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Pete33
02-27-04, 15:01
Guys,

01. Just got hold of this site http://www.korankuning.tk/ , sorry it is mostly in the Indonesian language. Have not tried any one of them.

02. Anybody tried any one of them, please do post your experience.

Steve Thai I
02-27-04, 16:16
Jakarta Boy,

Do all the girls in Indonesia have nipples as big as my thumb or are you just a lucky guy?

From your pics you have included in the postings , it looks like I might decide to start " nursing again ", repeatedly and often.

Hey Sweety, Got Milk ?

Keep those shots / pics of the " big ones" coming .

Steve Thai I

Xapmat
02-27-04, 23:30
JAD,

Coming there in a few weeks and would like you to organise some things for me (us) have you worked out the private mesage thing yet.

Bulai69
02-28-04, 17:34
HI Steve Thai I, I don't think Jakarta Boy was claiming to have taken the photo's himself he was just illustrating what he liked - the photos are from web sites/yahoo clubs. The answer to your question is "no" I think - but that's not a problem for me - they have other benefits well described in this thread. To confirm my point here is a girl I found shopping in Plaza Indonesia recently.

Steve Thai I
02-28-04, 18:11
Bulai69,

Nice photo!

Looks like a real honey, nice face and body also.

I guess that one you snapped a photo of would also do me fine!

Keep up the hunt and pics us all when you find more cuties like this one.

Thanks!

Steve Thai I

Poobah
02-29-04, 04:17
Bulai. Your Ten was really fine. Your two pictures really highlighted the difference between good and bad photography. The first picture was really dark, unflattering and she looked kinda skrunkly.

HOWEVER, the second pic was really cute, showed her body off to good advantage, and really captured something of her personality.

I'm not cracking on you personally because I believe many of us are not the best at taking shots. Plus our equipment sux (only talking about photos here LOL). I've taken some shots with a fairly nice digital that turned out OK, but some that turned out to be crap. How many times has the dude said, "She looked better in person". ABSOLUTELY. I've had some foxes that looked crappy and (much more rarely) had some marginal chicks look very fine.

I'm reading the book "Photographing the Nude". Seems decent but a little light on details. I'd love to move on to shots that capture the chick instead of yet another poorly exposed bed shot.

Xapmat
02-29-04, 06:27
Dear WSG Indonesia Readers / Members

I will be arriving in Jakarta on the 12th of March and be staying for a couple of weeks. I am coming with a colleague and good friend. I worked for some time in Singapore and have been to Jakarta on numerous occasions but not since 1997. I am presuming that some things have changed dramatically since that time and others, perhaps the traffic, have remained terribly unchanged.

I am 36 year old fit emerging technology specialist working for a microsoft consultancy with a legal background, and my buddy is a 27 year old product specialist for an isp. We are coming to have fun and not conduct business just so everyone is aware that we are not expected to walk away with a deal from anyone.

We do however expect to get ourselves into some mischief while in Jakarta, my buddy is a newbie, and I am trying to educate him about the great pleasure, sights and smells of asia. I have spent the last four years working in Japan, prior to that singapore and KL.

We would like to hook up with similar individuals that can point us, show us, give us some inside tips and hopefully save us some time in tracking down action, meeting some good people, and some bad ones as well??

We are an easy going bunch and anticipate paying back the inside knowledge bearer(s) with food, alcohol, honesty and some laughter or a combination of all.

We are reasonably high living guys, work hard play hard that sort of thing, enjoy the finer things, but dont mind, and are looking forward to exploring these places as well as some seedy and edgy ones.

Anything from Cubans and Macallan, to raves and raunchiness.

So if there are any of you that could assist, like meeting new wsg members from Australia, and would enjoy a few (hopefully lots more) cold beverages so we can tap into your knowledge banks please come forward.

Thanks Colin

Bulai69
02-29-04, 16:27
Hi Poobah - thanks for your feedback. Actually the camera I use for recording my "successes" is a very basic totally idiot proof automatic digital one which sometimes has a problem coping with subjects like dark skinned girls on a white sheet in a dark room. Oddly enough this is often the subject I'm faced with. A further excuse is that composition is not usually at the forefron of my mind ! I've had a lot pf PM feedback on my last posting (pi02) which I find suprising because personally I don't rate her (looks) very highly - maybe she looks better in this one ?

Bulai69
02-29-04, 21:20
Poobah - I forgot to ask - when you said "The first picture was really dark, unflattering and she looked kinda skrunkly. " - what does "skrunkly" mean ?! Does she look "skrunkly"on this one ? I can tell you if she has a "skrunkly" problem it's more than compensated for by her other attributes !

Jkt After Dark 2
03-01-04, 03:41
To Jackson,

Sorry for the delay. I just arrived this morning. I just read FAQ on the PM. And it doesn't sound too complicated. I should manage myself. Thank you for facilitating me on the PM.

Cheers,

Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist

Jkt After Dark 2
03-01-04, 03:59
Hi Jakarta Boy,

About the picture you posted, I found something odd.

SMA is an abbrev. of Sekolah Menengah Atas. Means Senior High School. Public high school normally use number, SMA 6, SMA 70, etc. It is a 3 years descipline. Age 16 - 18 yrs. I think many guys have this fantassy.

Yes, you normally find few loose girls in every High School. These are the girls who fuck their seniors or anyone they pleased for any reason/monetary.

Schools have strict rules regarding make-up. To be different and sexy at most they only use black color panties and bras while using white almost see thru mini skirt and shirt. To get the boys' attention. They only use powder and cap stick or gloss. Lipstick and nail polish is strictly prohibited. Your sma19 picture show this girl using nail polish while wearing uniform. I am also under the impression that high school girls are shy in front of camera.

The sheet is too clean and neat. I am sure it is a commercial place. But, from the size and the interior, I am sure it is not the stars one.

I am thinking that these pictures are the work of escort agencies or porn photographer using bar/massage parlour girls and mislead you guys that you are seeing real sma girls. It is a promotional things.

This is just my observation. You don't have to agree on this. No offense. Peace!!!

Cheers,

Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist

Tamurlane26
03-01-04, 16:22
Bulai

A nice pair of legs and a smile to remember - my normal hunting grounds are le Meridien and Batz and always have come up trumps. Right now still have the numbers and they are hot to trot but envious of your selection.

Perhaps we should arrange a transfer market! Bit like fantasy football with a different team on board!

Menteng
03-01-04, 23:21
Hey JAD, what strikes me about SMA21 is the resemblance with Sukma Ayu. Don't you agree? I happened to be in Jkt when the "scandal" occured. It's not her isn't it? Though I've heard, that it is possible to "book" sinetron actresses.

Menteng
03-01-04, 23:27
Hi Bulai!

You keep amazing me! Keep on the good work buddy!
My fav's are the MacDonald girl and Ten02. Hope to join forces again in the future!

Jkt After Dark 2
03-02-04, 04:18
Sukma #1

Jkt After Dark 2
03-02-04, 04:19
Sukma #2

Jkt After Dark 2
03-02-04, 04:20
Sukma #3

Jkt After Dark 2
03-02-04, 04:27
To Menteng,

sma21 doesn't resemble Sukma Ayu. And, yes ... it is possible to book sinetron actresses. But, I have never heard that Sukma is in the line. So ... she is not available. Class A will cost you 35 million for ST. The same amount they make for acting in 1 episode. But, job is not that much. Class B will cost you less than 15 million.

Cheers,

Jakarta After Dark

sukmayu.jpg

Marc69
03-02-04, 10:32
I am not in Jakarta right now but I jumped at JAD's last post : 35 million for ST ?!!!
This is 4000USD+, are you sure you are not mistaken ?
If anyone ever paid this price, let me tell you he is a dummy.
Maybe it is just bragging from the escort agent ?
For USD4000 you can have any major porn actress in Europe, they are not paid that much for 1 scene.
I remember a news story about De Niro flying to France to have one of these girls (and getting arrested !). The newspaper quoted USS2000 for a session, and she was the top star of the moment.
Indonesia is a land of myths and legends...
But after having been asked 4500$/mth for a 150sqm apartment looking over a slum in a notoriously flooded area nothing surprises me.

Marc69
03-02-04, 11:21
Also on the debate about the price of girls/Indonesian Economy :

Indonesia is ranked 149 out 231 of in GDP per capita terms(purchasing power parity adjusted). It is third world country by any criteria. Much lower than Malaysia or Thailand, even lower than Jamaica, Guatemala, Albania...etc.

BMW sell less than 2,500 cars per year in Indonesia against 250,000+ in Germany, 90,000+ in the UK, 50,000+ in Italy. Compare these figures with the population of each country...

There are some extremely wealthy people than will give you a distorted view of the Indonesian economy if you stay in the CBD, Kemang, Pondok Indah...etc. But reality is that the huge majority of the population lives with less than 2$/day.

The monthly minimum salary in Jakarta (more than often not applied) is 670,000rp, and lower in all other cities. Unemployment is 40million+ people...etc

Paying a normal girl 300k for a night should make her very happy. With 2 customers per week she can earn 4 times the minimum salary. This is much better than a sex worker in a developped country who must service several customers everyday to reach the same relative income.

This said every experience is different and "priceless". Spend whatever you want but just keep it real.
This is also for the girl: she can live in dreamland for some time with 100$ a night customers at Bats, then the reality landing is even harder.

Jkt After Dark 2
03-03-04, 04:33
To Peanut Butter,


Nice pic .... Did u fuck these babes....do u still have their contact number..i will love to try them if u can provid me the info...will be in jakarta soon.

Please read the discussion, Jakarta Boy's and Menteng's posting in particular. Pictures were taken using Nokia HP. She is a sinetron actress. These pictures created scandals in Indonesia few weeks ago. The moral lesson of this incident is ... you should delete all your pictures and the girls you [small smile] before you sell or trade it for an upgrade one.

Cheers,

Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist

Bulai69
03-03-04, 21:24
Hi Chalky26 - happy to "trade"if you want to PM me with some numbers - I think you have an idea of the kind of girls I'm interested in ! For avoidance of doubt I'll post a few more shortly! I'm in UK (sadly) but back in JKT in at the month end I hope.

Also I agree with Marc69's economic analysis from which it can be inferred that 300k is a fair price - even if the recipient is working in a shop or hotel on much more than the minimum.

Bulai69
03-03-04, 22:34
I was minding my own business in Starbucks in Plaza Indonesia and I caught this girl's eye - she came over and said "you like massage ?". I said "yes". She replied "with hand or with tongue?". You can guess the rest.

Sapman
03-04-04, 21:46
JAD,

You mentioned on one of your reports that Latina can be found in Jakarta these days. Is this true? Where and what kind of prices?

I'll be going back to Jakarta for good sometime this year after being away for 18 years. Planning to keep my mongering hobby alive over there.

Horne
03-05-04, 01:00
Has anyone ran across this girl (see attached pic)? She works in Jakarta and Bogor. I have a address in Bogor if anyone there is interested.

Horne
03-05-04, 17:30
Pictures for the last post.

Jkt After Dark 2
03-06-04, 06:07
to all ho mongers in jakarta,

i runned a nightlife tour on a good client request last night. we visited stadium but still closed. tuesday 1:00 am around 100 guys equiped with samurai lenght and sharp blades stormed this joint. dark color skin mass. 2 security personnel died on spot. 4 other security personnel and employees are hospitalized on critical conditions. blood every where. brain rep001tered. these perpetrators basically controlled the stage of anarchy. they only went after security personnel and well build staff. they didn't touch any customers. i think 2 more weeks to come as stadium is under renovation now. i has been said that this attact is a revenge one. security personnel beated up one of these guys last sunday.

the tour went smooth. ended with picking up a girl from this racist 150k pick-up joint for 3 hours block. this client is one lucky guy.

cheers

jakarta after dark the born again satanist

Lord Weasel
03-06-04, 13:12
More details below on the Stadium incident from Jakarta Post.

I was thinking of going there that night, but went to D's Place in Block M instead. Looks like one of those life changing decisions I'll remember for a long time.

Lord W

City News - March 03, 2004

Evi Mariani, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Two security guards at Stadium Discotheque in Taman Sari, West Jakarta, were killed and four others injured in a brawl between club employees and hoodlums on Tuesday at about 1 a.m.

Purwanto, 34, died from a gash to his head, while another guard, Munif, 42, died from a fractured skull.

Three other guards -- M. Sofian, Eka Rizal and Sukatanto -- and another club employee, Johan Eldik Purba, were also injured in the brawl. The four suffered stab wounds and were taken to Husada Hospital on Jl. Mangga Besar in Central Jakarta. Their wounds were not considered life-threatening.

Police arrested 21 people in connection with the brawl. Seven are being held at the Jakarta Police Headquarters, while the remaining 14 are detained by the West Jakarta Police.

City police spokesman Sr. Comr. Prasetyo told the press on Tuesday the seven suspects being held at Jakarta Police Headquarters had been declared as the main suspects.

"Our officers have been questioning them to find out who killed the security guards," he said.

According to the police, Tuesday's brawl was sparked by an incident that took place on Sunday morning at the five-story discotheque, located in the entertainment district around Jl. Hayam Wuruk and Jl. Mangga Besar.

"One of the attackers visited the discotheque that night (Sunday) and had a quarrel with the guards. That ended in a fight," Prasetyo said.

The man returned to Stadium on Tuesday with about 50 friends in 10 rented public minivans. Most of the men were carrying knives and other sharp weapons.

The attackers targeted the discotheque's employees, particularly the security guards. After the attack, they immediately fled the scene.

Lord Weasel
03-06-04, 13:41
I've been lurking on the sidelines of this forum for a few weeks now and I think it was about time I contributed.

Martika Report:

I went to this place with JAD as part of one of his tours, it closed just as we got there but at least I got to find out where it was. I went back about a week later in the late afternoon. I went in, and the 1st thing that strikes you is just how dark in there it is. During daylight it takes a good 30 seconds for you to be able to tell the men from the girls. I got approached by 2 or 3 who said hello, but didn't engage in any conversation, and a couple who used the hands on method of introduction. I ignored them all and decided to order a drink. This gave me enough time to look around in more comfort and make eye contact with the prospects that were in the room. There would have been about 30 to choose from ranging from about 3 to maybe 7. I was the only bule I saw in there. I eventually chose a slim thing called Nina, who indroduced herself quite formally with a hand shake and engaged in at least acouple of minutes amout of small talk in english. I decided that her english atributes gave her the edge. The mamosan also encouraged a transaction to take place. I paid rp275 to the mamosan and was escorted upstairs. The room was reasonably scruffy with a tiled floor, a bath, and a vinyl bed. I was then asked to strip and wash, which I natrually complied with. Nini did the same. Once naked she then offered me option for a friend to join us which, seemed interesting, but as this was my 1st experience here I declined. (but made a note to self for future refrence). She then proceded to wash every inch of me on the bed, using every inch of herself as a cleaner. This for me was a totally new and interesting experience. She then did a rather pleasant CBJ, and FS on me. This I wasn't expecting as JAD had lead me to believe that massage and HJ or CBJ was all that was likely to be on offer. We then cleaned ourselves up in the bath and I was asked for rp300k by her. "I must pay now" she said. This also caught me a little by surprise as I had expected the rp275 I paid the mamosan would cover things. I didn't negiociate or argue and out came the wallet. The whole box and dice lasted maybe 45 mins. All in all a pleasant experience and I'll probably go back. But I'd like advice on the price was the 300K reasonable and normal?

Lord Weasel
03-06-04, 14:10
D's Place report. – Block M

I have to admit I've grown to like this place. It has wall to wall pussy on show for most of the evening every time I've been there thanks to the ladies lucky number draw every couple of hours each evening. It has the sanctuary of downstairs if you want to play pool or just hang out and brag about your golfing prowess, or lack of it.

I have taken 3 different girls back to the hotel on the several times I have visited here.
I played pool for several hours on my 1st visit and ended up buying a heap of drinks and making donations of 10k for “taxi money” to several over 40’s I was playing with. If you are new there I found it useful to have a wad of small change on you for such occasions.

The girlies:

"Hilda" for a ST. She was a real bore in bed, she just lay there and thought of Indonesia. Gave her rp350 taxi money after a couple of hours. I wouldn't go there again, she claims she has a Dutch boyfriend now who is taking her on a tour of Indonesia for a couple of weeks or so. He's welcome to her.

"Nini" for a ST and a LT. This one has learnt her English in bars and has a limited command of English. She'll tell you all about her German boyfriend Mario, and what a shit he is if you giver her the chance. For her I was all business, but she really put on an excellent and convincing GFE act. She is an absolute minx in the sack and I'd rate her as 8.5 to 9 for attitude and service. 7 for looks. one of the best 69's I've ever had the pleasure to indulge in. I’ve given rp300 for the ST and rp350 for the LT.

"Johanna", is Nini's friend and I took her back the night before last for a LT. We engaged in really intelligent conversation for several hours in the bar and she really invested a lot of time in me to get me back to the hotel. Full marks to her for trying so hard. In the sack, I'd only rate her about a 5. She's very enthusiastic, and passionate and loves her work but didn't want to try oral of any kind and lacks imagination. I have a feeling that I may have some issues next time I visit as I've had time with both of them now. rp350

All in all I love D’s place. I can have the at least partial thrill of the chase even though the winning is a sure thing. You have a heap to choose from, all shapes, sizes and ages. Beer prices are reasonable there and they take AMEX to settle your bar bill. One point to note though is avoid the taxis just outside and walk to the end of the street by the bus station to get your transport. Also note that if you are going there just after office hours the Transjakarta bus way has a terminal station right at the end of the street and it saves a heap of time in busy traffic.

Bulai69
03-06-04, 19:48
Hi Lord Weasel - good long reports. One point you mention prompts me to issue a "warning": you mention D's place taking Amex. well some care is required as the following tale demonstrates. A few months ago when I arrive back in UK I tried to fill my car and my Amex card was rejected. I phoned Amex and they said " how come you''re buying petrol when you've just bought £500.00 worth of furniture in Blok M Pasar Raya 3 hours ago?" . In summary my card was cloned - almost certainly in D's. The same thing happened to me at JJ's a couple of years ago. Fortunately Amex stood the loss on this occasion but I don't think they are contractually obliged to do so. I never use plastic unless I'm stuck in these places.

Just to get back "on topic", here is picture of the girl I picked up when my card got cloned - nothing to do with her I hasten to add

Lord Weasel
03-07-04, 02:12
I do have a question for the forum.

My time here is begining to come to an end and I may have a week off at the end to tour round the place a bit.

I'd like to take a guide with me for a few days to help me translate things, find my way around and do the bartering. Oh and she could keep me warm at night too, just as a bonus.

What would be a reasonable amount to pay for that type of service?

Would it be charged by the day?

Should I just take her shopping and blow a few $ on her?

Gray Seal
03-07-04, 03:12
Hello friends,

I have already spent four nights in Jalarta and enjoyed sex with five girls from five different places. Every girl was satisfactory because I had chosen them among many other girls at eac place.

The cost was between 155 k to 400 k. An amazing fact is that even though you can speak no Bahasa language, you can get girls here if you have some tips on how to do that.

I thank JAD for his qualified night tour, which I took in the third night of my stay. I enjoyed various places he took me and conversation with him. The density of the tour was so much concentrated that I got to know the wide spectrum of night life in Jarta, which enables me to select any mode of play that I want in the future. I am glad to know that Jakarta is really "a disney land for adults" as you describes.

I thank again for friends in this forum who proviede me various kinds of information on this interesting city. Without them, I would have spent lonely nights here.

Good luck!

John Aldrich
03-07-04, 08:14
Bulai 69,

You are absoultely right. I guess this is a major problem in most developing countries. I was in the UK the end of last year. Had to make a trip to India and then back to the UK. I stayed in a 5 star hotel in Madras. Paid by my card, an AMEX, issued in Jakarta. Was back in Swansea and 15 days later, I had dinner and paid by Amex and the payment was rejected. The reason was I was had just bought jewellery worh GBP 550 about a couple of hours back in Madras. Amex picked up that tab. But if I would have been paying the bill the next day, I guess Amex would never pick up the tab. Just saw a report in the CNN, as to how zoom cameras are fitted in some stores to capture the details on a card in Jakarta and how deftly the store girl transmits the message to the camera, while she is swiping it. And the target is a an International credit card not issued in Indonesia.

Bulai69
03-07-04, 21:20
John, message is clear - always pay cash !

In answer to Lord Weasel's question about getting a girl "guide" - this is something I've done a few times when I've had time and found a suitable girl. Actually it's usually been reactive in my case - ie I haven't gone out to look for one I've just retained the girl for 2 or 3 days having found her. If I was pro-actively seeking such an arrangement I would definitely go for a reasonably up-market "amateur" the like of which can be found in shopping malls like PS or PI. That's my recommendation to Lord Weasel. Any girl you pick up in a bar would certainly be delighted to stay with you for an arrangement like you describe but if you took her shopping etc you would find yourself funding a feeding frenzy of buying everything in sight !

If you find a suitable girl I would suggest that a budget of 1 million to 1.5 million for 2 or 3 days (and nights !) would be reasonable/generous. On that basis it's equivalent to to 300 - 500k a night which is what you would pay in cash for reasonable girls. The only point I would make is that you are unlikely to find a girl who can take you to places (eg decent restaurants) you don't know yourself as there is no way they could afford to go themselves.

Here is photo of a girl I found in Plaza Indonesia with whom I enjoyed exactly the arrangement above. One benefit I should add is that you can indulge a few fantasies like buying the kind of clothes you like to see them in (see picture of same girl in next post).

