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SeattleGman
11-07-02, 18:33
I will be in Beijing for the first time in December. I am looking forward to sampling the local cuisine ;-) Can anyone suggest a 4-5 star hotel w/action inside or nearby? I read some posts indication the New World China Hotel is good, but I haven't seen much other suggestions. Any advise would be kindly appreciated.
Intransit,
I tried Asianfriendfinder some times before but always with the same result: unexperienced vanilla gilrs. It makes me tired and unhorny to instruct them on a long and difficult way..... :-(
intransit:
You're right...it's Kerry Center, not Decary Center. However, I did do a search after reading your post and there does appear to be another post [back in August 8-14-02 by ILS05] that mentions that there are girls in the lobby.
I arrive the night of the 12th and have most of the 13th free. Maybe we could hook up and check out the action.
Thanks
Kevin
Originally posted by SeattleGman
I will be in Beijing for the first time in December. I am looking forward to sampling the local cuisine ;-) Can anyone suggest a 4-5 star hotel w/action inside or nearby? I read some posts indication the New World China Hotel is good, but I haven't seen much other suggestions. Any advise would be kindly appreciated.
SeattleGman - I heard the Hilton and Great Wall Sheraton has some activities, and they are close to Hard Rock and Passion Night Club. Passion is a real pick up place, with beautiful model type girls, tall and can really dance. But they are quite expensive. I heard they will sit and talk with you for 200 - 500 RMB a pop. But price will come down when they find no takers, and near closing time. For the right price they'll spend the night with you.
cheers,
mpfslover,
Never, NEVER pay a girl just to chat ! The "taifei" is a bullshit traditionnal tip which is valid for Chinese only, not for Foreigners. Only Chinese and Japanese are interested to pay a girl just for chat, and not necessarily f...ing. Make clear with the girl (but they generally know) that "laowai" don't accept that stupid game, and that they are only prepare to pay for sex. To avoid problems, it is often a good idea to make it clear to a girl before she sits down with you. It happens that even in some open places like a disco, nightclub, freelancers want a tip just for having chatted with you. Tell them NO WAY, the so called "old rule" does not apply for "laoway".
SeattleGman
11-09-02, 07:22
mpfslover -
Thanks for sharing your suggestions. As a matter of fact, I am booked at the Great Wall Sheraton. I picked it because it appeared to be in the same area as Maggies and the Sanlitun area. I'll share my experiences when I get back at the end of December.
Now who is this Chineselily???
Originally posted by chineselily
I made a quick one-night trip to beijing last week. Beijing is really one of the most sexually open cities in China. I was last in beijing about three years ago and things have certainly changed a lot.
On this particular trip I stayed at the Lido and a few minutes after I got into my room I saw a name card on the floor by the door. I didn’t notice it when I walked in and I suspect it was slipped in under the door after I had entered the room. It turned out to be a business card from Angel Escort Services, which suggests that it has been arranged by some hotel staff. The agency’s main phone number is *******while the contact person Zhou Li’s number is *******. I met her, 19,so nice a model I had never tasted.
Those of you who have read the Chengdu section lately will recall that I posted a long report there on Oct 26 regarding my trip to Chongqing. chineselily plagiarised the first two paragraph of my report and changed to location to Beijing. Anyone who cares to compare the two report can tell the striking similarities, except that chineselily didn't quote the phone numbers.
Now what are you trying to do, chineselily? Soliciting business for yourself or on behalf of somebody else? Who are you anyway? I vaguely recall an on-line escort who calls herself chineselily. Any connection there?
I do demand an apology and an explanation from chineselily. I hope my fellow hunters like member 49 and dick johnson didn't fall in any traps.
Happy and safe hunting to all!
woovictor,
Thanks for your post. I e-mailed said Chineselily after that post, requesting the phone number or e-mail address of Zhou Li and the service. The person that responded gave me an e-mail address. When I sent a message there, a woman replied saying her name was not Zhou Li and she had no idea what kind of "service" I was asking about. Sounds like something's rotten in Beijing.
SeattleGMan,
Technically the Sheraton is in the same area as Sanlitun, but that's a long hoof, esp. with girl in tow. If you see where it is in relation to Sanlitun, you won't think it's nearby.
That's doubly true for Maggie's. Maggie's is definitely a taxi ride away from the Sheraton.
KJM, I'm out of town all next week, so happy hunting.
Erik -
Agree with you. We save our precious RMB for the pursuit of our hobby.. I met a girl on that trip, and I brought her with me to Passsion to check out the place. We went to different bars and clubs to survey the scenes.
Originally posted by Erik
mpfslover,
Never, NEVER pay a girl just to chat ! The "taifei" is a bullshit traditionnal tip which is valid for Chinese only, not for Foreigners. Only Chinese and Japanese are interested to pay a girl just for chat, and not necessarily f...ing. Make clear with the girl (but they generally know) that "laowai" don't accept that stupid game, and that they are only prepare to pay for sex. To avoid problems, it is often a good idea to make it clear to a girl before she sits down with you. It happens that even in some open places like a disco, nightclub, freelancers want a tip just for having chatted with you. Tell them NO WAY, the so called "old rule" does not apply for "laoway".
Woovictor-
Whoever did this to your FR is a ******* !!
I have been a fan of your reports, as you always provide very good information and details of your findings. One could easily picked out all the similarities on the two reports, except the copied report has bits and pieces of info missing.
Keep up your good work. We like reading your FR.
cheers.
SeattleGman
11-10-02, 21:35
intransit -
You are correct. I downloaded a map of Beijing and Maggies is about 1.5 kilometers from the Sheraton! Definitely will need a taxi. I looked at other hotels noted on the map, but they are not easily booked from the USA. I am still seeking more conveniently located hotels near Maggies, but I haven't found any yet. Thanks for your insight.
Beijing Lover
11-11-02, 11:45
Stay in the City Hotel, just 200 meters from Maggies and next to the Den.
beijinglover
Originally posted by SeattleGman
intransit -
You are correct. I downloaded a map of Beijing and Maggies is about 1.5 kilometers from the Sheraton! Definitely will need a taxi. I looked at other hotels noted on the map, but they are not easily booked from the USA. I am still seeking more conveniently located hotels near Maggies, but I haven't found any yet. Thanks for your insight.
Happy Devil
11-11-02, 17:14
What's the deal about the taxi anyway??? There is nothing as easy as taking a taxi in Beijing - they are 24 hours available at pretty much every point in the city.
All you got to do is to take a biz card of the hotel you stay with you to show the driver when you want to get back. If you want to go to Maggies just say Maggies and if the don't understand tell them "Gonti" which means Workersstadium.
If you still don't find it go to Sanlitun and ask any white guy you see - he will know.
You might also ask the staff at the hotel, who will certainly know Maggies and write it down for you in Chinese or you can even go to the web page of Maggies and find the proper address there.
Have fun and don't panic - Beijing is not as difficult as one might think.
Happy Devil
Hi Happy Devil,
I try now about some weeks to visit the web page of Maggies.
But I get only error messages or website not found.
Do they have a new web-address???
Zambo
Dick Johnson
11-11-02, 22:03
Thanks victorwoo I didn't fall into any traps only someone who inquired me about zhou li. Sorry to hear some ******* plagiarize your writings. A bit funny actually, dont you think?
To follow up on my Nov 3rd post..
So I didn't find any action aroun Jin Lun and JiangGuo Hotel, where I was staying. There were no rows of females hanging around between the two hotels, as reported quite awhile ago on this site. However there was a woman(early 30s) and a man sitting, kinda hiding, behind 2 parked cars there. The woman ran towards me and asked me if I wanted company, I said :where?
She said she'll take me there. So she hailed a cab and we got to this KTV place which wasn't too shabby but wasn't high class either. She got me into a ktv room downstairs and brought 2 girls, actually there were only 2 available at the time. One was taller skinnier the other was a mongolian girl, 20, I think, and cutier. I have never been, or met to my knowledge, a mongolian girl before but boy was I surprised to find that she was quite attractive. Not an ounce of the materialistic/bitchy big city flavor. I wanted her but the woman who took me there kept telling me to get the other girl. "Better service' she said. Yeah right. I bet she wanted to keep the Mongolian girl in case another client comes over.
Someone brought over some peanuts and I think beer. I kept saying I don't want any of these but they said don't worry, it's cheap. I said I'm not eating it but they just left it there.
So the mongolian girl comes to the room and I kinda hit it off with her right away. We started kissing and I was feeling her up, her breasts under her bra.
So I said let's go to my hotel. She said she have to ask if she can leave. Or we can continue here. She went to ask if she can leave. I felt uncomfortable staying and fucking her there since there was a small window on the door and the room cannot be locked! And I noticed there were a few men working in the lobby.
She came back and told me she cannot leave. So I thought too bad, I'll go elsewhere, while the night is still young. I go up to pay the bill and they wrote me a bill of over 500rmb. I was with the girl less than ten minutes and no BJ, no HJ, no FS. Tokyo wasn't this expensive. There were a few 'tough guys' sitting around. I'm not cheap but neither am I a chicken so I said I didn't eat anything or do much with the girl and left 200rmd and quickly got out of the place.
Outside it was kinda a big street but middle of nowhere. I hailed a cab quickly and left.
The moral of the story is, in Beijing, generally when someone offers to take you some place, avoid it, as I learned a couple of days later again in Beijing. Unless of course you dont mind being ripped off.
Dick,
I am sorry to read that story. As I wrote several times on the China and Vietnam sections, in this 2 countries, and not only in Beijing, NEVER GO TO KTV OR KARA-OK if you don't know the place beforehand, especially when introduced by a stranger. This is ALWAYS the same ripp off, and I can tell you that you have been very lucky that the bill was only 500 Y and that thyey let you go by paying only 200 Y. It is generally much more and you don't go away with it so easily. Personnally, in China, I stuck to barbershops and discos.
Dick,
I've gotta agree with Erik on this one, rule numero uno in engaging in the hobby in China is NEVER GO WITH TOUTS. Frankly, you got away lucky with a 500 RMB tab and only paying 200. I had a friend who went with a tout, got charged 4000 RMB, got beaten up by said tough guys and paid the full whack.
Happy Devil
11-12-02, 08:59
Dick you are a luck bastard to get away with 200 bucks.
You all out there - never ever go with somebody offering to bring you to a KTV, lady bar or whatever other joint. Chances you get ripped off are very big and you usualy end up with a bill of several thousand bucks and two not so friendly looking guys!
If you end up anyway in one of the places make sure to ask for all prices (the room, the peanuts, the drinks, the fruit, the girl, the TV put on, the heating on, the light on - you get it?!) before parking your ass in the sofa.
If you are new in town stick to Maggies, Hard Rock, Henry J. Beans and the Den - not a guarantee, but chances for rip off are pretty slim there.
You can also check out the street action around the Kunlun hotel (see earlier posts) if you like that sort of action, but make sure you have a place to take the girl and don't go with her to her place.
Happy hunting
Dick Johnson
11-12-02, 12:52
I was a lucky son of a gun wasn't I? That was my first night. Later I went to Hard Rock and there were only about 5 girls there. Saw no one at Henry J Beans one night around 9pm. I went to Passions many times but that's another story.
Happy Devil
11-12-02, 15:15
Hey Dick
Tell us about your stories of Passion.
I heared a lot about it, but never really went there as everybody keeps on telling me how bloody expensive it is.
Henrey J. Beans only starts to get the ladies in after 9 pm, but to be honest I have never really been impressed with it - same goes for the Hard Rock.
Like it or not - the easiest way to get some fun without any hassle is to go to Maggies or to jump on a plane and go to any other city than Beijing.
Catch you at Maggies!
SeattleGman
11-13-02, 06:16
Zambo -
Go to Google and type Maggie's Bar Beijing. Click on "cached" and it will show you the stored info. Maggie's website appears to be down for maintenance.
I have been doing the Hard Rock/Maggie's routine the last couple of nights. Saturday night was OK, but things were prety dead Sunday and Monday (what else would you expect?). A handful of the Mongolian girls who make a regular appearence showed up all three nights. Same can be said for the Chinese girls. I really wonder why some of these girls keep comming back. I have seen some of the same girls there for years, and some seem to never get work. Oh well! FYI: all of these girls who show up on a regular basis have to pay security at the Hard Rock $200US per month, otherwise they will not be let in.
Talking with the girls it seems a lot of the Mongolians have gone home until all of the goverment meetings are over. I am sure you have all noticed the cops all over the city. A couple of girls mentioned that there are now some Mongolian men in Beijing "running" some of the girls. Mostly at the hollywood club. I have heard that this place can be a little rough, and Mongolian men have the reputation of having bad tempers. Too bad.
On the other hand, with all of this talk about rip offs, I want to go on record as saying that after 9 years of this hobby in Beijing and China I still feel safer in Beijing than just about any other major metropolis in the world.
I have noticed that as supply goes down the girls have been asking for more money. I have been asked for $200US on more than one occasion. Usually I will tell them I'll only give them $100 for all night (which I think is generous for even the most beautiful of Mongolian girl). If they balk I tell her to feel free to work the room, and if she cannot find any other business let me know before she is ready to go home. 99% of the time they come back to me and ask if I am ready to go 15 - 20 minutes later.
I disagree with the comments below regarding the taifei. If you are at a strip bar in the US you would not expect a lap dance for free, would you? For most of the Chinese girls working in these bars is their official job. If you talk with them, then expect to pay. Otherwise dont waste your (or her) time. Many nights I will go to Maggie's and talk/drink/dance with the Chinese girls working at the bar knowing full well I will have to tip them at the end of the evening. Y300 is considered a good tip. What is that, the cost of 2 lap dances in the States? This is how I have learned most of my putong hua. After a little drinking/dancing the prices with the Mongolian girls has droped to a reasonable level and I pick one out and go. The Chinese girls know what you are up to, and will offer you opinions and recommendations of the Mongolian girls (to be taken with a grain of salt). "She is new" "She never working" "She have many customers", ect.
If you want a map to maggies you can also get one from http://www.redbang.com/index.php?loca=108 It is right next to the Workers Stadium, which is the soccer ball on the map. You can also print a card to show the taxi driver.
Just got a call from the girl I was with last night. She's a cutie, and eager to please. I love mongolian girls! Guess I'll have her come directly here instead of going out. Less drinking and dancing and more tyme for playing!
I have never and I believe will never go to a lap dance in the US (nor UK where I live), because I think that is crap, compared to a Thai gogo bar. Morover, I am Asia orientated. My model is more Thailand than the US, and I am not used to pay anything than a lady drink.
"Taifei" is more in the Asian men mentality, who like to pay a girl for company only and not necessarily to f... her. In that respect, it is normal that the girl doesn't work for free. But we "laowai" are here for sex, so we pay only for that. Well, that is my point of view, and it is understood the girls who are not interesting in sex, but only in chatting and dancing. These girls avoid the "laowai" and stick to the Chinese and Japanese.
been reading this forum for months and having moved to beijing recently... here's my contribution...
Passion - the rooms are rmb2.5k a pop before you tip the girls and mama-san...so, the best option is go in a fairly large group... 4-5 to make it a little more reasonable... the quality of the girls are pretty good but have a little attitude. alternatively, you go downstairs to the disco area and pay rmb120 to get in with 1 free drink thrown in. best to get there early and then you have the pick of the girls before they get selected for the ktv rooms. the rule of the thumb is if they sit with you the rest of the night then thats rmb500 for them. i went once and have to say i wont go again. my buddy really fancied the girl who sat with him and ended up paying over rmb3k! for the pleasure of spending the night with her...
