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Mashdogg

06-11-05, 12:35

Absolutely XXL

Look what's happened to nite life in Bangkok.

The party scene is not what it used to be.

Jakboy

06-11-05, 15:55

Thanks XXL - thats good insight and perspective.

After reading what you have to say i would think that even if i do head to a club heading out early in the night (before 10) probably makes sense and also to walk a little distance before catching a cab (and surely not a prestasi - who are doubly duplicitous as their entire colour scheme is a bluebird clone)

Smoothy

06-12-05, 05:43

If you are wanting to go out before 10pm, you aren't going to find much action anywhere in the entire city. The action is just getting started around 10:30pm.

XXL

06-12-05, 11:09

... though the heart be still as loving, and the Moon be still as bright.

It is sensible to visit non-disco clubs in the afternoon or late afternoon, not to mention the brothels which close at midnight.

As far as the discos are concerned, I was told most roadblocks and raids occured on week-ends (Friday and Saturday night) so avoiding those nights would make sense. Unfortunately, those are the most interesting nights for discos because of the higher half-pros to non-pros ratio. And, of course, there's the fact that all discos close earlier on week-days so you find yourself in the streets at a dangerous hour (rather than, say, at 7 a.m. when traffic is already dense and the cops have gone home to sleep). I've thought about partying in an unraided disco like Mille's, then go to sleep in Hotel Olimpic which can be reached on foot within the "Lokasari safe haven". But it's impossible to be sure how immune to raids Mille's really is, how long it will stay that way, and whether cops don't set up the occasional road block within Lokasari.

Although I've read something in the newspapers about hotels being raided over New Year in Bogor, I would guess hotels remain pretty inviolable in JKT. That + do any dodgy transactions during the day. I surely miss my all-nighters in Stadium though, nothing will ever replace that. I spent the night in a trance, doing 8-10 girls (erection only, no cum) between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. Needless to say the mamasans were also in a trance to see me arrive.

Jakboy

06-13-05, 14:46

... though the heart be still as loving, and the Moon be still as bright.

I surely miss my all-nighters in Stadium though, nothing will ever replace that. I spent the night in a trance, doing 8-10 girls (erection only, no cum) between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. Needless to say the mamasans were also in a trance to see me arrive.Amazing! What were you on?

Incidentally both Milles and TC were under a bit of a cloud this weekend. Much mutterings of "polisi" etc etc. So much for the not raided theory. went over to crown, but somehow prefer the atmosphere at milles - just a little more friendly :-)

Menteng

06-13-05, 21:53

Poturu,

Is there a Blok V in Jakarta? If so, can you inform us about the delights that can be found there?

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 10:24

John Aldrich,

Actually I posted these pictures in a local Forum sometimes ago. The same local Forum had lifted their attachment restrictions by allowing posters to post moving pictures upto 10MB per video clip. Most video clips I posted are 100KB in size only. This is the default size of my handphone. Allowable extensions are .3gp, .avi, .dat, and .mpg.

I hope WSG Team will consider this type of attachment too.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

P.S. Jkt After Dark 2 is my new User Name.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 10:31

Medika No. 15. More Pictures.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 10:48

Medika No. 18

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 11:22

Medika No. 18. More Pictures.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 11:29

Medika No. 40

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 11:48

Medika No. 40. More Pictures.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-14-05, 12:04

Medika No. 45

Dick Nasty

06-14-05, 14:44

Can someone tell me where Medika is and what are the rates there. Also the business hours and if the girls are good for both in call and out call? Looks it has a pretty good selection of girls. Nice pictures, even blur but still can tell good quality girls :)

DN

Bulai69

06-14-05, 16:35

XXL

06-14-05, 16:53

Amazing! What were you on?
Nothing special, the local E (which has been getting worse lately in JKT) and high doses of Viagra.

John Aldrich

06-14-05, 18:18

Incidentally I am also a member of the same forum as you are and have also seen your pix of Maribaya. Especially the view that you have shot from the reception area is just wonderful, though a bit hazy.And the one at Hartono's place is just fantastic and tells you the reason why he charges that much. But I am still amazed as to how you managed to shoot the pix at Hartono's place. Those guys never let anyone shoot at all. How did you manage it?

Cheers,

John Aldrich,

Actually I posted these pictures in a local Forum sometimes ago. The same local Forum had lifted their attachment restrictions by allowing posters to post moving pictures upto 10MB per video clip. Most video clips I posted are 100KB in size only. This is the default size of my handphone. Allowable extensions are .3gp, .avi, .data, and .mpg.

I hope WSG Team will consider this type of attachment too.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

P.S. Jkt After Dark 2 is my new User Name.

Mighty Spearsman

06-14-05, 21:25

Medika No. 18
Thanks for all of the photos you posted! Great photos.

I especially enjoyed the tits on Medika No. 18, especially the 4th photo. I'll be in Indonesia in July, hopefully she'll still be working there :)

Smoothy

06-15-05, 00:27

I dont really feel comfortable at Medika. I've been there about 10 times and I've never seen another bule there. It's not in the best neighborhood either. The pictures they have to choose from look nothing like the actual girls. Most occasions where I have chosen from the pictures, I have had to refuse the girl when she shows up because she is so ugly. The disco where the girls wait is too dark to even see a foot in front of your face so there is no way to actually select a girl from there. I always end up sitting on the couch in the waiting area watching the girls who get done with customers and ask them what their number is. It ends up being a 1 hour venture before I even get a chance to select one.

It would be good if more Bules started going there though. Maybe it would help to change things up a bit. I think they have something like 300 girls or something ridiculous like that in their employ. It's also the cheapest place I've found in town. But getting a quality girl there takes some effort.

Dick Nasty

06-15-05, 03:35

Dick Nasty - I reported on this recently (if it is the same place). Near to Ciputra Mall. The address is in that very long list of mongering places one our friends posted last week. It´s a disco and knocking shop all in one a la Stadium (but very different)Thank Bulai69, perhaps someone know for sure that Medika is still the same name and the exact location . This will make the finding much easier for me. got to check this out, I like the selections. Bulai or JAD ,do you know what the going rate is at Medika?

DN

Jaimito Cartero

06-15-05, 08:10

I didn't see any mention of pricing here. I assume it would be in the 150k-250k range. While I don't look to go to dangerous places, I do like to go to some more local places in the countries I visit.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-15-05, 12:56

Skamerun, Wantoknow, and Dick Nasty:

Bulai69 is right. Medika is at the back of Citra Land. I think it is situated at Jl. Daan Mogot I No. 31.

Jaimito Cartero is also quite right. There are actually 6 places in this area. Medika, Jakarta 2000, Widya, Hot Pen wll known as HP, Top 1, Bandara. All are in 125-150K braket. This is the normal price in this area.

Medika. 125-135K. Standard Room 50K (don't take this room). VIP Room 60K. Girl 75K (I alway give them 100K. I always tip the cashier 20K).

John Aldrich,

Oke. But I have never seen your posting.

About Hartono. They know me very well. I have been giving them businesses. When it comes to the picture. I guess I learned to switch my handphone to SMS mode yourway John :D. You should see my video clip collections. I am sure you will sweat when you see them :D. Anyway, let me post more pictures.

Mighty Spearsman,

They are waiting for you man.

Smoothy,

I agree with you somehow when you start talking about the facilities and neighbourhood. Quality service goes with the price. In the end you must agree they offer good value for money.

Jaimito Cartero,

Good to hear you again.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Jkt After Dark 2

06-15-05, 13:18

Medika No. 79. More Pictures.

The broadband connection is very slow today. I will continue posting the rest some other time.

Smoothy

06-15-05, 13:27

JAD,

Thanks for posting these pics. The main thing that makes me dislike Medika is the difficulty of selecting a girl. These pics with the girls numbers are great!

Wantoknow

06-15-05, 15:49

Thank you Jkt After Dark for the pics and info. on Medika. Damn, those girls are nice.

Especially, #15 and #18, they are hot man!!!!!!!!!!

Possessed Seoul

06-16-05, 06:58

Anyone know of a venue where anal is on the menu, MP, brothel or disco-style place like Stadium?

Bulai69

06-16-05, 13:22

I arrived last night after 30 hour trip and went to HRC because I was told a girl I wanted was in there. I've never seen reports on HRC (the "new" one) - apart from my own previous ones. When I arrived it was "girls on top" night. Interesting you might think but NEVER go in on that night! It means all the girls are on the top floor and you can't get up there! What ****ing use is that?!. So I paid 60k for nothing.

So back to 30bar - quiet - there were only 4 worth having and I'd already had 3 of them! But I got the remaining good one from under the nose or a gormless French guy (no offence to French friends). I'll post pics when I get back to UK.

Then this morning I found a great one in Plaza Senayan - definite amatuer out shopping. Not too easy to get - took me coffee, large cakes (only 5% eaten like before Menteng!) and buying a handbag before I got her back to my hotel. But great performer - photos later.

Then again this afternoon I found one in Plaza Indonesia in Excelso, she is in the taxi coming to my hotel right now but late due to completely unexpected "macet". Semi pro pretending to be amateur: who cares?

Not been here 24 hours yet and already got 3 excellent girls I didn't know existed yesterday at this time. I've said it before: this place is the ultimate.

Sabbath

06-16-05, 18:16

Hey Bulai

It seems you are the pro in picking up "mall girls". How do you recognize them? What is it that makes you sure, she is one of them which will follow you back to your room? Make up, appearance or what?

I have seen two girls in Passaraya ( starbucks coffee) , blok M, yesterday. I could see it by myself that they were up to some action.., but otherwise how do you "see" it?

Another thing, I wouldnt go to HRC, even if there is a "girls on the basement " night. The "new" HRC is a kind of boring to me.

I like to get girls at spots like Aphrodite or at the bar in the Hyatt. Since most of them are a bit "upper class" and I am a long hair freak, I am a kind of exotic in there.. Some girls go crazy about me, and the best thing, they are for free! To get rid of them is another story, A non "hooker" girl who thinks she likes you can give you a headache.

Maybe you can give me a private lesson in "recognize the gal", the next time you are here. Will be away for the next two weeks, "bella italia" is calling.

I arrived last night after 30 hour trip and went to HRC because I was told a girl I wanted was in there. I've never seen reports on HRC (the "new" one) - apart from my own previous ones. When I arrived it was "girls on top" night. Interesting you might think but NEVER go in on that night! It means all the girls are on the top floor and you can't get up there! What ****ing use is that?!. So I paid 60k for nothing.

So back to 30bar - quiet - there were only 4 worth having and I'd already had 3 of them! But I got the remaining good one from under the nose or a gormless French guy (no offence to French friends). I'll post pics when I get back to UK.

Then this morning I found a great one in Plaza Senayan - definite amatuer out shopping. Not too easy to get - took me coffee, large cakes (only 5% eaten like before Menteng!) and buying a handbag before I got her back to my hotel. But great performer - photos later.

Then again this afternoon I found one in Plaza Indonesia in Excelso, she is in the taxi coming to my hotel right now but late due to completely unexpected "macet". Semi pro pretending to be amateur: who cares?

Not been here 24 hours yet and already got 3 excellent girls I didn't know existed yesterday at this time. I've said it before: this place is the ultimate.

Smoothy

06-16-05, 22:48

You are right, I've never seen a report on the new HRC either. So I'll give my report from my experiences. The new HRC sucks. The old one was quite good. But the new one is a waste of time. Not only on "girls on top" night, but every night. I avoid it like the plague these days. It's a shame because I really like the old HRC.

Menteng

06-17-05, 10:29

Poturu,

You can find the name of the hotels in earlier reports in this forum, but to save you some time, here they are again.
Hotel Melawai I and II and Hotel Losari are about US $ 30,= a night. Hotel Ambhara is also near, but more expensive.

Vision Thing

06-17-05, 12:21

Went to the 6th floor at Hotel Melawei last night around 6:30 and it was very, very quiet. Maybe 6-8 girls around total. Was told (I think) that it was a "shift change", and indeed there were 15-20 girls around when I finished. But it seems a lot emptier than usual. Anyone have any idea?

BTW, went with my most recent "regular" there, named Yala. She's young, 18-ish, tall, thin and quiet in the bar. But in the room, she's a natural. Great rhythm, obviously enjoys herself and knows what to do. Downsides are no photos and no (or little/bad) BJ.

Guess we can't have everything.

Menteng

06-18-05, 09:56

Bulai,

Is it the place or what? Yes, I still remember the girls.
What a start you had. It confirms your reputation! Do show us some photo's as soon as possible!
Keep on chasin'

PC Bum

06-18-05, 11:23

dear mongering brothers,
wow! can't believe my jkt trip is already over, but oh the stories i have to tell! i first want to thank all of you senior contributors, especially bulai69. your input was so helpful and i can't thank you enough. i probably won't be back in jkt anytime soon, but i have to remind all of you regulars to appreciate what you have. i was amazed at the available pussy and the great prices as well.

while there i had four hook ups...
the first night there i got a massage from the hotel spa. at the completion of the massage the girl asked if i wanted a "special massage". i declined, but later went to the spa and picked up her up and went to another hotel. her name escapes me, but her performance was pretty good. refused to do oral very long, but was quite talented in the cowgirl position. was thinking with the wrong head and went bareback and overpaid to the tune of 600,000, but had a good time.

second day, i called the hotel spa and they sent another massage girl up. massage was a bit painful, don't know if you guys like it rough, but this girl hurt me! anyway, got a very talented hj for 100,000.

third experience...
this was a tad strange i admit, but a man has got to do what a man has got to do. i woke up around 4 am with some special time on my brain. i went down to the hotel lobby and started chatting with the security guard. i told him i was looking for a girl and he got me a cab. i was staying in citraland and so we headed out, ended up at a joint close to roxy square/roxy mas. went into a small room with dark tint covering most of the big window, there was a thin area to peek through and see the girls. the room was big enough to hold 30 - 40 girls, but my luck, only one was there. she was cute and available so we headed out. as we were leaving 4 more girls came up in cabs, they were coming back in from a long night's work i assume. all the indo guys in the street were trying to get me to take these girls as well.
we got a "short time" hotel somewhere near by and did the deed, performance was decent, but she was kinda lifeless. paid 350,000 and 150,000 for the short time hotel. sorry i don't remember the name of either joint, but like i said, it is near roxy square area.

fourth excursion...
headed to tamen aggrek for some shopping. tried to work bulai's magic, but didn't have much luck. talked with a sexy girl at metro's in the men's dress shirt department, but she didn't get off work until 9:30 that night and i had stuff going on after that. she seemed willing, but i was traveling with other folks that limited by mongering window.

went down and got a cab, it took forever for him to understand what i was looking for. ended up having to tip the doorman b/c he had to explain to the driver what i wanted. he drove me behind citraland to a nasty looking disco, older women came to the cab and offered 150,000. nasty, so we moved on. found a large indo girl, actually normal american size, that was quite cute, but she spoke no english at all, so i gave up during negotiations. all was about lost when my cabbie pulled into a hotel and talked with the security guard. he promised girls in 15 minutes, 30 minutes later an suv pulled up with three girls in it. i got my pick and headed to the room. 400,000 and 150,000 for the room. she was the hotest and best performance by far. she gave the best bj i have had in a while. did some basic ar as well. the guy that delivered the girls gave me his card, i can't remember the business name, but his name was rudee or rudi. said he has about 40 girls that work for him.

wish i had more time in indo. it was great! thanks again to all the posters. your insight was extrememly helpful.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-19-05, 13:22

John Aldrich, Bulai69, Menteng, and the rest:

Last night's incident, Stadium security personnels beat up an angry man who chased around people inside Stadium with a samurai sword, might lead to a retaliation attact soon. I am talking about last year incident magnitude.

My concern is everybody's well-being. It is wise to avoid Stadium for a couple weeks. Take care.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Menteng

06-19-05, 13:40

Thank you JAD. I remember what happened last year and surely would not like to be present when the retaliation comes and the killings starts.

Jakboy

06-19-05, 14:42

That explains it. I was coming back from Kota last night at 3:15 am and saw the stadium lights off and it looked closed. I was wondering if it was cops or what xxl was taking off. That they close down to funnel folks to waiting cops.

Meanwhile, which of you was walkiing into Milles at 3.15 am?

XXL

06-19-05, 15:31

Last night's incident, Stadium security personnels beat up an angry man who chased around people inside Stadium with a samurai sword
JAD, where did you read about this incident? I did an internet search but it seems the indicent didn't make it into the news.

Mangga

06-20-05, 01:43

I have to agree with the recent posts on Hard Rock Cafe. The new one is just not a patch on the original in the tatty old Sarinah building. The new establishment feels cold and unwelcoming to me, with none of the various quiet nooks and crannies where chatting up and feeling up could happen.

I went to the new HRC about twice but couldn't even identify where a suitable chat-up place could be. The bar is too open and exposed and is a thoroughfare. Haven't been back.

It's a really sad change for me because the old HRC was the place where I really began my bar mongering career in Jakarta (as distinct from the fuckshops of Kota). Picked up a few pros, a couple of semi-pros and a non-pro who still tries to reconnect with me from time to time. It was a great place because it was good if you were hunting for some sweet little fucklet to fuck and it was fine for just a few beers with friends or workmates.

So, forget the new HRC. It's OK for a meal maybe, but even then nothing special. Alas there is nothing that really replaces the old venue...

Bulai69

06-20-05, 04:40

Possessed Seoul - if you look back a few months you will see I posted on a place (previously) called Pink House. Its now called Virgin and uses Mr Bransons logo. I don't think they have permission unless Branson has diversified further. I even posted a photo of the place (external view), its very near Cafe Batavia in Kota (very well known restaurant). Its very down market but I've been twice over the years and anal was available both times. I took a girl out from there - back to my hotel - and same again. And I had it that time! Quality ranges from 1 to 10 ! Massive variation. Prices are cheap (150Rp or thereabouts) but they'll really try and hit you for more if you are bule as they never see them in there.

Bulai69

06-20-05, 05:01

My story is relevant to your post - last Saturday I went to Atium at 4pm. Within 15 seconds I saw a girl - honestly. It was luck of course but there are important lessons. I walked straight in behind the cafe past the lift and a girl emerged from the lift as I walked by. She looked above Atrium quality so I didn't instantly think she was up for it. But she walked slowly (relevant) to the photo shop near the lift. She was not really looking in the shop window (relevant) and turned back to the lift - obviously not really going anywhere. All this took 30 seconds - but in that time 3 local guys appeared "from nowhere" - circling like vultures. They had seen her already so I had to go for it first. No problem - instant smile and I got her.

The main point of this is that you have to be quick - very very quick indeed. In Atrium especially there are loads of girls - but many more "kucing" looking for them. The reason many mongers never find them, even in Atrium (no disprespects and I hope nobody thinks I am a "clever dick") is that by the time a girl actually appears somebody else has got them and they probably never know its happened. The reasons the local guys get them is that they a) recognise the signs b) don't give a shit about rejection if they get it wrong.

Anyway, getting back to the girl, she wanted to go shopping first for clothes so infact I just got her number as I didn't have time to mess a round with that. But when I left her, a local guy (ugly and fat) had her in 10 seconds and I later saw them both weighted down with shopping bags.

By the way this girl didn't speak one word of English.

But later I had even more success! I collected 2 more phone numbers in about 10 minutes from girls who were just OK. I wasn't desperate or I would have had them for sure. After about 15 mins I saw two girls together in a cafe. Both excellent. So I smiled at them and they smiled back so I was "in" Always easy to get them in cafes but they may just be looking for a mug to pay the bill. I joined them and after 5 minutes had the conversation round to either or both coming to my hotel. They were up for up but both were "merah" - meaning "red" or menstruation. I said come back anyway but they wouldn't. I got their numbers and after 30 minutes I collected a nice girl (but not as good as the first one) and had her back for a "quicky" - just 150k and excellent performance.

But the great news is that the two girls from the cafe phoned yesterday and they are on their way to my hotel right now! They are in lobby....

Jkt After Dark 2

06-20-05, 14:49

XXL,

I was there last Saturday. They really knew how to hide such incident. I would never found this out if a girl at 3rd floor didn't tell me. I saw 8 police officers entering Stadium on my way out.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Smoothy

06-21-05, 03:14

The reasons the local guys get them is that they a) recognise the signs b) don't give a shit about rejection if they get it wrong.In my opinion, the main reason is b). I have found that if you don't approach a girl IMMEDIATELY upon first viewing her, you are most likely going to lose out. You must have the "don't give a shit" attitude in Jakarta if you want to get the top girls. The girls are never rude to you like they would be in the usa. And if they have a boyfriend, he will not fight you like you might get in the usa. There's nothing to lose just to walk up to them and say hello. Even chatting with them for just a few minutes, it's a piece of cake getting their phone number. Heck, sometimes I just walk up to them and say "Hi, my name is .... I think you are beautiful. Could I have your hp number so I could call you sometime?" That may sound ridiculous, but most times they will say yes. It's that easy in Jakarta.

Wahoolee

06-21-05, 06:39

Bulai69,

Your posts are great. I'd like to see you in action in the malls when I come to Jakarta. Keep up the good work and keep posting. :)

Bulai69

06-22-05, 05:35

Smoothy..100% correct. I found a young "Atium" type girl in PI yesterday (unusual) sitting on a seat outside a hairdresser on top floor. I just said "kamu tunggu teman kamu?" (Are you waiting for your friend?). Of course she might have been - in which case no problem - but she wasn't. So "mau minum?" (want a drink?) - yes of course - and I'm away!

Bulai69

06-22-05, 05:43

I have (what I think!) is a clever trick to get talking to more up-market girls you find in Starbucks and the like but it also works with girls on enquiry desks in (up market) malls and sales girls.

What you do is get an Indo friend to send you an Indo style sms which even if you can speak Indo you might not understand. You simply say to them (in English) "I can speak a little bit of bahasa but I can't understand this sms - can you please help". Of course this also affords an opportunity to portray yourself as anything you want!! Victim of broken relationship, millionaire, film star - the opportunity is endless. But you need a real Indo person to get the jargon right. Of course you can ask anyone (you trust) even hotel door man or something. Her is an example "Marah ya? Pdhl gw pgn bgt crita2 ama John. abs ga munkn nolak ktmu nyokap." If you can translate that from any dictionary let me know....

Stiff in Jakarta

06-24-05, 10:44

Dear all,

When in BATS recently I grabbed this girls number discretly at the toilets (if you get my drift). I have seen her there a bit over the last year or so and she interested me with her dirty girl smile and dress. I was wondering if anyone has shagged a Suska out of BATS out of interest?If I dont get any replies I guess I will have to shag her to find out if its a worthwhile persuit (what a shame). Could be worse I suppose, he he

Joesin

06-24-05, 18:46

Hi Guys,

Just wondering if there are any clean hotels in Daan Mogot area for quickies? Just managed to pick up a gal from a salon. Ask me to buy a camera phone for her. i was thinking just pay her about Rp 250,000. that shd be enough right?

I will provide FR when i finish her.

Thanks!

Necro24

06-25-05, 03:50

Heck, sometimes I just walk up to them and say "Hi, my name is .... I think you are beautiful. Could I have your hp number so I could call you sometime?" That may sound ridiculous, but most times they will say yes. It's that easy in Jakarta.Actually it is that easy in most parts of the world. All you gotta do is strike fast and leave the number. As doc love would say, "He who hesitates, masturbates."

Necro24

06-25-05, 03:57

Master Diver II

06-25-05, 04:44

Hi Guys,

I bumped into 2 Indonesian girls about 24 years old in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia claiming to be Indonesian models. One Baby Julia (?) and the other Fifi Buntaran (?). Anyone heard of these girls? How about you JAD? Just curious because Fifi was stunning and said the magic phrase (nak berkenalan) hmmmmmmm. I'm most likely over to Jakarta on the 6th July and she said to call and she'd show me around. She like Burgundy in Grand Hyatt. Any advice?

MD II

Menteng

06-25-05, 09:14

Hi MD,

I did a search with Google and Fifi was listed as 1 of the 100 most sexy ladies in Indonesia (says FHM magazine). I didn't have time to search for a photo of her, but you might. So you could find out if the girl really is Fifi.

Prosal

06-25-05, 12:23

"She like Burgundy in Grand Hyatt"

:-)

Of course she does !!

Yet be aware. If it's not that difficult to shag false or real 'models' in Jakarta, this cost anyway A LOT if the ***** take you to the 'Trendy Spots Grand Tour' :

Diner in Blowfish or Cinabar (1 000 000 rps ++ for three, as your girl will inevitably bring a friend), followed of course by a few Martini Chocolates in Burgundy (100 000 rps ++/piece) or some glasses of expensives wines in Mana Lounge, then clubbing in Centro or Embassy (pricey), with maybe later the traditionnals 'after hours last drinks' in Retro (100 000 rps/piece).

