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Cebu Local
09-21-05, 13:06
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Nice Guy 99
09-22-05, 04:21
Could someone please tell me how to have sex in China?
Ohhh ... and what is th exchange rate????
John Siron
09-22-05, 04:47
How to have sex in China:
1. Meet girl
2. Take pictures to share with us
3. Take girl to private place ie hotel room
4. Get girl to take clothes off (or you can do it for/with her)
5. Take pictures to share with us
6. Get girl to take off your clothes
7. Get BBBJ
8. Take pictures to share with us
9. DATY if you like
10. Do it Sugar Baba style
11. Take pictures to share with us
12. Pay girl
13. Take pictures to share with us
14. Kick girl out of your room
15. Repeat steps 1 to 14 if your Viagra/Cialis is still functioning
Exchange Rate: www.oanda.com
Could someone please tell me how to have sex in China?
Ohhh ... and what is th exchange rate????
Could someone please tell me how to have sex in China?
Well, the intercourse part is basically about the same as in other countries. You know what "intercourse" is, don't you?
Bob Builder
09-22-05, 12:19
Can't you guys spot someone winding you up when you see it?
Buddy, if you are asking this question, does that mean you Chinese wife is still a virgin?
Tinybobo1002
09-23-05, 01:05
How to have sex in China:
1. Meet girl
2. Take pictures to share with us
3. Take girl to private place ie hotel room
4. Get girl to take clothes off (or you can do it for/with her)
5. Take pictures to share with us
6. Get girl to take off your clothes
7. Get BBBJ
8. Take pictures to share with us
9. DATY if you like
10. Do it Sugar Baba style
11. Take pictures to share with us
12. Pay girl
13. Take pictures to share with us
14. Kick girl out of your room
15. Repeat steps 1 to 14 if your Viagra/Cialis is still functioning
Exchange Rate: www.oanda.com
If you are Clinton, you need a cigar to have sex in China. How do I do It? I put mine into hers.
How to have sex in China ? So, your mother didn't explain you a few things ?
As for exchange rate, it is : give me the mobile phone number of your last chick, I will give you mine.
I have just noticed something that could count in some way as a kind of official recognition of prostitution in this country. In a medium size city of South China, I recently entered a large BBS in the local red light district. A kind of sex factory, where a douzen girls where available for pick up. The mamasan was busy giving them their last HIV free certificate, along with their ID card. Seems that the chicks are officially enlisted, at least by some health department, with their ID card logged, and checked on a regular basis. That seems to go with the new view of the Peking government to acknowledge the industry, so that it can deal with health matters, rather than only cracking down on a problem it knows it will never erradicate completely.
Has anyone seen more examples of this ?
Bob Builder
09-24-05, 05:39
They have an ID card as they are employees of a barber shop which is what the official business registration is, not brothel. As prostitution is still officially illegal, I don't think there is a Department of Fucking Affairs that is issuing HIV free certificates. It wold be more a marketing ploy.
I have been to a BBS where the mama say all the girls get regular shots. If there is nothing wrong with them WTF are they getting regular shots for?
Using the US dollar, I estimate my conversion this way:
For every 100RMB, I'm spending $12.50 US.
For every 1000RMB, I'm spending $125.00 US.
It's an approximation. But it gives you a quick guess on the conversion. This is based on 8.25 but I think the rate now is 8.11. Again it's something you can do in your head without a calculator.
So if someone says it's 300RM, I would 3 x 12.50 and get an approximation of $37.50 US.
BTW, the actual rate would be at the bank that you walk into to do the exchange. They vary slightly from bank to bank in China. Never do the exchange at the airport except for just enough for cab or bus fare.
Bill
I have never been to China before. This question goes out to some of the experienced Players in China; what is the going rate in dollars? Thanks members.
Bill Lee,
The exchange rate is fixed by the Bank of China every day here, so if you change in your (bigger) hotel or airport, its the same rate that day. The only way to get a better rate is if you change money with someone that needs USD, but this is risky unless you know what you are doing.
Or bring some US traveller checks, these can be cashed for RMB at a higher rate than cash.
Generally you pay an extra fee for traveller's cheque.
I have done blackmarket exchange. Not worth the trouble. You don't know if you're getting counterfeit RMB. The worst part is that the f*cking exchange guy was taking a minute each looking at my benjamins. And not that much more on the blackmarket.
BTW, I thought that hotels and other Chinese banks vary slightly like 8.11??. The ?? being the differences.
Bill
Bill Lee,
The exchange rate is fixed by the Bank of China every day here, so if you change in your (bigger) hotel or airport, its the same rate that day. The only way to get a better rate is if you change money with someone that needs USD, but this is risky unless you know what you are doing.
Or bring some US traveller checks, these can be cashed for RMB at a higher rate than cash.
Bob builder, I was not believing what other people told me, as I saw it myself, and I am fluent in Chinese (including reading). They were not advirtizing it at all, I just happenned to enter the shop when they were dealing with it. I am not saying there is a department monitoring and authorizing prostitutes, just the contrary, an official from Yunnan recently declared on TV that although China was now dealing more practically with the problem, prostitution is illegal in this country. All I say is that they seem, at least in certain provinces (what I saw might be a local policy, which is why you are puzzled about it) have acknowledged the de facto situation and asked their health departments to try and monitor it. By the size of certain red light districts in some medium size cities, it is obvious that not only the local district police station allowes the business, but the mayor office is aware of it and does not oppose it. When you speak to the ''laobaixing'', they talk about ''tolerance areas''. Is that an acknowledgment of weakness from the police (mei banfa...), or a real tolerance policy, I don't know.
Also, I am not suggesting that these HIV free certificates are very secure, like often in China, it might just be a trick from some department to extort some fees from the BBS, but distributing some kind of certificate so that they can operate "legally" is still very different from sending the girls straight to a prison or fining them thousands of yuan.
Bob Builder
09-25-05, 08:50
Erik,
Understood, but they don't happen to screen for other diseases and is that going to lower the amount of protection that you are going to take?
Just like the postings of another monger asking what are the common STDs in China? Isn't the protection for them all the same?
The Sweet Strumpet's reply to the Happy Monger.
Now thy holy pole is up my hole
And I've wiggled my arse to save my soul
Will thou help pay my rent
So I need not live in a tent?
My question is to all of you, especially those who read chinese.
I have reported a few months back a story I read in the N Y Times. The chinese government gave a large financial commitment to stop the spread of HIV, as they did before with SARS. This will include opening hundreds of new health clinics over the next few years, starting with those provinces with the most cases of HIV-AIDS.
Have any of you heard about this? How will this new program effect prostitution? Will the ladies be required to carry healthcards? Is there a program to get mongers also tested? Are they cracking down on barbershops, etc?
Will there be a crackdown agaist prostitution generally? Who is carrying out this program? How much money is the government providing? How will it be spent? What is their game plan? Is there a website? And so on....
In short, how will this affect us? Appreciate any answers.
Bill Lee,
The exchange rate is fixed by the Bank of China every day here, so if you change in your (bigger) hotel or airport, its the same rate that day. The only way to get a better rate is if you change money with someone that needs USD, but this is risky unless you know what you are doing.
Or bring some US traveller checks, these can be cashed for RMB at a higher rate than cash.
Yes, you get a slightly better rate for Traveller Checks but cashing them is a problem. I went to 2 different banks in Southern China, Canton, all of them said no. Then I went to two smaller subbranches of "Bank of China". They told me it can ONLY be cash at the the MAIN "Bank of China" at the Garden Hotel. Most of the damn tellers never seen a Traveller Check before.
It also goes with US ATM cards getting money. I also couldn't believe since I saw the logos for "STAR", "CIRRUS" at the smaller "Bank of China" ATM. I'm not sure about which logos. Then told me the ATM might take my card and NOT return it. There was NO way they could get it back. I still believe I could have gotten money at the smaller subbranch of "Bank of China" but the managers didn't know. I recall the max you can get is $1500RMB for each transaction and $3000RMB total for a day. I think you can request for more but it has to go before a teller. I think it's best NOT to travel with too much cash.
Weelock
If you stay in China regularly or live there, you may open a bank account. You get the best rates if you open an account in the Bank and wire the money in from abroad. Tha Banks have a cash rate and a TT rate. This TT rate is sometimes even better than the black market. HSBC is a good choice, second BOC.
BOC has a very strange policy for changing foreign currencies to RMB: On Saturday / Sunday and chinese public holidays they always use the rate of the last Friday / working day. That sometimes gives very strange rates for non US$ currencies if abroad there is a fluctuation in rates on (only) chinese holidays.
Between HSBC Hong Kong and HSBC China wires take only several hours. And you can wire Foreign currencies back out of China (at least between HSBC own name accounts).
Tiger
Added at 4:18pm
The posting system makes people really look a little stupid. I have posted this report over 2 hours before Brain Damaged posted his, and it looks like he didn't read reports. But my report only showed up a long time after he posted his (due to the revision process for regular members).
Brain Damaged
09-26-05, 05:04
Yes, you get a slightly better rate for Traveller Checks but cashing them is a problem. I went to 2 different banks in Southern China, Canton, all of them said no. Then I went to two smaller subbranches of "Bank of China". They told me it can ONLY be cash at the the MAIN "Bank of China" at the Garden Hotel. Most of the damn tellers never seen a Traveller Check before.
It also goes with US ATM cards getting money. I also couldn't believe since I saw the logos for "STAR", "CIRRUS" at the smaller "Bank of China" ATM. I'm not sure about which logos. Then told me the ATM might take my card and NOT return it. There was NO way they could get it back. I still believe I could have gotten money at the smaller subbranch of "Bank of China" but the managers didn't know. I recall the max you can get is $1500RMB for each transaction and $3000RMB total for a day. I think you can request for more but it has to go before a teller. I think it's best NOT to travel with too much cash.
Weelock
You can also open a local RMB bank account on your passport. A few things to consider before you go this route:
* Branches of a bank in one city may not have computer links to the banks' branches in other cities (branch integration is haphazard).
* You will be staying in China (or returning to China) to make this an efficient way to park your money safely.
I live in Hong Kong and have not had a problem withdrawing cash using HK or US (Plus) ATM cards in China.
YMMV.
Cheers,
BD
In the last year that there has been a lot of money spent on aids education advertising, as you arrive in Kunming airport there is a poster suggesting that you use condoms to protect yourself from AIDS. There is also a lot of AIDS info and condoms in many of the hotels that I have stayed in, all in Yunnan. Perhaps Yunnan has more AIDS posters and radio ads than in other parts of China though.
It seems to me that the Chinese government is now very serious about pushing anti-AIDS education through the mass media.
Heel Lover
09-26-05, 06:30
In the last year that there has been a lot of money spent on aids education advertising, as you arrive in Kunming airport there is a poster suggesting that you use condoms to protect yourself from AIDS. There is also a lot of AIDS info and condoms in many of the hotels that I have stayed in, all in Yunnan. Perhaps Yunnan has more AIDS posters and radio ads than in other parts of China though.
It seems to me that the Chinese government is now very serious about pushing anti-AIDS education through the mass media.
Yes, Yunnan is one of the provinces in China with serious problem of drug abuse, which links to AIDS.
Heel Lover
09-26-05, 06:33
Yes, you get a slightly better rate for Traveller Checks but cashing them is a problem. I went to 2 different banks in Southern China, Canton, all of them said no. Then I went to two smaller subbranches of "Bank of China". They told me it can ONLY be cash at the the MAIN "Bank of China" at the Garden Hotel. Most of the damn tellers never seen a Traveller Check before.
It also goes with US ATM cards getting money. I also couldn't believe since I saw the logos for "STAR", "CIRRUS" at the smaller "Bank of China" ATM. I'm not sure about which logos. Then told me the ATM might take my card and NOT return it. There was NO way they could get it back. I still believe I could have gotten money at the smaller subbranch of "Bank of China" but the managers didn't know. I recall the max you can get is $1500RMB for each transaction and $3000RMB total for a day. I think you can request for more but it has to go before a teller. I think it's best NOT to travel with too much cash.
Weelock
The situation in large cities like BJ or SH could be much better. In BJ you can get as much as 5000Y/day from any ATM.
Travel Dog
09-26-05, 13:55
I’ll add my two cents for getting money into China
1) Carry in Cash. This is the best. Then exchange the cash at your hotel, banks or on the black market. Don’t do the black market unless you have a friend take you to a trusted place. These days the bank rates are better than the black market anyway. Bring in clean, new large denomination bills. Many business refuse to change old or marked on bills.
2) Use a credit card. Hotels, restaurants in hotels and some businesses take a credit card even for mongering activities. But for everyday purchases forget using a credit card. But your larger hotels will surely take a card. Visa and MC are more likely to be taken than AMEX
3) ATMs, I have had the best luck with Bank of China ATMs which take major US ATM cards. You can usually withdraw 2500RMB at a time. The exchange rate is good but your hometown bank may have significant extra charges so check.
4) You can wire money to a bank account you set up in China. You will need a passport and phone numbers and address to set this up. This varies according to the bank. Then you can wire money to your bank account. Don’t expect this to go smoothly. Getting the first transfer set up and deposited in your account is a major pain in the ass. But once you get it to work subsequent transfers will be fine. It takes about 4 days for a foreign money transfer to actually arrive at \your local china bank. This is best for larger amounts of money.
TD
You will need a passport and phone numbers and address to set this up.Due to money laundering regulations you need a passport and an address in almost every Bank in the world. (And you need the passport already at the border.) But this address does not have to be in China and a mobile phone number will do.
Don’t expect this to go smoothlyI had no problems so far. It just takes time with the wrong banks. With Bank Of China in Shenzhen, Shanghai, BeiJing, a transfer from a European non HSBC Bank takes normally 2 days.
It takes about 4 days for a foreign money transfer to actually arrive at \your local china bank.With HSBC (The World's local Bank) Transfers from Hong Kong to China take max 1 day, sometimes arrive on the same day. The amount doesn't matter.
If you are a premier customer of HSBC, then there is even zero charge for the wire.
By the way, I was the most amazed that I wired money one day from HSBC HK to a non HSBC Bank in the US at 3:30 pm. They charged me a little more to effect the transfer on the same day, bacause I was after the cut off time. Then I checked online and found 4 hours later the money was already on the US account.
Tiger
1) Carry in Cash. This is the best. Then exchange the cash at your hotel, banks or on the black market. Don’t do the black market unless you have a friend take you to a trusted place. These days the bank rates are better than the black market anyway. Bring in clean, new large denomination bills. Many business refuse to change old or marked on bills.
Change ONLY at banks or hotels. Ask for a good number of small bills. Give the money in a way that you don't get many notes in return, specially not with taxi driver. Check every single bill - the Chinese do it too, and they know why.
China has a major problem with fake banknotes and as a tourist you face a major risk getting some.
Another good way: open a bank account and the get the 3 clored 'Union Pay' debit card. Many ATM, hotels, shops and restaurants take them.
I have a general observation on prices and I was wondering if other people have similar experiences. I have noticed when I bargain hard on price and get a girl to come down a lot, she gives the worst performance. If I just accept her rate, or close to it, she will generally do a very good job. I'm at the point now where if I get quoted more than 800-1000 RMB I just walk off and don't even bother. Any opinions?
Another good way: open a bank account and the get the 3 clored 'Union Pay' debit card. Many ATM, hotels, shops and restaurants take them.
Before you you send me all PM, here is how to open a bank account in China:
Walk in any bank (I suggest China Merchant Bank = CMB - they have online banking)
Ask for someone that speaks English (one person will at least)
Open an account
You DON'T need an address in China!
You get the Union Pay debit card on the spot.
Don't know what "Union Pay" is? It's the most common ATM card in China. Look at that logo:
http://www.128pay.com/images/china%20union%20pay1.gif
Is the CMB web site available in English and easily accessible from the US?
Thanks,
Omar
1000 is on the high side in Beijing, and is certainly high for ladies from The Den. Russians and some mongoian girls sometimes start there, and the hotties at Maggies can get that rate, but chinese girls almost always will be happy as anything with 800. Quite a few members here get much lower prices than that, too. I'm just not that great of a bargainer.
But to your advice, in my opinion service should not drop going from 1000 to 800, but perhaps could if you go from 800 to 6 or 700 hundred. If you act a little bit - say something like "gee you are really pretty, but I am afraid I can only spend xxx tonight - sorry, maybe next time" - 9 times out of 10 she will accept. Or you can wait until later in the evening, when discounts start happening.
Lots of freelancers in town these days outside HRC and at Guo Mao that will start at 500 and go down from there.
