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Last year in Tilac, I was sitting there watching the ladies dance and one of the girls not dancing at the time came over and sat about 1 foot from me. She was quite overweight, at least by Thai standards, and did nothing for me at all. I completely ignored her and never said a word to her, and she didn't say anything to me either, not even hello, she just stared at me, finally after about 3-4 minutes of this, I went outside for a smoke. I figured she would be gone when I came back in. Wrong, she actually follows me outside, leans in close to me, and the first words out of her mouth are, "You tip me 100 baht?" My response of course was, "No", nothing else. I just couldn't believe the balls on this girl, she wanted a tip for doing absolutely nothing . At least Kumbu's fat mama put some effort into her little scam. I'd rather tip the doorman at Emporium, at least he salutes me!
Don't worry Kumbu, it can only get better!
New Old Guy
09-17-10, 20:09
I was at Shox (300 B. cover) three or four nights ago with a Pattaya girl, and wasn't particularly impressed, however it must be said, there are some worth to take out. We shared a table with two well dressed Chinese guys and they young Thai GFs, these two where among the best looking in the club. Cheerful and friendly people really.
I spot an East Europe chick, barely decent looks, just for fun I make an approach , she probably had noticed I was accompanied, the second or word that comes out of her mouth was "buziness". So I ask if business was tough or easy, she says "eazy", yeah right in fact she was so pissed to have wasted 300 B. that marches out leaving her full beer bottle behind. That is what the biatch deserved until she gets her attitude adjusted.
The best moment was when I was about to leave, I hook up this hottie (T.) while going to the bathroom, I for sure wasn't in my best looks however she is kind, tells me she was celebrating her birthday and I get the number.
I wait two days before texting and she is happy to see me at some BTS station. I look at hear in full calm and daylight and she is a full 9 by any standard, clean looking and nice attitude. I channleng her to try chees at a French restaurant, she was presented with the "easy" ones but does not pass the test anyway :). The restaurant is expensive, but not enough to break a travelling gentleman anyway.
Things start going downhill as T. feels obliged to join her friend at Climax, that has a 200 B. cover. I do not know what is wrong with this second girl but she is such an uneducated biatch, to not to even say hello, forget about smiling or small talk. Not a bad body with the tight black dress, but the face seems to be of the typical hardened country woman, sorry I cannot give a better description. She is waiting for I don't know who but just standing close to her makes me unconfortable, and I am a quite tolerant guy.
Anyway, the live band at Climax sucks ass gloriously, they go over all the current hits and not one comes out less than vilified. Add tiredness to cacophony, and I want to leave as the second set starts. After some hesitation, my catch wants to stay, and we kiss goodbye. I was kind of expecting a call later in the night, but according to her story she spontaneously offered the following day, her phone battery died. At that point I am well in Phucket and looking forward. I wanted to text her some Thai words about being influenceable, but refrain to do so, one never knows and I might still use the number for a next time.
At Climax I see only one I would have taken but to be honest I wasn't even sure about her true sex. But, what do I know, you may have a better luck than me there.
While I've visited Soi Cowboy quite a few times during the last year I've never been in NEP. I decided tonight to give NEP a shot. I was there for about 1 ½ hour and I visited two bars.
Angel Witch. Plenty of shows almost continuously. Girls are cheerful but it seems they do not care a lot for the customers. Lady drinks at 145 and probably the fastest “time with the customer” I've seen in any bar in BKK. They have a drink, chat (kind of) for 5 minutes and then they disappear. I stayed there only for 15 minutes maximum.
Carousel. That was a most interesting experience. There are not many shows there but there is continuous dancing in two stages and some kind of shows (I show a lesbian and a SM one) but not something special. The girls though, although not among the prettiest in the market, are giving a lot to the customer and are hot. One very sweet beauty approached me and asked for a drink. I bought one for her (at 130) and she stayed for me for about 30 minutes, lap dancing, DFKing, and touching me everywhere. She asked me to take her out but I said that I was not planning this for tonight. In any case she quoted the ST price (2000, which I found very expensive) but she understood that there was no chance and she didn't insist. I didn't comment on the price since I had really no intention to take her out. After this she asked for another drink and she stayed with me until I left continuing the lap dancing, DFK etc. I had a hard one for most of the time she was with me. I really liked her but I was not on the mood to take a girl out tonight; I was just trying to manage my jet lag before going to bed (which actually didn't work out since I am still awake!). I tipped her and I registered her in my memory for a potential next visit. A pretty nice and “horny” 1 hour for 400 baht (excluding the tip) it's for me a very good deal.
Generally I was not disappointed by NEP and I might go there again. I've read so many negative reports about NEP in various sites and I was expecting a less interesting experience. I think NEP worths a visit.
This story might sound not very relevant but given my jet lag tonight I decided to share it with you (hopping that sorry telling will make me sleep!).
I use to go quite often in a bar in Soi Cowboy. I started to go there about 1 year ago and I've taken out 3 girls. The first one I took out (twice) was not there in my next visits and another girl told me that she has gone back to her village. End of this story.
One night at the bar two girls approached me together (I will call them for now on Girl1 and Girl2). They asked me to buy them a drink and I did that. I was quite on the mood to take a girl out and while I was attracted by both of them I chose Girl1 (in principle I do not do trios). Actually, and for my taste, Girl2 is more attractive but I felt a much better chemistry with Girl1. We've had a very sexually intense night together and it was also a GFE with a good discussion on life and politics after the sex.
After a couple of weeks I visited again the bar looking for Girl1. I went there quite late and she has obviously been bar fined. Alas, the Girl2 appears in front of me. We have a couple of drinks and I decided for ST. Another nice GFE but not sexually so intense as with the Girl1. After the sex we chatted and at a certain point she tells me that Girl1 has asked her if I've been in the bar after the night we went together and she also asked me if it was OK to say to Girl1 that we've been together. I told her “Look, do not run and tell her that we've been together but if you are friends and you talk then it is up to you to tell her or not”.
After approximately two months I am back to the bar. Girl2 is not there and Girl1 is dancing the moment I enter the bar. When she show me she gave me a big smile and once she finished her dance she came and sat with me. A small talk, she says me a sad story about the past two months and we decide again to leave together. Again a very intense sex that drained me out completely and a nice talk after. No mention from her site about Girl2. But she has done something that I really didn't like it. When I gave her the money she counted them and she asked if this is the same amount I gave her last time. I said yes and she said “hmm, usually it is more”. I made no comment on this but I was pissed off.
Last part of the story. A couple of weeks ago I go again in the bar. The very moment I enter the bar and before even manage to identify who is who inside, Girl2 appears in front of me with a big smile and a hug. We sat together but she says to me that she has immediately to go dancing and that she will come latter. Once she leaves for the stage I have a look around and I see diagonally Girl1 staring at me with a sad look. OK, I was pissed off with her with the comment on the payment but the sad face made me to feel a bit “guilty” because I didn't see her (how stupid men can be some times!). At the same time some other girls were looking at her and I felt that she felt that she lost face (and we all now that this is not good for Thais). I smile to her and I invite her to my table. She comes, I explain to her that I really didn't see her when I entered the bar and I offer a drink. She starts hugging and kissing me and now the sad face is on Girl2. Girl1 says to me that Girl2 has told her that she loves me and that she felt very connected to me the night we went together. I did not reply to these comments and I just try to make a general discussion. When the dance finishes Girl2 comes down from the stage she gives my a Thai greeting without any smile and goes to the opposite side of the bar. It might sounds a bit stupid but I felt guilty again and I asked Girl1 if it is OK to invite Girl2 for a drink also. She tell me OK and such I did. Now the three of us have a drink, we chatted about 10 minutes for general things and then I decided to leave.
Now, the point is that I really like the bar and I want to go again but I don't want to get involved in this issue with the 2 girls (which of course I've partially caused). I've decided that the best is not to visit the bar for a couple of months (maybe more) but really I don't know what to do when I'll go there again in case that both girls are there. I do not want to continue with them but I want to be polite and not to “ignore” them.
This story might sound not very relevant but given my jet lag tonight I decided to share it with you (hopping that sorry telling will make me sleep!).
...., the point is that I really like the bar and I want to go again but I don't want to get involved in this issue with the 2 girls (which of course I've partially caused). I've decided that the best is not to visit the bar for a couple of months (maybe more) but really I don't know what to do when I'll go there again in case that both girls are there. I do not want to continue with them but I want to be polite and not to “ignore” them.
Any girl #3 around?
Member #4698
09-18-10, 00:43
Now, the point is that I really like the bar and I want to go again but I don't want to get involved in this issue with the 2 girls (which of course I've partially caused).
Lifeingr,
You write that you "don't want to get involved in this issue." Ok, then don’t put up with it. It is as simple as that. The girls are just playing a game with you. They sense weakness on your part and are trying to take advantage. Go to the bar the next time you feel like going to the bar - period. If you want #1 then buy her a drink. If you want #2 then buy her a drink. If you want girl #3, 4, or 5 then buy them all drinks. Nobody really cares. You are the man and this is the big mango. If they sulk or frown, ignore them. It is an act.
Forget this rule and the next thing you will be telling us is you are engaged to be married and your fiancé has promised you she will quit the biz. By the way, what bar are we talking about? Just curious.
Generally I was not disappointed by NEP and I might go there again. I've read so many negative reports about NEP in various sites and I was expecting a less interesting experience. I think NEP worths a visit.
I actually prefer Nana over Cowboy. Angelwitch and Carousel are both worth a try, but there are better gogos there.
Mr Jetsetter
09-18-10, 04:35
I actually prefer Nana over Cowboy. Angelwitch and Carousel are both worth a try, but there are better gogos there.
A little more specificity, perhaps? THX
......Now, the point is that I really like the bar and I want to go again but I don't want to get involved in this issue with the 2 girls.....
I agree with Natty, these girls trying to make you feel guilty and maybe get some extra $$$ from you. They think you won't be thinking about the 30 other guys that paid their barfines, when you were elsewhere for a few weeks. It always amazes me how they think they can manipulate you into feeling guilty by pouting - as if you are not a paying customer, but a boyfriend.
Remember, you have the cash, so you call the shots! If the girls start some shit with you, talk to the mamasan about it.
On the other hand, you could BF them both for a night.....:p
This is the second part of my three-part report from a loser night on Thursday. It was the night I arrived in BKK, so I was tired and jetlagged, but horny as hell. Here is the installment on how things went bad in Climax. Following that will be a report on my experience in Nana Liquid, which ended up with me grabbing a cutie. And this cutie turned out to be rather uninspiring and not worthy of the moment. And for those of you who sent me words of encouragment, let me tell you now that Friday night was the exact opposite to Thursday night - a SPECTACULAR success. Needless to say, that report will follow.
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As I started to walk out of Soi Cowboy towards Suk, I felt a drop or two of rain, and decided to grab a taxi. It got me there in 5 minutes for 40B – certainly worth it. I entered at around 1:50am, and the place was around 70% full. There were plenty of girls around, and plenty of guys too. I recognized some of the faces from my past trips, and that was a little discomforting. I walked through the crowd, feeling the eyes on my back, sensing the assessment that was going on. There must have been a dozen pretty girls in their early twenties that I could easily imagine myself with, but I wasn't really getting the vibe from any of them.
So I walked down the aisle past the DJ booth, looking carefully at each face as I passed it. There were three or four real screamers there, but I just wanted to scout for now. I stopped in that holding area on the far side of the club, got my drink from a waiter, and then made my way around the back. Again, plenty of girls were scoping me out( not that they found me attractive or anything, they were trying to figure out what my potential was), but I didn't really feel the vibe. I circled all the way around, and then climbed those stairs and perched myself in front of the DJ booth, from which I had a great vantage point.
A couple of girls started to make looksies with me, but nothing struck my fancy. And then, out of no where, came a poke in the shoulder. I turned around and standing before me was a smiling, sexy little thing. She was perhaps 5ft tall in totality, including her 3 inch heels. She had flowy, partially permed hair, and a cute-as-hell, pouty little face. She was curved just like a woman should be, but was the epitome of petite.
It took me a moment, but I recognized this little package (all 80 pounds of her) . I had been with her last January (or was it last August?). Her name is Lek, and she lives up to her name. I met her late one night, something like 4:30am at Climax, and we ended up having hours and hours of spectacular sex well into the mid-morning daylight. She had sex toys, she loved DATY, she enjoyed giving BBBJ, she liked to rub and kiss little Kumbu. In short, she was a dynamo in bed. But on our first night, I told her that I was not interested in having a GF, and she agreed. On our second night together, the same conversation ensued – and she agreed. But then she disregarded these conversations, and started treating our relationship with the expectation of monogamy, as well as the obligation to go out every night to dinner, with friends, etc. So she suckered me into a GF relationship despite agreeing to not being a GF. A little like that Seinfeld episode where this guy finds a dating loophole by intentionally losing a bet so Elaine will go out with him.
Anyway, I ended up ditching her in a rather uncool way. I told her I was leaving for Hong Kong for a few days (during which time I went to Pattaya, of course), and that I would call her when I returned. When I returned, I never called her. She called a couple of times and I never answered, and she eventually got the message. In retrospect, that was a rather juvenile and cruel way to handle things, and I do regret it, but there you have it.
So here she was now, standing before me, with a huge smile on her face that just screamed 'You muther fucker, I hope you have not been castrated yet because I want the pleasure of doing that.'
We talked for a few minutes. This was the most strained conversation you can imagine, and given that I was dead tired from 20 hours of flying, and I didn't respond as smoothly as I perhaps should have, but here is a sample of what I remember:
Angry Lek: So how've you been?
Kumbu: Umm, ok, I guess. You?
Angry Lek: Oh, you care? Well, I've been ok too. You've been here in Bangkok?
Kumbu: Umm...no, I just got back tonight.
Angry Lek: From where, Hong Kong?
Kumbu: Umm, no, actually, from – oh, ok, I deserved that.
Angry Lek: No, you deserve something else.
Kumbu: Mmm, umm...
But I managed to get away from her after a few minutes, and I dropped my drink on someone's table and got the hell out of there. In June, a similar thing happened to me in Climax too – an old flame saw me and gave me hell for being there without having called her. So I think I have farmed the fertile soils of Climax a little too much. Time to leave her fallow for a while.
I agree with Natty, these girls trying to make you feel guilty and maybe get some extra $$$ from you. They think you won't be thinking about the 30 other guys that paid their barfines, when you were elsewhere for a few weeks. It always amazes me how they think they can manipulate you into feeling guilty by pouting - as if you are not a paying customer, but a boyfriend.
Remember, you have the cash, so you call the shots! If the girls start some shit with you, talk to the mamasan about it.
On the other hand, you could BF them both for a night.....:p
Well, guys I agree with you. It is my decision entirely and I understand they play a game but even in a game I just want to stay polite. In any case I wrote the story because I've nothing better to do yesterday night (jet lagged) but I appreciate your replies.
@Natty. No threat to end up engaged with any of them I really know how to keep things professional. It is just that I am acting myself sometimes and enjoy all this fake "drama" that the girls playing and I decide to be part of it. Just for the fun.
I actually prefer Nana over Cowboy. Angelwitch and Carousel are both worth a try, but there are better gogos there.
A little more specificity, perhaps? THX Yeah, that would be helpful.
Time to leave her fallow for a while.Maybe not Kumbu!
In these situations I always say that I am "dead tired" from working too much in "Hong Kong", that I "missed her too much" and that she should be "very very nice to me". (Devious smile.) Then tell her, "I feel very sexy, and will definitely need two girls tonight". Then inquire "do you have a really beautiful nineteen year old 'A list' super model friend(?), or shall I just try to find one to go with the both of us myself?".
This:
#1. Confuses the hell out of her and gives you an easy out without getting slapped.
#2. Shuts her the fuck up (she knows you are playing her better than she is you. Remember TIT.)
#3. Makes her understand the ground rules.
#4. Creates a great "local BKK player" rep.
#5. Turns you back into "da boss". :D
New Old Guy
09-18-10, 10:12
Enjoyable story Kumbu. I did not see that many hotties in Climax but maybe I wasn't looking the right side :)
How a girl that goes hooking everynight, can expect to be treated like a GF on top of her lifestyle, I cannot really understand. My experience from the Latin side of the world is that yes they can play jealous and make big scenes, but it's clear to everybody the reason is they do not want to see your money going to the competition. To be honest, I would do the same with my clients :)
I suppose the only reason they think they can get away with the BF/GF BS here in Thailand, is because Western idiots fall for it all the time.
In similar situations, what has worked best for me, is that if I still feel the urge, and no clear better choice is available, I take the old flame for a porno experience as in being dominant and a bit rough. Then I say something to the effect of "sorry, I fuck for money not love, just like you". That always helped putting things in balance.
I think if they are serious in their play, they should spend some more effort that just sad faces and talking, like throwing a free fuck or plot some heart touching situation. We all can be taken for a ride, but at least have it done artistically :)
This is the second part of my three-part report from a loser night on Thursday. ......
But I managed to get away from her after a few minutes, and I dropped my drink on someone's table and got the hell out of there. In June, a similar thing happened to me in Climax too – an old flame saw me and gave me hell for being there without having called her. So I think I have farmed the fertile soils of Climax a little too much. Time to leave her fallow for a while.
We know we pay them to leave....you didn't pay her enough! lol...
That is the downside of hooking up pretty well.
Not judging, of course, you seem to be cool on how to sort it out and that shows your awareness and knowledge
Others might not be as cool and will fall in the trap!
Member #4698
09-18-10, 13:14
Well, guys I agree with you. It is my decision entirely and I understand they play a game ... No threat to end up engaged with any of them I really know how to keep things professional. It is just that I am acting myself sometimes and enjoy all this fake "drama" that the girls playing and I decide to be part of it. Just for the fun.
I thought this might be the case and as such I hope I did not come down too hard on you in my last post. That was not my intention. As long as you know what's going on and enjoy the "drama" then go for it and have a good time. But don't go too far with the game and outright lie to them or promise them things you know you won't deliver on. That is part of treating them "nice" and with respect.
You might want to try a ménage with your two girls (in the spirit of politeness, lol). I don't partake that often, but once in a while, with the right girls it can be worthwhile. Stay thirsty.
This is the final part of the three-part report on a semi-failed evening in BKK. But don't despair, the next night was firecrackers all around, nay, fireworks on the 4th of July. So stay tuned. And if you don't care for the reports, I might suggest using the Ignore list.
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It was now 2:05am, and as I literally sprinted out of Climax, I decided it was a good time to hit Nana Liquid. I made my way down there, and on the way saw a plethora of FLs along Suk. It was here that I questioned my sexuality. It was dark, and I saw a girl walking towards me, perhaps 30 yards away, with the light behind her and so all I saw was a silhouette. She was tall, and clearly dressed to pick up guys. Her hips were swaying from side to side, and given that all I could see was a silhouette, I could focus on the proportions. She was superbly proportioned – a perfect waist, beautiful hips, and spectacular legs. She was statuesque in every sense of the word. But from the way she walked, I slowly realized that she was a guy. And as she approached, her identity as a guy completely clear in my mind, I saw her face and almost fell over at its beauty. And she smiled at me in the most demure fashion – I was smitten.
Thankfully, the moment went by so fast that I was unable to react. And as such, before I could do or say anything, she had walked past me and was gone forever. I wonder what would have happened had I been given the opportunity to talk with her. I am not interested in guys in any way, but jeez, this made me wonder.
So I walked into the Nana Hotel parking lot at around 2:20am. There were plenty of girls (and not-so-girls) there, but nothing worth even a moment's effort. Inside Nana Liquid, there were plenty of people. It was actually quite full – all the tables were taken, and there were loads of guys hanging around the peripherals. I walked through the crowd and noticed that all of the good looking girls were already paired off with guys. Hmm, am I too late?
Well, I decided to be patient. I walked through to the far-end bar, near the pool room. I sat there for a while, at the bar, looking for available beauty. Seeing none, I wandered through the crowd to the other side, near the other bar. There I ensconced myself with a gin/tonic and started my people watching.
There was a very small girl standing in front of me giving me the eye-ball treatment. No thanks – pass. She was too skinny and small for me. All I could hope for was that she did not make an approach, and luckily I was able to fend her off the entire night. Other than that, there were no real prospects to speak of. So I turned my attention to the other people around the club.
There was a large age range and ethnicity range in this club. Some guys looked teenish, others looked to be in their sixties, and plenty of guys in between. There were white guys, Indian guys, Arab guys, a few black guys (even one guy wearing a full-on dashiki!), and the ethnically-ambiguous guys, such as myself.
There was a really good looking, athletically built, young, clean-shaven, well dressed guy across the way from me who was getting no attention from the girls at all. He was dark skinned – his skin was perhaps the color of Ethiopian skin? But he did not have Ethiopian features – they were more European. But he was just a good looking dude all around, and it was odd that he was getting nothing from the girls. But then I saw why – and it wasn't his skin color. He was sitting on his stool, not moving at all, grasping his drink. I think the girls were seeing this, and were a little intimidated by it. They want to have fun, and a guy that is this tightly wound up is a little hard to unwind. But with his looks, physique and dress sense, I am sure he got snapped up at some point in the night.
Meanwhile, an Armenian looking guy (I have no idea what his ethnicity was, but he had a classic Armenian look) came to the bar and wanted to order a drink. He looked at the menu, and not seeing what he wanted, he negotiated with the bar tender to make him his favorite drink. It took several minutes for this to occur, and when the drink arrived, I was floored – it was a strawberry daquiri. With a little umbrella in it.
He pays for it, and as he is leaving, his eyes meet mine, and his expression changed. And to my surprise, what I saw in his face was...pity. I then realized that this little person-analysis thing that I do is so full of shit, because these people are doing the very same thing to me. The good-looking black dude got my pity, but here I was getting pity from Armenian daquiri dude.
Ok, enough of this shit – time to find me a beauty. As Armenian dude walks away, I see standing right behind him two very pretty girls. They looked to be in their early twenties, spry and bubbly. One of them was clearly prettier than the other, but even the less-pretty girl was a scorcher in her own right. The less pretty one had skin the color of milked coffee, a straight nose, and small,almond-like eyes. Her hair fell randomly down to her shoulders, and this was a very good look for her. She was wearing a frilly dress that revealed a tight waist and nice legs. The legs were a little slim for my liking, but shapely and certainly Kumbu-worthy.
But her super-hot friend was something else. She had a pert little nose, with full, pouty lips, and large, very, very prominent cheek bones. In fact, her cheek bones were so prominent, it was the most noticeable thing about her. As such, her eyes were far larger than most Thai girls' – they were downright cat-like. They were so large that it gave her that baby-like look, with the large, bright, pointed eyes. And to accentuate this look, she had her hair tied into pig-tails! Hah, that was the clincher.
So I saw pig-tails first, and my eyes nearly popped out of my head. She saw this reaction, and smiled at me. I smiled back, and the buzzing in my shorts was suddenly deafening. She looked down coyly at her drink, and then looked up at me to see if I was still watching. I was.
Her friend was facing her, and had her back to me. So pig-tails whispers something to her friend, and the friend turns around. This was the first time I saw her friend's face, and as I said, it was pretty, although not quite like pig-tails. I noticed that pig-tails was far livelier than friend, when she looked over at me I just saw far more interest and attraction than with the friend. I was liking this girl, and she was liking me too, or so I believed.
So we did this for a few moments more – splitting the eye gaze between the two girls - until the friend says something to pig-tails, and she stops moving entirely. A moment passes, and pig-tails shrugs her shoulders to what her friend said. The friend then says something else, and pig-tails slumps her shoulders a little. And then pig-tails says something really loud to her friend, and I think I read her lips. What I read was 'May chaawp'.
Mmmm, pig-tails just told the friend that she did not like me. Oh poor Kumbu – shot down. Rejection – about as common as the common cold, and just as much fun. The way I chose to interpret this newest event was that the friend told pig-tails that she likes Kumbu, and asked whether pig-tails likes Kumbu too. Pig-tails, being the good friend, gives up Kumbu for the sake of her friend. You can see how this would be my preferred interpretation, can't you?
From then on, I got nothing from pig-tails. Nothing. She turned her back to me and started dancing by herself, and she did not look back at me even once. Yikes, the power of friendship. Ok, so friend it is, I suppose. So the next time friend looked over, I raised my glass to her in a gesture of 'cheers', and she returned the gesture. I walked over, clinked glasses with hers, and started the regular conversation. Hi, I'm, Kumbu, what's your name. I'm from America, where are you from. Etc.
Long story short, we danced for half an hour (pig tails was very deliberately looking the other direction the whole time), and then we took a taxi back to my hotel. Upon entering, she walked in slowly, inspecting everything in the room. She slowly sat down on the bed, and asked me for a drink. Damn it, I forgot to stock the mini-bar with my own drinks, this is going to cost me a fortune. Anyway, I pulled out a Singha for her, and she sipped it as we talked.
Her name is Nit, 26 years old, works in a restaurant on Suk as a manager (she manages the dinner shift, so she can sleep late). Cool. She is well-educated, she even went to university. She has interests in European literature, but realizes there is no money in that. So she did her degree in business. I tried to ask her about pig-tails, her friend, and as soon as that topic came up, she recoiled. Turns out Nit had had a no-good sonofabitch Thai boyfriend who she had been with for two years. Then one day (very recently, I believe) the BF tells her that he is in love with pig-tails, her best friend since childhood, and he wants to break it off. Pig-tails, when confronted with this by Nit, insisted that she knew nothing of this, and was not interested in BF at all. But nonetheless, this put strain on their relationship. So tonight was supposed to be pig-tails' attempt to take Nit out for a night of fun. And so when Nit decided I was the one, pig-tails was not only obliged to step aside, in a sense, it helped alleviate the problems between the two.
But the fact that I was now asking about pig-tails meant to Nit that pig-tails was more attractive than she was, and this just brought up the feelings on inadequacy that the experience with BF raised. That's Relationship Analysis Kumbu's take on things. None of this was intentional on my part, of course. I was simply trying to be polite and figure out who her best friend was. But just asking about the girl seemed to put Nit into a sour mood.
After that, things were not very good. She showered by herself, and then me. The lights were turned off entirely, and things began. Not much of significance happened – no kissing, just some heavy groping, lots of breast suckling, no DATY, straight missionary sex, and that was it. Upon finishing, she asked if it would be ok for her to leave, since she needs to be home to take care of her mother. I told her to go for it. I paid her 1000B, plus 100B for taxi, and she left.
It was anti-climactic, uninspiring, and not really worth all the effort. But it unloaded the gun, and so at least now I can think properly.
And so the Dodgers lost another opening-day game. But here is the key: losing the opening day match does not mean anything for the World Series. You could lose that first game and go on to win every game after that. And that's what I am hoping for the rest of this trip. The World Series is coming home again.
Enjoyable story Kumbu. I did not see that many hotties in Climax but maybe I wasn't looking the right side :)
How a girl that goes hooking everynight, can expect to be treated like a GF on top of her lifestyle, I cannot really understand. My experience from the Latin side of the world is that yes they can play jealous and make big scenes, but it's clear to everybody the reason is they do not want to see your money going to the competition. To be honest, I would do the same with my clients :)
I suppose the only reason they think they can get away with the BF/GF BS here in Thailand, is because Western idiots fall for it all the time.
In similar situations, what has worked best for me, is that if I still feel the urge, and no clear better choice is available, I take the old flame for a porno experience as in being dominant and a bit rough. Then I say something to the effect of "sorry, I fuck for money not love, just like you". That always helped putting things in balance.
I think if they are serious in their play, they should spend some more effort that just sad faces and talking, like throwing a free fuck or plot some heart touching situation. We all can be taken for a ride, but at least have it done artistically :)I can speak from experience who these thai girl any be jealous. It is simple they see the fucking for money as work and a job. They are there because of there life situation. We all know that you can sometime cross the barrier of work and pleasure. Especially if the client guide the interaction that way in the heat of passion.
New Old Guy
09-18-10, 14:47
Even better Kumbu!
I remember now that I have been reading you great reports when stuck in falangland with nothing better to do that fantasizing. I whish I could have just a fraction of your writing skills, you certainly manage the convey the whole atmosphere of a night at the clubs.
The note you made about the enticing LB you crossed, is not diminutive of being masculine at all. I come from a country where men somehow got a reputation of being good lovers, and they try every trick on the book to keep it so. Despite that, I see that too much often they patronize flocks of truly repulsive TVs from latin america, going for quickies in their cars and taking all kind of risks. Men are so stupid most of the time and when it comes to sex, they become even more stupid.
What you say about the refusals that can be had is so right, I have experienced the same many times. Some girls just adore me, other do not even want to talk. As unpleasant for our egos that is, we must use these mishaps in a Zen approach, to raise an high wall between us and what repels us.
At the same time we will be always ready to open a door to our heart and wallet when something from outside will be knocking with the right cadence.
Then about the bad, uninspiring sex that can be had from heartbroken girls. I am not sure I would be able to accept so passively as you did. Seems like you ran into a genuine coldfish and her Thai BF had prently of good reasons to drop her. I am honest, the moment I bring a girl up to the room and she does not want to kiss, that is the time she goes home with strict taxi money only. With this I am not criticizing you at all, you are clearly a sensible gentleman, confident in your own choices, may the divine pussy guide your thrusts on the pathway to supreme ejaculation.
Thanks everybody especially Kumbu for extensive info on after hours action.
Now, I have the opposite question -
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What hour is the opening time for go-go bars at Nana & Cowboy?
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I've heard varying times around 18:00~21:00, wanted to clarify. Really I mean to ask what time are the most of the ladies there as I don't like showing up to a place before the ladies are there even if its open.
Which of the two opens earlier? Any particular bar which opens earliest?
The note you made about the enticing LB you crossed, is not diminutive of being masculine at all...Men are so stupid most of the time and when it comes to sex, they become even more stupid.So true, so true. But it is indicative of a social pressure I think, which also exists on this board by the way, to conform to an ideal of male masculinity. Anyway.
What you say about the refusals that can be had is so right, I have experienced the same many times. ...At the same time we will be always ready to open a door to our heart and wallet when something from outside will be knocking with the right cadence.Right you are, again. I too experience it regularly, but it is always an insult to the weak ego.
Then about the bad, uninspiring sex that can be had from heartbroken girls. I am not sure I would be able to accept so passively as you didYou think THAT is bad, wait until you read what happened to me on Sat night...a preview: "tilaaaaaak, I have peliod (period)."
Maybe not Kumbu!
In these situations I always say that I am "dead tired" from working too much in "Hong Kong", that I "missed her too much" and that she should be "very very nice to me". (Devious smile.) Then tell her, "I feel very sexy, and will definitely need two girls tonight". Then inquire "do you have a really beautiful nineteen year old 'A list' super model friend(?), or shall I just try to find one to go with the both of us myself?".
This:
#1. Confuses the hell out of her and gives you an easy out without getting slapped.
#2. Shuts her the fuck up (she knows you are playing her better than she is you. Remember TIT.)
#3. Makes her understand the ground rules.
#4. Creates a great "local BKK player" rep.
#5. Turns you back into "da boss". :DHoly crap, I bow to the master. Dude, you scare me...but this is great advise. I wonder if I could pull it off though. I think girls sense I am not the mac-daddy player type, but hmm, perhaps I could grow a pair and pretend to be...
now, the point is that i really like the bar and i want to go again but i don't want to get involved in this issue with the 2 girls (which of course i've partially caused). i've decided that the best is not to visit the bar for a couple of months (maybe more) but really i don't know what to do when i'll go there again in case that both girls are there. i do not want to continue with them but i want to be polite and not to “ignore” them.
the girls are just playing a game with you. they sense weakness on your part and are trying to take advantage. go to the bar the next time you feel like going to the bar - period. if you want #1 then buy her a drink. if you want #2 then buy her a drink. if you want girl #3, 4, or 5 then buy them all drinks. nobody really cares. you are the man and this is the big mango. if they sulk or frown, ignore them. it is an act.
i agree with natty, these girls trying to make you feel guilty and maybe get some extra $$$ from you.i know, i know, i should just let this go, but i can't.
with respect, i'd like to offer a different analysis of the situation. i agree that what natty and nocbj4me say is true (that money is the key here), but i think it is not in quite the same way that they suggest. i also agree with natty's advise – just go to the bar like it is any other, and don't buy into the drama. although you did say that you enjoy the drama, which is understandable. and you have a keen grasp in the fact that this is 'drama', so you are not being taken away by it.
i have a quibble, and it is not with natty bumpo or nocbj4me in particular - just a general observation of how we view the girls and their motivations. so please, no one take this as an attack on any of these members - i have the utmost respect for their contributions to the board.
my quibble (and it is just a quibble, really) is with the idea that the girls are manufacturing this drama for monetary benefit. it's easy (and rather self-serving) to assume that all these girls are sharks, in it 100% for the money. don't get me wrong – 100% of these girls are in it for the money, but i don't think each girl is in it 100% for the money. does that makes sense? i would say money is the common motivator for each girl in the business, but to then make the logical error of assuming it is the only motivator, is, well, a logical error.
motivation for any act, even those far simpler than selling your body for money, is a superbly complex thing. until recently, economists assumed that 'preference' is transitive. that is, if a person prefers product a over b, and also prefers product b over c, then that person prefers product a over c. e.g., i prefer coke over pepsi, and pepsi over dr. pepper. economists would predict i prefer coke over dr. pepper (which is true). but more recently, it has been found that this kind of thinking is too simplistic. it works with soft drinks, but not always. there are many variables in the equation, e.g., how thirsty are you? what are you drinking it with (food or booze? burgers or cheese and crackers?)? who are you drinking it with? what did you just drink before this? etc. and this is for things as simple as soft drinks.
i think working girls in bkk are primarily in the business for the money, so let's just state that as a given fact. but beyond that, being the human beings that they are, these girls have preferences within the parameters of making money. each girl has preferences that they wish to fulfill that go beyond money. one preference might be getting a steady bf who sends money from somewhere (as opposed to a string of anonymous well-paying strangers). another might be to gain face amongst her peers. yet another might be to have sex with a good looking, well-groomed, tender lover, rather than a drunken brute. i'm not suggesting any of these preferences trump the money aspect of it, but when one describes the social interactions of these girls, it is important to recognize that they, like all of us, are motivated by various and complex factors.
so lifeingr, for whatever reason, you have two girls fighting over you. it's likely that you pay well, you dress well, you are decent looking, you smell good, you speak respectfully, you don't try to stick a broom handle up their asses while in bed, and you make them cum. furthermore, i now know that many of the bars in soi cowboy recently increased the number of required bar-fines a girl must bring in per month, which increases the pressure and competition amongst the girls. their disappointment may be money motivated, or it may be motivated by any number of these other things. it is complicated, and i think of all the people on this board, you are the most likely person to know which of these factors are causing this little quarrel. trust your gut.
i would say this kind of problem is very, very common. i have spoken to dozens of gogo girls who tell tales of love found, love entrenched, and love stolen away by that two-faced b-itch she used to call a friend. so it is not uncommon.
if i were you, i would ditch this bar. it is tainted now, and you will not get the same treatment from them for a while. you should find another favorite bar and start all over again there. give it a year, wait for the institutional memory to fade, for this generation of girls to move on, and then go back and see how things are. that's my two cents.
