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Aus Guy

04-10-05, 06:50

Cut a long story short, was visiting Bandung with a friend and dropped into the hotel karaoke bar. Btw, the Kedaton hotel has my vote as an excellent hotel for those wanting a nice inexpensive place to stay.

So we head to the bar after a night out and there is a gaggle of girls, some dropdead gorgeous waiting just outside the front door. the door guy asks if we want a 'singer' to join us in a private room but we decline, preferring to sit at the bar and check out the action.

Question is, how does the system work? So we take a girl into a private room, then what? Watch her sing for a couple of hours? Is she available to be taken back to the hotel room? Do we pay for her time as a singer? if so, what is the going rate? Seems an expensive way for a couple of hours entertainmet, room, plus singer, then a possible maybe back to the hotel room. Or am I missing something?

On another aside, the Puri Spa in Puri Kencana is one of the best in jkt. Beautifully done up, all dark woods, large jacuzzi, sauna, bar plus theatre and gorgeous girls. Rp128000 for 1.5 hr massage, Hj usually thrown in. Always give a tip afterwards around 50,000. The girls are uniformly beautiful, all newbies, trained on the premises.

Extra's can be had, private negotiation beteen you and girl. Ask for the top floor rooms, there are only a few, thus quieter than the floor next down. A classy joint.
There is also the massage place o the main road outside lokasari plaza, walk out, turn right and up fifty metres or so. Called 'Halomas', the girls can be lovely or plain, 6-9's available. Ask for a "mandi kucing", nice experience. Around Rp220,000 for a hour. Friendly ppl there

Mangga

04-10-05, 07:38

Thanks for the tips on Hotel Travel XXL, but you still didn't say where it is. 10 mins drive from Berlian could be anywhere.

I'm not generally keen on karaoke places either, but I'd like to check it out for myself.

Though I don't know how I'm going to fit the Hotel Travel in this trip. I'm only in Jakarta for 3 weeks this time and all the fucks I have lined up won't leave much time. There's my regular "pacar" I hooked up with on the internet a few months ago (who I fuck silly a couple of nights a week and pay her nothing but some extended cunnilingus and a mouthful of semen), two new internet connections I made while out of Jakarta, follow up some hp numbers acquired through the generous help of a monger on this site. The the usual visits to Berlian, a couple of dial-a-fucklet visits from established friends, phew! God, we mongers have to work hard in Jakarta....it's very very hard. Like I've said before, Jakarta is a shit-hole, don't ever come here.

Fun Times69

04-10-05, 09:06

Mangga,

From your post life must indeed be so hard for you, suffering as you are in Jakarta for three weeks.

I've been asking myself why, oh why, I'm heading back since booking the tickets etc - obviously I'm just a glutton for punishment.

Thank a lot for your directions, much appreciated.

XXL

04-10-05, 09:47

thanks for the tips on hotel travel xxl, but you still didn't say where it is. 10 mins drive from berlian could be anywhere.

there's an indo forum on the www at

http://www.deepee.com/openlist/putuss/0240.html

hotel travel's address is given as: "jl mangga besar viii (sebrang kimochi)".

"mangga besar viii" stands for mangga besar, side-street number 8. that's straight opposite lokasari. number 7 is where you find sierra, bintang mewar and halo mas. "sebrang kimochi" means "across the street from kimochi". judging by the chit-chat in the indo forum, it seems kimochi is a massage parlour as well . by the way, the forum mentions a price of 170000 rp. at travel, which is on the cheap side, a different experience from mine apparently. the forum may not be up to date however because it still goes on about disko atlantik in the lokasari complex. if i remember right, that disco closed years ago.

Jkt After Dark 2

04-10-05, 10:10

Dorman, Dorfor, and Mangga:

Hotel Travel Massage. Jl. Mangga Besar VII/21. Tel. Biz Hours: 2 p.m. - 2 a.m.

Adlian B:

Taman Sari 75. ST 200K. LT 400K Exactly at the back of Hotel Travel. Jl. Taman Sari Raya #75, Taman Sari, Jakarta Barat
Tel: 626.1111 and 626.7777
Biz Hrs: 7 p.m. - 3 a.m.

