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Jaycynic
11-14-06, 15:09
Hi there,

first evening in Beijing - still too exhausted from jetlag to hit the bars, wanted to relax some, so I scanned the escort ads and decided on Joice (sexyescortads.com), had her come to my room. (Despite Sammy's advise to scan the bars. But, man, can jetlag be convincing.) He was right.

She's about as old as they say (early 20s), nice firm body but with enhancements. BBBJ, the asian cowboy and mish were rather convincing ;-) For this, the price would have been ok - energetic, good technique et cetera. (She tried to lure 2000RMB! for fs out of me, but thanks to knowing this forum, I got about average rates.)

IF she hadn't answered her several phones. I couldn't believe it - and I doubt it would have made a difference if I had paid full price, her attitude is just crap. That sort of cut down the tip considerably, and if we hadn't already gotten down to action already. I was quite happy to see her leave.

Do NOT repeat. Stay away.

I'm still undecided about whether I'll try another escort tomorrow (if someone can recommend one), else I might try and hit the bars early.

Qwer123
11-14-06, 18:01
Just visited the place tonight, being so highly recommended, and it was no disappointment!

First of all a couple of additional helpful points:

The sauna is at No. 25 Chun Xiu Lu, south side of Dongzhimen Dai Jie. The chinese address is below...

北京市朝陽區東直門外大街, No. 25 春秀路.

Previous descriptions are helpful and accurate. Additionally you can also get a proper massage there. The girls that provide FS and massage are different.

After showering, i first went to the 3rd floor, the common room with large screen TV for a relaxing foot massage for 45mins at RMB68. Remember to ask for a girl, there is a guy there that gives foot massage, but he does not wear a miniskirt and does not have big boops.

Then i proceeded upstairs to get a private single room, RMB50 per hour. Reasonably clean and comfortable.

The guy then asked me whether i wanted FS or massage. Proper massage prices are around 200 to 300 depends on the style.

He also gave me a choice for the FS, there are 3 categories:
1) around 540 (can't remember exactly) for 60mins, previously described.
2) around 660 for 70mins - which includes rimming, body massage and BJ (NO FS)
3) 840 (which i paid) for 80mins for buttock massage, anal massage, rimming, body massage, BJ and FS.

I was allowed to go to the room and choose my girl, i was there around 9.30pm and there were 12 girls there. The one I chose is 816, tall, thin and long black hair, small boobs from Dongbei. She was 8/10 for looks and my type.

It turned out to be a great choice, she was unrushed and provided very careful service, and agreed to a BBBJ. The run up to the FS was great and highly recommended. Only one pop though. I emptied around 60mins, that as long as I can last, but she stayed for the rest of the time and gave me a poor but gentle massage.

Highly recommended and i left happy.

The bill came to RMB 966 in the end, i am not sure why, because 840 + foot massage 68 + room 2 hours 100 + entry fee 48 should come to more than that, but i was not complaining.

Definitely visit again.

If you are planning to go to this place it is near Chaoyang area, and closest well known hotels include Kerry Centre, China World Exibition and Traders. WangFuJing is not too far away. I stayed at the new Westin in Financial Street, it was around 15mins by taxi and RMB30.

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Intransit
11-15-06, 02:03
I would like to thank Qwer123, Jaycynic, and Walter P, all relatively new regular members, for filing informative, insightful, and respectful reports. All three have demonstrated that they RTFFed, used the information available, had their own experiences, and then shared them with us.

Gentlemen, the three of you honor us with your contributions. Thank you for being responsible members of this forum. New brethren of ISG, welcome!

SidTheSexist
11-15-06, 03:29
I would like to thank Qwer123, Jaycynic, and Walter PSeconded! Couldnt believe my eyes for a moment!
However, just a point on the Chun Xiu Lu sauna report, you would be nearer the mark with Kunlun, Kempinski and Great Wall Sheraton as the nearest big hotels.
Good stuff!

Beijing Xiber
11-15-06, 12:26
Seconded! Couldnt believe my eyes for a moment!
However, just a point on the Chun Xiu Lu sauna report, you would be nearer the mark with Kunlun, Kempinski and Great Wall Sheraton as the nearest big hotels.
Good stuff!

STS:

I think the 3 hotels you named are still a bit far and in traffic can be an effort to get to CXL Sauna. I think the nearest 5/4 star hotels to Chun Xiu Lu Sauna are the Zhaolong Hotel right next to the Pacific Mall and the 3rd Ring Road, the Swissotel on the corner of Gontibeilu and the 2nd Ring Road or the Asia Hotel right behind the Swissotel. All about a 10 to 15 minute walk.

BJXB

Alex Rock
11-15-06, 14:18
I would like to thank Qwer123, Jaycynic, and Walter P, all relatively new regular members, for filing informative, insightful, and respectful reports. All three have demonstrated that they RTFFed, used the information available, had their own experiences, and then shared them with us.

Gentlemen, the three of you honor us with your contributions. Thank you for being responsible members of this forum. New brethren of ISG, welcome!

Thirded - welcome guys

Jaycynic
11-15-06, 14:39
Learned today that I have to get up early tomorrow for we've got to fly to a customer. Cancelled my bar & sauna plans for the night, because this meant I needed to go to bed early as well.

So, what does a man do? Try another escort (after the fiasko I had yesterday), or the smart thing: have dinner, a massage at the spa at the hotel (which is fairly good, but absolutely no extras) and save the money for the weekend? ... You guessed it.

So I went through some ads. First I started with calling the number on the card under my door today - even though they advertise in English, they don't actually take calls in English. So, that was that.

Next try. Another escort from the web. (I forget where.) Alright - everything arranged, 800RMB for 1h special service, that sounds OK for an escort. Shower, wait 10 minutes, answer the door.

Uhm.

I _definitely_ called another number than yesterday. From a different website, as well. So, ... why ... is that the same girl? I ... don't ... think ... this ... will ... work. Here's 20RMB for the taxi and off you go. (She was apparently too wasted to remember she had been here at the exact same room yesterday - which probably also isn't a good sign.)

For tonight I'm calling it done, and that's also what I am with the escort scene in Beijing. Duh. I guess I'll have to save my cash and energy for Fri-Sun.

(I don't think there'll be any mongering on the short business trip tomorrow, unless I get off the hook in Shenzhen...)

Good night. Learn from my mistakes and forget about escorts in Beijing. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice ...

Albert Punter
11-15-06, 15:27
I agree with BL, only case lurkers are welcomed is when they upgrade to contributors and write informative posts like Qwer123, Jaycynic, and Walter P made recently.

Lu Ren Ja and other lurkers, try to upgrade your position and to help us to help you. Don't be shy or afraid ! Don't be a reader only !



I have been in many forums .....
..... lurkers like myself would not have to skip every other posts here.

K Zero
11-15-06, 20:09
Qwer123, Jaycynic, and Walter P,

Thank you and welcome.

Mock A Bee
11-18-06, 13:32
STS:

I think the 3 hotels you named are still a bit far and in traffic can be an effort to get to CXL Sauna. I think the nearest 5/4 star hotels to Chun Xiu Lu Sauna are the Zhaolong Hotel right next to the Pacific Mall and the 3rd Ring Road, the Swissotel on the corner of Gontibeilu and the 2nd Ring Road or the Asia Hotel right behind the Swissotel. All about a 10 to 15 minute walk.

BJXB

A note on the Swissotel, it seems to be girl friendly and was remodeled a few years ago. Nice hotel, decent service, and is adjacent to a subway stop so you can avoid traffic if you go to China World or other places on the subway.

I recommend this hotel.

MAB

Jaycynic
11-18-06, 13:52
Another report about this one, confirming previous experiences. Very short: Great massage, good to relax, very legit, no extras offered at all.

Still undecided about which place to hit tonight, they all start much later than I like. Poor, English only me ;-)

Mock A Bee
11-18-06, 13:52
Dear village [Deleted by Admin]:

The analogy to the London bought at 250 and seen at 3400 next to Dynasty Hotel, was in correlation to you scoring from 400RMB to 2000$, when actualy other score the very same from free to 200RMB.

Howver too many of you (guess who) are too [Deleted by Admin] to take the time to comprehend anything.

It is all about humility and knowing how to travel…, however cowboys shoot first and then ask. Flashing your little money like kids do it with their toys when they sleep over, or a monkey would do it with his little nuts... you are the one that have spoiled the market.

Admins staffs are taking home 2000RMB

You pay your lowlife girls 800 plus bonus, [might as well print 1000RMB] ...

US Wall-Mart regular staffs get 1200$ in the States.

Since when you pay a regular hooker 600$ in VA or NC, Cal? Not even in MA!!

Look, if you pass me your frequency (demand), salary, and knowing your costs, I would be more than happy to draw and Equilibrium, prompt the Regression and I could surely also pencil point the price Elasticity over a period of time.

PS - AceGaland, bring it up baby, you are a writer on this site, your essays for prose are here to entertain the readers.

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.

It is obvious Midea has a BS in economics. That is, BS = Bullsxxx.

MAB

Red Carrot
11-18-06, 22:22
Just to warn you guys staying near the China World hotel. In case you ever get approached by touts offering massages and/or girls (Operating right next to the building of the World Trade Center, the stretch leading to Silk World), be careful and avoid at all cost!

They'll bring you to a underground floor, where supposedly a KTV is located. You'll choose a girl and rounds of drinks along with food will be served. They'll open up cans of beer like nobody's business and next you'll be presented with a outrageous bill ! Mine came up to more than RMB 5K which I negotiated to RMB 3K poorer.

Should've reminded myself to use my larger head more than my small head. :(

Jaycynic
11-19-06, 04:43
Hi,

A quick question. What's the best way to spend the afternoon in Beijing? The bars only seem to come live at night, and I'm not a night person. (And yes, I did scan the forum, but couldn't find anything.)

Mostly I'm wondering if there's any way how I, with only English/German, could get a girl who actually has a good attitude; mind, I've seen some beautiful girls, and had a few experiences here, but starting out with haggling and an uninspired job ("uh, not so deep! ".) done later just isn't my idea of fun. In Europe, I've found the girls much more. Interested in their jobs. I've made that experience in Thailand as well. Since I have had mostly great sex in Europe and Canada, maybe Asia (which has been mostly hit and miss) just isn't for me.

Sebastian My
11-19-06, 08:48
Just to warn you guys staying near the China World hotel. In case you ever get approached by touts offering massages and/or girls (Operating right next to the building of the World Trade Center, the stretch leading to Silk World), be careful and avoid at all cost!

They'll bring you to a underground floor, where supposedly a KTV is located. You'll choose a girl and rounds of drinks along with food will be served. They'll open up cans of beer like nobody's business and next you'll be presented with a outrageous bill ! Mine came up to more than RMB 5K which I negotiated to RMB 3K poorer.

Should've reminded myself to use my larger head more than my small head. :(

More than any other place in china, beijing is the worst for this type of con. There is a KTV on wangfujing Lu where a few hours of pointless entertainment will end up costing RM6000-8000 - and in this case it was my savy singapore chinese mates which got riped off - and they are use to manila - so it can happen to anyone if you relax your guard. So the golden rule is 1) Never ever follow male touts 2) Only follow female touts you know or have been reccommended. But if you find yourself in such a place - be very very careful.

Intransit
11-19-06, 11:04
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Dumdass
11-19-06, 18:04
Hi,

Was in Beijing over the weekend. Started with a evening flight into Beijing. By the time I checked into my hotel, it was already 8:15. I stayed at the North Garden Hotel in Wang Fu Jing, next to the Oriental plaza.

Since it was not too late and not too early, I decided to call up one of those massage outcall service. I asked the mamasan, or store manager as they are typically called, to send me 2 girls so I can have a choice. She agreed and confirmed my room by calling me on the hotel phone.

45 minutes later, the came a knock on the door. When I opened it, I was greeted by a sweet little girl. She really is little, about 5 to 5'2. Not more than that. You can judge her sweetness with the photos yourself. I asked her where's the other girl, apparently still down at the lobby. So I told her to call her up. Anyways, after viewing, I decided to have the 1st girl.

Had a back massage, which was forgetable. Then onto some nibbling and licking and a BBBJ. She prefers CBJ, but BBBJ cost nothing extra. Then onto the deed. Did couple of possitions, roll around the bed. She was wet and dripping. Her face was even flushed and she was panting heavily. Finished with the good old missionary. After that had another shower to clean up, paid up and see her off.

I paid RMB650 for this episode. It's RMB500 for FS, BBBJ doesn't cost extra. And I think CIM is on the menu as well, but it's not my thing so I never inquire further. The massage is extra, RMB200 for a full massage. Apparently since I only did half a massage she just asked for RMB100. They also require a RMB50 for transportation fee. This wouldn't be fix. They are based out of the North East, somewhere near the Friendship Plaza area. 3some is RMB900.

It was well worth the price. She gave a really good GFE, looks pretty and has a pair of nice breasts. It's about a C cup, although it's not that big since she is so petite. Would definitely repeat my custom. She said she is only 20 and had just finished school last year.

After that, went over to Outback to have a Burger. Found out Beijing is facing a shortage of Foster's. And I was assaulted by 4 touts even with such a short distance. Nearly wavered when a decent looking one approached me. Luckily I had my primal urges satisfied; sex, burger and beer.

Dumdass
11-19-06, 18:06
Hi,

Second and last night of my trip to Beijing.

Paid the Pig a visit, for the first time actually. If anyone was there, I was the Chinese guy standing underneath the self service plaque downing Guiness. I chatted with a Belgian gentleman later on. If you are a member as well, hi again.

Anyways, I was chatting with a blue top girl. She's from Harbin and apparently that was her third time there. The previous 2 times she went for a ST at 12 for USD200. She said she will not budge her price, and she said she doesn't like "laowai". Did wanted me to take her back for the night. Probably just an elaborate front to make me take her.

I was supposed to meet some friends after the Pig, but they cancel and notified me too late. Decided to call an ad I saw on sexyescortads.com. Her name's Amy, the profile name is fieryangel. Anyways, she was able to meet me at about 9:30. Proceeded to take her up to the room.

She likes to kiss and be kissed. She's also quite wet. nice breast as well. She doesn't seem too experienced. She gave me a CBJ, and all she did was just bob her head up and down with no suction. But she did gave a good GFE vibe. Very accomadating girl. Did not watch the time and she didn't even count the money when I handed her payment. Probably seen me counting it.

Although a nice GFE, I would not repeat my custom with her. Sorry no pics. She looks ok, about a 5. A bit on the chubby side. She said she's 22, attending an accounting course in Beijing. She is not a local Beijing girl, she's from Shan Tung.

On an unrelated note, I went down to the Sauna in my hotel. I was staying at the North Garden Hotel. I received 2 admission tickets to the sauna so I decided to use them. Headed down there, seems awfully quiet. It's in the basement and it's only serviced by 2 out of the 6 elevators. Had some problems figuring that out.

Anyways, asked for an oil massage. In come a young girl. She actually looks pretty. Strip me down for a massage, and then the sales pitch hits. I decline all the offer, ending my massage 30 minutes early. For hand relief is RMB800, straight FJ is RMB1200 and FJ with the ice and fire BJ for RMB1800. I would have given her the RMB1200 for a ST if I met her in HRC or the likes. The massage itself cost me RMB388.

K Zero
11-21-06, 20:09
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Sebastian My
11-22-06, 06:29
More associated bits of wisdom i have picked up in the last week, which may be useful.

Hollywood - I finally confirmed why the Russian girls are scared if they think you are Russian, or speak Russian. A lot of the girls tell their family they are working in the markets, which can get you RM4000 a month if you speak mandarin and a bit of English - so its barely possible. If they think you are a Russian, or someone who may actually visit Russia or Uzbekistan - they don't want to know you at all. While the probability is low, the chance of someone recognising them terrifies them. This only applies to the girls who don't tell there mother what they are really doing. The girls who don't care are the ones you will find in absentia, these girls are typically more professional.

The number of girls at Hollywood is down, due to a lack of business. My russian friends indicates the girls don't bother to turn up at 8:30pm anymore and start arriving after 9:30pm and will often miss days. This does not mean there are no chinese guys hanging around, the place is filled with locals, but most of them are just looking.

I have also attached a map of Hollywood showing the basic racial groupings you will find in specific locations. There is a bit of mixing, but typically the Russian and Uzbek's etc all stay in their own zone. The Mongolians hang around with the Russian Asians.

Pig

Its amazing what can occur in 1 month – the selection is down in the pig right now, compared with this time last month, or this time 2 months ago. There were some nice tall aloof Mongolians, but almost no nice Chinese girls. The regulars from the provinces who work the pig, who i know, were not in the bar last night – so i suspect they may have gone home. I suspect some of the US construction workers have gone home for thanksgiving and the girls are staying away.

I caught up with one of my chinese PIG friends and she confirmed that business had dropped in the last 4 weeks, so she did not bother to go to the pig any more. I expect she may return when business picks up.

Street scene

The police are more active this year than the last 3 years. (Of course 4+ years ago the police were everywhere and there was almost no regular street scene, so we need to keep our perspective.) Since condies visits and the African conference the girls at the Sheraton and starbucks are invisible. I walked around the Sheraton parking lot twice and no-one approached me – it was almost like the bad old times. Hollywood, as some may be aware, was closed down by the police for a day a few weeks ago and the business afterward dropped.
I think the street situation will get better by early December, but this could be a continuing trend as we get closer to the Olympics. I would suspect all you old timers need to build up your little black book, unless you want to find your fun in KTV's – which can be pricey for good quality girls.

I will check again this Friday and Saturday to make certain its not a cold weather mid week thing.

Dumdass
11-23-06, 08:37
Hi,

It seems that BeiJing outcall massage services are putting up photos of girls they actually have. Although quite a number of the photos are fakes, it is becoming a trend for them to post photos of real girls. Hopefully one day they would only put up real photos.

Attatched is the photo taken from the website, cross reference with the photos I posted earlier.

Also, I do apologise for my poor writing skill. It seems to have caused some confusion among other readers. I will try to impart some poetic flair as well as linguistic accuracy into my posts from now on.

Regards.

Edit: silly me, forgot to attach the pic in my haste to post up this report.

Shanghaied2001
11-23-06, 09:52
Hi All,

I know it's been mentioned before but I was wondering if anyone has found any websites for Beijing that's similar to the www.******.com in Hong Kong.

Thanks

Moody
11-23-06, 18:36
You will fit right into Moody, Alex the Rock, Intransit's losers league.

Midiot, you sure you wanna keep taking shots at me??? Do I have to bring up what a fool you are again??? Oh wait, I just did. When your IQ rises above room temperature, let me know...

Dumdass
11-24-06, 03:59
Hi,

Shanghaied 2001. As far as I know there are no websites like the 141 in Beijing, or anywhere else on mainland china that I can imagine.

There are a couple of escort websites, but most of them are fakes anyways. The names allude me at this time. Omega escorts is one I think. The price published is high and apparently their escorts are either models, newscasters or the likes.

Apart from that, there are those Japanese websites. You can easily pick up one of those city guide in Japanese around Japanese establishments around Beijing and Shanghai. They have those outcall massage service, and you can also opt to visit their store. most of them have a website, but the photos are mostly fakes or photoshoped.

Regards

Sammy_T
11-24-06, 07:11
Just visited the place tonight, being so highly recommended, and it was no disappointment!
First of all a couple of additional helpful points:
The sauna is at No. 25 Chun Xiu Lu, south side of Dongzhimen Dai Jie. The chinese address is below...
北京市朝陽區東直門外大街, No. 25 春秀路.
He also gave me a choice for the FS, there are 3 categories:
1) around 540 (can't remember exactly) for 60mins, previously described.
2) around 660 for 70mins - which includes rimming, body massage and BJ (NO FS)
3) 840 (which i paid) for 80mins for buttock massage, anal massage, rimming, body massage, BJ and FS.


Thanks to Qwer123's fine post I decided to check out the Chun Xiu Lu sauna last week. I noticed it is just north of the Red House Hotel / Hostel. I have posted a map showing the location of the Red House. It was my best Sauna experience in Beijing.
Upon arrival I undressed and did the sauna thing. Afterwards I went to change into their pajamas and the boy asked if I wanted to go to the 3rd floor. I said no, 4th floor, and he smiled and said "Xiaojie?" Yep, he knew exactally what I wanted.
Went to the 4th floor and was first shown a large deluxe room that cost 200 RMB per hour. It was very nice with a large sitting area, 2 bedrooms, and a private bathroom. The decor was very nice, 4+ star hotel quality. Might be nice for a party, but overkill for what I needed.
I remembered that Qwer123's room was only 50 RMB, so I asked for a small room. He took me to one that had a small sitting area with a bed on an elivated platform. There was a window in the door, but I noticed that there were Japanese style screen-doors separating the sitting area from the bed room. It worked out just fine. After the boy confirmed what I wanted with some pelvic thrusts, he sent girls to my room one at a time. I chose one that spoke a little English. She presented me with a menu in English with the 3 choices mentioned above. I chose option 3, the full package. This included everything but the red rope trick. The girl took her time and did a fantastic job. After she was finished she was in no hurry to leave. All in all the best sauna experience I have had in Beijing. The total cost for me was 996 RMB. A little high, but I think well worth it.
I will be back, but next time I will ask to go to the room where the girls are to choose one rather than looking at them one by one.

Sammy

Boxster986
11-24-06, 12:39
Hey, it's Friday night. and I don't know anyone in Beijing. Anyone heading out for a few beers that don't mind if I tag along? My number is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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Pier20
11-24-06, 13:06
Today as I had time to kill, I went again on www.tom.com to have a look (see my previous posts for details). I was there only to chat and decided not to go out for a SP quest, whatever the girls promise. The main reason is I have been disappointed each time before :

1- The girls are usually not the girls on the pictures
2- They say they live alone but you find at least 2 girls when you arrive
3- Their service is different from what they told you on the net
4- They may refuse to provide or overcharge the service if you are a foreigner

But today one girl caught my attention, certifying she was the girl on the picture (kind of natural pictures taken with a normal camera), she would provide good, non-hurry service, and she was accepting foreigners with no overcharge, full set for 300.

So here I go, thinking I would be disappointed again anyway. And I was when I arrived, a 30-more years old woman came to open the door. She said her friend was out and would come back very soon, received several phone calls which she answered in a strange local language, and tried to keep me seated and wait. Tired of all these bullshits, I decided to leave when THE girl came in. The same face as on the net, nice shape though a little short, so I decided to stay, even if the mama (or the friend) was to be in the room next to us. But she was apparently just a friend and left.

The girl, 22 from Hubei, was the most exceptional provider I have ever met in China. Fantastic BBBJ, Spanish, and I was only able to do her mish as her squeezing pussy made me come early. The whole thing was made in a very GFE atmosphere, and she asked me to stay and have a chat. I left after 3hours with her, she gave me her phone nb and accepted to meet me for diner soon.

Gave her the 300 and a 100 tip for her wonderful attitude (sorry Midea…). But I guess I won’t need any of this next time I meet her.

Midea
11-24-06, 18:02
Gave her the 300 and a 100 tip for her wonderful attitude (sorry Midea…). But I guess I won’t need any of this next time I meet her.:) You will get this girl as a regular at your own place for 150.

Stockings
11-25-06, 04:58
I've to let you guys know that the girls who you played with are absolutly ugly!

Why you guys don't find some 'down to earth' ones?

p.s I know some girls that work part time, and some of them are college students. Fashion models.

Seethreepio
11-25-06, 08:03
Heading to Beijing for 4 days in December. Staying at the Dong Jiao Min Xiang Hotel in central Beijing.(4 star hotel). The hotel has massage and sauna facilities. Just wondering would it be likely the massage would offer some sexual services such as a HJ or BJ along with the massage? Any good saunas near my hotel( walking distance) that offers sexual services. It's my first trip to China, so cheers for any information.

Sebastian My
11-25-06, 11:12
I've to let you guys know that the girls who you played with are absolutly ugly!

Why you guys don't find some 'down to earth' ones?

p.s I know some girls that work part time, and some of them are college students. Fashion models.

