicians from other coalition parties standing in line for the ban calendar, right in the Government House and under their nose, had cause what some Thai press reports as very "Pissed Off" politicians.

Will the Thai government break apart over this calendar? We think that the real fight is in fight for the free calendar, because as the SMS reports, the Pirompakdi guy only took 500 of them to the Government House and they are runing out fast.

But for a more serious reporting, drinking is really a major nasty habit of the Thais and during all major holidays, the Thai police call the period "Dangerous Times" because hundreds of Thais gets kild during holidays mainly from drunk driving. Thailand's alcohol consumption per person, is reported to be in the top three global.

These sexy calendar have been a major advertisement tool for the Pirompakdi family. Hord of people would hit the retail stores, buying up booze, in massive amounts, in an attempt to get their hands on these calendars.

As for Luk Ked, her sexy appearance is reported in some men's magazine as about US$200,000. Luk Ked just had a kid and for a long time, she was very chubby and lost a great deal of her sex appeal. This calendar is her big comeback as the most sexy super model in Thailand.

"I am going to fight this legal action, because my body is the best gift of nature and I am proud to show myself," said Luk Ked. Luk Ked is married to a very hansom, but homely, foreign guy and when she just got started in the modeling business, there were lots and lots of rumors of wild Luk Ked can be when it comes to kinky sex-and we are talking about real wild and real kinky here.Found this post at thai intellegency.

Goyave

12-16-09, 08:32

... i chose a busty little chinese looking girl (ms r.)....chubby without being fat. the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girls have ditched the school girl outfits in favor of dresses. mr. r removed all her clothes except for her pants ...

ms r. removed her clothes and is then called mr. r!
scary! :eek: :d

Captain Renault

12-16-09, 10:35

i walked by a place called relax massage oil on lat phrao the other day. it is a "spa massage". from what i gathered it was 550 baht for a one hour massage, hj is included in the price, and any extras beyond that are not permitted. i actually walked by two of these type places.

i'd like a little advice from the pros. i guess i'm asking if, for a quick cheap stop, are these places worth it? if they actually give a good quality massage before the hj i'd be happy with that. or is it a better option to go legit, then make a trip somewhere like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s afterward?

Pekkakoo

12-16-09, 17:05

I decided to add a report. Last Monday I went to eat a lunch, then visited a barber (bad one, anyone know good who can speak english?), then went to buy a few beers from 7eleven, then to my hotel room to drink some. Finally started walking along Sukh road towards Nana just to see the street girls for fun. In almost every corner some guy was advertising a massage place, which was a soapie I thought, probably the same place each was trying to sell. Finally in the corner of soi3 and told the guy that ok I go see the place. I told him it might be expensive, he said only 2000 for 2 hours, saki faki everything.

Then we just walked a long way, soi 3 to its end then a short walk along a big street. Finally there was the place called Embassy, anyone know? The manager inside tell me it is 2500 for 2 hour, I was too drunk to argue. He recommended a girl from the fishbowl, she looked nice so I went with her. At the desk the manager insisted a 300 tip, which I paid. I also ordered a beer when they asked if I wanted a drink.

Upstairs we took shower, body to body massage on a swimming mattress or what is it called in english. Then moved to bed, she put a condom and gave a little CBJ (isn't it usually BBBJ in these places?) then a little cowgirl, then mish and I came quickly as I was horny. Then quick shower and she started to dress and I rested a little and did the same thing. I looked at watch it said that about an hour had gone. I don't know if I should and could have insisted a 2nd round or something? I was happy already so I followed her downstairs and out of the door. She wanted 500 tip but I said no and gave finally only 300 so the total damage was 2500+300+300=3100 for about an hour. Did I pay too much? Does the price usually include you can come 2 times? One of them as oral only? Maybe it depends. But oral was covered so I didn't care about it anywy. But it was my first soapie so I didn't know what to request. Maybe a little too much I paid for only 1 hour, the girl was ok, 23 year old from Isan (aren't they all from there?). Place was ok but I think I could find better ones as well.

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Norhead

12-16-09, 21:02

I went to Bangkok early in November. Wanted to buy some Apcalis at the usual pharmacy between Sukhumvit soi 15 and 19, near Asia Books. But they didn't sell it anymore i was told. Same experience with another pharmacy just down the road.

Why is that? Annbody know? Or is it back in stock? Are other generic stuff like Kamagra still available?

Going to Bangkok on Monday, so any advices welcome. I stay in soi 15.

Dextro Sol

12-16-09, 21:22

Why is that? Annbody know? Or is it back in stock? Are other generic stuff like Kamagra still available?

Have no idea about Apcalis, but for sure Kamagra is still sold. I bought in Soi 11 and Pattaya late november.

Member #3428

12-17-09, 00:19

Why is that? Annbody know? Or is it back in stock? Are other generic stuff like Kamagra still available?

Going to Bangkok on Monday, so any advices welcome. I stay in soi 15.

Clarify please... Apcalis, when you ask for Apcalis it generally means the Generic Oral Cialis Jelly.

So are you asking for Cialis jelly satchels or generic Cialis??

The Apcalis jelly was not a big volume item as cialis is a 24 - 36 hour drug, you should normally be taking 20 mg the first day and drop down to 10 mg after that and you should take it about the same time every day.

People like the Kamagra jelly as this is a 4 hour lasting item and the jelly gives you faster acting into the blood stream so you are not waiting as long for the pill to get into your system.

Generic Cialis is available all over in various names, just ask for generic cialis. If you are asking for Apcalis many people MIGHT assume you want just the jelly version which is not always in stock at many places per my understanding.

Jager

12-17-09, 03:09

In an earlier extensive post, I read about the Tulip massage place on 806/2-3 Sukhumvit 38 Rd, just right at the BTS Skytrain Thonglor Station exit. This was rated in the earlier post more for pleasure than for massages. So I wanted to try it out.
When arriving with the Skytrain it helps that Tulip has placed a big grey sign with the word “Tulip” (about 2 meters x 1 meter) in eye-level at the side of the building where they are located. I just went down the BTS platform stairs and walked back towards the Tulip entrance which is on street level.
The receptionist was medium friendly, it was late about 10:30pm, they are open from 10:00am until midnight, and she looked tired. I asked for a 1 hour massage plus extra service, which I should settle with the girl I was told. I paid her 400 baht and she pointed for me to go downstairs. There were about 20-25 girls sitting on a long bench next to each other, all looking at you, as soon as you entered the room. I sat down looked them over then pointed to a little taller girl towards the end of the row. All girls applauded her and she stood up and we went upstairs together. She led me two more flights of stairs up. The place was clean, but one could see that it has been used for quite some time. She went in a small room with me and asked if I wanted something to drink, I said water would be fine. She left and 2 minutes later someone knocked at the door and brought two waters. She had turned on the AC, but it was still fairly hot and humid since the AC is only working when someone inserts the remote control.
After about 3 minutes she came back with a small basket full of lotions and creams. Very nice smile and pleasant behavior, we made small talk, name, first time here, etc. Her name was Cat, she is 29 years old, (I had guessed 24), and has a 6 year old daughter. She asked to take a shower together which we did; she washed herself and me in all the right places without hurry and started to play around. I left the shower first, took one of the towels and gave her one. She was fairly tall with small natural boobs and a nice flat stomach. She asked me to lie on my belly and started with the massage on my lower right leg. This was a good massage, which proceeded towards my butt and back. She played only a little with my balls and then went on towards my back. I couldn’t turn around well, but started to feel her oily body and tits on my lower legs making her way up my whole body, nice and slowly. Great oil body massage, using only her oily boobs. When she was finished a real treat came, she did the same starting from my lower legs, now only with her mouth and tongue and stopping at the right places to kiss longer. When she reached my head she started to kiss and nibbled on my ears, with her boobs pressing firmly and nicely up and down my back. When she asked me to turn over, my friend stood to attention and she ignored him starting to massage my outer and inner thighs, which made him even harder. After about a 5 minute massage, she started to give me a slow BBBJ and I pulled her on top of me to eat her nice clean pussy. She seemed to enjoy the 69 position and I had to be careful not to come too soon. After a few minutes she put a condom on my friend with her mouth which was nice. She nicely asked what position, I preferred we get started, I told her that I like her to lay on her back. We had slow sex for a few minutes and I came much earlier than I had hoped, and was satisfied. We laid on the bed for awhile together, showered quick to wash off the massage oil and she asked if I was happy. I said yes, paid her Baht 1,500 and we walked together downstairs. The receptionist gave me a business card and told me that I can make reservations for certain girls, so I will not be disappointed when they are busy. I will post next on my return visit. Would recommend this place for good and friendly, un rushed service.

Jager

12-17-09, 03:11

The next day was spent with way too much waiting ion traffic and figuring out when to take public transportation and when not depending on the places I had to go. I was tired when I finally arrived around 7pm in my hotel room. I decide to repeat my experience from the day before at Tulip massage and gave them a call Tel.0-2391-7564 and asked to have a reservation/booking for Cat for 2 hrs at 8:30pm.

I was about 15 minutes late, but the receptionist from the day before, was much friendlier, nicer and smiled a lot. They like repeat customers, indicating that their girls know how to get people back. She called Cat, who came within 2 minutes and we went 2 floors up. Same as the day before, I was asked what I would like to drink; a lady came with water and a big glass of ice cubes and a coke for Cat. Cat came back after a few minutes with her basket full of crèmes, oils, lotions and soap. Very much the same nice offer to take a shower together, a little playing and I couldn’t wait to lie down and let her massage me again. After another great body massage with her oily tits, she asked me to turn over and before paying attention to my friend, who stood there, she told me in a sincere tone that she would do ‘whatever’ makes me happy. You don’t hear that sentence too often from a rushed western service provider. I asked for a slow 69 and her BBBJ was much better than the day before. She seemed to enjoy me playing with my tongue in her pussy and fingering her anus. What a nice firm butt and great thighs to play with. I asked her to cover me and she masterfully put the condom on with her mouth, proceeded to blow a little more then we played around in different positions until I came, which was a nice long release. After that we talked and 1 1/2 hours had already passed, she enjoyed not having to rush. She told me that the girls get fined if the client pays for 1 hour and is finished in let’s say 30-40 minutes and leaves the room before the hour is up. [So please try to stay for an hour if you can, so the girls don’t have to pay the early penalty]

She expertly started to play with my little friend, some firm hand movements made him wake up in her very willing mouth and I decided at this point, that is all I wanted for the remaining 15-20 minutes. She really gave me a very great hand blow job combination, with just enough oil and firmness to come very relaxed again. We cleaned up, took another quick shower together and we got dressed. I gave her 1,500 Baht plus 200 baht tip, which I should have done yesterday and she thanked me for it.

This was my last day in Bangkok. I had to get up the next day at 3:00am to catch an early flight back to the US. As you can tell, I liked that place and can recommend it to you fellow hobbyist.

M P Lurker

12-17-09, 04:01

Clarify please... Apcalis, when you ask for Apcalis it generally means the Generic Oral Cialis Jelly.

So are you asking for Cialis jelly satchels or generic Cialis??

The Apcalis jelly was not a big volume item as cialis is a 24 - 36 hour drug, you should normally be taking 20 mg the first day and drop down to 10 mg after that and you should take it about the same time every day.

People like the Kamagra jelly as this is a 4 hour lasting item and the jelly gives you faster acting into the blood stream so you are not waiting as long for the pill to get into your system.

Generic Cialis is available all over in various names, just ask for generic cialis. If you are asking for Apcalis many people MIGHT assume you want just the jelly version which is not always in stock at many places per my understanding.
Tansak,

I have never laid eyes on Apcalis Jelly (perhaps I am unobservant when walking on Sukhumwit road), but Apcalis pills are commonly available.

I thought it was Kamagra that is usually assumed to be required in Jelly form.

Personally, I think the jellies are a dumb idea unless you intend to take the entire sachet, which I would think would be a considerable overdose in the case of Kamagra jelly and lead to severe flushing, head aches etc. Its much less messy to take quarter or a half of a Kamagra tablet.
If take half a sachet of jelly, how to keep the remainder in good condition without danger of oozing out and making a mess? Just my opinion.

Apcalis jelly, I wouldn't know as have never tried it.

I believe it should be easy to buy Apcalis pills at selected Pharmacies or even on the street, but haven't tried to get any recently. Maybe I'm not getting enough sex too!

Member #3428

12-17-09, 04:15

Tansak,

I have never laid eyes on Apcalis Jelly (perhaps I am unobservant when walking on Sukhumwit road), but Apcalis pills are commonly available.

I thought it was Kamagra that is usually assumed to be required in Jelly form.

Personally, I think the jellies are a dumb idea unless you intend to take the entire sachet, which I would think would be a considerable overdose in the case of Kamagra jelly and lead to severe flushing, head aches etc. Its much less messy to take quarter or a half of a Kamagra tablet.
If take half a sachet of jelly, how to keep the remainder in good condition without danger of oozing out and making a mess? Just my opinion.

Apcalis jelly, I wouldn't know as have never tried it.

I believe it should be easy to buy Apcalis pills at selected Pharmacies or even on the street, but haven't tried to get any recently. Maybe I'm not getting enough sex too!

I just delivered a box of 50 Apcalis Jelly to an ISG member :D

It is carried in my home country for people that have difficulties with pills, from what I'm told it is a slow moving item but something that is kept in stock. It is also available on line I am sure.

Your comment on the jelly has me a little confused as Kamagra Jelly is the same dosage that is in pill form but is absorbed faster into the blood stream. As such if you take it right before you hit up an MP the jelly will react faster for MOST people. Most folks pop the entire pill or satchel. I do not use Kamagra jelly or pill so do not know how it would affect me and I'm not sure how much you would consume but for most folks take an entire satchel or pill for four hours or so of punting around....

Apcalis Jelly is in full 20 mg form which is overkill for repeated use for most people as you should only be popping 10 mg after your fist day dosage of 20 mg (again for most folks).

NicFrenchy

12-17-09, 04:43

54 cm? Welcome on board Mr Elephant Man! :D

I use 54's, they are much more comfortable than the 52s

Member #3428

12-17-09, 05:29

I use 54's, they are much more comfortable than the 52s

Agree, there is nothing worse then a tight squeeze applied by a condom, just kills the experience for me. And what the girls normally carry are the cheapest tightest littlest thing available.

Goyave

12-17-09, 05:46

I use 54's, they are much more comfortable than the 52s

That's fine... but condom sizes (measurements of their width when unrolled) are given in millimeters, not centimeters, hence my joke. ;)

Normad2020

12-17-09, 07:29

I was curious to know my Indian friend's experience with a LB and so during lunch I asked him and his reply was "its an experience to be tried once"!!!! We had a good laugh....

After lunch we took a half-day tour of Bangkok canal which was very interesting. Returned to the hotel around 7pm and was given a note at the reception. Apparently Som had tried to contact me and since I was out she had left a note (in quite good English) asking me to call her. Contacted her and she told me she has some friends who wanted to FL with my friends. I had to check with them.

My friends were interested and so I call Som again to bring them over to the hotel. Som and 5 other ladies arrived around 8pm. The ladies were all very well groomed and dressed in "normal" wear (blouse and skirt). Deals were struck and we all left for dinner. During dinner I found out that they were working in the same building (different companies) and had occasionally moonlight when in need of money and since they were gearing up for the X'mas and New Year parties the easiest way to get extra money was to open their legs....

After dinner we went window shopping at Siam Paragon. The ladies bought their things (with their own money) and my friend did the same. Wondered there until around closing and we decided to go back to the hotel. Stopped at Hillary for a drink.

Som and I went three rounds that night and as agreed with the ladies earlier in the evening, they all left the hotel at 6am as they need to go to work. Today we are on the 1-day city tour of Bangkok.

Cheers
normad2020

Pekkakoo

12-17-09, 08:49

I use 54's, they are much more comfortable than the 52sCan you please tell me the brand and where to get them in BKK?

Friar Tuck

12-17-09, 10:45

This should give you a pretty clear Idea http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=636098&postcount=2646The linked reort has to be the best I have ever read!

"I am RAT". What a punchline!

You are a classic.

Tuck

Norhead

12-17-09, 12:00

Thanks Dextro Sol, Tansak KTV and MP Lunker. Regarding the Apcalis, I was thinking about pills. Didn't know about the jelly.

So guess I am better off asking for "Generic Cialis". Time will show...

NicFrenchy

12-17-09, 12:10

Agree, there is nothing worse then a tight squeeze applied by a condom, just kills the experience for me. And what the girls normally carry are the cheapest tightest littlest thing available.

Hahahahaha these girls all carry them 49mm condoms :)
(the finger condoms) LOL

Minuteman

12-17-09, 13:42

Wendella

12-17-09, 16:47

Fon Tok

12-17-09, 18:39

Hahahahaha these girls all carry them 49mm condoms :)
(the finger condoms) LOLI had a couple of ladies over for fun late last night and when I tossed them the condom bag I keep next to my bed, one said, "Are those the big ones?" I said yeah, and she asked if I didn't mind if she took a couple with her.

You just gotta love these enterprising women!

Member #3428

12-17-09, 21:21

So guess I am better off asking for "Generic Cialis". Time will show...

Yup, ask for generic cialis... I am aware that the pharmacy past soi 4, two of them between soi 4 and JW had good stock of med's in general.

Member #3428

12-17-09, 21:25

Hahahahaha these girls all carry them 49mm condoms :)
(the finger condoms) LOL

They pull them out and when they try to apply I just laugh and say no fucking way is that thing going to work so you better go get the bigger ones. When left with no choice we usually end up with breakage right away.

Member #3428

12-17-09, 21:28

I can only speak for myself but I was advised my first time using Viagra to take half a pill, that a whole one might be too much. I did and it was fine, it worked. Months later I did use an entire pill and experienced a headache, which was the typical symptom I was told I might get. I guess some do, some not. This aspect has been talked a lot about over on the Phnom Penh thread in the past, it's pretty common knowledge -- there at least. Dunno if it's common knowledge worldwide or in Thailand. Just going by what I've experienced and heard myself. What I did was just cut the pill in half with a knife. With the jelly sachets, no idea. Haven't tried those yet. If I took half a sachet and saved the rest for later, wouldnt' there be a risk of bacteria?

