Nairobi

[PierreSi]

Hello everyone,

I posted a question some time ago about massage places in Nairobi, CBD. Received some great advice, and ultimately decided to visit Crystal Massage in Biashara Street Market Mansion on the 4th floor (Biashara st). I had a very limited window, which is why I was not more adventurous. In hindsight, I wish I had tried the Sabrina Joy pub instead. Below is a quick summary of my experience.

Made an appointment for early on a Sunday (9 am) the night before using Whatsapp. Nice and easy and fast response. Number is readily available via google search. Walked through a fairly deserted downtown, through the open entrance and up the 4 flights. There were 2 decent looking women at the front desk, and as noted in other reviews they confirmed a flat rate and a choice of providers before anything happened. They did apologize that there were limited girls working at that time, but I couldn't wait for a better selection given my limited window. Three providers introduced themselves, starting with XXL, then XL, finally with L. Candidly 3-5 / 10 in terms of looks. Not a great start, but needs must. I prefer a S / M provider but settled for the L. Doris.

The room was small and sparse but clean. Gospel music from either the church downstairs or the radio was being piped in, which made the experience kind of surreal. Fairly standard massage and then a nice sensual soft touch before a CBJ, CG, K-9 and prone into the finale. I did get the sense that at least a BBBJ was on the table, but wanted to be careful. Overall, we got the job done and was a fun experience, but I wouldn't rush to repeat.

The price. Quoted before we started (I didn't bother to haggle) was 5. 5 Ksh including the massage.

[Drifter86]

Hey Drifter86,

Care to share digits in my dm? I can give her a try.I heard one of you guys is getting this tonight. Lucky bastard.

[Drifter86]

What's the going rate out there?Anywhere from 2 k to 20 k depending on the type of girl and service anal is extra.

[MamaGuevos]

I know this is the Nairobi thread, but there is almost nothing here elsewhere about Kisumu. Does anyone have any recent experience there? I have to visit for work in August, and I am trying to decide if I need to bring a girl from Nairobi with me or if there are opportunities there.

If you have been to Kisumu recently (as I read on the internet that much has changed since 2020), please speak up. Perhaps a discussion by PM would be best.

THANKS!

[Mombie75]

I know this is the Nairobi thread, but there is almost nothing here elsewhere about Kisumu. Does anyone have any recent experience there? I have to visit for work in August, and I am trying to decide if I need to bring a girl from Nairobi with me or if there are opportunities there.

If you have been to Kisumu recently (as I read on the internet that much has changed since 2020), please speak up. Perhaps a discussion by PM would be best.

THANKS!Simple. It is Kenya. Chat to women at shopping malls, on the street, in a bar.

[MamaGuevos]

Simple. It is Kenya. Chat to women at shopping malls, on the street, in a bar.I read on the internet that most of the bars with girls (including the one strip joint) were shut down a few years ago. I work during the day, which makes the malls impractical. Meeting girls on the street.

Of course, I only need one girl each day, but if anyone knows of good bars to meet ladies in Kisumu, please let me know. THANKS.

[Rwenotmen]

I read on the internet that most of the bars with girls (including the one strip joint) were shut down a few years ago. I work during the day, which makes the malls impractical. Meeting girls on the street.

Of course, I only need one girl each day, but if anyone knows of good bars to meet ladies in Kisumu, please let me know. THANKS.Poor Kisumu, it never was much of a City; now it's effectively a mid / small town. Even before Covid era.

Last updates I read about the place were from Brother Neddy, from (2?) years ago.

Can't help with bars (are there even any good ones?) or street pickups. The only option that ever worked for me was chatting girls via AfroIntroductions. You have to pay to unlock the chat feature, but you can buy like one week membership, once you can msg the girls, quickly get their whatsapp and then you're golden to arrange meetups & hookups at your leisure.

We should really be sharing interesting places to socialize in the town. There are only a few nice places, easy to get bored there in less than a week.

Be warned, since Kisumu is like a small town, your Tuesday girl may see you with your Wednesday pickup -- drama could ensue.

[SceticoBlu]

Kisumu is smaller and more relaxed than Nairobi. For dating girls it is nothing special. What you can always do is invite one for a boda trip to Dunga, eat fish together and be confident for more.

[MamaGuevos]

Kisumu is smaller and more relaxed than Nairobi. For dating girls it is nothing special. What you can always do is invite one for a boda trip to Dunga, eat fish together and be confident for more.Are the hotels in Kenya (most importantly Nairobi and Kisumu) girl friendly, or do I need to ask in advance about the policy?

I have mongered world wide, and this is rarely a problem. But on my last trip to Cochabamba Bolivia, I was told no guests allowed. At 1 am in the morning! It was hard to believe (especially as I had already brought girls back to my room, but always during the day).

[Leblon]

Are the hotels in Kenya (most importantly Nairobi and Kisumu) girl friendly, or do I need to ask in advance about the policy?

I have mongered world wide, and this is rarely a problem. But on my last trip to Cochabamba Bolivia, I was told no guests allowed. At 1 am in the morning! It was hard to believe (especially as I had already brought girls back to my room, but always during the day).My Cochabamba hotel allowed guests, and that local girl was very good. That was so many years ago.

I don't have current info about Nairobi, but before I went there for a work trip, and there were also hotels that did not allow guests. I found this out by calling to hotels that were given to me as choices to stay, from my company.

Just call your possible future hotel, and ask what is their guest policy. Tell them that you have several girl friends in the town, to find out if they only allow one girl to register.

Even in that hotel that I chose on that trip, girls were allowed like they told me in the phone call, but later I found that not after midnight, or I had to pay a room rate for a girl to sleep. So I had to take just short time girls.

So make a phone call or contact them by email, cheaper. Don't feel shy, they are used to answer this question.

[SceticoBlu]

Except some familiy oriented places on the beach of Mombasa there should be no problem with a female guest. To be sure confirm before booking.

[SceticoBlu]

Leblon is right. I had not read his post before writing. Some hotels want an upgrade to double room if she stays over night. But the beach resorts I mentioned don't want those couples at all especially with changing girls.

[Drifter86]

Kisumu is smaller and more relaxed than Nairobi. For dating girls it is nothing special. What you can always do is invite one for a boda trip to Dunga, eat fish together and be confident for more.I've been interested in Kisumu as well.

I've not yet been, so what you'll read below is not first hand.

As there are not many wazungu in Kisimu it is actually more difficult to find girls.

There are not as many clubs as in Nairobi and Mombasa and a lot of the really nice WG have moved to Nairobi and Mombasa because they have more work there.

Best place to find girls stays Tinder, but you will have change you're location to it before going and you should not expect as many matches as in Nairobi and Mombasa. As it seems you don't have so much time, I'the say, be direct and move to Whatsapp fast to avoid possible being blocked on Tinder.

For going out, it seems like the place to go is.

Friday and Saturday "Alleyways".

Sundays "La Place".

These are regular clubs though, so you would have to smell out the working ones.

Good luck and let us know what you've learned.

[Dick Milhous]

So make a phone call or contact them by email, cheaper. Don't feel shy, they are used to answer this question.Good advice, spent a few days here last month at the Boma on Red Cross Rd and was concerned it might be too conservative as it is essentially a subidiary of the Amer Red Cross. The manager said different check-ins nightly was not an issue as long as double occupancy was paid and that was good enough for me to come get my Kenya cherry popped. While there, I routinely paraded 3-4 girls daily with a different overnight each time. I'm going through girls for LTR prospects and am not F'ing all these girls; about half just some modest foreplay, a small stipend and out they go.

Current stay longer but this time at a little more upscale combined residential / hotel. I did not bother inquiring ahead but it has not crimped my habits. IDs are required so for a few I've had to walk outside to the gate and sign them in, but none have been refused. On just two occasions I commented it was for interview on a personal hire which is not exactly dishonest. Neither are "family oriented". I would be happy to tell them I will take my business elsewhere but of my grand total of two mid to upper range hotels, there have been zero issues.

As bad as things are economically here, neither of my first two picks for hotels this go were available for the period I was reserving for, maybe a divergent or parallel economy or something.

Climate is amazing in NBO this time of year and girls are amazing as well.

The dick.

[Gropai]

Is it easy to pick up girls in the malls or from the streets? Need your opinions. Thanks.

[Mombie75]

Is it easy to pick up girls in the malls or from the streets? Need your opinions. Thanks.Reasonably. I only ever do so this way as I do not go to clubs or use tinder etc.

[MamaGuevos]

Reasonably. I only ever do so this way as I do not go to clubs or use tinder etc.This sounds like a great way of avoiding hardened pros. I have three questions for you Mombie:

1. what malls near the CBD would you recommend as easiest for the newbie like myself?

2. Is this OK for Mzungus, or do you only recommend for Africans or African Americans?

3. Do you just chat the girls and invite them to hang out, or do you actually offer them money while you are in the mall?

I have been using tagged and I have found it relatively easy to get girls to agree to see me for a small reward. But I do not know yet if they will really arrive at my hotel when I get to Nairobi. The mall option sounds like a good "plan B (or maybe even plan A)".

[Mombie75]

This sounds like a great way of avoiding hardened pros. I have three questions for you Mombie:

1. what malls near the CBD would you recommend as easiest for the newbie like myself? / /.

2. Is this OK for Mzungus, or do you only recommend for Africans or African Americans? / /.

3. Do you just chat the girls and invite them to hang out, or do you actually offer them money while you are in the mall?

I have been using tagged and I have found it relatively easy to get girls to agree to see me for a small reward. But I do not know yet if they will really arrive at my hotel when I get to Nairobi. The mall option sounds like a good "plan B (or maybe even plan A)".Any of the malls. Westgate, the two on Ngong Road, Sarit centre or CBD itself. I just approach any girl I like and see any place, any time. I don't ask them right off the bat, take them for a drink and get the feel for if they are up for anything.

The online route, plenty will agree to meet but not all will turn up. Girls can be very busy hustling in Nairobi.

Also you will never know if any you meet are pros or not. Every single word they tell you will be lies.

[Mombie75]

This sounds like a great way of avoiding hardened pros. I have three questions for you Mombie:

1. what malls near the CBD would you recommend as easiest for the newbie like myself? / /.

2. Is this OK for Mzungus, or do you only recommend for Africans or African Americans? / /.

3. Do you just chat the girls and invite them to hang out, or do you actually offer them money while you are in the mall?

I have been using tagged and I have found it relatively easy to get girls to agree to see me for a small reward. But I do not know yet if they will really arrive at my hotel when I get to Nairobi. The mall option sounds like a good "plan B (or maybe even plan A)".By the way, Mombasa is the easiest place to get fast hook ups if your new to Kenya.

[MamaGuevos]

I applied for an eVisa, but did so rather late because my US passport did not arrive in time. If one does not have an eVisa at the time of checkin, will the airlines still permit you to travel to Nairobi? Is the immigration service there set up to let you get a visa on the spot?

[Neddy69]

I applied for an eVisa, but did so rather late because my US passport did not arrive in time. If one does not have an eVisa at the time of checkin, will the airlines still permit you to travel to Nairobi? Is the immigration service there set up to let you get a visa on the spot?No. The airline will NOT let you board. Now eVisa is back online.

Neddy.

[MzunguPaul]

Any of you guys ever try any of the apportments that are postedn on AirBnB. In particular the ones in Westlands. Seems like a good deal, and girl friendly for sure, right?

[BionicMan]

I applied for an eVisa, but did so rather late because my US passport did not arrive in time. If one does not have an eVisa at the time of checkin, will the airlines still permit you to travel to Nairobi? Is the immigration service there set up to let you get a visa on the spot?How can they let you check in if no visa (when required) is not with you? Check in is a couple of hours before departure. Do you think those 2 hrs will make a change?

It is airline responsibility to admit on board people with appropriate travel documents. If they fail, they will have to take you back with the first flight and pay a 5 k $ fine.

Depends on your nationality whether you can get a VoA.

[SceticoBlu]

Any of you guys ever try any of the apportments that are postedn on AirBnB. In particular the ones in Westlands. Seems like a good deal, and girl friendly for sure, right?I used Booking.com several times in Kenya and had mostly good experiences. Take those with many positive comments. Dont commit for long and in case you like it extend. Only don't leave valuables there for you can't never know who else has a key.

[MamaGuevos]

How can they let you check in if no visa (when required) is not with you? Check in is a couple of hours before departure. Do you think those 2 hrs will make a change?

It is airline responsibility to admit on board people with appropriate travel documents. If they fail, they will have to take you back with the first flight and pay a 5 k $ fine.

Depends on your nationality whether you can get a VoA.My visa application was submitted Saturday morning at 3 am Nairobi time and approved by 7 am EST (New York City time zone). The web site says they process visas "in real time", but I am guessing they do not work over the weekend. In short, it was very fast.

If only the US government could renew a passport in a few days!

[Rwenotmen]

My visa application was submitted Saturday morning at 3 am Nairobi time and approved by 7 am EST (New York City time zone). The web site says they process visas "in real time"


Remember the number one rule in Kenya.

Everything you are told is a lie.You were lucky, as it doesn't normally take that quick. The site was hacked few weeks ago; the executives must have (forced) the staff to work overtime to catch up the backlog.

[Rwenotmen]

Any of you guys ever try any of the apportments that are postedn on AirBnB. In particular the ones in Westlands. Seems like a good deal, and girl friendly for sure, right?Yes, some of us have; I have. RTFF, you'll find quite a few posts about Abb. Here, this'll get ya started: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2680240#post2680240.

Abb has an option to filter listings that have a flexible cancellation feature. If you're new to (anywhere, not just Kenya) I recommend initially booking such places because if you find the place is not for you, you can leave without hassle or fee.

By definition, all private apartments are girl-friendly, as you can bring whoever you want to the place.

[MamaGuevos]

These make a nice combination. First, Stanley seems very GF. One simply brought the girl to reception each night and she registered. There was no guest fee as I booked for 2 people and without breakfast (I am never up in time for breakfast anyway).

I scouted Tagged and wrote to girls whom I liked. These girls were all 21-27, all happy to do GFE except one was not fond of cunnilingus. The other said she had never given a blow job. She had expert technique on her first try! Hahaha. I repeated one night with the first girl.

I was there 4 nights and my last night I was ghosted by my third girl. All girls were thin bit big firm natural breasts. As the last girl did not arrive by 10 pm, I was tapped out with sex already 5 times in 3 days plus a BBBJ (I am in my late 60's). So I had a few drinks at the bar (no obvious working girls) and went to sleep.

My second girl will meet me when I get back. She claims to be bisexual and will be bringing a friend. I am not certain how the Stanley will deal with three girls but I am optimistic.

Sorry, I never got to check out the bar or brothel scene although I did drive past a bunch of street girls near the Stanley at 11 pm.

[Radical Guy]

These make a nice combination. First, Stanley seems very GF. One simply brought the girl to reception each night and she registered. There was no guest fee as I booked for 2 people and without breakfast (I am never up in time for breakfast anyway).

I scouted Tagged and wrote to girls whom I liked. These girls were all 21-27, all happy to do GFE except one was not fond of cunnilingus. The other said she had never given a blow job. She had expert technique on her first try! Hahaha. I repeated one night with the first girl.

I was there 4 nights and my last night I was ghosted by my third girl. All girls were thin bit big firm natural breasts. As the last girl did not artive by 10 pm, I was tapped out with sex already 5 times in 3 days plus a BBBJ (I am in my late 60's). So I had a few drinks at the bar (no obvioss working girls) and went to sleep.

My second girl will meet me when I get back. She claims to be bisexual and will be bringing a friend. I am not certain how the Stanley will deal with three girls but I am optimistic.

Sorry, I never got to check out the bar or brothel scene although I did drive past a bunch of street girls near the Stanley at 11 pm.In my experience, if a girl isn't fond of cunnilingus, she's either frigid as an ice cube or she never met a guy who could do it right. LOL.

[HappyFarang]

Hello, I am new on these forums. Nice to meet everyone here. I am planning my next holiday (in a couple of months maybe), which will be in Nairobi. I will stay for a couple of weeks. I want to make this holiday memorable and these forums are a goldmine of information. I am reading this thread when I have some free time, saving anything noteworthy in my notes taking application. I plan on giving back by reporting on my findings.

I am predominantly interested in meeting "normal" girls through online apps or by approaching them directly. I would also like to visit some massage parlours and strip clubs.

According to what I have collected so far, there are two areas where all the fun (including the best massage parlours) are located:

1) Between CBD (which, I figured, means Central Business District) and Sarit Centre. So Westlands area.

2) Kilimani.

If I wanted to get an AirBnB in one of these areas, which area is better? Which is safer?

If you have experience with AirBnB, I will be grateful if anyone can PM me with safe / tested places to stay that are girl-friendly!

[Helgi]

Hello, I am new on these forums. Nice to meet everyone here. I am planning my next holiday (in a couple of months maybe), which will be in Nairobi. I will stay for a couple of weeks. I want to make this holiday memorable and these forums are a goldmine of information. I am reading this thread when I have some free time, saving anything noteworthy in my notes taking application. I plan on giving back by reporting on my findings.

I am predominantly interested in meeting "normal" girls through online apps or by approaching them directly. I would also like to visit some massage parlours and strip clubs.

According to what I have collected so far, there are two areas where all the fun (including the best massage parlours) are located:

1) Between CBD (which, I figured, means Central Business District) and Sarit Centre. So Westlands area.

2) Kilimani.

If I wanted to get an AirBnB in one of these areas, which area is better? Which is safer?

If you have experience with AirBnB, I will be grateful if anyone can PM me with safe / tested places to stay that are girl-friendly!In particular, I would recommend a newbie to spend all or at least most of the time on the Mombasa North Coast (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). In Nairobi, mongering is much more difficult and due to the lack of sea and the environment of a dirty big city, I don't really feel like I'm on vacation.

[HappyFarang]

In particular, I would recommend a newbie to spend all or at least most of the time on the Mombasa North Coast (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). In Nairobi, mongering is much more difficult and due to the lack of sea and the environment of a dirty big city, I don't really feel like I'm on vacation.Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at £600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at £900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.

[Mombie75]

Hello, I am new on these forums. Nice to meet everyone here. I am planning my next holiday (in a couple of months maybe), which will be in Nairobi. I will stay for a couple of weeks. I want to make this holiday memorable and these forums are a goldmine of information. I am reading this thread when I have some free time, saving anything noteworthy in my notes taking application. I plan on giving back by reporting on my findings.

I am predominantly interested in meeting "normal" girls through online apps or by approaching them directly. I would also like to visit some massage parlours and strip clubs.

According to what I have collected so far, there are two areas where all the fun (including the best massage parlours) are located:

1) Between CBD (which, I figured, means Central Business District) and Sarit Centre. So Westlands area.

2) Kilimani.

If I wanted to get an AirBnB in one of these areas, which area is better? Which is safer?

If you have experience with AirBnB, I will be grateful if anyone can PM me with safe / tested places to stay that are girl-friendly!I use a cheap airbnb in town, it is clean and secure, around 3 k a night. I roam cbd or head out to shopping malls and just hit on anything I like, hows your luck? Easy to get to Westlands in a taxi 300 ks. Kilimani is a good area to stay as well.

I know nothing about massage parlours.

Normal girls? This is Kenya, you are never going to know what the girls does as everything they tell you will be lies.

[Mombie75]

Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at 600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at 900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.Get an internal flight from Nairobi to Mombasa. Kenya airways or Jambojet.

2 weeks in Nbi maybe tough going.

Everything is much easier in Mombasa, north coast areas of bamburi, nyali, shanzu and mtwapa.

[HappyFarang]

In particular, I would recommend a newbie to spend all or at least most of the time on the Mombasa North Coast (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). In Nairobi, mongering is much more difficult and due to the lack of sea and the environment of a dirty big city, I don't really feel like I'm on vacation.Hey you just changed all my plans.

Mombasa is not as bad as I was describing it. Flight is 12 hours, cost £550-650 in September and October.

I will start from zero with my research in the Mombasa forum. Thank you my mate!

If you have any advice for AirBnB in Mombasa and you have 2 minutes, please PM me. .

[DonJoh]

Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at 600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at 900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.You could fly to Nairobi and take the train to Mombasa, that way you get cheap airfare, and a cheap train ride through the scenery.

[Radical Guy]

Thanks for the advice. I will consider it, I would prefer to be near the sea. The reason I was considering Nairobi was the flight. Nairobi is 8-9 hours direct at 600-700. Mombasa seems to be 13-24 hours with one stop, and more expensive at 900-1200. I am going to thoroughly research flights and make a decision.I always fly into Nairobi, but then catch a 45-minute flight to Mombasa on Kenya Airways for 60 USD. Very easy and cheap.

[HappyFarang]

I always fly into Nairobi, but then catch a 45-minute flight to Mombasa on Kenya Airways for 60 USD. Very easy and cheap.That's great advice. Do you buy the tickets once you are in Nairobi? Or do you buy them in advance?

It looks like my messages need to be manually approved for now, which is why I am slow. There's another message awaiting approval where I replied to Helgi.

[Helgi]

That's great advice. Do you buy the tickets once you are in Nairobi? Or do you buy them in advance?

It looks like my messages need to be manually approved for now, which is why I am slow. There's another message awaiting approval where I replied to Helgi.The flights are cheaper if you buy them at least two or three weeks before. Just Google for the according Airlines and book on their websites:

(1) Kenya Airways.

(2) Jambojet.

(3) Skyward Express.

(4) Safarilink.

[TiVida]

Just arrived in Nairobi, will put up a trip report in due course. But for now asking if viagra or similar is available in pharmacies over the counter or if I need a prescription from a doctor.

[MamaGuevos]

Just arrived in Nairobi, will put up a trip report in due course. But for now asking if viagra or similar is available in pharmacies over the counter or if I need a prescription from a doctor.But, I had to go to two pharmacies to get a weeks supply.

Other prescription drugs, such as ambien or valium, require doctor's prescription. It is said that some pharmacists can prescribe, but I suspect it takes a lot of hunting to find one like that.

[Mombie75]

The flights are cheaper if you buy them at least two or three weeks before. Just Google for the according Airlines and book on their websites:

(1) Kenya Airways.

(2) Jambojet.

(3) Skyward Express.

(4) Safarilink.Be aware, Safarilink and Skyward use Wilson not Jomo.

[MamaGuevos]

Took four days in Kisumu for work. I met a 21 year old student on Tagged prior to my visit and she came to my hotel every night after work. We usually went two rounds at night and one in the morning. She complained a bit that it was too much sex, but she liked the room service and the ambience (not to mention the money, although she never once asked for money). The first day she refused BBBJ, but she was gradually convinced by day 2. Her blow job was outstanding, and suggested that she was actually experienced. On the other hand, she absolutely loved cunnilingus (what a hypocrite!). She had a way of secreting a taste free mucous when she came that I found remarkable. On my way back to the USA, I spent the afternoon and evening with a 23 year old woman from Nairobi to whom I had made plans before arriving in Kenya to spend a few days. In the end, I did not have the time for more than a few hours. She arrived nervous as hell. We went for drinks: I had whiskey and she had orange juice. However, when it came time to preform she was wonderful- total GFE. She loved DFK and cunnilingus but did not want to give BBBJ. We went two rounds and had a nice dinner together before she pushed off. We would have done a third round but I was out of energy.

Thus, in 8 days in Nairobi and Kisumu, I identified two completely GF hotels (Sarova Stanley and Imperial). I got 4 girls from Tagged, all of whom were willing to do multiple rounds, all of whom were seriously into DFK, but none of whom wanted to give blow jobs (although 3 of 4 ultimately were fine with it). This leads me to think that Kenyan women are not into BBBJ, but are ultimately willing to compromise when they get to know you. I might add that none of the women cared one way or the other if sex were raw.

Sorry I did not get a chance to check out the bar scene and report back. I did have a chance to stroll through a mall in Kisumu to test out the idea of picking up a girl. I passed a nail salon and chatted up a really sexy 20-something who was working there. After 10 minutes or so of flirting, she was anxious to give me her number so that we could get together after work. I was quite amazed as I am not Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and did not offer cash. Sadly, my evening was already taken. It is worth adding that several waitresses gave off an overly friendly vibe over the course of 8 days, but I never followed up with any of them.

I have spent time in Bangkok, the Dominican Republic, Brazil and the Philippines. Getting laid by 20 something "non-pros" in Kenya was the easiest in this group of monger-friendly countries. It is truly sad to be leaving so soon.

[Mombie75]

Took four days in Kisumu for work. I met a 21 year old student on Tagged prior to my visit and she came to my hotel every night after work. We usually went two rounds at night and one in the morning. She complained a bit that it was too much sex, but she liked the room service and the ambience (not to mention the money, although she never once asked for money). The first day she refused BBBJ, but she was gradually convinced by day 2. Her blow job was outstanding, and suggested that she was actually experienced. On the other hand, she absolutely loved cunnilingus (what a hypocrite!). She had a way of secreting a taste free mucous when she came that I found remarkable. On my way back to the USA, I spent the afternoon and evening with a 23 year old woman from Nairobi to whom I had made plans before arriving in Kenya to spend a few days. In the end, I did not have the time for more than a few hours. She arrived nervous as hell. We went for drinks: I had whiskey and she had orange juice. However, when it came time to preform she was wonderful- total GFE. She loved DFK and cunnilingus but did not want to give BBBJ. We went two rounds and had a nice dinner together before she pushed off. We would have done a third round but I was out of energy.

Thus, in 8 days in Nairobi and Kisumu, I identified two completely GF hotels (Sarova Stanley and Imperial). I got 4 girls from Tagged, all of whom were willing to do multiple rounds, all of whom were seriously into DFK, but none of whom wanted to give blow jobs (although 3 of 4 ultimately were fine with it). This leads me to think that Kenyan women are not into BBBJ, but are ultimately willing to compromise when they get to know you. I might add that none of the women cared one way or the other if sex were raw.

Sorry I did not get a chance to check out the bar scene and report back. I did have a chance to stroll through a mall in Kisumu to test out the idea of picking up a girl. I passed a nail salon and chatted up a really sexy 20-something who was working there. After 10 minutes or so of flirting, she was anxious to give me her number so that we could get together after work. I was quite amazed as I am not Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and did not offer cash. Sadly, my evening was already taken. It is worth adding that several waitresses gave off an overly friendly vibe over the course of 8 days, but I never followed up with any of them.

I have spent time in Bangkok, the Dominican Republic, Brazil and the Philippines. Getting laid by 20 something "non-pros" in Kenya was the easiest in this group of monger-friendly countries. It is truly sad to be leaving so soon.Yep. Kenyan women are very approachable and almost all up for some bedroom gymnastics, some the same night but you get them all in a short space of time if you play it properly. TIA or TIK.

[Radical Guy]

That's great advice. Do you buy the tickets once you are in Nairobi? Or do you buy them in advance?

It looks like my messages need to be manually approved for now, which is why I am slow. There's another message awaiting approval where I replied to Helgi.I have the Kenya Airways app. It's cheaper if you book in advance, once you have your international ticket to Nairobi. Make sure you give yourself some wiggle room in case your international flight is delayed. I generally arrive in Nairobi in the evening, so I book my Mombasa flight on Kenyan Airways for the next morning.

[TiVida]

But, I had to go to two pharmacies to get a weeks supply.

Other prescription drugs, such as ambien or valium, require doctor's prescription. It is said that some pharmacists can prescribe, but I suspect it takes a lot of hunting to find one like that.Thanks for this info MamaGuevos. Had no problem getting a generic Viagra in a pharmacy, 150 bob per 100 MG pill.

