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Ace Gallant
01-18-06, 17:07
Hi guys,

I will be in Shanghai 6 to8 th of February, it is my first time here any good adress? for a good services with very pretty girls? where I can found good hunting places pub? bar? disco?

Thx for your help

Here we go again....!

Frenchk
Regular Member
Reports: 4

Gualtier Malde
01-19-06, 11:13
Sorry Frenchk, there is nothing good for you in Shanghai. You should try another town. Alternatively, you could RTFF.


Hi guys,

I will be in Shanghai 6 to8 th of February, it is my first time here any good adress? for a good services with very pretty girls? where I can found good hunting places pub? bar? disco?

Thx for your help

Albert Punter
01-19-06, 12:29
Are you fooling us ?

Mike666
01-19-06, 13:18
I don't have a lot of experiences with SN so decided to visit the much talked about Shu Yi Quan. The day was bloody cold so I was grateful to find out the A/C was on full blast. No worry of catching a cold. Went down stairs and did the change/ shower routine. The shower/ hot tub area is rather small. Not much in the way of privacy in the shower area (which I loathe). Even though there weren’t all that many people around, I opted to head for the rest area right after. There’re also the sauna and backrub if you want (experienced Chinese masseuse, middle-aged man; 45 minutes for 48 yuan). Before I had a chance to sit down in the lounge, a female attendant promptly showed up and asked what I wanted to do. I confirmed the price (FS for 600 or double the fun for 1200; they don’t have anything else) and asked for a young girl with good body and pretty face. Food and drinks are free. You can also ask for a private VIP lounge (more like a closet) but no idea whether you have to pay more. I was led to the maze of rooms within 5 minutes.

The room is small and the massage bed smaller still; I do enjoy the mirror though. Nothing like seeing yourself and the girl getting it on! Apparently you can opt to have a lineup of 3 girls in non-peak hour. I decided to stick with mine even though she isn’t my type. She is a Shanghai girl, not smashingly pretty or young but with sizable rack (34D I guess). Standard SYQ service (massage for 30 minutes, rub down/ BM, fire ice, AR, BBBJ, red robe, screwing). Service was actually quite lame after the buzz I’ve heard (I guess I was at fault too since I told her to forgo all the bell and whistle and focus on the “essentials”). The girl maintained professional and didn’t get wild, not much in the way of GFE. Nothing spectacular but I enjoy her tongue work and BM. I’ve heard horror stories with the red robe (girl lost gripe and bit down on customers’ Johnson) so didn’t enjoy it. I guess I am a traditionalist.

Finished my business and had a chat with her. The girls have to undergo “training” and each girl has her “specialty”. They are also planning to do something new soon; something to do with cuff. Hmm…SM really isn’t my thing. Not every girl will do everything so you need to ask before starting. Some go wild on the rope while others “really” dig threesome (licking and fingering each other). I wonder if anyone has tried things like CBJ with popping candy or ice/ jelly in your ass?

The boys in the changing area were rather solicitous and were anxious to know if the “service” was good. I asked if employees get any sort of discount and was told they are forbidden to sample the products. Make sense except it makes for the forbidden fruit syndrome. I think I’ll still relax more with girls instead of boys surrounding my naked self. Paid my 600 and off I went.

Peter Eastwest
01-20-06, 15:12
Hi Folks,

I have read a bit about the red ropes action in SH and since will be going to SH later maybe in summer I would like to try this.

Does anyone know if there is a picture or film anywhere on the wwweb that is showing the red ropes attraction. Can send me a PM or post on forum (because many other monger probably interested to see).

Thank you guys
Pete

OldAsiaHand
01-20-06, 16:06
Hi guys,

I will be in Shanghai 6 to8 th of February, it is my first time here any good adress? for a good services with very pretty girls? where I can found good hunting places pub? bar? disco?

Thx for your help

First Trip To Manila

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Hi guys,

I am having my first trip to manila, 27 to 30 January,

Please I need your advice where to found beautiful girls?

Iamsure should have every where haha.

Please let me know where re the best place to hang out, I will; sty in makatin in a smal hotel called El Cielito Hotel anyone tried it?

Thanks for your help and information.

Gualtier Malde
01-20-06, 18:45
Such a thing is not possible for a monger, because the first thing you are required to do when you enter a Shanghai sauna is strip and put all your belongings in a locked locker. No way you could ever get a camera that deep into the place.

The service has been very well described in this forum. The descriptions are vivid enough that I'm sure you can form a mental picture. Everything they say about it is true. It is well worth the expense, and no training is required (by you).

David


Hi Folks,

I have read a bit about the red ropes action in SH and since will be going to SH later maybe in summer I would like to try this.

Does anyone know if there is a picture or film anywhere on the wwweb that is showing the red ropes attraction. Can send me a PM or post on forum (because many other monger probably interested to see).

Thank you guys
Pete

Pentathelete
01-20-06, 23:20
Dear Cheongsters,

I have been to massage parlours in Shanghai and they all have a plastic bag for carrying mobile phones. I once put a vibrating egg in there wrap in another plastic bag and took it all the way to the massage room. So nothing is impossible. It would be another story whether you can charm your way for the girl to let you take pictures or film of the action place though.

Peter

Old Wreck
01-21-06, 00:22
Such a thing is not possible for a monger, because the first thing you are required to do when you enter a Shanghai sauna is strip and put all your belongings in a locked locker. No way you could ever get a camera that deep into the place.

DavidIf you ask, all saunas will gladly provide a re-sealable plastic bag for your mobile phone, so that you can carry it with you as you go through the various sauna facilities. Have done so a couple of times when necessary to have my phone available for an expected incoming call. The locker boys or the towel attendant in the area where they give you your pajamas will be the one to ask... if you don't know the Mandarin just use gestures, they will catch on easily as the concept will be familiar to them. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do this with a small camera as well. The attendants couldn't care less. But then negotiating the picture with the gal might be another matter.

Last time I did this it lead to some hilarious scenes as I forgot my plastic-bag-wrapped mobile and left it in the in the shower soap dish tray and wandered off without it, and then had to scramble back through a lot of naked guys trying to find it, and my Mandarin is sort of OK but not all that hot really. My phone+baggie was gone, naturally, but after some comical inquiries they understood and it was quickly recovered as they had naturally picked it up and set it aside (in the pocket of the locker room attendant) waiting for the owner to claim it. It was sort of funny since when I was looking I picked up another wet drippy bag with a similar phone only to find an irate owner informing me in no uncertain terms that this was his not mine. Also I did not have my glasses on (which I also misplaced), and since I am blind as a bat without them, and am about three times the size of the typical Asian men, and was not immediately certain he was right, etc. etc.Well, you had to be there. In retrospect, am pretty amused at my antics.

Ace Gallant
01-21-06, 02:18
First Trip To Manila

Hi guys,

I am having my first trip to manila, 27 to 30 January,

Please I need your advice where to found beautiful girls?

Iamsure should have every where haha.

Please let me know where re the best place to hang out, I will; sty in makatin in a smal hotel called El Cielito Hotel anyone tried it?

Thanks for your help and information.

Kind of strange to talk about Manila here but anyways:

Lot of places in Makati Areas. If you are into the higher class type, hang out at the Hard Rock Cafe in Gloriata Mall. Before 10pm entrance is free (becuase the Disco starts at 10.) After 10pm you will see the some hanging outside and waiting for someone to to bring them in. If you buy by the bottle, Entance is free anytime.

Star Bucks Coffee Between the corner of Shangri-la Hotel and Gloriata Mall has its supply of really nice girls. I pick up some from there before. I even had a Porn star from there.

There are couple of Bars around Makati areas that are well posted in the Manila post.

If you want to travel a little further, which is not very far as Shanghai, go to Entertainment Center in Pasir (Read as Pa - Xai in Phillippines) There is a building full of Strip bars and you can take them out.

In fact there are a lot posted in the Manila Thread.

Enjoy Phillippines... you will find the price slightly higher for high class girls but the rest is almost the same.

Ace Gallant
01-21-06, 02:22
Hi Folks,

I have read a bit about the red ropes action in SH and since will be going to SH later maybe in summer I would like to try this.

Does anyone know if there is a picture or film anywhere on the wwweb that is showing the red ropes attraction. Can send me a PM or post on forum (because many other monger probably interested to see).

Thank you guys
Pete

You may do it over Phones with Camera. They allow you to bring your phone into the rooms. Some of the sauna even have it store in a Ziplock bags which you carry from beyong the Jaguzzi.

Film? Not sure there are any?

OldAsiaHand
01-21-06, 04:07
Darkman,

My post was a quote of the same thing by Frenchk from the Manila thread. I was not asking about action in Manila. I just posted it to illustrate that he did not bother to RTFF there either. His 4 posts are all just requests for information without a single contribution. It never ceases to amaze me and pisses me off immensely when newbies do not RTFF after all the contributions we senior members make to this forum.

I apologize for the confusion caused.

Happy Hunting!

OAH

TopHits
01-21-06, 04:48
After spending two years in Cebu, Philippines. Finally i am going to leave this lovely city and go to shanghai. Basically i know nothing about shanghai, can anyone tell me more about shanghai? How much is the living cost there? food, groceries, apartment and etc. And of course most important things, where can i have fun in shanghai? How much i should pay for the services(HJ, BJ, Full service).

Ace Gallant
01-21-06, 05:04
Darkman,

My post was a quote of the same thing by Frenchk from the Manila thread. I was not asking about action in Manila. I just posted it to illustrate that he did not bother to RTFF there either. His 4 posts are all just requests for information without a single contribution. It never ceases to amaze me and pisses me off immensely when newbies do not RTFF after all the contributions we senior members make to this forum.

I apologize for the confusion caused.

Happy Hunting!

OAH

Oops!

Actually because I answered because the post was coming from you. If it I knew it was from a Newbie... I will not even bother to answer.

My fault too...I did not RTFF on the previous posting by Frenchk.

At one moment I was wondering too... why would an experience monger like you asking a question like that....hehe

Mianbao
01-21-06, 08:55
I usually try to stick to the market rates mentioned in here and then pay extra for good attitude/service and state clearly why I am giving extra so that they know not to always expect it, but last night's experience in a BBS in Jing'An district was nuts...

Me: How much?
Her: 500.
Me: Are you joking? What about for just a BJ.
Her: Would you come?
Me: Yes, or if not you can finish with HJ.
Her: 600.
Me: You just said 500 for FS.
Her: BJ is more.
Me: Your prices are crazy.
Her: That's the normal price.
Me: How about just HJ then?
Her: 300.
Me: You cannot be serious. HJ is always less than 100.
Her: I know you did FS with Xiao Wu last time. you paid her 500 right?
Me: Of course not (I hadn't paid anything like that - I guess she bulls*&t to her workmates that she had got that out of me). There are plenty of places in SH with FS for 200 or less. 130 in Minghang district.
Her: That's impossible. 500 is the normal price.
Me: I'm leaving (stood up)
Her: Wait, you say how much for BJ.
Me: Bye!

Hopefully made a point that they are not going to charge me these silly prices, so will go back and see what happens next time. The mamasan knows my face now as spoke briefly beforehand and said bye on my way out. I am not even going to start negotiating until they come up with a sensible starting point, and I am going to keep walking out of there until they do. Enough is enough!

I really should just get in a taxi and check out this village you lot keep referring to, just keen to get this BBS five minutes from my apartment happening, phone call for takeout is possible as long as they get real.

Ended up with a HJ in another BBS 10 metres away where you pay whatever you feel like. Gave 70 and she was delighted.

Albert Punter
01-21-06, 18:48
Please be so kind to read what we replied to Frenchk.
It is very informative.


After spending two years in Cebu, Philippines. Finally i am going to leave this lovely city and go to shanghai. Basically i know nothing about shanghai, can anyone tell me more about shanghai? How much is the living cost there? food, groceries, apartment and etc. And of course most important things, where can i have fun in shanghai? How much i should pay for the services(HJ, BJ, Full service).

Gualtier Malde
01-22-06, 03:25
Well, I happily stand corrected! Sorry for providing inaccurate information - I never tried to take along my phone, but it makes sense that you might be able to in this day and age. I would be curious to hear if someone was successful in bringing what is obviously a camera though - the other patrons might object too if they saw a camera in the sauna. In any case, if any of you folks succeed in bringing a camera, post some photos (just not ones of me, please)!

David


If you ask, all saunas will gladly provide a re-sealable plastic bag for your mobile phone, so that you can carry it with you as you go through the various sauna facilities. Have done so a couple of times when necessary to have my phone available for an expected incoming call. The locker boys or the towel attendant in the area where they give you your pajamas will be the one to ask... if you don't know the Mandarin just use gestures, they will catch on easily as the concept will be familiar to them. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do this with a small camera as well. The attendants couldn't care less. But then negotiating the picture with the gal might be another matter.

Last time I did this it lead to some hilarious scenes as I forgot my plastic-bag-wrapped mobile and left it in the in the shower soap dish tray and wandered off without it, and then had to scramble back through a lot of naked guys trying to find it, and my Mandarin is sort of OK but not all that hot really. My phone+baggie was gone, naturally, but after some comical inquiries they understood and it was quickly recovered as they had naturally picked it up and set it aside (in the pocket of the locker room attendant) waiting for the owner to claim it. It was sort of funny since when I was looking I picked up another wet drippy bag with a similar phone only to find an irate owner informing me in no uncertain terms that this was his not mine. Also I did not have my glasses on (which I also misplaced), and since I am blind as a bat without them, and am about three times the size of the typical Asian men, and was not immediately certain he was right, etc. etc.Well, you had to be there. In retrospect, am pretty amused at my antics.

Gualtier Malde
01-22-06, 03:39
did a little research on the equatorial hotel's services. (equatorial is a 4 star hotel next to the hilton, known to the locals as "gwei du" [ can't say my pinyin spelling is correct, but that's the phonetic sound ].)

the hotel has a spa that offers a range of massage services. while the layout is typical for a shanghai sauna, they do not seem to offer any special services. they *do* offer excellent regular massage, but after two trips for two different types of massage, i was not offered anything. i will say that the first time, one therapist started to make what appeared to be a suggestive gesture for bj at the end, but did not follow up to my indication of interest, so i probably misinterpreted the gesture.

if anyone else has had a different experience i would be interested in hearing about it and learning the trick to unlock the mysteries of their sauna.

the blue moon bar on the fourth floor has a mamasan who politely offers her girls to unaccompanied patrons. rates are steep. she starts the bargaining at $150usd. she actually tries to negotiate in usd rather than rmb. i was not interested. however, it was worth noting that she told me that if i were interested later, i could merely call the bar and ask for her. i presume, since the bar obviously knows and supports her business activity, that at any time if you would like service and don't want to leave your room for cheaper fare, you can always call the bar and ask them to send a lady to your room, and i'm sure they will comply. expect to pay dearly for that convenience though.

i have not tried the in-room massage. perhaps i will on the next visit and report back to the group.

Mike666
01-22-06, 04:58
Hi Folks,

I have read a bit about the red ropes action in SH and since will be going to SH later maybe in summer I would like to try this.

Does anyone know if there is a picture or film anywhere on the wwweb that is showing the red ropes attraction. Can send me a PM or post on forum (because many other monger probably interested to see).

Thank you guys

PeteIf you are hell-bended to know, try to get a copy of "Samsara". There's a scene in this movie where the protagonist had a rather inept session with a big tits Indian girl. The girl did one red rope trick. Rumor has it some enterprising HK/ mainland proprietors started asking their girls to perform this trick after the movie came out. I could be wrong. PM me if you want pix.

Ace Gallant
01-22-06, 05:01
Well, I happily stand corrected! Sorry for providing inaccurate information - I never tried to take along my phone, but it makes sense that you might be able to in this day and age. I would be curious to hear if someone was successful in bringing what is obviously a camera though - the other patrons might object too if they saw a camera in the sauna. In any case, if any of you folks succeed in bringing a camera, post some photos (just not ones of me, please)!

David

David, I think you are right, the problem with bringing A Movie Camera is not with the Sauna Management but is with the other patrons. Their security is at stake! I guess as long as the other Patrons do not complains they will let you in. But Camera Phones never have problems.

Good ideal! Have a photo of you in action and blackmail you! Why I haven't thought of that??? Hehehe... just kidding!

Cheers!
DK

Mike666
01-22-06, 05:05
Well, I happily stand corrected! Sorry for providing inaccurate information - I never tried to take along my phone, but it makes sense that you might be able to in this day and age. I would be curious to hear if someone was successful in bringing what is obviously a camera though - the other patrons might object too if they saw a camera in the sauna. In any case, if any of you folks succeed in bringing a camera, post some photos (just not ones of me, please)!

DavidI haven't yet tried but was told some SN offered VIP/ private massage room for an additional fee. Mongers will change, shower, and store personal items in the same place. So long as you keep the equipment out of sight AND you can charm the girl, it is quite possible to film your own reality porn show. Something worth thinking about.

Cebu Local
01-23-06, 00:13
After spending two years in Cebu, Philippines. Finally i am going to leave this lovely city and go to shanghai. Basically i know nothing about shanghai, can anyone tell me more about shanghai? How much is the living cost there? food, groceries, apartment and etc. And of course most important things, where can i have fun in shanghai? How much i should pay for the services(HJ, BJ, Full service).
OK,Considering you have made some reports in the Cebu thread,Look for the website of Asian Expat for information about Shanghai Living ,Housing,Food conditions.Regarding Sexual services,RTFF polite form READ THE FORUM FIRST and post or PM if you have SPECIFIC questions.Cheers

Goldshang
01-23-06, 08:33
did a little research on the equatorial hotel's services. (equatorial is a 4 star hotel next to the hilton, known to the locals as "gwei du" [ can't say my pinyin spelling is correct, but that's the phonetic sound ].)

the hotel has a spa that offers a range of massage services. while the layout is typical for a shanghai sauna, they do not seem to offer any special services. they *do* offer excellent regular massage, but after two trips for two different types of massage, i was not offered anything. i will say that the first time, one therapist started to make what appeared to be a suggestive gesture for bj at the end, but did not follow up to my indication of interest, so i probably misinterpreted the gesture.

if anyone else has had a different experience i would be interested in hearing about it and learning the trick to unlock the mysteries of their sauna.

the blue moon bar on the fourth floor has a mamasan who politely offers her girls to unaccompanied patrons. rates are steep. she starts the bargaining at $150usd. she actually tries to negotiate in usd rather than rmb. i was not interested. however, it was worth noting that she told me that if i were interested later, i could merely call the bar and ask for her. i presume, since the bar obviously knows and supports her business activity, that at any time if you would like service and don't want to leave your room for cheaper fare, you can always call the bar and ask them to send a lady to your room, and i'm sure they will comply. expect to pay dearly for that convenience though.

i have not tried the in-room massage. perhaps i will on the next visit and report back to the group.david,

don't waste your time. i stayed there for a couple of days last week and other than the standard massage (i had mine at the 4th floor beauty saloon) there is nothing else offered. they are not allowed to go to the room so don't expect any in-room massage services.

blue moon was closed on the monday & fully booked for a function on tuesday so i didn't had a chance to try it either.

i did notice that there is a couple of massage joints behind the hotel, jb massage etc that you might wish to try though.

best of luck !!

Pentathelete
01-23-06, 12:53
Dear Cheongsters,

I was game enough the other day to sneak a remote control vibro egg into the massage room by wrapping it is plastic bag.

Keep it discrete

Regards,

Peter

Fenti
01-23-06, 15:01
Walked by a place called "Yu He Sauna" in Yu Yuen Road. Anyone tried it out?

River146
01-23-06, 18:50
I totally agree with you. If the bargain can not be immediately closed, the best way is leave. I think close a deal just need one or two sentence. It sonds nothing, but it is important. In my experience, after long time bargain, I usually chould not get best service, because I met a deceitful girl. In the most of case I just need tell that I know the right price in shanghai. I always get the deal. Especially for you gus--laowai(foreign visitor), otherwise, you will increase the your price on this business.


I usually try to stick to the market rates mentioned in here and then pay extra for good attitude/service and state clearly why I am giving extra so that they know not to always expect it, but last night's experience in a BBS in Jing'An district was nuts...

Me: How much?
Her: 500.
Me: Are you joking? What about for just a BJ.
Her: Would you come?
Me: Yes, or if not you can finish with HJ.
Her: 600.
Me: You just said 500 for FS.
Her: BJ is more.
Me: Your prices are crazy.
Her: That's the normal price.
Me: How about just HJ then?
Her: 300.
Me: You cannot be serious. HJ is always less than 100.
Her: I know you did FS with Xiao Wu last time. you paid her 500 right?
Me: Of course not (I hadn't paid anything like that - I guess she bulls*&t to her workmates that she had got that out of me). There are plenty of places in SH with FS for 200 or less. 130 in Minghang district.
Her: That's impossible. 500 is the normal price.
Me: I'm leaving (stood up)
Her: Wait, you say how much for BJ.
Me: Bye!

.................
.

Gualtier Malde
01-23-06, 22:53
I won't bore the group with endless details of my last visit. I had a great time in the bars this time, mostly without any take home entertainment. It was fun just to get to know the bar scene a bit better.

I had a great time at Zapatas, where I danced with a little cutie until another cutie stole me away. This one decided to negotiate an out of the bar experience. Unfortunately, she wouldn't get down close enough to earth with her prices. We eventually got down to what I considered an acceptable LT price, but when I said "OK, Long Time" she got offended and walked off. That was OK with me, since I wasn't really in the mood to take her out anyway. But she *was* cute. I'd rank her up with Sally, a lady who's photo I posted in the gallery last month.

At the end of the week, I hooked up with two ladies who work Malones together. I had seen them in the bar before, and suspected they would play together, since the first time I saw them they were very touchy-feely with each other. I called them over, and sure enough they agreed to play together in a threesome.

We got a taxi, and before I knew it, instead of going to my hotel, one of the girls was telling the taxi to go to her apartment. I was a bit concerned. I kept arguing that my hotel was closer, but she was insistent. She later said that they would have a hard time going into my hotel at that late hour (it was about 1:30am).

Well, her apartment was pretty far away, and I felt a little vulnerable, but I kept up my guard, and nothing untoward happened. We arrived at their apartment (a small studio), which they had set up as a little love nest.

The action was not quite so hot as I would have hoped. They didn't play with each other as I had hoped, but did do as I asked.