TS-75 operates a dormitory at Jl. Mangga Besar 4 E No. 2 D. Around 250 meters from Taman Sari. Tel: 601.3333 and 601.5555. I think all their girls are staying in this dormitory. You have to pick up the girls in this dormitory if you plan to use their service before their normal biz hrs. I think they start operating at 12 a.m.

Sukarjo Wiryopranoto 101. ST 250K. LT 400K
Exactly in front of the traffic light. Jl. Sukarjo Wiryopranoto No. 101, Pecenongan, Jakarta Barat
Tel: 626.0555 and 625.0789
Biz Hrs: 12 a.m. - 3 a.m.

Girls at Sukarjo Wiryopranoto are staying in.

Taman Sari 57. 2 Categories: ST 300K and 400K. LT 600K and 800K
Tel: 625.2450 and 625.2470
Biz Hrs: 12 a.m. - 3 a.m.

Opinion. Sukarjo Wiryopranoto is a joke. Bad service and attitude. The girls don't behave right. Seems they are not happy with their job. Try Taman Sari instead. The drawback is they are racist. They only service locals and selected Asian nationals like Chinese, Korean, and Japanese. TS-57 services all nationals. Good attitude. Good service.

Anyway, good luck. Whether the experience is good or bad, pls post your encounter in the board. Many guys are interested with your story.

XXL:

Hotel Travel is about 500 meters away from 1001.

There are 3 businesses at the 2nd floor. Restaurant, Karaoke, and Massage Parlour. Turn left after you step out from the elevator. Walk to the end. You will find a massage center inside the door in the corner.

Karaoke girls will cost you more than bordello massage girls.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Jkt After Dark 2

04-10-05, 13:31

XXL,

Good research. But some of the info is more than 10 yrs old: like girl and room for less than 100K. Now Hotel Travel Massage is 200K for 1 hr including the room. Karaoke girls at this hotel should cost you between 700K-2 Million Rupiah excluding the room.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Lord Weasel

04-10-05, 15:20

Coincidentally I was chatting to an Indonesian girl yesterday and she told me that the Avenue Bar in Hotel Sari Pan Pacific had strippers, I took that with a large grain of salt I have to say but I pass the info on for what it's worth.

Bulai you mention how Jaksa gets little mention around here (rightly so in my opinion, I don't like the place at all) but what about another Jakarta landmark that is never mentioned, Bugils Cafe? I never go there but it's supposed to be legendary, what's your opinion? And has anyone heard of the Three Horses bar, it apparently caters mainly for the Arabs and Africans but is reputed to be quite a hot spot?I stayed at the Srai Pan for many weeks last year and went into the Avenue a few times. Is completely dead every time. However, the 1st time they asked me for a business card to win a bottle of something....well, didn't win but now I get an email from the place about every 2 weeks (gah, note to self never gove out business cards), they have a "MetroSexual" night every now and then advertising wet T shirt comps and g-string nights. Never been back so can't comment on quality.

Lord Weasel

04-10-05, 15:25

Sorry for the newbie type question,

I wanted to check out Jl Jaksa one time to break out of my Blok M habits. I looked the place up in the map at the back of Jakarta 24 mag. Looks like it is on a road behind the Sari-Pan Pacific hotel, with 'Tony Romas" at one end. Can anybody confirm? I keep a couple of long termers in JKT who I have known for about a year one took me through Jl Jaksa "the RLD", but it was completely dead from what I could see from the Taxi, and was nowhere near Tony Romas. Didn't stop. So I'm confused, are there multiple Jl Jaksa? If so which is the "interesting" one?

Menteng

04-11-05, 00:07

LW,

That was the jl Jaksa you were looking for and there is a Tony Roma in the street at the end of jl Jaksa. You should have left the taxi and entered one of the cafe's or bars in that street. It is not like jl Palatehan I,where a lot of girls are waiting inside AND outside the bars.