Those are the places, among some others, where this kind of girls go out. They just don't accept to be seen elsewhere.

Pro

Jakboy

06-25-05, 12:39

After last weekends stadium happenings, and the fact that 26th (tomorrow) is anti narcotics day (posters and banners all over the city) - it might be prudent to give the Glodok clubs a miss this weekend - quite certain they are going to be punctuated by raids and cops

Hung Man 1808

06-25-05, 12:46

I did a search (thank you Google) and came up with the following picture. So, is she on the game or is it some other girl claiming to be her?

If it is true, then it just goes to show how fantastastic Jakarta is - if you survive the bombings, the raids, the disease, the drugs planted in your luggage etc etc. That's why you should stay away no matter how great the girls sound, and leave it to us thrillseekers who don't value life.

Fatty Joe

06-25-05, 15:04

Bro KLGUY

Is it that day u take the girl name FIFI? midnight going back 1. If confirm yes please tell our friend here. I think this girl try to con us here. Anyway bro KLGUY if you remember please inform bro PRO here. I also forgot her name. heheheheheh.

Hi MD,

I did a search with Google and Fifi was listed as 1 of the 100 most sexy ladies in Indonesia (says FHM magazine). I didn't have time to search for a photo of her, but you might. So you could find out if the girl really is Fifi.

Prosal

06-25-05, 20:34

QUOTE=Low Keith]Anyway if you remember please inform bro PRO here. heheheheheh.[/QUOTE]

Well, thanks for your intention to inform me. Just remember that JKT is packed with tons of girlies who ridiculously claim the status of 'model' but are not more 'models' than I am Nobel Prize.

BTW one of my best Indonesian friend is owner of the Elite Models Jakarta branch : do you mind if I share your exclusive informations with him ?

:-)

Pro

God of Gamblers

06-26-05, 11:37

I went to T and C and could not figure out what was going on. I just wanted to know where to get a girl and a room. I went at 10am yet I'm sure no one knew if it was night or day. They were all seriously tripping. I'm sure it would have been easy to lure some zonked e-chick to a hotel, but I'd rather deal with a pro. What's the deal there? Is the upstairs VIP strictly karaoke or is there more going on?

Thanks for the info.

PC Bum

06-26-05, 20:29

Hey guys, last week I submitted a post about my adventures in Jakarta. One of my episodes included my taxi taking me to a place where there was a room with a large window. This window had dark tint on the top and bottom, with only a small area uncovered. Inside the room on the other side of the window there was only one girl there when I went, but there were enough benches for at least 30 maybe 40 girls. Is this pretty common? Are there a lot of these places? What are they called? Are there normally 30 or more girls there? Just wondering b/c this seemed like a nice way to get your pick of the litter.
Thanks............

Master Diver II

06-27-05, 02:55

Low Keith, Pro, Menteng and not least Hung Man 1808 (how did you get that name?),

Many thanks for your responses. Hung Man, that is indeed the girl i met in KL. Her card actually says she is an MC/Singer. Where did you find the photo? I have to say she looked sweeter in real life, but you're right Pro, I'm sure she has expensive habits :). Yeah I'm familiar enough with Jakarta to know what it means when they like to go to Burgundy. We shall see. They did mention the FHM 100 sexiest ladies article but it's difficult to check from KL - I'd need to check the actual issue to be sure. Just to reiterate, I'm curious where hung man found the phot, please PM me the URL if you have it. Thanks again.

MD II

KL Guy

06-27-05, 05:04

Yes that day I took a girl named FIF but she is not the same as http://www.*************.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=23724. Anyway there are so many FIFIs in Jakarta and Im very sure mine wasn't a model!

KL Guy

Bro KLGUY

Is it that day u take the girl name FIFI? midnight going back 1. If confirm yes please tell our friend here. I think this girl try to con us here. Anyway bro KLGUY if you remember please inform bro PRO here. I also forgot her name. heheheheheh.

Smoothy

06-27-05, 13:47

Actually it is that easy in most parts of the world. Really? If I try that in the USA with a 19 year old girl, they will tell me to get away from them before they call the cops or to go fuck myself.

Hung Man 1808

06-27-05, 17:32

I managed to find the photo using google image search. I think typing her sirname in did the trick. Just trying various combinations of things like "fhm" "indonesian" "fifi" etc may turn up more.

Hope you actually did try her, or get to without serious expense in Jakarta soon. Probably is worth it just for bragging rights and good memories, but better hope she isn't a starfish. 2 million rupiah buys an awful lot of good times at Lokasari or Melawai.

I like to think of my name as a play of words on 'hangman' with a few numbers after for distinction. The females I've known may use another reasoning for the name.

Menteng

06-27-05, 18:31

I like to think of my name as a play of words on 'hangman' with a few numbers after for distinction. The females I've known may use another reasoning for the name.

The numbers in inches or centimeters ;-)

Bulai69

06-27-05, 21:37

Originally Posted by Necro24
Actually it is that easy in most parts of the world.

Really? If I try that in the USA with a 19 year old girl, they will tell me to get away from them before they call the cops or to go fuck myself.

- and UK and all of Western Europe, Australia, NZ.....and try it in the Middle East and your a dead man. So maybe Jakarta pretty unique after all?

Ekspat

06-28-05, 03:05

- and UK and all of Western Europe, Australia, NZ.....and try it in the Middle East and your a dead man. So maybe Jakarta pretty unique after all?Don't think so. It works in that way in other Indonesian cities like eg. Surabaya as well. IMHO also in Phnom Penh, Saigon or Manila.

Cheers!

Smoothy

06-28-05, 11:53

Don't think so. It works in that way in other Indonesian cities like eg. Surabaya as well. IMHO also in Phnom Penh, Saigon or Manila.

Cheers!When I said Jakarta, I should have said Indonesia. But yes, it's the same in many southeast asian places. Jakarta doesn't have some special mystique that other poor asian countries don't have. But if you are a westerner coming to southeast asia, it's good to know that the girls are unbelievably easy to pick up and not to be shy to go directly up to them. (Australia is not included in Southeast asia and neither are India or Bangladesh).

Bulai69

06-28-05, 12:20

- You're right of course, I meant Indonesia and to some extent other countries in the area, but not worldwide for sure.

I've not seen reports on Vertigo which is definitely the most "in" place for clubbing in Jakarta at the moment. It's new (hence "in") and situated on the top floor of Plaza Semmanggi. If anyone is thinking of going to find girls however, I suggest they forget it. I've been twice in the past couple of weeks and its been heaving but only with groups of people and couples (very few bules, which is good, mainly Chinese). There were a few single girls (in two's and three's) but I would say they represent well under 5% and not necessarily readily available. I only went because I know a girl in PR who works there. If you want to impress a girlfriend it's a good place to go, assuming she is fairly easily impressed.

Another place to miss is the club in the Ritz Carleton, which on the two or three times I've been has been pretty deserted even at the weekend. Some girls I spoke to elsewhere told me they are worried about bombs there. Also the HRC is no better, I had to there with someone last week.

Sorry to be negative, although I think it's worth knowing where not to go, especially for any newcomers as it avoids wasting time.

Necro24

06-28-05, 13:23

My apologies fellas.

Perhaps I over generalized when I said it's that easy in most parts of the world.

Noge14

06-29-05, 11:55

Her is an example "Marah ya? Pdhl gw pgn bgt crita2 ama John. abs ga munkn nolak ktmu nyokap." If you can translate that from any dictionary let me know....This is the free translation for you:

"You are angry, are you? Actually I really want to chat with John. Of course, it is impossible to reject meeting with mom."

Kodok

06-29-05, 14:08

Dick Nasty

06-29-05, 19:13

Kodok,

Local chinese are harder to find. But in 1001 you can find PRC. They have their own mama. just ask one of the mama if you are interested. You will find them in the lounge, they will not approach you, they will wait for you and mama will take care of the booking. But 1001 is not like BM or TC, usually you will spend time with them in a karaoke room, and depending how the date goes, you can book them to your hotel. Try them, they are of a good quality. I tried before and had a blast! Let us know.

DN

Adlian B

06-30-05, 05:57

Hey,

I am looking for some info on place in Kota. I've been to Bintang Mawar and Today Country.

I am looking for the MO - standard operating procedures at other place. I need places that are open in the afternoon and have a good chance of finding cute chinese girls.

Anyone know about 1001? I've heard they have CHN girls from PRC, but how do you get them?

How about Emporium on JL. Pecenojang? Do you ask for Karoke, massage, or what is the menu?

How about Oasis across from Lokasari? What kind of girls do they have their? What services are on the menu and how do you order them?

I am pretty familiar with Bintang Mawar and 6th floor of Malwai, but B-M has been pretty disappointing lately as far as CHN girls. Any other places I should be looking?

JAD do you have any recomendations?1001 offer chinese girls from PRC, as well as russians, uzbek and thai. once u're in 1001, proceed to the lower level and there will be the girls sitting around...sorta lounging. usually there will be someone who approach u and u can just ask the price on the girls. 1001 is pricey so if u have cash to spare. Go for it.

Never been to Emporium but a friend been there before. Massage is given your choice of locals or import china girls. If you go for China girls, it include sex and of course, price is upfront and expensive. Same goes for karaoke. Everything from hangky panky to full blown sex is allowed in the karaoke room but I think you need to negotiate the price with the girls.

Oasis offer only local girls but there's two type of massage. the regular massage and body massage. body massage is similiar to kartika-type massage. u can choose the girls as they are sitting in the lounge. u can't choose the girls from regular massage as they are identified only by numbers. so it's 50/50 chance unless u have insiders info. these usually coming from the male attandence in the sauna. couple of numbers i recommend:

25: Give excellent massage but u need to negotitate for anything from HJ-sex

33: Gave excellent massage, not really petite, just the right size and height i would say. love the part when she sit on your stomach and proceed to massage yer chest. groping is up to you.

19: Not afraid to offer you sex. somewhat busty from wat i can remember.

Hope the above info helps.

Jkt After Dark 2

06-30-05, 08:52

John Aldrich, Menteng, Bulai69, and Jaimito Cartero:

Sorry, I have been busy. How are you guys doing?

Guys,

Forget about the models they are not your cup of tea. Anyway, KL is a favourite destination for shopping these days. No surprise if you meet them there.

Necro24,

50 - 80 guys equiped with samurai length sword stormed Stadium. Creating a stage of anarchy they killed 2 to 4 men (please correc me guys) and fatally injured more. They clearly targeted Stadium security personnels and well-built employees. This is their retaliation after their gang leader was beaten up really bad by Stadium's security personnel 2 days earlier.

Kodok,

Do you speak decent B. Indonesia?

1001 is a super club. They have gaming (read: gambling) area, restaurants (Chinese, Asian, Japanese), disco, and KTV Karaoke. PRC girls are available for dry and wet companionship. Dry companionship for disco or Karaoke should cost you 500K for several hour. Wet companionship in the Karaoke room should cost you 2.500K for several hour, 1 shot only. Fees exclude room charge, drinks, and foods. Karaoke experience alone can cost you few million Rp. 500K tip after taking any type of service is costumary.

Emporium is also a super club. They have restaurants, disco, karaoke, and spa. I advice you to check out the spa. The bill doesn't run as elastic as Karaoke. Emporium is considered as 1st class spa along with Sumo, Tematic, Hotel Klasik, Boutique Hotel, and Beverly Hill. They normally price Chungkuok (PRC, Vietnamese, Mongolian, etc) at 1.5 million for 1.5 hour, 1 shot only. 500K tip for every extra shot is costumary. Emporium offers 45 min deal at 1 million. Some spas include room charge on their rate some don't.

For second grade PRC girls you can try Madona and Golden Flower. Madona charges 750K for 1 hour, 1 shot only. Golden Flower charges 650K for 1 hour, 1 shot only. 300K tip for every extra shot is costumary.

Good luck.

Member #3206,

At the back of Hotel Ciputra. It is located at Jl. Daan Mogot I no. 31.

Standard Room 50K (don't take it). VIP Room 60K. 75K for the girl for 1 hour, 1 shot only. 25K tip is costumary.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Dunia David

06-30-05, 10:07

I feel that all this talk of models, high class nightclubs, PRC girls at $200+ is leading the forum a little too upmarket.

I would love to know if anyone has tried the street meat down by Tanah Abang station of an evening? I also note there are several cheap hotels located near by.

Would just love a report on a right filthy time one may/may not experience - help out the guys not on the oil company expat package.

Akuma

06-30-05, 20:02

Hmm, interesting price for PRC girls in Madona and Golden Flower. May I ask where they are located? I usually go to Classic and Beverly Hill, but after some time it gets to be getting expensive. Would definately check on these 2 places.

Thanks

Ekspat

07-01-05, 04:49

I would love to know if anyone has tried the street meat down by Tanah Abang station of an evening? I also note there are several cheap hotels located near by.David, is it the station near that big market?

Approx. 2-3km westwards of Sarinah?

If yes, I've been there several times in 2003/04 coz having found a pearl (28y/o) in the rough there with excellent service. She asked for 50k for a ST, 20k for the nearby room, which was surprisingly clean, tip then 30k, so total damage 100k.
Unfortunately she's gone now and since no handphone, I don't know where she is, I looked for her several times in late 2004.

Haven't been there at night, mostly late afternoon. Not too sure if the area is fine for matsalleh (bule) at midnight or so.

Cheers!

Mangga

07-01-05, 06:11

Dunia David,

I tried branching out into the Tanah Abang scene over a year ago, before the market was burnt. There were a few tasty little fucklets around but I soon gave up because none of them wanted to go with me to my apartment. Some were happy to go to one of the local hotels, but I wanted to fuck them in the comfort of my own place, not in some fleabag hotel. Some seemed takut to go with a bule.

Best of luck if you try that scene, but with so much else on offer in Jakarta, to me it just seemed like too much hard work for nothing. If anyone else has some experience there, I'd love to hear about it as well.

Adlian B

07-01-05, 12:48

Bulai69

07-01-05, 20:18

Noge14 - excellent - even the girl on "Information" in PI didn't do it that well. I think you'll agree it's not that obvious: which is the basis of my "scam".

On a different point - girls, the like of which you can find in tanah abang and similar places are indeed often "takut" about bule and going off to places they don't know but you can usually mitigate their fear by taking two! If you find one you can just ask her if she has a girl friend and invariably one will appear from "nowhere". Elementary bahasa will be required for this exercise however. If your not confident about that, make sure your taxi driver speaks reasonable English and he will arrange it for you.

Bulai69

07-01-05, 20:26

Your right about there being many other opportunities but sometimes it's exciting (for me anyway!) to pick up "urchins" from the street. On the admittedly rare occasions I do, I usually take them to a cheap but OK hotel like IBIS (which of course I have to pay for) rather than my usual 5* hotel (which my client is paying for). The downside of this excitement is of course that the total cost of the exercise is more than picking up a more up-market girl elsewhere and taking her back to my 5* hotel, however it's just another experience from the infinite range of options available in this city.

Dorman

07-03-05, 05:15

Sorry, I come a bit late to this Fifi Bunteran thing but I felt I had to add my tuppence worth. Now as you know I am all for not overpaying the girls, I thoroughly believe in a fair's night's pay for a fair night's work but this applies to not handing over $100 to some girl you met at BATS when you could have had the same girl for 300 000 rps at chucking out time down in D's Place.

Now, gentlemen of the jury, as I understand it one of the sexiest girls in Indonesia (quite an accolade I think everyone here would agree) has intimated to one of our number that she might be interested in meeting up with him for some fun. Another of our esteemed colleagues, PRO, no slouch in the upmarket totty stakes, has estimated that a night with such a girl is gonna cost in the region of 2m rps. The question before us is whether our friend should take up this offer, to which my reply is; WHAT THE F...!

Can I put it this way, picture your deathbed, imagine as the shrouds of hades close in around you, just think, will your last thoughts be "Well at least I never paid out 2m rupes to shag that Fifi Bunteran bint, no sirree, not on one of FHM's sexiest ladies in Indonesia, you never caught me out like that, no I spent that $200 on...let me see...what was it again, I know I spent it on something worthwhile, I know I got the car serviced, no that wasn't it, it was a good pair of shoes...no hang on it was...gasp...if I could just remember...ugh!"

I rest my case.

PC Bum

07-03-05, 05:43

Hey guys,
Anyone have a list or at least a couple of good indonesian penpal sites? I read in a past post that if you check a public computer's history, you will see that the girls have been on penpal/personal sites. Therefore there should be tons of girls looking for men.

If you have any good Indo penpals/personal sites hook me up.
Thanks

Menteng

07-03-05, 09:19

Dorman I fully agree with you. When in Jakarta, I've seen some list with the rates of those more or less known girls. It started at 10 million rupiahs. Now let's hope that MD II can afford that taxi money also.

If so, will you please share the photo's with us afterwards, MDII? :p

Bulai69

07-03-05, 09:56

Dorman - I think without doubt the best site is "friendster" - there are thousands (literally) of Indonesian girls in there with photos and full details. I often search this site (when I'm in UK with no action!) and get girls lined up to meet. I think I've met one in practice because, inevitably, when I get there I am falling over them everywhere like the rest of us, so never round to seeing them.

Bulai69

07-03-05, 20:28

I've finally got round to posting photos of some of the girls I met during a week of activity - see photo section - not too much effort required as I'm sure regulars will confirm

Prosal

07-04-05, 11:17

Another of our esteemed colleagues, PRO, no slouch in the upmarket totty stakes, has estimated that a night with such a girl is gonna cost in the region of 2m rps. The question before us is whether our friend should take up this offer, to which my reply is; WHAT THE F...!

Dorman where did I said that one can shag a model in Jakarta for 200 $ ?

Is your brain that atrophied or is my english that bad ?

The point in my post was that a night's out in the hip spots, with a model-type indonesian girl like this Fifi, could cost around 2m rps. It was about the cost, which could be excessive for some guys, of dining and clubbing in Jakarta. Period. An aware guy like you surely knows that Jakarta was ranked the 45th most expensive city in the world, before Singapore, in the last year's Mercer Cost of Living Survey ( http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/popups/costofliving/popup.html ). That could be a fact to consider before targeting a upper-class regular girlie and inviting her for a 'Grand Tour' of the trendy spots.

Yet, I take no offense with your polemical "WHAT'S THE F...", as I agree that those points have surely not any importance for the guys who like better stick to expats ghettos like Blok M and f*** cheap kampung hoes.

Cheers

Master Diver II

07-04-05, 18:04

Guys,

Many thanks for all your comments. I have no qualms about a night out - whether in KL or Jakarta - and thereafter assessing what damage I'm willing to accept to my bank account. Thanks Pro, Dorman, Menteng and co. Of course, with any luck, I'll be able to minimise the pain because there will already be some serious sugar daddies out there footing major bills:).

Well in spite and despite all of that my trip to Jakarta is delayed :( til 11th July - yes, not long but a week can seem an eternity. I'm thinking of bringing a couple of friends to meet JAD to seek his wisdom. Another 3 nighter on the cards and hopefully I'll have my damn photo editing software sorted out by then. Cheers.

MD II

Bulai69

07-04-05, 19:14

Thanks to those (30 plus people) who PM'd me about my recent photo postings. I'm sorry to those who wanted phone numbers but I'm afraid I can't give out phone numbers of "amatuer" or semi-pro girls as it could cause them a problem. I hope nobody thinks I'm being "precious" about this, but I think out of respect for the girls it should be their decision (not mine) about who gets their numbers - even if they aren't careful themselves.

KL Guy

07-04-05, 19:57

Good move Bulai!

Thanks to those (30 plus people) who PM'd me about my recent photo postings. I'm sorry to those who wanted phone numbers but I'm afraid I can't give out phone numbers of "amatuer" or semi-pro girls as it could cause them a problem. I hope nobody thinks I'm being "precious" about this, but I think out of respect for the girls it should be their decision (not mine) about who gets their numbers - even if they aren't careful themselves.

Kodok

07-05-05, 00:56

Alifulani

07-05-05, 04:30

All:

I too have waited impatiently and wonderingly for B69's latest parade of girls from his latest trip to Jakarta. Finally, we are rewarded. In all his exploits (others give "reports" while he "exploits"), there is always the calm steady hand of B69 on the tiller, soothingly informing us of his latest travails to that wondrous city. He is a masterful captain. He encourages us, and cajoles us to strive for bigger and better things. He is not content on merely mongering like the rest of us mere mortals. He sits atop Olympus with the rest of "favored ones" and begs us to join him. We - unfortunately cannot. So we must rely on the readings of his accounts and hope to someday be able to become mere faded and tarnished copies of him.

The exploits will always have a smattering of his undoubtedly favorite, 30 's Bar. There seem to be a never ending line of girls there saying "B69, pick me, pick me..." Other times he will go through the steps of his masterful "Mall Wandering" technique. How elusive to the rest of us, is that 15 second mall pickup that B69 talks about as if it were as sure as the sun rising in the east.

And always, oh yes, as if to quench our thirst, a few well composed and finely resolved works of art. The pictures !

But wait, what is this ? The beginning of a new chapter ? a newly turned over leaf ? a sea change ? Previously, the pictures had been of the girls, and only the girls. Now, it seems that B69 is "injecting" himself into the action.

This event cannot go unheralded. And therefore, for all of you fans of B69 such as myself I offer the attached.

Respectfully to B69,

af

Billy Bishop

07-05-05, 07:33

Hi all,

After having such a blast last time I've decided to return to Jakarta this July for about 3 weeks. Can anyone recommend a good place to stay that might give me a better rate for such a long visit? I've been searching through the archives and I haven't found anything quite suitable yet.

I hoping I can find something reasonably classy for less than 250,000/night. Location isn't too important as long as I'm nowhere too sketchy.

Thanks in advance for your help guys.

Makedono

07-05-05, 10:03

Hi,

I saw on TV last night a karaoke establishment got raided by the police and place was 'sealed off'. Couldn't get the name of the karaoke but there were a lot of sexily addressed GROs and very embarassed customers. Anyone knows which karaoke?

Adlian B

07-05-05, 14:05

OK,

1001 - where is the lounge? I've been to the Disco before, but I've never seen a lounge with girls in it? Is 1001 open in the afternoons?

Emporium - So if I go for the SPA treatment, how are the rooms? Is this place open in the afternoons with a nice selection of girls?

Golden Crown - same as above, open for good service in the afternoons? Where is it located?

Raja Mas - I've seen the signs for this above Glodok-Jaya, what services do they have there?

Are there any places with FISHBOWLS in Jakarta that have CHN girls?I believe the lounge is at the lower level.just below the restaurant if i'm not mistaken. Heck, just ask the ppl working there where's the "ceweq cungkwok".

If you go to crown massage, they have PRC girls too at the lower floor. it's on the 5th floor whereas the club is 7th floor and up i believe. the massage is open at 12pm.

I'll avoid raja mas since it's rather infamous for raids and other unpleasantness.

Mighty Spearsman

07-05-05, 16:13

OK...Are there any places with FISHBOWLS in Jakarta that have CHN girls?
Try the Hotel Sentral in Jakarta Timur, although I did not have much luck when I went here in August 2004.

Walk up two floors above the lobby, go into the bar/disco, then bear to the left (with the stage on your right), and to the left of the bar, you'll find at least 25 girls in a "fishbowl."

The deal last summer was 45,000 rupiah per hour, 2 hour minimum, the girl had to stay with you either in a karaoke room or in a booth in the dark bar/club, but couldn't leave (at least, that's what they told me).

When I went, I made the mistake of picking a cute 19 year old with virtually no English. Spent 45 minutes in a karaoke room with her, then gave up and decided to cut my losses. I got to play around with her tits and legs a bit, but it didn't look as if anything more would happen. I suppose that the girl might have been willing to give HJ or BJ once we were sitting in the dark bar (after the hour in the karaoke room was up), but I wasn't sure, and her English was crappy, so I gave up.

My guess is that I (a) should have picked a girl who speaks English, or (b) need to learn more Bahasa Indonesian.

