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Mock A Bee
05-08-05, 02:44
Gimme a break. Just because someone reads something on the internet doesn't mean it's true. I live in Beijing and go to the square most every day - it would be virtually impossible for a killing of any type to happen there. On Tuesday the square was mellow, the protests were on the weekend and were not anywhere near Tiananmen Square. You can't as much as unfurl a banner on the square without being swarmed by security.

I did an interent search on this supposed killing and could only find one obscure, out-there website that even mentioned such nonsense.

About the Tourist in Tiananmen:

I checked out the story about the Philipine tourist getting killed at Tiananmen Square with a foreign newswire correspondent I know in Beijing.

It is a true story, not an internet story. In fact, there was more than one victim attacked, only one death though.

The Chinese government obviously does not want the rest of the world to know this stuff actually happens in China. They are very good at covering up pretty much anything short of a nuclear blast.

Go figure.

MAB

Roversman 999
05-08-05, 04:51
Dear Lao Ma, I used to live in the Philippines and know the family who was involved. They are mourning now.Can assure you this happened. If in doubt,check the Philppines Inquirer back edition for the date of this , and you will see photos of bodies being returned to Manila. Certainly isnt made up..!!!

Lao Ma
05-08-05, 07:17
Thanks for the links. This does indeed look like it happened. My apologies.

But I see nothing to suggest that it was in any way whatsover linked to the recent anti-japanese protests. Sounds to me like some nut job went crazy. I mean I could be wrong here, but philipino people are generally not confused with japanese. Isolated incident, imo. Doesn't make it one bit less appaling or tragic, I just feel its wrong to link it to the tensions here and leave a dangling innuendo that somehow it's dangerous now to travel to china. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Every big city has bad guys that lose it and go bananas. If you want to avoid travelling to a country where you can get yourself killed just by looking at someone wrong, then you need to go to the USA. I am a caucasian american from chicago and am a lot safer living in China that I would be in Chicago, or LA, or Detoit, or NYC, or....

Welcome to Beijing. The weather is great and the town is crawling with pretty little things.

Detlef
05-08-05, 13:45
I ahve been to Eshan lu factory, finally found it afte some searching, it is actaully at a strech of road were the buildings are quite a distance back from the street inbetween are a few trees and soem green area. lit in nean blue etc. lights.

Ecperiance was as desribed by Count G, however I was with my Chinese not able to negotiate to 250, but paid 300. FS was OK but not a lot of action from the girl, she did not want BBBJ only covered.

Overall a place to go if you live in Pudong and do not want to travel to Puxi for a factory style FS.

I had a girl from Hunan, quite slim and nice long nipples.


I've been to the Eshan Lu factory twice since I last posted about it. (It's in Pudong. If you want directions, check my recent posts.)

Pretty much the same drill as the first time. 200 for FS + 50 taifei. Don't let the girl get away with charging you more. They tried it each time, and each time I had to talk them down to 200.

But the girls' uniforms seem to have changed. The first time they were all in long black dresses. But the past two times they looked very sporty in white polo shirts and blue or black shorts. I felt like I had walked into a tennis club.

Girl quality is mixed. Don't expect any raving beauties. But it's enough to get the job done.

Last time, I had one with a nice slender body, but the horizontal C-section scar on her tummy showed she was a mommy. That's not such a big issue. But unfortunately if she had been any looser down there, I would have fallen in, never to be heard from again. YMMV indeed.

Based on my sample size of 3 visits, I find the beds in the back are the springiest. Easier to get a good rhythm going, if you like that kind of thing.

Count

Cebu Local
05-08-05, 15:36
Lao Ma, Am glad that issue was cleared.Thanks andThanks also to MAB and Rovers,I kinda think I have built up a rep for not being a bullshitter over the past couple of years.Actually I actually know the family also,The father and daughter were killed and the wife survived.China did not want this type of news to spread.imagine a mad man stabbing filipinos to death on Tianamen square thinking they were Japanese.The guy was probably a nut case as Lao Ma said.But the guy was fair skinned and looked Japanese according to many of his friends,Just being at the wrong place at the wrong time I guess.Back to regular programing

Sh Captain
05-08-05, 17:49
Me, Cap Iota, and SHS boy took a trip to the village today. I dropped the ball and forgot my camera AGAIN.

Anyways, 2nd block down Hang Zhong Lu and I popped in to see my skinny honey from the 2nd to the last shop before the bridge. I will go back and take a pic of all the girls in the front of the shop so you all can decide if you wanna go out there.

Also the strip behind the car shops has the hottest honeys. That is where Yang Yang usually is when she is in Shanghai. SHS boy did a beautiful tall girl from Yang Yangs shop (2nd to the last on that back strip behind the car repair shops.)

Cap Iota did this girl from downt he street who was begging to see him for days. This girl calls himm 5 times a day and SMS' 20 times a day. She is a doll from Hang Zhou. VERY cute. in a side alley shop by all the pool tables on the right side of Hang Zhong Lu.

Sh Captain

Sh Captain
05-08-05, 17:54
Just before the village on Wu Zhong lu, jjust before you pass under the overpass, there is a strip of shops on each side of the street. I got full nude play, DATY, and BBBJ for 50rmb! I was surprised. I paid her 100, walked out to the front of the shop. I was chatting with SHS boy and all of a sudden the manager girl hands me a 50!

I was shocked and stoked. Def gonna go back there for a warm up.

Then closer to the village the shops are pretty nasty, but there was a beautiful 20y/o Hunan girl with a perfect body. Smooth great skin, long legs, tan skin.

Did her full sweet service for 150. She is a keeper. Prob have her come over on her days off.

Sh Captain

Liam Latrine
05-09-05, 15:16
Sh Capt Hi.

Sorry but I'm trying to follow your posts on a map and I'm getting confused. Can you please clarify which road you're going down (Cao Bao Lu - Easterly direction, Wuzhong Lu etc)

Thx,

Liam

Asian Rain
05-09-05, 16:06
After dark, there are usually 1-3 PAPASANS standing in front of the Hongqiao Friendship Shopping Center on the corner of Yanan W Rd/Zunyi S Rd across from the Renaissance Hotel/Sheraton Hotel. They sometimes also stand along other parts of the road between the hotels. If you approach them, they will quietly ask if "you want Chinese girl?"

They will get girls from local karaoke places - or other similar places - to visit your hotel room for short time. First price offer will usually be RMB600, but they will readily accept RMB400-450, with another promised RMB50 tip for taxi to the girl. I have used these guys several times with good success, especially a short pudgy guy named George. George is always helpful enough to consider requests - young, big tits, slim, etc. - and usually delivers to specification. As a video monger, these guys always know to get me girls who will be cooperative with video/pictures. I specify this when ordering the girl and instruct the papasan to tell the girl that video will be done - just so there is no miscommunication. This is a nice bonus if you are into that. Once you agree price, they will call for a girl, which will take 10-20 minutes to arrive. You pay direct to the girl AFTER service and I ususally tip the Papasan RMB20 or so if he comes up with a particularly nice girl.

The girls are of varied skill - bbbj and fs is always on the menu. Over half the girls I tried will do COF. I have never had a problem with the girls and the service is generally relaxed and friendly. None of them ever speak English, so prepare for simple communication. Although the service is generally not rushed, the girls will be quick to shower and go once you have popped. FYI, there is never a problem to escort girls into either the Renaissance or Sheraton and the girl can leave on her own - no hassles whatsoever. I will post a couple pic sets to illustrate the quality the papasans provide.

I have also observed infrequent SW activity around these hotels - they stroll the sidewalk between the Renaissance driveway and the Sheraton driveway. If you are alone, they will ask you if you want a massage. I have used a couple of these girls - be sure to negotiate hard as some of them can get a little greedy when they see a 5-star hotel foreign sucker. They will be keen to negotiate quick and get off the street, so don't hesitate to start walking if they ask some stupid price - it will soften thier negotiating position. RMB500 is the most I would ever offer and I always make sure that FS and video is acceptable before taking them up to the room.

I once met a cutie who offered only massage and blowjob for RMB500. Told her to get lost. Saw her again on another visit in the middle of January. She was keen to get out of the freezing cold and FS was offered with video. The smallest pussy I have ever experienced with a Chinese girl. Talented blowjob and CIM to finish. Will post some pics.

If any of you have information on places which offer a selection of reasonably priced video-friendly girls for takeout to hotel, I would be appreciative if you could PM me some pointers. I enjoy nothing more than having the girls back in the comfort of my hotel bed for a leisurely session and it would be nice to pick the girls on my own rather than relying on a papasan.

Enjoy Shanghai!

Mark Mason
05-10-05, 04:00
Thanks to all the guys who gave directions to this place. What a find. Stunning ladies all expert at BBBJCIM. Actually many so good that they will have you in and out in 10 minutes. Service was all routine. I went 4 times and the procedure always the same: wash your right hand, pull down your pants, start with hot water, bend over pull ther pants down and let you look and play with their pussy while sucking very hard and fast. They will ask if you want a slow service for an extra tip but they are not into that. They do a very good job at CIM i.e. let you fully shoot your last drop before stopping. Not your GFE at all, just good honest BJ.

Sh Captain
05-10-05, 10:11
Latrine,

I am unclear. I went with SHS boy and he knows better than me. I will go back again soon and pay careful attention then post the cross streets exactly.

Sh Captain

TheNoop
05-11-05, 05:44
Hi Gents,
I will be passing through Shanghai soon and see that you talk about a Holiday Inn. I see several in the city. Which is the best for mongering? Are there any bars close by where action can be found?
Cheers,
Thenoop

Sh Captain
05-11-05, 14:56
The Noop,

I dont know the holiday inn's very well because I dont stay in hotels.

What are the main cross streets? Then I can tell you where to go from there, or which basic are is better.

Sh Captain

Hitman2
05-11-05, 15:01
Hi Gents,
I will be passing through Shanghai soon and see that you talk about a Holiday Inn. I see several in the city. Which is the best for mongering? Are there any bars close by where action can be found?
Cheers,
Thenoop

At the Holiday Inn Downtown, you can get inhouse sauna action and they are absolutely girl friendly. Close by you have the Skyline Sauna (3 Minutes walking distance). See previous posts.

Batman
05-11-05, 15:34
I was in Shanghai over the May holiday and hooked up with SH Captain who was kind enough to show me and my friend from Guangdong around. Thanks for the fun SH Captian and the Mexican food was awsome. Please let me know when your in GZ next maybe you,OAH,Cronin and I can all get together for some serious mongering at the hotel in Kaiping/ShuiKou.

jankyfreak
05-12-05, 08:15
hey guys... I'll be coming to Shanghai Next week... And looking forward to it.

I'll be staying in the Xuhui District are there any cool places to go nearby?

Also are they any shops nearby to pick up girls?

-JF

Asian Travels
05-13-05, 03:48
After a quite a while, I find myself lucky enough to be planning another trip to Shanghai. I am really amazed at all the great info here-5 pages in about 2 weeks...plus great photos by AR.

I experienced the ROB girls a few years back-I made a point of checking prices at the KTV and even said no to the $15 fruit plate, yet the bill was still $90 for about 90 minutes. I ended up throwing $35 in a guys face and repeating "gong an" and the doormen allowed me to leave.

Anyway, I am looking for the following:

A girl for a few days to be a temp GF-any suggestions? Bad idea? Costs?

A pair for some 3-some activity

A girl who may allow some backdoor action (although I think Chinese are unlikely to say yes based on past experience).

Thanks in advance for any advice.



Picture of the 2 girls that tried to "take me to diner" Posting it now as i had some problems with uloading.
some "gorillas" at the door making sure you will not run away. Pls. take care and avoid those traps!!!!
Carefull.

Sh Captain
05-13-05, 04:33
Janky freak,

Xu Hui is very center of the city, it has easy 20 min freeway access to Ming Hang, and 10-15 minutes to the LU Wan area. Both have a lot of BB shop action. XU Hui even has a lot. Changning which is also here, is short on BB shops, but you are in a decent area.

Do you know the exact streets you will be on?

Sh Captain

Asian Rain
05-13-05, 06:46
Just wrapped up another visit to Shanghai.

With the warm weather the Papasans are in full bloom in front of the Sheraton and Renaissance. Counted 5 guys on the road at 9pm. Used thier service once. Same services and prices as quoted in my previous post.

I picked up a SW in front of the small shops row on XinXia Road. When you go out the front of the Sheraton up Zunyi S Rd, you will see a Starbucks on the corner of Xinxia Road - make a right to see the row of small shops. Cute girl stopped me and asked if I wanted massage. I asked how much. She said RMB800 for massage and sex. No way. End offer was RMB400 for sex with no massage - even better as most of these girls don't provide a useful massage anyway. The girl was cute and the service was reasonably good - her moaning was fake but added to the mood nicely.

Happy hunting.

Ramrod
05-13-05, 17:14
I decided to try out the Holiday Inn Sauna. I reached there quite late, around 11.30 at night. Not too many people there. I saw one sexy looking famale. Went to the Sauna and after asked for a massage. I was wondering whether I was in the wrong place as the room door has a big glass covered opening and that it was unlikely that I could have sex there. The female started massaging me, and had no objection to my touching and feeling her, so I guessed I was in the right place. As I turned over, she saw my erection, and felt my cock and asked if i wanted sex. I guess my bargaining abilities were severely dented with the hardon I had. We quickly agreed on a price, she coveered the glass opening in the door, and she gave a good BBBj and finally came into her from behind doggy style.
Overall experience was good. Lesson learnt: do not bargain with a hard on!.

Ramrod

Casaj
05-13-05, 23:15
I am in the process of relocating to the South part of Pudong in the Kangba are (sout of A20) and am currently "commuting" between Atlanta and Shanghai. I have tried several of the local MP's in the area and they are purely legit. Anyone know of any MP's in this area that offer a bit more service, or do I need to go further north to the center of Pudong?

OC Ass Man
05-14-05, 09:53
Gentles all,

I'll be flying in for meetings on the 18th - any suggestions for late night or early morning ladies to come to the Sheraton that might fit my proclivities? My Mandarin is limited to the "hello/goodbye/thanks/yes/no" stage, so complex arrangements aren't likely to work well.

A different question - If we're taking a bunch of engineers and purchasing guys out for dinner and entertainment, any classy (versus merely expensive) recommendations for KTV or other ideas?

Feel free to answer here or PM me.

Much obliged,

- O.C. the Ass Man

Jman90024
05-14-05, 18:32
Got a couple friends from oversea coming down to Shanghai for the first time. Of course, XTD is a must go tourist spot. Went there one night with a couple friend and end up having drinks in Luna. Quite interesting action in the bar area and some lookers there. I end up taking Su home. Probably 7 in look with a 9 body and totally GEF. She gave great head with deep throat action. The damage is RMB 600 for ST. Could have gotten her stay the night for 800 but I was tired.

Cerberus
05-15-05, 03:37
Gentlemen and fellow mongers,

I have few posts yet due to not being able to post pertinent data and directions in Chengdu, China. Please excuse my impertinence in asking for information from experienced members. I have an upcoming 30 day trip to Chengdu. I will have a 12 hour layover in Shanghai and will be able to sample the nightlife, albeit on a very short basis.

Another member posted that in-hotel entertainment venues were available in Holiday Inn Vista in Shanghai. Approximately, 800 CNY for special room massage FS. Is this information still accurate? Is the bar in hotel a viable option? Do members have any other suggestions or advice in regard to Holiday Inn? I won’t be able to enjoy the BBS services that are quite frequently discussed here. SW are probably out of the question. I simply don’t have the patience to be seeking / bargaining / escorting and paying them with only 8 hours in the city.

For members of the Chengdu Section, in mid to late July, I should have accurate information and directions to at least two venues that I know of, for them.

Thanks in advance to all.

TheNoop
05-16-05, 01:56
Got a couple friends from oversea coming down to Shanghai for the first time. Of course, XTD is a must go tourist spot. Went there one night with a couple friend and end up having drinks in Luna. Quite interesting action in the bar area and some lookers there. I end up taking Su home. Probably 7 in look with a 9 body and totally GEF. She gave great head with deep throat action. The damage is RMB 600 for ST. Could have gotten her stay the night for 800 but I was tired.


Hey jman!
Where is XTD? Is there a lot of bar action there?
Cheers,
Thenoop

jankyfreak
05-16-05, 02:05
Somewhere on Wending Road... I got driven around a bit last nite... but I'm still all turned around...

what's with the hair and massage places... that are open until 11pm... Is that what I'm looking for?

-JF


Janky freak,

Xu Hui is very center of the city, it has easy 20 min freeway access to Ming Hang, and 10-15 minutes to the LU Wan area. Both have a lot of BB shop action. XU Hui even has a lot. Changning which is also here, is short on BB shops, but you are in a decent area.

Do you know the exact streets you will be on?

Sh Captain

Douglas23
05-16-05, 06:24
I worked this up from posts of about 8 months to present. It is a summary of what I took from the posts to aid in my hunt. I hope it helps,and anyone is free to augment. I focus mainly on Puxi side since I did not venture to Pudong. Key to use is that I have indexed these locations via the Shanghai 2005 Tourist Map. Pick one up at your hotel, then it is just like playing Monger Battleship!

Of note, I will post the directions that I have forthe infamous Village, but I spent two hours looking for the damn place in 90 degree heat and was unsuccessful, so if someone could point out - I ended up near a hotel and a Poalroid factory.

Here goes:

Saunas:

- City Sauna on 9th Floor, Golden Bell Plaza , HuaiHai Zhong Lu - choose # 87 (or 28 ?) Elevators on south side of bldg – Huai Hai Lu – no FS ?

- Alice (at 399 Changhua Lu - 021.62762981) – buffet after - 600
D6 - Yu Ping (448 Zun Yi Lu close to Tian Shan Road – 650 rmb works - Zhong Shan Park … lineup of 3 - subway stations and take a quick 10rmb taxi ride to get there. 021-6233-2398) –- #830 = teacher - try to get 600 mention Xiao Zheng- boss = Fan Yu Gang

H4- Skyline – near Holiday Inn getting off the cab in front of the Holiday in and continuing along Tian Mu Xi Lu until the next big crossing. Took the overpass and on the other side you can see the big blue sign "Skyline - Tian Mu Xi Rd corner of Chang'An Rd...one block from the station...4th flooor ? 86-21-63530006

C7- Cloud Mountain - 3911 Hongmei Lu -near Yang An Rd, Gubei 4th floor – lineup of 10 (#11 - passion) - 500 rmb or #8

F7- Hengshang Hotel (on Hengshang Lu, next to Regal East Asia). Got bored around 11 so I decided to check out the baron second floor. – 700 rmb

E7- 1281 Zhongshan Xi Lu near Wuzhong Lu: Hai Something Sauna – 650 rmb

M6- Purple Mountain Hotel – near Intercontinenetal - 5th floor “Spa” – 400 + 400 - relaxing

F7- Nice massage parlor on Tianping Road, at the top of Hengshan Road, heading away from Huaihai. There's this big yellow sign with flashing neon for a massage place downstairs, there's a Hello Kitty store upstairs and it's part of some bigger health complex. 48 for 45 min massage massage - another 250 for 45 min FS - comfortable

I can only speak to Yu Ping Massage and highly recommend 818 and the location - the girls suspend from bars with red robes and you can DATY or just enjot the 69 situation - also tounge bath all over and what was truly the best for me was being raised to doggy style and having her not only rim me, but suck my balls - i ducked my head and could watch - great view - better feeling !

Bars:

- H6 Park 97 Fuxing Lu
- Zapatas closer to the Portmann
- Pegasus
- Malone's Amercian bar at Tong Ren Ru. (crowded Sun, Mon)
- Manhattans on TongRen Lu
- Face
- M Box - 3F Peregrine Plaza, 1325 Huaihai Road
- Babyface – Maoming,
- Manhatten – Maoming
- Cash Box (karaoke as well) – across from Park 97
- Long Bar (in hotel ?)
- bars and restaurants around the Tongji- and Fudan-University.
- LA Disco same building as City Sauna – w/ KTV as well
- Paulaner's at Fengyang Road.
- Rojam –in hong kong plaza(xiang gang guang chang), monday and wednesday are ladies nights

Pegasus was good on Ladies night and I would have socored freebie if her friend wasn't irresponsibly drunk, but my fave is definitely Zapatas where there is freebie hunting and closer to exits semi pros will give you eye contact and away you go

BBS :

Pudong:

- Eshan Lu - take the subway to Dongchang Lu station and then follow Pudong Nanlu straight south. I figure it's a good 15-20 minute hike, maybe a little more. On the way, you'll pass Weifang Lu and Pudian Lu. When you finally get to Eshan Lu, hang a left and then pass the first intersection (Nanquan Lu) and then keep going east another several hundred meters. The place is on the left back from the street behind some trees.200+ 50 FS rmb - 4th one to the east of the intersection between Eshan Lu and Nanquan Lu - Further to the east about 300m or so, on the other side of the road, is a massage place with girls all in long black dresses. It turns out to be a factory of sorts. Quite an operation there. I'd guess they have about 10 separate rooms and about the same number of girls.

-Qi Lu Wan Yi Da Jiu Dian" (Courtyard Hotel by Marriott). It is on the corner of Dong Fang Lu and Wei Fang Lu, a 23RMB, 7 minute taxi trip from Jin Mao.

Straight across the road from the Hotel taxi drop off point, on Wei Fang Lu, is the first BBS (Black and white BBS sign), which is open day and night. Lisa is an 8 and she is usually standing inside the doorway dressed in lace. She was quite busy yesterday, has seven clients. Only problem is that she charges 400 for FS. Try and get the deed done asap as all the beds look a bit too grubby.

It is quite safe, lot's locked doors, and a separate escape exit if the local Jiancha conduct a raid.

If you walk a further 50 meters down Wei Fang Lu you come to a second BBS. This also has the revolving B&W BBS sign, but this time spinning with pictures of models supporting various hairstyles in a futile to pass off as a legit operation. Now this is a lot of fun. Four women averaging from 6 to 9 very GFE. I settled for two. Maybe business for a Sunday afternoon was quiet, but FS from one (the 9) while the other had her 35 Cup impaled in my mouth for only 300 RMB is what I call a deal.

- Factory - Take the metro to Lianhua Lu (Lu = Road) station (line 1, direction Xinzhuang). Use the north exit and take the overpass to cross the street. You will see a big shopping mall called Brilliance South Shopping Mall. Go to the left side of it and you'll find a HomeMart. As said, don't go in but continue to the left and you'll come to an ally. It's about 10m from there and it's really easy to see. It is very pink at night and you cannot see through the windows – 150 all in rmb (probably puxi)

- Weifang road between Laoshan road and Dongfang road in front of the Supreme Tower and the Court Yard Hotel. Very nice and pretty girls but seemed very young. Very noisy when calling you to come in. I don’t know if they are 18.

Puxi:

J6 - Huang Pi Nan Lu Factory: Huang Pi Nan Lu itself, and somewhere around the number 688 691 -150 rmb

old Factory near hongmei lu and shangdong xi lu (about 3 blocks away from here). This is the hard one to give directions to but you can always just goto their sister store, the one next to Carrefoure and Starbucks off of the subway line 1 exit in Minghang. Didn't see anything at the Factory so we just kep strolling that street. Went into this huge BBS with about 10 gurlz.

J6 - 373 Shun Chang lu, not so far from Huang pi lu and Jinan lu. Factory –250 300 rmb - on – 2nd floor

G5 Wuding Road between Xihong Road and Shanxi North Road There are at least 3-4 The one closest to Xihong Road has steps down

Corner Wulumuqi and Nanjing Road

C8 - Hang Zhong Lu and Wu Zhong road in Minghang district– Village - - Wuzhong Lu and take a right, and then right again when you see a white entrance gateway. (Hang Zhong Lu / Wu Zhong Lu) –daytime only ? 4-5 shops – walk through gate and all on right 150 only

G5 - BJ Bar (unique atmosphere vs. BBS) – couches…): ZY Bar - 1771 Xin zha Lu, and this was between jiao zhou lu and chang de lu. – 350 rmb for relaxed BJ only open after 7 pm.

G5 If you walk out the Portman to Nanjing Lu and turn left, walk east to the street between Plaza 66 and Portman (I do not know the name) and turn left, walk to Beijing Lu and on the left corner across the street there is a BBS, five or six cuties sitting there, rooms upstairs are clean,hard walls seperating the areas and a curtain. put sheet on the massage chair, service was good. Nice to know that it is in the neighborhood, unlike some of the other BBS on Beijing Lu.Also some sitting outside of starbucks at night, talking on phones and looking busy. also on occasion some sw between portman and mandarin hotel, but they are very hit or miss.