We all SHOULD visit a doctor and we all SHOULD experiment with what works best for us. Flushing is common. Cramping is common on Cialis. There are many side affects for various items. But for many half a pill does little for them. It also depends on how frequently you take them, if just on short holiday or over time etc...

Stew2

12-17-09, 23:14

Sainter21

12-18-09, 00:05

Yup, ask for generic cialis... I am aware that the pharmacy past soi 4, two of them between soi 4 and JW had good stock of med's in general.

Yep, got some Apcalis from here (the larger pharmacy) a few weeks ago.

Global Surfer

12-18-09, 02:25

I can only speak for myself but I was advised my first time using Viagra to take half a pill, that a whole one might be too much. I did and it was fine, it worked. Months later I did use an entire pill and experienced a headache, which was the typical symptom I was told I might get. I guess some do, some not. This aspect has been talked a lot about over on the Phnom Penh thread in the past, it's pretty common knowledge -- there at least. Dunno if it's common knowledge worldwide or in Thailand. Just going by what I've experienced and heard myself. What I did was just cut the pill in half with a knife. With the jelly sachets, no idea. Haven't tried those yet. If I took half a sachet and saved the rest for later, wouldnt' there be a risk of bacteria?Viagra is available in 25mg, 50mg and 100mg strengths, therefore, half tablet does not mean any thing. There will be big difference in half tablet of 25 mg and half of 100mg.

Goldern rule is to use the minimum effective dose and as such you should start with 25mg. In my expereince people rarely need more than 25 mg.

You must consult a physician if you have an underlying heart problem or hight blood pressure. It auguments the effect of anti hypertensive drugs. You should also consult a phsyician if you have underlying liver and kidney problem.

If you really need it 24 by 7 then you should consider Cialis 2.5mg Once a day. Please note this is not the usual Cialis 10mg or 20mg. Again, I would recommen starting with half of 2.5 (i.e. 1,25) and increasing to a maximum of 5mg

M P Lurker

12-18-09, 02:40

Your comment on the jelly has me a little confused as Kamagra Jelly is the same dosage that is in pill form but is absorbed faster into the blood stream. As such if you take it right before you hit up an MP the jelly will react faster for MOST people. Most folks pop the entire pill or satchel. I do not use Kamagra jelly or pill so do not know how it would affect me and I'm not sure how much you would consume but for most folks take an entire satchel or pill for four hours or so of punting around....

Apcalis Jelly is in full 20 mg form which is overkill for repeated use for most people as you should only be popping 10 mg after your fist day dosage of 20 mg (again for most folks).
Sorry if I have been confusing. I will try to explain.

When the original Viagra pills first came out, they were available in 25mg, 50 or 100s and were very expensive.
Many people would only need 25mg tablet and 100mg would be very strong indeed and cause severe side effects.

As 100mg tablets were only a little more expensive than 25mg tablets, it was much cheaper to buy 100mg tablets regardless of the dose required and break the tablets up into small pieces.

Recently some mates asked me to get some "pinapple jelly" for them from Thailand and take home for them to try. Unfortunately they didn't know any better (didn't research on internet first), and took the whole sachet of 100mg kamgra (another brand of Sindenafil). They reported extreme headaches and side effects as they were not used to the stuff.

I understand that jelly acts more quickly and maybe better for guys who cannot afford to wait 30-60 mins for Kamagra tablets to take effect. But I do believe that an entire sachet will be a big overdose for many people who do have great problems with erections in the first place or are not used to it. Perhaps they just want the erection to last longer than normal or attempt marathon sex like the rabbits of this world. :D

Its not very difficult to take a small piece of a tablet, but it is messy to keep the remiander of a sachet that is not empty. I think many people will find tablets more practical, but maybe keep some jelly sachets in case of urgent emergency :)

As Cialis (Apcalis/Tadafil - sorry proibably spelled wrong) is intended for those having lots of sex over 24 to 48 hours (implying not an emergency situation), but is slower to take effect than Viagra (1-2 hours delay), I see little point in the jelly form except for those who cannot swallow pills or just prefer it to pills. But perhaps a 20mg sachet of Apcalis is not an overdose like 100mg of Kamagra jelly would be.

I believe that Cialis/Apcalis pills do not taste bad like Kamagra/Viagra and are therefore chewable for those who don't like to swallow pills.

NicFrenchy

12-18-09, 03:31

Member #3428

12-18-09, 04:13

Interesting talks about enhancement drugs...

So let's say a young guy would like to try and see how this could increase performance? Not that I have problems, but I am just interested in comments any other mongers would have.

It would probably hurt you. You could get a hard on for hours but you would not be able to complete any more transactions then normal. So if you can usually shoot three you'd still shoot three but you'd potentially be hard for hours.

If you took Cialis and a pretty girl walked by for the next 24 or more hours you could potentially be standing at attention for little reason. Enjoy your trips on the BTS with your briefcase over your pants :D

Trust me, you are a few years younger then me and the LAST thing you want to do is take them until you have to. There is no pleasure, atleast for me, in being ready for action but unable to pull the trigger. And there are some potential long term side affects that you don't want to risk by starting to take them when you are too young.

Cunning Stunt

12-18-09, 04:28

And there are some potential long term side affects that you don't want to risk by starting to take them when you are too young.

Short term effects can be pretty drastic as well ....

Priapism (constant long term erection) can cause blood supply problems leading to gangrene of the penis which necessitates ....:eek:

Put it this way, you will come out of it with a fine soprano voice!

Dinghy

12-18-09, 04:41

Kamagra (zeeagra, seagra, etc) has a shorter time span. Usually it's about a 3 hour "half life". (half of the effectivity is gone after 3 hours, and so on, and so on... - YMMV)

Unless you are 18 you won't have much of a problem with vitamin V (or K or whatever other variation there is).

Problem is that with the "kids" the effect is just recreational - like the energizer bunny - just keep going and going...

(notice nothing said about coming, just going... recharge time isn't affected by these vitamins.)

Booey

12-18-09, 06:11

Interesting talks about enhancement drugs.

So let's say a young guy would like to try and see how this could increase performance? Not that I have problems, but I am just interested in comments any other mongers would have.I am in my mid-forties and don't suffer from ED, but I did take half a Cialis once, just to check it out. I found that it really helped my "recharge" time after finishing, it was like I was 18 again! I will also say that TKTV is right, I found myself "sporting wood" from the mere thought of having sex. It was a very strange 48 hours or so. I don't think I'll be using it again, hopefully, anytime soon.

NicFrenchy

12-18-09, 06:45

Priapism (constant long term erection) can cause blood supply problems leading to gangrene of the penis which necessitates ....:eek:

Put it this way, you will come out of it with a fine soprano voice!

ok, Well, at least this has the merit of being VERY CLEAR!! :D
I think it creeped me out enough not to want to indulge in these pills any longer.

Thanks LOL

Bounce Around

12-18-09, 07:03

Hey Nic,

Just checked in on the forum as I will be in BKK next week for two days prior to the new year.

I'm your age and I have tried cialis as well as a Chinese generic. Haven't experienced any of these side effects that are mentioned. You don't walk around with a hard on even if you are seeing bikini clad brazillian hotties and dreaming about being in them. Though you can be ready to go in an instant.

That just be my physiology, though. I did feel more flush with a 20mg cialis and a bit of lower back pain. But that could just be due to the strength of the drug as that is all the pharmacies in DXB carry.

I don't know if the other opinons carry any medical background. But in just a purely recreational way it couldn't hurt. Not something I would necessarily pop for a MP or flower shop action. But if you were planning on a weekend of fun with freebie MILF, then.

Betong

12-18-09, 07:18

Short term effects can be pretty drastic as well ....There was a notorious case of a young German guy a few years ago who took 400mg of Viagra. The docs here couldn't do anything so he had to be flown back to Germany on Lufthansa with a pillow in his lap. Never heard how that one turned out but the prognosis couldn't be good after a 24-hour woody . . . .

Mr Jetsetter

12-18-09, 08:29

I have used Viagra off and on for a few years now (50mg doses) and have NEVER experienced a prolonged erection. I don't believe priapism is an issue for the overwhelming majority of Viagra users. I generally use it when I'm mongering in foreign locales and attempting to cut a swath thru a significant percentage of the female population, indulging in 3-somes, fighting off travel fatigue, countering the effects of the good local brews, etc.

In general, I only experience mild side effects when taking it for the first time after a few months off. After a day or so, only Little Jetsetter seems to notice its effects. I compare using Viagra to a great ball player like Barry Bonds taking steroids. He would have been able to hit over 500 homers anyway without any performance enhancers, but ended up with over 700 with a little help. I was probably batting .980 with regard to getting it up before ever taking Viagra, and I'm batting a perfect percentage now with a bunch of additional great memories.

Wendella

12-18-09, 09:00

Oldian

12-18-09, 09:48

One of my friends told me to check at Bar Su (1st floor, street level) at the Sheraton.

Went on Wednesday, which is ladies night, so there was a good size crowd there. Ladies are eligible to buy inexpensive wine and champagne by the glass.

The circular bar was filled with women, all going out of their way to smile at you. They won't approach you but the smiles are their invitation to come talk to them.

All the women were very well dressed in sexy dresses and every one I talked to spoke excellent English. I wasn't impressed though. Most of the women were in their 30's and I'd say most of them were 6's and 7's. If not for the nice outfits, I wouldn't even give any of them a second look.

To add insult to injury, all these mediocre, borderline fuck candidates were asking for the moon. One told me 5, 000 for ST and the other quoted me 3, 000. Fuck that.

I doubt I will ever go again. Tuna fish at caviar prices is not my idea of a good deal.Regarding the tuna, very well put. I had the same experience in places like soi 33, Spassos, and other such joints which many claim to be of "higher standard. " And just to show you that they are not necessarily different depending on which locale they are in: the other night I was outside of Nana about 1am, very very dead, especially for how close to the New Year it is. At any rate, 4 girls showed up out of a taxi, young, sexy, and attracting a lot of attention. One in particular had a crowd of guys around her in a flash. I was watching and saw her wave off a number of guys. I nosed in to see what was going on, and I find that she can't speak a word of English and is more interested in her friends than the guys hitting on her. I smile at one of her friends and she smiles at me, I ask her for short time for 1000 and she says fine, I then ask if her friend can come along and she asks and the friend agrees and off we go. Back at my place, I find out that they both work in Thaniya in a Japanese club. Neither can speak much Japanese, so they say it has been tough getting customers. Turns out that the very hot friend has come to Nana for the first time. At any rate, an excellent time had by all, and they asked if they could come visit again. I chuckled to think that these were two very attractive 19 year olds who normally get 3000 ST and yet here I was getting some excellent mileage at a very fair price. Don't overpay, be patient, be nice, and look for caviar on sale.

M P Lurker

12-18-09, 14:51

Short term effects can be pretty drastic as well ....

Priapism (constant long term erection) can cause blood supply problems leading to gangrene of the penis which necessitates ....:eek:

Put it this way, you will come out of it with a fine soprano voice!
LOL. I am glad you explained priaprism. I had never heard of it.

At first I thought that "wanking makes you blind" was an old wives tale, as I had fantastic eyesight, but these days I am getting rather long sighted so perhaps all that wanking has caught up with me. :D

M P Lurker

12-18-09, 14:56

I compare using Viagra to a great ball player like Barry Bonds taking steroids. He would have been able to hit over 500 homers anyway without any performance enhancers, but ended up with over 700 with a little help. I was probably batting .980 with regard to getting it up before ever taking Viagra, and I'm batting a perfect percentage now with a bunch of additional great memories.
That's correct. When Viagra first came out, it really took off in the gay male sector as they wanted to be able to fuck lots of partners per night and increase stamina. I am sure they screwing a lot already. I first heard of it in a song called the "Viagra song", part of a stage review put on by QANTAS stewards.

M P Lurker

12-18-09, 14:58

Oops.

Just checked. My Viagra pills appear to be 100mg. Actually the ones I have now are Kamagra, but same size I had before so must be that. No wonder I got a headache.

The Cialis I have say 20mg on the package.
Be careful about equating the number of milligrams, as these products (Cialis and Viagra) have ingredients that are different and have different effects, even though obviously in the same family of substances.

M P Lurker

12-18-09, 16:52

Can you tell me the exact brand? I assume you are referring to condom size 54cm? Because almost all Durex I see here in 7 Elevens etc. seem to be 52-53 only.
http://www.condomshopping24.com/product-th-356737-1527584-Durex+Comfort.html?lang=en

Durex Comfort are 54mm and avail in most 7eleven stores in Sukhumwit bar areas or Silom near Patpong.

The pack is dark blue but has some pinkish swirls on it.
See web site above shows its colouring.

Opebo

12-18-09, 17:33

Priapism (constant long term erection) can cause blood supply problems leading to gangrene of the penis which necessitates ....:eek:

Put it this way, you will come out of it with a fine soprano voice!

Actually no, the merely chop off the penis, not the testicales. So you would still have your bass, and your sexual urge, but no way to satisfy it.

I used to get priapisms years ago during much of my late 20s through mid-30s - sometimes they would last 2-3 hours, but thankfully never the full 4 that the warn will lead to permanent damage. Very painful and strange, but in my case unrelated to viagra as I hadn't taken it yet. I think they were from excessive masturbation.

Pekkakoo

12-18-09, 17:34

http://www.condomshopping24.com/product-th-356737-1527584-Durex+Comfort.html?lang=en

Durex Comfort are 54mm and avail in most 7eleven stores in Sukhumwit bar areas or Silom near Patpong.

The pack is dark blue but has some pinkish swirls on it.

See web site above shows its colouring.Actually I have a pack of Durex Comfort but on the front side there is also in English size 56 mm, which is maybe just a little too big for me. My favorite has been Durex Fetherlite, which I think is thinner than average condoms. On the back side there are thai characters only and number 52.5, which I think refers to size 52.5mm? However they feel considerably bigger than standard 52mm:s in my home country so I don't know maybe Durex has its own size standards. On some web sites some sex shops that sell condoms online say that at least some Durex models are wider than the nominal width from the bottom. So who knows, difficult choices. If it really is 52.5mm then I think that 54mm would be perfect for me as Fetherlite a just a little tight perhaps, but still ok but I haven't seen any packs that have the number 54 on them.

Maybe I should try Carrefour or BigC if they have a wider selection than 7elevens, Tops and Villa Market.

Pita123

12-18-09, 18:08

I'm quite happy with the 52mm Durex Performa. I first found them during an emergency minibar raid and am only sorry they don't sell 12-packs of them in Bangkok.

I also took a full sacket of Sindenafil jelly once. The only time I've tried any of these drugs. All I got was a bad headache that disturbed any ability to get it up.

Applesauce

12-18-09, 22:00

Interesting talks about enhancement drugs...

So let's say a young guy would like to try and see how this could increase performance? Not that I have problems, but I am just interested in comments any other mongers would have.I'm a young guy (late 20s) and have tried Viagra recreationally. For me personally, I used to take 100 mg pills (this was 2-3 years back when they were expensive) and use a pill cutter to get them down to 12. 5 mg pieces (one 100 mg pill split into eight). This is the difference between using enhancement drugs for fun and using them because you need to. I have no problems attaining and maintaining an erection, and even 12. 5 mg was more than enough for me. I had the usual responses of a flushed face and light headache. Over time it changed to just the flushed face and drowsiness after a few hours.

As for performance, it made me last a fair bit longer, which I've read is a common result from enhancement drugs, but people should know that this is because the drugs desensitize you a bit. I've read reports where guys are fucking girls for an hour before cumming and seriously people, that's not enjoyable for yourself or for the girl. When I climax while on viagra it doesn't feel as euphoric as when I'm not using it.orgasm tends to feel more like a goal than something of pleasure. And I think because of that I don't cum as much when on viagra (not that I'm Peter North, but normally I can get pretty close).

Another effect is that I can maintain my erection post-climax. It's like there's no cool down period, I can go fucking again almost immediately. The bad however is that the second time takes a lot longer to climax, and in combination with the loss of sensitivity it's not as enjoyable as sex should B.

Overall, I would advise against enhancement drugs for guys if you don't need them. They can definitely help you in attaining quantity, but not quality. Reading the reports on ISG and other forums where older guys (50s, 60s) are taking (needing?) the enhancement drugs and then fucking for an hour without climaxing tells me that the drugs have the same effects regardless of the age of the user.

D Cap1

12-18-09, 23:48

M P Lurker

12-19-09, 01:55

Actually I have a pack of Durex Comfort but on the front side there is also in English size 56 mm, which is maybe just a little too big for me. My favorite has been Durex Fetherlite, which I think is thinner than average condoms. On the back side there are thai characters only and number 52.5, which I think refers to size 52.5mm? However they feel considerably bigger than standard 52mm:s in my home country so I don't know maybe Durex has its own size standards. On some web sites some sex shops that sell condoms online say that at least some Durex models are wider than the nominal width from the bottom. So who knows, difficult choices. If it really is 52.5mm then I think that 54mm would be perfect for me as Fetherlite a just a little tight perhaps, but still ok but I haven't seen any packs that have the number 54 on them.

Maybe I should try Carrefour or BigC if they have a wider selection than 7elevens, Tops and Villa Market.
I must admit that since using Comfort, I haven't read the fine print lately, so the size number could have changed slightly, due to correcting slightly false advertising. However, they used to read 54mm.
They are thinner than average and have a slightly bulbous shape rather than straight.
Carrefour and Big C may not have them as cater mainly for Thais. But plenty of 7s and pharmacies in mongering regions have them. Go to 7 store on Soi 23 and I am sure they will have them.

Tiger 888

12-19-09, 03:56

I must admit that since using Comfort, I haven't read the fine print lately, so the size number could have changed slightly, due to correcting slightly false advertising. However, they used to read 54mm.
They are thinner than average and have a slightly bulbous shape rather than straight.
Carrefour and Big C may not have them as cater mainly for Thais. But plenty of 7s and pharmacies in mongering regions have them. Go to 7 store on Soi 23 and I am sure they will have them.
They are shaped, the head is 63mm, right thereafter 52 mm, expanding to the end to 56 mm. They are 54 somewhere in the middle (Which is the width=half circumfence. The diameter is only almost 2/3 of the width, head: 40, right thereafter: 33, at the end: 36)

The best condom Durex makes in that size is called Maximum Love and made only for the US market (The one in Thailand is smaller) - the difference is in the lubricant which is silk smooth and it is slightly thinner (I cut one open and measured 0.05-0.06 - The Comfort which sells in the US as "Extra Senitive" and in the UK as "Elite" is 0.07-0.08 )

I just ordered a large pack of Maximum Love from the US. If some senior members want, i can mail you some from Hong Kong. Just PM me.

