Mombasa

[Slowalk]

I live in Western Kenya but traveling along the coast the last couple weeks. 90% of Kenyan drivers have zero concern for anyone else's safety. There's an intersection mear Nakuru where 78 people were killed in one wreck just two weeks ago. 100's have died at that same intersection each year. Drivers aren't penalized, cops don't manage the intersection; they are elsewhere at a choke point collecting bribes. Kenyan government pay no mind.

If you ride a bike, bring safety and rain gear from home. Take care of yourself and always be prepared to emergency exit the road. Trucks, busses, Matatu and tuktuk will just blow their horn for you to exit the road. Kenyans are monkeys behind the wheel.

Nyali and Mtwapa are higher volume traffic areas while out in western it's higher speed. It's bad enough trying to navigate traffic in front of you that you can see but it's all but impossible to predict what chaos the idiots are creating behind you to crash into you because you didn't recognize their horn among all the other monkeys on the road sounding their horns.

[Oiste]

I heard he drove a Motorbike and was hit in the back of a high speed Truck. The Truck belongs to a big Companie they will / want to pay for the funeral and the transport back to Germany.I see so many in Mtwapa on motos s and without a helmet, maybe it's the fact of fucking girls that gives them the illusion of being young too. But the reflexes are very different. In all Mombasa driving a bike is unconscious, only 3 months ago died an Italian in Mtwapa, always on the moto. But with a tuk tuk, it's 200 shillings and the chances of ending up like a dog in Africa are considerably reduced.

[Mombie75]

The crazy thing is using a Matatu is the safer than a bike and a tuk tuk.

You get hit on a bike it is likely you have serious problems, a tuk tuk a little bit of a chance.

However, traffic gets out of the way of the Matatus you just hope the driver does not hit a lorry or car head on.

The real question is, is it the traffic or the girls which is more dangerous?

[Slowalk]

I'm touring the coast and landed in Mtwapa last week for the first time. On Tuesday night, I flagged a Boda to go to Casaurina Nomad (Something like that). The Boda pulled into the nearly baren parking lot and said he knew a better place called Screenshot. Half expecting to be taken to a remote area and get rolled, I zipped up all my pockets and agreed to go. I was surprised that he took me to a clean, new club called The Screenshot Lounge. Many ladies and one other Mzungu. I don't normally take out from nightspots but, sometimes I can't help myself: in the end, she's from near where I live in Western Kenya.

[Radical Guy]

I'm touring the coast and landed in Mtwapa last week for the first time. On Tuesday night, I flagged a Boda to go to Casaurina Nomad (Something like that). The Boda pulled into the nearly baren parking lot and said he knew a better place called Screenshot. Half expecting to be taken to a remote area and get rolled, I zipped up all my pockets and agreed to go. I was surprised that he took me to a clean, new club called The Screenshot Lounge. Many ladies and one other Mzungu. I don't normally take out from nightspots but, sometimes I can't help myself: in the end, she's from near where I live in Western Kenya.Wow, that ass really got my mouth watering!

RG.

[Slowalk]

The crazy thing is using a Matatu is the safer than a bike and a tuk tuk.

You get hit on a bike it is likely you have serious problems, a tuk tuk a little bit of a chance.

However, traffic gets out of the way of the Matatus you just hope the driver does not hit a lorry or car head on.

The real question is, is it the traffic or the girls which is more dangerous?

Matatu isn't safe at all. The wrecks near Nakuru involve tractor trucks smashing into busses and matatus. When it rains bodas and pedestrians take cover under covered vending areas. Most who are killed in these accidents are not driving but taking refuge off the road.
I’ve been hit twice by bicycles, once by a car mirror and once by a Matatu door while walking on the shoulder. They yell at you for being in their way.
Just imagine a road derby where 5 qualified drivers are to navigate though a course filled with 50 vehicles of every type and disrepair driven by Monkeys who are staring out of the side window, amusing themselves with a phone and randomly honking. That is the best way to describe the roadways of Kenya.

[Reiner Otto]

Considering a change, not to go to Thailand, but Kenya end of year, I joined Tinder and enjoy many contacts. However, because the most beautiful "ladies" in Thailand are men, I have to ask: Are there many "ladyboys" in Kenya, too?

[Slowalk]

Considering a change, not to go to Thailand, but Kenya end of year, I joined Tinder and enjoy many contacts. However, because the most beautiful "ladies" in Thailand are men, I have to ask: Are there many "ladyboys" in Kenya, too?Illegal but you can try it from an African jail or go to Rio.

[AfAsia]

It seems you have found your homecoming on the African continent Slowalk? Shortly you will be the East African 'go to' man for all information including how to bend the ladies over the moto seat, now that certainly gives motorbikes greater usefulness. What motorcycle do you have and what are the licensing requirements if any?

From your remarks on the forum you appear pretty happy, additionally with all the fine Kenyan ass to boot.

[Leblon]

Considering a change, not to go to Thailand, but Kenya end of year, I joined Tinder and enjoy many contacts. However, because the most beautiful "ladies" in Thailand are men, I have to ask: Are there many "ladyboys" in Kenya, too?There are no ladyboys, at least I don't know any place. In East Africa, laws and people attitudes are against this. In Uganda they just made very strict law against homosexuality. Dead penalty?

I know many bisexual girls, I like them. Somehow most of the girls who are working in the bars start to like other girls, that is in every country.

Although I don't like these laws I like more East Africa than Thailand because you don't have to worry if pretty girl is girl really.

But, I think this subject is not allowed to be discussed in this forum.

[Slowalk]

Shortly you will be the East African 'go to' man for all information I still ask others about other East African countries. Neddy for one. A type of VoA is offered on TZ and UG borders; eVISA is necessary if you enter the country at the airport. I don't know as much as I'the like. Careful on this site because most I believe are frauds and copying others info into their reports.

No licensing. Get a KRA tax ID and have the dealer get you insurance. I already posted about what to get for motorcycle size and type. 200-400 Enduro.

[Jalle]

You're right East Africa is not Thailand in this regard.

However, times are changing in Africa too. There are a couple of places in Nairobi where I've seen ladyboys recently. The Alchemist bar in Westlands had a group of ladyboys on both nights I visited there. People didn't pay any attention and most guys are there to pick girls anyway.

Sorry for off-topic post.


There are no ladyboys, at least I don't know any place. In East Africa, laws and people attitudes are against this. In Uganda they just made very strict law against homosexuality. Dead penalty?

I know many bisexual girls, I like them. Somehow most of the girls who are working in the bars start to like other girls, that is in every country.

Although I don't like these laws I like more East Africa than Thailand because you don't have to worry if pretty girl is girl really.

But, I think this subject is not allowed to be discussed in this forum.

[Oiste]

The crazy thing is using a Matatu is the safer than a bike and a tuk tuk.

You get hit on a bike it is likely you have serious problems, a tuk tuk a little bit of a chance.

However, traffic gets out of the way of the Matatus you just hope the driver does not hit a lorry or car head on.

The real question is, is it the traffic or the girls which is more dangerous?Ha ha ha You're right, girls are much more dangerous! That's why I recommend to obtain a "driving license to the afro pussy" before arriving in Kenya because the risk of breaking the heart, for a poor fool, is very high. About the urban transport of Mombasa I say what I think, and I am NOT a professor: never take a bike, always tuk tuk, Matatu only if the world is ending. In the evening Uber no doubt.

[Mombie75]

Ha ha ha You're right, girls are much more dangerous! That's why I recommend to obtain a "driving license to the afro pussy" before arriving in Kenya because the risk of breaking the heart, for a poor fool, is very high. About the urban transport of Mombasa I say what I think, and I am NOT a professor: never take a bike, always tuk tuk, Matatu only if the world is ending. In the evening Uber no doubt.Tuk tuks get no more respect than bikes from cars and matatus and they offer no safety of impact. The best time to use matatus is when the roads are busy as they can not pick up speed. When roads are quiet and they speed then they are more dangerous. Even cars, in 20_years of living and holidaying in Kenya I have yet to meet a Kenyan that can actually drive reasonably well. Kenyans are not able to anticipate any danger on a road. They can anticipate money though.

[Dizaster]

Considering a change, not to go to Thailand, but Kenya end of year, I joined Tinder and enjoy many contacts. However, because the most beautiful "ladies" in Thailand are men, I have to ask: Are there many "ladyboys" in Kenya, too?Man I hope not. The prevalence of HIV among Kenyan women in the general population is much higher than males now can you imagine adding Transgenders into the mix? Its going to be the end of days for Kenya for sure.

[SceticoBlu]

The best time to use matatus is when the roads are busy as they can not pick up speed. When roads are quiet and they speed then they are more dangerous.Well when roads are busy they overtake and expect the coming car in the other direction to give way. Humps on the roads, telephonnumbers to report reckless drivers, nothing can stop them.

[Mdemde]

I was in Kenya earlier this month, with 1 week in Nairobi and 1 week in Mombasa. It was my first visit to Kenya.

I had a coffee date with one girl in Mombasa whom I met via Tinder. I didn't talk about sex during the Tinder chat and didn't mention payment. After the first date I asked her out for dinner the next day, and then asked her to come and stay with me for a few days and she agreed. No money was mentioned, but she was 22 and I'm pushing 70 so I'm not kidding myself that she is after me for my youthful looks.

So, in bed, at my hotel room, I'm getting ready to have sex with her then she asks me to put on a condom and despite my sweet talk she firmly refused to have sex unless I was covered up. I asked her if she could give me a CIM BJ or a swallow BJ instead, but she declined, and said she would only give a BJ if I finished outside.

In the end, we didn't have sex, and I didn't get a BJ. I would rather not have sex at all than to have sex and use a condom, or for a BJ it has to be either a CIM or a cum swallow or not at all!

She was a nice girl and pleasant to be with, and I did stay with her a few days and apart from DFK and some fingering and groping, there was no sex. I bought her a few items of clothing and gave her a little bit of pocket money when we parted company.

[Radical Guy]

I was in Kenya earlier this month, with 1 week in Nairobi and 1 week in Mombasa. It was my first visit to Kenya.

I had a coffee date with one girl in Mombasa whom I met via Tinder. I didn't talk about sex during the Tinder chat and didn't mention payment. After the first date I asked her out for dinner the next day, and then asked her to come and stay with me for a few days and she agreed. No money was mentioned, but she was 22 and I'm pushing 70 so I'm not kidding myself that she is after me for my youthful looks.

So, in bed, at my hotel room, I'm getting ready to have sex with her then she asks me to put on a condom and despite my sweet talk she firmly refused to have sex unless I was covered up. I asked her if she could give me a CIM BJ or a swallow BJ instead, but she declined, and said she would only give a BJ if I finished outside.

In the end, we didn't have sex, and I didn't get a BJ. I would rather not have sex at all than to have sex and use a condom, or for a BJ it has to be either a CIM or a cum swallow or not at all!

She was a nice girl and pleasant to be with, and I did stay with her a few days and apart from DFK and some fingering and groping, there was no sex. I bought her a few items of clothing and gave her a little bit of pocket money when we parted company.You used an incorrect strategy. I've been to Mombasa 4 times before, and had wonderful times with 4 different beautiful slim girls, all under 22 years old. I met them on Tinder, then chatted for a couple of weeks on WhatsApp. In that process I truthfully let them know that I'm allergic to latex and couldn't use a condom. They were all fine with that as long as we used the rapid 30-minute HIV test, which can be purchased cheap at any pharmacy. We did that, and everything was awesome after that.

And I'm 65 years old. None asked for money, but I gave them 10,000 shillings each at the end of each 2-week vacation. I'm going back next month to spend another 2 weeks with a 19-year-old spinner I've lined up. Same deal, no condoms.

RG.

[Oiste]

I was in Kenya earlier this month, with 1 week in Nairobi and 1 week in Mombasa. It was my first visit to Kenya.

I had a coffee date with one girl in Mombasa whom I met via Tinder. I didn't talk about sex during the Tinder chat and didn't mention payment. After the first date I asked her out for dinner the next day, and then asked her to come and stay with me for a few days and she agreed. No money was mentioned, but she was 22 and I'm pushing 70 so I'm not kidding myself that she is after me for my youthful looks.

So, in bed, at my hotel room, I'm getting ready to have sex with her then she asks me to put on a condom and despite my sweet talk she firmly refused to have sex unless I was covered up. I asked her if she could give me a CIM BJ or a swallow BJ instead, but she declined, and said she would only give a BJ if I finished outside.

In the end, we didn't have sex, and I didn't get a BJ. I would rather not have sex at all than to have sex and use a condom, or for a BJ it has to be either a CIM or a cum swallow or not at all!

She was a nice girl and pleasant to be with, and I did stay with her a few days and apart from DFK and some fingering and groping, there was no sex. I bought her a few items of clothing and gave her a little bit of pocket money when we parted company.To be 22 years old but two breasts so drooping boh. People are satisfied really little. About the condom probably will not make a difference to you, you will think for sure that at your age even if you get so sick your life has already experienced it but AIDS in Kenya is extremely widespread.

[Radical Guy]

To be 22 years old but two breasts so drooping boh. People are satisfied really little. About the condom probably will not make a difference to you, you will think for sure that at your age even if you get so sick your life has already experienced it but AIDS in Kenya is extremely widespread.I take precautions so the risk is minimal, albeit not nonexistent. But for me, sex with a condom is like not having sex at all. Why bother? Life is full of risks. I think it's riskier walking along the street in Mombasa with all the crazy drivers.

[On The Road]

Hello fellow friends, I'm looking for a decent GF hotel in Mombasa, arriving in a few days.

So bad both The New Big Tree and Sheratton beach villagio are full, any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.

[Mombie75]

Hello fellow friends, I'm looking for a decent GF hotel in Mombasa, arriving in a few days.

So bad both The New Big Tree and Sheratton beach villagio are full, any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.Try Sai Rock apartments or Indiana beach.

[Reiner Otto]

Being first time in Mombasa next month, which area to stay, for hunting?

Actually I am looking at Bamburis beach area. Good idea?

[Mombie75]

Being first time in Mombasa next month, which area to stay, for hunting?

Actually I am looking at Bamburis beach area. Good idea?Yes if you want beach. If you want away from beach then Mtwapa or Bamburi that is inland and not on the beach itself.

[Mdemde]

To be 22 years old but two breasts so drooping boh. People are satisfied really little. About the condom probably will not make a difference to you, you will think for sure that at your age even if you get so sick your life has already experienced it but AIDS in Kenya is extremely widespread.I did of course notice the slightly drooping breasts, but only when she was in back in my hotel room and got undressed! She had no kids, but told me she used to weigh about 10 kg more than her current weight. I suspect that when she was chubbier it caused her breasts to start to sag.

[Mombie75]

I did of course notice the slightly drooping breasts, but only when she was in back in my hotel room and got undressed! She had no kids, but told me she used to weigh about 10 kg more than her current weight. I suspect that when she was chubbier it caused her breasts to start to sag.Remember the number one rule in Kenya.

Everything you are told is a lie.

[Reiner Otto]

Yes if you want beach. If you want away from beach then Mtwapa or Bamburi that is inland and not on the beach itself.Thanks, flight is booked.

Not to spoil the market: Having got good responses on tinder, what is a reasonable rate for a real spinner in Mombasa, per shot?

Planning some safari, how much for a companion per day?

[Radical Guy]

Thanks, flight is booked.

Not to spoil the market: Having got good responses on tinder, what is a reasonable rate for a real spinner in Mombasa, per shot?

Planning some safari, how much for a companion per day?As for me, if a babe quotes a "rate," then she's a P4 P pro, and I'm not interested. My last time there back in April, I selected a 19-year-old insatiable spinner. Sure, I paid for meals and had a nice tour for Fort Jesus. But it was a real girlfriend experience, and money was never discussed. She was with me 24 hours a day for two weeks, almost raping me constantly. I gave her 10,000 shillings at the end of my vacation. I'm seeing her again next month for another 2 weeks. Tinder is full of jewels like this, but you have to take some advance time and effort to screen out the ones that start asking for money.

RG.

[Mombie75]

Thanks, flight is booked.

Not to spoil the market: Having got good responses on tinder, what is a reasonable rate for a real spinner in Mombasa, per shot?

Planning some safari, how much for a companion per day?I always take a short time which is 1-2 hrs and I will pop 1-3 times depending how I feel. I always give them 2-3 k.

I make it clear up front how long and what I want.

Never had a problem with this method in 20 yrs.

[SuperChuck]

Hello everyone,

I'm Superchuck, new to this forum but not to the gazelle hunt. I read the fucking forum in all its pages, really funny yeah, then I did research on my own but the years pass and situations change, that's why I allow myself to ask some not too obvious questions. I was in Lamu and Watamu many years ago and today I have the opportunity to return to my beloved Kenyan negrettes and I chose to stay for three months in Mombasa and precisely in Mtwapa. The choice is due to the fact that from what I understand Nyali is a little hunting territory of rich white tourists, no much movement in the streets and especially several night clubs that I do not like to attend. I look for females in the streets during the day, into the shops or markets or on the beach.

Even Bamburi does not inspire me, I visited it virtually with Google Street View and apart from the main road it seemed dispersed. Okay, I know, it doesn't mean anything, but that's my impression.

Mtwapa instead attracted me and also the reports I read in the forum pushed me to make this choice. But what makes me think is: how much has Mtwapa changed in terms of security compared to what was written in the posts 10-15 years ago? Curiosity therefore concerns the safety issue, what is the situation? At night I don't go to clubs and I don't get drunk but I still like to go out for one beer after having fun with a beautiful girl.

Anyway I found and made arrangements for two separate apartments fully furnished: one in Bamburi on the main road 400 meters from Drips for 2000 Kes per day. The other at Mtwapa around the Merry Villa for 1800 Kes per day.

It seems to me that Mtwapa can offers something more and that the area is more collected but I ask for fresh information to yours thanks.

[HappyFarang]

Hello everyone,

I'm Superchuck, new to this forum but not to the gazelle hunt. I read the fucking forum in all its pages, really funny yeah, then I did research on my own but the years pass and situations change, that's why I allow myself to ask some not too obvious questions. I was in Lamu and Watamu many years ago and today I have the opportunity to return to my beloved Kenyan negrettes and I chose to stay for three months in Mombasa and precisely in Mtwapa. The choice is due to the fact that from what I understand Nyali is a little hunting territory of rich white tourists, no much movement in the streets and especially several night clubs that I do not like to attend. I look for females in the streets during the day, into the shops or markets or on the beach.

Even Bamburi does not inspire me, I visited it virtually with Google Street View and apart from the main road it seemed dispersed. Okay, I know, it doesn't mean anything, but that's my impression.

Mtwapa instead attracted me and also the reports I read in the forum pushed me to make this choice. But what makes me think is: how much has Mtwapa changed in terms of security compared to what was written in the posts 10-15 years ago? Curiosity therefore concerns the safety issue, what is the situation? At night I don't go to clubs and I don't get drunk but I still like to go out for one beer after having fun with a beautiful girl.

Anyway I found and made arrangements for two separate apartments fully furnished: one in Bamburi on the main road 400 meters from Drips for 2000 Kes per day. The other at Mtwapa around the Merry Villa for 1800 Kes per day.

It seems to me that Mtwapa can offers something more and that the area is more collected but I ask for fresh information to yours thanks.Hello, very interesting post. I have just booked tickets for Mombasa, 2 weeks between October and November. My first time!

I have been reading this forum and I still have a lot to read, so I couldn't form an opinion on which beach would be best, but the main ones seem to be Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu, Mtwapa. Have you looked into Shanzu?

Regarding the accommodations, how did you find them? Are you confident that they are girl-friendly?

I am looking on AirBnB but don't know how to approach the question regarding girls visiting my flat.

If anyone knows of hosts / flats in Mombasa, feel free to PM me. .

[Radical Guy]

Hello, very interesting post. I have just booked tickets for Mombasa, 2 weeks between October and November. My first time!

I have been reading this forum and I still have a lot to read, so I couldn't form an opinion on which beach would be best, but the main ones seem to be Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu, Mtwapa. Have you looked into Shanzu?

Regarding the accommodations, how did you find them? Are you confident that they are girl-friendly?

I am looking on AirBnB but don't know how to approach the question regarding girls visiting my flat.

If anyone knows of hosts / flats in Mombasa, feel free to PM me. .Yes, I was in Shanzu for 3 weeks, last May. I booked this AirBnB.

https://abnb.me/c7XlEPxOBCb

It was awesome. Maid service daily, and it was a huge 2-story condo.

RG.

[Dick Milhous]

I have been reading this forum and I still have a lot to read, so I couldn't form an opinion on which beach would be best, but the main ones seem to be Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu, Mtwapa. Have you looked into Shanzu?

Staying in Nyali, walked almos the length of Nyali Beach yesterday and a lousy beach. Underwhelmed by location in general but in fairness I'm spending most my time laying indoor pipe.

I've heard lots of good things from locals about the white sands of Diani and several beaches north toward Malindi, but this trip has been my Mombasa cherry so no first hand knowledge on any other areas.

[Mombie75]

Hello, very interesting post. I have just booked tickets for Mombasa, 2 weeks between October and November. My first time!

I have been reading this forum and I still have a lot to read, so I couldn't form an opinion on which beach would be best, but the main ones seem to be Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu, Mtwapa. Have you looked into Shanzu?

Regarding the accommodations, how did you find them? Are you confident that they are girl-friendly?

I am looking on AirBnB but don't know how to approach the question regarding girls visiting my flat.

If anyone knows of hosts / flats in Mombasa, feel free to PM me. .What is your budget?

The best beach is Bamburi for relaxing and walking. It is also most central.

[Leblon]

Hello everyone,

I'm Superchuck, new to this forum but not to the gazelle hunt. I read the fucking forum in all its pages, really funny yeah, then I did research on my own but the years pass and situations change, that's why I allow myself to ask some not too obvious questions. I was in Lamu and Watamu many years ago and today I have the opportunity to return to my beloved Kenyan negrettes and I chose to stay for three months in Mombasa and precisely in Mtwapa. The choice is due to the fact that from what I understand Nyali is a little hunting territory of rich white tourists, no much movement in the streets and especially several night clubs that I do not like to attend. I look for females in the streets during the day, into the shops or markets or on the beach.

Even Bamburi does not inspire me, I visited it virtually with Google Street View and apart from the main road it seemed dispersed. Okay, I know, it doesn't mean anything, but that's my impression.

Mtwapa instead attracted me and also the reports I read in the forum pushed me to make this choice. But what makes me think is: how much has Mtwapa changed in terms of security compared to what was written in the posts 10-15 years ago? Curiosity therefore concerns the safety issue, what is the situation? At night I don't go to clubs and I don't get drunk but I still like to go out for one beer after having fun with a beautiful girl.

Anyway I found and made arrangements for two separate apartments fully furnished: one in Bamburi on the main road 400 meters from Drips for 2000 Kes per day. The other at Mtwapa around the Merry Villa for 1800 Kes per day.

It seems to me that Mtwapa can offers something more and that the area is more collected but I ask for fresh information to yours thanks.My opinion: Go to Mwtapa, you are in good and right place if that apartment is near Merry Villa. Mwtapa is safe, even at night. Normal cautiousness needed of course. Your biggest danger is traffic.

Most of the mongerers are in that Postal street near Merry Villa, so also girls are there. For daytime activities you should go to Big Tree maybe.

I think Bamburi as a boring place, and you don't find white people there. Bamburi girls (and many Mwtapa) you can find in daytime in Big Tree.

[SuperChuck]

Hello, very interesting post. I have just booked tickets for Mombasa, 2 weeks between October and November. My first time!

I have been reading this forum and I still have a lot to read, so I couldn't form an opinion on which beach would be best, but the main ones seem to be Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu, Mtwapa. Have you looked into Shanzu?

Regarding the accommodations, how did you find them? Are you confident that they are girl-friendly?

