Nairobi

[Neddy69]

Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.It's BS. Why. Because it doesn't work. I know scores of people having troubles. For example credit cards not working. Payment denied. The Ugandan website is sometimes not even working or very slow. A mate of mine gave up. Corruption. Not a reason either. In Tanzania you pay the Visa fee at the bank counter. So no immigration officer touches cash. There's plenty of old people who don't know how to operate a PC. It's a nightmare. They tried to introduce it couple of years back. And it didn't work back then either. These countries will lose tourist dollars every day by making it as inconvenient as possible. Do the EVisa and have fun. Make sure you have the proper passport picture resolution for example. No more than 256 kb. If you're denied Visa you lose 51 $ or you have to reschedule your flight. I am not interested in that BS.

Senegal learned from past mistakes by eliminating Visa anyway. Stamp in passport. Finish.

Neddy.

[Slowalk]

Why should People wave their holiday in Kenia only because there is no VoA? I can't believe that someone will cancel their Holiday only because of this.

What's the problem with only Evisa?

I'm sure they did it because they want to eliminate corruption and cash disappearing at the immigration counters.One issue with an eVisa is that my credit card is almost always rejected the first time. I must verify multiple times which is inconvenient from my home country but downright aggravating when I'm out of my country.

Another issue is I'm playing visa-go-round when my two 90 day visas are up, I must leave the country and start the process over from another country. I met some who do the South Africa-Namibia-Botswana circuit with no visa at all. I can go from Kenya to Tanzania for a VoA but not to Uganda unless I have a eVisa. Again, what difference does it make when Uganda Immigration pastes a white man's passport with a black woman' photo visa?

[Member #4740]

when my two 90 day visas are up, I must leave the country Wrong, you can extend forever.

[Neddy69]

Wrong, you can extend forever.You forgot to mention. Illegal. But possible. And technically it's not an extension. An Immigration officer actually stamps you out and in again
technically you have left the country virtually and return virtually... Cost depends who you know between 20 and 30k KSH. I know people who live 12 years on illegal Visa extensions in Kenya. Do I recommend it? No. And do yourself a favor. Never mention people or places where you can obtain it in the forum...

Neddy.

[Slowalk]

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system and I can't enter symptoms. The system is supposed to notify the phone number you used to create the form. If not, you still can access the system by entering the number you used. Mine just tells me my number is invalid. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.

[Neddy69]

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system do I can't enter symptoms. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.Africans and IT. The whole rubbish doesn't even work in Europe. They once said KISS. For that reason I love Guinea Bissau. They still type the residence permit by typewriter. Even if some countries have IT systems now. They're not working as they're supposed to work. The results range from hilarious to annoying. And now these online health declarations take the BS to a new level.

Old but hilarious story.

Guy arrives at Monrovia on the height of the civil war. He virtually has all paperwork in order. Even a valid Visa! Customs and immigration highly annoyed because they can't sell him a Visa and make a few hundred bucks. They took away his passport until he paid up a couple of hundred dollars in order to enter Liberia.

That's the positive in Africa. It's called corruption.

You can buy any paper and any stamp. I was offered from captains licence or genuine IDs. You name it. The problem now are the EVisa. The Airlines don't let you board without one. You probably get still VoA in Entebbe. But. See above.

Neddy.

[Member #4740]

You forgot to mention. Illegal.

Neddy.It is llegal at the immigration office. You can get a retirement visa or whatever. Money talk.

[Leblon]

Another joke is the Jitenge QR form you must have created before arrival. Once you land at NBO you will enter the airport and stand in line before you reach immigration. Health personnel scan your 3-D bar code QR form that you either printed or have open on your smart phone. You are required to log into the site everyday for 14 days and report any Covid symptoms.

In my case, my name doesn't appear when I log into the system and I can't enter symptoms. The system is supposed to notify the phone number you used to create the form. If not, you still can access the system by entering the number you used. Mine just tells me my number is invalid. I wonder what that matters after 90 days and 180 days when I leave the country.I have not heard before that I should login to some system and report covid reports. I did not do it last time and nobody asked about it when I left the country.

This QR form is kind of joke yes, I filled it couple of weeks before flight to Kenya and told that I had not covid symptoms. And I have to put there a seat number, which I had of course no idea, so I put 60 always.

There was some discussion about problems with ATMs. Although I wrote to Mombasa forum my story about ATM stolen my money, that was only time that I have had problems in Kenya. I am counting on ATMS, I don't carry very much foreign cash with me. Couple of time my foreign cash has been stolen by some girl, I haven't even known who of my many visitors.

Also, nowadays in Kenya I pay in supermarkets and in restaturants by card directly, I don't have to visit ATM so often as before.

There has not been card cloning problems like in for example South America, there I am afraid to pay by card.

I have not got problems with Visa Online either.

[Crow2]

Just discovered this site. Some Africa veterans and some thinking it ought to be like Thailand. Am resident in Kisumu. Did anyone check out the Place club there?

[Neddy69]

Just discovered this site. Some Africa veterans and some thinking it ought to be like Thailand. Am resident in Kisumu. Did anyone check out the Place club there?Check out the Other areas subforum. This is the Nairobi Forum. I wrote a few pieces about Kisumu. But very few Forum members make it there. I was there when Buccaneers Strip Club was swinging. Last elections that was. 2017.

Mwalimu.

[Kommissar1231]

Neddy69: From the information I gathered on the different sub-forums, I see that you have been around Kampala, Kigali and Nairobi. I am staying at Woodmere in Nairobi and Kahama in Mombasa but I am wondering if you had any hotel / Airbnb recommendations for Kampala and Kigali? From what I see on Airbnb and even booking.com, a lot of places seem dodgy at best. Or I am just spoiled from living in Thailand where really nice hotels can be had for 1,000 Baht a night.

[Neddy69]

Neddy69: From the information I gathered on the different sub-forums, I see that you have been around Kampala, Kigali and Nairobi. I am staying at Woodmere in Nairobi and Kahama in Mombasa but I am wondering if you had any hotel / Airbnb recommendations for Kampala and Kigali? From what I see on Airbnb and even booking.com, a lot of places seem dodgy at best. Or I am just spoiled from living in Thailand where really nice hotels can be had for 1,000 Baht a night.Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and Booking.com. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

Mwalimu.

[Kommissar1231]

Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and Booking.com. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.

Mwalimu.Thank you. Do you have a hotel, guest house recommendation for Kabalagala?

[Rwenotmen]

Yes. You are definitely spoiled. In Africa good quality accommodation can be astonishingly expensive. This is not Asia. Expect overpriced dingy accommodation. Forget AirBnB and Booking.com. For Africa. Totally overpriced. Equally the so called hostels. All for tourists. It really depends on you budget. One hint. The best you'll not find on the internet. There's loads of cheap guest houses especially in Kigali and Kampala. Expect minor inconveniences like water and power cuts. Even hotels which are not on the internet at all. I just search on the area I want to stay in and look at Google maps and maps. Me. The best internet platform for Africa used to be jumia travel unfortunately closed down. Never book in advance. Go there. Stay for 2 nights. Be prepared to move.
BTW thanks Neddy and Slowalk about the visa & PCR / covid *updated* information.

I do want to disagree with one point. With all due respect to Brother Neddy: there's no way any tourist or mongerer is going to know safe / cheap / etc places that are Not-hotels or not-Abb -- unless they already have intimate knowledge of the locations. Which 99% will not.

Doesn't matter if the places are dingy (most are not, some are) or overpriced (which, most are!

The purpose of these forums IS< to share such intimate info.

If people won't share that info, then rest of us should suggest / recommend hotels or Abbs.

I gave advice on how to filter Abb listings:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2223797#post2223797.

I gave advice about *possible* Abb options:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2522990#post2522990.

I suggest members provide more *specific* information, for all our benefit.

[Neddy69]

Thank you. Do you have a hotel, guest house recommendation for Kabalagala?https://www.agoda.com/de-de/african-tribe-hotel/hotel/kampala-ug.html?checkin=2022-01-02&checkout=2022-01-03&los=1&rooms=1&adults=2&children=0&cid=1731078&searchrequestid=657853df-03e8-4f05-8137-21c22b9c671e&tspTypes=8

Try African Tribe Hotel. I did not stay there. It's in Makindiye. I'm not giving accommodation recommendations. RTFF. I don't know of anybody's preferences and standards. Things change very quickly in Africa. Places close down or become noisy overnight. Mosque or church with midnight service nearby. Noisy Drinking dens. Don't forget. Bars were closed in Uganda füare the better part of 18 months. M7 decreed opening as of Jan. 1st 2022. But if Capital is open. Nobody knows.

Mwalimu.

[Slowalk]

I shot this photo one night. I might try here my way back through. It's in the K1 Compound.

[Kommissar1231]

Try African Tribe Hotel. I did not stay there. It's in Makindiye. I'm not giving accommodation recommendations. RTFF. I don't know of anybody's preferences and standards. Things change very quickly in Africa. Places close down or become noisy overnight. Mosque or church with midnight service nearby. Noisy Drinking dens. Don't forget. Bars were closed in Uganda fare the better part of 18 months. M7 decreed opening as of Jan. 1st 2022. But if Capital is open. Nobody knows.

Thanks mate. I will have a look!

[John Auro]

I spent a few days in NBO. i was absent in Kenya for 3 years.
My 1st Hotel was THE HERON, Millimani Road. NBO seems to have few visitors and the Hotel rates are reasonable. $43. THE HERON has a beautiful Indian-influenced architecture.

I moved to CROSSROADS HOTEL, Westlands, $41. The Launch 40-FOURTY (24 hours open!) is just above, and I mount one stage up to the 9th floor. My room is in the 8th floor and the reception at the 5th floor, so visitors are not really checked.

I was told on Wednesdays a music band plays at a place called BiSTROT? 1st floor , not far from here, opposite Havanna BAR.

THE BLACK DIAMOND changed the name THE BOSS END? And it is belonging to an Indian person now.

A few girls on Tuesday at 40-FOURTY, a group of 7 girls invited me to celebrate birthday, but I was suspicious they would oblige to charge me later for their bill, LOL.

A pleasant girl called Anne (24) flirted with me. She did not mind at all taking her pussy pixs. Finished studies sociology, next day I asked her for the subject of her Masters "You know it's difficult to study and somebody was writing my Masters, I don't remember my subject". That's Africa. She works in an SPA now. Took her for massage to my room. Beautiful body she had.

"How much You want tomorrow morning? "I don't know, maybe 100 $? " I will give you 5000 KSH (40 $)". She was nice and handsome and friendly. But her pussy, or was it her hair had an odd smell. Also, she was not passionate. And she could not find sleep and her mobile phone / Youtube was on even at 4 am. I could have paid her less too. But NBO is expensive too, U hardly get a pizza below 1000KS (€9).

Much different to sexy Shila (26), she appeared on my old Kenyan number (3 years ago) which was now under her name. She works to clean dusty buildings during construction. A normal girl. Had a hard time to convince her to visit me at my room after work. Soon she totally was happy to be with a foreigner, and she took many photos of my room, means she was never in a good Hotel.

We fell in kind of Love very quickly, but I did not sex her. I don't want to break her innocent heart- knowing that I would leave the town 2 days later. I refused to tell her my age, 70 would have shocked her. I startled myself how I managed to get her soft and take her heart? But that's Africa too.

John.

[RajaSaurus]

It would be nice to provide a map quest or address.I was struck down with Covid hard after sending that message and have only now logged back online.

I have the address and can always pass on information if someone wants to PM me.

So far no-one has contacted me about the post.

If you would like the details I am happy to share, I would not have found it without a friends help and sharing is caring in my opinion.

When I am back in Nairobi maybe we can meet up and share stories.

Then split up after exchanging contacts and create more haha.

I do love your updates.

Thank you for bringing this thread to life.

[Comoros23]

Landed in Nairobi and started the Tinder game (will write a report when I get some action! I thought I'd check out the current situation with possible scams online.

Heard of one guy going to a girls house and getting robbed. Obviously a stupid mistake, but are there any other scams I should be aware of?

Prostitution is illegal, so I suppose I should never mention money online (Otherwise, lock up anything expensive in my hotel room, and only take photos and stuff if I trust the girl. Any advice?

[Kaappo22]

Landed in Nairobi and started the Tinder game (will write a report when I get some action! I thought I'd check out the current situation with possible scams online.

Heard of one guy going to a girls house and getting robbed. Obviously a stupid mistake, but are there any other scams I should be aware of?

Prostitution is illegal, so I suppose I should never mention money online (Otherwise, lock up anything expensive in my hotel room, and only take photos and stuff if I trust the girl. Any advice?Much safer in terms of mugging and scams to have the girl come to you. Never pay in advance, at most order an Uber for her to come. You certainly could agree on the price online before the girl comes over to avoid unpleasant surprises and wasting your time, no risk in talking about that.

[Zimzam]

Much safer in terms of mugging and scams to have the girl come to you. Never pay in advance, at most order an Uber for her to come. You certainly could agree on the price online before the girl comes over to avoid unpleasant surprises and wasting your time, no risk in talking about that.Recently there was a case in Mtwapa where a German guy arranged with a girl to come to his house.

Immediately when he opened the door a man who was accompanying the girl came out of the blue and put a knife on the throat of the muzungu and asked for a lot of money.

When the victim could convince the robbers that he did not have a lot of money on him they left with whatever they could grab, leaving the victim unhurt.

[SceticoBlu]

Visa extension and first time application are made online.In theory only. I was told extensions don't work online or last endlessly. So one has to show up in the immigration office or send someone handing over 2-3 K.

[Kaappo22]

Recently there was a case in Mtwapa where a German guy arranged with a girl to come to his house.

Immediately when he opened the door a man who was accompanying the girl came out of the blue and put a knife on the throat of the muzungu and asked for a lot of money.

When the victim could convince the robbers that he did not have a lot of money on him they left with whatever they could grab, leaving the victim unhurt.Anything can happen. Still, mugging is easier to set up when the client visits strange places.

To make it even more safe one could book a house / hotel / apartment with a guard on the gate, and / or meet the girl in a nearby cafe or other public place and travel there Uber if it worries one's mind. Personally I wouldn't worry too much about such when inviting girls over, quick hands snatching something when inside the room is more probable.

[Westcoast 1951]

Had glorious time with her.

[Westcoast 1951]

More photos.

[Radical Guy]

More photos.I love that hairy pussy. I hate when they're shaved.

[Mombie75]

Just had a few nights in Nairobi on my way home from Mombasa.

Went to what was Black Diamond and is now Boss Den on Sunday night. Was around 10-15 ladies in, 3-4 were definitely fuckable. The one I had my eye on was a little 5 ft busty light brown one. She asked for 10 k, I laughed and she realized I was not silly and then said okay 5 k is my price. I was tempted but in tne end just left alone. Most of the time I can be bothered at the end of the night and usually get numbers for evening meets.

On my last day I was strolling around town and there is this little 5 ft, short natural hair, tight body with that usually juicy ass walking on by me. I had to introduce myself. After 30 minutes stroll, chat and a juice for her we were heading to my airbnb as she was waiting for her laptop being repaired. Once inside I said I was going to shower and she should join me. She did so and after soaping her up I got her on the bed and applied baby oil to that pert ass for a massage. Was not long before we were going at it, she liked to ride in a weird position but it got her off as she had a nice leg shaking orgasm before I lay her down on ner front and power fucked her from behind to shoot my bolt. Money was never mentioned. However, I had a £20 note in a small bag on my table and after showering and getting ready to see her off I notice it is missing! I just say nothing and see her off. I sms her an hour later and ask about my £20, of coarse she denies all so it must of got up and walked off on its own. Anyways, she was worth it.

[Neddy69]

Just had a few nights in Nairobi on my way home from Mombasa.

Went to what was Black Diamond and is now Boss Den on Sunday night. Was around 10-15 ladies in, 3-4 were definitely fuckable. The one I had my eye on was a little 5 ft busty light brown one. She asked for 10 k, I laughed and she realized I was not silly and then said okay 5 k is my price. I was tempted but in tne end just left alone. Most of the time I can be bothered at the end of the night and usually get numbers for evening meets.

On my last day I was strolling around town and there is this little 5 ft, short natural hair, tight body with that usually juicy ass walking on by me. I had to introduce myself. After 30 minutes stroll, chat and a juice for her we were heading to my airbnb as she was waiting for her laptop being repaired. Once inside I said I was going to shower and she should join me. She did so and after soaping her up I got her on the bed and applied baby oil to that pert ass for a massage. Was not long before we were going at it, she liked to ride in a weird position but it got her off as she had a nice leg shaking orgasm before I lay her down on ner front and power fucked her from behind to shoot my bolt. Money was never mentioned. However, I had a 20 note in a small bag on my table and after showering and getting ready to see her off I notice it is missing! I just say nothing and see her off. I sms her an hour later and ask about my 20, of coarse she denies all so it must of got up and walked off on its own. Anyways, she was worth it.Well played. Perfect gentleman. Leave money on the table so as not to embarrass the chic. They're not hookers. They're sweet creatures in need of funds. LOL. That's how a professional Africa operator works. Exemplary. At these few overpriced night clubs I just drink some beers. The best pussy you just pull off the street. Any time any place. The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun. I loved the roof terrace. In 2012 that was. I don't understand how dumb can the proprietor be to rename one of the last classic institutions in Westlands Boss Den.

Mwalimu.

Who eyes more places like Kinshasa.

[Naked Gunz]

Well played. Perfect gentleman. Leave money on the table so as not to embarrass the chic. They're not hookers. They're sweet creatures in need of funds. LOL. That's how a professional Africa operator works. Exemplary. At these few overpriced night clubs I just drink some beers. The best pussy you just pull off the street. Any time any place. The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun. I loved the roof terrace. In 2012 that was. I don't understand how dumb can the proprietor be to rename one of the last classic institutions in Westlands Boss Den. Mwalimu.Who eyes more places like Kinshasa.Oh well at least I know what to tell the Uber dude where to take me. I used Tinder most of the time anyway when I was last in Nai before Covid. Of course I got surprises, both good and bad, when the girl showed up at the door. Yes Nairobi is certainly not as before when the good times rolled.

[Slowalk]

I had a 20 note in a small bag on my table... I notice it is missing! In my book, taking something loose from a table is different than removing something from a bag from a table and taking it. Hopefully the note was all that was taken.

[IHeartIpa]

After a rough start to my trip I made it. Flying BKK to NBO and waited nearly 2 hours in line at BKK airport to then have a **** tell me I need a return / outgoing ticket when its already an hour to departure. I'm flying Qatar so try to book with them website doesn't work I have to go upstairs to ticket office etc. I cut it close but made it the flight. On arrival of course they didn't ask for it.

Productive first day Uber'ing around and checking out some apartments. Even knowing what to expect going in regarding prices its still a bit shocking. Ended up getting a place for a month+ and paying a bit more than my budget but not its my first time might as well enjoy it.

I've never been one to take pics of girls but will try to revitalize this thread with some in the coming weeks.

[Rwenotmen]

After a rough start to my trip I made it. Flying BKK to NBO and waited nearly 2 hours in line at BKK airport to then have a **** tell me I need a return / outgoing ticket when its already an hour to departure. I'm flying Qatar so try to book with them website doesn't work I have to go upstairs to ticket office etc. I cut it close but made it the flight. On arrival of course they didn't ask for it.
I had the same happen to me Dec 2020 also with Qatar A. (at Heathrow). Luckily I had it. (Ever since then, I've always pre-booked a return, even if I plan to extend it.) And same--got to NBO, they never asked about it.

I wonder if this is something strict with Qatar airlines.


Productive first day Uber'ing around and checking out some apartments. Even knowing what to expect going in regarding prices its still a bit shocking. Ended up getting a place for a month+ and paying a bit more than my budget but not its my first time might as well enjoy it.Are you using AirBnb or some other service? Share!

[IHeartIpa]

Are you using AirBnb or some other service? Share!I joined 2 different Airbnb Kenya groups on FB and posted what I wanted, and joined a telegram group also. You get plenty of messages but a lot of junk, places in bad areas, or just people who message everyone with their apartment even if it doesn't fit the posters requirements. I ended up paying full monthly price on a regular Airbnb place after going to see it and had the owner agree to reduce the price if I stay longer.