Bulai69
03-07-04, 21:24
refer to previous post on clothes buying !

Lord Weasel
03-08-04, 14:56
Last night tried 2 places which were new to me. - I'll do 2 postings for clarity.

First was TC.

There have been plenty of postings about how to find this place top of the escalator on level 2 as you enter Lokasari Plaza. Or round to the left and walk adjasent to the ramp that is the exit to the carpark. Turn in by a toilet and walk next to the yellow wall. enter a little aclove where there is a lift, a set of stairs and a hand phone stall. It's really dark once you get in and the mamosan(s) speak good english but the girls don't. The cover charge is 20K but includes your 1st drink.

I picked Evi, I used a pen and paper to have a painfully slow conversation with her using pictures. I kind of wanted to know at least a little about her. Everybody around us found it quite amusing and I attracted a bit of a crowd.

I figured she was from Jawa and had been in Jakarta about a month. She calimed she was 19.

When she was conversing with me she had an expression like she had a bad smell under her nose. It was really hard work to get a smile out of her. Took some prompting from the Mamosan (who got 20K for her translation assistance, and she used her phone as a torch.) to get her to engage with me. I said "yes lets do it" and was lead into the back regions of the place. I parted with 200K and spent spent maybe 50 minutes in a missionary position with something about as exciting as a dead fish. A blow up doll would have had more imagination. The only thing that was remotely interesting was she had the body of a goddess and not a hair on her from the kneck down. She asked for a tip, I agve her with 100K which was the first time I got a smile out of her since we met and I got a peck on the cheek for my troubles.

All in all, I hated the place, way too loud for my liking, and got a crap experience. I may try it again during the daytime but in the evenings I reckon there are better places.

One thing that's kind of hard though is that you tend to have a habit of rating aplace by the quality of the girl you choose given the circumstances in which you have to make a choice. There's always a bit of luck involved there and I guess 2 or 3 visits would be needed to make a fair judgement.

One tip, as you walk towards the lokasari plaza from the place where the Joki drop you off there are a row of kiosks on the LHS. One of them is a chemist. They sell the triple thick pirelli type durex for 9k for 3. I made an investment in a set since I'd read so many bad things about TC and your abiility to catch something that may make ones dick explode the following day.

Lord Weasel
03-08-04, 15:27
Next new place was above form TC at a place called Millies - Executive Club.

Enter near to the lifts that support TC and go to the 8th floor of the car park.

20K cover charge, but again it covers your 1st drink. The first thing you notice about the place is that it's huge, on 3 or 4 levels at least. There is a substantial stage, with the DJ set into the middle of it and a girl dancer that changes about every 20 minutes above him. The other thing is that this place is god damn loud. I mean really loud, you could wake the dead on the moon with the bass this place pumps out. Not only that but the speakers are everywhere so there’s nowhere to go to escape it.

I went in and just kind of hung around for about 5 minutes just allowing my eyes to become accustomed to the place. I was then grabbed on the elbow by a nice looking chic who was at a table I was stood next to. She was in a group with 3 guys and 3 girls. With me I broke up the 1:1 ratio. One of them gave me a drink, a kind of sweet beer I didn’t recognise at all. With all the noise conversation was impossible but I did figure out the girl who grabbed me was called Johanna and her English was quite good. The ration of guys to girls in the whole room was maybe 2 or 3 to 1. I bought a jug of the is sweet beer for the table (137K, receipt said Guinness, but didn’t taste remotely like the stuff) which got me a tongue dance from Johanna. She then untied herself from the indo guy on my right and essentially danced with me most of the night either on the dance floor, in my chair or next to the table. Occasionally she gave the guy some attention, but mostly at was all about me. One of the other girls asked me for some cash to buy a drink after she also gave me a bit of a mauling while Johanna was at the toilet and giving the other guy a snog in the corridor. If you are finding this a bit confusing with her jumping between me and him, well then welcome to my world. I gave miss drink requester 50K which seemed to be enough to get her to stop asking anymore. The evening went on like this with Johanna’s incessant flirting with me. I was having a whale of a time.

However then came the bad bit. I think this is potentially the worst situation I have gotten myself into since I arrived here several weeks ago. First of all she gave me a piece of chewing gum, which she unwrapped for me and stuffed into my mouth. Well I’m not a big fan of gum but went with the flow. Once it was flavourless I put it into the ash tray. Then about 20 minutes later at about 2 am she put another piece into my mouth. Except this time it wasn’t gum. It was a broken tablet of some kind. It tasted like a coffee bean and before I realised any better I’d swallowed it. I was mildly drunk and didn’t fully figure out the gravity of my situation for about 10 mins. It hit me like a train when she suggested going back to my hotel to continue the party. (alone with her or as a group I didn’t find out) I figured it could have been something to knock me out and once I left the place I’d be screwed.

I asked her what it was and she told me a vitamin tablet. Yer right. It could have been “E” but I’ve never taken anything like that ever before so I had no idea what to expect. So, I said I’m going to the toilet, but diverted as soon as I got near to the exit and ran for it. I managed to get a taxi really quickly back to the hotel, where I just lay down and waited for what ever it was to kick in. Fortunately it didn’t seem to affect me in any way I was able to appreciate, I went to sleep in about 20 mins and the ringing in my ears stopped about lunch time today. I guess I learnt I was getting complacent about my personal security when I’m on my own late at night. I don’t think I be going back.

John Aldrich
03-08-04, 18:51
This evening at around 7 pm I was in pasar festival in the handicrafts shop buying some stuff. I was trying to check the rate and the sales girl did not understand what I was telling in English. There was this stunner who was there volunteered to translate and I thanked her. Coincidentally both of us came out at the same time and she started asking as to where I was from. I introduced myself and asked her out for a fruit tea at the tea stall there. She came in. And we lit a cigarette and as we were sipping the drink, I asked her if she would like to join me for a drink and she said yes. I did not waste time. We went to Amigos at setiabudi II and realised that we were the only 2 sitting there. Offered her Gin tonic and as I having my Bacardi Cola, she said she was working for Yopie in Pondok Indah. She was about 165 cms, extremely fair, manado type of skin. I just gathered courage and asked her out to spend the evening in the privacy of a room. She agreed and I did not again waste time. Was off to Menteng II. Checked in. Extremely good in the bed. Her name is Sena. I have the phone numbers.PM me in case any of you guys want to try. I did give her taxi money. As I pulled out the money from the Valet, 500K came out. I just gave it to her. But was nice value for money.

No_Commit
03-09-04, 06:38
i was in jakarta for 3 weeks recently and wanted to share experiences with you guys.

pick up bars: almost all bars are pick up joints in jakarta. let's start from the top. bats at shangri-la imho caters for short term visiting businessmen who can't be bothered to look for gems. girls here are mostly hardened pro sharks, some sulking girls who look awfully attractive who can't be bothered with anyone else but their dates, piranhas, leeches, and scalp hunters. the place has a cover charge and drinks can cost an arm and leg. for new guys, maybe worth a visit to check the place out but this joint is not on my hit list anymore. cj's at mulia's imho is a better version of bats. the place is packed most of the nights with quickie girls who would get out of there and into your bed within 3 minutes, a few [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), butterflies, amateurs, and tag teams (besides the sharks, and piranhas of course). you still have to pay cover and drinks are still expensive but literally you have to have a stick to fend off the chicks. i would go back to mulia's next time i am in jakarta. jj's is another good place. but more like a meat shop than a pick up bar. after 2, the place gets packed up with non-taken pros. be sure you are still sober at this time or you may end up with a girl whose expiry date has long past. beware of your tab; the waitresses have a tendency to "miscalculate". better pay up at every round. tanamour's next door apparently only opens up during the weekends so i could not sample that place. but would be exactly like jj's i would imagine. the best of all is tiga pulu (30's club) at le meridien. no cover charge. expensive drinks. excellent band. the place is more laid back and not as crowded as other places. girls are same in style but less in numbers. don't know why but this place ranks highest on my scale. perhaps because i pulled out the best chick here.

blok m: this is an institution, which deserves a separate topic. i have been to d's place, everest, topgun and bali hai. all bars here are quite laid back with loads of chicks that are eager to come and please you. visit this place if you haven't.

girls: indo girls are petite built. they have the smoothest skins. it is just like silk. there are not too many over weight ones. and you should be extremely unlucky to run across a starfish. almost all i tasted were very enthusiastic spinners. i especially love their bee stung angelina jolie type puffy lips. lol. asking prices range from 300k rupiah to 800k rupiah (only at bats). however, most i paid for an overnighter was 400k. 80% are happy with 300k.

eateries: a good meal always turns me on. that is why i wanted to include restaurants in the fr as well. best steak dinner is definitely at park lane hotel's styx bistro/night club. unfortunately, it is not a cheap experience but trust me on this one, you haven't eaten a steak like this north of oz. another good place is cs at grand hyatt. but beware this place is outrageously expensive and not for the faint hearted. however, a good venue if you are on an expense account. you can also try the kelt's bar at gran melia. the place has a nice atmosphere, a live band, and good pizzas. i am sure many will also enjoy their nz oysters as much as i did. chili's surprisingly was way under par and not recommended. you can also try the fredo's greek taverna opposite side of panpac hotel. sorry can't be specific about the address but it is located on the first floor of an office building and has a blue sign. the food unfortunately is mediocre to good but fredo is a good host and he makes his ouzo at home (yes my eyes are still ok). however, the best dinner event i attended was a network function i was invited at an embassy. i won't disclose which one but will say it is a regular event every month. i have also enjoyed many lunches and dinners in food courts. especially plaza indonesia food court offers many good choices at low prices.

bottomline is jakarta is a very fun place to be and after the recent 3in1 and bus route regulations, traffic has improved greatly. hotels are reasonable price, there are loads of places to have fun and you will never feel lonely. if the clamp down in thailand continues, and indonesia becomes more stable, this place could very well be the next land of smiles!!! i loved jakarta…

Bulai69
03-09-04, 20:51
No_Commit - you obviously spent your time well in JKT and got a good accurate view of the situation ! I agree with everything you said especially regarding BATS, 30 Bar and CJ's. Just a point on CJ's - I've found it gets so busy (esp Friday & Saturday) that you can stay in there for ages and never see all that's available. What I find far more productive is lurking around the foyer and catching them going in (which suits them as they avoid the expensive entrance fee). If it's after midnight, you can get them coming out but the standard may not be so good of course as the best ones will have gone. Here is one I found on the way out however; form your own views

Zero
03-11-04, 07:26
Guys,
I will visit jakarta soon.
My company would give me Sari Panpacific hotel.
Any good action there?
Thank you

Bulai69
03-11-04, 22:02
Zero - I've not found much action at the Sari Pan Pacific. The Health Centre is not too good and the club downstairs is nowhere near as good as 30bar, BATS or CJ. Outside in the street is popular with lady boys at night so look out for that ! The good news is you can walk to HRC and it's near, by taxi, to most places described in the forum

Jkt After Dark 2
03-14-04, 04:07
SUMO SHIATSU: KELAPA GADING

Saturday, March 13, 2004. It was 3:30 p.m. when I arrived at Crowne Plaza. I was 30 minutes late that afternoon. Actually, I left home early. But I took the wrong road. Traffic created by political party mass and heavy rain held me back for some time.

I came to that hotel to pick-up Grey Seal as agreed the night before. That day was the second time. I had a client who took the tour for 8 times in different trips. Anyway, this guy is full of energy. He just arrived from Taman Safari, Puncak at 1:30 p.m. And now he is ready for another cruise within the city.

Gray Seal wanted a very good massage. It has been said that certain nationals are fun of good hard massage. After checking the prices and asked for his consent, I decided to take him to Sumo Shiatsu, another Raja Group sin establishment. I got lost several time in Kelapa Gading area. I only went to this joint once before. I took the street direction advice from a friend who is already at Sumo. I got a bit confused. We lost for a while. But, we manage to go there. Actually, I know the area. If only my friend just directed me thru the street I know which he tought too complicated. I might reached there 30 minutes earlier.

Gray Seal wanted spicy food and cool beer. He has learned Padang Resto don't serve beer. At least this was his experience. We went to Menado resto. He is not fun with sweet food. But, it was already closing. So I decided to take him to Jimbani instead. He had his Balinese Steamed Chicken with special chilly paste and of course a mug of cool beer. I guessed the house is too noisy for him so we decided to go. The bill is quite expensive. On our way back to the hotel, we cruised along Jalan Falatehan to do Expat Pick-Up Bar window shopping. We also cruised along the block at the back of Hotel Melawai to do Japanese Resto and KTV Karaoke window shopping. Lastly, we cruised around Jalan Mahakam and Bulungun to do Street Line Up window shopping. Then we went straight to the hotel. Total experience was fun and daring somehow. The only draw back was the cost was beyond my calculation. Never happened to me before. But in service industry sometime things just don't go as you plan.

Oke, back to Sumo. I saw one Caucasian guy at the lobby. But, I didn't mind him. We took the locker keys and put all our clothes and belonging there. We passed the gymnasium, sauna, hot and cool pools, and other facilities. We went straight to the restaurant to seat and checked out the girls.

There are 2 types of girls. The girls in the restaurants are for full service only. Just like in other bordellos, they don't do massage. The house has local girls, Mainland Chinese and selected Asian nationals, and Caucasian, mainly Russians and Uzbeks. The other collection ... you can choose by picture. Their service starts with basic massage. Full service and body massage are available with some extra fee. But they all are structured fees.

Grey Seal opted the last one. I think somehow there was a miscommunication in the room, girls tend to sell upgraded service to earn more, and he took body massage service. It turned out he tried to call me several times but I didn't hear the ring. Accident happens. Value for money wise, everything he paid should commensurate what he got but it was not a plan one.

We met again at the restaurant. He told me the miscommunication things. But he said it was a very sensual one. Using oil not water and soap like in Kartika. When I asked him whether he had a good massage or good massage. He said,"good massage!" :)

Ha ha ha. Grey Seal is a funny guy. Sometime it is not that easy for me to understand all clients. But, I always try. I think it is bias for me to describe any further. Please ask Grey Seal about his opinion and experience on the pricing, quality of the girls, the "service", the service, and the facilities instead.

Cheers

Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist

Tom Catter
03-14-04, 10:50
Hi Everone,

Will be visiting Jakarta for the first time. I am staying at the Gran Melia hotel. I read through most of the posts but found little info on this hotel. Can anyone tell me if this is a good location and if there is any action in or around the hotel? Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Bulai69
03-14-04, 21:32
Tom - regarding Gran Melia - it's a good hotel but it's not noteworthy for the kind of action you are looking for in the hotel itself. You will certainly be able to get massage in your room from the hotel health club. I've not stayed there but it;'s bound to be the same as all the other big hotels where I've stayed over the years. You are likely to able to get anything from HJ to FS but the girls are often quite old and always ask ludicrous prices. You are very close by taxi (which cost next to nothing) to all the better bars in the big hotels which you can read about in here. Also close to the main big malls like Plaza Senayan and Plaza Indonesia where you can pick up girls too in the day time and early evening (they stay open until 10pm).

MarkIII
03-20-04, 11:24
Street walkers.

Where can I find street walkers? Last time I looked arround the Monas and Mangga Besar. and other area's(streets)? I have my own car so transport is no problem, only finding the way back; -).

Greetings,

Mark

Menteng
03-21-04, 14:26
Hi Mark,

The only ones I know are at Jalan Bulungan, behind Blok M Plaza after 21.00 pm and around hotel Mahakam, in the same neighbourhood. I'm sure other mongers can add more places. Be carefull though around Hotel Mahakam. You may encounter shemales.

Blixer
03-22-04, 19:04
Hi Everone,

I will be in Jakarta next april for the very first time. My intention is to go to 5 star hotels such as Hyatt or Hilton. Are they far from Blok M and other interesting places? Are they a good locations There is any action in the hotel? Please make me happy.. it's my pleasure trip this year!

Thanks

Johnny Jets
03-23-04, 10:40
Five star hotel bars proved ok for me.

Arrived at 10:00pm there were four girls about 20-25 years old playing poker for small amounts of money. I sat near them and two of them kept turning and smiling and was just about to invite one over, when a women on her own said to me “can I sit with you.”

She had been at the other end of the bar when I arrived, as she was a little bit older, better looking and better dressed than the other four I said yes.

She spoke excellent English and said she comes here about every two weeks and said she was nervous. So I said, "me to" (self depreciation usually works well) and could I buy her a drink so she could get to know me and therefore would be more relaxed.

This worked and we got on well. She said all night and that would be US$200, yeah right. I kept refusing until the price was reasonable and we went to my room.

Shower, bbbj, and good sex, she had a great body.

Enjoying a good sleep when her phone rang and she said she had to take her kids to a doctor. Too tired and happy to argue so she left.

Bulai69
03-24-04, 00:27
Hi Blixer - 5 star hotels are OK but I suggest you look back through the forum to see reports because the two you've mentioned are not top of my list for action. The Hyatt is the best of the two (in terms of location to stay) mainly because its part of a large mall (Plaza Indonesia) where you can pick up girls during the day. Better hotels for action in the hotel itself, in my experience, are Shangri-La, Mulia and Meridien. See attached picture (Meridien)

HRC
03-25-04, 03:29
Hi fellow mongers,

During my first visit to Jakarta I spent one week in Shangri-la. Obviously, because of the location, the easiest choice for me was to go to BATS. However, I went there only twice. The first night that I went there, ended up with a nice 26yo lady who works in Citibank. Had a great time talking to her and it was fun flirting, but, at the end, was just an average fuck. Gave her 300,000.

Second night, I decided to try something different and went to Tiara Ciara. Made a mistake of letting go the taxi cab driver, as I had tough times getting a fair price on the way back from Lokasari Plaza. Anyway, the place is difficult to find. I suggest first find the Executive Club (by the entrance of which I saw some very good-looking ladies) and then turn a corner and use the stairway of the garage. TC is fairly dark place with no one speaking decent English. I do not speak a word in Bahasa, so it was a difficult negotiation. To my surprise, most of the ladies there were fairly good looking but very (I mean very young). I picked a girl named Lisy, who on the napkin wrote that she was 19. Very good experience. Tight body, great blowjob, followed by rimming and finished with an entusiastic fuck. At the end, good experience, but I decided not to go back because of a suspicious age of ladies there and difficult communication without knowledge of Bahasa. Total damage was 220,000.

Third day I decided to try massage parlors. After reading this forum chose to go to Berlian hoping to get an anal. This time took Sliver Bird and ask to wait for me. Mamasan was friendly and spoke some English. There were about 10 ladies seating in the lounge. I chose Nini, tall girlried with a fair skin. The massage was a bit strange, but enjoyable. After she started sliding her body on top of me, I couldn't last more than five minutes and got to business. Blowjob was good - she really took her time. We fucked in multiple positions until I blew my load. I asked about anal, she said no. Total damage was 225,000.

On the third night, came back late from negotiations and had to get up early next day. So I had to go for something fast and reliable. Chose to try the Stadium. Same as before, took Silver Bird. When I got there, didn't really know where to go - the third or the forth floor. Decided to start with the fourth. Immediately got approached by mamasan who showed me a selection of girls. I took my time. Talked to some 30 hardcore prostitute who looked like 30+ but promised me anyhing that I wanted. Just when I was about to go to the third floor, I noticed a pettite and very sexy girl. Couldn't resist to try her. Her name is Lisa and she was a terrific fuck - very tight pussy and she managed to play with her thigh muscles - pretty interesting experience. Btw, I really liked the rooms in Stadium - much better compared to TC. We did it twice and, if not for nights before, I would've gone for more. Total damage was 330,000.
On Thursday night, I decided to try Tiga Puluh in Le Meridien. It was ladies night and the place was packed with all sorts of women. Ended up with Hera, relatively tall and good looking girl. The expreince was mixed though. Although we agreed for the whole night, I let her go after the first fuck. She was very business like and that's not what I expected from a girl picked up in a upscale hotel. Plus, she was expensive compared to my previous experience- gave her 550,000.

On friday went with my business partners to CJ's. I really liked that place - great environment with a good band. There were a lot of ladies but, because it was Friday, too many guys as well. Felt uncofortable picking a girl in front of colleagues, so I left siting that I was tired. Instead, took a cab to Tanamur. I was not impressed with that place. I guess, it had already seen its good days. The good thing is that beer was really cheep there. Noticed a very sexy girl dancing on the floor. After an eye contact she approached me. To my great disappointment, I found out that she was a dancer employed by the club. She begged me to stay and wait for her until 5!? I was already tired, so I just left her my cell number and wnet back to the hotel. Around 7am I got a call from her. I asked her to show up in my hotel by lunch time. We had a lunch and I really enjoyed talking to her - she is really a sweet girl. We went back to my room and did what we wanted to do. Unfortunately, her tiredness started showing its signs (she was barely awake at that time) and I sent her back giving 250,000.

The last night, I decided not to go anywhere, but stick to my hotel. Went downstairs to BATS without really having an agenda. There were plenty of offers, but didn't really want to take on any of them. Suddenly, I spotted a stunner. I mean the lady was gorgeous. She was in a company of friends, but I didn't care - I had to try my luck. Went straight up to her and she brushed me off. I retreated but kept her in my sight. Went to the dance floor when she was there and my persistence was rewarded - she danced with me and then we had a drink with her friends. Everybody were pretty cool. We spent nearly three hours talking and when BATS was about to close, she said that she was planning to continue clubbing with her friends. I asked her to stay with me expecting that she would bruch me off again. It was my last night in Jakarta and I felt I had to have her. To my surprise, she said ok, but US$100. I was a bit shocked. She said take it or leave it. Guess what? I took it and never regreted. I know that some people in the forum night accuse me of bringing the prices up, but she was worth every cent of it. It was one of the best lays that I've had. I took her contact info and hope to see her again when I come back to Jakarta next month.