NicFrenchy
09-19-10, 03:59
Some of you were asking for Pregnant girls.....
http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/ers/1960679845.html
What hour is the opening time for go-go bars at Nana & Cowboy?Coincidentally, had this conversation with a girl in Dollhouse (Soi Cowboy) last night. She starts work at 6pm, and customers start to arrive at that time. She says girls dribble in for the next half hour, but things are in full swing by 6:30pm. She says the opening hours vary from bar to bar, but that's the deal for Dollhouse. Never asked this question of a Nana gogo girl, perhaps someone else can fill us in on that question.
disappointing as thursday night was, i knew tonight would be better. thursday night wasn't a total waste, but i expended a great deal of energy to get back a rather nondescript sexual experience.
so i worked most of the day on friday, and got home at 6pm. napped, showered, shaved, and made the short walk down to soi cowboy. i walked around the soi a little, peering into this place and that, and once again, not sure why, i went in to dollhouse. a little while ago someone posted a negative report on this place, something about it being hit and miss, but i wanted to check it out myself.
there were perhaps 10 girls on stage when i got in. there were five or six on that rotating portion, and a further three or four along the length of the stage. there were more girls upstairs, but i couldn't see them. there were plenty of customers, most in groups of two or three, but perhaps six or seven lone rangers like myself. i found myself sitting between two such gents. the guy on my left was clearly a player, someone who was known in the bar, as the waitresses were chatting with him. the guy on my right was a larger gent, perhaps 250 pounds, but in his mid-40s, and he looked rather respectable and clean. the girls were showing him a great deal of love, even though he had not spent more than the cost of a heineken. i guess he fit the profile: caucasian, mid-40s, alone...a wallet waiting to be popped open.
i noticed that some of the girls were wearing little frilly skirt-thingies, and others were not. i figured that those who were nude were not hiding their asses, so that was a good sign. and indeed, the girls without the skirt were all sporting ripe rumps that were a feast for an ass lover. now, most of these girls had legs that i was not particularly interested in – skinny stick-like appendages. so by process of elimination, that got rid of 9/10 of the girls on stage. and the one girl that was left showing off her ass did not have the nicest of faces. so i was left feeling rather underwhelmed.
so i sipped my beer and awaited the shift-change. when it came, i was not disappointed. from this new crop of girls, there were two very, very sexy little things. the first one, #40, had a pert little bob-like hair-cut (it wasn't a bob, since it extended down to her shoulders, but there was a bob-like quality to it). she was skinner than i prefer, but her ass was really quite tasty looking. and she was certainly not shy about her ass – strutting around like a matriarch peacock, it was quite appealing. but the clincher was her face – the sweetest, sexiest pert mouth, with slanted eyes gave her a sexy chinese look.
but she was outshone by her friend. she had, easily, the nicest ass in the place. fit, round, shapely, trim, and perfect. her legs were a little thick around the ankles, but jeez, come on, how picky am i going to get? she had no breasts to speak of really, but her lower body was just mesmerizing. she was dancing very well, undulating and gyrating like someone who knows just how nice that ass is. and the clincher? she had pig-tails!!! yes, after last night's loss of the pig-tailed beauty in nana liquid, i seem to have developed a little bit of a fetish for the childish hair style.
two downsides were noticed. first, her face was not, shall we say, what you think of when you think of classical beauty. she had a mild bat-face going on, although that does sound harsh. her eyes were large, and her nose extended a little too much. it's hard to describe, but her face just wasn't her best attribute. having said that, over the 20 minutes i stared at her (sounds freeky, doesn't it?) the face began to grow on me.
the second downside was that she was clearly a mirror-dancer. that is, all she could see was her reflection in the mirror, and she was not looking anywhere else. she was on that circling part of the stage, so i got to see her from all angles, but when she was closest to me, her eyes were squarely fixated 3 feet above my head at the mirror on the wall behind me. she wasn't looking at me, she wasn't looking at the guy to my right, she wasn't looking at anyone.
so this proceeded for 20 minutes, and i decided enough was enough, and i was getting ready to split. she's nice enough, but unless you get the electricity, no point in trying to plug your thing into her outlet. crude description, i know, and i apologize.
meanwhile, all the other girls were fixated on the guy to my right. one girl came and planted herself on the stage right in front of him and started to sexy dance just for him. i'm not sure what it was, - he was not giving off any obvious signals, but i suppose he just had it going on. i counted six girls doing this – shamelessly trying to court him, and he was not returning the sentiment in any way other than a standard smile. my guess is that he was not a newbie, and that he had a reputation in the bar as a big spender. but that's just my guess.
despite this obvious money bags sitting to my right, my girl was not even looking at him. she was busy doing her own thing, oblivious to me, oblivious to the man to my right, and oblivious to how all her friends were falling over themselves to get the guy to my right to commit.
but then it happened.
on one of the passes of the circle, she looked down at me. perhaps this was by accident, or perhaps this was her plan the whole time, i don't know. but she looked down, our eyes met, and we finally had something. the next time she passed by on this circle, i wanted to see if she would look again. if she did, then we have lift off. if not, then i'm outta here.
and she did. look down at me, that is. no smile, just another glance.
ok, let's see what happens on the third circle...will she smile this time? and as she passed by, she looked at me again, this time with more determination, with more certainty...but no smile.
and then the shift changed. she left the stage, and went to sit by herself. my guess here is that she has a boyfriend who sends her money, or she is waiting for some regular customer. so given the mixed signals, i decided it would be best to keep shopping. so i left 100b with the waitress to give to her, and told her that i would return tomorrow. perhaps all it will be is a drink, or perhaps it will be more than that. a small investment, as far as i am concerned.
addendum: i *did* return the next night to find that she was not there. but this set me up for an experience with another spinner from dollhouse, a report of which is in the works.
Pahllus Maximus
09-19-10, 07:03
there was/is a bar where they dance on a glass floor and you can peek. i am looking for that classic, nice small pink snatch, ready to lick and stretch later, legs in the air. tired of the brown ones that hang out.
any ideas on how to suss the best pussy - where ?
there was/is a bar where they dance on a glass floor and you can peek. i am looking for that classic, nice small pink snatch, ready to lick and stretch later, legs in the air. tired of the brown ones that hang out.
baccara in soi cowboy, bangkok, and in pattaya as well.
Pahllus Maximus
09-19-10, 08:34
Some research for my BBBJ plans. Daily when I wake up, and one before bed. A normal and happy thing to blow in a girls mouth. Condoms for everything else. I've previously had a BBBJ in a lino on way to airport, girl and chauffer happily waving me goodbye, back to USA, sex prison.
This time, I'm going to stay a while, and get a few steady girls. It turns out the HIV in LOS is mostly type E that is a lot more infectious than the B type in the west. E type attacks the Langerhans cells on the penis, and many of the ladies with existing vaginal inflammation carry a higher loading to begin with. Statistics suggest 19% for freelancers and 4% for establishments, and a recent study published for 2004-2006 (why it was only published in 2010 is strange !) was 46% street workers and 4% brothels. These are merely guides, but certainly show that simply using a brothel is a five fold risk reduction, maybe they are better trained, maybe the brothel tests at least some of the time, who knows. Most allow take-out, or you can get the girl's phone number.
So, the plan is pay them to get tested at Bumrungrad Hospital (Sukhumvit Soi 3 or the Red Cross, 1871 Rama 4 Road Bangkok 10330) then BBBJ, especially if they have sweet little pussies. It is not foolproof, because there is a window of when it can be detected, but it is major risk reduction plan that should take only a couple of days. Rumor has it that the Red Cross is anonymous testing friendly and much cheaper than Bumrungrad Hospital.
Kumar Arun
09-19-10, 08:39
spent more time at hotel room relaxing. watching few crappy thai shows in telly. then met with my fellow monger sy who had come down from yankee land. sweet fellow with some mongering experience worldwide.
both of us had authentic indian meal at bawarchi(their vegy curry and chapati's were as good as one can get in india). then hired a tuk tuk and went near fortune town mall(i think rajapakshe road). visited many mps (emmanuel, natarey, hi5 etc etc). this street has about 10 big mps. and each had plenty of birds in them. nice experience. though liked one girl in natarey, decided not to go ahead as sy was speaking to a russian. she wanted to meet us at grace hotel. took subway and reached sukhmvit, from there sky train to nana. amazing. the sky train is celebrating 10years of operations. the system of public transportation here made me very sad at the situation back home.
met anna(russian contact). did not like any asses from her stable. decided head back to room to take rest for while before leaving for cm2.
cm2 – leena and ameera
boss suites has free tuk tuk services from 7 to 11. so got ourself dropped at nana, using sky train, from there reached cm2. so easy. i started loving this sky trains even more. fast, clean, cheap(?) and plenty of frequency. what else one require for a quick dash across the city.!
paid 650bht as cover fee and entered cm2 around 11. already good no. of guests enjoying some really good music. got my self some rum and started the hunt for the bird(s) for the night. sy was fishing on his own. spoke to one in smoking room. though liked the her, t&c didn't match. so start roaming again. then found this blondy leena playing at pool table with her friend ameera. ameera was nearly a stunner. young face, lean tight body, almost popping boobs. got my self introduced to leena(how indian her name was the topic. lol). finally she spoke to ameera and t&c were pretty ok. what else. pulled both out of cm2 and headed towards boss. they wanted to have food, even i was getting hungry, told them we will have at boss coffee shop. unfortunately boss closes its restaurant by 11 and again walked out, just near the corner we found a nice restaurant. finished food, lot of talking, lot of smiling little bit of laughter. we are all done with the food. the early morning (2am) weather was awesome and 5 mins tight hugging walking set the mood for the night. once back in the room ameera wanted to listen to some uzbek songs. so pooped up youtube and started playing some of my guests fav videos. they started having some serious fun dancing and shaking their booty(got a video of the same, might upload to youtube sometime later). i joined in between them once in a while and did some lip kissing. though ameera was playing little pricey, leena was all over me. leena was about 27+, lean, 5. 4, and had a small boobies where as ameera was about 23, lean, 5. 4 and had a right size boobies. she was bouncing them erotically and smiling at me while i was playing with leena. after 1hr of dancing or so they started stripping and slowly the atmosphere was getting hotter. they took bath one after another and we moved to bed. though ameera was not participating wholeheartedly, leena and i was getting serious. we were kissing deeply, i was eating her little booby, which she was pushing into my mouth with her hands. after while switched over to ameera and did some lip kissing, booby sucking and she allowed me to play with her pussy as well. while eating her my fingers were exploring leena downtown and she was moaning smoothly. by this time both of them were really wet and i was all but wanted to get into final action. moved over to leena, played with her wet pussy, by now ameera put me condoms. straight away started mishy with leena. a meera was sucking my tits and playing with balls. it might have lasted for about 10 mins or so, i couldn't control, i exploded all i've and collapsed. so ameera got spared and she was giggling all the way(she got paid w/o real sex. lucky *****). relaxed for couple of mins holding both the angels tightly and all three of us got cleaned ourselves. slept right between four boobies and chatted for half an hour or so more and donno when i moved to peace of sleep. what a fucking day?
two encounters one day as different as chalk and cheese but very satisfying. tuli was great with massage and sex. this two ruskies gave me what i was looking for. thank you los.
as usual pics little later.
NicFrenchy
09-19-10, 09:27
So, the plan is pay them to get tested at Bumrungrad Hospital (Sukhumvit Soi 3 or the Red Cross, 1871 Rama 4 Road Bangkok 10330) then BBBJ, especially if they have sweet little pussies. It is not foolproof, because there is a window of when it can be detected, but it is major risk reduction plan that should take only a couple of days. Rumor has it that the Red Cross is anonymous testing friendly and much cheaper than Bumrungrad Hospital.
A silly thing to do in my opinion but if it can make you feel safer, then I think that Christian Hospital around patpong has cheap and quick tests http://www.bkkchristianhosp.th.com/main.asp?lang=E
... Statistics suggest 19% for freelancers and 4% for establishments, and a recent study published for 2004-2006 (why it was only published in 2010 is strange !) was 46% street workers and 4% brothels...
I'd like to have a link to your sources, please.
... Rumor has it that the Red Cross is anonymous testing friendly and much cheaper than Bumrungrad Hospital.
You may as well go to a public hospital (anywhere in Thailand even as a foreigner!) with your (temporary) Thai girlfriend and have a HIV rapid test there. It's 300 baht only (per test) and results are usually given within the hour. It's anonymous too, by the way (you are given a number to retrieve your test results).
Asian Rain
09-19-10, 10:20
She has been "9 months pregnant" for the last 3 months... have been tracking her ad up until my last trip to BKK a week ago. Other warnings popping up about her on CL. Be cautious. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain
Some of you were asking for Pregnant girls.....
http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/ers/1960679845.html
I thought this might be the case and as such I hope I did not come down too hard on you in my last post. That was not my intention. As long as you know what's going on and enjoy the "drama" then go for it and have a good time. But don't go too far with the game and outright lie to them or promise them things you know you won't deliver on. That is part of treating them "nice" and with respect.
You might want to try a ménage with your two girls (in the spirit of politeness, lol). I don't partake that often, but once in a while, with the right girls it can be worthwhile. Stay thirsty.
Hi Natty, no you didn't come down too hard. As I told in my post I agree with your comments on the financial motive (the source of any behavior). At the same time I share Kumbu's thoughts and I'll explain when I'll reply to his post. Regarding the ménage I am not really into this, I've tried a couple of times and it only worked out when I was in university with two girls (fellow students not professionals) and it was a perfect experience. After this all other attempts (with professionals) were completely non successful so I stopped the sport :-)
our story picks up on friday night, around 10:45pm - i had just left dollhouse (soi cowboy), and was wondering house of debauchery should be next on my list. in this report, i describe a spectacular night with a waitress from carousel. she was well worth every baht.
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erotica bar (nep)
i walked out of doll house without looking back at the girl. my glasses misted up as i walked into the humid night, so i stood there for a moment waiting for them to clear up. as i did that, i decided to ditch soi cowboy and head over to nep. i took the bts, as it was only 10:45pm. i got to nep around 11pm, and decided i needed to avoid my regular hangouts, like mandarin and rainbow 4. so i went up the left-side stairs, and on up into erotica – a place i have never been to before. it wasn't all that bad, actually. it is a smallish bar, with three-tiered seating on the left as you enter, and two-tiered seating on the right. i sat at the top, looking down at the girls on stage. there were 8 girls on stage, none of which really caught my fancy. there were two stand-outs though. the first had these large, hanging breasts, which while not my thing in the slightest, were certainly worth a good ogling. they hung down to just above her navel, which was pretty amazing. they seemed very...meaty. the rest of her was rather nondescript. she had a plain face, looked like she was in her late twenties/early thirties, and her legs were nothing special.
the other stand out was a skinny girl with a very pretty face. she had a flat chest, slender legs, and a total tramp stamp on her back. actually, she had plenty of tattoos, which says a lot about a girl. her face was quite pretty,although i am convinced her nose was fake. anyway, i was not terribly interested, until she turned around and faced the other way. at this point i saw the width of her hips – they were absolutely stunning. her tiny waist sat atop a wide, wide set of hips, which just sent my motor into top gear. talk about evolutionary preferences – those were good, solid child-bearing hips. i closed my eyes and imagined my hands on those hips, sliding up and down that beautiful hour-glass figure. yummy.
then i woke up and realized that her hips were the only thing that really worked for me, and it was totally not worth my time/effort.
so i paid up and left. next stop: carousel.
carousel (nep)
this place was packed. i mean, there were more customers in here than any bar i have seen in a long time. there were only five girls on stage, none of which were really to my liking. i assume it was because all the girls were with the dozens of customers on the floor. i ordered a gin/tonic and sat there for a good 30 minutes, just sipping slowly, and watching. several sexy shows came and went, and the same five girls kept getting up afterwards to stand on the revolving carousel. one girl had sexy legs and ass, but her face was so severe it nixed any ideas little kumbu might have been hatching.
the hand
so i was getting ready to hit the road when something interesting happened. a waitress came along and stood in front of me, oblivious to me, looking in a different direction. she put her hand on the counter in front of me, just resting her arm there, leaning her weight against the counter a little, as she surveyed the room. and kumbu, being the freak that he is, fixates on the hand.
she had perfectly manicured finger nails – long, rounded, and sexy as hell. the nails themselves looked strong and healthy. her fingers were long and slender, far more so than most thai girls. the fingers were slightly curled, resting on the top of the counter. her skin was light colored, and so the skin under the nails was a ripe, rosy pink color. i was just totally entranced by the hand – i could not break my eye gaze away from it. perhaps it was the fatigue, or the alcohol, not sure, but i was beginning to imprint on her hand, like ducklings on the mother duck.
i couldn't see anything else of her, since she was looking the other direction (and so all i saw was her hair), and the counter was blocking my view of her entire body below the shoulders. so all i had was this one hand, gently placed in front of me in the most innocuous of manners.
i sat there for perhaps 60 seconds, shamelessly fixating on her hand, until she finally moved. and as she walked away, legs in plain view, my eyes stayed on that hand, as it swayed back and forth. i felt like a cat watching a swinging ball of yarn, my head bobbing left and right as the hand swung left and right. rather embarrassing, actually. she was still unaware of me, i'm sure of it. she was not just ignoring me, she was just oblivious to my existence. she wandered around a little bit in front of me, seemingly aimless for 30 seconds or so, and my eyes still stuck on the hand (even though her legs and ass were available for viewing). she eventually wandered a little further from me and sat down next to the stage.
bingo. in one fluid motion, she hopped onto the stool, turned around and crossed her legs. kumbu fell off his booth seat onto the floor below.
she did not notice, so i picked myself up and sat down again, eagerly awaiting the next installment of 'discover the beautiful waitress'. she was looking to her right (my left) at this group of large, athletic, affluent american guys. one guy in particular had caught her fancy, and she kept looking at the guy hopefully. he was perhaps 6'2”, athletic as hell, wearing a baseball cap, dressed casual-nice, clean-cut blond hair, mid-thirties, a full set of straight teeth, and not a blemish on him. i hated this guy.
so she looked at him, and he did not notice her because he was occupied talking with his four friends. i, meanwhile, was busy scoping out her body, as best i could. i had decided her legs were pretty damned fantastic. they were shapely, well toned, with great skin. we have already established the pedigree of her hands – what was left to be determined was in the mid-section. i could not quite tell. i looked at her face (funny, the order of my inspection is not quite typical, is it?). her face was, well, ok. she had nice lips, and her eyes were cool and stuff, but she had a jawline that was a little too pronounced. her hair was carefully draped over the sides of her face to hide this fact, but it was pretty obvious. but i wouldn't say she was ugly, just not a stunner (face wise).
but holy crap, the more i looked at her the more i was enamored with her body. so i looked away for a second, and when i looked back, she was looking right at me. her eyes were now wide, as if she had just seen me and was surprised by my existence there. i smiled back at her, and bada-bing, bada-boom, she's sitting next to me.
she is 27years old, broke up with bf 5 months ago, no baby. so we talked for a good 10 minutes and she never asked for a drink. the talk was easy and flirtatious, and there was no pressure on me – it was really cool. the first bit of pressure came in the following exchange:
girlie: you know i have little air.
kumbu: little air, you mean you can't breath? are you ok?
girlie: ...
kumbu: you ok?
girlie: i have little air...here (points to crotch)
kumbu: i'm glad to hear you don't produce air from down there – doh! i get it now!
so she was telling me that she had little pubic hair, and she wanted to know my opinion on the topic. i told her i don't believe her, and that she needs to show me. she laughed and said she cannot here, but she would gladly do so in my hotel room. so the courtship began.
we did this kind of thing for another 20 minutes while she sipped the ld i sprang for upon the 'no air' episode. meanwhile, she was climbing all over me, rubbing herself against me, putting my hands where man-hands were designed to go. she shifted around, and at one point, she lay flat on her stomach along the booth seat i was in, with her ass squarely in my lap. shiiiiiiiiiiiiit. i inspected that backside, and holy cow, it was exactly up to kumbu's specifications. i like 'em round and plentiful - not large and obese mind you, but bubbly is what i look for. in june, during my last trip here, i was remarkably successful in rooting out the beautiful asses , and i had struck gold once again.
closing the deal
so eventually she asks if i want to bf her. i ask her how much for her, and she hesitates. she quotes 3000lt, 2000st. the normal initial quote is 4000/2500, so she was being good to me. although this may be the standard quote for waitresses, i don't know. i hesitated, and she said how about 1500st and 2500lt? i offered her a compromise. told her that i would pay her 1500st if i was *not* happy, but 2000st if i was happy. she did not understand. i explained it again, and when she got it, she found it to be a terribly clever negotiation trick. she was very impressed.
so she runs off to change, and then the vultures descend. mama san arrives, along with another waitress, and they make the thumb to mouth gesture with the very, very sad face, indicating they want a drink. scusi? rather than respond to them, i got up and walked to the toilet, leaving them there to stew and complain about my miserliness.
when my girl arrived, she was wearing a frilly grey dress, one of those things with a ripped and uneven hem. it was made of clingy material and just showed off her awesome figure. as we walked out of there i noticed that she is tall – 5'8” perhaps? she had heels on and so she was my height (i am 5'10”). for a moment i wondered as to her gender, but as she walked in front of me, all doubts disappeared – that figure left absolutely no doubt in my mind.
we took a taxi back to the hotel, during which she chatted very easily and comfortably. i find that the taxi ride is a great barometer for how the night will go. and in this case, the barometer predicted glorious weather.
aaah, finally into the hotel room
we entered the room and she was very pleased with the quality of the room. she delighted at the large bathtub, all the glass walls and everything. she then went and stood in the middle of the room and called me over. as i approached her, she grabbed me and before i could say anything, her tongue was in my mouth, probing the top of my mouth, pressing against the hard-palate, aggressively pushing my tongue aside.
her dress got pushed down to her waist, and her breasts were smallish, although enough for me to sink my hands into. her nipples were a delightful pinkish/brown color, small and pert. i sucked them for a while, as my hands worked their way into her ass meat. we made out like this for 5 minutes or so, until it was time for showering. she pulled out three boxes of condoms, at which i spontaneously coughed loudly. she giggled and explained that some customers need the extra gel kind, some need the extra large kind, some need extra sensitivity, so she carries them all. cool.
she also pulls out her toothbrush, some mouthwash, some toothpaste, some floss (?), and her uniform from work. i asked her why she brought her uniform from work, and she said many customers want to fuck her while she is dressed in her uniform. i had a good laugh about that, but she was totally cool about all of it.
signs of things to come
one thing that was out of character was that she insisted on showering alone. ok, well, that's fine. so she did, and then it was my turn. as i undressed and she climbed into bed, she called me over, and when i did, she gave me stern instructions:
girlie: clean everywhere ok?
kumbu: i always do.
girlie: no, i mean, clean everywhere, ok? i like.
kumbu: umm, yeah, i always do.
still not getting it, she pulls thick kumbu over and rubs his ass and says, “clean everywhere, ok? i like.”
okaaaaaay. so i showered, washing out my already meticulously clean ass several times, wondering whether this would work for me or not. i'm not really that into ass-licking (receiving), although i love to be the ass licker. but here she was almost demanding it, so what was i to do?
aaaaaand they're off!
after the shower, i climbed into bed and there was no awkward hesitation – we went straight into it. that's what i like about this girl – everything was just easy and natural. there was no effort on my part – she knew just what to do, and she did it expertly.
we started with the dfk, which truth be told was a little too d for my liking. so i pulled away at the first opportune moment, and worked my way down to her breasts. as i did this, she whispered “anything you want”. she was not particularly receptive to the breast action, so i kissed my way downwards. again, “anything you want”. she was totally open, and as i approached pubic central, she lifted her hips for me to enter.
my first thought was:
“fire! fire! pants on fire!”
turns out she is a liar. well, kind of. she told me that she has little (h)air down there, which was not entirely true. the truth of it was that she had loads and loads of hair down there, but she had it all close-cropped. but that left a lot of stubble. if you were a woman and were having your pussy sucked out by a guy who has stubble on his chin, it hurts like hell. well, as a guy, as i suck out a pussy, if the stubble is too severe, it hurts me too. yes, i am soft like that, and fuck all you guys who are laughing right now.
but undeterred by the raging stubble, i kissed around her pubic region for a while, avoiding the sensitive areas, just so i could get a lay of the land. “anything you want”. when i was ready, i went in to the clit first. she had a very thick, heavy hood over the clit, and i had to lift it off her clit by pulling up in the skin above it. and when i did this, it revealed a pert, bulging little thing just waiting for some attention.
as i licked it, she just totally revved up. she was delighted that i had figured out how to get under the hood (literally), and she groaned and sighed. she said some canned crap like 'i like you lick me', and then she started to pant my name over and over again. i was kind of not liking that, but hey, everything else was delightful.
she kept gyrating her hips upwards, and as she did that, two things would happen. first, her stubbled pussy hair would rub against some part of my face/lips and i would get like a stubble burn. second, i would lose grip on the clit, and my tongue would end up squirming around in her pussy and/or asshole. she was cool with the ass rimming, so i did that for a few moments. her asshole was fine, not particularly spectacular, but hey, it's as asshole – how spectacular does it need to be?
the daty lasted a long time, and she just did not cum. i wouldn't go so far as to say that i am a master at daty, but i think of myself as somewhat adept. and i was just not able to make her cum. i tried, and i used all the tricks in my bag. she responded very well to everything, and i think i got her close a couple of times, but it just did not happen. after around 30 minutes of this, my tongue and lips were getting rather raw. she sensed this and tried to get me to move, and so i asked her if she had cum, and she said that she would cum with me. i doubted that.
so she says again “anything you want”, to which we switched into 69 with her ontop. this was awesome. i got a full, open view of her asshole and pussy, and i could massage her full, round ass cheeks to my heart's delight. her ass (the cheeks) were really very beautiful – round, full, fleshy, just what the doctor ordered. she was sucking little kumbu bb, and i was getting to the point of exploding, so i pulled back to avoid the early disaster. she knew what to do – she stopped working on little kumbu and stuck her head under my balls and started to lick my taint.
honestly, i have never had this done to me before, and i was kind of wondering what it would be like. after a while, she rolled me over and stuck her tongue between my butt cheeks, swirling, flitting, poking. it was an interesting sensation, i must admit, but it was more ticklish than pleasurable. so i ended up enduring it more than enjoying it. i endured it because i wanted her to feel like she had given me something special. she was a sweet girl, very eager to please, and with an awesome body, so i had decided to pay her well. but for that, she needs to deliver above-and-beyond service, which she was currently doing, with her tongue in my ass.
so a few minutes later, i turned around and thanked her, and she giggled “boom boom now? daay may?! i like, i like.” enthusiasm – you gotta love it.
so i pulled out my own trojans and away we went. we started with cg, then reverse cg (the sight of her ass nearly killing me right there), during which she kept leaning backwards and forwards to great effect. i mean far more than normal: she would lean backwards, arching her back, accentuating the curvature of her ass, and then she would lean forward and lie flat against my knees. this produced a flared ass effect, if you can imagine that, which was just such a orgasm inducer. one time, as she leaned forward, her mouth found its way to my left big toe, which she popped into her mouth and started to suckle. phew, lucky i clipped my tow nails before going out tonight!
next we did missionary, then with her on her side, me entering from behind, then doggie for a very short time, to avoid the premature ejaculation, and then we ended it with her standing, leaning against the wall, bent at the waist, and me entering her from behind. as i orgasmed, i found myself clutching at her large ass with one hand, and at her shoulder with the other, trying to keep myself standing as my knees buckled under the pleasure.
closing scenes
upon ending, i remained inside her and we gently lay backwards together onto the bed, she lying on top of me, little kumbu still inside her. we lay there like that for a good 10 minutes, panting, talking, breathing. she then got up and sent me to shower. she followed, and upon exiting, i asked her to leave (in a nice way, gently, but still).
she was a little taken aback by that, as she expected to stay the whole night i think. i told her that i had to go to work early, so it would be better for her to leave. so she slowly got dressed as we talked and joked. it took her an hour to finally leave, since we kept getting distracted and making out a little. we exchanged numbers, and i promised to go back for her on sunday. and given the experience tonight, that is a total no-brainer.
before she left, i asked her if i could take some photos of her. she laughed about how she is not pretty, and i said that i don't really want a shot of her face, i want something else. she began to object, something about internet, and i feigned ignorance (“what is this 'internet' you speak of? and why would anyone put nude photos on it?'), and i eventually cut her off and told her that i wanted some photos of her hands. she just broke out in all-out laughter – knee-smacking, full-lunged, roaring laughter. what a freak this guy is – he is offered to have his ass licked, to which his reaction is...meh...but he has a total hand fetish, of all things. on her way out, she gave me her phone number (i texted her the next day, just to solidify the connection) and i paid her 2500b (to really cement the relationship). i think she most definitely deserved this, as she was top notch the entire night. if she were an athlete, she would have received the mvp award.
Rumor has it that the Red Cross is anonymous testing friendly and much cheaper than Bumrungrad Hospital.I like the Red Cross (on Ratdamri Rd.) but, as everyone else has said, there are lots of other choices now. Bam Rung Raat would be my last choice, for this test or pretty much anything else. Well, unless maybe you're a rich Saudi with hemorrhoids.
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i think working girls in bkk are primarily in the business for the money, so let's just state that as a given fact. but beyond that, being the human beings that they are, these girls have preferences within the parameters of making money. each girl has preferences that they wish to fulfill that go beyond money. one preference might be getting a steady bf who sends money from somewhere (as opposed to a string of anonymous well-paying strangers). another might be to gain face amongst her peers. yet another might be to have sex with a good looking, well-groomed, tender lover, rather than a drunken brute. i'm not suggesting any of these preferences trump the money aspect of it, but when one describes the social interactions of these girls, it is important to recognize that they, like all of us, are motivated by various and complex factors.
so lifeingr, for whatever reason, you have two girls fighting over you. it's likely that you pay well, you dress well, you are decent looking, you smell good, you speak respectfully, you don't try to stick a broom handle up their asses while in bed, and you make them cum. furthermore, i now know that many of the bars in soi cowboy recently increased the number of required bar-fines a girl must bring in per month, which increases the pressure and competition amongst the girls. their disappointment may be money motivated, or it may be motivated by any number of these other things. it is complicated, and i think of all the people on this board, you are the most likely person to know which of these factors are causing this little quarrel. trust your gut.
i would say this kind of problem is very, very common. i have spoken to dozens of gogo girls who tell tales of love found, love entrenched, and love stolen away by that two-faced b-itch she used to call a friend. so it is not uncommon.
if i were you, i would ditch this bar. it is tainted now, and you will not get the same treatment from them for a while. you should find another favorite bar and start all over again there. give it a year, wait for the institutional memory to fade, for this generation of girls to move on, and then go back and see how things are. that's my two cents.
kumbu, i do agree with your comments; i agree with everybody as you see, probably because i am a seller so i have to be diplomatic ;-)
for me the most possible reason for such behavior from the girls is the prospect of a long time boy friend. and yes i treat them well so this is why i am a good target. another thing that i believe makes them like me is that i can patiently listen them literally for hours!
even if in this case (long term boy friend) the basic motive is also the money (better financial stability), there is something that distinguish it (and also most of the thai bar girls) form the norm of p2p (from the providers perspective). we are talking here about young ladies which is normal to have “dreams” about their future. and it is quite possible that these dreams include a good husband which is a slightly different term from a “money machine”. of course most husbands (in every relation) are a kind of “money machines” but we have accepted (at least the majority of the society) that within a normal marriage the “money machine” characteristic of the husband is inferior to the feelings. so, from the one side i do not want to “encourage” them to have dreams of me being their husband but from the other side i still want to treat them well so there are chances that in some cases i'll be in some girls “husbandry dreams”.
this is more or less why i enjoy to be part of the “drama” as this “drama” is happening within the frames of a “game”. and i make efforts to keep things in a “game” situation. i do not exchange telephone numbers with them, and therefore i do not call or text them, i do not promise them things, i do not invite them for day activities (breakfast in the hotel the morning after is the limit), i do not say to them that i am looking for a girl friend.
so this is how i keep balance and this is why i was concerned about the situation with the 2 girls. i'll take your advise and i'll not visit the bar for at least one year. i just hope that there will be no “accidental meeting” in the soi cowboy; but i'll try to figure out a prose if this happens.
I've been following this chick via CL. She has a gestation period longer than an African Elephant.
Some of you were asking for Pregnant girls.....
http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/ers/1960679845.html
Luckyguy7198
09-20-10, 01:47
It turns out the HIV in LOS is mostly type E that is a lot more infectious than the B type in the west. E type attacks the Langerhans cells on the penis, and many of the ladies with existing vaginal inflammation carry a higher loading to begin with. Statistics suggest 19% for freelancers and 4% for establishments, and a recent study published for 2004-2006 (why it was only published in 2010 is strange !) was 46% street workers and 4% brothels. These are merely guides, but certainly show that simply using a brothel is a five fold risk reduction...
http://www.avert.org/thailand-aids-hiv.htm
http://cfs.unaids.org/country_factsheet.aspx?ISO=THA
http://apps.who.int/globalatlas/predefinedReports/EFS2008/full/EFS2008_TH.pdf
http://journals.lww.com/jaids/Abstract/2010/08010/HIV_Transmission_Rates_in_Thailand__Evidence_of.15.aspx
http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/2009/06/16/aidshiv-thailand/
Collation, analytics and verification will take a while unless they use LHC's computing grid ;-)
Pahllus Maximus
09-20-10, 05:57
Thanks folks - will get her tested for hep C and HIV, then wake up blowjobs and swallow every morning and goodnight. A small investment of time to minimize risk and maximize pleasure. The source of data is as follows, and shows that distribution is very different, save that street workers are consistently much higher risk since surveys in 1999. But for 300 baht I can reduce that markedly, and have one (or more likely 2) girls who will learn what I like so after a few days I'll be sucked in the shower, or where ever, nice cold beer as their pretty little lips are wrapped around my large throbbing manhood and her friend sucks my balls. Cheers a fellow up !
See ACCESS TO HIV TESTING FOR SEX WORKERS IN BANGKOK, THAILAND: A HIGH PREVALENCE OF HIV AMONG STREET-BASED SEX WORKERS
P Nhurod, LJM Bollen, P Smutraprapoot1, O Suksripanich, U Siangphoe, R Lolekha, P Manomaipiboon, C Nandavisai, R Anekvorapong, S Supawitkul, W Subhachaturas, P Akarasewi and KK Fox
http://www.thaiscience.info/Article%20for%20ThaiScience/Article/6/Ts-6%20access%20to%20hiv%20testing%20for%20sex%20workers%20in%20bangkok,%20thailand%20a%20high%20prevalence%20of%20hiv%20among%20street-based%20sex%20workers.pdf
http://www.thailandguru.com/hiv-aids-thailand.html
http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/HIV-1_Infection_Among_Female_Commercial_Sex_Workers_in_Rural_Thailand.pdf
went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) last week after drinking a few on cowboy. was pretty drunk. chose a cutie named "knee" - be warned, this was the absolute worst bj i have ever been given in my life! it started out okay but towards the end when i was about to cum her teeth started to grind on the end of my cock. i soldiered through and came in her mouth, but not before she had done the damage. the end of my cock (between the mushroom tip and the shaft) was ripped - i didn't feel the pain until the next morning and it still hurts now, 5 days later. it's getting better and i hope to be full throttle again by the weekend, but be warned about her. in hindsight i should have stopped it the second i felt her teeth but i was quite close to cumming so i just foolishly ignored it.
went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) last week after drinking a few on cowboy. was pretty drunk.
but be warned about her
the moral of this story should be not to visit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) when you're pretty drunk.
This story might sound not very relevant but given my jet lag tonight I decided to share it with you (hopping that sorry telling will make me sleep!).
I use to go quite often in a bar in Soi Cowboy. I started to go there about 1 year ago and I've taken out 3 girls. The first one I took out (twice) was not there in my next visits and another girl told me that she has gone back to her village. End of this story.
One night at the bar two girls approached me together (I will call them for now on Girl1 and Girl2). They asked me to buy them a drink and I did that. I was quite on the mood to take a girl out and while I was attracted by both of them I chose Girl1 (in principle I do not do trios). Actually, and for my taste, Girl2 is more attractive but I felt a much better chemistry with Girl1. We've had a very sexually intense night together and it was also a GFE with a good discussion on life and politics after the sex.