All in all I would not repeat, and will not let myself be taken to an apartment against my wishes again, but it was interesting to visit a local neighborhood and experience an actual Shanghainese apartment.

If you spot these two in Malones, one is named Lina. I didn't catch the other one's name. On balance, I don't recommend them, though Lina by herself may be OK in a pinch, if you can get her to come to your hotel. It is not worth going to their apartment.

David

Cun Ling 2000
01-24-06, 02:52
I have just got back from a business trip to Shanghai. To cut a long story short, despite the problems that I had been having with RTFF'ing, I was lucky enough to spend Friday night with a beautiful and charming local girl who called herself Anna.

23 years old, long silky smooth hair, bush trimmed to perfection, small tits, but great brown nipples that stood to attention for 2 hours and the smoothest skin you could imagine

All that said, the best thing about Anna was that she is that she was accompanied by the ultimate accessory; her identical twin sister, who called herself Kate!

We met on the street at about 1.30 outside a bar on Tongren Road (don't ask me which one) that I was leaving and they were heading into.

So for the huge sum of roughly AUD145 (they wanted USD150, but everything is negotiable in Shanghai), I got to live out my biggest fantasy.

After getting the girls into my room at the Shangri-La (a lot less hassle than I had been expecting based on trips to Beijing a couple of years ago) I started off by getting the girls to lie on the bed playing with their twats - fantasy part 1 done!

After about 10 minutes, I decided it was time to get balls deep into Anna who seemed to be a bit more forward than Kate. We started off with me on top, propped up on my arms so that I could, kiss Kate and suck those beautiful nipples - fantasy part 2 done. Before meeting the girls I had been out drinking at Malones Sports Bar (great band with two very cute female Filipino singers while the regular band is away) so the alcohol worked nicely to slow me down a bit. Anyway after 4 or 5 positions and 20 minutes or so, I finished off Anna doggie style.

After a quick shower with Anna, I switched my attentions to Kate. This time we started off with her squatting on my dick, while I kissed Anna. Anna then headed south to lick and play with my balls. Poor Kate was getting a bit knackered by now - the alcohol effect yet again! So I flipped her over on to her side and took her sideways, kissing Anna along the way! Next, I pulled Kate to the end of the bed and fucked her, with her on her back on my half standing on the floor/ half kneeling on the end of the bed. I finished off kneeling over the top of Kate while she jerked my off on to her tits, neck and chin. I was left feeling a bit unloved when she did a sprint into the shower!! She moved faster than an Olympic sprinter!

Despite having agreed that I was paying for 3 shots, Anna was pretty keen for me to go to sleep so they could leave. There was no way I was letting them leave until I had ticked off fantasy part 3 - getting a BJ from two girls at the same time.

So much to Anna's disappointment we headed into round 3. I was keen on a BBBJ/ CIM, but settled for CBJ - new highlight of the night was watching Anna feed my cock into that beautiful mouth of her sister!!

They alternated roles with one sucking my cock while the other licked my balls and played with my arse hole. I had been hoping for one of them to lick my arse, but it didn't happen - better luck next time? Round 3 finished off like round 2, although this time I jerked myself off onto Anna's face while Kate kissed my back and nipples. Nice!!

Didn't try for DATY or anal - would have blown my fucking mind if that had been on the menu. And I did discover the one drawback about being with a set of twins - no lesbian action!!!

There is a good chance that I will be heading up to KL in the next few months - hoping to come up with some way of topping my Shanghai trip! If anyone has any advice on good places in KL I'd be happy to hear from you.

Cunning Linguist

Albert Punter
01-24-06, 15:00
David and Goldshang,

Have you tried the KTV ?

I have always seen stunners there.
Prices are high though and I have never taken any girl.

Ace Gallant
01-24-06, 16:15
If you spot these two in Malones, one is named Lina. I didn't catch the other one's name. On balance, I don't recommend them, though Lina by herself may be OK in a pinch, if you can get her to come to your hotel. It is not worth going to their apartment.

David

Hmm... Lina... does she have short hair and wear a pair of tinted glass? Tie a pony tail? Sounds like someone I had in Malone sometime back.... The Lina I knew was quite good in Bed but she doesn't works for Malones, she just goes there to be pick up. She doesn't even wear Malones Uniform.

How much you said you paid for the threesome?

You have to be careful there....David ...about going to their place... a friend of mine got blackmailed when he was filmed doing those stuff at the girl's place. That where I got the joke about Black Mailing you on the Sauna photos... Take care!

Cheers

Ace Gallant
01-24-06, 16:18
Dear Cheongsters,

I was game enough the other day to sneak a remote control vibro egg into the massage room by wrapping it is plastic bag.

Keep it discrete

Regards,

Peter

Good work, but I don;t think it is a problem bringing anything into Saunas as you said "Keep it discrete".

Unless you are bringing a Camera Crew into the rooms.

Enjoy!

Gualtier Malde
01-24-06, 19:55
Hi Darkman,

Sorry, I wasn't clear. When I said "worked Malones" I didn't mean "worked at Malones" as an employee. She is definitely independent of the bar, just a "working girl".

She does have short hair, I don't remember a pony tail though. Her friend (forgot her name) does wear a pony tail, has tinted hair, and wears tinted glasses. Both are older, I would say in their early 30s.

Lina is pretty good in bed, but her friend is a little too business like, (though she did warm up after I gave her an O! :-) ). Lina seems to enjoy sex. I think her friend enjoys money much more... :-)

I negotiated 400RMB each, which is not the greatest rate, but got the deed done.

David


Hmm... Lina... does she have short hair and wear a pair of tinted glass? Tie a pony tail? Sounds like someone I had in Malone sometime back.... The Lina I knew was quite good in Bed but she doesn't works for Malones, she just goes there to be pick up. She doesn't even wear Malones Uniform.

How much you said you paid for the threesome?

You have to be careful there....David ...about going to their place... a friend of mine got blackmailed when he was filmed doing those stuff at the girl's place. That where I got the joke about Black Mailing you on the Sauna photos... Take care!

Cheers

Steve Steve
01-25-06, 07:53
Was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Radisson New World?

How is the location?

Is it difficult to take women to your room?

How is the action in the bars?

What extra services are offerred with the in-house massage?

Thanks for the feedback.

Frank_OS
01-25-06, 09:37
I will be in Shanghai in February. Does anyone have experiences with the escort site www.chinaescorts.org ? Before I invest in there membership to see contact details of the girls, I would like to know if it is a fake or if anyone has good experiences with them.

Good comming Chinese New Year to everyone.

Ace Gallant
01-26-06, 01:41
Hi Darkman,

Sorry, I wasn't clear. When I said "worked Malones" I didn't mean "worked at Malones" as an employee. She is definitely independent of the bar, just a "working girl".

She does have short hair, I don't remember a pony tail though. Her friend (forgot her name) does wear a pony tail, has tinted hair, and wears tinted glasses. Both are older, I would say in their early 30s.

Lina is pretty good in bed, but her friend is a little too business like, (though she did warm up after I gave her an O! :-) ). Lina seems to enjoy sex. I think her friend enjoys money much more... :-)

I negotiated 400RMB each, which is not the greatest rate, but got the deed done.

David

Sound like her... she got short hair (Shoulder length and ties a tiny pony tail at the two sides) When I asked her why she bother to tie the tiny pony tails, she said it make her look like she is a school girl and Japanese love that!

400RMB LT each starting at 1:30am ... reasonble... I remember Lina BS to me about she working as a PR in a Golf Resort management company. I think that the same lady.

Ace Gallant
01-26-06, 01:44
I will be in Shanghai in February. Does anyone have experiences with the escort site www.chinaescorts.org ? Before I invest in there membership to see contact details of the girls, I would like to know if it is a fake or if anyone has good experiences with them.

Good comming Chinese New Year to everyone.

I tried them 3 years ago...I have a lifetime membership with them that cost US$50... tried a couple of the girls and they are real for sure, although they look not as nice as in the photos. However... all of them are over price, you are better off with Alternatives.

Arctic1
01-26-06, 02:32
I will be in Shanghai in February. Does anyone have experiences with the escort site www.chinaescorts.org ? Before I invest in there membership to see contact details of the girls, I would like to know if it is a fake or if anyone has good experiences with them.

Good comming Chinese New Year to everyone.Whether they deliver or not, I have no personal experience. Using this kind of service is bound to be more expensive, and it is like carrying coals to Newcastle. I mean, a person would be making arrangements beforehand for services already there in abundance.

Pentathelete
01-26-06, 03:25
I tried them 3 years ago...I have a lifetime membership with them that cost US$50... tried a couple of the girls and they are real for sure, although they look not as nice as in the photos. However... all of them are over price, you are better off with Alternatives.Darkman2 & ors,

How much are the girls in general? any ripoffs or bad experiences? Are they priced as quoted on the net? any GF experience or at least part time/amateur feeling I. E. Real student or OL feel.

I guess by your remarks, no second time with them as dates social or LT?

Regards

Peter

Wolf
01-26-06, 07:03
The Wolf is in town and return to one of his favorite playground.
I really enjoyed this last experience as, once more, I repeated to 2 kind of options ; first a full body massage in the massage room and then the 3 legs massage.

I have been assigned # 631 for the full body massage.

When I entered the room, her smile was so encouraging and promising that we simply embraced and forgot about the massage for a full hour. She just interrompted the play to go and get some material (basically condoms and cream). She enjoyed providing everything and, believe it or not, I succeeded to let me try her back door. Had to stop mid course as she was in pain but she was not reluctant to ty till this point. FS was very energic but done with quite some enthusiasm. She finished me with a very enjoyable BBJCIM&F and we both laughed when she tried to clean her face and hair as my load was rather large. She went out to cleanherself and came back and only then delivered a relaxing massage. She wanted to end it with a hand job but I had already planned to see the 3 legger massager so I declined the offer and left.

Outside the room, I headed for the relax room.
Received my drink and my fruits and asked for the leg massager.
They sent me Miss # 709.
She is simply the best. I already experienced her twice.
For about 45mn, she gave me a very good and skilled foot and leg massage, a real reflexology one.
Then she approached closer, took away my short and covered me with a large owel and started to provide a tremendously good balls massage for more than 20mn that she then ended wit a very slow be even more enjoyable hand job.
Men, you have to try this.

These evening was absolutely close to 2h30mn of heaven for 900 Rmb.

Thought it was good to share the experience.

Enjoy.

Wolf

Calico
01-26-06, 07:43
Was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Radisson New World?

How is the location?

Is it difficult to take women to your room?

How is the action in the bars?

What extra services are offerred with the in-house massage?

Thanks for the feedback.Steve,

I was there last week.

Great location, walking distance to Nanjing Road. Easy to take the metro, difficult to catch a taxi since we have to fight with the shoppers.

Room is new ( just opened last June ) and modern.

Sky Bar - very dull and no action. Food at the rotating restaurant: no the best foods - better foods someplace else.

In-house massage seems to be professional - starting around 300 rmb or more ( my best guess ).

No problem for the girls to come to your room - in my case even around 10:30 pm. I used Yuki's outcall service one night and it was nice.

Good luck

Calico

Pentathelete
01-26-06, 10:40
Wolf,

Is Skyline the place inside Vista Gujin Holiday Inn Shanghai?

If so how much did they charge you?

Did you try the massage option?

I tried the fs option with no massage at all, just lickathon

Thks

Regards

Peter

Wonder8888
01-28-06, 07:31
Anyone know of a good sauna in Puxi for New Years Eve?

Herr Pollon
01-28-06, 12:03
Hello folks,

I've been in shanghai for a month now and this forum has really help me... I have also tried some of those services in the Shanghai Daily and I am happy with them (but they seem to be for beginers and not for people of your expertise...)

I've been trying to find some nice russian girls in Shanghai but... no success...I have rread the forum (even really old posts) but no good info... Can anybody help me??

BenDover57
01-28-06, 18:01
On a recent trip to Shanghai, I stayed at the Ramada Inn at the Pudong Airport. The Ramada is a 4-Star hotel with a KTV in the basement and massage on the second floor. The KTV girls were very attractive (and unfortunately very expensive), so I settled for the massage girls in my room. They ranged in looks from 6/10 to 8/10, some were quite skilled in “their trade”, and others were just starting out. But one thing they all have in common, they seem to enjoy negotiations, even though their English is very limited. They begin with their little strip-tease act while caressing your cock and try to get your “little-head” to think for the “big-head”. The 8/10 started negotiations at $1200 US and after 40-minutes, we finally settled for $50 US, but by then I was almost out of the mood. Negotiations went faster with the 6/10 (but still took about 20-minutes), and we finally settled for 400 RMB for FS. She was just “starting-out”, so here pussy was extremely tight, but she wasn’t skilled in it use. All-in-all, not a real good experience, but I did get my tool drained!! If any of you have a better suggestion for a hotel in the Pudong Airport area, I would appreciate your help, because I will be traveling there often in the future. Good hunting and keep your powder dry.

OldAsiaHand
01-28-06, 22:11
bendover,

Are you serious? I often wonder if any mongers actually pay these ridculous prices quoted. I was sitting in a hotel bar in Shanghai one night awhile back and saw one monger next to me agree to 250 Euro for ST with a 5/10. I was tempted to say something to the poor bastard, but did not want any trouble and he seemed happy with the price. I cannot understand why he would pay more in China than he would in Europe.

OAH

Apple Court
01-29-06, 03:19
Hello folks,

I've been in shanghai for a month now and this forum has really help me. I have also tried some of those services in the Shanghai Daily and I am happy with them (but they seem to be for beginers and not for people of your expertise.)

I've been trying to find some nice russian girls in Shanghai but. No success. I have rread the forum (even really old posts) but no good info. Can anybody help me? Maoming Road, especially Manhattan Bar, used to have them, haven't been there recently.

PassinThrough
01-29-06, 05:54
bendover,

Are you serious? I often wonder if any mongers actually pay these ridculous prices quoted. I was sitting in a hotel bar in Shanghai one night awhile back and saw one monger next to me agree to 250 Euro for ST with a 5/10. I was tempted to say something to the poor bastard, but did not want any trouble and he seemed happy with the price. I cannot understand why he would pay more in China than he would in Europe.

OAHOAW,

I would chalk it up to two things desperation or ignorance. He was either so desperate he jumped at the first girl that came his way. Or he was ignorant about negotiating. That is pretty common in Europe and America, the proces are fixed and trying to negotiate is frowned upon. Anyway the guy would have been better off reading the forums before going fishing.

PIT (recently changed name because coworker started to figure out other one)

PassinThrough
01-29-06, 06:10
I want to start off by thinking the many people sho posted on the placed in and around Shanghai. I RTFF and got a lot of great information. The one thing that seems to be lacking is better directions to some of the places for the non-Chinese literate person. I know I got lost a couple times, once I eventually found the place and once I gave up and went home.

Went to Skyline one night and had an OK time. One manager spoke broken English. It was a little crowded and I felt rushed. After the shower I was taken to the relax room with a chair and TV. As soon as I sat down I was brought a soft drink and some fruit. Girl left and 10 seconds later another girl came in and said "Massagie now, come" so off I went. taken to a room with low light and no choice to choose. Girl was OK 6/10 face 7/10 body. She did a brief massage before cat bath, cbj, red rope and finally fs. Overall I would give it a 5/10. Was taken back to relax room but decided to leave. Paid 650 and left.

Went to Waves and had a much better experience. After the shower and 5 people helping me undress and then put on a robe I was taken up to a relax room with two chairs. I was brought fruit and a soft drink and had about 5 minutes to relax. Then a guy game in to ask what i wanted. He spoke about 4 words in English so it took a bit. We used a pen to write prices on our hands. Finally got special massage for 600 and foot and leg massage for 400 (started at 690 and 488). Was left to relax for about 5 more minutes then asked if I was ready. I was led to a line up of 4 girls and chose one that looked cute. Not going to go into the details, petty much the same as Skyline, but she was more into it and I would say it was a 7 out of 10.

She took me back to the room where I relaxed for about 10 minutes before the girl came in for the foot and leg massage. I had asked for #709 (thanks for the advice, I owe someone a beer). This girl was great. I had a wonderful time (9.5/10) and left feeling great. I will certainly go back.

That is my limited experience with sauna's. As I see more I will try to give directions based on easy to spot landmarks and local businesses. We will see if I have any luck.

Cheers

PIT

Cebu Local
01-29-06, 08:52
PT Barnum said a Sucker is born every minute

Ace Gallant
01-29-06, 14:05
bendover,

Are you serious? I often wonder if any mongers actually pay these ridculous prices quoted. I was sitting in a hotel bar in Shanghai one night awhile back and saw one monger next to me agree to 250 Euro for ST with a 5/10. I was tempted to say something to the poor bastard, but did not want any trouble and he seemed happy with the price. I cannot understand why he would pay more in China than he would in Europe.

OAH

I think he meant 1200RMB.... but even that...400RMB for FS is too much!

People just don't RTFF anymore...

OAH... well as I said before... maybe some of these monger are too hornny at the time that the Horniness overcome their senses.... and may be also some of these guys just thought they want to impress the girls so that they will be their GF? In either cases, the person who lose out is themselves but the worst part is that they "Spoil the Market".

Ace Gallant
01-29-06, 14:09
I've been trying to find some nice russian girls in Shanghai but... no success...I have rread the forum (even really old posts) but no good info... Can anybody help me??

You are kidding us isn't it?

"I have read the forum (even really old posts) but no good info"

Than why are you asking us on the forum? Since all the info are posted by us so you should not be asking us if all our info are "NO GOOD INFO"?

I think that is an insult to all the senior members on this board!

Here we go again guys:

Herr Pollon
Regular Member
Reports: 2

BenDover57
01-29-06, 14:15
The $1200 US is not a typo, but I believe the young lady was confused and mixed-up $US, RMB, and the worth of her pussy. However, I could not counter-offer until I stopped laughing. And, OAH you make a good point, why spend more in China than you would in the USA or Europe. The only explanation I have is a combination of booze and the "little head" thinking for the big head. Thanks for your comments guys.

Ace Gallant
01-29-06, 14:17
Anyone know of a good sauna in Puxi for New Years Eve?

I think this question is justifiable..... but as mentioned before... CNY... Shanghai can be a Desert!

I recalled my first CNY in Shanghai... walking in and out of severals Saunas wihtout any luck for any good girl. But I was lucky to pick up a Local Shanghainese from a local bar which became my Temp GF for 3 months.

I guess we have to depend on luck than...

Good luck!

Ace Gallant
01-29-06, 14:19
The $1200 US is not a typo, but I believe the young lady was confused and mixed-up $US, RMB, and the worth of her pussy. However, I could not counter-offer until I stopped laughing. And, OAH you make a good point, why spend more in China than you would in the USA or Europe. The only explanation I have is a combination of booze and the "little head" thinking for the big head. Thanks for your comments guys.

Yes... Horniness and Booze does affect your senses... just be careful of your pocket there! That is why it is always good not to monger alone... at least there are some other fellow watching out for you!

Herr Pollon
01-29-06, 20:15
Darkman2, my english might not be good enough, I didn´t meant to insult anybody, and even though I have re-readen my post, I don´t see where the insult is.

What I tried to say is that I read old posts and didn´t find any place in Shanghai where that particullary kind of girl could be found. I mean: I did my homework, I didn´t ask straight, but first I DID look for the info in the forum.

Some of the post I read are really old, more than a year. And they were not very specific (for example, "maybe or sometimes at hard rock cafe". Nothing like the info in beijing where they tell you to go to The Den, or Vics to find girls FOR SURE). That is what, at least for me, is not good info. (do you think such an unspecific info is good? ).

Anyway I apreciate that info, It might as good as it gets. Maybe the case that there is NO specific place for this girls; or at the moment, there aren´t any russian in shanghai. I just wanted to know if anybody could tell me something else.

DARMAN2

"Than why are you asking us on the forum? Since all the info are posted by us so you should not be asking us if all our info are "NO GOOD INFO"?

I think that is an insult to all the senior members on this board! "

If I ask you, is beacuse I think you know much more than I do. If I don´t find (and I say "I Don´t find", nor "there is not") any good info in the forum, I think I should say: maybe somebody already posted the info and can send me the link. Maybe somebody knows, but has forgotten to post. Maybe the info is so obvious that the people don´t even bother to post.

By the way: ". Us, if ALL our info are no good info". Did I ever say that ALL (and I stress ALL) your info was no good?

Anyway, I am really sorry and beg for forgiveness.

If anybody wants to add something, I´ll be more than pleased to hear.

Thank you all

Herr Pollon
01-29-06, 20:19
Maoming Road, especially Manhattan Bar, used to have them, haven't been there recently.THANK YOU very much, you really help me out, after a month here i was getting a little bit tired of the local Diet.

If you ever find any additional info about this type of girl, please tell me. I am just crazy about them.

Camieleke
01-29-06, 22:17
I stayed in the Hilton of Shanghai from the 26th of december till the 3 of january!
I have a very good experience with the Hilton.

Many times I brought my girlfriends up to my room without problem. Off course it is much more easier before 10pm then after but I allways managed it to bring them in!
The lobby sometimes is quiet crowdy so it is not so difficult to bring them in!

Around the hotel, all within 10 minutes walking you can find a lot of massage parlors and BBS.

Espacially the massage parlor almost in front of the hotel has nice girls.

One hour and a half for 150 Rmb with HJ! No FS!!

I also tried some BBS in Julu Lu (go out the hotel to the right and the first one to the left!) Some of them offer 3 girls, 100 each for massage and HJ!

Late in the evening you will find sometimes SW in front of the hotel.

Some freebies you can find on Hengshan Lu and Caoxi Beilu. Some nice bars there with a lot of girls.

I never had problems to find girls even during the day they sometimes ask you!

Nice city.

Adrenal
01-30-06, 00:26
I think this question is justifiable..... but as mentioned before... CNY... Shanghai can be a Desert!

I recalled my first CNY in Shanghai... walking in and out of severals Saunas wihtout any luck for any good girl. But I was lucky to pick up a Local Shanghainese from a local bar which became my Temp GF for 3 months.

I guess we have to depend on luck than...

Good luck!

ALL HAIL DARKMAN!!! :)

Ace Gallant
01-30-06, 01:36
Darkman2, my english might not be good enough, I didn´t meant to insult anybody, and even though I have re-readen my post, I don´t see where the insult is.

