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With all this talk about prices I was reading an article online yesterday that a street worker in Bangladesh is US $0. 60 or 60 cents. Haven't heard of much cheaper than that.And I can imagine the price police will be in action the minute somebody will admit having paid US$ 0. 99. As the market will be spoiled, being well over 50% the ongoing rate.
Interesting comments.
100% accurate. Thais spend billions of dollars on skin whitening products just to have the illusion of being white. Ridiculous, but that's the culture.
I live here in Bangkok in the Sukhumvit area.
The majority of non-tourist black people I observe milling arount in the streets of Sukhumvit are from Nigeria and other west Africa countries. They basically hang around slinging drugs (men) or street hooking (women.)
Regarding P4P, the majority of the Thai working girls here may still have problems dealing with men of color. The only color they should be concerned with is the color of green or in case of the 1000 baht note, cream. That's their hangup. The Russian bitches who are here might be a better option. Not sure. I stay clear of those types.
Male tourists who are black can find all sorts of cheap trim on Soi 4 Sukhumvit adjacent to Nana Hotel starting at about 1:00AM. Place is choke full of hot looking cheap young working girls at that hour. Easy picking.
Tony Hoeprano
03-25-12, 00:45
Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?Friday evening between 5PM-7PM just hang out at the Asoke BTS stop and you'll see hundreds of beautiful MILF's getting off work. Good luck Mr Goa.
Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?Just go to the Beer Garden on Soi 7. Lots of 30ish women in there.
I am sure any one of them will tell you they work in an office, if you like. ;)
Member #4378
03-25-12, 03:56
Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?Many uzbek / Russian girls by Grace hotel are in their 30s and they will tell you that they have office jobs back home.
I got the same impression about Hollywood 2 days back.
Hifly.
Nana bars where I regularly get girls for 1500 ST:
Spanky.
Mandarin.
Erotica (2d or 3d floor)
Share yours.
On a different note, I went into Hollywood in Nana today, it is just me or do the girls look and behave like ladyboys?
East Asians are foreigners.
You're talking about the square meters of buildings. What does that have to do with anything?
Thais are not spending the money on nightlife that farangs are. You've said nothing to refute that.How long have you lived in Bangkok for? East Asians are not considered Farangs! You did not say foreigners in your argument, you said Farangs. Give it up! Every place I go I see Thais spending more money. Again 3500 Baht is not an example of upper class. Places like Nataree, Tulip, Annies, and other massage places are not upper class. We were never discussing Thai G clubs, but places like Soi Cowboy, Nataree, and most of the average massage places. Still waiting for your photos of the cheap, young, and gorgeous ass you got for 500 BAHT, or are your photos too average LOL.
Just go to the Beer Garden on Soi 7. Lots of 30ish women in there.
I am sure any one of them will tell you they work in an office, if you like. .Actually Thailand is a place where office girls sometimes like to suppliment their income. There is a blurring of the division between hookers and office girls, because lots of part time hookers exist. In the west, girls go pick up a guy but do it for "free". In Thailand the girls may be short of money, so why not go pick up a guy and suppliment their low office pay as well. O.K. Its possible that some of these girls eventually give up their office job if the returns from the other method are better. I do understand that some girls may also bullshit that they work in an office, but real office girls hooking do exist. Most girls I met met myself doing a little freelance, also had other jobs, like shop assistant, telephone switchboard operator, factory worker, etc. I don't claim to have had many office workers myself but aware they exist. If you ask the girls, some will know who is an office worker. Some office girls become MP workers part time in the evening. Some do escort work. I don't use escorts myself for various reasons. Alternatively you might be able to find girls that dress like an office worker and maybe that is good enough for your fantasy. For me, looks and performance matters more than how intellegent she is and her social standing.
Some guys just don't get it!
No such thing as hot looking cheap and young. LOL.Actually, the parking lot last night at 1130 did have a fairly impressive array of hot, cheap, and young. However their attitudes leave loads to be desired. The majority of them want to go across the street for all of ten minutes and deliver starfish impersonations, so at 1000 a pop, actually not the best of deals.
All this talk of farang this vs thai this complain about price blahblahblah.
In case you haven't figured out WHY farangs complain about price:
They come to Thailand as a CHEAP (er) mongering destination.
The local thai guys. They are locals, obviously they are not complaining about the prices because THEY travel somewhere else for CHEAP mongering.
As for koreans and japanese, do they complain? You bet your ass they do, just not on ISG as this is generally an english speakers website.
If you think thai men, Hong kong guys, Chinese guys, korean guys, japanese guys, every country and every language guys do not have their own version of ISG where they complain about the exact same things including price and service. Well, I might just have pretty young beautiful girl waiting for you at the end of this dark alley!
The cycle goes on and on, sadly, I am leaving the Bangkok thread. In a place where the P4P scene is so open, theres nothing to discuss except for price vs service and the inevitable decline of one and the awful increase of the other. Until another spot becomes the new favorite.
I hear the mongering in africa is good.The reason the Thai guys don't complain is because at most of their venues, they get good service, it is expected and guaranteed. At most of the Thai massage places I frequent, you get at least 2 pops in 2 hours, and the girls don't spend time telling you what you can't do. Contrast that with Sukhumvit girls who ask for more money (Thai massage places on Phetburi run 1300-1900 all in for 2 hours, whereas Cowboy and Nana you will be fighting to get 1500 ST plus the lady drinks plus the barfine of 6-700) and then come home and pull the starfish or jakajee or yai maak jep routine. And obviously in the Sukhumvit scene, plenty of guys must put up with it because the girls know they can get away with it. I once had a non performer in a Thai massage place. I promptly picked up the phone, called the papasan, and within 5 minutes, I had a new girl in the room.
Franco Cozzo
03-25-12, 07:54
ok, it's long overdue for me to write the trip report for my january bkk and pattaya trip. before i forget all of the details, and before i go back over easter:
i'm breaking report into chunks, as otherwise the post will fill most of a page. so, here is the first night and second day:
after arriving in late in bangkok fairly late at night, i met with a friend made through thaifriendly at my hotel. she was fairly attractive (but not to the standard i would date back home) , also in her early to mid 30s, and in a fairly well paying (for thailand) office job. i was surprised (and pleased) that she had an overnight bag packed to stay over, as she did not seem that forward on webcam chats we had done up to that stage. she gave me a welcome gift, took me out to a late dinner (her shout, even though i insisted) , then for drinks to meet some of her friends. most of the conversations from her friends were about how young and handsome i am (true to an extent, but not close to the extent they were saying) , and how great their friend was if i was looking for a thai girlfriend. the night was fun, and although i tried to be generous with drinks, i did not spend too much money as the girls kept also insisting on buying rounds as well.
later, back at my hotel we did not get past kissing and groping before she said she was not the kind of girl to "go all the way on a first date" (which she really did not seem to be (she was only on thaifriendly for about 3 weeks before complaining that most men just contacted her to try and have sex-cam chats) , though it could also have been seeing my pasty white body semi-naked that put her off. hopefully she didn't tell her friends if this was the case) , so we went to sleep. the next morning we had breakfast in the executive lounge of the hotel i was staying (a nice luxury property) , and knowing that i was only in town briefly, asked what i was doing for the rest of the few days i was there. i made an excuse of meeting with ex-pat friends later that day, but said i would meet up with her and go to the zoo (her idea) the day before my late flight out of bkk (i had truly meant to keep this catch up, but earlier on the day i we had set i had trouble getting through to her phone, and by the time she called back (about 9 times. scary) , i was already busy with other less innocent pursuits).
anyway, after breakfast and saying goodbye, i decided to visit sol (star of light for newbies) , as my hotel was in the patpong area, and i had serious blue balls. it was my first time to the patpong strip (on purpose) , and after a bit of difficulty locating the bar and checking google maps, i realised i was standing out the front of it (the signage is only obvious when coming from suk, and i was a little hungover and jetlagged). sol looked fairly closed, but just as i went to walk off a mid to late 30s lady came rushing out, and asked me to "come in for fun". i was offered a drink, and had the sol prices and services explained to me (i was surprised that there were no curtains under the bar-top, as this was what i thought i had read quite a few times). there was only this lady and one other early 40s lady available, neither terribly attractive. but knowing that looks don't always translate to the amount of fun that can be had, i decided to stay. the 30s lady was quite plump. not obese, but larger than chubby, and from memory was a 5. 6 facewise, but seemed enthusiastic. although the bar was empty, i decided to utilise the bathroom rather than one of the very-non-private benches for my first sol blow'and'go.
the bbbj was excellent, especially at the 700 thb price tag, and being able to take the occasional swig of beer whilst it happened. not quite eye-crossing, knee-weakening, about-to-pass-out good like my first [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) bj (with an early 20s girl, and a solid 8/10 face and body) , but not too far off. even though i had blue balls from the night before (and from not getting laid for a few weeks before the trip) , and i was shaking with pleasure (very rare for bjs for me) , it was not a 5 minute blow like i was expecting for my first monger back. the lady even offered an upgrade to fs at a discount (an extra 200 thb) if i was not enjoying the bj enough after about 20 mins. i said no, that it was really good, and kept going until blowing. at first in her mouth, then down her tits and on her face (blue balls do have some advantages, like plenty of ammo). i thanked her, finished my beer, tipped a couple of hundred thb and said i'd be back after she said anal was also available with some ladies there including herself.
later in the day, after moving to my next booked hotel which was more accessible to the sukhimvit line, i decided to also visit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). i chose the cutest girl available out the front, and after the usual cold wet-wipe wi****wn she got down to business. her technique was much more standard. though still better than most non-thai women (fls and regular girls) , and she started with far too little skin showing, though the very cute face bobbing up and down was still making me thankful again of being in thailand. after asking whether it was ok to touch her (i'm somewhat of a gentleman) , as i did not think i would blow just from her clothed oral, she took all clothing off revealing a killer little body, amazing hard and long nipples, and a very smooth and wet muff, all of which she was more than happy to let me play with, and would move to accomodate whatever i was reaching for. the combination of thes helped a huge amount, and i was done within 5 minutes of her disrobing (i'd have been embarrassed if it wasn't a paid encounter). as i really wanted to experience being inside her amazing body, whilst biting on and playing with those amazing nipples, i asked if she was available for fs. she said that there is a room upstairs if i wanted to come back for st another day. i believe it was around 400 thb for the room hire, and 1200 thb for her (though can't quite remember) , and said which days and times she was available. i left, though forgot to tip (i don't usually tip at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) unless it was amazing anyway) , and 5 minutes later cursed myself for not trying to get her number for possible fl action instead. the girl would have been early 20s. 7.8 face. 9 body (though in miniature size) , and it was the usual 700 thb, no drink bought.
Actually Thailand is a place where office girls sometimes like to suppliment their income. (snip)One of the he woman I met the other night in the Beer Garden said her day job was raising frogs.
She was quite hot, too. Didn't smell like a frog farmer. ;)
Wolvenvacht
03-25-12, 08:08
One of the he woman I met the other night in the Beer Garden said her day job was raising frogs.
She was quite hot, too. Didn't smell like a frog farmer. .How does a frog farmer smell? How would you know? .
How does a frog farmer smell? How would you know? .I used to catch frogs.
Franco Cozzo
03-25-12, 10:11
bkk2.
second night and third day:
after enjoying a few too many complimentary martinis and food at the second hotel's lounge, i decided to take a quick nap, with the plan of heading down to soi cowboy via the skyrail around 9ish. unfortunately, the drinks helped me to sleep through my alarm, and i awoke closer to midnight, so caught a taxi instead.
after having the taxi driver try to convince me to go to soi nana to a bar he recommends instead (read: gets kickbacks from), which i assured him i had visited many times (i hadn't, and if i remember what it is, i'll stay away because of this); then having him take me a convoluted way to soi cowboy (i told him the extra money he made taking me the long way was less than i would have tipped him), my night wasn't starting well.
deciding i needed a cigarette and a drink, i made a beeline for baccara, where it didn't take too long to get a seat and a good view of some amazing talent. although disappointed that the pleated-short-skirt and open-white shirt brigade were not on, my night started to get better when a cute gogo girl i had barfined last trip came over and started lavishing me with attention. a lady-drink later and she was asking if i wanted to "take her home". as my night had just started, and the girls on stage had removed clothes and were putting on a good show, i decided not to take her yet, so she went back to dancing. this was possibly a mistake, as a few drinks later she had been barfined by another punter.
for the next hour or so i bought another few lds, but was quoted 3000 thb lt from two girls (they were not as good as the girls i had got for 2000-2500 thb last trip, would not negotiate below 3k, and said definitely no cameras); and 1500 thb st from another girl who was amazing, but would not do lt. i decided i would come back later if i had no luck elsewhere, and checked out a few other gogos before deciding to go for a wander to walk off some alcohol.
at one of the tiny street-bars just outside soi cowboy, a cute girl grabbed my hand as i walked past, and pressed it to her ass in a cheeky way. i turned around, she kissed me, and asked me for a drink. i asked the price of lds, which was fairly cheap, so i agreed. her personality was cheeky more than sexy, which i liked, and in the dim light, she looked very sexy. after we finished our drink, i asked her how much to come back to my hotel, and whether she would allow photos. she said 2000 thb lt, and photos were fine, as long as i didn't put her face all over the internet (as did many of the girls this trip, hence me censoring my photos unlike in the past). as we were leaving, the bartender (a very manly looking lb) said i needed to pay a barfine. i laughed, as it was not a real bar; he said it was only 300 thb, so i payed and grabbed a taxi.
when back at my hotel, in better light, i could see she didn't have great skin with a few old zit scars on her face and back, and what appeared to be an old c-section scar. but despite these flaws still was quite attractive (see pictures to be the judge). she also had an amazing, skinny-type body (i like this body type, as well as athletic and curvaceous, depending on the woman), and kept her cheeky and rebellious attitude, which made for a mostly fun night.
the only real problem i had with the night was that on the second round of sex after a few hours sleep, she kept trying to put me inside her without a condom (which i sternly refused, i don't bareback except for oral); and on the third round the next morning, she grabbed onto the bottom of the condom whilst we were going hammer and tongs, which made it tear. i pulled out immediately (and was fortunately still covered where it counts), and told her off. she said "it ok, i'm clean, we no need condom", i said hell no, and was going to get her to leave straight away, but my libido got the better of me, so i put another condom on and finished.
later in the day, i decided to go out mongering one last time before leaving los for a couple of weeks. after dropping into a couple of nana beer bars, but not finding anyone i wanted to bf for st, i went back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). the girl from my previous visit wasn't there, so i chose the cutest girl available (about a 6 face, 8 body), and got a serviceable bbbj. i am surprised at how much the quality of the girls (looks and technique) varies between visits. sometimes it is hard to choose, as lots of the girls are hot, other times they are all very average.
i have attached a few non-action shots of the street-bar girl to this post; more pics (including x-rated) and screen grabs from videos taken will be put into photo gallery thread when i have edited them.
I think gentleboner needs some motivation. Still no photos. I will post my BKK collection of average girls as Gentle puts it with the hope that he can top it with pictures of his own.
Oops I forgot more photos for you. I really look forward to yours Gentleboner. I want to see what I am missing and also what you can teach me about mongering in Bangkok.
Cheers!
How many "upper class" farang visit Thailand for pussy? Maybe six.
It is obvious you know very little about what actually goes on in Thailand beyond Soi Bright Lights, and are just a persistent troll. .I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich.
The man with the nice watch and brand name clothes is often the poor one. Not the rich one.
I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich.
The man with the nice watch and brand name clothes is often the poor one. Not the rich one.Amen to that one. I want to keep the money I have. No need to impress anyone.
I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich.So based on that logic, we can assume that you are actually pennyless and merely claim to be rich, not that anyone actually gives a rat's ass. Its good to dress appropriately in Thailand for the situation. Many of us don't need to appear anything at all when it comes to income or wealth. Sometimes the "rich" appear excessively mean or stingy. I don't think Fon Tok was refering to "millionaires" so he wasn't counting you in the 6.
Member #4643
03-25-12, 20:50
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, but from what I have read on the board, the scene in Changmai is not so great. Indeed, the last year's worth of postings make Changmai out to be more like Iowa than Thailand (my apologies in advance to the Iowans who read this board). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.
Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to find a traveling companion? Would it be to go to a bar and find a compatible girl to invite? Try and make an offer on a dating site (all of the dating sites have some girls who are really P4P; I have already gotten some names of dating sites that are pretty good) ; or "other".
Thanks F.
P. S. Should anyone have the name of a reasonably GFE traveling companion, be she pro, non-pro or something in between, feel free to share! I promise to treat her with respect.
Wolvenvacht
03-25-12, 21:31
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, (snip). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.Unless you have met the girl "in the flesh" it is always and everywhere a bit of a hit or miss matter. I had some good experience with girls I met on DIA, but I had one who disappeared at the very last moment too. If you trawl the bars in Bangkok, you can try and find someone from Chiang Mai who can show you around in her hometown, but it is always advised to first sample her before committing yourself.
I think gentleboner needs some motivation. Still no photos. I will post my BKK collection of average girls as Gentle puts it with the hope that he can top it with pictures of his own.First round of photos in challenge 1 did not upload for some reason so I will post the links to the photo thread for our friend Gentle to see. I look forward to his reports with his photos and how he did them all for free or 500 Baht.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1261614#post1261614
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1261616#post1261616
GentleBoner
03-26-12, 01:38
Oops I forgot more photos for you. I really look forward to yours Gentleboner. I want to see what I am missing and also what you can teach me about mongering in Bangkok.
Cheers!Not impressed.
But I don't post photos of girls I sleep with. Sorry.
GentleBoner
03-26-12, 02:08
So based on that logic, we can assume that you are actually pennyless and merely claim to be rich, not that anyone actually gives a rat's ass. Its good to dress appropriately in Thailand for the situation. Many of us don't need to appear anything at all when it comes to income or wealth. Sometimes the "rich" appear excessively mean or stingy. I don't think Fon Tok was refering to "millionaires" so he wasn't counting you in the 6.
But he knew you were going to use his own logic to conclude that he's actually poor. Which means he wanted to look poor. So really he's rich.
Honestly I've found it's always best to dress modestly as a white person visiting poorer countries. You can look nice and modest. But wearing anything flashy is like putting a target on your chest.
Try this. You might find some companions. I did find one, but did not work out at the last moment.
http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/trv/
Hifly.
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, but from what I have read on the board, the scene in Changmai is not so great. Indeed, the last year's worth of postings make Changmai out to be more like Iowa than Thailand (my apologies in advance to the Iowans who read this board). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.
Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to find a traveling companion? Would it be to go to a bar and find a compatible girl to invite? Try and make an offer on a dating site (all of the dating sites have some girls who are really P4P; I have already gotten some names of dating sites that are pretty good) ; or "other".
Thanks F.
P. S. Should anyone have the name of a reasonably GFE traveling companion, be she pro, non-pro or something in between, feel free to share! I promise to treat her with respect.
Turnover27
03-26-12, 03:52
Are they nice places close to the Hyatt hotel?
I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich. The man with the nice watch and brand name clothes is often the poor one. Not the rich one.No worries. I was not thinking about you when I fictitiously mentioned the 6 or 8 "upper class" farang guys who GB thinks spend more than the Thai playboys, and somehow tilt the revenue generation model for entire TH entertainment industry.
I consider you to be in a one man group. The "Pro class." You've more than established that on this forum, many times.
Sort of like James Bond with a fake Omega, camo shorts, and flip flops. We just never see you when you are in TH.
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, but from what I have read on the board, the scene in Changmai is not so great. Indeed, the last year's worth of postings make Changmai out to be more like Iowa than Thailand (my apologies in advance to the Iowans who read this board). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.Its only one day, so you don't really need to take someone with you for such a short time. It is possible to get a fuck in CM, e. G. Go to Soapy Massage parlour in Chiangmai. I would only take a girl with me if knew her well already. E. G. A bar girl that you get on well with and already have spent time with her in BKK a couple of times.