After a couple of weeks I visited again the bar looking for Girl1. I went there quite late and she has obviously been bar fined. Alas, the Girl2 appears in front of me. We have a couple of drinks and I decided for ST. Another nice GFE but not sexually so intense as with the Girl1. After the sex we chatted and at a certain point she tells me that Girl1 has asked her if I've been in the bar after the night we went together and she also asked me if it was OK to say to Girl1 that we've been together. I told her “Look, do not run and tell her that we've been together but if you are friends and you talk then it is up to you to tell her or not”.
After approximately two months I am back to the bar. Girl2 is not there and Girl1 is dancing the moment I enter the bar. When she show me she gave me a big smile and once she finished her dance she came and sat with me. A small talk, she says me a sad story about the past two months and we decide again to leave together. Again a very intense sex that drained me out completely and a nice talk after. No mention from her site about Girl2. But she has done something that I really didn't like it. When I gave her the money she counted them and she asked if this is the same amount I gave her last time. I said yes and she said “hmm, usually it is more”. I made no comment on this but I was pissed off.
Last part of the story. A couple of weeks ago I go again in the bar. The very moment I enter the bar and before even manage to identify who is who inside, Girl2 appears in front of me with a big smile and a hug. We sat together but she says to me that she has immediately to go dancing and that she will come latter. Once she leaves for the stage I have a look around and I see diagonally Girl1 staring at me with a sad look. OK, I was pissed off with her with the comment on the payment but the sad face made me to feel a bit “guilty” because I didn't see her (how stupid men can be some times!). At the same time some other girls were looking at her and I felt that she felt that she lost face (and we all now that this is not good for Thais). I smile to her and I invite her to my table. She comes, I explain to her that I really didn't see her when I entered the bar and I offer a drink. She starts hugging and kissing me and now the sad face is on Girl2. Girl1 says to me that Girl2 has told her that she loves me and that she felt very connected to me the night we went together. I did not reply to these comments and I just try to make a general discussion. When the dance finishes Girl2 comes down from the stage she gives my a Thai greeting without any smile and goes to the opposite side of the bar. It might sounds a bit stupid but I felt guilty again and I asked Girl1 if it is OK to invite Girl2 for a drink also. She tell me OK and such I did. Now the three of us have a drink, we chatted about 10 minutes for general things and then I decided to leave.
Now, the point is that I really like the bar and I want to go again but I don't want to get involved in this issue with the 2 girls (which of course I've partially caused). I've decided that the best is not to visit the bar for a couple of months (maybe more) but really I don't know what to do when I'll go there again in case that both girls are there. I do not want to continue with them but I want to be polite and not to “ignore” them.
I can guarantee to you that girl2 told girl1 that you'd BF her, and that you paid her more than you paid girl1, that's why she asked about the money, some of these bargirls talk so much shit, to each other and customers, you need to understand these two are just playing you, you need to learn to be the boss, your not their bf, your the boss, and don't let them forget It.
Holy crap, I bow to the master. Dude, you scare me...but this is great advise. I wonder if I could pull it off though. I think girls sense I am not the mac-daddy player type, but hmm, perhaps I could grow a pair and pretend to be...
He's right, you have to be able to give back as good as you get, these girls are just playing you like a piano,
Similar to what I said to Lifeingr, these girls are hookers, their not our gf's, sounds like you enjoyed Lek, but she started the BS about staying with you.
I've had the same thing many times, but at the end of the day, we are the boss, do you think thai bargirls would act like that with thai men? They are just playing weak farangs.
I once knew a Angelwitch showgirl, who was a great shag, and fun girl, but after one night she wanted to stay with me for another night, I told her I was a butterfly, and I go out that night to look for new lady, she kept asking me to stay, so I told her, ok If you want me to stay I wont pay you, she agreed to this, ok no problem. In the morning I was off to Patts, as we walked out of the hotel she was asking "darlin you give me money" these girls make you laugh lol.
Hi
What time do the girls show up at Saphan Kwai gogos ?
I would want to go early in the week and leave the weekend for the locals :)
If you are taking one LT does it matter how early you take them ?
I was thinking 9-10pm if possible,
Also is there a problem taking them back to Sukhumvit ?
thanks for the info..................BK
Sorry for the late reply. I didn't have much time during the past weeks to check this forum and post reports.
I don't know exactly when the girls usually show up at Saphan Kwai gogos, but I guess that it's in the early evening (6 pm, maybe?). If you come in one of those establishments at 9 pm (approximately), and stay about one hour there, you should not have any problem to take the girl of your choice back to Sukhumvit for a LT session.
Are prices at SK still 1500 ST?
I have not visited this area recently, but a reliable friend of mine was there a few days ago and he confirmed that the going rates are still 1500-1600 baht ST and 2000-2100 baht LT in several go-go bars of Saphan Kwai.
No barfine, but as mentioned earlier, you are charged for the time spent in these establishment in the company of the girl(s) of your choice (about 150 baht/per hour and per girl).
I have not visited this area recently, but a reliable friend of mine was there a few days ago and he confirmed that the going rates are still 1500-1600 baht ST and 2000-2100 baht LT in several go-go bars of Saphan Kwai.
No barfine, but as mentioned earlier, you are charged for the time spent in these establishment in the company of the girl(s) of your choice (about 150 baht/per hour and per girl).
I have heard talk about the SK bars, are they worth going to as a farang? What are the girls like, Isaan look or are they more lighter skinned like thai men prefer?
Ah, now it becomes clear.
An expert on Bangkok who doesn't live here.
I never claimed being "an expert on Bangkok". I just report, as honestly as possible, my personal observations (among other things) about how the local scene has (IMHO) changed since my first sojourn in this country in 1999.
By the way, you certainly know how fallacious arguments from authority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority) can be. For instance, I don't live in Pattaya either, but I've already ventured in some places of this town that many long-time residents don't know.
Everyone can provide valuable insights and information, even tourists. When I was living in Paris (I lived more than 15 years in this town), my tourist friends were sometimes better informed than me on various topics (for instance, the current entry fees in certain touristic venues). I've also observed that people who don't live in a specific town, but who visit it regularly, often notice price changes (for instance) more accurately than the residents, because those variations (for them) are not progressive but more abrupt.
I have heard talk about the SK bars, are they worth going to as a farang? What are the girls like, Isaan look or are they more lighter skinned like thai men prefer?
You need to speak at least some basic Thai to go there, then, it's worth it (IMHO) in Bangkok. The girls working there have (on average) a fairer complexion than in the tourist-oriented venues.
You need to speak at least some basic Thai to go there, then, it's worth it (IMHO) in Bangkok.
Agree, if you don't speak thai don't even bother. You're at a disadvantage and are likely to be overcharged and cheated. These places are not set up for tourists.
... See ACCESS TO HIV TESTING FOR SEX WORKERS IN BANGKOK, THAILAND: A HIGH PREVALENCE OF HIV AMONG STREET-BASED SEX WORKERS ...
http://www.thaiscience.info/Article%20for%20ThaiScience/Article/6/Ts-6%20access%20to%20hiv%20testing%20for%20sex%20workers%20in%20bangkok,%20thailand%20a%20high%20prevalence%20of%20hiv%20among%20street-based%20sex%20workers.pdf
http://www.thailandguru.com/hiv-aids-thailand.html
http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/HIV-1_Infection_Among_Female_Commercial_Sex_Workers_in_Rural_Thailand.pdf
Thanks for the links. I already knew the figures mentioned on Thailand Guru's website.
The last PDF document ("HIV-1 infection among female commercial sex workers in rural Thailand") is obsolete (their data were collected between 1989 and 1993!).
I can't see where it is written that 19% of freelancers are HIV infected, as you stated in a previous post. In the first PDF document, it is written that "The HIV prevalences among the street-based sex workers, brothel-based sex workers and other women in these areas not reporting sex work who tested in the clinics were 45.8% (38/83), 4.2% (10/236) and 9.9% (28/284), respectively".
By the way, those figures should be taken with a pinch of salt, as only 684 women were tested, and in Bangkok only.
life is good
what a night friday was – great experience with the waitress from carousel. i awoke after five hours of sleep, tired as hell, but fresh as a spring time daisy. the world seemed like a better place. i think the rain will subside today. i expect a break through in the israeli-palestinian problem. and maybe al-qaeda will realize what dweeb's they've been and rejoin the civilized world. hugs all around everybody, good job.
as i left my hotel room on the way to work, i felt the bounce in my step, the pep in my grin, and the will to power on through the fatigue. work went fine, thank you very much, and i was home by 6pm. i had a beer meeting set up with a fellow isger for 8pm, so i grabbed a quick power-nap, showered, and trotted off to soi 11 to meet up with one of the finer individuals on this board.
like-minded mongers
i forgot to ask his permission to mention his username, so i will just talk about him in the abstract. turns out he was with his semi-girl-friend – a truly delightful, pretty little thing who giggled and teased just like a gf is supposed to do. we talked, drank some beer, and wiled away about the psychology of mongering, the technical difficulties we encounter, the highs and the lows. it was a pleasure, sir, and i look forward to our next encounter.
i bade my farewells to the isger and his gf and went off to meet another isger – spider_916. but upon checking my texts, i saw that spider was busy. hmm. so i went to nep, just to kill some time, before heading back to soi cowboy to try to pick up that beauty i saw the previous night. i only had time to hit one joint, so i decided to make it a bar i had never been into – rainbow. this is the one on the ground floor, on the right as you enter, the first one next to the escalator. i think it is rainbow 1.
the belch, and other rainbow trivialities
i walked in and it was packed. i mean, there was no seating space, and the stage was packed full of legs, buttocks and super-cuts hairstyles. luckily, a guy was leaving, so i grabbed his spot. i sat there and looked, and the first thing i noticed was that the girls here are all skinny, skinny, and skinny. they also have a very asian look – mostly light skinned, with that chinese type look. i then looked around and noticed that around 90% of the customers were japanese. no, wait, everyone in there was japanese, except for me. wow.
i looked very carefully to be sure this was the case, and yup, i was the only non-japanese there. just then, an old disheveled, drunk-looking caucasian stumbled in and flailed into the seat next to me. he looked my way, sniffled a little, and then his head lolled the other direction. he had grey, stringy, greasy hair, was wearing an army surplus jacket, and had a stunned, whaaaa? kind of look on his face. he looked around a little in a dull-witted kind of way, waiting for the waitress, and in the meantime let out a loud, unabashed belch. it must have lasted a full 3 seconds, leaving an air of stale beer and onions. he wiped his mouth with the back of his hand, and licked his lips a little. the waitress approached him masking her disgust. he slurred an order for a whiskey-something-or-the-other, and began his blurry, dim-witted gaze at the stage. i think i saw a louse spring from his hair, but i could be mistaken.
i saw his lips curl a little, and i thought he might be getting ready for another almighty belch, but none followed. i then realized that this was his impression of a smile. why was he smiling? maybe he just had a bowel movement, and that's the only reaction he could muster. no, wait, it looked like he was smiling at something in the distance. i followed his gaze, and to my surprise, three girls were making looksies with the guy. wow, you've got to hand it to these girls: they will screw anything for the right amount. but next to these three gals was one slim, stunning girl. she was pretty, skinny, slightly darker skin than the japanese prefer, and a really cute face. she had eyes that were those of a seductress extraordinaire, and she was writhing around on stage as if she really meant it (i.e., no gogo shuffle). she too had pretty much the same kind of smile as the other three, except her smile was not directed at the mess of a man to my right. to my great surprise, she was looking right at me with a huge, sexy grin. ok, didn't i just say that they will screw anything for the right amount? well...
attention: a great aphrodisiac for sure.
i say that because this lovely thing was cute and everything, but she was just a very small girl. she was skinny, with a small ass, slender (not skinny) legs, and smallish breasts. she had great hair, great lips, and of course awesome eyes, and she was very well proportioned, but she just isn't my usual type. nonetheless, fabulous was her smile, and even more fabulous was her attitude, and so the attention she was heaping upon me meant that she had earned herself a chat and a ld.
upon the shift change, i gave her a little innocuous hand wave. she came and sat down, name is lek, 25 years old, no kids, been in bkk many years, but working in the bar for 4 months. she likes bkk, she likes this bar, but not working as a working girl. she likes falang men more than japanese men, and it seems this is the wrong bar for her since 95% of customers are japanese. she admitted this fact, but explained how the few falang men that come in are almost always attracted to her. so it works well for all concerned. her look is the typical **** look that so many of us falang (current author excepted, of course) seek so desperately.
she started to apply the pressure, ever so gently. first was the soft bicep caress (the caress was soft, not the bicep :) ), then the question of which hotel i stay at, and then she began with the 'i take care you'. i generally take that as a good sign, since they rarely say that in the bar and then end up starfishing you back in the hotel. but the hour was still so early, and there was so much potential out there that i just could not commit to her. so i ditched her, and to her great distress, i chugged down my heineken and cruised on outta there, holding my breath as i passed mr. drunken mctwo-burps.
go west young man...to soi cowboy
it was now something like 10:30, and i took the short 15b bts trip up to asoke and walked over to soi cowboy. i was in search of that beautiful ass i saw yesterday, the one which i left 100b for.
first stop: dollhouse
upon entry, i was disappointed to see that there was no where to sit except in the corner on the right. so i sat there, getting no love from any of the girls. but more to the point, i did not see my girl. so i went upstairs and sat at a table with a good looking set of legs dancing at eye level. i sipped my heineken, letting the buzz of alcohol and sex mesmerize me for a while. the legs looked great, and as i looked up, the rotunda on display also looked pretty damned tasty. i couldn't quite make out the girls face, for lack of cranial dexterity, but that's ok. the haze was descending, in that dark, smoky atmosphere of dollhouse, with the loud music thumping in my ears, arsenal playing sunderland on the big screen, and writhing sexy legs 9 inches from my nose. mmmm, bangkok, oh you sweet intoxicating city, you.
the shift ended, and the girl got down. i was about to call her over when i saw her walking away. damn, the legs that had looked so great at eye level suddenly looked pretty odd-shaped. funny how perspective changes things so much. so i let her slide.
next to climb onto my table was a cute young thing with too many teeth in her mouth (i love that by the way). she too had substantial legs and an even more substantial butt, but given the optical illusion i had just discovered with the other girl, i decided it would be better not to pursue this one until i had seen her from the right angles. her waitress friend came up and gave me the line of how the girl thinks i am soooo cute, and i managed to rebuff those advances fairly effectively. nonetheless, over the next 10 minutes, i kept my eyes fixated squarely on her legs, and every time she spun around, my eyes would shift focus on to her very round ass. and occasionally, when the mood dictated, i would strain my neck and look up at her face, seeing nothing but a mouthful of teeth glowing in the neon light. beyond that i could tell that she had a very cute little face, so i was content. as i was about to leave, i talked a little with the girl on the table, and we got a good rapport going. i eventually returned and bfed this girl, so keep that in mind.
next stops: a series of crappy, loser bars, imho
next: shark. i walked in and the place was so full i could not find a seat. i mean, it was only me (one small-framed guy), and there was not a single spot of space in the entire joint. there were plenty of girls on stage, but shit, this was ridiculous. so i about-turned and left. technically this is not a crappy bar, but it was just too full. this means it is probably really good, but if you can't get in, then what's the use?
next: tilak. this place was also fullish, and very, very loud. i sat in the back and got accosted by a pretty girl who looked to be in her late twenties, early thirties. certainly not my type (skinny), but i needed something to divert my attention, so i bought her a drink. as soon as it arrived, she gulped the tequila down and announced it was time for her to dance. when she told me this, i did not even acknowledge her and just looked away. she sat for a moment trying to figure out if i had heard it or not, and then she figured out that this was my passive-aggressive reaction, and so she slinked away. i was too tired of this shit – bad behavior, ripping of falang, that's it for me and tilak. i've been in there a half dozen times or so and it is always the same shit. this is certainly only my experience and ymmv, but i'm hereby announcing that tilak will be receiving neither kumbu's patronage nor baht.
tilak, you and i are officially done.
next was a place on the other side of the soi called dundee. i walked in and sat in front of three dancers of negligible quality. the waitress came over and asked what i wanted to drink, and then asked me if i wanted a girl to come and sit with me. i said “no, not now”. she said “ok” and left. mama san immediately arrived and pointed to the girls and asked which one i wanted. i said “not now please.” so she left.
then a hostess girl, you know, one of those girls dressed in street clothes but who works there to hustle customers out of their cash, she made looksies with me. i ignored her, and so she indicates she wants to join me. i shook my head and indicated 'no' with my hand. she ignored this and came over anyway. as she was walking over i held out my hand to indicate 'no!”, but she came anyway. she squeezed into the space next to me, pushing me aside, and said “can i talk with you?” i said “i want to be alone thanks” to which she replied 'where you come from?” i told her america, and she said “oh nice. can you buy me a drink?”
grumpy kumbu.
i rolled my eyes. took a deep breath, got up and walked out. the waitress was upset because my drink was on its way, so she just lost a tip, but does kumbu care? i think not.
next, i went to midnite, and was escorted in by a girl in a cowboy hat, cowboy boots, and more metal in her teeth than an iron ore mine in papua new guinea. she had long, beautiful hair that went down to her ass, and ears that popped straight out from her head, literally pointing in either direction. this had a kind of endearing effect on me, so after a few moments of chatting i bought her a drink, which was cool. but as soon as it arrived, a parasite friend arrives and chumps me for another drink. oh my buddha, what is it with the hustling tonight?! i ignored her, paid for both drinks (undrunk at this point) and just got the fuck out of dodge.
finally, things begin to work for kumbu
getting downright pissed, i decided to go back to dollhouse for one last shot at the pretty, toothy girl with the voluminous ass. when i got in, i sat downstairs, and to my surprise my tooth-filled girl had moved from upstairs to downstairs. cool, so we made googly eyes for a good 10 minutes while she danced. as she did so, she undulated around the pole really well – swinging her ass left and right, bending well at the knees, using her hips very well. i kept getting distracted by the smile on this girl. her teeth were straight and plentiful, and so that's all i could see beyond the ass. so when she faced me the target for my eyes were her teeth, and when she turned the other way, it was her ass. when the shift changed, she giggled her way over to me - and all i saw was a jiggling bum and a bouncing set of teeth. she was super, super cute, and super, super fun. she did not hustle me at all – not once did she ask for a drink, or a bf, or anything else for any of her fucking friends or anything like that. and then her turn to dance came up again, and so she scampered off to jiggle her stuff for me on stage, all in a great, easy, frivolous mood.
on the next rotation i offered her a drink, and she was very pleased and appreciative. see, this is what it should be like. at around this time, i got a text from spider saying he was on his way. cool, the evening was looking up.
a few minutes later spider arrives and i was quite glad to see him. the shit i had been through was slowly wearing on me, and so his arrival meant some pleasurable talking with a sophisticated, easy gentleman, along side this pleasurably easy girl who was courting me. so we talked while we sipped the beer, and my girl giggled around us like a giddy school child.
after 20 minutes or so, spider spots a couple of friends of his, and suddenly there is a group of us. we talked and drank and basically shot the shit for another hour or so, moving upstairs and continuing up there for a while. it was a low-key, pleasurable time spent amongst mongers in a bangkok gogo bar. i think this is a part of the mongering experience that a lone ranger such as myself should experience more often – it was indeed relaxing and enjoyable. many thanks to spider for being such a hospitable host.
the club announced they were closing at 2:30, so i bfed my girl for 600b. we had agreed to 1500 st, as i needed to get up in the morning. furthermore, she told me that she had a 'reservation' in the early morning. at the time, i thought this meant she had a customer waiting, but later i found out it was something else (unrelated to sex, actually. yah, hard to believe.).
snakes, bats, mice, vampires, zombies...they all have nothing on this
we walked over to the hotel and up to the room. we talked for 20 minutes or so as she sipped some water, and then she strips off. damn girlfriend! she had one hell of an ass on her, and i was getting pretty wet thinking about what i would do to that ass. so i strip and we enter the shower together. i start to wash her off, focusing on the ass and legs of course (you know, leopard, spots and all that). as i am squatting with her soapy ass in my face, i notice the water at her feet was brown. huh? i look up at her in confusion, and see absolute, sheer terror on her face. her eyes are as wide and the same shape as dollar coins, her mouth is contorted in a silent scream, her lips pulled back revealing her teeth, all 48 of them, and her hands start to grasp aimlessly at nothing much. snakes, bats, mice, vampires, zombies were nothing compared to whatever was causing this fear in her.
“tilaaaaak...” she murmurs as she desperately clutches at my shoulders to get up. i'm still dumb and dumber, and i get to my feet not quite registering the gravity of the situation. although from the look on her face i can see something serious is up.
“tilaaaaak....i tink....me have peliod.”
aaw fudgestickles! big, sticky, smelly, stale fudgestickles with shit-chips stuck up my ass with some chili pepper sauce. that's how i felt. goddam, what's next, will she start singing phil collins songs now? or tell me how the american tax system overtaxes the wealthy? or try to convince me how apple is a corporation with a conscience, and not evil like all other corporations? grrrrr.
she kicks me out of the shower, and i stew in the bedroom for a few moments, wondering what i had done to jesus and/or mohamed in my past life such that buddha was fucking me like this. she steps out of the bathroom and says that because it is the first day of her period, we can still do it...if i want.
no, i do not want, thanks. but i did pay her bf, so something needs to happen. she agrees, and promises to make it good. but she cannot do toot, she says in no uncertain terms. so i ask her “what then?” and she says “what you want?”
we eventually worked out a plan. i told her that either i get a good time, or she goes home empty handed. and she had no complaint whatsoever – she was really aghast and embarrassed that we were in this situation. so she strips off, and i can see a tampon string sticking out of her pussy. eeew. i tried to ignore it.
instead, i focused on those beautiful, round buns on her backside. with her standing at the bed's edge, me sitting on the bed, i started to kiss her ass cheeks, and after a few moments of this i began to smell the odor of her period. ugh. so i pushed her away a little and just massaged and groped her butt for a good five minutes. i must say that was getting me off pretty well.
she then turned around, dropped to her knees and started to give me a bbbj. she was aaaaaweful at it! i mean, she tried her best, and gave me all the effort she could, but effort does not belie the absence of talent. so i endured the rather toothy, arrhythmic, haphazard bj for a few minutes, and then decided the ass was the way to go. so i flipped her onto the bed, my dick still sloppy from her bj, and i slipped it between her gynormous butt cheeks (no insertion, just a hot-dog in a bun situation). i started to give myself an ass job, if you will, using the butt cheeks to produce the desired amount of friction. she was kind of a passive participant in this, but she didn't complain or anything. i suddenly realized that i was sans condom...and i was rubbing my dick against her bare asshole...probably not wise at all. but i was already mid-event here, and i couldn't just stop. after all, if i slap a condom on, one of the unlubricated trojans that i have, how would i ass-job myself? i didn't have any lube with me. spit, perhaps, but i had a better idea. see, problem solving skills are our species' forte. here's how i solved the problem, thereby exemplifying our superiority over all other animals: i squashed her ass cheeks together so as to create some height in the flesh, and my dick was now fully engulfed in ass meat, but not really in direct contact with her asshole i know this is still not the best of things, but that was my compromise. i'd like to see some vervet monkey figure that one out, phphphp. i pumped, groaned, squeezed, massaged the cheeks, and eventually blew my load into the small of her back.
i heaved a sigh of relief, and as i did so i smelled the odor of my own cum, as it began to dribble bedwards. i grabbed some tissues and wiped her off. i showered myself, and then she cleaned up without actually taking another shower (i suppose the tampon in there must make that awkward, dunno).
we talked for another half hour. she is a sweet thing for sure, and so i was bitterly disappointed that it had turned out this way, but what is one to do? i gave her 1000b for effort, attitude and superlative gluteal dimensions, and sent her on her way. as she left, she apologized for the umpteenth time, and to tell the truth, it did make me feel better.
i finally got to sleep around 4am, and with my alarm clock set for 9am to get to work an hour late at 10am, i thought i would get a good five hours of sleep. instead, the jet lag conspired to screw me of my sleep, and my eyes popped wide open at 4:51am. shit, tonight i was hustled by everyone and everything, including the cosmic forces of time and space.
Kumar Arun
09-20-10, 14:31
Got up pretty late in the day, went again to Bawarchi to have enjoy another round of meal. Just liked the food and ate little too much than usual. SY was mentioning about Plaza Entertainment complex and decided to check it out. Reached there with little difficulty due to our own stupidity and language barrier. Checked cupidz(on on the basement) didn't find any good ones, so went next level, again few choices, went to 6th floor Aqua. Again very few choices (it must be around 4 then. To early for birds to reach their nests I guess). Then by taxi did some touring of Angaah, J1, Amsterdam. But hardly any likable choices. Decided to head back to hotel to relax. On the way back, decided to check out Annies. More about this later, but Annies was not for my types.!
As we were walking back to hotel discussing how Annies doesn't require touts as we the member of this forums help them to sustain business.! One of the taxi fellow offered us to take to Plaza at 20 Baht and I took the offer, but SY had to go back to hotel to charge his mobile, so alone proceeded back to Plaza. By the time I reached it must have been about 7PM. As usual scanned Basement and 1st floor, didn't like anybody. Moved to Aqua. Stark difference. Matter of few hours, the nest was full of birds. Plenty to choose from at different price levels. The old man who was escorting was real pushy and he wanted to choose one in hurry. But pushed him aside sat there started scanning with eagle eyes. One bird was making eye contact to me and looked pretty young and somehow I melted to that look. Such an innocent face and twinkles in her eyes (which I cud see from about 7mtrs distance) attracted me and told old man to call her over. As she got up from her seat and started walking I was patting my own back for the decision I've made. She walked so slowly and felt she's taking eternal to reach my seat. One of the best "CAT WALK" I've seen. (if one goes back to ancient stories its called "DEAR WALK"). She was wearing tiger marked smallish cloth which was revealing right amount of skin at right places. Though wee bit disappointed looking at her smallish boobies but better than plastic man made ones.! I had a beer in hand as usual she bend over and did "Namastey" and sat next to me. As usual chit chats about names, country, etc etc. I'm feeling good.!
Paid the charges at counter, headed towards the room. Very spacious room, neat clean no smell good view of neighborhood, and mirrors all over. Vow.
As I was lighting a cigy to relax and get used to the atmosphere, Nook came close to me gave one of her deadly very sensuous smile. She just opens her lip little bit exhibits her milky white tooth with little bit of tongue popping somewhere. Just cudn't resist. Pulled close to me and gave a deep, real long kiss. Each our tongues exploring depth of other's mouth. What a start.! By now maid entered and started preparing for the bath ordered a beer, sat there admiring the beauty of the lady in my hand. After some 5 mins or so everything was set for exciting "bedazzled" session. As I finished smoking she was ready without cloths. Very lean tight smooth curvaceous body lovely clean shaven Y. Little boobies were irrespective for me as I was completely blown over other factors around. She helped to get ride of my cloths and gave a surprise look at my Johny. There is nothing much to write about the massage here. One of the other girls whom I asked to do more massage said. "no massage here. Only bath and sex. If you want massage why waste money here go to some proper thai mp". How true.! We got ourselves immersed in the giant tub. She gave a bath washed me everywhere and including Johny. Also gave a real wet BBBJ after washing. I thought of coming in her mouth but somehow do not wanted to dirty her. Instead pulled her and started eating her pussy. Washed it with cold beer and it was as delicious as I've ever tasted. She was moaning to the glory and was completely enjoying the one of the nicest pussy I could lay my hands (or tongue). Almost 30 mins of our allotted time wud 've passed by now. So decided to move over to bed. She dried me and washed herself. Gave some mouth freshener and also washed her pussy with the same. Once we moved to bed I was kissing like a maniac. She was responding so positively that I forgot who I am(Lost in LOS. Still haven't figured it. S for SEX or SMILE). We were exploring and biting each other as much as we could. She slowly moved and started kissing my nipples, played with them for few mins and moved further south to JOhny. He was standing as if he requires lot of attention and that's what she did. She sucked it real wet for few mins, played with my balls, sucked them deep inside her mouth, kissed me all along my legs. So fascinating. After a while pulled her up and again deep kissing. I'm running out of words for the expression here. Got myself top of her and played with those small cherry like nipples for a while. I was one of the best moaning sound I've ever heard. Moves further down and kissed all the way till her toe. Played with them for while, and moved to pussy. It was tasting great with Listerine wash and my tongue was all over her pussy. She was moaning little louder and getting real wet now. It must be my longest DATY. I felt she came once while I was doing this. Her body shivered and almost she bounced of bed. Now we get into Final Act. She pulled me over and put the condoms smoothly. I was feeling this is one of the best erections I've ever had. Started with misshy. Though she had a tight one, since she was so wet I found no difficulty in thrusting mine completely into her. As I entered completely inside her she gave a loudest moan. Her nipples were very erect from the excitement. Entered completely inside and kissed her even more passionately. Her response to the whole action was so good she was reciprocating the same passion with which I was doing the act. Slowly started moving up and down. Removed completely couple of times. Slowly without removing mine outside she slowly moved top of me. She moved there like a salsa dancer and I was feeling her inside muscles movement. Now she was getting tired. I pulled me out slowly and asked her to go to doggy position. She gave a slow pat on my cheeks, smiled and moved to the position. Slowly I inserted again started doing the action. She was on cloud nine by now. Still my johny was going strong and she now started requesting me to come. Again pulled myself out, went back to mishy. Started the action again. She was kissing me so deeply. Now I felt she wanted more of me and responded with all I could. Damn it. She gave me that smile again and my Johnny completely lost now. Exploded and I let out a good loud moan. She held my shivering body tightly and we stayed in that kissing position for a while. Then she ever slowly removed my johny from hers and using napkin removed condom and cleaned me. Then she gave a standing bath and she also had shower.
Having completely lost all of my strength and sat there sipping remaining beer and smoking a ciggy. She came up started dressing. Again ever so slow movements. So fucking erotic. We were almost running overtime here and requested for few snaps which she happily obliged. Got myself dressed with her help. Stole another nice deep kiss, said good bye to her promised to call her to my room. But Alas. That never happened. No wonder they call Bangkok either it MISS or HIT.
I'm really losing my senses here. Yet to know whether its for SEX or SMILE.!
Checked out SK a few times even if it's very far from where my hotel is. My Thai is only very basic so I had difficulties communicating even though in most paces they have usually one mamsan or waitress who speaks ok English. I did not think that the girls where any better than SC or NEP. The cutie I spoke to did not want to go to my hotel as it was too far and proposed some short-time place nearby but when I saw that horrible room, I just gave her a tip and left to SC. No way I would have undressed in that fleapit.
I have not visited this area recently, but a reliable friend of mine was there a few days ago and he confirmed that the going rates are still 1500-1600 baht ST and 2000-2100 baht LT in several go-go bars of Saphan Kwai.
No barfine, but as mentioned earlier, you are charged for the time spent in these establishment in the company of the girl(s) of your choice (about 150 baht/per hour and per girl).
Life is Good
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Great report as always. It was indeed a pleasure to see you again. Thanks for pointing out that her bj skills sucks. I just deleted her from my todo list.
Did you see that Stick wrote about Som (Nummber 8)? Now she will be even more popular than before...
I was at Shox (300 B. cover)
What and where is shox? Never heard about it
While we are on the subject, as a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic near Nana are in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Thank you.
Thanks for the links. I already knew the figures mentioned on Thailand Guru's website.
The last PDF document ("HIV-1 infection among female commercial sex workers in rural Thailand") is obsolete (their data were collected between 1989 and 1993!).
I can't see where it is written that 19% of freelancers are HIV infected, as you stated in a previous post. In the first PDF document, it is written that "The HIV prevalences among the street-based sex workers, brothel-based sex workers and other women in these areas not reporting sex work who tested in the clinics were 45.8% (38/83), 4.2% (10/236) and 9.9% (28/284), respectively".
By the way, those figures should be taken with a pinch of salt, as only 684 women were tested, and in Bangkok only.
I gave her 1000B for effort, attitude and superlative gluteal dimensions, and sent her on her way. As she left, she apologized for the umpteenth time, and to tell the truth, it did make me feel better.
That is good that you gave her less than the full amount agreed upon.
New Old Guy
09-20-10, 18:54
What and where is shox? Never heard about it
It's a new club, correct name is Shock 39, sorry.
http://www.bangkokrecorder.com/shock-39-new-club-opening-on-petchburi-road-s
Bumrungrad, Samitivej, BNH, Sukhumvit Hospital, Carmilain etc etc etc
While we are on the subject, as a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic near Nana are in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Thank you.
Somewhere15
09-20-10, 23:05
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider916
What and where is shox? Never heard about it
It's a new club, correct name is Shock 39, sorry.
http://www.bangkokrecorder.com/shock-39-new-club-opening-on-petchburi-road-s
I was there mid July 2010. The old name is Boss club. Today is totally renuwed and they removed the 2 pool tables the old club has.
When I was there (around 01:00 AM) on a weekday it was really empty, nice club, nice music but ....no action (and a lot of ladyboys).
I did not gave it another visit in August, will check again as of mid October.
Etaoin2003
09-21-10, 00:46
While we are on the subject, as a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic near Nana are in case I come down with a dose of something.
If you came down with the grizzly shits and your arms and legs fell off, you could still crawl to Bumrumgrad, one of the world's best hospitals, only a block or so to the north of Nana. It's an international medical tourism destination.
http://www.bumrungrad.com/
Life is GoodAs I left my hotel room on the way to work, I felt the bounce in my step, the pep in my grin, and the will to power on through the fatigue. Work went fine, thank you very much, and I was home by 6pm. I had a beer meeting set up with a fellow ISGer for 8pm, so I grabbed a quick power-nap, showered, and trotted off to soi 11 to meet up with one of the finer individuals on this board.
Like-minded Mongers
I forgot to ask his permission to mention his username, so I will just talk about him in the abstract. Turns out he was with his semi-girl-friend – a truly delightful, pretty little thing who giggled and teased just like a GF is supposed to do. We talked, drank some beer, and wiled away about the psychology of mongering, the technical difficulties we encounter, the highs and the lows. It was a pleasure, sir, and I look forward to our next encounter.Ha ha! Flattery will get you everywhere! But it a was a pleasure to meet with you too, Kumbu.
And indeed, The Shrimp is a particularly fine specimen of Thai femininity. I have known her now for over two years, grow increasingly fond of her and still relish a few days in her company.
Did you see that Stick wrote about Som (Nummber 8)? Now she will be even more popular than before...Yeah, I saw that yesterday - funny. So the word is out, and I think you can expect to never see the girl. Oh well.
That is good that you gave her less than the full amount agreed upon.I thought you'd like that. Actually, just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off: so apologetic was she, I could easily have given her 500B and she would have been happy. But in my opinion, given her attitude, and her willingness to let me have my way with her glutes, I thought she deserved what I gave her.
Callypso King
09-21-10, 07:14
In one of my recent trips came across an expat and he mentioned about a book named Thai Girls Revealed. He shared some fascinating stories as how he unearthed a huge gold mine of crazy sex lovers in Thailand..Just went through their website and although it looks appealing just thought of getting a first hand review from the members and seniors of Thailand.
The website reads "Expatriate Reveals The SHOCKING REALITY Behind The Thai Bar Girl Culture!"
http://bit.ly/ddbLTU
Any views?
Oh God, what the hell?
Barely having slept, I found myself at work on a Sunday morning at 9am. People around me were happy, peppy, buzzing around. I had a perpetual crumpled brow, a look of belligerence in my eyes, a frailty of patience all around me, and a slur of fatigue in my voice.
Peppy worker 1: Good morning!
Peppy worker 2: :) Did you ;) have a nice :) Saturday evening?! :) ;)
Peppy worker 3: This project is so exciting, isn't it? I'm so glad to be here on a Sunday morning!
Kumbu: Aaw fffffffff...whatever. Where's the coffee?