I am sorry to disappoint you but i have students and so called fashion models coming out of my ears - these girls will never let you photograph them - thus you will only rarely see good looking girls pictured posted in this forum, thus i would refrain from these trite uninformed posting in the future. But if you do insist on providing vacuous postings in the future, it would help if you could provide some useful information to assist other folks in this forum. Where are these "so called" good looking girls - provide details please.

給我一張更好的圖片今後。

Attached is an example photo type which is more useful - try and post pictures of this nature please, so we can really determine if the girl is attractive or not. (Obviously this is not from beijing - only an example)

Seethreepio
11-25-06, 13:32
What is the deal with taking a girl back to your hotel room say from Maggies(as an example) or ringing a girl from an incalling massage establishment?I will be staying at Dong Jiao Ming Xiang Hotel in central Beijing. Prostitution is illegal in China , can I get into trouble? What is the hotels attitude towards this? Is it easy to get a girl to come back from Hard Rock Cafe and go to your hotel room? What is the price for just a massage an BJ or HJ. I plan to spend 1400 RMB. Cheers for any tips or advice for a newcomer to Beijing.

Intransit
11-25-06, 14:14
SM,

Feel free to share some of your "ear wax" with the rest of us!

Stockings
11-26-06, 01:44
I am sorry to disappoint you but i have students and so called fashion models coming out of my ears - these girls will never let you photograph them - thus you will only rarely see good looking girls pictured posted in this forum, thus i would refrain from these trite uninformed posting in the future. But if you do insist on providing vacuous postings in the future, it would help if you could provide some useful information to assist other folks in this forum. Where are these "so called" good looking girls - provide details please.Do you know why they don't let you to photograph? LOL

RPWT

Albert Punter
11-26-06, 15:44
New friend,

All answers you are looking for are already here, in this thread and in Report of Distinction thread.
Just spend some time reading and learning.

P.S. Please do not spend RMB 1400 for massage with HJ or BJ.
That is far too much for this type of service.





What is the deal with taking a girl back to your hotel room say from Maggies(as an example) or ringing a girl from an incalling massage establishment?I will be staying at Dong Jiao Ming Xiang Hotel in central Beijing. Prostitution is illegal in China , can I get into trouble? What is the hotels attitude towards this? Is it easy to get a girl to come back from Hard Rock Cafe and go to your hotel room? What is the price for just a massage an BJ or HJ. I plan to spend 1400 RMB. Cheers for any tips or advice for a newcomer to Beijing.

Hello2003
11-26-06, 20:45
because the search engine doesn't always point to specific posts, but points the monger to the forum that he must then scroll through on his own time.


What is the deal with taking a girl back to your hotel room say from Maggies(as an example) or ringing a girl from an incalling massage establishment?I will be staying at Dong Jiao Ming Xiang Hotel in central Beijing. Prostitution is illegal in China , can I get into trouble? What is the hotels attitude towards this? Is it easy to get a girl to come back from Hard Rock Cafe and go to your hotel room? What is the price for just a massage an BJ or HJ. I plan to spend 1400 RMB. Cheers for any tips or advice for a newcomer to Beijing.I have not stayed at the Dong Jiao Ming Xiang Hotel. However, in Beijing I have stayed at the Lido, Great Wall Sheraton, Kerry Centre, and Traders. The only one to avoid as non-girl friendly is the Sheraton. So it is likely you will be fine bringing women back to your room.

Can you get in trouble? Not likely.

Is it easy to get a girl to come back from HRC or elsewhere? Yes.

For a newcomer, go to places like Maggies or HRC. A girl for the night will cost you between 600-800. At these places, higher than 800 makes you a newbie, and lower than 600 makes you someone to avoid.

You will learn the ropes from there. If you want cheaper experiences, then you take more risk. Go to the HRC after 11:30pm. If you don't like what you see there, head over to Maggie's around 1:00AM.

Both these places are good for the new Beijing monger.

Sebastian My
11-27-06, 01:29
Do you know why they don't let you to photograph? LOL

RPWT

Most real student and fashion models do not wish their photo's posted on the internet - especially in this site. Low-class proffessional girls or girls from the farms don't seem to care, but most of the chinese girls i go out with work in offices or are students (I must admit the only so called fashion models i have gone out with worked at high-class KTVs, so lets ignore them), so they do not wish their photo's (even if they are innocent) posted on a web site designed to assist men to find sex. I think you can imagine why.

Dumdass
11-27-06, 03:09
Hi,

Most chinese gals seem to shy away from the camera, be they fashion models or Miss Kripy Kreme.

I can imagine it being weird for them if you want to take their picture once they have slept with you. Not all freebies are nympho, so they might not like it if you publish her pics along with contact details and what nots. Of course unless they have given you explicit request to pimp them out.

And if it's just eye candy you want, you're on the wrong forum. I do realise that most of the girls published here will never grace any mag cover, except maybe for "Mingers Monthly"(kidding). But seriously, would they be selling their body for a mere few hundreds if they can?

Also, I'll like to point out that I did not paid thousand over for a kinky massage. I decline all the 'offer'.

Again I do apologise if I have detrack this thread from it's original purpose.

Regards.

Albert Punter
11-27-06, 13:09
When you search, you have option on how you want results to be shown: Threads or Reports.

Just select Reports and you will make your search more effective.



because the search engine doesn't always point to specific posts, but points the monger to the forum that he must then scroll through on his own time.

Albert Punter
11-27-06, 13:17
I have a question for all of you.

Do you tell the girls what you are going to do with their pictures ?
And, specifically where you are going to post them ?

Normally, I don't.
If everybody answers no, why should the girls be afraid about us taking pictures ?
Of course they may imagine their pictures posted somewhere, but then it all becomes a matter of trust between her and you.




Most real student and fashion models do not wish their photo's posted on the internet - especially in this site. Low-class proffessional girls or girls from the farms don't seem to care, but most of the chinese girls i go out with work in offices or are students (I must admit the only so called fashion models i have gone out with worked at high-class KTVs, so lets ignore them), so they do not wish their photo's (even if they are innocent) posted on a web site designed to assist men to find sex. I think you can imagine why.

Lao Ma
11-27-06, 13:49
In town for a day, staying at the Landmark tonight. Walked over to Kempinksi and was assaulted by 7 or 8 young cuties working in small packs, roaming like wild dogs. Lot of them look young - too young. Half were inside the shopping mall corridor at the entrance to the Italian joint. A girls gotta stay warm I guess. Then a bunch more on the bridge, and two mamasans in front of Hard Cock. Walked over to check out the new Passions (this is all before 8:30) and saw a few drop dead babes arriving there, even at this early hour.

So I guess if you are in beijing tonight, get over to the HRC area, lotta action over here

Papi Putito
11-27-06, 16:53
I’m headed back to Beijing in a week and would like to find something new. I am well versed on the regular spots, Maggies, HRC, The Pig, Hollywood, etc. but would like to land a top-shelf model-type if I could find one without too much time invested. I have RTFF so it seems as though there are no sure bets any longer for a double-digit girl. Passions is gone and the new spot is legit I hear and The Diamond is also not really a good bet either according to what I have read.

Anybody have any more recent information as to where one might go sporting to land an exceptional hottie without haveing to chat her up all night?

Happy hunting.

Boxster986
11-28-06, 03:01
I'm not sure if this was posted before. but I kinda stumbled into a little scam the other day.

Here's how it works.

1. I am in a chat room looking at ladies and getting their qq info.

2. A girl starts to chat with me, and invites me to go for a drink.

3. She sends me her picture, (hot) and tells me where we should meet.

4. We meet, she looks even better in person, great!

5. Walk into a bar, sits down, and she suggests a bottle of red wine.

6. i look at the menu, 880rmb for a bottle of arbor mist! (arbor mist is cheap shit that costs less than 10 bucks at the grocer store)

7. Then she orderd fruit platters, pop corn, etc. 80 rmb for fruit, 40 rmb for pop corn, etc.

8, at the end, 1000+ rmb, for a bottle of red wine with a hot chick.

I attached her photo below.

Sammy_T
11-28-06, 05:46
I’m headed back to Beijing in a week and would like to find something new. I am well versed on the regular spots, Maggies, HRC, The Pig, Hollywood, etc. but would like to land a top-shelf model-type if I could find one without too much time invested. I have RTFF so it seems as though there are no sure bets any longer for a double-digit girl. Passions is gone and the new spot is legit I hear and The Diamond is also not really a good bet either according to what I have read.

Anybody have any more recent information as to where one might go sporting to land an exceptional hottie without haveing to chat her up all night?

Happy hunting.

Following Lao Ma's post right below yours, I would suggest you go to the new Passions early in the evening, say 9ish, find a couple of model types and get their phone numbers. They will probably not go with you on that night, but you should be able to call them for service the next day.

Good Luck!

Datiao
11-28-06, 09:19
I'm not sure if this was posted before. but I kinda stumbled into a little scam the other day.

Here's how it works.

1. I am in a chat room looking at ladies and getting their qq info.

2. A girl starts to chat with me, and invites me to go for a drink.

3. She sends me her picture, (hot) and tells me where we should meet.

4. We meet, she looks even better in person, great!

5. Walk into a bar, sits down, and she suggests a bottle of red wine.

6. i look at the menu, 880rmb for a bottle of arbor mist! (arbor mist is cheap shit that costs less than 10 bucks at the grocer store)

7. Then she orderd fruit platters, pop corn, etc. 80 rmb for fruit, 40 rmb for pop corn, etc.

8, at the end, 1000+ rmb, for a bottle of red wine with a hot chick.

I attached her photo below.I do not understand why did you agree as you saw 880 on the menu and knowing it cost 10?

I guess she's must been too hot to handle.

Seethreepio
11-28-06, 14:56
because the search engine doesn't always point to specific posts, but points the monger to the forum that he must then scroll through on his own time.

I have not stayed at the Dong Jiao Ming Xiang Hotel. However, in Beijing I have stayed at the Lido, Great Wall Sheraton, Kerry Centre, and Traders. The only one to avoid as non-girl friendly is the Sheraton. So it is likely you will be fine bringing women back to your room.

Can you get in trouble? Not likely.

Is it easy to get a girl to come back from HRC or elsewhere? Yes.

For a newcomer, go to places like Maggies or HRC. A girl for the night will cost you between 600-800. At these places, higher than 800 makes you a newbie, and lower than 600 makes you someone to avoid.

You will learn the ropes from there. If you want cheaper experiences, then you take more risk. Go to the HRC after 11:30pm. If you don't like what you see there, head over to Maggie's around 1:00AM.

Both these places are good for the new Beijing monger.Cheers! Thanks for the tips. I am new to all this so just need a bit of guidance. I think I will try HRC or Maggies. Could you clarify what you mean by a girl for the night. I thought it would be something like this. Meet a girl at HRC, take her back to your hotel room after agreement, have sex, and then she leaves 1 or 2 hours later. Total cost would be around 800 yuan. If she stayed the night until the morning it would mean paying the hotel a 1 night fee for her staying in your room for the night and perhaps she may charge you again for the time. I am inexperienced so just want to avoid any traps and getting done with my money which you often see with people new to this.

============================================

Hi Guys,

Actually, the search function WILL display specific reports instead of the entire thread if you select the correct option in the Advance Search dialog box.

Thanks,

Jackson

Zimroel
11-28-06, 20:35
My trip to China lead me to Beijing, Dalian and Chongquing (August 2006).

I've stayed one week in Beijing. An ugly town apart some interesting sites (summer palace ...). Anyway I liked to wander on Wangfujiang avenue, the biggest commercial street close to the forbidden palace where the beautiful chinese like to go. I started with the sauna center of my 4 star hotel Dong Xiao Ming Xiang. It seems each hotel in China has a sauna parlour where special service is available (starting with 3 stars).

There was the boss at the entrance with a nice masseuse. There was a menu with different kind of massages (thai massage...) and I chose the cheapest 200 yuan (20 euros) because I had something else in mind. Because I played cheap a less beautiful girl came in the room and I negociated FS for 450 yuan (she wanted 800 at the beginning).

The girl was medium but the session was really good, hardcore, BBBJ, fingering to widen the thight girl. I don't know if you can negociate directly at the entrance, didn't dare.

It was a good start but a little bit expensive. At the sauna center of my second 3 star hotel Harmony, the mamasan pointed the standard massage at 100 yuan and lead me to the room where I negociated sex for 400. The masseuse was not better but the session not so good, BJC.

It was too expensive for me so I went to the bar Maggies I know with this site. It seems it's the best of Beijing with mongolians available for LT. I went, discovered that mongolians don't reach the ankles of chinese and left. Sex will wait Dalian.

(see the photo section)

Hello2003
11-28-06, 22:06
First, Jackson and the other gentleman pointed out my mistake about searching. Sometimes I just click the search link at the top of the page which seems to just point to forums. The "Search within this Thread" is much more helpful. My bad.


Could you clarify what you mean by a girl for the night. I thought it would be something like this. Meet a girl at HRC, take her back to your hotel room after agreement, have sex, and then she leaves 1 or 2 hours later. Total cost would be around 800 yuan. If she stayed the night until the morning it would mean paying the hotel a 1 night fee for her staying in your room for the night and perhaps she may charge you again for the time. 800 is the MAX you should pay. That figure is the sweet spot for these kind of places that cater to westerners. As a newb, go ahead - the HRC regulars will treat you well for that amount. It's your dime. You can negotiate down to 600 at either Maggies or the HRC, but the girls will all talk and you will probably be seen as a cheap guy - and the better will avoid you the next time you show up, which will probably be the next night. Ha! Most will stay with you through the night, and give you a free pop in the morning. You will even find that some give you head in the morning just to avoid leaving and want to hand around you more. Your cost of the hotel will be the same regardless of if you sleep alone or not, so I don't get your point with that. No extra fees, if that is what you mean. I've had some girls from Maggies wait until I fell asleep then leave me a note with their digits on it after the deed telling me I am too much to handle (lol), and so they left. Some of these girls work their asses off and you are the third, fourth or fifth guy they've been with that night. I've had some interesting experiences. A few with private drivers who want to spend the next day with you. Even if you decline all of a sudden you have a free driver for the day. A few who give you gifts as you politely show them out the door because you are already thinking about the next night. Some will grab your mobile phone and call themselves so they can then call you back the next day to see if you want to hook up again. Some will tell you they are tired of the bar girl life and want to "make baby with you". I've had all kinds of weird things like this happen to me.

Some of the hottest ones at Maggies, HRC and the Pig and Whistle -- when they first meet me, they think I am so serious, almost intimidating. Well, I am serious. I don't drink too much and some of these ladies are absolutely beautiful. I'm there for sex, if I wanted to just party I would not visit these places. I am very picky and I have a good reputation with the girls at all these places. Been mongering there for four years now and have a good collection of regulars on the scene to play with.

Also, it's a great relief to get away from one of the clingy freebies who while relatively easy to get with once you make a connection with them, will stifle your movements. But I don't think you will be a long enough visitor to Beijing to get involved in that whole scene. So stick to the pros for now.

Since you have not been to Beijing before, and are a self-proclaimed newbie, I recommend the three places mentioned above.

Lastly, I want to let you know that you won't have to worry about speaking Chinese at these places. I speak Chinese okay, but at these places the girls all speak English and I don't think you will be disappointed the first time you dip your toe in the pool at these places.

Have fun and if you are going to these places on your own, just keep your wits and don't have too many drinks. You'll be fine. Take care.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Road Lover
11-29-06, 02:19
Hi,

Was in Beijing over the weekend. Started with a evening flight into Beijing. By the time I checked into my hotel, it was already 8:15. I stayed at the North Garden Hotel in Wang Fu Jing, next to the Oriental plaza.

Since it was not too late and not too early, I decided to call up one of those massage outcall service. I asked the mamasan, or store manager as they are typically called, to send me 2 girls so I can have a choice. She agreed and confirmed my room by calling me on the hotel phone.

45 minutes later, the came a knock on the door. When I opened it, I was greeted by a sweet little girl. She really is little, about 5 to 5'2. Not more than that. You can judge her sweetness with the photos yourself. I asked her where's the other girl, apparently still down at the lobby. So I told her to call her up. Anyways, after viewing, I decided to have the 1st girl.

Had a back massage, which was forgetable. Then onto some nibbling and licking and a BBBJ. She prefers CBJ, but BBBJ cost nothing extra. Then onto the deed. Did couple of possitions, roll around the bed. She was wet and dripping. Her face was even flushed and she was panting heavily. Finished with the good old missionary. After that had another shower to clean up, paid up and see her off.

I paid RMB650 for this episode. It's RMB500 for FS, BBBJ doesn't cost extra. And I think CIM is on the menu as well, but it's not my thing so I never inquire further. The massage is extra, RMB200 for a full massage. Apparently since I only did half a massage she just asked for RMB100. They also require a RMB50 for transportation fee. This wouldn't be fix. They are based out of the North East, somewhere near the Friendship Plaza area. 3some is RMB900.

It was well worth the price. She gave a really good GFE, looks pretty and has a pair of nice breasts. It's about a C cup, although it's not that big since she is so petite. Would definitely repeat my custom. She said she is only 20 and had just finished school last year.

After that, went over to Outback to have a Burger. Found out Beijing is facing a shortage of Foster's. And I was assaulted by 4 touts even with such a short distance. Nearly wavered when a decent looking one approached me. Luckily I had my primal urges satisfied; sex, burger and beer.

This is the most interesting information for me DD. Thanks for writing something about room service in Beijing. Where did you get the number for this service?

DayNight
11-29-06, 03:42
I'm not sure if this was posted before. but I kinda stumbled into a little scam the other day.

......

I would always be on alert when a girl insists to go to a certain place of her choice only. In fact, that would simply not happen, it's my choice or none.

Reminds me a bit on the hotties that approach you in WangFuJin with the "Art Student" scam...

Intransit
11-29-06, 04:35
Jackson,

What is the correct search choices to bring up specific posts instead of whole threads? Thanks.

SidTheSexist
11-29-06, 07:26
8, at the end, 1000+ rmb, for a bottle of red wine with a hot chick.I attached her photo below.
She does look good tho!! Could you not have refused the wine and negotiated the same price for a session? I know that would have been the only thing on my mind with her!!
Sid

Boxster986
11-29-06, 08:49
I do not understand why did you agree as you saw 880 on the menu and knowing it cost 10?

I guess she's must been too hot to handle.Yeah, she was pretty hot, but at that time I didn't realize the scam yet. I actually opted for a more expensive French bottle, cuz I knew arbor mist was shit. anyway, I actually had a good time with the girl. I guess going out in San Fran for a night of drinking costs around 100 bucks too.

I wanted to be sure that this was a scam, so the next day, i went on the same chat room, and another girl started chatting with me regarding going drinking, and we exchanged phone numbers, and she asked me to meet her at a spot. When my taxi arrived, it was the exact same street as my meeting place with the first girl. That's when I was sure that this was a scam.

Boxster986
11-29-06, 08:58
I would always be on alert when a girl insists to go to a certain place of her choice only. In fact, that would simply not happen, it's my choice or none.

Reminds me a bit on the hotties that approach you in WangFuJin with the "Art Student" scam...That's the scary part. I was the one that picked the bar. She picked the general area. (hou hai) which means these girls are connected to all the bars in the area. She probably comes in, and flashes a sign with the bartender, and they bring over a "special" menu. Then she gets paid a percentage after we leave.

Intransit
11-29-06, 09:03
C'mon, girls like her are a dime a dozen in Beijing and would cost less than that bottle cost for all night. Just ask Midea.

DayNight
11-29-06, 09:33
She does look good tho!! Could you not have refused the wine and negotiated the same price for a session?

Seems you didn't get it. It's a scam. Once you discover the scam she will lose interest and go. She was never avalable and probably never will be.

I use QQ too and it's good to know that such sharks are hunting in QQ.

picklesworthy
11-29-06, 12:08
Jackson,

What is the correct search choices to bring up specific posts instead of whole threads? Thanks.When doing an advanced search, look under search options at the lower left where it says: "Show results as"

Pick "reports" instead of the default which is "threads".

Seethreepio
11-29-06, 13:17
First, Jackson and the other gentleman pointed out my mistake about searching. Sometimes I just click the search link at the top of the page which seems to just point to forums. The "Search within this Thread" is much more helpful. My bad.

800 is the MAX you should pay. That figure is the sweet spot for these kind of places that cater to westerners. Most will stay with you through the night, and give you a free pop in the morning. You will even find that some give you head in the morning just to avoid leaving and want to hand around you more. Your cost of the hotel will be the same regardless of if you sleep alone or not, so I don't get your point.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.The hotel room(4 star hotel) is prepaid on a package tour for 4 nights for 1 person(Single room). I was under the impression if a visitor(whoever it may be) visits you in your hotel room, and decides to stay over for the night, that you would have to inform the hotel reception staff and pay for that person for staying the night in your room. I am not sure what the hotel rules are in China for that situation. Could you confirm I don' t have to pay for the visitor for staying the night? I live in Japan and it is a different rule. You have to pay for the visitor if they decide to stay over night in your single room. Cheers for your informative post!

Albert Punter
11-29-06, 13:50
here we are with the answers




Hi Guys,

Actually, the search function WILL display specific reports instead of the entire thread if you select the correct option in the Advance Search dialog box.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]



When you search, you have option on how you want results to be shown: Threads or Reports.

Just select Reports and you will make your search more effective.





Jackson,

What is the correct search choices to bring up specific posts instead of whole threads? Thanks.

HornyAsianDawg
11-29-06, 15:25
Will probably get flamed for not searching, but all the BJ thread usually revolves around picking up chicks at the HRC or what not.

Just wondering if BJ had some good fa langs like they do in Southern China. Something you can pull up in a cab, and then take away.

BJ experts please guide me in my seach. Thanks.

Albert Punter
11-29-06, 16:57
I admit my ignorance as I don't know what "fa langs" mean.

Maybe you can find an answer in this report

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=397852&postcount=3283

which covers all mongering possibilities in the Capital city.



Will probably get flamed for not searching, but all the BJ thread usually revolves around picking up chicks at the HRC or what not.

Just wondering if BJ had some good fa langs like they do in Southern China. Something you can pull up in a cab, and then take away.

BJ experts please guide me in my seach. Thanks.

Sebastian My
11-30-06, 00:37
The hotel room(4 star hotel) is prepaid on a package tour for 4 nights for 1 person(Single room). I was under the impression if a visitor(whoever it may be) visits you in your hotel room, and decides to stay over for the night, that you would have to inform the hotel reception staff and pay for that person for staying the night in your room. I am not sure what the hotel rules are in China for that situation. Could you confirm I don' t have to pay for the visitor for staying the night? I live in Japan and it is a different rule. You have to pay for the visitor if they decide to stay over night in your single room. Cheers for your informative post!

As long as the hotel is girl friendly and does not insist on registering the girl, there is no chance you will need to pay extra. My russian friend normally stays with me for 5-7 days at a stretch when i am staying in a nice hotel and i have never payed any extra (apart for breakfast, room service and mini-bar, which always takes a beating when i have some-one stay over.)

Sebastian My
11-30-06, 00:45
Will probably get flamed for not searching, but all the BJ thread usually revolves around picking up chicks at the HRC or what not.

Just wondering if BJ had some good fa langs like they do in Southern China. Something you can pull up in a cab, and then take away.

BJ experts please guide me in my seach. Thanks.

There are street walkers which are available for a quick auto-pick up. Last time i looked there was no-one around due to some form of police crack down, but i read a report which indicates the mama-sans are back in the sheraton parking lot - so i suspect the SW's are active again.
They are normally on the other side of the HRC towards GuoMao (South) late in the evening - but i have never parktaken of this type of entertainment so have no idea of costs or quality - i would assume its cheap and the girls are not so great - but probabaly similar to the SW's i occassionaly see in SZ and GZ.
There are other locations i have seen them, Kunlun Hotel, Lufthansa Centre, etc - but i have never seen these girls picked up by auto - so i am not sure if this will assist you.
However i have no idea what the taxi driver would say, most of the guys i see pick up the girls in their own car. So make sure you get a male taxi driver at least and carefully test the waters. I assume you speak pudogwa.

