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Erik
10-13-05, 17:13
Fredo, if you cannot find any info about interesting bars, it is just that there are none. Except in Peking, In China, the best deals are basically in BBS or KTV, either you like it or not. Chinese people don't like bars. Diffetent people, different culture. When in Rom, do as the Romans.

Cronin
10-14-05, 02:25
Fredo,

I'm not a bar person, don't even drink, so I don't know much about the local bars. The expert on GZ bars is Johnnykon666, but I don't think he's around much anymore. I did search on his bar reports and found two old reports, I'm sure they are still pretty accurate.

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I've never been to the Pig or Maggie's in Beijing, but judging from the reports I've read, these GZ bars are nothing like that.

I have been propped just outside the door of the Elephant Bar (across the foot bridge from the Garden Hotel) and have seen some pros inside.

I've only been in Gipsey King's twice (turn left at the main street in front of the Garden Hotel and keep walking, its a basement bar on your left hand side), but there seemed to be a lot of pros and nonpro action, probably pretty pricey.

I've never been to the Wave bar near the Holiday Inn, but I've been told there is a similar pro/nonpro selection.

Good luck.

Cronin

OldAsiaHand
10-14-05, 06:34
Gentlemen,

First, welcome to Guangzhou for the fair! Although most providers will try to take advantage of the situation, on behalf of resident mongers and very frequent visitors, I respectfully request that you all not overpay too much and spoil the market for the rest of us that will still be around in the aftermath of the trade fair. Furthermore, for the less experienced China mongers, I do not recommend that you try to visit the very local areas that Cronin, and other members, post about alone. Try to find a veteran monger or local wingman to accompany you for your own protection.

Just my POV.

Happy Hunting!

OAH

Weelock
10-14-05, 06:42
To Fredo24:

Bars/cluhs on the Pearl River

There are a bunch of bars and some restaurants, at least 15 or more, all lined up in area along the Pearl River ( Zhujiang ). These are NOT your typical KTV bars. The location is very very nice, model, and a clean area where you can take a girl out on a date and walk along the shore line. The shore line has a nice wide sidewalk with a nice view of the river. It looks like area was redeveloped a few year ago. Each bar located in their own detached building with parking around. They are mostly one store buildings. Lots of neon lights, typical of what bars look like. The area is strictly for upper class locals, and I noticed a few foreigners.

I don't know "IF MAJOR ACTION" can be found. I didn't ask the people I was with. I almost sure they are NOT like pick up bars as Maggie's, PIGS, or HRC in Beijing. You need to try your luck since there are bars, therefore maybe??

I was there once and I DON'T remember the exact location since I was taken on a quick tour. This is what I remember, it's east of White Swan Hotel on Yanjiang West Rd. Next, it's somewhere between the White Swan and the Landmark Hotel. Sorry, I know this covers a very large area to search. I'm planning to return to this area again on my next trip for a visit.

Try this link. It's a nice listing of bars in Guangzhou. I notice there are a few bars listed that are on Yanjiang Rd. It might be the same area that I visited. You might find a bar/club just like Maggie's or HRC listed in the link.

http://www.newsgd.com/citiesandtowns/guangzhou/info/200407130034.htm



Weelock

PS Please send a report if you find anything.

Yoga
10-14-05, 08:16
I was in outskirts of Xinhui...not in Guangzhou. 100 RMB for 1 hour - but I just shot in 10 mins and I was finished .

You guys are paying 1300 rmb. When I was in Guangzhou, I asked the cabbies how much and they said it ranged from 200-350 RMB. Well then again, I'm asian and can speak some Mandarin.

They really do a number on the foreigners. You guys get fleeced. Sorry to hear that. I expect like 1-2X more, but four times more?

Man that sucks.

Perhaps you guys just need to ask a cabbie, then again you have to make sure you trust your cabbie.

Prince Leo
10-14-05, 17:46
There is a very well known area called Beer Street, located in Fong Cun, a district on the south side GZ. Tons of bars and beautiful girls. Some of them are just bar girls or dance girls, but some are for the taken. If you are good looking enough, or look rich enough, you can charm one them to go out with you. As for the working girls, you do see some, but not a lot. The price range is 300 to 500 rmb for ST and double the amount for LT/All night. It depends on the quality of the girl and your negotiating skills. This place is really for locals/local laowais, and there are some that do speak some English.

Voss123
10-15-05, 19:40
Any members have experience at or near Star River Hotel -- located in Guangzhou near the Pazou New Exhibition Center? I've got 4 days at this hotel coming up and was hoping it had a nice in-house KTV or Sauna or something very close by, and advice would be appreciated. Have a great evening.

Cronin
10-16-05, 05:16
Voss:

Did you mean the Silver River Hotel on Shatai Road? Hope not, that's pretty far from Pazhou. Is your Hotel on Xingang Street?

I probably wouldn't have any info on either one, never had to use any of the hotels in GZ, but this might clarify for other members.

Cronin

Bill Lee
10-16-05, 06:30
He means this place: http://2005.star-river.com/en/

Stayed there myself. It's right after the second or third bridge crossing going south to Panyu. Some of their apartments overlooks one of the rivers. I think this place is legit. But the underground garage with elevator will allow you to bring in a girl at night without running into the staff at the lobby. There's no security guard in the basement.

It's an apartment complex with a hotel inside. Very nice and expensive. It's the ridiculous apartment ad you see for the Constellation with the statue of Abraham Lincoln at the toll booths near the Park N Shop in Panyu. Has a golf course inside the complex.

The capitol dome KTV is about ten minutes away. Been there. Nice selection. Maybe if you hang out at the entrance during 7 to 8 p.m., you might be able to stop some one from going to work?

BTW, the airport bus stops there at one of the restaurant buildings inside the capitol dome KTV complex. Bus ticket can be purchased inside.

When I say the capitol dome, I meant it's dome shape roof is similar to the U.S. capitol's.

Bill


Voss:

Did you mean the Silver River Hotel on Shatai Road? Hope not, that's pretty far from Pazhou. Is your Hotel on Xingang Street?

I probably wouldn't have any info on either one, never had to use any of the hotels in GZ, but this might clarify for other members.

Cronin

Cronin
10-16-05, 22:57
Oh, of course, my mistake. That place is pretty famous in Guangzhou as being an upscale place to live. Very close to the exhibition center too. I had no idea there was a hotel inside.

Cronin

Bill Lee
10-17-05, 03:58
Why would you even know about this place at all?

(Hmmmm. You're starting to sound legit).

Bill


Oh, of course, my mistake. That place is pretty famous in Guangzhou as being an upscale place to live. Very close to the exhibition center too. I had no idea there was a hotel inside.

Cronin

Member #3434
10-17-05, 11:31
Im planning to be back in GZ Oct 25-30 for the fair and wanted to find out if anyone had any experience with the sauna behind the Garden Hotel. I remember last year i saw a place directly behind the Garden hotel (can see if you walk out of the back entrance and go down the drive way, its on the second or third floor of a building. I think it was called Ming something health center. If anyone has any experience please let me know.

Thanks,

Jon

Lookschinese
10-17-05, 13:55
Hi,

I am currently in Guangzhou for the fair, until the 22nd, when I go on to Hong Kong.

I am by no means an experienced 'monger' but desperately want to get some action while out here. My appearance doesn't help, I am 30 but look much younger, chinese appearance but can't speak chinese. On the other hand I have been told I am good looking, tall etc so all is not lost!

I just need a start, either a good pickup place/bar/disco where I won't get ripped off (my hotel has a disco and charges 60RMB per beer), or a sauna type of place. There is a 'KTV' near my hotel, Guangwu Hotel, but I have no idea how these work and would like to get some info.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Fran123
10-18-05, 11:08
Lookschinese,

Suggestion you start reading the board first. Second, if you are that good looking, you don't need our help. You will have no trouble finding freebies. Third, learn some Chinese. How did you get a job or why were you picked to go to China without knowing at least a few words.


Hi,

I am currently in Guangzhou for the fair, until the 22nd, when I go on to Hong Kong.

I am by no means an experienced 'monger' but desperately want to get some action while out here. My appearance doesn't help, I am 30 but look much younger, chinese appearance but can't speak chinese. On the other hand I have been told I am good looking, tall etc so all is not lost!

I just need a start, either a good pickup place/bar/disco where I won't get ripped off (my hotel has a disco and charges 60RMB per beer), or a sauna type of place. There is a 'KTV' near my hotel, Guangwu Hotel, but I have no idea how these work and would like to get some info.

All help is greatly appreciated.

OldAsiaHand
10-18-05, 14:16
The "Capital Dome" is called the White Palace Hotel. It is the first stop on the bus from the airport to Panyu. Leaves out of the #7 slot in front of the terminal arrival zone. Fare is 28 RMB.





The capitol dome KTV is about ten minutes away. Been there. Nice selection. Maybe if you hang out at the entrance during 7 to 8 p.m., you might be able to stop some one from going to work?

BTW, the airport bus stops there at one of the restaurant buildings inside the capitol dome KTV complex. Bus ticket can be purchased inside.

When I say the capitol dome, I meant it's dome shape roof is similar to the U.S. capitol's.

Bill

Jonas Fun
10-18-05, 18:56
I speak no chinese at all, but anyway I got a bang last night.

I am staying at the Bai Yun hotel, just on the other side of the street from the Garden hotel.

Last night at 9pm I took a walk from my hotel, and followed the road 150 meters to a small pedestrian bridge that crosses the street. On the other side of the road, I walked to the entrance from the Garden Hotel. Totally 500 meters or so. On these 500 meters I got contact with 3 different SW´s that offered me a massage - they where rated from 6-8.

I decided to walk back, and pick up the 8. She is a 21 year old girl, breasts pushed up quite alot and a nice little body. She offered 600 for ST, but after negotiating a little, we agreed on 400 RMB, and we should go to her home. We took a cab - 7 RMB - and went into to her apartment. The service was not very good, so she is not recomendable. I knew I should have picked a more experienced girl...and not this youngster...Maybee tomorrow.

So you people just need to get out on the street, and meet the action.

To OAH and other locals, I hope I did not pay way to much...

Good luck to all

Jonas

Jonas Fun
10-18-05, 19:04
I just needed to get a good massage after a days work, and went to the sauna/massage club at my hotel - the Bai Yun Hotel.

After deciding for Thai massage, I undressed, showered, and went to the TV room, where I got a drink. After 10 minutes I asked to go to the massage, and a nice little girl in quite little clothes turned out to be my masseuse (sorry for the spelling). She directly asked me (she does not speak english and I do not speak chinese) if I want an oily handjob? I said no thank you, but as the session went on, she knew how to turn me on, So she asked again, and this time the answer was positive.

It was quite nice, just to lay on the back, and let her take care of everything, and she was very good... A pleasent experience. Her number is 181, so you can order her if you go to this hotel for the massage. I paid her 300 RMB for the extra service.

Second pop in two days... I am quite satisfied.

Enjoy life

Jonas

OldAsiaHand
10-19-05, 13:22
Jonas Fun:

Thanks for the report. During normal times (not during the fair), the SW by the Garden can be had for as low as 200 RMB ST so you paid double. I've even been offered 150 RMB in lean times. They are usually cheaper if you do them at their place since they do not have to pay the security guys at the hotels anything. Normally, most saunas in Guangzhou offer the 2 session (1.5 hours) package deal at 198-288 RMB; HJ inclusive. No tipping is required. Let's just hope you did not leave any lasting impression on prices. I understand it is still cheap from your perspective. At least you bargained and the prices you paid were not that crazy. Things should be back to normal after the fair.

Live and learn!

OAH

Superforce99
10-19-05, 16:13
Unfortunately, things have gone downhill at the Ramada Shops. Rumor had it that everything
was as usual so I wanted to check it out for myself.

Got there at about 7pm and things were quiet, just a couple of local folks sitting around
and chatting. Row #1 would be directly in front of you if back is facing the Ramada and
you are at the shops and row #2 is on the other parallel side. Now, I've had some of the
best GZ experiences on row #1 but was disappointed to see only shop #1 and shop #4 open
(out of the usual total of 4 on row #1). I've had, at best, lukewarm experiences at these
two shops, except for the perfect 10 (in looks only) a long time ago in shop #1. Funny thing is
that the shops on row #2 are shut, and one has even been changed into a toy shop! Ha....

Bigger, better selection in shop #1 so in I went and mama is already kind of nervous, asking


me several times, "Have you been here before? When?" and the like. Finally, I decided on a
gal from among 5 in the shop. She was the tallest one available, about 5'6 - 5'7, with a
nice thick build without fat; large breasts, solid hips, juicy ass. Nice, but face is only about
6 or so. The fuck-partment is directly across from the shop, so very discreet and convenient.
Waited for gal and went up to room. Typical Chinese apartment and I chose the big bedroom.
Immediately went downhill from there.

no kissing? check.
no kissing cheek? check.
no touching breasts? check.
no touching pussy? check.
no BBJ? check.
no CBJ? check.
no shower...?! check. (but I forced her to...)

then...

no towels? check?
no tissue? check?

Damn, this is set up for the best FS ever, right? Predictably, it was rushed, "are you done?",
"hurry up" style. Total waste of time and money. Finished in world-record time and tossed
her 150 RMB. She even had the gall to ask for a tip. My tip was to tell her "better service = more
money" and put the rest of the change in my hand back into my pocket. Forgot her name, but
she's from Hainan Island. I put her on the category of, "I'm in the mood to bust a quick nut
using a pussy instead of my hand" and not really on par with actual "sex". Maybe
"vaginal-assisted masterbation" is a better categorization of her service.

Ofcourse, YMMV...


Johnny

Disch
10-19-05, 20:35
I went to Bravo Hotel in PanYu a while back several times. Finally, I have some time to write this report. Hope it helps someone.

Its about 5 mins by car or 15 mins to walk there from the center of PanYu. In front it’s a parking lot, but its pack most of the time. So we park across the street.

Walk up steps through the front entrance and you can tell this hotel is newer and its pretty nice. The KTVs is located to the left. Mirage night club I think its called. The right is the hotel check in.

We proceed to the left to the KTV. There is a circular reception. We ask for details on pricing. There is KTV room down stairs next to the public area. Those are about 860 per room. There is also the 3rd floor where it will cost 1100-1300 per room. These rooms are quieter and have more privacy. We decided to check out the rooms at the ground floor first. The rooms are ok. The room is a bit too bright to my liking. There is a smell of damp cloth. But it was ok for what we were intending to do. Its spacious enough for 6, tight for 8. There is an XJ who come in as the server. Also, a Bud girl came in to promote Bud. I was like, ok, that will be the beer of our choice. If my memories are correct, 860 includes 12 beers, fruit platter, nuts and 1 other dish of your choice.

The mamasan then comes in and ask for our liking. We told her our taste and she we off. To my surprise, this place also has floor managers who operate independently from the mamasan. She makes conversation with us and we also told her to hook us up with XJs.

So the trains started coming in. The girls were HOT. The best of PanYu I think. We must have seen about 75 of the 250 there. We made our selections and started our enjoyment.

The XJs are GFE and are great SPs. Groping and touch was also allowed in room. Oh, the sang great too. As we finish 2 more dozen of beers, the night wines down. The XJs who we did not want to bring back, you can pay to your liking. But a min of 200 is expected. For those who you being back for FS, will be 1000. I also tip the mamasan 200. That night, we did not stay at the hotel.

We came back a few nights later and were able to get a room in the hotel for 270 where you have to pay 600 other wise. Maybe it’s the tipping.

It was heaven. The XJ I got was big breasted and was wild in the room. Great FS IMHO. And her boobs were great pillows for the whole night.
Cheers.

233 Guangming Bei Road, Shiqiao Panyu, Guangzhou city tel 0086-20-8489-2888

Sniffer
10-20-05, 01:58
A pleasent experience. Her number is 181, so you can order her if you go to this hotel for the massage. I paid her 300 RMB for the extra service.

Second pop in two days... I am quite satisfied.

Enjoy life

Jonas

Jonas: OAH is right. You can usually get everything including the HJ for under RMB 300. In some places, you can even get fed (fried rice, noodle, etc.) I'm just curious to know, how much did you pay for the massage itself? What was the total damage?

Sniffer

Member #3434
10-20-05, 03:46
Came in to GZ earlier than expected and searched through this thread to find a place to go and found the Guang an quan sauna. Search through this thread, written by Mojo. Easy to get to with a copy of the name card given by Mojo. The showers are pretty old and not as clean as they come, I'm noticing that a lot of the places in GZ are similar.

The room I was led to had a pretty chubby girl which was not to my taste but didnt want to bother changing. Fortunately she turned off the lights when I got on the bed so I could let my imagination go.

Anyways a promised 2 times turned out to be one rushed cbj (didnt want to go near the other area) and cost 500 in total, I'm not sure how they came to this total, I negotiated down to 200 with the girl but was too tired to bother.

Anyways I guess the service and quality has gone down since Mojo went a few years ago. Not recommended.

Jon

DayNight
10-20-05, 04:21
I am just back from GZ. I stayed in Panyu. Havn't been there for several years and was a bit lost. Anyway, meet a really cute girl (excellent English too!) as I left the bus which helped me to find a hotel next to her home.

The hotel was "Jin Hai An Hotel" 020/28642001 (no English, of course). Single room was rmb160. I would have loved to invite the very helpful girl for dinner, but I had already a date with my chatroom 'friend'.

She arrived after only 5 Minutes. She looks very nice, 26 years old, nice face, good figure. Since we have previously discussed staying in her place I didn't check in yet and we went for dinner. She mention that her English is not so good. But in fact it was limited to about 10 words or so. I had to use my really bad Chinese. Hard work for me! And really, 5 more such dates and I will be fluent!

After Dinner we went to her place. That was quite a place! 90sqm rmb300/month. 6th floor, no lift. Now, think of the very worst BBS apartment you have ever seen, now add plenty of old food dishes, half eaten noodle packs ets. She wanted me to sleep in of the elevated beds (no matrass, just a wooden board).

No hard feelings, and we went back to the hotel. Which is, BTW, for 160 a really good deal. First hotel in that price range with room safe!

She also wanted to stay in the hotel (which I fully understand considering her flat). But whe ask not to '...'. I try to press what she meant with '...', but she did not elaborate.

Anyway, the what I presumed was '...' did happened, and I also know now why she didn't want to do '...' - to avoid a bloody mess. But my fault, I ask for 'it'.

Of course you can not compare an amateur to a real pro. But it was a really nice and sweet experience. In fact, too nice and sweet, which can create too much emotional fall out. Next morning we woke up too late and had to rush out getting to work.

When I checked out from the hotel there was some discussion since we had created a 'japanese flag' on the bed sheet, but they let me go and returned the rmb100 deposit.



BTW, I presume the hotel is girl friendly from the light shy creatures I saw in the hall and in the lift. There is also a streetwalker hangout about 300m from the hotel.

Caron Demonio
10-20-05, 06:25
Oh well, so I am back in LOS after a nice biz trip to Guangdong. Thanks to the info of this forum and the help of some nice chinese folks, I did enjoy the week spent between Dongguan and Guanzhou

1 Dongguan

Parkview Hotel was a very nice place. Staff of the executive floor was really kind & friendly, rooms very generous and well decorated. Food was ok, Sauna & KTV offering plenty of nice girls, some with good english, they don't come cheap.

Funny part of my stay in Dongguan was the fact that the female sales manager of one of our supplier was trying to stick with me 24x7. We have something going on but hell she is quite a possessive one.

Oh, for the records, coming from LOS, I was really impressed by the number of girls with big tits I saw. What a combo: slim body + big tits. ! Almost forgot, one of our supplier took us to a sauna in Shekou. Usual routine of ice/hot BJ, good fuck etc. Girl I got was 19yo, really petit, fair skin, very nice breast, too bad she could not speak a word of English.

2 Guanzhou

Spent one night at Garden Hotel. Place sucks! Rooms at the executive floor are some of the smallest I saw in my life, useless staff, food was very bad No real action around the hotel as there were too many guards with sticks chasing away the candies. By the way, did not see anything worthy of attention. So, following the suggestion of one of our suppliers, off we went to Panyu. And after a long drive, we got to the Nansha Grand Hotel. Brand new but lost in the middle of nowhere. Well, actually is next to the bridge that takes to Dongguan and it's only 1 hour ferry from Hong Kong

Rooms were outstanding but action was nowhere to be seen. Even the KTV was too quite. A hotel catering to businessmen should always provide a good portfolio of entertainment for its guests!

Went to check out some local discos and saunas. Way too local for us. So I had to call my sweet friend from Dongguan and ask her to get a cab and joy me in Panyu. And hell she was happy to do so!

Will be back next month for some deeper research.

Fast Eddie 48
10-21-05, 22:08
I am just back from GZ. I stayed in Panyu. Havn't been there for several years and was a bit lost. Anyway, meet a really cute girl (excellent English too!) as I left the bus which helped me to find a hotel next to her home.

The hotel was "Jin Hai An Hotel" 020/28642001 (no English, of course). Single room was rmb160. I would have loved to invite the very helpful girl for dinner, but I had already a date with my chatroom 'friend'.

She arrived after only 5 Minutes. She looks very nice, 26 years old, nice face, good figure. Since we have previously discussed staying in her place I didn't check in yet and we went for dinner. She mention that her English is not so good. But in fact it was limited to about 10 words or so. I had to use my really bad Chinese. Hard work for me! And really, 5 more such dates and I will be fluent!


After Dinner we went to her place. That was quite a place! 90sqm rmb300/month. 6th floor, no lift. Now, think of the very worst BBS apartment you have ever seen, now add plenty of old food dishes, half eaten noodle packs ets. She wanted me to sleep in of the elevated beds (no matrass, just a wooden board).

No hard feelings, and we went back to the hotel. Which is, BTW, for 160 a really good deal. First hotel in that price range with room safe!

She also wanted to stay in the hotel (which I fully understand considering her flat). But whe ask not to '...'. I try to press what she meant with '...', but she did not elaborate.

Anyway, the what I presumed was '...' did happened, and I also know now why she didn't want to do '...' - to avoid a bloody mess. But my fault, I ask for 'it'.

Of course you can not compare an amateur to a real pro. But it was a really nice and sweet experience. In fact, too nice and sweet, which can create too much emotional fall out. Next morning we woke up too late and had to rush out getting to work.

When I checked out from the hotel there was some discussion since we had created a 'japanese flag' on the bed sheet, but they let me go and returned the rmb100 deposit.



BTW, I presume the hotel is girl friendly from the light shy creatures I saw in the hall and in the lift. There is also a streetwalker hangout about 300m from the hotel.

to daynight

jin hai an hotel
do you have adress of this place , is this close to panyu hotel 160 rmb is
cheap suprise no increase in price during the canton fair week .


thanks buddy
fast eddie 48

DayNight
10-22-05, 10:58
to daynight

jin hai an hotel
do you have adress of this place , is this close to panyu hotel 160 rmb is
cheap suprise no increase in price during the canton fair week .


thanks buddy
fast eddie 48

The jin hai an hotel is about 500m from the Panyu Hotel. A 5 to 10 Minutes walk. Call them, there is a number.... And yes, the rmb160 was during the fair.

Socratesque
10-22-05, 22:17
Fellow monger visiting GZ soon staying at the Marriott China Hotel. Please advise on possible good times here. Does the hotel suana provide action or is there a close place that can statisfy a need. What is a KTV and BBS please explain. Baber Shop and K TV doesn't explain much.

Weelock
10-23-05, 09:05
Socratesque:

Please read the threads, FAQ, rules, abbreviation, etc. There are located top of the webpage.


Fellow monger visiting GZ soon staying at the Marriott China Hotel. Please advise on possible good times here. Does the hotel suana provide action or is there a close place that can statisfy a need. What is a KTV and BBS please explain.

Heel Lover
10-23-05, 09:06
Fellow monger visiting GZ soon staying at the Marriott China Hotel. Please advise on possible good times here. Does the hotel suana provide action or is there a close place that can statisfy a need. What is a KTV and BBS please explain.

You should RTFF first, before you ask for directions or numbers. BTW, there is a section called "Abbreviations" on the top where you can find your answers.

Member #3434
10-24-05, 09:23
I also made it to the Ming Quan (or something like that) health center behind the Garden hotel. It seems its a legit massage place, dont know as the girl that i had did not offer anything else. Might be cause they were busy and she was not one of the regular girls but was actually one of the ear cleaners.... Yes i guess they have people who are there specifically to clean ears. Anyways the place was busy because of the rush of guests for the Canton fair so not sure what normally is offered.

Dunderhead
10-24-05, 13:33
Daynight: 'japanese flag' - classic, that is hilarious. Hope you gave her some money though, sounds like she could have used it.

Fast Eddie 48
10-25-05, 02:58
Daynight: 'japanese flag' - classic, that is hilarious. Hope you gave her some money though, sounds like she could have used it.

to day night

26 yr old virgin from the internet ,only in china baby can you imaged you get
this in the US you really be getting something special , i better get busy and
hit the interner to line up my freebie for my next trip , day night can you give
me the internet you used pm me please .

thanks
fast eddie 48

DayNight
10-25-05, 03:47
to day night

26 yr old virgin from the internet ,only in china baby can you imaged you get
this in the US you really be getting something special , i better get busy and
hit the interner to line up my freebie for my next trip , day night can you give
me the internet you used pm me please .

thanks
fast eddie 48

I didn't say she was a virgin. The timing was probably close to her period. I have to admit that I have very little experince with virgins (it's not my fetish), but I think there was far too much blood for a broken hymen.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

For the chat boards, Yahoo, MSN, QQ will do. But you have to get in through the Chinese sites.