At around that time, David33, who coincidentally is in town now, texts me to set things up for the evening. I am psyched about hanging with David – he's a senior ISG member, forum moderator, and experienced monger all around. I am sure I will not only learn a lot, but it will be a blast. So I tell my work people that I need the afternoon off. I get vague responses of confusion – they have no evidence of the kind of nights I enjoy. I mean, I'm sure they suspect, but there is no direct evidence – of that I am sure. And because I am so meticulous about maintaining this veneer of respectability at work, I have never missed so much as a minute of work. This was the first time in a long time that I was missing some part of work. But hey, I have chores to do, plus I could meet with David for lunch or something.
So that's what we do – grab some falafel in the soi behind Big C, chat over a triple-espresso and other beverages, and talk politics, literature, mongering, and all manner of things. It was a pleasure.
I eventually leave David, with plans to meet up again at NEP later that night. I spent the afternoon scoping out hotels. The plan was to move out of the Grand Millennium and into something else, just because I want to see what various hotels are like. I scoped out the Park Plaza, Admiral Premiere, S15, and Dream hotel. I eventually ended up booking Hotel Solo, mostly on Mouse's recommendation, and I'll let you all know what I think of that sometime soon. (So far so good, Mouse!)
Got back to the hotel at 5pm, napped a little, and got ready for the night out. I grabbed some quick dinner and then another triple espresso, and jittered my way over to NEP to meet up with David. There were some decent looking FLs in front of the NEP, which distracted us before we went in.
NEP – An Historic Low?
Ok, so tonight NEP was a fucking disaster, and I don't know why. It was downright depressing, I'm sad to say. It ultimately ended well, but still, the atmosphere in each bar, the quality of girls, the variety available...it all sucked. But nonetheless, here is the run-down.
Rainbow 1
David and I poked our heads into a bar or two for some quick looks, but nothing worth talking about. We included in this head-poking session Rainbow 1, which if you recall from my previous report was totally packed the night before. But today, at around 8:30pm, there were three girls on stage and a dozen guys. It was nothing like the night before, and that was just odd. I scanned for the old boozer from last night, and not even he was in there. Turns out that almost all the bars in NEP were the same tonight – empty and dead. That's what I mean by it being depressing.
Lollipop, Spanky's, Angelwitch
The girls in Lollipop were completely uninspired and uninspiring. They looked bored and depressed, and there was just no buzz in the place. David and I sat there for 20 minutes, rather sadly trying to feel optimistic. We eventually bailed, at which point David went back to his nearby-hotel for a few minutes, and I made my way to Spanky's and then Angelwitch. Both these places were dead as doornails. There were 6 girls in Spanky's, none of which were BF worthy, and the same deal in Angelwitch.
There was a Manchester United – Liverpool game on at the time, and that might have had something to do with it, but I've never seen NEP this bad before.
Carousel
Spider texted me at that point, and we agreed to meet at Carousel. I figured I would BF the waitress from the other night, given how slim the pickings seemed to be. So I walked over to Carousel, and to my utter shock, Carousel was totally dead as well. The B-team was on the main carousel, and the secondary carousel was empty. Furthermore, there were 4 girls on stage, none of whom were worth a second glance. There were four other guys in the whole place, all looking bored, jiggling with their phones or something like that. It was pathetic.
But my girl was there, and she was happy to see me. So I sat down, and slipped my hand between her legs and got a good, firm handful of slinky thigh meat. Ah, the night may be looking up. Crabby Kumbu was beginning to emerge from his cocoon.
Spider walked in, and he too was a little shocked by the deadness of the place (and Spider knows this place well). So when David arrived back, we decided to bail and head over to Rainbow 4.
Rainbow 4
Rainbow 4 was jumping and buzzing. It was packed full of girls and customers – it was almost as if all the activity in NEP had been focused on this one bar to the exclusion of everything else. We got stuck in the far corner on the right as you enter, which was a crap location. So David, Jedi Master that he is, calls over the papa san, and with a wave of his hand, he plays a Jedi Mind trick on the man.
Jedi David: These seats are terrible, is there anything else available?
StormTrooper PapaSan: No sir, we all full.
Jedi David: You will get us good seats. (waves hand across his face)
StormTrooper PapaSan: I will get you good seats.
And off he runs. 3 minutes later, he comes back and ushers us to a table right at the foot of the stage with a perfect view of the girls on the left side of the bar – what I described to David as Prime Time seats. See, timid Kumbu would have sat back and taken my bad luck, but David, master as he is, decided to be the master of his own destiny. The Jedi Powers inspire confidence, I am sure, and the pink bills discretely slipped into papa sans palms don't hurt either.
As we were being shown to the table, Spider spied a pair of big boobs on a skinny girl and without a jot of hesitation motioned for her to join us. It was almost a reflex action, something that comes from years of experience – an art that is well-honed amongst the top mongers in the field. Again, timid Kumbu would have hesitated, belying his amateur status in the field.
We were all ogling the boobs because we couldn't figure out if they were real or not. I mean, they were unnaturally large for a girl of her slender frame, suggesting artificial enhancement. But they looked really good (i.e., no overt evidence of tampering or foul-play), so we were confused. When she arrived, it was like take-your-boob-to-school day, where she was playing show-and-tell and we were trying to all get our fingers in there to see if they were real. Imagine 30 fingers all poking at once at the chest of this poor girl – I felt a little sorry for her, but she didn't seem to mind. Even after these thirty fingers had poked around sufficiently, we were still in disagreement as to their authenticity, and so David said to her “Silicone?” and she nods yes.
Wow, three experienced mongers, and we couldn't really figure it out, which is quite remarkable. She paid 50K for them, and given the quality of the work, I'd say that was 50K well-spent.
Anyway, no longer holding any interest or use to us, she left, while David scoped out a cute little dark-skinned girl. She had a spectacularly sweet face, and a body to boot. But she got snapped up by a limp-dicked looking guy behind us. Nonetheless, 10 minutes later, she was back up on stage, which was a bad sign.
Eventually, David decides he wants to talk to this girl. We can't find mama san to get the girl, so I ask a waitress to get the girl for David. The problem was the waitress thought it was ME asking for the girl, so she came over thinking I was interested in her. Confusion reigned. I then made the mistake of asking her her name (she seemed nervous and needed a soft touch), but this just further confused her, since she was getting signals from both me and David. At this point, realizing the problem, David explained to dumbass Kumbu what was happening, and I sheepishly stepped out of it.
So this girl was about as disinterested in customers as I have ever seen. I mean, there was just nothing coming from her – her super-pretty eyes were focused off in the distance except when spoken directly to. Her body language spoke a single phrase, loud and clear: “Fuck Off.” This is why the limp-dicked guy had not gotten anywhere, and it was pretty obvious that this was not going to go anywhere with David either. He did his best, but he was swimming against a pretty strong current. This girl was clearly not in the mood, and despite David being a charming muther-fucker, nothing was going to happen. 5 minutes later, David cut her loose and tossed this starfish back into the ocean for her to flit off into whatever oblivious current she wished to. Good choice David.
Mandarin
We bailed, and David decided he needed to test the FL scene, while Spider and I visited Mandarin (upstairs). So we bade farewell to the Jedi Master, and went up into the darkness of Mandarin. The Long-legged team was on stage. There were quite a few customers here, and actually a good number of girls, but nothing really spectacular. We waited for the shift change, and the school girls came on stage. Nothing much there either. I bought a girl a LD, but no sparks flew.
Miscellaneous
Next, we poked our heads into a couple of bars: Rainbow 3 and Erotica (downstairs). These all looked terrible and dead, with three or four girls on stage. We went to Erotica (upstairs) and at least had a beer each before bailing there too. Shit, how many places did we go to tonight, and there was just nothing there? We were commenting on just how fucking picky we have become, but I don't think it was just our pickiness – NEP was particularly bad tonight.
Back to Carousel
Luckily, we decided to go back to Carousel, since I wanted to grab my waitress again. Upon entry, things were bustling a little more than before, and pretty soon my waitress was rubbing her ass all over me. Good girl. She was wearing a frilly black underwear which was poking out of her tiny little skirt. I enjoyed playing with that little strap of frilly black.
The girl was working it. She placed my hand on her ass and then started to gyrate, making sure that my hand would rub backwards over her asshole, and then forwards across her pussy. Good girl. I felt the musty dampness of her pussy, and rather than being repulsed by that, I pulled my hand back and took a long, seriously depraved inhalation. Mmmm, dank, sweaty pussy...that reminded me of my dog Boner, who when I was young taught me a lot about life. In this case, he taught me that sticking your nose into a pretty b*itches ass/pussy can be quite liberating.
I looked over and saw a thin cutie had started working Spider, and a smile was finally beginning to creep across his face. His brow was still a little furrowed – a residue of the run of loser bars we had just completed tonight.
A few moments later, my girl was rubbing my fully erect penis through my jeans, which was making a little bit of a mess in my shorts, with precum and everything. But that ain't gonna stop me. And a few minutes after that, I looked over at Spider, and he now had a second girl with a fucking smoking hot body writhing like a serpent all over him, while that other thin cutie was working his midsection. That hint of a smile had grown into a full-on grin now, and his brow was clear and spry. Good for you Spider – you worked hard tonight for this, you deserve it.
Ok, the time was right, so we each paid up and walked out of there like the winners that we were. We had run the gauntlet of bars at NEP at its historic worst, and we had come out with prizes worthy of gold. Two guys and three girls walked through the complex and into the bustling, crowded streets of Sukhumvit, the world watching, knowing full well what was in store for these happy souls tonight.
As we got into our respective taxis, I exchanged a knowing wave with Spider, and he gave me a small smile with the sharpest of eye gazes. That said it all. I thought to myself, “That lucky bastard is going to get his brains double-fucked tonight. I need to do my fair share to keep this a balanced equation.”
In my next post, I describe the hotel room activities. That will come in a while – I need to get back to work for a while.
. . . you could still crawl to Bumrumgrad, one of the world's best hospitalsWell it certainly has some of the best advertising, I guess, if people really think it's a world-class facility. For the clap they'll give you a jab and a few pills, B5000-6000 thank you very much. Got to pay for all that nice wall-to-wall carpeting somehow.
The STD clinic on Suk 11 is well regarded and fairly priced.
Kumar Arun
09-21-10, 11:42
after memorable encounter with nook, wanted to test one more from aqua. (also i had some spare time on hand as it was pretty early to go clubbing. sipped couple of beers and finally picked one which was looking little old. wanted to enjoy an experienced hand on job, she was smiling and doing eye contact with me. i think her name was "mayee". lets call her m. i was completely exhausted after my session with nook, my better senses should've prevailed and moved out of aqua. but wild instincts took over and opted for this session. though m had a great body nice right sized boobies and great ass, she wouldn't match nook anywhere while it comes at smiling. it was very very "plastiky". so we got naked and got into tub, usual foam bath and everything but little bro just won't get up. may be he was getting ready for clubbing. so i asked her to do some oil massage. very reluctantly she did that and i could read some kind of disappointment on her face. (may be she believes in doing her job true to prescription).
somehow finished allotted 1. 5hrs and left the place even without tipping (in fact i was very generous with nook and tipped her handsomely). came down and got onto one of the waiting taxi outside and asked him to take me to nearest club. he took me to bossy in double quick time. paid as per the meter.!
1st look around bossy didn't impress me i didn't like the smell of the place either as they allow smoking inside. floors were awful seating arrangements were not so comfortable. 300b as cover charges for one drink. few guys hanging here and there and almost no lady patrons. got myself with a serving lady and he was very very friendly. very talkative and gave me all the reasons why i should hang around little more. couple of drinks down, the crowd was building up. lots of russians and few thai chics were standing sitting and enjoying not so great music. over all disappointed after enjoying the whole experience at cm2 yesterday night. kept on looking at different faces, spoke to couple of them and was thinking about to moving to cm2. as i was finishing the drink caught a pretty face in the crowd and moved towards her and started as usual talk. i think her name was hameena(anyways its all fake names, lets call a fake name by another fake name.!)she was tall, about 5. 7, may be around 30 and was able to make very descent conversation in english. pulled her out of noisy interior and sat outside and smoking and talking terms and conditions. she looked ok in bright lit corridor, and decided zero on her as i had no energy left to fish another. hired metre taxi and she wanted to have food. even i wanted to have some nice italian pizza, tried to explain our requirement to the taxi driver but he dropped us at a sea food restaurant. since i don't eat non vegy stuff, decided to leave the place without having food. then i explained i got some indian ready mix food at room and i can be her cook for the night. she said won't mind having indian food, and dashed straight to the room. once back in the room, made some drinks and prepared the dinner in zippy. she enjoyed the food as well i cherished feeding her the same. she was more towards the quiter type girl (i think she has something else going on her mind, may be thinking about her family back home). then i played some indian music on youtube and she started dancing and she kind of likes indian music(this fact is common for all ruskies i met this trip, i plyed it to my advantage. more i had a pic of me with srk helped a lot. lol). nearly 3 in the morning and she got a call from her friend saying she has no money for taxi and donnno what to do. like a generous king, i said aske her come over will pay for the taxi. though her friend was pretty, i coud make out she has drunk more than she cud handle. so paid for her taxi also some more money and sent her back.
came back to room, both of us took bath. she had a good pair of boobs, not to big not too small, not saggy, not too firm. liked the same and standing we were moving to some slow music and enjoying each others body. nearly 30 mins slow movement on floor, we proceeded to bed. we kissed, ate each other, hugged each other and were rolling in the bed for nearly one hour. finally wore condom and started mishy. then moved to doggy. then changed to she on top. all along she was more mechanical than erotic. may be after 15 mins or so i was done. cleaned ourselves, by the time i cud get sleep, i was seeing some daylight peeping thru my window. not a very great encounter but all the while very satisfying. paid her dues in the morning around 10 with some taxi changes and slept back as i my body was totally drained off after a very very very long day at los.
so kind of mixed bag day at los. had one of life time experience with nook, disastrous 2nd session and average time with rusky. i know i was spending money as if it grows in my backyard tree but who cares when you are in los for the 1st time.! again thank you los, i'm happy.
some research for my bbbj plans.
about safe bbbj's, the last girl i had at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s told me not to worry, because they get tested every three months!
"but maybe customer not check .."
"yeh! no goot for laddee!"
I have heard talk about the SK bars, are they worth going to as a farang?
There's been a number of reports on the forum about them, it would be cool if you could review them and ask more informed questions.
Very shortly, I'll say that it can be a frustrating experience, and that I've encountered more fucked-up girls there than in the farang places, as in self-scarring, or with facial sores. The last one I did there seemed OK in the club, but turned out to be drunk enough to pass out during sex. I left her out cold in the short-time room. The guy at the desk had also passed out. These were really crummy rooms and I very nearly got scalded in the shower, go to Suparb or Pluem Dee instead (search the forum).
That said, there are pretty girls if you look around.
Franco Cozzo
09-21-10, 15:21
Kumbu, thank you for your reports - they are informative, well written and have a sense of humour.
I will definately be using them for guidance when I visit Thailand in January.
In one of my recent trips came across an expat and he mentioned about a book named Thai Girls Revealed. He shared some fascinating stories as how he unearthed a huge gold mine of crazy sex lovers in Thailand..Just went through their website and although it looks appealing just thought of getting a first hand review from the members and seniors of Thailand.
The website reads "Expatriate Reveals The SHOCKING REALITY Behind The Thai Bar Girl Culture!"
http://bit.ly/ddbLTU
Any views?
You should put this in Classified Ad where it belongs.
Lover Boy #2
09-22-10, 05:12
Checked out SK a few times even if it's very far from where my hotel is. My Thai is only very basic so I had difficulties communicating even though in most paces they have usually one mamsan or waitress who speaks ok English. I did not think that the girls where any better than SC or NEP. The cutie I spoke to did not want to go to my hotel as it was too far and proposed some short-time place nearby but when I saw that horrible room, I just gave her a tip and left to SC. No way I would have undressed in that fleapit.
I have been to this area many times with friends.....it is actually Thanon Sutthisan.....where all the lady bars are. My friends are mostly Thai and I can speak very passable Thai at this point.......but this is still really not a great place to get girls from for the average farang. You are faced with the "Thai style" mongering where they sit b.s.'ing for hours on end, eating food and generally being sociable with each other and the girls.....and of course, the girls are getting paid for being there...so b. s. on. The Thai guys rarely pick one of the girls to leave with.....it is a different style/culture. I honestly think they masturbate and save the money.... or fuck their girlfriends/wives and fantasize about the girls in the bar.
I have made a few picks from these night clubs.......they were very nice to me and a few were great sex partners.....but they know that I am connected to the Thai guys, so I think that is why problems have not arisen.
Generally, I would steer clear of this area as there are much better venues with similar pricing.
Last night, after a late afternoon appointment, I found myself on Sukhumvit Road at about 6 pm with nothing much to do for the evening. So...
I started with a two-hour Thai massage at Friends Barber and Massage on Soi 19. Good massage from a petite woman named Eve. No offer of anything other than the massage which was fine by me. Last time I was there I had an aroma massage from the famous "barber" Khun Anne. She finished the massage with one of the best HJs I've had in Bangkok (honestly, better than I can do myself ;)). She was not there last night, or I would have asked for a repeat performance. Definitely recommend her, not for her meaty girl mature looks, but her well-honed erotic pole polishing skills.
After the massage, I hoofed it over to Soi Cowboy for a burger at the Old Dutch Inn, and a stop in Suzie Wong's to see my favorite go-go girl, Nuan. It was quiet in SW's, and the dancer selection was looking very poor. Seems that all Thai just girls eat too much when they are not sleeping or watching TV.
The petite, topless Nuan, sweetie that she is, kept me company for awhile bouncing on my knee with a big smile. I bought her a drink, watched her dance a few rounds, tipped her, and left. Too bad Nuan will only go short time as she's a first rate Isaan tiger in the sack. Having spent a lot of time in Bangkok, I just don't like the same old rushed PSE much anymore. Rather than wander around the 'Boy spending money drinking, I walked over to the MRT to catch the train back to Silom where I live.
Next stop was the Safari Bar. Again, it was very quiet in the club. My regular gal (and friend), the uber-nasty Khun Nam, was wrapped around some guy, but she did manage a wai from behind his back. Last time I saw her she told me she was getting tired of the old "shower, boom-boom, shower" routine. But tonight, that famous Thai bargirl smile was on display once again!
A pretty gal, Khun Dar, came over to say hello and sit with me in between her dance turns. As much as I tried to engage her, (she looked very sexy while dancing), she turned out to be rather boring company. Ater a couple of drinks, I left at about midnight for a nightcap over at the Cleo Bar, next to the Star of Light. Lots of bored looking girls sitting around the bars over on Patpong 2. Not much of interest for me. After a string of terse text messages with my #1 GF, ("not come room"), I enjoyed one last G & T, and walked a few blocks home through the balmy night.
I slept well. Just another night in the City of Angels...
Pahllus Maximus
09-22-10, 07:48
does anyone know about the penthouse hotel limo ? it says on their site:-
executive privacy "champagne" hostess service. collection at the airport by private customized limousine 2 hostess / introductory escorts, who will meet you at the airport arrivals 2 bottles of ice cold bar champaign (sic) and cool towels to smooth your journey to pattaya......maybe a therapeutic thai massage on arrival !!! .. or .. before?!?!
and
select a movie from our cd/dvd library (two flat screen tv's) and settle down in the luxurious leather swivel chairs, complete privacy from both our driver and the outside world...cold towels to smooth away the stresses of travel in the company of our playful hostess guides, with complete privacy.
and drop off to usa (sex prison):-
"your fond farewell to thailand, lasting memories !"
anyone able comment on the playful hostess and the "therapeutic thai massage" en route ? i take it that means massage of their cervix and tonsils ?
to think of that contrasted with the old broiler hens known as flight attendants on united airlines ?
we need "nana plaza airlines" to while the time away over the pacific.
So this girl was about as disinterested in customers as I have ever seen. I mean, there was just nothing coming from her – her super-pretty eyes were focused off in the distance except when spoken directly to. Her body language spoke a single phrase, loud and clear: “Fuck Off.” This is why the limp-dicked guy had not gotten anywhere, and it was pretty obvious that this was not going to go anywhere with David either. He did his best, but he was swimming against a pretty strong current. This girl was clearly not in the mood, and despite David being a charming muther-fucker, nothing was going to happen. 5 minutes later, David cut her loose and tossed this starfish back into the ocean for her to flit off into whatever oblivious current she wished to. Good choice David.
You will meet girls like this In some gogo bars, they are so disinterested that you wonder how they make any money, If you guys are caucasian, maybe she only goes with khun yippon.
Does anyone know about the Penthouse Hotel Limo ? It says on their site:-
Executive Privacy "Champagne" Hostess Service. .
It costs 16,500 Baht - holy shit! Too rich for my blood! I'd rather save 15K, and spend it a half dozen girls, that I choose!
It costs 16,500 Baht - holy shit! Too rich for my blood! I'd rather save 15K, and spend it a half dozen girls, that I choose!
can you take the car back home for that amount?
I have been to this area many times with friends. It is actually Thanon Sutthisan. Where all the lady bars are. My friends are mostly Thai and I can speak very passable Thai at this point. But this is still really not a great place to get girls from for the average farang. You are faced with the "Thai style" mongering where they sit b. S. 'ing for hours on end, eating food and generally being sociable with each other and the girls. And of course, the girls are getting paid for being there. So b. S. On. The Thai guys rarely pick one of the girls to leave with. It is a different style/culture. I honestly think they masturbate and save the money. Or fuck their girlfriends/wives and fantasize about the girls in the bar.
I have made a few picks from these night clubs. They were very nice to me and a few were great sex partners. But they know that I am connected to the Thai guys, so I think that is why problems have not arisen.
Generally, I would steer clear of this area as there are much better venues with similar pricing.Care to share those venues? Hope you don't refer nana and cowboy. Because those are higher priced and lower quality than sutthisan in my opinion.
Lover Boy #2
09-23-10, 09:12
Care to share those venues? Hope you don't refer nana and cowboy. Because those are higher priced and lower quality than sutthisan in my opinion.
I think one of the lower cost Ap Op Nuat places is a much better venue for a farang when compared to Sutthisan. If you want to talk to the girls for long periods of time (speaking Thai for the most part), pay them for this honour, wine and dine them.....then pay them for take out......then Sutthisan. If you want to talk a little to test the waters, have a drink and maybe some food depending on the place....the Soapy seems better to me. Also, the Soapy girls are much more used to farang style fucking/sucking and other requests. Thai guys (generally) are not exploring the outer fringes of the sex scene from my conversations with them and the girls who are dedicated to servicing mostly Thai guys do not really appreciate farang wishes (of course "generally"). You might even be unlucky enough to get "you too big" back in the room before the action even starts....and don't forget, at Sutthisan many of the places want the whole fee up front, leaving the girl out of the transaction. If you have a problem in the room, you are not facing a bad "bar fine" situation, but a total fee situation.
You will meet girls like this In some gogo bars, they are so disinterested that you wonder how they make any money, If you guys are caucasian, maybe she only goes with khun yippon.Indeed. 5-5-5 is the mantra of the day, and to be honest, I don't blame the girls. We falang are a pretty mixed bunch. Some of us are cool characters, but others - not so much. Consider that drunken slob I saw in Rainbow 1, reported on a few days ago. He was a fucking mess. If you were a woman, and were being offered more money from a cleaner, more respectful, well-dressed gentleman from Japan, which would you choose?
I report on another case of bad behavior in my next-to-next report, a guy in Sheeba's at Soi Cowboy. An embarrassment to all men, IMHO. And if you are white and in your 40s, you should be angry as hell at the kind of behavior I will describe to you.
when we got into the room, we made out for 10 minutes or so, and then we talked for another 10 minutes. she asked me why my computer is always on, and why there is a video and slr camera on the desk all the time. i told her it's because i have a very bad memory and i need to take photos of everything so i remember. i asked her if it would be ok to take photos, and to make video of us as we had sex. she laughed, and then jokingly said 'suuuure, up to you.' this was clearly a joke, but...
this time we showered together, me washing out her cracks pretty well, and she washing out my butt crack again, with intentions to do some tongue probing. i also spent time washing her legs and feet, which was a genuine pleasure. while her hands are beautiful, her feet are less so. well, they're not ugly, but she had black polish on, which is just a losing proposition in my book. i have a theory that such polish is used to hide things, like fungus or yellowing nails, or whatever. but the structure of her foot was much like her hand – longish toes, well spaced, well shaped, with nice, large nails. her legs, you already know of their beauty, and of course her ass was large, round and spectacular. after i had soaped her, rinsed her repeated, and then repeated once more just for narcissistic pleasure, she dismissed me, as she had some feminine washing to do (with her little bottle of feminine wash). so i walked into the bedroom and started puttering around aimlessly.
i was reminded of that very first time i ever walked in to a house of ill repute, back when i was a tender 19 years of age. as i waited for the lady of my choosing to arrive in the room, i found myself puttering aimlessly, fidgeting with the various knick-knacks in the room, trying to distract my mind from freaking out about what was to come. the fact that i am now two decades more experienced does not seem to have changed my behavior in the slightest.
as i fidgeted, i'm not sure what came over me, but my video camera was sitting on the desk, and so i just hit the record button and came back to the bed. hmm, is kumbu about to be naughty?
she came in and jumped into bed and we started to fool around immediately. i was keenly aware that we were under the sheets, and so the camera was not catching anything of this. what's the point? so i asked her to do me a favor.
waitress: what?
kumbu: can you stand up for me?
waitress: stand? what?
kumbu: i want to see your beautiful body. can you stand up for me?
she unabashedly stood up for me, giving my camera a full ass-legs view of her. she then started doing a little writhing for the camera (unbeknownst to her, of course), and then she turned around and showed the other side. damn, this is not right – a secret camera is not really my style, but it was totally getting me off.
i was raised right, or so i like to tell myself, and so i couldn't go through with it. i could either fess up and potentially freak her out, or...
i said to her “can i use video camera, seriously?” she realized i was not joking and said she does not want things on the internet, especially her pussy and her breasts. so i told her that (i) we would leave the camera on the desk (thereby minimizing the chance of her pussy being shown on camera), and (ii) i would never release the video. she crooked her pinky, and i took it with mine. she did not even ask for any extra cash, which she easily could have done.
so i got up and pretended to fiddle and foddle with the camera, and then set it down in the very same spot. i motioned her to the foot of the bed, and right before the camera, i had her kneel and give me a bbbj. she was a little nervous about it, but i told her to forget about the camera and focus on me instead. she chuckled at that little tactic, and agreed.
she gave me quite a sloppy bbbj, although it wasn't superb or professional in any way. but not bad. i thought about unloading on her face for the money shot, but decided against it. instead, we did some serious daty and rim-jobbing for around 20 minutes (none of which was terribly interesting on tape afterwards). at one point, she was kneeled down revealing all her glorious girl-parts, and i was double fingering her pussy while my thumb was ass-poking her. i slowly pressed my fingers and thumb together so that my thumb could feel my two fingers through the wall that separates the vagina from the rectum. female biology – it's pretty amazing. she let me stretch things out gently, by me opening up my two fingers to make a scissors kind of hand shape. as i did that, my thumb went into her ass all the way down to the knuckle. it was tough going getting it in all the way, but she slowly relaxed and there i was. i slowly pulled all digits out of her, leaving her with a double gape – something i have never done before.
the odor was definitely there – a faint, musky, human smell. but it was certainly not like opening the door to a public restroom in mexico. no, while the odor was there, it was really a residual smell, more like the new-car smell – it isn't really something you can put your finger on, but it is real, and quite delightful.
i gazed down at my masterpiece, and admired the symmetrical lines and vibrant colors. the inside of her pussy was a sharp, intense pink color, like ripe grapefruit. the clit, hood and lips were a darker hue, although not much darker. the taint was a deep, full red color, kind of like watermelon, and her ass was a lighter brownish color, a little like lightly tanned leather. she had little hairs around her asshole, which didn't bother me at all. her ass cheeks fell away from the ass elegantly, leaving behind a visual feast that would destroy cities, stop a tornado in its tracks, obliterate a man's soul in an instant, neutralize a nuclear explosion. christians believe we were made in god's image, and that's true, but it is this image we're talking about. the face that launched a thousand ships? fuck that, it wasn't helen's face, it was exactly this view right here which launched a thousand ships – her kneeled-over, open-ass, open-vagina exposition to her lover.
looking down at the open ass gape, i wondered what is wrong with me. i have wondered this many times: why do i enjoy sticking parts of my body into women's asses? it's bizarre behavior really, if you think about it logically. is it the taboo of it? is it the forbidden fruit syndrome? i don't think so: homosexuality is a forbidden fruit, but that fruit is insipid to me. i have walked in to some of those lady boy bars at nep, and much to my surprise, i get absolutely nothing from them. i mean, not even a little bit of a twinge. but that is a totally forbidden fruit and a major-league taboo, so i don't think that is it. but there i was, kneeling, looking down at a gaping vagina and a gaping asshole, and for whatever reason, the asshole held more interest to me.
i tried to look inside (i can't believe i am typing this!), just to see what was inside there. i felt like a monkey at an ant hill, peering in very gingerly wondering if the hole would provide any providence. i bobbed my head this way and that, trying to angle her ass so the light would shine directly in. but the hole was slowly closing, as her sphincter began to tighten up. shit (no pun intended), i have to get a good look before the door closes! i managed to get her ass angled just right and caught a few glimpses of the promised land beyond.
i felt like brigham young, the founder of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (an off-shoot of mormonism), as he reached the peak of the rockies and looked down at the bountiful paradise beneath him. and like him, i said to myself, “i shall make this my home. and herein i shall live, i shall work, and i shall bugger all and sundry that comes my way. and if we need to establish a social and religious way for me to bugger 10 women at a time, so be it.”
i asked her if she does toot, and she took a moment to explain the geometrical challenges of ass sex. there is an incompatibility between the diameter of her hole and the general girth of most falang's pokers. so given the size of little kumbu and the minimal aperture of her asshole, she said it ain't gonna happen. ok, ok, i get it: square peg, round hole kind of thing. but she was happy to let me finger her ass, since she not only douched but enemaed herself in the shower. how considerate was that? it also explained the new car smell i was talking about earlier.
and so we went back to the girl-part playing. this must have continued for a further 5 minutes before the trojan emerged, and fully sheathed, little kumbu went to work. cue the bonanza theme song.
it was funny, but the camera was my audience, and so this time i felt like i was actually performing. it was just so weird doing it for the sake of visual effect – i felt myself doing things that you see in porno movies, which i always thought were so damned cheesy, but i can now see why it is done. you know, certain body positions, like leaning back excessively, or entering from the side (to give the camera a good view). we tried a variety of positions, some of which worked, some of which did not.
somewhere in the middle of this series of positions, we went into missionary, but she did not do the traditional missionary. instead, she forced her legs up over her head and put them almost behind her head, flat against the bed. she was so flexible, she was almost flat as a pancake. i'm amazed i did not notice this the last time i was with her, but it was great!
so anyway, i was getting close, so of course i wanted to end in doggie, so i motioned her to move to the foot of the bed (closer to the camera), and we did it on this little cushioned dresser thingy that sits at the foot of the bed (it's like a little bench with a cushion which you're supposed to sit on as you dress, i suppose).
reaching the peak of the crescendo, climax approaches, kumbu groans excessively like the porn star that he is not, collapses onto her in a fit of relief and regret, whimpering like the feeble man that he finds himself. she reaches around and starts caressing his arms and shoulders, soothing him, praising him for his valiant battling, consoling him for his ultimate defeat. she whispers his name, tells him how well he did, how she was grateful. hush, hush, little kumbu, you are safe now. we maintain our position for a few moments, and then the clean-up operation begins.
so we showered individually, and when i got out i was damned tired. i had not slept properly in weeks, and working all day and playing all night is just damned crazy. it starts to affect your perception of reality, and to warp your grasp on normality. i needed sleep, this much i knew, and given that i had just ejaculated, my fatigue was compounded.
but girlie wanted to talk.
look, before you judge me, i like pillow talk, i really do. i think you learn so much about these girls after the act – things that you would never hear at any other time. this is because they have just performed their act, and they can now be honest with you. they can now tell you about things unrelated to the sex industry, or things that you may not want to know before hand. so usually, i look forward to these moments, i savor them, i cherish them. but not tonight – i was beat, and i needed the pillow more than the pillow talk.
but girlie, sweet as she is, had a lot to say for herself. she was very eager to explain various aspects of her life. how she tells her mama/papa that she works at a bar, and she is a waitress, but that she never goes with customers. and this is one reason why a girl with such a smoking hot body does not strip and dance. she told me about her frustrations with her english skills, and how she has two teach-yourself packages at home, which don't seem to work. she told me about her childhood, and how she was told by everyone that she would not amount to anything in life except a sex object, and she was determined to bust that mold. through the haze of fatigue, i vaguely remember smiling at the irony of that statement. there were many, many such fascinating bits of information pouring from the sweet heart's mouth, but kumbu being the selfish, fatigued individual that he is, could not muster the responses that her tender candor deserved.
she eventually noticed that my eyes were unfocused, and she began her slow movement towards the door. in all, after the showers, it took an hour and a half for her to leave. and when she did, she gave me a sweet, barely-open-mouthed kiss, followed by a tight hug that lasted a full 20 seconds, and then she turned around and walked out the door.
kumbu, spent, nevertheless regretted not giving her the feedback and validation that she seemed to be craving. i wish i could have done that for her, but you can't fight biology. i walked back to the bed, collapsed and did not even turn off the camera.
for the inevitable requests for the video, i would ask you not to waste your time.
Kumar Arun
09-23-10, 12:01
We always dream about a 10/10 gorgeous while shaking ourself.
So despite all actions I had, wanted more of meat. No Thai or Russians. SY had suggested a escort website(http://www.Vipmodel5.com/), (user I'd. VIP, pwd. VIP), called up, spoke to Anna, choose (as per her guidance) a Colombian hooker by the name Laura. She described her and that matched with my requirements to the dot.
Laura came exactly the time Anna committed and I was on cloud nine when I answered the door bell. Standing tall, nearly 6', lovely popping chest, and long never ending legs, great looking face but saw some cunning smile (or signal) on her lips.
I should have listened to my 6th sense and paid taxi fare and sent her back. But little AK took over the decision making and let her come in. As per the T&C paid her dues upfront.
As expected the drama started now. She asked me to take Bath, for which I said I just finished the same. Then I asked her to do the same. She went inside bathroom and I donno what she did inside. Absolutely mechanical so far. She came out undressed and laid down on bed and asked me to come over. Grrrrrr. So very reluctantly started playing with her boobies, and found out they are man made fakes. No kissing no playfulness total dead star fish.
She did some kind of CBJ if one can call that, and started cow girl action. After a while we moved onto mishy and I did finish in extra quick time.
Completed one more objective of meeting a 10/10 while visiting LOS and learned my lessons hard.
Looks can be very deceptive and money can not always buy a good sex.
10K BHT for next to nothing sex was a shocker and the perception about escort services proved correct. One of the low-lights of LOS.
Corne Bakker
09-23-10, 12:24
Last year I enjoyed a really good session at Star of Light. I used to visit this place late at night, but that morning I was feeling particularly frisky and wanted to wet my whistle. So I took the BTS to Sala Daeng and walked towards P(h)at pong. It was 9:30 in the morning and I had read on the forum that SOL opened early. I had to get used to the directions, because normally I only enter this part of town during the night. And now it was completely different. No touts to pull you in, no girls to ask you annoying questions. Just some stray dogs wandering about. Everything was closed and a serene peace was all around me. I almost felt guilty of disturbing this scenery with my need to get some spicy action. But here I was, a guy with needs and a place that was open and ready to serve me.