[Rwenotmen]

(Thanks Brother IHeartIpa for sharing!

Might be time to share some advice on dealing with AirBnb listings. Let's all share our advice & wisdom.

Remember the days when we had few options other than hotels?? Yes, the Bad Ole Days.

Despite Abb being a great option, "This is Kenya", so you know scamming, corruption, and unadulterated incompetence are going to be major factors in trying to find good listings. Over the years, here's what I've learned:

(1) Read ALL the reviews. Why? Because real, honest details about the place will hopefully be buried in there. Details that the Host should have put in the Description.

For example, too many Hosts conveniently fail to mention that their unit is on the fourth or fifth or higher floors -- in a NO-elevator building.

If you're lucky, one of the previous Guests will announce this "oversight" in their review. So you'll be forewarned.

If you do stay in such a place, and no previous review mentions something like this, PUT IT IN YOUR REVIEW. Help future customers to avoid such nonsense.

(2) Many Hosts 'buy' good reviews.

They either have their friends book a night or two, but they never stay there, the Host refunds their money, just to get the good review. OR-- there are people out there who offer to give good reviews for a small fee, so the Host does a similar trick with them.

(Abb doesn't care--they still get their cut from a refunded listing. And having so many bogus profiles that have "actually" booked listings, makes the Abb service look more legit that it really is).

The easiest way to start spotting bogus reviews is when there are many one- maybe 2-liner good reviews; and then you'll spot that very-detailed critical or outright bad review. Then you know most if not all those previous one-liners are bogus.

(3) Never book a listing with No Reviews.

I don't care how lovely the pics are, or how surprisingly cheap such a beautifully-furnished 2 BR in Spring Valley for 19 USD seems -- don't do it.

Let the scammer start popping bogus reviews. Which you now know how to spot. Or let some other brave soul be the first legit customer, wait to get their impressions.

(4) Look for and try to book the 'Free Cancellation' listings.

This way, if you find a better deal close to you check-in date, you can cancel with no loss.

(5) Be cautious of the 3-day Minimum listings.

My strategy has always been, book 1 or 2 nights (even in no-Cancellation spots), test the quality. If I like it, I tell the Host that I'm extending. I even try to bargain for discount. If not unreasonable, they may agree.

Some Hosts have sniffed out this strat, now they require 3-day minimums, or no cancellation at all. I avoid these, unless I know the place already, enough to book a longer stay anyway.

(6) Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!

I've had one experience where the Host (and her crony) had photos of a place on Rhapta Rd, with loads of good reviews, but when the payment was made and nearing the arrival, said that 'due to Covid' they had to do an emergency cleaning, so offered my & my friends another flat in Valley Arcade. Although we were lucky that there actually was a place, it's quality was nowhere near the photos on the listing.

This is one where I had not read ALL the reviews; if I had, I would have seen 2 or more that complained about the same thing.

I wrote in my review, and in the chat with the Host, that I was reporting her to ABB Corporate. What is more miraculous is that someone from ABB did actually respond. Soon after that, the listing was killed.

I'm sure that didn't stop the scammers from opening another bogus listing. But I haven't seen them or that previous listing for 2 years.

(7) Sometime the map marker is not near the actual location. Worse, is when the marker is NOwhere near the location!

This one may still happen: e. G. The marker shows the place 'near' Parklands, but the Description may outright say it's in NaiWest.

It's obvious the Host is trying to get guests she or he normally wouldn't. (I don't recommend anywhere in NaiWest, however, there is one building that was 'okay'.).

If the actually location is one you're aware of, and like, maybe let this (white?) lie slide. Otherwise, just strike it from your list of potentials.

(8) No review for more than a year? Skip it!

One good thing about Bad Hosts-- if no one has reviewed their listing in more than a year, wow it must really be bad! Skip these now 'zombie' listings, which Abb allows to sit in the search pool.

So, what are your advice, experiences, wisdoms about AirBnb?

[SceticoBlu]

"Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!" (Rwenotmen)


It happened to me recently in Kisumu with booking.com They even had confirmed my booking the day before via email. On arrival at the airport I gave my taxidriver their number that they direct us there. But they directed us to a different place because my apartment had been given to someone else. Of course I did not accept and went to an alternative place.

Now to the quoted proposal. On booking.com reviews are possible only after having actually stayed in the place. However I wrote a report on google. booking.com apologized but the accomodation not.

[Blakman]

I had two or three issues renting air be and be last year. One was in Valley Arcade. Decent area by the way. The set up was slightly different than the photos but the place was still nice enough to remain for the month. Another apartment in Westland looked like the photos. But had cracked tiles tiny bathroom and sink in the living room. Another apartment did not have any refrigerator. Two apartments had no generator so went lengthy times without electricity, WIFI. Fortunately in each case Air be and be sided with my defense and I was refunded and allowed to leave my agreement prematurely. So gather facts, evidence, pics to forward to the case manager and forward a good argument and luck may be on your side. Kenya was great. The women so sweet. Especially in Nairobi. Girlfriend experience, overnight stays. No rushing to leave. Don't hesitate to pay the uber and have liquor. They love to drink. And everything should be fine.


I joined 2 different Airbnb Kenya groups on FB and posted what I wanted, and joined a telegram group also. You get plenty of messages but a lot of junk, places in bad areas, or just people who message everyone with their apartment even if it doesn't fit the posters requirements. I ended up paying full monthly price on a regular Airbnb place after going to see it and had the owner agree to reduce the price if I stay longer..

[Amadeuss]

There are too many to report. Just avoid it.

If you book a hotel room and you don't like the room, there are other rooms and in most cases you can switch.

A hotel is run by reasonable professionals. ABnB is run be amateurs who just want to make a quick buck.

Worse the prepaid schemes. Never book any ABnB where you shall prepay. Most hotels you can book and pay on departure.

If you need a long term place have a look first and then agree on terms.

Power to you!

[Rwenotmen]

Overall I've had good experiences with ABB. Actually, the worse experiences I've had have been in the US!

In Kenya, the bad ones were 20% or less, for example: that one-time bait-switch -- which still worked out ok for me & my friends at the alternate place (not for the scammers, though! LOL); the one where the unit was totally fine, actually quite nice, but the Host still hadn't addressed the mosquito issue (which previous Guests had complained about, so I knew what I was getting into), currently I think the NON-bogus reviews are complaining about this more&more. Kenyans being blockheaded Kenyans, he probably won't make real changes until the money drops to zero. If even then.

Power outages and water shortages happen everywhere in Kenya, even in the so-called nice areas. Only the best hotels, and the better properties in the best neighborhoods, have backup generators and extra water tanks.

My main complaint for any ABB that I've stayed at is that they typically are NOT *Quiet*. They're always either in a poor area like NaiWest, which means noise all the time; or near some lame call-to-worship at stupid hour in the mornings; or the oldie-but goodie, very near a pub or club; or, just-my-luck, major construction is going on nearby, exactly at the time of MY booking. Which of course the Host never did warn about. But makes plenty of excuses when responding to the bad reviews.

Of course, I can avoid this by staying out in the boonies like Karen, or way-overpriced-but-probably-worth-it areas like Runda, Spring Valley, etc but either choices don't make for enjoyable mongering.

Despite all this, I don't see me ever going back to hotels. (Unless my job pays for it) For me, there's more value & freedom for the money spent with ABBs.

[IHeartIpa]

My main complaint for any ABB that I've stayed at is that they typically are NOT *Quiet*. They're always either in a poor area like NaiWest, which means noise all the time; or near some lame call-to-worship at stupid hour in the mornings; or the oldie-but goodie, very near a pub or club; or, just-my-luck, major construction is going on nearby, exactly at the time of MY booking. Which of course the Host never did warn about. But makes plenty of excuses when responding to the bad reviews..OMG this. My Airbnb is fantastic itself but there's a rooftop club a few buildings over the I can hear all night long. No way I could have known before staying here even though I saw it in person before booking.

[Naked Gunz]

The only problem with an ABB I had in Nairobi was the first one I ever got, which I went cheap with selection. I didn't know about pre-paid electric and to keep an eye on the meter but the power died on me there. I finally understood what happened, called the dude and he fixed it. The fridge was overflowing with ice and needed a defrost. It was August and it only had an tiny space heater while leaking cold air in every window. My friend always had great ABBs in Kilimani. Woodmere is always in ABB and is very quiet. Only my moaning WG was the only noise I heard. No walk of shame and on site store.

[IHeartIpa]

One thing regarding accommodation- stay in westlands or nearby. Any money you save by staying elsewhere you will spend back in taxis for yourself to go out partying, or for girls taxi money. Nairobi is just so spread out. And set your tinder search to 5 km or something otherwise you'll be giving a girl 2000 for taxi and the taxi will actually cost that LOL.

[Rwenotmen]

I had the same happen to me Dec 2020 also with Qatar A. (at Heathrow). Luckily I had it. (Ever since then, I've always pre-booked a return, even if I plan to extend it.) And same--got to NBO, they never asked about it.

I wonder if this is something strict with Qatar airlines.Arrived in NBO on Sunday.

Yes-- here it is, 2 years later, Qatar again asked at boarding about my return flight. This time, clerk didn't ask to see the return ticket (I had it anyway), just counted the days based on the Return Date to make sure it was 90 days or less. He DID want to see the Kenya Visa.

On arriving flight, QA staff handed out the old Visa application white card, and a small paper application for the Traveler Health Surveillance -- docs that GoK already made us complete online.

Of course, on Arrival, nobody asked to see those stupid paper applications.

[Rwenotmen]

And here's a live example of the WARNING, found this during a recent search: go to airbnb, check listing 49990471, read the One review.


(6) Bait-switch listings can get a Host banned. Perhaps even permanently. But you have to report them!

[Slowalk]

If you need to exchange money at a Forex and you see a policeman (not security) standing outside the building as if he's guarding the Forex, don't use the Forex. The Police and his partners are waiting for someone like you to exit the Forex with cash so they can shake you down.

[IHeartIpa]

Got a question for the old hands. Met tinder girl out once for a date next date was at my place we bang etc. Her body is fantastic so that's great. Both times she's preferred meet early in the day and to leave early evening. I prefer this as I like sleeping alone and find nothing wrong with some afternoon delight. But what's the deal? BF at home? Baby?(no damage evident). Seems unusual to me. She says she stays with family. I've only paid for her food and transport and she's plenty happy with that.

[Kaappo22]

Got a question for the old hands. Met tinder girl out once for a date next date was at my place we bang etc. Her body is fantastic so that's great. Both times she's preferred meet early in the day and to leave early evening. I prefer this as I like sleeping alone and find nothing wrong with some afternoon delight. But what's the deal? BF at home? Baby?(no damage evident). Seems unusual to me. She says she stays with family. I've only paid for her food and transport and she's plenty happy with that.You already said the reason. She stays with family. It's easy to come up with an excuse for mom / dad to be gone for some hours during the day, but much more difficult for evening and night.

[Blakman]

Invite the girls close to curfew time. You are guaranteed a sleep over LOL. Over 60 girls and 4 at the most did not sleep over last year.


Got a question for the old hands. Met tinder girl out once for a date next date was at my place we bang etc. Her body is fantastic so that's great. Both times she's preferred meet early in the day and to leave early evening. I prefer this as I like sleeping alone and find nothing wrong with some afternoon delight. But what's the deal? BF at home? Baby?(no damage evident). Seems unusual to me. She says she stays with family. I've only paid for her food and transport and she's plenty happy with that.

[Mombie75]

Went to Boss Den last night (Saturday) formerly Black Diamond in Westlands.

I would say there were 3 or 4 I would rate 8/9 and plenty others worth a visit. From past experience you can get an hour or two for 3 k in here.

[Zimzam]

For the intrepid amongst you, there is an area in the large slum in Nairobi, Kakamega, where there are many brothels where it seems locals can get laid, starting from 150 ksh upwards.

The guy in this video shows it all.

I hope this link works:

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420384981753393&_rdr

[Neddy69]

For the intrepid amongst you, there is an area in the large slum in Nairobi, Kakamega, where there are many brothels where it seems locals can get laid, starting from 150 ksh upwards.

The guy in this video shows it all.

I hope this link works:

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420384981753393&_rdrI digress. As far as I know is Kakamega the capital of Luhya county. Far away from Nairobi. I doubt if you get any good quality for that price.

Mwalimu.

[IHeartIpa]

Invite the girls close to curfew time. You are guaranteed a sleep over LOL. Over 60 girls and 4 at the most did not sleep over last year.FYI curfew is gone. All covid rules are.

[Zimzam]

I digress. As far as I know is Kakamega the capital of Luhya county. Far away from Nairobi. I doubt if you get any good quality for that price.

Mwalimu.Yes, you are right. My mistake.

Was confusing with Kibera.

[Mombie75]

I went to Brew Bistro in Westlands tonight (Sunday, though it is a holiday weekend) was very busy with a lot of hot 20's girls in. If you have a bit of game, buy a few drinks you could grab a stunner in here.

[Blakman]

I guess you miss the part where I said come back when there's a curfew LOL


FYI curfew is gone. All covid rules are.

[ImpressiveWin]

I went to UpTown Spa the other week and the lineup was incredible about 30 different girls all shapes and sizes. Full service on offer after the massage.

[Rwenotmen]

I went to UpTown Spa the other week and the lineup was incredible about 30 different girls all shapes and sizes. Full service on offer after the massage.Got to luv Kilimani's massage scene!

Q: "Are these Nairobi spas engaged in prostitution?" https://businesstoday.co.ke/nairobi-spas-engaged-prostitution/.

A: Duhhh!

More light reading:

https://girlsheavens.com/happy-ending-massage-in-nairobi/

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/big-read/2020-01-26-easy-money-versus-weird-demands-inside-world-of-massage-spas/

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/nairobi/how-kilimani-lost-its-allure-to-become-nairobi-s-gang-illicit-sex-capital-1926028

[Rwenotmen]

I went to Brew Bistro in Westlands tonight (Sunday, though it is a holiday weekend) was very busy with a lot of hot 20's girls in. If you have a bit of game, buy a few drinks you could grab a stunner in here.Thanks Brother Mombie75 for that update. No surprise this was a great weekend for the working ladies-- end of Eid, Labor Day and Baba Kibaki's passing. Made for a three- or four-day holiday / business opportunity!

I never tried Brew Bistro for mongering due to the girls have reputation for being over-prideful & over-charging for their value. Have things improved (for us) now that 'Boss Den' is getting more&more lame?

[Himbersaft]

For the intrepid amongst you, there is an area in the large slum in Nairobi, Kakamega, where there are many brothels where it seems locals can get laid, starting from 150 ksh upwards.

The guy in this video shows it all.

I hope this link works:

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420384981753393&_rdrSorry Zimzan,

Kagamega is a town north of Kisumu middle in the nowhere. I know some Girls there stay in Mtwapa are from Kagamega. Its a poor region.

[Minty Polo]

What are the going rates for Tinder girls in Nairobi? I'm asking them to spend a few hours and have been quoted anything from 2 K to 50 K.

[Mombie75]

What are the going rates for Tinder girls in Nairobi? I'm asking them to spend a few hours and have been quoted anything from 2 K to 50 K.2 k-5 k is my payable rate, they will come if wanting money, if they are okay for the time being cash wise they ask silly money, even had one ask me for 70 k.

[Pcdilwj]

What are the going rates for Tinder girls in Nairobi? I'm asking them to spend a few hours and have been quoted anything from 2 K to 50 K.I met a 22 college girl from tagged I gave her 1700 for all night she seem happy I fed her dinner bought her a drink she wants to see me again. I don't go on tinder so I guess I'm not answering your question I just prefer dating sites than a hook up site.

[Radical Guy]

I met a 22 college girl from tagged I gave her 1700 for all night she seem happy I fed her dinner bought her a drink she wants to see me again. I don't go on tinder so I guess I'm not answering your question I just prefer dating sites than a hook up site.I prefer girls who are *hoping* that I might ultimately want marriage, etc. I would never make any false promises, and always take good care of them, but I personally find the "business arrangement" approach to be a turnoff. I prefer a girlfriend experience. But who knows? One of them might actually capture my heart, and end my mongering days forever.

[Minty Polo]

Some of these Tinder girls who look nothing special saying that they get 10 K every time. Most likely lies or there are some very generous or blind people out there.

[MysteryOcean]

I am first time visiting Africa. After a decade long wait It's finally happening.

I have one week only and now I am confused which country to pick for the best experience. I wanted to go to Lagos, a lot of sexy ladies but city life is ahit. On AfroIntroduction, Ghana girls have flooded my inbox but they all seem fake to me. I finally decided to give Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar try but I am worried there won't be enough selection How's Kenya scene? I have no problem jn sweet talking ladies.

Could you fellow monger please provide some suggestions.

[Neddy69]

I am first time visiting Africa. After a decade long wait It's finally happening.

I have one week only and now I am confused which country to pick for the best experience. I wanted to go to Lagos, a lot of sexy ladies but city life is ahit. On AfroIntroduction, Ghana girls have flooded my inbox but they all seem fake to me. I finally decided to give Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar try but I am worried there won't be enough selection How's Kenya scene? I have no problem jn sweet talking ladies.

Could you fellow monger please provide some suggestions.Kenya. Although a week is nothing. Save a month or so for vacation.

Mwalimu.

[Vector313]

I am first time visiting Africa. After a decade long wait It's finally happening.

I have one week only and now I am confused which country to pick for the best experience. I wanted to go to Lagos, a lot of sexy ladies but city life is ahit. On AfroIntroduction, Ghana girls have flooded my inbox but they all seem fake to me. I finally decided to give Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar try but I am worried there won't be enough selection How's Kenya scene? I have no problem jn sweet talking ladies.

Could you fellow monger please provide some suggestions.South Africa is probably your best bet over Kenya, especially if you only have a week. Johannesburg will offer you superior flight options, better infrastructure (hotels, roads, restaurants, clubs), and more semipro options of getting laid by women who actually have jobs and their own money.

Kenya is fun, but it still suffers from suspect hotels, traffic problems, electricity outages, mosquito problems, and the other regular african nation issues. Also Kenyan girls are often referred to as the Nigerian men of african women, meaning they tend to have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance. If you really want a Kenyan gem, you will need more than 1 week, whereas in SA the women are generally cool and more the type you might stay in contact with after your trip.

[Blakman]

While I have never been to SA, I experience Kenya girls to be honest, sweet, and less conniving than all the other monger places I have been to. The clubs are hot and tinder should guarantee a fun overnight visit if you have a good talk game and know how to entertain. Nairobi has sweeter girls, girl friendly experience, You can get the same in mombasa but I found quite a few more use to P4P. I have maintain friendship with quite few and have not sent any money. I believe the girls understand that foreigner most likely won't return so they don't put false hopes that you will be lifetime partner. They simply just enjoy the moment. This is what I observe.


South Africa is probably your best bet over Kenya, especially if you only have a week. Johannesburg will offer you superior flight options, better infrastructure (hotels, roads, restaurants, clubs), and more semipro options of getting laid by women who actually have jobs and their own money.

Kenya is fun, but it still suffers from suspect hotels, traffic problems, electricity outages, mosquito problems, and the other regular African nation issues. Also Kenyan girls are often referred to as the Nigerian men of African women, meaning they tend to have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance. If you really want a Kenyan gem, you will need more than 1 week, whereas in SA the women are generally cool and more the type you might stay in contact with after your trip..

[Rwenotmen]

Fellow brethren, fair warning about Abb listing 53989039: normally I NEVER book a listing with no reviews (I needed a last-minute change of my previous apt, so went with this one) -- and this is just the example of why-not.

The map-pin shows apt is 'near' Ngong Rd, possibly near Ngong Hills Hotel. (The original Title and Description actually said it was "on Ngong Rd" - the scammers changed it).

When I booked and was ready to go there, the Hosts gave me an address for Jamhuri! -- Neema Court apartment building https://goo.gl/maps/a4rUFLqx7xmd6PwF7.

(supposedly that Gmap photo is not the actual building. The real place is supposedly "across the street".

For those of you unaware, Jamhuri (like Nairobi West) are working-class neighborhoods. Not necessarily dangerous, but not worth the peace of mind of staying there, and certainly not for the rate advertised.

