Nairobi

[BobBlack]

Why you not consider the new train Madaraka Express Nairobi. Mombasa instead of flying? Its 800 and just 4 hours. Complication it to get to the Nairobi Station, as its out of town. Although they offer a shuttle from the old central train station.

I will do that at my next trip but with a stopover in Mtito Andrei, the truck stop with a buzzing nightlife.And a huge dose of what you don't need. Stay away from truck stop places.

[Monty5235]

Can you share hotel name?Its there in his post "Down Town Hotel".

[Neddy69]

Could this be fake news. ?

It has appeared on several news-sites today.

I think it would be easier to celebrate Christmas & Easter at the same time than to ban prostitution in Nairobi.

Nairobi County Assembly on Friday passed a motion prohibiting commercial sex in the City.

The motion was moved by the MCA for Woodley Kenyatta Golf Course ward, Mwangi Njihia, who argued that sex trade in the capital has become an open air business without consequences and therefore the city needs nip the vice in the bud.

"I am deeply concerned that this business is today happening rampantly and openly within our communities without repercussions on the offenders as provided for in law," said Njihia.

The motion received overwhelming support from* Members of the Nairobi County Assembly who raised concerns on how palatial homes and restaurants have been turned into brothels.

They urged Governor Mike Sonko to "move with speed and robustly enforce the provisions of the law to deter commercial sex in the county. "

Nominated MCA Mellab Atema seconded the motion and asked the County Assembly to save Nairobi youth from the vice and diseases that come with it..Read the law. Prostitution as per se is LEGAL. But living off the proceeds as touting, running a brothel, sex with minors forcing the into slavery etc is NOT: I. E. Exploitation and the formulations male person might be a gay also. But don't worry. A misdemeanor is a minor offence. I read that code its written in legalese.

Nairobi is the shagging capital of Africa. And all the girls are merely girlfriends you meet in the disco and she likes you so she goes with you and you help her out with "transport money" in the morning.

The concern of the politicians here is to curb the sex trade in illegal run brothels. Heard an Israeli is doing brisk business by renting a posh villa and renting out white prostitutes to Kenyan MPs. They are protected. Same try in France where they declared prostitution illegal, utter BS. Everything moves in the internet nowadays. Just politics.

Just be careful with porn videos and taking nude pics that's considered pornography and can land you in jail if you have a Malaya in cahoots with the law. Also Sex toys might be impounded by customs, which is BS as there is a store in Nairobi where you can buy them.
My two cents.

Neddy.

Enjoying Gambian pussy. And loads of @ bajuni.

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[Member #4563]

Can you share hotel name?Hotel name is Downtown.

[Willyboy]

Why you not consider the new train Madaraka Express Nairobi. Mombasa instead of flying? Its 800 and just 4 hours. Complication it to get to the Nairobi Station, as its out of town. Although they offer a shuttle from the old central train station.

I will do that at my next trip but with a stopover in Mtito Andrei, the truck stop with a buzzing nightlife.http://krc.co.ke/madaraka-express-rates/

[Gesheft]

I will be in Nairobi week of 17th.

As usual I do have options lined up with regular lady friends.

And some new ones.

One of my regulars is interested in a threesome with possible DP.

Anyone interested in exploring this venture further.

Please contact via pm.

G.

[Amadeuss]

And a huge dose of what you don't need. Stay away from truck stop places.Me no spring chicken, Me no need teaching.

Did you ever go--or only comment by hearsay?

[Neddy69]

Me no spring chicken, Me no need teaching.

Did you ever go--or only comment by hearsay?I don't want to discourage you. But I suspect most hookers serving the truck drivers are overweight, diseased and expired.

But by all means, go. And let us know. I stick to young female college students, which I suspect don't serve the chinese and kenyan railway gangs and passing truck drivers.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/02/15/makueni-hiv-infection-rates_c1506233

Neddy.

Who is shagging sweet young nonpros and single mothers in Gambia. Loads of fresh meat. If you know how to play.

[Pokeris]

Fly from mombasa to Jomo Kenyatta airport take taxify.

From airport to metro hotel at koinange street its cost just 850 shillings for a ride. Take a single room for 4000 shillings per night, double was 5000. Agree with receptionist I can bring girls if I need at single room. Take a short taxify ride to simmers for 200 bob. Inside simmers was playing live congonese band and maybe 10 girls inside around 21.30 pm. Saw one nice girl sitting at bar so I come to her and sit near and start chat as I find out she is ruandian girl I bought a drink for 250 bob and we start talk little bit, I offer her to go my hotel for short time she agreed and said 6000 short time I just laughed and show her on my fingers 2000 no more. She don't accept my offer and said 4000 shillings I said for this price I can get all night easy she still refuse go for 2000. Later after some negotation we agree for 3000 short time its sounds to much for me little bit but she was good looking and last time I have ruandian girl 8 month ago at kigali so I give a go. We comeback hotel she was good and bed and makes nice jokes. Later I pay her and let her go after take (taxify taxi) to black diamonds was some nice girls there start conversation with one kamba girl bough her a drink when she finish her drink she ask for one more and ask if I can pay her previuos bill I told her she can pay herself her bills so she just walk away (most of the times black diamonds girls have bad attitude) I finish my drink and comeback my hotel later I have my fly so need rest.

[JeremiahSurd]

I am in Nairobi already a few days stayed in Down Town Hotel for 2700 bob, its next door to Terminal hotel that has closed 5 years ago. Its in koinange st very nice street full of local cheap restaurants.

Just next door to the hotel there is "Kendu-bay" restaurant they have Kuku+rice+salad for 200 bob.

7 years ago I was stayed in Africana hotel on Dubois Road for 4 month. So I was curious to see how the price now so I went there. The area is not nice as the one in downtown but a room is 1000 bob per night. Different type of girls there then the "office girls" around Moi Av, downtown hotel etc. I took a photo when I was there today. See below.

All type of girls waking around CBD somalies, Arabs, Office name it. I normally walk after 6 pm and hunt office girls that stand in the long line waiting for the bus or in restaurants or even when they cross the street. I take whatsapp and move on.

I can provide more info latter as I am in my way tomorrow to Antanarivo Mada, but I will come for more weeks in Nairobi for the sexy office Girls.Can you PM me some office girl contacts. Visiting Nairobi next month for a week. Thanks.

[JeremiahSurd]

Jambo! Am in NBO next month. Any mongers around for a round of joint mongering! Personally I prefer the girls at a setup in the Amboseli area but its very expensive there 8000 KSH for an hour! Any inputs on college / university girls, let me know on PM!

[Naked Gunz]

Personally I prefer the girls at a setup in the Amboseli area but its very expensive there 8000 KSH for an hour!Wow, they want that much now? Nai getting expensive!

[Member #4589]

Hey ISG,

I'll be headed to Nairobi for a week in late March. I'll be staying at an Air BnB probably in the Westlands area. I've hobbied in other countries as well (Nigeria, Thailand, Malaysia, Ghana, USA etc), but this will be my first time in Kenya and I do plan on having quite a bit of fun. I've posted on this forum quite a bit.

So far from the forum I've gathered that:

-The price of ST should be about 2,000-4,000 ksh (about 20-40 USD). It could depend on the area e.g. Westlands would be more than the CBD.

-Kenya, unlike say the US will be mainly an in person thing for pros at least. Online working girls are often not what you'll get in person. Best to work out of clubs and lounges.

-There'll be working girls at most clubs and you'll be better off scouting for a while before approaching the one you want. The girls can be aggressive (just like in Nigeria).

Now my few questions are this:

1. I've heard Kenyan ladies are some of the biggest bottomed ladies in Africa. Probably only South Africanladies can compete with them. Are ladies (Google the quoted names below) with these body types hard to find? If not, what are some of the best clubs that I can find them and what do you think the going rates would be?

Ladies with body (ass mainly, preferably real) types I'm looking for: "Ms. Destiny Hydro" "Cherokee D'Ass" "Mz. Booty" "Moe be. Rayna" "Mz Cleo XXX" "Zmeena Orr" "Beauty Dior".

2. I've hobbied in Nigeria so I know how to navigate the African hobby climate for the most part but is there anything else in Nairobi I should be on the look out for?

3. What the rate for an overnight stay? What's the rate for a threesome?

My plan for the week I'm there is to see the sites during the day. Possibly try for non-pros during the day (especially university girls) then during the night hit the clubs, have fun then try to take some ladies home.

Any advice would be appreciated. I'll be sure to post updates when I return.

[Mombie75]

Hey ISG,

I'll be headed to Nairobi for a week in late March. I'll be staying at an Air BnB probably in the Westlands area. I've hobbied in other countries as well (Nigeria, Thailand, Malaysia, Ghana, USA etc), but this will be my first time in Kenya and I do plan on having quite a bit of fun. I've posted on this forum quite a bit.

So far from the forum I've gathered that:

-The price of ST should be about 2,000-4,000 ksh (about 20-40 USD). It could depend on the area e.g. Westlands would be more than the CBD.

-Kenya, unlike say the US will be mainly an in person thing for pros at least. Online working girls are often not what you'll get in person. Best to work out of clubs and lounges.

-There'll be working girls at most clubs and you'll be better off scouting for a while before approaching the one you want. The girls can be aggressive (just like in Nigeria).

Now my few questions are this:.Use tinder, badoo etc to hook up with non pros. They are money hungry so if they are free they usually meet. How much you pay depends on how much they are chasing money at that time. If they have cash they will go high like 8 to 10 k if short on cash you will get them for 3 or 4 k. Clubs I don't bother with apart from the few in Westlands. In Kenya you just have to approach any girl you like and go for it.

[Vanilla4]

Use tinder, badoo etc to hook up with non pros. They are money hungry so if they are free they usually meet. How much you pay depends on how much they are chasing money at that time. If they have cash they will go high like 8 to 10 k if short on cash you will get them for 3 or 4 k. Clubs I don't bother with apart from the few in Westlands. In Kenya you just have to approach any girl you like and go for it.I never pay 3 k, if at all.

[Member #4589]

I never pay 3 k, if at all.Is that for pro's or non-pros?

So far I've gotten the what's app of a couple ladies that would be interested in meeting up.

I figure it's a numbers game. I have a few to meet before I arrive. Meet a few more throughtout my stay during the day and then get with a few pros during the night.

[Vanilla4]

Is that for pro's or non-pros?

So far I've gotten the what's app of a couple ladies that would be interested in meeting up.

I figure it's a numbers game. I have a few to meet before I arrive. Meet a few more throughtout my stay during the day and then get with a few pros during the night.I never take pros.

[Member #4589]

I never take pros.That's good to know.

Different strokes for different folks. I prefer non-pros but with pros, especially in the main areas, there's a selection that can be had. Especially if you're looking for a certain body type.

[Naked Gunz]

Hey ISG, I'll be headed to Nairobi for a week in late March. I'll be staying at an Air BnB probably in the Westlands area. I've hobbied in other countries as well (Nigeria, Thailand, Malaysia, Ghana, USA etc), but this will be my first time in Kenya and I do plan on having quite a bit of fun. I've posted on this forum quite a bit.If you went to Lagos, Nigeria, then Nairobi is child's play. I think Nigerian women are a bit craftier than Kenyan. As far as ass, am told Uganda is the place, tho a head on a swivel in downtown Nairobi will see many lovely things, but not many ass like this you chic:

Enjoy! https://www.xvideos.com/video28316287/omg_-_big_ass_bouncing_like_basket_ball.

[Member #4589]

If you went to Lagos, Nigeria, then Nairobi is child's play. I think Nigerian women are a bit craftier than Kenyan. As far as ass, am told Uganda is the place, tho a head on a swivel in downtown Nairobi will see many lovely things, but not many ass like this you chic:

Enjoy! https://www.xvideos.com/video28316287/omg_-_big_ass_bouncing_like_basket_ball.EXACTLY. I'm looking for ladies JUST like her. Bigger assess even.

I found Lagos Nigeria quite easy to be honest. Things were very straight forward even if the ladies are craftier. I think because Lagos is a bigger city there is more hustle within the cities and ladies compared to say a Nairobi.

I still think there should be some big asses that can be had in Nairobi. I could be possibly take a 2 day trip to Kampala to see what's up.

I'll be in Jo'Burg as well after Nairobi. I heard there are some really big booty ladies there. Seems like the hobby scene there is a bit more complex. At least in places like Accra, Lagos and I imagine Nairobi, you can go to certain clubs, take your pic and bounce. The areas where you can do that in Jo'Burg seem very very dangerous.

[Naked Gunz]

EXACTLY. I'm looking for ladies JUST like her. Bigger assess even.Did you make it to Kenya yet or are you FOS? Maybe you better get to India. Holy shit what a beautiful natural ass. This chic could make good money in the first world just from her bum, yet she sellin azz in India, and has a good GFE report from a member to boot! Hit this dude up for the contact info.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=276156

[Member #4589]

Did you make it to Kenya yet or are you FOS? Maybe you better get to India. Holy shit what a beautiful natural ass. This chic could make good money in the first world just from her bum, yet she sellin azz in India, and has a good GFE report from a member to boot! Hit this dude up for the contact info.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=276156That's prime booty right there man. That's exactly what I'm looking for when I get to Nairobi. Also what's FOS (Full of Sh*t? Also, how can I find the original post of the picture you put up? When I click the link it goes straight to the picture but I'm unsure how to follow up on that.

Haven't made it out to Kenya yet, about 5 more weeks. I like to do my research well in advance. It seems like Kenya is similar to Western Africa and South East Asia in that you just need to know what areas to find girls and then afterwards you make your moves when you get on ground. Whereas in the West (US, UK, Germany etc) you can find a lot about providers online.

I think at this point I've done all the research and prep that I can. I've gotten myself a nice spot in Westlands. I have a decent lay of the land in terms of venue. Now it's just a waiting game.

I may even add South Africa to my trip. Heard the ladies are well endowed there. The SA forum is a tad quiet though.

[Naked Gunz]

When I click the link it goes straight to the picture but I'm unsure how to follow up on that..The pic is in the photo gallery so you can figure it out amigo.


just need to know what areas to find girls and then afterwards you make your moves when you get on ground. Dude,

There is pussy literally in every square inch (mm) of the country. Put on your game face and be prepped to open your mouth to every chic you like anywhere. The "areas" begin in the airport on arrival, and end at the airport on departure. Cheers!

[PrinceMV2]

That's just a fake / internet pic used as her DP by the afro chick in Delhi. Her actual ass is not like this I can assure.


That's prime booty right there man. That's exactly what I'm looking for when I get to Nairobi. Also what's FOS (Full of Sh*t? Also, how can I find the original post of the picture you put up? When I click the link it goes straight to the picture but I'm unsure how to follow up on that.

Haven't made it out to Kenya yet, about 5 more weeks. I like to do my research well in advance. It seems like Kenya is similar to Western Africa and South East Asia in that you just need to know what areas to find girls and then afterwards you make your moves when you get on ground. Whereas in the West (US, UK, Germany etc) you can find a lot about providers online.

I think at this point I've done all the research and prep that I can. I've gotten myself a nice spot in Westlands. I have a decent lay of the land in terms of venue. Now it's just a waiting game.

I may even add South Africa to my trip. Heard the ladies are well endowed there. The SA forum is a tad quiet though.

[Member #4589]

The pic is in the photo gallery so you can figure it out amigo.

Dude,

There is pussy literally in every square inch (mm) of the country. Put on your game face and be prepped to open your mouth to every chic you like anywhere. The "areas" begin in the airport on arrival, and end at the airport on departure. Cheers!LOL, I hear that about the areas being every and anywhere. I'll be sure to be on game.

As per the pic, I think I'm fine. As someone mentioned above, that pic seems fake. It looked a little to good to be true quite honestly.

[Naked Gunz]

That's just a fake / internet pic used as her DP by the afro chick in Delhi. Her actual ass is not like this I can assure.Its still great to look at though. Women have been fooling us with padded bras, silicone tits, weaves, and makeup, etc, etc. Since the dawn of time. No big deal.

[SceticoBlu]

Train booking Nairobi-Mombasa takes 1 minute with the smartphone by dialing *639#.

The 700 KSH Payment is done with MPESA.

[Naked Gunz]

Simmers is now gone. So maybe the new Madhouse will pick up.

http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/simmers-bar-demolished-overnight-shocking-twist-photos/

[Neddy69]

Simmers is now gone. So maybe the new Madhouse will pick up.

http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/simmers-bar-demolished-overnight-shocking-twist-photos/Just sad and shocking. Of course it's prime real estate. The last authentic place gone now after Florida. These 2 places should have been protected as landmarks. Where to go? I liked the open bar area and Nyama. Last October I spent my last night there. At least there is still Sabina Joy.

[Impala2711]

Just sad and shocking. Of course it's prime real estate. The last authentic place gone now after Florida. These 2 places should have been protected as landmarks. Where to go? I liked the open bar area and Nyama. Last October I spent my last night there. At least there is still Sabina Joy.Mtwapa road reserve demolitions (bars like bahnhof and so), check here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcg2n2pyH8Y.

[Mombie75]

Just sad and shocking. Of course it's prime real estate. The last authentic place gone now after Florida. These 2 places should have been protected as landmarks. Where to go? I liked the open bar area and Nyama. Last October I spent my last night there. At least there is still Sabina Joy.The food was actually good there, great chicken. The women wasted no time introducing themselves either. I have not visited Sabina joy or floridas (the UFO one) is gone, Florida 2000 has gone and now simmers.

[Naked Gunz]

The food was actually good there, great chicken. I have not visited Sabina joy or floridas (the UFO one) is gone, Florida 2000 has gone and now simmers.Grilled chicken and mash. Washed it down with a Tusker. Guys remember the new Madhouse is just around the corner. These women have no choice but to cough up 300 to get in as before. You will also see them filter out to Westland's and other places to find mzungu. Downtown Nairobi used to be a great intro to Kenya though. Old Madhouse and Simmers, and as a newbie you branched out from those places and learned your way around the city. Face it gents, Kenya is trying to clean up its act. As a result rates are going up for quality, which as a discriminating man, won't settle for less. Your correct Neddy, this loss is due to a land grab. Sabina Joy? Never been either. I at least want the illusion I am getting quality pussy, and not be over charged for what a Kenyan will get for 5 dollars. Just put on your charming face and go to good places like Tribeka across from Nations center. I guarantee you will meet somebody. All Kenyan women are not selling pussy. Many are just plain giving it away in the hope that you will get sprung.

[Triple Darknes]

Greetings,

I'm in Nairobi right now and I made every noob mistake that could be made.

1. I skimmed the forum.

2. I came on a lark, well not totally I'm reconning the city as a possible retirement option.

3. Went to Sabina Joy and picked up an hanger on; a chick who wants to keep me to herself. She was useful in finding me a deal on a hotel and transportation and translation (it's hard for locals to understand me and me them) and she was relatively cheap.

4. It took me a few days to get a phone so I couldn't capitalize on tinder and badoo at first.

5. Picked a hotel based on a cab drivers recommendation (the strand) I got a better cheaper deal a few blocks down the street.

6. I came during rainy season harder to pick up college students in the rain.

[Triple Darknes]

First time in Nairobi made every mistake in the book. I have fixed a lot since f noob mistakes but open to suggestions and meet ups.

[Triple Darknes]

Grilled chicken and mash. Washed it down with a Tusker. Guys remember the new Madhouse is just around the corner. These women have no choice but to cough up 300 to get in as before. You will also see them filter out to Westland's and other places to find mzungu. Downtown Nairobi used to be a great intro to Kenya though. Old Madhouse and Simmers, and as a newbie you branched out from those places and learned your way around the city. Face it gents, Kenya is trying to clean heup its act. As a result rates are going up for quality, which as a discriminating man, won't settle for less. Your correct Neddy, this loss is due to a land grab. Sabina Joy? Never been either. I at least want the illusion I am getting quality pussy, and not be over charged for what a Kenyan will get for 5 dollars. Just put on your charming face and go to good places like Tribeka across from Nations center. I guarantee you will meet somebody. All Kenyan women are not selling pussy. Many are just plain giving it away in the hope that you will get sprung.I did hit SJ will check out tribekA tomorrow based on what Ned's said do you think that African Americans could be charged more than our white Brothers?

[Mombie75]

Greetings,

I'm in Nairobi right now and I made every noob mistake that could be made.

1. I skimmed the forum.

2. I came on a lark, well not totally I'm reconning the city as a possible retirement option.

3. Went to Sabina Joy and picked up an hanger on; a chick who wants to keep me to herself. She was useful in finding me a deal on a hotel and transportation and translation (it's hard for locals to understand me and me them) and she was relatively cheap.

4. It took me a few days to get a phone so I couldn't capitalize on tinder and badoo at first.

5. Picked a hotel based on a cab drivers recommendation (the strand) I got a better cheaper deal a few blocks down the street.

6. I came during rainy season harder to pick up college students in the rain.Answer for no 2. Mombasa is a lot cheaper than Nairobi, all of women on the lookout for people like you. Less hassle than Nairobi as well.

[Naked Gunz]

I did hit SJ will check out tribekA tomorrow based on what Ned's said do you think that African Americans could be charged more than our white Brothers?It's hard to pin down the Kenyan mindset. For instance many Kenyans can't afford liquor, and proudly fill the table with empty Tusker bottles as a sign of wealth, but consider me cheap and broke when I buy and drink gin. Just complete ignorance. White or Black you will be thought of as the guy that can afford pussy inflation. Price depends on a lot of factors, and will it take a lot of getting used to the place as a retirement option, you might want to consider the Phils or Thailand, and just use Africa as a brief playground. You won't be thought of as much a hoe monger as a white guy because you blend in a bit more, but that is all.

[Rwenotmen]

https://www.nation.co.ke/counties/nairobi/Simmers-closure-marks-end-of-an-era/1954174-4328724-mk9x0z/index.html

https://businesstoday.co.ke/dp-rutos-hand-simmers-closure/

One thing is for sure-- downtown Nairobi is no longer the place to hang for mongerers. This is truly THE END of the downtown mongering scene.

And f*ck Rut0, and all the other corrupt kenyan politicians & cronies!


A moment of silence.
(snip...)One of so many things that was so good about Simmers is that non-pros would go there to upgrade their level of clients. My best lays in the mongering scene were from Simmers: college girls, girls with real jobs, even NON-catfishing semi-pros (that is, those who upfront admitted to looking for business, no pretending about it. But still giving a girlfriendly-experience (GFE)) -- I met some of the best fresh sweetness there.

I'm so sad.

I don't see these kinds of girls going to the New Florida--it just wouldn't be worth the investment.

I wonder where they -- and we -- will go now.

[Neddy69]

Greetings,

I'm in Nairobi right now and I made every noob mistake that could be made.

1. I skimmed the forum.

2. I came on a lark, well not totally I'm reconning the city as a possible retirement option.

3. Went to Sabina Joy and picked up an hanger on; a chick who wants to keep me to herself. She was useful in finding me a deal on a hotel and transportation and translation (it's hard for locals to understand me and me them) and she was relatively cheap.

4. It took me a few days to get a phone so I couldn't capitalize on tinder and badoo at first.

5. Picked a hotel based on a cab drivers recommendation (the strand) I got a better cheaper deal a few blocks down the street.

6. I came during rainy season harder to pick up college students in the rain.Noob? Hey no. You have guts. Most guys sh. T in their pants. Sabina Joy. Been the only muzungu in there.

Thumbs up.

Neddy.

[Triple Darknes]

Noob? Hey no. You have guts. Most guys sh. T in their pants. Sabina Joy. Been the only muzungu in there.

Thumbs up.

Neddy.Well I wasn't the only mzungu there there was a Chinese guy going up the stairs when I came down like LOL.

Nairobi is far safer than my normal overseas playground of Kingston Jamaica.

[Triple Darknes]

In the US I don't use dating apps at all, but they're much more useful overseas. I have relatives in Jamaica so I know that tagged is used as way to get foreigners by non pros or semi pros. I made yet another rookie mistake by not bringing a camera phone (can't have a camera phone on the job 'nuff said) tinder works but you have to talk more and wait longer. Meeting on the street semi pros and hardcore's is Quicker actually terminal 2 is not a bad place. And the cake hut off Ghandi avenue in Nairobi west is great for cappuccino and nonpro's and there's several moderately priced hotels for LT. Matatus can work too but hard to chat when squeezed on a bus riding on the sidewalk! A was in a matatus that did this. But 50 Kes can't be beat.

[Triple Darknes]

It's hard to pin down the Kenyan mindset. For instance many Kenyans can't afford liquor, and proudly fill the table with empty Tusker bottles as a sign of wealth, but consider me cheap and broke when I buy and drink gin. Just complete ignorance. White or Black you will be thought of as the guy that can afford pussy inflation. Price depends on a lot of factors, and will it take a lot of getting used to the place as a retirement option, you might want to consider the Phils or Thailand, and just use Africa as a brief playground. You won't be thought of as much a hoe monger as a white guy because you blend in a bit more, but that is all.I would think I would stick out more in the Phils or Thailand hasn't the DOD contractors ruined Thailand? I'm a disabled vet so the VA hospital in the Philippines is a plus. If / when I make a move the mongering will slow down. I would to fine with a small harem or even a Tyra Banks. So far I like the loose low key mongering set up of Africa instead of the highly structured clubs of Asia.