Superforce99
11-30-06, 06:31
I was in Beijing for a few days recently but my schedule was pretty choppy with biz dinners, meetings,
and other things that would always pop-up or get cancelled without any real warning. I didn't really want
to go all the way out to HRC/Maggies since I'm not too familiar with Beijing and didn't feel comfortable not
knowing how much potential time it would take to seal the deal with any gals. I was staying in the Crowne
Plaza near the Olympic Park and there are a few KTVs and clubs within walking distance as well as 5 minute
cab rides. KTV isn't my thing and didn't fit my bill for a quick pickup either and I finally broke down and
called a massage gal to come over to my room after she finished work one night. This wasn't the best
idea since my non-mongering boss and I ALWAYS go to this place and this gal had been heavily flirting
with me everytime and I decided to call her on her teasing. She's a nice gal and not a stunner, but the
sex was GFE all the way and she didn't have condoms and I didn't have condoms and the Crowne Plaza
doesn't have condoms, so...well, I'm just hoping she doesn't go out with many customers and I'll be checking
myself for any symptoms in the next few weeks. Also, that was on the last night I was in town, so the next time
I'm in BJ, I wonder how awkward it's going to be when my boss and I go get a massage at her place of work...
And just to try and make things somewhat clear, I stuffed 300 RMB into her pocket and said "taxi money" when
she left in the morning. No comment from her, but she didn't give it back either, so that's good, I guess...

Other options include the touts who routinely pass out business cards with pics of Japanese AV stars
and mobile numbers for "massage." Actually, this time there were no touts out in the open and only a
couple that approached you discreetly if you are a guy walking alone back to the hotel. Apparently, there
was some policeman who was murdered and it involved these touts. Anyway, I decided to search the forum
for...my own report! Ha ha...luckily, I had listed some telephone numbers a few months ago in the BJ section
and I called up and arranged for a gal to come over. Price started at 600 and came down to 500 RMB / 2 hours
pretty easily. All negotiating was done in Chinese, though.

Gal arrived and was...less than appealing. She wasn't horrible, but being spoiled in South China, she was
a 100 RMB BBS gal and I had a hard time accepting that I would pay this gal 5x that rate. Ended up chatting
with her in a friendly way and found out that the touts are just middlemen and she gave me a direct number
to the mamasan. Price was still 500 / 2 hours but my feeling is that 400 RMB could be easily agreed upon.
I had her send another gal over and I had the same general assessment on her looks as the first. And
both smelled strongly of cigarette smoke, which I don't like. Ended up using the 500 RMB on a nice dinner
and massage instead.

If I had more time and a better schedule, I'm sure Beijing offers many more mongering options than I was
was able to take advantage of. If you want those telephone numbers, just do what I did, and search the
forum...

J

GlenEagle
11-30-06, 08:29
Could you confirm I don' t have to pay for the visitor for staying the night? I live in Japan and it is a different rule. You have to pay for the visitor if they decide to stay over night in your single room. Cheers for your informative post!

The same rate is applied whether it is single or double occupancy. In some places like Bangkok, some hotel charges you extra for a joiner, but it is not applicable in China.

Autumn Lover
11-30-06, 13:52
Some talk recently about girl-friendly hotels. Wondered if people can provide a list of girl-friendly hotels in this city. Hotels that don't ask questions about our companions, don't require extra fee and, if possible, don't require the extra guest to register. Personally speaking, I'm particularly interested in the latter for my forthcoming visit.

Thx,

AL

DayNight
12-01-06, 03:06
I will go up to the capital soon and have no clue where to stay. I just know the city spreads out a lot and I don't want to spend ages in taxis.

What's a good location for a tourist? And who has a hotel recommendation in the rmb400-500 range.

GermanSurviver
12-01-06, 10:31
Hi Day Nigth,Autumn Lover

Last week I was in Beijing.

The "Fu Jian" Hotel is very Girl Friendly. No questions. Nothing any time.

The rooms are still clean and comfortable.

The Hotel is located at the 3 ring around 5 km far from HRC.

Have Fun,

GS

PenanGuy
12-03-06, 02:08
Thanks for all the useful info. I am heading down to Beijing soon and would like to check out the scene.
After reading through the treads, I jotted down the following few places worth venturing:
1) HRC (Hard rock cafe)
2) Maggie's
3) Pig
4) Whistle

Could anyone help translating those address in Chinese? My trip will completely rely on taxi drivers and so it will be good if I can show him the clubs in Chinese. It will also be extremely helpful with the street name in Chinese too.

Canada
12-03-06, 03:54
If you want addresses on these places just go to the hotel concierge and they will write it out for you in Chinese for the taxi driver.

Canada
12-03-06, 04:15
Hollywood: Got back to Beijing last night and decided to try Hollywood one more time as I never had any luck there previously. Plenty of Russian girls and I started talking to a very pretty tall blonde . She informed me prices were non negotiable and every girl was same price 800RMB one shot and 2500 RMB for all night. THere are too many nice Mongolians and Chinese in Beijing to pay these stupid prices. Especally since her attitude sucked also. Not going to waste my time there anymore.
Maggies: Went to Maggies about 11:30 PM and the place was packed. A Mongolian girl I have picked up many times had a guy sitting with her and said she was committed already so I had to survey the pack. Plenty of girls to choose from and I found another stunning Mongolian but she did not have her ID and the Holiday Inn Lido won't let her in without it after 11:00 PM. Picked up another great looking Mongolian about 1:00 AM and went back to hotel. Very attractive girl but very shy, just sat by herself in a corner all night. Gave a good BB on second round and agreed to allow CIM. I think this may have been the first time for her doing this as the shock on her face was amazing. She could not swallow and started apologizing. Effort was definately a 10. Real nympho in bed as round 1 and 2 took us until after 3:00AM. Tried to get some sleep and she started back up around 6:00 AM touching and sucking so we had round 3 and then back to sleep until 8:30AM. Would have stayed longer and definately would have had round 4 but 3 was plenty for me.
You just don't get this kind of service from the Chinese or Russian girls and I recommend if you really want a GFE you can't go wrong with the Mongolians. Stick with HRC and Maggies.

SidTheSexist
12-03-06, 08:18
Thanks for all the useful info. I am heading down to Beijing soon and would like to check out the scene.
After reading through the treads, I jotted down the following few places worth venturing:
1) HRC (Hard rock cafe)
2) Maggie's
3) Pig
4) WhistleJust for the newbees, Maggies is RiTan Park South Gate. In Chinese this is RiTan GongYuan Nan Men. As previously mentioned, I still find it rather difficult to get this across to some of the taxi drivers so also Guang Hua Lu is useful but then you need to know where abouts the park is.
The "Pig & Thistle", formely "pig & Whistle," is located in the Holiday Inn Lido Hotel. LiDo FanDian shoud get you there relatively stress free. Im a little suprised about Canada's recent comment stating you could not get a mongolian girl into the holiday inn?? Were you trying to go in through the main doors? Ive never actually stayed there but I just assumed it had to be the most girl friendly hotel on the planet.
Done the Chun Xiu lu sauna last week so I will have a report written up soon.
Sid

Canada
12-03-06, 11:35
Sid: On the Holiday Inn Lido situation I brought the girl in thru the back by Starbucks but they had a security guy in the hall way by the elevator and another at the front entrance. They had no problem with me bringing the girl in as long as she had ID. They don't charge you anything extra. Not a huge problem just an inconvrnience.

Albert Punter
12-03-06, 12:24
I have searched in my survival kit of business cards and found attached, which may be useful when in the taxi.

One list many attractions, including Sanlitun bars strip.
Other is for Great Wall Sheraton, which is location for New Passion club, and it is at 3 minutes walking distance to Hard Rock Cafe.
Last one is for Holiday Inn Lido which is location for Pig & Thistle club.

Sorry nothing available for Maggie's (I am a little ashamed to admit that I have never been there).


Thanks for all the useful info. I am heading down to Beijing soon and would like to check out the scene.
After reading through the treads, I jotted down the following few places worth venturing:
1) HRC (Hard rock cafe)
2) Maggie's
3) Pig
4) Whistle

Could anyone help translating those address in Chinese? My trip will completely rely on taxi drivers and so it will be good if I can show him the clubs in Chinese. It will also be extremely helpful with the street name in Chinese too.

Bad Boy Billy
12-03-06, 23:28
Well done Albert with trhe Holiday Inn business card.

I tried to get a business card from 'The Pig' a number of times but they just do not have them.

If guys want detailed address info on all major 'hooker' bars in Beijing just do a search in this thread.

I have previously posted business cards for following.

1. Hard Rock Cafe
2. Maggies
3. Hollywood
4. Absenta

No excuse for anybody requiring this info in future - just RTFF.

Alex Rock
12-04-06, 01:20
For people who still don't RTFF

Unzip and click to load placemarks into Google Earth

GermanSurviver
12-04-06, 10:33
BTW, I have to say "Thanks"

I RTFF and find every places and beauty girls there.

So Thanks again to the Senior Members, who help some Neewbies in the City..

Be pity that we didn't meet us. I was all the time with an "funny" Pin on the Road :) The Problem was that the Girls "love" this Pins, so I made some "small presents" to her.

Sorry again for my Bad english.

Anyway if any SM came to Germany let me know ;)

GS

Lan Jiao
12-05-06, 04:38
Bros,

I will be visiting friends in Beijing from 6-15 Dec. Been active in the Malaysia KL tread and have RTFF in Beijing tread.

I will be with my HM but hope to sneak out and have some action. My Beijing friend is a lady so no cheong recommendations I guess.

Having read the Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing and other recommendations from great brothers here, I will be exploring (if time permits) the following place:-

1) Sauna at Chun Xiu Lu
2) Hard Rock Cafe
3) Maggies
4) Hollywood
5) Pig & Thistle

FR to follow!

I am Chinese and speaks & read Pu Tong Hua (Mandarin). Any suggestions and recommendations will be humbly accepted.

Thanks.

LJ

SidTheSexist
12-05-06, 06:18
I am Chinese and speaks & read Pu Tong Hua (Mandarin). Any suggestions and recommendations will be humbly accepted.
First suggestion, unless you've got a few friends in town, your probably not going to get into Maggies! Its harsh, but they dont often accept Chinese guys, especially newbees.
I was in there last night for a bit. The place packed out between 12-1am with a good selection.
Sid

Intransit
12-05-06, 08:23
If you're already bringing coal to Newcastle, then Maggie's and any other take-out venue is off the menu anyway. If you're Chinese and sprechen sie Mandarin, then in many ways the world's your oyster anyway. Go for saunas (i.e. Chun Xiu Lu) and other places that are available for dine-in options.

Alex Rock
12-05-06, 12:23
I am Chinese and speaks & read Pu Tong Hua (Mandarin). Any suggestions and recommendations will be humbly accepted. You can watch the Manchester Football Derby and monger at the same time at the Friendship Palace - in the Friendship Hotel. You'll need to tell the girls which colour to cheer for.

Travelin Guy
12-05-06, 15:54
Some talk recently about girl-friendly hotels. Wondered if people can provide a list of girl-friendly hotels in this city. Hotels that don't ask questions about our companions, don't require extra fee and, if possible, don't require the extra guest to register. Personally speaking, I'm particularly interested in the latter for my forthcoming visit.If you don't mind a little higher prices (~ 1200RMB per night including the service charge), I can recommend The Ascott (Ya She Ge) serviced apartments. I've never had a question asked at any hour, as you can bypass the front desk area completely and use the side entrance to your tower. The location is good too, its on the SE corner of the GuoMao Bridge, behind the Motorola Tower. About 7 min by taxi to Maggies, about 9 min to Hard Rock Cafe.

And yes, the Mongolian girls in Beijing are just unbeatable for GFE, I've had some of my best pay-for-play experiences with them.

Asd Qwert
12-05-06, 17:47
I am in Beijing at the Crown Plaza on Wangfujing Ave. I posted a report yesterday on the China East other area about Danyang City. I haven’t seen it hit the boards yet ( I am a regular Member), so I hope I am doing this right.

I explained that when I am in china it is always on business. The people I travel with are mostly female so the exploring is typically solo. After late evenings and early mornings of work related times my ability to check out a scene is fairly limited. In Danyang I had a very good time using Hotel inhouse service, but I know that that is fairly expensive in Beijing.

I have read the forum about “never go with touts”, but I have had a lot of success with a few of them out front of the Crown Plaza. I have stayed here several times. After traveling in the south and only getting cctv 9 for a week I need a few more English channels.

Once you walk out the front door of the hotel and turn the corner there is always at least one asking you if you want to go to her club. I know enough that that is not a good ideal. At that point you simply say that you want to see what she has to offer that night and that 400 for a short time is what you paid last time. That is probably too much, but as I am always too tired to negotiate it works for me.

At that point several girls will come out of the wood work. It may take a few before you find what you are after. They are all typically Chinese locals, or at least that is what they say. I don’t know enough to know better. I have never been disappointed.

Tonight I got back to the hotel after 11:00 pm (23:00) and won’t have meetings until 10 am so I thought it would be a good night to see what the street had to offer.

I went out side and the usual touts were there. I typically see Anne. She never remembers me, but that is probably a good thing. She started to produce the troops. The first girl was named Meng Xin. I almost sent her back but since it was past my bed time I said OK. When we got back to the room and did the unwrapping I was pleasantly surprised. She had such a smoking body. We had a very nice time and she gave me her number. I may call her later in the week.

I have never had the time to visit the typical places in Beijing. Hopefully some day I will have more time to fully explore.

Justlikeyou
12-06-06, 04:08
That's probably the right word to describe this 24 years old, cosmetician who provided me with comfort and warmth in recent cold winter days when she was on-leave.

Since she's beginning to get dangerously silly ideas about our relationship, I think it's best for me to cut her loose and move on.

She's working in Chaoyang Qu, around Jin Song Zhong Jie, and gets off work at 5 pm.

Let me know if you wish to take it from here.

Canada
12-06-06, 10:05
Staying at Holiday Inn Lido and needed a mobile phone shop so concierge gave directions to the shop. Next to it there is a sex shop. Went in and they have real Viagra plus other stimulents, good condoms and a small variety of sex toys. Bought 4 tablets 100MG for about 300RMB. A pretty handy stop for those who come unprepared for the pigs entrees.

Canada
12-06-06, 10:07
Forgot to give the directions. Go out front entrance to street, turn left and go 1 block to bridge. The shop is right under the bridge.

DayNight
12-06-06, 11:32
Staying at Holiday Inn Lido and needed a mobile phone shop so concierge gave directions to the shop. Next to it there is a sex shop. Went in and they have real Viagra plus other stimulents, good condoms and a small variety of sex toys. Bought 4 tablets 100MG for about 300RMB. A pretty handy stop for those who come unprepared for the pigs entrees.

You should buy medicine in a pharmacy only. Viagra and similar can be bought in any pharmacy in China. You can also have a look at this link:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=526121&postcount=658

Asd Qwert
12-06-06, 14:05
You should be medicine in a pharmacy only. Viagra and similar can be bought in any pharmacy in China. You can also have a look at this link:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=526121&postcount=658When I was in Danyang earlier this week every time I would walk into a department/ grocery store the women at the druggists counter would flash a packet with little blue pills at me and point to my crotch. I guess that was what she was selling. I wasn’t buying so I don’t know exactly. I think that the knock offs are all over the place.

Asd Qwert
12-06-06, 17:02
I am still in Beijing. I made the mistake of not following my rule of no repeats. I traveled for about 6 hours today round trip to visit a customer and when I got back I called the girl from last night, Meng Xin.

She arrived and was nice, but not as nice as I remember her last night. She was still very nice, but not the same. I guess in this business the new and unknown is sometimes most of the fun.

After morning meeting tomorrow I am off of work for a day. I plan to try one of the much talked about clubs, Maggies, the pig, Etc.

I hope to meet someone from the forum to take to about China. I am fairly familiar with Europe, Mexico, Brazil and Dubai from year of business. China and most of Asia is still fairly new to me.

SiDeWinDeR
12-06-06, 17:49
Staying at the Traders Beijing, and went out at 10pm. Half expecting to bump into street walkers which will be falling all over the place. This is Beijing, and furthermore Winter. There are none. Walked towards the Silk Market, but I took the pavement outside of the hotel property (Jiangoumen Hotel) and was not approached. Thinking about Plan be, which is a problem. "What the heck is Plan be? ", I decided to take the path along the hotel and passing through the Jiangoumen Hotel, a lady approached and was selling Karaoke packages something ridiculous like 2 beers, 2 hour room for RMB100. Sounds like a scam, but she also offered ST ladies. 2hrs RMB600 was the opening, LT RMB800. Was not in the mood to negotiate till I see the "goods". She whips out her local China made mobile and dial the "bat" mobile. Quite literally it's the black Santana, and unbelievably 7 girls jumped out of the car. That itself already worth RMB100 for entertainment. In terms of looks. Seen much better at Sz BBS. But its cold, and I need to warm up. So, I said "Not interested", and the price drops to RMB400. Cut the story short. We settled for RMB300, 2hrs for 1 deed and a massage. Guess it was a slow night, the chosen girl accepted or basically just dreads getting back into the bat mobile.

She's 22yrs old, from Hubei and part-time at night to pay for her tailoring course. She had nice perky tits, the bummer was. She said "No BJ for RMB300". That was a spoiler, but aint gonna get into giving her more RMB to settle that. She tuned out to be a good sport and, I made a date to take her clubbing tomorrow and LT for RMB300, she will call in sick and not work. Heck, it's a good deal to me.

The Traders is Girl-Friendly.

Asd Qwert
12-07-06, 03:50
[QUOTE=SiDeWinDeR]Staying at the Traders Beijing, and went out at 10pm. Half expecting to bump into street walkers which will be falling all over the place. This is Beijing, and furthermore Winter. There are none. Walked towards the Silk Market, but I took the pavement outside of the hotel property (Jiangoumen Hotel) and was not approached.

I am staying at the Crown Plaza Beijing. There are still many of the street Mama out front. There was many more in the summer, but I'am still amazed how the come out of the wook work when you show your face out side the hotel. Is 300 a typical number for the street girls?

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Hi Asd Qwert,

It appears that you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Lan Jiao
12-07-06, 05:04
Bros,

I will be visiting friends in Beijing from 6-15 Dec. Been active in the Malaysia KL tread and have RTFF in Beijing tread.



Staying at Home Inn ("Ru Jia") located at Fang Zhuang area.

Noticed that there are MP available but didn't take any action. Then at about 9pm at night, a lady called up saying if any massage service by lady is needed... I turned down wondering if they may send a MILF.. hehehe.

Will start looking for some action after completing the obligations with HM & friends, and of course will post FR.

Cheers

Lj

Sebastian My
12-07-06, 06:18
I have read the forum about “never go with touts”, but I have had a lot of success with a few of them out front of the Crown Plaza. I have stayed here several times. After traveling in the south and only getting cctv 9 for a week I need a few more English channels.

Once you walk out the front door of the hotel and turn the corner there is always at least one asking you if you want to go to her club. I know enough that that is not a good ideal. At that point you simply say that you want to see what she has to offer that night and that 400 for a short time is what you paid last time. That is probably too much, but as I am always too tired to negotiate it works for me.

Tonight I got back to the hotel after 11:00 pm (23:00) and won’t have meetings until 10 am so I thought it would be a good night to see what the street had to offer.

I went out side and the usual touts were there. I typically see Anne. She never remembers me, but that is probably a good thing. She started to produce the troops. The first girl was named Meng Xin. I almost sent her back but since it was past my bed time I said OK. When we got back to the room and did the unwrapping I was pleasantly surprised. She had such a smoking body. We had a very nice time and she gave me her number. I may call her later in the week.

Clarification - never go with a tout to a bar or KTV, its always a rip off. Using a tout to get a girl for take-away is generally ok, although my rule is to only use female touts and never walk too far from where you met the tout - if its legit they will be able to get a selection of girls to come to you - normally in a car.

SiDeWinDeR

The mama-sans around the china world have not been around for a few weeks - there was some trouble with a tout and a policeman several weeks ago and the hotel security keeps them away - as a result you will find the mama-sans in all sorts of strange locations and offering very good deals. Jianguemen hotel is the home of the famous Diamond Age, i have never seen touts in front of that hotel before - so they are obvioulsy rather despeate.

K Zero
12-07-06, 07:54
Just be aware that there are many fake Viagra in China. They are all really well done and look alike.

I know this, because I usually bring alot of them to give to govt. officials that I need to have contact with. They told me that it is not just expensive, but there are too many fake Viagra on the market to really know which one are real.

They already have people giving them (govt. officials) money and such. So my ticket "to win their heart" would be to get something that they can't really get in China. My father is a doctor, and I get my Viagra from the Pfizer's official distributor back home.

So, please make sure that the Viagra you buy is real, or bring it from back home.

Road Lover
12-07-06, 12:08
I stayed at the Executive Apartmentsof Marriott at Palm Springs. It is in a complex of residences in an enclave. There is a no lobby. This whole placeis dead and no street action. No traffic in the hotel itself. So when my business associate put me up here, my heart sank. Not only sourcing the girl, but also bringing her back to the room were both big challenges. Or so I thought.

It was late by the time I checked in. i was tired in addition to being dissappointed. I opened the room. The bed atleast was inviting. As Iheaded towards the bed, I noticed the discreet playcard offering in-room massage services. My spirits lifted a bit. I thought, if not all the way, atleast my achingmuscles will get a relief. SO I called the At your service desk and asked for a massage. It was 200 per hour. They had the girl in 30 minutes.

Good massage. It all looked legit. SHe was in her massage tunic and was not stripping it off. BUt after half an hour of serious massage, her fingers started straying into my nether regions and I knew the game was on!

It was a fantastic night. Good massage. Good service, of course with restrictions. Couldnt do oral on her. could do clit stimulation but no finger penetration. Only insured contact allowed. But i still like it. SHe was relatively young, may be around 25. Nice figure and attitude and at the end my anxiety was fully released!

SHe wanted 2000 for the full service and i could settle her for 500. SO the deed lasted one and half hours with a good massage and good sex with a decent chinese nymph. Either she can really act well, or she actually seemed to enjoy it al, which is always an additional bonus.

Asd Qwert
12-07-06, 13:15
Clarification - never go with a tout to a bar or KTV, its always a rip off. Using a tout to get a girl for take-away is generally ok, although my rule is to only use female touts and never walk too far from where you met the tout - if its legit they will be able to get a selection of girls to come to you - normally in a car.Thanks for the help. I never go anywhere that I have not picked. It never is good.

What will the usual rip off be here. Expensive drinks, money to talk with girls and not sex or something more sinister?

Walter P
12-07-06, 16:04
In Beijing Thursday night, I did something I shouldn’t have. That’s right, I answered one of the That’s Beijing ads for massage. It was “Angle” She looks great in the photo, green shirt and lovely smile.

News flash: the photo is not the woman who shows up at the door.

What an idiot I was for thinking she would be.

Funny, when I called her she was working on another guy (I could tell by her hushed voice) and when she was leaving me she got another call. She had a busy night, I guess.

Anyway she’s pretty ugly and has bad skin and fake breasts. I mean, seriously fake breasts, like there's a piece of cement in there. It was horrible. A nice backside, however. Great saddle.

Damage was 500 total. She quoted 180 for a massage and then 600 for sex on the phone, and when she showed up, she told me it was 1800. She said a guy had recently paid her 2000. We haggled but that didn’t last long, and we got it to 500 total. Still too much, but beggars can’t be choosers.

Oh, and she had bad breath. So yeah, if you must, just flip her over and stay behind her. That's fine.

Jon Jones
12-08-06, 01:40
I had no trouble at the Courtyard. In fact, the first morning I was awake about 5AM due to the time difference and decided to take a walk. When I entered the elevator, there was an outstanding girl who had spent the night with another gentleman. Since I had no doubt she was a working girl, I asked her if she a some time.