Jonas Fun
10-25-05, 08:43
Sniffer:

Sorry for my late reply, have been travelling the last few days.

I paid 498 totally for 90 minutes Thai massage, and the HJ. You and OAH indicate that this is in the high end, but considering that it was Fair time, and that it was in Bay Yun Hotel (4 star), I think that is the price. I am not proud to admitt though, that I did not try to bargain the price for the HJ. Sorry, but I just forgot all about money, as she already had my dick in her hand...

Jonas

Tiiperi
10-25-05, 18:24
Hello everybody.

I have a problem. I have never been in guangzhou, and now my friend, who`s cambodian zitizen is visiting there, first time in china. She speaks poor english, and no chinese. Im worried that chinese will cheat her also.

I need to help her to find a budget price hotel / hostel. That should preferably be located in Tianhe district, near Citic plaza. It seems that all hotels has high prices this week because of fair in Guangzhou.

If you people have any ideas, I`d appreciate it.

Thanks in advance guys!

Bill Lee
10-25-05, 21:02
"Im worried that chinese will cheat her also."

Kind of racist and unkind to the Chinese. Come on, not all Chinese are going to cheat you. No one gonna cheat you if you stay at the Holiday Inn, Marriott or Sheraton. Even lower star hotels have posted rates most of the time behind the front desk.

If the Tianhe district is where I'm thinking of, there's a major bus stop there that many hotels and apartment complexes around GZ has buses going to.

First, what's your budget per night in US dollars or RMB? Otherwise my idea of a budget hotel is not the same as yours.

Bill



Hello everybody.

I have a problem. I have never been in guangzhou, and now my friend, who`s cambodian zitizen is visiting there, first time in china. She speaks poor english, and no chinese. Im worried that chinese will cheat her also.

I need to help her to find a budget price hotel / hostel. That should preferably be located in Tianhe district, near Citic plaza. It seems that all hotels has high prices this week because of fair in Guangzhou.

If you people have any ideas, I`d appreciate it.

Thanks in advance guys!

Savannah
10-26-05, 04:25
Is there anything going on in or around the silver river hotel? Not the star river, but the 3 star on 228 shatian (???). Thanx!

Tiiperi
10-26-05, 20:36
"Im worried that chinese will cheat her also."

Kind of racist and unkind to the Chinese. Come on, not all Chinese are going to cheat you. No one gonna cheat you if you stay at the Holiday Inn, Marriott or Sheraton. Even lower star hotels have posted rates most of the time behind the front desk.

If the Tianhe district is where I'm thinking of, there's a major bus stop there that many hotels and apartment complexes around GZ has buses going to.

First, what's your budget per night in US dollars or RMB? Otherwise my idea of a budget hotel is not the same as yours.

BillSorry that I gave wrong idea of my thinking about chinese. I know many chinese, have been living there, in SH, and I know that ~90% are ok., but I`ve also seen many dishonest, pocketpickers etc. They are also clever, and can see if someone is easy to take advance of.

I was asking about budget hotels. By that I ment rate about 30-40usd./d.
Another think I´d like to ask, is there some good travel agent near Citic plaza?

Thanks again!

By the way, nice forum this ISG.

OldAsiaHand
10-27-05, 16:09
How does the affect of the fair have on local area mongering? I went by the River Road in Panyu last night for a quick BBBJCIM on my way home. Normally, the price is 50-100 RMB. I was quoted 200 RMB right off the top. I countered with 100 RMB and was asked how long? She agreed at 100 for 15 minutes max. Can you believe it? First time, I've been given a time limit. She even checked the clock before she started.
After about 5 minutes, she told me no CIM. She does not do that for 100, but would if I coughed up 100 more. I refused this extortion. She countered with only 50 more. I was getting pissed off and losing interest so I just let go on her face. I told her that I was sorry but I could not control myself. She was not too pleased about it. I might have even given her a tip for CIM on my own if she had not been so verbally insistent about the extra money. I hope her attitude was just a result of the trade fair and not an indication of some permanent trend.

OAH

Cronin
10-28-05, 19:25
Savannah,

I've put up about a billion photos including a map to Sha Tai Lu and the little wonderland called He Shui Lu. Do your homework, a few searches and you'll discover them. You're only a 5 minute cab ride from Pimpland. I think its one of the best areas in Guangzhou and almost no one knows about it.

Cronin


Is there anything going on in or around the silver river hotel? Not the star river, but the 3 star on 228 shatian (???). Thanx!

OldAsiaHand
10-29-05, 06:07
"Closed by order of the Guangzhou Municipal License Bureau"

One of my favorite shops on Rte 105 in Panyu, and a couple of other shops on the same strip, were shut with a sign on the door. Lao Ban Yan had a few of her girls sitting around outside, playing cards and waiting for customers. She said it was "her turn" to be shut in order to make an appearance for the benefit of local residents. She will reopen the shop again next week.

Anyway, I picked a Hubei girl with a huge rack; 42D. She was a bit chunky but I wanted to do her Russian. We went up into the back of the shop from a side entrance. The service was just mediocre. She would only give me a 5 minute BBBJ until she complained she was tired. The FS; mish, doggy, cowgirl was only average, but the best part was the Russian/BBBJTC with a facial finish. This made up for the mediocrity!

Damage: 150 RMB. The local price is only 130 RMB if you are Chinese. I could insist but, in this particular shop, I reckon the extra 20 RMB lao wei surcharge usually gets me better service.

OAH

Cronin
10-29-05, 08:19
OK, so I've had a PM from a well respected senior member asking for more information on Sha Tai Lu.

I don't want to mention his name, but it begins with an E and ends with a K and theres an R and I in the middle somewhere.

Rather than lead him down Sha Tai Lu by his outstretched senior member (Ow, there's an image for you) I will post yet another map to this great little street. (All in good fun, Mr E, you handsome, witty, brute of a Man-About-Asia, give me a call we'll go there.)

The first image is a large map of Guangzhou, showing the area, page 4-5 in the map book. This is the far northern fringes of Guangzhou. Even though its to the east of Baiyun Mountain, its still considered to be in the Baiyun District.

The second image is page 4 in the map book, showing its relationship to the Tian He district and the route to take.

The third is a zoom on He Shui Cun (River Water Village). The purple Chinese Characters 河水村 mean He Shui Cun (pronounced Huh Shway Chun).

Fourth image is the little mall on the right side of the street which you will see just before you get to He Shui Lu.

He Shui Lu is a right turn off of Sha Tai Lu. There is a bus stop waiting area at the turn. There is a Gong An Security Gate (one of those wooden sticks with lines painted on it) at the entry to He Shui Lu. Just ignore it and them and walk around it, trust me, they don't want you.

Now the game is to try to walk all the way to the end of the street where the largest collection of girls are sitting around (at least they used to be, I haven't been out there for a couple months). I never make it to the end, my face is too well known and I get mobbed. You will get many approaches.

In the olden days last year, dozens of mamas would stand out on Sha Tai Lu waiting for customers to drive up in taxis. They have cooled that whole thing down now so you have to walk down He Shui Lu to get noticed.

This is a locals neighborhood again, but not quite as seedy as some of the others I've reported. But the point here is to try and avoid being too obvious, keep a low profile. That makes it more comfortable for the Gong An and the local residents and increases the chances this monger area will survive in-tact.

The routine is this: mamas will approach you and take you back to their fuck rooms, walk behind them, not next to them. Here you will sit and watch TV while they go find the girls and bring them back for your inspection. There are hundreds of girls here, one mama told us 300 working girls lived in the area. Each cycle tends to be about 10 minutes or so and there will only be 2 or 3 girls in each line up.

Some of the apartments are nice, others are rat holes. Once again, I don't know if I can feel good about recommending this place to a Marketing Guy on his first trip to China. This is not exactly Mongering 101.

Locals rates are probably 80, foreign Chinese 135 and white guys 150-200 depending. I pay 200. One of the reasons I like this place is that I have never once been turned down for photos. And here is one of the best: (fifth image is a new print of a previously posted image of Miao Miao, totally great girl).

Cronin

Bill Lee
10-29-05, 15:21
I don't want to mention his name, but it begins with an E and ends with a K and theres an R and I in the middle somewhere.

Who the hell is EIRK?

Blil

Tinybobo1002
10-30-05, 01:51
Sorry that I gave wrong idea of my thinking about chinese. I know many chinese, have been living there, in SH, and I know that ~90% are ok., but I`ve also seen many dishonest, pocketpickers etc. They are also clever, and can see if someone is easy to take advance of.

I was asking about budget hotels. By that I ment rate about 30-40usd./d.
Another think I´d like to ask, is there some good travel agent near Citic plaza?

Thanks again!

By the way, nice forum this ISG.

30 to 40 usd is about 300 rmb, sufficient to find a 3 star clean hotel everywhere in China, perhaps except Shanghai and Beijing. The beauty of a 3 star hotel is where the actions are. Go find yours via elong.com or ctrip.com

Tinybobo1002
10-30-05, 01:57
to day night

26 yr old virgin from the internet ,only in china baby can you imaged you get
this in the US you really be getting something special , i better get busy and
hit the interner to line up my freebie for my next trip , day night can you give
me the internet you used pm me please .

thanks
fast eddie 48


26 yr old virgin? Nowadays, Chinese fuck like crazy. A 26 year old virgin may be very ugly or mentally very ill to maintain her virginity. don't forget in China girls can reinstall their virginity at a local clinic at a cost of 1500 rmb.

I am quite experience in Internet freebies. It takes time and they are not free. They tend to be more mature and always have a hidden agenda. Play smart.

DayNight
10-31-05, 03:31
26 yr old virgin? Nowadays, Chinese fuck like crazy. A 26 year old virgin may be very ugly or mentally very ill to maintain her virginity. don't forget in China girls can reinstall their virginity at a local clinic at a cost of 1500 rmb.

I am quite experience in Internet freebies. It takes time and they are not free. They tend to be more mature and always have a hidden agenda. Play smart.

Just back from GZ/Panyu again... Same hotel, again RMB160 during GZ fair. My freeby was not a virgin. First time was near period time, hence the blood. If she would have told me 'Yue Jing' I would not have touched her at all. But she probably knew that.....

My freeby does not have a "hidden agenda" at all. She is very openly in love and would like me stay with her.

I have to admit that I am not really used to girlfriends. P4P has really huge advantages. Freebies can cause quite a bit of emotional stress. I mean, I can still like a girl, it's not just the sex.....

That's why, when you are into freebies you MUST have a prepared exit strategy! Change your chat ID often, keep a record of whom you chat to. Come up with a story which is acceptable to the girl too!

I would suggest:

Tell them you are married in the beginning (you still get plenty of freebies)
Tell them you have to return to your country

Other suggestions are welcome!

Cebu Local
11-03-05, 00:59
Hi After RTFF before asking
I will be in Guangzhou for the first time ever for a hotel live in conference at the Ramada Pearl.The problem is my conservative Religous Filipino Business Partner is going with me and will be occupying the room beside me.Are there any suggestions for a nearby mongering places to visit??I dont want to bother him with any noises,companions from take home or room service,Plus being a live in conference,I cant be away more then 2-3 hours.OAH,I will be in from the 21st to the 23rd,If you want to hook up.I am open to ideas from the pros for solutions to this little problem from the China masters..The BBS option is Difficult since I dont speak chinese,Maybe MP ....

DayNight
11-03-05, 03:36
The problem is my conservative Religous Filipino Business Partner is going with me and will be occupying the room beside me.

Maybe you suddenly don't like the room anymore after check in? A/C to noisy? View not nice? Check in first, then go down and change the room and tell your church a compelling lie.

Window does not point to the vatican works best with stupid church people.

Firedick
11-03-05, 06:30
I would trust Cronin on this board. We hung out in BKK on his first trip.

Cronin, Cebu Local is a good guy.


Day Night,

Ouch. Not all religious folks are idiots you know. I am not either (I hope) but take a little offense at your "shotgun approach".

FD

OldAsiaHand
11-04-05, 11:31
Cebu Local:

Last time I was by there (before the trade show), Ramada BBS 1 & 4 were open for business. They get a lot of foreign trade so you should get by without Chinese there. There have been recent reports on this thread of more shops open, but Johnnykon tells me this was not so as of last week.

The Ramada beer bar or whatever it is on the 2nd/ Mezzanine floor always has a few talents available, but a bit pricey. I was quoted 700 ST the last time I wandered in there, but I did not try to bargain. I reckon some of them will go for 500 RMB.

Most saunas (MP) in GZ are HJ only, included in the package. They run 198-288 depending on the place. FS is harder to find. Closest ones to the Ramada are probably in TianHe.

I should be around. Just call my mobile. We will grab Cronin and he can show you the "seedier" side of town!

OAH










Hi After RTFF before asking
I will be in Guangzhou for the first time ever for a hotel live in conference at the Ramada Pearl.The problem is my conservative Religous Filipino Business Partner is going with me and will be occupying the room beside me.Are there any suggestions for a nearby mongering places to visit??I dont want to bother him with any noises,companions from take home or room service,Plus being a live in conference,I cant be away more then 2-3 hours.OAH,I will be in from the 21st to the 23rd,If you want to hook up.I am open to ideas from the pros for solutions to this little problem from the China masters..The BBS option is Difficult since I dont speak chinese,Maybe MP ....

Cebu Local
11-04-05, 12:30
Cebu Local:

Last time I was by there (before the trade show), Ramada BBS 1 & 4 were open for business. They get a lot of foreign trade so you should get by without Chinese there. There have been recent reports on this thread of more shops open, but Johnnykon tells me this was not so as of last week.

The Ramada beer bar or whatever it is on the 2nd/ Mezzanine floor always has a few talents available, but a bit pricey. I was quoted 700 ST the last time I wandered in there, but I did not try to bargain. I reckon some of them will go for 500 RMB.

Most saunas (MP) in GZ are HJ only, included in the package. They run 198-288 depending on the place. FS is harder to find. Closest ones to the Ramada are probably in TianHe.

I should be around. Just call my mobile. We will grab Cronin and he can show you the "seedier" side of town!

OAHThanks OAH
I will give you a call as soon as I get in,Yes 700 ST is kinda steep for GZ,Do they think they are in HK?Lookinf forward to the seedier part of town,You know from our last meeting,I tend to be stuck uptown Cheers

Savannah
11-08-05, 14:16
I checked out the sha tai lu area. I think i was early. I spent so much effort walking to the place that after i found it i decided to just head back to the hotel for a massage. So, no action. Everything was ok at the hotel though. There is normal massage on the second floor. No action and not recommended. Then, there is the sauna. The sauna itself sucks. i will never get used to men following me around and waiting for me to finish showering or steam. After that, tv room. relaxing.Then, off to bang bang room. Excellent massage! The girl was not attractive though. I just took the handjob. She offered to come to the room, i declined. 140 sauna. 100 tip girl.

The good thing about the hotel is the barbershop. Inside the hotel, i didn't go to the one outside. In the day they cut your hair. At night, full service. Mother's first price was 200. The girls look 18-20. Some are cute but not necessarily pretty. The service was nice both times. I asked for bj once but she seemed reluctant, so i did her doggie for a long time. next time, i think she'll do bj.

This is my first post. I am new to China and will be here a long time. i love being a man in Asia. I would like to go to KTV. My Chinese is soso, and i am a little nervous to go alone. If anyone ever wants to hook up, pm me.

Stay safe out there

Tristan36
11-10-05, 13:22
Dear fellow members in Guangzhou,

Probably, I still have not learnt how to move in China. Also, I am not confident with my ability talking Chinese-very low level. But after many months in Guangzhou I still haven't found what I am looking for.

*BBS- I do not feel safe going to some areas at night.

*Garden Hotel area- There is some action but not the kind of girls I like.

*Saunas- They are the legit ones. Very good ones. They are the ones that charge extra for hj. And there are the ones that people say that exist and have hj included and I did not found.

*KTV. Usually I move alone and have not found one that accepts 1 person only.

*Clubs, I like some of the girls playing dice and around but I really do not get in how to deal the situation. I do not know how to differentiate the ones going out and ones not.

I come from a country where everything is much easier. Even in HK is possible without effort.

Yet in Guangzhou I found quite difficult.

I will keep studying the city. Please, keep safe.

Moody
11-10-05, 16:50
Why don't you just go to Changping? It's only 30 minutes on the train. You can't miss in Changping, whether your preference is BBS, sauna, or KTV. If you want to make sure the girl will go back with you from either BBS or KTV, tell the mommy the following:

"Wo xiang nuhaer he wo ichi qu jiudian."

Translated, it means "I want the girl and me together go to hotel." Don't worry, they won't misunderstand.

Moody


Dear fellow members in Guangzhou,

Probably, I still have not learnt how to move in China. Also, I am not confident with my ability talking Chinese-very low level. But after many months in Guangzhou I still haven't found what I am looking for.

*BBS- I do not feel safe going to some areas at night.

*Garden Hotel area- There is some action but not the kind of girls I like.

*Saunas- They are the legit ones. Very good ones. They are the ones that charge extra for hj. And there are the ones that people say that exist and have hj included and I did not found.

*KTV. Usually I move alone and have not found one that accepts 1 person only.

*Clubs, I like some of the girls playing dice and around but I really do not get in how to deal the situation. I do not know how to differentiate the ones going out and ones not.

I come from a country where everything is much easier. Even in HK is possible without effort.

Yet in Guangzhou I found quite difficult.

I will keep studying the city. Please, keep safe.

Kockanadoo
11-12-05, 09:02
Hi Guys,

I am new to this forum. I have been living in GZ for half a year and just starting to explore this place, I received alot of namecards recommending outtakes. It is safe?

Superforce99
11-13-05, 09:17
This is a quick report with some GZ info people might/might now find
useful about adult DVDs, Road of Gold Update, and Fangcun details.

In case anyone wants a sure location for adult DVDs, there is a pedestrian
overpass on the corner of Shuiyin Road and Huanshi Road, about 1 minute's
walk from the McDonalds near the south gate of the GZ zoo. Starting at
about 6-7pm, there are about 5 guys who man the overpass pushing porn
DVDs. Mostly western and some asian, quality is hit or miss, 5 RMB each.
It's gotten to the point where they recognize me and I laugh when they
offer and they laugh when I refuse, but anyway, if you guys really need
porn...

Also the chance to walk around Road of Gold the past two nights at about
12 midnight - 1am period. So, if it hasn't been said before...it's COMPLETELY
DEAD. Just cross it off your mongering list. It's even more well-lit than
the last time I saw it, and of the dozen people on the street, 8 of them
were security guys; 2 sitting at the beginning of the road, 2 sitting in the
middle, 2 sitting at the end, AND 2 on walking patrol. The only other people
were a handful of foreigners slowly wondering with a "where the hell are the
girls??" look on their faces. Ha ha...gotta update your info, guys! So, R.I.P.
Road of Gold (Tao Jin Bei Road)...one additional detail is that I did see a
taxiload of 4 Africans get off and go into the massage place down the road
from the Kama Club, just before the tunnel onto Tao Jin Dong. I've gotten
massage a couple of times at that place before and it's not that clean,
and not that professional, and I definately heard an African getting a loud,
appreciated handjob the last time I was there a couple of months ago. So,
if HJ is your thing, I'm 100% sure this place is a spot...

Last thing is that I went down to the Fangcun area, following Cronin's directions.
I couldn't really follow them and didn't really see anything beyond a couple of
random street walkers so I used my Cantonese and chatted with a couple of motorcycle
guys till I found a moto guy who actually lived in the area. He brought me to
Guang Rong Street (光蓉路...I am working on hazy memory on the actual Chinese
characters, but the Pinyin is right) right near "New Focus Disco". It was about 5
minutes by motocycle, so can beconsidered a long walk or short taxi ride. The Chinese
name of the Disco is something like this: 新_点酒吧 ; sorry I forgot the missing character.
Moto man said there are usually 100's of girls on the perpendicular and parallel streets
on most nights (my feeling is no way, not inside GZ city limits...) but, ofcourse, on
that particular night, there were only about 10-15 street walkers. If Cronin's latest pic
of Ms. White is judged as a "7", then quality varied from 4-8. Pretty good considering
they were street walkers. Got quotes of 100-200 RMB for ST. The whole trip to this point
had taken more than 1 hour from my place to this place by subway and I was out of time
since going back would take another hour, and my schedule doesn't allow a whole lotta
2-3 hour holes. Will go back sometime in the next couple of days and report.

Stay safe.


Johnny

Weelock
11-13-05, 10:30
Read somewhere for Adult DVDs, there is a huge huge fine if caught. It was talked about in the general thread or Living in China a while back. What might happen is they might X-Ray your bags, at major bus stations, train stations, airports or at borders. If they see something weird, they will ask you to open your bags. If it's a blank, they might play it inside and you will be in trouble, sorry. If you do buy any, suggest removing the covers from the DVDs. I believe the fine also goes with adult magazines. From what I gather, it's stricter in southern part China than northern.

For my own experience, I was with some friends getting on a bus. We were stopped after going thru a X-Ray machine. Fortunately, we just had only computer program on CDs and regular movies.


Weelock

PS. We were also stopped NOT at the new airport but the OLD airport in Canton ( Guangzhou ). That was about 4 year ago.

Tristan36
11-13-05, 12:15
I did not follow Moody's advice and I did not go to Changpin.

I did check the Ramada shops. The good news are that they are open. At least 2 and a Massage place between them which I did not enter in.

The bad news are the quality of the service is really bad. I entered the one that it is farther from the Ramada Hotel. There were 5 girls there and it seems that the mamasan was not there. Actually, they were not very eager of working. I should have leave then by I insisted. Then they decided that one was going to offer me the service. They asked me 50rmb at front I gave them and I follow that girl. We were walking around 200m through the streets until an apartment. Quite dirty. She told me 200rmb and I say that at the end. Really bad HJ, she refuses BJ, I got up set with me thinking I am an idiot. Finally, she gives me a condom. We practice doggy. What the hell since I am there I finish!

Really bad experience. Total damage 250rmb. Probably I did something wrong but I would not recomend that place to anybody.

Play safe!

Superforce99
11-13-05, 17:06
Perhaps others have had bad luck with DVDs, but in my years of travelling
on trains, buses, and airplanes, especially between GZ-SZ, I have never had
even 1 problem and I've had as many as 100 DVDs in a DVD sleeve case.
Especially if you have related things like laptop or CD player, nobody should
give you an extra attention. Also, be sure not be holding a couple of empty
shoeboxes with "5 元 一片" scrawled on the side and not to have a whole
stack of color-photocopied of DVD jackets, those are pretty suspicious if
you're going to be transporting pirate DVDs around...

One extra note for those paranoid among us (and there are plenty...), if you
decide to take a bus, you will NEVER have to scan your bags....you could
literally transport drugs, cash, explosives, babies...anything in this manner
and I'm sure it happens. Using a duffel bag, I transported my puppy one time,
my cat one time, and a large amount of cash one time using this method
without a hitch...when I let out the pets eventually, the bus attendant gave
me a "What the hell?!" look, but then nothing more....All those things listed
above will definately be flagged if you transport them by train or airplane,
ofcourse; so you decide what's your purpose: quick transport or long transport-
but-you-can-stash-anything-you-want transport?

Good luck, and keep that grey economy moving and flowing...

J

Cronin
11-14-05, 02:11
Johnny,

I went back to find Jia Jia last friday and she wasn't in the same location. That street, by the way was Rong Xing Lu. I remember we had walked around that same street and the whole area a couple years ago and saw nothing.

I had to get in a taxi and ask again to take me to the girls. They had moved to the end of the street where it T's into another street, the one you mentioned with the Disco. All the girls were right there, same set, you saw them.

Apparently, the mama is somewhat nomadic to avoid local residents making a complaint. Next week she'll probably be in a different location again.

I know there must be more in that area somewhere. One mama with one set of girls? I don't know, that just doesn't sound right. I did a walk to the east side of Huadi Dadao through the back streets, but didn't even see a BBS.

Anyway, I did finally find Jia Jia and opted to take her all the way back to my apartment instead of going to the ST hotel. Taxi fare was horrendous, but when you consider that I would have paid the hotel room 50, I guess a little less horrendous. It was certainly a lot more fun at my house.

I did spot the BBS section somebody mentioned in Zhujiangxincheng. There is a street which goes right along the Zhujiang. It runs from Guangzhou Dadao at the bridge to the Panyu Bridge. To the north would be Huangpu Dadao paralleling it. I can't remember the exact name of the street and I don't want to guess it here and be wrong.

Anyway, I was coming back from exploring Kecun (more about that some other time) and the moto took this street off Guangzhou Dadao heading east, right along the river. As we were zooming along I noticed this little two or three block area to the left of me (so facing the river) which had all the hallmarks of a good mongering area.

Is that the place? I don't really know, its been at the top of my "to explore" list, but haven't had a chance to get back there. I don't know the cross street, so when I go back, I will have to tell the driver to just go along the river until I see it again. Should be hard to miss at 10-11 at night, because there's not much in that area until you hit that little neighborhood. It has little sidewalk restaurants and what appeared to be a little catacomb in back of the main street. Worth a check.

Cronin

OldAsiaHand
11-18-05, 15:44
I don't know what they call this area, but I stopped with Cronin for a quickie on my way home. Most of the BBS had been closed in the area since we were there a couple of months ago. Cronin knew where some mamas were working an alley in the back. I found one tall, 172, girl from Yunnan. Surprisingly, she gave me fire/ice BBBJ; followed by CFS. I did not take any pills so I did not waste any time popping before I lost it.