To Travel Dog and Heel Lover,
I think you guys are correct. The max you can withdraw is 2500RMB at a time from a ATM, 5000RMB per day at Bank of China. I don't recall the exact amount. My point is problem getting the money. They told me smaller branches might NOT have a line (connection) to outside China. The ATM might take your card. Only the larger branches have connections to outside China. I don't know HOW true this is since several managers didn't know themselves.
Happy Hunting
Weelock
Is the CMB web site available in English and easily accessible from the US?
Thanks,
Omar
CMB online is 100% Chinese. HSBC has an english interface, but they don't have the Union Pay card.
1000 is on the high side in Beijing, and is certainly high for ladies from The Den.
Lots of freelancers in town these days outside HRC and at Guo Mao that will start at 500 and go down from there.I totally agree with you, but my time was at a premium as this was a short trip. Normally, I go for the 400-600 RMB types and I am happy, but the one I got surprised me with her level of GFE and physical attractiveness.
By the way, I noticed that a lot of the freelancers outside HRC and SanLiTun appear to have a someone they are working for(pimp?) What is the deal? Why do these girls need a pimp and is it safe to use them?
Travel Dog
09-28-05, 13:15
Weelok
I have successfully withdrawn money using a US bank's ATM card at many small towns in Guanxi, Shanghai, Guangdong, Yunan and Sichuan provinces. This only seems to work at ATM's for the Bank of China. Only had my card "eaten" once and that was in the USA. Sometimes the ATM screens are English sometimes Chinese. You should always have a plan "B" in case your card doesn't work.
TD
Heel Lover
09-28-05, 13:35
Is the CMB web site available in English and easily accessible from the US?
Thanks,
Omar
Yes, they do have a homepage in English: http://english.cmbchina.com/ and can be easily access from anywhere.
But, to access your account you'll have to use the 'profession edition of Internet Banking system' or 'General Edition', which seems to be Chinese only.
Heel Lover
09-28-05, 13:43
Before you you send me all PM, here is how to open a bank account in China:
Walk in any bank (I suggest China Merchant Bank = CMB - they have online banking)
Ask for someone that speaks English (one person will at least)
Open an account
You DON'T need an address in China!
You get the Union Pay debit card on the spot.
Don't know what "Union Pay" is? It's the most common ATM card in China. Look at that logo:
http://www.128pay.com/images/china%20union%20pay1.gif
Another good choice of local bank is ICBC: http://www.icbc.com.cn/e_index.jsp
They also have on-line banking (but same as CMB, online banking is Chinese only) and have much more ATMs and branchs than CMB.
Heel Lover
09-28-05, 13:46
Dated in 2003 but still can be useful:
http://www.beijingtraveltips.com/tips/money_3_atms/atms.htm
Another good choice of local bank is ICBC: http://www.icbc.com.cn/e_index.jsp
They also have on-line banking (but same as CMB, online banking is Chinese only) and have much more ATMs and branchs than CMB.
With the Union Pay card you don't have to find a CMB ATM as most ATMs give access to Union Pay cards (for a small fee), incl. Bank of China.
I like to add that it's extremely difficult to make an account transfer with CMB. There are a few thinks you have to apply for if you plan to transfer online.
For online transfer HSBC is much better and easier. So it's best to have 2 accounts in China if you plan to transfer funds.
Sadly, nowadays a few online banks are nearly impossible to use coz of silly over the top security issues. CMB is one of them.
Heel Lover
09-28-05, 15:40
With the Union Pay card you don't have to find a CMB ATM as most ATMs give access to Union Pay cards (for a small fee), incl. Bank of China.
It's true. But using the ATM of the same bank can save you 2Y (yes, only $0.25, ^O^) service fee each time, and also avoid some 'trouble with the data linkage'.
OldAsiaHand
10-01-05, 10:29
Boss,
I've had similar experiences after bargaining, but certainly do not always receive good service when I agree to the price. This week in Shenzhen, I tried a different strategy with a SW. She asked for 200 RMB. I countered with 150 RMB. She said I would be happy with her service. I told her if I was "very happy" as she put it, I would pay 200, if not, only 150 RMB. She agreed. The service was great.
Having said that, I reckon that service is below average more than half of the time for me, hard bargaining or otherwise. IMHO, great service is found less than 10% of the time in my experience. I suppose this depends on each individual's perception of "great service". My bar is set pretty high. Basically, the closer to GFE, the better the service.
I've found that service is not relative to price. I've had my best BBBJCIM in China for 100 RMB and, a complete dead fuck for 1,500 RMB.
I've also noticed that service gets better with repeat sessions with the same girl or even different girls in the same establishment regardless of price. If a mama tells her girl to give you good service, the girl will usually obey.
Just my POV.
OAH
I have a general observation on prices and I was wondering if other people have similar experiences. I have noticed when I bargain hard on price and get a girl to come down a lot, she gives the worst performance. If I just accept her rate, or close to it, she will generally do a very good job. I'm at the point now where if I get quoted more than 800-1000 RMB I just walk off and don't even bother. Any opinions?
Who can put some light on online chats. I like to give it a try.
I D/L the Yahoo messenger. But the English messenger does not connect to the China chat boards.
The Chinese Yahoo board is http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/ - and the english channel is http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/?room=E-Z%E9%81%9B%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87::1600944441
How does MSN compare? Any other hints?
Another really active site is QQ.com. But is there any English messenger software which can handle the QQ stream in English?
I will give QQ a try. A good starting point is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QQ
D/L the English QQ here: http://qq.bur.st/data/qq2004ii_eng.exe
A good detailed english instruction how to start and get an ID is here: http://qq.bur.st/
After you signed up and everything a good start page is: http://love.qq.com/
Gee! That is exiting!
OK, here is the catch: to sign up with QQ you have to enter a confirmation code from an image. The hard part is that this are 8 chinese characters.
I installed the NJ Star software to write Chinese, but so far no luck in getting it right.
QQ update: I tried to register 100 times today from the office - no success - got always different error messages. From home I got success the first time! Means you probably need a direct internet connection and you can not connect via a router.
PS: you can not work with character images, you need to be able to write Chinese to register.
Angel Abazdo
10-04-05, 09:08
Boss,
I've had similar experiences after bargaining, but certainly do not always receive good service when I agree to the price. This week in Shenzhen, I tried a different strategy with a SW. She asked for 200 RMB. I countered with 150 RMB. She said I would be happy with her service. I told her if I was "very happy" as she put it, I would pay 200, if not, only 150 RMB. She agreed. The service was great.
Having said that, I reckon that service is below average more than half of the time for me, hard bargaining or otherwise. IMHO, great service is found less than 10% of the time in my experience. I suppose this depends on each individual's perception of "great service". My bar is set pretty high. Basically, the closer to GFE, the better the service.
I've found that service is not relative to price. I've had my best BBBJCIM in China for 100 RMB and, a complete dead fuck for 1,500 RMB.
I've also noticed that service gets better with repeat sessions with the same girl or even different girls in the same establishment regardless of price. If a mama tells her girl to give you good service, the girl will usually obey.
Just my POV.
OAHOAH,
Good idea for the bargaining tip. I'll even try promising a bonus if it is really over the top. After all, isn't it the real meaning of tipping?
Blacklisted
10-04-05, 12:30
There are thousands of Chinese characters out there!
Can you copy the image as a jpeg and paste it up here?
Who can put some light on online chats. I like to give it a try.
I D/L the Yahoo messenger. But the English messenger does not connect to the China chat boards.
The Chinese Yahoo board is http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/ - and the english channel is http://cn.chat.yahoo.com/?room=E-Z%E9%81%9B%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87::1600944441
How does MSN compare? Any other hints?
Another really active site is QQ.com. But is there any English messenger software which can handle the QQ stream in English?
I will give QQ a try. A good starting point is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QQ
D/L the English QQ here: http://qq.bur.st/data/qq2004ii_eng.exe
A good detailed english instruction how to start and get an ID is here: http://qq.bur.st/
After you signed up and everything a good start page is: http://love.qq.com/
Gee! That is exiting!
OK, here is the catch: to sign up with QQ you have to enter a confirmation code from an image. The hard part is that this are 8 chinese characters.
I installed the NJ Star software to write Chinese, but so far no luck in getting it right.
QQ update: I tried to register 100 times today from the office - no success - got always different error messages. From home I got success the first time! Means you probably need a direct internet connection and you can not connect via a router.
PS: you can not work with character images, you need to be able to write Chinese to register.I have exactly the same problems using QQ. I can't register because of those chinese character which I do not understand. Furthermore there are always those error messages.
Regarding the Yahoo MEssenger I just use the english version to look how the chinese should work. I mean the layout is the same, so just compare. And after a while you will know how to use the chinese version. Buttons are at the same places.
Tried it in the Cyber Love room and the english speaking one. The problem is that the few people there are all from different places except Beijing where I work.
Those other sited like 163.com or sina.com are all in chinese. So I even can't find the entry to the chat.
I have exactly the same problems using QQ. I can't register because of those chinese character which I do not understand.
You don't haver to understand them, just put them in the box. I can't read Chinese at all and managed to pass it on the first go!
Just make sure you read http://qq.bur.st a few times.
In the worst case, ask a chinese friend to get you a number. Mine was crocked on the first day and a gal I chatted with signed a new one for me in 30 seconds. Or check the link I up there, in the forum is a chine guy who offers help in getting a QQ number.
BTW, you screen name is not unique. Common names are often and you can change your name all the time. The number is unique.
And QQ does work! On my next trip to the big city I have already a place to stay. Thay of course does not imply sex. Of course not!
Bull Dozer
10-07-05, 21:19
Guys,
Need some advice, why most woman on net want a commitment to marry them, without even knowing them. A married woman from Shanghai contacted me on Yahoo messanger, she is 32 Yrs old with a 8 year old son. She hates her husband wants to leave him because he beats her up. She is looking for someone to marry, so that she can divorce her husband. She was online with me for 1 hour on the webcam, she is cute, I only want to have sex with her, but will have to spend a lot of money to fly from Guangzhou & hotel,just to get some pussy, not even sure about that yet, may be 90% chances are good. Would it be good or bad decision to go with this plan or not? Need some serious advice how to handle the situation. Don't know if free pussy may turn out to be very expensive?
Go Joe
Wait until the husband shows up.
Why get yourself involved in someone else's mess when you can guarantee yourself with paid providers that have no complications with so little money elsewhere?
Bill
Guys,
Need some advice, why most woman on net want a commitment to marry them, without even knowing them. A married woman from Shanghai contacted me on Yahoo messanger, she is 32 Yrs old with a 8 year old son. She hates her husband wants to leave him because he beats her up. She is looking for someone to marry, so that she can divorce her husband. She was online with me for 1 hour on the webcam, she is cute, I only want to have sex with her, but will have to spend a lot of money to fly from Guangzhou & hotel,just to get some pussy, not even sure about that yet, may be 90% chances are good. Would it be good or bad decision to go with this plan or not? Need some serious advice how to handle the situation. Don't know if free pussy may turn out to be very expensive?
Go Joe
Clandestine782
10-07-05, 23:44
I have no sympathy for women who choose abusive husbands. They have passed over *many* normal men who would have offered them something better in terms of treatment even if for a little less income. At the risk of revisiting a topic that we've talked about before: There is a huge excess of men to women here. Something like 20%. Every woman should be able to have a man and some should be able to have two.
Have you considered another possibility? They (the husband and wife) may be on the same level. In some cosmic sense, people end up with the partner they deserve. If this woman passed over all these other men in China to pick that *one* (because she thought she was going to have a guaranteed income for the rest of her life) then she is getting exactly what she deserves.
Tinybobo1002
10-08-05, 01:17
Guys,
Need some advice, why most woman on net want a commitment to marry them, without even knowing them. A married woman from Shanghai contacted me on Yahoo messanger, she is 32 Yrs old with a 8 year old son. She hates her husband wants to leave him because he beats her up. She is looking for someone to marry, so that she can divorce her husband. She was online with me for 1 hour on the webcam, she is cute, I only want to have sex with her, but will have to spend a lot of money to fly from Guangzhou & hotel,just to get some pussy, not even sure about that yet, may be 90% chances are good. Would it be good or bad decision to go with this plan or not? Need some serious advice how to handle the situation. Don't know if free pussy may turn out to be very expensive?
Go Joe
Go Joe, Your title is whether it is safe. Based on my experience and "sickness" hanging out with married women, I can assure you it is safe as long as you do her according to your plan, i.e. your choice of a city nearby and in a international chain hotel, which provides better security. 90% of the chance you will get her to bed on the very first night, and I will guarantee you 100% on the second. You must be a loser if you can fuck her on the third.
Your content talks about cost. It is not free. First, you need airfare. Second, you need a more decent hotel with good security. Third, you need a dinner, followed by some beer in one of the local bars.
These women are usually more mature, wtih more mileage attached. I dont agree with the previous two posts, because i dont want to judge them. This board is for us to exchange information and experience. Mine is they can be fun with more GFE. It is not bad to eat meat and potato everyday (pros), but every now and then, we go to chinatown for a bowl of wonton soup (married women). This is the beauty of choice.
Don't judge me. I know I am sick.
Hey Joe,
Sometimes a woman will complain about being in an abusive relationship. I know that men in china beats their wives, gf etc.. more often than here in the US.
Sometimes, there maybe a reason. she maybe nagging or whatever.. maybe this is not political correct .. but "the b*tch deserves it "
Just my POV
Heel Lover
10-08-05, 03:02
Guys,
Need some advice, why most woman on net want a commitment to marry them, without even knowing them. A married woman from Shanghai contacted me on Yahoo messanger, she is 32 Yrs old with a 8 year old son. She hates her husband wants to leave him because he beats her up. She is looking for someone to marry, so that she can divorce her husband. She was online with me for 1 hour on the webcam, she is cute, I only want to have sex with her, but will have to spend a lot of money to fly from Guangzhou & hotel,just to get some pussy, not even sure about that yet, may be 90% chances are good. Would it be good or bad decision to go with this plan or not? Need some serious advice how to handle the situation. Don't know if free pussy may turn out to be very expensive?
Go Joe
It's not only about money or marriage, it can even worse to be some kind of scam. You'd better be really careful.
HL
This could be a scam too. A husband and wife tag team running their scam on a well-to-do foreigner? Is that you?
Think about the cost, for a plane fare and hotel room for couple of nights, you could be banging your nuts off at CP, DG, Houjie etc.... many times over. Cute honeys are all over the country. Why go so far to be disappointed?
Bill
Guys,
Need some advice, why most woman on net want a commitment to marry them, without even knowing them. A married woman from Shanghai contacted me on Yahoo messanger, she is 32 Yrs old with a 8 year old son. She hates her husband wants to leave him because he beats her up. She is looking for someone to marry, so that she can divorce her husband. She was online with me for 1 hour on the webcam, she is cute, I only want to have sex with her, but will have to spend a lot of money to fly from Guangzhou & hotel,just to get some pussy, not even sure about that yet, may be 90% chances are good. Would it be good or bad decision to go with this plan or not? Need some serious advice how to handle the situation. Don't know if free pussy may turn out to be very expensive?
Go Joe
Bnlee2 wrote : but "the b*tch deserves it "
any man who strikes a woman under ANY circumstances is a pussy. Posting crap like that brings unwanted and unwelcome heat to the forum.
Bnlee2, here's the rules on posts, directly from Jackson:
Please do not post any messages, images or links that are vulgar, hateful, threatening, racist, or discriminatory.
Please do us all a favor - delete that post.
Just back from China (pictures to be posted very soon now...) and did not actually find the October 1st National feast much a problem for mongering. Compared to Chinese New year, business is quite as usual in BBS and elsewhere, no major crackdown. As I tend to think, the sex industry has now entered by degree into the normal life of this contry. Also, 10-1 is not a traditional feast where girls feel they have to travel back home, so they stay on duty. Also, as more and more high school students get extra money by working in KTV or BBS in the evening or during the week-ends, this one week holiday was an opporunity for them to work.
I have found more a problem the many domestic tourists and the noisy and cheecky kids who envade every hotels and restaurants during this week. Just for that, I will avoid this period next year.
Blacklisted
10-10-05, 01:13
Hey Joe,
Sometimes a woman will complain about being in an abusive relationship. I know that men in china beats their wives, gf etc.. more often than here in the US.
Sometimes, there maybe a reason. she maybe nagging or whatever.. maybe this is not political correct .. but "the b*tch deserves it "
Just my POV
Only cowards hit women.
Silly Puppy
10-10-05, 06:34
There is abosolutely no reason for a man to beat a woman up. Pick someone your size..
Webmaster please !