Hope you have better luck than I did :)

Dorman

07-06-05, 05:15

Jeez PRO, what bug got up your ass? I now realise that humour in posts in this forum is clearly unappreciated by some members here so I apologise if you failed to get the point of my lighthearted post. I was suggesting that a night out with the aforementioned young lady if it cost you $200 was cheap at the price (hence my ridiculous allusion to the deathbed scene trying to remember what else you could spend it on... aw heck, if you don't have a sense of humour there's no point in trying to explain the joke). I accept that you didn't actually say you'd get any action and for that I apologise, I was actually being complimentary to you as we all know you are the man for the upper-echelon girls, hey that's fine, no need to be so offensive however just because I like slumming it down the Blok, that's my taste too.

I seem to recall making just these points before when you got started on the 'ugly kampung chicks', again at that time I tried to use humour in order to keep this forum as friendly as it usually is but again it seemed to have failed with you. In order that there is no further misunderstanding I'll state my position as clearly as possible. Here goes; PRO is the undoubted master of the Musro/Cinna Bar/Burgundy scene, all hail to him oh mega punter. Dorman, who only visits these places with his girlfriend so doesn't want to get caught shitting in his own nest, is a lowlife, he cannot possibly hope to attain the glorious heights of pussydom attained by PRO, no, instead Dorman likes to have a bit of uncomplicated fun down the Blok with the kampung girls on a Friday night.

OK so now we're clear where we all stand PRO, each to his own eh? We know you're the man, we know you da boss! Get over it already, lighten up ferchrissakes we're all just having a laugh here.

Prosal

07-06-05, 13:20

Dorman I am amazed that you find the time to read my posts and make those vitriolic (you call humoristic) commentaries. If you think they are so full of shit then why do u care so much to comment ?

Anyway you're right ; we are not the same my friend. We have totally different mentalities. Trust me on that one. I don't come to Jakarta to indulge in 24 hrs of cheap pussy, but for various reasons that include being with some of my best friends who actually are indonesians and who are well-known characters of the 'in' JKT crowd.

Anyway maybe you should try to experience Jakarta away from the cheap bule-oriented P4P scene, you might like it. But maybe you already know that Blok M is a VERY small and a VERY unrepresentative scene of this tremendous 17 Millions inhabitants megapole ?

Adlian B

07-06-05, 14:01

Bulai69

07-06-05, 15:04

It's a while since you posted! I'm humbled by your comments - the reason for my "exposure" by the way, is not a sudden bout of immodesty but the fact that I got a different camara (in the interest of forum members of course) which enables photos my previous one didn't.

I must add, that as those who are familiar with Jakarta will know well, anybody can do it..

Billy Bishop - if you want good cheap accomodation why not try a serviced appartment? Have a look back a couple of months, there were postings on this. You could get a decent place for 3 million a month

Kodok

07-06-05, 19:07

So where is Golden Crown located?

Can you pick the girls youself, or do you have to know the magic number?

Master Diver II

07-07-05, 02:17

Pro, Dorman,

Relax. I'm half regretting asking for information if it causes this kind of reaction. We're all here for a similar if not exactly the same reason. Everyone has their own tastes and it would be better if we all respected that. Let's not repeat what happened in the Bangkok forum with a few of the members there.

Anyway, I'll be in Jakarta on Monday to get a couple of nights of stress relief (great excuse and of course not the same reason I give the Home Minister:D). I haven't set an agenda yet, but who knows what tomorrow brings. Anyone passed Kaha or Indotel recently who can tell me what rates you can get for Le Meridien, Park lane or Mulia? I can get ridiculously good rates at the Hilton, what are the rooms like?

MD II

Dorman

07-07-05, 05:01

hey md don't worry about it this is nothing to do with your request and all to do with pro's deep insecurity complex, which leads him to believe that unless he continually tells everyone he's really popular with the posh ladies we might not believe him. "woowee look at me folks i have friend's in jakarta's in-crowd", aw christ pro mate, ya really gotta do better than that!

i was checking back through the archives a week or two back when i came across one of pro's contributions from i think it was 2002 or sometime. basically this consisted of a rant against some poor bugger who had the temerity to say he liked some joint up in kota. well was he ever sorry, as pro lit into him telling everybody who cared to listen that he wouldn't go there coz he only screwed high class chicks. this seems to be an interminable theme of his; only pro shags upmarket birds and all the rest of us proles make do with dogs. yadda yadda, we got it now pro, we understand we really do, you're the mastermonger, now will you give it a rest and allow us to enjoy what we like to do, huh? is that to much to ask for?

but then a thought struck me, if pro only hangs out with the higher end birds why does he spend so much time here? i mean judging by the speed of his replies he's on here every day. last time i checked most of the reports here concern places like jaksa, blok m, kota, tiga puluh, the atrium mall etc (check back if you don't believe me) so what could possibly interest the great i am here?

i realised also that we never actually get any reports from pro, no amusing anecdotes, no cautionary tales, no enlightening discoveries, no interesting insights, no saucy snaps, you know the kind of things that the rest of us great unwashed regularly contribute to this forum. no all we get from pro is the same thing "i only shag posh birds, honestly i do, you lot shag ugly women, not like me, by the way did i tell you i have friends in jakarta's in crowd? i do you know, i'm ever so popular with them."

listen pro my friend, whatever gets you through the night, ok? we believe you, we do, we all accept that you have friends in jakarta's in crowd, we really are so envious. we understand that you could not possibly breach the confidences of such an illustrious set of high flyers to actually tell us about it and that that's the reason you don't actually post anything informative we understand honestly we do.

like i said i hang out in all the places you've mentioned, most of them are a five minute cab ride from my apartment and frankly most of them are as dull as airport lounges but i concede you get off just in being in such esteemed company, and like i said before if that's what floats your boat then fine by me. i go there with my girlfriend, she's a pretty high class jakarta girl herself and boy do i have the credit card bills to prove it! hardly a month goes by but my statements don't bear the names prada, versace, dkny, well you know what indonesian ladies are like, heaven help us last month she fell in love with manolo blahnik, ouch! my point is that i'm very happy with that, i think if a man's wife or girlfriend looks good and is expensively dressed it makes him look good too. conversely however if a man's wh*res wear gucci then he just looks like an idiot, but if that's what you like, well knock yourself out big fella!

p.s. pro has friends in jakarta's in crowd, but keep it under your hat he doesn't want everyone to know!

Handoko

07-07-05, 13:33

XXL

07-07-05, 17:12

My grain of salt regarding so-called "top-models".

I don't even try to get Indonesian top-models into my bed. To start with, in my book a top-model (= fashion model) is 1.80 m (5.91 feet) tall. The Indonesian pseudo models would never even get admittance in a modelling school in the rest of the world because they don't have the minimal body-size required. They are only top-models with respect to other Indonesian girls and with respect to sea-level. If I want to spend money on a top-model I go to Russia or Africa where I can have genuine cat-walk creatures without jeopardizing myself too much.

I go to Indonesia to enjoy what Indonesia has to offer that other countries haven't, or at least not to such an extent. One of them is, how shall I put it? ... youthfulness. For reasons related to the way organized crime and corruption works in Indonesia, that commodity is particularly abundant in the dumps where the Chinese mafia operates. Conversely, it is rare or absent in more upmarket venues.

Hartono's or someone else's models may fetch 300 dollars or more in JKT but I bet they would'nt fetch much more than that in Europe. Some of the girls I've had in JKT however, could not even be had for 10 000 dollars in Europe. Again, the reasons for this should be obvious.

Bulai69

07-07-05, 18:33

"who can tell me what rates you can get for Le Meridien, Park lane or Mulia? I can get ridiculously good rates at the Hilton, what are the rooms like?"

Meridien and Park Lane can be around US $70 room and breakfast. Hilton rooms are fine but it's slightly less convenient in so far as you always have more of a problem getting a taxi there because it's not right next to a main highway. Also you rarely find girls in the hotel (compared with th eothers you mentioned)

Dick Nasty

07-07-05, 20:52

1001 got sealed-off by Local Government.Woowww, it came to a surprise to me that 1001 was raided and now closed. 1001 has been providing hard core entertainment for many years in the past and never been touch by the police. I know the owner paid big money for LE protection. Someone must have step on someone's toes and got closed. But again, In Indonesia money will do the talking, it is that powerful.

Still though, 1001 was considered LE proof for many years and that is why people aren't worry about being raided. I had a few crazy time at 1001 myself, although pricey for Indonesian standard. I love the karaoek rooms, quite nice and fuck a few girls in there.

There are many more places simliar,so not to worry about.
I personally enjoy semi pro because they are just as nice, the only thing they are not as shophisticated like the expensive models. But when they are young and fresh, it serve me well. A tight pussy, is a tight pussy..hehe When the girls give me great services is what I enjoy. I enjoy the fair to brown skin ones. I get chinese frmo time to time at discos in Kota. Onec I met a chinese girl at BM, she likes me so much she came to meet me at my hotel. She even brought condoms for me hehehe... she was so Hot and fuck her at least 5 times that night.

As for Hartono, I rather spend on girls at the mall or clubs. 2 years ago, I went to Hartono just to check out the girls, no conversation because the pimp was there. the following week I met the same girl I saw in Hartono in public and start talking to her. I pretend as if I didn't know her, but I am positive that she was the one at hartono that night. So we then went out on a date and got a real fine time in bed at the cost of an amateur. I have girls asked me to try 3 some and ask me if I have a friends. I told them i will find someone. Let me know if ur interested.

It helps if you speak Bahasa Indonesia because it will make them more relax. I learn all the slang words and know exactly what they like to hear. But YMMV.

can't wait to get back to Jkt. I have girls sms me and ask when i come again. Wow, life is good :) I am looking forward some of you mongers when I am in Jkt, we can share and echance more info

DN

Dorman

07-08-05, 04:44

You know PRO I used to have some respect for you (as would have been obvious from the original post to which you take exception), I thought you were a bit of an arrogant wanker but at least you seemed to have some good connections. Now I see you for the pathetic toe rag you really are.

You really have some serious self esteem issues going on. Everyone else here is agreed that Jakarta is pretty much a shithole and there is one - AND ONLY ONE - reason to want to come here. That reason is the huge availability of lovely, friendly, sweet natured women here (ADULT women you tosser!) who like to hang out with guys like us. We reciprocate in kind and we really do not give a fiddler's fart for their social backgrounds, we just respect them for the great fun girls that they are.

But YOU, you despise that, you sneeringly deride us for that, you actually come to Jakarta for the social scene! I mean what are you like? The Jakarta "In Crowd"? For crying out loud, what planet are you inhabiting? This ain't Knightsbridge or Beverly Hills man, it's Jakarta!

What exactly is this high-falutin' jet-setting "In Crowd" you seem so grovellingly fond of? Let me guess, the 'artis' who plays the third high schoolkid from the left on that early evening 'sinetron'? No, well it must be the deputy provincial governor who for a small fee of ten percent can get your business licence approved? Or maybe it's the fourth runner-up in the 2003 Indonesian Idol contest? Could it be that mincing 'banci' bloke who comperes the dangdut competition on Metro TV? Jeez, you could really see Evelyn Waugh or F Scott Fitzgerald getting a couple of novels out of that crowd of bright young things can't you?

Grow up PRO, don't be such an arse licker, I understand that to be in the company of such royalty has gone to your head but if you just took it out of your ass you might get some oxygen and see straight.

-TO THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS-

I'm very sorry that this board is slipping into the way of the Thai board but I would like to point out that I believe myself to be one of the people who over the past months has been among the main contibutors helping to keep this forum the helpful, friendly lighthearted place it has been, I'm not sure the same can be said for PRO.

I have been offensively and viciously attacked for no obvious reason by PRO just because I posted a perfectly innocuous response to another poster's question, he has now accused me of being involved in unspeakble sexual deviancy without the slightest shred of evidence and I have reported him to the administrators for this, I'll leave it to the other members here to decide who is destroying the good natured banter that existed heretofore.

Ekspat

07-08-05, 05:18

Everyone else here is agreed that Jakarta is pretty much a shithole and there is one - AND ONLY ONE - reason to want to come here. That reason is the huge availability of lovely, friendly, sweet natured women here (ADULT women you tosser!) who like to hang out with guys like us. Have to agree, thats the point, the in-crowd and showoff-scene and paying 10$ for a cocktail I may have in KL or Singapore much better.

It seems, you two will become good friends by the time. Lets get back to the basics and calm down.

Cheers!

Tamurlane26

07-08-05, 06:00

It is with pleasure that am returning to this board after a brief sejourn in other parts and also I apologise to all as have been east and west and yet to post a filing - yet.

To return to the point let us take the example of Alifulani and his charming and witty report and the erudite comments of Bulai69 and move away from postings of a more recent nature - which I concur are reminiscent of Thailand and which we would do well to avoid.

There is the old adage that "one man's meat is another man's poison" and may I respectfully suggest that the war of the words - not to be confused with the recent scientologist version from a less well known member of our fraternity Tom Cruise ( arent we all !!) - be better confined to pm's where the rest of us do not have to read.

So may we pour oil on troubled waters and move swiftly along to new matters - to whit the "red" of Bulai69 is a treasure and I confess to being the beneficiary of her favours. To this I humbly tip my hat to B69 who obviously warmed her up to the extent that once the season was over the dam burst and I was the recipient - mind you I had a little problem explaining to the home minister what the marks on the neck where !! Fortunately the gift she left me was very small - this is an advantage of Indonesian girls the teeth are less sharpened than their counterparts in other regions and so they leave a delicate imprint !! Mind you the imprint on my mind - alas I only have a camera phone at present - of her rising triumphantly from a bbj and mounting the pole and rising as the morning light streamed into the room is enough to transport me away from the bile of recent reports to a joyful land which we would all rather inhabit.

To each his own
In the paradise we may one day call home.
When bitter is a beer and the girls shed a tear
Let the smile draw you in
To a land where we may sin.

To those who are real poets I apologise perhaps writing this in Singapore - please see another post !! - lets the mind wander to sweeter climes and the warmth of Maria and others.

I salute Indonesian Womanhood and all its diversity and long may we continue to have a discussion board where wit and good humour are the order of the day and where there is honour amongst us.

Enjoy the weekend to all

Mangga

07-09-05, 08:29

bulai69,

as always, your advice is sage and true. when attempting to pick up from the street in tanah abang i should have asked for two! being greedy isn't always bad! i don't know why i didn't think of it myself. my indonesian is good enough, so i think i might just check out the scene down there again soon....

you are also correct that there is a certain animal excitement to be gained from hunting around in the wilds of such places. that's what drew me there in the first place.

i'm back in jakarta in a week. yippee! i've already lined up two new prospects on a website. one is a certain fuck, who is just hanging out to suck my cock (in her words...) and the other may take just a little (a very little) more coaxing. ah, this is life....

Tamurlane26

07-09-05, 15:53

Re your well known Malaysian - recently I set up a friend in Malaysia with someone and the person turned out to be a tv actress - mind you the funny part was she went to the room he had no condom gave her 100USD for her time and she still asked the agent for the fee.

Now there must be a moral in there somewhere - answers on a postcard please and in the mean time enjoy the humour of the moment !

Billy Bishop

07-10-05, 04:12

Bulai69,

Yup, I noticed your mention of the Takes Mansion option and I'd love to get the contact information for that or any other serviced apartment you know of that might be in the same price range.

Thanks in advance,

Billy

Priamos

07-10-05, 15:51

I visited Jakarta on business last week and managed to slip away from my colleagues on a couple of evenings to pursue our common "hobby". Following the recommendations from this thread (thanks!) I went to the famous Blok M and had a fair amount of fun.

What I was, however, totally unprepared for was the degree of action that took place under my nose, in my hotel - the upmarket Mulia Senayan. Around 10 p.m. their music bar ("CJ Bar") turns into one of the most unashamed pickup places I have seen. - Unashamed because, unlike similar places in, say, Rio and Bangkok, it remains upmarket. Many of the men wear ties, all of the women are well dressed and smile demurely in all the right places, the band is excellent, the bar is well stocked and... the hotel staff opens the doors for you as you walk the night's catch to your room: "have an excellent night, Mr. ******". The price for the action is just under 50 USD for a reasonably long-term engagement (I don't know about all-nighters, as I don't fancy that), which is relatively high for Jakarta, but a bearable pain. The main hitch is, Hotel Mulia is quite expensive and I cannot swear that I would have stayed there had I had to pick up the cheque myself.

Bulai69

07-10-05, 16:48

Jaimito Cartero

07-11-05, 00:55

That's why it's so important to really read back a ways to find out all the info. CJ's is pretty nice. I pulled a nice chica for $35-$40 for TLN. You will get some that ask for lots more, but there are plenty to choose from.

Becak Boy

07-11-05, 01:51

Ekspat

07-11-05, 04:12

but cannot recall exactly where 30 Bar is located. It's in Le Meridien Hotel, Jalan Sudhirman.

Downstairs.

Have fun!

Smoothy

07-11-05, 05:38

Avid follower of the Jakarta mongering scene, but cannot recall exactly where 30 Bar is located. Can you enlighten me Bulai 69, as l will be visiting Jakarta again in the near future?

Thanks in advance.

BBLe Meridien Hotel.

Smoothy

07-11-05, 05:58

Priamos - the situation you describe at Mulia is the same in all 5 star hotels in Jakarta though the popularity of the music bars/clubs varies from place to place.Maybe not all. I dont think hotels like the Mandarin Oriental, Four Seasons, Hilton or Dharmawangsa have anything going on.

The top 3 5 star hotel bar/discos are:
(all top 3 have live bands that play pop music)
1) Shangri La - BATS
2) Le Meridien - 30
3) Mulia - CJ's (best place in Jakarta on Sunday, too crowded on Fri and Sat)

Other popular ones are:

Crowne Plaza - Retro (techno - no live band)
Hotel Aryaduta - Tavern (pop)
Hotel Park Lane - Stix (salsa/pop)
JW Marriott - Unnamed bar (pop)
Hotel Borobadur - Musro (techno - no live band)
Grand Hyatt - Burgundy (jazz)

I hear the Ritz Carlton has one as well, but that it's not that great. I've never been there. I didn't even know they had completed that hotel.

Joel Goodsen

07-11-05, 13:43

Priamos - the situation you describe at Mulia is the same in all 5 star hotels in Jakarta though the popularity of the music bars/clubs varies from place to place. CJ's is certainly very popular as you saw but BATS at Shangri La is similar as is 30 Bar at Meridien and Retro at Holiday Inn. 50 USD is OK and fairly typical but you can certainly get same standard for 30 USD (all night) or pay 100 USD for the same girl. As always, willingness to pay and supply and demand govern prices. CJ's is probably the best place to go on Sunday nights, 30 Bar is closed that night.Nope, monsieur Bulai. Disagree.

Retro - Crowne Plaza, not Holiday Inn. I wouldn't go there.

Check out CJ's. It's more popular then the others at the moment. Big crowds on the big nites when there's great live music and on-stage performance. Many promiscous and gorgeous young girls too. Notable, of a higher standard than Blok M.

Priamos is absolutely right.. popular and albeit being upmarket and far more stylish, currently the place may feel as if you were visiting Mybar in Pelatehan! In fact, there were some familiar faces I recognized from there. I think, they -the girls- pay an entry fee of 60.000IR to get in.

Tamurlane26

07-11-05, 14:26

To those whose budget does not stretch to the Mulia or whose company is more hirsute with their expenses why not go down past the Sarina and past Jalan Sabang - where there is more food of the normal kind than we might like to mention and venture to Cipta.

The beauty of this place is that it is directly opposite Jalan Jaksa and is extremely friendly although I wish they would stop calling me Mr Titik - a joke am sure B69 will enjoy. Rationale was she booked me and got the local rate and so now they charge me local price all the time for the amusement of using her name !! Fortunately the joke is lost on the new paramours that venture into the place.

Close to the busway and near to a 24hr Starbucks in case you feel the urge to share your photos with us at all times of the day and night - and also close to the 24hr McD where other fare can be found loitering in the wee hours looking for your attention.

What more can one ask for and all for less around 35USD per night !! With luck all my parsimony will translate into a new camera and you shall all be the beneficiaries rather than having to read my poor prose !!

Master Diver II

07-11-05, 15:27

here i am back in jakarta again, wondering why i can only spend 2 nights here:(. i managed to get quite a good rate for mulia (rp750,000 but no bf) through a friend so i decided last minute to stay here for old times sake. this inevitably means a quick trip to cjs tonight. hopefully there will be something worthwhile to report.

becak boy, 30 bar is in le meridien; just enter, go to the right and all the way to the end near the lebenese(?) restaurant and you cant miss it. ah fond memories there too. too many places, too little time.

speaking of which, how will i find time to go and peek in cipta. chalky is doing a good job advertising on the establishment's behalf. you have been a busy see chalky; i think i've seen you posting in a few different forums all within the last week or so - but it has to be said reasonably sound advice.

time for a quick dinner now then cjs :d.

md ii

Bulai69

07-11-05, 16:59

Apologies for missing these questions in PM's, I've had so many questions recently about my photos. Takes can be contacted on +62 21 3926 111 and (as reported by MDII) 30 Bar is in Meridien Hotel. Note it's actually called Tiga Puluh Bar, tiga puluh = 30. It opens early but limited action before 10pm and closes at 2am, I think they usually charge about 60k to get in which gets a first drink. Residents get in free with a guest, maybe more than one if you are regular. For new visitors to 30, I would say 70% of the girls who are not with a man are available to be picked up; maybe 20% are 100% hookers and the rest semi-pro/amateurs. 300k - 400k is a typical ST/LT price. If you are alone the hookers will approach you and ask if you are alone ("sendiri ?"), the others will (apparantly) ignore you, but just say "hello, are you with your boyfriend" or some other banal chat up line and chances are you'll be away.

Bulai69

07-11-05, 22:42

Jaimito Cartero

07-12-05, 01:32

In the interest of avoiding confusion, and not wishing to nit-pick, Crowne Plaza is in the Holiday Inn chain, I'm looking at a receipt from there right now and it has Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza at the top.

Not sure about Asia, but the Holiday Inn line is okay in other parts of the world, and includes Intercontinental at the high end, and Holiday Inn Express at the lower end. HI is definitely not my favorite either, I had to stay at one for a couple of nights at LAX a couple of weeks ago and even the famous Clinton (George) was staying there.

Charm City Dave

07-12-05, 01:32

I've been to Thailand and Brazil and in the words of Huey Lewish need a new drug. I've always heard good things about Jakarta and thought what the heck. I've read back about a month and found a lot of odds and ends but no good FAQs or full trip reports. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Also, is it safe there now for Americans? Any special precaution? I go to Brazil all the time, but that is about the limit of how far on the dangerous side I like to walk.

Thanks,

Yada yada yada

Tamurlane26

07-12-05, 02:15

Master Diver

Of course one has to be busy and move around - it is always harder to hit a moving target. I found the Cipta more by accident than anything else on a recent stay - it is small and clean and centrally located and of course close to Jaksa if that is your bent. I confess that I had never been into Jaksa before that stay and a very amusing place it is as well however prefer to go to the malls and other locations to search for fun and games.

Agree with the comments on the Ritz Carlton - I went there the other week and was mightily disappointed with the crowd - all middle aged bouffant hairdos !! Most amusing was one stunner who looked gourgeous in the dark but once outside waiting for the taxi - and fortunately with someone else - when she smiled - oh dear it was a nightmare !! Mind you one is reminded of the old adage "why look at the face when you stoke the base" ! It would have been worth it as the legs were stunning and the overall body was model Ferrari !

This week Thailand so please expect a different location for the reports - and still have yet to file on Manado and Goronatalo

Dog Day

07-12-05, 05:43

Went to Beverly Hills spa. Very nice place, and quite clean.
Regular sauna, whilrpool, bath, massage.
Upstairs is a lounge and that is where the action is. 30-40 handpicked girls from China. Going rate is 150 USD. A hard choice since the owner probably selected the best of the best. Good looks, nice racks and body. Thye parade in their bikinis and u can call a group, oogle and make your choice. I settled for an Indonesian girl though ( I come from china and wanted something different) They have a couple of local girls and but was no contest for the great looking chinese girls. She was from Java, 20 years old, petite, nice racks...a 7 but great service. Tongue bath, even sucked my toes, great ball sucking and BBBJ, and really tight pussy. Charge was 60 USD

Dunia David

07-12-05, 06:35

I am searching for more info. from the sick puppies that have been living Jakarta some time and are not on the multinational expense budget to have a 5* hotel room to make forays back and forth from a la B69.

I have located a few fine 3-6 hour hotels that all charge around 150K. They are the Kaiser near Kalibata, a couple down on Jl Simatupang just south of Pondok Indah, Bintang something next to Stats. office in Pasar Baru and Oasis Amir in Senen. These are all places that are about 3-4 star standard and fine. There are some others in the Mega Group - Matraman, Menteng etc that are further down the scale.