BEFORE I even booked, I was asking questions about the area of the flat, such as noise levels (e. G. Were any mosques nearby), the building, safety, etc. So they knew was asking about the Ngong Rd area. They never mentioned Jamhuri. Thus, Scammers.

Although the apartment may indeed be real and look as nice as the photos, I did not book for Jamhuri, I booked for that area of the map-pin.

When I called out the hosts for their lie and demanded they cancel and refund my booking, they went silent. I immediately contacted Abb Corporate, and via their new program "Aircover" https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/3218/getting-protected-through-aircover.

-- in which Abb finally steps up taking care of customers, no longer leaving you on the hook for bad and scamming listings -- I got my refund within one day.

For good measure, copied the name and phone number of the scammers, in case I book a listing that seems legit, but they are the hosts. (Be warned, they have several listings with title "DALM".

[ZenMinded1]

Hi all. Reporting from an ongoing trip. Did some prep before arriving in NBO, and one of the candidates was a place called massage spa hurlingham. I think they have several locations but I used the one not far from Jamia central mall. Directions should be provided over whatsapp. Pretty nice experience on top floor of a building. Enter, sit in a room, girls come to show themselves and say their names, at the end receptionist comes to ask which one the client fancies.

5 k and two really nice handjob / blowjobs later with a fun Kamba lady I went out with a spring in my step. Nothing incredibly memorable (unlike a massage I got a few years ago in a random place I found in Kilimani which I still hope to find again and revisit for chance of being lucky to find the same lady), but very nice nonetheless. Showers provided and the lady told me they serve drinks in the spa too. Now that's what I call a full service Not sure about full-on sex, which is not really my preference in spa's (not that difficult to find escorts for incalls if that's your sport), but likely possible with some negotiation.

By the way, whatever happened to Westlands? It may have been a Monday evening but dayummmm was the place dead for a guy looking for a pint.

[Onojdi]

Kenya is fun, but it still suffers from suspect hotels, traffic problems, electricity outages, mosquito problems, and the other regular african nation issues. I have been in Nairobi two times for two weeks and I have never experience any of these. Except traffic but it's totally common thing in every capital city.


Also Kenyan girls are often referred to as the Nigerian men of african women, meaning they tend to have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance. If you really want a Kenyan gem, you will need more than 1 week, whereas in SA the women are generally cool and more the type you might stay in contact with after your trip.Again, I have never met a single girl that comes close to that. I met maybe 15 different girls from all over Kenya and never ever met someone that "have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance". Never. By the way it was the opposite. I found this comment utterly misleading. So any one of you brothers, who have never been in Kenya and have plans to visit the country, be with a positive mind set, just go there and enjoy life with the crazy sex loving Kenyan girls. Don't fall victim to misleading stereotypes about local girls.

Speaking about the "dishonest attitude", I have to admit that I was the person with that attitude lol. Some girls were a little disappointed that we didn`t met more often or I promised them to meet but in fact didn`t fulfil my promise - lack of time and energy, or I just prefered other girls for that day/night.

To back up my words I'm just saying that I plan my third visit there and just can't wait to arrive again in Nairobi!

[Confiable]

I have been in Nairobi two times for two weeks and I have never experience any of these. Except traffic but it's totally common thing in every capital city.

Again, I have never met a single girl that comes close to that. I met maybe 15 different girls from all over Kenya and never ever met someone that "have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance". Never. By the way it was the opposite. I found this comment utterly misleading. So any one of you brothers, who have never been in Kenya and have plans to visit the country, be with a positive mind set, just go there and enjoy life with the crazy sex loving Kenyan girls. Don't fall victim to misleading stereotypes about local girls.

Speaking about the "dishonest attitude", I have to admit that I was the person with that attitude lol. Some girls were a little disappointed that we didn`t met more often or I promised them to meet but in fact didn`t fulfil my promise - lack of time and energy, or I just prefered other girls for that day/night.

To back up my words I'm just saying that I plan my third visit there and just can't wait to arrive again in Nairobi!Totally agree. I love Africa in general and will continue to return. Scammers / dishonest behavior go both ways. Men trying to take advantage of women and the other way around. I take every story on these sites with a grain of salt.

[El Moreno 92]

While I have never been to SA, I experience Kenya girls to be honest, sweet, and less conniving than all the other monger places I have been to. The clubs are hot and tinder should guarantee a fun overnight visit if you have a good talk game and know how to entertain. Nairobi has sweeter girls, girl friendly experience, You can get the same in mombasa but I found quite a few more use to P4P. I have maintain friendship with quite few and have not sent any money. I believe the girls understand that foreigner most likely won't return so they don't put false hopes that you will be lifetime partner. They simply just enjoy the moment. This is what I observe.

.Are there many slim / spinner type girls in Nairobi? Is English widely spoken and can I get by with just English?

[Mombie75]

Are there many slim / spinner type girls in Nairobi? Is English widely spoken and can I get by with just English?Yes and yes.

[Minty Polo]

One thing to be cautious about, at least in my experience, with Tinder girls is that they can be a catfish or generally look notably worse than their Tinder photos. Best to have them send over photos and videocall them beforehand to get an idea of what to expect otherwise you may find someone very different or loosely resembling what you thought was going to meet you.

[Vector313]

Jesus this is exactly why I stopped posting on this forum.

First off, I wasn't speaking to you. I was answering the question of a newbie.

Secondly, if you actually read what I wrote instead of getting all in your feelings, I didn't say Kenya was bad. I said for that person's particular situation, south Africa is better.

Third, I've been traveling to Kenya for over 10 years and was married to a miiikenda lady for 3 of those 10. I know wtf I'm talking about because I actually lived in the country, not just visited short vacations like you. I know the people and the infrastructure.

Stick to your own posts and stop trying to discredit others just because you fell in love with a few cheap Kenyan lays. I've been all across the African continent from Dakar to Addis too Nairobi to Luanda, niamey and back to Kigali. Kenya is cool but it's really not all that.


I have been in Nairobi two times for two weeks and I have never experience any of these. Except traffic but it's totally common thing in every capital city.

Again, I have never met a single girl that comes close to that. I met maybe 15 different girls from all over Kenya and never ever met someone that "have a scam / dishonest attitude hidden under their friendly up front outward appearance". Never. By the way it was the opposite. I found this comment utterly misleading. So any one of you brothers, who have never been in Kenya and have plans to visit the country, be with a positive mind set, just go there and enjoy life with the crazy sex loving Kenyan girls. Don't fall victim to misleading stereotypes about local girls.

Speaking about the "dishonest attitude", I have to admit that I was the person with that attitude lol. Some girls were a little disappointed that we didn`t met more often or I promised them to meet but in fact didn`t fulfil my promise - lack of time and energy, or I just prefered other girls for that day/night.

To back up my words I'm just saying that I plan my third visit there and just can't wait to arrive again in Nairobi!

[Minty Polo]

Jesus this is exactly why I stopped posting on this forum.

First off, I wasn't speaking to you. I was answering the question of a newbie.

Secondly, if you actually read what I wrote instead of getting all in your feelings, I didn't say Kenya was bad. I said for that person's particular situation, south Africa is better.

Third, I've been traveling to Kenya for over 10 years and was married to a miiikenda lady for 3 of those 10. I know wtf I'm talking about because I actually lived in the country, not just visited short vacations like you. I know the people and the infrastructure.

Stick to your own posts and stop trying to discredit others just because you fell in love with a few cheap Kenyan lays. I've been all across the African continent from Dakar to Addis too Nairobi to Luanda, niamey and back to Kigali. Kenya is cool but it's really not all that.What would you rate as the best P4P countries in Africa?

[MysteryOcean]

So far few girls I talked to willing meet, but the audacity is something else. Once girl asked $2000 for threesome, one asked IPhone and one asked $500.

I live in California, can make daily trip to Tijuana. Those exotic Mexican girls are $100 max. I guess I will have to skip Kenya and go straight to Kampala.

If there any other country where girls aren't delusional? I got similar sense from conversations with girls from Ghana.

[Onojdi]

Jesus this is exactly why I stopped posting on this forum.

First off, I wasn't speaking to you. I was answering the question of a newbie.

Secondly, if you actually read what I wrote instead of getting all in your feelings, I didn't say Kenya was bad. I said for that person's particular situation, south Africa is better.

Third, I've been traveling to Kenya for over 10 years and was married to a miiikenda lady for 3 of those 10. I know wtf I'm talking about because I actually lived in the country, not just visited short vacations like you. I know the people and the infrastructure.

Stick to your own posts and stop trying to discredit others just because you fell in love with a few cheap Kenyan lays. I've been all across the African continent from Dakar to Addis too Nairobi to Luanda, niamey and back to Kigali. Kenya is cool but it's really not all that.Based on your opinion about the Kenyan girls, it seems that your marriage wasnt a happy one. And based on the positive vibes from your messages, maybe the problem was not with these evil monsters the Kenyan girls.

[Mombie75]

So far few girls I talked to willing meet, but the audacity is something else. Once girl asked $2000 for threesome, one asked IPhone and one asked $500.

I live in California, can make daily trip to Tijuana. Those exotic Mexican girls are $100 max. I guess I will have to skip Kenya and go straight to Kampala.

If there any other country where girls aren't delusional? I got similar sense from conversations with girls from Ghana.Of coarse. If they think you are green they will ask, no harm in them trying to hook the odd idiot who will stump up something silly.

In reality on the ground people are mostly paying 2,3,4 k and some more than that in Nbi.

[Vector313]

What would you rate as the best P4P countries in Africa?It really depends on what your personal approach is. Personally I'm Nigerian descendant american, so I can "blend in" more than most in many countries. I personally rank them as 1. Seychelles, 2. Uganda, 3. South Africa, 4. Kenya. If I had to pick a 5th I'd say Cameroon but that's only from experience of sleeping with a few Cameroonian women that I've met in other countries as that's one of the few countries I haven't actually been to. I tend to avoid the francaphone countries after my Senegal visit because my french is very minimal, but Cameroon people tend to speak both english and french. If your french is strong, then I'd say Cameroon and Senegal are good bets too. I encountered many hot chicks in Dakar, but if you don't speak Hausa then you are pretty much screwed.

[Vector313]

Based on your opinion about the Kenyan girls, it seems that your marriage wasnt a happy one. And based on the positive vibes from your messages, maybe the problem was not with these evil monsters the Kenyan girls.Seeing that you only focused on the girls when my comment to the other poster clearly stated that flights, hotels, and infrastructure were also major factors in my response only tells me that you have a serious problem focusing on pussy instead of other matters of life. But that's not surprising, since resorting to ad-hominem attacks instead of addressing the point made is a common femine debate tactic, and to make my own ad-hominem attack ... your posts give off a very feminie simp energy.

Don't bother responding to me again.

[Vector313]

So far few girls I talked to willing meet, but the audacity is something else. Once girl asked $2000 for threesome, one asked IPhone and one asked $500.

I live in California, can make daily trip to Tijuana. Those exotic Mexican girls are $100 max. I guess I will have to skip Kenya and go straight to Kampala.

If there any other country where girls aren't delusional? I got similar sense from conversations with girls from Ghana.Every girl in every african country will ask you for an iphone 12 pro max LOL. That's because they love to take selfies in club/bar mirrors and show of the 3 camera bump on the back of the phone as a flex to their IG followers and whatsapp status friends.

Don't pay them any mind. That is of course, if you want to score huge points with the right girl, you can get an iphone SE for $399. LOL.

[Anthony8]

What I like about Nairobi is the National Parks so nearby. A daily hike in Karura Forest seems affordable! Nothing but the perfect cheap Airbnb's.


The party times in CBD are over. Back in the days. Florida 2 k. Simmers. Madhouse. Even Black Diamond back in the days was fun.I get a very bad vibe from Nairobi when I read the forum. Prices way too high, no advice on where else to go?! Hardcore pro Central Business District (CBD)? I don't even consider Dating websites.

The Soi 6 of Pattaya (ahum used to be $15 anyways), the Kabalagala of Kampala. Where I can spread the good herb amongst these fine ladies in a pocket friendly way.

CBD / Westland based on reviews I fear are going to be hardcore expensive 5 k a night or worse:

Black Diamond.

Florida Night Club.

Relax Pub & Restaurant.

New Amar Bar & Restaurant.

Ricoz Pub.

New nyanza pub.

Small World Waters.

Apple Bees.

Sabina Joy pub (reviews of 5-10 k for all night slim girls.).

Relax Inn.

Nairobi kitale club.

Tea Room Guesthouse.

Club Bavon.

Liddos.

Gabeez.

Tahiti lounge.

Obviously this is Nairobi and 2 k for the night should still be possible. I'm not much into streetwalkers and prefer bars but since CBD seems so hardcore, how are the CBD streets? Hot slim girls? I found the locations but no price info.

CBD Streetwalkers:

Koinange Street.

River road.

Accra Road.

Luthuli Avenue.

Duruma Road Latema Road.

Kirinyaga road.

Parliament Road.

Ronald Ngara.

Outside CBD I consider SW here:

Argwings Kodhek Road (Hurlingham).

12th Street (Eastleigh).

Spine Road / Nyama Villa Club (Umoja).

The stretch from Tabernacle Church to Capital Centre (South B).

Some confirmed hooker bars outside CBD, is 2 k for the night enough here? Prices please if anyone has been here:

Mirangi Bar (Eastleigh).

JK Mbuthia House Bar (Huruma).

Heshima Junior Bar and Restaurant (Pipeline Embakasi).

Club Paris (Umoja).

Nyama Villa Club & Discotheque (Umoja).

207 Lounge Bar (Maziwa).

Kipkabus Safari Club (Ngara).

Zebra Bar (Kawangware).

Airportzone club (Githurai 44).

Double M Bar & Lodging (Githurai 44).

I'm looking for the Capital Pub of Kampala in Nairobi. Any of these bars fit the description? Any help on hooker bars outside CBD would be appreciated. No way this list is this short!

[Rwenotmen]

What I like about Nairobi is the National Parks so nearby. A daily hike in Karura Forest seems affordable! Nothing but the perfect cheap Airbnb's.

I get a very bad vibe from Nairobi when I read the forum. Prices way too high, no advice on where else to go?! Hardcore pro Central Business District (CBD)? I don't even consider Dating websites.

<snip!>Wow, this is the best site-scrape I've ever seen, LOL!

I can't answer on almost any of those places. Only to say-- if you're a mzungu, I would NOT be seen *walking* the areas of most of those places at night! (Using taxi / share to go directly there, and leave. MAYBE!

A few updated items. Year 2022:

Nairobi is as cheap or as expensive as you want to make it. That's the 'beauty' of a country so corrupt. It's 'money-laudering capital of Africa' economy provides so many opportunities for the adventurous!

Want a great meal for 5 USD or less? Try one of the Highlands Restaurants. Kenyan food of course, but yummy! E. g. Highlands Restaurants. Premier on Moi Ave diagonally across from Hilton Hotel.

Want a ridiculously (even for the US) expensive meal e. G. 14 USD just for an appetizer? Try INTI restaurant at that domed building (One Africa Place) on Westlands Roundabout.

Want a highly affordable APARTMENT, allegedly walking distance to CBD, for approx 30 USD per night? Try AirBnB listing 595244759058479447.

Want an expensive hotel ROOM for about 240 USD per night. But definitely walking-distance to Sarit Centre? Try Sankara Hotel, also near Westlands Roundabout.

Streetwalkers?

I don't know the skinny on where the best pickup spots are.

But just a few nights ago I was leaving my honey's place after midnight (after a nice BJ & bouncy session, thank-you-very-much), and I saw a few along Wood Ave, in Yaya area. Try Wood Ave from top (Argwings Khodek Rd) to bottom (Kindaruma Rd).

There're quite a few 3-4 star hotels, condos and apt buildings along that 'strip', so that must be a good 'business corridor'.

Clubs?

I'm not convince there are any more decent pickup clubs anywhere in NBO, especially after the end of the era of the sweet CBD spots. If there are any good ones, people are keeping mum. I guess they don't want a wave of wazungu to put the places on the govt's radar.

How to meet the honeys? Although it's demoralising, got to go with dating apps.

I found Tinder to be the "best" option, as the girls try to put on a best image they can. BEWARE of catfishing, it's rampant! Absolutely demand video-call before meeting; and even then, maybe a casual first meetup to ensure the goods are still good.

AfroIntroductions is definitely middle-of-the-road. Trouble is, a few real-life 9's and 10's got mzungu husbands thru there, now every slag-hag 3/4/5/6, with bad hair weaves and two or more kids, think they're going to find their soulmates on the site.

Still, it is possible to snag some half-decent 7's and 8's.

I found the 9's to be so snotty, they really believe they're too good to play-for-pay, they're going to wait for the mzungu husband, no matter what.

Tagged.com is the absolutely worse. Full of scammers (this is a sample if you see a profile that's a 9 or 10: https://taglisted.forumotion.com/t27583-scammer-with-photos-of-pornstar-daya-knight), mostly 2's and 3's who don't even hide that they're 2's and 3's, and most of the higher level girls (or fake profiles) are still lame.

There you go, that'll get you started. Other's can talk about the specific venues and locations.

[EddieLima]

Somebody get this man a beer, dammit!


Wow, this is the best site-scrape I've ever seen, LOL!

I can't answer on almost any of those places. Only to say-- if you're a mzungu, I would NOT be seen *walking* the areas of most of those places at night! (Using taxi / share to go directly there, and leave. MAYBE!

A few updated items. Year 2022:

Nairobi is as cheap or as expensive as you want to make it. That's the 'beauty' of a country so corrupt. It's 'money-laudering capital of Africa' economy provides so many opportunities for the adventurous!

Want a great meal for 5 USD or less? Try one of the Highlands Restaurants. Kenyan food of course, but yummy! E. g. Highlands Restaurants. Premier on Moi Ave diagonally across from Hilton Hotel.

Want a ridiculously (even for the US) expensive meal e. G. 14 USD just for an appetizer? Try INTI restaurant at that domed building (One Africa Place) on Westlands Roundabout...

[Taiwan Laowai]

It really depends on what your personal approach is. Personally I'm Nigerian descendant american, so I can "blend in" more than most in many countries. I personally rank them as 1. Seychelles, 2. Uganda, 3. South Africa, 4. Kenya. If I had to pick a 5th I'd say Cameroon but that's only from experience of sleeping with a few Cameroonian women that I've met in other countries as that's one of the few countries I haven't actually been to. I tend to avoid the francaphone countries after my Senegal visit because my french is very minimal, but Cameroon people tend to speak both english and french. If your french is strong, then I'd say Cameroon and Senegal are good bets too. I encountered many hot chicks in Dakar, but if you don't speak Hausa then you are pretty much screwed.Why Hausa? Isn't that mainly spoken in norther parts of Nigeria. Isn't Senegal French and Wolof? So is French enough or do you need Wolof there? Also, what makes Seychelles go to the top of your list? I haven't seen many others talk about it before.

[XXL]

Why Hausa? Isn't that mainly spoken in norther parts of Nigeria. Isn't Senegal French and Wolof? So is French enough or do you need Wolof there? Also, what makes Seychelles go to the top of your list? I haven't seen many others talk about it before.French will get you anywhere in Dakar.

[Leblon]

What I like about Nairobi is the National Parks so nearby. A daily hike in Karura Forest seems affordable! Nothing but the perfect cheap Airbnb's.

I get a very bad vibe from Nairobi when I read the forum. Prices way too high, no advice on where else to go?! Hardcore pro Central Business District (CBD)? I don't even consider Dating websites.

The Soi 6 of Pattaya (ahum used to be $15 anyways), the Kabalagala of Kampala. Where I can spread the good herb amongst these fine ladies in a pocket friendly way.

CBD / Westland based on reviews I fear are going to be hardcore expensive 5 k a night or worse:

Black Diamond.

Florida Night Club.

Relax Pub & Restaurant.

New Amar Bar & Restaurant.

Ricoz Pub.

New nyanza pub.

Small World Waters.

Apple Bees.

Sabina Joy pub (reviews of 5-10 k for all night slim girls.).

Relax Inn.

Nairobi kitale club.

Tea Room Guesthouse.

Club Bavon.

Liddos.

Gabeez.

Tahiti lounge.

Obviously this is Nairobi and 2 k for the night should still be possible. I'm not much into streetwalkers and prefer bars but since CBD seems so hardcore, how are the CBD streets? Hot slim girls? I found the locations but no price info.