Adlian B

04-11-05, 11:40

Hotel Travel is on my list of places to avoid, along with other spots where I'm not welcome, like 1001. It's a ten minutes' drive from Berlian. I posted some comments about it two years ago.

It was middle afternoon well outside peak hours. All the same, absurdly high prices were quoted to me for a short-time in one of their karaoke rooms. That's something I interpreted as "go away sir, and don't ever come back, we don't want you". Was it simply because I'm a bule and they only want Asians (preferably Japanese), or more specifically because I'm a bahasa-speaking bule, whom they see as one knowing the terrain and unwilling to get fleeced.

The unfriendly reception was not entirely unexpected since it is mainly a Karaoke place. Now whenever I see "Karaoke", I read "not for me".

I once did a Hotel Travel girl on a Saturday Night in Stadium disco though. She was called "Nufi", very good lay. She told me Travel belonged to the same boss as Stadium (what doesn't in that area?). She'd just dropped in after work at Travel for a bit of disco fun. The Stadium mamasan had run out of girls to present me so she'd grabbed Nufi's arm and touted her to me as "freelance" (mamasan's own words). Nufi told me an eerie tale of corpses ("roh halus") kept in Stadium's attic, allegedly the bodies of girls who had died in harness. Indos are awfully supersitious but she got me wondering all the same about Stadium's gothic interior and its mysterious 5th floor.

xxlAs far as I know, karaoke places charge lots more compared to the usual bordellos. Let's just say they are more high class? Thus the prices. I've been to 1001 on saturday just to check things out and yes, their prices are insane. Local cost 500,000. Import Chinese, Thai and Uzbek / Russian cost 2,500,000. Those are for 3 hrs if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't say they are racist or anything, that's just the market price.

Adlian B

04-11-05, 11:54

JAD,

Where is this Taman Sari 57? Is it at Taman Sari Raya too? House number 57? Is the biz hour correct? 12am till 3am? That's like in the middle of the night. And dorm for TS75 start operating at 12am? Do you mean 12pm? Also, do I like just stroll in to these places? Or do I have to mention some passcode? I assume they kept closed door/gate.

Just something I would like to share. I've been to Sari Ayu over at Pangeran Jayakarta on Sunday night. My advice is not to go there on Sunday night since 30% of the girls are off on that night. Nevertheless, been there thrice last couple of weeks and I think the management did a large overhaul of the establishment. Lots ofnew girls and excellent services. The problem with Sari Ayu in the past is that despite they have excellent, pretty hot girls (average teens to early 20s), most of them have attitude problems and lousy services. But not anymore since I'm might satisfied from the last few visits. However, fluent Indo is necessary.

Jkt After Dark 2

04-12-05, 09:45

Adlian B,

Yap. Jl. Taman Sari Raya No. 57. Place a call instead of asking everybody. 1001 is classified as bordello karaoke. Travel Hotel Massage Parlour is classified as bordello massage parlour.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Vulcanizer

04-12-05, 19:28

Hi people, sorry its been so long! Just a quick one to say that life in deepest darkest Surabaya still ceases to amuse and in this case scare the shit out of me!

T'was a friday night, post bar time and i was going home on the bike when the Urge came over me. So to a large but quiet road I went, not the usual ground but worth a look i thought. And there it was a drive-in massage parlor. So in i rode, parked up and approached the desk. A man in a dress appeared, and that aint that rare in this fair city! I asked him/her(i'd spotted the bad lip gloss and blusher) if the girls were in. He came closer, told me it was late and the girls had gone home. He then took out his teeth and offered to blow me for 1o,ooorp! Picture if you can myself rubbing my wrists looking for a watch i havent worn for many years, and having to fake a look of pain holding my back muttering, no bleating words of pijat santai2. Things aint what they seem down ere!

As an after thought im house bound enjoying arak and this forum. Thanks y'all!

Member #1814

04-14-05, 04:05

Hello,

I'm in Jakarta all next week and can't be bother to look around for some cuties. Any chance some of you have contact details of girls I could call up for them to come over to my room? I'll be staying at the Mandarin.

Thanks,

T.