Trip Report.

Spent 4 nights in Nairobi and took 3 girls. Stayed at the Mvuli Suites which came up on Booking. Its GF with a security guard on the gate to check them in. Room had a small kitchen, en suite and a smart tv with Youtube and other apps on it which was handy. Wifi was just OK, dropped out sometimes but I have a 4 G sim anyway so not a major problem. Cost was 2,200 ksh per night, I booked two nights then extended for a further two. Local area has a supermarket a 3 minute walk away and a sports bar (Hacienda) with BBQ food on the menu. Its about a 20 minute walk to the CBD so I took Bolt taxis everywhere, usually about 150 ksh.

Had meant to make it to Sabina Joy but never did, Some of the reports on here of 5's and 6's put me off. Mainly focused on Tinder, Bumble and Tagged. Found Tinder easily the best of the three as Tagged has a lot of dross on it and only one photo of the girl. I did contact a couple of girls through an escort site but that was useless too as there was no face pics and when asked for pics by Whatsapp I got no reply. So Tinder the main game for me. I chased university girls 20-25 who were 7's and 8's and once matched asked if they were here for short term fun which most were even if their profile said long term only. From there exchanged numbers for Whatsapp to negotiate. Offered 4 k ST with two sessions and massage. Many wanted more, 7 k, 8 k not uncommon. Told them thanks but not for me. Probably only 25% accepted 4 k with a few asking 5 k.

Had a good time with 3 girls, the first two especially. All 3 had great slim bodies and nice tits. All 3 gave BBBJ but only one was good at it. The third was trying to get more money out of me right before the deed. Was assertive and said 4 k was the price we agreed or she could leave. Even afterwards she was asking for more which was annoying but told her no. The other two were great in bed and eager to please. Far better attitudes than what you get in Thailand these days and cheaper too.

I enjoyed Nairobi a lot and will be back in a few weeks after going to Uganda & Rwanda. So will take at least one of the girls again on my return and then I have about 30 matches on Tinder to filter through and contact for when I get back. Overall ID say Nairobi is a fun town with better looking girls than Thailand who are more eager to please. Have definitely enjoyed my first stay and looking forward to the next one in a few weeks. Will also get down to Mombasa area as well for some fun by the beaches. Thanks to all for the previous helpful reports.

[HappyFarang]

Thanks for all the advice on transport between Nairobi and Mombasa.

I am moving to Mombasa's forum and will report there on my findings. It's going to be fun. Only worry would be food, as I don't eat any animal products, but it looks like there are plenty of traditional options.

[HappyFarang]

Yep. Kenyan women are very approachable and almost all up for some bedroom gymnastics, some the same night but you get them all in a short space of time if you play it properly. TIA or TIK.What is TIA or TIK?

[Mombie75]

What is TIA or TIK?An excuse locals make when they offer poor service or something goes wrong. This Is Africa or This Is Kenya.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Be there in a couple weeks. I arrived around 3 am. I know to get a Safaricom SIM card, but it appears they will be closed.

I would prefer to hire an Uber over all the over transportation options. Should I use the airport wifi for Uber? What are the options if using a Taxi and what is a responsible fare?

Thanks.

[Radical Guy]

Be there in a couple weeks. I arrived around 3 am. I know to get a Safaricom SIM card, but it appears they will be closed.

I would prefer to hire an Uber over all the over transportation options. Should I use the airport wifi for Uber? What are the options if using a Taxi and what is a responsible fare?

Thanks.I used Uber last time and summoned him using airport WiFi. The only difficulty is when you walk outside. The WiFi fades fast. So stay in until it looks like the Uber driver is nearby.

[Mombie75]

Be there in a couple weeks. I arrived around 3 am. I know to get a Safaricom SIM card, but it appears they will be closed.

I would prefer to hire an Uber over all the over transportation options. Should I use the airport wifi for Uber? What are the options if using a Taxi and what is a responsible fare?

Thanks.As far as I know people bolt now a lot more than uber. There is a safaricom stall outside as you come out the arrivals hall, I think open 24 HR, they will have sim cards I imagine.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

I used Uber last time and summoned him using airport WiFi. The only difficulty is when you walk outside. The WiFi fades fast. So stay in until it looks like the Uber driver is nearby.Good tip! I'll use the wifi and wait to buy a Safaricom card in the city. Thank you!

[AlwaysHorny 2]

As far as I know people bolt now a lot more than uber. There is a safaricom stall outside as you come out the arrivals hall, I think open 24 HR, they will have sim cards I imagine.Can you share where you saw it is open 24 hours? I was only able to find Safaricom at the airport closed at 9 pm.

[Mombie75]

Can you share where you saw it is open 24 hours? I was only able to find Safaricom at the airport closed at 9 pm.As soon as you exit the arrivals hall you must turn right and you will see all the people standing in front of you waiting for people arriving. Behind this crowd you will see a small row of stalls. One of them will likely be open and sell sim cards. I'm not sure 24 hrs but I have always topped up my mpesa on arriving there at all sorts of hours.

[AlecBrwn]

So my flight got pushed up an extra two days so I'm in Nairobi wanted to know if any fellow mongers are in town and wanting to go do some exploring.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Delayed arrival, but it was still early at 5 am. The SafariCom store was open. Bought only data for $10 USD and I'm still ok because I use wifi whenever I have the chance. To this day, I haven't added anything to M-PESA or went to the ATM. I brought $200 USD with me and only recently exchanged $100 to shillings. Great exchange rate at the bank. Higher than listed online. Cards are widely accepted so that has been my go to.

I'm not a hard core monger. I've had my days. No judgement to anyone else, but I like to establish somewhat of a connection. The sex is that much more enjoyable for me.

I arrived last Friday. Got settled into my condo in Kileleshwa and took a nap. Later that night, I went to The Alchemist around 9 pm and it was extremely early for activities. I had a burger and a beer then went to the upstairs bar with some strong ass drinks. I had two old fashions and sipped slow.

I was getting bored as hell and was kinda gloom about the prospects of something happening. I had previously made an Afro account and added Tinder when I arrived, but didn't feel in the mood to really deal with that. It started filling up some downstairs around 11 pm, so I went down there. Fast forward to around midnight and a statuesque woman of 29 years arrived to the club and posted up next to me. She said it was her birthday so I bought her a drink and hung out with her. Best to get there no earlier than midnight.

We had some drinks. I had one too many. She was game to leave with me and we grabbed some food on the way out. Back to my condo and we both dozed on the couch. Woke her up. She showered and the games began. No BJ, but did go down on her. Again, I had one too many drinks and she just didn't show enough energy so junior really wasn't cooperating. I'm 51, so too much alcohol and lackluster effort from a woman equals a limp willy. I was ok at one point, but when it came time for the condom it was a no go.

The morning was better, but only because I momentarily barebacked her and when I tried to apply the condom I lost my strength. On the way out, she asked for taxi money. I gave her $20 USD, but begged for more. I gave her another $20, but this see word had the nerve to ask for $100. GTFOH. She left a bit disappointed, but still texted me later and the next day. I must have had sucker on my head.

I'm here for the month. Not going hardcore. I've had my ups and downs this week with tinder and a waitress that picked me up, but my Tinder this Friday was next level. A memory to keep forever. I'll share deets in my next post.

[Rwenotmen]

Again, I had one too many drinks and she just didn't show enough energy so junior really wasn't cooperating. I'm 51, so too much alcohol and lackluster effort from a woman equals a limp willy. I was ok at one point, but when it came time for the condom it was a no go. The morning was better, but only because I momentarily barebacked her and when I tried to apply the condom I lost my strength.Brother, I feel you-- am also at the stage of life where if the vibe isn't or can't reach GFE (girl-friend experience), I hold off on the sex til maybe morning, and a few rare cases where I sent her off without doing anything (paying her something small, of course, for her 'time') For me I can't even get hard if it's all purely 'transactional', I don't do Pros.

(Man, remember those days, teens-20's-early-30's, just seeing 'Wow, naked lady!' was enough to get the rocket launched!).

My ways of hooking up now, so I can gauge and build up the GFE: I don't do bar / club hookups anymore, Nairoi doesn't have the primo pickup spots it did in its golden age. I don't drink much outside, maybe when in the apt, as you see it can affect performance. I now book abnbs to have very comfortable & private space (hotels were always impersonal). My big one: since nearly all my dates are thru apps, 90% of the time I make the first meetup a casual one, and usually during the daytime. It gives me & her a nice chance to size up each other thru talking, while doing something social like having a meal or walking around the area (avoid malls!) so we can decide if to move forward. And believe me, quite a few times I've canceled going further, the vibe just wasn't there.

Yeah, alot more work than in our youth, but we're at the stage of life where we don't & won't put up with the nonsense from earlier days.


On the way out, she asked for taxi money. I gave her $20 USD, but begged for more. I gave her another $20, but this Cxnt had the nerve to ask for $100. GTFOH.Bravo! That's exactly how to deal with this. It's bad enough she didn't do the work to get & keep you hard; she actually thought she deserved more for doing less. Typical. Fcuk her, get out!

Best of luck on future adventures!

[AlwaysHorny 2]

My big one: since nearly all my dates are thru apps, 90% of the time I make the first meetup a casual one, and usually during the daytime. It gives me & her a nice chance to size up each other thru talking, while doing something social like having a meal or walking around the area (avoid malls!) so we can decide if to move forward. And believe me, quite a few times I've canceled going further, the vibe just wasn't there.

Yeah, alot more work than in our youth, but we're at the stage of life where we don't & won't put up with the nonsense from earlier days.
I think you gave golden advice IF a GFE type of experience is what you desire. I'm used to being around a certain caliber of woman for free. So, if I'm spending money, I'm definitely expecting not only high quality, but high effort. The apps are the way to go, but even with that said you still have to put in some work so you are not wasting your time or not getting the experience you desire. I had two different approaches to Tinder. Since I'm here for an extended stay, I was originally searching for a woman to spend the majority of my time. A short term GF of sorts, but the process and games just lead to frustration. What I know for a fact is that you are going to spend money regardless. Nothing is free here. The waitress I spent time with costs money indirectly with food, drinks, longer distance ubers. Had she not flamed out with the effort in the bedroom I sure she would have asked for money in the morning, but we did not make it that far. I instantly got rid of her.

So that next morning I woke up on a mission. I created a new Tinder, but this time I offered drinks and spending time with a subtle clue that money was involved. Once I matched, I was direct with meeting me at my apartment. I didn't even need to pay for the app. I had numerous options. I had the luxury of being picky on age, looks, and what I perceived to be a good attitude. Some of the higher quality women I could sense would be outrageously expensive and entitled, so I bypassed the 9's. I settled on a 26 year old, solid 8. She originally quoted 8 k. I countered with 7 k and she accepted. I probably could have gotten her for a bit cheaper, but I'm not tripping over $7-$14 difference. I spend my money as I wish and what is comfortable for my wallet. You cheap charlies can keep your gripes about overpaying to yourself.

She gets to my complex and I go down to sign her in. I was blown away. She was super sexy. She dressed and smelled great and her lips were so luscious I wanted to instantly maul her. I told her she even looked better than her pictures which was the truth. I made her a drink and let her watch tv while I took a shower. I took my time to have a good conversation with her while we drank for a little bit. I got myself comfortable with her and vice versa which I think led to amazing bedroom chemistry. She was true GFE. She kissed tenderly, but with urgency and passion. Our clothes came off in record time. It felt like she genuinely couldn't wait to have me. After an incredible session, we both fell asleep and upon waking went for round 2 which was longer and even more intense. I could sense that she wanted to stay the night, but I had dinner plans so I sent her on her way and gave a tip for such a great memory. One of my best and I've been doing this for a long time so that says a lot. I plan to see here again.

I also picked up a "free" date at Brew Bistro (Fortis) on Saturday. I got there about 10 pm so I could eat while I watched some american college football on my phone. There were some nice looking pros there. I noticed a lot of them go home without a customer so don't be afraid to bargain especially later in the evening. The food was ok, but nothing great. The tap beer was not good. I ignored all of them and then about midnight had my first drink and while standing on the other side of the bar, I was getting eye f*cked from across the bar. She was 30 years old. Medium height, with a nice ass and tits. She was good looking (7.5/10) and her smile showed true interest. I eventually made my way to her. We had a good conversation. We had drinks and did some dancing. I had a great time with her and it just flowed to her leaving with me a little after 2 am. She showered and the fun began. Great kissing, but she seemed somewhat reserved and at one point it felt like she was trying to play a good girl and sex was not going to be on the menu. We still had a nice make out session with naked grinding and foreplay. I was tired and a bit tipsy. We both fell asleep. In the early morning, more kissing and naked grinding, but this time she got on top and was teasing me in the most enjoying manner. She continued to get more excited and the p-slide was incredible because she was now super wet and the inevitable happened. A truly great session. Had to get a plan be in the morning. Oops!

The only damper was the ask for money to get her kid food and a little something for her mom since she stayed with me until about noon. With the drinks, her Uber home, and the cash I gave her I spent about 7 k. She said she hadn't had sex in awhile for reasons I won't get in to. There are definitely blurred lines here and I don't judge. The poverty her is immense so I have some empathy for the ladies situation. She did seem genuinely embarrassed to ask for money. It seems like p*ssy is everywhere here, but just know in the end, you always pay.

I could see myself having a great rotation here. I have almost 3 more weeks. There is a waitress at a coffee house that I'm making my way to again. My first visit she wasn't my server, but I felt the possibility to get here contact. She is about 25 years old, medium height, with a fantastic bubble. If I land this, I might wife her up the rest of my time here. Wish me luck! We all have our different approaches to the games and Nairobi is definitely a place where you can vary your approach. I just feel the best experiences are going to require some work and sometimes a bit of patience.

[Tottem]

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? You should be in Pattaya, africa is not for you. Love it when American weekend warriors go over and raise the expectations of the girls. Some men are just weak and like to get bossed around. I guess a selected few has a fetish for it.

[Mombie75]

Indeed Nairobi has some absolute gems if you put a bit work into it. I prefer trying my luck with waitresses or shop staff etc as I move around rather than apps or clubs.

Was it Brew in Westlands or the Brew on Ngong Road? I find the one Westlands too loud but the Ngong Road one I like.

She asked for 8 k and I countered with 7 k haha made me laugh, I would went in with 5 k and ended up with a deal at 6 k. Like you say it is not a lot and these girls have bills and are pretty hard up for the most part unless they have a regular sponsor.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? You should be in Pattaya, africa is not for you. Love it when American weekend warriors go over and raise the expectations of the girls. Some men are just weak and like to get bossed around. I guess a selected few has a fetish for it.Weak? I really doubt you'd say that in my face. I knew it was just a matter of time before some CLOWN had to add his. 02. I've spent months around the world. I'm in different parts of Africa now for months. I'm a boss in life! I don't have to "pay" for pussy. I pay them to leave. She wanted to stay all night and I wasn't for it. Do you f'and read? Idiot! Sorry you need hook-ups to be able to do what you do. I'm not watching your broke ass pockets so don't be concerned about what I do with my money. Faggot.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Indeed Nairobi has some absolute gems if you put a bit work into it. I prefer trying my luck with waitresses or shop staff etc as I move around rather than apps or clubs.

Was it Brew in Westlands or the Brew on Ngong Road? I find the one Westlands too loud but the Ngong Road one I like.

She asked for 8 k and I countered with 7 k haha made me laugh, I would went in with 5 k and ended up with a deal at 6 k. Like you say it is not a lot and these girls have bills and are pretty hard up for the most part unless they have a regular sponsor.6 k?, I pay 7 k. A mind blowing experience for a whopping $7 difference? I gave the guy that squirts soap and hands napkins in the bathroom at The Alchemist $20. The idiot below would never do that. Some of these people have no soul. I am sure they are miserable in life. I treat everyone well. Including 304's. I'm going to always do me regardless. A lot of people don't post anymore because some of you are just plain pathetic.

[Tottem]

I think you need to take a trip to the Grand Bazaar and learn to haggle. Whatever they quote, offer them 25 % of that amount. Then there is room to add 10% on top if you are really desperate for the goods. Fantasizing about traveling and watching "passport bros" is not the same as doing it, you have to realize the difference.

Just because you can't get pussy within the states borders does not make you a hero when overpaying for prostitutes in Africa. It is plain sad when someone frequents this forum and tries to boost their ego by claiming "I don't need to pay for pussy". The parody of the situation could even fit and episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm". Now I have the theme tune playing in my head.

One more tip on how you know the deal made was good. They don't text or call the day after.

Sidenote 1: In a twisted mind somewhere in Nairobi "she texts and calls because of my good looks, big muscles and performance in bed".

Sidenote 2: There are scientific studies showing there is a correlation between small penis and low self-esteem.

[Darwin]

10 000 and she did not even stay overnight? ... raise the expectations of the girls.I've had a few successful dates off Bumble, and I give them taxi money (most of them live far, up to 1 h away from Westlands) + 4 k (none asked me for anything) and they all seem happy. Mind you, I'm really generous in bed and am having much conventional success in America & Europe, even at 51.

Anyways, I had a date tonight with a really beautiful girl, super curvy, just how I like them. Very pretty face too, she's actually acted in some minor role for a tele-novella. Lovely dinner, and towards the end she gives me the speech "well, if it's to be casual, what's in it for me. " and she asks for compensation.

I tell her that I'm very open to it, what's her ask. And she replies, completely seriously, 1000 USD.

I didn't even counter. She wanted to know what I could offer, and she was "what, it's not close to 1000?

I paid her a cab back to her place and took a motorbike home, laughing out loud on the way.

[Mombie75]

Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.

[Darwin]

Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.Right. Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. I'm inviting one to hike Mt Kenya with me, and two others to come to Lamu. That kind of GFE is definitely more expensive 😅. But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too. I'll definitely be more in that mode in Mombasa region.

[Neddy69]

Right. Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. I'm inviting one to hike Mt Kenya with me, and two others to come to Lamu. That kind of GFE is definitely more expensive 😅. But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too. I'll definitely be more in that mode in Mombasa region.Hiking? Most kenchicks are not used to walk 100 yards. In high Heels? They take a pikipiki wherever they go. Hiking mount Kenya? You made my day. Hahaha. Invite her for chicken dinner. That's all. Waste of money and time. Romance is a western invention 200 years ago. Unknown in Africa. Just say you want jiggi jiggi for chicken and chips dinner and transport money. Don't get complicated. These are not western spoiled brain dead #metoo women. Or why do you thing I live in Africa?

Mwalimu.

[Rwenotmen]

(at) AlwaysHorny2 / (at) Tottem: now-now brothers, no need to bicker. We're all in the same game, just different ways of playing, hahaha.

I don't normally but there're some rare times I've paid over-market for Casual; one time was this, it was totally worth it! http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2747306#post2747306. If anybody finds this chick at one of the Bistros or elsewhere, let me know!


Dinner is because I'm definitely looking for full-on GFE. ... But I understand the appeal of quick & easy too.And this is it, exactly: when ya want In&Out, then 5 K and under is acceptable; for GFE, it's going to be 5 K and more, easy.

Sure it's possible to get either for 'free', but This is Kenya (TM) -- you're going to pay, one way or another, eventually.

I typically want GFE, as my visits are usually 1-3 months at a time, and I don't want the headache of going thru the pro / semi ratcatcher circuit. So my radar & focus is always on the ladies who will make nice virtual GFs -- yes, even at a price.

[JoeF479]

Guys, no offense to anyone here. But chill out. Who cares what one pays. I've paid $500 in the US for an average chick because I can and the equivalent of $40 to a super hot chick in Medellin and everything in between. It really is irrelevant. Unless you are there, each situation is different. Even with the same girl. We should be super appreciative of anyone who post real info and real experiences here as it helps everyone. PEACE.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Man, I'm literally sitting here at Mambo meat house in Kileleshwa with a sore the*ck. BTW, the food is good here.

My local "GF" of the less than a week is sexing me senseless. I have not paid ONE cent outside of the couple dates. Her sister came over to me while I was eating lunch. The sister seems to be mid thirties, but my girl is only 25. Last night, her other married sister hosted at their home and they cooked for me. Afterwards my "GF" came back with me and I really wasn't looking for it to be honest because we screwed like crazy the previous night. She says she only had one boyfriend and had not dated for a long time.

These are not poor Kenyans. The family has a nice home in a gated community. The husband grilled me lightly on my visit and plans. I do have some serious thoughts of buying a condo here. I know I'm being set for the long game. I only have a couple weeks before heading to Kampala and I don't mind chilling with her. She is super sweet and can't stop kissing me. The only problem is getting her to leave in the morning which is stretching past noon now.

My point in all of this is that there are all kinds of ways to get sex in Kenya. From the fine waitresses at Art Caffe on Kimanthi that I will not get to smash now, to randoms everywhere you go, I see no reason for anyone to have problems. I could easily post WhatsApp receipts, but I don't feel the need to prove myself. I'm not here to argue with sad men. I highly recommend anyone who is on the fence to visit Nairobi!

[Neddy69]

Man, I'm literally sitting here at Mambo meat house in Kileleshwa with a sore the*ck. BTW, the food is good here.

My local "GF" of the less than a week is sexing me senseless. I have not paid ONE cent outside of the couple dates. Her sister came over to me while I was eating lunch. The sister seems to be mid thirties, but my girl is only 25. Last night, her other married sister hosted at their home and they cooked for me. Afterwards my "GF" came back with me and I really wasn't looking for it to be honest because we screwed like crazy the previous night. She says she only had one boyfriend and had not dated for a long time.

These are not poor Kenyans. The family has a nice home in a gated community. The husband grilled me lightly on my visit and plans. I do have some serious thoughts of buying a condo here. I know I'm being set for the long game. I only have a couple weeks before heading to Kampala and I don't mind chilling with her. She is super sweet and can't stop kissing me. The only problem is getting her to leave in the morning which is stretching past noon now.

My point in all of this is that there are all kinds of ways to get sex in Kenya. From the fine waitresses at Art Caffe on Kimanthi that I will not get to smash now, to randoms everywhere you go, I see no reason for anyone to have problems. I could easily post WhatsApp receipts, but I don't feel the need to prove myself. I'm not here to argue with sad men. I highly recommend anyone who is on the fence to visit Nairobi!Well. You're husband material. What do you expect. Sperm donor. We all know that you can get all the pussy you ever wanted. However. Strings attached. The African woman makes sure that the husband never leaves the house hungry or horny.

Mwalimu.

Who who will remain happy single. Too much to taste. I'll be busy in the foreseeable future. But there's rules. The 10 commandments. And to pay. Well that comes later.

[SeanBenz]

Well. You're husband material. What do you expect. Sperm donor. We all know that you can get all the pussy you ever wanted. However. Strings attached. The African woman makes sure that the husband never leaves the house hungry or horny.

Mwalimu.

Who who will remain happy single. Too much to taste. I'll be busy in the foreseeable future. But there's rules. The 10 commandments. And to pay. Well that comes later.Just how much is it for a late evening and all night sesh these days in nairobi. With the kes struggling is 4/5 k still acceptable. I am in town for 2 weeks in November.

One chick quoted 30 k. I laughed so hard. If I want to get a dildo up my ass with no lube, I will just go to London, have a "date" with a 38+ over weight chick.

And drop 92 GBP on a dinner in London bridge.

[Mombie75]

Just how much is it for a late evening and all night sesh these days in nairobi. With the kes struggling is 4/5 k still acceptable. I am in town for 2 weeks in November.

One chick quoted 30 k. I laughed so hard. If I want to get a dildo up my ass with no lube, I will just go to London, have a "date" with a 38+ over weight chick.

And drop 92 GBP on a dinner in London bridge.There are plenty of women in Nai who have regular income from men or sponsors and with a bit if hustle on the side do quite well. They will ask for stupid amounts like 30 k as they hope to hook an idiot who will pay it as they are not fussed on meeting.

You pay more in Nai than Mombasa, I don't go over 5 k but I only meet for an hour or two, no interest in over nights.

[Reiner Otto]

I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad expirience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?

[Neddy69]

I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad expirience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?Get mpesa first in Nairobi. I personally wouldn't stress myself going straight to the train station from the airport. Usually there's free seats. At least first class seems to be never fully booked. Economy it can happen to be sold out in weekends or holidays. Seats are limited. You can reserve and pay online with mpesa. At the train station arrive at least 1. 5 hours before. There's self service ticket printing machines where you print out your actual ticket. The security is a joke. They have dog handlers. 2 scanners. Worse than any airline. They took my Swiss folding knife. Morons. And on top of that. Immigration checked for illegal white immigrants. Yeah sure. I'm getting tired of the antics. As much as I like the train ride. I just might fly this time. Pain in de ass. Cheaper option. Public bus. Or Bolt.

Mwalimu.

[Albert9989]

I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad expirience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?Impossible to buy a ticket from outside the country, you had the same issue.

The best is to buy a local sim card just outside the airport and then open a mpesa account, the you can book online. But if you want to go from airport to train it will be too short to create the mpesa.

Otherwise you need to buy the ticket at the train station, I didn't saw any queue there, most people use mpesa, but could depends on the hour when you arrive.

Train station is quite close to airport so the best is to stick to a regular taxi I guess. After you can use bolt or Uber.

Don't confuse the old train station inside Nairobi, the train for Mombasa is in the new one on the airport side.

[Mombie75]

I will fly into Nairobi next month, very early morning, and want to take train (08:00) to Mombasa. Trying to buy ticket on Kenyan railways web site does not offer a suitable payment option for me, so I consider buying train ticket directly in railway station.

Having bad experience from India, about several hours of waiting in queue, I have to ask: Is it easy to buy train ticket in Nairobi "on the spot" ? No long queue?

And, any cheaper option than (Uber ?) taxi to go from Airport to train station in Nairobi ?Uber or Bolt is your best option from JKIA to Train. If you want cheaper than the few hundred shillings it will cost then things must be bad, really?

If you get a ticket on the day it is likely first class will be sold out but economy should be available. Queues should not be okay.

[SceticoBlu]

With Safaricom Madarakatrain booking can be done by *639# and Payment with MPESA. Bolt has often an edge over Uber in Kenya. Other taxis are lore expensive. Matatu is cheaper. By food is cheapest.

[SceticoBlu]

By the way it is not a good idea to arrive by plan at Jomo Kenyatta airport and then continue by train to Mombasa a few hours later. I'd go by Jumbojet and avoid all the checking in again which at the train station resembles an airport with the obbligation to be there 2 hours before departure and security checks.

[Reiner Otto]

With Safaricom Madarakatrain booking can be done by *639# and Payment with MPESA. Bolt has often an edge over Uber in Kenya. Other taxis are lore expensive. Matatu is cheaper. By food is cheapest.Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.

[Albert9989]

Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.Not possible.

Or I don't see how. Mpesa is a Safari com service, they request a safaricom sim to work, so you need to be in Kenya to use mpesa.

Not possible to buy madakara train tickets from outside country or via travel agencies maybe.

[SceticoBlu]

Mpesa can be obtained at the airport but for the reason below I advise you not to take the train at all and at 8 am when you are looking there is no departure, only at 3 pm.

[Reiner Otto]

at 8 am when you are looking there is no departureSorry, but metickets dot krc dot co dot ke shows the Inter County Train 08: AM.

When arriving 03:00 in Nairobi, plenty of time. I enjoy sightseeing from train.

[Mombie75]

Sorry, but metickets dot krc dot co dot ke shows the Inter County Train 08: AM.