Wendella

12-19-09, 06:23

They are shaped, the head is 63mm, right thereafter 52 mm, expanding to the end to 56 mm. They are 54 somewhere in the middle (Which is the width=half circumfence. The diameter is only almost 2/3 of the width, head: 40, right thereafter: 33, at the end: 36)

The best condom Durex makes in that size is called Maximum Love and made only for the US market (The one in Thailand is smaller) - the difference is in the lubricant which is silk smooth and it is slightly thinner (I cut one open and measured 0.05-0.06 - The Comfort which sells in the US as "Extra Senitive" and in the UK as "Elite" is 0.07-0.08 )

I just ordered a large pack of Maximum Love from the US. If some senior members want, i can mail you some from Hong Kong. Just PM me.

What did you use to measure? (not a joke, I'm serious)

M P Lurker

12-19-09, 07:49

They are 54 somewhere in the middle (Which is the width=half circumfence. The diameter is only almost 2/3 of the width, head: 40, right thereafter: 33, at the end: 36)

I guess it depends if your dick is very round or very flat. :D

Pekkakoo

12-19-09, 07:55

On an UK site they have the following info on Durex Fetherlite:

Length: 205mm
Width at base: 56mm
Width at base of head: 52mm
Width at head: 63mm
Thickness: 0.055mm

But who knows, maybe the thai version here in BKK is smaller? The pack says it is 52.5mm but probably wider that somewhere. Why is it this hard for a consumer to find the perfectly matching size? Durex have same products under different names in different countries and also their sizes may vary so it is difficult if not impossible to find accurate information on each product.

Nvslim

12-19-09, 10:21

On an UK site they have the following info on Durex Fetherlite:

Length: 205mm
Width at base: 56mm
Width at base of head: 52mm
Width at head: 63mm
Thickness: 0.055mm

Wouldn't it just be easier to buy trash bags and a bungi cord?

Slim

Tiger 888

12-19-09, 12:28

What did you use to measure? (not a joke, I'm serious)
I used a tool that we normally use to measure the thickness of paper.

@ MP lurker: Sure if your dick has been beaten flat, it may get close to the
width rather than the diameter. (It's a joke, I'm not serious)

@ Nvslim: Use whatever you feel comfortable with, as long as it does the job for you.

@ Pekkakoo: You guess right. Durex makes different sizes for different folks.

Rocksoff

12-19-09, 15:34

He also wants lovely ladies to attend to him while he (we) take the full spa treatment.

You mean like Alexis in Jakarta :-)
I don't know of something like that in Bangkok.
I suspect the closest might be an upscale soapy, e.g. La Belle or Utopia ..

Mangofan

12-19-09, 16:41

I must admit that since using Comfort, I haven't read the fine print lately, so the size number could have changed slightly, due to correcting slightly false advertising. However, they used to read 54mm.
They are thinner than average and have a slightly bulbous shape rather than straight.
Carrefour and Big C may not have them as cater mainly for Thais. But plenty of 7s and pharmacies in mongering regions have them. Go to 7 store on Soi 23 and I am sure they will have them.

You are correct - Durex Comfort measures at 54mm. They are quite snug on me, and rather thin, but in a pinch they do the job. I have no idea where to get bigger condoms in this country. I live here, so last time I went home I went to Costco and bought 3 boxes of TROJAN-ENZ condoms. 10 bucks buys you a box of 40. They are slightly thicker than the Durex but not by much - and they are longer so very comfortable (at least on me).

BionicMan

12-19-09, 17:03

What did you use to measure? (not a joke, I'm serious)
There are tools specifically made to measure microns, ie 1/1000 of a mm, used in the plastic film industry.
Adding seriousness to what seems a joke, I am wondering, as I am not an expert, whether the lubricant (film/layer) has an influence on the thickness. but this risks to become a bit too much of an analyses :)

Member #2041

12-19-09, 18:09

There are tools specifically made to measure microns, ie 1/1000 of a mm, used in the plastic film industry.
Adding seriousness to what seems a joke, I am wondering, as I am not an expert, whether the lubricant (film/layer) has an influence on the thickness. but this risks to become a bit too much of an analyses :)

Rather than analysis paralysis, this situation clearly calls for a little collection of empirical data through trial and error.

Theant

12-19-09, 18:10

...........
Now, I need some advice about BKK. I will be arriving in BKK with a farang friend after a very long flight from the USA. He wants to go to a full out spa with hot tubs, steam room, etc. He also wants lovely ladies to attend to him while he (we) take the full spa treatment....
Try:

Spa4 @Sena
391/1 Soi Siriumporn, Phaholyothin 32 Rd., Ladyao, Chatuchak, Bangkok 10900
Tel : 0-2941-8064

Spa4 @Ekamai
53 Soi Sukhumvit 63 (Ekamai), Klongton-nua, Wattana, Bangkok 10110
Tel : 02-726-9909, 08-3989-7919

Website : http://www.spa4th.com
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The One - Navamin
30/225 Moo 10, Navamin Rd., Klonghum, Bungkhum, Bangkok 10230
Tel : 0-2947-9066-7
Fax :
Website : http://www.the1navamin.com
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http://www.cckspa.com/

Usually at these spa:
hand job + traditional massage 1 hour 550
topless 500
bottom less 500
other "special service" not all girls available

You can try also:
Tharn Thong
675 Mengjai Junction, Huaykwang , Bangkok 10320
Tel : 0-2690-5614-5

This is more a thai massage, but surely you can find a lot of girl available for "special" massage, all behind a fishbowl

Stiffoak 571

12-19-09, 21:31

Canyon

12-20-09, 02:13

. Anyway, I know of plenty of massage shops where he can take care of his most basic needs but I really don't know of a totally luxiourious, full service spa that also has ladies to flatten out the rough spots. Of course having ones basic needs taken care of is important as well. Price is not the biggest consideration here, rather I am looking for a luxury spa with lovely ladies that does a full spa treatment for guys and, pardon my political incorrectness, is not a gay bathouse. Any advice would be helpful.

I would try LaBelle's.

Golfinho

12-20-09, 02:24

Try:

Spa4 @Sena
391/1 Soi Siriumporn, Phaholyothin 32 Rd., Ladyao, Chatuchak, Bangkok 10900
Tel : 0-2941-8064

Spa4 @Ekamai
53 Soi Sukhumvit 63 (Ekamai), Klongton-nua, Wattana, Bangkok 10110
Tel : 02-726-9909, 08-3989-7919

Website : http://www.spa4th.com
**********************************************************
The One - Navamin
30/225 Moo 10, Navamin Rd., Klonghum, Bungkhum, Bangkok 10230
Tel : 0-2947-9066-7
Fax :
Website : http://www.the1navamin.com
**********************************************************
http://www.cckspa.com/

Usually at these spa:
hand job + traditional massage 1 hour 550
topless 500
bottom less 500
other "special service" not all girls available

You can try also:
Tharn Thong
675 Mengjai Junction, Huaykwang , Bangkok 10320
Tel : 0-2690-5614-5

This is more a thai massage, but surely you can find a lot of girl available for "special" massage, all behind a fishbowlAfter a 'long flight' with the arrival to Suhkomvit at about, say 1:00 a.m. are these options open at that time? thanks

M P Lurker

12-20-09, 02:58

They are shaped, the head is 63mm, right thereafter 52 mm, expanding to the end to 56 mm. They are 54 somewhere in the middle (Which is the width=half circumfence. The diameter is only almost 2/3 of the width, head: 40, right thereafter: 33, at the end: 36)

Bought a pack of "Comfort" yesterday near to Soi Cowboy, but found this particular pack had 56mm printed on the front and "Comfort" was printed only in Thai script. The English bit said "Easy on". The word "Comfort" did appear on the side of the pack.
Not sure if all Comfort packs are the same.

Juicyclamlover

12-20-09, 05:55

Arrived BKK at 7. 20am on a Tuesday from my 2 week holiday in London wondering if I will be able to check into my hotel early.

No worries, arrived at the Ibis Nana, Soi 4 and straight in for a s**t, shower and shave. 1000 THB a night all in, pre-booked before my trip to London, small rooms, new and clean and suits the purpose, close to the action.

On my way back from the Embassy decided to have a quick beer in Strikers to check out the girls. Some old favourites there and one or two new ones.

2 beers later decided on a visit to Aviva's, Soi 8, always go there as I am usually staying around the corner. Great girls there, IMHO.

Booked a 90 min with my usual girl and it was hammer and tongs, just what I needed after 2 weeks in London. Full service, BBBJ+CIM, lots of FK and multiple positions, no anal as it's not my thing.

Left there badly needing another beer, so back to Strikers.

Chatting to a girl and asked to BF her LT but she said she couldn't, so I left it as I didn't want ST straight after my session in Aviva's.

Called a girl I've seen 3 times before when in BKK who works at Rainbow 4, the best in NP IMHO, stacks of girls and always busy.

She was up for it so had a wander around the bars, no bars were busy, until about 11pm and then popped into R4, I had just got my beer when she walked up to me, looking the dogs bollox.

Paid the BF straight away.

She had a mate in the audience, so she came over and the 3 of us had a night out in NP, ended up having some food about 2am on the Suk' Road and saw lots of girls looking for business, some very nice too.

Back to the hotel for some serious shagging and boy it was, got to sleep about 5. 30am after 3 rounds of action.

Woke up to that lovely sound of your girl slurping away on the end of old JT, I just love it.

Said I would pay her BF for the next 2 nights and she called the Mamasan to let her know.

Went to Bangkok Beat one evening and enjoyed the band, lots of nice looking FLs in and the Hillary bar in Soi 4 on the same side of the Soi as NP, which had a fun live band in on my last night.

I had a meal at the 7 Seas seafood restaurant in Soi 4 and also at the Mango Bistro in CentralWorld and both were very good indeed. The Mango has a small terrace so it's nice for an early cocktail and to watch BKK light up at night, also they have live band later in the evening.

Then it was off to Mor Chit to get the bus back to Isan life and day to day reality.

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Westsider

12-20-09, 06:05

What did you use to measure? (not a joke, I'm serious)

Well, use a cuntographer of course 8-)

Pita123

12-20-09, 07:27

I would try LaBelle's.
La Belle has a full spa treatment or just the soapy experience?

M P Lurker

12-20-09, 07:45

La Belle has a full spa treatment or just the soapy experience?
Its just a soapy but with Karaoke and steam cubicle in each room. I think the girls won't be knowledgeable in typical "spa" type stuff.

However, I'm weird. I like massage performed by soft tits, mouth or pussy. Spa treatments don't appeal.

Member #3428

12-20-09, 07:56

He wants to go to a full out spa with hot tubs, steam room, etc. He also wants lovely ladies to attend to him while he (we) take the full spa treatment.

OK I'm following this also but I'm confused... he wants like a professional massage, steam sauna, a whirlpool, and a girl to suck him off while he's in the whirlpool? Full "real" spa treatment with sex? Sex being full service or blow job or hand job?

I mean Asian Herbal gave an overpriced massage and the girls were ugly but offered an extra. King and I I have managed to get a HJ at. The soapies are not what i would consider a REAL massage at all. But the girl doing the HJ at King and I was nothing to look at. Did manage to get further then that once there but it's generally overpriced for the servies if you go the outer sois you and not as "clean" you can get a better real massage.

There's the scrub and HJ on soi 22 but don't think you want that... But that is relaxing atleast to me. Any of the Soapies I think fail in your "massage" area but pass the sex part. Any massage joint I think will fail in your sex area. I hate to mention this is maybe contact Aey at Annies. The rooms are not great, no steam, no whirlpool but maybe there's a girl who can give a semi pro massage and sex there.

La Belle is surely not what I would consider a massage to get the kinks out, only get One kink out of my little head...

I know some massage girls that will come home and sex with me but at my place not at work. So I guess I'd like to find this Nirvana you're looking for also :D

M P Lurker

12-20-09, 11:41

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You can try also:
Tharn Thong
675 Mengjai Junction, Huaykwang , Bangkok 10320
Tel : 0-2690-5614-5

This is more a thai massage, but surely you can find a lot of girl available for "special" massage, all behind a fishbowl
Although the official address seems to say "Mengjai Junction", its actually located about 400m North at Ratachada Niwet Soi 21, next to Selene.

LittleBigMan

12-20-09, 13:46

I hate to change the topic from the Viagra et. Al. Posts, but I need some advice. Perhaps I should have posted in the Travel Announcement section or the Massage Section, but I will risk a stern word from the administrator.

I live in CM and occasionally contribute a post. I often respond with private messages from people posting on the CM section.

Now, I need some advice about BKK. I will be arriving in BKK with a farang friend after a very long flight from the USA. He wants to go to a full out spa with hot tubs, steam room, etc. He also wants lovely ladies to attend to him while he (we) take the full spa treatment. I think he is remembering an old MASH episode where the docs went to Tokyo and ended up in a hot tub with a couple of Japanese beauties. Anyway, I know of plenty of massage shops where he can take care of his most basic needs but I really don't know of a totally luxiourious, full service spa that also has ladies to flatten out the rough spots. Of course having ones basic needs taken care of is important as well. Price is not the biggest consideration here, rather I am looking for a luxury spa with lovely ladies that does a full spa treatment for guys and, pardon my political incorrectness, is not a gay bathouse. Any advice would be helpful.

Although many places listed to answer his question. Are these places similar to the ones in Hong Kong prior to them mostly going to giving H.J. to bring in the customers. The type of Saunas that caters to men only that provide a large common area that provides hot showers, soap, shampoo, tooth brushes, combs, has a common hot water wirlpool and ice pool while you watch T.V., includes a common sauna and steam room. Also within this area you can get a skin rub down and when you are done in this area you get you slippers, and outfit and head to the lounge area to eat, get a haircut etc... and when you are ready ask for your 2 hours massage. When you are done back down to the common area again for a re-run. A good 4 hours plus to get your spirits back up.

As of today I have never found or heard of a place in Bangkok or Pattaya! although there was a report back in August of 2008? that reported something very close to what I mentioned above! Are any of these listed fit what I had just mentioned?

LBM

Member #4285

12-20-09, 14:21

Hi, the Kid is back for more drama!

Sorry KTV that I did not contact you when I was in Manila. I was robbed (and druged?) on the hotel room second night in Angeles (after landing on Clark) and then went miserable (falled in love) with a girl on Cebu after that. Now im just arrived to BKK to find out my "girl" I hooked up with last time has started to work in a Japanese KTV club in patpong.. and I think she dont want to see me. Good fore me maybe, then I can see me around more then last time I were here..

Anyone feels for a beer just let me know. Maybe Ill go to LL and disturbe Mr G for a hour or two. Im cheep charlie and staying in Modelink on Sukhumvit soi 4. Girlfriendly, clean, big rooms, cabel TV, kingsize bed, AC, free Wifi and all for only 700/night. Stayed here last time I were in BKK.

Cheers :D

King Porn

12-20-09, 14:51

Hi

I am staying at the May Fair Marriot in Bangkok. I will be here for another 3 days.

Guys could anyone please direct me to any places of interest nearby? Any good massage places or fish bowls or incall facilities.

Am totally new to this forum and am depending on some direction from seniors here. Since I am new to Bangkok I have no clue wherre to go.

Would be thankful and grateful for any help / support extended.

Thanks in advance

Cheers

KP

Dextro Sol

12-20-09, 19:06

Hi
I am staying at the May Fair Marriot in Bangkok. I will be here for another 3 days.

A little bit too late for tonight, if you dont want an outcall... there are a few who offer 24/7... You could try one of these:

http://www.sabaisabaimassage.com/p1.html
http://2ladybkk.web.fc2.com/en/index.html

there are propably more places, but these two are the first that appears in my mind.

For tomorrow... check our Mick's map here:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF
8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=
13.741386,100.570564&spn=0.055444,0.083599&z=14

If link doesn't work.... copy all text above and paste into browser

or just head towards Annies, Eden, Tulip, Snow White or Mango... you will find them all in the map

[Edit link]

Member #3428

12-20-09, 21:54

Hi, the Kid is back for more drama! Sorry KTV that I did not contact you when I was in Manila.

You're too much... I'll be there Jan 3.... commit yourself to a hospital for two weeks until my arrival then I'll make sure you get laid (by a girl)... finally....

Bat Wings

12-21-09, 07:59

Thanks a ton mate. Hope atleast some of these are close to my hotel. Would rather go for a quickie without others realising it.

A little bit too late for tonight, if you dont want an outcall... there are a few who offer 24/7... You could try one of these:

http://www.sabaisabaimassage.com/p1.html
http://2ladybkk.web.fc2.com/en/index.html

there are propably more places, but these two are the first that appears in my mind.

For tomorrow... check our Mick's map here:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF
8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=
13.741386,100.570564&spn=0.055444,0.083599&z=14

If link doesn't work.... copy all text above and paste into browser

or just head towards Annies, Eden, Tulip, Snow White or Mango... you will find them all in the map

[Edit link]

Pita123

12-21-09, 19:15

Although many places listed to answer his question. Are these places similar to the ones in Hong Kong prior to them mostly going to giving H.J. to bring in the customers. The type of Saunas that caters to men only that provide a large common area that provides hot showers, soap, shampoo, tooth brushes, combs, has a common hot water wirlpool and ice pool while you watch T.V., includes a common sauna and steam room. Also within this area you can get a skin rub down and when you are done in this area you get you slippers, and outfit and head to the lounge area to eat, get a haircut etc... and when you are ready ask for your 2 hours massage. When you are done back down to the common area again for a re-run. A good 4 hours plus to get your spirits back up.
This sounds like the Macau Sauna experiences I've read about.

Pita123

12-21-09, 19:18

Mr Enternational

12-21-09, 20:51

After a 'long flight' with the arrival to Suhkomvit at about, say 1:00 a.m. are these options open at that time? thanks
Nope. Your best bet at that time is free lance; soi or disco.

Bat Wings

12-22-09, 07:51

The links you posted are too good mate.

I am planning to be in Bangkok next week for 5 days with family and will be staying at the Amari Boulevard. I have been doing some research on where to go and thats when you put this up. I can see a lot of the places are pretty close to my hotel.