China is a very big country, with names that can be difficult to handle for most of the readers here who are not Chinese speakers, understandably. Thus, the list of content is once more a bit confusing and a mixture of different catagories. Take a report about Zhuhai, some people would post it under the Guangzhou section because Zhuhai is in Guangdong province, if they have not seen that there is now a Zhuhai section. Some other would just put it in South China section, as they would think Zhuhai has nothing to do with Guangzhou.
My suggestion : let's get a bit tiddy here. Why don't you first classify by province name (example : Guangdong), then sub-classify with capital of province (Guangzhou/Canton), and other important places in this province (Shenzhen, Donguang, Zhuhai, Other)
If you need help I can help you.
There is plenty of action in Tibet - See this article in the Hindustan Times.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1478453,00020008.htm
Parasitius
10-13-05, 04:47
Just ran across this one, there is a number of shirts useful for in China -- with messages for the merchants written in characters... But I just had to post because I think you guys are gonna especially love the "KTV Pimp" one. I'd like to see some pics taken in KTV with that sucker on and like 6 girls around. (Who was the dude posting pics of him always with 3-6 girls a while back ? I miss that shit yo!)
http://www.mto123.com/gallery.php?category=laowai
Here is the blog that was talking about it
http://www.chinawhite.net/archives/2005/10/laowai_collecti.html
I am a newbie and have been lurking for a short time. Made my first post yesterday.
I see a lot of sniping and bitching on the China Photo Gallery that to me seems childish and unwarranted. Go look at some of the other galleries and then compare the quality of the comments, photos and yes the quality of the ladies there. There is just no comparison to the China Gallery any where else.
Seems to me you guys are doing a great job and should appreciate what you have here compared to most other galleries!
Tea boy, I confirm, I had a busty Sichuan girl in a BBS in central Lhassa some time ago.
Le Licheur
10-14-05, 02:44
I've been checking this site for some time but haven't yet had the opportunity to post any pics - however, I hope that will change soon as I am planning a trip in a couple of months and hope to take some photos. I will be going to Thailand, Vietnam and China (maybe Cambodia) so I'll be dealing with customs in those countries not to mention when I get back home and I am wondering how to stay out of trouble with the authorities - I'll have my digital hopefully with enough memory cards but no laptop - anyone have suggestions on how I can take photos and stay out of trouble when crossing customs in these countries? Do they check digitals? Memory cards?
SE Asia Joe
10-14-05, 04:47
First I would like to apologize for bringing up a NON-mongering question – but I really need you guises input.
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps. This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper. Does anybody here know where I can get this?
Thanks for any help
SE Asia Joe
What you mention sounds illegal to me - entry/exit stamps can only be put in authorized passport pages, and passports are the property of the issuing nation - not the passport holder. So China has no legal ability to issue an additional passport page. At least that is how it works for Americans and Australians.
Why don't you just go to your local Embassy and get more pages added ? I've done it a lot, my passport looks like a short novel; lots of members have.
Cebu Local
10-14-05, 10:17
First I would like to apologize for bringing up a NON-mongering question – but I really need you guises input.
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps. This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper. Does anybody here know where I can get this?
Thanks for any help
SE Asia JoeAs a Travel Professional,I have encountered this before and certain countries grant this request.For example Malaysians visiting Israel can get their visa stamped on a separate piece of paper,Since Visiting Israel is grounds for removal of your Malaysian Citizenship,Likewise Taiwanese Military are not allowed to visit China.So those visiting family use the pieces of paper.Hope this helps
Cebu Local
10-14-05, 10:21
What you mention sounds illegal to me - entry/exit stamps can only be put in authorized passport pages, and passports are the property of the issuing nation - not the passport holder. So China has no legal ability to issue an additional passport page. At least that is how it works for Americans and Australians.
Why don't you just go to your local Embassy and get more pages added ? I've done it a lot, my passport looks like a short novel; lots of members have.Lao Ma
See the post below,What if you are from a group that is not allowed to visit China,I have encountered Taiwanese having pieces of paper stamped at the Pudong Airport many times.Btw Se Asian Joe I am also Canadian and getting extra pages is not a problem also at the High Commision
Heel Lover
10-14-05, 10:49
I've been checking this site for some time but haven't yet had the opportunity to post any pics - however, I hope that will change soon as I am planning a trip in a couple of months and hope to take some photos. I will be going to Thailand, Vietnam and China (maybe Cambodia) so I'll be dealing with customs in those countries not to mention when I get back home and I am wondering how to stay out of trouble with the authorities - I'll have my digital hopefully with enough memory cards but no laptop - anyone have suggestions on how I can take photos and stay out of trouble when crossing customs in these countries? Do they check digitals? Memory cards?
In most cases the China Customs will not check your memory cards or laptop, unless you draw their attention to you, with weird behavior, eg. try to hide the cards from them.
If you are really paranoid about this, you may try to email the photos to yourself insead of bring the files with you.
Language learning is a girls domain. There will be no shortage of English typing girls you can chat too, and which are eager to chat too you.
Some have a poor command of English, so use simple language. Some use online translators, which can puzzle one and leaves no clue what they want to say. Most are quite young, early 20th will be the average.
On the after-online front, I did met a girl after a chat in SZ. A 23 year old virgin (she did kiss), 1.42m tall. Neither virgins nor really short girls are exactly my fetish. At least she is curious about sex and start to ask some questions which I answer in great details. It's online fun, but in no way anything I would get involved off-line with.
Got 2 more dates in GZ. #1 is really cool, but married. #1 is from Panyu and invited me to stay in her place. Well, I do worry abit about personal safety. I think I prefer to stay in a hotel and ask her to join me. She probably speaks no english at all and uses online translators all the time.
I have to admit, it's all part of the fun. But I think in the long run I will prefer the simple P4P way.
Chat Update: After you chat a few days you can easiely have 100 female contact. All like to chat with the foreigner. So be selective! Now I don't chat with girls which are out of reach, or in places where I will never go. Also, avoid girls below 25! There is a very high virgin possibility, which is absolutely not my fetish!
http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=3064
October 17, 2005
An online pornography and prostitution ring headed by siblings surnamed He has been discovered by Sichuan and Shanghai police.
The duo, along with eighteen other members of the gang, were jailed this past week and were accused of spreading pornographic information via the Internet in China. They started the business at the beginning of 2005.
The sister, He Xiaoying, was responsible for recruiting prostitutes in Shanghai who then paid an "information fee" to have their contact details posted on the website. Her brother He Juyou stayed in Sichuan employing nine web developers and marketers to solicit customers online.
Police say the gang had accumulated approximately one million yuan before they were identified. The case is being processed and judgements should be released by the end of the year.
http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=3065
October 18, 2005
Since September 28, the Information Office of the State Council, the Ministry of Public Security and the Ministry of Information Industry have been working on identifying and terminating pornography activities active on China's online chatting systems.
The trio are currently investigating 1568 cases and 101 people have been arrested.
For the next step, local security departments will focus on policing online chatting rooms and punish website operators who are accomodating illegal chatroom activities.
Guys,
here is an interesting story. Not sure if it is true?Did get a go ahead to post by Jackson. But can be a good heads up for us mongers. Take it with a pinch of salt but if it is real, stay away from this girl.
http://www.zhanjiangchina.co.uk/
I'm unable to open zhanjiang website. Can you give us a brief report?
I think the censorship has gotten much worse. Radio, TV, newspapers and internet are all heavily controlled and the censors have become better at their trade.
I wonder if this website will also be blocked someday. I'm now reluctant to post here. Am I being overly paranoid?
Crazy Jim Wood
10-22-05, 08:26
The chick on this web page looks older than the 30 she claims. With all the movement of China's floating population, people easily fake ID cards and other documents so they fit the right age profile. Some women increase their age, if they are too young to get work and housing permits, some decrease their age to marry suckers from abroad.
If you haven't seen your girl for a while and her pussy is all stretched out, chances are she is fucking an African DJ.
Guys,
here is an interesting story. Not sure if it is true?Did get a go ahead to post by Jackson. But can be a good heads up for us mongers. Take it with a pinch of salt but if it is real, stay away from this girl.
http://www.zhanjiangchina.co.uk/
As to the contents of this page, it could have been taken from one of a thousand similar stories from Thailand, changing only name and location. Nothing new, just same shit different day.
The guy who wrote this seems like a complete rube, for one, even if the girl wasn't cheating on him, she is old and worn out and not worth the trouble.
For those who cannot open website, but simply must read it, here are some excerpts...
"Sex, and discos are her life. She was so smart that I was unable to detect any sign of she being involved in such things. However, I had detected something on the first night during sex, she could perform something that even Porn Stars may not be able to ..."
"Husband Boyfriend and a fiancé... She look so innocent in this photograph that anyone who doesn't know her will fall for her. She is so clever that she can play different roles as and when needed. She played her husband and had a boyfriend after..."
"Father teaches her to find a rich husband from Europe... She claims that her father had taught her to find a husband from Europe, America or Australia. He advised her to lie about almost everything and appear to be a traditional innocent Chinese girl until they are married to you and then..."
Mock A Bee
10-23-05, 02:25
Guys,
here is an interesting story. Not sure if it is true?Did get a go ahead to post by Jackson. But can be a good heads up for us mongers. Take it with a pinch of salt but if it is real, stay away from this girl.
http://www.zhanjiangchina.co.uk/
This woman is an old hag, probably in her mid 40's. I bet the one who she says is her father is really her husband.
She is ugly to boot!
Who does she think she is trying to fool?
MAB
Sad story, but clearly the guy didn't do his homework. He never mentions how he met her. Did he meet her in a disco himself? Was she a hooker?
Never forget how you and your beloved met. If you met at church, that's one thing, but if you met at Maggie's...don't be surprised.
I just joined you bunch of DOM recently and don't understand the jargon you use. Help me please,.
What is:
CQ
Factory
BBBJ
SW
BBBJTCIM
DATY
DFK
I just joined you bunch of DOM recently and don't understand the jargon you use. Help me please,.
What is:
CQ
Factory
BBBJ
SW
BBBJTCIM
DATY
DFK
There is a section on top of the website that has most of the Abbreviations. There also a FAQ, and Rules, Search, Logout section. How did you get a Senior membership without reading some of the posting or fourm? Newbie NO. Maybe lazy or lack of time to read. These are very common abbreviations even for other monger websites. It took me well over a year and 90 post to get be a Senior. You did it with 28 post.
Um? OH? Wait a miniute, it seems like "Factory" and "CQ" are not listed for Abbreviations.
Cebu Local
10-24-05, 12:36
I just joined you bunch of DOM recently and don't understand the jargon you use. Help me please,.
What is:
CQ
Factory Place with lots of SW
BBBJ Bareback Blow job
SW Sex worker
BBBJTCIM Bareback Blow job come in Mouth
DATY Dining at the Y
DFKI am not a Dirty Old Man My question What does RTFF mean?
Don't pick on him too much. He's put alot more photos than many newbies.
Bill
There is a section on top of the website that has most of the Abbreviations. There also a FAQ, and Rules, Search, Logout section. How did you get a Senior membership without reading some of the posting or fourm? Newbie NO. Maybe lazy or lack of time to read. These are very common abbreviations even for other monger websites. It took me well over a year and 90 post to get be a Senior. You did it with 28 post.
Um? OH? Wait a miniute, it seems like "Factory" and "CQ" are not listed for Abbreviations.
>SW Sex worker
I thought SW was Street Walker...???
Nice Guy 99
10-25-05, 04:16
CQ is Chongqing ... sigh
Formerly known as Chungking. Airline baggage tag CKG.
Cebu Lover,
To get the answer read the fucking forum.
Actually, RTFF means "read the fucking forum".
Mock A Bee
10-25-05, 11:01
always ask how much first, and negotiate if the price is too high!
mab
the following is from the new york times, october 25, 2005
op-ed contributor - the lap of luxury
by elisabeth eaves
paris
it's happened again. another innocent man who just wanted a few lap dances claims to have been victimized by an exclusive new york strip club, scores.
this time it's an executive from missouri named robert mccormick, who, treating himself and friends, ran up a $241,000 bill at scores on his corporate american express card two years ago. american express is now suing him for refusing to pay up. several other unhappy customers have also sued scores over large bills.
these don't seem to be cases of bill padding. american express sought signed receipts from the club before bringing its suit against mr. mccormick. in the most recent suit against scores, meanwhile, the plaintiff's justification is simply that he was drunk when he signed his bills.
nevertheless, the manhattan district attorney's office is investigating allegations of overcharging at scores. to which i say, as someone who has worked in strip clubs, you've got to be kidding - there's no such thing as "overcharging" in this industry.
does christian dior "overcharge" when it sells a handbag for $13,000? that depends on how you look at it. if you see the handbag as a few pieces of stitched leather, the price is grossly inflated. if you see it as a source of heady self-worth - a passport to an exclusive club - then it's hard to say what price would be too high.
this is the economic logic relied on by purveyors of luxury goods. it's not about the utility of the product. it's about making the customer feel as if he has arrived.
strip clubs, particularly high-end ones like scores, provide a luxury service. that $3,000 price tag on a bottle of champagne isn't just for the beverage; it's part of the price of the experience. mr. mccormick probably didn't go to scores strictly to see topless women, or even for the physical contact and potential sexual gratification of a lap dance. both experiences can be had in simpler, cheaper ways.
rather, he and his colleagues probably went because being surrounded by fawning, semi-naked, champagne-flute-wielding women was for them a symbol of success. it's like hiring a chauffeured limousine: a taxi would get you there, but without the aesthetic experience.
when i worked in a seattle peep show, i had a customer who told me his name was excalibur and quietly slipped me his poetry. part of my job, in that moment, was to make him feel like a knight of the round table. this required only a show of curiosity and respect. he must have found those things hard to come by in the real world, though, because he paid me well to help spin the illusion.
with many customers, fawning is key. what a stripper sells is not her ability to dance or take off her clothes, but her ability to suspend the customer's disbelief.
if she is doing her job right, his bald spot and his mortgage cease to exist, and he enters an adolescent fantasy of sexual prowess, temporarily transformed into james bond, han solo and hugh hefner all rolled into one. the dancers keep cooing and flattering until the money runs out. it's not duplicitous; it's what the patron signs up for.
i have little sympathy for these carping customers. their complaints are the height of boorishness. it's acceptable to indulge your james bond fantasies, but it's not acceptable, when the bill comes due, to remain convinced that you're james bond. the dancers weren't in it for kicks.
among strippers i worked with, the most dreaded customers were not the obese or the lame. rather, we feared customers who thought they were exceptions to the rule. they were just handsome enough, or successful enough, to foolishly think that their own sex appeal was tip enough.
it's just this kind of guy who would backpedal on a strip club bill and go crying to the courts that he was hustled. well, sure, the dancers hustled mr. mccormick, but no more so than the occasional mercedes dealer. buyer's remorse is not an occasion to stiff the seller.
so, gentlemen, pay the bill. a reasonably priced lap dance is not a right.
elisabeth eaves is the author of "bare: the naked truth about stripping."
Don't pick on him too much. He's put alot more photos than many newbies.
Bill
Thanks for coming to my defense but comments from mental midgets do not bother me.
Cubanito contacted me on PM in response to my posting. Said he sells generic V on line. Anyone out there tried it? Same as real?
Some people said that they called the beauty center of their hotel in order to have a massage in their room. Then they talked with the girls about special services.
My question is : Does these service appear on the bill?
Some of you said that they have called the beauty salon of their hotel to ask for a gril to come in their room.
Does this service appears on the bill when you leave the hotel?
Clandestine782
11-04-05, 02:48
It depends on the hotel. But if it were me like you, I would duck getting a girl from a hotel, as they tend to be overpriced.
I even talked to a papasan at one barbershop that was right next door to a hotel and he told me that if I came in and got one of his girls that he would charge me RMB 300 for overnight. But if I asked for a girl in a hotel, he would charge 800RMB and give the girl the same amount that she got from him in the first case and just pocket the difference.
If you are in a hotel, barbershops should not be too far from where you are. Just ask a taxi driver and he'll take you right to them.
Parasitius
11-04-05, 06:28
Is there really no useful information hidden in maichun.org ? We should be harvesting it and translating it to English. Actually -- I cannot inspect the innards of the site, as the only way to get in is to be invited by someone who is already in. Being the mongers that you are, I think for sure that at least one of you have gotten in being invited by a Chinese friend monger, yea ? IF SO, Please lend a fellow a hand and invite me in as well. It looks like a good site, and UNLIKE this site, it is indeed one the govt. wants to keep blocked.
I'm talking about maichun.org and possibly sister site http://www.99bbs.com/ if there is anything useful in there.
If not informative, I hope you find this story to be funny.