In China they have these little shops where the girls sit around waiting for customers to take them in the back for a very quick half and half or sometimes just a FS. Its a nice service for when you're in a hurry. Cost is 100-150 yuan (500-700 baht, for those of you without a currency converter) depending on your negotiating abilities.
Anything similar in the LOS? Sure there's the soapies and the 1-2 hour massage places and the BJ bars. But I'm just wondering if there's quick and cheap FS.
Now of course, Dr. BJ and others offer FS, but the price is ridiculous.
Anything interesting services in Chinatown?
Franco Cozzo
03-26-12, 08:50
Please stop posting photos. There are other threads for that. Are you guys deliberately trying to keep guys away from Thailand to keep the prices low.
The girls are getting uglier and uglier. If thats possible. LOL.Harold, please stop trolling and how about contributing something useful to this forum?
I have a 15 hour layover in Bangkok on a Thurs night. I don't get in until 11:30P though. What would be my best bet? Looks like Soi Cowboy is open until around 2:30, Nightclubs later, soapies closed. I have been to Nana plaza a few years back and enjoyed it, but that is all I have done. Yes I have RTFF, but the search feature is not working correctly for me after I log in. Gives me links that are to wrong posts. No idea why, but research is a little challenging and trip fastly approaching.I would make sure to book a hotel right on Sukhumvit close to whichever of Nana or Cowboy that you aim to hit immediately. Either should work fine for your needs. I usuallly fly in at that time, and I literally throw my bag in the room, super quick shower, fresh clothes and head straight out the door to maximize my first night there. Jet lag and all. There's nothing like that culture shock of, within a short time, moving from a cramped airline seat to one in a Rainbow bar. Insomnia disco is along that stretch between NP and SC, as is Thermae, and both those are worth a visit at late hours. With that small window of time on my first night, I might even (for example) walk into Thermae and instantly decide whether its worth sticking around and exploring or not. If not I just head back up the stairs and move on to the next place, which would probably be one of the gogo bar areas. For maximum effect of being overwhelmed and culture-shocked, one of the huge bars like Rainbow 4 in Nana or Baccara in SC can't fail.
Please stop posting photos. There are other threads for that. Are you guys deliberately trying to keep guys away from Thailand to keep the prices low.
The girls are getting uglier and uglier. If thats possible. LOL.Every girl I posted here and in the photo gallery is better looking than most or all in the photo gallery. I think you and gentleboner need to get together in the Nana parking lot. I think you can find a girl that will give you a 2 for 1 special since you probably can't afford much else. LOL
Traveler1234
03-26-12, 16:57
Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to find a traveling companion? Would it be to go to a bar and find a compatible girl to invite? Try and make an offer on a dating site (all of the dating sites have some girls who are really P4P; I have already gotten some names of dating sites that are pretty good) ; or "other".Any working girl would luv to take a day trip or overnight trip with you, all expenses paid. Like others have posted, best to test drive her out to make sure she's the right gal. No need to use dating sites, find someone at one of the go-go bars or oilies. If you enjoy your night with them, ask them to accompany you. Make sure to agree on the finances before hand.
FWIW, Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a sports bar on onsite. Ask for Giotto or visit the Livingstone Lodge thread for more details. Gals there often travel with clients.
Any working girl would luv to take a day trip or overnight trip with you, all expenses paid.Not correct, while some girls like it, many do not, for various reasons. Boyfriend in Bangkok, more money with less hassle with short times, etc.
Please stop posting photos. There are other threads for that. Are you guys deliberately trying to keep guys away from Thailand to keep the prices low.
The girls are getting uglier and uglier. If thats possible. LOL.The rest of us are only amused that you think you are funny. There is nothing wrong with posting pics in this thread. We typically get a better standard than in the Photographs thread. You could ignore them or just ignore this thread completely. I ignore the Photos thread these days because I got bored with it.
Not correct, while some girls like it, many do not, for various reasons. Boyfriend in Bangkok, more money with less hassle with short times, etc.Have to agree. Some working girls have to do a shift of looking after their baby, where the Thai boyfriend is often long gone. Some girls still even live with their parents, although this should be rare. Some girls claim that they cannot sleep at night time and only sleep during the day (fishy story). However plenty of girls are still available. Some say they can't go away when actually they can. One bargirl recently told me about the customer who wanted to take her to Hong Kong, the money was good, but she still didn't want to go, because she didn't want marathon sex with little or no sleep. She had originally told me she didn't do LT, but later it turned out she did, once I became a regular. Girls have rules but they do break them too.
FWIW, Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a sports bar on onsite. Ask for Giotto or visit the Livingstone Lodge thread for more details. Gals there often travel with clients.Did you take any away yourself? Were they good enough to hold your full attention for several days? I suspect that the best ones may be heavily booked up.
In China they have these little shops where the girls sit around waiting for customers to take them in the back for a very quick half and half or sometimes just a FS. Its a nice service for when you're in a hurry. Cost is 100-150 yuan (500-700 baht, for those of you without a currency converter) depending on your negotiating abilities.
Anything similar in the LOS? Sure there's the soapies and the 1-2 hour massage places and the BJ bars. But I'm just wondering if there's quick and cheap FS.
Now of course, Dr. BJ and others offer FS, but the price is ridiculous.
Anything interesting services in Chinatown?Quick and cheap FS? Sure, it's called freelancers, such as in the Nana Parking Lot or Beergarden in BKK, or Pattaya Beach Road SWs. If your hotel is located with these ladies just outside the door or within a block or two, then it is very quick, depending on how quick you are to walk & shoot your load. Prices are usually in the 500 or 1000 Baht range, depending on the girl, the town and the pickup spot. If you have cell numbers, then it may be even quicker to call a FL up to your room.
Every girl I posted here and in the photo gallery is better looking than most or all in the photo gallery. I think you and gentleboner need to get together in the Nana parking lot. I think you can find a girl that will give you a 2 for 1 special since you probably can't afford much else. LOLYour two posts of photos did have about 2 or 3 ladies that would be of interest to me, although over the last 5 years I have found many of this quality at the Nana Parking Lot (NPL). While often there can be uglies at the NPL that I wouldn't go with for free, if one is lucky enough to be there at the right moment you can also find a number of attractive girls willing to go with guys ST for a measly 1000 baht.
In the following link you posted 9 pics, including 4 of one TG named Nung. What stood out to me here was a few of the ladies appear to be quite white, which is something I like & is very rare to find at the NPL. In fact I can't ever recall seeing one there as white looking as those pics, though perhaps they are not the same in person. Although once in the past half a decade I did see a snow white SW in the vicinity.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1261620#post1261620
Of the 9 pics I think number two with the shades, who looks like she might be up for some FK, seems to be my type. Namely young slim pretty with coloured hair. While the face looks white, her neck & arms appear as a more typical tan Thai colour. I'd definitely pick up this girl if she were in the NPL, & I have found those of comparable quality in looks there on many occasions.
While busty ladies are also a type that interests me, we don't really see what assets Nun has in that regard as per a nude pic. In the NPL, OTOH, I've found a few naturally very large bosomed females over the years, not katoys (ladyboys) , including one who was quite beautiful, thick lipped with & wearing a nurse's uniform. Speaking of uniforms, BTW, I've also encountered the slim young type who looked very sexy in her school girl outfit.
In your other post of photos you gave us 10 images to look at. For me number 6 clearly stands out from and miles above all the rest, who are not much to write home about. While I prefer big lips for BBBJs and kissing, this petite oriental looking doll more than makes up for that with her very cute slim face, pretty eyes, & gorgeous hair. She reminds me of two girls I was boinking last year, one from NPL and the other an ex NPLer from the Beergarden.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1261614#post1261614
Finally your pic number 1 in the set of 9 is also worthy of honourable mention. Overall I'd agree the 19 photos offer much more than the typical photo thread offerings. And as such are IMO giving pooners a better idea what they'll come across in BKK, should they be enquiring whether or not to holiday here.
Traveler1234
03-26-12, 23:58
Did you take any away yourself? Were they good enough to hold your full attention for several days? I suspect that the best ones may be heavily booked up.I didn't mean to imply it's 'easy, snap your fingers' and they come like crazy. That's why I said talk with Giotto, the owner [or better yet, his better half, she'll know much better]. There are no best ones; everyone has different tastes, etc. You know better than anyone I suspect, right?
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing
He said for one day, not multiple days. If I was going for more than a night or two, would be hesitant to take along unless I really knew the gal [and I almost never want to get to know them real well]!
And if you have some positive ideas, we're all ears.....
Quick and cheap FS? Sure, it's called freelancers, such as in the Nana Parking Lot or Beergarden in BKK, or Pattaya Beach Road SWs. If your hotel is located with these ladies just outside the door or within a block or two, then it is very quick, depending on how quick you are to walk & shoot your load. Prices are usually in the 500 or 1000 Baht range, depending on the girl, the town and the pickup spot. If you have cell numbers, then it may be even quicker to call a FL up to your room.Beer Garden. As in the night club on Sukh. 19?
Tony Hoeprano
03-27-12, 04:50
Hello, guys, just planning my next holiday in SE Asia (Thailand) , what's Bangkok like during Songran? I've found a great price on airfare, but its right before songran. Not sure if I should take it or not, I hear the girls leave for the sticks and you end up getting wet everywhere you go LOL I could just take a detour in Macau though.
Fast Eddie 48
03-27-12, 05:34
In China they have these little shops where the girls sit around waiting for customers to take them in the back for a very quick half and half or sometimes just a FS. Its a nice service for when you're in a hurry. Cost is 100-150 yuan (500-700 baht, for those of you without a currency converter) depending on your negotiating abilities.
Anything similar in the LOS? Sure there's the soapies and the 1-2 hour massage places and the BJ bars. But I'm just wondering if there's quick and cheap FS.
Now of course, Dr. BJ and others offer FS, but the price is ridiculous.
Anything interesting services in Chinatown?To Muffinman
I was in China and Thaikand last month did check out BBK chinatown didn't see any SW 2 yr ago I saw some low quality SW from mainland China working the st very cheap 500 bht a pop, I think you are looking for BBS action like in Shenzhen and Guangzhou but in Bangkok is mostly massage place and fish bowl that you pick the girl no take out FS is done onsite, you can go to bar or gogo bar to pick up girl bring back to hotel but it will cost alot more than 150 rmb.
Fast Eddie 48
He said for one day, not multiple days. If I was going for more than a night or two, would be hesitant to take along unless I really knew the gal [and I almost never want to get to know them real well]!
And if you have some positive ideas, we're all ears.I was asking about if you tried it yourself and found it to be good. I guess you didn't take any away yourself. Could be risky.
Just 1 day is hardly worth it. I already mentioned I have only ever taken away girls that I knew really quite well. 3 in all to Chiang Mai but two were in GF status, and not from LL. Had a fairly good time with girl I knew least well, but I had to be very careful not to cause issues many years ago when just starting to learn about Thai ways and manners. I wasn't as classy (not refering to money) as what she expected from me, even though she was a working girl.
This post is sort of Bangkok because we are talking abouting picking up a girl in Bangkok. A side note to the guy complaining about lack of relevance in posts.
This thread needs some attention. I'm a bit disappointed to see what's going on here. This thread is for Bangkok Reports.And you want to talk about cheap China knocking shops, and complain sex is too expensive here? Bier Garten is in Sukhumvit Soi 7, I think. Post a Bangkok experience report yourself!
Wolvenvacht
03-27-12, 06:34
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeingI doubt if it would be worth it. It is quite a trip from Bangkok to Chiang May: it will take you the better part of the day, unless you go by night train or night bus, but then you arrive quite tired. One day in Chiang Mai = three days away, so you will need to find a companion for three days which will add to the cost.
And you want to talk about cheap China knocking shops, and complain sex is too expensive here? Bier Garten is in Sukhumvit Soi 7, I think. Post a Bangkok experience report yourself!Thanks.
Went to Snow White awhile back. In Jan. Rang up Belle for 2 hours. That's 700 for the massage fee and 1500 for FS. The service was spectacular and her spoken English is good. No tattoos, breasts a little saggy. She has a kid. But she seemed happy to fill any request. And she's literally very flexible. She started right away with anal rimming. Did I say rimming. More like probing. Then she pulled out 6 condoms and placing them up on the bed. She asked how many shots I wanted. I said two and stayed for three. She has great charisma and likes to chat during rests. Yet eager to get back to business. Missionary, doggie style, cowgirl. She's a seasoned pro.
We were late getting downstairs and I had to pay for another half hour.
All in all a great time. Was totally wiped out afterwards.
I doubt if it would be worth it. It is quite a trip from Bangkok to Chiang May: it will take you the better part of the day, unless you go by night train or night bus, but then you arrive quite tired. One day in Chiang Mai = three days away, so you will need to find a companion for three days which will add to the cost.Well the flight time is only an hour or so, but door-to-door would be half a day. Personally I prefer to sight-see by myself, so I certainly wouldn't fly a girl up there just for company. Much better to fly there, stay one night and fly back the next. You can find company either for ST or LT in Chiang Mai. It may be uncertain but no more so than taking a chance on a girl from BKK, which would be a very expensive option with flights.
what's Bangkok like during Songran? I hear the girls leave for the sticks and you end up getting wet everywhere you go LOL I could just take a detour in Macau though.Surely BKK will be' wet! And you will be no exception.
I doubt if it would be worth it. It is quite a trip from Bangkok to Chiang May: it will take you the better part of the day, unless you go by night train or night bus, but then you arrive quite tired. One day in Chiang Mai = three days away, so you will need to find a companion for three days which will add to the cost.While chiang mai is not a real mongering destination there are plenty of girls to be had, actually this is just the conundrum that they don't find customers. They might not be pornstars but they will service you just fine and the fun is also as always in the hunt. If you come here (to cm) and cannot find any give me a shout. I will help out.
Turnover27
03-27-12, 21:59
Anybody has an idea what is going on close to the Hyatt Hotel? What are the shortest destinations for hot fun from this place?
Western787
03-28-12, 06:12
Anybody has an idea what is going on close to the Hyatt Hotel? What are the shortest destinations for hot fun from this place?Spasso bar is right in the hotel but supposedly with a large cover charge and expensive FL's
I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?
Want to hook up with a MLF in banglok or Pattaya any suggestions.
MILF can be of any race.
Anybody has an idea what is going on close to the Hyatt Hotel? What are the shortest destinations for hot fun from this place?You can just go down to the disco in the hotel and check out the talent there. The Spasso bar suppose to be night club after the restaurant operations shut down and the talent should be fine, just costs a little more. Kind of like the extra cost of room service.
I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?I don't see how any of you guys can take those pills. They make my Dick sleepy and limp for the entire next day.
Well the flight time is only an hour or so, but door-to-door would be half a day. Personally I prefer to sight-see by myself, so I certainly wouldn't fly a girl up there just for company. Much better to fly there, stay one night and fly back the next. You can find company either for ST or LT in Chiang Mai. It may be uncertain but no more so than taking a chance on a girl from BKK, which would be a very expensive option with flights.Air asia has cheap flights from BKK to Chiang Mai. Me and my Thai virgin (Ex now) went there and stayed for a week. Really like it. Cooler weather. We did lots of touristy trips including going into Myanmar and Laos.
Lots of tribes in that area and the tribal girls are quite pretty (atleast the ones they show to tourists ). Lots of beautifull temples, Folk dances with dinner etc. I believe if somebody finds a GFE girl in BKK it is really worth the trip. Ofcourse got to love the touristy stuff. If somebody is Just going there to find girls and staying in the room it is a waste. There are plent of pretty girls in Chiang Mai and Chiang rai. I do not know if they are normal girls or working girls. Once my guide said he can get me Tribal girls when I kiddingly ask the pretty tribal girl if she was looking for a bf. I did not pursue it because I had a wonderfull pretty companion with me.
I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?I always use Ambien when I travel. Helps me sleep on the plane. But they are prescription.
It seems you can get Ambien without prescription in Bangkok. Anyone can recommend a pharmacy for it? Generally speaking, can I just walk in any pharmacy as they are all legit, or is it important to get "one of the good ones" in Bangkok to avoid fakes? I have no experience with pharmacies here.
Went to Rainbow 4, only because of the prettiest girls. 6-9 months ago the standard wasn't as high. Maybe the floods have brought some new pretty girls. Decided to call over one witha stunning face. Body not quite super but okay Smallish tits, no problem. She was showing little real interest and encouraged me to call over any other I so much as glanced at. She explained she was waiting for her husband, I guess she meant her regular, and in any case she goes for a high price. She was certain I wouldn't be interested since I speak Thai, and all the guys that speak Thai are careful with the prices. Actually I was willing to take one for the forum, even at an inflated price just to see if she would be a starfish or what. It was obvious she was not in a negotiation mood and suggesting other girls, for me. In the end she agreed to go with me but only to ST hotel in Nana so that she would be able to get back to her regular later.
In the room she explained that she never goes with guys over 38 (why the magic number?) , but she made an exception for me since I was clearly not like the average guy, but actually gave her a quite good nice guy impression. Anyway I have been mistaken for high 40s, but 38 would be stretching the imagination much too far. She was from Lopburi with quite pale skin and had only been in the bar 4 months, which figures. I don't expect excessively pretty girls would last too long. Sh acted somewhat shy for a bar girl and did not have a great deal of skills. BJ was not greatly useful. No matter, for a girl so pretty, I can get horny easily enough. She even let me do a little DATY. I got myself hard while gently playing with her pussy, and she moving her body as though she was feeling okay with it. Even got to insert finger a little. She then wanted to change the condom in case was damaged. Never mind I was still moderately hard. During the sex she was prepared to raise her knees up to her chest to give me best entry, so the screw was quite enjoyable in the end, with only her pretty face being some compensation for her lack of skills.
So although too expensive, it was pleased that it was not a complete disaster as I half expected. Next time I will try one with a knockout body to go with the face I think. Its a bit hard to tell though unless they at least go topless.
In between girls I had to call my GF pretending to be at the Airport Gold Lounge, ready to fly out. Actually in a restaurant at the Landmark.
Later called in to Rainbow. Not same standard but a couple of pretty girls there. Went with a Ding Dong type from Udon later. She moaned a lot and thrashed around wildly a bit but I was not convinced by the act at all. She forgot her telephone in my Hotel room. Soon realised and called me up of course. No. 68 at rainbow had a very high hip to waist ratio, and cute face, and reminded me of one of my favourite Soapy girls from Chiang Rai, so might try her next time.
Mr. D Cups,
Rainbow has a girl dancing with at least E to F sized cups, and not silicone I reckon. Enormous. Too much for me to handle, she is not slim obviously, but not really too fat either.
I don't see how any of you guys can take those pills. They make my Dick sleepy and limp for the entire next day.Thanks for the warning.
I tried Laet (Rhino) Lotion, and it killed all feeling in my dick for some time. I guess it was intended for guys who cum too quick, to weaken the sensations. I take a long time to cum, so was hoping for something to increase the sensation instead of masking it.
Another warning. I once took cough medicine for a problem cough. I found after that, my dick wouldn't stay up too. It seemed to be somewhat anaesthetised (not just the throat only) , and I wasn't blown by someone drinking the cough medicine either.
Tony Hoeprano
03-28-12, 22:43
Want to hook up with a MLF in banglok or Pattaya any suggestions.
MILF can be of any race.Cripes pal, you asked the same question about 7-8 times, and you still don't have any idea? There's another thread with photos of nothing buy MILF's, maybe the proprietor of that thread can help you out with some of his models!
Thanks for the warning.
I tried Laet (Rhino) Lotion, and it killed all feeling in my dick for some time. I guess it was intended for guys who cum too quick, to weaken the sensations. I take a long time to cum, so was hoping for something to increase the sensation instead of masking it.