I am looking on AirBnB but don't know how to approach the question regarding girls visiting my flat.

If anyone knows of hosts / flats in Mombasa, feel free to PM me. .I searched google street view doing a virtual tour and when I saw some sign I took note and looked for the number on the internet and then sent a message with whatsapp, I did this for Drips' be&be in Bamburi but then I realized that in the evening there would be been too much noise for me. In any case I always speak clearly, if you take an apartment for a month in Kenya it's not to eat ugali.

[SuperChuck]

My opinion: Go to Mwtapa, you are in good and right place if that apartment is near Merry Villa. Mwtapa is safe, even at night. Normal cautiousness needed of course. Your biggest danger is traffic.

Most of the mongerers are in that Postal street near Merry Villa, so also girls are there. For daytime activities you should go to Big Tree maybe.

I think Bamburi as a boring place, and you don't find white people there. Bamburi girls (and many Mwtapa) you can find in daytime in Big Tree.Ok so my impression was good unless other members say otherwise. I read a lot about this big tree and I think I will go there during the day to enjoi the beach, the places full of professional sluts bore me and I prefer the girls I meet on the street (surely the same professional sluts I would meet in the evening but at least I have the illusion that they are very good girls student virgins who go to church on Sunday morning).

I have seen beautiful photos of shanzu beach but even there, always looking with google street view, the streets seem very desolate and isolated.

Mtwapa remains ahead of the choices.

[HappyFarang]

Yes, I was in Shanzu for 3 weeks, last May. I booked this AirBnB.

https://abnb.me/c7XlEPxOBCb

It was awesome. Maid service daily, and it was a huge 2-story condo.

RG.Thank you Radical Guy. I saved the AirBnB link, looks great! I get a little worried when I read about excellent security on the premises as I don't know how much they will like seeing a different girl everyday, not to mention the host and other people in the same building. Did you ask the host directly about bringing girls to the flat?

[HappyFarang]

Staying in Nyali, walked almos the length of Nyali Beach yesterday and a lousy beach. Underwhelmed by location in general but in fairness I'm spending most my time laying indoor pipe.
I've heard lots of good things from locals about the white sands of Diani and several beaches north toward Malindi, but this trip has been my Mombasa cherry so no first hand knowledge on any other areas.These locations are pretty far, I'll stay in Mombasa for my first trip. Going by exclusion, Bamburi and Nyali are the least liked, Mtwapa and Shanzu are the most liked beaches.


What is your budget?

The best beach is Bamburi for relaxing and walking. It is also most central.Some people seem to prefer Mtwapa, but I like the position of Bamburi. Closer to the airport too.

I would spend up to $50-60 per night although I see much cheaper flats on AirBnB.

[Mombie75]

These locations are pretty far, I'll stay in Mombasa for my first trip. Going by exclusion, Bamburi and Nyali are the least liked, Mtwapa and Shanzu are the most liked beaches.

Some people seem to prefer Mtwapa, but I like the position of Bamburi. Closer to the airport too.

I would spend up to $50-60 per night although I see much cheaper flats on AirBnB.I stay on Bamburi beach as security is good and I like to be on the beach during the day. I have used Airbnb's in the past but they are not for me now.

Also Bamburi beach is in the middle for going to Mtwapa, Nyali and Shanzu for when I go hunting.

[Radical Guy]

Thank you Radical Guy. I saved the AirBnB link, looks great! I get a little worried when I read about excellent security on the premises as I don't know how much they will like seeing a different girl everyday, not to mention the host and other people in the same building. Did you ask the host directly about bringing girls to the flat?No, I just brought my one 21-year-old spinner girlfriend. I didn't bring anyone else there, but there wasn't anyone around to complain had I wanted to switch them out.

RG.

[Belsie]

I do like a comfortable room, so considering booking Severin Sea Lodge, would prefer Sarova, but that is just too expensive. Think Severin is a good compromise, as I can easily get to Big Tree and Cheers. Anybody who has any information about Severin. Is it guest friendly etc. Any good reasons why I should not stay there? Any better alternatives?

Cheers.

G.

[Belsie]

I stay on Bamburi beach as security is good and I like to be on the beach during the day. I have used Airbnb's in the past but they are not for me now.

Also Bamburi beach is in the middle for going to Mtwapa, Nyali and Shanzu for when I go hunting.Sound good to me, assume you are using hotels now. Any suggestions?

Cheers.

G.

[Radical Guy]

I do like a comfortable room, so considering booking Severin Sea Lodge, would prefer Sarova, but that is just too expensive. Think Severin is a good compromise, as I can easily get to Big Tree and Cheers. Anybody who has any information about Severin. Is it guest friendly etc. Any good reasons why I should not stay there? Any better alternatives?

Cheers.

G.I prefer Sarova also. I got a great deal with "full board" last October, but I booked it 2 months in advance. I haven't tried Severin, but it seems to get great reviews.

RG.

[Carlos Primeros]

I stayed there several times over the last 20 years. I had one of the "Garden-Chalets" with no problem bringing in a girl -.

The Hotel itself is a bit outdated but a good deal for your money. I can recommend it.

Carlos Primeros.

[Mombie75]

Sound good to me, assume you are using hotels now. Any suggestions?

Cheers.

G.I use either sai rock apartments or Indiana beach hotel. Both as per usual in Kenya are dated but both on the beach, GF and secure. Sai rock was my goto but now has a mosque over the road crying out at all hours so switched to Indiana beach. Indiana has the massage outside it and a few kabandas for local food too like grilled sweet potato and sweetcorn.

[Belsie]

I prefer Sarova also. I got a great deal with "full board" last October, but I booked it 2 months in advance. I haven't tried Severin, but it seems to get great reviews.

RG.Thanks for your reply.

Just done a search for October and found a reasonably deal for Sarova, about 25% more than Severin which I think is OK. I assume that Sarova is guest friendly, what did you do for airport transfer, trips out to Big Tree etc. - any recomendations?

Cheers.

G.

[Leblon]

I stay on Bamburi beach as security is good and I like to be on the beach during the day. I have used Airbnb's in the past but they are not for me now.

Also Bamburi beach is in the middle for going to Mtwapa, Nyali and Shanzu for when I go hunting.Mombie, do you mean here Bamburi Beach hotel? I assume so. You are not talking about Bamburi beach generally?

I did not know that Bamburi Beach hotel is girl friendly, good to know.

There is often confusion about word Bamburi. There is big community called Bamburi, where there are no beach at all, you can look from google maps. And then there is Bamburi beach, also sometimes called Northern beach. I consider this whole beach which you can see as Bamburi beach, but some people call parts of the beach as other name, especially Pirate beach. North of the Bamburi beach is Sheraton beach (or Shanzy beach? South of it is Nyali beach. I think all of these are included in this term Northern beaches.

There are several hotels in the Bamburi beach which have name Bamburi included, confusing.

I made research of the hotels near Big Tree once, it is in my previous reports. Here are some names:

Big Tree, my favourite place. It is cheapest, but it is not for everybody, rooms are very simple, no luxury. Usually full booked.

Second favourite for me is Sheratton Beach Villagio, which is very near Big Tree. More convenient, like tv and aircon in some rooms, and breakfast. Book for two.

Azul Margarita Beach Resort, that is next to Big Tree. Book for two. Both Sheratton and Azul, you can try to negotiate the prize.

Sai Rock, if I remember right apartments were girl friendly, but hotel rooms not. You can ask.

Ziwa Beach resort, interesting rooms.

Indiana is very big hotel, they have both apartments for long time stay and normal rooms.

Kahama, that is not on beach. Bar can be noisy at night at cheaper rooms.

Note that I only go to cheap hotels, of the expensive ones I don't know. Ziwa Beach is maybe medium prices already.

Severin Sea Lodge, that is new to me.

Somebody wrote that he would prefer to stay in Bamburi (beach?) because it is more near to airport than Mwtapa.

Typically, mongerers from Mwtapa go to Big Tree (Bamburi Beach) every day in day time. And mongerers staying in Bamburi beach hotels go to Mwtapa every night because they go to Casourina.

Bamburi beach and Mwtapa are not so far each others, it just take taxi drive, or motobike drive. Or even matatu.

[Mombie75]

Mombie, do you mean here Bamburi Beach hotel? I assume so. You are not talking about Bamburi beach generally?

I did not know that Bamburi Beach hotel is girl friendly, good to know.

There is often confusion about word Bamburi. There is big community called Bamburi, where there are no beach at all, you can look from google maps. And then there is Bamburi beach, also sometimes called Northern beach. I consider this whole beach which you can see as Bamburi beach, but some people call parts of the beach as other name, especially Pirate beach. North of the Bamburi beach is Sheraton beach (or Shanzy beach? South of it is Nyali beach. I think all of these are included in this term Northern beaches.

There are several hotels in the Bamburi beach which have name Bamburi included, confusing.Once you get off Mombasa, Mombasa is an island which the airport is on, you head north.

Beach wise you would hit Nyali beach first which has Voyager, Mombasa hotel, Reef hotel, Bahari beach hotel on it.

Then further up you come to Pirates or Public beach as it is called which is actually on Bamburi beach.

This has Big Tree, Sherraton, Azul margarita, Sai rock, Sarova Whitesands, Travellers, Indiana and Bamburi beach hotel itself, Kenya bay.

Then further up you reach Shanzu beach which has a few hotels I am not familiar with these days.

Further north from here you hit Mtwapa.

Many locals live in Bamburi, but this is Bamburi the area inland, set back a mile and beyond from Bamburi beach.

I stay at Indiana beach hotel on bamburi beach not Bamburi beach hotel.

[HappyFarang]

Mombie, do you mean here Bamburi Beach hotel? I assume so. You are not talking about Bamburi beach generally?

I did not know that Bamburi Beach hotel is girl friendly, good to know.

There is often confusion about word Bamburi. There is big community called Bamburi, where there are no beach at all, you can look from google maps. And then there is Bamburi beach, also sometimes called Northern beach. I consider this whole beach which you can see as Bamburi beach, but some people call parts of the beach as other name, especially Pirate beach. North of the Bamburi beach is Sheraton beach (or Shanzy beach? South of it is Nyali beach. I think all of these are included in this term Northern beaches.

There are several hotels in the Bamburi beach which have name Bamburi included, confusing.

I made research of the hotels near Big Tree once, it is in my previous reports. Here are some names:

Big Tree, my favourite place. It is cheapest, but it is not for everybody, rooms are very simple, no luxury. Usually full booked.

Second favourite for me is Sheratton Beach Villagio, which is very near Big Tree. More convenient, like tv and aircon in some rooms, and breakfast. Book for two.

Azul Margarita Beach Resort, that is next to Big Tree. Book for two. Both Sheratton and Azul, you can try to negotiate the prize.

Sai Rock, if I remember right apartments were girl friendly, but hotel rooms not. You can ask.

Ziwa Beach resort, interesting rooms.

Indiana is very big hotel, they have both apartments for long time stay and normal rooms.

Kahama, that is not on beach. Bar can be noisy at night at cheaper rooms.

Note that I only go to cheap hotels, of the expensive ones I don't know. Ziwa Beach is maybe medium prices already.

Severin Sea Lodge, that is new to me.

Somebody wrote that he would prefer to stay in Bamburi (beach?) because it is more near to airport than Mwtapa.

Typically, mongerers from Mwtapa go to Big Tree (Bamburi Beach) every day in day time. And mongerers staying in Bamburi beach hotels go to Mwtapa every night because they go to Casourina.

Bamburi beach and Mwtapa are not so far each others, it just take taxi drive, or motobike drive. Or even matatu.I wish there was a thank you function in these forums as some people here really put good effort in delivering information.

I found out through your post that hotels also offer apartments, which sounds great. I may forget about AirBnB, with all the hassle, and focus on finding a few girl-friendly hotels for my stay.

Also thank you for clarifying about Bamburi beach. The map was showing somewhere else, not on the beach, and I was mistakenly thinking that that was Bamburi. My understanding now is that Bamburi is the beach where Bamburi Beach Hotel and Severin Sea Lodge are.

Do you know any good hotels / apartments in Mtwapa area?

[Radical Guy]

Thanks for your reply.

Just done a search for October and found a reasonably deal for Sarova, about 25% more than Severin which I think is OK. I assume that Sarova is guest friendly, what did you do for airport transfer, trips out to Big Tree etc. - any recomendations?

Cheers.

G.You can arrange airport transfer with Sarova in advance, and they'll be waiting for you when you arrive. As I recall, the Big Tree is just a short stroll on the beach away from the Sarova, or you can just use Uber or Bolt, which will pick you up at the main entrance. I had no issues at Sarova bringing my girlfriend. For meals, they just make sure that only two people are getting a meal. No one cares who the extra person is.

[HappyFarang]

Considering nightlife seems to be centered around Mtwapa area, I wanted to follow someone's advice here and get an apartment in Mtwapa. My reasoning is that I would rather remain local in the evening / night. I can travel to Bamburi during the day.

Any advice on Mtwapa apartments?

I found many apartments on Booking and the ones with most reviews are Merry Villa Hotel and Hyven's Apartments. Does anyone know if they are girl friendly? Of course I can ask them myself but if they already have a reputation that may be unnecessary.

Also I don't understand how can they be so cheap. Some are £30 or less per night.

[Mombie75]

Considering nightlife seems to be centered around Mtwapa area, I wanted to follow someone's advice here and get an apartment in Mtwapa. My reasoning is that I would rather remain local in the evening / night. I can travel to Bamburi during the day.

Any advice on Mtwapa apartments?

I found many apartments on Booking and the ones with most reviews are Merry Villa Hotel and Hyven's Apartments. Does anyone know if they are girl friendly? Of course I can ask them myself but if they already have a reputation that may be unnecessary.

Also I don't understand how can they be so cheap. Some are 30 or less per night.Yes, the pricing is about right. There is also that big hotel in Mtwapa, someone will post name I guess, near the petrol station, maybe worth exploring. I am a bit out the loop with nightlife these days. Casaurinha still gets busy at midnight though.

[Neddy69]

Considering nightlife seems to be centered around Mtwapa area, I wanted to follow someone's advice here and get an apartment in Mtwapa. My reasoning is that I would rather remain local in the evening / night. I can travel to Bamburi during the day.

Any advice on Mtwapa apartments?

I found many apartments on Booking and the ones with most reviews are Merry Villa Hotel and Hyven's Apartments. Does anyone know if they are girl friendly? Of course I can ask them myself but if they already have a reputation that may be unnecessary.

Also I don't understand how can they be so cheap. Some are 30 or less per night.There is no such a thing as a "guest unfriendly" place in Mtwapa. Mtwapa is known as Sin City in Kenya. It is an open air brothel. When you walk through the posta street you will be approached after dark for jiggi jiggi by the Malayas. Merry Villas and Luck Apartments is monger central. Everybody knows these joints. Watch out for noise. I'd never book in advance. Take a place. Book three nights and see how the noise levels are from churches, drinking dens and mosques. And move places as required. Go to the local beach at Copacabana on the mouth of Mtwapa River or take a matatu during the day to Bamburi beach. 30 £ is not cheap. That's average. Most hotels are booked by normal Kenyans. For them 4500 KES are a lot of money. In the holidays there's kenyan colleges with their yellow busses on holiday or teachers conventions. Always have prices in KES quoted. Never in foreign currency. There's cheap guest houses like Hippo which probably go for 2000 KES. But security problems.

There's normal people living in Mtwapa. Middle class. Nightlife is a shadow of it's former self. There's lot of Kenyan style drinking dens and nowadays theres a lot of upmarket so called sports bars. No African vibes there any more. Sigh. This is not walking street in Pattaya. Expect overpriced accommodation with bad standards. Not Thai standards. TIA. This is Africa. Lock up all your valuables and give everything which wears an uniform (Mtwapas finest) a wide berth. Have fun.

Neddy.

[HappyFarang]

Yes, the pricing is about right. There is also that big hotel in Mtwapa, someone will post name I guess, near the petrol station, maybe worth exploring. I am a bit out the loop with nightlife these days. Casaurinha still gets busy at midnight though.Merry Villa looks nice. I texted Merry Villa and a few other places asking about guest policy but the wording is difficult. I don't want to say "can I have a different girl stay every other night". Awaiting response.

There's apartments with free cancellation on Booking, seems easy enough. .

[HappyFarang]

There is no such a thing as a "guest unfriendly" place in Mtwapa. Mtwapa is known as Sin City in Kenya. It is an open air brothel. When you walk through the posta street you will be approached after dark for jiggi jiggi by the Malayas. Merry Villas and Luck Apartments is monger central. Everybody knows these joints. Watch out for noise. I'd never book in advance. Take a place. Book three nights and see how the noise levels are from churches, drinking dens and mosques. And move places as required. Go to the local beach at Copacabana on the mouth of Mtwapa River or take a matatu during the day to Bamburi beach. 30 is not cheap. That's average. Most hotels are booked by normal Kenyans. For them 4500 KES are a lot of money. In the holidays there's kenyan colleges with their yellow busses on holiday or teachers conventions. Always have prices in KES quoted. Never in foreign currency. There's cheap guest houses like Hippo which probably go for 2000 KES. But security problems.

There's normal people living in Mtwapa. Middle class. Nightlife is a shadow of it's former self. There's lot of Kenyan style drinking dens and nowadays theres a lot of upmarket so called sports bars. No African vibes there any more. Sigh. This is not walking street in Pattaya. Expect overpriced accommodation with bad standards. Not Thai standards. TIA. This is Africa. Lock up all your valuables and give everything which wears an uniform (Mtwapas finest) a wide berth. Have fun.

Neddy.Thanks Neddy! Great info.

What you say about Mtwapa being a shadow of what it used to be made me a little sad. :'D.

I was going to book the whole stay so I must thank you. I won't do that and maybe book the first 3 nights as you suggested.

Is there the risk that everything will be fully booked when I get there in October-November? I was getting a little anxious because of this prospect.

If I can just look for apartments once I get there and book directly I'd feel much better.

Who are the Malayas? I googled it and could only find references to Malaysia.

[SceticoBlu]

https://en.bab.la/dictionary/swahili-english/malaya

[SceticoBlu]

Malaya is a hard and offensive word for the ears of Kenyan girls. They are ready to be your bibi, mama or bodyguard but not a malaya.

[Neddy69]

Thanks Neddy! Great info.

What you say about Mtwapa being a shadow of what it used to be made me a little sad. :'D.

I was going to book the whole stay so I must thank you. I won't do that and maybe book the first 3 nights as you suggested.

Is there the risk that everything will be fully booked when I get there in October-November? I was getting a little anxious because of this prospect.

If I can just look for apartments once I get there and book directly I'd feel much better.

Who are the Malayas? I googled it and could only find references to Malaysia.Fully booked? Mtwapa has so much accommodation. Certain places maybe during Christmas / New Year. And mostly on the beach. I doubt it. Generally speaking high season runs November till March. Mtwapa has a huge range of accommodations. I've never seen it fully booked. Malaya is the expression for hooker. Never say that to a girl. Nobody wants to be addressed as hooker. LOL. There is none. Only sweet lasses in need of funding. You never pay for "sex" you pay for "transport". It's hypocrisy of course. But these are the rules. There's a lot of competition of the girls and if they don't like each other. They usually start a smear campaign denouncing their colleagues (competition) as hooker aka Malaya. Or even more hilarious. HIV positive.

Neddy.

[DzikaBomba]

Considering nightlife seems to be centered around Mtwapa area, I wanted to follow someone's advice here and get an apartment in Mtwapa. My reasoning is that I would rather remain local in the evening / night. I can travel to Bamburi during the day.

Any advice on Mtwapa apartments?

I found many apartments on Booking and the ones with most reviews are Merry Villa Hotel and Hyven's Apartments. Does anyone know if they are girl friendly? Of course I can ask them myself but if they already have a reputation that may be unnecessary.

Also I don't understand how can they be so cheap. Some are 30 or less per night.Prestige in Mtwapa is ok pricewise. But Standard is rather low. But you can bring Girls without Problem. The Rooms are big, but run down. Place is secured, so no problem. You even have two pools on the premises.

When you book in direct contact with the Hotel you will get an big Apartment Room for 2500 KES. PM me for the Number when you are interested.

I by myself will stay in Mtwapa 28.10-11.11. 2023 in an new Apartment from someone who normally lives there, but will not be there during this time. He charges me 16 k per week, so this is an nice deal for an new apartment. But energy comes on top of that, but still good.

[Leblon]

Merry Villa looks nice. I texted Merry Villa and a few other places asking about guest policy but the wording is difficult. I don't want to say "can I have a different girl stay every other night". Awaiting response.

There's apartments with free cancellation on Booking, seems easy enough. .What I use to be certain that I can get different girls every night:

"What is your visitor policy ? I have a girl friend in town, can she come to sleept with me ? Do I have to pay extra or should I book for two ?"
" Actually I have several girlfriends in your town, so it is not only one girl who will come to visit me. Other nights other girlfriend comes to sleep with me. Is that a problem?

In one Nairobi hotel there was difference girl visiting and girl sleeping, it was OK for visit before midnight, but for sleep I had to pay for two.

In Bamburi beach, some hotels I had to book room for two person, then girl coming for night was not a problem. Check that one before you book, if booked only one person then maybe you need to pay extra for each girl.

Threesome is often problem, they don't allow two girls because they may get problems with police? Actually at some point I did not find any hotel which would have allowed two girls, for that you need to rent apartment. I don't know how it is nowadays.

[Buck011]

Merry Villa looks nice. I texted Merry Villa and a few other places asking about guest policy but the wording is difficult. I don't want to say "can I have a different girl stay every other night". Awaiting response.

There's apartments with free cancellation on Booking, seems easy enough. .Check out Mona Lisa hotel very central location just short walk from Casaurinha. Didn't have any issues bringing back girls but I discussed that topic in advance before booking. Very clean place. Never had anything missing from safe box (unlike in Cowrie shell hotel).

I paid something like 3000 shilling a night if I remember well. This was in February 2020 so maybe things changed.

Regarding apartments only booked once an apartment in Mtwapa and it was really bad dirty despite the high ratings it got on booking.com so better take a look yourself first.

[HappyFarang]

Prestige in Mtwapa is ok pricewise. But Standard is rather low. But you can bring Girls without Problem. The Rooms are big, but run down. Place is secured, so no problem. You even have two pools on the premises.

When you book in direct contact with the Hotel you will get an big Apartment Room for 2500 KES. PM me for the Number when you are interested.

I by myself will stay in Mtwapa 28.10-11.11. 2023 in an new Apartment from someone who normally lives there, but will not be there during this time. He charges me 16 k per week, so this is an nice deal for an new apartment. But energy comes on top of that, but still good.Thanks, good to know! I fount a "Mtwapa Prestige Leisure Hotel & Conference Limited" on Google Maps, website prestigeleisurehotel.com, in Daisha Road. Is this the right place? I could book directly when I arrive in Mombasa.

I booked 3 nights for an apartment on Booking that looked okay, only 3 nights in case it's bad.

[HappyFarang]

What I use to be certain that I can get different girls every night:

"What is your visitor policy ? I have a girl friend in town, can she come to sleept with me ? Do I have to pay extra or should I book for two ?"
" Actually I have several girlfriends in your town, so it is not only one girl who will come to visit me. Other nights other girlfriend comes to sleep with me. Is that a problem?

In one Nairobi hotel there was difference girl visiting and girl sleeping, it was OK for visit before midnight, but for sleep I had to pay for two.

In Bamburi beach, some hotels I had to book room for two person, then girl coming for night was not a problem. Check that one before you book, if booked only one person then maybe you need to pay extra for each girl.

Threesome is often problem, they don't allow two girls because they may get problems with police? Actually at some point I did not find any hotel which would have allowed two girls, for that you need to rent apartment. I don't know how it is nowadays.It sounds like I just have to book for two. I was in fact going to book for two every single time, the price difference is negligible. I'll save your lines, they are perfect.