[Triple Darknes]

Answer for no 2. Mombasa is a lot cheaper than Nairobi, all of women on the lookout for people like you. Less hassle than Nairobi as well.Thanks for the recommendation during the rainy season and lack of time I decided against exploring next trip in December I'll check it out. I would've thought that it being a tourist town would raise prices. Again in Jamaica you'the pay way more on the north coast than you would in Kingston or an interior town. Guess it's different in Africa.

[Mombie75]

Thanks for the recommendation during the rainy season and lack of time I decided against exploring next trip in December I'll check it out. I would've thought that it being a tourist town would raise prices. Again in Jamaica you'the pay way more on the north coast than you would in Kingston or an interior town. Guess it's different in Africa.Rent is cheaper in Mombasa by some way like for like. Food etc is same, women are cheaper in Mombasa.

[Naked Gunz]

I would think I would stick out more in the Phils or Thailand hasn't the DOD contractors ruined Thailand?.LOL! As a former Iraq and Afghanistan contractor, I highly doubt that prices were driven up by horny guys flying in from the wars. Pattaya, and not Thailand, has been "ruined" by things like thousands of old retirees coming in for young pussy, and Asian ballers making it rain in Go-Go bars. Stick out? Hey, your Black American like me. Your supposed to be in jail. You have to know by now you will stick out anywhere on the planet friend. Obviously will be more obvious as a foreigner in an Asian country. Your clothing, walk and talk will make you an obvious foreigner in Africa too. I said blend in, not be mistaken for a local.


I'm a disabled vet so the VA hospital in the Philippines is a plus. If / when I make a move the mongering will slow down. I would to fine with a small harem or even a Tyra Banks. So far I like the loose low key mongering set up of Africa instead of the highly structured clubs of Asia.Phils has a one time fee for retiree visa, and up to 10 k bucks of your shit duty free, all the Pinay poon you can handle. It was my pick to retire, but I got sprung in Kenya. I don't think the mongering will slow down any time soon anywhere you go except within USA borders pal. Use latex.

[Member #4589]

Getting really excited for my trip. Been reading the forum pretty extensively (although the information gets dated easily as there isn't a large volume of information when compared to other places e. G. Thailand, DR, Brazil etc). It's a shame that I'll be coming during rainy season, either way, I plan on having a blast. If these Kenyan ladies have the big bubbly booties I've heard so much about then this will be a really, really, fun trip.

I'm also glad I'm getting a good Air Bnb instead of using a hotel. I prefer the privacy.

I'll have to see which is better. Nairobi or Jo'Burg.

[Triple Darknes]

I know that guys love tinder but there's downsides to non pros like jealousy and drama. One girl heard a girl in the background and got pissed and we haven't even met yet. That being said the Tinder date was total GFE. But she also questioned me fucking other girls.

[Triple Darknes]

LOL! As a former Iraq and Afghanistan contractor, I highly doubt that prices were driven up by horny guys flying in from the wars. Pattaya, and not Thailand, has been "ruined" by things like thousands of old retirees coming in for young pussy, and Asian ballers making it rain in Go-Go bars. Stick out? Hey, your Black American like me. Your supposed to be in jail. You have to know by now you will stick out anywhere on the planet friend. Obviously will be more obvious as a foreigner in an Asian country. Your clothing, walk and talk will make you an obvious foreigner in Africa too. I said blend in, not be mistaken for a local.

Phils has a one time fee for retiree visa, and up to 10 k bucks of your shit duty free, all the Pinay poon you can handle. It was my pick to retire, but I got sprung in Kenya. I don't think the mongering will slow down any time soon anywhere you go except within USA borders pal. Use latex.Damn I used to envy you Contractor's especially the retired ones. The 10 k duty free sounds great because I'the want to ship stuff that I couldn't source locally. You're right about mannerisms, I remember I was walking in the hood in Marseilles France and I was made as an American by an old Black French woman.

[Mombie75]

Getting really excited for my trip. Been reading the forum pretty extensively (although the information gets dated easily as there isn't a large volume of information when compared to other places e. G. Thailand, DR, Brazil etc). It's a shame that I'll be coming during rainy season, either way, I plan on having a blast. If these Kenyan ladies have the big bubbly booties I've heard so much about then this will be a really, really, fun trip.

I'm also glad I'm getting a good Air Bnb instead of using a hotel. I prefer the privacy.

I'll have to see which is better. Nairobi or Jo'Burg.Don't worry about the rainy season, you could easily see no rain, usually it is showers anyways. I am off to nbi and msa next month, airbnb is def the way to go these days.

[Leblon]

On my last visit to Nairobi, I did as I promised in forum, I visited Down Town hotel to collect information about them.

That was in December. But better late than never.

This can be thought as substitute to Terminal Hotel. So here is finally email of the place, so it can be reached from other countries without expensive phone calls.

Sad that Simmers is gone, that makes downtown hotel less useful. Rest in peace, Simmers.

Hotel Down Town.

35 Moktar Dahha Street.

Off Koinange Street.

Tel +245 020 210485.

Fax +245 020 2240501.

Mobile 0721-417832.

Email downtownhotel2000@yahoo.com.

Tariff.

Single 2700 KSH.

Double 3000 KSH.

Inclusice of all taxes.

No service charge.

[Leblon]

I saw some discussion about retirement, I did not find actual questions asked. But it was something about comparing Nairobi and Mombasa?

My personal opinion is Mombasa, also as a tourist. I would be happy to work and live in Nairobi. But retirement and as a tourist, I don't know what to do in Nairobi in free time except drink in the bars and clubs. In Mombasa you can do all kind of beach and sea related activites. If nothing else, just sit idly in Big Tree coffee and watch the sea (and girls). And it is cheaper and more relaxed in Mombasa region, also with girls.

I would say Kampala in Uganda is also very good but there is no ocean. Dar es Salaam has ocean, also good place. Those four are main mongering cities in East Africa where English is widely spoken. In Rwanda language starts to be problem already.

So, my personal favourite is Mombasa, maybe I will retire there myself some day. Mombasa has it's negative sides like too hot, but no place is perfect.

[Member #4589]

Don't worry about the rainy season, you could easily see no rain, usually it is showers anyways. I am off to nbi and msa next month, airbnb is def the way to go these days.I'm not worried about the rain per se. There will still be action to be had, but it does modify how I find my action.

Example: I was in Lagos, Nigeria sometime back for work. During the dry season, there were a lot of girls that would "hang outside" some of the more popular clubs and outdoor beer gardens. Essentially you'd pick up a lady from outside, have some drinks inside and then head back to your place. However, during the rainy season you'd have to operate strictly out of clubs as the rainy season was heavy and sometimes you'd get flooding on some streets.

There was still action (and plenty) but just in a different manner.

Either way, I think I'll be fine. You guys here have given me a boatload of info. I'll be sure to give a full field review when I hrt down.

[Triple Darknes]

I saw some discussion about retirement, I did not find actual questions asked. But it was something about comparing Nairobi and Mombasa?

My personal opinion is Mombasa, also as a tourist. I would be happy to work and live in Nairobi. But retirement and as a tourist, I don't know what to do in Nairobi in free time except drink in the bars and clubs. In Mombasa you can do all kind of beach and sea related activites. If nothing else, just sit idly in Big Tree coffee and watch the sea (and girls). And it is cheaper and more relaxed in Mombasa region, also with girls.

I would say Kampala in Uganda is also very good but there is no ocean. Dar es Salaam has ocean, also good place. Those four are main mongering cities in East Africa where English is widely spoken. In Rwanda language starts to be problem already.

So, my personal favourite is Mombasa, maybe I will retire there myself some day. Mombasa has it's negative sides like too hot, but no place is perfect.Why not both? I can't comment on Mombasa but Nairobi has a whole western infrastructure. Just left the Westgate mall. I'm checking out the 7 D theatre tomorrow. I'm not even sure what that is but I'the like to find out. There's a lot to do here that doesn't involve mongering. I'm going to check out Kampala next trip too though.

[Triple Darknes]

On my last visit to Nairobi, I did as I promised in forum, I visited Down Town hotel to collect information about them.

That was in December. But better late than never.

This can be thought as substitute to Terminal Hotel. So here is finally email of the place, so it can be reached from other countries without expensive phone calls.

Sad that Simmers is gone, that makes downtown hotel less useful. Rest in peace, Simmers.

Hotel Down Town.

35 Moktar Dahha Street..How was the Wi-Fi signal? How many channels on the TV?

[Naked Gunz]

How was the Wi-Fi signal? How many channels on the TV?If your concerned about internet and TV then I suggest Woodmere Serviced Apt. Very quiet, great TV, net signal, pool, small gym, no walk of shame, and UBER arrives in minutes. The bedsitter (studio) starts around $52. You can walk to YAYA for groceries (and girl watch) and cook your own breakfast or more if your a decent cook. Safe area and pussy on the road all around.

[Triple Darknes]

If your concerned about internet and TV then I suggest Woodmere Serviced Apt. Very quiet, great TV, net signal, pool, small gym, no walk of shame, and UBER arrives in minutes. The bedsitter (studio) starts around $52. You can walk to YAYA for groceries (and girl watch) and cook your own breakfast or more if your a decent cook. Safe area and pussy on the road all around.Thanks for the recommendation I think that Naked guns stayed there too. I'm changing hotels today frustrated with the lack of CNN. It's not the fact that they don't have CNN it's that they keep promising it without providing it. With my phone issue I'm thinking that Kenyan culture my be like Arab culture were they over promise for face saving measures. Glad I book by the day. I'll actually miss the location met a girl on the street and not far from CBD.

[Naked Gunz]

On my last visit to Nairobi, I did as I promised in forum, I visited Down Town hotel to collect information about them. No service charge.Another suggestion is Parkside Hotel https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294207-d632764-Reviews-Parkside_Hotel-Nairobi.html#REVIEWS.

Which I see a lot of people stay despite it being so fucking old. Its right around the corner. No offence but I don't understand why people stay in such lousy run down places because they are in town- especially now that the real good times in town are over (Madhouse, F2 and Simmers are gone) and rely on in town pussy. Particularly Kenya veterans. I just don't get it.

[BobBlack]

Thinking I was doing the right thing by going back to Nairobi when I told myself last time never again, I ended up going back to meet up with an old flame. That's why I had told myself never again, should have listened, but no, I know best. Instead of previous times and the female meeting me at JKI I told her to meet me at the Safari Park on Thika Road, it was already pre-booked and I arrived there around midnight and at reception I was told my wife was already in the room. My wife? Eh WTF is this. Anyway onward to my room with a porter, trying the door which was locked I turned to the porter and gave him 500 shillings to disappear. The door opened and there she was, as radiant as I ever remembered, huge smile arms out to be held and kissed and that feeling of those 44 DD's pushing against me, hands immediately down to hold her ass and pull her in. But as usual unpack a few things and to the shower, where she joined me. What happened then I don't know but my semi was instantly lost after seeing her standing there. She'd had a baby which is now 2 years old and ffs she hadn't bothered to even try to get back her slimline figure, her tit's though still huge were like fallen soldiers other than that she still had the looks going for her when dressed and she did dress well. She lay on the bed afterwards and some slow kissing and talking took place and everything was on offer but to this moment I cannot think why I couldn't get it up for her. I'd come all this way to be totally let down by one of the best fucks I've ever had all because of how she'd gone down the tubes. Realising something was wrong she asked me to tell her but I couldn't bring myself to tell her so I went at her half heartedly by going down on her, rimming her ass with my tongue licking her pussy and sucking in her clit which she obviously loved. Still I couldn't bear the thought of trying to fuck her so I told her I was really tired after the flight and wanted to sleep. Lying there I made up my mind to tell her everything in the morning and when we went for breakfast and it was then I told her how I was upset by how she'd let herself go after childbirth which didn't go down to well. After breakfast back to the room and again she tried it on with stripping in front of me as I lay on the bed. I had taken Kamagra before breakfast hoping it would do the trick and get me aroused enough to fuck her but no, it didn't work. I don't blame the kamagra, I blame my frame of mind. When we first met this was a woman who was 5'7" weighed around 65 kg's had those whopping 44 DD's on an athletic frame and boy could she fuck. Now she'd turned into an 80+kg woman with more ripples on her tummy than you'd see on the sea, the bottom ripple almost fell over her clit. I then decided that it was time to let go once and for all and let her go on her way. She tried the usual "oh but why, is my appearance so bad that you're ashamed to be seen with me" crap. Yeah it was but who am I to say anything about anyone else. I'd realised I'd made a mistake and should've listened to my gut feeling. Of course I gave her taxi money to leave but she tried her best to stay until I lost it and called security from the reception to come and escort her out of the room. If looks could kill I'd have been burnt to a cinder.

I decided after an hour or so to walk down to TRM and see if there was anything interesting going on down there and to my surprise there was. I walked round a few shops looking at prices of stuff and also looking at the talent that was walking around. There wasn't much as it was a Monday so I knew it wouldn't be busy but I had to pass the time with no one to chat with. As I walked past the Samsung shop near the entrance this woman caught my eye so I strolled into the shop to make it look as if I was interested in something but wanting a closer look at this female. Her profile was good figure was good, not carrying a lot of weight so I was standing in such a position as she spoke to a saleslady that she'd bump into me when she turned which she did do and I said "oops sorry about that" and she replied "that's ok it was my fault not looking where I'm going" as she held her now repaired phone in her hand I casually asked her using one of my older lines if she was looking for my number. She said she wouldn't mind at all so I said would you like to join me in Java for a coffee and she agreed. Some small chit chat, a few laughs and jokes later and we were getting along very well. I asked if she'd like to join me at Safari for a drink but she said she had to go home as it was her day off and she must collect things for her mother but she'd call me later. She surprisingly did so and when she arrived at Safari and walked through to the bar area I was totally astounded at the transformation from being very nice to absolutely stunning. Again we sat with a wine and a beer and after a few drinks I said I had to go to the toilet and she said she needed to go as well. So naturally I invited her to use my rooms toilet so off we went to my room and she used the toilet and when she came out I went in, on coming out she was looking out the window with her arms folded so I tried the usual of slipping my arms round her and then kissing her neck and that was the start of what had started out for me as unpleasant day into one of the best turnarounds I've ever had. I was all over her and she didn't resist, her kissing skills left a little to be desired but the body skills she had were incredible. Those were some of the best hours I have spent in Kenya. So having thought I'd blown it early morning to this was a fantastic experience which naturally I held onto. The only downside was her working hours were so unpredictable sometimes she'd only rock up at 10 pm and want to eat and sleep other days she'd come at 5 pm and say she wasn't busy, then it was all out bed, eat, drink then bed again. That carried on for my ten days that I spent there. Safari Inn isn't cheap but I do like my comfort and it was ok. The lesson I learnt was listen to your gut feeling and you won't go far wrong. Plus the fact of asking how much she made in a good week and getting the answer of 20 k made it even more pleasant for a 10 day stay.

[Mombie75]

Has anyone stayed at pride inn in westlands, is it GF? Nothing coming uo on the search bar.

[Triple Darknes]

Although hotels in Nairobi west are cheap and girl friendly Air be&be or serviced apartments are the way to go. Due to a mix up and noob issues I didn't stay at a apartment on Mombasa road. The last place to go is to anyplace in the CBD. There's traffic jams worse than anything in New York.

Due to a local recommendation I hit up brew bistro. The women were smoking. The food was on the level of Applebee's but it was more expensive than Applebee's. Was also hindered by bringing sand to beach (I bought along a tinder date) getting numbers was easy though plenty of semi pros and non pros.

I also can't recommend any massage parlors. I had to beg one for a HJ. Two others I asked straight up about FS and was told that even a HJ wasn't on the menu. At one I did get a haircut and shave, and had an interesting conversation about Kenya and America. Went to the hotel bar and considered getting a threesome from a chick at the bar and the girl I was with decided that one was enough.

[Member #4589]

Although hotels in Nairobi west are cheap and girl friendly Air be&be or serviced apartments are the way to go. Due to a mix up and noob issues I didn't stay at a apartment on Mombasa road. The last place to go is to anyplace in the CBD. There's traffic jams worse than anything in New York.

Due to a local recommendation I hit up brew bistro. The women were smoking. The food was on the level of Applebee's but it was more expensive than Applebee's. Was also hindered by bringing sand to beach (I bought along a tinder date) getting numbers was easy though plenty of semi pros and non pros.

I also can't recommend any massage parlors. I had to beg one for a HJ. Two others I asked straight up about FS and was told that even a HJ wasn't on the menu. At one I did get a haircut and shave, and had an interesting conversation about Kenya and America. Went to the hotel bar and considered getting a threesome from a chick at the bar and the girl I was with decided that one was enough.Which hotel bar did you check out? I've also heard really good things about Brew Bistro. I see there are two of them. One on Ngoni Rd and one in westlands. Which is the one to check out?

[Mombie75]

I lived next to brew bistro on Ngong road for a year but never went in, I have heard good things about it though will def give it a try next month.

[Triple Darknes]

Getting really excited for my trip. Been reading the forum pretty extensively (although the information gets dated easily as there isn't a large volume of information when compared to other places e. G. Thailand, DR, Brazil etc). It's a shame that I'll be coming during rainy season, either way, I plan on having a blast. If these Kenyan ladies have the big bubbly booties I've heard so much about then this will be a really, really, fun trip.

I'm also glad I'm getting a good Air Bnb instead of using a hotel. I prefer the privacy.

I'll have to see which is better. Nairobi or Jo'Burg.If you're a fan of fat asses (like me) you can go crazy. The dimensions on some of these chicks are ridiculous. There's waitress at brew bistro who was the epitome of slim thick she looked like a size 8 with two soccer balls. Sometimes just the girl watching is worth the trip. About ABB I saw a lot of bedrooms in nice houses, I wonder how they'll feel about you bringing an eastlands girl to westlands? I never used abb before so I don't know how that would work unless you rented the whole house.

[Triple Darknes]

Which hotel bar did you check out? I've also heard really good things about Brew Bistro. I see there are two of them. One on Ngoni Rd and one in westlands. Which is the one to check out?For security reasons I save the hotel for the trip wrap up when I'm stateside Tuesday. I went to the one in Westlands.

[Member #4589]

For security reasons I save the hotel for the trip wrap up when I'm stateside Tuesday. I went to the one in Westlands.I understand about the security part. I'll keep a lookout when you return.

Good to know Brew Bistro is right around my ABB.

[Member #4589]

If you're a fan of fat asses (like me) you can go crazy. The dimensions on some of these chicks are ridiculous. There's waitress at brew bistro who was the epitome of slim thick she looked like a size 8 with two soccer balls. Sometimes just the girl watching is worth the trip. About ABB I saw a lot of bedrooms in nice houses, I wonder how they'll feel about you bringing an eastlands girl to westlands? I never used abb before so I don't know how that would work unless you rented the whole house.Good to know these women are indeed endowed in the booty. I picked the right place.

As per ABB, I rented out the entire place. No need to be thrifty in Nairobi. There's a favorable exchange rate. I know some hotels are GF friendly but I just prefer total privacy.

Got my myself a nice 1 bedroom room in one of the high rise towers for a competitive price.

[Naked Gunz]

If you're a fan of fat asses (like me) you can go crazy. The dimensions on some of these chicks are ridiculous. There's waitress at brew bistro who was the epitome of slim thick she looked like a size 8 with two soccer balls. Sometimes just the girl watching is worth the trip. About ABB I saw a lot of bedrooms in nice houses, I wonder how they'll feel about you bringing an eastlands girl to westlands? I never used abb before so I don't know how that would work unless you rented the whole house.Its your place, you can bring in anybody you want. Be prepared to wait a fucking eternity for your Eastland chic to get to you in Westlands. She will take a matatu and have to transfer at least once, and suffer thru traffic along with leaving late in the first place. Her head will be spinning about if she is wasting her time, if she has to fuck, what will you give her, blah-blah. If you want her at 7 tell to meet by 5.

[Naked Gunz]

Has anyone stayed at pride inn in westlands, is it GF? Nothing coming uo on the search bar.I did stay there previously, and that was at least two years ago. I think it has new ownership, but back then (and maybe still is) a Muslim hotel. There was no bar. I still brought in my booze and flooze, but as I always roll low key, they never gave me a problem. Although it can be a bit of a gamble, ABB is the only way to go cause you don't have to deal with the eyes as you roll in with chic number 5 for the week and anybody's hotel rules. Don't play cheap like 35 k, get a decent place for at least 47.

Woodmere is the place to go, but you fucking guys think you need to be living right next to the club for some reason. If budget is not a problem, another great place is Renata on Ralph Bunch Rd. Near town. Very nice, but is a bit noisy, and if your next to the kitchen then just forget any kind of tranquility.

[Terry09]

She'd had a baby which is now 2 years old and ffs she hadn't bothered to even try to get back her slimline figure, her tit's though still huge were like fallen soldiers other than that she still had the looks going for her when dressed and she did dress well. She lay on the bed afterwards and some slow kissing and talking took place and everything was on offer but to this moment I cannot think why I couldn't get it up for her. I'd come all this way to be totally let down by one of the best fucks I've ever had all because of how she'd gone down the tubes. Realising something was wrong she asked me to tell her but I couldn't bring myself to tell her so I went at her half heartedly by going down on her, rimming her ass with my tongue licking her pussy and sucking in her clit which she obviously loved. Still I couldn't bear the thought of trying to fuck her so I told her I was really tired after the flight and wanted to sleep. Lying there I made up my mind to tell her everything in the morning and when we went for breakfast and it was then I told her how I was upset by how she'd let herself go after childbirth which didn't go down to well. After breakfast back to the room and again she tried it on with stripping in front of me as I lay on the bed. I had taken Kamagra before breakfast hoping it would do the trick and get me aroused enough to fuck her but no, it didn't work. I don't blame the kamagra, I blame my frame of mind. When we first met this was a woman who was 5'7" weighed around 65 kg's had those whopping 44 DD's on an athletic frame and boy could she fuck. Now she'd turned into an 80+kg woman with more ripples on her tummy than you'd see on the sea, the bottom ripple almost fell over her clit. I then decided that it was time to let go once and for all and let her go on her way. She tried the usual "oh but why, is my appearance so bad that you're ashamed to be seen with me" crap. Yeah it was but who am I to say anything about anyone else. I'd realised I'd made a mistake and should've listened to my gut feeling. Of course I gave her taxi money to leave but she tried her best to stay until I lost it and called security from the reception to come and escort her out of the room. If looks could kill I'd have been burnt to a cinder.Eish! Reading this I have to say I also feel for this woman, yes you should have burnt to a cinder. However I know what you mean because I have seen a lot of good looking ladies deteriorate badly after giving birth.

[Mombie75]

Its your place, you can bring in anybody you want. Be prepared to wait a fucking eternity for your Eastland chic to get to you in Westlands. She will take a matatu and have to transfer at least once, and suffer thru traffic along with leaving late in the first place. Her head will be spinning about if she is wasting her time, if she has to fuck, what will you give her, blah-blah. If you want her at 7 tell to meet by 5.Haha exactly, 5 pm in Kenya means anything between 4 and 9. In fact what I do now is tell them a place and time to meet and then wait until they ring me and say they are there waiting, then I head off myself. Traffic is biggest down side to Nairobi followed by accommodation being overpriced for what you get, but, at least the women make up for it. 3 weeks and counting for me.

[Vanilla4]

I have seen a lot of good looking ladies deteriorate badly after giving birth.I think this is a form of natural birth rate control.

[Triple Darknes]

Its your place, you can bring in anybody you want. Be prepared to wait a fucking eternity for your Eastland chic to get to you in Westlands. She will take a matatu and have to transfer at least once, and suffer thru traffic along with leaving late in the first place. Her head will be spinning about if she is wasting her time, if she has to fuck, what will you give her, blah-blah. If you want her at 7 tell to meet by 5.LOL One of the Badoo girls I had took Taxify almost everywhere (when she came to me I obviously paid) but all the girls where on extreme CP (African) Time when I went to the movies even the movie started 5 minutes late! I caused myself added drama by calling a tinder or Badoo girl asking her to come to the hotel and after not hearing shit for 2 hours assuming that she flaked and calling another only to have the first girl show. That was one of the big negatives of dating app chicks they would get jealous if they knew I was talking to another girl. The Hardcores and even the ones I met on the street were much more understanding.

Speaking of 'nonpros" I met on the street I ran out of airtime texting back and forth with Badoo girls while waiting on one (then because of assumed flaking two) I told the first one a wrong address the the second I couldn't understand once I got her on the phone then I ran out of airtime so I bought more and had the phone lady translate English to English for the two different girls. The lady was very pretty, so while waiting in the rain I ranted about Kenyan girls to her and she laughed.