Masked Avenge

04-14-05, 10:43

Is anyone aware of a book called "Jakarta Undercover"? Is it available in English? If so, where can I get it? Quite a good read about the different sex scenes in Jakarta, but I have only seen a Bahasa Indo copy.

It's getting closer to my holiday - April 22 to Bali, Surabaya, Yogya then Jakarta approx. 12-19 May then back to Bali for a couple of days. If anyone is interested in catching up for a bir bintang or 2, let me know.

Keep on rockin'.

Kl Tonight

04-14-05, 14:11

Hello all,

Pardon me if i sounded long winded, but have a look at street map, there are many roads called Taman Sari 7, Taman Sari 11 etc. Where is the exact Jln Taman Sari Raya?

Can somebody enlighten me. Say I am right in front of Lokasari Main Gate, Jln Mangga Bear. On my right is towards Hayam Wuruk/Mercure Hotel, and directly opposite is Sparks Hotel (which is a good value hotel, I stayed there last weeks, get a local ppl to check in 350k NETT incl breakfast, highly recommended), where shall I go? I assume I should head left then.

Thanks mate,

LC

Lord Weasel

04-14-05, 15:17

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9pm – till drop.

Live Music with SEmbilan Band, Residents DJ with Dj Sanny dJohan & Dj Iwel

For more information please call: Avenue Club & Lounge, Hotel Sari Pan Pacific Jl. M.H Thamrin No. 6 Jakarta 10340

Dorman

04-15-05, 05:35

Hi guys, I'm stuck in Singapore for a couple of days and it's a real eye opener, it is truly sad how they live up here. Oh sure they've got clean, traffic jam free streets, an excellent subway system, great infrastructure, efficient services, competent and honest government, universal English spoken and breathable air but what does that matter compared to the important things in life?

I visited the Orchard Towers last night, the famous 'six floors of *****s', though I'd normally steer clear of a mongering venue where the real girls battle for turf with the ladymen and where the ladymen appear to be winning. I was in the main bar, Ipanema, and I cringed watching the expat guys chasing tail. They were still in their suits from their offices having finished doing whatever it is they all do in Singapore and really letting their hair down, they actually outnumbered the girls. The opening bid from the girls was SIN$200 (about 140 US) and these guys were fawning over them, they were strutting and jostling each other to get the attention of the sort of girl you'd give 10,000 rps just to stop her giving you a back rub in D's Place.

These were crazy dudes though and no mistake, you could tell that by the way they opened their shirt collars and losened their ties before playing air guitar on the dance floor as 'DJ Danesh' played his Bryan Adams medley, Christ it was like a bad episode of 'The Office'! You just know that when they returned to Blighty they'd be regaling their mates with their tales of wickedness in the fleshpots of the East.

Notwithstanding anything I said the other week if any of these guys ever discover Jakarta and come down here with their stupid money we're all in for trouble, so do us a favour if any of you are up in Singapore on business tell them how awful it is down here we really could do without them. Now where's my Garuda ticket, 6pm flight, splendid, I'll be in Paradise bang on time for my Friday night party.

Gzono

04-15-05, 07:43

Great perspective Dorman a bit close to home maybe

I could not agree more. I have to endure these tossers too but I meet them in Jakarta-bald UK fat arrogant and they take themselves seriously-they truly think they are really 'handsome man' I witnessed some Red bull and Vodka tattooed creatures in Batam behaving the same way-they must think bule are from Mars. Sure they are nice guys when sober.

I do note however, as I progress to middle age that I too could be one of these caricatures-please remind me if I do start dirty dancing with a 18 year old girl-mirrors do the trick!

No offence to any readers just some wild generalizations.

Pete33

04-15-05, 07:53

Dorman buddy,

Fantastic FR., thanks buddy.

Those are the reasons why I prefer going to either Jakarta or Surabaya for my R&R out of my home-sweet-home in the middle of the jungle of Borneo.

Ciao

Jkt After Dark 2

04-15-05, 08:47

Member #1814:

Check out www.adultclassifieds.info for this kind of service.