House - this was pretty interesting with the model show. i somehow managed to choose one of them to sit with me in the ktv room. apparently, the secret is to just pay the 80quai entrance fee and sit at the bar and you still get to pick the girls. obviously, the problem with picking one of the models is that they disappear for half of the night and also they may have other clients... but, a little less hardcore than passion and the girls are a lot friendlier.
Diamond Age - this is a place in the basement of Jianguo garden hotel... a very smart and upmarket place similar to passion but with less selection but the quality overall is a little higher. some girls actually wear a "uniform" which makes them look like a waitress... but, actually you can take them away once you have negotiated the price.
Unsure of what this place was called - but, it's in an alleyway opposite the club "kiss" by san yuan dong bridge, north of hilton hotel. The quality was decent but not great, but, they certainly put out!! and the place wasn't too expensive. 500 for the room and 300 for the girls. If the girl like you then she will leave with you at no extra charge! I have got the namecard somewhere, will post it next time.
thats about it folks for this time. later
Happy Devil
11-16-02, 10:45
Sammy - fully agree with you that it is the best way to learn Chinese. I pretty much learned all my chinese from bar girls although I usually don't pay them a big tip.
Guess it is up to everybody to decide if he wants to tip the girls or not - just make sure you sort the deal out first not to have any troubles at the end.
At Maggies I found it all to be rather fair. The Chinese girls for the bar tell you they woun't come with you right away if you ask them and don't lie about it all as in other palces.
It is always good to be nice to them and they will give you hints about the Mongolians there - made some very good experiance with this!!!
Joeyt - great post and finally some info. about other places than Maggies/Hard Rock and J. Beans - thanks man!
The best way to learn Chinese is from bar girls?
You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
If you want to sound like a ***** from Hunan province in front of all your friends and business associates, then by all means, take on a bar girl as your language instructor. Guys in Bangkok do this and then can't understand why no one takes them seriously when they speak Thai. Maybe it's because they sound like fucking peasants.
Think of it this way: most of your Chinese teachers probably wouldn't be amazing in the sack or tickle your fancy in the first place, so don't expect the girls you're bedding to be great teachers.
I have to agree with intransit on this one -- sorry Happy D. It's hard enough earning respect in China without the added barrier of speaking like a tu-ren. Some of the girls are helpful when it comes to practising the Chinese that you have already learned in class, you know -- language and fluids exchange.
MM
Dick Johnson
11-17-02, 12:14
I think happy D and sammy are talking about learning BASIC Chinese. Basic phrases for conversation. In that case even a girl from Hunan(and Intransit, most of the girls in Beijing ar NOT from Hunan)can teach you how to say "how much does it cost?" "Thank you etc.". And you probably learn faster cause you are in a good mood.
And intransit and muffinman, I get the impression both of you don't speak Chinese fluently.
Cuz I do.
A lao wai will always sound like a lao wai unless a LOT of time and effort is spent, and even then he will probably still sound like a lao wai to a Chinese.
Dick Johnson
11-17-02, 12:31
Joeyt's posts are pretty accurate. At Passions the cover changes slightly on the different days of the week, but that's the least of your concerns. It'll typically cost around 1000rmb just to sit around with a female(cover+taifei(500)+drinks+fruits+tips+room if applicable). Chicks have told me between 3000-5000 to go out. But thats negotiable. Usually no more then 3000. One chick went out with me for 2000 but she's not the hottest.
I didn't go to Maggie's dammit since the government shut down most of the internet cafes in Beijing and also this website is blocked in most places, including inside Sheraton Hotel LOL.
Dick,
You're dead wrong. My Chinese is fluent, and yes, I know most Beijing girls aren't Hunanese. That said, there aren't many working girls who sound like Qinghua graduates. Yes, learning basic phrases and anatomy are fine from essentially any native speaker, but for true mastery bar girls are not the way to go.
how fluent is fluent? i have practised mandarin for ages and can get through with it pretty well. even a business discussion is possible. but mastery? for a western lao wai? i guess the span of one life time is not long enough to get there, no matter if we try to learn from a bar girl or from an academic. our chinese counterparts automatically decrease the level of difficulty while speaking to us anyway.
and let's not stereotype about bar girls. some of them are actually quite well educated, speak a decent english, and for sure a mandarin that is better than ours.
Loafer,
Don't buy into that propaganda about how the Chinese language is impenetrable by foreigners. Look, 700 million rank-ass peasants can speak it. It can't be that hard.
You are absolutely right--some of the girls ARE very well educated. K**** is just as interesting out of bed as she is in, for example.
can't believe you guys are arguing over something like this instead of providing valuable information
but since I'm here I might just well add something :)
I'm a native speaker and I've heard lao wai speak chinese,
TRUST ME, the last thing you have to worry about is to
pick up a local dialect or whatever from a farm girl, learn
the damn basic phrases first. if you are good enough that
you are worrying about your 'accent', then you don't have
anything to worry about
the farm girls' chinese sure as hell sound a LOT better than
some of these lao wais I know(yeah that's you guys, haha)
Dick Johnson
11-18-02, 04:23
Thanks loafer we are in agreement.
Intransit, I may be wrong about your being able to speak Chinese but everything else I said is right. And you agree that learing basic English from a bar girl is all right and a lot more fun.
To master the Chinese language one would need to enroll in the University and spend years to study one of the most complex and beautiful languages in the world.
(And even then most laowais still sounds like a laowai, though comanding a little more respect from the Chinese.)
Dick Johnson
11-18-02, 04:26
davidc is exactly right, just like a farmgirl in USA will still sound alot better then a newly arrived mainland Chinese.
May I contradict!
Mandarin is a very easy language to learn. Easy rules, little grammar, easy times handling. It's far easier the English.
The only problem is their stupid writing system. But no need to learn anyway as <30% of the population does not write or read.
dynasty night club at the basement of prime hotel, anyone been
there?? is it any good?
Dick Johnson
11-20-02, 07:44
Mandarin. Easy to learn. I said difficult to MASTER.
master mandarin? -- who gives a shit really. it's fun to learn and the beijing peeps are pretty supportive.
so anyway, i have a question: have you ever noticed how some asian girls are kinda short and don't weight a whole lot either and yet, *some* have the biggest, meatiest pussies you've ever seen? not all of them -- for sure. most have little tiny ones with a little patch of fuzz atop, but every once in awhile you run into a real juicy meat pie on a shrimp of a girl. sometime i do a double-take just to make sure i'm mounting the same girl.
i'm trying to figure out if there is some external physical characteristics (lips, face, ears, hands, etc) that might give you some hint a girl is packing three pounds of roast beef between her legs. some guys like it, some guys don't -- but i'm just trying to find out if you can tell before you whip her panties off. any of you seasoned vets know how to tell? i think this would make a great research project.
mm
Just a note. Mandarin is a language where very little gets you quite far. With 100 words plus the numbers you can survive. I never had problems with gals.
Happy F'king to all of you!
I'd be shocked if that's the case, but if anyone can verify, please let us know.
FYI, Henry J's was deader than disco tonight when I stopped by (strictly for food, I wasn't shopping tonight). I saw the one girl I recognize getting into a cab at 10:30, and with another girl, so that can't be good.
Dick Johnson
11-21-02, 22:19
When I was there Henry Bean was dead too.
From my experience, Bean's is where they go early (8:30-9ish) to have a drink, ease into the evening and maybe tag an early score . After that they go towards Hard Rock or Sanlitun.
As far as Bean's goes, last Saturday the place was chock-full of sloots. Don't give up on my man Hank.
KN
Help: I'll be staying at the Taiwan Hotel near wangfujing the first week of December. Can anybody tell me if there is any action at this hotel?
Thanks
Fishmonger
11-22-02, 04:09
Muffinman - wow, thanks for the ultra-vivid mental picture. Ever since reading your post I can't get the image of a cute, slender young Chinese girl with a gargantuan, pulsating, glistening "3 pound roast beef" between her legs. I think it will be a while before I DATY again, or eat roast beef again! I wonder if there is any correlation between the facial lips and the labial lips? Please conduct a thorough study and publish your results here. Do the large, meaty pussies smell or taste different?
went to henry's wednesday night, pretty lame ass
one girl came up to me, she talked to me for quite a bit
then offered to go back to my hotel, I pretended I
didn't know what the hell she was talking about cuz
she really wasn't that hot. her friend that was sitting
on the same table was pretty cute, so I went up and
talked to her then we came back to my table, but I don't
think she's a 'working' girl, cuz she wanted to be my
girlfriend for the long run, I was like no thanks, I need
somethign for tonight. this is my first time in the beijing
scene so I'm still a rook, and there were 2 girls sitting
next to me who were eyeing me the whole damn time
but they never went up and talked to any of the foreigners
there and I didn't want to act like a fool and accost them
then went over to maggies, actually tried to go to maggies,
the 2 fucking security guards told me I need a membership
card to get in, of course cuz I'm asian, I told them to fuck off
and headed over to the den. the den, according to the owner,
who's a pretty cool guy, is always packed except the night I
was there, it was a big sausage fest, like 40 guys and 5 girls,
and when I got there there wasn't a girl that I would want to
take back to my hotel. but then BOOM!! this AMAZING chick
walks in, holy shit she was freaking hot, amazing boobs and
body and such a cute face, she was with this girl with blonde hair who seems to know everyone in the bar. I just went up and
chatted with them, the girl I want is definitely NOT a working
girl, I would shell out all I had to get with her though :)
so seeing no action anywhere I decided to go back to my hotel
alone, good thing I called up kidnova and he hooked me up
with this chick's number so I called her over
beijing is pretty lame now, maybe I don't know where to go,
it was funny cuz the den has a big sign outside that said
something like we are strongly against prostitution, it was
kinda ironic
Things are quiet due to this leadership meeting.
I live in the South and all the local bars, discos are closed because of this. Might be getting better now as MR Who has been choosen.
Doctor_Skank
11-22-02, 10:53
Yo Muffinman...
I have also been fascinated by the varying pussies on Asian girls. Although I prefer the small almost hairless type pussy, which is truly one of the finest things this world has ever known... a meaty juicy and wooly-bushed one is also a treat. Haven't noticed any particular characteristic that will betray the pussy type under those tight jeans. I will immediately start conducting research! Have you noticed any racial correlation here?
Later...
Seems like the 45-50kg girls have enormous pussies and the heavier meaty ones. Can't say i mind either though.
Doctor_Skank
11-23-02, 20:59
I found Korean pussy to be the finest... tight, wet and only peach fuzz up top... Thais were often quite wet and wooly, Filipinas as well. Not much experience with Chinese women... are they characteristically one way or the other or does it vary wildly?
I been with quite a few different nationalities and Chinese girls are the best. But they do vary. Their pussys smells delicious thou.
Japs are a bit stinky.
Well it doesn't seem like anybody has any info on the physical correlations between the pussy and any other part-o-th'-body. Believe me, I've been working on this for some time. At first, I thought the most obvious must be the answer -- facial lips vs labia... as mentioned in an ealier post. But, then I met a skinny girl with thin lips and small hips and a big fat pussy with 3-inch inner lips hanging way low. Did I mention she is friendly too? Anyway....
Let me tell you a story... I have friend who is a mammasan for an entertainment center in Thailand. And if you visit those places, you know that westerners are charged more than Asians. The common reason given is that westerners have big dicks or last longer and therefore have alot more wear and tear on the girls. Well, that sure makes the customer feel good and all, but let's be real, there are lots of westerners with little dicks. And there surely must be Asians with big dicks (I'm guessing). The conversation with my friend drifted to how to determine a guys size. She said point blank, "it's the size of a man's ears, measured from the top to the lobe." Huh? I said. I always thought shoes size, hands, height, nose, etc. She said, "that could be related, but the ears never lie." Well, I figure she's seen a alot more dicks than I have and she knows enough pros who can help do the research.
So back to this skinny girl with the big pussy -- she did have big ears -- thick and long with big ear lobes. Now just the other day, I was fucking this girl with a sort-of-meaty pussy, but she is not so deep ("damn shallow" might be the right expression). She has thick ears but not so long. Hmmmm.
Can some of you guys help corraborate this correlation? I just can't fuck enough girls to get a good sample all by myself -- I'm getting old.
BTW - Asian girl's pussy generally lack smell and taste, from my experience -- regardless of how many kg of meat she has. I used to think this was a racial thing, but now I'm convinced it's related to diet. I have yet to come across (ha-ha) any girls (Asian, Russian, or Canadian -- that would be the list of nationalities that I've fucked in China) who eat a typical Asian diet and have a detectable scent. The Japanese pussies -- mentioned in a previous post -- probably belong to girls who like American fast food, or fuck alot and don't clean themselves properly.
MM
Doctor_Skank
11-26-02, 16:13
The ear test...right now I'm fumbling around with my ear and hoping its huge! Ha ha. Can't say I've ever noticed a girl's ears... do they have them? Research...and lots of it... seems to be the only answer to this dilemma.
Smells...never noticed an Asian girl smeling...but generally have had good luck with women in general. Some girls do taste tangy though, even if they are super clean... must be the diet. Asians often complain that Westerners smell...due to our consumption of red meat.
The complaint about Westerners being odiferous generally relates to our consumption of dairy products.
many young chinese do consume just as much dairy products as westerners do. i think a lot of this "westerners smell" bollocks is just parroted by too many people who don't even have a single first-hand experience.
What is that smell?
I don't think dairy products are the issue -- I agree many Asians eat lots of dairy... consider the amount of yoghurt consumed in Beijing (or in the north in general) -- and how tasty it is!! I think the sheer amount of red meat in the western diet may be the culprit. I understand that it takes considerable effort for the human body to digest red meat -- perhaps the smell is related to an increased amount of digestive juices needed to breakdown meat. I'm not a doctor, so I don't really know.
Here's an interesting factoid (that I'm not sure is true or not, but it makes sense)... I've heard that Asians have more pores in their skin (not all Asians, but most depends on their genetic makeup). This accounts for the lack of body hair and impression that they don't sweat. This has the added disadvantage of making them feel colder compared to westerners given the same temperature. These are just some genetic distinctions related to the climate; Asian bodies are generally built for hot mountainous regions -- stocky, small noses, etc. This is definately a generalization. Believe me, there are some hairy Asians with long noses and long legs who sweat buckets in moderate temperatures -- primarly from the northern regions of Asia (Mongolia, northern Japan, parts of Korea, etc).
Anyway, let work on that lobe research and get some stats!!
Thanks,
MM
Hi
I'm french and I don't know the US condom Trojan, those who are sell (by three in a box) in the street shop...Are they good?
Thank you
I've heard from more than one source that the smell comes from dairy more than red meat. Years ago I dated an American girl who was vegan (no meat, no dairy diet) and her pussy didn't taste at all! Nothing! I couldn't believe it. I also dated a beautiful black woman who ate cheese and creamy salad dressing and basically dairy at every meal, and I couldn't go near her puss - smelled and tasted like a fish had died (even right after a shower). Can't explain the yogurt thing, although the Chinese girls I've dated don't seem to go for yogurt or any other dairy - they absolutely hate cheese.
Lobo
Hello everybody
Actually this post is just to check if I'm a senior or regular member.