To summarize, it was a great trip. Indonesian women are great. Personally, I definitely prefer them to Thais and Filipinas.

Cheers

Bulai69
03-26-04, 02:19
Hi HRC - a good report, you certainly seem to have found your way around ! All the decent girls in BATS ask for $100. and yes it's a crazy price but like you I've paid it sometimes - especially on a last night ! I think I know "Hera" - I posted a picture a few weeks ago, did you see it ? I picked her up in CJ's but she fits your description.

Zero
03-26-04, 09:48
Guys,
I went to Jakarta from time to time,
but while i'm there, there's no much time to spend for hunting.
So, any suggestion of a sure thing?
I like the Health club setting or massage better than CJ and such
1001 malam also interested but I think if i went there by myself would look silly
Thank you
Cheers!

Bulai69
03-26-04, 12:59
Zero - there is no shortage of "sure things" in Jakarta! If you have time constraints and you want 100% certainty of pretty well anything with attractive girls, somewhere easy to find, low risk & reasonable cost then my recommendation is 6th floor Hotel Melawai in Blok M. There are many reports on this in the forum.

A more up-market alternative is Oasis in Gatot Subruto - I've posted about this too so if you are interested you could look back for the posting. Good luck, not that much luck is required !

Bulai69
03-27-04, 18:19
Has anyone tried Las Vegas (kareoke) in Citibank building in Setia Budi (Sudirmann)? I went there with my friend Menteng but we didn't "take part" in any proceedings just checked on price and quality - both high - the former too high ! Nevertheless I'd like to hear if anyone has tried it. It occurs to me I might be able to get it through as a business expense - the UK government have massively increased taxation on one-shareholder business (like me) and the only way to get round it is to spend more on "business expenses" which of course require a receipt. Another way is to earn less I suppose.

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HRC
03-29-04, 03:07
Bulai69,

I read most of your reports, but the girl in question (Hera) is different. I met her the next day in the lobby of Shangri-la. So, I guess, her area of work is in major hotels. Wouldn't be surprised that major contributors to the forum had seen her at some point. Next time, I'll try not to forget to use the camera. Btw, I should be back in Jakarta next month. Do you have any recommendations on other places in the city where I could hook up with good looking ladies speaking some English?

TheWad
03-29-04, 16:32
OKay,

So I've been away from Jakarta for two years and I'm eagerly anticipating my return. The problem is I'll be staying with friends so all action will need to be in massage parlours. I'm landing late (around 9:30pm) and would love to get some quick action before arriving at my friends place. Does anyone know what time 6th floor closes or any other establisment that might serve my needs?

Thanks.

Bulai69
03-29-04, 19:43
HRC - Apart from the major hotel bars, well documented in the forum, my recommendation is shopping malls. This takes a bit more time but you can be certain of finding an excellent girl in say half a day. "Targets" are the salesgirls and (some of) the customers. If you sit in cafes and coffee shops you will find "amateurs" looking for men to meet. The important point is that they will not make themselves too obvious but if you approach them politely you will not get rebuffed and at least 50% will arrange to see you later. I spent half a day in PS with my friend Menteng (fellow WSG contributor) and we "collected" four (out of four attempts). A different "sector" altogether is the lower down the market bar/disco scene. EG, JJ's, Tanamour, Stadium etc. If you are fairly new to JKT you might be better avoiding these unless you go with someone familiar with them. Apart from anything else you may have a language problem. Also at least 2 of these have been raided by nutters wielding machetes recently ! If you look back you'll see my postings of girls I've found in malls. Here is another one you might find in Sarinah

Bulai69
03-29-04, 19:51
The Wad - not sure about 6th floor I've not been that late but a place that definitely is open is Hotel Indonesia "health centre". I should add that the quality is VERY variable - I've been a few times and found girls from 1 - 9 so be prepared to walk out. Just another point - if you are stuck with a colleague who not so enlightened as you (I've had this problem) why not also book into a cheap but OK hotel (eg IBIS or similar)? This opens up a much wider field of activity - bars, clubs, mall hunting etc. Given the scope for this I think it's worth it - if you are working maybe you can claim it on your expenses ! When they make the bill out ask them to write "meeting room", "conference" or something !

Lord Weasel
03-30-04, 00:31
Security:

Is anybody taking any special care during the election period.?

Any places to specifically avoid?

Any activity I should curtail for the next couple of weeks?

Tamurlane26
03-30-04, 01:35
IBIS is very reasonable around US45 per night incl breakfast and is only 10 minutes from Batz at night - also only 20 minutes from the airport as it is directly on the toll road - therefore allowing freedom of movement and more expenses to be spent on activity rather than on lodging.

In respect of bringing in girls to the room they dont care - the bar is tedious and have not seen much action there so you would do well not to waste time there unless meeting someone.

Re the language would agree that Tanamour and JJ"s etc are for those who speak more of the local lingo especially as there have been visits by some "amusing" characters. Batz/CJ's/30 are all easily available and accessible and also provide ready at hand fun - dont be conned on the price though as figures of USD100+ will be bandied around - much more fun is finding someone in the mall by being "ignorant" and "lost" and then proceeding from there.

Happy Hunting

Haole
03-30-04, 05:06
Great info from Bulai and others on the scene in Jakarta.

I would like to post an adventure I had about two years ago in Jakarta.

My friend (a Singaporean) and I went to the Millenium Disco. After about an hour I hit on a tall, slim, "Britney Spears" looking (with black hair) hotty. I asked her back to my hotel and she agreed, but asked me if her friend could accompany us. No problem!

Back at the room (Hotel Ciputra) we took a shower and jumped onto the bed. Went through several positions, with her friend watching and smoking.

After about 15 minutes I looked over at her friend and could see her breathing hard. I asked her to join us. She immediately stripped and jumped on the bed and stuck one of her breasts in my mouth.

I pulled out of Girl #1, moved her aside, and and started in on Girl #2. She was so hot I thought I would lose it right away! She then started strong hip thrusts, and I finished within a minute.

When they were ready to go, we negotiated payment--my Singaporean friend came over to the room as I do not speak Bahasa.

Girl #2 wanted a piece of the payment because she "completed things." So each got 100,00 rp.

As most have written in this thread, Jakarta continues to amaze and please!

Prosal
03-30-04, 15:51
Guys, some questions about bars/clubs :

Last time i was in Jakarta (April 2003) , Tiga Puluh was on weekdays half-full with very average pros and quite boring (compared to 2002 when Bats was closed and TP packed to the walls) but better on Fridays/Saturdays ; Curiously Bats was going much better than it was during the last few years (thanks to the band) and CJs was good as ever, specially on Wednesday and Sundays nights ; Retro was still very good on the Wednesdays ladies nights as on Fridays nights, Manhattan interesting but not so busy, and De Leila was a amazing outsider. Burgundy, Cinnabar and Manna Lounge had often too much attitudes, as Embassy and Musro (but with sometimes some very interesting model-type talents to meet), and Salsa in Kemang was not as good as before. Styx was not worth a regulary visit, and JJ as Blok M joints like Ds, Oscar or Lintas were definitively becoming hardcores pros nests (too bad, JJ having been my all-time fav in the mid/late 90's).

But things changing VERY fast in JKT, does any JKT expert know about the current bars/clubs situation, what are today the best freelancers spots in South Jakarta, does Tiga Puluh goes better, how are CJs (does the band with the Greek singer came performing back ?) and Retro, any particular Ladies nights or busy night in any of those clubs ? (please note i'm not asking about the regulars hippe clubs like Centro, or about North JKT clubs which are not my scene, even if they are a must on week-ends !!)

Thanks in advance, any advice will be useful for next trip (August/September) ;

Pro

Bulai69
03-30-04, 20:38
Poturu - Chalky26 has answered your question about IBIS, I fully agree with his other points too. In fact there are some other IBIS hotels in JKT too, also Mercure (same chain). Best to look on net, maybe expedia will show them. You can negotiate lower rates than advertised prices, I've seen the IBIS near HRC (different from the one Chalky26 has mentioned) advertising at the hotel itself at 275000 Rp and you may get it for less. Obviously, don't turn up with a girl and ask for a discounted room - book it in advance, there's no danger of not using it !

In response to Pro question - the main factor is what night you go and whether there is any event on. Tiga Puluh (30) bar gets better as the week goes on, the "climax" being Saturday but if they have a fashion show as they sometimes do on Wednesday it pulls a lot more in than usual. Of the hotel bars I think CJ's is the most busy - too busy at the end of the week, it's so packed you can't easily get round to see who is there. I don't much like BATS because the ratio of bules to girls is far too high, hence therefore, so is the cost. Also the cost of getting in is too much (for what you get). I've never found much in Retro to recommend it. The bar in Grand Hyatt is hopeless as is the one in Aryaduta (which used to be good a few years ago). An important point is that the girls move from one to the other until they get picked up. It's difficult therefore to say that one place has better girls than another - and if they are still looking after the hotel bars close they usually go on to JJ's or Stadium which stay open later.

Prosal
03-30-04, 22:18
Re : Clubs

Bulai, thanks for your answer, i'll keep myself informed about fashion shows in Tiga Puluh when in Jakarta, thanks for the tip.

I agree about CJs being overcrowded on weekends and Bats being 'over-bule-ized' : De Leila was my personnal choice for a little change on Saturday nights (good mix of pros and non-pros, and a 'relaxing' Dangdut music), then from 1/2 am anyway Retro or JJ, with maybe Stadium or Mille's (Lokasari) later ; i'll follow anyway your advice to visit Tiga Puluh on Saturdays.

Cheers

Pro


BTW guys, about JJs, who remember that when it opened (can't remember when, early 90s maybe), it was during almost one year the hippest place in town, full of local socialites and celebrities, models and wealthy local yuppies !! ..... Anyway I personnaly don't have any regrets about this period, as JJs, after this, has always been the greatest place to party in SEA, until it became (just IMHO, not to be controvertial on the subject) the vipers nest it is since two or three years ......

Tamurlane26
03-31-04, 09:41
Sweet JJ"s and the lovely Tanamour

You are right it was the place to be and lots of fun and dirty dancing galore. Now its time has past and so we head off to other venues - Tigapuluh is a good place to go and CJ's as there is more dancing - Batz is more buleized and therefore more commercial by the passing month.

There are some nice jazz joints where the crowd is hip and hop and being Jakarta they are always willing to entertain a polite request which leads into the night!

Tamurlane26
03-31-04, 16:08
As promised on a previous mail this is the USD300 - I beg to differ with the monger who paid that amount however all is in the eye of the beholder and the wallet of the beholder.

As Bulai69 so aptly put it the problem with Batz is that the price is being ruined by those less knowledgeable and hence the prices have risen disproportionately to the efforts.

Perhaps Jakarta hands would like to offer classes in Batz etiquette in order to restore parity and sanity and to allow us all to move on in peace !

Hope you enjoy the photo

Bulai69
04-01-04, 15:58
Chalky26 - she looks pretty good to me but as you yourself agree, somewhat expensive. The point about BATS (and similar, but BATS is probably worst) is that the same girls can be found elsewhere at half (or less) the price, trouble is if you get 'hooked' it's hard to try and drive as hard a bargain as you should - they know it and they are brilliant at exploiting it.

Frank Africa
04-01-04, 16:32
Dear Chalky26:

Thanks for the photo.

I've been missing 3 CDs from my collection - now I know where they went! :)

Prosal
04-01-04, 20:08
THREE MILLIONS RPS (300 US$) !! .... I don't know who is the foolish monger who paid that amount for this kind of average stuff ... it could eventually be a right price for a Elite model-type stunner part-time freelancing (who could never be found in Bats/CJ/Tiga Puluh, but in Manna, Embassy or Centro), but absolutly not for this kind of kampung chick, who can be found anywhere in JKT for ten times cheaper ....

Keep in mind that your Ibis front-desk receptionnist or your waitress in McDo have a salary, for slaving 10 hours a day, around ONE MILLION RPS PER MONTH !!!

Bulai69
04-02-04, 04:40
Hi Poturu - point is there is action everywhere ! And plenty of hotels. For example if you stay in Blok M area you could book into hotel Melawai and get action 5 times aday without even leaving the hotel ! However you could also visit numerous bars in walking distance and meet girls in there. Blok M area is 'middle market' I would say.

Alternatively you could stay in Kota which is 'lower market' with bars etc everywhere. A good hotel is the Mercure which is a few metres from Stadium mentioned in forum many times. Another 'lower market' area is Jalan Jaksa - a backpacker area with lots of cheap hotels as well an IBIS near by. It's also not far from Hard Rock.

If you want to be more 'up market' you need to go to bars in the 5 star hotels - BATS, 30 Bar, CJ's all mentioned in forum but as they are spread accross the city it's harder to recommend specific 3 star hotels- but as I said IBIS, including the one mentioned by Chalky are OK.

It's important to know that wherever you want to go in JKT you will need to go by taxi and 10 minutes is no time at all in Jakarta. Most journeys take an hour even if they are only 100 metres !

Tamurlane26
04-02-04, 12:05
Pro,

I could not agree with you more on the "kampung" comments - she got lucky and should be congratulated as the last time the price was 300K RP !!

Poturu,

Bulai has summed it all up if you have time then the mall is an obvious choice if you have money then Shangri La - Gran Melia - Le Meridien is your choice - if you want to spend more on fun and games and less on hotels then the IBIS chain is more acceptable in terms of pricing. For timing the issue is where is not 10 minutes from anywhere - it provides a combination of both depending on the needs of the individual - for my part my partner's office is nearby IBIS and it is a sure and easy run to the airport - for those doing business as well as having fun these are also considerations.

Whatever the case may be enjoy the fun in the city that rocks and where all budgets can be catered for.

Lee66
04-03-04, 04:02
Are there internet cafe's near or in bloc M, and Jalan Jaksa (sp) area open late, like after 23:00.?

Thanks

Bulai69
04-03-04, 12:15
Poturu - just to be clear - the girls are not in the street - they are "shopping' in the malls and sitting in coffee shops and working as sales girls. You just need to approach them, smlie, see what reaction you get and go for it. If you look back in the forum you will seee more about this from me and others including photos. Plaza Senayan and Plaza Indonesia are good to start with.

Bulai69
04-04-04, 10:36
Lee66 - there is internet access everywhere. I'm not sure about precise locations but there is definitely at least one in Jalan Jaksa which is open late (all night I think). Shouldn't be too hard to find - not actually 'cafe's' of course - just Wartel's which used to be just for telephoning

Menteng
04-04-04, 11:07
Lee, there are several possibillities in the Melawai (blok M) area, but none of them are open after 22.00. Like Bulai said, a greater chance to find one open after 23.00 is in the Jln Jaksa area. Try also Jln Haji Agus Salim, parallel to Jln Jaksa. Look for the WARNET signs.

Zippy
04-05-04, 11:38
Lee,

There is an internet cafe located very near Pasaraya in Bloc M which is open 24 hours. It is called Harry's Cafe and Internet and the address is Jl. Wijaya I / 381Q, Kby Baru. The phone number is 021-72783779.

If you walk south on the street that the bus depot and Pasaraya are on, it is on your left about a block down.

Member 30
04-06-04, 02:52
Guys,

Please forgive me for putting up this question in the Jakarta forum. Well, the "Others" forum just gotten no reply at all.

I wonder if anyone could provide PRC gals info in Indonesia and if these gals are available in Balikpapan & Samarinda?

Thanks.

M Barnes
04-08-04, 06:45
Hello there,

I have a question, maybe a silly one for all of you. I read few posts in the forum that we can find most girls everywhere in the mall, in the bar, and etc. The question is how do we know if we are going to ask the right girl, and what kind of question should i ask? (i am kinda new about approaching girls in public in fact i never do one, i am kinda afraid if i pick the wrong girl heh).

I usually go to massage parlor or call some girls but I never approach them in public cause I think it's hard to guess which one is the right one.

Need some pointers here, thank you. Btw, I am Asian.

Mike.

Menteng
04-08-04, 22:48
Barnes,

Let me start to tell you that I'm Asian too. You know why. Not so long ago I went to Plaza Senayan and Plaza Indonesia with my friend Bulai to try our luck. You can read about that in this forum. How we could tell which girls/women are open for an approach? You'll just have to find out yourself. It differs every time. One time they give you the eye and another time, some girl in a coffee-shop who noticed that I was interested in her, just passed a piece of paper with her name and phone number written on it. There was also one who was shopping in the supermarket and after some advice how to prepare spaghetti, was very willing to spend some time in a hotel together. Let it depend on the moment which opening sentence is the best, just go for it!
Good luck.

Sloth
04-08-04, 23:15
Greetings,

Continuing with Barnes' line of questioning I was wondering how most normal girls in Jakarta would respond to a foreigner (white) who can't speak any of their language. I frequent the Philippines often and find it's easy to hook up with regular girls mainly because there's not a very broad language barrior. But I'm thinking Jakarta would be more of a challenge.

M Barnes
04-09-04, 01:36
Menteng,

Thank you for the reply. That was a good explanation. Btw, when that girl approached and gave you the piece of paper, were you alone or with somebody? What I mean is: will they approach someone who has a company ( I mean a guy company, not a girl heh) or they will only approach someone who is alone (cause i think some asian girls are kinda shy).

Mike

Menteng
04-09-04, 14:52
Sloth,

Being a (white) foreigner is a huge advantage. I would say, just look at the girl and that will get things happen. Either she'll respond or she'll go away. I don't think you'll have to bother about the language. Most girls understand basic English, not to mention basic instincts :-) If you go to the upscale bars like BATS, 30 Tigapuluh and others, there will be no language barrier. But, keep in mind, that the in the latter you'll be dealing with pro's.


Barnes,

I was not alone, but I don't think that matters. My experience is, that if they are interested, they'll go for it, even if you are with female company. Sometimes that can be embarrasing, especially when you're with your wife or temporary girlfriend ;-).
Yoy said you're Asian. Do you speak Indonesian? That will help, although is not required.

John Aldrich
04-09-04, 18:29
Hi Bulai 69,

I must thank you for introducing me to Oasis. What a wonderful place. I went back there last evening. I picked up the same old chick Alice, the one I had last time. This time she offered me a BJ for 300K and a screw for 500K . I settled for the BJ. As I came out near the lift facing the Karaoke joint there, I saw a stunner who smiled at me. Figured out she was a Karaoke companion. I was tempted and moved into the Karaoke place and took her. Her name was Sela. Young around 19 slim and sexy. In the Karaoke place, she was initially a little restricted, telling she would want me to come the next time. But then she opened up and gave me a BJ. The Karaoke ends at 1 pm. I told her I will wait for her in Deleila and picked her up and headed to the guest house. It was fun then. Really good in the bed. Looked like she has just been initiated into the night life scene.

Anyway, Bulai 69. Thanks once again. Its a great place. And the best thing is the girls in real look the same as in the photo. Unlike Kota area, where the mothers come in after showing the daughters pix.

JAD, you must add this place to your night tour. The mp is open 10 am to 10 pm and the Karaoke is open till 1 am.

John Aldrich
04-09-04, 20:26
I was in Plaza Senayan on wednesday evening in the food court. I managed to hook this Indo girl. Am just surprised it took me less than 3 minutes to hook up with her and off we were to my place. She was just too good in the bed, pretty wet and horny.

It was after a long time that I hooked up with someone in the mall. Was indeed a motivation to continue scouting for meat in the malls.

Bulai69
04-09-04, 20:33
John A - I'm back in UK now (sadly) but I was out in JKT last week and went back to Oasis myself. It was busy and I got no choice but the girl I got was excellent - very tall by Indo standards - maybe 5ft 8in. Just HJ but more was on offer.

Sloth & M Barnes - Menteng understates his capability somewhat - as he said I was with him on our mall hunting. You need have no worries about approaching girls because unlike in the West where they might tell you to **** off or call security, in JKT they will always be polite even if they are not interested. However this is not often the case. Most girls in malls speak English to some extent, my bahasa Indonesia is very basic but god enough to make limited small talk and ask girls for a drink, dinner, back to my hotel etc - however you can certainly cope without it. A good target are the perfume sellers - they always approach you as they are on commission only as a rule. Look back at my posting on "two for the price of one" with photo.

If you want to be more adventerous you can try hunting in the large office blocks. Most have cafes in them so it not like walking in to someones office! Girls are more off guard in this environment and it's an excellent place for "amateurs". So girls are not so much out for the money. I went hunting in the Jakarta Stock Exchange a couple of days ago. Between 11.30 and 13.00 I got 4 telephone numbers from 4 girls - 100% result. One came out to dinner that night and stayed the night in my hotel. Cost for dinner 450k (claimed on expenses!) but no cash asked for by her.

To get into the Stock Exchange you have to go through a rigorous security process which requires you to write a name (not necessarily your own) on a piece of paper along with the name of the person you intend to meet. Given you don't know who that is of course, just leave that blank.

Bulai69
04-09-04, 20:40
John A - I was in PS on wednesday and also found one! We went to the cinema (a popular pre-curser to a more "in-depth" relationship with Indonesian girls) before disappearing back to my hotel.

Sloth & M Barnes might like to note that the food court (top floor)is a good hunting area especially lunch time and early evening - when it's busy, asking to share a table is good "ice breaker" if your confidence is shaky.