Another warning. I once took cough medicine for a problem cough. I found after that, my dick wouldn't stay up too. It seemed to be somewhat anaesthetised (not just the throat only) , and I wasn't blown by someone drinking the cough medicine either.I have the same limp Dick problem with muscle relaxers, sleeping pills, cough syrup, nyquil, Xanax, etc.
Anything that makes me "relax" also makes my pecker relax. I try to avoid that shit when on mongering trip.
It seems you can get Ambien without prescription in Bangkok. Anyone can recommend a pharmacy for it? Generally speaking, can I just walk in any pharmacy as they are all legit, or is it important to get "one of the good ones" in Bangkok to avoid fakes? I have no experience with pharmacies here.I've never found a chemist that will sell Ambien without a scrip here, and I have asked. Valium and Xanax, yes, but the first makes me feel like I've been smacked over the head with a frozen salmon, and the latter gives me wild dreams, which isn't too bad but it also has a reputation for causing psychosis. If anyone finds a shop in BKK that will sell Ambien or generic zolpidem please let us know!
I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.
I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.Could go to the "Generral" thread, where most non-mongering topics go.
Western787
03-29-12, 07:33
Went to Rainbow 4, only because of the prettiest girls. 6-9 months ago the standard wasn't as high. Maybe the floods have brought some new pretty girls. Decided to call over one witha stunning face. Body not quite super but okay Smallish tits, no problem. She was showing little real interest and encouraged me to call over any other I so much as glanced at. She explained she was waiting for her husband, I guess she meant her regular, and in any case she goes for a high price. She was certain I wouldn't be interested since I speak Thai, and all the guys that speak Thai are careful with the prices. Actually I was willing to take one for the forum, even at an inflated price just to see if she would be a starfish or what. It was obvious she was not in a negotiation mood and suggesting other girls, for me. In the end she agreed to go with me but only to ST hotel in Nana so that she would be able to get back to her regular later.
In the room she explained that she never goes with guys over 38 (why the magic number?) , but she made an exception for me since I was clearly not like the average guy, but actually gave her a quite good nice guy impression. Anyway I have been mistaken for high 40s, but 38 would be stretching the imagination much too far. She was from Lopburi with quite pale skin and had only been in the bar 4 months, which figures. I don't expect excessively pretty girls would last too long. Sh acted somewhat shy for a bar girl and did not have a great deal of skills. BJ was not greatly useful. No matter, for a girl so pretty, I can get horny easily enough. She even let me do a little DATY. I got myself hard while gently playing with her pussy, and she moving her body as though she was feeling okay with it. Even got to insert finger a little. She then wanted to change the condom in case was damaged. Never mind I was still moderately hard. During the sex she was prepared to raise her knees up to her chest to give me best entry, so the screw was quite enjoyable in the end, with only her pretty face being some compensation for her lack of skills.
So although too expensive, it was pleased that it was not a complete disaster as I half expected. Next time I will try one with a knockout body to go with the face I think. Its a bit hard to tell though unless they at least go topless.
In between girls I had to call my GF pretending to be at the Airport Gold Lounge, ready to fly out. Actually in a restaurant at the Landmark.
Later called in to Rainbow. Not same standard but a couple of pretty girls there. Went with a Ding Dong type from Udon later. She moaned a lot and thrashed around wildly a bit but I was not convinced by the act at all. She forgot her telephone in my Hotel room. Soon realised and called me up of course. No. 68 at rainbow had a very high hip to waist ratio, and cute face, and reminded me of one of my favourite Soapy girls from Chiang Rai, so might try her next time.
Mr. D Cups,
Rainbow has a girl dancing with at least E to F sized cups, and not silicone I reckon. Enormous. Too much for me to handle, she is not slim obviously, but not really too fat either.Obviously a very pretty girl (long legs too?) who is in some kind of denial mode that she's even a WG, so she has all these supposed rules, thus making it (in her mind at least) more like having sex with mostly younger to younger middle aged guys who happen to be generous, and that she perhaps has some attraction toward. If she has sex with an older guy, she would then know for sure she's a WG. Brad Pitt is 48, but would he be turned down? Odd she's not working G clubs and out trolling for rich guys and sponsors. Beyond having small tits what made her body "not super"?
. She moaned a lot and thrashed around wildly a bit but I was not convinced by the act at allYou are making progress ;) ;)
I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.Anyone with a great mongering report can cut through anytime. In the meantime, I'm still looking for a good pharmacy in BKK ;)
Could go to the "Generral" thread, where most non-mongering topics go.Your wasting your time complaining about this. I have decided that the members don't care too much about mongering on the Bangkok thread, and don't know the difference between Bangkok reports and general conversation. Don't fight now, you will lose and I already lost.
I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?Be my guest! This board has gone to hell anyways. No one understands the difference between the General thread and Bangkok reports. In fact I think Jackson and other members have created a separate thread for every topic you guys insist on posting in the the section reserved for Bangkok reports. Well won't last much longer because the Thai gov't just blocked ISG and you will now need a proxy to access it.
Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.
I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.
LittleBigMan
03-29-12, 15:41
Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.You don't need all those heavy medicines? When I travel now on a long flight, I usually have two glasses of red wine with my dinner. Lately I got a hold of some natural herbal tea's, Ashwagandha and Passion Flower, make yourself a cup after your dinner and you are out. Ashwagandha in particular really relaxes you and when you wake up you feel energized! All ready for the action that awakes you in Thailand.
LBM
I wasnt referring to your photos becoz yours are obviously not genuine. Look like they taken from some other source.
All in fun guys. Don't take things so seriously!I think you are totally out to lunch. These photos belong to me. They were either take from me or given to me by the ladies in question!
Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.I did not know we could advertise in this forum but great pics!
Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.I use Ambien for jet lag as I fly a lot. Have never been able to buy zolpidem in BKK without a scrip. Can buy in India very easily if you are passing through.
Tony Hoeprano
03-30-12, 04:44
I think you are totally out to lunch. These photos belong to me. They were either take from me or given to me by the ladies in question!I noticed this too. A few of them looked like they were taken by you, but a few looked like they were taken from a dating site or what not.
SimonIndia
03-30-12, 05:27
Kind att Dr BJ
Nice to see the website updated
But for your information Old is Gold and you cannot deny the fact.
The mature ones are the ones who will keep the standards of your place specially the ones from Annies
I please request you to number the ladies as it will be easier to identify the ladies when we come over
The names are very difficult to pronounce for a non Thai and are long too
So please code them as it will be good for the customer as when you are having more than 30 ladies spotting the special one will be difficult.
Hope you consider my suggestion.
Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.
Here is a question on BKK freelancers: how many of them would you say are occasional (regular girls with a job looking for extra cash a few times a month) and how many are out there every night and doing it professionally?
PS: Moris - ISG is not blocked at all as far as I can tell.
I've never partaked in a BJ bar.
Ugly brown skin and pretyy white skin are like oil and water, they just don't mix.A silly metaphor, IMHO. Its all personal taste man. I am not so fussy when it comes to skin colour, being a Farang. A pretty girl can be white (light) , brown or black (quite dark). Isn't Naomi Campbell a hot girls for looks? I am also very fussy about looks and don't go to BJ bars much, not expecting to find the best lookers in the world on average, however have managed to find acceptable girls in the past. Bear in mind not everyone is so fussy as us for looks, and some are more interested in big tits, real or not, and BJ technique for a good price.
I suggest you go to Rainbow 4 bar, as you will find some stunning pale skinned girls, at a massive price, whose blowjob technique sucks, to be honest compared to BJ specialist places, but still worth a visit for the sheer beauty. Why mouth off about something that is of no interest to you? Post a review of some place you liked instead.
Here is a question on BKK freelancers: how many of them would you say are occasional (regular girls with a job looking for extra cash a few times a month) and how many are out there every night and doing it professionally?
PS: Moris. ISG is not blocked at all as far as I can tell.ISG is blocked at some Hotels. In that event can use internet tethering to your phone. I don't do freelancers much anymore, so its difficult to estimate without the adequate experience. Probably a low percentage. However have definitely had a few part-timers over the years. Recently a girl was in Sheba for her friends birthday, but she doesn't work the bar currently although used to, and doing something else now. However she was willing to go with me that night (no bar fine required) , so hadn't given up hooking completely. I was also informed that 1 girl at EZ massage has a regular job as well as doing some work at EZ to suppliment.
Mr Enternational
03-30-12, 10:12
ISG is blocked at some Hotels. In that event can use internet tethering to your phone.Or use a proxy server. http://freeproxyserver.net/
El Frances
03-30-12, 10:12
Here is a question on BKK freelancers: how many of them would you say are occasional (regular girls with a job looking for extra cash a few times a month) and how many are out there every night and doing it professionally?
PS: Moris. ISG is not blocked at all as far as I can tell.Difficult to give figures. Some of them I've seen around for years (including having a real job during the day) , some do it only during a few month because they have a specific problem (I. E. Pay studies) , or do it a few days a month to pay their rent. Then it's a question of flair to identify them. I would tend to think that most 28+ girls are regular freelancers (with or without day job) , while the (few) younger ones probably only do it for a limited period of time in the year. When I find a pretty young FL in the street or in bars, I usually take her phone number to meet them again when I come back to BKK. Usually, this number doesn't remain active more than 6 months.
Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.Whatever. As I said, not really my business.
I say it is just the opposite with freelancers or any hooker with a job. The day job is something they do for extra money and to socialize. Give thier lifestyle some balance.
None of them are truly career oriented, none of them have alot of prospects. They are looking for some old geezer to sponsor them, and then they still might sell themselves for fun.
I believe most Thai working girls get into the business because they have a friend who is in the business first, not because of pure desperation. Sure, they might have been poor, but rice, chicken, and papaya is cheap. There families were not about to starve. Even after they get boyfriends or sponsors, they will still want to go and hang out with thier hooker friends.
Not many "Babes in the woods", in my opinion.
I believe most Thai working girls get into the business because they have a friend who is in the business first, not because of pure desperation. Sure, they might have been poor, but rice, chicken, and papaya is cheap. There families were not about to starve.You certainly have no idea about Thai family monetary problems, specially for girls with baby but husband long gone. Medicine / treatment for sickness in the family is an obvious high cost item, schooling for close relative also. Sure a friend may suggest a place to work, but surely money is the prime motivation. Not socializing with friends.
Mr Enternational
03-30-12, 10:30
I believe most Thai working girls get into the business because they have a friend who is in the business first, not because of pure desperation. Sure, they might have been poor, but rice, chicken, and papaya is cheap. There families were not about to starve. Even after they get boyfriends or sponsors, they will still want to go and hang out with thier hooker friends.You got that right. Have you ever tried to pull some of these chicks away from their friends when they are out partying? Then a couple of weeks ago I reported about a Pattaya girl who has a boyfriend that bought her a 30000 baht phone and sends her money and she still goes with guys. And he knows it! Amazing Thailand.
You certainly have no idea about Thai family monetary problems, specially for girls with baby but husband long gone. Medicine / treatment for sickness in the family is an obvious high cost item, schooling for close relative also. Sure a friend may suggest a place to work, but surely money is the prime motivation. Not socializing with friends.They might send 10, 000 baht back home, tops. Probably not that much. They could make that much money working anywhere. They spend all their money on dumb shit like cell phones and clothes.
Picked up a two girls from Sheba last night, one from the lesbian act, and one I know well. The lesbian act girl was cute enough that several guys were wanting to call her over so got my other girl to check with her and get her bar-fined promptly before it was too late. I was later embarassed to find out she was only 18 but an exquisite fuck.
For those of you have never tried screwing a girl at the same time as having another lick your balls, I can highly recommend it. Got a really special feeling from that. Can't wait for the next session.
Never did I see a light skin pretty girl anywhere near the premises.One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
Ugly brown skin and pretyy white skin are like oil and water, they just don't mix.I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.
They might send 10, 000 baht back home, tops. Probably not that much. They could make that much money working anywhere. They spend all their money on dumb shit like cell phones and clothes.Sure working girls feel entitled to have a cell phone, and wear clothes, and some are wasting their money, but not all. Not many can afford an iphone / ipad. I am certainly aware of Thais in desperate financial straits, who are not working as pros, so the temptation to become a hooker could be strong. Some at least become part time hookers when they absolutely have to get money for the medical bill or even next month's rent. Those that get reasonable money as hooker, no doubt become somewhat more relaxed finacially and may start to party it up with the friends. I can promise you though, that if a more highly paid job was a available to them, or had the fiance to start their own business, many would quit being a bar / MP girl quite quickly. E. G. Cherry massage has just been started up by ex working girls.
E. G. Cherry massage has just been started up by ex working girls.Ex-working girls my ass. Cherry would quit Mango every few months to shack up with some punter for a while. Falangs are the money, behind Cherry massage. I promise I could still fuck Cherry if I wanted to. Jane also. Boyfriend or no boyfriend.
They might send 10, 000 baht back home, tops. Probably not that much. They could make that much money working anywhere. They spend all their money on dumb shit like cell phones and clothes.True for some but not for all. My "girlfriend" sends way more. She sent half a million baths to her family for a new home, most of that was wasted away on gambling by the dumbass male side of the family (father and brothers). Amazing Thailand. I'm trying to convince her to stop giving money to anyone except her sisters.
Also they could most definitely not "make that much money working anywhere". What they would make as provincial girls with no qualifications is 6 or 8 or 10K a month or something, depending where they work (which company and which location ie home village or Bangkok). Most of that little salary would be eaten up by basic necessities expenses so there would be nothing left to send. They can send a lot more doing this job and have a better lifestyle to boot. There is a reason why girls enter the trade, they aren't stupid.
Sure, hookers fuck for money. But that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about hookers that have a normal jobs also.
I believe that most just say that shit to someone so they will agree to a quick short time session."Sorry, I have to work in the morning","Sorry, I have class in the morning" is better than saying "I'm in a hurry, my boyfriend is waiting" or "Sorry, I have not smoked any ice in a few hours".
Most Thai hookers are lazy and like to party. They like the job. They like the lifestyle. It is not sick buffaloes and bills to pay.
If I could choose between fucking and working hard. I would choose fucking.
If I could choose between fucking and working hard. I would choose fucking.
Yeah. Sometimes I envy my girl's job. Couple of hours of work a week. Good pay. Weeks or month off whenever she wants. Travel in luxury on some guy's dime. Party time and lunches with girlfriends every other day. Not a bad deal. If I had the option I would probably do it too.
Dash Riprock
03-30-12, 14:43
A lot are paying off 2-20% per month loans to private money lenders that it is unlikely they'll ever be able to f* their way out of.
I please request you to number the ladies as it will be easier to identify the ladies when we come over The names are very difficult to pronounce for a non Thai and are long too So please code them as it will be good for the customer as when you are having more than 30 ladies spotting the special one will be difficult. Hope you consider my suggestion.Already done for you.
Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. Thanks
Tony Hoeprano
03-31-12, 00:10
One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.She looks scared in the middle photo. I would suggest hiring a photographer who can bring out happier emotions!
Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. ThanksOne gal that sticks out is a light skinned girl working at Bacarra. She was hot with nice fake ones. She was sitting with a Japanese dude of course.
Franco Cozzo
03-31-12, 01:30
Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. ThanksAt least 3 girls I have BFd from baccara have fake boobs; though I think at many Gogos you will find at least one lady with them.
One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.OMG. Seriously?
I come to this forum for the intel of the savvy punter with first hand experiences and boots on the ground, and not to be marketed to by owners with a vested interest in puffing up the truth while pushing their wares.
Sad sad sad turn of events here.
SunLover
One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.In protest to this blatant add, I have come out of posting retirement to give a review. A fair review though.
I frequented Annies a lot in the last year that I have lived in Bangkok, but when they ditched their fishbowl girls and went to 2500 girls only I started to look else where. Dr BJs appealed to me from the website so I popped in to see what the score was. I went for VIP in the full on at the top of the building suit.
Walking in, down stairs is nicely done out. Biggest grumble is that the girls parade on a balcony on the next floor and you can not really see them, certainly not their bodies. I picked the girl that looked cutest but in reality was ropey at best during the action. Walked up 3 or 4 flights of stairs, through the 1st floor bed area where the girls most likely live / sleep and was gerenally very untidy and told a story that on the face of things, they want to look flash and smart but underneath they are no different to anywhere else.
The VIP was a BIG let down. It is an old poorly maintained and decorated studio apartment, complete with 1980's decor and bed. The Bathroom had been refitted and there was a token lilo for soapy massage but compared to the facilities on Ratchada it leaves a lot to be desired.
I won't comment on the performance of the girl too much. They seem to be the old fishbowl girls from Annies that are not hot enough to graduate to the 2500 sideline price tag. She was mechanical, learnt all she knew from watching porn but not in a good way (very very mechanical, and I actually started to lose interest within about 10 minutes).
My basic view is; over priced, misleading website if you are interested in something more that an BJ; poor quality of girls, and somewhere I have no interest in returning to. I have stopped going to Annies as well because of the lack of the odd gem you would find in the fishbowl as well. Ratchada all the way for me now.
@Dr BJ. Try harder.
Probably wrong on this but Dr. BJ Salons recent pictures had a girl that looked like she had bolt ons. When I showed the pictures to the Thai wife her response was 'circle' which is her way in saying fake.
At least 3 girls I have BFd from baccara have fake boobs; though I think at many Gogos you will find at least one lady with them.
Probably wrong on this but Dr. BJ Salons recent pictures had a girl that looked like she had bolt ons. When I showed the pictures to the Thai wife her response was 'circle' which is her way in saying fake.Very obvious fakes. So what?
A Previous poster was looking for fakes. I could care less. Not my taste.
Very obvious fakes. So what?
the vip was a big let down. it is an old poorly maintained and decorated studio apartment, complete with 1980's decor and bed. the bathroom had been refitted and there was a token lilo for soapy massage but compared to the facilities on ratchada it leaves a lot to be desired.vip has always been a gimmick i think, but in most places you get a bigger room.
i never can cease to be amazed by the high expectations. this is a bj joint in a very down market location. comparing to a luxury ratchada soapy appears slightly ridiculous. okay i conceed that you are expecting fab bj skills, and hopefully way better than soapy girls, but my experience in bj places is that not all girls have the same skills. however i would suggest go to a bj bar where can sit and talk to the girl first to see who you like. i always rejected eden due to the style being expected to choose girls immediately without delay.
you have 3 bj joints in sukhumvit now to choose from, would be interesting to read a comparison of all three. i have only tried [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on occasions where could only escape from gf for max of 30 mins without too much suspicion. some girls were acceptable looking but very few. at the other, forget the name, (maybe "lollipop"?) didn't see a girl that was appealing at all. so didn't stay.
SimonIndia
03-31-12, 05:53
Already done for you.Thanks for the same hope it helps others too.
vip has always been a gimmick i think, but in most places you get a bigger room.
i never can cease to be amazed by the high expectations. this is a bj joint in a very down market location. comparing to a luxury ratchada soapy appears slightly ridiculous. okay i conceed that you are expecting fab bj skills, and hopefully way better than soapy girls, but my experience in bj places is that not all girls have the same skills. however i would suggest go to a bj bar where can sit and talk to the girl first to see who you like. i always rejected eden due to the style being expected to choose girls immediately without delay.
you have 3 bj joints in sukhumvit now to choose from, would be interesting to read a comparison of all three. i have only tried [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on occasions where could only escape from gf for max of 30 mins without too much suspicion. some girls were acceptable looking but very few. at the other, forget the name, (maybe "lollipop"?) didn't see a girl that was appealing at all. so didn't stay.for dr bjs. vip does not mean vip, and i knew this from the start. it means a bed, bathroom, and soapy mat. however with such effort in the bj rooms to charge more to sit in a bed sit is rediculous. also you can easily compare ratchada to this place not least because dr bjs offersfull service in a room with bathroom and soapy mat. the room was similar to nataree in quality, more expensive and certainly no where close in terms of quality. quite happy for the tourists to flood these low down rip off joints; i'll do as the locals do and stay local.
Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. ThanksSilicones abound everywhere. Not hard to find in bars or MPs. What is the problem? Maybe you should be specifying the size, if you look for something out of the ordinary. Look on MP websites with girl pics. Plenty are obvious silicones. Nearly every bar in Cowboy or Nana Plaza has biggish silicones on one or more girls. Ladyboy bars have the highest concentration of them. One girl at Rainbow bar had really massive tits (F cup?) , but I thought they might actually be real, as not in the coconut shell shape.
OMG. Seriously?
I come to this forum for the intel of the savvy punter with first hand experiences and boots on the ground, and not to be marketed to by owners with a vested interest in puffing up the truth while pushing their wares.
Sad sad sad turn of events here.
SunLoverOut of all of my posts this is only the second or third regarding the salon. Most of them have been about my experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya, how many field reports have you posted? Not singular comments but actual real life experiences I. E a savvy punter with boots on the ground etc? This is not a dig at you, as I am genurly interested in your posts, if you can add links to the forum, I will read through and take on your insider knowledge.
In respect of my post being advertising "no it is not" it was more in reply to multiple questions across many forums but if it is taken as that then ok my bad but this was not the intention. I have actually tried to contact 2 regional moderators and Jackson himself over a period of 5 months to enquire about paid advertising on this forum and got no reply. I have the banners and everything ready and waiting. If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.
OK, cool, thanks Syzygies It's been 3 years since my last BKK trip and at that time there was not much silicone around, visited most Nana Plaza bars and all the silicone I saw was bolted onto ladyboys' chests. I like big firm tits on small framed girls. Good to hear there is progress. I shall browse up some MP sites as you suggested although I prefer the evening bar scene better. If anyone spot a girl with big silicone tits anywhere, let me know thanks.
I would suggest hiring a photographer who can bring out happier emotions! .Fon Tok? Kaintuck? . They are the best photographers the Thai sections of ISG have!
Tony Hoeprano
04-01-12, 01:19
Fon Tok? Kaintuck? . They are the best photographers the Thai sections of ISG have!Yes, not sure if mr FonTok does studio gigs, he seems to specialize in street photography. Kaintuck is a good studio guy, but his choice of models are somewhat controversial LOL.
Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous? I like girls like these ones, IMO, their hotness makes up for their aloofness.
I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht!
I believe that if a girl or establishment has been receiving some bad reviews then they are aloud and should have the opportunity to post a response to some of the comments. What I don't agree with is the posting of the girls photographs on the main board, they should have been posted in the classified section. There is a well know board in Canada that allows WG's and Escort agencies to have memberships and post. On that board many WG's and agencies will post phony reports or shills to try and offset the bad reviews. I commend Dr. BJ for not doing this thing. Please remember one thing about business and customers. Rarely do customers sing praises about any business. It is expected when one pays a fee for a service it should be exceptional. Customers however will always talk about and complain when the services are not good, it is human nature. BJ I suggest you purchase a simple membership for 19. 99USD to support the board and post your ads in the classified section if you want. I am not sure how much time Jackson spends on the board but I suspect it is not a full time gig for him. I don't see a lot of ads so I assume this to be true. If he sees your activity then I am sure he will take a paid ad from you. Why not post a girl of the week in the classifieds section. Maybe offer a special for the members here. The secret code is "sure are a lot of girls here" or at least it was the code in China to identify forum members in Beijing bars.
If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.I am not in Authority and could be wrong, but I think that Ads are acceptable in the Escorts Classified Thread even if its not strictly about Escorts. We don't have hundred threads so have to find the one of best fit.
Franco Cozzo
04-01-12, 06:44
Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous? I like girls like these ones, IMO, their hotness makes up for their aloofness.
I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht!Hello, Tony, as you can probably guess from earlier post, I am a Baccara fan, mainly because there are at least a few girls this hot most nights. I think quite a few of the flashier (and more expensive) Gogos on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza should have some girls this hot most nights, as well as some of the better massage parlours (I'm trying to remember the name of the website that has photos of lots of girls from various shops). I believe ST will be a fair bit more than 1K (BF will eat most of that up) , and you will generally have to hit it off or be fairly generous with LDs (and offered fee) to make it happen.
I have managed to BF a few girls around this level of hotness from Gogos (ands MPs) , but seeing as most Gogo girls say no to photos, many of the stuners say no to LT (which I usually prefer after a night out at Gogos) and in my experience generally aren't the best in bed, they have mostly not been my favourite experiences. Once in a while you will get a stunner that gives it 100, so it is still worthwhile to aim for this level of attractiveness; but I quite often also go for cute to attractive ladies with better attitudes as well.
Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous?I'd try some G-Clubs like The Bank, The Pimp or St. Moritz.
I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht!I really doubt that this amount will get it done with a really stunner
Harry Dude
04-01-12, 09:15
Sometimes it can be surprisingly efficient to get through BKK Suvarnabhmui Airport and into the action. This happened yesterday:
00:45 (am). My flight from Europe touched down on the runway a few minutes early due to tailwind. It arrived at gate D4 which is very close to immigration / passport control.
01:05 (am). Sitting in a metered taxi already. Immigration was quick with only two people in front of me. And of course I never check luggage.
01:40 (am). In my room at Grand Millenium on Sukhumvit Soi 21. The taxi ride was extremely quick, the only detour was when the taxi driver decided to get off the freeway early and drive along Thanon Phetchaburi before turning left onto Soi 21 / Asoke, he obviously wanted to gawk at all the streetwalkers along this rather dark stretch of road. And he kept pointing them out to me and saying "Lady Market! Lady Market!" and laughing. These gals probably cater mostly to locals, I would presume. Some were quite nice looking though.
01:50 (am). In Soi Cowboy after a very quick shower and change of clothes after having been travelling for 14 hours. Headed straight to Dollhouse go-go.
02:15 (am). After a beer and a lady drink for one of the girls in Dollhouse, the upstairs nude section, barfined her. 600 baht. I could probably have waited until the bar closed and saved the barfine, but I was eager to get things going. In fact, one of the reasons I was a bit stressed about hitting Soi Cowboy before 2 am was that I thought they might be closing at that time.
03:45 (am). Falling asleep after two rounds with a very nice girl. Slim, nicely done bolt-ons, very passionate, lots of fun.
Next morning (or later in the same day if you like) I headed to Soi 24 for a nice oily, but that's another story. At 2pm I headed to the airport again. It was a good way to spend 13 hours in Bangkok.
The taxi ride was extremely quick, the only detour was when the taxi driver decided to get off the freeway early and drive along Thanon Phetchaburi before turning left onto Soi 21 / Asoke, .Happened to me last time when I caught a taxi at departure level eading to LL at soi 33. All were asking 400b. (11. 15pm) and I rejected a few, then one said 400 incl highway toll. OK, I said, spent less otehr times, but what the heck, not going to spend the night at departure level looking for the deal of the century. 400-70 makes 320, acceptable for a night ride. The bestard of the taxi driver paid the 25b. Toll and then after sometimes gets out heading in town. I was surprised as I know usually they go through another toll gate and exit at Soi 4 and reaching Sukhumvit at Asoke. The bestard! Used the cheapest part of the highway and slipped the 45b. Toll gate!
All in all the trip length was ok and, damn! I am not going to make a fuzz for 45b.
PS: congratulation for your efficiency. I usually do a 16hrs stop over but in the wrong hours: landing at dawn and departing at midnight... can still to quite something, tho'
Too much primer on her face.
One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.
Nothing like a little pimping.
Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.
Out of all of my posts this is only the second or third regarding the salon. Most of them have been about my experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya, how many field reports have you posted? Not singular comments but actual real life experiences I. E a savvy punter with boots on the ground etc? This is not a dig at you, as I am genurly interested in your posts, if you can add links to the forum, I will read through and take on your insider knowledge.
In respect of my post being advertising "no it is not" it was more in reply to multiple questions across many forums but if it is taken as that then ok my bad but this was not the intention. I have actually tried to contact 2 regional moderators and Jackson himself over a period of 5 months to enquire about paid advertising on this forum and got no reply. I have the banners and everything ready and waiting. If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.This is a membership forum, and we do not want to be bombarded with ads. Having said that, I believe Jackson does have some banner ads (or used to). I doubt if you sent a mail to Jackson as he is very courteous and does give a reply. So please stop proselytizing your bar in the forum. Go start another thread and you will have your own following.
Member #4698
04-01-12, 18:03
Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous? I like girls like these ones, IMO, their hotness makes up for their aloofness.
I'd try some G-Clubs like The Bank, The Pimp or St. Moritz.
I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht!
I really doubt that this amount will get it done with a real stunnerThe Cream in BKK.
* Warning: Don't read this post if spending large bothers you *
Level 1: Rainbow 4. There are usually 4 or 5 very attractive girls on right hand stage when you enter R4. Standard prices apply: 600bt bar fine plus 2000bt ST, but don't be surprised if one of the hot ones asks for 2500bt.
Level 2: Soapy massage parlors – my favorite is La Belle – they have some very attractive girls here comparable in quality and price to Macau Sauna 'model' girls. The major differences are Chinese girls vs. Thai girls, there are more stunners in the Macau saunas at any given time than at even the best BKK soapy, and the price in Macau is around $250 for a 'model'. But be aware, La Belle charges a farang tax of 1000bt for white guys. I challenged the mamasan about this on one of my last visits. She played it dumb and insisted the fee goes straight to the girl ignoring my question of the add on charge. I responded that I was not questioning the price just the add on charge because I am white. She only repeated herself. So there you are. Take it or leave it. I take it and go there anyway because I like some of the girls and they are indeed a step up in quality from the Go Go's. Copa Cabana is another good place that I like and there is no farang charge here, but the quality is more hit or miss than at La Belle.
On my last visit to BKK in March, I visited La Belle twice. One time I took Yo #S70 – a nice looking girl who showed me a good time. S class girls are priced at 2700bt for a 90 minute session. Adding in the farang tax and Yo cost me 3700bt. On my 2nd visit to La Belle this March, I choose Nuy #P2. Nuy was a better looking girl with a better body and was naturally a higher priced girl than Yo. P class girls are priced at 3900bt so I was charged 4900bt for 90 minutes with Nuy.
We started with the Jacuzzi, then on the bed she licked me all over front and back including an anal rim and then she performed a good BBBJ. We finished off with a shag, cowgirl style. She was very sexy and I reached orgasm with more than 25 minutes still on the clock. I asked her for a 2nd shag. She said ok if I tipped her. I asked her how much of a tip she wanted and she smiled and said up to you. I agreed and she gave me a 2nd BBBJ to get me hard. This time I had more staying power. We started the 2nd shag with cowgirl again, then she twirled around my cock and we did reverse cowgirl. After a while I sat up and moved her into doggie. We went into overtime and I finished her off in mish. She is a real nice spinner girl in my book. She was ok with my taking some photos of her. I tipped her 500bt for the 2nd session and she was happy. She escorted me back to the lounge area where we kissed and said goodbye. I hung around and had some dinner. The squid in lime sauce was excellent (225bt). It was after 10pm when I left. I noticed a couple of real stunners had just arrived. One girl that was really gorgeous caught my eye. She was a D class sideline girl – or 4900bt not including the farang tax. Another time I told myself as I left.
Level 3: The G clubs. If you want the top talent in BKK, this is where you go. There are many different types of memberships available at these clubs and they are all negotiable. Basically you will pay a set fee for a certain number of bottles and / or lady drinks credited to you account. For example, a 20, 000bt membership will buy you 10 bottles of alcohol or 6 bottles of alcohol and 40 lady drinks. A membership is the way to go if you live in BKK and want access to this quality of girl. You will get a better response from the girls when they know you are a member. But, you don't have to buy a membership and you can just walk in as a quest and check things out if you want.
You are charged a lady drink approximately every 30 minutes or so that a girl is sitting with you. If she is a dancer (coyote) you are charged while she is dancing. A lady drink is about 300 baht. Don't even think about going to one of these places if you are not willing to spend 4, 000 – 5000bt and believe me, it is not that hard to spend a lot more if you are not careful. What does this get you? An amazing night and an introduction (access) to the best looking girls in BKK. That's all. There is no bar fine. If the girl likes you, she will give you her phone number and you can text her or call her up later and ask her out on a date. If all goes well, eventually on the 1st. 2nd, or 3rd date you will shag her. There is no guarantee. You are playing in the big leagues now.
Arguably the hottest G club at the moment is the Maiake Club. I checked this place out when I was last in BKK and I was very impressed. The club is amazing. I spent around 3 hours in the club. My tab came to over 5000bt. I met a seriously beautiful girl there and we got on well. I did not get a chance to lay her because I did not have enough time left in BKK to go out with her. I have her cell number and we have been Yahoo Messaging each other since we met. Hopefully, she will still be around when I return to BKK in October.
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
http://www.maiake.com/
Great report! The price police will be all over you but who cares. I feel the same as you. I was wondering about these G clubs and now you have finally given some good info on them. I will check it out this weekend.
The taxi ride was extremely quick, the only detour was when the taxi driver decided to get off the freeway early and drive along Thanon Phetchaburi before turning left onto Soi 21 / Asoke, he obviously wanted to gawk at all the streetwalkers along this rather dark stretch of road. And he kept pointing them out to me and saying "Lady Market! Lady Market!" and laughing. These gals probably cater mostly to locals, I would presume. Some were quite nice looking though.Its actully quite normal to get off freeway before Asoke / Ratchadaphisek to avoid traffic jams, using Phet Uthai and then Kampangphet where those girls hang out, but maybe not necessary in the wee small hours.
LeknomForMe
04-02-12, 00:26
One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.Can someone please direct me to the site for this be j bar so that I might try this little hottay out? If its against the rules to post lincs here you can send it to me via pm I am a member. Thanks in advance
LekNomForMe
GentleBoner
04-02-12, 04:30
Arguably the hottest G club at the moment is the Maiake Club. I checked this place out when I was last in BKK and I was very impressed. The club is amazing. I spent around 3 hours in the club. My tab came to over 5000bt. I met a seriously beautiful girl there and we got on well. I did not get a chance to lay her because I did not have enough time left in BKK to go out with her. I have her cell number and we have been Yahoo Messaging each other since we met. Hopefully, she will still be around when I return to BKK in October.
Congratulations on paying 5000 baht to get a girl's Yahoo Messenger name. I can only imagine all the stimulating conversations you have.
HotShaneHot
04-02-12, 05:02
One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.MR DR BJ.
I would like to ask you the lady you put just hear is she a Nurse. Or Consultant?
I have been to you BJ bar And I did see it on the web befor I go there and I think AKKA76 is right your site is misleading website when I was go there. There was only one Nurse. And maybe 15 consultant and 700 is the price for a BJ not 1, 000.
So there was only one to pick from?
If all lady's are Nurse price I will go back if not I will not go again.
For whoever is interested, I found Ambien in the pharmacies in PatPong. They are easier to deal with than the ones in Suk.
Good report on G clubs Natty, thanks for that.
I won't even be giving Dr BJ the benefit of the doubt after his recent ramblings on these boards. Disrespecting potential customers and attacking your competitors is not the way to make a good impression of a new business trying to make it in a tough market.I don't know Dr BJ and I don't even go to BJ bars, but I haven't seen him disrespecting anyone. Are you delusional? And the man posted a lot of posts about his experiences with no marketing in them, I think he is allowed the odd informative post about his bar. I don't see why we need to be negative about it. I wish we could get such easy access to every bar owner in BKK!
Congratulations on paying 5000 baht to get a girl's Yahoo Messenger name. I can only imagine all the stimulating conversations you have.Now if that girl will provide PSE sex then maybe it will be worth it. But I still question, why? You can stay home (wherever that may be) and spend that kind of money and go on "dates" with pros or non-pros.
If I am spending that kind of money, it really better be all about me, not about trying to romance a gal who is looking for a "sponsor." But to each his own. Glad it is out there for you to enjoy.
Tony Hoeprano
04-02-12, 06:14
Nice write up Natty, it sounds like a good time for sure. I've never been to these G-clubs yet, but will be going for sure next time I'm in BKK.. which.. will be in a few weeks :) I enjoy the hunt for hot chicks and will not settle for low quality. (that's why I don't drink too much when I'm out and about LOL)
The G-club thing ain't for the cheap charlies that's for sure. Seems whenever the these venues get brought up, the cheap charlies come out of the wood work and say it's paying a lot of money for nothing, but it goes beyond just picking out a dark skinned issarn girl for 1k baht..
The G-club thing ain't for the cheap charlies that's for sure. Seems whenever the these venues get brought up, the cheap charlies come out of the wood work and say it's paying a lot of money for nothing, but it goes beyond just picking out a dark skinned issarn girl for 1k baht.Indeed, I never understand why someone has to flame if somebody decides to go the upper level and pay for that. If one can afford it.
Something is paying 3000 for the same girl anotehr one just had for 1000 (but even then.) , something else is having a totally different experience, location etc.
An airplane flies you from A to B and all passengers leave and arrive at same time, be them in first class, business class and coach. According to the cheap charlie concept first and business shoudl not exist. They do not see the point that maybe first and business class give the airline some extra revenue allowing cheap fares in coach.
It is also true that when mongering the higher price doesn't necessarily mean higher return, but when one goes in a club, in general and on principle, the service and environment is better than a mobile bar on a sidewalk.
YMMV and each one his own.
I don't condemn (much) the cheap charlies for their attitude, they should not criticize the high spenders.
I wish we could get such easy access to every bar owner in BKK!Very good point! Just as Aye gives interesting contributions on her Annie's establishment, it is not bad to get the insights from Dr. BJ.
I don't rate those as ads, but updates or news bulletin. And honest.
I also agree, Dr BJ often reports on his own mongering adventures. So at the end he mixes all up pretty well.
Western787
04-02-12, 09:42
Arguably the hottest G club at the moment is the Maiake Club. I checked this place out when I was last in BKK and I was very impressed. The club is amazing. I spent around 3 hours in the club. My tab came to over 5000bt. I met a seriously beautiful girl there and we got on well. I did not get a chance to lay her because I did not have enough time left in BKK to go out with her. I have her cell number and we have been Yahoo Messaging each other since we met. Hopefully, she will still be around when I return to BKK in October.
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
http://www.maiake.com/G clubs appear in part to be a farm system for rich and powerful Thais and East Asians to skim off new talent for their personal collections, meaning the top end girls generally aren't going to around very long anyways.
Very good point! Just as Aye gives interesting contributions on her Annie's establishment, it is not bad to get the insights from Dr. BJ.
I don't rate those as ads, but updates or news bulletin. And honest.
I also agree, Dr BJ often reports on his own mongering adventures. So at the end he mixes all up pretty well.I like his reports as well. Nice to hear info from the owner's mouth.
I like his reports as well. Nice to hear info from the owner's mouth.Let's not forget the add-on of an owner psoting here: he reads also comments and can address issues regarding his own establishment and that maybe he is not aware of or does not think of.
He promptly adjusted the photogallery of his website with references to each girl.
Very effective.
I can't imagine the same happening in a normal situation with a custoemr writing to the website postmaster etc.
Congratulations on paying 5000 baht to get a girl's Yahoo Messenger name. I can only imagine all the stimulating conversations you have.Can you post a report please?
The Cream in BKK.
* Warning: Don't read this post if spending large bothers you *
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
http://www.maiake.com/Thanks for the link to this club. There are indeed some beauties in there. I can see that spending a night with any of them would be expensive, but worth it.