I walked in, and there was no-one except one girl that was just changing into her working costume. She asked me if I wanted a drink. And I told her that I would like to have some company. Just as my pants dropped to the floor, three more girls walked in and caught us in the act. The first girl had my member deep in her mouth and a lot of saliva was dripping down my legs to the floor. One girl asked to join us and I agreed. So she dropped on her knees and both girls took turns sucking on my c*ck.
I wanted to taste some juices, too. So I ordered a third girl to come and take her skirt off. She happily served me with a nice view of her sweet p*ssy and presented it to me by standing on the sofa. I licked her thick outer lips and parted her lips with my tongue. I sucked her flesh into my mouth and rapidly flicked her clit with my tongue. Meanwhile a fourth girl joined to give me head and now three girls were taking turns sucking the life out of me. I was in heaven. With so much excitement around me I did not last for more than 30 minutes. I ordered them not to use any hands. Only their mouth was allowed. I knew that if they would use their hands it would be over much quicker. So everytime their hands approached my member, I would wield them off. I switched girls and had another juicy set up lips to lick. Finally I erupted with a big moan and a mouthful of semen. One big swallow followed by some mouthwater was all it took for the girl to get her first shot of white goo.
I paid up and thanked the girls for the wonderful experience. Another fine day in sin city was about to begin.
D.Wow, nice story. You must be a writer?
I'm thinking of visiting Bangkok for the first time in November this year. Do you have any tips for me?
Thanks CB
Indeed. 5-5-5 is the mantra of the day, and to be honest, I don't blame the girls. We falang are a pretty mixed bunch. Some of us are cool characters, but others - not so much. Consider that drunken slob I saw in Rainbow 1, reported on a few days ago. He was a fucking mess. If you were a woman, and were being offered more money from a cleaner, more respectful, well-dressed gentleman from Japan, which would you choose?
Maybe you should sweet-talk a yippon-hunter to go with you some night and listen to the post-coitus stories about the crazy shit some of those guys want.
Loved the story about the waitress, are you in town now?
Bamboo Pete
09-23-10, 14:53
It costs 16,500 Baht - holy shit! Too rich for my blood! I'd rather save 15K, and spend it a half dozen girls, that I choose!Are the two girls included in this price? If not , you would be at about 20K (plus 2 x ST 1500-2000). And if yes , can you choose from Kitten Club line-up on the web side?
Care to share those venues? Hope you don't refer nana and cowboy. Because those are higher priced and lower quality than sutthisan in my opinion.
In your dreams. There are probably more girls in say just Rawhide, Long Gun and Baccara than in all the Sutthisan gogos combined. And the 19 or 20 year olds in Sutthisan are exactly as 19 or 20 year old as the ones in Nana/Cowboy.
In say Nana I will usually get away with 2300 or 2400 for a shorttime, everything included. In Sutthisan it would be say 1500 (bar), 160 (big beer, cheapest choice), 20 (ice), 20 (cold towel), 100 (fucking fruits you were too worn down to refuse), 35 taxi to Pluem Dee which is 280 (because the 150 Suparb is really a bit depressing, and the 300 rip-off place is worse). You can't really skip the beer because there are mostly only 3 or 5 girls dancing at once, they don't get naked for ages, and the others are skulking in dark corners, so you have to stake out a place for a while. And in the meantime you have to fend off about 12 girls dragged up to you by the papasan who wants them to sit with you, and often as not they'll refuse to do more than hold hands. Especially the cute ones. And as soon as they're sitting with you, you're clocking up another 100++ every 40 minutes or so, and good luck figuring out all the scribbled bits of paper that make up your bill.
It's a interesting side trip, but not a clear win over Nana/Cowboy on any count, however much I'd like it to be.
As I fidgeted, I'm not sure what came over me, but my video camera was sitting on the desk, and so I just hit the record button and came back to the bed. Hmm, is Kumbu about to be naughty?I remember doing a similar thing a year ago, when I took a secret video of a particularly hot young lady. I had to turn the camera on just before she came out of the shower, so there a few minutes of fooling around before the main action, which did film remarkably well :). But then at the end she insisted I had the first shower, so I had to leave the camera running...
I staggered off to the shower barely able to walk, and as soon as the door was closed she transformed instantly from a hot slinky sexy female to a girl slobbing down on the bed to watch TV, as if the last half hour hadn't happened... Hard to explain, but I was kind of hoping she would lie on the bed staring at the ceiling with a dreamy smile on her face, gently caressing her breasts... But at least she didn't pick up her phone to chat to her boyfriend!
my 3rd trip to thailand and bangkok in one week.
going to be in bkk for 6 days. made a mistake and booked grand millenium for the duration via wotif (the mystery deal). quite costly at this time of year, apparently high season. i should have instead stayed at different hotels every 2 days just to check them out plus there is an additional cost of 500baht per day for internet connection for grand millenium as per forum info. walking distance to soi cowboy may not be such a big plus point. hopefully can get some kind of upgrade, thought reading the forum seems to indicate this is no longer possible. i have been spoiled by the size of the pattaya hotels and prefer a 1 bedroom these days. let's the wg sleep while i read, watch, surf, think, eat etc in another room but in bkk it is too costly to do that. tried to cancel this and wanted to try the brand new shama (opening 1st of october and pretty cheap opening rates for the size on wotif) but no luck.
i have done the tourist bit in bkk before and on my second trip i found the daytime hours quite boring. this time based on the forum i plan to visit tulip, annie's, mango and snow white. well trodden path in the forum but not by me. comments like, "we don't go to tulip's for the looks but the service" are not particularly encouraging but i have time to kill in the daylight hours so will of course try and form my own opinion.
is there any other recommendations of places to visit for daytime action? i don't like soapies (tried once before and did not think much of it, plus only 1 shot) so natatree is not on the list and tried eden before but not my thing ( and star of light, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) etc also of no interest to me) and have been in bier garten. any place else?
at night i plan to check out climax but from reading the forums, go-go's close around 1am these days. i do not remember this was the case previously. the initial plan was to visit climax circa 1am and if not finding anything there just head to the go-go's. being a short stay, it is imperative/waste if i do not get a girl everyday. however this plan does not seem possible as climax get's crowded around 1am according to the forum and these days the go-go's close at 1am. is this correct?
i will be in bkk from the 2nd to the 6th of october. if anyone is also visiting during that time, don't mind hooking up in soi cowbay for a beer. pm me.
any comments and suggestions are welcome.
Going to be in BKK for 6 days. Made a mistake and booked Grand Millenium for the duration via Wotif (the mystery deal).
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.You can make the most of it though.
The managers at the Grand Millennium are real wheeler dealers, and they love to shake & bake to make guests happy. You are staying for a lot of nights, push for the best deal you can but make sure that you go into the upgrade thing with a full clip. Remember, it's a business class hotel, try to LOOK like you belong there. (TIT, of course it's important.)
OK:
#1. Join the M&C Loyalty Club (http://www.mncloyalty.com/) and give the front desk staff your number as soon as you begin the check-in process.
#2. Ask for a full free upgrade (including Internet) to Grand Deluxe because you are staying so many nights.
#3. If they turn you down for the free upgrade, go for the 300. 500 Baht upgrade with free Internet.
#4. Try to get a breakfast discount. The breakfast isn't really all that special (except for Sunday brunch,) but it's a good place to open for a bargaining session.
#5. If, in the end, you just end up taking the standard Deluxe: After going up to your room try to find something to complain about, stained carpets, badly treated furniture, etc. This can also lead to freebies or some sort of upgrade deal. It's a big hotel, there are lots of rooms, the manager will consider the fact that you might complain to the corporate offices (a real no-no for week stay guests. It IS a 5 star rated hotel after all.)
Sure, I know it all sounds like a game, and yes it is, but you may actually end up enjoying your time there. Location, location, location. In Bangkok, anything that makes things easier to get to someplace and back is a big bonus. And, anything that makes it easier for you to get chicks back to your place is an even bigger bonus. Grand Millennium is just a 3 minute walk from Soi Cowboy, at 1 am this is a HUGE bonus.
Alright. Fuck it, the beds are terrific and the chicks all love the GM like crazy. So don't beat yourself up on your stay, just make the most of it..
Also, for a good time, try oilies. Plenty of reports on the boards. There are lots of them in the immediate GM area.
Good luck, and have fun with it.
Traveler1234
09-23-10, 21:00
My 3rd trip to Thailand and Bangkok in one week.
prefer a 1 bedroom these days.
Grande Centrepoint has 1 bedroom units, slightly more than B$3000 includes bkft and free internet; Ratchadamri, in a soi btw Grand Hyatt and Four Seasons. Very GFE.
Is there any other recommendations of places to visit for daytime action?
If daytime starts at noon, do try akane, mango, tulips, annies. Most are 2+ pops, some also offer outcall so you can arrange room service for lunchtime -- pay slight premium over incall. Email them now and tell them what you're looking for....Mango and Annies are good with email or pm replies. I've already made my arrangements!
I will be in BKK from the 2nd to the 6th of October. if anyone is also visiting during that time, don't mind hooking up in Soi Cowbay for a beer. PM me.
If you want to hook up, stop at Livingstone's Lodge - usually someone from ISG around, pm ahead of time.
Man that site is full of porn pics lifted from the internet. Sorry you didnt notice. Maybe you should browse some more porn sites? :-)
We always dream about a 10/10 gorgeous while shaking ourself.
So despite all actions I had, wanted more of meat. No Thai or Russians. SY had suggested a escort website(http://www.Vipmodel5.com/), (user I'd. VIP, pwd. VIP), called up, spoke to Anna, choose (as per her guidance) a Colombian hooker by the name Laura. She described her and that matched with my requirements to the dot.
Laura came exactly the time Anna committed and I was on cloud nine when I answered the door bell. Standing tall, nearly 6', lovely popping chest, and long never ending legs, great looking face but saw some cunning smile (or signal) on her lips.
I should have listened to my 6th sense and paid taxi fare and sent her back. But little AK took over the decision making and let her come in. As per the T&C paid her dues upfront.
As expected the drama started now. She asked me to take Bath, for which I said I just finished the same. Then I asked her to do the same. She went inside bathroom and I donno what she did inside. Absolutely mechanical so far. She came out undressed and laid down on bed and asked me to come over. Grrrrrr. So very reluctantly started playing with her boobies, and found out they are man made fakes. No kissing no playfulness total dead star fish.
She did some kind of CBJ if one can call that, and started cow girl action. After a while we moved onto mishy and I did finish in extra quick time.
Completed one more objective of meeting a 10/10 while visiting LOS and learned my lessons hard.
Looks can be very deceptive and money can not always buy a good sex.
10K BHT for next to nothing sex was a shocker and the perception about escort services proved correct. One of the low-lights of LOS.
Kumbu my Bro,
you wrote some great stories before but this one is absolutely brilliant.
Keep it up
When we got into the room, we made out for 10 minutes or so, and then we talked for another 10 minutes.
We Whities got to face the facts that we are not the most desirable customers anymore for a lot of Thai WG. Those are Thai-Chinese, Singgies, Honkies, Yippons, Korean etc.
I sometimes go out with an 35 year old American buddy of Korean ancestry. That guy is as American as you can be. Hard-core Texan-republican, accent included. When I am with him, all the girls will swarm to him because he apparently looks somewhat similar to a Korean boy-band singer (without the gay makup and hairdo) and will barely acknowledge me.
Still there is plenty enough of fun for all us non-asians.
Indeed. 5-5-5 is the mantra of the day, and to be honest, I don't blame the girls. We falang are a pretty mixed bunch. Some of us are cool characters, but others - not so much. Consider that drunken slob I saw in Rainbow 1, reported on a few days ago. He was a fucking mess. If you were a woman, and were being offered more money from a cleaner, more respectful, well-dressed gentleman from Japan, which would you choose?
I report on another case of bad behavior in my next-to-next report, a guy in Sheeba's at Soi Cowboy. An embarrassment to all men, IMHO. And if you are white and in your 40s, you should be angry as hell at the kind of behavior I will describe to you.
Gogos close around 2, whereas Climax or Nana Liquid or Bossy will not get busy until around 1. So I suggest you invert your schedule. Try the Gogos first and if you dont find anything hit Climax or the other places.
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previously. The initial plan was to visit Climax circa 1am and if not finding anything there just head to the Go-go's. Being a short stay, it is imperative/waste if I do not get a girl everyday. However this plan does not seem possible as Climax get's crowded around 1am according to the forum and these days the go-go's close at 1am. Is this correct?
I will be in BKK from the 2nd to the 6th of October. if anyone is also visiting during that time, don't mind hooking up in Soi Cowbay for a beer. PM me.
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]
on monday i called an old fling from pattaya to come join me for a few days. on the recommendation of some of you isg members, i decided i needed some more structured, predictable sex before i leave. this girl is fantastic in bed, as far as i am concerned. actually, she does not provide top quality services, but she has two things that make her totally unique in my book. first, she has the smokingest hot body of any gogo dancer i have ever seen. period. i mean, she is built absolutely perfectly for me. the only down side to her body is that her legs are slightly slenderer than i prefer (although still very nice), but everything else on her more than makes up for it.
she has large breasts, far larger than her slender frame deserves. her waist is small and tight, almost hard – it's quite remarkable. but more importantly, that tiny little waist opens up into a wide set of hips that harbor the grandest of asses – without a doubt, the best ass i have ever seen. i shit you not guys, it is an ass for ass lovers – built to perfection. it is large, but not flabby. it is round, on wide hips, and the crack extends all the way up to the small of her back (none of this half-crack crap you get with many asian women). it is the perfect size, shape and texture. it hides a beautiful asshole, something that i find hard justifying - how does an asshole ever qualify to be called 'beautiful'? but really, this one is superbly made - great shape, great crinkling, great coloring, and great taste and odor. yum. i mean, yuk. no, i mean yum.
the second thing she has which i find irresistible, quite fortunately, is an ass fetish. she loves having her ass licked out, and she enjoys all manner of anal probing and stimulation. she particularly enjoys daty combined with rimming, which is a tough order to perform night in and night out, but one that ass-fetished kumbu provides like the obedient servant that he is. i discovered her in may, and went with her several times in pattaya, and we clicked quite well. so time for old kumbu to sample the ass flavor again.
i made the mistake of telling her that i had just arrived, and i wanted to see her. i would pay her bf for two days, pay her taxi to bkk both ways, and pay her lt fee for two days if she came up and stayed with me. when i got back from work on monday afternoon, there she was, wearing a long dress hiding every one of her attributes. coy, i like that.
i got her into the bedroom and we just started to make out like long lost lovers. she had just got done with a long 2 hour taxi ride, and so she was not the freshest smelling, but to my surprise, her odor was delectable. i couldn't stop inhaling her smell, it was just fantastic – an aphrodisiac of the stratospheric kind.
we eventually did shower, and then the fun really began. i went down for daty, during which i reached my tongue around for some rimming. all was going according to plan at this point. she eventually came, much like i had experienced with her in may on many occasions. she scampered to the bathroom afterwards to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and shower, and then returned feeling all sensitive. so we chatted for 20 minutes and then she went down on me.
her bbbj was good, although not spectacular. it was wet, very, very wet, and slow and measured. she had no problem sucking and licking my balls, but overall her skills were...acceptable. i pulled back before the orgasm, popped on a trojan and in it went like a well-oiled sword. and i know she had not used any lube, which made me feel pretty good about myself.
so we had sex in a variety of positions, and eventually ended with her on her side, me entering from behind, urgently grasping those luscious ass cheeks as i orgasmed.
afterwards, we showered together, then cuddled and fell asleep.
the next day i went to work, and when i returned at 5pm, i told her i had to meet a friend for a drink. i scampered off to see spider at soi cowboy, and when i returned at 10pm, she was wailing and crying uncontrollably. huh? what? where am i?
but first, a report on our field trip to soi cowboy. no bf on this occasion, but just some observations from a guys' night out running through some of the gogo bars.
Gogos close around 2, whereas Climax or Nana Liquid or Bossy will not get busy until around 1. So I suggest you invert your schedule. Try the Gogos first and if you dont find anything hit Climax or the other places.I couldn't agree more. Gogo bars start early, even as early as 6pm (although I've never been that early). They then close around 2am or so, with the occasional cop crack down which closes them early. But barring that, you have a good 8 hours to find something. Climax gets busy around 1am, and climaxes (heh, see what I did there?) around 2:30am (maybe earlier). If you are still empty handed, I would recommend walking out of Climax onto the street, avoiding all offers for taxis or tuk-tuks, and get into a metered taxi - one that is just driving past on soi 11. Tell the driver to take you to Spicey. Alternatively, at that hour, you could walk down to Nana Liquid and see what there is, as it gets cracking around 2am. Spend an hour or two scouring either place, and if you are still empty handed, grab a taxi to Bossy. Bossy peaks around 4:30am-5am, so really, if you are empty handed after searching from 6pm to 5am, then perhaps you should just chalk it up to fate and call it quits. But I just can't imagine that happening. If you are sufficiently horny and sufficiently patient, you will easily get laid every night (or more often, if you so desire) while in BKK.
Uncle Volodya
09-24-10, 07:19
- how does an asshole ever qualify to be called 'beautiful'? But really, this one is superbly made - great shape, great crinkling, great coloring, and great taste and odor.
I love it, man. "Great Crinkling" -- that is just too funny. You truly have what Hemingway called "afición" for the cornhole.
I hope you have fun and I hope that advice we all gave you works for you (thought that crying sounds a bit troubling).
Stay horny my friend...
Uncle V
FreebieFan
09-24-10, 08:48
You can make the most of it though.
The managers at the Grand Millennium are real wheeler dealers, and they love to shake & bake to make guests happy. You are staying for a lot of nights, push for the best deal you can but make sure that you go into the upgrade thing with a full clip. Remember, it's a business class hotel, try to LOOK like you belong there. (TIT, of course it's important.)
OK:
#1. Join the M&C Loyalty Club (http://www.mncloyalty.com/) and give the front desk staff your number as soon as you begin the check-in process.
#2. Ask for a full free upgrade (including Internet) to Grand Deluxe because you are staying so many nights.
#3. If they turn you down for the free upgrade, go for the 300. 500 Baht upgrade with free Internet.
#4. Try to get a breakfast discount. The breakfast isn't really all that special (except for Sunday brunch,) but it's a good place to open for a bargaining session.
#5. If, in the end, you just end up taking the standard Deluxe: After going up to your room try to find something to complain about, stained carpets, badly treated furniture, etc. This can also lead to freebies or some sort of upgrade deal. It's a big hotel, there are lots of rooms, the manager will consider the fact that you might complain to the corporate offices (a real no-no for week stay guests. It IS a 5 star rated hotel after all.)
Sure, I know it all sounds like a game, and yes it is, but you may actually end up enjoying your time there. Location, location, location. In Bangkok, anything that makes things easier to get to someplace and back is a big bonus. And, anything that makes it easier for you to get chicks back to your place is an even bigger bonus. Grand Millennium is just a 3 minute walk from Soi Cowboy, at 1 am this is a HUGE bonus.
Alright. Fuck it, the beds are terrific and the chicks all love the GM like crazy. So don't beat yourself up on your stay, just make the most of it..
Also, for a good time, try oilies. Plenty of reports on the boards. There are lots of them in the immediate GM area.
Good luck, and have fun with it.A similar plan which worked great for me in HK recently was to type up my "report" which I was ready to post on Trip Advisor.
I played the blackmail game with the Front Office Manager who I had met on a previous stay.
Trip Advisor can really ruin a hotels rep and this report was factual, with photos of the hairs on bedsheets (in a clean room), chipped glass, missing coffee sachets etc. Anyways in return for not posting, got a club floor room for the next 3 days. Sometimes players win LOL.
Member #4169
09-24-10, 09:46
wow, nice story. you must be a writer?
i'm thinking of visiting bangkok for the first time in november this year. do you have any tips for me?
thanks cbhi corne,
i am not a writer. actually far from it. just a simple guy that like to pay back to this forum by contributing some information about my adventures in the land of smiles. the best tip i could give you is: rtff.
but a more general set of tips would be:
determine for yourself what kind a needs you have. do you want to experience scantily clad girls gyrating on your lap and begging you for a ladydrink with the possible option for banging your brains out in either a short time or long time adventure? then visit nep or soi cowboy.
nep can be found on soi 4. take the skytrain (bts) to nana and get off on the even side. you should see the landmark hotel on your left hand side. pass this and walk into the first side street on your left. side streets of large roads are called soi. large roads are called thanon. so thanon sukhumvit, soi 4 would mean the fourth side street of the main road sukhumvit. after about 100 meters you will see a lot of different lights and open bars on your left hand side. this is nana entertainment plaza. enter it and you will see that it consist of three levels of pure erotic pleasure. on the ground level are open bars and some go go's. take the escalator (or the stairs in the back) to the first floor and you will see a lot of bars.
be careful not to step inside the wrong bar, since there are some ladyboy bars as well (casanova, cascade, obsession and temptations). ladyboys are also called katoey. check out the forum for how to spot a ladyboy (taller, nicer breasts, smaller hips, bigger hands, bigger shoulders, adams apple, stronger jawlines, deeper voice, more aggressive). unless you want to do something with lb's, of course.
there are quite a number of regular go go bars in nep that have nice looking girls and some fascinating shows. rainbow iv and angelwitch were/are good locations to visit. but be sure not to come across as a first timer. because first timers are shark bait! you will be hassled into buying a lot of ladydrinks and the girls will be all over you(r money). in the go go bars, girls will be dancing on the stages and at certain points during the evening special shows will be performed. this can be anything from lesbian shows, p*ssy acrobatics (anything that can be imagined will be stuffed into and pulled out of the tunnel most of us came out of) to body painting. go go bars work in dance shifts. girls that are not dancing are either walking around and try to entertain/hassle customers. or are just staying together and chitchat or eat food. if you do not want to talk to a girl or give her a ladydrink, just say no (or mai auw in thai). if they insist, then just repeat it again more firmly, but always keep on smiling. never appear to be upset or rude, because thai people do not like to lose face. and getting upset means to lose face. if you cannot help it and cannot control yourself anymore. then just pay up your bill and leave. but always check that you did not pay more than needed and check your change.
if you do find someone you like. then look at her directly and see if she smiles at you too. if no smile comes from the recipient side, then don't bother. the possibility of a starfish adventure are high then. you can ask the girl directly to sit with you or you can ask a waitress or the mamasan to call her over. just remember her number and refer to that when calling her over. once you have the girl next to you (or all over you.), you can buy her a ladydrink and chit chat a little bit. during the chit chat you will discover if her communication skills are good enough for you or not. most thai bargirls have limited english skills. a typical conversation would go like:
bg: sawasdee ka, me like you.
you: i like you, too. where are you from?
bg: isaan (a province in the north east of thailand)
you: what is your name?
bg: lek, poo, kung or apple (fill in your own short name)
you: how old are you?
bg: me 21 year. you?
you:. (fill in anything you want, as they do not care about your age anyway).
after this most girls are out of english skills and the extra words they know are short time 2000 baht, and long time 3000 baht (or higher depending on how money eager they are). always negotiate and start with a lesser amount than what they ask. bargaining is part of the whole p4p. ask her for the services she offers for this amount and how many times you are allowed to come. sometimes they refer to smoking as giving a bj. so if being asked if you like smoking, then point at your member and say yes! when the negotiation has ended, pay the bill + the bar fine and leave with the girl to the place you want to go. you can either go back to your hotel (if it is girl friendly) or go to a short time hotel. the bg should know where these are.
if you happen to get caught by a gold digger, then don't be surprised if she wants to eat first, go hang out with some of her friends in expensive places and get some clothing or other body ornaments. of course you are the one that has to pay for all of this. be a man and smile and tell her that you will have none of that and that you already have many girlfriends (giks) that you need to support like that. if she wants anything she has to earn it first with exceptional services. short time hotels are normally around 300 baht per hour.
you can also check out soi cowboy (side street of soi 23 on thanon sukhumvit. take the bts to asoke and walk towards the grand millenium hotel. the entry should be on your right side. you can use the mrt station to cross the road.) in soi cowboy you can visit a lot of bars that have different kinds of activities. if interested in dancers without any underwear than visit baccara. if interested in a bj on the spot, than go to afterskool. if interested in good shows then go to suzi wong.
if you are into bj's then visit either [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (soi 8, thanon sukhumvit near bts nana) and get your rocks of for 700 baht, or visit star or light in patpong. or go to the kangaroo bar in patpong. some go go bars in soi cowboy also offer bj's but that can be a touch and go.
if the whole go go scene is not your thing, then you can check out the freelancers in a couple of places. beergarden on sukhumvit soi 7, gulliver's on sukhumvit soi 5. just check out the site from wickedtraveler for a quick overview of the different things to do.
another pleasure to indulge into are massages/soapies/oilies. check out the forum for which places to go to. again, which place to go to depends upon your desires. if you want a real masssage, then go to shops that have a sign that says traditional massage. anything with the term body massage in it, is likely to offer more than just a massage. i personally like to go to annie's as i like to order two girls to give me a full service checkup with multiple pops and lots of daty. but i also enjoy going to aviva. there are so many massage places that it is simply too hard to give a short overview of these. just rtff.
if you are into trio's or more with girls that provide three hole services, then you can also check out eden. eden is located on sukhumvit soi 7/1 close to bts nana. you can pick two or more girls and get your pornstar fantasy fulfilled there. just remember that there is a line that separates the a+ girls from the none a+ girls. if you are only interested in three hole adventures with one girl. then check out tulip massage or mango massage. these massage shops are the best nowadays into providing this kind of service.
another tip i can give you is to hook up with fellow mongers and have a good time together. i will be in bkk beginning of november. so maybe i will see you there.
happy mongering,
d
Thanks, Barko, Traveler1234, Spider916 and Kumbu for your thoughts.
I have just joined the M&C loyalty card and will try for the upgrades when I get there.
I remember doing a similar thing a year ago, when I took a secret video of a particularly hot young lady.
Back in the mid-1980 in AC, tried out my new VHS video cam.
1. My white pimply ass glowed in the low light, not a pretty sight.
2. Petite girl was lost under the big white American. I was 6'3", 220 lbs and in pretty good shape. All you could see of the girl was her hands and feet, she was that small.
3. Cured my porn movie making ambitions.
Slim
I forgot to ask this, have searched the forum and looked at the separate Suvarbnabhumi airport thread but there is no info on the new rail link from the airport.
I am landing late and on my previous 2 visits I just got a cab from the airport but I understand there is now a rail link.
Researching the route (http://www.bangkokairporttrain.com/time-table-route.html) the last stop on the rail link is the Phaya Thai station on the BTS (30 mins to get there and trains run about every 20 mins I think) (http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suvarnabhumi_Airport#Ground_transportation) . From there it is just a few stops to Asok and Grand Millenium.
Is this the fastest way or is cabbing still the best option?
To those who are light on luggage the airport rail link to Phaya Thai has apparently a promotional fare of just 15baht till the end of 2010.
Thanks
Great summary for newbies, Dhardesh. Appreciated.
I forgot to ask this, have searched the forum and looked at the separate Suvarbnabhumi airport thread but there is no info on the new rail link from the airport.
I am landing late and on my previous 2 visits I just got a cab from the airport but I understand there is now a rail link.
Researching the route (http://www.bangkokairporttrain.com/time-table-route.html) the last stop on the rail link is the Phaya Thai station on the BTS (30 mins to get there and trains run about every 20 mins I think) (http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suvarnabhumi_Airport#Ground_transportation) . From there it is just a few stops to Asok and Grand Millenium.
Is this the fastest way or is cabbing still the best option?
To those who are light on luggage the airport rail link to Phaya Thai has apparently a promotional fare of just 15baht till the end of 2010.
Thanks
The Rail link sounds great, but It will end up as a red herring, reason being Is from the Airport you either have to get the Express or City trains, the Express will stop at Makkasan station, problem here Is that If you got luggage you got to walk 300m or so to the MRT or catch a Taxi, If your arriving late then It will be easier to jump In a metered taxi at the Airport, I think the only time the train will make sense Is If your travelling light at rush hour.
Hi Corne,
Be careful not to step inside the wrong bar, since there are some ladyboy bars as well (Casanova, Cascade, Obsession and Temptations). Ladyboys are also called Katoey.
i
D
Cascade Ladyboy bar ?
I've always gone to Cascade and always I barfined girls ........
NicFrenchy
09-25-10, 00:43
Cascade Ladyboy bar ?
I've always gone to Cascade and always I barfined girls ........
or at least you thought so.... yes it is a LB Bar. 100%
The bed was in the JW Mariott :-)..a wise investment of 3500+ for the room, instead of staying in a dumpBotak, how did you get a room in the JW for 3500+? Rates seem to be more like 6000+.
Redfield10
09-25-10, 01:52
You are probably joking, but they weren't girls!
It's 100% ladyboy bar!
Cascade Ladyboy bar ?
I've always gone to Cascade and always I barfined girls ........
if you arrive very late at night and/or have lots of luggage, a taxi would be much quicker (less traffic congestion) and convenient. if you have very little luggage and you arrive during the daytime, the airport to city line is a good cheap option. if you're staying in the nana area, the airport to playa thai then connect with bts seems to be the best route.
here's a recent "reader's" comment about the airport to city line that was posted on the bangkok post. according to the writer, it's easier to use if you're going to the airport and less convenient for arrivals.
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i took the city line last friday and found it to be cheap (30-odd baht skytrain + 15 baht city line) and relatively timely (30 minutes from saphan taksin to phya thai and another 40 minutes to the airport). given that i left in the middle of an almighty storm, a taxi could have taken over an hour at 350 baht+, and so it was the weather that swayed my decision.
as said already, the city line trains are not built for luggage and i'd be interested to hear if the express trains do indeed have different set up with more luggage space. i also had only one light case, so did not experience the trolley issue, but that is certainly of concern for future trips when i could well be carrying a larger full case + additional laptop bag.
the only pain for me was on arrival at the airport, where there are only a few elevators connecting the floors. so on the lower floor where the train arrives the elevators quickly filled up, leaving a large group jostling in front of the doors to be sure of a place on the next trip. so i took the escalators... great idea. these long escalators slowly take you to the next floor, where you then have to double-back on yourself to the start of the next escalator and so on up 4 floors. of course, this is thailand and people stand all over the escalators (keep to the right!!!) or have a trolley, making it impossible to speed this up. this tactic of slowing your exit down works ok in paragon, but is frustrating in an airport - so if you are in a hurry, also factor an additional 5 minutes to get from the lower floor to departures!!
on arriving back in bangkok, now with wife and more baggage, the thought of going on the train, then bts and then taxi v just getting in a taxi was too much. sad, but i don't think i'll ever use it on arrival.
The Rail link sounds great, but It will end up as a red herring,
A red herring or a white elephant?
NicFrenchy
09-25-10, 03:21
Wanna Meet Thai Students? read this board where a lot of girls are offering fun times... Of course, they have to be 18+
it's in thai, but Google Chrome Translates the whole page for you ;)
Have fun
http://sidelinehot.com/index.php/board,7.0.html
Wanna Meet Thai Students? read this board where a lot of girls are offering fun times... Of course, they have to be 18+
it's in thai, but Google Chrome Translates the whole page for you ;)
Have fun
http://sidelinehot.com/index.php/board,7.0.html
The unknown level of English should likely make trying to put something together very interesting.
NicFrenchy
09-25-10, 03:38
The unknown level of English should likely make trying to put something together very interesting.
Well, unless you're looking for a girlfriend then there should not be any problems...
Fuck her, Pay her and Flee.... that's it. No English needed and my thai should be sufficient for this short type of encounters.
Cascade Ladyboy bar ?
I've always gone to Cascade and always I barfined girls ........Did they insist on switching off the lights before getting down to business?
And did they all say that they like you so much that they will let you do their ass?
Well, unless you're looking for a girlfriend then there should not be any problems...
Fuck her, Pay her and Flee.... that's it. No English needed and my thai should be sufficient for this short type of encounters.
English needed to set up the meet I imagine. Your Thai is probably not representative. :)
Hi
I was in Bangkok recently and saw that they were selling dildos in many places around nana
I thought it was banned in Thailand, or the law has changed ?
BL
Well, unless you're looking for a girlfriend then there should not be any problems...
Fuck her, Pay her and Flee.... that's it. No English needed and my thai should be sufficient for this short type of encounters.
Love it!
When can we expect a full report on your success?
A red herring or a white elephant?
Same same but different!
Hey fellows,
So I'm pretty new to P4P (but been in Asia nearly a decade; I know, what a waste). A few months back in Thailand was my first time. I want to tell that story for newbies' edification and then ask questions to prepare my next trip.
So, a few months back I'm in BKK, being shown around by a friend who lives there. Now this friend pretends he never does P4P, and he never did in front of me, but somehow he knows the go-go bars, supposedly because he "takes friends there". Anyways.
So he explains to me (then a complete newbie) that girls in go-go bars can say yes or no to you. There is a selection process. You have to be nice to them, buy them drinks, talk, and then they decide if they like you and want to go with you or not. He tells me they have the upper hand since many clients want them, they have the choice
This strikes me as odd to say the least, but remember this is my friend, I trust him, and he lives in BKK. So I figure, he must know. So I try this way of "seducing the hooker and getting her approval". But I suck at it. I'm pretty good at getting freebies but I feel totally uninspired at pretending to have a normal conversation with a hooker who can't speak English, in a loud bar, with other costumers and girls watching, etc etc. I just don't see the point. And I hate to buy multiple drinks for the girls – I NEVER buy drinks to normal girls in bars, so why am I doing this for a SW?
So this leads to a lot of awkward, frustrating moments and aborted attempts, with the girl or me losing interest after a while. Whatever chemistry exists through body language and eye contact is killed each time by lame attempt at "where are you from" conversations. Obviously I'm also not in my comfort zone since this is all new to me.
Believe it or not, this lasts for 2 NIGHTS, with me (a late twenties, fit, not bad looking dude who is not bad with women in real life) NOT BEING ABLE TO SCORE IN BKK GO-GO BARS. In hindsight, hilarious.
In the middle of the third night, I get really annoyed. I think, "OK this is ridiculous. This isn't supposed to be that hard". I finally ditch my friend and go back, alone, to a bar (one of the Rainbows at Nana upstairs) where I had friended a waitress.
I sit down, waive her, and tell her, picking the cutest girl in the line up without even bothering to make eye contact, "I want number 29. No drinks, no talk, no bullshit. I don't have time right now. Just tell her to get ready and we go. "
In retrospect I was probably too aggressive/edgy (a no-no in Thailand) but I was annoyed at that point. Anyway, no problem. The waitress nods that she understands. The girl comes down the line up, gets ready backstage, comes to pick me up at my table 5 mins later, and off we go.
I don't even think I bought a drink while I was waiting.
So the lesson here for complete newbies, is that doing it short and quick is possible. I adopted the same technique the following few nights. Sit, get ONE drink for myself, pick a girl, and bar fine her immediately. Almost no conversation in the venue.
I'm not saying this is the best way, but it worked for me last time.
I don't care for anal or any particularly perverse activity, so of course that's a caveat. I don't need to agree on anything special beforehand.
All my lays were ST as I was sleeping at a friend's place. I used the Nana ST hotel at 300 baths a session (I had no clue where it was, the girls take you there though, just pretend you've been there 1, 000 times before, it worked for me).
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OK. Now I spent a long time RTFFing, as I'm back to BKK in a week and preparing Questions for experienced members:
1. Is actually talking to the girls and buying them a few drinks in the venue advisable? I saw a few members I respect [Barko among them – dude, I've read all your posts, I'm a fan ] saying that was a good idea; but they didn't explain why. Is this about good will? Agreeing on anal? Getting them drunk? Having a good time? Doing a chemistry check?
2. I've also seen some say that you can book a girl ST and if you are fun and your hotel is nice etc then she'll end up staying LT. Is that advisable/doable? How much do you pay the girl then, end of night? ST+tip? Or LT rate?