I would love to add to my list if someone has more to add. I am just one of the humble punters here on a small busdget and with a gf parked at home so need the other options.

I am still summoning up the courage for the trip to the wilds of Tanah Abang and would love details from someone that has done deed and used the local hotels down in that area.

More than a few years here makes the easy pickings that you fly in and fly out guys just a little dull I am afraid to say - look out for what u may become if u accept that posting here longer term!

Joel Goodsen

07-12-05, 09:42

Smoothy/Joel Goodson - You're right of course, all I meant was that every hotel which has a music bar is similar in so far as you can pick girls up there. As you say, some hotels don't have one. I'm not sure what you disagree with JD - I wasn't advocating Retro as a pick up place particularly, although girls can certainly be picked up there. It's open later than some (eg 30 bar) and girls who haven't been picked up often move on to Retro when 30 bar closes.

There is a bar in Ritz Carlton as I reported a copy of weeks ago, definitely worth a miss. In the interest of avoiding confusion, and not wishing to nit-pick, Crowne Plaza is in the Holiday Inn chain, I'm looking at a receipt from there right now and it has Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza at the top.Sure, you're right. Most know it as Crowne Plaza, but it's part of the Holiday Inn chain. okay. maaf, yah.

disagree..? Well, if i read correctly, the Retro was mentioned in the same line with the other 3 five star places. Stayed in the Crowne myself a few months ago. Visited the Retro at various times, a handful of pro's to be seen. Unattractive pro's. And drooling over JG, didn't like it.. I'll be miles better off visiting the mentioned other 3 five star places and even the bars in Blok M.

Also, I wouldn't save CJ's for Sunday nites. It's too good for that. If one doesn't like big crowds of Fridays/Saturdays, maybe. Terserah. But, the high quality of the stock, also on weekdays, don't wanna miss out. Went about 5 times las month. And as mentioned, great live performances and things are delightfully unashamed.. Visited with someone on a few occassions, no prob.. "what's your room number, hon? i can come over tomorrow". Left some nights at closing time and saw absolute stunners leaving the place.. unescorted!! .. What a petty. Young girls, a moon of unexperience shining in their eyes.. high 9's in looks.

So, yes that's what I wasn't agreeing on. tidak penting!

Gzono

07-12-05, 15:04

I managed to get quite a good rate for Mulia (Rp750,000 but no BF) through a friend so I decided last minute to stay here for old times sake.

Hey MD is 750000 rate for WSGs? If so please cos this is very cheap

CJs has gone off IMHO the girls are more pro and less semis available but as with all places you can be lucky

as I was in Blok M last week at Ds-absolute honey for taxi money and well I chose to take her out next day etc

So Cjs is good for showing visitors but many Indo girls dont like the high % of Chinese there

750K-how who whatwhen?

Master Diver II

07-12-05, 16:31

There never seems to be enough time in Jakarta. I understand why the great man (Bulai69) seems to do his reporting after he departs this land of fair and lovelies. I'm trying to do so this time while it's still fresh in my mind - cant expect anything to stay fresh for too long in a corrupted brain!

On with the report; on entering CJs last night at about 11, I was concerned that the selection was a bit more sparse than I remembered - but hardly suprising for a Monday night. There were a few interesting ones however most were already occupied. I then spied a bunch of 4 who looked semi pro or pro and walked to the bar nearby and ordered my drink. By the time I was halfway through, there was a clear invitation from the smallest and sweetest one - who me? Strolled over and was directly asked if I wanted some action - ah pro then, not normally my style but she seemed friendly. Ok, and off we went.

Standard check of her KTP revealed that she had clearly ben born a few years later than stated - she couldn't have been more than 21 but the KTP said 1978 and my maths isn't that bad! I spied her Universitas card - economics student, well that makes sense:). Up to the room and we started on the sofa before moving on to the bed. She also didn't rush and we had a long warm up session to the main event. Very enjoyable all in all. She left her phone number in case of emergency. She was in for 500K LT or ST (staying in Mulia seems to inhibit your bargaining power).

I had a repeat session at 2.30pm this afternoon when she brought another friend for a threesome. No lesbo show however strictly the straight stuff:( but nonetheless enjoyable again. Ended up poorer by 400K a head - hmmmm this Mulia lifestyle is something I should be wary of. Mind you, in effect 4 girls in 24 hours must mean that the gym sessions have had a positive effect somewhere even if I cant see any difference. On with tonight.

MD II

JC,

There are some presentable Holiday Inns in this part of the world and Bulai's right Crowne Plaza is linked. I think the ones in Singapore are not too bad either.

Moreyada,

I've seen some complete trip reports posted earlier here by a few of the regulars - was it Dorman or someone like that?

Dunia David,

I'm worried for you. There are some superb BBBJs available around Jakarta and you're contemplating the ladyboys. Maybe some anal action:D - just kidding man, whatever toots your flute as the Americans (I think) like to say.

MD II

Tamurlane26

07-12-05, 17:31

There are answers to prayers and there are answers from moi - now which one is which remains to be seen !!

If you have read some of my earlier works you will have realised that I too have had some amusing times in the nether regions of Jakarta - namely in Chinatown and Lokasari. Needless to say there are some choice establishments in the nice price range if one cares to look. However check well before you venture down there as many of the ladies would rather not go into that region of the city unless they are already there !! Needless to say there are places like the Astika - New Century and Pintu Besar which are in the price range you are looking for.

Whatever the case may be there are ways and there are ways to enjoy - its in the language or the wallet and certainly not in our youthful good looks that they are looking.

John Aldrich

07-12-05, 19:08

Smoothy,

I was in Ritz Carlton on July 4th. The bar from Marriott has moved to Ritz Carlton. I actually dropped into Marriot and the concierge there told me that the bar has moved. They only have a lounge now. The term bar for them means night club. The crowd there at Ritz Carlton is fairly upmarket though the pricing of liquor is pretty moderate compared to Mulia. Slightly lower than Mulia. No cover charge. I did manage to pick up a girl there by name Ika. Extremely good action in the bed. A semi - pro.But yes, not much of a scene at Ritz. I was there till 1 am before I found Ika. The crowd there was meagre and they are still having teething problems in terms of service. And with all that very very tight security checks, dont beleive its gonna be easy to find girls there. I paid Ika just about 400K for LT.

Maybe once the mall they are building comes up, it would become a happening place. But for now I dont beleive its gonna be happening except for some low key action. And when the Marriot was hosting the bar too, not much of action. It also has locational constraints.

Cheers

Maybe not all. I dont think hotels like the Mandarin Oriental, Four Seasons, Hilton or Dharmawangsa have anything going on.

The top 3 5 star hotel bar/discos are:
(all top 3 have live bands that play pop music)
1) Shangri La - BATS
2) Le Meridien - 30
3) Mulia - CJ's (best place in Jakarta on Sunday, too crowded on Fri and Sat)

Other popular ones are:

Crowne Plaza - Retro (techno - no live band)
Hotel Aryaduta - Tavern (pop)
Hotel Park Lane - Stix (salsa/pop)
JW Marriott - Unnamed bar (pop)
Hotel Borobadur - Musro (techno - no live band)
Grand Hyatt - Burgundy (jazz)

I hear the Ritz Carlton has one as well, but that it's not that great. I've never been there. I didn't even know they had completed that hotel.

John Aldrich

07-12-05, 19:21

Its safer than London, Chicago, New York or any place under the sun. And dont have to beleive these travel bans. I wish the Indo giovernment gives travel bans to UK ( though I am british myself) and US. Because its more dangerous travelling to that part of the world. And I am told that no one wants to travel in any american airlines in U S because of being bombed. And the worse thing to happen when I was in New york last month was that Leander Paes, the mixed doubles parnter of Martina Navrotilave and former doubles grand slam winner, being robbed at gun point in an atm of all his cash that the atm allowed to be drawn for the day and his gold ornaments he was wearing. And this happened in Manhattan at 6 30 pm.And here you are treated like a king. And look at the timings here in Jakarta when we monger. Its normally beyond 11 pm.

And just told my mom I am not coming to UK till I am convinced its safe. I know I am extremely safe here and well taken care of by all my new found friends, though sometimes, the friendhip is stuck after a session in the bed.

Dont ask for trouble and they will fall all over you to show you how to make love.

I've been to Thailand and Brazil and in the words of Huey Lewish need a new drug. I've always heard good things about Jakarta and thought what the heck. I've read back about a month and found a lot of odds and ends but no good FAQs or full trip reports. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Also, is it safe there now for Americans? Any special precaution? I go to Brazil all the time, but that is about the limit of how far on the dangerous side I like to walk.

Thanks,

Yada yada yada

Master Diver II

07-12-05, 21:19

Here I am writing a report at 2.30am in Jakarta - it can only be bad news. It's inevitable I suppose that sooner or later you find Indonesian women that may not be as delightful as usual and I struck paydirt tonight. I was in the starbucks near Sarinah and thought it might be nearer to go to 30Bar since it was on the way back to the hotel (sort of).

Initially I spotted a real sweetie who looked quite fresh to the place. Upon initial discussions, she revealed that she wanted Rp1,000,000 for the night - and quite inflexible with it. Maybe I should have stuck to it and brought her down to at least RP700,000 and lived to tell the tale, but no I sought alternatives.

I spotted a couple of likely looking ones (Dona & Tonya) which my gut instinct was advising against - for no obvious reason. It's a strange thing, but your gut is normally a good indicator, and you ignore it at your peril! They seemed friendly enough and it was agreed to go at Rp1,000,000 for the 2 overnight. I noticed though that the mention of Mulia hotel really screws up negotiations so in future, I will defer mentioning which hotel until negotiations are complete. Into the cab and off to circle K to buy some condoms.

On arriving back at the room, they wanted to first renegotiate to RP1,500,000 - WHAT, no way! Then they wanted to order drinks (Bacardi coke and gin and tonic); when the drinks came, they wanted food. I just said let's get it on first, food can come later. I regret not sending them back then and there with taxi money. Next they asked me to pay up front first - no way again - can there be any worse indicators? I just stated that I always stick to my deal and they said they had had trouble before - now I know why!

Finally the action started; if you like it rough, try these two; my dick felt like it was milked by a farm hand who doesn't know how and then stuck in a milking machine. At the same time the other girl was scratching me in what she thought was a sensual manner and dug fingernails into my nipples which I had to put a stop to. Meanwhile my sensitive nose detected a whiff of anchovies, and I was only licking her nipples. An exploratory finger later and I discovered the source. Whatever urges were left, left the building. My suggestion of a wash (yes, this is clearly not enough) was met with hostility. That was it. I called it quits. They demanded their money. I was told if I wanted to make love to them, I had to take it as it comes (scratches and all) - and I thought I was the paying customer. I said my piece and sent them on their way.

Now my query is, how would the more experienced Jakarta mongers handle this kind of a situation? What about the payment? I paid because I just dont need the hassle on my last night and now have to seek something before my evening flight tomorrow (today) to leave with pleasant memories. I'd be curious to hear your comments. Like I said, it's a rare piece of bad luck in Jakarta but I suppose nowhere is perfect.

MD II

Asian Rain

07-13-05, 10:23

On arriving back at the room, they wanted to first renegotiate to RP1,500,000 - WHAT, no way!

Meanwhile my sensitive nose detected a whiff of anchovies, and I was only licking her nipples. An exploratory finger later and I discovered the source. Whatever urges were left, left the building. My suggestion of a wash (yes, this is clearly not enough) was met with hostility. That was it. I called it quits. They demanded their money. I was told if I wanted to make love to them, I had to take it as it comes (scratches and all) - and I thought I was the paying customer. I said my piece and sent them on their way.

Now my query is, how would the more experienced Jakarta mongers handle this kind of a situation? What about the payment?

MD II

Sound like a pair of bloody predators. IMHO - A kick in the rear out the door with some taxi money. AR+

Smoothy

07-13-05, 13:33

Sound like a pair of bloody predators. IMHO - A kick in the rear out the door with some taxi money. AR+I agree. A friend of mine had that happen recently. He gave the girls 50,000 each and asked them to leave. They refused to leave so he threatened to call security. They told him to go ahead because they didn't think he had the guts since it would look bad on him. He called security and they immediately removed the girls no questions asked. He never heard anything from those girls again. (at least not yet)

Tamurlane26

07-13-05, 15:29

The tale of anchovies brings back none to fond a memory of Dede !! So glad to see the names were changed to Dona and Tonya. Needless to say on behalf of the Jakarta mongering organisation I shall be arriving in Jakarta tomorrow night to investigate the scene and put matters right !!

As a recipient of a more unpleasant gift from Jakarta than this I can only smile with wry amusement - you are right though - it is unusual to find them so aggressive in their approach - perhaps they were the ones our other good friend B69 has rejected in the past and therefore this was part of a more sinister anti WSG campaign !!

Milking like a farm hand - mind you Daisy always had a rough tongue !!

Knight 1001

07-13-05, 16:01

Master Diver II

I do sympathise with you pal as the same has happened to me on occasions. The only lesson I learnt out of that was "follow your gut feeling on the first opportunity" i.e. do not try to be gready in findind better and better because as the French say so wisely "le mieux est l'ennemi du bien" which translates to " better is the ennemy of good".
Other piece of advice based on experience: do not pay, except for taxi fare to be fair, if you've not had the best part of the deal. Better of luck next time.
Finally another tip: try to secure on lay at least per day by going to the Kartika, Melawai 6th floor, Medika, Bintang Mawar or Berlian, etc.; that's what I do: never disappointed ...totally.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Here I am writing a report at 2.30am in Jakarta - .......]

Ekspat

07-14-05, 08:59

A friend of mine had that happen recently. He gave the girls 50,000 each and asked them to leave.Hard to believe in Jakarta, I've never heard of such behaviour over there before and I have never faced such girls in whole Indonesia. Those attitude I've assumed to be in Thailand only. Now's the virus spread to Indonesia?

Too bad if true :-(

Cheers!
_________________________________________________

Sex is like air, it's unimportant unless you aren't getting any.

Bulai69

07-14-05, 13:01

Reading your story it's easy to say what you "should have done" but your actions simply demonstrate the relative weighting of data in your brain compared with impulses from your dick! We've all done it, I certainly have: especially as the night goes on and you think you might not get a better option.

The "right answer", in my view, is to threaten to call security and if needs be, do it. There is NO chance of them winning this confrontation: you have four ace cards: money, money, money and money. Another, "clever dick" answer, is always to have a back up plan: a girl you can call anytime or a place you can go where you know for sure you can score no matter what time it is: not always easy.

Another general point about two-somes is that you need to be EXTRA vigilant: hide the mini bar (if your at Meridien) and/or prevent access to it and of course put anything worth taking in the safe or locked suit case. Also watch your drinks because at lot of girls get "magic potions" from local witch doctors (bizarre but true) and those who do this often hunt in pairs. This is also common with banji (ladyboys) which I only mention because if you are a newcomer and pissed you could very easily finish up with one (by accident)

Billy Bishop

07-15-05, 00:53

Had a couple of experiences trying to rent a room recently that I thought might be of interest. Firstly, I couldn't really be bothered to call a bunch of places myself so I had an indonesian girlfriend of mine try to make the arrangements. She got some great quotes over the phone but when she arrived to make the reservations they wouldn't accept her money and said that, as a devout muslim, they wouldn't make reservations for my ladyfriend and I unless we were married and basically accused her of being a prostitute. Actually, she is a virgin so she was very disturbed.

Secondly, at some places they demanded to know if I was Black and proudly stated that they don't take reservations from Blacks. Luckily for me, I suppose, I'm not black.

Both of these experiences seem to contradict my other experiences that money rules everything in Jakarta. Anyways, I settled on a room a TakesMansion and I would be much obliged to hear what the mongering scene is in the near vicinity.

Cheers

Bulai69

07-15-05, 19:45

My only real experience of the issues arising from renting (low cost) rooms is in "boarding houses" where many girls stay and it's very common for them to be restricted to only having female visitors and certainly not having males staying overnight. Apart from the house rules, their neighbours would view them as prostitutes if they had male visitors, especially if they were bules. Although we enjoy the ease with which we can find girls who are very unconstrained, there is widespread "narrow mindedness". Although it might not be obvious, try and take note of the attitute of passers by when you are walking through a mall with a girl (in my case) under half your age. Like many human interactions in Indonesia, it's very subtle, but you can detect the disapproval. Many people view girls with bules as prostitutes.

There is open prejudice against black people in Jakarta so I'm not all suprised they would be excluded from renting rooms. Obviously everything has it's price but on the above issues it would be higher than you might think.

There is plenty of activity not far from Takes Mansion which I mentioned when I first reported on this place but it's all a taxi ride away: 24 hr MacD, Jaksa, right side of town for Kota, JJ's etc.

Smoothy

07-16-05, 06:03

I dont think racism has anything to do with them not renting rooms to blacks. I think it's due to the fact that there are alot of black drug dealers in Indonesia (mostly Nigerians). Nobody wants to get involved with those people so they just make a policy of avoiding blacks altogether.

Sabbath

07-16-05, 09:13

As much as I know, JJ's closed its doors. No customers at all anymore.

I loved that place..;-(

There is plenty of activity not far from Takes Mansion which I mentioned when I first reported on this place but it's all a taxi ride away: 24 hr MacD, Jaksa, right side of town for Kota, JJ's etc.[/QUOTE]

Menteng

07-16-05, 10:45

Guys,

I think we should be careful these days when planning to visit the joints in Kota. Milles, Crown and Madona have been raided shortly.Thanks to the new head of Jakarta police.

Those raids will take place untill the negociations for the new bribery prices are finished ;-)

Bulai69

07-16-05, 14:41

Sabbath, you could well be right, I haven't been there for a long time - since I got my credit card cloned there in fact!

Smoothy

07-16-05, 15:20

If JJ's is closed now, it's their own fault. They have always let those thugs hang out in front of the place and on the 2nd floor selling drugs and hassling the customers for money. I had a problem with one of them 5 years ago and asked the manager there to handle it. He didn't handle it at all so I told them I would not return and I haven't. It just was not a safe environment. It's too bad, I had some good times there. I used to go every single night. Back in the days when they used to show that cartoon Jack and the Beanstalk porno over and over on the big screen above the dance floor.

Dorman

07-17-05, 05:31

Hey PRO, you've just had your offensive posts zapped, oh dear seems you're not such a big swinging member of the in crowd as you thought hey?

Imagine spending years here building up a reputation as a cool dude only to see it all collapse over the course of one week through your own pathetic half literate attempts at showing what a toe-curlingly, cringeing suck up to the pseudo elites of Jakarta you really are. "I'm very popular with the Jakarta in crowd" oh God how snivelling!

-THE ABOVE ARE MY LAST WORDS ON THIS SUBJECT-

Hi Billy Bishop,

the beauty of Takes Mansion is not so much its proximity to any particular scenes, though Jaksa and Sarinah are nearby as well as Tanamour and JJ's but as Smoothy rightly points out these latter places are absolutely hopeless these days. The best part about Takes is its central location, it is only five minutes walk from Bank Indonesia Busway stop. For some reason there are alot of mongers who don't use this godsend of a transportation system but when you're trying to get down Jalan Sudirman on a wet Friday night in a taxi and you see the Big Orange sweeping past you every five minutes you'll soon see the benefits.

The Busway stops at PI mall, and near as dammit to the Meridien and Shangri La Hotels and ends up in Blok M. the journey that way is about twenty five minutes. Going the other direction you can be in Kota in about twenty minutes. Of course it stops running after 10.30pm so you'll need a taxi back.

Takes is a pretty relaxed sort of place if you've got the cash you should do as I did and rent the penthouse. You can sit out on a Wednesday and Friday afternoon watching the models in bikinis posing for the photographer from Lipstick magazine by the pool, all great fun. A couple of drawbacks are the rather dirty water and the limited TV channels and no broadband internet access.

Prosal

07-17-05, 21:09

Hey Dorman

Your acrimony seems to turn into some bizarre obsession. I didn't know that you cared that much. lol.

Seems you're one of the winner of the Board Award for RESIDENT HATER. But I imagine that after arriving at the very bottom of the P4P scale (about as far down as it's possible to slip) in Jakarta, you cheer up by despising the rest of the world. It's obvious that you hate other guys for what they are and for the opportunities they have you never will. Hatred, rancor, misery and ruined life show though your animosity.

As I told you, we have totally different mentalities and totally different tastes. If beside the upmarket spots and the upper-class women, I also fully appreciate the appeal of a sleazy atmosphere, like the fun kind of sleaze you find at Retro or CJs, I leave the desperation sleaze to guys like you, the truly desperate types, the losers who aren't in those Blok M gloomy joints because they want to be, but simply because they have nowhere else to go.

Anyway. I will be soon in Indonesia for one month in East Java (Malang). I'll totally skip Jakarta and even Surabaya, and this is surely above your comprehension.

Forget me.

Ekspat

07-18-05, 04:57

You're quite tough in the matter.

Cheers!

Mighty Spearsman

07-18-05, 18:32

I dont think racism has anything to do with them not renting rooms to blacks. I think it's due to the fact that there are a lot of black drug dealers in Indonesia (mostly Nigerians). Nobody wants to get involved with those people so they just make a policy of avoiding blacks altogether.
Based on my experience in Indonesia, Smoothy is 100% correct. Nigeria is the problem.

Master Diver II

07-19-05, 05:49

Many thanks to those of you who were kind enough to give advice on my small dilemma the other day. I shall bear your words in mind for future trips to Jakarta - hopefully not too far in the future:). I have to say I've learnt some interesting lessons in Jakarta and if it was possible, I'd enrole into a course on Late Night Indonesian Cultural Exchanges (eL NICE in short) - so that's what JAD advertises! Duh!

Anyway, let's stick to the topic and have less acrimony guys.

MD II

Dung Dang

07-19-05, 08:10

MD II,

Shit happens, but as we are talking about a business transaction, and are not ashamed to do what we do, utilizing the services of the security in any hotel is totally ok. They have seen what we do hundreds of times. Your hesitation is exactly the weakness these women use.

I myself after being educated by this forum am faithful to Kartika and Berlian. Btw. How about that contact in medan?

PM me next time you are planning to come to Jakarta.

Jkt After Dark 2

07-19-05, 09:08

Master Diver II,

Accidents happen mate. Upfront payment is payment SOP of escort agency. But, escort agencies normally have fixed price. They don't bargain. In your case, it was clear that you picked up "wanna be escort" type. And from your descriptions it was also clear that these girls are not escort materials.

Word of advice. For quality service provider, only deal with reputable agency in the future. I hope Jakarta will give you service recovery next time.

Take care.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Tamurlane26

07-19-05, 14:34

A tale with a twist from a friend of mine who frequents jakarta but does not frequent these pages !! Are there such people in this world

He has been pursuing a lady he met one night in "X" and through the course of the next month there was some fairly hefty sms traffic and a few phonecalls in between. Now this should and in fact did set him up for a nice evening on his recent return to Jakarta. She called him in the morning as he was boarding the flight said her boyfriend was no more and that she would meet him that night. That in itself should have set the alarm bells ringing as she had kept calling the man she was with in "X" alternatively her "suami" and her boyfriend but all the same did not seem too bothered about receiving his calls or sending him provocative sms.

That night he met her in Jalan Jaksa with a friend and with some other hangers on they went off to clubbing. Here the fun really started as she was a little bit tipsy by now and already promising a night of fun - and throughout the evening in the club her behaviour bordered on wild - to the extent he told me the Manager came over to observe one clinch as she had raised her dress to show her panties and promptly put his hands inside to see how comfortable she was with him !! This went on until closing time when he managed to ditch the friends and take the taxi ride back to the hotel reminding her that she had dared him to do a bbj in the taxi - which she promptly did - much he told me to his delight until he realised he was about to shoot his load and also saw that the next traffic light was near his hotel so he swiftly buckled up.

Well the matters heated up in the room and from a straight into the bbj he rotated her and gave her a nice licking into the bargain. The night ended well and truly satiated with lust and in the morning they picked up again as she woke him up with a bbj and then according to him performed some more acrobatics.

The story would have ended there as he left her to go to work and put some "taxi money" on the side. Throughout the day he wondered what had happened to her as there were no more calls or sms - needless to say he had arranged another party for the night so did not seem too concerned.

That night off he went with some friends to play pool and during the middle of the game with new lady in tow the phone went- not recognising the number he passed the phone to a friend to answer and promptly got the shock of his life.

On the other end was the "suami" threatening to come over and see him and do the proverbials on him.