E5 F5 - Xuan Hua Lu starting form the Jiangsu lu end( the east). There are at least 5 or 6 BBS in the section up to Ding Xi Lu. If coming from the west Mayfair Hotel end you go head south from Ding Xi Lu Mayfair is on your right, after passing through Mayfair, You will see Kentucky Fried Chicken on your right, Xuan Hua Road is just opposite KFC, once you go into xuan hua road, HJ only 100 rmb. Takeout avail

Carreour Factory gets my vote though never did find the damn Village. I got very rushed service at Huang Pi Nan Lu Factory on afternoon visit and may never return, though she knew what she was doing, but do NOT pay more than 130 because she tried to work 150 or 200 out of me. Always pay the papasan.

Karaoke:

G6 Changshu Lu and jsut one block south of Xikang Lu. The karaoke is on the corner
373 Shun Chang lu, not so far from Huang pi lu and Jinan lu. Factory –250 300 on – 2nd floor.

KTV located on corner of Dong Fang Lu and Weifang Lu, across from the Marriott.

Language:

Pussy - Xiao mei mei
Handjob - da fei ji
Take off clothes - tuo yi fu
She came - dao le
CIM – Hao Bao
Blow – chui

DVD

Go to 158 Jin Xian Lu. Go past the City Hotel on Shanxi Nan Lu toward Changle. Go past Julu, past the Mantou place (stop and buy some - delicious), next street on the left. Half way down on the left. The sign says Ka De Club. I think it is supposed to be an internet club. Go inside and there is a woman on a computer. Walk past her into the door on the right, go down the hall, first door on the right. You will find this secret place full of westerners.

They have a good selection of CDs and DVDs, some on the rack and others in the catalogs on the tables. Enjoy!

Hope this helps. My way of repaying the debt I owe to posters whose information has yielded some great trips to Shanghai.

D23

Levitian
05-16-05, 07:02
....Xintiandi.
Bar actions there? You bet.

Levitian

Jman90024
05-16-05, 16:25
XTD is XinTianDi. Major tourist spots in Shanghai with a couple nice bars. Quite a bit of bar actions there but you need to pay attention. Also, there are quite a few rip off there so negotiate carefully.


Hey jman!
Where is XTD? Is there a lot of bar action there?
Cheers,
Thenoop

Cebu Local
05-17-05, 00:44
Great Guide Douglas,Heading to Shanghai for the first time next week,I already printed out the page.Rover,I will send you a PM as soon as I come.I will post a report as soon as I get back to Cebu

Asian Travels
05-17-05, 01:13
Thanks Douglas23.

You've done us a world of service. There are so many posts here it is hard to keep up.

Someone should pin this to the top of the Shanghai section, and let Captain makes changes where necessary

TheNoop
05-17-05, 04:14
Thanks for the info guys! I'll let you know how I do!
Thenoop

Matteo Ricci
05-17-05, 04:16
Stellar work - Douglas 23. Just two of what I would consider the 'basics' to add:

Major FS BBS zone:

In north of Jiangan District, between Xikang Lu and Shaanxi Bei (North) Lu, Haifang Lu cross street (FS 250-300).

Convenient to Bund hotels:

Massage stores Zapu Lu.

Zapu Lu runs north from Suzhou Creek (Suzhou He / River) by the Bund. Zapu Lu is parallel to, and between Sichuan Bei (North) Lu, and Wusong Lu. (FS 300-500)

Ciao! Matteo.

Roversman 999
05-17-05, 08:19
as some regulars here will know my trusty yellow bike and i have been up and down many streets in shanghai.. pudong and puxi.. looking for pussy. found it in dark corners and well lit bbs.. but for past year, have developed a strong liking for hongsong lu. its just off guyang lu, which in turn is off hongquio lu.. if you were on hongqiou lu going towards xi jia hui, go past the new gubei flower market on your right then take the next right. go down this street and hongsong will appear on your left. wide spacious street with little traffic.i cant tell everyone exactly how to get there as there as two main entrances to this street.. but i can tell everyone is has 12 bbs in it, with two new ones added last week.
girls vary from sweet to cute to sexy to bold. i can tell you as its a quiet street its easy to "cruise" and even last night, drove up and down the street a few times before settling on my choice. you can even park your car/bike directly outside the shop.
cebu local, do go visit. you can walk up and down the street and peer in all the shops.. none of them have the plastic sheets on the doors that prevent you from seeing in.
this is the best street in shanghai for me.
after two point four years of happy mongering im leaving shanghai soon.. but not without having sown my seed in more places that i can remember.
have fun....

Shanghai Noon #2
05-17-05, 10:46
F7- Nice massage parlor on Tianping Road, at the top of Hengshan Road, heading away from Huaihai. There's this big yellow sign with flashing neon for a massage place downstairs, there's a Hello Kitty store upstairs and it's part of some bigger health complex. 48 for 45 min massage massage - another 250 for 45 min FS - comfortable

I was pretty impress with the report by Douglas23, so I went to the massage place Douglas23 mentioned today and could not find any FS offered there. The place was kind of a dump, and their bathroom is pretty bad, I opted to wait until I got home to take a leak. Anyway I could have gone to the wrong place, however their pricing was 48 rmb for 45 minutes. I got a mediocre foot massage for 48 rmb and tipped the girl. I think alot of information in the report is right on (such as Yuping and all) I just couldn't get verification of this place on TianPing Road.

Malone
05-17-05, 12:38
I have been today the first time at the Huang Pi Nan Lu Factory. This is very easy to find. Four quite nice girls to choose from. I chose one with really nice big boobs. A good, fast but very professional service. I paid 130RBM. Definitely a good place to have a quick BBBJ.

Gualtier Malde
05-17-05, 21:28
Hi all!

I'll be going to Shanghai for the first time Real Soon Now. I'd love some advice for a first time, non-mandarin speaking visitor. I've read a lot in this forum and have a good idea regarding bars, street, spas, etc.

I'll be staying at the Equatorial, not too far from the Hilton. Does anyone have any info about this hotel? Extras available from their spa? "Room service"? Are they guest friendly? Any issues/problems? Do they have a nightclub/bar with available ladies?

Thanks. I haven't found anything about this hotel in the forum. I'll be happy to provide a report on my return.

Blue D
05-18-05, 06:46
Equatorial is good high class hotel.

Extras available from their spa? - no sure if they have a spa. Spa reported in this forumk are close taxi ride.

"Room service"? - no sure but usually not in this level of hotel.

Are they guest friendly? - Yes, never had or heard any problem. If in question, have the girl meet u in the coffee shop in the lobby then bring her in. The hotel would even hold your phone so you won't get unexpected call.

Any issues/problems? - never heard og

Do they have a nightclub/bar with available ladies? - night club yes. ladies sometimes. never tried serious to pick up there. again, plenty of places in SH with lots of selections.


Hi all!

I'll be going to Shanghai for the first time Real Soon Now. I'd love some advice for a first time, non-mandarin speaking visitor. I've read a lot in this forum and have a good idea regarding bars, street, spas, etc.

I'll be staying at the Equatorial, not too far from the Hilton. Does anyone have any info about this hotel? Extras available from their spa? "Room service"? Are they guest friendly? Any issues/problems? Do they have a nightclub/bar with available ladies?

Thanks. I haven't found anything about this hotel in the forum. I'll be happy to provide a report on my return.

Blue D
05-18-05, 09:01
Have no seen any reports on the Apt Girl for sometime. Warm weather comes and time to get off the winter hibernation. Spend sometime look up and tried a few. They used to use Sina chat but that has since changed, I now look up the girls on QQ. Good thing about QQ is you get information on their profile w/o having to initiate a direct chat. There seem to have a number of "amateur" now that don't have their own Apt and ask u to get the place. The chat was fun but the downside is these girls are often a hit & miss. Price does not always match quality and picture sometimes are fake. Here is a brief report.

1. Li Na QQ105450303 - her place, in new Gubi near HingMei rd. Description accurate. Look ~7. Service very good (F&I; BBBJ; DATY, FS) and freindly. RMB300

2. xxxx QQ424723092 - decide to check out one that appear to be "amateur". describe herself student,18. That seem to check out later. Does not have her own place. Call her at 10pm, said she'll call back later coz "the dorm" just had the lights out so she'll have to wait. Make a long story short I missed her call at 11pm, call her back at 12 midnight; she had "sneaked" out the dorm to an internet cafe. End up go to pick her up close to 1am. Look about a 7, young and chatty. Talked and talked then she got a sms from her friend - the dorm is locked down and she can't get back in! It's clear she doesn't have the experience to offer the more professional "service" but it turn into a GFE once going. She eventually left around 5am back to the internet cafe to wait out the dorm lock. RMB$500

Blue D
05-18-05, 09:12
Continue on the APT Girls from QQ

3. QQ496506349 Wong Yan - another billed as student amateur. this time a Big Miss. Showed up, look about a 5~6. Try tp hurry the whole thing. Clearly a fake student/amateur. Lots of restriction. No recommanded.

4. QQ476192337 XingXing - Things evens out in life. After lousy miss above, find a Hit this one. Place in XuiJaiHui near CaoJaBon Rd/WenPing Rd. Ex-Model from SZ. 176cm, face a 7.5 and a body 9+, long hair to her ass. And on top of that very good service - the full menu BBBJ, "round the world", Rim, FS etc. She's been come & go to SH, should be around for another month.

I included the QQ# here, but these girls switch their QQ account and even the cell phone no. often so it is not sure you always find the same girl. Another things is some of these girl listed Greek as part of service with additional fee. Have not checked that out yet.

Albert Punter
05-18-05, 13:07
Equatorial is girl-friendly, unless something changed in last months.
It is conveniently located for pick-up: around the corner with Ju Lu Lu (lot of bars), which is almost in front of Hilton; at a walking distance from Tong Ren Lu or Heng Shan Lu, where many hot spots are located.
In the area you can also find many BBS and the famour ZY Pub.

I do not know about services in Spa or room service.

Blue Moon bar features some girls but, as I could understand during my visits, they are there just for company but do not provide "service".

Karaoke is full of real stunners available for take away, very expensive though (RMB 1500 +).

Enjoy your stay

Percent99
05-18-05, 16:56
What is this QQ number and how do apt girls work if someone can explain please

thanks

Sniffer
05-18-05, 17:26
I could not use QQ, because my computer use an English OS, and I could never get QQ to work for me, not even the English version.

I've used sina.com chatroom in the past, and have since switched to 163.com. Sina has changed all of their chatrooms into video chat, and all these part-time/amatuer girls have left. But in either chatrooms, you will have to be able to type and read Chinese.

I agreed with Blue D that these girls are hit and miss. I dealt with a couple of "students" who would come to my hotel. I don't like the idea of going to their apts. But there were several times that when I went to pick up the girls, it just didn't cut it. Some were simply not my style, others were not even close to what they claimed to be.

I guess it's important to be able to just say thanks, but no thanks and walk away when she's not your cup of tea. Well, you may lose a few kuai of taxi fare, but better than ruining a night!

I did have one when I was in Shanghai that was a total GFE.

Good luck!

Chop Sticks
05-18-05, 17:41
Percent99

QQ ist chat software like icq or msn, but only for chinese speaking and typing people.

Blue D
05-19-05, 01:49
QQ is a chat/IM service. You can sign on at www.qq.com. Instead of choosing your own name, they assign you a QQ number, kind of like AIM does. You do get to puit your own "name" and "handle" in addition to that. QQ number is the easiest way to contact the person. You simply look up the member under the QQ number and you will get their profile. If they set their "buddy" acceptance to open, you can add them to your buddy list and see if they are online and send them instant message. Alternately you can look them up at the chat rooms. Some will answer to inquiry in the chat room, others will want to respond 1 on 1.

Apt girls work similar to incall/outcall. Those who have their own place typically a 2 call system. You go to the cross road, call her again and get the apartmet number. Those who does not have their place either come to you (you pay additional taxi fare) or have you pick them up.

I say it again it is kind of hit and miss, and it is quite ok to politely say no thank once you meet and decide it's a miss. I met a few who would even politely ask me "am I acceptable?". I have never bargain on the price, just don't like the practice. Though I notice sometime a girl would sign on with more than one QQ and list their service fee differently. Like everything else in China, must be negotiable too.


What is this QQ number and how do apt girls work if someone can explain please

thanks

Blue D
05-19-05, 02:20
A person favorite of mine when I had very short stop over is the sauna - the It is a sure service, you get to choose (1 by 1 or from line up), you get to shower, refresh, get a real massage (if u want) and you don't even need a place. If you check your luggage at airport, you can even skip the hotel room. You can rest there as long as you want before/after the service.


Gentlemen and fellow mongers,

I have few posts yet due to not being able to post pertinent data and directions in Chengdu, China. Please excuse my impertinence in asking for information from experienced members. I have an upcoming 30 day trip to Chengdu. I will have a 12 hour layover in Shanghai and will be able to sample the nightlife, albeit on a very short basis.

Another member posted that in-hotel entertainment venues were available in Holiday Inn Vista in Shanghai. Approximately, 800 CNY for special room massage FS. Is this information still accurate? Is the bar in hotel a viable option? Do members have any other suggestions or advice in regard to Holiday Inn? I won’t be able to enjoy the BBS services that are quite frequently discussed here. SW are probably out of the question. I simply don’t have the patience to be seeking / bargaining / escorting and paying them with only 8 hours in the city.

For members of the Chengdu Section, in mid to late July, I should have accurate information and directions to at least two venues that I know of, for them.

Thanks in advance to all.

Blue D
05-19-05, 02:45
I have never used call in service in SH - don't really know any. In some hotels in china, you often get a call in the room asking if you want "massage", but not the more classy joint like Sheraton.

With lots of action if you have time best just go check out the scene and a pick up. Some locations like Julu Rd, Mowming Rd & lately Tong Ren Rd there's always some selection.

If you are taking guys out for KTV, you got a sure bet too for take home. Best quality and the price to go with it. The best KTV take out starts at 1500 and up. Just be sure you tell the ma-mi you want to take out BEFORE your line up selection.

Not sure what you look for in term of "classy", KTV all over SH to chhose from - the largest/best selection have over 200 rooms/600 girl (e.g.Tien Shang Ren Gen); I find Jing Bi Hui Huang (Gold Bell Plaza 3/5 fl, Hui Hai Rd) has more english language friendly girls; small/semi private place (e.g. Shen Dien, 22 rooms) has the best class and service; most expensive/decor/"class - Golden Time @ Hui Hai/Shang Shi Rd (take out start at 2000); best quality for the price I like is No 9 club (Tong Hu Rd). Always good to know a good Ma-mi if you go to KTV - to get the best selection and watch out your budget for you. PM me if you need some help.


Gentles all,

I'll be flying in for meetings on the 18th - any suggestions for late night or early morning ladies to come to the Sheraton that might fit my proclivities? My Mandarin is limited to the "hello/goodbye/thanks/yes/no" stage, so complex arrangements aren't likely to work well.

A different question - If we're taking a bunch of engineers and purchasing guys out for dinner and entertainment, any classy (versus merely expensive) recommendations for KTV or other ideas?

Feel free to answer here or PM me.

Much obliged,

- O.C. the Ass Man

James Cook
05-19-05, 12:02
Percent99

QQ ist chat software like icq or msn, but only for chinese speaking and typing people.There is also english version to download. The problem is not the version of QQ messager, but the version of ur operating system. If someone install english version XP, he should select all the chinese codes in the optional bar to display the chinese characters. I have take a stroll at the QQ chatroom, seemingly sina.com apartment gals have all move theirs ads into the the qq chatroom,particular in the city of beijing and shanghai. Keep in mind, sometimes u can't supposed to evaluate her face and body in prior before u make any desicion in the internet unless she get a webcamera. Therefore this option is not recommended, at least on my menu. Anyone here need help, need some phone numbers, or her apartment address, feel free to PM me, and notify me of the district you dwell in either Shanghai or Beijing.

James

Boss
05-19-05, 17:14
Blue D or anyone,

I can understand using QQ for freebies, but what is the advantage to using QQ for paid service providers? You can't see them beforehand unlike, BBS, KTV, sauna, or the street girls. It seems like a lot of trouble to chase after an unknown. Do QQ girls usually end up being cheaper / classier / more GFE?

Boss

Michi
05-19-05, 19:31
Hi Guys,
going to Shanhai from time to time.
In SL Pudong there is a disco with live music in the basement: BATS.
You go in and it takes about 5 mins until a girl wants to join you. Anybody ever tried them? Or pricing information? Or better places inthe near neighborhood??
give me a hand in china guys,
CU Mike

Roversman 999
05-20-05, 04:04
Scene at home last night.. " honey just off for a bike ride.. back in one hour."
Pedal furiously to Hongsong Lu, my street of choice because theres so much choice there.
Went into a new place, but it looked like all the other places Ive been to in that street. No one else in the place so no hidden noises. 21 year old cute provider in silk nightie. 30 minutes later, all done cleaned and hands washed.
Back on bike..arrived home.. " hi, how was the bike ride" Reply.. " same as usual.."
The married guys on this board will appreciate this is as much as I can do...
Anyways, Im leaving in 2 weeks and have set myself a target of going in each of the 12 bbs on that street.

Levitian
05-20-05, 04:48
Rovers,

With you "going home" the Shanghai forum certainly will lose one of its most original contributors. Anyway, have a good time, wherever home is for you.
1 question: Do the Hongsong BBJs provide more than a HJ?

Levitian

Bob Builder
05-20-05, 04:50
Mike,

When the girl joined you, didn't you ask her how much?

Asian Monger #2
05-20-05, 10:19
I wonder if the 2 guys are still in SH. Last I've heard they changed their nicks.

Wonder where are they now? If anyone knows, I'll like to get in touch with them in this forum i.e. probably with their new nick.

I had fond memories last year hunting together with them and their hospitality they extended to me.

Thanks guys!

AM2

Jman90024
05-20-05, 17:37
OK, for those of you wondering what a Shanghai BBS look like, here are some pictures (http://pic.7081.com/info/836-1.htm). For those seasoned BBS goers, let's play name the BBS game! ;)

Jman90024
05-20-05, 18:02
Well, chatroom gals does have a bit of excitement of unknown as well as surprise but it's also hit and miss. There are three types of chatroom girls: organized ones having their own apartments, freelancers, and students. The organized apartment girls are no different then BBS or Sauna but the environment and service are typically better then BBS. Freelancers mostly work on their own terms and are typically GEF. Most of them have day jobs and do enjoy the extra money and sex. Students are out to make a quick bucks without much experience with sex.

Anyway, chatroom girls are just another way to monger with big hit/miss factor.


Blue D or anyone,

I can understand using QQ for freebies, but what is the advantage to using QQ for paid service providers? You can't see them beforehand unlike, BBS, KTV, sauna, or the street girls. It seems like a lot of trouble to chase after an unknown. Do QQ girls usually end up being cheaper / classier / more GFE?

Boss

Michi
05-20-05, 21:22
Mike,

When the girl joined you, didn't you ask her how much?

Wel, .... no, stupid me, I was busy talking to a european guy who invited me.
I still feel embarassed when I am with collegues. So I just would like to tell her my room number and a time, would be quick, but therefore I need the rates!
Any advice?
Otherwise, go there in 3 weeks then I ask!

CU,
Mike

Chop Sticks
05-21-05, 00:37
Blue D,

There are many qq chatrooms.

In which one did you find this girls?

Fido484
05-21-05, 03:16
Michi,

They generally ask for 500 for take aways. Same stuff, you need to buy them drinks first.

Roversman 999
05-21-05, 04:09
Re Hongsong Lu. Simple answer is some do the famous da fei ji ( note to all newbies.. this is the most important chinese words you can learn heheh), other will blow and there is FS usually only after 6pm.
This forum is just a mind blowing place...I only wish I had found it years ago when I was still an intrepid but highly nervous apprentice monger.
Anyways, off to HongKong tomorrow where at 3pm an Indonesian domestic helper will delight in fulfilling my every wish. Bless them, they work hard and have no time to find relationships, so when a nice guy treats them well and maybe a little romantically, they give you everything they have.
Ah.. life is good...!!!

Roversman 999
05-21-05, 04:22
Havent read any reports on the famous tea house for a while.
One drunken night some weeks ago, I did go there but there was only an old guy there, no ladies and the man was waving no no no when I tried to enter.
Would like to make a passing goodbye to the place.. I used to enjoy it fora quick one when was in neighbourhood.

Chop Sticks
05-21-05, 15:08
feiji - 飞机 - plane
fei ji chang - 飞机场 - airport
da - 大 - big
da fei ji - 大飞机 - :-)

correct ?

Red Rock II
05-21-05, 17:24
fei ji chang---飞机场 (airport), normally means a girl that is flate.

da fei ji --- 打飞机(shoot on airplane), normally means HJ

Jman90024
05-22-05, 02:42
Check the location based Shanghai chatroom such as "Shanghai Changning District."



Blue D,

There are many qq chatrooms.

In which one did you find this girls?

OldAsiaHand
05-22-05, 06:03
After two point four years of happy mongering Im leaving Shanghai soon.. but not without having sown my seed in more places that I can remember.
Have Fun....

Roversman99:

We have enjoyed hearing about all your cycling escapades in Shanghai. Thanks for your contributions to the thread.

Happy Hunting!

All the best,

OAH

Member #3003
05-22-05, 06:19
RICKY777's Chinese translation for Da Fei Ji may not be correct in our normal usage in this forum. Sorry , I don't know how to type in the Chinese word here. But it should mean "shoot the aeroplane" i.e. HJ. Da here means "hit" in Chinese and not "big" as RICKY777 puts it. Imagine a cannon shooting an aeroplane. I just mean to help. BTW, RICY777, are you Chinese?

OldAsiaHand
05-22-05, 07:24
AM2,

Legends never die! Expect a PM shortly.

OAH



I wonder if the 2 guys are still in SH. Last I've heard they changed their nicks.

Wonder where are they now? If anyone knows, I'll like to get in touch with them in this forum i.e. probably with their new nick.

I had fond memories last year hunting together with them and their hospitality they extended to me.

Thanks guys!

AM2

Gualtier Malde
05-22-05, 08:07
Thanks for the previous information before I departed for my trip. I'm in Shanghai now, and wanted to share my first night.

I arrived at the hotel around 8pm. I knew I'd be facing jetlag, so on arriving at the Equatorial I showered and thought I'd take a stroll around the neighborhood in the (almost cool) evening air.

I walked around the bars on Huashan Lu/Changshu Lu across from the hilton. I just wasn't interested in trying any of those bars - they seemed like a way to quickly part with money. This one tout kept pestering me, so I eventually wandered down Julu Lu, and eventually down along Fumin Lu. Saw several BBS's, and it was clear that if I even slowed down a girl was going to drag me inside. Wasn't ready for that yet.

Went back to the Equatorial, and hung out in the Blue Moon for a bit. A lady approached me and offered one of her tablemates to me for "$200 US Dollars" to sit and chat, and then go to my room for massage and sex.

They just weren't that attractive to me, and besides, I didn't want to part with $200USD for them. I did tell the lady I would think about it for $100USD, but she just said "This is a four star hotel and these are four star ladies."

Well, I felt fine with just my beer, so I passed.

I decided I'd try to find Malones, so off I went. Along the way, I made eye contact with a very pretty girl as we were both crossing a street. She stopped me in the middle and asked me if I wanted a massage. She was so pretty I turned around and crossed back in her direction. She wanted 2000 RMB, I said no way, I'll give you 400, we settled on 600 which was probably too much but she was just too good to pass. We caught a taxi back, and had a very nice time in my room - massage, ok BJ, and the sex was nice.

When we were done and cleaned up, she said she was heading out to Malones. I asked her to allow me to accompany her, since I didn't know exactly where it was. She then said that in fact she was going to stop somewhere on the way (another client had messaged her), but that we could share a cab and she would tell the cabbie to drop me at Malones. She even offered to pay for the cab, but I covered it. Her name is Lily, and she gave me her number, but not permission to publish it.

At Malones, the place was busy with an energetic band. I wondered if any of this forums participants were there, but I don't know the secret sign yet, so had no way of letting my presence be known.

There were some obviously available women there. One was an Asian clone of Cher, in a pink top. She had that classic Cher hairstyle (the pre-curly Cher), and Cher's long face.

She was moving to the beat, and we made eye contact and started talking. Eventually she popped the question, and we headed out. She too wanted 2000 RMB, which I instantly rejected, but got her to agree to 1000 for the night. (I know, too much probably, but it's my first time - I'm still getting the hang of it...). This one, Suzy, is a semi-pro. She has a day job, and does this for extra cash. She had her own car and drove us back to the hotel. I thought that was sort of unique...

We had a spendid time in the room. This woman can really deep throat, and she just loves to cum. We had lots of fun just getting her off. I know for certain that she came 5 times, possibly more, I just lost count. She would get going and then start moaning and repeating "comfortable, comfortable" over and over until she went over the top.

She got me off twice, which is amazing considering I had already popped with Lily two hours before.

Before the end of the evening she offered to be my Shanghai girlfriend, gave me her number, and offered to take me out sightseeing. Nice of her to offer, but I do want to sample the variety at the Shanghai Buffet before I get locked down...