I was walking around Beijing yesterday with pussy on my mind, so I searched a few back streets hoping to find a pretty one. No such luck, the barbershop girls in this town are usually of low quality. I stuck my head in a shop and an ugy one offered full service at a low price. What the fuck! Am I a man or a mouse? I'll screw her!
So I go with this gal into the back room. I get it up and in, but I just couldn't finish. Damn! Kept thinking about how frigging ugly she is. Shit! So I put my red knickers back on, throw her the money and bolted for the exit.
Mouse I guess!
Shocked to hear that a Singaporean was murdered in a 4* hotel.
http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,96943,00.html?
Be careful if you are an expat travelling to China.
OldAsiaHand
11-06-05, 04:01
I always stay at the Dynasty when I travel to Chengdu. I better start looking for an alternative!
Shocked to hear that a Singaporean was murdered in a 4* hotel.
http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,96943,00.html?
Be careful if you are an expat travelling to China.
OldAsiaHand
11-06-05, 04:05
Donnell:
Normally, you have a choice to put the massage fee on the room or pay cash for it. The tip for extra services usually requires cash payment.
OAH
Some of you said that they have called the beauty salon of their hotel to ask for a gril to come in their room.
Does this service appears on the bill when you leave the hotel?
FYI:
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Ontario Boy
11-11-05, 06:30
Before someone tells me to RTFF I have and have used the search option as well but am still unable to find the posting that gave some pinyin/phonetics translation for mongering terms for us non Mandarin types . Can anyone provide a link ?
Thank you
Heel Lover
11-11-05, 07:27
Shocked to hear that a Singaporean was murdered in a 4* hotel.
http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,96943,00.html?
Be careful if you are an expat travelling to China.
The murderers have been cought, as reported by a local newspaper. They were two drug dealers from ChongQing, who happened to pass by the hotel and think people who stay there must be rich...
For people who can read Chinese, you may get more details here:
http://news.sina.com.cn/s/2005-11-11/02468263581.shtml
Brain Damaged
11-11-05, 09:24
FYI:
The Embassy has learned that Chinese police advised hotels that Islamic extremist elements could be planning to attack four and five star hotels in China sometime over the course of the next week. Chinese authorities have assured the Embassy that they are taking appropriate security measures and investigating the possible threat thoroughly. American citizens visiting Chinese four and five star hotels should review their plans carefully, remain vigilant with regard to their personal security, and exercise caution. Reports should be made to local police if one notices unusual activities in or around these areas.
The warning was retracted about four minutes after it was issued:
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November 9/10 Threat Message Retracted
The Chinese Ministry of Public Security informed the U.S. Embassy in Beijing on
November 10 that Chinese security authorities have determined that the source
of a reported threat against four and five star hotels in China is not
credible. The United States Government is not aware of any other information
of any threat against hotels in China, including Hong Kong. Our warden
message(s) of November 9 and 10 on threats to hotels are therefore retracted.
The warning was retracted about four minutes after it was issued:
--
November 9/10 Threat Message Retracted
The Chinese Ministry of Public Security informed the U.S. Embassy in Beijing on
November 10 that Chinese security authorities have determined that the source
of a reported threat against four and five star hotels in China is not
credible. The United States Government is not aware of any other information
of any threat against hotels in China, including Hong Kong. Our warden
message(s) of November 9 and 10 on threats to hotels are therefore retracted.Yep. I was going to post the retraction but remembered I was at work.
By the way, there's a new warning about terrorist attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou. Wonder if that one will get retracted.
Before someone tells me to RTFF I have and have used the search option as well but am still unable to find the posting that gave some pinyin/phonetics translation for mongering terms for us non Mandarin types . Can anyone provide a link ?
Thank you
What do you need to know? Here are a couple to help get you started.
I want a girl.
Wo jiao xiaojie
I like big tits.
Wo xi huan da buo.
I like big ass.
Wo xi huan da pigu.
I want a fat girl.
Wo xiang pangde nuhaer.
I want a skinny girl.
Wo xiang shoude nuhaer.
I want you to blow me.
Wo xiang ni chuai shao.
Don't lick my balls.
Bu tian wode dan.
I want you on top.
Wo xiang ni shangmian.
I want you to come back with me to my hotel.
Wo xiang ni he wo ichi qu jiudian.
I want to shave your pussy hair.
Wo xiang gua nide xiaomeimei mao.
I want to smack your ass.
Wo xiang da nide pigu.
I want to smoke a cigarette.
Wo xiang cho yan.
Anything else you need?
P.S. I'm sure some of these are wrong and someone will come along to correct me. They've always worked for me though.
Ontario Boy
11-13-05, 22:28
Thank you Moody, they are all useful phrases .
What would be your suggestion as to how to ask for sex or "full service": in either a BBS or sauna. - what would you say to the mama or papa sam ?
Also
Please take off your clothes?
I want to have sex with you ?
Moody - pretty good actually, if you can get the right tones. Small corrections, but if they work for you that's all that matters
Don't lick my balls.
Bu tian wode dan.
-- why would I want to say don't lick my balls ? anyway, that phrase can also mean don't lick my pubic regions, so you may want to use another word for balls like gao (1)wan (2), if you want the sweetie to lick your stick and toss your salad but not lick the jewels
if you want to ask for FS, many ways - I'd just say "women keyi bu keyi xing (4) jiao (1) ma ? it means can we or can we not have sex. "keyi" sounds like "kuh-yee", sort of. If you are in southern china where the dialect is different many times, I'd just go with the hand signalling method.
btw I learned the word for fu@% just by going to my Oxford English-Chinese Dictionary and looking up "fuck" - always nice when the academic community does it's part to help us mongers. I just wish they had an entry for the verb facial
Heel Lover
11-14-05, 04:37
Moody - pretty good actually, if you can get the right tones. Small corrections, but if they work for you that's all that matters
Don't lick my balls.
Bu tian wode dan.
It should be "Bie Tian Wo De Dan". "Bie" means "don't", while "bu" means "no".
if you want to ask for FS, many ways - I'd just say "women keyi bu keyi xing (4) jiao (1) ma ?
Actually "Xing Jiao" means "sexual intercourse", which is correct but too formal for the girls. You can just use "Zuo Ai" instead, which means exactly "make love".
Heel Lover
11-14-05, 04:39
Thank you Moody, they are all useful phrases .
What would be your suggestion as to how to ask for sex or "full service": in either a BBS or sauna. - what would you say to the mama or papa sam ?
Also
Please take off your clothes?
I want to have sex with you ?
The madarin for FS in a sauna or BBS will be "Quan Tao (full set, full package)", but if your tone are not correct, it sounds like "trap", which also make sense in some cases. ^o^
Please take off your clothes? - Ba Yi Fu Tuo Le Ba (gently) or Tuo Yi Fu (demanding)
I want to have sex with you ? - Wo Xiang He Ni Zuo Ai
For the "don't lick my balls" thing, yeah, it should be "bie." For the record, I don't like having my balls licked, more pain than pleasure for me.
The problem with Chinese is that they're usually not very direct. You're talking about a language that says, "play the flute," or "kiss my little brother" instead of "suck my dick." They really don't say things like, "I want to fuck you." For instance, if you find a girl and say something like, "come home with me." They'll assume you want to want to fuck them.
Referring to "zuo ai," nobody really says that to a hooker. Even in English, nobody says, "make love," to a hooker. That said, if you say something like, "Wo xiang gao ni," (I want to do you) that should get the job done. Don't be surprised though, if they're a little shocked at hearing that. Chances are, they've never heard someone say that to them. Like I said, nobody speaks directly about this kind of stuff.
Some other stuff they may have never heard, but will understand.
I want to do your ass.
Wo xiang gao nide pigu.
I want to kiss your pussy (DATY).
Wo xiang chin xiaomeimei.
Lick my asshole.
Tian wode gangmen, xing bu xing.
Lao Ma,
If you want a facial, you can say, "Zhang zui," which means open your mouth.
Lil Big Horn
11-14-05, 07:37
Thanks for the chinese lessons and the dry humor.
Are any of you British or are Americans getting more witty. Hard to believe, may be just a small subset of society. ;-)
lbh
John Siron
11-14-05, 19:39
Haha. I just burst out laughing.
I think Anal is called "hou bei ti wei", but the "I want to ride your ass" is funny ... Haha.
Can we say "ma shang kai ni de kou (or zui ba)" for open your mouth?
I think the term for licking pussy is "tian ni de meimei". :-) and as I said before, if you fake that you are choking on their pubes, you can most of the time, get them to shave for you.... just like the women from back home. :-)
Some other stuff they may have never heard, but will understand.
I want to do your ass.
Wo xiang gao nide pigu.
I want to kiss your pussy (DATY).
Wo xiang chin xiaomeimei.
Lick my asshole.
Tian wode gangmen, xing bu xing.
Lao Ma,
If you want a facial, you can say, "Zhang zui," which means open your mouth.
Ontario Boy
11-15-05, 03:13
Thanks guys !! I'll let you know how they work unless I end up in jail !!
Member #1210
11-15-05, 04:12
How to say or ask mamasan or papasan : "I want to take this girl for overnight".
I have now a large collection of chat girls in various places around China. Chat is really fun.
Just one word of caution: Make sure you know about the technique well. Not like me, I did a voice chat last night with a cute girl. My GF came home, and I forgot to turn off the mic. She did listen to the conversation and did raised a few questions.......
Since I claimed to be single and alone that date is gone now.
Bob Builder
11-15-05, 08:40
With all the good intentions in the world, newbies are not going to be able to prononce all the dialogue here without a lesson in pinyin. You may all be better off practice asking for what you want by playing PICTIONARY before you leave home and using sign language.
Normally a gal who has me try to stick my fingers up her ass while in the BBS know what I want.
Heel Lover
11-15-05, 16:22
Referring to "zuo ai," nobody really says that to a hooker. Even in English, nobody says, "make love," to a hooker. That said, if you say something like, "Wo xiang gao ni," (I want to do you) that should get the job done. Don't be surprised though, if they're a little shocked at hearing that. Chances are, they've never heard someone say that to them. Like I said, nobody speaks directly about this kind of stuff.
Actually I got offered at least once in a souna that "Zuo Ai 500 Kuai" - "500Y for Making Love". So there are service providers mention their job as "zuo ai".
HL
Heel Lover
11-15-05, 16:29
How to say or ask mamasan or papasan : "I want to take this girl for overnight".
Wo Xiang Dai Ta Guo Ye - I want to take her for overnight.
I am going to China in the Spring, where is the best place to find girls in the following cities; Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen?
I am going to China in the Spring, where is the best place to find girls in the following cities; Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen?
I'm usually pretty tolerant of new guys showing up and asking questions without reading the forum. This however, has got to take the cake, and even I apparently have limits to my patience. At the very least, make the effort to read the "reports of distinction thread."
Cebu Local
11-16-05, 23:28
I am going to China in the Spring, where is the best place to find girls in the following cities; Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen?RTFF Read The Forum First,See Moody I am using the polite form.Can I answer this please???There is a guy selling contact nos of women for 50$ if you send it to him via PayPal.He is advertising in the Philippine and Indian threads as well as several other threads.If you dont want to RTFF,drop him a line
Guys, here's your answer:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0835125327/002-3768310-8826423?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance
There's a whole section in this book on sexual terms and their use.
Gualtier Malde
11-17-05, 05:38
Guys, here's your answer:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0835125327/002-3768310-8826423?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance
There's a whole section in this book on sexual terms and their use.
Just checked it out. List price is $9.95, but it is out of print, so the best used price available is $52!
No thanks!
I had a copy of "Outrageous Chinese". It's quite usefull. But can't find it now....
You can find it in China in some hotel bookshops. I have seen it many times there.
I saw also one other similar book: MUTANT MANDARIN - you can try that.
Or maybe you can try: Making Out in Chinese
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0804833907/002-2250126-2018467?v=glance&n=283155&%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
Or try some online resources:
http://www.chinese-tools.com/tools/dictionary/dico_sexual.html
OldAsiaHand
11-17-05, 15:13
Shogunate:
Welcome to the China Board of the ISG forum! The best place to find girls in the cities you mention is to RTFF. Posts like yours really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off and destroy the whole purpose of this forum for me which is to share my experience for the benefit of fellow mongers who read it. After 1,000 posts, most on the Shenzhen thread, I cannot help but to flame you for not doing so and your complete disrespect and inconsideration for my efforts.
Just my POV.
OAH
P.S. Is that polite?
I am going to China in the Spring, where is the best place to find girls in the following cities; Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen?
Cebu Local
11-17-05, 23:27
I am going to China in the Spring, where is the best place to find girls in the following cities; Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen?Clothing stores,Ladies rooms and Beauty Parlors.............Seriously Where else but BBS,Bars Clubs etc
Mock A Bee
11-18-05, 03:35
I am going to China in the Spring, where is the best place to find girls in the following cities; Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen?
Note to Shogunate, RTFF = Read The Fucking Forum. If you can't find girls in China then you must be blind.
I will be polite and refrain from calling you a lazy ass bastard.
MAB
Tinybobo1002
11-20-05, 23:53
note to shogunate, rtff = read the fucking forum. if you can't find girls in china then you must be blind.
i will be polite and refrain from calling you a lazy ass bastard.
mab
mab,
i agree if you can't find someone in china to suck your dick, there is something wrong with you. however, it has become more difficult, compared to a few years ago. now, girls are found inside ktvs, saunas and bars. bbs are disappearing in an alarming speed, particularly in big cities. sw definitely are rip-offs. overall, compensation is going up. it is not cheap anymore.
the only exception is dongguan, where you have a pulse and some greenbacks, you find men, woman or bisexuals to suit your taste.
Don't order the bokk Outrageous Chinese or Mutant Chinese. They are not good and the first one is always "out of print" but available at an outrageous price.
As I have said before, we need to start a seperate thread for "useful chinese phrases".
Don't order the bokk Outrageous Chinese or Mutant Chinese. They are not good and the first one is always "out of print" but available at an outrageous price.
I respectfully disagree. I have the book, bought it a long time ago. Yes, *some* of it seems inaccurate, but that is half the fun. While entertaining ladies(potential freebies) I want to score with, I pull it out and ask them to take a look and to help me with some language "questions" I have. It's always a lot of fun to see their reaction and it sets a playful mood for later on. I think the book is worth it.
Boss
Every Name
11-23-05, 01:34
I ask because so many seem to have colds, and few ever cover their mouths when they cough. Do they cough on you during sessions if they're sick? Am I being overly germophobic?
Boss. Maybe we are not talking about the same book. Outrageous Chinese is a small paperback and has very little in it that is useful. It is 98% in english, has very few useful phrases and is not worth more than $5 max. This business of claiming the book is "out of print but available for $59" is, I think, a scam.
The book Making Out in Chinese is useful and is priced ok at $8, but could be a lot better.
I wish we had a seperate thread here for "useful phrases". Lots of guys posting here would know which phrases are best to learn. How do we create one?
Try, Shei fengpi le? = Who farted? That always causes a laugh.
saw a post asking the meaning of a term, didn't have the time to respond then. here's a little translation of the very creative descrioptions u find in china:
- fire and ice : bj/cbj with alternately hot and cold water in the mouth. defintely a fine introduction to the local specialty
- lone dragon/poison dragon : rimming
- chest push/ball push : russian
- mouth explosion : bjwcim; bjwscims
- face/color shot : facial
- double bath - self explanatory
- wandering around/ants up the tree : tongue bath; variation of this is with mouthful of water and makes a constant gurgling sound
- desert strom : bj and rimming with jelly candy in the mouth
- two dragon play the pearl : holding a fruit (grape, cheery, strawberry) in mouth and tonge/push up dick/anus
- sword through the heart : suck/lick anus with ice or milk
- love of crystal : insert/play with a fruit jelly inside and have sex
- blue ice : rimiming with mouthwash (ouch!)
- flying man in air : sit on the dick and turn around
- lunchbox on the train : do it standing up
that's my collection; additions welcomed
Thank you Blue D.
Now can someone please translate that into pinyin? Or better yet, start a new "useful phrases" thread and post it there.
For those of you who want to start learning chinese try, Beginning Chinese by John DeFrancis. It is a 550 page fine print university textbook with 44 hours of audio casettes. The book is 30 years old and really IS out of print. You may find a copy at Amazon, but it will not include the casettes. Try your local library for the casettes and make your own copies. Unfortunately, much of the dialog is old fashioned and overly polite. Of course, no sexual dialog.
OldAsiaHand
11-25-05, 14:45
Every Name:
Yes, it seems that many are sick often. Same applies to the massage girls in legit places too. I imagine such close contact to so many mongers and between themselves passes it around. I've not noticed the coughing on me that much, but it happens.