But I'd better add some relevant stuff.
I have been in China almost 2 years. I live not far from Beijing. Several times a week I go to a massage place near my house (there are dozens of these). My favorite is one with Wenzhou girls. They don't know any english and in fact normally speak Wenzhou hua to each other - which I don't understand. I read somewhere here that these girls are not attractive and are devious....this is quite the opposite of my experience. Not only that, they are also good fun - relaxed and like to joke around. I have got friendly with one in particular. She is very good looking - slim, tall, long legs etc. Haven't slept with her yet but will do so soon - she doesn't seem to be primarily motivated by money, instead told me to stop chasing other xiaojie.
I also have another friend who I met about a year ago in a rather more downmarket massage parlour in a dark back street. Shagged her in a nearby room for 100Y and still see her occasionally, very nice girl but she plays some sort of state lottery, which drives me mad. Thinks she's got a system to win.
There're also several colleges where it's easy to meet girls - but many students are very poor and, generalising a little, their personal hygiene isn't the best.
All in all though, small town china isnt a bad place to be.
hamia
Originally posted by emric89
Hi
I'm french and I don't know the US condom Trojan, those who are sell (by three in a box) in the street shop...Are they good?
Thank you
Trojan is the largest selling US brand. They are fine.
Fishmonger
11-28-02, 04:41
OK, the evidence seems convincing that dairy is the culprit. What someone needs to do now is come up with a pill that women can take that would eliminate the "dead fish" smell even if they eat a lot of dairy. Just think, this could be like Viagra, imagine how many women (and their husbands/boyfriends) would be lining up to buy this product. You could charge almost as much as you liked. And you'd be doing something truly great for Mankind. OK, someone please start working on this!
Hamia:
Any hints where the Wenzhou girl you are talking about is? Would you like to share? I am living just outside of Beijing for two years, 5 minutes from home are dozens of "shampoo shop" but never try them out..... may be we are in the same area.
email: hot109175@hotmail.com
New pussy-eaters marketing campaign...
Got Milk?
Go Away.
How's that lobe research going? I'll have another sample for you guys tomorrow night.... met another massage girl at her place of business. They can't fuck in the place, but on their once-every-2-weeks day off, they are looking for dinner & dick. She has small thick ears and tells me she has a "small room" -- how cute is that?
MM
French dude (sorry forgot your handle),
I'm not a big fan of Trojan. It's a repuatble brand but if you find that some of the condoms on the market are a bit too tight, you can try a brand called "InSpiral". Has extra head room so you can move around a bit and is very comfortable. I've only been able to find them online or at Condomania in Singapore.
MM
Fishmonger,
I start working on it right now.
What "flavour" might be acceptable/appreciated/expected ?
Strawberry ? Banana ? Cheesecake ? Chocolate ? Mint ?
Let me know.
I think one could develop a pill or a syrup that would give a better taste and smell yes. Fluid could be master I think.
It would be a kind of deodorant to take from inside. Workable on a chemist and pharmaceutical point of view.
Let me have your comment and I'll come back to you.
As far the size is concern, my personal experience is also showing me that the smaller the ear and the mouth openning (check this point too !) the smaller the ****. Big mouth are wide both side ! So check also when the girl yawn or eat !
Muffinman,
your "ear research" is nice to read and will bring a lot fun to the different bars in Beijing!
I can imagine that in future most of western customers will visit
the bars equipped with a ruler - after a quick "Hello" the girl will show their ears - no view to the breast or legs....
Next step will be a run of girls to the local facial surgery for making their ears smaller and on the opposite heavy weights on men ears will boom....
;-)
Looking forward to more points to the theme!
alex.
P.S. My ears are 8 cm long - how long have my penis to be?
Hamia
I am living in Beijing. Where do you live. I have a lot of spare time. I would like to try out the massage scene. Does anyone know any good places in Beijing please.
Thot I should give my 2 cents worth to the discussion on BO.
I hv experienced both Asians & Europeans and agree that the former has less BO. Fr my experience living in Europe, it is not uncommon to shower once in 2 days (if not more in winter). In Asia, eg Guangzhou and further south, you shower every day.
Asian girls (eg Chinese in Malaysia) do take good care of themselves. They may not hv big tits but they are generally clean.
The worst I experience was a girl fr Algeria. The BO stuck in my mind after 25 yrs.
Is it the diet ? I believe it is contributary. Chinese lack an enzyme to digest milk related product readily. Hence on the whole they do not like such products or it causes diarrhoea for them. In addition, Asians (in particular Chinese like only bland meat - pork & chicken). They tend to avoid strong smelling meat like mutton or beef (Buddhist will not eat). What u eat is what u are ?
Also, Asian girls perspire less.
Latest research notes...
This girl is about 170cm tall and on the thin side. She has small ears, but kind of thick (heavier folds of skin on the edges). I told her about the research and she thought that sounded interesting so she let me look at her pussy with the light on (after dinner and shower). She said she was tight but deep. Her pussy just looked normal -- nothing out of the ordinary. Labia wasn't large and meaty or thin and wiggly... jsut kind of dark like her lips and nipples. Her nipples were large like pencil erasers. Deep she was... but even after entering slow (she was tight) and giving her a rogering she complained of pain in her abdomen. So she's not unusually deep.
This girl works in a massage place. So I asked her about dick sizes on behalf of you curious readers. She estimates that she has stroked over 500 dicks and stuck her finger in about as many asses. (Mind you, I avoided holding her hand after that revelation.) She said Chinese guys including Tawainese and Hong Kong had the smallest dicks and had no lasting power, but tended to be very hard. Japanese guys had big dicks. And foreigners had the largest but the sample size (she's stroked about around 50 foriegners). I didn't ask about black guys or specific nationalities among the foreigners.
I asked her if she noticed any correlation between body parts and dick size. She said, "big nose, big dick". I tried to clarify, "long nose?" She grabed the bridge of my nose and my dick and explained that if the bridge of the nose (just below the eyes) is big than that means you got a big dick. I asked about ears, hands, feet, height -- she said she has seen a few guys with small feet and big dicks. She laughed alot after that and gave me a blow job. At that point, I was unable to ask questions - and she was unable to answer.
One last point - I stuck a finger in her pussy during my pre-coitus inspection and took a good whiff (of my finger). I try not to eat out massage girls since I don't know how many other guys they are fucking, so no word on taste. But as far as smell goes, she had none at all. This is a girl who claims to eat a Big Mac for lunch everyday. For those of you unfamilier with the composition of a Big Mac, they have 2 patties of beef (and/or soybeans), and 2 slices of cheese.
Tomorrow night I'll be banging an old friend - another massage girl. This one is very pale and has the perkiest tits I've ever seen, a really pretty mouth and a fat, juicy pussy. Best of all she can do things with her pussy muscles I can't even figure out. It's like she has control of three sets of muscles -- we've played some games counting them. I'll try and get a good look at her snatch and ears and report back. Anyway the research continues...
MM
TVslave4U,
I don't know the dick size to ear size ratio. I don't really want to ask my Thai freind about this since it's a bit too direct for Thai culture. Besides I'm not so sure that she has computed the relationship in term of numbers.
If I were you I wouldn't worry too much about it - your dick is as big as it is. There's not a whole lot you can do about it. Besides, if this correlation is true, then Micky Mouse has us all beat.
MM
Hey -- Anybody have any old John Holmes movies? Do his ears look unusually large?
happychap,
Asians avoid eating beef and mutton? Where are you getting this information? You must be talking about southerners. The Chinese in the west and the north consume lots of beef and mutton and are known to drink dairy on a daily basis in the form of yoghurt and milk -- you can get fresh yoghurt in little grey jars every morning all over Beijing for about 1.5Y. Ever hear of "yang rou pao mo" (from Xi'an and further west) or "shuang yang rou" (primarily attributed to HeiLongJiang)? And add to that the fact that the westerners and northerners I've come across (literally) have neither BO or smelly pussies... but they should brush their teeth more often.
MM
Muffinman you are damn right, Chinese in Beijing/Northern China eat more mutton and drink more yoghurt (they called those sour milk) than western guys, in fact some of them drink yoghurt every morning, yes the grey jars with a piece paper covering it selaed with a rubber band, amazing? but the body odour is really related to either Chinese garlic and/or those preserved/pickled veggie (ditto to the Korean smell) or Chinese white wine like "Er Guo Tou". I have tested my driver on that. I have a friend she's a dancing teacher, that means tall and slim....she likes me but I just can't get close to her - it's the smell that turns my appetite off! And, I am so sure it's the hot pot soup base makinf her smelly, which has lots of pepper and garlic.
HOng KOng girls should not be that smelly because they don't usually drink yoghurt, don't usually eat mutton, don't drink Chinese white wine. don't like garlic, and hot pot in Hong Kong is totally different from those in China - no garlic, no preserved veggies.....
tell me if I'm wrong.
For the guys (like ronco_2) looking for massage place. Wang Fu hotel (Not Palace hotel, it's easy to mix-up) in downtown has FS package around RMB1,500. The one at the basement of Landmark (nice place, Hong Kong quality) looks clean and a real/proper massage place, it is, but most of the girls are ready to offer BJ for additional RMB500. If you really want a nice massage, they have Thai style to, real good technique.
Anyone wants to see pretty Chinese girls - Vics and Suzie Wong are the hottest. But mind you these places are more for looking and nothing like Henry J Beans, Magggie's, Hardrock, etc.
btw, Havana is really dead.
happychap,
where in Europe did you get your "experience"?????
In Albania or far east deep in Russia????
You wrote that it is in Europe
>"not uncommon to shower once in 2 days (if not more in winter). "
That´s fully stupid!
I can tell you that in Europe people are using the shower twice a day (especially in summer if it is possible more....).
Only in some European countries with less living standards (Albania, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia and former Soviet Republic) poor people don´t have the chance to use shower so often as they want!
BTW - all Chinese girls I spent some days together was very clean!
At last:
I have never met European or Asian girls which did not use the common (ladies) shower after sport and did not change their clothes.
Only American girls left sport hall full sweat and with sport clothes going for a drink or a meal....
Alex.
ever experienced a chinese girl climaxing? then you will know that they DO sweat. but i agree, their body smell is normally very nice. just beware of that garlic aroma, not uncommon in Beijing. it can be comatosing.
When I'm with a young lady (the company of whom several members of this board have enjoyed) I know if I'm doing a good job when I'm on top and she's breaking a sweat. Chinese girls absolutely do sweat but they're not stinky.
Then again, what the fuck is the average Chinese guy eating? I was in a cab today and the driver stank so badly I had to open the window. Is the smoking, not brushing one's teeth, or what?
Happy Devil
12-02-02, 09:47
hmmmmm.... guess it's a bit of all the contributes to the fact that Asian women smell less or not at all.
food, cigarettes and alcohol do for sure have an impact on ones smell, but then down in Guangdong Province I know a girl that eats dog, drinks and smokes like a pirat and doesn't smell at all.
Hey... who cares anyway - let's just enjoy.
About the ears - I rather don't belive all this you say - have been told I have small ears, but never thought that my package was small.
HD,
I'm not saying that I know anything about the ears situation... It's just what I've been told -- from various sources. The objective wasn't to evaluate men's packages. I'm trying to find out about WOMEN's packages. So would everyone stop looking at their ears and find some girls?
Seen any good ones lately?
Anyone try the sauna at the basement of the Landmark? Saw one post on it -- can anyone else comment? prices? quality? service options?
MM
Whether one smells or not depends on personal hygine only. Sauna gals are usually best coz they shower with the customer 3 times a day.
Barber shop gals shower less coz barber shops have only rudimentary washing facilities. Limited supply of hot water makes people also think twice before cleaning.
Strong sweat smell developes only after a few days without shower. Or even with frequent showers, if you never change your clothes.
Strong vaginal odor (which is NOT sexy) can point to a yeast infection.
Food has a limited effect on body fluid smells and tastes. Strong food will lead to advers vagina/semen taste & smell. More sweet food will imrove it. A fruit only vegetarien would be perfect.
Since I only go to Sauna places with excellent shower facilities and always shower with the gal - and clean her throughoutly too - I have no problem here.
...but there is still athlets foot....
muffinman:
I like your name, do you sel muffin? where can I buy good bran muffin in BJ? like those at Baker's Dozen, Mister Donuts, Tim Horton's?
Regarding the sauna place underground landmark:
-Very clean place, not much business though, When I was there ther waere running a 20% off promotion.
-Definitely not a place open for any kind of sex activities. Yo don't get to choose the girls anyway.
-Most girls (a girl told me) would offer HJ for RMB500 tipping but not more.
-a good place to really get a good massage afterall.
intransit:
the smell from Beijingese (and the North Eastern et al) is, as I said before, caused by Chinese white wine (mostly for men) and garlic (mostly for girls, hot pot, baby lobster, etc. Lots of garlic in their cuisine). many of them almost eat garlic straight. And also may be contributed by bathing habit 9mostly for taxi drievrs, they work in their car at least 12-16 hours everyday.
Happy Devil
12-02-02, 13:02
Hey Muffinman
Good to see you are still around - when will we continue our massage mission again?
I kind of hoped you were only trying to find out about the girls relation of ears and peach - would have scared me quite a bit after we went to the massage place together (hahah).
I kind of always check their hands. If their hands are small they have small peaches and if their long they are bigger I found, but guess there are always exceptions.
Will check it out regarding the ears, but then I think that a girl with smaller hands usually has smaller ears too and smaller feet and therefore a smaller pussy.
DayNight seems to be an expert about body smells - thanks, but can you explain why Asian women usualy smell less than western - can't be that they shower more!?
And as we are already with the subject - did anybody ever realize that women with a slight mustache (we sure all hope they wax it) are hornier in bed???? Anything to do with hormones???
Muffinman,
The theory is confirming.
Had one nice fgirl in Shanghai on Saturday night and 2 on Sunday night. The small ears have small cunts. The midium to large have a medium to large one.
Still counting and measuring.
Wolf
Paris_20001
12-02-02, 17:31
Hi,
Quick question, any massage place around the Hilton ?
By the way, I'll meet KXXX next week, I'll provide you some feed back.
Thanks
Fishmonger
12-03-02, 07:14
Daynight, I have to beg to differ ... while it seems like good hygiene would lead to good smelly pussies, it simply isn't so. I had a few girlfriends in the US whose personal hygiene was impeccable and they still had stinky pussies. I tend to believe the diet theory, and/or some racial differences.
What we need is a real "scientific" study. We need a group of say 100 girls of different ethinc backgrounds, and then we need to put them on varying diets (i.e. 2 weeks Vegan, 2 weeks lots of red meat, 2 weeks lots of dairy), and we need to have a panel of expert judges rate their pussy on taste and smell. OK, let's get this going! Who wants to be a judge?
fishmonger
OK, I will help with your study and join the expert panel. Let the pussies in! Seriously, I too had some exposure to a number of different nationalities and races and can't tell a difference. At least not in terms of smell. Pussies do smell if they skip one single shower.
The bad smell experiences I remember:
My Euro G/F after skipping a shower (quickly fixed)
A Chinese barber shop gal recently (perfect figure!)
A cambodian 'Pro' (period time, lost 2 litres of blood that night, bed and mattress destroid, finger smelled for 3 days)
PS: Did you all know that the most successfull achievement by the Chinese Communist Party so far is the complete eradication of prostitution?