I eventually sent her on her way (happily, mind you) so that I could deal with my jetlag.

I'll try to submit more as the trip progresses. I do have one more question: Are any of the storefront little bars on Changshu or Julu Lu worth entering, or are they all ripoffs?

Batman
05-22-05, 08:30
Red Rock and Ricky
You guys may have forgotten Fei Ji Chong = runway
These Guangdong boys say it when the Girl has NO tits

Not sure on the Ping Yin

Red Rock II
05-22-05, 19:18
David,

It is very nice report. Thanks! It seems that you did pretty good the first night in Shanghai.

Ace Gallant
05-23-05, 01:50
red rock and ricky
you guys may have forgotten fei ji chong = runway
these guangdong boys say it when the girl has no tits

not sure on the ping yin

guangdong =fei kei chong = airport = girls with no busts.
mandarin = fei ji chang = airport = girls with no busts

guangdong - fei kei pao do = runway = girls with totally flat chest
mandarin = fei ji pao dao = runway = girls with totally flat chest.

either any of these it means if you like doing girls and get an **** feeling that what you will ask for.

Ace Gallant
05-23-05, 01:52
Guys,

Any good suggestion for fun around HongQiao Area?

I am moving to Shanghai soon and will be staying around Hong Qiao or Gu Bei Area.

Need some nice place to hang out and do some nice pick up areas.

Cheers!

Blue D
05-23-05, 04:42
Glad to hear you obviously found ur way and enjoy ur SH 1st night. Personally, I don't advise the Julu Lu bars and some of the other similar types on HS Rd. The bars girls are employed to "push" the drink, and they get commission. So before you get to the proposition, you are pressured into buying over priced drinks for them at RMB100+ a pop. Some of thoise bar girls even hold up not going out sometimes. Having said that, buy a drink or two for the lady would be propoer at any bar. There are a few semi that operated out of XTD/HS Rd that once they get to know you, would ask you buy just one "house" drink to satisfy the joint and switch to regular beer to save you money.

I'll try to submit more as the trip progresses. I do have one more question: Are any of the storefront little bars on Changshu or Julu Lu worth entering, or are they all ripoffs?[/QUOTE]

Blue D
05-23-05, 04:48
In Shanghai Chat room. Usually the XuJiaHui and ChangNing have most, but also JingAn and JaBi. You have to read the handle and figure it out. Only a handful are service providers.

After you found a few, add their QQ to your buddy list then you will see which rooms ther are in.


Blue D,

There are many qq chatrooms.

In which one did you find this girls?

Blue D
05-23-05, 05:09
Indeed QQ is a hit & miss (though if you are patient, you can get freebies) so important you are willing to say no thanks. For someone wanting a sure bet in a short time, I don't recommand it either unless it is a referal. It is just for fun and variety. I have not found the very amateur/student type else where unless one spend equally time to cultivate else where.

Other few differences: the Apt girls usually have better location/room than BBS; they offer LT if you want; Sauna is strictly short time; and finally it's only place I found that a few will openly offer Gr if you r into that.

I have found QQ too different to pin down - I have at times very good luck with top face/body/service and good price, and at times very bad everything including atitude. A few worse than SBTM and a couple greener than colege girl friend (probably coz they are in college and green!) I am not into BBS but have my regular KTV/Sauna/pick up places. Again I only recommand this as a variety. I am simply offering a report to add some variety to the forum since I saw plenty of coverage of other services already.

Cheers


Blue D or anyone,

I can understand using QQ for freebies, but what is the advantage to using QQ for paid service providers? You can't see them beforehand unlike, BBS, KTV, sauna, or the street girls. It seems like a lot of trouble to chase after an unknown. Do QQ girls usually end up being cheaper / classier / more GFE?

Boss

Blue D
05-23-05, 05:44
what kind of pick up you have in mind? freebie or pro?

in front of/around the sheraton tpy & freindship store there are often sw. years ago, the galaxy was a houseful of providers, then they remodel and the action stopped, i understand it is back again. the bar at hongqiao hotel always have a few hanging around. the club inside madarin city used to be famous pick up for "lonely second wives". other than that i am not up to speed in hq anymore. there are however many bbs around.

it is only rmb20 taxi from hq to downtown and imho better pickups are there now. my favorates : xtd, mm rd (old memories are hard to die), hengshen rd; tongren rd & park 97. check out the ladies night at the bars - those are fun.


guys,

any good suggestion for fun around hongqiao area?

i am moving to shanghai soon and will be staying around hong qiao or gu bei area.

need some nice place to hang out and do some nice pick up areas.

cheers!

Player88
05-23-05, 09:03
There are many places in the HongQiao area that are going to be worth exploring. I suggest you read back and look for the "adventures of Roversman" and his BBS excursions. Also, YuPing Sauna and the infamous YanAn Teahouse are also in that are, (though word has it the teahouse may not be what it used to be). Several Japanese styled saunas in the area too though I have no personal reports of such right now to share. Anyways, there is planty of fun to be had at all levels of cost so...have at it! Good hunting!

Gualtier Malde
05-23-05, 11:04
On my second day I decided to try the Happy Garden. I went early, around 5pm. My jet lag was telling me not to expect another evening like the first one.

The entry fee was 866RMB. (Why 866? Why not 850, or 900?)

I was shown to the showers, and upon drying myself, was not offered access to the pools, though I suppose it was because I didn't make the appropriate signals. I think they were available, I just didn't know what to expect or how to make my desires known. Instead, I was led to the recliner room.

Soon I was taken for my massage, through a long warren of hallways.

This had to be the best massage I've ever had (though note I've only had AMP massages). She definitely spent long quality time on me. That alone was worth the entry fee.

Eventually she offered relief, through a long, enjoyable BJ with a HJ thrown in. She allowed access, but not FS. She spoke no english, and I no mandarin, so there was no way for me to ask for more and she wasn't doing sign language.

She did try to say some things to me, but for the life of me I know not what.

After the service, she continued with the massage for a nice long time. She then started (if this is possible) a non-sexual penis massage. You'd have to experience it to know what I mean. Got me hard again anyway.

Eventually tried to say something to me, repeatedly. I didn't get it. So she went to the phone and called someone. She handed the phone to me and that person just said "400 yuan". I assumed at the moment that she was saying that I owed them another 400 for the extra service. I was disappointed at that prospect but just said "OK" into the phone. The masseuse looked at me funny and said "OK? OK?" and sort of laughed.

Then I was led out, offered a shower, and was taken back to my locker to change back to street clothes.

On the way out I fully expected to pay the front desk another 400, but they just said thank you and have a nice day, or the equivalent, and off I went.

Now that I've had a chance to think about it I figure she was probably offering me a takeout price, but I really don't know.

Does anyone have a clue what that was all about?

Jman90024
05-23-05, 13:29
Welcome to the area. There are many places to explore in Hongqiao area. Check back on my report as well as others in this area. Bilihu Sauna is located right in Gubei. Village frequently reported is 15 RMB cab ride away. Xianxia Lu is packed with KTVs. There are many to do in the area.


Guys,

Any good suggestion for fun around HongQiao Area?

I am moving to Shanghai soon and will be staying around Hong Qiao or Gu Bei Area.

Need some nice place to hang out and do some nice pick up areas.

Cheers!

Sniffer
05-23-05, 15:36
There is also english version to download. The problem is not the version of QQ messager, but the version of ur operating system. If someone install english version XP, he should select all the chinese codes in the optional bar to display the chinese characters.

James

James: When you say "select all the Chinese codes in the optional bar", do you mean the language setting of WinXP? Or the setting in QQ? I've tried to install the English version of QQ before, but still couldn't get it to work. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Albert Punter
05-23-05, 17:29
In my experience bars on Changshu or Julu Lu are not ripoffs.
Anyhow, I suggest that when you go there you come out quickly with a girl, otherwise bill can increase substantially.

I would recommend you to go to bars at ladies' night. There you can select from freebies (for free of course) or semi-pro (stay low with price).
Anyhow, you will have fun without spending for girls' drinks.

This is a partial update of ladies' night venues:
- Tuesday: M-Zone at 88 Tong Ren Lu;
- Wednesday: Zapata's at 5 Heng Shan Lu, and Dragon Club at 156 Fenyang Lu;
- Thursday: Madam Zung at 4 Xiang Shan Lu
- Friday: Salt & Pepper at 146 Tong Ren Lu
- Saturday: Mural at 697 Yongjia Lu, near Heng Shan Lu

Enjoy

James Cook
05-24-05, 07:25
James: When you say "select all the Chinese codes in the optional bar", do you mean the language setting of WinXP? Or the setting in QQ? I've tried to install the English version of QQ before, but still couldn't get it to work. Any help or advice would be appreciated.sniffier: I meant the selection in the regional and language option/control panel /xp system. There is code page conversion table in which u choose all the chinese character codes to display chinese.Hopefully this work out for you.

Xiao Ma
05-24-05, 10:40
On my second day I decided to try the Happy Garden. I went early, around 5pm. My jet lag was telling me not to expect another evening like the first one.

The entry fee was 866RMB. (Why 866? Why not 850, or 900?)

I was shown to the showers, and upon drying myself, was not offered access to the pools, though I suppose it was because I didn't make the appropriate signals. I think they were available, I just didn't know what to expect or how to make my desires known. Instead, I was led to the recliner room.

Soon I was taken for my massage, through a long warren of hallways.

This had to be the best massage I've ever had (though note I've only had AMP massages). She definitely spent long quality time on me. That alone was worth the entry fee.

Eventually she offered relief, through a long, enjoyable BJ with a HJ thrown in. She allowed access, but not FS. She spoke no english, and I no mandarin, so there was no way for me to ask for more and she wasn't doing sign language.

She did try to say some things to me, but for the life of me I know not what.

After the service, she continued with the massage for a nice long time. She then started (if this is possible) a non-sexual penis massage. You'd have to experience it to know what I mean. Got me hard again anyway.

Eventually tried to say something to me, repeatedly. I didn't get it. So she went to the phone and called someone. She handed the phone to me and that person just said "400 yuan". I assumed at the moment that she was saying that I owed them another 400 for the extra service. I was disappointed at that prospect but just said "OK" into the phone. The masseuse looked at me funny and said "OK? OK?" and sort of laughed.

Then I was led out, offered a shower, and was taken back to my locker to change back to street clothes.

On the way out I fully expected to pay the front desk another 400, but they just said thank you and have a nice day, or the equivalent, and off I went.

Now that I've had a chance to think about it I figure she was probably offering me a takeout price, but I really don't know.

Does anyone have a clue what that was all about?No worry, it is not a take out.

The price 866 included a service witout FJ, I enjoy the place when I was working in Shanghai Plaza 66.

@sh
05-24-05, 11:15
Davidxyz:

she was just confirming the 400 Yuan charge for the second hour. The massage is two hours. the HJ and BJ you got was the second hour. This is standard practice at all saunas.

Ace Gallant
05-24-05, 11:19
Thanks for advise for fellow mongers.

Will make some hunting and give a detail report once done.

Ace Gallant
05-24-05, 11:26
Thanks for advise for fellow mongers.

Will make some hunting and give a detail report once done.

Hooray Hooray! I finally got my identity "Darkman2"

Thanks to Jackson.

By the way: Although I am Darkman, I am Chinese.

Roversman 999
05-25-05, 09:07
I know its not the HK page but as Im resident in Shanghi thought Id add my HK play story. Arrived HK sunday lunch. Met up with my Indonesian squeeze at 3pm. Shes 42kg, funny and hadnt seen me for 3 months. Says she hasnt been with any guys in that time so she was like a tiger. Had her every which way. Dropped her at HK Station for her to take train to Tsing Yi at 7pm.
Called my other filipina DH friend but she didnt answer fone.
Had dinner and beers and sat next to a lady in New Makati. She was Indonesian, maybe a 6. Id already shot 3 bullets so wasnt concerned if i scored or not. After 20 mins chat she indicated she wasnt a working girl but would be happy to accompany me. Off we went.. back in room asked if i wanted massage. Happily stripped and laid down.
Then my filipina DH friend called and asked why my fone wasnt on.. and that her BF was away and could she catch the ferry and come on over.. Hasty excuse that I was unwell.. hate to do that but..anyways the Indo continued.. gave a great BJ... even managed sex and we slept. In morning I realised she was larger than I thought.. maybe 60kgs but she gave a great wake up BJ.. and she left.. no money or anything changed hands. We didnt even exchange names which I found funny.
Next night.. found a cutie in New makati and tho I was willing I had a 8am meeting with my new boss so declined the chance.
After the meeting was feeling horny. So decided to call a divorced filipina friend who mentioned she had some filipina " lodgers". I sent her a text and said cheekily if she had a girl for me i was ready. 5 mins later I got a call from a girl who said she was on her way to my hotel. I waited by door and saw her from behind.. tall slim and very nice from behind. Then she turned around.. like a bus back end. Darn.. so we still went upstairs and did it but I kissed with eyes closed hahah..left her 200HK.. she was only in room for 45 minutes. And that was my trip to HK.. not high on quality but sometimes action is better than no action......now im ready for this weekend when two secretary types will get nailed,one on saturday, one on sunday in a hotel room. Im tired of sex in the car.....

Roversman 999
05-26-05, 04:36
Will treat myself to a departing Shanghai sauna or two next week. Do any readers have any strong recommendations as to THE BEST sauna in town ??
I want one where they do the famous blow whilst swinging from the bars. am interested in a long and fun time and not just a quick fuck..for this sauna visit, its a money no object thing !

Ace Gallant
05-27-05, 00:50
got into shanghai early morning of 26th.

afternoon of 26th i was going down xian xia lu doing my hunt. may be i was too early (at 2:30pm!) any i had nothing to do. saw a few bbs, peeps into them, girls are just as "welcome" try to pull you inside! this is my first day landing in shanghai so i wanted to do more hunting so i did not try any of them. came across a sauna. the entence looks very grand "apollo sauna" sound like the sauna "apollo" in macau. asked about the services offered, prices etc. the managress intro for some massages milk bath etc. but it did not look like there are any "special service" been offered. any fellow mongers tried apollo?

talk further down. saw a massage place "jin yi" basement of the building. went in. manager explain the different type of massage. looks like a normal massage place. rmb100 / hour for body massage and there are foot massage. well its 3pm on thrusday afternoon. i told myself "oh what to heck!" at a full body and foot massage afterall i came in on red eye flight. need a good massage. the attendant lead me into a room., changed . and get on the mssage chair a guy came in doing my foot while the lady attendant started on my head etc. we spoke along. after a hour later the foot mssage finish. guy left. th efull body massage was two hours so the lady attendant (she said she was 17 - quite cute looking, but small size) continue. finish finish an hour later. during the massage she ask about what i was doing in shanghai , where i am staying, blah blah blah. i turn on my usual charms. when i was leaving i gave her a rmb100 tip. she ask me to wait. tooks the shops card wrote her mobile number and whisper to me. "i like to have dinnner with you!"

at 6 pm called her. she off work at 8pm. met her at city centre. had dinner and somehow. she got struck to me and ended up on my bed! not too bad! very tight and young. not the kind of "knock you off your feet looks" but what the heck! the best part is that she spent the night with me had a few shots. left 20 mins ago and she don't even ask for a single cent! before she left i took my wallet and wanted to pay her something but she told me straight that she is not a k-mei (ktv - girls - which get paid for sex) and refused any money from me! i gave her rmb100 just for taxi home. kiss and hug me and asked me to call her if i am free. offered to bring me around on sunday her off day!

i was thinking. am i lucky or what?

anyways. todays friday! more hunting to do today! more report in the weekends!

cheers!

Albert Punter
05-27-05, 01:34
Wednesday night between 7:30 and 8:00 I was headed to McD in Huai Hai in front of Times Square.
Together with me entered a couple of latinas looking girls (also, as far as I could understand they were speaking spanish).
They were dressed like SW, mini-mini skirts, high heels, blondish hair, etc. .
We went to counter and I continued to look at them. One of them had big breast (looked real).
I was going to talk to them, when I got distracted by the staff for payment.
When I turned their side they were disappeared :-<

Did anyone of you know them or notice them ?

They looked very hot.
You know, after a lot Chinese food you wish some variety.

Suzhou
05-28-05, 01:59
Last night having dinner, take a walk through Jiao Zhou Road until reaching Xin Zha road. Found ZY pub, so I walk right in, no body at the bar stand.. walk further onto the back and the mamasan ask me to have a seat and I order a budweiser. A cutie with 9 for look come over and take me to the small partician, she went out and brought in the tissue. After that get down to work. I presonally think that the RMB350 that I paid for really worth it as having a nice cutie performing BBBJCIM is really nice.Another thing is that, her skill is good plus after I unload my stuff onto her mouth, she spit out nicely to the plate without a single sound compare to the huang pi nan lu BJ factory where they make those goggle noice during spitting that really turn the mood down.By the way, for those that wanna try her out, her name is Jessie or "Zhou xin".

My Pod
05-28-05, 07:21
Have been lurking the site till I've finally been given regular member status so hopefully I can add my 2 bits in from time to time.

Any recommendations for outcall massage services with HJ & BJ and preferably FS thrown in. Even better if the girl speaks some English, cause my Mandarin does not go far beyond a Ni Hao

Thanks guys

OldAsiaHand
05-28-05, 07:28
Suzhou,

For nearly 3 to 1 (RMB390 vs. RMB350), I will put up with the "goggle noise". BTW, when I was at the BJ factory, the girl I had did not make much noice at all if I remember. She was pretty good at her job.

Just my POV.

OAH

Albert Punter
05-28-05, 17:22
After a day spent with a supercutie I had dated through a website without clinching, I was more than horny.
Came back home and read last posts.
Suzhou's report about ZY Pub attracted my attention, as it is some time I do not visit such places.
So I decided to head there.
The mentioned Jessie was "occupied", so I got another girl: no English but beautiful tits, small with very nice-to-suck nipples.
While I was already naked with my cork fully erected, some girls went by.
My girl called Jessie and she came into the cubicle: very pretty, so I invited her to join. Looking at me in that situation usual phrase came out: you are very big (maybe I really am).
Double BBBJ was very enjoyable, in addition nipples sucking and fingering was allowed freely.
These girls are available for take away but you have to call pub manager, they do not provide their mobile number (cost in that case is RMB 700, which is what I paid for the double).


P.S. Shortly I will report about website dating activity which kept me busy for the past months.

Hitman2
05-29-05, 11:11
Roversman,
I got this type of BJ (uncovered) at Skyline Sauna and Alice Sauna. I strongly prefer Skyline as it is the most clean and comfortable location and usually you get a very good massage there as well. Detals can be found in plenty previous posts. Have fun.



Will treat myself to a departing Shanghai sauna or two next week. Do any readers have any strong recommendations as to THE BEST sauna in town ??
I want one where they do the famous blow whilst swinging from the bars. am interested in a long and fun time and not just a quick fuck..for this sauna visit, its a money no object thing !

Ace Gallant
05-29-05, 17:35
Any Fellow monger be kind enough to give directions or address to these Saunas? I searched these whole tread for Bilihu and Yu Ping and came up with no address or directions.

Thanks.

Ace Gallant
05-29-05, 18:03
Any Fellow monger be kind enough to give directions or address to these Saunas? I searched these whole tread for Bilihu and Yu Ping and came up with no address or directions.

Thanks.

By the way. What kind of service does these Saunas offer? HJ, BJ, FS?

Any information will be helpful.

Thanks

Ace Gallant
05-29-05, 18:14
Waves Sauna,

Next to Conch Hotel.

Service offered: HJ, CBJ, FS

Damage: RMB 650 for FS

1) Get into the normal routine of changing room
2) Shower
3) Sauna or Jaguzzi
4) Up stairs VIP room
5) Drinks and order food (free as in package of 650)
6) Manager ask what you like for arrangement
7) Masssage is 90mins in which they will lead you to a massage room with the girl waiting
8) You can go straight into whatever you like HJ, CBJ or FS
9) Standard routine: Massage, rimming, CBJ, HJ and FS
10) Finish off, back to VIP room.
11) Additional of 50 you get 1 hour foot massage
12) Additional of another 50 you get extended foot massage which the same foot massage girl will HJ you off in the next 1 hour.

Special for regular or VIP guest:

I get to see a line up of the girls in my VIP room before I proceed to the massage.
I get a foot massage for free included in the 650 otherwise 2 + 1 hours is extra of 100 on top of 650

Girls changes every 3 months. Young , 18 ~ 23 year old mainly from North East of China.

St Germain
05-30-05, 01:52
Darkman,

Yuping sauna is located at 448 Zunyi Lu. The nearest subway station is Zhongshan Park. From there it's a short taxi ride to the sauna. The entrance is on the first floor, on the right side of a hotel if I remember correctly.

Last time I went to Yuping, the girl told me Yuping and Conch (Hailuo) have the same owner and they switch the girls back and forth between the two.

Price for a 70 minute massage, fire & ice, A/R, FS routine is RMB 650. The posted price is 700, so make sure you ask for 650 up front when you walk in. That was the case several months ago, may have changed since then.

Yes, I did a search for Bilihu a while ago and couldn't find it either. If anyone can provide directions to this place, I would appreciate it too.

Count

Roversman 999
05-30-05, 02:22
Decided that was tired of bonking in the Buick..so splashed out and rented a room in a decent 5 star hotel. Went to hotel on saturday morning in order to check in, do the passport thing etc. I hate girlfriends watching my passport details when I check in these cheap hotels, and then I have to explain why Ive given the gf a false name.
Anyway, pick up the first date at 4pm at her home in Honkyou.. nice girl, 28, secretary who I found through yahoo chat. Friendly, good figure
She was perfectly fine when I said we were going to a hotel.. we arrived..went straight to room, had some wine and off we went. No shyness about being naked, just good solid sex. She had even shaved a little for me but let me shave her entirely. Left room at about 9, drove her home and collapsed . Three shots really wears me out.
Next day collected my other secretary friend. Shes tall, funny and really quite sweet..we were chatting in the car and she finally told me that I was only the second guy who has kissed her. And that she had only had sex with one man before. Well, I bonked her in my car on second date so it just goes to show you can get lucky if you treat them nice. Anyways, we got to the room, had wine and off come the clothes. Big hairy bush which I trimmed a little. I think her first boyfriend must have been a chinese " push it in and out" type... as I found out hed never kissed her pussy. So I spent a long time doing that and she came twice. I then found the boyfriend hadnt taught her proper BJ technique and she was a very willing student. So taught her to take care of the balls, how to suck and blow, how to assrim ...we both had lots of fun. And of course, she flatters my ego by telling me how " big I am in comparison" She had a funny way of building up to an orgasm then saying " Ive finished".. by my count she finished 8 times.Anyways, we had 4-5 hours there and again was exhausted. Dropped her off in Peoples Square and went home. Overall a great weeknd. Aside from paying for the room, I didnt spend one cent and nothing was expected by my friends.
Ive been a fan of chat friends for a long time as they are easy to find, are always genuine people, never want money and in most cases are sweet girls who just want some attention...and are as horny as the rest of us.
Am having lunch with a secretary today and another tomorrow. Todays lunch date hinted to me on saturday night that if I was in Pudong I could have visited her in her apartment...I was too tired to go, but may go tonight If I can... however tonight is also my Skyline Sauna debut....Im having a GREAT week...!!!!

Nelly
05-30-05, 07:16
Hi guys,

I'm a girl in Shanghai. This is an ID I "borrowed" from a friend who frequents this website. I know this is a forum especially for guys but I would like to ask for a big favor from whoever has had 3some experience (2 girls and 1 guy) in Shanghai to recommend me a girl, an ordinary girl or a (clean) working girl with good attitude toward 3some. I'm very sexually adventurous however I haven't got a chance to try out 3some as most my girl friends are pretty prudent when it comes to the subject, sex. So could anyone give me a hand? Please?

Many, many, thanks.

Dragon419
05-30-05, 11:08
I'm staying at the Jianguo Hotel in a couple of weeks. Can anyone recommend any action within walking distance or nearby? Would be nice to meet some young locals.

Ace Gallant
05-30-05, 14:44
Darkman,

Yuping sauna is located at 448 Zunyi Lu. The nearest subway station is Zhongshan Park. From there it's a short taxi ride to the sauna. The entrance is on the first floor, on the right side of a hotel if I remember correctly.

Last time I went to Yuping, the girl told me Yuping and Conch (Hailuo) have the same owner and they switch the girls back and forth between the two.

Price for a 70 minute massage, fire & ice, A/R, FS routine is RMB 650. The posted price is 700, so make sure you ask for 650 up front when you walk in. That was the case several months ago, may have changed since then.

Yes, I did a search for Bilihu a while ago and couldn't find it either. If anyone can provide directions to this place, I would appreciate it too.

Count


Thanks Count!

Will try Yu Ping out one of these nights.

Ace Gallant
05-30-05, 15:28
Oh Man.... I can't believe that Skyline Sauna get such good reviews here!