What I tried to say is that I read old posts and didn´t find any place in Shanghai where that particullary kind of girl could be found. I mean: I did my homework, I didn´t ask straight, but first I DID look for the info in the forum.

Some of the post I read are really old, more than a year. And they were not very specific (for example, "maybe or sometimes at hard rock cafe". Nothing like the info in beijing where they tell you to go to The Den, or Vics to find girls FOR SURE). That is what, at least for me, is not good info. (do you think such an unspecific info is good? ).

Anyway I apreciate that info, It might as good as it gets. Maybe the case that there is NO specific place for this girls; or at the moment, there aren´t any russian in shanghai. I just wanted to know if anybody could tell me something else.

DARMAN2

"Than why are you asking us on the forum? Since all the info are posted by us so you should not be asking us if all our info are "NO GOOD INFO"?

I think that is an insult to all the senior members on this board! "

If I ask you, is beacuse I think you know much more than I do. If I don´t find (and I say "I Don´t find", nor "there is not") any good info in the forum, I think I should say: maybe somebody already posted the info and can send me the link. Maybe somebody knows, but has forgotten to post. Maybe the info is so obvious that the people don´t even bother to post.

By the way: ". Us, if ALL our info are no good info". Did I ever say that ALL (and I stress ALL) your info was no good?

Anyway, I am really sorry and beg for forgiveness.

If anybody wants to add something, I´ll be more than pleased to hear.

Thank you all

A person who would spend so much time writting explaination above is sincere in in asking for forgiveness.

Therefore I grant you light:

I picked up a couple of Russians in SOHO not long ago. They are the "Friends" of the Russian Dancers. I did one of the Russian Dancer a year ago. My advise, if you have weak heart... don;t try the dancers.... because they are dancers, they have extremely good stamina and will fxxk you to death! Try their friends. I have not gone back their since Sept, not sure they are still there. I also done a middle eastern Dancer in M-Box (Not there anymore) but staff told me that they will be back from March this year. Again, same case! They fxxk the hell out of you!

I am not sure about other places in Shanghai that you can pick up Russians, may be CL or OAH or AP will know better.... Frankly if I want Russians, I take a flight up to Beijing or down to Macau. I can get the a line up of United Nations girls in Macau.

Cheers and Enjoy!

Ace Gallant
01-30-06, 01:43
Maoming Road, especially Manhattan Bar, used to have them, haven't been there recently.

You may be pleased to know that they are closing down Maoming Lu soon. With the departure of Babyface in Maoming Lu (Relocated to Shanghai Square) Maoming Lu is no longer that action pack nowadays.

However! Manhattan Bar, Woodstock, Judy's and couple of other bars have a double in Tong Ren lu. I used to see White girls (Likely Russians) walking in and out with guests from these bars. Have not tried them but I guess there must be some actions going one.

May be someone like to make a report on this? or someone like to try and report back?

I am off to USA for some CNY actions! Shanghai is too quiet during CNY period.

If not, I reckon I'll pop in for some "Investigations" after my return.

Cheers!

Arctic1
01-30-06, 07:41
a couple of weeks ago i stayed two nights at the center hotel, a four-star. this location was recommended by a non-mongering friend. a junior suite goes for 950 rmb per night. nice room with great features, but a stained carpet. this is getting to be one of my pet peeves, similar to a guy wearing a sharp suit with scuffed shoes. as the name suggests, it lies at the center of shanghai puxi. this hotel is the most non-gf i have ever encountered in china. no in-room massage. even in the hotel sauna, full-body massage is administered male-to-male. barbaric.

this was the first time i have ever had the chance to spend any leisure hours in shanghai. now i know why nanjing road is mentioned in the posts so often. i strolled around there one evening, approached by three different pairs of girls (who looked awfully young). without a reliable place to take them, i was not tempted.

i finally had to resort to an mp around the corner from the hotel (turn right outside the lobby, go one block and turn left, signage well lit). there are several mps in the area. this one was nothing fancy, apparently frequented mostly by locals. the mamasan was herself quite attractive, well-dressed, maybe middle 30s. she took me aside to understand my needs (fs and bj), but wanted 500 rmb upfront. i acquiesced since she had made such a good impression, and i was getting desperate. after the usual mp routine, i was joined in a room by tan na, 24-year-old from chongqing. tan na is a sweet girl, about 7+, with perfect c cups. she did not rush me, and a good time was had by all. i exchanged phone numbers with her for later.

the experience of a non-gf hotel in china was a new one for me. i intend to be much more careful in future lodging choices.

OldAsiaHand
01-30-06, 13:07
Darkman2:

I'm sorry I cannot be of much help on the subject in Shanghai. I've also found them in Beijing and Macau, as well as, Hong Kong, Singapore and even Bangkok.

Having said that, I did manage a freebie one time in Shanghai. I met her in a hotel bar.

OAH

Albert Punter
01-30-06, 13:17
Some time ago I was tired of the local diet too and made same question Herr Pollon made.

Actually I did not get much info, other than a PM with some numbers for russians servicing in apartments (lazy service in the opinion of the supplier of the info).

I agree with other mongers that Shanghai it is not the best place to meet other nationalities.


Herr Pollon,

I think this is the chance for you: start a research about how to get laid with russians (or western girls) and post here a full report.
Just to help you I will PM to you those phone numbers.

Bonzo1
01-30-06, 14:12
Open message to forum experts (suggestion)

There seems to be a few messages every few pages that either ask for information or tell someone to RTFF. Both are taking up a ton of space and annoying for frequent users of this forum to read.

Proposal - why don't we work on a solution? Does anyone know how to contact the forum host and suggest or even help with implementing a useable and useful search function? (the search function here is pointless -- terrible). That might solve a lot of these issues.

Hi Bonzo1,

1. You can contact me via the "Contact US" link at the bottom of every page of this website.

2. The forum's search feature is very powerful. Therefore, I am assuming that you are not using it correctly. Try using the advance search, and select the results to be displayed by posts, not threads.

3. If you want to write a China FAQ, I'd be pleased to post it in it's own thread. There are similar FAQ's for Thailand and the Dominician Republic.

Thanks,

Jackson

Herr Pollon
01-30-06, 14:38
Some time ago I was tired of the local diet too and made same question Herr Pollon made.

Actually I did not get much info, other than a PM with some numbers for russians servicing in apartments (lazy service in the opinion of the supplier of the info).

I agree with other mongers that Shanghai it is not the best place to meet other nationalities.

Herr Pollon,

I think this is the chance for you: start a research about how to get leaid with russians (or western girls) and post here a full report.

Just to help you I will PM to you those phone numbers.Thank you, Albert, that is exactly what I was thinking, I´ll go to SOHO this Thursday (no free time until then) and try to get me one of the dancers, or one of their friends.

Next week I´ll try to go to the Tong Ren lu area and call some of those numbers.

By the way, thank you very much for those numbers, They come very handy when, after hard work, you just want to relax in your own apartment. If anybody has more, I am making a collection for that report.

Paulb
01-30-06, 15:38
Has any one been to Baby Face at Shanghai square. Been to moaning Lu Baby face number of times great night out. Plent of hot girls off there faces great pick up place, great music. Is the new club bigger? Coming over next month to party.

TE=Darkman2]You may be pleased to know that they are closing down Maoming Lu soon. With the departure of Babyface in Maoming Lu (Relocated to Shanghai Square) Maoming Lu is no longer that action pack nowadays.

However! Manhattan Bar, Woodstock, Judy's and couple of other bars have a double in Tong Ren lu. I used to see White girls (Likely Russians) walking in and out with guests from these bars. Have not tried them but I guess there must be some actions going one.

May be someone like to make a report on this? or someone like to try and report back?

I am off to USA for some CNY actions! Shanghai is too quiet during CNY period.

If not, I reckon I'll pop in for some "Investigations" after my return.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Ace Gallant
01-31-06, 01:36
Has any one been to Baby Face at Shanghai square. Been to moaning Lu Baby face number of times great night out. Plent of hot girls off there faces great pick up place, great music. Is the new club bigger? Coming over next month to party.


If you search this thread on Babyface, I had posted a report on it.

Basically it is a great pickup place for Locals or non-locals who speak Mandarin or Shanghainese. If you don't speak the language, you have to try your luck or your best hit is to go there with someone who speak the language. I pick up freebies from there. The new place is much bigger, plently of local girls, I would not say the music is good.

Unfortunately I have to stop going back for a while because I ended up picking up a freebie that is a "friend" of another girl I picked up from there 2 months ago. I think these girls all know each other???

DK

Sweetkisser
01-31-06, 01:52
Baby Face II in Shanghai Plaza is a great pick-up place for freebies. Most girls are Chinese but I met Thai, Korean, Malay, Singaporean, and Kazaztanian there. If you want a table, the minimum is a bit much, 600 RMB minimum on Wednesday for a small round table by the dancefloor. A bottle of Absolut cost 450 RMB and a Jar of OJ was 150 RMB. There was no door fee. The new place is about 3 times the size of the one in Maoming Road but it is even more crowded. take 10minutes to get to toilet but that's because there were just so many good looking girls that I had to keep my eyes on.

Sweetkisser


Has any one been to Baby Face at Shanghai square. Been to moaning Lu Baby face number of times great night out. Plent of hot girls off there faces great pick up place, great music. Is the new club bigger? Coming over next month to party.

TE=Darkman2]You may be pleased to know that they are closing down Maoming Lu soon. With the departure of Babyface in Maoming Lu (Relocated to Shanghai Square) Maoming Lu is no longer that action pack nowadays.

However! Manhattan Bar, Woodstock, Judy's and couple of other bars have a double in Tong Ren lu. I used to see White girls (Likely Russians) walking in and out with guests from these bars. Have not tried them but I guess there must be some actions going one.

May be someone like to make a report on this? or someone like to try and report back?

I am off to USA for some CNY actions! Shanghai is too quiet during CNY period.

If not, I reckon I'll pop in for some "Investigations" after my return.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Ace Gallant
01-31-06, 01:59
A couple of weeks ago I stayed two nights at the Center Hotel, a four-star. This location was recommended by a non-mongering friend.

Interesting; this is the first time I heard of a 4-Star hotel in Shanghai that is GF unfriendly!

AT; did you tried to bring a Girl into the Hotel? Most hotel that is GF unfriendly only requires you to register your "guest" name before letting them in. This is to ensure the security of yourself as the guest. Some 5-Stars hotel even call your room to verify everything is ok (If you register your "guest") if the girls leave your room after 12 midnight. All these process is required if you bring the girl into the hotel after 10pm. However I found that most Hotels in Shanghai (Including 5-Stars) do not follow this rules.

I guess if you want to bring the girl in, you should bring her in before 10pm or just walk in straight without even bother about the Security. If they ask than tell him that she is your friend or co-worker. If he insist, than just register her name. Unlike Japan, Shanghai hotel do not charge extra if your single room is used by more than one person. The only important thing is: try to keep it quiet so that you do not disturb other guest which will invite unwanted complains.

DK

Gualtier Malde
01-31-06, 03:31
Bonzo1, for what it's worth, I've found the search function to be very useable and useful. It is far from "pointless -- terrible". What are some examples which have caused you trouble?

Another way to search, by the way, is to use the "See other posts by this member", which is a great way to see the past advice of those that you know have been prolific with information on the forum.

Jackson's advice regarding the advanced search is great if you have something more complex to express. But frankly, I've found that searching on simple terms (eg, "village" or "sauna") will get you good information on general topics fairly quickly and without too much noise. Of course, if you are using a web browser on a phone or on a dialup connection you might be frustrated, but otherwise it shouldn't be a problem.

It is also helpful to look at "Reports of Distinction" to find stuff that the members have generally held in high regard.

It seems that while you have been around a while, and on a couple of posts have demonstrated that you have a good knowledge of Shanghai, you haven't posted much in terms of reviews yourself. Perhaps you could help those poor searching souls by providing some more of your own excellent content! (And doing a Shanghai FAQ, or China FAQ is a great idea too!)

Happy mongering!



Open message to forum experts (suggestion)

There seems to be a few messages every few pages that either ask for information or tell someone to RTFF. Both are taking up a ton of space and annoying for frequent users of this forum to read.

Proposal - why don't we work on a solution? Does anyone know how to contact the forum host and suggest or even help with implementing a useable and useful search function? (the search function here is pointless -- terrible). That might solve a lot of these issues.

Hi Bonzo1,

1. You can contact me via the "Contact US" link at the bottom of every page of this website.

2. The forum's search feature is very powerful. Therefore, I am assuming that you are not using it correctly. Try using the advance search, and select the results to be displayed by posts, not threads.

3. If you want to write a China FAQ, I'd be pleased to post it in it's own thread. There are similar FAQ's for Thailand and the Dominician Republic.

Thanks,

Jackson

Xyzzys
01-31-06, 06:21
If someone is kind enough to PM me with numbers, I PROMISE to post back the results.

Thanks a bunch!

Xyzzy

Bonzo1
01-31-06, 08:46
Jackson and DavidXyzzy:

Thanks for the help and suggestions -- hope this helps others too. You are right that when you view by "reports" rather than "threads" (radio button at bottom of advanced search page) it is much better. I have also often used "view other posts by same member", which is a good feature, but not always the best way to search.

Other comments (anything after this I'll reply directly or in FAQ area):

Viewing by thread, as far as I can see, is useless since it just brings up the entire thread and simply highlights the search term (where it is present), i.e. it does not filter out non-related posts. Unfortunately the searches (advanced or simple) default to thread, and that wasn't very obvious/easy to find (for a simpleton like me, anyway).

Suggestions:

1. Change default to view by report (not thread)...or even better, add filter to thread results so it only presents reports that include search term (the thread display is actually better)

2. Add "Help" item in search drop down

Enough. I don't want to clog up this forum, but thought this would help all people here, and suspect we're all a bit burnt out on the ubiquitous (and oft' loquacious!) RTFF issue. Anything else we can chat about it a more appropriate forum or by PM.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=David Xyzzy 1]Bonzo1,

For what it's worth, I've found the search function to be very useable and useful. It is far from "pointless -- terrible". What are some examples which have caused you trouble?

Another way to search, by the way, is to use the "See other posts by this member", which is a great way to see the past advice of those that you know have been prolific with information on the forum.

Bonzo1
01-31-06, 09:04
Thanks to Davidxyz's suggestion, and to compensate for my long non-related posts, here's a review:

General listings/experiences of bars/clubs:

- Park 97: Great bar, flashy, "see and be seen" place. Some freebie opportunities, and perhaps some p4p from time to time, but better as a place to go with a friend or group and meet new people

- Dragon Club: late night place. I've had much better luck taking girls there (to continue the night) than meeting girls there. Seems to be some (or a lot?) of gay guys there too sometimes

- Zapatas: Best hook up place in Shanghai on Wed. nights. Think meat market. Both freebies and p4p available

- Bourbon Street: Fun place in a lot of ways. Kind of last resort for p4p's ... not that it's bad, it's not! And supply is ample. Just my feeling about the environment. I used to go there more when I first got to Shanghai, so maybe I should label it as a good starting place. note: negotiate hard there, especially before 1am when there's lots of options available.

- Mao ming lu and Tong ren lu are at least 50% p4p -- total trash spots, for the most part. Try Manhattan's on each street.

- Ju lu lu (near hilton hotel): never had good luck there, but maybe just too trashy for my tastes (most trashy in SH). If you like that kinda thing (some people have said they do), check it out. Open very late, and you're guaranteed p4p action there.

- Bar Rouge: I hate the damn management and service there, but otherwise the bar is quite nice and amazing view. Good for groups, IMHO. I have heard p4p has arrived in droves there, but no personal experience.

- Misc. I have found good luck mostly by just palling up with folks (girls or guys) and exploring. Been all over SH including places I don't even remember the names or locations of. Some of the best night started that way. My suggestion is don't overthink the options -- just go out and meet people and have fun -- things will develop naturally from there. It's a great town with a lot of fun people. If you have time, you are assured a lot of action here. If you don't have time, check out the listings above and stick to Bourbon Street, Zapatas, or the three streets I mentioned if that's your thing. For very low effort guaranteed fun, try either BBS's (extreme trash), massage places, or saunas.

Happy trails.

BJK
01-31-06, 14:29
Stayed at Tianlin hotel on Tianlin road in the south west part of the city.
Hotel sauna offered a complete course. First night was great girl, forgot where she was from but very good service. Next time I tried I had to wait a long time, in the end I was tired and the girl who eventually showed up was a 7 in looks but not my type so I declined and went to bed. Not sure how many girls were available but most had gone home for CNY including the girl I had on the first night. Cost was ~600 for the works.

I don't know if the hotel is girl friendly for bring your own.
Several police hang out in the lobby bar (after close) till all hours. Did not seem to be checking for anything and might just be to get out of the cold.

BJK

BJK
01-31-06, 14:50
I should know better...

Was hanging about near the Hilton when a respectable middle aged man in glasses came up and asked me if I was looking for a girl.

I would normally not go with touts but decided to just have a look.
Quoted price was 300.
Followed him to a karaoke bar. Had a selection of three girls of about 7 in rating which he said I could take back to hotel. Two spoke pretty good English and the third addressed me in Japanese. I though that to be a novel approach. Her Japanese was pretty much native level and could not discern an accent. She looked fairly Japanese but I guess she was actually Chinese or half and spent some time there.
Anyway I picked out Michelle one of the better English speakers and asked to take to my hotel naively thinking that was an option. Well a waiter comes in and want to take an order for drinks. I refused knowing this was most likely a rip off. The tout was adamant that I had to buy a beer to get the girl, as there had to be some profit for the manager. Knowing that one drink would end up costing more I declined.
Thinking with little head and wanting this great girl I then said to the tout that I would just pay the fee direct and forget about wasting time drinking beer. After a bit of thinking he agree and the price was 50 y the price for a beer. (Now why I thought that this type of place would settle for this much I don’t know) I give the money and the tout goes off to settle with the manager calling out “boss”, boss” after feigning he could not be found in one direction goes off in the other. After a minute I realise he is not coming back and this is the direction we came in. I follow where he went as does the girl. On reaching the front door the girl now also realises what has happened, she shrugs her shoulders and just says bye bye. What a sucker, at least it was not an expensive lesson.

BJK

BJK
01-31-06, 15:09
Found 2 BBS and 1 foyer of a karaoke lounge which operated as a BBS not as a KTV joint on Tianlin road. Can’t remember the cross street but it is towards Caobao subway station from the Tianlin hotel. They are just near the corner. Either HJ or HJ & BJ are available. FS did not seem an option except perhaps at the joint at the Tianlin hotel end, though never got an asking price for this.
Had BJ and HJ at this and the karaoke joint. Damage was 200 and 250 which was probably a little high. Payed 100 for HJ at the corner joint. The girl gave 40 y to the mama. Found a real cutie here so went back a few times. FS did not seem to be on offer or at least actively marketed. Cutie indicated the last time it could be on offer. The next time I went back wanting to take her out to the hotel. This was refused. Did not even get to negotiate $$$, not sure why she would refuse, I had good sessions with her where she would get off with my fingers in her pussy. It could be the hotel was not girl friendly and she knew it. None of the girls spoke any English so I never found out what the problem was.

BJK

BJK
01-31-06, 15:35
Went to a bar on the road opposite the Hilton. Had a sign saying "Date Bar" though it might have another name.
Business at all bars was very slow. There were 3 - 4 different girls and two other customers who were together. Drinks are 30Y, and 40Y for ladies drinks. Got to drink with Lily from Sichuan, nice girl with a bit of style.
Different from the HK bars I am used to with fake ladies drinks and the girls drinking them down fast and asking for another. Lily took her time and had two drinks to my three. She asked if I wanted sex as must be lonely but indicated that she was not available. She indicated some girls were available on the street. Later one came up the window. Lily asked if I was interested and as she was too old I declined. Lily then asked the girl to get some younger ones. After a few minutes Lily was surprised where more did not turn up as she said they usually did. In any case I left the bar a few minutes later. Indeed the SW seemed to have gone.

Came back the next day and got on well with Lily. In the end she agreed to meet after her shift. Met up in the early hours and had no trouble bringing her into my room at the Shanghai hotel on the opposite side of the block to the Hilton. She was an excellent talent and really got off on some DATY. Her BJ skill were not so hot and needed encouragement. Still with her hot from the DATY she was an excellent lay in various positions. Both went to sleep. In the morning she hurriedly got up and dressed and wanted to leave without further action. I suppose I could have insisted as I had not paid but the truth is I was tired myself. Therefore the 700Y I paid was a little expensive.

On the same night I had been approached by the previously missing SW on the same street. Asked 600 and eventually came down to 300. An older one came down to 200. Was very cold and not many customers. Lily was worth paying more but the fast exit left me thinking I should have tried the 300 option.

Other posts I have read indicate that more action might be available in some of the bars, but if you are just looking for a quiet drink with company then the "Date Bar" is a nice friendly place.

BJK

Camieleke
01-31-06, 17:07
Hi,

I stayed in the Shanghai Hilton from 27/12 till 03/01.

I was visiting some girl friends in Shanghai and to be honest I never had a problem to bring them to my room.

Notmally the lobby is very crowdy and I really don't know how they will control it?

Maybe after 10.30pm.

Concerning massage and BBS around the hotel!

In less then 10 minutes walk you can find a lot of BBS and massage parlours.

One and a half hour massage with hand job will cost you around 200RMB in the massage center almost opposite the Hilton.

I also find some BBS where I paid 300 RMB for 3 girls playing half an hour with my dick.

I enjoyed Shanghai very much!

C.

PassinThrough
02-01-06, 04:42
For those looking for Russian girls I was in Bourbon Street last night (Hengshan Road). There were a couple Russian girls wandering around looking for business. I would not rate them very high on appearance, I have seen some real stunners in Russia and these wouldn't have had a chance. The two I saw looked to be a bit older and maybe a 5 or 6/10 in my opinion. There were some stunning Chinese girls in there looking for friends.

If I see any more Russians I will post the information.

PIT

Shadowcrest
02-01-06, 18:01
I will be coming to Shanghai next week. This will be the first time there in 5 years. I am sure things have changed. I frequent Beijing and other small town in China. In Beijing, I always stay at the Hilton. It is girl friendly and they are either in the lobby or just a couple of blocks away.