OAH

Ermano69
11-19-05, 17:43
Hello, I will be travelling on the 25th to Hoongkong, arriving at 17:00 local ltime. Can you gime me some advice what is the best to travel to Guangzhou from there. By bus or to take a plane. The plane according to China Southern is only leaving after 20:00 so more then 3 hours waiting at the airport.

Thanks for help,

Ermano

Bill Lee
11-20-05, 04:05
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=394799#post394799

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=394730&postcount=976

BTW, where in Guangzhou are you headed to? Maybe someone else can give you more specific directions.

Bill


Hello, I will be travelling on the 25th to Hoongkong, arriving at 17:00 local ltime. Can you gime me some advice what is the best to travel to Guangzhou from there. By bus or to take a plane. The plane according to China Southern is only leaving after 20:00 so more then 3 hours waiting at the airport.

Thanks for help,

Ermano

Ermano69
11-20-05, 09:03
Hi Bill,

Thank very much for this information. I used to take the bus when I went to Shenzen earlier this year. I didnt now about this VIP business and provided it will not cost a fortune it might be worthwile to take this one.

I guess defintely not to take the plane, since waiting in HKG for 3 hours, means I am almost in GZ by that time.

Ermano

Cebu Local
11-20-05, 09:42
Hello, I will be travelling on the 25th to Hoongkong, arriving at 17:00 local ltime. Can you gime me some advice what is the best to travel to Guangzhou from there. By bus or to take a plane. The plane according to China Southern is only leaving after 20:00 so more then 3 hours waiting at the airport.

Thanks for help,

ErmanoOK Here s what I would do,From the HKIA take the Airport express and you will be in Kowloon station in 20 minutes,then take the free shutttle bus included in your ticket to the KCR train Station in Hung Hom,The last train for Guangzhou leaves at 7.15PM so you should catch it.You clear China Immigration in Hong Kong then the train goes straight to Guangzhou taking 1 hour 45 minutes,no more stop at the border.Ticket cost is about 200 HK dollars compared to roughly triple by plane.I am taking the train tommorow myself from HK to GZ,right after my flight from the PI.

DayNight
11-20-05, 10:34
There are busses from HK Airport to China. Check the HK Airport website.


Hello, I will be travelling on the 25th to Hoongkong, arriving at 17:00 local ltime. Can you gime me some advice what is the best to travel to Guangzhou from there. By bus or to take a plane. The plane according to China Southern is only leaving after 20:00 so more then 3 hours waiting at the airport.

Thanks for help,

Ermano

Moonlite Cat
11-20-05, 10:59
Hello All,

I will be travelling to GZ in december and I'm looking for hotel suggestions.
I thought about staying at the Garden Hotel but I read many bad reviews about it (small and old rooms) so I thought about one close to it. By searching the net I found in the area the Asia International, BaiYun, Guandong International, Holiday Inn, Ocean Hotel and Ocean Plaza.

Are they really close to the Garden ? Does anyone has informations about them and about their room ?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Ermano69
11-20-05, 15:58
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=394799#post394799

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=394730&postcount=976

BTW, where in Guangzhou are you headed to? Maybe someone else can give you more specific directions.

BillBill,

I have booked the Garden Hotel in GZ. The first time I am in the Garden, wanted to try this one, hope I am not disappointed.

Member #1210
11-20-05, 16:01
Try this website.

http://www.hongkongairport.com/CBT/Controller?locale=eng

Bill Lee
11-22-05, 04:33
Some action around the blocks. But it's off and on.

One of the bus companies, either gogo or cts at HK airport stops at the Garden Hotel. See my link for the bus travel info. Ask them at the airport who stops directly at Garden Hotel. About a 3.75 hour bus ride. Quite scenic along the way to Guangzhou.

Hotel is not girl-friendly after 11 p.m. Across the street where Starbuck and McDonald is, is a local Internet game room. Cost about 5rmb an hour to use the Internet. It's located straight down the lower level where McDonald is located at and one block to the back on the right. Large glass door. Walk in and give them 20rmb and they will give you card to open your session on the Internet. About 40 computers there. They will return the difference of 20rmb, depending on your hourly usage.

Bring your laundry to the laundry store next to the bus office on the side of the building and save alittle money on the bill.

Good area to pick for first time visitor. Lots to do in the area. Many interesting places within walking distance.

When will you be leaving?

Bill



Bill,

I have booked the Garden Hotel in GZ. The first time I am in the Garden, wanted to try this one, hope I am not disappointed.

Bill Lee
11-22-05, 04:36
I'm not sure if VIP van still exists or not. Last time there in June, I didn't see them at the airport but I really didn't look hard. But bus is just as good and will stop at the Garden Hotel. Can't beat door to door service.

From what I remember, VIP van was only 50 HK dollar more than bus. And since there's less people on the van, there's less stops. But if you have five van passengers and they all have different stops, it's just as bad as the buses. Go with the bus, it's safer and the bus employees will keep you on track providing you don't lose that paper badge they stick to your shirt.

Bill



Hi Bill,

Thank very much for this information. I used to take the bus when I went to Shenzen earlier this year. I didnt now about this VIP business and provided it will not cost a fortune it might be worthwile to take this one.

I guess defintely not to take the plane, since waiting in HKG for 3 hours, means I am almost in GZ by that time.

Ermano

Bill Lee
11-22-05, 04:43
I have stayed at Baiyun, Holiday Inn and Garden Hotel, all in walking distance of each other. About ten minutes or less. All three hotels are basically not girl-friendly after 11 p.m.

Garden Hotel is 5 star hotel whereas BY and HI are 3 to 4 stars. I like the rooms at HI better than BY. When I stayed at BY, they were renovating about a year or two ago. Also, they had limited king size bed then. Even though I booked for king size, I was stuck with two twin beds.

All three hotels are located on the same main road. BY and GH faces each other.

HI is located about five minute walk on the side of BY. HI is also located right next to a side street where there are about 5 to 10 drinking bars. But I think they are bars for locals. Never been to any of the bars.

Asia International is about 2 to 5 years old. New and modern, never stayed there or visited it. So no opinon on the rest.

Good luck.

Bill


Hello All,

I will be travelling to GZ in december and I'm looking for hotel suggestions.
I thought about staying at the Garden Hotel but I read many bad reviews about it (small and old rooms) so I thought about one close to it. By searching the net I found in the area the Asia International, BaiYun, Guandong International, Holiday Inn, Ocean Hotel and Ocean Plaza.

Are they really close to the Garden ? Does anyone has informations about them and about their room ?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

OldAsiaHand
11-22-05, 07:25
The VIP vans are still available. There is a counter for a new company on the left side of "A" exit just before you go out into the arrival hall. Then, the girls in the red suits are still offering the same service in the arrival hall itself. I think GZ is around 250 HK$. SZ is only 150 HK$


OAH




I'm not sure if VIP van still exists or not. Last time there in June, I didn't see them at the airport but I really didn't look hard. But bus is just as good and will stop at the Garden Hotel. Can't beat door to door service.

From what I remember, VIP van was only 50 HK dollar more than bus. And since there's less people on the van, there's less stops. But if you have five van passengers and they all have different stops, it's just as bad as the buses. Go with the bus, it's safer and the bus employees will keep you on track providing you don't lose that paper badge they stick to your shirt.

Bill

Transporter
11-22-05, 07:45
The VIP service still exists, I use it on every trip.
However, it is better to call and book a reservation.
The one I use is the Kong Fung Co.
(0769) 368 5708
0769-3388158
0769-3387383

Ermano69
11-22-05, 16:57
I will be in GZ from this coming Friday evening, 25.11.05, till Monday. I am together with my mate from the UK.

Are you there as well?

Ermano

Cebu Local
11-23-05, 13:08
Hi All
I was attending a conference with my conservative Filipino Business Partner,So using directions from OAH,I was quickly able to make my way from the Ramada to the Ramada BBS.This being due to the fact that being a live in conference,I could only slip away for a few hours,But with his guidance I found them.Unfortunately not being Chinese Speaking,I had to factor in Language ability not wanting a partner communicating only by sign language.So I got a pair a 5-6 and a 6-7 mostly because they spoke some English.Not wanting to have them in dirty backroom,I opted to overpay,I was already scolded by OAH for this,But I was staying at a 21st floor Riverview Executive Suite room which was certainly a much better enviroment tthen a backroom.So for 1000 RMB or 500 each,I had the pair come over and had them from 5.30 pm to 10pm.Yes I am sorry for overpaying,But after seeing my room the girls would not budge even after 10 minutes of haggling.But hell 3 shots with two girls in comfy bed overlooking the river is something I could live with.I paid for the ambiance I guess.Thanks again OAH .

OldAsiaHand
11-23-05, 14:47
Cebu Local:

I will not scold you any more. I should have told you how much to pay when I told you where the shops were. Anyway, considering you had them for 4.5 hours, 3 pops, it wasn't a completely ridiculous price. And, you were happy! That's what counts, my friend. But, for the sake of the rest of us, please, please, do not pay that much again. I would estimate somewhere between 500-600 RMB, for your escapades back at the Ramada since they stayed much longer than a standard one pop for 150RMB. My calculation:

100/girl for the house
200/girl for the service

OAH




Hi All
I was attending a conference with my conservative Filipino Business Partner,So using directions from OAH,I was quickly able to make my way from the Ramada to the Ramada BBS.This being due to the fact that being a live in conference,I could only slip away for a few hours,But with his guidance I found them.Unfortunately not being Chinese Speaking,I had to factor in Language ability not wanting a partner communicating only by sign language.So I got a pair a 5-6 and a 6-7 mostly because they spoke some English.Not wanting to have them in dirty backroom,I opted to overpay,I was already scolded by OAH for this,But I was staying at a 21st floor Riverview Executive Suite room which was certainly a much better enviroment tthen a backroom.So for 1000 RMB or 500 each,I had the pair come over and had them from 5.30 pm to 10pm.Yes I am sorry for overpaying,But after seeing my room the girls would not budge even after 10 minutes of haggling.But hell 3 shots with two girls in comfy bed overlooking the river is something I could live with.I paid for the ambiance I guess.Thanks again OAH .

Rob Deniro
11-24-05, 12:52
Hi all,

I have been reading the thread recently but did not find any threads about the Guangdong Victory Hotel (4 stars), Shamian North Street.

I will be there in february. Can anyone tell me if it is girl-friendly? What i also want to know : is it that bad that the girl is registered after 11 pm ? Because i will allways be late in the hotel to get some action.

What about the neighberhood for this hotel : BBS ? Sauna/Massage ? SW to pick up ?

May thx in advance

Rob

DayNight
11-24-05, 14:50
What hotel you suggest in Panyu?

I saw the Panyu Hotel is now 380 - any other/better option for a lower price?

Cronin
11-24-05, 19:05
RD,

As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing on Shamian. Perhaps someone else knows differently, but I'd be surprised. No FS BBS, thats for sure, not the right kind of neighborhood. I've never seen any SW on Shamian either, although there are many hotels and foreigners. It is a big tourist area, but the tourists tend to be American families with newly adopted Chinese kids.

Just off the island, there's a couple places you might check out, depending on how much courage you have. The main street along the river by the ferry pier is Yanjing Lu. The first main north south street is Renmin Lu. If you walk up Renmin on the right side (east side) turn right on the first street. This street is one block long. On the north side of this little street is 2 or 3 BBS, at least one of these used to be FS. These shops service the little 3 star hotels on Renmin Lu which are favorites of Hong Kongers. Are these shops still there? I saw them a year ago, why don't you go find out and report back? I'd love to know, myself.

Further up on Renmin Lu is a lot more action, but it takes a lot more courage. There are many SW on the west side of Renmin Lu several blocks up from Yanjing Lu. If I were you, I would not go there alone. This is one of worst areas in Guangzhou, almost anything could happen. The SW's I talked to were cheap, but hard as nails. If you insist on going here, at least go in a Taxi and don't get out. Take her back to your hotel.

Is the Victory girl friendly? Again, I would doubt it, but I don't know for certain (never stayed there, have never heard anything). Discretely ask the doorman, he'll be able to tell you.

That doesn't leave you with many options, but the good news is that you are only minutes from FangCun, right across the river. If I were you, staying on Shamian, I wouldn't go anywhere else. Check the recent posts on that subject. Take the Metro which is just off Shamian Island on the west side and you are only 1 stop from the Fangcun Exit.

Cronin

Weelock
11-24-05, 21:11
What hotel you suggest in Panyu?

I saw the Panyu Hotel is now 380 - any other/better option for a lower price?

I stayed at a hotel called "Yu Yuan" for about $250RMB for 3 nights. I don't recall the exact amount but for sure it's less than 380RMB. The place was remodeled about 1 year ago, nice dark furniture, new carpet and new bathroom fixtures. It has about 8 floors and across the street from the Panyu Hotel, a five star. There is a sigal on front for "Yu Yuan". So tell the taxi to go to Panyu Hotel then finding "Yu Yuan" is easy. Don't know for sure if it's 100% girl friendly after 11pm. If I had to guess, I would say YES.

Another option is a new hotel, 4 star on the same block, just next door to Panyu Hotel. It was being remodel and was due to finish in a week when I was in Panyu in June 2005. Guys in front were trying to push it since they saw my luggage but it was still being worked on. Sorry don't know the name. They had special grand opening price that was cheaper than the Panyu Hotel. In addition, they added discount coupons to places with a stay. It's nicer than "Yu Yuan". All these hotels are walking distance to a nice KTV around the block or about 3 mins away.



The link is for Panyu Hotel NOT for "Yu Yuan".

http://www.cbw.com/hotel/py-panyu/

Boss
11-25-05, 04:26
RD,

Are you staying at the New Victory or the Old Victory? They are about a 2 minute walk from each other. I stayed at the New Victory a very long time ago and it was girl friendly. Best of all, they had a side elevator so you didn't have to walk through the main lobby.

They also have a massage/sauna in the basement(directly across from the restaurant) and it is FS. Just be careful because they charge you a lot for every little thing they offer(i.e., tea).

Also, the hair salon just next to the sauna offers outcall massage in your room. Some girls will do FS, some just a hand finish. They also offer incall massage, but it is just straight massage.

It is all rather expensive compared to the local talent you should be able to go out and find, if you are so inclined.

Boss

Rob Deniro
11-25-05, 11:24
Thx Bob & Cronin for yr reply. Most helpfull.

I think i will folow yr advice Cronin about visiting Fangcun district. I already found it on a map i have. Only a search on keyword 'Fangcun' in these threads did not give me any info. To which threads were you refering to Cronin?

Bst rgds,

Rob

OldAsiaHand
11-25-05, 14:40
DayNight,

There is another hotel about two blocks from Panyu Hotel on Dabei Lu that MpsLover stayed at for only 160 RMB. I forget the name, if it even had one, but it is on the same side of the road in the direction of the McDonalds next to the Panyu Hotel.

OAH


What hotel you suggest in Panyu?

I saw the Panyu Hotel is now 380 - any other/better option for a lower price?

Fast Eddie 48
11-25-05, 22:39
DayNight,

There is another hotel about two blocks from Panyu Hotel on Dabei Lu that MpsLover stayed at for only 160 RMB. I forget the name, if it even had one, but it is on the same side of the road in the direction of the McDonalds next to the Panyu Hotel.

OAH


TO OAH

jin hai an hotel 160 rmb that the one DAY/NIGHT stay at back in oct -19 pst
never stay there is near panyu hotel like to try it next time phone number is
# 020-28642001 , if panyu is only 380 that is a good deal very nice hotel with
nice graden little run down 4 star with sauna and a western bar with freelance
try to stay there in sep they are sold out so i stay across the st in yu yuan
the hotel weelock mention is a 3 star motel very poor service and reception
don,t speak any english nor cantonese and the room is dirty , Should pay a
little more and stay at panyu or bravo hotel.

fast eddie 48

Weelock
11-26-05, 00:42
TO OAH

jin hai an hotel 160 rmb that the one DAY/NIGHT stay at back in oct -19 pst
never stay there is near panyu hotel like to try it next time phone number is
# 020-28642001 , if panyu is only 380 that is a good deal very nice hotel with
nice graden little run down 4 star with sauna and a western bar with freelance
try to stay there in sep they are sold out so i stay across the st in yu yuan
the hotel weelock mention is a 3 star motel very poor service and reception
don,t speak any english nor cantonese and the room is dirty , Should pay a
little more and stay at panyu or bravo hotel.

fast eddie 48

Hi Fast Eddie,

I would agree that's Yu Yuan is a 3 star hotel and the Panyu Hotel is a little run down. For the rooms are dirty? I was at Yu Yuan in early June and it was newly remodeled and clean. I guess they didn't clean the rooms for 4 months. Do you recall how much you paid at Yu Yuan? It sounds like Jin Hai An Hotel is much better and cheaper?

Thanks,

Weelock

DayNight
11-26-05, 06:05
I was staying the Jin Hai An Hotel last time for rmb160. It's run down and functions also as a hourly place (based on the females I saw in the lift an lobby). In that respect it's DEFINiTELY girl friendly!

But last time was the GZ fair and the Panyu Hotel was US$100. GZ Fair is over and prices are again rock bottom.

For the Panyu Hotel the rmb380 is the price thay advertize on their website. I guess you can squeeze them down a bit more. A chat girl I know from Panyu has there a corp rate of rmb200 - but is not willing to make a booking for me...

OAH, if the name of the place opposite Panyu Hotel comes to your mind let me know. There is also another 3-Star opposite, Qian ??? Hotel or something like that....

Fast Eddie 48
11-26-05, 08:38
Hi Fast Eddie,

I would agree that's Yu Yuan is a 3 star hotel and the Panyu Hotel is a little run down. For the rooms are dirty? I was at Yu Yuan in early June and it was newly remodeled and clean. I guess they didn't clean the rooms for 4 months. Do you recall how much you paid at Yu Yuan? It sounds like Jin Hai An Hotel is much better and cheaper?

Thanks,

Weelock


to weelock

Not my room , I remember is on 6th fl single room carpet is new , The frig
do not work and tv and bed is old and run down , I stay one nite and leave
panyu is a little run down but still alot better than yu yuan .

fast eddie 48

OldAsiaHand
11-27-05, 05:33
DayNight:

The hotel across from Panyu Hotel under the pedestrian overpass is the Yu Yuan Hotel. I just drove past yesterday. The one in the other direction (away from McDonalds) that was just remodeled is called the Man Ho or something like that. There is a third hotel on the next corner up but I did not catch the name. There is a 7-11 next door? This may be where you stayed last time since it looks pretty shitty.

OAH


I was staying the Jin Hai An Hotel last time for rmb160. It's run down and functions also as a hourly place (based on the females I saw in the lift an lobby). In that respect it's DEFINiTELY girl friendly!

But last time was the GZ fair and the Panyu Hotel was US$100. GZ Fair is over and prices are again rock bottom.

For the Panyu Hotel the rmb380 is the price thay advertize on their website. I guess you can squeeze them down a bit more. A chat girl I know from Panyu has there a corp rate of rmb200 - but is not willing to make a booking for me...

OAH, if the name of the place opposite Panyu Hotel comes to your mind let me know. There is also another 3-Star opposite, Qian ??? Hotel or something like that....

Cronin
11-27-05, 08:59
RD,

I've been calling it and writing about it for years as Fancun. But I noticed that Johnny referred to it as Fangcun. So the other day I made a point to look at the sign on the Metro stop, and he's right, its Fangcun. I stand corrected. Search on Fancun and you should be able to pull up the posts. Or you could just page back a couple of pages, we were just talking about it a couple days ago.

Cronin

Weelock
11-27-05, 11:08
Hi DayNight,

Found an old business card for you on Yu Yuan. You can call for the rates and information. Sorry, you need some Chinese and most likely Mandarin for questions. For English, I would say 90% NO. One of the number might be a fax.

020-34511888
020-34513000

DayNight
11-30-05, 12:16
weelock
Thanks, I actually have the Yu Yuan card on my table. But the hotel did not really appeal to me.

I found a good onlive price for the Panyu Hotel - but the hotel was full anyway. Finally I stayed opposite, in the Long Quan Hotel. They only had a superior room with sauna for rmb338. Room was large and quite new. I can really recommend that hotel! 020/84826288

Other hotels are YuShan Hotel (next to Panyu Hotel), ShiChang Hotel (opposite PH). One to watch will be WanHao Hotel 020/61928388, brand new, not open yet (right next to PH).

If you do 300m circle around the Panyu Hotel you will find at least 10-20 more hotels.

On the sex side there is not too much to tell. I met again (3rd time) my chat queen. 2nd time was already much better then first - and 3rd time was again better. She is really getting into sex and transformed from a warm salmon to a really energetic play partner. Nearly more then I can handle since the sessions get long, and there is usually a middle of the night wake-up for more too. And of course some morning sex too....

Legal Lad
12-03-05, 15:15
Going to arrive in GZ on Dec 10th late. Was thinking about getting a few people together for some KTV fun. Yes yes, I know most of the super nice KTVs are in Dongguan (don't worry thats on my agenda); but was going to hit the KTV in Asia International Hotel. Last time I was there, had a good time.

If anyone is up for some fun, let me know with a PM.

Cronin
12-24-05, 19:14
The Road of Gold glitters back to life! Bill and I were in the Garden Hotel area tonight and were bemoaning the loss of one of the best spots in GZ, Tao Jin Lu. So we decided to walk up there since Bill hadn't seen it. And I'll be damned if we didn't see the sweetest sight, eight little peas in a pod. These were very nice quality girls, all 7 or better, dressed really nicely and two or three who were KTV quality, maybe 9. So nice to see them back where they belong.

They were on the Garden Hotel side of the train overpass, about two blocks up from the overpass. The security guard who is usually stationed under that red umbrella wasn't there. They were on the other side of the street under some trees. They weren't overly friendly, just like always, but they were chattable. Bill talked to a real sweety and got quoted the 300 rate, which I think was standard for Chinese in the old days (if I remember right). I didn't ask, since we had just come from a monger adventure to my favorite spots: Yuan Cun, Huangpu Cun and Sha Tai Lu.

Bill and I got quoted 500 at one BBS in Huangpu Cun, I still can't figure out why the mama thought we were that stupid, since I even knew one of the girls. Really pissed us off to be taken as stooges like that. Like the mama was saying to us: fuck you, we don't want your business. Except the girls obviously did want our business since they were smiling at us.

I made a point of telling the girls that their mama just screwed them out of our business before we left. Then we went to another papa who had been friendly to us (actually, he took us there, even though we knew the spot) and told him that she just tried to screw us. That shit doesn't go down too well with people who are just trying to make an honest buck. We'll see how long that genius lao ban survives. I'll let her shine my shoes next week.

We went from Huangpu Cun to Yuan Cun to do a regular of mine and a cute girl she picked out for Bill. Bill got Fire and Ice service, a free porno movie and BBBJ from his little sweety. Absolutely unheard of service for this part of town, I gotta go back and find her. But she fucked him so hard, it literally made him sick, poor old guy, just can't take those young'uns anymore ;>

Finally got to show him Sha Tai Lu and sat through many one and two girl line ups at two different mama rooms. Hard to muster up the patience for that game after the 60 girl line ups in CP. But I managed to locate a mama who knows my taste very well and she brought one delectible little fruit vendor. Young, shy, cute and top heavy. Bill sat in the hall and had mama massage his stomach (just teasing, my friend).

Then we ended up at the Garden area. The SW action was pretty heavy on both sides of the overpass, in front of the Garden and the street along side the Garden Hotel. But the high point of the night was seeing those little lovelies on the Road of Gold. Even though we didn't partake, it does an old mongers heart good just to know they're out there. Drive up service on the Road of Gold. Now that's the Guangzhou I know and love.

By the way, Bill, OAH, me and another monger went up to Qing Yuan last night. Transporter was right, it is a great monger destination. There was a big crackdown in progress over the past weeks, so we didn't see 1000 girls on the 1000 Girl Street, but I was really impressed with the number and quality of the girls. They were also 100% foreigner friendly, like CP. OAH wasn't impressed, though, so take my enthusiasm with a grain of salt. It ain't CP, but I had two excellent girls, one of whom I have to go back for: great rack, super cute, excellent service (the unrequested BBBJ, what a joy that is, "I help you" she says).

I could do a better report on that trip, but not sure where to put it. "Other Areas"? Hmmm, what do you think?

Cronin

OldAsiaHand
12-25-05, 08:33
Cronin,

I suggest S. China, All Areas. I will put post about QY up there too.

OAH



By the way, Bill, OAH, me and another monger went up to Qing Yuan last night. Transporter was right, it is a great monger destination. There was a big crackdown in progress over the past weeks, so we didn't see 1000 girls on the 1000 Girl Street, but I was really impressed with the number and quality of the girls. They were also 100% foreigner friendly, like CP. OAH wasn't impressed, though, so take my enthusiasm with a grain of salt. It ain't CP, but I had two excellent girls, one of whom I have to go back for: great rack, super cute, excellent service (the unrequested BBBJ, what a joy that is, "I help you" she says).

I could do a better report on that trip, but not sure where to put it. "Other Areas"? Hmmm, what do you think?

Cronin

Tristan36
12-28-05, 06:33
I checked yesterday the Golden Road. Actually, I have never seen any action there, so after last message from Cronin I decided to visit it.

I found only a group of five or six girls. Actually, I would rate them 6 or 7 maximum. They quote me 800rmb. They must be absolutelly crazy 500m from there girls are quoting 300rmb near the Garden H. I told her 600rmb knowing that it was overpriced but I like her. Nevertheless, she told me in her apartment or paying her at front. I thought that it was just crazy and I left. I wanted to go to my apartment and obviously paying after the service.