Due to the highly recommended reviews I decided to try out Skyline with a friend from Singapore last Sunday evening.

We found to place quite easily (Thanks to directions by fellow mongers and the big billboard on the building where Skyline is).

Arrived there we were received by the managers with the same kind of routine. Did our usual shower and soak, lead to the VIP room. Manager -mama san appeared after 10 mins. Told her to arrange everything. She returned lead us the massage room. Rooms are clean and deco is OK. But the girl is Fat and 25+!

I got a shocked! I asked Mama san back and told her that she is not my type. My Singapore Friend had the same complains! We are brought back to our VIP room. And Mama san started showing us faces of frustrations. I gave her a piece of my mind. "Hey, you think we are fucking stupid or what? Two stupid foreigners who just bumped into this place by accident? We came on highy recommendations by respectable friends and we better get the same respect and VIP treatment as other Saunas in Shanghai!" And started scolding her in Japanese followed by English!

She realized that I am not a fucking local (Can;t she tell from my looks?) and started apologizing and told us to wait while she arranged for better girls. She left the room and return 5 mins later with line ups 7 girls! Oh god! me and my friend realized at this moment that we came to the wrong place. None of them are by our defination of near the Cute word! Told mama san "Is that all you got? I understand it is 8pm on a Sunday night, if you don;t have it today you better tell us!" She replied "Sorry Sorry... these are our best girls... they have good skills and service... if you are not happy I you will not need to pay for the girls!"

Well.... I am guy who demand for good service and quality for money but not a cheapo. Anyways..... as I said none of them are anywhere near to 'cute'. We made the best out of the 7. Service was routine. Massage, Nude mssage, HJ, BJ and finish off with FS! But that is not the end of the story!

Apparently my friend was not that lucky. When I got back into the VIP room after 90mins, I found my firend already there. I asked him "How?" He said "This is the worst Sauna I ever been!" After exchanging notes... I also found that he did not even get FS! his attendant told him that FS is not available in Skyline! Oh shit! I call the Mama San only to find her already off work and another manager came which he got a piece of my mind! And next thing.... he dare even to tell us that the girl was right... they don;t give FS! I told him off that if that is the case, tell me what did I got from my attendant? Don;t tell me that she have another pair of lips in between her legs!

After a 10 mins long lecture from me... we headed for the shower and left.

This have got to be the worst Sauna I ever been to!

Am I picky or have I got a different treatment compared to fellow mongers who had visited Skyline?

Please tell me I am wrong!

Ace Gallant
05-30-05, 15:58
Fellows,

I found this New Cheap hotel in HongQiao Area. I was returning to my hotel (Marriot) after the bad experience on Skyline Sauna and passed by a new nice looking hotel in Hami Lu. Bao Long Homelike Hotel. I decided to check it out. Use it as a secondary place for parties on weekends or times when I bring girls from bars for some fun!

Turn out that the cost of a room (About 12 sqm) cost only 280/night. Rooms are clean, and because it is opened 2 months ago everything is brand new! It has free ADSL internet service. One of the receiption is quite cute looking!

Here is the interesting part! At the reception where I enquire about the rates, the manager said to me "There is a Massage center on the second floor." But if you stay here, you can have your massage in your room. I asked "What kind of massage?" He smile at me and gave me a wink! And said "Standard service price 450RMB"

I got a room and the moment I walked into my room, I received a call from the massage center "Mr... do you want a massage?" Sweet voice. I replied "Depends on whether you are sweet looking?" She said "I will get to best girl for you!" Minutes later... a sweet young looking girl about 19 - 20 year old knock at my door. The moment the door closed behind her.... she started taking my clothes off! Took hers off! push me into the showers! rub me down. BJ in the showers. Dry off...carry her to bed..... did her and finish off in about 100+ mins.

We started talking . Asked her if this hotel is specially for this purpose she said "No". I told her that I kind of like the front desk girl. to my surprise... she told me "If you like her... I can arrange for you. But you must stay in another hotel." Oh Man... I got to try that! We chatted for a couple of minutes. did her my second. Went to sleep. woke up in the morning at 4am did her again. Let her off at 6am... I washed up. Asked her the damage and she asked for only 900! Apparently 450 was for one shot! Before she left, she reminded me to call her via the massage center phone and she will arrange for the date with front desk receiption.

So, Sunday turns up to be not so bad afterall!

Will try getting the front desk girl tomorrow night!

Also my attendant told me that here are about 30 over girls in the massage center on the second floor!

Total damage at 900 + 280 (room) = 1180 for overnight, not bad at all!

Michi
05-30-05, 19:57
Hi brothers,
I have to apologise, but I will never make it for all the chinese street names written in a thousand varieties. Same for Taiwan as for Shanghai.
Could somebody give me some advice for bars (maybe BJ bars), take away places or HCs close to Shangri-La Pudong? Thanks in advance.
I just tried BATS in the hotel, got some advice here to for 600RMB and the guy was right. But if I go back now, the girl continuously bothers me, so look for other place.
Thanls,
Mike

Roversman 999
05-31-05, 02:17
Decided was too tired for my planned Skyline romp last night so thought would check out the Tea House as its been 5 months since last there.
Hard work to park in the military hospital behind the tea house but when the female security guard told me no space, I pointed to my dick and indicated pain. She let me in hohoho.
Anyways, entered Tea house and all as before. Theres my favourite Shin-Je form Shandong. We headed upstairs and no need to even turn the kareoke machine on...she got my mike out and sang very well. One of the funny parts of having had a prostate removal op last year is that I can no longer produce semen.. consequently girls in BBS have no idea when I actually come. Similarly, last night, my provider was most suprised to realise that I had come " in her mouth" with nothing coming out...
Anyways, from there went in seearch of the BJ bar in Jingan Temple. Found it, but was put off by the fact that the two chinese guys inside were always making suggestions to my girl of my choice and leering etc.. its a tiny place and I didnt like it so left.
Ended up going for a foot massage where the most fun was ocassionally rubbing my foot on the breast as if by accident of my 17 year old foot masseuse.
So, where will I go tonight.....????

Ace Gallant
05-31-05, 05:13
Decided was too tired for my planned Skyline romp last night so thought would check out the Tea House as its been 5 months since last there.
Hard work to park in the military hospital behind the tea house but when the female security guard told me no space, I pointed to my dick and indicated pain. She let me in hohoho.
Anyways, entered Tea house and all as before. Theres my favourite Shin-Je form Shandong. We headed upstairs and no need to even turn the kareoke machine on...she got my mike out and sang very well. One of the funny parts of having had a prostate removal op last year is that I can no longer produce semen.. consequently girls in BBS have no idea when I actually come. Similarly, last night, my provider was most suprised to realise that I had come " in her mouth" with nothing coming out...
Anyways, from there went in seearch of the BJ bar in Jingan Temple. Found it, but was put off by the fact that the two chinese guys inside were always making suggestions to my girl of my choice and leering etc.. its a tiny place and I didnt like it so left.
Ended up going for a foot massage where the most fun was ocassionally rubbing my foot on the breast as if by accident of my 17 year old foot masseuse.
So, where will I go tonight.....????


Kind enough to share the location or address of the Tea House? And perhaps a descriptions of what kind of service and damage you get there will be Good.

Thanks.

Sh Captain
05-31-05, 05:19
Dragon,

I think I remember this hotel has a ton of bb shops nearby. What are the streets? Just let me know I want to be sure. I think you are going to be happy.

Sh Captain

Blue D
05-31-05, 05:27
This is a little off the subject but I thought it is fun to share. In addition to the lively hunting ground for us guys, service for ladies are also available in SH. Better known as "duck shops", though the one's I saw was pretty boring.

Last Friday went to a lady friend's B'day party - 3 guys, 9 girls, finish dinner arpund 9pm then to have more fun. Majority rules in this case, so off we went to Armanie 2 Club. Disco on ground floor and private rooms on second and third, and yes, boths ducks and "chickens" are available. With that many people in our group, we had lines of "girls" then "guys" parade in & out forever for the selection process (rule was each of us HAD to pick someone, no present company allowed). We were on 3rd floor and I went out to the restroom, the whole standby crew of guys on one end and the girls on another end of the hall way; quite a sight. I finally drag my ass off at 4am, later was told the girls stayed till 8am. I didn't want to know what happened.

So next time you guys have mixed company who demand equal opportinity treatment, there it is. lol

Blue D
05-31-05, 05:32
Can anyone help me out. Friend of mine coming to visit and heard about the Sauna where trhe girl hang from the bar from the ceiling and wanted to visit. For the life of me I can't remember where it is, went back 15,20 pages and still didn't find any post of the location. Anyone recall where it is?

Post or PM me,

Thanks

Roversman 999
05-31-05, 08:53
Dear darkman, somewhere about 9 months ago there were loads of posts about the Tea House including exact location,then it got busted and went quiet.
Exact address escapes me but if you its close to the Yanan highway in Hongqiou. Same road as Yanan highway, just on the under highway road.
I think its Yanan Hongxu.
There a row of shops, one selling chinese lamps, three restaurants etc and its in that row of shops. Next to a golf shop theres a door with curtains on it. Its in front of a large hospital. Its also close to the part of yanan road where theres a large tunnel construction.Wlk in the the door and there will be a mama and papa and some ladies. Its a kareoke place or a fuck place. You choose. All services available.. i checked the little bag of tissues my xioajie had last night and there was a condom in it. Dont know FS price as i only wanted BJ. Usually pay 100 for the room, 15-20 for the beer and whatever reasonable for the girl. Last night paid 150. She wanted 200.
Seems like you and I are major posters here recently.. think my try your massage place tonight....

Roversman 999
05-31-05, 08:56
Dear Dark, realise I know Hami road well. I used to cycle up and down it. Theres a BBS next to police station that was really dirty place with some horrible old dogs in it.

Roversman 999
05-31-05, 10:34
Hi Nelly, ... my friend is currently out of town otherwise will be happy to give you her number. Shes a very active lady but only with her special friends. She and I have met several times in her apartment and she has some interesting costumes. Shes not a hooker.. in fact shes just a regular lady with a strong sexual appetite. Tell me more about what you want to do and maybe I can send her email and find out when shes returning. I guess you got a lot of responses to your placement here.


Hi guys,

I'm a girl in Shanghai. This is an ID I "borrowed" from a friend who frequents this website. I know this is a forum especially for guys but I would like to ask for a big favor from whoever has had 3some experience (2 girls and 1 guy) in Shanghai to recommend me a girl, an ordinary girl or a (clean) working girl with good attitude toward 3some. I'm very sexually adventurous however I haven't got a chance to try out 3some as most my girl friends are pretty prudent when it comes to the subject, sex. So could anyone give me a hand? Please?

Many, many, thanks.

Nelly
05-31-05, 11:18
Hi Nelly, ... my friend is currently out of town otherwise will be happy to give you her number. Shes a very active lady but only with her special friends. She and I have met several times in her apartment and she has some interesting costumes. Shes not a hooker.. in fact shes just a regular lady with a strong sexual appetite. Tell me more about what you want to do and maybe I can send her email and find out when shes returning. I guess you got a lot of responses to your placement here.Hi Roversman,

Thanks for writing back. So far I've got 2 replies, including yours. I don't have any specific plan but I do hope that, if possible, I can try to develope a relationship with a bisexual/gay girl.

Ace Gallant
05-31-05, 12:49
Dear Dark, realise I know Hami road well. I used to cycle up and down it. Theres a BBS next to police station that was really dirty place with some horrible old dogs in it.

Oh man.... BBS along Hami are all filled with Old dogs and the place are dirty and smelly. I walked into a few to see but was driven out by the smells!

Those are places that I never recommend!

Ralph Kramden
05-31-05, 14:28
Gents,

Darkman 2's report about the Bao Long Homelike Hotel sounded quite good so I checked it out via Google. You can book a room on the Internet here:

http://www.bootsnall.com/hostels/d/12334/Bao+Long+Homelike+Hotel+(Hong+Qiao).php

I will try it myself sometime.

Ace Gallant
05-31-05, 16:05
Right after I made that posting of Conch Hotel - Waves Sauna, I received lots of PM asking for the address of Conch Hotel.

I am not too sure the full address of that place but it is long Zhong San Xi Lu and in Chinese it is Hai Luo Ping Guan. It is a old hotel so most of the Taxis drivers will know the place.

Waves Sauna is not very new but the place is clean and I been there at least 10 time before. I had different girl every time, I found it is a hit everytime.

Enjoy!

Albert Punter
05-31-05, 17:02
JianGuo Hotel is located in Cao Xi Lu, which is in my opinion a little out of the action, unless BBS are located there (it is an area I do not go often).
Maybe at night you should move north-east to hunt for girls in bars or discos.

Cebu Local
05-31-05, 22:58
After extensive reading on this board and useful information advice from people on the board,Thanks Guys I had an enjoyable trip to Shanghai.I arrived on warm afternoon and was met by my host and brought to the Howard Johnson Palm Beach Resort about 45 minutes from Downtown Shanghai.The beach was nothing great compared to Thai and Philippine Beaches,But the rooms were nice and roomy,Food was good especially the Seafood and staff attentive.But beat this,They had a massage center with THAI massage attendants from Thailand.Paid 295 RM for a Thai Style Massage by a real Thai.Yes I know this is expensive compared to BKK,but this was in Shanghai, I understand import costs,work permit etc.Then tipped her 300 RM for FS and all the works.Funny I never thought I would end up using my basic Thai in Shanghai.She gave me a genuine Thai experience having worked in a BKK Mp before going to China
The following evening,The group and I were invited to a wine tasting at the Whampoa Club,at the super ritzy Three on the Bund Building.The building is filled with many beautiful but somewhat pricey places.I met this drop dead gorgeous Chinese Girl who was like me working in the travel industry.She was a real head turner being an 8-9 in looks.Her english was excellent since She studied University in Canada.In fact We both studied at the same University in Vancouver.We really hit it off and after the Wine Tasting,We had Dinner at the New Heights bar on the the top of Three on the Bund.The view of Pudong and the river was amazing.Nothing else happened except for a good night kiss,but this woman was a real head turner with guys admiring her.
The following day,I met her for Tea in the afternoon and then after walking around the Xintendei area and Dinner at a place called Luna,We ended up in my room.She was fantastic and the fact that she was western educated,We had no communication problem in bed.No Traditional Chinese hangups,hairy armpits,etc.I hope you guys understand why I cannot post her picture because she is apparently well known in Shanghai and around China.She showed me her picture where she came out in Shanghai Tatlers current issue.Trust me,She was a real head turner looking classy and elegant.
The next 2 days where spent with her before I headed off th Hangzhou,which I shall post in the Hangzhou section.Basically We had Lunches,Dinners and lots of Bar Hopping mostly around the Nanjing Lu,Bund and Xintendei area.She was really awesone both in and out of bed.Being well educated,She was explaining the history and background of many of the places in Shanghai we visited.She also had a lot of contacts,For example at the Peace Hotel on the Bund,I wanted to see the famous private room there,but It was closed to the Public,She talked to the GM who was her friend to open the place for us to look at.She paid for the some of snacks and coffees,I paid for really nice Dinners and Lunches at Lerrys Restaurant,M on the Bund etc.
After I got back from Hangzhou,We spent most of my free time together and she will be flying to Cebu this October for a week during the double 10 weeklong holiday.She will be paying for her own ticket,but I will be taking her to Boracay and Palawan.Overall a Fantastic Shanghai experience,Sorry I wasnt able to get to try any BBS,but It you had a choice between Paris hilton or JoLo vs a normal streetgirl,I hope you understand why I went with the high road.Shanghai was a true experience I will never forget

Roversman 999
06-01-05, 01:29
Readers will know Im on a mad despreate dash to get maximum joy out of my last few days in Shanghai. Last night was no exception. Based on Darkmans report headed to Hami Lu, a road I know well. Went to the hotel in question and found the massage place.. its a small room on 4th floor.. with only two providers. Anyways, chose the much better one, we ascended some stairs and had long oil massge. After 30 minutes we moved to another room where the bed ( read, mattress on floor was). Off came the clothes..but strangely every time I touched her pussy, her face screwed up either in pain or in ecstacy. I wasnt sure so wasnt too keen on putting my cock in it. She however then went and fingered herself in a very turn on way. But, then after licking my cock and balls she starts doing the spitting thing, which I hate.. anyways she continued and she too was amazed that I came in her mouth without any "come.
Anyways, oats are rising. So went to bar way off Hongquio Lu ,the address of which was provided by a contributor here. Got to the bar, no one in it. Said to barman, barman, mey-ou xiao-jie tsele in my best manadarin. He said, wait.. i call one. Will be RMB200. I said sure.. money no object in my pussy quest.Ten minutes later a cute 22 year old provider arrived and we go upstairs. There are tall booths where no one can see anything. We got her breasts uncovered and her panties on floor...she had very well developed chest and sparely haired pussy. She sucked and instead of spitting, she drank her beer. Much better. Anyways, after 20 minutes all done. No tip.. I guess the barman gave her the tip from my RMB200. Not the best experience but interesting.
Then I went to see a lady I know. Should advise that I was chatting one afternoon several weeks ago on icq and met a lady..we met that night for coffee.. but she wouldnt hold my hand, wouldnt invite me in to her apartment or anything. Thought it was a washout. Few weeks later she asked if i wanted to visit her apartment. No time. So anyway, last night, we arranged to meet, and I didnt have high expectation, but having come twice i didnt matter what ocurred. We met near Tianhong Hotel near Hengshan Road. She was wearing short skirt and showing nice cleavage.. Shes a single businesswoman, maybe 35. About 5ft 11 with long hair so looks very cool and composed. Chatted in her apartment till about 11.30. Then I got my shoes and said I was going.. she asked if I needed to go ( me, playing hard to get. ..thats a laugh..) so we held hands.. one hug.. one kiss....and off to her bedroom. Licked her for 20 minutes.. she said she came three times.. etcetc... she have great head and took me all in her mouth...then more bonking bonking bonking... eventually left her place at 1.00am. totally shattered and my poor dick calling for a time out. What was neat was she said I was very handsome, had a good body and she thanked me for giving her great sex. Hmmm.....
Anyways I told her I would go there tonight and make love till she screamed.
So... what a night that was. Three in one !!!!
Think tonight will be quieter, but you never know. Phew~~~~~~~

Wolf
06-01-05, 02:44
Blue D,

You are looking for the Skyline Sauna.

Enjoy

Wolf

Roversman 999
06-01-05, 03:29
In my drives through town I noticed several shops that were always doing good business are now locked shut. One on Yu Yuan and several others on or near Beijing road also all shut. Some crackdown going on or they all rotate which days off to shut.. lots more seem to be shut than normal is my conclusion.

A-Todd
06-01-05, 04:11
Blue B => Not sure of you got any reply on PM - so here you go.

The Sauna where the girl uses a rope to hang form a bar in the ceiling
is on Zunyi Road close to Tian Shan Road.

If you ask you can have a line up of 3 girls. Also make sure to specify that you want to have the rope service, not all of the girls are into acrobatics, for the rooms with the bars in the ceiling you have to go up one lever from the main lounge (they also have 'regular' rooms at the lounge level)
You can get it down to 600 RMB

/T

Dragon419
06-01-05, 10:13
It is located at 439 Cao Xi Road near the Xu Jia Hui, which has shopping, dining, etc. Sounds like there should be a lot of action around here. What do you think Sh Captain?

Zarkoff
06-01-05, 16:34
Waves Sauna,

Next to Conch Hotel.

Service offered: HJ, CBJ, FS

Damage: RMB 650 for FS

1) Get into the normal routine of changing room
2) Shower
3) Sauna or Jaguzzi
4) Up stairs VIP room
5) Drinks and order food (free as in package of 650)
6) Manager ask what you like for arrangement
7) Masssage is 90mins in which they will lead you to a massage room with the girl waiting
8) You can go straight into whatever you like HJ, CBJ or FS
9) Standard routine: Massage, rimming, CBJ, HJ and FS
10) Finish off, back to VIP room.
11) Additional of 50 you get 1 hour foot massage
12) Additional of another 50 you get extended foot massage which the same foot massage girl will HJ you off in the next 1 hour.

Anyone know if they take credit cards? I'm off to find this place tomorrow as it sounds like my cup of tea, so to speak. Just looking for a good massage with HJ ending and twice with the foot massage is even better. Pricey but better than Hong Kong I guess!

Levitian
06-02-05, 01:25
The Shanghai International Film Festival will be kicked off 11th of June, I could imagine that there will be a temporary "Cleaner Shanghai" movement for the upcoming weeks, as usual during times of similar events.

Levitian

Blue D
06-02-05, 03:18
The cross road is Wu Zhong Road, I'm not sure the exact street number, could be 1281 Zhong San Xi Lu, right by the ramp to the Zhong San Xi Lu elevated highway. Hai Luo Ping Guan is well known by all taxi drivers. There is no subway to the location anyway. Hope that helps.


Right after I made that posting of Conch Hotel - Waves Sauna, I received lots of PM asking for the address of Conch Hotel.

I am not too sure the full address of that place but it is long Zhong San Xi Lu and in Chinese it is Hai Luo Ping Guan. It is a old hotel so most of the Taxis drivers will know the place.

Waves Sauna is not very new but the place is clean and I been there at least 10 time before. I had different girl every time, I found it is a hit everytime.

Enjoy!

Shaolin Monk
06-02-05, 17:39
Anyone know if they take credit cards? I'm off to find this place tomorrow as it sounds like my cup of tea, so to speak. Just looking for a good massage with HJ ending and twice with the foot massage is even better. Pricey but better than Hong Kong I guess!Zarkoff,

Unfortunately, Waves Sauna takes cash only. I tried to pay by credit card last time and got refused.

Happy hunting.

Shaolin Monk
06-02-05, 18:11
Blue B => Not sure of you got any reply on PM - so here you go.

The Sauna where the girl uses a rope to hang form a bar in the ceiling
is on Zunyi Road close to Tian Shan Road.

If you ask you can have a line up of 3 girls. Also make sure to specify that you want to have the rope service, not all of the girls are into acrobatics, for the rooms with the bars in the ceiling you have to go up one lever from the main lounge (they also have 'regular' rooms at the lounge level)
You can get it down to 600 RMB

/TA Todd,

Is this Yu Ping Hotel, 448 Zun Yi Lu ? or is it some other sauna? Please let me know.

Thanks

Gualtier Malde
06-02-05, 19:43
I received a photo from a semi-pro (she has a day job) that I had a great time with in Shanghai. I described the encounter in a previous post (she was the Asian Cher lookalike). She wants to get together again when I'm back in town, and wants to be my "Shanghai girlfriend". She did take money, and probably would want money next time, though she didn't indicate that when saying she wanted to be my girlfriend.

Would you post such a photo (g-rated) in the gallery? Would you hide her identity and post it? She has not indicated an interest in publicity, nor have I asked.

She seems like a nice girl, for a semi-pro, so I'm inclined not to post. What do you think?

Roversman 999
06-03-05, 01:16
As this place has been gettting some publicity took an afternoon visit yesterday. The normal HJ/BJ/FS was unremarkable tho my provider was quite cute.
There after opted for the one hour RM100 with HJ option ( as described by an earlier reader)
Had the pleasure of encountering Zerkof in the foot massage/relaxing room.
"Zerkof" sorry that you had to listen to my hopelessly inadequate Mandarin but hope it worked out ok.
Both of us had read about the HJ foot massage option here and were both frustrated that it didnt seem to be available especially as we both had very fit foot service providers.
Eventually, with my bad Mandarin I worked out that it was RMB288 for leg and upper leg massage. Headed off with my provider for that.
It was the best part of the day. First she was cute plyful and friendly. Second she acted shy and in the middle of acting shy and saying " dont touch, no no no.. she would show me her breasts, or her panties etc. A real cute tease.
I was fully reclined and with lovely oily hands she would touch everywhere except my dick. with a big smile. She was very funny and a great turn on. Eventually of course we got to buiness.. had her bra off.. panties half way off and she was lovely.
She got me off... .and after resting she started again. She rubbed, tugged and even kissed, all with oil, and all with enthusiam.
I even wanted to go as it was late but she pushed me down, carried on till I finally made it. Three shots in three hours for me is really an effort.
Anyways, realised later that the charge was RMB288 plus 50;; guess the additional 50 was for the extra shot she worked so hard for.
Zerkof, hope your cute provider worked out equally well!
Was a great day and am still tired from the efforts.

Levitian
06-03-05, 03:23
I wouldn't do it, if she did send you the pic. And then, wait what will happen if you meet her the next time.

Levitian

Bob Builder
06-03-05, 03:56
In China, a lot of girlfriends expect to get paid. Some monger try to get around saying that they P4P by buying giifts but it is all money.

If you think that she really is not in it for the money, don't pay her next time and see if she is still willing to see you the time after that.