I will stay at the Hilton in Shanghai.

In reading some of the Shanghai posts it looks like there is activity in the lobby and outside.

So you guys that know the hot spots within walking distance...let me know the scoop. I am not really into going to one of the bars...I like to find them on the street and negotiate from there.

Thanks!

Comrade 2255
02-02-06, 04:45
Is this some sort of Shanghai pickup forum?

http://www.jinti.com/439/99/

Ace Gallant
02-02-06, 04:51
Is this some sort of Shanghai pickup forum?

http://www.jinti.com/439/99/

Yes...it is a pick up forum...pickup for Real Food, listing of Restaurants, NOT Food for the Gods! Hahahaha

OK OK...jokes aside... it is like the Yellow Pages... who know you can search thu and find some "special services" under the Service section?

Albert Punter
02-02-06, 13:28
Basing on some recent post it seems that now Hilton is girl friendly, but it was not such in the past.

In order to find good companion for the night you can just go out of the hotel and look for streetwalkers walking up and down. Otherwise you can browse outside of the bars of Julu Lu, which is almost in front of Hilton (read some specific reports in the thread). No need to go in, girls will come to you.

Also, you can try BBS places which are available in almost all areas (just read in this thread).
In case you want to try something better than a std BBS, you may take a short stroll up to ZY Pub, which is at 1771 XinZha Lu (just read specific reports in this thread). Take away is available.

In case you change your mind and want to venture in bar scene, besides Julu Lu, you can head to Xin Tian Di area or other areas bars. Wide choice of freebies/pros is available there, particularly on ladies night, as follows:
Tue - M-Zone, 88 Tong Ren Lu
Wed - Zapata's, 5 Heng Shan Lu or Dragon Club 156 Fenyang Lu
Thu - Madam Zung, 4 Xiang Shan Lu
Fri - Salt & Pepper , 146 Tong Ren Lu
Sat - Mural, 697 Yongjia Lu, near Heng Shan Lu
(this list was updated some time ago and may not be accurate).

BJK
02-02-06, 14:57
On my recent Shanghai trip I came across a place that offers some different services from the usual.
From the outside I could discern it was some sort of massage place as there was some pictures. There was no English sign but I decided to try anyway and see what it offered.
Was offered a menu in English but could not understand most of the translations. Seem they had used a computer translation. It looked like health type massages for various parts of the body. One was clear, as had additional handwritten translation of “dick massage” at 218Y for one hour. I didn’t have to think too much before choosing this. The next odd thing was I was asked if I would like a man or lady to do the massage, WTF, of course a lady!
I was then led to the shower / sauna area. On having a shower one of the male attendants came up and soaped up my back, WTF again! Anyway he backed off when indicated that it was not required. After that was led to a room with the typical massage bed. A mid twenties girl attends; she is dressed in uniform that looks like a hotel reception, dark grey/black with collar. I wasn’t sure if she was the masseur or not, turns out she was. Initially I made out to lie on my stomach thinking it would start with a back massage. She indicates no, just lie on my back and after arranging her lotions and potions gets right down to business on the massage as per the description in the menu, dick, balls and arse for an hour. She was careful not to over stimulate and kept me from shooting my load the entire time. Apparently this is some sort of health massage and doesn’t offer sex type massage. Maybe I got it wrong and ordered the wrong thing on the menu, anyone to confirm?

After I was finished there I went across the road where the BBS I mentioned in the earlier are located for the finish treatment.

The address of this joint is 2F 360 Tianlin Rd (E) Xuhui SH
If you read Chinese maybe you can make out the full list of services on their web site 51wxt.com

BJK

Shadowcrest
02-02-06, 16:05
Thanks for the advice. I will let you know how it turns out.

Herr Pollon
02-02-06, 19:55
Today was the day, I decided to go for some russian action. But something made me change my mind.

I met with a friend at megabite (near Hong Kong plaza) in Huaihai for dinner, I was about to ask him if he wanted to join my little excursion to the russain area, when I made eye contact with the most voluptous girl I've seen in shanghai, she was chinese but (I must reckon I am not an expert in chinese ethnicities, and sometimes I take japas or koreans for chinese) she looks somehow diferent.

Anyway I kept trying to filrt from the distance (she was alone); after a short while me and my friend splited up, I came back to the restaurant and found her leaving, at the door.

Her english was pretty good (at least for me, I am not a native speaker) and we decided to go to my aptarment. At this moment I wasn´t sure of what she wanted, we hadn´t spoke about prices or anything, only about finding a dry place. Well as soon as we arrived things turned hot pretty fast, we agreed in 1200 (yes, yes I know. Too much but don´t call me stupit yet) for 2 hrs including oral without.

Pretty good service, nice hands (not going too far with the fingers, I don´t like that), good oral, and the best part: some sex position which I can only describe as "froggy style"; it sounds funny, but you should try.

She stayed for more than two hours (I think close to three actually), don´t know if she liked sex (I was nasty today) but for sure she DID like the chatting. The bad part is: I forgot to ask her number (now, you can call me stupid) neither she renemberd to gie it to me (how unprofessonal).

Well, for me that´s a new record: never found a girl before in such an odd place.

Gualtier Malde
02-02-06, 20:23
AP's advice was correct. I would like to add a couple of things.

Last time I was in the bar on the top floor of the Hilton, there were several stunning pros working the place. Two were caucasian blonds at the bar. Actually I don't know if they were pros, but they were definitely on the hunt. If I hadn't been with colleagues I would have checked them out.

The downside of mongering from that bar is the expense. Also, I have not seen action in the lobby.

There are usually SWs along the sidewalk near the Hilton after about 9pm. Go left out of the Hilton toward the Equatorial. There is an area of benches that several work from. Be careful though, I've had my share of rip offs from there. Be sure to negotiate services up front, and do not pay until they deliver. If they complain, kick them out! They are rip off artists!

There used to be a couple of BBSs on Ju Lu Lu, but the last time I strolled, they appear to have been closed. There are others in the general neighborhood though.

The ladies outside the bars along Ju Lu Lu will definitely come to you, but most likely they will want you to come in the bar. However, later in the evening, there will be SWs along JuLu Lu, and especially in the area around the intersection of JuLu Lu and Hua Shan Lu (the street in front of the Hilton). I've seen some cuties at that intersection later in the evening. However, I've not taken one of that particular batch home, so I can't tell you much about rip off versus quality. Hey, they are SWs. You take your chances.

Avoid the tout that will certainly approach you in front of the Hilton offering girls. You can do much much better on your own.

One of the little bars across the street will offer HJs upstairs. It is the last one along the row to the right as you face them from the Hilton before you get to the restaurant and the massage place. They will charge you something like 200RMB, but as I recall this may include a couple of drinks. In any case, you can probably do much better, but if you are looking for a variety of Shanghai experiences, you could try this one if you don't want to walk all the way to the ZY Pub (which I do recommend just for the uniqueness of it).

The massage place reportedly will give you a full massage with hand release for 200RMB. I haven't tried it yet.

I am told that the Shanghai Hotel, just behind the Hilton, offers a full sauna with red rope treatment. I intend to verify this on my next trip in a couple of weeks.

Feel free to PM me if you happen to be there the week of Feb 13 and want to have a beer.

David


I will be coming to Shanghai next week. This will be the first time there in 5 years. I am sure things have changed. I frequent Beijing and other small town in China. In Beijing, I always stay at the Hilton. It is girl friendly and they are either in the lobby or just a couple of blocks away.

I will stay at the Hilton in Shanghai.

In reading some of the Shanghai posts it looks like there is activity in the lobby and outside.

So you guys that know the hot spots within walking distance...let me know the scoop. I am not really into going to one of the bars...I like to find them on the street and negotiate from there.

Thanks!

OldAsiaHand
02-02-06, 20:49
Years ago, when I was a China newbie, ignorant, and did not know about the ISG forum, I stayed at the Hilton and did a girl from the top floor bar. The best I could negotiate was 800 RMB ST, but she started at US$200 if I remember correctly. I wonder how much they are getting nowadays up there.

OAH

Traveler1234
02-02-06, 21:20
Looks like I'll be visiting for a couple of days, around end of month, 27th to 28th. PM if you want to get together....like to meet up with some of the old senior mongers if around.

Ace Gallant
02-02-06, 23:36
Years ago, when I was a China newbie, ignorant, and did not know about the ISG forum, I stayed at the Hilton and did a girl from the top floor bar. The best I could negotiate was 800 RMB ST, but she started at US$200 if I remember correctly. I wonder how much they are getting nowadays up there.

OAH

I support OAH, the key to his messenge was: "Years ago, when I was a China newbie, ignorant, and did not know about the ISG forum"

Below is my opinion for the newbies:

The problems with girls hanging around in 5 star hotels or up market places is that they tend to over price themselve, thinking that people from these hotel do not know places, do not want to wander out and are rich enough to afford the price. I cannot doubt that staying in 5-stars hotel means we are a little better off in cash flow but money in our own pocket is better than money in others pocket, why do we have to over pay for the same product?

I hate to say this but, in my past experiences; a pussy is a pussy, there are no difference between a girl found in 5-Stars hotel bars and a girl found for 30RMB in Guangzhou BBS. With the exception if the pussy is a virgin. But how many virgins will you come across hanging around to sell themselve in 5-Stars hotel bars?

Some monger may argue that the services you get for paying is different. I agree partially, my expeirences are, the best services you get are from girls who wants to hook on to you for some other purposes; eg, Help them get a VISA out of China, be their sugar daddy. In these cases; you might be better off get them for free on the second time onwards! As you may read my previous postings; Getting Freebie is easy, but the problem is getting rid of them! IMHO: The rest of girls offering such services: "You cum and go!". They are more eager to let you out in the shortest time so they can go off to find another customer!

To conclude; If a monger overpaid for the girls, it is either they do not RTFF or they are just plain ignorant (not a member of ISF) or both.

Gualtier Malde
02-03-06, 01:25
I couldn't agree with you more. Those girls in the hotel know they have you in a weak negotiating position - the odds are strong you don't know or care about the local rates, and also there is the "bird in the hand versus two in the bush" situation. The girl in the bar is here, now, cute, and probably rubbing herself against you. The "better deal" is somewhere out there, perhaps a taxi ride away, in the cold, etc.

Best thing to do is to tell the mamasan (there always seems to be one hovering at the hotel bar) that you aren't interested in those inflated prices, and were just about to go find a local cutie on the local economy. Maybe she'll cut you a deal, but probably not, unless you are the only suc^H^H^Hcustomer in the bar.

Since I tend to spend a little time in the hotel bar and see the mamasan a couple of times each trip, I'm planning to get to know her better, maybe buy her a drink, and form a little social relationship. I never take her girls, but it might be fun just to get to know the mamasan. Who knows where such a thing might lead. Nothing like planting seeds for a future harvest, who knows?

But the bottom line is, unless you just have no patience at all, and have no respect for cash, avoid the hotel bar ladies. Never accept their US Dollar proposals.


I support OAH, the key to his messenge was: "Years ago, when I was a China newbie, ignorant, and did not know about the ISG forum"

Below is my opinion for the newbies:

The problems with girls hanging around in 5 star hotels or up market places is that they tend to over price themselve, thinking that people from these hotel do not know places, do not want to wander out and are rich enough to afford the price. I cannot doubt that staying in 5-stars hotel means we are a little better off in cash flow but money in our own pocket is better than money in others pocket, why do we have to over pay for the same product?

I hate to say this but, in my past experiences; a pussy is a pussy, there are no difference between a girl found in 5-Stars hotel bars and a girl found for 30RMB in Guangzhou BBS. With the exception if the pussy is a virgin. But how many virgins will you come across hanging around to sell themselve in 5-Stars hotel bars?

Some monger may argue that the services you get for paying is different. I agree partially, my expeirences are, the best services you get are from girls who wants to hook on to you for some other purposes; eg, Help them get a VISA out of China, be their sugar daddy. In these cases; you might be better off get them for free on the second time onwards! As you may read my previous postings; Getting Freebie is easy, but the problem is getting rid of them! IMHO: The rest of girls offering such services: "You cum and go!". They are more eager to let you out in the shortest time so they can go off to find another customer!

To conclude; If a monger overpaid for the girls, it is either they do not RTFF or they are just plain ignorant (not a member of ISF) or both.

Ace Gallant
02-03-06, 03:07
Since I tend to spend a little time in the hotel bar and see the mamasan a couple of times each trip, I'm planning to get to know her better, maybe buy her a drink, and form a little social relationship. I never take her girls, but it might be fun just to get to know the mamasan. Who knows where such a thing might lead. Nothing like planting seeds for a future harvest, who knows?

Yes, David, been friends with Mamasan have a good advantage, she tends to "Reserve" better girls for you and cut you a better deal. But don't expect to get exceptionally low prices because remember; they also live on a big part of your money. So if your total price is low their commission is low too.

What I found about mamasan is, once you get to know them, they will also "understand your needs" and recommends the correct girls or find the the correct girls for you. You don't have to leave the hotel, they will do the calling and the girls arrive there for you. I also use mamasan for days which I am very horny. When I need more than one girl to satisfy my needs or days when I feel like I want to party. Mamasan loves to cut deals where there are many girls to one customer. Again in this case, she makes a lot of commission as a whole because remember; now she don't have to run around looking for a few customers for the few girls she have, one customer and she sold out all her products!

Actually all the rules of a normal salesmanship applies, I hate to mention this but; Just treat these girls as products, you wouldn't want to pay more than the actual value and you wouldn't buy if you do not have the need or do not like the product (Looks, etc).

Last advice: Don't let Alcohol and your small head affect your decisions! Be cool, if this product is over price and you are not in "love" with her, there are some other better models or similar product out there!

Cheers and happy mongering!

Porn1437
02-03-06, 10:00
I will going to Shanghai on this coming 9FEB2006. It is my first time trip to shangai and will going to stay in Pudong Conference Exhibition Hotel. Does anyone here know where could i get a nice service and pretty girl over there? and could i get a western or russion girl there? where is the most happening shop i should try it out? and roughtly how much it will cost for a night service?

Thanks!

Albert Punter
02-03-06, 13:22
Well, actually being friends with mamasan may have another advantage: you may end up f**king her for free !

As usual, just joking ;-)

Otherwise, I agree with you.

Ace Gallant
02-03-06, 13:39
Well, actually been friends with mamasan may have another advantage: you may end up f**king her for free !

As usual, just joking ;-)

Otherwise, I agree with you.

Hahaha.... My experience is that mamasan is usually older women around late 30 or 40s... I wouldn't f**k an old goat like her...hahaha....

AP you are a real joker! Like your joke!

But you are right, when I am in Beijing, I know a so called "Mamasan" ...she is only 25! the best part is, one evening all the girls I liked did not want to do LT, so mamasan ended up doing LT for the price of ST for me!

We went out dinner everytime I am in Beijing and she come over my hotel to sleep after closing time at about 3am... (I usually stay at a hotel near where she conduct her business) and guess what? Free F**K. (That's the way she pay for using my hotel!)... ;-)

David, good luck with Mamasan!

Adrenal
02-03-06, 14:54
Well, I went back to a local sauna about 2-3 km from ZhongSan Park. Red Ribbon 1.5 hr. Food included. Nice facilities.

Its normally 800 or more, but we get a special deal of 600. Quality wise I think it is comparable to the 800-1000 places.

Thing is that I have never seen westerners there.

Maybe we can setup a group outing among some Sr. Members in a week or so.

Traveler1234
02-03-06, 15:30
Well, I went back to a local sauna about 2-3 km from ZhongSan Park. Red Ribbon 1.5 hr. Food included. Nice facilities.

Its normally 800 or more, but we get a special deal of 600. Quality wise I think it is comparable to the 800-1000 places.

Thing is that I have never seen westerners there.

Maybe we can setup a group outing among some Sr. Members in a week or so.

I should be there end of month or latest first few days of March.....PM or post if you get a group together.

OldAsiaHand
02-03-06, 17:06
I used to do two BBS mamasans in Shenzhen regularly. Although I did not give them any money, they cost me much more than their girls. First of all, they would not do me in their apartments. I had to take them to a 5-star hotel. Second, they would not settle for a bowl of noodles for dinner. I had to take them to a nice restaurant. And finally, they would not shop at Walmart. You can imagine the rest. To top it off, they would not let me do any of their girls after I was involved with them. Not worth it in the long run.

Just my POV

OAH

Shadowcrest
02-03-06, 17:28
It looks like I need to a 2 day road trip to another new place: Xuhou. Northwest of Shanghai. Does anyone have any information on this place?

Gualtier Malde
02-03-06, 18:45
Hahaha.... My experience is that mamasan is usually older women around late 30 or 40s... I wouldn't f**k an old goat like her...hahaha....


HAAA HA HA!!!!! But she'd fuck and old goat like you!!!!!! :-) HA HAAAA HAAA!!!

Just teasing you Darkman!

This old goat will let you know how things work out with "my" mamasan.

David

Gualtier Malde
02-03-06, 18:50
"We" get a special deal? Do we say we are from the ISG? :-) I've never paid 800-1000 for a full service (red rope, etc.) sauna. Where in the world have you gone where they charged those prices? I usually pay anywhere from 600-650, I've never been charged more than that.

Do you have a street address? I'd like to give it a try next time I'm out.

David


Well, I went back to a local sauna about 2-3 km from ZhongSan Park. Red Ribbon 1.5 hr. Food included. Nice facilities.

Its normally 800 or more, but we get a special deal of 600. Quality wise I think it is comparable to the 800-1000 places.

Thing is that I have never seen westerners there.

Maybe we can setup a group outing among some Sr. Members in a week or so.

Adrenal
02-03-06, 23:54
What I mean by usually 800+ is this is a place that you actually want to use the facilities...

e.g. The showers are darn nice. The shower room boys will ask you to turn around and help dry you while you are also drying yourself. There is an actual deep pool sauna which is worth soaking in for 30-40 minutes if you are inclined. The beds aren't rickety and there are mirrors on the wall, etc.

Sorry, by "we" I was refering to some of my friends.

Anyways, its on ZunYi road near TianSan road

Gualtier Malde
02-04-06, 00:04
Hmm. Da Tang Yu Jing, which has been written about extensively here and which I have had the pleasure of visiting, is very clean, with attentive staff and nice facilities. They only charge 650. The ones with lesser quality have tended to charge below 650. I think the going rate is generally 550 - 700.

I do think that if you are paying 800 or more you are paying too much.

David


What I mean by usually 800+ is this is a place that you actually want to use the facilities...

e.g. The showers are darn nice. The shower room boys will ask you to turn around and help dry you while you are also drying yourself. There is an actual deep pool sauna which is worth soaking in for 30-40 minutes if you are inclined. The beds aren't rickety and there are mirrors on the wall, etc.

Sorry, by "we" I was refering to some of my friends.

Anyways, its on ZunYi road near TianSan road

Adrenal
02-04-06, 02:26
Nah this place is called Yu Ping.
Also the address is different.
448 ZunYi road.

The showers changing rooms suana resting rooms everything are on the first floor. The extras room is on the second floor.

While doing a quick search, it seems that some other members mentioned this place back in Sept 2005. My apologies.

Gualtier Malde
02-04-06, 04:06
Ah yes, Yu Ping. It has been well discussed here.

You should try Da Tang Yu Jing, which is also in that general part of town - well, it's west anyway, not as south as Yu Ping I think. I haven't been to Yu Ping, but you might find Da Tang Yu Jing to be at least comparable. Others in the forum who have tried both may want to comment.

I'll stick by the pricing comments though. Try to keep them down below 700RMB.

David


Nah this place is called Yu Ping.
Also the address is different.
448 ZunYi road.

The showers changing rooms suana resting rooms everything are on the first floor. The extras room is on the second floor.

While doing a quick search, it seems that some other members mentioned this place back in Sept 2005. My apologies.

Adrenal
02-04-06, 12:46
I'm quite happy with Yu Ping. Even at CNY, there were 10+ girls to choose from and at time before there were 20s. And its 600RMB.

Hopefully someone can chime in and say why Yu Jing is different flavor or better...and worth a try.

Adrenal
02-04-06, 12:47
So regarding the BBS always around. I haven't been through there in the Shanghai winter.

Is it d*mn cold in the back? So cold that you want to be out in 15 mins or so?
I hate this cold so much that I think about going to the Saunas just to avoid the cold.

Gualtier Malde
02-04-06, 22:18
I was in one last month and had no problem with the temperature in the shop. I guess it would depend on the particular BBS. Darkman might have a better sense of it in general.

David


So regarding the BBS always around. I haven't been through there in the Shanghai winter.

Is it d*mn cold in the back? So cold that you want to be out in 15 mins or so?
I hate this cold so much that I think about going to the Saunas just to avoid the cold.

Ace Gallant
02-05-06, 01:00
I was in one last month and had no problem with the temperature in the shop. I guess it would depend on the particular BBS. Darkman might have a better sense of it in general.

David

Those bigger BBS will have heating in the backrooms. But those small cheap ones will not spend extra buck for you to feel comfortable; remember their objective is to get in you there, let you out as quickly as possible.

Enjoy the cold!

Adrenal
02-05-06, 09:08
Hahaha.... My experience is that mamasan is usually older women around late 30 or 40s... I wouldn't f**k an old goat like her...hahaha....

AP you are a real joker! Like your joke!

But you are right, when I am in Beijing, I know a so called "Mamasan" ...she is only 25! the best part is, one evening all the girls I liked did not want to do LT, so mamasan ended up doing LT for the price of ST for me!

We went out dinner everytime I am in Beijing and she come over my hotel to sleep after closing time at about 3am... (I usually stay at a hotel near where she conduct her business) and guess what? Free F**K. (That's the way she pay for using my hotel!)... ;-)

David, good luck with Mamasan!

Do you usually let them stay overnight and after you leave? I mean for me, I have to leave in the morning by 8 am or so and feel weird having to kick them out at 8 am when I leave. I feel its really risky to let them stay when I am not in the room. thoughts?

Ace Gallant
02-05-06, 10:00
Do you usually let them stay overnight and after you leave? I mean for me, I have to leave in the morning by 8 am or so and feel weird having to kick them out at 8 am when I leave. I feel its really risky to let them stay when I am not in the room. thoughts?