When arriving 03:00 in Nairobi, plenty of time. I enjoy sightseeing from train.There is a daily 8 am departure from Nbo to Msa.

[Leblon]

Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.You can use for example World Remit. I don't know if you need to register or not, I have registered, I have account in World Remit, easy to create, for free.

You choose Kenia as destination, then you choose Mobile Money as way to delivery, that is Mpesa.

Then you add reveiver name and number, Mpesa account is same as phone number.

Then it asks your credit card number etc. Normal electric payment procedure.

You don't need to have Safaricom sim card or anything in Kenya. I have delivered money several times to Kenya this way.

I have seen with Western Union that they have also some "Mobile Wallet" as one way to deliver, when you choose Kenya as destination. But I have never tried that, probably work same way.

[Neddy69]

You can use for example World Remit. I don't know if you need to register or not, I have registered, I have account in World Remit, easy to create, for free.

You choose Kenia as destination, then you choose Mobile Money as way to delivery, that is Mpesa.

Then you add reveiver name and number, Mpesa account is same as phone number.

Then it asks your credit card number etc. Normal electric payment procedure.

You don't need to have Safaricom sim card or anything in Kenya. I have delivered money several times to Kenya this way.

I have seen with Western Union that they have also some "Mobile Wallet" as one way to deliver, when you choose Kenya as destination. But I have never tried that, probably work same way.This is a Paybill number. That means it's used to pay bills with mPesa. You can use World remit only to transfer money to a mobile phone number. NOT a Paybill number. So it is NOT possible to pay your train ticket with World Remit. In order to pay a Kenya railways Ticket you need a valid mPesa mobile money account. Easiest is after you arrive in Yomo Kenyatta take a Bolt to the train station. First class is almost never full. Pay cash.

Mwalimu.

[Slowalk]

Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.Why would you need to?

[World Jockey]

Please, advise, how to pay MPESA from Germany, not having Kenyan phone number.Another vote for world remit. Easy breezy.

[Slowalk]

Another vote for world remit. Easy breezy.I use Wise first, World Remit and Remitly as back ups in Kenya.

[AttilaTheHun]

Girls with a steady income stream will always go for the kill with silly money demands hoping they have hooked an idiot who will pay it. I have never heard $1000 asked for but have had a few at $2-300. I do not even bother responding to such stupidity.

I think the most I have ever paid any girl in Kenya is 5 k, that is for 1-2 hours as I never do longer. I usually pay 2-3 k.

Never bother with the dinner thing either.I never go over 2 K, and most of the time it's 1500 KES. That includes public transportation, I don't pay for car service, only sometimes when it rains, and she is in the rotation and if I like her enough to do something together. Such as the last time when we went together to the elephant orphanage. I don't get it, but some of my girls didn't have umbrellas, and they were worried that if heir head becomes wet they get sick. Therefore, they didn't take public transportation, so I just let them use a car service. I ended up buying them umbrellas, and now they are using them. I only have Luhya girls, I find them the most humble girls. The most financially humble girls, I should say. Didn't have good experience with Luo girls, I find them suffering from superiority complex or some form of feminist thinking. I also like to take my Luhya girls for a kuku and chips sometimes or white coffee, samosa etc. After, so that adds up another 1 k. I don't care about "high class" girls, I avoid them like a plaque. I did it once, and she was worse than a white feminist *.

[World Jockey]

I never go over 2 K, and most of the time it's 1500 KES. That includes public transportation, ...... I don't care about "high class" girls, I avoid them like a plaque. I did it once, and she was worse than a white feminist *.I think that's about right especially if this is a repeat girl. I will only pay for transport if I don't want to wait a million years for her to arrive. Those matatus are hit or miss. She will start to get 1000 kes flat. As for those "high class" creatures of brew bistro they can stay right where they are. I don't know about you fellas but as a gen x coming from the west I find it very easy to find women in nbo. If one doesn't want to play ball there are a million behind them. They know it too. The only time I will go slightly above is if I come across a girl that's exactly my type. And still no more than like 3 k. I know girls who have wazungus sending them 100 usd+ from overseas. I have seen the transfers. Just ridiculous.

[Radical Guy]

I never go over 2 K, and most of the time it's 1500 KES. That includes public transportation, I don't pay for car service, only sometimes when it rains, and she is in the rotation and if I like her enough to do something together. Such as the last time when we went together to the elephant orphanage. I don't get it, but some of my girls didn't have umbrellas, and they were worried that if heir head becomes wet they get sick. Therefore, they didn't take public transportation, so I just let them use a car service. I ended up buying them umbrellas, and now they are using them. I only have Luhya girls, I find them the most humble girls. The most financially humble girls, I should say. Didn't have good experience with Luo girls, I find them suffering from superiority complex or some form of feminist thinking. I also like to take my Luhya girls for a kuku and chips sometimes or white coffee, samosa etc. After, so that adds up another 1 k. I don't care about "high class" girls, I avoid them like a plaque. I did it once, and she was worse than a white feminist *.How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.

[World Jockey]

How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.I find it hard to tell the difference too. They can tell tho. All the girls tend to have huge forheads but IMHO Kikuyus suffer from this the most.

If you know the last name Luo last names typically start with "O" for example Obama, Odinga.

[Mombie75]

How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.I have been in Kenya 20 years. You can get an idea from looks and demeanor but it is not failsafe and as Kenyans always lie. If you know some sentences / dialect from language then you can know for sure. Ie some pronounce an are as an l. Heavy boned, probably a luo)) slim and darker move up to northern tribes. I know some Kamba so can usually nail them easily.

Comes down to experience and if you have an interest in picking up local bits of culture.

[Neddy69]

How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.Don't over complicate things here. Just ask. I make it a sports though to guess. I can nail Ethiopians or Somalis quite easy. As one of my 10 commandments is no close relationship it's a non issue. On coast you find usually all tribes as many are looking for "work". Most don't find work so they sell pussy. I like kenyan tourist pussy though. More affluent people come from Nairobi. Since the Madaraka express a lot of people come just for the weekend as coast is still cheaper. I collect tribes and subtribes. I sampled most tribes. There's a lot of mixes too. I had a Turkana / Digo mix. Generally there's more conservative tribes like Kikuyu or Kambas. The loosest are Luo and Luhya where polygamy is the norm. So fucking around is perfectly normal.

Mwalimu.

[Slowalk]

How do you identify the ones who are Luhya? Do you just ask girls until you stumble across one, or is there an easier way? I can't differentiate Kenyan girls by tribe just by looking at them.I lived the last two years dead center in Luhya country. Kenyans know a person's tribe by their names. They all think they can tell which tribe people are from by their actions and appearance but they are often wrong. I can't tell the difference between Luo (Kisumu) Kalenjin (Eldoret), Kikuyu, Luhya, Embu, Meru or even Maasai if they are not in traditional clothing. I don't know if the person is from Uganda, Congo or Tanzania either by their appearance. Bantu look the same and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. There are some tribes in the north and in the east who are distinguishable as well as South Sudanese refugees who are 6-1/2 ft tall and thin. All you need to know is if a Kenyan is talking, they're telling you a lie. And asking for money. If you want a relationship, go to Uganda or even Tanzania.

[LynnMan]

Hi mongers, below is a report for Nairobi, and all activities are around first week of October 2023.

I have separated the narrative into sections, detailing what where and price as best as I remember.

Using info from this site, I set out to look for massage within CBD and vicinity, with saving time being most important on my list. First, I checked the massage place at at Dev towers (Not sure of the Spa name, there was La Celeb and Jephers) but it's the one on 6th floor. Location is 21 Biashara street, and it's a 6 level building with brick exterior, it spans Biashara street and Tubman roads.

In the past they had 4 massage businesses in that building, but lately the only that I know is the one on 6th floor. The lift never works, so it's quite a work-out climbing the stairs to 6th floor. When I went there, the selection was 7 ladies looks about 6-8 and you pick the girl that you want. Massage only is 3 k and then the extra depends on what you negotiate with the girl. Extra is CBJ, HJ, full service. I opted for massage and full service and total was 5 k. I don't remember the names of the girls, but in any case they change the names that they give to clients. They accept both cash or Mpesa with Paybill number. Overall service was okay, a 7 out of 10.

Crystal Spa: It's located a few buildings down Biashara street from Dev towers (Market Mansion, a white building at 33 Biashara street) Massage place is on 4th floor, and to be clear there are other beauty and spas in the bulding, some are open door with female customers, and they did not advertise massage (I assume these are salons etc). At Crystal, there is a madam at reception and a locked door behind her. I was brought the line up, 8 girls in total. I chose Kiki, slim girl, and I made sure to note the color of her dress, and shape / size making it easier for their madam to call for you the right girl. She did great massage; full service was about okay and overall experience was 8 out of 10 for me. Damage was 4. 5 K paid via Mpesa, and I tipped her 500. Interesting fact, they have a pay-bill number and have posted warnings in the room not to give ask the girls for their numbers, and for you as the customer not to be harassed by the girls to give them your number. In the same building there is a massage parlour called " Pals Lounge" I did not try it, but they have a placard on the front of the building.

Pucolin Spa: It's in Westlands, at 15 Westlands road. It's in a residential 4 floor courtyard building, next to Nairobi Technical institute and opposite the gate for Graffins college. This was by far my best experience. There is a placard at the gate for the spa, with a phone number written. There is a security guard at the gate, but he did not ask any questions, and if coming by Uber, they can drive into the compound and drop you off in the courtyard. The Spa is inside the first building on your left from the gate, and there is a placard at the entry. The madam came and explained that massage was 3. 5 K, extras are up to you to negotiate with the girl. Again, the lineup was sent in of 8 women in total looks about 5-8. Cuter and more relaxed than those at CBD spas. I picked ' Sharon ' she was the youngest looking and seemed to have a nice attitude. She came in and asked what I wanted. I replied full service, she quoted 2. 5 K, bargained down to 2 K. She said that she mostly gets asked to do HJ and covered BJ. She said she is 21 years old, and that could be true, perk up tits, narrow waist, flat tummy, body is tight, no kids and she got down to work. Massage was like 45 minutes, followed by FS. I ended up giving her the extra 500 anyway. I paid cash there, not sure if they take Mpesa, you can ask. It's an older residential flat, with ensuite bedrooms (4) well maintained. In the same building across the door was another Massage spa (Nokay Parlour) but I never tried them.

City Spa: Located at Jubilee House, on Muindi Mbingu street, opposite Jenanjee park. Its next to " House of Leather" and it's a red building, you walk up one level. Place is quite run down, and the madam is a hustler. She came into the room and said she will choose a girl for me. I insisted that I want to see the line up and pick one myself, she asked why I didn't trust her choice, and I said send them in and I pick. A total of 8 girls showed up, and I picked one " Aisha" who had a coast accent. The madam came back and said that she was unavailable because she was waiting for a client. I was sent another girl, I don't remember her name, slim and light skinned. Madam had stated clearly that 3. 5 K was the house fee for massage, extra you negotiate with the girl. This light skinned girl quoted 7 K. I asked for what, she said "any extra". At this point I asked her what about the house fee, she said that was separate. I said no way, and she was willing to come down to 4 K for herself plus house fee. At this point I left the room and went to reception and told madam I was going to leave. The light skinned girl came to reception too, and then said she can come do the massage for reduced 3 K only, then extra I get another girl. I refused because I don't see how once the massage is done, and I'm hard, then another girl is going to come in and we negotiate. My gut feeling was that this girl was not really into full service, and di not care for the extra money, or maybe some beef with the madam, or house etc. At this point the girl from coast was called in, and she agreed.

To do massage and extra total fee 6 K. Although I did not hear explicitly at the beginning, the only problem was she did not commit to sex at the beginning, but she guaranteed satisfaction, and in Swahili gave the impression that she was good for the job. No more talk of she was waiting for another client. Her looks were about 8 out of 10, attitude a 9. Once she undressed, I would give her mid to upper 20's, well maintained body. Her massage was 8 out of 10, with lots of body rubbing, naked and hit all the right areas. Then the surprise came when I said that I was satisfied with the massage. She did not get a rubber as I'm used to. She rubbed my balls with her hands a bit, then started doing a BBBJ. I asked her what was going on, and she said that its how she was going to satisfy me. Not sure the reason not to have sex, she did not explain. As it happens the BJ got me popping pretty soon. She agreed to be paid via Mpesa, and she told me that now since I have her number I can 'book' her next time I'm coming to the place. Her name for Mpesa is not what she had given at the intro, but that is common. She insisted she was the only coastarian at the Spa, and anyone coming should ask for her. My take of the place was poorly maintained spa, terms not clear at all, double-speak etc. From what I could tell girls do give clients numbers and either get booked or maybe service outside? For context I'm black male, was born and raised in Kenya, fluent in Swahili, some sheng, and I use Swahili in all these transactions, so quite unlikely that they were trying to take advantage of a tourist / naive guy.

On a side note, I have heard the phrase action at ' Kabarnet Gardens' by locals on social media etc. Can someone with experience point out any spas or parlours in that area? On Google maps there is Kabarnet road, off Ngong road, and there are some businesses advertising massage amongst beauty etc. In Nairobi my sense is that whether full body massage plus extras are offered, is a discretion of the business, and mongers know or point out where to look.

[LynnMan]

This is a Paybill number. That means it's used to pay bills with mPesa. You can use World remit only to transfer money to a mobile phone number. NOT a Paybill number. So it is NOT possible to pay your train ticket with World Remit. In order to pay a Kenya railways Ticket you need a valid mPesa mobile money account. Easiest is after you arrive in Yomo Kenyatta take a Bolt to the train station. First class is almost never full. Pay cash.

Mwalimu.Here's my. 02 contribution. I have Mpesa app on my phone. I have eSim on my phone, with Safaricom, Airtel and my local USA numbers on the Esim platform. I'm able to transact from the Mpesa App on wifi anywhere. Every few months I turn 'ON' the Safaricom line via e-sim and buy some airtime to keep the line open. I have done this for about 2 years. To be clear the initial Mpesa activation was at a Safaricom shop when they activated my e-sim. Another thing with the train is that you have to submit a form of ID either local Kenyan ID card or passport when buying the ticket in person, and when boarding the train.

[World Jockey]

I lived the last two years dead center in Luhya country. Kenyans know a person's tribe by their names. They all think they can tell which tribe people are from by their actions and appearance but they are often wrong. I can't tell the difference between Luo (Kisumu) Kalenjin (Eldoret), Kikuyu, Luhya, Embu, Meru or even Maasai if they are not in traditional clothing. I don't know if the person is from Uganda, Congo or Tanzania either by their appearance. Bantu look the same and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. There are some tribes in the north and in the east who are distinguishable as well as South Sudanese refugees who are 6-1/2 ft tall and thin. All you need to know is if a Kenyan is talking, they're telling you a lie. And asking for money. If you want a relationship, go to Uganda or even Tanzania.Yup. Ethiopians, somali and south sudanese look different. Outside of that I can't tell. The locals say they can I just take their word for it.


Hi mongers, below is a report for Nairobi, and all activities are around first week of October 2023.

I have separated the narrative into sections, detailing what where and price as best as I remember.
Great report on massage spots in NBO. I have never visited any because lets face it. Girls in NBO are very willing to drop panties. I may check some of these spots out tho. Sometimes one doesn't want to do the song and dance.

[AttilaTheHun]

I lived the last two years dead center in Luhya country. Kenyans know a person's tribe by their names. They all think they can tell which tribe people are from by their actions and appearance but they are often wrong. I can't tell the difference between Luo (Kisumu) Kalenjin (Eldoret), Kikuyu, Luhya, Embu, Meru or even Maasai if they are not in traditional clothing. I don't know if the person is from Uganda, Congo or Tanzania either by their appearance. Bantu look the same and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. There are some tribes in the north and in the east who are distinguishable as well as South Sudanese refugees who are 6-1/2 ft tall and thin. All you need to know is if a Kenyan is talking, they're telling you a lie. And asking for money. If you want a relationship, go to Uganda or even Tanzania.What made you move to Luhya country and how was your experience living there. Prices must be way less including pussy. Are you living in Kakamega? I'm thinking about giving it a try. Not always, but more often than not I can tell a Luhya from a Luo. They have slightly different curves and personalizes. Also, Luo girls are often more confident and self-assured. That's my limited experience.

[SceticoBlu]

I took a break from online activities and checked on Biashara 21,33 and WestlandsR 15 mentioned in the usefull report below. In the later there was a nice one at the reception leading me immediately to a massage table naming 3 K for Swedish. No lineup. I wanted to see the other places and girls first so I left for B21. There was a lineup of 6-7 girls wearing sexy dresses appearing one after another saying her name, smiling and leaving. They were looking only average and the final one was the oldest. She asked which one I take and I replied none for the moment due to demanding 4 K for 1 hour classical and the not too attractive appearances. At B33 when looking for the signpost on the street the female askari asked if I want to buy something in the liquor shop. I said no and got the answer 'So you look for massage' At once she was assisted by the male askari telling me I should take the number of the female collegue because she can massage well. A bit intimitated by such directness I did not go up and left.

[RoamingSub]

I took a break from online activities and checked on Biashara 21,33 and WestlandsR 15 mentioned in the usefull report below. In the later there was a nice one at the reception leading me immediately to a massage table naming 3 K for Swedish. No lineup. I wanted to see the other places and girls first so I left for B21. There was a lineup of 6-7 girls wearing sexy dresses appearing one after another saying her name, smiling and leaving. They were looking only average and the final one was the oldest. She asked which one I take and I replied none for the moment due to demanding 4 K for 1 hour classical and the not too attractive appearances. At B33 when looking for the signpost on the street the female askari asked if I want to buy something in the liquor shop. I said no and got the answer 'So you look for massage' At once she was assisted by the male askari telling me I should take the number of the female collegue because she can massage well. A bit intimitated by such directness I did not go up and left.Hi guys. New guy here came across this site few days ago but it's been giving me alot of crap trying to register. But I like the convos here. Let me just add my little input.

First time visiting Kenya was in August this year. Before landing I've been talking to some few women I met on bumble and tinder. Met them for dinner and clubbing but wasn't impressed at all. It was normal and boring.

I wanted something exciting, kink something that gives me a rush. I decided to check out escorts. I needed great company as I was there for about 5 weeks.

Long story short after hours of looking at profiles and photos I came across this profile on a website called massage republic. The bio itself is really interesting and made me very curious. The escort is called Katrina, she's rwandese or something.

I gave her a call and she was super friendly and made me understand what she offers.

Had a GFE the next day and later to my room. That was exactly exactly what I was looking for. Everything was incredible. Her vibe and she's very educated and I was surprised she has a degree. Her rates were alittle higher than the normal Kenyan girls but I'd say it was worth it. I paid $200 for 4 hours but the only disadvantage is she doesn't spend the nights. I saw her around 3 times during my whole stay. Very worth it I'd say.

Oh and I also got a world class massage that was included. So I guess it was a pretty good deal.

[SeanBenz]

Hi guys. New guy here came across this site few days ago but it's been giving me alot of crap trying to register. But I like the convos here. Let me just add my little input.

First time visiting Kenya was in August this year. Before landing I've been talking to some few women I met on bumble and tinder. Met them for dinner and clubbing but wasn't impressed at all. It was normal and boring.

I wanted something exciting, kink something that gives me a rush. I decided to check out escorts. I needed great company as I was there for about 5 weeks.

Long story short after hours of looking at profiles and photos I came across this profile on a website called massage republic. The bio itself is really interesting and made me very curious. The escort is called Katrina, she's rwandese or something.

I gave her a call and she was super friendly and made me understand what she offers.

Had a GFE the next day and later to my room. That was exactly exactly what I was looking for. Everything was incredible. Her vibe and she's very educated and I was surprised she has a degree. Her rates were alittle higher than the normal Kenyan girls but I'd say it was worth it. I paid $200 for 4 hours but the only disadvantage is she doesn't spend the nights. I saw her around 3 times during my whole stay. Very worth it I'd say.

Oh and I also got a world class massage that was included. So I guess it was a pretty good deal.200 usd, and she didn't do overnight!! To each their own butttt goddamn folks like you be messing the market up!!

[RoamingSub]

200 usd, and she didn't do overnight!! To each their own butttt goddamn folks like you be messing the market up!!It was worth every penny though. She had lower rates for other services but what I wanted cost me 200 bucks. Plus dinner of course.

[Mombie75]

It was worth every penny though. She had lower rates for other services but what I wanted cost me 200 bucks. Plus dinner of course.$200 for a woman in Kenya, fcuking brain dead ridiculous.

[SeanBenz]

It was worth every penny though. She had lower rates for other services but what I wanted cost me 200 bucks. Plus dinner of course.Fair play fella. I won't ask anything further.

[Neddy69]

$200 for a woman in Kenya, fcuking brain dead ridiculous.Hey. She was educated and had a degree. LOL. Only a tourist can be that dumb.

Mwalimu.

[AttilaTheHun]

$200 for a woman in Kenya, fcuking brain dead ridiculous.That's about 30,000 KES. 2 months salary for many Kenyans.

[BPalacio]

I think it's clear that RoamingSub is just advertising that woman. First post ever on this forum, and he lists an escort by name and includes the site on which she advertises. I don't think anyone here is foolish enough to throw $200 on pussy in Kenya. What an absolute moron. No one will care to see you and your "educated" pussy. Why do I even care if a lady has a degree? Am I having some sort of philosophical debate while I am railing her from the back?

You've done a terrible job at advertising, and the evidence is all the guys on this thread laughing at you.

[King Amir]

200 dollars for 4 hours is unbelievable.

I encounter a lot of women who want a high price, for example a girl on Tinder wanted 15,000 shillings, after that I lowered her to 2,000, she said 4,000, then I said 2,500 including taxi and food, and she agreed to 3,000 shillings.

And that's a price per night!

I'm sure I could have gotten it cheaper.

Understand, 2,000 is a lot for them, and they also love sex! Yes yes, African women love sex! So I suggest next time not to pay much. Even 6,000 is a lot!

[Neddy69]

Finally after running the COVID gauntlet. I kiss sweet mother earth. Mama Africa. The first Ginger tea with lemon and honey tasted like heaven. Finally touch down in Kenya. There's light and shadow. The government tries it's best to chase away the last remaining tourists. I was in the LAST authentic African joint in CBD. Sabina Joy. I cried tears of joy. And yes. I'm not ashamed to say that. Champions league was on. The selector was at its best selecting my favorite times. Uganda happy reggae. Bongo flava. Dance hall. If you don't have a hearing damage after that experience. Fat ass hookers and I mean FAT shove their ways through the crowds watching like under a spell football. I sipped on my White Cap baridi. Pure Bliss.

Did I take pussy? No. That's just a warm up. As usual I'm the only white man. But as I'm African no difference. Kweli Kabisa. The light. It's unbelievable cheap if you have euros or dollars. The shilling is in free fall. The shadow. Dumb government policy. Long power cuts. In CBD Nairobi. I had less power cuts in Antananarivo. Internet. Either lightning fast. Or non existent. Crazy. They have a problem with infrastructure. A serious one. In any case TIK. Like it or run away screaming. Where to? To LGBTQI+PRISON? NFW. Here you're alive. Pussy? There's everywhere you walk. On every street corner. Like my Sansibari friend said. They're like coca cola.

Power went out AGAIN. So no idea if I ever can send that report.

In any case.

Young or old man Go to Africa! The last frontier. Last place on earth where a man can be a man.

Mwalimu.

https://youtu.be/mVyztZXPFCQ?si=sEbbdFc8-iSODXdh

[Mombie75]

Karibu Nairobi.

Did they search your luggage at Jomo when you arrived?

[Neddy69]

Karibu Nairobi.

Did they search your luggage at Jomo when you arrived?No. What they do is. All luggage which is in the hold is scanned before it lands on the carousel. They can see apparently if it's new or used mobile phones for example. Suspicious baggage is marked with white crosses. These are opened. Hand luggage is scanned as usual. There's chaos with fur example wildlife photographers who bring in 30.000 $ equipment. But for me. I don't smuggle 5 new Iphones in. No issues.

Mwalimu.

[Mombie75]

No. What they do is. All luggage which is in the hold is scanned before it lands on the carousel. They can see apparently if it's new or used mobile phones for example. Suspicious baggage is marked with white crosses. These are opened. Hand luggage is scanned as usual. There's chaos with fur example wildlife photographers who bring in 30.000 $ equipment. But for me. I don't smuggle 5 new Iphones in. No issues.

Mwalimu.So you wait longer at carousel now?

Bummer, as I was going to bring an old 24 inch tv for someone that would fit into my hold bag. It will likely get a white X.

[Slowalk]

No. What they do is. All luggage which is in the hold is scanned before it lands on the carousel. They can see apparently if it's new or used mobile phones for example. Suspicious baggage is marked with white crosses. These are opened. Hand luggage is scanned as usual. There's chaos with fur example wildlife photographers who bring in 30.000 $ equipment. But for me. I don't smuggle 5 new Iphones in. No issues.

Mwalimu.Cell phones have batteries and shouldn't be checked. Is Customs as strict with Carry On Luggage? Are they enforcing the Health Insurance yet?

[Mombie75]

Cell phones have batteries and shouldn't be checked. Is Customs as strict with Carry On Luggage? Are they enforcing the Health Insurance yet?There are no health insurance rules to enter Kenya.

[Rwenotmen]

Only Mwalimu can wax so poetic about Kenya, lololol.


Finally after running the COVID gauntlet. I kiss sweet mother earth. Mama Africa. The first Ginger tea with lemon and honey tasted like heaven. Finally touch down in Kenya. There's light and shadow. The government tries it's best to chase away the last remaining tourists. I was in the LAST authentic African joint in CBD. Sabina Joy. I cried tears of joy. And yes. I'm not ashamed to say that. Champions league was on. The selector was at its best selecting my favorite times. Uganda happy reggae. Bongo flava. Dance hall. If you don't have a hearing damage after that experience. Fat ass hookers and I mean FAT shove their ways through the crowds watching like under a spell football. I sipped on my White Cap baridi. Pure Bliss.

Did I take pussy? No. That's just a warm up. As usual I'm the only white man. But as I'm African no difference. Kweli Kabisa. The light. It's unbelievable cheap if you have euros or dollars. The shilling is in free fall. The shadow. Dumb government policy. Long power cuts. In CBD Nairobi. I had less power cuts in Antananarivo. Internet. Either lightning fast. Or non existent. Crazy. They have a problem with infrastructure. A serious one. In any case TIK. Like it or run away screaming. Where to? To LGBTQI+PRISON? NFW. Here you're alive. Pussy? There's everywhere you walk. On every street corner. Like my Sansibari friend said. They're like coca cola.

Power went out AGAIN. So no idea if I ever can send that report.

In any case.

Young or old man Go to Africa! The last frontier. Last place on earth where a man can be a man.

Mwalimu.

https://youtu.be/mVyztZXPFCQ?si=sEbbdFc8-iSODXdh

[Zimzam]

It seems that sex toys are still considered prohibited items at the airport.

Amongst other things also viagra.

That's strange, as you can buy Viagra at any street corner in Kenya.

And also sex toys are available in Kenya at online shops.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/guns-sex-toys-among-items-seized-at-jkia-in-four-months--4426400

[Neddy69]

It seems that sex toys are still considered prohibited items at the airport.

Amongst other things also viagra.

That's strange, as you can buy Viagra at any street corner in Kenya.