Two days later I was walking past her shop and she said " You left without saying goodbye" and we chatted a bit and I left. I went down the street and this other phone lady with a huge ass said something to me then she said "I should teach you Swahili". So said ok and we exchanged numbers. The day she was free to meet was the day I had to leave so I just texted her that I'd be back in December. Then I realized that the first phone lady was probably available too especially since she knew I was seeing two different chicks.

A local cab driver told me that Brew bistro was filled with semi and non pro women (he didn't put it that was he said women with jobs would go to Brew Bistro to meet men and that he met his chick that way) But I was a little surprised that actual "working girls" meaning women with jobs, were available as well especially after a masseuse told me that no extras at all were available. So assumed that if a woman had a job she didn't really hustle (This is my first time in Africa).

Another masseuse reluctantly gave me a hand job and took my number (then flaked) but I also saw that her boyfriend worked in the barber shop next door. So maybe it was proximity to the boyfriends that made them so skittish.

Because I was horny and wanted to give a good report I went to another massage parlor and asked for extras and was told no, but before I left the masseuse said "I'm listening" so that led me to believe extras were available but I didn't feel like negotiating.

[Triple Darknes]

I understand about the security part. I'll keep a lookout when you return.

Good to know Brew Bistro is right around my ABB.It was Hotel Rio.

[Member #4589]

Speaking of 'nonpros" I met on the street I ran out of airtime texting back and forth with Badoo girls while waiting on one (then because of assumed flaking two) I told the available too especially since she knew I was seeing two

A local cab driver told me that Brew bistro was filled with semi and non pro women (he didn't put it that was he said women with jobs would go to Brew Bistro to meet men and that he met his chick that way) But I was a little surprised that actual "working girls" meaning women with jobs, were available as well especially after a masseuse told me that no extras at all were available. So assumed that if a woman had a job she didn't really hustle.Honestly, on the African continent, in my exerience (Nigeria and Ghana visits). Most of the action I had was with semi / non pros, especially the better looking girls. You'd be surprised at the number of girls with decent jobs (albeit with low pay) that would moonlight as your "girlfriend for a night or two".

Clubs and bars were often my best spots in Accra and Lagos. Very easy to spot out the girls available and it was far more discrete to take them back with you.

Nairobi is going to be a blast then.

[Wolfy81]

Hi folks was thinking about a trip to Nairobi, spent the last 5 years travelling to Kamapla but after going through the LT prices. With Kampala it was easy a girl would start with a really high price pretty much told them you don't have and they kept dropping the price, and you could pick up girls on dating sites like Badoo generally give them $20-$40 taxi money in the morning and they also seemed to be happy with that. But I have went through the last 20 pages on this forum and people are quoting anywhere between 2000-20000 k and no ones seems to agree. Can any members that's travelled to both confirm which is the better of the 2 for mongering and prices. From what I have read accomadation and transport seem alot easier in Nairobi generally do you find in Nairobi all airbnb to be guest friendly?

[Triple Darknes]

Honestly, on the African continent, in my exerience (Nigeria and Ghana visits). Most of the action I had was with semi / non pros, especially the better looking girls. You'd be surprised at the number of girls with decent jobs (albeit with low pay) that would moonlight as your "girlfriend for a night or two".

Clubs and bars were often my best spots in Accra and Lagos. Very easy to spot out the girls available and it was far more discrete to take them back with you.

Nairobi is going to be a blast then.Yes, that's another thing that it took me a couple of days to figure out. About 90% of the Clubs and Bars were a combination of Bar / Club / restaurant / Butcher shop / Hotel. If you went to a bar especially at night it would appear normal but in the day usually their would be some girls looking bored in the cut somewhere, that would be the hardcore. But then again semi pros or non-pros might give you the eye. One time I was given "the look" by a girl when I was with a Sabina Joy girl, and since the Sabina Joy girl was obviously a hardcore (who I met as part of a threesome at SJ) I considered inviting this club girl up. But a local was talking to her and I think it's in poor taste to "steal and girl" from a guy. In fact I was told specifically that was poor etiquette to do so.

I also avoided hitting on staff while they were working, That being said a Sabina Joy maid slipped me her number while I was taking girls upstairs. Unfortunately I didn't have enough time to call her on this trip.

[Triple Darknes]

LOL One of the Badoo girls I had took Taxify almost everywhere (when she came to me I obviously paid) but all the girls where on extreme CP (African) Time when I went to the movies even the movie started 5 minutes late! I caused myself added drama by calling a tinder or Badoo girl asking her to come to the hotel and after not hearing shit for 2 hours assuming that she flaked and calling another only to have the first girl show. That was one of the big negatives of dating app chicks they would get jealous if they knew I was talking to another girl. The Hardcores and even the ones I met on the street were much more understanding.

Speaking of 'nonpros" I met on the street I ran out of airtime texting back and forth with Badoo girls while waiting on one (then because of assumed flaking two) I told the first one a wrong address the the second I couldn't understand once I got her on the phone then I ran out of airtime so I bought more and had the phone lady translate English to English for the two different girls. The lady was very pretty, so while waiting in the rain I ranted about Kenyan girls to her and she laughed..Speaking of the masseuse that turned me down for extras, she did mention that she was interested in meeting a Tall Jamaican man (I'm of Jamaican heritage and we started talking about the differences and similarities of Jamaica and Kenya) to marry. Again since by this point it was like I was getting schooled by random Aunties with the ladies telling me to "slow down" and laughing at me that I'd probably "go crazy" (fucking a lot of chicks) I'm thinking that since they saw me bring different girls into the hotel, they weren't "like that" but the masseuse probably was open to being fucked. I don't remember if I told her but I was going to say that if she did meet a Jamaican or any foreign man he'd expect to fuck her first.

[Neddy69]

Hi folks was thinking about a trip to Nairobi, spent the last 5 years travelling to Kamapla but after going through the LT prices. With Kampala it was easy a girl would start with a really high price pretty much told them you don't have and they kept dropping the price, and you could pick up girls on dating sites like Badoo generally give them $20-$40 taxi money in the morning and they also seemed to be happy with that. But I have went through the last 20 pages on this forum and people are quoting anywhere between 2000-20000 k and no ones seems to agree. Can any members that's travelled to both confirm which is the better of the 2 for mongering and prices. From what I have read accommodation and transport seem alot easier in Nairobi generally do you find in Nairobi all airbnb to be guest friendly?Nairobi for me the more expensive place. 2000 to 3000 Ksh a night. Kampala I paid 30.000 to 50.000 ugx. Both are excellent for mongering but GFE the best in Kenya with nonpros. Kampala better for loads of sweet SWs and takeouts from Capital. Had almost never price arguments in Kampala. Kampala cheaper in total.

Neddy.

[Wolfy81]

Thanks Neddy.

Just trying to figure out spending money, in Kampala my stay cost around 150000 so 3000 does not seem to bad for accommodation , some nice Westland apartments for around 2000-3000 a night. What about food drink and especially girls is 3000-5000 a night for good quality semi or non pros or is that being unrealistic.

[Triple Darknes]

What's the opinion of LT GFE from Nairobi vs Dar?

What about Nairobi makes it better for GFE? I must say that a non pro actually bought me sneakers unprompted. Obviously everyone's poor in relation to us but is it education levels? More experience with Mzungus? Greater access to porn? For example I prefer LT mainly because unless she's very hot. I need to be "started up" with head and doggy Til I get hard enough for her to ride me over time some of the girls actually said "hit it from the back" Like how I describe doggy. One girl even asked how I was able to maintain an erection using a condom and since she was a "non pro" I asked "how did you know that?" I forgot what she said but I did say that Unless a chick is hot I can't get it up fucking the same girl for several times using condoms.

Maybe she was an expeirenced non pro LOL.

[Naked Gunz]

What's the opinion of LT GFE from Nairobi vs Dar?If a Kenyan woman loves you she will forgive you for everything except hitting and cheating. She will more than likely forgive another Kenyan of those two also. Never been to Dar.

[Member #4589]

Is 25,000 KSE for an all night GFE affair way too much for a Nairobi lady?

She's definitely top tier in terms of face and body. But her price seems inflated because she's getting money from international suitors. E. g. People from other African countries are flying her out for the weekend. From Lagos to Jo'Burg to Accra. Her instagram page has her in prominent hotels across the African continent.

My trip in Nairobi is rather short and some of my time will be spend with colleagues so not that much time to explore. I probably won't do it but I on my last day if I have some extra cash I may pull the trigger if I don't find anything better.

I may just leave her as my last last option. I don't really like inflating prices for all.

[Bond69X]

Is 25,000 KSE for an all night GFE affair way too much for a Nairobi lady?

She's definitely top tier in terms of face and body. But her price seems inflated because she's getting money from international suitors. E. g. People from other African countries are flying her out for the weekend. From Lagos to Jo'Burg to Accra. Her instagram page has her in prominent hotels across the African continent.

My trip in Nairobi is rather short and some of my time will be spend with colleagues so not that much time to explore. I probably won't do it but I on my last day if I have some extra cash I may pull the trigger if I don't find anything better.

I may just leave her as my last last option. I don't really like inflating prices for all.Is it aliiptisam?

[Member #4589]

Is it aliiptisam?No, it's someone else.

[Amadeuss]

Is 25,000 KSE for an all night GFE affair way too much for a Nairobi lady?

.If you can't answer that question for yourself, you may be living in mom's basement?

240 $ is the average net monthly salary of a professional in Nairobi.

20 $ is what you pay for a regular p4 p night.

--but GFE is truly priceless. You won't get it for 240 $! If, then you get it for free, my boy.

[Bajuni]

Is it aliiptisam?You ever meet her?

[Member #4589]

If you can't answer that question for yourself, you may be living in mom's basement?

240 $ is the average net monthly salary of a professional in Nairobi.

20 $ is what you pay for a regular p4 p night.

--but GFE is truly priceless. You won't get it for 240 $! If, then you get it for free, my boy.Thanks for the answer.

Next time answer the question stop being such a wise ass.

[Bond69X]

You ever meet her?She whas hunting on badoo / tinder with a nickname of Whitney before she becomes a tv show starlet.

She was quoting 100 usd the night at that time.

[BobBlack]

She whas hunting on badoo / tinder with a nickname of Whitney before she becomes a tv show starlet.

She was quoting 100 usd the night at that time.Bond 69, take a look at post 2333 and see if it's the same Whitney.

[Bond69X]

Bond 69, take a look at post 2333 and see if it's the same Whitney.Bob, yup I confirm it is her.

I had a bunch of pics and sexy videos of her that I stupidly lost.

She plays now in Nairobi Diaries TV show.

See her actual profile on her whatsapp.

She's a star now. LOL.

[Member #4717]

Hi there,

Could you please advice about the good escorts adds sites for Nairobi.

I'm expert about massagerepublic, but not finding much girls available there, anybother suggestions.

Thank you.

[Mombie75]

Anyone here stayed at The Clarion hotel, Best western meridian, or Pride inn westlands? Info as to whether they are GF?

Thanks.

[Willyboy]

Hi there,

Could you please advice about the good escorts adds sites for Nairobi.

I'm expert about massagerepublic, but not finding much girls available there, anybother suggestions.

Thank you./www.nairobisweet.com.

www.nairobisweet.com

[AhmedB75]

/www.nairobisweet.com.

www.nairobisweet.comLots of fake pictures there.

[Member #4589]

Lots of fake pictures there.African countries aren't really the places you'll want to solicit online agencies. A lot of the profiles are fake. I think South Africa may be the exception. You'll just have to put boots on the ground and scout in person. Closest thing to an online agency is / are dating sites / social media sites.

I'm speaking from experience in Ghana and Nigeria. I imagine Kenya is similar. Well, I'll soon find out.

[Devil1687]

Anyone here stayed at The Clarion hotel, Best western meridian, or Pride inn westlands? Info as to whether they are GF?

Thanks.Clarion is GF. I stayed there last month, reception will copy the ID. Just book double.

[Pcdilwj]

I'm coming to Kenya in may my first trip going to spend a few days in Nairobi then go to Mombasa any advice board members could share so I can avoid some rookie mistakes I've been to the pi and Thailand before so I have travel overseas before just not in Kenya.

[Mombie75]

I'm coming to Kenya in may my first trip going to spend a few days in Nairobi then go to Mombasa any advice board members could share so I can avoid some rookie mistakes I've been to the pi and Thailand before so I have travel overseas before just not in Kenya.Read back through the pages and you will find answers.

[Triple Darknes]

I'm coming to Kenya in may my first trip going to spend a few days in Nairobi then go to Mombasa any advice board members could share so I can avoid some rookie mistakes I've been to the pi and Thailand before so I have travel overseas before just not in Kenya.I too just returned from my first trip to Kenya.

My main advice is to read the forum.

Secondly you can approach random women that you meet. The non pro route has its downsides the women can be flaky because of all the other mongers who didn't pay. If you're just passing through you might want to maximize you time with professionals.

[MadForPlay]

Any one around know if Raddison Blu Is GF. I normally stay in the Jacaranda hotel and know my around. Kindly Advise.

[Triple Darknes]

Nairobi for me the more expensive place. 2000 to 3000 Ksh a night. Kampala I paid 30.000 to 50.000 ugx. Both are excellent for mongering but GFE the best in Kenya with nonpros. Kampala better for loads of sweet SWs and takeouts from Capital. Had almost never price arguments in Kampala. Kampala cheaper in total.

Neddy.I'm currently Reading the fucking forum and It looks like I might settle in Dar because it's cheap and by the beach and I can travel around other countries. What countries in Africa is best for GFE in your opinion? Also how do you avoid too much GFE? Meaning even on my first trip to Nairobi I had ditch "sticky" girls, went through a significant amount of time on the phone texting and sending pictures. (Just like american girls they're afraid of being catfished) The only thing I can complain about the non-pros that I met was like the BJ's weren't as good as BJ's stateside.

Anyways I'm rambling here but what country has the best GFE?

[Naked Gunz]

I'm currently Reading the fucking forum and It looks like I might settle in Dar because it's cheap and by the beach and I can travel around other countries. What countries in Africa is best for GFE in your opinion? Also how do you avoid too much GFE? Meaning even on my first trip to Nairobi I had ditch "sticky" girls, went through a significant amount of time on the phone texting and sending pictures. (Just like american girls they're afraid of being catfished) The only thing I can complain about the non-pros that I met was like the BJ's weren't as good as BJ's stateside. Anyways I'm rambling here but what country has the best GFE?If you had RTFF then you would have seen I have already answered this question. I will add also that your going to get "sticky" girls in just about all of Africa. Why? Because the upside is completely with the girl. She can possibly snag a foreign man whose income is in the top one-percent of the entire country. Your standard of living is 100 x times higher than hers. You are in the position of buying shit for her she could never have. After one fuck she will consider you in a relationship unless she pro or semi-pro. You will have to do the same shit the locals do to get rid of her-beat her and cheat on her, but that wallet of yours will make her think twice, and if she really in love, she ain't leaving you.

They consider ass fuck and BJ dirty, that's why they suck, pardon the pun. I have had only one Kenya chic out of about at least 50 offer me the choice of both holes. Regarding GFE, its a matter of personal preference. Nobody knows what you like but you. My chic smothers me to the point of inflicting pain. I have to move her off me. The culture difference will affect your the GFE. Be careful on what you ask for. I have an friend in Mombasa that lives alone for years, and seems to have given up on getting involved with any Kenyan as if he learned a hard lesson. He seems happy with that. Have you been to Dar? They are moving away from English as an official language. I have heard its harder to communicate. Anyway, best of luck.

[Neddy69]

I'm currently Reading the fucking forum and It looks like I might settle in Dar because it's cheap and by the beach and I can travel around other countries. What countries in Africa is best for GFE in your opinion? Also how do you avoid too much GFE? Meaning even on my first trip to Nairobi I had ditch "sticky" girls, went through a significant amount of time on the phone texting and sending pictures. (Just like american girls they're afraid of being catfished) The only thing I can complain about the non-pros that I met was like the BJ's weren't as good as BJ's stateside.

Anyways I'm rambling here but what country has the best GFE?Short answer. Kenya. I've not been to TZ. But. Naked is right. Brush up on your Kiswahili. And do not take a Kenyan chic to TZ. They don't like them there. And GF experience means different things to different people. Hard to get rid of. Of course. Even pros refer to you as "husband" if you shag them on a regular basis. On my last trip I had two GF experiences. For me GF means I spend at least one week with a chica. In general I prefer business relationships that means shagging and kick them out in the morning. You have to master the art of lying. I have a catalog of excuses like the chicas.

Neddy.

Planning the epic Ethiopian Shag tour.

[Triple Darknes]

If you had RTFF then you would have seen I have already answered this question. I will add also that your going to get "sticky" girls in just about all of Africa. Why? Because the upside is completely with the girl. She can possibly snag a foreign man whose income is in the top one-percent of the entire country. Your standard of living is 100 x times higher than hers. You are in the position of buying shit for her she could never have. After one fuck she will consider you in a relationship unless she pro or semi-pro. You will have to do the same shit the locals do to get rid of her-beat her and cheat on her, but that wallet of yours will make her think twice, and if she really in love, she ain't leaving you.

They consider ass fuck and BJ dirty, that's why they suck, pardon the pun. I have had only one Kenya chic out of about at least 50 offer me the choice of both holes. Regarding GFE, its a matter of personal preference. Nobody knows what you like but you. My chic smothers me to the point of inflicting pain. I have to move her off me. The culture difference will affect your the GFE. Be careful on what you ask for. I have an friend in Mombasa that lives alone for years, and seems to have given up on getting involved with any Kenyan as if he learned a hard lesson. He seems happy with that. Have you been to Dar? They are moving away from English as an official language. I have heard its harder to communicate. Anyway, best of luck.I haven't read the entire form. LOL But yeah I heard that TZ uses way more Swahili than Kenya and even in Kenya I could barely understand them and they could barely understand me when we spoke English. I haven't been to Dar yet but I have done non mongering research and other than some political violence than I read about in The Economist recently in general it seems cheaper to live in and there doesn't seem to be the crackdown that Kenya is having on the hobby.

I've read more of some experienced mongers posts on several countries than one countries post. For example Ghana seems nice but based on what some mongers said it's more expensive to live in Ghana and the chica prices is higher. Also I grew up around Nigerians so I'm slightly biased against hustling ass Nigerians LOL. Neddy talked about short term Muslim marriages in Gambia but Gambia seems too underdeveloped too me.

Basically I'm trying to hack African travel because I don't have the time or money to travel to all African countries or even most. I'm trying to stack my cash so that when I retire I can explore the continent. I could read African newspapers, expat forums etc but the one question that can only be asked here is what is the attitude and prices of Chicas? For example one would assume than based on the exchange rate and the amount of tourists that go to Jamaica that Jamaica would be an extremely monger friendly country. It's better than the US but It's not monger friendly because it has too many free spending tourists and the girls are too experienced to be truly GFE. You can pay a north coast dime almost 100 bucks which is an insane amount of money in Jamaica but desperate cruise ship tourists jack up the prices and expenses. Obviously you can get decent GFE for a decent to "free" price but Jamaica is small if a girl claims you she'll find out that you're fucking someone else. Even though that's were I'm from I wouldn't really consider retiring there now.

The search continues, back to RTFF.

[Mombie75]

Booked arbnb on the edge of town, £18 a night and it is a great little find on Kirinyaga road. Area looks rough but I am very used to Kenya so it doesn't bother me. 3 minutes walk in to the the centre.

Day 1- Too tired after overnight flight so spent the day relaxing around town and watching the hot botties go by.

Day 2- my badoo has been going mad with local females showing their interest. I arranged a couple of meets but they were so late I gave up on them. Kenyans say they will meet you at 2 pm and that means anything from 3 pm to 6 pm.

Day 3- met a girl from fb, went for coffee then asked her back to my place, she agreed. After 30 minutes or so I made my move and she was up for it. A good hours sessions of pounding away on that great ass was had. 8/10 looks 10/10 body. Afterwards I took her for chicken and chips then let her go. She was over the moon.

Couple of meets lined up for day 4 then I'm off to the coast.

A lot of street kids around nairobi these days, pain in the ass as you can't stroll around without the hassle.

Went to Sabina joy but it is pretty tame these days with the strippers gone etc. Plenty of women in black diamond on Friday night on the lookout for a man. I talked to a 6 ft model, she had the figure and looks but I took it with a pinch of salt, said she wanted 20 k but would come down to 7 k as we chatted and I told her I was not hunting. Next day I walk into a Mr price clothes store and there are huge photos of her modelling the clothes.

[Wolfy81]

Short answer. Kenya. I've not been to TZ. But. Naked is right. Brush up on your Kiswahili. And do not take a kenyan chic to TZ. They don't like them there. And GF experience means different things to different people. Hard to get rid of. Of course. Even pros refer to you as "husband" if you shag them on a regular basis. On my last trip I had two GF experiences. For me GF means I spend at least one week with a chica. In general I prefer business relationsships that means shagging and kick them out in the morning. You have to master the art of lying. I have a catalog of excuses like the chicas.

Neddy.

Planning the epic Ethiopian Shag tour.Neddy I have read alot of your threads throughout the African forums, you have done alot of travelling throughout africa. Nairobi is at the top off my list, just wondering if you consider anywhere else to be better. For quality off girl performance prices. Really like the idea off Madagascar or Cameroon only thing that puts me is I don't speak alot if French. Also considered Zambia or Rwanda but heard they can be quiet expensive. Also considered the Gambia but from what I have read on your posts the girls performance and availability is not on par with other places.

Suppose what I am asking if you had a months holiday coming up what destination would you choose?

[Neddy69]

Neddy I have read alot of your threads throughout the African forums, you have done alot of travelling throughout africa. Nairobi is at the top off my list, just wondering if you consider anywhere else to be better. For quality off girl performance prices. Really like the idea off Madagascar or Cameroon only thing that puts me is I don't speak alot if French. Also considered Zambia or Rwanda but heard they can be quiet expensive. Also considered the Gambia but from what I have read on your posts the girls performance and availability is not on par with other places.

Suppose what I am asking if you had a months holiday coming up what destination would you choose?Mombasa North coast.

[Mombie75]

Neddy I have read alot of your threads throughout the African forums, you have done alot of travelling throughout africa. Nairobi is at the top off my list, just wondering if you consider anywhere else to be better. For quality off girl performance prices. Really like the idea off Madagascar or Cameroon only thing that puts me is I don't speak alot if French. Also considered Zambia or Rwanda but heard they can be quiet expensive. Also considered the Gambia but from what I have read on your posts the girls performance and availability is not on par with other places.

Suppose what I am asking if you had a months holiday coming up what destination would you choose?As below, Mombasa north coast 100%.

[Pcdilwj]

I arrive in Nairobi Thurs night I should be at my hotel in Westlands by 11 pm I'm planning to go you after I get check in its my first trip to Kenya which club should be the first club to go out and look at the eye candy on my first night.

[Neddy69]

I arrive in Nairobi Thurs night I should be at my hotel in Westlands by 11 pm I'm planning to go you after I get check in its my first trip to Kenya which club should be the first club to go out and look at the eye candy on my first night.Try Black Diamond in Westlands. Worked for me on my first ever night in subsaharan Africa.

Enjoy.

Neddy.

Homesick.

[Mombie75]

I arrive in Nairobi Thurs night I should be at my hotel in Westlands by 11 pm I'm planning to go you after I get check in its my first trip to Kenya which club should be the first club to go out and look at the eye candy on my first night.Black diamond always has a good bunch of women in, Thursday there should be a handful but Friday will have more. I will be there Friday myself most likely. Havana and Gypsy are also close by.

[Member #4589]

Try Black Diamond in Westlands. Worked for me on my first ever night in subsaharan Africa.

Enjoy.

Neddy.

Homesick.I second this as well. Went to Black Diamond on my first night in Nairobi. Was able to find someone I liked for the night. It's pretty easy to see who's available and who wasn't. I think I slightly overpaid though (7 k for the entire night, about 5 rounds).

[Terry09]

I second this as well. Went to Black Diamond on my first night in Nairobi. Was able to find someone I liked for the night. It's pretty easy to see who's available and who wasn't. I think I slightly overpaid though (7 k for the entire night, about 5 rounds).A busy night with a big fat ass and slim waist I assume. Do us a favour and snap some pics of these big fat asses you talk of.

[Member #4589]

A busy night with a big fat ass and slim waist I assume. Do us a favour and snap some pics of these big fat asses you talk of.Was a Sunday so not that packed. But here is the lady I saw. Quite tall with a big ass and thick frame (thick thighs etc). I think I pulled the trigger a tad too quickly, there were some other ladies in the area I could have possibly hooked up with and for a better price considering it was Sunday.

Good thing with Nairobi is that there is a some action every day of the week, but with the better action on the weekends (Fri / Sun). I still have time to scope out the area.

[Member #4589]

To anyone coming down to Nairobi, understand that this place isn't like the West where you can call up ladies in advance. Your best bet is to go to some of the clubs mentioned in the forum and set up shop. Get in, grab a beer, survey the landscape and make your move. It's very straight forward.