Cheers,

BW

LittleBigMan

12-22-09, 08:42

This sounds like the Macau Sauna experiences I've read about.

I have been to Macau many times but haven't been since the handover in I think 1999. and yes the Saunas I visited in Macau was very similar. When I use to visit Hong Kong this was pretty much what I spend my money on each holiday. Every other day I would visit the Sauna around 8 pm and leave around Midnight so relax head over to my favorite short time place and select a nice juicy China chick for a quicky and head back to my cheap hotel for a good night sleep!

The Hot tubs at the saunas were so hot it would burn anything off your dick and then jump into the Ice pool and it would bring LBM back to life again!

LBM

Theant

12-22-09, 09:32

I have been to Macau many times but haven't been since the handover in I think 1999. and yes the Saunas I visited in Macau was very similar. When I use to visit Hong Kong this was pretty much what I spend my money on each holiday. Every other day I would visit the Sauna around 8 pm and leave around Midnight so relax head over to my favorite short time place and select a nice juicy China chick for a quicky and head back to my cheap hotel for a good night sleep! ...
The place I posted are the closest (but very at a distance) thing to a Macau or China saunas I found in Bangkok, but not really comparable and satisfying experience.
I prefer use Air Asia frequent cheap offers and spent 1-2 days in Macau (very useful if you need a VISA run).

NicFrenchy

12-22-09, 10:24

Full service, BBBJ+CIM, lots of FK and multiple positions, no anal as it's not my thing.

Did you DFK before or After the CIM??? :D

Dextro Sol

12-22-09, 10:50

Did you DFK before or After the CIM??? :D

Have you never tried that Nic?? I experienced that at DD in Patts about a month ago... Kitty took my cum in her mouth and then went up and DFK me... interesting experience... and quite exciting... In other words she did cumsharing, not with the other girl, but with me...

Phuquer

12-22-09, 13:07

The place I posted are the closest (but very at a distance) thing to a Macau or China saunas I found in Bangkok, but not really comparable and satisfying experience.
I prefer use Air Asia frequent cheap offers and spent 1-2 days in Macau (very useful if you need a VISA run).I agree with you. Although I really enjoy Thailand, to get what he wants, the best place to go is Macau.

The round trip airfare on Air Asia is around $150US (probably less if you get a special fare that Air Asia always offers) and the sauna will probably run around $200US for the night. A bit pricey, but if you need to do a visa run, it might be worth it.

I have enjoyed my trips to Macau and now every trip I do to Thailand is via Macau.

Member #4285

12-23-09, 02:11

first time i try a massage in thailand as a matter of fact. now, i forgot the name but it's the last massage place on the left side on soi 4 (npe soi). a cute young girl is sitting outside and i ask how much for a massage. 400 for oil, but they have no soapy. so i pay and up we go. it really feels good when a woman gives massage..

she asks if i have gf and so and im thinking that this is a good sign. anyway, when 30 min is gone i turn around and the fun will start, thats what i think. she asks if i want something special and of course i say. 500 for hj, 1000 for bj and 1500 for fs. 1000 if im quick like 5 min because im to big (i think not, just normal for a white european even if all asian girls so far say that). but when she massage my stomach i get the oh ooooh feeling and have to send her out because i have to take a shit! (no real door to the toilet more like a western saloon door). she has to come back 2 times because i'm not ready yet. now its only 15 min left and now i start thinking more at the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (why do i like this place so much? because its a little dirty and nasty?) with 700 bj and 1100 fs.

[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) - call her self "pund"

she is a real good looking girl, slim and short with a nice firm butt. i pick her because i want fs but in the corner upstairs she say she has like one more day on her period and i can change girl if i want. i say no its okey, just go for a bj then. this time i go for the bbbj due to the most of the times with prostitutes i us condom, even on bj. a great bj even if i have to slow here down a little bit sometimes. i never asked before how much time a customer has in [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) so i asked her. 30 min she says with my cock in her mouth. i don't know how much time has passed but i ask her were she want me to finish. cim or cof? she prefer cim even if some girls say yes to cof. so i release a huge huge load that overflow her mouth. normally i have a lot but this time it was extreme.

when we walk out all the girls that is sitting outside always look at you like (how was it?). i was smiling like a clown. we men are so easy going, a good orgasm is all we need huh?

btw, i asked the mamasan (or who she is) behind the counter if the girls is tested for std, yes, every 2 months she replied. anyone knows if there's a law that wg has to be checked up or this is just the own house rules they put up? not that you really know that this is followed up or the girls bring back real papers..

just found this when i searched for "[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)":

dream is by far the "cream" of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s bangkok crop. a beautiful girl with a great attitude.
i will ask for her today =)

Tulan

12-23-09, 03:26

Anyone been to Spa 4 at Ekamai?

Goyave

12-23-09, 03:51

... Anyone knows if there's a law that WG has to be checked up or this is just the own house rules they put up? Not that you really know that this is followed up or the girls bring back real papers...

There's no law that requires this, and prostitution is still illegal in Thailand (even if this law is not really enforced).

And sure, a girl might provide a fake STD test result.

Eric Cartman

12-23-09, 03:52

Hit the Eden Club this week around 7.30pm.

Reasonable selection of girls -- only one or two real "lookers" but a happy giggly bunch of ladies.

Ended up picking a girl from the non-Anal side of the line and letting her pick a friend. Don't know names but both were maybe 4'9" -- one was 27 and the other was 20.

Pricing remains 1800 per lady (3600 total) for 90 mins in the room.

The facilities appear to have been upgraded / cleaned-up a bit since my last visit in May 2008. Rooms appeared nicer, bathroom facilities better. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it certainly seemed upgraded.

In the room, girls were incredibly playful. Washed me and proceeded to give me an amazing BBBJ with prostate massage. This proceeded onto prodding with various fingers and implements :) After some fucking, ended up blowing my load in one girls mouth before some recovery time. Round 2 was pretty much the same -- but clearly took me longer and boy did the girls work for it without complaining. I was really impressed. And drained!

Some hugging downstairs at the bar before I left. Nice.

Great time, would go back for sure. Remains one of my favorite places in BKK.

Location on a Soi across from the Nana BTS is just too convenient. Look for the Subway/Coffee World on the corner @ Sukhumvit, that's the street.

Sukhumvit Soi 7/1
(between Soi 7 and Soi 9, near Nana Skytrain Station, Exit 1)
adjacent to the World Inn Hotel

NicFrenchy

12-23-09, 04:01

Btw, I asked the mamasan (or who she is) behind the counter if the girls is tested for STD, yes, every 2 months she replied. Anyone knows if there's a law that WG has to be checked up or this is just the own house rules they put up? Not that you really know that this is followed up or the girls bring back real papers..

Look, you should stop worrying. There is no law.
If you want to be 100% safe, staying home and jerking off is a good idea.

Come on! live a little! There's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?

Member #3428

12-23-09, 04:06

Look, you should stop worrying. There is no law.
If you want to be 100% safe, staying home and jerking off is a good idea.

Come on! live a little! There's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?

Hell I take risks all the time and there are times of equipment damage even when not taking risks.

Even if no law I'd rather frequent a place that requires better testing for in house rules then places that do not have as stringent requirements.

Some clinic's are just rubber stamp clinic's and some establishments actually require ladies to go to certain places to ensure they do not get a rubber stamped result.

Member #4285

12-23-09, 04:44

come on! live a little! there's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?

ill do ill do. i take risks all the time, and sometimes stupid ones. i would without a hesitate even go up to space with a space shuttle were the odds to die is like 1 in 80. i had a gun pointed at me once (but without fire) and all the times i end up in strange situations that most folks would say is abnormal. a friend told me that's because you are a dynamic person and stuff happens around you all the time.

but, and that's a big but. i want a family in the future that's for sure. i reduce that possibilities a lot with a hiv infection. i'm not afraid to die because of the infection, i'm afraid to loose many possibilities that comes with an infection.

but in another hand, if i want to have a great bj like i had yesterday i must put this aside and enjoy and accept if i get infected. if i don't accept it, i must put on a condom. i can still enjoy a bj with condom if she's good. but oh, that bj yesterday felt good..

best would be if they find out a 2 sec check up with a tool or something. because, it disturbs me that some men walking around with hiv (and know about that) and have unprotected sex. girls should have the opportunity to be safe too. change job and change habit then someone now thinks. yeah, maybe..

even if no law i'd rather frequent a place that requires better testing for in house rules then places that do not have as stringent requirements.

some clinic's are just rubber stamp clinic's and some establishments actually require ladies to go to certain places to ensure they do not get a rubber stamped result.

what's your impression of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol? at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) they go (if they do) to sukhumvit (or was it bangkok hospital)?

NicFrenchy

12-23-09, 05:57

but in another hand, if i want to have a great bj like i had yesterday i must put this aside and enjoy and accept if i get infected. if i don't accept it, i must put on a condom. i can still enjoy a bj with condom if she's good. but oh, that bj yesterday felt good..

you'd have to be really unlucky to get hiv via a bbbj... and i'm not even sure it's possible.

it disturbs me that some men walking around with hiv (and know about that) and have unprotected sex. girls should have the opportunity to be safe too. change job and change habit then someone now thinks. yeah, maybe..

don't worry, it's not always the guys, many girls know they have hiv and still fuck guys bareback... most of them are freelancers/streetwalkers though.

what's your impression of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol? at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) they go (if they do) to sukhumvit (or was it bangkok hospital)?
i know sol girls have to go to bnh

Member #3428

12-23-09, 06:03

what's your impression of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol? at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) they go (if they do) to sukhumvit (or was it bangkok hospital)?

my impression? every time i go to a bj bar i end up nailing them fs (fully covered of course) or using two or three girls to get off.

Oldian

12-23-09, 07:24

Look, you should stop worrying. There is no law.

If you want to be 100% safe, staying home and jerking off is a good idea.

Come on! Live a little! There's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?So she gets tested yesterday and is clean. Today she goes with a guy and gets infected. Meaning within the next few weeks she will be at high infection/transmission and pass everything along before the next few months test reveals that she has something. The theory that the bars are "safe" because the girls get tested I think is a bit flawed.

Member #4698

12-23-09, 14:08

You'd have to be really unlucky to get HIV via a BBBJ... and I'm not even sure it's possible. I agree with you that a guy would have to be unlucky to get HIV from a BBBJ, however it is possible if 1. The girl has HIV and 2. Open sores (blood in the mouth). One study I read some time ago found that transmission from oral sex was around 7% if the two criteria above were met.

This is a direct quote from the CDC:

Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex. There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through

The lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);

The lining of the vagina or cervix;

The lining of the anus; or

Directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.

If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.

The risk of HIV transmission increases

If the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;

If the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or

If the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).So be careful out there.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

Member #4698

12-23-09, 14:41

Start with the probability of 7% risk of oral transmission if the girl has HIV and blood in the mouth.

Then ask what is the probability a girl from a high end BKK sauna for example has HIV? 1%?. 1%?. 001%? I don't know. For the sake of the calculation let's say it's 1% (which I think is high).

Then ask what is the probability that this HIV infected girl has open wounds in her mouth? 1%?. 1%?. 01%? Let's assume it is. 1% (which again I think is a high number).

Based on these assumptions, the risk of oral transmission would B. 0000007 or (rounded off) 1 hundred thousand of a percent. Which is statistically significant but rare. By comparison the chance of winning the lottery is roughly 1 in 14 million or 0. 00000007143.

And of course my calculations are largely based on pure assumption. The risk may be less.

My point is that there is a risk and it is significantly greater than zero. Be careful out there.

David 2

12-23-09, 20:33

Btw, I asked the mamasan (or who she is) behind the counter if the girls is tested for STD, yes, every 2 months she replied. Anyone knows if there's a law that WG has to be checked up or this is just the own house rules they put up? Not that you really know that this is followed up or the girls bring back real papers..

This gives everyone a VERY false sense of security. In 2 months some of those girls have sex with well over 100 guys from all over the world, with many different standards of cleanliness, well-being, and sexual history.

Going bareback here is certainly like playing Russian Roulette.

Just my 2 cents.

Member #3428

12-23-09, 22:05

This gives everyone a VERY false sense of security.

There is NO security guys, but I WOULD STILL RATHER go to a place where girls test at real hospitals then a rubber stamp place or get no testing. Or on the same token girls can produce their testing results for me (I carry copies of my physicals which I get every month on my flash drive BTW).

Nabucco

12-23-09, 22:46

Hit the Eden Club this week around 7. 30pm.

Reasonable selection of girls. Only one or two real "lookers" but a happy giggly bunch of ladies.

Ended up picking a girl from the non-Anal side of the line and letting her pick a friend. Don't know names but both were maybe 4'9". One was 27 and the other was 20.

Pricing remains 1800 per lady (3600 total) for 90 mins in the room.

The facilities appear to have been upgraded / cleaned-up a bit since my last visit in May 2008. Rooms appeared nicer, bathroom facilities better. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it certainly seemed upgraded.

In the room, girls were incredibly playful. Washed me and proceeded to give me an amazing BBBJ with prostate massage. This proceeded onto prodding with various fingers and implements. After some fucking, ended up blowing my load in one girls mouth before some recovery time. Round 2 was pretty much the same. But clearly took me longer and boy did the girls work for it without complaining. I was really impressed. And drained!

Some hugging downstairs at the bar before I left. Nice.

Great time, would go back for sure. Remains one of my favorite places in BKK.

Location on a Soi across from the Nana BTS is just too convenient. Look for the Subway/Coffee World on the corner at Sukhumvit, that's the street.

Sukhumvit Soi 7/1

(between Soi 7 and Soi 9, near Nana Skytrain Station, Exit 1)

Adjacent to the World Inn HotelIt really is one of the most amenable places in the city and they frequently upgrade the staff.

Nabucco

12-23-09, 23:00

Hit the Eden Club this week around 7. 30pm.

Reasonable selection of girls. Only one or two real "lookers" but a happy giggly bunch of ladies.

Ended up picking a girl from the non-Anal side of the line and letting her pick a friend. Don't know names but both were maybe 4'9". One was 27 and the other was 20.

Pricing remains 1800 per lady (3600 total) for 90 mins in the room.

The facilities appear to have been upgraded / cleaned-up a bit since my last visit in May 2008. Rooms appeared nicer, bathroom facilities better. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it certainly seemed upgraded.

In the room, girls were incredibly playful. Washed me and proceeded to give me an amazing BBBJ with prostate massage. This proceeded onto prodding with various fingers and implements. After some fucking, ended up blowing my load in one girls mouth before some recovery time. Round 2 was pretty much the same. But clearly took me longer and boy did the girls work for it without complaining. I was really impressed. And drained!

Some hugging downstairs at the bar before I left. Nice.

Great time, would go back for sure. Remains one of my favorite places in BKK.

Location on a Soi across from the Nana BTS is just too convenient. Look for the Subway/Coffee World on the corner at Sukhumvit, that's the street.

Sukhumvit Soi 7/1

(between Soi 7 and Soi 9, near Nana Skytrain Station, Exit 1)

Adjacent to the World Inn HotelI agree, it is one of the most amenable places in the city with frequently upgraded staff, but usually get there afternoons, it gets busy in the evenings.

Nabucco

12-23-09, 23:09

Currently which go-go bar has the best action in the capital? I haven; t been there since last June and really need an update for a friend visiting the city after Christmas.

NicFrenchy

12-24-09, 03:20

So she gets tested yesterday and is clean. Today she goes with a guy and gets infected. Meaning within the next few weeks she will be at high infection/transmission and pass everything along before the next few months test reveals that she has something. The theory that the bars are "safe" because the girls get tested I think is a bit flawed.

Yes, you are correct, but I still maintain that Bars/Massage places are Safer than the freelancers/Streetwalkers.

And it's not really the customers you should be worries about... it's the thai Boyfriends who bareback everything that moves.
One only needs to open camfrog's Asia/thailand rooms to see that all the sex happens with no protection.
Certain ladies fuck Everyday on Cam and with Different guys... again, no protection and almost all the time, guys come inside their pussies.

Trust me, BB in thailand is pure Suicide, even with non P4P girls.

If you want to be safe, barfine a girl for a week, you both go adn get tested, and then you can have a full week of fun.

Eaglestar

12-24-09, 03:21

Giotto, are you listening??? :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/5922789/Recession-hit-brothels-offer-novel-promotions.html

NicFrenchy

12-24-09, 03:25

NicFrenchy

12-24-09, 03:36

Giotto, are you listening??? :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/5922789/Recession-hit-brothels-offer-novel-promotions.html

Wow, funny how everytime someone comes up with a good idea for men to have some fun, there are always moralists or religious assholes to try and stop it.

Giotto

12-24-09, 05:49

Giotto, are you listening??? :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/5922789/Recession-hit-brothels-offer-novel-promotions.htmlEaglestar,

No.

I am blind on that ear :).

Giotto

Giotto

12-24-09, 06:15

Holiday Greetings from OTH (lost in the mists of time)

M P Lurker

12-24-09, 07:58

**** girls are creeping back into the bars. i was told that one young looking girl was only 16. she didn't appeal to me but i was curious. if you get interested in taking a girl, check early on that she is over 18 to avoid wasting time and drinks etc.

if too young, she won't be able to show her id at your hotel.

Jayman 05

12-24-09, 10:43

be careful, have spent some time in the tourist traps and have been made aware of ****rs in the bars!

Amjeck

12-24-09, 11:22

Trust me, BB in thailand is pure Suicide, even with non P4P girls.

.
This is a pretty strong statement. If it were true then the vast majority of thai people would be dead already. BB with a non p4p girl is much less risky than with a p4p girl. It's just a matter of numbers.

Dextro Sol

12-24-09, 11:52

There is NO security guys, but I WOULD STILL RATHER go to a place where girls test at real hospitals then a rubber stamp place or get no testing. Or on the same token girls can produce their testing results for me (I carry copies of my physicals which I get every month on my flash drive BTW).

What kind of places are you relating to when you say rubber stamp places? Before i left Thailand in november i made a test at a small clinic in Soi 11, It's called Sukhumwit 11 Clinic. It's in the alley behind Cheap Charlies....

Is that one of the more suspect places maybe?