OAH
I ask because so many seem to have colds, and few ever cover their mouths when they cough. Do they cough on you during sessions if they're sick? Am I being overly germophobic?
I have encountered many Chinese girls coughing in your face and also spitting out the phlegm into the waste basket,which they keep close to the bed.
I guess it is their culture not to swallow.
Although these girls did not seem to be suffering from a cold bout.
Firstly, like many others said, considering these girls work so "closely" with so many people for over 10 hours a day, it's not surprising that a high number of them got sicked more often than the average office girls.
Secondly, we have to remember that most of the cities where we mongered and met these girls are in the most urbanized, industrialized and polluted area in China: Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Haerbin, Shenyang... etc. The pollution does have an effect on people's respiratory system and hence leads to more coughing, congestion and nasal allergy. So when you see some of the people in these cities cough and split, it doesn't neccessary mean that they are sick. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean that what they are doing (coughing in people's face, spliting on the street, etc.) is right. It's just that they are so used to this way of getting the pollutant out of their system.
Honestly, having lived in the first 3 of my list of cities above in the last 5 years, I do find myself too have something in my throat from time to time when I'm in China. Yet once I've left China for a vacation, it's gone!
Sniffer
I ask because so many seem to have colds, and few ever cover their mouths when they cough. Do they cough on you during sessions if they're sick? Am I being overly germophobic?
Only twentyfive years ago, tissue paper was very difficult to find in China. The streets of Shanghai had many "spittoons" or spit buckets. I know because I was there.
There is a famous (or infamous) picture of Deng XiaoPing sitting next to Margaret Thatcher with a spittoon between them. Old habits take time to eradicate. Not so long ago, the same was true of New York and London.
Most infections are passed by hand to mouth, so wash your hands often.
Yesterday, while walking with a girlfriend on the busy streets of Wuhan, a very young lady tried to sell me roses. The girl would not take NO for answer and she pissed me off. I told her to go away and she kept pulling at my sleeve. While she distracted me, her young male partner, the Wuhan Artful Dodger, tried to pick my pocket. The trick did not work this time and they quickly slipped into the crowd.
Beware of children or adults selling roses!
Tequila Kid
11-29-05, 02:17
About children selling roses and other scams,
Most beggars are pro's, working for the local gang. They will get none or little of the money you give them.
In some cases, you will run into an authentic beggar. How to distinguish the scammer from the legitimate? I don't know. My local Chinese friends can tell - but I doubt I will know the landscape well enough anytime soon.
As a general rule - keep valuables well guarded anytime you are near strangers.
Westerners are rich targets.
This usually works for me: Don't make eye contact, never acknowledge them, never accept anything they give you, do not let them touch you.
TK
I have read that this is supposed to work like Viagra:
Satibo Capsules = 三便宝胶囊
8 pcs. are rmb 100 or so. Google for Satibo to get plenty of hits.
there was a show on cctv12 last night about a gang of 20 plus kids, all under 16 (youngest 8) that were run by three adults, all they did was pickpocket people as they crossed a busy road in hohot. the kids were all taken from xinjiang, the gang leader told their parents that they could find jobs for them in east of china, but as soon as they were out of town the kids were forced to act as thiefs, they even had a daily quota (50rmb) to steal a day. if the kids didnt meet the quota then they were beaten and not fed that day.
it is very difficult for the police to do anything about this type of crime, unless they can catch the adults, as the kids are **** they cant be arrested or charged.
this type of gang also operates kids to beg/sell flowers/steal all over china. the absolutly worst thing you can do is give these kids money. like any business, no income = close business = kids are let go.
Juno Audio
11-30-05, 10:34
Believe me, the police can do something about it, they "won't" is the word.
When did the police in China start following the law? They ARE the law! I heard one city got fed up with these kind of kids, the police just cleaned it up, don't know where the kids went, but they are not there anymore, nor did new ones showed up after the clean up.
JA
Then hopefully they will do the same soon in Beijing and Shanghai.
Hi all, Just got back from a trip to china and found some info on pricing. I don't know how valid this is as it came from a "big sister." This info is for major cities.
Beijing, Shanghai, and other major cities with a lot foreigners: In room full services start about 300-500. This is one where they send the girl to your hotel room and you can send them back if you don't like her. Overnight is usually around 1500. This is all for first timers. If you treat the girl right, they would give you their number and may be you'll get a frequent visitor discount.
Major Hotel massage girls with full service: 1100-1500. Decent massage and then they will ask if you want "special services" or "entire set" usually in putonghua. Good indicators of whether there are special services available are "how many lights in the massage room are on?" What they usually do is switch one light one for the massage and if you they offer and you accept special services they switch off the first light and turn on the second, usually on the opposite side of the room. Some even offer overnight services, but it's pricy, 2.5-3.5k
Ktv with takeout: Overnight is usually around 1500. Got this from one of the sales guys I work with. Entertainment is part of the business over there.
Happy hunting Gents.
Tequila Kid
11-30-05, 22:53
First it was too much masturbation, now I hear frequent viagra use may cause blindness.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4587191.stm
Chop Sticks
12-01-05, 02:08
I had the same experience in Wuhan with children selling roses. It doesnt matter if you are chinese or westerner, woman or man, they target anyone. Its very hard to get them away.
Prince Leo
12-01-05, 02:22
I had kids selling flowers or begging money everytime I was in GZ. I usually dodge in the nearest department store and they don't dare to go in. I did this for 7 to 8 times now, and it works everytime.
The first time I was being hassled, I was feeling sorry for the kids, as I didn't know better. I gave them 5rmb, but more kids came, and I ended up give like 50rmb. But I found out later that they cut open the zipped pockets on my cargo pants and took 1000rmb from me. It was an expensive lesson learned. I was also told that most of these kids/gangs are from Xinjiang. Be careful if you see kids begging and/or selling flowers, but try not to hurt them. They are being forced into this.
S Times.
If you read the many many posts here you see that the prices you are quoting are on the high end. I never pay such prices because I'm like Dave.
Who is Dave????
There was a guy called Dave
Who fucked a gal in a cave
He said "I know I'm a shit, that I admit
But look at the money I save!"
I'm intending on visiting Asia next year, mostly to satisfy my asian itch. I intend to either make or break my fascination with Asian women. I must admit that I don't have any real idea of where to go though. I'd like to do the tourist thing, since I'll never have enough money to do a purely sexual holiday.
So I was thinking about China since from what I've heard its probably the best quality for price in Asia. I've skimmed through many of the reports here, and in the other asian forums (Hong Kong, Japan etc), and China probably appeals to me the most. But you guys are the experts since you're living out there either full time or visiting fairly regularly.
I went to Moscow two weeks ago, and the moscow forum was a great help in my research. However, Moscow is just one city, whereas Asia is huge. lol.
So where do You think I should go? Either within China or another country entirely (I couldn't find a General thread for all of asia)
I love the slim, dark haired look that you see with Vietnamese women, but at the same time, I like the facial characteristics of Chinese women. I also really like the Japanese female look (when they're slim and in their teens) I'll freely admit that I don't know that much about Asian people/Women.
I'll have about 1000-1500 Euro spending money, although I'd prefer not to spend that much. I'm also planning on the holiday being 8-10 days in length. I only speak English, some German, and a bit of Russian.
Any advice would be handy either here or in PM's.
Thanks. Cormac
I'll have about 2k Euro spending money, although I'd prefer not to spend that much. I'm also planning on the holiday being 8-10 days in length. I only speak English, some German, and a bit of Russian.
Any advice would be handy either here or in PM's.
Thanks. Cormac
You shouldn't need even 2K Euro for a ten day adventure in China. If you were in the states, I'd recommend the Friendly Planet Beijing & Shanghai Express, a flight/hotel package for about $800-$900 including international flight, hotel, breakfast, and internal flights from Beijing to Shanghai and back. I've been to China 4 times in the last couple of years doing this, and each time the package price just blows away the best prices I can find by buying air tickets and hotel.
Try to find a package tour that just includes flight and hotel, then you are free to explore Beijing on your own...you don't need to worry about the language thing, just bring a good traveler's phrasebook and your sense of adventure! Make sure the prhasebook has a mandarin-to-English section, so Chinese people can use it to talk to you! You will find China to be modern, the people straitforward and friendly; in addition, you will get the lao wei bonus: just being a westerner makes you somewhat exotic and fascinating to meet for many people. I've always met girls in Starbucks, parks, etc. and they were not looking for money!
Another big plus is that most Chinese girls do not have the idea that sex is sinful, so they really don't think of themselves as a "bad girl" by having sex with you without being married. Since you are a short-timer in China, they know that you don't have time for a big courtship ritual even if they wanted such a thing...Enjoy, my friend!
I'll have about 1000-1500 Euro spending money, although I'd prefer not to spend that much. I'm also planning on the holiday being 8-10 days in length. I only speak English, some German, and a bit of Russian.
Any advice would be handy either here or in PM's.
Thanks. Cormac
Cormac,
Since you posted this question here, I will beg the indulgence of our China Posters/Readers for my reply. If you have no idea of what to do in Asia except 8-10 tourist holiday with some asian women thrown in for your budget of E1500 (US$1750), I would recommend the Philippines as a first time visit, mainly due to the fact that more filipinas will be able to speak english. Your budget would be US$175/day. Allocate US$40 for hotel, US$20 for food, US$10 for taxi, and you have US$100/day for women.
Traveler1234
12-02-05, 22:27
I'm intending on visiting Asia next year, mostly to satisfy my asian itch. I intend to either make or break my fascination with Asian women. I must admit that I don't have any real idea of where to go though. I'd like to do the tourist thing, since I'll never have enough money to do a purely sexual holiday.
I'll have about 1000-1500 Euro spending money, although I'd prefer not to spend that much. I'm also planning on the holiday being 8-10 days in length. I only speak English, some German, and a bit of Russian.
Any advice would be handy either here or in PM's.
Thanks. Cormac
If this is your first Asian experience, my suggestion is either Philippines or LOS (that's Thailand)... Go to both forums, read the FAQ and reports of distinction to get a feel for hotels, monger options, safety, etc. etc.
If you then have specific questions, post them on the appropriate forum. Good luck!
Cebu Local
12-03-05, 01:29
I had kids selling flowers or begging money everytime I was in GZ. I usually dodge in the nearest department store and they don't dare to go in. I did this for 7 to 8 times now, and it works everytime.
The first time I was being hassled, I was feeling sorry for the kids, as I didn't know better. I gave them 5rmb, but more kids came, and I ended up give like 50rmb. But I found out later that they cut open the zipped pockets on my cargo pants and took 1000rmb from me. It was an expensive lesson learned. I was also told that most of these kids/gangs are from Xinjiang. Be careful if you see kids begging and/or selling flowers, but try not to hurt them. They are being forced into this.
My Chinese friend carries some sort of tear gas or pepper spray.When the kids approach,He takes it out and points it in their general direction.They generally do not go closer.I do not know if it is illegal or not,but he is well connected with the local party.He explained that these kids are master theives and pickpockets and deserve little mercy
Cebu Local
12-03-05, 06:43
To those who PMed me
My friend was robbed by them before,He had his genuine Armani coat slashed and he paid over 5000RMB for the coat in addition to losing over 3000 RMB in his wallet plus cards etc.He could be excused for his hardline towards the kids given his past experience with them.
Juno Audio
12-03-05, 07:03
I totally agree with Cebu Local. That's why I always carry with me a 4 inch blade in my pocket when I walk the streets in China, when I see them coming, I just need to flash it, they know I'm not an easy target. If they still want to rob me, they better have more than one guy and one knife
JA
Prince Leo
12-03-05, 19:00
To prevent major lost of currency, I generally divide my money into 3-4 pockets, with majority of the large bills in my front jean pockets. And I also do not carry any nonessential or hard to replace IDs or important documents with me while I am in the pubic.
LittleGoomba
12-03-05, 19:38
All of your messages got me thinking about the various run-ins I've had with the little buggers over the years. A few actually interesting experiences but of course, mostly very, very annoying to bad.
I remember one time when some colleagues and I were new to China and of course not knowing any better, gave a couple of mao to some kids, the bleeding hearts that we are. Well in a flash several kids come out of nowhere and literally attached themselves to every appendage of my friends (I was the only Asian so they must of thought I was a native). Well, my friends were shocked and obviously, not knowing the culture and scared that if they hit the kids or were violent, the natives would get upset and gang up on them, they basically tried in vain to shake them off.
All of a sudden this women comes flying out of one of the stores with a really large stick and just starts bashing the living daylights out of them until they let go and run away. We were just shocked but she gave us this look like, "That's the way you deal with THAT". It was one of our more memorable lessons on the culture.
Anyways, I was thinking that while I've seen these kids in every city I've travelled to and worked in, it just occurred to me that I've never once seen them in Qingdao. I've been around this area for over two years now and the closest thing I've seen to it was this sad, pathetic little thing trying to sell flowers outside the Feelings nightclub. I'm not dumb enough to think that it doesn't exist here in some form but dare I say, could QD actually be a relatively safe haven from the roaming gangs of maleovent children?
Juno Audio
12-04-05, 00:25
Don't be too surprised, they do exist in China. It's really up to the local police if they want to tolerate this kind of activities, or if they are getting their part of the pay off. Believe it or not, this "children bagger" thing is operated much like the prostitution ring in China, it is well networked and organized, and authorities are getting their cut. While the girls in prostitution is close to 30 to 40% involuntary (my opinion from my own research), the street beggars are 99% tricked into the business, if not a 100%. I mean what parents would knowingly let their children follow someone to the big city for the purpose of begging? Or the kids just got tired of working in the factories, so they want to try selling flowers and stealing instead. These kids get beat if they don't make 50RMB a day! Sometimes the punishment is withholding food! (again, this is my opinion from my own research)
Like anything else in China, the authorities will turn a blind eye to it if they are getting paid off. Learn to live with it, and know how to protect yourself, friends.
JA
Tinybobo1002
12-05-05, 03:15
Hi all, Just got back from a trip to china and found some info on pricing. I don't know how valid this is as it came from a "big sister." This info is for major cities.
Beijing, Shanghai, and other major cities with a lot foreigners: In room full services start about 300-500. This is one where they send the girl to your hotel room and you can send them back if you don't like her. Overnight is usually around 1500. This is all for first timers. If you treat the girl right, they would give you their number and may be you'll get a frequent visitor discount.
Major Hotel massage girls with full service: 1100-1500. Decent massage and then they will ask if you want "special services" or "entire set" usually in putonghua. Good indicators of whether there are special services available are "how many lights in the massage room are on?" What they usually do is switch one light one for the massage and if you they offer and you accept special services they switch off the first light and turn on the second, usually on the opposite side of the room. Some even offer overnight services, but it's pricy, 2.5-3.5k
Ktv with takeout: Overnight is usually around 1500. Got this from one of the sales guys I work with. Entertainment is part of the business over there.
Happy hunting Gents.
S Times,
Price in China is "regulated" by the operators/gangs/police and the supply and demand. Though nobody has the exact price, but for non-Chinese including aliens and overseas Chinese BBS is about 150 to 250, SW 150 to 400, massage (tei fei and tipes) about 700, KTV usually 2-6-10. Anything more than these can be ripoffs.
Of course, in some high end places in Shanghai and Beijing, they can charge you 2 to 3K per night, but you can find similar services much cheaper than that.
In Dongguan, the sex capital in China (or the world?), BBS is 150 to 200, massage about 500 and KTV 1-2-5 (some 2-5-8).
Don't tell me you can pay more for better service. Whether you find better service always depends how much information you have. That's why this site is so valuable.
Guys,
Thanks for the suggestions. I've pored over the other forums, and checked the photo sections to guide me into which asian women appeal the most. I'm going to roll the dice on China, so I'll be looking into some nights in both Beijing & Shanghai.
Cheers for the info, and I look forward to reading your posts about these areas, lol.
Cormac
10 days in China is really nothing. You will see very little and not have enough time. This is a very big and crowded country.
You only have ten days. Go to Thailand and enjoy the beautiful
beaches. You will have more money than you need.
Traveler1234
12-08-05, 11:58
Guys,
Thanks for the suggestions. I've pored over the other forums, and checked the photo sections to guide me into which asian women appeal the most. I'm going to roll the dice on China, so I'll be looking into some nights in both Beijing & Shanghai.
Cheers for the info, and I look forward to reading your posts about these areas, lol.
Cormac
I think you shoul visit LOS if your main objective is to monger...but best of luck and hope to see some of your FR soon.
This time of year, it's cold in Beijing :-)
OldAsiaHand
12-09-05, 09:04
Core2000,
You have selected the 2 most expensive places for pussy in China.