CBD Streetwalkers:

Koinange Street.

River road.

Accra Road.

Luthuli Avenue.

Duruma Road Latema Road.

Kirinyaga road.

Parliament Road.

Ronald Ngara.

Outside CBD I consider SW here:

Argwings Kodhek Road (Hurlingham).

12th Street (Eastleigh).

Spine Road / Nyama Villa Club (Umoja).

The stretch from Tabernacle Church to Capital Centre (South B).

Some confirmed hooker bars outside CBD, is 2 k for the night enough here? Prices please if anyone has been here:

Mirangi Bar (Eastleigh).

JK Mbuthia House Bar (Huruma).

Heshima Junior Bar and Restaurant (Pipeline Embakasi).

Club Paris (Umoja).

Nyama Villa Club & Discotheque (Umoja).

207 Lounge Bar (Maziwa).

Kipkabus Safari Club (Ngara).

Zebra Bar (Kawangware).

Airportzone club (Githurai 44).

Double M Bar & Lodging (Githurai 44).

I'm looking for the Capital Pub of Kampala in Nairobi. Any of these bars fit the description? Any help on hooker bars outside CBD would be appreciated. No way this list is this short!I don't know so much about Nairobi but when I was there a year ago, I always went to Brew Bistro, that was nice night club, both tourist and professional girls.

Living in Nairobi is more expensive than in Mombasa, so girls ask more money. I don't know what is medium prize in Nairobi.

When Nairobi girls visit Mombasa (often, for vacation)), they ask Nairobi prices or some crazy prize, and their mouth literally drop down when I tell them that I can get girls for two thousand for night. Last time I visited Diani, one Nairobi girl asked me eight thousand, next one ten thousand, and later one twenty thousand. These were all short time prizes of course.

[Mombie75]

Anthony8.

Plenty of those places on the list I am not sure you would want to go. Places in Umoja, Eastleigh, Kawangware, etc at night! They will be fine through the day but may not be open or have anyone in them.

You are better sticking to Westlands and places like Havana, Black Diamond now Boss Den, and Brew Bistro. Brew Bistro also has a place on Ngong Road. There are plenty other places with good crowds but I am a bit out the loop on Nbi these days.

CBD / Town during the day early evening like Sabina Joy, just find a bar with loud music and women will be available.

I can't say I would ever use streetwalkers in Kenya. High risk of HiV etc.

[Vector313]

Why Hausa? Isn't that mainly spoken in norther parts of Nigeria. Isn't Senegal French and Wolof? So is French enough or do you need Wolof there? Also, what makes Seychelles go to the top of your list? I haven't seen many others talk about it before.My bad you are right. I keep mixing up Niger and Senegal in my head. Senegal = Wolof. Niger = Hausa. I would say spoken French shoud be enough, but READING french is a no go. I was using google translate to chat and the girls were looking at me puzzled. It's one of those old "I can speak it but I can't write it' types of deals there.

Seychelles .... LOL. Go read that forum bro. It's all in there.

[Comoros23]

In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).

[SceticoBlu]

Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

The extension has to be registered in the system. That is what they check at the airport. So beware of conmen who provide false printed extensions.

[Leblon]

In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).I did not have any document printed, all I had was my passport, they checked dates there. Maybe they connected to some database, probably.

I was six month also, left on the last day.

[Bajuni]

In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).Yes theoretically you need to do so.

Pre eFNS most people did not realize because the immigration officer (usually) automatically did it when extending the Visa.

Even if they don't control it strictly, it is better to do it.

If you don't and come across an immigration officer in bad mood or need of extra money, you might get into trouble.

Theoretically you then also should receive an Alien ID Card, which is helpful because it's recognized and you don't have to carry your passport all the time anymore.

Usually you never get it cause it takes them more than 3 months to issue it.

So my advice would be, to pass by at the immigration office to avoid any future possible trouble.

Keep us updated.

[Neddy69]

In country, I extended my visa. So 6 months in total. I have the document that covers me to my flight.

Just checking. I saw something on the eFNS website about people staying over 90 days registering for some document (Can anyone confirm all I need is a print out of my visa extension to exit the country? I assume there's nothing else needed, but I don't need problems at immigration when I try to leave!

(To the guy below, I bet you could mess around at night in Easleigh. If you didn't walk anywhere or have more than 2 beers. But once you're in a bar, you're fine.).You are right. Stay over 90 days you actually have to (should apply) for a Non resident alien ID. Not much use though. By the time it was issued usually after months its expired already.

Mwalimu.

Who's actually planning to hang out in Eastleigh.

[Argo1990]

I don't know so much about Nairobi but when I was there a year ago, I always went to Brew Bistro, that was nice night club, both tourist and professional girls.

Living in Nairobi is more expensive than in Mombasa, so girls ask more money. I don't know what is medium prize in Nairobi.

When Nairobi girls visit Mombasa (often, for vacation)), they ask Nairobi prices or some crazy prize, and their mouth literally drop down when I tell them that I can get girls for two thousand for night. Last time I visited Diani, one Nairobi girl asked me eight thousand, next one ten thousand, and later one twenty thousand. These were all short time prizes of course.You must be joking right? 20 k for a short time? I would not even pay that much for an entire week!

Is Nairobi really this ridiculous these days?

[Ioneto]

It must be understood that there are different prices for muAfrica, muIndi, musungu, Turists. There is also another price for stupid tourists and this has no limit.

[Mombie75]

You must be joking right? 20 k for a short time? I would not even pay that much for an ENTIRE WEEK!

Is Nairobi really this ridiculous these days??Over the years I have had plenty of girls in Nbi ask for 20-30 k and even as much as 80 k. If a girl is not short of cash when you ask her price for the deed then they will quote silly amounts in the hope that some idiot pays it and yes some do.

I find there is still plenty to be had for 3, 4, 5 k.

I am not sure what the girls are asking for in the bars where the wazungu frequent these days if anyone knows please update.

[SceticoBlu]

Payment is a subtle thing. Many girls are not used to it (those I prefer), some blush, some are shocked and to some it is like preaching to a converted.

[Comoros23]

FYI: Stayed in Kenya for 6 months. Got one extension.

Went to immigration in CBD a few days before my flight and they were surprised I hadn't got this endorsed. They wrote on a page of my passport that an extension had been given. I didn't see if this was actually checked at the airport.

A little off-putting because I don't remember reading during the online extension process that this was necessary!

[Tonsillol]

Greetings,

Does anyone knows a place in Nairobi where I can hear some Congolese live musik like days ago at Simmers?

I'm next week in Town and it would be nice to hear such music. Reminds me to the old days.

Thanks P.

Sorry for my still bad English.

[Neddy69]

Greetings,

Does anyone knows a place in Nairobi where I can hear some Congolese live musik like days ago at Simmers?

I'm next week in Town and it would be nice to hear such music. Reminds me to the old days.

Thanks P.

Sorry for my still bad English.I was looking for the same. Nobody could tell me anything. In some upscale hotels maybe occasionally. Same as Vision Congo in KLA. Closed down. I hope there'll be some life concerts. Don't forget. The entertainment industry took a big hit during COVID. There's some joints which play Congolese music. But not live.

In Mtwapa there was Legends. Also kaputt now.

There was a guy named Ricky Mulolo and band.

Mwalimu.

https://youtu.be/Bu-3G3iJ_qs

[Tonsillol]

Before covid there was this Band at club Africana (I've heard it's closed now) in Dubai who played Congolese music and during Ramadan they went to Nairobi and played there. But I didn't know where.

I did some investigations with the name you told, takes a bit time but I found out it could be possible that some live music is playing at.

Treasures Gardens Argwings Kodhek Rd.

Hera Aqua Gardens Kandara Rd.

And maybe K'Osewe Ranalo Foods Kamathi St CBD.

I will take a look if it's true when I'm there.

And yes during covid many things have changed.


I was looking for the same. Nobody could tell me anything. In some upscale hotels maybe occasionally. Same as Vision Congo in KLA. Closed down. I hope there'll be some life concerts. Don't forget. The entertainment industry took a big hit during COVID. There's some joints which play Congolese music. But not live.

In Mtwapa there was Legends. Also kaputt now.

There was a guy named Ricky Mulolo and band.

Mwalimu.

https://youtu.be/Bu-3G3iJ_qs

[TrueGent]

The amount of ladies who know and love old school US country can't be ignored. If you include those in your playlist, Maximum fun. Speak from experience.

[Tonsillol]

Available at.

Treasure Gardens.

Hera Aqua Gardens Friday Saturday at 6 pm.

Vibro Club Fri, Sat, Sun at 6:30 pm.

Pitstop Grill Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun.

Google Maps will locate you.

[Zimzam]

Ricky Mololo Ideologica playing in different places, like Standard Grill, opposite Lambada on Fridays.

Ambro la Musica, on Wednesdays in the Yacht Lounge and on Saturdays in his own club, Bottoms Up in Shanzu.

Personally I find Amitie Musica the best Congolese band with the most balanced sound and the best singers. They are playing every weekend in the Summit Grill in Bombolulu, on Wednesdays in Bamburi and sometimes in the Maasai Beach Club in Nyali.

For actual information you can go to this site:

https://whats-on-mombasa.com/

[PookyMan]

Available at.

Treasure Gardens.

Google Maps will locate you.Pay with mpesa there once and you'll be sent an sms almost every day keeping you. Informed.

[PookyMan]

Ricky Mololo Ideologica playing in different places, like Standard Grill, opposite Lambada on fridays.

Ambro la Musica, on wednesdays in the Yacht Lounge and on saturdays in his own club, Bottoms Up in Shanzu.

Personally I find Amitie Musica the best Congolese band with the most balanced sound and the best singers. They are playing every weekend in the Summit Grill in Bombolulu, on Wednesdays in Bamburi and sometimes in the Maasai Beach Club in Nyali.

For actual information you can go to this site:

https://whats-on-mombasa.com/Ambro + band is at Mios (Bamburi town) on Thursdays. I think he plays somewhere almost every day.

I will check out Amitie Musica one Wednesday when I'm back in Kenya (Sky Lounge, Bamburi town).

[Tonsillol]

As a burned child and I guess many reports about security here, I still have to say.

Do not use your phone outside the streets late night.

Otherwise something could happen what happen to me.

I was standing outside Sabina joy and trying to organize an uber for me and my night nurse. Someone came running and slap my phone out of my hand. The second unfriendly guy take my phone from the ground and run away. No chance, except you are trained well in running. Though some advice's say don't follow such useless persons of mankind cause maybe they bring more troubles in his area for you.

My advice is.

Do not show your phone around, doesn't matter daytime or nighttime.

Have a backup phone with you.

Otherwise it will be difficult for you to reach your favorite ladies from badoo, tinder, afro or whatever.

Use an applocker for your apps and block everything what's important.

Take your logistics for transportation or whatever inside the club.

Go outside hands free and watch carefully your area.

Please do not tell me how stupid I was. I know it very well.

Greetings from Mombasa.

[Slowalk]

Do not use your phone outside the streets late night.
Where did this happen?

[Mombie75]

Where did this happen?He said outside Sabina Joy.

This is common in CBD, phone snatches happen all the time. There is a good clip on you tube of a guy in CBD sitting in a taxi holding his hand out the window with his phone in it showing all the snatch attempts.

[Slowalk]

Where did this happen?The reason I asked is that there's some fragmented information online referring to a Sabina Joy in Mombasa. But, its Africa. Then there's Greetings from Mombasa on the Nairobi forum.

I was in the Sabina Joy on Moi Ave Central Business District (CBD) in April. It was so loud that no way you would've made a call from inside. Don't get down on yourself. If you must break out the phone, I was advised to stand with your back against the wall and always be ready for attack. Years ago, I had my Blackberry jacked in E. St Louis, MO. You will be prepared the next time.

When I walked in to Sabina Joy, there were a few customers mixed in that were just sitting at tables and at the bar drinking nothing at all. I noticed that they seemed to scan my clothes pockets. Being so loud I couldn't hear the receptionist and feeling my personal alarms, I pointed to my ears then turned around and walked out. I immediately crossed the street in case I was being followed then crossed again down the road.

[Neddy69]

The reason I asked is that there's some fragmented information online referring to a Sabina Joy in Mombasa. But, its Africa. Then there's Greetings from Mombasa on the Nairobi forum.

I was in the Sabina Joy on Moi Ave Central Business District (CBD) in April. It was so loud that no way you would've made a call from inside. Don't get down on yourself. If you must break out the phone, I was advised to stand with your back against the wall and always be ready for attack. Years ago, I had my Blackberry jacked in E. St Louis, MO. You will be prepared the next time.

When I walked in to Sabina Joy, there were a few customers mixed in that were just sitting at tables and at the bar drinking nothing at all. I noticed that they seemed to scan my clothes pockets. Being so loud I couldn't hear the receptionist and feeling my personal alarms, I pointed to my ears then turned around and walked out. I immediately crossed the street in case I was being followed then crossed again down the road.What's the big deal. I was in Sabina Joy a month ago. SOP after night falls. 2000 KES distributed between both my pockets and my left sock. Plus my 20 $ Nokia African Edition NON smart phone including torch light. In bad areas I carry my 20 $ tactical aluminum torch with serrated Aluminum edges. Hurts a lot. The music was bearable. Sweet bongo and gengeton tunes. Later Congolese. Looks sure. I was the only Muzungu in there but then again. I have a black heart. Kweli kabisa.

Mwalimu.

Who is roaming the Swahili coast.

[Tonsillol]

The reason I asked is that there's some fragmented information online referring to a Sabina Joy in Mombasa. But, its Africa. Then there's Greetings from Mombasa on the Nairobi forum.Was happen in Nairobi but when I wrote the text I was in Mombasa.

I also visited Eureka Bar next to Sabina Joy but a bit too professional there. Also no interesting ones inside.

Before I was at Scratch Bar, fully crowded and very interesting ones but they were in groups. So a bit difficult to get in contact.

[Minty Polo]

How long after the elections do things go back to normal? Realise I'm arriving two weeks after the election.

[Mombie75]

How long after the elections do things go back to normal? Realise I'm arriving two weeks after the election.Who knows? Neither will likely accept defeat but the courts are pretty strong these days so hopefully if it comes to that it will sort itself out quickly. If there is trouble it is usually in the slum areas.

[Albert9989]

How long after the elections do things go back to normal? Realise I'm arriving two weeks after the election.I am in Kenya now, elections are on 9, results published 7 days after.

Haven't seen anything abnormal up to now but I am not in Nairobi now.

[LoyalJohn]

I and my wife would like to get a Nuru massage in Nairobi. Founds Apples Nuru massage w / a quick map search. Seems legit but they don't share pics upfront so hesitating to visit the place. Wondering if there are other options in Nairobi? We're looking for BI girls local or foreigners to get a full service.

Side note: If anyone has a personal contact they're willing to share, that would be greatly appreciated as well.

[Pcdilwj]

I'm talking to a lot of girls on dating sites so I'm asking them how much is bolt from there home to westlands where I will stay what are BM willing to pay to meet a girl I'm not willing to pay more than 600 bobs one way to meet a girl a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt so if they say its 1.5 k to come to westlands by uber I'm not interested in them any feedback.

[Rwenotmen]

...a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt...A lot of girls LIE. They take public transit ALL. The. Time. They take matatus to meet you wherever. After you have your fun and let them leave or kick them out, it's straight to the matatu stage they will go, not call Bolt.

They want you to pay that extra so they can brag to their friends you spoiled them.

And you're too generous even at 600 KSh: I just went thru my Bolt receipts and here're some examples:

580 KSh. Due to nighttime jam:

Pickup: Charles New Road - 20:52.

Dropoff: Westlands - 21:37.

https://goo.gl/maps/NQJANdtdayqdAGgj8

530 KSh:

Pickup: Kibera - 20:48.

Dropoff: Gem Lane - 21:14.

https://goo.gl/maps/1UxDwHnFeHKZcyVM7

450 KSh.

Pickup: Rabai Road - 18:58.

Dropoff: Yaya Centre, Argwings Kodhek Road.

https://goo.gl/maps/yDSfxSRBKbAtJeqp6

So you're doing the right thing. Don't let them squeeze you for 'luxury' fares. Tell 'them the more you pay in fare, the less they get afterwards.


I'm talking to a lot of girls on dating sites so I'm asking them how much is bolt from there home to westlands where I will stay what are BM willing to pay to meet a girl I'm not willing to pay more than 600 bobs one way to meet a girl a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt so if they say its 1.5 k to come to westlands by uber I'm not interested in them any feedback.

[Neddy69]

I'm talking to a lot of girls on dating sites so I'm asking them how much is bolt from there home to westlands where I will stay what are BM willing to pay to meet a girl I'm not willing to pay more than 600 bobs one way to meet a girl a lot of girls say they don't used public transportation just uber or bolt so if they say its 1.5 k to come to westlands by uber I'm not interested in them any feedback.It's just BS. They pocket the money for Uber or Bolt and use Matatu. Very easy to deal with. I give you 3 k for massage whatever you spend on transport is your problem. Finish. Most of the chicas are slum dwellers happy to get some Ugali and Chapati for food. They just take you for a ride. Remember. The biggest bullshitters, liars and cheats on this planet are kenchics. Ask any local.

Mwalimu.

[Leblon]

I am in Kenya now, elections are on 9, results published 7 days after.

Haven't seen anything abnormal up to now but I am not in Nairobi now.There are many different votes in these same elections. I remember reading that presidential votes, neither main candidate probably will not get more than 50 % in first round. So second round elections may come for president election? I may be wrong.

[OakTownPaul]

What's the big deal. I was in Sabina Joy a month ago. SOP after night falls. 2000 KES distributed between both my pockets and my left sock. Plus my 20 $ Nokia African Edition NON smart phone including torch light. In bad areas I carry my 20 $ tactical aluminum torch with serrated Aluminum edges. Hurts a lot. The music was bearable. Sweet bongo and gengeton tunes. Later Congolese. Looks sure. I was the only Muzungu in there but then again. I have a black heart. Kweli kabisa.

Mwalimu.

Who is roaming the Swahili coast.I have been to Kenya twice this year. Many times I am the only white man the room. No problem. I smile, bring good heart and I appreciate the people around me. Always a good time. Though, like an idiot, I had a hard time finding Sabina Joy. But, when I got there, It worked out well for me. Going back to Kenya in October.

[OakTownPaul]

While I have never been to SA, I experience Kenya girls to be honest, sweet, and less conniving than all the other monger places I have been to. The clubs are hot and tinder should guarantee a fun overnight visit if you have a good talk game and know how to entertain. Nairobi has sweeter girls, girl friendly experience, You can get the same in mombasa but I found quite a few more use to P4P. I have maintain friendship with quite few and have not sent any money. I believe the girls understand that foreigner most likely won't return so they don't put false hopes that you will be lifetime partner. They simply just enjoy the moment. This is what I observe.

.Please excuse my jumping in. I think our opinion about any place depends on the circumstances of our meeting other people, did we have a good time, and / or were we scammed by someone who just wants our money.

I have been to SE Asia, South America, Mexico, Europe the Caribean etc. I have had good and bad experiences in every continent / country.

When I was in Nairobi, I got lucky. And I had the best experience for me. Why? Because I know what I like, and I found what I liked best. Tall, thin, beautiful, smiling, sexy, happy, appreciative and always attentive to my needs. No drama. No fights. No games. If you know what you are looking for, there are gems all over the world. Some are hidden. Some will be sitting right next to you. I think the best way to know what you really like is to go to a lot of countries and see what gems you like best. If this doesn't work, at least you will travel the world and have fun trying.

My point. If you like sweet african women, you "might" like Kenya. I did.

[Slowalk]

I have been to Kenya twice this year. Many times I am the only white man the room. No problem. I smile, bring good heart and I appreciate the people around me. Always a good time. Though, like an idiot, I had a hard time finding Sabina Joy. But, when I got there, It worked out well for me. Going back to Kenya in October.That's how I carry myself too. Friendliness goes a long way. Sometimes, when the senses tingle, I've learned to heed my personal alarms.

I'll go there again at the end of the month when I return to Kenya.

[Albert9989]

There are many different votes in these same elections. I remember reading that presidential votes, neither main candidate probably will not get more than 50 % in first round. So second round elections may come for president election? I may be wrong.What I can confirm is that today in Nairobi its calm. Results are expected for tomorrow.