A-Todd
06-03-05, 04:53
=> Shaolin Monk

Don't think it's the Yu Ping Hotel.
It's hard to miss, they have a huge sign outside that says Sauna in English.

/T



A Todd,

Is this Yu Ping Hotel, 448 Zun Yi Lu ? or is it some other sauna? Please let me know.

Thanks

Albert Punter
06-03-05, 08:54
As you describe the situation, I wouldn't post that picture.

Ace Gallant
06-03-05, 23:55
In China, a lot of girlfriends expect to get paid. Some monger try to get around saying that they P4P by buying giifts but it is all money.

If you think that she really is not in it for the money, don't pay her next time and see if she is still willing to see you the time after that.

The little massage girl that met last week, sort of "hooked on" to me. Had been calling me everynight after work. And when I say yes (on nights that I am alone) she will turn up knocking at my door. Had wonder sex! sleep hugging on tighty to me, wake up in the morning, leave without accepting a single cent!

When I told her that I want to "Introduce" her to my fellows mongers friend, she refused but siad "If you like me to entertain your friend, I will do it for you, but please don't share me around!"

This is the second girl that acted like this since I started coming to Shanghai. I managed to got rid of the first girlfriend by changing my mobile phone and not contract her. Now I am struck with a new one. Any ideals what are they after?

Ace Gallant
06-04-05, 00:17
The little massage girl that met last week, sort of "hooked on" to me. Had been calling me everynight after work. And when I say yes (on nights that I am alone) she will turn up knocking at my door. Had wonder sex! sleep hugging on tighty to me, wake up in the morning, leave without accepting a single cent!

When I told her that I want to "Introduce" her to my fellows mongers friend, she refused but said "If you like me to entertain your friend, I will do it for you, but please don't share me around!"

This is the second girl that acted like this since I started coming to Shanghai. I managed to got rid of the first girlfriend by changing my mobile phone and not contract her. Now I am struck with a new one. Any ideals what are they after?

I went to a restaurant in HongQiao with a bunch of my friend. We got a VIP room. And the waitress that was serving us was my type! Young, tight looking body, electricfying smile and a little tomboyish a little hairy (I heard that hairy girls are very horny = boy was they right!)

Had dinner, and at time when the waitress came in I always had my eyes on her, joked with her. And everytime she will give me the electricfying smile. Finally when I asked for the bill, I also ask for her number and name. She did not answer. Brought me the bill, I paid it. Came back with my change of RMB80 I said to her, she can keep it and she gave me the most electricfying smile of the day! I asked for a recipt = Fa Piao and her name again. She went and return with Fa Piao. I was kind of disappointed that I didn't got her name or number but I was wrong. When I return to my hotel that evening. I found that she had written her name and number on the Receipt! The restuarant was close to my hotel and it was about 10pm (closing time for the restaurant) So I hurriedly call her to verify that it was her number. IT was right! She was waiting for my call! First question was: "Where you are staying?" Told her. "Can I meet you? I like to know you better."

The night got on fine... I got her to to my hotel but did not got laid but had a nice time talking, kissing and touching. She stop me at the point where I was going to undress her. She said: "This is the first time we meet and I am only 16, I am a virgin! If you like me you should meet more often and if it is ok.... we are BF & GF than we can do those things"

We were in touch for the last few days. Did not get to meet her again because of my busy mongering schedule.

Question is : "What are these girls after?" "Really wants to be my girlfriend?"

I found that it is really really easy to get a girlfriend here without paying much money. But it is the part of getting rid of them that is the problem!

WooVictor
06-04-05, 06:11
I was in Shanghai just for one night a couple of weeks ago and stayed at the Vista Holiday Inn on Changshou Road. After checking in in late morning, I went down to the sauna centre on the fifth floor. There was one VIP suite with shower and sauna facilities but it cost 1,800 yuan all in – rather expensive. Otherwise, a full service session in an ordinary massage room would cost about 800 yuan, made up of about 600 yuan of massage service and 200 yuan of shower/sauna fees. The receptionist said their masseuses could go up to guest rooms for the same price. I decided that this could be a back up for me if I couldn’t find anything interesting before going to bed.

After a quick lunch I had a bit of time before I had to see a client. So I went outside for a walk and saw a few BBS along this street two blocks away from the Vista Holiday Inn. Since I had nothing better to do, and I recalled the numerous reports about the straightforward BBS service, I decided to give it a try. I walked in one BBS, and there were four middle-aged women there, all more than 30 years old. I backed out and went next door, where there were five or six girls who seemed rather bored, though a couple seemed to be getting ready to start work.

A young girl, something like 22-24, led me to the back where there were several rooms, all very dark and dirty. She showed me into one room and told me that a basic service would cost 150 yuan. I asked for a blow job but she said she did not do that, but offered to bring me another girl who would do that. I agreed and she left. A minute later a chubby girl, in her late 20s, came in and said she would blow me off for 200 yuan. I protested that this was too expensive, but she said she would give me an excellent service, noting that she was the only one who would do it.

Without further ado she pushed me down on the bed and unzipped my fly. I gave up my weak protest and let her swallowed up my dick without cover. She worked on it real hard and in a few minutes she sorted me out. Although she allowed me to spent myself completely in her mouth she did not swallow but simply spit it out on the floor. I got up and cleaned myself with the tissue paper that she handed me, paid her 200 yuan and got the hell out of there quickly.

It certainly was not a memorable experience, and I don’t think I’ll go back again. After the meeting I again had some spare time because dinner (with a couple of old friends living in Shanghai) was to be quite late. I recalled seeing a sauna place near the Vista at the junction of Wuning Road and Changshou Road, so I went to this Sauna Chamber on the sixth floor (or was it the fifth?) of the Hi-Tech Centre, an office building.

When I got out of the elevator I found myself in a dimly lit lobby. A girl led me to the reception desk and I inquired about the services and facilities. There was no VIP suite, but there were a number of VIP lounges which were private little rooms for two to three people with TV and computers. Otherwise one could sit in the public lounge area. I think the difference is about 100 yuan, and I went for a VIP lounge. It turned out to be very comfortable, nicely and tastefully decorated. I stripped and locked up my stuff, except for my wallet and mobile phone which were put in a sealed plastic bag provided by the waiter. He then led me to the shower area. I had a quick shower and decided against going to the steam and sauna rooms, though the facilities appeared to be of very high quality. In any case the waiter told me to wait in my lounge for a moment, and then led me to the massage room.

As I walked in to the massage room I found a young and pretty girl standing behind the massage bed. For a room with just one standard massage bed and a little cupboard plus a stool, this room was very spacious. It can comfortably accommodate a king sized bed. As I approached the bed she came over to greet me and helped me took off my pajama. She seemed to be in her early 20s (later she told me she was 22), very slim and reasonably tall (about five feet four), and had very smooth and fair skin like ivory. She was wearing a red and black nightgown that showed a bit of her tits and a substantial part of her thighs. She confirmed that I was going to have full service, and told me to get on the bed and lie on my tummy.

She started with a so-so massage just to get me relaxed, as she put it. Then she went out to get two glasses of water, one hot and one cold. She set out all the gadgets that she would need on the stool and at the end of the massage bed, and then stripped herself naked. Immediately, she gave me a “round-the-world” tour with her tongue, holding hot and then cold water in her mouth as she did it. Boy she was fantastic with her tongue – it was the best ‘cat bath” I’ve ever had. After going over my legs and back and shoulders, she stopped briefly and cleaned my anus with a wet towel, probably soaked in alcohol. Then she licked my backdoor thoroughly, a most enjoyable experience. After that she told me to flip over, and did another cat bath before she deep-throated me. This girl was amazing. She was the first Mainland girl who ever managed to completely take me in. I’m really not that long (though perhaps longer than most Chinese – my Beijing girlfriend said even her boyfriend who was six feet tall was shorter), but no one in China had ever taken me in completely. After a while she straddled me, but I stopped her after a few rides, and she was willing to let me do the hard work. Without separating from her I manoeuvred her into the missionary position and slowly screwed her. As our climax built, I stood with one foot on the floor but kept the other on the bed and banged into her furiously until I collapsed.

She then cleaned me up and removed all traces of crime from the massage room before coming back to chat with me, lying on the bed. She told me that her name was Guo Wei and her number was 18. She also claimed to be the hottest girl there because she gave the best service. She was very pretty, thoroughly enjoyed what she was doing and also loved being banged. Highly recommended. Certainly the best girl I’ve had in Shanghai for a long time and one of the best in Mainland China in the past couple of years. As far as I’m concerned, right now only Li Wen of Oriental Palace in Beijing and the girl in Xian’s Caesar’s Palace (name forgotten, see my recent reports) are comparable.

Total damage was almost 1,000 yuan, which is not too bad. Cheaper than in Beijing, though there was no fully equipped VIP suite.

Albert Punter
06-04-05, 16:24
I disagree.
I am experiencing that here girls can be your girlfriend for free, when they like you.

Cebu Local
06-04-05, 22:58
I disagree.
I am experiencing that here girls can be your girlfriend for free, when they like you.
I second the motion as previously posted,I have not given her a single cent and in fact she payed for some of our dates,while We did go to some nice places like M on the Bund,New Heights,Luna etc and while I must have spent maybe 4,000-5,000 RMB on the dates.She also spent about 1,000 RMB of her own money for Teas,snacks,Taxis etc.She is not after the foriegn travel because she has already travelled to the US,Europe and lived in my native Canada for 5 years.Looks about an 8-9,So she cant be desperate for a boyfriend.She was looking for somebody who shared her passion for travel and adventure.Latest update,We might do the Maldives for next Spring Festival after Her trip to Cebu,Boracay and Palawan in October

Cebu Local
06-05-05, 00:48
In China, a lot of girlfriends expect to get paid. Some monger try to get around saying that they P4P by buying giifts but it is all money.

If you think that she really is not in it for the money, don't pay her next time and see if she is still willing to see you the time after that.
A Chinese friend of mine here in Cebu pointed out another option,That if a chinese girl finds a guy who can offer a comfortable life for her,She will try to hook the guy.My life isnt bad,I live in a 5 bedroom house in an exclusive gated community with the usuall maids and drivers.There are the frills of the frequent trips abroad,golf club membership etc.I would like to think that my new friend is under this category

Sweetkisser
06-05-05, 04:06
Hooked up with Bat Man from GZ board.

We checked out a lot of shops around Jing An. Ended up at the clean shop, but they had so many customers we would have to sit there all night. Back in the taxi with CapIota and Bat Man and off to Ming Hang for round 2.

Hit the Carrefour Shop and then over to the apartment shop where the girls are plentiful and cute. We both took a few pics we will post up.

150 per girl, no rush no trouble.


Sh Captain, how do I get in touch with the Apartment girl? any directions?

Ace Gallant
06-05-05, 10:36
A Chinese friend of mine here in Cebu pointed out another option,That if a chinese girl finds a guy who can offer a comfortable life for her,She will try to hook the guy.My life isnt bad,I live in a 5 bedroom house in an exclusive gated community with the usuall maids and drivers.There are the frills of the frequent trips abroad,golf club membership etc.I would like to think that my new friend is under this category

You know what? Maybe what I am experiencing with these free girls are an example of what you guys are talking about...Free girls

But as I said.... it is pretty hard to get rid of them after they get "hooked on to you!"

Come to think of it; I my conversation with the past few girls they seems to want me to bring them and stay in my homeland!

Ace Gallant
06-05-05, 13:58
As this place has been gettting some publicity took an afternoon visit yesterday. The normal HJ/BJ/FS was unremarkable tho my provider was quite cute.
There after opted for the one hour RM100 with HJ option ( as described by an earlier reader)
Had the pleasure of encountering Zerkof in the foot massage/relaxing room.
"Zerkof" sorry that you had to listen to my hopelessly inadequate Mandarin but hope it worked out ok.
Both of us had read about the HJ foot massage option here and were both frustrated that it didnt seem to be available especially as we both had very fit foot service providers.
Eventually, with my bad Mandarin I worked out that it was RMB288 for leg and upper leg massage. Headed off with my provider for that.
It was the best part of the day. First she was cute plyful and friendly. Second she acted shy and in the middle of acting shy and saying " dont touch, no no no.. she would show me her breasts, or her panties etc. A real cute tease.
I was fully reclined and with lovely oily hands she would touch everywhere except my dick. with a big smile. She was very funny and a great turn on. Eventually of course we got to buiness.. had her bra off.. panties half way off and she was lovely.
She got me off... .and after resting she started again. She rubbed, tugged and even kissed, all with oil, and all with enthusiam.
I even wanted to go as it was late but she pushed me down, carried on till I finally made it. Three shots in three hours for me is really an effort.
Anyways, realised later that the charge was RMB288 plus 50;; guess the additional 50 was for the extra shot she worked so hard for.
Zerkof, hope your cute provider worked out equally well!
Was a great day and am still tired from the efforts.

May be I did not let you fellow know. If you pay for the full package 650. You get everything (3 hours mssage with one girl) and if you are VIP, (make sure always get the name of the manager and always asked for him) you get a free 2 hours foot massage with HJ and BJ in the VIP room. All other charges will be Waived, like food, drinks etc etc...

As a VIP the girls are more than willing to give you their cell no. in which you get free meals when they visit you at your hotel!

Ace Gallant
06-05-05, 14:08
A Todd,

Is this Yu Ping Hotel, 448 Zun Yi Lu ? or is it some other sauna? Please let me know.

Thanks

Yu Ping is the Sauna name.

Ace Gallant
06-05-05, 15:10
Bao Long Hotel.

As my previous posting the massage is pretty good.

But if you do not have a room there, the massage room is small and has two couch.

My recommendation is to get a room there Only RMB 280 per night. Call Ext 8288 for a Massage. The only set back between getting a room and going straight to the massage room is that you don't get to view the girl first when you have your own room. But you can always go to the massage room and chose your girl for a "private massage" in you room.

I check into a room at 11pm on one of the day, thought of this ideal and visit the massage room on 4 floor. found 4 girls sitting looking bored. In fact the prettiest one was getting ready to go home because it was a slow night.

I took the pretiest one up to my room, and started the massage. She asked for RMB150 for a 45mins . I told her to cut the crab..... just tell me what the full package including FS cost? She looks surprise. She said RMB450 60 mins.

I took the money gave it to her and started the routine. Strange enough the whole process lasted much more than 60 mins ... more like 1.5 hours. She sorts of orgazm a few times and when I final shot.... she just fell on me (She was riding me) and fell asleep on top of me! I remove her from my body and lay her down on my left... took a shower.... I thought would have got up and gone by the time I finish my shower but I was wrong! She went under the blanket and was sleeping..looks like I got her company for the rest of the night! When to bed and later was awoked by her touching my dick in the morning. Did her another round.... she took shower and before she left...she asked me to look for her if I am coming around next time. She did not even asked for extra for staying overnight!

So looks like another place for me to go in case of a slow night!

Ace Gallant
06-05-05, 15:27
Xian Xia Lu

Decided to check out that road again on one of the nights.

Walk down Xian Xia Lu starting from Shui Cheng Lu. Reached the Foot massage place which I had pick up one of my "girlfriend" the other day. I noticed there is a bar on the same building as the foot massage. Can remember what its name but there is only one Bar on the second floor (stairways) leading up. Saw a few female attendant sitting at the bar counter.

Went in....and unfortunately the cutest one serve me... ask for my order. I ordered my favorite Jim Beam (on the menu) came back saying they don't have it. re-ordered Martini Rocks (also on the menu) came back again saying they are out of it. So I said, why don;t you tell me what you have? went off..saw her asking the bar tender...came back and said we have whisky.... So I ordered Black labels and also said...how about if I order you? She smiles and said you hold on! Came back with my drink and sat down and we talked.... apparantly she don't work there! these girls just make a living out of getting commission from guest orders!

Taking that in consideration, I knew that it must be just their secondary source of income. So I ask if she would like to go back to hotel with me? And started pulling out a couple of hundred RMB.... she said: 10 of those red ones, I go back with you! I said over night? She reply depends on how nice you are to me!

Damage: RMB1000
Service : Good
Skills: Fair
Service hours: Over night. (I am sure I can get at 500 for 3 hours service)
Number of girls... She said on a Friday evening..there are at least 20 of them.

Sweetkisser
06-05-05, 17:22
I disagree.
I am experiencing that here girls can be your girlfriend for free, when they like you.

I agree with Albert Punter. I have several girlfriends in Shanghai that don't cost me anything except inexpensive dinner or coffee. One of whom I have known her for 4 years now. I met her at Pu Jin, and since then she has gotten married but nothing had changed. We still hook up whenever both of our schedule permit. Most of time directly to a Motel 168 for 3-6 hour of steamy sex. She never ask for anything in terms of money. I am nice and gental to her and we are both happy to maintain this relationship.

Sweetkisser
06-05-05, 18:37
Ended up going for a foot massage where the most fun was ocassionally rubbing my foot on the breast as if by accident of my 17 year old foot masseuse.
So, where will I go tonight.....????

Hi Roversman99:

Where is this foot massage place that you visited? any directions will be greatly apprediated.

I have been searching for a great Foot massage/ HJ place. The same service as in FS Sauna places but without wasting time and money in the Sauna. I love the technique of slow stroke with oil for hours and not rushing to get you off.

Sweetkisser

Slaser
06-05-05, 21:03
I visited Shanghai last week after orientation in this Forum for the first time. Visited the B.A.T.S. bar in Shangri-la on Monday. 5-8 Girls waiting already and in less than 5 minutes started up a friendly conversation. The prices varied from 2000-1000RMb and in the negotiating process some girls quit and passed over to another girl(??) Don't know why they do that. I almost have the impression that negotiation spil for them the BF-Gf feeling. After 3 girls I left the bar. Music was very loud, difficult to understand eachother.

On Friday I went exploring the Bund and was called in bar by young girl standing at the door of a new Bar, Subaru bar on no 7, Yanan East road, close to the Nanpu river and the Bund, parallel to Nanjing Road. I was the only guest but I had some photoshooting fun with 2 waitressen (18/20) and the manager (22) A very pretty slim girl. The manager Hu lian explained that this was a new bar where business men met students and they often took them to the Hotel. Tip gentlemen!!, I did not yet read anything about this place in the forum.

After a while I asked if she liked to come to my Hotel, she said OK, but I have my period. But I can arrange some girls for you. 2 ungly looking girls showed up which I refused. Then she offered to call another girl with the same figure as she had. I agreed and after 15 min a young girl came in, still heavy breathing from the hurry to get there. She was not pretty, but slim, young and a great figure. My type! So I agreed. She did not know what to ask finally asked 1000 RMB, but agreed to 800RMB. I did not want to trade too much, having the BATS experience. I paid the bill, tipped the manager 60 RMB and went to the Hotel. My Gf, let's call her Martina thanked me and gave me very hot kissed (tonguework) to start with. When we finaly got a taxi she came close to me and explored all the hair on my arms and brest (Normal according to me..) and chatted with the taxidriver. Took her to my room (5 star Hotel) and she was really excited about all the luxury and the scenery outside.

Started kissing and caressing and slowly undressing. She had a great young tight figure, she said she was 22 but I estimate max. 18. Had sex with only 2 boys before!!. She did a great BJ, although in the beginning did not like it. I could tease and penetrate with my finger in her backdoor and pussy at the same time. She really got excited and hot. Ther were no bounderies and she got hotter and hotter.

Also allowed photo's, but was a bit shy. After 45min I did not fuck her in her beautiful tight pussy, because neither I nor she had condoms. I first had to explain to her what that was, by the way.

I came over her belly and we had a long cosy afterparty. She was really hot and after the shower and financials could not stop kissing and hugging. I literally had to kick her out the room.

I will never forget this unique GF experience!! Fantastic. On her request I even promised to email her the pictures. Check out that bar, and be careful with my "Martina", please, she was so "green" and innocent but very enthousiastic.

I will try to post some photo's.

Roversman 999
06-06-05, 01:19
Sweetkisser, the one I visited was somewhere near Yu Yuan Lu but cant exactly tell you where. Its really a trial and error thing. Have a look in foot massage places and review.. if they have a private area.. thats where you want to be, if its just a big open, room then it foot massage for all the grandmas of that area.

On the subject of grlfriends, my opinion is its realy easy to find them. Find them on yahoo, icq, even Thats Shanghai or the street. All are generally willing to put out after a first date. Therafter, how you treat them is how they treat you. Ive had some clingy ones, some that I had to chase, even had a cute one that used me the same way I used her.. ie when she was done with me, she never called, or made any contact with me.
Easy to lose the clingy ones, especially when you make up the all important " business trip" excuse and dont answer the phone etc.
They come in all shapes and sizes but generally if you treat them well, they will be god to you. I have three nice ones here, all secretaries, that Im staying friendly with, so that when I return to Shanghai on future business trips, my bed will be so very warm. Its all a matter of style....

Levitian
06-06-05, 01:57
FYI:
Went to visit the Hanzhong Village last friday. Seems the place is temporarily shut down. All bbs were closed, the spinners stopped. I do assume it is part of the "Cleaner Shanghai" movement related to the Shanghai International Film Festival.
Levitian

AsiaTraveler2
06-06-05, 02:04
I noticed almost every post has referenced conversations with the girls and/or the management of each of these massage places. Is english fairly common with the girls / management or are all of you skilled in the native language in Shanghai? Just wanted to get that clarified.

Thanks!
AT2

Levitian
06-06-05, 02:24
AT2,

Well, you shouldn't have wide expectations regarding language skills of those bbs management or the providers. Some of the girls do speak a little, only a few words. On the other hand, I don't think there is much language skills required ... the girls have their means and ways to make themselves understood, and so does the management.

Levitian

Member #1604
06-06-05, 09:58
Why all the factories are shut down? Unfair.

To Slashir,

Please upload your pictures ASAP.

Cap Iota
06-06-05, 10:07
i concur....the clean shop on wuding road is closed and so are all the shops around them.

SH cap and I will prob head to carrefour factory and the apartment shops across the railroads, anybody checked there to see if they're open?

cap iota

Ace Gallant
06-06-05, 16:08
New bars in Tongren Lu:

On Thursday evening I decided to take a rackee down the strip of new bars along Tong Ren Lu. I usually hang out at Malone's but decided to look for new blood. It was 9pm and there were not many people. Malone's would be bussling with people by this time.

Finally settle into one named Blue Angel, Although the Chinese reads Blue Frog. There are bar girls - waitresses hanging around. But strange thing is I am Chinese spoke perfect Chinese, wandered into the bar, none of the girls even bother to look at me. I noticed when a White man come in the girls to swamped and zero in on him. Not until I order my second drink and spoke with my perfect English! I can see some of the girls heads started to turn and look! Next thing is one girl came by and started the routine question of "Where are you from?" I also started my routine answer of I am an ABC - American Born Chinese. And I next thing I knew is I was swamped with girls on my right, girls on my left, girl in front, girls behind.

I got to find out that they play this game of dice. They started "introducing" me to the dice in which I pretend that I don;t know how to play. Here is their trick: They will play the dice game with you and say that if you lose you buy them drinks. If they lose they buy you drink. But the best part is, you lose, you buy, you drink, They lose they buy you drink. Somehow, they want you to get drunk! So you lose always. I also found out later that the girls get a commission for the drinks you buy. The objective is simple. They get you to buy them as many drinks as possible and they make commission out of that.

Well... I am not stupid either. Three Bourbon and four Tequilas later, I satrted my skills and win them in the games. never fail any... they started "Buying" drinks in which I forced them to down them by saying if you don;t drink it ... I am leaving. After a while they started changing rules of the games, or even started changing games. Sorry man..... I aren't rookie!

After a while they realized they can't win me and perhaps too many of their credits had been used by buying drinks (They don't have to pay for those drink anyways...) They stopped and one of them ask me straight. Where are you staying? What you want to do later?

My straight answer: XXX Hotel, I want to fuck you!

Her straight reply RMB3000.

My straight reply "What? you think I am freshies? 800 take it or leave it! It was like 1am already so she said......Ok ...but you pay for my taxi home.

I ended up with her overnight at 800 + 100 taxi.

Not too bad but I guess next time round I get to chose some even better ones.

Shaolin Monk
06-06-05, 18:25
Sh Captain, how do I get in touch with the Apartment girl? any directions?Sweetkisser,

I have a list of apartment girls, but you need to be able to read and speak mandarin. PM me if interested and I will share. I have not tried the list as yet so please report back if you try any of them.

Cap Iota
06-06-05, 22:05
ok....no BBS and my favorite DVD shops are closing. Shanghai is no fun anymore.

cap iota

Gualtier Malde
06-07-05, 01:23
As you describe the situation, I wouldn't post that picture.I agree, I shouldn't post her pic. But damn, she keeps emailing me more and hotter photos - her latest could literally be a cover photo for a magazine like Maxim - not nude, but damn she leaves very little to the imagination, and she is so fucking cute!