It was rainy, cold, and they were asking for expensive price and payment before service. Just ridiculous.

Take care

Bill Lee
12-29-05, 12:45
Strolled by the Garden Hotel (Starbuck and MacDonald side) three times this week and got approached by several SWs for 300RMB with 50 for nearby fuck room. There was an average of 10 to 15 SWs in the area during the times from 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. The BAs were there but most of them left the SWs alone. Most were 4 to 5 in quality and 1 or 2 in 7 quality. Turned down all offers and one even yelled out 100RMB.

Also did the Road of Gold the night after Cronin and I strolled in it at 12 a.m. Saw only 2 SWs near the "Easy" clothing store located at a corner. Coming from the Friendship Store, it would be past the KFC and before the tunnel on the right side. A late night quickie restaurant is after it. Quality of those two were about 7. I was looking for the cutie that Cronin and I both saw the night before. Unforturnately she was not there.

Also did the stroll of BBS in the area passed the Blue and White restaurant with JK666 and all of them were closed.

Bill

OldAsiaHand
12-29-05, 13:42
Tristan36,

Are you a laowai? It has always been the same up there. The SW do the Asian guys for 250-300 RMB, but will not even budge off the high prices for foreigners. I can never understand it either. I am glad to hear that you did not pay those crazy prices. Even 600 RMB is a joke.

Most of the SW around the Garden Hotel will go ST for 200 RMB or less.

OAH





I checked yesterday the Golden Road. Actually, I have never seen any action there, so after last message from Cronin I decided to visit it.

I found only a group of five or six girls. Actually, I would rate them 6 or 7 maximum. They quote me 800rmb. They must be absolutelly crazy 500m from there girls are quoting 300rmb near the Garden H. I told her 600rmb knowing that it was overpriced but I like her. Nevertheless, she told me in her apartment or paying her at front. I thought that it was just crazy and I left. I wanted to go to my apartment and obviously paying after the service.

It was rainy, cold, and they were asking for expensive price and payment before service. Just ridiculous.

Take care

Tristan36
12-29-05, 15:00
Yes, I am a Laowai,

My command of Putonghua is quite low, and I found quite difficult to find interesting action in GZ. I know there are some areas with BBS but they are far from my place. Also, I do not feel confident in going to some areas.

I have gone to several discos/clubs such as Cat walk and I am sure that there are some very nice girls available for action but they do not speak English and not very friendly to Laowai.

Very good KTV´s all around the city with I guess very nice girls inside but very few with bar. Most of them only with ktv rooms inside. When I go there people do not even try to talk to me! They look at me as I was from another planet. Actually I am only European; not that far!

Guangzhou, such a nice city with 8 million people and so difficult for quality mongering!

Happy New Year!

Take care out there!

All About Bob
12-30-05, 02:51
due to work commitments, i will have to spend more time in GZ and am bored of livng in hotel so am looking for an apartment, I think that the Tianhe area is probably best, if any one have any ideas of good apartment blocks, please PM me, also if anyone wants to meet up, and show me the best places for birds it would be appareciated

thanks

Bob

Santa
12-30-05, 15:01
Tristan 36 and others. That's right, don't follow a street walker to "her place" or "pay up front". That's how you get robbed or cheated.

And leave your valubles in a safe place while prowling, like the hotel safe.

Happy New Year to all.

Fast Eddie 48
12-31-05, 19:25
I was in guangzhou for one day stay at liu hua hotel across from the station
www.ih.com.cn service is very good remodel all the room at the main tower
340 rmb a night , i was there to meet with my online freebie turn out is a big
waste of time , she didn't look as hot as the photo so we just have lunch.

I also check out fangcun area around 10 pm see about 15 sw all young and
4-5 so i pass on all of them there is a disco on that street new something
when inside not too much actions may be is still early so I leave , I think the
city of guangzhou is a hit and miss is a big city you need to spend a lot of
time to find the actions , i think ktv and the disco is your best bet.

fast eddie 48

Goderos
01-04-06, 08:26
Cebu_local read your previous post. You are a good guy. Buy sorry to re-hash 500 for ramada bbs. Like oah said you had a good time. That's all that counts in the end. 500 for both would have more than sufficed. Honestly, I am not preaching you are a business person. You should know better than pay more than market rate. Cronin Thanks for your many post. You post have been invaluable to me. AND the pics! What a guy. I really like to buy you a brew sometime. Have heard good things about you from Ramsey and OAH.

Was at the road of gold and Garden hotel city last week for two nights between 9pm and 4 am various times. Saw maybe 40-60 girls in total. Between the rating of 4-6. 5 ages 22-45. Maybe a few 7's.

HuangPuCun - you are right it is a big area. Take a good hour to walk it all. Was there at 11. 30 and saw a bbs as I entered did not partake. There may have been a crackdown when I was there. Did not see many bbs. Lotsa regular salons maybe 15-20. Saw a few girls in alley. Cheap cigarettes malborro for 8rmb per pack. Walked here for a while. Saw a couple of mamasan. Did not take them up on the massage offer. Just walked by them and did my own search. In hindsde maybe shouold have gone with them. Mostly I gather the girls were hiding upstairs that night. Finally around 3am found a bbs with 3 girls. One girl really stood out. I was in the mood for something tall and leggy. Bingo! found one. She was 1. 6+m with black boots. Looked tall with tits and not flat chested. Looked like a korean zhang yiyi. She was not smiling so I really had hesitation. Actually she was not saying anything at all. Normally I'd say fuck it and pick someone else. Negotiated 150st in the room. Finally decided 200 take out which was fine as the cab was going to cost her 30rmc anyways. So 170rmb take out. She did warm up after a while. She was prob 20 and prob tired of working this scene. Who can blame her. She was good looking. Definately at least a 7 and looks. 6. 5 in attitude. Cbj after haggling. 5. 5 for the deed. A little of dead fish but I did bang her pretty hard for about 20 mintutes straight and she liked it. All and all it was an ok experince. Saw a few youngins while I was there. Did not think about it. Wished I'd gone upstairs with mummy. Did see a few younger 7's talking to a custy at the entrance of the gated door to the stairs as I was leaving HPC.

Goderos
01-04-06, 09:22
Fangcun - went there a little early maybe 7pm. Explored the area for about an hour walking around the peripheral and into the dens. There is a KTV and a nightclub in the area. Also maybe 10 regular hair salon. 1 HJ only bbs in uniformed, maybe 15 girls to chose from. Saw 1 really cute one. Decided on a hairwash and blowdry. Found one with a nice youunger looking gal. About 20 minutes later I was done cost was 5rmb. Still had itme to kill. Found a really good regular massage place with regular massage tables. Got a 40 yo man with nerdy glasses as my masseuse. I was skeptical. WTF am I doing. But I've gotten this far so why not. I lay on the table and place my belongings in the drawer of the table. I lay on my stomach and he begins. It was the most painful massage I've ever experinced (talking well over 100-200 massages). It was bearly bearable. But I endured not wanting to sound like a puss. Eventually I got used to the massage and fell asleep. Don't know how but was awaken an hour later. When I stood up it was as if my body was all new and rejuvenated. I was pleasently surprised. It the cost was 30rmb for an hour long massage. I'd take this anytime over a Starbucks lattte. Well worth it.

So now I stumble out and see a few girls out on the prowl. So getting ready for some eye candy. It was about 10: 30, decided I needed a snack to recharge and to watch rather than just stand. Got a good spot for food and beer. It was just at the entrance to the gates where some of the girls were coming out to work. Saw maybe 10 girls so far. I eat my food and drink my beer. Watch the girls slowly come out. So far nothing catched my attention. Maybe a couple of 6's. After dinner I started walking the block. Nothing really got my attention. Maybe it was early. Finally saw three girls standing outside the club. Decided to talk to them. They were not working girls but rather waiting for their brother to get to the club. I had some time to kill and I was kinda felling like dancing with some hot girls so I asked them if we could go to the club together. They were fun, young girls. In the club there were maybe 60-70 people in the nite club watching some show. Saw quite a few local hotties in the club so I decided to stay. There were definately girls here who should not be here for at least a few years later if you know what I mean. I stayed to dance with about 6 girls. A little dirty dancing, touching and grobbing. I was having fun so I stayed till about 2 am. Wish I had a wing man. Took some numbers had some drink and wanted to move on. Saw a really, really hot hostess (I think) there. She was definately a 9. Wish I'd talked to her. I saw her later that trying to catch a cab. Darn it. If I go back there, I am hunting her down.

Back on the street, there are 5-6 groups of 1-7 girls each lead by their mamasan. Did not take long for each of them to approach me as I was walking along. The girls run up to cars and cabs when they approach. It was fun to watch them run up to the cabs whenever the cab slowed down. And then it was also funny to watch them ALL run away into alleys and hiding behind vendors when a bao an was driving by. And bao an was going up and down often. So it was like 30 girls running to a parked car and running away when bao an came. Decided to sit by a store and get some water. So far the quality was a mixed batch maybe 20-40 girls 4-6. 5. Maybe a couple of 7. Saw one girl that reminded me of someone I liked from my college. Except that the girl I liked is a Chartered Accountant and this one has a much harsher life. So chated with her for a while. She's definately got some brains. But wanted 200rmb to go back with me. I refused. I was firm on paying 130-150rmb. I really did not see anything I liked except maybe one other girl. My other option was the HJ BBS. It'd be 30-35rmb for an hour. Hmmm. . The girl I liked stayed and chated with me for 1/2 an hour but would not budge on the price. But I got my principals too. I decided to cross the street as the girls were ALL congretating there. Saw the other one I liked and talked to her mamasan. This want also wanted 200rmb. I said no way. Eventually agreed on 150rmb but wanted money up front. Again I told her no way.

Saw two new girls, maybe just came back from a date. . One was 18 the other 19. They were both a 6. 5. Talked to mamasan and told her I'd take her girl for 150rmb takeout. 50rmb now and 100 later. Asked for BBBJ, she said to take the 19 yo, which service was better. Hop on a cab and was gone. .

At this point I was happy to be out of there. I was getting tired and bored with the SW bs.

She did BBBJ, ar, fs. Her service was good. Her ar was better than that in Virgin Sauna in CP. So that alone was worth the price of admission. So I cant complain she stayed for over hour and half. With about 45 minutes of continous action. Gave her 30 for the cab. Fangcun can be far away form where you are. Ask the cab driver. I'd doubt I'd go back to Fangcun, unless to see that hostess. I felt dirty after my session with her. Had to wash up really good after. There are better options in GZ. All in 60rmb for cab fair, 150 + 30 cab fair, 30 for hour long quality massage, 5rmb for hairwash, 90 rmb for dinner and drinks. Total 365rmb for over 8 hours of fun.

Goderos
01-04-06, 09:54
imho baiyun area has lotsa action. Mine you its a big area. There's Tan Su Yuen, Sha Tai Lu, Xinshi, Tau Ching Lu, He Shui Cun (lu) etc. There are $98 rmb rub and tug places (option to fuck, you have to ask in advance, as not all girls do). Basically includes 2 hours of massage, shower, sauna facility, relaxing on the big chair with individual TV's, all you can eat buffet food, drinks, fruits), and internet access computers for one low price. Some variation to this is possible. But the bottom line is that there are places you can relax, refresh, eat and not worry for a few hours, relax and get a release for about 100rmb. There are variations to the services and prices depending where you go. Some for $118 will include an hour foot massage. The are between 20-80 girls at each of this places. So there are some 7's working here. You can get the massage and take the girl home with you after she's done work. I know if I stayed in GZ I'd prob have at least a dozen of this girls in my bed. And prob. A freebie too. Of course you can negotiate a fee for their services outside. But I have had so many offers outside of their work I'd would not pay. I would share their numbers guys but I honestly don't remeber who and where and when I met this girls. I am not boasting so don't flame me. My phone and PDA has at least 60 girls from S China. There are at least 20 names starting with saiw (xiao) followed by something. There are still messages and and calls from some of the girls. But if you ignore them long enough they get the message. If you like I'd take you there when I am in town. But don't ask me for individual girls number.

Anyways, I've gotten the best HJ, better than mine, at one of this places. Treat the girls nice and they'll likely fall for you or your wallet. Hehe! I would consider fucking them outside, if I know that they don't fuck guys here. That way I can get good service from a semi-pro thats not been with 1-5 guys a day for however long she's been working. JMPOV.

If anyone interested I can post more on it.

Goderos
01-04-06, 11:03
More on the baiyun district.

Heshuicun is as on Sha tai lu as reported by Cronin. I am not sure how China names the places. So not sure if you can call the Cun an village or what. Anyways its an area in the Baiyun District. As you walk into it there are two shops on both sides of the street. There are no foreigners in sight. Keep walking along occasionally you'll see a mamasan here. But the area is full of mamasan and agents. The area is about 25-30 minutes to walk around. Always be carefull going into a foreign teritorry. But always appear that you know what you are doing. Walk as if you have a purpose. Don't stare and never be rude.

I think I saw 1 or 2 bbs here. Maybe 4-5 in quality. I was just exploring today for the purpose of posting here. Not buying today. Hehe. . Anyways there are about 10-25 mamasan in the area. I always look people I deal with in the eye. Take a close look and find a trustworthy mamasan. It's not an exact science. And even trustwothy people can work with unscrupulous people. So there are no gurantees. I see one mamasan that looked ok and told her that I wanted to see her girls. I tell her bluntly that If I don't see anything I like I can leave with no hassle. She says ok. To go to the room. It was a dark alley that she suggested I go up to. Tell her NO. And she suggest to sit on a couch on a smaller street away from traffic while she grabs the girl. I sit and wait for maybe 5 minutes. She brings 7 girls between 18-19. All between 5-6. They dressed pretty poorly for my taste. So I thank her and left. Of course she offers to find one I like. Asking what I like etc. Etc. Don't they all.

I saw about 30 girls in total on the streets walking that were possibly available. I am sure more are behind close doors. Quality between 4-6 maybe a few 7. Will try again to next time.

Xinshi also in the baiyun district. It was 4am in the morning when I arrive. There was mamasan waiting on the street when I arrive. She calls me upstairs to her place. It was up the stairs to the left as I entered Xinshi. 2 minutes later I was sitting down and she brings 6 girls. All about a day over 18. Ahem! . I said no thanks. She says to wait. Sure why not It was late and most of the good ones were probably gone. As I get up she show a me a real stunner. Mamasan was holding out on me. Not wanting to show me the good stuff. She was acting shy. I just stare for abit a give the girl the eye. She looks at me then away. Acting shy and all. The girl tells me if I don't like her that she would just leave. There is no way in hell I wasnt fucking her. Pardon my french! . She is still shy and flirty. Sometimes you never know with p4p girl when they are sincere or when they are acting. I find out later she was not acting at all. Very sweet girl. 18yo 5ft 6" 100lbs. Very nice figure 34c bust. Long hair. Sweet smelling. But does not do take out or LT. Fuck me! What a load of crap. It was 4. 30am, I needed to bust a nut and there was no way I was going to find anything better. Geez! Checked out the room. Told papasan to change the sheets. He reluctantly did. There were 3 rooms. Chose the cleanest one. The rates are are between 70-130rmb. In the room she was gigly and fun like a real shy gf. Washed up and got naked. Very nice body. Some times you just get lucky. Got BBBJ, dfk, bs, fs, gfe the works. Like fucking a girl you want for a gf for the first time. A lot of fun. DFK to completion a first with P4P for me. Very erotic girl. Wanted her to come home with me but papasan said she could not. Had to go home to her family? WTF? I am sure she would not have mind coming home with me. Anyways, she leans over to offer a very gentle sweet caring kiss before she heads out. Very GFE very sweet great exp despite the enviroment.

Tell papasan to arrange a take out for me. Brought over two girls 19-20 yo. They are both smiling and gigling. The older one has a very infectious laugh. So I decided on the taller 20 yo. Been with so many small petite ones earlier in the month decided to do diff now. Shes tall and slim smaller bust than the first maybe a 33b. Tall and leggy. Papasan assures the service of this is the best. Later I find out that the service was good. She does everything but a sincere GFE. Sigh! I quickly fell out of love from the first girl and concentrated on banging this girl hard. I mean Hard! . She was a champ. A trooper. Offered bareback after 25 minutes of hard pumping. Poor girl was geting tired. Oh dear! I looked at her and told her no thank you. Had to focus to bust another load, cof. Told her, oops it was an accident. We both laughed got cleaned up. Very nice girl too. Too bad these girl are in theese industry. Hard not to get jaded after a while. Poor girls. . Anyways, I busted my nut twice. : -D. Total damage was 300 for both girls. Told papasan I was paying only 130 and I was firm. He was dissapointed but agreed.

On the way to Xinshi saw a place in Baiyun with a strip of BBS. 3 shops were opend it was 4 am. I definietly want to check this place out. I think the chinese call it falang meaning BBS, is this right? But its not foreigner friendly. Was only offered 1 girl from 2 shops. The quality here between 5-7 with a couple of 8. Definitely coming here again. But fuck if I know how to get there. So don't ask. I don't know where it is, but if you find it please tell me whats it called. LOL!

Prince Leo
01-05-06, 19:48
The pronounciation of "Cun" has several characters and meanings in Chinese. The most often usage is Village, the second frequent usage is, mainly by southerners and HK, Community.

OldAsiaHand
01-08-06, 06:42
There is an area with maybe 8-10 BBS on the main drag through town on the left side of the road just past the Clifford Hotel headed towards the ferry. A couple of the shops had upwards of 15 girls, but most only 3-5 per shop. FS was available for 130 RMB. I was pleasantly surprised with the overall quality of the talent, many even in the 7-8 range.

I went upstairs to check out the massage rooms in a shop that I thought was just legit massage. When I asked the girl about HJ service, she replied adamantly, "No HJ". She paused a few second went on, "Why would you want a HJ when you can have FS?". It was a classic!

Overall, the area was very foreigner friendly and the operators seemed pretty straight and honest. Not one tried to charge me a lao wai surcharge or rip us off.

Highly recommended if you are in Nansha.

OAH

Voss123
01-18-06, 06:06
As a follow-up to my trip last October, the Star River Hotel was a nightmare. It was completely devoid of any character --- it was new, clean, and high-end but I felt like I was in a high-end prison. No women, no bars, and everything is a major walking expedition. I hated it.

As it turned out, I was only there one night --- I asked a cab driver to bring me to a Sauna .... after about a 10 minute ride to no-where he brought me to some place that was huge with no one in it but a lot of women .... I can't tell you where it was, so I won't bother you with details since it won't do any of us any good.

I'm going back again in April and would like to stay in the same area but at a 3-star or 4-star hotel that has in-house service --- any suggestions?


He means this place: http://2005.star-river.com/en/

Stayed there myself. It's right after the second or third bridge crossing going south to Panyu. Some of their apartments overlooks one of the rivers. I think this place is legit. But the underground garage with elevator will allow you to bring in a girl at night without running into the staff at the lobby. There's no security guard in the basement.

It's an apartment complex with a hotel inside. Very nice and expensive. It's the ridiculous apartment ad you see for the Constellation with the statue of Abraham Lincoln at the toll booths near the Park N Shop in Panyu. Has a golf course inside the complex.

The capitol dome KTV is about ten minutes away. Been there. Nice selection. Maybe if you hang out at the entrance during 7 to 8 p.m., you might be able to stop some one from going to work?

BTW, the airport bus stops there at one of the restaurant buildings inside the capitol dome KTV complex. Bus ticket can be purchased inside.

When I say the capitol dome, I meant it's dome shape roof is similar to the U.S. capitol's.

Bill

Voss123
01-18-06, 06:25
Anyone have experience staying at or near the Warm Yes hotel

468 Middle xin Gang Road, Guangzhou, 510318 China

http://www.warmyes.cn/index_1.htm

Cronin
01-22-06, 03:35
Voss,

Not sure if you're still out there, I just got back from CP and haven't been on the board for a while.

I'll give you a local's mongering spot near that hotel. Been meaning to post about this spot but haven't gotten around to it, no one ever posted about it before in GZ.

Once again, I don't recommend this area to the novice monger. It is catacomb mongering in a local neighborhood. I don't think you'll be in any danger, but if you are new to this, one way or another it will not be fun. This is really for GZ locals, however there is a drive up SW area (read on).

The neighborhood is Ke Cun, I'm sure this village has been here for hundreds of years, perhaps thousands, its quite old. It's south of the Pearl River on the southwest quadrant of Guangzhou Dadao and Xingang Lu, a major crossroads.

Xingang is the main east-west street on this "island" south of the river, it runs from the Exhibition center to Jiangnan Dadao (in Honan), following the metro route past Zhong Shan University.

I took the metro (line 2), got off at Ke Cun station to exit on the south side of Xingang Lu and walked west, crossing under Guangzhou Dadao. If you're north of the river, you can get there by taking a taxi across the Guangzhou Dadao bridge and getting off at Xingang Lu. From the Yes hotel, take a taxi to Guangzhou Dadao and get out and start walking around.

When I was there, I walked from the metro, west on Xingang (south side) past Guangzhou Dadao. Ke Cun village is just to your left behind a business area, so you can't see it. I kept an eye out for small alleys to the left into the village. I finally found one and fell in behind a slightly overweight business guy well dressed in all black. I knew he was going somewhere good because he was out of place here, so I stayed behind him. After a couple hundred feet, he stopped at a girl in a doorway on the left and I slowed down to watch.

The door was open and I could see the alcove inside was lit with purple neon. He said a couple words to her and she led him inside and up the stairs. There seemed to be several rooms inside, no doubt she was the mama taking him upstairs to a fuck room where he would make his selection. Since there were several other guys waiting outside in the alley and the mama was now gone, I kept walking.

Several hundred more feet led me to a BBS, a complete euphamism in this case since there was no attempt at making it look like barbering was going on. Just girls sitting on couches and standing outside, really its a Monger Pro Shop (MPS?). I checked the girls and mama was hard sell, but nothing really great so I moved on.

I walked all the way to the end, turned right and came back up the next alley. This led me to the main east west alley on Ke Cun, maybe 6-8 feet wide. Walking up and down this alley, I spotted about four BBS and a mama standing in the alley with a couple young girls like she was selling fruit. One girl was about 7 or 8, nice, and I spotted a couple of 7-8's in the shops, but overall the quantity and quality was underwhelming. I went back out to check the purple neon shop, but I didn't see the mama or the light, so I meandered out to Xingang again and headed down the street (West).

Turning left at the first major street led me back to another huge neighborhood which was densely packed with people, shops, dogs, motos. This is Lujiang, a working class neighborhood. A lot of fabric factories here and lots of action of different kinds. I saw street walkers in several places, BBS (but not many), and two different pro shops with a dozen or so girls sitting lined up on long couches (like CP mama rooms).

I never connected in Lujiang and ended up finding a moto and asking him to take me to the girls. He took me back to Ke Cun village and the alley I had just come from. However, he first took me to an area he said has a lot of SW. It is on the East entrance to Ke Cun village, right on Guangzhou Dadao. So, Voss, you would take a taxi along Xingang from the hotel, turn south at Guangzhou Dadao (away from the Pearl River) and go about half a block. They should be lined up near the street. By the way, they are also hanging out across the street on the corner (SE quandrant of that intersection). This is late night stuff, after 11 or 12, because this is a neighborhood and the girls are not going to stand there in front of people eating and drinking.

This might be a good place for you to start Voss, because you can drive up in a taxi and check out the girls and then just take them back to your hotel with no catacomb mongering. Let us know how it goes.

Cronin

SE Asia Joe
01-23-06, 04:55
Good service here - more like Donguan than GZ at their Lan Bi Tao health Centre
757-8396-3008/3088. I had #59 - forgot her name - and she had a knock out body. 5'4' c cups, 36-22-36 with Silky smooth skin. And her Service - oh her service!! started out in the sauna/shower cubicle when she gave me a real comfortable shampoo followed by slip/slide body wash. Proceeded to the bed and it was whole body licking, AR, partial CBJ (licked everywhere until the time that she put the whole shaft into her mouth), every which way FS. Finished up / took a shower and she then had me lie down and gave me an oil massage (Your skin is too dry after shower, I'll rub some oil on you!). Gave me a real soothing and long massage and then started oiling my tool - and inevitable result! First she asked if I just wanted to 'shoot it out" but after a while, she asked if I wouldn't be more 'comfortable' if she rode me. Wow - a girl with 'service' as her middle name! And Hay Yoo silver she rode and rode and rode!! Boobs bouncing up and down, side to side - and every which direction - with real convincing moaning sounds!
Took my third shower after that and walked out of there all smiles!
SE Asia Joe

Open to Explore
01-23-06, 05:41
Is the Foshan Lanao Hotel in Foshan or Guangzhou ?.

DayNight
01-23-06, 07:53
0757 wourld be Foshan area area code. GZ has 020

SE Asia Joe
01-23-06, 09:44
0757 wourld be Foshan area area code. GZ has 020

Its in Foshan - which is approx 20 KM out of Guangzhou.
BTW whilst in Foshan I stay at the Rotating Palace hotel which has a fun Karaoke downstairs with quite a few girls and not bad pricing - 2-5-8
plus they will arrange a nive hotel room there for RMB 180 - which is of course very safe/Girl friendly
SE Asia
Joe

MickTheFlick
01-24-06, 06:03
Hi,

I'm a new member, and I will be going to Guangzhou in middle of March. Could you tell mewhere is Jin Hai hotel is located? I find that this hotel charge a very resonable price. How can I tell the taxi driver I want to go there? Also, is it safe to move around alone in that area?

Any recommention?

Thank you.