As far as spending in that price range, if you can afford it. Why not? We only have a short time on this planet and can't take the money with us. Money buys experiences of all sorts. I am a cheap charlie at heart. I actually enjoy down and dirty, low budget venues like you can find in Chinatown. But I also like to fly and stay in the higher classes and also enjoy a high class entertainment venue on occasion.
Even so, this club can still tickle the cheap charlie in me if I compare it to somewhere like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada where a monger can easily spend those same figures but in USD and still not get anything as delicious as I see on this club's website. A US$5000 three hour party is standard for the hotties in Nevada, so 5000 or 10, 000 baht for those girls is damn cheap!
This club will be a must do for my next trip.
Thanks.
Pogo
Traveler1234
04-02-12, 14:36
The Cream in BKK.
* Warning: Don't read this post if spending large bothers you *
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
http://www.maiake.com/THANK YOU, after a few weeks of ethnic bashing, trashing other's spending habits, and other pure bullshit, finally some new information that's worth sharing. Nice report NB.
LittleBigMan
04-02-12, 15:00
Out of all of my posts this is only the second or third regarding the salon. Most of them have been about my experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya, how many field reports have you posted? Not singular comments but actual real life experiences I. E a savvy punter with boots on the ground etc? This is not a dig at you, as I am genurly interested in your posts, if you can add links to the forum, I will read through and take on your insider knowledge.
In respect of my post being advertising "no it is not" it was more in reply to multiple questions across many forums but if it is taken as that then ok my bad but this was not the intention. I have actually tried to contact 2 regional moderators and Jackson himself over a period of 5 months to enquire about paid advertising on this forum and got no reply. I have the banners and everything ready and waiting. If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.Just my opinion regarding banners?
Around a year and a half ago? A big discussion accured on this board regarding a particular banner. It got pretty heated and lots of accusation and negative opinions were thrown at Jackson. In the end, he deleted many of the post and some members were moderated for their harsh opinions. During that time I can only remember two Banners, Devils Den and Penthouse Hotel which started the whole thing. Once the banner went up the Penthouse also got their own thread and a heated discussion started after a member posted a negative review of the hotel. Many negative opinions directed at Jackson whether he should have even accepted the advertisement banner because many felt within his own ISG rules there was not to be any discussion about Ladyboys? Many felt Penthouse Hotel was a Ladyboy hotel or the club within the hotel was full of ladyboys? My own opinions directed at Jackson, wasn't of whether the hotel / club was for ladyboys it was that the owner of the hotel or spokeman was unprofessional regarding addressing the negative comments assuming that the poster was a liar or just making up the review or never even staying there. Regardless, this is all under the bridge and need no further discussion!
Regardless, I did notice the last time the site was shutdown to be revamped when it came up all the banners were gone? Penthouse and Devil Den. Based on the above respond and just reading some of the comments directed at B. J. (I have nothing against him) personally I hope you will not be able to post your banner. The signs are already there that it will get out of control although I agree you have been pretty objective regarding your post and not pushing your establishment. I'm not a big fan of starting more thread in fact I wish Jackson would consolidate and deleted many. Once everything is cleaned up maybe a new thread B. J. Establishments?
LBM
This is disturbing:
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Naughty-Boys-Hell.htm
Apparently every time a foreigner enters a hotel with a prostitute, that information will be added to his immigration records. Presumably that could possibly be used against a foreigner if he were were applying for a job or visa. Also, Thai prostitutes who have sex with foreigners off the premises of their place of employment will be required to get an ID card and have it renewed every 3 months. This ID card must be presented to the hotel and she must be registered before she'll be allowed to enter a room with a foreigner.
There are some interesting ramifications. Does it mean your good girl date is going to be accused of being a prostitute and barred entrance to your hotel? Will this apply to short time hotels? What will the effect be on freelancers or semi-pros? (To get the ID card, the woman needs to have no criminal record and be willing to go to a government hospital every three months at renewal time to get an STD check.)
This is disturbing:
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Naughty-Boys-Hell.htm
Apparently every time a foreigner enters a hotel with a prostitute, that information will be added to his immigration records. Presumably that could possibly be used against a foreigner if he were were applying for a job or visa. Also, Thai prostitutes who have sex with foreigners off the premises of their place of employment will be required to get an I'd card and have it renewed every 3 months. This I'd card must be presented to the hotel and she must be registered before she'll be allowed to enter a room with a foreigner.
There are some interesting ramifications. Does it mean your good girl date is going to be accused of being a prostitute and barred entrance to your hotel? Will this apply to short time hotels? What will the effect be on freelancers or semi-pros? (To get the I'd card, the woman needs to have no criminal record and be willing to go to a government hospital every three months at renewal time to get an STD check.) Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicised it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.
Traveler1234
04-02-12, 18:58
Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicized it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.Like so many things, it's not how the law is written, it's in the 'implementation'. If they can't implement the registration card, then nothing else will fall into place. I wouldn't be too worried for now.
Like so many things, it's not how the law is written, it's in the 'implementation'. If they can't implement the registration card, then nothing else will fall into place. I wouldn't be too worried for now.You're pulling my leg, right? They tried this in San Seriffe years ago, and it didn't work then.
http://wikitravel.org/en/San_Serriffe
Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicised it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.
Stickman:
"Every hotel in Thailand is required to report to the Immigration Department on a daily basis all foreigners staying in the hotel. The report includes the guest's name, nationality and passport number. This system has been in place for a long time. The new regulations mean that the sex worker's details must be recorded to show that she spent time with the foreign national. Essentially, these details are added to the foreign visitor's Immigration record, and not a central database of the Foreign Service Worker Card holders!"
LOL. Fantastic weekly column!
Stickman is a bastard. I will kick his ass when I meet him next time. ROFLMAO.
Giotto
PS: Most likely the Thai immigration will report all the details to the families address of the "foreigner" ... you then reach San Serriffe by Tsunami!
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There are some interesting ramifications. Does it mean your good girl date is going to be accused of being a prostitute and barred entrance to your hotel? .Tiny 12,
Don't worry.
Mrs. Giotto applied for the "Foreign Service Worker's Card" already. And she still doesn't feel like a prostitute. I am more worried about the RFID chip inside the card. Connected to a movement detector we have to install below the bed that registers all activities. Damned Thai bureaucracy! They definitely want to know everything.
Giotto
Who are you? The Dr BJ apologist? Either that or he has been servicing you.
The facts are he came on here giving it the big one on here and has put alot of potential business off coming his way. If you have a little look back through his posts you will see the disrespect, attitude, and unnecessary attacks that I am referring to.Wolf Hound,
With all due respect: Who are you (if I am allowed to ask )?
I know Dr. BJ, he is a nice guy (strange nationality though). What beef do you have with him?
Look, write some reports about the places you like. And if you don't like the Salon - Ok! Of course - Dr. BJ runs his business here in Bangkok, but WE ALL KNOW THAT. HE TOLD US FROM THE BEGINNING.
So what?
Giotto
PS: 10 posts, and NO INFORMATION for the members at all.
Traveler1234
04-02-12, 21:00
Mrs. Giotto applied for the "Foreign Service Worker's Card" already.
GiottoMrs. G or do you mean Auntie? LOL.
PS. Mouse. I was trying to keep the chit chat going, you ruined it!
Mrs. G or do you mean Auntie? LOL.
PS. Mouse. I was trying to keep the chit chat going, you ruined it!T1234,
Difficult to distinguish. No comment without talking to my lawyer first.
Giotto
I took a day off today. Spending some time in the lower Sukhumvit area.
Soi 33 is dying, no customers at all. We had the worst March ever. And I doubt that the road will recover.
Spent some time at Bangkok Beat Soi 7/1 (where the Eden Club is).10:30 pm. 11:30 pm, the selection of girls was a catastrophe (compared to a year ago, when I was there last time). The place is a gay mens club now.
Midnight: Climax. Still ok, though empty. Some lookers there. But not many. And - lots of young men competing with me handsome young man with a large wallet. Fuck them! Damned, if the young men cannot get laid any more without coming to Thailand - how will all this end up?
The nightlife scene in Bangkok is changing. I have no idea what is going on. But what I saw today is worrisome. I would not call this a "selection" at all.
Last week I visited Patpong, first time in 18 months. Forget it! Gogo Bars empty. Lot's of ladyboys! No fun at all.
Yikes! I hope the yellow shirts will close the airport again, for the next 2 years or so.
Giotto
Traveler1234
04-02-12, 22:48
Soi 33 is dying, no customers at all. We had the worst March ever. And I doubt that the road will recover.
GiottoThe times are a'changing. So sad. Hope things turn around!
Western787
04-03-12, 00:31
In regard to Stickman's report which he published on April 1 (April Fools Day in most Farang based countries even Iran) , when I went to cross check the story, I couldn't find any original sources, nor does Stickman provide any links. I could only find a reference to certain Governors in Thailand calling for enforecement of an old exixting rule on hotels tracking foreign guests, but this to help the with terrorist issues.
1. The story if true in practical terms would probably take down a large portion of the commerical sex trade in Thailand, along with much of the economy. Among other things, every married visitor doing ST or LT to a hotel (but not ST in a ST bar I would guess) with a with a bar girl would end up with a permanent record containing precise info of every single bar girl he has been with, along with time and location. Supposedly not at a central data base but just on his permanent immigration card? LOL You believe Thailand will do that? The article talks about Thais concerned about Farangs parading WG's around, but the regulations do nothing to address any such displays. Thais of course exempted from all this. LOL.
2. It appears to exempt massage parlours, escort services, and and many other venues.
3. Those renting apartments or having long term stay arrangements would be exempt.
4. Not only no impact on free lancers, it would encourage even more workers to become free lancers, probably adding to the HIV issue.
5. The regulation does nothing to fix the central crisis in regard to HIV in Thailand, the extraordinary high rates of HIV in the gay community. Stats currently show one third of all gays in Bangkok show up as HIV positive, an incredibly high number, and it would seem they would stop Lady Boys from engaging in prostitution as that is where the major problem is, yet the regulation does nothing.
6. As far as Thais supposedly disgusted with Farangs behavior, what about the 2nd wives issue, which is known to be prevalent in Thailand. That's also a moral issue.
7. For many ex Pats living in Thailand would be a windfall as WG prices would drop, and as non hotel users, they would be exempt. Not sure if the government would want to encourage more Sex Pat types
What's with the sudden rash of posts from this Giotto character. Is there anything useful at all in them, as I cannot take anything he says seriously. Is he gearing up for the next flood season? Is he trying to upstage BJ man for advertising? Is soi 33 really dead? Does one have to be a guest at his lodge to get helpful advise? C'man, Gboy, tell us what you found in low sukh, the FL & SW's there, with pics of course, and especially the NPL & hotel. And don't forget Liquid disco. LOL.
Hahahahahaha! We all know good girls who go to hotels are prostitutes.Harold, Actually all girls who f*ck are prostitutes.
Rehashing what many have said before, it's just that the wives and girlfriends cost a lot more. Mrs. G for instance -- it's refreshing that there's at least one woman in this world that recognizes that and has even gone so far as to get her Foreign Service Worker's Card.
Who are you? The Dr BJ apologist? Either that or he has been servicing you.No, I've never met the guy, never been to his bar and not planning to go, I don't do BJ bars. I just don't like negative attitudes and I think your criticism is unwarranted. Brighten up and post something useful. So far Dr. BJ beats you easily in the useful posts category.
In regard to Stickman's report which he published on April 1 (April Fools Day in most Farang based countries even Iran) , when I went to cross check the story, I couldn't find any original sources, nor does Stickman provide any links.Duh....
I took a day off today. Spending some time in the lower Sukhumvit area.
Soi 33 is dying, no customers at all. We had the worst March ever. And I doubt that the road will recover.
Spent some time at Bangkok Beat Soi 7/1 (where the Eden Club is).10:30 pm. 11:30 pm, the selection of girls was a catastrophe (compared to a year ago, when I was there last time). The place is a gay mens club now.
Midnight: Climax. Still ok, though empty. Some lookers there. But not many. And. Lots of young men competing with me handsome young man with a large wallet. Fuck them! Damned, if the young men cannot get laid any more without coming to Thailand. How will all this end up?
The nightlife scene in Bangkok is changing. I have no idea what is going on. But what I saw today is worrisome. I would not call this a "selection" at all.
Last week I visited Patpong, first time in 18 months. Forget it! Gogo Bars empty. Lot's of ladyboys! No fun at all.
Yikes! I hope the yellow shirts will close the airport again, for the next 2 years or so.
GiottoI would say the scene will never recover its former glory. Development has caught up with BKK and the "scene," especially Sukhumvit. Reasons? Lots of 'them. Changing demographics for one. Lower Sukhumvit is a disaster. No longer the domain of Western tourists, the place is now populated with Middle Easterners, Africans, and Indians, not the working girls favorites for sure and I believe it keeps many of them out of the area. The street market till midnight and the bars littering the street at night see filth at a new level. BG Soi 7 is abysmal. Most of the ladies working there could be grandmothers and many have the stones to ask for 1. 5k. Thermae is indeed the playground for the Japanese now, and to tell you the truth there are some cuties there but nowhere near what was seen even a year ago.
Working girls also are well aware of their value now. Hotties work the late night discos, Hotels, G Clubs, and with the atmospheric rise in salaries among Thai workers (educated that is) , there are fewer "part timers." GoGo girls that are attractive work in a few select bars where they command big money, leaving most GoGos devoid of talent. So the "market" is in fact killing the "market." There seem to be way more punters than there are great looking girls these days, a trend I am afraid will continue.
Prices are another factor. BKK is not longer a cheap playground, and before all of you start your "I'm rich" ranting please just look at the economics. Dinner and drinks with the boys, drinks, BF, and ST with a GoGo girl used to run around 3k baht or 75 USD "back in the day." I would say you would be hard pressed to do that for double these days. Yes, that does effect business and does effect the number of guys that come here from Western countries. I see fewer and fewer of the regulars here.
Me, I rarely go out to the "bars" these days. Prices aside, it is just not really "fun" anymore. There are other things that I love about this city and country, food, the up and coming Thai Football league, hanging with friends and drinking a good beer (for the same price as a local brew in Cowboy) , and hitting the oilies in the afternoon when the mood stirs within me.
Things change. BKK is the most dynamic place I have ever lived. It will continue to evolve and the "scene" as we know it will change along with it, and I would think not to most of our likings, but hey, every day there is some newbie who is getting his first piece of bought Thai tail and thinks he has found heaven and for awhile he will sit on his cloud while we are left with our memories of the "good ole days" and to try and squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of the place while we still can. I'm staying.
Peace!
Arrived in BKK at 5am this morning and checked in at hotel two hours later. I do recommend the VIP service at:
http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html.
Really smooth sailing through immigration out to the waiting limo. At 3600 BHT roundtrip it is a steal when you have been flying all night.
After a little nap and shopping of essentials went for first goal: Annies Soapy Massage which is just around the corner from hotel. Good selection of girls at 2PM and I choose nr 69. She's a tiny girl with a nice bubble butt and proceedings followed what I assume is the standard schedule. Soapy massage with the little tiny thing sliding around both front and back then into the tub for a thorough scrub. Then followed a very nice BBBJ in the tub until CIM.
Wash off and onto the bed for an oil massage that proceeded into an oily HJ. Decided to not cum cause I wanted to save it for later but she had a lovely tight pussy (trimmed but not shaved, just the way I like it). Very nice to eat from behind.
Basic english with loads of accent so hard to understand but a nice personality I got along fine with and a trooper who BJ to completion although her small mouth was stretching rather wide. I called it quits after 1. 30 hrs and went to get a beer at a bar across NANA. Seems to be a good selection of young SWs in the afternoon already. Some SG types if you're into that. Now naptime and NANA later, an establishment I conveniently can look down at from my room. Good times in LOS,
Cal
Franco Cozzo
04-03-12, 11:19
I respect you and what you pay. But please stop implying stunners will go with you for 1, 000. For 1000 you'll be lucky to get below avg. Looker!Huh? Maybe re-read my post, I said quite the opposite: "I believe ST will be a fair bit more than 1K (BF will eat most of that up) , and you will generally have to hit it off or be fairly generous with LDs (and offered fee) to make it happen." 1K will only cover the BF and lady drinks for most 'stunners', especially in Bangkok, and then you will pay a pretty penny for the lady as well.
All girls I consider stunners (and even a few that were not) cost me 2000K. 3000K LT, and that is after BF, LDs and a fair amount of shmoozing.
Wolf Hound,
With all due respect: Who are you (if I am allowed to ask )?
I know Dr. BJ, he is a nice guy (strange nationality though). What beef do you have with him?
Look, write some reports about the places you like. And if you don't like the Salon. Ok! Of course. Dr. BJ runs his business here in Bangkok, but WE ALL KNOW THAT. HE TOLD US FROM THE BEGINNING.
So what?
Giotto.
PS: 10 posts, and no information for the members at all.Practice what you preach!
Is soi 33 really dead? Does one have to be a guest at his lodge to get helpful advise?Soi 33 is not seeing much action otehr than the ladies trying to pull in the few men passing by.
This is what I have witnesssed in a few nights in the recent 3 weeks.
Livingstone Lodge sees a new bunch of girls in the Sports Bar, but language is at a challenge in communicating with some of them due to english skills. Seems a refreshening took place in the last weeks.
Probably the team is not yet sorted as one I picked up one night was not there anymore less than a week later, and was not missing as BF'd.
I would say the scene will never recover its former glory. Development has caught up with BKK and the "scene," especially Sukhumvit. Reasons? Lots of 'them. Changing demographics for one. Lower Sukhumvit is a disaster. No longer the domain of Western tourists, the place is now populated with Middle Easterners, Africans, and Indians, not the working girls favorites for sure and I believe it keeps many of them out of the area. The street market till midnight and the bars littering the street at night see filth at a new level. BG Soi 7 is abysmal. Most of the ladies working there could be grandmothers and many have the stones to ask for 1. 5k. Thermae is indeed the playground for the Japanese now, and to tell you the truth there are some cuties there but nowhere near what was seen even a year ago.
Working girls also are well aware of their value now. Hotties work the late night discos, Hotels, G Clubs, and with the atmospheric rise in salaries among Thai workers (educated that is) , there are fewer "part timers." GoGo girls that are attractive work in a few select bars where they command big money, leaving most GoGos devoid of talent. So the "market" is in fact killing the "market." There seem to be way more punters than there are great looking girls these days, a trend I am afraid will continue.
Prices are another factor. BKK is not longer a cheap playground, and before all of you start your "I'm rich" ranting please just look at the economics. Dinner and drinks with the boys, drinks, BF, and ST with a GoGo girl used to run around 3k baht or 75 USD "back in the day." I would say you would be hard pressed to do that for double these days. Yes, that does effect business and does effect the number of guys that come here from Western countries. I see fewer and fewer of the regulars here.
Me, I rarely go out to the "bars" these days. Prices aside, it is just not really "fun" anymore. There are other things that I love about this city and country, food, the up and coming Thai Football league, hanging with friends and drinking a good beer (for the same price as a local brew in Cowboy) , and hitting the oilies in the afternoon when the mood stirs within me.
Things change. BKK is the most dynamic place I have ever lived. It will continue to evolve and the "scene" as we know it will change along with it, and I would think not to most of our likings, but hey, every day there is some newbie who is getting his first piece of bought Thai tail and thinks he has found heaven and for awhile he will sit on his cloud while we are left with our memories of the "good ole days" and to try and squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of the place while we still can. I'm staying.
Peace!Thailand has basically zero unemployment now, many places cannot get workers for real jobs, let alone being a slapper. This leads to increasing wages and prices and a big drop in the supply of girls.
The girls are getting more educated, they know its easy to rip farangs off via the internet, they know they can get more money for less bang by going to nighclubs, hotel clubs, G-clubs. And so this leads to a drop in girls servicing tourists.