Not really, it depends which girl, for the mamasan in Beijing, I did once let her stayed in the hotel room when I left at 8:30am and back at at lunch time, she is still sleeping when I am back. Because I know her for a while, but I would not do that for some other girls that I do not know well.

You are right, it is not safe to leave them in the room when you are not around. And especially if you have other stuff like your Notebook computers, passports in your hotel room.

But it is perfectly all right to kick them out when you leave, just make it clear to them when they come over that you have to leave at 8am.

Also for places like Zhuhai, I don't even think about letting them alone too long even if you are in the showers! She might even let some robbers in while you are not watching!

Be safe!

Albert Punter
02-05-06, 15:37
Sorry if I use the forum to reply a PM but this is what appears on my computer when I try to reply: Visi001 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

This was his question:

I enjoyed your posts a lot. It seems you know the city well. I am wondering if you happen to know any suana near Xin Tian Di or People's Square area that offers full service? I checked with David and he said you might have a better idea for this area of the city.
Thanks.

This is my answer:

Sorry but I cannot be of help as I never went to a sauna here in Shanghai.
I just do not like bathing and massage.
I am sure that reading the forum you will find a lot of saunas.
Then try to identify where they are located.

Maybe some other member can help him

Albert Punter
02-05-06, 15:50
I never leave a girl alone in my place.

When they stay overnight, I set the alarm early so that we can have more fun before breakfast and then kick them out whenever it is convenient for me.

When for some reason I go shower/toilet, coming back I discretely check my wallet, watch, etc. .

Traveler1234
02-05-06, 16:23
Do you usually let them stay overnight and after you leave? I mean for me, I have to leave in the morning by 8 am or so and feel weird having to kick them out at 8 am when I leave. I feel its really risky to let them stay when I am not in the room. thoughts?

Haven't done any overnights for a couple of years but even with ST, when we get back to the room, EVERYTHING goes into the safe deposit box except for condoms and maybe mobile phone. Not that I don't trust the girls but why leave temptation out in the open.

Years back, I'd often let them call room service for breakfast if I had an early breakfast meeting in the hotel....but I wouldn't do this nowadays.

When she leaves, open up my box, pay her and hit the sack.

Uk Blokey
02-05-06, 20:17
I am due to meet some suppliers on a business trip to Kunshan (just north of Shanghai) in late september.

I cannot find any mention of Kunshan in this forum - can anyone offer advice on what is available in Kunshan ?

Many thanks !

Wolf
02-06-06, 02:39
visi001,

If youy are looking for a sauna + massage + leg massage next to Xin Tian Di, then you have to go on Hua Hai Zhong Lu, up to Lane Crawford (by Long Men Lu).
In front of Lane Crawford, on the opposite side of the street, you have the Golden Bell Plaza.
On the 8th floor, you have a high class sauna where you will get a HJ.
Price is about Rmb 900 if I remember well.
On the 7th floor they have a high class Karaoke.

This place is about 6mn walking distance from heart of Xin Tian Di.

Enjoy

The Wolf



This was his question:

I enjoyed your posts a lot. It seems you know the city well. I am wondering if you happen to know any suana near Xin Tian Di or People's Square area that offers full service? I checked with David and he said you might have a better idea for this area of the city.
Thanks.

Maybe some other member can help him

A-Todd
02-06-06, 05:15
BJK, thanks for the report, always nice to read about some new places. After some years in Shanghai I’m always happy when I get some recommendations for a new place to visit.

This particular place seems like it mostly cater for men who likes to have a massage from a man. (Just have a look at http://www.51wxt.com/employee.htm) even though they have some girls there as well.) Checked with a Chinese friend of mine and he confirmed my suspicions.

Maybe we ought to issue a small warning for this place.
I like to check out new places, but think I’ll give this one a miss.

Cheers
/T


On my recent Shanghai trip I came across a place that offers some different services from the usual.

The address of this joint is 2F 360 Tianlin Rd (E) Xuhui SH
If you read Chinese maybe you can make out the full list of services on their web site 51wxt.com

BJK

BJK
02-06-06, 07:18
A-Todd
Seeing the employee list does not make me want to go back. I think at least 3 or 4 to 1 guys to girls

As I was asked if I wanted man or lady massage I knew the place was odd, but seeing the ratio of male employee to female is a little loaded to the wrong side to feel comfortable there again. At the time I went I totally ignored the number of male workers in the locker rooms and sauna area. You know how it is in the regular sauna, lots of guys to give you towel etc and at first when going to sauna it was disconcerting but you get used to it and ignore them. Now I know their likely persuasion I would not feel comfortable

BJK

FrenchK
02-06-06, 09:07
Hi,

I am in Shanghai for 2 days, any peoples can tell me where I can get a good massage with very pretty lady like in Macau?

Or where I can get freebies lady for the night?

Thanks

FrenchK
02-06-06, 10:24
Sorry guys, if you ask me about HK I can show you around and indicate you the best addresses but before this year I was not able to travel specaily for mongering, so now I have to travel more and needed some friendly advices from experienced monger (was my first time in philippines and second time in Shanghai), now I am in shanghai staying in a hotel in Huaihai Road so anyone can kindly indicated me a good place around there? Massage parlor?

Mmany thanks for your understanding.

Mianbao
02-06-06, 15:07
I have been to this place about 7 or 8 times but have not posted as it has been covered here a few times already.

Have usually had a great time there, it is over priced compared to what you can get in a BBS however the girls attitudes and service quality made up for it.

It was going well last night too until I agreed to a double act. From this point on they lost my business. Despite my requests not to, I got the hand treatment rather than BJ from the second girl after only about a minute, while the first girl only really succeeded in blocking the view (again despite my requests for her to sit up). The session therefore ended very quickly, and certainly a lot sooner than I had expected for the RMB700 price for the two of them. If I wanted a HJ I would have gone to a BBS and paid less than RMB100!

I complained to the mamasan who offered lots of apologies but nothing else. I was willing to go there while I thought the high price was a reasonable guarantee of value for money, but not any more.

Ace Gallant
02-07-06, 01:56
Hi,

I am in Shanghai for 2 days, any peoples can tell me where I can get a good massage with very pretty lady like in Macau?

Or where I can get freebies lady for the night?

Thanks

"Hello Mongering information helpdesk.... how can I help you?"

Frenchk; you posted the same question on this thread a few weeks ago and the rude answers you get from everyone was: "RTFF"

Looks like you did not even read the answers back than!

There are a lot of posting on places to go around Huaihai lu area. You should narrow down your question to which perticular place on the posting by now.

Ace Gallant
02-07-06, 02:00
I have been to this place about 7 or 8 times but have not posted as it has been covered here a few times already.

Have usually had a great time there, it is over priced compared to what you can get in a BBS however the girls attitudes and service quality made up for it.

It was going well last night too until I agreed to a double act. From this point on they lost my business. Despite my requests not to, I got the hand treatment rather than BJ from the second girl after only about a minute, while the first girl only really succeeded in blocking the view (again despite my requests for her to sit up). The session therefore ended very quickly, and certainly a lot sooner than I had expected for the RMB700 price for the two of them. If I wanted a HJ I would have gone to a BBS and paid less than RMB100!

I complained to the mamasan who offered lots of apologies but nothing else. I was willing to go there while I thought the high price was a reasonable guarantee of value for money, but not any more.

As I said before, I don't believe in their price. They are going at cut thoat price! 700 for 2 girls to do HJ? Man... you got ripped off big time!

Great that you posted this info so that everyone is warned of this rip off bar!

But I do believe was it AP and David who had good experiences in this bar?

I had not tried it but I vow to try out the local negotiation with MMSan

Gualtier Malde
02-07-06, 03:32
Here's what I think: ZY is more expensive than a BBS, that's for sure. It is about double. I think basically you are paying for comfort (you can sit at a bar and have a drink with your lady before and after) and to a degree, quality (the ladies do generally seem to deliver well). The latter point is certainly debatable, and I'm sure Darkman, Tripper and Santa have had high quality BBS encounters for much less. But the comfort factor certainly applies.

I think two ladies are generally a ripoff. Certainly I have not received 2x the value at ZY Pub, though my 2 lady experience was much better than the other poster. I did get a BJ from one while the other let me do whatever I wanted with her naked body. They didn't fake a BJ and give a HJ instead. (I should further say that I've found 2 lady encounters of any type in Shanghai to be a ripoff.)

But I think for maximum economy, just go with one lady at ZY, and if you have the urge, get another round with the second lady. Don't do them both at once, unless you just want to splurge (ie, spend too much) to be buried in two bodies.

I think ZY Pub is cool, but it is not likely to be everyone's taste. If a BBS is a cigarette, then ZY Pub is more like a cheap cigar. (A KTV girl might be more like an expensive cigar - you pay a lot more, but you may just end up with more smoke and hot air...).

David


As I said before, I don't believe in their price. They are going at cut thoat price! 700 for 2 girls to do HJ? Man... you got ripped off big time!

Great that you posted this info so that everyone is warned of this rip off bar!

But I do believe was it AP and David who had good experiences in this bar?

I had not tried it but I vow to try out the local negotiation with MMSan

Wolf
02-07-06, 03:36
FrenchK,

Do yourself a favor and read a few lines down your own post. You will find an answer I gave to Visi001 regarding a massage/sauna place on Hua Hai Lu.
But have you read it ??? Have you only see it ?
You see, this is exactly what sometines irritates other posters here....
Understand ?

I am glad to read that you can exchange favor for HK.
I invite you therefore to post on the HK Forum where I am impatient to read you.

As for the rest of your quest in Shanghai, just use the damned search function : enter what you search and click go. You will be amazed on what and how much you can find. Key words can be : Massage, Sauna, etc...
In last rescue, try to read my previous posts. Most of them are regarding sauna places.

Enjoy

The Wolf


Sorry guys, if you ask me about HK I can show you around and indicate you the best addresses but before this year I was not able to travel specaily for mongering, so now I have to travel more and needed some friendly advices from experienced monger (was my first time in philippines and second time in Shanghai), now I am in shanghai staying in a hotel in Huaihai Road so anyone can kindly indicated me a good place around there? Massage parlor?

Mmany thanks for your understanding.

Dewdrops
02-07-06, 04:12
I have a fetish for pregnant babes

I checked out some BBS in shanghai and 1 had a girl. She did a HJ for me went there next time and she had gone

Anyone knows where to find one not for a FS, of course in this condition, but just HJ or BJ.

anyone met/saw any anywhere?

age looks dont matter

Tiger 888
02-07-06, 04:54
Thats China, it is a rule. Also in normal business. Everybody makes mistakes, and a sorry comes out Quickly. But the one who pays is always the stupid foreigner.
Unless you can force money out of them if your business is big enough (The mamasan was surely not aware of your power to post the experience).
I even tried a few legal cases. A complete waste of good money been thrown after the bad money.
I have the feeling that the word responsibility has not got into many heads in china so far. Exceptions are there of course.

Ace Gallant
02-07-06, 06:25
Thats China, it is a rule. Also in normal business. Everybody makes mistakes, and a sorry comes out Quickly. But the one who pays is always the stupid foreigner.
Unless you can force money out of them if your business is big enough (The mamasan was surely not aware of your power to post the experience).
I even tried a few legal cases. A complete waste of good money been thrown after the bad money.
I have the feeling that the word responsibility has not got into many heads in china so far. Exceptions are there of course.

I've been doing business with Chinese in China for over 20 years; word of advise: "Right Connections"

With the correct connections you will get what you want. It does not matter whether you know the law well or whether you have lots of money, without the correct connections, your time and money will be wasted.

Tiger 888
02-07-06, 07:27
Yes of course you are right. That is another way to force money out of them. It is exactly what I am talking about. I didn't mention it, since the originating problem was a cheat in a bar, or better the mama not taking responsibility for lacking service of her girls.

Adrenal
02-07-06, 08:57
Well it turns out that I am leaving Shanghai for a bit. Anyone back in town and want to do a Sr. Member catacomb / village / hunt or something tomorrow or Th. night? PM me.

Adrenal
02-07-06, 08:57
I'll be at YuPing tonight.

I also realize its a little cold, but we can get some "bai jiu" to take the chill off.

Blacklisted
02-07-06, 10:43
Report:
Around 360 Tianlin Rd East. (opposite side) BBS (as mentioned by BLK)

Checked out the two BBS this afternoon. May have been too early, (4pm) but things were happening. There is one on the corner with two red statues in front and one a few doors down which has a kind of wooden look.

The corner: A couple of cuties waving as I went by, and one caught my eye. Went up to find nice small sectional rooms. This is an upmarket BBS, and the prices reflect this. As BLK pointed out, the price is 100 for HJ, yet the skill of the girl I met was excellent and the skirt lifted with little prompting at all for free roaming.

Other one: 2 less than appealing young ladies greeted me here quoting the same price. Better rooms and more private, BJ offered at 200RMB. Might be worth a look later in the evening if the selection is improved.

Happy hunting!

Blacklisted
02-07-06, 10:48
Report:

After the controversy surrounding this establishment, I had to check it out!
It does appear somewhat queer, so if there are any of you out there, it might be worth a look!

However, the place looks very professional and girls are certainly on offer as BLK pointed out. I don't think we should be too frightened of the overaching gayness of the joint!

Beyond the 'dick massage', there are plenty of others in English on the menu including 'prostate massage' if you're into that kind of thing. It's definitely a health related vibe, but will be interesting to see how far they go with other menu items.

Prices were around 200RMB.

Will post further report if I dare venture back, as I couldn't spare a full hour after my BBS venturings!

Albert Punter
02-07-06, 13:29
I agree 100% with what David replied to Darkman.

Mianbao, I am sorry for your bad experience.
I tried double only once at this bar.
I agree it is expensive and did not repeat.

It was a good experience and I had both girls BBBJ with no restrictions at all. Fondling was allowed and HJ never even started.

Sometimes it is a question of luck: same girl may be "best in the world" for me and "worst in world" for you.

Ace Gallant
02-08-06, 12:07
Thinking of organizing a ISF Fellowship party in one of the Bars this spring. Must not cost too much but will gather a crowd off girls, beers and fellow members.

PM me if anyone interested.

Also: I can do the organizing but I am not making money out of it! I am not a broker so do not think that I get anything out of this. I just like the pure fun and meeting of fellow mongers!

Dewdrops
02-09-06, 05:50
When to the BBS at the corner of WuDing Lu and Chang De Lu and found a girl from Chongqing with a nice pair, probably 36DD and great service. Thought I share the info for the breast men in the forum.Can you plz give the exact location of this BBS?

Is there a subway station nearby to approach it?

Sweetkisser
02-09-06, 07:55
Yes, Please count me in.
Sweetkisser


Thinking of organizing a ISF Fellowship party in one of the Bars this spring. Must not cost too much but will gather a crowd off girls, beers and fellow members.

PM me if anyone interested.

Also: I can do the organizing but I am not making money out of it! I am not a broker so do not think that I get anything out of this. I just like the pure fun and meeting of fellow mongers!

Dewdrops
02-09-06, 09:23
Anyone met/saw or know where to find pregnant chicks in Shanghai.

Any BBS or any sauna?

i found one in one BBS. When I went next time she had gone.

Dk4711
02-09-06, 09:48
[QUOTE=Darkman2]Thinking of organizing a ISF Fellowship party in one of the Bars this spring. Must not cost too much but will gather a crowd off girls, beers and fellow members.

YES please - I go to shanghai 2 or 3 times ind the next ½ year. It would be a pleasure to have some beers together - OK and some girls.

Looking forward to hear some more about the date

All the best from a DANE

Gualtier Malde
02-09-06, 17:31
About 4 months ago I saw one at the Hilton bar. She was 6 months pregnant and looking for men. I'm sure she's still there! Go check her out!

Sheesh.

David


Anyone met/saw or know where to find pregnant chicks in Shanghai.

Any BBS or any sauna?

i found one in one BBS. When I went next time she had gone.

Shadowcrest
02-09-06, 17:33
I will be in Shanghai the end of this month through the 4th. PM me if there are any travelers getting together.

Ace Gallant
02-09-06, 17:44
About 4 months ago I saw one at the Hilton bar. She was 6 months pregnant and looking for men. I'm sure she's still there! Go check her out!

Sheesh.

David

Uhhh... David... if she is 6 months Pregnant 4 months ago... by now she would have delivered! 6 + 4 = 10 hehehe...

But that is a good ideal! Buy one get one free! hehehehehehehehehehehehe!

It5507
02-09-06, 19:10
Can anyone help?

I read thru various posting, reports, etc. Saw some KTV but wanna make sure I know where. Name.

I'm located by Marriott on Nanjing Road West

Thanks.

Gualtier Malde
02-09-06, 22:39
Well, nothing gets past you, does it Darkman! :-) I'm glad you got my joke. I just found it sort of silly to ask where to find pregnant providers, since by definition they aren't gonna be there, or in that state, for very long!

David


Uhhh... David... if she is 6 months Pregnant 4 months ago... by now she would have delivered! 6 + 4 = 10 hehehe...

But that is a good ideal! Buy one get one free! hehehehehehehehehehehehe!

Ace Gallant
02-10-06, 02:25
Well, nothing gets past you, does it Darkman! :-) I'm glad you got my joke. I just found it sort of silly to ask where to find pregnant providers, since by definition they aren't gonna be there, or in that state, for very long!

David

100% true!

Cheers!

Dewdrops
02-10-06, 04:12
Well, nothing gets past you, does it Darkman! :-) I'm glad you got my joke. I just found it sort of silly to ask where to find pregnant providers, since by definition they aren't gonna be there, or in that state, for very long!

DavidI know they wont last long. Like I said before that I found one in a BBS sometime back she gave me a HJ. I went there a week later and she was gone

So just a request, that if anyone comes across one then plz let me know ASAP.

Derjosh
02-10-06, 19:02
Hi all,

Only one question about Tong Ren Lu: What is the earliest time the girls resp. free lancers arrive at Malone’s or Manhattan? I know that I have more choice about midnight – but it’s a bit late for me at weekdays if I have to work the next day!
Thanks and happy hunting to all of us!

Ace Gallant
02-11-06, 13:04
Can anyone help?

I read thru various posting, reports, etc. Saw some KTV but wanna make sure I know where. Name.

I'm located by Marriott on Nanjing Road West

Thanks.

Shanghai is not Las Vegas or Bangkok or Tokyo, you can't find a strip club. There are underground ones but you need regular customer to bring you there and to bring you in.

If you read the post well enough you will find directions for bars and Saunas. Marriot is not far from action places.

Enjoy Shanghai

I will let you do some work in reading the forum to find what you want.

It5507
02-11-06, 14:04
I am new and ending my visit. 2nd to last night in hotel, a gal (maybe a 3 - 4) approached me at the hotel bar...asked for 5000 RMB (sorry for the confusion) cuz I am Chinese and American. When asked "why so high".... she asked for a favor.... Thanks Forum for educating me on the general cost here.

Asian MP Lover
02-11-06, 17:05
Hi,

Had to go to SH for a few days to sort out some work related issues. At the same time I thought I would pamper myself with a little massage, and took a taxi to Da Tang Yu Jing at Hong Mei Rd.

As previously reported the place is clean and the service good and it has that up-scale health club thing going on. I was led downstairs to a dressing room and assisted by a male attendant. A quick shower, dry-off, followed by putting on the ever so fashionable shorts/robe outfit. I was then shown to a VIP room with a reclining chair and flatscreen TV. Drinks were offered by I declined. Then came the Mamasan presenting the offering of the day: three girls all dressed in slutty dresses.

However, since I didn't really fancy any of them I asked for the famous VIP foot-massage instead. Since my Chineese is a bit limited this did not register with the Mamasan, so writing and sign language had to be used. After a while a dark long-haired girl in her mid 20's showed up and begun the proceedings.

After a suprisingly good foot massage with actually extended to both feet and legs (! ) things to a more sensual turn as she removed my flyffy shorts. All in all this was one of the best hand-jobs I ever had. This girl was in a league of her own when it came to rub & tug.

Total damage was 100 (health club fee) plus 300 for the HJ (60 min). I think she tried to talk me into a 120 min HJ which lets you pop twice (to be verifyed by anyone with sufficient language skills), but I declined since I had other plans for the evening.

I'll be back in a months time and suggestions of hi-end HJ's would be greatly appreciated.

Santa
02-11-06, 23:01
I am new and ending my visit. 2nd to last night in hotel, a gal (maybe a 3 - 4) approached me at the hotel bar...asked for 5000 CNY cuz I am Chinese and American. When asked "why so high".... she asked for a favor.... Thanks Forum for educating me on the general cost here.

It5507. I don't understand. What is CNY? Are you saying an ugly girl wanted 5000rmb at the Marriot Hotel? If so, that's over $600US. If you know where to go shopping, you can shag dozens of pretty girls for that price.

Traveler1234
02-12-06, 00:31
It5507. I don't understand. What is CNY? Are you saying an ugly girl wanted 5000rmb at the Marriot Hotel? If so, that's over $600US. If you know where to go shopping, you can shag dozens of pretty girls for that price.
CNY -- chinese new year

Traveler1234
02-12-06, 00:34
Can anyone help?

I read thru various posting, reports, etc. Saw some KTV but wanna make sure I know where. Name.

I'm located by Marriott on Nanjing Road West

Thanks.

Gentle hint: if you read D2's posts, you'll get all the info needed!

Ace Gallant
02-12-06, 01:11
CNY -- chinese new year

I think he meant ChiNese Yuan.

5000 CNY (or RMB) I can get 10 girls for LT on a quiet night. Or at least 5 girls for LT for Friday evening.!

See what I meant about girls in 5 Star hotel bars overpricing themselves?

Fortunately there is the existance of this forum!

Enjoy!

Gualtier Malde
02-12-06, 16:30
The music tends to start around 9pm, and I've found that you can pick up girls just about any time after the band starts. I've taken them out early and late, but the band tends to signal the start of the action.

David


Hi all,

Only one question about Tong Ren Lu: What is the earliest time the girls resp. free lancers arrive at Malone’s or Manhattan? I know that I have more choice about midnight – but it’s a bit late for me at weekdays if I have to work the next day!
Thanks and happy hunting to all of us!

Gualtier Malde
02-12-06, 16:32
I'm back in Shanghai, and followed through on my decision to immediately check out the Sauna at the Shanghai Hotel, which is walking distance from where I stay.