3. What if you want the girl to stay with you during the day time (instead of leaving in the morning)? Is this advisable? Any suggestions on rates? (I'm talking Nana go-go girls).
4. I've seen suggested to tip the mamasan/papasan and/or waitress to buy goodwill. I believe this is mostly for MPs. Does it apply to go-gos as well? And how do you tip? Openly or discreetly (palm of the hand thing)?
Any feedback welcome.
You are probably joking, but they weren't girls!
It's 100% ladyboy bar!
Sorry, I was wrong, place was Carousel and not Cascade.
Wanna Meet Thai Students? read this board where a lot of girls are offering fun times... Of course, they have to be 18+
it's in thai, but Google Chrome Translates the whole page for you ;)
Have fun
http://sidelinehot.com/index.php/board,7.0.html
Thanks for the link. I am going to try it out. I have always wondered how to meet Thai girls online other than Thai Love Links which I never had success with. Anyone else have links to meet Thai girls online in Bangkok?
spider and i met up at dollhouse in search of the illusive #8. spider had mentioned her to me a couple of nights ago, and we looked for her then, but she had already been snapped up. i think stickman's mention of her number made her girl #1 in all of soi cowboy, so good luck finding this mythical beauty. personally, i don't believe in following such recommendations, as beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder. and i find that my sense of beauty is decidedly more voluptuous than many of the mongers that frequent bkk. nonetheless, we decided to crash the soi earlier than we usually do, arriving at 8pm. to my surprise, they had a happy hour at dollhouse: 69b draft beers, 69b singha and tiger (but not heineken). and some other drinks too were priced at 69b, and the happy hour lasts until 9:30, i believe.
i sat downstairs for two shifts, looking for the fabled #8 or someone else decent. finding neither, i ascended the legally-dubious staircase to the balcony lounge. i sat at a table with a thick-legged girl jiggling her meager offerings above me. i inspected her legs for a moment, finding no real attraction. her calves were enmeated (i just made that word up) enough for me, but they were shaped all wrong. the ankle was almost as thick as the calf, giving a kind of cylindrical shape to her legs – not appealing at all. her thighs were heavier than a thai girl can justify, belying her preference for kfc and mcnitrates than khaw pad or anything else traditional. but her ass was commensurate to her thighs, so at least she was proportionately thick. i then looked down at her feet, and all i could see were toes poking out of cheap strap-shoes like a star of david in all directions. ah yes, the stereotypical farm girl dancing tables in a seedy bangkok bar.
spider arrived, saving me from my solitary misery, and instead we engaged in dual misery. we sat there like grumpy old me bitching about the lack of talent in this joint. my toothy, gluteally-magnified girl from the period debacle a couple of nights earlier (read about it here: [post]1070861[/post) comes out and squeamishly giggles at me. she really is a delight to look at and to talk to, i wish i had been able to tap her, but you take the punches life sends your way.
she is giggling and squirming uncomfortably in front of me, very aware of the awkwardness this situation presents. she is butt nekkid, and she climbs onto our table and starts to display her wears. my eyes were fixated squarely on her pussy...where's the blood girlfriend? i got screwed (and not in the nice way) the other night because of your event...could i see some lingering evidence of that please? and she was terribly aware of where my eyes were and why they were there. so i think for show, she jumps off the table and runs into the bathroom, feigning period problems. she returned 60 seconds later all better. there, see? evidence of a period. ok, faces saved all around, move along people, there is nothing to see here.
spider and i complained the whole time. we saw a girl who was pretty cute: nice face, nice ass, nice legs, nice small waist, all good, until she turned around. ooooh, she had a terrible, obvious boob job. why do girls do this to themselves? if you are going to insert globs of chemicals into your body, you'd better be sure the outcome is top notch. although perhaps some guys like this obviously-enhanced look? that was the closest to bar-finable that we found in dollhouse that night, sadly.
next, we went to shark, which was predictably full. we squeezed into a small spot in the front row and began our inexorable scrutiny of the mass of yellow-clad neon-drenched lovelies. we sat through two shifts, and the two girls we both agreed were super hot were #90 and #2. the former had long, dark, straight hair with a face suggestive of american indian nobility. i mean, her features were not quite typical thai – she must have been a mongrel of some sort. i say that as a proud mongrel myself, so no one take offense please. she was tall, statuesque, and seemed very elegant. she looked our way a couple of times, and i was getting a vibe, but spider was convinced that was delusions of grandeur on my part.
#2 was similarly tall and elegant, with slightly more slender legs, and brown frilly hair cascading down her face. she had large, large eyes which reminded me of bambi (the deer). but sadly for us, she was not interested in humanity at this point. she was standing in the corner of the stage alone, with a 3-foot buffer zone space all around her. all the other girls were crammed together into a mass of femininity, jostling for elbow room, being nudged all the way to the edge of the stage, and here was this girl, who had somehow eked out some space for herself which the other girls were unwilling to violate. so given her total disinterest, neither of us were willing to spring for a ld.
one other note of interest: we spied the most interesting ass in the history of the thai people. i do believe this ass is unique in all thai genetics. if thailand had one, this ass would be enshrined in the equivalent of the smithsonian institute. i mean, it was remarkable.
her number is 8, if i recall correctly (not the #8 from dollhouse). she was perhaps 5'2” tall, with a slender upper body, slightly stout (although not terribly so) legs, a nondescript face, and this monster on her backside that just defied the boundaries of human assdom. now fella's, i like a nice, round ass, you all know that, right? i've waxed poetic many a times about the pleasure of some ass flesh, so there is no doubt as to my lifetime platinum membership in the quadruple a: ass adoration association of america. and so when a large ass comes along, i am the *first* to stand up and applaud. bravo! encore!
but this ass was just too much – it offended the sensibilities, really. spider, how do i describe it? well, imagine her upper body– straight and narrow, tapering for the waist, and then opening up into a wide set of hips. so imagine the width of the hips, as if you are looking at the hips face-on, at their widest angle. imagine pulling out a measuring tape and measuring the width of the hips at their widest point. remember that width, ok? now imagine a 3d rotation through space, where you turn the girl 90 degrees to get her profile. now you take the tape measure and measure the width of her profile around the ass at its widest point, and you find that this width (of her profile around the ass) easily exceeded the width of her hips in the frontal angle. that's not natural, right?
furthermore, the cheeks themselves were monumentally round and meaty. i really mean monumentally because they were like a monument built for ass worshippers. the glutes extended outwards from the small of her back at an angle that denied all principles of physics. i imagined dropping a marble down her back, falling down the length of her spine, and as it takes the curve of the ass, it would shoot off exactly parallel to the ground. so flat and expansive was the top of the ass that you could set up a whole tea set on the ass, like a table-top, sit down and have 4pm tea with cucumber sandwiches off the top of that ass. oh jolly good, these crumpets, wot? this kind of angle is not supposed to occur in nature! so the ass then takes its parabolic curve back to the upper leg, and upon meeting the upper leg, there was a perfect ass-cheek crease. the result was that the ass was like two packets of hard gelatin compressed and compacted onto her back, just sticking out there and mocking the rest of the world, defying everyone to provide a physical explanation for its existence. meaty is the word that comes to mind.
spider and i sat there chuckling for a few minutes and shaking our heads at the hilarity of the ass. we were convinced that this was an ass-implant job gone terribly wrong. or right, depending on your perspective. so, for the perverted ass lover out there, make a beeline for shark.
next we peeked into midnite, recoiling instantly and backtracking asap, and were then accosted by a double-facial-stud girl trying to convince us to enter cowboy 2. we passed, and went into sheeba. never been in there before. there were 5-6 girls on stage, fully nude. the lighting was not terribly good – far too much red, and so you could not see a damned thing on the girls. stretch marks were invisible, scars were nothing, and all the curves were made to look good. there was one girl who had a cute face, large titties and nice legs dancing near me giving me the come-hither smile. sadly, i never went thither. spider was working his attention on a skinny, glasses-clad girl who was looking the other way the whole time, thereby showing us what would turn out to be her good side. so we patiently sipped our beers, watching for the shift-change.
before that happened, i saw this guy sitting at the stage. he had close cropped hair, perhaps in his mid-40s, and looked like he was hopped up on some kind of stimulant – he had sunken, dark eyes, and that twitchy way about him, reminding me of harry rednapp. he calls over the girl who had been smiling at me and says “hello”, she reciprocates. he says “i'll buy you a drink if you let me lick your pussy.” she says “aaaah?” so he stands up so he can be heard better, he raises his voice so the whole bar can hear better, and repeats himself, this time with hand gestures, so the deaf-mutes can follow along. after all, this important message must not be missed by anyone.
...*i* (points to self)...will buy *you* (points to her tits)... a *drink* (points to his beer)...if *you* (points to her tits) let *me* (points to self's mouth)...*lick* (flits his tongue out and all over his mouth, leaving a visible droplet of drool in the middle of his lower lip)....your *puuuussssssyyyyyyyy* (pointing you know where).
her expression does not change one bit. she looks at him as if to say “really? that's the best you got?” and then she turns to her friend and says something, and never looks at him again. this is the kind of bone-headed, dumb-ass, ethnically degrading behavior that white guys in their 40s should be appalled at. that girl who was treated like a piece of meaningless shit by this guy will now look at the next white guy in his 40s as a crude, drunken, offensive butt sponge. you may not like the fact that she generalizes this behavior to the entire group, but that's human nature. that's what we do – fear of the american black man; all arabs are terrorists; all indians stink; all korean men beat their women; all chinese have stale bo; all germans like leather and children. etc. this twitchy twat-alot guy just created the stereotype of 'all falang men are crude, cheap, smelly and high on yaabaa.' how many japanese guys do you see behaving like that? it's just basic respect, that's all.
at this point, spider's skinny girl turns around to reveal a rather leathery, hideous face. spider physically recoils, and i hear a sad “oh” come from his mouth.
shift change!!!
but oh my god the girls that came on stage were downright grotesque. i don't mean to be mean, but they really had no business being naked. ever. spider said something to the effect of 'the nerve of these people, putting these girls on stage in front of us.” it was downright shameful.
so we bailed and called it a night. i went back to my lovely in the hotel room, only to be put through the ringer with thai gf dramatics - next report.
1. Is actually talking to the girls and buying them a few drinks in the venue advisable? I saw a few members I respect [Barko among them – dude, I've read all your posts, I'm a fan ] saying that was a good idea; but they didn't explain why. Is this about good will? Agreeing on anal? Getting them drunk? Having a good time? Doing a chemistry check?
2. I've also seen some say that you can book a girl ST and if you are fun and your hotel is nice etc then she'll end up staying LT. Is that advisable/doable? How much do you pay the girl then, end of night? ST+tip? Or LT rate?
3. What if you want the girl to stay with you during the day time (instead of leaving in the morning)? Is this advisable? Any suggestions on rates? (I'm talking Nana go-go girls).
4. I've seen suggested to tip the mamasan/papasan and/or waitress to buy goodwill. I believe this is mostly for MPs. Does it apply to go-gos as well? And how do you tip? Openly or discreetly (palm of the hand thing)?
Any feedback welcome.Chill Out, I couldn't help smile as I read your post as it somehow reminds me of myself when I first started out. I'm by no means as experienced a monger as others on the forum, and I certainly don't post much. But for whatever reason I thought I would give you my 5 cents on your questions:
1. As you've noticed, the language barrier doesn't exactly allow for great conversation. In the western sense at least. But have her sit with you for awhile anyway, not for you to "seduce" her, but the other way around. Mostly, but not always, it's an indicator of things to come. I'm not necessarily talking about hardcore touching/making out here, but it gives you an idea anyway. Also, if personality matters to you (it does to me. I prefer girls who are not too hardened by the scene), it gives you a chance to get a feel for who she is. And yes, to see if there's chemistry.
2. I usually pay 1500 for short time and 2000-2500 for long time in BKK. If she wants to stay the night without you requesting it. Hmm, well if you like her, give her a little extra in the morning. But there are no fixed rules.
3. The few times I've had a girl stay with me in the daytime, all I paid was food, massage or whatever we did outside the hotel. Again, there are no fixed rules. One tip though. Get as many phone no's as possible (but do it discreetly if you're in a gogo, otherwise the girl can get in serious trouble with the management!) It can save you many a barfine and provide you with excellent entertainment in the afternoons.
4. Money is king, but I don't think I ever tipped the mama-san. Perhaps I bought her a drink once or twice but that's it. It depends what your objective is I guess. I noticed that ISG's own excellent writer and humanist (I mean that in the very best way!) Kumbu mentioned tipping the papa-san for better seats when there supposedly were none to be had. And got them because of the tip. So if she/he is doing you a favor then tip or buy her a drink. But calling girl #85 to come sit with you isn't really a favor in my book. It's her job.
Lastly, a few things that have made my own Thailand experiences so much more enjoyable: be nice, be fun, smile, give compliments, don't be a sucker (it's perfectly ok to refuse someone a drink, just as well as it's perfectly ok for them to ask you), dress nicely, be clean, shave, learn a few frases in Thai and use them, then learn more and use those too. I've encountered a lot of opinions on whether or not it is advisable to speak Thai in mongering situations, and some seem to think that it will make the girls avoid you since you "know too much", I. E. You're not a sucker. Well, maybe those girls were best avoided anyway. All I can say is that my own feeble attempts to speak the language have many times put me in a better position, either because people thought I lived in Thailand (and my Thai is VERY basic) and sort of knew my way around things, or simply because they thought that it was a nice thing on my part to try and learn a little bit of their language.
Enjoy your trip! I myself will be back in LOS this Friday. I can't wait!
Hey fellows,
OK. Now I spent a long time RTFFing, as I'm back to BKK in a week and preparing Questions for experienced members:
1. Is actually talking to the girls and buying them a few drinks in the venue advisable? I saw a few members I respect [Barko among them – dude, I've read all your posts, I'm a fan ] saying that was a good idea; but they didn't explain why. Is this about good will? Agreeing on anal? Getting them drunk? Having a good time? Doing a chemistry check?
I think you need to find the middle ground between your friends advice and your point and shoot method. I think it is a good idea to buy the girl a LD. It gives you time to see if there is any chemistry, and to see what sort of attitude she has, it also makes the girl feel a little more kindly towards you, and hopefully ensuring a better performance back at the hotel. You could also offer to buy her some food from a street vendor, or stop at 7-11 to get something to drink, on the way back to the hotel. Treat the girls with respect and a little kindness and generally you will reap the rewards, don't go overboard but 50 baht for some food or a beer can go a long way. Look at this way, if you are too nice (a la your friends advice), the girls will think you are a pushover and try to get over on you, perhaps by asking an outrageous price, etc. If you just point and shoot w/o saying a word, the girl will probably not be kindly predisposed to you, not that she won't go with you, but don't expect anything special from her. Put yourself in her situation, no one likes being treated like a piece of meat, even if they are WG's.
2. I've also seen some say that you can book a girl ST and if you are fun and your hotel is nice etc then she'll end up staying LT. Is that advisable/doable? How much do you pay the girl then, end of night? ST+tip? Or LT rate?
If you think you might want to convert a ST to a LT with a girl, then try to do this before you leave the bar. Find out what her rates for both are and let her know that if you like her you may want her to stay LT instead of ST. You may need to get the Mamasan involved if her Engrish is not all that good, and then tipping the Mama, a little, is not a bad thing. If you are not sure what you are going to do then at least find out what she charges for both ST and LT, because if she ends up staying LT, then she will expect her LT rate. In the event you do go LT you may also want to talk about what time she will want to leave in the morning.
3. What if you want the girl to stay with you during the day time (instead of leaving in the morning)? Is this advisable? Any suggestions on rates? (I'm talking Nana go-go girls).
This is a tough question, it varies from girl to girl. I have had some ladies ready to leave quite early (they had to get back to their Thai BF's, I guess) , after a morning session, and some ladies stay quite late into the afternoon until they had to get ready to go to work and want nothing more than what we had agreed upon. Some girls may want extra to stay with you in the afternoon and some may not. As long as I have had my morning session, I really don't care when they leave. I will say though that I kind of like the girls who stay late as I generally get an early morning session, and/or a late morning, early afternoon session. If you want a girl to stay with you and not go to work that night, then you are going to have to pay her barfine and depending on how long you want her to stay then either ST or LT.
4. I've seen suggested to tip the mamasan/papasan and/or waitress to buy goodwill. I believe this is mostly for MPs. Does it apply to go-gos as well? And how do you tip? Openly or discreetly (palm of the hand thing)?
If you are a regular in the bar or if the Mamasan helps you out then I think tipping them a little bit is ok. Otherwise, I don't generally tip them.
Any feedback welcome.
Disclaimer: These answers are only my humble opinions and what works for me might not work for others. Treat the ladies with respect and kindness and it will pay dividends, IMHO.
Disclaimer: These answers are only my humble opinions and what works for me might not work for others. Treat the ladies with respect and kindness and it will pay dividends, IMHO.Damn Booey, you were quicker than me. Funny how similar our answers/opinions are. Like-minded individuals I guess.
dear dhardesh,
your very informative post below is exactly what i have been looking for in here. for a first timer to thailand/bkk, this is the most informative post about the bkk scene i have read in here. thank you so much. looks like we would be in bkk at the same time as i arrive at the end of october. would love to meet with you or any other regular/expert in the bkk/thai scene to go have some fun together.
thanks again for the very informative post and keep'em coming brother.
cheers.
hi corne,
i am not a writer. actually far from it. just a simple guy that like to pay back to this forum by contributing some information about my adventures in the land of smiles. the best tip i could give you is: rtff.
but a more general set of tips would be:
determine for yourself what kind a needs you have. do you want to experience scantily clad girls gyrating on your lap and begging you for a ladydrink with the possible option for banging your brains out in either a short time or long time adventure? then visit nep or soi cowboy.
nep can be found on soi 4. take the skytrain (bts) to nana and get off on the even side. you should see the landmark hotel on your left hand side. pass this and walk into the first side street on your left. side streets of large roads are called soi. large roads are called thanon. so thanon sukhumvit, soi 4 would mean the fourth side street of the main road sukhumvit. after about 100 meters you will see a lot of different lights and open bars on your left hand side. this is nana entertainment plaza. enter it and you will see that it consist of three levels of pure erotic pleasure. on the ground level are open bars and some go go's. take the escalator (or the stairs in the back) to the first floor and you will see a lot of bars.
be careful not to step inside the wrong bar, since there are some ladyboy bars as well (casanova, cascade, obsession and temptations). ladyboys are also called katoey. check out the forum for how to spot a ladyboy (taller, nicer breasts, smaller hips, bigger hands, bigger shoulders, adams apple, stronger jawlines, deeper voice, more aggressive). unless you want to do something with lb's, of course.
there are quite a number of regular go go bars in nep that have nice looking girls and some fascinating shows. rainbow iv and angelwitch were/are good locations to visit. but be sure not to come across as a first timer. because first timers are shark bait! you will be hassled into buying a lot of ladydrinks and the girls will be all over you(r money). in the go go bars, girls will be dancing on the stages and at certain points during the evening special shows will be performed. this can be anything from lesbian shows, p*ssy acrobatics (anything that can be imagined will be stuffed into and pulled out of the tunnel most of us came out of) to body painting. go go bars work in dance shifts. girls that are not dancing are either walking around and try to entertain/hassle customers. or are just staying together and chitchat or eat food. if you do not want to talk to a girl or give her a ladydrink, just say no (or mai auw in thai). if they insist, then just repeat it again more firmly, but always keep on smiling. never appear to be upset or rude, because thai people do not like to lose face. and getting upset means to lose face. if you cannot help it and cannot control yourself anymore. then just pay up your bill and leave. but always check that you did not pay more than needed and check your change.
if you do find someone you like. then look at her directly and see if she smiles at you too. if no smile comes from the recipient side, then don't bother. the possibility of a starfish adventure are high then. you can ask the girl directly to sit with you or you can ask a waitress or the mamasan to call her over. just remember her number and refer to that when calling her over. once you have the girl next to you (or all over you.), you can buy her a ladydrink and chit chat a little bit. during the chit chat you will discover if her communication skills are good enough for you or not. most thai bargirls have limited english skills. a typical conversation would go like:
bg: sawasdee ka, me like you.
you: i like you, too. where are you from?
bg: isaan (a province in the north east of thailand)
you: what is your name?
bg: lek, poo, kung or apple (fill in your own short name)
you: how old are you?
bg: me 21 year. you?
you:. (fill in anything you want, as they do not care about your age anyway).
after this most girls are out of english skills and the extra words they know are short time 2000 baht, and long time 3000 baht (or higher depending on how money eager they are). always negotiate and start with a lesser amount than what they ask. bargaining is part of the whole p4p. ask her for the services she offers for this amount and how many times you are allowed to come. sometimes they refer to smoking as giving a bj. so if being asked if you like smoking, then point at your member and say yes! when the negotiation has ended, pay the bill + the bar fine and leave with the girl to the place you want to go. you can either go back to your hotel (if it is girl friendly) or go to a short time hotel. the bg should know where these are.
if you happen to get caught by a gold digger, then don't be surprised if she wants to eat first, go hang out with some of her friends in expensive places and get some clothing or other body ornaments. of course you are the one that has to pay for all of this. be a man and smile and tell her that you will have none of that and that you already have many girlfriends (giks) that you need to support like that. if she wants anything she has to earn it first with exceptional services. short time hotels are normally around 300 baht per hour.
you can also check out soi cowboy (side street of soi 23 on thanon sukhumvit. take the bts to asoke and walk towards the grand millenium hotel. the entry should be on your right side. you can use the mrt station to cross the road.) in soi cowboy you can visit a lot of bars that have different kinds of activities. if interested in dancers without any underwear than visit baccara. if interested in a bj on the spot, than go to afterskool. if interested in good shows then go to suzi wong.
if you are into bj's then visit either [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s (soi 8, thanon sukhumvit near bts nana) and get your rocks of for 700 baht, or visit star or light in patpong. or go to the kangaroo bar in patpong. some go go bars in soi cowboy also offer bj's but that can be a touch and go.
if the whole go go scene is not your thing, then you can check out the freelancers in a couple of places. beergarden on sukhumvit soi 7, gulliver's on sukhumvit soi 5. just check out the site from wickedtraveler for a quick overview of the different things to do.
another pleasure to indulge into are massages/soapies/oilies. check out the forum for which places to go to. again, which place to go to depends upon your desires. if you want a real masssage, then go to shops that have a sign that says traditional massage. anything with the term body massage in it, is likely to offer more than just a massage. i personally like to go to annie's as i like to order two girls to give me a full service checkup with multiple pops and lots of daty. but i also enjoy going to aviva. there are so many massage places that it is simply too hard to give a short overview of these. just rtff.
if you are into trio's or more with girls that provide three hole services, then you can also check out eden. eden is located on sukhumvit soi 7/1 close to bts nana. you can pick two or more girls and get your pornstar fantasy fulfilled there. just remember that there is a line that separates the a+ girls from the none a+ girls. if you are only interested in three hole adventures with one girl. then check out tulip massage or mango massage. these massage shops are the best nowadays into providing this kind of service.
another tip i can give you is to hook up with fellow mongers and have a good time together. i will be in bkk beginning of november. so maybe i will see you there.
happy mongering,
d
How many Japanese guys do you see behaving like that? It's just basic respect, that's all.
Japanese men are well liked because they outspend all others by a mile. They are very polite in public (there are times they can't hold their alcohol and are embarrasing), but in the bedroom they are different. They cum fast, barely penetrate the the girls and tip big. It's no wonder why working girls love them.
If you think that some obscene white guy in a bar will ruin your reputation, think again. Your reputation as a "cheap" white guy has been well established long ago, and that's pretty much the only thing that matters. If you want to change that than start paying top dollar for all short times, never negotiate, and start tipping big. This is what Japanese do and they are everywhere in Nana and Cowboy these days!
Japanese men are well liked because they outspend all others by a mile. They are very polite in public (there are times they can't hold their alcohol and are embarrasing), but in the bedroom they are different. They cum fast, barely penetrate the the girls and tip big. It's no wonder why working girls love them... If you want to change that than start paying top dollar for all short times, never negotiate, and start tipping big. This is what Japanese do and they are everywhere in Nana and Cowboy these days!I very much agree with the assessment about why Japanese guys are preferred. In fact, you scooped me on this point - I am preparing a post in which I make a slightly different argument, but much in the same vein. Nonetheless, I think this idea that it is 100% about money is wrong - nothing is absolute in this way (except maybe this last statement? :) ). I said so a week or so ago in which I made the point about 100% of the girls are in it for the money, but each girl is not in it 100% for the money. Here is a link to that post:
1070236
Well, if it is true that Japanese men tend to come faster (I have no idea if it is true or not), then it's not just the money. The girls will work way less than they would with a white guy. Japanese/Asian dicks also tend to be smaller, therefore less wear and tear for the girls even if the guy lasts long. And then they get paid more, so what's not to like?
I also imagine that due to their culture, Japanese guys are probably easier for the girls to control in the bedroom ie they will be less pushy etc. Which also makes it safer/easier for the girl.
Travel Spirit
09-26-10, 11:49
A thai man or an expat, who knows well the sex scene of Bangkok, wants to spend 100 euros on a short time quality ( especially in terms of beauty) fucking. The question is where will he go for mongering.
In other words what are the choices of the locals? Will they go to massage parlours (e.g. La Defence, La Belle), to go-go bars (e.g. Rainbow 1), to freelancer spots (e.g. Gullivers, Thermae), to afterhours nightclubs (e.g. Q-bar, Spicey), to one of the numerous karaoke clubs that can be seen in almost every block of the capital, to small member clubs?
Is there any hidden secret about finding the beauties?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me
Read the quotes, the motivation of everyone comes through.
Simone6969
09-26-10, 18:27
Wanna Meet Thai Students? read this board where a lot of girls are offering fun times... Of course, they have to be 18+
it's in thai, but Google Chrome Translates the whole page for you ;)
Have fun
http://sidelinehot.com/index.php/board,7.0.htmlI had a look but when you translate it the sentences are all back to front and the words have different meanings. Hopefully ill work it out soon!
I couldn't agree more. Gogo bars start early, even as early as 6pm (although I've never been that early). They then close around 2am or so, with the occasional cop crack down which closes them early. But barring that, you have a good 8 hours to find something. Climax gets busy around 1am, and climaxes (heh, see what I did there?) around 2:30am (maybe earlier). If you are still empty handed, I would recommend walking out of Climax onto the street, avoiding all offers for taxis or tuk-tuks, and get into a metered taxi - one that is just driving past on soi 11. Tell the driver to take you to Spicey. Alternatively, at that hour, you could walk down to Nana Liquid and see what there is, as it gets cracking around 2am. Spend an hour or two scouring either place, and if you are still empty handed, grab a taxi to Bossy. Bossy peaks around 4:30am-5am, so really, if you are empty handed after searching from 6pm to 5am, then perhaps you should just chalk it up to fate and call it quits. But I just can't imagine that happening. If you are sufficiently horny and sufficiently patient, you will easily get laid every night (or more often, if you so desire) while in BKK.
I wanted to check out the nightclubs as I have been to the go go's before, but it looks like with these timings, for some certainty, I would need to stick to the go-go's as the clubs can't be relied on and the go-go's will close before the clubs start picking up.
A thai man or an expat, who knows well the sex scene of Bangkok, wants to spend 100 euros on a short time quality ( especially in terms of beauty) fucking. The question is where will he go for mongering.
In other words what are the choices of the locals? Will they go to massage parlours (e.g. La Defence, La Belle), to go-go bars (e.g. Rainbow 1), to freelancer spots (e.g. Gullivers, Thermae), to afterhours nightclubs (e.g. Q-bar, Spicey), to one of the numerous karaoke clubs that can be seen in almost every block of the capital, to small member clubs?
Is there any hidden secret about finding the beauties?Sure. My secrets? That ain't gonna happen. :D
Seriously though, the boards here are full of pretty much everything you need to score the goodness. Beauty and performance are so subjective that it's near impossible to answer your question directly. A girl's looks are just a fraction of the equation for a great experience here.
My latest visits to the "Amsterdam Massage" soapie in Ratchada have yielded spectacular results, (but you do pay a heavy price for the privilege.) Not sure if your 100 Euro cap is going to get you the 9X9 stunner you are looking for there though, (Amsterdam "M" badge number sideliner = 4800-5600 Baht.)
PM me, let's yak a little.
Lover Boy #2
09-27-10, 06:23
A thai man or an expat, who knows well the sex scene of Bangkok, wants to spend 100 euros on a short time quality ( especially in terms of beauty) fucking. The question is where will he go for mongering.
In other words what are the choices of the locals? Will they go to massage parlours (e.g. La Defence, La Belle), to go-go bars (e.g. Rainbow 1), to freelancer spots (e.g. Gullivers, Thermae), to afterhours nightclubs (e.g. Q-bar, Spicey), to one of the numerous karaoke clubs that can be seen in almost every block of the capital, to small member clubs?
Is there any hidden secret about finding the beauties?
A Thai man who wants to fuck a living doll is going to go to a high end fish bowl soap establishment. He is going to want a bj with condom.....as his family is number 1 and he doesn't want to get exposed to anything possible. He will do a lot of talking with the worker.....maybe even asking marital advice.......If a Thai man wants to entertain friends or have fun, he is going to mess around with a karaoke.....probably pay a fortune....and in the end....not fuck anyone. Many years in Thailand.......work with Thais all day long.....it's a fact....Jack.
Kumar Arun
09-27-10, 14:05
Last night at LOS. Kind of tired of fucking. So wanted a relaxed last night. Decided to visit to CM2 (also SY was fishing someone there) again (known devil is better than unknown angel)
Picked up Leena (the Blondy fm 1st night, again known devil is better.)and for change switched a more jovial Zyna.
Names: Leena and Zyna
Club: CM2
Race: CIS
Age: 29 & 24
Face: 8 and 9 (zyna had a terrific smile)
Body: 8 and 7 both of them had lovely body and skin, no shades of extra fat anywhere
Boobs: (both) smallish very firm natural tits with brownish hard nipples, right size to eat and play)
Ass: Leena had a good one then Zyna and terrific one.
BBBJ: Leena. 8 (slow and sensual, she loves 2 BJ. She was on it for more than 15mins when I was playing with Zyna,) Zyna. 6 (she was doing CBJ while I was getting ready to enter Leena)
Fingering: Leena enjoyed it more but during this session Zyna was little shy(?)
DATY: Leena. 9 (Oh. She loves it so much. In fact she reached her climax once I guess, else as they say, she was a good actress.. I serviced her quite a bit), Zyna. Not much(different story next day when she was in room alone with me)
FS: Leena 9 (was very wet, she really enjoys it. Keep asking me to do it faster) Zyna 10. Was quite opposite. Wanted slow and in different positions
Pussy: Leena 8 (very clean, not too much skin there and sweet smell) Zyna. 9 even more neat, more tight
Attitude: Leena 8 (she was the one who always started proceedings) Zyna. 7 (again different story next day)
Damage: 6K+5K + food and drinks 0. 5
Overall: 8. More satisfying than 1st encounter. May be due to already established relationship.
This very casual relaxed session really made my trip even more memorable and can't wait to visit LOS again. (so working even harder so that I can make it faster)
Off topic, but does anyone know a way to send the 20 bucks to Jackson with real anonymity (aside from snail mail)? Using a virtual credit card number or something? I'm not satisfied with the current solution, since anyone googling the "charity" name that appears on your statements will be able to make the connection to the hobby.
Jackson, if I may suggest; I can't think of a more high-leverage activity for you than spending a few days making it REAL easy and REAL anonymous for people to pay you. I've been wanting to do this for a month. Imagine how many more people think the same.
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Hi Chill Out,
You already said it: Use a pre-paid/virtual credit card.
You can buy them at any Walmart.
I can't make it any more simple than that.
Thanks,
Jackson
Well, if it is true that Japanese men tend to come faster (I have no idea if it is true or not), then it's not just the money. The girls will work way less than they would with a white guy. Japanese/Asian dicks also tend to be smaller, therefore less wear and tear for the girls even if the guy lasts long. And then they get paid more, so what's not to like?
I also imagine that due to their culture, Japanese guys are probably easier for the girls to control in the bedroom ie they will be less pushy etc. Which also makes it safer/easier for the girl.
Don't know if this is true but there is a rumour that Thai working girls refer to Japanese customers as "3-3-3s". Apparently it stands for 3 inches- 3 minutes - 3,000baht.
Member #4169
09-27-10, 19:37
Don't know if this is true but there is a rumour that Thai working girls refer to Japanese customers as "3-3-3s". Apparently it stands for 3 inches- 3 minutes - 3,000baht.
I've heard that they refer to them as see, see, see (444): 4 centimeters, 4 minutes, 4k.
And laughing in Thai is 555 (5 is haa in Thai).
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Applesauce
09-27-10, 19:58
Don't know if this is true but there is a rumour that Thai working girls refer to Japanese customers as "3-3-3s". Apparently it stands for 3 inches- 3 minutes - 3,000baht.Do you really need to add racist stereotypes here? Let's talk about whites and blacks as well then.
There was a really good post here from months back where the poster had said that Japanese men really worship the female body. It's not just wham-bam sex for Japanese men, they appreciate the female body, have long foreplay, hit all the erogenous zones and make the woman feel like a princess. Like it's their honour to be in such presence. These men appreciate women and the sex they're about to have. Because of this, the working girls appreciate these men back. If you can choose which punters to go with, then why not choose ones who'll treat you right? And as guys we do the same. We would prefer picking a girl who wants to be with us because then the experience will be better.
What's the deal with ladies who "do not go with customer". A couple of nights ago, I got rejected by six ladies in a row telling me this, all in Soi Cowboy. Three in Spice Girls, two in Deja Vu, and one in Midnite. Why are they there? Don't know if this is engrish for "only go with japanese" or just "you are disgusting and I don't want to be with you" Most of them weren't shy about asking for tips though. The usual monger forum advice is to move on to the next one, there are a million other ladies literally in Bangkok, though it is a bit of a drag when your taste is extremely particular as mine is
Absolutely no problems whatsoever in Baccarat, Tilac, or Rainbow 4 or Rainbow 1 etc... Never heard any price higher than 2000 ST or 4000 LT quoted over many many ladies.
Just finished tonight bar fining not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, but 5 ladies tonight for long time including one Japanase lady (well four ladies, and one lady boy) who all met my specifications exactly although the Japanese lady and the lady boy bailed early so only short time for them (so only three ladies at the end)
Found out that Nana hotel has limit of 2 ladies in your room, if you want to bring more than two ladies into your room you have to go somewhere else like short time hotel in Nana Plaza.
Never let anybody convince you Bangkok is anything but the absolute best of the absolute best, if anybody tries to say otherwise run away quickly. I have been everywhere no other city is in the same league.
I sit down, waive her, and tell her, picking the cutest girl in the line up without even bothering to make eye contact, "I want number 29. No drinks, no talk, no bullshit. I don't have time right now. Just tell her to get ready and we go. "
In retrospect I was probably too aggressive/edgy (a no-no in Thailand) but I was annoyed at that point. Anyway, no problem. The waitress nods that she understands. The girl comes down the line up, gets ready backstage, comes to pick me up at my table 5 mins later, and off we go.
I don't even think I bought a drink while I was waiting.
So the lesson here for complete newbies, is that doing it short and quick is possible. I adopted the same technique the following few nights. Sit, get ONE drink for myself, pick a girl, and bar fine her immediately. Almost no conversation in the venue.Hi Chill out,
Thanks for the very interesting report. I was wondering how the "point and choose" method worked out. Did the BG's perform well or were they starfishes? Did they seem put off by your method or O. K. With it. Also how much was the ST fee to the BG?