Sloth
04-09-04, 20:49
Menteng,

Thanks for the info. BATS doesn't really appeal too much to me as I'm not interested in hookers (although I'll take an Asian hooker over a regular American girl anyday). I'm sure being young and guapo won't hurt either :) . I'll be booking a flight to Jakarta soon just have some safety concerns that according to US embassy are justified. I found it impossible to hide the fact that I was American in Manila.

peace.

Bulai69
04-10-04, 18:42
Sloth - I wouldn't worry to much about the so called safety issues - where can you go this is safe ? Certainly not US ! If you are not familiar with hookers in JKT I think you are in for a suprise. The girls in BATS and similar places range from full time hookers, some of whom work in massage places during the day to more up-market girls who have a job but look for supplementary income. The former are getting screwed 10 times a day but the latter maybe 5 times a week or maybe less if they get the full BATS rate ! (US$100). I posted a photo of a girl in the latter catagory a few weeks ago. My friend Menteng was with me as it happens when I met her (in BATS). Any hooker in JKT will give you a better GFE than a real girl friend in the west !

If you want true amateurs then that takes more time then getting a hooker of course - a couple of hours rather an couple of minutes ! There is plenty in here about picking up amateurs like the one pictured below

Bulai69
04-10-04, 18:50
I forgot to mention a point about the new Visa on arrival arrangements I got caught up with this time. Given no one wants to waste time in the airport when there are better things to do, it's important to note that if every page on your passport has a stamp onnit then they will not stick the visa in the passport ! This is what happened to me 2 weeks ago. The guy behind the glass panel didn't speak english either. Fortunately I could speak enough Bahasa Indonesia and was sufficiently aware of how to pursuade him to solve the problem (US$5 !) So make sure you have some blank pages in your passport

John Aldrich
04-10-04, 21:10
Last evening around 5 pm I was in Plaza Indonesia. And this cute female by name Hanima was sipping coffee in Starbucks alone. The other chair was empty and I excused myself and occupied the chair. Started chatting and within about 30 minute we were off to my place. Fabulous GFE experience. She was hesitant to pose nude . But got one for the keeps.

Yes Bulai 69, the malls are the best place to hunt for amateurs. And Jakarta will never stop surprising anyone.

Bulai69
04-11-04, 17:56
John A - I think there must be problem with the site as frustratingly I can't open the photo on your last post. Starbucks in PI is a good location.

What about this girl - fantastic by my criteria. Anybody else familiar with her ?

Bulai69
04-11-04, 17:57
Maybe she is more recognisable from this angle?

Bulai69
04-11-04, 18:03
On the first night of my arrival at the Meridien a couple of weeks ago I was quite tired after a 30 hour journey. Obviously going straight to bed was not an option so I went back down after a quick shower, walked once around the bar and found this girl about 3/4 of the way round. Total time in 30 Bar two minutes maximum. Not so good as my previous post but took less time to find !

Bulai69
04-11-04, 18:09
Here is another excellent girl, who I must confess I did not find myself, she was introduced to me by a friend. She can be found in all the usual (hotel) places from time to time.

Bulai69
04-11-04, 18:18
Result of another productive day in the malls

Bulai69
04-11-04, 18:19
Another angle

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God of Gamblers
04-14-04, 13:59
I've been trying to find kartika with no success. Does anyone know the exact street address? If I am in Lokasari Plaza, can I walk to it from there? Is it around Lokasari or do I have to go back to Hayam Wuruk.

Thanks

John Aldrich
04-14-04, 19:13
God of Gamblers ,

It would take 10 to 15 minutes from Lokasari Plaza. I would suggest you take a Bajaj from there and ask for Plaza Hayam Wuruk or Stadium Disco. Since the Baja will not come on the main road but through lanes and bylanes. As you come out of Stadium to the main Road take a right turn towards kota and turn the third right. You will first see Berlian and then Kartika on your right. In case you decide to walk it, then come out of Loakasari Plaza and turn right turn towards Haya Wuruk. You will hit the signal on Hayam Wuruk. Take a left turn and then turn first left. In the lane you can"t miss Berlian. A few yards away is Kartika.

Have fun,

Cheers

Andrew Zhang
04-14-04, 20:19
Hi,

Guys. I live in Mega Kuningan now, I would like to know where I can find girl to take to my house in this block.

Thanks,

Andrew

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M Barnes
04-16-04, 07:10
Hello everyone,

Thank you for the reply Bulai69 & Menteng, sorry I havent got time to login lately.

Anyway, I am Chinese Indonesian, so I can speak Indonesian, but I have been in US for the past 8 years, and I just got back to jkt. So, I kinda "new" here, cause jkt now isn't the same as jkt 10 years ago.

That's why I am wondering where and how to approach girls here.

I'll try to approach them then, I'll give the report later. Wait for the good news:)

Peace,

Mike

God of Gamblers
04-16-04, 14:39
As for the Maribaya, I have gone there over the years and can give Lucy a strong recommendation. She claims to be a 36D but they look much larger because she is a petite girl. They are all natural and she knows how to use them.

Her best attribute though is the enthusiasm with which she takes care of her man. She is fantastic in the sack and a great pleaser.

Unfortunately, there aren't many others there of note. They are all wearing incredibly high heels, so your 5'9" princess often turns out to be a squat 5'5". As well, it's so dark in the place that you have to be REALLY careful.

Menteng
04-17-04, 00:02
Asuat,

Go to Plaza Indonesia, you'll find them there. My experience and I think others can confirm this, they will approach a man walking alone. Streetworkers are at Taman Lawang, near Plaza Indonesia and in south Jkt, you can find them near hotel Mahakam.

Gzono
04-17-04, 07:03
Hi God of Gamblers

Do you mean Hotel Sentral? I went there and found the girls pretty but very professional. They have also been with Arabs since Arabs hang out there and well how I do I say this: They have been pretty well knocked around and no GFE possible IMHO. Not sure about free behing hotel-where behind?

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Bulai69
04-17-04, 17:43
Asuat - Menteng is just referring to South Jakarta (Jkt). When you arrive I suggest you get a map which has all the hotels and malls on it. If you go into Grand Hyatt hotel (you can enter from top floor of Plaza Indonesia) just ask for a tourist map - they will give you one at the concierge with street index, main building index etc. If you look back in this thread you will see references to places you can find street girls - Blok M is one area and specific streets are mentioned.

If you hang out in Excelso cafe in basement of Plaza Indonesia you will certainly find some gay men in there who will have contacts for every taste - girls, gays, TV's - you name it ! Mid afternoon is probably the best time. Also the cafes in Jalan Jaksa at night are a good location for girls and TV's if you want the lower cost end of the market.

Bulai69
04-17-04, 17:53
I have tried the disco behind Hotel Central (Sentral) and frankly it was not a good place for the action most readers are looking for. I did only go once however. The hotel does have some excellent girls but I couldn't negotiate taking one back to my hotel - the mamasan just wouldn't have it. Did you manage that ? The massage in there was also a bit dissapointing and on top of all that it quite a long way from most other good places.

The final negative aspect of my (one an only) visit was that as I left by taxi the police stopped me and were quite aggressive when I couldn't produce my passport. Their aggression diminissed when I produced USD 5 instead. I should add this has only happened once so it's not something new comers should worry about. Always have some spare cash for this purpose and make sure you offer it to the boss.

Horny469
04-17-04, 20:36
Bulai69

What has happened to you is normal. Best thing is to carry a photo copy of your passport to avoid the hassle by the po po's.

My advice chooses a taxi driver that you can trust meaning a lot of taxi drivers are working with the corrupted police, and they target forigeners.

So if you going from De Leila to Mentang II this is the usual senairo.

Good luck

by the way guys how is the scene in CJ's. Any one been with a cutie called Baby (curly hair).

Bye

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Lord Weasel
04-22-04, 02:25
I will be popping into JKT for purely a pleasure visit in June for a couple of weeks and would like to stay in a Budget hotel near to Kemang or Blok M.

I would like some where safe and clean, but definately on the lower end of the price scale.

Any recomendations anybody?

Pete33
04-22-04, 07:05
Lord Weasel,

My two [2] prefered hotels in Jakarta Selatan are Ambhara Hotel, DLX/DBL Rm. incl. breakfast is nett Rp.505.000,00 or the Kristal Hotel, 1 Bedroom Suite Dbl. incl. breakfast is nett Rp.569,000.00

I usually buy Hotel Vouchers from bayubuanatravel.com, but I think hotel vouchers are available from any bonefide travel agent.

Enjoy your stay in Jakarta.

Ciao

Menteng
04-22-04, 12:35
Lord Weasel,

The only budget hotels I know are in the Jalan Jaksa area. There is enough action over there, but it is not very near to Kemang nor Blok M. How ever Jl Jaksa is well located to visit the fleshpots in North Jakarta (Kota, Lokasari etc) and South Jakarta (Blok M district)

God of Gamblers
04-22-04, 14:25
a friend of mine went to kartika and related his experience over a cup of hot java at starbucks yestereday. his experiences were quite enlgihtening. i had been told that a bule cannot make it thru the infamous kartika treatment, and my freind, mr. hans, confirmed my suspicions.

"at first i thought it was fun, but the fun aspect soon faded to be replaced by unbearable sensation begging release. to begin with you are escorted to a small cubicle where you strip and lay down on a bed. the bed is covered in soap suds and your masseuse proceeds to massage you with her body, body surfing up and down.

there are mirrors all over the walls so you can enjoy the view. the girl hereself is quite inventive with the number fo positions and variations. once i looked up and saw that she was upside down, holding on to my calves while vigorously surfing her breasts back and forth over my thighs. i killed the time by biting into my forearm to ward off the mounting pressure i was feeling that threatened to go off like a depth charge in my u-boat at any time.

then she turned me over. this is where i realized it was almost checkmate. she proceeded to engage in moves more complex than the kama sutra, massaging me with her thighs, stomach, chest, etc. while i gritted my teeth, vainly trying to hold it back. i tried my tried method of reciting a few choice poems of goethe and football statistics, but it didn't seem to be helping.

sometimes she would surf up at a fantastic speed, taking a flying leap from the foot of the bed, deftly trapping me between her pendulous jugs with a big grin on her face. but each time when i thought it was all over for me, she would pull back and give me a rest. i stayed in the game up to this point through sheer willpower.

then she asked me to shower off.

i naively thought this was it and regretted my germanic restraint. but then, i realized that the game had just begun. she began to give me a 'cat massage'. this insidious treatment consists of the masseuse licking your body from toe to head. you may think this is simply strange, but in fact, the sensation is absolutely spine tingling; scarcely had she reached my inner thighs that i felt the all too familiar bee sting of urgency building up to a crescendo. by the time she reached my neck, i was so on edge that i could almost taste blood from biting my lip and knawing on my palm.

when release was finally afforded me, it came in such a wave that i was carried away and almost litereally, as the bed is so slippery that one move can result in both parties being swept away. luckily, thanks to my fraulein's dexterity, such was not to be. and thus my kartika adventure abruptly ended. apparently, for those hardy souls who can last till the end of the massage, as the masseuse squats over you, she promptly and abruptly sits on your angry member as a reward for your stoic restraint, at which point i guarantee it will be tor****. los !

however, i did not make it that far. count me as but another victim of kartika."

Bulai69
04-22-04, 19:22
Found when "mall wandering "in Plaza Indonesia. Anyone tried Plaza Semmanggi yet?

Bulai69
04-22-04, 19:33
Hard to beat this I think

Bulai69
04-22-04, 19:34
And again

Pete33
04-23-04, 03:01
Poturu & Asuat,

The nearest 3 Star Hotels [as per Indonesian rating system] to Plaza Indonesia that I have had the change to utilized are:

[1] Arcadia Hotel on Wahid Hasyim Street, tel. +62.21.2300050, Spr/Dbl is Rp.325.000,00 incl. breakfast, and...

[2] Ibis Tamarin Hotel on Wahid Hasyim Street, tel. +62.21.3912323, Std/Dbl is Rp.335.000,00 incl. breakfast. Both hotels, like all of the hotels in Indonesia, are girl friendly. From Plaza Indonesia, Wahid Hasyim Street is just a 10 minutes easy walk, you go towards the 24hours McDonalds, and there you are already on Wahid Hasyim Street. The famous Daksa Street is just a 2 minutes walk from either one of those two mentioned hotel. Enjoy your stay and please do post your FR and fantastic pictures like Bulai69.

Bulai69:

Wow, just great. I really salute you on your catch of v12.jpg.

She is just incredible beautiful, black beauty ==> my taste, mind telling me where you got her and for how much LT [over night].

Thanks my friend.

Ciao.

Menteng
04-23-04, 11:47
Poturu,

There are some in Jl Jaksa area like Ibis Tamarin, Karya, Cipta and Arcadia. Another rather close one is hotel Setiabudi at jl Setiabudi.

Lord Weasel
04-23-04, 14:31
Hotel Nikko (5 star) is spitting distance from PI.

Sari Pan Pacific is one Transjakarta bus stop away (2 minutes)

Hotel Ibis is a ten minute walk and 1 bus stop. (That is probably 3 star).

There are a couple more near Plaza Serina (another good pick up Plaza - I got a pair in MacDonalds.) whose name escape me, all one stop away.

Le Meridian is about 5 bus stops (10 mins)

Intercontinental is 4 bus stops

Hyatt is inside PI.

Hotel Setiabudi is 5 stops and a 10 min walk and is probably 3 star.

TransJakarta Buses run like every 2 minutes and are 2500 each way, they are safe as houses.

Tamurlane26
04-23-04, 17:00
An excellent choice Bulai and an engine that Shumi would have been proud to ride given that this is a real V12 Ferrari engine you have there !!

We look forward to your return to these shores in the next couple of months and in the meantime shall try to keep the flag flying in all the right positions !!

Prosal
04-24-04, 10:04
Bulai, for "mall wandering" i could suggest Cilandak Town Square, south of Kemang, THE new place to be in Jakarta for week-ends mall cruising, trendiest than Plaza Indonesia, and IMO more relaxing with plenty of cafés with open-air terraces often packed with girlies.

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Bulai69
04-25-04, 13:53
Poturu - it depends where you go as far as danger is concerned - just like any other big city. I think the dangerous places are where you wouldn't want to be anyway. Most places in JKT are spread around so you need to use a taxi. Best to get a good taxi (Silver or Blue Bird) and keep it. Several hours would only cost 10 - 15 USD.

Pro - interesting what you say about CTOS because I've not had much success there. However I've only been 3 times - maybe wrong time of day?

Hawaii
04-26-04, 07:25
Poturu,

Jakarta in general is safe place for walk. Just use your common sense in most places so you will be safe.

Usually the crime target it local people and not foreigner because those criminal will be hunted very very seriously by the police.

Some foreigner being robbed but very rarely they were harmed. But Jakarta has alot of pick pocket or thieves, even in big hotel those pick pocket still hanging arround. So be careful with your passport and credit card.

Tamurlane26
04-26-04, 12:34
Then again there is nothing finer than the walk from the taxi to the hotel with one's latest conquest or the short hop from Tanamour to JJ's !!

If your penchant is for beauty then the malls are the place to be and a nice cup of coffee in Starbucks can lead on to a new mission. If on the other hand you have a penchant for the darker arts then stay in those areas well mongered including Blok M as in these areas Bule are money and therefore less likely to be touched other areas if you cant speak the lingo then you may find extraction a little harder than "black hawk down" - no offence meant.

Given distance between locations a taxi is a wise bet and Silver Bird is preferred - it might have to do with my partner supplying all of their comms equipment !! LOL

Mall walking is more enjoyable and reveals a wider range of the local species that are attuned to our forum than the back lanes where age has befallen the victims !

Fun Times69
04-27-04, 01:23
Poturu.

Look, Jakarta doesn't have a natural centre but a series of centre's. The taxi is king and considering how inexpensive they are you shouldn't worry about using them all the time. Or maybe an ojek if the distance is only short but the advantage of taxi's are they have meters and ojeks demand negotiating skills.

There has been a lot of talk about non-pro pick ups but I've always thought the most effortless place to go is Stadium. To be quite honest though it isn't difficult wherever you go.

www.stadiumjakarta.com

Pete33
04-27-04, 03:09
Pro - CITOS [Cilandak Town Square]

I was in CITOS, a few weeks ago, on a Friday and Saturday night. Was sitting and enjoying my cuppa-java at the Starbuck and the Cafe Excelso. Most of the traffic were on the ground-floor level and consist of family units and/or very young groups of boys and girls. I was scouting the area looking for some fellow "hunters" and, was definite in the hunting-mode of looking for possible "preys"; helas, no such luck on the "preys" quest. But, yes, there were several, IMHO, "hunters" like myself constantly shifting their eyes left and right, trying to catch the attention of any possible "pray". Basicly, guys, I have had no luck in CITOS.

Maybe, just my personal experience, I do not know.

Ciao.

T Poet
04-27-04, 12:30
After reading the travel Threads changed my mind "I am debating Jakarta or Angels city, or Manila appreciate any and all tips from fellow mongers especially Senior members for any pics leads and tips I think I will try the amateur scene and masssage parlors which are the best in Jakarta? Not much for discos and will contribute anything I can to the reports after ward.

Much love

TP

Menteng
04-27-04, 17:08
Domfor,

Yeah, sure, no efforts needed finding company in Stadium. But maybe it's my fate, all the girls I met there were pro's.

John Aldrich
04-27-04, 17:38
Hi Menteng,

Its difficult to differentiate between pros and amateurs here in Jakarta. I had a response to my profile in a match making website. The girl works for one of the citibank franchisees. We met up on a friday evening for dinner. And I casually asked her out that night and she was game. I looked at her in a different light. I imediately checked into a hotel and had some great fun that night. Next day morning I shoved some money in her bag and she bluntly refused, telling me she is not that type etc. And she was looking for a long term relationship etc etc.

That evening I landed in Tigah Pulu and beleive me I see this female literally mongering for guys . She did not see me and I was watching the fun till she firmed up a guy and then I walked past her and this female was shell shocked to see me there. She was already hooked up with someone and did not know where to look. For obvious reasons she never called me back except for some vague SMS wishing me a good day etc. Maybe thought Bule's are easy suckers and could just pile on.

Bulai69
04-27-04, 20:08
Pete33 - my experience in CITOS is the same as yours: almost more hunters than prey ! Having said that I've not been that often I'm never based in the south of the city.

As far as Stadium is concerned I agree with Menteng that it is almost all pro hookers or semi- pro's. The standard is usually OK but not brilliant. I think the photo below is fairly typical - a Stadium "take-out" - all night, excellent performer but double the price you need to pay

Bulai69
04-27-04, 20:19
By popular demand - I've never had so many PM's before !

LuvumBare
04-27-04, 21:13
I will be in JKT mid September. I am scheduled to stay at theBorobudur Hotel.

What, if anything, is in the area or in the hotel itself?

'bare

Menteng
04-27-04, 21:36
Hi John,

I guess that one does not exclude the other and I think that it is only logical that she refused your taxi-money. She had to gain your trust first and after that .......... See it as an investment from her side.
Most of us here in this Forum will not fall into that trap, because in the first place we ourselves use those sites to score a non-pro. But how many Bule's are lost?

Tamurlane26
04-28-04, 03:15
Indonesia or Thai

This is the milliondollar question - if you prefer the more commercial aspects of this life then Thailand is most certainly for you not withstanding that language can be a major issue.

For Indonesia read more GFE and more care and attention as in many cases there is a greater level of freelancers and therefore there is more of a chase than a simply meat bargaining.

But in any case one should always have a diet of variety as this is the spice of life and with so many countries close by there is plenty to chose from.

To each his own but as someone who has been in the region for the past 15 years Jakarta is still the best for those special moments - where money is important but fun takes precedence

Pete33
04-28-04, 04:25
Poturu:

Please do read more carefully the Posting Guidelines as defined by Jackson. The purpose of "Posting" is to inform all of us about a real live experience that you have had and certainly not to make insinuating comments that borders towards a very degrading personal opinion. Please do stop your "cry baby" questionings and just simply post your real FR.

Ciao

Pete33
04-28-04, 04:57
Jakarta FR.

Just arrived in Jakarta yesterday morning, took the straight CX flight from Vancouver via Hong Kong to Jakarta. After flying more than 20 hours, even thou in Business Class, my whole body is just too exhausted, but fortunately jet-leg have had not caught-up with me. This time, did not stay at any of the local hotels, but was staying at a friend's place in Kebayoran Baru. Just to proof myself and my buddy Bulai69 wrong, went to CITOS [Cilandak Town Square] for my usual strong cuppa-java, this time at Cafe Dome. Same old story, unsuccessful "hunting" trip. At about 17:00 hours, decided to call quits and proceed back to Kebayoran Baru Residence. On the way, asked the taxi driver, the only taxis available at CITOS is the very reliable Blue Bird taxis, to drop me at the nearest local frequented shopping mall. He suggested the D'Best Mall, located approximately 10 minutes from CITOS. Ordered an other cuppa-java in front of the indoor KFC. Incredible and unbelievable Jakarta, this stunning beautiful young lady was walking towards where I was sitting and sat at the table next to me. At 17:30 hours, not much traffic at the D'Best Mall. Put on my vicious "hunting smile" and just said hi to her and started to execute my entrapment. She fell for it and ofcourse she knows that I know that she is just a "pro" on the prole. We have agreed for Rp.200,000.00 for ST [short time], the average definition of ST in Jakarta is as many "drillings" as you can manage within a 3 hours period. Asked her for the nearest "love motel" around. We took a taxi and believe it nor not just about 5 minutes from CITOS, which is also about 15 minutes from D'Best is a very nice and super clean motel called the "Hillside Hotel". The rate is Rp.150,000.00 for 3 hours in a relatively large room with a double-size bath tub. Oh yes, the girl's name is SARI, about 25 years old, any which way you want, GFE, and very excellent. Asked her if it is Okay to give her cellphone number to my buddies, she said why not. Please do PM me if you are interested. Will be leaving for Tarakan, East Kalimantan on Friday, will post further FR.