[HappyFarang]

Check out Mona Lisa hotel very central location just short walk from Casaurinha. Didn't have any issues bringing back girls but I discussed that topic in advance before booking. Very clean place. Never had anything missing from safe box (unlike in Cowrie shell hotel).

I paid something like 3000 shilling a night if I remember well. This was in February 2020 so maybe things changed.

Regarding apartments only booked once an apartment in Mtwapa and it was really bad dirty despite the high ratings it got on booking.com so better take a look yourself first.Great I added it to my list. The Monalisa Hotel on La Marina Road. I will try the hotel experience, I may like it better than apartment. Doesn't look they have a website, only phone number.

[Reiner Otto]

Arrived in Mombasa on 05-Sept. Although tired from long flight (s), I met my first contact from tinder. Lot of girls active on tinder, dunni yet, how serious.

About 21:00 local time, my very first visit to Casaurina: Completely empty, besides the guys at the entry.

Question: "Big Tree" mentioned here quite often. Is this the "Big Tree Beach Hotel" on goggle? Want to check out.

[Mombie75]

Arrived in Mombasa on 05-Sept. Although tired from long flight (s), I met my first contact from tinder. Lot of girls active on tinder, dunni yet, how serious.

About 21:00 local time, my very first visit to Casaurina: Completely empty, besides the guys at the entry.

Question: "Big Tree" mentioned here quite often. Is this the "Big Tree Beach Hotel" on goggle? Want to check out.Only go to Casaurina at midnight and after.

Big Tree as in The New Big Tree Hotel. Bora Bora stage for Matatu, Bodas etc. Big Tree is hit and miss during the day, go after 1 pm, the Foam party can be good on a Friday from 9 pm.

[Reiner Otto]

Only go to Casaurina at midnight and after.
Thank you, for clarification. Actually, it looks like Tinder is the way to go, easy to find a service provider.

But this might be because of lack of customers, right now. I only see a few foreign tourists here at the beach in Bamburi.

[Mombie75]

Thank you, for clarification. Actually, it looks like Tinder is the way to go, easy to find a service provider.

But this might be because of lack of customers, right now. I only see a few foreign tourists here at the beach in Bamburi.Yes. The busy days of tourism are long gone except for easter, Christmas etc.

Safari inn has plenty women on Tuesday for live band and Friday or Saturday, can remember which of those nights it does also.

[Reiner Otto]

can remember which of those nights it does also.Friday night Was there yesterday, quite busy and good talent showing up.

Thank you once again for your hint.

[Mombie75]

Friday night Was there yesterday, quite busy and good talent showing up.

Thank you once again for your hint.Yes. It is Tuesday and Friday. Usually the girls go to Casarurina after, around midnight.

[DzikaBomba]

Thanks, good to know! I fount a "Mtwapa Prestige Leisure Hotel & Conference Limited" on Google Maps, website prestigeleisurehotel.com, in Daisha Road. Is this the right place? I could book directly when I arrive in Mombasa.

I booked 3 nights for an apartment on Booking that looked okay, only 3 nights in case it's bad.Yes, that's it.

[SuperChuck]

Forgive me if I ask a perhaps comical question but I would like to take a dildo with me on the next trip to use with girls but I readed somewhere that at the airport the police check bags for X-rays and are very careful about these objects. There is a risk of being stopped with bad consequences. Is all this true? Are there any tricks to prevent the dildo from being recognized or is it better to leave it alone?

[Dick Milhous]

Forgive me if I ask a perhaps comical question but I would like to take a dildo with me on the next trip to use with girls but I readed somewhere that at the airport the police check bags for X-rays and are very careful about these objects. There is a risk of being stopped with bad consequences. Is all this true? Are there any tricks to prevent the dildo from being recognized or is it better to leave it alone?I took three vibrator dildos into Nairobi my 2nd visit and had no problems. I took none with me on my one visit to Mombasa, but doubt anyone will care you have one in your checked luggage.

[Mombie75]

Forgive me if I ask a perhaps comical question but I would like to take a dildo with me on the next trip to use with girls but I readed somewhere that at the airport the police check bags for X-rays and are very careful about these objects. There is a risk of being stopped with bad consequences. Is all this true? Are there any tricks to prevent the dildo from being recognized or is it better to leave it alone?Your carry on luggage is x-rayed when you exit the airport but your carry on luggage is not. You would have to be very unlucky and have your bag checked by customs as you leave. I am sure many people carry them in. Buy a cucumber in Naivas if you are worried.

[Reiner Otto]

Does anybody have a recommendation regarding an agency to help in rental of apartment for 3 month?

In Bamburi would be best for me.

Or a link to a "local" web site would be great.

[Mombie75]

Does anybody have a recommendation regarding an agency to help in rental of apartment for 3 month?

In Bamburi would be best for me.

Or a link to a "local" web site would be great.If you wander about the area you want to be and ask the askaris at the gates. They will give you the office number for the landlords.

Does Naivas in Bamburi not have a notice board with them on?

[Reiner Otto]

Does Naivas in Bamburi not have a notice board with them on?Will check, thank you. I also found a group on FB, Airbnb Mombasa Kenya, having some ads.

[SuperChuck]

Your carry on luggage is x-rayed when you exit the airport but your carry on luggage is not. You would have to be very unlucky and have your bag checked by customs as you leave. I am sure many people carry them in. Buy a cucumber in Naivas if you are worried.You wrote: Your carry on luggage is x-rayed when you exit the airport but your carry on luggage is not.

And I don't understand, sorry.

[Mombie75]

You wrote: Your carry on luggage is x-rayed when you exit the airport but your carry on luggage is not.

And I don't understand, sorry.If you fly into Nairobi your carry on luggage is x-rayed as you exit the airport just by the luggage carousel. Your checked-in luggage is not you just pass with that.

[Kaappo22]

Forgive me if I ask a perhaps comical question but I would like to take a dildo with me on the next trip to use with girls but I readed somewhere that at the airport the police check bags for X-rays and are very careful about these objects. There is a risk of being stopped with bad consequences. Is all this true? Are there any tricks to prevent the dildo from being recognized or is it better to leave it alone?I've never brought any dildos with me. However, as I've succesfully purchased dildos and all kind of sex toys from Jumia while in Kenya, I doubt there's much interest for such things by the police as selling such products seems perfectly legal.

[Zimzam]

Does anybody have a recommendation regarding an agency to help in rental of apartment for 3 month?

In Bamburi would be best for me.

Or a link to a "local" web site would be great.If you want to find apartments for rent you can go to jiji. Co. Ke then select Property, then Houses for rent, then Mombasa, Bamburi.

[Zimzam]

There is also the "Short Let Property" option.

[Zimzam]

Actually, I just saw that there are plenty sex toys available at JiJi.

[Leblon]

There is new place in Mwtapa which people call as Screenshot. I don't know anything about that place but I have heard it is very popular right now, as new places are in beginning. Musungus go there, which means girls go there also. So if somebody is travelling to Mombasa you can add that to your list.

In Diani there has been already long time place called Full Moon. I don't remember that is ever mentioned here in Forum. So you can go to three places there, Manyatta, Tandoori, Full Moon. Ask from motobike taxidrivers which is right place to go in each evening and what time, they know everything in Diani.

[Pcdilwj]

Prestige leisure apartments 3000 no breakfast regular room 2500 breakfast included very nice pool girl friendly no charge for guest just make sure she has her ID in person or on her phone prime comfort hotel 3000 apartments breakfast included small pool very girl friendly no charge for guest they were supposed to open a new wing down the street maybe they raise the prices if you stay in the new wing if its new everything should work LOL. My first trip stay at merry villa in 2020 great location its more expensive than the previous 2 hotels don t recall the prices but if you had a apartments you can bring a girl in with no extra charge no breakfast either if you had a single room breakfast would be included if you had a single room they would charge a guest fee I think it was 500 if you have a double room no guest fee. On my last trip in March 2023 I stay in a Airbnb just across the street from eagles nest I was charge 3000 per night if I stay longer she would have given me a discount I think her monthly rate was 60000 . Had no air con I only lasted 4 days had to get a place with air con. First time Visitors Mtwapa is the place to stay after you hit the ground you can look around and see what works for the best for you.

[Leblon]

Prestige leisure apartments 3000 no breakfast regular room 2500 breakfast included very nice pool girl friendly no charge for guest just make sure she has her ID in person or on her phone prime comfort hotel 3000 apartments breakfast included small pool very girl friendly no charge for guest they were supposed to open a new wing down the street maybe they raise the prices if you stay in the new wing if its new everything should work LOL. My first trip stay at merry villa in 2020 great location its more expensive than the previous 2 hotels don t recall the prices but if you had a apartments you can bring a girl in with no extra charge no breakfast either if you had a single room breakfast would be included if you had a single room they would charge a guest fee I think it was 500 if you have a double room no guest fee. On my last trip in March 2023 I stay in a Airbnb just across the street from eagles nest I was charge 3000 per night if I stay longer she would have given me a discount I think her monthly rate was 60000 . Had no air con I only lasted 4 days had to get a place with air con. First time Visitors Mtwapa is the place to stay after you hit the ground you can look around and see what works for the best for you.Good information, Pcdilwj.

I would just like to comment about this first time visitor. Mwtapa is good place for first timer if he has already been in Africa or at least in developing countries. However, if this is first time outside Europe or USA, I recommend to take one of the hotels from Bamburi beach, and do visits to Mwtapa from there. Mwtapa has crazy traffic, it is hot and noisy and dusty. I remember one commentator who was shocked and bitter that he was recommended Mwtapa, town was too much for him.

In beach, climate is cooler, it is more peaceful and hotels are more developed. More expensive also. From Mwtapa it takes some effort and time to go beach.

[Mombie75]

Pc, thanks, great info on hotels in Mtwapa.

I agree with Leblon.

Mtwapa is not for the average traveler or monger who does not know Africa. Far better off down Bamburi beach or Nyali. I would stay in Mtwapa myself if it was not a pain to travel down to Bamburi beach or City mall. I just need some fresh air and a bit of space away from the dusty hussle and bussle of Mtwapa. On top of that after 20 yrs of coming to Mombasa I get such good prices on Bamburi beach I just end up having a few trips up to Mtwapa month.

[Reiner Otto]

Not being a nightowl, to visit the clubs mentioned, I had very good expirience using Tinder. First meeting usully in a cafe or other public space.

My favourite restaurant in Bamburi beach was CharChoma, because of very good barbecue, good location and reasonable prices. Few freelancers there to be found in the evening.

Safari-Inn also had good talent on Tuesdays and Fridays evenings; also good place to meet some expats.

BigTree beach bar also a reasonable place to find a girl, afternoon or early evening.

Had my girl with me on safari, to Tsavo-East and West. West was very good, probably will go there again. Recommended lodge: saltlick. Very good location, rooms and meals. Next time I will do booking directly with them, they offer very good package for 2 nights, incl. Train and transfer and entrance fee. Definitely cheaper than via agency. Check their website saltlick safari lodge DOT com.

[Reiner Otto]

Cowrieshells appartments in Bamburi Beach girl friendly.

[TiVida]

Prestige Leisure Apartments have been mentioned as GF but google only throws up Prestige Leisure Hotel- is this the same place? Also would appreciate a recommendation for a GF Airbnb, its hard to tell from listings as some places have staff living in compounds and may not be GF and I don't want to find that out after booking and paying for several nights. I.

[Rat Traveler]

Long time lurker, first time poster here. After reading many posts on the Mombasa page, I decided that this was the best place for me to visit as I do like the darker ladies. This forum has been helpful to get an idea of things to beware of, but in all truthfulness I've been to a few other countries known for girls and I've seen my share of bullshit. But this page has taught me that the police are more of a concern than the girl in this location.

When I made my plans, older posts led me to believe that Big Tree was where I want to stay, so I immediately reserved a room for my entire three week stay. 28 euros per night to stay on the beach seems better than other places in this beach area. I started the process of talking to girls on dating sites. It's obvious that some are working girls, and when I tell them where I'm staying they all comment that the rooms and facilities there suck. Most insist I should have gone the Airbnb route. Airbnb shows some great apartments in south mtwapa which would be nice because ID like to visit the clubs there.

I'm still convinced though that Big Tree was a good choice. I guess my only concern would be that I want to visit the mtwapa clubs during the night time. If I decide to make mtwapa a nightly visit and use an app like Uber to get a motortaxi, is it reasonable to assume that I won't have any issues in the night time coming back and forth at late hours?

[Neddy69]

Long time lurker, first time poster here. After reading many posts on the Mombasa page, I decided that this was the best place for me to visit as I do like the darker ladies. This forum has been helpful to get an idea of things to beware of, but in all truthfulness I've been to a few other countries known for girls and I've seen my share of bullshit. But this page has taught me that the police are more of a concern than the girl in this location.

When I made my plans, older posts led me to believe that Big Tree was where I want to stay, so I immediately reserved a room for my entire three week stay. 28 euros per night to stay on the beach seems better than other places in this beach area. I started the process of talking to girls on dating sites. It's obvious that some are working girls, and when I tell them where I'm staying they all comment that the rooms and facilities there suck. Most insist I should have gone the Airbnb route. Airbnb shows some great apartments in south mtwapa which would be nice because ID like to visit the clubs there.

I'm still convinced though that Big Tree was a good choice. I guess my only concern would be that I want to visit the mtwapa clubs during the night time. If I decide to make mtwapa a nightly visit and use an app like Uber to get a motortaxi, is it reasonable to assume that I won't have any issues in the night time coming back and forth at late hours?Don't underestimate the ladies. Many will steal given the chance. As for late night travel from Mtwapa to Bamburi there's the famous police check point on Mtwapa bridge where police will shake you down for a bribe. Take at least a copy of your passport. Although the interior secretary said that he wants to get rid of all police checkpoints. Make sure the girl carries an ID. Big Tree is for sure the cheapest place on North coast right on the sea. The rooms are renovated but basic. There's is always some girls for take out. In the evening. Be aware that there's a number of bad apples on North coast. They're working together with Bamburis finest. The police is just across the road from Cheers. They will try to nail you for some imaginative offences. Sex with minors is popular. Use of Sex Toys or taking nasty videos is no good idea. They fall under the sexual offences law. Fake or no IDs are very common. Drink spiking also goes on. Always take your beer with you to the loo. Smoking banghi is illegal.

I think that covered most.

Mwalimu.

[HappyFarang]

Long time lurker, first time poster here. After reading many posts on the Mombasa page, I decided that this was the best place for me to visit as I do like the darker ladies. This forum has been helpful to get an idea of things to beware of, but in all truthfulness I've been to a few other countries known for girls and I've seen my share of bullshit. But this page has taught me that the police are more of a concern than the girl in this location.

When I made my plans, older posts led me to believe that Big Tree was where I want to stay, so I immediately reserved a room for my entire three week stay. 28 euros per night to stay on the beach seems better than other places in this beach area. I started the process of talking to girls on dating sites. It's obvious that some are working girls, and when I tell them where I'm staying they all comment that the rooms and facilities there suck. Most insist I should have gone the Airbnb route. Airbnb shows some great apartments in south mtwapa which would be nice because ID like to visit the clubs there.

I'm still convinced though that Big Tree was a good choice. I guess my only concern would be that I want to visit the mtwapa clubs during the night time. If I decide to make mtwapa a nightly visit and use an app like Uber to get a motortaxi, is it reasonable to assume that I won't have any issues in the night time coming back and forth at late hours?Strange, I'm in your same condition but reading this forum gave me the opposite impression: stay in Mtwapa and visit Bamburi during the day. Can't you cancel?

[Mombie75]

Long time lurker, first time poster here. After reading many posts on the Mombasa page, I decided that this was the best place for me to visit as I do like the darker ladies. This forum has been helpful to get an idea of things to beware of, but in all truthfulness I've been to a few other countries known for girls and I've seen my share of bullshit. But this page has taught me that the police are more of a concern than the girl in this location.

When I made my plans, older posts led me to believe that Big Tree was where I want to stay, so I immediately reserved a room for my entire three week stay. 28 euros per night to stay on the beach seems better than other places in this beach area. I started the process of talking to girls on dating sites. It's obvious that some are working girls, and when I tell them where I'm staying they all comment that the rooms and facilities there suck. Most insist I should have gone the Airbnb route. Airbnb shows some great apartments in south mtwapa which would be nice because ID like to visit the clubs there.

I'm still convinced though that Big Tree was a good choice. I guess my only concern would be that I want to visit the mtwapa clubs during the night time. If I decide to make mtwapa a nightly visit and use an app like Uber to get a motortaxi, is it reasonable to assume that I won't have any issues in the night time coming back and forth at late hours?I use bolt instead of uber. Use a car and not a bike, bikes are just too dangerous. Big Tree to Mtwapa in a bolt will only be a few euros.

Big Tree is ok. The rooms are basic but as you say you are on the beach. I stay on the beach myself when in Mombasa.

Police can not really bother unless you do something stupid. Even if your upset with a girl, just pay her and get rid of her, it is not worth any hassle for a few thousand shillings. Carry your ID its a Police favourite for a little shake down attempt if you do not have it.

[Leblon]

Long time lurker, first time poster here. After reading many posts on the Mombasa page, I decided that this was the best place for me to visit as I do like the darker ladies. This forum has been helpful to get an idea of things to beware of, but in all truthfulness I've been to a few other countries known for girls and I've seen my share of bullshit. But this page has taught me that the police are more of a concern than the girl in this location.

When I made my plans, older posts led me to believe that Big Tree was where I want to stay, so I immediately reserved a room for my entire three week stay. 28 euros per night to stay on the beach seems better than other places in this beach area. I started the process of talking to girls on dating sites. It's obvious that some are working girls, and when I tell them where I'm staying they all comment that the rooms and facilities there suck. Most insist I should have gone the Airbnb route. Airbnb shows some great apartments in south mtwapa which would be nice because ID like to visit the clubs there.

I'm still convinced though that Big Tree was a good choice. I guess my only concern would be that I want to visit the mtwapa clubs during the night time. If I decide to make mtwapa a nightly visit and use an app like Uber to get a motortaxi, is it reasonable to assume that I won't have any issues in the night time coming back and forth at late hours?If I am in Big Tree, I go to Casourina in Mwtapa almost every night. I usually walked to Cheers and took taxi there. In front of Casourina there are always taxis ready to take you back to the Big Tree, they are fighting about you. So no worry. Big Tree has a regural taxi driver, Peter, not working for Big Tree but he is there in daytime and evening waiting for customers. Not at late night. You can make deal with him to take you there and back, or somewhere else. He knows all the places, and he is big guy, he can be considered as security guy also. Also taxi drivers in the Cheers, in walking distance, you can hire them to take you there and come to pick you, or even wait for you whole evening. Take their numbers. Just. If they say they are coming, they are on a way. That is not necessarily true, they may be far far away, they just don't want to lose your ride. Don't believe, take another taxi or motobike.

Uber is cheaper but I don't use myself. Motobike is cheaper, and faster, and you can get them everywhere immediately. I use them a lot, but I am always scared for my life in motobike, because of traffic.

[Albert9989]

If I am in Big Tree, I go to Casourina in Mwtapa almost every night. I usually walked to Cheers and took taxi there. In front of Casourina there are always taxis ready to take you back to the Big Tree, they are fighting about you. So no worry. Big Tree has a regural taxi driver, Peter, not working for Big Tree but he is there in daytime and evening waiting for customers. Not at late night. You can make deal with him to take you there and back, or somewhere else. He knows all the places, and he is big guy, he can be considered as security guy also. Also taxi drivers in the Cheers, in walking distance, you can hire them to take you there and come to pick you, or even wait for you whole evening. Take their numbers. Just. If they say they are coming, they are on a way. That is not necessarily true, they may be far far away, they just don't want to lose your ride. Don't believe, take another taxi or motobike.

Uber is cheaper but I don't use myself. Motobike is cheaper, and faster, and you can get them everywhere immediately. I use them a lot, but I am always scared for my life in motobike, because of traffic.In Kenya, Nairobi or Mombasa I use BOLT application similar to Uber and very efficient, even from Big Tree or Cheers I always got taxi quickly and for everywhere.

I just had an issue in Nairobi with the last one I took from Westland to Airport, the price displayed in the app was 1700 Ksh but when we arrived at the airport the driver asked me 1900 in cash!

Looks like a scam as with this app I always pay with the app and on a credit card I sue for that. Once agreed at start, the price is automatically taken from your card, nothing to do, just say bye to the driver, no prob at all except for this one.

After a long discussion on the parking of airport, I took all cash I had in my pocket, 1600 and gave it to him. The app took also the normal price which was 1700.

But I contacted the BOLT support immediately via the app and after 24 hrs they refund me the 1700 saying that they will deal with this driver immediately.

Another scaring issue is that they drive with tank empty or quite. One stopped 200 meters before destination because of no more fuel!!

And the one for airport had the empty tank warning lighting all the time, but he stopped at a fuel station and ask for 1. 5 liter of fuel! And we arrived at the airport!

Other issue is that BOLT taxis don't have access to parking like the one of train station, Mombasa or Nairobi, so you can find them waiting outside the parking, bit s cary as usually we arrive at light.

But I had my local girl friend with me for the train helping a lot in these situation.

[Albert9989]

I forgot to say that my girl in Mombasa has the car license, so she can now drive a car for you. You rent the car or she will rent for you and then she will drive everywhere you want.

And she will do far more, as she knows a lot of girls there she can find the girls of your taste, one or two or more when you want, organize health tests, and many other things like cooking, cleaning, etc.

No sex I think, but she is of a very good company.

And she is beautiful even if a bit strong body for me, I prefer small ones. But beautiful body.

So if you want to hire her pm me and I can ask her about your needs or give her contact directly if she agree.

[Bajuni]

From Big Tree to Mtwapa and back, you have the local matatu plying the short route 24/7.

For little money.

Just be aware of pick pockets.

[Rat Traveler]

I forgot to say that my girl in Mombasa has the car license, so she can now drive a car for you. You rent the car or she will rent for you and then she will drive everywhere you want.

And she will do far more, as she knows a lot of girls there she can find the girls of your taste, one or two or more when you want, organize health tests, and many other things like cooking, cleaning, etc.

No sex I think, but she is of a very good company.

And she is beautiful even if a bit strong body for me, I prefer small ones. But beautiful body.

So if you want to hire her pm me and I can ask her about your needs or give her contact directly if she agree.That would be cool, just in case I get there and feel like I'm not finding enough to do. As you can probably tell by my initial post, transportation is one of my main concerns and it would be nice to have a reliable connection. I believe my newbie status on this forum prevents me from sending PMs at this time, however I would be grateful if you were able to PM me instead.

[Rat Traveler]

Strange, I'm in your same condition but reading this forum gave me the opposite impression: stay in Mtwapa and visit Bamburi during the day. Can't you cancel?I would be able to cancel as they didn't require any deposit. In fact, I was a bit shocked that I was able to make a reservation with almost no information provided other than my name. I'm still on the fence about Big Tree though, the only complaint I've heard about it is that the rooms are only okay. My preference is good location and being close to the action. However, it would suck if it was nonstop noise until 4 am bleeding into my room. I'm only a month away from my trip also, so at this point in leaning towards Big Tree.

[Zimzam]

Nowadays if you order a taxi with both Uber or Bolt it is very rare that you can get the ride for the price indicated on the app.

You will see a list of prices all of them higher than the indicated price.

Then the driver will call you and tell you the price he wants, so you can negotiate.

Especially in the night they will ask high prices.

There is not much left from the original idea of both Uber and Bolt that you will have a hassle-free taxi for a fixed price.

Now the drivers are also giving the recent hike in fuel prices as their reason.