But yesterday when passing narok by car we were advised that big troubles were in progress.

Finally when we came there the police was everywhere and everything was calm. But we saw many rocks along the road used to create barrages and also many broken glass on the road coming from the cars hitten by rocks or other tools.

Tension was present in the city, but the main road was calm with the police.

We'll see tomorrow. Result's seems very closed. 2nd turn? . Or troubles again.

[Albert9989]

Finally results where announced yesterday, Monday at 6 pm, Ruto candidate win by 50.49 percent, I am still in Nairobi, seems calm but I heard that one of my friend received a rock in the glasses of the car, the front glass was fully destroyed, this happen close to airport.

I have to go to train terminal today, close to airport. We'll see how it goes.

[Browse]

I went to UpTown Spa the other week and the lineup was incredible about 30 different girls all shapes and sizes. Full service on offer after the massage.I'm trying to figure out which uptown spa is the one that's open. Two of them show up on Google map. One on George padmore Road and the other on galana Road. TIA.

[Desin]

I returned home from a business trip to Kenya in the beginning of February, the whole experience was just incredible. The first morning after my arrival I went to get a local SIM for my pussy phone, snacks and condoms. Had trouble setting up Tinder so I installed Tagged instead. Of course I used the tricks I've learned from girls like grabbing a photo from online, setting my age 8 years younger than it really is and faking my name and nationality.Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?

[Albert9989]

Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?I just used tantan and I found several beauties which were not fat with wide asses.

I can ensure you that there are some, or many, especially the turkane whit which I spent 1 week had really an incredible long slim body with big breast. A dream.

Another way is to come there, just go to big tree mombasa North coast and all girls there are slim, they know that fireigners don't like big asses so all of them are slim there.

[Ioneto]

Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?Africans actually go crazy for fat girls and call those slender "girls for mzungu" that in fact abound in clubs frequented by Europeans like Big Tree and Casuarina. To understand what you can find, watch Miss Casuarina's elections on You Tube. I think there is what you are looking for.

[Kaappo22]

Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?Of course your mileage may vary. I haven't used Tagged in a while, so not sure how the current situation is. But it's a number's game anywhere in Africa. When there's millions of girls in a country willing to fuck you there's something for everyone. The app of choice depends on the country and day. Maybe Tinder works better than Tagged, maybe you should just approach the hot looking girls that you meet while in your destination.

As for me, haven't searched for a while in Kenya. When I go over every couple of months I always meet with the girl from the post you referred to. She's damn great and just keeps going wilder every time. She's up for anything and comes up with dirty fantasies of her own. In addition to the great fucking in private and public she sometimes asks to be cuffed, tied, leashed, whipped, spanked and so on. Why not, my dick doesn't oppose. Occasionally she invites her friends over for threesomes. The only thing better than a pretty girl sucking your dick is two pretty girls sucking your dick.

As you can see from the pics, the body is great. Luckily her face is even better, would shine like a star even in Hollywood.

[SeanBenz]

Hi fellas,

Long time lurker on here. Hitting Nairobi in 12 days.

Please someone tell me the quoted 25 kes by an admittedly hoot young thing is not the norm in Nairobi.

Because that's not sustainable in the slightest.

I am hoping for 3 k-5 k kes now that's understandable.

[Vector313]

Found this report by chance and thought "oh okay, maybe Kenya is The African country I've been looking for to become my dream journey destination.

Downloaded Tagged and set up to Kenya to look what kind of girls are there.

Fat girls. And more fat girls. And more. Apparently those who have a pretty face don't have to use Tagged.

Is there an African country which produces black or black&white-mixed girls with slim waist, beautiful breasts, normal (rather excercised than flabby) ass and facial features that would resemble those beauties that Hollywood has learned us to think as beauty?Tinder is the app you want in Kenya, but you won't really find any mixed girls.

If you want mixed African women, you need to go to Cape Town SA or go to west Africa in places like Cape Verde. If you are stuck on east africa, you can find light skinned mixed with Arab in places like yemen, Ethiopia, somaliland, or Djibouti. Anywhere that's a former french colony should run you into some mixed african girls, but usually they are mixed because they come from a european parent and thus not of the social class to need to be out selling front.

[Mombie75]

You do not see many fat girls in Kenya.

[Muzungufotsy]

You do not see many fat girls in Kenya.You must be blind.

[Popp Star]

Dear friends, is there any place to visit for inside / nearby Nairobi Airport?

[Rwenotmen]

Hi fellas,

Long time lurker on here. Hitting Nairobi in 12 days.

Please someone tell me the quoted 25 kes by an admittedly hoot young thing is not the norm in Nairobi.

Because that's not sustainable in the slightest.

I am hoping for 3 k-5 k kes now that's understandable.It's not the norm for anywhere in Kenya, or the equivalent anywhere in Africa -- unless she's a *true* Professional, like Instagram thot level. Even then, tell her to show you her IG page! LOL.

Just negotiate her downward. African culture is all about negotiating.

Here's a game (strategy) to try: if you haven't met her in-person, don't negotiate yet; just tell her "let's meet" for drinks / lunch / dinner / etc "and we'll discuss then". This way, you get to see if the goods are still any good.

(Do NOT pick an expensive place to meet. Like some stupid foreigners do, even on this site. You haven't gauged yet if she's worth a cup of coffee, lolol).

If she refuses or gives excuses why she can't (won't), drop her like a hot piece of siht that she is. She's wasting your time.

If you do meet, if you like what you see, start the 'bargaining' as Kenyans say. You have to gauge on what you see: e. G. If she's really a 6 or 7, start your haggling at maybe 3 K; upper 7-8, 4 K to 6 K; etc etc. It's up to you to judge what she's worth to ya.

It's all a gamble, but that's part of the fun & excitement, heh.

Be warned though-- some of the most beautiful women in the non-Western world are some of the worse lays in the world. It's shocking how terrible they are at pleasuring a man. Kenya is no exception.

[SeanBenz]

It's not the norm for anywhere in Kenya, or the equivalent anywhere in Africa -- unless she's a *true* Professional, like Instagram thot level. Even then, tell her to show you her IG page! LOL.

Just negotiate her downward. African culture is all about negotiating.

Here's a game (strategy) to try: if you haven't met her in-person, don't negotiate yet; just tell her "let's meet" for drinks / lunch / dinner / etc "and we'll discuss then". This way, you get to see if the goods are still any good.

(Do NOT pick an expensive place to meet. Like some stupid foreigners do, even on this site. You haven't gauged yet if she's worth a cup of coffee, lolol).

If she refuses or gives excuses why she can't (won't), drop her like a hot piece of siht that she is. She's wasting your time.

If you do meet, if you like what you see, start the 'bargaining' as Kenyans say. You have to gauge on what you see: e. G. If she's really a 6 or 7, start your haggling at maybe 3 K; upper 7-8, 4 K to 6 K; etc etc. It's up to you to judge what she's worth to ya.

It's all a gamble, but that's part of the fun & excitement, heh.

Be warned though-- some of the most beautiful women in the non-Western world are some of the worse lays in the world. It's shocking how terrible they are at pleasuring a man. Kenya is no exception.Thanks mate.

My overzealous ass is still in the west and have Tinder set to Nairobi already.

Will calm down a little. Only there for a couple of weeks. So my time there is limited.

[BionicMan]

Dear friends, is there any place to visit for inside / nearby Nairobi Airport?If I well recall you might see some wild animals in the vicinity.

[Radical Guy]

You do not see many fat girls in Kenya.You see a variety, like any other country.

[ChipBbw]

You see a variety, like any other country.I am big time into BBWs. Which country in Africa would be the best for that?

[Minty Polo]

Apart from Tinder, where are the best spots to pick up in Nairobi? I presume Boss Den (formerly Black Diamond) is a spot to try and other places like Brew Bistro are good spots but they have a mix of those on the game and those just enjoying a night out?

[Pcdilwj]

Apart from Tinder, where are the best spots to pick up in Nairobi? I presume Boss Den (formerly Black Diamond) is a spot to try and other places like Brew Bistro are good spots but they have a mix of those on the game and those just enjoying a night out?In Westlands also K1 and havana where WG go to hang out You can find some on the street corner close to k1 also can find a few girls on Westlands road some girls hang out on the street. If you have Game meet a college or normal girl out with her friends in all the clubs see if you can score that way so many clubs so many girls.

[Farcondee]

Hey guys,

Long time Bangkok veteran here and going to Nairobi for the first time.

Any kind soul mind just give a few quick answers to these:

- Are the hotels generally accepting of guests? Or do I need to email a bunch and ask them before I go? Is there a list compiled somewhere?

- Which areas should I live in? I'm only looking for 4/5 star hotels where I can bring the girl up to my room. Price is no issue. And preferably somewhere where I can meet girls on the street as well. And having lots of restaurants and maybe shopping nearby would be nice as well.

[Mombie75]

Hey guys,

Long time Bangkok veteran here and going to Nairobi for the first time.

Any kind soul mind just give a few quick answers to these:

- Are the hotels generally accepting of guests? Or do I need to email a bunch and ask them before I go? Is there a list compiled somewhere?

- Which areas should I live in? I'm only looking for 4/5 star hotels where I can bring the girl up to my room. Price is no issue. And preferably somewhere where I can meet girls on the street as well. And having lots of restaurants and maybe shopping nearby would be nice as well.I guess if it is girl friendly then in town or the cbd as locals call it you could stay at Sarova Stanley, email to get the rules on GF.

Ibis or another hotel in Westlands might be an idea too.

In Cbd you have people traffic all day, approach who you like with a s ile and Hello, and most will respond. Same ins Westlands as you have 2 largish shopping malls, Shopping malls are good for meeting ladies.

Do not expect anything like Bkk.

[Albert9989]

I guess if it is girl friendly then in town or the cbd as locals call it you could stay at Sarova Stanley, email to get the rules on GF.

Ibis or another hotel in Westlands might be an idea too.

In Cbd you have people traffic all day, approach who you like with a s ile and Hello, and most will respond. Same ins Westlands as you have 2 largish shopping malls, Shopping malls are good for meeting ladies.

Do not expect anything like Bkk.I stayed in Lotos Inn Suites located in Westland, very good hotel, not very expensive, but I can't confirm for bringing girls as I had mine with me.

Anyway you can ask them what is their guest policy, and for restaurants, shops, you can use Bolt and get a car in 5 minutes to go everywhere.

[SceticoBlu]

In Cbd you have people traffic all day, approach who you like with a smile and Hello, and most will respond.

Friendly persons respond to a smile. Some accept invitations. But to get them naked might be a long way and can't be taken for granted at all.
First time visitors should not have too optmistic expectations and think the whole CBD is more or less a brothel.

[PierreSi]

Hi everyone,

I appreciate all the contributors to this forum. I've done a search for massage parlors and have seen all your great reports of locations further out from the city center. I am making my 2nd trip to Nairobi early next year. On a prior trip in 2017 I had a a fairly good (except the condom broke) experience at the Massage Parlor on the 5th floor of Dev Towers. Once again I have a very limited window of opportunity on this next trip and I was wondering if anyone knows if that parlor is still open, or if there are any other parlors with Full Service extras in the city market area?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.

[PierreSi]

Hi everyone,

I appreciate all the contributors to this forum. I've done a search for massage parlors and have seen all your great reports of locations further out from the city center. I am making my 2nd trip to Nairobi early next year. On a prior trip in 2017 I had a a fairly good (except the condom broke) experience at the Massage Parlor on the 5th floor of Dev Towers. Once again I have a very limited window of opportunity on this next trip and I was wondering if anyone knows if that parlor is still open, or if there are any other parlors with Full Service extras in the city market area?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.So I'll answer at least part of my own question, in the hope it's useful to others as well. I've found another site with 2 recommendations in that area. City Spa and Crystal Spa. Based on the other poster's comments, they favored Crystal Spa. Still not sure if the Dev Towers spot is open, but I will likely try Crystal Spa on my visit and will endeavor to post a report. Any additional advice would be appreciated.

Crystal Spa, Crystal spa is on fourth floor of Market Mansion house. Biashara Street, Market Mansion, Suite 401.

City Spa is on the first floor of Jubilee house on Muhindi mbingu street opposite jevanjee gardens.

[Tradewinds]

Never go above 3 k; they will accept!! I've been here for the last 5 months (with visa extension) and I've never gone above 3 K, times are hard in Kenya and girls are feeling it, so talk of 5 k, 6, 7 K is crap, hold the line!!


It's not the norm for anywhere in Kenya, or the equivalent anywhere in Africa -- unless she's a *true* Professional, like Instagram thot level. Even then, tell her to show you her IG page! LOL.

Just negotiate her downward. African culture is all about negotiating.

Here's a game (strategy) to try: if you haven't met her in-person, don't negotiate yet; just tell her "let's meet" for drinks / lunch / dinner / etc "and we'll discuss then". This way, you get to see if the goods are still any good.

(Do NOT pick an expensive place to meet. Like some stupid foreigners do, even on this site. You haven't gauged yet if she's worth a cup of coffee, lolol).

If she refuses or gives excuses why she can't (won't), drop her like a hot piece of siht that she is. She's wasting your time.

If you do meet, if you like what you see, start the 'bargaining' as Kenyans say. You have to gauge on what you see: e. G. If she's really a 6 or 7, start your haggling at maybe 3 K; upper 7-8, 4 K to 6 K; etc etc. It's up to you to judge what she's worth to ya.

It's all a gamble, but that's part of the fun & excitement, heh.

Be warned though-- some of the most beautiful women in the non-Western world are some of the worse lays in the world. It's shocking how terrible they are at pleasuring a man. Kenya is no exception.

[SceticoBlu]

PierreSi.

Go to the small road just behind TomMoya Street / Robert Ngala St There is a massage sign and during the day sometimes ladies are in front of the shop to look for customers.

To find the road you can also put in on google maps 'Universal Reliance Emporium Ltd' which is on the same road.

A bit outside the center there are numerous parlors in Hurlingham and Westlands.

[Albert9989]

PierreSi.

A bit outside the center there are numerous parlors in Hurlingham and Westlands.And what are prices in these MP, mainly Westland, I tried one last time but was surprised with quite high prices. Starting prices were above 3 k for just massage. I didn't ask for additional services.

Is that normal starting prices in this area?

In Mombasa, big Tree it was 1 k for 1 HR and many things were possible but only the basic massage was so great.

[SceticoBlu]

And what are prices in these MP, mainly Westland, I tried one last time but was surprised with quite high prices. Starting prices were above 3 k for just massage. I didn't ask for additional services.

Is that normal starting prices in this area?

In Mombasa, big Tree it was 1 k for 1 HR and many things were possible but only the basic massage was so great.Yes that are roughly the prices they ask for. At least by those who have a badge for massage.

[Rwenotmen]

Brother Tradewinds, welcome back!


Never go above 3 k; they will accept!! I've been here for the last 5 months (with visa extension) and I've never gone above 3 K, times are hard in Kenya and girls are feeling it, so talk of 5 k, 6, 7 K is crap, hold the line!!Brother Tradewinds, I don't disagree with you, if it's a normal day!! But for the new-recruit mongerers, we can't advise them to be hardnose at this early stage of their education, got to give them leeway to feel out the market.

Myself I stay between 3-4 K, and my standard quality of lady is btwn 7's and 8's. When I've taken 6's, they were fully happy with 3 K (and typically provided better service, thus my warning at the end).

There were very few times where I increased exactly to 5 K, and those were when I got ladies with eyepopping luscious tits. I'm a Tits Man. You already know in Kenya, the ladies have asses 'Made in Heaven', but it's hard to get good firm totties. During those moments, my regular brain gets stunned to see them lovelies, my other head takes over the decision-making, so a few extra KshS it is!!

The only way I'ld go 8 K or above is if she's truly an IG thot lololol! And I'm getting pics and maybe a video as proof I fcuked her.

The highest I've ever really paid was 7 K: was few years ago, at-then Black Diamond, on a weekday night, during July so a bit cold in the evening. Obviously a slow night, nothing good pops into my radar. Then in comes an interesting what-I-thought was a 6 or 7, looks around, sees me, and gives me that look we all know, like when the doghound senses the prey. She zeros-in directly to me.

As she approached I could see somewhat under her long coat, her body seemed averagely nice, not chubby, but not overly curvaceous like I like. When she sat down, I could see her face was an easy 7. To this day, I'm not sure she was Kenyan. Her facial features, although African, had a certain something about them.

What really attracted me was her voice: not only was her English perfect, still with that 'African' flow, but there was a tinge to it that proved she was either an actual professional business person or very well-educated. Maybe some of you have met her too?? During our early chatting I was more interested in her background, than her body. But just for a short time!

Soon, naturally and smoothly, *she* started the negotiating. Ahh-ha, so she was certainly a Professional in *that* way!

She started at 10 K. Of course, as all the BD pros do. I countered with my 3-4 K range. Probably because it was a slow night, I didn't plan to stick around any later, her voice was enticing, and peeks at the cleavage showed she wasn't flat-chested, we agreed to 7 K.

When we got back to my flat I was sure she was going to go right into business and keep it that way, as pros do. Surprisingly she was nicely GFE. Since it was cold, of course no heaters in the place, she still had on her coat while we're watching a movie. When I innocently, ahem, suggested we get comfortable and warm under a duvet, she knew the score: she took off her coat and undressed -- SHAZAM, she had the body of easily an 8! Great curvy firm tits, flat stomach, some nice hips and butt even though I wouldn't call her curvy. Could she be a model or real entertainment worker??

Seeing all that goodness, 7 K seemed a good deal!

And it was-- two sessions that night, and one more in the morning, she didn't push for more money or give any kind of aggro, and quickly departed. We never exchanged numbers, I don't remember her name, and I never saw her again the few times I went back to Black Diamond.

{ahhh, Kenya memories. Can't wait to get back there}.

All that to say - *There are Exceptions!

[GeorgeK81]

I am going for the first time in Kenya in December. I tried to gather as much information from this forum but the answers are mixed and in various posts, it kind of makes my brain a mush.

I used to badoo to meet women, some just want to be friends, some for hook ups, some for both, and those that do want hook ups ask from 20 dollars to 250 and looks have nothing to do with what they charge.

Now, I also want to meet women once I am at Nairobi, I prefer to meet a street girls then get a professional one and I wish I made my point understood. I land at Nairobi, what do I do next? I read that women will come to you, some that you have to talk to them, some that they dress seductive, some that they dress normally. Some say they won't come to you, some that you can meet them in the clubs, some at the malls etc. So either all are true or one cancels the others.

Please help me about, I need your experience and also an app except badoo.

Thank you so much.

[Martin00]

Hello,

I'll be on a business trip in Nairobi so I'll have limited time during the day for some action. I usually like MP (massage parlours) where extra BJ FS can be had, so I wonder if there are some well known ones where I can visit with high chances of satisfaction?

Alternatively, any brothel for day shags without all the hassle of meeting and taking the girl back to hotel etc. ?

I read many pages of this forum but I am still confused on the good MP, without having to scout paper newspapers!

Thanks.

[Gesheft]

I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder.

I advise my exact intentions up front and the response is like 90% positive.

(and I am not a young stud).

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

G.

[SceticoBlu]

The massage places in town which I mentioned before are still there namely at Mfangano Road. One sees signboards 'Barber shop' and below in smaller letters 'Full body massage'. So this is not unofficial stuff.

Sometimes girls promote in front of the shops. They name 2K for one hour.

[DarrenGap]

I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder...

G.I would be surprised if even one looked like that when you meet.

[Tonsillol]

I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder.

I advise my exact intentions up front and the response is like 90% positive.

(and I am not a young stud).

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

G.Hi Gesheft,

Cool, with the 4th one I'm also in contact. Though I'm not 100% sure if I will meet her cause too many options, too less time.

[Martin00]

Hello,

In the Nairobi thread here on ISG there's not too much chatting in the last 6 months so I am afraid that info could be outdated and things changed due to Covid.

I am looking to get an hotel in Westland or Kilimani (this latter preferred as there are more massage parlors for what I see compared to Westland), with requirements:

1. Guest friendly with no hassle (ex. No problem in bringing in different girls each day, or multiple on the same day!

2. Price range daily $20-40 (not looking for luxury, just a clean room with double bed).

Even though I occasionally go to bars, I am more like a day animal (like Eddy) so I prefer to be in walking areas like Westland or Kilimani. Which one would you recommend and why? I read that sleeping in Kilimani needs a lot of taxi rides so a bit concern on this choice.