Don't know if this is true but there is a rumour that Thai working girls refer to Japanese customers as "3-3-3s". Apparently it stands for 3 inches- 3 minutes - 3,000baht.I've always heard it as 555
What's the deal with ladies who "do not go with customer". A couple of nights ago, I got rejected by six ladies in a row telling me this, all in Soi Cowboy. Three in Spice Girls, two in Deja Vu, and one in Midnite. Why are they there? Don't know if this is engrish for "only go with japanese" or just "you are disgusting and I don't want to be with you" Most of them weren't shy about asking for tips though. The usual monger forum advice is to move on to the next one, there are a million other ladies literally in Bangkok, though it is a bit of a drag when your taste is extremely particular as mine isCoyotes are there to draw you in, ply you with more expensive drinks, and entertain you with the hopes you'll take one if the girls that go with customers. Coyotes are dressed differently than the girls that go with customers.Tilac, Shark! Bacarra, Rawhide, Long Gun, RB4 are some bars that haven't brought in coyotes.
What are good websites to meet thais?
Preferably free. And I know a long shot, I like them voluptuous.
Busty and plenty of booty.
Never been to Thailand.
What are good websites to meet thais?
Preferably free. And I know a long shot, I like them voluptuous.
Busty and plenty of booty.
Never been to Thailand.
DriedUp,
Your last line "Never been to Thailand" was completely unnecessary, given that you are looking for "busty and plenty of booty." Beautiful, yes. Busty with booty...well, unlikely! But you gave me a smile today.
Good luck! ~TTG
Member #4351
09-28-10, 02:11
Yes DriedUp, I think you should redirect your attention to the Sosua board.
Mealticket
09-28-10, 03:27
Japanese men, they appreciate the female body, have long foreplay, hit all the erogenous zones and make the woman feel like a princess.I'd like to keep reading but I'm do back on planet earth now.
Lover Boy #2
09-28-10, 04:40
Do you really need to add racist stereotypes here? Let's talk about whites and blacks as well then.
There was a really good post here from months back where the poster had said that Japanese men really worship the female body. It's not just wham-bam sex for Japanese men, they appreciate the female body, have long foreplay, hit all the erogenous zones and make the woman feel like a princess. Like it's their honour to be in such presence. These men appreciate women and the sex they're about to have. Because of this, the working girls appreciate these men back. If you can choose which punters to go with, then why not choose ones who'll treat you right? And as guys we do the same. We would prefer picking a girl who wants to be with us because then the experience will be better.
....have to agree with first paragraph.....
....have to completely disagree with second paragraph, although it could be true on an individual basis....but surely not stereotypical.....with the women deciding the stereotype. The bottom line is pricing and less general hassle with a Japanese "customa". If you were a Thai sex worker and you had a choice between a heavily muscled, very tall, tattoo'd guy with a 9" cock and thick (who was trying to get LT for 1,000thb)....and a small Japanese guy with little body hair, similar size to the girl and having a punk rock dyed hair cut (offering the 3,000thb she was asking for)....who would you choose?
Preferably free.
Busty and plenty of booty.
Oh....and thanks for the laugh!!
FreebieFan
09-28-10, 06:31
I sit down, waive her, and tell her, picking the cutest girl in the line up without even bothering to make eye contact, "I want number 29. No drinks, no talk, no bullshit. I don't have time right now. Just tell her to get ready and we go. "
In retrospect I was probably too aggressive/edgy (a no-no in Thailand) but I was annoyed at that point. Anyway, no problem. The waitress nods that she understands. The girl comes down the line up, gets ready backstage, comes to pick me up at my table 5 mins later, and off we go.
.I guess this method can be done. But my question would is "whats the point of behaving like this. "?
Part of the joy of Christmas (remember that happy event before parts of World forgot it was Christian and got all touchy-feely towards minorities. Who didn't reciprocate LOL) was anticipating the possible gifts.
Looking at the shape and packaging and imagining what it might contain.
Going to a gogo bar is like that for some of us. Its fun and anticipatory.
Just diving in throwing off the wrapping papar in great haste seems to be missing the point. Been going to BKK for 25 years plus but still get a frisson of excitment every time I land in BKK and walk down Sukh towards Cowboy or Nana.
You already said it: Use a pre-paid/virtual credit card.
You can buy them at any Walmart.
I can't make it any more simple than that.Except that I, like a good chunk of your audience, do not live in the US :-) I'm in China. There are not virtual cards here. And I don't trust any of the online providers, not knowing them. If I had a Jackson-approved online provider (only takes you a bit of research and setting up), I would use that. This could add several grands a month to your bottom line. Just a suggestion.
Thanks for the very interesting report. I was wondering how the "point and choose" method worked out. Did the BG's perform well or were they starfishes? Did they seem put off by your method or O. K. With it. Also how much was the ST fee to the BG?Tough question to answer because I'm a P4P beginner and I don't need anything special beside BBBJ and boom-boom, so my idea of "performance" might not be yours. But they all performed good. Only one insisted on CBJ, so I skipped the BJ. That could have been avoided by agreeing on the terms in the venue. That's probably what I'll do next time. I went a bit overboard by going 100% "point and choose". The middle ground is better as Booey pointed out, ie maybe buy her a quick drink, check for chemistry, agree on terms and go.
For the fee, I'm not sure I remember. I believe I paid 1500 to the girl and 600 barfine.
Juicyclamlover
09-28-10, 08:06
I've always heard it as 555I agree with Simian, I've heard that the Japanese and Korean customers are refered to as the 333s.
Japanese men really worship the female body. It's not just wham-bam sex for Japanese men, they appreciate the female body, have long foreplay, hit all the erogenous zones and make the woman feel like a princess. Like it's their honour to be in such presence. These men appreciate women and the sex they're about to have. Because of this, the working girls appreciate these men back. If you can choose which punters to go with, then why not choose ones who'll treat you right? And as guys we do the same. We would prefer picking a girl who wants to be with us because then the experience will be better.With due respect for my friends near and far from Japan:
OMG are shitting me? You should hear the way Japanese guys put the bar/massage girls down in the evenings over dinner & drinks. They are vulgar, viscous, loutish and petty, far more so than the bulk of farangs, Indians, Arabs, or Chinese ever are. I accept it because I sort of understand that this is part of the naughty boy way of blowing off steam. Just a guy thing.
On the other hand, Japanese guys, by & large, are good customers, pay what the chick asks for, are quiet, friendly, and have a tendency to frequent the same girl over and over again. To prefer them is is simply good business on the chick's part. However, they are NOT preferred as bed partners whatsoever, not at all.
Anyway, the "see-see-see" (4-4-4) joke has been floating around for over 20 years now, not even remotely funny, nor even pertinent any more, (if it ever was.)
Dreams1973
09-28-10, 10:34
Hi,
I'll be in Bangkok next November for my first time. I wil lbe there 4-5 days and I'd like to visti the city and of course enjoy with the beauty of the place. I don't know if book a cutie from an agency (which one is better?) and keep her maybe for 2 days when she can give a good service in the bed and as touring guide or choose on the place one girl from some bars. How do you advise me?
Thanks in advance
There was a really good post here from months back where the poster had said that Japanese men really worship the female body. It's not just wham-bam sex for Japanese men, they appreciate the female body, have long foreplay, hit all the erogenous zones and make the woman feel like a princess. Like it's their honour to be in such presence. These men appreciate women and the sex they're about to have. Because of this, the working girls appreciate these men back. If you can choose which punters to go with, then why not choose ones who'll treat you right? And as guys we do the same. We would prefer picking a girl who wants to be with us because then the experience will be better.
This may be the silliest comment I have read in ages! First talk to the girls about Japanese men and it all comes down to time and money - not much of the first and a lot of the second - or just observe how long women take when they go with Japanese customers. Generally it runs to less than 30 minutes and that is including showering and undressing - heck - even in Japanese pornos the men are small and don't last long. And as a more scientific data point - they did a study a few years ago that measured men's sexual appetite by nation and woman's sexual satisfation - and the Japanese male came close to dead last. "Make a woman feel like a Princess". Good grief. Only with gold with these girls.
Found out that Nana hotel has limit of 2 ladies in your room, if you want to bring more than two ladies into your room you have to go somewhere else like short time hotel in nana plaza.
Or a 100 baht to the security man. There is one legendary fellow who often stays at the Nana who brings in 4 girls twice a night. Not an eyebrow is raised but money passes hands.
Don't know if this is true but there is a rumour that Thai working girls refer to Japanese customers as "3-3-3s". Apparently it stands for 3 inches- 3 minutes - 3,000baht.
You guys have it all wrong.
It's 1-2-3. 1 inch - 2minutes - 3000 B. :D
And it's not a rumor according to some Tgs I know.
Stiffoak 571
09-28-10, 18:14
In my quest to go in every bar in Nana and Cowboy.
So Friday night step out of Tilac - so far so normal then think I will try Toy -
Get hauled in then girl with glasses grabs me by the dick and moves me to the end of the bar - 30 secs later her knickers are off and I am on display and she's giving me a good rub down
Then it got even weirder - I realise that in getting her drink she has sat on my lap and I am now inside!
Was strangely pleasant but worrying at the same time.
Has anyone else met the odd girl with glasses just wondered if she has form? - it is not the usual style of greeting!!
Question on logistics: what do you guys do for music? I like to have sex with some nice tracks playing and to fall asleep to the same afterwards. How do you do that when you might worry the girl will leave with your Laptop/Iphone/speakers?
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It is legit and recommended by legit sites eg PCmag, VentureBeat etc. See an article here:
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Unfortunately it is only for US citizens, so it doesn't help me, but it might help other people here.
nataree: fishbowl 2000 baht, 2 hours. sideline is 1 1/2 hours: 2100, 2300, 2500, 2600, for variable standards. (there are "[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-sett" girls hiding here too, but this board is not really about qualities or talents for a fuck of a lot of extra money, now is it?)
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i think that nataree is great, but that's just me.having barko's report in mind and after a somehow disappointig lt session with a girl form rainbow 4 of nep i decided to check nataree on a staurday evening. i had little difficulties to find it so it's just opposite the swiss-otel concorde. entering the room i almost couldn't believe my eyes. it was kind of stimulus satiation, so much eye candy. thanks to the guys from hong kong who invited me to their table and gave me a short briefing how things are handled there. after adjusting my eyes a little to these many beautiful girls i decided to ask the papasan for a little help and let him guide me around (of course he got some tip later).
he introduced me to many different girls. soon he found out i was into the young and slim department. the hong kong guys had told me earlier they expect me to take a dark skinned girld from the fishbowl because "that's what all the farangs do" (kind of "you are so stupid, these girls are already in their mid-twenties and dark skin is not attractive at all). but i chose a sideline girl for 2500 referred to me as "fresh from the bus and only eighteen for a few weeks. for my "stupid farang" standards this could be true since she was simply one of the cutiest most attarctive girls i've ever seen.
the moment she took my hand to bring me to the elevator i got a hard one. in the room i found out that her english was almost not existent. but her massage in the bath tub was very nice and after a little blow job on bed i was finally allowed to enter this precious little pussy. her performance in bed was only so so and somehow i didn't konw if the 90 minutes encounter with a sideline girld allows a second session so after i came we spend the rest of the time just cuddling and smooching. nevertheless i was happy.
returned the next evening (sunday) and this time the variety of girls was not as good as on saturday but still i could spot a lot of stunners. again the papasan guided me around and this time he treated me like an old buddy. i finally chose a young, very tall but - unusual for my taste - littel chubby girl. she was cheaper (2000) and maybe too little experienced. almost the whole 90 minutes she referred to my cock as "too big" (which is not true it's very avarage european standard). still it was a nice experience.
for the sheer quantity of breathtaking asian beauties i would definitely come back to nataree. so far i am still not sure what to expect to be included in such a 90 minutes session, two times? bbbj (which once i got)? cim? does it all depend on the girl and the kind of chemistry or have they some kind of company policy at nataree?
Evil Penivel
09-29-10, 01:02
You guys have it all wrong.
It's 1-2-3. 1 inch - 2minutes - 3000 B. :D
And it's not a rumor according to some Tgs I know.
Americans are known to the girls as 9-1-1s: nine inches, one hour, 1,000 baht.
Evil
Anyway, the "see-see-see" (4-4-4) joke has been floating around for over 20 years now, not even remotely funny, nor even pertinent any more, (if it ever was.)I believe it started as 3-3-3, then due to inflation gradually became 4-4-4. Now sometimes you even hear 5-5-5. At the current rate, by 2020 the Japanese will be paying B10,000 for a ten-minute shag, but they'll have 10" dicks.
Americans are known to the girls as 9-1-1s: nine inches, one hour, 1,000 baht...
Weights and measures are expressed in the metric system in modern Thailand. :D
Hi,
I'll be in Bangkok next November for my first time. I wil lbe there 4-5 days and I'd like to visti the city and of course enjoy with the beauty of the place. I don't know if book a cutie from an agency (which one is better?) and keep her maybe for 2 days when she can give a good service in the bed and as touring guide or choose on the place one girl from some bars. How do you advise me?
Thanks in advanceIMO, Just choose on the place one girl from some bar. The one with whom you can get the chemistry and check her English skills (of course it will also be the cheaper option as all the money goes directly to her as against teh agency money).
With due respect for my friends near and far from Japan:
OMG are shitting me? You should hear the way Japanese guys put the bar/massage girls down in the evenings over dinner & drinks. They are vulgar, viscous, loutish and petty, far more so than the bulk of farangs, Indians, Arabs, or Chinese ever are. I accept it because I sort of understand that this is part of the naughty boy way of blowing off steam. Just a guy thing.
On the other hand, Japanese guys, by & large, are good customers, pay what the chick asks for, are quiet, friendly, and have a tendency to frequent the same girl over and over again. To prefer them is is simply good business on the chick's part. However, they are NOT preferred as bed partners whatsoever, not at all.
Anyway, the "see-see-see" (4-4-4) joke has been floating around for over 20 years now, not even remotely funny, nor even pertinent any more, (if it ever was.)
They are perhaps not prefeered as "bed partners", bus certainly preferred as customers fro al the good reasons you mention. . And since what Wgs look for are customers, not bed partners, draw your own conclusion.
They are perhaps not prefeered as "bed partners", bus certainly preferred as customers fro al the good reasons you mention. . And since what Wgs look for are customers, not bed partners, draw your own conclusion.
The other thing the Japanese guys have going for them is that a much higher pct of them are in their 20's as opposed to Farangs who I would guess are for the most part 40+. Some of them look like they are still in high school. And no matter what girls tell you, they like going with young guys - especially if they pay well.
Popper8469
09-29-10, 22:02
Tried reading the forum but didnt really get a good answer.
Want to take my girlfriend to a show so she willl get turned on give me something extra when back at the hotel. Happy to go to Soi Cowboy, Nana or Patpong.
She's bi-curious but would like some male action too.
Any ideas, including what times they start
I have one night in November when I will be passing through BKK, for my first time ever in Thailand.
Of course I have been reading the forum to find out what my options are and how to make best use of my limited time. Because of the time issue I am leaning towards one of the established massage parlours rather than a go-go, and will probably choose between a two-girl at Eden or Annies.
I am interested to know what others would do in ths situation. I am not asking for advice per se, more just interested in generating discussion on how others would approach the same situation.
Discuss.
Best, A
Mealticket
09-30-10, 08:34
Americans are known to the girls as 9-1-1s: nine inches, one hour, 1,000 baht.
EvilOne hour?
What do you do w/ the 55 minutes left?
Friar Tuck
09-30-10, 09:24
The other thing the Japanese guys have going for them is that a much higher pct of them are in their 20's as opposed to Farangs who I would guess are for the most part 40+. Some of them look like they are still in high school. And no matter what girls tell you, they like going with young guys - especially if they pay well.
From my experience they do in fact prefer older guys for the following reason's ;
1) Sorry to disappoint you legendary shagger's out there, but less is best.
Endless hours of boring, uncomfortable sex everyday is a major turn off.
I know......with you she, comes more often than a number 11 bus, of course she does............. and the Oscar goes...... to the girl of course.
2) The main game is to get off the game! The chances of an older guy becoming a sponsor are much greater. And a marriage offer is also more likely.
3) Butterfly. Older eyes, hands and dicks wander less. Easier to keep the dog on the leash, leading to less loss of face and income.
To mongers of all ages, leave the ego's at home. This is a game that we all play, listen to what is said when they talk to the "offshore loved ones" on the phone, and if you understand thai, play dumb, a whole world of amusement is opened up to you.
I am not saying that they don't fall for a monger, of course that happens, it is just less often than you think.
As for the Japanese factor, it is all down to the baht, nothing else. 10k tips really do brighten your day! I have a couple of close Japanese friends, they spend ridiculous amounts to get what they want and Thailand appeals due to the girls tolerance of kinky behaviour. Kinky in Japanese ladies eyes i should add.
Tuck.
What's the deal with ladies who "do not go with customer". A couple of nights ago, I got rejected by six ladies in a row telling me this, all in Soi Cowboy. Three in Spice Girls, two in Deja Vu, and one in Midnite. Why are they there? Don't know if this is engrish for "only go with japanese" or just "you are disgusting and I don't want to be with you" Most of them weren't shy about asking for tips though. The usual monger forum advice is to move on to the next one, there are a million other ladies literally in Bangkok, though it is a bit of a drag when your taste is extremely particular as mine is
Soi Cowboy has a lot of places now with coyotes. They're just there to take your drink money and tips and then not go home with you.
Just stop going to those bars.
I have one night in November when I will be passing through BKK, for my first time ever in Thailand.
Of course I have been reading the forum to find out what my options are and how to make best use of my limited time. Because of the time issue I am leaning towards one of the established massage parlours rather than a go-go, and will probably choose between a two-girl at Eden or Annies.
I am interested to know what others would do in ths situation. I am not asking for advice per se, more just interested in generating discussion on how others would approach the same situation.
Discuss.
Best, A
When I was in your situation (the first time I visited Thailand about 4 years ago) I went to one of the well known soapy massage parlors and i didn't regret it. I've visited both Eden and Annies in the following years. I was quite unimpressed by Eden and have had mixed experiences in Annie. If I would have to choose again I would choose the soapy again (under the assumption that I do not have experience with the go-go bars who are actually my preferred place now).
I have one night in November when I will be passing through BKK, for my first time ever in Thailand.
Of course I have been reading the forum to find out what my options are and how to make best use of my limited time. Because of the time issue I am leaning towards one of the established massage parlours rather than a go-go, and will probably choose between a two-girl at Eden or Annies.
I am interested to know what others would do in ths situation. I am not asking for advice per se, more just interested in generating discussion on how others would approach the same situation.
Discuss.
Best, A
I always tell my friends that before you die, you should experience at least once in your life,
Thai massage parlor (Soapy- full body massage)
Brazilian Terma
German FKK
You know what to do now!
Bandy
Tried reading the forum but didnt really get a good answer.
Want to take my girlfriend to a show so she willl get turned on give me something extra when back at the hotel. Happy to go to Soi Cowboy, Nana or Patpong.
She's bi-curious but would like some male action too.
Any ideas, including what times they start
Hi Popper, this is very general question and of course a good answer has to take into account many factors, including yours and your GF's age (and how many years you are having sex together), the level of "naughtiness" in your current sex life (or if you prefer your favorite "styles"), the momentum of the "scene" before your visit to the show, and last but not least the overall mindset of your GF.
I think everything is self-explanatory and you can understand why all these thinks matter. Visiting a show with your GF might be a wonderful experience or a nightmare. you might need t consider other turn-ons for your GF before you decide for the go-go. Does she has any turn-ons that you know? Can you ignite these turn-ons in Bangkok while you are having your vacations?
If you are sure that a go-go will be a turn-on then it is better to go at Cowboy (shows are starting generally at 09:30) which has shows (Long Run, Raw Hide, Midnite, Sheebas) but do not expect any kind of "sensual" shows there. They might turn on a woman provided that she is in the mood to get turned on. I've seen couples in go go bars and I've seen that usually women are not very happy or enthusiastic with the overall scene but there are of course exceptions.
In any case my only piece of advice is "think well before you get her to a go-go". If you have done it before then go to cowboy if not try to turn her on with a combination of the things that she likes.
She's bi-curious but would like some male action too.
Only Angelwitch in Nana will fit this bill in my experience. Sometimes they pull a guy on stage and have him lie back on a bench and the girls move over him. Long Gun in Soi Cowboy has some great shows but the ones with the girls shooting shit and putting shit in their pussies is a huge turnoff for me. Not sure how she'll adapt.
I agree with Simian, I've heard that the Japanese and Korean customers are refered to as the 333s.
Dunno, but 5 = ha so 555 is "ha ha ha". "Sam sam sam" just doesn't seem to have the same impact. But I'll defer to your experiences of course.
I have one night in November when I will be passing through BKK, for my first time ever in Thailand.
Of course I have been reading the forum to find out what my options are and how to make best use of my limited time. ...On my first night in Bangkok (passing through on my way to Burma) I had a fantastic experience with a girl from Soi Cowboy (from 5 Star Bar, usually not the youngest ones, but my cutie was 18yo, I have checked the ID) so I would recommend taking a nice girl to your room. The thing is that you could have a massage parlour or brothel experience almost everywhere in the world but a pretty young girl caressing you the whole night in your hotel room, fucking 4 times till the morning, and having tears in her eyes (of course this was good acting) when we said goodbye, was something I think I can only have in BKK.
This may be the silliest comment I have read in ages! First talk to the girls about Japanese men and it all comes down to time and money - not much of the first and a lot of the second - or just observe how long women take when they go with Japanese customers. Generally it runs to less than 30 minutes and that is including showering and undressing - heck - even in Japanese pornos the men are small and don't last long. And as a more scientific data point - they did a study a few years ago that measured men's sexual appetite by nation and woman's sexual satisfation - and the Japanese male came close to dead last. "Make a woman feel like a Princess". Good grief. Only with gold with these girls.Treat a lady like a ***** and treat a ***** like a lady. Works well most of the time.
I think that I saw katoeys in tilac, baccara and shark bars.
Is that possible? Do you have any idea?
Italian Guy
10-01-10, 06:52
Dunno, but 5 = ha so 555 is "ha ha ha". "Sam sam sam" just doesn't seem to have the same impact. But I'll defer to your experiences of course.Not Sure but Japanese guys are oftern called 444.One bar girl told me since they have 4 inches will Last 4 minutes and pay the most at 4000 bath.However that was at a place in bangkok called therma cafe and no it wasn't a coffee shop.
Italian guy just my 2cents
Not Sure but Japanese guys are oftern called 444.One bar girl told me since they have 4 inches will Last 4 minutes ...
Impossible ... that's way to big ... and far to long ... for Japan man ...
... the 4000 baht part might be true though ... :D
Only Angelwitch in Nana will fit this bill in my experience. Sometimes they pull a guy on stage and have him lie back on a bench and the girls move over him. Long Gun in Soi Cowboy has some great shows but the ones with the girls shooting shit and putting shit in their pussies is a huge turnoff for me. Not sure how she'll adapt.One of our favorites. My girl is filipina 27 years old is suzie wong on soi cowboy.
Lot of bi girls with good bi girl action. My girl and I have met some stunners there.
Yes they want money but they put on a good show and do some reall play with girls.
Another thing you could do is join my girl and I and my girl is glad to help out.
With no strings attached and no expectation that we swap partners. Just hang out and my girl is very good at teaching girls to be bi but also not pushy at all.
We even like fucking in front of others or?
But also not required or expected as we are both very nice.
My girl just taught a viet girl in Singapore about strap on love.
We hang out with another couple or two in Bangkok. We are here now.
And the girls do shows for the guys and we do not trade partners.
Of course I would like to but not necessary.
Anyway, there are a few other clubs at nana plaza and we can get the names if you are interested.
Don't go to the touts that advertise for live sex shows. I hear that is completely overpriced and a rip off.
Just like the b and the places the bondage places are totally spoofed and just there to take money and not into it.
IMO, Just choose on the place one girl from some bar. The one with whom you can get the chemistry and check her English skills (of course it will also be the cheaper option as all the money goes directly to her as against teh agency money).I prefer to have some talk and rapport.
First with the girls.
And especially to see how they really look.
But I have had success in the past with agency girls not all bad but expensive for me.
Last night at LOS. Kind of tired of fucking. So wanted a relaxed last night. Decided to visit to CM2 (also SY was fishing someone there) again (known devil is better than unknown angel)
Picked up Leena (the Blondy fm 1st night, again known devil is better.)and for change switched a more jovial Zyna.
Names: Leena and Zyna
Club: CM2
Attitude: Leena 8 (she was the one who always started proceedings) Zyna. 7 (again different story next day)
Damage: 6K+5K + food and drinks 0. 5That was 6k for one and 5 k for the other? For one night? Thanks for the report. I appreciate details. I will have to write details of my last night in Singapore when my gf taught a girl to enjoy strap on love with her and that is why I bring my filipina here.
She loves girls as much as I do.
No, not in those 3 bars.
I think that I saw katoeys in tilac, baccara and shark bars.
Is that possible? Do you have any idea?
2 shots is usually possible.
unfortunately many girls in Nataree don't do BBJ, at least not the first time
Having Barko's report in mind and after a somehow disappointig LT session with a girl form Rainbow 4 of NEP I decided to check Nataree on a staurday evening. I had little difficulties to find it so it's just opposite the Swiss-otel Concorde. Entering the room I almost couldn't believe my eyes. It was kind of stimulus satiation, so much eye candy. Thanks to the guys from Hong Kong who invited me to their table and gave me a short briefing how things are handled there. After adjusting my eyes a little to these many beautiful girls I decided to ask the papasan for a little help and let him guide me around (of course he got some tip later).
He introduced me to many different girls. Soon he found out I was into the young and slim department. The Hong Kong guys had told me earlier they expect me to take a dark skinned girld from the Fishbowl because "that's what all the farangs do" (kind of "you are so stupid, these girls are already in their mid-twenties and dark skin is not attractive at all). But I chose a sideline girl for 2500 referred to me as "fresh from the bus and only eighteen for a few weeks. For my "stupid farang" standards this could be true since she was simply one of the cutiest most attarctive girls I've ever seen.
The moment she took my hand to bring me to the elevator I got a hard one. In the room I found out that her english was almost not existent. But her massage in the bath tub was very nice and after a little blow job on bed I was finally allowed to enter this precious little pussy. Her performance in bed was only so so and somehow I didn't konw if the 90 Minutes encounter with a sideline girld allows a second session so after I came we spend the rest of the time just cuddling and smooching. Nevertheless I was happy.
Returned the next evening (sunday) and this time the variety of girls was not as good as on saturday but still I could spot a lot of stunners. Again the papasan guided me around and this time he treated me like an old buddy. I finally chose a young, very tall but - unusual for my taste - littel chubby girl. She was cheaper (2000) and maybe too little experienced. Almost the whole 90 minutes she referred to my cock as "too big" (which is not true it's very avarage european standard). Still it was a nice experience.
For the sheer quantity of breathtaking asian beauties I would definitely come back to Nataree. So far I am still not sure what to expect to be included in such a 90 minutes session, two times? BBBJ (which once i got)? CIM? Does it all depend on the girl and the kind of chemistry or have they some kind of company policy at Nataree?
unfortunately many girls in Nataree don't do BBJ, at least not the first timeCondomless bj's are an endangered species at most Thai soapies these days, especially the fancier Bangkok ones. Though you never know . . . I was in the bath the other day with a nice young girl and suddenly she just slipped it in, and I don't mean her mouth.
Condomless bj's are an endangered species at most Thai soapies these days, especially the fancier Bangkok ones. Though you never know . . . I was in the bath the other day with a nice young girl and suddenly she just slipped it in, and I don't mean her mouth.
Are there any of the fancy onces were you always can expect a very high level of service (BBBJ, DFK, CIM)? Recommendations are appriciated :)
//Q
are there any of the fancy onces were you always can expect a very high level of service (bbbj, dfk, cim)? recommendations are appriciated :)
//q
yeah ... [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s comes to mind ... bbbj ... cim ... followed by intense dfk cums highly recommended by many adventurous punters... :)
yeah ... [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s comes to mind ... bbbj ... cim ... followed by intense dfk cums highly recommended by many adventurous punters... :)
man,, you are one sick puppy. i saw the :) but still.
some noob won't understand and try it.
slim
hi fellow bm´s.
maby a bit ot,but got a question to you that goes to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) nowadays.
was there about 5 months ago and met a lady name kan.
to make it short...does anyone know if she is still there?
thanks,
goteborg
Are there any of the fancy onces were you always can expect a very high level of service (BBBJ, DFK, CIM)?You know, after many years of doing soapies all over Thailand, I'm convinced it all comes down to the luck of the draw. The more expensive ones do tend to have better looking girls, but the service isn't necessarily better than average, and of course some times it's worse.
I find the most important thing is to develop a relationship with the khon chia -- the guy or woman who helps you make your pick. If you find one who you like and give them a small tip whenever they steer you right, they can become a great resource. I can't tell you how many times I've taken girls on the recommendation of a reliable khon chia I never would have picked myself, and walked out afterwards with a huge smile on my face.
Coyotes are there to draw you in, ply you with more expensive drinks, and entertain you with the hopes you'll take one if the girls that go with customers. Coyotes are dressed differently than the girls that go with customers.Tilac, Shark! Bacarra, Rawhide, Long Gun, RB4 are some bars that haven't brought in coyotes.
Is this a recent development? In years past I remember bar-fining hostesses, waitresses, greeters, GRO's, Avon sales girls, etc ad nauseum (on one trip I made it a point to bar fine as many different occupations as possible). I thought even mamasans were available. What is the official occupation of these coyotes?
Last week in Angeles City I bar-fined a DJ and several waitresses (including one "head waitress"), and even the pizza delivery girl indicated availability (although cherry girl so I didn't actually go for that one)
Is this a recent development? In years past I remember bar-fining hostesses, waitresses, greeters, GRO's, Avon sales girls, etc ad nauseum (on one trip I made it a point to bar fine as many different occupations as possible). I thought even mamasans were available. What is the official occupation of coyotes.
Officially? Coyotes.
Recent in last year or two.
Condomless bj's are an endangered species at most Thai soapies these days, especially the fancier Bangkok ones.
Is there anyway to guarantee bbbj before you pick an pay for a girl in a soapie? This is certainly one benefit of the gogo establishments.
Boater Boy
10-05-10, 12:38
Hi Guys,
Went to SOL last night, OK nothing unusual there...However chose Piang who I had never seen before. She tells me she has been working there for a long time. Anyway she provides excellent service as we would expect from this wonderful establishment, also she is very good to look at IMHO. Nice boobs and pussy and is very happy to share them with you. I definatley intend a repeat.
Unless you gıuys wear her out that is.
Boater Boy
Third day in Bangkok, will write my review when I have some more time but it will simply be opinions and expressions of places already well trodden in the forum. Just think trying to find a GFE is harder and the go-go girls for the most part seem done over. (One even had lube which is a sign for a thai girl working in thailand that she gets way too much custom to be a gfe and yes for rainbow 4, by the way short time for non-japanese is 2k and for Japanese is 3k). I went to climax around 1am, too dark to see faces properly for the most part. I did a circuit but the nicest to me seem to have already been taken or where brought there. I know the crowd increases after 2am and that it closes at 3am? but at 1am if was too much hard work. Lot's of street action between soi 11 and the juntion to Soi Cowboy, clustering around Thermae. A few that look nice. I think if I was not a tourist in BKK I would learn a little thai and partake.
I did find out something interesting thought that will add a little bit to the sum of knowledge in this thread. Still suffering from jet lag, having barely sleep in 3 days, I was just hanging out with my mamasan friend yesterday and we ended up near a discotheque, tired and knowing I did not have the energy for anyone, I still wanted a look see, the bouncer tried to prevent me entering but the mamasan knew him so I entered, had a quick look, a few girls and a lot of thai men. I asked once outside why are there only thai men there? Well, these are (they look from 18 to mid 20's and spiky hair seems popular) men from Isaan whom to go-go girls pay to have sex with (there's a short time hotel nearby). Yup male Isaan gigolos for the go-go girls when they want home brew.
No bar fine, just direct negotiation if they find them attractive.
She asked me not to tell anyone, so I won't mention where, but fairly interesting knowledge/information.
...a lot of thai men. I asked once outside why are there only thai men there? Well, these are (they look from 18 to mid 20's and spiky hair seems popular) men from Isaan whom to go-go girls pay to have sex with (there's a short time hotel nearby). Yup male Isaan gigolos for the go-go girls when they want home brew...No bar fine, just direct negotiation if they find them attractive...She asked me not to tell anyone, so I won't mention where, but fairly interesting knowledge/information.I have heard about this before -- P4P girls paying Thai men for sex -- from a few of my bar girl / go-go dancer friends. Seems a lot of them really do not like the sex they get with foreigner customers.
Money is power to these women. One of my regular girls, (who works at a famous boom boom shop), asked me today if she could move in and live with me. She said I would not have to give her money because she makes enough on her own to take care of herself and her family. Damn, if I could get her to pay my rent, I could claim honorary Thai guy status!
Amazing Thailand...!
I have heard about this beforeThere's a little late night joint like that which I've enjoyed going to a few times: Sib Saen. You can find it on the forum, but it's not for everyone.
Wouldn't mind finding out about others.
In my quest to go in every bar in Nana and Cowboy.
So Friday night step out of Tilac - so far so normal then think I will try Toy -
Get hauled in then girl with glasses grabs me by the dick and moves me to the end of the bar - 30 secs later her knickers are off and I am on display and she's giving me a good rub down
Then it got even weirder - I realise that in getting her drink she has sat on my lap and I am now inside!
Was strangely pleasant but worrying at the same time.
Has anyone else met the odd girl with glasses just wondered if she has form? - it is not the usual style of greeting!!Sounds like a normal greeting at Toy Bar.
Well, these are (they look from 18 to mid 20's and spiky hair seems popular) men from Isaan whom to go-go girls pay to have sex with (there's a short time hotel nearby). Yup male Isaan gigolos for the go-go girls when they want home brew.Welcome to reality. It's just somebody with whom to party that looks like the Thai version of cool, that speaks their own language, that has their stupid sense of humor, and that fucks them like their dad fucked their mom (and each & every one of the old neighbor broads too.)
Twenty minutes of peacock, ten minutes of bullshit, then 30 seconds of hard banging, = Sex, Thai style. The chicks don't want any kissing or pussy slurping, no hugging, smooching, or anything remotely requiring any work. Just plug the young fucker in and let him snap his butt up and down like a rabbit, no orgasm required.
Thai guys are normally thin, have hard and recognizable facial features, with long backs, sinewy muscles, non-challenging penile girth and, yo hello, they cum in a freakin' heartbeat. Thai chicks grew up with this, it's the Thai way, and this is exactly what a lot of them NEED to get their itch scratched.
Problem is, a good number of those Thai gigolos are also gay, (with all or the inherent problems associated with male-male sex in S. E. Asia of course.) The other problem is, Isaan girls are at the total bottom of the barrel on ANY Thai guy 'chick wish list', so, those girls that you saw in that place, Must Stop, were most assuredly ALL from ISAAN too. Fuck it, just like anybody else here in this screwy country: They want what they want, they have to pay. TIT.
Think about it.
Welcome to reality...
Fuck it, just like anybody else here in this screwy country: They want what they want, they have to pay. TIT...Think about it.Damn, Barko...
For a minute there, I thought you were channeling OTH!
The only thing you forgot to mention was the whiskey, coke and soda...
Welcome to reality. It's just somebody with whom to party that looks like the Thai version of cool, that speaks their own language, that has their stupid sense of humor, and that fucks them like their dad fucked their mom (and each & every one of the old neighbor broads too.)
Twenty minutes of peacock, ten minutes of bullshit, then 30 seconds of hard banging, = Sex, Thai style. The chicks don't want any kissing or pussy slurping, no hugging, smooching, or anything remotely requiring any work. Just plug the young fucker in and let him snap his butt up and down like a rabbit, no orgasm required.