That said the prices for a taxi ride are still low, compared to western countries. Especially the price for a taxi ride from the airport to Mtwapa is still a lot lower, compared to the pre Uber time, when you had to negotiate a lot with the crowd of taxi drivers waiting at the exit gate.

[Neddy69]

From Big Tree to Mtwapa and back, you have the local matatu plying the short route 24/7.

For little money.

Just be aware of pick pockets.Are you nuts? Taking a Matatu late night? Never. Matatus have been robbed by passengers. Late night I only take a Bolt. If I move at all. During the day I take matatus frequently. Its fun. Bongo music blaring. Hilarious. I even go to Mombasa old town. The trick is only weekends. Saturday is a particular easy day. On weekdays I go to Caffesserie and Big Trees.

[HappyFarang]

The police is just across the road from Cheers. They will try to nail you for some imaginative offences. Sex with minors is popular.
Wow this is extremely concerning. So stay away from the bridge after a certain hour of the day? And always check the girl's ID?

[Mombie75]

I would be able to cancel as they didn't require any deposit. In fact, I was a bit shocked that I was able to make a reservation with almost no information provided other than my name. I'm still on the fence about Big Tree though, the only complaint I've heard about it is that the rooms are only okay. My preference is good location and being close to the action. However, it would suck if it was nonstop noise until 4 am bleeding into my room. I'm only a month away from my trip also, so at this point in leaning towards Big Tree.What is your budget per night?

[Albert9989]

Nowadays if you order a taxi with both Uber or Bolt it is very rare that you can get the ride for the price indicated on the app.

You will see a list of prices all of them higher than the indicated price.

Then the driver will call you and tell you the price he wants, so you can negotiate.

Especially in the night they will ask high prices.

There is not much left from the original idea of both Uber and Bolt that you will have a hassle-free taxi for a fixed price.

Now the drivers are also giving the recent hike in fuel prices as their reason.

That said the prices for a taxi ride are still low, compared to western countries. Especially the price for a taxi ride from the airport to Mtwapa is still a lot lower, compared to the pre Uber time, when you had to negotiate a lot with the crowd of taxi drivers waiting at the exit gate.Ahhh, I never had to deal with many different prices. Last year was in Mombasa and Nairobi, and this year, 1st week of September was in Nairobi. When you call for a car, you see the prices of different options, small car, medium, bike etc.

You make a choice, usually I take the first one, small car, and if the driver agree you see it coming, taking you, and driving you to the destination, once arrived you just leave the car saying bye bye, that's all, the cost is already paid through the app.

No bargain or discussion.

Except the one I had at the airport, but was the only one, and refunded by BOLT immediately, at the end I paid 1600 Ksh by cash to the driver but the initial price in the app was 1700.

And yes, these costs are really low, I attach the list of some moves I did with Bolt in Westland area. Prices can vary a lot for the same distance or destination, but they stay low, all these where about 10 minutes around my stay. And during day or not late, I agree.

[John Auro]

I would be able to cancel as they didn't require any deposit. In fact, I was a bit shocked that I was able to make a reservation with almost no information provided other than my name. I'm still on the fence about Big Tree though, the only complaint I've heard about it is that the rooms are only okay. My preference is good location and being close to the action. However, it would suck if it was nonstop noise until 4 am bleeding into my room. I'm only a month away from my trip also, so at this point in leaning towards Big Tree.Big Tree is always full, that's why they don't bother of more details from you, if you show up or not, it does not matter, because there is always somebody to be happy if a room becomes unexpectedly free.

Auro.

[HappyFarang]

I need some advice with dating apps and girl psychology. I am getting a lot of serious girls who want a real relationship. I read in the forums that it's not real and there is nothing to worry about, but I am not getting that vibe. It's becoming uncomfortable to keep the conversation going with this assumption. I can see myself going on dates with girls who are definitely NOT going to sleep with me because of the way we built this up.

I think some of these girls are seeing a good husband in me and will pretend to be saints and act pure = no sex.

Maybe my approach is wrong? Am I supposed to be caring and play this game, or be less warm and make it clear from the very beginning that I am looking purely for dating / short term? What is your approach?

[Bajuni]

Are you nuts? Taking a Matatu late night? Never. Matatus have been robbed by passengers. Late night I only take a Bolt. If I move at all. During the day I take matatus frequently. Its fun. Bongo music blaring. Hilarious. I even go to Mombasa old town. The trick is only weekends. Saturday is a particular easy day. On weekdays I go to Caffesserie and Big Trees.From a seasoned Africa traveler, I would have expected otherwise.

You can shuttle from Cheers to Mtwapa and back anytime of the day.

Hakuna matata. Good pick up spot as well.

The main danger are pick pockets.

But that can happen during daytime as well.

Only difference that you might be more attentive and less drunk.

I anyway would advise to carry not more than 30 USD and an out-of-fashion phone when going out at night.

Nowadays with Mpesa no need to carry cash anyway.

There is really no need to worry about transportation between Bamburi / Nyali and Mtwapa.

It's more or less one straight road.

Plenty of cheap choices.

Only headache is traffic at certain times.

[Albert9989]

I need some advice with dating apps and girl psychology. I am getting a lot of serious girls who want a real relationship. I read in the forums that it's not real and there is nothing to worry about, but I am not getting that vibe. It's becoming uncomfortable to keep the conversation going with this assumption. I can see myself going on dates with girls who are definitely NOT going to sleep with me because of the way we built this up.

I think some of these girls are seeing a good husband in me and will pretend to be saints and act pure = no sex.

Maybe my approach is wrong? Am I supposed to be caring and play this game, or be less warm and make it clear from the very beginning that I am looking purely for dating / short term? What is your approach?Don't play any games, say upfront what you are interested in or not interested in, be clear from start,.

Just ask: what are you looking for here.

She will say: long term, marriage etc.

Answer: bit me, only to share time together if I come there, and more.

That's enough and will not change the chat for most of the girls.

[Zimzam]

Uber gives the price (with reduction) of 1150 ksh from Mtwapa to the Mombasa airport.

I don't think any driver will accept that.

(and I can't blame them for that).

The petrol price is now around 200 ksh and the entry fee for the airport is 100 ksh.

[Neddy69]

I need some advice with dating apps and girl psychology. I am getting a lot of serious girls who want a real relationship. I read in the forums that it's not real and there is nothing to worry about, but I am not getting that vibe. It's becoming uncomfortable to keep the conversation going with this assumption. I can see myself going on dates with girls who are definitely NOT going to sleep with me because of the way we built this up.

I think some of these girls are seeing a good husband in me and will pretend to be saints and act pure = no sex.

Maybe my approach is wrong? Am I supposed to be caring and play this game, or be less warm and make it clear from the very beginning that I am looking purely for dating / short term? What is your approach?It's all lies. It's Africa. Otherwise they would declare that they're hookers who sleep for money with men. Of course they all want relationships. That's why they employ Muganga to bewitch you with love potions or love spells. No kidding. Do they work? You bet. You think too complicated. It's very simple. Date a girl for a soda. Treat her respectfully. Invite her to your crib. Where she will give up pussy or not. 90% do. The other 10% are harder to crack. Example. Kambas are usually a more conservative lot. They want relationship. What does it mean? Exclusive rights. Do they give up pussy too. Absolutely. But after that they'll be lukewarm. You're in for a steep and long learning curve. If you use social networks always ask for the tribe. If you're studying Anthropology like me (kidding) then you know the different tribes and their habits. As I said. Steep learning curve. This is not Thailand.

Mombasa Raha.

Mwalimu.

Who will kiss soon African soil again.

[John Auro]

Ok, as there are some stories about being robbed in a bus. Here my story which happened to me.

HOW TO GET ROBBED IN A MINIBUS (matatu) IN NAIROBI! (year lready 2005).

1) You decide to take the bus for a relatively "harmless" route in NAIROBI. E. g. The route ADAM's ARCADE-SHOPPING to the center. (Taxis are expensive in NBI, around 400+400 Ksh or 9 one way.).

2) The city bus doesn't come for a long time, and you get into one of the minibuses called "Nissan" or "matatu". (Scouts may inform a team at the next stop via cell phone that a prey entered the matatu!

3) At the next station, two or three men who already have an unpleasant appearance get on (you better should spontaneously get out of the minibus by now).

4) The team has sports bags and a flat department store bag that they place over their knees. The stronger man may have a knife or a pistol in his sports bag. But first they try to rob you "softly".

The stronger man sits behind you, protecting the clever man, he sits close to you, like a student in a clean shirt. The sports bag is lifted behind you and if there is a gun inside it would be aimed at you, but you won't notice this if you don't look behind you.

5) Short sentences are exchanged between the group. The other passengers also become feeling unwell and afraid, locals knows what's going on.

6) Instructions will be given to you, e. G. To open the window. The clever person next to you is using the flat department store bag (at least DINA3) to cover up the activity of opening the button on the side pocket of your cargo pants (safari pants) while you are fiddling with the window.

7) If the bandits are unsuccessful, you will be instructed to fasten your seat belt in the minibus.

You need both hands to close the buckles, now the clever person pulls your wallet with your debit card, ID card and money out of your pocket unnoticed. If you noticed something now and protested, you would probably get hit over the head from behind, or even got shot!

You look behind, and one of the passengers tells you in no uncertain terms that you are in danger. You hastily get off at the next stop, check your pocket outside and notice the theft. Furthermore, you are not prepared to write down the car number and even if you do. No police anywhere.

You could have been dead in the ditch right now if things had gone a little differently.

- - -.

November 9, 2005.

[Mombie75]

Matatu theft is a lot more common in Nairobi than Mombasa.

Always sit by the door and if anyone site beside you with an empty bag then be aware.

Use Matatus that already have several travellers and are a mix of age and sexes.

Use popular routes with busy streets.

In 20 years, I use them most days, I have had maybe 2 or 3 attempts at my pockets.

Can you even trust Bodas or Taxis in Kenya? TIA.

[Rat Traveler]

I need some advice with dating apps and girl psychology. I am getting a lot of serious girls who want a real relationship. I read in the forums that it's not real and there is nothing to worry about, but I am not getting that vibe. It's becoming uncomfortable to keep the conversation going with this assumption. I can see myself going on dates with girls who are definitely NOT going to sleep with me because of the way we built this up.

I think some of these girls are seeing a good husband in me and will pretend to be saints and act pure = no sex.

Maybe my approach is wrong? Am I supposed to be caring and play this game, or be less warm and make it clear from the very beginning that I am looking purely for dating / short term? What is your approach?It's funny, I find myself in a somewhat similar situation. I began the dating app conversations two months before I go to Mombasa. I wasn't expecting much, mostly just to try to understand these girls a little bit and also some of them have been a good resource for asking questions about Mombasa.

Anyways, I exchanged Whatsapp numbers with a few that were fun to talk to. Some of them it was easy to be upfront and say let's spend a day or two together. One girl, who happens to be the one I'm most attracted to, came right out and said I want to spend all three weeks with you or else I know a other woman will steal you from me. I know I'm not the type that will be interested in spending my entire vacation with one woman, but this girl is the exact type I'm looking for thick but not chubby with the biggest ass I've seen so far.

As many have pointed out in this forum, this isn't Thailand haha. In Thailand, I always tried this same method of meeting girls and it always worked out because after a night or two, I make up some excuse that I have to meet a friend or something and once they leave we go back to texting. I guess what I'm saying is that I never worried about getting too close with them via messaging because sometimes you really meet one that you want to spend your whole trip with. If she isn't what I expected or if the sex isn't great, find an excuse to get her to leave and go back to the dating app. From what I've seen on these apps, almost every girl replies and is willing to meet up.

[Neddy69]

Matatu theft is a lot more common in Nairobi than Mombasa.

Always sit by the door and if anyone site beside you with an empty bag then be aware.

Use Matatus that already have several travellers and are a mix of age and sexes.

Use popular routes with busy streets.

In 20 years, I use them most days, I have had maybe 2 or 3 attempts at my pockets.

Can you even trust Bodas or Taxis in Kenya? TIA.There's 2 methods. Pickpocketing. Which can hit anyone in any matatu. Including me. A well dressed gentleman with suit and tie with a briefcase entered my matatu. He placed half of his briefcase on my upper thigh. What I didn't realize. He worked on my thight pocket of my cargo trousers. He managed to steal my optical glasses. That's not the kind I'm concerned about.

2. Method. It can happen and does happen in Nairobi and in Mombasa. Late night usually. That's why I never use a matatu later than 9 pm. There's robbers entering a matatu. Usually 2 or 3. At a regular bus stop. They have a knives and maybe a rusty pistol. They proceed to rob all passengers of cash and smart phones. That takes only a few minutes. Never resist. They kill you. After they just stop the matatu, get off and melt away in the night. And yes. That also happened on Malindi road. There is a twist I heard in Nairobi. There's complete fake matatus. You enter. They rob you and kick you out thereafter.

That's why I never take a Matatu later than 9 pm and sunrise. It's Africa. Usually the bad guys melt away at sunrise. Can you be robbed by Taxis. Yes. But rarely. You can also run into trouble with pikipiki drivers. But. That's a story for a different time.

Karibu Kenya.

Mwalimu.

[Reiner Otto]

If she isn't what I expected or if the sex isn't great, find an excuse to get her to leave and go back to the dating app. From what I've seen on these apps, almost every girl replies and is willing to meet up.Yes, had quite some success on Tinder during my stay in Mombasa a month ago. Probably, because not many potential customers, as I have seen only very few single white foreigners.

However, the photos very often were (heavily) photoshopped, so you might meet first in a neutral location, I. E. BigTree or Caffesserie. Or try a video chat.

[London Del Boy]

As I took early retirement this year, I am looking for an extended stay in Kenya through Christmas / new year, possibly until the end of January. If anyone would like to meet up for a beer or 2 let me know. I am also looking for reasonably priced girl friendly accommodation. All pointers would be much appreciated? Thanks Derek.

[MadMonger777]

Hi, I'm planning a trip to Mombasa within the next few weeks. Will be there around 10-15 days.

I'm probably going to do the Airbnb route to avoid the awkwardness of bringing multiple girls up a day through hotel reception, even if I book a hotel for 2 it's a lottery if they come up with some bullshit policy where you can only bring the same girl back or 1 a day which has happened to me in other countries. I'm probably going to stay in the area between Nyali centre and bamburi beach as it seems convenient for everything I want to do.

Accommodation and travel to / from the airport is already accounted for financially.

My plan is to have 3 different girls a day in my airbnb for short time. 1-2 hours of non rush GF experience per girl. I've been using dating apps such as Badoo, Ok Cupid and tinder to gauge pricing whilst also lurking on this forum to gauge prices. In my experience the majority of girls are willing to accept 2 k - 3 k for a couple hours fun for what I want. I'm budgeting 4 k per girl, 3 k for the girl and 1 k for the Uber to bring her to me and take her home.

My plan is to find girls from dating apps, the beach, beach bars and the bars in mtwapa. I'm not a big drinker so when I go to mtwapa bars I'll only be getting a beer for myself and a couple drinks for a couple different girls before I make my choice and take her home.

So I'm budgeting 12 k per day for the girls. I'm not a picky eater and am fine with eating normal quality Kenyan food and I'm estimating 3 meals per day of basic food in local restaurants will cost about 2-3 k per day. I'll also account for short ubers to the beach and ubers to mtwapa at night which I'm accounting maybe 2 k. A beer for me and a drink for 1-2 girls in mtwapa bars before I make my choice maybe 1 k.

Is 18 k per day a realistic amount for what I want to do? I'm a basic guy, the money will be spent on the girls, Ubers and basic food. Only other things I'll be doing are exploring walking around and chilling on the beach which is free.

My budget for this trip is 15 k -20 k per day but if I can get it towards the 15 k end then any saving is better than non. As I say, some girls will accept 2 k for ST, but it's better to overestimate and be comfortable.

Thanks.

[Mombie75]

As I took early retirement this year, I am looking for an extended stay in Kenya through Christmas / new year, possibly until the end of January. If anyone would like to meet up for a beer or 2 let me know. I am also looking for reasonably priced girl friendly accommodation. All pointers would be much appreciated? Thanks Derek.What is your budget? If staying a month or more you can get better deals especially in Mtwapa apartments, Hotels tend to raise prices over Christmas / NY period. The majority of places are GF.

[Mombie75]

Hi, I'm planning a trip to Mombasa within the next few weeks. Will be there around 10-15 days.

I'm probably going to do the Airbnb route to avoid the awkwardness of bringing multiple girls up a day through hotel reception, even if I book a hotel for 2 it's a lottery if they come up with some bullshit policy where you can only bring the same girl back or 1 a day which has happened to me in other countries. I'm probably going to stay in the area between Nyali centre and bamburi beach as it seems convenient for everything I want to do.

Accommodation and travel to / from the airport is already accounted for financially.

My plan is to have 3 different girls a day in my airbnb for short time. 1-2 hours of non rush GF experience per girl. I've been using dating apps such as Badoo, Ok Cupid and tinder to gauge pricing whilst also lurking on this forum to gauge prices. In my experience the majority of girls are willing to accept 2 k - 3 k for a couple hours fun for what I want. I'm budgeting 4 k per girl, 3 k for the girl and 1 k for the Uber to bring her to me and take her home.

My plan is to find girls from dating apps, the beach, beach bars and the bars in mtwapa. I'm not a big drinker so when I go to mtwapa bars I'll only be getting a beer for myself and a couple drinks for a couple different girls before I make my choice and take her home..Sound pretty right budget wise. The hardest thing will be getting 3 girls a day. Plenty will say they will come and visit you but not all will oblige. Also timescale wise as the clock does not exist in Kenya. If a girl says she is coming 12 noon expect her anytime between 3 pm and 8 pm. 12 days could be 36 women. Good luck with that. It sounds like you will have some headaches, but you never know.

[Reiner Otto]

H I'm not a picky eater Wh enlooking for basic food, try the buffet in the large supermarket in Nyali Centre. You need to buy some groceries, anyway, so that's a good place to combine it with lunch.

And I suggest to visit Char-Choma restaurant. Excellent barbecue, reasonably priced.

[Zimzam]

(New) Cheers announced that they will remain closed permanently.

One of the reasons probably the construction of the new highway just next door, which gives a lot of disturbance and limits their space.

Other comments on the attached pic.

[Mombie75]

Whenever I passed all of the last 6 weeks Cheers was always empty.

The road has effected it but also they just had the same music on week after week. Big Tree has taken some custom from them too.

Nightlife in Mombasa is a shadow of its former self in the early 2000's when Cheers and Casarinha were full every night and then on to Tembo. Even Casablanca and Florida.

In town were good nights out.

Nothing lasts forever.

[SuperChuck]

Hello everyone, as I wrote in recent days I am booking my trip to Mombasa. Since I will stop from January to April I would like to know according to your experience what will be the weather conditions in April? Someone told that it rains, others say that it happens only from the end of the month. Help me to understand thanks.

[Oiste]

(New) Cheers announced that they will remain closed permanently.

One of the reasons probably the construction of the new highway just next door, which gives a lot of disturbance and limits their space.

Other comments on the attached pic.A really bad notice!

[MadMonger777]

Sound pretty right budget wise. The hardest thing will be getting 3 girls a day. Plenty will say they will come and visit you but not all will oblige. Also timescale wise as the clock does not exist in Kenya. If a girl says she is coming 12 noon expect her anytime between 3 pm and 8 pm. 12 days could be 36 women. Good luck with that. It sounds like you will have some headaches, but you never know.Thanks for your response man. I'll be taking a girl back from mtwapa every day, and I'll also be finding some girls at the beach and at the beach bars too. Dating apps is just a convenient option if I can't find any good women on foot. I won't be exclusively using dating apps for the girls, I'the prefer to find most in person, because then it's easier to get an idea of her attitude and if she's going to be good in bed.

[London Del Boy]

As I took early retirement this year, I am looking for an extended stay in Kenya through Christmas / new year, possibly until the end of January. If anyone would like to meet up for a beer or 2 let me know. I am also looking for reasonably priced girl friendly accommodation. All pointers would be much appreciated? Thanks Derek.


What is your budget? If staying a month or more you can get better deals especially in Mtwapa apartments, Hotels tend to raise prices over Christmas / NY period. The majority of places are GF.Thanks Mombie. I used to stay in the Kahama or Cowrie Shell on previous trips but they are too expensive for a one month stay. Could I get something under £40 per night on AirBnB? Any recommendations would be appreciated.

[SceticoBlu]

Don't worry about rain in April. If there is any it is only showers. Generally rain got less in the recent years in the coastal region..The short raining season of October was dry last year. Other parts of the country however prepare themselve for floodings.

[HappyFarang]

Don't play any games, say upfront what you are interested in or not interested in, be clear from start,.

Just ask: what are you looking for here.

She will say: long term, marriage etc.

Answer: bit me, only to share time together if I come there, and more.

That's enough and will not change the chat for most of the girls.Thank you for this advice, this is exactly the clarity that I was lacking. I will correct myself immediately before it's too late!

[HappyFarang]

It's all lies. It's Africa. Otherwise they would declare that they're hookers who sleep for money with men. Of course they all want relationships. That's why they employ Muganga to bewitch you with love potions or love spells. No kidding. Do they work? You bet. You think too complicated. It's very simple. Date a girl for a soda. Treat her respectfully. Invite her to your crib. Where she will give up pussy or not. 90% do. The other 10% are harder to crack. Example. Kambas are usually a more conservative lot. They want relationship. What does it mean? Exclusive rights. Do they give up pussy too. Absolutely. But after that they'll be lukewarm. You're in for a steep and long learning curve. If you use social networks always ask for the tribe. If you're studying Anthropology like me (kidding) then you know the different tribes and their habits. As I said. Steep learning curve. This is not Thailand.

Mombasa Raha.

Mwalimu.

Who will kiss soon African soil again.I had never even thought about tribes. I'm learning a lot, thanks. .

I need to "correct" the course of the few chats that I have going. Good luck.

[Mombie75]

Thanks Mombie. I used to stay in the Kahama or Cowrie Shell on previous trips but they are too expensive for a one month stay. Could I get something under 40 per night on AirBnB? Any recommendations would be appreciated.Easily for £40 a night. A good one in Bamburi (the area not the beach) or Nyali. The only problem you will have is that over Christmas and NY it can be busy.

I could put you in touch with someone connected to one of the hotels on Bamburi beach, secure and GF?

Could get for around £33 bed and breakfast per night I reckon over Christmas and NY for a month.

[HappyFarang]

If anyone knows more girl friendly apartments in Mtwapa, Nyali or Bamburi for $20-30 a night, please feel free to share.

I would like to have more options when arrive, or even book in advance.

If my stay is good, I will have more stories to share. .

[SuperChuck]

Thank you for your advice, little rain will not be a problem. The problem is that I cannot find a health insurance that covers a period of 120 days at a reasonable price. Until now I have only found policies from 300-350 euros and are really too many. Perhaps someone here can advise me on a cheaper international insurance (I do not think the insurer should necessarily be from my home country. Italy). Thank you.

[HappyFarang]

I have an important question. I haven't found anything regarding this so far (I read up to December 2022).

What is the best way to withdraw cash? ATM?

I don't want to bring too much cash, wouldn't feel safe doing so.

[Mombie75]

I have an important question. I haven't found anything regarding this so far (I read up to December 2022).

What is the best way to withdraw cash? ATM?

I don't want to bring too much cash, wouldn't feel safe doing so.2 ways I work it.

I have 2 banks cards that give me free usage outside of the UK so I use ATMs and spend as I go.

I will bring some pounds and change them when I am here, I will then take that money and put it straight on my mpesa.

Mpesa is an app if you get a local sim where you can load money from a bank card or with cash at an agent and use as you go, you never need cash as everyone uses mpesa. I use mpesa for everything except matatus and boda bodas.