The Shanghai Hotel is behind the Hilton on Wulumuqi Zhong Lu. The Sauna is on the second floor. Just enter the lobby, bear left beyond the reception counter, and catch the elevator to the second floor. You will be deposited at the entrance to the sauna.

The prices are a little high as Saunas go - during the peak hours it is 750. I've heard that off peak it is 650, but I can't vouch for that. They serve a significant number of Japanese clients, which probably explains the elevated price. They also offer a special massage plus special foot massage, where "special" means extra service. You can also get a special foot massage only. The special foot massage only is 400.

I opted for the special regular massage package, no foot massage.

The facility is clean. It is much nicer than Shu Yi Quan at 825 Yan An Zhong Lu, which I reviewed previously. I would rate it as close to Da Tang Yu Jing. It really could be a toss up between the two, though I think Da Tang Yu Jing gets the edge. In any case, it is definitely nice enough for regular visits, and for me, factoring the taxi ride, it is cheaper.

They do offer everything, including red rope service.

After I showered and got a regular exfoliating massage, I was led to the special area, and shown a line up of at least 10 girls. They were all very cute. I chose one that just oozed sensuality. She had a bit of a Marilyn Monroe thing going, with a more voluptuous than usual body, and a very cute face. She had a sexy tattoo above her right breast, which was unusual but very sexy.

She provided a very long, very relaxed, totally enjoyable experience. It included everything you would expect, including the red rope, hot and cold treatments, a very long and enjoyable tongue bath, followed by a very long and enjoyable body (breast) massage. Main event was in multiple positions, with a great time had by all - well, at least the paying customer was completely satisfied!

This particular provider is #31, and her name is Angie.

I definitely recommend this place.

TommySnap
02-12-06, 16:48
Hi

should be in shanghai next month.

where are the best bars to pick up freebies?

i'm mid thirtis and average looks.

thanks

tom

Derjosh
02-12-06, 18:43
Thanks David - will report what I get!

Santa
02-12-06, 19:23
Tommysnap. Try Windows Bar on subway line #2 at Jingan Temple. It's crowded after midnight and has cheap beer. Ask around in there.

Lists of bars have previously been posted.

Gualtier Malde
02-13-06, 01:37
There is a post somewhere back that (maybe in the reports of distinction) on the days of the week various bars have ladies nights. I think freebies require a larger number of ladies to improve your odds. I'd say follow the ladies night list for starters.

Otherwise, there are the usual Malones, Manhattan, Zapatas, Bourbon Street, Pegasus, etc., etc., to try.

Good luck, and now that you have solicited, you are hereby obligated to post your experiences.

David


Hi

should be in shanghai next month.

where are the best bars to pick up freebies?

i'm mid thirtis and average looks.

thanks

tom

Ace Gallant
02-13-06, 10:19
I'm back in Shanghai, and followed through on my decision to immediately check out the Sauna at the Shanghai Hotel, which is walking distance from where I stay.
She provided a very long, very relaxed, totally enjoyable experience. It included everything you would expect, including the red rope, hot and cold treatments, a very long and enjoyable tongue bath, followed by a very long and enjoyable body (breast) massage. Main event was in multiple positions, with a great time had by all - well, at least the paying customer was completely satisfied!

This particular provider is #31, and her name is Angie.

I definitely recommend this place.

I hate to say this but in my first few trip here when I was one of the "Japanese Guest" we are responsible of "Spoilting the market" I was together with my Japanese friends than. Japanese never bargain or negotiate on prices. The worst part of it is that people in this business all knows that so they will ask for high prices.

As said I was with Japanese friends and was treated as a Japanese as well.

For what I had done, I sincerely apologized for what I had done 5 years ago.

Of course I was not a fellow member of this ISG back than!

Ace Gallant
02-13-06, 10:30
Tommysnap. Try Windows Bar on subway line #2 at Jingan Temple. It's crowded after midnight and has cheap beer. Ask around in there.

Lists of bars have previously been posted.

I heard this from girls and guys:

"Windows bar is a cheap bar where all the locals and cheap foreigners go."

I been there three times before these are my observations:

1) The Drinks are very reasonable.
2) Quality of people there are very mix.
3) On two seperate occassions I heard foreigner guest urguing over a 20 - 40 rmb difference while paying the bill. (This times I was sitting next to the cashier)
4) If you are willing to buy drinks for girls without resistance, for sure you get freebies for the night.

I guess for me I took the advantage of been a "more loaded" foreigner which push me up market so that I can get the girls easier the rest. I am neither nice looking or young. As the saying goes: "when an old man driving a GTO mix around with young guys driving normal cars, who will the girl go after?"

Play your cards well!

Gualtier Malde
02-13-06, 10:38
The ladies night list was posted by our dear colleague AP, in the following message: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430622&postcount=4590




There is a post somewhere back that (maybe in the reports of distinction) on the days of the week various bars have ladies nights. I think freebies require a larger number of ladies to improve your odds. I'd say follow the ladies night list for starters.

Otherwise, there are the usual Malones, Manhattan, Zapatas, Bourbon Street, Pegasus, etc., etc., to try.

Good luck, and now that you have solicited, you are hereby obligated to post your experiences.

David

Gualtier Malde
02-13-06, 10:41
Wow, right before my eyes, Darkman2 becomes Asian Gambler! I didn't even see the nearby phone booth!

David

Ace Gallant
02-13-06, 11:14
Wow, right before my eyes, Darkman2 becomes Asian Gambler! I didn't even see the nearby phone booth!

David

Hee Hee Hee.... one of man's great invention! The internet!

You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them,
Know when walk away, know when to run!
You never get girls, when sitting at the table,
cause there be time enough to get them when the deals is done!

AG

Ace Gallant
02-13-06, 11:23
The music tends to start around 9pm, and I've found that you can pick up girls just about any time after the band starts. I've taken them out early and late, but the band tends to signal the start of the action.

David

For Malone, there are a couple of regulars girls there, they are in no hurry so they are lesser room for negotiations. But frankly they are no difference from some of the less regulars. There was once I had one of them as a freebie because it was around 2am and she is still not taken.

Mahathan; you don't even have to approach any one of them, once the music starts, you are alone drinking, the honey bees swamp in!

Albert Punter
02-13-06, 13:27
I was wondering who was this member new to this thread, but apparently expert of Shanghai and with so many posts.
Now I understand what happened.



Hee Hee Hee.... one of man's great invention! The internet!

You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them,
Know when walk away, know when to run!
You never get girls, when sitting at the table,
cause there be time enough to get them when the deals is done!

AG

Da Dan Gao
02-13-06, 13:58
Coming out of my CNY break, focusing on outcall providers from Shanghai Daily and websites as most BBS were shut, I decided to revisit the sauna on DongZhuAnBang road 74 (close JiangSu road).

It proved an utter disappointment, the facilities were pretty run down by now (first visit 3 years ago), the service although full with red rope, was not good. However at 580 RMB I guess could have been worse.

Back to BBS for me

Albert Punter
02-13-06, 14:17
Just read this ad on a local website:

"I'm from Finland, i'll have a business travel to Shanghai at end of this month, i 'd like to find a sexy girl to accompany,age between 22 to 28,and i 'll pay around 1000$ for a week, if you're interested, please send your details plus latest pic to ......................."

It seems to me too much money.
Do you agree ?
Shall we suggest to this gentleman to reduce his offer ?

Santa
02-13-06, 15:57
$1,000 a week to keep him company? No, don't tell him to reduce his offer. Tell that sucker I'll be waiting for him at the airport.

Now, where did I put my wig and make-up? :D

St Germain
02-13-06, 17:07
For you Pudong based mongers, there are 3 new BBS recently opened on Zhangyang Lu, on the north side of the road between Songlin Lu and Yuanshen Lu.

I tried the westernmost one, pink lights, right next to a legit massage place. Chose a 20-year old girl from Fujian named Yang Yang. She was businesslike but nonetheless sweet. About a 7.5. Did the deed in a room upstairs, which lent some feeling of safety, although I could overhear conversations in adjoining rooms, which is always an annoyance.

On my first window shopping passby, I saw the middle BBS in this row of 3 has a smiling nerdy looking girl with glasses. She looks like she belongs behind the check-out desk in a library. Might be a fun one.

Anyway, these places are worth a look if you are in the area and need a cheap release.

I paid 200. In fact, I've done a few walkarounds in Pudong lately and all the BBS have been quoting 200 for FS. It seems overall pricing may have come down a bit, since in the past some quoted 250 and even 300. Anyway, don't let them get away with charging more than 200. Kick in an extra 20 or so if the service and attitude are particularly good.

Count

Ace Gallant
02-13-06, 20:35
I was wondering who was this member new to this thread, but apparently expert of Shanghai and with so many posts.
Now I understand what happened.

But here is the story:

I got an email a month ago, with Legal notes that says that I am impersonating some one by posting illegal stuff on the internet. (This is the only forum that I do posting. Than I got another email from the forum admin that says my accounts had been locked out because the maximum number of retries had been reach!

Wrote an email to Jackson about security of this forum and looks like the Privacy had been compromised too. There were no reply from Admin.

I don't want to get sued by someone unknown so as the first step; I decided to change the name in case that person names is "DARKMAN2!" and if things continue to get worst I might consider retiring from posting on this forum.

Not trying to trick anyone; just protecting myself!

AG

Ace Gallant
02-13-06, 20:39
$1,000 a week to keep him company? No, don't tell him to reduce his offer. Tell that sucker I'll be waiting for him at the airport.

Now, where did I put my wig and make-up? :D

Some people are rich, why do we bother to stop them from spending money?

But if our market had been compromised than we have all right to tell him to F.O.

F.O. = Fresh Orange =====

hehehe! = > = V
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Fxxk off!

Bill Lee
02-13-06, 21:24
Considering that typical KTV girl for overnight is 1,000RMB ($125USD), if he's asking for 24/7 company, that's decent deal?

7 days x $125 = $875USD.

And that's for a normal 12 hour KTV shift of 9 p.m. to 9 a.m.

Not so bad, if it's for 24/7 for $1,000USD?. But she better be a hot sexy girl and GF all the way.

Shit, back in the states, we have to pay $130 to $160 for an hour (not even an hour) for FS at Asian FS houses. But I'm comparing apples to oranges here.

But I'll done cheap, as cheap as $3.60USD for 20 minutes in catacombs at CP, Dongguan. So I know what's cheap is and what's not. Here you're talking about SH, one of the most expensive places in China. So is $1,000 USD a sucker's deal for a hot sexy young girl for 24/7? Nah! I'll pay for it.


Just my POV.
Bill



$1,000 a week to keep him company? No, don't tell him to reduce his offer. Tell that sucker I'll be waiting for him at the airport.

Now, where did I put my wig and make-up? :D

Santa
02-13-06, 23:06
Bill.

I don't think he will find a sexy hot girl, 24/7, GFE, by advertising for it. Maybe he will get lucky, but I don't think so. She will not be as pretty as the picture she sends him and he will have already committed. He will probably end up with a dog, one that would look like me if I were wearing a wig, lipstick and skirt. Not a pretty site!

With $1000 of pussy money for only one week, he would be better off to just go to Shanghai and find his own beaver. Of course, he probably doesn't know about this great website and doesn't know where to go shopping.

But, good luck to him whoever he is.

Gualtier Malde
02-14-06, 00:27
Somebody should call one of their regulars, offer them $400 USD to do the deal, then meet the guy at the airport with the girl, collect the $1000, take your $600 cut, and be done with the sucker.

With a sucker like that, you can be sure that after the $1000, which I'm sure she'll demand up front and he'll pay, she'll then want him to go shopping, shopping, shopping. That dude is going to lose his shirt!

Gualtier Malde
02-14-06, 00:43
Tripper's ISG gathering was a great success! Dark^H^H^H^HAsian Gambler, Tripper, Mockabee (Mockabee!) and Passinthrough attended.

We headed to Die Lian Hua Disport Company, Ltd, on Xujiahua Lu. Tripper, AG and Mockabee handled the necessary Mandarin, and in we went.

Anybody going to a KTV expecting to get laid on the premesis is going to be disappointed. But if you think of a KTV as "Kissing and Teasing with Video", you'll feel a little better about the experience.

This particular one was reasonably wild, and it helped immensely that we all recently learned the phrase Bian Tai (or is that Bing Tai :-) ) on the language forum. So we asked mamasan to bring only Bian Tai (abnormal, crazy) ladies!

After a couple of trade-ins (Passinthrough's first lady didn't cut it, and Mockabee's first lady was discovered to be on her period), we settled on a crew that delivered well.

My lady was not the prettiest by far, in fact as KTV girls go she was pretty marginal. But she spent the evening making up for it by being the most compliant and liberal one of the bunch (well, that's my opinion anyway. "B" may disagree! His was pretty wild too! But I don't know if his girl let him lick her pussy during a naked dance...).

One bottle of Chivas and several beers, and many naked dances later, the party came to an end. Passinthrough and I had meetings scheduled in the morning, so off we went. I think the rest ended up at ZY Pub, but I'm sure Tripper or AG will fill in those details.

Dewdrops
02-14-06, 02:49
Anyone met/saw or know where to find pregnant chicks in Shanghai.

Any BBS or any sauna?

i found one in one BBS. When I went next time she had gone.Anyone have any update on this?

Dewdrops
02-14-06, 02:50
Where is the official red light area in Shanghai?

Anyone have had any good encounters there?

Whats the price range?

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 03:17
Considering that typical KTV girl for overnight is 1,000RMB ($125USD), if he's asking for 24/7 company, that's decent deal?

7 days x $125 = $875USD.

And that's for a normal 12 hour KTV shift of 9 p.m. to 9 a.m.

Not so bad, if it's for 24/7 for $1,000USD?. But she better be a hot sexy girl and GF all the way.

Shit, back in the states, we have to pay $130 to $160 for an hour (not even an hour) for FS at Asian FS houses. But I'm comparing apples to oranges here.

But I'll done cheap, as cheap as $3.60USD for 20 minutes in catacombs at CP, Dongguan. So I know what's cheap is and what's not. Here you're talking about SH, one of the most expensive places in China. So is $1,000 USD a sucker's deal for a hot sexy young girl for 24/7? Nah! I'll pay for it.

Just my POV.
Bill

Not a bad deal? US$1000 = RMB8000 (1000 X 8 exchange rates) = my office receiptionist's half a year's salary! = Restaurant's waitress 9 months salary!

This is Shanghai man!

BJK
02-14-06, 03:31
I stayed at the Shanghai Hotel recently. Had I known it offered this service for Y750 I might have partaken.
I did inquire on services and prices, but decided not to ask about full service options after getting quoted Y400 for an hours massage ( I figured this was with happy ending as was a higher priced option) I might have been happy to pay Y750 for the convenience if I had known, but thought it might be much more.
I might try it next time I stay there. How much time did you get? 1 hour or 1.5 hour?

I might also add the hotel seems girl friendly. I took one girl in very late, there was only one person on reception awake who took no notice.
There is also a separate massage centre in the hotel (i guess level 3) They might offer in room service but I did not enquire this time.

Cheers,

BJK

Bill Lee
02-14-06, 03:40
How much do we pay for a hot young sexy KTV overnighter? 1000RMB ($125 USD) or more a night. That's in GZ's price already. SH must be 1,000RMB or more. So is it that unrealistic to pay $1,000 USD for 24/7 service?

Shit. you know KTV girls are only good for anywhere from 12 to 14 hours and you're paying already 1,000 RMB.

So where am I am so off on the numbers? Do KTV girls in SH makes so much less for overnighters?

Bill


Not a bad deal? US$1000 = RMB8000 (1000 X 8 exchange rates) = my office receiptionist's half a year's salary! = Restaurant's waitress 9 months salary!

This is Shanghai man!

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 03:57
Tripper's ISG gathering was a great success! Dark^H^H^H^HAsian Gambler, Tripper, Mockabee (Mockabee!) and "B" attended. ["B", I don't know your forum handle, but I won't use your given name here - just "B" until someone PMs me and I'll edit the report]

One bottle of Chivas and several beers, and many naked dances later, the party came to an end. "B" and I had meetings scheduled in the morning, so off we went. I think the rest ended up at ZY Pub, but I'm sure Tripper or AG will fill in those details.

Yah, that was a nice KTV. "B" handle is "passinthough"

MAB's first girl who had period was kind of embarrass herself. When mamasan came in for the change of girl, she told mamasan that she was sorry that she this month her period "suddently" came early and unfortunately it was last night! She said she getting off work immediately when she leave our room. Well I don't know about that; how can a girl not know her period dates? There are no such thing as "Suddently".

I guess we went on the wrong evening, because tonight is Valentine's day so my girl and PIT girls both told me (Separately) that they will love to go out with us but they have prior arrangement to go out for food and singing at party world after their work last night. Both PIT and my girl promised to give us calls on mobile this weekends for a "fun" time. I don't know about PIT but I got my call at 6am this morning from my girl (sort of wake up call) asking if I am free this morning and she can come over to meet me at my house if I am not working today. Shit, I got meeting at 9am this morning. (now typing away this report right after my meeting!) Anyways... she told me that she is very lonely tonight as it is valentine's evening and wants to take the night off! I'll see what will work out and make a report.

There was some unhappiness at bill paying time especially with tripper because he did negotiated the initial deal with the manager. So I like to add these:

OK thing to note on this KTV:

1) They will try to put you in the biggest room which cost much more. there were 5 of us and they tried to put us in a room half the football field!
2) Negotiate the rate up front and make sure it include everything. The Manager did not tell us that we need to tips the mamasan, the waiter. Well actually this is understood but the manager told tripper that the price are all inclusive.

Prices:

Pre-negotiations:

Room (Consumables) : 1080
Waitress tips: 300
K-Girls tips: 500

Negotiated:

Room (Consumables) : 1000
Waitress Tips: 200
K-Girls Tips : 500 each

What we paid:
Room (Consumables) : 1000
Extra beers: 40 each x 5 total 175 (How we ended up with 175? I thought it should be 200?)
Waitress Tips: 200
Mamasan tips: 300
Waiter Tips: 100

Of course the room charge of a 1000 was use up for a bottle of Chivas. I think it is not so much of paying the extra but the unhappies is in having the feeling of been ripped off. they agreed on the price and suddently there where a whole bunch of extras. The only thing I didn't like was that all the girls and mamasan was looking at me wanting me to explain everything as I was the most flurent Mandarin speaker. I push them off by telling that the deal was negotiated earlier and they agreed to it, like it or not, stick to it!

Ok... off to another meeting.... report on ZY later!

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 04:02
How much do we pay for a hot young sexy KTV overnighter? 1000RMB ($125 USD) or more a night. That's in GZ's price already. SH must be 1,000RMB or more. So is it that unrealistic to pay $1,000 USD for 24/7 service?

Shit. you know KTV girls are only good for anywhere from 12 to 14 hours and you're paying already 1,000 RMB.

So where am I am so off on the numbers? Do KTV girls in SH makes so much less for overnighters?

Bill

No billy.... the maths does not works that way... 1000rmb a night does not equal to 1000 X 7 , 7000 per week! Just like ST is 500 (2 hours) does not equal to LT (6 hours) 500 X 3 = 1500

We would expect 1000 per day mean if we book her for a week, the price will dipped to per day basis. There are hourly rates, nightly rates and Weekly rates. (Cheaper by the dozens) I am sure the girls agrees because if you book her for a week, she is secured for the whole week, don't have to worry zero customer nights like Monday, Tuesday night.

Just want to make sure nobody spoil the market or get ripped off.

Santa
02-14-06, 06:52
ONLY IF she is a fabulous escort, young and beautiful, great sex, entertaining, fun companion, classy, speaks good english, shows the guy around town without trying to rip him off, etc. Then yes, she would be worth $1000 or more.

But we all know he will probably get non of that. There must be such girls in Shanghai, but what are the odds that he will find her through his advertisement.

No, he will probably find an ugly, older, and very used Shanghai Susie, and she will milk him for all she can get. "Never give a sucker an even break!" And he will fly all the way to China to meet her.

Bill Lee. You are an experienced guy, so you must also see that this lonely guy in Finland is living in a fantasy.

But maybe I am wrong and he will find his dream girl.

Bonzo1
02-14-06, 07:25
I might be missing something, but I didn't see any USD in the copy of the ad (I think it said 1000$). But assuming he is.

I agree with Bill -- it's not that outrageous. Not the best bargaining, but not that outrageous either (see Bill's math). And what's the best deal this guy could get anyway -- like $400 or $500 (US) for the week, if the girl is decent? Compared to what he'd get in Europe or the US, it's such an outrageous value that the marginal difference in terms of orders of magnitude is probably not worth the hassle for the guy. In other words, a few hundred bucks potential savings lost = big whoop.

Moral here -- chill. People aren't ruining the market as much as is claimed here, and the experts here seem to be doing just fine with their own negotiations. In the meantime, we are doing a lot more to keep prices at a reasonable level (not by castigating the occassional dope but simply by reporting the market) than any few shmucks could do to ruin it, even if they do pay way too much (which is bound to happen anyway).

Back to business.

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 09:34
Ok... after visiting ZY pub, I have to agree with the other posters that it is quite a place! I am sure Tripper and MockABee will agree!

You can walk in without any oblications for extras, sit there with a cheap 20 rmb beer for the whole hour while the girl try to get you "high" enough to go for the extra options!

What amused me is that they did spent sometime to decorate up the place (even though it is a bit run down from outside).

When we arrived, it was about 12:30am on a Monday night, no customers, the girls are playing cards. Tripper and MAB grab the cuter ones of the lots which is still not at all "Angels" by definations! I was struck with a 5/10, 24 year old from Jiang Su. We could hardly get a mouthful of my beer, when we are pulled into the Sofa Cubes. I started with a 350 HJ, BJ when I can hear MAB pounding away in the next cube and Tripper's girl making sounds from her mouth of tripper! (Regonized her deep voice!) After 20mins of hard stoking with her mouth and hands she said... "wow you are strong!" and offered me the FS option. She started with 500. (I remembered there is someone posted that it was 700 for FS, eat in or take out?). I told her not to treat me like a foreigner, told her I lived here and where I stay (nearby) she treats me well, I may consider taking her out tomorrow night on Valentine night! and come over often to see her...blah blah blah... She than explained that it is the mama regulations that the price is 500 for FS and she have to pay to mama blah blah blah. That is when I get nasty! I said "Well... here is my last price 450 take it or you can continue HJ and BJ for the next 3 hours and you will not be able to get a drop out of my little brother! Furthermore, mama is not going to know that you did FS or HJ/BJ so don't give me the crab about paying mama or regulations" I guess she sense that she is going to be very very tied if she do not take the 450, she is going to die doing BJ/HJ on me. (Actually I was afraid that she said no based on my knowledge of the previous posting on this board and also mean she will BJ and HJ the skin offf my little brother!