Ciao.

Prosal
04-28-04, 09:48
John A, about Cilandak, for sure it attracts a very different crowd than Plaza Indonesia, as the place is newer (in JKT it often means trendier) ; On week ends, most of the yuppies and models wanabees you could meet on Fridays nights in Embassy, Manna, Blowfish or Centro congratulate in Cilandak Town Square : it's much more difficult to hunt those girlies than the middle class or kampung chicks hanging in Pasaraya and Block M, but if you're lucky enough to have some good friends among the wealthy Jakartaneses to introduce you to some of those high class girls you're really in a bachelor paradise.

Anyway Plaza Senayan stays the best for mall hunting, always buzzy and often full of upmarket beauties, few clicks above Plaza Indonesia IMO.

Cheers

(BTW, there a new place in Cilandak, named 'Score', kind of dancing-billiard lounge with some top DJs, never experienced this place, any report from a JKT expert ?)

Menteng
04-28-04, 15:53
Poturu,

Have you ever been to Indonesia? What is your opinion based on? I have visited a lot of countries all over the world, even Thailand, and I can assure you that the qualifications you give on the girls in Indonesia apply to the girls in all those other countries as well.

Bulai69
04-28-04, 19:18
Pro - you make a very valid point when you say "newer means trendier", that's very much the way in JKT - however, have you tried that strangely shaped new bit they've added on to PI ? I went in there last month and although I didn't like the place myself (quite irrelevant of course given the task in hand) there were a lot of excellent girls in there. I made arrangements to see an excellent girl who was one of two working in the 4th (I think) shop on the left as you go in from PI. She was great value in every sense. Unfortunately my camera battery had gone flat so no pics of her. On the whole I think there isn't an aweful lot to chose between the big malls, especially PI and PS; one thing for sure, the time of day and day of the week is the greatest factor in determining quality and quantity.

Actually for quantity (but not highest quality), Blok M Pasar Raya and surroundings are probably best. Girls sometimes sit on the low wall in the tunnel between the two halves of Pasar Raya where the taxis drive through. Just so happens I have a photo of one I found in exactly that location

Bulai69
04-28-04, 19:53
LuvumBare - there's nothing in walking distance that's for sure - apart from some ill-advised night time activity around the railway station and park area not far away. But wherever you go in JKT you need to go by taxi and at night you can get every where in 15 minutes or so (unlike day time). Keep the cab and use Silver Bird - only 10 - 15 USD for several hours). You will be towards the north, nearer to Kota than you would be if you were in say Hyatt, Mandarin etc and a bit further from Blok M. You can read about these places in the forum. You are near all the major hotel night clubs (In Meridien, ShangriLa, Holiday Inn, Mulia etc) by taxi.

Chances are, if you don't feel like going out, you'll get "full service" from an in-room massage - but it will be VERY expensive and not at all representative of what you can find elsewhere.

God of Gamblers
04-29-04, 00:15
Now here's a key questions: Any short time no tell hotels around the Atrium?

HKferry
04-29-04, 03:37
brothers,

i will be leaving for jkt in may staying at the Hilton jakarta. I have never been to jkt before and i have no idea where my hotel is in relation to the hot spots, any suggestions? Im not even sure the policy on bringing girls back to the hotel either, but from what i can gather on this board the nicest are in nightclubs or dance clubs? how about the hardrock? my friend from jkt always seems to be there when i call him. many thanks..

Hkferry.

Pete33
04-29-04, 05:20
Bulai69,

Hey buddy, I may have had an encounter with your posted picture. Is her name RIKA? Very nice indeed. Always that "black-beauty" and "earth-looking" with a wide smile woman.

Congratulation, buddy.

Ciao

Pete33
04-29-04, 05:29
Pro: On Score at CITOS, 2nd Floor.

Buddy, as per my last report on action in the CITOS [Cilandak Town Square], basicly the 2nd Floor is a "walking zombie" zone. No action whatsoever. As you enter, on your lefthand side is the restaurant & bar area and on the righthand side are the pool/billard tables [there were quite a number of tables, did not count them], the podium, where they normally have a live-band in the evening, is located towards the middle-end of the place.

Was there about 17:00 hours, the place is dead as a cemetary.

Again, maybe just my "luck" at the right place at the wrong time.

Ciao

Tamurlane26
04-29-04, 08:03
Poturu,

Please follow the comments of Pete33 in order that we may return to our normal business of sharing information and photos - if you do not like Indonesian girls based on photos on the internet then please return to a forum better suited to your tastes and requirements.

Many of your questions have been answered in the politest manner and a search on the forum would give more information than any "Lonely Planet" or their ilk is likely to give.

All welcome new members to the forum in the spirit of harmony as Jackson likes us to remember. However do not test the patience too much simply find another forum suited to your tastes and remain in that country to assist their GDP.

Tamurlane26
04-29-04, 08:09
A nice location to be in - do recommend that rather than simply sit in the Hard Rock cafe you try some of the other places.

For crowd and pickup - Tigapuluh(Meridien) Batz(Shangri La) and CJ's(Gran Melia or Mulia I always forgot until I find myself there!!)

About a bit more then Blok M and the Stadium - all of these a tazi driver will find with ease!

The first ones are suggested if language is an issue and you are willing to perhaps pay a little above the odds in order to converse!

As some of our friends also mention if you have more time look shy and go to the Mall and ask for help! Often works wonders

Menteng
04-29-04, 10:20
Luvumbare,

Actually, there's a good hunting spot very near to Hotel Borobudur. It's the Atrium Senen shopping mall.


GoG,

There is (was?) one not far from Atrium. I forgot the name but I'm sure the girls will know.

Zippy
04-29-04, 12:30
Menteng,

I agree with you in regards to the Atrium mall! I was there last Saturday in the day and observed an abundance of cute girls and not a lot of bules (unlike PI and PS).

I've been hanging out a lot on the weekends at Millenium Disco which, in my opinion, has the best looking (mostly) non-pro girls of any non-pro disco. It's true that 90% of the girls are on X but it is truely a mind-blowing experience to hang out at that place. There are some HOT women there!

Bulai69
04-29-04, 20:29
I agree about Atrium too - especially lack of bules which is a good thing (ie supply/demand). It's a short taxi ride from Borobudour Luvumbare.

HKFerry - Hilton is not in walking distance of any action (like most places in JKT but is just a short taxi ride from other hotels with clubs which you can read about - ShangriLa (BATS), Meridien (30Bar), Mulia (CJ's) etc. Also not far from Hard Rock which is OK for hunting but ratio of bules (westerners) to girls is not good.

There is never a problem taking girls into 5* hotels provided they go in with you. I've stayed at Hilton a couple of times and it's always been OK. They will get hassle from security if they turn up alone to come to your room, even then, as always in JKT, it's just a case of paying a few rupiah but better to avoid that if you can. In my experience you are unlikely to find girls in the hotel itself unlike many other places, apart of course from in-room massage service which, as I've said before, is very poor value.

John Aldrich
04-30-04, 13:27
Last nite was just zappy. I was out to caktuci, the manado restaurant in Blora at around 8 pm to have some spicy dinner.Saw a stunner, a manado female having dinner on the next table. I was struggling to communicate with the bearer when this girl offered help. She ordered the food for me and I started the chat. She asked me where I was from and I told her I was from the UK. Pretty good english. She was staying alone in an apartment and was into organising events. The chat went into events!!! The bill came and I offered to pay her bill. She was hesitant, but I insisted. Anyway manado food does not cost much. We came out together. And I figured out she did not have transport and was planning to hail a taxi. I offered her a lift. In the car I asked her out for a drink and she agreed. I did not mention the hotel so took her home and offered a Gin tonic and I with a bacardi cola. We went chatting till around 10 30 pm when I laid my hand on her chin and pulled her towards me and kissed her when she did not resist. That was it. And then it was fun till around 2 am when we dosed off. Both got up around 8 am and had one more session of love making. Had a quick shower. I got dropped in my office and she was off to her place.

Here She is. Jakarta never stops amazing me. The people have so much love to offer!!!

Pete33
05-01-04, 02:08
John Aldrich,

Very nice "trophy" buddy. What a lucky bloke you are, such "sucking-licking" fantastic breast, must be al least 34C. Wow.

Ciao.

Prosal
05-01-04, 11:42
Pete, thanks for the report about 'Score' ; Anyway it seems you've been to early, from what i heard it's a middle-night place (11pm/2am, then people move to Embassy or Centro).
Have you been to 'Jet Set' on Jl Gato Subroto which is a billiard place for evening/early night ?

Cheers

BTW John A, could be that i know the girl from Manado, a big busty 'tall' girl (it's the boobs and the fact she's from Manado that brings back some memory) .... if she's this girl, she used to hang around in JJs and Bats three years ago : never saw her back since then .... freebie, and good performer from what i remember ....

Thanks for the pic anyway.

John Aldrich
05-01-04, 18:00
Pro,

Unfortunately I do not know anything about her. Yes your specification about her match the profile. It was just a one night stand. You could be right. Nothing surprises in Jakarta

Haole
05-01-04, 21:30
I have not been to Jakarta for about two years but will be returning there for a visit this summer.

IMHO, Jakarta is like Bangkok of the mid-80's---that is, lots of good looking young ladies that are open to anything.

Everytime I have been to Jakarta, wild, crazy, good things have happened!

I want to thank fellow mongers Bulai, John A, and others for keeping us updated on the Jakarta scene.

bostonpride33
05-02-04, 04:33
Hi all,

I made it into town a few days ago and have been pretty busy with the hobby considering I am here for the first tme. Many thanks to all of you who have posted such great info on this board. And many thanks to those I have corresponded with through private messaging.


The night I arrived i had a taxi take me to Hotel Malawai. Long drive because of the traffic. Went to the 6th floor and turned left down the hall. WOW! There must have been 50 young ladies milling around in lingerie. All offering to give me a massage. It was hard to stay composed and look over all available. I chose a little girl with a nice rack and off to the room we go. The rooms are substandard, so don't expect anything great here. Service was great. Showered together, then bbbj then a few covered positions. All very pleasant. 320,000 rupiah including a coke. I'm sure i overpayed because of being a foreigner and first time.

Last night I hit Jaspa Spa. Ran into 2 english speaking men in the hot tub area. Locals I think but could be wrong. One filled me in on the procedure and what to expect. Many thanks to you if you are a forum member. He also told me to try Stadium, and BATS. No choice of girls. One just came to the stall I had chosen. A bit stocky for my taste, but friendly and good looking. Excellent massage. Very good and thourough before being offered extras. Hard time communicating. She wanted 200,000 for hand release. I advised I had only 150,000. Agreed. Good work with the finish as well. Best part was massage though. She stayed fully clothed and all i got was a handfull of breast over the clothes. Total = 267,000 rupiah.

Went to the Hard Rock Cafe at night (11-2) but it was jam packed. No chance to even see what might be available. I'm guessing the right time for Americans to pick up women out of this place is during lunch and/or dinner. I will try that before I go.

Walking back to the Sari Pan Pacific I was propositioned by Lisa. She's maybe late 30s, good shape. Nice rack but smaller. She came to my room. I gave her some fruit and a soda as well as 60,000 for bbbjtcimws. Very good value. The only thing I didn't like was the walking her back out of the hotel. The bellmen obviously knew what was up but didn't hassle me. I just don't like being so obvious.

So, I guess I'm off to Stadium today. Wish me luck. I will report.

BP33

Zippy
05-02-04, 06:53
For those of you who don't like to spend a shit-load of money on a hotel in Jakarta, I offer a couple of suggestions below. One of them, Hotel Cempaka, has been recommended before here.

Lodging in Jakarta can be quite expensive compared to other mongering destinations. If you have an expense account, this will obviously be irrelevant to you, however, for those who pay out-of-pocket and are on a budget, these 2 places could work for you.

1. Hotel Cempaka - Jl. Let. Jend. Suprapto, Cempaka Putih, Jakarta - 62-021-426 0066, email- cempajkt@rad.net.id

You will receive good value for your Rupiah here. As of this writing, a standard room for 2 guests runs 265,000 Rp (w/o breakfast) and 320,000 Rp. (with breakfast). The rooms have satellite TV with CNN are are in reasonable condition. Much better that Hotel Melawai which I consider a shithole and will never stay in again. The carpeting is a little warn but overall, I found the rooms pretty clean. Be sure to ask for a non-smoking room if you are not a smoker b/c the smoker rooms smell like...well, smoker rooms!

P4P venues like Bats, CJ's, Stadium, JJ's are about 20- 40 minutes taxi ride away (depending on traffic).

2. Aston Atrium Hotel - Jl. Senen Raya 135, Jakarta 10410 - Phone- 6221 - 3442828 (homepage: www.astonatrium.co.id)

This hotel has the added bonus of being connected to Atrium Mall, which is a great place to meet local Indonesian non-pros. Plus the mall actually has decent items to buy and a couple of nice coffee shops to hang out (so you're not bored out of your mind in 20 minutes!).

As of this writing, the Aston Atrium had a special of 300,000 Rp. (w/o breakfast) for their standard room for 2 guests. I was told the "normal" rate is 330,000 Rp. so the regular rate is decent, also. The place looks newer than Cempaka and is located a little closer to some of the P4P venues. The Aston Atrium also has its' own bar which looks promising ("The Morgan") which has live bands on the weeknds. I haven't had a chance to check out the bar, though. This place has a decent weight room, for those of you into fitness.

I should also mention that unlike the Hyatts, Marriots and Hotel Intercontinental Midplazas of Jakarta, these cost-effective rates are available to foreigners without a kitas (Indo. ID).

John Aldrich
05-02-04, 14:26
bostonpride33

You did not over pay in Maribaya. The cost of the rendezvous for one hour is Rp300K and the balance is for coke. Maribaya is one place which has a fixed amount for the rendezvous, unlike some hotels where they charge for the massage and then you need to negotiate your way through with the girl for the type of service and the money you are going to pay.

John Aldrich
05-02-04, 20:52
Last nite was just amazing. I was in Plaza Senayan when I saw this cute little nymphet coming in front alone. I just stopped her and asked her as to where the Sports shop was. While she gave me the directions of the shop I knew, I acted confused when she volunteered to walk me up there. I offered her a coffee which gave me an opportunity to chat up with her. Learnt she was a student of Monash College and was proposing to go to Australia later to pursue her higher studeis. I listened, rather, acted listening intently. Asked her about her preperation to go to Australia and et al. Finally asked her out for a drive and was back home with her. After a very enjoyable rendezvous asked her for a pic as a momento. In fact she is pretty keen to be in touch and so am I!!!

JAD, where are you. Not to be seen at all. Am missing you.

HKferry
05-04-04, 03:40
poturu, you've been to jkt before? ive been to surabaya once and i saw a great deal of nice girls, not as nice as thailand but maybe im just into the thai girl look. Indo has some good women but i think the thing that makes them great is their attitude, very very easy going and always joking around. I found that in thailand it was a bit awkard at times, they were very nice but i didnt feel comfortable there.

ill be going there on weekdays so id also like to know where to look.. maybe a sauna or MP ?

Dick Nasty
05-04-04, 05:02
John A,

I read a lot of your posting and I am quite astonished with your skills. How do you know if a girl you see in malls, cafes, etc are approachable? Have you encounter some rejections or a girl who got offended with your approach? Worst, if later her boy friend comes and get aggraveted? I see many beautiful grils, some are easy to sport that they are pros, but some , you can't really tell and hesitant to approach because she may get offended. Share your instinct skills and your experience. I'd like to be more daring.

Thanks

John Aldrich
05-04-04, 15:28
Dick Nasty,

I dont approach any and every girl. And even when I approach any girl I start up a converstaion to reinforce confidence into her that I am a safe guy. Till date I have had only one girl who even refused to kiss. I had checked into Hotel Atlet Century Park and was planning for a rendezvous with a girl whom I located through one of the dating sites. But I had checked in by 3 pm and my date was at 7 pm. I walked over to Plaza Senayan. Got this girl in the book store and then chatted up with her on a book she was holding. She seemed amused at my knowledge on management and asked me a few questions there. I told her lets go and discuss over a coffee since we are disturbing others. We went to one of the restaurants there had coffee and then I told her that I was new to Jakarta, ( just BS), and did not know the way to the hotel back. She offered to walk me back. Once in the hotel, I told her that I might have some book on the same topic in my room and if she can come along. She did. We went in to my room and I searched and searched but could not find the book!!!!

(Obviously, it will not be there, since I never had one). I then told her she deserves a drink and offered her a beer from the fridge. But she said no and took a coke instead. I sat next to her and was chatting up with her and after about close to 10 minutes of intense chatting I placed my hands on her chin, and drew her towards me , the normal trick I use . In case the girl comes forward, then I kiss her and from there I take it on. But this was the only girl who went behind instead of coming forward. My instinct said, leave her. I then smiled at her and got rid of her in a few minutes, but did that very gracefully without hurting her pride.

Sometimes, even if the girl has kissed, when you draw her closer to you does not mean that she is going to sleep immediately. One needs to reinforce confidence in her and invest time into her and have those kissing and petting sessions and then from there take it on your instincts. Never hurry the girl into sex. She will suspect you. Sometimes I have met the girl maybe 3 time on 3 different days and one girl it took me about 25 meetings.

Create an urge in her to have sex with you. And that will be enjoyable for both and then she is there for you even for the rainy day.

All this goes by instinct. I guess I have been lucky all the time. I have tried this trick in quite a few countries and it has succeeded. Only thing is that in Indonesia, the time one INVESTS is much shorter than in say, India or in the UK. Strangley I found that it takes much longer time in Singapore than in the UK or in a country like India. Dont know whether the climate has something to do with it.

John Aldrich
05-04-04, 18:33
Poturu,

Believe me I am not much younger than you in my early 40's. I am extremely short for a Bule. I am extremely ordinary looking and no girl will have a second look at me. I guess this gives the confidence to the girl that I am a safe guy.But I have had some wonderful time. In fact if you see one of the posts in the past, JAD had introduced me to a 21 year old 178cms tall model like girl and you can see the report of JAD thanking me for taking care of the girl.And we still are in touch. I am willing to listen to her ventilation of problems when ever she has one to. She knows I can never marry her.Yes good sex makes a lot of difference. But the preperation that goes into getting a girl into that good sex starts much before you meet her in the bedroom.It is not just slam bang thank you ma'am. For this I go to Maribaya, or pick up one from one of the ***** joints where you pick up pros.

One needs to get the girl involved into it with passion. And it does not happen only with foreplay. You need to motivate her to spread the legs and this happens only with your intellect. And she needs to be convinced that you are more knowledgeable than she is. Remember a girl gets easily turned on with the brain power of the man rather than anything else.Speak to her with logic and common sense about her interests and show some intense interests in her passion, though you may not like it at all. Still she beleives you are in the same plane and wavelength and this helps. 99% percent girls get turned on by the security ring that you put across them. And this security ring comes not with looks for a girl. The moment you are very good looking and you try laying hands on the girl, she fears that you are a casanova and the tendency is to withdraw., because her inner mind tells her that you may have a one night stand and just dump her. But when she falls for your intellect she wants you. But when you are a dashing guy, she thinks you want her and that is why you are hanging out with her. Thats the difference. remember most girls have a major complex when it comes to their brain power, and the moment you prove you are superior, they need you. And this evidence needs to be provided not with aggressive show off, but in a very subtle and caring manner. Put it across in a very subtle manner that yours is a superior mind.

I guess its a psychological game. Secondly, in Indonesia, the girls look for the security and even their sub-conscious mind yearns for this security. And we need to do is to touch the core of the sub conscious mind. Never touch the conscious mind. the moment you try touching the conscious mind, you get her into an emotional involvement, which is disastrous for a one night stand, and she will arm twist you into a long term relationship. Just focus on the sub conscious mind. And Indonesia with its major disparity in the male female population ratio, and its social and cultural problems in terms of marriage means that most woman want a security ring. It is in their sub conscious mind. Mind you, I mention sub conscious mind here. Not the conscious mind. Because their conscious mind will never permit them to get into something physical without a commitment.

But the moment your personality touches the sub conscious mind with a sense of security, they need you for atleast once. And their defence mechanism comes to the fore when it comes to proposing. The conscious minds fears they may lose you and the sub conscious mind feels they must remain with you without a commitment and it is more secure.

And you keep reinforcing to them that you are just a good friend. Nothing more. Age does not matter. Remember when you turn a girl on with your intellectual maturity and brain power, the chance of her reaching orgasm is 80 percent more. And this process starts much ahead of you even entering the bedroom. It does not take long. Because, I have been able to get girls out to the bed in about a couple of hours. But here are some where its even taken a month. In the entire process, one needs to allocate some time on a daily basis towards this passion.

But if you dont have the time, then just attack the massage parlours and the bars where there are hundreds of pros available.