[BionicMan]

Thank you for your advice, little rain will not be a problem. The problem is that I cannot find a health insurance that covers a period of 120 days at a reasonable price. Until now I have only found policies from 300-350 euros and are really too many. Perhaps someone here can advise me on a cheaper international insurance (I do not think the insurer should necessarily be from my home country. Italy). Thank you.You can get yearly coverage for tourist trips. But the length of each trip can't exceed a certain amount of days (depending on the insurance), most likely to prove you are a tourist and not an expat. This way they also reduce the risk. If not done yet, try Europe Assistance and deal with the call centre, not online.

[Leblon]

Some comments.

-I withdraw money from ATM in Citymall, near Cafe Series. There is concentration of many different banks, and a guard.

Or I did that in Mwtapa, in big road there are several of them. There was lot of discussion in this forum one point which bank gives best rates, I don't remember was there any conclusion.

-To change money, next to Cheers there are several small shops or business. Guys for changing money are there, you can get best rates from them. They change also neighbourhood African countries money. I never changed money there, but I know many musungus who changed money there regularly. You just walk there, several guys come to ask if you want to change money.

-I use mpesa also a lot. You can send money to mpesa directly from World Remit at least, from your credit card, no need to use ATM or cash. Even bank transfer is possible but I have never tried. Girls know this too, they will ask you to send money to their mpesa. So better to say that you don't know how to use mpesa and don't want to learn. I pay also boda boda trips meaning motobike taxis, those guys don't have cash so don't expect change.

-Indiana hotel in Bamburi beach had good terms for people staying long time, once. Big Tree also give better deals if you stay long. Cheapest is still go to Mwtapa and rent a room, you could get 1500 shilling per night or even cheaper, that is what I paid for furnished room when I had long time contract, half year ago. Better to rent something from cheap hotel for short time and then look for long time apartment. Many local people rent apartment and then rent it to musungu, directly or by using Airbnb. Also some Casourina girls.

-I tried to look insurance also for long time, then I gave up. Maximum extend of the trip was always 60 days. There are insurances for nomadic people but I don't know about them, Asian companies may provide something. If somebody knows, please inform.

-matatus, I think they are safe, generally. Why I stopped using them was because it is so slow, they wait in Sanshu to get car full of passengers, and they stop everywhere if they see somebody waiting. In one way they are safe because they are big cars, if accident then it is usually other car that is hurt. Motobike taxi is so much faster but scary.

[Questner]

Thank you for your advice, little rain will not be a problem. The problem is that I cannot find a health insurance that covers a period of 120 days at a reasonable price. Until now I have only found policies from 300-350 euros and are really too many. Perhaps someone here can advise me on a cheaper international insurance (I do not think the insurer should necessarily be from my home country. Italy). Thank you.Try here: https://www.sevencorners.com/.

Other alternatives: Call an insurance broker in Italy to find a plan for you or buy a medical plan for visitors from a insurer in Kenya (better before your landing there).

An annual plan won't work as you have to be back to Italy (35 days with Allianz, for example, and yes they won't offer beyond 120 days).

[Zimzam]

In Mtwapa there are at least two ATM places that do not charge more costs.

These are Diamond Trust Bank in Mtwapa Mall and National Bank, next to the big mosque along the main road in the Malindi direction.

There might be more banks in Mtwapa that do not charge.

A good place to change cash money in Mtwapa is the Shaban phone shop next to Casuarina on the same side of the road.

Shaban moved from the Cheers location to Mtwapa.

[HappyFarang]

2 ways I work it.

I have 2 banks cards that give me free usage outside of the UK so I use ATMs and spend as I go.
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Excellent, I researched M-Pesa and it's the best way. Maybe cash for the girls.


Some comments.
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Thank you, great advice.

I have Transferwise (now called Wise) and they have what they claim to be the best rate. You can transfer money into your Wise account, and then transfer it to M-Pesa directly from their app with the lowest fee.

It seems very straightforward and doesn't involve going to places and wasting time as it can be done from your phone in a few seconds.

On a different note: is it easy to find a GF apartment in Mtwapa once I am on the ground? I don't want to book everything in advance as I may not like the apartment once I see it.

[Rat Traveler]

Excellent, I researched M-Pesa and it's the best way. Maybe cash for the girls.

Thank you, great advice.

I have Transferwise (now called Wise) and they have what they claim to be the best rate. You can transfer money into your Wise account, and then transfer it to M-Pesa directly from their app with the lowest fee.

It seems very straightforward and doesn't involve going to places and wasting time as it can be done from your phone in a few seconds.

On a different note: is it easy to find a GF apartment in Mtwapa once I am on the ground? I don't want to book everything in advance as I may not like the apartment once I see it.This is a great post, because I've been wondering the same. I always bring cash, but ID prefer to use mpesa to pay the girls. I guess I'll find out when I get there after the first few.

As far as transferring to mpesa, I downloaded the app to try it out but I have to wait until I have a safaricom sim. But I did ask around about the app and I was told that you can use a bank account and maybe even a credit card. If that's true, I believe the exchange rate would be determined by my bank. Please correct me if I'm wrong. When traveling and using my credit card, my bank has always given me a better exchange rate than any of the money exchangers. In fact, it's usually right at market rate. I guess I'll try it out with a small sum at first from my bank account to mpesa, then check my statement online to calculate the rate.

[Neddy69]

Try here: https://www.sevencorners.com/.

Other alternatives: Call an insurance broker in Italy to find a plan for you or buy a medical plan for visitors from a insurer in Kenya (better before your landing there).

An annual plan won't work as you have to be back to Italy (35 days with Allianz, for example, and yes they won't offer beyond 120 days).Up to 90 days most credit cards offer additional insurance. Beyond that what for you need insurance? It's very simple. If you live in Africa like I do. You should have 20.000 or 30.000 $ cash on hand for hospital emergencies. This is not the US. A good private hospital a day is maybe 150 $ or 200 $. The best private hospital is Aga Khan. A mate of mine went down with dengue fever. He was hospitalized for 5 days. It cost him The Grand total of 900 $. The ordinary stuff I like doctor or medication is next to nothing. I pay cash. Finish. No rocket science. No need for insurance at all. A doctor charges 2000 KES for a consultancy. Most standard medication like antibiotics cost next to nothing. Like Azithromycin. 2 dollars. Locally made. Imported stuff is of course expensive. If you have major planned surgery fly back to your home country. As they french colons and expats say. The best doctor is Air France. And if you have an emergency in Kenya in the Bush and you live there. Become member of the flying doctor service. It doesn't break the bank and covers medevac by small plane to the nearest hospital.

Mwalimu.

[London Del Boy]

Easily for 40 a night. A good one in Bamburi (the area not the beach) or Nyali. The only problem you will have is that over Christmas and NY it can be busy.

I could put you in touch with someone connected to one of the hotels on Bamburi beach, secure and GF?

Could get for around 33 bed and breakfast per night I reckon over Christmas and NY for a month.Very helpful. The contact will be useful. Thanks.

[Mombie75]

Very helpful. The contact will be useful. Thanks.Can you PM here or not?

[Kako123]

Well I have taken matatus along nyali road many times at night and nothing did happen maybe I was lucky haha).


Are you nuts? Taking a Matatu late night? Never. Matatus have been robbed by passengers. Late night I only take a Bolt. If I move at all. During the day I take matatus frequently. Its fun. Bongo music blaring. Hilarious. I even go to Mombasa old town. The trick is only weekends. Saturday is a particular easy day. On weekdays I go to Caffesserie and Big Trees.

[SimpleGuy111]

Traveling soon to Mombasa and would need a prescription for PrEP. Any recommendations around Nyali area where to find a place to get one? Nyali Center or City Mall areas would be perfect.

Haven't logged in here for a long time and I have lost my old username and password, so I had to register and get a new one.

Thanks!

[HappyFarang]

This is a great post, because I've been wondering the same. I always bring cash, but ID prefer to use mpesa to pay the girls. I guess I'll find out when I get there after the first few.

As far as transferring to mpesa, I downloaded the app to try it out but I have to wait until I have a safaricom sim. But I did ask around about the app and I was told that you can use a bank account and maybe even a credit card. If that's true, I believe the exchange rate would be determined by my bank. Please correct me if I'm wrong. When traveling and using my credit card, my bank has always given me a better exchange rate than any of the money exchangers. In fact, it's usually right at market rate. I guess I'll try it out with a small sum at first from my bank account to mpesa, then check my statement online to calculate the rate.In their website they say that they have the lowest exchange rates, and they list a few major banks along with their rates and show how much lower their rates are.

I wouldn't even mind a slightly higher rate if that means I can send money directly to my M-pesa wallet from my phone anytime I want!

[HappyFarang]

I am now regretting booking my airplane ticket for only 2 weeks. I already applied for Visa with the exact arrival and leave date.

Considering they gave me a 3 months visa, I assume it doesn't matter if I buy a different return ticket and return on a later date?

[Mombie75]

I am now regretting booking my airplane ticket for only 2 weeks. I already applied for Visa with the exact arrival and leave date.

Considering they gave me a 3 months visa, I assume it doesn't matter if I buy a different return ticket and return on a later date?No, it does not matter.

When you are at the immigration desk they will ask how long you are staying, tell them 4 weeks or whatever. They will write in pen oftentimes on your visa stamp a time frame for that visa.

You can stay 3 months then extend 3 months by law.

[Zimzam]

It seems someone is going to try again to open the New Cheers.

[Neddy69]

It seems someone is going to try again to open the New Cheers.There's always some idiot who thinks who can make money. North coast is dead. No tourists. Not even Russians. The last one was Danish.

Neddy.

[HappyFarang]

No, it does not matter.

When you are at the immigration desk they will ask how long you are staying, tell them 4 weeks or whatever. They will write in pen oftentimes on your visa stamp a time frame for that visa.

You can stay 3 months then extend 3 months by law.Thanks Mombie, I will almost certainly stay longer, maybe I can also see Nairobi then. If I am correct, Nairobi has some decent massage establishments that offer full service as a norm. Mombasa has no such establishments.

I have been on Tagged for a while with location set to Mombasa and I see that 90% of the girls want a serious relationship. Zero girls have offered money for sex. Is this strange? I read in these forums that this should be a common occurrence on Tinder, which led me to believe that it would be the same on all dating apps.

I will pay a Tinder subscription the day before flying to Mombasa and see what results I get. I just don't have the energy or the patience to pretend that I care that much. Some girls have already started to be "jealous", but I am not going to lie and say that I am not seeing anyone else. I hate lying.

[PookyMan]

It seems someone is going to try again to open the New Cheers.One of the piki piki guys standing there at Jambo Bora Bora told me it will open this Monday.

[Slowalk]

It seems someone is going to try again to open the New Cheers.Cheers was a theme bar bearing no resemblance to the TV show theme except for the sign.

[Albert9989]

Mombasa has no such establishments.

.Try the small massage hut in Big tree, and you will get nice massages, not sure about full service but at least very relaxing and emptying one.

[Mombie75]

Thanks Mombie, I will almost certainly stay longer, maybe I can also see Nairobi then. If I am correct, Nairobi has some decent massage establishments that offer full service as a norm. Mombasa has no such establishments. I have been on Tagged for a while with location set to Mombasa and I see that 90% of the girls want a serious relationship. Zero girls have offered money for sex. Is this strange? I read in these forums that this should be a common occurrence on Tinder, which led me to believe that it would be the same on all dating apps.
I will pay a Tinder subscription the day before flying to Mombasa and see what results I get. I just don't have the energy or the patience to pretend that I care that much. Some girls have already started to be "jealous", but I am not going to lie and say that I am not seeing anyone else. I hate lying.I have no experience of Nbi massage places except from the ordinary salons in town. I never ask for extras so no idea. I did take one massuer lady back to my place once, everyone is available for some $. I get a massage almost every day in Msa at the beach but it is just massage. Maybe some in Mtwapa, or town or Bamburi offer more, I don't know.

A lot of girls will play the game of trying to make you think they are a good catch. They all want a long term BF to send money or even take them out of Africa. As I have said, some, if they have an income stream won't have a fuck for money. I just offer off the bat what I want and what I will pay. Most on apps say no, but plenty come back a week or two later when needing some rent.

When I am in Kenya now I do not bother with apps anymore. I like to see in real time what I am getting. So I just hot on anything I see as I am moving around, take numbers and at some point 8/10 always come.

[Neddy69]

Thanks Mombie, I will almost certainly stay longer, maybe I can also see Nairobi then. If I am correct, Nairobi has some decent massage establishments that offer full service as a norm. Mombasa has no such establishments.

I have been on Tagged for a while with location set to Mombasa and I see that 90% of the girls want a serious relationship. Zero girls have offered money for sex. Is this strange? I read in these forums that this should be a common occurrence on Tinder, which led me to believe that it would be the same on all dating apps.

I will pay a Tinder subscription the day before flying to Mombasa and see what results I get. I just don't have the energy or the patience to pretend that I care that much. Some girls have already started to be "jealous", but I am not going to lie and say that I am not seeing anyone else. I hate lying.Ah. You hate lying? Africa is not for you then. Everybody LIES when they open their mouth. It's very simple. I consider every utterance a lie unless proven otherwise. When I lie I just omit some facts. That's not lying. It's just creative twisting the inconvenient truth. No kenchic will ever admit lying EVEN if caught red handed. In fact lying and cheating is a national sport in Kenya. Popular lies. I'm not married. I don't have kids. Or a popular twist on the coast. You fuck a women and you're introduced to her "brother" or "cousin". And the kids are of course not her own but her sisters.

Book lying 101 before you set foot on Kenyan soil. I happen to offer one on one courses for just 999.99 dollars. Including VAT. IN FACT THAT'S DIRT CHEAP. People have been scammed out of 100's of thousands of dollars.

Mwalimu.

[Rat Traveler]

Thanks Mombie, I will almost certainly stay longer, maybe I can also see Nairobi then. If I am correct, Nairobi has some decent massage establishments that offer full service as a norm. Mombasa has no such establishments.

I have been on Tagged for a while with location set to Mombasa and I see that 90% of the girls want a serious relationship. Zero girls have offered money for sex. Is this strange? I read in these forums that this should be a common occurrence on Tinder, which led me to believe that it would be the same on all dating apps.

I will pay a Tinder subscription the day before flying to Mombasa and see what results I get. I just don't have the energy or the patience to pretend that I care that much. Some girls have already started to be "jealous", but I am not going to lie and say that I am not seeing anyone else. I hate lying.It seems like you and I are having similar pre-trip experiences. I've seen that most would prefer to accompany you throughout your entire stay. I started just being up front and saying that I'm looking to meet girls that fit my type so we can spend a night together. The same girls looking for a serious relationship will likely oblige. It seems like you don't want to be tied down throughout your whole stay, which makes sense. I'd rather agree to a price and terms up front then meet a girl without discussing and then trying to ditch her after a day. The last thing I want to do during my vacation is spend one night with a girl I meet on an app and then have her ask for some ridiculous amount of money to leave.

As far as lying goes, most working girls regardless of which country you're in are crafty liars. Even if they're really into you, money is powerful in a place where its hard to come by. You have to lie, or at least omit details, to protect yourself from being a target.

[Reiner Otto]

Try the small massage hut in Big tree, and you will get nice massages, not sure about full service but at least very relaxing and emptying one.And you can check the freelancers in Big Tree.

[HappyFarang]

Try the small massage hut in Big tree, and you will get nice massages, not sure about full service but at least very relaxing and emptying one.Thanks, I'm glad I can get a massage at least.


A lot of girls will play the game of trying to make you think they are a good catch. They all want a long term BF to send money or even take them out of Africa. As I have said, some, if they have an income stream won't have a fuck for money. I just offer off the bat what I want and what I will pay. Most on apps say no, but plenty come back a week or two later when needing some rent.

When I am in Kenya now I do not bother with apps anymore. I like to see in real time what I am getting. So I just hot on anything I see as I am moving around, take numbers and at some point 8/10 always come.I like your approach. I have a heart and I can't just fuck about with people's emotions. I had a video call with one girl from the app and she was the loveliest creature I have seen in a while. She goes to church and everything else. I don't know if it's all an act or if it's real, but I felt like I was playing a dangerous game.

I may throw all these apps in the bin and do it the old school way.


Ah. You hate lying? Africa is not for you then.Thanks for the reality check, I needed that. I don't lie, so I omit / embellish the truth. But it's tiring. I'll learn to be more direct and cut the BS.

[HappyFarang]

It seems like you and I are having similar pre-trip experiences. I've seen that most would prefer to accompany you throughout your entire stay. I started just being up front and saying that I'm looking to meet girls that fit my type so we can spend a night together. The same girls looking for a serious relationship will likely oblige. It seems like you don't want to be tied down throughout your whole stay, which makes sense. I'd rather agree to a price and terms up front then meet a girl without discussing and then trying to ditch her after a day. The last thing I want to do during my vacation is spend one night with a girl I meet on an app and then have her ask for some ridiculous amount of money to leave.

As far as lying goes, most working girls regardless of which country you're in are crafty liars. Even if they're really into you, money is powerful in a place where its hard to come by. You have to lie, or at least omit details, to protect yourself from being a target.I will start doing this immediately. I believe that 90% of the girls I am chatting with think I will stay with them for the whole stay. : the.

[SuperChuck]

There's always some idiot who thinks who can make money. North coast is dead. No tourists. Not even Russians. The last one was Danish.

Neddy.The idiots who want to reopen Cheers are welcome and all those who brought death to the north coast are welcome because I continue to have stratospheric fun. I'm bored by those who talk to me about what Kenya was like 20 years ago or Brazil 20 years ago or Cuba 20 years ago and who cares. The places don't change much but the people change with the passing years. I smoke pipe and my faboulus Dunhill tobaccos no longer exist and yet I don't bother writing every time how much they were good but I smoke other ones and I still enjoy them. And I'm absolutely certain that if I found a can of sealed Dunhill tobacco from the 80's today it wouldn't taste the same. So long life to the death of the north coast and long live Mombasa.

[Neddy69]

The idiots who want to reopen Cheers are welcome and all those who brought death to the north coast are welcome because I continue to have stratospheric fun. I'm bored by those who talk to me about what Kenya was like 20 years ago or Brazil 20 years ago or Cuba 20 years ago and who cares. The places don't change much but the people change with the passing years. I smoke pipe and my faboulus Dunhill tobaccos no longer exist and yet I don't bother writing every time how much they were good but I smoke other ones and I still enjoy them. And I'm absolutely certain that if I found a can of sealed Dunhill tobacco from the 80's today it wouldn't taste the same. So long life to the death of the north coast and long live Mombasa.Don't get me wrong. I don't care in the slightest if there are tourists or not. There will always be plenty pussy in need of funds. Tourist or not. Prostitution in Mombasa exists since 1000 years. Why? It has been a port city. First the Portuguese came. Then the Omani trades and the dhow trade. Just the party factor is not the same. But that goes for the whole world unfortunately. The booming days of the low cost European charter flights are gone.

In Kenya I can live for a song. Whereas in Europe it's council housing. Pussy prison and high heating costs. I don't understand why any sane British pensioner on a state pension doesn't move to Kenya tomorrow. LOL.

Mwalimu.

For the record. I'm not British. LOL.

[AttilaTheHun]

Don't get me wrong. I don't care in the slightest if there are tourists or not. There will always be plenty pussy in need of funds. Tourist or not. Prostitution in Mombasa exists since 1000 years. Why? It has been a port city. First the Portuguese came. Then the Omani trades and the dhow trade. Just the party factor is not the same. But that goes for the whole world unfortunately. The booming days of the low cost European charter flights are gone.

In Kenya I can live for a song. Whereas in Europe it's council housing. Pussy prison and high heating costs. I don't understand why any sane British pensioner on a state pension doesn't move to Kenya tomorrow. LOL.

Mwalimu.

For the record. I'm not British. LOL.I'm from the USA, so moving to Africa was not as simple for me as for Europeans. We have black pussy right at home. However, for the best bang for your buck experience most go to the DRP, Columbia and Brazil right in our backyard. Same time zone and only a few hrs flight and inexpensive. The girls are beautiful, have better attitudes and there are plenty of them, all eager to date or do business with gringos. My only problem with that, they speak Spanish mostly. Most men don't care, but I do and wasn't in the mood to learn the language. Yes, you could get along with basic Spanish and by English at tourist areas. However, I'm the type who likes to have good conversation with girls, so I had to find another place. Philippines is great for brown girls, but they are too small and after receiving many angry looks back at me for my strong torque in doggy, I had to make the move to Africa. Obviously, Africa will stay the pussy hunting ground primary for European men. Because coming to Africa is not a straight and simple way from the USA for the reasons I just described. Also, the retirement visas in African countries have high income requirements vs. Columbia, for example. Kenya is asking $2000 US dollars minimum, Zambia around $1800 US dollars, South Africa also $2000 as the minimum monthly income requirement. Uganda doesn't even offer any retirement visas. In Columbia, you must have a minimum income of $800/ month only and most countries in the Americas only $1000 to $1400. On top of that, life is cheaper there with better infrastructure and medical care etc. Africa is going to stay the remote land of infinite exotic pussy paradise for the few white hunters young and old for many years to come for sure.

[Neddy69]

I'm from the USA, so moving to Africa was not as simple for me as for Europeans. We have black pussy right at home. However, for the best bang for your buck experience most go to the DRP, Columbia and Brazil right in our backyard. Same time zone and only a few hrs flight and inexpensive. The girls are beautiful, have better attitudes and there are plenty of them, all eager to date or do business with gringos. My only problem with that, they speak Spanish mostly. Most men don't care, but I do and wasn't in the mood to learn the language. Yes, you could get along with basic Spanish and by English at tourist areas. However, I'm the type who likes to have good conversation with girls, so I had to find another place. Philippines is great for brown girls, but they are too small and after receiving many angry looks back at me for my strong torque in doggy, I had to make the move to Africa. Obviously, Africa will stay the pussy hunting ground primary for European men. Because coming to Africa is not a straight and simple way from the USA for the reasons I just described. Also, the retirement visas in African countries have high income requirements vs. Columbia, for example. Kenya is asking $2000 US dollars minimum, Zambia around $1800 US dollars, South Africa also $2000 as the minimum monthly income requirement. Uganda doesn't even offer any retirement visas. In Columbia, you must have a minimum income of $800/ month only and most countries in the Americas only $1000 to $1400. On top of that, life is cheaper there with better infrastructure and medical care etc. Africa is going to stay the remote land of infinite exotic pussy paradise for the few white hunters young and old for many years to come for sure.Who needs a retirement Visa in Kenya? Only the super rich. I know most people live on serial tourist visa on coast. You have 3+2 months. Same in Uganda. I met people haven't left Uganda for 3 years on a tourist visa. Then a short hop over the border. Back in. There is a particular good loophole too. Become a man of any church. Religious Visa. Works in Uganda Tansania and Kenya. All Nigerian scam priests use this loophole. When in Africa do as the Africans do LOL. I agree with you from the US it's not as convenient. But for Europeans it is. There is an African country where you officially need only 500 euros retirement income a month. That's where I'll retire. But. Nobody speaks English there. English speakers have to get out of their comfort zone. For South America you have to learn Spanish and Portuguese. For Africa English and French is essential. Plus Portuguese if you want to visit Angola and Mozambique. That's the way it is.

Mwalimu.

Thankfully languages are my hobby. Sema Kiswahili kidogo.

[AttilaTheHun]

Who needs a retirement Visa in Kenya? Only the super rich. I know most people live on serial tourist visa on coast. You have 3+2 months. Same in Uganda. I met people haven't left Uganda for 3 years on a tourist visa. Then a short hop over the border. Back in. There is a particular good loophole too. Become a man of any church. Religious Visa. Works in Uganda Tansania and Kenya. All Nigerian scam priests use this loophole. When in Africa do as the Africans do LOL. I agree with you from the US it's not as convenient. But for Europeans it is. There is an African country where you officially need only 500 euros retirement income a month. That's where I'll retire. But. Nobody speaks English there. English speakers have to get out of their comfort zone. For South America you have to learn Spanish and Portuguese. For Africa English and French is essential. Plus Portuguese if you want to visit Angola and Mozambique. That's the way it is.