M P Lurker

12-24-09, 11:53

BB with a non p4p girl is much less risky than with a p4p girl. It's just a matter of numbers.
Suspect logic. You would need to know what percentage of the P4P customers went bareback and how many sex sessions the non-P4P had.

Yes it is a matter of numbers, but its the number of BB sessions done, factored by how risky those types of guys were, and then when the HIV checks were performed. As HIV is not always caught on the first screw, the number of sex sessions could be more important than the number of guys. Thai men are statistically probably higher risk for the girl. In the end, the risk is hard to calculate unless the girl has had very few fucks in the last 3 months and you have a check result to say she was clear recently.

Many innocent Thai housewives caught HIV from their husbands who got it from playing up.

I believe only the girls getting checked regularly and who normally refuse BB, can be considered less risky. Non-P4P girls probably are not getting checked at all and could well be HIV without knowing!

Then you have to bring in intravenous drug users and BB anal into the equation which are very risky.

I wouldn't consider any girl safe without knowing her closely for several months and then seeing her recent test result at a proper clinic that you attended (and were probably tested too)!

Rjsss212

12-24-09, 12:02

this gives everyone a very false sense of security. in 2 months some of those girls have sex with well over 100 guys from all over the world, with many different standards of cleanliness, well-being, and sexual history.

going bareback here is certainly like playing russian roulette.

just my 2 cents.

david 2, i think you are overstating the danger unless i’m mis-reading it. sure unprotected sex is like russian roulette, which traditionally is about 16.6% effective/unlucky based on 1 round in a revolver/6 shooter (unless you were to pull a deniro, i guess). bbbj is significantly less as natty’s number are probable closer though i still believe it’s less. also, over 100 guys in 2 months also seems over stated. freelancers on suk in front of tony roma’s may be, as i see lot of movement from them whenever i pass. i don’t know what they are charging as they rarely meet my minimum levels, but there definitely is turnover there. bar girls on the other hand are seeing a lot less business and i seriously doubt meet those levels (and certainly not this week). as to a “false sense”, i think that if you’ve been at it long enough you tend to get your own sense if one is paying attention.

so metaphorically, at least in my mind, if full penetration, either vaginal or anal, is russian roulette (and i believe it is) then i believe that a bbbj, only imho, it is akin to a rear infantry position, far from the front line where a stray mortar round or landmine are probably the usual dangers – still war, only much safer – imho!.

also, based on my last 4 days in bkk traffic seems down a lot this holiday. coybow and nana are seriously down. far less mongers, seems like many less girls and girls seem to be accepting 3000 lt much easier than last year at this time (and i believe that i could even get them down lower if i tried). i wouldn’t go so far as to call it a total buyers market but the pickings are pretty good. also, i have also come across more **** girls in clubs than in recent memory (mp lurker). just last night i spoke with 2 who were 17 year olds in a bar in nana . both were friends, both were doable but openly confessed to being **** (which is certainly better than finding out later) as that’s one of my first questions after “how long you work in bar”.

Booey

12-24-09, 12:09

This is a pretty strong statement. If it were true then the vast majority of thai people would be dead already. BB with a non p4p girl is much less risky than with a p4p girl. It's just a matter of numbers.I read an article about two months ago, I'm sorry I don't remember where, that stated that the biggest increases in HIV in Thailand are amongst university students due to the increased acceptance of gik's and a more "open" attitude towards casual sex in the younger generations. I think I'll stick to "condom sense."

Member #3428

12-24-09, 12:10

It's called Sukhumwit 11 Clinic. It's in the alley behind Cheap Charlies....

Oh that sounds just classic....

Never heard of it but thanks for the laugh, I'm just picturing opening up a clinic called Cheap Charlies now...

A girl I know was told to go to a specific clinic by a well known bar which I will not mention here, the suggestion was more then a suggestion. The clinic did a bull shit exam and testing. This girl ended up paying her own testing at a real clinic. The girl DID have something also BTW.

Since then I've heard various reports from girls in bangkok and pattaya even that they do not trust various clinics. I have no interest in throwing names of the bars out there on just word of mouth by the girls. I get tested monthly for work (full physical, some folks are actually worried what will happen if I die) and there are a listing of acceptable places in bangkok I can go to if I am there when I need testing done.

Soi 11 cheap charlies (or the clinic behind it) was not on the list but few places are so it doesn't mean much.

Oldian

12-24-09, 12:42

Oh that sounds just classic.

Never heard of it but thanks for the laugh, I'm just picturing opening up a clinic called Cheap Charlies now.

A girl I know was told to go to a specific clinic by a well known bar which I will not mention here, the suggestion was more then a suggestion. The clinic did a bull shit exam and testing. This girl ended up paying her own testing at a real clinic. The girl DID have something also BTW.

Since then I've heard various reports from girls in Bangkok and Pattaya even that they do not trust various clinics. I have no interest in throwing names of the bars out there on just word of mouth by the girls. I get tested monthly for work (full physical, some folks are actually worried what will happen if I die) and there are a listing of acceptable places in Bangkok I can go to if I am there when I need testing done.

Soi 11 cheap charlies (or the clinic behind it) was not on the list but few places are so it doesn't mean much.I've been going to the Red Cross for years now. They are efficient, accurate, anonymous, inexpensive, and reliable. I have heard some funny stories regarding some of the alleyway "clinics".

Oldian

12-24-09, 12:46

There is talks in the Photo Gallery about TLL and DIA, I will continue here:

The best website for finding ladies willing to hump tourists is http://passion.com/

This website is way more SEX oriented than its counterparts and many Thai girls are there.

REMEMBER !!!!! one very important thing: You will not get results if you sign up as a normal or silver member... Ladies like the Gold Members.
Why? because they know that someone spending the money to have gold membership will be more serious about meeting, and most importantly, is not cheap.

Happy hunting FolksNic, do you have personal experience with passion.com? I'm curious, especially as in regards to expats, what percentage of the ladies on there are expecting payment for meeting up? It certainly looks like a far better humping only site compared to TLL or DIA, but also looks like a place for P4P to get free advertising. Or do you get your fair number of horny office workers too scared to stroll down to Sukhumvit?

Pekkakoo

12-24-09, 13:15

I am planning to have all STD tests in Bangkok, what hospital or a clinic do you suggest? I prefer fast results and of course high hygiene.

I am staying in Sukhumvit.

Daddy San

12-24-09, 16:29

........ there are a listing of acceptable places in bangkok I can go to if I am there when I need testing done.
Hi Transak,

would you care to share that list of reputable clinics with us?
Thanks
DS

Rjsss212

12-24-09, 18:51

I was in shark this evening and there was a lot of real talent.

Terry Terrier

12-25-09, 01:18

I read an article about two months ago, I'm sorry I don't remember where, that stated that the biggest increases in HIV in Thailand are amongst university students due to the increased acceptance of gik's and a more "open" attitude towards casual sex in the younger generations. I think I'll stick to "condom sense."
Amjeck has some interesting opinions on sexual activity in Thailand which he has openly admitted are based on the advice of a few of his Thai friends' hearsay.

NicFrenchy

12-25-09, 02:12

would you care to share that list of reputable clinics with us?

Forget that.

if you stick to the big 4, you'll be fine:

1. Samitivej http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/
2. Bumrungrad http://www.bumrungrad.com/
3. BNH http://www.bnhhospital.com/
4. Piyavate http://www.piyavate.com/index.php

Member #3428

12-25-09, 03:45

Forget that.

if you stick to the big 4, you'll be fine:

1. Samitivej http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/
2. Bumrungrad http://www.bumrungrad.com/
3. BNH http://www.bnhhospital.com/
4. Piyavate http://www.piyavate.com/index.php

OK master :D

Three of those four are are acceptable for MY reports (think it more has to do with payments and funding then anything else). Thai Red Cross is listed as OK for HIV testing ONLY.

Klong Tan Hospital on Peburi Road, Siriraj Hospital, Chulalongkorn (Silom), are listed as acceptable for my items.

Last I heard Bumrungrad still had their 24 hour a day testing facilities for both antibody and antigen testing. Don't know if that is still true but if you are worried and got nothing to do at 4 am there you go, now you got something to do.

I should note that I get most of my testing done at St. Lukes in Manila as my ex step mother in law works there (ex father in law is a bigger wh@re then me) and I walk in and walk out in 5 minutes and have the reports emailed to me and updates my work, my ex wife and some of my GF's at the same time. :D I'm such a lazy bastard....

NicFrenchy

12-25-09, 06:02

have the reports emailed to me and updates my work, my ex wife and some of my GF's at the same time. :D I'm such a lazy bastard....

So the whole world will know when you get herpes?

Member #3428

12-25-09, 06:05

So the whole world will know when you get herpes?

Pretty Much,,,,

But I have another option of going to my cousin at home who is chief of staff at our hospital or my neighbor who is second in charge, also related. So no matter what pus is dripping out my dick everyone will know anyways.

Daddy07

12-25-09, 08:08

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it appeared to be a commercial message and/or it contained links to a commercial website. Please post reports consisting primarily of a commercial nature and/or reports with links to commercial websites in the Classified Advertisement section of the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines and the Forum's FAQ for further information.
I checked out this website and found that a 3 month Gold subscription, which would entitle me to email the girls, costs $500 USD -- that's $2,000/year.

How many suckers out there would pay that to meet gold digging bimbo's online?

You can get the same at TLL for $80/year.

Jeff46

12-25-09, 10:40

Nana travel warning

Travel warning advisory for Bangkok, Thailand

PST 12/25/2009 12:32 GMT (TransWorldNews)

Assault on a tourist with a deadly weapon is not a crime in Thailand (a major tourist destination).

An American tourist on vacation in Thailand was brutally beaten, stabbed in the eye and robbed by staff of Cascades Bar at Nana Entertainment Plaza in Bangkok.

He survived the attack just to find out that the local police rarely investigate reports of crime against tourists and that Americans should be aware regarding inability of the local police to protect them prior to contemplating any travel to Thailand.

Jeff46

12-25-09, 10:44

Plots under way to create unrest in Thailand: police chief

www.Chinaview. Cn 2009-12-25 16:19:40 Print

Bangkok, Dec. 25 (Xinhua). Intelligence reports showed that plots are under way to create unrest in some areas in Thailand during the New Year festive season, said the country's acting police chief on Friday.

The Nation online quoted Prateep Tanprasert as saying that there are groups of I'll-intended people planning to provoke violence in tourist destinations across the country including Chiang Mai, Phuket, Songkhla, Pattaya and the capital Bangkok. He did not elaborate on their objectives or detailed plans.

The police chief said he has ordered all police stations in risk areas to take strict security measures to ensure peace and order.

He also said he will call a meeting of senior officers at the metropolitan police bureau to discuss security plan in Bangkok during the New Year celebrations.

Editor: Anne Tang

Daddy San

12-25-09, 11:16

Thanks for the hospital info.

On another note:
I wonder how many of you spend serious money on "Gold Subscriptions" like NickF's recommended or TTL or AFF and the like?
Obviously you must expect the returns (pointers to great pussy) to far exceed the expense in value. But does it? Can you recommend such services?

Member #3428

12-25-09, 11:21

Thanks for the hospital info.

On another note:
I wonder how many of you spend serious money on "Gold Subscriptions" like NickF recommended or TTL or AFF and the like?
Obviously you must expect the returns (pointers to great pussy) to far exceed the expense in value. But does it? Can you recommend such services?

CB for Philippines works wonders but you can score easy on DIA which is free. Philippines is like shooting fish in a barrel literally. You walk in a grocery store and walk out with a freebie if you wanted it. There are a few in PI that work well.

TLL I got a few girls, non pro's, so did I make my money back in saving bar fines yes I did but the ROI wasn't all what it was cracked up to be. I got four or five keepers out of it, but had to invest a lot of time. I guess I should not complain they are "nice" ladies. I ran into my fair share of pro's on the site also but overall I stuck to the non pro's.

CamFrog is good but again you gotta join it. Overall I would recommend doing them IF you have time.

NicFrenchy

12-25-09, 12:13

I wonder how many of you spend serious money on "Gold Subscriptions" like NickF's recommended or TTL or AFF and the like?

No, No, I did not recommend to pay for the gold membership, I just said that girls tend to take gold members more seriously than regular members for the reasons:

1. Shows you are seriously looking
2. you are not a cheapo

Member #3428

12-25-09, 12:44

No, No, I did not recommend to pay for the gold membership, I just said that girls tend to take gold members more seriously than regular members for the reasons:

1. Shows you are seriously looking
2. you are not a cheapo

Of course the girls would take you more seriously if you paid 500 for three months of on line chatting introduction.

It shows that you've got cash to burn and are happy to overpay for substandard services, seriously naive and incredibly stupid :D

In other words a perfect match for thai ladies.... Where do I sign up again?

Eric Cartman

12-25-09, 14:41

Was on Soi Cowboy last night with my buddy. We went into a go-go called Spice Girls, I think. They had a main stage with several girls dancing, and then 2 separate poles with topless dancing.

My buddy started talking to one of the main-stage girls, and she sat with him and he bought her a ladydrink. He asked her about going ST and she said she was only there to dance -- that she doesn't do ST or LT. Implication was none of the dancers did.

Is this something know or was it BS? He's a pretty normal, young looking guy so I wouldn't have expected she was blowing him off.

Just curious.
Thx.

T.R.A.

NicFrenchy

12-26-09, 02:12

my buddy started talking to one of the main-stage girls, and she sat with him and he bought her a ladydrink. he asked her about going st and she said she was only there to dance -- that she doesn't do st or lt. implication was none of the dancers did.

ok, i will say it... be very careful with girls at nep or sc, there are a few **** ladies in some bars now.
mp lurker pointed it out also a few days ago. you should be very very careful.

i'll never have that problem because i am not attracted at all by youngish girls, i like girls with some level of experience (27-32 is great) so a baby 19 years old will not get a second look from me.

be careful. check the id, and when you think you checked it, check again (and learn the thai years... this year is 2552 so if she's born after 2533 be careful)

M P Lurker

12-26-09, 08:29

My buddy started talking to one of the main-stage girls, and she sat with him and he bought her a ladydrink. He asked her about going ST and she said she was only there to dance -- that she doesn't do ST or LT. Implication was none of the dancers did.

Is this something know or was it BS? He's a pretty normal, young looking guy so I wouldn't have expected she was blowing him off.

Just curious.
Thx.

T.R.A.
No not bullshit. Normally the Coyote girl dancers are not bar-finable. I don't want to say that its impossible, but these girls would normally have to stay till closing time. After that, who knows, anything is possible in LOS.

Yiddo

12-26-09, 08:52

Oldian

12-26-09, 09:47

Nana travel warningIt's interesting that aside from this TransWorld news link, there are no other reports of this anywhere, not on Thai Visa, nothing in Google (other than the TransWorld)...when did it happen? Anyone know anything more about it?

Stew2

12-26-09, 16:42

It's interesting that aside from this TransWorld news link, there are no other reports of this anywhere, not on Thai Visa, nothing in Google (other than the TransWorld)...when did it happen? Anyone know anything more about it?

Agreed - this doesn't pass the smell test yet - the TransWorldNews story has absolutely no details (even when it happened) and no attribution to any source... And I can't find a trace of this story anywhere else.

Since TWN is not a news gathering operation itself - it is in the business of distributing press releases for businesses, i.e., PR - it had to get the story somewhere (i.e., someone else created it). But it doesn't say where. It is possible for members on the TWN site to submit news, so possibly someone simply put up a hoax?

M P Lurker

12-26-09, 18:02

Nana travel warning
We wouldn't normally attend Cascade which is a total LB bar, last time I passed by.

BionicMan

12-26-09, 23:54

i am in bkk right now, the quality in nana plaza is the best i have seen for years, and the clothes are coming off on the stage again now after a break of many years. the number of customers seems down, and you can still get stunners even after midnight. however it is true that there are a lot of '****' (i.e. under 18 but not under 16) girls around who will only go to the st rooms upstairs,will not go to your hotel, and haven't got id cards. actually i suspect that as often as not they are pretending not to have ids because they much prefer to go to the st rooms than to our hotel rooms. to be honest, i don't really know what the law is in thailand. i thought the age of consent was 16 (as in most of our home countries), whereas the age to work in a bar was 18. is that not right?
be careful: what can put you in troubles on the "****" is not much the local age of consent or legal age, but what this is in your own country.
so, for sake of argument, if you bed a 19yo girl and your country law says legal age is 21, you can be prosecuted in your own country (if found out).
i think age of consent means sex between two individuals below legal age, but above age of consent.
then.. to each one his own, but i do agree with nicfrenchy. better an old gal and experienced than a young (and legally dangerous) and often unexperienced.

The Pro

12-27-09, 03:01

Following this report in the BK Post today, it will not be too long before people in government and power start to cover their backsides and so a crackdown will be called for.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/30100/bangkok-sleazy-street-of-shame

Probably they will wait until mid to late January, get the high season peak holiday weeks out of the way and then hit it hard.

Sainter21

12-27-09, 03:02

i am in bkk right now, the quality in nana plaza is the best i have seen for years, and the clothes are coming off on the stage again now after a break of many years. the number of customers seems down, and you can still get stunners even after midnight. however it is true that there are a lot of '****' (i.e. under 18 but not under 16) girls around who will only go to the st rooms upstairs,will not go to your hotel, and haven't got id cards. actually i suspect that as often as not they are pretending not to have ids because they much prefer to go to the st rooms than to our hotel rooms. to be honest, i don't really know what the law is in thailand. i thought the age of consent was 16 (as in most of our home countries), whereas the age to work in a bar was 18. is that not right?

i like the younger (early 20's) look so i tend to be very cautious and weary. recently spoke to two nana fl's who had no id - alarm bells for me. passed.
thankfully i stay at a hotel that keeps girls id and in additon, if i am in doubt i will get the staff to check the id for me as well. still, if there is any lingering doubt, i will generally pass for the obvious moral and legal issues.

Member #3428

12-27-09, 03:20

Thankfully I stay at a hotel that keeps girls id and in additon, if I am in doubt I will get the staff to check the id for me as well.