She took the 450 option... start strip and do the sitting and a couple of postion. I don't know about you guys but I find doing a girl on a small sofa a little uncomfortable for my likings! After a while I can see her face turn to relief, closed her eyes and felt my dick getting wet as if she is pi on me! She open her eyes and said: "You cheated me! I thought you said you can cum fast when FS? Now I am done and you are still not!" Told her... "Yes almost there, BJ me, she stood up, took out my rubbers and very soon I unloaded into her mouth.

She Clear up everything. Paid her and she kept on reminding me about taking her out on Valentines Night, coming back everyday....wanted my cell# which I did not give. Proceed to dress up and back to the "Beer Garden" where I found my two friends enjoying their beers with their girls on their lap.

All of us quickly agreed that this a quite a place. We could have rest there with the girls on our beer a little more if not for the hunger!

PS:

1) All of the com***ications between my girl and me was done with Mandarin and a but of Shanghainese. (I think that make it easier to negotiate).
2) My girl told me, regardless of what service they provide, mamasan gets 150 from each one of them per customer.

Gualtier Malde
02-14-06, 09:44
I guess we went on the wrong evening, because tonight is Valentine's day so my girl and PIT girls both told me (Separately) that they will love to go out with us but they have prior arrangement to go out for food and singing at party world after their work last night. Both PIT and my girl promised to give us calls on mobile this weekends for a "fun" time. I don't know about PIT but I got my call at 6am this morning from my girl (sort of wake up call) asking if I am free this morning and she can come over to meet me at my house if I am not working today. Shit, I got meeting at 9am this morning. (now typing away this report right after my meeting!) Anyways... she told me that she is very lonely tonight as it is valentine's evening and wants to take the night off! I'll see what will work out and make a report.

There was some unhappiness at bill paying time especially with tripper because he did negotiated the initial deal with the manager.



So I have an important question for Tripper - did you set up something with my girl? I think she liked you! :-) (Tripper and I were sharing...)

On the bill paying: the biggest lesson for me is if you have three mandarin speakers in the room, don't let one of the only guys who doesn't speak the language pay the bill! Between the fog of the alcohol, the distraction of the girls, and the lack of language skills, I was pretty much a disaster. We ended up with a 400RMB surprise, which in the greater scheme of things is not a large amount between five guys, but it was unfortunate that some felt we were getting ripped off.

From my past experience, we always tipped the waiter and the mamasan, but there was an expectation that we had negotiated all tips, and I think my fumbling messed up that expectation.

I'd love to hear the forum's opinion on proper tipping expectations at a KTV. I think there was some disagreement borne of inexperience amongst each of us. On my previous trips, I was with someone who had a lot of experience, and handled all the negotiations. I was merely asked for my contribution, without an explaination of how the money was being distributed. I do know though that on each of those occasions, all the folks (waiter, waitress, and mamasan) got tipped. I'm just not sure what is the right amount.

Any KTV masters present here? Care to enlighten us?

Dragon D
02-14-06, 09:53
Heya guys,

Been a while since I have heard anyone talk about wuzhong rd so I thought I'd make a mention. I have taken a few friends over there and they have had a lot of fun. For the price they actually went 4 nights in a row and tried almost every girl there. Most girls at the one place I go to are from Sichuan and are pretty good. The last couple I had were so tight it hurt. Of course there are a couple of lousy ones too but well thats luck. The price is 150 a shot, 500 for the night. The papa told me he could get virgins for 6000 RMB or so and if enough of you visit he can get an apartment just for ISG members. Let me know if anyone is going this weeked and maybe we can hook up. Good hunting.

DMCguy
02-14-06, 09:57
First trip to SH last year was all business with my boss - and was NMA (no mongering allowed). Just got in this trip Sunday night late and was business until late last night. Meetings wrapped early today and I'm looking to play tonight. Shame on me for not RTF'ing earlier as I'd have learned that there seems to be no fun to be had around the Radisson New World where I'm staying this trip.

Tonight I'll go by Manhattan to see what can happen there on a Valentines Day night - and sadly tomorrow (Weds) is my last night this trip before I head back to the states. I may make my way to ZP tomorrow night.

Been fun and informative reading the reports here - thanks OAH, D2 and AG for all their insights...

DG

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 10:21
So I have an important question for Tripper - did you set up something with my girl? I think she liked you! :-) (Tripper and I were sharing...)

On the bill paying: the biggest lesson for me is if you have three mandarin speakers in the room, don't let one of the only guys who doesn't speak the language pay the bill! Between the fog of the alcohol, the distraction of the girls, and the lack of language skills, I was pretty much a disaster. We ended up with a 400RMB surprise, which in the greater scheme of things is not a large amount between five guys, but it was unfortunate that some felt we were getting ripped off.


David, you did well.... don't feel bad. We all enjoyed the place, brought us to a great place! And I believe all in the group will agree. Right guys?

On the paying part. I think the problems last night was: There are too many negotiators, I was guilty too! I either should take over all the negotiations or kept quiet. It comes to a point where I became too confused on what was agreed.

But you are right: In my experience, the mamasan get a tip (but not equals to the girls) the Waitress and waiters get a tip. But I found that the tip for the waitress (300) is high! For a legit KTV, 300 is a K-girl tip! I was not surprise when they ask for tip for mamasan and waitress but was surprise when the manager agree to Tripper: 1200 "ALL INCLUSIVE"

"I was pretty much a disaster" : That is why I brush them off by telling the girls not to speak to me and shutup we will settle it! (Of course I said that in Chinese)

Yah...the most important part: have more people to share the load!

And yah....

Trippers and david girl was hot! ready to be sandwich!

Bob Builder
02-14-06, 11:33
Excuse my ignorance but is it usual practice at Shanghai KTVs to have to tip the waitresses, waiters and mamasans a specific amount? The amounts that you have specified seem a bit excessive to me for the waiting staff. Who actually told you that you have to pay this money?

I mean the gals obviously get paid direct and the mama takes a cut of that, so why is the mama getting a tip? Unless you do so to ensure good service, but the amount would be up to you.

Or just maybe I am spoilt where I monger where they do not charge this way in the KTVs.

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 11:54
Excuse my ignorance but is it usual practice at Shanghai KTVs to have to tip the waitresses, waiters and mamasans a specific amount? The amounts that you have specified seem a bit excessive to me for the waiting staff. Who actually told you that you have to pay this money?

I mean the gals obviously get paid direct and the mama takes a cut of that, so why is the mama getting a tip? Unless you do so to ensure good service, but the amount would be up to you.

Or just maybe I am spoilt where I monger where they do not charge this way in the KTVs.

Yes, as I said, for the waitress, a tips of 300 is equals to a tips for the K-girls for a normal legit KTV. But in my experience, all mamasan gets a tips but the amount will depends on her service and also depends on you. If you think she is good, get you the right girls, and you want her to take care of you the next time you come back, tips her more.

For last night the girls are prompting us to tip mama the same amount as the girls (500) I think that is ridiculous! However the mamasan last night is worth tipping because she played alone with ask and not to mentioned, tripper was continuously playing with her boobs! : b....

In the end we did not tips her what the girls us to... of course the girls wants to score credits with mamasan too!

I think a reasonable amount of tips in Shanghai KTV for mamasan is about 200 - 300, waitress 100 - 200. Girls ...depends on what type of KTV. last night that one is a total nude KTV. In my experience there are two other types: toppless and legit KTV.

But I am not expert in Shanghai KTV, hopefully someone Shanghai KTV experts can correct me.

Oops its Valentine eve, I got 3 dates to catch... will be tricky but....what the hell!

Enjoy!

Gualtier Malde
02-14-06, 13:23
For last night the girls are prompting us to tip mama the same amount as the girls (500) I think that is ridiculous! However the mamasan last night is worth tipping because she played alone with ask and not to mentioned, tripper was continuously playing with her boobs! : b....



Oh wait! Tripper was playing with her boobs? That automatically converts her from Mamasan to KTV Girl! No wonder the other girls were asking us to pay her a KTV Girl tip! It's all Tripper"s fault, that horndog!!!!!!! :-)

David

OldAsiaHand
02-14-06, 13:54
$1,000 per week for the perfect fantasy girl is not that expensive. Passion girls in Beijing used to get between 3-5k RMB LT. I paid 1.5k ST myself once. The girl was a 9+ and I could not resist. Unfortunately, the service was not equal to the looks.

We all know where we can get laid in China on the cheap. I do it all the time as most of you know. But, I must admit that the quality I get is almost never better than a 7. However, IF the guy can really find a 9+, total GFE, 24/7 attention to his every need, etc., it would be worth $1,000, even to me.

The 64 million dollar questions as some of us have asked is, IF? I also reckon his chances are low.

Just my POV.

OAH

Bill Lee
02-14-06, 17:11
A fantasy girl for $1,000 USD, I would pay for that. 24/7 YES.

As OAH says, "IF." The big IF.

You all are probably 99% right that our Finlander (hehehehe) will probably not end up with an 8+ or more girl. But my point here is based on an 8+ girl for one week on non-stop fucking and holding hands.

This fake picture has been floating around the board for a while. But this is the kind of girl I would pay $1,000USD 24/7 for one week of fantasy.

Bill




ONLY IF she is a fabulous escort, young and beautiful, great sex, entertaining, fun companion, classy, speaks good english, shows the guy around town without trying to rip him off, etc. Then yes, she would be worth $1000 or more.

But we all know he will probably get non of that. There must be such girls in Shanghai, but what are the odds that he will find her through his advertisement.

No, he will probably find an ugly, older, and very used Shanghai Susie, and she will milk him for all she can get. "Never give a sucker an even break!" And he will fly all the way to China to meet her.

Bill Lee. You are an experienced guy, so you must also see that this lonely guy in Finland is living in a fantasy.

But maybe I am wrong and he will find his dream girl.

Ace Gallant
02-14-06, 18:02
A fantasy girl for $1,000 USD, I would pay for that. 24/7 YES.

As OAH says, "IF." The big IF.

You all are probably 99% right that our Finlander (hehehehe) will probably not end up with an 8+ or more girl. But my point here is based on an 8+ girl for one week on non-stop fucking and holding hands.

This fake picture has been floating around the board for a while. But this is the kind of girl I would pay $1,000USD 24/7 for one week of fantasy.

Bill

Hey! This is a fake picture? I reckon it looks like one of those KTV girl in the KTV we went last night! David, Tripper, MAB and Passinthrough you agree? I remembered one of them looks just like that!

But regardless... that "Fake picture" She is hardly score a 8 on my scale! I seen much better ones that works KTVs, or escort agencies!

Anyways...I still think US$1000 for a week is still over price (not expansive) but overprice for a girl that is 7 and below! my POV.

I don't know about you guys, but I found Beijing price a little higher than Shanghai.... But I regardless of all these.... I agree with Santa and OAH for a guy who post in the web site looking for a companion for US$1000/week... he will most likely to end up with a below 5 girl!

Shadowcrest
02-14-06, 23:31
A totally nude KTV? Where can I find this one in Shanghai? I have always been unfortunate enough to wind up at the legit ones!

Cebu Local
02-15-06, 00:02
Hey! This is a fake picture? I reckon it looks like one of those KTV girl in the KTV we went last night! David, Tripper, MAB and Passinthrough you agree? I remembered one of them looks just like that!

But regardless... that "Fake picture" She is hardly score a 8 on my scale! I seen much better ones that works KTVs, or escort agencies!

Anyways...I still think US$1000 for a week is still over price (not expansive) but overprice for a girl that is 7 and below! my POV.

I don't know about you guys, but I found Beijing price a little higher than Shanghai.... But I regardless of all these.... I agree with Santa and OAH for a guy who post in the web site looking for a companion for US$1000/week... he will most likely to end up with a below 5 girl!Who knows,What we may consider a 5 might be a 10 according to his taste,Like this girl is not bad,She might be a 9-10 in some peoples tastes.Regarding 1000$,If you look at the cost of women in the Finland thread,Its a bargain for him.100 Euros for Short time with an average looking girl.Lets just wait for his FR if any

PassinThrough
02-15-06, 01:01
Hey! This is a fake picture? I reckon it looks like one of those KTV girl in the KTV we went last night! David, Tripper, MAB and Passinthrough you agree? I remembered one of them looks just like that!She doesn't look as good as a couple of the girls in the room with us. I think mile was much better looking that the picture. As for talking to her we were SMS'ing all day yesterday and will get together this weekend.

Thanks guys I had a great time at the KTV, it was a wonderful experience and look forward to repeating.

PIT

AKA Man
02-15-06, 02:42
ZY Pub
No. 1771 XinZha Rd

Below link from Cronin's post on 03-24-05 in Photo Gallery. Jpeg of Map is attached to post.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=348249&postcount=1895
Amazing. A few years ago I lived very close to there (before discovering this list) and always wondered about this bar when walking past. Tant pis. Next time, I will certainly have a beer, maybe more. Thanks for the 411.

Shkingpin
02-15-06, 03:03
In my humble experience in Shanghai (have been here 6 years now, getting old), usual tips for ktv is 100 for waiter and waitress and 200-300 for girls. Tips for mamasan like AG said depends on if you want to go back there and have good service or wether or not you liked the mamasan's contribution.

For a full nude ktv, tips for girls can go up to 400 (even 500 seems a little bit much) but tips for waiters and waitresses still should be 100, unless they undress themselves (haha).

Cheers,

PF.

Dewdrops
02-15-06, 03:31
Hey bblover,

I don't know how much more descriptive I can be. Weihai intersects Yan An just West of Shan Xi. So if you go North on Shan Xi from Huai Hai, you make a left on Wei Hai. If you go South on Shan Xi from Nanjing then you make a right. Either way, walk on Wei Hai until you are just about to hit Yan An and it'll be on your right. The only BBS there. Wei Hai slants into Yan An so maybe that's what's throwing you off.

You should see her, she's about 5'6'', about a 9 in my books and got great big titties.

Enjoy and let me know if she's willing to come out and play.
MJI went there. There's a proper barber shop there and not the ones providing sex services.

Dewdrops
02-15-06, 03:41
Xeroxin,

Is there a big boobs babe there? I'm also into big boobs.

Gualtier Malde
02-15-06, 07:30
I think she looks like Passinthrough's girl. But, AG, I think your's was even cuter than this one. But I bet my girl would out fuck all the others, but who can tell? (I'm still waiting to hear from Tripper...)

David


Hey! This is a fake picture? I reckon it looks like one of those KTV girl in the KTV we went last night! David, Tripper, MAB and Passinthrough you agree? I remembered one of them looks just like that!

Gualtier Malde
02-15-06, 07:54
By the way, here's the best picture I could sneak during the evening. Tripper tried to get some shots, but they did everything short of crushing his camera when his flash went off.

David


I think she looks like Passinthrough's girl. But, AG, I think your's was even cuter than this one. But I bet my girl would out fuck all the others, but who can tell? (I'm still waiting to hear from Tripper...)

David

Ace Gallant
02-15-06, 10:16
I think she looks like Passinthrough's girl. But, AG, I think your's was even cuter than this one. But I bet my girl would out fuck all the others, but who can tell? (I'm still waiting to hear from Tripper...)

David

Tripper is missing in action! Maybe your girl got him? fxxking him to death hehehe!

Yah... but I will grade mine as a 7 only..... I think MAB second girl was quite cute too! accept that her real breast looks like fake! But when I feel it, it felt prefectly real! May be she had it done using the Japanese method?

Blacklisted
02-15-06, 10:19
A great night had by all!!!
They worked for their money that night, which I like to see! Every half hour we got naked dancing which is fucking great to sit back with a cigar and whiskey and watch 5 naked 20 year old hot Chinese chicks going off in front of us. Loved it!
The mama told us they were all bian tai after we demanded it from them. But unfortunately no pissing in glasses... Damn.
We also did lots of partner swapping, although passinthrough and dave were pretty happy with theirs and weren't sharing, but I made sure to give each of them a really good grope. Especially Dave's (thanks Dave)!!
All in all, I had negotiated the bill of 1000 room, 500 for each girl and 200 tip and didn't budge on that. The other guys felt sorry for the boy (who I didn't even notice) and gave him some money too. I felt the price was more than enough as it was, so they got nought from me.

After that a few of us hit ZY for the first time which was pretty good actually. A nice finisher for the evening! No time for full revue but I think it's been well covered already.

Cheers boys, and may they all be gorgeous and bian tai@!

Ace Gallant
02-15-06, 10:22
Who knows,What we may consider a 5 might be a 10 according to his taste,Like this girl is not bad,She might be a 9-10 in some peoples tastes.Regarding 1000$,If you look at the cost of women in the Finland thread,Its a bargain for him.100 Euros for Short time with an average looking girl.Lets just wait for his FR if any

Yes, but we are in Shanghai, why pay Finland's price?

I still believe, when in Rome, do what the Romans do! Pay Shanghai price! Why try to pay them more? They are not going to Thanks you for it? In fact they are going to laugh you as a big sucker when you leave.

As I said before... I don't know about you guys, but I just hate the feeling of paying more and yet one day found out that they are talking bad about you!

Ace Gallant
02-15-06, 10:25
A great night had by all!!!
They worked for their money that night, which I like to see! Every half hour we got naked dancing which is fucking great to sit back with a cigar and whiskey and watch 5 naked 20 year old hot Chinese chicks going off in front of us. Loved it!
The mama told us they were all bian tai after we demanded it from them. But unfortunately no pissing in glasses... Damn.
We also did lots of partner swapping, although passinthrough and dave were pretty happy with theirs and weren't sharing, but I made sure to give each of them a really good grope. Especially Dave's (thanks Dave)!!
All in all, I had negotiated the bill of 1000 room, 500 for each girl and 200 tip and didn't budge on that. The other guys felt sorry for the boy (who I didn't even notice) and gave him some money too. I felt the price was more than enough as it was, so they got nought from me.

After that a few of us hit ZY for the first time which was pretty good actually. A nice finisher for the evening! No time for full revue but I think it's been well covered already.

Cheers boys, and may they all be gorgeous and bian tai@!

Woooo.... the dead just came back to life!

Bill Lee
02-15-06, 14:22
I have brighten up your pic. Good sneaky shot.

Bill



By the way, here's the best picture I could sneak during the evening. Tripper tried to get some shots, but they did everything short of crushing his camera when his flash went off.

David

Ace Gallant
02-15-06, 17:18
In my humble experience in Shanghai (have been here 6 years now, getting old), usual tips for ktv is 100 for waiter and waitress and 200-300 for girls. Tips for mamasan like AG said depends on if you want to go back there and have good service or wether or not you liked the mamasan's contribution.

For a full nude ktv, tips for girls can go up to 400 (even 500 seems a little bit much) but tips for waiters and waitresses still should be 100, unless they undress themselves (haha).

Cheers,

PF.

PF.....hahahaha...you joker! why do they want to work as a waitress and get 100 as tips when they can undress themselve everytime and get 500? hahahaha... unless they are fxxking ugly ...but if they are fxxking ugly, you rather they keep their clothes on right?

Ace Gallant
02-15-06, 17:24
She doesn't look as good as a couple of the girls in the room with us. I think mile was much better looking that the picture. As for talking to her we were SMS'ing all day yesterday and will get together this weekend.

Thanks guys I had a great time at the KTV, it was a wonderful experience and look forward to repeating.

PIT

Yah... can't forget that message with all the ping ying stuck together... can hardly make out what the F is she saying!

For the guys who is wondering what I am talking about: This is a sample of what she sent to PIT:

QINGRENJIEKUAILE

Should have read: Qing Ren Jie Kuai Le = Happy valentine's day

Hope you enjoy your weekends doing her... she is hot too!

Ace Gallant
02-15-06, 17:26
A totally nude KTV? Where can I find this one in Shanghai? I have always been unfortunate enough to wind up at the legit ones!

Hang out with us when we are going next time....!

Shadowcrest
02-15-06, 20:01
I will be there from the 26th through the 4th. PM Me with some details. I will be at the Shanghai Hilton.

PassinThrough
02-16-06, 01:14
Hang out with us when we are going next time....!I am interested in going back again so let me know if anyone wants to put a trip together. We need at least one person who can negotiate, not that it helped a lot.


Hope you enjoy your weekends doing her... she is hot too!I have every intention of it. She was hot and Bian Tai.

PIT

Blacklisted
02-16-06, 03:15
Oh wait! Tripper was playing with her boobs? That automatically converts her from Mamasan to KTV Girl! No wonder the other girls were asking us to pay her a KTV Girl tip! It's all Tripper"s fault, that horndog!!!!!!! :-)

David


Ha ha, she had nice ones too!!! But I saw mine give her at least 100 of the money I gave her, so I think it was bullshit about the tips. of course they just want to squeeze as much out as possible. I think we settled on 200 for tips at the beginning, (total 1200) plus the beers which were reasonable price and that should have been the end of it. I'm sure if we stood our ground and told them that we negotiaited 1200 they would have happily accepted. To sweeten the deal we simply could have said we will be back with more merry men next time.

So message is: 1 negotiator who initiates the deal, and pays final bill at the end while others sit back and relax.

We'll work out this KTV shit one day!!

Oh, and no, I didn't call your (our) girl Dave. As you may know I have my SO in town so need to be pretty cloak and dagger about mongering about! She sure was fun though, and seriously on heat.

JohnTodd
02-16-06, 04:00
Has anyone tried the KTV next to the Westin, if yes what can you expect there. Price and what happens in the room. Can you go there alone?
Thanks

Comrade 2255
02-16-06, 06:57
Regarding the Westin hotel's area, I don't know the score with the ktv just north, but I can tell you what to avoid.

The massage parlour to the east is just that, nothing more. I wouldn't have minded just a massage at the time, however I was attended to by a guy. What's more, the room was nothing like the glossy brochure but rather a dingy small room with dirty walls. To rub it in (so to speak), the guy left me with a sore neck for the next few days. Was I pissed!