Right back to my room for about an hour at a deeply discounted morning rate. Good way to start a trip.


Gentlemen,

I am considering one of the following hotels for an upcoming visit to Beijing:

1) Beijing Hilton
2) Courtyard Beijing
3) Renaissance Beijing Hotel

Do any of you fellow mongers know if any or all are girl friendly? Thanks.

OAH

John Lee
12-08-06, 09:51
Hi, Everyone:

Can you advise about where we can find SW (street walkers) in Beijing (location, time of the day, and damage)?

Canada
12-08-06, 11:07
You can find numerous street walkers from about 6:00 PM to Midnight from Great Wall Sheraton walking to Luftansa center. Normally 10-15 mostly Chinese locals aged 18-30, some look younger. Damage about 300-400RMB ST normally.

Wonderer
12-08-06, 16:56
I had several times a SW from between the GW Sheraton and the LH center. Unfortunately, the experience was always bad - or mixed in the best case. Either they had bad attitude (do it as quickly as you can), or were a "dead fish", or did not get wet at all, or turned out to bee too fat when undressed, or...

I have made much better experience with the girls I found in the HRC, just next door. Even though the damage is usually a bit higher (you can get full night for 800), the pleasure is ultimately bigger.

My last experience was with a girl from the Holiday Inn Lido, the Pig bar. This bar was packed with girls of all qualities, and some quite nice ones. I had a tall and quite pretty one who turned out to be very hot and very much into it. She definitely had two real orgasms and was totally wet. She stayed overnight, and it was a very good experience. Damage 800 Rmb.

After all these experiences, the SW in the mentioned area just do not exist anymore for me.

If anyone has better or good experiences - let us know.

Wonderer - and happy hunting - on and off the street...

Sebastian My
12-09-06, 03:08
Thanks for the help. I never go anywhere that I have not picked. It never is good.

What will the usual rip off be here. Expensive drinks, money to talk with girls and not sex or something more sinister?

The normal rip off is they put you in a KTV room, you select a girl to be your companion. As you get to know her the drinks will get very expensive, the girl may suggest some new expensive drinks or food, and at the end of the experience you can pay up to RM8000 for nothing more than a talk and a cuddle. You may be able to negociate it down to RM3000 - but its still a lot of money for very poor entertainment.

If you are ever silly enough to actual try and have sex with them in the room, even a hand job, then they can bust in the room and say they will call the police if you do not give them heaps of cash or take them to an ATM and extract as much as possible out of it.

As for violence, its possible - i have never heard of a case in beijing, but as there are normally 3-4 big guys who bring the bill or threaten you, if you try and fight your way out i am sure some nasty stuff can occur. I think it was a male tout who killed the policeman last month - i have no idea what actually occured, but it at least gives you an idea violence is possible - although in beijing rare, especially against a laowai.

Canada
12-09-06, 08:20
I agree with Wonderer. You will get a greater experience from the girls at HRC or the Pig. The Pig was probably at its best that I have seen it last night. A model type came in about 10:15. Absolute best looking, best body I have seen in the Pig. Walked by me to the bar giving me the eye. She ordered a drink and in a flash a guy came out of nowhere, started talking to her and wisked her out the door 5 minutes after she arrived. I will never be that slow again. Went to Maggies about 11:00 and it was extremely busy. Talent seemed to be up at Maggies also. Came close to picking up a couple of great looking girls but my Mongolian sweety came in and I could not pass her up. We drank and danced till 3:00AM, got back to the hotel and she informed me she drank to much and wanted to sleep. She made up for it as at 8:00AM she gave me one of her fabulous BBJTC with CIM and swallows every drop. Went back to sleep and she woke and started on round 2 about10:00 AM And there are some great ones. Went home at 1:00PM and coming back at 4:00 to go out again. The selection is so good at Maggies and the Pig and there are at least 10 girls I would love to try but if you get a great one its hard to move on.

Hello2003
12-09-06, 11:46
Hi everyone,


You will get a greater experience from the girls at HRC or the Pig. The Pig was probably at its best that I have seen it last night. A model type came in about 10:15. Absolute best looking, best body I have seen in the Pig. Went to Maggies about 11:00 and it was extremely busy. Talent seemed to be up at Maggies also. I know this is somewhat common knowledge, but I want to share my insight into the absolutely safest way to go for newbies. Too many times we hear about ripoffs, etc. from people who don't know better. And always the same story.

I'd rate the Pig the best place to start the evening. The reason is the action starts the earliest there and many of the girls go back down to the bar after they finished their business with the previous client. And yes, I too have seen some stunning looking women there. Do not hesitate when you see them!

My background, as a foreigner in China is that I mostly juggle freebies. That gets complicated, but tonight I realized I have spent a total of one year out of the last four in China. I have to say I don't spend a lot of time here unless I am gearing up to return, which I am tomorrow. So I am looking forward to arriving. I could write lots of advice on the freebie world, but that is for another topic. For instance, how to deal with your freebie, non-working girlfriend when she shows up at the hotel after the inevitable Chinese GF fight (she initiates, LOL), and after you run off to the Lido to breakup, she shows up to try and fix things with you, and you are visiting the shops next to the Pig with her, hearing the music, and hoping nobody you know says "hello".

Anyway, the Pig is great. For those who have never been, it really is a tiny bar. It's a square bar with not so many tables, a couple of dartboards. I agree (as someone just wrote) that when you see a girl who interests you, move fast. Again, do not hesitate! They are there on business. And so should you be! You can become their friends later. Or during the time you spend with them at your hotel or wherever. Okay?

Oh, one of the questions a girl will ask you... and they will almost ALWAYS ask you this question, is "How long you stay in China?". I recommend that you answer this question by saying you will be there for a few months, even if you are going home the next day. I say this for two reasons:

1) They will think of you as somebody who can become a "good friend" and therefore provide you with better service the first time you are with them.

2) They know you are not a likely candidate for any scam because they know you will back and will see them again after any such scam.

And if you both liked the experience, you can contact her without having to go the bar when you are in some hotel somewhere, you just dial up this girl who became your "special friend". She will show. I don't mind repeats. Sex gets better the more you are used to a woman, even if you pay for it.

I prefer Maggie's over HRC, but sometimes the HRC can be good if you want a Chinese girl. But Maggie's rules. It's a good place to hang out really late at night even if you don't want to monger.

Okay, this was long, but I always see RTFF and I just want to help out people who ask questions. I don't want to fight with anybody. I don't have an ISG ego to protect, I just want to monger... hehe.

Finally, as my Chinese is good enough now and I actually will be spending a fairly long time in Beijing this round, I am going to explore some of the cheaper aspects of mongering in Beijing and will give you my reports.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

It feels good to know I will be back there next week.

And if I get bored one evening during this trip,and am taking a break to recollect myself inside my hotel room, I will write about some good experiences (meaning I controlled the situation) with touts. Touts are a pain, the secret is to scam the tout. If a tout can offer you a girl you think is hot, and you feel safe with it (going back to your hotel with her), she will most likely try to use you to scam the touts. More on this later, but nine out of ten times, these SW girls will make a deal with you to cheat their pimp.

But the general rule is to avoid them. And void KTVs unless you are with a group with at least one native speaker of Chinese.

I'll give you one more observation and generalization about the Beijing scene I have learned over the past four years. They are incapable of keeping secrets. Anything you tell them will be shared among family and friends, guy or girl, even your Chinese colleagues, especially in the freebie world. The working girls will just discuss whether or not you were scary, and if you gave them a hard time, and if they enjoyed it, you will know.

So be careful what you say!

Anyway, I will report on action as I see it after I arrive. As usual, I will be mixing my business with pleasure as I roam between the decision to hook up with a long-term freebie, and my ongoing fascination with the world of mongering.

Mattiii
12-09-06, 12:23
May I ask a stupid question. Where is this Hollywood. I have just moved Beijing. I have already been Maggie' s nice place. HRC? . What other good places are there in Bejing?

Papi Putito
12-09-06, 12:45
A word to fellow mongers who visit Maggies. Always be excessively wary of the security. I saw a guy there last night and he was goofing around with a waitress and she dropped some glasses/bottles on the dance floor. A bouncer came over in a flash with his flashlight to guard the area and keep patrons away. This poor slob tried to help undo his blunder and pick up some of the shards. Immediately the bouncer knocked him back pretty hard and for a second, it looked like he was going to pummel the guy. It calmed down, but just a note to let you know that some of these guys, whole normally quite docile, are very serious and can be a bit aggressive.

Pro Hunter
12-09-06, 18:42
Good to know that. Please share.


That's probably the right word to describe this 24 years old, cosmetician who provided me with comfort and warmth in recent cold winter days when she was on-leave.

Since she's beginning to get dangerously silly ideas about our relationship, I think it's best for me to cut her loose and move on.

She's working in Chaoyang Qu, around Jin Song Zhong Jie, and gets off work at 5 pm.

Let me know if you wish to take it from here.

Alex Rock
12-10-06, 07:14
Sex gets better the more you are used to a woman, even if you pay for it. ---- I don't want to fight with anybody. I don't have an ISG ego to protect, I just want to monger... hehe. ---- .... I actually will be spending a fairly long time in Beijing this round, I am going to explore some of the cheaper aspects of mongering in Beijing and will give you my reports. ----- .... They are incapable of keeping secrets. Anything you tell them will be shared among family and friends, guy or girl, even your Chinese colleagues, especially in the freebie world. ------ Anyway, I will report on action as I see it after I arrive. As usual, I will be mixing my business with pleasure as I roam between the decision to hook up with a long-term freebie, and my ongoing fascination with the world of mongering.Well written and great observations especially about local girls talking about everything with their friends and great point, you don't want to fight with anyone.

I don't know if you like going to the singles "pick up places" or as some Chinese girls call them, the "one night stand places". Most guys who post here seem to discuss mongering with working girls and focus on the Pig, HRC, Maggies, Hollywood and Absenta rather than going to look for freebies at the other great places around.

A few years back, I gradually found out how fantastic (but sometimes exhausting) life for a divorced single western guy can be in Beijing. If you speak Chinese, Beijing can be a paradise for older single guys. If you like mongering there’s the spectrum of types of working girls from sw’s, to mp’s to long time pros, to KTV types, urban Chinese, countryside Chinese, northerners, Chongqing’ers Mongols, Russians, semi professionals, Passion types and high class escorts.

If you like freebies, Beijing is also fantastic. Chinese girls don’t have the same hang ups’ about age difference Western girls do, so no-one thinks it’s unusual for an older guy to be with younger girls . You want you can choose women from 20 to mid 40’s (and older if you want.) It’s a complaint for Western women how unfair the scene is for them.

Places like Suzie Wong’s, Goose and Duck, CD Cafe, Big Easy (before it closed), Latino’s (newly opened behind New Poly Plaza) Salsa Caribin, Vic’s, Brown’s and places like that have lots of great Chinese girls, usually in pairs, sometimes in larger groups. They are not working girls (though occasional wg’s go there). Girls in groups are very happy to chat – you just say “Hi” and they are very friendly. They take you to new places or to eat with a group to some ice cream place, etc etc etc. If you want casual relationships, some are happy to have them but they do talk about you. If you held her hand on the gear stick, if you were polite, if you kissed her etc., but they seem to stop when it comes to whether they slept with you. If a girl has decided she’s marking you as off limits to the other girls in her group then she tell her group she’s sleeping with you. Chinese girls/women that go to those places in groups seem to want the ambience and fun atmosphere. Some are going there to meet guys – not necessarily Western, some are ready for “one night stands”. In Goose & Duck girls might approach you to play pool or darts.

Demographically, we have the choice from 20 through 50 year olds if we want. I find the 20+ age fun and great sexually, but prefer the 30+ age group, though a couple of 40+'s have been long term casual gfs. Older women are more experienced in life, better established, liberal, world wise and fun. Some are desperate to find a husband because of their biological clock and try too hard. Females love to be matchmakers for their friends and introduce you to incredible women you’d never meet in the usual bars. The excess of divorced or single 30+ Chinese women is heavily imbalanced in our favor. And, many are not in a rush to hitch up at all. The old idea that Chinese women want a foreign passport has long gone out of the window. These women don’t need your money. They are attractive, well educated, have businesses, homes and cars. Their experience of failed relationships means they are not starry eyed about marital bliss. Many of their 30+ and 40+ ex-husbands seem to have chosen 20+ secretaries or even attractive KTV girls so relatively speaking there are few eligible Chinese guys in these age groups.

Anyway. I for one look forward to reading about your roamings. Good luck and please keep up the great writing!!

Irv Washington
12-10-06, 18:39
Can any Beijing regulars tell me what the Beijing scene is like during the May holiday period in the first week of May?

I'm thinking of coming to Beijing for a few days in the first week of May 2007.

I understand that this is a "holiday week / period" all over China including in Beijing.

I will be heading to the popular monger venues such as The Pig, Maggie's, HRC. What are these place like in the May holiday period? Not busy? Same as normal? Busier than normal?

I have searched the board's postings in May of previous years but can't find any detailed comments relating to this.

If any Beijing locals could give me their opinions on Beijing during the May Holiday season, I will be very grateful.

Do you think the first week of May is a good time to hit Beijing or do you suggest I change my dates?

Thank you

Pro Hunter
12-10-06, 23:40
Hi Alex, Finally we have someone talk about S/Wong, G&D and so on.

In fact, I am staying nearby and used to be a regular "hunter" there. The issue now is after getting "hooked" up with them and bored after sometime thru your experiences. What is the best way to "let go" once you have the next more attractive target to go for?

Seem like they will "die" for you or another word, commit suicide if you ask for "divorce". Haha!

Would like to know whats the common tricks being used by senior "hunters".


Well written and great observations especially about local girls talking about everything with their friends and great point, you don't want to fight with anyone.

I don't know if you like going to the singles "pick up places" or as some Chinese girls call them, the "one night stand places". Most guys who post here seem to discuss mongering with working girls and focus on the Pig, HRC, Maggies, Hollywood and Absenta rather than going to look for freebies at the other great places around.

A few years back, I gradually found out how fantastic (but sometimes exhausting) life for a divorced single western guy can be in Beijing. If you speak Chinese, Beijing can be a paradise for older single guys. If you like mongering there’s the spectrum of types of working girls from sw’s, to mp’s to long time pros, to KTV types, urban Chinese, countryside Chinese, northerners, Chongqing’ers Mongols, Russians, semi professionals, Passion types and high class escorts.

If you like freebies, Beijing is also fantastic. Chinese girls don’t have the same hang ups’ about age difference Western girls do, so no-one thinks it’s unusual for an older guy to be with younger girls . You want you can choose women from 20 to mid 40’s (and older if you want.) It’s a complaint for Western women how unfair the scene is for them.

Places like Suzie Wong’s, Goose and Duck, CD Cafe, Big Easy (before it closed), Latino’s (newly opened behind New Poly Plaza) Salsa Caribin, Vic’s, Brown’s and places like that have lots of great Chinese girls, usually in pairs, sometimes in larger groups. They are not working girls (though occasional wg’s go there). Girls in groups are very happy to chat – you just say “Hi” and they are very friendly. They take you to new places or to eat with a group to some ice cream place, etc etc etc. If you want casual relationships, some are happy to have them but they do talk about you. If you held her hand on the gear stick, if you were polite, if you kissed her etc., but they seem to stop when it comes to whether they slept with you. If a girl has decided she’s marking you as off limits to the other girls in her group then she tell her group she’s sleeping with you. Chinese girls/women that go to those places in groups seem to want the ambience and fun atmosphere. Some are going there to meet guys – not necessarily Western, some are ready for “one night stands”. In Goose & Duck girls might approach you to play pool or darts.

Demographically, we have the choice from 20 through 50 year olds if we want. I find the 20+ age fun and great sexually, but prefer the 30+ age group, though a couple of 40+'s have been long term casual gfs. Older women are more experienced in life, better established, liberal, world wise and fun. Some are desperate to find a husband because of their biological clock and try too hard. Females love to be matchmakers for their friends and introduce you to incredible women you’d never meet in the usual bars. The excess of divorced or single 30+ Chinese women is heavily imbalanced in our favor. And, many are not in a rush to hitch up at all. The old idea that Chinese women want a foreign passport has long gone out of the window. These women don’t need your money. They are attractive, well educated, have businesses, homes and cars. Their experience of failed relationships means they are not starry eyed about marital bliss. Many of their 30+ and 40+ ex-husbands seem to have chosen 20+ secretaries or even attractive KTV girls so relatively speaking there are few eligible Chinese guys in these age groups.

Anyway. I for one look forward to reading about your roamings. Good luck and please keep up the great writing!!

Pro Hunter
12-11-06, 00:08
Back to China after few months, and re-visited back to Lufthansa shopping mall. Seem to be a bit more quiet nowadays at that area. Anyone know what happened recently?

Used to call this girl from SiChuan province months ago, who used to be very active at Lufthansa Shopping Mall.

She called herself Shirley, at the age of about 25. She is no longer contactable thru her mobile, and guess that is common thing for them.

Anyone "visited" her recently? Please let me know.

Anyone has new findings in that area, especially outside Lufthansa and at the beer house at the back of the hotel/shopping mall, please share.

Zaishoudu
12-11-06, 01:24
I haven't lived in Beijing for a while (nearly 10 years), but go back on business and vacation from time to time. I tend to enjoy the hunting more than the outcome (though both can be good fun), so this past week I took a bit of a different tact than many of the ones noted here. I'm the whitest guy you'll ever meet, but I do speak some Chinese and can read/write even better Chinese.

First, I stayed at the Kerry Center and had no issue at all with 2 different girls heading up to my room, neither of whom was registered by me in any sort of way, nor even escorted -- one very late, even. The mall entrance is good for this.

As another poster did, I hung out in the TOM chat boards, but nobody I approached (or who approached me) seemed to be up for drop-in service. Lots of good (fake) pictures being passed around though. Several of them didn't have an issue with the fact I was a (white) foreigner though, so if you're talking to someone in a "high end apartment" and know the area (most seem to be in the HaiDian district, which isn't terribly convenient to the GuoMao area) and can deal with the fact that the pic may not be real, then you can go for it.

Eventually moved on from TOM to a few of the classified systems (think CraigsList). On a system like Naalee you're looking for ????, which covers assorted life services (like housekeepers, etc...). Under ?? heading here, you can find various assorted classified ads, most with mobile numbers. The ones you are looking for there will all talk about providing "services for men" but not generally talk about what other than "stress relief".

The people at these numbers will generally not speak a word of English. In most cases they will be completely unfamiliar with foreigners on an individual basis and have a lot of preconceptions. To avoid issues, I immediately start with the fact that I'm a foreigner and ask if this is okay.

I made initial contact via SMS and one person didn't believe I was a foreigner. A quick phone call made this pretty darn clear, but even then she SMS'ed me on her way over saying she hoped I wasn't trying to cheat her somehow.

The second girl had a huge deal of concern prior to finalizing the appointment about the size of my thing. I'm not sure which one of you with your massive thing is going around giving these girls this impression, but she was clearly relieved when she saw the results. :-) But this is exactly what I mean by misconceptions based on lack of experience with foreigners.

That said, the first girl was good. Don't remember name at all, but had a bit of a school girl look. Started with a decent, but certainly not professional massage. Good attitude, but a little rushed. CBJ before the action. Agreed to about 500 plus some cab fare. Could have gone lower, but didn't. Nice, but probably wouldn't repeat as I've had better.

Second one was clearly a country girl (Cici was the name she gave, but seems to be a very common WG name). She doesn't list that name in the ad. Was a lot of fun making the appointment, but the main event was a bit of a disappointment. Virtually no BJ. I did all the work. No effort at a massage. Was inexpensive though - 300, and she was decent looking. Asked for a bunch for cab fare, of which I gave in for a portion of...

I'd share the numbers, buy you could find them just as easily on the classifieds and probably have better luck than me. Don't bother trying to arrange unless you can at least speak some very basic information in Chinese, but you can probably get by without being fluent if you know what you're looking for, can say the chinese name of your hotel, the amount you want to spend in Chinese, and a few other things like that.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

WontYouBeMyGirl
12-11-06, 11:39
Hi there,

Thanks to the senior members in Beijing, I've been this afternoon to this address, but I am a bit confused.

I went there, and there were big signs for a massage parlor, but at n°24 and not 25 as stated here. On top of that, when I arrived, the massage was on the first floor and not on the 3rd or 4th.

I didn't know what to take from the English menu so the mamasan (pretty young) suggested the Korean Massage, 200RMB for 60 min. Overall a very good massage + HJ + anal touching. The girl didn't quote anything during the session, and that was OK as I only wanted a massage and a HJ. She could have been more smily, but she was very good. I remember the price of the chinese massage in the Bay area for a lame service. Anyway, when the deeds were done, I paid the 200 RMB, and on my way out offered to tip the girl (as you do in other countries), but she declined.

Nevertheless, I'm very grateful for this first experience in Beijing, and I didn't expected that much, as I speak 3 words of mandarin!

If you think I should have asked something else for FS, gone to another place or climbed the stairs, feel free to tell me.

Cheers

WUBMG


Thanks to Qwer123's fine post I decided to check out the Chun Xiu Lu sauna last week. I noticed it is just north of the Red House Hotel / Hostel. I have posted a map showing the location of the Red House. It was my best Sauna experience in Beijing.

Upon arrival I undressed and did the sauna thing. Afterwards I went to change into their pajamas and the boy asked if I wanted to go to the 3rd floor. I said no, 4th floor, and he smiled and said "Xiaojie?" Yep, he knew exactally what I wanted.
Went to the 4th floor and was first shown a large deluxe room that cost 200 RMB per hour. It was very nice with a large sitting area, 2 bedrooms, and a private bathroom. The decor was very nice, 4+ star hotel quality. Might be nice for a party, but overkill for what I needed.

I remembered that Qwer123's room was only 50 RMB, so I asked for a small room. He took me to one that had a small sitting area with a bed on an elivated platform. There was a window in the door, but I noticed that there were Japanese style screen-doors separating the sitting area from the bed room. It worked out just fine. After the boy confirmed what I wanted with some pelvic thrusts, he sent girls to my room one at a time. I chose one that spoke a little English. She presented me with a menu in English with the 3 choices mentioned above. I chose option 3, the full package. This included everything but the red rope trick. The girl took her time and did a fantastic job. After she was finished she was in no hurry to leave. All in all the best sauna experience I have had in Beijing. The total cost for me was 996 RMB. A little high, but I think well worth it.

I will be back, but next time I will ask to go to the room where the girls are to choose one rather than looking at them one by one.

Sammy

Alex Rock
12-11-06, 15:11
The issue now is after getting "hooked" up with them and bored after sometime thru your experiences. What is the best way to "let go" once you have the next more attractive target to go for?

Seem like they will "die" for you or another word, commit suicide if you ask for "divorce". Haha!Hi Pro Hunter! Good luck. Beijing a great place for single males.

After letting girls move in twice, I learned NEVER allow it to happen unless you are serious and never to give a girl a key to your place unless you are ready for it to be permanent. Even if they don’t move in, I've overheard girls on the phone talking about how they try to leave signs of “occupation” or possession such as clothes, make up, hairbrushes, photos and other belongings around a guys place. I'll put their stuff in a plastic bag or box.

Most single women in Beijing these days are OK with guys who just want to date, but if it comes to break-ups with clingy types, I now tell girls I need space and time as a single. It’s my problem not theirs and make a date for 10 days later on a Monday night instead of the busy weekend nights. Being burned a couple of time helps but hope you can avoid it happening to you again. Good luck.

Intransit
12-11-06, 16:07
Brothers,

The integrity of the Brotherhood is always under threat, and we need to maintain proper vigilance.

Case in point: a good friend of mine was just in town, his third or fourth trip in a year. He's now a Maggie's fan and has a regular girl there.

Saturday, I'm online with one of my messengers turned on. He had departed several hours before. I see his ID come on. A window pops up, I think it's him.

Luckily for me, his wife identified herself first. She asked where he was, was he on his way back to the US? I helped her track down the flight times.