Just my POV.
OAH
Guys,
Thanks for the suggestions. I've pored over the other forums, and checked the photo sections to guide me into which asian women appeal the most. I'm going to roll the dice on China, so I'll be looking into some nights in both Beijing & Shanghai.
Cheers for the info, and I look forward to reading your posts about these areas, lol.
Cormac
Traveler1234
12-09-05, 15:20
Core2000,
You have selected the 2 most expensive places for pussy in China.
Just my POV.
OAH
You're absolutely right, and for a newbie (I also assumes speaks no Chinese), going to be in for some surprises or at least very expensive tuition fees!
I don't recall Core2000 saying he was coming to the other side of the world and needed to find the cheapest sex he could possibly find. To someone who hasn't been to China, or even Asia before, both Beijing and Shanghai are logical places to go - these are 2 of the most exciting and vibrant cities on the planet. And compared to prices in America or Europe, it's still quite a bargain to monger in those places.
Why do you guys want to rain on his parade ? cripes
Travel Guy
12-10-05, 18:30
I came a cross a web site asianbabecams.com and sexyasiancams.com
These are site that you can talk to the girl and then for fee you can take them to private and they will do what you ask.
My question is does anyone know of other sites like these. If you do pleas post them or pm to me .
Tinybobo1002
12-10-05, 20:19
You're absolutely right, and for a newbie (I also assumes speaks no Chinese), going to be in for some surprises or at least very expensive tuition fees!
If cost is the only consideration, Dongguan is the destination. For a good combination of cheap sex and traveling, my first pick is Yunan. Trust me, Yunan is the best for non-Chinese speaking aliens.
If BJ or SH, a newbie will need USD 180 a day for a 3 star hotel, decent food and "cheap" BBS or SW sex, but in Yunan you can get by with 80.
If cost is the only consideration, Dongguan is the destination. For a good combination of cheap sex and traveling, my first pick is Yunan. Trust me, Yunan is the best for non-Chinese speaking aliens.
If BJ or SH, a newbie will need USD 180 a day for a 3 star hotel, decent food and "cheap" BBS or SW sex, but in Yunan you can get by with 80. Hi Tatyu,
Thanks for the tip, I have only spent time in Beijing and Qingdao, and sure found Beijing to be expensive, eg: Holiday Inn Lido. Maggies, HRC, Pig & Whistle.
And nobody spoke English in Qingdao. Well hardly anyone. Still had a good time though.
Are there more English speakers in Yunan? What's the attraction, why is it best of non-Chinese speakers.
Thanks for any info.
Willie
Hey Mongers,
There used to be a websited called Fun In China that advertised for "social escorts" they had some hot girls, but the site is down.
Anyone know anything about that or if the operation is still around?
Besides ****** and 161sex are there other good sites to prepare for my next trip through HK or in Beijing?
Thanks, Daz
If cost is the only consideration, Dongguan is the destination. For a good combination of cheap sex and traveling, my first pick is Yunan. Trust me, Yunan is the best for non-Chinese speaking aliens.
If BJ or SH, a newbie will need USD 180 a day for a 3 star hotel, decent food and "cheap" BBS or SW sex, but in Yunan you can get by with 80.Cost is always a factor, lol. Within certain parameters of course.
No to be honest, I'm going for the experience of it all. The mongering is a major influence, since I want to pop my asian cherry is a good way. So while I have the money there, I'll be careful with it. Yunan & Dongguan sound interesting, and I'm going to spend some time researching about them.
Mostly its a holiday to relax (punishing workload at home normally) and to get a fair amount of sex
I've been looking through the posts made by the many mongers in China, and believe me they've been a great help for me to understand some of the differences over there. However, Its also highlighted how naive I am. Sure I've partook of the mongering in Western Europe and Russia, but thats rather conventional (standard sex) and rarely does it involve new techniques/practices.
However, most of the posts about China involve some reference to massage (whether foot or other), actual sex, or more teasing styles. I was wondering if someone could list out the various types of massage, their rough cost, what it entails, and generally what sexual relief comes from it? Not too explicit, but when someone mentions a foot massage, I think of a foot massage from the West (which is not sexual by any means). I think there's alot of variation wherby you could enter expecting something vaguely sexual, and leave after receiving a totally "normal" non-sexual massage. I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well enough, lol.
Also are the more extreme techniques (electricity, cold etc) common or just something you might be suprised with? Are these techniques that the average chinese man avails of, or are they tourist/ex-pat gimmics?
I suppose I'm asking is that when visiting a massage location, what services should a beginner try out for almost guaranteed satisfaction? lol.
Time Magazine lead article last week. Mao is rolling in his grave.
Sex, Please--We're Young and Chinese
A generation after Mao suits, China is coping with an epidemic of free love
By HANNAH BEECH
Posted Monday, Dec. 05, 2005
Li Li has lost exact count of how many men she has bedded, but she knows the number is far above 100. "I don't keep statistics, " says the former journalist, 27. But she isn't averse to kissing and telling. For the past couple of years, Li has kept a blog--written under the pen name Muzi Mei--that has chronicled everything from her penchant for orgies and Internet dating to her skepticism toward marriage when it means staying faithful to one man. This fall the Beijing resident posted a recording of her own lovemaking sounds that would make Paris Hilton blush. More than 50, 000 people simultaneously tried to download the 25-minute podcast, crashing the host server. Despite government attempts to censor it, the sex diary is so popular that Li's pen name is intermittently the most searched keyword on China's top search engine. "I express my freedom through sex, " says Li, unapologetically. "It's my life, and I can do what I want. "
Freedom in the bedroom is a novel concept in China, where for decades communist minders dictated most aspects of people's private lives. Dressed in baggy Mao suits--hardly outfits to set the pulse racing--citizens of the People's Republic had to ask permission from local officials on everything from whom to marry to what kind of birth control to use. But these days many Chinese are walking on the wilder side. Sparked by the easing of government control over individual lifestyle choices and the spread of more permissive, Western attitudes toward sex, Chinese are copulating earlier, more often and with more partners than ever before. Today 70% of Beijing residents say they have had sexual relations before marriage, compared with just 15. 5% in 1989, according to Li Yinhe, a sociologist at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. A survey taken last January of seven major Chinese cities found that among those 14 to 20, the average age of first sexual experience was 17. 4, while those 31 to 40 had lost their virginity much later, at 24. 1 years old. Says Fu Zhen, 28, a teacher in Shanghai: "My parents' only entertainment came from revolutionary movies, so they were very conservative about sex. My generation, we see everything from everywhere, and we are hungry for new experiences. " As if to underline the point, Fu has adopted the nickname Carrie--as in Bradshaw, of Sex and the City.
All this hanky-panky is spawning new industries. Lingerie boutiques are proliferating in the big cities, and last month's Sex Culture Festival in the southern city of Guangzhou attracted more than 50, 000 people eager to procure the very latest in adult toys--70% of which are now manufactured in China. One of the most popular? The "erotic butterfly, " specially designed for women.
But China's sexual revolution has also brought unpleasant side effects. Although sex education is supposedly mandatory in Chinese middle schools, "many older teachers are too embarrassed, so they tear out the pages about sex from the textbooks, " says Hu Peicheng, secretary-general of the China Sexology Association in Beijing. With little knowledge of birth control, an increasing number of unmarried women are getting pregnant in a culture in which single motherhood is still taboo. A survey by Shanghai medical researcher Yan Fengting found that 65% of urban women undergoing abortions in 2004 were single, compared with just 25% in 1999. Rates of sexually transmitted diseases are skyrocketing too, with HIV infections growing most quickly among Chinese 15 to 24 years old. Brothels barely disguised as beauty salons crowd the streets of China's big cities, while certain suburbs are known as "concubine villages" because of their high concentration of mistresses.
Those extra temptations--which the communists largely eradicated after taking power in 1949--have wreaked havoc on marriages, with 1. 6 million Chinese couples divorcing in 2004, a 21% rise from the year before, according to the Ministry of Civil Affairs. "Before in society, we had a sense of right and wrong, " says the China Sexology Association's Hu. "Now, we can do whatever we want. But do we have any moral standards left? "
Younger Chinese aren't too concerned. A poll by a Beijing magazine found that one-third of Chinese under the age of 26 had no problem with extramarital affairs. In a country where there's little political autonomy for young people, at least there's plenty of free love. "Maybe in the past, everyone was obedient and listened to the old grannies who lectured on who you could have sex with and in what position, " says blogger Li. "But we don't have time to listen. We're too busy having sex. "
OldAsiaHand
12-16-05, 05:55
Lao Ma:
I know you are an advocate of Beijing having been there for quite some time. For qualifications purposes, I have lived in Beijing, Shanghai, Guanghzhou and Shenzhen and have mongered in many more Chinese cities, towns and villages.
The purpose of this forum is to exchange information for the purpose of having sex with women, therefore, I assumed that his query was related to pussy. I may differ in opinion on your "vibrant city" theory, however, this is not the forum to debate that issue.
IMHO, S. China, especially DG, is the best mongering destination in China in terms quality, variety, service, options, value, etc. Although, Beijing may be best for sightseeing and Shanghai as a place for foreigners to live, they are not mongering destinations per se.
Having said all that, I would still recommend Thailand or The Philippines for a newbie to break into the Asia P4P scene. English is more widely spoken and the girls are more foreigner friendly.
Just my POV.
OAH
I don't recall Core2000 saying he was coming to the other side of the world and needed to find the cheapest sex he could possibly find. To someone who hasn't been to China, or even Asia before, both Beijing and Shanghai are logical places to go - these are 2 of the most exciting and vibrant cities on the planet. And compared to prices in America or Europe, it's still quite a bargain to monger in those places.
Why do you guys want to rain on his parade ? cripes
Right on - I understand your points. Mine simply was that he had made a choice, and after he posted his choice, others piped in on why another place was better or cheaper. After he decided, in my opinion, it was a waste of time to sugggest he re-consider.
As for a first timer to China, I'll stick by my thoughts that Shanghai or Beijing are the natural choices.
You've got me beat on places lived - I've only lived in Sydney, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Tokyo, and Beijing.
Anyway, this is a non-issue
St Germain
12-22-05, 10:45
Does anyone know if absinthe is easily available in China? A search of this forum revealed nothing. Neither did google.
I've never tried absinthe, but I understand it can get people (e.g. freebies) in the mood.
If anyone can tell me where to get absinthe around here, particularly in Shanghai, I would much appreciate it.
Count
Does anyone know if absinthe is easily available in China? A search of this forum revealed nothing. Neither did google.
I've never tried absinthe, but I understand it can get people (e.g. freebies) in the mood.
If anyone can tell me where to get absinthe around here, particularly in Shanghai, I would much appreciate it.
Count
Not sure about China but I tried it on my last TW trip in a regular bar (New York New York). Two glasses didn't do much for me. I was told you have to have 4 or so before you feel the effect (other than the alcohol). It has a very very strong Anise taste so you or your date needs to be able to handle that.
Hope this helps a little :-)
Cheers!
this is China - of course it can be found. I've seen it 3 or 4 times are year at bars that will have absinthe parties. But I haven't seen it at the retail level. I've tried it a few times in Europe - I don't know what the big deal is - a lot of it's appeal is based in myth. I didn't hallucinate or become an artist or anything. It kind of looks like Green River (an american soft drink) - it's a really bright green.
With fake and bootleg booze being such a big problem here, I'd advise EXTREME caution - much safer to ask a friend in Europe to bring a bottle for you. Because many automobile antifreezes have a green color to them, the unscrupulous could cut the real thing with the antifreeze; then you'd have a dead person on your hands. Lotta shady characters in the unregulated liquor industry in China.
I've never heard of absinthe being an aphrodisiac - more like a thc reefer high, but only a little. It's booze.
Deep Fritz
12-23-05, 13:35
Does anyone know if absinthe is easily available in China? A search of this forum revealed nothing. Neither did google.
I've never tried absinthe, but I understand it can get people (e.g. freebies) in the mood.
If anyone can tell me where to get absinthe around here, particularly in Shanghai, I would much appreciate it.
CountI have seen it in bars in Shanghai, at least some green drinks claimed to have the content of wormwood, - an argument for a special price!
I know it from my grandmother: she used it as a medicine for almost all sicknesses in a big family.
The research shows no specific effects beside the high content of alcohol.
Wormwood as the substance which should create some special feelings failed in the studies to do so.
I have seen it in bars in Shanghai, at least some green drinks claimed to have the content of wormwood, - an argument for a special price!
I know it from my grandmother: she used it as a medicine for almost all sicknesses in a big family.
The research shows no specific effects beside the high content of alcohol.
Wormwood as the substance which should create some special feelings failed in the studies to do so.
Is it just me or does the name "wormwood" imply something BAD happening to your privates??? :D
I have come across something that is a bit off topic, but to whom is may concern it is very important to know.
http://www.china-trademarks.info
Hi,
Will be in Ho Chi Minh in two weeks.
Can anywone mail me a hotel that's GF and any good bar info?
Many thanks
Do many speak English in China, thanks.
OldAsiaHand
12-26-05, 03:10
I Jags,
You will only find English widely spoken at 5 star hotels and foreign invested enterprises. On the street and on the hunt, rarely.
OAH
Do many speak English in China, thanks.
While I have visited only a few times, I am surprised by the number of my prey (college girls) who speak passable enlish
Orientalovers
12-27-05, 05:30
I Jags,
Dont worry about the communication barrier in China. You are always welcome to visit China eventhough you cant speak Chinese. You will rarely find English spoken people in many places, but just learn a few words like 'nin hao' (means How are u?), xie xie (means Thank you), wo ai ni (means I Love u) you will be pleased by the Chinese.
Welcome to the orient!
SE Asia Joe
12-27-05, 06:25
Been asking the below question on many boards - and it was Cebu Local of our ISG board who gave me the lead. Many thanks Cebu Local.
/////////
Holding a Canadian passport but resident of Hong Kong, I have a 3 year multiple entry visa to China. Unfortunately though, every time I arrive/depart China, I get one more stamp on my passport which have now practically covered my whole passport/am running out of pages.
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps.
This Canadian told me that he got this piece of paper from some PRC government department – NOT from Canada. Unfortunately, I didn’t really catch the proper name of the PRC government department/shop and have up to now not been able to buy one of these pieces of paper.
Does anybody here know where I can get this? /////
I've used Cebu Locals' lead and found out that basically one gets this piece of paper when crossing over to Zhuhai from Macau (as so many Macau residents travel into Zhuhai multiple times). When crossing, I would need to go to the 2nd floor and obtain this paper from the immigration/visa office there. The fone number where I got this information from is 86-756-815-6512 (I finally got this number after calling 6 different numbers - incredible!!).
Unfortunately, I've been quite busy these days and not yet able to go to Macau - and then cross over the Zhuhai just to get this paper YET. Wondering if anybody here knows anything more about this matter/can advise how correct my info is? Also, as far as I know, I can then use this paper not only in Zhuhai, but also at other border crossings into China
Many thanks
SEAsia Joe
Thanks for the advice and information.
Cp Express
12-27-05, 12:58
Hi,
Will be in Ho Chi Minh in two weeks.
Can anywone mail me a hotel that's GF and any good bar info?
Many thanksI think ho chi minh city is in Vietnam.
Maybe post it there for better results?
CPX
Kinda Nasty
12-29-05, 19:33
Anyone collected enough data to guess where the greatest concentration of adult hairless pussy is in China? From the bits and pieces I've put together, it seems the southern Chinese are less hairy and that parts of Guangdong and Yunnan provinces might hold promise, though I've never been able to narrow it down further.
Fast Eddie 48
12-30-05, 07:24
I was having problem accessing wsg forum when i was in china internet cafe
using internet explore , please let me know which web site to use instead.
fast eddie 48
I was having problem accessing wsg forum when i was in china internet cafe
using internet explore , please let me know which web site to use instead.
fast eddie 48
I had the same problem in China. Some internet cafe block specific sites like X-Rated, 141, 161, sammy, and WSG. I don't believe you can get around this with the cafe's computer. If it's you own computer you can, when accessing the internet in your hotel. I recall somebody posted information about using a different proxy or something on your own computer.
From what I have been reading, it sounds like the "Annual Chinese New Year" crack down has started in some areas. ( It's Year of the Dog and January 29, 2006 is the first day of the New Year ). Roofff, roffff, has any slept with any dogs. Then, be careful, there's usually an increase in petty crime during this time.
Weelock
Last time I crossed Zhuhai, I happened to follow another Canadian passport holder who had a SEPARATE piece of paper that the PRC immigration used to put his stamp on - because his pasport was also getting full of these PRC stamps.