Mwalimu.

Thankfully languages are my hobby. Sema Kiswahili kidogo.I guess you're referring to Madagascar, but I wasn't able to find any info about it. 500 euros sounds interesting for the small pensioner, but French is a must there, otherwise you would feel like a "stray dog" (your words) never be able to fit in anywhere. My monthly is over $2 k, and I'm not fun of the "Visa runs" and do the "re-enter" with a new visa on arrival. I will also look into this Religious Visa, thanks. I'm not getting out of my comfort zone any longer, I'm tired and too old for that. Born and Raised in communist Eastern Europe, I already speak languages (also add mandatory Russian) and was forced to get out my zone many times. I'm an Old dog, sticking to English-speaking countries, thanks. My Luhya girls speak English and I couldn't be happier. Doing my own style of Africa pussy hunting exploration, bravened by some of my folks long before me, Count Teleki and Count Laszlo Almasy.

[Neddy69]

I guess you're referring to Madagascar, but I wasn't able to find any info about it. 500 euros sounds interesting for the small pensioner, but French is a must there, otherwise you would feel like a "stray dog" (your words) never be able to fit in anywhere. My monthly is over $2 k, and I'm not fun of the "Visa runs" and do the "re-enter" with a new visa on arrival. I will also look into this Religious Visa, thanks. I'm not getting out of my comfort zone any longer, I'm tired and too old for that. Born and Raised in communist Eastern Europe, I already speak languages (also add mandatory Russian) and was forced to get out my zone many times. I'm an Old dog, sticking to English-speaking countries, thanks. My Luhya girls speak English and I couldn't be happier. Doing my own style of Africa pussy hunting exploration, bravened by some of my folks long before me, Count Teleki and Count Laszlo Almasy.So you're ethnic Hungarian. Like me. My father came over in 1956. I know all Austro-Hungarian Explorers. History is my hobby. Yes. It's Madagascar. You won't find any info in the internet. The powers to be want it that way. The official website isn't even working. Only the initiated get a residence. And french is essential. There was another explorer. The Hungarians Poles and Czechs all claim Count Benyovsky as their own. LOL. There were also a number of Austro-Hungarian big game hunters roaming in what was back then BEA. British East Africa.

Mwalimu.

[Mombie75]

I guess you're referring to Madagascar, but I wasn't able to find any info about it. 500 euros sounds interesting for the small pensioner, but French is a must there, otherwise you would feel like a "stray dog" (your words) never be able to fit in anywhere. My monthly is over $2 k, and I'm not fun of the "Visa runs" and do the "re-enter" with a new visa on arrival. I will also look into this Religious Visa, thanks. I'm not getting out of my comfort zone any longer, I'm tired and too old for that. Born and Raised in communist Eastern Europe, I already speak languages (also add mandatory Russian) and was forced to get out my zone many times. I'm an Old dog, sticking to English-speaking countries, thanks. My Luhya girls speak English and I couldn't be happier. Doing my own style of Africa pussy hunting exploration, bravened by some of my folks long before me, Count Teleki and Count Laszlo Almasy.Get yourself a contact in Kenya so you can get your passport stamped so it looks as though you are leaving and coming back, ie doing visa runs, you never have to actually leave. A lot of Brits ex pats do this.

[Carle]

Who needs a retirement Visa in Kenya? Only the super rich. I know most people live on serial tourist visa on coast. You have 3+2 months. Same in Uganda. I met people haven't left Uganda for 3 years on a tourist visa. Then a short hop over the border. Back in. There is a particular good loophole too. Become a man of any church. Religious Visa. Works in Uganda Tansania and Kenya. All Nigerian scam priests use this loophole. When in Africa do as the Africans do LOL. I agree with you from the US it's not as convenient. But for Europeans it is. There is an African country where you officially need only 500 euros retirement income a month. That's where I'll retire. But. Nobody speaks English there. English speakers have to get out of their comfort zone. For South America you have to learn Spanish and Portuguese. For Africa English and French is essential. Plus Portuguese if you want to visit Angola and Mozambique. That's the way it is..Needy, Which would be the monthly income needed to live in Mada, I mean à correct life not too root?

[AttilaTheHun]

So you're ethnic Hungarian. Like me. My father came over in 1956. I know all Austro-Hungarian Explorers. History is my hobby. Yes. It's Madagascar. You won't find any info in the internet. The powers to be want it that way. The official website isn't even working. Only the initiated get a residence. And french is essential. There was another explorer. The Hungarians Poles and Czechs all claim Count Benyovsky as their own. LOL. There were also a number of Austro-Hungarian big game hunters roaming in what was back then BEA. British East Africa.

Mwalimu.Yes I am, Welcome brother! Yes, the story of Count Benyovsky of Madagascar and the big game hunters from Hungary are fascinating. However, the Magyarab: Africa's Lost Hungarian Tribe in Sudan takes the cake for me. https://youtu.be/J-er3THRd8Q?si=_zYOMuGza-nS4GCe.

Who wants to start his own tribe in Africa?

[AttilaTheHun]

Get yourself a contact in Kenya so you can get your passport stamped so it looks as though you are leaving and coming back, ie doing visa runs, you never have to actually leave. A lot of Brits ex pats do this.So basically, a fixer would take care of the stamp and the new visa for me without ever leaving. Thanks for the info.

[AttilaTheHun]

Needy, Which would be the monthly income needed to live in Mada, I mean correct life not too root?You may want to look up "Madagascar Expat Lifestyle" on FB and join it. It's run by an American from New York. Post your questions and he and the members will answer them.

[Slowalk]

So basically, a fixer would take care of the stamp and the new visa for me without ever leaving. Thanks for the info.You get a visa for 3 months for $51 then a free extension for 2 more. I'm always ready to get out of Kenya by the end of the 5 months. The 'fixers" can cost you more unless you're a poor planner and it isn't exactly legal which carries its own set potential problems.

[Neddy69]

Needy, Which would be the monthly income needed to live in Mada, I mean correct life not too root?Depends on your life style. Rent can be expensive. But as ballpark with 1000 $ a month you live well in 100 countries on this planet. Can you go lower. Absolutely. 700 $ or less is possible. Depending on your life style and city. One caveat. Have at least 30.000 $ cash for health emergencies. Have passive income. To get a job in Madagascar or any African country is a pipe dream for 99%. And work in paradise. No f. G way.

Mwalimu.

[Neddy69]

You may want to look up "Madagascar Expat Lifestyle" on FB and join it. It's run by an American from New York. Post your questions and he and the members will answer them.Forget these Expat life style sites. They just want to make money by selling you information. I'm not an Expat. An Expat is someone who has a cushy job with an NGO Embassy or international Organization or mining company. They make 100.000 Dollar plus a year. They typically don't know fuck ALL about the country they live in. They re paying typically a couple of 1000 dollars in rent alone. They also have ZERO clue how to obtain a residence permit. Why? The organization fixes everything for them. They live in a parallel universe. If you want to know what's going on talk to real residents or retirees who are married and live since decades there. They're the best source of information.

Mwalimu.

[Neddy69]

Yes I am, Welcome brother! Yes, the story of Count Benyovsky of Madagascar and the big game hunters from Hungary are fascinating. However, the Magyarab: Africa's Lost Hungarian Tribe in Sudan takes the cake for me. https://youtu.be/J-er3THRd8Q?si=_zYOMuGza-nS4GCe.

Who wants to start his own tribe in Africa?We ARE an own tribe in Kenya. Called the Wazungu. An African knows only tribal system. Actually the Indian community got themselves recognized as tribe. That means they have right to representation in the Kenyan parliament.

A thanks. For the book.

I found crazy stories. Lots of Greeks used to live in Katanga. There's a sizeable Greek community and a cemetery in Dar es Salaam füare example.

[Neddy69]

So basically, a fixer would take care of the stamp and the new visa for me without ever leaving. Thanks for the info.Be careful. There's fixers and "fixers". I know people paid for a good looking (fake) residence permit 3000 euros. These idiots are the laughing stock on coast. Talk to a knowledgeable old Retiree. Pay him a few beers. Groom your contacts. If he likes you he will spill the beans. Did I ever use a fixer. NO. What for? I do my own due diligence and my own research. And believe me. That takes years. I trust nobody unless proven otherwise. For me it's simple. I have contacts in immigration. No need for a fixer. The whole of Africa is full of (also white) scammers. There's a standard tariff of 20.000 to 25.000 KES. It's perfectly legal illegallity. A stamp alone is not enough. They stamp you out as having virtually left the country. That includes entry in the computer database. New eVisa and new entry stamp. And voilà you have another 5 months.

Mwalimu.

[AttilaTheHun]

Forget these Expat life style sites. They just want to make money by selling you information. I'm not an Expat. An Expat is someone who has a cushy job with an NGO Embassy or international Organization or mining company. They make 100.000 Dollar plus a year. They typically don't know fuck ALL about the country they live in. They re paying typically a couple of 1000 dollars in rent alone. They also have ZERO clue how to obtain a residence permit. Why? The organization fixes everything for them. They live in a parallel universe. If you want to know what's going on talk to real residents or retirees who are married and live since decades there. They're the best source of information.

Mwalimu.What you just described is a OW (overseas worker) Expats are those who retired on Social security and pensions in a foreign country, the expatriated folks. For example, in the Philippines, it's common knowledge that the average expat lives on about $1400-$1500 per month. And that also happens to be the average social security payments for most Americans. Where I came from (USA), that's the meaning of an expat. The American dude Alex Zaves who runs the "Madagascar Expat Lifestyle" also his own very informative personal FB, retired in Madagascar and married to a local woman also they have kids together. I received some good sensible advice from them in the past, (rent prices and English proficiency related) and never been solicited or pressured to or targeted to sell me anything. He updates his FB with good info about current events. It seems to be good quality. He comes across as boots on the ground!

[AttilaTheHun]

Be careful. There's fixers and "fixers". I know people paid for a good looking (fake) residence permit 3000 euros. These idiots are the laughing stock on coast. Talk to a knowledgeable old Retiree. Pay him a few beers. Groom your contacts. If he likes you he will spill the beans. Did I ever use a fixer. NO. What for? I do my own due diligence and my own research. And believe me. That takes years. I trust nobody unless proven otherwise. For me it's simple. I have contacts in immigration. No need for a fixer. The whole of Africa is full of (also white) scammers. There's a standard tariff of 20.000 to 25.000 KES. It's perfectly legal illegallity. A stamp alone is not enough. They stamp you out as having virtually left the country. That includes entry in the computer database. New eVisa and new entry stamp. And voil you have another 5 months.

Mwalimu.I looked up the Retirement Visa. I just copied it from the government site. It's called the Class K: (Ordinary residents) retirement Visa.

"Documentary proof of annual assured income of at least USD 24,000 of own rightful and at free disposal from other sources other than employment, occupation, trade, business, or profession.

Income that is derived from sources outside Kenya remitted as pension or annuity.

Fee: Processing- Kshs. 10,000 non-refundable. Issuance- Kshs. 100,000 per year".

It cost $665 per year plus the $66 processing fee! That's over $730 per year. Maybe better just do the visa runs. "visa for 3 months for $51 then a free extension for 2 more" as per Slowalk.

I just go to Uganda after 3 or 5 months as part of my Visa Run routine then.

[Slowalk]

I looked up the Retirement Visa. I just copied it from the government site. It's called the Class K: (Ordinary residents)
I just go to Uganda after 3 or 5 months as part of my Visa Run routine then.For Americans, TZ issues only a 90 D multiple entry visa good for 1 year for $100.

Total cost of visa for 1 year is $152 - $202.

3 M - $51 KE.

2 M. Free KE.

3 M - $100 TZ OR 3 M $50 UG.

3 M - $51 KE.

2 M. Free KE OR 1 M free TZ.

There's travel and housing costs to consider.

[Mombie75]

Kenya does a 5 year multiple entry visa for Americans.

[Bajuni]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.

[PookyMan]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.Yes, I agree.

Last year I extended my visa online and got 2 months, from the date of application. I needed 3 months, so I went to immigration. There was a woman outside who was doing difficult to let me inside the compound. Seems I needed some other form too, or such nonsense. But after some talk she let me in. Immigration is at the 3rd floor. You can easily miss / overlook it. I talked to the immigration guy there and he changed some stuff on the computer and put a stamp in my passport which gave me a 3 month extension. Gave him kk for his trouble.

No trouble when leaving the country.

[AttilaTheHun]

Kenya does a 5 year multiple entry visa for Americans.5 yr Multiple Entry Visa:

It cost $161. It's not that simple, though.

For Business Visits:

Invitation Letters from company / Invitation letter for business visits / Copies of registration of the company.

For Tourists:

Travel itinerary (Details about places to visit if going as tourist). / Hotel bookings.

How on earth, someone can make hotel bookings for 5 years in advance? Am I missing something here?

https://evisa.go.ke/services/5yrMultipleEntryVisa

[Neddy69]

Yes, I agree.

Last year I extended my visa online and got 2 months, from the date of application. I needed 3 months, so I went to immigration. There was a woman outside who was doing difficult to let me inside the compound. Seems I needed some other form too, or such nonsense. But after some talk she let me in. Immigration is at the 3rd floor. You can easily miss / overlook it. I talked to the immigration guy there and he changed some stuff on the computer and put a stamp in my passport which gave me a 3 month extension. Gave him kk for his trouble.

No trouble when leaving the country.Usually the standard extension of the 3 months tourist visa online given is 2 months. You MIGHT get 3 months if you take the trouble to go to immigration yourself. Might. Nobody I know bothers. It's 3+2.

Usually for the K-Permit IF you get it you pay 2 years in advance. You'll not get it for a year. Plus you pay a 100 k deposit in case there's to pay for your deportation flight. So it's 300.000 KES for 2 years. Now the dollar depreciated so it became cheaper in dollar terms. But not cheap.

As for Visa runs. No need. The tariff if you know the right people is 20.000 to 25.000 KES. 3 M+2 M is 5 months. That includes the exit stamp the new eVisa and the new entry stamp. No matter what BS other people write on this forum. That's the way it's is. Believe it or not.

The 5 year tourist visa for US citizens is hard to get and that doesn't allow you to stay 5 years. It's VALID for 5 years. It's also for a maximum stay of 3 months at a time. It's meant for business purposes.

TZ Visa. Tanzania gives VoA for 3 months. You can extend it at Immigration headquarters for a month each up to another 3 months total of 6 months. But. It's at discretion of Immigration. I was lucky I got it 3 times. Don't forget to wear long trousers and dress decently.

As I previously wrote. That's not hearsay. I DID everything myself. Don't worry about Immigration. They always find a loophole to milk the system. IT or not IT. As long as Kenya charges funny money for residents permit the legal illegal Visa game will continue. Karibu Kenya.

Mwalimu.

[Slowalk]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.The only time you need to leave EA is if you have an EA visa and then you can simple go to TZ who is not part of the EA visa community. I posted this already in General Information.

When you request a 3 month extension online, they approve it for 2 month automatically. You print out the approved extension then take it to one of the 7 ish immigration offices around Kenya. Not to the border. You can ask the immigration to stamp you for 3 months but you need a valid reason.

In some immigration offices you can be arrested for offering a bribe.

Kenya Immigration at Land Borders are corrupt. They look for bribes so i come back from TZ with time left to return on my multi entry visa. If you get yourself in a situation where you have no place to return to, Kenyan Immigration may try to shake you down. I’ve never had that problem at all from UG or TZ.

[Slowalk]

5 yr Multiple Entry Visa:

It cost $161. It's not that simple, though.

For Business Visits:

Invitation Letters from company / Invitation letter for business visits / Copies of registration of the company.

For Tourists:

Travel itinerary (Details about places to visit if going as tourist). / Hotel bookings.

How on earth, someone can make hotel bookings for 5 years in advance? Am I missing something here?

https://evisa.go.ke/services/5yrMultipleEntryVisaI know someone with a 5 year multi entry visa. He didn't make hotel bookings, he rents a compound and uses the agreement. Also, he must follow the same 3 month then apply for free extension as a tourist has to. The difference is he simply returns to KE with his visa. He's somewhat computer illiterate and always travels to UG every 3 months then spends 1 month in UG. He never applies for the extension. It's on a different site (eFNS) than the KE visa (eCitizen).

[Leblon]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.I am also confused about this talk about 3+2 meaning 5 months. I have stayed six months or that 180 days now past several years. Then I have left to my own country.

[HappyFarang]

I should be having my first sexual encounter with an African girl today. I hope it goes smoothly.

Mtwapa is a little intimidating. No white faces. I wanted to buy some food but didn't know where to go.

Also wanted to buy a pair of trousers but same thing.

I am a 20 m walk NE from Posta.

Is 300 kes a good price to go from Mtwapa to Big Tree?

How about 300 kes back from Big Tree at night?

I am trying Tinder now, looks more promising than Tagged. I am just honest and cut the BS, but I don't mention money, I just say that I am not interested in long term. Should money be discussed in advance?

[HappyFarang]

Where can I take a girl to have tea in Mtwapa before I invite them to my apartment?

Any decent places?

[Slowalk]

I am also confused about this talk about 3+2 meaning 5 months. I have stayed six months or that 180 days now past several years. Then I have left to my own country.Are you applying yourself on eFNS or are you going to Immigration and having an immigration officer fill out the forms for a "fee"?

[Mombie75]

I should be having my first sexual encounter with an African girl today. I hope it goes smoothly.

Mtwapa is a little intimidating. No white faces. I wanted to buy some food but didn't know where to go.

Also wanted to buy a pair of trousers but same thing.

I am a 20 m walk NE from Posta.

Is 300 kes a good price to go from Mtwapa to Big Tree?

How about 300 kes back from Big Tree at night?

I am trying Tinder now, looks more promising than Tagged. I am just honest and cut the BS, but I don't mention money, I just say that I am not interested in long term. Should money be discussed in advance?Mtwapa is fine all day, at night just be a bit more careful if you are a newbie. There is a place called Mona Lisa behind Kendas does good food. Others will know doubt tell you other places as well. Eagles Nest food has always been good when I've been in too.

300 ks sounds about right to me.

Always agree the price up front, saves any problems afterwards.

[Mombie75]

Where can I take a girl to have tea in Mtwapa before I invite them to my apartment?

Any decent places?There is a coffee shop on the main road try that? Also that small food mall with the bakery and chicken place.

[Zimzam]

Where can I take a girl to have tea in Mtwapa before I invite them to my apartment?

Any decent places?There are not many "decent places" in Mtwapa to drink tea.

But you could go in the morning from 6 to 1 to the Bakery.

Otherwise you could go to Moorings, the floating restaurant or to the Marina Seaside restaurant along the Creek.

Or you can take a taxi to Yul's or the Whitesands Hotel on Bamburi beachside.

[Leblon]

Where can I take a girl to have tea in Mtwapa before I invite them to my apartment?

Any decent places?Easiest is to go to Eagle's Nest in the Postal road, that is decent enough, and open in daytime also. I have drunk there tea often, other people drink beer. Common place for couples to meet.

To take her to some nicer place, Moorings was mentioned already. Most romantic place in my opinion is Marina Resort, that is very peaceful place, and views to creek are nice, it is high. I wonder what is name in the outside door. Not many people go there or even know about it? It is hotel but outside cafe / restaurant is open to everybody. Not expensive.

Other place nearby is La Marina, then you are on the sea level in creek. That is food restaurant. This beach road to both places, I think it is called Marina road? There are security stops in road but they let every musungu pass.

But Eagle Nest should be good and much easier than those Marina places, for them you need to do some walk or motobike. Everybody knows Eagle's Nest.

[Leblon]

I should be having my first sexual encounter with an African girl today. I hope it goes smoothly.

Mtwapa is a little intimidating. No white faces. I wanted to buy some food but didn't know where to go.

Also wanted to buy a pair of trousers but same thing.

I am a 20 m walk NE from Posta.

Is 300 kes a good price to go from Mtwapa to Big Tree?

How about 300 kes back from Big Tree at night?

I am trying Tinder now, looks more promising than Tagged. I am just honest and cut the BS, but I don't mention money, I just say that I am not interested in long term. Should money be discussed in advance?Well, I guess you are already in action at this time. I mentioned Eagle Nest before. Tomorrow, take motobike to Eagle Nest, and go to actual Eagle Nest upstairs, or in the cafes and bars in the street level. You see lot of white faces. Start to talk with them, they will tell you all you know about Mwtapa (unless they have just arrived also). There is small supermarket in 50 meter from there, also shops for clothes. Bigger supermarkets, those white guys can tell you where to find. Hmm. It is Monday. Maybe it is good idea to go to Eagle Nest even tonight, there used to be karaoke night on Mondays, only place where there are people on Monday night. Later many of them in Casourina. I am not in Mombasa now.

[Reiner Otto]

There are not many "decent places" in Mtwapa to drink tea.
Or you can take a taxi to Yul's I consider it far too expensive, for its mediocre quality. Better alternative: Char Choma (especially in the evening, for excellent BBQ! Do not miss it).

Or Cafesserie in Bamburi. Has good bakery.

When looking for freelancers: Tuesday and Friday evening live music in Safari Inn.

Will be in Bamburi again on 03-Nov. Send me a PM, in case of interest having a beer together.

[HappyFarang]

Mtwapa is fine all day, at night just be a bit more careful if you are a newbie. There is a place called Mona Lisa behind Kendas does good food. Others will know doubt tell you other places as well. Eagles Nest food has always been good when I've been in too.

300 ks sounds about right to me.

Always agree the price up front, saves any problems afterwards.Thanks will check those places out!

Where can I find fresh produce? I am looking for a place that has a great variety of fruits.

[HappyFarang]

Thanks for all the responses, I have quite a few places to explore now. Some of these places seem heavy on meat for a vegetarian / vegan.

[Rat Traveler]

I should be having my first sexual encounter with an African girl today. I hope it goes smoothly.

Mtwapa is a little intimidating. No white faces. I wanted to buy some food but didn't know where to go.

Also wanted to buy a pair of trousers but same thing.

I am a 20 m walk NE from Posta.

Is 300 kes a good price to go from Mtwapa to Big Tree?

How about 300 kes back from Big Tree at night?

I am trying Tinder now, looks more promising than Tagged. I am just honest and cut the BS, but I don't mention money, I just say that I am not interested in long term. Should money be discussed in advance?I'm curious how it plays out for you with the Tinder conversations. I completely understand what you're going through. If you post an update on how some of the dates with no mention of money went, I'd be very interested to read it.

[Mombie75]

Thanks will check those places out!

Where can I find fresh produce? I am looking for a place that has a great variety of fruits.You can see fruit sellers on corners or moving around with fresh pineapple, mango, passion fruit etc. Just keep an eye out for them. There is a nice little fruit juice shack on tucked into the corner of the block opposite Kendas. Nice place.

[Leblon]

Well, I guess you are already in action at this time. I mentioned Eagle Nest before. Tomorrow, take motobike to Eagle Nest, and go to actual Eagle Nest upstairs, or in the cafes and bars in the street level. You see lot of white faces. Start to talk with them, they will tell you all you know about Mwtapa (unless they have just arrived also). There is small supermarket in 50 meter from there, also shops for clothes. Bigger supermarkets, those white guys can tell you where to find. Hmm. It is Monday. Maybe it is good idea to go to Eagle Nest even tonight, there used to be karaoke night on Mondays, only place where there are people on Monday night. Later many of them in Casourina. I am not in Mombasa now.Actually, I don't think these "romantic" places are good to meet any girl. I don't like making any dates in Mombasa, or let's say in Africa or in South America. You end up waiting for hours, girl says that she is almost here, only 30 minuts, or 10 minuts, and then she comes after four hours, or often, she will at the end close her phone and not come at all. You spend whole day or afternoon waiting for your short time girl.