Masked Avenge:

As far as I am aware I think Jakarta Undercover is not available in English version. It exploits the under side of Jakarta in such a way that I don't think it is suitable for Bules. It is more for local consumption life style: high class escort agencies, swinger party event organizers, etc.

I believe this Forum and www.adultclassifieds.info provide more suitable info for guys like you. For highlight info on what Jakarta has to offer you can also visit my site.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Adlian B

04-15-05, 12:11

Limpeh Cheong,

From Lokasari main gate, turn to yuor left and you'll see a train bridge. From there, on your right you'll see a Thai restaurant. The road next to that restaurant is Taman Sari Raya.

Masked Avenge,

That book is complete bullshit. I got the english version and translation is awful. Heck, I'll give you my copy if you want.

Vulcanizer

04-15-05, 19:29

Nice portrayal of the 'suits' sir! Im off to the 'fine' city in June on a visa run. Anywhere you'd recommend, or really only Indonesia? What about malaysia, got any tips for there? Have missed your posts! Cheers then.

Travel to Monger

04-16-05, 00:45

Masked Avenge

04-16-05, 04:08

Thanks for your advice about the Jakarta Undercover book. It's good to hear other opinions before handing over my cash.

Can anyone tell me about Club 27 (location, activities etc). It sounds interesting on Saturdays, judging by the comments of Mr. Menteng.

Nashboy

04-16-05, 16:59

I've never tried buying vitamin V in Indonesia, however, if you have a little time before your trip, I would highly suggest you go to www.rx-mex.net and check out their generic Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. If you buy a shitload of it, it can cost as little as $1.99 per pill. In reasonable quanitities (say 30 or so) it runs about $3 per pill (100 mg). These guys have a great rep and excellent customer service (I was ripped off by two different websites selling fake generics before I discovered them). I've referred dozens of people to this site from my Canadian prescription business (Viagra, etc. actually averages a bit more in Canada) and my customers (most of whom are seniors) swear by it.

Three other bonuses; NO prescription is needed, no lengthy form to fill out and they guarantee their prices, so if you find it cheaper on the web, let them know and they will match the price you find, plus take off another 5%. Hope this helps!

PC Bum

04-16-05, 17:12

Hey guys,
Anyone going to be in Jakarta in early June? I will be there June 5 - 16 and I was wondering if anyone could help a brother out. I will be with a group and cannot monger much, but any help would be appreciated.
Thanks and keep a posting.

Bulai69

04-16-05, 18:24

Just returned to UK and catching up on postings - never have time when I'm in Jakarta. I must comment on Buc Punter's post about "mall hunting" - sorry if the term offends.

He says:

"I just dont want guys thinking they are meeting different girls in the malls than they are meeting in the discos. The ones you can pick up in the malls and have sex with that night are the same exact girls you will meet at night in the discos with few exceptions."

Sorry but I just don't agree. Of course there are a lot of girls who go in malls during the day and night clubs at night but there are great many who do not. I agree also, that girls can be found everywhere not just in malls but, as Menteng points out, there is a large concentration in one place so why make it difficult by scouring the streets?

In Indonesia, even girls in their late 20's can be under strict parental control to the extent that they can go out into malls during the day (with their friends) but never at night. Many of these girls can be picked up and taken back to hotels for a 300k or so. A lot of Indonesian men (kucing) hang around looking for them from 3pm onwards usually. I've posted about such girls I've found but not posted photos as they are from good families.

Also, another class of girls found in malls but not clubs, is the "lowerer" end as found in Atrium in particular. I have posted quite a few photos of these. They don't have the money to go a club (ie BATS etc) and if they tried they they would never be allowed in.

The other point about malls, fairly obviously, is that there are hundreds of SPG's and waitresses working there who are easy targets. Although some of these can also be found in clubs the majority still live at home because they can't afford a rent room. Hence they can neither afford to go to a club nor would they be allowed out by their parents.

So I suggest that mall hunting is by no means a waste of time: yes some of the same girls can be found in disco's etc but there are many others to be had. And, yes, similar girls can be found elsewhere, but what's the sense in fishing with a rod and line when you can go to the market and select from dozens laid out in front of you?