The girls themselves are complaining over a lack of farang tourists and this is leading to many changing their profession or the way they go about it.
I enjoy BKK greatly, but I am not a tourist and have the luxury of time, which allows me to play the game how I want to play it.
The girls too are complaining that the scene is changing. They are not happy as well. But change it will. Even if all parties are not happy about it. Things always change.
Tony Hoeprano
04-03-12, 21:13
With all the negative Nancies on here proclaiming BKK is about as fun as spending time with middle aged soccer moms in Utah, I should just cancel my holiday, stay home, and fap to kaintuck's photo thread!
I'll still take my chances.
With all the negative Nancies on here proclaiming BKK is about as fun as spending time with middle aged soccer moms in Utah, I should just cancel my holiday, stay home, and fap to kaintuck's photo thread!
I'll still take my chances.Ha ha Tony, couldn't agree more. Reading 40+ posts back in this thread and I'm considering killing myself because I just bought a ticket for BKK. Reading here makes it seem like the worst mistake of my life.
I have to say that I was a little bit disappointed by heaven aka. Nana Entertainment Plaza. If I was in a bad mood I'd call it dirty, smelly with hundreds of bored to death girls shuffling their feet. However, I assume it's an acquired taste and I'll certainly be back to try my luck again.
Went through 6 or 7 gogos without finding anything in particular but, go figure, in Obsession the LB's were obviously the most gorgeous bunch of them all. Haven't had one since Amsterdam two years ago so I happily invited Joy over for a drink. There is no way I could have told that she's not a pure lady. Extremely pretty early 20's preop with decent English (she claims she's 19 and I could believe that if I didn't know better). Took her short time upstairs for some fun and games. She's got a super realistic see-cup, tight ass and great body but she's very passive. Will not repeat even though she's smoking.
9 years going to BKK and I've seen little change, maybe a little change in popular venues but BKK is same same! Corrupt countries see very little change-which is what most of us want. Hahahaha.
We don't need another Hong kong or Singapore on our hands.But in effect, that is what you are getting, well, on the surface that is. Sukhumvit is turning into one big mall. From Siam to The Emporium, all you have are shopping malls and hotels. They are even tearing down the Scala theater to make room for more shopping. They are doing their best to emulate Sing and HK, except they don't have the infrastructure, the transparency, etc. So in effect, it is the worst of two worlds.
The only problem with Sing is the cost. Bars stay open late and there is plenty of P4P available and you can actually make money there.
Practice what you preach!Mooris7,
Now you make me feel bad! Sitting here, completely depressed, how could it happen that I did not live up to the high standards of the reports in this thread? Shouldn't we continue our discussions about overpaying and tipping? You really made me think, my friend.
Let's see, what I can do for you.
I was out again yesterday! Let's start with the area around Washington Square.
Washington Square
Most of the bars are now closed there. They had to move out on 01. 03. 2012, a major construction project is due to start soon. But. Obviously there are some delays, the last remaining bars got an extension of their lease agreement for another 3 months, and some managers are expecting this to continue until the end of this year.
Bourbon Street: Gone. They opened somewhere else. I read that somewhere, but I don't remember where.
Sportsmanclub: (the bar located on the ground floor of the old Mambo cabaret building) Deserted. 5 customers in this huge bar / restaurant / pool bar.
Dubliner: Still some customers, BUT NO LEFFE BEER. What the hell ... why do I go there then, if they don't have LEFFE draft?
Soi 33
Wall Street: 5 girls, no customer.
Lookie Lookie: some girls, no customer.
Green Parrot: some girls, no customer.
No-name bar: (A new bar at the end of the side road close to Wall Street, left hand side) had some customer, but no girls.
Dali: first time, that I was in there in years now. Dali made my day yesterday.
The owner merged Dali with Monet (same owner) on the old Dali premises. The arrangement is strange. Dali was cut in half, a wall was build in the middle of the old Dali. The bar (before a round setup in the middle of the old Dal)i is now cut in half, too. One half is in the new Dali, the other half in Monet.
Dali still employes the 204 year old beautiful Mamasan, one of the unique "landmarks" of Soi 33. And. There are approximately 10 girls working there. 4 or 5 of them lookers. Tall girls, slim. Nice to look at. A friend of mine took one of them out, THB 840 bar fine (after 11 pm, strange amount). A looker, but a non-performer.
Monet: The other half of the old Dali. 4.6 girls dressed in red yesterday, not worth to mention. The older generation of the combined Dali / Monet girls crew. Grandmothers party.
That was it for yesterday.
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Mooris7, I hope makes up a little bit for my disastrous contributions of the past to this forum. And I would really post a photo, but I simply don't have a picture from you. So sorry!
OK, now you, something informative like this:
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Don't insult me again or I would be happy to meet you somewhere and we can see how far from middle school I really am. You know I hate people who talk big behind a computer but can't do anything in person. Sorry Jackson in advance for posting this but he rally got under my skin! I apologize to other forum members!I hope you don't feel insulted by my report about Washington Square and Soi 33 – I apologize for my writing style, but sadly I did not make it to middle school.
Giotto
Thailand has basically zero unemployment now, many places cannot get workers for real jobs, let alone being a slapper. This leads to increasing wages and prices and a big drop in the supply of girls.
The girls are getting more educated, they know its easy to rip farangs off via the internet, they know they can get more money for less bang by going to nighclubs, hotel clubs, G-clubs. And so this leads to a drop in girls servicing tourists.
The girls themselves are complaining over a lack of farang tourists and this is leading to many changing their profession or the way they go about it.
I enjoy BKK greatly, but I am not a tourist and have the luxury of time, which allows me to play the game how I want to play it.
The girls too are complaining that the scene is changing. They are not happy as well. But change it will. Even if all parties are not happy about it. Things always change.The Pro,
I completely agree, precise analysis.
It's more important than ever to know the places that are "in" right now, and also to know the service providers of the oilies / soapies. Bangkok still offers plenty of opportunities to have fun. But more than ever before the hunters need to know where and to whom they need to go.
Giotto
Friar Tuck
04-04-12, 10:23
C'mon you guys! Stop whining and complaining about the state of play.
What Bangkok was like 5, 10 or 20 years ago is irrelevant. It's what it is like today that counts.
Bangkok is still loaded with chicks, ready, willing and able to play. Pro's, part timers and amateurs abound in this city!
You don't have to lower your standards, but you may have to raise your game in this more competitive market.
This board is about the exchange of information to enable you to do this.
There are many social media available to be used, the game is changing, adapt or miss out.
The glass is half full, not half empty.
Enjoy this great city and everything it has to offer!
Tuck.
GentleBoner
04-04-12, 10:38
Unemployment is very low in Thailand (officially 1%). That said, what an uneducated Isaan girl straight off the bus can make in a job (about 7, 000 baht monthly) still makes the working life an attractive one.
I think the problem is more that bar-oriented farang and japanese tourists are at a real low. Between the 2008 economic crisis, the 2011 EU crisis and the Japanese earthquake, less people are in a heavy spending mood, despite some of the bragging you see on this forum. Thai Tourism is trying to replace them with Chinese, Russians and Indians. But the Chinese come in big tour groups of 50 or 60 with women and children and don't speak any English, Russian men always bring their wives and girlfriends and don't seem too interested in thai bargirls, and the Indians aren't allowed into gogo bars.
I visited Pattaya recently and it's now almost all Russians except for a few Indians. I heard it in Phnom Penh too. "Boring now. No customer".
Put all this together, combined with rising prices and an exchange rate that isn't as great anymore, and revenue is likely dropping.
Washington Square and Soi 33 are dying first and only the biggest name places seem to still have a good flow of customers. The industry as a whole will have to rethink itself.
Many I'm sure would like Bangkok to turn into Singapore or HK, but I can see that failing. There simply isn't the international business here to make that sustainable.
One Tree Hill
04-04-12, 11:23
For some reason it just dawned on me that he no longer post here. Anyone know why?
For some reason it just dawned on me that he no longer post here. Anyone know why?Yep.
To make a long story short, OTH got himself into a pissing contest with Jackson and lost.
He found out the hard way it's Jackson's forum.
It's funny how some say there are too many guys coming to Thailand these days (and it's ruining the market) , and others say there aren't enough customers these days (and it's ruining the market).
C'mon you guys! Stop whining and complaining about the state of play.
What Bangkok was like 5, 10 or 20 years ago is irrelevant. It's what it is like today that counts.
Bangkok is still loaded with chicks, ready, willing and able to play. Pro's, part timers and amateurs abound in this city!
You don't have to lower your standards, but you may have to raise your game in this more competitive market.
This board is about the exchange of information to enable you to do this.
There are many social media available to be used, the game is changing, adapt or miss out.
The glass is half full, not half empty.
Enjoy this great city and everything it has to offer!
Tuck.Tomorrow I plan to pay my first visit to Nana Plaza. I plan to check out playschool. Anyone interested PM me
Mooris7,
Now you make me feel bad! Sitting here, completely depressed, how could it happen that I did not live up to the high standards of the reports in this thread? Shouldn't we continue our discussions about overpaying and tipping? You really made me think, my friend.
Let's see, what I can do for you.
I was out again yesterday! Let's start with the area around Washington Square.
Washington Square
Most of the bars are now closed there. They had to move out on 01. 03. 2012, a major construction project is due to start soon. But. Obviously there are some delays, the last remaining bars got an extension of their lease agreement for another 3 months, and some managers are expecting this to continue until the end of this year.
Bourbon Street: Gone. They opened somewhere else. I read that somewhere, but I don't remember where.
Sportsmanclub: (the bar located on the ground floor of the old Mambo cabaret building) Deserted. 5 customers in this huge bar / restaurant / pool bar.
Dubliner: Still some customers, BUT NO LEFFE BEER. What the hell. Why do I go there then, if they don't have LEFFE draft?
Soi 33
Wall Street: 5 girls, no customer.
Lookie Lookie: Some girls, no customer.
Green Parrot: Some girls, no customer.
No-name bar: (A new bar at the end of the side road close to Wall Street, left hand side) had some customer, but no girls.
Dali: First time, that I was in there in years now. Dali made my day yesterday.
The owner merged Dali with Monet (same owner) on the old Dali premises. The arrangement is strange. Dali was cut in half, a wall was build in the middle of the old Dali. The bar (before a round setup in the middle of the old Dal) I is now cut in half, too. One half is in the new Dali, the other half in Monet.
Dali still employes the 204 year old beautiful Mamasan, one of the unique "landmarks" of Soi 33. And. There are approximately 10 girls working there. 4 or 5 of them lookers. Tall girls, slim. Nice to look at. A friend of mine took one of them out, THB 840 bar fine (after 11 pm, strange amount). A looker, but a non-performer.
Monet: The other half of the old Dali. 4.6 girls dressed in red yesterday, not worth to mention. The older generation of the combined Dali / Monet girls crew. Grandmothers party.
That was it for yesterday.
Mooris7, I hope makes up a little bit for my disastrous contributions of the past to this forum. And I would really post a photo, but I simply don't have a picture from you. So sorry!
OK, now you, something informative like this:
I hope you don't feel insulted by my report about Washington Square and Soi 33 – I apologize for my writing style, but sadly I did not make it to middle school.
GiottoI don't plan to research your posts but I would not call that a report. Just rambling about what you saw on a tour of some bars where you did not spend any money LOL. Let's here a report about a girl you bar fined recently. One in the last 30 days though, not ten years back. How about a massage report? Your last experience at Nataree perhaps. Not to years ago but recently. Anyways cheers to you bud for being the king of Bangkok. Where in your mind, prices are too high. The young guys steel all the stunners, bar fines are too high bla bla bla. I invite you out tomorrow to go to Nana for my first visit there. Beers on me. I want to see the legend in action.
Ralph Kramden
04-04-12, 13:12
I think there is a good chance OTH has left Thailand anyway because he got canned from his relatively well paid university job and is probably pushing 60, which makes his chances of getting something similar quite remote. He seemed tired of Thailand in general and Thais in particular. When that happens it is time to pull the plug and move back home. JMPO
Traveler1234
04-04-12, 13:19
For some reason it just dawned on me that he no longer post here. Anyone know why?Quite a few who have left the Board since OTH's rantings of a couple of years ago.
I don't plan to research your posts but I would not call that a report. Just rambling about what you saw on a tour of some bars where you did not spend any money LOL. Let's here a report about a girl you bar fined recently. One in the last 30 days though, not ten years back. How about a massage report? Your last experience at Nataree perhaps. Not to years ago but recently. Anyways cheers to you bud for being the king of Bangkok. Where in your mind, prices are too high. The young guys steel all the stunners, bar fines are too high bla bla bla. I invite you out tomorrow to go to Nana for my first visit there. Beers on me. I want to see the legend in action.Are you then looking to know how stretchable is the girl p* to host the big farang boner?
Do you want to know if that specific girl, forgetting YMMV, is a performer? Maybe supported by gyno pictures proving it was a real intercourse and not only leaning a dick in the proximity of the girl holes?
I honestly prefer to have some information as those just posted by Giotto. They can be enriched by some feedback on girls, but that will not represent the hessence of a report.
Unless one is looking for some porn novel, full of details. But then location is irrelevant as the benefits of that can be enjoyed at home, typing with one hand.
We are now curious to read your first report on your first Nana experience. Are we getting it day after tomorrow?
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Where in your mind, prices are too high.
... bar fines are too high.Mooris7,
Did I really mention this? I am not so sure.
Thanks for the invitation, BTW, but I am not really into Nana. I usually don't go to this HiSo entertainment areas. I prefer the street walkers around Lumpini Park and the Thai KTV's in the suburbs, serving the foreign construction workers. As for Nataree, I don't go there any more, the girls are simply too old for me.
Giotto
Wolf Hound
04-04-12, 15:34
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It's funny how some say there are too many guys coming to Thailand these days (and it's ruining the market) , and others say there aren't enough customers these days (and it's ruining the market).I think the issue is more with the dwindling number of new faces in the "biz."
What do you mean who am I? As in my real name? Why would that have anything to do with regards to my opinion on Dr Crock Aka Dr BJ?
Tell you what Giotto, bring yourself out from your dead ass bar And meet me for a beer and I will gladly show you who I am. Just because someone has a different opinion about a business than you gives you no right to ask 'who they are'!
I'm in Bangkok on business next week and you really don't want to rub me up the wrong way. You ain't dealing an overweight sissy Giotto.My oh my,
Things must have changed lately. Mongering seems to be a very very serious business nowadays.
Giotto
PS:
Who are you? …
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With all due respect: Who are you (if I am allowed to ask )?
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It was possibly just a 'rhetoric' response?
Does anyone know where I can purchase an Asian Flight Attendant uniform (preferably the one with the little hat) In or around Bangkok? Maybe a costume store?
Suntangh R
04-05-12, 11:58
What do you mean who am I? As in my real name? Why would that have anything to do with regards to my opinion on Dr Crock aka Dr BJ?
I'm in Bangkok on business next week and you really don't want to rub me up the wrong way. You ain't dealing an overweight sissy Giotto.WH,
Take it easy! It's all in fun- a good repartee would have done your job!
I don't think aggression is called for. Just go out and enjoy yourself.
i' really mixing it up on is trip but on the other hand, how can you not when the offerings are so varied? as reported earlier started with a standard looker at annies soapy the first day followed by a pretty lb later the same day. on to day 2.
day2.
went back to nana although i had plans to see soi cowboy but i was too lazy with nana just around the corner. went through almost the reminder of bars i didn't visit the first night and got pretty wobbly even though i tried to leave some fluids in the glass. i couldn't really decide what to choose so figured i walk out and recuperate. obviously, fate decided at that moment i should try one of the teeny type sws outside the parking lot because 10 minutes later i found myself in the short-time room back at nana with 19 yr old (she claims and i could believe it) joy. a joyful experience and she was quite happy to stay a while and give me a back rub. sweet girl actually.
day 3.
isn't really over yet since i plan to go back and watch the zoo at nana when 2am comes rolling in. however, i had a blast in las vegas which obviously specializes in schoolgirl types. i'm sure they were all 20+ but they looked barely legal. anyway, very few customers and floor girl smiles sweetly at me when she brings my black and coke and i offer her a drink just because she's cute. she promptly returns with a tequila, informs me she's going to get drunk tonight, toss it down and cuddles up. suddenly her equally cute friend shows up and yeah, i ended up buying 2 or 3 rounds for the whole floor staff including mamasan so quite a party was developing in my corner and i had no limbs left for more girls. this obviously interested the dancing crew and one of them had already made me laugh several times cause she's a wild package. she was dancing like a maniac pretty much all the time and frequently jumped down and ran around the room, arms waving. looked a lot like a drunk kitten, seriously! obviously i couldn't let her down so she got a couple of shots too before i took her to the short time room.
this mae (or may maybe) is by far the tiniest girl i ever fucked. 32 kg and complaining she's fat and want to go down to 30! my hands could reach around her waist and she could almost suck me standing up without even bending down. she was great fun and cuddly with all the bits and pieces in the right places despite her small frame. however, when i flipped her over into missionary and started entering her she started waving her arms, kicking in the air and squeal so i'm like "oh sorry, i hurt you". she stops, big smile."no". i'm thinking ok and starts pushing further and she starts waving and kicking again."oh, too big?"." no, too small". well ok then, i go at it full speed ahead and she kicks, waves and squeal. totally surreal, she's putting on some kind of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) act and i'm almost laughing. she's getting very wet after a while so its a bit hard to cum but when i finally am empty she smiles up at me, gives the thumbs up and go "good bombom?" fine, but weird thank you mam.
guess i should take a shower and head back down. can't waste the last evening in the hotell room.
One Tree Hill
04-05-12, 17:06
I think there is a good chance OTH has left Thailand anyway because he got canned from his relatively well paid university job and is probably pushing 60, which makes his chances of getting something similar quite remote. He seemed tired of Thailand in general and Thais in particular. When that happens it is time to pull the plug and move back home. JMPOYup. I am pretty sure I know where he used to teach. He did put it "out there" on this forum. Perhaps he got "outted" at his Hi-So University for things implied and otherwise on the forum (including uni-girl pics).
No offense but the farangs seem to be a BIT of a whiny crowd. The market is what it is-deal with it.
The Singaporeans seems to have a lot more fun and are more upbeat in their postings.
They started to post about Saphan Khwai area, cheaper than Nana and Soi cowboy as Thais are main clientele, anyone here have opinions or reports?
Seems you can feel up pretty girls at reasonable prices. LOL. It s on my to do list!The market is what we the customers make it. Letting one's ego get in the way is what effects it more than anything else.
Another thought on why so many angry guys here. I get the feeling most of you brought up socialists-you have no idea how markets work. AND NO THE CUSTOMERS DO NOT DRIVE PRICES alone- supply also plays a part.
Socialist are just angry people-they will never be happy. Free market people work to their best ability and have fun. If they think los is too expensive they go to Burma. LOL.Please take your patronising, simplistic and irrelevant comments elsewhere. This is a forum for exchange of information on mongering, not primary school politics.
No offense but the farangs seem to be a BIT of a whiny crowd.None taken.
Whiny? Not like your good self?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1264738&viewfull=1#post1264738
Another thought on why so many angry guys here. I get the feeling most of you brought up socialists-you have no idea how markets work. AND NO THE CUSTOMERS DO NOT DRIVE PRICES alone- supply also plays a part.
Socialist are just angry people-they will never be happy. Free market people work to their best ability and have fun. If they think los is too expensive they go to Burma. LOL.Really? Now, are those are the free market bankers that ruined the world economy? Sorry it is trickle up not trickle down. We know supply side does not work, we are living through the aftermath of it now. So, yes, the consumer is the market, always has been and always will be. Same is true here in BKK. If punters would pay 1k baht, that would be the market, but of course ego gets in the way and a male will pay pay pay.