That paper is 104 x 152mm and has 8 chop spaces on each side. There are a few different, but vaguely similar papers. You find a good one below.
Just use MS Word and a laser printer and print your own. Use a low quality ivory paper to make it use more authentic.
The trick is to get the first chop. After that it's OK and others will follow.
PS: SE Asia Joe, sorry that it took so long....
Cebu Local
12-30-05, 12:59
That paper is 104 x 152mm and has 8 chop spaces on each side. There are a few different, but vaguely similar papers. You find a good one below.
Just use MS Word and a laser printer and print your own. Use a low quality ivory paper to make it use more authentic.
The trick is to get the first chop. After that it's OK and others will follow.
PS: SE Asia Joe, sorry that it took so long....
I asked my friend about this,he warned me that if you are CAUGHT using forged visa papers,You will have your visa cancelled and you will be jailed then deported from China.Make sure your copy is well done.Btw SEA Joe,I got my paper on the 2nd floor just like you said,It only took 10 minutes to get it,Thanks
i use a vpn to my hk computer routing all internet traffic through the vpn, which solves all the blocking problem at the cost of the download speed in china being reduced to the upload speed of the vpn server. but still workable even for skype, which i heard they are going to block also.
SE Asia Joe
12-31-05, 05:11
Thanks guys - gives me a warm feeling during this Festive Season to see how ISG can and should work. Caring, sharing and informing.
Now I just need to haul my young ass off to Macau - gonna take CB's advise and NOT risk getting it hauled off to the clinker for just being lazy by forging an official document!
BTW guys - have you used this paper at OTHER China border entries besides Zhuhai and Shenzhen/does it work other entry point?
Thanks and a Happy New Year to you and yours (both paid and unpaid ones!!)
SE Asia Joe
I asked my friend about this,he warned me that if you are CAUGHT using forged visa papers,You will have your visa cancelled and you will be jailed ..........
...and possibly shoot, quartered and minced.
But that paper is not a document. It's just a simple paper. You can just use it as you please. Whether people chop on it or not depends on them. Some do, some don't.
But don't use it when you passport is already full. You risk that they don't chop on it - and you will be refused entry.
You can start using it on a half full passport. Once the first chop is in it's easier to get more. And leave the papers in when you aplly a new visa - specially if your last chop is on that paper.
For people which have some time to spend chat rooms are really a good soucing ground. It can take some time. After some time you get an feeling who may, or may not is layable.
I suggest to go with the truth. If you are married, say so. It will not have a big impact on your chances.
My GZ friend probably was a virgin. Sex was new to her (if I can really that story) - but she got really fast into it and enjoys it more then me know. She went from total darkness only to some extra masturbation in a short period of time.
But there is a nasty side effect: I have been a few times asked for money. She wants a few 1000 RMB to continue her education. During a stroll in the city she also had a look into a phone shop, selected a nice new cell phone - and had a deep a look into my eyes. But sorry.......
So, be prepared from the chat fall out.....
SE Asia Joe
01-04-06, 09:46
Tried getting this piece of paper going thru Huangang and Sha Tou Jiao past week-end. NO Luck YET! Spent a good bit of time enquiring and the guy calling around etc and in the end, the Huangang officals told me that they only issue these papers to dilomatic Passport holders while the Sha Tou Jiao guys plainly told me that it was the first time they've seen such a paper (I printed out what you provided). Guess I'll jst have to go to Zhu hai and hope that I have better luck there!
Thanks DayNight
SE Asia Joe
Tried getting this piece of paper going thru Huangang and Sha Tou Jiao past week-end. NO Luck YET! Spent a good bit of time enquiring and the guy calling around etc and in the end, the Huangang officals told me that they only issue these papers to dilomatic Passport holders while the Sha Tou Jiao guys plainly told me that it was the first time they've seen such a paper (I printed out what you provided). Guess I'll jst have to go to Zhu hai and hope that I have better luck there!
Thanks DayNight
SE Asia Joe
I think it would be a good strategy to tell them that this is your last form, that you got it in Zhuhai, and ask them if they have more.....
Hi guys,
When in Shanghai last year I used a website for the services of a tour guide. It was not funinchina which appears to be offline, but another which i've forgotten. It had a range for girls in different cities with pictures of the girls and the type of service they provide and their daily rates. A very basic setup, but fun to use.
Any help will be appreciated
Sporty,
Check out www.thatsgz.com.
There you can find the link.
Mac 2
Hi guys,
When in Shanghai last year I used a website for the services of a tour guide. It was not funinchina which appears to be offline, but another which i've forgotten. It had a range for girls in different cities with pictures of the girls and the type of service they provide and their daily rates. A very basic setup, but fun to use.
Any help will be appreciated
Sporty,
Check out www.thatsgz.com.
Mac 2Or Kanxiqi.com?
btw. does anybody have experience with them? hired a tour guide for next month.
Thanks in advance,
Mighty
For those of you who have not read them, the stories posted by Evil are a terrific read. Tiger posted them under Reports of Destinction.
Many years ago, I had my very first Thai girl from the Grace Hotel. Last time I visited I quickly head for the exit. His description of it is a work of art indeed.
Thank you Evil, and thank you Tiger.
In top 3 order
Which is best city in China for girls!
No1
No2
No3
OldAsiaHand
01-14-06, 06:45
Patterson:
IMHO, please see my reco below.
OAH
In top 3 order
Which is best city in China for girls!
No1: ChangPing
No2: ChongQing
No3: Shenzhen
OAH
Cheers
Anybody else pls
you can also get around all blocked sites by using a proxy. if you use firefox instead of ie, try tor. tor gives the added bonus of complete anonymity. it is slow though.
i use a vpn to my hk computer routing all internet traffic through the vpn, which solves all the blocking problem at the cost of the download speed in china being reduced to the upload speed of the vpn server. but still workable even for skype, which i heard they are going to block also.
Shanghai Daily. January 14-15. Page A3
Three guys got about ten years each for promoting prostitution.
Some guy discovered pictures of his girlfriend on a local sex website. He went to the police. They investigated. The girl said she had been forced into the trade by the gang and they forced her to pose for the pictures.
The police said the gang targeted innocent young girls.
Maybe usefull to some...
I put this also up the photosection, but I believe it's worth to be promoted a bit more.
Those into freeby action may find this information very valuable one day.
China has people which throw themself in front of cars to get money, and I am sure there are a good number of girls which want to get pregant for the same reason. Money.
If you have an condom accident, or grave doubt that you may got the girl pregnant, read on....
In China you can buy the "Morning After Pill". It's a high hormon dose which works best up to 72 hours after intercourse, and has some effect up to 120 hours after.
Some packages have 2 half dose pills, some work with one pill. The pill is very small and oval shape. It can be easily put into some food items and get consumed unnoticed. The 1-pill pack is RMB10 - 15, the 2-pill pack is a bit cheaper.
It's available in any pill shop over the counter. There are a few different brands, but the active substance is probably the same.
Whynot0203
01-17-06, 03:51
I do not know about the one with 1 pill.
The 2 pills packet works well for my freebie. Once duing a hot session with my freebie she says it's ok with rubber and I went for it but later I got cold feet and asked her to get the pills. She bought the 2 pill packet.
The first pill must be taken within 24 hours of depositing your sperm into her and the second pill 12 hours after the first. In between this 36 hours you can continue without rubber.
Bob Builder
01-17-06, 04:19
Me thinks that most mongers here would be like the driver of the car that hits someone in China....Long gone!
And if the girl deliberately got pregnant, how are you going to force her to take the pill as you will only find out much later? Or are you suggesting feeding one of these to every gal after every session?
Tequila Kid
01-17-06, 19:26
Any side effects from using the pill(s)?
ER
Is anyone knows if there is SM service in China?
Any side effects from using the pill(s)?
ER
"They are rarely encountered, but may include headache, stomach ache, breast tenderness, vaginal ‘spotting’ of blood and dizziness. The next period may be a few days earlier or later than expected."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning-after_pill
St Germain
01-19-06, 03:59
"They are rarely encountered, but may include headache, stomach ache, breast tenderness, vaginal ‘spotting’ of blood and dizziness. The next period may be a few days earlier or later than expected."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning-after_pill
I don't know about the stomach ache, etc., but I do know that the morning after pill can make her menstrual cycle go haywire. A gf of mine took the pill last year and it knocked her next period loose almost right away, about 10 days ahead of schedule. So many girls are understandably hesistant to use the pill. I think the pill is ok for an emergency, but it's not a good idea to rely on it on a regular basis.
Juno Audio
01-19-06, 12:58
Shanghai Daily. January 14-15. Page A3
Three guys got about ten years each for promoting prostitution.
Some guy discovered pictures of his girlfriend on a local sex website. He went to the police. They investigated. The girl said she had been forced into the trade by the gang and they forced her to pose for the pictures.
The police said the gang targeted innocent young girls.
Three down, thousands to go....
Those police are genius with statements like that....lol
Traveler1234
01-19-06, 18:39
Not sure where this should be posted -- since this has the widest number of hits, here it is. Anyone can feel free to re-post to more relevant site.
Today's WSJ article where Google Gets Subpoena In Federal Porn Probe:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB113768643206350928.html?mod=home_whats_news_us
First sentence of article reads:
The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.
take this as a warning to all!
i met a gal in a chat room. chatted, had sex, the usual stuff. met her a few times. i love sex, she loved me. so far still acceptable.
after the last session she tells me she wants a baby. must be gone crazy. next day she tells me that she secretly put my sperm into her pussy. now that got me worried quite a bit at first.
but later i relaxed a little. she had no sperm access. sperm was secured by a thin film of latex. condoms were filled with water after sex (so they don't float for ages) and discharge in the loo. btw, for those who don't know, water kills sperm instantly due to osmotic shock.
she obviously confused precum with sperm. i did some research on precum. precum does not contain any sperm at all. it's a myth. precum after orgasm *may* contain some sperm. but i usually had a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), or a shower with a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).
so her chances to have gotten pregnant are very, very remote. to better my chances further i visited her 2 days later and slipt her a single 25mg "morning after pill" in the food.
so, take care of love mad gals. next time i hear the word 'love' i dump them!
OAH,
I think you said ChangPing was #1. Which ChangPing were you talkin about. Mapquest lists about 5.
Patterson:
IMHO, please see my reco below.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
01-22-06, 00:34
Wanabee:
ChangPing in Dongguan, Guangdong.
OAH
OAH,
I think you said ChangPing was #1. Which ChangPing were you talkin about. Mapquest lists about 5.
The Dongguan train station is in Changping. The taxis outside do not use meters. The standard charge is 15rmb by taxi or 5rmb for motor cycle. Go to the Ya Lan Hotel. I paid 188rmb for a very nice room, but Cronin told me he only paid 148rmb. The mama's are waiting for you on the streets outside this hotel. Give 100 to mama and 100 to the girl when you finish.
I think that the girls in the Ya Lan Saloon across the street are not the best available.
SidTheSexist
01-24-06, 04:07
guangzhou: sales of adult [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) are booming as residents prepare themselves for long-haul journeys home on crowded trains for lunar new year.
many supermarkets in foshan, a city in south china's guangdong province, have reported an increase in sales of about 50 per cent.
the products, designed for incontinence, have been repositioned at prominent places on shop shelves since the start of the peak travel season for spring festival began on january 14, guangzhou-based yangcheng evening news reported.
the number of train seats for people returning home for family reunions are limited because of the huge demand in the period.
it means large numbers of passengers have to buy standing-only tickets and have to jam into all corners of carriages, even in toilets.
this often makes it almost impossible for passengers to pass through and reach the toilets and they are forced to go without relieving themselves for the whole journey.
source: china daily
Lustforthrust
01-28-06, 06:13
guangzhou: sales of adult [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) are booming as residents prepare themselves for long-haul journeys home on crowded trains for lunar new year.
many supermarkets in foshan, a city in south china's guangdong province, have reported an increase in sales of about 50 per cent.
the products, designed for incontinence, have been repositioned at prominent places on shop shelves since the start of the peak travel season for spring festival began on january 14, guangzhou-based yangcheng evening news reported.
the number of train seats for people returning home for family reunions are limited because of the huge demand in the period.
it means large numbers of passengers have to buy standing-only tickets and have to jam into all corners of carriages, even in toilets.
this often makes it almost impossible for passengers to pass through and reach the toilets and they are forced to go without relieving themselves for the whole journey.
source: china daily
good grief!
Lustforthrust
01-28-06, 06:36
Cayman Islands (in the Carribean).
Initially I thought they (30 something Chinese women in Cheongsams) were mail-order brides but no, this is a place for the extremely well-off. And they had the hired-hole looks about them, albeit the posh hh look.
The rental-yield here is thrice that of HK (which is pretty bleak).
Plenty of sexy Indian girls - who call themselves coolies like they do in Trinidad & Tobago, Guyana and other parts of the Carribean.
Fcuking boring otherwise, sheesh!
here is something interresting i found in another forum. i don't know if everything is correct, so if there are errors, a correction would be appreciated.
tiger
chinese acronym
here are some common chinese acronym, i translate it directly for better understanding, hope it will help...
夜总会里的性游戏、暗语、代号收集总汇
连体婴：全裸互吻30秒。(30s frenching in nude)
秀舞：指小姐在包厢内跳艳舞给客人看。 (strip show in cubicle or room)
洗脸：用私处在客人脸上磨蹭。 (pussy brushing face)
骑马：倒坐在客人大腿上随意摆动。 (rideo riding - gal on client laps)
封包：将毛巾挂在包厢门外，以表示不愿外人进入之意。towel hang outside cubicle to indicate no entry, got business inside)
出场：带小姐去外面，分全场跟半场。(bring gal out)
激情百家乐：由大家轮流做庄，闲家可押任何指定动作，例：全裸互吻30 等。 (adult roulette games)
国王与我：以股子定输赢，赢家可指定输家任何动作，例：吸奶头30秒等 (adult dice game)
萤火虫：将点燃的香烟放入后庭，关灯后在包厢内四处跳跃。 (dance with lighted cigarette in anus)
水果盘：小姐在沙发平躺，将水果放置身体任一部位，由客人幪眼以嘴搜寻。 (fruit dish - fruit on gal body, blindfolded client in search for these fruit)
冰火五重天：以冰块及热茶轮流用口吸奶头或私处。 (ice and warm tea treatment on breast and penis)
溜小鸟：将卷筒卫生纸搓揉成绳状，一端绑在男人重要部位上绕场。(tissue wrap on penis..)
钓鲍鱼：将卷筒卫生纸搓揉成绳状，一端塞在女人重要部位内绕场。 (similar tissue wrap on gals parts)
神仙水：将尿渗在酒里喝下去。 drink [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) in wine glass
长寿酒：意指将男人重要部位放在酒杯中搅拌后的酒。 sip beer /wine with penis
女儿红：将脚趾头放在客人嘴中，酒由大腿倒下顺流至口。 (lip wine flow from leg to toe)
桃花香：酒由小姐私处倒下顺流至口。beer from gal ****.
猴儿酒：酒由客人私处倒下顺流至口。 beer from male client penis.
山泉酒：将酒由股沟或乳沟间倒下顺流至口。 beer from breasts.
点唱机：两人全裸拥抱，转圈唱完一首歌。 naked cudding for a complete song play.
奶油派：将奶油涂抹在异性身体任一部位，用舌头舔完，依部位不同派名不一。lip milk on the body
枪王打通关：由小姐帮客人打枪3次，依次逐一猜拳，赢换下位，输再打3次。game- losser will masturbate by the gal 3 times, skip if win the fist/fingers games
骨场 指压店 。finger massage
骨女 按摩女郎 。sauna gal
桑拿 三温暖。 sauna
浴室 三温暖。 sauna/ turkey bath
北姑 大陆妹。 mainlander gal
鬼妹 金丝猫。 pussycat of westerner/caucasian
冰火五重天 女性先含冰水吹萧，换热茶后再吹一次。 cold/warm blow job
毒龙钻 舔屁眼。 anal job
观音坐莲 女上男下之姿势。 gal on rideo
打飞机 打手枪。 masturbate
打真军 打炮。 fuck job
代支 服务费 。service fee
砌 干。 fuck
后门 屁眼。 back entry - anal
细佬 男人的小弟弟。 your dicks / penis
鲍鱼 女人的性器官。 gal's **** / vigina
春袋、袋袋 男性的阴囊。 condom
起双飞 一皇二后的玩法。 3some-1 guy 2 gals
出火 射精。 cum,
颜射 将精液喷向荡女之芳容。cum on face
上海式按摩 纯按摩，指压功夫一流。shanghai style - finger massage
韩式松骨 korean style
泰式按摩 thai massage
欧式按摩 euro massage
中式按摩（hand job） 按摩90分钟再打手枪 (90 min msg with handjob)
日式按摩、自由式按摩 全套服务，共约两粒钟 (freestyle msg-full course about 2 hrs)
短房 休息宾馆房 short time at hotel room
街钟 出场费 street fee
台钟 坐台费 sitting fee - hourly fee for gal companion.