Then she asked: "Is Maggie's something I even want to know about?"

I avoided the question by explaining when he could be expected to land, hoping she would drop the question, and she did.

When he got back to the US, he explained in a text message that she had seen an IM between me and him about Maggie's. He explained it away as trash talk and that he had been to Midnight Mass at St. Margaret's but had not received Communion.

She bought it. He has since swept his computer, etc. He and I also now have an identifciation procedure so that I know it's him when he comes on.

Gentlemen, please, take the some kind of precautions you would regarding contraception. Keep your passwords secret; keep private, monger-related material either off any computer the woman in your life may see or use, or at least password-protect it. Delete your browsing and IM history regularly. If you don't want your IMs saved, make sure that your preferences indicate that. Set your browsing history to save pages for no more than a day at a time. Be careful about using your phone, especially mobile phone, and delete your calls received//calls dialed lists regularly.

We all live secret lives to one extent or another. Let's keep those secrets secret.

SidTheSexist
12-11-06, 22:16
Hi there,
If you think I should have asked something else for FS, gone to another place or climbed the stairs, feel free to tell me.
WUBMGOk Here goes,
First of all, you were obviously in the totally wrong place. I turned up there at 4.30am last weekend with a couple of guys. We went through to the first room on the 1st floor which basically involves kit off, bollock naked, and into the 3ft deep swimming pool / bath. There is also a smaller cold pool and a similar sized "slimey" pool. In the same hall is a sauna which can be as hot or as cold as you want to make it. Skip the BS, we spent an hour in and out of the pools and sauna and then headed upstairs. My guys didnt know what they were doing and although a virgin myself, I still had a pretty good idea due to the reports. So up we went to the 4th floor and were presented with the menu. Not perfect English but it is definately enough to show you the way. They could not accomadate us all in one room despite the menu suggesting a luxiourious suite was on offer. No problem, my friends chose 2 girls each and I settled for one. We all took the the top package which was roughly 850rmb/xiaojie, each, not including the room. Done the deed and ended up back in the sauna hall downstairs for chill out. Eventually finished up at about 9.30am, got dressed and hit the reception counter for a bill in the region of 5000rmb.
Guys, it sounds expensive, but I would definately go back.
Sid

Sebastian My
12-11-06, 23:17
Back to China after few months, and re-visited back to Lufthansa shopping mall. Seem to be a bit more quiet nowadays at that area. Anyone know what happened recently?


The police are very active right now (My impression, other may differ) - this is common in early december but is the worst i have ever seen for at least the last 4 years. I have also noticed security staff are getting very active.
You will find the girls off the beaten track, unfortunatly the beaten track changes so much any advice i can give you may not be applicable on the evening.
It may be a good idea to try the web to hook up, or i have seem a regular "China World Starbucks" mama-sans hanging around the front grand hyatt at 23:00 (bit of a surprise to me) and jiangguomao hotel and wandering around ritan park. Unfortunately i never bother keeping any of the business cards so can't help you with numbers.

Pro Hunter
12-11-06, 23:54
Hi Sebastian,

I also noticed that. They are tightening the security I guess, as part of the preparation of Olympic 2008.

Anyway, I am most interested to find the girl published on my earlier report, rather than hunting around, trying my luck on those mama-san. Maybe one day, I will go back to them but not now I guess.

Appreciate your reply.


The police are very active right now (My impression, other may differ) - this is common in early december but is the worst i have ever seen for at least the last 4 years. I have also noticed security staff are getting very active.
You will find the girls off the beaten track, unfortunatly the beaten track changes so much any advice i can give you may not be applicable on the evening.
It may be a good idea to try the web to hook up, or i have seem a regular "China World Starbucks" mama-sans hanging around the front grand hyatt at 23:00 (bit of a surprise to me) and jiangguomao hotel and wandering around ritan park. Unfortunately i never bother keeping any of the business cards so can't help you with numbers.

Pro Hunter
12-11-06, 23:59
Hi Alex,

Me too. I let the girl move in once as that girl is very understanding. She knows that I have family and she is willing to accept that as long as I look after her, even when I leave China one day.

When my wife came over to China for short stay mid of this year, she "disappeared" but it "confused" the security. Haha.

Now she is back and I am bored. Hehe. May try your "magic trick" and see if it works. Thanks in advance.


Hi Pro Hunter! Good luck. Beijing a great place for single males.

After letting girls move in twice, I learned NEVER allow it to happen unless you are serious and never to give a girl a key to your place unless you are ready for it to be permanent. Even if they don’t move in, I've overheard girls on the phone talking about how they try to leave signs of “occupation” or possession such as clothes, make up, hairbrushes, photos and other belongings around a guys place. I'll put their stuff in a plastic bag or box.

Most single women in Beijing these days are OK with guys who just want to date, but if it comes to break-ups with clingy types, I now tell girls I need space and time as a single. It’s my problem not theirs and make a date for 10 days later on a Monday night instead of the busy weekend nights. Being burned a couple of time helps but hope you can avoid it happening to you again. Good luck.

Sebastian My
12-12-06, 02:26
Can any Beijing regulars tell me what the Beijing scene is like during the May holiday period in the first week of May?

I'm thinking of coming to Beijing for a few days in the first week of May 2007.

Thank you

First week in May is a major holiday period - the week before this holiday is a good time to get good deals as the local girls all try and assemble as much cash as they can for the trip home and for presents - unfortunatly its rather quiet for chinese during the holiday week and the ramp up period the following week - but there should be a supply of local girls (Remember the girls clients also go home for the holidays).
Russians and Mongolians are always available and typically by May all the russians are back from their winter trip back home. Its actually a great time for russians because all their chinese clients are not around either.
Weather wise its a good time of the year but police activity can be high during the holidays - but quiet afterwards. (During chinese New Year Beijing gets filled with non-PRC chinese tourist families who want to visit the mother country - the officials like to keep the seedy aspect off the streets, so the wives and children don't see anything strange - but out of sight its a free for all - which may make it slightly harder to find chinese providers if you are not use to beijing)
My summary is you will still have a good time, but the week before the holidays is better. One advantage is beijing is in a holiday mood - so peak hour is not so bad - the bad news is the place is filled with tourists.
But i have found beijing tends to be so variable its hard to provide hard and fast predictions.

WontYouBeMyGirl
12-12-06, 03:16
Well I was obviously in the wrong place.

May you tell me where to go North of the Red House then? The place I went in was near the beginning of the street. Southwards, there is a restaurant, a shop with cigarettes (big and clean) a barbershop (legit?), a Pizza/Laundry place. I don't remember after that, but 30 meters farther you are number 21 so I guess too far.

Could you post the name of the place in chinese writing as well? It could help me to find.

Cheers all mongers

WUBMG


Ok Here goes,
First of all, you were obviously in the totally wrong place. I turned up there at 4.30am last weekend with a couple of guys. We went through to the first room on the 1st floor which basically involves kit off, bollock naked, and into the 3ft deep swimming pool / bath. There is also a smaller cold pool and a similar sized "slimey" pool. In the same hall is a sauna which can be as hot or as cold as you want to make it. Skip the BS, we spent an hour in and out of the pools and sauna and then headed upstairs. My guys didnt know what they were doing and although a virgin myself, I still had a pretty good idea due to the reports. So up we went to the 4th floor and were presented with the menu. Not perfect English but it is definately enough to show you the way. They could not accomadate us all in one room despite the menu suggesting a luxiourious suite was on offer. No problem, my friends chose 2 girls each and I settled for one. We all took the the top package which was roughly 850rmb/xiaojie, each, not including the room. Done the deed and ended up back in the sauna hall downstairs for chill out. Eventually finished up at about 9.30am, got dressed and hit the reception counter for a bill in the region of 5000rmb.
Guys, it sounds expensive, but I would definately go back.

Sid

Iseeu
12-12-06, 09:49
Well I was obviously in the wrong place.

May you tell me where to go North of the Red House then? The place I went in was near the beginning of the street. Southwards, there is a restaurant, a shop with cigarettes (big and clean) a barbershop (legit?), a Pizza/Laundry place. I don't remember after that, but 30 meters farther you are number 21 so I guess too far.

Could you post the name of the place in chinese writing as well? It could help me to find.

Cheers all mongers

WUBMG
See my post http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=939&highlight=iseeu

There is english writing over the entrance, and if you scroll down the board there are very exact directions on how to find it on that street.

Njoy

Iseeu
12-12-06, 09:53
Eventually finished up at about 9.30am, got dressed and hit the reception counter for a bill in the region of 5000rmb.
Guys, it sounds expensive, but I would definately go back.
Sid

Compared to some of the smaller cities and So. China, it's expensive, but
3 guys taking 5 girls to private rooms and enjoying all of the great facilities, sounds like a great price to me for what may be the best service in BJ.

SidTheSexist
12-12-06, 23:18
Compared to some of the smaller cities and So. China, it's expensive, but
3 guys taking 5 girls to private rooms and enjoying all of the great facilities, sounds like a great price to me for what may be the best service in BJ.Actually, I wanted my post to sound encouraging because I do beleive the place is spot on. However, I must confess that the particular girl I ended up choosing either was on her first night, or had never been with a foreigner. She attempted CBJ which I hastily remedied and then she proceeded to give me the worst experience of fire & ice, ever!!!!! We then moved into FS and being the affecionate monger that I am, I recognised her inexperience and took things slow. Condoms were doing nothing for me and by the end of the session I think we burst about 5! Really! Although each time was accidental on my part, it was more to do with her not wanting anything whatsoever to do with my schlong. After 30 mins or so of unsuccessful, missionary, pumping; she began to cry! I was distraught. I immediately lost my hard on at the thought of this innocent girl going through so much anguish. I allowed her the privelage of simply wanking me off and what a shit job she made of that too. Time came and I hadn't even shot my whack. My girl was mortified with the thought of me telling Papa however I reassured her not to worry. I simply put it down to one of those times you lose and went back down to the sauna hall to chill out and share experiences with my accomplices. As I suspected, I had simply chose the wrong one out of a bunch of good ones.
I will return!
Sid

Alex Rock
12-13-06, 10:56
For us Beijing mongers, this is a routine and doesn't change much.

Article as it appeared today:::::Anti-vice drive targets prostitutes's haunts By Li Fangchao (China Daily) 2006-12-13 06:55

The sight of prostitutes beckoning clients on the street or from windows has become rare in Beijing, with police saying the "profession" has been "basically stamped out" in the capital city. More than 140 procuresses and pimps and nearly 400 prostitutes have been rounded up since September under an anti-vice campaign, said He Angang, deputy commissar of the Social Administration General Force of the Beijing Municipal Public Security Bureau.

More than 400 beauty salons, car washes and bathhouses that offer sex services were caught up in the crackdown, he said. He made these comments at an annual meeting yesterday to summarize the police's work over the past year. He said the social order at 32 "key places" where prostitutes cluster is "much better." "The rampant prostitution in these 32 areas has been effectively curbed; a much better social order is in place now," Most of the 32 places are located in Chaoyang, Haidian and Tongzhou districts. He said a special campaign aimed at people who send unsolicited phone messages and emails containing information about sex services had also achieved good results. He said 23 gangs had been uncovered and 107 people arrested. "We can say such messages are already wiped out in Beijing," He said.

A separate campaign aimed at eliminating crime and drugs from the city's entertainment venues had netted 24 gangs. The campaign shut down 19 venues involved in drug use or sales and another 27 that staged sexually explicit shows or allowed gambling. All the city's 34 discos have installed portable safety inspection equipment to screen for flammable and explosive substances. More than 95 per cent of the city's 950 entertainment venues have installed surveillance cameras, which will gradually be connected to the bureau's network, He said.

In another development, Li Yinhua, office director of the Social Administration General Force, said local police will launch a series of campaigns to purge elements that might negatively affect social order next year to prepare for the Olympic in Games in 2008. Police will hold dozens of deployment rehearsals next year to prepare for the Games, Li said. Most of the rehearsals will be slated for the latter half of the year, and a simulation will take place in August to coincide with the time and weather when the Games are scheduled in 2008, Li said.

"We will put the measures we have prepared for the Olympic Games into substantial operation next year," Li said, "That is why we hope to create a sound social environment before the Games to relieve the mountain of work when they come." In October, the bureau announced the establishment of a 1,200-man plainclothes team that was reported to have been put into use during the China-Africa Co-operation Forum in November. "We tested deploying plainclothes officers during a series of major events this year. It is a good way to practise for the security work of the games," Li said.

Albert Punter
12-13-06, 15:21
Attached 2 more business cards for popular places.

Credit goes to Alex, I think, who posted them some time ago.

Irv Washington
12-13-06, 18:22
To Sebastian My - Thank you very much for your reply to my post. It's very helpful.

Any information from other posters on the Beijing scene in the first week of May (a National Holiday period) will be most welcome!!

Of course, when I come to Beijing I will report back on my experiences to share information for everone's benefit.


First week in May is a major holiday period - the week before this holiday is a good time to get good deals as the local girls all try and assemble as much cash as they can for the trip home and for presents - unfortunatly its rather quiet for chinese during the holiday week and the ramp up period the following week - but there should be a supply of local girls (Remember the girls clients also go home for the holidays).

Russians and Mongolians are always available and typically by May all the russians are back from their winter trip back home. Its actually a great time for russians because all their chinese clients are not around either.

Weather wise its a good time of the year but police activity can be high during the holidays - but quiet afterwards.

My summary is you will still have a good time, but the week before the holidays is better. One advantage is beijing is in a holiday mood - so peak hour is not so bad - the bad news is the place is filled with tourists.

But i have found beijing tends to be so variable its hard to provide hard and fast predictions.[QUOTE=Irv Washington]Can any Beijing regulars tell me what the Beijing scene is like during the May holiday period in the first week of May?

I'm thinking of coming to Beijing for a few days in the first week of May 2007.

I understand that this is a "holiday week / period" all over China including in Beijing.

Sebastian My
12-14-06, 04:17
For us Beijing mongers, this is a routine and doesn't change much.

Article as it appeared today:::::Anti-vice drive targets prostitutes's haunts By Li Fangchao (China Daily) 2006-12-13 06:55



I agree this is normal, but more intense this year. They caught one of the 5 Russian hotties in Hollywood last week. (There is always a small group of very attractive and scantly dressed Uzbek girls who stand around the south side of the bar wriggling their bottoms around in a rather pleasant manner - who always gets good business from the locals).

In this case they followed the girl and her Chinese client back to her apartment and after a short while burst in and arrested her. The week before this they raided Hollywood again and closed the place down for a day. This happened last year (and i was caught in the raid) but they have not tried the “follow the girl and client back to their place” routine for several years. (This use to be common 4-5 years ago).

Again, the main focus seems to be on local's doing these naughty things - laowai with laowai does not get the same focus - but its a disturbing trend.

So far the hotels are ok - i suspect as long as the hotels keep the mama-san's, touts and SW's away - the police will leave them alone.

But all my Chinese ad-hoc providers have stopped going to bars and gone back to their day jobs (But of course if you have their numbers they will quickly appear at your hotel - although they do look nervous.) This means you will have to make a bit more effort in finding a new Chinese experience.

If last year is any guide this will continue until Xmas – and of course things are so quiet between Xmas and New Year i normally go back to merry old England if my boss allows it.

On the other hand i totally support the attempts on closing down gangs - as most of these guys are associated with the touts who cause us all so much grief. But i feel sorry for the poor girls only trying to earn some money - and who do not hurt anyone (of course they normally leave your old fellow looking a bit red and worn, but i feel this is an acceptable sacrifice).

Alex Rock
12-15-06, 18:28
During the holidays many out of town girls go home but you can still find girls at all the usual haunts. Mongol and Russian girls will still be in in abundance at the Pig, Maggie's, Den, Absenta and Hollywood. Chinese girls will be in abundance in the dozen's (hundreds) of KTV's, Passion (expensive), Liangma KTV, ( mid range) MP's and BBS's. High class outcall escorts are always available but their prices are high.

For freebie's and "one night stands" RTFF. Beijing is a single male paradise.

The crackdown's always go for 1-2 weeks then stop before the holidays. During the holiday periods the police are on holiday too, so it's a very safe time.

I have a few police buddies, they raid a place - to fill a quota then they take you there for fun - no big deal. During the holidays you will find out where the action is very quickly. Suggest you cover the spectrum on day 1 and see the lay of the land when you touch down. Be careful though 8 pm, 10 pm and 12 midnight the places can be very different.

Hello2003
12-16-06, 03:57
The first night I got here was very foggy. After checking into my place, I took a walk down Liang Ma Qiao Road to go to a small grocery store. There are some Korean massage places down this road. Two girls were hanging out, very ugly. They started giving me the "Hello Sir" treatment, but after 18 hours in airports, I just wanted to get a couple of things and try to sleep, so I brush them off. On my way back, the girls are gone. This was around 11:00 PM.

After arriving I realized I forget to bring two important items. The power cord for my laptop and the battery for my digital camera. My personal laptop is an Apple. So that killed a day looking for a suitable replacement. I had no luck finding power at Bai Nao Hui (which is a four-story electronics place where you can bargain for deals on various items), but got a replacement battery for the camera. Then finally found out where there is an official Apple shop in Soho and bought a new power supply. Picked up a SIM card at one of the newspaper stands, then sent out text messages to my arsenal of past and possible future freebie friends. Sifted through the text message responses, took phone calls and chose the hottest one from the bunch, I'd never had. So I spent the next two jet-lagged days with my freebie. I finally got her to leave yesterday.

Went to the formerly infamous Passion's disco. I have never been there before. Last year, when I was in Beijing for six months, I went to check it out and it was still being remodeled. I told the people at the entrance I just wanted to have a look, so they walked me through. Immediately approached by two girls - one was very attractive, the other not so attractive. After my walkthrough, I decided to at least stay and have a drink so I gave them their entrance fee of 100RMB, which includes a free drink coupon (mineral water or a beer).

This was around 11:30PM. The place was pretty empty, but the atmosphere isn't all that bad. Maybe a half dozen Chinese guys, and only three westerners, including myself. Sat at the bar and ordered my beer and the hot one came up to me immediately. I told her in Chinese that right now I don't want to talk to anyone and she slunk away. Passions also has a KTV in it. Upstairs from the bar. Apparently there is a lot of action going on up there because many girls were coming down the stairs, none of great quality, and they would gather together in small groups near the dance floor. Lots of security guys in here keeping a steady eye on things..

About 15 minutes later, I was having a good look at the hot one who was seated across the bar from me when a stunner sits down next to me. I believe the number on her wrist was 172. I would rate her a 9/10, along the lines of the quality I choose with freebies. We talk for a little bit and she asks me "How do you know about this place?" I lied and told her I was staying at the Great Wall Sheraton and was just checking it out, and I would be moving to a serviced apartment next week. She asks me the usual questions they all ask, how long are you here, what do you do, etc. and she tells me this is the famous Passions where you can get the most beautiful women in China. I laughed at that one.

She told me I could have her for 2500 RMB. I laughed at that one too, and showed her all of my text messages from freebie girls on my phone. I told her why should I pay you 2500 RMB when I have all these girls who I can have for free? She said "okay, okay" and dropped her price to 2000 RMB. Again, more negotiating. The bartenders are listening to me talk her down and smiling. Bought the girl a Heineken, beers are 50 kuai here. She said it would not be a problem to go with her to my room at the Great Wall Sheraton. I found this to be an interesting bit of info, because during the times I actually have stayed at the Great Wall Sheraton, I didn't feel comfortable getting a girl to my room late a night with all the security in the past.

There wasn't any other good looking girls there compared to this one, so I told her I had just arrived and was very tired from the plane ride, so I wouldn't be any good. There are semi-private booths next to the dance floor so we moved there to talk some more. I had her put her phone number into my mobile and gave her a call to confirm the digits. Then I told her I would like to see her tomorrow, but only for one hour, and since she was so beautiful I would give her 800. She laughed at me and we settled for 1200, and I would call her during the daytime to do the deed. I told her I was looking for someone to have as a regular while I am here, and she seemed pleased with that. I also told her straight up I would be wanting to take photographs, and she didn't flinch at all. She was giving me the GFE, sitting in the booth pressing her body against me and rubbing my leg, etc. I started to really want to do this girl, so I figured I better go.

I told her I needed to go rest, and before allowing her to ask, I gave her 200RMB as a tip. I know these girls would have asked for a tip if I didn't take them, and I didn't want to go though negotiating that, so I just gave her the 200RMB and she took it without saying anything else. I told her she was free to go find another customer, but she said she would not leave me until I left. Anyway, there wasn't really anbody in the place, so she stuck tight to me. So I left and she walked me out. Definitely hot, and I am considering calling her, but the price is steep and there are others to be had.

The mamasans are out in the parking lot between the Landmark and the Great Wall Sheraton. When approached I asked to see what she had. She brings two girls out of a black car. She wants 600 RMB. I said I would only give her 300 for one of these girls. She said no. I told her I was late to meet my friends and would maybe come back later. As I walked away she was yelling, "OK. 300".

Into the Hard Rock Cafe. Some ugly Russians in a group, about 6 of them, with their one Russian guy - I always see Russian girls with a lone Russian guy for some kind of support. Same old Chinese girls. Saw one I was interested in who was doing some sexy dancing, but in front of another guy. Then I saw one whose friend I used to do sometimes. She told me my "friend" had gotten married to a German man, no longer is working, and then she proceeded to tell me how many times I had been in the HRC, which girls I had left with, the one time I left with two girls, how much I paid them, how I treated them. I was amazed at her memory, since I have only used the HRC maybe 4 times out of the past 4 years. Seeing there is no real talent at the HRC this evening, and this girl I already know (and she apparently knows everything about me), I tell her I am thinking of going to Maggie's and she says "let's go to the Den". I agree. Onto the Den.

Arrived at the Den around 1:00AM. I've been to the Den only once before. Never went upstairs to the disco. We order a pizza and a drink and the girl I am with proceeds to tell me everything about all the girls working here this evening. It was quite amusing actually to have her tell me which girls are good, and not so good. Her little stories about some of them. There is one really hot, young Mongolian girl here. I tease the girl I am with and tell her to go get her for me, and she tells me to go get her myself. I was getting tired, and I am appreciating having a working ally so I decide to spend the night with the one I am with (about 6.5/10). But I made a mental note to keep my eyes open for the Mongolian girl at another time. We go back to my place near the Lufthansa, do the deed, and she then massages me until I fall asleep. In the morning I tell her it's time for her to go. I looked in my wallet and I only had 500RMB in cash. She said that was fine. She then presented me with some sort of knitted scarf thing. I tried to refuse, but she said I should give it to my mother as a Christmas present. I accepted.

So I'm sitting here in my room, thinking that one girl from Passion's was quite hot, and weighing the cost/benefit ratio of giving her a call later today.

I turned my mobile back on and see 18 missed phone calls from the freebie I chose and ten text messages asking where I am, telling me she wants to see me. Plus a few other messages from the freebies I didn't hook up with yet.
Welcome back to Beijng, I think.

Tonight I will check out the SW scene around the Lufthansa, then probably go to the Pig, and depending on how I feel and the action there, to Maggies.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Et888
12-16-06, 04:52
Hi All,

Landed Beijing last week for Conference.Got contact from my friend for local FL supply. Call the lady, after few minuts of negotiation she quote me local for RMB300 ST and Russian for RMB800 ST. Took the Russian for first day and local the next day. Is this price reasonable?

Hello2003
12-16-06, 06:12
Which is the best thread to post about freebie experiences? Are we supposed to discuss this in the Women and advice forum? Or can I write about freebie experiences anywhere?

BTW, Alex Rock, I agree with many of your observations on the scene here regarding non-working women. It really is a a thriving singles scene with many beautiful, educated, and career oriented women, yet at the same time it can be very stressful. I try to be very honest with freebies, but it inevitabley turns into a situation where they want me to be with them literally 24/7.

Alex Rock
12-16-06, 10:37
You've landed running - great report again! Beijing's a great place for single guys.