Also avoid the grotty little "hairdressers" in the surrounding laneways. The women range in looks from vile to vile-ish (one looked about 45), and the state of the rooms is woeful. On my first and last venture into one of them, having literally been dragged into the shop by a cackling bevy of the banshees, I spotted a large rat darting across the floor. A stinky finger that needed a half dozen washes later with dettol soap to deodoroize (I kid you not) and bins overflowing with soiled waste paper from previous customers also didn't enhance the experience.

Gualtier Malde
02-16-06, 21:22
Comrade, you just described a BBS that is right up Santa and Tripper's alley.

If they hocked up any goobers while doing you and spit them onto the floor that'll close the deal for Santa. He'll be on a plane back to Shanghai!

David


Regarding the Westin hotel's area, I don't know the score with the ktv just north, but I can tell you what to avoid.

...

Also avoid the grotty little "hairdressers" in the surrounding laneways. The women range in looks from vile to vile-ish (one looked about 45), and the state of the rooms is woeful. On my first and last venture into one of them, having literally been dragged into the shop by a cackling bevy of the banshees, I spotted a large rat darting across the floor. A stinky finger that needed a half dozen washes later with dettol soap to deodoroize (I kid you not) and bins overflowing with soiled waste paper from previous customers also didn't enhance the experience.

Kinesics
02-17-06, 02:20
Tripper in Town,

Unless I missed it, would you share the name and/or location of the KTV where you and your buddies had great time? Thanks!

Blacklisted
02-17-06, 05:21
Kinestics: I don't actually know, but I'm sure I read one of Dave's posts a few pages back with full details.

Dave: Come on Dave, Santa and I have standards... They're just very, very, very low. We do prefer them around 20 though, and I've even seen santa reject a 35+ y.o. one night outside the angel.

Ace Gallant
02-17-06, 09:38
Kinestics: I don't actually know, but I'm sure I read one of Dave's posts a few pages back with full details.

Dave: Come on Dave, Santa and I have standards... They're just very, very, very low. We do prefer them around 20 though, and I've even seen santa reject a 35+ y.o. one night outside the angel.

Oh...come on... its not that low...?

Santa
02-17-06, 09:47
I also like clean and safe situations, but hunting around barbershops can be lots of fun. Sometimes the dirty shops and filthy streets are shocking, but that can add to the adventure.

As for barbershop ladies, sometimes they are old, ugly, give bad service or have bad attitudes. But sometimes the are young, pretty, give great sex and are lots of fun. Not knowing what you will find adds to the excitement of the barbershop hunt.

The one reservation that I have concerning prostitution is that some girls are forced to work in the sex trade. Some are captives to their pimps. Of course, that can be true of all venues and situations, not just barbershops.
Pimps also control saunas, massage parlours, five star hotel call girls, bargirls, streetgirls, etc. Anywhere girls try to rent out their pussies for cash, you will find criminal thugs trying to take a financial cut from the action.

But what are our sexual options? Freebies? Pretty freebies can be difficult to find. Get married? That often turns into a disaster, and even if we marry, men are naturally polygamous and seek variety. Rent a girl? Some people think that is immoral, but renting a girl seems to me to be a reasonable option. Celibacy? I think not!

I think pimping must go back to the stone age. You give me some of your food and I'll let you have sex with this captive woman.

Ace Gallant
02-17-06, 11:16
but what are our sexual options? freebies? pretty freebies can be difficult to find. get married? that often turns into a disaster, and even if we marry, men are naturally polygamous and seek variety. rent a girl? some people think that is immoral, but renting a girl seems to me to be a reasonable option. celibacy? i think not!

i think pimping must go back to the stone age. you give me some of your food and i'll let you have sex with this captive woman.

basically i agrees with what santa is saying. with the following additions:

1) "sometimes the dirty shops and filthy streets are shocking, but that can add to the adventure" => i always says, sometimes you got to taste the low end in order to know how good is the high end. this help in benchmarking the range.

2) "but sometimes the are young, pretty, give great sex and are lots of fun" => and yah..sometimes **** ones which is a trill to some but a danger to others.

3) "the one reservation that i have concerning prostitution is that some girls are forced to work in the sex trade." sex trade has always been that way, if every girls is willing work in sex trade just for money, there will not be so many bbs, saunas, etc etc around the whole. there are some exceptions which i came across (especially in japan) where the girls told me, they work in this profession because they like sex and it is really killing 2 birds with one stone, fullfill their sexual desire and making money at the same time! its been like these for thousands of years! if not million!

4) "pretty freebies can be difficult to find" => this is where i disagree, there are many freebies options out there, except that in most cases, it is not a freebie afterall..... after a while the freebies will turn around and want commitments from you. you may end up paying more than just paying off for sex.

Santa
02-17-06, 15:52
Asian Gambler. Pretty freebies are easy for YOU to find. Poor Santa always has to pay.

If I find a freebie she will stick to me "like shit sticks to a blanket". No thanks!

Albert Punter
02-17-06, 17:32
In general I agree with Santa and Gambler.

I am freebies oriented now.
In my opinion, freebies are a good option for those who want not only a body to play with but also some brain to share thoughts (between sessions).
Sometimes they may not look like models, but who cares, provided they are at least good looking.
Passion in bed is much preferable feature, and generally they put a lot of passion in what they do, because that is what they want !

Ace Gallant
02-17-06, 19:52
In general I agree with Santa and Gambler.

I am freebies oriented now.
In my opinion, freebies are a good option for those who want not only a body to play with but also some brain to share thoughts (between sessions).
Sometimes they may not look like models, but who cares, provided they are at least good looking.
Passion in bed is much preferable feature, and generally they put a lot of passion in what they do, because that is what they want !

Agreed 1000%

Ace Gallant
02-17-06, 19:55
Asian Gambler. Pretty freebies are easy for YOU to find. Poor Santa always has to pay.

If I find a freebie she will stick to me "like shit sticks to a blanket". No thanks!

Well... I have my share of freebies sticking to me like a shit on blanket... I only got rid of one recently which moved into my house and stayed there for past 3 months! I have to rent a place elsewhere to do my mongering....

fortunately I found a formula to got her out of my house.

Gualtier Malde
02-18-06, 00:45
Dave: Come on Dave, Santa and I have standards... They're just very, very, very low. We do prefer them around 20 though, and I've even seen santa reject a 35+ y.o. one night outside the angel.

As I recall he rejected her because she admitted to having taken a bath in the last month! :-)

David

Gualtier Malde
02-18-06, 05:23
There is a certain Bar that is familiar to the group here. I won't mention it's full name. If you don't know which one I'm talking about, that's OK. This bar has been discussed a number of times in this forum, and recently there has been some discussion.

However, the Mam^H^H^HBartender (a sweet older lady) has become worried about the visibility of this fine establishment, and has expressed to some who are locals and regulars on this forum that she is concerned that the forum will bring unwanted attention to her fine special gir^H^H^Hdrinks.

She has asked that we refrain from posting further information, and in fact asked us to post false or negative information. There have been some attempts to honor her wishes, but frankly I think that goes against the spirit of this forum, and it is just impossible to herd together all who visit this fine establishment for a drink, and keep them from remarking on how delicious these drinks can be.

So without consultation with the rest of the locals and regulars, I think it best to just agree as a group to refrain from posting on this fine establishment in the forum. Do you think we could all agree to that?

I really hope this note isn't considered a breach of trust between AG, PIT, AP, and me. If so guys, PM me and I will delete this note completely. I just think this is better than overt deceit of our fellow members.

I would be happy to provide information on this place to any senior member whose prior posts confirm they have actually spent time around Shanghai (ie, they've posted credible reviews about Shanghai rather than just asking for info). But frankly, there is already enough information in the forum to aid a would be visitor, so those questions should be few I would hope.

I would also like to applaud those who tried to actively respect the wishes of the Mama^H^H^H^HBartender through deceptive posts. Their hearts are in the right place. Please do not hold it against them. They are trying to preserve a venerable establishment beloved by the group.

David

Moody
02-18-06, 05:40
I have no idea about this bar you guys are talking about. I do however disagree that it should be kept quiet in order to comply with the owners wishes. I'm sure if asked, VERY VERY VERY few owners of establishments would like what goes on in their places publicly posted in a forum, but we do it anyway. This forum is about exchanging information, not to comply with the wishes of said owners. I strongly doubt that the stockholders of Sheraton Hotels wants it known what goes on in the basement of their hotel in Dongguan, but I've posted numerous times about it. I strongly doubt Paris Hilton wants it to get out that her family's namesake hotel in Shenzhen has one of the best hostess bars in town and that most of the hostesses are in reality, prostitutes. I have a strong suspicion that almost all of the girls posted in the "Photo Section" if they were told they were going to have their photo posted in a public forum about *****mongering, they too would have words to the contrary, but people do it anyway. The whole basis of this forum is to share information contrary to what other people want and that includes the service workers, the establishment owners, law enforcement, governments, and just about everybody else who wants to keep mongering on the down low. We share information with others so that they in turn will share information with us. We don't NOT share information simply because someone doesn't want us to, because for certain, there is always someone out there who doesn't want us to.

Ace Gallant
02-18-06, 06:06
As I recall he rejected her because she admitted to having taken a bath in the last month! :-)

David

Oh yah.... I remembered that one... Santa told us that the next day didn't he?

I was surprise too because isn't Santa into those shinky dirty little rabbits?

Santa
02-18-06, 11:37
Stinky, shinky, dirty rabbits are better breeders! Finger lickin' good!

Charlie Chaplin said "a day without laughter is a day wasted".

Traveler1234
02-18-06, 11:40
I have no idea about this bar you guys are talking about. I do however disagree that it should be kept quiet in order to comply with the owners wishes. .............. The whole basis of this forum is to share information contrary to what other people want and that includes the service workers, the establishment owners, law enforcement, governments, and just about everybody else who wants to keep mongering on the down low. We share information with others so that they in turn will share information with us. We don't NOT share information simply because someone doesn't want us to, because for certain, there is always someone out there who doesn't want us to.

Although I have only personally met one fellow monger from this board, my sense is the IQ level is quite high here and we can usually distinguish between accurate vs bias reporting - be it positive or negative. No knock on David or his suggestion but free press should prevail, right?

IMHO

Albert Punter
02-18-06, 15:13
Fortunately, so far I was able to manage in a way freebies do not get sticky.

Probably, because I only spend time with those who are happy just to have a sex friend, rather than thinking relation may evolving into something else.




If I find a freebie she will stick to me "like shit sticks to a blanket". No thanks!

Liam Latrine
02-18-06, 19:29
Hi Dave,

I expect I'll get a blasting from certain board members a) for agreeing with you and b) for the following remarks:

How can you guys be so narrow minded, selfish and lacking in any considersation or understanding of a "persons" personal request ? Are you so driven by you're mongering appetite that you care not a bit whether you help to destroy a persons livelyhood. It would obviously be no problem for you should someone decide to air your lesser known personality traits on any forum they choose to, or do you guys prefer to shave twice each morning ?

On this particular board are the following "general" groups:

1 - The traveller that basically can't be bothered to search, looking for a quick fix.

2 - The searchers and majority of posters who supply group 1 with the info (would that group one searched before asking) and get together to hunt in packs.

3 - Those of us that are here for the long term and appreciate finding places and or info and sharing it with such members who show respect (such as David) say through the "pm me" mode.

So for those of us in group 3, let's continue to be discrete and hope group 2 doesn't stumble on places we find which they deem acceptable to be closed down due to their lack of, dare I say, principles or morals (huge slating coming my way but someone's got to say it).

It is well documented in this forum of places after receiving attention shouted from the rooftops (due to just such a lack of thinking it through first), that were subsequently closed and did not return elsewhere. There's an abundance of quick fix places but few and far between ones that offer the facilities as David's MMS does

So Gents who disagree with David's very kind request - get off your high horse for a minute and turn the tables round and feel what it's like to have someone like your good selves standing on very low ground (as opposed to high) spouting off and the damage you cause in following your personal morals. Show some respect to the people you seem to want to spend so much time with - and remember, that they are people.

It is not my intention to start a slating thread, just gotta say something for once about the often "gungho" attitude I so often read in the forum and I do hope, for all our sakes, that none of us are in any such establishment after it's had a neon sign placed above it by some of us, when they are visited by our good friends (PC Plod) who obviously monitor this board.

Just give the above some thought guys - that's all I'm asking.

Liam


There is a certain Bar that is familiar to the group here. I won't mention it's full name. If you don't know which one I'm talking about, that's OK. This bar has been discussed a number of times in this forum, and recently there has been some discussion.

However, the Mam^H^H^HBartender (a sweet older lady) has become worried about the visibility of this fine establishment, and has expressed to some who are locals and regulars on this forum that she is concerned that the forum will bring unwanted attention to her fine special gir^H^H^Hdrinks.

She has asked that we refrain from posting further information, and in fact asked us to post false or negative information. There have been some attempts to honor her wishes, but frankly I think that goes against the spirit of this forum, and it is just impossible to herd together all who visit this fine establishment for a drink, and keep them from remarking on how delicious these drinks can be.

So without consultation with the rest of the locals and regulars, I think it best to just agree as a group to refrain from posting on this fine establishment in the forum. Do you think we could all agree to that?

I really hope this note isn't considered a breach of trust between AG, PIT, AP, and me. If so guys, PM me and I will delete this note completely. I just think this is better than overt deceit of our fellow members.

I would be happy to provide information on this place to any senior member whose prior posts confirm they have actually spent time around Shanghai (ie, they've posted credible reviews about Shanghai rather than just asking for info). But frankly, there is already enough information in the forum to aid a would be visitor, so those questions should be few I would hope.

I would also like to applaud those who tried to actively respect the wishes of the Mama^H^H^H^HBartender through deceptive posts. Their hearts are in the right place. Please do not hold it against them. They are trying to preserve a venerable establishment beloved by the group.

David

Shiofuki
02-19-06, 07:30
Hey bblover,

I don't know how much more descriptive I can be. Weihai intersects Yan An just West of Shan Xi. So if you go North on Shan Xi from Huai Hai, you make a left on Wei Hai. If you go South on Shan Xi from Nanjing then you make a right. Either way, walk on Wei Hai until you are just about to hit Yan An and it'll be on your right. The only BBS there. Wei Hai slants into Yan An so maybe that's what's throwing you off.

You should see her, she's about 5'6'', about a 9 in my books and got great big titties.

Enjoy and let me know if she's willing to come out and play.
MJ

I went to this place in November. The afternoon I went there were four varying from 4-6 in quality. All four worked on me for a total of 200.

Blacklisted
02-20-06, 10:31
Back you all the way mate. We must respect the wishes of the establishments owners. PM's are the way to go to sort out the riff raff. Hang on, that's me!!!



There is a certain Bar that is familiar to the group here. I won't mention it's full name. If you don't know which one I'm talking about, that's OK. This bar has been discussed a number of times in this forum, and recently there has been some discussion.

However, the Mam^H^H^HBartender (a sweet older lady) has become worried about the visibility of this fine establishment, and has expressed to some who are locals and regulars on this forum that she is concerned that the forum will bring unwanted attention to her fine special gir^H^H^Hdrinks.

She has asked that we refrain from posting further information, and in fact asked us to post false or negative information. There have been some attempts to honor her wishes, but frankly I think that goes against the spirit of this forum, and it is just impossible to herd together all who visit this fine establishment for a drink, and keep them from remarking on how delicious these drinks can be.

So without consultation with the rest of the locals and regulars, I think it best to just agree as a group to refrain from posting on this fine establishment in the forum. Do you think we could all agree to that?

I really hope this note isn't considered a breach of trust between AG, PIT, AP, and me. If so guys, PM me and I will delete this note completely. I just think this is better than overt deceit of our fellow members.

I would be happy to provide information on this place to any senior member whose prior posts confirm they have actually spent time around Shanghai (ie, they've posted credible reviews about Shanghai rather than just asking for info). But frankly, there is already enough information in the forum to aid a would be visitor, so those questions should be few I would hope.

I would also like to applaud those who tried to actively respect the wishes of the Mama^H^H^H^HBartender through deceptive posts. Their hearts are in the right place. Please do not hold it against them. They are trying to preserve a venerable establishment beloved by the group.

David

Pemcd
02-20-06, 15:43
Hey guys, after having read in the forum for ages think it is time for me to stop being shy and post my first report.

I have had a couple of good times with girls from yuki. Usually call her when I am bit drunk and ask for girls with big tits.

Two times had wen wen over and quite enjoyed her, she hs git big natural tits but service lacks a bit and is not as good as service received previously from apple/also one of yuki's regulars which mentioned previously in this threat.

Apple does the whole sauna/fire and ice/ass rimming (she is def the queen of ar) as if she has been doing nothing else in her life.

Usally pay 600 for 2 hrs all in.

Also had another girl over, very young, bit pimplish face but very very tight/young body with great little b/c cups - sorry do not remember her name. Kept her lt over night till 08 o clock for 1000 as it had been late usual fee is 1200 for lt if the girl does this which not all do, not a bad deal as I fucked her 4 times.

Can anyone recommend any other call services, especially girls with big tits? also bbs preferably downtown puxi for girls with big tits.

Thanks

Shadowcrest
02-20-06, 19:49
I do agree that some places should be held discreet. I am in favor of requesting a PM. I do a lot of travel and visit this forum a lot. It has given me some great tips on places in Mexico, Turkey, Czech Republic, Italy and others. Most of travels require me to be gone internationally about a week or less.

I also admit, I don't post a lot. I am seldom in a location that allows me to discover areas other than those already reported on.

I have never mongered in Shanghai so this trip will be an experience. I have traveled to Beijing frequently as well as Dongying, Baotou, Tianjin, and a few others I can't pronounce much less spell. I have found in China that as long as you treat these girls with respect. You are in for a great time.

Dewdrops
02-21-06, 03:19
I went to this place in November. The afternoon I went there were four varying from 4-6 in quality. All four worked on me for a total of 200.
Originally Posted by Shanghai Mj.

Hey bblover,

I don't know how much more descriptive I can be. Weihai intersects Yan An just West of Shan Xi. So if you go North on Shan Xi from Huai Hai, you make a left on Wei Hai. If you go South on Shan Xi from Nanjing then you make a right. Either way, walk on Wei Hai until you are just about to hit Yan An and it'll be on your right. The only BBS there. Wei Hai slants into Yan An so maybe that's what's throwing you off.

You should see her, she's about 5'6'', about a 9 in my books and got great big titties.

Enjoy and let me know if she's willing to come out and play.

I went to this place, but theres a proper hair cutting salon called 'hair culture ' on the right side with rotating lines.

I went there around 5 pm.

Thats it, nothing else there.

Is there any other one that maybe opens in the night?

Dewdrops
02-21-06, 03:30
Anyone knows any BBS or KTV or any other place where a pregnant woman is in service?

I went to a BBS a month ago and she was there, but later she had gone.

Eaglestar
02-21-06, 05:09
Just had another success on AFF. 30 year old from Hangzhou who lives in Shanghai now. Had to take her out three times before I got her into the sack but man was it worth the wait. Nice rack, BBBJ, FS and real GFE. Key is to offer her a real BFE I think.

Can pass info on PM only.

ES

Ace Gallant
02-21-06, 06:24
Hi Dave,

On this particular board are the following "general" groups:

1 - The traveller that basically can't be bothered to search, looking for a quick fix.

2 - The searchers and majority of posters who supply group 1 with the info (would that group one searched before asking) and get together to hunt in packs.

3 - Those of us that are here for the long term and appreciate finding places and or info and sharing it with such members who show respect (such as David) say through the "pm me" mode.

Just give the above some thought guys - that's all I'm asking.

Liam

Here are an input for all you guys:

All David is asking for is to keep the XX Pub alive and in order to do that, reduce the discussion on this board. I was one of the guys that heard the plea from mamasan saying that Authorities had been banging on their doors recently.

No point fighting on this board if the place is gone. Save the strenght in writting for mongering.

Hopefully this case is Closed, RIP!

Btw: I do not respect mongers looking for quick fix as I stand by the rules that this is not a Monger helpdesk! You RTFF and when in doubt PM the perticular member directly. If Type 1 members does not respect members who spent time posting why must the poster respect them?

Cheers!

Ace Gallant
02-21-06, 06:27
Just had another success on AFF. 30 year old from Hangzhou who lives in Shanghai now. Had to take her out three times before I got her into the sack but man was it worth the wait. Nice rack, BBBJ, FS and real GFE. Key is to offer her a real BFE I think.

Can pass info on PM only.

ES

Great to see you are getting ROI - Returns Of Investment.

Just word of caution: Do it as if you are playing of stocks, buy and sell quickly! Don't get stuck! I was stuck a couple times.

Cheers!

Cronin
02-21-06, 10:32
Hey big boys,

I'll be in the city that sits astride the river next week. I'll be in town from Tuesday, Feb 28 until Friday Mar 3. I usually hang with my good friend CaptainSH (who doesn't post much anymore), but I'm always keen to meet new friends. PM me if you want to exlore!

Cronin

PassinThrough
02-21-06, 12:26
Anyone knows any BBS or KTV or any other place where a pregnant woman is in service?

I went to a BBS a month ago and she was there, but later she had gone.Dewdrop,

OK, we got you like pregnant ladies, but do you have to keep posting every week? Go to Adult Friend Finder or better yet find a girl, get her pregnant and then have 9 months of pure fun.

PIT

LoveAsia
02-21-06, 12:37
Hey big boys,

I'll be in the city that sits astride the river next week. I'll be in town from Tuesday, Feb 28 until Friday Mar 3. I usually hang with my good friend CaptainSH (who doesn't post much anymore), but I'm always keen to meet new friends. PM me if you want to exlore!

Cronin

Sorry I missed you, Cronin. I am in Shanghai now (up from Shenzhen) and will go back south end of the week. Have a good trip.

LA

Gualtier Malde
02-21-06, 17:43
I'm going to miss you by a week, Cronin. Drat, I'd love to buy you a beer and head out on the hunt with you.

David


Hey big boys,

I'll be in the city that sits astride the river next week. I'll be in town from Tuesday, Feb 28 until Friday Mar 3. I usually hang with my good friend CaptainSH (who doesn't post much anymore), but I'm always keen to meet new friends. PM me if you want to exlore!

Cronin