So if you agree to meet some girl, meet her in some place where there are some other girls available, if she will not come. Like Big Tree. Eagle Nest is still good, there are girls there also.

[PookyMan]

Actually, I don't think these "romantic" places are good to meet any girl. I don't like making any dates in Mombasa, or let's say in Africa or in South America. You end up waiting for hours, girl says that she is almost here, only 30 minuts, or 10 minuts, and then she comes after four hours, or often, she will at the end close her phone and not come at all. You spend whole day or afternoon waiting for your short time girl.

So if you agree to meet some girl, meet her in some place where there are some other girls available, if she will not come. Like Big Tree. Eagle Nest is still good, there are girls there also.As the Mandalorian would say: This is the way.

[HappyFarang]

I'm curious how it plays out for you with the Tinder conversations. I completely understand what you're going through. If you post an update on how some of the dates with no mention of money went, I'd be very interested to read it.I kinda wish there was a more straightforward way to get sex. No brothels and no massage places: I am forced to play the game. Or maybe it's a good learning experience for me. : the.

Is exchanging numbers a thing in this forum? Haven't seen any going on. I don't have anything to offer at the moment but when I do, I would be happy to swap numbers of easygoing sex-for-money girls. Just for the quick low effort shag.

So this is how it went. I am meeting this girl at my apartment. I was clear about the casual nature of our encounter. We said we would have some delivery food and chill. Before she arrives, she asks whether her friend can stay for a while, because of problems, locked doors etc. I say okay. So my date arrives and she is a beautiful African girl. Lucky! Her friend joins us after a wihle. We all eat and all is cool. Her friend leaves, but she needs money to pay for transport. Okay, I pay. I don't have small bills but it's okay, she says, just give me 1000. I pay. Now she wants to go to go out to have a drink. Really? Ok, let's go.

We take transport and arrive. Now I'll have to be discreet so I won't go into particulars. It's a place outside, lovely. Suddenly her friend from before and another friend (a real goddess) join us. I am made to pay for drinks. I pay. Everyone is very cool, good vibes. Now they want food: I pay? Yes. But it's okay, still a lot cheaper than a sad 1 h SP in London.

It's getting a little late but the vibes are good and her friend is lovely (the other friend left). Now she wants to smoke something il*al. Look, police is walking there. But it's okay because we go in the back. Okay then, I pay? I pay. Brother, I am paying a lot of money. We smoke and I get a little effed. It's late, I am tired. A hint of drama, am I seeing other girls, bla bla. But nothing bad happens.

Her friend has to sleep at my place because of some problems. That's fine, she can stay. We go back, have another smoke which she has as I refuse it, I have already too much paranoia rolling around in my European brain. Ok shall we shag now? Yes, but need money. Okay, I pay again.

The sex was really good, it was an interesting night but I shall NOT repeat it. I paid way over 10 k, tbh I lost track of how much money went into this.

I have another one lined up for tomorrow, will keep you posted.

[Mombie75]

I kinda wish there was a more straightforward way to get sex. No brothels and no massage places: I am forced to play the game. Or maybe it's a good learning experience for me. : the.

Is exchanging numbers a thing in this forum? Haven't seen any going on. I don't have anything to offer at the moment but when I do, I would be happy to swap numbers of easygoing sex-for-money girls. Just for the quick low effort shag.

So this is how it went. I am meeting this girl at my apartment. I was clear about the casual nature of our encounter. We said we would have some delivery food and chill. Before she arrives, she asks whether her friend can stay for a while, because of problems, locked doors etc. I say okay. So my date arrives and she is a beautiful African girl. Lucky! Her friend joins us after a wihle. We all eat and all is cool. Her friend leaves, but she needs money to pay for transport. Okay, I pay. I don't have small bills but it's okay, she says, just give me 1000. I pay. Now she wants to go to go out to have a drink. Really? Ok, let's go.

We take transport and arrive. Now I'll have to be discreet so I won't go into particulars. It's a place outside, lovely. Suddenly her friend from before and another friend (a real goddess) join us. I am made to pay for drinks. I pay. Everyone is very cool, good vibes. Now they want food: I pay? Yes. But it's okay, still a lot cheaper than a sad 1 h SP in London..Ffs. It is not difficult.

Arrange a girl to come to your place. Tell her up front, e. G. "I want one hour fuck," Agree price, 2 or 3 k.

End of move on and repeat with the next one.

[HappyFarang]

One quick question:

Are there places that do traditional *vegan* Kenyan food like ugali etc that is cheap and does take away? Like street food etc.

I want to be able to grab cheap dinner and have it at home. A little like Chinese take away in London.

I see grilled corn on the COB everywhere but nothing more elaborated.

[BPalacio]

I kinda wish there was a more straightforward way to get sex. No brothels and no massage places: I am forced to play the game. Or maybe it's a good learning experience for me. : the.

Is exchanging numbers a thing in this forum? Haven't seen any going on. I don't have anything to offer at the moment but when I do, I would be happy to swap numbers of easygoing sex-for-money girls. Just for the quick low effort shag.

So this is how it went. I am meeting this girl at my apartment. I was clear about the casual nature of our encounter. We said we would have some delivery food and chill. Before she arrives, she asks whether her friend can stay for a while, because of problems, locked doors etc. I say okay. So my date arrives and she is a beautiful African girl. Lucky! Her friend joins us after a wihle. We all eat and all is cool. Her friend leaves, but she needs money to pay for transport. Okay, I pay. I don't have small bills but it's okay, she says, just give me 1000. I pay. Now she wants to go to go out to have a drink. Really? Ok, let's go.

We take transport and arrive. Now I'll have to be discreet so I won't go into particulars. It's a place outside, lovely. Suddenly her friend from before and another friend (a real goddess) join us. I am made to pay for drinks. I pay. Everyone is very cool, good vibes. Now they want food: I pay? Yes. But it's okay, still a lot cheaper than a sad 1 h SP in London.

It's getting a little late but the vibes are good and her friend is lovely (the other friend left). Now she wants to smoke something il*al. Look, police is walking there. But it's okay because we go in the back. Okay then, I pay? I pay. Brother, I am paying a lot of money. We smoke and I get a little effed. It's late, I am tired. A hint of drama, am I seeing other girls, bla bla. But nothing bad happens.

Her friend has to sleep at my place because of some problems. That's fine, she can stay. We go back, have another smoke which she has as I refuse it, I have already too much paranoia rolling around in my European brain. Ok shall we shag now? Yes, but need money. Okay, I pay again.

The sex was really good, it was an interesting night but I shall NOT repeat it. I paid way over 10 k, tbh I lost track of how much money went into this.

I have another one lined up for tomorrow, will keep you posted.It may be comparing apples to oranges, but my method of handling girls in Thailand was not at all like this. We discussed the point of meeting, which for me unequivocally was for sex. I straight up told all the girls that we will fuck and then she gets money. Nothing else was discussed. And that was how things played out every single time. We fucked. I paid.

Now, after the most important part was done and I had post-nut clarity, I was willing to discuss dinner and more traditional date plans. Took some girls out to the movies, out to eat, out to do other fun, non-sexual activities. But the entire time I was in control.

It's my (your) vacation time. If you do not want to do something, don't do it. It's your budget and your money. If you are spending too much / spending on things you do not want to spend on, stop these girls before they initiate any purchases.

If there are friends involved (I. E. More mouths to feed) and you hadn't previously agreed to them entering the picture, why in the world would you pay for them? This is like one of the most blatant, most unabashed acts of taking advantage of you. If you had a fun time and you were agreeable to the friends being there regardless of the added expense, then no problem. If you were just burdened by their presence, financially or otherwise, you have the right to call it out or at least cut your losses.

It sounds to me like that Tinder girl was testing you to see how much money she could scrub from you, either through being directly paid or through being treated out. I think you need to reevaluate the power dynamic here.

Explicitly stated, YOU (should be, at least) are in control.

[Mombie75]

One quick question:

Are there places that do traditional *vegan* Kenyan food like ugali etc that is cheap and does take away? Like street food etc.

I want to be able to grab cheap dinner and have it at home. A little like Chinese take away in London.

I see grilled corn on the COB everywhere but nothing more elaborated.Sweet potato or Sweetcorn (maize as they call it) many locals cook on the grills.

Sukuma or Mchicha (Spinach) Beans (Maharagwe or Githiri) are the only vegan foods I know you can get locally in many places. The local stalls / restaurants all sell these foods where the locals eat. You need to ask a few people to point you at them.

Maybe better off taking a plastic container and taking it off with you.

[Neddy69]

I kinda wish there was a more straightforward way to get sex. No brothels and no massage places: I am forced to play the game. Or maybe it's a good learning experience for me. : the.

Is exchanging numbers a thing in this forum? Haven't seen any going on. I don't have anything to offer at the moment but when I do, I would be happy to swap numbers of easygoing sex-for-money girls. Just for the quick low effort shag.

So this is how it went. I am meeting this girl at my apartment. I was clear about the casual nature of our encounter. We said we would have some delivery food and chill. Before she arrives, she asks whether her friend can stay for a while, because of problems, locked doors etc. I say okay. So my date arrives and she is a beautiful African girl. Lucky! Her friend joins us after a wihle. We all eat and all is cool. Her friend leaves, but she needs money to pay for transport. Okay, I pay. I don't have small bills but it's okay, she says, just give me 1000. I pay. Now she wants to go to go out to have a drink. Really? Ok, let's go.

We take transport and arrive. Now I'll have to be discreet so I won't go into particulars. It's a place outside, lovely. Suddenly her friend from before and another friend (a real goddess) join us. I am made to pay for drinks. I pay. Everyone is very cool, good vibes. Now they want food: I pay? Yes. But it's okay, still a lot cheaper than a sad 1 h SP in London.

It's getting a little late but the vibes are good and her friend is lovely (the other friend left). Now she wants to smoke something il*al. Look, police is walking there. But it's okay because we go in the back. Okay then, I pay? I pay. Brother, I am paying a lot of money. We smoke and I get a little effed. It's late, I am tired. A hint of drama, am I seeing other girls, bla bla. But nothing bad happens.

Her friend has to sleep at my place because of some problems. That's fine, she can stay. We go back, have another smoke which she has as I refuse it, I have already too much paranoia rolling around in my European brain. Ok shall we shag now? Yes, but need money. Okay, I pay again.

The sex was really good, it was an interesting night but I shall NOT repeat it. I paid way over 10 k, tbh I lost track of how much money went into this.

I have another one lined up for tomorrow, will keep you posted.They took you for a ride. They try to invite all their friends to finance food and evening entertainments. Typical rookie mistakes. Be careful when you smoke. It can be a Setup. Police is happy to relieve you of more of KES. Try to chew Muguka instead of smoking bhangi which is illegal. Keep it strict to business. Jiggi jiggi pesa ngapi? Finish.

Mwalimu.

[Dragan69]

Well, I'll be in Mombasa (Bamburi) in January. First time there. Been in Nairobi for a while and the ladies were incredible hot. So I hope to have a few weeks of fun at the beach side this time.

I was already on AfroIntro but 99% of the ladies there are way too serious. But one hotty was straight, saying, she wants a sugar daddy. The rest is looking for a white price riding them up north or pay money in advance to keep the "romance" going until you arrive. LOL. So, I will try Tinder in December only, to have a few freelancers ready on my arrival.

I hope you don't mind if I ask a few silly new-comer questions:

1) Actual places (Monday till Sunday) to pick-up good looking freelancers?

2) Nairobi girls are happy in the range of 2-3 k short-term and 10 k overnight, how about Mombasa ladies?

3) Where to send a girl to get her tested? Not only HIV quick test but the whole range.

Thanks guys for helping me out.

[Mombie75]

1) Actual places (Monday till Sunday) to pick-up good looking freelancers?

They are anywhere and everywhere, streets, shops, clubs, supermarket, they are all freelancers and liars, every single one of them.

2) Nairobi girls are happy in the range of 2-3 k short-term and 10 k overnight, how about Mombasa ladies?

20 years in Kenya I always pay 2-3 k short term. I never take overnight but if I did I would add 1 k as it is most likely I will feed and water them evening and morning.

3) Where to send a girl to get her tested? Not only HIV quick test but the whole range.

No idea, sorry.

[Slowalk]

I am forced to play the game. Or maybe it's a good learning experience for me. :
The sex was really good, it was an interesting night but I shall NOT repeat it. I paid way over 10 k, tbh I lost track of how much money went into this.
I have another one lined up for tomorrow, will keep you posted.Good for you. The first time I came to Africa, my experience was much worse. The game here is part of it. Don't be in a hurry.

[John Auro]

Well, I'll be in Mombasa (Bamburi) in January. First time there. Been in Nairobi for a while and the ladies were incredible hot. So I hope to have a few weeks of fun at the beach side this time.

I was already on AfroIntro but 99% of the ladies there are way too serious. But one hotty was straight, saying, she wants a sugar daddy. The rest is looking for a white price riding them up north or pay money in advance to keep the "romance" going until you arrive. LOL. So, I will try Tinder in December only, to have a few freelancers ready on my arrival.

I hope you don't mind if I ask a few silly new-comer questions:

1) Actual places (Monday till Sunday) to pick-up good looking freelancers?

2) Nairobi girls are happy in the range of 2-3 k short-term and 10 k overnight, how about Mombasa ladies?

3) Where to send a girl to get her tested? Not only HIV quick test but the whole range.

Thanks guys for helping me out.1) They are all freelancers if they see a chance to be with you!

So need for special places, it can be the girl who sells shirts at the beach, it can be the girl who sells you a cheeseburger, just give her your phone number and let her know thar you want to meet her! LOL.

2) girls staying in Mombasa are often from Nairobi or upcountry so not much difference. So prices might be same or less!

But 10 k is much too much anyhow, never give more than 5 k!!

3) Getting to get a girl tested! I hardly doubt any girl will agree to get tested!

Whats the problem takeing a condom. How you want to get tested all this shit, syphilis, herpes, clamydia, gonorhoe, lues, and others!

And if she becomes your regular, you have still time to find out about her health.

Auro.

[Dragan69]

LOL. Thank you guys for replying but maybe we should first agree on the term „Freelancer"? To me, a Freelancer is not just any girl around the corner who wants me to take her out nor wasting time playing games. The ones I look for is a 2 minute talk for pure paid action. Unless you're trying to tell me that EVERY SINGLE girl in Kenya is a cheap hooker.

[Mombie75]

LOL. Thank you guys for replying but maybe we should first agree on the term Freelancer"? To me, a Freelancer is not just any girl around the corner who wants me to take her out nor wasting time playing games. The ones I look for is a 2 minute talk for pure paid action. Unless you're trying to tell me that EVERY SINGLE girl in Kenya is a cheap hooker.Essentially there is no such things as a hooker, freelancer or whatever in Kenya. 9/10 woman will fust fuck for $$$ they are all money hungry. Does not matter if she is a Lawyer, Pizza maker, Policewoman, unemployed. You will not know their job unless you see them actually doing it. You will not know if they are married or have kids unless you are there at the church or hospital when it happens. They always tell lies.

TIA (this is Africa).

[Neddy69]

LOL. Thank you guys for replying but maybe we should first agree on the term Freelancer"? To me, a Freelancer is not just any girl around the corner who wants me to take her out nor wasting time playing games. The ones I look for is a 2 minute talk for pure paid action. Unless you're trying to tell me that EVERY SINGLE girl in Kenya is a cheap hooker.The truth is more complex. First of all. To fuck is like brushing teeth. The way it should be all over the world. You give it to her good she'll reciprocate. Lick pussy. Make her come a couple if times. You'll enjoy. But. That doesn't mean she doesn't appreciate a contribution to her expenses. Money is always welcome. But no need to pay funny money. The Wazungu already pays premium rate. Ask your janitor. He'll pay 300 to 500 KES for the same pussy you pay 1000 to 2000 KES. But any girl will be happy if she finds a dumb tourist who pays western rates for pussy. Since the advent of the internet the girls know exactly what kind of rates you pay in sex prison. So some enterprising msichanas will try to collect the magic 100 $ note. Don't fall for it. I move on. There's just a sweeter pussy down the road. It's a buyers market. Millions are waiting.

Mwalimu.

[Radical Guy]

I don't know why so many guys look for the bottom of the barrel when they tell girls they want only sex. I agree that there are many girls who will jump at that chance, but I prefer to give the illusion that I'm open to the possibility of a long term relationship. This enables a lot of girls to save face, while everyone knows that their panties will come off just as quickly as those who expressly look for "fun only" arrangements.

I don't exactly lie to girls, but when we start chatting, I'll let on that I'm open to anything if the "right one" comes along. This motivates the girls to do everything they can to persuade me that they are the "right one. " Sure, maybe I'm a heal for this approach, but everyone lies in Kenya, right? The result is a much hotter girlfriend experience, rather than some cold, mechanical sex-only transaction. Almost all of these girls don't ask for money, though I will give them modest gifts of cash for "transportation," or whatever.

Thus, I see no benefit in shutting down girls on Afro Introductions or Tinder who claim to be looking for love and a long term relationship. Who knows what could happen, right? But in the meantime, we can have some terrific getting-to-know-you shagging. Works for me, though occasionally some girls do act heartbroken.

RG.

[John Auro]

LOL. Thank you guys for replying but maybe we should first agree on the term Freelancer"? To me, a Freelancer is not just any girl around the corner who wants me to take her out nor wasting time playing games. The ones I look for is a 2 minute talk for pure paid action. Unless you're trying to tell me that EVERY SINGLE girl in Kenya is a cheap hooker.Hey Man,

You are in holiday, what you want to do all day when you are not taking the girl for a coffee or spend some time with her, or let her be at your place for a while.

In this country there are no newspapers for you, no interesting TV programs, nothing what you are used to kill time at home.

So just run around with one of these girls.

[Mombie75]

Hey Man,

You are in holiday, what you want to do all day when you are not taking the girl for a coffee or spend some time with her, or let her be at your place for a while.

In this country there are no newspapers for you, no interesting TV programs, nothing what you are used to kill time at home.

So just run around with one of these girls.Maybe because 90% of them can not hold a decent conversation, it gets boring pretty quick. This is what I find or maybe it is because I have been here 20 years.

I collect numbers as I move around. I am up front and tell them I want 1-2 hours and I pay X. I know what I am getting and so does the girl. Never had a problem with it.

But, horses for courses they say.

[Slowalk]

LOL. Unless you're trying to tell me that EVERY SINGLE girl in Kenya is a cheap hooker.and a liar.

[Coupe66]

I've never been to sub-saharan Africa but I'm into curvy black women more than any other type, so it seems dumb I've never been there! Off the top of my head and having done some research places to visit for mongering would be Mombasa Kenya, Accra Ghana, or maybe Eithiopia, Cameroon or Zambia? Or maybe the obvious places aren't the places to go? For example when I look at YouTube clips of Medellin I laugh because these are just the the obvious touristy / mongering places whereas when you've been there you definitely know better! So maybe that's the same thing I'm seeing when I look at Accra for example, as someone who's never been there?

My criteria are somewhere safe (daytime / night time? Not too culturally alien to me, where I can at least get by eating some familiar simple things, and with a decent amount of very curvy women in general & reasonably priced hookers who do what they say they'll do.

I also have the impression, possibly wrongly that average women in those countries are more open to being chatted up and screwing for some extra cash than in most other countries. But maybe that's just a false internet preconception? I'm sure every country is different, so which what which ones are more permissive?

I've been to Colombia six times, like the place but would like to try something new. In most of the major cities there, you don't find many black women (maybe 10 % max). Colombian women are friendly and willing in general but I don't find them that gorgeous.

Funny though how all these questions I'm asking here just come as second nature to me in Colombia, which makes me realize I know practically nothing about sub-saharan Africa!

In Accra for example I saw some YouTube clips of walking along Oxford Street at night and I would have screwed at least half of those hookers. Re websites, are the women I see on websites for real or is a lot of promotion / bait and switch? Because I saw one photo of the pornstar Maserati who was supposedly a Mombasa hooker, so I lost faith in that website! The women on the website looked too good to be true in general which is usually a sign that they are!

Anyway I've been to some developing countries plenty of times, I'm not naive and don't need all my creature comforts but would a guy in his 50's cope somewhere like Accra, Mombasa or Addis Ababa? Or if you can think of other cities or countries that would suit me better please let me know! Sorry for all the questions.

[Mombie75]

I've never been to sub-saharan Africa but I'm into curvy black women more than any other type, so it seems dumb I've never been there! Off the top of my head and having done some research places to visit for mongering would be Mombasa Kenya, Accra Ghana, or maybe Eithiopia, Cameroon or Zambia? Or maybe the obvious places aren't the places to go? For example when I look at YouTube clips of Medellin I laugh because these are just the the obvious touristy / mongering places whereas when you've been there you definitely know better! So maybe that's the same thing I'm seeing when I look at Accra for example, as someone who's never been there?

My criteria are somewhere safe (daytime / night time? Not too culturally alien to me, where I can at least get by eating some familiar simple things, and with a decent amount of very curvy women in general & reasonably priced hookers who do what they say they'll do.I have been to several African countries. I find West Africa has more curvy women but for me Kenya is so user friendly. English speaking, Mombasa is safe, easy to navigate, cheap. Website, why bother? You won't ever have a problem finding women in Africa unless you stay in your hotel.

Kenya is an easy starting point for an Africa newbie.

[Coupe66]

I have been to several African countries. I find West Africa has more curvy women but for me Kenya is so user friendly. English speaking, Mombasa is safe, easy to navigate, cheap. Website, why bother? You won't ever have a problem finding women in Africa unless you stay in your hotel.

Kenya is an easy starting point for an Africa newbie.Thanks for the advice! Have you also been to Ghana, is it more hectic and disorganized there then Kenya? I never really use online sites, but checking Afrointroductions is a good way to see the looks of the women, and I can definitely see that Ghana women are amongst the curviest in Africa! Are the women in Mombasa easily approachable? Is it acceptable to just chat up / ask out a woman you meet in a store etc? Is it mainly Christian or also Muslim too? Is sex not a big deal there, a pretty permissive society or not? I have no idea!

[Reiner Otto]

Easy to pick up ladies in MBA. Favourite place is Big Tree (day time, early evening) or Casaurina ( 11 PM) . Personally I use Tinder, good success rate.

Also a good place is Safari Inn, Tuesday and Friday, with Live Music.

[Mombie75]

Have you also been to Ghana, is it more hectic and disorganized there then Kenya?

Yes. Trickier to move around, it would be as I only went once and did not know the place. Like Nairobi it is more spread out, where as Mombasa is so simple, one road, if you get lost your in the ocean.

I never really use online sites, but checking Afrointroductions is a good way to see the looks of the women, and I can definitely see that Ghana women are amongst the curviest in Africa! Are the women in Mombasa easily approachable?

Africans and indeed in Mombasa are for the vast part very approachable. Tinder, afrointroductions, badoo your best if you want onljne imo.

Is it acceptable to just chat up / ask out a woman you meet in a store etc? Is it mainly Christian or also Muslim too? Is sex not a big deal there, a pretty permissive society or not? I have no idea!

Chat up any women, anytime, anywhere. TIA (this is africa). Christian 85%. Sex is like getting on / off a bus, It is no big deal.