And also sex toys are available in Kenya at online shops.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/guns-sex-toys-among-items-seized-at-jkia-in-four-months--4426400Yes. I agree. Kenya is a strange country. So. Easy solution. Don't bring the stuff. Just buy it in country. Anyway. The last Muzungu will shut off the light in Mtwapa. Now K Permit 250 K KES.

Mwalimu.

[SeanBenz]

Finally after running the COVID gauntlet. I kiss sweet mother earth. Mama Africa. The first Ginger tea with lemon and honey tasted like heaven. Finally touch down in Kenya. There's light and shadow. The government tries it's best to chase away the last remaining tourists. I was in the LAST authentic African joint in CBD. Sabina Joy. I cried tears of joy. And yes. I'm not ashamed to say that. Champions league was on. The selector was at its best selecting my favorite times. Uganda happy reggae. Bongo flava. Dance hall. If you don't have a hearing damage after that experience. Fat ass hookers and I mean FAT shove their ways through the crowds watching like under a spell football. I sipped on my White Cap baridi. Pure Bliss.

Did I take pussy? No. That's just a warm up. As usual I'm the only white man. But as I'm African no difference. Kweli Kabisa. The light. It's unbelievable cheap if you have euros or dollars. The shilling is in free fall. The shadow. Dumb government policy. Long power cuts. In CBD Nairobi. I had less power cuts in Antananarivo. Internet. Either lightning fast. Or non existent. Crazy. They have a problem with infrastructure. A serious one. In any case TIK. Like it or run away screaming. Where to? To LGBTQI+PRISON? NFW. Here you're alive. Pussy? There's everywhere you walk. On every street corner. Like my Sansibari friend said. They're like coca cola.Pussy is everywhere here on every corner. The waitress who serves you, the receptionists at the dentist, etc etc. One arguably don't really need Tinder or other online sources.

Met up with a few tinder babes, in some cases we discussed money upfront offered 5 k and this was generally accepted. On one instance a chick tried to get me to agree to 20 k in the middle of the deed after having agreed 5 k. Like seriously!!

In the cases we didn't discuss cash I still gave them 5 k for Uber. On one occasion I was showering after the deed and one helped herself to 40 gbp from my wallet (bit of a bummer). I did however have a hidden second wallet and second phone + passport. Its important to girl proof your apartment.

Had a shitty 3 some in Mombasa with 2 Muslim girls who switched off the TV when they heard the call to prayer. This is after the cum was still dribbling on their legs. Oh well lols.

Met up with 2 offline girls, for decent enough sessions. Same 5 k rules applied.

Talking about blackouts, I was forced to go clubbing at Milan club the after a blackout couldn't stay indoors. Bottles of whisky from 10 k kes and you get a table. Met a chick and drank with her all night and picked her tab she had before I got there 1.6 k kes. (I know I know). At the end of night she asked for a 100 gbp hahaha oh dear. She pretty though but a 19 k kes come on love.

Things are tough though for the everyday person. I casually asked all my new "friends", people in non skilled or low skilled work seem to be earning no more than 25 to 30 k. As an African kid, who managed to escape through good fortune and as a massive leftie, I have pangs of guilty exploitation and all that. I take comfort in that it was all consensual and we are all adults.

I also use prep e, it seems to be important to use this in this city. Even people in serious relationships in this city are on the casual sex game as long as there is monetary gain.

[King Amir]

Hii friends!

I am going to Nairobi soon and I want to hear from you all about club like Sabina joy pub, that I can pickup working girls that I like, I already know Liddos _club, boss den.

And also, I would love to go to a Buffet Restaurants in Nairobi, do you have recommended place?

[Robust1234]

Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

http://luxxnairobi.site/

[Neddy69]

Hii friends!

I am going to Nairobi soon and I want to hear from you all about club like Sabina joy pub, that I can pickup working girls that I like, I already know Liddos _club, boss den.

And also, I would love to go to a Buffet Restaurants in Nairobi, do you have recommended place?Go to Brew Bistro in Westlands. Boss Den was dead. After 11 pm. Eclectic mix of kenyan middle class, hookers, tourists, Indian Business people.

Mwalimu.

Go to Pronto for food. Near the high court. Of course Javas is always good. CBD.

[Neddy69]

Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

http://luxxnairobi.site/Forget it. No need for overpriced escort services in Subsaharan Africa.

Mwalimu.

[Mombie75]

Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

http://luxxnairobi.site/All the pics look fake and why would you ever need to use them in Nairobi?

If you want a dinner date $150 LOL ffs. Ask any woman you see in Nairobi and she will come to dinner. The same in that none will turn down a free trip as a travel companion.

As for the good deed, again get out and introduce yourself to whomever you see and like. The chances are more than 50% you can agree and get what you want.

[Darksol]

After an African respite I have the opportunity to fly by either Kigali or Nairobi on the way home. I have minimal African experience, having spent some time in Uganda and Ethiopia, preferring Uganda. I like semi-pros or good girls, but also like naughty massage-girls, spontaneously. LOL. In the 'dating' scene I have no qualms about pushing a few native currency at the going rate into wallets if I don't want to see them again, but hate pre-negotiating or haggling for sex.

I have RTFFs and Nairobi seems the go for easy of availability, less issues with the police. But I sense it's a bit of a haggling meat-market and prices are going up? Kigali is interesting. I hear you can go well picking up in natural locations, colleges, malls etc. Other than that the massage salons seem the safest place for a bit of a grope, HJ, BJ, shag. And the girls give it up pretty easy without outrageous haggling. I also like tall girls and really like what I am matching with so far on Kigali Tinder (though activity levels are less than Nairobi, which is an insane amount of interest and matches). Am 6 ft 6 myself. 50, well-groomed. I am not fond of loud places, beer, night life, etc. Well. Not to pick up at.

I am travelling with large international luggage, so decent hotels with some hope of security to store luggage are my only options. I also like aircon and thick walls, etc.

[World Jockey]

Hii friends!

I am going to Nairobi soon and I want to hear from you all about club like Sabina joy pub, that I can pickup working girls that I like, I already know Liddos _club, boss den.

And also, I would love to go to a Buffet Restaurants in Nairobi, do you have recommended place?Black diamond in westlansa.

[World Jockey]

Hello,

Has anyone used below site to meet girls in nairobi? Any postive reviews?

http://luxxnairobi.site/In Kenya just say "Hello, I'm from the west. " you will meet millions upon millions of girls.

[Leblon]

After an African respite I have the opportunity to fly by either Kigali or Nairobi on the way home. I have minimal African experience, having spent some time in Uganda and Ethiopia, preferring Uganda. I like semi-pros or good girls, but also like naughty massage-girls, spontaneously. LOL. In the 'dating' scene I have no qualms about pushing a few native currency at the going rate into wallets if I don't want to see them again, but hate pre-negotiating or haggling for sex.

I have RTFFs and Nairobi seems the go for easy of availability, less issues with the police. But I sense it's a bit of a haggling meat-market and prices are going up? Kigali is interesting. I hear you can go well picking up in natural locations, colleges, malls etc. Other than that the massage salons seem the safest place for a bit of a grope, HJ, BJ, shag. And the girls give it up pretty easy without outrageous haggling. I also like tall girls and really like what I am matching with so far on Kigali Tinder (though activity levels are less than Nairobi, which is an insane amount of interest and matches). Am 6 ft 6 myself. 50, well-groomed. I am not fond of loud places, beer, night life, etc. Well. Not to pick up at.

I am travelling with large international luggage, so decent hotels with some hope of security to store luggage are my only options. I also like aircon and thick walls, etc.I vote for Nairobi. Kigali is quiet place compared to Nairobi, there are just a few places to go out. And people and girls don't speak English very well there, in Nairobi they do. Go to Kigali later when you have visited Nairobi, Mombasa and Dar es Salaam.

[Belsie]

Planning my Kenya trip. Nairobi part, I have read all posts but can't decide which area to stay in. Should it be in Westlands or is Nairobi Central better. Any advice greatly appreciated. Also hotel recommendation would be great.

Cheers.

Be.

[Mombie75]

Planning my Kenya trip. Nairobi part, I have read all posts but can't decide which area to stay in. Should it be in Westlands or is Nairobi Central better. Any advice greatly appreciated. Also hotel recommendation would be great.

Cheers.

Be.Central business district gives more eating options and more hunting with more human traffic / road traffic and is noisier than Westlands. Bolt or uber is only 300 ks between the two. Overall not much difference.

[Pokeris]

As I sitting at airport and try to kill the time will add short report. Today at early morning I was flying to Antananarivo with Kenyan airlines and my connecting fly from Nairobi to tana was delayed for more than 10 hours so Kenyan airlines give me free hotel at Nairobi west (Summerdale inn hotel) like 20 minutes away with taxi (indrive) from Sabina joy. I went to hotel have a nap for few hours take a indrive.

Taxi to Sabina joy it was just 2 pm daytime Friday afternoon so I was thinking it will be almost empty on my surprise it was many people already at least 20 girls and many locals. Quality was at lower side many bigger mamas around but after 2. 5 hours spend here drinking tusker lite (cheap beer 260 or 280 shillings) I manage to see a fuckable girl. She was 20 years old from meru at slimmer side as I like. I offer her 1 k for short time and she quickly agrees (its surprise me as same price I was paying 4 years or 5 years ago at Sabina joy. Room cost was 300 extra on the top and they give free condom. RThe girl was nice and sweet she done quiet good blowjob and fuck was fine so in the end I pay her agreed price and give 200 tip and told its for a beer.

I enjoyed my time spending here. If you sit at beginning side from entry girls not bothers you to much but they become more aggressive if you go end side of the bar where is short time rooms near men's toilets. They start grab you and try convince to go for for fuck.

Few locals guys come chat with me on separate times as they was curious to see mzungu here. I ask how much they pay for short time both guys said 1 k + 300 room.

Later I went to another place calling eureka club its just next street from Sabina joy but at 5 pm it has just 4-5 girls inside I walk around and after left as 7 pm the bus coming to pick up people to airport from hotel for fly to tana.

[Mombie75]

Good old Sabina Joy.

They used to have girls dancing on poles and parading around almost naked but now it is just another loud bar.

I sometimes watch EPL there if I am passing and there is a game on. As you say the odd local man will ask a few questions and have a chat out of curiousity.

The women tend to be on the larger side but no doubt the odd diamond could pop up.

Worth a visit if in town as it is still 1 k + 300 for short time you say!

On a side note, not far from there on Sheikh Karuma Road there is Central Park Hotel it has a every good Sauna and Steam room. No women, just very good for relaxing if you enjoy that kind of thing, 1000 ks.

[Radical Guy]

I'll be in Kenya in a two weeks, staying for 3 weeks. I've been on Badoo screening for prospects. I've screened out (1) all girls over 24, (2) all girls who've ever had kids, (3) obvious P4 P girls, (4) chubby or fat girls, (5) those with shaved pussies (I like a natural Bush), and (6) all those who ever asked for money or even hinted about same. Still, after all that screening, I'm left with 6 gorgeous prospects who swear that I'm the man of their dreams. Now I know that virtually ALL Kenyan girls have some interests of a financial nature, but my feeling is that all of these remains girls are just hopeful that I'll fall in love and petition them for a fiancée visa to the US. Hence, they are motivated to make my visit a mind blowing experience. But who do I pick? And who do I disappoint? Tough choice!

RG.

[Mombie75]

I'll be in Kenya in a two weeks, staying for 3 weeks. I've been on Badoo screening for prospects. I've screened out (1) all girls over 24, (2) all girls who've ever had kids, (3) obvious P4 P girls, (4) chubby or fat girls, (5) those with shaved pussies (I like a natural Bush), and (6) all those who ever asked for money or even hinted about same. Still, after all that screening, I'm left with 6 gorgeous prospects who swear that I'm the man of their dreams. Now I know that virtually ALL Kenyan girls have some interests of a financial nature, but my feeling is that all of these remains girls are just hopeful that I'll fall in love and petition them for a fiance visa to the US. Hence, they are motivated to make my visit a mind blowing experience. But who do I pick? And who do I disappoint? Tough choiceWell, all those girls have lied to you, how do I know? Simple, all Kenyans constantly tell lies.

They are not stupid as you may think and certainly know your game. It comes down to you trying to fuck them and them trying to get whatever they are looking for from you.

You are not their first badoo rodeo.

[Drifter86]

Hey guys I have found a lady that has a link up to a very nice exotic and safe air bnb close to the town center. In addition to that she will provide ladies for you fine ladies clean and honest. She will also provide all types of entertainment and show you all the good spots to drink and party. Long story short vibes on vibes. Kindly contact her and tell her all your needs and she will sort you out. Pictures of the place and the ladies as well will be provided. Everything above board. [Deleted by Admin]

[Radical Guy]

Well, all those girls have lied to you, how do I know? Simple, all Kenyans constantly tell lies.

They are not stupid as you may think and certainly know your game. It comes down to you trying to fuck them and them trying to get whatever they are looking for from you.

You are not their first badoo rodeo.Well, of course they assume that all white people are "rich," which is a very low bar by Kenyan standards. But they are pretty much "normal" girls, not professional working girls. For example, one girl is a just-graduated nursing student. She actually had me on camera watching her graduation, so I know that's not fake. The only money I sent her I volunteered, so she could get a depo shot at a nearby clinic. She even sent me a copy of the invoice without my asking for it. (The price for the shot was 2,800 shillings, peanuts as far as I'm concerned.).

I wasn't born yesterday. I know that none of these girls are virgins, which I wouldn't want anyway. I simply have no interest in the over P4 P mentality. I prefer the illusion of a real girlfriend experience.

[Mzungunairobi]

I am looking for some good daytime fun in Nairobi. Ideally incall so that I don't have to provide the room. Any thoughts on massage parlors or other options near Ngong / Kilimani / Hurlingham?

[Tacoma101]

Well, of course they assume that all white people are "rich," which is a very low bar by Kenyan standards. But they are pretty much "normal" girls, not professional working girls. For example, one girl is a just-graduated nursing student. She actually had me on camera watching her graduation, so I know that's not fake. The only money I sent her I volunteered, so she could get a depo shot at a nearby clinic. She even sent me a copy of the invoice without my asking for it. (The price for the shot was 2,800 shillings, peanuts as far as I'm concerned.).

I wasn't born yesterday. I know that none of these girls are virgins, which I wouldn't want anyway. I simply have no interest in the over P4 P mentality. I prefer the illusion of a real girlfriend experience.I travel the world with your same mindset! Well done! We are unicorns, sir! But we are unicorns with a TON of very unique stories.

[BPalacio]

Just returned from a Pattaya trip. Feeling a bit unsatisfied and burnt out from mongering in Thailand. (Two reports were made; warning. I'm quite introverted and so my reports were not necessarily typical). Oddly enough my best session was with an African girl. So I've plotted to go to the source and have a trip tentatively planned for Nairobi in February. Just a few questions:

1. Are hotels or AirBnBs best for Kenya? Are both fairly easy to bring back guests? Do you have to sign in your guests and have them leave their IDs like in Thailand? If I were to go for an Airbnb, should I ask the guest prior if I can bring back girls or would I be fine just bringing them back without informing the host?

2. For say a week's vacation, would it be best to stay in Nairobi for the entire week or would it be feasible to spend at least a few days in Mombasa?

3. Are girls on apps (tinder, Badoo, tagged) easy to get to agree to a pay for play arrangement? Or is it a soft arrangement where you're better for not talking payment and just giving them money in the morning? Are you expected to go through the whole Song and dance of flirting or is it fine to be upfront with expected arrangements (I. E. I'll pay you for an hour or fun)?

[Radical Guy]

Just returned from a Pattaya trip. Feeling a bit unsatisfied and burnt out from mongering in Thailand. (Two reports were made; warning. I'm quite introverted and so my reports were not necessarily typical). Oddly enough my best session was with an African girl. So I've plotted to go to the source and have a trip tentatively planned for Nairobi in February. Just a few questions:

1. Are hotels or AirBnBs best for Kenya? Are both fairly easy to bring back guests? Do you have to sign in your guests and have them leave their IDs like in Thailand? If I were to go for an Airbnb, should I ask the guest prior if I can bring back girls or would I be fine just bringing them back without informing the host?

2. For say a week's vacation, would it be best to stay in Nairobi for the entire week or would it be feasible to spend at least a few days in Mombasa?

3. Are girls on apps (tinder, Badoo, tagged) easy to get to agree to a pay for play arrangement? Or is it a soft arrangement where you're better for not talking payment and just giving them money in the morning? Are you expected to go through the whole Song and dance of flirting or is it fine to be upfront with expected arrangements (I. E. I'll pay you for an hour or fun)?Personally, I prefer Mombasa. Flights on Kenya Airways are cheap between Nairobi and Mombasa. I don't know about Airbnb in Nairobi, but I've used them a lot on Mombasa. I've never had a host ask for my lady's ID. As for Tinder, Badoo, etc. , I NEVER talk about pay for play. But you'll be a rock star in Kenya. Girls there will just spread their legs at the drop of a hat, especially if you're white. Just treat them well, take 'them for dinner / drinks, and they will fuck your brains out. Girls don't like to feel like prostitutes, even if they're hoping for a bit of remuneration in the morning.

RG.

[Slowalk]

If you're coming from the Americas for just one week, I would stick to one location. You'll be jet lagged the entire trip and spend too much time on the move.

Nairobi is high altitude and cool, especially at night. I hang in Westlands when I go to Nairobi. Mombasa is hot and humid. Also, although Mombasa is a city, people refer to the entire coast as "Mombasa". I moved from Western highlands and living in Malindi for now.

Whatever platform you use to get a room, to be safe, book for two. Only the higher end hotels will require her to have an ID. Most wont care.

Set up Wise and WorldRemit (as a backup) before you travel then go straight to Safaricom and set up mPesa mobile money upon arrival. The convenience, exchange rates and safety for accessing funds is a huge factor why I live in Kenya.

Lessons I have to continually learn the hard way:

1) Don't be generous. It works the opposite of what you intend it to and will harm you rather than help you. They expect more once you show generosity. Seriously, it's like feeding dangerous wildlife. They all eventually steal.

2) They all lie for no reason even if the truth is to their benefit.

3) It's actually harder to rid yourself of her than it is to find her and she's very easy to find. Dont talk money. She wont talk money but know that she absolutely wants money and its why she’s with you. But, if she wants to invite a friend, nothing good will come of it. Assume she's not into you and you're a game to her.

[Mombie75]

If you're coming from the Americas for just one week, I would stick to one location. You'll be jet lagged the entire trip and spend too much time on the move.
Set up Wise and WorldRemit (as a backup) before you travel then go straight to Safaricom and set up mPesa mobile money upon arrival.
1) Don't be generous. It works the opposite of what you intend it to and will harm you rather than help you. They expect more once you show generosity. Seriously, it's like feeding dangerous wildlife. They all eventually steal.

2) They all lie for no reason even if the truth is to their benefit.

3) It's actually harder to rid yourself of her than it is to find her and she's very easy to find. Dont talk money. She wont talk money but know that she absolutely wants money and its why shes with you. But, if she wants to invite a friend, nothing good will come of it. Assume she's not into you and you're a game to her.These are good tips from slowalk.

They all steal, very true. They all expect more and more until you are mean for not giving them what they want.

Lie, lie, lie it really is comical at times. They can't help it.

Good point, if they bring a friend they are not into you or they would not risk that friend stealing you. I.

The only bit I don't agree with. Money.

I like agree up front as I don't want drama afterwards, if you give them 5 k they may then argue for 10 k, Now it is a pain and a hassle to get rid of them in such secenario.

[King Amir]

All the girls I met with are Tinder girls. I spoke to them for a few days before I arrived.

Out of a week I met with 8 girls.

I didn't even pay them one shill, it's very easy to bring a girl home if you're a foreign guy, and a young man.

Yes I paid for their transport and meals.

It is important to talk to them a few days before arrival and try to connect, some will ask for money and some will not, and some will try to raise money from you and do it smoothly with some excuse like "my cellphone is lost, we can't talk at all" she probably expects you to buy a new cellphone.

The local women in Kenya love sex, they know the job.

I was amazed at the amount of girls who want to meet, it didn't happen to me in my country, I would give you an example, I had at least 4 girls who wanted to meet in the evening and I had to choose one of them, it was hard, and I was sorry I only came for a week.

Good apps:

Bolt- a very cheap taxi app in Nairobi.

Safaricom.

Get ready to get glances for a few seconds from people in the street.

Children on the street may have to contact you with the goal of asking for money and will not leave you.

Keep your cellphone close to you!

[Slowalk]

The only bit I don't agree with. Money.
I like agree up front as I don't want drama afterwards, if you give them 5 k they may then argue for 10 k, Now it is a pain and a hassle to get rid of them in such secenario.When you deal with pros, absolutely pay up front.

When you deal with non pros, I never mention money. I just send it to her what I want and she's wet.

I should point out that if you’re young and attractive, you’re her dream and you pay nothing. If you’re older, sophisticated and attractive, it’s up to you but if you’re old, fat and don’t make an effort to look presentable, you are not what she’s looking for and she wants much more. Stands to reason.

[Leblon]

When you deal with pros, absolutely pay up front.

When you deal with non pros, I never mention money. I just send it to her what I want and she's wet.

I should point out that if youre young and attractive, youre her dream and you pay nothing. If youre older, sophisticated and attractive, its up to you but if youre old, fat and dont make an effort to look presentable, you are not what shes looking for and she wants much more. Stands to reason.Not pay up front, never. I guess you meant that agree the prize and all possible terms before taking girl in your room. If you pay before, girl don't have motivation anymore to give good service.

[BPalacio]

Thank you to everyone who took time to answer my newbie questions. I do appreciate it.

I ideally would like to net non-pros, but I honestly am more comfortable being upfront with expected services and what she can be expected to be paid for those services. I understand that's not very organic and might even be a bit off-putting, but it sounds like that's the safest way to approach mongering in Kenya. It's also how I approached mongering in Thailand, so it's the method with which I am most comfortable.

I am not the best at small talk and playing the flirting game. I also wouldn't have much time for my trip, especially factoring in the time I can expect to be jetlagged, so I think being upfront with these women that I'm looking to pay for play is best.

I also have read through this thread quite a bit and I definitely know to keep my guard up. I know mongering in Africa will be quite different from Thailand, so I hope I keep my resolve when I land!

Just a quick question about Mpesa: do girls prefer Mpesa or cash? Can you fund your Mpesa wallet with cash? I will be carrying quite a bit with me and usually in Thailand I just exchange my USD. I have heard that Mpesa is widely used everywhere and it's much more convenient, so I am open to just using my cash to fund my Mpesa wallet instead of exchanging it for KSH. That is if the women there prefer this and if it's widely accepted elsewhere (restaurants, shopping centers, etc).

*Additional question: I know it was suggested that I stay in one location if I only had a week, but I am interested in hearing more about the pros and cons of Nairobi vs Mombasa. From my understanding, Nairobi will be more expensive but offers better lodging, food options, and maybe more selection in terms of women? From what I've read in the Mombasa thread, it sounds like Mombasa is cheaper, slower and more relaxing, but it seems like the lodging options aren't as nice and maybe the selection of women isn't as vast as Nairobi?

[Muzungufotsy]

Thank you to everyone who took time to answer my newbie questions. I do appreciate it.

I ideally would like to net non-pros, but I honestly am more comfortable being upfront with expected services and what she can be expected to be paid for those services. I understand that's not very organic and might even be a bit off-putting, but it sounds like that's the safest way to approach mongering in Kenya. It's also how I approached mongering in Thailand, so it's the method with which I am most comfortable.

I am not the best at small talk and playing the flirting game. I also wouldn't have much time for my trip, especially factoring in the time I can expect to be jetlagged, so I think being upfront with these women that I'm looking to pay for play is best.

I also have read through this thread quite a bit and I definitely know to keep my guard up. I know mongering in Africa will be quite different from Thailand, so I hope I keep my resolve when I land!

Just a quick question about Mpesa: do girls prefer Mpesa or cash? Can you fund your Mpesa wallet with cash? I will be carrying quite a bit with me and usually in Thailand I just exchange my USD. I have heard that Mpesa is widely used everywhere and it's much more convenient, so I am open to just using my cash to fund my Mpesa wallet instead of exchanging it for KSH. That is if the women there prefer this and if it's widely accepted elsewhere (restaurants, shopping centers, etc).

*Additional question: I know it was suggested that I stay in one location if I only had a week, but I am interested in hearing more about the pros and cons of Nairobi vs Mombasa. From my understanding, Nairobi will be more expensive but offers better lodging, food options, and maybe more selection in terms of women? From what I've read in the Mombasa thread, it sounds like Mombasa is cheaper, slower and more relaxing, but it seems like the lodging options aren't as nice and maybe the selection of women isn't as vast as Nairobi?Not pay up front, never. How many times are we supposed to tell you this until you understand? Stay in Thailand if you can't do that.

[BPalacio]

Not pay up front, never. How many times are we supposed to tell you this until you understand? Stay in Thailand if you can't do that.English must not be your first language? No one said anything about paying upfront. I mentioned that I would be upfront about prices to be paid after services are rendered. You need to work on your reading comprehension, lad.

[Slowalk]

Not pay up front, never. I guess you meant that agree the prize and all possible terms before taking girl in your room. If you pay before, girl don't have motivation anymore to give good service.Good catch. I meant agree to terms up front. I'm the worst editor of my own posts.

[Slowalk]

Thank you to everyone who took time to answer my newbie questions. I do appreciate it.


Just a quick question about Mpesa: do girls prefer Mpesa or cash? Can you fund your Mpesa wallet with cash? I will be carrying quite a bit with me and usually in Thailand I just exchange my USD. I have heard that Mpesa is widely used everywhere and it's much more convenient, so I am open to just using my cash to fund my Mpesa wallet instead of exchanging it for KSH. That is if the women there prefer this and if it's widely accepted elsewhere (restaurants, shopping centers, etc).

I recommend you set up Wise and WorldRemit apps before you leave the US. Then, add to mPESA once you set up a Safaricom number and mPESA account at Safaicom. You can add to mPESA electronically without touching cash at all. If you must bring cash, you can exchange USD for KSh at the airport or at one of the many FOREX then go to any mPESA shop and turn Kenya Shillings into mPESA. You can exchange $100 at local Indian groceries on the coast for better rates. Someone can advise which ones.

*Additional question: I know it was suggested that I stay in one location if I only had a week, but I am interested in hearing more about the pros and cons of Nairobi vs Mombasa. From my understanding, Nairobi will be more expensive but offers better lodging, food options, and maybe more selection in terms of women? From what I've read in the Mombasa thread, it sounds like Mombasa is cheaper, slower and more relaxing, but it seems like the lodging options aren't as nice and maybe the selection of women isn't as vast as Nairobi?For newcomers, the coast is set up better for tourists so, try Bamburi Beach, Diani Beach or Malindi. Its hot and humid. Its no Pattaya, however.

I want to spend some time near Thika near Kenyatta University but I can't give first person advise about that area north of Nairobi. My neighbor is young and he reported that they "more that one has ripped my clothes off me. ".

[Rwenotmen]

I simply have no interest in the over P4P mentality. I prefer the illusion of a real girlfriend experience.Metaphysics aside, many have posted in so many words that whatever your experience is with the Kenyan ladies, it's still transactional, P4 P or GFE. None of us should be fooled, or so foolish, not to recognize: you WILL pay, one way or the other. Just be sure it's to your benefit.