Well our friend to cut a long story short decided to take the bull by the horns and rang the number back and there was a bule on the phone who said yes indeed he was the husband and how many times had our friend screwed his wife and how did he feel about it !! Not the usual phone call and more careless of him to phone using his local number and worse as the girl had given the numbers to him - whether or not this was under duress we shall never know.

So from one extreme to another - a night of madness according to him followed by retribution and threats the next - needless to say he reacted in a way we would all feel proud of were he a member of WSG. He took it on the chin and mea culpa and then promptly left the bar with the latest acquisition to have some fun and overcome his burden of guilt !

Next time someone says she has a "suami" be warned it might just be true and also switch your hp numbers around - prepaids are a wonderful thing and always remember when you sms from overseas your number could be used for the wrong reasons.

My friend is now luckily back in his home country - thanking a lucky escape and one poor husband who went so far as to exonerate my friend as "if you meet someone in "X" and she says she has a husband that means you can fuck her for 300K" - and that the wife would now be in deep shit for her actions.

names and locations withheld in case either party reads WSG

Tamurlane26

07-19-05, 14:38

A fond farewell to JJ's where my first experience in Jakarta took place and also the place where one night of dirty dancing saw me lose the lot in me trousers as a result of some well placed hand movements and a tongue or two - thin trousers were never to be recommended in that place !!

In recent years the clientele went down hill and it became more and more of a pushers joint - only saved by its boss being well protected and hence how they could still be partying when the nearby mosque was sounding its call to another journey.

Many of those who were found in there can now be found in CJ's and Batz so do not despair that the quality of Jakarta womanhood has also gone the same way

Master Diver II

07-21-05, 11:47

I've noticed that all it takes is posting a couple of pictures and you get plenty of people sending PMs asking for advice especially from those who have hardly posted any info if at all. There is such a wealth of information that it gets boring to keep repeating it but READ THE FORUM GUYS. We all like to help one another but you also have to help yourselves. I remember having a good read before asking too many questions and I'm certainly no expert by any stretch of the imagination.

Meanwhile can anyone tell me what has become of 1001 since the raid? I have been asked by a couple of friends about a similar alternative to this. It was the range of services that intrigued people I think - from the sushi off a naked girl to the shower visible from the karaoke room and stage in the corner for 'special' shows. Any suggestions? Thanks.

MD II

Billy Bishop

07-21-05, 20:06

Thanks to Bulai and Dorman for the helpful advice planning my trip. I'm going to be staying near Kota which is an area I'm not too familiar with. From the reports in the forum I'm very eager to check out Karita and Berlian, but I'd like to know what bars or clubs peole might recommend in the area because it sounds like the popular ones may have died down or run into trouble of late. My preference is for a set-up like stadium... has anyone been to Stadium lately? Is it relatively safe?

Thanks again,

BB

Brandon88

07-21-05, 22:49

Brandon88

07-21-05, 23:08

Sorry for my last post, with its typos. Now I recall Tanamour (sp?).

My question to all (especially to B69, who I think was the fan of 30-Bar), how is the scene there at 30-Bar after the renovation?

Master Diver II

07-22-05, 04:56

I was there last Tuesday night and it was much the same as before albeit the band wasn't too good - much better a couple of months back. Plenty to look at and to go for considering it was Tuesday. The bar is more or less the same only the entrance to the band area seems to have changed. Not very major renovations.

MD II

Jose Marcia

07-22-05, 16:49

several times, i wanted to go to jakarta, but my plans never materialized. this time, airfare (from new york city) was very expensive. ($1,300). i used to travel a lot as an on-board-courier but after 9/11 event, that stopped. i found out that one company just started and contacted them. http://www.jaltrans.com/index.htm after a lot of bargaining and convincing, they agreed to charge me $300 for a return trip to bangkok. (it used to be cheaper, sometimes even free and time to time upgrades to first class. not anymore, and not even frequent flyer miles).

friday: the company flew me by japan airline and i landed in bangkok on july 1st at 12:30 am. i had already booked a room in majestic suites at nana. took a taxi from the upper floor to the hotel and within 5 minutes of arrival to my room, i was out in the search of a girl. just walked around to playschool and was out in 15 minutes with a cutie (a 7). she was just ok in the bed and was out of my room in one hour. it was 2:00 am then, and i went out to eat. on the way to restaurant, met 2 girls at nana plaza parking lot (one 6 and the other one was 5). i took them for the dinner with me. they convinced me for a 3-some and i took them back to my room. they took turns and i was happy with their performance. however, as expected, they did not perform any lesbian acts. they left at 6 am. i could not sleep after that and went downstair to eat the breakfast. at 9 am, went out in the search of a travel agent. the first one offered a r/t ticket to jakarta for about $250 (lufthansa airline) and i grabbed the offer. i went back to my room but i could not sleep. left the room at noon time and off to the airport.

i arrived in jakarta at 7 pm. i had a list of 5 hotels and got the best deal for golden hotel (near menteng area, $30/day for 6 days). as usual, took a taxi from the arrival. the kamikaze driver tried his best, but still it took 45 minutes to reach to my hotel. once in the room, right away i called lena of escort indonesia at 08128439227. i already had some correspondence with viky thru email. viky was there too and i said hi to him on the phone. i asked them send me the prettiest 18 year old that they have but that she should not be younger than that. ($50 for 3 hours).

they kept their promise and within 45 minutes, an excellent girl knocked on my door. i opened the door and my jaws just dropped. she (a solid 9) was one the most beautiful girl, i was about to fuck. we talked for a while and that was a challenge. she could not understand a single word of english and i could not understand bhasha. she took a shower together and off to the bed. she started with a tongue bath and that was the first for me. sex was just ok. her breasts were 34 size and firm. her body was spotless. unfortunately, i could sleep for only 2 hours in the past 48 hours and i could not perform at par with her. i wanted to keep her for lt but she wanted to leave after 3 hours and that is what she did. (the escort indonesia charge $75 for 12 hours). she told me that “badan kapeh and other things” over and over again. she even wrote that for me, but i could not understand. later i found out that it meant that your body is very tired and you better sleep. she had an excellent attitude though.

before arranging my luggage, i called mr a. ( i got his # from the seniors on this borad. please do not ask me for his #. post you request on this board. if the jakarta seniors are comfortable enough with you, they will give it to you. also, he is not a pimp and does not charge his commission. although, he expects some taxi money $5-$10 and some drinks/food. also, he is a gay). mr a. discussed in detail that what type of girl i was looking for. he promised to drop by my hotel the following morning. after opening up my bag and arranging stuff, i tried to sleep, but was too tired to sleep. the hotel has a karioke place that occupies 2 floors. i went there to check it out and asked the papa to explain it all. he told me that it costs about $50 there and $200 to take a girl out. most of the girls were very tall, chinese, model kind, and in the category of 7-9. not my cup of tea!. i prefer the cute ones. due to this jet lag, after that, i could not sleep well though.

saturday: mr a. arrived promptly at 11 am, as promised. (he always called me from the hotel lobby to come up during my stay that if he could come up. that was a very nice thing to do). he told me that the best girl that could suit me was m. he called her, talked to her, and then let me talk to her. she could speak english well and was very nice on the phone. she told me that she is on her way to west java and that she will be back after 5 days. she promised to see me that day. mr. a tried to call other girls for me but was unsuccessful. i asked him to join me for lunch. we went to atrium plaza pizza hut. (about 1 mile away from my hotel and the taxi costs about $1). i bought a dictionary ($2) and got a very good exchange rate there. came to my room and tried to sleep but i was too tired to sleep. meanwhile, mr a. called me and gave me a phone number of the gal. “c”. i called her and she was very nice on the phone. she promised that she will come to my room at 7. i dozed off and woke up at 7:30. i called “c” and asked her that where she was. she said that she is getting late and she will be at my room at 8:30. she never arrived at that time. i called mr. a and told him the story. he replied within 5 minutes and told me that “c”’s boyfriend came over and she could not get out. oh well....my luck! i was tired and dozed off again. when i woke up, it was about 11 pm.

dragged my self out of bed and after a shower, took a taxi to go to menteng ii hotel (3 horses disco). taxi ride was like $2 and entrance was like $4, which included one soda/beer. i told them that i have no clue about them, and they should show me the place and introduce me to mama. mama was a very nice and funny older thin chinese lady. she introduce me a girl (t). “t” was 23 years old and, in looks, just 5. however, she could speak some english. on one hand, she told me that i was free to take anyone else. on the other hand she kept her hand on my dick all the time. i opened up the zipper twice but she closed it politely. my dick was hard for the next hour and a half while i was in the disco and my hands were roaming under her garments. i really liked her attitude and the free-style talk. i would hug mama time to time and would ask her to sit on my other lap and massage my dick. all of us drank, talked, laughed, and enjoyed each other’s company. i really like t’s and mama’s attitude. no money was ever discussed and then off to my hotel. in the taxi, i opened up my zipper again and she started a bj without hesitation. time just flew by and i thought we reached to my hotel within 2 minutes. at the hotel, in the elevator, i pulled her shirt up and sucked her nice and semi-firm breasts. once in the room, we ripped each others’ clothes off and took a shower together. while cleaning my body, she paid extensive effort on cleaning my behind. i know what she is up to. in the bed, she would give me bj and ar simultaneously and that lasted for a good 45 minutes. with the condom on, first i fucked her in various position and time to time playing and inserting finger in her asshole and then shoved my dick in her ass. looked like she loved that part the best. i finished with cim, which she did not swallow. i woke up at 6 and quietly went downstairs to have a breakfast. i came back up and slept for a while more. we had another a similar round later. she did not want to leave but i told her that i got a business to attend. i opened up her purse and put $35 there and she left.

sunday: as soon as she left, i got ready and off to atrium plaza. i was born in south asia and spent my teen age life eyeing the girls and smiling. that used to be a normal way to pick up “nice” girls. i found it similar in indonesia. while going down the accelerator, i eyed a girl who was going up. she turned away her face, smiled, and looked back at me. i motioned her discreetly to come down. she came down and we sat in the dunkin donuts. she was 18 years old - a 7 in the looks. we talked with the help of dictionary and i really liked this girl (b) very much. i asked her to go with me. the money was never discussed again. she was funny, a little shy, and very cute with big breasts. we took a taxi and came to my room. it was noon time.

within 5 minutes, the phone rang and “b” picked up the phone at the first ring. i knew that the call must be from mr. a, and did not mind her picking up the phone. it also confirmed that she is a possessive kind. she talked to mr. a for a while and then had me talk to him. mr. a said that he has called me a few times before and i was not in my room. he was at his friend’s apartment (near my hotel) with a girl and if i wanna take his offer, i should call him as soon as i am done with this girl. i apologized and told him that i already got a perfect girl. b was making all sorts of plans with me for the coming days. she took shower separately, and slipped under the sheets with the lights off. i noticed some marks on her body and that was a big turn off. she was not very active in the bed and i had to do most of the work. she was not very good in the bj department either. however, he breasts were firm and i came russian style. that is when i noticed some blood on the tip of condom and so did she. she kept on apologizing and told me that she was not having her periods until we had sex. she also told me that if i did not want to keep her, she would understand. i explained to her that i am on a vacation there and can’t keep her with me. i took her purse in front of her, put $20 in her purse without her knowing how much it was. i expected that she will give me a hard time leaving but she did not. she gave me her # and left.

immediately, i called mr a. and told him i was free. he came over with a girl within one hour. he took me on a side and told me that the girl, i talked to earlier, left for her work. however, he found another girl because he did not want to disappoint me. this girl “e” was a 27 years old, a black girl with a great body, kind of attractive, very friendly, and a “5" in looks with absolutely no attitude. i think i saw her photo posted on this board in the photo section, but she looks much better in person. we played cards for the next 2 hours and then i took them for dinner at atrium plaza ($13). while eating there, a very pretty girl was sitting a little far away eating with her girl friend. we were eyeing each other. man, she was good! “e” saw that and gave her a stare. the other girl was quick to turn her face away and never looked at me again. i asked e to let those 2 gals come with us and that all of us could drink and have a party. that would have been a first for me but “e” thought that i was kidding and did not agree. although, she did not play jealous. we came to my room and mr. a left.

it was only 9 pm but i was very tired. i was having hard time handling the jet lag and that much sexercise. we drank for a while, took shower together, and had a great sex with everything possible including ar. she simply loved sex and was good at tongue bathing me. i guess all indonesian girls are good at that. i was trying hard to cum and finally came half on her breasts and then she sucked me for the rest. i came on her face and in her mouth. i collapsed on the bed. she did not get out of bed. after 15 minutes, i put a towel on her body and on her face so that she could clean up the running mess. she told me that she was enjoying the cum on her face and on her body and i ruined that. oops! sorry!

in the morning, we repeated the session which was even more exciting. she was up for anything and loved sex. later, she told me that she really likes me, and would stay with me just for fun. she had already told me that she had a few lesbian encounters and she loved that. i explained to her that if i was there for fun, and won’t repeat with any one. however, if she brings a 18-19 year old girl who is willing to have all-out fun, she should call me. (btw, she never called me). i put $40 in her purse and she left.

monday: i was very tired but, somehow, i wanted to get out. i left my room right then for atrium plaza to do more shopping, making international phone calls, and get some $ exchanged. it was almost 11 am by then. while going up and down the accelerator i was eyeing the gals and got a response from a gal in hiljab. she was with 2 boys and one gal. i came down and mistook another gal for her. i followed her to the mc. donald and got no real response. still i kept on coming on her. after talking to me a little, she excused herself. i saw her talking to the security guard and pointing towards me. realizing my mistake, escaped the place, took a taxi, and came to my room.

called lena of escort indonesia and within one hour an excellent cute 18 year old was knocking on my door. she looked younger than 18. i asked to see her id, and she sure was 18. i just loved to talk to her and look at her. such a young girl, here in the us, won’t even talk to me for any price. she must be a solid 8.5, though very inexperienced in sex. i enjoyed teaching her a few things, but she was not a good student. may be i am not a good teacher! her pussy had only a few hair and her milky body was spotless. her breasts were firm and she kept herself well groomed. i asked her to stay for the next 24 hours, and that i can pay any amount but she gave me some bs. sex was nothing to write home about. she tried hard to please me but i could not cum, and she left in 3 hours. i fell asleep right then. (btw, escort indonesia do not post photos of most of their girls on their site. anyone can join their yahoo group).

i slept hardly for half an hour and the phone rang. it was mr. a as expected. he told me that the girl who he wanted to bring to me the day before is there with him. she got a day off and if i am interested, he could bring her to me. i agreed and, surprisingly, withing half hour they were knocking on my door. mr. a had a male friend with him too who was also a gay.

this girl was pretty, in her early twenties, a “6.5" in looks, and with nice set of breasts. her name was “i” and she looked like a thai friend of mine who lives in bangkok. she could speak enough english too. she told me that she was an accountant in a coffee chain. however, she started showing an attitude from the very beginning. within 5 minutes of her arrival, she told me that she is a “strong woman”. she said, “trust me! if i say no, then it means no. i know what i want and i always get it”. i was like what is this! i wanted to brush off her comments and tried to be friendly but she kept on getting worse in her attitude. after one hour of talks, i told them that i wanna buy some batteries for my digital camera and we should leave. i was planning to tell mr. a that i do not want her. but then, a thought struck my mind. “i” reminded me of a colombian girl friend of mine (almost 2 decades ago). she was a very strong girl and, we always had a mental war that lasted for 3 years. i felt like giving and receive pain. (never done it before). i was up for that challenge and decided to break this girl down.

i changed my attitude and told her that she was the most beautiful girl, i ever met and i would like to take her shopping. i bought her jeans and t-shirt ($30). then, i took them to an indian restaurant. i ordered some wine and spent $109 there on four of us. this girl “i” still kept on showing attitude and hour by hour, the mental war was going to another level. i just wanted to see her limits. i started loving the game. then, we went to hard rock café where i spent about $70. i drank alcohol only once but bought her 4 drink. “i” and i left the hrc at 1 am for my hotel. she was not giving up on this mental war even then, and neither was i. in the taxi, she told me that her rent is due the next morning and that this is the first time she is ever going with someone for money.

once in my room, she asked me that if i would give her $170 to help her out for the rent. i said that i can do that and i would not. i told her that i spent money on her shopping, food, and drink and i won’t give her any money for sex. then she came down to $100 and asked me in a firm voice, “tell me right now if you would give me $100 or i am leaving”. i told her that i would think about that the next morning. she kept on repeating forcefully to get a reply right then. i asked her to leave. now she tried to make me calm but i won’t budge. it was time to get even! she tried to convince me for half an hour and then she broke. she was crying loud for the next 45 minutes non-stop. she was telling me all sort of stories and crying. (not of sick buffalo, but of dead buffalo). she told me that she would love to jump from my room window (12th. floor) and if i throw here out, she would jump in front of any vehicle right across the hotel. finally she told me that i could do anything to her and that i just ask her and she will do it. i told her that it was her attitude and i won’t pay her even a single rupiah and that if she wanted to stay there for free, then she could. she agreed for free while crying, took off her clothes, laid down under the bed sheet, and was snoring within one minute. i was like wtf. i tried to sleep, but i could not. after an hour (it was 4am), i just thought about [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her. i started moving my hands on her body but, surprisingly, she started responding equally. instead of me [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her, she was [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) me. she was so wet from the very beginning she fucked me like there was no tomorrow. it was probably the roughest sex of my life. i pinned both of hands and face down under my legs and arms, and forced her to drink most of my cum thru her nose, but she did not resist that either. i think she is a sadist and sure loves to give/receive pain. somehow, i still have some feelings for her! i am not sure, why! what a gal though!

it was getting bright by then, and i had enough trouble with her. i gave her $100 and asked her to leave. now, she refused to leave. i told her that she better leave before i change my mind and take my money back. she got the drift and left. (surprisingly, she called me three times thereafter. she would just say that “this is me” and if she could come over again. she even told me not to worry about money. she said that has already paid her rent and does not need any more money. each time, i told her that how come she thinks that i would invite her to go out after all that happened. she would just brush off that comment, would apologize each time, and would promise to make up for whatever happened. each time i told her the same. i told her that i have her # and would think about her offer. i never called her again though.) later that day, i told mr. a about her asking for a million rupees, and he got real mad. he told me that he did not know her. she was his friend’s friend. he said that i should have called the security guards and had her thrown out. he said that he will give her to “s” who is coming in august from uk, and that he is great in fixing those kinds. good luck “s”! lol. i am posting her photo. if anyone is up for a challenge, please go ahead and be my guest! don’t forget to let me know what happened.

tuesday: i slept for a few hours. as soon i woke up, i took a cab and off to the atrium mall. i was buying some jewelry and tried to hit on this sales girl. i could only yield her phone #. as i was going down, i got eyed by this cute girl with no bags in her hands. i went to her and started chatting. she did not know a single word of english. i thought about using the dictionary but, up close, found her not that good looking. i took her # and told her that since i am going to work right then, i will call her later. (in my opinion, there are 5-20 visible girls available in the atrium mall at any given time ready to get picked. most likely, each one comes once when she needs money and, most of the times, she leaves without finding anyone. there must also be at least 50 invisible girls, either working in the mall or coming to have fun, just wanting to get picked by the right man. i also found out that, in jakarta, if a man is good looking, white, and young, money is not that important. sadly, i am not! most gals also confirmed that too. girls are everywhere. just talk to anyone and, if she likes you, most likely you will end up bringing her to the bed in no time. i wish i had more time or the u.s.a was like that!)

i went to the kfc in the mall to eat. i tried on various girls but none responded me back with a smile. just then, 3 gals walked in. i did not get any response from them either. after buying some meal, they came and sat down on the table next to me that is when i realized that they were on the game. i started talking to them. all of them knew some english and as soon as they knew that i was from nyc, they were very much interested in me. i told them that i come to jakarta often, but can not speak bhasha. i am willing to pay them if they are willing to teach me the language. also, i told them that i am a doctor (ob/gyn) and my services are free for them. i asked all of them to go to my room but they declined. they asked me to pick only one teacher! i picked the one who was the hottest (a “6"). we parted and came to my room. she was 19, a shy type, and wanted a separate shower. once under the sheets, she wanted the room to be as dark as possible. after a while i realized that her pussy stinks. i turned on the lights, gave her $20, and politely told her that she better use this money to go see a doctor. she left with some tears! i guess i was better off not learning bhasha from her, and better find someone else!

i was pissed, and very tired. made the room dark again and slept right away. mr a. called later and offered another girl. i told him that i was too tired and need a break. multi-vitamin, healthy food, and viagara took me so far, but my body was not with me anymore. i slept all day and woke up at 10 pm. i was feeling kid of energetic. immediately, i got ready and took a cab to kinara restaurant. this is located in kemang area, which is far away from where i was staying. it was ladies night there, but the place was deserted. i ate there and took a cab to de leilah. most of gals were arabs. i met this indo gal “n” there. it was a beautiful name and, i told her that, in arabic, it meant “light”. she did not know that before. she was 22 years old with a nice curvy body, cute, and very pretty. (almost a “6.5").

later she told me that her real name is “s” and she keeps the other name because of the arab clienteles. she was working there for one year. she also told me that she had a 10 months old daughter. i got kind of disappointed but, since she had a nice attitude and knew english well, i asked her to go to my hotel and that we would drink there. it was almost 3 am and on the way to my hotel, the police stopped us at a road block to check our i.ds. i only had my nyc driving license that i handed over to him, but he wanted my passport. since the cop could not speak any english, he asked other officer to come over and deal with me. this cop was much younger and knew perfect english. i told him that i am a cop from nyc, gave him my business card, and invited him back to my hotel for a drink. he declined and i gave him $5. he asked me for another similar bill with a smile. i gave him one more bill and he let us go with an apology.

we came back to our room. since, she wanted to drink whiskey, i took her to this karioke place that was 3 floors down. none of us could sing. we drank there and talked for over an hour while kissing and hugging. she was uncomfortable with me talking to papa who i met the very first day because he was a gay and he was showing his interest in me too. came back to my room and took our showers separately (not my idea of fun). she was a big disappointment. she did not give me a tongue bath nor a bj. she was fun to be with so i did not let my mood go sour. her pussy was dry like the nevada desert. i tired to shove my finger in her ass but she responded with a big no no. in 5 minutes, i pretended to cum in her pussy with condom on and we just slept. we slept for a few hours and, when i woke up, i saw here ready to leave. i asked for her purse and shoved $25. she did not check and left.

wednesday: after a few hours of sleep, i was restless again. i got up and off to atrium mall. while making a phone call, i saw a girl in the next booth eying me. i talked to her took her to a restaurant in the mall. her name was “s”, a 20 year old, petite, with an average body. she was a “5". she did not know much english and we were talking with the help of the dictionary. she was quick in asking the right questions and sizing me up. i asked to go to my room and there we could talk more. we took a cab and back in the room, she was affectionate. she loved to kiss a lot and so did i.. she had some marks on her body though and i did not like that. we showered together and she gave me a tongue bath with a very nice bj. we had a half way decent sex and i finished with cim. she did not mind that at all. she was more experienced than i thought. she went to the bathroom for a shower and that is when i got a phone call from mr. a. he reminded me to call “m” who i had called on saturday. at that time, she was leaving for her home town. since this was my last night in jakarta and mr. a told me so much about her and that she was a perfect match, i decided to call her. meanwhile, “m” was back from the shower. i put $30 in her purse and told her that i had to go do a business meeting. she wanted to hang around for a while more but i asked her to hurry up and she left.

immediately i called “m”. she was at the bus station and just arrived. she told me that she will call me back at 4. she did not call me back so, i called her at 4:30. she said that she will be there any minute. in 5 minutes, i got a knock on my door. it was mr. a along with his friend and 3 gals. “m” was 27 years old and just a “5" but her room mates, two sisters 26 and 21, were real hot. they were like “6.5" and “8.5". i wanted to go with younger sister but she had this attitude which was telling me that she did not like me. all 5 of us left in a taxi for dinner. i told them that since i am a muslim and can marry up to 4, i wanna marry all 3 of them. i asked them to go to mosque istiqlal instead (the mosque was right in front of my room window) and let us get married but they declined. oh well...at least i tried!

we ate dinner at pizza hut. i felt kind of weird there. i was with 3 gals, 2 of them were not impressed by me, and then mr. a. he were hitting on this dutch guy and the dutch guy felt offended. after dinner, we went to cj’s at mulia hotel. it was a nice disco with lots of upscale gals. as soon as we entered the disco, young chinese indonesian stormed on the sisters. they were rejected one after the other, still men were coming to those girls as if they were the only girls left in jakarta. “m” wanted to be with me, so she refused others. however, the older sister got connected with a british older guy (45), and the younger sister got connected with a young chinese indo handsome man (27). i saw a black american who looked sad because even average looking girls were refusing him. jakartan girls, in my opinion, have attitude problem big time.