Eh... reminds me of a funny story... a security guard at a well known hotel was showing me ID's of "girls" already taken up to the room... too bad more then a few were ladyboys. :D

Since then I'm not sure I trust any hotel staff and I made sure I tipped him well after this just in case ;)

I also know of a few stories where staff are just watching guys taking "ladies" up to their room and betting on how much longer until the "lady" and / or guy come storming back down stairs :D :D

Love Sex 22

12-27-09, 04:54

No, No, I did not recommend to pay for the gold membership, I just said that girls tend to take gold members more seriously than regular members for the reasons:

1. Shows you are seriously looking
2. you are not a cheapo

Gold membership is the way to go if you want to get girls to take you seriously and get them to bed sooner than later. I had pretty young girls coming to Bangkok to see me from Issan by bus to spend few days with me to get to know me better and I had sex in the first night with no question asked and no money exchanged. I am over weight bold and over 50 years old so they were not after my look.

NicFrenchy

12-27-09, 05:47

I am over weight bold and over 50 years old so they were not after my look.

Well of course you were Bold! Fucking them on the first night, you'd have to be!

unless you meant Bald? :D

AsiaTraveler2

12-27-09, 06:06

OK master :D

Three of those four are are acceptable for MY reports (think it more has to do with payments and funding then anything else). Thai Red Cross is listed as OK for HIV testing ONLY.

Klong Tan Hospital on Peburi Road, Siriraj Hospital, Chulalongkorn (Silom), are listed as acceptable for my items.

Last I heard Bumrungrad still had their 24 hour a day testing facilities for both antibody and antigen testing. Don't know if that is still true but if you are worried and got nothing to do at 4 am there you go, now you got something to do.

I should note that I get most of my testing done at St. Lukes in Manila as my ex step mother in law works there (ex father in law is a bigger wh@re then me) and I walk in and walk out in 5 minutes and have the reports emailed to me and updates my work, my ex wife and some of my GF's at the same time. :D I'm such a lazy bastard....

I got hit with a major flu virus a few years back, and ended up at Bumrungrad. Only in Thailand, do I get a cute nurse and cuter doctor. I was surprised to see a female doctor. It only cost about a US$100, including the meds, so the small bill was also a pleasant surprise. All of my traveling has given me a pretty good immunity to most stuff, and that was a first for me in many many years. Thank god for Bumrungrad. They still send me e-mails periodically! LOL!

AT2

AsiaTraveler2

12-27-09, 06:21

Currently which go-go bar has the best action in the capital? I haven; t been there since last June and really need an update for a friend visiting the city after Christmas.

Unless something has changed dramatically in the last year, I would just suggest he hit NEP and Soi Cowboy. It really does not take very long to stick your head in the bars and see what's available. The players change all the time, and everynight is a different experience, depending on what time you start trolling. I would make sure he knows which bars are ladyboy bars, so he does not have any bad experiences! ;)

It's been a while for me dropping in on the board. Lot's of new names, some old reliables like NicFrenchy and Tansak still posting and Tulip has their own thread! For those of you who celebrate Christmas, I hope you had a good one, and have a great New Years celebration!

AT2

Goyave

12-27-09, 07:14

... I get a cute nurse and cuter doctor. I was surprised to see a female doctor. It only cost about a US$100...

ST or LT? :D

Goyave

12-27-09, 08:07

To be honest, I don't really know what the law is in Thailand. I thought the age of consent was 16 (as in most of our home countries), whereas the age to work in a bar was 18. Is that not right?

The age of consent is 15 in Thailand.

But the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act disallows any sexual contact with prostitutes under the age of 18.

Fon Tok

12-27-09, 08:23

Unless something has changed dramatically in the last year, I would just suggest he hit NEP and Soi Cowboy...For those of you who celebrate Christmas, I hope you had a good one, and have a great New Years celebration! AT2Having no special plans for Christmas night, along with a good buddy, we decided to have a little fun -- Bangkok style...

After discussing the various options, we booked a 28th floor suite at a Sukh Soi 23 hotel (right behind Soi Cowboy). Our general plan was to drink a bit, enjoy a nice meal, and then lasso four girls as Christmas presents to ourselves. After a couple of warm up cocktails in the room, we ventured out into the young night. Our first stop was the Suzi Wong club before it opened to speak with a friendly mamasan. We told her we wanted to take four girls who were definitely into spirited G-on-G action along with multiple couplings. You do the math...

After a hearty meal at a nearby steakhouse, we sat out in front of Suzi Wong's for a few rounds. After watching the festive night slowly flow by, we ventured into the club to receive the full VIP treatment. It was quite arousing to watch the naked girls up on the stage vie for us as they were obviously clued to our plans. After watching a couple of rounds of dancing and weighing the options, we picked three hot young dancers -- two energetic spinners with perfect bodies, and one tall girl with a very wild look in her eyes. My buddy added a cute, nicely-endowed server with that Chiang Mai “girl next door” look. A few more rounds with girls and mamasans, etc., and we were off for a night of fun.

Once in the room, I cranked up the dance music, drinks were poured, and the party got started. In no time at all, off came the clothes, girls on their knees, girls on all fours, girls on girls, etc. etc., bada bing, bada boom boom!

It was a pretty wild affair that lasted well into the morning. The go-go girls were totally crazy as they rightly should be. The young server girl was a little shy, but very sexy as she joined in on the fun. All in all, a most memorable Christmas Night ended up being full of decadent, spirited and sweaty fun!

Next up? New Year's Eve...
ahhhh...Bangkok!

Rjsss212

12-27-09, 08:39

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Having no special plans for Christmas night, along with a good buddy, we decided to have a little fun -- Bangkok style...

NICE!!! But...........................................no pics!?!

Love Sex 22

12-27-09, 09:09

Well of course you were Bold! Fucking them on the first night, you'd have to be!

unless you meant Bald? :D

Sorry nice Frenchy i meant bald. Happy New Year and happy hunting.

Daddy07

12-27-09, 09:23

Sorry nice Frenchy...

"Nice Frenchy"? ... he is everything but nice ... unless, of course, you meant Nic. :D

Bounce Around

12-27-09, 16:41

I have been coming to Bangkok for the past three years, about half a dozen times. I've never made it over to Cowboy since I never thought it would be my scene; but after checking into furamaXclusive this morning I thought I would go check out the famous Suzie Wong.

So, after enjoying two martinis at the Grand Westin around 10: 30pm I sauntered over to Suzie Wong and the four eyed dweeb as well as his waitress assistant started yelling 'members only' as soon as they saw me coming. Now admitedly there was nobody in the outside area of the bar and I would imagine they would appreciate the business, but is it just my 'brown' imagination or did they actually have a members only night last night?

The whole experience pissed me off enough to just go back to the hotel and call a previous favourite.

Kiwi 69

12-28-09, 01:04

Eh... reminds me of a funny story... a security guard at a well known hotel was showing me ID's of "girls" already taken up to the room... too bad more then a few were ladyboys. :D

Since then I'm not sure I trust any hotel staff and I made sure I tipped him well after this just in case ;)

I also know of a few stories where staff are just watching guys taking "ladies" up to their room and betting on how much longer until the "lady" and / or guy come storming back down stairs :D :DI thought I recalled a post way back that made mention of how to identify whether a girl was real, or originally male at birth, by some letter/code on their ID card.

I have tried searching the forum with no success. Can one of you informed gentlemen please advise if this is correct. Many thanks and have a Great New Year !

Love Sex 22

12-28-09, 06:25

He looks perfectly nice to me......

Pita123

12-28-09, 06:28

Sorry nice Frenchy i meant bald. Happy New Year and happy hunting.

My thoughts exactly!

NYE, eh? Still mulling what to do in BKK on NYE...

NicFrenchy

12-28-09, 07:05

He looks perfectly nice to me......

uh oh... I hope you did not mean that in an Attractive way... LOL

NicFrenchy

12-28-09, 07:14

My thoughts exactly!

NYE, eh? Still mulling what to do in BKK on NYE...

I got just the thing...

- 05:00: Wake up, fuck the lady that is in your bed and then send her home.
- 07:00: Go have some Breakfast
- 08:30: Show up at SOL, slowly fuck the lady that opens the shop on couch#1
- 10:30: Go to soi 22 and get a Balls Massage+Fuck with Rin
- 13:00: Lunch @ LL + listen to Grumpy Giotto :D
- 15:00: Go to Annies for a Soapy slide and 2 more Shots
- 17:00: Go back to the Hotel to wash and rest your dick a little
- 21:00: Get a nice relaxing Massage at Mango + 3holes session
- 23:30: Go over to Cowboy and celebrate the new year with the Girls
- 00:30: make sure you are back at the hotel with 2 girls and fuck them in the shower! start the Year on a high note!!

Total Cost: 20,000. Probably the best 400 Euros you will ever spend :D

Sonic Bam

12-28-09, 08:20

I got just the thing...

- 05:00: Wake up, fuck the lady that is in your bed and then send her home.
- 07:00: Go have some Breakfast
- 08:30: Show up at SOL, slowly fuck the lady that opens the shop on couch#1
- 10:30: Go to soi 22 and get a Balls Massage+Fuck with Rin
- 13:00: Lunch @ LL + listen to Grumpy Giotto :D
- 15:00: Go to Annies for a Soapy slide and 2 more Shots
- 17:00: Go back to the Hotel to wash and rest your dick a little
- 21:00: Get a nice relaxing Massage at Mango + 3holes session
- 23:30: Go over to Cowboy and celebrate the new year with the Girls
- 00:30: make sure you are back at the hotel with 2 girls and fuck them in the shower! start the Year on a high note!!

Total Cost: 20,000. Probably the best 400 Euros you will ever spend :D
Are you after The Rabbit's mantle? That schedule would kill any normal male!

Daddy San

12-28-09, 11:40

I got just the thing...

- 05:00: Wake up, fuck the lady that is in your bed and then send her home.
- 07:00: Go have some Breakfast
- 08:30: Show up at SOL, slowly fuck the lady that opens the shop on couch#1
- 10:30: Go to soi 22 and get a Balls Massage+Fuck with Rin
- 13:00: Lunch @ LL + listen to Grumpy Giotto :D
- 15:00: Go to Annies for a Soapy slide and 2 more Shots
- 17:00: Go back to the Hotel to wash and rest your dick a little
- 21:00: Get a nice relaxing Massage at Mango + 3holes session
- 23:30: Go over to Cowboy and celebrate the new year with the Girls
- 00:30: make sure you are back at the hotel with 2 girls and fuck them in the shower! start the Year on a high note!!

Total Cost: 20,000. Probably the best 400 Euros you will ever spend :D

Are you after The Rabbit's mantle? That schedule would kill any normal male!

I agree the program is quite strenuous.
If it exceeds your sexual prowess, you could leave out the Lunch @ LL...

Giotto

12-28-09, 11:56

I agree the program is quite strenuous.
If it exceeds your sexual prowess, you could leave out the Lunch @ LL...BASTARD :) !

Giotto

Pita123

12-28-09, 13:25

I agree the program is quite strenuous.
If it exceeds your sexual prowess, you could leave out the Lunch @ LL...

I think heading to LL is still a good idea. Just the lunch that needs to be left out. Better to float in the pool and recharge.

Member #4285

12-28-09, 13:36

Just came back to the hotel (Soi 4) and the staff tells me this story about a poor guy that brought a LB up to the room (yeasterday night) and took all his money, around 60.000 bath. He put it in a condom and then up in the ass.

The staff went out looking for this LB and found him and told him they would call the police if he did not return the money. So he pull or shit (they did not tell me) the condom out.

The poor guy did not even know he was a operated LB. But he got his money back, and a good story to tell (or not) back home..

Syzygies

12-28-09, 16:53

Now admitedly there was nobody in the outside area of the bar and I would imagine they would appreciate the business, but is it just my 'brown' imagination or did they actually have a members only night last night?

The whole experience pissed me off enough to just go back to the hotel and call a previous favourite.I would never be denied entry as its known I'm generous.

So little doubt your brown look was the problem.

I have seen dark skinned custromers in there previously though. So could be a combination of skin colour, appearance, how full the bar was, and not being a known customer.

I'm just trying to make a realistic guess.

M P Lurker

12-28-09, 16:57

I thought I recalled a post way back that made mention of how to identify whether a girl was real, or originally male at birth, by some letter/code on their ID card.

I have tried searching the forum with no success. Can one of you informed gentlemen please advise if this is correct. Many thanks and have a Great New Year !

นาย naai = Mr
นาง nang = Mrs
นางสาว nangsao = Miss

Member #2041

12-28-09, 17:38

OnlyMe

12-28-09, 17:44

Having no special plans for Christmas night, along with a good buddy, we decided to have a little fun -- Bangkok style...

After discussing the various options, we booked a 28th floor suite at a Sukh Soi 23 hotel (right behind Soi Cowboy). Our general plan was to drink a bit, enjoy a nice meal, and then lasso four girls as Christmas presents to ourselves. After a couple of warm up cocktails in the room, we ventured out into the young night. Our first stop was the Suzi Wong club before it opened to speak with a friendly mamasan. We told her we wanted to take four girls who were definitely into spirited G-on-G action along with multiple couplings. You do the math...

After a hearty meal at a nearby steakhouse, we sat out in front of Suzi Wong's for a few rounds. After watching the festive night slowly flow by, we ventured into the club to receive the full VIP treatment. It was quite arousing to watch the naked girls up on the stage vie for us as they were obviously clued to our plans. After watching a couple of rounds of dancing and weighing the options, we picked three hot young dancers -- two energetic spinners with perfect bodies, and one tall girl with a very wild look in her eyes. My buddy added a cute, nicely-endowed server with that Chiang Mai “girl next door” look. A few more rounds with girls and mamasans, etc., and we were off for a night of fun.

Once in the room, I cranked up the dance music, drinks were poured, and the party got started. In no time at all, off came the clothes, girls on their knees, girls on all fours, girls on girls, etc. etc., bada bing, bada boom boom!

It was a pretty wild affair that lasted well into the morning. The go-go girls were totally crazy as they rightly should be. The young server girl was a little shy, but very sexy as she joined in on the fun. All in all, a most memorable Christmas Night ended up being full of decadent, spirited and sweaty fun!

Next up? New Year's Eve...
ahhhh...Bangkok!I wonder how much is the damage? Care to elaborate?

Member #4285

12-28-09, 18:23

นาย naai = Mr
นาง nang = Mrs
นางสาว nangsao = Miss

Some ID is in english, some in thai? Or both? The only ID I watched so far was spelled "Miss" and in english.

What sort of moron leaves 60K baht accessible in the room when they bring back ANY provider?

Good question. But I could do that, sure! Im way to careless..

Golfinho

12-28-09, 18:25

I agree the program is quite strenuous.

If it exceeds your sexual prowess, you could leave out the Lunch @ LL...No viagra?

AsiaTraveler2

12-28-09, 19:00

I got just the thing...

- 05:00: Wake up, fuck the lady that is in your bed and then send her home.
- 07:00: Go have some Breakfast
- 08:30: Show up at SOL, slowly fuck the lady that opens the shop on couch#1
- 10:30: Go to soi 22 and get a Balls Massage+Fuck with Rin
- 13:00: Lunch @ LL + listen to Grumpy Giotto :D
- 15:00: Go to Annies for a Soapy slide and 2 more Shots
- 17:00: Go back to the Hotel to wash and rest your dick a little
- 21:00: Get a nice relaxing Massage at Mango + 3holes session
- 23:30: Go over to Cowboy and celebrate the new year with the Girls
- 00:30: make sure you are back at the hotel with 2 girls and fuck them in the shower! start the Year on a high note!!

Total Cost: 20,000. Probably the best 400 Euros you will ever spend :D

Nic,

Excellent, but i would suggest one change. Get the girls earlier than 23:30, and see if they get you to pop at exactly midnight! Happy New Year!

AT2

Daddy San

12-28-09, 19:57

-Go to soi 22 and get a Balls Massage+Fuck with Rin
Total Cost: 2600. Probably the best 55 Euros you will ever spend :D
BTW, How is Miss Rin these days?
What is Rin's day off?
As warm-up exercise, I want to make an appointment with her for the afternoon I arrive at BKK in February, so I need to book my flight accordingly.

Member #3428

12-28-09, 21:48

What sort of moron leaves 60K baht accessible in the room when they bring back ANY provider?

Count me in this class moron. But usually pocket money is around 30 K. Add in the electronics and the figure is significantly higher.

Member #2041

12-28-09, 21:51

Count me in this class moron. But usually pocket money is around 30 K. Add in the electronics and the figure is significantly higher.

I can't believe that people leave nearly $2000 or so lying around outside of a secure safe when they have a companion of unknown intentions and background in their rooms. Haven't you heard of in-room safes? Or, lacking that, lobby safe deposit boxes?

No wonder people are getting robbed - they are basically asking for it.

Member #3428

12-28-09, 22:40

I can't believe that people leave nearly $2000 or so lying around outside of a secure safe when they have a companion of unknown intentions and background in their rooms. Haven't you heard of in-room safes? Or, lacking that, lobby safe deposit boxes?

No wonder people are getting robbed - they are basically asking for it.

Sorry but my rooms cost me more then 25 USD a night and the ladies I"m with are not 15 USD short time street walkers. Nothing is safe for sure but 30,000 baht or close to it is what I have in my pocket at most times. Now all my credit cards and electronic information is secured as I'm more concerned about that area then 1 or 2 K USD.

I'll rarely take CC or official ID's out with me due to having past issues with those being lifted in another country. The passport(s), back up data, CC, and such get locked securely and not in the hotel safe. But for me electronic data is more valuable then 1 K USD. As I'm there for work not for holiday, for about 15 years in SEA now.

1 K is easy to replace, the data and identity items is not (or easily) replaceable and can cause me serious problems.

Member #2041

12-28-09, 23:20

ThaiLearner

12-28-09, 23:36

Member #3428

12-29-09, 00:22

It doesn't matter if you paid 500 baht or 5000 baht for your night's companion - leaving 30K to 60K baht lying around accessible while you're in the shower and your lady friend is waiting for you in your room is asking for trouble.

And I never suggested that you should leave your electronics out and available for them either. Of course I would safeguard that as well.

As far as I'm concerned, whenever there is a lady in my room, there is no more than what I'll be paying her (plus perhaps a few hundred extra baht), and none of my credit cards, passport, and none of my valuable electronics is accessible to her. This seems like a minimum of common sense.

Different strokes for different folks. As long as we enjoy our own ways then no issues.