Bulai69
05-04-04, 20:12
I hope I can add to the very comprehensive notes which John A has contributed on the subject of picking up girls in JKT. My comments apply to bars as well as malls. Firstly old age is not a problem, indeed on the whole it's probably a good thing because those girls who are looking for a longer term relationship see security, reliability etc and those who are prepared for a shorter one (eg 1 night) see a willingness and ability to pay them more money. I'm not suggesting this is actually the case but I know it's what they think.

Secondly, I agree with John A about tact in approaching them. I was in 30bar last month with two girls - one was my "girlfriend" (at least for few days) and the other was attractive, unattached and definitely looking. I was astonished at the clumsy, frankly idiotic approaches made by 7 or 8 bules to the girl who was "spare". Some of these guys she had actually pointed out to me as men she liked but when they approached her, or in some cases passed notes by the waiter inviting her to their bedrooms, she rejected them all. Hopefully none of the bules were contributers to this forum ! Obviously if a girl is a hooker she'll respond to any approach but if you want a good one, best to be polite ! Even a hooker will appreciate some respect and provide better service too.

Fun Times69
05-05-04, 02:39
John and Bulai are right. Something that struck me in Indonesia is how things are turned completely on their heads when compared to the west. Cute girls have guys dancing around them on club dance floors back home but in Jkt the bule have girls dancing around THEM!

Most satisfying.

Of course if you act the arrogant bule you will get nowhere. I know several who couldn't get anything which shocked me considering whats on offer. With a bit of effort though you can have a great life as a single guy.

Dick Nasty
05-05-04, 03:51
Hi all,

I went to Hai lai in Ancol some time ago. It was a Saturday night and they have a group of dancers that work for the club, not strippers. They wear sexy uniform and dance very sexy on the stage. I really had Mr Happy almost ripped my zippers. Does anyone know if these dancers are available to go out for a date, or even better if we can make direct contact wihtout going a mediator, eg. mamasan? You guys check it out there but don't come alone.

JP2U
05-05-04, 03:58
I love malling for girls and will visit Jakarta in the next few weeks hopefully.

How does one know if a girl is approachable? Most obvious sign is eye contact or a smile. If I dont see those first, I usually dont bother, even if she is potentially available.

However if she's too hot to ignore I guess you can try passing her a note with your phone no. on it. The advantages of this approach is she's not under pressure to respond instantly as she would be in a face to face encounter in which an instinctive "get lost" response may be in order.

This way she can take her time to fantasize either about a potential romp in the sack with you or about an extra wad of bills in her purse. Hell, you never know, she may not even be a pro yet be tempted to do her first trick out of need or opportunity.

Of course the disadvantages of this approach (of passing your phone no) could be if she is married or worse have a crafty boyfriend with ideas on how to mug you for all your worth.

Cheers

Dick Nasty
05-05-04, 04:04
JP2U,

finding girls in malls are indeed plenty. Have you ever passed some girl a note with your number and did she take it? Let me know if this trick works.

JP2U
05-05-04, 11:06
Dick N,

I've only briefly visited Jakarta a couple years ago and hadnt really had the chance to try it out, but have done this several times in Manila with good results. And I dont think it would be much different in Jakarta.

XXL
05-05-04, 14:43
About shopping mall girls

I suspect the limiting factor in bringing in non pro girls is not the girls' willingness but the local mafia. If it were not for the mafia, nearly all the girls in shops and malls would be queueing outside our hotel rooms to get fucked for cash.

Even if you closely escort a girl in and out of the hotel, the doorman ("security") will try get as much information on her as he can. If you put her into one of the cabs waiting outside the hotel, the doorman will instruct the cab-driver to write down the girl's address, or even worse, to deliver the girl to so-and-so. So-and-so maybe one of the local crooks or a policeman in cahoots with one of the gangs.

You may manage to "smuggle" the girls into the hotel a few times without any information getting over to the doorman. But in the end, something will get known, enough for those crooks to track her down. Then she will have to pay, or worse: she will be forced to "work for us from now on".

The worst thing is this: all this will happen without you ever knowing about it. Unwittingly, you may become the instrument of a despicable abuse. The girl you think will recall the generous bule who gave her a good night's fuck + a good wad of banknotes is recalling nothing of the sort. In her recollection, the foray into bule country was the end of life as she knew it.

This is why I'm not sure we're doing non-pro girls a service by luring them into hotels. We may be delivering them into criminal hands. If you're only in JKT for a few days or a few weeks and if you don't have your own place, it may be better (if only for the girls' sake) to stick to pros.

xxl

John Aldrich
05-05-04, 18:35
XXL,

IMHO, this can happen in small time hotels. Not in the big ones. And most girls rely on Blue Bird whose professional credibility is far superior compared to most taxis. Yes it could happen in some other taxi, but a guy is not going to pick up someone from the plaza or mall and just dump her out of the room the moment he has used her. We normally drive them back to a safe place or maybe escort them to the taxi. And all good hotels with a good name has Blue bird.And the traffic in most good hotels like Hyatt, Meridien, Atlet Century Park, or the like is pretty high for the door man to keep a tab and they do have more than one entrance and more than one restaurant too. And the traffic need not be only to rooms or from the rooms.

And to take a girl home on the first encounter is risky too.Maybe after a few meetings depending on the comfort level one could do that.But the idea of taking a girl to the hotel is to keep the anonymity. Because I have heard dreadful stories of the girl landing up at the house with a big gang and pushing you for a marriage or a hefty compensation. And I am aware of atleast in 2 cases where the guys were forced to marry the girls.

In fact it has been highlighted in one of the posts, in this forum itself, as to how one of our members had a tough time getting out of the problem when there were more than 50 guys arm twisting him into marriage or for that matter there was another member who had an encounter with a girl in Mulia and despite using the cover ended up paying Rp 3 Mn. because after having enjoyed the fuck through the night, the girl called him up within a fortnight and she threatened him by stating he made her pregnant. He also mentioned that he paid up not because he did want to but because she had his business card and the identity and that could cause problems in the work place and maybe at the place he lives too. Its not difficult to find the whereabouts of the guy once you find his office. The mistake he did was to have gioven her his business card and thereby revealing his true identity and whereabouts.

Occupational hazards are there everywhere. But if you have guts you have glory. And the fact is that the girl one is mating is an adult and the entire encounter is between 2 consenting adults. And she is responsible for her actions and so are we. And we need to protect ourselves and so does she.

And beleive me, while I have had fabulous encounters, the most amusing thing has been that I have not encountered a single virgin in the list of girls whom I have had in Indonesia. This tells the story.

In my humble opinion, I dont think we need to carry the moral burden. Because the girls that we may be encountering may not be professionals, but are for sure are those who have enjoyed sex with more than one partner or are used to flings. And if they have the guts to do that, then they for sure have the guts to protect themselves too.

Bulai69
05-05-04, 18:35
XXL - you make a valid point - there are lots of sinister under currents which the un-initiated may be unaware of. I think the risk you raise about non-pro girls can be mitigated however. Firstly, I think using a decent taxi firm (Silver Bird) helps, secondly, when they leave you can go with them and drop them off somewhere (eg mall) so that when they go on home they are not tracked back to what they have been up to. In fact many girls do that anyway - they leave in a cab and then get out down the road and catch a (cheaper) taxi or bus.

Also, for the socially responsible amongst us, it's worth noting that if you go with pro's in the Kota knocking shops and the like you are directly supporting an even more sinister form of exploitation. The girls in there are not free agents: they are the victims of a complex "sale and lease back" arrangement negotiated between their parents and the knocking shop. They see little of the money you pay them.

Surely the best solution all round is the true amateur who has a decent job already and the where with all the avoid the risks you mention ? These are the kind of girls you can find in malls aoutwhich much has been written recently. It does take slightly more time and effort to find them (hours rather minutes) but it's worth it, even apart from all the risk issues - just my opinion of course

Bulai69
05-05-04, 18:50
Dick Nasty - On the subject of passing notes - I can tell you that this definitely works and it's quite common. A more recent variant is to pass a note just asking for her hand phone number and then you sms her. That way if the girl is in a group she can communicate with you without her friends knowing and then just walk off and meet you round the corner to make arrangements.

Also it's useful in noisy bars where you can't hear anything. But see my earlier posting on being tactful which I note was supported by domfor. I find it always helps to initiate the contact with the kind of mind bogglingly embarrassing crap I can almost not admit to using. Also it breaks the ice if you say in it bahasa indonesia. Even you can't speak any more it doesn't matter. Something like "kamu cantik sekali" (you are very beautiful) is, in my experience, more effective than saying "I would like to fuck you" - an actual example which I saw on a note passed to a girl in 30bar.

Bulai69
05-05-04, 18:58
Dick Nasty - I forgot about Hai Lai: it certainly is possible to get these girls you mention but I can't be too much help on how. My experience a few months ago was that I did a favour for a very well-off Indonesian business colleague and in return he took me to Ancol for dinner and post dinner activities. I said to him, genuinely not expecting a result, that I would like to have one of those girls for the night. I'm quite sure the guy is a magician because there was no communcation (I saw or heard) between him and anyone else yet when we left in his car the girl I had pointed out was in the back seat ! Actually I spend all the rest of the weekend with her and there was no question of hint of payment being required. Obviously it would have been indiscreet of me to enquire into the details of this transaction

Dick Nasty
05-05-04, 19:59
Bulai69,

You were indeed lucky, I like surprises lke that. return to your car and have the girl waiting for you. Oh boy, feels like a million dollar, where in the US or western country can you experience something like that, unless you are a big shot or celebrities?

Well, I really like the girls at Hai Lai, so sexy, sometimes to get attracted is to see them in sexy outfit not just naked right away. they work your mind and build your fantasy.

I also went to Hartono (pipmp house) one day and check out the girls there, some are very clean and educated looking, others are ok. But for paying the high price I would rather do my own hunting, and guess what? I saw the nice girl that work at Hartono when I came for a visit at a cafe. I made my move and I didn't pay the big price if you picked her up from Hartono.

Some of the SW at jln Hayam Wuruk and its vicinity are also hot, and you can bargain with mama san, some of them don't have mama san. Has anyone tried yet?

Tamurlane26
05-06-04, 08:07
Concur with my learned colleagues that using Blue Bird - one of my clients !! and a reasonable hotel avoids these issues. I have been in and out of Indonesia for 10 years plus and have never encountered a situation of the girl being harassed by the doorman.

What has been the case is that if you are using a joint you are encouraging a more sinister trade of flesh and drugs and pimping. In the case of the bars and freelancers they are in it for themselves and pay no-one unlike massage joints etc where the greater proportion of the take goes to the mamasan.

As one mentioned its a question of guts and glory and discretion. If you want a long term relationship then hand out your business card if not then dont its much safer and the same applies to handphone numbers - pick up a prepaid on arrival and use that it saves money and also embarassment !!

Dick Nasty
05-06-04, 08:40
Hey all fellow mongers.

I want to know if anyone of you know where to go to find girls that are willing for a three some, such as 2 guys 1 girl. It is a wild fantasy that sometimes we just want to experience rather than always going the normal 1 on 1. Anywhere in Indonesia that you know? one night I was at BATS, and I saw a girl that went up with 2 guys to their room in Shangrilla. I don't know if she handle both of them, but that would be interesting.

If you pick up a girl at a bar in Jkt, and at the end her girlfriend comes along with you in your room but you did't ask for her, do you have to pay for her friend in case you end up boning her? Just some questions so that we know how to handle situation like this. lol

Bulai69
05-06-04, 13:39
Found in (Sarinah) mall

Tamurlane26
05-07-04, 16:40
Here's a tale for you all to laugh at!

Park Lane Hotel - Styx night club and a charming young lady asked me if she could sleep in my room - to which one readily agrees of course. Anyway as I had a meeting and was tired I retired hurt. To my surprise the door knocked at 3am and there at the door stood not 1 but 5 damsels in distress.

Aiyo Silver I thought alas it was a case of Goldilocks and the many naked ladies as they all went to sleep and hands were removed from any parts of the anatomy.

So 1 or 2 or 3 its a matter of persuasion !! The lady with the CD's likes to switch camps so if there are others who would care to roll her over then please let me know!

bilbo
05-07-04, 17:02
Hi all,

I went to Melawai, 6th floor about two days ago. A girl named Rima approached me and we started to chat. She is quite tall for indonesian girl, brown skin, long hair and a nice smile. She also have a very nice body. After finishing my drink, I went to the room with her.

On the bed, she was no dissapointment. She seems willing to do almost anything (except for anal), eager to please, and looks like she's really enjoying what she is doing. We ended the session with BBBJCIM.

Overall, if you're looking for someone who are willing to please and seems to enjoy her job, go with Rima and you won't regret it. I will definitely go wih her again on my next visit to Melawai.

Bulai69
05-07-04, 19:54
Hi Dick Nasty - in answer to your questions - you can get anything you want in JKT if you pay. I've never done 2 men, one girl but I'm quite sure you would have no problem finding a girl in any bar who would go for this. Maybe 50% would say "no": that still leaves a big number. You would have more chance I suspect if the action took place in a hotel in which you found the girl.
I suppose another way is to organise it through one of the many decent quality pimps, though I'm not a fan of using middle men in JKT as they rarely add value but always add cost.

2 (or more) girls and you is not a problem at all - look back at my postings and you'll see an example of "two for the price of one". Amateurs are often willing to do this as they feel safer, though you need to be a bit careful as sometimes you can get the "lowest common denominator" problem. I mean they may both claim to be virgins to each other but neither one actually is; obviously then you will screw neither in the presence of the other when individually you could have had either of them.

Personally I don't often go for a threesome, I prefer 1 on 1 so if I pick up a girl who is out with a close friend who doesn't want to stay around alone I just give the friend her taxi fare to go home. I mean actual taxi fare (say 20k) not the euphemistic "taxi fare" I pay next morning.

John Aldrich
05-07-04, 21:07
Hi Dick Nasty,

To add to Bulai 69's version, you may try Maribaya health centre in Hotel Melawai for a threesome. Each girl would charge 300K. So 2 girls would together would be 600K and the time would be 2 hours. Apart from participating with you in a 3 some, they would also do a lesbian show for you.

Have fun,

Cheers,

Dick Nasty
05-08-04, 01:06
John A,

I went there before John, but I like to take my time, 2 hours isn't long enough for me and I feel more comfortable in my room. that way I don't have to watch the clock. But I tell you I know more better place in Mangga Besar. Forgot the name just know how to get there, not on Hayam Wuruk though.

The girls are so young. I had one that was 18 and look so much younger than the western girls at the same age. They were so tight.

I really like to meet amateurs, the pro girls are too mechanical, do you have someone for me in your black book? :)

John Aldrich
05-08-04, 10:10
Dick Nasty,

You can get them for extra hours in case you pay them more. But for freelancers and non pros you have to hit the mall and turn your charm. Or maybe get across to a dating site like portalcinta or matchdoctor and get girl friends on. And take it on from there.

John Aldrich
05-09-04, 09:18
JAD,

Friday night I reached Plaza Senayan at around 9 pm and the place was closing. I just took a stroll around and then came out to the Lobby in the front, when I saw this cute little girl by name Vitri. I smiled at her and she responded. I just walked towards her and said hi and she reciprocated. After afew minutes chat asked her out for a drink and dinner which she agreed readily. Was off straight to TGIF in Taman Ria. Allowed her to have her 3 drinks of Gin Tonic and some food and then off to my place. Just too good. Turned out to be a real nympho with BBJ and CIM and a fantastic fuck. Had drinks in between to refresh ourselves and tried a whole lot of positions. Apparently she had not had a fuck for atleast over a month. And this came out in the way she was horny.

Where are you JAD. Am missing you.

Sidhartha
05-11-04, 01:32
May I pose a newbie question?

From reading this board it seems that:

Freelancers are easy to find in Jakarta. Is this also true for a tourist who is visiting for perhaps a few days?

They are not expensive (by western rates).

It is by and large a safe place.

Hotels do not have any objection to people bringing in freelancers.

And one other question, do older people, (middleaged perhaps) have as good a chance?
Reason I am asking is that I have little vacation time. A week is the most I can pull at a time. During that week I do not want to waste time searching, but have availability assured. Now, in Thailand, women are always available, as most of you know, (even on thre King's birthday if you look hard enough). However, I am always looking for new places and, if Jakarta (or Bali), offers a fairly good opportunity I would like to try it.

Thanks in advance for any answers.

Bra Bus
05-11-04, 06:16
My friends took me to a brand new karaoke + spa place that abpout to open in the next weeks or so. It is kind of sneak preview to the place, and it turned out to be more than amazing. The place is half brothels, the way it set up is unbelieavable. The spa downstairs is ewuipped with fitness, and sauna and also some full massage service with women from many countries. They offer almost everthing. The price is a bit high but the girls is high quality girls.

The fun part is the karaoke parts. All the rooms have all the standard bathroom and small bed for some extra action and just 1 floor above they have few small rooms ready for ST use with the girls and that drive me crazy. You can just basically take the girls upstairs for your fantasy, and not many place is doing this, I know.

So, I decided to take a chinesse girl. She cant speak the any language but she can definetly give you a good time in bed. The price is around 2 million, what you get is her companion for 6 hours for singing, etc and good fuck upstairs. If the girls like you, she will not mind how many time you got bangs. She will start with showers and start licking all the body parts before actualy goes to sex. Overall it is good experience and worth all of it.

Pete33
05-11-04, 06:47
Sidhartha buddy,

Knowing is only by trying. I am a 52 years old guy, above my hip, but still am 17 years old below the hip. No problem whatsoever buddy. Do come to Indonesia or even Southeast Asia in general and enjoy the fantastic hospitality of the people in this part of the world. You know, going and coming to Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia or even Singapore is exactly like making your first trip to The Big Apple [New York City], either you just love the place or you just totally hate the place. Try your luck and please do post you FR [Field Report].

Ciao

John Aldrich
05-11-04, 17:32
Sidhartha,

Age does not make a difference. But one needs to know how and what to do do and talk at the right time at the right place and with the right girl. Look at all the posts and may be you will understand. But even if you have approached the wrong girl, talk the right thing the first time. Never call her to bed straight away. And if you tell her the right things, even if she is not the type, she will only politely refuse and not create a scene, because Indonesians especially in Java, are by nature polite. But this does not mean that whole of Indonesia is. Not in Madura and Sumatra. Or for that matter in Aceh, you may castrated, if you try any thing funny.

In fact last evening, I was in Ramayana in Melawai and look at the fabulous girl I picked up from there.

John Aldrich
05-11-04, 17:34
From one more angle the same female. She works there i one of the stores and was finishin her shift and coming out. Her name is Dayu. MAybe walk in there and you will find her. Good BBBJ CIM and a real wet fuck. Paid her taxi fare of 300K.

Bulai69
05-11-04, 19:55
Sidhartha - your understanding is correct and just let me say what I said a while ago on age issue - old age is not a problem, indeed on the whole it's probably a good thing because those girls who are looking for a longer term relationship see security, reliability etc and those who are prepared for a shorter one (eg 1 night) see a willingness and ability to pay them more money. I'm not suggesting this is actually the case but I know it's what they think.

Dick Nasty
05-11-04, 21:20
Bra Buss,

Where is that new Karaoke? I have been to many karaoke similar to what you describe, that is nothing new in Jkt. But I like to check out new places so that I know.

2 Million for the girl with sex and the room for 6 hours isn't too bad. I have spend similar in other places.

Sidhartha
05-12-04, 03:55
Thanks guys,

I plan to be in Bali, on my first visit, in September. It's only for a week, so I don't know that I will be able to get to Jakarta. However, Jakarta was never on my list until I read the reports on this board. Now I may give it a shot. I am an Asian veteran - mostly Thailand - so everything will not be unfamiliar to me. If I do make it to Jakarta at some point I will try to get together with some of you who live there.

John Aldrich
05-12-04, 19:19
Hi,

About a fortnight back I was driving towards Sunter after having exiting from the toll and I saw a sign board of Paradise Spa and Massage. It was around 6 pm. I turned into the compound and went hunting for the place. As I parked the car and tried locating the place in the compound, a guy asked me whether I was looking for fs. I just brushed him aside and found the place. I was told that I had to wait for atleast 1 hour since all massage rooms and the spa was full. The very feeling of screwing the female back to back after someone else had screwed her was disgusting and there were atleast 4 guys waiting there.I stepped out of the place and the same guy who met me while parking the car smiled at me, outside the HC. I smiled back. He spoke decent english. He said his name was Agus and said he could take me to a nearby place behind the Sunter Mall for an incall service and it would cost me 400K plus for 2 hours of unlimited fun.

Though a little vary, I agreed. It was a out house in a large compound, looked like a studio accomodation. And I just fell for this stunner. I paid the guy 50K. I had 1 hour of fun, a bbbj CIM and a fuck.And it was indeed fun with an extremely wet pussy. I told the girl, that I would like to be back by about 10 pm but am not very sure about the route. She told me that I could spend the night with her for 600K and she is willing to wait for me near Sunter Mall at 10 pm to guide me back.

I went back home, picked up my digital camera, picked up a bottle of Bacardi and was right back at 9 45 pm and she was waiting for me there. I accompanied her to her place. It was real wild and passionate fun. And we were having a drink and then uninhibited sex. Left the place at 7 am in the morning. And the girl was not hurrying me back at all. She seemed enjoying the male company.

She told me that her name was ayu. She has some fun once in about 2 weeks and Agus is a friend of hers who helps her find some very discreet and clean guys.