I think this is the dumbest topic I've read about on a board in a long time, and it sucks that this seems like all we have to talk about in Beijing. This is the most active board in the China sub-category, and China is one of the top five categories for the whole world. We need to do a bit better than this. I've been fucking some regulars lately, but I'll endeavor to do better and explore some new territory if everyone else will too.
Intransit,
I understand your frustration.
So -- anybody know any FS sauna places in Bejing? Please include prices.
MM
Hi all -
Just wondering if anybody have used FunInChina.com's service recently? Any feedback appreciated!
I haven't used it but I gather from people I've talked to that it's not actually a hooker booker. Apparently one or two girls from the site put out in exchange for me, leading people to think they all would. However, it seems to be an actual secreterial services, and except for those one or two who want to do more than take dictation, the others will be offended and upset if you expect them to sleep with you.
Dick Johnson
12-04-02, 06:25
Originally posted by DayNight
fishmonger
PS: Did you all know that the most successfull achievement by the Chinese Communist Party so far is the complete eradication of prostitution?
What can we do to stop it, or at least reduce the damage as much as possible?
Correction to my earlier post: it should say, "in exchange for money," not "in exchange for me." I don't know anyone who would want that.
Anyone out there have any good contact info for girls?? please email me, it's been pretty pricy for me so far.
thanks
davlee88@yahoo.com
Originally posted by Happy Devil
Hey Muffinman
Good to see you are still around - when will we continue our massage mission again?
I kind of hoped you were only trying to find out about the girls relation of ears and peach - would have scared me quite a bit after we went to the massage place together (hahah).
I kind of always check their hands. If their hands are small they have small peaches and if their long they are bigger I found, but guess there are always exceptions.
Will check it out regarding the ears, but then I think that a girl with smaller hands usually has smaller ears too and smaller feet and therefore a smaller pussy.
DayNight seems to be an expert about body smells - thanks, but can you explain why Asian women usualy smell less than western - can't be that they shower more!?
And as we are already with the subject - did anybody ever realize that women with a slight mustache (we sure all hope they wax it) are hornier in bed???? Anything to do with hormones???
I always thought the hand theory was valid. But then you run into a girl with small hands and large fruit... peach or papaya, that is -- not banana, of course.
As soon as I return to the cold dusty city, we should resume our hunt for the ultimate sauna in Beijing.
Horny mustached women -- yes indeed. I have a friend in HK that swears that girls with more meat on their ass are definately hornier. Another buddy of mine says girls with long noses like giving blow-jobs. I'm begining to think that it just depends on the girl. Anyway, it's an area needing more research.
Originally posted by Papadum
muffinman:
I like your name, do you sel muffin? where can I buy good bran muffin in BJ? like those at Baker's Dozen, Mister Donuts, Tim Horton's?
I'm no muffin salesman. Although the big hotels like the Grand Hyatt should have a fairly good selection..
I'm just your average FZ fan.
MM
I left Beijing two weeks ago after being there for four months. I am really suffering from a case of yellow fever. I miss BJ!
I do not post often here but like to check in once in awhile.
I am after the gf experience, not the hookers. Though this is really easy in BJ if you know someone who can introduce you. Isn't that right Kidnova????
Of course you pay for it one way or the other, sometimes a one nighter can be a hell of a lot cheaper than someone full time. But of course you get more for your money with the long term variety.
My work involves meeting a lot of single, young, beautiful professional women and many of them ask if I know any foreign guys. I will be back in BJ on January 7th for two months. My email is kodakjs@hotmail.com. Email me, maybe we can hook up for an evening on the town.
For any of you out there in search of the GFE I highly reccomend you giving our man kodakjs an email. I've been smiling for the last month...
KN
Thanks for the kudos KN. I am glad things have worked out for you.
Powertoolz
12-10-02, 22:19
mmmmm.....garlic
Paris_20001
12-13-02, 14:44
Just retrun from Beijing. Spend the night with Kitty.
She's fabulous... unforgettable experince !
Paris
Visited Maggie's twice during the weekend. The place seems like it has changed since the last time I went about three years ago--seems much more like Wanchai in Hong Kong than the other venues in Beijing.
Question for the veterans: I was taught to handle Maggie's in one of two ways. Walk in, find a girl that interests you, and say, you wanna leave with me right now? Alternatively, go there really late, not long before closing, and see who you can get for a low price or even free. Would you guys agree with this assessment?
So, is the deal that the Mongolians with you, but the Chinese won't because they work there? Could potentially be up for some take-out there but would like to confirm the lay of the land first.
Intransit:
My experience at Maggies (and it is extensive and varied..) is that the best time is around 2-3:00 am, if you can stand waiting that long. This is when the majority of the girls show up. There are a few local girls that can be found earlier, but they are a bit more pricey. Not to say it is not worth it, but the Mongolian girls can be really great value for money. I have had some fantastic sex with them, and they are far less inhibited than the locals..BBBJTC, CIM, threesomes, anal (if that's your thing, etc,.
My personal approach is to just grab a drink and stand back and wait. I have never been disappointed at the results. Though, it does seem that the last two times I was there the quality had dimished a bit, but that may have been due to the sweep underway in BJ for the congress.
Happy Hunting!
PH,
Thank you kindly for the advice. What's the "TC" at the end of BBBJTC? I'm on intransit2003@yahoo.com if you need a hunting partner.
BTW, a word of thanks to the other members of this board. Although we did have a bit of a go-round about the subject of learning Chinese from one's temporary girlfriends, this board is exceptionally civilized, and that's a plus. Another board I post on is one huge flame war waiting to happen at every turn. I mentioned something about the quality of Chinese girls over those (based on pictures, not experience) in Cuba and had my mother, father, and the Chinese nation insulted as a result. If those guys wanna fuck dogs in Havana, that's great, that's their choice, but either way, we need not discuss it in such a ridiculous manner. Kudos, brothers (and sisters who read but do not post).
Intransit:
You are right about the lay of the land at maggies. Ph is correct, 2:00 or 3:00 is the best. These same girls can be found at hard rock or henry's or??? Before that time.
Keep in mind that many of them will be on their third guy of the night by that time.
Kodakjs
Happy Devil
12-16-02, 04:33
Hi guys - finally back in town for a few days again.
Kodakjs - yeah you right 2 or 3 guys at least if you pick the girl up at around 3 am. My suggestion is to get the girls phone number (the Mongolians all give it to you) and give them a call when you want to meet up with them.
this way you make sure your lady isn't too tiered when you find her and you don't even need to bother going to Maggies anymore.
Home delivery rules!!!
Devil,
You're absolutely right. And if you pick the right girls, they call you. The girl I call "The Domino's Girl" (just like the pizza, 30 minutes or less--fresh, hot, and delivered) just got back from Harbin and called me to let me know she was in town.
Brothers-
I am a big fan of the Mongolian girls, and I can't recall a single bad experience. You can truly find whatever your a looking for, from demur to kinky, and I have had some true girl-friend experences. Just like anywhere else, I believe the longer you have known a girl the better the experence will be. You know what to expect from her (for example, if her tits will disapear when she takes off her bra), and she knows you are not a creep and can let her guard down.
On the other hand, there are new girls showing up in Beijing all the time. I usually go to Maggie's a couple of nights when I first return to Beijing just to to check out the new girls. Even when you know you have a sure good-time's phone number it is still fun to try someone new.
Intransit: Just to clarify, most of the Chinese girls at Maggie's work for the bar, and they will not go home with you. They are all very straight forward about it, so just ask them. There are some freelance Chinese girls that hang out there, but generally speaking Chinese girls do not get along well with the Mongolian girls and avoid the place.
Frank Africa
12-17-02, 00:14
Dear intransit:
"BBBJTC" means "bare-backed blow job to completion" meaning the girl does not first put a condom on your dick before she sucks you off until you come. A wonderful experience that is becoming all too rare these days because of HIV and the other diseases that sex workers face.
Been in town for awhile now and have yet to visit this wonderful establishment called Maggies! Must check it out just to see what the fuss is all about!
From my experiences so far, my feeling is one of disappointment... maybe i have been unlucky... but, local girls really don't know how to ML!
Be interesting to see whether other readers feel the same way... this is not to say that they don't like to try new things or enjoy it... i'm not sure what it is.. can't quite pinpoint what's missing...
Fishmonger
12-18-02, 04:13
JoeyT - I think what's missing is called "AN ASS". I remember my first time doing it doggy style with a Japanese girl I was like "where's the meat?, what am I supposed to grab ahold of?". But I think the lack of ass and usually a lack of tits is made up for by the tight pussy, the delightful moaning, squealing sounds, and the lack of "dead fish" smell.
I like them small. I love it when they moan. I adore their small breasts because they are the right size for their small bodies. I live for their tight...AH Yes, I like asian women.
I find that the asian women do need a bit of training. But I even find that refreshing. They are very open minded and will try anything.
What's to miss???
My Ass is big enough for both of us... Tee hee
I think it's about time to change topic from the relationship between ear/hand sizes and the pussy, to how diff are girls from diff areas in China.
joeyt mentioned that Asian girls don't know how to ML, you might be right because, at the end of the day, they are more conservative in LMking. I mean, really doing it on the bed. I've done some research through local friends (they are the real experts!)
They said Sichuen girls are the best in bed. Open, playful, and naive (that related to Xichuenese who are generally more relax and enjoy life, merry go happy), I personally have that manifestation too but I don't like it because I enjoy the challenge of turning a deadfish to a lively one. DB girls are more incline to deadfish (might not be to that extreme though....). Anhui girls has some temperament, while Hunan girls are spicy. No info for the West. And GuangDong girls are simply not avail here.
Mogolia girls..... wel diff strokes for diff folks.... I probably would say thank you.
Lemme run 'em down as I've had them and remember them:
Was engaged to a Hunan girl: we never had sex, but she loved to suck cock, and was good at it. Did first and only threesome with two Hunan women, not bad, but bad attitude.
Am married to a woman from Henan: dead fish.
Had a Shanghainese girl in Macau: great. A fun, energetic fuck.
A Liaoning girl in Macau: beautiful, tight pussy, I came way too quickly.
Hubei girl I picked up outside the China World: so-so.
Had a couple of Sichuan girls (separately) at King's Sauna in Hong Kong. Pretty good, but short time, hard to judge.
Had a Hainan girl in Mongkok, Hong Kong--one of the worst sexual experiences of my life.
The Domino's Girl, Heilongjiang near Harbin: not so good-looking, but a nice bod, good puss, loves it when I cum on her, and has an endless supply of hilarious stories and jokes.
Nina: Beijinger from the service formerly known as ElleGuide/WildGeisha. Super bod, loved to fuck, and loved to watch herself in the mirror being fucked. I didn't know Chinese girls fucked like that until I met...
Kitty: Beijinger. The best of the best. If you think you can out-fuck Kitty, I say be my guest. That woman awakened things in me that I wish were still asleep.
And the list goes on...
Nice new thread..I agree, better than the ears and smell thing of weeks past.
I first have to say that intransit has hit the nail on the head with Ms. K..... I have never in my life found such a woman..she is unbelievably talented and has taken me places I never know. And guys, we are talking about comparing her to several hundred experiences in my life time.
That said, I find Chinese women to be extremely active and satisfying in bed....... willing, creative, sensitive, pleasing, kinky at times. I think the big difference is how well you get to know someone. I do agree A quick f..k from Maggies, HRC or HJBeans is definitely hit or miss and you can end up with a real wooden fish. But if you find a Chinese girl that is really good in bed, spend some time with her (and money of course), IMHO there is no better treat in the world.
And about the ass thing,..well, I still dream of that lovely Jiangsu ass that was jiggling in front of me as I was stroking away from behind some months back in Ningbo. It is there guys, just got to find it. Chinese women come in all shapes and sizes and are wonderful!
I like intransits ranking...maybe we should all contribute...I am thinking of mine now!
Happy hunting in the holiday season and stay safe!
Has anyone met with K**** lately? Is she good? I would like to know details about her attitute, skills and appearance. Usually how much does she charge for overnight? How many time can we play for one meeting? What is the process from the start till the end? Thanks !
intransit: you mentioned about the girls in Macau, mind you, Macau is a legal meat market, a very organized business. All the girls are trained to do the best to please clients. So those experience you had might not be the real originating cities flavor. Very likely a standard performance for every "show".
Papadum,
You're thinking of the saunas, that's not where I encountered those girls. I have done the Darling Sauna treatment, with Thai girls. I could talk about that too, but this is a China thread.
The Chinese girls I've had in Macau were almost all picked up on "The Walk," the stroll through the Hotel Lisboa's B1 level, which is like a catwalk fashion show from which you can select a temporary companion. Superb selection of northern girls (although that's where I found the Shanghainese girl, price is 600-800 HK$ for a one-off. I would recommend that if you plan to do this seriously, i.e. more than once in a night or weekend, get your own room at the Lisboa. The girls usually have at least one roommate, and the hygiene in those places can deteriorate as the night goes on.
Hangong--Is she good? Read my post, read PHunter's post, and read Paris's post from a few days ago. That should be all the proof you need.
Hey All -- Sorry to change the subject. Had a family member send me a very nice PERSONAL check for Christmas. Can I cash that at Bank of China or one of the five star hotels like the Prime Hotel or something?
Anyone have any knowledge of this? Thanks fo
Try the Bank of China, but don't get your hopes up. Best thing is to try to find someone else who has an account in your country, have them give you RMB cash or the foreign currency, and then endorse the check over to them.
kn
I'm pretty sure you can't cash it, you got deposit it
and wait for it to clear
kidnova: The best bet is to try Hong Kong Bank (HSBC), even if they can't cash it, you might be able to us the check to open an account there and wait for them to clear. And if that is still not possible, there staff could give you the most accurate answer.
HSBC is on the ground floor facing the main street at the building next to Henderson Center. I forgot the name of the building.
Thanks for the info, guys. I appreciate it.
By the way -- sex with chinese women still rules. Let's get back to the important info associated with this forum :-D
If anyone has anymore info on the whole check cashing issue, or how long they take to clear
Thanks for the info, guys. I appreciate it.
By the way -- sex with chinese women still rules. Let's get back to the important info associated with this forum :-D
If anyone has anymore info on the whole check cashing issue, or how long they take to clear, email me at camp7749@hotmail.com. Thanks, gracias and xie xie
kidnova, is there some reason why you keep posting the same post twice? If not, just go back and delete the duplicate posts, to save band width for Jackson. Thanks thor
Just back from Maggie's with one of this board's favorite ladies in tow. Interesting looking at the place from that perspective.
Overall, I have one observation--old. While the clientele isn't particularly geriatric, not compared to some other places, the girls that were there tonight were more, how shall we say, mature? I wasn't impressed overall by the quality of the girls overall. There were a couple of Mongolians that would have been easy pickings, but they were 7s, not 10s, and I would have taken two to make it worth my while.
Is this a holiday slowdown or what? Gentlemen?
chineselily
12-22-02, 11:53
http://www.sonicalbum.com/otherphotos/photolist.aspx?id=90752&folderpage=1&classid=-1
her name is Jojo, 19years old, majored in dancing.
pussy is extrmely small,very tight,
anyone want her infomation please contact to me.
no kiding!!
mike_chenus@yahoo.com
I just heard about a few good bars/clubs in Beijing. Comma Bar, VICs and Emergency Room. Any bros been there, are there any good pickup activities at these places.