30 K baht is in my pocket at all times. And I've never in all my years had an issue with thai girls taking items other then raiding the mini bar, borrowing my cell phone chargers, etc... but they usually ask first (except the mini bar :D ). I agree the price of the girl doesn't make the girl but maybe I am just lucky in who I pick or who I take long time or whatever.

Sometimes a nice dinner is more then just street vendor food and sometimes I want to pick up items (where I live there is little shopping available, seriously not even a real gas station). So that amount is really is just pocket money.

Pattaya is much more riskier then BKK IMHO but for the most part I've only had attempted issues in Philippines (and a few other countries) and a few Ladyboy pick pockets at NEP. That is why the reports in Pattaya thread or such about motion sensors / alarms and bike chains and such had me scratching my head.

EDIT: let me clarify one area however... one pocket has 20 / 50 / 100 baht bills etc... for lower amounts, however I do have on me in other pockets, or areas or security hidden pockets larger bills.

The Pro

12-29-09, 02:15

What sort of moron leaves 60K baht accessible in the room when they bring back ANY provider?The kind that makes it into stories told in bars, by bellboys and talked about on the internet. Eg the kind that is fantasy.

Nobody would leave that amount just out for all to see whilst they shower or go off to McDonalds or whatever else the story wants them to do.

Normal fantasy "have you heard this, honest, its true" kind of story.

M P Lurker

12-29-09, 08:33

Some ID is in english, some in thai? Or both? The only ID I watched so far was spelled "Miss" and in english.

Older Id Cards may have no English. I believe the newer ones have both making it easy! :)

Rocksoff

12-29-09, 08:40

I would never be denied entry as its known I'm generous. [...] I have seen dark skinned custromers in there previously though. So could be a combination of skin colour, appearance, how full the bar was, and not being a known customer.

I've seen a gogo in Pattaya turn "members only" as an indian guy was approaching. Said indian guy was bleary-eyed, weaving and disheveled, wearing a wrongly-buttoned shirt soaked with sweat.

I've also had baht buses in Pattaya refuse to take me because the driver suddenly decides I'm drunk (which I wasn't!).

There's a lot of short fuses and bad attitude in Pattaya (and Patong, Patpong, NEP, and even Cowboy), so just sidestep it and stay cool. Though it often isn't easy .. you really have to get mentally prepared to have any chance of enjoying yourself in Patpong gogos.

And don't handicap yourself. Take a lot of showers, smile and be polite, don't dress like a slob. Well, works for me ..

Gawd I'm turning into a windbag.

M P Lurker

12-29-09, 09:05

I'll rarely take CC or official ID's out with me due to having past issues with those being lifted in another country. The passport(s), back up data, CC, and such get locked securely and not in the hotel safe. But for me electronic data is more valuable then 1 K USD. As I'm there for work not for holiday, for about 15 years in SEA now.

1 K is easy to replace, the data and identity items is not (or easily) replaceable and can cause me serious problems.
Good advice. I managed to loose my wallet recently when getting out of a taxi. My own fault entirely as didn't put it properly in the tight pocket and must have fell out. I was certain I was not pickpocketed due to very short time span till I noticed it was missing. Luckily I got it back, minus the cash. But temporary loss of the cards was the big problem.

I haven't been using Hotel Safes hardly at all, but might leave Credit Cards and Passport in there in future.

I don't like to keep huge amounts of money in my wallet, especially when mongering. I have been lucky that girls have never robbed me to my knowledge, nor Hotel staff, but you never know. Hotel staff could do it if they had decided to leave Hotel anyway on the same day or desperate for some reason. P.S. My possesions aren't worth that much anyway, with Laptop the only item of any real value I take with me on holidays (aside from passport which is clearly the most important). I don't ever feel its in danger, but probably wise not to leave it in view as a precaution. I don't even lock my suitcase giving the impression that there isn't anything valuable in there, which is mostly true.

Refrain from wearing expensive jewellery is a good idea.

With girls that are not known to you, I would suggest a ST is a safer option, especially with freelancers. I mostly only go long time if I know the girl, but may extend if she is super. If a ST girl leaves alone and has to collect her Id at the desk, a good Hotel will normally call the room to check everything is O.K. before returning the Id Card.

Going off on a tangent, I believe a higher risk than being robbed, is being hassled by the police which happened to me recently. Taxi was stopped and I was searched for no reason. Probably looking for drugs or any other illicit things. I was on way to Soi Cowboy but carried nothing of interest to them. Condoms and Gel are O.K. :D

If guys are carrying Viagra or similar, the generics are possibly illegal, and even the original stuff may be a problem without a prescription with you. I would suggest keeping very low quantities on you, preferably only 1 tablet, and keep it in a place sufficiently strange not to be searched.

Member #4285

12-29-09, 10:25

The kind that makes it into stories told in bars, by bellboys and talked about on the internet. Eg the kind that is fantasy.

Nobody would leave that amount just out for all to see whilst they shower or go off to McDonalds or whatever else the story wants them to do.

Normal fantasy "have you heard this, honest, its true" kind of story.

Hm, Im not following you now. You mean, people leave 60k bath in the room, visible or not visible just to hopfully get a story out of the situation to tell everybody els? Then you are to board and have to much money.

Or do you mean that the story is made up by the hotelowner (mother of a familyhotel and for what reason because that would only be bad publicity even if they now went after the LB and catched him thou)? Or maybe even me?

Amjeck

12-29-09, 11:13

30 K baht is in my pocket at all times.

So that amount is really is just pocket money.

This is pretty commonplace in bkk nowdays. 30k baht really isn't that much money. Bkk ain't a cheap city anymore!

Chocha Monger

12-29-09, 11:20

Pita123

12-29-09, 11:36

What sort of moron leaves 60K baht accessible in the room when they bring back ANY provider?

The Kid does stay in some dodgy hotels. I imagine the guests are not less dodgy.

Opebo

12-29-09, 11:43

30 K baht is in my pocket at all times.

Must be nice. When I go out in Pattaya I always bring at most 2,000 baht, and usually more like 1,000. Of course I don't go out in Bangkok as it is too expensive, but on the rare occasions I am stuck there on business I still only bring 2,000-3,000 baht (plenty for a visit to SOL or just enough for a visit to Tulip, plus a meal). Like most expats, 30,000 baht is more like my monthly budget than a night out.

Member #3428

12-29-09, 12:10

Like most expats, 30,000 baht is more like my monthly budget than a night out.

Ahhh here we go... I just new I'd get a chime in from Opebo on this issue. I respect your posts but it does get tiring to hear how little you make. Obviously you enjoy it or you'd leave.

Of course I have a job even if the economy is making us all bankrupt and my job takes me to Philippines, Thailand, China. However in my home there is not even an ATM machine, no shit. My home is more 4th world country then anything else so carrying cash is a way of life.

As stated before there is no shopping in my home, especially if there is no ATM machine you can imagine the type of stores we have. As such to spend 10,000 USD or more on items per visit is not unheard of but we are not talking about rolex watches or such but basic items for work or for other work areas on island such as projectors, computers, you name it. Due to importation it is difficult for shipping (4,000 USD for a 20 foot container and it takes one month) and almost impossible to get items to my home without hand carrying the items. Some ISG members know me and know my location. Look at the airport sometime when you depart, go to the oversized luggage area and you'll be amazed at what people are shipping home as LUGGAGE.

I do enjoy a good meal and some nicer items and as such carrying 30,000 baht for me is not much, it's under 1,000 USD and for a place where I will never use ATMs and I refuse to carry around my CC's that is not much. Now paying in cash for 5 computers and 1 projector and a shit load of other electronics they do raise eyebrows when the large cash comes out. But this is a way of life for my area. As I said different strokes for different folks. And yes I do enjoy staying at places that are not flea bags, again work picks up the tab, and I do enjoy ladies but rarely do I go FL's. When I do everything is secured. When I'm with my regulars then nope, I'll leave shit laying around but of course not cash on the table.

I do not leave 60 K sitting on the dresser but yes it could be found if you riffle through my clothes and for sure 30 K can be found, I was raised to always have funds available on you but not in one place. If the police try to shake me down they will have to do a complete search to find all the cash. And of course it is secured up before I go to sleep with a girl. As stated in other reports I have large locking cases for my work items and things are usually once shopping is going on 70 lbs x 3 bags.

I really do not care what Toilet Paper thinks. For some folks 30 K is not that much, it is 30 little bills folded up very small and can be hidden easily. And we're not talking about blowing 30 K on bar girls like some drunk idiot like we've all seen (500 USD tips I've personally seen). Then again at times a 10,000 - 15,000 dinner / drink bill is not unheard for me if there is a nice wine and good meal for some folks (more then two). That's 300 to 500 USD which is not much for a good meal in USA or EU for two people let alone for a group.

Daddy07

12-29-09, 12:23

...I really do not care what Toilet Paper thinks... (huh?)
Tansak and Opebo ... I love these stories.

You both are hero's in your own way.

Member #3428

12-29-09, 12:30

...I really do not care what Toilet Paper thinks... (huh?).

Sorry, maybe my english isn't correct but I thought American's referred to Toilet Paper as TP (IE The Pro). Seems fitting to me

But you are correct, I very much respect Opebo's posts as stated.

Daddy07

12-29-09, 12:47

Sorry, maybe my english isn't correct but I thought American's referred to Toilet Paper as TP (IE The Pro). Seems fitting to me...

Oh, OK, I get it now ... yeah, that fits. :D

I thought maybe you were sending a big load of toilet paper from Thailand to your fourth world banana republic along with all the computers, printers and shit loads of other electronics. :)

BionicMan

12-29-09, 13:06

Count me in this class moron. But usually pocket money is around 30 K. Add in the electronics and the figure is significantly higher.
As much as a LB is 'capable to receive', having read the story here, it is difficult a LB (or anyone) can store 30k of electronics in any personal hole

Syzygies

12-29-09, 14:21

30 K baht is in my pocket at all times.Do you screw with your pants still on?.

Or which pocket do you keep it when you are naked?

I mean I don't know how to interpret your statement.

But I understand somewhat. I have tried taking money out of my Thai account about 10K at a time but it just doesn't seem to last very long. GFs are the worst. They seem to cause money to be spent too rapidly.

Even if I don't need any gadgets, the GF seems to.

Member #3428

12-29-09, 14:21

it is difficult a LB (or anyone) can store 30k of electronics in any personal hole

I dunno those electronics are getting awfully small now a days... but i have no experience with LB's to know :D

Oh, OK, I get it now ... yeah, that fits. :D

Good, glad I understand correctly, thought TP was for shit only.

M P Lurker

12-29-09, 14:34

I really do not care what Toilet Paper thinks. For some folks 30 K is not that much, it is 30 little bills folded up very small and can be hidden easily. And we're not talking about blowing 30 K on bar girls like some drunk idiot like we've all seen (500 USD tips I've personally seen). Then again at times a 10,000 - 15,000 dinner / drink bill is not unheard for me if there is a nice wine and good meal for some folks (more then two). That's 300 to 500 USD which is not much for a good meal in USA or EU for two people let alone for a group.
That is a lot of money for a meal for two! That could finance Opebo's mongering for a whole month. :D or a rabbit for a day ;)

I stupidly took the Thai GF to a French restaurant in BKK and the bill was over 4K Baht including drinks. She found out and was a bit pissed off. I mean that was good money that could have been spent on her shopping. So its back to far cheaper non-Thai restaurants in future, e.g. Thong Kee Chinese opposite Robinson has superb roast duck very cheap.

Member #3428

12-29-09, 14:51

That is a lot of money for a meal for two! That could finance Opebo's mongering for a whole month. :D or a rabbit for a day ;).

I said meal for more then two...

And if I bar fine three girls x 400 (or up to 1,000 bar fine each girl) and pay them 2,000 up to 4,000 each (depending on city, what is long time, what all they do etc...) for long time that is well over 10,000 baht just in that.

I've been known to take multiples so yes my mongering is on the higher fee side. And that is not taking into account the afternoon MP's or such.

Gfighta

12-29-09, 15:44

I'm with Tansak KTV. Back home I would always carry $1200. $1500 on me at all times. I almost never used my credit or debit cards and paid cash for anything I needed to buy. I wish more people would use cash instead of credit all the time. It drives me crazy to see someone paying for their $3 coffee with their debit card.

It actually annoys me that I can't carry around as much cash as I would like here in Thailand. I usually carry around 20000 Baht and my gf hates it because she think's I'm either going to lose it or get robbed.

Bounce Around

12-29-09, 16:07

I said meal for more then two.

And if I bar fine three girls x 400 (or up to 1, 000 bar fine each girl) and pay them 2, 000 up to 4, 000 each (depending on city, what is long time, what all they do etc.) for long time that is well over 10, 000 baht just in that.

I've been known to take multiples so yes my mongering is on the higher fee side. And that is not taking into account the afternoon MP's or such.Hi all,

I am off to the airport already to merry DXB; but if any of you are in the vicinity of Soi 21 and Furama/grand millinium; I would tell you to avoid the overpriced martinis at GM (at470 bht) [better to go to Grand Westin]; but one of the best meals I had was at this place for Sharks fin, its right at the first corner (before the 7/11) if you exit Furama to the left. Shark fins soup with Abalone, Abalone in a special sauce and some serious prawns in chilli garlic. I may not stay at furama again, but I'd come back for this meal (though you would need about 5K per person).

And those of you striking out at Suzy Wong as I did can find solace at Thermae. Though my last visit before going to the airport was of course Rin!

M P Lurker

12-29-09, 16:12

And if I bar fine three girls x 400 (or up to 1,000 bar fine each girl) and pay them 2,000 up to 4,000 each (depending on city, what is long time, what all they do etc...) for long time that is well over 10,000 baht just in that.

It amazes me that you have time to post, leave alone that you are also so prompt to answer.

Daddy San

12-29-09, 18:16

It amazes me that you have time to post, leave alone that you are also so prompt to answer.
That is called multi-tasking: working the keyboard, while getting a BJ

Member #2041

12-29-09, 18:27

As much as a LB is 'capable to receive', having read the story here, it is difficult a LB (or anyone) can store 30k of electronics in any personal hole

Actually, it depends on the electronics. As someone who worked for decades in the electronics industry, I can easily contemplate a bit of gear that's worth 30K - 60K baht and is much smaller than what normally gets put in the aforementioned holes. In fact, lots of the communications gear used in espionage is worth tens of thousands of dollars or more, and is no larger than a person's little finger.

Opebo

12-29-09, 18:28

... Opebo ... I respect your posts but it does get tiring to hear how little you make. Obviously you enjoy it or you'd leave.

Thanks for the respect, but, yes, I'll bet it is tiring to hear tales of poverty; however, let me tell you - its even more tiring living on it! Particularly that last week of the month, every month, when there's no money left at all.

But seriously, I actually make more than 40K nowadays, and yes, I do enjoy my life here. Fact is, I'd probably make no more back in the Bad Place, even if I could find a job!

Member #3428

12-29-09, 22:04

Thanks for the respect, but, yes, I'll bet it is tiring to hear tales of poverty; however, let me tell you - its even more tiring living on it! Particularly that last week of the month, every month, when there's no money left at all.

But seriously, I actually make more than 40K nowadays, and yes, I do enjoy my life here. Fact is, I'd probably make no more back in the Bad Place, even if I could find a job!

555... OK OK glad to hear you are above 40 K now.... Do hope to catch up with you some day at Pat's maybe, say next three weeks? Hell I'd even meet up with TP :D

Maybe it's me and my non Xmas cheer but I hear enough tales of poverty from the girls how little they make and how mama and baby needs and how no customer and how men all sadist and why I not take care them more etc....

Christ if read your posts and I closed my eyes I could think you're a BG and that scares the hell out of me... :D

If I need to hear a current earnings report I need to just open my monger email account and if I wanted a real good pitty party I think most of us just can look at our bottom line for the last year with our increasing debt and our crappy ROI. Atleast for me ;)

Cheers folks and let's enjoy the New Year...

That is called multi-tasking: working the keyboard, while getting a BJ

Would you stop giving away my secrets.... :D

Actually for Xmas (and for on more day) I got/get to nail the filipino's ministers (who's also headmaster of my kids school) daughter who came for a visit. Boy was it an unexpected albeit joyous and tasty holiday. One for which confirms for sure I'm going straight to hell and my kids are going to never graduate grade school.

Member #4285

12-29-09, 23:26

First, I think I have to ask the mama in the hotel about this LB story in my hotel. But when Im going throu in my head what she told me (I was a bit tierd when I came back after a whole day at Dreamworld) is that they catched the LB very quickly after she left. Yes, I call them she, I dont know why. Anyway, she told me they searched her cloaths and even hair as it happend before LB were hiding money in the hair (in some way, dont ask). When they did not find they sad: we call police. So, when they start talking about police the LB get scared and shit or pulled out (still dont know) the condom from the ass with 60k bath. If anyone (TP) needs more information, I can ask tomorrow.

Today, I ended up in Patpong after some lurking around in shopping mals. Went to Pink Panther for some looking and Thai Boxing (every night at 23.00). I know the most of you dont like Patpong, but I must say that Pink Panther has some really good looking girls. At 00.30 im drunk and goes to check out Star Of Light. A real cute girl from Isaan is on the coach and askes if I want a BJ. Im playing real dumb and say, what? Can you have a BJ here? Im just looking for a beer. I get the beer and of course accepts the BJ. Really cute girl with big tits, and stands out from the rest I must say. It was fun when the bartender (lady) asks "how its going, and can you really come we are closing soon", and told me "I want to see you come, please let me see you come". Normaly I have very hard to come when Im drunk, but, I did this time. Maybe i like the dirty way, or maybe the cheap way. 700 for BJ and 1000 for FS. I gave her 700 + 80 for beer and 120 in tip.

In the bathroom there is a sighn on the wall that says "every lady has to check their blood once every month, thank you".

After this I go for a beer outside in one of this opend air bars and one girl asks me for 5000. She saw I was really drunk. I dont blame her.

BionicMan

12-30-09, 01:32

Actually, it depends on the electronics. As someone who worked for decades in the electronics industry, I can easily contemplate a bit of gear that's worth 30K - 60K baht and is much smaller than what normally gets put in the aforementioned holes. In fact, lots of the communications gear used in espionage is worth tens of thousands of dollars or more, and is no larger than a person's little finger.