I asked her how do I get back to her since I dont know the topography of the area and finding he rplace seems complicated.. She told me comeover between 6 and 7 pm in the last week and Agus will be hanging around in the car park and ask him whether she is available., And then he will check with her and then in case she feels like, then he would take me to her place. And in case she does not feel like, Agus will still organise someone for me for an incall service. And in case I want someone else then Agus is always available there all days after 6 pm.

But a gorgeous female indeed with a great apetite for sex. Here is her pix.

Dick Nasty
05-13-04, 08:14
Poturu,

Renting a car in Jkt is easy, but it is costly too unles some locals can help with this. Why not travel by taxi, you don't have to worry about driving in jkt's crazy roads and finding parking.

I do this all the time.

HRC
05-13-04, 09:47
Recently returned from Indonesia. This time stayed in the Intercontinental Hotel by Midplaza. Traffic wise is a bit better choice than Shangri-la. While I consider Shangri-la better choice, I just felt uncomfortable seeing the same people from the lounge in the BATS later in the day.

Anyway, back to business - this time I tried the malling scene, which seem to get most of attention in the forum recently. Honestly, maybe because I am just too cautious by nature, I didn't have too much success at the beginning. Ended up picking a 21-year old named Yulia in CJ's. She looked pretty hot - tall (about 5-7) and slim with a nice ass. Although she gave very good BBBJ, the overall performance was a bit rushed. I guess, I looked a bit disappointed, cause she apologized and said that she would accept whatever I give. When I handed 300,000 she gladly accepted.

After a wonderful weekend in Bali (I'll post report in the appropriate section), came back to Jakarta with the goal of trying malls again. This time went to Plaza Senayan. While wondering in Metro, was approached by a cute salesgirl. Started talking but soon I got a feeling that she felt a bit uneasy drawing attention to other salesgirls. I gave her the card with my number and left. She texted me in fifteen minutes asking to wait for about one hour. In couple hours we were back in my hotel room. It was an experience to remember. She didn't do anal or CIM, but just the whole approach was incredible - it was truly GFE.

In two days, I went to Plaza Indonesia, where after almost giving saw a cute girl sitting alone in the food court. I got something really fast and sat at the next table. Noticed a pack of cigarettes on her table, so I pretended that I was looking for a lighter. She smiled and offered a light. We talked for a while - she was a student and was on the way home. Asked her to meet me that night but she sad that she was just too tired, but she asked for my number. We got a cab together and she dropped me of at the hotel. So that night went to Tiga Puluh and returned with a tiny lady with huge boobs. She was very good but her professional performance left me nostalgic about that salesgirl from senayan.

The next day, I was determined to call her but received a surprising call from the lady I met in PI the day before. We met for dinner and went to Retro. Stayed there for a bit and wnet back to the hotel. She stayed the whole night and it was another wonderful GFE.

Thanks to all of you who brought up this topic. It might be more challenging and time-consuming to try to hook up in the malls, but the outcome could be very rewarding. Personally, this is not the approach to be followed if you're in search for a quick fuck, but that's the one of you're seeking GFE.

Cheers

John Aldrich
05-13-04, 17:38
Poturu,

Ask me about renting a female, I can be more authentic on that!! But let me try and tell you little bit that I know on the cars and bikes. Jakarta has a wonderful taxi service. The blue bird group is just fantastic and reliable. They have a metre and they charge by the metre. If you want a larger car then they have the silver bird. You can call them on phone and they will wait for you too. The blue bird charges you about Rp.3K minimum and then it goes by the metre. While the minimum for Silver bird is Rp.4K and then the metre ticks on. And they are available 24 hrs. I do see Ojeks, as the mobike taxi'sare known. Have never used them and can't vouch for the safety, neither do I know the cost. Guess, it must be cheaper since the cost of petrol is pretty cheap in Indonesia than in most parts of the world.

Marc69
05-14-04, 12:12
My two cents on the mall thing :
It is relatively easy but not that easy, and maybe not the best idea for newcomers. Experienced players like Bulai69 or John will locate targets easily by the way they dress, they way they look at you, with who they are...etc But to do this you need a minimum experience of Indonesian social behaviors and girls’ attitudes. They are indeed a lot of small signs that can show you which girls are game but it takes some time to master this.

If you have nothing else to do you will not mind spending hours walking, sitting at coffee shops and glancing at every woman passing-by, hoping for one to look back at you. However that's not my idea of a fun afternoon. Just walking in and scoring within minutes is improbable. It's good if you are with friends and do it while chatting or minding other things, not expecting too much. Then you can have unforgettable surprises. But if you desperately need a woman and you count on malls to provide your night's girlfriend, it can be quite frustrating.

For non-pro fun loving girls the “in” places nowadays seem to be Monaco at the Grand Mahakam hotel and Centro nearby. These are regular clubs for the rich and beautiful in Jakarta but scoring is also possible.

Bulai69
05-14-04, 13:22
Just to follow up on Marc69's comments. I agree agree on the whole, and I've said before, getting a girl in a mall is more likely to take "hours rather than minutes". Actually that applies even with the experience which Marc69 flatteringly ascribes to me (and John A and others). In night clubs you can get one in minutes.

Perhaps there is an exception with regard to sales girls, especially in the perfume depts, because they will come to you and very enthusiastically because they are on highly geared commission only - no basic pay. Of course their aspirations may not be entirely aligned with yours, however, they are sufficiently aligned to make it fairly easy to do a deal. If pressed I would say one in four times. Of course, it requires a degree of tact and sensitivity which unfortunately, not all westerners seem able to manage, but with the right approach it can be done. The proposition is very simple: I'll buy the perfume if you come out with me tonight. The logistics of the arrangement need to be risk free, obviously: if you pay first she may not turn up, though on the odd occasions I've done so, they always have. The risk can be mitigated by meeting them after work. Generally, it's unlikely they would blatantly con you because of the risk of a "scene" if you came back to challenge them in their place of work. That would be a risk they would not want to take.

Prosal
05-14-04, 14:43
Marc, could you write more on the Monaco at Gran Mahakam hotel : Centro is the current best hip late night place in town, but i never heard about Monaco, is it a kind of "before Centro" like Burgundy was last year a kind of "before Embassy", is it currently better than Blowfish, and is the location inside the Grand Mahakam .....

Thanks in advance

Pro

Tamurlane26
05-14-04, 17:32
Century Park Plaza Atlet

For the mall minded a wonderful location and close to both Plaza Senayan and also CJ's at the Mulia - also very girl friendly and large rooms into the bargain !!

Even on the night of Golkar Party in town - they took 100 rooms for the Wiranto Tribute night - there was no issue in taking girls up to the room.

Was hunting on Monday and found a nice pair one of whom cam back to the room and then departed however the next night she came again and then went off to meet an Arab and asked her friend to come and spend the night - such generosity ! Needless to say the friend did not need much persuading to have some fun.

The next night the original returned and picked up where she left off - albeit that she was demanding and given that the main purpose was to be there for business she was rendered a good service.

Alas I dont pack a camera but will vouch for all the comments in the mails - if you are there for a short trip stay in Atlet as it is convenient and reasonably priced and very handy for either mall moungering or disco hopping - so what ever takes your fancy both are easily available

God of Gamblers
05-15-04, 12:20
I spend last weekend at the Atrium and it is the happy hunting ground. It is fairly dead until 17hr at which time, as if on cue, the place is flooded with babes on the make. It is sort of like an ambulating 6th floor at the Maribaya.

The trick is to sit in the cafe on the ground floor (to the right when you enter) and scope them out as they pass. You will notice that you get one girl smiling at you every 4-5 minutes. It is then easy to pass a business card to them.

The real kill zone is cafe cappuchino on the 3rd (4th?) floor. It is flooded with girls craning their necks trying to get your attention.

There are no bules in sight, but many Arabs. As for the girls, they are all kampoeng girls. I quite enjoyed talking to them, because unlike the girls at Plaza Senayan and Sogo who are trying (futiley) that they are movie stars, the girls here are very sweet, unassuming and down to earth.

Decent Big Boy
05-15-04, 15:42
Dear Bra Bus;

I wonder where the new karaoke + spa place that you mentioned before.

Looking for new excitements.

Marc69
05-17-04, 04:47
Pro, Monaco is in the basement of the Grand Mahakam hotel. It is only 5 months old. Like everyhing in Jakarta new=trendy and it is packed on week-ends with the same crowds as Manna Lounge Blowfish or Embassy. It has a dance floor so it is not only a lounge like Blowfish, however it starts to fill earlier than Embassy, maybe 10-11 pm.

Marc69
05-17-04, 04:52
I have also heard of a new Karaoke belonging to the same group as 1001, with a much better location : Jl Thamrin.
It is called Zen. If anyone has been there, is there a massage service and is it as pricey as 1001 ?

Prosal
05-17-04, 09:30
Marc, thanks : I made a reservation in Grand Mahakam for a one month August stay, the fact that there's a club in the basement (this with the excellent location close Pasaraya) is a ++ !!

Any report about the 'Jet Set' upscale billiard lounge on JL Gato Subroto ?

Thanks

Marc69
05-17-04, 10:36
I have been to Jet Set in Menara Jamsostek once. The hostesses (the ones arranging your balls, no pun intended) are quite hot. And that's the problem : they know it, and are courted by wealthy Indonesians who offer them much more than I am willing to give.
Maybe ok to find a good one if you seduce her but overall they are spoiled.

Bulai69
05-18-04, 20:57
Poturu - If the choice is between those two, Aston Atrium is probably better as you only have to walk 50 metres to get into the Atrium mall (which is a mall not a coffee bar). It's not so up-market as Plaza Senayan or Plaza Indonesia but I suspect it's not Gucci or Hermes that you are looking for. God of Gamblers posted a good report on Atrium a few days ago which you may have noticed.

God of Gamblers
05-19-04, 13:57
If you're interested in malls, Atrium is one of the best. However, don't neglect Pasaraya. There are tons of chicks here on the make. I innocently took a girl to a cafe on the third floor called the Patio Cafe for a quiet coffee. To my surprise, there were 5 other westerners who had thought of the same idea.

It was a tad embarrassing, as we all seemed to into top heavy chicks. It was fairly obvious what attracted us to these girls. Mine was a 36D and the other guys had found girls of similar amazonian proportions. Needless to say, we shared some conspiratorial looks and sneaked a few looks at each other's companions.

If you go down to the food court, you can generally find a lot of girls on the make. The best place used to be a cafe that sold beer which was like a mini Jalan Jaksa (old expats with a gaggle of young girls trying to get their attention). That place has gone and nothing has taken its place.

Anyone have an update on Pasaraya?

Zippy
05-19-04, 14:45
Poturu,

I whole-heartedly recommend the Aston Atrium Hotel if you desire to meet local non-pros or semi-pros in a non-bule mall environment (Atrium Mall right next door). Right now, they have a 300,000 Rp per night special (about US$36). The Atrium is a quality hotel for that price- has a nice restaurant, bar, and even a decent weight room.

Arcadia is a nice hotel also and has it's own disco (I did not check it out, unfortunately, last time I stayed there) which looked promising.

I'd give the edge to the Aston Atrium, though.

Dick Nasty
05-19-04, 19:01
Zippy, where is arcadia, the in jalan Wahid Hasyim near sabang? Alias Ibis? what is the hotel rate there?

How about hotel athelete? is it clean?

Thanks

Mikey4321
05-19-04, 21:10
I will be going to Jakarta in about 8 weeks. Realistically how safe is it there for a Caucasian. Yes I have 1 purpose in going there.. and of course not getitng caught.

Thanks for any thoughts?

Menteng
05-20-04, 10:26
Guys,

I don't mean to be rude, but do you think it is worth to react on Poturu? Read his other postings! I get the impression that he's only posting to nag.

Pussy Engineer
05-20-04, 10:52
mikey,

i'm a caucasian male, and i've never feared walking around alone through any part of indonesia. both drunk, sober, and at any time of day/night. granted i'm 6foot1,
240 lbs, fairly muscular, and don't mind punching it up if i have to! also granted, i've never been to aceh or timor, so i've never had the misfortune of being caught up in an ethnic clash.

the thing to understand is that incidents like petty crime in this country are pretty rare. money is still the rule of law, and we bulai foreigners have money, and so the mud creatures aren't going to steal from us at the same rate as say an american hood gangster, because we can just pay the police to make their life a living hell. not saying it doesn't happen, but i'm willing to bet it's more prevelant in the usa.

i know that sounds both cynical and racist, but it's the truth. they see foreigners as a source of money to leach off of and cling on to, ie. 'can i be your guide, your shoe shiner, your get you anything you want guy', but very rarely have i been truely intimidated in this country. perhaps at 3am in a taxi that has conveniently 'lost' his way. but even that is rare, and at the slightest show of unhappiness, anyone is willing to correct any mistake you see them make [ie. 10$ can get you out of scary situations if the person you're bribing makes 40$/month].

they're much more likely to steal from you through structural means, ie. 'visa on arrival fees, pay the policeman because you were speeding fees', as opposed to actually hurt you physically and beat you up for money.

in short, i'm more fearful driving an armoured car through crenshaw or even walking alone down the street in seattle, than i am walking half drunk with 2 girls i just met at 3am in jakarta, but then again, i have some experience in these countries, and some things i take forgranted. ie. always leave wallet and visa card in hotel safe. when out partying/mongering, just take atm card and cash [ie. at any one time limit your losses]. always have 2 atm cards, [one in safe] in case one gets stolen or lost. always have a sim pin lock on your mobile phone if it's stolen, to limit the usage of the phone, always buy a sim upon arrival, and forward my american sim to that, and lock the american sim in the safe, always be willing to pay your way out of a situation - be it with government official, policeman, girl, bouncer, thug, whomever, everyone has their price here.

and finally remmember - it's the third world, you have money, you have power, so use it. if you're 5 foot 4 and thin, get a 'local friend' to take you around. the 40$ you pay him for the duration of your trip for the local knowledge and risk avoidance is a pretty cheap insurance policy for a guaranteed good time. what do you think it would cost you to befriend a local policeman even? i've done this in some remote cities, and it's rather comical...

best of luck.

Pussy Engineer
05-20-04, 11:41
Mikey,

I thought I'd also share the 'scariest' mongering experience I had in Indonesia.

About 5 years ago, landed in Surabaya for the very first time. After getting drunk with work mates, went off on my own to find a brothel, hadn't figured out dolly yet, asked taxi driver to take me somewhere 'remote' and distant in case I ran into work mates.

We pull up to gates of compound, 3am, I was drunk and horny, and I realized when we arrived that I've told the shady looking driver that I have money for a few girls, where I'm from, and that nobody knows where I'm going, and that I'm a wet behind the ears tourist dumb retard who wants to sex up as many indonesian girls as possible before I leave because I've heard they're really sexy.

Anyways, the guy gets out at the gate of the compound, my doors are locked, and this was before I had a cell phone. He takes for what seems an eternity to talk to someone outside, me not understanding anything, just seeing these devilishly smiling faces pointing at me from time to time. I find out later the guy is negotiating his commission, and NOT planning on slitting my throat and dumping my body ;).

Finally the gate opens, taxi driver doesnt' answer my questions, and just pulls right in, and the gate closes behind us. And inside it's all dark, no light, looks like we're pulling into the back of a farm of some sort. My heart rate immediately jumps, I take off my watch and hide it in my back pocket, thinking, here we go, time to get 'insta-sober' and knock some heads and start running. Maybe I can jump the gate on the compound!? Damn me and my sandles, should have worn running shoes!

Get ouf of the cab in defensive mode, expecting to be over run by gangsters all around perhaps?

Not 30 seconds after getting out - I'm not joking you - I was surrounded by what seemed 40 girls, all coming out of the bushes. Turns out there were little cottages behind the bushes, and they form a lineup. You take your pick, pay the pimp, and you're off to one of the guest cottages.

I paid the wet-behind-the-ears foreigner rate of 1 million ruppiah many years ago, for 2 girls for 2-3 hours. Yes I got scammed, but 1 million ruppiah is just over 100USD, which is an unbeleivable bargain for a jungle threesome with jungle babes in provincial surabaya. The situation went from one of the scariest incidents in my life, to one of the best romps I've ever had in my life. I made sure to tip the girls, the driver, and the pimp another 50,000 rupiah each, again, about 25$, because the service was so good, and because they didn't kill me and steal my money!

Best of luck.

John Aldrich
05-20-04, 16:26
Menteng,

You are absolutely right. In fact there are quite a few guys who keep only asking questions but dont submit a single FR so that all others could benefit. Neither do they give any info on where sex is available. One gets the feeling that Poturu" postings seems to be of that nature. While I am not sure what his intetions are.

Poturu,

In case you are serious, then please go through the reports of others in this list and you will find out the truth. And please do contribute when you have had your fun. The field Report would be of help to all others.

1Ball
05-20-04, 17:21
I spend most of my time on the Thai board, though do read here on a regular basis, as i live part time in Bali.
I must agree about Poturu, there seems to be no rhyme or reason for his questions. He has posted he doesn't find Indonesian girls attractive, (ridiculous), and at one point was looking for TV and TS. Draw your own conclusions.

Bulai69
05-20-04, 19:30
Menteng, 1ball and JA: Re our friend Poturu, I've tried to be helpful in spite of being irritated by his assertion that all indonesian girls are ugly: but you're right, the time has come to await some positive postings before repeating what's been said 100 times before.

Bulai69
05-20-04, 19:43
God of Gamblers- I agree about Pasar Raya. I would add that if you venture into the somewhat less salubrious rabbit warren-like old malls further towards Blok M Plaza where bules never seem to go, you can find girls working in the shops who are very easy to pick up.

Also, I may have said before, but you often get girls sitting on the low wall on the left between the two buildings (with respect to the direction the taxi's enter) who are on the look-out. Mid afternoon is a good time.

And regarding Mikey4321's question, my experience & advice is pretty much the same as Pussy Engineers - I've never had a problem in 12 years and I've been to some fairly shady places. I should add that my stature is somewhat more weedy than his too ! It just requires common sense and obvious risk mitigation measures. Apart from the measures mentioned it's a good idea not to wander around with an expensive watch - buy one for 5 USD in Blok M; it will last a couple of years at least. Leave a decent one in the hotel safe.

Fun Times69
05-20-04, 21:49
My only negative experience was down in pelabuhan ratu which is on the south coast of java where a couple of workers on the back of a pick up shouted out 'go home mister' as they drove past. This was when the Iraq war first kicked off.

Thanks to all who've posted reports about mall pick ups - its been a real eye opener.

Khao Rop
05-21-04, 05:39
Hotel Menteng I

Hotel Menteng I is on the left hand side of Jl. R.P. Suroso (one way street) in Menteng immediately after the railroad bridge. It is set back to the right of Heros supermarket. It has attached to it the Iguana Café Club and Karaoke and also the Hotmen Bar and Disco which are probably fertile grounds for vagina hunters but I have not tried either.

On the second floor of the hotel is the ubiquitous Health Centre. The receptionist did not offer to show me a book of faces (which are irrelevant anyway) and gave me the key to a very reasonable bedroom on the same floor. The advantage of the Menteng hotels is that the massage takes place in a normal hotel room with double bed, better quality and cleaner than Hotel Melawai and you do not have to suffer the wretched cubicles in Kota.

Massage is IDR50,000 per hour which is cheaper than Menteng II (reported by me on 25 May 2003) You need 2 hours if you want more than just a massage.

Let us be quite clear that you do not come to Menteng hotel massage parlors if you are looking for young chicks. These are places for people who want a massage followed by some fun with a mature woman.

First masseuse was Ibu Luki (No: 17). She is on the afternoon shift 11am to 7pm. She has a very good HJ technique which she does even without asking. Whilst lying face down, smoothed the cream into the crack of my ass then down over my balls. Inserted one finger into my ass and with the other hand slipped it under me and pulled my erect cock. One of the best HJ’s I have had. Tipped her IDR100,000.

Went back there the next evening. They gave me a room on the same floor but at the back of the hotel which is just 10 metres from the railroad track and there is a train into Gongdangia station every 10 minutes. My masseuse was Ibu Santi (No: 33). She does a hard massage but no sensitive stuff until the very end.

As she wanked me she asked if I wanted her naked and we discussed how much for a fuck and agreed on IDR300,000 which is bog standard for Jakarta. She stripped quickly. Had a well maintained figure and big pair of floppy tits which she wrapped round my cock. She had one of these vaginas that in one second you are right up to the hilt, but quite comfortable. I came before she did and she continued to wriggle around on my cock until she brought herself off.

I should add that whilst this was going on, the Hotmen Bar had just started up and the room was literally vibrating with the sound. I can understand why they reserve second floor rooms for massage. Together with a train at arms length every ten minute it was an unusual combination of sounds.

Zippy
05-21-04, 15:21
I agree that Jakarta is a surprisingly safe place to travel, as long as you possess at least a little common sense and street smarts. I've lived here for almost a year and the MOST negative situation I've come across was when I was making small talk with a gas station attendent.

After I told him that I was from the states, his affect became a little agitated. He subsequently said, "Amerika... too much....warring!" But I never felt threatened at all and I believe he was trying to have an honest conversation about something he considered an injustice.

Guy M
05-21-04, 17:10
Guys,

Just like to share my 2 cent with regards ro safety travel in Jakarta.

During the height of the riot in 98, i was there one week during all those commotion. Soekarno Hatta Airport which is usually quiet was packed with many foreigners 7 families leaving or staying within the airport compound trying to get out of the country and i just flew as if nothing was happening.

Yet my three days stay in Jakarta, i still manage to get hook up with college or what they called Kuliah Girls and had a good time.

These girls were found hanging around Plaza Sarimah were Hard Rock is located.