[WiseHustler]

You will find semi-pros on Sankara rooftop (preferable Fri / Sat night) and at Brew Bistro (pref: Thu / Fri night too) too. Asking price is usually KES10,000 but I'd say bargain and if you like what you see bring it down to 7 k-8 k / night arrangement.


I arrive in Nairobi Thurs night I should be at my hotel in Westlands by 11 pm I'm planning to go you after I get check in its my first trip to Kenya which club should be the first club to go out and look at the eye candy on my first night.

[Naked Gunz]

I think I slightly overpaid though (7 k for the entire night, about 5 rounds).Maybe you overpaid, but you probably broke her back and wrecked her pussy if you delivered 5 solid rounds!

[Naked Gunz]

To anyone coming down to Nairobi, understand that this place isn't like the West where you can call up ladies in advance. Your best bet is to go to some of the clubs mentioned in the forum and set up shop. Get in, grab a beer, survey the landscape and make your move. It's very straight forward.I beg to disagree, as I have had very well-rounded trips to Nai using the clubs, websites, massage, cathouse and strip clubs. Mix it up and you will be busy. A trip to Nai without going to Leidos strip club is a wasted trip. The ass just walks around naked waiting to be fucked.

[Member #4717]

I understand if I'm not wrong that most of hotels in Nairobi are Hookers friendly hotels.

Any good suggestions for Westlands, specially the area around Parklands k1, I stayed in the hotel but I felt that they are watching / asking who is entering to the rooms area (entrance through the reception desk) which affect my privacy feelings.

Also, do you have an Airbnb Apartments suggestions which you try it and it was safe and ok for night life in the same time.

Thank you all for your nice reports.

[Frankfurt]

Never been to Nairobi but doing pre trip research and reading the forum. Given the names of the clubs or pick up joints mentioned in this forum, I dropped a google pin on Hotel Emerald which is in very close proximity of the potential clubs / bars. No idea if it is guest friendly but has good reviews online and is decently priced. Check it out and report back if you end up staying there.

Frankfurt.


I understand if I'm not wrong that most of hotels in Nairobi are Hookers friendly hotels.

Any good suggestions for Westlands, specially the area around Parklands k1, I stayed in the hotel but I felt that they are watching / asking who is entering to the rooms area (entrance through the reception desk) which affect my privacy feelings.

Also, do you have an Airbnb Apartments suggestions which you try it and it was safe and ok for night life in the same time.

Thank you all for your nice reports.

[Terry09]

Was a Sunday so not that packed. But here is the lady I saw. Quite tall with a big ass and thick frame (thick thighs etc). I think I pulled the trigger a tad too quickly, there were some other ladies in the area I could have possibly hooked up with and for a better price considering it was Sunday.

Good thing with Nairobi is that there is a some action every day of the week, but with the better action on the weekends (Fri / Sun). I still have time to scope out the area.Yeah Mozam! That's a big fat ass there.

[Member #4589]

I'm still not sure why Kenya is the crown jewel for the African scene (going by the fact the country has a separate forum). Prices wise, it's not that much different than some African countries that I've been to. I guess for first time to Africa visitors it's a lot easier to get into things than say Nigeria, which also has a robust scene, but is also very hectic for the untrained. I digress.

Went back to Black Diamonds later this week with new information about prices. Got this nice lady for the entire night. About 4 rounds for 5 k (I go to the gym, run and drink a lot of water so that I can actually last all 4 rounds). She wasn't the big booty type that I like but more of the slim figure with full breasts and a round ass. She was pretty good, head was amazing, but after the 2nd round she said she was just way to tapped out so her performance diminished. Overall, pretty decent.

I also went over to Liddos to cover all bases. 300 entrance fee to a rather small strip club. There were about 7-8 dancers at the time I arrived with only about 3 or 4 that looked good. I will say I went on a non-weekend night so I imagine the line up wasn't Tier 1 as it would have been if I went on Fri or Sat. One thing about this strip club was the over prevalence of staff. I think there were about 5-6 staff members (waiters etc) all within the club area. One was even resting on the head of the couch I was sitting in. Most of the girls were on the skinny side and they were all clothed. I pulled one lady aside with a nice bubble butt and slim waist. She told me dances are usually 500 but tonight it was free (kind of a slow night and not the weekend). She also told me they have private rooms upstairs for 4. 5 k where you and one girl can have some private time. I declined on the room, but took her number incase.

Finally, I also checked out Brew Bistro (same night as Liddos). Pretty good rooftop bar with very good music and mixed clientele. Definitely a much better venue than Black Diamonds in terms of aesthetics.

However, being that this is Africa, there will still be working girls in clubs, and they'll be very easy to spot out. I actually saw the lady I hooked up with my first night in Nairobi there at Brew towards the latter part of the night. Saw some other ladies that were Black Diamonds the 2nd time I was there. On average, I would say Brew had slightly better looking ladies than Black Diamond but I imagine the working girls simply rotated between clubs depending on the night of the week. Didn't pull anything out of Brew. Sometimes I just like to enjoy a drink or two and dance to the music.

I've also checked out the rooftop at the Sankara hotel. Only a few ladies when I went. That place was quite pricey for Nairobi standards as far as drinks are concerned.

I have a few more days left in my trip but for the most part I think I've gotten the gist of Nairobi. The scene is very similar to time in Lagos and Accra, in that working out of clubs and strip clubs seems to be the best bet. I do know you can use social media apps and hook up with non-pros from day to day interactions, but for the most part it seems like clubs and lounges is a quicker bet. I have not tried to use any online agencies or websites as I'm not sure how reliable those sites are. You think you're hooking up with a slim petite college girl but then get a larger middle aged woman. I'll stick with the on ground approach for S. S. Africa (SA is a different case).

The one thing I haven't scene yet in the Nairobi scene is SW action. Not to say I'm looking for it, but in my time in Accra and Lagos, there would always be a few streets that had a lot of street walkers, usually near prominent clubs. I think K-Street might be that area but since I'm not in that area I may not get to see it.

All in all, Nairobi is pretty solid. For foreigners and first timers it's probably less hectic than some other S. S. African countries. Ladies of all different varieties too.

Next time I'll have to check out Kampala, Uganda. I've heard the scene there is still quite young and the ladies are more of my taste (big booties).

[Naked Gunz]

google pin on Hotel Emerald which is in very close proximity of the potential clubs / bars. No idea if it is guest friendly but has good reviews online and is decently priced. Check it out and report back if you end up staying there.I stayed there a few years back. Its GF, but I always book a double, so the hotel has no reason to give me a hard time. Just show her ID at the desk. That hotel has a big steel gate right at the elevator to the hotel lobby. When you come back late at night, the guard may be asleep, so you may be waiting a few minutes for them to wake up and open that thing so you can get to to your room. I have grabbed FL walking around that area at night willing to go to your room.

[Frankfurt]

Thanks for the information Naked Gunz- sounds promising!


I stayed there a few years back. Its GF, but I always book a double, so the hotel has no reason to give me a hard time. Just show her ID at the desk. That hotel has a big steel gate right at the elevator to the hotel lobby. When you come back late at night, the guard may be asleep, so you may be waiting a few minutes for them to wake up and open that thing so you can get to to your room. I have grabbed FL walking around that area at night willing to go to your room.

[Mombie75]

I spent 4 nights and then 3 nights in Nairobi either side of a trip to Mombasa. I stayed in an airbnb on Kirinayaga road as mentioned a few posts back.

I tend to use badoo for my meets as I am not much into going to clubs, this worked a treat meeting women, in fact you get too many hits to keep up with them.

I did go to black diamond last night, you have to get there around midnight, any earlier and it is quiet. I took a luo with a chunky booty, told her I would give her 3 k for a couple of hours which she agreed without hesitation. She was a a 7 looks wise, BJ was not great but she was a great fuck and well into it. As she was leaving I said if I told you 2 k would you of come and she said no, 3 k is the least she does which is pretty fair tbh. In town today I spotted a nice firm round ass luo with 2 friends, I took her number and am awaiting her to rock up to my apartment now.

Use badoo and just approach anyone you like it has always and is the way to go in Nairobi.

[Leblon]

Neddy I have read alot of your threads throughout the African forums, you have done alot of travelling throughout africa. Nairobi is at the top off my list, just wondering if you consider anywhere else to be better. For quality off girl performance prices. Really like the idea off Madagascar or Cameroon only thing that puts me is I don't speak alot if French. Also considered Zambia or Rwanda but heard they can be quiet expensive. Also considered the Gambia but from what I have read on your posts the girls performance and availability is not on par with other places.

Suppose what I am asking if you had a months holiday coming up what destination would you choose?I also vote Mombasa North Coast. One month is quite long. Visit South Coast / Diani beach at least in one weekend.

Kampala would be my second favourite, but there is no coast and ocean. English is speaken often better than in Kenya.

Dar es Salaam third, also English speaking place. People are often saying to go to Zanzibar instead but for lonely mongerer Zansibar is boring place.

If you have lot of money, you can try to find cheap flights to visit shortly Kampala or Dar. But South Coast / Diani at least, but only on weekends, during week there may be too quiet.

[Leblon]

I'm still not sure why Kenya is the crown jewel for the African scene (going by the fact the country has a separate forum). Prices wise, it's not that much different than some African countries that I've been to. I guess for first time to Africa visitors it's a lot easier to get into things than say Nigeria, which also has a robust scene, but is also very hectic for the untrained. I digress.


Next time I'll have to check out Kampala, Uganda. I've heard the scene there is still quite young and the ladies are more of my taste (big booties).Compare the volume in Nigeria forum to the Kenya forum, that I guess is reason for the separate forum for Kenya. Lot of messages here. Even neigbouring country info is sometimes here.

You have heard right, Kampala is a good place to go.

[Leblon]

On my last visit to Nairobi, I did as I promised in forum, I visited Down Town hotel to collect information about them.

That was in December. But better late than never.

This can be thought as substitute to Terminal Hotel. So here is finally email of the place, so it can be reached from other countries without expensive phone calls.

Sad that Simmers is gone, that makes downtown hotel less useful. Rest in peace, Simmers.

Hotel Down Town.

35 Moktar Dahha Street.

Off Koinange Street.

Tel +245 020 210485.

Fax +245 020 2240501.

Mobile 0721-417832.

Email downtownhotel2000@yahoo.com.

Tariff.

Single 2700 KSH.

Double 3000 KSH.

Inclusice of all taxes.

No service charge.There were some comments about this hotel. Like why go to so crappy hotel. Reason is prize, it is cheapest possible. At least Terminal was. I wish there would be something like Terminal or Down Town in West Lands, does somebody know?

For somebody asking if CNN works, answer is that probably tv will not work at all. I haven't spend night in this hotel myself yet, but if it like Terminal, there is just bed and shower / toilet and broken tv. And that is enough to spend a night with girl. Since Simmer is gone, location is not good anymore. So dirt cheap hotel needed in Westland for people who don't need any luxury, and visit Nairobi only for a one night usually, while travelling to Mombasa.

[Member #4563]

Anyways I'm rambling here but what country has the best GFE?Kenya is the best and the worst depend on the definition. If you like fake GF that know how to pretend then go to mombasa beach, They will accept 1000 per day and act perfect. Most of kenyan are a pro level trolls, expert in the art of lies etc. Surprisingly man are very ok as opposed to girls. Kenyan girls are fucked by their DNA structure in a way that even God can't fix.

If you want Real GF no act or trolls then I would say go to uganda or tanzanya but out of cities!! And out of any social network or any app. Just go to small town as far as you can.

The worst thing you can do is to read the forum, nothing here will help you just go and explore. I was visiting Kenya since the year 2000 and lived there 4 years full time. I left a few month ago. I had a great time all those years but this is no place for serious relationship.

[Amadeuss]

If you want Real GF no act or trolls then I would say go to uganda or tanzanya but out of cities!! And out of any social network or any app. Just go to small town as far as you can.

.I would say it also applies to Kenya: once out of Nairobi the GF-scene changes dramatically. Kisumsu, Eldoret, Nakuru -- all easy to reach by bus, decent hotels and interesitng sights for a few days BUT a totally different scene with girls curious to catch up with any whitie.

Go explore.

[Naked Gunz]

Most of kenyan are a pro level trolls, expert in the art of lies etc. Surprisingly man are very ok as opposed to girls. Kenyan girls are fucked by their DNA structure in a way that even God can't fix. I had a great time all those years but this is no place for serious relationship.I have to agree. I am in a "serious relationship", and I can't say its one of my better decisions. Over the last year, nothing but lies and stupidity of the highest order. The women will lie to your face. One way to observe their behavior is to look at how your being treated by their service at hotel and restaurant. Its horrible! Kenyan men are way cool for the most part, until they start asking for money, which they are not too proud to ask for. I have expected too much, and have to accept the fact that the undeveloped world won't catch up for decades, if ever. Thank God, am not in too deep, and am slowly working to extricate myself from the situation, and come out of retirement, and resume contributing.

[Member #4717]

Could you please suggest GF hotels in Westlands, preferred close to Ojijo road.

Thank you.

[Mombie75]

I have to agree. I am in a "serious relationship", and I can't say its one of my better decisions. Over the last year, nothing but lies and stupidity of the highest order. The women will lie to your face. One way to observe their behavior is to look at how your being treated by their service at hotel and restaurant. Its horrible! Kenyan men are way cool for the most part, until they start asking for money, which they are not too proud to ask for. I have expected too much, and have to accept the fact that the undeveloped world won't catch up for decades, if ever. Thank God, am not in too deep, and am slowly working to extricate myself from the situation, and come out of retirement, and resume contributing.I have been going to Kenya since around 2003, had 1 relationship which lasted 4 years, she was a lawyer so had her own money and never asked for a dime from me, in fact she often kept me, that was / is a very rare find in Kenya. Other than her I never see the same girl more than a handful of times, it is not worth the hassle as the stories will soon flow from them. Women are everywhere in Kenya so it is easy to just move on to the next one for a few meets.

[Pcdilwj]

I'm staying at hotel Emerald I'm Westland was able to get a good rate since its raining season book a dbl room with free breakfast for 2 included for under 75 dollars I think it s usually like 125 its just raining a lot in Nairobi now.

[Naked Gunz]

I'm staying at hotel Emerald I'm Westland was able to get a good rate since its raining season book a dbl room with free breakfast for 2 included for under 75 dollars I think it s usually like 125 its just raining a lot in Nairobi now.Hehe! It just goes to show how what could be the worlds richest continent is absolutely the fucking stupidest! Premium prices for shit food and decades old hotels. When I take in Kenya's infrastructure I want to puke. Play land Pattaya has like new rooms for 30 freaking dollars. All night party, delicious healthy food and ST just outside your door for a song. Its just amazing how Africa is its own worst enemy.

[Mombie75]

Hehe! It just goes to show how what could be the worlds richest continent is absolutely the fucking stupidest! Premium prices for shit food and decades old hotels. When I take in Kenya's infrastructure I want to puke. Play land Pattaya has like new rooms for 30 freaking dollars. All night party, delicious healthy food and ST just outside your door for a song. Its just amazing how Africa is its own worst enemy.Spot on, the greed of Africans knows no bounds. Hundreds of hotel rooms stand empty in Nairobi and Mombasa as they charge too much for way way too little. The mentality of business is down so prices must go up is endemic.

[Naked Gunz]

Proportionally, my sack looks like pumpkins under noodles, hehe! That does not mean I have enough testosterone flowing thru them to stay at some of these cheap places in town. You guys are constantly whining about how you want cheap places to fuck. Well, bring your laptops, wallets and watches and venture East of River Rd. , if you dare, (evil laugh), hahahaha!

[Triple Darknes]

Which hotel bar did you check out? I've also heard really good things about Brew Bistro. I see there are two of them. One on Ngoni Rd and one in westlands. Which is the one to check out?I went to the one in Westlands.

[Triple Darknes]

Kenya is the best and the worst depend on the definition. If you like fake GF that know how to pretend then go to mombasa beach, They will accept 1000 per day and act perfect. Most of kenyan are a pro level trolls, expert in the art of lies etc. Surprisingly man are very ok as opposed to girls. Kenyan girls are fucked by their DNA structure in a way that even God can't fix.

If you want Real GF no act or trolls then I would say go to uganda or tanzanya but out of cities!! And out of any social network or any app. Just go to small town as far as you can.

The worst thing you can do is to read the forum, nothing here will help you just go and explore. I was visiting Kenya since the year 2000 and lived there 4 years full time. I left a few month ago. I had a great time all those years but this is no place for serious relationship.Thanks for the advice.

[Kib123]

I have to agree. I am in a "serious relationship", and I can't say its one of my better decisions. Over the last year, nothing but lies and stupidity of the highest order. The women will lie to your face. One way to observe their behavior is to look at how your being treated by their service at hotel and restaurant. Its horrible! Kenyan men are way cool for the most part, until they start asking for money, which they are not too proud to ask for. I have expected too much, and have to accept the fact that the undeveloped world won't catch up for decades, if ever. Thank God, am not in too deep, and am slowly working to extricate myself from the situation, and come out of retirement, and resume contributing.Tried to date a hooker and complaining because it went south? Not sure what this has got to do with the third world. Surprising based on your glowing reviews of the same Kenyan women over the years.

[Naked Gunz]

Tried to date a hooker and complaining because it went south? Not sure what this has got to do with the third world. Surprising based on your glowing reviews of the same Kenyan women over the years.We all here have "dated' hookers, so why you calling me out? The purpose of the site is to share experience so we all don't have to suffer. This one ain't a hooker pal.

[MadForPlay]

Hi,

I have been traveling to Nairobi for a few years now and normally stay in the Westlands area. Nice bars and plenty of girls. Now I will be staying for the first time in the Radison. Any one know of good places around where one can go?. Do any one know if the Radison is GF?

[BobBlack]

Just a bit worried about Kenya just now. Seems like the girls / women will all be dying for some dick as there aren't many reports coming in from that part of the world. Maybe that's due to the recent remarks made about pricing of not only accommodation but also flight prices. I do agree that most of the places in Kenya are overpriced for what you get unless of course you go 5 star. Airlines seem to have it off to a tee with their pricing in seasons which has caused me to change my whole itinerary from August to October and the cost is a huge saving for altering by two months. Knowing that August are school holidays but why must you pay over the top prices for places that only have a possible 50% occupation. Maybe it's because tourists realise the fact and that locals just can't afford to pay the inflated prices these establishments offer for mediocre food and service. I have started looking at Airbnb for Mombasa and have seen some pretty nice places which of course means self catering and is my preference yet nobody has recommended any of these places on here. Has anyone stayed in any of these advertised places. ? Has anyone seen any decent ones in the Bamburi / Nyali area that they would say are great places to stay, close to shops and malls, if so please report and let others take a look.

Gunz, good to hear you're working on coming back to your old hunting ground.

[Triple Darknes]

We all here have "dated' hookers, so why you calling me out? The purpose of the site is to share experience so we all don't have to suffer. This one ain't a hooker pal.I think the issue is that you've a Veteran (military) and a Veteran monger. I had a couple sticky girls because unlike stateside escorts I wasn't prepared for a chick acting like a GF while being a hooker or in this case dating foreigners on the understanding that they will pay you for your time. I overpaid because the chick didn't ask for money except towards the end she let slip that she needed money for a business deal she was doing. I knew it was horseshit even if she was going to try to corner the used clothes market but I thought "Well she did stay with me and I fucked the shit out of her; If I add up all the lays it's not that much" and gave her the money.

I actually like her but I must ditch her because I can't let her choose me and it's much better to pay as you go then be stuck with a bill later. Most Western chicks wouldn't trust a mongers kindness like that; lesson learned. I say all that to say I guess it's a surprise that you'd be caught up. One thing about me is that I generally am considering living there and I still kinda think of these chicks as "my sista" so I couldn't play the cold "It's a blessing for her to fuck a white man" that some of these mongers have here. I don't know if you want to go into it but what do you think went wrong? I plan on going this summer and I have to keep in mind that a lot of people go to Kenya and I ain't the only mazungu that piped her down and won't be the last.

[Mombie75]

Just a bit worried about Kenya just now. Seems like the girls / women will all be dying for some dick as there aren't many reports coming in from that part of the world. Maybe that's due to the recent remarks made about pricing of not only accommodation but also flight prices. I do agree that most of the places in Kenya are overpriced for what you get unless of course you go 5 star. Airlines seem to have it off to a tee with their pricing in seasons which has caused me to change my whole itinerary from August to October and the cost is a huge saving for altering by two months. Knowing that August are school holidays but why must you pay over the top prices for places that only have a possible 50% occupation. Maybe it's because tourists realise the fact and that locals just can't afford to pay the inflated prices these establishments offer for mediocre food and service. I have started looking at Airbnb for Mombasa and have seen some pretty nice places which of course means self catering and is my preference yet nobody has recommended any of these places on here. Has anyone stayed in any of these advertised places. ? Has anyone seen any decent ones in the Bamburi / Nyali area that they would say are great places to stay, close to shops and malls, if so please report and let others take a
Gunz, good to hear you're working on coming back to your old hunting ground.Nyali has 2 apartments on airbnb listings I know well as I long termed in the same complex a few years back, they were called justland apartment back then, I don't know if the name is still the same. They are small but tidy and good value and pretty secure.

[MaximusDan]

Would anyone happen to know if the Hilton or Intercontinental are Girl Friendly? Thanks.

[Naked Gunz]

Gunz, good to hear you're working on coming back to your old hunting ground.Thanks BB. I'm in the states now waiting for a job to finance the hobby again. Will give Kenya a bit of space for awhile. I'm very, very close to Tijuana tho, so I can do a road trip anytime.


I think the issue is that you've a Veteran (military) and a Veteran monger. I say all that to say I guess it's a surprise that you'd be caught up. now if you want to go into it but what do you think went wrong? I may be a vet (40 years, 50 countries in between marriages) but I still have a heart. Hey, I just got caught up and it didn't work out. Happens everyday. That guy was out of line to call the girl a hooker. Seems the people lets members walk all over the Gunz. The woman is beautiful and smart, but not stupid, so she fucked up a good thing and will regret it for life. I have come to the conclusion I can't live in Kenya, especially after living in Nakuru. Philippines retirement deal for vets is way too good if its still offered.

[Neddy69]

I think the issue is that you've a Veteran (military) and a Veteran monger. I had a couple sticky girls because unlike stateside escorts I wasn't prepared for a chick acting like a GF while being a hooker or in this case dating foreigners on the understanding that they will pay you for your time. I overpaid because the chick didn't ask for money except towards the end she let slip that she needed money for a business deal she was doing. I knew it was horseshit even if she was going to try to corner the used clothes market but I thought "Well she did stay with me and I fucked the shit out of her; If I add up all the lays it's not that much" and gave her the money.

I actually like her but I must ditch her because I can't let her choose me and it's much better to pay as you go then be stuck with a bill later. Most Western chicks wouldn't trust a mongers kindness like that; lesson learned. I say all that to say I guess it's a surprise that you'd be caught up. One thing about me is that I generally am considering living there and I still kinda think of these chicks as "my sista" so I couldn't play the cold "It's a blessing for her to fuck a white man" that some of these mongers have here. I don't know if you want to go into it but what do you think went wrong? I plan on going this summer and I have to keep in mind that a lot of people go to Kenya and I ain't the only mazungu that piped her down and won't be the last.Exactly. Don't go into relationsship with kenyan chics. Been there done that. Stick to pay as you go. Nothing to do with hooker or non hooker. Kenyan chicas are the greatest opportunists and can and will fleece you out of your last penny. If you let them. Either by sweet talk or outright robbery. Some will not shy away from outright contract kills. If there is assets. A british consular Officer summed it up to me that way. The safest way to live is. Keep a low profile. Most chicas will cheat as the kenyan guys do. Pay or no pay. Its in the genes. But I still Love Kenya and the kenyan chics. Just don't get involved. Their Interpretation of love is cash. As long as cash flows they love you. And that can apply to more than one person. Lying stealing cheating. I have a ruandan GF I send kidogo pesa to her. She is grateful and humble and studies hard. It seems to me that Ruanda and Uganda are better. But who can tell. At Naked. Don't run away from Kenya. I had some down days in Kenya. But. I miss it. And to fall in love is human. In my opinion a relationship in Kenya is down to constant cost control. And cunning. Dont expect faithfulness in return. But hey. Its quite normal to have a shamba girl or 2 on the side. In Uganda they call it Side Dish.

Neddy.

Right now in Disneyland.

[Member #4563]

In my opinion a relatiinsship in Kenya is down to constant cost control. All those years I never felt any sort of happiness with any Kenyan girl just some sort of satisfaction similar to finish a good training in the gym.

I fucked girls with a supermodel hardware assets but again a technical feelings. Rarely come when fuck even the most gorgeous but nearly 100% fun when I do the less impressive Mada girls. Why? I don't know.

[BobBlack]

Thanks BB. I'm in the states now waiting for a job to finance the hobby again. Will give Kenya a bit of space for awhile. I'm very, very close to Tijuana tho, so I can do a road trip anytime.