Mvpexcalibur
01-25-06, 18:27
Good service here - more like Donguan than GZ at their Lan Bi Tao health Centre
757-8396-3008/3088. IWhich district is this in Foshan?

Usually I stayed at the Foshan Hotel in Foshan city. The Karaoke in that hotel is not too bad since my buddy out there has his contacts and lived out there. Never had such luck like you in the massage center.

Hope I can hit there again in Feb or March after finishing business in DG. The last time I was out there. Was sometimes in Sept. Last year. Seem so long.

Bob Builder
01-25-06, 20:48
If you now how much it costs, don't you have the address or phone number?


Hi,

I'm a new member, and I will be going to Guangzhou in middle of March. Could you tell mewhere is Jin Hai hotel is located? I find that this hotel charge a very resonable price. How can I tell the taxi driver I want to go there? Also, is it safe to move around alone in that area?

Any recommention?

Thank you.

Gaolei
01-25-06, 22:14
If you are looking for a hotel in Foshan, avoid this one. Rooms were ok and breakfast passable, but they never ran the heat, and it was freezing last winter. They seemed guest friendly and never questioned the girl who came to see me, but it was much too cold. I heard the Foshan Hotel was warm.

Also, the neighborhood held nothing I could find that I would call an attraction.

Rob Deniro
01-26-06, 15:49
Hi Fellows,

I already asked you and got help but now they booked me another hotel : yunshan hotel, see address above.

Can you give me some directions to find the action ? And does anybody know the quality of action in the hotel itself : its got a night club, massage and health center.

Thank you in advance,

Rob

Ace of Spades
01-27-06, 01:00
I lived in FOSHAN for a long time. So here is my two cents:

The action in FOSHAN is spread out and not concentrated in single one area but action can found in:

BAR/DISCOS: These are spread out, but there is a street behind the park near the corner of JIHUA ROAD AND FENJIANG Road. Lots of bars there.

BARBER SHOPS.

On Pulan road, there is a mall called LUSHING CHEN SHEN, this is what the locals call it in Mandarin, the Cantonese name is very similar. There is a MCDONALDS on the main floor. There are lots of girls behind the mall in the various barber shops, and brothels wth the bright neon lights. I am not sure of the prices. Everynight I went to the internet cafes behind there and would often meet girls. I got to know their faces and would often joke around with them. Next to the Mcdonalds is an AGRICULTURAL BANK OF CHINA and across from there is an outdoor store. In the evenings, you can find lots of motorcycle and taxi drivers playing cards. You will find action in the alleys around the store. The area is safe, despite how it looks.


SAUNAS:

These are almost always found on back roads, you will need the help of a local Chinese friend to identify these places. It might be unsafe to go to one for only locals.

HOTELS: The Foshan Hotel has girls who stand out front at night. Sometimes there is a big crowd and others times for some reason, they aren't there.

MALLS:

LUSHING CHEN SHEN (already discussed)

(on ZUMIAO LU across from PIZZA HUT) BAIHUA PLAZA- Always lot of people around should not be hard to find something there out front by way of non-hookers.

NANHAI GUANGCHEN- There is a sauna on the top level. 500-600 RMB. Real nice place. My brother went there once.

Places to avoid:

AVOID the area around the train station. The main BUS station is not far from there. You just have to cross the little bridge and walk a few blocks to find the train station. It is best not to go beyond this point. Very dodgy area with lots of violent gang activity.

AVOID any offers from street girls asking you to go to their place.

Weelock
01-27-06, 01:28
I have been to FOSHAN. Just a side note, since it's city and outside of Guangzhou City, it should be in the thread in "South China - All Areas". There are already few post on Foshan in the "South China - All Areas". Wing Chun Kung Fu and Wong Fai Hung Martial Arts are from this town.

Weelock

Cronin
01-27-06, 15:25
RD,

Bill and I were coming back from a trip to He Shui Lu and suddenly Bill says something like "wow, look at those street walkers". I turned around to look but didn't see anything. He says to tell the taxi driver to turn around so we can go to check them out. But by the time I had finished looking and then figured out what to say to the taxi driver, we were already at a place with a center divider and he couldn't turn around.

We spent the next 10 minutes looking at every street sign to figure out where the hell we were, since I didn't recognize the street and didn't really know where we were. After about 5 signs we figured out we were on Xian Lie Lu. When I got home, I tried to find it on the map and couldn't find it. I didn't see the SW, but Bill seemed pretty excited about them, so they must be OK. Bill, put your comments here...

So its great synchronicity that you bring it up with an address here. Were those SW in front of the Yunshan? Don't know. But if not, they are around there somewhere close. We did see a hotel on the other side of the street. So, if thats the same place you could walk out of the hotel and across the street for your selection.

Let us know how it goes and if possible, post a scanned card from the hotel, that would make it nice and easy for me to find it.

Cronin

Bill Lee
01-27-06, 16:24
...We spent the next 10 minutes looking at every street sign to figure out where the hell we were, since I didn't recognize the street and didn't really know where we were. After about 5 signs we figured out we were on Xian Lie Lu. When I got home, I tried to find it on the map and couldn't find it. I didn't see the SW, but Bill seemed pretty excited about them, so they must be OK. Bill, put your comments here....

Damn it Cronin. Just when I think I'm out, they drag me back in!....

For that 5 seconds of viewing of three or four girls in the street. I recall one of them wearing a red mini-skirt (UHHHHHHHHH). It was a deserted and dark area and I remember it as being on the right side of the road as we were headed back to the Garden Hotel.

Other than that, everything was a blur. Come to think of it, the whole trip was a blur.

Oh god. I must be going blind. I wonder from what?

Bill

Ace of Spades
01-27-06, 20:52
I am wondering if anybody here is an expert on the VARIOUS NIGHT MARKETS in Guangzhou?

Apart from pussy, I am looking for BASKETBALL JERSAYS to give as gifts to my ladyfriends. I have found Chinese girls really into basketball. If anybody knows details like the cost of each piece and location of the nightmarket, send me PM.

Sorry about the FOSHAN post, but it was in response to someone who wrote something on FOSHAN in the GZ section a few days ago.

Fast Eddie 48
01-28-06, 03:50
I am wondering if anybody here is an expert on the VARIOUS NIGHT MARKETS in Guangzhou?

Apart from pussy, I am looking for BASKETBALL JERSAYS to give as gifts to my ladyfriends. I have found Chinese girls really into basketball. If anybody knows details like the cost of each piece and location of the nightmarket, send me PM.

Sorry about the FOSHAN post, but it was in response to someone who wrote something on FOSHAN in the GZ section a few days ago.

to ACE

Are you talking about NBA jersey , HONG KONG and the US is the place to
get real NBA jersey , all the one in china is fake and I didn,t see any CBA
jersey did go to a game in DONGGUAN vs SHANGHAI the stadium is empty.
I think the girl like to watch the tall guys .

fast eddie 48

Weelock
01-28-06, 22:33
I am wondering if anybody here is an expert on the VARIOUS NIGHT MARKETS in Guangzhou?

Apart from pussy, I am looking for BASKETBALL JERSAYS to give as gifts to my ladyfriends. I have found Chinese girls really into basketball. If anybody knows details like the cost of each piece and location of the nightmarket, send me PM.

Sorry about the FOSHAN post, but it was in response to someone who wrote something on FOSHAN in the GZ section a few days ago.

Hi Ace,

I'm a little suprised you can't find anything in Foshan area for night markets. I recall that's your location. I believe you are asking about where stuff ( some illegal ) are sold when the sun sets. Try Beijing Rd area in GZ. It's NOT really what you may call a night market but it's an area for shopping. It's about 1 block away from a subway station. Sorry don't recall the exit for the subway station.

Suggest getting something call, "Yao Ming" number 11 on it, or a NBA team logo.

Sorry, my comments for were NOT meant for you. I have read some of your posting before on Foshan in "South China - All Areas". I kind of figured you were just replying to questions on Foshan.

Happy hunting......

Gentleman88
01-30-06, 03:59
Hello Mick,

I'm not sure why you picked this hotel but unless you are on a very tight budget you might want to reconsider. In GZ you can get something very decent for as little as 40 USD per night.

Also the location is not ideal, and be aware that none of the staff is likely to speak English as this hotel caters to locals. The area is not more (or less) dangerous than the rest of GZ.

To get there by taxi (assuming you don't speak Mandarin) you need a piece of paper with the hotel name and street name written in Chinese. This you can normally get from the hotel website but I doubt they have one. You might ask them to fax it to you instead. Also write the hotel phone number so that the driver can call and ask for directions.

Have a nice stay

Bad Boy Billy
01-31-06, 00:21
Help me here guys please if you can.

I have only ever been to Gz once before - 8 years ago - I will be back again in mid Feb for 1 night.

I have trawled back through this thread but cannot find much info on which 5 star hotels are indeed totally girl FRIENDLY.

Also any info on best bars to pick up better quality girls would be appreciated.

I am not a BBS guy and am a regular at Maggies, Hollywood, Den, Pig etc in Beijing or Bourbon St, Park 97 etc in Sh - but I can find no info on this type of bar in Gz.

Legal Lad
01-31-06, 02:58
Bad Boy,

I think OAH and other other GZ mongers will agree. It is pretty hard to find a totally girl friendly 5 star hotel in GZ. Arguably the best hotels in GZ are the Garden Hotel, White Swan, and the Asia International Hotel. I have been in all 3, and before 11pm there is no problem.

After 11 though, most of the 5 star hotels, will not allow guests, that do not "register" ie, a guest of the hotel. I stay at the Asia International quite a bit, and the few times I brought girls from their own KTV, I was given a little hassle. Nothing a few Maos couldn't take care of, but be aware.

Have fun!

Weelock
01-31-06, 03:26
Hi Gentleman88 and Mick,

Actually, the local people around Guangdong Province ( Southern China Area ) speak Cantonese. Cantonese is considered a total different language but most taxi drivers should be able to understand a little Mandarin. You can almost forget about the locals understanding English unless you are in a 5 star hotel. You are right about the piece of paper with the hotel name and phone number. I have done that myself many times.

I did have a problem doing that Dongguan. In Dongguan District (county), they don't use meter. I gave a hotel business card to a driver to call and I didn't know how far was the hotel. The guy requested 4RMB, after I told him I was going to the other taxi because I knew his reqested fare was too high. He wouldn't go down in price.

Note, large large majority of the girls are NOT from Guangdong Province and speak mostly Mandarin.

Weelock

Fast Eddie 48
01-31-06, 07:22
Hi Gentleman88 and Mick,

Actually, most people around Guangzhou ( Southern China Area ) speak Cantonese. Cantonese is considered a total different language but most taxi drivers should be able to understand a little Mandarin. You are right about the piece of paper with the hotel name and phone number. I have done that many times myself.

I did have a problem doing that Dongguan. In Dongguan District (county), they don't use meter. I gave a hotel business card to a driver to call and I didn't know how far was the hotel. After calling, the guy requested 4RMB, when I told him I was going to the other taxi because I knew his reqested fare was too high.


Weelock

to weelock

Not true most chinese in south china speak mandarin so many people are moving to shenzhen and guangzhou from the north and the country side
that don.t speak cantonese most will understand , my mandarin is very poor
and my cantonese is good because I was born in hong kong but move to the
US when I was only 10 .

Most hotel staff in dongguan and shenzhen speak only mandarin hard to find
one can speak cantonese or english , most local own land are business owner
hire mostly mandarin speaking staff, I do ask for girl that speak some or under
stand cantonese is not easy.

fast eddie 48

Weelock
01-31-06, 07:49
Hello FastEddie,

I would agree with most of your comments becuase Mandarin is the national language. Yes, new cities like Shenzhen and Dongguan, Mandarin is mostly spoken. In fact, I was told 25-30 years ago Shenzhen and Dougguan were only small fishing villages. Northerners flooded Shenzhen and Dongguan because of economic opportunities. About 80% of the people in China speak Mandarin. Mandarin is also required in schools in Southern China making it more dominate in the future.

Nevertheless, I still believe the local people in cities of Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Macau, and other OLDER smaller local towns, Cantonese is more spoken.

Weelock

Gentleman88
02-06-06, 02:01
Hello Weelock,

FYI,

1. Education thoughout the glorious PRC is in Mandarin only. So everyone here except older people speaks more than "a little Mandarin".

2. Guess what, many cab drivers in GZ don't even come from GuangDong province.


Hi Gentleman88 and Mick,

Actually, the local people around Guangdong Province ( Southern China Area ) speak Cantonese. Cantonese is considered a total different language but most taxi drivers should be able to understand a little Mandarin. Weelock

Moon2
02-07-06, 11:22
Can anyone recommend any places in or near the White Swan hotel?

They advertise a massage and health club; are services available there?

Thanks!

Dick Condon
02-08-06, 03:35
Can anyone recommend any places in or near the White Swan hotel?

They advertise a massage and health club; are services available there?

Thanks!I have recently stayed in the White Swan--great hotel and excellent service. However at the massage center I inquired and they only allow males to massage males. However, I did see on the news that the "great leader" from N. Korea was also recently at the White Swan--maybe he was able to convince them to change their policy.

Ramekin
02-09-06, 13:23
Gentleman 88,

FYI,

Having lived in GZ three years i know a good portion of population old and young do NOT understand mandarin. Yes the educated all understand and can speak Mandarin but a significant portion of the MASSES are not educated and do not. Generally they are elderly but even some of the younger working class do not understand mandarin, at least not mine!

The law says that all classes should be taught in Mandarin but even in GZ that is not the case in many classrooms. And in rural areas it is even more common that classes are taught in local dialect.

Add to that the cantonese have horrid pronounciation, it can make com***icating in some of the older neighborhoods (Liwan, JiangNanXi) of GZ

A serious headache.

Case in point: I have workers(young Guangdongers) who have not been able to com***icate with each other.

Weelock
02-10-06, 01:14
Ramekin:

Thanks for the comments and backing me up. I agree 100% with your comments.

Myself, I know several Cantonese families and have been to several small town, rural areas, and Guangzhou.

OldAsiaHand
02-10-06, 10:11
Bad Boy,


I am not that up to date on the girl friendliness of hotels in GZ. However, I may have the opportunity to stay at the Garden Hotel in a couple of weeks and will report.

OAH


Bad Boy,

I think OAH and other other GZ mongers will agree. It is pretty hard to find a totally girl friendly 5 star hotel in GZ. Arguably the best hotels in GZ are the Garden Hotel, White Swan, and the Asia International Hotel. I have been in all 3, and before 11pm there is no problem.

After 11 though, most of the 5 star hotels, will not allow guests, that do not "register" ie, a guest of the hotel. I stay at the Asia International quite a bit, and the few times I brought girls from their own KTV, I was given a little hassle. Nothing a few Maos couldn't take care of, but be aware.

Have fun!

Bill Lee
02-11-06, 03:21
OAH.

I doubt you'll get through the security guard at the elevator lobby.

My advise, COME early.

Bill



Bad Boy,


I am not that up to date on the girl friendliness of hotels in GZ. However, I may have the opportunity to stay at the Garden Hotel in a couple of weeks and will report.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
02-11-06, 03:59
Bill,

An old trick that used to work in the Garden before was to bring the girl up the escalators to the 2nd or 3rd floor where the restaurants and meeting rooms are and sneak her into the lift on those floors. There was no security at those points before. Have the smartened up?

OAH



OAH.

I doubt you'll get through the security guard at the elevator lobby.

My advise, COME early.

Bill

MickTheFlick
02-11-06, 05:44
Hi,

Thanks for your comment. I really dont know where is Jin Hai hotel is located however i saw from the forum here some of the members mention that their hotel rate are reasonable.As a matter of fact,this is my first trip to Guangzhou,and i m totally blank.I wish some its members here can tell me where is this place is so that i can tell the taxi driver,and also hoping to find some action.

Diamond Head
02-11-06, 15:16
Moon 2: Yes, that's disappointing at the White Swan. I had the same experience. In wandering around Shamian Island is search of something more entertaining I came across the sauna in the Victory Hotel. I think it's called somehting with "Dragon" in it. Anyway, proceed at your own risk. The girls we're that interesting and their business practices are aggressive and deceptive. I refused to pay part of the bill for tips they added without my consent. I would never go back, not even for free.

Bill Lee
02-11-06, 21:01
I was going to suggest that. But I dont' think it will work pass 11 p.m. But I've never tried it. My girlfriend was always registered guest with me.

What I used to do at the China Hotel was to bring the girl down to the Hard Rock Cafe and then take the elevator up again passing the lobby. Same ploy as yours. As you can see that was many many years ago.

But that kind of ploy may not work since most of the 5 star hotel elevators are wired with cameras inside.

Good luck just the same. Again. My suggestion: COME early and often.

Bill


Bill,

An old trick that used to work in the Garden before was to bring the girl up the escalators to the 2nd or 3rd floor where the restaurants and meeting rooms are and sneak her into the lift on those floors. There was no security at those points before. Have the smartened up?

OAH

Cronin
02-12-06, 06:27
On the prowl yesterday with OAH and a newbie monger named China Times (I think that's his name). We headed out about 4 in the afternoon, not exactly prime time, so the selection was thin. We started at a series of shops behind the Garden Hotel. If you take the street directly behind the Garden Hotel (not the Starbuck's side, the south side) you will get to a left turn (to go under the street overpass and up to the Road of Gold). Instead of taking that left turn, go straight and then jog right up the hill and left down a little street with about 6 BBS. I wondered what the hell we were doing here, because these are all legit places, turns out these were the newbie's contribution.

Always keen for a little chit chat with the girls, OAH forged ahead while I stood around looking bored. He immediately found the Love of My Life in the form of a gorgeous little farm girl sucking on a bottle of milk. Shit. The shop was "hand job only" and I would have been lucky to get even that out of her since she looked terrified in the presence of three white King Kongs (...and lo, the beast looked upon the face of beauty, and beauty stayed his hand, and from that day forward he was as one dead...) Of course if you play their game long enough, most of them will go FS one way or the other, but that game could take weeks in some cases.

One big rack girl quoted OAH 400 for a hand job, that gives you an idea of the game being played here. He did find a FS girl to his liking, but true to OAH form he dallied, checked another shop, and when he came back she was busy. He spent the next three hours saying "should have taken that girl...". I do the same thing all the time, most of the fun is in the hunting, not in the having, especially if you're with your crew.

Enough of that, we set off for another old area of GZ, Zhan Qian Lu. I have been wanting to check up on this area for months. This area by the Overseas Chinese Hotel at the north train station used to be a mongers paradise and I have spent many nights here in years past. But the area is completely neutered now and especially at 5pm. We checked out all the old sure fire shops directly around the hotel, all were gone. Then I took the boys to a little locals area known as Cosmos. This is about 500 meters south of the OCH on the right side of Zhan Qian Lu. There's a big sign which actually says "Cosmos" in English leading into a busy little neighborhood.

Here we found business as usual, mostly locals action and hidden, so it escaped the massive crackdown. Went into a little shop and found another girl I really liked, but mama was quoting 300 which pissed off OAH. This shop and area is always 150, and looking back on that now, I bet that Cosmos has gotten all of the Hong Kong business from the OCH and that has forced up prices. We found three more shops in this area and on the way out by a different exit, found several other spots which looked likely if only it was 11pm.

There is tons of LE around Cosmos. I saw one pack of 6 Gong An walking Zhan Qian Lu in their black SS uniforms. And I said to myself, self... what the hell are they doing here? OK, sure this is one of the worst crime areas in GZ (be verrrry careful if you come here, fair warning). But the Gong An is not exactly a neighborhood beat type of organization. As I was looking around, waiting for OAH and China Times to come out of Cosmos, I got an inkling of what might be happening. I was getting a come-on look from what appeared to be a mama. I betcha if you came here at prime mongering time, and walked around the neighborhood, you would find the action has shifted to street mamas and fuck room line ups. If you try that, be damn sure you have a wing man, they play rough here. The Gong An seems to be here to keep the pressure on the mamas.

At any rate, we were on the road again to Yuancun, a favorite area for OAH and me. We cruised through, wistfully remembering how wonderful this area used to be. Every time we come back, it gets thinner and thinner. We stopped at my favorite mama room and found several nice girls. But things got complex in a hurry. One problem was that I was trying to donate my favorite girl (ChongQing Express, see Photo Gallery) to China Times, since she is a top notch girl. But that caused her to lose face, since everyone in the shop knew she was my girl. She got up to leave when she realized what was happening, but mama called her back and things got ugly. She ended up intentionally fucking over China Times by asking too much money in the room, just so she could gain face.

Are you guys paying attention? I knew this could happen, although sometimes it isn't a problem. It's just my white guy stupidity that caused this. Never change girls in the same shop unless you are certain it will be no problem. I fucked up and I knew better. Another problem was that mama was quoting OAH 300, and he was, by this time, in no mood to play her game. I know this mama and she even does this to me, but I just always talk her down to 200, no problem. But the stress level in this tiny 6x8 room was so high by that time, that smooth talking was hard to come by. We finally got the price worked out, but OAH chose to walk, the girl wasn't worth all the trouble.

We went to another little alley and after much hemming and hawing, OAH found a great little sweetie. I waited for him and when he didn't come back for quite some time, I knew the story had a happy, although slightly plump ending.

Cronin

Bad Boy Billy
02-12-06, 09:22
Thanks guys for your advice - but I still cannot believe this situation in Gz.

I am currently stumped up at China World Hotel in Beijing - last 3 nights have ferried little fillies into the hotel between 2 and 3am - totally unchallenged - 2 little darlings to be exact on the first night - amazing country isn't it - definitely the land of "complication and contradiction".

Member #2634
02-17-06, 14:56
Hi all,
was here last year during the canton fair in Oct and was at the china hotel. The basement bar was rockin with verry pretty girls. Am here again till tuesday but the hotel is dead.
Am from india. Any fellow mongers want to meet up?

Goderos
02-17-06, 16:30
Is the Canton fair around the second week of March? Just wanted to check.
Cronin, enjoy your post as usual. Gee i sure hope I make to to GZ. Will be in S China in a few weeks. Want to go to some of the lesser known cun's with ya'. It would be fun I think.
I suppose this thread will get quite a bit of view with many heading out to Gz. for the fair.
IMHO, GZ is hit and miss. I had some of my best experinces here. I am sure prices will be inflated during the fair. Enjoy sifting through the post. There are many legends who have contributed to the post. Use the info here but try not to spoil the market.
I feel bad for the brothers who contribute here at their own expenses. And it can be dangerous too. Then watch the prices of their discoveries get inflated. Hey I know, I'll mind my own business. hehe..!

Moody
02-18-06, 00:46
Is the Canton fair around the second week of March? Just wanted to check.

Canton Fair is same time every year, April 15-30 and October 15-30. Still a couple months to go before the fair.

Piazza
02-22-06, 10:18
Dear All,

Just joined in ISG. I will be travelling to GZ soon. Have been hearing about how good the MPs are in China. Would love to have an ultimate massage at GZ.

Any recommendation?

Goderos
02-23-06, 08:37
Dear All,

Just joined in ISG. I will be travelling to GZ soon. Have been hearing about how good the MPs are in China. Would love to have an ultimate massage at GZ.

Any recommendation?

hope soon does not mean during the canton fair.
the best massage you wont find in GZ.
have you read the post here?

Piazza
02-23-06, 11:33
hope soon does not mean during the canton fair.
the best massage you wont find in GZ.

Have you read the post here?Not for the fair. Will be before that have back tracking the posts in this thread. After like 10pages, still cannot pick out an MP name. Mostly is about picking up girls off the street. The rates. Streets names.

I would appreciate if someone can give me an MP name and the rates that I can enjoy a great massage. Like the milk massage that my buddy had tried in beijing.

Savannah
02-25-06, 05:18
Not for the fair. Will be before that have back tracking the posts in this thread. After like 10pages, still cannot pick out an MP name. Mostly is about picking up girls off the street. The rates. Streets names.

I would appreciate if someone can give me an MP name and the rates that I can enjoy a great massage. Like the milk massage that my buddy had tried in beijing.MP's seem to not be the way to go in GZ. There is a report about them in the sha tai lu area that seems promising. GZ is so big. This may be difficult for you to get to. My advice would be to take a bus or train to Dongguan. These would be a sure thing and there is plenty of info in DG forum. You would probably save considerable time and effort, and also be much happier, if you go to DG.

MP's in GZ are hit and miss even for HJ and communication may be difficult.

Piazza
02-28-06, 11:06
MP's seem to not be the way to go in GZ. There is a report about them in the sha tai lu area that seems promising. GZ is so big. This may be difficult for you to get to. My advice would be to take a bus or train to Dongguan. These would be a sure thing and there is plenty of info in DG forum. You would probably save considerable time and effort, and also be much happier, if you go to DG.

MP's in GZ are hit and miss even for HJ and communication may be difficult.

Guys. You are right. The cab driver brought me and my frens to a MP, Jin Tao Health Protection Center, that offer packages. Would not advise to go there without someone that can handle the langauge.

When talk to the mamasan, it seems like the demand in GZ is for package only. Thus, they have to follow the demand from the market.

Took the package and the lady did tried her best to give a proper massage before the FJ. Damaged is 500 for 90mins.

OldAsiaHand
03-01-06, 03:46
Piazza:

Does FJ = FS? Is Jin Tao on Huangpu Da Dao? 500 RMB is not actually that bad a price for FS in a GZ sauna. Most only offer HJ included in the sauna fee of between 198 -288 depending on the place. FS is generally, not available at the better places in the downtown area.

I agree that the best sauna action is in Dongguan.

OAH




Guys. You are right. The cab driver brought me and my frens to a MP, Jin Tao Health Protection Center, that offer packages. Would not advise to go there without someone that can handle the langauge.