Thanks!

[Rwenotmen]

2. Price range daily $20-40 (not looking for luxury, just a clean room with double bed).The good ole days of cheap hotels in those areas are over, for 10 years now, since the Chinese came in and built up their properties. Even not-so-bad Gracie / Grace Hotel behind Yaya is 90 USD: https://www.gracehouseresort.com/pages/rates/.


I prefer to be in walking areas like Westland or Kilimani. Which one would you recommend and why? I read that sleeping in Kilimani needs a lot of taxi rides so a bit concern on this choice.If you want walkable massage parlors, and close-by streetwalkers, Kilimani is the better option.

(I never stayed at any of these, so you can do us all a favor. If you stay at any, come back and report the actual details of them.).

Some place called Fahari Palm, located on the east side of Ring Rd, is supposedly 41 USD: https://www.faharipalm.com/ - and is walking distance of at least one of the massage parlors known for happy-endings.

Hays Suites Hotel, located on the west side, Wood Avenue, is apparently 34-36 USD. As I mentioned in a previous post (LESS than 6 months ago, ahem), I saw some SWs working that strip.

If you're willing to try Airbnb or Booking.com, I know for a fact a place walkable to Yaya, 10 mins tops, is the Tropical Towers apartment building, also on Wood Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/9wJ6rdAMHnaksnRm8.

Check out the Abb listings for two places in there - 2611814: $33 - 1 BR // 13194695: $38 - 2 BR. (Booking from the management office is way more expensive. That's why I initially rejected it until I found the Abb listings.)

No taxis / Bolts needed for any of these spots.


In the Nairobi thread here on ISG there's not too much chatting in the last 6 months...You're joking, right?

[Martin00]

Report from the field, two nice massage parlors in Westfield located in the same first floor of same building, internal count at 15 Westlands Rd just in front of Grafins College. Enter the gate and walk 50 meters you'll see the usual SPA signs indicating a door, walk up 1 floor and two doors takes you to two different massage places. Basic massage 3 k or 5 k including sex. Possible also 2 times sex (without massage) for 5 k. Nice selection of ladies all sizes and shapes! All rooms have shower. I enjoyed both places.

[Martin00]

Tried Uptown Massage Spa Kilimani and good selection of ladies all shapes, beware they have a notice on November 1st they'll move to another location nearby in Kilimani. I asked for double shot with a petite lady and they quoted me 6 k and went ahead with it! Recommended for quick release or massage, they are open 24 h. Call for the new location after November 1st.

[BPalacio]

Planning on a trip to Thailand next January. After a couple weeks there, planning on visiting Kenya for a week in February. I really don't care about sightseeing or anything touristy- my only agenda is sleeping with curvaceous beauties. With that in mind, would I be better served staying in Nairobi for the week or should I make the trek down to Mombasa as well?

[Leblon]

Planning on a trip to Thailand next January. After a couple weeks there, planning on visiting Kenya for a week in February. I really don't care about sightseeing or anything touristy- my only agenda is sleeping with curvaceous beauties. With that in mind, would I be better served staying in Nairobi for the week or should I make the trek down to Mombasa as well?Problem is traffic jams. You travel in Nairobi to airport, you spend time in traffic jam, or you go to airport early. You fly to Mombasa, then long time from airport to your hotel which is probably in Bamburi beach or Nyali or maybe Mwtapa.

You go back to Nairobi, you need to go Mombasa airport, traffic jam possibly, so you have to go early. Then in Nairobi, you are in traffic jam when you go to hotel.

Perhaps my information of Nairobi traffic jams is outdated, and this new road to airport is working well. But still, you spend two days of your week for this travelling to Mombasa and back. I would not do it myself. I used to visit Nairobi in my long Mombasa trips, to spend day or two in Nairobi nigt life. But I gave up because I spend too much time sitting in a car, especially in Nairobi.

Nairobi is more expensive than Mombasa, especially girls, and there is no ocean, but night life there is good and more action than in Mombasa. Maybe.

[Mombie75]

Traffic in Nbi has improved with the new road.

Also, when I fly to Nbi from Msa or vice versa I always get a late evening flight so you can miss the traffic in both. I have never taken more than 30 mins to get to or from an airport in Kenya from Central Nbi or Bamburi.

[Gesheft]

Greetings to all.

Great to be back in NBO since before Covid.

Nairobi is still IMHO the best for mongering.

Too many women so little time. I only had 5 days.

I had many lined up from Tinder.

1st was a mature lady (40+) - who was what I needed who hadn't been laid in years. She was just what I needed.

2nd. Massage place in CBD.

Note. That the Tubham Road building has gone.

There is a new walk in spa in the parallel road. Biashara Street. Market Mansion building (5th floor I think).

Or you can book via a whatsap agency.

I paid Ksh5 k for full service, a good selection of 10-12 girls, no clock watching. Good value.

Note. Walk in without the whatsap agency might be cheaper. Like Ksh 4 k.

I went with Nia (phone number on record) - gave pretty good full service.

3rd. Girl that was alone in the hotel bar at closing time. Ksh 4 k. Did for me just what I needed without any be / s.

So. No complaints & looking forward to next visit!

G.

[Mombie75]

Greetings to all.
1st was a mature lady (40+) - who was what I needed who hadn't been laid in years. She was just what I needed.
I paid Ksh5 k for full service, a good selection of 10-12 girls, no clock watching. Good value..Any number for the MILF? Be a good change from the 20's girls.

5 k got what exactly?

Asante.

[Bhatman]

Report from the field, two nice massage parlors in Westfield located in the same first floor of same building, internal count at 15 Westlands Rd just in front of Grafins College. Enter the gate and walk 50 meters you'll see the usual SPA signs indicating a door, walk up 1 floor and two doors takes you to two different massage places. Basic massage 3 k or 5 k including sex. Possible also 2 times sex (without massage) for 5 k. Nice selection of ladies all sizes and shapes! All rooms have shower. I enjoyed both places.Thanks very much for the information. Tried one of those spas (Pucolin Spa) and had a great session with a real spinner named Clare. Highly recommended. Costs in line with what you report. Rooms were clean. Was introduced to around 6 or 7 girls who were all quite reasonable.

[SceticoBlu]

Hello collegues, how was the massage at Pucolin from the therapeutic aspect?

[Azeb 411]

I am planning now for a trip around some EAfrica countries after a long break due to Covid.

I like to get numbers & meeting arranged in advance and so I invested in a month of Tinder.

I advise my exact intentions up front and the response is like 90% positive.

(and I am not a young stud).

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

G.LMAO. You duncess never learn, you go to some website pick supermodel lookalikes who are using fake photos and expect to fyck them on arrival, because tbey are in your mind poor and desperate girls who need a white man to seave them, then you want to oay just $20?

I can assure you those are fake picture being used, but you know what they say a fool and his money are soon parted.

[Azeb 411]

Here are some pics of what I have lined up.

I also like to check out MPs. - which google maps seems to provide contacts.

I will report here and in other cities to provide all the details.

Cheers.

LMAO another gullible muzungu seduced by fake profiles on sites and the dream of fucking every stunning girl he meets in Africa.

You have "lined them up" to be £ucked for $5 a night and some cheap $store perfumes?

Trust me you will never met these girls, do a reverse image search and see what you come up with.

If these girls are real, they would be taken and kept by the local politicians who can spend $5,000 a month on his harem, not whoring on fuck sites for $20.

[SceticoBlu]

A videocall in advance is the way to go.

Trying out Tinder since some weeks I met a few 19-25 stunners who were the person from the pics. But they wanted a muzungu for a relationship and longterm promotion. Innocent shy ones did not come to my place. So they cost me at least a milkshake at Java. They would readily consume more.

The more experienced ones ask for Ubermoney in advance which I am not ready to give. When I told one to use a matatu she laughed at me.

So for me it is to early to give my final verdict on Tinder. But is not a means to find stunners for 20 USD fun and who do not bother you further.

[Rwenotmen]

LMAO. You duncess never learn, you go to some website pick supermodel lookalikes who are using fake photos and expect to fyck them on arrival, because tbey are in your mind poor and desperate girls who need a white man to seave them, then you want to oay just $20?

I can assure you those are fake picture being used, but you know what they say a fool and his money are soon parted.I wouldn't have been as harsh, but. Yeah, got to agree. Those pics are obviously fakes. Isn't the big-tit-chik known on OF as (something) theGreat??

In fairness, DarrenGap already pointed this out, first,.

And Brother Gesheft is an old-hat mongerer, he should know better to fall for such catfishing.

[Rwenotmen]

A videocall in advance is the way to go.

Trying out Tinder since some weeks I met a few 19-25 stunners who were the person from the pics. But they wanted a muzungu for a relationship and longterm promotion. Innocent shy ones did not come to my place. So they cost me at least a milkshake at Java. They would readily consume more.

The more experienced ones ask for Ubermoney in advance which I am not ready to give. When I told one to use a matatu she laughed at me.

So for me it is to early to give my final verdict on Tinder. But is not a means to find stunners for 20 USD fun and who do not bother you further.Agreed. 100%.

Point is, Tinder & Whatsapp cuts down on the bullsiht that many of these girls play, especially the catfishing. So you actually proved the tools work!

(1) As you discovered, the biatches that want Uber / Bolt fare - **upfront** -- yeah, they can go fcuk themselves. Laugh at that, chica! She saved you from her later nonsense. (They are so greedy, they didn't even negotiate to have the fare paid for when she arrives.) BYE! I'll spend that money on someone who's not a joker.

(2) Girls who are at least honest upfront about wanting friendship "first", then straight to a "relationship" (what they really mean is "Marriage" - they really think a White Saviour is going to rescue them). Those ladies, I actually respect. I let them down easy, tell them that's not what I'm interested in. Then I move on to prospects who know the score.

Agreed-- if the cost of meeting such ladies is a milkshake or a cup of Java House (and give them another chance to earn some money -- they can wait for their "Soulmate" another day), then it's not a total loss.

As for the Price to Pay-to-Play, to each his own. If someone wants cheap pussy, let them go to eg Sabina Joy. Have fun! Not ME! But also, I ain't paying 10K or more either. Which we know some members on here have been doing, even if they don't admit it.

[TailPipe]

I want to book a flight with a 15 h stopover in Nairobi. Is there any way to go to a hotel to get a night sleep? I will not have a visa as my final destination is outside Kenya.

[BionicMan]

I want to book a flight with a 15 h stopover in Nairobi. Is there any way to go to a hotel to get a night sleep? I will not have a visa as my final destination is outside Kenya.Getting an e-visa is not a big issue but going to town, depending on the time, can take a chunk of your transit time. There should be nearby hotel in a range of a couple of km from the airport precinct. Spending the time in the airport is a no-go, both air and land side. Do you really need that route?

[Gesheft]

I wouldn't have been as harsh, but. Yeah, got to agree. Those pics are obviously fakes. Isn't the big-tit-chik known on OF as (something) theGreat??

In fairness, DarrenGap already pointed this out, first,.

And Brother Gesheft is an old-hat mongerer, he should know better to fall for such catfishing.Thanks pal. Indeed I have been there and done that since the 90's in this part of the world.

Tinder is fun to pre-screen and the pics I posted were really to show what is being used these days.

Ie. Not too many pics are posted here these days. So I wanted to liven up the forum with some illustrations.

FYI Those that I did meet I checked out in video calls in advance.

G.

[Bhatman]

Hello collegues, how was the massage at Pucolin from the therapeutic aspect?It was actually quite good. Offered level of massage chose medium. Not really RMT but very receptive to suggestions.

[ChipBbw]

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.

[Mombie75]

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I am not into skinny / petite girls.You do see many overweight people in east Africa but that is not to say they are not there. I have never been to west Africa but they do tend to be bigger people that side of the continent.

[Leblon]

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.I don't understand what your name means. Bb means big bottom? So is there big bottom ladies in Africa? You can safely go to any black African country, majority of the women has big bottom. Skinny / petite ladies are a minority. Maybe Somalia and South Sudan not, but you should not go to either countries anyway, too dangerous.

In Kenya, if you go to place where musungus meaning us white people go, you can get wrong impression. In Mombasa, all the skinny / petite girls go to these places because they know that we musungus like slim girls, most of us. African men like mostly big girls, slim girls are not considered as pretty. Luckily we musungus are here to like them.

Kenya / Nigeria / Ghana, consider other variables like costs and so on, you don't have to worry about finding large ladies, they are everywhere. It is us slim lady lovers who have more problems finding girls in Africa.

[Slowalk]

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.North, East, South, West, it doesn't matter where you go on Subsaharan Africa, being called a fat woman is a compliment. African men generally want BBW with enormous asses. They don't even look at her face. No country is better than another.

[Zakmo]

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.A few pointers. While African men do tend to prefer thicker women, it's a region by region thing. The slim, pretty look with modest curves (slim thick) is always a winner. All this "If she has a big ass then African men" will jump to her is an exaggeration.

My main advice, if you like thick, curvy women then South Africa will be your best bet. Ghana is good too, but pound for pound South Africa is the best and easiest to navigate.

If I were you, I'd focus on.

South Africa

Uganda.

Kenya.

Ghana.

Those will be be your three key countries with South Africa taking the cake by quite some distance.

EDIT: Take a look through thread of different SA women on social media. These are the types of women you're looking for and SA has em in spades.

[Hcqygauqas]

Hi,

Does anyone know of any nice / upscale guest friendly hotel in Westland? By nice I mean preferably 5 or 4 star hotel. Price is not really an issue. Thanks in advance!

[BlackbbwLover]

I am considering a trip to African, and as you can see from my name, I'm into larger ladies. I've read some of the reports / posts in the Kenya section, and they're encouraging, but I was wondering if say, Nigeria or Ghana might be better. I AM NOT into skinny / petite girls.I've been doing myself some research on this topic (mature black BBW women) and I think Ghana is your best choice. Nevertheless, my country of choice would be Ivory Coast, there is even a term for these women (apoutchou).

SA is very far away from me (I'm based in Belgium) and I think women there have big assets but they are rather ugly. I find Western African women far more attractive.

Enjoy your trip. BBWs are a lot of fun.

[Radical Guy]

I've been doing myself some research on this topic (mature black BBW women) and I think Ghana is your best choice. Nevertheless, my country of choice would be Ivory Coast, there is even a term for these women (apoutchou).

SA is very far away from me (I'm based in Belgium) and I think women there have big assets but they are rather ugly. I find Western African women far more attractive.

Enjoy your trip. BBWs are a lot of fun.I've been to Kenya numerous times, and have noticed that BBW's are in abundance. Personally, I'm more into the slim spinner types, but see the BBWs everywhere. I get messages from them all the time on Tinder.

[ChipBbw]

I think Ghana is your best choice.
I was thinking about Ghana, but it's not visa free.



Nevertheless, my country of choice would be Ivory Coast,
Have you been there? Are you speaking from personal experience?



SA is very far away from me (I'm based in Belgium) and I think women there have big assets but they are rather ugly.
I'm sure not all of them!



I find Western African women far more attractive.
So do I, and I'll certainly consider your recommendation. Thanks.

[SonicBoom1]

I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/ for just $5 for the ebook.

[Neddy69]

I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/ for just $5 for the ebook.Ah good. You don't need a night club to score. An old Africa operator scores EVERYWHERE. That's Africa. It's made for the great white hunter. The average drunk sex tourist will always get the expired leftovers. Or the overpriced slay queens. Just ride Matatus. You'll pick up loads of telephone numbers.

Mwalimu.

[JohnDarkSmith]

Any reports from a recent visit?

What are the clubs to go by night? Anything in Nairobi that would be similar to Casablanca in mombasa? (I kind of liked the place) A lot of posts but very few reports.

I'll be in mombasa next week but will try to spend a few days in Nairobi. I will see if I can provide you with a report.

[Ballin69]

Ah good. You don't need a night club to score. An old Africa operator scores EVERYWHERE. That's Africa. It's made for the great white hunter. The average drunk sex tourist will always get the expired leftovers. Or the overpriced slay queens. Just ride Matatus. You'll pick up loads of telephone numbers.

Mwalimu.I've seen this sentiment deep in the history of this thread as well as other African threads here. I'm experienced only in the club realms of Europe and Latin America, and having trouble visualizing what you mean by this. What I've gleamed so far from reading this thread, is that any girl in Africa is on the table. Does that mean when I'm in Africa, I can simply ask any girl I like how much? Or do I need to be more polite than that? Does it matter where? On the matatu, on the beach, in a fancy or cheap restaurant, with a man, with her children etc? Are there any courtesies that need to be observed while hunting in Africa?

Sorry if these questions don't make sense -- I have not been to Africa yet.

[Neddy69]

I've seen this sentiment deep in the history of this thread as well as other African threads here. I'm experienced only in the club realms of Europe and Latin America, and having trouble visualizing what you mean by this. What I've gleamed so far from reading this thread, is that any girl in Africa is on the table. Does that mean when I'm in Africa, I can simply ask any girl I like how much? Or do I need to be more polite than that? Does it matter where? On the matatu, on the beach, in a fancy or cheap restaurant, with a man, with her children etc? Are there any courtesies that need to be observed while hunting in Africa?

Sorry if these questions don't make sense -- I have not been to Africa yet.Yes. You answered most of your questions already. Be polite. Ask for her telephone number. In most cases you'll get it. Then fix a date. Drink a soda. Invite her to your lair for watching TV. Do the deed. After you hand over "Taxi money" in the region of 10 USD. Voila you're done. Repeat.

Mwalimu.

[Neddy69]

I've seen this sentiment deep in the history of this thread as well as other African threads here. I'm experienced only in the club realms of Europe and Latin America, and having trouble visualizing what you mean by this. What I've gleamed so far from reading this thread, is that any girl in Africa is on the table. Does that mean when I'm in Africa, I can simply ask any girl I like how much? Or do I need to be more polite than that? Does it matter where? On the matatu, on the beach, in a fancy or cheap restaurant, with a man, with her children etc? Are there any courtesies that need to be observed while hunting in Africa?

Sorry if these questions don't make sense -- I have not been to Africa yet.Ah. And download and read the book by small buns. There you'll find all the answers you need. Hilarious. Excellent training manual. Then book a flight to Nairobi. It'll change your life for ever. There's no turning back afterwards.

Mwalimu.

Who'll roam subsaharan Africa till my final breath.

[TrueGent]

Any reports from a recent visit?

What are the clubs to go by night? Anything in Nairobi that would be similar to Casablanca in mombasa? (I kind of liked the place) A lot of posts but very few reports.

I'll be in mombasa next week but will try to spend a few days in Nairobi. I will see if I can provide you with a report.It depends how big your balls are. When I took a trip las time I frequented Sabrina Joy then you get another place on the opposite side of the block. From there you can venture down Luthuni Ave then turn left on River road and another left on Latema road. If you see a stairway going up with music coming out you are more than likely in the right place. Several of these dotted around the route. I took frequent trips, never at night tho as my balls are not that big. You will get some looks as Mzungus in these places are rare. The pic included was one of the more popular ones with some nice ladies. On River Road.

[JohnDarkSmith]

It depends how big your balls are. When I took a trip las time I frequented Sabrina Joy then you get another place on the opposite side of the block. From there you can venture down Luthuni Ave then turn left on River road and another left on Latema road. If you see a stairway going up with music coming out you are more than likely in the right place. Several of these dotted around the route. I took frequent trips, never at night tho as my balls are not that big. You will get some looks as Mzungus in these places are rare. The pic included was one of the more popular ones with some nice ladies. On River Road.Well thanks! .

[Ballin69]

I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/ for just $5 for the ebook.I read on another post somewhere that it was possible to read the first couple pages before purchasing. Do you know how I can read a sample of his book?

[JohnDarkSmith]

I went through the advised path and Sabina pub was the funniest. All types of talents in, girls for all tastes.

It was Tuesday and still found the place pretty busy to be honest.

I ventured to a few other clubs but only the classic club vip was truly busy (even in the afternoon).

There are some SW on river road and adjacent street but I would advise avoiding that option.