Although I certainly already knew this by heart, I just got hard reminded of it during my recent trip: meet a "college" (in Kenya, colleges are for those who can't afford or don't have the grades for university) Kenchic via Tinder, who was more alluring than sexy based on her pics & vids from her profile. Still, ended up hooking up with her, in person she was really a hot number, slim but fully sexy in the way she dressed, and better au naturel perfect t&a. Was a sweet spinner in the sack, and has good head game. We quickly established a girl friendly experience (GFE), she INITIALLY seems eager just to have someone (foreign) to hang with during Christmas holidays, at a fancy apt complex with pool, chill common areas, gameroom, etc. I was glad to have the company. And the sex. No money was ever negotiated but of course it was free food, wine, transport, some phone credit, traveling, entertainment to her. All on my expense.

It lasted about 10 days--the illusion turned to reality when she realized she wasn't getting direct cash, so she started holding back on 'services'. The final straw for both of us is when she went to bed with her clothes on, and woke up playing with her phone rather than with me. I concluded the illusion by telling her, that same morning, that I was totally busy that day so she had to go home. I never said we would meet again, nor did I even give her fare to go home. We haven't texted since. That was the end of that.

Still, Fun while it lasted.

[Neddy69]

Metaphysics aside, many have posted in so many words that whatever your experience is with the Kenyan ladies, it's still transactional, P4 P or GFE. None of us should be fooled, or so foolish, not to recognize: you WILL pay, one way or the other. Just be sure it's to your benefit.

Although I certainly already knew this by heart, I just got hard reminded of it during my recent trip: meet a "college" (in Kenya, colleges are for those who can't afford or don't have the grades for university) Kenchic via Tinder, who was more alluring than sexy based on her pics & vids from her profile. Still, ended up hooking up with her, in person she was really a hot number, slim but fully sexy in the way she dressed, and better au naturel perfect t&a. Was a sweet spinner in the sack, and has good head game. We quickly established a girl friendly experience (GFE), she INITIALLY seems eager just to have someone (foreign) to hang with during Christmas holidays, at a fancy apt complex with pool, chill common areas, gameroom, etc. I was glad to have the company. And the sex. No money was ever negotiated but of course it was free food, wine, transport, some phone credit, traveling, entertainment to her. All on my expense..Very apt description. If no cash is forthcoming. To wine and dine. Rookie mistake. Straight cash transaction and bullshit about "I love you baby" works out much cheaper and cost effective. These college girls are all after funding. Like university students. Just do the deed give money in the morning. Then she can buy herself public transport and kuku with chips. Of course she romances you to become one of her lovers to help funding her studies. Sugar daddy deals. But you're not the only one. Sooner or later reality sets in. After all. It's better to keep to transactional jiggi jiggi. Don't worry. Once you're in her data base. I. E. Phone contact Shree going to call you again. As I have reiterated before. Wine and dine useless expense. No need to romance an African girl. Utter waste of money. With cash you help her with her actual living expenses.

Mwalimu.

[Radical Guy]

Very apt description. If no cash is forthcoming. To wine and dine. Rookie mistake. Straight cash transaction and bullshit about "I love you baby" works out much cheaper and cost effective. These college girls are all after funding. Like university students. Just do the deed give money in the morning. Then she can buy herself public transport and kuku with chips. Of course she romances you to become one of her lovers to help funding her studies. Sugar daddy deals. But you're not the only one. Sooner or later reality sets in. After all. It's better to keep to transactional jiggi jiggi. Don't worry. Once you're in her data base. I. E. Phone contact Shree going to call you again. As I have reiterated before. Wine and dine useless expense. No need to romance an African girl. Utter waste of money. With cash you help her with her actual living expenses.

Mwalimu.But the romancing part can be fun, even if one knows it's an illusion. I have no qualms about being less than honest with the ladies.

RG.

[Senser]

A first timer to Africa, I traveled to Nairobi in early January 2024 for 10 days. It wasn't a pure mongering trip, but in this post I will focus on just that. Many things written in this forum are true, so I will just add a few personal observations.

CLUBS: Nairobi Street Kitchen is full on Thursdays. Alchemist seems quiet on weekdays and busy on weekends. Generally, nightlife in Westlands seems to start at midnight. During the week, one needs to know which clubs are "hot", especially Monday to Wednesday.

STRIPCLUB: Liddos was closed (temporarily, it seems). Standing in the street and trying to figure out what to do next, I ran into the only Kenyan guy that did not want something from me. He mentioned "207 Lounge" and walked away. I was quoted at the door 1 HR 4 k KSH incl. Room, 12 HR takeout 10 k KSH. Not cheap, but 50% of the girls were young and hot. Small, friendly and "cozy" place with a massive outdoor area with separated, open tents to sit in. Didn't see a foreigner there.

APPS: Girls on apps are young, horny, and abundant. Many are blessed with bodies that Western women couldn't achieve even if they worked out 5 days a week. As a rule of thumb, Tinder is more for paid hook-ups whereas Bumble is more for girls with "normal jobs". As the latter doesn't mean much in Kenya, realistically, the differences are minimal. The "programmer" you match with on Bumble may be really able to code, or just "plans" to be a programmer "next year". In general, if you want "normal" dating (I. E. , without pre-arranged service agreements), be prepared to be taken advantage of. Not always, but sometimes. Which brings me to the next point:

CULTURE: Kenyans are open and friendly, however, the amount of time and effort they are willing to invest just to get a few bucks out of you is simply mind-boggling. Guys on the streets will walk with you for hours and tell you the nicest stories about orphanages, schools etc. Just to get something out of you, even if it's just a few hundred shilling. Girls, especially the "regular" girls with "jobs", will spend entire afternoons and evenings with you for a a few drinks, or a dinner. If you're strictly after sex, it makes more sense to go for the semi-pro's with the pre-arranged "taxi money". If you want the thrill of "regular dating", be prepared to be astonished by the level of work Kenyan girls put in for a little bit of attention and a hot dish. Without guaranteed sex. As most Kenyan women, pro or non-pro, generally enjoy jokes and appreciate a healthy amount of dirty smalltalk, I suggest to do just that before the date in a relaxed & playful manner and filter out the ones that are not responsive (BTW this strategy works in the West too, although you must be more careful and less direct).

CONCLUSION: After a self-imposed 2-year hiatus from dating in order to free up energy to work on myself, I enjoyed Kenya a lot. The feeling of dating a hot 20-something that can hold a conversation (yes, they exist), and has a good sense of humor, meant a lot to me. Nevertheless, "regular" dating in Kenya means there's a chance you run into girls that will take you for a ride without putting out. In Europe, I have a three-date rule, in Kenya that's down to two dates, and I almost believe that's still one date too much. Kenya's economy and demographics means that there's not too much of a difference both in looks and brains between semi-pro's and "regular girls". They all need to make a living. And that's the true value that Kenya holds for men: There's an abundance of women everywhere. Whatever you do, you will get laid by a hot 20-something that loves having sex.

[Mombie75]

A first timer to Africa, I traveled to Nairobi in early January 2024 for 10 days. It wasn't a pure mongering trip, but in this post I will focus on just that. Many things written in this forum are true, so I will just add a few personal observations.

CLUBS: Nairobi Street Kitchen is full on Thursdays.

"207 Lounge" I was quoted at the door 1 HR 4 k KSH incl. Room, 12 HR takeout 10 k KSH. Not cheap, but 50% of the girls were young and hot. Small, friendly and "cozy" place with a massive outdoor area with separated, open tents to sit in. Where are these two places. Anymore info?

Thanks.

[Chris Bigdog]

I prefer sex without a condom (obviously) and the CDC says that the pills reduce the chance of getting HIV by 99%.

While not 100%; that's pretty good.

Need a prescription etc in US; and intermittent users can follow a 2-1-1 schedule.

It is also known as "intermittent," "non-daily," "event-driven," or "off-label" PrEP use.

The type of "on-demand" PrEP that has been studied is the "2-1-1" schedule. This means taking 2 pills 2-24 hours before sex, 1 pill 24 hours after the first dose, and 1 pill 24 hours after the second dose.

There is scientific evidence that the "2-1-1" schedule provides effective protection for gay and bisexual men* when having anal sex without a condom.

We don't know how "on-demand" PrEP works for heterosexual men and women, people who inject drugs, and transgender persons.

The are some side effects of course but seem to be tolerated pretty well.

So does anyone know if you can get them there?

Been to a Kenya a few times and met 'nice' - ok smart women who wanted to get a rapid HIV test together.

This is great but not for a quick pickup.

Thoughts?

[SeanBenz]

I prefer sex without a condom (obviously) and the CDC says that the pills reduce the chance of getting HIV by 99%.

While not 100%; that's pretty good.

Need a prescription etc in US; and intermittent users can follow a 2-1-1 schedule.

It is also known as "intermittent," "non-daily," "event-driven," or "off-label" PrEP use.

The type of "on-demand" PrEP that has been studied is the "2-1-1" schedule. This means taking 2 pills 2-24 hours before sex, 1 pill 24 hours after the first dose, and 1 pill 24 hours after the second dose.

There is scientific evidence that the "2-1-1" schedule provides effective protection for gay and bisexual men* when having anal sex without a condom.

We don't know how "on-demand" PrEP works for heterosexual men and women, people who inject drugs, and transgender persons.

The are some side effects of course but seem to be tolerated pretty well.

So does anyone know if you can get them there?

Been to a Kenya a few times and met 'nice' - ok smart women who wanted to get a rapid HIV test together.

This is great but not for a quick pickup.

Thoughts?Its best to do the daily one. Research of prep in CIS / heterosexual males is not the greatest. There simply aren't enough studies (opinion) or at least they are not as visible or well reported as those done on gay men, trans and women.

There are whispers that event based can be done by straight men who are insertive partners, but they seem to be just whispers. (https://i-base.info/guides/prep/on-demand). The rational for that seem to be since gay insertive partners can use event based by extension straight men can also do the same with the vag.

I am a big fan of prep, just personally I just do the daily one for the 3 or 4 weeks I monger internationally. 7 days before possible exposure and 7 days after possible exposure. No problem.

[Senser]

Where are these two places. Anymore info?

Thanks.
Feel free to look them up in Google Maps, there are plenty of pics and reviews. NSH is open during the day and you can check out the numerous restaurants. Thursday is Latino night on the second floor, which becomes a dance floor. I ubered my way there straight to the entrance, just type in the name and the driver will know. Nairobi Street Kitchen is in Westlands, 207 Lounge Bar is on Amboseli Lane, a bit hidden away besides the street. The owners have another lounge bar, which also starts with "2". Unfortunately I have forgotten the name and haven't been there. Anyone visiting 257, please leave a review here. It was my first and only time to a hooker-bar, I can't provide comparisons to Sabina Joy etc.

[Chris Bigdog]

Its best to do the daily one. Research of prep in CIS / heterosexual males is not the greatest. There simply aren't enough studies (opinion) or at least they are not as visible or well reported as those done on gay men, trans and women.

There are whispers that event based can be done by straight men who are insertive partners, but they seem to be just whispers. (https://i-base.info/guides/prep/on-demand). The rational for that seem to be since gay insertive partners can use event based by extension straight men can also do the same with the vag.

I am a big fan of prep, just personally I just do the daily one for the 3 or 4 weeks I monger internationally. 7 days before possible exposure and 7 days after possible exposure. No problem.SeanBenz -.

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds like the TD / FTC PReP is the one to go with; yes?

But there risks associated with it, notably kidney issues.

I'm 55 which puts me over the 50 age its mentioned.

Also where do you get it?

Could order online but a lot less comfortable ordering that than I might Viagra from an Indian pharmacy!

Chris.

[Mahku]

Hi all. The girls that came to my room, all from Tinder, were allowed in for free after registration at the front desk. Sometimes they didn't even bother with the registration, especially if it was earlier in the evening. My booking was for 2 people anyway. And it may help that I'm VIP status in Radisson Rewards, equivalent to the former Platinum status. But I have a feeling it's the same for everybody.

The hotel is in a great location. Short ride to Westlands. The tollway entrance is fairly close, so rides to and from the airport don't take long.

The Arboretum, a tree park that appears to be a former colonial estate, is a great place for a run or a power walk, especially in the cool Nairobi climate. The area is secure and quiet, but not far from action. The bar, restaurant, and pool here seem to attract groups or pairs of probably upper middle class office girl / student types.

[SeanBenz]

SeanBenz -.

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds like the TD / FTC PReP is the one to go with; yes?

But there risks associated with it, notably kidney issues.

I'm 55 which puts me over the 50 age its mentioned.

Also where do you get it?

Could order online but a lot less comfortable ordering that than I might Viagra from an Indian pharmacy!

Chris.https://www.purchase-prep.com/ (they get some of their supplies from India, it's legit look around).

I have gotten mine from that website twice with no issues.

But since I am in the UK I have also gotten it free on the national health care service, they were hesitant since I am not gay but acquiesced when I told them I was going to Africa to see old girlfriends lols.

And one time I got it in Bkk at a red cross can't remember the exact location it was before the pandemic when I was there so a while now.

It's best to talk / attend a sexual health clinic, yes your are right kidney function and liver function tests will need to be done to see if your baseline is the desired range. At sexual health clinics they do this for everyone regardless of age.

They also need to check if you have hep be because taking and stopping it when you have that is not advisable.

You can do all the test in Kenya it's probably cheaper but get your prep e online. Although given sub Saharan Africa's hiv rates you could probably get some in Nairobi as well.

[BPalacio]

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?

[Mombie75]

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?I take it that the Airbnb has an entrance gate with security on it? If so, it is likely they will want to see ID. If no ID a small payment is usually accepted.

[World Jockey]

I know it's probably not comparable to Pattaya, but are most airbnbs and hotels in Nairobi alright with allowing girls up to your room? Should I ask if the Airbnb host / hotel allows girls to join you? Are there places where you can just have the girl leave their ID at security / front desk and come up?

I was suggested W Place apartments as a good girl friendly option. Any other suggestions?I like the W place. They will check ID, a pic of ID or just pay the guard off.

Aside from that many places with a guard will check ID.

Recently there have been some women brutally murdered so by men at airbnbs so there may be more scrutiny.

[BPalacio]

I take it that the Airbnb has an entrance gate with security on it? If so, it is likely they will want to see ID. If no ID a small payment is usually accepted.My apologies, I meant generally as I do not have a specific AirBnB in mind. Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.

[Mombie75]

My apologies, I meant generally as I do not have a specific AirBnB in mind. Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.Book the airbnb for two people. Gate security have a log book to keep a check on who comes and goes. Sometimes a girl will not have her ID on her, then you just give the security a few $, the majority will let them in.

Check with hotel before booking.

[Rwenotmen]

Book the airbnb for two people.Don't do this.

No offense to Brother Mombie! I honor & respect his contributions.

The reason why not is following.


Was just wondering what the protocol would be, specifically if mongering is accepted by most hotels and airbnbs in Nairobi or if I should contact the airbnb / hotel to ask if they allow girls to come up?

Are you saying that as long as there's an entrance with security, girls will probably be allowed to come up if they leave their ID, similar to how it is in Pattaya? I am ok with giving security a few KSH for their troubles too if that helps. I just worry that the host would not accept this and cause trouble for me.I've not been to Pattaya, Thailand, other Asian countries (except China) so maybe we're missing some nuance of what you're asking.

Sorry for long write-up but I seem to use these Abbs more than most here, so I got the direct experiences to describe, at least for Kenya.

All 'homestays', Airbnb is no different, are by definition 'girl-friendly' and visitor-friendly-- you DON'T need permission to invite whomever you wish to 'visit' you. Not from the Host, not from the guards, not from anyone. Don't even mention or ask Hosts about such visitations.

Yes there are rules about no parties and too many guests actually staying in the unit. But your 'visitors' are presumed your business.

What you may be worried about is the security factor and how that will affect having visitors. In my experience, the most-secure apartment buildings in Kenya DO want you to formally register your visitors -- but only after a certain hour, usually at 'sunset' 7 pm and later. During the daytime, they almost never ask who's with you. In both cases, you can bring as many as you like. At the last place I stayed, I overheard one guard joke about how I had so many visitors (he meant ladies) come thru in just one day. He didn't say anything directly to me, as that could have jeopardized his job if I complained to the supervisor.

And there's never a charge or fee for registering or the number of visitors. I recommend never stay at such a place if they ask for money for these, even if it's just guards trying to squeeze some extra cash out of you.

Registering your visitors is a security measure that protects you, the visitors, and more importantly--the guards: if any drama or violence happens, they know who you are, as an official Guest or Resident, and who are the visitors. The guards are paid to keep the peace for Residents and Guests, NOT for visitors.

Do tell the ladies in-advance they should bring their ID - even if not needed. But it's not always needed, at some places as they will take her phone number, and some other details, and register her that way. At least that's what happened at the last place I stayed.

One big way this protects you is if the girl tries to squeeze you for more money, or starts to act-out in order to embarrass you or cause trouble. Because YOU are the official guest, immediately go the guards and ask them to boot that banshee off the premises. They will do that without question. Although they might expect a bit of a 'tip', LOL.

I've also found that girls who normally would act like this typically do not want to go to such buildings, because they know they can't pull their bullshit or drama. If some Kenchic gives you excuses why she won't visit your place once you've told her where it is, take that as dodging a bullet and drop her.

An extra benefit: for those Kenchics who are serious about safety, they actually PREFER such buildings because they assume YOU won't be a criminal or killer endangering them. So I would advise to actively tell the ladies about where you stay, so they will feel safer.

Lastly, MOST Homestays do NOT register visitors, even places that have formal-looking security guards. So if you do stay at a place like that, then you'll be even freer to bring whomever you like, how many you like, at any times. Of course, these places may not be as safer as the securer homestays.

[BPalacio]

Book the airbnb for two people. Gate security have a log book to keep a check on who comes and goes. Sometimes a girl will not have her ID on her, then you just give the security a few $, the majority will let them in.

Check with hotel before booking.Thank you. It does sound like the protocol or more or less like Thailand then regarding signing in guests.


Don't do this.

No offense to Brother Mombie! I honor & respect his contributions.

The reason why not is following.

I've not been to Pattaya, Thailand, other Asian countries (except China) so maybe we're missing some nuance of what you're asking.

Sorry for long write-up but I seem to use these Abbs more than most here, so I got the direct experiences to describe, at least for Kenya.

All 'homestays', Airbnb is no different, are by definition 'girl-friendly' and visitor-friendly-- you DON'T need permission to invite whomever you wish to 'visit' you. Not from the Host, not from the guards, not from anyone. Don't even mention or ask Hosts about such visitations.

Yes there are rules about no parties and too many guests actually staying in the unit. But your 'visitors' are presumed your business.

What you may be worried about is the security factor and how that will affect having visitors. In my experience, the most-secure apartment buildings in Kenya DO want you to formally register your visitors -- but only after a certain hour, usually at 'sunset' 7 pm and later. During the daytime, they almost never ask who's with you. In both cases, you can bring as many as you like. At the last place I stayed, I overheard one guard joke about how I had so many visitors (he meant ladies) come thru in just one day. He didn't say anything directly to me, as that could have jeopardized his job if I complained to the supervisor.

And there's never a charge or fee for registering or the number of visitors. I recommend never stay at such a place if they ask for money for these, even if it's just guards trying to squeeze some extra cash out of you.

Registering your visitors is a security measure that protects you, the visitors, and more importantly--the guards: if any drama or violence happens, they know who you are, as an official Guest or Resident, and who are the visitors. The guards are paid to keep the peace for Residents and Guests, NOT for visitors.

Do tell the ladies in-advance they should bring their ID - even if not needed. But it's not always needed, at some places as they will take her phone number, and some other details, and register her that way. At least that's what happened at the last place I stayed.

One big way this protects you is if the girl tries to squeeze you for more money, or starts to act-out in order to embarrass you or cause trouble. Because YOU are the official guest, immediately go the guards and ask them to boot that banshee off the premises. They will do that without question. Although they might expect a bit of a 'tip', LOL.

I've also found that girls who normally would act like this typically do not want to go to such buildings, because they know they can't pull their bullshit or drama. If some Kenchic gives you excuses why she won't visit your place once you've told her where it is, take that as dodging a bullet and drop her.

An extra benefit: for those Kenchics who are serious about safety, they actually PREFER such buildings because they assume YOU won't be a criminal or killer endangering them. So I would advise to actively tell the ladies about where you stay, so they will feel safer.

Lastly, MOST Homestays do NOT register visitors, even places that have formal-looking security guards. So if you do stay at a place like that, then you'll be even freer to bring whomever you like, how many you like, at any times. Of course, these places may not be as safer as the securer homestays.Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge on the matter. I really appreciate it.

I am glad to hear that it's not necessary to alert the AirBnB host about my mongering intentions. I just get quite anxious because it understandably can be an awkward conversation, especially if the host doesn't allow it.

I also appreciate you pointing out the benefits of having a girl leave her ID with security. It never really occured to me that it'd assuage any security concerns she may have as well. Mongering in Thailand you kind of get used to the level of safety and just the expectation that girls will behave, so though you always have to have your visitors check in their IDs, the idea that it protects you and her sometimes I forget. Reading through some of the reports in this thread, I (please correct me if this is wrong or unfair) have seen that Kenyan women sometimes can bring quite a bit of trouble and perhaps are not as safe-easygoing guests as Thai women.

I will be sure to remind all my potential guests that they must bring their IDs. On the off chance that I do need security to handle an unruly guest, would it be wise to slip them some KSH even before the event? Like, slipping them the 5 $USD equivalent in KSH when I first check in just to build a rapport and get in their good graces so if things do get chaotic, they'll already be inclined to help me out?

[Slowalk]

I use Booking.com for the first night in new locations. I move around until I find a location I want to stay then do some leg work. When booking, it varies. If booking for two is similar cost as for one, I book two. If it's significant, I either choose another booking or book for one then move quickly. Regardless, I've only been asked to pay for a guest once the morning after and it was Lambada in Mtwapa. Now, I stay at a guesthouse and I bring someone new day and night. It’s common among guests. I wouldn't worry about it.

[MamaGuevos]

I am on my way back to Africa and have to book a hotel in Nairobi. I have always stayed at the Stanley Hotel in the Central Biz District. It has great rooms and is super friendly to guests.

HOWEVER, the wifi sucks.

Can someone recommend a hotel with excellent wifi that is girl friendly? I really hate struggling with emails and not being able to easily access web sites.

Thanks, MG.

[MamaGuevos]

Hi all. The girls that came to my room, all from Tinder, were allowed in for free after registration at the front desk. Sometimes they didn't even bother with the registration, especially if it was earlier in the evening. My booking was for 2 people anyway. And it may help that I'm VIP status in Radisson Rewards, equivalent to the former Platinum status. But I have a feeling it's the same for everybody.

The hotel is in a great location. Short ride to Westlands. The tollway entrance is fairly close, so rides to and from the airport don't take long.

The Arboretum, a tree park that appears to be a former colonial estate, is a great place for a run or a power walk, especially in the cool Nairobi climate. The area is secure and quiet, but not far from action. The bar, restaurant, and pool here seem to attract groups or pairs of probably upper middle class office girl / student types.Mahku, your inbox is full so I could not pm you. Is the wifi good at the Radisson?

[Mahku]

Mahku, your inbox is full so I could not pm you. Is the wifi good at the Radisson?Yes, the wifi was fine the whole time, including for video calls.

[Litmus Smut]

Hello,

I am looking to venture to Kenya (Mombasa and Nairobi), been doing some research here by RTTF and online via news articles, YouTube. While I am getting an idea, a lot of gaps remain so I would like to get explicit answers to my questions, not just get a vague, soft feel before I commit.

Is there anyone here I can PM directly to ask probably some 5 to 10 questions?

Please let me know. I'd be glad to make a friend and share my experiences if you got questions for me.

[LucaDali]

I am on my way back to Africa and have to book a hotel in Nairobi. I have always stayed at the Stanley Hotel in the Central Biz District. It has great rooms and is super friendly to guests.

HOWEVER, the wifi sucks.

Can someone recommend a hotel with excellent wifi that is girl friendly? I really hate struggling with emails and not being able to easily access web sites.

Thanks, MG.I have been there last year. Supre guest friendly, so friendly that the girl at the reception asked me if I had a nice fuck.

[CA Expert]

Hi everyone,

I am thinking of staying for a week at the Holiday Inn attached to the Two Rivers Mall. I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel? What about tinder, do you think girls would be willing to come to Twoo Rivers Mall to meet me? Or is it better to stay somewhere else? Thanks so much for your help.

[JoeF479]

Hi everyone,

I am thinking of staying for a week at the Holiday Inn attached to the Two Rivers Mall. I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel? What about tinder, do you think girls would be willing to come to Twoo Rivers Mall to meet me? Or is it better to stay somewhere else? Thanks so much for your help.

You will probably find some success talking to women, from my experience, but it won't just be super easy. Not sure what your experiences are, but having been to a few mongering destinations, like in Colombia, chicks are pretty willing to fuck off the rip, they know you want them and most of the ones in the gringo areas are there for that. Kenya is definitely more subtle, unless you are at bar/nightclub where westerners hang on as do pros then it's similar. From what I've read Tinder will be much easier. The people who are there currently for mongering purposes should be able to give you good advice. I've been 5 times to Nairobi, but only had a few experiences. Good luck!!

[JoeF479]

1st let me start with I know, I know. RTFF. I have and I will go back and re-read. That said looking for some advice. I'll be there in late May, early June on a family trip. I will not have a lot of free time and I definitely will not be able to go out at night on my own, and even if by some miracle I'm able to, I won't have a place to bring anyone. Therefore I'm asking the Nairobi experts here, what are some good places that I maybe able to goto during the day if I get 2-3 hours of freedom? I'm staying initially in Hurlingham, then in Village Market and finally most likely Garden City. I had some small success near Hurlingham at a massage place previously. I also was able to just get a BJ at a massage place near Westlands once, but it seemed like I got good mileage there and it wasn't a common thing. Both places I just happened to walk by and then at a later time went back and went in.

If any one has specific day time recommendations please help a fellow monger out.

[Perfecto101]

Hello friends I'm visiting Nairobi for short time like a week or so and I google escorts in Nairobi and I had couple of websites come up my question is how safe and accurate these websites are having an escort from the sites to come to your incall or you go their incalls.

Sorry if this has been asked before.

[MrJibb]

1st let me start with I know, I know. RTFF. I have and I will go back and re-read. That said looking for some advice. I'll be there in late May, early June on a family trip. I will not have a lot of free time and I definitely will not be able to go out at night on my own, and even if by some miracle I'm able to, I won't have a place to bring anyone. Therefore I'm asking the Nairobi experts here, what are some good places that I maybe able to goto during the day if I get 2-3 hours of freedom? I'm staying initially in Hurlingham, then in Village Market and finally most likely Garden City. I had some small success near Hurlingham at a massage place previously. I also was able to just get a BJ at a massage place near Westlands once, but it seemed like I got good mileage there and it wasn't a common thing. Both places I just happened to walk by and then at a later time went back and went in.

If any one has specific day time recommendations please help a fellow monger out.Just get on Tinder dude. I'm currently in Mombasa with a 14 hour lay over in Nairobi flying out. Changed my location to Nairobi and I shit you not had over 200 likes in a day. Select one, get it done, come to their house or rent something, it's not rocket science really, TIA.

[Kavkaz48]

Just get on Tinder dude. I'm currently in Mombasa with a 14 hour lay over in Nairobi flying out. Changed my location to Nairobi and I shit you not had over 200 likes in a day. Select one, get it done, come to their house or rent something, it's not rocket science really, TIA.What's the best approach with Tinder? Do you just openly ask them for a hookup, or is there a more subtle way of doing it?