mr. a used to work there before, so most of the workers knew him. anyhow, all 8 of us were talking like old friends and were dancing and having fun. i felt kind of jealous about younger sister, but both sisters would come to me time to time and would dance with me and brush their asses and breasts on me. i danced some lambada with both sisters too. the older sister parted after one hour. after another hour, “m” and i decided to leave younger sister alone, and left for my hotel. after that, “m” and i developed very nice friendship. she was more like a friend than a girl for hire. her photos are on this site in the photo section as “nice girl posted by bulai69 dated 7-3-05”. she sure was nice - very nice to me.

when i met her, she did not look as cute as in those photos which was disappointing at first. however, i had a nice gfe on my last night in jakarta. she was wet all along and we made love. also, she loved to give me a massage and that lasted for over an hour. i asked her several times to stop, but she wanted to give me more and more. i thought she had a professional massage training, but she told me that she did not. she told me that she sleeps with sisters on the same bed, whereas the other roommate sleeps on the floor. time-to-time she sees a dream having light sex with other girls, but she never had a courage to have sex with any girl. she admitted to play with other roommates’ breasts on occasion. i asked her that i can arrange that by calling indonesia escort right then, but she told me that she does not have a courage to do so. we slept for a couple of hours and the had another passionate round. later i found out that she gave a hickie on my chest that would last 10 days to disappear.

she invited me to come with her to her home to get a professional massage from her aunt (strangely enough, this aunt was the real mother of those sisters that i was drooling at, the last night). i had little time left in my flight but decided to go with her. she took me to her aunt’s home. the aunt was busy with another woman. therefore, she took me to her home that was a few houses apart. i had to take off shoes at the entrance and was asked to sit on the floor of her living room. there were not sofa there. it was just bare lanonium floor. the sisters were not there (waiting for m to come to some place else and go to some other town), but her other roommate was there. she was a thin chinese (a “6"). (i would strongly suggest those seniors who gave me mr. a as a contact to fuck m’s roommates. all 3 of them, if possible. if you are really handsome and young, ask for the younger sister. you would love her. if she liked you - you will find her very warm, otherwise as cold as antarctica). meanwhile the roommate had their only bed made. they asked me to move to the bedroom. i could tell that they were embarrassed.

after 15 minutes, “m” took me to her aunt’s house. her aunt asked me to take off all my clothes but i felt uncomfortable. they gave me something to wear and aunt started this painful muscle massage. it was very different than that of thailand. it was more like muscular massage. time to time, m will also massage me. she was there all the times to translate. the massage was very professional though and lasted for an hour. in the end, m asked me to give her $3. i asked this aunt to give me 6 bottles of that strange oil and gave her $20. i was getting nervous by now thinking of all that traffic, but m told me not to worry about. she got us a rikshaw to block m, where we got on the express bus. we got off near my hotel and took a cab to the hotel. at this time, i thought that m will leave but she just wanted to be with me and, frankly speaking, so did i. she told me a lot about this man “boy friend” who lives in san diego. she gave all sorts of her personal details and i think she was not lying. i could only spare half an hour in my room. she helped me pack and got on the taxi with me. i knew that her roommates were calling her over and over again since 11 am, but m wanted to spend a little more time with me. i asked m not to go to the airport with me and dropped her at the express bus station. made to the airport exactly on time.

arrived in bangkok at 11 pm and reached majestic suites again. got out of my right away and grabbed a very cute and young girl from nana disco. i was in and out of the disco within 5 minutes. i was very tired and was not in a mood of wasting time. took her for a dinner with me and off to my room. sex with her was just ok. she wanted to leave right after sex and that was perfect for me. slept for the next 10 hours and recovered much needed energy for the upcoming long flight. it was 1 pm, and i had 3 hours to spare. perfect time to go to eden club. i have been there a few times before, and know the ropes. mark was not there as usual. there were about 40 girls available at that time. i took one girl from each side and all 3 of us walked to my room. the anal gal was “5" and the other one was a “5.5". they were the most pretty gals available in the club at that time. those who know about this club, know that any possible sex act is included in the fix price and if the guy is not satisfied for any reason, money back is guaranteed with no questions asked. in the past, i was never ever dissatisfied with their gals and this time was the same. both girls came with dildos. we performed all sorts of hardcore vaginal and anal plays along with lesbian acts and did what was expected. the only thing that i always request from eden gals are, to put on a condom while doing a bj on me. they were very accommodating as usual. i could not cum the second time. about 15 (yes, fifteen - and that is normal number) condoms later, they left. (bangkok sexperts know what i am talking about). the total cost was $110. as soon as they left, i picked up my luggage and started my long journey towards new york and beyond.

i had a wonderful time on this successful trip. it was impossible to have it as successful as it was, unless i got advantage of tons of the reports on this board and the special help from seniors of this board. i would like to thank them very much. if any of you ever wants to travel to brazil, cuba, colombia, or dr, please let me know. i wish i knew bhasha and could have enjoyed even more. girls are everywhere! just go out and talk to them. as far as i am concerned, most likely, i will not go back to jakarta again due to the girls’ attitude (due to my non-exotic looks), and the lack of spare time on my end. however that will be an advantage for me if i travel to south/central america.

Master Diver II

07-23-05, 04:19

I wish I knew Bhasha and could have enjoyed even more. Girls are everywhere! Just go out and talk to them. As far as I am concerned, most likely, I will not go back to Jakarta again due to the girls’ attitude (due to my non-exotic looks), and the lack of spare time on my end. However that will be an advantage for me if I travel to South/Central America.

Hmmmmm, It's unfortunate you were the recipient of this atitude, however as they say shit happens. It happened to me last trip but it is very unrepresentative of Jakarta - think of how all those girls didn't query how much you were giving them. It's true thought hat a bit of Bahasa helps but having said that some of the girls would shy away from locals preferring foreigners. One girl told me imagine for example if I was to find out later we were related somehow - but that's another story. However, if you help keep people away from Jakarta (our heavenly playground) I and probably many other members here would be most grateful - by the way can someone PM me Mr A's contact for my future reference. Thank you.

I also realise that I have been remiss about some of the details of my last trip and have neglected to post photos of the friendly girl, Heny, I met in CJs. More on that later.

In closing, I'd like to say that I apreciated your candid report and I stand amazed at your diligent verbosity. That must have been no small effort taken to compose the essay. For effort ,on and off the page, I have to award you with a solid 8.5/10 :D.

MD II

Jaimito Cartero

07-23-05, 09:19

Very nice report, JM.

I tend to drop the ones with attitude real quick. There are just too many women there to go through all the "conquest" stuff. "A" was very helpful when I was in JL Jaksa, and I could never get him to take any money from me.

You seemed to do real well in Atrium Mall. I stayed next to it on my first trip, but was afraid of offending the local women, and never got approached. I know much more now, so would probably have a lot more fun there. I think I bought the same $2 dictionary you did. Little red cover, right?

Jose Marcia

07-23-05, 12:13

MD II & JC and to all of those who PMed me:

Thanks for the encouragement. I usually don't post reports. However, before leaving for Jakarta, I got so much help for you folks that I decided to take time and write my experience in detail. That was the least I could do to say "Thanks" to all of you. If any of you ever plan to go to Cental/South America, just let know. Who knows, I may plan to go at the same time.

MD II: I am upset on your grading. Only 8.5! Please regrade me considering that English is my 2nd. language. Just kidding! However, I got lots of info from your reports. You sure are a sexpert of Jakarta and know how to pick the best of the best. May be, some day you could teach me a few of your own tricks.

JC: Yes! The same dictionary with a red cover! In any foreign country, I carry digital camera and pocket dictionary in each of my Jean's front pockets. You never know when you may need them!

Dorman

07-23-05, 14:02

I enjoyed your report Jose, it's good to read a warts and all account of the hobby in Jakarta, whilst the scene is fantastic there is no doubt that some times you hit a dud too. You handled the various girls well and seemed to know when the hardass attitude is appropriate and when a bit of give and take is the best ploy. I was fascinated by your mind game with "I". I have to admit I wouldn't have had the patience with her that you had and I'd have put my toe to her arse at the door long before you did but it was great to see how you won and how rewarding this victory must have been.

On a somewhat different topic I had to go to a wedding on Friday. A cousin of the missus was getting wed to some bule she met in Tugu Puluh, discretion prevented me asking the groom how much he paid his bride the first time they met. My main concern was how to get through ten hours in the sticky heat at a wedding where the strongest beverage available was sweet black tea not like weddings back in the oul' country I can tell you.

Anyway after making our apologies and slipping away we decided to hit the town, a bit of a change from my usual Friday night down the Blok. We checked out the bars in the hotels around Bunderan HI, yawnsville all round, a couple of hotties but not much fun. Well it turns out the other half knew about a new club opening up in Thamrin. It's located just above Amigos, and is called 'Rain' lounge, I have to say it doesn't look too bad. The place had a full house and a friendly atmosphere, mainly locals but a smattering of bule. There were quite a few little cuties, probably not pro's but a few seemed to be entusiastic amateurs.

I'd be interested if anyone knows any thing more about this place, among the usual floral tributes outside there wishing "selamat dan sucess" one was from from '1001', I wonder if these places are connected and whether given the current difficulties going on up at Kota that this is a new scene opening up. Regulars with more knowledge of this side of the town might want to keep us informed.

Crazy4Thai

07-24-05, 08:59

It's been 5 months since I participated when this was known as the WSG.org. I found it today by accident while trying to find info on JKT as I am here now, day 3, for the 1st time. Never really knew where the forum went to. So GLAD to find it, as this is where the real and current info is.

I'm actually having a bit of a hard time figuring this scene out but having just spent 2 hours RTFF, I expect to change all that. Not that I've struck out, it has just been a little slow, and none of the stunners that I'd hoped for. I have 4 nights left.

I'm staying at the Sparks Hotel for $40 US per night right acrossed from Lokasari Plaza. The freelancers I've met are all too young. 2 are gorgeous, dammit. I did 1 st at Country Roads bar near car park. 200k with 20 yo Nikki. Looks 6, attitude 6, service 4. I'd sure like to find a GFE for a day or 2 of catching up in my hotel. I'm taking a break from 60 days in Thailand to FINALLY check out Jakarta.

Thanks to everyone who puts the real info up on this board.

C4T

p.s. Jose - in my book you get a 10 - that's a whopping big report! It would really be nice to have some experienced guidance in this new locale.

Ekspat

07-25-05, 06:16

The bar is more or less the same only the entrance to the band area seems to have changed. Not very major renovations.To be honest, if I wouldn't have known about the renovation, I wouldn't have realized it. Saw almost no change, either there isn't any or I had to much beers in BATS before.

Cheers!
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Sex is like air, it's unimportant unless you aren't getting any

Tamurlane26

07-25-05, 15:09

a wry smile crossed my lips on reading your tales kind sir - the photo is none other than - but this time she said she worked in bank permata !!

she is possessive to say the least as i met her in after hours where we were playing pool and waiting for the floods to subside the other week. had booked her and another girl imel for a friend from london. however "i" had the skill to arrive first and did not disappoint - luckily for me there was no chemistry with the other person so i was left to have her ! mind you when imel appeared and decided to touch my butt as i played a deft corner pocket she went ballistic and stormed off into the toilets where she had to be persuaded that it was all in good fun.

by the time we reached the hotel she was jealous as hell - i had to meet a friend in starbucks and took a shine to a waitress and was generally allowing the eyes to wander and was reprimanded at least twice and requested to move seats.

the speed at which she ripped off my clothes when we made it into the room was a joy to behold as was the wetness of her clit. she obviously does not need much warming up. she rocked and heaved and went the whole nine yards.

the damage for the occassion 400k rph - no shopping no dinner and a few drinks ! so perhaps she needed to make up for lost time when you arrived ! anyway a follow up was she sms me last night asking for help with her medicine as she had no money and no friends in jakarta. so to that i would add please go for it to all who might have an accquired taste for strong women !!

forgive the poor quality but as you can see it is clearly one and the same ! for those who read my earlier post on my friend and the back of the cab i have it on good authority that said lady is back on the prowl - highly recommended but rather explosive and dont give out a phone number or leave any trace in case the husband or boyfriend is for real !!

Jose Marcia

07-25-05, 15:22

Hi chalky,

What a small world! That is her.

lol @ worked in a Bank. She has an indo chineese rich man who is her boy friend. She sure is possessive.

[QUOTE=Chalky26]A wry smile crossed my lips on reading your tales kind sir - the photo is none other than - but this time she said she worked in Bank Permata !!

Bulai69

07-25-05, 17:11

Brandon88 - after "renovation" its the same as before! Decor in the snooker area is better but no noticable difference elsewhere. The main difference is that the "up" escalator is now "down" (why?!) which still catches me out. I should say I'm not that much of a fan of 30, it's just that I always stay in Meridien so it's convenient especially on the first night after a long trip. You can always find somebody in there though quality varies.

Brandon88

07-26-05, 00:14

Thanks for the responses guys.

Boy! I just read Jose's write-up and I'm exhausted! That's more sex in week then I could manage. Sometimes a drink and a good movie on HBO are better for me.
:)

Is anyone in town the week of August 8th? I expect to swinging through for a visit.

Last time in town, a few co-workers and I tried to fight the rainy-night traffic to try a new restaurant, to no avail. Since we made it only 50 yards out of Mid Plaza in 20 mins, we decided to bite the bullet and eat at BATS. I'm no fan of food there, as it just never tastes good (though I've never tried the 600k rp steak). But what the heck.
As we were finishing up our meal, it was fun to watch the gradual metamorphasis from low-key eatery to loud *****house. My friend, who is from Indo, was eyeing up a girl quite steadily. He had to go back home to his wife, but I told him I'd stay behind for awhile. Moving to the back bar to get a closer look (another bule had already latched on to her, but what the hell), I saw in the gloom that she was indeed fairly close to being a stunner, but the tattoos, attitude, etc gave off the impression of trouble. Maybe she'd behave and maybe she'd become a nightmare back in the hotel. I'm just not willing to open myself up to problems when there are so many choices.
Now, to the point... as I was sizing her up, her friend hiding in the shadows makes eye-contact, and boy was I happy. This one was more attractive then the first.
So to make a long story short, "Vita" was one of the most pleasant GF experiences I've had yet. I highly recommend her. If I can, I'll post a pic next time I see her.

Now that said, wouldn't it make more sense for these girls to throw a change of clothes in their bag? It's nice to have a stunner in a 4-inch skirt and 6-inch heels sashay up to your room in the middle of the night, but when they leave in the morning in the same "f-me outfit" through a lobby filled with businessmen and women, it's pretty uncomfortable. Sometimes I'm asked to walk them down. No way! Imagine being stuck escorting a girl down the elevator and your boss gets on 2 floors down? Panic mode.

KL Guy

07-26-05, 10:09

Hi Crazy4Thai,

Due to in a change of traveling plans I too plan to stay in Sparks. Can you perhaps give us some info on the hotel considering that its quite new & i cant get any credible info on it?

Thanks!

KL Guy but Jakarta Lover

I'm staying at the Sparks Hotel for $40 US per night right acrossed from Lokasari Plaza. C4T

XXL

07-26-05, 19:07

Looks good from the outside, superb location near the action but ... no taxi queue waiting outside.

It's all very well for them to tell you that the hotel staff can fetch a taxi for you at any time, in reality it will often mean having to wait and having to board dodgy taxis, not to mention having to tip the poor soul who'll go out into the smoke-filled Mangga Besar to wave in a cab for you.

Speaking for myself, I don't patronize any hotel in JKT unless it has at least its own Blue Birds on stand-by.

Ekspat

07-27-05, 09:44

Hi mates,

I told yesterday to some bro, maybe it's useful for some of you.

Getting downtown JKT, I was told you can take a bus to Gambir, but for me too time-cosuming even if it's cheap. And most likely you'll have to take a cab from there anyway. So I never tried it.

Airport taxi is often relatively expensive.

Usually I go upstairs to the departure level, there to the most left side of the hall and jump into a Bluebird. They are cruising there and looking for customer to avoid going back to town empty. Since they aren't allowed to take customers there, it has to be quick and far away from any security guy.

If there is any security guy making trouble, just walk down the road a bit further on.

Not recommended with huge amount of luggage, but since I come just for weekends only with one bag, I do it always that way. Hope it helps.

Cheers!
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Sex is like air. It's unimportant unless you aren't getting any.

Crazy4Thai

07-27-05, 14:27

Hi KL Guy,

Sparks is great value at $40. It's only 5 months old, not so big, What I think of as a botique hotel. Friendly staff, good English skills. The rooms are well designed, safe in the room, clean, not huge but not small. They knew enough to not put carpeting in the rooms. has a pool but I didn't use it.

I'm having spotty luck on the action tho. I did Blok M last night, My Bar, and pulled a hardened pro but didn't know it until we're in the room. I've had mixed results here and I'm way more used to Thailand. I've not had anything that resembles a GFE here. But I've done ok. I can't help but wonder if I might have liked S. JKT better as a place to stay. I guess I'll try that next time and see.

Have fun,

C4T

Hi Crazy4Thai,

Due to in a change of traveling plans I too plan to stay in Sparks. Can you perhaps give us some info on the hotel considering that its quite new & i cant get any credible info on it?

Thanks!

KL Guy but Jakarta Lover

Brandon88

07-27-05, 21:59

Crazy4thai, that's odd, I never picked up anyone from MyBar that turned out to be less then a GFE. I've actually shied away from there for quite some time because one would pounce on me as soon as I walked it, expecting to continue the 'relationship'. Sometimes I don't want to bother because they always want to live in my hotel for days. Really nice girls though.
Maybe I've just been lucky.

KL Guy

07-28-05, 12:17

Hi Crazy4Thai,

Just called my friend Mr A from Jakarta & he said that there are too many police checks conducted around that area thus I have to choose another more 'girl friendly' area to avoid the hassle of being harrased unnecessarily by the cops! But thanks for the advice & for those still bent on staying there check out www.wotif.com which has a special Visa Promotion rate of USD35 thanks to one of those who PM me directly!

As for the pro that you took back, well generally the girls in Jakarta that I've meet are OK but you do get your oddballs once in a while like my USD100 being stolen but I have no proof thus could not or rather did not want to pursue it furhur! But generally the girls are quite GFE and thats the reason like a few sinors here have given hope on Thailand & now concentratin on jakarta.

Have confirmed my USD100 air fare from KL to Jak via KLM online and will be arriving on 3rd August, anyone care to join? Chalky heard you'll be there!

Warm regards,

KL Guy

;)

Mighty Spearsman

07-28-05, 17:31

Thanks for the responses guys.

Boy! I just read Jose's write-up and I'm exhausted!

Wouldn't it make sense for these girls to throw a change of clothes in their bag? It's nice to have a stunner in a 4-inch skirt and 6-inch heels sashay up to your room in the middle of the night, but when they leave in the morning in the same "f-me outfit" through a lobby filled with businessmen and women, it's pretty uncomfortable. Sometimes I'm asked to walk them down. No way! Imagine being stuck escorting a girl down the elevator and your boss gets on 2 floors down? Panic mode.
First, I agree with Brandon - thanks to Jose Marcia for a great report - you da man!

Here's a partial solution to the dilemma of having the girl walk out of the hotel at 9 a.m. in her "f-me outfit." I usually carry a couple of inexpensive, brand-new t-shirts with me in my baggage, in my size which is XL. On at least three occasions that I can think of, I've given a t-shirt to the girl to wear in the morning when she leaves. That doesn't address the issue of the short skirt and stiletto heels, but it's better than nothing. For the more petite girls, an XL t-shirt usually comes down to her knees anyway.

Just don't make the mistake that I made once. I gave a t-shirt to a young lady who was hot and around 19 years old (back when I was in my mid-40s), only I made the mistake of giving her a t-shirt from my employer. I then hooked up with the girl a few more times as she was worth it. Finally, the day that I was leaving, I said goodbye to her in the morning. She must have checked with reception to find out when I was leaving, because late that afternoon around 5 p.m., I was with 9 co-workers, standing outside the hotel waiting for a shuttle bus to the airport, when the 19-year-old (who was tall, with long legs) showed up wearing the t-shirt and a short skirt to say goodbye!

Hard for me to pretend that I didn't know her when she was wearing that t-shirt. I was already divorced at that time, so I didn't have to worry about any adultery reports, but still I wonder if my career was hurt by that incident (the men in the group probably didn't care, but there were a couple of middle-aged female co-workers who were probably not amused).

Mighty Spearsman

07-28-05, 18:06

Hey, I just noticed that I've gone from over 450 posts to just over 40 posts (although I'm still a senior member). Looks as if most of my past posts disappeared in the conversion from WSG to ISG. Oh well.

KL Guy

07-28-05, 19:34

Hi Brandon,

I'll be there from 3rd August till 8th August! Care to meet up?

Regards,

KL Guy

Is anyone in town the week of August 8th? I expect to swinging through for a visit.

Brandon88

07-28-05, 20:48

spearsman, that is a nightmare. i would have died.

reminds me of one incident when a girl was in the room fairly drunk when she got a phone call (from a poor schmuck in europe who was sending her 5 million rupes a month, but thats another story), ran out of the room so i couldn't listen (like i cared) and ran down the hotel hallway in her underwear!
and of course, she couldn't remember which room was mine and she goes banging on another door, which just so happened to be inhabited by one of my coworkers. i was mortified watching through the peep hole.

the next morning at breakfast, the guy says to me "the strangest thing happened to me late last night. i half-naked girl knocked on my door and woke me up, then she ran away". i said "oh really? that is just bizarre"
haha!

Master Diver II

07-29-05, 04:14

Spearsman,

Your missing reports might explain the phenomenon I've been noticing over the last couple of months. I saw a few senior members with very few reports and some of us wondered what that was about (there was one with just 4 reports!). I can understand the embarassment you must have felt - I wouldn't have wanted to have been in your shoes. Well at least she was hot and that would have made it more worthwhile:).

The cure for not worrying about co workers or your boss is supposedly simple. Set up a small business, enough to take care of your needs with just enough left over for trips to Jakarta. You can always come up with an excuse for the home minister by saying business trip. I normally turn a 2 day 1 night working trip into a 4 day 3 night layover;).

MD II

Jaimito Cartero

07-29-05, 04:34

There are some senior members who were grandfathered in, or more likely, friends or aquaintances of Jackson who have been given it.

On the Argentinaprivate.com board, I went from 1200+ posts down to 290 or so.

Mighty Spearsman

07-29-05, 18:21

i think that i figured out what happened to my missing posts. of my 450+ posts, about 90% of them are on what is now the "usa sex guide," since i live in connecticut, while only a few are on what is now the "international sex guide."

in thinking about it, i probably have made somewhere between 40 and 50 posts about my international exploits, mostly in the indonesia, hong kong, and cambodia boards, plus some others rep001tered in other places. i believe that in the conversion from wsg to isg, that the number of posts was recalculated to delete the number of posts made on the us boards from before wsg was split into two separate boards. i noticed that when the usa sg was created, that the number of posts that i had there dropped by around 35 posts, which meant that jackson's computer has dropped my international posts and were only counting my us posts.

another thing to think about is that the post-counting system just started around may 2002. posts made by me and others before that time (and i've been posting since 1995 when atta was running wsg) were never included in that count. which is why i'm impressed whenever i see that someone has over 1,000 posts - that's a lot of posting!

by the way, i'm up to 509 posts on usa sg.

the first guess by jaimito cartero is the correct one, several years ago jacksaon grandfathered a lot of posters into "senior member" status, even if they had only made a few posts. most of those mongers have posted fairly regularly and have pushed their number much higher, but obviously a few only post once a year (if even).

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on an unrelated note, i loved brandon88's story!

Bulai69

07-30-05, 08:49

I was suprised by your comment "I've not had anything that resembles a GFE here.". You've been unlucky - but maybe it's a reflection on where you found her. Not the best place for hunting if you want GFE "included in the price"

Menteng

07-30-05, 09:30

I'm doing fine Jad. Read my FR in the Netherlands/Den Haag section.
What about you? Are you on scheme with MSG?
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For those who frequent Club 27, I heard that it is closed. Anybody out there who knows what happened to my favourite hangout place?