I may be a vet (40 years, 50 countries in between marriages) but I still have a heart. Hey, I just got caught up and it didn't work out. Happens everyday. That guy was out of line to call the girl a hooker. Seems the people lets members walk all over the Gunz. The woman is beautiful and smart, but not stupid, so she fucked up a good thing and will regret it for life. I have come to the conclusion I can't live in Kenya, especially after living in Nakuru. Philippines retirement deal for vets is way too good if its still offered.Will let you know if there are many changes. It's over a year now since I was last there but planning on going back in October to Msa. I can't get enough of that place and as I said previously I'd love to be able to retire there. I totally understand about the girl and I've been there too, but the comment wasn't necessary at all. Hope everything works out for you and have a blast man.

[Triple Darknes]

Thanks BB. I'm in the states now waiting for a job to finance the hobby again. Will give Kenya a bit of space for awhile. I'm very, very close to Tijuana tho, so I can do a road trip anytime.

I may be a vet (40 years, 50 countries in between marriages) but I still have a heart. Hey, I just got caught up and it didn't work out. Happens everyday. That guy was out of line to call the girl a hooker. Seems the people lets members walk all over the Gunz. The woman is beautiful and smart, but not stupid, so she fucked up a good thing and will regret it for life. I have come to the conclusion I can't live in Kenya, especially after living in Nakuru. Philippines retirement deal for vets is way too good if its still offered.Happens to the best of us. I'm still getting my feet wet in the international game. The ill thing about the international game is that International chicks are quick to throw out the "I Love you" thing. Same thing in Jamaica with non pro women. Stateside it's not hard to get into a situationship with a chick who you link up with from time to time with no labels. It happened a lot in the Military.

I owe it to myself it hit the Philippines to check it out. But I've dealt with Phillipinas stateside and I'm meh to them. Again it's something that I have to research but I think that all the Philippine returnees and the American veterans kinda inflates the market the same way Jamaica is too expensive for what you get. But it's like that for all the Caribbean Islands to me. I can't understand paying 60 bucks in the DR personally.

[Triple Darknes]

Kenya is the best and the worst depend on the definition. If you like fake GF that know how to pretend then go to mombasa beach, They will accept 1000 per day and act perfect. Most of kenyan are a pro level trolls, expert in the art of lies etc. Surprisingly man are very ok as opposed to girls. Kenyan girls are fucked by their DNA structure in a way that even God can't fix.

If you want Real GF no act or trolls then I would say go to uganda or tanzanya but out of cities!! And out of any social network or any app. Just go to small town as far as you can.

The worst thing you can do is to read the forum, nothing here will help you just go and explore. I was visiting Kenya since the year 2000 and lived there 4 years full time. I left a few month ago. I had a great time all those years but this is no place for serious relationship.I'm hitting TZ next trip this summer. I might try to do a coastal run up in Kenya if time permits. I'm also considering not using apps or hitting brothels (maybe) I think I can get by solely on day game and hitting clubs. Bringing sand to the beach in clubs fucked up an opportunity in a hotel bar twice.

My problem is that I'm still in the "hot dick stage" It was hard being surrounded by all those fats asses I wanted to fuck them all.

[Triple Darknes]

Will let you know if there are many changes. It's over a year now since I was last there but planning on going back in October to Msa. I can't get enough of that place and as I said previously I'd love to be able to retire there. I totally understand about the girl and I've been there too, but the comment wasn't necessary at all. Hope everything works out for you and have a blast man.Bob what makes you want to retire there?

For me what I'd like in a retirement is a good beach, I love fishing (for women and fish) and I'd like to get into scuba and possibly sailing. I'm not waiting for a pension although I am disabled and qualify for SSN.

I'm in the research and investigation stage, I've seen reports about crime in Mombasa, I'm pretty sure I could avoid it but If say Dar or even Maputo is peaceful then I'd prefer there too. Do you have experience there?

[Triple Darknes]

It has been some time that I visited Nairobi. I used to use Terminal hotel, which can be considered as half star hotel, but cheap and in downtown. In some web pages it is said that permanently closed. Is that true?

ThinAir, did you come to conclusion of the good hotel in Westland?It was open when I was there. I saw a couple go upstairs. But I was just in the bar area meeting a Tinder girl there.

[BobBlack]

Bob what makes you want to retire there?

For me what I'd like in a retirement is a good beach, I love fishing (for women and fish) and I'd like to get into scuba and possibly sailing. I'm not waiting for a pension although I am disabled and qualify for SSN.

I'm in the research and investigation stage, I've seen reports about crime in Mombasa, I'm pretty sure I could avoid it but If say Dar or even Maputo is peaceful then I'd prefer there too. Do you have experience there?I just love the climate, the women, and I could do whatever I want to when I want to. I've never been to Tz and haven't seen much that would interest me there.

[Member #4717]

Hello all,

I should stay next week in Red Ruby hotel in Ojijo Road.

Any ideas if this hotel is hooker friendly or not, can I get the girls to my room easily?

[Naked Gunz]

Any ideas if this hotel is hooker friendly or not, can I get the girls to my room easily?It seems my friend, you got no reply because you travel off the normal Nairobi monger beaten path. The closet thing of any significance in that area is K1, which is rich with pussy on the right nights. Your asking about Parklands, and I would assume you will be okay in that hotel, your probably shagging now, hehe! There is a female hostel in Ngara just down the road ripe with needy pussy going in and out. Not making suggestions, just saying! A RTFF observation will reflect Westland's mongers that prefer to get close to the action, or cheapskates that prefer dingy rooms in town with simply a bed and running water- but with Simmers and Madhouse gone, what is the point of even going through all that?

The in town clubs are full of bars for younger people, not mongers, for the most part. However, the ballsy (young or old) monger (s) can pull it off tho, I have seen it done. Just get some liquid courage, see a girl you want to fuck in say a decent bar like Tribeka near Nations center. Make sure she is not with a dude, and go for it. I'm Black American, but I am sure a Mzungu will get more action than me. Its assumed I am a player, with 10 baby mama on the side, so I have to work a bit harder.

[Ectasy]

Hello bro,

I plan to visit Kenya at Aug.

Anyone who tell me Nairobi night life?

I need to know hooker price, place, massage.

And hot club.

Add. Any hotel can I accomandation local woman?

Because some countries ask joinus charge.

Please recommend hotel.

Maybe hopt to spend time. Casino, safari, want to meet woman.

Thanks!

[Terry09]

Hello bro,

I plan to visit Kenya at Aug.

Anyone who tell me Nairobi night life?

I need to know hooker price, place, massage.

And hot club.

Add. Any hotel can I accomandation local woman?

Because some countries ask joinus charge.

Please recommend hotel.

Maybe hopt to spend time. Casino, safari, want to meet woman.

Thanks!I have never been to Kenya "bro" but I know all the answers to your questions, why? Because it's all there in the forum.

RTFF.

[Slowalk]

I have come to the conclusion I can't live in Kenya, especially after living in Nakuru.What did you experience that has made you determine that you cannot live in Kenya? I assume you mean for retirement?

[Member #4563]

What did you experience that has made you determine that you cannot live in Kenya? I assume you mean for retirement?I lived in Mombasa for a few years.

Left to Thailand. Not possible to live in Kenya. First few month will be fine but you will see latter.

[Naked Gunz]

What did you experience that has made you determine that you cannot live in Kenya? I assume you mean for retirement?First time in Kenya was 2005, too green to judge the place, but I fucking hated it except the pussy.

Did not return until 2012, and have returned like 15 x since then. The traffic has gotten worse since Japan is dumping all their used cars in Kenya (5000/ month unloaded in Mombasa), the roads are shit, and I love to drive-fast! I still don't get buying Mercedes, Porsche, Land Rover and driving in Nairobi. Bad food, bad service, especially from women. Kenyans speak English, but many are afraid to speak it in business situations. Expensive shitty real estate with cookie cutter design from years ago. Watching Kenya not take pride in renewing their own fucking country and paying China to do it is also a major turn off for me.

Dude I could write for another hour on this. I'm sure I will get some push back or agreement on my take, but the shine has simply worn off the coin for me. Too many negatives to overcome that I ignored before. That's why its best to be in a place for awhile before you go "all in". I will return for some African action again, but I got to get off my ass with my Spanish and go South. Latin American (Colombian) women put the rest of the world to shame.

[Naked Gunz]

What did you experience that has made you determine that you cannot live in Kenya? I assume you mean for retirement?Sorry mate, I see you inquired specifically about Naks. Well, Naks is supposedly much better than it used to be. However, for a Westerner living with a chic, its quite boring. Only one big club, called (7 D). Hard to tell talent from non-pro in there. Only one mall, and it has nothing. Tried to drive to some freaking crater tourist site just to have something to do on a lovely Sat. , and that turned to shit as we got lost in back roads. Simple shopping in various stores results in nothing but stares at the Black-American.

We lived in Page apartments for all of one week before a cop killed his GF and then himself while we we getting drunk and watching a movie on laptop: https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Police-officer-kills-girlfriend/1056-4113616-5ibugrz/index.html. Another cop gave me the low down, but I forgot it. I think he was paying for the chic he killed, but she had somebody else come by the night before the kill. Anyway two people are dead. He spared a very young boy that was in the room. There was blood everywhere. There was no fast response, no crime scene. I think they dragged the bodies to the truck over the ground! That should have been enough warning to Gunz that you aint safe in this country, but NO! Little head thinks for me at times. Let me tell you, an AK-47 is freaking loud! Gave the chic PTSD I think! Moved from there to Milimani apartments, the most upscale place in the city, and then I started having problems with the chic. Long story short, am done with serious consideration of Kenya.

If you want a monger point of view of Nakuru ask Neddy, I think he left a report. He seems fearless, look up his post.

[WiseHustler]

People please tread with extreme caution with this girl. Modus Operandi: Love bombing on phone. Take her out to a couple of very expensive dates. When the the-day comes she will either create a scene at your place OR pretend she is extremely I'll by acting (fake throw up etc.). I see her a Narcissist / BPD only to rip you off your money. Often goes by the name Rose / Rosie / Rosanna (she is there on Tinder as well).

Peace out!

[BionicMan]

First time in Kenya was 2005, too green to judge the place, but I fucking hated it except the pussy.

Did not return until 2012, and have returned like 15 x since then. The traffic has gotten worse since Japan is dumping all their used cars in Kenya (5000/ month unloaded in Mombasa), the roads are shit, and I love to drive-fast! I still don't get buying Mercedes, Porsche, Land Rover and driving in Nairobi. Bad food, bad service, especially from women. Kenyans speak English, but many are afraid to speak it in business situations. Expensive shitty real estate with cookie cutter design from years ago. Watching Kenya not take pride in renewing their own fucking country and paying China to do it is also a major turn off for me.

Dude I could write for another hour on this. I'm sure I will get some push back or agreement on my take, but the shine has simply worn off the coin for me. Too many negatives to overcome that I ignored before. That's why its best to be in a place for awhile before you go "all in". I will return for some African action again, but I got to get off my ass with my Spanish and go South. Latin American (Colombian) women put the rest of the world to shame.Have been to Kenya a few times, including a dreadful holiday in malindi (wrong time of the year). Never mongered there and not planning to. Don't trust P4 P girls there. I agree on all what you say about the country.

The Chinese mater is purely advantage for the Chinese to get access to local resources.

I would never live there and I can't understand the holidays at the coast there. There are far better options in the world.

[SceticoBlu]

I would never live there and I can't understand the holidays at the coast there. There are far better options in the world.If the criteria is availability of girls from every day life (some use the term semipro) for a reasonable price my guess is that there is hardly a better place than Kenya or more general than Africa.

Maybe you were talking of infrastructure, logistics etc.

[Naked Gunz]

Maybe you were talking of infrastructure, logistics etc.That's usually the reason, along with the threat of being robbed, either directly with a gun, or some chic setting you up. My so-called "girlfriend" of one year, upon seeing me ready to walk out the door, hid my wallet and my passport. I had to call security. She handed back the passport, but swore up and down she did not have the wallet. She then talked shit about me for an half hour to them about me. When she walked to a back room, the security guard walked over to her hiding spot and handed me the wallet, and said don't say anything. After I had my shit, I played along that I would just do without the wallet. I had the security drive me to a hotel for the night, and I would leave the country the next day because this chic's dad is a low-level MP, although he has so many kids he really don't give much of a shit about her. Later the guard said she kept glancing at the hiding spot so much that it tipped him off. I gave the security each 1000, but the motherfuckers at the home base wanted something too apparently because she bribed them to tell her where I was.

She came to the hotel to start more shit. Lucky for me that the hotel security had a real cop working there too. He read her the Riot act and sent her on her way apologizing for the drama. Of course that cost me more shillings. I have been getting Whatsapp and FB message and emails from friends professing her love for me and how I should come back. She did some more vile shit that night I won't go into, however, take it from me, don't trust these chics, and I am being nice by using "chics", as ISG don't allow certain words. I'm only unburdening myself to help others here.

[Triple Darknes]

Exactly. Don't go into relationsship with kenyan chics. Been there done that. Stick to pay as you go. Nothing to do with hooker or non hooker. Kenyan chicas are the greatest opportunists and can and will fleece you out of your last penny. If you let them. Either by sweet talk or outright robbery. Some will not shy away from outright contract kills. If there is assets. A british consular Officer summed it up to me that way. The safest way to live is. Keep a low profile. Most chicas will cheat as the kenyan guys do. Pay or no pay. Its in the genes. But I still Love Kenya and the kenyan chics. Just don't get involved. Their Interpretation of love is cash. As long as cash flows they love you. And that can apply to more than one person. Lying stealing cheating. I have a ruandan GF I send kidogo pesa to her. She is grateful and humble and studies hard. It seems to me that Ruanda and Uganda are better. But who can tell. At Naked. Don't run away from Kenya. I had some down days in Kenya. But. I miss it. And to fall in love is human. In my opinion a relationship in Kenya is down to constant cost control. And cunning. Dont expect faithfulness in return. But hey. Its quite normal to have a shamba girl or 2 on the side. In Uganda they call it Side Dish.

Neddy.

Right now in Disneyland.The funny thing was another Kenyan girl warned me about Kenyan girls (she also wants to "date" me) Kinda torn on Kenya in general, I like the place and the chicks are friendly. I can't tell but there also seemed to be a little brotherhood for the brothers going on. So I have had people kinda tell me the deal. While meeting a street pick up downtown (that flaked) the uber dude explained that even he had met his girl friend in Brew Bistro and chicks professionals with jobs or not are all essentially play for play.

That being said I don't want to do battle with working girls all day to pay reasonable prices, I'm older I don't take pills but either I blow quick or it takes me forever so I have to tell girls be prepared to fuck most of the night for LT.

Except in certain situations in certain cities the concept of LT isn't really reality in the US, when you say "all night" to an american working girl they think 1 hour instead of 15 minutes.

[Triple Darknes]

That's usually the reason, along with the threat of being robbed, either directly with a gun, or some chic setting you up. My so-called "girlfriend" of one year, upon seeing me ready to walk out the door, hid my wallet and my passport. I had to call security. She handed back the passport, but swore up and down she did not have the wallet. She then talked shit about me for an half hour to them about me. When she walked to a back room, the security guard walked over to her hiding spot and handed me the wallet, and said don't say anything. After I had my shit, I played along that I would just do without the wallet. I had the security drive me to a hotel for the night, and I would leave the country the next day because this chic's dad is a low-level MP, although he has so many kids he really don't give much of a shit about her. Later the guard said she kept glancing at the hiding spot so much that it tipped him off. I gave the security each 1000, but the motherfuckers at the home base wanted something too apparently because she bribed them to tell her where I was.Hey Gunz,

You're helping me. You're taking the rose colored lenses off for me.

[Member #4563]

take it from me, don't trust these chics..Every girl in Kenya is a potential enemy. From a "loving" person they can transform instantly to a monster. I don't have the psychological tools to analyze this but that what happens in reality. I always record the conversations, keep whatapp history etc. When they turned against you its like you see the devil.

So trust is zero, authorization and access should be restricted. Don't forget to lie about everything and hide your true identity or they can hunt you down. This is true for Mombasa but not sure about rest of Kenya. Most of the time thinks are OK as long you keep them in the dark as much as possible. Level.

Pattaya has also scammers that operates on the emotional level they exploit human weakness and make you fall in love then drain your money. So this is why guys keep sending money to girls as their emotion are manipulated. Two girls tried but my emotions are long gone so nothing to play with.

In Mombasa is a brutal war at a very low and violent level. If you try to develop any relationship in Kenya just say bye to your money or even your life. Thats one of the reasons I left to a more secure country.

[Neddy69]

That's usually the reason, along with the threat of being robbed, either directly with a gun, or some chic setting you up. My so-called "girlfriend" of one year, upon seeing me ready to walk out the door, hid my wallet and my passport. I had to call security. She handed back the passport, but swore up and down she did not have the wallet. She then talked shit about me for an half hour to them about me. When she walked to a back room, the security guard walked over to her hiding spot and handed me the wallet, and said don't say anything. After I had my shit, I played along that I would just do without the wallet. I had the security drive me to a hotel for the night, and I would leave the country the next day because this chic's dad is a low-level MP, although he has so many kids he really don't give much of a shit about her. Later the guard said she kept glancing at the hiding spot so much that it tipped him off. I gave the security each 1000, but the motherfuckers at the home base wanted something too apparently because she bribed them to tell her where I was.

She came to the hotel to start more shit. Lucky for me that the hotel security had a real cop working there too. He read her the Riot act and sent her on her way apologizing for the drama. Of course that cost me more shillings. I have been getting Whatsapp and FB message and emails from friends professing her love for me and how I should come back. She did some more vile shit that night I won't go into, however, take it from me, don't trust these chics, and I am being nice by using "chics", as ISG don't allow certain words. I'm only unburdening myself to help others here.Oh. So you had a real drama queen. Of course. If the ATM threatens to walk off. Some chicas can get quite nasty. But to be fair that doesn't apply to Kenya only. I had a real drama queen in Gambia too. Here helps only to disappear in the dead of the night. A friend of mine sneaked once out of the back window to escape. It can turn really ugly. I have lots of stories to tell from kenyan expats as well as some stories I experienced on my own. If you want to know what's to be expected just watch some nigerian movies. At Naked. Just take a cooling off period from Kenya. Sooner or later you will be drawn back to the place. Last trip to Kenya went without a hitch. But I moved all the time. In Mtwapa I had a sweet student for 3 weeks. I managed to get her out of my room with a trick. Than I sneaked away.

Neddy.
Cunning Lying Cheating my way through Africa hehe
@ madaexpert. Spot on. Keep them totally in the dark. And if necessary lie. Oh baby my mother is dying I hv to fly back to the US...

[Naked Gunz]

Oh. So you had a real drama queen. Of course. If the ATM threatens to walk off. Some chicas can get quite nasty. It can turn really ugly. At Naked. Just take a cooling off period from Kenya. ...Ugly is an understatement. Yeah, going to pivot my focus back to the Philippines, with a splash of Thailand, and South America.

[BionicMan]

If the criteria is availability of girls from every day life (some use the term semipro) for a reasonable price my guess is that there is hardly a better place than Kenya or more general than Africa.

Maybe you were talking of infrastructure, logistics etc.Honestly I wasn't there in a mongering status. So, indeed, logistic, prices, infrastructure were the judging factors.

Having more experience in Thailand I don't see the reason to spend nearly same as in a western country for an accomodation that in Thailand would cost 20/40% - and thIs applies all along other issues.

Food choice is limited and as soon as you venture in something more appropriate prices go up.

Fact is that you pay premium prices and people has third world salaries.

[SceticoBlu]

Having more experience in Thailand I don't see the reason to spend nearly same as in a western country for an accomodation that in Thailand would cost 20/40% - and thIs applies all along other issues.

.I have a 3* Hotel in Nairobi for 5 K and a better accomodation in Mombasa for even less.

My point is that in Kenya with some flirting and shillings the girls from shops and restaurants I get naked after at most the second dinner is around 50 percent. In my country it is about 2 percent.

What will be the percentage in Thailand or South America?

Me I don't like blow job bars and discos.

[Member #4563]

What will be the percentage in Thailand or South America?

Me I don't like blow job bars and discos.I am qualified to answer as I live in Thailand and been traveling from city to city looking for Non-Pro. Your chance is Zero. Let me repeat as my English is not perfect, your chance to date a 22 years old from a Mall, shop etc and have a dinner assuming your age is past 35 years is zero. If you are 25 or even 30 then you will get a nice GF.

One more trivial thing that we tend to forget. No one speak a word in English out of the tourist path. Girls can't talk with you even if they want to. So you need to be super handsome and below 30 to enjoy life. So what is left is to get Pros or super ugly and short girls with children in from provinces as your date. And even this is hard.

[Bond69X]

Honestly I wasn't there in a mongering status. So, indeed, logistic, prices, infrastructure were the judging factors.

Having more experience in Thailand I don't see the reason to spend nearly same as in a western country for an accomodation that in Thailand would cost 20/40% - and thIs applies all along other issues.

Food choice is limited and as soon as you venture in something more appropriate prices go up.

Fact is that you pay premium prices and people has third world salaries.I fully agree that in terms of food as soon as you go into normal or european standard, prices get crazy.

A dinner for 2 in Italian restaurant with a basic bottle of wine cost me 80 usd, in Bamburi (for those who know Yul's restaurant).

Same for hotels, prices are too high for what you get.

However, chicas for all night cost you less than 3 or 4 whiskys.

This is amazing!

[Mombie75]

I fully agree that in terms of food as soon as you go into normal or european standard, prices get crazy.

A dinner for 2 in Italian restaurant with a basic bottle of wine cost me 80 usd, in Bamburi (for those who know Yul's restaurant).

Same for hotels, prices are too high for what you get.

However, chicas for all night cost you less than 3 or 4 whiskys.

This is amazing!Pussy is one of the cheapest things in Kenya.

[Naked Gunz]

I am qualified to answer as I live in Thailand and been traveling from city to city looking for Non-Pro. Your chance is Zero. Let me repeat as my English is not perfect, your chance to date a 22 years old from a Mall, shop etc and have a dinner assuming your age is past 35 years is zero. If you are 25 or even 30 then you will get a nice GF.

One more trivial thing that we tend to forget. No one speak a word in English out of the tourist path. Girls can't talk with you even if they want to. So you need to be super handsome and below 30 to enjoy life. So what is left is to get Pros or super ugly and short girls with children in from provinces as your date. And even this is hard.Mada is correct on all points. I thought to make Pattaya a retirement option, but all the reasons Mada gave is why its not really a good one, although many expats are there living in cramped 30 square meter condo made of cheap materials for $60,000 and more. There are so many expats there the woman really has choice. New girls from the province are scooped like money lying in a road.

[Naked Gunz]

I can't tell but there also seemed to be a little brotherhood for the brothers going on. So I have had people kinda tell me the deal. Kenyan women either like Kenyan men for the most part, or hate them for fucking around so much. Many like to fuck flashy Nigerians, but they know they're playing with fire with that.

[Vanilla4]

My point is that in Kenya with some flirting and shillings the girls from shops and restaurants I get naked after at most the second dinner is around 50 percent. In my country it is about 2 percent.

Definitely more than 50% in TZ.

[HaynesPi87]

Trying to figure this out and I've been reading the forum.

I think my airbnb is a calm and quiet so I don't know how much is happening there. Are there places in Nairobi to meet women then take them back to a small room? Is that how Sabina Joy, Liddos or Black Diamond work? Meet someone then have a little fun then on with your way? I encountered this a lot in Southeast Asia so I'm trying to figure that out. Yes rookie mistake on no hotel but I'll be there for a bit so I'm trying to figure that out.

I see a lot of you recommending apps or just meeting people but I'm wondering what are the best places to simply meet a lady and go for a room. Definite it props if anyone knows the best place to find tall Kenyan amazon / ladies.

Appreciate it and I'm still perusing the forum, but I'm not exactly finding a direct place to meet then hookup.

[Pokeris]

Trying to figure this out and I've been reading the forum.

I think my airbnb is a calm and quiet so I don't know how much is happening there. Are there places in Nairobi to meet women then take them back to a small room? Is that how Sabina Joy, Liddos or Black Diamond work? Meet someone then have a little fun then on with your way? I encountered this a lot in Southeast Asia so I'm trying to figure that out. Yes rookie mistake on no hotel but I'll be there for a bit so I'm trying to figure that out.

I see a lot of you recommending apps or just meeting people but I'm wondering what are the best places to simply meet a lady and go for a room. Definite it props if anyone knows the best place to find tall Kenyan amazon / ladies.

Appreciate it and I'm still perusing the forum, but I'm not exactly finding a direct place to meet then hookup.At nairobi is easy to get girls everywhere. Try diffrent methods and look which works best for you!! You can find girls on tinder, badoo, tagged, afrointroductions chat with them agree the price and invite them at your place but try not to pay more than 1500- 2000 shillings for short time and 3000-3500 shillings all night. You will see many girls on dating sites will ask 50-100 dollars just bargain and never pay this price!! You can also get girls for free if keen date few times invite them for dinner, drinks and threat them nice other ways, but most of the times its cost more money anyway at the end. You can talk with girls on streets also and collect numbers. Black diamond is nice place to find freelancers also, just most of a girls have bad attitude here and are pushy for buying them drinks and asking sillly prices for short time or all night so be wise here find right one and don't pay more than 3000-4000 for all night.