I just had a few chats and enjoyed some company in Sabina, so I won't extend as there is not much more to say. Just be mindful of the situation at all time as these kind of places can quickly lead to a few rip off.

[Neddy69]

I read on another post somewhere that it was possible to read the first couple pages before purchasing. Do you know how I can read a sample of his book?I just finished reading. Best book hands down for sexploration of Africa. Very saucy without beeing sleazy. Explicit. A MUST READ. This book will save you a lot of time and hassle. What you want to sample? The book is 5 quid but worth it's money in GOLD. I devoured it in 2 days. While most of it I know already, this book is a must read for anybody who ventures the first time into the dark continent. Its 90% Kenia but great fun I definitely have to go for this "massage" Ugandan style. Amazing. Men can actually squirt too. And I definitely go to the Massai Mara. LOL. Great insight in the sexual practices of all major Kenyan tribes. 5 stars out of five. Great writing style.

Mwalimu.

[John Auro]

I read on another post somewhere that it was possible to read the first couple pages before purchasing. Do you know how I can read a sample of his book?Don't worry about the 5 Euro! I just bought it and it seems to be a very good written book, for us Mongers, Just buy it.

Auro.

[Albert9989]

Don't worry about the 5 Euro! I just bought it and it seems to be a very good written book, for us Mongers, Just buy it.

Auro.I confirm, he wrote two new books, one about East Africa and another one about Congo.

Don't hesitate to buy both, still so well written and nice hot stories about Africa!

Hope to see new ones again.

[JoeF479]

I couldn't find "smallbuns" on the forum but I am truly enjoying the book. I've been to Kenya many times myself. I met a non-pro about 12-13 years ago thru work related stuff, after talking online for many months and inviting her to the US, she said she would only come if I went to Kenya first. It was my first time leaving the US and I went to Kenya totally by myself. Probably not very smart of me but thankfully she was an amazing woman and we eventually married and had a child together. She was 10 years younger than me and is still amazingly beautiful. She never asked me for anything and to this day hardly asks for anything and we have an amazing life together, married for almost a decade now. LOL I acknowledge being a total degenerate before I met her and I've tried to slow down, but I have been increasingly successful financially since meeting her so that has made it harder to quit exploring other women. I know I'm a terrible person.

Anyway really enjoying the book, although I have only had sex with 1 other woman in Kenya, I have had many similar experiences there of the non-sexual related kind.


I am not being paid anything to promote this book. I just am a huge fan of this book and sharing it with fellow hobbyists.

Forum senior member at smallbuns has written a second book on his Eat. Fuck. Love series. This book details his adventures in Kenya and Tanzania over trips that spanned 7 years in vivid details. He has shared several naughty episodes with girls, in both urban and rural settings. Like skinny-dipping in lakes and ponds, with girls taking it for granted that he will be fucking them eventually, even leading him towards it. There are stories or like aunts and sisters (and brothers!) offering him to meet the girls, in one case a brother actually patiently waits outside the house so smallbuns can finish fucking the sister!

He recounts experience of fucking students and teachers in a vocational college, and picking up girls in crowded minibuses and even gas stations! On one occasion he shares a bus full of chickens and farm animals, befriends his fellow passenger, and fucks her as soon as they disembark.

He details sceneries of the African safari life, of being a vegetarian, and the cultural differences.

Highly recommend this book! Its available at https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Love-Enlightening-Epiphanies-Savannah-ebook/dp/B0BQ53CKVN/ for just $5 for the ebook.

[Zimzam]

Don't worry about the 5 Euro! I just bought it and it seems to be a very good written book, for us Mongers, Just buy it.

Auro.I'm trying to buy the ebook at amazon, but for some reason I can't manage to get it.

They want me to become a member of Kindle or something like.

Can I only get this ebook only when I am a member of Kindle.

[ThighsFan]

I am reliably informed The Boss Den / Black Diamond has still got plenty to offer at the weekends at present. Unsure about weekdays. Any updates?

The new Kiza strip club in Kilimani is attracting both locals and foreign patrons especially at the weekends. I have little information at present but its a place for those who like booty.

Brew Bistro (Westlands) is also offering some weekday and weekend opportunities.

Happy hunting.


Any reports from a recent visit?

What are the clubs to go by night? Anything in Nairobi that would be similar to Casablanca in mombasa? (I kind of liked the place) A lot of posts but very few reports.

I'll be in mombasa next week but will try to spend a few days in Nairobi. I will see if I can provide you with a report.

[ThighsFan]

Mwalimu's formula is pretty straightforward, fair and should prove successful.

Don't meet around lunch or supper time to avoid having to fund dining. Unless you are happy to provide.

That said, if you meet in a local joint the cost of a mishkaki and chips could be worth it.


Yes. You answered most of your questions already. Be polite. Ask for her telephone number. In most cases you'll get it. Then fix a date. Drink a soda. Invite her to your lair for watching TV. Do the deed. After you hand over "Taxi money" in the region of 10 USD. Voila you're done. Repeat.

Mwalimu.

[Slowalk]

Don't meet around lunch or supper time...Unless you catch her just after a rare large meal, its been my experience that she can always eat. Avoiding set meal times is western thought.

[Neddy69]

Unless you catch her just after a rare large meal, its been my experience that she can always eat. Avoiding set meal times is western thought.There's no need to wine and dine an African girl at an expensive restaurant. Unless she's in the finer things in life. Which usually are refined hoes with a high price tag. A normal African girl LOVES chicken and chips. Take her to a fast food joint. Why? They cannot usually afford that. For them it's a luxury item.

Funny enough. If on rare occasions I'm generous inviting my chica for lunch in Madagascar. What do they order? Chicken and chips.

Mwalimu.

[Kako123]

Yes but fast food chain Lagastronomie is not that cheap in Madagascar Though in Nairobi good restaurants are really expensive! There is a lot of money in Nairobi for sure.


There's no need to wine and dine an African girl at an expensive restaurant. Unless she's in the finer things in life. Which usually are refined hoes with a high price tag. A normal African girl LOVES chicken and chips. Take her to a fast food joint. Why? They cannot usually afford that. For them it's a luxury item.

Funny enough. If on rare occasions I'm generous inviting my chica for lunch in Madagascar. What do they order? Chicken and chips.

Mwalimu.

[Absolute757]

Nairobi is awesome. Recently stayed in the Kilimani area which is where a lot of high rise condos are. A lot of foreigners stay in this area and at night you will see a few girls on the streets. Its an upscale area like westlands but not as pricey. A lot of massage parlors around. 1 is just a block from the airbnb I stayed at. Paradise spa. Walk in pay 3 k for an hour. Than they send you a line up to choose from. Massage was lame and I just told her I wanted a BJ. I payed 3 k extra for bbcim. She asks for a tip its up to you. I found 3 k to be the standard for ST all around and 5 k for the super hot chicks on tinder. Although some will quote more. One thing I like about east africa is that polygamy is the norm there and the women understand if you tell them you see multiple women.

Anyways I want to plug this guys Airbnb because it was only place with a king bed and AC and the manager was cooler than most. The place had copl LED lighting that you could change the color and set the mood with.

airbnb.com/ h / b607.

[Absolute757]

Nairobi is awesome. Recently stayed in the Kilimani area which is where a lot of high rise condos are. A lot of foreigners stay in this area and at night you will see a few girls on the streets. Its an upscale area like westlands but not as pricey. A lot of massage parlors around. 1 is just a block from the airbnb I stayed at. Paradise spa. Walk in pay 3 k for an hour. Than they send you a line up to choose from. Massage was lame and I just told her I wanted a BJ. I payed 3 k extra for bbcim. She asks for a tip its up to you. I found 3 k to be the standard for ST all around and 5 k for the super hot chicks on tinder. Although some will quote more. One thing I like about east africa is that polygamy is the norm there and the women understand if you tell them you see multiple women.

Anyways I want to plug this guys Airbnb because it was only place with a king bed and AC and the manager was cooler than most. The place had cool LED lighting that you could change the color and set the mood with.

airbnb.com/ h / b607.

[AttilaTheHun]

Yes but fast food chain Lagastronomie is not that cheap in Madagascar Though in Nairobi good restaurants are really expensive! There is a lot of money in Nairobi for sure.Kuku with chips cost you 1000 KES about 7. 5 US in Nairobi, a decent place (not street).

[Sjonnie39]

A small trip report.

Where Kampala was the city of guns on every corner of the street and shaded police officers in vans with sirens blazing by, Dar the town of adding a "why" behind every word "friendy", "hotely" and monks on the street. Nairobi is that of absurdly pimped busses with up to 7 LCD screens and deafening speakers playing Reggae and Hip Hop (which I love but they never really have my songs). I might have encountered a working radio in Kampala once, in Dar they had some sound but no screens.

What outrages me is the price of the boda's in Nairobi. 1 k UGX per km equals about 500 TSH per km, here they ask tripple rate of 100 BOB per km. This makes things difficult. It forces you to stay in CBD near the bus terminals and jump a bus with your date.

Price of the food and medicine stays the same, a kg of meat is half price in Kampala though. In Dar they don't sell pork in the supermarkets.

A BBBJ goes for 1500 BOB in Sabina Joy or 1000 BOB on the street. A quickie with condom also goes for 1 k on the street. Full service incl BB 2 to 3 k on the street. 3 k for full service in Sabina Joy.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.

-End of Luthili Avenue towards River Road there's some low class brothels New Amar and Ricoz. Right there at Kamae Rd is another one. Small World Waters is a fun stripclub, they really grind your cock with their bare pussies. Kitale and New Nyanza here are closed.

-Another cluster is Liddos, Gabeez and Bavon. Liddos has the hottest strippers in town, if you want any chance at firm young titties go here.

-River Rd from Luthili Avenue to Latema Rd are several brothels and streetwalkers. Saturday afternoon seems booming. Rooms are 200 BOB, BJ or quickie with condom 1 k, BB 2 to 3 k. I'm not sure if there were ever a Tea Room or Nyandarua Lodge but here's 5 low class brothels on River, Duruma and Ngariama Rd.

-Sabina Joy is not a stripclub but a lounge / bar with up to 30 girls present for company. Rooms in the back for 300 bob, in the front for 1000 bob. 1500 bob for a BBBJ and 3 k for full service.

-Arghwing Kodhek Rd starting at Woodlands Lane up to Elgeyo Rd are some streetwalkers dressing well. 10 pm is a good time.

-Westlands. I arrived at Black Diamons at 9 pm to find a single unattractive WG. A hike over Westlands Rd was deserted to turn left on Chiromo Lane where there's some WG's up untill K1 (arrived at 10 pm). I should give Brew Bistro and Black Diamonds another try at 12 pm.

-Ngara. Park Rd has streetwalkers. Kipkabus Safari Club was nearly empty and Samma Rays closed.

-Internet dating: WTF?! After two weeks on Badoo and Tinder I got five offers for a 5 k hookup, which is 150 k UGX. No thanks.

I enjoyed some lapdances which weren't there in Dar and Kampala. I like to get a BBBJ on River Rd brothels or Sabina Joy, these were scarce in Dar.

Sinza was the hood of perfect firm young titties, Kampala of a second round with ST. In CBD there's stripclubs and you can get some easy BBBJ.

I'm busy digging in estates, the price is right but where are the young girls?!

[Sjonnie39]

I didn't really feel like talking about politics but since nobody's mentioned it. There's demonstrations going on in Nairobi, yesterday was the second day and they have been announced every Monday and Thursday. Both days I saw riot police and last week I got some smoke or teargas in my eyes twice, didn't see the crowd myself.

Shops are closed after the demonstrations.

[Sjonnie39]

I don't want to insult anyone but so far I have arrived in "mom town". You don't exactly go into city center in Dar for young firm tits either so I won't give up yet.

Liddos has some hot young girls but they're too up market for me. I was really spoiled in Kampala and Dar, I'm not going back here unless I find a decent location, the Sinza of Nairobi.

Which time? Which location or bar? I've been trying to cover ground for two weeks now going through my "amazing site-scrape" I posted months back. I can't say I really found that location yet, every estate I visit costs me a BJ on boda and bus money.

Where are the young girls?

[EdenOdow]

Nairobi is awesome. Recently stayed in the Kilimani area which is where a lot of high rise condos are. A lot of foreigners stay in this area and at night you will see a few girls on the streets. Its an upscale area like westlands but not as pricey. A lot of massage parlors around. 1 is just a block from the airbnb I stayed at. Paradise spa. Walk in pay 3 k for an hour. Than they send you a line up to choose from. Massage was lame and I just told her I wanted a BJ. I payed 3 k extra for bbcim. She asks for a tip its up to you. I found 3 k to be the standard for ST all around and 5 k for the super hot chicks on tinder. Although some will quote more. One thing I like about east africa is that polygamy is the norm there and the women understand if you tell them you see multiple women.

Anyways I want to plug this guys Airbnb because it was only place with a king bed and AC and the manager was cooler than most. The place had cool LED lighting that you could change the color and set the mood with.

airbnb.com/ h / b607.The link isn't working for the airbnb can you repost or pm me. I would love to stay there.

[Slowalk]

Where are the young girls?You mean 18 and over?

Sorry I can't help much with Nairobi. I never had much luck at night in Kenya. Its mostly men or men with their mistresses at nightclubs. I've only lived here 1-1/4 years but I haven't been to northern parts of Mombasa which has a foreign presence. Out in western Kenya, daytime is the best time to meet new ladies walking home. The best times are 4-6 after work and Sundays coming from church. Once you get her number, you will have trouble getting rid of her. She wants you the first opportunity.

I saw an add for Klub Image Thika on one of the social media apps for bikini twerking contests, pole dancers and ladies nights. But Thika is NE of Nairobi CBD and I'm not sure if I would trust those adds. Ask your hotel valet / security if they know. You might have luck asking boda boda or taxi drivers.

[BionicMan]

I didn't really feel like talking about politics but since nobody's mentioned it. There's demonstrations going on in Nairobi, yesterday was the second day and they have been announced every Monday and Thursday. Both days I saw riot police and last week I got some smoke or teargas in my eyes twice, didn't see the crowd myself.

Shops are closed after the demonstrations.President hasn't fulfilled his el3 ction campaign promises ref food prices (increasing) and people protests.

[Neddy69]

I don't want to insult anyone but so far I have arrived in "mom town". You don't exactly go into city center in Dar for young firm tits either so I won't give up yet.

Liddos has some hot young girls but they're too up market for me. I was really spoiled in Kampala and Dar, I'm not going back here unless I find a decent location, the Sinza of Nairobi.

Which time? Which location or bar? I've been trying to cover ground for two weeks now going through my "amazing site-scrape" I posted months back. I can't say I really found that location yet, every estate I visit costs me a BJ on boda and bus money.

Where are the young girls?In the good old times CBD was bustling. Just read my old posts. Nowadays? All the girls have smart phones. They hunker down at night at home. No need to dress up and look for men like in the old days. Nowadays you spread your pussy in the internet and there's loads of Western Idiots prepared to send over money. Westlands? Was never that good either. The only chance you have is hunting civilians in daytime. There's loads of pussy in need of funding.

There's no Sinza in Nairobi. I'f I were you I'd base myself near a big slum area. Usually around there's joints. But that strategy is only for experienced Africa operators. Liddos upmarket? Not while I was there.

Right now Nairobi is not a good place to be. It seems that the post election violence this time came very late LOL. Nothing special though. Always the same. Uhuru ransacked the treasury before he left office and left only spider webs for Ruto.

Mwalimu.

[Neddy69]

A small trip report.

Where Kampala was the city of guns on every corner of the street and shaded police officers in vans with sirens blazing by, Dar the town of adding a "why" behind every word "friendy", "hotely" and monks on the street. Nairobi is that of absurdly pimped busses with up to 7 LCD screens and deafening speakers playing Reggae and Hip Hop (which I love but they never really have my songs). I might have encountered a working radio in Kampala once, in Dar they had some sound but no screens.

What outrages me is the price of the boda's in Nairobi. 1 k UGX per km equals about 500 TSH per km, here they ask tripple rate of 100 BOB per km. This makes things difficult. It forces you to stay in CBD near the bus terminals and jump a bus with your date.

Price of the food and medicine stays the same, a kg of meat is half price in Kampala though. In Dar they don't sell pork in the supermarkets.

A BBBJ goes for 1500 BOB in Sabina Joy or 1000 BOB on the street. A quickie with condom also goes for 1 k on the street. Full service incl BB 2 to 3 k on the street. 3 k for full service in Sabina Joy.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.

[Kako123]

What are bongo disco busses??


Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.

[Rwenotmen]

What are bongo disco busses??Mwalimu has been to so many countries, he's mixing terms, LOL. He means 'matatus', the privately-owned public transit buses; but specifically the loud-music & colorfully-painted minibuses, they look like this: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/matatu-culture-nairobi/index.html.

[Rwenotmen]

Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.Baba Neddy, you're always recommending these residential areas, for years! But you know most members here, even if they went there, have no guidance on where to go--and tougher, where to stay in those hoods. Neither do I!

(When there, I stay at the house of friends. And I have no recommendations of pubs or clubs to try out).

In fact, next time I'm in eg Buru Buru, Donholm, Umoja, Eastleigh, etc, and I see this one mzee mzungu at night walking around or hangin' at some pub, I'll know it's you!

FYI folks, these areas are not specifically dangerous, actually the reverse: they are purely residential neighborhoods where the common working-men / women & their families live. So much so that if they see foreigners walking around in those hoods, it would be like seeing a traveling circus marching thru your own neighborhood.

[Rwenotmen]

The link isn't working for the airbnb can you repost or pm me. I would love to stay there.I'm not sure if we're allowed to post Abb links on here, so just go to any AirBbb listing then change the link number to 45112935.

[Rwenotmen]

Liddos has some hot young girls but they're too up market for me. I was really spoiled in Kampala and Dar, I'm not going back here unless I find a decent location, the Sinza of Nairobi.

Which time? Which location or bar? I've been trying to cover ground for two weeks now going through my "amazing site-scrape" I posted months back. I can't say I really found that location yet, every estate I visit costs me a BJ on boda and bus money.

Where are the young girls?No offense also!

Wait, are you the guy I replied to back months? -- http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2709479#post2709479.

If you think Liddos is upmarket, my guy!: where are you from? I'm going to guess, you're UG or TZ? As you know, Nairo ain't Dar or Kampala -- that's like comparing New York City to the largest cities in Kentucky and Nebraska!

As for the young chicas, like Mwalimu Neddy pointed, you got to join the 21st Century: such girls are on 'social media' apps. And with the tough economy and the destruction of the pickup joints in CBD, they stay at home and 'work' their local areas. Thankfully, that makes them more willing to trek over to a mzungu's place. If the money's right!

The days of the adventurous being in CBD are over (and they don't want to be seen hanging with some old w. Guy in the glare of downtown! Except for those who Rate 6 and under--and those are in lowclass places like Sabina and River Road, where you've already been. And the girls on the apps want 'pesa mwingi' - mucho deniro. Much Money! They think being on the apps upscale their rates, heh.

If you want to stay in low range budget, and pretty looks ain't an issue for you, your best best is to stay at the shadier sides of town, CBD better that StreetWs, and hope some young things are available.

[Kako123]

Yes psycho bongo disco busses. Do you dare to ride? Haha.


Try Eastlands. If you have the guts that is. Transport. Yeah that's a major issue. I never bother with internet dating. There's enough running around in the streets in dire need of funding.

Try Buruburu they have real nice bongo disco busses. But you have to base yourself there.

Mwalimu.

[BionicMan]

Right now Nairobi is not a good place to be. It seems that the post election violence this time came very late LOL. Nothing special though. Always the same. Uhuru ransacked the treasury before he left office and left only spider webs for Ruto.

Mwalimu.Are the riots still going on? Any specific area of the city?

[Slowalk]

Are the riots still going on? Any specific area of the city?It was a government holiday, Monda and I didn't hear of any riots. I was told they are over with.

[CartMan50]

I've got a hernia so I'm not abusing anything, I'm using this for my good health and it works.

I bought Sustanon ampuls 1 ML in the pharmacies of Dar and Nairobi at about 7-10 USD. HCG5000 IU for 7-13 USD. Got it on prescription of the hospital but they don't ask for it. Tamoxifen is cheap, don't use it. Unfortunately I need some orals to go with it for it to really work.