Oh well, only a month before I see her again. No more private messages asking for her phone number please, I'm gonna pretend she's my very own... :)

David

Levitian
06-07-05, 01:50
Cap,

You are around long enough to know that this is more or less a seasonal thing. Wait until the Film Festival is over, and all those "foreign visitors" are gone, again.

Regarding BBS: interesting, it seems that the authorities know too well what is going on behind those tinted windows ....:-).


Levitian

Roversman 999
06-07-05, 09:25
Decided had some free time and wanted to play. Not enough time for a full sauna thrill ( last one took me 4 hours!) but wanted more than just BBS. OK, headed for the Bao Long hotel ( maybe wrong spelling ) in Hami Lu. Been there before and its a nice oily massage with extras in the next room.
Found the same girl as before, ( the one with inverted nipples!).gave ok massage after copious massaging of the balls I took the hint and we went next door. Had her laid down, and was seriously giving her pussy some excitement, and she was licking me when....loud voices from downstairs.. she has a look of shock and horror and immediately starts putting on her clothes and talking urgently to me... no idea what she was saying but I had ben caught in a raid in Manila a few weeks before and no wish to see it again. ut pants on, shirt, socks and shoes.. briefs in pocket and went downstairs. Three guys all arguing..i just passsed them by and walked off.. ( they then broke off their argument to ask me for money.. i threw a 50 at them and walked off. )
So there I am in Hami Lu, briefs in pocket, complete with hard on...hmmm OK, head to Hongsong Lu. Check out three places where Im a regular but no one i wanted. ..then saw my fave cutie in long red dress. Only 19, 31-25-30 so very slim. Anyways, we went in back and closed the door.. managed to get the dress off and had her doing the BBS thing in bra and panties. We even kissed a lot.. proper GK type kisses. One thing led to another and Anyways.. somewhere along the way I came..put my briefs on this time, and headed back to work. They didnt even notice I had left at work.
And for the fans, none of the 12 BBS on Hongsong Lu are closed.. all are definately open and ready for business.

Member #4038
06-07-05, 11:20
Thanks Roversman for all the good posts and sharing on some of the interesting places in Shanghai. Reading through your posts is quite a routine for me. Be carefuly man, just walk out provided you assume something wrong happens.


Decided had some free time and wanted to play. Not enough time for a full sauna thrill (last one took me 4 hours!) but wanted more than just BBS. OK, headed for the Bao Long hotel (maybe wrong spelling ) in Hami Lu. Been there before and its a nice oily massage with extras in the next room.

Found the same girl as before, ( the one with inverted nipples!).gave ok massage after copious massaging of the balls I took the hint and we went next door. Had her laid down, and was seriously giving her pussy some excitement, and she was licking me when....loud voices from downstairs.. she has a look of shock and horror and immediately starts putting on her clothes and talking urgently to me... no idea what she was saying but I had ben caught in a raid in Manila a few weeks before and no wish to see it again. ut pants on, shirt, socks and shoes.. briefs in pocket and went downstairs. Three guys all arguing..i just passsed them by and walked off.. ( they then broke off their argument to ask me for money. I threw a 50 at them and walked off.)

So there I am in Hami Lu, briefs in pocket, complete with hard on. Hmmm OK, head to Hongsong Lu. Check out three places where Im a regular but no one I wanted. Then saw my fave cutie in long red dress. Only 19, 31-25-30 so very slim. Anyways, we went in back and closed the door.. managed to get the dress off and had her doing the BBS thing in bra and panties. We even kissed a lot.. proper GK type kisses. One thing led to another and Anyways.. somewhere along the way I came..put my briefs on this time, and headed back to work. They didnt even notice I had left at work.
And for the fans, none of the 12 BBS on Hongsong Lu are closed. All are definately open and ready for business.

Zarkoff
06-07-05, 17:56
As this place has been gettting some publicity took an afternoon visit yesterday. The normal HJ/BJ/FS was unremarkable tho my provider was quite cute.
There after opted for the one hour RM100 with HJ option ( as described by an earlier reader)
Had the pleasure of encountering Zerkof in the foot massage/relaxing room.
"Zerkof" sorry that you had to listen to my hopelessly inadequate Mandarin but hope it worked out ok.
Both of us had read about the HJ foot massage option here and were both frustrated that it didnt seem to be available especially as we both had very fit foot service providers.
Eventually, with my bad Mandarin I worked out that it was RMB288 for leg and upper leg massage. Headed off with my provider for that.
It was the best part of the day. First she was cute plyful and friendly. Second she acted shy and in the middle of acting shy and saying " dont touch, no no no.. she would show me her breasts, or her panties etc. A real cute tease.
I was fully reclined and with lovely oily hands she would touch everywhere except my dick. with a big smile. She was very funny and a great turn on. Eventually of course we got to buiness.. had her bra off.. panties half way off and she was lovely.
She got me off... .and after resting she started again. She rubbed, tugged and even kissed, all with oil, and all with enthusiam.
I even wanted to go as it was late but she pushed me down, carried on till I finally made it. Three shots in three hours for me is really an effort.
Anyways, realised later that the charge was RMB288 plus 50;; guess the additional 50 was for the extra shot she worked so hard for.
Zerkof, hope your cute provider worked out equally well!
Was a great day and am still tired from the efforts.

First, thanks for all the help Roversman! Your Mandarin is much better then my "pointy talky" Mandarin, so I was greatfull for your company and your help.

For the visitor, if you taxi to the Conch Hotel be advised the English name doesn't register with the taxi drivers. Nor the concierge at your hotel, either. Recommend you Google "Conch Hotel" and "Shanghai" and you'll get the phone number and address. Your concierge can call and get the Chinese name.

If you decide to take the subway and walk, or walk for any reason, be warned. The address is 1281 Zhongshan Rd. Its a little goofy here, gang... if you're on the 1400 block on one side of the road that only means you're between 1000-1800 block on the other side of the road. I put on several miles on the wrong side of the road never once finding the 1200 block. TO answer the obvious questions, the Conch Hotel is in a complex labeled Conch Group. Its tucked away in the interior of a building and can't be seen from the street. There is a sign in English pointing to the interior labeled "hotel". The address is on the east side of Zhongshan Rd between Hongqiao Rd and Xinhua Rd.

The sauna is directly across from the Conch hotel, and has no sign above it. The signage is in the interior parking lot and the only English writing says its the "Surf Sauna". Close enough for me, and it turns out to be the right place.

I guess Dark cleared up the cost thing, but this is what I understand. If you want a "massage", its 650 RMB and you sort of get to chose the girl. The "massage" is pretty lame as far as massages go - my experience in HK is you get a real massage then a pretty good HJ, BJ, or FS. I always opt for the HJ but hey, that's just me. My lady sort of ran her hands along and then did a lot of wintergreen oil stuff on my back, stripped, and spread the oil with her tits. Interesting, but like I said, if you think you're getting a massage out of the deal, it ain't gonna happen.

Afterwards, I asked for the foot treatment, ah la Dark's reports. As Roversman said, that didn't seem like it was going to happen as it wasn't on the menu. We each walked by the private rooms but were told "not available". I still wanted the foot massage, and got a very cute 19 yo for a very memorable foot massage in the public open area. Wow, did she do a job on the feet! After much Mandarin proding by the Roverster, the next two parts (they divide the "foot" massage into foot, upper legs, and Mr. Johnson) suddenly became available for us. Back came my foot massage teen and off we went to the private room. At first it was 118 RMB for the foot alone then an additional 286 RMB for the other two parts. Then it became 118 RMB for each part. My political science math told me the latter was a better deal so that is what I got.

The foot treatment, etc. was well worth the cost. I had a super time and had a lot of fun with my little girl! Such a small lady and such powerful hands... wow!

I was told later by the management, VIP and Dark's report not withstanding, that if you have the whole business (body massage plus the three part foot massage) its 650 RMB plus 354 RMB. If you only come in for the three part foot treatment, its 400+ RMB (the exact number escapes me). There really wasn't any upselling on their part, just misunderstanding on my part. But they are more than happy to get all the numbers straight beforehand and even stopped a couple of times to make sure I understood the costs.

The sauna part of the sauna is very standard to HK and was remarkably clean and well run. I enjoyed the foot treatment a lot and will return in the not too distant future. It was great to run into someone from the forum, and I appreciated his help very much. Best of luck to you in your future travels!

Jefft1
06-08-05, 13:05
I have the latest info about a dozen of shanghai girls, including tel #, email address plus some photos.

Please post your request on this forum with your emailI will be in SH in June/05. Can you send me your list? my [Email Address deleted by Admin].

Thanks

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Ace Gallant
06-08-05, 15:44
First, thanks for all the help Roversman! Your Mandarin is much better then my "pointy talky" Mandarin, so I was greatfull for your company and your help.

For the visitor, if you taxi to the Conch Hotel be advised the English name doesn't register with the taxi drivers. Nor the concierge at your hotel, either. Recommend you Google "Conch Hotel" and "Shanghai" and you'll get the phone number and address. Your concierge can call and get the Chinese name.

If you decide to take the subway and walk, or walk for any reason, be warned. The address is 1281 Zhongshan Rd. Its a little goofy here, gang... if you're on the 1400 block on one side of the road that only means you're between 1000-1800 block on the other side of the road. I put on several miles on the wrong side of the road never once finding the 1200 block. TO answer the obvious questions, the Conch Hotel is in a complex labeled Conch Group. Its tucked away in the interior of a building and can't be seen from the street. There is a sign in English pointing to the interior labeled "hotel". The address is on the east side of Zhongshan Rd between Hongqiao Rd and Xinhua Rd.

The sauna is directly across from the Conch hotel, and has no sign above it. The signage is in the interior parking lot and the only English writing says its the "Surf Sauna". Close enough for me, and it turns out to be the right place.

I guess Dark cleared up the cost thing, but this is what I understand. If you want a "massage", its 650 RMB and you sort of get to chose the girl. The "massage" is pretty lame as far as massages go - my experience in HK is you get a real massage then a pretty good HJ, BJ, or FS. I always opt for the HJ but hey, that's just me. My lady sort of ran her hands along and then did a lot of wintergreen oil stuff on my back, stripped, and spread the oil with her tits. Interesting, but like I said, if you think you're getting a massage out of the deal, it ain't gonna happen.

Afterwards, I asked for the foot treatment, ah la Dark's reports. As Roversman said, that didn't seem like it was going to happen as it wasn't on the menu. We each walked by the private rooms but were told "not available". I still wanted the foot massage, and got a very cute 19 yo for a very memorable foot massage in the public open area. Wow, did she do a job on the feet! After much Mandarin proding by the Roverster, the next two parts (they divide the "foot" massage into foot, upper legs, and Mr. Johnson) suddenly became available for us. Back came my foot massage teen and off we went to the private room. At first it was 118 RMB for the foot alone then an additional 286 RMB for the other two parts. Then it became 118 RMB for each part. My political science math told me the latter was a better deal so that is what I got.

The foot treatment, etc. was well worth the cost. I had a super time and had a lot of fun with my little girl! Such a small lady and such powerful hands... wow!

I was told later by the management, VIP and Dark's report not withstanding, that if you have the whole business (body massage plus the three part foot massage) its 650 RMB plus 354 RMB. If you only come in for the three part foot treatment, its 400+ RMB (the exact number escapes me). There really wasn't any upselling on their part, just misunderstanding on my part. But they are more than happy to get all the numbers straight beforehand and even stopped a couple of times to make sure I understood the costs.

The sauna part of the sauna is very standard to HK and was remarkably clean and well run. I enjoyed the foot treatment a lot and will return in the not too distant future. It was great to run into someone from the forum, and I appreciated his help very much. Best of luck to you in your future travels!

You know what Zarkoff? You are lucky that they even let you get a massage. I was told by the manager that they usually "throw" new comers without any accompanying familiar guest, at the public place and get a normal foot massage.

The fact that you get a lot of free stuff if were there a a number of times before and each time I bring a new friend. Try going there more often. Look for Manager Lim, tell him you are a friend of Boss Sim or the Half Japanese guy Tanaka. I bet you get a different answers and different service.

Only non-VIP get massage in the big public room with the big tv screen. Insist on the VIP room! things gets more exciting in there. Go with a friend. And you likely to get a VIP room. Tips to changing room boys and the Counter girls. don't have to be much 10 rmb is good. And you will see different treatment for you the next time. They will address you by your name for sure.

Those are how all the saunas operate here. In fact those are how all saunas in Asia works.

By the way, all the tips that you give get put into a pool and everyone shares the pool at the end of the month. So don't think that you like the counter girl, you tip her you will get her mobile number.

Ace Gallant
06-08-05, 16:47
For the benefits of fellow mongers.

Surf or Wave Sauna is called "Hai Lang" in Chinese and it has a big sign on top of the building. You can't miss it except it is written in Chinese of course!

Conch Hotel is "Hai Luo Ping Guang"

Wu Zhong Lu and Zhong San Xi Lu. Entance near the Ramp up to "Hao Jia"

DJ Yello
06-08-05, 18:30
Cao Xi Lu/Nan Dan Lu (in Xu Jia Hui)

there are 2 oil massage places its the one closest to Cao Xi Lu.

#11 and #30 are super cuties and give HJ with the oil massage. Pretty good deal 100RMB per hr for the massage and I always threw in 100RMB for the tip. Relaxing and a good deal.

Dong Zu An Bang Lu/Zhen Ning Lu
was reviewed here a couple of times before. Would recommend #03 (about 5'1 with big perfect knockers, so hot and awesome service) and #05(cute, will do anal, and if you go early you can get 2 pops, obviously sweet service)

Wu Yi Lu/Yan An Lu
a pretty good sauna where they tie themselves with ropes and do all kinds of crazy stuff. Make sure to ask for it or sometimes they'll give you a chick who doesn't do that.

Thats all I can think of now, since having a consistant thing is better than the trial and mostly error of some of these girls. If anyone tries these report back and let everyone know how it was.

Member #4038
06-09-05, 10:26
Thanks DJ yello for the posts and the contribution to the forum. By looking at the description here, believe it might be worth trying these in the next couple of days plus the weekend. Will try and report. To prevent going to thr wrong places ( in case several places and cannot recognize the ones you mention), some more detailed address is much appreciated for us to locate the exact.

Again, thanks for the report.


Cao Xi Lu/Nan Dan Lu (in Xu Jia Hui)

there are 2 oil massage places its the one closest to Cao Xi Lu.

#11 and #30 are super cuties and give HJ with the oil massage. Pretty good deal 100RMB per hr for the massage and I always threw in 100RMB for the tip. Relaxing and a good deal.

Dong Zu An Bang Lu/Zhen Ning Lu
was reviewed here a couple of times before. Would recommend #03 (about 5'1 with big perfect knockers, so hot and awesome service) and #05(cute, will do anal, and if you go early you can get 2 pops, obviously sweet service)

Wu Yi Lu/Yan An Lu
a pretty good sauna where they tie themselves with ropes and do all kinds of crazy stuff. Make sure to ask for it or sometimes they'll give you a chick who doesn't do that.

Thats all I can think of now, since having a consistant thing is better than the trial and mostly error of some of these girls. If anyone tries these report back and let everyone know how it was.

Roversman 999
06-09-05, 10:52
Feeling lazy at work so went to Waves/surf Sauna for the long foot massage version... this is RMB442 but for this you get two hours of a cutie. They gave me the 19 year old provider that I saw with Zarkoff, a fellow monger, last week. Perfect attitude and strong hands. Always had a smile.
Managed to inspire myself to shoot the airplane twice in half an hour which is rare, but this was a girl who takes great pride in her work and does it with a smile.Is it worth it... I dont know but its clean, neat and girls are really good.
And so my journey ends. Arrived in Shanghai and took great pleasure in bedding as many freebie young ladies as I could when I first stayed in HK Plaza. I counted 12 but many were repeats. Then moved onto the BBS scene in Hongquio courtesy of my bike. And must have been to 100's of them.
Checked out the Tea House on numerous ocassions. Took a break while I had my prostate removed ( Guys.. remember to have your PSA checked annually.. it can save your life !!) Back to more BBS with a weakened member... hit the Viagra trail and then discovered the joys of car sex.. or shall I say Buick sex..had many steamy nights and discovered some great dark places in the streets of Shanghai.
Then finished with a few sauna visits. I think Ive done as much as one man can do here.
I wish you guys well and have enjoyed being part of your scene, albeit quietly and living vicariously through this forum. I was pleased that many of you have enjoyed my posts...Keep on nailing those girls...!!!!!!!!!!!

Malone
06-09-05, 13:06
Does anybody know if there is some special service available at the new Dream Land Sauna Health Club in Pudong. This place is under the Science and Technology Museum and the access is from the Metro Station. The place looks great. I would appreciate if someone could share some experiences.

Thanks.

Lubertdas
06-09-05, 17:46
Gentlemen,

I'll be visiting Shanghai next weekend on business, and I'm wondering if any of my fellow mongers in Shanghai would like to get together to do a little 'exploring'.

I'm interested in hitting the Waves Sauna for the 2-hour service including foot massage, and it appears that the only shot I have at VIP service is to accompany a 'regular' there.

Because I have virtually no Mandarin language skills, any help would be appreciated!

I also might be interested in paying a visit to the 'factory', or some other BBS or KTV's.

Please send me a Private Message if you're interested in getting together!

I'm not sure what hotel I'll be in, but once I find out, I'll post it.

Also, I can guarantee that any action I see in Shanghai, I'll be sure to post a report on!

I'll be going to Qingdao and Rizhao later that week... I've already been on the Qingdao board, but I've seen nothing about Rizhao. If you have info, please PM me.

Thanks,

LubertDas

Player88
06-09-05, 21:07
bon voyage roversman. you have been an inspiration to many of us. we hope that we can carry on your legacy of bike sex, buick sex and sex for sex's sake sex. happy hunting in whatever place you end up next! cheers!

Dog Day
06-10-05, 01:20
It was a horny Thursday night so went to my village playground. All the shops were closed last night.
Guys, be careful with your BBS escapades. You would not want to get caught with your pants down!
Good news is I am travelling out of China for a week, so hopefully they will be open when i return

Roversman99. Keep on humpin!

Cebu Local
06-12-05, 11:21
Bon Voyage Rover
Good luck wherever the winds take you,Thanks for the tips and Best Wishes

OldAsiaHand
06-12-05, 14:24
Roversman99,

You have been a legend, an inspiration and a great source of invaluable information for all of us on this thread. You will be missed. Do keep in touch!

All the best,

OAH

Jumbo88
06-13-05, 04:14
Gentlemen,

During this crackdown period, I went to another Hong Mei Road Sauna on the South side of the Yan An Rd. expressway.

Name: Da Tang Yu Jing (大唐雨景)
Location: No. 3125 Hong Mei Road,
Phone: 54224988
Facility: Excellent, one of the best in Shanghai, carpeted, new and clean! Everything is under a huge basement area.
Price: 700RMB includes everything including the "Red Rope" (which can be used as a Love Swing)

Comments:

It's a new place opened about 6 months ago. Wanted to check it out for a while since it's walking distance to my apartment. It's under MingHang District jurisdiction but it's closer border to ChangNing District, hence lack of vigilance from Minghang and strong backround by the owner. It's Safe!!! They have about 15 - 20 girls. Besides the FS, they have very good accupresure (shiatsu) massagers. It costs RMB100 for one hour after FS. Highly recommended.

Ups: Clean, New and comfortable.
Downs: about RMB50 more than other locations mentioned ont he board.

Happy hunting!

Ace Gallant
06-13-05, 04:28
Gentlemen,

During this crackdown period, I went to another Hong Mei Road Sauna on the South side of the Yan An Rd. expressway.

Name: Da Tang Yu Jing (大唐雨景)
Location: No. 3125 Hong Mei Road,
Phone: 54224988
Facility: Excellent, one of the best in Shanghai, carpeted, new and clean! Everything is under a huge basement area.
Price: 700RMB includes everything including the "Red Rope" (which can be used as a Love Swing)

Comments:

It's a new place opened about 6 months ago. Wanted to check it out for a while since it's walking distance to my apartment. It's under MingHang District jurisdiction but it's closer border to ChangNing District, hence lack of vigilance from Minghang and strong backround by the owner. It's Safe!!! They have about 15 - 20 girls. Besides the FS, they have very good accupresure (shiatsu) massagers. It costs RMB100 for one hour after FS. Highly recommended.

Ups: Clean, New and comfortable.
Downs: about RMB50 more than other locations mentioned ont he board.

Happy hunting!

Sounds like another place to explore in my next visit to Shanghai! Noted down on my PDA and have GPS pick up the map to the place....!

Will report in once I QA the place. And of course any other special services not written on their menu will be on my report.

Cheers!

Albert Punter
06-13-05, 21:52
I would like to report about my activity in searching through websites' personals in the past six months.
As I do not speak Mandarin, I only browsed in
a) http://shanghai.asiaxpat.com/ (former That'sShanghai) > best
b) http://www.weinchina.com/ (ICQinChina) > interesting
c) http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/ > little interesting
and only more recently in
d) http://www.smartshanghai.com/ > little interesting

I did not reply when Mr Right or LT or serious relationship was looked for.
Only I replied to those ads where girls were looking for fun or for money (reading between the lines) or for sex (yes, some ads were explicit).
I sent out a total of 88 replies:
a) 56
b) 20
c) 7
d) 5

In some cases I had to send my picture to get girl's picture. Which was fine as I could also select my dates.
Depending the type of ad, I had more direct approach or I had played cool with some correspondence by e-mail just to be more friends.
In total, I was able to date 22 girls, but none of those looking for sex (this really amazes me).

Following was final score:
- in 6 cases I hit as they were semi-pro, looking for some money or some presents (however only in 5 cases I had paid, in one case girl did not take anything as she liked me as a person);
- in 6 cases I was able to sleep with them first or second date;
- in 10 cases nothing materialized: no chemistry or maybe they were just looking for boyfriend or for someone to go out with (but without finishing night in bed).

All in all I think it was worthwhile, as only time required was about 20-30 minutes per day to read ads and to reply, and then to keep contact.
I was able to have a lot of fun fun and to increase my experience about Chinese girls.
Also, I was able to sleep with some beautiful hot girls for nothing. Believe me, this add satisfaction to satisfaction.
In general I was pleased about sex willingness and performance of my partners.

Now I want to relax, while continuing to date my very hot freebies.
I will probably change side and put an add myself, to see how many girls reply and which type (and possibly to prepare another nice report for you).

Mock A Bee
06-14-05, 02:48
Albert Punter

Great report on finding freebies through the personals!

I look forward to the next one.

MAB

Plane Guy
06-14-05, 10:07
Roversman99,

Just saw that you are gone. Indeed you have been, an inspiration and a great source of invaluable information for all of us and it has been much appreicated. You will be missed.

All the best,

Plane guy

Plane Guy
06-14-05, 10:08
Roversman99,

Just saw that you are gone. Indeed you have been, an inspiration and a great source of invaluable information for all of us, (* over 200 post)and it has been much appreicated. You will be missed.

All the best,

Plane guy

Dog Day
06-14-05, 10:18
If you have the time "freebies through ads" is just so easy, specially if you are a westerner...with even a little spare money for dinner, coffee or drinks.

For Asians like me, there is a slightly a lower success rate since some girls are really after blond haired/blue eyed guys. They feel they have a chance of hooking a passport if the guy falls for her specially if she is "good".

I had a great "hunting" success every season before i met a 24 year old girl (also through ads) who I lived with for 9 months. I fell for her as she was just so nice (inside and out), but I am married so we just have to part ways.
I probably was juggling 4 freebies at the same time until that time i decided to settle down with this girl. I actually snared 3 virgins during this hunting period.

Now, I actually feel having 150 and 200 FS girls is more convenient.
There is the thrill of "hunting" and snaring this naive girls but after my last experience I felt I got snared too.

The ad section is the best way to know some "friends" , "sex friends", etc. There are a lot of girls in shanghai willing to meet new friends in this city.
I still answer some ads and tease some girls once in a while. I am quite busy now so i really have no time to wine,dine and bed.

Adviice. If you can not get a date to bed by the second date your chances gets slimmer on this game.

Good Luck!

Cebu Local
06-14-05, 13:20
[QUOTE=Dog Day]If you have the time "freebies through ads" is just so easy, specially if you are a westerner...with even a little spare money for dinner, coffee or drinks.

For Asians like me, there is a slightly a lower success rate since some girls are really after blond haired/blue eyed guys. They feel they have a chance of hooking a passport if the guy falls for her specially if she is "good"

It depends,My Filipino Canadian Friend working in Shanghai says that He is treated poorly until they find out that He is Canadian and His Passport is Canadian Blue rather then Philippine Green.Then the attitude visibly changes,He is one of the Managers of Luna

Ace Gallant
06-14-05, 15:14
[QUOTE=Dog Day]If you have the time "freebies through ads" is just so easy, specially if you are a westerner...with even a little spare money for dinner, coffee or drinks.