[Pokeris]

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/taxify-introduces-boda-boda-hailing-service-in-nairobi/

I never use boda boda at nairobi myself before because its wasnt safest way to travel without helmet and with drivers who drives like crazy, but next time I will give a go with helmet its looks safer little bit and at least you know who is picking you up and good to avoid worst traffic at nairobi!

[HaynesPi87]

At nairobi is easy to get girls everywhere. Try diffrent methods and look which works best for you!! You can find girls on tinder, badoo, tagged, afrointroductions chat with them agree the price and invite them at your place but try not to pay more than 1500- 2000 shillings for short time and 3000-3500 shillings all night. You will see many girls on dating sites will ask 50-100 dollars just bargain and never pay this price!! You can also get girls for free if keen date few times invite them for dinner, drinks and threat them nice other ways, but most of the times its cost more money anyway at the end. You can talk with girls on streets also and collect numbers. Black diamond is nice place to find freelancers also, just most of a girls have bad attitude here and are pushy for buying them drinks and asking sillly prices for short time or all night so be wise here find right one and don't pay more than 3000-4000 for all night.Appreciate it my issue was my place. I need a place just for the short time. I can't use my place. Are there short time hotels that's more my question. Interesting on the streets. Black Diamond. Hmmm looks like I'l have to try those apps then ugh I didn't want to.

[Naked Gunz]

I never use boda boda at nairobi myself before because its wasnt safest way to travel without helmet and with drivers who drives like crazy, but next time I will give a go with helmet its looks safer little bit and at least you know who is picking you up and good to avoid worst traffic at nairobi!I would kill to have a Go Pro on my head during some of my epic boda boda rides. I rode from Ginkomba once to town and we almost killed a kid, got run over by a bus, on sidewalks, it was extreme riding, and yes, you will beat traffic!

[Naked Gunz]

Trying to figure this out and I've been reading the forum. I think my airbnb is a calm and quiet so I don't know how much is happening there. Are there places in Nairobi to meet women then take them back to a small room? Is that how Sabina Joy, Liddos or Black Diamond work? Meet someone then have a little fun then on with your way? I encountered this a lot in Southeast Asia so I'm trying to figure that out. Yes rookie mistake on no hotel but I'll be there for a bit so I'm trying to figure that out. I see a lot of you recommending apps or just meeting people but I'm wondering what are the best places to simply meet a lady and go for a room. Definite it props if anyone knows the best place to find tall Kenyan amazon / ladies. Appreciate it and I'm still perusing the forum, but I'm not exactly finding a direct place to meet then hookup.Dude,

You got to read more. I alone have provided five years of info, and I know your questions will be answered, but am feeling motherly, so I will feed you: Liddos is a strip bar, and they have beds there, so its expected you fuck a chic there. She will inflate prices to come to your room before or after work. Black DIA chicks will inflate so you really have to bargain there. They are a bit hardcore there because they feel they are top dollar. Sabina Joy is a Kenyan joint, there are beds there. Southeast Asia is a 180 degree different mindset in my opinion. Don't try to fit square pegs in round holes.

ABB landlords don't give two shit about who you bring to the room, at least in my experience. All they want is they're money. Why get a cheap room? The logistics of finding a chic in BD, going to CBD to your room, then back to your ABB in the dead of night is a bit too much, and the both of you are exposing yourselves to robbery being out that early if you leave the room.

[SceticoBlu]

Appreciate it my issue was my place. I need a place just for the short timeNext Tom Mboya street there are some GH for about 2. 5 K per night. In this bracket you should find rooms everywhere around in Nairobi.

[Pokeris]

I would kill to have a Go Pro on my head during some of my epic boda boda rides. I rode from Ginkomba once to town and we almost killed a kid, got run over by a bus, on sidewalks, it was extreme riding, and yes, you will beat traffic!Sounds like you have extreme journey its most important your ride finish with happy end.

[Naked Gunz]

Sounds like you have extreme journey its most important your ride finish with happy end.I really like riding motorbikes / cycles. I'm sure I would not not like getting flattened by a vehicle, but boda boda in Kenya is fun to me. I don't know, maybe its just me.

[Neddy69]

I would kill to have a Go Pro on my head during some of my epic boda boda rides. I rode from Ginkomba once to town and we almost killed a kid, got run over by a bus, on sidewalks, it was extreme riding, and yes, you will beat traffic!Try Kampala. Low cost Roller Coaster ride. I use Boda in Mtwapa only in side roads. Buy the best Disabilty insurance money can buy.

Neddy.

[HaynesPi87]

Dude,

You got to read more. I alone have provided five years of info, and I know your questions will be answered, but am feeling motherly, so I will feed you: Liddos is a strip bar, and they have beds there, so its expected you fuck a chic there. She will inflate prices to come to your room before or after work. Black DIA chicks will inflate so you really have to bargain there. They are a bit hardcore there because they feel they are top dollar. Sabina Joy is a Kenyan joint, there are beds there. Southeast Asia is a 180 degree different mindset in my opinion. Don't try to fit square pegs in round holes.

ABB landlords don't give two shit about who you bring to the room, at least in my experience. All they want is they're money. Why get a cheap room? The logistics of finding a chic in BD, going to CBD to your room, then back to your ABB in the dead of night is a bit too much, and the both of you are exposing yourselves to robbery being out that early if you leave the room.Thanks I went a few pages back but it wasn't addressing my need. Interesting on the different mindset. But then I see it similar if you can get it on in the bed, actually that's more like Brasil for my experiences. Eh that's a good point. I had to go cheap for the moment in setting things up. A bit of a downturn on the money before this month. Sometimes I have to go differently unlike some of my other trips where I definitely got a GF room and had a good time. This is true with all that logistics for BD, reminds me of my time in Singapore way too much running around. I'll check again with the ABB person.

Should be an interesting time.

[HaynesPi87]

Next Tom Mboya street there are some GH for about 2. 5 K per night. In this bracket you should find rooms everywhere around in Nairobi.Thanks. That's definitely an idea.

[Naked Gunz]

Sometimes I have to go differently unlike some of my other trips where I definitely got a GF room and had a good time. This is true with all that logistics for BD, reminds me of my time in Singapore way too much running around. I'll check again with the ABB person. Should be an interesting time.Ah Singapore, $100/ night Hotel 99 is the cheapest monger option for you and your Orchard Tower or Geylang working girl, and for me sometimes a windowless room! I've been telling Nairobi newbies Woodmere is the perfect monger pigeon hole: cheap, clean, quiet, scenic, hot water, kitchenette and no walk of shame. Liquor store and grocery within meters, good wifi & TV for recoup hours.

[Devil1687]

Hey guys,

Was just thinking that I should take an external opinion about a personal matter.

Went to NBO in Feb and got in touch with a girl through Tinder. Told her exactly that I wanted some fun for an hour and willing to give 3000. She came over to my hotel and ohh my my. At 6 feet and a fantastic toned body 25 years old it was an hour that I remember even till today.

After I came returned I kept in touch as its only a 5 HR flight and hoped to meet her again. But then she asked for financial help. So twice I have sent 50 $ to her to help her out as she lost her job. She wanted this month as well to which I refused. Latest communication with her is that she says I am her boyfriend and likes me.

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO.

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

The.

[Vanilla4]

Why would you send money to a girl of which you re not even sure that you ll see her again?


Hey guys,

Was just thinking that I should take an external opinion about a personal matter.

Went to NBO in Feb and got in touch with a girl through Tinder. Told her exactly that I wanted some fun for an hour and willing to give 3000. She came over to my hotel and ohh my my. At 6 feet and a fantastic toned body 25 years old it was an hour that I remember even till today.

After I came returned I kept in touch as its only a 5 HR flight and hoped to meet her again. But then she asked for financial help. So twice I have sent 50 $ to her to help her out as she lost her job. She wanted this month as well to which I refused. Latest communication with her is that she says I am her boyfriend and likes me.

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO.

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

The.

[Mombie75]

Hey guys,

Was just thinking that I should take an external opinion about a personal matter.

Went to NBO in Feb and got in touch with a girl through Tinder. Told her exactly that I wanted some fun for an hour and willing to give 3000. She came over to my hotel and ohh my my. At 6 feet and a fantastic toned body 25 years old it was an hour that I remember even till today.

After I came returned I kept in touch as its only a 5 HR flight and hoped to meet her again. But then she asked for financial help. So twice I have sent 50 $ to her to help her out as she lost her job. She wanted this month as well to which I refused. Latest communication with her is that she says I am her boyfriend and likes me.

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO.

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

The.If you do not send the money but you do go back she will still meet you. No matter who you give your number to in Kenya it is only a matter of time before they get malaria and need money for meds, need money as the rent is late, or need money as their grandmother has died for the seventh time.

[BobBlack]

Why would you send money to a girl of which you re not even sure that you ll see her again?Definitely not. Keep your money in your wallet. Don't you worry, she'll still be there when and if you return. Do the obvious thing and think for yourself, if you're sending her money how many others are doing the same. The loss of her job is probably a lie and she's living well. You're just supplementing her 15 k salary if she gets that much and don't believe everything she tells you either, they'll try you for everything and still be getting fucked by someone else while you're not there.

[Run Mann]

Hey guys,

(Snip) I know this sounds weird . (Snip)

The.Do you make it a habit of doing weird things? You already sent her money twice and if you send it again, she will surely ask again.

[Pokeris]

Hey guys,

Was just thinking that I should take an external opinion about a personal matter.

Went to NBO in Feb and got in touch with a girl through Tinder. Told her exactly that I wanted some fun for an hour and willing to give 3000. She came over to my hotel and ohh my my. At 6 feet and a fantastic toned body 25 years old it was an hour that I remember even till today.

After I came returned I kept in touch as its only a 5 HR flight and hoped to meet her again. But then she asked for financial help. So twice I have sent 50 $ to her to help her out as she lost her job. She wanted this month as well to which I refused. Latest communication with her is that she says I am her boyfriend and likes me.

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO.

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

The.Don't be silly mate never ever send money and don't trust these girls probably she has 2-3 more same boyfriends like you and demands money from all also and likes them a lot still they support her. Better option in case you ever comeback nairobi and want meet her just call her meet.

And pay her again for sex like you done first time. This way it will be cheaper for you. Remember free pussy most of the time cost more because you anyway spend money just diffrent way!

Last December when I was at nairobi I find girl on badoo and offer her to meet me for 2000 shillings short time she refused to come and told me she is not a working girl and don't selling her body (probably she wasnt happy with my offer).

So we never meet. Suddenly after 2 month she text me on whatsapp and start saying she miss me (make me laugh) and ask when I comeback nairobi again. We chat little bit naughty and I ask her to send me her naked photo she done it also later she send her videos when she playing with herself. All week we chat and it was fun. Next time she call me on video call with sad face and start telling sad story how she need money for pay new house rent. She start to cry and ask can I send her 300 dollars to help her sort it out her problem. I laugh and said to her do i look so stupid or what? She get upset and we finish video call. Never heard from her again! Probably 20-30 percent of girls which I meet in person or online from africa later start asking money! Just say no!!

[BionicMan]

Hey guys,

Was just thinking that I should take an external opinion about a personal matter.

Went to NBO in Feb and got in touch with a girl through Tinder. Told her exactly that I wanted some fun for an hour and willing to give 3000. She came over to my hotel and ohh my my. At 6 feet and a fantastic toned body 25 years old it was an hour that I remember even till today.

After I came returned I kept in touch as its only a 5 HR flight and hoped to meet her again. But then she asked for financial help. So twice I have sent 50 $ to her to help her out as she lost her job. She wanted this month as well to which I refused. Latest communication with her is that she says I am her boyfriend and likes me.

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO.

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

The.The answer is in the math.

How much are you going to pay overall to fuck her a few times (if you ever go back?

You paid her 3 k for one hour and sent her far more than that for nothing in return (yet).

So you are entitled to free sex equal to 100 $ (3-4 times at least by your rate), but don't think to get the next encounter for free.

She will raise the $ level and the 100 $ will remain as a non refundable loan or a free donation.

The smart ass has, so far, maximised the ownership of a pussy: 130 $ for one hour of sex.

I don't know where you live, but saying Nairobi is "just a 5 hrs flight away" makes me think you live in the middle of some African desert.

Otherwise I don't see the point of thinking to fly 5 hrs, with related costs, to get some Kenyan pussy at a premium price.

I might sound harsh, but sometime better take a cold shower and wake up.

[Devil1687]

The answer is in the math.

How much are you going to pay overall to fuck her a few times (if you ever go back?
I might sound harsh, but sometime better take a cold shower and wake up.Dear BM,

I appreciate your answer and thank you for a reply to my dilemma. But now let me put a few more details.

1. She has an awesome body and we both enjoyed that day and I really miss that despite my recent visit to Thailand, Laos and Vietnam and few other African countries last year.

2. I live in dubai and work for an airline so my tickets are quite cheap.

3. She stays alone in an apartment and has offered that I stay there instead of a hotel on my visit.

4. I love to travel and fuck.

Does this change the equation?

Regards,

The.

[Neddy69]

The answer is in the math.

How much are you going to pay overall to fuck her a few times (if you ever go back?

You paid her 3 k for one hour and sent her far more than that for nothing in return (yet).

So you are entitled to free sex equal to 100 $ (3-4 times at least by your rate), but don't think to get the next encounter for free.

She will raise the $ level and the 100 $ will remain as a non refundable loan or a free donation.

The smart ass has, so far, maximised the ownership of a pussy: 130 $ for one hour of sex.

I don't know where you live, but saying Nairobi is "just a 5 hrs flight away" makes me think you live in the middle of some African desert.

Otherwise I don't see the point of thinking to fly 5 hrs, with related costs, to get some Kenyan pussy at a premium price.

I might sound harsh, but sometime better take a cold shower and wake up.Well. I understand what he means. Taking a cold shower is sometimes not enough. Its called love / attachment. Some of the chicas really can f.ck your brains out. In Africa the equation is Love=Money. You think / hope by paying the poor chica does not have to sell her pussy. I ve done it a couple of times for a limited period but everybody can like to waste his money as he wishes. My approach is before I give the money to a charitable foundation I give the money to a needy chica. But that doesn't guarantee exclusive pussy rights. To send twice 50 bucks won't break the bank. She might not even lie. Everybody needs money.

Up to you.

[ArisCasa]

The answer is in the math.

How much are you going to pay overall to fuck her a few times (if you ever go back?

You paid her 3 k for one hour and sent her far more than that for nothing in return (yet).

So you are entitled to free sex equal to 100 $ (3-4 times at least by your rate), but don't think to get the next encounter for free.

She will raise the $ level and the 100 $ will remain as a non refundable loan or a free donation.

The smart ass has, so far, maximised the ownership of a pussy: 130 $ for one hour of sex.

I don't know where you live, but saying Nairobi is "just a 5 hrs flight away" makes me think you live in the middle of some African desert.

Otherwise I don't see the point of thinking to fly 5 hrs, with related costs, to get some Kenyan pussy at a premium price.

I might sound harsh, but sometime better take a cold shower and wake up.I had this gut feel the benevolent philanthropist could be from my country. And was I proven right?

Dude you don't pay for a pizza not baked yet! However yummy it tasted last you ate! You don't live around the Pizzeria!

[Naked Gunz]

Well. I understand what he means. Taking a cold shower is sometimes not enough. Its called love / attachment. You think / hope by paying the poor chica does not have to sell her pussy. I ve done it a couple of times for a limited period but everybody can like to waste his money as he wishes. My approach is before I give the money to a charitable foundation I give the money to a needy chica. But that doesn't guarantee exclusive pussy rights. To send twice 50 bucks won't break the bank. She might not even lie. Everybody needs money. Up to you.Agree, it's his money. He can do what he wants with it. I doubt he will wreck the market by pumping a few shillings into the economy. There are limits, however, on this type of behaviour. Although the big man upstairs might smile a bit wider if the money goes to poor kids.


I appreciate your answer and thank you for a reply to my dilemma. 1. She has an awesome body and we both enjoyed that day and I really miss that despite my recent visit to Thailand, Laos and Vietnam and few other African countries last year. 2. I live in dubai and work for an airline so my tickets are quite cheap. 3. She stays alone in an apartment and has offered that I stay there instead of a hotel on my visit. 4. I love to travel and fuck. Does this change the equation?Your are in ground zero. You live in a pussy capitol with beautiful bodies all around you, albeit with very inflated prices-still, I'm sure you can find some GFE there in DXB. And you are within short flight distance of many more pussy capitols, so I don't understand the hang up with one Kenyan. Staying with her is the exact what she wants to cut you and your money off from the millions of women in Nairobi. If she lives in Eastlands, don't even think about it. The word will be out about the foreigner in the neighborhood.

All you have to do is walk in town and see sexy bodies. Sounds like your looking for love, and contradicting yourself in your own post, so read my posts about living and staying with a Kenyan. All I have to show for it is lies.

[Vanilla4]

Dear BM,

I appreciate your answer and thank you for a reply to my dilemma. But now let me put a few more details.

1. She has an awesome body and we both enjoyed that day and I really miss that despite my recent visit to Thailand, Laos and Vietnam and few other African countries last year.

2. I live in dubai and work for an airline so my tickets are quite cheap.

3. She stays alone in an apartment and has offered that I stay there instead of a hotel on my visit.

4. I love to travel and fuck.

Does this change the equation?

Not really.

You even don't know yet if you (a) want to travel to Nairobi again and (b) expect her to keep her pussy exclusively for you (what she is most likely not doing, see other posts and how easily she agreed to have sex with you for a certain pussy shilling).

BTW I will be in Nairobi next weekend, I can try her honesty for you if you like.

Cheers.

V.

[BionicMan]

I had this gut feel the benevolent philanthropist could be from my country. And was I proven right?

Dude you don't pay for a pizza not baked yet! However yummy it tasted last you ate! You don't live around the Pizzeria!Me too, bet the guy lives in the sandpit.

Ok, airticket is 10% of the fare for him.

Ok, he doesn't pay for the for the accomodation as he goes by the girl (friend? This will force him in no freedom.

Dubai is not lacking of African chicks, cautioun is a must in that area as the scams are many.

Lots of African chicks in airlines, by the way.

OK 2 x50 $ won't break the bank, but that is just the start, I would say.

Someone capable to be a extract money for nothing, is capable of more during pillow talks, cuddling, and in the long hours of the stay together. Many ways to convey messages.

Anyhow, true, it is his money, but as he has been telling the story in here, we are entitled to pass on our opinion and he has to accept them. As he seems to. As long as he is ready to read them and no simply ask FR Mopinijns well aware he will sort of ignore them.

[Gropai]

I'm planning on a trip to Nairobi and I want to find a high end escort. Is there any recommendation? Both agency and independent girls will do.

[Naked Gunz]

I'm planning on a trip to Nairobi and I want to find a high end escort. Is there any recommendation? Both agency and independent girls will do.There in a place called Black Diamond. Go on a Fri. Or Sat night about 8:30 and sit at the bar and watch them come in dressed very nice. They will start at around $100 and be happy with that since you want to be big spender. You will have your pick. High end is a personal choice, and any advertised high end is more than likely false advertising. There are also some college students on Tinder with nice pics looking for clients. Quality, combined with a good brain is hard to find within a short time frame with no connections.

[Devil1687]

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO?

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

Thanks guys for making the effort and time to answer.

I thought about it. Will travel next month for one last fuck. Tell her personally its over and then off to Kabalagala to celebrate.

Cheers.

The.

[Dg8787]

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO?

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

Thanks guys for making the effort and time to answer.

I thought about it. Will travel next month for one last fuck. Tell her personally its over and then off to Kabalagala to celebrate.

Cheers.

The.Send her the money.

[Naked Gunz]

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO?Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again. I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.Thanks guys for making the effort and time to answer.I thought about it. Will travel next month for one last fuck. Tell her personally its over and then off to Kabalagala to celebrate.Cheers.The.My friend, I think you are truly shark bait, the worm on the hook, the lamb tied to the tree to attract the wolf. Good luck.

[Neddy69]

Question. Do I send her the money even though I really don't want to travel to NBO?

Or shall I send her the money incase I go back and atleast have chance of seeing her again.

I know this sounds weird but I was thinking about other opinions.

Thanks guys for making the effort and time to answer.

I thought about it. Will travel next month for one last fuck. Tell her personally its over and then off to Kabalagala to celebrate.

Cheers.

The.She ll f. Ck your brains out. You'll never make it to kabalagala.

[Devil1687]

Send her the money.Out of all you are the only one to suggest. Thanks. I just did.

Cheers.

The.

[Pokeris]

Out of all you are the only one to suggest. Thanks. I just did.

Cheers.

The.You are the best now!! Probably soon she need it again so be prepared.

[Kib123]

Dear BM,

I appreciate your answer and thank you for a reply to my dilemma. But now let me put a few more details.

1. She has an awesome body and we both enjoyed that day and I really miss that despite my recent visit to Thailand, Laos and Vietnam and few other African countries last year.

2. I live in dubai and work for an airline so my tickets are quite cheap.

3. She stays alone in an apartment and has offered that I stay there instead of a hotel on my visit.

4. I love to travel and fuck.

Does this change the equation?

Regards,

The.Yet another one falling in love with a hooker. Yawn.

My friend, the once in a lifetime paid wild sex ride rarely gets better on repeat, quite the opposite. Staying in her apartment will ensure things go downhill that much faster. This should probably be listed as the First Universal Law of Mongering to save poor souls.

Read our brother Naked Gunz's recent posts on relevant subject.

[Naked Gunz]

Read our brother Naked Gunz's recent posts on the relevant subject.I tried to tell him, but he seems to think he is the exception to the rule of survival of the fittest. I have learned, you cannot bring your first world culture and custom to Africa, or any developing country for that matter. When it comes to dealing with (fucking) these women. You have to sort of go down to a basic level, use more basic tactics, like fake email and local phone only, get in and get out, and not involve your feelings in this because they will be an eventual culture clash of the most epic level. In the jungle, the females in the pride must wait until the Alpha male has had his fill of the kill, despite the fact that they brought down the kill, and have cubs to feed. In Kenya, as in most developing countries, women are still objects and second class citizens. They still have to fuck for a job in many instances. They legalized Polygamy despite some female MP objection. "be*itch, shut the fuck up". When you get off the plane, your going back in time.

My point is that you can't bring your first world culture and custom into the developing world. We, as men from countries where women have power, education, and money are used to women being with you because they choose to be with you, you really have no say in the matter. You have been chosen to some extent by the chic because she is at a point where she is ready to settle down, and your suitable for some reason or other, while she really wants to fuck her fantasy, she knows she has security with your lame ass. All the while, they have gained power in society, and impressed the entire "virtuous mother and wife facade, and that you won't be happy in your life without a happy wife. You are really just her accessory, no longer head of household, and bombarded with adverts from that fucking 65 inch LCD in the corner that says your an incompetent asshole in your own home that can't change a lightbulb. These adverts coming from female executives at the marketing agency. I don't know what they have on the tele in Britain and Aus, but this is what I must endure in the US. I am a man, therefore, I am the enemy. Me too movement in full momentum.

So you want to indulge your jungle fever in Kenya on an adventure that's described in ISG by your mates in their words? There are hot bodies, big tits, nice ass and pillow talk. It's all good. But you have forgotten one thing. You have more money in your pocket than the people around you will see in years and lifetimes. That much money is a drug. People get hooked on drugs after one use. Realize people will do anything to keep up the high. You have just become the pusher of the most powerful of narcotics-big money. You have just given status, power and an addiction to an unsuspecting victim. Do you know entire villages celebrate somebody with a lifeline to the US or England? They cannot brag enough about it. Your number, email is the lifeline and is subject to relentless use. Anything will be said to you to continue the high. All their friends will see the life change. If its lost they will be silently judged as stupid that they could not hold on to it.

When I go to K1, all heads turn my way. Am Black, but can't hide the American. You need to be aware, and very careful of that kind of power and money in a developing and corrupt country. You walk a fine line. I wish I could post the pic of the chic I fell for. She was not a ho, as previously mentioned by my so-called "brother". That hurt. I have navigated many hookers in Kenya without losing myself. But the lady is the father of an MP, very, very beautiful. She was so beautiful she didn't know it and manipulated by jealous Kenyans that saw she was a village girl that did not know shit from shinola. I had to teach her how to use a shower. If you want to know if she is a real ho vs a true village girl, point her towards the shower. If there is a flood in the toilet afterward, she probably is not a seasoned ho. Despite you falling for her innocence, she will be manipulated by other Kenyans, because she now has money and power if she is young, but does not know how to handle it. She will seek advice, and they will give her the advice to benefit themselves with her. Fuck your relationship, we need to get paid! She will listen to them, and not you.