In Dar I got some Anavar and Dianabol from trainers from the gyms and a nutrition shop. MediTech brand. Walk in the park, no problems.

Right now I'm in Nairobi. This has been my worst nightmare. I went to gyms in the worst parts in town, the best parts in town and far out of town. Tried stores on Jiji. All of a sudden this is a big mysterie, nobodies selling. Everyone is denying. Got fake Dbol capsules delivered, fake Winstrol capsules. Didn't pay. Nutrition stores in total denial as well. All of the guys I approached were obvious users, I'm not dumb.

Wtf am I going to do, where do I buy in Nairobi?! This is supposed to be this bad ass town sniffing glue and handing out gear like candy.

My last effort will be approaching some big guys in bars. I'm speechless.

Some help please.

[Slowalk]

Some help please.I'm not sure what you are asking for so this may just be useless.

For most medication:

In Kenya, go the Pharmacy, (Chemist), write down what you need and ask for it. You don't need a Dr's prescription.

If you don't know what you need, tell the Chemist your symptoms. You don't need a Doctor.

If you don't like that Chemist, go to a different one.

Some try to sell what you don't need, whatever they have on hand and / or overcharge you.

For Steroids:

Steroids are kinda Africa illegal.

Kinda Africa Legally, you need a Dr's prescription...

Show them your TZ or other prescription... or write it down yourself and hand it to the Chemist.

Some Chemist's write prescriptions.

[Amadeuss]

I've got a hernia so I'm not abusing anything, I'm using this for my good health and it works.

.Get an operation done. Most simple. Done in a day.

Swallowing pills will get you in the mad house after a while.

Get real man. Not be a dreamer.

[KennyEstate]

It was a government holiday, Monda and I didn't hear of any riots. I was told they are over with.Actually there were riots again on 2 may. I wouldn't stay home because of it but I suppose there will be more.

[KennyEstate]

It got such a bad name. I don't think it's that bad. Like in Kampala and Dar I visited most of the estates even the ones considered dangerous late at night. I certainly wasn't robbed at knife or gunpoint. Yeah like in the other towns they might try to pick pocket you, if someone starts walking close to you begging or whatever immediatly put your hands on your pockets. Sort of stick to the asfalt. Red light zones are always busy area's so more or less safe in my opinion.

I didn't like Airportzone Club red light area in Githurai 44 (it's called 45 here actually I think) but they had some ok looking girls. To much attention / harrassment being white. I was more comfortable walking around in the Mwananyamala red light zone in Dar.

That being said beggers in Nairobi have the nasty habbit of following you. They just don't give up and keep following you. I never snapped before but I snapped 3 times in Nairobi, just screamed to fuck off at the top of my voice boiling. This caused some shouting / aggression with 2 of them. This is the problem with Nairobi, just try to stay calm.

[KennyEstate]

The thing with all these reports is that we take different kinds of woman. This is my report, feel free to comment.

My favourite places are River Road brothels during the day, night streetwalkers on Arghwing Kodhek Rd and Nyama Village. Liddo's. The Kasarani brothel. Thika streetwalkers. I guess I did some in Sabina Joy but the girls are rarely hot, I walked out one time too many. I slept next to some streetwalkers, watched a movie, had chicken with fries. BB is a little less common in Nairobi could start at 2 k, 3 k is the price IMHO but a 10 k demand even on the streets is not unlikely.

So many massage places I guess, too expensive, didn't dig into it.

I like 25 k boiled eggs with some fine tomato / onion from the street stands. The chicken and fries snack bars are all ok but I prefered BBQ chicken legs in Kampala or even those glass case fly covered orange fried legs in Dar. The mango's and pine apple are great. Bus system in Nairobi is the best, no real jams, less walking. 7 k for a year of Karura Forest with Colobus monkeys roaming free.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.

-End of Luthili Avenue towards River Road there's some low class brothels New Amar and Ricoz. Right there at Kamae Rd is another one. Small World Waters is a fun stripclub, they really grind your cock with their bare pussies. Kitale and New Nyanza here are closed.

-Another cluster is Liddos, Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon. Liddos has the hottest strippers in town. (20+).

Liddos = 500 KES entrance fee - 600 KES Shot / lady drink - 400 k 2 xcola - 4500 KES ST Room - 1000 KES BJ Tip.

Still didn't get too visit Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon.

-River Rd from Luthili Avenue to Latema Rd and in Duruma Rd are several brothels and streetwalkers. Saturday afternoon seems booming. Rooms are 200 BOB, BJ or quickie with condom 1 k, BB 2 to 3 k. Older girls at night but some young gems 12 to 7 pm. All the talk about River Rd being dangerous and hiv infected, the truth is that a lot of these girls don't even BB or demand 5 to 10 k. Lot's of hotels in this street with tourists so not that dangerous either.

-I'm not sure if there were ever a Tea Room or Nyandarua Lodge but here's 5 low class brothels on River, Duruma and Ngariama Rd. Best time 5-6 pm.

-Sabina Joy is not a stripclub but a lounge / bar with up to 30 girls present for company. Rooms in the back for 300 bob, in the front for 1000 bob. 1500 bob for a BBBJ and 3 k for full service.

-More CBD Brothels:

2nd floor of Sunrise Hotel Keekorok Rd.

Lazarus Restaurant 2nd floor, many call girls have a room here.

-Arghwing Kodhek Rd starting at Woodlands Lane up to Elgeyo Rd are some streetwalkers dressing well. 10 pm is a good time. Girls in front of Blacky's Lounge.

-Westlands:

-Boss Den (former Black Diamonds): Just one WG at 9 pm but at 11.30 pm there were four, I liked two of them got the price down to 4 k but didn't agree on service.

-Havana had at least 5 girls at 12 pm but asking too much 150 USD. I have no idea why anyone would go for cranky pretentious like this.

-Brew Bistro had an ok WG willing to go for 4 k.

-K1: Was there on Thursday Reggae night. Found 4 girls walking around, the one I found attractive wanted 7 k for st.

-The Alchemist: 12 pm Thursday night, suspicious looking one in pretty dress doing some dance steps all alone. Approached her and was willing to go but didn't agree on service. Don't even know her price.

-Westlands Rd was deserted on 10 pm but after midnight a group of 5.

-Chiromo Lane has some WG's up untill K1 past 9 pm.

Massage: Black Diamond Mall Westlands near Aga Khan. Massage on 4th floor. 10 girls 3 k room 2 k handjob. There was another massage in Westlands or maybe even more than one.

None of the girls I found attractive enough in Westlands were willing to BB. With all the expensive drinks I have no idea why anyone would visit this estate. Maybe guys looking for older girls have a different experience.

Kilimani / Hurlingham / Thompson Estate:

Blacky'z: Girls in front and maybe 2 inside. Can bb for 3 to 4 k.

Onyx: Table with 3 hot students not going under 7 k for st.

Brew Bistro: Nothing.

Fine Breeze: Nothing.

-Ngara. Park Rd has streetwalkers. Kipkabus Safari Club was nearly empty and Samma Rays closed.

-Pipeline Embakkasi, in an unnamed street leading towards the way up to EA Aviation School from Airport and Rd, say between Regional Hotel and Outer Ring Rd there's two strip clubs. There's two holes in the Aston Villa area, druggies.

-Majengo and Shauri Moyo were a waste of time. Huruma at Kwa Mbuthia Bar in front and the back but why go here.

-Umoja / Kayole. Forget about the whole Pewa st, Club Paris, church area. It's Nyama Village, wg's and st rooms accros the road.

-Eastleigh is the Muslim estate, find yourself surrounded with burka's. At Mirangi Bar, girls in Burka's. Took a nice girl here twice but they more or less do missionary only. Foreskin comments. Muslim girls in Dar were more fun. 3 k for bb. Old internet articles tell of more in 1st to 12th street but found none. Stay away from Eastleigh unless you're a muslim.

-Kawangware. No idea, should be in the Zebra Bar area but nothing.

-Kasarani. Brothel left next to Switch Lounge.

-Githurai 45. Airport Club, on the alley / street leading around the club about 30+ prostitutes. Shit area to be white.

-Mlolongo. Matharau Street, In the two streets behind Continental Inn is an area with small alleys and rooms with girls sitting in front. 20+ prostitutes. Felt safe enough but no reason to return.

-Kibera. Went through all of Kibera Drive and visited The Garage Pub in the side street of Fort Jesus Stage but saw nothing.

-Thika. 100 ksh with the bus to Commercial Street in Thika centre. The northern end of Uhuru Street and the alley Uhuru Lane. ST hotel in the paralel street east next to Uhuru Street 200 ksh. Took a hot girl all night for 5 k with the bus back to my hotel. ST 2 k.

[KennyEstate]

Get an operation done. Most simple. Done in a day.

Swallowing pills will get you in the mad house after a while.

Get real man. Not be a dreamer.Come on man old timers are going to want some Sustanon and Sildenafil / Viagra for their peckers and Male Hypogonadism. Deca stack to keep them flexible and strong.

Had an amazingly succesfull shoulder operation but being into sport it caused me pain and misery for 20 years. Taking Deca now and it's over. Of course you need to know about food and eat your meat.

[KennyEstate]

Never had this issue in Kampala or Dar. Day time is no problem but at night the cops will stop you in CBD and ask for your papers and yellow vaccination booklet. Was led straight to an alley, I beat them to it and offered some money which clearly was their intention because there was no police station in this muddey lane. 10 k.

Second time I had my papers with me and could go.

[Amadeuss]

Come on man old timers are going to want some Sustanon and Sildenafil / Viagra for their peckers and Male Hypogonadism. Deca stack to keep them flexible and strong.

Had an amazingly succesfull shoulder operation but being into sport it caused me pain and misery for 20 years. Taking Deca now and it's over. Of course you need to know about food and eat your meat.Are you sure you know what you are talking about? You mentioned that you take pills to cure "Hernia"?

Silly.

[Rwenotmen]

<snip!>Wow, So little return for so much effort. But if that's what you want.

Why not just use apps? (yeah, I hate them too, but much more efficient) Or, use massage parlors know for P-2-P / happy endings?

[Drifter86]

If you get stuck, PM me.

Know a lady who has a lot of "friends" that are willing to help us out.

Varying from 4 K. Depending on cuteness, desire and time.

She's been pretty reliable for me so far.


Wow, So little return for so much effort. But if that's what you want.

Why not just use apps? (yeah, I hate them too, but much more efficient) Or, use massage parlors know for P-2-P / happy endings?

[GuyMan007]

This is a very comprehensive list. Very useful too. You my friend, are a good man.


The thing with all these reports is that we take different kinds of woman. This is my report, feel free to comment.

My favourite places are River Road brothels during the day, night streetwalkers on Arghwing Kodhek Rd and Nyama Village. Liddo's. The Kasarani brothel. Thika streetwalkers. I guess I did some in Sabina Joy but the girls are rarely hot, I walked out one time too many. I slept next to some streetwalkers, watched a movie, had chicken with fries. BB is a little less common in Nairobi could start at 2 k, 3 k is the price IMHO but a 10 k demand even on the streets is not unlikely.

So many massage places I guess, too expensive, didn't dig into it.

I like 25 k boiled eggs with some fine tomato / onion from the street stands. The chicken and fries snack bars are all ok but I prefered BBQ chicken legs in Kampala or even those glass case fly covered orange fried legs in Dar. The mango's and pine apple are great. Bus system in Nairobi is the best, no real jams, less walking. 7 k for a year of Karura Forest with Colobus monkeys roaming free.

-On Kenyatta Avenue between Koinange St and Wabera St. Turn into Webera St for some more. After 9. 30 pm some WG's may be walking through Koinange St.

-End of Luthili Avenue towards River Road there's some low class brothels New Amar and Ricoz. Right there at Kamae Rd is another one. Small World Waters is a fun stripclub, they really grind your cock with their bare pussies. Kitale and New Nyanza here are closed.

-Another cluster is Liddos, Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon. Liddos has the hottest strippers in town. (20+).

Liddos = 500 KES entrance fee - 600 KES Shot / lady drink - 400 k 2 xcola - 4500 KES ST Room - 1000 KES BJ Tip.

Still didn't get too visit Sabina's, Gabeez and Bavon.

-River Rd from Luthili Avenue to Latema Rd and in Duruma Rd are several brothels and streetwalkers. Saturday afternoon seems booming. Rooms are 200 BOB, BJ or quickie with condom 1 k, BB 2 to 3 k. Older girls at night but some young gems 12 to 7 pm. All the talk about River Rd being dangerous and hiv infected, the truth is that a lot of these girls don't even BB or demand 5 to 10 k. Lot's of hotels in this street with tourists so not that dangerous either.

-I'm not sure if there were ever a Tea Room or Nyandarua Lodge but here's 5 low class brothels on River, Duruma and Ngariama Rd. Best time 5-6 pm.

-Sabina Joy is not a stripclub but a lounge / bar with up to 30 girls present for company. Rooms in the back for 300 bob, in the front for 1000 bob. 1500 bob for a BBBJ and 3 k for full service.

-More CBD Brothels:

2nd floor of Sunrise Hotel Keekorok Rd.

Lazarus Restaurant 2nd floor, many call girls have a room here.

-Arghwing Kodhek Rd starting at Woodlands Lane up to Elgeyo Rd are some streetwalkers dressing well. 10 pm is a good time. Girls in front of Blacky's Lounge.

-Westlands:

-Boss Den (former Black Diamonds): Just one WG at 9 pm but at 11.30 pm there were four, I liked two of them got the price down to 4 k but didn't agree on service.

-Havana had at least 5 girls at 12 pm but asking too much 150 USD. I have no idea why anyone would go for cranky pretentious like this.

-Brew Bistro had an ok WG willing to go for 4 k.

-K1: Was there on Thursday Reggae night. Found 4 girls walking around, the one I found attractive wanted 7 k for st.

-The Alchemist: 12 pm Thursday night, suspicious looking one in pretty dress doing some dance steps all alone. Approached her and was willing to go but didn't agree on service. Don't even know her price.

-Westlands Rd was deserted on 10 pm but after midnight a group of 5.

-Chiromo Lane has some WG's up untill K1 past 9 pm.

Massage: Black Diamond Mall Westlands near Aga Khan. Massage on 4th floor. 10 girls 3 k room 2 k handjob. There was another massage in Westlands or maybe even more than one.

None of the girls I found attractive enough in Westlands were willing to BB. With all the expensive drinks I have no idea why anyone would visit this estate. Maybe guys looking for older girls have a different experience.

Kilimani / Hurlingham / Thompson Estate:

Blacky'z: Girls in front and maybe 2 inside. Can bb for 3 to 4 k.

Onyx: Table with 3 hot students not going under 7 k for st.

Brew Bistro: Nothing.

Fine Breeze: Nothing.

-Ngara. Park Rd has streetwalkers. Kipkabus Safari Club was nearly empty and Samma Rays closed.

-Pipeline Embakkasi, in an unnamed street leading towards the way up to EA Aviation School from Airport and Rd, say between Regional Hotel and Outer Ring Rd there's two strip clubs. There's two holes in the Aston Villa area, druggies.

-Majengo and Shauri Moyo were a waste of time. Huruma at Kwa Mbuthia Bar in front and the back but why go here.

-Umoja / Kayole. Forget about the whole Pewa st, Club Paris, church area. It's Nyama Village, wg's and st rooms accros the road.

-Eastleigh is the Muslim estate, find yourself surrounded with burka's. At Mirangi Bar, girls in Burka's. Took a nice girl here twice but they more or less do missionary only. Foreskin comments. Muslim girls in Dar were more fun. 3 k for bb. Old internet articles tell of more in 1st to 12th street but found none. Stay away from Eastleigh unless you're a muslim.

-Kawangware. No idea, should be in the Zebra Bar area but nothing.

-Kasarani. Brothel left next to Switch Lounge.

-Githurai 45. Airport Club, on the alley / street leading around the club about 30+ prostitutes. Shit area to be white.

-Mlolongo. Matharau Street, In the two streets behind Continental Inn is an area with small alleys and rooms with girls sitting in front. 20+ prostitutes. Felt safe enough but no reason to return.

-Kibera. Went through all of Kibera Drive and visited The Garage Pub in the side street of Fort Jesus Stage but saw nothing.

-Thika. 100 ksh with the bus to Commercial Street in Thika centre. The northern end of Uhuru Street and the alley Uhuru Lane. ST hotel in the paralel street east next to Uhuru Street 200 ksh. Took a hot girl all night for 5 k with the bus back to my hotel. ST 2 k.

[CarlRoss37]

Guys, I am in NBO end of May. Anyone with foot on the ground as wingman?

Had been there about 7 years back. From reports, seems a lot has changed since. There used to be a place in CBD where the WGs hang around. There was a popular drinking spot I am told there was some demolishing. Would be nice to know easiest path. I used to drive then as I stayed for a bit. Would it be necessary to rent a car or Uber can cut it. Any recommendations for the week? Any man on ground?

[MamaGuevos]

I need the advice of an experienced Kenyan mongerer.

In the Philippines, the girls on the dating sites (Pinalove, Dateinasia) often say "Serious only" and "No hookups" on their profiles. I notice that on Tagged, the ladies in Nairobi often do the same.

The funny thing is that in the Philippines, these disclaimers are virtually meaningless. They are there in case the girl is discovered by a family member or friend on the dating site. In that case, the ad looks like a serious dating ad, rather than an attempt by a pro or semi-pro to get a paid date. I have routinely ignored "serious only" and "no hook ups", and gotten laid by 90+% of these women.

What about the profiles on Nairobi dating sites. Are the girls who say "no hook ups" mostly available to hook up? Or are they serious about being "serious only"?

[Mombie75]

I need the advice of an experienced Kenyan mongerer.

In the Philippines, the girls on the dating sites (Pinalove, Dateinasia) often say "Serious only" and "No hookups" on their profiles. I notice that on Tagged, the ladies in Nairobi often do the same.

The funny thing is that in the Philippines, these disclaimers are virtually meaningless. They are there in case the girl is discovered by a family member or friend on the dating site. In that case, the ad looks like a serious dating ad, rather than an attempt by a pro or semi-pro to get a paid date. I have routinely ignored "serious only" and "no hook ups", and gotten laid by 90+% of these women.

What about the profiles on Nairobi dating sites. Are the girls who say "no hook ups" mostly available to hook up? Or are they serious about being "serious only"?In Kenya it is all about the money.

Some men they may try to hit fast and get some cash quickly and fuck the first night. Some, if they have a bit of income at that time, may play it cool and try to get you think they are a "good" girl and look at a longer game. They are trying to read you just as you are them when you meet.

It is all a game and you play it how it feels to you. Some you win and some you lose.

[Neddy69]

I need the advice of an experienced Kenyan mongerer.

In the Philippines, the girls on the dating sites (Pinalove, Dateinasia) often say "Serious only" and "No hookups" on their profiles. I notice that on Tagged, the ladies in Nairobi often do the same.

The funny thing is that in the Philippines, these disclaimers are virtually meaningless. They are there in case the girl is discovered by a family member or friend on the dating site. In that case, the ad looks like a serious dating ad, rather than an attempt by a pro or semi-pro to get a paid date. I have routinely ignored "serious only" and "no hook ups", and gotten laid by 90+% of these women.

What about the profiles on Nairobi dating sites. Are the girls who say "no hook ups" mostly available to hook up? Or are they serious about being "serious only"?They are meaningless in Kenia too. The only serious thing is money.

Mwalimu.

[SceticoBlu]

MamaGuevus, without meeting her you cannot be sure. There are many who really look for a relationship. I would not count much on what they write into their profile. Chating can be more revealing. If she calls you my dear or darling from the beginning take it as a hint she is a pro. That is what I have learned from Tinder.

[CarlRoss37]

If you get stuck, PM me.

Know a lady who has a lot of "friends" that are willing to help us out.

Varying from 4 K. Depending on cuteness, desire and time.

She's been pretty reliable for me so far.Hey Drifter86,

Care to share digits in my dm? I can give her a try.

[Conick2000]

In Kenya it is all about the money.What's the going rate out there?

[AttilaTheHun]

What's the going rate out there?Luhya girls on Badoo can be have for 1500 KES for ST and if you like her treat her with Kuku & Chips. You maybe be able to go down 1 k, but I never did.