When talk to the mamasan, it seems like the demand in GZ is for package only. Thus, they have to follow the demand from the market.

Took the package and the lady did tried her best to give a proper massage before the FJ. Damaged is 500 for 90mins.

Piazza
03-01-06, 18:48
Piazza:

Does FJ = FS? Is Jin Tao on Huangpu Da Dao? 500 RMB is not actually that bad a price for FS in a GZ sauna. Most only offer HJ included in the sauna fee of between 198 -288 depending on the place. FS is generally, not available at the better places in the downtown area.

I agree that the best sauna action is in Dongguan.

OAHYes. FJ=FS. Yesterday was bought around the city by a local guy. Dinner at Dong? Seafood Restaurant, along Yian Jiang Road was excellent! Highly recommended. Then went to a night club where the service and the "princess" there are excellent. Sorry guys I don't know whats the name and where it is. After that went to a MP besides Victory Hotel. Had forgetable massage but the FS was top notch. The lady was very pleasing. Face 7/10 body 8/10 service 8/10 boobs 10/10! . My other two buddies also came out with a smile from ear to ear. We don't know what was the total damaged but the FS is 300. All of us don't mind going back to that MP. ; )

Manatsu
03-03-06, 05:43
With so many people heading to GZ soon for the fair.
We should start a tour! Charter a bus or something.
Prices are going to sky rocket with all the traffic!


Dear All,

Just joined in ISG. I will be travelling to GZ soon. Have been hearing about how good the MPs are in China. Would love to have an ultimate massage at GZ.

Any recommendation?

Nalle77
03-03-06, 07:53
Anyone else in Guangzhou this weekend (March 4th-5th)? I'll stay at China hotel. Anything remarkable nearby, or should I just catch a cab and give my specifications?

I'd prefer 1-2 young darlings in my room, and I've understood that there should be freelancers around the hotel. Any update on that?

Palm Tree
03-03-06, 11:17
Canton Fair is same time every year, April 15-30 and October 15-30. Still a couple months to go before the fair.I will be at Guangzhou during this period, can you enlighten me what kind of Fair is this, perhaps I can also pay a visit there. Thanks.

Weelock
03-04-06, 22:46
I will be at Guangzhou during this period, can you enlighten me what kind of Fair is this, perhaps I can also pay a visit there. Thanks.

Do a seach in googles or yahoo for info on fair. I was think about stopping by myself but look at the price of hotels. Usually, even with the normal listed price you can just walk in and get a discount. Therefore, it's even cheaper that what's listed for Normal Period. I don't believe there is a discount during the fair. The cheaper 2 stars are from 60-76USD. The BIG problem, recall reading the price of GIRLS will also increase. Don't recall the prices?

Thanks.....

Hotel Name...........Normal Period........Canton Fair 99th 2006

Ramada Plazal Hotel......US$ 72............US$225
Yihe Hotel...................US$ 52............US$165
Regal Riviera Hotel........US$ 56............US$ 232
Asia International..........US$ 72...........US$ 260
Tianlun International......US$ 71...........US$ 248
Phoenix City Hotel.........US$ 57...........US$ 180
Dongfang Hotel.............US$ 68...........US$ 323
China Hotel by Marriott...US$ 84...........US$ 454
Oriental Resort..............US$ 56............US$ 180
Grand International........US$ 65............US$ 267
White Swan Hotel..........US$ 82........... US$ 289
Garden Hotel.................US$ 80............US$351

Source : http://www.cantontradefair.com/hotel/


According to this website below it's 10USD to get in. Wonder why it's in English and USD when it's asking about documents during registration for HK, Macau, Taiwan and mainland people.


http://www.cbw.com/business/exhib/cantonfair/register.html


Weelock

Moody
03-05-06, 07:23
I will be at Guangzhou during this period, can you enlighten me what kind of Fair is this, perhaps I can also pay a visit there. Thanks.

the official name of the Canton Fair, I believe, is "China Export Commodities Fair." That name says it all. The have sellers selling just about any commodity that can be made in China for export and that includes everything from car parts and tools to socks.

Palm Tree
03-05-06, 17:23
Thank for all your valuable reply, I am told that there are some changes made to the previous 98th CantonFair, the detail are as:

The 99th session of the China Export Commodities Fair, Know as Canton Fair is China's largest trade fair, a fair of the highest level, and of the most complete varieties will be held in Guangzhou on April 15 to 30, 2006 in a larger scale. The Pazhou and Liuhua Road exhibition halls will be used alternately during the whole fair.

According to Canton Fair, Some of the exhibition sections will be adjusted since the 98th Canton Fair.

1. The Exhibition Section of Foodstuffs & Tea, which was originally in CECF (Liuhua) Complex in Phase One will be exhibited in CECF (Pazhou) Complex in Phase Two (from April 25 to April 30).

2. The Exhibition Section of Footwear & Headgear, which was originally in CECF (Pazhou) Complex in Phase Two will be exhibited in CECF (Liuhua) Complex in Phase One (from April 15 to April 20).

3. The Exhibition Section of Jewellery, Bone Carvings & Jade Carvings will be cancelled, and the relative exhibits will be shown in the Exhibition Section of Gifts in CECF (Liuhua) Complex in Phase Two.

AngrySnake
03-09-06, 17:00
I am at the Regal Riviera Hotel in Guangzou can someonr give me the details on where to go around here?

MickTheFlick
03-10-06, 09:17
Hi!

I'm leaving for China next week 17thMarch, and I wonder if your kind enough to guide me which hotels with 3 star to stay in Guangzhou. In fact, I was told that there was a hotel directly oppsite of the main bus station in Guangzhou. Any idea? Your help and to those who are concern were be very much appreciate. I asure that I were let you members know what action I were find. I'm a regular member.

Tristan36
03-11-06, 01:34
I am at the Regal Riviera Hotel in Guangzou can someonr give me the details on where to go around here?I am sorry to tell you that near the Regal Riviera Hotel there is nothing.... There is a KTV in the -1 floor but they are not foreigner friendly so if you do not speak putonghua or Guandong hua you will not be able to do nothing in that KTV.

Go to the Garden Hotel area and you will find several discos around and some action on the street after 21.00. Read the forum for more information on that area of the city.

Please, if you find some action in the Regal Riviera Hotel, do not hesitate in sharing wiht the forum since there is few information in this area.

Take care

OldAsiaHand
03-11-06, 02:41
The King and I hooked up for lunch and some hunting. We visitied the area behind the Garden Hotel that I have previously posted about because I wanted to do the girl that was busy the last time we were there. Found her in the BBS, but she had some sores on her mouth, so I decided to pass and do the other girl in the shop. Turns out she was on the rag, so I ended up with a half ass BBBJ with more HJ than BJ. I am sure you guys know this drill. Damage was 100 RMB including the massage which I received about 10 minutes of total. Not recommended.

In the meantime, the King had fallen in love with a Beijing girl in a shop across the road. His heart and his didi overpowered his better judgement and he gave her 300 RMB for a HJ and some DATY. She would not do FS on the premises. He took her digits for future reference.

We stopped to explore a new area on the way back to the King's palace. We spent less than an hour hunting and only found one BBS with 3 girls. Actually the King sniffed it out. The girls were only about 1-2 on my scale. We sat down to chat. They offered 500 RMB FS. I asked them if it was for a week. They said 200 RMB and I asked if it was for 3 days. The finally came down to 150. I offered them 30 RMB as a joke and they gave me a dirty look and walked away. No loss.

On the way back to the car, we spotted a couple of potential freebies walking down the street. One of them was a real tall, stunner from Hunan, the other a little cutie from East GD. The King honed right in on Miss Hunan. To make a long story short, we had some coffee together and then we drove them to a supermarket. The King put on his moves which were a bit too aggressive for this normal, young thing and I think he scared her off. I needed to head home, but the King was supposed to go shopping with them. He stayed behind because he did not get any good vibes from the stunner. I thought he should have still gone for it. She was hot!

OAH

Savannah
03-11-06, 05:24
3 stars are everywhere. I wouldn't recommend anywhere near stations. Do a search on Ctrip.com or Elong.com and you should narrow it down to an area. There are plenty around Huanshi lu. GZ is pretty big and difficult to navigate. If you have business in a particular locale, you should stay near it. For new mongers in GZ huanshi lu has the easiest findings without a lot of walking. Mostly, these are SW though. I was there two weeks ago and there were plenty of attractive women working and not. However, choose quickyl. I made the mistake of waiting and when i returned it was raining. Not a soul to be fouind.

Fast Eddie 48
03-11-06, 07:35
Hi!

I'm leaving for China next week 17thMarch, and I wonder if your kind enough to guide me which hotels with 3 star to stay in Guangzhou. In fact, I was told that there was a hotel directly oppsite of the main bus station in Guangzhou. Any idea? Your help and to those who are concern were be very much appreciate. I asure that I were let you members know what action I were find. I'm a regular member.


to MICK

I have post a report a month ago on liu hua hotel right across from the main
train station next to bus station 3 star 340 rmb for new main tower 240 for
the east tower .

fast eddie 48

Weelock
03-11-06, 20:31
Hi!

I'm leaving for China next week 17thMarch, and I wonder if your kind enough to guide me which hotels with 3 star to stay in Guangzhou. In fact, I was told that there was a hotel directly oppsite of the main bus station in Guangzhou. Any idea? Your help and to those who are concern were be very much appreciate. I asure that I were let you members know what action I were find. I'm a regular member.

I guess you didn't see nor click on the link in a previous post on hotels during the fair. The link provided in the post had a listing of 5-4-3 stars hotel and even a few cheap 2 stars. The list contains well over 100 hotels. The price is $25-$35USD for the cheaper 3 stars. 4 stars a little higher.

Source : http://www.cantontradefair.com/hotel/

OldAsiaHand
03-12-06, 04:05
Weelock,

The guy said March 17. The fair does not start until April 15. Why would he want to pay trade fair rates during a normal rate period?

OAH





I guess you didn't see nor click on the link in a previous post on hotels during the fair. The link provided in the post had a listing of 5-4-3 stars hotel and even a few cheap 2 stars. The list contains well over 100 hotels. The price is $25-$35USD for the cheap 2 stars. 3 stars a little higher.

Source : http://www.cantontradefair.com/hotel/

Savannah
03-12-06, 08:59
I checked out the Huanshi Lu area again. Saturday night at 8:00 there were SW everywhere. I ate at a little pizza shop and there were several single females that did not seem like pros but were approachable. However, i was with a GF and just looked while she was doing her nails. A word of caution. I was approached by a group of 5 girls asking to give me a massage. They could not have been older than 17. This area is an easy place for new to China mongers, but be careful.

Further, has anyone been in the clothing buildings around Liuhua station? While I was waiting to meet my friend I bought her something. There are 100's of pretty girls in those shops. I definitely plan on returning. If anyone lucks into a freebie there, let me know. I felt they were not easily approachable but got a few nods from a few.

Weelock
03-12-06, 23:53
Weelock,

The guy said March 17. The fair does not start until April 15. Why would he want to pay trade fair rates during a normal rate period?

OAH

It list both the "normal rates" and the "trade fair rates", side by side. Basically, it a nice listing for hotels around Guangzhou. The price for a 3 star hotels are from around $25 to 33USD for "normal rates".

The website provides nice hotel links for additional information. Even for the "normal rates", usually you can just walk or call and still get a discount from what's listed for "normal rates".

Weelock

Erik
03-13-06, 01:30
Savannah,
Huanshi lu is a very long road, isn't it ? Can you be more specific please ?
Thanks.

Savannah
03-13-06, 03:37
I mean the Garden Hotel area. Most of the action is from Starbucks to Wall Street but within a half mile radius you never know what you'll find. OAH says behind the Garden hotel are some nice places. The past two times i have been there was some good talent.

Asian Steve 22
03-13-06, 13:30
Anybody know any good ones near the Garden hotel?

Guylovechina
03-22-06, 17:11
Hi everyone,

Going to Guangzhou for the first time in 2 weeks. Staying at the White Swan, and wondering where to find good and cheap action.

Inside the hotel and/or outside at walking distance.

Must be affordable.

Tks

Savannah
03-23-06, 05:15
Good cheap action is usually just an arms length away. Since you are to lazy to rttf, you should probably search as close as possible.

We have just written about GZ saunas. The consensus was to go to Dongguan.

Eaglestar
03-23-06, 05:30
Anybody know any good ones near the Garden hotel?


If you use the search function for Garden Hotel you will find three pages of postings..........

RTFF

Bill Lee
03-23-06, 22:21
White Swan is one of the worst place to be. Enclosed in an island and totally not girl friendly, at least after 11:00 p.m.

BTW, RTFF.

Bill


Hi everyone,

Going to Guangzhou for the first time in 2 weeks. Staying at the White Swan, and wondering where to find good and cheap action.

Inside the hotel and/or outside at walking distance.

Must be affordable.

Tks

Tiantain
03-24-06, 02:36
white swan is one of the worst place to be. enclosed in an island and totally not girl friendly, at least after 11:00 p.m.

btw, rtff.

bill
all the hotels are very difficult with visitors after 11:00pm. i even tried given money for them to look the other way, they would not accept the money. do not try to sneak a girl in without signing her in first. one time my father took this girl back to his room and did not sign her in, thinking no problem plus he did not want the manager (female) or staff to know he was taking a girl to his room to fuck. they both had their cloths off and she started giving him a bbbj when there was a knock at the door. he saw the manager and three police officers threw the peep hole. it was not a pretty site. i do not know what happen to the girl. she was a hottie, she was suppose to visit my room after pops was finished.

Weelock
03-24-06, 05:25
all the hotels are very difficult with visitors after 11:00pm. i even tried given money for them to look the other way, they would not accept the money. do not try to sneak a girl in without signing her in first. one time my father took this girl back to his room and did not sign her in, thinking no problem plus he did not want the manager (female) or staff to know he was taking a girl to his room to fuck. they both had their cloths off and she started giving him a bbbj when there was a knock at the door. he saw the manager and three police officers threw the peep hole. it was not a pretty site. i do not know what happen to the girl. she was a hottie, she was suppose to visit my room after pops was finished.

tiantain:

just curious, what’s the name of the hotel and how long ago was it.

i thought it was fine after 11pm for some hotels as long you sign in the girls.
i guess each hotel is different.

weelock

Weelock
03-24-06, 05:33
Hi everyone,

Going to Guangzhou for the first time in 2 weeks. Staying at the White Swan, and wondering where to find good and cheap action.

Inside the hotel and/or outside at walking distance.

Must be affordable.

Tks

Strange, if you can afford to stay at an expensive 5 star, then why would you still want cheap action? For getting cheap action, there is nothing around there that's walking distance.

Fast Eddie 48
03-24-06, 10:09
Strange, if you can afford to stay at an expensive 5 star, then why would you still want cheap action? For getting cheap action, there is nothing around there that's walking distance.


to weelock

Hey weelock may be his company is paying for the hotel but not the p4p , I
know this the case for me , If my company is paying or I own my company
then is las vegas and crown prince and cinese every night .

fast eddie 48

Weelock
03-24-06, 10:58
to weelock

Hey weelock may be his company is paying for the hotel but not the p4p , I
know this the case for me , If my company is paying or I own my company then is las vegas and crown prince and cinese every night .

fast eddie 48

Hi Eddie:

Come to think about it, your are right, sorry Guylovechina. In that case, then he or his company picked the wrong hotel for action. I was there across the street for lunch once ( dim sum ). After lunch, went inside to look around the hotel. Had a nice big fish pond and stores. Noticed several white couples with Chinese babies. I guess they just adopt kids. I think it's more of a family ( legit ) hotel and maybe because the US Embassy is nearby.

Guylovechina
03-24-06, 13:27
You're right weelock, I didn't choose the hotel, and yes, company paying the bill.
Anyway,I'll try to explore the hotel and the area and hope to come back with some interesting info

Tiantain
03-24-06, 19:07
Tiantain:

Just curious, what’s the name of the hotel and how long ago was it.

I thought it was fine after 11pm for some hotels as long you sign in the girls.
I guess each hotel is different.

Weelock
I normally stay at the DongFang or China Hotel across from the canton fair. The case with my father was at the Holiday Inn and it was about 8-9 years ago.

Bill Lee
03-24-06, 21:54
hitting the KTVs along the harbor. But if you're a stranger in a strange land, be prepared to be taken advantage of. It's a fifteen minute walk to the harbor from the hotel.

Another 30 minute walk to Beijing Road, where the shopping stores are.

There's really nothing on the island where White Swan hotel is at.

Bill


You're right weelock, I didn't choose the hotel, and yes, company paying the bill.
Anyway,I'll try to explore the hotel and the area and hope to come back with some interesting info

Bill Lee
03-24-06, 22:00
I could never do that.

I'll give you extra points for partying with dear old dad.

I'll been to the Holiday Inn myself. Couldn't register my local girlfriend with the front desk until I showed them our marriage certificate. Ah, the awesome power of cut and paste.

Bill


I normally stay at the DongFang or China Hotel across from the canton fair. The case with my father was at the Holiday Inn and it was about 8-9 years ago.

Tiantain
03-25-06, 20:52
I could never do that.

I'll give you extra points for partying with dear old dad.

I'll been to the Holiday Inn myself. Couldn't register my local girlfriend with the front desk until I showed them our marriage certificate. Ah, the awesome power of cut and paste.

Bill
Just to let you know my mother and father has been divorced for 35+ years, so it’s not like he is cheating on my mother. If they were still together I would kick his ass if he ever did something like that. My father and I have had a lot of fun together. He has even shared his regulars with me, man the stories I could tell.

FairTourist
03-27-06, 15:16
Dear gentleman,

I have trip to Guangzhou at April (to the Kanton Fair)

I stay in the Wa King Town Hotel. Do somebody know this?

I have seen the maps, but I don´t know where the hotel is. Also I seek for it in the forum. 0 results. I know only this: Dadao, Tianhe.

Can somebody help me? Is it a good place for girls? Do somebody know something in this area. I read here 2 hours, but the most thing are about the golden swan or garden eden.

Also can you send me a link where the token are descript?

Perhaps somebody else is in April there and we can start together. Because I do the trip alone.

I would be glad for soe mesages.

Thanks

Bill Lee
03-27-06, 20:55
what was the hotel and where was that hotel? was this after the 11:00 p.m. cutoff?

bill


all the hotels are very difficult with visitors after 11:00pm. i even tried given money for them to look the other way, they would not accept the money. do not try to sneak a girl in without signing her in first. one time my father took this girl back to his room and did not sign her in, thinking no problem plus he did not want the manager (female) or staff to know he was taking a girl to his room to fuck. they both had their cloths off and she started giving him a bbbj when there was a knock at the door. he saw the manager and three police officers threw the peep hole. it was not a pretty site. i do not know what happen to the girl. she was a hottie, she was suppose to visit my room after pops was finished.

Cebu Local
03-31-06, 23:55
OAH
I will be visiting Guangzhou this May 8-12 WITHOUT my religous conservative Business partner.Lets hook up if you are free, furthermore I promise not to overpay this time.Ramada Pearl as usuall for another training seminar.

Savannah
04-01-06, 04:07
Fairtourist,

Tianhe is centrally located. You should have no problem finding action near you. I do not know the hotel you mentioed, but if you get in a taxi and say huayuan jiudian, they will take you to the garden hotel. This is a good place for those new to china. However, be prepared for price hikes during the fair.

Have fun.

Ditto88
04-02-06, 10:36
Stayed at Yun Shan Hotel and was terribly bored and tired after a full day of walking the wholesale markets. Decided to call a friend on cheap massage recomendations. He directed me to a place nearby at Shui Yin Lu. Took a 7 buck taxi ride to the place and went in. Was greeted by 3 nice hostesses who led me to the changing area. Went for the dip at the pool and sauna. Proceeded to the lounge area where food and drinks was served. The patrons were all locals and asians and was quite full. Finished food and a pretty looking captain came over asking me of my preferred taste of massage girl. Told her to pick one as pretty as her and she led me to a hall with massage rooms which was lit by red lights which was kinda creepy. Massage girl 119 from Hunan took off my robe and directed me to the massage bed. Finished back massage and change beds ( There's another round bed at the corner ) for frontal massage. While doing the legs and inner thighs, her thumb was either consciously or maybe unconsciously stroking my balls which made my little brother wake. Needless to say, finished the massage with a great and gentle HJ with lots of finger stroking.

Massage time : 2 hours
Total time spent : 4 hours
Total damage : RMB 210

OldAsiaHand
04-02-06, 14:32
I'll definitely get downtown to see you. How about a side trip to CP or Nansha?

OAH


OAH
I will be visiting Guangzhou this May 8-12 WITHOUT my religous conservative Business partner.Lets hook up if you are free, furthermore I promise not to overpay this time.Ramada Pearl as usuall for another training seminar.

FairTourist
04-02-06, 22:57
Can you tell me how long would it need from Tinahe (the wa king town hotel nobody knows because their is no answer) to the garden hotel by taxi?


Fairtourist,

Tianhe is centrally located. You should have no problem finding action near you. I do not know the hotel you mentioed, but if you get in a taxi and say huayuan jiudian, they will take you to the garden hotel. This is a good place for those new to china. However, be prepared for price hikes during the fair.

Have fun.

DayNight
04-03-06, 02:33
some general rules.....: (no matter where in CN you are)

1. Check if your hotel has a sauna or massage place
2. Check if your hotel has room massage

There is a 95% chance for sex with above

If the answer was no + no - go out!

For cheap sex, look around in more dodgy parts. Look for small shops with blue windows or pink lights inside, which house a few, bored looking girls, usually sluttish dressed.

Some may go your hotel, some may not. Try it.

Language is no problem at all as long as you speak mandarin. If not, body language works too.

Note: if the price is quoted RMB30-50 then it's a HJ place.

Not finding sex in China is like not getting petrol at a gas station.



Dear gentleman,

I have trip to Guangzhou at April (to the Kanton Fair)

I stay in the Wa King Town Hotel. Do somebody know this?

I have seen the maps, but I don´t know where the hotel is. Also I seek for it in the forum. 0 results. I know only this: Dadao, Tianhe.

Can somebody help me? Is it a good place for girls? Do somebody know something in this area. I read here 2 hours, but the most thing are about the golden swan or garden eden.

Also can you send me a link where the token are descript?

Perhaps somebody else is in April there and we can start together. Because I do the trip alone.

I would be glad for soe mesages.

Thanks

Ace Gallant
04-03-06, 03:02
Thanks OAH (+ Mr. B, which I don't know his handle) and Cronin for bringing me to Nansha. Especially Cronin for traveling all the way downtown to get me!

I been great experience on farmgirls. That place is a BBS paradise! Too bad I had prior arrangement back in my hotel with a cutie that night otherwise I could stay there till next morning! Hope to be able to go out there again soon. Since returning to Shanghai, I been telling the Shanghai gang about it and they are all excited and thought I should organize a tour to Nansha and CP sometime in May.

Too bad I miss out on CP, I am sure it would be even greater place.

Its been a great trip and I will post my other adventures in Guangzhou, Dongguan, Nansha, Shenzhen, HongKong later.

Thanks again OAH, Cronin and Mr. B hope to see yu guy again very soon.

AG

Ace Gallant
04-03-06, 03:04
Stayed at Yun Shan Hotel and was terribly bored and tired after a full day of walking the wholesale markets. Decided to call a friend on cheap massage recomendations. He directed me to a place nearby at Shui Yin Lu. Took a 7 buck taxi ride to the place and went in. Was greeted by 3 nice hostesses who led me to the changing area. Went for the dip at the pool and sauna. Proceeded to the lounge area where food and drinks was served. The patrons were all locals and asians and was quite full. Finished food and a pretty looking captain came over asking me of my preferred taste of massage girl. Told her to pick one as pretty as her and she led me to a hall with massage rooms which was lit by red lights which was kinda creepy. Massage girl 119 from Hunan took off my robe and directed me to the massage bed. Finished back massage and change beds ( There's another round bed at the corner ) for frontal massage. While doing the legs and inner thighs, her thumb was either consciously or maybe unconsciously stroking my balls which made my little brother wake. Needless to say, finished the massage with a great and gentle HJ with lots of finger stroking.

Massage time : 2 hours
Total time spent : 4 hours
Total damage : RMB 210

Ditto,

You don't have to go out of Yun Shan to get anything. The hotel has a in house massage and KTV. I checked them out when I was there a week ago. Most of the girl do ST or LT. but the price is higher for KTV side as the girls are prettier.

AG

FairTourist
04-03-06, 09:59
Thank you,

Yes I have been there last year. The hotel has a sauna place, and i get a fine massage with hj at the end. (very fine). But if i ask for more she said no. So I don´t know if only this girl do not more or every girl. I do massage only one time.

So i wanted to try other. I only speak english. But i will try. Perhaps i take a picture of my massage girl from wa king town hotel. Very nice.

Do you know how for is the garden hotel from the wa king town hotel? How long do i have to drive with the taxi? Wa king is in Tianhe!

Thanks a lot.


some general rules.....: (no matter where in CN you are)

1. Check if your hotel has a sauna or massage place
2. Check if your hotel has room massage

There is a 95% chance for sex with above

If the answer was no + no - go out!

For cheap sex, look around in more dodgy parts. Look for small shops with blue windows or pink lights inside, which house a few, bored looking girls, usually sluttish dressed.

Some may go your hotel, some may not. Try it.

Language is no problem at all as long as you speak mandarin. If not, body language works too.

Note: if the price is quoted RMB30-50 then it's a HJ place.

Not finding sex in China is like not getting petrol at a gas station.