Dorman

04-17-05, 04:36

On the subject raised by Nashboy I was curious as to the best place to buy Viagra or preferably the generic stuff. It's not for me you understand - heaven's no, I never need the stuff, it's er, for a friend, he asked me, never use the stuff myself, no not me, ha ha, but my friend occassionally has a bit much to drink and he likes to have a little blue fall back position if you know what I mean. So where's the best supplier? I'd be...I mean HE'd be very grateful, ahem, just asking.

Menteng

04-17-05, 11:11

Dorman,

No I don't mean the serial with the green creatures that was on tv once, but the blue pill your, ahem, friend is looking for.

If your friend lives in Kebayoran, he might know where (pasar) Majestic is located.
Enter through the main gate (the other gate is where the MP's are). Walk straight ahead into the lower building (the one with two stories is the actual pasar and is located behind the lower building). After 10 meters, a little to the left, he'lll find several stalls selling medicine. Let him look for Apotik Kawi Jaya. (It is the only crowded one). They also have Levitra.

Cheaper are the stalls at your, err, his left hand side about 50 metres before reaching Lokasari, coming from Hayam Wuruk.

Another option are the Apotik Melawai. Just walk in and let your friend say the magic words: "Ada Viagra?" No prescription needed.

Tiny 12

04-17-05, 18:41

There's an interesting and well-written interview with a Blok M hooker in article below. You have to skip down to the part that's titled "ELLY". For some strange reason, this is smack in the middle of an article about Bule women in Jakarta.

http://www.jakarta24.com/main_article_072004.php

Jackson, this isn't an adult or competing web site, so I assume I'm not breaking any rules here.

Alifulani

04-18-05, 02:12

There are some really beautiful women in Jakarta ! Now, I already know that some of you prefer their lighter skinned sisters. That is fine, it just leaves more of the tawny beauties for the rest of us.

I have known this one girl for several years now (see pic), and have always met up with her whenever I am in Jakarta. There is something about her that is captured in this "fantasy photo" without blatantly being pornographic. The sexiness is inherently captured.

To continue: on this most recent trip, I made the big mistake. There is no bigger mistake a monger can make when mongering. Basically when I stop thinking with my brain and relinquish control to the animal in me, I usually end up making similarly foolish mistakes. This time, I broke down and got an extra "magnetic" key for my room and handed it to her. I might as well have removed my cock and balls and handed them to her as well. After all, I surely wasn't going to be needing them without her say so.

Now that I look at that picture, I can imagine worse ways to spend a week in Jakarta, but I return to my first sentence. There are many beautiful women in Jakarta. I just seem to have noticed more of them during my recent week there. As all mongerers, I will always believe that the "grass is greener on the other side of the hill.".

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Dorman

04-18-05, 05:23

Thanks for your help Menteng, I'm curious that you say the stalls on the way into Lokasari are cheaper, I was once quoted 80 000 rps per pill for genuine viagra at one of these stalls which seemed a bit steep, they didn't have the generic stuff, I can usually get Kamagra in Bangkok for cheaper than this. Is that the going rate?

I understand the somewhat more simple approach of walking into a pharmacy and just asking for the stuff it's just that invariably the girl behind the counter is a sweet faced teenager often wearing a jilbab and I can't bring myself to ask them.

Buko Max

04-18-05, 06:34

Alifulani,

That is a excellent shot, I must say! Very tasteful! If WSG had a photo contest, they would have to give it serious consideration. You can tell from the photo that you have a great rapport with her. Since you have known her for a while, I think giving her an extra card key was okay. As long as you can safeguard your valuables.

If the grass is greener on the other side, I will have to take a trip to Jakarta asap. From where I sit, I think you have found a nice little piece of turf. You might want to mow that lawn until you have found the queen of the green!

Adlian B

04-18-05, 09:36

You might wanna be careful buying medicines from those Lokasari stalls.

Half of the stuffs over there are fakes.