But, I live here, so I can happily wait till low season and get for a song what folks will pay dearly for during high season.
So, yes, the consumer is the market, always has been and always will be. Same is true here in BKK. If punters would pay 1k baht, that would be the market, but of course ego gets in the way and a male will pay pay pay.Customers always control prices. If guys are willing to pay 2-3k ST then that's what girls will ask. Apparently there is no shortage of punters in BKK and Pattaya willing to pay prices like that today. Things have changed!
Dash Riprock
04-06-12, 10:39
If all the sideliners at Tarawadee (or rather Tarawadee itself) was charging 500 Baht a round (instead of 3700 to 8500 a round) , then it would be as packed as a Tesco Lotus all of the time. The market is what it is. Yes, customers do have a say in pricing, but they (nor suppliers) have 'control' over the market. For one, customers aren't some unified amoeba. They all have their self interests and requirements. I think a driver license and car registration tags in Bangkok should cost X thousand USD per year (better for the environment too) , but I doubt most of the local (and many tourists and expats) population would like that very much. It'd be smooth driving getting around town though.
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I think a driver license and car registration tags in Bangkok should cost X thousand USD per year (better for the environment too) , but I doubt most of the local (and many tourists and expats) population would like that very much. It'd be smooth driving getting around town though.I completely agree. Only the rich can drive cars then. That's what I call a "socially balanced" idea!
Giotto
Customers always control prices. If guys are willing to pay 2-3k ST then that's what girls will ask. Apparently there is no shortage of punters in BKK and Pattaya willing to pay prices like that today. Things have changed!You are correct sir! Yes, they have changed and will continue to.
Tony Hoeprano
04-06-12, 11:43
If all the sideliners at Tarawadee (or rather Tarawadee itself) was charging 500 Baht a round (instead of 3700 to 8500 a round) , then it would be as packed as a Tesco Lotus all of the time.And this is a good thing that the hot girls are more $$$$. If I want a hottie, I wouldn't want her after she just got done banging some filthy backpacker who can't afford a bar of soap. High prices keep the undesirables away from their pollutants!
Does anyone know where I can purchase an Asian Flight Attendant uniform (preferably the one with the little hat) In or around Bangkok? Maybe a costume store?In Patpong across from the Beer Garden there is a shop that sells all types of these uniforms.
If all the sideliners at Tarawadee (or rather Tarawadee itself) was charging 500 Baht a round (instead of 3700 to 8500 a round) , then it would be as packed as a Tesco Lotus all of the time. The market is what it is. Yes, customers do have a say in pricing, but they (nor suppliers) have 'control' over the market. For one, customers aren't some unified amoeba. They all have their self interests and requirements. I think a driver license and car registration tags in Bangkok should cost X thousand USD per year (better for the environment too) , but I doubt most of the local (and many tourists and expats) population would like that very much. It'd be smooth driving getting around town though.The number of really pretty girls at Tarawadee, like most soapies, is rather limited. Lines of fake noses don't impress me. Many are over priced. I decided it was just not worth the trip out there any more.
There are many ways to improve the traffic situation. One would be to long ago limit the total number of taxi licenses. There are at least twice as many taxis as what is needed in Bangkok. Taxis are a very major contributor to traffic jams. I often look down the line of a traffic jam to see at least 30% of vehicles are taxis.
In Patpong across from the Beer Garden there is a shop that sells all types of these uniforms.Thank you sir!
I don't plan to research your posts but I would not call that a report. Just rambling about what you saw on a tour of some bars where you did not spend any money LOL. Let's here a report about a girl you bar fined recently. One in the last 30 days though, not ten years back.Actually, the post was a reasonable summary of the lack of action going on in the area. He can't post about his mongering as he is not anonymous and GF might check his posts too. People need some privacy which is why I don't have a PM facility. You should not worry so much about what others are posting, and just keep providing yourself. If others post a load of rubbish, they will get well known for it.
The number of really pretty girls at Tarawadee, like most soapies, is rather limited. Lines of fake noses don't impress me. Many are over priced. I decided it was just not worth the trip out there any more.
There are many ways to improve the traffic situation. One would be to long ago limit the total number of taxi licenses. There are at least twice as many taxis as what is needed in Bangkok. Taxis are a very major contributor to traffic jams. I often look down the line of a traffic jam to see at least 30% of vehicles are taxis.A recent report in the BKK post said that almost 400 new vehicles are registered in BKK every day and I would imagine most are private cars, not taxis. The infrastructure of this town is ill equipped to handle the volume of cars that are currently here. Easy cheap credit is an issue as is the want of every person making a decent salary to gain face by owning a car. The public tranny is already stressed. The platforms and trains are not adequate to handle the increasing number of commuters in BKK. I see no palatable solution to the issue. Perhaps a ERP zones like Sing has would discourage some drivers, but I fear far too few. With Thailand being a hub of auto production in Asia, the gov will not do anything to raise the ire of these companies, so we will be faced with a deteriorating situation as time goes on. The impact on productivity will be huge.
And this is a good thing that the hot girls are more $$$$. If I want a hottie, I wouldn't want her after she just got done banging some filthy backpacker who can't afford a bar of soap. High prices keep the undesirables away from their pollutants!What does it really matter? A shower and she is as good as new. No way for you to tell who she has been with.
Tony Hoeprano
04-06-12, 21:46
What does it really matter? A shower and she is as good as new. No way for you to tell who she has been with.It's like paying extra for fine dining, you not only pay for the food but the ambience, decor, and service. Would you appreciate it if you're in a fine restaurant and you're sitting next to belligerent neanderthals? If I want cheap, I'll head to McDonalds or burger King. There's nothing wrong with it, it is what it is. There will always be a premium on the finer things in life, whether it's cars, wine, real estate, or women.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive in thinking these girls are untouched, but I won't be paying a premium if she lacks class and allows mouth breathers and unclean people to sex her up.
GentleBoner
04-07-12, 00:53
It's like paying extra for fine dining, you not only pay for the food but the ambience, decor, and service. Would you appreciate it if you're in a fine restaurant and you're sitting next to belligerent neanderthals? If I want cheap, I'll head to McDonalds or burger King. There's nothing wrong with it, it is what it is. There will always be a premium on the finer things in life, whether it's cars, wine, real estate, or women.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive in thinking these girls are untouched, but I won't be paying a premium if she lacks class and allows mouth breathers and unclean people to sex her up.
Fine dining in the nightlife areas of Sukhumvit, where hundreds of new STD infections are shared every day and cockroaches scurry about on the pavement?
Delusional.
Such ego on this forum.
GentleBoner
04-07-12, 00:56
Politics does have impact on sex scene. In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.
I really doubt their is that big a difference in prices between Hi and lo season. Saying you wait till low season is absolutely insane- but good on you if that's what you do.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Goat-his economics are just all wrong!Work on mastering the there / their distinction before you worry too much about macroeconomics.
LittleBigMan
04-07-12, 06:09
Politics does have impact on sex scene. In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.
I really doubt their is that big a difference in prices between Hi and lo season. Saying you wait till low season is absolutely insane- but good on you if that's what you do.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Goat-his economics are just all wrong!Partially correct? It was the govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to those who couldn't afford it. But it was the free market that sold and sold and sold throughout the world those mortgages that were worthless and lied everyone they were good!
LBM
LittleBigMan
04-07-12, 06:24
it's like paying extra for fine dining, you not only pay for the food but the ambience, decor, and service. would you appreciate it if you're in a fine restaurant and you're sitting next to belligerent neanderthals? if i want cheap, i'll head to mcdonalds or burger king. there's nothing wrong with it, it is what it is. there will always be a premium on the finer things in life, whether it's cars, wine, real estate, or women.
don't get me wrong, i'm not naive in thinking these girls are untouched, but i won't be paying a premium if she lacks class and allows mouth breathers and unclean people to sex her up.that's great that you do but next time try to visit the kitchen of those fine dining places. you might be surprise what is so fine aside from the ambience, decor and service isn't? the guy that cooks that nice prime rib you like so much might have just taken a shit cleaned his ass with his hand with the hose from the toilet and then went straight back to marinate you prime rib his hand? or while his was taking his shit, the prime rib was being licked by the soi dogs who accidently roam into the kitchen area. your vegetable taste better too since it was laying on the floor and the same soi dog urinated on it while he was leaving.
looks can be deceiving so can ambience and decor. its like picking a stunner and not knowing most of the time what you are going to get? gfe / starfish?
when it comes to prices regarding low and high season you might be right not too much difference like 2000 st, at a go go now she takes 1500 st? but being in thailand when things get slow or tough they raise their prices or stubbornly stand put? low season might also mean a stunner who wouldn't travel far to your place might now?
enjoy, lbm
Hi, BJ here (again!)
I had a business meeting recently and the person I was meeting insisted on meeting at Spanky's in Nana (odd place to try and discuss business I know but that's what they wanted). There is a fine young lady there who I met in the Pattaya branch when I was down there for a Christmas party back in December. On that occasion the demon alcohol caught me out and as soon as the condom went on it was all over. I have taken her out of Nana a few times which has made the rest of the girls very reluctant to entertain me, I'm sure most of you are familiar with this phenomenon. No need to panic if I fancy a change I'm not exactly bereft of choice for other bars.
The discussions were wrapped up in about an hour and the lady in question had ceased dancing when I went in and had been grinning next to me the whole time (in case anyone is under the misconception I'm on some kind of peter string-fellow swaray again, name dropping myself everywhere I go, the lady has no idea who I am or what I do. In fact I prefer to remain anonymous as much as possible). Something I have learned from other business owners and through my own experiences.
The lady is, IMO, very good looking, although may not appeal to all. She is about 5 feet 2' tall has a sort of dyed blonde bob hair cut, enhanced breasts which look fabulous all the same, a tiny waist and a fabulous arse, other aspects which are fabulous and some other fabulous things about her. Did I remember to mention I think she is fabulous? Do not panic the good doctor is not about to get married and move to Chiang Mai with a fabulous young lady named Tic.
After getting back to my place and showering. I was reminded of the only down side to her, she does not do BBBJ she insists on a condom being used. However the compensating determination in her technique does make up for the condom being used, added to this I never try to strongly persuade / bribe these girls into doing anything they are not comfortable with. As some will remember I always start with the lady on top to get me warmed up and I have to say she was no star fish, she was very enthusiastic. Doggy was the next one and I grabbed her buttocks and pushed them apart until the red tea towel holder was winking up at me. I was in full swing now and smashed her for a good 5 minutes. At my age I was a bit tired by now so I whipped her over and united her ankles with her ears. She increased her moaning, real or not was not a paramount concern for me. A few minutes later and I blew my load, NICE!
To my horror when I took my wallet out I was 200 short. I really couldn't be bothered putting clothes on and going to an ATM so I promised her I would drop it off the following evening, because It wasn't the first time I had taken her out she agreed, kissed me on the cheek and told me I was very good (yeah, yeah I bet I'm the first guy you said that too). True to my word I went back to the bar and paid the lady what I owed her plus a tip at 8:30 as agreed. I had to hurry out of the bar as I was expecting a call from a nice young lady who had come up to stay with me for the three days I decided to take off work. Sure enough as soon as I walked out of the Plaza my phone rang and I took a deep breath and arranged to meet this lady in the beer Garden in Soi 7. I am planning to go to Pattaya for Songkram and will be meeting up with her so will post my experiences in due course.
In short Spanky's is a great bar which I highly recommend to everyone and Tik is a fantastic lady who I would urge anyone to try out (she has 4 tattoo's on her upper back area, see front of post for other identifying features).
Regards BJ
That's great that you do but next time try to visit the kitchen of those fine dining places. You might be surprise what is so fine aside from the ambience, decor and service isn't? The guy that cooks that nice prime rib you like so much might have just taken a shit cleaned his ass with his hand .... LBM,
Normally your stuff is readable, but this time I had to stop. Please return to normal.
Partially correct? It was the govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to those who couldn't afford it. But it was the free market that sold and sold and sold throughout the world those mortgages that were worthless and lied everyone they were good!
LBM100% correct. Allowing banks free rein has been the ruin of the US on several occasions. It is always the people vs the banks.
Dash Riprock
04-07-12, 14:55
The number of really pretty girls at Tarawadee, like most soapies, is rather limited. Lines of fake noses don't impress me. Many are over priced. I decided it was just not worth the trip out there any more.
There are many ways to improve the traffic situation. One would be to long ago limit the total number of taxi licenses. There are at least twice as many taxis as what is needed in Bangkok. Taxis are a very major contributor to traffic jams. I often look down the line of a traffic jam to see at least 30% of vehicles are taxis.
Of course, it's not some hidden treasure trove oasis, that's for sure. Definitely still worth a regular look and dip though, at least for me. Along with Utopia, Plaza Aqua 6th, Long Beach sideliners, Emmanuelle L class girls, Pretty Relax HJ (and sometimes more) 'pretties,' take the average 'better looking' girl at those places and compare to what most folks (in particular tourists with a limited time frame and range of roaming) consider 'high' end in the tourist pits and beer gardens, it's hard to argue in broad daylight that it's the same 'product' with just a different price tag. Nothing to do with ego or room decor either. It's easy to compare, it's not like those of us who have a certain preference have never visited the low end like V2, Viva, Biwa, Riviera, etc. Just for grins I've even visited places like Annie's and Darling in the past. Hardly the 'same thing' as Copa Cabana model lounge.
And yeah, when you limit the number of licenses (whether taxi or private vehicle) , you're invariably increasing the 'value' (and hence price. Whether up front or under the table) of available licenses. There's too many vehicles of all types, IMO. Money is the best way to weed out the market, especially when it's becoming increasingly more difficult for the masses to acquire it.
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.In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.Whoa. Slow down man. There was never a govt. Policy as all the banks have been de-regulated. So your analogy doesn't hold up.
Etaoin2003
04-07-12, 18:10
What does any of this have to do with sex in Bangkok? I thought ISG was the one place free of US rightwing political wingnuttery. I guess Obama's secret Muslim Nazi liberal socialist police state has shut down all the more appropriate forums. Either that, or it's Clinton's fault again.
Whoa. Slow down man. There was never a govt. Policy as all the banks have been de-regulated. So your analogy doesn't hold up.Correct. Never a govt. Only the rich pulling the strings!
Politics does have impact on sex scene. In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.
I really doubt their is that big a difference in prices between Hi and lo season. Saying you wait till low season is absolutely insane- but good on you if that's what you do.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Goat-his economics are just all wrong!Actually the world could have withstood the bad loans easily. It was the repackaging that crashed the economy. There should be only small student loans. It is insane that US Uni students have to go into the workforce heavily in debt. School should be paid for by tax money as should health care. If there is any left over let the military and the Justice Dept fight over it. Would love to see the pres forgive all student loans and force the banks to write them off. Would do the US population good.
Tony Hoeprano
04-07-12, 19:45
Fine dining in the nightlife areas of Sukhumvit, where hundreds of new STD infections are shared every day and cockroaches scurry about on the pavement?
Delusional.
Such ego on this forum.I never mentioned sukhumvit, and anyways what do you care how I spend my money? LOL
Of course, it's not some hidden treasure trove oasis, that's for sure. Definitely still worth a regular look and dip though, at least for me. Along with Utopia, Plaza Aqua 6th, Long Beach sideliners, Emmanuelle L class girls, Pretty Relax HJ (and sometimes more) 'pretties, ' take the average 'better looking' girl at those places and compare to what most folks (in particular tourists with a limited time frame and range of roaming) consider 'high' end in the tourist pits and beer gardens, it's hard to argue in broad daylight that it's the same 'product' with just a different price tag. Nothing to do with ego or room decor either. It's easy to compare, it's not like those of us who have a certain preference have never visited the low end like V2, Viva, Biwa, Riviera, etc. Just for grins I've even visited places like Annie's and Darling in the past. Hardly the 'same thing' as Copa Cabana model lounge.
And yeah, when you limit the number of licenses (whether taxi or private vehicle) , you're invariably increasing the 'value' (and hence price. Whether up front or under the table) of available licenses. There's too many vehicles of all types, IMO. Money is the best way to weed out the market, especially when it's becoming increasingly more difficult for the masses to acquire it.I would have NO issue paying the higher prices if I got porn star performance from the lookers at those establishments, no problem at all. In fact those would be my venues of choice. If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. But I have found the great looking gals in those establishments to be real under-performers. Covered blow jobs, plain vanilla sex, boring. A pretty face it not enough to justify the price tag, but a great looking girl that is dripping and oozing sexuality would be.
BKK Dreaming
04-07-12, 21:17
I would have NO issue paying the higher prices .,.,., If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. .Most Thai Girls have no idea about seduction and how to turn a guy on, Maybe they do not have to for 90% of the customers or the Thai BF, Its just open up the legs and go at it,
I look at some of the OK looking webcam girls and they really know how to move their bodies and tease, much more sexy than just a pretty naked girl spreading eagle!
Maybe we need to start a seduction school.
BK
Western787
04-07-12, 23:18
Of course, it's not some hidden treasure trove oasis, that's for sure. Definitely still worth a regular look and dip though, at least for me. Along with Utopia, Plaza Aqua 6th, Long Beach sideliners, Emmanuelle L class girls, Pretty Relax HJ (and sometimes more) 'pretties, ' take the average 'better looking' girl at those places and compare to what most folks (in particular tourists with a limited time frame and range of roaming) consider 'high' end in the tourist pits and beer gardens, it's hard to argue in broad daylight that it's the same 'product' with just a different price tag. Nothing to do with ego or room decor either. It's easy to compare, it's not like those of us who have a certain preference have never visited the low end like V2, Viva, Biwa, Riviera, etc. Just for grins I've even visited places like Annie's and Darling in the past. Hardly the 'same thing' as Copa Cabana model lounge.Well stated analysis and sounds like you really appreciate what's available in Bangkok. The question that interests me is how (ignoring all other costs: housing. Food, transportation etc) lets say for example $50, 000 per year (USA) directed at female "entertainment" in a city like Bangkok for an average middle aged full-time or part-time resident. Would compare to the same amount spent in a city like New York. Its my impression based on 2 brief visits over 3 years and this forum and other info I'm hearing. That its probably not duplicable in NYC even at 5 to 10 times that amount.
Actually the world could have withstood the bad loans easily. It was the repackaging that crashed the economy. There should be only small student loans. It is insane that US Uni students have to go into the workforce heavily in debt. School should be paid for by tax money as should health care. If there is any left over let the military and the Justice Dept fight over it. Would love to see the pres forgive all student loans and force the banks to write them off. Would do the US population good.Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you.
Why not just forgive ALL loans and let the banking system go down the toilet taking the free markets with it?
Dash Riprock
04-08-12, 03:16
I would have NO issue paying the higher prices if I got porn star performance from the lookers at those establishments, no problem at all. In fact those would be my venues of choice. If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. But I have found the great looking gals in those establishments to be real under-performers. Covered blow jobs, plain vanilla sex, boring. A pretty face it not enough to justify the price tag, but a great looking girl that is dripping and oozing sexuality would be.Yeah, one's results may vary. And lookers tend to 'try less' the world over. Performance wise, I find that if you represent a ticket to something better, you'll get the show you're looking for. I think a lot of times guys start to 'price' or 'value' these little price differences in local terms. Sure, if you're earning in Baht, it's hard not to, but for most of us on the board, surely we still have income in dollars, Euros, etc. And a lot of the arguments / debate / discussion (and some of it seems to be rather amusingly 'heated') on this subject really are over just US$50 to $90 price differences. You can't even buy a good beginner tennis racket for that amount of money.
LittleBigMan
04-08-12, 04:15
LBM,
Normally your stuff is readable, but this time I had to stop. Please return to normal.I had some great old pussy the other night and after reading a post about fine dining remember a few years back at a hotel 4/5 star in Bangkok (which I won't mention) who had a great reputation for food. I was in the bathroom just finishing up washing my hands I saw a cook come out of the stall, as he walk pass me he wiped his hands on his pants and then smell his hand. I followed out and as he enter the kitchen backdoor a dog came walking out. The rest of the story I added?