Appreciate any feedback.
FYI, the chineselily post below is an ad, not a review. If you respond to the e-mail address, you receive a message with the promise, "Better than K****." I wonder how she knows?
Of course it's an ad.
But look at the pictures, man.
Gorgeous. Sheer beauty.
<drool>
Gorgeous? a dime a dozen at KTVs..... look at the eyes.....
Passion is where the gorgeous' are.....
In case anyone was wondering, the asking price for said JoJo is 3000 RMB. No thanks. I'll stick with Lady K for the high end stuff.
It’s been almost two months since I last contributed to this forum, and I’d like to post an update on some of the massage places that I’ve been to during this period.
One new place I’ve found is this Oriental Culture Hotel on Jiaodaokou in Dongcheng district. It’s a non-descript four-star hotel, only about two years old so the interior remains clean and nice despite being managed by a Chinese company. There is a sauna place at the basement. When I telephoned to find out about the place I was told that their masseuses could not provide in-room services, and the woman on the phone emphasised that they provide “Chinese medicinal health massage”, which suggested to me that perhaps I would not have fun in this hotel. Since the hotel directory suggested that there was a nightclub at the basement, I decided to do an investigation anyway. When I got to the basement I was disappointed to find that the nightclub had shut down. With nothing else to do, I decided to give the sauna place a try.
The sauna place has two VIP suites. They are huge, and are designed in such a way that there is absolutely no way people outside can see what’s going on inside the room. In most other places, the typical VIP suites consists of two sections, the front part being a sitting/massage area with massage bed and sofa, cupboard, TV or some other furniture, and the back part being the bathroom with shower, toilet, sauna and even Jacuzzi facilities. Typically the front door will have a glass windown to allow people outside to see what's going on inside the room. This VIP suite, however, comprises four sections. Right at the door is a short corridor where one takes off one’s shoes and hangs up one’s overcoat. Next one walks into a large sitting room with two reclining sofas and a TV set. Behind the TV is the bathroom. Next to the bathroom and right behind the corridor is the massage room with a standard double bed in the middle of the room. Unfortunately the bathroom does not have a Jacuzzi even though it is very big and certainly can accommodate one. Standing at the door one cannot even see what’s going on in the sitting room, let alone the bathroom and the massage room.
I took a quick shower, and told the manager to bring in the masseuse. I forget her name now. She’s about 22, medium height, and is well built with sizable tits. She’s not pretty at all, but has a sexy mouth. Not surprisingly, she came from northeast China where the economy sucks. She’s got a pleasant personality and we chatted quite happily. Initially she also told me that they could not provide any special service, but I managed to arouse her by feeling her up and with my sweet talk. Finally I succeeded in stripping her completely naked, after overcoming her half-hearted resistance. Since we didn’t have any condoms I had to settle for a hand job. And as she played with my dick while lying on her back next to me, I finger-fucked her. After awhile I climbed on top of her and tit-fucked her. Then I saw her mouth and knew what I wanted. After some gentle persuasion (including raising the tip to 500 yuan from 300) I stuck my tool into her mouth. She wasn’t an expert but she tried hard to please me, and I shot my load in her mouth, which came as a shock to her. Yet she was nice enough to wait until I emptied myself before she jumped off to the bathroom.
All in all, it was a satisfactory experience, and the clever design of the VIP suite makes one wonder whether it is true that they do not provide special service.
In the last few months I’ve stayed at the Tianlun Dynasty Hotel several times and had massage service at the health centre on the fifth floor, normally after I’ve gone for a swim. As I said in my July 20 posting, this place provides only regular massage but I managed to hold this girl’s hands, place them on my dick and fuck into them until I shot my load. I’ve not seen her again, but I’ve tried my luck with two other girls. One girl is Qiu Hui, a smallish girl just over 20 years old. I basically used the same strategy every time I was there. I complained that my skin was very dry and that the dry weather in Beijing was making me very uncomfortable (which was true). She had much sympathy for me and after some persuasion went out to get a bottle of baby oil to get me an oil rub. Apparently this was forbidden, but anyway she gave me a special treat. At the end she refused to give me a handjob, and I had to almost force her, by holding her hands and placing them on my dick. Anyway I gave her a 300 yuan tip as promised, and when I left she told me to come see her again.
The next time I went to the health centre I did ask for her, but she was off that day and a big woman in her mid-20s came instead. Her last name was Chen, and she was a local girl. She must stand about 5’7”, weighs about 120 pounds, and is not pretty at all. However, she’s very pleasant and easy going, and I took no time in convincing her that I needed an oil rub (she gave me the same line, that oil rub was forbidden). While giving me the oil rub she commented on my tan, and I told her that I was originally very fair skinned and that I got my tan in Thailand. Without hesitation she pulled my shorts down slightly to reveal a little bit of the unexposed skin, and I took the cue and said that my ass also needed an oil rub. She then pulled my shorts further down to reveal about half of my ass, and gave it a good rub. Then she worked on my legs, from the toes up to the thighs. Towards the end I told her to stick her hands under my shorts to rub all the way to the top of my thighs, and then towards the centre of my body. She asked how much I would tip her, and I said 300 yuan. She agreed, but reminded me that I must not tell anyone. She then pulled my shorts down a bit to give me a handjob. Although she wasn’t that attractive I decided to make the fun interactive, and so I sat up, pulled her over, pushed up her T-shirt and bra to play with and kiss her tits. Her tits were small for a person of her size. After we finished she cleaned me up, and told me to ask for her again when I next visit.
When I again wanted a massage after a swim, I asked for Qiu and I got her. At first she didn’t remember me, but after I gave her a number of hints she did remember. However, towards the end she still refused to give me a handjob, and I had to force it on her again, which I must confess wasn’t such a nice thing to do. I must say I don’t really understand this woman. If she didn’t like what I did to her the first time, why would she want me to come back? As far as I know, normally these girls don't get a tip for prividing regular massage, or at most they get 100 yuan. If she's willing to take 300 yuan, shouldn't she be willing to do a little bit more?
Dick Johnson
12-24-02, 11:23
hey woovictor, fine post. She was probably afraid you might have talked w/management or your a cop or you accidently revealed something to management etc:)
The Thai tan part is pretty funny.
I stayed at Jiang Guo next to Tian Lun, where you stayed at. There used to be a lot of freelancers right? They cleaned it up?? Are they all gone? Beijing is going through a 2 yr cleaning up. Damn, it's cheaper and more convenient even in Hong Kong!
I went to a massage place right behind "Banana Club?". It's mostly for Korean clients and the staff speaks Korean. The rooms don't have much privacy, perhaps a HJ is possible.
News Item
Reported that crime went down 7.9% in first 11 months and that 4289 prostitutes and pimps were arrested. 196 brothels were closed and 3292 pornographic institutions were also shutdown in Beijing.
That's Se Quan Jiu's (public security bureau's) story and their sticking to it. 3292 in Beijing seems quite high, who defines if it counts?
Happy Devil
12-24-02, 17:24
Hey Victor - already started to miss your posts. Again great job.
You did post a couple of month back about a place where they had jacuzzis, but can't find your post anymore.
Could you just post the address again or drop me a mail at beijing_duck@hotmail.com.
TangZhen - guess 3292 places is slightly on the high side, but I am not surprised. Government statistics are always a bit to much propoganda - not only in China!
SeattleGman
12-25-02, 11:17
Went to Maggies this weekend. Had a great time. The atmosphere is just like described in this forum. Thanks everyone for the previous posts. The mongolians were priced at 500RMB. Lots to choose from. They rated anywhere from a 3-8 in looks. Great service from the two that I picked up. One younger one, Noora was terrific. The second one stayed with me from 2AM to 7AM for 500RMB.
On Dec-23 the pickings were slim because many of them went home for the holidays. I saw another younger gal, looked Chinese but probably wasn't. I wanted to pick her up but someone else swooped in before I could talk to her. Damm...I'm still thinking about that one. The bar girls are nice to look at, but appeared not available for take out.
Also went to the Hard Rock cafe, but the pickings were even slimmer. More Chinese girl there however. Prices start at 1000RMB, but one girl agreed to 500RMB for 1 hour after arguing with her. By then I knew I would get crappy service so I passed.
seattlegman
just read your posts on the different boards
how much did you(or your host) pay for the ktv?
and how the heck did you get into maggie's?
I'm asian american too and I got stopped at the damn door
thanks
SeattleGman
12-26-02, 10:09
davidc
Sorry, I don't know how much they paid for the basic KTV services. I was in Macau in May 2002 and it costed around 1000 RMB or so for drinks and the fruit plate for two of us. The girl costed an extra 1000 RMB for a short time (high quality girl, rated a 9). I think I might have posted previously about that experience. I would tend to stay away from the KTV places unless you want to blow money on getting nothing...or spend more money than you need to get laid. That is of course if you enjoy the karaoke and all, there is nothing wrong with that. I didn't do any KTV in Beijing so prices might differ. I only did this in Shanghai and Shenzhen.
Regarding Maggies, I had no problem getting in..not even a second look. The girls told me they don't let the locals in unless they have a membership (whatever that means). Perhaps you look like like a local? I didn't see anyone except foreigners in there. As a matter of fact, I think I was the only Asian in there! I don't look like a local because I have a mustache, which helps make me look more like a foreigner.
Davidc: Re: Maggie's
Show your citizen card or diver's license, if you have one. If you don't then tough luck, locals are not welcome.
sorry....not diver's licence, I mean driver's licence......We are not in Saipan.....
My experience with KTW was the same in Beijing, Xian and Hong Kong (except everything was cheaper in Xian) - the room costs 1000 - 1200 RMB, girl's company is appporx. 300 RMB for 2.5 hours, beer and food is extra and then if you want to have sex, it's an additional 1500 RMB for one shot (it was 1000 in Xian). *Very* expensive and in my experiences, the girls are not particularly talented or interested in having sex. I've ended up spending a small fortune on it and gotten terrible service. The problem is that you get all liquored up during the KTV and I've always had fun with the girls even though there's a huge language barrier. At the end of the night, I let the alchohol persuade my dick to hire the girl and I've always regretted it.
lobo : there are some points in your post that might not be totally correct. $1500 for one shot is on the very high side. And at KTVs, the room charge is minimum charge, drinks are not extra unless your order exceeds the room charge. (Having said that, the food and drinks are realy expensive at first rate KTVs....a beer might cost you 50/60 bucks a can and a Black label $800....drink carefully!)
Re Barbershop
Lately I've discvered a place.... if you guys have a car, drive around the local roads at the airport, there are many barbershops and most of them got rooms for message upstairs.... she massaged for about 15 minutes and ask me i fI want "bao Jian" (health maintainence), I asked what was that and she's kind of shy and keep repeating"Bao Jian" (I think it's such a good way to put it though). I said ok, and she asked me how much would I pay her, it's my first time in a barbershop I said 500..... then she atarted to take off her colthes, and we did it on the massage bad and I paid her 500 and she's happy like a bird. The local guys might paid less I think....
Just got back to that states from Beijing. Stayed at the Taiwan Hotel near the Forbidden City and the Wangfujing shopping area. Paid $53 usd per night including all taxes. They have a Massage parlor on the second floor where they charge 160rmb for a 45 minute massage in their parlor or in your hotel room. They had a couple of cute girls there. Go down and pick the one you want and in 5 minutes she'll be knocking on your door. The cutie I had wasted little time in suggesting we do more than just a massage. She asked for $100 usd but settled for $75 for full service. Btw, they also have ktv on the second floor but I passed on that, but they had some great looking girls there.
You can also walk a block to the Wangfujing shopping area and find many girls who would love to come back to your hotel. These college age girls normal stop you by telling you they are art students and ask if you would like to view there work. Just be nice to them and after a few minutes of chit chat ask them if they would like a cup of coffee with you. Then its just a matter of telling them you are really looking for a girlfriend, don't worry, she knows what you want. Normal cost is between $50 and $75.
I just love China. I'll be back in Febuary. Can't wait.
Tom
Paoadum,
You are sabotageing the market, mate...
"Baojian anmo" means a normal non-sexual regular massage. At first, that is always what they offer. If you answered 500 Y, she obviously understood that you were not interested any more in a simple "baojian", but in "da pao" (=f...ing). That is why she took off her cloths. Still, that is very overpriced. Sex in a barbershop never exceeds 200 Y for the girl plus 50 Y for the owner.
Anyway that is good to know that some sex barbershops shops have reopen in the Peking area. Was that around Lido hotel ? This has been for years a rather sleazy area.
Erik: thanks for telling me that I paid too much for that. As I have mentioned that it's my first time visiting a barbershop..... What I can say is that when she said Pao jian she really meant it for FS, she was fresh from the farm, just arrived for a few days. "Da Pao" is a Taiwanese term imported to China, and these girls are direct from the farm, they don't even know the "term Da Pao"....anyway, thanks.
The area I am taking about is not Lido's proximity, When I said airport I really mean airport. drive down the ramp just exit the airport area, there is a hotel nearby but I forgot the name, Swiss Hotel? may be..... if you can see the hotel, you are there. But if you don't live in the area it might be too troublesome to explore (it's 10 minutes drive from where I live).
Guys,
Any good FS massage places in Beijing? I can't seem to find any. Hong Kong and Shenzhen are loaded with them. How come there aren't any in Beijing?
MM
muffinman,
I know this is this BJ thread but care to give info on massage places with FS in shenzhen?
LA
Muffinman:
Massage place: Wangfijing Grand Hotel (Wing Fu Jing Da Fan Dian), 57 Wangfujing.
Expect to pay RMB1,800 for FS.
I have friends frequent there but I've never tried. Not my type.
Recommendation od Suana in Chaoyang:
Inspite of all those expensive places, i have a sauana recommendation in Chaoyang.
It is not far away from Sanlitun. It is close to Chaoyang Stadium, not Worker Stadium. From Sanlitun, you can take a RMB10 taxi drive to arrive
Not a grand building, but an individual building in three storeys.
For an hour of massage with ML is only charging RMB550. It's hard to find one in this region. Most of them are quite expensive.
Esp, it is the regions so close to all thsoe 5stars hotels and embassies.
I have tried a petit pretty girl from Shangyang, still shy and tender.
The phone of sauna: 65950966.
Probably, it will take you some time before you can ask for the extra service,esp. if you are not chineses.
Originally posted by muffinman
Guys,
Any good FS massage places in Beijing? I can't seem to find any. Hong Kong and Shenzhen are loaded with them. How come there aren't any in Beijing?
MM Probably too close to Big Brother.
hi fellows, i always keep one eye on this useful forum even thu i have never posted anything here. i appreciated the info you guys producted here. the places and the lady (only one with detailed contact i guess) you recommended are very interesting and very friendly if you know what i mean! does there any guy know any website for good hunting besides thatsbeijing? it seemed stuck in last year. thanks for any thread.
happy hunting
lvk
bjmon,
What is the name of the sauna? What streets? Is it a hotel? I need help finding it.
Thanks,
MM
I was at San Li Tun Bar Street the last weekend. There was this really attractive girl that was pitching some KTV place. For some stupid reason, either curiosity or just thinking with the little head, I decided to check it out. BIG MISTAKE. The place was not very clean, but he girls were pretty nice so I decide just to hang there for about an hour.