If she is older and smarter she will not tell anybody, but that means you are probably number 3 or 4 on the list and she is hot and sexy and has a steady income. I deviated from my original plan of getting laid and having fun. Just keep to the plan. OK, am done, just don't be a victim.

[Neddy69]

I tried to tell him, but he seems to think he is the exception to the rule of survival of the fittest. I have learned, you cannot bring your first world culture and custom to Africa, or any developing country for that matter. When it comes to dealing with (fucking) these women. You have to sort of go down to a basic level, use more basic tactics, like fake email and local phone only, get in and get out, and not involve your feelings in this because they will be an eventual culture clash of the most epic level. In the jungle, the females in the pride must wait until the Alpha male has had his fill of the kill, despite the fact that they brought down the kill, and have cubs to feed. In Kenya, as in most developing countries, women are still objects and second class citizens. They still have to fuck for a job in many instances. They legalized Polygamy despite some female MP objection. "be*itch, shut the fuck up". When you get off the plane, your going back in time.

My point is that you can't bring your first world culture and custom into the developing world. We, as men from countries where women have power, education, and money are used to women being with you because they choose to be with you, you really have no say in the matter. You have been chosen to some extent by the chic because she is at a point where she is ready to settle down, and your suitable for some reason or other, while she really wants to fuck her fantasy, she knows she has security with your lame ass. All the while, they have gained power in society, and impressed the entire "virtuous mother and wife facade, and that you won't be happy in your life without a happy wife. You are really just her accessory, no longer head of household, and bombarded with adverts from that fucking 65 inch LCD in the corner that says your an incompetent asshole in your own home that can't change a lightbulb. These adverts coming from female executives at the marketing agency. I don't know what they have on the tele in Britain and Aus, but this is what I must endure in the US. I am a man, therefore, I am the enemy. Me too movement in full momentum.

So you want to indulge your jungle fever in Kenya on an adventure that's described in ISG by your mates in their words? There are hot bodies, big tits, nice ass and pillow talk. It's all good. But you have forgotten one thing. You have more money in your pocket than the people around you will see in years and lifetimes. That much money is a drug. People get hooked on drugs after one use. Realize people will do anything to keep up the high. You have just become the pusher of the most powerful of narcotics-big money. You have just given status, power and an addiction to an unsuspecting victim. Do you know entire villages celebrate somebody with a lifeline to the US or England? They cannot brag enough about it. Your number, email is the lifeline and is subject to relentless use. Anything will be said to you to continue the high. All their friends will see the life change. If its lost they will be silently judged as stupid that they could not hold on to it.

When I go to K1, all heads turn my way. Am Black, but can't hide the American. You need to be aware, and very careful of that kind of power and money in a developing and corrupt country. You walk a fine line. I wish I could post the pic of the chic I fell for. She was not a ho, as previously mentioned by my so-called "brother". That hurt. I have navigated many hookers in Kenya without losing myself. But the lady is the father of an MP, very, very beautiful. She was so beautiful she didn't know it and manipulated by jealous Kenyans that saw she was a village girl that did not know shit from shinola. I had to teach her how to use a shower. If you want to know if she is a real ho vs a true village girl, point her towards the shower. If there is a flood in the toilet afterward, she probably is not a seasoned ho. Despite you falling for her innocence, she will be manipulated by other Kenyans, because she now has money and power if she is young, but does not know how to handle it. She will seek advice, and they will give her the advice to benefit themselves with her. Fuck your relationship, we need to get paid! She will listen to them, and not you.

If she is older and smarter she will not tell anybody, but that means you are probably number 3 or 4 on the list and she is hot and sexy and has a steady income. I deviated from my original plan of getting laid and having fun. Just keep to the plan. OK, am done, just don't be a victim.Spot on! You have to be in charge at ALL times! Having said that check out Rwanda. Totally unspoiled chicas very humble and smart! I ll probably shift Ops to Rwanda soon.

Neddy.

[Amadeuss]

My point is that you can't bring your first world culture and custom into the developing world. We, as men from countries where women have power, education, and money are used to women being with you because they choose to be with you, you really have no say in the matter. You have been chosen to some extent by the chic because she is at a point where she is ready to settle down, and your suitable for some reason or other, while she really wants to fuck her fantasy, she knows she has security with your lame ass. All the while, they have gained power in society, and impressed the entire "virtuous mother and wife facade, and that you won't be happy in your life without a happy wife. You are really just her accessory, no longer head of household, and bombarded with adverts from that fucking 65 inch LCD in the corner that says your an incompetent asshole in your own home that can't change a lightbulb. These adverts coming from female executives at the marketing agency. I don't know what they have on the tele in Britain and Aus, but this is what I must endure in the US. I am a man, therefore, I am the enemy. Me too movement in full momentum.

Absolutely right!

Tell the lady: If you "me too", but I fuck you.

[Triple Darknes]

I got bitten by the travel bug. An impending early retirement and prices in the US being completely out of control is pushing me out.

I'll be in Nai for a couple of days starting on on the 23rd of July then do a coastal run to Mombassa then hitting Dar. Any last minute advice is welcome, but RTFF forum (and actually going) has been key. I've pipelined a few girls from my last trip but I'm focusing on nonpro or semi pros. I don't plan on using any dating apps to meet chicks because in my expeirence although there are non pros there like Naked Gunz says her friends will tell her to try to get money out of you. I gave a legit what's app number and got asked for WU. I quickly blocked the number. The best experiences in my limited traveling experience is literally talking to women in customer service jobs.

Because I liked talking to them for general intel (not chicas) I'm going to try the massage place where the chick told me that no extras were available. I still find it hard to believe that in a place with as much corruption as Kenya especially in an out of the way area like Nairobi West that extras weren't on the menu, I didn't see one non Black person at the hotel. The chick I got a handjob from did have a boyfriend who worked there but the one that who told me that they didn't do extras doesn't have a man. Either way I'll hang out with them because they're cool just to talk to.

The lack of a good extras massage parlour is a big downside to me. I'm not expecting expert nuru massages, I'm hoping that a MP would provide a good slow BJ. That's another thing western style BJ's maybe I'll have to train one myself.

[AfAsia]

I got bitten by the travel bug. An impending early retirement and prices in the US being completely out of control is pushing me out.

I'll be in Nai for a couple of days starting on on the 23rd of July then do a coastal run to Mombassa then hitting Dar. Any last minute advice is welcome, but RTFF forum (and actually going) has been keyYeah. If I were you TIME is your friend, I would not make any plans. I would arrive, suss the place out and take it slow using the big head. Making plans to meet anybody is going to open you up to money pressure from these chicks you met last trip. They will go to work on you. Your best friend is TIME and PATIENCE. This way you can adopt a plan, keeping things in check, expenses down and gain some experience first.

[XXL]

Yeah. If I were you TIME is your friend, I would not make any plans. I would arrive, suss the place out and take it slow using the big head. Making plans to meet anybody is going to open you up to money pressure from these chicks you met last trip. They will go to work on you. Your best friend is TIME and PATIENCE. This way you can adopt a plan, keeping things in check, expenses down and gain some experience first.Rule for black Africa: never have girls waiting for you when you land. Such girls will think they have a discoverer right over you. You'll waste days and money getting rid of them. The 1st disco you'll visit on your 1st night will show you 10 times more girls 10 times better-looking than the pre-booked ones.

[Triple Darknes]

Rule for black Africa: never have girls waiting for you when you land. Such girls will think they have a discoverer right over you. You'll waste days and money getting rid of them. The 1st disco you'll visit on your 1st night will show you 10 times more girls 10 times better-looking than the pre-booked ones.I'm learning. There's a lot of bad information out there. Naughty Nomad actually suggests using dating apps 2 weeks in advance. I know now that will get you a sticky girl. The concept of dating doesn't seem to compute, They think it means stay with them and only them the entirety of your trip. This is a recon trip for me, I've read good things about Mombassa on here. Although I'm a big city guy. I'm leery of defined red light districts but on the other hand I like comfort I'm a budget traveler but I'm not really trying to go to the hinterlands to save 5 bucks on pussy. Besides girls in rural areas are even more sticky than city girls. Country girls may not see another monger for a long time.

[Mushamisi]

Yet another one falling in love with a hooker. Yawn.

My friend, the once in a lifetime paid wild sex ride rarely gets better on repeat, quite the opposite. Staying in her apartment will ensure things go downhill that much faster. This should probably be listed as the First Universal Law of Mongering to save poor souls.

Read our brother Naked Gunz's recent posts on relevant subject.My first time to Kenyan I went with a nurse I had found though Afro introductions and chatted up for a month before arrival. I soon learnt that was a fuck up. I stayed at her "house" in some village while they were still building the complex. Thankfully I skipped to Mombasa same trip and kept my head straight. I ghosted her.

[Neddy69]

I'm learning. There's a lot of bad information out there. Naughty Nomad actually suggests using dating apps 2 weeks in advance. I know now that will get you a sticky girl. The concept of dating doesn't seem to compute, They think it means stay with them and only them the entirety of your trip. This is a recon trip for me, I've read good things about Mombassa on here. Although I'm a big city guy. I'm leery of defined red light districts but on the other hand I like comfort I'm a budget traveler but I'm not really trying to go to the hinterlands to save 5 bucks on pussy. Besides girls in rural areas are even more sticky than city girls. Country girls may not see another monger for a long time.Forget naughty nomad. That guy's a tourist. In his funny pirate outfit. How much he spends in a country. A couple of days. Admittedly he has guts. Being the first tourist flying into Mogadishu. But to get the lay of the land I spend no less than a month incountry. I don't pipeline via dating apps. For example in Gambia totally useless strategy. The girls check in every couple of months. You can literally talk to ANY girl on the street and more often than not it will translate into date and subsequent lay in all subsaharan african countries. And don't forget. You are on top of the food chain. I totally agree with XXL. Never have a chica waiting. Might be hard to get rid of unless you have time constraints. Doesn't apply to me. I am time millionaire and have sufficient funds.

Neddy.

Suffering 2 more months in Disneyland.

[Mohit1692]

Was in Nairobi last week. Went to Black Diamond. Girls are friendly there. Took one girl to a nearby hotel. Cost me 5000 shillings for the girl and 4000 for the hotel. Dancing with her at the bar and then going to a nearby hotel after was good fun.

[Member #4589]

Forget naughty nomad. That guy's a tourist. In his funny pirate outfit. How much he spends in a country. A couple of days. Admittedly he has guts. Being the first tourist flying into Mogadishu. But to get the lay of the land I spend no less than a month incountry. I don't pipeline via dating apps. For example in Gambia totally useless strategy. The girls check in every couple of months. You can literally talk to ANY girl on the street and more often than not it will translate into date and subsequent lay in all subsaharan african countries. And don't forget. You are on top of the food chain. I totally agree with XXL. Never have a chica waiting. Might be hard to get rid of unless you have time constraints. Doesn't apply to me. I am time millionaire and have sufficient funds.

Neddy.

Suffering 2 more months in Disneyland.I totally agree with what has been said. There really is no reason to have a girl waiting on you before you arrive. Best bet is to go to a popular nightclub and work from there.

That strategy hasn't failed me in Accra, Lagos, Nairobi or Jozi.

The only time I could ever see one wanting to set up a something prior to arrival would be the case if the girl has a very niche body.

Example: there's a girl in Nigeria on Instagram I follow. She had like 40 EE boobs but a very slim body. Her body type was harder for me to see on my day to day interactions with other ladies. I set up a meet with her beforehand because I had at the time a thing for huge boobs on a small figure.

Outside of that, I don't recommend the practice.

[Triple Darknes]

Forget naughty nomad. That guy's a tourist. In his funny pirate outfit. How much he spends in a country. A couple of days. Admittedly he has guts. Being the first tourist flying into Mogadishu. But to get the lay of the land I spend no less than a month incountry. I don't pipeline via dating apps. For example in Gambia totally useless strategy. The girls check in every couple of months. You can literally talk to ANY girl on the street and more often than not it will translate into date and subsequent lay in all subsaharan african countries. And don't forget. You are on top of the food chain. I totally agree with XXL. Never have a chica waiting. Might be hard to get rid of unless you have time constraints. Doesn't apply to me. I am time millionaire and have sufficient funds.

Neddy.

Suffering 2 more months in Disneyland.I'm in Kenya right now. I'm surprised it's this cold. It's not cold compared to American winter but it's cooler here than it is at my house on the states.

I agree that you need time. I'm on a no social media challenge and day game works better than night game.

[Naked Gunz]

I'm in Kenya right now. I'm surprised it's this cold. It's not cold compared to American winter but it's cooler here than it is at my house on the states. I agree that you need time. I'm on a no social media challenge and day game works better than night game.You got thrown off guard because you're used to Northern Hemisphere July / August, which is freaking hot. I think you have not are (all) TFF my friend. I'm sure there are a few mentions of Jul / Aug temps. You go from DXB to NBO and get the surprise of your life. My first AIRBNB was so full of holes it's like I was outside, and they had one piece of shit space heater I literally sat on day and night. I had to constantly fuck and drink to stay warm-the assholes already had my money. On top of that, they said nothing about the pre-pay electricity, the same electricity that they had not paid! "Why are everybody's lights on but mine"?

To each his own on Social media, I personally like an advanced line-up. Saves on hunting time, more time for pumping. I also like to find my body type (TNA grande) pre-arrival and establish a rapport. Just my thing-you do you.

[Triple Darknes]

You got thrown off guard because you're used to Northern Hemisphere July / August, which is freaking hot. I think you have not are (all) TFF my friend. I'm sure there are a few mentions of Jul / Aug temps. You go from DXB to NBO and get the surprise of your life. My first AIRBNB was so full of holes it's like I was outside, and they had one piece of shit space heater I literally sat on day and night. I had to constantly fuck and drink to stay warm-the assholes already had my money. On top of that, they said nothing about the pre-pay electricity, the same electricity that they had not paid! "Why are everybody's lights on but mine"?

To each his own on Social media, I personally like an advanced line-up. Saves on hunting time, more time for pumping. I also like to find my body type (TNA grande) pre-arrival and establish a rapport. Just my thing-you do you.Yeah that's what it is the equator I forgot it was hot as hell in the states and light jacket weather here. Day game worked OK. But yes dating apps are quicker. That being said dating apps attracts savvy semi pros.

[Naked Gunz]

Day game worked OK. But yes dating apps are quicker. That being said dating apps attracts savvy semi-pros.Saavy? Your American! You cannot be outsmarted unless your newbie, or letting your guard down.

I like a challenge. I consider day game: seeing a super hot chic on the street in town walking down the road, and minding her own business, as my prey. I try to stop her, and cajole contact info, a later drink- SOMETHING-from the woman. It is probably easier for mzungu, but has worked very few times for me in Nairobi. Women are too focused, scared, whatever, of a stranger approaching them in the street-unless your mzungu-tsk! Hell, that's where the hot non-pros are though! The key is to get them when they are stopped! Stopped squeezing melons in the store, stopped reading a paper, but stopped in place. That's when you pounce and get her attention. Some guys say I got the waitress, the girl in the store, whatever- she was stopped in place! So challenge yourself to get what you want.

Enjoy your time in Nai- are you still considering Africa retirement? My posts reflect a complete reversal, hehe! Don't forget to post a report on your stay, Kenya forum needs life support.

[Triple Darknes]

Saavy? Your American! You cannot be outsmarted unless your newbie, or letting your guard down.

I like a challenge. I consider day game: seeing a super hot chic on the street in town walking down the road, and minding her own business, as my prey. I try to stop her, and cajole contact info, a later drink- SOMETHING-from the woman. It is probably easier for mzungu, but has worked very few times for me in Nairobi. Women are too focused, scared, whatever, of a stranger approaching them in the street-unless your mzungu-tsk! Hell, that's where the hot non-pros are though! The key is to get them when they are stopped! Stopped squeezing melons in the store, stopped reading a paper, but stopped in place. That's when you pounce and get her attention. Some guys say I got the waitress, the girl in the store, whatever- she was stopped in place! So challenge yourself to get what you want.

Enjoy your time in Nai- are you still considering Africa retirement? My posts reflect a complete reversal, hehe! Don't forget to post a report on your stay, Kenya forum needs life support.I am a noob and I'm one of those mongers chicks dream about. If the chick is super hot and the price isn't absolutely outrageous I'll pay. I felt a ways when it tools 6 hours in country to secure pussy with no phone or dating app support. I have stuck gold using day game in Nai. But like you I've decided against Kenya for retirement. It's looking like Dar now. This is like little Ghana, it's crawling with proBlack returnees.

[Triple Darknes]

Saavy? Your American! You cannot be outsmarted unless your newbie, or letting your guard down.

I like a challenge. I consider day game: seeing a super hot chic on the street in town walking down the road, and minding her own business, as my prey. I try to stop her, and cajole contact info, a later drink- SOMETHING-from the woman. It is probably easier for mzungu, but has worked very few times for me in Nairobi. Women are too focused, scared, whatever, of a stranger approaching them in the street-unless your mzungu-tsk! Hell, that's where the hot non-pros are though! The key is to get them when they are stopped! Stopped squeezing melons in the store, stopped reading a paper, but stopped in place. That's when you pounce and get her attention. Some guys say I got the waitress, the girl in the store, whatever- she was stopped in place! So challenge yourself to get what you want.

Enjoy your time in Nai- are you still considering Africa retirement? My posts reflect a complete reversal, hehe! Don't forget to post a report on your stay, Kenya forum needs life support.What I mean about savvy WG is chicks that know how to handle noob mongers. Guys who've been mongering for years can relax and make their selections A noob who's a total slave to his dick we"ll let the chick select the monger if she's hot enough. That's why I specially avoided notorious red light countries for this reason.

[Naked Gunz]

I am a noob and I'm one of those mongers chicks dream about. If the chick is super hot and the price isn't absolutely outrageous I'll pay. I felt a ways when it tools 6 hours in country to secure pussy with no phone or dating app support. I have stuck gold using day game in Nai. But like you I've decided against Kenya for retirement. It's looking like Dar now. This is like little Ghana, it's crawling with proBlack returnees.Exactly the reason I would also reconsider any African retirement. It's your life, and I have never been to Dar to judge the place, but you just said you're a newbie. For that, and many more reasons, don't jump too soon. I would be hanging out in Dar more often, so you can evaluate the place for that major decision-which deserves at least a year of continuous occupancy before being made.

I've had a lot of time to reflect on what happened with me after getting hung up on an African chic. I'm sure she really meant well (sometimes) but the cultural differences are too much to overcome sometimes. Another MAJOR issue with being a foreign man with a younger woman in her country is that while trying to maintain the dominant role in the relationship, that role will be compromised by the language difference, which affects almost everything you try to accomplish. Examples: She always has to translate for you. Store clerks won't even talk to you, but her. You will probably tip too much while out, which also screws up the dynamics. You don't know when to bribe and when not to bribe. You, having to be saved by her will diminish your role and give her too much power. Only an older, loving, mature woman, and not a lying, out-for-herself chic will truly have your back. Nines times out of ten the hot piece of ass won't have your back.

I am considering my initial choice-Philippines. American friendly, English speaking, decent living conditions, strongarm president killing and jailing all the druggies / thieves, and TNA everywhere. I don't even know what the hell I was thinking putting Kenya on the list. I would really, really, think long and hard about your retirement.

[Triple Darknes]

Exactly the reason I would also reconsider any African retirement. It's your life, and I have never been to Dar to judge the place, but you just said you're a newbie. For that, and many more reasons, don't jump too soon. I would be hanging out in Dar more often, so you can evaluate the place for that major decision-which deserves at least a year of continuous occupancy before being made.

I've had a lot of time to reflect on what happened with me after getting hung up on an African chic. I'm sure she really meant well (sometimes) but the cultural differences are too much to overcome sometimes. Another MAJOR issue with being a foreign man with a younger woman in her country is that while trying to maintain the dominant role in the relationship, that role will be compromised by the language difference, which affects almost everything you try to accomplish. Examples: She always has to translate for you. Store clerks won't even talk to you, but her..You're right a Canadian lady told me to go the air bob route for at least six months before I make a decision. I'm in one now first time ever for me. I paid the first night and will get a cash discount for the rest of my stay. I guess I was biased against the Philippines because I grew up in a very racially diverse area so I knew Filipinos and Dominicans so I wasn't all that impressed. When J-Lo was dating diddy I didn't see what the big deal was. What I was impressed by was the corn fed big assed country girls in the south.

The thing is nobody randomly comes to Africa so there's almost no information. I don't know how willing you and a couple other mongers / expats to guide a noob but it would be worth paying for a membership if it meant I could buy a clue with h people with vast experience. I too am totally dependent on educated girls. Juggling hoes bringing them to the spot I sleep. It's been a mess. The other day I had to pay two girls to go away while I was with another. The reason this happened was because of the extreme CP time of the girls so I assumed they flaked. I'm seriously considering a not so hot educated girl in the rotation simply because she's a freebie that isn't impressed by my money. But then I remember your story about the so called unicorn Kenyan girl. Is the answer always find 'me fuck 'them and flee?

[Mombie75]

I am in my mid 40's and I used to have a job where I could spend 6 months of the year in Kenya, albeit Mombasa not Nairobi. I know a lot of ex pats that have retired there. There is one golden rule if you retire to Kenya and want it to be peaceful and stress free, do not get involved with the locals. What I mean by this is keep yourself to yourself for the majority part and do not ever keep girls for repeated fun, after a few meets move on. It does work but too many try keep one for themselves and it will 99% go pear shaped.

[Naked Gunz]

I guess I was biased against the Philippines because I grew up in a very racially diverse area so I knew Filipinos and Dominicans so I wasn't all that impressed.

The thing is nobody randomly comes to Africa so there's almost no information. I don't know how willing you and a couple other mongers / expats to guide a noob but it would be worth paying for a membership if it meant I could buy a clue with h people with vast experience. I too am totally dependent on educated girls. Juggling hoes bringing them to the spot I sleep. It's been a mess. The other day I had to pay two girls to go away while I was with another. The reason this happened was because of the extreme CP time of the girls so I assumed they flaked. I'm seriously considering a not so hot educated girl in the rotation simply because she's a freebie that isn't impressed by my money. But then I remember your story about the so-called unicorn Kenyan girl. Is the answer always find 'me fuck 'them and flee?You knew Dominicans / Pinoys in your country, not their country, big difference. Actually, your also generalizing people as a whole, which is also misleading. I can only generalize Kenyan women here, which are all truly fucked up, hehe! Wow, bro! You not just newbie in Kenya, your a newbie in life! Nothing wrong with that though, your learning as you go, which can be expensive lessons. I'm practicing day trading, and get kicked in the ass daily for not being a newbie! I've seen your Tanzania posts, you ain't that newbie, so don't say that. You paid the WG, so they caused no problems for you- not a newbie move. Even US Secret Service was too dumb to do that Colombia.

Just remember most of your contacts are living in Eastlands, where it's much cheaper. If she is coming from Eastlands, she doesn't know you, so she will move slowly, then traffic will slow her down, and she has to figure out where you are- no woman can do this anyway! Meet her in a neutral setting before she knows where you live. If she lives just North, or West of town she has much more going for her or she lives with people. Try to confirm where she lives. That's why I also get my chics online before I hit the ground. I pick their brain about who, what, when and where, so am not wasting time trying to know who I'm dealing with after I get there. If there is a good rapport, it's all good upon arrival. I saw about three posts saying that's the wrong move. You have to use your own strategy when it comes to logistics! I only had one woman out of 50+ try to meet me on time.

I can't recall the unicorn, but people will answer all your questions, and you have to read the forum. There are some hard chargers, past and current, in the Kenya forum. Some doing things like braving late night walks on River Rd. (WTF!) and getting pussy in Sabina Joy, which is undergoing renovation I hear! So don't feel alone. I guess the answer is don't lead the non-pro chics on to think there is more. I have plenty of contacts I can call, and when I told them I was "exclusive", all were cool and said OK. My buddy had one regular woman buying him clothes when we when there. What is she feeling now that he's fucked her and gone? He was married and just having fun. Treat the pros like pros, semi-pro with a smile and payment, and pay non-pro like a lady so she doesn't feel like a ho. There is no trick to all this. I think I've written all this here for the fifty-eleventh time-DUH! Enjoy bro!


I am in my mid 40's and I used to have a job where I could spend 6 months of the year in Kenya, albeit Mombasa not Nairobi. I know a lot of ex pats that have retired there. There is one golden rule if you retire to Kenya and want it to be peaceful and stress free, do not get involved with the locals. What I mean by this is keep yourself to yourself for the majority part and do not ever keep girls for repeated fun, after a few meets move on. It does work but too many try keep one for themselves and it will 99% go pear shaped.Well, I have the same type of job, and I don't want to put myself in a prison by not freely associating myself with the locals to some degree. Sure, you don't want to be so open that you will be hit up constantly for help. I can only think of my American friend on the coast that retired there and has been for many, many years there. His personality is open, but if you try to get too close in the wrong way he will let you know in a heartbeat to not go there. Women that try to leave a toothbrush are told to take their shit and go. He gets locals for maybe 600 shillings. He has even shut ME down for asking too many questions, hehe! He knows the game and plays it well. Asian diet and environment are pristine. One look at thirty-something women Asian women on Tinder confirms this. I'm stuck in the states waiting for work documentation and I don't have a home here-am in a hotel. I have had a marching band living in the room above me for a few days, and I don't have to look to see who it is. The heavy walking and constant movement tells me it's a fat biatch that can't seem to sit the fuck down for 5 straight minutes in a small hotel room.