[JoeF479]

There's absolutely no chance I'm getting on tinder. I have a family. Judge me if you want, but remember we are all mongers here. I was long before I met my wife, and I've tried to reform myself, but I just love pussy and the thrill of new pussy too much. I'm a terrible human being I know.

So would love for a local to offer some advice on a good spot if I can slip away for a few hours.


Just get on Tinder dude. I'm currently in Mombasa with a 14 hour lay over in Nairobi flying out. Changed my location to Nairobi and I shit you not had over 200 likes in a day. Select one, get it done, come to their house or rent something, it's not rocket science really, TIA.

[Radical Guy]

What's the best approach with Tinder? Do you just openly ask them for a hookup, or is there a more subtle way of doing it?I simply say that I'm visiting for vacation and hoping to find a special lady to meet and spend time with. Once I screen out the obvious hard core P4 P sex workers and those with kids, I chat with a select few on WhatsApp. I never promise a full blown relationship, but I'll leave open the possibility. Once I find 2-3 I want to meet, they are real girlfriend experiences. I have yet to select one who didn't practically want to tear off my clothes once we met. No discussions about money, though I'll sometimes spring a few bux for their Uber ride.

[Lakeside32]

I'm goin next month for the first time so I splurged for the Tinder Gold. I matched with a bunch, but They've all been straight headaches. I hope its better on the ground when I get there. Are there any places like the Brasilian termas to take care of your business in Mombasa Nairobi. I just don't need a chica around all the time.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm goin next month for the first time so I splurged for the Tinder Gold. I matched with a bunch, but They've all been straight headaches. I hope its better on the ground when I get there. Are there any places like the Brasilian termas to take care of your business in Mombasa Nairobi. I just don't need a chica around all the time.Why do you say chica as if Kenya is a Spanish speaking country? You do not have to have a girl around all the time. She will come and get the money and go back home.

No need to do it so early. I started when I got there. I was only there 3 days and had more action than I could shake a stick at. For me, Tinder turned up zero matches. That Bumble was a gold mine though.

Go to 207 if you want to fuck girls on premises. 4000 shillings ($27) for 90 minutes. Going to write my reports on everything when I get a chance.

[Neddy69]

I'm goin next month for the first time so I splurged for the Tinder Gold. I matched with a bunch, but They've all been straight headaches. I hope its better on the ground when I get there. Are there any places like the Brasilian termas to take care of your business in Mombasa Nairobi. I just don't need a chica around all the time.If you want Brasilian termas guess what. Go to Brazil. While Prostitution is NOT illegal running a brothel is. In Africa is free enterprise system. You can go to massage parlors or there's a few strip clubs in River Road. Take numbers and fix a date. Tinder a headache? LOL. Welcome to Africa.

Mwalimu.

[MrJibb]

FYI, as has been discussed previously, sexy toys are illegal in Kenya and bringing them in to the country, through customs, for visiting your lady or finding one or a few to spend time with, is not advisable as it will be confiscated and you'll be slapped with a hefty fine. I've been 2 months in Kenya now and found my special lady here, which I'm greatful for. She's running her own business here selling sex toys in Kenya out of her shop / shelfspace in Nairobi as well as through social media to local women mainly, but obviously I thought of this forum as it's been a topic of discussion before.

If anyone is interested in getting one or a few items for some extra spice, send me a message and I can hook you up. Fast shipping can be sorted to any location country wide, hotel or local pick up point. I know many girls (and guys) would like some extra spice and fun playing around but it's quite difficult to find these items in Kenya. Payment can be made through mpesa, paypal / similar or through crypto for more anonymity if required. Not trying to make any money for myself, just helping my lady out making some money on her own. Aloha.

[Radical Guy]

FYI, as has been discussed previously, sexy toys are illegal in Kenya and bringing them in to the country, through customs, for visiting your lady or finding one or a few to spend time with, is not advisable as it will be confiscated and you'll be slapped with a hefty fine. I've been 2 months in Kenya now and found my special lady here, which I'm greatful for. She's running her own business here selling sex toys in Kenya out of her shop / shelfspace in Nairobi as well as through social media to local women mainly, but obviously I thought of this forum as it's been a topic of discussion before.

If anyone is interested in getting one or a few items for some extra spice, send me a message and I can hook you up. Fast shipping can be sorted to any location country wide, hotel or local pick up point. I know many girls (and guys) would like some extra spice and fun playing around but it's quite difficult to find these items in Kenya. Payment can be made through mpesa, paypal / similar or through crypto for more anonymity if required. Not trying to make any money for myself, just helping my lady out making some money on her own. Aloha.I've brought sex toys into Kenya numerous times in my checked bag. I've never had a problem.

[Reiner Otto]

For me, Tinder turned up zero matches. That Bumble was a gold mine though.
Interesting. Was in Mombasa in June and November; incredible amount of matches on my Gold-Tinder. So, next time I will try Bumble, too. Thanks.

[Chris Bigdog]

Saw giraffe's went on a tour of Kibera and met some nice young girls.


Interesting. Was in Mombasa in June and November; incredible amount of matches on my Gold-Tinder. So, next time I will try Bumble, too. Thanks.

[Evinmors]

I have a 6. 5 hrs layover at Kenyatta Airport, Narobi. I don't feel like going through immigration, and was just wondering if there is fun to be had at the airport. Long shot, I know. But well, one never knows (and yes I read the forum).

All the best!

[BPalacio]

*Turns out I have entered my grumpy and bitter curmudgeon phase of life.

Planned on having a sex-centered trip to Nairobi for a little under 2 weeks. I cut it short and left in 5 days. Couldn't bear it.

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Coming from Thailand, I obviously expected Nairobi to be nowhere close to as nice as any Thai cities, but I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible Nairobi would be. My apartment was in Westlands and it was lackluster to say the least. Scratch that. It was a dump. Was situated near a club I guess and wasn't sound insulated at all so you hear raucous music until the wee hours of the morning. The apartment itself was tiny, and the hot water would cut in and out like the water heater was struggling for its life.

If you think traffic in SEA is bad, wait till you get a glimpse at the shitshow that is Kenyan traffic. You'll be waiting in traffic for an eternity because drivers have to fight their way for an inch on streets where there's not even any traffic signals or any signage to control traffic. Cars are constantly running on near E, and 1 out of every 2 Bolts / Ubers I took the driver had to stop to get gas or fill their tires. They do this without asking you and consequently add another chunk of time to your ETA because you have to fight to get back into traffic. Also, the cars here never have their AC on and so you're left to bake in shitboxes that have their windows rolled down.

Which leads me to my next point. The windows being rolled down inevitably results in beggars coming to your window during stand-still traffic and aggressively trying to get your money. At best, it'll just be a shithead mother carrying her child and shoving her child in your face while she asks you for money to feed the kid. At worst, you'll have an aggressive prick literally reach into the car and try to feel you up or grab something off of you. Had to yell at the driver to roll his damn windows up because it apparently wasn't obvious that a passenger wouldn't take too kindly to being assaulted in traffic.

In the end, this all wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things if the women were worth it. My goal, after all, was to fuck. I didn't care about exploring this shithole city, and I couldn't care less to try any of the food. During my 5-day trip, slept with at least 2 women a day. One day out of the 5, I slept with 3. I paid them all 5 K shillings, with some getting another 1 K for transport. Some were good women that listened to my commands, but quite a few of them were terrible performers and were quite unwilling to follow through with what we discussed.

Along with this, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WOMEN SMELLED AWFUL. I cannot for the life of me understand it. They all, supposedly, took showers but they all wreaked of body odor. Well, to be accurate, they had this sickening combination of perfume mixed with body odor that makes me nauseated just recalling. I don't understand how this happens. It completely ruined sex and was the final and largest straw that broke the camel's back and made me cut my trip short and fly back home defeated.

To say I am disappointed would be woefully understating my thoughts. My last trip report about Pattaya was quite negative, but I now understand I was quite unfair. I've come to this realization after seeing and experiencing Kenyan women. I will not take the hygiene, the submissiveness, and the skincare of Thai women for granted moving forward after having experienced the abject terrible conditions I found Kenyan women to be in. I sought a mongering trip to Nairobi because I sought curvy and more sexually aggressive women in bed, but what I got was women with poor skin, abhorrent body odor, and just plain unpleasantness.

Maybe 5 days wasn't long enough to break through and overcome the unpleasantries I came across in Nairobi, but I do not care to waste any more time or money to find out. Maybe this is just the ramblings of a bitter curmudgeon, but I left Nairobi absolutely disgusted. I am in disbelief with myself that I actually stomached my commitment to fucking 2 women a day. It was not worth it. I should have just gone back to SEA or just jerked off.

The silver lining in all of this is that this was a humbling and a good trip for introspection. I made a dumb choice because of the little head. I knew that Nairobi wouldn't be anywhere near as nice as SEA, but I thought it'd be worth it just to sleep with beautiful shapely African women. I was wrong. It was much worse than I thought, and the women were terrible.

Moving forward, maybe I will try South America or just retreat back to SEA. Despite being similarly impoverished, Laos and Cambodia blow Nairobi out of the water in terms of women. I found SEA farm girls kept their hygiene and skincare better than college girls in Nairobi.

Africa is not for me it seems.


**EDIT: I forgot to mention my experience at the airport. The Nairobi airport is an absolute shitshow and was the rotten, shit-covered cherry on top. You go through security something like 4 different times, and then, if you're lucky like I was, you get your bags randomly searched before you can board your plane. The security queues each time are absolute madhouses where people are frantically trying to get through because they're about to miss their flights. When you pass your first security check, you queue for passport control and you witness yet another hysterical scene: childish passport control officers slinging shit and acting in the most unprofessional manners just to inconvenience and stress passengers. You'll be waiting in a queue that moves at a snail's pace...only to have it pushed BACK more often than FORWARD because you'll have these panic-stricken passengers about to miss their flight frantically ushered to the front. Again, just to clarify, I don't blame these passengers at all; I got to the airport 4 hours before my flight and I only barely made it to my flight because of all the dumbass, for-show security measures and bureaucracy. Don't believe me about the for-show, useless nature of the security? My taxi driver told me to give the pre-airport checkpoint bribe money so I could just skip the security checkpoint and didn't have to exit the car. I saw the same shit happen in the open for other checkpoints. Just fucking ridiculous and just a fitting last fuck you to visitors before they leave the shithole country.

[Mr Enternational]

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Coming from Thailand, I obviously expected Nairobi to be nowhere close to as nice as any Thai cities, but I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible Nairobi would be.[Deleted by Admin] I have lived in Pattaya for 15 years, but I had a blast in Kenya. I was about to extend my stay while you cut yours short. W Place Apartments was plastered all over this thread so that is where I stayed. No problems. Ran into other Americans and Africans that live in America staying there. Well there was 1 problem. The apartment did not have AC and one chick was talking about how hot she was and that she could not sleep like that, so she wanted to go home but will come back the next day.

Traffic was not that bad. I only had 2 incidents of being stuck in it. No problem because I am relaxing doing shit on my phone. Was not even really hot during my stay. I am from Atlanta and Kenya had nothing on our summers for my few days.

I only had 1 girl that smelled. No deodorant is what it was. Chicks were getting angry with me because I WAS NOT telling them to come over. Little time and 1 dick was my problem. My problem with the chicks was all that weave. I hate chicks with fake hair, but what the fuck can you do in Africa. Then it seems all of their hairlines start in the middle of the top of their heads. Is that from wearing that fake hair all of those years? Because I did not really see it in the 50 amd 60 year old pictures of women in the museums. Only 1 chick that came over had her natural hair. Despite that I had a ball.

Now what I am about to agree with you 100% on is that fucking airport bullshit (oh, and the uber not having gas). Must be the worst one in the world. I didn't know what the hell dude was talking about when we got to the airport and he said I had to get out and walk through security. The first thing I thought about was him stealing my shit. Then I saw everybody else doing the same thing. Still no idea why. I could have just left the shit I was not supposed to have in the car since you don't bring your bags and they do not check the car or driver. Then he had to go up to the front of some line before dropping me off. I am like mf let me out here. I do not want to carry my shit so far. But he was talking about the police watching or whatever.

Then the line to get inside the airport was long as fuck. It was snaking around. Even still, that one was quicker than the security line after paspport control. Long ass wait in the check in line. I checked in online but still had to check in my scuba gear. My flight was supposed to leave at 1145 pm but when I got to the check in desk the chick said 1 am. During my trip I was on 4 different African airlines and all 4 of those mfs was at least 1 hour late. All the while during all the security shit, I was saying to myself that I should have arrived 2 hours earlier. I called Uber at 8 pm from Westlands for the 1145 pm flight. I figured out the problem in the second security line when when it was my turn at bat. The same mf that looks at the xray machine is the one that has to search the bag if he sees something suspicious. I carry plastic esting utensils and that mf took them out of my bag bending them and shit. I said why do why'all always put yours hands all over my shit. I have to eat with that. You can plainly see that it is plastic. Then I was in duty free putzing around and some guy at a nearby gate missed his flight. He was raising holy hell, and rightfully so.

I went to the club to eat. Went the the gate to wait. I saw people getting up in line like we were about to board, so I got up too. After about 2 t minutes of seeing some folks grouping up at the front of the line one of the agents walked down the line. I asked her what the problem was. She said that some people do not have the proper documents. Evidently wherever they came from needs a yellow fever car to enter either Thailand or China where the flight was ending, but they did not have it. Well make some type of announcement instead of having the blind leading the blind. Most of us were in a line we did not have to be in because we saw people lining up.

I can't wait to get back to Kenya, but I am not looking forward to that airport again. I will write more reports on my experiences later. Then I learned that Black Panther Wakanda stuff evidently comes from the Swahili Wakenya.

[Lakeside32]

*Turns out I have entered my grumpy and bitter curmudgeon phase of life.

Planned on having a sex-centered trip to Nairobi for a little under 2 weeks. I cut it short and left in 5 days. Couldn't bear it.

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Coming from Thailand, I obviously expected Nairobi to be nowhere close to as nice as any Thai cities, but I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible Nairobi would be. My apartment was in Westlands and it was lackluster to say the least. Scratch that. It was a dump. Was situated near a club I guess and wasn't sound insulated at all so you hear raucous music until the wee hours of the morning. The apartment itself was tiny, and the hot water would cut in and out like the water heater was struggling for its life.

If you think traffic in SEA is bad, wait till you get a glimpse at the shitshow that is Kenyan traffic. You'll be waiting in traffic for an eternity because drivers have to fight their way for an inch on streets where there's not even any traffic signals or any signage to control traffic. Cars are constantly running on near E, and 1 out of every 2 Bolts / Ubers I took the driver had to stop to get gas or fill their tires. .I will never take a recommendation from someone who is not a trusted friend again about a destination, but an objective review like urs is what I needed to shorten my trip or not. I'm Definitely going to shorten it and make the best of it. I only have one Tinder chick that I'm curious about, she has the body I like so I was direct with her about my intentions, but this chick is young and annoying asf, so hopefully after that one customary meal I can hit it and split.

[King Amir]

*Turns out I have entered my grumpy and bitter curmudgeon phase of life.

Planned on having a sex-centered trip to Nairobi for a little under 2 weeks. I cut it short and left in 5 days. Couldn't bear it.

My mongering experience has been entirely in SEA and one short stint in Sosua. My last field report was in Thailand, and it was also a jaded and disenchanted report. Seems like a pattern is appearing and perhaps it's a ME problem. I think I may just be becoming a bitter old man. Much sooner than I thought I would. All that just to give readers full disclosure that my report may not be applicable to the average person who visits and mongers in Nairobi; I am just particularly jaded and don't put up with much shit.

Thai women are known for their submissive nature. I have met Kenyan women who like to be submissive and there are plenty of them.

As for the smell, it's a matter of luck, but Thai women also smell bad from their * When I was in Kenya I noticed that they don't wash their hair 1 or 2 weeks, because of their hair style and this is disgusting.

By the way, 5000 shillings is a lot, you probably didn't negotiate with them because they can go down to 3000 shillings.

Taxis: I was in Nairobi in December and most of my trips were with Bolt. I didn't experience any problem with traffic jams. Of course, there are short traffic jams in Nairobi but that's normal, it's not something that bothered me. The drivers in Nairobi really drive like crazy so I don't recommend taking a motorbike taxi.

The beggars: You do understand that you have come to a third world country, right? Next time don't sit next to the driver, sit behind him and close your window, no one will bother you. They came to me too and I just ignored them. There are small children walking who won't leave you and it's very annoying. You have to keep your cell phone and your things, I don't recommend keeping them in your pocket. Buy a pouch and put your things there.

The Westland apartment: Sorry you experienced this. I also experienced this on Friday. I stayed at the location for one day and ran away in the middle of the night because of the loud music.

I recommend reading reviews on a booking site before you book a room, there are negative experiences there and you can learn from them.

Security at the airport: I personally had a security check three times when I returned to my country. I had an outside check when I put my suitcase on the floor and the dog smelled it and the second time at the entrance to the terminal and the third time at the entrance to the departures. I didn't experience any problem, but maybe that day your experience was different than mine.

In conclusion: next time you will come for a shorter period of a week, and if you feel well, then next time you will fly for a longer period.

Don't expect cleanliness and discipline from a third world country, there is theft and violence there but you can avoid it if you are careful about going to dangerous places and you keep your things and don't trust anyone but you.

I recommend you, try to identify red signs on a girl who is not going to listen to your instructions and is just looking to finish quickly and go with the payment.

A red sign, for example, if she straight up talks about sex and doesn't ask how you are, if she started a conversation for the first time.

And there are many more signs, but you will have to recognize them through experience.

Kenyan girls have big ass and know how to fuck much better than Thai girls.

Next time you will come with a different attitude and more prepared for everything. I wish you good luck.

[BPalacio]

Thai women are known for their submissive nature. I have met Kenyan women who like to be submissive and there are plenty of them.

As for the smell, it's a matter of luck, but Thai women also smell bad from their * When I was in Kenya I noticed that they don't wash their hair 1 or 2 weeks, because of their hair style and this is disgusting.

By the way, 5000 shillings is a lot, you probably didn't negotiate with them because they can go down to 3000 shillings.

Taxis: I was in Nairobi in December and most of my trips were with Bolt. I didn't experience any problem with traffic jams. Of course, there are short traffic jams in Nairobi but that's normal, it's not something that bothered me. The drivers in Nairobi really drive like crazy so I don't recommend taking a motorbike taxi.

The beggars: You do understand that you have come to a third world country, right? Next time don't sit next to the driver, sit behind him and close your window, no one will bother you. They came to me too and I just ignored them. There are small children walking who won't leave you and it's very annoying. You have to keep your cell phone and your things, I don't recommend keeping them in your pocket. Buy a pouch and put your things there.

The Westland apartment: Sorry you experienced this. I also experienced this on Friday. I stayed at the location for one day and ran away in the middle of the night because of the loud music.

I recommend reading reviews on a booking site before you book a room, there are negative experiences there and you can learn from them.

Security at the airport: I personally had a security check three times when I returned to my country. I had an outside check when I put my suitcase on the floor and the dog smelled it and the second time at the entrance to the terminal and the third time at the entrance to the departures. I didn't experience any problem, but maybe that day your experience was different than mine.

In conclusion: next time you will come for a shorter period of a week, and if you feel well, then next time you will fly for a longer period.

Don't expect cleanliness and discipline from a third world country, there is theft and violence there but you can avoid it if you are careful about going to dangerous places and you keep your things and don't trust anyone but you.

I recommend you, try to identify red signs on a girl who is not going to listen to your instructions and is just looking to finish quickly and go with the payment.

A red sign, for example, if she straight up talks about sex and doesn't ask how you are, if she started a conversation for the first time.

And there are many more signs, but you will have to recognize them through experience.

Kenyan girls have big ass and know how to fuck much better than Thai girls.

Next time you will come with a different attitude and more prepared for everything. I wish you good luck.Good points.

The smell may have come from the hair if you have heard that they go without washing their hair for weeks. That is a good point to bring up because I was not a fan of their hair at all as well. Mr. E mentioned how many of them have weaves and that is very true in my experience. I hate that shit. Whether it was from the hair or from the rest of the body, it makes no difference to me. The odor was present and it was present in every woman I brought to my bedroom. So there's clearly something up with the typical Kenyan woman.

On 5 K vs 3 K shillings. 5 K shillings was the negotiated rate I reached. There were some girls that were willing to get down to 4 K, but many simply became hostile when I threw any numbers below 5 K. So from that point 5 K became the price point I became accustomed to offering the women. 5 K is about $36 USD. 3 K is about $21 USD. I don't really care about a difference of $15 when it comes to sex.

Laos and Cambodia are 3rd world countries. I NEVER had any beggars act as aggressively and be such assholes as the ones I encountered in Kenya.

I read reviews for my accommodation and nothing was said about the noise. It was an AirBnB and looking back now I realize that the reviews were just fake plugs from probably friends or family of the lister. Just good old Kenyan deceit.

On traffic: Agreed that the motos in Kenya are somehow worse than in SEA. In SEA, I take motos everywhere because they save significant time in traffic. I'm obviously aware that it's quite a dangerous endeavor to ride a moto in SEA as well, but Kenyan motos are next level stupid and dangerous. Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with SEA traffic, but I doubt it. Traffic in Kenya was just a madhouse with no discernable logic or patterns or even signage / traffic control to anything that resembles orderly traffic. In SEA, you at least get SOME signage and traffic lights to control traffic.

I will say that Kenyan women, the good ones, did fuck better than Thai girls. Did not come across any starfish fucks. So they have that feather in their caps. That is the only real positive I can say about my time in Kenya.

There will be no next time. I very much regret wasting my money and, even worse, my precious vacation time going there. I will be going back to SEA with a renewed appreciation for women that take care of themselves, I. E. Women that shower regularly, take care of their skin, and take care of their hair.

[Newton York]

Good points.

The smell may have come from the hair if you have heard that they go without washing their hair for weeks. That is a good point to bring up because I was not a fan of their hair at all as well. Mr. E mentioned how many of them have weaves and that is very true in my experience. I hate that shit. Whether it was from the hair or from the rest of the body, it makes no difference to me. The odor was present and it was present in every woman I brought to my bedroom. So there's clearly something up with the typical Kenyan woman.

On 5 K vs 3 K shillings. 5 K shillings was the negotiated rate I reached. There were some girls that were willing to get down to 4 K, but many simply became hostile when I threw any numbers below 5 K. So from that point 5 K became the price point I became accustomed to offering the women. 5 K is about $36 USD. 3 K is about $21 USD. I don't really care about a difference of $15 when it comes to sex.

Laos and Cambodia are 3rd world countries. I NEVER had any beggars act as aggressively and be such assholes as the ones I encountered in Kenya.

I read reviews for my accommodation and nothing was said about the noise. It was an AirBnB and looking back now I realize that the reviews were just fake plugs from probably friends or family of the lister. Just good old Kenyan deceit.

On traffic: Agreed that the motos in Kenya are somehow worse than in SEA. In SEA, I take motos everywhere because they save significant time in traffic. I'm obviously aware that it's quite a dangerous endeavor to ride a moto in SEA as well, but Kenyan motos are next level stupid and dangerous. Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with SEA traffic, but I doubt it. Traffic in Kenya was just a madhouse with no discernable logic or patterns or even signage / traffic control to anything that resembles orderly traffic. In SEA, you at least get SOME signage and traffic lights to control traffic.

I will say that Kenyan women, the good ones, did fuck better than Thai girls. Did not come across any starfish fucks. So they have that feather in their caps. That is the only real positive I can say about my time in Kenya.

There will be no next time. I very much regret wasting my money and, even worse, my precious vacation time going there. I will be going back to SEA with a renewed appreciation for women that take care of themselves, I. E. Women that shower regularly, take care of their skin, and take care of their hair.I can deal with a lot in the world of p4 p that we partake in, but I draw the line at smells. If a chick smells funny, be it hair, ass or pussy, I'm calling it a day.

[Buksida]

You will probably find some success talking to women, from my experience, but it won't just be super easy. Not sure what your experiences are, but having been to a few mongering destinations, like in Colombia, chicks are pretty willing to fuck off the rip, they know you want them and most of the ones in the gringo areas are there for that. Kenya is definitely more subtle, unless you are at bar/nightclub where westerners hang on as do pros then it's similar. From what I've read Tinder will be much easier. The people who are there currently for mongering purposes should be able to give you good advice. I've been 5 times to Nairobi, but only had a few experiences. Good luck!!I always treat ladies with respect and it works. The hotel staff seemed to be all over me but I was not interested as that is too close to home. I had lunch in a mall restaurant and the lovely young lady was pleased to meet me after work and go directly to my room and fuck my eyeballs out. I do not remember how much I gave her but just a small amount.

[Mombie75]

Strange. In 20 years living and coming and going in and out of JKIA airport a lot I have never had a bad time there and long queues. Fingers crossed it stays like that.

Yes, women can smell, it is the hair. Shower them and spray their hair.

I have noticed and met plenty of Asia mongers having a change of scenery and coming to Kenya. They always compare the two. Do not compare, they are totally different cultures. I visit Thailand twice a year and both are great. But different.

[BPalacio]

Strange. In 20 years living and coming and going in and out of JKIA airport a lot I have never had a bad time there and long queues. Fingers crossed it stays like that.

Yes, women can smell, it is the hair. Shower them and spray their hair.

I have noticed and met plenty of Asia mongers having a change of scenery and coming to Kenya. They always compare the two. Do not compare, they are totally different cultures. I visit Thailand twice a year and both are great. But different.First off: Thanks again for all the advice. Despite my trip not necessarily going the way I had hoped, I can appreciate all the help you gave me.

I think anyone reading my report should be aware that perhaps my actual short time on the ground and my finicky personality might mean that my negative experience in Kenya may not be that applicable to them. Basically, you can take my report with a grain of salt.

I think my expectations for the trip were a bit soured because again my sole purpose was to monger. I didn't have the time and frankly didn't care to enjoy any other parts of Nairobi. I also, and this may be because of the short trip or just my personality, approached women not really playing the game.

To clarify, I mean I didn't really care to play the flirting game with these women. I told myself I didn't have the time to play the game, but realistically I can honestly say I'm just at the age where I don't have the patience to pretend to relate or be interested in these women in any manner except sexually. I do not find them interesting, and I do not really care to play the role of flirt. I also am a punctual individual, and I was not shy about expressing my frustration when most of them arrived late. To expand on this, when I would schedule and confirm with a girl that I would like her at my apartment by 2:00 PM, she would say yes. 2:00 PM arrives and she says she cannot be there yet. Let's push to 3:30 PM. 3:30 PM becomes 4:30. I eventually see her at 5:00. This happened more often than not. That type of disregard for my time, specifically my vacation time, is unacceptable and I pissed off quite a few of the girls "rushing them".

Say what you will about Thai Time, in my experience Thai girls are usually 30 minutes off the mark and are much more likely to be punctual than Kenyan women. They also are apologetic when they arrive, whereas Kenyan women seem offended that you dare to be upset that they have wasted your time. One girl was upset I had her wait at the security gate for 10 minutes without responding to her texts to let her up. After she was 2 hours late to our schedule romp. That is the type of entitlement and annoying attitudes I experienced from many a Kenyan woman during my short trip.