[Slowalk]

Thanks for the advice! Have you also been to Ghana, is it more hectic and disorganized there then Kenya? I never really use online sites, but checking Afrointroductions is a good way to see the looks of the women, and I can definitely see that Ghana women are amongst the curviest in Africa! Are the women in Mombasa easily approachable? Is it acceptable to just chat up / ask out a woman you meet in a store etc? Is it mainly Christian or also Muslim too? Is sex not a big deal there, a pretty permissive society or not? I have no idea!Don't judge Ghanian ladies by AfroIntroductions. A very large percentage of the adds from Ghana especially, are pure frauds with photos from the web. Just look at the backgrounds. They are not anywhere near Africa much less Ghana. Ghana is smaller that Kenya and NOT more hectic and disorganized. Still, it is especially for first timers. I felt easier in ACC and NBO than I ever did in JFK & LGA or worse, France's CDG and Philippines' Ninoy Aquino MNL.

[Oiste]

It seems someone is going to try again to open the New Cheers.Does anyone know the situation between Bora Bora Cheers and Mtwapa following the construction of the new road? They tell me that the situation is complicated but I would like certain information to decide whether to book a house in Nyali instead of Mtwapa.

[Zimzam]

Does anyone know the situation between Bora Bora Cheers and Mtwapa following the construction of the new road? They tell me that the situation is complicated but I would like certain information to decide whether to book a house in Nyali instead of Mtwapa.As they are building the new road most of the stretch between Mtwapa and Bamburi junction is a detour now.

The temporary road is quite uncomfortable and I would say even less safe than before, as everyone wants to be the first, as usual.

It is possible to go to Cheers, Big Tree etc. But you have to watch good to see the exit.

[Sleip]

Hello,

Plan a short trip next week for 4 days.

Will stay at Kahama Hotel.

Are there recently strip clubs in Mwtapa / Bamburi like Lollipop 15 years ago?

I know that action is at Casaurina at night but also I like such clubs.

[Neddy69]

Hello,

Plan a short trip next week for 4 days.

Will stay at Kahama Hotel.

Are there recently strip clubs in Mwtapa / Bamburi like Lollipop 15 years ago?

I know that action is at Casaurina at night but also I like such clubs.There's none. Lollipop is a Swahili Restaurant now. As I mentioned before. Nightlife is dead. Gone are the days where Ugandan strippers danced on the table in Kendas. Now there's only slick "sports bars".

The last down and dirty African hooker bar is Naiz. Almost empty. People have no money. The government is bleeding the Kenyans dry. Casuarina still exists. They build a Casino for Money laundering besides. No idea who goes in there. I figure on coast you'll never get a licence for a strip club. Too much Muslim. Go to Nairobi. Even in the old days Lollipop was the only licensed stripclub. Belonged to the same German who ran Tembo. Tempos passados my friend. No package tourists. Coast is continuing on its downward trend since 2007. Now the government is driving the last nails in the coffin. From January 1st 100 US Dollars for eVisa. Do it before years end.

Mwalimu.

[Oiste]

There's none. Lollipop is a Swahili Restaurant now. As I mentioned before. Nightlife is dead. Gone are the days where Ugandan strippers danced on the table in Kendas. Now there's only slick "sports bars".

The last down and dirty African hooker bar is Naiz. Almost empty. People have no money. The government is bleeding the Kenyans dry. Casuarina still exists. They build a Casino for Money laundering besides. No idea who goes in there. I figure on coast you'll never get a licence for a strip club. Too much Muslim. Go to Nairobi. Even in the old days Lollipop was the only licensed stripclub. Belonged to the same German who ran Tembo. Tempos passados my friend. No package tourists. Coast is continuing on its downward trend since 2007. Now the government is driving the last nails in the coffin. From January 1st 100 US Dollars for eVisa. Do it before years end.

Mwalimu.Anything in this world and it's also a good thing otherwise it would be boring. Kenya has changed Mombasa has changed but the young people who arrive in Kenya today don't care what the situation was 20 years ago. These are tears of nostalgia of those who love to give themselves too much importance. Even in Cuba it was different when Christopher Columbus saw it. The new tourists who arrive go to the beach then go to any café or pub, meet one of the thousands of wonderful African gazelles and fall asleep with a smile at night. They probably have more fun than watching a Ugandan working girl dance on tables. Everyone has fun in their own way if they can afford a terrible Price of $100 visa.

[Taurus1]

Anything in this world and it's also a good thing otherwise it would be boring. Kenya has changed Mombasa has changed but the young people who arrive in Kenya today don't cSaare what the situation was 20 years ago. These are tears of nostalgia of those who love to give themselves too much importance. Even in Cuba it was different when Christopher Columbus saw it. The new tourists who arrive go to the beach then go to any caf or pub, meet one of the thousands of wonderful African gazelles and fall asleep with a smile at night. They probably have more fun than watching a Ugandan working girl dance on tables. Everyone has fun in their own way if they can afford a terrible Price of $100 visa.Oiste.

You are very blessed that you can tap the reservoir of the thousands of wonderful African gazelles at the North Coast. The regular monger nowadays rotates between Big Tree, Cheers, Casuarina and Safari Inn with around 50 to 100 hard core girls usually, more when special events. Quite seedy. Anyway when a guy has game he may prefer to hunt in the South Coast. Obviously more expensive.

During the good old days of the roaring tourist boom with the higher class hotels and the package hotels of the African Safari Club with full occupancy there were up to more then 20000 foreign tourists constantly over the place North of Mombasa plus the Italians in Malindi. For the night life many tourists were leaving the hotels because cheaper and more adventurous. Obviously the ladies were around and they mingled with the consequent result. If even only 5% indulged in sex, and many of them hooked up then you have a growing monger colony, getting hard core with the time but refilled constantly with newcomers from both sides, I. E. a constant supply of new younger talents. Therefore the myths of the rich white man or woman for short time milking or more seeked permanent one. Therefore many beautiful women from the Highlands were flocking to the Coast to get employment and the meager pay was secondary because the main goal was to catch a muzungu. Obviously after many unsuccessful attempts leaving only to short term relationships the shift went to earn some money to upgrade the lifestyle and send some money to the family. At that time there was hard party time and money spent easily as the Euro and the salaries were higher in Europe and prices low in Kenya. Many of the tourist made safaris or other high end activities so the girls could enjoy high style entertainment. Despite the crumbling of the foreign tourism the myths of the rich white man as a "good" husband persist to the profit of the mongers of the actuality. From that time relationships of 18 to 22 year old woman to over 60 year old men were common. Mombasa was a sort of Mallorca or Ibiza of the German elderlies. The ladies also went in with their Maasai / Samburu lovers. The.

[Neddy69]

Oiste.

You are very blessed that you can tap the reservoir of the thousands of wonderful African gazelles at the North Coast. The regular monger nowadays rotates between Big Tree, Cheers, Casuarina and Safari Inn with around 50 to 100 hard core girls usually, more when special events. Quite seedy. Anyway when a guy has game he may prefer to hunt in the South Coast. Obviously more expensive.

During the good old days of the roaring tourist boom with the higher class hotels and the package hotels of the African Safari Club with full occupancy there were up to more then 20000 foreign tourists constantly over the place North of Mombasa plus the Italians in Malindi. For the night life many tourists were leaving the hotels because cheaper and more adventurous. Obviously the ladies were around and they mingled with the consequent result. If even only 5% indulged in sex, and many of them hooked up then you have a growing monger colony, getting hard core with the time but refilled constantly with newcomers from both sides, I. E. a constant supply of new younger talents. Therefore the myths of the rich white man or woman for short time milking or more seeked permanent one. Therefore many beautiful women from the Highlands were flocking to the Coast to get employment and the meager pay was secondary because the main goal was to catch a muzungu. Obviously after many unsuccessful attempts leaving only to short term relationships the shift went to earn some money to upgrade the lifestyle and send some money to the family. At that time there was hard party time and money spent easily as the Euro and the salaries were higher in Europe and prices low in Kenya. Many of the tourist made safaris or other high end activities so the girls could enjoy high style entertainment. Despite the crumbling of the foreign tourism the myths of the rich white man as a "good" husband persist to the profit of the mongers of the actuality. From that time relationships of 18 to 22 year old woman to over 60 year old men were common. Mombasa was a sort of Mallorca or Ibiza of the German elderlies. The ladies also went in with their Maasai / Samburu lovers. The.I couldn't have formulated it better. I'm not taking about getting women. I get all the women I want. I was talking about the nightlife which went down the drain. The last nail in the coffin was COVID. I don't need night life to get one of the 50 to 100 hard core Malayas. As for our Friend Oiste. I unfortunately can't read his irrelevant posts. I ignored him already a year ago. LOL. I figure his English is not good enough to have a sensible conversation.

Mwalimu.

[Oiste]

Oiste.

You are very blessed that you can tap the reservoir of the thousands of wonderful African gazelles at the North Coast. The regular monger nowadays rotates between Big Tree, Cheers, Casuarina and Safari Inn with around 50 to 100 hard core girls usually, more when special events. Quite seedy. Anyway when a guy has game he may prefer to hunt in the South Coast. Obviously more expensive.

During the good old days of the roaring tourist boom with the higher class hotels and the package hotels of the African Safari Club with full occupancy there were up to more then 20000 foreign tourists constantly over the place North of Mombasa plus the Italians in Malindi. For the night life many tourists were leaving the hotels because cheaper and more adventurous. Obviously the ladies were around and they mingled with the consequent result. If even only 5% indulged in sex, and many of them hooked up then you have a growing monger colony, getting hard core with the time but refilled constantly with newcomers from both sides, I. E. a constant supply of new younger talents. Therefore the myths of the rich white man or woman for short time milking or more seeked permanent one. Therefore many beautiful women from the Highlands were flocking to the Coast to get employment and the meager pay was secondary because the main goal was to catch a muzungu. Obviously after many unsuccessful attempts leaving only to short term relationships the shift went to earn some money to upgrade the lifestyle and send some money to the family. At that time there was hard party time and money spent easily as the Euro and the salaries were higher in Europe and prices low in Kenya. Many of the tourist made safaris or other high end activities so the girls could enjoy high style entertainment. Despite the crumbling of the foreign tourism the myths of the rich white man as a "good" husband persist to the profit of the mongers of the actuality. From that time relationships of 18 to 22 year old woman to over 60 year old men were common. Mombasa was a sort of Mallorca or Ibiza of the German elderlies. The ladies also went in with their Maasai / Samburu lovers. The.This depends on everyone's tastes, I like meeting women in everyday life, on the street at the supermarket or things like that. Probably a percentage will be the same as what you can find at Cheers or Casaurina but I've never liked going into a nightclub full of working girls to get one and start arguing about the price. I also find the same African working girls in my country, I find it very squalid to look for a brothel to be able to fuck. But here too it depends from person to person. There are men who want to play it safe and good for them. But I also like the game and the game with a 2000 shilling working girl is not there. That's why I say that there are thousands of sweet gazelles but you have to know how to look for them, and at the big tree there are only lionesses.

[MadDin19]

This depends on everyone's tastes, I like meeting women in everyday life, on the street at the supermarket or things like that. Probably a percentage will be the same as what you can find at Cheers or Casaurina but I've never liked going into a nightclub full of working girls to get one and start arguing about the price. I also find the same African working girls in my country, I find it very squalid to look for a brothel to be able to fuck. But here too it depends from person to person. There are men who want to play it safe and good for them. But I also like the game and the game with a 2000 shilling working girl is not there. That's why I say that there are thousands of sweet gazelles but you have to know how to look for them, and at the big tree there are only lionesses.I agree with you 100%. I don't need strip bars or brothels. I have three times more sex in Mombasa than in Pattaya, sex is tree times better and only costs half.

Anyone who mourns the "good old days" is missing out on life. You live today and in the future. But not in the past.

BTW: You forgot to mention Tinder and Badoo.

[Oiste]

I agree with you 100%. I don't need strip bars or brothels. I have three times more sex in Mombasa than in Pattaya, sex is tree times better and only costs half.

Anyone who mourns the "good old days" is missing out on life. You live today and in the future. But not in the past.

BTW: You forgot to mention Tinder and Badoo.Yes, but I prefer meeting girls on the street because I can get a more precise idea. I don't speak English well, I know but everyone understands me. I lived over 10 years in Brazil, about fifteen in Cuba. These are all places that today are a bad copy of the past. Yet I would feel like an idiot if I said that nightlife in those places is over. Those who come for the first time don't care about how it was 20 years ago. Our Hungarian friend and his advices from discount stores are very pathetic. Only losers go to brothels and strip clubs.

[MadDin19]

Only losers go to brothels and strip clubs.LOL. Funny, but I agree.

[AttilaTheHun]

This depends on everyone's tastes, I like meeting women in everyday life, on the street at the supermarket or things like that. Probably a percentage will be the same as what you can find at Cheers or Casaurina but I've never liked going into a nightclub full of working girls to get one and start arguing about the price. I also find the same African working girls in my country, I find it very squalid to look for a brothel to be able to fuck. But here too it depends from person to person. There are men who want to play it safe and good for them. But I also like the game and the game with a 2000 shilling working girl is not there. That's why I say that there are thousands of sweet gazelles but you have to know how to look for them, and at the big tree there are only lionesses.I don't go to a "nightclub full of working girls to get one and start arguing about the price" NO! I go there to listen to music (also live bands) and watch the girls dancing etc. I enjoy the vibe. The same way, I enjoy a street side cafe at a busy corner watching people pass by. This is Africa. I get fully immersed in African life and culture, and enjoy it. Every day is an adventure.

[Oiste]

I don't go to a "nightclub full of working girls to get one and start arguing about the price" NO! I go there to listen to music (also live bands) and watch the girls dancing etc. I enjoy the vibe. The same way, I enjoy a street side cafe at a busy corner watching people pass by. This is Africa. I get fully immersed in African life and culture, and enjoy it. Every day is an adventure.That's what I think, I speak English badly but I've been lucky enough to travel all my life. The working girls of Nairobi are the same as those of Pattaya, Havana or Sao Paulo. If they dance on my table showing me their pussy it's all sadness. It means I'm really a poor old man. No! I walk the streets, speak my bad English and talk to people. I talk to girls and I find thousands of them. But going to any Kendas to pick up a Ugandan working girl or finding the same **** at the big tree that I saw the night before at the Safari Inn and negotiating the price is really pathetic. But I don't condemn the people who like all this, everyone sees it in their own way, the important thing is not to repeatedly piss you off with this story of dead nightlife in Mombasa because it's not true.

[AttilaTheHun]

That's what I think, I speak English badly but I've been lucky enough to travel all my life. The working girls of Nairobi are the same as those of Pattaya, Havana or Sao Paulo. If they dance on my table showing me their pussy it's all sadness. It means I'm really a poor old man. No! I walk the streets, speak my bad English and talk to people. I talk to girls and I find thousands of them. But going to any Kendas to pick up a Ugandan working girl or finding the same **** at the big tree that I saw the night before at the Safari Inn and negotiating the price is really pathetic. But I don't condemn the people who like all this, everyone sees it in their own way, the important thing is not to repeatedly piss you off with this story of dead nightlife in Mombasa because it's not true.You are paying for pussy, one way or another. And yes, you negotiate expenses all the time in life. Whether she is the daughter of a pastor or the one shaking her booty for you on the table. I tried it in the Philippines and realized I had more fun with the waitresses than the bar girls. Just better return on my investment of time and money. Since then, I don't even try to hire pros. But it doesn't stop me from watching them. I still pay for pussy, but indirectly, just as all men do! In Africa just like in South East Asia girls are using sex as a natural trade a currency weather you acknowledge it or not. The same girl who would bang a young stud for free still needs funds from a beta provider. It's called the duality of female dating strategy. If you are the one who is getting it for free, then congratulation. However, for the remaining 95% of men, the rules are made by nature. Just like penguins and other primates, people trade sex for resources. Hard-wired, and persist no matter how much wealth, resources or security that people obtain. Men are more likely to attempt to exchange investment for sex, females are more likely to attempt to exchange sex for investment.

[SuperChuck]

That's what I think, I speak English badly but I've been lucky enough to travel all my life. The working girls of Nairobi are the same as those of Pattaya, Havana or Sao Paulo. If they dance on my table showing me their pussy it's all sadness. It means I'm really a poor old man. No! I walk the streets, speak my bad English and talk to people. I talk to girls and I find thousands of them. But going to any Kendas to pick up a Ugandan working girl or finding the same **** at the big tree that I saw the night before at the Safari Inn and negotiating the price is really pathetic. But I don't condemn the people who like all this, everyone sees it in their own way, the important thing is not to repeatedly piss you off with this story of dead nightlife in Mombasa because it's not true.I also speak bad English but, who knows why, all women understand me perfectly when I open my wallet.

Then maybe someone likes to talk philosophy with working girls and so studying this language becomes fundamental.

*****s that you can also find in your same country on these days, white yellow and even green.

Fun to go 10,000 miles to meet a working girl but that's okay. It's important not to feel like a university professor.

I also prefer the girls I meet in their everyday life. Some will be the same ones that work at the Casaurina in the evening?

Probably. But working girls are also women. If I meet them as working girls they will be working girls. If I meet them as women they will still be less working girls.

Instead the customer who goes with working girls as such always remains the same.

[Zimzam]

NAIROBI, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Visitors to Kenya from across the world will no longer require a visa from January, President William Ruto said on Tuesday.

Ruto said his government had developed a digital platform to ensure all visitors would receive an electronic travel authorisation in advance, instead of needing to apply for a visa.

Now the question remains: will you have to pay for this "electronic travel authorisation" ?

[Slowalk]

NAIROBI, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Visitors to Kenya from across the world will no longer require a visa from January, President William Ruto said on Tuesday.

Ruto said his government had developed a digital platform to ensure all visitors would receive an electronic travel authorisation in advance, instead of needing to apply for a visa.

Now the question remains: will you have to pay for this "electronic travel authorisation" ?Two months ago, Kenya wanted tourists to pay for "Travel Insurance" at the border. Maybe Dropped.

One month ago, Kenya visa fees double. Maybe Dropped.

Today, the new name for visa is ETA and will coast $30.

In the confusion, immigration agents increase extortion from tourists.

All this right in the peak of tourist season and near government holiday. If I wasn't already in Kenya, I would go elsewhere.

[Zimzam]

More info here:

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/95649-kenya-introduces-ksh4600-fee-electronic-travel-authorization

Some items:

The Kenya Government has further introduced a new fine where people overstaying their allocated duration will pay a Ksh15,000 (USD 100) fee.

Ruto explained that the decision to abolish visa requirements followed the scientific discovery that Turkana County was the cradle of mankind.

[SuperChuck]

More info here:

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/95649-kenya-introduces-ksh4600-fee-electronic-travel-authorization

Some items:

The Kenya Government has further introduced a new fine where people overstaying their allocated duration will pay a Ksh15,000 (USD 100) fee.

Ruto explained that the decision to abolish visa requirements followed the scientific discovery that Turkana County was the cradle of mankind.In the meantime I am now 5 days waiting to receive my online visa, still in preparation.

[HappyFarang]

My holiday in Mombasa is over and I am fairly happy with the outcome. I didn't have a lot of girls. I was happy with one or two per week.

I offered 3000 kes to one girl who would spend the evening and night at my place. I soon realised that if I want sex, I want sex. I don't want to invest a whole evening just to have sex once or twice. She was sweet and a nice person, but the only thing I really wanted was sex. This dating game is not for me.

I started becoming a little bolder on the dating apps. Less laughing faces, more full stops at the end of sentences. Be polite but firm if you don't want to waste time with BS.

I learned to play like this too late in my stay, didn't have many girls like this. I don't even know if it works that well. I gave one girl 6000 kes for "very short time", which is short time one shot. It was the worst sex I ever had. You may end up paying more money for poor service. If you date the girl and take her back to your place, you know she won't be expecting more than 3000 kes.

Overall I loved the energy of Kenyans. Much less neurotic than Europeans, good vibes. The worst people I met were Europeans with stinky attitudes.

Mtwapa is a cozy place. Next time I want to stay closer to the beach, but I wouldn't know where. Nyali beach was nice, and the big shopping mall (Nyali Centre) is very convenient, but I expect rent to be much higher in that area. Staying in Mtwapa and taking Uber everyday is probably much cheaper, but transport is just a pain.

I didn't explore the night life. Didn't even go to Casaurina. Maybe this was a mistake, but I didn't like the vibes I was getting at night. The only night I had was a complete nightmare, I described it in a previous field report.

Coming to Mombasa means you need to get a little tough. This is not SEA. It doesn't feel safe, especially at night. There is no Sinosphere with its set of behavioural rules that maintains the social harmony and provides you with a cozy interface to interact with people. Here you are just a mzungu surrended by tribesmen and women and you talk directly to the man or woman. You feel alone.

My next trip will be in Asia, I don't know where yet. Could be anywhere between India and the Philippines. If you have any suggestion I am listening. .

[Radical Guy]

In the meantime I am now 5 days waiting to receive my online visa, still in preparation.I just received my e-visa, which I applied and paid for last Friday. I'm visiting Kenya in January. I wonder if they'll also make me pay 30 bux for the new travel authorization.

[Mombie75]

My holiday in Mombasa is over and I am fairly happy with the outcome. I didn't have a lot of girls. I was happy with one or two per week.

I offered 3000 kes to one girl who would spend the evening and night at my place. I soon realised that if I want sex, I want sex. I don't want to invest a whole evening just to have sex once or twice. She was sweet and a nice person, but the only thing I really wanted was sex. This dating game is not for me.

I started becoming a little bolder on the dating apps. Less laughing faces, more full stops at the end of sentences. Be polite but firm if you don't want to waste time with BS.

I learned to play like this too late in my stay, didn't have many girls like this. I don't even know if it works that well. I gave one girl 6000 kes for "very short time", which is short time one shot. It was the worst sex I ever had. You may end up paying more money for poor service. If you date the girl and take her back to your place, you know she won't be expecting more than 3000 kes..I stay on Bamburi beach, either Sai Rock or Indiana beach. I find it it much more pleasant than dusty Mtwapa. I just keep a few numbers and call the girls in to me. The odd trip to Mtwapa over my few weeks is enough to find new faces.

[SuperChuck]

My holiday in Mombasa is over and I am fairly happy with the outcome. I didn't have a lot of girls. I was happy with one or two per week.

I offered 3000 kes to one girl who would spend the evening and night at my place. I soon realised that if I want sex, I want sex. I don't want to invest a whole evening just to have sex once or twice. She was sweet and a nice person, but the only thing I really wanted was sex. This dating game is not for me.

I started becoming a little bolder on the dating apps. Less laughing faces, more full stops at the end of sentences. Be polite but firm if you don't want to waste time with BS.

I learned to play like this too late in my stay, didn't have many girls like this. I don't even know if it works that well. I gave one girl 6000 kes for "very short time", which is short time one shot. It was the worst sex I ever had. You may end up paying more money for poor service. If you date the girl and take her back to your place, you know she won't be expecting more than 3000 kes.

Overall I loved the energy of Kenyans. Much less neurotic than Europeans, good vibes. The worst people I met were Europeans with stinky attitudes.

Mtwapa is a cozy place. Next time I want to stay closer to the beach, but I wouldn't know where. Nyali beach was nice, and the big shopping mall (Nyali Centre) is very convenient, but I expect rent to be much higher in that area. Staying in Mtwapa and taking Uber everyday is probably much cheaper, but transport is just a pain.

I didn't explore the night life. Didn't even go to Casaurina. Maybe this was a mistake, but I didn't like the vibes I was getting at night. The only night I had was a complete nightmare, I described it in a previous field report.

Coming to Mombasa means you need to get a little tough. This is not SEA. It doesn't feel safe, especially at night. There is no Sinosphere with its set of behavioural rules that maintains the social harmony and provides you with a cozy interface to interact with people. Here you are just a mzungu surrended by tribesmen and women and you talk directly to the man or woman. You feel alone.

My next trip will be in Asia, I don't know where yet. Could be anywhere between India and the Philippines. If you have any suggestion I am listening. .Good review. Can I just ask how was the road to Nyali during the day? Traffic impossible or acceptable (given the work in progress)?