Not much touching, and I was trying to arrange a later meeting at my hotel. I was staying at the Hilton. Anyhow, I ask for the bill and the manager brings in the bill and it was like RMB2000+. I freaked out. I calmed down real quick when I notice a couple of more guys by the door. I calmed down and decided to negotiate with him on the price. I got him down to RMB1000 and I got the hell out of there.
The moral of the story, don't go to any bars or KTV's that people push on the streets, unless you have a reliable local showing you around.
Be smart, play safe.
Originally posted by solbre
visiting Beijing every month for business
Used to have a local gf for the last 2 years
Any advise about the best way to find a new one?
thx for reply (solbre2002@yahoo.com)
Last year, I met his working girl at the Hard Rock. We hitted off and made an arrangement so that everytime I was in BJ, I would stay at her place and pay for the room and she provided the GFE. Great shorterm relationship.
Hope that helps.
Originally posted by solbre
visiting Beijing every month for business
Used to have a local gf for the last 2 years
Any advise about the best way to find a new one?
thx for reply (solbre2002@yahoo.com)
Try teaching English. You will have more girls hanging around you than you will know what to do with.
MM
Originally posted by solbre
looks like a good idea - thx
any idea where and how can I find these "willing to learn" girls?
maybe a add will help?
Yes -- an ad is a good place to start. Try "that's Beijing" or similar.
Here's a heartwarming story -- One day I was sitting eating some noodles in a typical Beijing resturant. A girl sits near me and starts scribbling in a notebook. She then smiles at me and asks me where I'm from. I tell her and then she asks me to help her pronounce some english words she had written in the notebook. Then she gives me her email address. I sent her and email and invited her to my house to help her with her english class. One of the words in her vocabulary book was "relationship". I was asked to explain the meanings of the word. Somehow I was looking up the Chinese word for sex and asked if she likes it. She said yes. I said, would you like it right now. She said yes. My point is that if you can't get any action in Beijing, then you aren't putting in any effort. Try eating in some local places and asking girls how to pronounce Chinese words. Be too nice and you will have bigger problems -- like how to get rid of them.
MM
muffinman
It works sometimes. I once showed a gal in Chengdu the translation for anal sex, well, and it did not work. Even vaginal sex was off the table after that and I had to go for masturbation.
Just read bjhunter's post. Fair enough, we all make mistakes, but please, for anyone reading this post now or in the future, IN CHINA, DO NOT GO WITH TOUTS. Streetwalkers are safer than touts.
Remember that in China, this and everything else is, you get what you pay for. If you want to bust a nut inside a girl, yes, you can do that for about 100-200 RMB if you look hard enough. If you want the most amazing, mind-blowing sex of your life, that's available, sometimes for a premium price, sometimes for "free," although that free will probably have severe limitations on you in terms of income and appearance, and will probably cost you for dinner and a mobile phone what you didn't spend directly on sex. My point is, streetwalkers are in the business to make money. They know what they're doing. They don't have a big complex about it. You pay money, you get sex. The tout/karaoke bar biz is not about sex, it's about theft. The whiff of sex is merely a diversion while they figuratively lift your wallet. Don't do it. Muffinman is right: if you're not getting laid in China, you are really not trying.
Bjhunter,
And also... read posts of pas t months. It has been told again and again never to follow touts in China and Vietnam. 90 % of the time, it is complete rip-off, or semi-rip-off (I mean you can get sex, but 10 times more expensive than formerly announced).
It is an old trick in Peking, for beautifull girls speaking not too bad english, to hang around high class hotels and tout for "cheap" bars or KaraOK.
Part 2 :
It is ALWAYSa ripp off. When I am approached by such girl, I tell her I would only agree to take her to my hotel for sex, no drink in bar, nothing else. Generally, that is where you see that she not prepared to have sex sex.
It only worked once for me. A very cute 19 y.o girl was touting for God knows which KaraOK, and she eventually agreed to come with me and I had a wonderfull ST for a few hundred yuan.
Hey Intransit and Erik, thanks for the tips. I have read that touts were rip offs, but still went along. Stupid me! I think curiosity just got the better of me.
I think I will also have to start teaching english classes on the side. ;-)
Dick Johnson
01-09-03, 10:12
Check out my Nov 11th post.
One other "ripoff" I ran into while in Bejing were the multiple girls who approached me about buying their artwork. They could tell I was a foreigner, and were able to speak decent English. Most of them were young and cute as well, and could easily pass as the "college Girls" that they claimed to be.
I went to one of their places some 4-5 blocks off the beaten track, as I was curious, and Mr Horndog was curious about the possibilities as well.
These people could easily find jobs selling time shares or used cars in the US! I was crowded into a corner by 4 or 5 people insisting I buy some of the art at ripoff prices, and felt hands trying to pick my pockets etc. Fortunately, I'm a decent sized guy, and was able to work my way out of the place, with the only loss being a pen that I had in a pocket.
Mr Horndog still wonders whether these girls could be had for some 1 eyed personal artwork in my room. Has anyone gotten lucky this way?
I will be in Beijing for the first time in February. I would greatly appreciate a hotel recommendation (with phone number or email address if possible. I am looking for a guest-friendly hotel (where my guest can stay all night) near the action. In return I will post a trip report.
I'll also be hitting up Shianghai and Guan Zhou, so any recommendations there would also be very helpful.
Dannymex:
In Shanghai the best bet is stay at service apartments, unlike in other cities, there are plenty of them in Shanghai, I can look up my stuff and give you a few numbers, and you don't need to scratch your plastic for security deposit when booking a room. They could be very low cost (but the place's not cheap, much better than local 4 star's) at around 300-400 RMB a large room, or around 500 for a suite (the place is called Le Residence, nice name though....), all with kitchenette. You walk into the building like your home, becuase there are real residence living in the same building/complex. The most luxury I've been to is the Hong Kong Center(Plaza?), next to Lippo Building. Used to charge around 500, but now they are expensive though, 800+.
I will be in Beijing for a few days, in transit. First time to this country and city. Wondering if there are contacts for Mistresses or Dommes for this submissive. The time may be too short for interviewing or finding a beatiful woman of power.
I have been reading the recent posts and archives about finding Ladies of the Evenings, but I desire abit more in my play sessions. Is sex toy shopping available, or is it banned? I am not able to travel with some of my favorite play toys. Any suggestions?
Papadum:
This looks like the way to go. Speaking no Chinese, do you think I can manage OK? Thanks for any phone numbers or other info you can provide.
I recommend language exchange as a way of meeting women. Put an ad in one of the foreigner magazines. If you hint at what you really want, you'll probably get it.
Don't go to places that people on the street are pushing you into ANYWHERE, not just China. This scam is older than my mother-in-law.
If a place is any good (especially a KTV), then it probably stays a little more low key to stay out of trouble. Make friends with some of your Chinese business partners, and try to get out to dinner. They will know where to take you afterwards.
Excerpt from elsewhere
Here are some opnions I have heard or experienced:
How about you? Any Opinions?
Beijing:
usually the real the local Beijing are not so beautiful indeed but they are somehow more cultural and you can have a nice talk with them.
Of course, as the city of universities, you can find beauties from all other provinces flooding into the academics.
I have heard of the rumour that usually the real beauties are ready for hire as the mistresses for rich guys in Beijing.
Shanghai:
Girls in Shanghai are always both the nightmares and sweet dreams for both Chineses and non-chineses.
Canadian from Shanghai told me about this: Shanghai girls or beauties usually have 3 boyfriends.
One is their first love or the local guys they are ready to marry with.
Two is the rich guys giving them money and Gucci handbags.
Three is their sex partners.
Anyway, i found them too tactful and beautiful at the same time.
Nanjing:
they are beautiful girls like the ones in Shanghai but they are not so tactful anway, they are still getting used to spend bf money
NorthWest Provinces:
The breeding land of beauties: tall, good figure, white and silky skin but if they are your real girlfriends, they could be very loyal and can do anything for you.
Of course, they are usually not so tender like the girls in Shanghai
Sichuan:
wow, my cup of tea not very tall, sparkling eyes, good figures
but not always in good temper
so we have got a kind of saying in china: " Chilly girls"
some air companies just come here to hire air-hostesses
so you can imagine
Hunan:
comeon, give me a chance
like girls from Sichuan, could be an angel and devil at the very same night
TeleWhip,
Not aware of anyone providing the services you require. You can try Adult Friend Finder and do a search, but in terms of regulars, sorry, not aware of any.
Alroy,
I quite agree with your classification. For me also, n°1 are Sichuan/Chongqing girls. I would say Hunan girls are sub-Sichuanese (genarally not so keen on BJ that Sichuan/Chongqing ones). N°2 are North-eastern girls with big boobs. I have very good souvenirs of Pekingese. Finally, I am not to much into the sofisticated luxury Shanghai bitches, (including Najning, Zhejiang, Hubei and alike) but I don't have really experienced them so far.
best_of_british
01-13-03, 08:56
Hi, this is my first ever post, but I have been reading for some time and I appreciate the effort some of you guys put into producing quality posts. Anyways wondered if anyone could point me in the direction of one of the hairdressers/massage places where cheap handjobs are offered. Can't find one at all, rather stupid given that they are supposed to to be everywhere (or so ealier posts have suggested). Also, though it's a bit off topic, is there anywhere in China where Viagra can be purchased?
Cheers.
I'm reposting this from the Qingdao section because this is where it belongs. Original post was by Worm, a regular member.
Most incredible experience.
I was staying in Kerry Centre Hotel. The street between Kerry and Traders Hotel has a lot of shops, including a blind man massage that gives incredible non sexual massages. Highly recommended.
But, on my way there, I passed by a barber shop with a really cute girl at the door. Interesting face, very sexy, but her body was covered by the heavy sweaters common in Beijing this time of year.
I fell for it, and she took me to the back of the parlor. Not too private, but ok. She began a basic massage, and I indicated that was not what I wanted. Then the most incredible experience I have ever had in China began.
She took off that heavy sweater, and then the shirt, and then the bra to show me the most incredibe tits I have ever seen anywhere, Chinese or western. Probably 36 D I am a tit man, and I am in heaven.
She lets me have my fun with her tits, but the best is yet to come.
You can figure that out. Cost me 1000 rmb, worth every penny.
These buildings will be demolished next month to make way for the largest building in Beijing, twice the size of China world 2. Get it while it lasts.
I will be staying at the Beijing Hotel. Suggestions about the hotel and its services? Are ladies easily allowed up to the rooms? Ladies and massages available in the hotel or room? Nearby local businesses that offer good services? Places to definitely not to visit?
Thanks for the assistance and advice!
Anyone with experience with hiring an assistant, guide and evening escort for the few days I will be in Beijing? Looking for abit more than a quickie but not a wife. Agency or find a young college student? Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Can anyone help me out please? I will be in Beijing at the end of March and I am looking for the Barbershops that everyone keeps talking about. Can anyone post the locations of these? I am a veteran of the SE Asia scene (prefer freelancers), but this will be my first trip to China. Any info would be appreciated, especially as to normal prices and a good location of the City to stay in so I am close to the girls. Thanks.
Telewhip,
Why are you staying at the Beijing Hotel? It's best known for probably being the capital's most bugged temporary residences. Be sure to enunciate into the lamp.
As for an assistant, et al, you really need to talk to K****. Send me your e-mail address at intransit2003@yahoo.com and I'll forward it on to her. If she can help you, she will.
Beijing Lover
01-15-03, 12:14
Telewhip,
In Beijing Hotel is absolutly impossible to get ladies in the room.
It's probably the most watched hotel in Beijing.
Don't be fooled by the modern look, the stooges are very active.
Try to book in some other place.
good luck.
beijinglover
Kingdavide
01-15-03, 12:39
I'm a local Beijinger of 30s with decent job, and, male of course. If anyone of you want a kind of escort trip here, maybe i can help you. So if anyone interested in the suggestion, you may contact me at gunsmokekimo@hotmail.com. I speak fluent English and some French.
intransit and beijinglover -
Thanks for the info. You have been very helpful. I am going to extend my stay in Beijing after my work associates head home. Suggestions on places to stay, good price, location and close to the activities of the ladies? Looking forward to my trip!
TeleWhip,
For your and future reference, there is no hotel that's "near the action." That implies that in Beijing there is one central district where all action takes place. In fact, although there are certainly are mainstays such as Maggie's, the scene is entirely freelance and therefore mobile. There are no hotels that are closer than any others, although any hotel in the Jianguomenwai area is preferably to, say, the Shangri-La, which is out on the ass end of town.
Unlike major mongering cities, such as Bangkok or Angeles City, prostitution is illegal in China and therefore not allowed to set up shop in one particular place where it would be tolerated, i.e. Patpong or Nana Plaza, or even Wanchai as in Hong Kong.
The most important part is finding a hotel that is girl/guest-friendly. That information is basically available via this and other boards. My one recommendation is the Swissotel, which had no problem with me and K**** fucking each other senseless. I'm not sure at what point the line crosses between expense and permissibility.
Basically, the girls are migratory. They start off their evening at Henry J. Bean's or the Hard Rock. If no luck there early (the 11 pm hotel room deadline still a basic rule of thumb), they'll move on to Chaoyang Park, such as Suzie Wong's [anybody picked up there? Saw some really good looking women there a few nights ago who were obviously on the job]. Maggie's is the last stop if they are unsuccessful, or a later stop if they score early for short-time.
Use this board to get contact information and phone numbers. Unless you love the hunt, there's actually no need to leave your room, and with those sons-of-bitches Beijing taxi drivers as your only link between hotel and bar, staying in your room is a pretty good option.
Intransit
For your info, prostitution is also illegal in Thailand. Not a joke.
I don't know about Philippines.
my experience tells me that tourist hotels are normally more girls friendly than some of the business hotels. two examples are Holiday Inn and New Otani. The latter one is full of japanese tourists, even the first 10 tv channels are all japanese. but if you pursue your hobby there, you won't need the tv anyway. Holiday Inn offers reasonable rates (i know the one at Wang Fu Jin), the rooms are not spectacularly nice, but definitely acceptable. i saw girls roaming the floors there, offering "massage" services.
another good option are serviced apartments.
Erik,
You are absolutely correct.
Happy Devil
01-16-03, 14:26
I can highly recomend the Hilton being girl-friendly in Beijing.
Actually I have been over 3 years in China and never ever had any problems at any hotel.
Would like to hear from someone who had problems and naming the hotel.
Happy Devil
I am glad you "seasoned verterns" of China know the ropes. It helps us first time visitors. The advice is greatly appreciated. Does the USD go further than RMB in dealing with the ladies in Beijing? Controlled currency issuses?
So to all the regulars in Beijing...what is considered the going rate for the girls, either short time or long time?
I have a story to share with all hobbysts out there. Even though it may come across to you as fiction but it is what has happened to me. In anticipation of being part of a business team to open a branch operation in China, I thought it would be neat to secure a local girl friend in advance.
I found a few cuties in dragonsurf.com and hooked up with them over email. Most of them fell off sideway as soon as they realized they had no short-term opportunity to cash me out. One was very much different right off the gate from others. She disclosed everything as email communications flowed – contact information (home number, mobile number, office number, parents’ number, and number for her best friend along with addresses of home and office), complete personal and professional background, various pictures of hers, hobbies and the others. She is co-owner of a franchise business for learning and tutoring for foreign languages.