Sabbath

07-30-05, 12:21

hmmmm.., guess that was wrong

Crazy4Thai

07-30-05, 15:32

overall

i've done the scene in asia since '92, mostly thailand. i'm now 58 and been wanting to do jakkarta for at least 10 years.

i did some research before i went and i do realize that i did not even scratch the surface in my 7 days there ending late july.

so, with that as background, in my opinion as a noobie, good action is hard to find, and gfe is even harder. prices are acceptable but overall the scene is just as commercial as thailand and even more so, i think. the locals not on the game are very friendly and surprisingly the men too. so many men saying hello - how are you with a big smile and not trying to sell you something.

i was in the kota area or china town, (based a on a forum recommendation about the sparks hotel and the available action) and it reminded me of the squalor of the philippines, of which i'm not a big fan. i am glad that i went. i did see women with a unique stunning beauty. i'm sure the mongers who choose to live there or really know the scene do quite well. in my opinion, if you are a complete noobie to the asian scene, start with thailand - i still prefer it. regrets - i like the street scene and regret that i did not make time for jala jaksa.

any comments from the more experienced welcome.

details

i hunted for pleasure in many kinds of venues - discos, street, massage, hotel bars, brothel and for the first time ever karaoke. here's my scorecard.

country bar disco (not the accurate name - but the only one there in lokasari plaza) no freelancers that i could see - many girls run by the "mami", too dark to tell how many or to really judge the beauty. took a 20 y.o., the 3rd girl brought to me, for s.t. 7-looks, 6-attitude, 3-performance, 8-price (200k), overall a 6.

street - 20 y.o., 9-looks, 7-attitude, 7-performance, 8-price (200k), overall a 8. (she became my favorite and i saw her 3 times in 1 week, and of course it just got better)

street - 21 y.o., 6-looks, 7-attitude, 7-performance, 8-price (200k), overall a 7.

cj's - 23 y.o., 9-looks in the bar 7 in the room, 5-attitude, 8-performance, 7-price (300k), overall a 7. (really a hardened pro - she even had her own car - i just had to pay the 25,000 parking fee instead of taxi) this was sunday night and a lively scene. my jd on the rocks was 90k each. i would not go back.

berlian massage - 25 y.o., 7-looks, 9-attitude, 8-performance, 8-price (220k), overall a 8. (one of the better recommedations on the board)

my bar, blok m - 30 y.o.? looked good in the bar, 8-looks 7 in the room, 4-attitude, 7-performance, 7-price (300k), overall a 7?. (another hardened pro, in the bar she said, "up to you - i no speak about money" in the room she spoke plenty about 300, not 200) i really liked my bar though. drink prices were ok, i had the tuesday night all-you-can-eat buffet for 50k.
it was excellent, the service is good, and true to reports there were many ladies to choose from after 10:30 or so. just the luck of the draw, i'm sure.
btw - did a google on blok m and came up with a site devoted to the scene. get their map - it's not that simple.

b's club karaoke in lokasari plaza - 2 ladies, singing and not much else - 700k total with drinks - overall a 5, would not repeat karaoke.

brothel - private "lady house" in thailand. approached by kindly little old lady mami in lok. plaza was my last night in jakarta and knowing what a cheap fuck i can be, i decided to spend more if needed to have a great experience. i went with her, they brought out their 20 or so girls, i picked one that appeared to show some interest, for lt @ 500k. 23 y.o. 8-looks, 1-attitude, 0-performance, 5-price (500k), overall a true rip-off. (she refused to do any kind of oral, even though i showed an explicit wallet sized photo that i use to avoid these misunderstandings, to all involved before i laid my money down. i called from the "name card" that i grabbed off the table when in their house and man said he would send another. that never happened. this business is called cyber entertainment in the off chance that you have a reason to find out the name and avaid them.)

more opinion

pricing - who knows? it seems to vary way more than what i'm used to. i never was able to get pricing as low as i read on the forum. i think one example was berlians in may for a total cost of 180k. on this particular trip the more i spent, the worse it was.
location - several forum references to lokasari plaza being a good location. i guess it is in what you are used too and also i'm sure that i did not uncover all that is to be had there. there is reference too a brothel there with 100 to 200 women but i never found it even afetr asking somne local men.

food / language - i think you really need some language skills here. menus were not ususally translated. i eat on the street in thailand but could not bring myself to do that here.

sparks hotel - covered in an earlier post - i thought it was good value at $40 us per night. book through asia travel.com for that rate. but as i said - i have my doubts about staying in this area compared to some others.

internet access - in the hotel for 25k for 30 minutes, at the multiplus business center in lokasari plaza for less about 10k per hour - usually a good connection speed but very slow a couple of times.

i think it would be great if one of the experienced dudes here would outline the "perfect week" for a noobie so that those who have been dying to do jakarta can get a better ride than i did.

c4t

John Aldrich

07-30-05, 18:42

Menteng,

I am surprised. I was there about 10 days back and was having a drink in the garden on the terrace. When did you hear it closed. Let me check with Nelda who is the Manager of the place.

I would be surprised if it is closed, because I was introduced to their new PR Manager, a sexy looking girl, the last time when I went there.

Smoothy

07-30-05, 18:45

It's Saturday night and I just returned from Tiga Puluh. I hadn't gone there in years. They have totally remodelled the place since the last time I was there. However, What a disgusting lack of talent at that place these days! The band is the same one they had 5 years ago. Don't they ever change that band? There was only one girl in the entire place that I thought was attractive. She smoked non-stop, which I hate. So I took a pass on her. 75,000 entrance fee and a single Corona costs 75,000 rupiah as well! I think it may be another 5 years before I return there.

Crazy4Thai

07-31-05, 08:44

About those missing reports - sheesh, it's a set back when you only had 14 to begin with!

Menteng

07-31-05, 10:10

John,

I received an sms from a regular and the bad news was confirmed by the former OM, Wawan.
Please contact Nelda and tell her "pak Dicky dari Holland kirim salam". And maybe she could tell more.
A new PR? Replacing Nelda? And Nelda replaced Ginting as the GM?

God of Gamblers

07-31-05, 11:20

Just one question, CT4: at the Country disco, where did you take her? Is there a place there or did you have to take her back to your place?

Thanks

GoG

Quim Reaper

08-01-05, 04:46

For those who frequent Club 27, I heard that it is closed. Anybody out there who knows what happened to my favourite hangout place?Club 27 sounds familiar. A couple years ago while I was visiting, a friend took me to a place in the Menteng area that had a number in the name and was somewhat off the beaten path. I recall a place that had a drinking area in the upstairs of a house or house-like structure and had a friendly atmosphere along with a number of hard-drinking expats and some of their families (wives and near-adult kids).

I wanted to drop by there on a subsequent visit the following year, but could not remember the name or specific locale. Not sure why I brain-farted on that particular outing. After having lived in Jakarta for a couple years in the past and visited several times since, I am usually pretty good about remembering places and faces no matter how many cups into it I was (although admittedly, there were a few mornings when I wished that I could forget one or both from the previous night).

Does this sound like the same place? If so, it is a shame if it is closed. If not the same, does the place I am describing ring a bell with anyone?

Dunia David

08-01-05, 05:52

If any lads fancy a lady of the more corpulent variety, married and up for anything and everything, drop me a pvt message and I shall pass on details.

I am more one for your Asian hard body myself and happy to trade nos.

She just loves shagging but I am afraid prefers to play with westerners.

Crazy4Thai

08-01-05, 06:17

Country disco appears to be as much brothel as anything - they have st rooms on the premises - it was 200k all in.

Brandon88

08-01-05, 23:17

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "BBW"?

I cannot recall the recommendations, but can someone please tell me again where the better place is on Sunday nights these days? I can't remember if it is CJs or Tigah, and based on Smoothie's last comment, I hope it ain't Tigah.

I'm arriving this coming Sunday, so the offer stands...anyone interested in meeting up at the place du jour, 1st round is on me.

Brandon88

08-01-05, 23:24

One more question...

I have some coworkers joining me next week who want me to stay in Singapore while they straighten out their entry visas for Indo for a day or two. These are not hobbyists, to my knowledge. Has any of you done a comparison between Sing and JKT with respect to experiences at night?
I have heard of the Orchard Towers scene, but I dont know if it is a better choice to go directly to JKT (a known commodity) versus exploring what S has to offer.
It would be nice being in JKT for a full night/day knowing that no familiar faces may be lurking in the hotel corridors...but the singaporeans are pretty hot.
What to do?

Ekspat

08-02-05, 01:04

I cannot recall the recommendations, but can someone please tell me again where the better place is on Sunday nights these days? I can't remember if it is CJs or Tigah, and based on Smoothie's last comment, I hope it ain't Tigah.As far as I know is 30 closed on Sundays.

Have fun!

Cheers!

JonTom

08-02-05, 01:16

Brandon88:

BBW = Big Beautiful Woman = larger size lady (corpulent)

I personally prefer Jakarta over Singapore mainly because I tend to get more of a GFE experience in Jakarta (and generally at a better price). Having said that I do go through Singapore regularly and have had some pretty good times. My experience in Singapore however is limited to the Orchard Towers so I'm sure much more can be had with a bit of exploring - I've just never had the time while there.

Dung Dang

08-02-05, 02:00

Brandon88,

As long as your coworkers are not from the Netherlands or Sweden, they might be eliglible for entry visa arriving in Jakarta, so there is no need for applying in Singapore.

Dung Dang

Wacko

08-02-05, 04:10

Have been to Jakarta & Medan during last two weeks but the news of frequent raid because of the new police chief has cause many places to qiute down a lot.Just want to know if these is really going on & anybody who is in the high places can provide some info how long these will continue.Does these happen on the whole of Indonesia?Thanks in advance to the seniors or old timer who are willing to share.

Quim Reaper

08-02-05, 04:20

One more question.

I have some coworkers joining me next week who want me to stay in Singapore while they straighten out their entry visas for Indo for a day or two. These are not hobbyists, to my knowledge. Has any of you done a comparison between Sing and JKT with respect to experiences at night?

I have heard of the Orchard Towers scene, but I dont know if it is a better choice to go directly to JKT (a known commodity) versus exploring what S has to offer.
It would be nice being in JKT for a full night/day knowing that no familiar faces may be lurking in the hotel corridors, but the Singaporeans are pretty hot.
What to do?I find Singapore to be rather expensive for both entertainment and p4p - expensive to the point that it is difficult for me to enjoy (by the way, I am neither poor nor cheap - it is more a matter of the feeling of being financially exploited). Some Singaporeans may indeed be hot, but OT will be mostly imports: Thai, Malay, Indo, PRC, Phil - you know the drill. Geylang (Chinese red light district) will presumably have more PRC.

You might POSSIBLY meet a hot Singaporean office girl, more likely a Malay rather than a Chinese or Indian (my impression is that the native Chinese and Indian tend to be the less socially adventuresome of the group), in a club along Mohammed Sultan, but be prepared for large cover charges, US$9 beers (local, small pint) and the like - AND quite possibly nothing to show for it short of an evening of drinking, dancing and conversation. This is assuming nothing has changed in the last 2 years or so since I dropped by Mohammed Sultan. I believe Clarke Quay may be somewhat more reasonable, but probably also more tourist than local. You could also possibly meet a cute Phil domestic helper on her time off at the mall (Thursday night or Sunday day at Far East plaza?, can't quite remember anymore), but they tend to be nice girls looking for husbands.

Jakarta is a whole other world. A whole other playground. Let me put it this way - when I visit Asia on vacation, as I do almost annually, I almost always stop at Singapore along with mandatory stops in Jakarta and Bangkok. I stop at Singapore for the food and to visit a buddy, not for entertainment. While there, I do not usually bother to hunt for p4p, although I would (obviously) not turn down any freebies that presented themselves.

It seems to me that in Singapore you will just be paying a lot more for pretty much the same (or less) as what you can get in Jakarta - well okay admittedly not Thai or Phil, but that is what Bangkok and Manila are for. From an analytical point of view the p4p girls that go to Singapore on short term visas are no doubt likely to be good looking, but considering that they are not there long enough for much repeat business, are not so likely to be overly concerned with customer satisfaction, except possibly if they are entertaining a local that they think might be in the market for a mistress, or if they are working for a very expensive upscale escort agency.

I personally believe that if you want to drink from the spring, go to the source - who knows what you're really gonna get once it is bottled and transported. (Yes, I realize that the p4p girls in Jakarta, Bangkok, Manila, etc are mostly from the countryside and often racially distinct from the local girls, but please allow me and my metaphor a little leeway.) And as I alluded to earlier, the native source in Singapore is relatively speaking a tiny puddle and/or largely inaccessible to the short term visitor. My advice is to go straight to Jakarta and count your blessings.

That is how I see it and remember it. If I am wrong or out of date hopefully someone that knows better, like a resident expat or frequent buyer, will chime in.

Dorman

08-02-05, 04:29

Singapore is a fine city, well laid out, clean, orderly, great transport infastructure, good air quality etc. hence there is simply no question where you should spend your free night...JAKARTA!

Orchard Towers has the nearest thing to the scene in Jakarta as you'll find in Singapore, notorious as 'the six floors of *****s', it is a collection of bars where the sort of ladies we like hang out, hati-hati though the further up you get the more you run into the sort 'ladies' we're not so fond of.

But my point is that it's not worth bothering about, the girls aren't local, mainly Thai, Filipina and of course Indonesian, so why bother with Jakarta Lite when an hour's flight gets you the real thing. Plus the girls in Sing, by the very nature of the situation are pretty much hard core pros. So if you have the choice pick the big, smelly, dirty, chaotic city to the south.

On a Sunday night I think CJ's would be the better bet, not so crowded as Saturday but with fewer guys as presumably they've got work in the morning or some other lame excuse for not getting what God has laid on their plates before them.

PS Brandon check out my post from April 15 on the subject.

Menteng

08-02-05, 10:53

Hand Solo,
It is not the club you mentioned. Club 27 opened only last november and is located in the Blok M district.

John A,
Did you manage to contact Nelda?

JAD,
With your contacts, can you please find out what happened to Club 27 and if it is only a temporary closing?

Juggernutt

08-02-05, 12:18

I am sad that you didnt have a good time in Jakarta.

You know what they say: BKK is maybe the official sin city of Asia, but Jakarta is the unofficial one.

Again being a muslim country it is more hidden than BKK, but it's all there and more.
Thailand has more and is easily accessible, but Jakarta IMO has better and for more interesting price.

I am impressed that you have gotten so far and it shows that you are experienced in this.

But more than in BKK you need someone here to guide you. Everything changes fast and you need a good contact to help you thru.

That's what happened to me.

The places you have visited are right on the money, but it seems that you are just off teh mark. Can I ask when you visited teh place?

Because in the afternoon that's when teh semi pros etc comeout to play.

And the country disco is one of the most notorious places to visit.

Sabbath

08-02-05, 14:12

30 is closed on Sundays. CJ's is the place to go on a Sunday night.

About Club 27, they had a raid going on about 2-3 weeks ago. If they had to close because of this, not sure.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "BBW"?

I cannot recall the recommendations, but can someone please tell me again where the better place is on Sunday nights these days? I can't remember if it is CJs or Tigah, and based on Smoothie's last comment, I hope it ain't Tigah.

I'm arriving this coming Sunday, so the offer stands...anyone interested in meeting up at the place du jour, 1st round is on me.

Jkt After Dark 2

08-02-05, 14:41

menteng,

i am fine. glad to know you are doing fine too. i have been very busy. i will check them out in den haag thread as soon as i am free.

i am not sure with what are you asking. but, let me try to answer. it is not my site. but, yes, i am administering promotions and moderating discussions for jakarta & buffer cities (4 suburbs) and several major cities for this local bulletin at all expenses reimbursed.

since you speak perfect indonesia you should learned that the discussions are in bahasa indonesia and completelly different compare to international sex guide's treads for indonesia since it reflects the local taste, trend, ability and willingness to pay. if you check the transactions, you will also realize that this bulletin is actually an upscale one (by accident i supposed): few reports on 150-300k bordello, most reports on 500k-1 million spa therapists, local and imported (prc and ruskies) lady companions, few reports on 1.5-3 million spa imported (prc and ruskies) lady companion and local lady escorts. very indo chinese. the bulletin is down as it has been undergoing some maintenance. it will be accessible again after august 17, 2005.

about club 27. sorry i have no idea as i never focuss on this area (little tokyo). let me check around first. i will get back to you if i can assess the info you need. i advice you to check-out club 36 and sand at wtc mangga dua to fine your liking.

john aldrich,

how are you doing, john?

jakarta after dark

John Aldrich

08-02-05, 21:48

jakarta boss, anyday. Not Bangkok, Not singapore or for that matter not even heaven, bcoz you will find the true heaven in Jakarta.

Cheers,

One more question...

I have some coworkers joining me next week who want me to stay in Singapore while they straighten out their entry visas for Indo for a day or two. These are not hobbyists, to my knowledge. Has any of you done a comparison between Sing and JKT with respect to experiences at night?
I have heard of the Orchard Towers scene, but I dont know if it is a better choice to go directly to JKT (a known commodity) versus exploring what S has to offer.
It would be nice being in JKT for a full night/day knowing that no familiar faces may be lurking in the hotel corridors...but the singaporeans are pretty hot.
What to do?

John Aldrich

08-02-05, 21:58

hi jad,

its been a long time. how have you been. have been pretty busy, yes mongering here. was there in bangkok for a weekend. experienced the bbj at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). except for thet nbangkok is pale compared to our jakarta.

menteng,

have sent sms to nelda and she has not responded. called her this evening and she did not pick up the hp. am planning a trip towards blok m. will drop in there to figure out whats happening. but i am confident its still on. or they maybe waiting for you to come back to start off ( wink)

cheers,

Menteng

08-03-05, 09:42

JAD,

You're right about the other bulletin. It struck me also that the mentioned prices are of a different level than those that are mentioned here. But, it provides information that I may need someday.

John,

Thank you for trying.

JAD and John,

I managed to contact Ginting the (former?) GM of Club 27. He confirmed the closing of 27. But it is temporary. They are redoing the place, so it will have a spa and MP. Mind you, all that specially for me ;-)

Brandon88

08-03-05, 22:36

Thanks guys for all the replies. It's unanimous to go straight on then. I had the feeling that S would be expensive based on my $9 beer at the Irish Pub on Orchard Road.

I can't wait. :>

Brandon88

08-03-05, 23:48

Maybe this is the wrong place for this post, but I was just thinking of the stark contrast between Indo and Athens (where I also find myself on a regular basis). We all know the situation in JKT, so I need not repeat it. But imagine being in Athens...
Clean, picturesque, interesting, filled with babes strutting around in belly shirts and tight pants. And all off limits! With the exception of a handful of brothels, staffed by one or two well-past-prime russians. The clubs don't get going until 1am, so that's not an option on a work night. The girls you see any other time seem very unapproachable (but I'm not one for dropping pickup lines on total strangers). It is just torture.
The weekly english language paper does carry escort ads, but most of them are asking 400 euro or better for a short time, and that's beyond my budget. There are a few girl bars downtown where you can buy an attractive russian a split of champagne for 70+ euro, and then risk your health when you protest the bill surrounded by 3 large russian mobsters (I'll pass).

I really love the city (ok, i really like the city), but givena choice between that and dirty, smelly JKT, I'll take on the extra 10 hours in the plane any time.

Ekspat

08-04-05, 11:20

but givena choice between that and dirty, smelly JKT, I'll take on the extra 10 hours in the plane any time.Thank god, for me it's a 2hrs hop to JKT only to visit my lovely chicks. So I can do this weekend trips around once a month. Luckily.

But Brandon's description is valid for most West-European cities, right? I don't think Rome, Paris, London or Madrid to be cheaper, or am I wrong? I'm not so sure, I'm 6 yrs outta there now. Okay, Eastern Europe except Moscow might be cheaper.

Cheers!
_______________________________________________
Sex is like air. It's unimportant unless you aren't getting any.

Crazy4Thai

08-04-05, 15:52

I DID have a good time in Jakarta - just not as good as I'd hoped. In fact, looking back at my "scorecard numbers" I thought it added up pretty well overall. I too concluded that an experienced guide would have been worthwhile. You asked me "Can I ask when you visited the place?"

Well, I'd sometimes start as early as 1 pm, but on average begin anywhere from 4 to 7 pm, seriously on the hunt, and keep at it until quite late if necessary.

I'll probably escape the US winter by going to Asia for 6 months beginning Oct or Nov and maybe try to hook up with a local for my next round in Jakarta.

C4T

Joel Goodsen

08-07-05, 05:46

Had heard the story before. 4 or 5 times whilst travelling/backpacking through indoland. This time it happened whilst on a recent mall hunt. An older girl bumped into me from behind, "accidently". I turned around and she smiled excusing herself, I smiled back and she started the conversation in reasonable english.

She must at least been 45, having her age corrected for asia. Older girls speaking english in indonesia normally do not have anything for sale I would be interested in, but having already spend over an hour or so on the prowl without any luck I checked her out. Regular white teeth, good looking skin, neatly dressed etc., enough points on the pre-fuck health test. So, I asked her to join me for a coffee and she was delighted.

We had a bit of a chit-chat, she told me she was 35 and I ordered and paid for the drinks. But, before we sat down and before I could start my standard bull-shit story as an opening to invite her to my hotelroom later, she asked me which country I was from. I told her ..and what a coincidence! Her sister was a student and just about to enroll in an exchange program to my country of origin. I just had to meet her. When was I leaving? (I had told her I would only stay a few days more) She asked me to come with her after the coffees to meet the sister, but having encountered the story before and rather planning my own time, I lost immediate interest. So, unpolitely I looked into her shopping bags and continued the conversation in bahasa, which sorted the right response. Very funny. As if stung by a bee, she didn't know how to excuse herself and quickly make her exit. Poor girl.

It all ended up a bit of unsatisfying day for me. No luck in the mall, I found myself an hour later with a pro negotiating rupiahs for dumping my load. And, to be a little honest, i'm not to keen on too much experience anymore. The pro sensed that, and oh boy, what a waste.

The incidence has left me with a couple of questions though, i would like to pop here. Does anyone has experience with these stories? Any variations to this one? I would like to hear them. I never had the patience to sit it out. Does anyone ever has met the sister? And, is my presumption correct that the sister story is just an opportunity for luring a westerner into a friendship or, even better, marriage, with of a poor indo girl?

Cheers

JP2U

08-07-05, 10:14

I really love the city (ok, i really like the city), but givena choice between that and dirty, smelly JKT, I'll take on the extra 10 hours in the plane any time.
This is the most compelling case for JKT I'd ever seen. :)

Bulai69

08-07-05, 15:54

For the first time in a very long time I went to Dunia Fantasia (Dufan as they call it) in Ancol last Sunday with my "girlfriend" and a group of of her friends. For those who don't know it's a kind of Disney Land with cafe's and various rides designed to make you ill. I was there for around six hours, not my scene really, but I did notice that it provides an excellent opportunity to pick up girls. I did not see another bule in all that time and I was clearly seen as a novelty by a number of people - a fact which is easy to exploit.

I surreptitiously gave my phone number to 6 girls, 4 of whom sms'd me back. I always carry a card with my HP number and a note saying please call or sms me - so it's easy to collect girls numbers when you are with another one.

Unfortunately I haven't yet followed any up as I've been rather too busy with my "girlfriend" who I met last time in a mall. She is without doubt, for me, the ultimate girl and as a result I've spent rather too much money her. I was happy to meet a fellow WSG contributor for the first time this trip and he might like too boost my ego by declaring his view of her in the forum - but not what I've spent on her I hope or any credibility I have will be out of the window. As I sit here in the UK, I must still assert that you should not ever lock yourself in to any girl in JKT because, as I've said before, she will take you for everything you've got and be screwing around when you are not there. It's so easy to get taken in.

Surfing71

08-07-05, 21:21

I will be travelling to Jakarta tomorrow, I will arrive on Tuesday night. Iwill be staying in JW Marriott, As it is my first time in Jakarta, Can somebody indicate me a pick up place or a bar, not very far from Marriott?

Many thanks for your help,

Surfing71

Ekspat

08-08-05, 03:51

I must still assert that you should not ever lock yourself in to any girl in JKT because, as I've said before, she will take you for everything you've got and be screwing around when you are not there.It can't be repeated often enough. Once I took a really beautiful lady out of CJ or 30, don't remember, and we had good bedroom olympics the whole night and I booked her 3-4 times more in 2003/04. Next morning she asked me for my email, which I gave her. She wrote down her email and (for my surprise) her password. Huh???? Anyway, sometimes I'm curious and look into the emails she gets from her bule lovers she has.