...no doubt but the chance one of these equipments worth 30k is laying somewhere in a BKK hotel by the owner, picking up a LB for a screw (later maybe finding out he was him being screwed with the robbery...) is one in a billion!
Anyhow looks like it was 60k cash and that is definetely more credible..:)

M P Lurker

12-30-09, 01:41

...
but one of the best meals I had was at this place for Sharks fin, its right at the first corner (before the 7/11) if you exit Furama to the left. Shark fins soup with Abalone, Abalone in a special sauce and some serious prawns in chilli garlic. I may not stay at furama again, but I'd come back for this meal (though you would need about 5K per person).

I was staying at Fx and walked into the nearby Shark Fin with GF (probably Hong Kong or Shanghai style food), expecting prices like at Thong Kee.

The place looked small but many staff.

I had a quick look at menu and then left promptly. Some dishes were over 3K. :( (and not even a fuckable "dish")

Sex is far more important than food unless you are starving.

The Pro

12-30-09, 01:45

I mean Thai Ladies, in particular mama's, but common across many of the female species have a tendency to exagerate a story.

If one has a boyfriend giving her 20K a month, her friend then says she has one giving 30K a month, within a couple of weeks a nearby neighbour is now saying her boyfriend sends her 200K a month and 10 baht gold for her mum 5 times a year.

If a guest had 3K stolen by a katoey in would not take long for the "beer and som tam" effect to take place and suddenly its 60K and stuffed up their arse.

3K has no "beer drinking laugh a lot great story" effect.

60K really pulls the nerds in and gets everyone talking, same effect its had on here.

Therefore, its very likely the katoey stole a small amount, but normal Thai exageration has now made this the sum of 60K baht.

Hm, Im not following you now. You mean, people leave 60k bath in the room, visible or not visible just to hopfully get a story out of the situation to tell everybody els? Then you are to board and have to much money.

Or do you mean that the story is made up by the hotelowner (mother of a familyhotel and for what reason because that would only be bad publicity even if they now went after the LB and catched him thou)? Or maybe even me?

FreebieFan

12-30-09, 02:13

Back home I would always carry $1200. $1500 on me at all times. I almost never used my credit or debit cards and paid cash for anything I needed to buy. I wish more people would use cash instead of credit all the time. It drives me crazy to see someone paying for their $3 coffee with their debit card.

.I'm with you in the line of the cash carrying and the annoyed.

I was in a supermarket in Manila the other day and the lady in front had a bill that was all of Peso 100. US$2. 20. And out comes the card.

I asked her why she doesn't pay cash, and she says. " My husband says I spend too much, so if I use the card, he won't notice. ". I'm assuming the husband is paying the card. But you can't reply to female logic like that.

Redfield10

12-30-09, 02:56

Actually for Christmas (and for on more day) I got/get to nail the Filipino's ministers (who's also headmaster of my kids school) daughter who came for a visit. Boy was it an unexpected albeit joyous and tasty holiday. One for which confirms for sure I'm going straight to hell and my kids are going to never graduate grade school.[/QUOTE]Ok, Ok, we want more details! Give us the juicy report and spice it up!

The Rooster1

12-30-09, 05:11

I find myself working in Bangkok and need help finding a place. My father keeps telling me about this place he visited probably 20 years back when he was over here. He will be visiting and would like to see if its still around. Its an oudoor eating area and all the waitresses wear roller skates. Anyone heard of this place with the limited details?

Thanks in advance.

Goyave

12-30-09, 09:18

... Its an oudoor eating area and all the waitresses wear roller skates...

It is probably the "Royal Dragon" (Mang Gorn Luang) restaurant in Bangkok.

Address: 35/222 M.4 Bangna - Trad Rd., Bangna, Bangkok 10260 Thailand
Email: dragonman@royal-dragon.com
Website: http://www.royal-dragon.com/aboutus.htm

AlLostInSpace13

12-30-09, 09:34

What is the going price for ST? I've been RTFF, but you guys don't mention prices often. I thought some time ago, someone mentioned 2,000. Or was that the LT price instead?

Thanks,
Al

Goyave

12-30-09, 09:50

What is the going price for ST? I've been RTFF, but you guys don't mention prices often. I thought some time ago, someone mentioned 2,000. Or was that the LT price instead?

Thanks,
Al

On my latest visit (in april 2009), I was still quoted 1000 baht per girl for a ST session there (in the early afternoon). I also was offered a threesome ST session for 2000 baht, but I declined as one girl in the pair was not attractive enough (to my eyes).

Member #3428

12-30-09, 10:09

On my latest visit (in april 2009), I was still quoted 1000 baht per girl for a ST session there (in the early afternoon). I also was offered a threesome ST session for 2000 baht, but I declined as one girl in the pair was not attractive enough (to my eyes).

Pretty much same for me... but I negotiated a threesome lower as they obviously thought there would be less work involved... boy were they wrong (and kind of pissed off too). I also got a lot of "up to you" responses.

Rjsss212

12-30-09, 10:36

But as we know "up to you" rarely means up to you. Doesn't it usually mean "OK falang, lets hear your opening offer"?

Pretty much same for me... but I negotiated a threesome lower as they obviously thought there would be less work involved... boy were they wrong (and kind of pissed off too). I also got a lot of "up to you" responses.

The Pro

12-30-09, 10:59

What is the going price for ST? I've been RTFF, but you guys don't mention prices often. I thought some time ago, someone mentioned 2,000. Or was that the LT price instead?

Thanks,

AlSt,

If they are struggling for cash or not so eye pleasing then 1000 and sometimes below that can be got. More in demand ones will want 1500 baht for ST.

LT, depends really, again, some will go no problem for 2000 baht, some will want more.

As a rule of thumb, if they do not ask how much, and you do not ask too, then 1500 baht short time and 2000 baht long time no problem. Just give them that and shrug off any demands for more, if any.

If you think you can get it cheaper then ask the question how much for short time and long time. These girls are freelancers, never forget that, and do not be shy to ask. One of my friends is too shy to ask, I always have to ask for him how much. Makes me laugh really that some guys are that shy in asking, but then dirty as hell once its all agreed LOL.

Member #3428

12-30-09, 11:14

But as we know "up to you" rarely means up to you. Doesn't it usually mean "OK falang, lets hear your opening offer"?

Nah I don't play like that. If we've laid the ground rules as to what will happen and we get to price issues and they say up to me then my reply is OK let's go.

If they hesitate to go or want to start negotiations then OK if I am really into them I'm then set the pricing with incentives.

But I have to admit that most of the ones I do talk to who say "up to you" do go off with me and take what I give them which is based on their performance and I have my own pricing scale for that.

Goyave

12-30-09, 12:50

But as we know "up to you" rarely means up to you. Doesn't it usually mean "OK falang, lets hear your opening offer"?

Well, "up to you" is never an acceptable answer for me (because if you don't settle things before the deed, you might get into trouble later as the girl may value her performance at a higher price than you).

When a girl says that it's "up to me", I will insist and remind her that I am the customer and that she is the provider, therefore, she must tell me her price.

When she would not state her price first anyway, I either don't make any deal or if I am still tempted, I will ask her many precisions about what she can do and what she refuses to do (anal, cum swallowing, video shooting allowed or not, etc.) and only then, depending on her answers, I make an offer.

M P Lurker

12-30-09, 14:57

Nah I don't play like that. If we've laid the ground rules as to what will happen and we get to price issues and they say up to me then my reply is OK let's go.

If they hesitate to go or want to start negotiations then OK if I am really into them I'm then set the pricing with incentives.

But I have to admit that most of the ones I do talk to who say "up to you" do go off with me and take what I give them which is based on their performance and I have my own pricing scale for that.
I agree with Tansak on this one. "Up to You" is really a license to pay anything between the "going rate" and any higher amount based on a performance beyond the average. Its not really a license to underpay unless she specifically says won't accept money, or she gave no service at all.

Obviously the girl would nott be happy if she gets well below the going rate. Believe it or not many girls feel shy to discuss a price. At a bar I do not appear stingy with drinks and therefore girls rarely discuss the price before going with me.

I never get into extended negotiation over prices. This would be a mood killer for probably both of us.

Believe it or not, some girls have not discussed ST or LT either. If I don't discuss it, that means I'm happy with ST. Some girls rarely do LT at all. This could mean she has to go home to mum and dad or the Thai BF. ALWAYS say when you want LT and make sure she repeats it! Then ask what time she has to leave. This saves lots of misunderstandings.

Unlike Tansak, I find it pointless to discuss what the girl will and won't do. Most girls will tell you beforehand if they have any aversion to real basics like kissing for example. I am strange in that I don't have a good time unless the girl also has a good time or is an incredible actress. Therefore I don't want anything special that the girl does not enjoy. Obviously I expect the minimum of BBBJ, sex in various positions, kissing, DATY, etc. and usually get it.

I only occasionally run into girls who don't do BBBJ or kissing or DATY, and most of these will have given hints to this before going with them.

If I have good chemistry with a girl, we would have been kissing in the bar already (its important to have clean fresh mouth before going to the bar). So I already will know how keen she is.

Obviously I do not wish to subject girls to degradation. I see that as a Psychological problem.

I believe taking a bar girl is about helping her and she rewarding me for that. I help her sell a few drinks to keep the boss happy. I BF her so she doesn't have to dance all night, making sure she is relaxed and somewhat "hot" for it. 2 or 3 tequillas usually reduce the inhibitions (if there were any). I will give her money at the end to temporarily alleviate her vast financial hassles, and finally give her a session or two that she should enjoy.

Most Thai bargirls will allow themselves enjoyment and orgasms on occasions, unlike western working women who let themselves go more rarely.

Most bargirls are keen to see me again. If not, then I probably chose unwisely, which happens occasionally with really stunning girls.

M P Lurker

12-30-09, 15:01

Pretty much same for me... but I negotiated a threesome lower as they obviously thought there would be less work involved... boy were they wrong (and kind of pissed off too). I also got a lot of "up to you" responses.
You stingy bestard! :D Fancy paying an amount that had them pissed off! :( ;)

Goyave

12-30-09, 15:20

... Believe it or not many girls feel shy to discuss a price.
...
If I have good chemistry with a girl, we would have been kissing in the bar already...

IMHO, when a girl allows you to kiss her in front of other people in a public place, she should not be too shy to discuss her price.

YMMV, but according to my own experience, in the great majority of cases, a girl that you just met and who says "up to you" is just trying her luck and hopes to get more money than the going rates, thinking that you might be a newbie or that you might not know what the regular prices are.

Neufie

12-30-09, 15:45

Obviously the girl would nott be happy if she gets well below the going rate. Believe it or not many girls feel shy to discuss a price. At a bar I do not appear stingy with drinks and therefore girls rarely discuss the price before going with me.

I never get into extended negotiation over prices. This would be a mood killer for probably both of us.

Believe it or not, some girls have not discussed ST or LT either. If I don't discuss it, that means I'm happy with ST. Some girls rarely do LT at all. This could mean she has to go home to mum and dad or the Thai BF. ALWAYS say when you want LT and make sure she repeats it! Then ask what time she has to leave. This saves lots of misunderstandings.

Unlike Tansak, I find it pointless to discuss what the girl will and won't do. Most girls will tell you beforehand if they have any aversion to real basics like kissing for example. I am strange in that I don't have a good time unless the girl also has a good time or is an incredible actress. Therefore I don't want anything special that the girl does not enjoy. Obviously I expect the minimum of BBBJ, sex in various positions, kissing, DATY, etc. and usually get it.

I only occasionally run into girls who don't do BBBJ or kissing or DATY, and most of these will have given hints to this before going with them.

If I have good chemistry with a girl, we would have been kissing in the bar already (its important to have clean fresh mouth before going to the bar). So I already will know how keen she is.

Obviously I do not wish to subject girls to degradation. I see that as a Psychological problem.

I believe taking a bar girl is about helping her and she rewarding me for that. I help her sell a few drinks to keep the boss happy. I BF her so she doesn't have to dance all night, making sure she is relaxed and somewhat "hot" for it. 2 or 3 tequillas usually reduce the inhibitions (if there were any). I will give her money at the end to temporarily alleviate her vast financial hassles, and finally give her a session or two that she should enjoy.

Most Thai bargirls will allow themselves enjoyment and orgasms on occasions, unlike western working women who let themselves go more rarely.

Most bargirls are keen to see me again. If not, then I probably chose unwisely, which happens occasionally with really stunning girls.

Mick, I agree, except to say that I find discussing things before hand, usually is the way to go for me. This can be done in a not so serious way, and can also be fun. You have the edge in language ability I do not, so your style reflects that. You are also more experienced than most in forum. The rest of us have to play a litte different. Ha Ha, I have also seen you with stunners that didn't disapoint. Bunked in room next to you when I met you so I know. Any all the best!, and a Happy NY to you and all. I am looking at 7th for my return.

Regards,

M P Lurker

12-30-09, 17:20

IMHO, when a girl allows you to kiss her in front of other people in a public place, she should not be too shy to discuss her price.

YMMV, but according to my own experience, in the great majority of cases, a girl that you just met and who says "up to you" is just trying her luck and hopes to get more money than the going rates, thinking that you might be a newbie or that you might not know what the regular prices are.
Quite right! "Up to you" is hoping for a better than average deal. As I can speak Thai, they would know I am not a newbie though. So I believe they merely expect to be treated fairly.

The girl will mention the price if she is not excessively shy and has any concern at all that she might not get her going rate, and especially if her minimum rate is higher than average. Some girls are just pleased to get a customer. Others are real busy. So it is falacious to think every girl will be happy with the same amount.

I don't say everyone should go with "up to you" but it works O.K. for me as I pay more than fairly and good performers are always happy.

Many girls are shy to kiss in public. They believe it would give every guy in the bar a license to try to kiss them. I therefore take time and a few drinks before trying and then usually use something to hide our faces so the kiss cannot be seen explicitly by most people in the bar. I also would also evaluate her level of friendliness first too. If she is rubbing herself on you, that is a good sign.

If the girl is playful enough to want to sneek sly kisses, then you know you have good chemistry going.

Goyave

12-30-09, 17:51

Quite right! "Up to you" is hoping for a better than average deal. As I can speak Thai, they would know I am not a newbie though...
...
Some girls are just pleased to get a customer. Others are real busy. So it is falacious to think every girl will be happy with the same amount...
...
Many girls are shy to kiss in public. They believe it would give every guy in the bar a license to try to kiss them. I therefore take time and a few drinks before trying and then usually use something to hide our faces so the kiss cannot be seen explicitly by most people in the bar. I also would also evaluate her level of friendliness first too. If she is rubbing herself on you, that is a good sign.

If the girl is playful enough to want to sneek sly kisses, then you know you have good chemistry going.

I also can speak Thai, not fluently, but enough to be understood on everyday life and P4P matters.

I never kiss a Thai girl in public and I'm quite discreet in my approach. I usually whispers my questions in one of their ears. If I have to make an offer first, I will take into account several parameters (her looks, her attitude, what is on the menu, etc.) after my short interview, and not only the average going rate in the venue or area.

If the girl directly states a price that I know being the regular rate, I still can offer some incentives for things that I consider being "extra service" and give her a good tip at the end of our session if she deserves it.

Opebo

12-30-09, 19:40

i recently visited two thai go-go bars in sutthisan, as well as peered in the doors of several others. one was the large and luxurious rainbow bar, which was not of course really my style. it had a big crowd on a weeknight and lots of very pretty girls. price quoted was the standard 1,500 for short time. the girls here are far better looking than the norm in the farang areas, but of course i cannot speak to the service as 1,500 is too expensive for me. however if you like very tall slim girls they can be found here, which is something i rarely see any other place. some girls are tattooed, some not, but at least very few fatties.

we also checked out a much more basic, smaller, lower end place across the street, which charged the same price for beers and girls (a large beer with ice for two people will end up billing you about 140-170 baht, even though the beer itself is usually only 90 baht). this lower-end or rougher looking place had a much better atmosphere and the girls looked better - by that i mean rougher and more drug-addled, and thus one might presume more amenable in the bedroom. they were however still much better looking than anything i normally see in the farang go-gos. (to clarify it is true that i never go inside farang gogos, but i do sometimes walk down pantpong, soi cowboy, and walking street and look at who is taunting at the door, or peek inside the door).

i have to say though, that there was some feeling of risk at establishments in the area, solely because i was the only farang present anywhere. at the rainbow gogo, a very tense and taught looking thai man who was sitting alone drinking a bottle of wiskey did look at me a long time and with an expression of hatred. i'm not used to agression, as my profound weakness makes attacks upon me ignoble, but in this case i think he just hated to see 'one of them' infiltrating. it came to nothing of course.. just an uncomfortable moment.

there are many small and i'll bet reasonably prices short time hotels in the area, and my thai companion agreed that for the quality, 1,500 was very reasonable. reasonable, but alas far beyond our budget that night, so i cannot report on the actual service.

Member #3428

12-30-09, 20:55

You stingy bestard! :D Fancy paying an amount that had them pissed off! :( ;)

No I not mean that, pissed off that they thought going together would mean less work for them :D

Nabucco

12-30-09, 21:34

There are many small and I'll bet reasonably prices short time hotels in the area, and my Thai companion agreed that for the quality, 1,500 was very reasonable. Reasonable, but alas far beyond our budget that night, so I cannot report on the actual service.Don't underestimate the local wisdom, but also do not judge by appearances and preconceived notions of "quality" in Thailand.

NicFrenchy

12-31-09, 04:50

When a girl says that it's "up to me", I will insist and remind her that I am the customer and that she is the provider, therefore, she must tell me her price.

Well, it isn't always that simple. Don't forget we aren't dealing with "Appliances" but human beings.

I have taken BG7 girls before and also got the "up to you" answer. For most girls, this is a very competitive environment (often more girls than punters) so they do not want to lose out on a sale because they quote what they consider to be a high price.

You see, BG7 has a lot of very stingy customers and many of them would run away from a girl quoting 1000 for ST. To avoid losing business, the girls often ask customers "how much you can pay?" to evaluate where the customer sees "her" price-wise. If the customer quotes a price (lower than what she expects) it gives her the opportunity to accept the offer without the customer walking away.

Now, what I do in BG7 and with freelancers, I always offer 500 for ST with a promise of 500 tip if the service is very good. this eliminates the "I not smoke, no Daty" providers, because then they know they won't get a tip.
It usually woks great because the girl knows she needs to work hard for the extra 500.