This has been going on since April 2002. Email exchange was replaced with phone conversations. Now, we talked about twice a week. How she looks? Cute and intelligent face with light skin and 5’4” tall and 120 Lb. What I see her on various pictures suits me.
I did perform a couple of smell tests on her birthday, Christmas and New Year’s day to ensure the material is genuine to be my girl friend. She expressed that no gift would be better than my phone calls to her the night before her birthday and on Christmas eve. I offered her to send a gift for her birthday or a present for Christmas but she declined both cases. Real wish for her is to meet with me face to face so we can get to know each other in depth.
So I’m going to Beijing in a couple of weeks as part of my business trip to various southeastern Asian countries. This would be my first trip to this region since early 2000. This is the first time we are meeting face to face. She has been exciting and counting a day by a day for the first meeting.
I guess my story is based on half pure luck and half persistence. Do you think this girl is sound too good to be the real one? Your cool head may see something that I could not. Your comment would be appreciated.
O2G,
It's too hard to say what she'll be like. I must ask: why was it so critical to secure a Chinese girlfriend in advance of your arrival, especially months in advance? Do you have sexual and social needs that will require fulfillment from the moment you hit the ground?
My experience in China is that although some things require advance planning, such as supply lines for reading material and edible treats from home, most things are better done on the ground. I tried to find work from the US before I moved to Beijing in 1996, and was largely unsuccessful. After I arrived here, I was turning down work within two months because I was too busy. Girlfriends are the same way here.
By seeking out a girlfriend "in advance," as you call it, you've basically limited yourself to one type of woman, one that is looking outward. That's fine, those girls are alright, but bear in mind that they have something specific in mind. They may think the same of someone seeking them: that this person just wants to bang Chinese girls. Of course this is not always true, but all involved are rightly wary.
I wouldn't waste the foundation you've laid (no pun intended) to this point, but realize that if you meet her and decide she isn't what you were looking for, that the extraction process will be messy. China is not a no-strings society; when someone like her has invested this much time in developing a relationship of sorts, she'll be at least shocked and at worst hurt if you change your mind.
Also, I must ask another question: why are you asking on this board? If you're really looking for a steady girlfriend, then why ask a bunch of guys whose primary interest is sex? I suggest you evaluate your motives before going any further. If you're looking for true companionship and love, that's fine, but if you're only searching for steady sex, then there's a good chance you're going to hurt this girl's feelings.
I'm heading to Beijing for the first time and staying at the
Wangfujing. Can anyone recommend any good spots in that
area or at the hotel? Is Hard Rock or Maggies anywhere
nearby?
Thanks
O2G,
I like intransit's answer. You are definately working too hard just to get laid in China. And intransit is right about the messy situation you might be creating for yourself. She probably thinks she's hooked a husband.
I've banged a couple girls from dragonsurf myself -- and I can tell you that not all their pictures are accurate. One exception -- I was banging this one girl regularly -- she was about 30 and had had multiple abortions -- but she looked great in person and in her posting. She was a fun lay... she'd come over to my house, take off her clothes, take a shower, and lay in my bed until I finished my shower. Then she'd say hi and and suck my dick. Afterward we would go out to eat -- even though she wasn't really hungry (hahaha). Not a bad deal really. You really should consider an arrangement like that. Almost all of the dragonsurf girls I've meet are into this kind of thing. Have to tell you this though -- after awhile, a relationship based purely on sex and dinner can get a little old. I know for you sex-starved guys still living in the US, this is hard to believe.
Originally posted by Erik
Intransit
For your info, prostitution is also illegal in Thailand. Not a joke.
I don't know about Philippines.
Illegal in both -- but come on.... It's not that illegal. Bangkok and Manila are serious *****-mongering-in-the-street-cities.
Intransit and Muffinman,
I knew I would get insightful and local sensitive information and worthwhile perspectives and I appreciate it. I’ll keep these good points in my sleeve as I will orient and adapt myself in Beijing scene and Chinese culture.
I have been traveling to Latin America last few years. I posted a few on the board for Sao Paulo, Brazil. My trip to Latin American is short (max is one week) and I have been enjoying the night scenes and great sex with local beauties like you would do.
I originally planned to be stationed in China for several months as part of business startup team and thought would try to secure one. Not much other thoughts.
If supplies are plentiful, I’m happy and good to go. Again, thank you for advices from colleague hobbyists. If you guys are local or long-term expat, I would like to have an opportunity to hook up with you in future so I can buy you a drink or so.
Gringo’s in Latin America often hook up each other through the WSG board and are having great time together for eating, drinking and hunting. And then go back to work next day with a big grin on face.
Det51,
Read my post on the lower part of this page. It talks about location and your other questions.
My fellow Beijingers,
We should consider ourselves lucky. Our fair city not only has the best of the best, someone like K****, but a central location for puss, i.e. Maggie's It's Saturday night in Shanghai and I'm in my hotel room, watching HBO. The Hard Rock is dead, there are two not so good looking peasants lurking outside the hotel offering massage. What the fuck do people do to entertain themselves here? Shanghai may be a great place to make $ but it's so exceptionally boring I always want to leave early.
Hello All...
I just wanted to underscore how much of a pleasure it is to have meet K**** A very special thanks to all the guys that have posted about her. Any new guy reading this should search for her name on this post and read about all the other great experiences she has given. She not only is intelligent, but EXTREMELY sexual. I have never been with a women that is as much sexually fun as her. I am not bragging and I am in no way saying that I have been with a lot of women, but my job has taken me to the far corners of this world. I have all the confidence in the world when I say that K**** is the most fun I have ever had. In any country she would be worth a million bucks. Any of you guys that are in Beijing or plan to visit Beijing, should treat yourself and contact her. ireallydigyou@hotmail.com
She had many resources in this city. If you need help with anything in this city, just ask her. She even book my hotel for me!
Good Luck to all the guys out there...........
PS...Did I mention that she can give an AWESOME massage?
Dear all - for those visiting Beijing in the next few weeks:
Trader is RMB398 (not even US$50) plus tax. from Jan 30 to Feb 8.
Sheration Great Wall is US$80 inclusive, from now to Feb 28. Good deals!
I am not sure about the flexibilities of 11pm curfew in these hotels though....
I've visited an apartment yesterday near Hilton Hotel and had quite a good time. There were two girls and an older lady, maybe a coordinator. I choose for a Mongolian about 1.65 tall may be 55kg, a little chubby but not too much, pretty face with lively eyes. Enhanced breasts, nicely shaped but that is is giving her some pain. She was very sweet and accomodating, we spoke little talk did a little bit of everything but all covered. As always I liked light kissing and pussy eating, and 69. She enjoyed being on the top and I suspect she snatched a one or two of these quick and quiet femal orgasms, if you know what I mean. I had her on the side for the final anal sample, I think I has semi-cummed already but she made no bid deal and just changed condom. Price paid RMB1200, they recite you the menu in advance that starts at RMB500, you can also party with both girls if you like.
Yeah, so? Where is this apartment, how do we find it? This isn't Penthouse Forum, we want to know where we can partake, not just where someone else got off.
Yah! Some people just don't seem to get that the main purpose of this forum is to share actionable information. We don't just want to hear about the great time you had. We need specifics people! Place names, addresses, times, prices, names, etc...
Fellow Beijing hunters,
Sorry to be off-topic, but I think our audience would appreciate this. Do not despair if you are sent on a business trip to Shanghai. It's a different scene altogether, and while I'm no expert (I only get there every 2 months) there are some opportunities:
1. Julu Lu.
a bar street with lots of... businesswomen
2. hair salons in northern part of town, Hongqiao area and Pudong.
It's best to wait until after Chinese New Year as police are crack down before the holiday... not that they would care. Look for smoked glass on the windows and neon light.
3. cab drivers.
Most cab drivers know some good places, and are willing to help even foreigners. Of course they do not speak English, so it is good to know some words like "anmo"-masage or "sangna" sauna (they probably konw you want the good kind), and make some hand gestures to get your point accross. Mandarin classes are good for your sex life.
Hope you do not mind my posting in Beijing, after all it is to help my fellow Beijing people.
It was really busy at the old JiangSu FanDian Monday night. The first time I've seen that place so packed. The girls were complaining of sore wrists.
BTW -- I've been having some luck lately just sitting in Starbucks reading or working on my laptop. Sooner or later some girl will come over and start talking about something... usually within an hour or so. Try the Starbucks near the Friendship Store or in ZhongLian. These aren't pros, just available girls looking for something fun to break up their day. After 30 minutes of chat, I've found they are open to going to eat. With a little time invested, you be mounting some fresh pie within two days. Cost: a cup of coffee and 2 meals. Just a suggestion...
Pekingdog,
Would you mind sharing what Julu Lu stands for ?
Thanks a lot
Wolf
Wolf,
Julu is the name (name of the street)
Lu is Road or street in Mandarin(Chinese).
Happy Devil
01-22-03, 15:29
Vinfalco
Dude you bonked Zula for RMB 1200??? You should have gone to Maggies, picked her up there, fucked her brains out the whole night and given her RMB 500!!!
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but you got ripped off! She has a nice ass though!
Going to Beijing and Jinan over the next few weeks. Does anyone know of any action in Jinan.
In addition any numbers for ladies for a date lke evening, dinner and all nite.. Maggies does not quite hit that mark.
Any suggestions or leads helpful.
Mega, Pekingdog,
Thanks for the info.
What can I expect in Julu street ?
What would you recommend ?
And where is it by the way ? in the center ? close to a know hotel ?
Thank you for your help.
At your service for Seoul, Tokyo, Singapore whenever you need.
Wolf
Guys, guys, take it to the Shanghai thread. Just be aware that they're in the middle of a flame war over there.
Wolf, I've tried to start up a discussion on Julu Lu on the Shanghai board. Let's try to keep our Shanghai info there. (Yeah, yeah I know, look in the mirror pekingdog)
intransit, sorry for starting a little chaos on our Beijing board! I'll try to respect the rules of the 'neighbourhood' in the future.
I visited Beijing a couple of weeks ago and stayed at the Marriott Courtyard in Chongwenmen. It’s a decent four-star hotel in a residential district without many attractions. It doesn’t seem there’s any action in the hotel, as the health club closes early at 10pm and offers (presumably same sex) massage in the locker room only. It hasn’t got a nightclub or KTV or anything like that.
Naturally I had to go out for action. One night I had dinner at the Guangzhou Hotel on Xidan North Street and noticed that it’s got a sauna place at the basement, its entrance just right next to the main entrance of the hotel. I went down and found a luxuriously decorated place with about 20 massage rooms each with two or three massage beds. There are also three VIP rooms each accommodating four to five people with karaoke machines and even majoh table. Only one of them has en-suite shower, sauna and Jacuzzi facilities. It costs 200 yuan an hour with a maximum charge of 1,000 yuan (i.e. you can stay for more than five hours but less than 24 hours). The other two are 100 yuan an hour.
I was on my own so didn’t go for such a huge room. After going through the routine of shower and steam room I went out to relax a little bit in the big whirlpool. Next to the pool is a tall and wide fish tank (probably 15feet wide and 10ft tall, goes all the way up to the ceiling). About six or seven sharks (yes sharks) are kept there. They are about 2ft long. Quite cool.
Then I went into one of the massage rooms and soon a girl came in. I forgot her name but her number is 82. She’s about 22, comes from Chongqing, and is new in this business, having done it for about two months. I asked her to do a thorough oil rub on me, as my skin was really dry because of the cold weather. She skills are quite good. We started off with me lying on my back, and after she had done with oiling my tummy I asked her to go down further. Initially she refused, but after some persuasion and promises of tipping her with two sessions of massage (i.e. she wouldn't need to massage me for those two sessions) she removed my shorts and started to rub oil on my private part. As we chatted it turned out that for every session of massage (including the two sessions that I was to tip her) she would only get 40% and the establishment would take the remaining 60%. So I propose to give her cash, which made her really happy. The only inconvenience is that I then had to go to the locker room to get the money from my wallet in a stealthy way, and I’m sure the waiters in the locker room were suspicious. Then I went back to continue with the thoroughly enjoyable three sessions of massage and oil rub, and she was willing to let me fondle and suck her tits as she worked on my cock.
By the way this place opens around lunchtime and closes at five in the morning. The girls can also go upstairs to guestrooms. My girl said she had never been in the guestrooms, but she agreed to have sex with me next time I called her up to my room, as full service was not allowed at the sauna. All in all a very nice place, clean and beautifully decorated. Prices are reasonable for a high-end place. I stayed for three sessions and it cost me about 900 yuan.
AsiaTraveler2
01-25-03, 10:54
Originally posted by Papadum
Dear all - for those visiting Beijing in the next few weeks:
Trader is RMB398 (not even US$50) plus tax. from Jan 30 to Feb 8. Sheration Great Wall is US$80 inclusive, from now to Feb 28. Good deals! I am not sure about the flexibilities of 11pm curfew in these hotels though....
Papadum;
Thanks for the info. How common are the curfews in hotels? Could be a drag.
Victor,
Your reports are always highly informative, and we thank you for that. But I gotta ask you, why do you spend so much time, and money, in these jerk-off joints? You spent 900 RMB. My information indicates that 100 RMB short of having two enthusiastic Mongolians (all night), or the better part of what you'd spend to have the sex of your life with K****.
I mean, if that's your thing, rock on. I'm a big sauna guy when I got to Macau, but otherwise, I'd rather spend my money actually fucking instead of fucking around.
Quick question = has anyone had any experiences picking up girls at an English corner? I'll be in BJ in a few weeks and was thinking of checking one out...
Lobo
lobo,
No, and my guess would be you won't get much quality there. English Corner--yikes. Last time I went to one of those I had to get loaded before I could even show up.
Hey Intransit,
you seem to know your way around the best here. If I am in Beijing for only 3 days, I take it maggies or the hardrock is the best place to go? I have heard that everyone's favorite girl K**** charges more than high priced girls in the states, so I am trying to find something more reasonable. Thanks.
Boom,
I think you overestimate my expertise but I will assist you as best I can.
What's your budget and what's your preference? E-mail me directly at intransit2003@yahoo.com.
To Asiatraveler2:
All hotels in China have an 11pm deadline for non-registered guests (i.e., anything you picked up off the street) to leave.
The Trader's is a good 4-star hotel, and will of course let you stay out to have fun as late as you wish. The trouble is bringing back anyone late in the evening. It is difficult to predict which hotels might give you trouble. Generally, women wearing unsexy (bluejeans and jumper) clothing and not much makeup probably won't have trouble getting upstairs. Still, when was the last time you saw a bar girl dressed like that?
The reason why guys like these Mongolians (some are cute, but others border on ghastly) is that you can register them at the hotel front desk if they have their passport with them.
To woovictor: bravo for providing info about a sauna that will provide full service! Even if FS is only allowed in the hotel rooms, I suspect the occupancy rate of that hotel will surge fairly soon.
I can understand why people like saunas. Sometimes it's just not convenient or comfortable bringing back Ms Ulaanbataar to your cosy home.
AsiaTraveler2
01-27-03, 09:22
Originally posted by pekingdog
To Asiatraveler2:
All hotels in China have an 11pm deadline for non-registered guests (i.e., anything you picked up off the street) to leave.