For Asians like me, there is a slightly a lower success rate since some girls are really after blond haired/blue eyed guys. They feel they have a chance of hooking a passport if the guy falls for her specially if she is "good"

It depends,My Filipino Canadian Friend working in Shanghai says that He is treated poorly until they find out that He is Canadian and His Passport is Canadian Blue rather then Philippine Green.Then the attitude visibly changes,He is one of the Managers of Luna

Like what Dog Day said: If they see that you are a better chance for to secure a passport (a way to get out of China) they will be after you.

On the reverse I disagree that if you are Blond/blue eyes you get better chance of getting laid. In my experience so far, those girls prefer overseas Chinese as their first priroty, why? Have a chance of securing a passport, been able to speak their language and most important they thinks that oversea chinese that travels to china are majority rich businessman. A lot of these girls don't even mind if you are married. They just want to passport and the money. Been mistress? Who cares? These are what some of my "Girl Friends" told me.

Also, I found that I can get a Non-virgin to bed everytime on first date. But for Virgins.... not always so but there had been some successes.

Cheers!

Jefft1
06-16-05, 14:58
I'll be visiting Shanghai by end of June on business for 2 weeks, and I'm wondering if any of my fellow mongers in Shanghai would like to get together to do a little 'exploring'.

Thanks

Comrade 2255
06-17-05, 06:02
City Sauna @ 9F Golden Bell Plaza - I would advise you avoid this one, despite glowing reviews elsewhere.

I picked both of the "gents" services from their menu board at the main desk, which amounted to around 300rmb.

After a shower and jacuzzi dip (spectacular view from the latter, I must say) I was dried down while on a table by the "towel boy", which was efficient although I hope that was the first and last time a non-medical guy ever lifts my testicles.

Then to the private room. No choice was provided me in regards to the lady. The lighting was very dim. The lady was reasonably attractive though certainly no glamour. (a killer body, however)

After a reasonably pleasant massage, she asked me something in Chinese which I assumed was for the "extra" service. I agreed, after which she performed a slow but somewhat perfunctory HJ. She would not do oral, and obviously no FS.

After about 20 minutes of pagoda polishing she seemed a little frustrated I hadn't popped, so she moved into a 69 position to offer her jade gate for manual and oral exploration. After another 10 minutes of waxing Mr Wang (I tend to take a while you may have gathered) she said something (presumably "time's up") and got up. What the hell? No finish!

OK I thought, no big deal, it's only 300rmb. So imagine my surprise to find a bill for 1010rmb at the desk! No more Shanghai saunas for this bunny.

I have a few more (and thankfully more successful) reports to post when I get time.

Dog Day
06-17-05, 06:11
Darkman2. You hit it right on the spot. ABC's or Chinese returnees with foreign passports (specially the marrying age, even married but available) they also have the pick of the lot! I had an ABC friend who was out with a new girl each week, and they were stunners (not karaoke girls).

Comrade 2255
06-18-05, 02:17
As previously described by a comrade here, this internally well-lit BBS at the corner of WeiHai Lu and Yanan Lu (opposite a gas station, and a short walk east from the expat bar area at Tongren Lu) is where a "9" purportedly was employed. As it has a set of traffic lights practically outside and a bus stop nearby, there were a quite a few eyes following this cauacasion comrade, despite the late-ish hour. Those of nervous disposition may want to give this one a miss.

There were 4 very plain looking women and one quite cute inside, all looking bored. Pointing to the latter I asked "OK?" while pointing skywards, to which she led me upstairs. Once up there I found the remaining 4 were coming up too. Huh? Cheer squad? Security? Well try as I might I simply could not get rid of the extra baggage. It seemed they either worked as a team or not at all. Possibly the fact I speak no Chinese, and that I tried to keep the situation amicable by smiling constantly meant I was a soft target and only encouraged them to dig harder at my wallet.

As it was though it was an interesting but expensive experience at 500rmb for the five of them; two sitting at the front where I was allowed manual access to their female things, two at my midriff manually working my engine room components, and the fifth, well now I think about it I have no idea what she was up to. Operations Supervisor perhaps? The frequent mention of some Chinese phrase from one of the pagoda-polishers, which I guess was the equivalent of "please expedite your ejaculation and get the fuck out of here" was somewhat distracting, as was the constant chatter amongst them. Nevertheless, a satisfying conclusion was ultimately reached, unlike the sauna visited the night before.

Comrade 2255
06-19-05, 02:43
At the south-east part of the intersection of Changle Lu and Xiangyang Lu are the famous counterfeit market stalls, where fake rolex watches, raybans, name-brand clothing, etc are sold (remember, the shopkeeper's original price is often 2 or 3 times what you can knock them down to).

If you cross over onto the west side of Xiangyang and head north you will come to its end, where it meets Julu Lu. A few shops back on the left (next to a restaurant from memory) you would have passed a BBS. This one has about 4 or 5 ladies, all plain, who will tinkle with your dinkle upstairs should any of them appeal to you.

However, if you skip this one and cross over Julu Lu to the north side of it, just to your left is another BBS, again with 4 or 5 ladies. One of them is a very cute thing, early 20's, with nice large lips (both sets, as it turns out). No BJ or FS from my experience.

If you are looking for a nice and legit massage, cross over onto the south side of Julu Lu and walk east a block or two. There you will find Magpie Massage, where 130rmb will get you a 1 hour traditional and skilled Chinese massage from an attractive lady. No extras offered during my 2 visits. (anyone wiser on this one?)

While on legit massages, if you are staying at the Ocean hotel on Daming Dong (Daming east) Lu, walk out of your hotel, cross the main road onto the south side and walk west. You will soon come across a massage establishment. Only 88 rmb for an excellent and energetic 2 hour Thai massage, albeit by plain looking young ladies. No extra services offered.

SW's

East of the Julu/Xiangyang Lu areas described above, at the corner of Changle Lu and Maoming Lu (not far from the Garden hotel) at around 1030pm, I was propositioned by a well-dressed, tall-ish and reasonably attractive SW who wanted to "practice English with me". As I had just been siphoned off at Julu Lu I declined. A midnight stroll around the very southern part of Maoming Lu, where a motley collection of expat bars reside, also had a contingent of single ladies outside the bars giving come-hither smiles, presumably SW's, and ranging considerably in quality.

Gyager22
06-19-05, 09:43
I finally found the ZY Pub. Interesting place, seems pretty quiet on both a Thursday and Saturday night, but like most people have posted, seems to be friendly and well services and yes a bit pricey. But hey, I met two ladies that provided quite an interesting time, first a beer, some warm hugs and kissing, the offer of a BBBJ which in the beginning was very enjoyable, but both ladies progressed to a FS offer which in both cases was very enjoyable. One lady in particular was quite into it and enjoying every bit of the encounter. I must say it was an enjoyable experience, and from the sounds coming from the adjoining space. I must say it was enjoyable for others as well.

Happy hunting

Cap Iota
06-19-05, 13:41
The Clean Shop on Wuding Road just raised their price to 300rmb to all foreigners. even though i'm not affected by this, i'm still going to make a conscious effort to not go in....

cap iota

Cap Iota
06-19-05, 17:54
address: 1715 Wuzhong road.

150rmb....

cap iota

Tooparik
06-20-05, 02:38
Having heard much about the ZY Bar I decided to investigate. I apologize for the lameness factor but perhaps there's some small kernel of valuable information to someone out there.

I started out by taking a taxi to Beijing Lu and Jiaozho Lu intersection, which is actually one block south of the proper intersection of Beijing and Xinzha Lu but the concierge and I decided that the taxi driver had a better probability of getting me there than missing the "real" intersection through misunderstanding; after all, Beijing Lu is a major thoroughfare. The cab ride cost 11 RMB plus a small tip, and would have been under 20 RMB no matter where you started from in Puxi. For my concierge-written instructions in Chinese to the Beijing/Jiaozho intersection see JPG1. On the 2005 Shanghai Tourist Map find sector F5; see JPG2 for a scan of that general area.

I immediately encountered a foolish problem: I did not know which way was north! The weather was low and rainy and I resolved the issue by walking the wrong way first, discovering the error, reversing course and finding north by trial and error. Next time I'll carry a small compass as part of my kit.

Walking one block north to Xianzha Lu and just before the intersection you may notice a BBS with rotating barber sign (also holding the pictures of several enticing women) and several women lounging inside. I didn't check it out further. Advancing another 10 meters I turned the corner to the right (walking now east) and 30 meters down on the right hand (south) side of the street was the ZY bar. A lighted yellow sign about 1 meter tall and 1.5 meters wide clearly identifies "ZY". Stepping up to the door and looking inside it appears to have a small but otherwise conventional bar inside. All in all, very easy to find.

I entered and could see 4 or 5 girls lounging in the back. One girl approached me with typical SW enthusiasm and I asked for a beer. She spoke no English (except the word beer) and I spoke no Chinese beyond "ne hao", so after getting through that minor awkwardness but with lots of smiles and a few giggles I took my beer and sat to wait the arrival of the mamasan. Which didn't take long.

Mamasan first asked if we were "friends" -- and she was all smilely but insistent, as though she would not let me go further until I identified myself as such. I got the feeling that she thought I might be part of the Morals Police or something. So I nodded and said, "Yes, friends! Friends! Good friend!" and that seemed to be enough for her and she clapped her hands and repeated, "Yes, friend! Good friend!" This was all it took to reach a complete agreement. The girl next to me was patting my back and gestured that she would show me to the back room. This was a doorway right behind the last bar stool, which we stepped up a little to cross the threshold and immediately turned left to walk a narrow aisle. It was very dark and my eyes had not adjusted but it appeared that were 4 cubicles, each with a small table and a fat, comfortable padded chair.

By Shanghai bar standards the place was "clean" -- decrepit, old, broken, and recycled but someone had scrubbed it all as well as could be hoped. I've certainly been in places that smelled worse. If it had been Chicago, for instance, I doubt that I would have lingered to even finish my beer, but Shanghai? They have different standards and that's okay by me.

The mamasan was quick to make sure I knew, in English, "one beer, one girl, 350 RMB -- okay?" I nodded over my shoulder and kept walking back to the cubicle. The girl lead me by the hand and helped me find the chair in the dark. Sitting down, she left and returned a minute later with a small dish, a glass of [warm] water, and some some baby-wipes. She helped me pull my pants down, indicated I should lie back and relax and started a slow blowjob. She took her time. She did not just suck but put on a small show. Periodic shaft licking, ball licking, deepthroating and of course the necessary sucking and up-and-down to get me off. It was .. not bad. Her technique was practiced and good. I came, she "held on" for an extra :20 seconds, and then she silently spit into her disk, filled her mouth with warm water, and went down on me again to clean me. I lost track of what happened for a few seconds -- and isn't it always like that? -- but she left, returned, cuddled for about :03 to :05 minutes before I felt like standing, and that's all that I have to say about that.

If you're in Shanghai I'd consider this a nice quickie for a BBBJCIM, like hitting a fast food joint when you're starving and haven't much time. Convenient, maybe necessary, but not your everyday meal.

The girls were pleasant but probably 5s or 6s, and their dress was not especially sexy. Were I their manager I'd change that, but it's acceptable as is.

Hope this helps. By the way, I'm in my 60s now and probably a lot older than most of you so if I missed any details essential to the younger crowd be sure to point out these errors and omissions and I'll try to get it straight in a later post.

Asian Travels
06-20-05, 03:55
I had one experience in a Pudong massage parlor near the Marriott COuryard-it was pure massage (with a nice girl though).

Any one have reccomendations for Pudong?

How about in 5 star hotel bars?

Thanks

Ace Gallant
06-20-05, 04:02
I finally found the ZY Pub. Interesting place, seems pretty quiet on both a Thursday and Saturday night, but like most people have posted, seems to be friendly and well services and yes a bit pricey. But hey, I met two ladies that provided quite an interesting time, first a beer, some warm hugs and kissing, the offer of a BBBJ which in the beginning was very enjoyable, but both ladies progressed to a FS offer which in both cases was very enjoyable. One lady in particular was quite into it and enjoying every bit of the encounter. I must say it was an enjoyable experience, and from the sounds coming from the adjoining space. I must say it was enjoyable for others as well.

Happy hunting

Gyager, What is this ZY Pub? it is another BBS or is it a Pub? If it is a Pub where is it? I don't remember seeing any posting on this??

Appreciate if you 'Enligthen' us

Thanks

Cap Iota
06-20-05, 05:00
on xinzha road close to jiaozhou road. look for white christmas lights....

cap iota

Ace Gallant
06-20-05, 10:06
on xinzha road close to jiaozhou road. look for white christmas lights....

cap iota

Thanks Cap,

But what it is? Pub or BBS?

Cheers!
DK

@sh
06-20-05, 11:27
seems like more sauna's are offering fs. before most sauna's that i had been to were not FS. i visited bilihu and FS seemed standard. i spoke to one girl a couple weeks back and she said that business for sauna's is not as good as before, too much competition, so i guess that explains it. bilihu is one of the nicer decorated places with good service. total is 680. bilihu is on hongqiao road near gubei road. it's at the end of the street where "the door" (a restaurant/bar) is located.

Albert Punter
06-20-05, 12:32
ZY Pub is at 1771 of Xin Zha Lu, almost at junction with Xikang Lu or Jiao Zhu Lu (my memory is not serving me well this time).
It is not a BBS, however it is a BBBJ place.
As pointed out by Tooparik seems a pub and that is reason for name.

Question to Gyager 22: were you only offered FS or did you really get it ?
As far as I know, FS is not available on premises, but girls can provide in your place.

Suzhou
06-20-05, 23:44
I went over to Alice sauna last thursday around 12:30 midnight, found that it was closed, ended up went back to sleep with a hardon. Yesterday manage to hit Skyline and have a nice chat with the lady was inform that Alice had been raid since last week ago during the film festival. Anyone can confirm this?If it is true, gosh. Miss all those mirrow that were on the side n top.Any reccomendation for other place with mirrow?

Levitian
06-21-05, 10:23
... is up and running again. Made a short stop-over on my way home there last evening. Had a nice encounter with a tall, blondish girl from Jilin.

Levitian

Sweetkisser
06-21-05, 12:59
I finally found the ZY Pub. Interesting place, seems pretty quiet on both a Thursday and Saturday night, but like most people have posted, seems to be friendly and well services and yes a bit pricey. But hey, I met two ladies that provided quite an interesting time, first a beer, some warm hugs and kissing, the offer of a BBBJ which in the beginning was very enjoyable, but both ladies progressed to a FS offer which in both cases was very enjoyable. One lady in particular was quite into it and enjoying every bit of the encounter. I must say it was an enjoyable experience, and from the sounds coming from the adjoining space. I must say it was enjoyable for others as well.

Happy hunting

Kissing?? did they rinse their mouth with mouthwash before kissing or is it still kind of sticky. I don't think I can pull myself to kiss the girl after they have done houndred of BBBJCIM. It's just me.

Sweetkisser
06-21-05, 13:14
I went to Golden Palace KTV with my friends last Thursday. Can't believe that they have topless girl now. As most of you know that the KTV girl is usually 300 RMB to sit and chat with you. This place now have what they call "models" and "Special Service girl" this two type girl cost 500 RMB instead of the usual 300. The Models are better looking and are tall and skinny. Of course the "Special Service Girls" are not 9 or 10 but more 7 or 8. What happen is after they come into the room you can ask them to take off their top and be topless. All they have on is a G-string. This is cool because you can touch them and play with their tits. The bast part is you can share amont friends...of course only if your friends don't mind. This might be expensive and not as open as in Macao but sure is something different in Shanghai.

Sweetkisser

Albert Punter
06-21-05, 16:11
From all my experiences in this place I do not recall girls wanted to kiss my lips (this is something I wouldn't have done).

They do kiss and lick your nipples and your body, besides your little friend.

TheNoop
06-24-05, 04:06
Gents,
Thenoop is coming to town. I arrive Sat afternoon. I will probably hit Malones if anyone wants to get a beer and check out the action PM me or just come on by. I will be at the bar with a cold one! I'm the shortish blond guy with a goatee.
Thenoop

Ace Gallant
06-25-05, 06:24
Field Report:

I was in Shanghai for a day, the usual business trip.

My local staff recommended me to a KTV so I thought I gave it a try.

As per Normal, KTV, you pay 150RMB for the room, if you order a bottle of Chivas 12 years old at 500RMB the room is free. The mama san will bring in a selection of girls. You select the girls you like. If you like to take out girls you have to tell mama san so she will arrange for girls that are "Takeable". Drinks for the girls is at 80RMB each.

I saw a pair of girls and immediately I knew their were twins! They are cute. But this twins are the "Non-takeable" catergory. I chose the twin and have a talk first. (Hoping that I can talk them into going out). Knowing the system in Shanghai KTV. the girls will make commission from the drink you buy them. How can a glass of Orange juice be 80RMB? While talking to them I told them directly..... "Don't buy too many drinks.... or the KTV will earn from me and you only get a certain percentage of the 80RMB, why not I just give you directly the 80RMB later? I can give you more than just 80RMB...." The twin understanded and each only order one drink. Sweet talking to them I told them...are you sure you two do not want to go out with me? Than they started talking in Shanghainese (In which they did not know I understood). They asked me.... "I will take us both?" And reminded me that I will have to wait till 3am their closing time because they are just for "drinking girls not going out girls" and anything will be private arrangement.

The club girls take out price is 1500RMB over night service. 1100RMB for 2 hours service. and if you just wants to drink with them without take out is 300RMB. For this pair of twins..... I spoke to them on private basis; I waited for closing time and waited nearby on the main street at about 3:20am and caught a taxi back to my hotel. I paid only 2000RMB for both of them the next morining. It turn out that both of them are still tight and only 19 years old. Told me that they only agreed to me is because I will bring both of them out together. And they like me.....blah blah blah.... asked if I have wife or girlfriend and both wanted to marry me! I told them "How can I have 2 wives?" They said...why not...they are twins sisters! They only left the hotel when I was checking out at 12pm.

The damage for the night was:

Drinks for girls: 160RMB
Chivas bottle to keep: 500RMB
Twins over night: 2000RMB
Taxi: 25RMB
Tips for waiter and waitress: 400RMB (One really good looking Waitress gave her 200RMB as tips.... asked for her cell phone number. She wrote it down with her name on the receipt she got for me!)

Total damage: 3085RMB

Catch for the day: a pair of 19 year old twins and
next visit: the 18 year old Waitress!

Name: Ling Yang Hai Tan
Address : 58 Dapu Road, 3rd Floor.

Enjoy fellas!

Lustforthrust
06-27-05, 03:57
Boy is Pudong busy during the Summer! Long queues at the Immigration (but were moving faster than at JFK/SFO). An APEC BTC for HK$427 is certainly worth it - under 5 minutes at the APEC Lane). http://www.tdctrade.com/vod/apec.htm

Spent Thursday night at the Regal International. Hengshan Lu had a fair shake of SWs. Starting a 1,000 kuai LT but negotiable to 300 for ST. Most of them looked early 20s & kinda plump. 11pm curfew for visitors in enforced at most Hotels.

Zarkoff
06-27-05, 07:57
You know what Zarkoff? You are lucky that they even let you get a massage. I was told by the manager that they usually "throw" new comers without any accompanying familiar guest, at the public place and get a normal foot massage.

The fact that you get a lot of free stuff if were there a a number of times before and each time I bring a new friend. Try going there more often. Look for Manager Lim, tell him you are a friend of Boss Sim or the Half Japanese guy Tanaka. I bet you get a different answers and different service.

Only non-VIP get massage in the big public room with the big tv screen. Insist on the VIP room! things gets more exciting in there. Go with a friend. And you likely to get a VIP room. Tips to changing room boys and the Counter girls. don't have to be much 10 rmb is good. And you will see different treatment for you the next time. They will address you by your name for sure.

Those are how all the saunas operate here. In fact those are how all saunas in Asia works.

By the way, all the tips that you give get put into a pool and everyone shares the pool at the end of the month. So don't think that you like the counter girl, you tip her you will get her mobile number.

Thanks for the info. I'm just now getting back online and reading posts. I will definitely give it a try as I'll be in the area next month, around the middle of the month for a couple of days. I agree with tipping as it seems to work the same way in Hong Kong. Sadly, the folks I hang out with don't do saunas! I know, I'm hanging with the wrong people! Again, thanks.

Calico
06-28-05, 06:54
Sweetkisser,

Can you share with me the address or tel no. of this KTV. I am travelling to Shanghai in July.

Many thanks in advance

Regards,

Calico

Pig8King8
06-30-05, 12:26
Sweetkisser,

Can you share with me the address or tel no. of this KTV. I am travelling to Shanghai in July.

Many thanks in advance

Regards,

CalicoHello, first post.

This KTV is rather nice. Girls on 4th floor wear "bikinis" with diaphanous "sarongs" tied across their waists. When I went last time I was surprised that some of the girls didn't have any bikini bottoms under those sarongs (semi-transparent) and you can see their privates.

Like the other poster said, the tips are 500, and takeout can be as much as 2500 (but that can be negotiated to 2000).

It's located at #1148 Chang Shou Rd, at the intersection of Wan Hang Du Lu in Cao Jia Du. The Chinese name is Jin1 Se4 Da4 Di4. I think there's a rule against posting phone numbers here.

Oh, and the mama that I know there is better looking than any of the girls. Her name is Li3 Me3i Ling2. I don't think she speaks English. If you can speak Chinese, PM me for her mobile.

Pig8King8

Dog Day
07-01-05, 01:26
Be careful guys. Saw an actual crackdown last night, with police vans and cars raiding BBS at the village. The interesting part of this was once they left, the shops opened up again. Did not do a "take-out", I can live with out my cravings for a few days. Be safe than sorry.

Big Boss Man
07-01-05, 03:30
i found the skyline sauna and the jinlin bar (subaru) both reported on in earlier posts. nothing too adventurous on my first day.

enjoyed my experience at the skyline. the young girl was very sweet and seemed to enjoy the sex. when the masseusses are rubbing up and down your body is that for your enjoyment or theirs?

i am staying at the westin so the jinlin bar is close. the address is no.7 yanan east road. the bargirls are all 19 and 20 years old. i did not take out because i did not feel that i could walk across the westin lobby with these girls. the girls were a little young for me and the maturity was not there. i would not recommend but the first poster found a real gem there. how lucky do you feel? yemv.

has anyone tried the ktv directly across the street from the westin? it is on the corner of henan zhong lu and guang dong lu.

also, has any tried the royal silver spring sauna? it looks to be about the closest to the westin except for the places on najing dong lu.

also there is a bbs just west of henan zhong lu on guang dong lu. i did not try but there must be 15 women in there.

i was approached by several women on nanjing dong lu. i brushed them off due to the advice on this board.

pet peeve. why are the shanghaiese who speak the best english unemployed? they keep wanting to come up to me and tell their story. i am not that interested in sad stories.

El Rond
07-01-05, 05:17
P8K8, Sweetkisser,

I know it's probably more fun and less expensive visiting KTVs in groups, but any idea what kind of room charges apply if you go alone, especially for the higher end ones like the one you mentioned?

I'm curious about the KTV scene, and would like to try it some day, with or without company.

Thanks,

ER

Black Jack
07-01-05, 06:54
Hi all,

After an extended absence, I'm back in Shanghai now for good.
Glad to see the board is live and well.
Briefly skimmed thru the past couple months and I see lots of new good information, lots of new Sauna's and KTV's revealed.

Also noticed lots of valuable postings from Cap, Dogday, Darkman, etc. Keep up the good work guys!

Meanwhile some of the older vetrans who've helped me in tons of ways when I first moved here 2 years ago, have left us (Rovers and Blankie).

Well, better get back to looking thru some of the previous pages and try some of these places out!

Final thing: Anyone uncover any apt. girls? Jman still around? He gave me a couple before, but then I had to leave Sh without tryin them. Thanks!

Happy Hunting
BJ

Comrade 2255
07-01-05, 09:20
pet peeve. why are the shanghaiese who speak the best english unemployed? they keep wanting to come up to me and tell their story. i am not that interested in sad stories.
well-dressed middle aged guy with glasses? i got his "story" on 3 occasions, twice on nanjing lu and once at yu yuan, over a 4 week period. i'm sure the guy is either a con-man or just lazy.

Jefft1
07-01-05, 14:59
The cross road is Wu Zhong Road, I'm not sure the exact street number, could be 1281 Zhong San Xi Lu, right by the ramp to the Zhong San Xi Lu elevated highway. Hai Luo Ping Guan is well known by all taxi drivers. There is no subway to the location anyway. Hope that helps.Hello guys,

I managed to get it in chinese; Now it should be a no brainer. Happy hunting

Conch - Hai Luo Hotel:
Address: No. 1281, Rd. Zhong Shan Xi
Tel: 62703232
Chinese Name: 海螺宾馆, 中山西路1281号.
Follow up: Went there today. Price has gone up to 690 for 3 hours. Asked for manager Lim as suggested, got attention right away. I simply said Jim from US want to say hi (well of course there is no Jim). It was 1:30 Pm ( a little early?) he shown me 3 girls. I picked the cutest one (an 8.5). The service was excellent. She gave me her phone number afterward, told me to call for a date yahoooooo... I probably will ask her for a night out. Only small probelm is I speak very little Chinese, she does not speak English (still love it). There was a young guy named BOB (manager assistant?), tip 50 to ensure a pleasant come back. Told him, my friends are coming... and will ask for him. Mention Jeff from USA send you - hope he remember my name :). Happy hunting.