FairTourist
04-03-06, 10:02
Do you know how long do i have to drive from Wa King Hotel (Tinhe) to the garden hotel? With the taxi! How many minutes?

Thanks


Fairtourist,

Tianhe is centrally located. You should have no problem finding action near you. I do not know the hotel you mentioed, but if you get in a taxi and say huayuan jiudian, they will take you to the garden hotel. This is a good place for those new to china. However, be prepared for price hikes during the fair.

Have fun.

Babaluba
04-03-06, 16:01
Hi,

Pretty new to this board. Checked the threads and most action seems to be on the well known spots like garden hotel, more in south GZ or north. I also must admit I am not into the dirt cheap stuff and prefer spending little more for quality. For late night visits I wanna find some places close by in Tian He.

Does anyone know a good full service massage / bath place in Tian He? Or a KTV for the beloved purpose?

Thanks for any hint,

Babaloo

Legal Lad
04-03-06, 22:58
Babaloo,

Like you, I like the KTV scene, and prefer a good sauna and KTV over the catacombs any day. There is a lot of action to be had in GZ, but they will be more expensive then say Dongguan.

IN GZ,I usually go to the Asia Nightclub at the Asia International Hotel (5 star) or Da Hao Chang KTV (there are 3 in the Tien He District). Price average 300 for the gal to sit next to ya for the night. One shot around 500-600 RMB, and overnights 1000-1500. The quality of the girls are pretty good.

Have fun!

'lad

Ace Gallant
04-04-06, 05:00
Part 1

Rolled into Guangzhou,

First afternoon in Guangzhou was absolutely boring cause the internet does not work and I have no ideal where to find good fun without excess to ISG.

Walked a around Dong Fang Hotel and the Guangzhou fair area, lots of people but cannot figuare out which are part girls to the locals. finally ended up at the Statbucks cafe in China Hotel (Marriot). Had a coffee and thought the waitress was extremely friendly. Started a chat and find out that she was from Guangxi. We exchange jokes and information and of course I put on my charms, that I am business man here on Guangzhou consumer fair, I owe a medical supply business and is travelling all over the place....blah blah blah... Than she started with interest and asking about whether I am married, (Of course I am not) and chat about me getting a wife from China blah blah blah... Than I took her cue... she ask for my room number and said that she is off work at 11pm. Great! I can smell a freebie coming... of course I was never in the south China so I do not know it is going to be a freebie or a paid experience.

Got back to Dong Fang Hotel at 10:30, tried the internet, dam still does not works... watch TV... a hour past... and phone hang... the security at 1st Floor called saying that there is this Waitress from Star Bucks delivering some snacks and coffee... At first I was stunt and almost said I did not ordered any but I came to senses and said "Ok send her up".

She got in, and we chat for a while... she started to ask the same old questions again about "Am I serious about having a wife in China?" Blah blah blah... I said yes. She got into the shower saying that it been a long day as there were a lot of customer due to the fair. Came out with a tower around her asking me to be gentle with her! I pretended to be stupid... and Said "Gentle? For what? why are you naked? You want to spend the night here?? I am a wolf, I cannot resist young stranger girl, especially naked ones..." She said "Well, after tonight I'll be your wife and we will not be stranger... but please be gentle because I am a virgin...." I was thinking : "Yah right! Virgin and so open? this is first time we met and she give her cherry to me?" But whatever it is... she is naked in front of me... why wastle? Started my full routine, kissing, fondering, fingering... when I insert the tip of my finger into her pussy, she would scream out "Pain Pain!" Wastling no time, I position myself missionary and insert my dicky into her "Virgin" pussy... she screamed out "Pain Pain Pain!" But I can tell it is fake! At first I thought of using the rubbers but I thought, hey, she is working in Starbucks and she is hadnling food and drinks, so I reckon she has all the medical cleared or else she will not be able to work there! So I did her bareback for about an hour... Although I don't think she is virgin, (Base on my experience) she is quite tight, definately not a Pros. She only know missionary and I have to teach her how to ride me and also doggy. In the whole process there was no blood (Well... not all virgin bleed on the first fuck...not to mention this one may not be Virgin!

This girl was very GFE, tight hugs and deep kiss... She don't know BJ or anything else and sure made me feels very good!

too be continued....

Ace Gallant
04-04-06, 05:14
Part 2

This is when I got really stupid! She was riding me and because of the tightness I could not hold back I had already at least 60 mins of good fuck, Not enough time for me to pull it out as she was on top, I unloaded into her.

She hugs me so tight whipering... I love you I love you.... (Yah Right!) When I recovered... I pulled her into the shower and started washing her especially the pussy, in attempt to clean her off my male juice. In that process she did not complain of any pain even though at one time I had 3 fingers inside her... but I can see it in her face that she was enjoying it... so since that is the case... I did her another round inside the showers.... This time I also taught her how to BJ. After about 30 mins I poped into her mouth and told her to swallow them all... she didas I said and left not a single drop. Complained that it was very saltish...

Back to bed... and continue to pound her a few times more... by the time it was 6am both of us was dried out. At 9am she got up, dress up said that she needs to go home and left, I was ready to pay her 500 as it was a good night! But before I would say anything; she saw me pulling out my wallet and said; "Ah... good... I don't have much cash with me... can you give me 100 so that I can take a Taxi home... I am too tired to take the train home." I took out a 100 and she left. So I got a freebie after all???

That not the case... read on to part 3 to find out what I got! Promise you it is one of the funniest incident I ever come across!

Continue to Part 3

AG

Ace Gallant
04-04-06, 05:32
Part 3

At 3pm after finishing my walk around the consumer fair, I went to Starbuck, thought that she would be working by than. She is not there so I asked the waiter who was working with her the night before. "Jin Jin? She is not working here anymore..." (Jinjin is her name) "But I was speaking to her just night??" Waiter: "Oh... last night was her last day at work... she quit!" me: "She quit or was fired?" (I was thinking that she would be fired if managment found that she was sleeping with customer...) Waiter: "No, she quits, I think she she said she wants to go to the North, Beijing or Shanghai and make better money".

I pick up my cell and called her. She did not pick up the call but called me back later. I asked her why she never tells me that she quit. She said she is going to leave Guangzhou, and she since she is my wife now, she will follow me to Shanghai and be my good good wife.

"Hey Hey Hey... I did not said that I want you to be my wife... and I did not promise you that I will bring you with me back to Shanghai!" And she replied: "But But I gave you my Cherry! you have to be responsible!" :Me: "Yah... but I don't think you are virgin when I did you, besides, responsible? for what? You came to my room at your own will, not that I ask you to!" Here is the funniest part: She said: "Yes Yes... But I got your baby now... you cannot leave me with your child in Guangzhou!"

When I heard that... I laugh till I fell off my seat! Boy was she fast in finding out that she got pregnant from last night Fertilization! Doesn't she know it takes at least 24 hours before the "tapoles" to swim up to the egg and it takes at least 1 week before anyone can detect that she is pregnant?

Told her to stop all these nonsense and Fxxk off! This is definately a setup and I am not falling for it.

Got back to my hotel and suggested to switched room which the hotel staff was very willing.

So... I don't know but this is my first experience in Guangzhou and one of the funniest one I ever had in my mongering life. Are th girls in the South that naive or stupid? They knows how the plot the whole story but did not get the facts right! Boy was that fun!

The End

AG

Savannah
04-04-06, 06:42
It should not be more than 5-10 minutes to The Huayuan Jiudian from anywhere in Tianhe. I still do not know that hotel, but if you are anywhere near the Tee mall it is very close. Taxi should be about 8-12 yuan. I don't know if they hike the rate like everything else for the fair. I think action will be plentiful everywhere. Just don't be too shy to say hello. Keep reading the forum. I am sure those who know will soon post their knowledge of fair prices and logistics. I'll go to Dg and SZ during the fair.

Happy times.

Cebu Local
04-04-06, 12:10
Part 3


So... I don't know but this is my first experience in Guangzhou and one of the funniest one I ever had in my mongering life. Are th girls in the South that naive or stupid? They knows how the plot the whole story but did not get the facts right! Boy was that fun!

The End

AGA wise old monger once told me nothing is free,There are no freebies,You pay one way or another emotionally or financially.But considering that She quit her job thinking she was headed to Shanghai I kinda lean towards she was naive and stupid.But I would watch my comments on that being kinda fun.These girls if they feel they have been fooled and their lives are ruined are capable of going postal.I hope you did not give her any clues of your real name and contact details.A guy I used to work with in Beijing got a Beijing Student s cherry then dumped her.Her relatives ambushed him one night and worked him over with iron bars.He hopefully will be able to start to walk after 3 years of Therapy.I dont think that was fun for him.Next time when you get a naive stupid girl,there are gentler ways to drop her.You suddenly got recalled home and other BS like that.Play safe and best regards

Babaluba
04-04-06, 15:45
Babaloo,

IN GZ,I usually go to the Asia Nightclub at the Asia International Hotel (5 star) or Da Hao Chang KTV (there are 3 in the Tien He District). Price average 300 for the gal to sit next to ya for the night. One shot around 500-600 RMB, and overnights 1000-1500. The quality of the girls are pretty good.

Have fun!

'ladThanks legal lad , seems i gotta try those. So your taking the KTV girls back to your hotel or do they have rooms for the activities beside singing nearby?

Also I am afraid I am not speaking Chinese well enough to find the place just by pronounciation. Do you have a specific location for lets say the best of the three Da Hao Chang KTVs in your opinion, as you mentioned? If I know the street i will find it, haha

Thanks again,

Babaloo

Ace Gallant
04-04-06, 18:13
.Play safe and best regards

Thanks to all the fellow mongers for all the good advise over the PMs. Especially to Cebu Local and Changsu.

Yes, I have never given her my real name or leave her with any trace to contact me. As I know it will be a mongering trip south , I had got myself a new Guangzhou SIM card (Guangzhou number) once I am out of Guangzhou I did not use it any more. The name I use to register the SIM card is one from Phillippines which is also un traceable.

I agree to the fact that nothing is free in this world, it is either you pay now or you pay later. But I guess for this case, I did not pay her but she got what she wanted.... some real good sex!

As I said also, I am quite sure that she do not have her cherry any more when I do her. So she has nothing to lose.

The message that I am trying to get across here is to fellow foreigners, they will try anything to get what they want! fake pregnancy, losing their Cherry to you, or even threathen to report you to police. (I have a separate incident in Dong Guan which I will report about on Dong Guan thread.) Play safe and always keep you back covered!

AG

Ditto88
04-04-06, 19:59
Asian Gambler,

Thanks for the tip but prices at the hotels Sauna or even the KTV is bloody expensive compared to the ones outside.

I would rather call up the KTV girl from Panyu to join me in GZ for a few days if i really get desperate !! I might even get discount for a straight booking.



Ditto,

You don't have to go out of Yun Shan to get anything. The hotel has a in house massage and KTV. I checked them out when I was there a week ago. Most of the girl do ST or LT. but the price is higher for KTV side as the girls are prettier.

AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 00:59
Asian Gambler,

Thanks for the tip but prices at the hotels Sauna or even the KTV is bloody expensive compared to the ones outside.

I would rather call up the KTV girl from Panyu to join me in GZ for a few days if i really get desperate !! I might even get discount for a straight booking.

Well, you pay for convinence.. like you will pay a little more if you buy a drink at the nearest 7-11 than buying from the local supermarket.

I did check out the Sauna and KTV at Yun San; the quality are pretty good. And if I don't remember wrongly, Sauna is @ 500 FS included and KTV is 1,200 LT. Regulars please comment if I got it wrong.

Of course we can get muxh cheaper price in more rural area, like example; OAH, Cronin and I were at Nansha, LT is only 350! And all these are farmgirls! But the fact that you have to travel 1 hour 30 minutes to get there....

Anyways, enjoy Guangzhou!

AG

Prince Leo
04-05-06, 07:31
Travel to Huangqi, about 20 mins from GZ, pretty close to Fangcun. You can get LT for 250 and ST for 130. That is the standard local rate. Or go further down the Guang Fo Road to Dali, for more selection and the same price. One word of caution, I won't recommand going to Dali solo, always go with at least one other person. Good Luck and Have Fun.


Well, you pay for convinence.. like you will pay a little more if you buy a drink at the nearest 7-11 than buying from the local supermarket.

I did check out the Sauna and KTV at Yun San; the quality are pretty good. And if I don't remember wrongly, Sauna is @ 500 FS included and KTV is 1,200 LT. Regulars please comment if I got it wrong.

Of course we can get muxh cheaper price in more rural area, like example; OAH, Cronin and I were at Nansha, LT is only 350! And all these are farmgirls! But the fact that you have to travel 1 hour 30 minutes to get there....

Anyways, enjoy Guangzhou!

AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 08:50
Travel to Huangqi, about 20 mins from GZ, pretty close to Fangcun. You can get LT for 250 and ST for 130. That is the standard local rate. Or go further down the Guang Fo Road to Dali, for more selection and the same price. One word of caution, I won't recommand going to Dali solo, always go with at least one other person. Good Luck and Have Fun.

Thanks for the info PL,

But let us not forget that as a Non-local, who does not speak much Mandarin, do you think it is advisable for them to travel out that far? Or in other words; I don't know it is possible for them to be able to get there without getting lost. And again those are local rates, I know that these places the moment they see foreigners, the price goes up to double.

So, yes you are right "I won't recommand going to Dali solo, always go with at least one other person." : Go with someone local or at least someone who speak the local language.

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 10:06
After the incident I had in Dong Fang Hotel, I moved to China Hotel (Marriot) I was told that this is a totally GF unfriendly hotel and as the reported by several members of the board. However I had discovered loop holes to their security.

If you notice after 11pm the 24hrs McDonald next to China hotel is especially crowded with girls and you wonder where have all the guys gone? I was told by a Taxi driver 80% of these girls are SWs, except that due to tight security from China hotel, they do not walk the streets near or around the Hotel. Why 11pm? Because the side doors of the Hotel close at 11pm. The Security will stop any unresistered guest from the main entance.

I was coming back from a meeting on my second night in GZ and it was 12:05am so I decided to try out McDonalds. The moment I walked in I noticed a dozen of eyes looking at me. The moment I ordered a burger using English, I can felt a dozen of smiles coming at me. I guess my English gave away my identity as a foreigner. (I am ABC so I am Chinese looking). The moment I seat down to have a bite at my burger, I was approached by a very ugly girls asking me if I like to "Play" I shook my head and continue my Burger. In the next 10 minutes while I was there, I been approached by 3 different girls and finally settled with one of them at about 7 for 300 / LT.

Now the next problem I had is how to slip this SW into my Hotel. Not a problem! The SWs told me what to do! Procedures:

1) Buy Take out from Mc Donalds - Make sure that they put it in a prominant McDonalds Carrier.
2) Have the girl carry the take out.
3) Pass the hotel card key to the girl,
4) Tell her your registered Last Name or if you dare, your full name and your Room No.
5) Walk into the Hotel together and pretend that you are couples coming back from outhings. Do not hurry. Walk in a leisure manner.
6) If the security stop any of you, make sure you have your girl show him the card key and tell him the room no. = Security will not further question.
7) If the security stopped the girl, make sure you do not leave her alone and tell the security that you are couple and have her show him the Card key and tell him the room no.

In my incident; both of us walked into the main entance the security looked at both of us and I smile and said to me "Good Evening" (In Chinese), I said "Good Evening" (In English) and we proceed without further conversation. We proceeded to our room without further stopped by any security although there was another security posted at the Elevator lobby.

Apparantly this method was also told to me by a taxi driver and it seems to be a known secrets among these girls and taxi drivers Now. Not too sure it works for other 5 stars hotels but it sure works for China Hotel and Guangdong International Hotel (Seperate posting on this hotel).

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 10:16
Went to this hotel to meet up with Mock-A-Bee from the Beijing board at about 10am.

The sign on the elevator lobby Reads: "No Unregistered Guest after 11pm" but as I walk near the entance I was approached by 3 ugly and old SWs outside the Hotel!

In a seperate adventure, MAB had not problems at all to sneak a SW into his Hotel after 12am.

Guangzhou International Hotel is a reasonable price (500RMB/night during peak or non-peak seasons) 5 stars hotel not too far away from Garden Hotel. And most important GF friendly!.

AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 11:12
MAB and I took a walk from Guangzhou International Hotel towards Garden Hotel direction. Came across the Mango Bar. (Across from Garden Hotel)

Went into it to check it out. Seems like there are a number of freelances who immediately approached us asking whether we need a girlfriend for the night.

But the quality of this place is bad! All of them are at least 30 and ugly! shaking our heads we left the Mango Bar for the next bar in the row (Can't remember the name) the same things happens. Old Ugly Hecks!

We proceed to the Hill Top bar slightly down the road but up a small hill. Nice little place with some cute waitress too...but we did not see any freelancers around.

The only good part of both bars is that the waitress look pretty nice but we doubt that there will be any movement for them to be our GF for the night on them so we left them alone.

So
For waitress fun... all 3 bars = OK
For Freelancer... 1st 2 bars = Old Hecks, Hill top bar = None.

As it was late, we headed into Best Western Hotel (Bai Yun Hotel) for Sauna.

Tune in next for Best Western Hotel Sauna....

AG

Ditto88
04-05-06, 12:09
Asian Gambler,

Agree completely on the convenience part but i tend not to go into the hotels sauna now unless i know the actual price for the full package and the price beforehand. 500 bucks is outrageously expensive. That's about 3 bonks with different girl in Changping for the wholeday with some extra change for McD's...hehe.

I had a unforgetable experience at a sauna in a 4 star hotel in Shantou. Massage was 238 and the girl had the nerve to ask for 600 extra for a HJ. I told her that i could have bought a whole pig for that price and still have change !!

Since i found excuses to go to Panyu and Changping for business, i keep my little brother in my pants whenever i am in Guangzhou. Anyway, i tend to go for the KTV girls. Maybe, we can meet up next time i get into GZ, i can't finish the minimum order of beer anyways.


Well, you pay for convinence.. like you will pay a little more if you buy a drink at the nearest 7-11 than buying from the local supermarket.

I did check out the Sauna and KTV at Yun San; the quality are pretty good. And if I don't remember wrongly, Sauna is @ 500 FS included and KTV is 1,200 LT. Regulars please comment if I got it wrong.

Of course we can get muxh cheaper price in more rural area, like example; OAH, Cronin and I were at Nansha, LT is only 350! And all these are farmgirls! But the fact that you have to travel 1 hour 30 minutes to get there....

Anyways, enjoy Guangzhou!

AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 15:17
Asian Gambler,

Agree completely on the convenience part but i tend not to go into the hotels sauna now unless i know the actual price for the full package and the price beforehand. 500 bucks is outrageously expensive. That's about 3 bonks with different girl in Changping for the wholeday with some extra change for McD's...hehe.

I had a unforgetable experience at a sauna in a 4 star hotel in Shantou. Massage was 238 and the girl had the nerve to ask for 600 extra for a HJ. I told her that i could have bought a whole pig for that price and still have change !!

Since i found excuses to go to Panyu and Changping for business, i keep my little brother in my pants whenever i am in Guangzhou. Anyway, i tend to go for the KTV girls. Maybe, we can meet up next time i get into GZ, i can't finish the minimum order of beer anyways.

Well... we cannot compare apples to oranges... In Shanghai where I live Saunas start at 600 and ST start at 400. So I think it only fair to say it all depends on where you are and what you want.

Panyu (where OAH mongers) has nice and cheap places for sure and not to mention CP.

I don;t come down to GZ often but if I do or any mongers wants to catch up with a beer in Shanghai or Beijing, I am open to invitations.

Enjoy yourself!
AG

Ace Gallant
04-05-06, 15:40
after an unsuccessful hunt at the bars across garden hotels; mab and i decide to head for the best western hotel (bai yun hotel) sauna. as we were entering the hotel we noticed there are a numbers of cuties sitting at the waiting sofa near the entance. wow...! some of them are real cute!

we kept on walking toward the elevators up to the sauna is on the 3rd level. was bought to the changing area, showers and waiting area. what the difference from the normal saunas we are familiar with is that this sauna does not have a hot pool (or some fellow mongers called that the bacteria pool!). you cannot get a soak after a tiring day! lead into the resting area and was served with fruits and drinks or beer. 2 mama san came and spoke to us, as we were the only customer there. mab and i thought that the manager (mama san) ms lan, was cute! we got her mobile and promise to pull her out for some lunch sometimes. too bad our stay in gz was too short!

after some foot massage we were ready for our extras.

i got no. 121, 5/10 skinny girl from jiangsu. same old massage nothing special. than she asked whether i want to extra portion. the extra is a hj with a little convincing, i got a bbbj as well. she told me that there is no fs in this sauna and i look at her i don't feel like doing her anyways.... her bbbj was nothing great but her hj was pretty good! i should say she is the only girl who is able to make me pop with hj in under 30 mins!

dressing up, i was out to the resting area waited for mab which was out in another 5mins. chat with manager lan and left around 1:30am

damage : 438 for whole package and extra 50 for the foot massage and pedicure.
overall it is a good way to relax after a long day at the fair and with a little extra!

next report, sws next to garden hotel.....

ag

oops... i think i will hold off posting on this thread for the next few days because i just notice i had flooded this thread will my posting. sorry about that.... also catch my posting #713, #714 in dongguan thread on **** girls scam warning!

Prince Leo
04-05-06, 17:01
Dali is not really non-local friendly, but Huangqi is. I have seen foreigners frequent the bbs in Huangqi and negotiate the local rate. There are some non-Chinese living in this town. Sure, they will start with 300-500 ST, but if you know the local pricing, they will come to it quickly. As for Dali, if you don't speak the language or if you are new to the area, it would not be a good place to monger.


Thanks for the info PL,

But let us not forget that as a Non-local, who does not speak much Mandarin, do you think it is advisable for them to travel out that far? Or in other words; I don't know it is possible for them to be able to get there without getting lost. And again those are local rates, I know that these places the moment they see foreigners, the price goes up to double.

So, yes you are right "I won't recommand going to Dali solo, always go with at least one other person." : Go with someone local or at least someone who speak the local language.

Enjoy!
AG

LittleGoomba
04-05-06, 17:09
A funny thing from today.....

I was sitting in a Starbucks in Shenzhen tapping out email when I got into a pretty good conversation with one of the girls working here. The conversation and body language was definately moving towards freebie-land and I was looking for the kill when something suddenly occurred to me...."Wait a second, this girl is very friendly, looking for a 'meaningful' relationship, works in a Starbucks, and is from Guangxi.....holy sh-t, this couldn't be the same girl that nearly (laugh) reeled Asian Gambler in? Then I remembered that AG's brush with wedded bliss occurred in Guangzhou while I'm in Shenzhen. The Starbucks people may be seeing an inexplicable exodus of their Guangxi staff at this rate!

Still, the coincidence was worth a chuckle.

Cebu Local
04-06-06, 00:43
I'll definitely get downtown to see you. How about a side trip to CP or Nansha?

OAHI can defenitely hook up,Since my nights are going to be free,But I,ll take a pass on the catacombs.Maybe something a bit milder,See you soon on your next trip

Cebu Local
04-06-06, 00:48
A funny thing from today.....

I was sitting in a Starbucks in Shenzhen tapping out email when I got into a pretty good conversation with one of the girls working here. The conversation and body language was definately moving towards freebie-land and I was looking for the kill when something suddenly occurred to me...."Wait a second, this girl is very friendly, looking for a 'meaningful' relationship, works in a Starbucks, and is from Guangxi.....holy sh-t, this couldn't be the same girl that nearly (laugh) reeled Asian Gambler in? Then I remembered that AG's brush with wedded bliss occurred in Guangzhou while I'm in Shenzhen. The Starbucks people may be seeing an inexplicable exodus of their Guangxi staff at this rate!

Still, the coincidence was worth a chuckle.I had a similiar experience in the Starbucks in Shanghai,really friendly,Started asking if I have a girlfriend etc etc.Too bad I was in Shanghai,Where my Significant other is,Too risky......What does Starbucks put into the Coffee anyway.

Ace Gallant
04-06-06, 00:54
A funny thing from today.....

I was sitting in a Starbucks in Shenzhen tapping out email when I got into a pretty good conversation with one of the girls working here. The conversation and body language was definately moving towards freebie-land and I was looking for the kill when something suddenly occurred to me...."Wait a second, this girl is very friendly, looking for a 'meaningful' relationship, works in a Starbucks, and is from Guangxi.....holy sh-t, this couldn't be the same girl that nearly (laugh) reeled Asian Gambler in? Then I remembered that AG's brush with wedded bliss occurred in Guangzhou while I'm in Shenzhen. The Starbucks people may be seeing an inexplicable exodus of their Guangxi staff at this rate!

Still, the coincidence was worth a chuckle.

Well, what do you know? They could be the same girl or they could be the same type from Guangxi who is programmed to "kill" with the same method?

After all they are manufactured in the same area (Guangxi)? Hahaha....

If you finally take off their panties you might be able to read the version and serial no. off their butts, scan their ball codes with your "scanner" stick? hahahaha....! Good luck with her and remember be gentle.... she might be another "virgin"...

Enjoy!
AG

Cebu Local
04-06-06, 01:06
I will be in Guangzhou this May,Do you have be fluent in Mandarin or Cantonese to "interconnect" with them.What if your Mandarin is Basic??I have a Filipino Chinese travelling with me looking for a freebie fling when I visit in May.He s young Late 20 s,Rich {family owns 2 malls in the Philippines as well as a hotel},Single.He will be scouting for freebie action.But this is his first visit to China except for Shenzen.Any suggestions where to direct him??