The Trader's is a good 4-star hotel, and will of course let you stay out to have fun as late as you wish. The trouble is bringing back anyone late in the evening. It is difficult to predict which hotels might give you trouble.
pekingdog;
Thanks for the info. I am planning on a stop over in the next month or so, on my way to Bangkok. I would like to try Beijing out for 2 days, to see how I like it. I'm working on meeting with K****, the highly talked about wonder woman. I hope I don't set my expectations too high! e-mailed her a few times, and she's already got me hooked! Can anyone rate her looks? Will I have trouble with an overnighter with her .. given the 11pm deadlines? I'm surfing the net right now, to find some good websites to assist me, as I'm gathering that Beijing is much more complicated than say Thailand, Korea, or the Phillipines. I enjoy challenges though, and want to make the most of the 2 days that I have in Beijing. Look forward to any suggestions or info, any of you seasoned veterans have! Thanks!
Kitty's cute. She dresses well, not particularly tall. I like her because she's solidly built (that is not a euphemism for fat or anything like that). Doesn't matter--15 minutes into it it won't make any fucking difference. Overnighter no problem--she'll tell you if she has any concerns.
Originally posted by intransit
Kitty's cute. She dresses well, not particularly tall. I like her because she's solidly built (that is not a euphemism for fat or anything like that). Doesn't matter--15 minutes into it it won't make any fucking difference. Overnighter no problem--she'll tell you if she has any concerns.
Does Kitty has a picture posted anywhere on the NET?? TIA
No, no pictures. Being a working girl in China is a great way to get a 20-year prison sentence, so if that's the case, I wouldn't put my picture up anywhere either.
BTW, there have been claims that Kitty has a picture in the photo section of WSG. I have viewed all the China photos there and I can vouch that none of them is of Kitty.
Originally posted by intransit
No, no pictures. Being a working girl in China is a great way to get a 20-year prison sentence, so if that's the case, I wouldn't put my picture up anywhere either.
BTW, there have been claims that Kitty has a picture in the photo section of WSG. I have viewed all the China photos there and I can vouch that none of them is of Kitty.
Those pictures of that girl from QingDao is hot..my kind of hoe.
Guys,
How to contact this Miss Kitty ?
I shall be soon in Shanghai and would love to experiment.
Thanks
went to Maggies after being out of BJ since September....these girls were looking for 800-1000RMB.....in SZ can have 4 young hotties with a tip for 1000 RMB.
Left there and headed to Den...very late...not a warm body in the place....damn my bed was cold last night. :)
AsiaTraveler2
01-28-03, 13:38
Guy's;
Planning on a stop over in Beijing in a few months (March or April). Only 2 days, and I want to make the most of it. I've been to Macau, and there are tour guides as soon as you get off the ferry that speak english. I know they are overpriced in general, but it is relative. Spent $40 US for a 6-7 hour tour of the place, including his identifying where all of the action was and hitting the main tourist stops. Invaluable info, for short stays, since it gives you a quick look at the city. Paid more for a rent a car in the states. Anything similar in Beijing? Could be valuable for me, since time is more scarce than money. I hope someone has some info. I've already made some contacts, but have not committed. Look forward to your expertise! Thanks!
Paris_20001
01-28-03, 13:39
To Wolf :
ireallydigyou@hotmail.com
LoveAsia,
This ain't SZ. If you want to go to a barbershop you might get that rate, but not at Maggie's. 800-1000? That sounds about right for asking price.
Intransit,
The places I am referring are not barbershops...my friends and I call it jackie chans...If 800-1000 is the price now, I will wait till next month when I am back south. Thanks for your input.
LoveAsia,
Did not imply you were referring to barbershops, was just saying that you'd only find that place in a very local establishment such as a barbershop here in Beijing. South much more liberal and greater supply there.
Hello.
Could someone please let me have some info regarding bringing girls to the room for
Peace Hotel and Capital Hotel
Any info for these hotels is more than welcome or maybe you can suggest another hotel. I'll be in Beijing in march.
Cheers
To intransit,
To answer your question, I am a big sauna thing, for one thing. The other thing is that I do have a couple girlfriends that I see in BJ from time to time. One of them used to work at the Capital nightclub on the third floor of the Tianlun Dynasty Hotel (I suspect she's someone's mistress now, but she still sees me), and the other used to work at the teahouse at the Bamboo Garden Hotel (and seems to be doing nothing now other than taking some business classes, at least that's what she claims). There is of course no need to talk about my girlfriends here.
The reason I don't frequent nightclubs so often now is that I want to find a girlfriend who can do good massage, and so saunas are the place to find. For a short time I had a girl who used to work at the sauna place at the basement of Wangfujin Grand Hotel, but then she switched to the Passion at the Sheraton and her attitude changed.
So far I haven't found the right masseuse to be my girlfriend, and I need to hurry because I think I have to drop my two existing girls soon. There's nothing wrong with them, but I don't want to make it too long term.
Hope that solves your puzzle.
WooVictor,
Ahh..a man with a mission..now we know.
I have a question for you. I've stayed at Tianlun Dynasty Hotel, and saw many girls going in to work at Capital Night Club. I also saw many girls lined up at the entry way to welcome guest. Is this a good place to pick up girls. Will they go with you up to the rooms at the hotel.
Any idea about rates for short time and overnight stay?
TIA
to mpfslove,
RMB1500~2000 for one shot, 2000~2500 for over night but they dont like to be fucked for whole night even though they charge you that much. the gal wanted to go home after i did her twice she said she was afraid the police would check the hotel (how come? i didnt know then) but i still let her go with 2500 i paid her beforehand. unpleasant experience there.
why dont you ask for Miss K****? she was always friendly and tender. i enjoyed her tour guiding before i brought her to my hotel (she also sent me the hotels info before my arrival ). she was so brilliant especially in the bed!
thanks to those who recommended her!!
safe hunting (yes, she knows how to keep you guys safe)
Kingdavide
01-30-03, 13:44
to:Asiatraveler2
I am in Beijing and could took u a kind of shorttime tourguide +escort service. You could write email to me at gunsmokekimo@hotmail.com
mpfslover,
If the Capital Night Club is the one on the second floor of Tianlun Dynasty, it's a karaoke bar. The girls are certainly available, but not cheap! I was there a few months ago and while my hosts paid for the private room, I think the girls time was something like 200rmb. To take the girl back to my room was 1500rmb for one shot - way too pricy in my opinion. The problem is that I have so much fun in karaoke and drink too much so that I get really horny and want the girl. I'll be back in Beijing soon and I've promised myself to stay away from that place so I have a little money left when I return home.
Lobo
lvk & lobo,
Thanks for your advice, sounds like I need to stay away from there and do my hunting elsewhere. I guess Beijing being the capitol, is more restricted in the type of entertainment and hobbies we are seeking. More fun can be found in southern China and further away from the Central Govt.
I did find several cuties hustling tourist near the Wangfujian area to take people to " special " clubs, which i was aware as total ripoffs. However, I made friend with one of the cuties, and later she became my personal tour guide and girlfriend for the few days there in Beijing. Nice girl from Hebei. When I left BJ, she gave me her mobile number and I gave her a 500RMB tip for spending three evenings with me taking me to various dance clubs and bars. We had dinner dates and walk the mall also, total GFE.
cheers,
The really fun places in Beijing are away from the tourist sites. This is so the government can promote the 'clean' image of the capital. The south part of town - 'Chongwen District' going towards the South Third Ring Road has some interesting places. Sorry that i can't help too much on specifics.
Maggie's charges are so high because it is well known, and set up for English-speaking clientele. Places that are not so oriented towards foreigners will charge less for higher quality, but they might not be so easy to use for a roundeye just off the plane. I don't mean to knock Maggie's, but pays to get around and explore alternatives.
Yesterday I wen to "The Den", I found a young girl about 18-19yr quite pretty, her Name is Ali.
I took her to my room.
I can't say that her service is great or that she is very enthusiastic at her work BUT her body isn’t bad (still very child like for those who like that) She has a very small tight pussy and has trouble taking a big dick inside I could see she was wincing from pain and I tried my best to be gentle with her (maybe she was not feeling well and hungry as she claimed afterwards) and I cannot consider myself very big only normal.
But I did manage to get her going. By going down on her sweet little pussy and by the time I was finished she was literally soaking wet and was having a orgasm from what I could see she hadn’t come like this for a long time her heart was racing she was very blushed and her nipples were very hard and erect. This was no act I can usually tell anyway she didn’t seem the actor type and had nothing to gain by faking it with me.
Her BJ were only ok no more she allowed me to fuck her in a number of different positions she seemed to enjoy riding me best as she was able to control penetration but had difficulty in doing it that way for very long. I ended up finishing in the doggy style she asked me to slow down, as I was too big for her so she claimed.
NOW for the Best Part the whole thing only cost me 300RMB for half hour.
Visited Beijing last month. I have been traveling the globe for more than 20 years & had my best experience ever there. Had the extreme pleasure of meeting Ms. K****. Wonderful woman, wonderful experience. She is great in bed & out (interesting to talk to, great sense of humor)......
Now I know why there are 1.3 billion Chinese!
She may be expensive (compared to others in BJ)...but sometimes in life you really do get what you pay for....and with K**** you definitely get value for money.
Treat her well & you will get an experience to remember!
FloaterinAsia
02-02-03, 19:23
I am going to Beijing in March and I was wondering if the art students are out and about that time of year....I mean, it's pretty cold in March, right? And where exactly do they hang out? I'd also really appreciate any tips on where to stay in the Wangfujing area. I don't want to spend the earth...But the Taiwan sounds too run down. Maybe the renovated Wangfujing Grand?
Anybody have any thoughts about the smaller atmospheric hotels like Haoyuan or Bamboo Garden? Can you bring girls into these smaller, boutique hotels?
I'll be sure to make a full report!
Pekingdog:
Chongwen is quite large. Could you be a bit more precise? What kind of service provider do you mean?
Darrin
To Fellow Ms. K**** fanclub members - Thank You for your recommendations on a wonderful lady. I had the pleasure of spending a couple of days with Ms. K**** before Spring Festival. My first trip to Beijing, now will always have an extremely special place in my heart, because of Ms. K****!
She is a complete package, before, during and after your time with her! A personality and mind to match. I agree with everything "Travlnman" stated below and only wish I was able to extend my time in Beijing. I know, I will be back!
You get what you pay for, so why not make it one of the best times of your life? I did! I was looking for something different in my initial quest of Beijing ladies, but found something even better!
A special thanks to "Intransit" for his generous advice on the Chinese scene!
To FloaterinAsia,
Never tried the Haoyuan but the Bamboo Garden is okay for bringing girls in. They have a teahouse which opens all day long. During day time it's a bona fide teahouse where you can sit and relax with a cup of tea. At night it becomes a karaoke with working girls to keep you company. Strictly speaking they don't allow you to take the girls to your room but you can always negotiate discreetly with the girl. I've taken a girl from the teahouse to my room, and I've also brought back girls from outside. One time she came very late, and about an hour later the maid on duty called my room to remind me that my visitor had been there for an hour, but I just ignored her.
Happy hunting.
To catch some low-end experience, I visited the massage parlor in Guandongdian south street. With its old-fashioned wallpaper, the place looks quite weird. The girls are not spectacular but okay (I saw three of them). I got a nice mid-twenty. When she recognized my dick was moving, she limited her actions to that part of my body... Though she refused FS, we had one hour of fun for 60 RMB.
Btw, unfortunately the great FS MP in a hotel very close to silk alley (Qianmen) closed. Anyone knowing where the girls are got to?
FloaterinAsia
02-05-03, 17:00
To Woovictor,
Thanks very much for the advice. I like the idea of a smaller hotel, especially if I can bring girls in from the outside. I don't know why I keep thinking about those art students!
All the best.
Hello all together,
at first, many thanks to you all for all the very good hints in WSG about BJ and the scene there. Last month I was the first time in BJ and I enjoined it so much. Before I started to BJ, I agreed a date with Miss K****. Maybe I'm the first one, who can give only bad experience about her and for me is she only Mis K*. It can be, that you TeleWip are the reason for that:). So I agreed via E-mail and Phone the evening (night) with Miss K*. After a lot of reconfirmation
in the weeks before and on the meeting day from her and me, So I was staying in my Hotel room and in high anticipation. She supposed to come around 22:00. I was waiting until 23:30 and I called her again. Then she told me that she is very sorry and I should read my E-mail because of she couldn't come. No, she not called me, she have written a E-mail. (It was not possible for me to read my E-mails in the Hotel). Every other cheap rate hocker is calling you and for the price of Miss K* you can await others. I was really angry and pissed of about the lost time and all the lost one's labor.
If I compare that with all my experience in BJ behind, forget Miss K*. You will find even such so good or better in BJ.
Friends, she is only one Girl of thousands there. Belive me, I have a lot of experience around the world and a hocker is not kidding me twice.
In my huff, I took directly a cub to Maggies bar. I was looking around only a few minutes and agreed in 2 minutes a night (700 rmb) with an amazing girl. Just 5 minutes in the taxi, I couldn't stop her, because she was starting to give me a blow job. (:)) I'm just remember the surprised face of the taxi-driver and also my mien).
In the Hotel she have given me the rest. She started to suck all and suddenly I felt her tongue in my ass-hole. Never had this feeling before and in the end she was swallowing too. After a lot of senseless fucking she was leaving my room next morning 10:30 and I was happy again.
The next evening, I was going to Maggies 22:30 too and after a while a very pretty Chinese girl was my choice (800 rmb per night). She and the others girls later on were always correct and have given me all what I asked. Now I need one week Holiday to get my power back:))
Two evenings I was together with the BJ Hunter (gunsmokekimo@hotmail.com) He was driving me to the Holiday Bar. In the Holiday Bar were more or less only Russian girls and some good looking Chinese. But the price range there is crazy. All girls were asking for 200-300 Us-Dollar for the night.. It is too much for BJ. Who the hell is paying so much money??. The evening was ending then at Maggies again and with a wonderful girl for the night (900 rmb):))) The second try with him was in a barbershop. Some very cute beauties there but the place self was so dirty and the price higher as for the Maggies girls, that I decided to go otherwhere. That evening also, in the Hardrock Cafe was more or less no action. (only 3 Girls).
Later on in Maggies again, and I was just starting to agree a night with a very young and cutie Mongolian girl, then the big surprise. Two young, very cute, beautiful Russian girls were crossing my way and I could not overcome the temptation to contact these girls. All what I have done before was nonrelevant and unimportant
after the nights with these black and blond haired girls. The first night (long night to the next morning) was with Maria (Blond, appr. 145cm, 41 kg with a perfect body, range 10, 800 rmb). The other night (22:00- 10:00) together with both (1600 rmb) (Maria and Elena: black,155cm, 45 kg, and with a perfect body too, range 9.5). Every morning I was waking up before the girls self and was doing a good morning fuck:))
So BJ, I miss you already. I love this city and the girls there.
As soon I have more time, I can give the details and also answer questions if you have one:))
Zambo.
Zambo - I hope I was the reason you missed your time with Ms. K****, but after what I have just read, you had a grand time with your various ladies! I think you found what you were looking for, variety and the spice of life! Keep up the good work and enjoying your time in Beijing!
If Ms Kitty is charging $200 US per hour, or $500 US per night, you guys must do a lot better than I do. I wouldn't spend $500 for a REAL runway model in NYC, letalone BJ.
God bless her if she can get guys to pay that, but I won't be one of them. If you are 1 of her customers, do you also pay $1000 US for a massage girl in the US? That would be the same ratio in pricing. JMHO
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