Thai guys are normally thin, have hard and recognizable facial features, with long backs, sinewy muscles, non-challenging penile girth and, yo hello, they cum in a freakin' heartbeat. Thai chicks grew up with this, it's the Thai way, and this is exactly what a lot of them NEED to get their itch scratched.
Problem is, a good number of those Thai gigolos are also gay, (with all or the inherent problems associated with male-male sex in S. E. Asia of course.) The other problem is, Isaan girls are at the total bottom of the barrel on ANY Thai guy 'chick wish list', so, those girls that you saw in that place, Must Stop, were most assuredly ALL from ISAAN too. Fuck it, just like anybody else here in this screwy country: They want what they want, they have to pay. TIT.
Think about it.
So glad you did not go overboard with generalizing a whole country full of people! :-)
Another large bomb gone off, this time it appears it went off prior to being placed at its designated location.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/199880/police-hunt-bomber
Expected to be a lot of bombs this month, next and December as anti-coup, anit-government/Yellow shirt forces start to ratchet up the only method left available to them now to protest against the oppression of democracy since the coup.
If you are in Bangkok be careful !
Another large bomb gone off, this time it appears it went off prior to being placed at its designated location.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/199880/police-hunt-bomber
Expected to be a lot of bombs this month, next and December as anti-coup, anit-government/Yellow shirt forces start to ratchet up the only method left available to them now to protest against the oppression of democracy since the coup.
If you are in Bangkok be careful !But the bomb guy was from Hang Dong, Chiang Mai Province a major hotbed of red shirts and one of the number one rally points for the "Suea Daeng" in Chiang Mai. (*) Also, the Hang Dong Tambon chief is Surapol Sattayarak, is a long time supporter and vote buyer for former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, right? Hmm, I am doing the math here again, maybe it's too hard, hmm.
Oh, OK, never mind, I'll stop thinking, gosh it's just too difficult. Oh, wait, isn't Hang Dong one of those decreed by Red Shirt radio host Kwanchai Praipana as on the violence list if Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva ever physically goes there?
Oh, and wait up again, didn't the car that the SAME bomb guy from yesterday drove down from Hang Dong, on April 3rd of this year, actually BLOW UP in the Poseidon Massage parking lot in Ratchada on April 5th? And The Poseidon just happens to be owned by a long time mortal enemy of Thaksin Shinawatra, yes? Gosh, this is all just too complicated, damn! I'll just have to get back into the Quintic form = 0 to figure this tough one out. Sherlock Holmes, where are you when we need you?
Never mind, OK, tell you what, let's just do this:
"Calling all red shirts! Hey guys! Your bomber buddy just fucked up again!"
Better?
(* = I used to own a piece of property, 6 rai land & house, just south of Hang Dong)
Anyway, thanks for the warning The Pro. Will definitely keep an eye out for dudes from Chiang Mai carrying dynamite or disassembled land mines around in their car then carrying the stuff up to their walk up apartments in Bangkok to be carried back down and delivered to an unknown location somewhere in a city of 12 million people. And, no, I am not kidding about that last part.
Thanks, really.
Barko,
Would you post in such a way if one went off in Soi Cowboy one night ? Or in Soi 4 ?
The warning signs are there and people should be aware that the situation in Thailand is dangerous presently.
Corne Bakker
10-07-10, 13:11
I've heard that they refer to them as see, see, see (444): 4 centimeters, 4 minutes, 4k.I'm getting really excited about my trip to Bangkok next month. Do you have some other experiences that you haven't told about yet on this forum? I'm a real fan of your stories. What is the most funny thing you have ever experienced in your Mongering adventures?
CB
But the bomb guy was from Hang Dong, Chiang Mai Province a major hotbed of red shirts and one of the number one rally points for the "Suea Daeng" in Chiang Mai. (*) Also, the Hang Dong Tambon chief is Surapol Sattayarak, is a long time supporter and vote buyer for former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, right? Hmm, I am doing the math here again, maybe it's too hard, hmm.
Oh, OK, never mind, I'll stop thinking, gosh it's just too difficult. Oh, wait, isn't Hang Dong one of those decreed by Red Shirt radio host Kwanchai Praipana as on the violence list if Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva ever physically goes there?
Oh, and wait up again, didn't the car that the SAME bomb guy from yesterday drove down from Hang Dong, on April 3rd of this year, actually BLOW UP in the Poseidon Massage parking lot in Ratchada on April 5th? And The Poseidon just happens to be owned by a long time mortal enemy of Thaksin Shinawatra, yes? Gosh, this is all just too complicated, damn! I'll just have to get back into the Quintic form = 0 to figure this tough one out. Sherlock Holmes, where are you when we need you?
Never mind, OK, tell you what, let's just do this:
"Calling all red shirts! Hey guys! Your bomber buddy just fucked up again!"
Better?
(* = I used to own a piece of property, 6 rai land & house, just south of Hang Dong)
Anyway, thanks for the warning The Pro. Will definitely keep an eye out for dudes from Chiang Mai carrying dynamite or disassembled land mines around in their car then carrying the stuff up to their walk up apartments in Bangkok to be carried back down and delivered to an unknown location somewhere in a city of 12 million people. And, no, I am not kidding about that last part.
Thanks, really.My deepest and most profound condolences to the family and friends of the innocent people that this Red Shirt bomber has murdered.
The fact that the bomber himself is gone forever is a good thing, of course, not just for the present, but for the future as well. How many innocent lives have been spared by the accidental death of this political pawn's errant hand?
Red Shirt Bomb Maker Accidentally Kills Self (http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/200229/bombmaker-dies-in-blast) "Police said earlier that the suspected bomber, Samai Wongsuwan was a fervent red-shirt and fierce supporter of Thaksin Shinawatra."
As evidence mounts, the ongoing ruthless methods of Thaksin Shinawatra become more and more apparent. Thaksin will resort to anything to regain the money and land seized by the Thai Courts, including the killing his own people.
Thaksin Shinawatra is the most diabolical leader in the history of modern day Thailand.
Dreams1973
10-08-10, 10:15
I'll be next month in Bangkok,
Can somebody tell me the best way for going from the airport to my hotel in nana zone? I asked for pick up by the hotel staff and asked me 1.000 bath. It is confortable but maybe not so cheap.
Thanks
Boater Boy
10-08-10, 17:13
I'll be next month in Bangkok,
Can somebody tell me the best way for going from the airport to my hotel in nana zone? I asked for pick up by the hotel staff and asked me 1.000 bath. It is confortable but maybe not so cheap.
Thanks
Hi,
I took a taxi from the airport to Nana this week and paid just 250 B, including tolls. The traffic was light so you may pay a bit more if it is busy.
Boater Boy
PolyOrchid
10-08-10, 17:15
I just finished a 3-hour, 2000 baht session with a little Thai stunner. She's 27, speaks perfect English, is petite, smart, sexy, and aims to please.
I met her on Craigslist but she's constantly getting flagged so you may have a hard time seeing her there. She's an independent provider, doesn't do the bar scene.
I will gladly pass on her details; treat her well, boys, she's a jewel.
Member #4169
10-08-10, 20:33
I'm getting really excited about my trip to Bangkok next month. Do you have some other experiences that you haven't told about yet on this forum? I'm a real fan of your stories. What is the most funny thing you have ever experienced in your Mongering adventures?
CBI am just as excited as you are about going back to BKK next month as well. I booked my room at LL and want to explore that area a little bit more. During a stay a few years ago I was staying with a expat/thai couple. He is an Aussie guy that has a serious drinking problem and one night he told me that he went to the upscale pussy part of town. Soi 33 is the area he was mentioning about. So I am excited about checking it out. Also the stories from other reporters on this forum make me curious about the this part of Bangkok.
By the way, do you know the real name of Bangkok? It's Krungthep Mahanakon Bovorn Rattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokpop Noparatratchatathani Burirom Udomratchanivetmahasatan Amornpiman Avatarnsatit Sakkathattiyaavisnukarmprasit.
The english translation would be something like:
The city of angels, the great city, the residence of the Emerald Buddha, the impregnable city of God Indra, the grand capital of the world endowed with nine precious gems, the happy city, abounding in an enormous Royal Palace that resembles the heavenly abode where reigns the reincarnated god, a city given by Indra and built by Vishnukarn.
But you asked about the most funny thing I have experienced during my mongering adventures. Well, here is one that I found quite funny. It happened in Nana Entertainment Plaza and I was not even planning on doing it on purpose.:-) I convinced a Thai GF of mine to do some Go Go bar hopping (her English is very decent and she does not look 100% Thai, so she could pass for being a tourist). Naturally as usual my belly was filled with butterflies and my heartbeat was a little bit elevated. This happens to me every time I go out to NEP. It is an intoxicating feeling. I just love watching beautiful women and the knowledge that they are available to touch, taste, play and have fun with (for the right amount of baht, ofcourse) makes those places highly addictive for me. All the more reason to have someone else by your side that might enjoy it as well. So here I am with my Thai GF and some time to kill. We just had a fabulous meal in one of the Chinese restaurants in MBK and we could either watch a movie or go to NEP (these were the 2 choices that I had given her). Since she was wearing a simple short dress with not much underneath it, a stay-al in an icy cinema was not such a good idea. So she was being a good girl and agreed to Go Go bar hopping at NEP.
We took the BTS to Nana and got off on the correct side. After a short walk we ended up in NEP and started to look around. First we played some games on the ground level (four in a row) an had a drink. Then I asked my GF to go up and increase the fun a little. She asked me how, and I answered by grabbing her hand and pulling her up the escalator towards the next floor. We were greeted by touts, ladyboys and dancing girls and decided to check out one of the bigger bars. I cannot recall the name of the bar. We were escorted by the mama-san to our booth and started to watch the bar scene from there. The mama-san got really friendly with us and we offered her a drink. She gladly accepted and we did some more smalltalk. My Thai GF got a little bit drunk already and started to talk Thai to the mama-san. The mama-san was amused by the fact that a Thai GF (who is absolutely not part of the whole P4P scene) was interested in going with a farang to the NEP. She asked what would turn my Thai GF on. The reply was: my farang friend, nude on stage.
As if the devil had part in this, a show was about to start in which 8 girls were to perform a multiple lesbian act. The mama-san looked at me and asked me: You want to go on stage? I looked at my Thai GF and she almost literally pushed me out of the booth, saying: go go (Maybe that is were the term Go Go comes from.:-)) So here I was, in a Go Go Bar in NEP, with a drunk Thai GF and a mama-san that had the humor to see how far this little Thai girl and her farang friend would go to have some fun. A real mind twister this was for me. Should I stay with my Thai GF or have fun with 8 hot smoking Go Go dancers, but then on stage in front of the entire bar. Fellow mongers what would you do?
Well, I decided to have a go at it. So I went up on stage and 8 girls looked at me and at the mama-san. The latter gave orders to undress me and make a good show out of it. Can you imagine 16 hands pulling at your clothes? I was in my undies in no time (I was happy that I decided to wear underwear that day and not freeballing it :-)). A chair was put on stage and I was ordered to sit (nang rep roi, krab!). A very cute specimen decided to do a lap dance. Her naked body which was supplied with a grade A tush and very nice pair of handful sized breasts. Soon, my underwear began to shrink (or was it something else that got too large?) and I had to ask the girl to either gyrate her cute behind a little bit less hard on my crotch or else face the consequences. But these words were spoken to a deaf (wo)man. She decided to put some creativity into it of her own and stripped me of my last piece of clothing that separated my manhood from her naked skin. 8 pairs of eyes (and numerous pairs of eyes in the crowd) stared at the stage and saw me in my birthday suit. The wish of my Thai GF had come true! Her farang was actually naked on stage. The only thing unaccounted for were the 8 gorgeous dancers that were not willing to let go of me so easily.
I was hard as a rock. Khun mi ham yai ka (you have a large one), were the words whispered by the dancer that undressed me. She swung her legs around my waist and started rubbing her crotch on my member. She was aroused, too, because the fear of being rubbed by a twat that has a 2-days old shaving job (the term sandpaper comes to mind here) was not what actually happened. Instead I felt a warm and moist trail of womanly wetness on my c*ck and thanked heaven for not having a rash burn all over my pleasure stick. The feeling was intense and her leg muscles were phenomenal. She was leaning backwards and her arms dropped to the floor. She shook her head and her hair was flinging wildly from side to side. I decided to add a little bit of extra's to it as well and started spinning around slowly. The audience was applauding and I almost dropped her to the floor. I almost completely forgot that there was an audience and the clapping brought me back to reality. As an amateur performer you have to forgive me that my eyes were fixed on her body and not on the audience :-)
During my slow spin I saw that other girls were performing their usual show and 7 hot steaming bodies were intertwined in steamy lesbian actions. The show was over with an abrupt stop of the music and the lights going out. The dancer that was wrapped around my waist raised her body and put her arms around my neck. She gave me a quick kiss on the cheek and said: Khob Khun ka (Thank you) and I just looked into her eyes and decided to remember her number. I quickly gathered my clothes together and managed to get dressed before the lights came on again. I was a happy guy and saw my Thai GF sitting there with a huge smile on her face. I sat next to her and the mama-san decided to give me a drink on the house. She jokingly asked if she could my pay bar fine and take me to her room because she wanted to sample some of that ham jai that I had.:-). But I decided to stick to my Thai GF that night.
The morale of this story? Even within NEP you might be suprised as what to see on stage. You think you get to see gorgeous girls. But when you do see a farang on stage, don't get upset or jealous. He is probably there to please someone else.
D.
A cutie at Rawhide quoted me shorttime for 1000b last time I was there, as her opening bid.
Sadly I was saving my energy for Pattaya ... Champagne gogo has ST all in for 1500b. Strange scenes ... shapely mamasan groping the tits of a waitress, hand inside her bra, while standing facing away from her, talking to someone else.
A cutie at Rawhide quoted me shorttime for 1000b last time I was there, as her opening bid.
Sadly I was saving my energy for Pattaya ... Champagne gogo has ST all in for 1500b. Strange scenes ... shapely mamasan groping the tits of a waitress, hand inside her bra, while standing facing away from her, talking to someone else.
Shite, 1K for ST at Rawhide, either business is horrible, the girl is a newbie or you have terrible hearing! J/K, sorry you didn't have the energy to go for it. I haven't heard many stories about guys getting ST for 1K from any gogo for a long time. Strange about the mamasan doing the groping???
I'll be next month in Bangkok,
Can somebody tell me the best way for going from the airport to my hotel in nana zone? I asked for pick up by the hotel staff and asked me 1.000 bath. It is confortable but maybe not so cheap.
Thanks
hey, Dreams. You will see many LARGE signs pointing you to the city taxi pick-up point. It's located on the lowest level of the airport, just outside the door -- I think in fact there may be two departure points. Change some money or go to an ATM before you head for the taxi.
You will see multiple desks, maybe a line. Tell the girl/guy the name of your hotel. S/he gives you a receipt and hands the rest of the (receipt) paper to the driver. He takes you from there. He will have functional English at best. And the driver will be "he".
The driver should turn on the meter right away. If he doesn't when you drive away, remind him. He will PROBABLY ask you for toll road money (75 THB), but may roll that into your fare. That "ask" is ok, unless you want to avoid the expressway and meander through the streets (Don't). If you give the driver 100THB, he will give you the change after one of the two toll booths.
Your total fare may be 300 THB, maybe a bit more with toll road fare.
BTW, there is an airport fact sheet at the top of the page, but the information looks out of date.
~TTG
I'll be next month in Bangkok,
Can somebody tell me the best way for going from the airport to my hotel in nana zone? I asked for pick up by the hotel staff and asked me 1.000 bath. It is confortable but maybe not so cheap.
ThanksIf you don't have more luggage than you can carry down a few flights of stairs, take the airport train to Makkasan station (15 Baht) and a taxi from there (shouldn't be more than 60-80 Baht depending on the traffic) or the subway and skytrain, which involves further walking/changing and doesn't save all that much.
If you don't have more luggage than you can carry down a few flights of stairs, take the airport train to Makkasan station (15 Baht) and a taxi from there (shouldn't be more than 60-80 Baht depending on the traffic) or the subway and skytrain, which involves further walking/changing and doesn't save all that much.It is actually easier than that. From the arrivals area, (on Level 2), there are moving ramps all the way to the LINK Train Station.
For the time being, the Express Line to Makkasam is 100 baht; the local train (w/more stops) is 15 baht. Makkasan (at Asoke & Phetchaburi Rds.) is not too far from Nana, although you'll have to exit the station to get a taxi.
The slower local train (City Line) goes all the way to the Phaya Thai BTS Station. There is an easy direct connect here between the two systems. The BTS trip from Phaya Thai to Nana on the BTS is about 30 baht, and could be much quicker if there is heavy traffic. Using this route, you can actually get to Nana for 45 baht!
If you have heavy luggage, you'll have to use the elevators to exit the terminal stations, and negotiate the way from the Nana BTS Station to your hotel.
see: http://www.bangkokairporttrain.com/
Hi I had a chat with a girl sitting just off the pace in Nana down in the quiet end-can't remember her name but she was 30 odd and had really really long hair smoked and sat near a small hotel Anyhow some SW are crap but this one was good except she did not give me a BJ which is good as this seems to indicate that she was careful and she did give me a great pre and manicure and added a few THBs for the job. I gotta say some of the sights and foreigners in the soi area was really sad-I was embarrased to be a whiteboy. The lack of respect and loutish behaviour must give us all a bad name esp the UK football team that was making a complete arse of themsleves-oh well that's life in the market place.
Stiffoak 571
10-10-10, 10:16
The girl with glasses in Toys bar on Cowboy has gonorrhea so beware - passed it on to me which is how I know!
So I went to Soi Cowboy last night with my girl friend from Philippines.
Okay no surprise but hardly any girls seemed friendly towards her.
And she is into girls very much. And she is always smiling. Also wearing a dress with no underwear for one or two girls that smiled at her she opened her legs and showed them her pussy so did she scare them?
Seems like last year there were a few more girl friendly girls on soi cowboy anybody find any bars with bi girls or lesbians in nana or soi cowboy we found a girl on soi 7/1 at a gogo next to eden club she was not girl friendly but liked me and then we had a good time but my girl friend was left out I guess we go back to Pattaya to find more girls that are into girls.
SirMarjAlot
10-10-10, 11:41
After my trip to Rio had a strong desire to return to Thailand after neally 3 years away. Book a flight direct with Thai airways from London Heathrow. Got £230 off the flight through building up nectar points and then booking the flight through Expedia. The flight was good, Thai have the most legroom in economy class I have ever experienced. The plane was only half full so had a row to myself. No personal TV though and felt the oxygen levels were low.
Booked into the Majestic suites for 3 nights just round the corner from the NEP. Very cheap and yet comfortable hotel, including a cooked breakfast in the morning.
Massage
The first night I stop off for a massage down the Sukhumvit 2hrs 1000b, more expensive than most, but chose it due to the girl and she was very sexy. Wanted 1000B for hand-relief eventually agreed on 600B, but she had some lovely big thai tits and wanted to get it between them so she got her 1000B in the end.
ROund to soi cowboy, neally took two twins sat outside the Siamese twins bars, they looked like good time girls.
Into Bacarra but too loud and then into Tilac. Soi Cowboy very busy, lots of mongers around although less tourists in general around since my last trip pre- financial crisis and political violence etc.
Tilac
Meet a nice girl in Tilac, in the bar we are snogging, she grabbing my cock and sticking her tongue down my throat, she had no knickers on, wanted 3500B ST, eventually agreed on 2000B. Back to the hotel. She was alot of fun, very good BBBJ and even licked my anus! She wanted to stay LT back at the hotel but let her go as she not sleep and I was jetlagged.
Soi 7, 1 Crazy horse
The next evening planning to hit the gogos of the Nana, decide to kill some time in the early evening down soi 7, 1 not expecting to find any girl to my liking down here. Then I meet this lovely curvy thai girl in the crazy horse bar, we agree 1500B ST and back to my hotel. She was a little shy and inexperienced but none the less had a good sex session with her.
Spend the remainder of the night in the Nana, the top floor was mostly dead but it was a Monday night. Next floor down lots of girls, if I was not empty would have had plenty to choose from, good ratio in the Erotica bar. Later I walk over to soi 3 and the Grace hotel to check out whats on offer there. Some BIG black girls but nothing I like.
4 hands hand relief
My last evening I'm walking up and down soi 22, fancy a massage, find a little place offering 4 hands massage for 2 hours for 700B, the girls not too bad either. Always a nice way to kill a couple of hours especially if you have some aches and pains or just need to recharge. At the end the girls are offering me full sex for 1500B, I want a double BJ though with CIM and they agree on 1000B each, I think great! But then the condoms come out. I'm not interested in CBJ so we agree HJ for 500B each. They very good at a 4 hands hand-job and completely empty me.
I spend the remainder of the evening trying some different Gogos down soi cowboy, then down soi 5 and into gullivers to check out the freelancers. Not so many and nothing I like. Next stop Pattaya.
Conclusion
Bangkok still has some great mongering on offer as ever. Alot more Africans about now, they are down soi 5 and even in some of the Gogos down soi Cowboy. Exchange rates are not favorable now and one has to budget.
I returned from Hongkong today, and decided to check out the new airport link.
It started well - easy to find in the airport, down to level B1. I opted for the express train to Makkasan station.
The first surprise was the quite old-fashioned ticket sales station ... ok. Then - I saw the train leaving and was alone on departure platform 3 - for at least 10 minutes. The express trains actually run every 30 min. (these days), but - strangely another express train came in after 15 min., did not open the doors - and left empty again. Really funny!
OK, finally another train came in, I boarded, everything clean and new - no complaints. Space for luggage will be a problem one day, when the train is full. I heard about the trains being dirty though new - but I cannot confirm that.
The ride to Makkasan lasted no longer than 15 min., quite comfortable. Got out there - a chaos of signs, a huge empty station, some guards guiding the way for the lost arriving tourists. Two levels down to the taxi stand.
--> No taxi.
--> No taxi.
--> No taxi.
Taxi comes, several guys queuing in front of me - taxi driver refuses the 1st customer, the 2nd customer ... the 3rd was fitting somehow...
"Important" people coming down to the taxi stand - and they get the next taxi - of course. Who gives a sh.t about the normal tourists ...
25 min. later I had my taxi. Leaving the station - and no way to turn right towards Petchaburi road. Instead of that the taxi had to drive all the way down to Rama 9, Fortune Tower junction. U-Turn - and the traffic jam starts. On a sunday! Don't want to know how this looks like on weekdays.
I was back home at Livingstone's 2.5 hours after I left the airport.
Costs to Sukhumvit Soi 33: THB 100 for the train ticket, THB 65 for the taxi from Makkasan via Rome to Sukhumvit Soi 33. A taxi from the airport to Soi 33 would be around THB 250 - 300 - and at least 1.5 - 2 hours faster.
This was the last time that I used the airport link. The very last time. I discovered my secret love for taxis.
Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th
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Can somebody tell me the best way for going from the airport to my hotel in nana zone? I asked for pick up by the hotel staff and asked me 1.000 bath. It is confortable but maybe not so cheap.
...
Dreams1973,
Take a taxi at the airport. THB 250 - 300, and a peaceful ride :) .
Giotto
Joe Nailer
10-10-10, 16:38
I returned from Hongkong today, and decided to check out the new airport link.
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This was the last time that I used the airport link. The very last time. I discovered my secret love for taxis.
I also tried this service yesterday. I took the City Line route as I wanted to get off at Ramkhamhaeng.
I got on the train at around 8pm and got to my apartment in Ekamai around 8.30pm !!!
It cost me 15B for the City Line ride and 50B for a motocy.
I knew 50B is a bit of a rip off for this distance (Petchaburi side), but I didn't feel like haggling for 10,20B.
So whether Airport Link is convenient or not depends on where your final destination is, AND what luggage you have.
I have a car and could use it for airport. But now I know I can use Airport Link, the most convenient for me.
Giotto, you may use City Line and get off at Ramkhuamhaeng and catch a taxi from there. From here, there is no right-turns required, get into Soi Thong Lo then to Suk. (you may have a u-turn for the final leg to soi33)
By the way, since I started to drive here a couple month ago, the thai road system (at least in Bangkok) made me think that just maybe Thai do not posses the concept of right-turns. Instead they have the U-Turn system everywhere. Even the major junctions, there is no way you can turn right, but you have to turn left first and must go as far as you find the U-Turn, and there you will be stuck in traffic jams. Presumably they don't want a traffic jam at the junction, but dont mind that a few km down the road. What a laugh. TIT?
This was the last time that I used the airport link. The very last time. I discovered my secret love for taxis.Has anyone noticed yet that all of the escalators at City Station (Makkasan) ONLY GO UP? I can manage my luggage on the escalator, but that freakin' walk down those stairs SUCKS.
OK then, it's actually pretty easy to get TO the Makkasan SARL station by taxi from Sukhumvit, 40 Baht.
So: I've found that if I take the Airport Rail Link TO Suvarnabhumi, then take a taxi BACK to Suk Soi 10, I end up a very happy boy.
25 min. later I had my taxi. Leaving the station - and no way to turn right towards Petchaburi road. Instead of that the taxi had to drive all the way down to Rama 9, Fortune Tower junction. U-Turn - and the traffic jam starts. On a sunday! Don't want to know how this looks like on weekdays.
I had that same problem trying to get to nana. NO RIGHT TURN. 5 min. ride turned into a 30 min. ride. You think it's better to take it all the way to Phaya Thai then catch a cab from there?
So I went to Soi Cowboy last night with my girl friend from Philippines.
Okay no surprise but hardly any girls seemed friendly towards her.
And she is into girls very much. And she is always smiling. Also wearing a dress with no underwear for one or two girls that smiled at her she opened her legs and showed them her pussy so did she scare them?
Seems like last year there were a few more girl friendly girls on soi cowboy anybody find any bars with bi girls or lesbians in nana or soi cowboy we found a girl on soi 7/1 at a gogo next to eden club she was not girl friendly but liked me and then we had a good time but my girl friend was left out I guess we go back to Pattaya to find more girls that are into girls.I'm also into "girl friendly girls"! We had a few nice experiences at Annie's with my girlfriend but still looking for other options. Any info very welcome!
The next evening planning to hit the gogos of the Nana, decide to kill some time in the early evening down soi 7, 1 not expecting to find any girl to my liking down here. Then I meet this lovely curvy thai girl in the crazy horse bar, we agree 1500B ST and back to my hotel. She was a little shy and inexperienced but none the less had a good sex session with her.
That girl from Soi 7 looks very familiar, I would almost swear that EvelPenievel has posted pics of her, not the same ones mind you, a few months ago. Maybe you guys are "Peter In Laws." Anyhow, she is very cute, good for you!
Would be interested to hear which is the better?
Planning on going for a week.
Has anyone noticed yet that all of the escalators at City Station (Makkasan) ONLY GO UP? I can manage my luggage on the escalator, but that freakin' walk down those stairs SUCKS...OK then, it's actually pretty easy to get TO the Makkasan SARL station by taxi from Sukhumvit, 40 Baht...So: I've found that if I take the Airport Rail Link TO Suvarnabhumi, then take a taxi BACK to Suk Soi 10, I end up a very happy boy.LOL...!
In reality the airport LINK only makes sense if you are traveling light, understand how to get to/from the Bangkok LINK stations, and/or the traffic from the airport is impossibly snarled.
The rest of the time, the taxi makes a lot more sense.
Barko: What are your thoughts on why they cannot get these things right the first time in Thailand?
Stiffoak 571, most of the time I get a bj or hj at the Toy Bar. Did you do more with the girl with glasses? Did you get gonorrhea from a blowjob or did you do more with her?
Would like the Bkk experts to help a BKK newbie in here to make the most of his time. I'll arrive on a Friday at the end of the month and I'd like to know what are the best gogos to go for a first timer and the ones to avoid. Also, any suggestions/recommendations/tips for good clubs to go party on the weekend would be highly appreciated. Also, if anyone will be in town for the last weekend of October and would like to hang out, have a drink or two and go party together at the clubs/gogos, let me know.
Stiffoak 571
10-11-10, 11:18
Stiffoak 571, most of the time I get a bj or hj at the Toy Bar. Did you do more with the girl with glasses? Did you get gonorrhea from a blowjob or did you do more with her?Went upstairs for the rather seedy room - yes did more and the condom came off but oddly she wasnt bothered and wanted to carry on.
Dreams1973
10-11-10, 12:41
Thanks to everybody for having ansered me. It is the first time in Bangkok for me and definetely I will take a taxy directly from the airport. I understood that it is the easier way. Thanks
I am sure there has been much debate on here about the future of Soi 4 and the NEP, but has anyone heard anything about the other side of the road?
On my last visit I was getting my hair cut on Suk. Soi 5 using a bg friend as a translator.
Apparently the owner of the Amari on Soi 5 has bought everything between Soi 5 and Soi 7 at the Suk. End to redevelop into a new hotel. Businesses (including the Soi 7 Beergarden) have got 4 years to relocate. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks,
John
Philosophery
10-11-10, 16:14
So I went to Soi Cowboy last night with my girl friend from Philippines.
Okay no surprise but hardly any girls seemed friendly towards her.
And she is into girls very much. And she is always smiling. Also wearing a dress with no underwear for one or two girls that smiled at her she opened her legs and showed them her pussy so did she scare them?
Seems like last year there were a few more girl friendly girls on soi cowboy anybody find any bars with bi girls or lesbians in nana or soi cowboy we found a girl on soi 7/1 at a gogo next to eden club she was not girl friendly but liked me and then we had a good time but my girl friend was left out I guess we go back to Pattaya to find more girls that are into girls.Go to Suzy Wongs. There are a couple of girls there that are Lesbians (they do the shows) and they prefer girls.
Cdndriftwood
10-11-10, 18:52
Thailand the land of smiles. Should be the land of the vertical smile. Was in Bangkok for only about 48 hours. Stayed at Livingstones. Just can't beat Giotto and crew. Great location the Jr Suite with the bath tub for two really improved the performance of the local talent. Just jump into the tub with the jets on. Lots of bubble bath. Champagne
Did go to Eden there had been so many positive reviews and it is a great place to spend an afternoon. Eden should be listed in the 7 sexual wonders in the world. With 18 Spa in Macau.
Cowboy is fun but the good news of the Japanese being in Bangkok is they are paying the talent more. Sol 33 by Livingstones has several little clubs for the Japanese. Picked up a girl on the street on her way to work. Took her for short time and it was so good made a deal to pick her up at 1:00 AM. For the night. The sports bar at Livingstones is always good.
SirMarjAlot
10-11-10, 20:16
That girl from Soi 7 looks very familiar, I would almost swear that EvelPenievel has posted pics of her, not the same ones mind you, a few months ago. Maybe you guys are "Peter In Laws." Anyhow, she is very cute, good for you!it would not surprise me if it was the same girl as PenEvil is or was a regular visitor of the Eden which is almost next door, so you would not miss her.
I have some more pics of her here
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/SirMarjAlot/BangkokAugust2010#
Enjoy. She was a lovely girl, mostly older woman down soi 7,1
it would not surprise me if it was the same girl as PenEvil is or was a regular visitor of the Eden which is almost next door, so you would not miss her.
I have some more pics of her here
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/SirMarjAlot/BangkokAugust2010#
Enjoy. She was a lovely girl, mostly older woman down soi 7,1
Great pics. Sure brought back a lot of (horny) memories!! It's like a home away from home - only WITH sex! :-). Thanks for posting.
Would like the Bkk experts to help a BKK newbie in here to make the most of his time. I'll arrive on a Friday at the end of the month and I'd like to know what are the best gogos to go for a first timer and the ones to avoid. Also, any suggestions/recommendations/tips for good clubs to go party on the weekend would be highly appreciated. Also, if anyone will be in town for the last weekend of October and would like to hang out, have a drink or two and go party together at the clubs/gogos, let me know.
Sprite,
If you are a first timer and interested in go-go bars, you should try Nana Entertainment Plaza (Sukhumvit soi 4) or Soi Cowboy (soi 19). As for avoiding, I suggest avoiding Patpong area (tourist trap). If you don't have a hotel already, try to get one on Sukhumvit - many of them there. You must visit Gullivers on Soi 5 and Beergarden on Soi 7 for freelancers during day time. Also try Bangkok Beat on Soi 7.1 for night time freelancer pick ups. PM me if you want more info. First time in BKK - you will be BEYOND a kid ina candy store.
Cheers.
Crypton
Mealticket
10-12-10, 03:52
Apparently the owner of the Amari on Soi 5 has bought everything between Soi 5 and Soi 7 at the Suk. End to redevelop into a new hotel. Businesses (including the Soi 7 Beergarden) have got 4 years to relocate. Can anyone confirm this?Let's hope so
Really is the end of the world over there (now).
... Soi Cowboy (soi 19)...
Actually, Soi Cowboy is located between Sukhumvit Soi 21 and Sukhumvit Soi 23.
I know Chinatown area well, can be hit or miss but has good access to MRT. I also have been to Kampheng phet, night drive to check out the scene.
Outside of Chinatown, what other areas for FL pick ups.
I like Chinatown in that it has a fairly good daytime scene:)
Prefer places near bts/mrt.
Chris Neon
10-12-10, 10:09
I've read about the check bin scam in Deja Vu before and last night it happend to me to. They charge you 2 or 3 times as many lady drinks as you buy and no use in putting up an arguement.
Stay away.
Shite, 1K for ST at Rawhide, either business is horrible, the girl is a newbie or you have terrible hearing! J/K, sorry you didn't have the energy to go for it. I haven't heard many stories about guys getting ST for 1K from any gogo for a long time.
No problem with my hearing, I took her before for 1.5K (she said 2K, I said 1.5K, she jumped to get her clothes), when I came back a few days later, she nestled up to me and offered the 1K. I guess she saw I'm a butterfly and if she wants a second pass she has to sweeten the deal.
I guess you don't hear more because guys are bloody stupid and don't open their mouths to quote a number. I'm not talking bargaining. To get to 1.5K I've never had to say more than "neung pahn haa roi OK mai?". Maybe the girls will also play more hardball with a tourist who only has a couple of days.
She is a newbie in a sense ... she's 18 or 19. She isn't a raving beauty (she should lose some kilos), but she has a very sexy naughty face, with lovely smooth white skin.
Strange about the mamasan doing the groping???
It was really more of a boob grab as she walked by.
The waitress was yanking down the bikini bottoms of passing dancers.
Outside of Chinatown, what other areas for FL pick ups.
Prefer places near bts/mrt.
Lumphini Park, on the side of the Suan Lum Night Bazaar. It looked rather sparse on the occasions when I strolled by, and I haven't heard any good reports, just many warnings.
Sanam Luang at night (yes, far from BTS), on the side away from the sketchy pavement market.
Lumphini Park, on the side of the Suan Lum Night Bazaar. It looked rather sparse on the occasions when I strolled by, and I haven't heard any good reports, just many warnings.
Sanam Luang at night (yes, far from BTS), on the side away from the sketchy pavement market.Thanks, heard about Lumphini but haven't really checked it out yet..just went running there from time to time.
Do you happen to know any decent motels in the area?
I know Chinatown area well, can be hit or miss but has good access to MRT. I also have been to Kampheng phet, night drive to check out the scene.
Outside of Chinatown, what other areas for FL pick ups.
I like Chinatown in that it has a fairly good daytime scene:)
Prefer places near bts/mrt.I have stayed in the china town area. I've never seen any Freelancers there. Or maybe i am just not aware of how they operate in this area, guess they'll be more ''undercover''. Do u mean the small sidestreets of yaowarat, like the one with texas cafe massage?
What does one have to look out for to spot those Freelancers? and how to approach?
Sorry if these are obvious questions for you veterans, but i don't have much experience with the streetscene. I'd love to indulge in these activities cuz it seems more exciting than the safe mp's and bars.
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