A new saying going around among single women shows the change in attitudes - that there are 3 "don't"s of good guys (Hao Nanren "san bu").
I.e.
1. Good guys don't touch girls first! ("Bu zhudong peng nuren")
2. When a girl comes on to him, he doesn't refuse.! ("Laizhe buju")
3. He doesn't take responsibility! ("Bu fuze")

No 3. reflects modern women don't want guys to feel obligated or responsible if they have sex. Previously the tradition was that if a guy had sex with a girl, he had to "fuze" (be responsible). Trendy singles don't want this anymore.

After a few years of singledom, with a couple of serious hiccups on the way, I'm contemplating settling down and slowing down. If I was to give my advice to any guy, (not that I'm particularly qualified) it would be to avoid getting hitched to one girl when there's such a great selection around. Clingy types or those too eager to hitch up can easily be kept at arms length if you define the parameters early.

Look forward to more of your reports

Alex Rock
12-16-06, 10:53
Passion's not what it used to be now it's re-opened under new management, but it still has some hot women. Some of the top regulars from before are not allowed in by the new management and some of the girls who had been banned before (for fighting other girls over customers or over aggressively demanding tips) are now back working there.

A couple of regulars tell me the asking prices have come down from what they were. Those that worked in Daimond Age for a while saw their monthly revenues fall considerably. Now, the average girl there can make about 50K a month and has expenses of 20K. So the maths are simple, they want about 1000 a day to feel they're even and they prefer regular clients over one timers because their competitive stress is less.

The most glamorous girls are working call girl services and don't hang around any one place.

Maybe the place will recover it's past glory over time. It certainly was the best place to entertain groups of guys and in my opinion nowhere else has come near it.

Hello2003
12-16-06, 13:37
Hi everyone,


Passion's not what it used to be now it's re-opened under new management, but it still has some hot women. Some of the top regulars from before are not allowed in by the new management and some of the girls who had been banned before (for fighting other girls over customers or over aggressively demanding tips) are now back working there.

A couple of regulars tell me the asking prices have come down from what they were.

Maybe the place will recover it's past glory over time. It certainly was the best place to entertain groups of guys and in my opinion nowhere else has come near it.I don't have the experience with Passion's that you guys have since I never went there under the old management and was only my first time there under the new, but I just finished an afternoon session with one of the girls there.

It was extremely great service. I text messaged the girl I spoke about in my previous report, picked her up at an arranged meeting place. We traded a few text messages and arranged to meet. Went to my place via taxi. We talked, I took a bunch of photos of her. She started kissing me, at first I was hesitant to kiss, but then after she started pulling on my lip, okay, I relaxed and enjoyed making out with her. We both had just showered before the meeting, so then it was straight to the bedroom. A great body naked, nice personality, and she did everything I wanted.

I was a little disappointed that she wouldn't give BJ without a condom, but overall I was very pleased and I gave her 1800 at the end of the 2.5 hour session (we agreed on 1200 earlier, she started at 2500).

She told me she would be happy to see me again if I wanted to, and she even suggested I go and pick other girls from the bar because there are so many beautiful ones there (although she was the hottest one I saw according to my tastes, tall, thin with perky breasts, tight stomach, and a nice small round butt). And she smelled really good. The double door closet next to my bed has a full mirror and looking over at us was kind of a turn on. It was in fact one of the nicest pay for sex sessions I have had. When she was getting ready to leave, it felt like I had known her for a long time, felt like I was with my tai tai and seeing her off to work or something. I'll consider posting a pic of her. Although she allowed me to take photos of her, she didn't give me exclusive permission to share them, so I will consider the ethics of that after I load them onto my computer.

I like the attitude of the girls when they say go and sample other goods. Although, I would be perfectly happy to just call this one every now and then, she made it clear I should go back and try the other girls.

Anyway, it was great. Now it is 8:30 PM and I will go to the Pig to see what's going on there. Sunday is reserved for meeting some new freebies. I have a lunch date tomorrow with one, followed by dinner with another.

So tonight it's the Pig, Maggie's and Absentia. If I make it past the Pig, that is.

Happy trails!

Tallguy2004
12-16-06, 15:23
I am considering using VIPLily. Their pix of the soccer match are incredible! Is this a rip-off, or the real deal? Any feedback will be appreciated.

Travelin Guy
12-17-06, 05:10
Referring back to the theme of girl-friendly places to stay in Beijing, I can now add the Jing Guang New World Centre serviced apartments to the list. Location is along the 3rd Ring ROad and its about equidistant to the HRC, The Den, and Maggies.

These apartments are located in the back tower on floors 41-52, and while they are a little smaller and less elegantly furnished than those at The Ascott, the price is much more reasonable too at about 760RMB per night inclusive of service charge and a nice breakfast buffet. You enter through a separate secured doorway to reach the elevators, but the security staff barely looked up from their newspaper as I escorted various conquests from the bars home with me at all hours of the night. The apartments come with a small living area, TV, sofa, and kitchenette with a hot plate, frig, & microwave. Glassware is available in the cupboards, but no silverware or cookware, so I'm not sure if its available by request from housekeeping or not. Bathroom & bedroom are on the quality level of a 4-star hotel, no glass enclosed showers like The Ascott. The full length mirrored wall beside the kitchen table provided a few memorable moments.

On a side note, has anybody else noticed a trend with the Mongolian girls at Maggies keeping themselves shaved? Of the 5 or so Mongolians I've brought home from Maggies/The Den over the past couple of weeks, 2 of them (and probably the 2 best looking of them) were both completely shaved. What a wonderful surprise for this oral enthusiast!

Intransit
12-17-06, 18:49
Look at the reports from members on this page who have fewer than 100 posts. All of them offer us something--an observation, some information, a reasonable question. For you newer members, thank you for being responsible members of this community. For those of us that Midea referred to as "Big Pashas," let's support these guys and help them find their own way.

Notes from Intransit: it has been an amazing week or so in the life of Intransit. A protracted streak of voluntary celibacy ended just over a week ago, with a woman for whom Intransit cares for deeply, whose nom de guerre was once the buzz of this board. We had terrific sex after not having seen each other for months, and it was amazing to be with a woman again after so long.

On Friday Intransit had a long awaited sexual reunion with the one known as Central Asian Girl. She is as beautiful, loving, passionate, and warm as she always was, and true to form, insisted on taking his full load in her mouth and wouldn't take no for an answer. There's just something about making love with a Mongolian woman that is not the same as with a Chinese woman.

Intransit and a friend from Shanghai hit it hard Thursday and Friday. Learned a few things in the process. There are way more pros at Centro than previously imagined or realized. We particularly enjoyed watching an older pro, clearly in her thirties, who fawned all over her 50-something client, clinking wine glasses with him repeatedly, stroking his face, and then locked eyes with us again and again, as if she were showing us a "Your Cock Here" sign. Also saw three of the Maggie's old-timers there around 10, including the girl with sunglasses and the great bod that everyone who has been to Mag's more than once has seen.

Midnight Mass at St. Margaret's last Thursday and Friday was hilarious both nights, for different reasons. Lots of girls early, at 11:30 both nights. SH Friend and Intransit took up a position in the middle of the bar. SH Friend was approached by Coco, who Mag's regulars know is an Alpha hottie, except maybe for the bouffant hairdo. SH had done her friend a couple of weeks earlier, so she recognized him. What Intransit enjoyed the most was the reaction of the guys around us when she approached him and started talking with him. "Who the fuck is this guy?" said the faces of the two guys behind us. She talked with us and introduced us to a couple of her friends, and we also interacted with quite a few girls who walked past us. Finally the two dudes behind us finished their beers and left, not having said hi to a single woman in the place.

Friday night, we returned, with SH in two minds about making a purchase. We had been out at legit venues earlier, and were dressed as such. Intransit got a phone number whereas SH ended up with the wrong end of a two-girl set.

We were approached by a semi-hottie that Intransit has seen before, and she through some serious game at him. Still satiated from CAG, there was no burning urge to take her home, and it didn't happen. It's nice to be able to tell a woman to stop touching your dick.

For those of you who haven't heard of it or read it, Intransit highly recommends "The Game" by Neil Strauss. More than anything, it is a fascinating portrayal of a subculture, and it reminded Intransit very much of the ISG community. The book covers Strauss's adventures as a seduction/pick-up guru. Even if you couldn't care less about the various techniques explained in the book (although we could probably all learn something from it), the portrayal of this group of men that comes together with a single purpose, very much as we have here, is great reading. A good plane book for anyone making a trans-continental or trans-Pacific flight over the holidays.

And a final suggestion from Intransit, for those of you who are indeed leaving beloved Beijing for the hols: get your stocking stuffed before you go. This is a hard and fast Intransit rule when traveling to places where puss is not readily available. A good fa la la la lay before a week or so of family commitments and holiday cheer goes a long way.

For those of you remaining behind, Intransit has every intention of spending Christmas Eve at Midnight Mass at St. Margaret's Cathedral. God Bless Us, Every One!

Hello2003
12-17-06, 20:16
Sunday, went on my interviews with regular girls I want to hook up with long term. I am close to picking my long term freebie. In my job, and in my life I do want a normal girl to be with. I'm close to making my selection, but that means no more mongering for the rest of the time I am here. When I choose a non-working girl, I will stay dedicated to her.

Anyway, at the Pig tonight it was pretty wild. A lot more guys than girls. And only a few who met my standards. I was talking to one who seemed like an old pro, tall and kinda pretty, but I waited until the drunk guy who was talking to her went to pass out or go wherever he was going. This girl had a pretty nice body, her boobs almost hanging out, and she came to me but I just didn't get the best vibe from her so I bought her drinks and just acted friendly towards her. She found a guy finally near closing time.

There also was a very cute and bubbly Chinese girl there who I called over who I will chase again next time I am there. She was taken for the night, playing darts and dancing around, very energetic. I got her number, then let her go back to the guy she was hanging out with.

I don't like to drink much when I monger, but ended up talking with a guy and had a couple of drinks. So got pretty buzzed. A beautiful Mongolian girl I called over, and she was very pretty, if you know the ones that go there, she had a piercing just on the right of her lip. Tiny girl, young, nice body, I was all set to go with her.

As I said, I was drinking a bit, so that is when I don't make wise decisions. This Chinese girl came behind me at the bar and kept hammering me with offers. She was cute, but not as cute as the one Mongolian I was chatting up. Near the end of the night the Chinese girl offered me both herself and her friend, who I didn't think was so attractive. But I figured what the heck... and besides I had broken my rule and was drinking so I just went with the flow.

So there I was having to make my decision, and I let the young Mongolian girl go, and she looked sad as she put out her jacket and got ready to leave.

The Chinese girls who were bugging me I finally agreed on. They had their own car and drove me back to my place. We argued over the cost for quite some time. I insisted on 800 for both of them. I told the one I was interested in her, that is why I went with her and if she wanted her friend to come with us, that was her problem.

Anyway, got back to my place and they asked for an additional 200 kuai for both. Finally I said okay and I was given a BBBJ by both of them. It was incredible, they totally know what they are doing, as if they worked in a pair often and it was like watching porno movies. One on my balls the other sucking. Then I'd ask them to switch. The one I didn't want turned out to be a great head giver. Whenever they switched, one of them would run to the bathroom to run hot water over a washcloth and then come back and rub me off with it before switching. The uglier girl turned out to be a real pro at giving head, and one time she thought I came and ran to the bathroom and starting hacking, making all this noise. I asked the other what is up with that? and she said you came. I said I did not come, and we started laughing.
This whole sucking thing went on for about a hour, and I was fighting my urge to come because it was seriously one of the best blowjobs I ever had, and when compounded with two girls doing it to me, with me directing them to switch, or now lick, and one time I had to stop because the one was sucking my balls so hard they shot up into my stomach.

Anyway, after about 90 minutes they said I should have come and then wanted more money. I said no more money, then literally held the one girl's head over my didi and worked it until I came. Afterwards, lying in bed while the other girl showered, I told the one girl I chose her and she was who I should be with, and I originally wanted FS, but the double BJ thing was just too damn enjoyable so I went with it. She made a big deal about going out to move her car so she could spend the night, and her friend was pissed because she didn't get paid equally. I explained to both of them this was not my fault, and stressed to the one girl that she was the one that insisted on bring the tagalong.

The girl wanted to spend the night after she drove her friend home and I said no, call me tomorrow.

It was a very good experience but not how I usually handle myself, because I was drinking. Total damage 800 + 200 and had to end the evening telling the one who got 200 that I thought she was the best and I wished I had made the original deal with her instead of the other.

They left my apartment telling me how tired they were and asking to see me tomorrow.

Beijing is surreal. I love it.

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Sir Henry
12-17-06, 23:11
Hi, guys,

Thanks a lot for all these informations on this site. I am a really newbee in China and I will arrive at the 29. Dec. For 3 weeks. Later in the year I will stay for maybe 1 or 2 years in beijing but now I want to check the place and learn a little bit about the country and the people.

For that I hope to get in touch (private messages) with some experienced guys to make a appoinment for a beer or two.

Especially on New years eve I don't want to stay alone in a foreign city.

In the moment iam checking apartments or hotels near tiananmen square.

Maybe you can recomment me some god adresses.

Thanks a lot.

Hope to meet some of you soon.

LG

Bad Boy Billy
12-18-06, 06:45
Billy will be in Beijing Jan 9 and 10 if Intransit and Sammy will be about.

Look forward to seeing you guys if you are about.

Sammy_T
12-18-06, 11:36
a beautiful mongolian girl i called over, and she was very pretty, if you know the ones that go there, she had a piercing just on the right of her lip. tiny girl, young, nice body, i was all set to go with her.
she is currently one of my favorites. no tits at all, but very gfe. pm me if you want her number to arraign a hookup. treat her right!
the one i didn't want turned out to be a great head giver. the 2 girls you went with are long time regulars at the pig. both nice girls, but they can certainly apply the pressure when it comes to money. while i have never experienced it myself (yet!) the less attractive one is rumored to give the best blow-job in all of beijing. i often hire these 2 girls out for american friends when they come to town. while i prefer the mongolian girls, some guys like to eat chinese when in china, and their 2 on 1 action is a thing to behold. again, i have their phone numbers and will be happy to pm them to senior members.

sammy has been very busy entertaining chinese customers as of late, so this has included several trips to saunas and ktv's. i have paid a couple more visits to the chun xiu lu sauna, and each experience was fantastic. it always ran around 1000 rmb per person, but as i have always said in the past: "you get what you pay for". i also visited another sauna in the lido area. i do not remember the name, but it is at the south-west intersection of airport expressway (the da shen zi exit) and jiu xian qiao lu. it is within walking distance of the lido on a nice day, but certainly not this time of year! i have attached a map. if the chun xiu lu sauna has 4 star quality facilities, then this one is only 3 star. anyone who has stayed in the smaller chinese hotels outside beijing will not have a problem with this sauna. on the plus side, the sauna portion of the establishment is much larger than chun xiu lu sauna, with a larger sauna room and several hot and cold pools. after the sauna you can go upstairs to the 3rd or 4th floor for a massage. they have small rooms with full size beds (50 rmb / hr), or a vip room (60 rmb / hr). the vip room has a sitting area with majiang table, private bathroom, and a private bedroom with a locking door. the only strange thing is that all of the larger vip rooms have 2 single beds in them - none have a full size bed like the standard rooms. the first time i visited this sauna i got the vip room. as i was not sure what to expect i ended up getting the 60 minute massage plus happy ending for 400 rmb. the girl was very nice and even took her top off for me. she was young, and had very large, soft, natural breasts. the price was a little high for a hand-job, but not a bad experience. the 2nd time i visited i was taken to a standard room. i figured since i would probably only get a hand-job i would just stick with the smaller room. i chose a different girl who was again pleasant, but this time she would not take off her top. the door to the room had a small window, and several times during the massage she would look up at the door like she felt someone might "catch" us. so much for the standard room. the last time i visited this sauna i decided on the vip room again. i choose the same girl as my 1st time, but this time she offered me the whole package for 400 rmb. this was on top of the typical sauna and room rate. i think what it worked out to was 2, 60 minute sessions. all said and done it cost around 600 rmb. not a bad way to spend an afternoon.

i have also been frequenting a ktv in the lido area. i cannot find their business card, but will get another and post a scan of it soon. this ktv is about as wild as they come in beijing. when they presented us with the line-up of girls there must have literally been over 100. any shape or size you might want is available. after you choose the girl they will do just about anything with you. they get naked and do striptease dances on the tables, play ktv games, as well as rub all over you. for those who are not familiar with ktv games, i am not simply talking about the dice game. an example would be "golf" where the girl is on her back with her top off and put a grape between her breasts. the man then must "golf" the grape down to her navel using either his tongue or dick. there are all kinds of other games that are similar, each involving some type of pseudo sex act. basically anything goes but penetration. the tip for the girls was 300 rmb each. around 1 am we were able to take the girls out with us to another bar and continue drinking. while i did not take my girl home with me, a friend did. he was chinese and said he paid her an additional 300 rmb to stay the night with him. not sure if a westerner could get such a deal, but regardless it still is a very fun place!

on a different topic, there is half-mongolian, half-russian girl that has been a regular at the pig for many years. she is a large girl, but has a large chest to match. my friends and i often refer to her as "the big ugly". the other night it was late and i was chatting with another westerner about the girls in the bar. he could talk the talk, and had been around for a while. now, i could tell he had had several beers at that point, but i must admit i was shocked when he pointed at "the big ugly" and said he thought she was the sexiest girl in the place. i can only assume that the big tits are what keeps her in business. i bring up this story just to point out that it is pointless to say things like "you pay too much for ugly girls". what is ugly to you might be a beauty to me. at the same time, as we see above, one unattractive chinese girl just happens to give the best head in beijing. i believe it is much better to use attitude and performance as our yard stick. when i pay $100us for a girl she is always physically attractive to me, but also knows i expect her to stay all night, and that we will have multiple encounters during that time period. if it is anything less than gfe i will chalk it up to experience and never go with her again, or recommend her to my friends.

i guess i need to expand my mantra of "you get what you pay for" to "you get what you give". it is not all just about money. if you treat the girls like crap and then pay them like crap you are going to get a crappy experience. if you pay the girls well, but still treat her like crap you will get a so-so experience. to get the best experience pay her "fair", and treat her like a friend. you will receive a much better experience. this is even more important if you are a "regular" at a bar: the girls all talk to each other, and compare notes. if you are an ass, then the girls will not go with you at all, or always request a premium price. if you are a nice guy then it will be smooth sailing with every girl you meet.

i am both happy and sad to hear that intransit has fallen off the wagon. i truly admire his will power to resist the golden horde over the last several months, but totally understand why he succumb. i look forward to our next discussion at maggies.

sammy will be at the pig tonight. no lapel pin, but i'll be the white guy sitting at the bar drinking beer. ha, ha! don't want to tip off the spies as to my true identity :)

Hello2003
12-18-06, 13:21
Hey all,


She is currently one of my favorites. No tits at all, but very GFE. Sammy, this indeed sounds like the girl I am talking about, she doesn't have a chest but very sensual looking. The piercing next to the lip, also has a belly ring fake diamond thing going on. Wears jeans and a white blouse.

Funny you know those two I went with. Cute one has nice face, really good talker, keeps pounding you until you surrender. The uglier one has a wrinkly belly but was really good on the head. Also has a piercing on the lower part of her tit, not through the nipple. If that is them, as you think, then spot on. I agree with your assessment.

Great report, hope to meet you sometime. I will be going to the Pig again tonight also. You probably won't see this in time as Jackson is probably sleeping and I am not a senior member, but I will be there also. Have a great night. No lapel pin for me either but I will be dressed casually and I have very blue eyes. If you see me, you will know me.

I want to play that golf game sometime! Haha.

Most saunas I have been to have been with ex-gfs for legit massage. I also believe in getting what you pay for and I am not shy with dipping into the wallet. The one you describe sounds good.

Intransit
12-18-06, 15:40
In the world of ISG, no Brother is more sibling-like to Intransit than Sammy_T. Sammy, thank you for your kind sentiments. But I must clarify one point: I did not fall off The Wagon. I called to the driver, instructed him to pull over, waited for The Wagon to come to a complete stop, and then calmly stepped off.

Riding The Wagon is a noble journey until, like so many a Beijing taxi ride, you realize that The Wagon is not going where you intended it to go. At that point, there is no need to hurl oneself from The Wagon onto the pavement; nay, one must simply realize that there is more than one means of conveyance to reach one's destination, and at that point call The Wagon to a halt. Our mistake as men is that usually we wait until The Wagon reaches the Shangri-La to get out, when our true destination was the China World, or perhaps more accurately, Maggie's.

Each man's journey is different, even if our destination is the same: a place that plays great music, serves fine hot dogs, and throbs with hot Mongolian women.

Sniffer
12-18-06, 18:41
I also visited another sauna in the Lido area. I do not remember the name, but it is at the south-west intersection of Airport Expressway (the da shen zi exit) and jiu xian qiao lu. It is within walking distance of the Lido on a nice day, but certainly not this time of year! I have attached a map. If the Chun Xiu Lu Sauna has 4 star quality facilities, then this one is only 3 star. Anyone who has stayed in the smaller Chinese hotels outside Beijing will not have a problem with this sauna. On the plus side, the sauna portion of the establishment is much larger than Chun Xiu Lu sauna, with a larger sauna room and several hot and cold pools. After the sauna you can go upstairs to the 3rd or 4th floor for a massage. They have small rooms with full size beds (50 RMB / hr), or a VIP room (60 RMB / hr). The VIP room has a sitting area with majiang table, private bathroom, and a private bedroom with a locking door. The only strange thing is that all of the larger VIP rooms have 2 single beds in them - none have a full size bed like the standard rooms. The first time I visited this sauna I got the VIP room. As I was not sure what to expect I ended up getting the 60 minute massage plus happy ending for 400 RMB. The girl was very nice and even took her top off for me. She was young, and had very large, soft, natural breasts. The price was a little high for a hand-job, but not a bad experience. The 2nd time I visited I was taken to a standard room. I figured since I would probably only get a hand-job I would just stick with the smaller room. I chose a different girl who was again pleasant, but this time she would not take off her top. The door to the room had a small window, and several times during the massage she would look up at the door like she felt someone might "catch" us. So much for the standard room. The last time I visited this sauna I decided on the VIP room again. I choose the same girl as my 1st time, but this time she offered me the whole package for 400 RMB. This was on top of the typical sauna and room rate. I think what it worked out to was 2, 60 minute sessions. All said and done it cost around 600 RMB. Not a bad way to spend an afternoon.



Sammy:

Thank you for a nice and detailed report. Is this sauna you were referring to the one at corner turning off from Jiu Xian Qiao Road, just across from the Da Zhong Appliance Shop? I think that one is called "Shi Yi" ( 世一 ), and they have a big sign saying the "bath charge" is RMB 48. The place does look more upscale from the outside than what you described. Well, I guess you really can judge a book by its cover.

I've gone past there so many time and always wondered what kind of service they provide. I will probably give that a try in the next few days.

Do they allow you choices of girls? And do they have a large selection?

Thanks!

Sniffer

Sammy_T
12-19-06, 04:06
Sammy:

Thank you for a nice and detailed report. Is this sauna you were referring to the one at corner turning off from Jiu Xian Qiao Road, just across from the Da Zhong Appliance Shop? I think that one is called "Shi Yi" ( 世一 ), and they have a big sign saying the "bath charge" is RMB 48. The place does look more upscale from the outside than what you described. Well, I guess you really can judge a book by its cover.

I've gone past there so many time and always wondered what kind of service they provide. I will probably give that a try in the next few days.

Do they allow you choices of girls? And do they have a large selection?

Thanks!

Sniffer

Sniffer -

Yes, that's it! The Shi Yi right across the street from the Da Zhong electornics store. It really is not bad at all, but it is a step down from the Chun Xiu Lu sauna. Anyone acustom to local places will not have a problem with it, but someone on their first visit to Beijing might raise their eyebrows a little.

The first time I went they brought in the girls one at a time, but let me keep seeing different girls until I saw one I liked. The other 2 times they brought in a small line-up of 5 girls and let me pick. I am not sure if they had other girls in reserve as each time I picked from the first group.