My godness, sometimes scaring stories of the guys about their living circumstances. How desperate is the average US or European husband? As I read it, sex and emotions in a US or European marriage are almost reduced to Zero?

I think some guys are that unhappy in their marriage that they easily believe the caring and loving GFE in Jakarta. Because they just WANT to believe it and feel better, what I really can understand. Having one of those warm charming pretty ladies to forget home.

Good luck mates!

Cheers!

Master Diver II

08-08-05, 11:29

Ekspat,

I find your comments interesting with regard to the emotional aspects. Where are you from Ekspat? I have to state early on that as a Malaysian, I would probably look at things differently; however, consider it for a moment from another angle: if I, as a UK resident, were to earn the same amount in Pounds Sterling as I do in Ringgit Malaysia, I would think it chikenfeed to pay 5,000,000 rupiahs (~GBP300) a month for superb GFE. Not all UK, Euro or US residents are as well versed as B69, and when you look at it from the costs they're paying over there, it seems to be an incredible bargain. For all you know, they may be writing bull in their emails to impress the girl (when they dont really have to - but they dont necessarily know that) thinking it will help with the GFE.

Having said that, you really do have to keep your head screwed on tight to prevent it from spinning beyond control (this applies to both heads:D) in Jakarta. My last visit, the girl from CJs was even suggesting that she thought that if we had a baby, it would look very handsome/pretty, and she would be happy to have a husband who was nice and kind and thoughtful and......... like me!??!! At this rate, my heads' growth would be phenomenal (note the position of the apostrophe) even though the alarm bells would be ringing because of the words baby and husband!

Surfing,

There are plenty of options as long as you dont go out into the famous Jakarta traffic rush hours. It depends on your tastes of course but it shouldnt take too long to go to all the standard locations in the evening - from the Blok M places to the hotel bars. Just RTFF and you should be on your way. If in doubt, you could always check with the bellboys or concierge.

MD II

Brandon88

08-08-05, 11:37

let me first say that i wish b69 were still here. i'd love to have a beer with the master. oh well.

to surfing71, drop me a line quickly. i'm in town only until friday. i can show you just a bit of the scene.

so last night, i went to cj's upon recommendation of you folks. it was jumping for a sunday night. sitting at the bar, scanning the scene, a blonde (!) indo girl sidled up next to me, with her friend (i assumed it was her friend). after many rounds of drinks, i asked her to take off the headband she was wearing. i dont know why, but i suspected a wig. after a few rounds of badgering, she dragged me out into the lobby so we could hear each other (her english was a bit spotty, and the volume of the band was not condusive to conversation....not a bad band though). she confessed that the blond hair was fake, which turned me off a bit. she was cute, but as a sucker for blondes, i was disappointed. so back in to close the tab and shove off. her 'friend', not really good looking, but not bad either (i'm rather picky) slid me her number right in front of 'blondie'. blondie then drags me back out for further discussions, while flipping the finger at her 'friend'. guess they werent friends after all. outside, i tell her i'm going back to my hotel, alone (which was a shame because there was one chikita there i really liked, who vanished while this one was grinding my lap). she launches into the indignation phase, saying "i though you take me, because many man look at me". well, sorry honey, i just want to leave. good luck with that. i had to peel myself away from her and take off for the taxi queue.

luckily, one of my numbers was still awake and willing, so all was not lost.

but i generally like cj's. but i'm batting 2/2 for getting difficult ones there. (the other one was ordering batches of rum and cokes repeatedly, despite not drinking them).

generally though, nice crowd there, and the cj band seems to have more musical talent then before.

Smoothy

08-08-05, 15:08

I'll be in Jakarta Wednesday through Friday if any of you guys are willing to grab a beer together, send me a PM.

Bulai69

08-08-05, 20:05

MDII - thanks for the compliment when you say "Not all UK, Euro or US residents are as well versed as B69, and when you look at it from the costs they're paying over there, it seems to be an incredible bargain."

But I have to admit that although I am good at giving advice to others I don't always heed it myself as some of my friends in this forum know. My excuse for paying "over the odds" (on the rare occasions when I do) is as you say: to find a girl as good (in every respect) as the girl I am spending too much on at the moment would literally be impossible for me in the UK, regardless of price. So on occassions it's a treat. The main thing is, never, ever believe that you are buying loyalty.

What I think mongers should avoid is paying 3 or 4 times over what the same girl can be had for. Far too many girls are asking and presumably getting 1 million (100USD) when they would be delighted with 200 or 300k.

KL Guy

08-08-05, 20:24

Hi Bulai,

OK heres my 1K Rupiahs worth of Comments after having meet the great Bulai & his latest accomplishment.

I myself would have never ever paid what he paid (gifts worth so much that any person would think this bule is mad!) for the girl but one has to bear in mind that Im a Malaysian but after having meet the girl in question, I must say that she could be a model in KL or Jakarta anytime and having had the pleasure of going out with her friend Ms P, the sales rep & recent graduate, Bulai's babe, Ms P's friend & 3 other guys, I must say that all eyes were on the 3 ladies that I had the pleasure of being with but no conquest story as per Bulai's case coz perhaps I dont want to go back to KL owing the Credit Card a couple months of wages/earnings!

Anway my dear friend I know you will make the right choice down the road but I suggest the sooner the better even though she is hell of a drop dead delcious babe!

Warm regards from KL,

KL Guy just back a few hours from Wonderful Jakarta

MDII - thanks for the compliment when you say "Not all UK, Euro or US residents are as well versed as B69, and when you look at it from the costs they're paying over there, it seems to be an incredible bargain."

But I have to admit that although I am good at giving advice to others I don't always heed it myself as some of my friends in this forum know. My excuse for paying "over the odds" (on the rare occasions when I do) is as you say: to find a girl as good (in every respect) as the girl I am spending too much on at the moment would literally be impossible for me in the UK, regardless of price. So on occassions it's a treat. The main thing is, never, ever believe that you are buying loyalty.

What I think mongers should avoid is paying 3 or 4 times over what the same girl can be had for. Far too many girls are asking and presumably getting 1 million (100USD) when they would be delighted with 200 or 300k.

One Wing Low

08-08-05, 20:44

Hi Joel,

What game would this old woman in JKT play with you?

I ran into a Chinese guy in Kuala Lumpur who played the same game with me with his sister heading to the US for school and needing couseling. when I agreed to go with him, he took me by cab way outside of the city to the home of an obvious gangster. he wore a couple pounds worth of gold chains on his neck and his wrists. He tried to engage me into cheating others with him in card games. I firmly refused to partake after taking in all the info of the home they were at. There were some very beautiful women hanging around the place which stirred my interests. He told me I should leave.

The Chinese guy took me back to Central Kuala Lumpur, trying to stiff me with the cab fare. I told the cab driver to call the police, at which point he quickly paid the cab fare and disappeared. I was very pissed that there are lots of crooks in Asia trying to take advantage of the generosity and good wills of tourists.

When approached by strangers in Asia, one must assume they are out to cheat or rob tourists.

Had heard the story before. 4 or 5 times whilst travelling/backpacking through indoland. bull-shit story as an opening to invite her to my hotelroom later, she asked me which country I was from. I told her ..and what a coincidence! Her sister was a student and just about to enroll in an exchange program to my country of origin. She asked me to come with her after the coffees to meet the sister, but having encountered the story before and rather planning my own time, I lost immediate interest.
Cheers

Master Diver II

08-09-05, 03:31

B69,

My interest is piqued. Is there any chance that you might inform me prior to your next trip so I might meet you there (and hopefully your friend's friends;)). I'm probably almost as big a sucker as you in this respect and why not PM me the horrendous amount you've been spending so I might have a tiny chance to brace myself for the dreadful blows to my not-as-deep-as-I-would-like pockets:(.

KL Guy,

Hope you had a good trip there and I'm looking forward to reading your FR.

MD II

Smoothy

08-09-05, 03:40

When approached by strangers in Asia, one must assume they are out to cheat or rob tourists.I have learned to ignore ANY male asian who agressively tries to talk with me. I've found that normally Asians are laid back, fairly shy and good mannered. Any guy in Asia who is agressive enough to approach you without knowing you at all is a guy who is most likely up to no good.

I even ignore the agressive females because they are usually also to be avoided. Although I find that I can't always ignore them if they happen to be sexy. :)

Ekspat

08-09-05, 07:34

Where are you from Ekspat?MD,

I'm from Germany, staying since 2000 in Malaysia.

Yes, I heard the same in JKT oredi.. "Darling, lets make baby, will be awesome pretty&cute...."

Time to run or get back to the condoms!

:-)

Cheers!

Kl Tonight

08-09-05, 11:32

Hi all,

Back to Jkt again.. the last 2 trip in July is DISASTER.. so caught up with work that in fact I SPENT 2 nights in client office :( and totally zero hunting. Now is my payback time, hahahaa. Anyone if wanna go for some hunting or drinking, drop me a PM.

Hey, KL Guy, u also here in Jkt? I am from KL too..

LC

Joel Goodsen

08-09-05, 14:01

I have learned to ignore ANY male asian who agressively tries to talk with me. I've found that normally Asians are laid back, fairly shy and good mannered. Any guy in Asia who is agressive enough to approach you without knowing you at all is a guy who is most likely up to no good.

I even ignore the agressive females because they are usually also to be avoided. Although I find that I can't always ignore them if they happen to be sexy. :)A good con is more often non-aggresive. The newspapers in KL last week reported about a judge convicting con-artists who almost fell victim to a con himself.

A chinese woman had approached him with a sobbing story that she was stranded and needed money for the flight back home to China. A friend recognized the woman, took a picture, warned the judge and the whole story ended up in the newspaper.

KL Guy

08-09-05, 15:41

Hi LC,

Sorry I just got back to KL even though I did try to contact some buddies while I was there but I only managed to meet the Great Bulai & his delcious babe & her friends.

The next time perhaps!

KL Guy

Hey, KL Guy, u also here in Jkt? I am from KL too.

LC

Mighty Spearsman

08-09-05, 16:29

Had heard the story before. 4 or 5 times whilst travelling/backpacking through indoland. This time it happened whilst on a recent mall hunt. An older girl bumped into me from behind, "accidently". I turned around and she smiled excusing herself, I smiled back and she started the conversation in reasonable english.

...she asked me which country I was from. I told her ..and what a coincidence! Her sister was a student and just about to enroll in an exchange program to my country of origin. I just had to meet her. When was I leaving? (I had told her I would only stay a few days more) She asked me to come with her after the coffees to meet the sister, but having encountered the story before and rather planning my own time, I lost immediate interest. So, unpolitely I looked into her shopping bags and continued the conversation in bahasa, which sorted the right response. Very funny. As if stung by a bee, she didn't know how to excuse herself and quickly make her exit. Poor girl.

The incidence has left me with a couple of questions though, i would like to pop here. Does anyone has experience with these stories? Any variations to this one? I would like to hear them. I never had the patience to sit it out. Does anyone ever has met the sister? And, is my presumption correct that the sister story is just an opportunity for luring a westerner into a friendship or, even better, marriage, with of a poor indo girl?

Cheers
Hope you get to read the informative post by One Wing Low (below). I've also heard stories similar to the one that One Wing Low tells. As he and others have noted, proceed with caution!

One trick that I've used a couple of times is to tell people that I'm from an out-of-the-way place like Bosnia, just to see their reaction. Good way to scare off some of the scam artists.

Joel Goodsen

08-09-05, 16:57

Ekspat,

I find your comments interesting with regard to the emotional aspects. Where are you from Ekspat? I have to state early on that as a Malaysian, I would probably look at things differently; however, consider it for a moment from another angle: if I, as a UK resident, were to earn the same amount in Pounds Sterling as I do in Ringgit Malaysia, I would think it chikenfeed to pay 5,000,000 rupiahs (~GBP300) a month for superb GFE. Not all UK, Euro or US residents are as well versed as B69, and when you look at it from the costs they're paying over there, it seems to be an incredible bargain. For all you know, they may be writing bull in their emails to impress the girl (when they dont really have to - but they dont necessarily know that) thinking it will help with the GFE.

MD IIWell said Master Diver. Absolutely. Euro's, Pounds, Dollars - hard currencies go a long way in Indo paradise. And a handfull of those per month, together with some attention, can generate the most superb GFE.

If you're too concerned spending a few extra dollars "chickenfeed" on one particular girl because you're so afraid she might be screwing someone else and basically follow much to what Bulai69 and Ekspat are advocating, you potentially miss out on a lot of GFE fun.

O sure, there are many girls in the hardened pro-circuit that have multiple pacars and still go out every weekend playing around with anyone. (One girl I know of in the Blok masterly juggles three at the same time and still goes out every nite. She's 22, the oldest pacar being 62. He, a petrolhead from the UK, bought her a brand new car 2 months ago - chickenfeed besar.)

But if you steer clear from that circuit, there are so many girls available in JKT. If you pick your girls right, you can have the most fantastic time for peanuts, something impossible in the West.

And so what, worst case scenario, you find your girl is also being humped by someone else? No sweat. If you have some interest in her, you find out soon enough, dump her, have thrown some money at poverty and had a most fantastic time.

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B69, no offensive, but

"Far too many girls are asking and presumably getting 1 million (100USD) when they would be delighted with 200 or 300k."

In a place where there are so many girls, so much competion and poverty?? Any guy visiting JKT more than once probably knows the prices. If a girl gets away with asking that to a tourist, good on her, what's the big deal?

Dorman

08-09-05, 17:10

This "sister going to college" thing reminds me, when I was in Bali last year a bloke approached me and asked about whether it was safe for his sister to go to college in Australia, he was worried about Pauline Hanson and the racism thing. Well I tried to convince him that Australia was a safe and tolerant country but he was very keen for me to meet his sister. I don't know what it was but I did smell something fishy and apologised and left, but I'm still not sure what the deal is, I understand One Wing Low's story but I can't believe it's just a scam to get you to play poker is it?

On a more important note, what is happening with Bulai69, is the master succumbing to the charms that have already laid low so many of his humbler disciples (like me)? Has he finally met "the one", you know, the girl he wants to settle down with, the girl he'll bring home to Mum, the girl he wants forever and to whom he could never be unfaithful, well except on Wednesday and Friday nights and Sunday afternoons, and the occasional Tuesday lunchtime (like me!).

I think we have a right to know!

Kl Tonight

08-09-05, 18:01

John Aldrich

08-09-05, 19:14

Hi guys,

Can someone can enlighten me.. I invariably end up in the same places, i need some new places.. I always end in the following
1. Falethan Blok M
2. CJ Bar
3. BATS
4. 30
5. Stadium
6. Cinna Bar
7. Taman Sari 57
8. Plaza Indo lookin for chicks (though success rate not very high..)

Can some senior here point to some alternative? Is it just me the only one in this cycle or there are many brother out there with similar experience?

LC

You can try Tiga Kudah in Menteng II or the disco in Menteng I. But the Menteng II is a better bet because you will find some real young ones there. You can also try De Leila in Gatot Sunroto. Last week I was in Ibis Mangga Dua. The bar there has some music and is a pretty active pick up place.

But what is surprising is how is Cinna Bar figuring there. I am a regular there and have never found any pick ups there. Unless you hit a fluke.

Cheers

Bulai69

08-09-05, 19:20

Dorman - my answer is above! My current girlfriend is fantastic but my common sense prevails, putting aside my spending which - sorry MDII - I'm too malu to disclose to anyone. Even KL Guy does not know the whole story and he thinks I'm completely mad already.

Unfortunately I can't say too much about the whole issue but I did have 3 other girls while I was there including my girlfriends younger sister who does modelling work for a couple of well know Jakarta magazines. When I find out that my girlfriend has been screwing some other guy, as inevitably she will, I will post her photo in here so you can see why I got somewhat carried away.
It will also illustrate what you can find in malls if you're lucky.

Bulai69

08-09-05, 20:00

Limpeh Cheong - there are literally hundreds of places to go to find girls in JKT though I know it's too easy to stick to places that you know. Why not try looking in malls? I've written a lot on this subject, as have others, and as well as being fruitful, there is an additional dimension of excitement in the "chase". There is a complete spectrum of malls from up-market (Plaza Senayan & Plaza Indonesia being at the top) down to Atrium (probably No 1 in terms of ease and availability) and below (many in Kota). Even within the up market malls you can find a spectrum of girls from 100% hookers to "nice girls" looking for (or willing to accept) presents/money etc in exchange for what we are all in search off. For something different you can try Dunia Fantasia which I wrote about a couple of days ago.

KL Guy

08-10-05, 00:02

Well my apologies dear friend if I am unaware of the whole story ;) , however knowing you I'm sure you had a valid reason for doing so & if I was in a similar situation & circumstances as you, yes I may have done the same! Anyway I don't think you're mad but very generous to those whom you believe deserve to be but I don't have your spending power but do enjoy watching you & your conquest.

This bule aka Bulai69 is not mad but like I said to him in Jakarta should 'plead temporary insanity'

Anyway please send my warmest regards to our common Jakarta friends the next time you're there!

Warmest regards from KL Guy back in KL

Dorman - my answer is above! My current girlfriend is fantastic but my common sense prevails, putting aside my spending which - sorry MDII - I'm too malu to disclose to anyone. Even KL Guy does not know the whole story and he thinks I'm completely mad already.

Unfortunately I can't say too much about the whole issue but I did have 3 other girls while I was there including my girlfriends younger sister who does modelling work for a couple of well know Jakarta magazines. When I find out that my girlfriend has been screwing some other guy, as inevitably she will, I will post her photo in here so you can see why I got somewhat carried away.

It will also illustrate what you can find in malls if you're lucky.

Master Diver II

08-10-05, 03:08

B69,

Dont we all know it - that sweet sweet madness that lays men low (correct phrase Dorman;)). Even if you wont take her home to mum, she'll take you to the cleaners. I have a few friends who are completely besotted with their Indonesian girlfriends, and having met them, I can understand why. Generally my common sense has prevailed, but even then I have come close to falling into the honey trap a few times. I guess you're willing to give the girl almost anything except 'commitment'. I would be curious however to meet up if our trips to Jakarta coincide, and wouldn't mind standing a couple of rounds of drinks for you to drown your financial sorrows.

I do recall that a couple of my friends have all but taken an Indonesian wife (one was given a Honda Stream) and some others have spent probably the same preposterous amount of money that you have. I know another who just finished a relationship in Bangkok that cost him ridiculous sums (The last credit card bill I saw - yes he was stupid enough to give a credit card so you're not that badly off - came to USD6,000) and she was still asking him for a 3 series BMW! There are plenty who have gone to the extremes before, so you shouldn't be too malu.

MD II

Ekspat

08-10-05, 04:33

Hi Joel,

We aren't far away in our opinions.

>hard currencies go a long way in Indo paradise.

Dun worry, I know since getting Euros.

>Bulai69 and Ekspat are advocating, you potentially miss out on a lot of GFE fun.

In my posting I was talking about a hardcore-hooker from the bar scene and some Western guys coming to JKT 2-3 times a year for a week.

>If you pick your girls right, you can have the most fantastic time for peanuts, something impossible in the West.

Agree totally. Have done it.

>And so what, worst case scenario, you find your girl is also being humped by someone else? No sweat. If you have some interest in her, you find out soon enough, dump her, have thrown some money at poverty and had a most fantastic time.

Also agree, no problem at all. Have done it.

>If a girl gets away with asking that to a tourist, good on her, what's the big deal?

No big deal. Fine with me.

I had this GFE with those charming ladies from JKT for the past years, but I am able to fly to JKT every weekend to stay 4D/3N if required from Ms. Right.

I was more shocked about the situation Western men endure in their marriages. At least two of my friends are in similar traps. Icecold relationships at home, communication with wife is limited to the absolutely necessary, but a divorce isn't possible, in that case they are financially ruined. So they are easy targets for the sweeties in JKT and also no problem for me.

And if they send every month 5 juta, fine, I was just surprised that those guys believe everything the girl tells. Because they WANT to believe to have some harmony and GFE, I assume so.

Anyway, off to Philippines now!

Cheers!

Ekspat

08-10-05, 04:37

This bule aka Bulai69 is not mad but like I said to him in Jakarta should 'plead temporary insanity'I know that disease, easy to get but easy to cure in JKT.

Got it also a few times.

:-)

Billy Bishop

08-10-05, 05:17

My 1st full report:

I got a night off from the pacar so I headed over to stadium around 9:00. Never been there before and got a little worried because the whole way over there the taxi driver was telling me to be careful about drugs and thieves and police raids... but then right as we pulled up he said. "There are a lot of clubs in Jakarta, but Stadium is the best!"

Once inside I headed up to the 3rd floor and was greeted very warmly by a swarm of young hotties that had their hands all over me. I wasn't quite ready for all this attention and I wanted to have a drink and look around a bit so I clumsily escaped and made my way over to the bar. An "erotic" dance show came on at 10:00. The girls dance for awhile and then move around the audience looking for tips. One came right for me and caught me a little off guard... but she wandered off when I told her she was going to have to do more than dance for 10 seconds to get a tip from me.

By this time, the girls had founds me again and I was quite surrounded. I guess it's pretty much impossible to be a tall, blond, blue eyed bule in thier tweenties and drink in peace. But then again, I wasn't there for the beer and crappy singing. I chose a girl, "M", who had played a funny trick on me earlier while I was gaping at the dancers. She seemed young and told me she was 17... but then again half the girls there say they are 17. Currently price is 222,000 for the room and 5,000 per condom. "M" was playful and fun but a little shy. For example, she didn't mind giving a great BBBJ but laughed and asked "kenapa?" whenever she caught me watching her. She didn't mind having her nipples sucked but no DATY or CIM. In the end we hit it off quite well and she asked if she could come back to my hotel or if I would like to go to her hometown with her. She gave me her number but I've thrown it out to avoid the temptation. Gave her a 50,000 tip and went searching for a blue bird.

I went to Berlian the other day and was having trouble deciding because none of the girls were particularly attractive. I ended up chatting with the DJ for awhile a he recommended someone fairly decent. He's a nice guy, very young but honest about the girls- so feel free to ask his advice.

Kl Tonight

08-10-05, 11:30

Hi John,

Will try your suggestion :) Tiga Kudah is a pub/disco/karaoke? Will venture there tonight maybe, or if you are in Jkt, maybe we may meet up. I hv to admit, Cinna Bar is place to hang out, i havent got any success hunt so far there... yet.
Bulai69, yeah, I hv tried mall hunting in Plaza Indo or Atrium, sadly I think I still need tons of lesson from you :) so far only manage to get some mobile phone number. When I call them (with some passable bahasa) they said cant go out or having period etc...

Will try venture more places and hopefully more reports here. Thanks mate

LC

You can try Tiga Kudah in Menteng II or the disco in Menteng I. But the Menteng II is a better bet because you will find some real young ones there. You can also try De Leila in Gatot Sunroto. Last week I was in Ibis Mangga Dua. The bar there has some music and is a pretty active pick up place.

But what is surprising is how is Cinna Bar figuring there. I am a regular there and have never found any pick ups there. Unless you hit a fluke.

Cheers

Bulai69

08-10-05, 16:31

KL Guy - great to meet you in JKT and I apologize to you for twice leaving you in the hotel lobby with my friends while I took my girlfriend upstairs! Very frustrating for you I'm sure as you saw a back view of her entering the lift! No need to apologise about "not knowing the whole story": I just meant I spent even more than you know about!

MDII - happily I have not reached the level of spending of your friends! The main point about my "temporary insanity" as KL Guy says, is that I do know what I'm doing - by which I mean I am fully aware that all I'm buying is her loyalty while I'm actually in JKT: as I've said before, there are many naive bules who send loads of money to girls every month and unknown to them, they are getting screwed by all and sundry when they are not there. It would be good to catch up when I return (in September).

Limpeh Cheong - I'd be happy to catch up and wander round some malls, in fact by the time I return, Menteng will be there also and I have found in the past that hunting with him can be very productive! A tip worth repeating is that it's worth targetting girls with gay men as well as (or even rather than) girls on their own. If in doubt, speak to the men first, they will always be receptive, then either ask the men about the girl(s) or ask them directly. This particularly applies in the upmarket malls.

John Aldrich

08-10-05, 17:54

Limpeh Cheong

You can also try Stix at Park Lane or Tavern at Aryaduta or the new Bar at Ritz. I have scored everytime I went to these places. You can also try Barbados in Kemang.

I am in bangkok and will be back this tuesday. If you are here till 17th then lets catch up for a drink.

Cheers