Again, I appreciate all the help from the posters and Kenyan veterans that have written reports or even directly answered my questions. Apologies that my trip did not go well and I couldn't report back positively, but I am just shooting straight about my short stint in Nairobi. Readers doing their due diligence should caution themselves taking my report as that helpful because it seems like Kenya requires a bit more patience and an understanding of life in Africa.

[Mr Enternational]

I think my expectations for the trip were a bit soured because again my sole purpose was to monger. I didn't have the time and frankly didn't care to enjoy any other parts of Nairobi.Maybe that was the problem. I did not go there for women. I went there to see the sights. And in the evening when I was dead tired from that all day, I got a chick to come over. I can't wait to go back to see other things and places at which time I will fuck some more chicks. But I am definitely not going there with the primary purpose of getting laid. I saw a lot and learned a lot. Getting pussy was just the cherry on top.

[Rwenotmen]

Hey Brother BPalacio, apologies again for such lonnng delay in responding! I returned from my Kenya trip in late Jan and since then have been very busy. I thought I was logged in the few times I checked this site, but I guess I wasn't, otherwise I would have seen your PM. I could have advised sooner and maybe your trip would have been better.

A few things, not just for you, anyone who's had recent trips to Kenya.

* Airport *.

I think the reason why it's been more-than-usual chaotic there is because of the two things: the so-called 'No Visa' process, and the extra luggage checking. Notice that both started about the same time. Maybe tourism has indeed picked up, making queues longer; and maybe the extra security is delaying getting bags & passengers moving.

I'm not making excuses or defending any of this. Kenya is a mess, even on a good day. But this might explain that.

* Smells *.

Like others have wrote, this is pretty weird to us who frequently visit or live / lived in KE. Me, in all the many-many years I've been in KE, I have NEVER even met a Kenchic who smelled bad. Not the malaya in the goneby era of downtown cheap pubs; not in the village, not from small town girls I've mongered; certainly not from any city girls, who pamper themselves just like any modern woman.

It is true that most won't wash their hair everyday due to wearing weaves or having a tight hairstyle. But they will wash if YOU offer to pay for a NEW hairdo!

But even with all that, bad smells. No Never, not in my reality. Not from their hair, their body odor, nor their pussies.

I'm so sorry for you guys that have run into this. Maybe, just maybe, it's because you're new to Africa / Africans?? I do know that Asians have certain 'scent' that we Westerners first notice; not bad but certainly distinctive. I vaguely remember my first time in Africa, I noticed the same. I'm sure they say the same about us!

Maybe you guys are so used to SEA, you no longer notice Asian BO. I'm sure I would, as I haven't been in that region since 2008.

*Airbnbs / Hotel *.

Am I missing something or nobody has openly stated which apt buildings or hotels they stayed in? SHARE! Please, this is what this site SHOULD be for.

For those of you who tried Abbs, don't post the entire link. I don't know if this site allows it. Instead, just post the number at the end of the link.

Anyway, I have written several times about both bogus Abbs and legit ones. How to spot phony reviews. Dealing with troublesome Hosts. And I've encouraged other Brothers in these forums to share & post their experiences. To be honest, I don't think even one has done so.

For all of you-- before you book an Airbnb, post that link number here. Then we all can look at the same listing, and help decide if it's a good choice or not. If we can get the EXACT name of the building or hotel, then we can search the nearby area for clubs or construction or noisy roads, anything that will kill a nice stay.

* ahh yes, The Girl-Friendly Experience (GFE) *.

For as much as Kenyans truly understand that sex and even relationships are mostly Transactional, they all still want the illusion of being Friends or Lovers. Even the most hardcore malaya doesn't want to be treated as if she is. What she is.

So in KE, you have play that game. Pretend she's your girlfriend. Even if for one night. {Who sang that song?

Now I DON'T mean spoil her eg buying expensive meals or gifts. {Like Al Bundy said, Six Dollars is too much money to spend on ANY woman!} But you do need to do the flirting / courting / foreplaying. Make the effort. And Kenya being still a semi-traditional culture, you as the Man have to initiate nearly everything.

Sure she'll still fuck brains out without doing so, just for the cash. But believe me. Believe US! There's an extra je ne sais pas! benefit to playing that little game. Hell, we vets have pulled stunning Kenchics just because our flirt skill was in Beast Mode. (Being wazungu and spending the money didn't hurt though LOL).

* Where did you pull those girls from?? *.

I'm not sure it's clear where you all are getting your girls. And how you're screening them. These are important factors.

First, as many a Brother here has stated, take it as the First Commandment: ALL KENYANS LIE.

As much as I hate apps, we got to join the 21st Century and use them. Tinder is the first source, the most direct, as everyone knows the score on what's being transacted. I used to like Badoo but no longer, too many games, too few good choices, and the UI had become more annoying. Tagged is TRASH. AfroIntroductions is still fine, although personally I feel the quality of offerings has gone down: now it's mostly 6 and 7's, alot of below-6's, with 9's being fake or scam profiles. Facebook can actually work, but needs alot more time to build up connections.

From there, you got to screen your Kenchic from first seeing her profile, to first contact, to getting her into your flat, to ending the connection even if kicking her OUT. Somewhere in that chain will be some lies. Just a matter of how much to put up with til your connection is ended. So don't completely dismiss a chick just because you catch some dishonesty.

My last trip, I had (at least) THREE ladies catfish their profile. I mean, really. The pictures were nothing like the reality. I knew this because I ALWAYS demand a videocall. Guess what-- when called on their BS, they just shrugged and continued the interaction. I only met one of them, and man oh man she actually had the best head game of all my 'dates' during my trip, and had the best GFE. She got annoying at the end, but I flew out without letting her know, so the 'breakup' was very easy, heehee.

* Come Back! *.

Brothers I know you had bad expereinces. But come back. We'll help make your next visit better enjoyable and unforgettable.

[Radical Guy]

I have visited Kenya (both Nairobi and Mombasa) numerous times, and have very specific criteria for the girls I meet. I like them slim, spinner type if possible. None who have had children. And I highly prefer those who don't shave their pussies. I've never understood the shaving fetish. Thus, I take time screening girls. Then chatting on WhatsApp, well in advance of my trip. I have yet to be disappointed. I want the full girlfriend experience, as I find the whole P4 P transaction thing to be a total turnoff. My upcoming trip in 2 weeks will be my second time with a fabulous 23-year-old spinner I spent 10 days with last January.

[MrJibb]

Flying out of Mombasa to EU this coming week and will have a long lay-over in Nairobi, 9 am-11 pm. Suggestions on where I can find a nice roof-top pool to get a day-pass and spend the day? Other suggestions to spend the day? My girl from Diani will take the train to come to visit her family in Nairobi, arriving at 3 pm in the afternoon, meeting up with some of her friends in Nairobi to go out for food and drinks, but the morning and up till she arrives I'd like to explore a bit, then catch the last rays of sun at the pool, sipping good cocktails and enjoying crisp weather and sun for a change.

Suggestions for day-pass roof-top pools / hotels? Any that also offer the possibility to pay for a room for the day, to drop off luggage, shower and change, have some fun with my girl / girls?

[Zimzam]

I think it says something about the Kenyan girls as they are abundant on Stripchat.

Compared to the neighbouring countries they really stick out in numbers.

Usually there are less than 10 girls online from Uganda and none from Tanzania.

The only country that has some more girls online is South Africa.

While there are always more than 300 Kenyan girls of all sizes and shades of colour showing their pussy and performing requests.

Even lesbian couples, or those who are pretending so.

(This would be dangerous of course in Uganda).

Also you can see them smoking bhangi openly.

I think this is showing that Kenyan girls are more free and also willing to perform many different kind of shows.

[MamaGuevos]

Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.

[Mombie75]

Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.Gypsy bar no longer exists. Nairobi clubs depends on the nights, if it is a Friday or Saturday then you can find women. Head to CBD bars though that tends to be earlier evening and Westlands later on.

[Pcdilwj]

Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.Just go to brew bistro on Fri and Sat night in Westland and Havana you can find pro and semi-pro then go to boss den for mostly the Freelancer.

[Kavkaz48]

Gypsy bar no longer exists. Nairobi clubs depends on the nights, if it is a Friday or Saturday then you can find women. Head to CBD bars though that tends to be earlier evening and Westlands later on.What about weekdays. Which places are good then?

[MamaGuevos]

I use tagged because it is only $9. 99 a month (and I do one month when I travel to Kenya). It is not very good for Asia, but great for Kenya and the Dominican Republic.

I don't bother with the other sites, because I got banned from one (Tinder) and the others cannot possibly be any better.

For the record, I messaged about 15 women who met my specifications based on looks. I skipped the ones with ardent profiles about how men are pigs or swore they were saving their virginity for marriage. About 1/10 tagged girls are pretty to beautiful, in my opinion. I like them thin with nice curves. There are numerous girls to choose from when browsing. I have my current photo on the site (I am in my late 60's).

Of the 15 girls I messaged, 9 responded. I said a few nice things about their looks and asked them what they did for a living (almost none of them have jobs but some are in school). My age limitations were 18-27.

Of the 9 who responded, 8 of 9 were willing to meet me and spend the night for a small reward. The ninth said she is waiting for a husband and I did not push her. 1 on the 8 initially refused me ("I am not naughty" but last night she changed her mind. I am in Kenya now, and all the girls I have made plans with actually showed up. One girl brought a friend and the 3 of us spent several hours exploring life's possibilities the last two nights. I swear these two almost killed me. And when I pooped out after 2 hours, one of them was right up on my mini vibrator to get just one more orgasm before sleep. It's true that I "overpay" (15000 KES per night) but ass fucking one girl while she licks the pussy of another is a memory that I will always treasure.

Tagged works well. The other sites may be just as good, but I have great luck with tagged. I will add that I have met more than a dozen chicas in the Dominican Republic with tagged. In Manila and Bangkok I met NO ONE with Tagged.

[World Jockey]

It's true that I "overpay" (15000 KES per night) but ass fucking one girl while she licks the pussy of another is a memory that I will always treasure.

Tagged works well. The other sites may be just as good, but I have great luck with tagged. I will add that I have met more than a dozen chicas in the Dominican Republic with tagged. In Manila and Bangkok I met NO ONE with Tagged.Ouch. It pained my heart to hear you paid that much in Kenya.

Want to share what got you banned from tinder? I use that exclusively in NBO.


Does anyone have experience with either of these places? Are there nice looking young working girls there (or non pros looking for a little extra money)? I will be in Nairobi next week and I am looking for semi-pros for fun.As others said Brew bistro and havanas across the street are easy breezy. Actually its Kenya. If you don't look kenyan just point at a girl and tell her to come over.

[Radical Guy]

I use tagged because it is only $9. 99 a month (and I do one month when I travel to Kenya). It is not very good for Asia, but great for Kenya and the Dominican Republic.

I don't bother with the other sites, because I got banned from one (Tinder) and the others cannot possibly be any better.

For the record, I messaged about 15 women who met my specifications based on looks. I skipped the ones with ardent profiles about how men are pigs or swore they were saving their virginity for marriage. About 1/10 tagged girls are pretty to beautiful, in my opinion. I like them thin with nice curves. There are numerous girls to choose from when browsing. I have my current photo on the site (I am in my late 60's).

Of the 15 girls I messaged, 9 responded. I said a few nice things about their looks and asked them what they did for a living (almost none of them have jobs but some are in school). My age limitations were 18-27.

Of the 9 who responded, 8 of 9 were willing to meet me and spend the night for a small reward. The ninth said she is waiting for a husband and I did not push her. 1 on the 8 initially refused me ("I am not naughty" but last night she changed her mind. I am in Kenya now, and all the girls I have made plans with actually showed up. One girl brought a friend and the 3 of us spent several hours exploring life's possibilities the last two nights. I swear these two almost killed me. And when I pooped out after 2 hours, one of them was right up on my mini vibrator to get just one more orgasm before sleep. It's true that I "overpay" (15000 KES per night) but ass fucking one girl while she licks the pussy of another is a memory that I will always treasure.

Tagged works well. The other sites may be just as good, but I have great luck with tagged. I will add that I have met more than a dozen chicas in the Dominican Republic with tagged. In Manila and Bangkok I met NO ONE with Tagged.Badoo has worked well for me in Kenya. I prefer a girlfriend experience as opposed to the explicit P4 P arrangement. Ultimately, I always give the "girlfriend" a modest gift at the end of my stay, but otherwise it's simply meals, drinks, etc. I see no shortage in slim girls in the 18-25 age range having no kids. The hardest part is selecting which ones I actually want to meet out of so many delicious choices offered.

[Argo1990]

I installed bumble last night. Premium and activated travel mode. 90 matches so far 😆128518;.

Now before I agree to some horrendous prices as I do not know the norm in Nairobi. How much would you pay for a pretty and youngish girl for the night? Not a 8/10 but could be a 6-7/10.

Whats the usually accepted rates. Don't want to risk offending any girls. One quoted me 150 USD for the night. Feels kinda expensive to me.

[World Jockey]

I installed bumble last night. Premium and activated travel mode. 90 matches so far 😆128518;.

Now before I agree to some horrendous prices as I do not know the norm in Nairobi. How much would you pay for a pretty and youngish girl for the night? Not a 8/10 but could be a 6-7/10.

Whats the usually accepted rates. Don't want to risk offending any girls. One quoted me 150 USD for the night. Feels kinda expensive to me.LOL that match ratio sounds like Nairobi.

That said $150 is what you would pay to keep her for 6 months.

For the night $20-$30. $40 if she brings a friend along.

[Mr Enternational]

Want to share what got you banned from tinder?I got banned for reporting a transvestite in the female section.

[Mr Enternational]

Now before I agree to some horrendous prices as I do not know the norm in Nairobi. How much would you pay for a pretty and youngish girl for the night? Not a 8/10 but could be a 6-7/10.

Whats the usually accepted rates. Don't want to risk offending any girls. One quoted me 150 USD for the night. Feels kinda expensive to me.It is all over this thread. 5000.

[King Amir]

It is all over this thread. 5000.You can also find it for 3000-4000 kes for a night, depending on your look too. But do not agree more than 5,000. Always remember that the price is negotiable.

[World Jockey]

I got banned for reporting a transvestite in the female section.Dam. Ok note to self. Let me leave the trannies be. I have done that in the past myself.


You can also find it for 3000-4000 kes for a night, depending on your look too. But do not agree more than 5,000. Always remember that the price is negotiable.Yup. With current exchange this is about $37 USD.

I mean with 90+ matches he most likely can get by without paying at all.

[King Amir]

Yup. With current exchange this is about $37 USD.

I mean with 90+ matches he most likely can get by without paying at all.Agree. I was in Nairobi 8 days, and did sex with 5 girls free. But you need time to talk with them before going to Kenya. You need to build the relationship with them in conversation, and also understand what are their intentions.

You need to know that if you are talking with 100 girls, probably 70 of them will ask you some money to help them even before the meeting. In that case, don't fail for it! , don't give them money!.

The free thing is more complicated because even the girls who are not hookers want something from you.

If you are looking good, some of them will just want to be around you.

I recommend you all to try everything and see what is best for you.

[Radical Guy]

Agree. I was in Nairobi 8 days, and did sex with 5 girls free. But you need time to talk with them before going to Kenya. You need to build the relationship with them in conversation, and also understand what are their intentions.

You need to know that if you are talking with 100 girls, probably 70 of them will ask you some money to help them even before the meeting. In that case, don't fail for it! , don't give them money!.

The free thing is more complicated because even the girls who are not hookers want something from you.

If you are looking good, some of them will just want to be around you.

I recommend you all to try everything and see what is best for you.If girls get the impression that there's a "chance" that you might fall in love with them and possibly petition them to come to your country, they'll fuck your brains out without even mentioning any sort of cash transaction. In my case, I never make any promises or commitments, I simply convey that I am "open" to such a scenario with the right girl. The sex is better because the girls get far more passionate than if they think it's simply a cash for pussy arrangement.

RG.

[World Jockey]

You need to know that if you are talking with 100 girls, probably 70 of them will ask you some money to help them even before the meeting. In that case, don't fail for it! , don't give them money!.
Yes if there is one thing a newbie to NBO should know its this. Nearly all the girls will ask for money. During and after your trip. Ones that you have sex with and not. They may not even ask for much but once you're in their contacts brace yourself. Its will be endless. All newbies should learn to say no and keep those mpesas in your account. Even if it is just $5 they are asking for.

And yes one should know the kind of trip they want. If you wan to hit and run to the next it will not be the easiest thing to juggle many different women. Kenyans are always very late. For everything. So even trying to see two in one day it can be difficult. IMO Kenya is best if you want a GFE with two or three girls. Especially if you're there less than two weeks.

[Argo1990]

LOL that match ratio sounds like Nairobi.

That said $150 is what you would pay to keep her for 6 months.

For the night $20-$30. $40 if she brings a friend along.Wow. Insane. So she is just being greedy then. Cheers for that. I would have overpaid. Will definitely negotiate then.

[Mr Enternational]

Wow. Insane. So she is just being greedy then.No. She is just trying to get what you are willing to pay. Somebody will pay it. There are guys in other threads that talk about they do not have time to negotiate or don't want to ruin the mood. I am sure she comes across guys like that, so why not shoot for the moon.

[MwenByen]

Big shoutouts to the guys for providing what to expect to pay and what not to pay in Nairobi unfortunately some of the information is misleading and while the other information is your mileage may vary. Anytime you want to how much is too much to pay for sex with a local native; well hell just ask the native man of that country. So apparently 1000 bob is the local price and Kenyan women often refer to guys who can only pay that is broke (trust me the used blank word a lot around black guys! Through out my encounter most women charged me that price around 60% of the time. Bad bitches want roughly 5000 bob from foreign men but some will settle for 3000. Women will try to lure you in with a 500 bob special when you get in that room after sex all hell is going to break loose 100% guaranteed!

Overnight or all day price with sex included repeatedly for local men 2000 bob. And I actually got that price service but for foreign men expect to pay 5000 bob plus. Now these are the prices for women in the low end areas of CBD. Speaking of CBD I don't recommend going on River Road at night looking for cheap sex that's kinda like a bait and lure tactics some of these women have pimps or boyfriends watching their backs and they'll try to organize a committee to get you to pay more. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya and Kenyan police don't fucking play I saw with my own two eyes they jump out on some guys and slam them too the ground.

[Kavkaz48]

Yes if there is one thing a newbie to NBO should know its this. Nearly all the girls will ask for money. During and after your trip. Ones that you have sex with and not. They may not even ask for much but once you're in their contacts brace yourself. Its will be endless. All newbies should learn to say no and keep those mpesas in your account. Even if it is just $5 they are asking for.

And yes one should know the kind of trip they want. If you wan to hit and run to the next it will not be the easiest thing to juggle many different women. Kenyans are always very late. For everything. So even trying to see two in one day it can be difficult. IMO Kenya is best if you want a GFE with two or three girls. Especially if you're there less than two weeks.And if they ask you for money *before* you meet, that's a big red flag, I'm guessing?

[MwenByen]

A week into being in Nairobi I tired using Tinder, Bumble and Badoo apparently Badoo and Bumble are both owned by Meta.

Let me start off with the escort website sites. After discussing with numerous cab drivers and local guys in several areas. With the main question being what is the best place to get good quality escorts apparently they told me the internet and try escort agencies they attend to be more professional about their jobs. Now I'm skipping a whole lot of events which prompted me to ask such questions.

Starting off with the escort agencies most of the women that were posted was not in business hence their numbers was out of order or they was bullshitting around about meeting up with me. Never in my life in the sake of money have I heard of a chick telling me she's available and I'm texting her for 7 hrs and all of sudden she's telling me that she's about come visit me for a reduced price of 7000 bob and she's going to give me rushed service due to the fact she's about to go to the club and see some wack underground artist perform. By the way her initial price was 10000 bob. I told her go fuck off and I wish I could say that in Kiswahili. Next I called up and Ethiopian escort who texted me and told me she was available and it took her 24 hours to give me her price! Ok and it was literally $100 usd she was asking for a video chat verified she was the girl with the same shape in the photos I told her I'll never pay such prices in the motherland and not even for Arab pussy! She then began to bargain and it was negotiated down to 5800 bob. I stopped responding to her because she didn't even have a car and she wanted me to cover her Uber fare and she was coming from Umoja and area I visited on my first night in Nairobi. I blocked her because she kept calling and texting and I was done with the online escort scene.

I moved on to online dating apps expensive I must say I never paid for an dating membership until I came to Africa (Kenya) first up Tinder I had to delete that shit ASAP and cancel my subscription. After sending my location I only saw white chicks on it in Nairobi but I was really looking for some hot chocolate. I gave up after 30 swipes.

Next Badoo and Bumble saw plenty of nice looking African women on it. And first it was slow for 2 days then on day 3 I was getting bombarded with women requesting me to send them dick pics! I never experienced that in my life until that day at first I thought it was men playing pranks but with a video chat it was Kenyan women and some of them were sitting next to their friends. Shit took a turn for the worst when I met up with this one Keyan lady who was 20 years old drove to my hotel picked me up pulled into a alley at first I thought I was about to get robbed she took and began to unzip my pants and pulled my shit out and start jacking it so she can see the true size! She looked crazy while doing that and this woman had super human strength I was trying to ease her from doing all of this and what got her to stop was some women with children walked through that alley and they saw what was about to go down. She apologized to me and said she haven't had some in a minute yeah right I got out her car and she demanded 4000 bob. I told her I'll give her 1500 I tossed it through her window and called it a day. After that crazy experience I told myself I'll just stick with the night club sex scene. I went back to NY hotel and deleted my accounts.

[MwenByen]

I completely agree, and that's one stereotype that associates with people of certain regionality of the world and unfortunately most gets extremely angry as if it completely fictional. I was in small water worlds strip club and this one lady gave me a lap dance her pussy smelt rotten! She tired to kiss me in my mouth I stopped it and she called to VIP which looked quite different I can't explain how it looked but the places I've been to in Umoja set up looked better than that! Well the point I'm trying to make is Kenyan men was fingering her and they didn't mind that type of order. I called some SW over when they smells I leave them be.


I can deal with a lot in the world of p4 p that we partake in, but I draw the line at smells. If a chick smells funny, be it hair, ass or pussy, I'm calling it a day.

[MwenByen]

I know this is a late post but most of the ones I called was out of service and the ones who did answer was no longer in the game or they wasn't trying to meet up at a reasonable time. To be honest I'll keep my guard up dealing with folks who offer this form of service. The women can turn violent and combative over money just like anywhere else in the world. And also some chicks told me some girls set white men up to get robbed because it's a stigma associated with them and money. And this city has a very high crime rate just like any other major city in the world!


Hello friends I'm visiting Nairobi for short time like a week or so and I google escorts in Nairobi and I had couple of websites come up my question is how safe and accurate these websites are having an escort from the sites to come to your incall or you go their incalls.

Sorry if this has been asked before.

[Neddy69]

Big shoutouts to the guys for providing what to expect to pay and what not to pay in Nairobi unfortunately some of the information is misleading and while the other information is your mileage may vary. Anytime you want to how much is too much to pay for sex with a local native; well hell just ask the native man of that country. So apparently 1000 bob is the local price and Kenyan women often refer to guys who can only pay that is broke (trust me the used blank word a lot around black guys! Through out my encounter most women charged me that price around 60% of the time. Bad bitches want roughly 5000 bob from foreign men but some will settle for 3000. Women will try to lure you in with a 500 bob special when you get in that room after sex all hell is going to break loose 100% guaranteed!

Overnight or all day price with sex included repeatedly for local men 2000 bob. And I actually got that price service but for foreign men expect to pay 5000 bob plus. Now these are the prices for women in the low end areas of CBD. Speaking of CBD I don't recommend going on River Road at night looking for cheap sex that's kinda like a bait and lure tactics some of these women have pimps or boyfriends watching their backs and they'll try to organize a committee to get you to pay more. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya and Kenyan police don't fucking play I saw with my own two eyes they jump out on some guys and slam them too the ground.Prostitution is NOT illegal in Kenya. If you don't know what you're doing. Go back to CONUS. Judging by your posts that's better for before you get yourself killed. Escort agencies? Nobody use such a shit in Africa. There's no need.

Mwalimu.

[King Amir]

Big shoutouts to the guys for providing what to expect to pay and what not to pay in Nairobi unfortunately some of the information is misleading and while the other information is your mileage may vary. Anytime you want to how much is too much to pay for sex with a local native; well hell just ask the native man of that country. So apparently 1000 bob is the local price and Kenyan women often refer to guys who can only pay that is broke (trust me the used blank word a lot around black guys! Through out my encounter most women charged me that price around 60% of the time. Bad bitches want roughly 5000 bob from foreign men but some will settle for 3000. Women will try to lure you in with a 500 bob special when you get in that room after sex all hell is going to break loose 100% guaranteed!

Overnight or all day price with sex included repeatedly for local men 2000 bob. And I actually got that price service but for foreign men expect to pay 5000 bob plus. Now these are the prices for women in the low end areas of CBD. Speaking of CBD I don't recommend going on River Road at night looking for cheap sex that's kinda like a bait and lure tactics some of these women have pimps or boyfriends watching their backs and they'll try to organize a committee to get you to pay more. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya and Kenyan police don't fucking play I saw with my own two eyes they jump out on some guys and slam them too the ground.Damn, 2,000 kes for a night! I am sure the foreign guy who posted that he paid 150 dollars for two girls feels stupid now.

Happy that the Kenyan man are not willing to pay overpriced for a girl. You need to understand this too, Kenyan girls love sex, especially with foreign, so if she says 10,000, it's just the opening price, she will get down even to 3000-4000 kes for a night, trust me.

[Mombie75]

In 22 yrs the most I have ever paid is 5 k and that was a one off in Nairobi.

I always give 3 k regardless even if we agree on 2 k.

$150, madness.

[World Jockey]

And if they ask you for money *before* you meet, that's a big red flag, I'm guessing?In Kenya not necessarily. They are so used to asking its like breathing for them. In any other country I've been to ID say yes LOL.

The thing is with so many available women in Kenya I just move on to the next if they ask for money up front. And in all hoesty if you tell the one you are meeting no its not like she will throw you away. Oncce Mr Mzungu is in her contacts he is there forever.

[World Jockey]

And if they ask you for money *before* you meet, that's a big red flag, I'm guessing?
Damn, 2,000 kes for a night! I am sure the foreign guy who posted that he paid 150 dollars for two girls feels stupid now.

Happy that the Kenyan man are not willing to pay overpriced for a girl. You need to understand this too, Kenyan girls love sex, especially with foreign, so if she says 10,000, it's just the opening price, she will get down even to 3000-4000 kes for a night, trust me.True. Even some foreigners know they deal. Last time I was in bistro I was eying two girls. A guy walked up to the one I really like and was dancing with her for about an hour so I talked to the friend.

Eventually I looked over and the dude was gone. I asked the friend is he coming back she was like nope. She then gave me a 10 k pitch. I laughed and went home myself.

[Tonsillol]

... She then gave me a 10 k pitch. I laughed and went home myself.10 k is the line where I think laughing and leaving or negotiating. Depends at some points like attitude, same fun level, etc. Was last year at Brew Bistro talking to two Ladies, we had some funny discussions. They offer me to go with them for each 15 k! At this point there were no room for discussion cause even when you bring them down to 4 or 5 k I think the "service" will lost. So I decided to say gentle goodbye to them.

To pay upfront is a red flag for me and it was not the first time to send them away even when she was at my place. Had such nonsense behavior from some nigerian Ladies in Dubai but also for only one time in Kampala while we were sitting in a taxi to my place. I immediately stopped the taxi and wished her a good night. Knowing that this means going home alone but I can't accept such stupidity.