LBM
Franco Cozzo
04-08-12, 04:34
I would have NO issue paying the higher prices if I got porn star performance from the lookers at those establishments, no problem at all. In fact those would be my venues of choice. If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. I agree, and the best service I have had is with the least expensive FL I've taken, that I now have been with a total of 9 times. She is not hot by any sense of the imagination, but is attractive in a cute kind of way. She is happy, friendly, playfull, speaks English pretty well; she allows anal, threesomes, photos / videos etc; and for most of these services she charges less than the barfine at most venues. I do enjoy BFing hot girls from GoGos as well; but generally leave a much more satisfied customer with her.
GentleBoner
04-08-12, 04:40
I agree, and the best service I have had is with the least expensive FL I've taken, that I now have been with a total of 9 times. She is not hot by any sense of the imagination, but is attractive in a cute kind of way. She is happy, friendly, playfull, speaks English pretty well; she allows anal, threesomes, photos / videos etc; and for most of these services she charges less than the barfine at most venues. I do enjoy BFing hot girls from GoGos as well; but generally leave a much more satisfied customer with her.Most of the best experiences I've had have been with freelancers who didn't ask about price and let me pay however much I thought fair.
And I paid them fairly, and saw them again and again because their attitude was so good.
Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you.
Why not just forgive ALL loans and let the banking system go down the toilet taking the free markets with it?Not communist at all. In the US we have socialized the risk and privatized the gains. We basically forgave and bailed out all the banks in the US, but let the population rot. Communism is defined as gov ownership of the means of production. I would and have never advocated that. Certain things work quite well in a "market," consumer goods to mention one. Some things do not, health care and education are two things that do not. Banks have always been self serving unless regulated properly. Canada had no banking issue during the latest crisis because there is proper regulation. In the US our banks are under-regulated and the stock market is over regulated. Let the stock market free wheel and keep the banks tight and solvent. Communist enough for you?
Most Thai Girls have no idea about seduction and how to turn a guy on, Maybe they do not have to for 90% of the customers or the Thai BF, Its just open up the legs and go at it,
I look at some of the OK looking webcam girls and they really know how to move their bodies and tease, much more sexy than just a pretty naked girl spreading eagle!
Maybe we need to start a seduction school.
BKI agree 100. Many of the working girls here know very little about sex, even though they have been with countless men. Their skill set both technically and psychologically is poorly developed. The oilies are the exception technically, but they are still psychologically lacking. When was the last time you had a Thai gal come into the room dressed in lingerie, crawl across the room like a cat, and do a long slow seductive tease, all the while talking dirty? Nope, just not in the psyche of most of the girls here. I find Thai women very accommodating and agreeable when it comes to being a mate. They are SO easy to live with and make great companions, however, they do lack a bit in the sack. I remember making certain not unreasonable requests from a bar girl once and being told,"I am not a dirty girl." Amazing statement when you think about the amount of see*k she has gobbled in her career.
Now, I have had a very different experience with Indonesian girls. Very dirty, fun, and willing, and of course Western women as well. Perhaps it is monotheism that makes gals fun in bed!
You don't understand- a girls price is based on her looks! Get real man. If a pretty girl also put out sexually we wouldn't be able to afford them. LOL.Harold, that is the Asian way of pricing, for sure. You are buying "face" not performance. Unfortunately as there are fewer and fewer Westerners here, this trend will continue to get worse. I find that FLs are willing to put less and less effort into the act. Also there are fewer and fewer FLs that are out to party, well at least outside of the disco crowd. You rarely see a gal in Thermae with a drink. Used to be one big party every night. When the girls were partying the sex was a lot more fun. Guess the Japanses mongers are turned off by girls who are drinking, having fun, and are aggressive sexually. Too bad, they don't know what they are missing. But I sure miss it.
Franco Cozzo
04-08-12, 05:54
Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like youOh no, does that mean I grew up in a communist country (Australia)? I am too young to have benefited from the free University period (it is now interest free loans, that are paid back as a small percentage of Salary when earning over $45K) ; but we still have public health.
I don't want to start a big argument, but inferring that Governments trying to look after their people with some public systems is flat out incorrect. Imagine if everyone in the USA was more valuable in the workforce due to being generally better educated and healthier; I would think you would have a much stronger economy.
Oh no, does that mean I grew up in a communist country (Australia)? I am too young to have benefited from the free University period (it is now interest free loans, that are paid back as a small percentage of Salary when earning over $45K) ; but we still have public health.
I don't want to start a big argument, but inferring that Governments trying to look after their people with some public systems is flat out incorrect. Imagine if everyone in the USA was more valuable in the workforce due to being generally better educated and healthier; I would think you would have a much stronger economy.Exactly. It is a shame that so many Americans can't see this. OZ is not a "left wing" country in any respect. I would say most Aussies I know over here are pretty conservative, but they have health care, education, vacation, and a good pension. Perhaps one reason the US is in the s*t is because instead of taking care of the population we spend on wars and corporate welfare. Too bad there is not a citizenship exchange. Would love to trade my US for Aussie, NZ, or EU!
Enough of the eco and political talk, unless it deals with mongering.
Yeah, one's results may vary. And lookers tend to 'try less' the world over. Performance wise, I find that if you represent a ticket to something better, you'll get the show you're looking for. I think a lot of times guys start to 'price' or 'value' these little price differences in local terms. Sure, if you're earning in Baht, it's hard not to, but for most of us on the board, surely we still have income in dollars, Euros, etc. And a lot of the arguments / debate / discussion (and some of it seems to be rather amusingly 'heated') on this subject really are over just US$50 to $90 price differences. You can't even buy a good beginner tennis racket for that amount of money.Dash, the lookers I have had in the states have tended to be just as kinky and fun as their less attractive sisters, in fact some more so.
Tony Hoeprano
04-08-12, 06:14
In defense of Thai girls, I've yet to smell one with a rotten cooch. Unfortunately, I can't say that about some of the falang girls I've had the unpleasant experience of being with. Usually, it had to do with me having a case of beer goggles and shagging something less than stellar. No more I say. No more and I'll stick to Thai and Asian girls.
In defense of Thai girls, I've yet to smell one with a rotten cooch. Unfortunately, I can't say that about some of the falang girls I've had the unpleasant experience of being with. Usually, it had to do with me having a case of beer goggles and shagging something less than stellar. No more I say. No more and I'll stick to Thai and Asian girls.Tony, I would say that far fewer have bad odors. I have had a few, but that number is very small. When a Thai girl does smell bad, it tends to be really bad, and in many cases I suspect a sign of infection.
Wolvenvacht
04-08-12, 07:33
Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you.
Why not just forgive ALL loans and let the banking system go down the toilet taking the free markets with it?The banks and the free markets are doing a perfect job to take the world financial system down themselves.
Uncontrolled inflation and currency devaluation are tried and true ways of discounting the government's loans all over the world. And I think you can hardly find any country in history that did not default on its loans at one time or another, either openly or through devaluation / inflation. No need to be communist. Communists countries have probably a better track record in that respect.
But we are getting far off topic now.
Wolvenvacht
04-08-12, 07:40
(snip) and as he enter the kitchen backdoor a dog came walking out.And as a dog has a much keener sense of smell and taste than humans, it probably is a sign of quality to have a dog in the kitchen and eating of the food there.
My cat regularly refuses to eat some meats it considers "marginal" long before I see anything wrong with it.
Actually the world could have withstood the bad loans easily. It was the repackaging that crashed the economy. There should be only small student loans. It is insane that US Uni students have to go into the workforce heavily in debt. School should be paid for by tax money as should health care. If there is any left over let the military and the Justice Dept fight over it. Would love to see the pres forgive all student loans and force the banks to write them off. Would do the US population good.Well personally I do not agree. Why should the tax payer have to foot the bill for other people to have a better education and higher wages? The fact is that in the U. S as in the U. K student loans are given at very low or zero interest and the recipients are not required to pay the loans back until they reach a certain wage bracket. The Uni student benifits for the rest of his / her working life so they should pay for this higher standard of living themselves.
Western787
04-08-12, 10:14
Harold, that is the Asian way of pricing, for sure. You are buying "face" not performance. Unfortunately as there are fewer and fewer Westerners here, this trend will continue to get worse. I find that FLs are willing to put less and less effort into the act. Also there are fewer and fewer FLs that are out to party, well at least outside of the disco crowd. You rarely see a gal in Thermae with a drink. Used to be one big party every night. When the girls were partying the sex was a lot more fun. Guess the Japanses mongers are turned off by girls who are drinking, having fun, and are aggressive sexually. Too bad, they don't know what they are missing. But I sure miss it.As Chill Out stated "It's funny how some say there are too many guys coming to Thailand these days (and it's ruining the market) , and others say there aren't enough customers these days (and it's ruining the market)." Now your saying there are less westeners? Ok so less americans, canadians, and south and central americans? As far as non-westerners, in regard to arabs and indians I realize they are not particuarly favored by Thai WG's, yet WG's tend to be somewhat favorable in regards to euros and aussies.
Do you get the impression WG's in general seem to have a perception that Bangkok is being overwhelmed and overrun by arabs, indians, and russians? If so, is that the actual trend?
Dash Riprock
04-08-12, 12:04
Dash, the lookers I have had in the states have tended to be just as kinky and fun as their less attractive sisters, in fact some more so.Of course there will be exceptions. Attractive women tend to simply need to 'try' less. That's why they say 'bald men try harder. ' In most cases, it's because they need to because they know life won't be handed to them on a platter.
Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicised it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.You were right, it was an April Fool's joke.
Yeah, one's results may vary. And lookers tend to 'try less' the world over.cut .Really? (dripping in sarcasm)
Not only does this occur in the p4p world,
Think back to even high school day people. Did the "lookers" in the class ever work to the same level as us "normal / average" folks?
Still remember one back from college days, yes a bit of looker and a bit slutty to boot,
Forever honeying up to who ever could assist her, heck even the teachers were probably on her to do as well.
Well guess what, she did graduate, bottom percentile of class, but do future employers ever really care about grade score?
Still probably trying to blow her way into something better, unless she found a dumb husband.
Sir you said you were going to stop the non sex chat. You really have no clue sir! You prolly think Obama isn't a socialist. THIs is not my line but it is classic-Obama s problem is how to govern as a socialist while not admitting to being one. I really do the the majority of americans have figgured this out (EXCEPT YOU). THe 2010 elections was all about Obama. If he could have been voted out then he would have been.
Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?
Ps I don't think goat is as much a commie as he is a dunce (couldn't use stronger word. LOL).Perhaps we should move the discussion to a thread entitled,"Political Opinions of Mongers who Love Thailand?" And by the way, I really don't appreciate the name calling and flaming. One can have a discussion without it, at least I can, but when someone disagrees with you, that does not make the person a "dunce."
The old Firing Line debates were always funny civil affairs. Bill Buckley was a conservative that I had the utmost respect for and agreed with many of his opinions. Most modern political discourse descends into name calling, and both sides are to blame for that!
And on a sexually related note, was out and about the last couple of nights and the usual push to get money to take home for Songkhran is on. The BG was filled with faces I have not seen in a long time and there were some new cuties about as well. The "Lot" was also stacked and packed and most gals in the BG and Lot were quoting 1k and the ones that quoted 1. 5k would drop to 1k in an instant.
However, Thermae was quite thin on gals near the midnight hour on Friday night. Quite a surprise. Perhaps those gals are a bit better at saving a few baht.
So gentleman, get out there are support your local gals! Peace!
Wolvenvacht
04-08-12, 20:37
Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?Can you give one country where affordable healthcare for everyone prospers in a free market environment?
I have been busy since I got back this week.
Just came back from LOS splitting my time between BKK and Pattaya. I went out with a few regular girls and tried the local bar scenes in BKK. Passed by Q-bar and saw some amazing stunners, Bacarat on Soi cowboy had to me the prettiest working girls but there were quite a few Japanese big spenders who I am told have been fucking up the BG scene with their spending sprees. I can't hate the players, hate the game. What's a BG to do given a choice of making 7-8k baht for little or no work vs getting pounded? My buddy told me that one BG girl says a few Japanese men simply wanted to take her out and paid her thousands of baht just for hanging out, go figure.
I had a couple of bad experiences with Bar girls in BKK but I dispatched them rather quickly. I stopped by DR BJ and did one girl, first time ever at a BJ spot, it was cool, clean and nice. The scene in Thailand is changing, big Japanese spenders and booming economy have given some of the girls options but this is still Thailand. I went by this pickup bar called Spassos, women were dressed to a tee! I was there with a few local girls so I only looked.
More in dept report later, my computer is down. My airline cancelled my flight coming into BKk, so they gave me a decent credit as compensation. I could be back soon
Dear Fellow Mongers,
The Japs and Koreans have invaded BKK just before the Songkran holidays. This weekend, Thermae was out of control with stunners demanding baht 7000 ST which these guys were ready to pay. One Jap retiree had 3 girls with him booked for the next 2 weeks of his vacation at a cost of baht 100, 000 each I was told. If any of us speak their language we need to give them the real facts so that our dicks can get some action also.
Sayonara (Goodbye) and kahmsa hanmida (Thank you). That is all I know in Japanese and Korean. I do not want to hear that from the bar and massage girls I want to have a good time with.
Can you give one country where affordable healthcare for everyone prospers in a free market environment?Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?
Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?Who cares. You get to live out your geriatric years in Pattaya on your prole's pension because birth accident put you in a place that takes care of its bottom-feeders. Just enjoy yourself.
Spending the last day of a four day business trip here in Bangkok. Here's a run down of a few places I visited:
There's a decent looking massage place on Suk between the JW Marriott and Nana. I stopped in one night just looking for a good massage. I picked something like a 900 baht scrub massage package. The line up (all sitting down by the window at the entrance) wasn't anything special, so I picked one of the ones with better demeanor. Half way through the massage, she asked me if I wanted anything extra, and once I said no, she started complaining, and this went non-stop until the end. Initially, I was annoyed, but after a while I just stopped noticing her bickering. I would not go back.
Sazanka on Thong Lor soi 6 remains one of my favorites, and I stop by there to have the Sazanka massage at least once every time I am in Bangkok. This time was no exception, and as always, I was not disappointed. Koi was who I had this time, and I would highly recommend.
One night looking for Mango, I came across this Japanese looking massage parlor in that area (I don't remember the name). I was presented with an album of girls many of whom looked very good. I picked 'guitar', and as we were going to the room, the receptionist said the whole FS package costs 1, 500 Baht. Once in I easily negotiated down to a lower price, although I don't remember how much, probably 1, 200. Guitar was very nice looking and very accommodating. I would go back.
Earlier I had stopped by BKK48. There were a number of very nice looking girls on the menu which showed one hour at 1, 900 Baht. I remembered having gone there a year and a half ago, before it was called BKK48 and the new nice storefront, and it cost a lot less. I passed. Does anyone else have any recent experience at this place? Was I getting the gringo menu this time? I don't know.
I also visited Akane. This was my second time there. My first Akane experience, although not bad, was nothing to remember. This time, I got there late, and had a choice of two girls, neither very attractive. I picked the one who was smiling. She was very accommodating and willing to please in any way. I was glad I picked her. Unfortunately I don't remember her name.
Digits
LittleBigMan
04-09-12, 05:17
Sir you said you were going to stop the non sex chat. You really have no clue sir! You prolly think Obama isn't a socialist. THIs is not my line but it is classic-Obama s problem is how to govern as a socialist while not admitting to being one. I really do the the majority of americans have figgured this out (EXCEPT YOU). THe 2010 elections was all about Obama. If he could have been voted out then he would have been.
Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?
Ps I don't think goat is as much a commie as he is a dunce (couldn't use stronger word. LOL).There is nothing wrong with socialist ideas and nothing wrong with the free market? The reality is that America has many forms of socialism the problem now is that those in the Free market believe it only exist for them. Look at our tax system it is laced from beginning to end with socialistic deductions! The Free market say America has the highest tax rate and say that is Obama fault but he has kept Bush tax rates and if it is so high why didn't G. E. Pay any taxes? Why because of all the socialist tax deductions.
Now as the elections is coming both parties talk about Entitlements like we average people invented and cause the overrun of these programs. The same politicians who are running for President spend time in the system in Congress or Senate since the Reagan years. Played along all these years collecting their own Entitlements taking " one for the team " as Santoran quotes and created many of the problems we have with our social programs today! The original concept of many of these programs were well intended like Social Security, which by the way like many of you put into, just like you put into a 401K plan now because they used all the money and put in a useless I. O. U. To pay for all the wars it is my fault that it is broke! Now they are labeling guys like me a Entitlement generation. If I live beyond the years they projected for Social Security it is my fault! Politician being so goddame smart should have figure that out? I'm not asking for the world I just want what I put in is that too much to ask. It's amazing how these politician say the Government can't run anything when they have been voted in to run the government all these years and have the nerve or Entitlement to get before a camera and say something to that affect!
Starting in the 70's we had a oil problem today after 40 years we have a oil problem. Twenty years every politician knew the health problem and cost was coming and today guess what we have a problem but nothing was done because each and everyday Lobbyist are park outside these politician office making sure nothing is done! Now because they don't like Obamacare, they talk about Constitution, Free Market will take care of the problem while allowing insurance company sell across State lines, Tax credits, Health saving accounts etc. Well how Free has it been since prices continue to rise, you can't sell across State line because companies lobbyist are park right outside making sure it doesn't happen. How is the average guy going to save for a Health Saving account when they don't make enough or don't have a job. What is a tax credit going to do if you can't pay for the high cost of health insurance from the offset while your tax credit comes at the end of the year. And to give you back a tax credit from the governent that is complaining they are broke and isn't that socialism?
It took 2 years to get Obamacare pass and the politician since his election in 2008/2012 continue to complain that we can't afford it and let the free market take care of it? Politician complain about Canada / British / Europe about the bad the health program but if they are so smart and great why can't American politician create and come up with a health program that everyone likes and want to join that addresses, high medical cost, allows help for more young people to want to be doctors, addresses the drugs overcharges and reforms in every area so that instead of complaining or being scared of socialize medicine actually do something about it instead of talking against it and taking money from lobbyist to make sure the status quote exist.
The same morons that claim we can't afford it and that we as Americans feel entitled to these program give millions and billions to country throughout the world who don't like us and want to kill us. Countries year after year get their Entitlements for no oversight but when I want to collect my Social Security it is now a Entitlement? The money they gave to China to reseach how smoking affects the Chinese could take care years of Social Security or Medicare for Americans for years?
The big picture is many Americans don't get it because they have been drawn into the politician game " of divide and conquer " They got us all fighting and calling each other names while they continue their B. S. And lies to keep their own Entitlements! The big losers are us! Instead of complaining and asking what other countries has this or that the question we should ask is why if America is so great and our politician know exactly what is wrong with other countries program why haven't we come up with a comprehensive program that everyone likes? There isn't anything wrong with socialism or free market but neither has taken care of the problem up to now? As long as our politician are allow to blow hot air we are heading down the same road as the problem with oil.
To end, the economy and politics have everything to do with mongering it affects my bottom line as to where to go and how much to pay.
LBM
Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?Hey Daddy!
Somewhere up there in cowboy heaven, John Wayne is looking down and has a big smile!
There is nothing wrong with socialist ideas and nothing wrong with the free market? (snip)
To end, the economy and politics have everything to do with mongering it affects my bottom line as to where to go and how much to pay.Amen.
Maybe they, the powers that be (whomever they be) , can come up with an affordable voucher system for P4P sexual services.
That would make it a lot easier on us old guys. ;)
Franco Cozzo
04-09-12, 06:59
Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.
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