出街 带出场 barfine, pay to bring gal out
金鱼缸 供嫖客挑选小姐们的玻璃橱窗（单向透光）fishbowl concept
茶舞 夜总会下午场（4-11 pm) tea (dance) hours
晚舞 夜总会晚场（12-3 am） evening (dance) hours
fl:发廊 freelance
ml:make love
bj:口交 blow job
hj,fj:飞机 hand job, fuck job
OK guys I looks like the trip is on this year for CHINA where is the BEST place to go to get some action would it be Shainghai ? or some place else ? PLEASE let me know as I am very interested in going to CHINA this year from the looks of the ladies there is a great place also whats the cost in USD$$$ for ST and LT thanks guys .
I'm heading to CHINA later this year so where should I go for the best ACTION?
Would it be Shanghai, or some place else?
Let me know guys.
Gerbermultit
02-03-06, 00:29
Here is something interresting I found in another forum. I don't know if everything is correct, so if there are errors, a correction would be appreciated.
TigerThen I don't suppose you could translate to Pinyin? I'll never learn all those goofy characters.
Anyone know where you can find a similar list writen in pinyin?
Gerb
Hi,
In April i go to the first time in Chine (Beijing, Shanghai, ...).
Where can find informations how to do to get girls.
Which are the traps to be avoided?
GF?
To take pictures of the girls, no problem?
The girls for all the night, more than one shot?
French kiss, extra?
Thanks for your help
The french manFrench Kisses, like breakfasts, are included in your tour package.
Gualtier Malde
02-03-06, 18:59
As has been said many many times before, RTFF (Read the Forum First). There is a TON of information available to answer your questions. The membership of this forum does not generally tolerate newbies asking questions before doing research themselves in the forum on the extensive information that has already been provided.
After all, what is the point of all of the long time members writing reviews and such if folks like you don't bother to read them? We don't spoon feed newbies in this group.
Good luck, enjoy your trips, post your experiences, and welcome to the forum!
Sorry, I don't know. Someone Chinese might do it. But for using it with the girls pinyin is of not much use, since mostly in pinyin the tones are not provided. Even if they are, one word with the same tone can still have different meanings and also characters.
Tiger
Gualtier Malde
02-04-06, 04:13
why bother anyway? just look at that list! i mean, just when is anyone likely to find an occasion to say "drink [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) in wine glass" to some sweet young thing in china? i'm more afraid that i'll accidentally say something like that when i'm trying to order a nice white wine from the bar...
david
sorry, i don't know. someone chinese might do it. but for using it with the girls pinyin is of not much use, since mostly in pinyin the tones are not provided. even if they are, one word with the same tone can still have different meanings and also characters.
tiger
Traveler1234
02-04-06, 04:30
Sorry, I don't know. Someone Chinese might do it. But for using it with the girls pinyin is of not much use, since mostly in pinyin the tones are not provided. Even if they are, one word with the same tone can still have different meanings and also characters.
Tiger
Exactly, different tones can result in entire different meaning. If there are any specific phrases you want, PM and I can give you pinyin (i won't do the entire list)...but no guarantee it will sound correct when you say it :D
Conversely, cut and paste and bring with you - show it to your girl and she how she reacts.....
Diamond Head
02-04-06, 14:21
Tiger 1: "Beer from male client penis." WTF?? I think you're better off skipping the pinyin and just learning about five or six basic phrases beyond inquiries about price and so on. A good girl knows what to do anyway and can figure out your sign language pretty readily.
I didn't post that because I need it. My mandarin as well as cantonese is good enough to discuss anything with the girls. Still I don't know the highly idiomatic language used in this list, so I couldn't judge if it is right and where it could or should be used. Again there are definitely some phrases that should better not be used. Only someone Chinese can decide that, and again it will vary from region to region. So I posted this to get some feedback, so that non chinese speakers might be able to use it.
There was repeated demand for a chinese phrasebook.
Tiger
Diamond Head
02-05-06, 04:51
Sorry, I didn't phrase my comment correctly. I realized you were sufficient in Chinese. When I said "you" I meant a person who didn't speak Chinese was better off learning/memorizing a few phrases rather than carrying around a list that he can't read and could be misinterpreted to the detriment of the occasion. Let's face it, a lot of those terms on the list are way out there.
One of the big frustrations of China is the language barrier. The better educated girls speak english, but the girls most of us guys are after do not.
I think any attempt by members to teach each other the useful phrases should be welcome. Unfortunately, without a "useful phrases" thread these phrases become quickly lost.
Thank you Tiger for trying to introduce new terms.
Does anybody know how to get a new thread started? Please Jackson?
Night Dragon
02-05-06, 17:36
I didn't post that because I need it. My mandarin as well as cantonese is good enough to discuss anything with the girls. Still I don't know the highly idiomatic language used in this list, so I couldn't judge if it is right and where it could or should be used. Again there are definitely some phrases that should better not be used. Only someone Chinese can decide that, and again it will vary from region to region. So I posted this to get some feedback, so that non chinese speakers might be able to use it.
There was repeated demand for a chinese phrasebook.
Tiger
We need to clarify that the first part of Tiger's list is a collection of special terms / code names for sex games and other activities played out in KTVs. (And even many KTVs do not have such things.)
With that in mind, it is clear that a non-Chinese speaker does not need to learn 萤火虫, yinghuochong, for example. In the language of KTVs it means a naked dance with a lighted cigarette stuck in the girl's privates. But in everyday Chinese, it just means firefly. I doubt most Chinese, even a large number of providers, understand the sexual connotation.
That being said, thanks to Tiger for posting the list. It is certainly "culturally" interesting. I did not know some of these terms and hope to partake in some of these games sometime....
SidTheSexist
02-06-06, 08:16
Ru guo ni chui wo de la ba, wo gei ni duo yi dian qian - If you suck my dick, i'll give you a tip.
Wo keyi ba shou zhi fang zai pigu li ma? - Can i stick a finger up your arse?
Wo keyi zai ni zui ba li gao chao ma? - Can i cum in your mouth?
Aiyou, duibuqi, peng ni de tai fa le. - Sorry, i got cum in your hair!!!
Feel free to correct if there are any mistakes.
Sid
As has been said many many times before, RTFF (Read the Forum First). There is a TON of information available to answer your questions. The membership of this forum does not generally tolerate newbies asking questions before doing research themselves in the forum on the extensive information that has already been provided.
After all, what is the point of all of the long time members writing reviews and such if folks like you don't bother to read them? We don't spoon feed newbies in this group.
Good luck, enjoy your trips, post your experiences, and welcome to the forum!Sorry, you're right!
I hope that I would have some experience to post! and pictures!
I think to go to the Rendezvous Merry Hotel. Good idea?
Jacka969
Blacklisted
02-07-06, 06:55
ok, i need to know where ktv's like this are. i wouldn't mind using the chinese terms for 'drink [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) from wine glass', or 'dance with cigarette in anus'. sounds like a jolly good time to me!!
the ktv i went to was supposed to be a 'crazy ktv' but the girls mostly lazed around the whole night until some staff member yelled for them to dance for 5 minutes. which i must admit was great, but 5 minutes@!!@!!
i asked for the filthiest hoes the place had to be brought out for us, but they all wanted over 1500rmb to go home. fuuuuuck that!
overall night cost us each over 1000rmb. but i'd be happy to pay for some of these games and such.
so, who knows the most notorious, downright dirty ktv in shanghai?? let's get together and party there!
we need to clarify that the first part of tiger's list is a collection of special terms / code names for sex games and other activities played out in ktvs. (and even many ktvs do not have such things.)
with that in mind, it is clear that a non-chinese speaker does not need to learn 萤火虫, yinghuochong, for example. in the language of ktvs it means a naked dance with a lighted cigarette stuck in the girl's privates. but in everyday chinese, it just means firefly. i doubt most chinese, even a large number of providers, understand the sexual connotation.
that being said, thanks to tiger for posting the list. it is certainly "culturally" interesting. i did not know some of these terms and hope to partake in some of these games sometime....
Bob Builder
02-07-06, 08:02
i'm not saying that any of these acts don't exist somewhere on this earth but if you are going to use it as a guide to what kind of entertainment to expect in a ktv you are going to be disappointed.
you are more that likely to hear more that one person in the room to refer to you as "been tie" and treat you more of an alien that your average lao wai.
ok, i need to know where ktv's like this are. i wouldn't mind using the chinese terms for 'drink [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) from wine glass', or 'dance with cigarette in anus'. sounds like a jolly good time to me!!
the ktv i went to was supposed to be a 'crazy ktv' but the girls mostly lazed around the whole night until some staff member yelled for them to dance for 5 minutes. which i must admit was great, but 5 minutes@!!@!!
i asked for the filthiest hoes the place had to be brought out for us, but they all wanted over 1500rmb to go home. fuuuuuck that!
overall night cost us each over 1000rmb. but i'd be happy to pay for some of these games and such.
so, who knows the most notorious, downright dirty ktv in shanghai?? let's get together and party there!
Blacklisted
02-07-06, 10:25
What is a 'been tie'? Can you provide the correct pinyin?
As you may have noticed, these phrases came from a previous posting which makes the insinuation that such places exist.
I know it does sound very far fetched to me as well.
While I know they do exist in Japan, and to a lesser extent in Thailand, I would like to find the raunchiest KTV in China, at least where the girls are happy to get naked and play some games.
Hence my question... Is this merely urban legend or do such similar KTV's exist, and if so, where are they to be found? Has anyone come across KTV's that differ from the somewhat overpriced and overrated norm?
been to lot of KTV in Shanghai with out much sucess. Last KtV I was at we went with the local gangsters who own the club. At the start a lot of women party party go go dance in corner a8-9 with cloths on pitty. As the night progressed lot of drink games arm wrestling the local hoods women starting to thin out around 1am but there was still women around. Having a good time but no naked women next time look at watch is was 5am, there was club owner there his girl, local boys girl friends all the women were taken whats the Fu-k.
I go to the club owner and ask if can arrange any girls he said the women he arranged for us did not want to go back to hotel with us what the F-ck and they left earlier. If you were at a KTV club with club owners you think you would be sorted. They have no idea. To save face he rang up couple girls to meet us out side to take back to hotel. Go to car park 10 min later a couple 5s roll up thanks but no thanks went home alone.
Juno Audio
02-07-06, 16:04
What is a 'been tie'? Can you provide the correct pinyin?
I don't know the exact pinyin, but that is darn close, both in Cantonese and Putonghua. "been tie" means perversion. Anything out of the norm for the Chinese girls are "been tie". Once a girl told me a guy likes to suck her toes, and she said he is "been tie"....
JA
Night Dragon
02-07-06, 17:41
I don't know the exact pinyin, but that is darn close, both in Cantonese and Putonghua. "been tie" means perversion. Anything out of the norm for the Chinese girls are "been tie". Once a girl told me a guy likes to suck her toes, and she said he is "been tie"....
JA
The correct term is 病态[-態] bìngtài, which means abnormal or morbid.
Regarding what goes on in KTVs in China, I've come across some where the girls strip and some mild sexual games go on (girl-on-girl, BJ's). I saw these in the provinces, not in major cities like Beijing or Shanghai.
I have yet to encounter some of these "bingtai" activities but I would not be surprised that they exist. The sex industry in China is competitive and the operators have to keep on "innovating" to try to stay on top....
Bob Builder
02-07-06, 17:44
Pretty much on the money with the translation e.g. weirdo, sicko, etc. I've been KTVing for over a decade at some pretty hardcore places with live action but have yet to see ass smoking or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drinking. You are more likely get little princesses that think they are doing you a favour by letting you kiss their ass.
The only service that I can recall in that category is in Zhu Hai where they have pregnant women that let you milk their breasts into a cup for RMB60.
Also PaulB's comment is pretty common in Shanghai to hear that the gals do not go out unless you become a regular as opposed to Southern China where a lot of gals get pissed if you don't take them out for further action.
I don't know the exact pinyin, but that is darn close, both in Cantonese and Putonghua. "been tie" means perversion. Anything out of the norm for the Chinese girls are "been tie". Once a girl told me a guy likes to suck her toes, and she said he is "been tie"....
JA
Prince Leo
02-07-06, 18:30
Actually, it is 变态(bian tai)，not 病态。 病态(bing tai) is the condition or the form of illness. 变态's literal mean a different/changed perception or attitude from the norm. The common usage means abnormal perception and/or thinking, and action. Fetish
The correct term is 病态[-態] bìngtài, which means abnormal or morbid.
Regarding what goes on in KTVs in China, I've come across some where the girls strip and some mild sexual games go on (girl-on-girl, BJ's). I saw these in the provinces, not in major cities like Beijing or Shanghai.
I have yet to encounter some of these "bingtai" activities but I would not be surprised that they exist. The sex industry in China is competitive and the operators have to keep on "innovating" to try to stay on top....
Gualtier Malde
02-07-06, 19:01
tripper, if you find that ktv, give me a call, i'm in! i have no problem covering my end of the expenses.
the last one i went to was wild by shanghai standards, from the sound of it. every hour or so the girls got up for a dance with us. they stripped, we got to touch them all over, including fingering, etc. my girl got dripping wet every time i started to finger her. it was really sort of funny. when the dance started and i first touched her she would be dry as a bone, but once th finger passed the outer lips, it was almost like a gusher. she'd just soak my fingers. she would also french kiss.
unfortunately, it wasn't a group that would have approved of my dropping my drawers and getting a bj, so that wasn't attempted. i don't know if they would do that or not. but i'd like to go back and try.
i'm going to get the name/address of the place. maybe when i'm back we can check it out.
david
ok, i need to know where ktv's like this are. i wouldn't mind using the chinese terms for 'drink [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) from wine glass', or 'dance with cigarette in anus'. sounds like a jolly good time to me!!
the ktv i went to was supposed to be a 'crazy ktv' but the girls mostly lazed around the whole night until some staff member yelled for them to dance for 5 minutes. which i must admit was great, but 5 minutes@!!@!!
i asked for the filthiest hoes the place had to be brought out for us, but they all wanted over 1500rmb to go home. fuuuuuck that!
overall night cost us each over 1000rmb. but i'd be happy to pay for some of these games and such.
so, who knows the most notorious, downright dirty ktv in shanghai?? let's get together and party there!
Traveler1234
02-07-06, 20:03
Tripper, if you find that KTV, give me a call, I'm in! I have no problem covering my end of the expenses.
I'm going to get the name/address of the place. Maybe when I'm back we can check it out.
David
I'm on a plane next week and if I stop in Shanghai, will be on Sunday 2/26 for 48 hrs. If you guys schedule at that time and I'm around, count me in.....
Even if no KTV, up for a quick drink and hello to all.
Blacklisted
02-08-06, 01:49
Abnormal!!! Ha! Love it...
Maybe we can ask the laoban if they have any girls who are bian tai... That should be a prereq!
Dave, definitely! Let's try it out. I'm over paying 1000RMB each for a bottle of whiskey and a few girls to laze around on couches.
Was it Mon/Tue you're in town?
Any other 'freaks or abnormals' want to join?
Gualtier Malde
02-08-06, 05:41
I fly in Sunday night, and can do it then or Monday night. Tuesday I'm sure to have business obligations, but *may* be available Wednesday evening.
David
Abnormal!!! Ha! Love it...
Maybe we can ask the laoban if they have any girls who are bian tai... That should be a prereq!
Dave, definitely! Let's try it out. I'm over paying 1000RMB each for a bottle of whiskey and a few girls to laze around on couches.
Was it Mon/Tue you're in town?
Any other 'freaks or abnormals' want to join?
Blacklisted
02-08-06, 06:53
It's on.
Xinnian kuaile!
Count me in if you have space.
Juno Audio
02-08-06, 16:56
Actually, it is 变态(bian tai)，not 病态。 病态(bing tai) is the condition or the form of illness. 变态's literal mean a different/changed perception or attitude from the norm. The common usage means abnormal perception and/or thinking, and action. Fetish
Night Dragon, wrong.....Prince Leo, right on the money.
OK, move on....
JA
Blacklisted
02-09-06, 01:50
Bing tai:noun. morbid/adnormal/pathological state
Bian tai:adj. adnormal anomalous
So I'm a bian tai de bing tai wai guo ren.
Hang on, is that correct. I'm confused.
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