Can you blame a man for wanting to keep some good shit close? Only the culture / vulture gets in the way. Culture differences and vultures that tell her lets pick the bones! When you say pear shape I assume you mean fat-true? I looked in the newspaper once and confirmed what I thought, and it was that the obituaries were full of Kenyans dying in their fifties. Shitty air, food, and the environment are killing them. I once grilled some butcher meat in Nakuru and it looked and smelled great but was so chewy and gamey I could barely eat the shit. I really could not tell you what the meat was, but I know not dog meat at least. After about 15 Kenya visits, and some for as much as a month, I know now, and really new inside then, it ain't for me to live.

[Triple Darknes]

I am in my mid 40's and I used to have a job where I could spend 6 months of the year in Kenya, albeit Mombasa not Nairobi. I know a lot of ex pats that have retired there. There is one golden rule if you retire to Kenya and want it to be peaceful and stress free, do not get involved with the locals. What I mean by this is keep yourself to yourself for the majority part and do not ever keep girls for repeated fun, after a few meets move on. It does work but too many try keep one for themselves and it will 99% go pear shaped.Why is that? I've met a couple Mzungu local women marriages in TZ? Why does Kenyan relationships go pear shaped? I'm not getting married but nor am I moving to Kenyan per se but what is about Kenya that makes this unfeasible? Is it a cultural thing? I will say that Kenyans understand mongers and mongering. I've said I'm a slave to my dick and two Kenyan women unconvinced me to fuck them with an excellent double blow job. And I thought that African women weren't good at head.

[Member #4563]

IThere is one golden rule if you retire to Kenya and want it to be peaceful and stress free, do not get involved with the locals.Its a good start but as an 4 years expat in Mombasa I can tell you about the most important golden rule for Kenya retirements. The rule is that you don't retire in Kenya if you are less than 70 years old and not not broke.

If you come for a month then stay away from them change girl every meeting before they hit you with scam, lies and manipulation. Sudden death, exotic disease boda boda crash its just a start in your paradise retirement. Paper take it all, in real life you will crawl back to other country faster than a rat.

[Triple Darknes]

You knew Dominicans / Pinoys in your country, not their country, big difference. Actually, your also generalizing people as a whole, which is also misleading. I can only generalize Kenyan women here, which are all truly fucked up, hehe! Wow, bro! You not just newbie in Kenya, your a newbie in life! Nothing wrong with that though, your learning as you go, which can be expensive lessons. I'm practicing day trading, and get kicked in the ass daily for not being a newbie! I've seen your Tanzania posts, you ain't that newbie, so don't say that. You paid the WG, so they caused no problems for you- not a newbie move. Even US Secret Service was too dumb to do that Colombia.

Just remember most of your contacts are living in Eastlands, where it's much cheaper. If she is coming from Eastlands, she doesn't know you, so she will move slowly, then traffic will slow her down, and she has to figure out where you are- no woman can do this anyway! Meet her in a neutral setting before she knows where you live. If she lives just North, or West of town she has much more going for her or she lives with people. Try to confirm where she lives. That's why I also get my chics online before I hit the ground. I pick their brain about who, what, when and where, so am not wasting time trying to know who I'm dealing with after I get there. If there is a good rapport, it's all good upon arrival. I saw about three posts saying that's the wrong move. You have to use your own strategy when it comes to logistics! I only had one woman out of 50+ try to meet me on time..You forgot about that politicians daughter you were fucking with? That's cold. I remember you talking about giving up the game for her.

But yeah as far as mongering you probably forgot more than I know about the game and Africa in general. I don't understand people with security clearances they can be revoked for any and no reason I'm not arguing with a hooker over 20 fucking dollars. You'll pay the girl or May security / police or management even more to keep you ass out of a sling.

Besides it's unethical to not pay if it's your fault. Again at the end of the day to me they're not little Black fucking machines to me they're people. I don't understand flying thousands of miles for pussy paying thousands of dollars on flights and terrible so called four star hotels and cheating out on the pussy. I don't want to pay more than market rates but I'm not trying to be inconvenienced by being threatened with the possibility of jail in some African country over a sawbuck. But that's just me.

[Naked Gunz]

But yeah as far as mongering you probably forgot more than I know about the game and Africa in general. It appears so.


You forgot about that politicians daughter you were fucking with? That's cold. I remember you talking about giving up the game for her.I would also suggest reading further back to garnish information and digest it, and give considerable thought into how you would apply others past experiences into your strategy in negotiating this developing nation and its citizens-RTFF. Read this post again and tell me how I"M being cold: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2187684&viewfull=1#post2187684.

Again, I would really, really, really take much time into your retirement decision to East Africa. Ghana is much easier, but I'm in the Philippines, and its so much beta! Also, as one man of color to another, make sure you observe the jealousy of your servers, hotel employees, and just regular interaction on a daily basis towards you Black man from the people in countries of color. I've seen it in Jamaica, DR and Kenya. Surprisingly, non-professional places will take service down a notch because your not white. I can't see Tanzania being much better brah. Use your mind and your eyes to see reality.

[Triple Darknes]

It appears so.

I would also suggest reading further back to garnish information and digest it, and give considerable thought into how you would apply others past experiences into your strategy in negotiating this developing nation and its citizens-RTFF. Read this post again and tell me how I"M being cold: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2187684&viewfull=1#post2187684.

Again, I would really, really, really take much time into your retirement decision to East Africa. Ghana is much easier, but I'm in the Philippines, and its so much beta! Also, as one man of color to another, make sure you observe the jealousy of your servers, hotel employees, and just regular interaction on a daily basis towards you Black man from the people in countries of color. I've seen it in Jamaica, DR and Kenya. Surprisingly, non-professional places will take service down a notch because your not white. I can't see Tanzania being much better brah. Use your mind and your eyes to see reality.Don't take offense on anything I say yes this is a slow forum compared to other Forums like DR etc. I legit never thought of the possibility of racism / jealously toward people of color. That would be doubly odd in Jamaica because every Jamaican knows someone who migrated and now they are the ones in the restaurant getting shitty service. LOL.

Regarding the Philippines, I don't want to get too personal but I'd be surviving off of an E-8 retirement. Jamaica is not really cheap and you have to deal with violence, hurricanes and earthquakes. The Philippines has the same issues, In fact I know a pinoy guy at my job who was looking at condos starting at 30 K. I know I must RTFF in the Philippines but do you experience racism in the Philippines? I know there's racism everywhere and you can't escape it but I'll be damned if I live somewhere and people are looking down on me because of the way that I look.

I will read the Philippines forum and check out the youtube videos of mongers who spend a significant time there and finally take a trip to see it for myself. As far a TZ is concerned I liked the people and the women but it's a funny mongering country, meaning they kinda aren't used to mongers, You'll get hoes that will hop on your dick and be sticky but if you want to upgrade into non pro girls You might end up actually dating them and not fucking like in america. In Kenya I never dated a chick who accepted the date and didn't fuck whether for free or a fee. I did get freebies in TZ from non pro but it was rare enough for me to not like it. Other than that people where way friendlier in TZ.

One final point. I get that it seems like I'm asking rather stupid questions on here but I'm willing to ask the questions that others won't Most of the mongers in this section have either lived here and received a nice salary to do so, or spent very long vacays here and are experienced traveling mongers. It's different for a dude with limited experience mongering period and dealt with american women pro and no pro. American hoes want your social security number and ID for a dinner date and if you cum in five minutes the date is over and she has a long list of shit she doesn't do. Then you come to Africa and get super GFE compared to america. It might fuck with you. I went to Kenya and met a girl working at a cell phone shop and she lost her job. I didn't get to fuck her on my first trip and almost didn't on my second trip but we linked and we fucked "for free" She didn't ask for money but since I was literally flying back to america I gave her 5000 kes. Was that a mistake? Probably but I ain't jaded enough to think that at that point she's been running game the whole time for me to end up offering her half her months rent.

There's a lot of Americans going to Africa on Safari and there's a lot of African-Americans going "back to their roots" some of them are going to fall into some pussy and they're going to have the same questions that I had. One when they read the white guys fucking all these girls for free is it strategy on the girls part or are they lying? And do Africans like African-Americans? At the end of the day everyone wants to monger in peace, go to eastern Europe looking for cut rate strange as a Black man and you might get killed. So I heard.

[Neddy69]

Don't take offense on anything I say yes this is a slow forum compared to other Forums like DR etc. I legit never thought of the possibility of racism / jealously toward people of color. That would be doubly odd in Jamaica because every Jamaican knows someone who migrated and now they are the ones in the restaurant getting shitty service. LOL.

Regarding the Philippines, I don't want to get too personal but I'd be surviving off of an E-8 retirement. Jamaica is not really cheap and you have to deal with violence, hurricanes and earthquakes. The Philippines has the same issues, In fact I know a pinoy guy at my job who was looking at condos starting at 30 K. I know I must RTFF in the Philippines but do you experience racism in the Philippines? I know there's racism everywhere and you can't escape it but I'll be damned if I live somewhere and people are looking down on me because of the way that I look.

I will read the Philippines forum and check out the youtube videos of mongers who spend a significant time there and finally take a trip to see it for myself. As far a TZ is concerned I liked the people and the women but it's a funny mongering country, meaning they kinda aren't used to mongers, You'll get hoes that will hop on your dick and be sticky but if you want to upgrade into non pro girls You might end up actually dating them and not fucking like in america. In Kenya I never dated a chick who accepted the date and didn't fuck whether for free or a fee. I did get freebies in TZ from non pro but it was rare enough for me to not like it. Other than that people where way friendlier in TZ.

One final point. I get that it seems like I'm asking rather stupid questions on here but I'm willing to ask the questions that others won't Most of the mongers in this section have either lived here and received a nice salary to do so, or spent very long vacays here and are experienced traveling mongers. It's different for a dude with limited experience mongering period and dealt with american women pro and no pro. American hoes want your social security number and ID for a dinner date and if you cum in five minutes the date is over and she has a long list of shit she doesn't do. Then you come to Africa and get super GFE compared to america. It might fuck with you. I went to Kenya and met a girl working at a cell phone shop and she lost her job. I didn't get to fuck her on my first trip and almost didn't on my second trip but we linked and we fucked "for free" She didn't ask for money but since I was literally flying back to america I gave her 5000 kes. Was that a mistake? Probably but I ain't jaded enough to think that at that point she's been running game the whole time for me to end up offering her half her months rent.

There's a lot of Americans going to Africa on Safari and there's a lot of African-Americans going "back to their roots" some of them are going to fall into some pussy and they're going to have the same questions that I had. One when they read the white guys fucking all these girls for free is it strategy on the girls part or are they lying? And do Africans like African-Americans? At the end of the day everyone wants to monger in peace, go to eastern Europe looking for cut rate strange as a Black man and you might get killed. So I heard.First of all there is NO lack of pussy in ANY subsaharan country. I never considered Asia. Thailand and Philippines are past their shelf life. Prices are ruined. Cambo and Vietnam. Mixed bag. Myanmar??

Africa. My personal hotspots for living are. The Gambia right now. Close second Rwanda. Kenya well. A soft spot in my heart. But. Tanzania has a past of socialist policies turned capitalist. Is TZ the better Kenia? Countries on my short list are also Sierra Leone Nigeria and Angola to be surveyed. Eastward. Uganda sweet and lovely people. One of my favourites. Generally I am not do fond of CFA countries. I always look at soft currencies versus USD and EUR. And lastly Madagascar and Ethiopia. In the end it will be a mix. Choose 2 countries. Avoids problem with clingy chicas and almost no country has all year round good climate. What I avoid are all South African countries. High HIV prevalence. And too developed / expensive pussy. So that's my take on retirement hotspots. Africa is the future. Asia is squeezed out. IMHO.

Neddy.

Back in Paradise in less than 60 days.
And NEVER EVER BUY property or get MARRIED !

[Triple Darknes]

First of all there is NO lack of pussy in ANY subsaharan country. I never considered Asia. Thailand and Philippines are past their shelf life. Prices are ruined. Cambo and Vietnam. Mixed bag. Myanmar??

Africa. My personal hotspots for living are. The Gambia right now. Close second Rwanda. Kenya well. A soft spot in my heart. But. Tanzania has a past of socialist policies turned capitalist. Is TZ the better Kenia? Countries on my short list are also Sierra Leone Nigeria and Angola to be surveyed. Eastward. Uganda sweet and lovely people. One of my favourites. Generally I am not do fond of CFA countries. I always look at soft currencies versus USD and EUR. And lastly Madagascar and Ethiopia. In the end it will be a mix. Choose 2 countries. Avoids problem with clingy chicas and almost no country has all year round good climate. What I avoid are all South African countries. High HIV prevalence. And too developed / expensive pussy. So that's my take on retirement hotspots. Africa is the future. Asia is squeezed out. IMHO.You know what I like all women I've dated Philippines and I've been to Asian massage parlors (which is why I'm such a fan of Massage parlor sex) but If I ended up in the Philippines I wouldn't want to travel to Africa or anyplace for sex but at the same time if I had no access to Black pussy I'd be sad. I could always travel back to the states and scratch my itch there but although I'm hearing Gunz on Philippines I have to keep in mind that I do prefer Black women. I have relatives in the UK I could move there but the insane prices for everything trumps the free pussy I would get there. And lets not even talk about the taxes, That was the reason why we revolted. LOL.

When I was in Kenya I met a budding filmmaker from the Gambia and he told me that it wasn't the hellhole that I thought it was he urged me to take a visit. I could imagine the dirt cheap prices for pussy there but all RTFF but I was kinda put off by the infrastructure of Tanzania, I'm not sure I could deal with massive power cuts or even extreme poverty Can you give me a general idea of what it's like?

I'm kinda surprised that you haven't visited TZ I mean Dar has a beach, but what I will say about it is that while I don't doubt Vanilla and Bashaa's stories about TZ it's different than Kenya. In Nairobi if you talk to a girl there's an instant understanding of what you want and they're very accomodating. They are Non pros but they understand that if they fuck you (at standard rates of 2 to 4 k) that they will have 2 to 4 k more than they had before. Other than Kenyan beauty parlour massage joints not fucking generally speaking she's interested. A Dar non pro might go on a date with you and not put out like a regular date in the west with the idea that she'll fuck you later. On one hand you can't get mad because you didn't ask to fuck you asked her to hang out or show you around but one the other hand you're thinking "be at at!! You know I'm a tourist what did you think I wanted?

Neddy do African chicks fuck you because you're white or because you're "rich"? Because a causal reader of the Africa forum hears about all these freebies in Africa and think that it will be like that for them. You're like me a budget traveler, I noticed that you stayed at the Strand hotel in Nairobi west so it can't be that they think you're really rich. Or do you think freebies is more about experience, willingness to venture off the beaten path and time. The time that I spent in Africa has been two weeks tops per trip. I do want to explore the continent but with me being early retired on a small salary I won't have money or time. That being said I do have to visit west Africa. Like you Southern Africa is off the list for the same reason expense of pussy and too high an HIV rate for a guy that likes to fuck all night and has slipped up more than once when there were either no more condoms or not stopping a girl when she mounts me raw after a quality BBJ.

[Neddy69]

You know what I like all women I've dated Philippines and I've been to Asian massage parlors (which is why I'm such a fan of Massage parlor sex) but If I ended up in the Philippines I wouldn't want to travel to Africa or anyplace for sex but at the same time if I had no access to Black pussy I'd be sad. I could always travel back to the states and scratch my itch there but although I'm hearing Gunz on Philippines I have to keep in mind that I do prefer Black women. I have relatives in the UK I could move there but the insane prices for everything trumps the free pussy I would get there. And lets not even talk about the taxes, That was the reason why we revolted. LOL.

When I was in Kenya I met a budding filmmaker from the Gambia and he told me that it wasn't the hellhole that I thought it was he urged me to take a visit. I could imagine the dirt cheap prices for pussy there but all RTFF but I was kinda put off by the infrastructure of Tanzania, I'm not sure I could deal with massive power cuts or even extreme poverty Can you give me a general idea of what it's like?

I'm kinda surprised that you haven't visited TZ I mean Dar has a beach, but what I will say about it is that while I don't doubt Vanilla and Bashaa's stories about TZ it's different than Kenya. In Nairobi if you talk to a girl there's an instant understanding of what you want and they're very accomodating. They are Non pros but they understand that if they fuck you (at standard rates of 2 to 4 k) that they will have 2 to 4 k more than they had before. Other than Kenyan beauty parlour massage joints not fucking generally speaking she's interested. A Dar non pro might go on a date with you and not put out like a regular date in the west with the idea that she'll fuck you later. On one hand you can't get mad because you didn't ask to fuck you asked her to hang out or show you around but one the other hand you're thinking "be at at!! You know I'm a tourist what did you think I wanted?

Neddy do African chicks fuck you because you're white or because you're "rich"? Because a causal reader of the Africa forum hears about all these freebies in Africa and think that it will be like that for them. You're like me a budget traveler, I noticed that you stayed at the Strand hotel in Nairobi west so it can't be that they think you're really rich. Or do you think freebies is more about experience, willingness to venture off the beaten path and time. The time that I spent in Africa has been two weeks tops per trip. I do want to explore the continent but with me being early retired on a small salary I won't have money or time. That being said I do have to visit west Africa. Like you Southern Africa is off the list for the same reason expense of pussy and too high an HIV rate for a guy that likes to fuck all night and has slipped up more than once when there were either no more condoms or not stopping a girl when she mounts me raw after a quality BBJ.Read my posts in the Gambia Forum. There's all there is to say. Infrastructure is not that bad. Well. Asia would be much better in terms of Infrastructure. But little black pussy there. Well. I am perceived as foreigner to have more discretionary income and treat pussy generally nicer or so is the perception of African chicas. Some hope for a ticket to paradise. Many look for Sugar daddy financing. Being white has some advantages. Of course for the black chicas we are also exotic. Freebees. For me that's a myth. Very rare yes. But at least you pay for drinks and food. But in comparison I pay peanuts for pussy. And you tell me you are retired on a small salary. Well. What does small mean. In the Gambia you can survive on 500$ a month. I know plenty of britons on state pension which is 6500 pounds a year. and they can afford lodging food some beer and pussy. With a 1000$ a month you can splurge.

[NGong]

Read my posts in the Gambia Forum. There's all there is to say. Infrastructure is not that bad. Well. Asia would be much better in terms of Infrastructure. But little black pussy there. Well. I am perceived as foreigner to have more discretionary income and treat pussy generally nicer or so is the perception of African chicas. Some hope for a ticket to paradise. Many look for Sugar daddy financing. Being white has some advantages. Of course for the black chicas we are also exotic. Freebees. For me that's a myth. Very rare yes. But at least you pay for drinks and food. But in comparison I pay peanuts for pussy. And you tell me you are retired on a small salary. Well. What does small mean. In the Gambia you can survive on 500$ a month. I know plenty of britons on state pension which is 6500 pounds a year. and they can afford lodging food some beer and pussy. With a 1000$ a month you can splurge.Hello Neddy and Tripledarknes.

I am wondering or you are real know Kenya and the rest of Africa what Neddy tell. I am a muzungu and living all more than 10 years in Kenya also married with a Kenya lady (I am 69 and she is 58).

I have never problems because I respect her and she respect me. I am a hunter and go around Kenya. I live in the suburb of Nairobi.

The lesson what I have learned is be polite and respect the other side in a good way, and you get what you want special when you like me not hunt in the city but up country I have meet ladies of practical all tribes in Kenya and not spend a lot of money for fun but always give them the respect what they want even help them out of problems with school-fees and food.

When you are in a small village buy some fruits and a drink on the market and make a social talk and you will be surprised special when you are with a old Pajero like me to show that I am not a rich muzungu they will give you all the information what you want and going with you to the small hotel for a lunch of diner.

Special the single lady what have the shop on the street like to a company you and even offer you a better option for your need. (That is my experience) because very lady want to show that she have a muzungu friend and show you to her relatives but be straight and let them know that you are not willing to married.

Know also they are all will coming to Nairobi to look for a job and getting a free drive and some money is for them a big present. I do never take them to my place but drop them in town so that they can go to the relative or boy friend who lives all ready in Nairobi.

The most in the up country do not have money for this kind of travel because the payment for the daile job is 200- 300 Ksh for a day what means ther is no saving for any trip or they must have a contract with some body who will pay the travel.

So my friends I am retried and live a good and simple live without any difficulties here even my friend who was living in Kampala is now vacated to here because in Uganda where a lot of problems for him.

Greetings Ngong.

[Triple Darknes]

Hello Neddy and Tripledarknes.

I am wondering or you are real know Kenya and the rest of Africa what Neddy tell. I am a muzungu and living all more than 10 years in Kenya also married with a Kenya lady (I am 69 and she is 58).

I have never problems because I respect her and she respect me. I am a hunter and go around Kenya. I live in the suburb of Nairobi.

The lesson what I have learned is be polite and respect the other side in a good way, and you get what you want special when you like me not hunt in the city but up country I have meet ladies of practical all tribes in Kenya and not spend a lot of money for fun but always give them the respect what they want even help them out of problems with school-fees and food.

When you are in a small village buy some fruits and a drink on the market and make a social talk and you will be surprised special when you are with a old Pajero like me to show that I am not a rich muzungu they will give you all the information what you want and going with you to the small hotel for a lunch of diner.

Special the single lady what have the shop on the street like to a company you and even offer you a better option for your need. (That is my experience) because very lady want to show that she have a muzungu friend and show you to her relatives but be straight and let them know that you are not willing to married..What you're saying kinda describes what it's like in rural Jamaica. Same thing it wasn't about money spent in fact too much money would make you and her a target because of jealously and when it got back to the main GF / family they'd think that you were holding out on her / them. Getting smaddy fram farrin (a foreigner) was for bragging rights not because they expected to get rich off of you.

But yeah you couldn't do it close to home you didn't have the same "rights" as a local man who could have ten women living in the same town.

What trouble did your friend from Uganda get into?

[NGong]

What you're saying kinda describes what it's like in rural Jamaica. Same thing it wasn't about money spent in fact too much money would make you and her a target because of jealously and when it got back to the main GF / family they'd think that you were holding out on her / them. Getting smaddy fram farrin (a foreigner) was for bragging rights not because they expected to get rich off of you.

But yeah you couldn't do it close to home you didn't have the same "rights" as a local man who could have ten women living in the same town.

What trouble did your friend from Uganda get into?He got the wrong people and must run because they want to beat them up. He was targeting University girls and forgot that there always are more people who target them, special wealthy business men and high ranking government people.

He have now his lessons and know that you not must interfere and go in competition with that kin of people when you want to stay in the country any where in Africa.

The lesson is stay under the radar of that kind of people and play it safe so that you live safe and longer.

The most muzungu's think that they are untouchable because the most Africans play that they like them and for the family you are a status symbol, but do not underestimated what can be happened when they not have profit of you in one or another way.

That is also the reason that I hunt up country and make friends special with the chiefs and elders because I am for them a status symbol because they have a muzungu friend from abroad.

[ElephantBeer]

Or, are there new places to hookup?

It's been a few years since I did my research. Got sick and never made it. Now better and getting ready for a trip.

Black Diamond.

Casablanca.

Club Dolce.

Florida 2000.

Madhouse.

Simba Saloon.

Simmers.

Havana & Bacchu's Lounge.

Tacos.

Club Pango.

Red Tape.

What about the River Road area for knocking shops?

Hotels: looking for something comfortable and that won't land me in a taxi for hours each night (close to Westlands or Koinange?

10,000 - 15,000.

The Terminal Hotel.

Chester House.

Hotel Metro.

Central Park.

La Maison Royale.

Grand Holiday.

Another?

Thanks!

[Mombie75]

Or, are there new places to hookup?

It's been a few years since I did my research. Got sick and never made it. Now better and getting ready for a trip.

Black Diamond.

Casablanca.

Club Dolce.

Florida 2000.

Madhouse.

Simba Saloon.

Simmers.

Havana & Bacchu's Lounge.

Tacos.

Club Pango.

Red Tape.Floridas both gone but a new one is in town. Simmers is gone. Bachus and Havana still going as is Black Diamond.

Central park hotel is 4 or 5 k a night, is ok but little noisy. Hotel Metro is basic but ok 4 to 5 k.

[Rwenotmen]

Hotels: looking for something comfortable and that won't land me in a taxi for hours each night (close to Westlands or Koinange?

10,000 - 15,000.

Another?

Thanks!I recommend going AirBnB or similar. You can get an entire apartment, much better quality that 90% of hotels here, for 2500 KSh or higher per night. With less drama / comedy than dealing w / hotels. Within a less-than 30-minute radius drive of CBD.

And all flats are intrinsically girl-friendly.