[MwenByen]

To be honest I only been to 4 and for some odd reason they are extremely well hidden. On my first night in Nairobi I went to Umoja I walked up to a taxi cab driver and I asked him for a hole in the wall area were women dance and have sex with he told me about two locations in some apartments in Umoja. He told me he'll translate for me and he'll wait for me until I'm done for 3000 bob which seemed kinda reasonable. First place the guy took me to was in a extremely rundown apartment building with some Shiesty looking guys posted out front. They were frantically speaking to me in Kiswahili and upon coming inside it was a bunch dark skin African women with very nice looking shape dancing but they didn't look that clean. Lots of people drinking and smoking brought my taxi driver something to drink. And I called a chick over she wasn't from Kenya but from Tanzania. My taxi cab driver translated for me and she escorted me to a room I had to pay 200 bob for a bed that appeared to have bed bugs on it. Ok I offered to pay her 500 bob for some pictures and another 500 bob for a video of her twerking she agreed. After I was done I got the hell out of there and proceeded to head to the next shake joint. And by the way I was getting stares from the locals like hell but it wasn't nothing to make me feel uncomfortable. The next place I went to in Umoja was ran by some Nigerians and it was in a run down building I think it place was half locals and half west Africans inside. 15 women inside of that looked like they were of East African descent it wasn't much of a strip club but just Lingerie models serving drinks and foods with casual conversations going on I'm pretty sure sex could've been exchanged there but after that last visit I wasn't going to find out about this one neither. After 20 minutes inside and the women protecting men passed out due alcohol toxicity I left and asked my taxi driver to drop me off at Small Water Worlds strip club. He didn't know the address therefore I had to give it to him by via google. When I got there I arrived at a building that had no name. But there was a bouncer outside wearing regular street clothes. I asked him about the place and he told me it was this location. I walked inside and I had to go up roughly 7 flights of stairs to reach the place. Once inside I had to pay a 200 bob entry fee and I was greeted by the staff. They were playing mostly reggae music while the other strip joints in Umoja was playing gangster rap music. The locals were mostly valued by the women I noticed a trend the foreigners might have money but the women are mostly interested in the local men sometimes they'll even stop dancing for you even after getting paid 3000 bob after only 3 or 4 songs. It was 6 women dancing and they all stayed in Umoja. And some of these chicks look like rough looking hood girls. I witnessed the bouncer kick out 3 African men for harassing the dancers. Some of the girls in that strip club stink also. Just to be honest with you and I worked out a deal to have a threesome inside the VIP room for 5000 bob the VIP price was 300 bob. To be honest it was actually 5000 bob gone down the drain in a bizarre twist of fate. Word must of got out that it was about to happen and I noticed that more strippers with some clients came into watch as if it was live porn. Dudes was touching on the women while they was giving me a bbj it got to the point I had to leave. I wasn't mad but the VIP was a big open area and anyone can see what you're doing. And as I was about to leave I told the staff I was going to come back but not drunk because your wallet might come up missing in that place. Walking down river Road it was flooded with prostitutes who mainly claimed to stay in Umoja some of them were very nice and submissive women. While a lot of them were very aggressive, loud and out right violent! Unfortunately I had to walk pass the ghetto ones to get to Liddos I paid this one woman 500 bob to show me the direction she stopped at an incredibly dark street and this is CBD after midnight by the way and it had people moving in the shadows I proceeded and I asked this one old Kenyan man for the location and he showed me I had doubts until the bouncer showed me his uniform nice looking lady upstairs at the desk. And I walked inside a place that had African women of all shapes and sizes. That were mostly attractive brought the ladies some drinks kinda expensive you have purchase 2 bottles of anything there. Purchased the begging waiters there a drink and fast forwarding I ended upstairs with the hostess in the VIP room. There vip room was 4500 bob it accepts cards or Mpesa and she wanted roughly 3500 bob but worked it down to 3000. She showered and got undressed and she wanted me to film the encounter can't say no to that. We laid in the bed for another 1 hour and I left because it was getting late like 3 in the morning I had no idea what was lurking out in CBD at night. I walked around the corner and caught a moto taxi to my hotel and I visited those places like twice more during my stay in Kenya.

[Lakeside32]

To be honest I only been to 4 and for some odd reason they are extremely well hidden. On my first night in Nairobi I went to Umoja I walked up to a taxi cab driver and I asked him for a hole in the wall area were women dance and have sex with he told me about two locations in some apartments in Umoja. He told me he'll translate for me and he'll wait for me until I'm done for 3000 bob which seemed kinda reasonable. First place the guy took me to was in a extremely rundown apartment building with some Shiesty looking guys posted out front. They were frantically speaking to me in Kiswahili and upon coming inside it was a bunch dark skin African women with very nice looking shape dancing but they didn't look that clean. Lots of people drinking and smoking brought my taxi driver something to drink. And I called a chick over she wasn't from Kenya but from Tanzania. My taxi cab driver translated for me and she escorted me to a room I had to pay 200 bob for a bed that appeared to have bed bugs on it. Ok I offered to pay her 500 bob for some pictures and another 500 bob for a video of her twerking she agreed. After I was done I got the hell out of there and proceeded to head to the next shake joint. And by the way I was getting stares from the locals like hell but it wasn't nothing to make me feel uncomfortable. The next place I went to in Umoja was ran by some Nigerians and it was in a run down building I think it place was half locals and half west Africans inside. 15 women inside of that looked like they were of East African descent it wasn't much of a strip club but just Lingerie models serving drinks and foods with casual conversations going on I'm pretty sure sex could've been exchanged there but after that last visit I wasn't going to find out about this one neither. After 20 minutes inside and the women protecting men passed out due alcohol toxicity I left and asked my taxi driver to drop me off at Small Water Worlds strip club. He didn't know the address therefore I had to give it to him by via google. When I got there I arrived at a building that had no name. But there was a bouncer outside wearing regular street clothes. I asked him about the place and he told me it was this location. I walked inside and I had to go up roughly 7 flights of stairs to reach the place. Once inside I had to pay a 200 bob entry fee and I was greeted by the staff. They were playing mostly reggae music while the other strip joints in Umoja was playing gangster rap music. The locals were mostly valued by the women I noticed a trend the foreigners might have money but the women are mostly interested in the local men sometimes they'll even stop dancing for you even after getting paid 3000 bob after only 3 or 4 songs. It was 6 women dancing and they all stayed in Umoja. And some of these chicks look like rough looking hood girls. I witnessed the bouncer kick out 3 African men for harassing the dancers. Some of the girls in that strip club stink also. Just to be honest with you and I worked out a deal to have a threesome inside the VIP room for 5000 bob the VIP price was 300 bob.I thought I was tough enough for this mission until you mentioned stinky and bedbugs, LOL.

[MwenByen]

While in Nairobi I've been on River Road and it's connecting streets in the night time. I for one can say this they have some very shady characters to come from Umoja at least that's what they claim to set up shop and get their money from. The Kenyan women on River Road can be extremely aggressive and can potentially become violent during a discussion over the price of service. And by the way these women normally post up by Durma street and they normally run in packs and unfortunately I became a victim to them on my last day in Nairobi. While the Tanzania women who work that strip can become 2 times more aggressive than the Kenyan women LOL these girls will pretend like shit is cool until after sex is over with and then ask for money if you nice enough to do it they demand more in a threatening manner. And to be honest these girls run in packs also they claim for there safety due to the fact it's been recent attacks on women and customers refusing to pay. Coming to find out after fucking one of them she let her friend in the room and she's a lock on the door and both of them have knives demanding I pay 2000 bob more or else. I wasn't intimidated at all I easily disarmed one of them and asked the other to open unlocked the door and they began following me yelling and screaming he does not pay. By the way these tramps can be found by Gikomba streets and it's back areas with a landmark being a coach bus station area. You can tell some of these girls are in gangs and they get off by getting shit started with men who they think won't put they're foot in there ass! I ran into some bad apples over there on that strip but overall I met some cool ones in Kenya most women are the pimps on the streets and it was clearly explained to me and it's not necessarily that much of a profitable business mainly due to the high cost of living and low wages of male clients. Now these mamas as they are sometimes referred to can get a man to do something too you and that's only when he's around. There's plenty of fun to be had dealing with these girls there's always different girls out at night sometimes you see the same faces out but majority it's a new face out every night from what I've been seeing some were highly attractive looking ghetto girls while some look like below average looking girls to terrible looking drug addicts! When some of these girls get like 3000 bob they get the fuck on off that part of town mainly because of robbers or other women who try to strong are them for money. The cheapest quote I got was 350 bob and that's normally a scammer who's going to try to get more money out of you after the service is over with. Highest price I got quoted was 5000 bob. The highest I paid was 3000 bob with a tip only because some content was created most of the women charged me the local price 1000 bob and some offered to sleepover with unlimited sex for 5000 bob. Could they be trusted yes but I wasn't interested in that. Hotels charge on the average 500 bob for a one hour visit. The cheapest price I got was only 200 bob and that was because I was a regular there. Now some of those hotels have bed bugs and they haven't ate for days and I found that out the hard way when they got me. Overall I'll say proceed with extreme caution in that area here is the reason why some of those women in that area will say stupid shit to you when you pass them by this one lady who appears to be highly aggressive who went by the name of Pinkie started cussing me out so I started flirting with her mistake number one I should've left her alone and she began demanding I buy her some weed, coc, and perks and some local liquor that cost over 1000 bob in total that would've been 4500 bob on top of her 3000 bob service charge. I declined all of the above and she became enraged. Some Kenyan man asked her was everything ok and what's my problem mistake # 2 I slung him to the ground. I kept coming to that area (mistake #3) after getting into it with 3 different Tanzanian women and refusing to pay Pinky came to realize that I'm not afraid of the streets of Nairobi and word got back to me that she was going have me dealt with. I stopped visiting River Road area at night and on my last day I went to that area to see a slew of African women who had brick house thick bodies of goddesses and lord behold I walked into the hotel hallway door she was there and the women began talking to me about the price demanding 5000 bob each and she was speaking to them in some language and they began pulling on me and she joined in it to. I realized I was about to get robbed and what ended up happening was that another girl who was slim had went in my pockets stole 11000 bob and a cheap cellphone that cost around 8000 bob and ran fast while pinky ran up the stairs the other girls was try to block me from entering further it was like 7 of them total. The shit happened so fast I kinda got thrown off in the process I almost went into primal rage they got lucky that day because my flight was due in hours and it take hours to clear Kenya security screening. A woman who witnessed it eventually told me later on over a phone call that those women I got into with (pinky and Taz gals) was mamas (pimps).

[MwenByen]

Nairobi has a ridiculous amount of crime going on and if one was to sit in there hotel room and tune on the tv. You'll see it on the evening news even though the people are considered friendly doesn't necessarily makes sense to show off to a stranger that you potentially has wealth. There's a whole lot I want to say but I'm going to opted out from doing so. A dating is good for a meet and greet I'm pretty sure you'll find some out there that's willing to do it but when I used Tinder it was mostly Caucasian and Indian women on there. There's some misleading information on this site I read on here that made cashiers, hotel receptionists even working class women such as doctors and lawyers seem like sluts who's desperately willing to fuck guys from Europe or European background and that's not true. The media hides the fact that some guys are gullible and they get robbed quite often in Nairobi and they do have women to set you up. I picked on this when I came to the more urban areas there's a strong demand from the local women for gangster men in the Kenyan culture. And you're hearing this from a guy that's part black / African. Like I said proceed with caution when showing you got money 2 Rivers Mall is a luxury mall in Nairobi.


Hi everyone,

I am thinking of staying for a week at the Holiday Inn attached to the Two Rivers Mall. I am a late forties Canadian Caucasian that is in good shape and look young for my age. What would be my success of talking to random women at the mall between the ages of 25 too 45 and progressing to drinks / dinner and fun back at my hotel? What about tinder, do you think girls would be willing to come to Twoo Rivers Mall to meet me? Or is it better to stay somewhere else? Thanks so much for your help.

[Pokeris]

I stopped visiting River Road area at night and on my last day I went to that area to see a slew of African women who had brick house thick bodies of goddesses and lord behold I walked into the hotel hallway door she was there and the women began talking to me about the price demanding 5000 bob each and she was speaking to them in some language and they began pulling on me and she joined in it to. I realized I was about to get robbed and what ended up happening was that another girl who was slim had went in my pockets stole 11000 bob and a cheap cellphone that cost around 8000 bob and ran fast while pinky ran up the stairs the other girls was try to block me from entering further it was like 7 of them total. The shit happened so fast I kinda got thrown off in the process I almost went into primal rage they got lucky that day because my flight was due in hours and it take hours to clear Kenya security screening. A woman who witnessed it eventually told me later on over a phone call that those women I got into with (pinky and Taz gals) was mamas (pimps).I don't have time to read all your other reports to make sure you are genuine but If your story is truth somehow you are playing with your life man!! Its silly to go this kind of places if you don't have any clue what are you doing and the prices you been quoted is rip off. IF you look for cheap sex and a bit more safety environment next time better go Sabina joy offer girl 1000 bob for short time +300 pay for room and don't have all this kind of problems.

[Tonsillol]

I don't have time to read all your other reports to make sure you are genuine but If your story is truth somehow you are playing with your life man!! Its silly to go this kind of places if you don't have any clue what are you doing and the prices you been quoted is rip off. IF you look for cheap sex and a bit more safety environment next time better go Sabina joy offer girl 1000 bob for short time +300 pay for room and don't have all this kind of problems.I agree with you. We all like the hunting but if someone is threatened or even hurt, the fun stops!! I'm not flying for hours to have some risky holidays.

Would also suggest Sabina or this place next to eureka hotel. OK, it's not the shaking booty place like Liddos but saver than trying your luck in Umoja. But keep an eye at your belongings doesn't matter where you are. I know what I'm talking about. Would also say the price was too high, for this money you get easy a threesome for the night.

Tinder works in my opinion but you have to divide them from the ones who want to get married immediately. Talking to ladies on the street and hoping they are happy to go for fun with you is more likely a good night story. Will not working until you are not looking like a 10 on a male scale.

[Mombie75]

File that report under. The manual of what not to do in Nairobi.

High risk of robbery, arrest, set up arrest, stabbed, shot, beaten.

Each to their own but when you can use tinder etc or just approach random women it is not the best way to monger for the majority of visitors.

[MwenByen]

I was in Nairobi for almost 3. 5 weeks and I've been inside of that place at least 30 times. I noticed that this isn't a locals favorite type establishment as in the women tend to sit around only Kenyan men in hopes to get money from them. It's located across the street from Liddos staff is hella cool, the lounge area has a terrible stench of urine. It really don't bother me much. The hookers beg like hell but after buying too many gals in Sabrina's a beer I learned my lesson I preferred to drink my own liquor there. Cheapest quote I got for sex was 300 bob and you know that's the same price as the room. I already know when you go upstairs which I never been the price is going to increase to over 1500 bob. Some women use all types of tactics to get me to go upstairs like let's sit down and talk and drink. She has her own room here or she's a good twerker. Or she's a certified lesbian none of that worked for me the women are mostly older early 30's with middle builds there's young slim tenders that shows up. Mostly in the daytime and they tend to be less assertive than the older ones. Kenyan men mainly comes here to drink and party there is security upstairs and downstairs. I can tell it's very slow for sexual services but in a country where $400 is good money charging one customer 4000 bob can make a big difference in a loss of sales. I might give these girls a shot on my next visit there the women are very assertive in getting you in the room with so called threesomes and lesbian sex which I know is a lie. I had a buddy of mines from Uganda to proposition them in that and they told him no! I've been scammed many times by River Road streetwalkers who claimed they'll let me take pictures or videos of them but in reality just want sex when I get into the room and I noticed some River Road SW's post up in there and some of the women would say I like to be on video or photos allowed that let me know they be talking to each other.

[MwenByen]

I had to the opportunity to visit this establishment at least 20 times while I was in Nairobi. This place seems to be more of a regulars bar in terms women tend to give top priority to there regulars even when they have no money to spend on them. I heard to many stories from Kenyan women trash talking local men about how they are so broke, cheap and don't like to take care of their women. And they don't like them at all I find that as nothing more than a bunch mere hogwash! They flock to these broke jokers like flies on shit and they skip over any foreigners that are in that establishment. The question is did I enjoy myself there yes I had. Other than River Road this is the only place I could recommend that had Kenyan women that was slim and it looked appealing on them overall most of the women had medium size body frames with asses to match. Made some connections with several Kenyan women with outside the club activity. The cheapest price quote I gotten was 1500 shillings with the highest price quote I gotten was 6000 bob. And it was some chick from the West of Kenya had extremely strong Sundanese features! I had a buddy of mines to propositioned her and she gave him a 1500 bob price quote I confronted her about it she just walked away from me. Rooms are 300 bob and they have a vip area for 1500 bob. I had no idea the ladies like would be posted around the corner of the bathroom stalls. They wave and try to convince you to go with them they only do that to foreigners. After a hella of a experience in Eastleigh I knew that was a tactic to over charge a tourist for sex. I had sex with 10 different women inside that establishment and let me say this. This lounge has a drink requirement I paid drinks for numerous ladies sometimes even for Kenyan women sitting in a group and the severs was not satisfied until I had something in my system. A manager had to tell them to don't bother me if I'm paying for drinks for the women there. I noticed if you buy Kenyan women drinks or some food there it doesn't knock off the price of sex with the girl. Once inside the room they still jacked up the price on me they kept saying I got money. I was like ok never again the average price given to me behind closed doors came up to 2500 bob. Two things there are different girls there every day I learned some get on the internet and find dates. And finally some women are extremely territorial about their clients this one lady chopped me in my throat after she saw me leave out the room with another woman. Ok, overall pleasant experience nice selection of women there best ones are there in the Afternoon time.

[MwenByen]

So when I was in Sabrina's Pub and Liddos I managed to exchange numbers with some women who worked there and we was in communication via WhatsApp. After my departure from Kenya I had these women still texting me and calling me every other day and some of them will even ask me to Mpesa them some money. Never sent them not one damn dime and just my me being honest they are asking me to send them some big money which is equivalent to $50. I had laughed at this one stipper at Liddos named Ivy for asking me for that type of money I thought that shit was ridiculous. And it's not only her it's like 7 more other girls I was getting too many messages coming to my phone with chicks asking me for money it got to the point I had log out my what's app account. Some of the girls we're starting to get sophisticated with their tactics. They were trying to convince me that we are in a relationship our sexual encounters was not transactional and next time we meet it's going to be us making love. This one chick named Constance's from Sabrina's pub she tells me everyday that she wants to have my baby and she can't wait to see me. Now keep in mind she wants me to take her on a trip to Zanzibar and Mombasa. I really can't see myself spending a couple hundred dollars on a African hooker and not only that her romance game sounds wack! At least in Asian countries they give you a stronger sense of we are really in love and they try to prove themselves heavily in order to get in your pockets. I met this one Rwandan chick in CBD she was a call girl only seen her once and she keeps talking about how she miss me and she wouldn't mind marrying me I'm the type of man she's being looking for. And one day she asked me when will I be ready to take her to Dani Beach for her birthday, never heard of the place until I used google. Unfortunately most of the women stoop messaging me when I told them that I'm out of work and I'm going through a crisis. It seems like love is very transactional in Kenya now and days. From my perspective I rather just pay to play than actually have a girlfriend while I have my stay in Kenya.

[MwenByen]

Most women who work online knows that foreigners in particular European men will pay such ridiculous prices in Africa. That's why you see the atypical European standard of beauty body African women hanging around in there areas. I never posted this story but when Horn of African women in particular Somali women gets a visit from western or middle Eastern men the price tends to go over $100 for full service and it's $15 for locals. They become extremely aggressive when you try to leave demanding half the payment for wasting their time. Prostitution is not very profitable in Africa unless a tourist from a wealthy country shows up and that's when the women can really eat. I agree that is messing the game up however I also learned that if the woman posts $200 as her price and she's getting business then the agency wants a $50 cut. I met a Kenyan woman who was making good money and staying in a very nice condo in Westlands full furnished with AC! At first I thought she was getting mad business from the escort agency nah she has plenty of guys doing stupid shit like western Union her money so she can live her luxurious lifestyle. I find that out when she asked me to go half on her with a iPhone 12 Pro Max she was requesting 54000 bob! And that's when she broke it down to me how some of these girls survive they keep the money coming in mainly due to Mzungus who got nothing better to do than send super duper stupid money to snobby Kenyan women!


200 usd, and she didn't do overnight!! To each their own butttt goddamn folks like you be messing the market up!!

[MwenByen]

I'm going to say this right, I think that's kinda like a generalization but I can say this anytime you're meeting up with a woman for pay for play (prostitution) majority of the times she's going to be pathologically lying about something and that's regardless of us she's Kenyan, Colombian or Russian it's in a prostitute nature to lie about shit. And a long time ago my mom told me there's no such thing as a honest ho! I was new to the game living in the Philippines in the early 2000's when I found myself in a romance scam when I left Manila and moved to Thailand and I found myself sending $3000 to my Filipino girlfriend and I never heard from her again. And after moving to Thailand I caught myself spending uncontrollably on my Thai mistresses and I wised up after making an I'm broke please help me phone call to my parents who lived at a time in a very poor country. I was a very young man then, I choose the wrong women who was really good liars but. Anyway going back to Kenya the information Kenyan people provided me was golden if you run into a woman who doesn't have her ID and I mean never has it that might be someone you don't want to deal with. I was told it's best to deal with Kenyan women who works for escort agencies and most Kenyan men prefer that or strip chat. I was told due to an very high cost of living and rampant drug problem and a society that's still generally superstitious as a whole this is a very dangerous country and your life can be in danger at all times. And let the truth be told that was the truth, I was told be cautious when doing business with working girls in Eastliegh and I'll be damn they were right. I asked the women on the street when is the best time of the day to catch Chinese and other races of men on River Road looking for sex. They told me the exact time frame and I saw them there and there's a whole lot I can go on to discuss about this but I'm not going to do it. I was warned to never have a drink over a Kenyan lady house they'll put something in there to make you go to sleep, or make your body weak and a group of Kenyan men will come through the door and mug you. Most of these girls don't know that I have many international years in this game and I'm one step ahead of them. Overall the conversations the locals had with me was generally truthful including the hookers. Most of the lies I got on an average from them was they'll say oh I'll let you shoot video or take photo of me only to get you to pay for sex with them. And one side note I do know is that this is a society we're that if you stand your ground like a man it gives you hella respect.

[Jargonizations]

Strip bar located off of Muhoho Road in the Nairobi West area. The entry stairway is beside the 24/7 "frys & chicken" restaurant located out front. The very first thing you'll encounter once inside is a pole located smack dab in the middle of the small space. There are no bad seats here so pick a spot and get ready for some action. There is a pathway next to the bar leading back to where the magic happens. The girls all take turns on the pole which makes it super easy to make your choice. Some girls will get naked while others won't.

The girl I chose was seated at the back when I walked in and her smile and pleasant demeanor sealed the deal. After a few cold Heineken's at 300 each she joined me and offered to grind her crotch on me at the back VIP area for 300 a song. This is just a room in the back with very uncomfortable couches backed up agains the wall. Some of the non-dancing girls will also be back here chilling or on their phones and they will also offer to dance once your girl leaves for her mandatory pole dance session. She unlatched her onesie, propped one leg on the couch, put her crotch on me and ground away. It's 3100 to fuck (2000 to her 1100 to the house) in one of the rooms. Paid and moved my beer's into the tiny dimly lit room with a massage table wedged on one side.

Hang my shit up on the chair, rolled the house rubber onto my member and mounted her doggy. I'd drank quite a few beers and the heavy condom wasn't helping things. I started sweating and so did she. After 15 minutes, she hopped off to get water and napkins to wipe my face. The fucking resumed! After a few more minutes she pulled away and sat on the bed drinking while staring at my still erect alcohol-desensitized member. I don't think she expected / wanted to be fucked this long.

Off came the rubber and she jerked me off to completion while licking my nipples. Decent location with plenty of girls of every shape and size available. Spotted a Somali chap stroll in with his Khat / Miraa grab a chick and head off to the back to get work done. They cater to everybody.

[Jargonizations]

This is a lower working class neighborhood located south of the JKIA airport. The women here cater to the locals and the rate for a single "shot" is 200 bob! Quality varies but these chicks are some of the same ones unsuspecting mongers are wining and dining in Nairobi's hottest nightspots. Where did you think SOME of the birds posting on IG / Tinder / Badoo come from? Don't visit without a local guide otherwise you risk becoming the victim of an opportunistic crime. We're all adults engaged in an activity that is frowned upon by society but managing your risk is your personal responsibility! It don't take much to get roofied here AND in other parts of Nairobi!

Club 110 is a strip bar located among a row of businesses facing Mombasa Rd. Girls dance on certain days and if you like what you see, rooms are upstairs. The bartender and DJ operate behind lockable metal cages but you already knew that this wasn't your run of the mill bar in Westlands didn't you? If you're risk averse, visit the restaurant next door and insist on getting seated at the upstairs balcony. After your meal, wash your hands and proceed to smash the chicks renting those rooms behind the bar. Night time mongers read on.

After a few cold beers (300 each), exit the club and hang a right and head to the alleys in the back. You'll eventually start running into skimpily dressed women roaming around looking for clients. Occasionally, they'll post up in groups around doorways and in other instances lay in beds in rooms with the door ajar legs wide open! Check ID, pay 200 bob, fuck and leave! My partner and I collected two Ugandan spinners out of Club 110 and fucked them at the Continental inn. We pre-negotiated with security to ensure that if 4 people went into the rooms, it was 4 leaving afterwards. You can't afford to be sloppy here!

[Jargonizations]

Another infamous strip club located in the sketchiest parts of downtown Nairobi. There's no signage outside and unless you've been there, you'll never find it. A hidden security guy watching the street from behind a padlocked gate (with metal surrounds) is your first and only clue! To add to the sketchiness, the shared taxi I called up afterwards drove up and left. Entry way is in the pic!

The space itself is nothing to write home about. Another dimly lit spot with porn playing on flat screens, stripper poles, an idiot DJ taking over every record and couches wedged into any available space. Continuing with the hustle, you must prepay for a minimum of two drinks every time you order. I sat on an empty spot by the wall and started perusing the talent sliding up and down the poles. You'll get approached as soon as you're settled in. It won't take long.

On principle, I reject the first few girls that approach regardless of look. It's just my way of weeding out the hustlers and it's always worked for me. Around midnight, a "show" with a dildo and soapy water started. I hadn't seen this chick at first and on closer inspection realized she had very nice legs and a natural bubble on her. Bought her a drink after her show and moved her upstairs into one of the rooms for adult playtime. I don't know how this happened but the sight of the soapy water bouncing off of her skin in the shower drove me to mount and then blow the mother of all loads in what felt like seconds. These are the kind of loads that take a minute to recover from and I wasn't going to recharge before it was time to exit the rooms.

It was still too early to call it a night so I inquired if she could leave and she stated I had to pay 10 K to get her out. Paid the fee and took her straight to another night spot and later spent parts of the very next day at my place with her playing with my dick. An issue with these spots is you'll eventually get claimed by a chick and she'll become a problem when you next show up looking to fuck another broad. Aim to randomly show up and leave immediately afterwards. Encountered this issue at 207 too and that report is incoming. I knocked off three chicks over consecutive days before I had to quit!