Ace Gallant
04-06-06, 01:38
I will be in Guangzhou this May,Do you have be fluent in Mandarin or Cantonese to "interconnect" with them.What if your Mandarin is Basic??I have a Filipino Chinese travelling with me looking for a freebie fling when I visit in May.He s young Late 20 s,Rich {family owns 2 malls in the Philippines as well as a hotel},Single.He will be scouting for freebie action.But this is his first visit to China except for Shenzen.Any suggestions where to direct him??

CL,

May be In Starbuck Employment requirement there are items like:
1) Must be able ti flirt with customer.
2) Must be model no. XXXX.XXX
3) Must be manufactured in Guangxi.
4) Must be willing to re-locate with customer.

For your friend, you are not talking about someone from the Topaz family are you???? But since he is so rich, why do he need freebie anyways? Can joyly well pay off high quality girls from some good KTVs rather than spend time working on so-so girl from Starbucks with no promises for a "kill".

Based my my experience freebie are not difficult to get in China but not so easy if you don't speak the language well. So typically a foreigner may spend hours of working on her and ending up with zero is high.

But however if you are the kind who likes the Challange and have extra time to kill, it is not a bad excerise. On top of that, well.... if you don't get the "kill" there is the restuarant (KTVs) or the fast food (McDonalds ==> See my other reports) if you know what I meant? ;-)

Enjoy!
AG

Actually I still agrees that there are no free meals in this world; you either pay now or pay later. But how you pay is another matter.

AngrySnake
04-06-06, 02:06
I just ran across this. I am wondering if anybody has used it. I dont speak much manderin at all. A guide for when I go back might be good. I just wonder by the ads what you can "get" from some of these girls.

Cebu Local
04-06-06, 02:15
CL,

May be In Starbuck Employment requirement there are items like:
1) Must be able ti flirt with customer.
2) Must be model no. XXXX.XXX
3) Must be manufactured in Guangxi.
4) Must be willing to re-locate with customer.

For your friend, you are not talking about someone from the Topaz family are you???? But since he is so rich, why do he need freebie anyways? Can joyly well pay off high quality girls from some good KTVs rather than spend time working on so-so girl from Starbucks with no promises for a "kill".

Based my my experience freebie are not difficult to get in China but not so easy if you don't speak the language well. So typically a foreigner may spend hours of working on her and ending up with zero is high.

But however if you are the kind who likes the Challange and have extra time to kill, it is not a bad excerise. On top of that, well.... if you don't get the "kill" there is the restuarant (KTVs) or the fast food (McDonalds ==> See my other reports) if you know what I meant? ;-)

Enjoy!
AG

Actually I still agrees that there are no free meals in this world; you either pay now or pay later. But how you pay is another matter.Thanks AG,No He is in hotel business like me,Not Topaz family.He enjoys "fishing" for the thrill of hunt,Sort of like You can buy Fish at Market but Many people fish anyway for the fun of it.He says it is good for ego to land freebies.Not as challenging as simply paying at KTV.So I thought Starbucks for a ONS hunt was an option,Regarding Mandarin 90% of Filipino Chinese are Hokkien from Fujian,Not speaking Cantonese or Mandarin.So his Mandarin is very Basic.Anyway He is going to pay for HIS bills.Cheers

Ace Gallant
04-06-06, 02:34
Thanks AG,No He is in hotel business like me,Not Topaz family.He enjoys "fishing" for the thrill of hunt,Sort of like You can buy Fish at Market but Many people fish anyway for the fun of it.He says it is good for ego to land freebies.Not as challenging as simply paying at KTV.So I thought Starbucks for a ONS hunt was an option,Regarding Mandarin 90% of Filipino Chinese are Hokkien from Fujian,Not speaking Cantonese or Mandarin.So his Mandarin is very Basic.Anyway He is going to pay for HIS bills.Cheers

Chinita Talaga? I see.. I understand, Oo... I know that most Filippinos Chinese are originally either from Taiwan or Fujian.

The Starbuck option may works but I guess he may need to spend some time hunting. And as the hunt goes, not everytime the game is there for you to hunt on and not every shot is a kill. I also found another place around world trade center full of Freebies potentials that is across the road from Garden hotel and so is the Starbuck next to Garden hotel, may be you can also suggest him trying those locations?

Enjoy!
AG

Cebu Local
04-06-06, 14:29
Thanks and will post an FR on his luck,As for me I will trust in Master OAH Best regards

Ace Gallant
04-07-06, 09:56
Someone on this board had posted SWs along Tao Jin Lu next to World Trade Center.

MAB and I took a walk down Tao Jin Lu to try our luck....

It is either we are there too early (9pm) or we are out of luck or we are blind!

There are lots of people around as it looks like a major Bus stop. But after 5 km and 30 mins of walk down and back, we found absolutely zero SWs. ZERO, NULL, NONE, EMPTY!

So Guangzhou experts, please tell us whether we are nuts or hunting in the wrong place....

AG

Ace Gallant
04-07-06, 10:47
After an empty handed hunt at Tao Jin Lu, we cross over the Garden Hotel and started or hunt from Starbucks.

Immediately 20m down the road we had been approached by a 5/10 SWs asking whether we want to have fun. It is still early and we want to sample more of the standard here so we shook heads and keep walking. Along the way we had been approached by at least 4 to 5 other SWs. The key for them to approach you is eye to eye contact with a smile. these 4 - 5 SWs ranges from 5/10 to around 6/10

We did spotted a 7/10 from far and stopped at the junction to wait for them to cross the road. They also spotted us but dam! two uniform Police was come down the street and they went off the other directions.

We came back up to Starbucks and had a coffee to relax off. Just as we were leaving StarBucks we bumped into a Ugly SW which kind of tried to follow us as we prowl the street. We only managed to shake off the Ugly SW near McDonalds and God must have want us to meet these 2 cute SWs hiding from the rain which just started. Older one is dressed like any SWs which the any security guard can spot from 20m away while the younger is dress in sports gear! As MAB is staying in 5 Stars hotel, I recommanded him to the younger one while I took Wang Ying the 25 years old. We started the negotiations of price. which started at 500 each for ST, and I told them straight off that it is raining on a Sunday evening at 10:30pm they can keep on standing in the rain or take 200 each for LT and ride with us. The end deal was 200 ST for MAB girl and 300 LT for my girl. MAB have important meetings in the morning and did not wants LT anyways. 4 of us parted in pair to our hotel.

Wang Ying is so-so bed skills and loose so she cannot pop me even after 1:30hours of humping. So I made another deal with her. I let her sleep and hump her in the morning but I the price goes down to 200. She agreed. We both took a 10 mins rest and before she fell a sleep I grab her and humped her again. I managed to switch her to doggy and without her consent I "forced" into her Anal... She scream out asking me to take it out... No I did not as it is giving me a good grip thus making me unload my first load into her Anal. (of course I had my rubbers on)! Remove my dick from her and flip her over seeing tears in her eyes scolding me that I am Hentai and I should tell her first as she had never done that before. I told her, she either let me do the Anal or I will hump her for another 2 hours. She kept quiet and went to sleep..... We both got up at 6am and did her another time before I release her at 8am.

In our conversation she told me that both of them do not do the for a living, they both have a day time job. Wang Ying day time job is shop assistant while MAB girls is working in an fabic printing company.
She also told me why I cannot pop fast, she said that because she is not pretty enough for me. She will make an appointemnt with her younger sister for Monday night to meet me. She promise me that I will like her because she is very pretty. So we made the date on Monday 11pm.

Next report.... Hanging out with the two King Mongers; Cronin and OAH on Monday evening.....

Enjoy!
AG

Ace Gallant
04-07-06, 11:42
We set the meet with these two King Mongers Cronin and Old Asia Hand in the evening of Monday.

Special thanks to Cronin for coming out to Garden Hotel (which is a 30 mins ride from your place) to get me. Headed to Panyu we met OAH and his friend Mr. B (Sorry I don't know your Handle in ISG). We than headed out to Nansha which thanks to OAH for driving usall the way south.

Nansha:

Roll into ths small town (after getting a bit lost and back tracking; total of 30mins drive at 110Kmh from Panyu), can smell pussies once we got of the car. There were rows of Shop houses and each rows have their fair share of BBS. We scouted down the first rows and Mr. B point out which are the HJ only BBS and those that are further in are FS BBS. Looking around all the BBS have a great share of young and cute farmgirls. as it was only about 6pm, some of the girls are still sleeping on the couch. and some BBS are empty (1 or 2 girls). There must be at least 12 BBS on row no. 1

It took us about 30 mins to scout the whole small BBS town. There must be at least a total of 30+ BBS. Stopping by some and going in with OAH teasing mamasan as he is a regular here. Some girls in this town are terrified by the looks of these fews big size foreigners and I can also hear mummering from between the girls saying that "white man have big thing!" Some young girls even ran to the back to hide fearing that she will be chosen.

After walking back to third last row, cronin and I settle into the one BBS with a cutie each. Cronin girl is very young and she was at first reluctant to go. Took care of it and sent the girl walking. My girl took me by the hand, up to an apartment up 4 floors. into a bed room, Strip herself and me, wash me clean in teh bath room and we did our stuff.... Young tight pussy and ass. Interesting enough; she said she had never done AF but she is very willing to try. So I flip her over and tried to penerate her ass.... too dry, took some off my juice from my previous rubbers which I use on her pussy job. rub it at her entance and tried entering her again. Dammm! her ass is just too tight, after another 20mins of hard trying we gave up. Wash up and headed down only to find Cronin still up there "torturing" his small girl!

10 mins later Cronin appeared with the small girl nowhere in slight... poor girl... must be suffering from the torture...... (Nah.... I am just teasing Cronin... he is a nice guy...)

We headed out to the restuarant where OAH parked his car, met up with OAH and Mr. B had dinner.

After dinner, we left cronin in and bbs at Row no. 1 for his second round. Mr. B and I scouted around again. I did not want second as I had this appointment for LT tonight with the prior arrangement from the girl Wang Ying the night before.

We managed to meet up later with OAH who went off to the nearest 5 stars hotel to use their their toilets. spoke to several mamasan.

Standard Price per pop : 130
Overnight : 350

Too bad I had a prior arrangement or else I could had spend overnight in Nansha. We headed back to Guangzhou at 9:30pm

Next report... my "Pretty" girl from prior night's arrangement.
Hey it Friday night again.... what am I doing posting on the board????
AG

Deep Fritz
04-07-06, 14:32
Someone on this board had posted SWs along Tao Jin Lu next to World Trade Center.

MAB and I took a walk down Tao Jin Lu to try our luck....

It is either we are there too early (9pm) or we are out of luck or we are blind!

There are lots of people around as it looks like a major Bus stop. But after 5 km and 30 mins of walk down and back, we found absolutely zero SWs. ZERO, NULL, NONE, EMPTY!

So Guangzhou experts, please tell us whether we are nuts or hunting in the wrong place....

AGI have seen the street between Garden Hotel and Starbucks the last weeks full of SWs - mainly on the right side entering from Huan Shi Dong Lu after 200 meters. But the quality is very mixed like everywhere in the Guangzhou street scene.

If you follow this street further on (i estimate 300 m), the street moves a little bit up and then on the right hand side is a disco (decorated ugly in an old Roman style. The disco charges some entry fee which can be used for the first trink. This disco has a mixed audience, but within you will find a lot of freelancers. I went there with success several times during the last two months.

Prices are higher than "on the street", I usually settled LT for 500-800 Y.

In one of your earlier posts you mentioned the Hill Bar opposite the Garden Hotel. There are not many FLs to choose, its "hit or miss". But I found several of jewels already there which guides me always back to this place - at least to have a look and a beer.

But I know Guangzhou is not such easy to handle like Shanghai.

Good Luck!

Bill Lee
04-07-06, 15:26
I'm guessing that the disco you're talking about is late night shopping. So what hotel (if you're staying in one) is GF after 11:00 p.m.?

Bill


I have seen the street between Garden Hotel and Starbucks the last weeks full of SWs - mainly on the right side entering from Huan Shi Dong Lu after 200 meters. But the quality is very mixed like everywhere in the Guangzhou street scene.

If you follow this street further on (i estimate 300 m), the street moves a little bit up and then on the right hand side is a disco (decorated ugly in an old Roman style. The disco charges some entry fee which can be used for the first trink. This disco has a mixed audience, but within you will find a lot of freelancers. I went there with success several times during the last two months.

Prices are higher than "on the street", I usually settled LT for 500-800 Y.

In one of your earlier posts you mentioned the Hill Bar opposite the Garden Hotel. There are not many FLs to choose, its "hit or miss". But I found several of jewels already there which guides me always back to this place - at least to have a look and a beer.

But I know Guangzhou is not such easy to handle like Shanghai.

Good Luck!

Superforce99
04-09-06, 03:00
...

wang ying is so-so bed skills and loose so she cannot pop me even after 1:30hours of humping. so i made another deal with her. i let her sleep and hump her in the morning but i the price goes down to 200. she agreed. we both took a 10 mins rest and before she fell a sleep i grab her and humped her again. i managed to switch her to doggy and without her consent i "forced" into her anal... she scream out asking me to take it out... no i did not as it is giving me a good grip thus making me unload my first load into her anal. (of course i had my rubbers on)! remove my dick from her and flip her over seeing tears in her eyes scolding me that i am hentai and i should tell her first as she had never done that before. i told her, she either let me do the anal or i will hump her for another 2 hours. she kept quiet and went to sleep..... we both got up at 6am and did her another time before i release her at 8am.....



is it only me who was surprised/disturbed about this anal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)?? what's up with that ag?


j

Goderos
04-09-06, 07:55
I will be in Guangzhou this May,Do you have be fluent in Mandarin or Cantonese to "interconnect" with them.What if your Mandarin is Basic??I have a Filipino Chinese travelling with me looking for a freebie fling when I visit in May.He s young Late 20 s,Rich {family owns 2 malls in the Philippines as well as a hotel},Single.He will be scouting for freebie action.But this is his first visit to China except for Shenzen.Any suggestions where to direct him??

How long are you guys in town for? If you have time then all you need is a cell phone. I meet girls and get their numbers. IMHO, It is too easy.
You can get numbers to meet up with girls later in the night. I normally stack the girls so I plan to meet a few in a day. Chances are not all will one ONS. So you got to find out early what your chances are for ONS. Ditch her and meet the next one you were already scheduled to meet that night.
Numbers are easy to get. You can get the numbers from any girl you fancy. well pretty much any girl you fancy. I get them from the mall. There a couple near Tianhe. Also when I get a haircut or a regular massage. Sometimes I just pull out my phone and pass it to her. But make sure you spell the name after she tell it to you.
For clubs, I normally go to Fox or Babyface. YMMV, it really depends on what you guys are looking for. I don't subscribe to paying or spending too much money on my freebies. Not anymore anyways. I've seen so many guys, esp. asian man that think they can get chick by flashing dollars away. IMHO, a girl knows within minutes if she wants to fuck you or not. So make a great first impression and make her want to sleep with you. Most importantly have fun!.
BTW C_L, I am back in Vcr. It sucks ass here. I dont even want to go to the clubs/bars here anymore. Man I miss Asia. From my experience, you may have more luck in smaller towns. Gz is pretty big and some girls are already jaded. Shenzen is not far behind. Have fun.

Goderos
04-09-06, 08:02
Well... we cannot compare apples to oranges... In Shanghai where I live Saunas start at 600 and ST start at 400. So I think it only fair to say it all depends on where you are and what you want.

Panyu (where OAH mongers) has nice and cheap places for sure and not to mention CP.

I don;t come down to GZ often but if I do or any mongers wants to catch up with a beer in Shanghai or Beijing, I am open to invitations.

Enjoy yourself!
AG

Depends where you go in Shanghai, you can find 200rmb ST. Will be in Shanghai in July, maybe we'll swap stories then.

Ace Gallant
04-09-06, 11:46
is it only me who was surprised/disturbed about this anal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)?? what's up with that ag?

j

ok.... i did not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her. let me describe to details if you want me to write the full details of this part of the story:

while i was doing her doggy style, i used my thumb to tickle the rims of her ass and slowly dipped the tip of the thumb slowly into her ass,
she turned around and said: "what are you doing? it is nice";
than i said: "it is nice and tight, have you tried anal before?"
she said: "no, no... please don't try... i heard it is very painful...",
than i said: "not so painful if the guys know how to do it right and if you do not resist..."
she said: "no no...."
i said: "i am going to try it anyways..." at this point i withdraw my dick from her wet pussy and started sliding my dick still wet with her cun juice, into her ass....
she started screaming out: "no no... what are you doing!!! ah ah ah... pain pain pain..."
at this point i was feeling so high with her ass tightening on dick so fast that my ears was block out and could not hear she plead for me to take it out and before long... i shot out my full load into her tight ass.
stopping my pounding, i withdraw my still hard dick from her ass, and i hear a sound of relief when my dick cleared the rims of her ass. i removed the rubbers now filled with my cum, flipped her over and i was shocked to see tears in her eyes, before she started scolding me that i am "pian tai" and she was suffering from the 10 full minutes of torture. at this point i felt guilty from torturing this young girl so i hug her and kiss her, apologizing to her and beg for her forgiveness. but i told her that her pussy is over used and too loose that it cannot make me cum, so it is either she let me do her on her ass or i will humped her for another 2 more hours which will exhuast her to death.
she than said: "ok...that was painful but i thinks i will like it more if i am more prepared for it. i wants to do it again but not tonight as i still feels the pain in the ass. but next time you can do without condoms and cum inside my ass? i heard that i will not get pregnant if you cum inside my ass."

ok.... is this what you wanted it to be? in full details.....

geee man... i can write a book if i go on writting posts like this!!!

ag

Ace Gallant
04-09-06, 11:55
Depends where you go in Shanghai, you can find 200rmb ST. Will be in Shanghai in July, maybe we'll swap stories then.

Sure... but PM me before you come because I am not always in town.

By the way: the cheapest ST I had in Shanghai was 80 but you don't want to try it... it is down dirty!!! A FS from BBS can be as cheap as 100.

Sorry...not trying to boast here. But again compare Oranges to Oranges
AG

Superforce99
04-09-06, 13:59
...

ok.... is this what you wanted it to be? in full details.....

geee man... i can write a book if i go on writting posts like this!!!

ag


thanks for clearing that up, ag...you really don't seem like an anal
[CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126), ha ha...

but i hope you can see that people may get the wrong idea from reading
what you wrote in the post. but good, detailed reports and i enjoy reading
them. keep up the good work.

johnny

Ace Gallant
04-09-06, 14:02
I have seen the street between Garden Hotel and Starbucks the last weeks full of SWs - mainly on the right side entering from Huan Shi Dong Lu after 200 meters. But the quality is very mixed like everywhere in the Guangzhou street scene.

If you follow this street further on (i estimate 300 m), the street moves a little bit up and then on the right hand side is a disco (decorated ugly in an old Roman style. The disco charges some entry fee which can be used for the first trink. This disco has a mixed audience, but within you will find a lot of freelancers. I went there with success several times during the last two months.

Prices are higher than "on the street", I usually settled LT for 500-800 Y.

In one of your earlier posts you mentioned the Hill Bar opposite the Garden Hotel. There are not many FLs to choose, its "hit or miss". But I found several of jewels already there which guides me always back to this place - at least to have a look and a beer.

But I know Guangzhou is not such easy to handle like Shanghai.

Good Luck!

Thanks for your input DF but...

Huh... I mentioned Tao Jin Lu, which is across from Garden Hotel further down behind World Trade Center.... there is nothing there not on Garden Hotel side.

Of course there are lots of SWs on Garden Hotel side. The Pros SW are going for Pre-negotiated price of 500 for ST and 800 for LT which I think is BS. I had my SW (non-Pros) 300 for LT if you read my posting (of course it was Sunday rainy night). The main reason why is because this two I had are Non-Pros, they are there to make extra money because they have day jobs. I was at the Garden hotel Star Buck everynight around 9pm to 11pm I do see a few of them who are regulars (Pros) and a few of them are not there everynight or I miss them... I am sure that with a bit more negotiations in Cantonese or Mandarin can get you a better price. I will not pay 800 LT for a SW there! For 800, I get a much much better Pros in Shanghai.

Relatively, it is easier to pick girls in Guangzhou than in Shanghai. The girls in Shanghai goes for more money and some even want long term.

AG

Ace Gallant
04-09-06, 14:05
thanks for clearing that up, ag...you really don't seem like an anal
[CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126), ha ha...

but i hope you can see that people may get the wrong idea from reading
what you wrote in the post. but good, detailed reports and i enjoy reading
them. keep up the good work.

johnny

hmm... may be i should write a book on this.... actually cronin, oah and i were talking about writing a book on mongering.... ;-)

ag

Ace Gallant
04-09-06, 16:06
my english is not so good but i think the meaning of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) means you force the girl to have sex with you and ag just said in his post "force" with the quotation marks, does that not mean he is not forcing but he is pretending to be forcing?

but also; how can you [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a girl and the girl is a sws and after everything is over she accept the money? so by definations of the law, she agrees to have sex with ag, accepts money for the act, than it is not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

it is either i am bad at english or i am a lousy lawyer or the law in china is different from japan law.

i know ag well, we use to monger together when he was in japan, he is a gentleman and never use force on anyone unless he or his friend is provoked. if you are disturbed by his actions i advice you to stay away from him because i seen him take out 3 black guys all because they are trying to rob me off my girl when we were mongering at shibuya in tokyo. ag is still my hero.

ag, if you are reading this, i would thanks you for these great postings and also for openning up that sw for us, maybe now she offer af for free now? if you can pm me her cell no. i can call her up when i am in guanzhou.

jm

huh... thanks jm,

but please don't mention about the incident in shibuya again, because it makes a lot of people thinks i am a violent guy. i just need to protect my friends and myself.

i'll will pm you the number of wangying.

by the way: i noticed your english had improved so much recently, what have you been up to? eating american pussies in japan? and also; its guangzhou not guanzhou == makes it sounds like **** zhou... :-p

ag

Deep Fritz
04-09-06, 17:11
Dear Bill,

I stayed many times in the KaYing Hotel, 418 Huang Shi Dong Lu, east of Garden Hotel, same side of the street, direct beside the big traffic circle.

It has been always GF after 11pm, last time I stayed there four weeks ago.

DF


I'm guessing that the disco you're talking about is late night shopping. So what hotel (if you're staying in one) is GF after 11:00 p.m.?

Bill

Deep Fritz
04-09-06, 17:43
Thanks for your input DF but...

Huh... I mentioned Tao Jin Lu, which is across from Garden Hotel further down behind World Trade Center.... there is nothing there not on Garden Hotel side.

Of course there are lots of SWs on Garden Hotel side. The Pros SW are going for Pre-negotiated price of 500 for ST and 800 for LT which I think is BS. I had my SW (non-Pros) 300 for LT if you read my posting (of course it was Sunday rainy night). The main reason why is because this two I had are Non-Pros, they are there to make extra money because they have day jobs. I was at the Garden hotel Star Buck everynight around 9pm to 11pm I do see a few of them who are regulars (Pros) and a few of them are not there everynight or I miss them... I am sure that with a bit more negotiations in Cantonese or Mandarin can get you a better price. I will not pay 800 LT for a SW there! For 800, I get a much much better Pros in Shanghai.

Relatively, it is easier to pick girls in Guangzhou than in Shanghai. The girls in Shanghai goes for more money and some even want long term.

AGThe SWs in Guangzhou are not stable at locations since there are so many raids which make them moving sometimes from one day to another.

In February and March, the last time I have been there, the street on wich Starbucks is located (right hand side of Garden Hotel) has been stable, - but not close to Garden, a few hundred meters away. I dont remember the name and I dont have a GZ map on hand.

Prices at the 800 level for LT are much too high on Guangzhou streets! .... and the quality range starts at 1 moves may be to 6, except for the rare moments to find a jewel (or two) as you did.

In the disco I mentioned (this street down, then right hand side) I had a high satisfying hit rate the last few months (I am usually in GZ once a month).

I am more in the bar girl scene, and there is not a big selection of places in GZ. This is what I mean't when i said: Shanghai is easier.

My base is Shanghai since many years.

DF

Jazziton
04-09-06, 18:51
Hmm... may be I should write a book on this.... Actually Cronin, OAH and I were talking about writing a book on mongering.... ;-)

AG

........ "A Dummies ABC Guide to Mongering in (South) China" :-)

Not a bad idea at all and with all the material available it shouldn´t take long time before a first edition could be issued, and Jackson could have it for sale via the ISG.....

Happy (Easter) Hunting folks,

Jazziton

Mac 2
04-09-06, 19:31
DF,

not a big selection in GZ. WOW! I am here for 10 years + and there is quite a large selection here. Next time you are in GZ PM me and I will guide you!
I would even say that GZ is easier to get around, but that might be because i speak cantonese.

BTW, the club you have been too is called TANG HUI / TANG CLUB.

Talk to you soon.

MAC 2

In the disco I mentioned (this street down, then right hand side) I had a high satisfying hit rate the last few months (I am usually in GZ once a month).

I am more in the bar girl scene, and there is not a big selection of places in GZ.

Fast Eddie 48
04-09-06, 22:56
........ "A Dummies ABC Guide to Mongering in (South) China" :-)

Not a bad idea at all and with all the material available it shouldn´t take long time before a first edition could be issued, and Jackson could have it for sale via the ISG.....

Happy (Easter) Hunting folks,

Jazziton


to jazziton

ISG is way better than a book , This is updated information because of the
china mongering scene change all the time.


fast eddie 48