Common sense will always prevail and so long as you are extra carefull, smile back if they smile at you and not behave like a *******, then you will get along just fine.

Anyway, is HRC still a good place to catch those young, tight and juicy college girls?

Rgds and enjoy your stay.

Bulai69
05-21-04, 20:01
Guy M - you asked about HRC/Sarinah area - look back at my post on 02-21-04 and you have the answer !

John Aldrich
05-22-04, 08:55
Poturu,

Your messages to Guy and to menteng are the same. Dont know who is drunk while posting. But kindly look at all the posts here and you will find that in Indonesia listing we do not provoke or intimidate co members. And the postings foster mutual respect.

Frankly speaking, both menteng and guy have contributed quite a bit. But whereas we are yet to see any contribution from your side in terms of FR, except for questions being asked time and again.

Request you to kindly refrain from intimidating others. We do not want this list to become a place of unhealthy postings. Instead we would like to be focussed on the objective of the group.

And if you so desire to know as to what is acceptable and what is not, then check the banned members list, as to how many people have been banned for only asking questions without contributing.

Sorry for being rude, but your last posting on both Menteng and Guy was not called for. Please do not spoil the friendly atmosphere prevailing in the Indonesian section of the forum. This is all the more so because even an extremely patient person like Bulai69, has got irritated by your questions. And normally he is one guy who has never ever ventilated his mind in a negative manner. Check his post about your question and you will realise what I am trying to say.

I hope you understand and will henceforth refrain from submitting provocative posts.

God of Gamblers
05-22-04, 11:38
Lokasari report.

There is a fantastic massage parlor at Lokasari Plaza called Inti Sari. There are two floors with about 40 cubicles where you get a Thai massage (the girls walk on your back) then a baby oil rubdown.

Unfortunately, the girls don't do much more than that. They are all from the depths of Java and only giggle if you suggest any funny business. It all depends on the girl though. I have had various experiences and the last time I went the guy in the cubicle next to me was obviously having the loudest sloppiest BJ I have ever heard.

And a very important note: the cubicles have no roof, so all your comments will be heard. That's the reason the girls speak in a half whisper when talk turns to business. It's easy to forget this. A friend of mine reported that in broken Indonesian he once stammered out "Kamu cantik sekali", only to hear a cacophony of muffled laughter from the 20 odd cubicles around him.

So remember... the walls have ears.

The massage costs Rp55,000 per hour and the girls are all young and great masseuses. The phone rings after one hour and the girl asks, "Lanjut?", (continue?) and you have to make the critical decision.

The girls go by numbers. Number 1 is absolutely stunning, by the way. There is a spa on the ground floor, free with admission with whirlpool, sauna and steam but i haven't tried them. I go right up for the pijat.

Check it out.

Guy M
05-22-04, 18:05
Bulai69,

Read the report. Good selection and would probably taste better in real person.

Do you guys still pay Rupiah1 million for a month company with those Kuliah Girls?

Overnight of this girls back in 1997/98 was abt 200K. Most of the time, I fish for those in HRC. HRC Jakarta was at that time, had 2 section. As you go in, most diners will be at the centre and towards the left including the upper level on the left as well.

Towards the right is the bar and that's where we, single and mongers, hang out. I kind of like the idea of fishing the ones normally come in with other foreigners. Most of the ones that I've had were from fishing. Kind of exciting.

They have this saying back then, anyone ladies above 30 should not be in HRC? Is still the same now?

Reason why HRC was my favourite hang out was because my hotel is abt 500m away from Sarinah/HRC.

Potoru Mate,

Yes, we do drink beers in HRC but no getting drunk or even high. Most of the companions I've had, I repeat, is a result of fishing from other expat in HRC. Most of the time, the expats are more than happy to give away.

Rgds

Guy M
05-22-04, 18:07
John,

Thank for your kind opinion. Just let Potoru say what he wants to say.

I of all people will not be offended.

Rgds

Laser King
05-23-04, 06:14
Hello John,

You, Menteng, Bulai, JAD and perhaps a couple of other prolific contributors to this forum are the pillars of our Jakarta column.

Not unexpectedly there will always be other mongerers that do not share our views or opinions, however that does not precludes or forbids them from accessing this column. I understand and agree with your observation about Poturu being 'disjointed' and posting fleeting incoherent line of questions that ruffles me as well not to mention the rest of the crew. Nevertheless he is entitled to his "skew" opinion or perhaps unconventional wisdom that Indon. girls is not his cup of tea!

I lived in Malaysia and travels to JKT. at least once a month to savour the delights of Indon. woman and this column indeed provides the indispensable guide to my JKT.foray

Lets leave Poturu alone and continue with our fun in JKT.

Brother- make love not war.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to add a spaces periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid delays in future reports, please include one blank space after the period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

Menteng
05-24-04, 00:47
Laser King,

You made my point clear. Let's leave Poturu alone! Let's not waste a single word on him again nor react on his postings.

Member #1964
05-24-04, 03:58
Recently purchased a digital camera, so I can now share some of the beauty of Indonesia with fellow mongers.

The attached beauty was located through a long chain of connections that started at a certain bar off Jl Mangga Besar. I first started my whoring career in such places but soon tired of fucking in tiny dingey cubicles, even though many of the women were great fucks, especially in the BBBJCIM arena (Indonesian women are the best at this IMHO). So one day my favourite little fucklet at the bar suggested that she give me her handphone number (now why didn't I think of that!). From then on I just called her up and she would usually be at my place within the hour, with her sweet mouth around my cock 2 minutes after walking through the door.

The great bonus has been that each time I call my favourite little cocksucker with the big shapely arse (and can she suck cock!) I ask her to bring along a little friend for me to test her cock bathing skills. The pleasure of having one little brown beauty licking out your arsehole while you plunge into the sweet pussy (or may arsehole) of another cute little **** is hard to beat. And all in the comfort of your own home.

I make it a point of getting the phone number of the newcomer, so I now have a nice little network of home delivery slutties, with a variety of styles and specialities.

This type of mongering is so quick and hassle-free and just perfect when you don't have a lot of time. Of course, it's not the same as gathering up a non-pro, especially one who genuinely wants to have the pleasure of a fuck with no financial expectations. But it's one of the many delights of the wonderful big durian called Jakarta.

I'll post some more reports of my other styles of mongering, such as through websites, HRC etc. When I get a spare couple of days I'll also branch out into the mall-hunting game. I've seen and been given the eye by many many prospective mall fucklets in my time in Jakarta, but so far it's always been when I'm busy with another girlie or on my way to work.

Anyway, one of my favourite home deliveries. Check out that fabulous arse (or ass as you Americans say) - enjoy.

Member #1964
05-25-04, 03:02
To all those mongers who asked for my little home delivery girl's phone number. Sorry fellas, but if it I gave it out to everyone who asked there'd be nothing left for me!

If you can find her by yourself - silahkan. But I'm afraid I don't know where she hangs out these days. As I said, I just phone her up.

Just to keep you happy I've attached another photo of her in action.

Note the leg of her little friend. She's a bit older, but has tits to die for and a nice slim body (arse a bit small for me). She's also quite a performer, really gets into taking photos and posing like a pornstar. Not only does she like being photographed while sucking me off or being vigorously fucked, she likes to set up shots with her younger and slightly shyer (but still very willing) friend who appears in the picture below. She's also a bit of a public exhibitionist. When I first met her in the bar/fuckshop she was prancing around the customers in a see-through dress, with her lovely titties quite visible. It's something I've never seen before or since in a Jakarta bar. More like a Bangkok bar.

Both girls give some of the best BBBJCIM in Jakarta, which is really saying something in this land of superb BJ skills. Sure, I've had a mediocre BJ or two in Indonesia, but the basic standard is so much better than Thailand with all the religious hangups about BJs. Oh, apart from Bangkok BJ bars, that is.

Anyway, enjoy the picture. I sure enjoyed making it.

Alifulani
05-25-04, 23:19
With all due honor and respect to Bulai69 (hereinafter B69) for he is the one that convinced me to try mall wandering.

I just got back from Jakarta where I had decided to apply the scientific principle to B69's much acclaimed mall wandering approach. I decided to limit myself to Plaza Indonesia and to the area in the immediate vicinity of EXCELSO coffee bar.

Wow! If eye contact is made, and a smile is given or returned, then the game is on ! If no eye contact is made, then it's no-go. That is the basic distillation of what I found in several days of patrolling that limited territory.

Best times to go you ask ? Evenings 5 to 9 pm. Best day to go ? It varies but Thursday's and Friday's are hotter than the rest of the week. Where to go? EXCELSO is better than Starbucks in my opinion since you have to be seen to be a potential target and Starbucks is not conducive to that. In other words, you have to see the targets and the targets have to see you for the game to work. If you are in a dark corner, then it will take longer.

Rules of the game:

1. If she smiles at you once, then it could be an anomaly.
2. If she smiles more than once, then you're the fool if you don't do something.
3. If she smiles once and tilts her head, then you're the fool if you don't do something.
4. If you don't respond to the above, then she will assume you are waiting for your girlfriend and she will move on.
5. Time is of the essence. Don't waste too much time interpreting and calculating. Go for the "close" and worry about the details later.
6. If Ms. Right, i.e. your preferred body shape, style, hair length, coloration etc. does not come around, then be patient, soon enough she will. If not, then I am sure you all have your preferred "hunting reserves" in Jakarta, as I do.

Once again, my thanks to B69 for opening my eyes to this aspect of Jakarta life. Next time, I will concentrate on the perfume ladies at SOGO. I did see a few that seemed eligible.

On another note, I did see quite a few potential forum members patrolling the same territory. I wonder if they too are readers of this thread ?

AF

Calico
05-26-04, 12:01
Member #1964,

Keep up the good report and photo ! I enjoy reading it - it is a challenge to guess the road you mention off Mangga Besar. Any more hints ?

Jkt After Dark 2
05-29-04, 09:28
Member #1964,

Fair report. Nice picture too. I loose respect when people start posting picture showing the girl's face. Indonesian society still has conservative values. These girls have lives to run. I am glad you understand. Keep up the good work man.

Laser King,

I run a nightlife tour agency. I dealt with many clients with different budgets and preferrences. I fully understand when you wrote "not his cup of tea." I know he missed half of his life. Just ... leave him alone. He is happy with himself :).

John Aldrich,

I have been bussy in the past few weeks. I have another appointment this evening. I will get back to you once I am free.

Anyway, good reports. Very comprehensive. Keep up the good work man. Have you try Summo Shiatsu at Kelapa Gading?

Cheers

Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist

John Aldrich
05-29-04, 22:08
JAD,

Am so glad you are back. It makes a lot of difference when you are here. I really missed you. Hope you are doing fine and enjoying yourself.

Tamurlane26
05-30-04, 10:59
An International Flavour and Mall Hopping.

Have read with enjoyment and delight the various successes of my fellow mongers in Jakarta in this area particularly as there is a new threat to our pricing model !

On my last visit - have realised - albeit too late perhaps - that the market has been hit with OPEC Inflation. Much as the barrel of oil has increased so the number of participants willing to pay 1m Rps per night has also.

So lets us continue to head for the malls where our natural advantages on manners and language will stand us in good stead and learn from the masters JA and Bulai and widen the scope of the enjoyment.

To whit I add another to the collection of fun and games and she has a very stylish friend also. Apologies for the size of the photo as Nokia are still a welcome friend !

Enjoy whilst I enjoy my sejourn under ISA in the Land beneath the Wind before returning to the Land of Kretek

Bulai69
05-30-04, 16:16
JAD - I note your point about respect but I think you might like to reflect on a couple of points. I fully understand the nuances of Indonesian culture and it's conservative values. I also understand it's double standards in some areas, especially with regard to women.

I've been with many girls whose photos I've taken but not posted at all because they have been (I think) true amateurs with jobs, family, friends etc from whom they wish to keep their secret; I respect that. However, a great many girls, certainly those whose photos I've posted, are basically, running a business and as far as I'm concerned I'm doing them a favour by providing free advertising. If a girl frequents BATS, 30Bar etc every night and presents herself to every bule in sight for USD 100 she can hardly be complying with the conservative values to which you refer, can she ?

Tamurlane26
05-31-04, 02:12
Concurrence of Thought

Interesting thread on the issue of photos as it is one where we differ in part from our Bangkok brothers who seem more artistic in this respect !!

It is a natural conservatism in Indonesia that would lead us to follow the comments of B69. In all cases whether it is photos for this forum or general snaps it is always courtesy to ask the person being photographed if they are in agreement. The more lewd the photo then the less conservative.

For many photos on the forum fully clothed seems to be the norm of the day and with Jackson ensuring that numbers are restricted to pm's there is a more natural policing of the situation.

If a girl is photographed in her clothes is it any different from taking a snap shot in the mall. Should she not be an amateur then those of us who wish to obtain the number can always pm the donor of the photo.

Natural policing would seem to be the order of the day and means we can all enjoy the skills of our fellows without at the same time embarassing the receipients of our donations!

Happy Hunting all

Jkt After Dark 2
05-31-04, 15:24
John Aldrich,

Have you try "empot-empot madura"? Please share your experience if you have.

Bulai69,

You made your points. Very convincing.

If a girl frequents BATS, 30Bar etc every night and presents herself to every bule in sight for USD 100 doesn't mean that she is not running a double lives. I think they all do. You may think that you are doing them a favour by providing free advertising. You never know. Ethically speaking it is best for you to ask permission for taking their pictures and for posting their pictures the way you promote them "rent a pussy" :). I am sure a professional escort agency has comply with this consent. This is the reason I never question if it is a true escort agency who post the picture.

Recall a lady who was hospitalized after trying to commit suicide. Broken marriage. Angry family. I think she worked at Aryadutta. There was no picture. Only name and phone number. We don't what is the truth. I mean ... whether she really moonlights or not. But, this is the kind of situation they will face. Think about it. In the end ... saying uuups or sorry is not good enough.

These are just my thoughts. No offense. Peace!!!

Cheers,

Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist

Bulai69
05-31-04, 15:35
Sadly I am having to leave having only just arrived but I have to report on a trully fantastic experience!

One of our regular friends posted about Atrium Mall recently but I can't find the post - however I decided to give it another look. I normally stick to PI & PS because they are nearer.

I arrived at 5pm and the situation was as previously described - I would say I saw around 10 definitely available girls in 15 minutes wandering. I didn't partake as frankly, they were only about 5 (rating!).

So I walked outside and discovered something new (to me anyway) which is a new (?) hotel next door but one to Aston Atrium - just 3 or 4 minutes walk in direction of traffic flow. It seems very good and it's only 200k a night - but even better, they do a "transit" rate of only 130k for 4 hours. This will be of interest to some readers I think - certainly one in NL at the moment. There were several Indonesian guys "checking in" with young girls half their age and as well as that there was least 3 girls in the lounge area to the left as you walk in who were on the look out. I spoke to one of them who wanted 200k for ST. She was OK (6?) but the night was young so I declined.

I wandered back to the Mall and the action had increased. I saw two school girls (aged 18 and 19 as it turned out), one of whom very proactively (by normal standards) caught my eye. One of them was excellent: 7 - 8, the other just a 5. I asked if they wanted a drink (they didn't speak any English - maybe a problem for newcomers) and we quickly went off to McDonalds where they ordered 10 chickens, two sacks of chips and 45 gallons of coke. 1% of the way through this lot I asked if they wanted to come back to my hotel. The 5 (older one) said "yes' instantly but the better one in whom I had greatest interest was commercially switched on and wanted to get into financial negotiations (pretty unusual in my experience). To shorten the story I agreed 600k for BOTH with a Service Level Agreement enabling a performance related bonus ! (Even) I was a bit concerned about performance issues as I thought how can they be any good at the age. Bloody Hell ! I can tell you it's the best experience I've ever had and they got their bonus. But I can tell you no reader of this column would have declined to pay it. It makes 1 million for typical BATS girl a complete joke. Sadly only the 5 would allow a photo and even that - just a back view, but I'll post it later.

I don't often go for 3somes as you can get the lowest common denominator - but certainly not in this case

Bulai69
05-31-04, 15:43
On another subject, I mentioned the odd shaped new bit tagged on to PI a week or so ago, well I looked in again and it's even better. As someone said before "new is better" by definition in JKT. At any given time the density of population is 5 times at least what it is in PI itself. On Saturday evening it was heaving, I reckon in 20 minutes looking I saw 15 available and I actually collected 6 telephone numbers. There is a new HRC openning in July which I'm sure will be a massive pull at least to begin with. Just as an indicator, there was a queue of 22 people at Hargen Daas. Worth a look.

Menteng
05-31-04, 23:35
Bulai,

Thanks for the info and I think GoG (see posting 2904) will be pleased too. Are you refering to Allson?
I have received your your message and I'm very much looking forward to join forces again.

Menteng
06-01-04, 01:34
Last time I was in Jakarta, I hurried to the Carrefour at Duta Merlin for a sanitary stop. When I left the bathroom my attention was attracted by a sales promotion girl (SPG) at the Century counter who offered a free test to determine the amount of sugar in my blood. Since I was no more in a hurry, I let her do the test. After that of course she wanted me to buy a meter. I wasn't planning to do so and she gave me her phone number just in case I would change my mind. I asked her if it's ok to call her for something else and she said: "maybe". The next day I called her and asked if she would like to go out of town with me and spend the night together. She agreed and after she finished her job that afternoon we went to a city not so far from Jakarta. Well, the sex was not special and she refused to give a BJ. I was disappointed and didn't mind at all when she told me that she would not have sex again with me. The reason was, that she will get marry soon .......!
But she said, don't worry, I have enough friends who would like to meet you. "Yeah, sure,"I thought.
To my surprise, she called me next the day, saying that there's a friend of her, B, also a SPG, who likes to meet me. So I went to meet them at a Century counter at a different place in Jakarta. We had a meal and I asked B if she wants to keep me company that night. She couldn't, because she didn't want to upset her parents. But we could spend the next night together. I said ok and soon we left by taxi. SPG in front, next to the driver and B. with me on the backseat. I sat behind the driver. It was quite a distance from there to our destination at blok M. We passed some poor lit parts on our way and soon B's lips and mine were glued together. SPG knew what was happening back there and kept leading the attention of the driver to other things. In the meantime hands began to wander and soon I had a finger in B's very wet vagina and she was jerking off my penis. She moved her hips to the rythm of the thrusts of my finger and uttered sighs, smothered by my lips on hers. She moved her hips faster and faster, forgetting to continue the moving of her own hand on my penis and ...... we entered a well lit part of Jkt. She froze and stopped kissing me. I was flabbergasted and there I was, desperate and with a throbbing penis, ready to explode. I begged B to finish what she has started and while acting as if she was watching the traffic outside she started to move her hand up and down my shaft again. Then I whispered in her ear and asked her if she would let me CIM. She asked how, because if she just bends over my lap, it might draw the attention of the driver. I said, I'll pretend I dropped something and I will ask you to find it for me. She said OK with a conspiring smile. So when I felt it coming and trying very hard not to sound strange, I said the magic words. She bended over and though she was a little late to receive the full load, I had one of those very fulfilling orgasms. As if all my penis and scrotum left my lap. Of course it was impossible to stay in her mouth and get the usual follow-up treatment but who cares? When we arrived at the Blok M bus station I gave SPG and B Rp 50.000,= each to take a taxi home.
Thrilled by this experience I called B the next day to make an appointment. She sounded hesitated and I asked her if there's a problem. I thought maybe her parents objected against her staying away for the night. After a while she said, she would love to spend the night with me, but she would like to be paid for that. Thinking of what she did the night before, I did not mind at first. But when she told me she wanted Rp 1.000.000,= I changed my mind. I said you're acting like a prostitute now and if I want one, I can get her for a tenth of that price. She said take it or leave it. So I said, I'm sorry (I meant it) said goodbye and made new plans to spend the day and night.

(To be continued)

Pussy Engineer
06-01-04, 04:59
Bulai69:


...To shorten the story I agreed 600k for BOTH with a Service Level Agreement enabling a performance related bonus !

LOL! I love it. Let this be a lesson to the rest of you mongers! Always structure a Force Majeur provision in all of your SLA's with women that you meet through the lifestyle! I'll have my lawyer draft a template "penis licensing agreement" completed soon for all of us to share :).

Menteng:

Your ability to refuse an opportunity to repeat offend is definitely stronger than mine. You should have divided the 1mil rp. by two to get the average price per release (PPR), and added a 20% margin bonus for the risky road head. But there I go thinking like an engineer again ;).

All the best.

Mango Jango
06-01-04, 06:15
Hi Guys,

I'm planning a trip to jakarta.. thelast tme I was there was a few years ago but from what you have to sayon these pages it looks like little has changed in terms of the scene.

I stayed at the "international" Hotel (old gov't 5 star that has probably been torn down now). Very guest friendly.

I hung out at an Irish-mexican bar (yes in Jakarta) that had a semi-decent band playing and lots of college girls. My best hunting, however, was at a place calle dthe 'thuderbird" - a nightclub with tons of young college girls and a few guys. Some of the girls were hookers but others were there for the thrills... one girl i picked up came back to the hotel and banged the daylights out of me and that was v.cool except she was loud. I was there for a conference and the whole floor was full of delegates and i got some funny looks from my neighbors the next day.

The mall scene seems to be new.. will try it out. is the thuderbird still standing? any other place like it? what about the hotels? Any suggestions?

Cheers,

Mango

Shaggydog
06-01-04, 07:15
Bulai69,

I really like your style... SLA + performance bonus! LOL :)