Shaolin Monk
07-01-05, 18:08
Hi all,

After an extended absence, I'm back in Shanghai now for good.
Glad to see the board is live and well.
Briefly skimmed thru the past couple months and I see lots of new good information, lots of new Sauna's and KTV's revealed.

Also noticed lots of valuable postings from Cap, Dogday, Darkman, etc. Keep up the good work guys!

Meanwhile some of the older vetrans who've helped me in tons of ways when I first moved here 2 years ago, have left us (Rovers and Blankie).

Well, better get back to looking thru some of the previous pages and try some of these places out!

Final thing: Anyone uncover any apt. girls? Jman still around? He gave me a couple before, but then I had to leave Sh without tryin them. Thanks!

Happy Hunting
BJ


BJ

Have a list of apartment girls, I you want the list, just PM me. However, previous individuals whom I have PM the list to have not reported back on their findings. If this continues to be the case I will not be granting access to the list. This is suppose to be a sharing forum. Once I have most of the details and reports, I intend to post and report back. So only PM me if you are willing to share and report back !

Disch
07-01-05, 19:57
El Rond,

Most of the time, there are minimum room charges.

A room that fits 6-7 is about 680
A room that fits 8-10 is about 880
A room that fits 10+ is about 1080

But, this is the minimum charge that you will have to pay. So, if you and your friends go and drink/eat more than this amount, then you pay the greater amount.

Food is really expensive, but some comes with the room which counts toward the total charge.

So, if you go alone, get the small room and count on what you order. It can come out to 680 if you do not order more than that amount.

Now, when you get there just pick a lot of babes to drink and dance with you. Have fun.

Let me know if you have any more questions.


P8K8, Sweetkisser,

I know it's probably more fun and less expensive visiting KTVs in groups, but any idea what kind of room charges apply if you go alone, especially for the higher end ones like the one you mentioned?

I'm curious about the KTV scene, and would like to try it some day, with or without company.

Thanks,

ER

Black Jack
07-02-05, 05:10
Shaolin,

I'll PM you for the list. And I definitely agree that people should be posting reports about APT girls. As from what I read before, it is a big hit or miss thing. Better to post, so that no one wastes time with a miss.

I'll post something once I try one of them out.

BJ

Jman90024
07-02-05, 08:51
Final thing: Anyone uncover any apt. girls? Jman still around? He gave me a couple before, but then I had to leave Sh without tryin them. Thanks!


Just got back in Shanghai and spent a night with a lovely apt girls. QQ Chat (http://chat.qq.com) is a good place to find them and the QQ instant message is allowing viewing of pictures. The attached are some sample pictures from the QQ chat rooms but haven't gotten around to verify them.

I have sent out the list from Sina to a couple people but only few has posted their discoveries.

Big Boss Man
07-03-05, 03:14
I visited the sauna in Hengshan Hotel. The sauna is older. The massage table was squeeky. The masseuse was cute but very inexperienced in both massage and sex. She basically just laid with me for the last 30 minutes and would not even allow two shots on goal. It was also a covered BJ. More expensive than the other places at 1000 yuan. I cannot give it my recommendation. I would avoid.

After my massage I was hoping to spend Happy Hour at Bourbon Street or something similar. All of these places seem dead at this time of day. Is there a good Happy hour where you might meet some company?

That night, I went Mao Ming Nan Lu. From 9 to 11:30, I spent to talking to drink girls at Judys Too and the Chicago Club. The girl at Judys Too did not go home with guys but she said she would set me up with someone who did. The problem was I thought she was the best looking in the place. The Chicago Club girl would go but she said it was too early. I was not overly impressed with the talent I saw on Mao Ming.

There are some streetwalkers that gather at the corner of Mao Ming Nan Lu and Yonglia Lu. They were actually kind of cute.

I am definitely having difficulty getting into the rhythm of Shanghai. It is a difficult nut to crack.

Big Boss Man
07-03-05, 03:52
I woke up determined to have a better day. There are definitely guys in this hotel walking around with model quality babes. How do I get that Shanghai experience?

In the afternoon I went to the No. 3125 Hong Mei Road sauna. I experienced my first ropes massage. I guess now I can say I have lived. This is an excellent place and find. I highly recommend.

After the sauna I headed to Malones about 6:00 PM. Again no action at Happy Hour. The Tex-Mex food was good however.

I decided that it was time to open up the wallet and go to a KTV. I asked the concierge for a recommendation. He sent me clear across town to Wusong Lu to I believe a KTV called Paradise. The first thing that happens is that they are going to charge me 1500 for the room. I immediately backed out because I knew that the going rate was 600 according to the board. Believe me, everyone is on the take here in Shanghai. My story gets worse.

I have the taxi drop me off on Nang Jing Lu. I listen to a tout and am first taken to a Coffee Bar near the Sofitel. I decided i did kike the looks of the women there so I leave. Next they show me an Italian named place on Jiujang Lu near the corner of Sichuan Long Lu. It is a dive but they have some quality women in the place. The bad news is that it is total rip off. I sit with two high quality looking women and of course first they order Lady's drinks which are 80 yuan. The next round they order whiskey which is 180 yuan. I am thinking of course that I am paying 80. I quickly run up a bar tab of 2500 yuan in 30 minutes. Now if the girl would have gone with me I would have thought ok because I was out to find a looker. Of course, you know the story. She did not leave the building with me. It seems like every trip I get ripped off once. Last year I was ripped off in Santiago Chile.

Given that it is brutally hot and I cannot really walk around like I want, I am thinking of leaving for Pattaya early which is my next stop.

Kukuact
07-03-05, 05:03
Apologies for my ignorance, but what are apt girls? Are they FL's or more like a BBS type establishment? Would mind trying out if some of you senior members can point me towards the right directions.

Thanks

Starchild2012
07-03-05, 07:53
Jeff,

Last time in shanghai i had used a mobile communication device which automatically translates chinese into english and vice-versa loud and clear, just speak to the device and it will translates it to you in chinese and vice versa. Its just like a mobile phone with translation attached, you can get more info on the site http://www.ectaco.com/?refid=2155

It should be easier now, the price tag is around 400 USD, thats steap, but they have a one month money back gaurentee, who would want to stay more than a month, i just brought the device, used it for 20 days and returned it promptly, i got my money back minus 20 USD shipping and handling charges, :)

I know its morally incorrect, but hey whats harm in testing the device in our trip, i had already brought the device once from them but i made the mistake of gifting it my gf, which i'm now trying to contact, but she is no were to be seen :(

El Rond
07-03-05, 17:23
Thanks, but I'm still wondering what happens if I go alone? I pay for a 680 room?

I went to the bar at Jin Bi Hui Huang at Huai Hai once, and walked through the labyrinth of KTV rooms, with lots of gorgeous gals scampering about. I'm just wandering how much it will cost me to sit down with one of these gals.

Will visit again and ask the next time I go Shanghai, which is - tomorrow!

ER


El Rond,

Most of the time, there are minimum room charges.

A room that fits 6-7 is about 680
A room that fits 8-10 is about 880
A room that fits 10+ is about 1080

But, this is the minimum charge that you will have to pay. So, if you and your friends go and drink/eat more than this amount, then you pay the greater amount.

Food is really expensive, but some comes with the room which counts toward the total charge.

So, if you go alone, get the small room and count on what you order. It can come out to 680 if you do not order more than that amount.

Now, when you get there just pick a lot of babes to drink and dance with you. Have fun.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Gualtier Malde
07-03-05, 19:30
Jeff,

Last time in shanghai i had used a mobile communication device which automatically translates chinese into english and vice-versa loud and clear, just speak to the device and it will translates it to you in chinese and vice versa. Its just like a mobile phone with translation attached, you can get more info on the site http://www.ectaco.com/?refid=2155

It should be easier now, the price tag is around 400 USD, thats steap, but they have a one month money back gaurentee, who would want to stay more than a month, i just brought the device, used it for 20 days and returned it promptly, i got my money back minus 20 USD shipping and handling charges, :)

I know its morally incorrect, but hey whats harm in testing the device in our trip, i had already brought the device once from them but i made the mistake of gifting it my gf, which i'm now trying to contact, but she is no were to be seen :(


Born, does it really go in both directions? If my catch of the day speaks Mandarin into it, does it really translate and speak back in English? From the web page, the specs say it goes English->Chinese, but it doesn't say anything about going the other way.

Also, when you speak into it are you limited to one of the 4200 phrases, or will it translate any words you speak? What if what you say isn't in the machine's dictionary (like, what if you say "I'd like to fuck you on camera?" :-)

Do you have to set it in a situational mode first, like "Restaurant mode" or Street ***** mode? :-)

Have you had your chinese speaker speak into it and gotten english back? How speaker independent was it for chinese speakers?

I'm working on my chinese, but am a long way from comfortable communication. This device might be a crutch, but would be expedient in certain situations.

Thanks!

Gualtier Malde
07-03-05, 19:35
I woke up determined to have a better day. There are definitely guys in this hotel walking around with model quality babes. How do I get that Shanghai experience?Big Boss, you might be going out too early. So far I have not been disappointed going to a bar like Malones, or even my own hotel's bar around 9pm. I think things don't really start to cook until then. Similarly, I found the SWs showing up after dark, not while the business people were going to and from work.

After 9pm, if you haven't spotted a candidate within 20 minutes you might just move to another bar.

Good luck!

Farmboy5
07-04-05, 04:17
Just returned to Shanghai after long absence.

Last night I walked aroung the XuJiaHui area and decided to try the sauna in the Sports hotel on NanDan Lu.

FS was available but that was the only good thing. Other than that , it was uninspired, expensive sex in mediocre and sparse surroundings.

Do not recommend.

For what it's worth, I walked around the Hengshan Lu area Friday night between 10:30 and 12:00. In the two blocks between the Hengshan Hotel and the major bar area, I was approached by SW several times. On the way back, two offered to give me "f*cky/s*cky" in the park for 100rmb. I figured it was an invitation to be robbed so did not go.

At the same time, stopped in Bourbon Street for a beer. Had a great band and the semi-pro and pro talent was thick, ranging from 4-8 on my scale. Was tired so only looked around.

Pig8King8
07-04-05, 10:12
Thanks, but I'm still wondering what happens if I go alone? I pay for a 680 room?Yes, you pay 680 for the room, plus 300 for the girl, plus 300 for the mama-san, plus 200 for the DJ, plus 100 for the server.

So the total will be 1580, even before you take her out. You can do it, but definitely recommend you go with friends.

SHtraveller
07-04-05, 15:32
Jeff,

Last time in shanghai i had used a mobile communication device which automatically translates chinese into english and vice-versa loud and clear, just speak to the device and it will translates it to you in chinese and vice versa. Its just like a mobile phone with translation attached, you can get more info on the site http://www.ectaco.com/?refid=2155

It should be easier now, the price tag is around 400 USD, thats steap, but they have a one month money back gaurentee, who would want to stay more than a month, i just brought the device, used it for 20 days and returned it promptly, i got my money back minus 20 USD shipping and handling charges, :)

I know its morally incorrect, but hey whats harm in testing the device in our trip, i had already brought the device once from them but i made the mistake of gifting it my gf, which i'm now trying to contact, but she is no were to be seen :(

I bought this device myself also and just to make it clear the ectaco devices do NOT work so well. First of all it will just go in 1 direction (English-Chinese) and the phrases are very, very, very limited. For mongering it is the total misfit. the so called speachguard is the worst. Also the delivery time... (1 months and many phone calls later) In my case the device arrived even broken. The redelivery took quite a while and I needed to deposit again.
Ectaco did not send out the parcel completely and until now (1year later) still some optional parts are missing. Also for the device itself I cannot recommend this article at all.
I never received any invoice for this device. So for business users: be warned!

Vicboy
07-04-05, 17:04
You can get similar translation devices in China easily - in many electronics stores and department stores. It's called electronic dictionary. Prices range from US$20 to $100. I can't tell you the usefullness, but I looked at few. They seem good.

Member #3071
07-04-05, 19:00
It is my first time in Shanghai and I just arrived today. After office hours I was just too awake to stay in my hotel and gave the tip below a chance.

Due to my bad personal notes I found the places immediatly but thought I was wrong: I have been looking for house number 11 and 30. But lucky me I took the right place.

Didn't ask for a specific girl as being new and only speaking English. Got #8 and the massage was wonderful. Extended it and then got asked if I would like more. I payed an extra 500 to the girl directly as that's what she asked for. Therefor I was not that lucky as DJ Yello - but unexperienced.

Anyhow the service was very good even so much more expensive. Maybe I try again and then I know better.

One more question: Do the girls usually also get naked?


Cao Xi Lu/Nan Dan Lu (in Xu Jia Hui)

there are 2 oil massage places its the one closest to Cao Xi Lu.

#11 and #30 are super cuties and give HJ with the oil massage. Pretty good deal 100RMB per hr for the massage and I always threw in 100RMB for the tip. Relaxing and a good deal.
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PS The amount of information here is just great.

Comrade 2255
07-05-05, 02:04
I bought this device myself also and just to make it clear the ectaco devices do NOT work so well. First of all it will just go in 1 direction (English-Chinese) and the phrases are very, very, very limited. For mongering it is the total misfit. the so called speachguard is the worst. Also the delivery time... (1 months and many phone calls later) In my case the device arrived even broken. The redelivery took quite a while and I needed to deposit again.
Ectaco did not send out the parcel completely and until now (1year later) still some optional parts are missing. Also for the device itself I cannot recommend this article at all.
I never received any invoice for this device. So for business users: be warned!

Something to keep in mind for all, and not meaning to incite anything here, but when a commercial website's URL has something like /?refid=xyz123 at the end of it, it often means "xyz123" is an agent who picks up a commission on any clicks that result in a sale.

Member #3071
07-05-05, 18:16
Hello guys,

I managed to get it in chinese; Now it should be a no brainer. Happy hunting

Conch - Hai Luo Hotel:
Address: No. 1281, Rd. Zhong Shan Xi
Tel: 62703232
Chinese Name: 海螺宾馆, 中山西路1281号.
Follow up: Went there today. Price has gone up to 690 for 3 hours. Asked for manager Lim as suggested, got attention right away. I simply said Jim from US want to say hi (well of course there is no Jim). It was 1:30 Pm ( a little early?) he shown me 3 girls. I picked the cutest one (an 8.5). The service was excellent. She gave me her phone number afterward, told me to call for a date yahoooooo... I probably will ask her for a night out. Only small probelm is I speak very little Chinese, she does not speak English (still love it). There was a young guy named BOB (manager assistant?), tip 50 to ensure a pleasant come back. Told him, my friends are coming... and will ask for him. Mention Jeff from USA send you - hope he remember my name :). Happy hunting.

Having read the post above I gave it a try tonight. With this description the place is very easy to find.

Price is true as well and after a short sauna I was guided upstairs. Again unlucky me I did not have the choice among three but ended right away in a room with a girl which was looking ok as long as she was dressed.

To briefly summarize that experience:

- The massage was lousy and un-inspiring. One of the worst I ever had and nothing compensated for this. Sometimes the looks do.

- Then she undressed (not so nice) and things after that were new to me. That could have probably been nice if done in a sensitive way. Icecubes on the back, hot water, etc. In this case I nearly hated it.

When I had to turn around I finally decided to leave. The first time that I did it. She was actually nice in her behaviour but all the rest was not for me.

Nevertheless the place is quite nice, the service (not the one of the girl) perfect and the sauna brutaly hot (with beer and lots of water on the oven).

My conclusion is that it is probably worth to go there again but then I need somebody helping out with the language to avoid another spoiled experience.

So have fun.

Ace Gallant
07-08-05, 02:26
Having read the post above I gave it a try tonight. With this description the place is very easy to find.

Price is true as well and after a short sauna I was guided upstairs. Again unlucky me I did not have the choice among three but ended right away in a room with a girl which was looking ok as long as she was dressed.

To briefly summarize that experience:

- The massage was lousy and un-inspiring. One of the worst I ever had and nothing compensated for this. Sometimes the looks do.

- Then she undressed (not so nice) and things after that were new to me. That could have probably been nice if done in a sensitive way. Icecubes on the back, hot water, etc. In this case I nearly hated it.

When I had to turn around I finally decided to leave. The first time that I did it. She was actually nice in her behaviour but all the rest was not for me.

Nevertheless the place is quite nice, the service (not the one of the girl) perfect and the sauna brutaly hot (with beer and lots of water on the oven).

My conclusion is that it is probably worth to go there again but then I need somebody helping out with the language to avoid another spoiled experience.

So have fun.

Tips:

1) You call the manager to make an appointment and have him prepare the girl of your type before you arrive. Get a friend who can speak Chinese to help you on that.

2) Prepare to spend more time there in case they do not have your type of girl. They will arrange for it from another one of their "chain store".

3) If the girl you get is lousy, complain to the manager, you will likely to get discount, remember they want you the come back!

4) If you go late, After 11pm, you may want to consider to stay till closing time and meet the girl after work! You finish off at 3am and wait for her near the Conach Hotel. They usually take 20 mins to "wash up" Split the tips for the day...etc...

By the way: they have Manager that speak English (Broken English) and Manager Mr. Lin speaks Japanese.

My hit rate in this place is so far 100%

Shaolin Monk
07-08-05, 20:08
Tips:

1) You call the manager to make an appointment and have him prepare the girl of your type before you arrive. Get a friend who can speak Chinese to help you on that.

2) Prepare to spend more time there in case they do not have your type of girl. They will arrange for it from another one of their "chain store".

3) If the girl you get is lousy, complain to the manager, you will likely to get discount, remember they want you the come back!

4) If you go late, After 11pm, you may want to consider to stay till closing time and meet the girl after work! You finish off at 3am and wait for her near the Conach Hotel. They usually take 20 mins to "wash up" Split the tips for the day...etc...

By the way: they have Manager that speak English (Broken English) and Manager Mr. Lin speaks Japanese.

My hit rate in this place is so far 100%

Just note that the girls works in two shifts. Some leave at 1 am and the others 3am. Happy hunting

Ace Gallant
07-09-05, 07:04
Just note that the girls works in two shifts. Some leave at 1 am and the others 3am. Happy hunting


Yah...forgotten about that, Good point. Those who starts at 3pm get off at 1am. Those who starts at about 5pm get off at 3am.

jankyfreak
07-11-05, 17:56
fellow mongers I'll be heading back to Shanghai again..

This time I am staying at a friend's apartment... Are girls still wanting to come back to an apartment?

But Damn... no laundered sheets after a easy call to the hotel massage place.. or even that option for the hotel massage...

Anyone up for some mongering at the barber shops... As my friend is not into this type of thing.

I'm in Shanghai for at least two weeks this time around.


-JF

Ace Gallant
07-11-05, 18:12
fellow mongers I'll be heading back to Shanghai again..

This time I am staying at a friend's apartment... Are girls still wanting to come back to an apartment?

But Damn... no laundered sheets after a easy call to the hotel massage place.. or even that option for the hotel massage...

Anyone up for some mongering at the barber shops... As my friend is not into this type of thing.

I'm in Shanghai for at least two weeks this time around.

-JF

Why not you try Saunas or Baolong hotel massage? Read my previous posting.

jankyfreak
07-11-05, 23:13
Why not you try Saunas or Baolong hotel massage? Read my previous posting.
Thanks I just scrolled down.. again... a lazy internet surfer....

Sebastian My
07-12-05, 04:15
next they show me an italian named place on jiujang lu near the corner of sichuan long lu. it is a dive but they have some quality women in the place. the bad news is that it is total rip off. i sit with two high quality looking women and of course first they order lady's drinks which are 80 yuan. the next round they order whiskey which is 180 yuan. i am thinking of course that i am paying 80. i quickly run up a bar tab of 2500 yuan in 30 minutes. now if the girl would have gone with me i would have thought ok because i was out to find a looker. of course, you know the story.you should try a bbs or babyface disco - if you are a laowai you will be quickly approached by someone and you can arrange for a take-out experience or just a chat for a reasonable price.

places that charge "lady drinks" are typically a rip off - i got done for about usd$1000 in tokyo last year and it has taught me a good lession. saying that speedwell's is a reasonable "lady drink" bar - no take away, but they typically don't rip you off.

without mandarin skills you are always a "target". i also find shanghai women, while attractive, a high probability of a total rip off. my final advise is to ask if the girl is a native shanghaies - and if you get a yes - try and disengage.

but don't give up hope, i find china great for this type of activity and if done correctly comparible to pattaya - although it will be more expensive.

Ace Gallant
07-12-05, 09:14
you should try a bbs or babyface disco - if you are a laowai you will be quickly approached by someone and you can arrange for a take-out experience or just a chat for a reasonable price.

places that charge "lady drinks" are typically a rip off - i got done for about usd$1000 in tokyo last year and it has taught me a good lession. saying that speedwell's is a reasonable "lady drink" bar - no take away, but they typically don't rip you off.

sebastian,

if you are coming back to tokyo, you can get some good advise from the board on places to go so that you don't get ripped off. tokyo on the other hand: those place for take out are straight to the point and not ripped you of. which those strictly drink only are the ones that drain your wallet dry. look up some of my posting of tokyo. but now is not the time to visit tokyo because of the crack downs and most of the good place are closed.

shanghai: yes, i second you on native shanghai girls! they are the ones that are dangerous! jf takes smy advise stay far far away from native shanghai girls! also jf, you might want to check out those "new' bars along tongren lu. but be careful when the girls want to play dice games with you. they will go like: you lose you buy me drink, i lose you buy drinks and you drink! they will run your wallet down in no time!

smy: it will helps if you can give some directions to this babyface disco you mentioned. i am heading there next week and may want to give it a try.

happy mongering

Cebu Local
07-12-05, 11:19
Sebastian,

Shanghai: Yes, I second you on native Shanghai girls! They are the ones that are dangerous! JF takes SMY advise Stay far far away from Native Shanghai Girls! Also JF, you might want to check out those "new' bars along TongRen lu. But be careful when the girls want to play dice games with you. They will go like: You lose you buy me drink, I lose you buy drinks and you drink! They will run your wallet down in no time!

SMY: It will helps if you can give some directions to this BabyFace disco you mentioned. I am heading there next week and may want to give it a try.

Happy Mongering Yes,Be extremely careful of Native Shanghai girls,They are truely great longline fisherwomen to quote the novel Shanghai Baby.On a personal note,I confess that I have been hooked by one,I ended up pulling almost all my international connections to get her hired as a manager in a prestigous Shanghai establishment from her previous job.The new job will pay her 25,000 RMB a month compared to her previous job which payed her 18,000 RMB.I only hope it will be worth it,She is promising to express her gratitude when we see each other in the Philippines this October,I dont know how she did it,But what tons of Filipinas couldnt do,She did and made me really fall hard.I sure hope I wont regret this in the future.Anyway back to regular programing

Gaolei
07-12-05, 18:21
I was in Hilda's bar on Julu Lu earlier this year. It was full of buy-me-drink girls, but they all wanted to come back to the hotel. No dice games.

Tinybobo1002
07-12-05, 21:06
Does anyone have any experience (of course mongering experience, not others) with Yang Zhou, about 2 hours west of Shanghai and 1 hour east of Nanjing. I have to spend about a week there. Thanks.

Ace Gallant
07-13-05, 02:12
I was in Hilda's bar on Julu Lu earlier this year. It was full of buy-me-drink girls, but they all wanted to come back to the hotel. No dice games.

Looks like another place to check out.

Asian Travels
07-13-05, 03:05
Sebastian,

If you are coming back to Tokyo, you can get some good advise from the board on places to go so that you don't get ripped off. Tokyo on the other hand: Those place for take out are straight to the point and not ripped you of. Which those strictly drink only are the .

Shanghai: Yes, I second you on native Shanghai girls! They are the ones that are dangerous!
Happy Mongering


Japan is pretty straight forward about pricing, although not knowing/reading Japanese can get you in trouble. My friends had all-you-can drink for Y5000, but the "show" was an added Y10,000, so total $150 per person.

Gualtier Malde
07-13-05, 04:13
I was reading a book on China ("China, Inc.", which is getting mixed reviews) and it mentioned that Viagra is available over the counter in China. True? If so, where would one go? How about Cialis?

I haven't tried it, but it might be interesting to see if it extends (no pun intended) a night of mongering... (to those who have used it, if you don't have E.D., does it give any benefit?)