I hope this helps. If you check it out let me know.

Sammy

Hello2003
12-19-06, 08:06
Last night went to the Pig around 9PM. You know the drill.

When I sleep at night I unplug my room phone at night and turn off my mobile.

This morning at around 8AM I awake to knocks on my door. When I open the door of my serviced apartment I am greeted by three of the staff in their dapper little hotel uniforms, two guys and one girl with a big grin on her face the whole time.

Miss X is waiting for you downstairs they tell me. Okay, so I am having deja vu over the way something similar happened to me in 2002. "Do you want me to send her up or will you come down" they ask me. "Uhhh... I will come down". This girl is very pretty, 14 years younger than me, works in the fashion industry. But when we spent the short time together, it was clear it was not going to be a long term connection because I didn't click with her like I thought I would.

So I tell the girl who is already in my room I will be back shortly. Go downstairs, the freebie I hooked up with and spent two days with is there. She starts telling me she loves me and bought me a triangle (whatever the hell that is). She is crying. I said look, we were quite clear in our discussion that it didn't seem like it would work for us. I told her I don't need this kind of embarassment at my place and she should just move on.

Then I went back to my room. Fifteen minutes later there is a knock on my door again. I open it and it's HER!

This whole scene now occurs, with the one girl from the Pig in my bedroom and Miss X standing in my living entry asking me why I do not love her etc. when she told me she loved me.

Just to give a little background I have dated non-working girls plenty of times before, with a long term gf relationship of 6 months with one, and 2 months with another, and do not monger when in such a relationship.

But I made the mistake of hanging with and banging with this new freebie. It was only two days together. And I thought we ended it mutally. Frankly, the chemistry just wasn't there to stick with it, although she is very cute.

This puts a damper on my whole freebie outlook at the moment. I just don't need the hassle. Although I admit I have three nights in a row where I am supposed to meet freebies. Tonight through Thursday. I might even cancel the one I am supposed to meet tonight for dinner.

Gentlemen, be careful how you handle freebies. They do not like it when you let them go. Any advise would be appreciated on how to handle for future reference.

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Sniffer
12-19-06, 10:36
Sniffer -

Yes, that's it! The Shi Yi right across the street from the Da Zhong electornics store. It really is not bad at all, but it is a step down from the Chun Xiu Lu sauna. Anyone acustom to local places will not have a problem with it, but someone on their first visit to Beijing might raise their eyebrows a little.

The first time I went they brought in the girls one at a time, but let me keep seeing different girls until I saw one I liked. The other 2 times they brought in a small line-up of 5 girls and let me pick. I am not sure if they had other girls in reserve as each time I picked from the first group.

I hope this helps. If you check it out let me know.

Sammy

Sammy:

Thank you for your reply. Just two more questions for clarification.

From your description, it would appear that you have paid about the same amount of money on your first and third visits, which were both with the same girl. But you got only an HJ on the first trip, and FS on the third one. Is that true? Or have I misunderstood?

Does the RMB 50 or 60 per hour charge include the "basic massage" service? Or was that only for the room charge?

Thanks! Will definitely report here if I got to try that out.

Sniffer

Sir Henry
12-19-06, 17:56
With a little help of "new friends"

Hi, guys,

Thanks a lot for all these informations on this site. I am a really newbee in China and I will arrive at the 29. Dec. For 3 weeks. Later in the year I will stay for maybe 1 or 2 years in beijing but now I want to check the place and learn a little bit about the country and the people.

For that I hope to get in touch (private messages) with some experienced guys to make a appoinment for a beer or two.

Especially on New years eve I don't want to stay alone in a foreign city.

In the moment I am checking apartments or hotels near Tiananmen square.

Maybe you can recomment me some god adresses.

Thanks a lot.

Hope to meet some of you soon.

LG

Beijing Xiber
12-20-06, 01:45
With a little help of "new friends"

Hi, guys,

Thanks a lot for all these informations on this site. I am a really newbee in China and I will arrive at the 29. Dec. For 3 weeks. Later in the year I will stay for maybe 1 or 2 years in beijing but now I want to check the place and learn a little bit about the country and the people.

For that I hope to get in touch (private messages) with some experienced guys to make a appoinment for a beer or two.

Especially on New years eve I don't want to stay alone in a foreign city.

In the moment I am checking apartments or hotels near Tiananmen square.

Maybe you can recomment me some god adresses.

Thanks a lot.

Hope to meet some of you soon.

LG

I suggest you forget about the Tiananmen area for apartments. Too far from the action. Try Seasons Park on Chun Xiu Lu a very short stroll from Chun Xiu Lu sauna and Salitun Bar street. A friend of mine who moved here used it as his first China home and was very happy with the location and services.

Hello2003
12-20-06, 07:20
But I am rapidly starting to believe that the Mongolian girls on the circuit in the bar scene in this city overall provide the best service.

I blew off my freebie date last night. After the big drama yesterday with the one freebie, I just couldn't deal with it. Waded through Maggie's last night. Man, people just like to party at this place. The music is much louder than I remember it to be. It's actually hard to talk to people in there now. As usual the Chinese girls who work the bar were doing their thing, but I don't bother with them because they are mostly only playing for tips. And they had 4 or 5 of the Chinese bar girls working last night. I saw something I hadn't noticed ever before, which was one of the Chinese bar girls, quite pretty, was changing outfits throughout the night. One time I saw her with a red blouse and white skirt, then next time she changed into a more conservative blue dress and was just hanging out behind the bar. I'd never seen her before, but she was hot. I always get a kick out of how the guys there will fawn all over these girls. The only time I ever hung out with one of the bar girls was on a Sunday night in the old Maggie's when the place was absolutely dead. And it was funny because the one laowai (I think he's the, or one of the owners -- older jolly guy, forget his country of origin, maybe Ireland?). He would keep coming up to me and say jokingly "I see you found a girfriend, eh?".

There was also a girl there last night who is an excellent pool player. I was actually impressed by her ability to shoot pool.

You can always find an attractive, energetic, young Mongolian girl at Maggies. Sure, there are some that just sit there that aren't that great looking, they kind of remind me of sad ghosts, just sitting there along the walls or at the bar, sometimes getting a guy to talk to them. But there were quite a few real nice, bright and shiny ones there last night.

Every time I have gone with one of these Mongolian hottie girls, it has been a very pleasing experience, very GFE, they usually always seem genuinely happy to be with you, no rushed service, will spend the night (for a little extra) and an extra pop in the morning is guaranteed. And man, many of them are damn beautiful.

If I didn't have a lunch meeting I would have called in sick and kept this one girl around the whole day today.

JoseMarti
12-20-06, 10:24
Newbie Mongolian Report.

Went to Maggies on Monday night. I got there about 10:30 pm. I guess it was a little early according to the board. So I sat up at the bar and got myself a drink, then strolled around to see the layout.

Planted myself at the bar and then lit up a cigar. If you were there, then I was the only non-white guy smoking a cigar. If you see me there again, say hi and we'll have a drink :)

I was approached by the bar girl, did a little bit of chit chat and she asked me for a drink. I said I am waiting for a friend, but maybe later. She left me alone. 30 mins later I get flanked by 2 more bar girls. Told them the same story. they left me alone.

At about 11:30pm the Mongols rolled in. But being a total blind man that I am, I cannot tell the difference between the bar girls and the working girls. But I think I have a trick. The bar girls are all wearing dresses and the working girls all have jeans/pants on. Is this correct? Maybe one of the veterans can verify this statement?

So this girl comes up to me. Little bit heavier than I liked and starts talking, says she mistook me for someone else and then we started to chat. Pretty face, but body on the heavy side. Asked her where she was from and she said Mongolia. Perfect! Rookie mistake #1, never take the first girl. But given zero experience and not being able to know the difference between a local and Mongol, I keep talking to her. I struck a deal $150 LT. I didn’t have RMB and wanted to make sure $'s was ok. She said fine.

1am and we're at my place. She asks for the money up front. I say flat out no way. I get the goods, you get the cash. She says fine. She then opens her purse and gives me a ring made of “Mongolian Silver” and puts it on my finger. She has an identical one and puts it on her hand. Aw, how sweet…..

She was average at best. After we were done, she got ready to go. WTF! This was supposed to be all night! Told her so...she agreed and planted her ass back down. Then she talked my ears off on how great Mongolia was and blah blah blah...yheesh. She should be the ambassador!

Hit the bed, had another round at 6am, she left by 7am.

Lessons learned.

1) Go to Maggies after 12am
2) Figure out the difference between locals and Mongols
3) Never take the first girl that talks to you unless she is drop dead gorgeous or your type

Read my next post for more disasters in Beijing

JoseMarti
12-20-06, 10:57
9pm. Went to a KTV right next to the Crown Plaza Wuzhou. I was there with a Chinese friend of mine. I have no idea what the rates are as he paid for everything.

Went in, got to the room. Before the girls came in I went to the bathroom. Strangest thing. All the girls are huddled in the lobby next to the bathrooms. So you have to squeeze through them to go there. All of them were stunning. I mean this was like the best women in Beijing put in one room. Anyway...

Back to the room. Looked at the line up. This one girl just made me go gaga as soon as she walked in. I immediately pointed to her. She was wearing a beautiful floral dress below the shoulders. Very traditional looking girl with perfect black long silky hair. (See pics).

We did the usual, chit chated via my friend as the translator, played dice, danced....All touchy feely through out the night.

12:30am...Friend says: Take a cab and she will follow you. Pay her 1500 RMB in the morning around 8am. I would pay anything to be with this girl.

Got to my place, she undressed and revealed her stunning body. Perfect small breasts and a firm round butt. And of course and nice little jungle right in the center.

We hopped in to the shower and spent some time playing. We then got out and headed to the couch. Most soft wonderful FS I have had. WOW, this was going to be a night to remember....or was it?

She then cleaned up and started to dress...HUH!!! How the heck does this happen to me?!

I told her all night and the price, she points at the door indicating she had to go. Crap. I popped open Google Translator and typed in "All night, 1500 ". She just shook her head and pointed at the door.

Crap, what do I do now? My friend had taken 2 birds home and did not want to call him in distress. So I sent him an SMS, if he gets it great, if not, I'm screwed. He responded and said, all night 1500. I SMSed him back and asked him to call me if he could. He calls me, tells me to give the phone to her. They chat for an eternity. I get the phone and he says: if she goes now, don’t pay anything, if she stays, then 1500. Fair enough. I hang up the phone.

She looks at me again, puppy eyes and all. Points to the door and then opens her palm for me to pay her...Yheesh. I say, go now, zero, stay, 1500. So she refused to leave unless I paid her. I went to my room and hopped into bed and turned the lights off, leaving her to ponder the rest of the night on what she wants to do. She comes into the room, turns on all the lights and takes my blanket off and looks like she is going to cry. :( She points to her heart and then points to my heart and signals to pay her and let her go. I mean this girl is really really sweet and all and I would love to see her again, but this unprofessional attitude was turning me off. I SMS my friend again

They talk again...new deal...pay her for the cab 200RMB and she will leave. COOL!. I get 200 RMB, give it to her. Still refuses to leave. Oh Boy, tough cookie this one. So i grab a pen and paper...and write down "08:00 = 1500 RMB; arrow = 200 RMB". She crosses the 200 and makes it 800. I cross it out and make it 600. She looks at it with sad puppy eyes....and agrees.

Sigh....this ruined the wonderful time we had. Stupid thing is, I really want to see her again. Maybe after I learn some Mandrin :D

Any verterans want to teach a rookie the way? I am here for another week. PM me.

-JM

Hello2003
12-20-06, 13:20
The bar girls are all wearing dresses and the working girls all have jeans/pants on. Is this correct?No, that is not correct. The working girls dress in all different ways, from the skimpiest of skirts with small, knitted tops that only cover their boobs, to full length dresses, jeans, whatever. Many of the WG like to reveal the goods, so to speak, often wearing things that show off their bellies, boobs, etc. I just reported earlier about the bar girls at Maggies actually changing outfits throughout the night.


Rookie mistake #1, never take the first girl. But given zero experience and not being able to know the difference between a local and Mongol, I keep talking to her. I struck a deal $150 LT. I didn’t have RMB and wanted to make sure $'s was ok. She said fine. She asks for the money up front.$150 is a little high, that would be around 1200 RMB. But I have paid that for an exceptional Mongolian before, for all night. You can usually get away with 1000RMB for all night. That's interesting she asked you for the money up front. I never had a Mongolian gal do that. Chinese girl, yes. But then I never give it to them unless finished.


She was average at best. After we were done, she got ready to go. WTF! This was supposed to be all night!Well, it must have been kinda early and she wanted to go back to earn another 1000RMB.


Lessons learned.

1) Go to Maggies after 12am
2) Figure out the difference between locals and Mongols
3) Never take the first girl that talks to you unless she is drop dead gorgeous or your type
Agree with all three.

Pointpanic
12-20-06, 13:55
Anyone thats been around this wonderfull forum should know the difference between short time and long time. Shame on you. In Chang Ping its 2, 5, 8 but in Beijing its 2-3, 6-8, 12-15. That's sit, sort time and long time! Hope this helps. It was 20 C in Beijing when I left on Sunday please take pity on those beautiful girls.


9pm. Went to a KTV right next to the Crown Plaza Wuzhou. I was there with a Chinese friend of mine. I have no idea what the rates are as he paid for everything.

Went in, got to the room. Before the girls came in I went to the bathroom. Strangest thing. All the girls are huddled in the lobby next to the bathrooms. So you have to squeeze through them to go there. All of them were stunning. I mean this was like the best women in Beijing put in one room. Anyway...

Back to the room. Looked at the line up. This one girl just made me go gaga as soon as she walked in. I immediately pointed to her. She was wearing a beautiful floral dress below the shoulders. Very traditional looking girl with perfect black long silky hair. (See pics).

We did the usual, chit chated via my friend as the translator, played dice, danced....All touchy feely through out the night.

12:30am...Friend says: Take a cab and she will follow you. Pay her 1500 RMB in the morning around 8am. I would pay anything to be with this girl.

Got to my place, she undressed and revealed her stunning body. Perfect small breasts and a firm round butt. And of course and nice little jungle right in the center.

We hopped in to the shower and spent some time playing. We then got out and headed to the couch. Most soft wonderful FS I have had. WOW, this was going to be a night to remember....or was it?

She then cleaned up and started to dress...HUH!!! How the heck does this happen to me?!

I told her all night and the price, she points at the door indicating she had to go. Crap. I popped open Google Translator and typed in "All night, 1500 ". She just shook her head and pointed at the door.

Crap, what do I do now? My friend had taken 2 birds home and did not want to call him in distress. So I sent him an SMS, if he gets it great, if not, I'm screwed. He responded and said, all night 1500. I SMSed him back and asked him to call me if he could. He calls me, tells me to give the phone to her. They chat for an eternity. I get the phone and he says: if she goes now, don’t pay anything, if she stays, then 1500. Fair enough. I hang up the phone.

She looks at me again, puppy eyes and all. Points to the door and then opens her palm for me to pay her...Yheesh. I say, go now, zero, stay, 1500. So she refused to leave unless I paid her. I went to my room and hopped into bed and turned the lights off, leaving her to ponder the rest of the night on what she wants to do. She comes into the room, turns on all the lights and takes my blanket off and looks like she is going to cry. :( She points to her heart and then points to my heart and signals to pay her and let her go. I mean this girl is really really sweet and all and I would love to see her again, but this unprofessional attitude was turning me off. I SMS my friend again

They talk again...new deal...pay her for the cab 200RMB and she will leave. COOL!. I get 200 RMB, give it to her. Still refuses to leave. Oh Boy, tough cookie this one. So i grab a pen and paper...and write down "08:00 = 1500 RMB; arrow = 200 RMB". She crosses the 200 and makes it 800. I cross it out and make it 600. She looks at it with sad puppy eyes....and agrees.

Sigh....this ruined the wonderful time we had. Stupid thing is, I really want to see her again. Maybe after I learn some Mandrin :D

Any verterans want to teach a rookie the way? I am here for another week. PM me.

-JM

Alex Rock
12-20-06, 17:46
Any advise would be appreciated on how to handle for future reference.Boy you found the extreme type. Either it's your superior skills or her desperation.!

After running into similar situations a couple of times, I chose to be bluntly honest that I want to be single screw around. 95% of girls seem to take it. The 5% that don't, I asked them to bring a friend for a threesome. Believe it or not 2 did!. One that was very clingy was quite a hassle and took some unpleasant cruel kindness to get rid of. Maybe you need to be more honest up front.

There used to be a Chinese bar girl at Maggie's like that - a little desparate to lock a guy down, weepy and clingy. I've forgotten her name now. She got fired because a monger here wrote about his experience screwing her - the Maggie's owner read the thread - next day she was fired.

2 Morals here - be straight and honest with freebies and don't screw Chinese bar girls at Maggie's - if you do don't post the story here.

Intransit
12-20-06, 18:46
Hello and Jose,

Thank you both for going out on your own and exploring as new members of the Forum. Your reports are excellent and greatly appreciated.

Hello, I know Sammy_T would certainly agree with you, and I would probably nine times out of 10. Except for the occasional Chinese women with whom I have extraordinarily wild sex, I think certainly on paper Mongolians are the way to go.

Jose, the Maggie's full-time employees will wear dresses, but the Mongolians will certainly not adhere to any dress code. Generally the Mongolians are taller and have higher cheekbones and rounder faces. However, the easy way to tell is this: "Hi, where are you from?" "Mongolia" or "Ulan Bataar" means they're Mongolian.

Have fun guys, we look forward to more reports from you.

TheGun
12-21-06, 00:36
Hello,

I have been reading so many reports on this board and I am grateful for everyones insights and help. I will be traveling to bejing later this year (I hope) and then in 2008 for the olympics. Currently, I have a choice of 3 hotels for my stay. Can the experts please advise if any hotel is in a better location than the others and/or if they are guest friendly and if any sticks out as being a better hotel.

I thank you in advance for your help and hope to meet up with some of you when I visit. Here are the hotels:

Beijing Zhengxie conference center

Holiday Inn Lido

Friendship Hotel

Take care.

PenanGuy
12-21-06, 08:41
Hi Jason,

I am up for a drink today and tomorrow night. Just let me know the place.

Hello2003
12-21-06, 12:03
Hello and Jose,

Thank you both for going out on your own and exploring as new members of the Forum. Your reports are excellent and greatly appreciated.Thanks, if not for the information by all of you guys, and to Jackson, I would have never had known where to begin on my own. I'm not a total newb to Beijing, but just recently arrived back. As I am getting used to speaking/listening to Chinese again, I will begin diving deeper beyond the usual places a laowai newbie would go. I realize a lot of what I've said so far is old news to longtime visitors of this forum, but I think every bit of info helps. I'm finding I prefer Mongolians, but they don't like to hear me try to practice Chinese when with them.

Intransit
12-21-06, 13:37
Intransit MAY be at Maggie's around 11:30 pm Thursday night, and MAY be wearing an article of clothing with the logo of his favorite English soccer team.

Me10
12-21-06, 15:53
I would like to know how Studio 54 is doing now days. Any interesting experiences there? After being few weeks a month for already a year, I am getting a bit bored of Maggies and the Pig. Have tried to adventure to the "local chinese" mongering scene but I guess the frustration is not really worth it. Need something more foreigner friendly... Any senior member interested in some adventures?

TheGun
12-21-06, 16:14
Any help on the hotels?

PenanGuy
12-21-06, 19:55
The Gun,

Try this hotel or Service Apartment RMB380-RMB450. In fact I rang them up and the receptionists said they can offer three hours stay. It must be definitely 'gals friendly'. It is called Fu Kingston Apartment, 58 East san huan, block C. Number is 5867 4000.

JoseMarti
12-21-06, 22:57
Passion + Pig + Possible Freebie

Yes. I have been busy. This is a report and I seek some advice in the end of it.

Wednesday Night Passion Disco – GW Sheraton

I arrived there with two friends (one guy and one girl, both Chinese). Cover is 100 RMB, with 1 beer included. As soon as we walked in we were surrounded by bar girls. All very nice looking and all spoke English. I didn’t want bar girl so excused myself and sat with my other female friend.

Drank like a fish all night. But I had my eye on this young waitress. Really cute and young looking. Got my friend to talk to her. She spoke some English which was great! She said she was not allowed to talk to me while on the job. Towards then end when thet close around 2am, she hung out with us and had drink with me and some peanuts. We exchanged SMS’s and told her I wanted to see her again. She said she would SMS me. Sweet. But I didn’t keep my hopes up. So this girl is my possible freebie. Her name is Snow.

Thursday Night – Pig + Possible Freebie.

After reading so much about the Pig I decided to venture all the way across town. Right when I was about to leave at 9:40pm, the waitress from Passion SMSed me. We exchanged a few messages and I told her to SMS me at 2:30 am after she gets off from work. Not getting my hopes to high, I decided to still go to the Pig. Coast me 40RMB to get there. Walked in at 10pm. It was quite packed. I planted my self front and center of the bar. A Mongol immediately made eye contact at the back left of the bar.

But tonight I was determined to go Chinese. I chatted with an Italian gentleman for a while and then started to scope out. Turned out there was a hottie Chinese girl right next to me. Sweet! Plus I thought she was the hottest of the lot. Didn’t want to make the same mistake I made at Maggies on Monday night. We chatted, she got touchy feely. Bought her a drink, white wine. She then whispers into my ear. “I need some help”. I say sure, what’s up girl? She says she needs some money. I ask how much, she says 1000 RMB. I day 600RMB. She says 800RMB and doesn’t budge. Ok fine. I guess that is street rate.

She tells her friends she is going to take off and we head out. Across town again. In the car I ask her if she is from Beijing. She says no, she is Mongilian. WTF!! Arrrgghhh! Damn it! Oh well. I really need to figure this out. She wasn’t large and had smallish breasts and look 100% Chinese I swear!!

Got to the room, she refused to shower.  I took a shower and we hit the bed. She refused BJ. Man, do I have shitty luck or what! Proceeded with missionary and rammed and finished in doggy. Damange $100 + 30 RMB taxi money.

I hit the sack. 2am I get an SMS from Snow, the passion waitress. We exchange a couple of SMS’s and I decide to meet her outside the GWS. In her message she says “meet us”, so I assume she will have a friend with her. Ok, no worries.

She says lets go to Tan Hui. I have no clue what or where that is, but I agree. We walk into Tang Hui. It’s a huge club playing hip hop with a dance floor. The place is quite packed. It is next to a place called Baby Face for the folks who know Beijing. We have drinks, play dice and chit chat. 5am the place is shutting down and we get kicked out.

Time to go home. I get a taxi and head home…I wanted to ask me if she wanted to come, but the friend factor put me off.

So here I am writing this report, with two McDee’s egg mc-muffins to keep me company while I write this report.

So the advice I need is, how do I get the Passion waitress in the sack? She wants to meet again, but how do I loose the friend and get her to come to my place?

Thanks All.

Goodnight…I mean, good morning

-JM

Hello2003
12-22-06, 00:38
Passion. I didn’t want bar girl so excused myself... Drank like a fish all night. As far as I could tell, all the "bar girls" at this place are working. They are all Chinese. The only "bar girls" are the waitresses!


Thursday Night – Pig.

After reading so much about the Pig I decided to venture all the way across town. Walked in at 10pm. It was quite packed. I planted my self front and center of the bar. A Mongol immediately made eye contact at the back left of the bar. But tonight I was determined to go Chinese. Turned out there was a hottie Chinese girl right next to me. Sweet! Plus I thought she was the hottest of the lot. She tells her friends she is going to take off and we head out. Across town again. In the car I ask her if she is from Beijing. She says no, she is Mongilian. WTF!! Arrrgghhh! Damn it! Oh well. I really need to figure this out. She wasn’t large and had smallish breasts and look 100% Chinese I swear!If you thought she was the best of the lot, why does it matter where she was from? By the way, I was there last night shortly after 10pm as well. I thought it was pretty empty. By 11:15 there was hardly anyone there. I left a little after midnight. There were Russians, Uzbekistans, Chinese and Mongolians up until that time. And I never had someone outright lie to me about their country of origin.


Thursday - Pig. Got to the room, she refused to shower. I took a shower and we hit the bed. She refused BJ. Man, do I have shitty luck or what!I find this a bit odd. A quick shower when coming back from a bar is practically a ritual. The only times I or a girl have not showered is when we arranged a daytime session, when it was obvious we both had showered before meeting -- hair still partially wet, you can smell the cleaness. Also, if these girls refuse BJ, word will get around. In fact, I've never even had to ask. They just start with it. So I don't get your luck with that, either.


Discoing by Babyface and your freebie. Time to go home. I get a taxi and head home…I wanted to ask me if she wanted to come, but the friend factor put me off... She wants to meet again, but how do I loose the friend and get her to come to my place?I've been to Babyface and the disco next to it. You go out with her again. You say you like to drink, and she drinks. If after the second or third time you got out with her to party nothing happens, something is wrong. If you're shy or something ask for her hand so you can read her palm. Make up some BS, then keep holding it. This is a contact sport, my friend. Put your hand on her leg, put your arm around her. You could dance with her as well, yes? Always helps. Tell her you like her. In addition, I think the friend factor, as you put it is a bonus. It's hard to tell your meaning. If you mean having her as a friend? Bonus. If you mean she has a friend with her when you go out? Can also be a bonus. The more people you meet the better off you are. Her friend will respect her decision for the two of you to hook up and go off. It happens all the time.

If you are not with a "freebie" by the second or third meetup, it ain't gonna happen, except as pure friends - which by the way, there is nothing wrong with that! The more people you know the better, for social purposes, which are a required part of any long-time stay in Beijing.

JoseMarti
12-22-06, 04:58
Hi Hello,

Thanks for the followup.

The girl at the Pig didn't lie to me about origin. My eyes lied :) I thought she was Chinese but I never asked her before leaving. And you're right. If she was the best of the lot, then it doesn't matter. I left the Pig at 11pm and at around 10:45pm, the place kind of magically started to get thin.

I am a little bit confused about the no BJ part as well. Never had that happen to me. Her name is Ana I think. Thin, tall and straight jet black hair and a little black mole on her upper left lip. If you notice her hands, she has green nails.

I will probably go out with Snow (passoion waitress) again. Her friend might be there too. Let's see what happens. One issue is that I am a little shy and not very agressive. If nothing happens, we can be just friends.

-JM

Blacklisted
12-22-06, 05:31
I will probably go out with Snow (passoion waitress) again. Her friend might be there too. Let's see what happens. One issue is that I am a little shy and not very agressive. If nothing happens, we can be just friends.

-JM


One word for you to keep in mind next time you are out:

Attack.

Hello2003
12-22-06, 06:38
Hello,

I have been reading so many reports on this board and I am grateful for everyones insights and help. I will be traveling to bejing later this year (I hope) and then in 2008 for the olympics. Currently, I have a choice of 3 hotels for my stay. Can the experts please advise if any hotel is in a better location than the others and/or if they are guest friendly and if any sticks out as being a better hotel.

I thank you in advance for your help and hope to meet up with some of you when I visit. Here are the hotels:

Beijing Zhengxie conference center

Holiday Inn Lido

Friendship Hotel

Take care.What's your length of stay this visit? And what kind of mongering do you want to experience? If you are going to get around by taxi, I find the distances to typical mongering places are relevant to the length of time you will be here. Meaning, after a while you get used to sitting in traffic for a while. At mongering hours, traffic can be much better, but after a while you just resign yourself that it takes a long time to go anywhere in this huge city. I'm not an "expert" but I think I would rule out the Friendship if you are a foreigner and don't speak the language. Too far out on the other side of the third ring road. The Zhengxie center is close to Wangfujing, this isn't too far from the popular foreigner places. The Lido is a bit out there nearer to 4th ring road, but hey. You only have to walk into the bar to begin your studies. :) Again, later at night traffic is much better, but you never know. Anybody remember when that bridge near Guomao started collapsing an they shut down the length of the 3rd ring road for a while? That was a major drag on commutes for me. My old apartment was south of Guomao.

DayNight
12-22-06, 07:57
I am back from BJ. I didn't really explore the P4P scene. I know it's expensive. So I saved some rmb, and anyway, lately I lost some interest in the P4P scene....

I have met a few QQ chat friends in BJ. And one in particular was 100% GF. Not much experience, but eager to try everything - and an extremely fast learner. She is definitely in my pesonal all time top 3 list! Overall is QQ a very very good resource to meet girl.

HOWEVER, I did met one that wanted to drag me to a seedy bar. I presume it was a setup for a planed ripoff. After I suggested a place in Wangfujing she lost interest and went away. That was a bit strange since we met in an exclusive chinese QQ room, means those scams target Chinese too. She didn't spoke any English too.

Also, one get very very often approached in the main tourists area by scammers. That is namely Wangfujing and the street from there to Tiananmen. Mainly it's "art students" and sometimes the "tea scam"

So just watch out. Otherwise BJers are very friendly and helpfull.

I also went to 2 "massage" places. I mean those very small places with the redish or blueish light and a few girls in there. "Just" massage is 50 for 45 Minutes. HJ should be the standard added 50. Nothing really special about it there.

Ontario Boy
12-22-06, 08:19
[quote=daynight].also, one get very very often approached in the main tourists area by scammers. that is namely wangfujing and the street from there to tiananmen. mainly it's "art students" and sometimes the "tea scam"

it seems that the number of scammers are increasing and you will now find them in other parts of the city such the art street liulichang and dazhalan shopping street as well as the norther lake bar areas, houhai and xihai. chinese friends say that they will approach anyone who looks like an "out of towner " if there are not enough lao wei around.


you have to be suspicious when pretty girls approach you in the street trying to start a conversation. "lao beijing" should quickly state that they are not interested in buying pictures or having tea and see how long the girls stick around. i 'm actually thinking of having a button made that says "no pictures/no tea" which will save me a lot of time and speed up my walks.

Hello2003
12-22-06, 11:30
1) For Sammy, this past week I did go with that one girl we both think is the same from our mutual descriptions. She just seems hot to me, even with small boobs (which she is very conscious of by the way). I was very tired, but went with her. She's short, young, cute, sweet, nice girl. I discovered another way to know if we are talking about the same one, you said she is also one of your current favorites. She wears her hair in a bun. I asked her about it, and she took it down and it goes down to her nice ass, like a horse mane. I did ST with her. I was tired and unfortunately didn't get a full erection that night. But nice BBBJ and I ended up whacking myself while she licked the sack. 800. The whole process after arriving back to my place took about 2 hours. Then I got a burst of energy so went to Suzie Wong's, ordered some spicy soup with dumplings (yuck), and ate them at one of the little tables within the dance area, and afterwards, just had fun.

2) Last night after leaving the Pig around 12 I went to Maggies. I was feeling very chatty so talked to many girls. A lot of them told me they are getting ready to go home soon. And so will many of you for the Xmas/New Year holiday, I suppose. So I guess this is going to be a good weekend to just cut loose and have some fun.

3) You know, I always try to be nice to the girls, even if I feel like it's time for them to go. I do things like send them an sms that says "Enjoyed your company, thank you, hope to see you soon". This seems to help because they like it, call you or text you back, and the next time you are out and they see you chatting with another girl, they are cool about it. Anyway, my motto is "once you know one of them, they all know you".

4) My favorite WG of the times I have been so far text'd me today. I've been out almost every night since my arrival, and things are a little blurry, I had to write down for myself a little note about what I did each day and night. Not because of too much partying, but because of work , jet-lag, readjusting to being here, etc. Anyway, I was invited to dinner with colleagues but instead I am just going to go out early by myself and then hook up with this girl.

This one has stuck in my mind the most. Better looking than the Passion's girl I reported on. I should probably upgrade my membership one of these days. Some of you might know her. She has a name like Ookie or something like that. Some Mongolian name. Tall, tight, flawless skin, great waist, nice chest, she gets wet and plays with herself while she is sucking. Fun as hell to dance with.

I'm finally feeling more adjusted to the time zone, and with the great food, long lunches, etc. I feel like I have a ton of energy for the first time.

5) I think I know this Sunglasses Girl people talk about now. She coordinates her sunglasses with her outfits. Always colorful, cooridinated outfits. Nice big pouty lips, great body (a little ample, but curvy in all the right places with flat tummy). She'll breeze into a place, say hello to a few people, check you out with a stare through her tinted shades that is almost scary (haha) then work her mobile for a while before heading out. I figured what the hell, so I took a pic of her with my cellphone then slid it to her to take a look. We talked for a minute, but I'm staying away from that one. Too professional, and knows far too many people on this scene. Hehe. I just don't want any of my colleagues to know I do the mongering thing. If I see my western colleagues, well, I can deal with that when the time comes.

6) The art student etc. scam. Hey, this should be common knowledge. Even in basic tourist books. The best thing to do is a simple "bu yao" and keep walking, although one time when waiting to meet my ex-gf one summer evening near Wanfujing Jie, I talked to a pair of them for a while. I'm surprised tourists still fall for it.

7) I need a decent massage. Arranged to meet a freebie for lunch and a foot massage afterwards, tomorrow. Yes, the perfect freebie search continues. I've been going out far too much! And we are just about to begin the weekend! Good luck everyone.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Member #3429
12-22-06, 20:49
Tell the Taxi driver you want to go to Dongzhimen wai (why) and mention Bi Sheng Ke (which is the Pizza hut). All taxi drivers know Bi shang Ke on Dongzhimen wai.

Chun Xiu Lu is the road beside the Pizza hut and Dongzhimen wai is the big highway in front of the Pizza hut. Cross the road from pizza hut and walk down about two minutes on Chun Xiu Lu. and wala. there you are.

I'll be there early afternoon tomorrow. Anyone coming over let me know and we can grab a drink there.

Jason

Member #3429
12-23-06, 07:14
Hey guys,

I was just checking in my regular hotel.)-: Home Inn, and found out that they actually have a short term stay. They checked in a customer a couple of minutes before me at 150rmb so I asked about the lower rate for the other customer. They mentioned, its for people who are looking for a short term stay of 6 hours or less. This is one hotel chain you will never have a problem bringing a girl over.

Quality of this hotel is about three stars. Pricing is 299rmb and if you register as a member, its 275. Hey, when you spend a few months in china, especially with no specific address and have to stay in hotels, prices like this looks very attractive.

Home Inn is a relatively new hotel chain in Beijing, they just went public in US.. cashing in 2.2 billion dollars, insane to say the least. Anyways, they are popping up everywhere nowa days. There is one on Dongzhimen wai, a block before pizza hut which is at the corner of Chun Xiu Lu.

Jason

ChickenLover
12-23-06, 11:38
I am planning on travelling to Beijing in January and planning on staying at the Peninsula Hotel.

Can anyone please advise if this is a good idea for maximum enjoyment ;-)

Legal Lad
12-24-06, 02:42
The Pen in BJ is a great place to stay, but i have never seen it as girl friendly. Granted I was there with my SO, but security is everywhere. If your looking for action, try the Kun Lun, or any of the other nice hotels near san li tun.

I highly doubt you gonna find what you looking for at the PEN unless you are wanting to buy some clothes by gucci or prada

Sebastian My
12-24-06, 12:11
I am planning on travelling to Beijing in January and planning on staying at the Peninsula Hotel.

Can anyone please advise if this is a good idea for maximum enjoyment ;-)

While i agree security is everywhere in the peninsular, i have brought russian* women up to my room with no issues, although reception will not allow any call to go through to your room from a girl unless she knows your full name. Mongolians would also be ok. I can't comment on chinese nationals as i only stayed in the hotel for 1 night and decided on russian for the evening. However there is a KTV in the basement which i have been told offers a wide range of services, so something tells me you can enjoy yourself if required - But i would try and get the girl back into the room before 11pm - just in case.
* = Russians can be obtained from Hollywood Disco next to the Ritan Park.

ChickenLover
12-24-06, 22:06
A BIG thanks Legal and Sebastian,

I have checked out the KUN LUN and it looks nice, i might give it a go. But Seb you have got me thinking, I am in for the local delicacy but just wondered what the Russian chicken was like and where to find it?

I have had some so-so experiences and some good experiences in Shenzhen and Tangshan (just East of BJ) and one great one in Tangshan, I am in Ningbo now and just had a lousy experience with a very pretty girl with no sense of eroticism (boy, did I misread that one).

If you are ever in Tangshan give me a shout I have a recommendation I can definitely make and I have her tel no (700RMB for room service).

CL

Sammy_T
12-26-06, 03:26
1) For Sammy, this past week I did go with that one girl we both think is the same from our mutual descriptions. She just seems hot to me, even with small boobs (which she is very conscious of by the way). I was very tired, but went with her. She's short, young, cute, sweet, nice girl. I discovered another way to know if we are talking about the same one, you said she is also one of your current favorites. She wears her hair in a bun. I asked her about it, and she took it down and it goes down to her nice ass, like a horse mane. Yep, same girl. The ultra long hair certainly gives her away. I had a nice afternoon visit with her on Friday. Her English has gotten much better over the last several months, so she must be busy. I have to confess that she also ranks up there as one of the best oral providers currently in Beijing. As always, a wonderful, GFE. The only down side is that she now knows what she is worth: I normally only pay 600 RMB for a short time, but she pouted her way to 800 RMB, and I think she honestly expected more.


5) I think I know this Sunglasses Girl people talk about now. She coordinates her sunglasses with her outfits. Always colorful, cooridinated outfits. Nice big pouty lips, great body (a little ample, but curvy in all the right places with flat tummy). She'll breeze into a place, say hello to a few people, check you out with a stare through her tinted shades that is almost scary (haha) then work her mobile for a while before heading out. I figured what the hell, so I took a pic of her with my cellphone then slid it to her to take a look. We talked for a minute, but I'm staying away from that one. Believe it or not, this girl is one of my closest friends. If you see her breze in and talk to a fat looking American it my very well be me. In my mind she is the true "hooker with the heart of gold". While she may come off as professional, if you go with her it will truly be a GFE. She speaks perfect English, and is still a lot of fun to be around. She is also smart enough to remain friends with both the girls and guys she meets, preventing any bar room friction. I have spent a lot of time with her in the past, but for me to go with her now would be like going with my sister. That being said, any time I want to go with a new girl I always check with her first. She always shoots me straight. My primarlly reason for checking with her is to learn if the new girl has any type of negative history, but I guess I am also in some small way asking if it is OK with her for me to go with someone new. I must admit I have walked away from many a hottie based upon her comments. The few times I have ignored her I have lived to regret it. I highly recommend spending time with her, and would be happy to provide her mobile number to any confirmed non-psycos on the board.

And no, I do not get a cut of her business, but after this glowing review perhpas I should ask for one :)

Sammy

Tonicma
12-26-06, 03:36
Hi,

I have been having some well performance issues lately with this new girl. I just want to know where I can buy some really good viagra. I never used them so I would like to know based on other's recommendation. I also have heard about these "chinese" herbal sex medicines but not sure if they are worth the try or stick with conventional Viagra.

Also, I would like to know a reliable place/location to buy real Viagra that is made in the US since I hear that there are a lot of fake ones in Beijing and don't really trust the "made in China" Viagra due to product reliability issues.

I also heard in Beijing viagra is called "wei ge" (big brother) or something like it. What do I have to say so the store knows what I am asking for.

Finally, I also hear that there are "sex stores" in Beijing where you can buy all kinds of sex related items. I am looking for lubrication and Durex Featherlite condoms which I can buy at one location. Again, looking for reliable stores.

Thanks for your help.

Sammy_T
12-26-06, 11:31
Sammy:

Thank you for your reply. Just two more questions for clarification.

From your description, it would appear that you have paid about the same amount of money on your first and third visits, which were both with the same girl. But you got only an HJ on the first trip, and FS on the third one. Is that true? Or have I misunderstood?

Does the RMB 50 or 60 per hour charge include the "basic massage" service? Or was that only for the room charge?

Thanks! Will definitely report here if I got to try that out.

SnifferSniffer - Sorry about that. The first time I went when I got just the HJ the total bill was under 400 RMB. The second time the total was around 600 RMB. I do not think the 50/60 RMB per hour for the room includes the basic massage, this is just the cost if you want to simply rest in the room. I think a basic, no funny business 90 minute massage was something like 128 RMB.

Basher55
12-28-06, 23:56
Anyone got any info or stayed at Minggong hotel hotel?

Mr Media
12-29-06, 04:00
I go to the duty free at the Dalian airport. Pfizer has an operation there, and the V is genuine.


Hi,

I have been having some well performance issues lately with this new girl. I just want to know where I can buy some really good viagra. I never used them so I would like to know based on other's recommendation. I also have heard about these "chinese" herbal sex medicines but not sure if they are worth the try or stick with conventional Viagra.

Also, I would like to know a reliable place/location to buy real Viagra that is made in the US since I hear that there are a lot of fake ones in Beijing and don't really trust the "made in China" Viagra due to product reliability issues.

I also heard in Beijing viagra is called "wei ge" (big brother) or something like it. What do I have to say so the store knows what I am asking for.

Finally, I also hear that there are "sex stores" in Beijing where you can buy all kinds of sex related items. I am looking for lubrication and Durex Featherlite condoms which I can buy at one location. Again, looking for reliable stores.

Thanks for your help.

JoseMarti
12-29-06, 04:05
Having been disappointed with my first 2 Mogols, I was willing to give it one last shot. Monday night was my last night in BJ. Decided to do the 2am round at St. Margaret’s (Maggie’s as one gentleman put it.)

Walked in. Not too populated. Seated myself front and center of the bar. Was immediately chatted up with one of the Chinese bar girls. Told her politely to catch me later. Another bar girl made a 2nd attempt. Again, told her politely to catch me later.

I eyed some of the girls, made contact with one near the door of the bar. She raised her eye brows and then with her finger, motioned me to come over. I made the same gesture to her. She came over and sat down. I asked her where she was from. She didn’t understand. I assumed Mongolia as she definitely didn’t look Chinese. (unlike my last attempt where I thought she was actually Chinese and turned out to be Mongol).

She blatantly declared she didn’t know English. No worries, sign language always works. She got cozy, holding my hand, rubbing it against her thigh. After one cigarette each and the end of our drinks, I pointed to the door and said Lets go. She says: “You, me, sex, ok?”. I said yes and asked her the price. She said something I didn’t understand. I said 700 RMB, she said, ok. We headed out.

Back to my place, into the shower. This is a great sign! Soapy all over, she kneels and starts a BBBJ. Nice! Finally! Her long hair is damp and looks really sexy wandering all over her naked body. We head step out of the shower and onto the main course.

More, BBBJ, cowgirl, reverse cow girl and finished with doggy….aaahhh….nice. Now I was only hoping she would stay and not take off. When done, she rolled over in the blanket, I went and cleaned up. She made no attempt to leave. Cool, I got a spare t-shirt and gave it to her. She gladly accepted, pulled me under the blanket, said something that I didn’t understand and then she touched her eyelids and closed them and then touched my eyelids and closed them and cuddled up to sleep…..Wow, this couldn’t get any better. Great GFE experience and she stays to sleep.

8am she arouses me again for another session. Same positions, different order. After the 2nd pop, we snooze off again. We awake an hour later as I have to leave. Both get dressed and I offer her to go for some coffee before we take off. She says ok….we head to the Starbucks, get coffee, drink, smile, drink smile, take a pic…..done.

Recommendation, Maggies at 2am is better than Maggies at 12am. Opinions may defer, user advice cautiously :)

Sir Henry
12-29-06, 07:39
Arrived in Beijing Yesterday and choose the swissotel near workers stadium.
After a short walk i decided to try the sauna in Chun Xui Lu near the pizza hut. I took the all-inclusive service for about 840 RMB 80 minutes.

A cute girl get in my room and started the massage and then the fire and ice thing. She was very smooth but it all seems to be very proffessional and her massage skills are notas good as i had expected.

With a total damage of 1100 RMB i left the sauna after 2 hours....a nice experience but nothing special. I had been in some massage services in Beijing befor and the seemed similar to me.

So i decide to test some other places in the next weeks here in Beijing.

I would be glad if someone of the guys here on the ISG will get in contact with me by private message or mail because maybe we can have some fun togehter on the weekend and new years day.

See you soon

LG

Intransit
12-29-06, 15:49
Intransit's attempt at legitimate dating and a genuine relationship have ended. As the fine gentlemen from Linkin Park once wrote, "I tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't even matter." I tried very hard, but I guess the woman I called The One is not. Or maybe she is, but, well, that's all over now.

I'll be worshipping at St. Margaret's more often now. I actually went for Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, of all things. Brothers, it's good to be back.

Sir Henry
12-29-06, 16:20
Hello guys,

I arrived in beijing yesterday and after a short walk i decided to visit the sauna in chun xiu lu. I went up to the 4 floor and tried the special programm with everything. The girl was o.k. but nothing special (with a rose tatoo on her right leg, 22 years old) and the massage was really bad. She concentrated on the fire and ice thing and rimming. No idea of enthusiasiastic sex more the proffessional programm. After the "massage" we did several positions and i finished doggiestyle. (nice view)

Total damage about 1200 RMB. But I espected something more for the money.

So today i chosse a real massage service which I had tested several times.
The normally don´t offer sex, only HJ and maybe (depending onthe girl) a BJ.

They had very good, young and cute and experinenced girls and the service is worth the price.

It´s called Xin Yue Xing Cheng, Rm.2510, Tower B, Sunshine100, guanghua lu.
chaoyang district. I payed about 250 for 2 hours oil massage and 200 for the HJ.

So, now i try to sleep a bit because tomorrow i will check the locations around the workers stadium. Would be nice to meet some of you there. Please send me a private message if you are able to have a drink with me and share some ideas.

See you soon,

LG

SidTheSexist
12-30-06, 07:05
In Thailand at the moment but just thought I would jump on to check the forums.

Just before I left Beijing last week, I hit the Chun Xiu Lu sauna again at about 3am. Was so plastered that I can't remember much apart from the big room my accomplice and I shared with our 2 girls.

Forget about the fire and ice, it aint all that. Just pay the whole whack and take control yourself. It gets rid of the mechanics everyone is complaining about and allows for a much better ride. I had a much better time on this occassion and budget permitting, will certainly be spending some more mongering time in there when I get back.

Total damage for 2 people, 150pounds on my credit card statement which is about 2200rmb. That was 1st floor sauna and FS upstairs too.

Ok, enough of China, I'm off to find a brown one.: D

Sid

Senu
12-30-06, 14:55
Anybody tried buying V from the sex shop just outside Lido?

Is it genuine, ie does it work?

I bought some generics from a well known on line Indian store to no effect at all.

Fnally, price guys?

Da Bot
12-30-06, 20:20
I've been to Beijing multiple times, and have mongered in BBS and overpaid for the hotel in-room "massage service." Last week I was there and decided to try out a sauna--there's one not too far from my hotel with "Passion" in it's name, so I figured that for a sure thing.

I went inside and was presented a menu of services. I chose a full-body massage. I went into the locker room where the attendant instructed me to shuck my clothes and put them in the locker; I obediently put them away and donned the paper boxers and the robe and slippers, and was led to a room on the second floor.

A young woman came in, had my lie on the table, and proceeded to work me over. She never came close to my nether regions, and I didn't want to push it in case all was legit. When she was done she asked if I wanted a foot massage, but I said "no", and so was shown back to the locker room where I dressed and then departed after paying my bill. Never was there any offer of other services.

I did notice there was a third floor, but I was not taken there. The attendant would not let me take my wallet or cash into the room with me, they had to stay in the locker.

So, what did I do wrong? Did I need to ask the attendant (who spoke no English) for a xiaojie? Could this place be strictly legit, despite the name?

I'd appreciate advice and counsel from the veterans. And yes, I have RTFF, but either I'm too dim or simply overlooked something.