Menteng

04-18-05, 10:47

Dorman,

The stalls I mean are not the ones inside Lokasari. They are outside. Like I wrote, about 50 meters on your left hand side when coming from Hayam Wuruk. Okay, maybe 100 meters, I'm not good at estimating. And, also important, they close at night.

I'm not familiar with the price of the blue ones, because I use Levitra. Inside Lokasari they asked Rp 90.000,= At the outside 260K for four pills of 20mg. So I gather that the price-policy on the blue ones will be the same.

About the sweet-faced jilbab teenage girls, one of my last encounters before leaving Jakarta in february was with one of them. I enjoyed it so much, that one hour before heading to the airport we had a last meeting in hotel Melawai.

El Culion

04-18-05, 14:14

Menteng

04-18-05, 23:56

Culion,

Losari is the better place to stay but if you like to culiar without leaving the hotel, Melawai I has it's famous 6th floor. L has breakfast included, while M does not.
I prefer the bar in M, because of the presence of the girls who work on the same floor.
It gets quite noisy on the Japanese karaoke quarter side when you stay in L. Therefore try to get a room overlooking Blok M plaza.
Distance between the two hotels is about 500 meters.

Menteng

04-18-05, 23:59

Culion,

I forgot this.

The hotels in jalan Jaksa are much cheaper. Read Jaimito Cartero's contribution for further information on that street.

Dorman

04-19-05, 04:04

Thanks Menteng

Your advice, as always is very helpful, I've never tried Levitra, how does it compare?

You do raise an issue which has bothered me a little over the past few months and which I was inclined to raise here but didn't for fear of causing offence in this sensitive time. If what I ask is regarded as pushing too far at the limits then let me know and I will delete this post.

Anyway here goes, a few weeks back I was sitting outside a government in office (actually in your parish Menteng), waiting while my girlfriend worked through the interminable business with the official inside, ie negotiating the appropriate bribe. While I was waiting a pretty girl walked past caught my eye and, walking a little further, looked over her shoulder and smiled at me before going inside. About 30 minutes later (no doubt the official was holding out for twenty percent hence the delay) she re-emerged, smiled again and walked to her car, before she got in she looked over again, smiled again and waved at me and then drove off. Big deal I hear you ask, why the heck didn't I run over and get her handphone number? Well even I'm not entirely stupid and in the normal course of things that's what I would have done (silently praying that the war office didn't reappear while I was doing so). However the problem was that the girl was wearing a jilbab and to my eye that's like a neon sign staying "STAY AWAY OR DIE!"

If it was only that girl then there wouldn't be a problem but it gets worse. Since coming to Jakarta I have dealt with a particular agent who has always been very efficient, we get along very well and I would consider her a friend. She's very attractive, thirty one, has a two year old daughter and is married to an Arab guy and she is always in a jilbab. We frequently exchange sms messages and emails, she calls me 'babe' and 'darling' and flirts with me but in a manner so innocent it would embarrass an elementary school girl. I have occasionally 'joked' about having an affair with her and she laughs but does not cut me dead telling me such comments are inappropriate. My girlfriend only met her once and immediately disliked her, I asked her why later and my girlfriend replied 'because she fancies you', I told her such a thing was ridiculous but I know women's instincts are usually spot on about these things.

So my question is this, am I being offensive by believing that such good living, wholesome girls would ever dream of becoming involved with lowlife *****mongers like us, am I misinterpreting natural charming friendliness in my sick and depraved mind? Or am I being hopelessly naive by not realising a pretty, flirty, Jakarta girl in a jilbab is still a pretty, flirty Jakarta girl?

Mangga

04-19-05, 06:32

dorman has raised a very interesting issue about the wearing of jilbab and what it actually means to the cewek who wear them. like dorman, i have tended to regard a cewek in jilbab as a sign that says "stay away", but i have come to think that the situation is actually more complex and subtle than most ignorant bule (i include myself here) think.

i think that girls wear jilbab for a range of reasons that don't necessarily mean strict adherence to a dogmatic interpretation of islam.

there is a stream of islamic culture in indonesia (islamic modernism) that seems to attract about 10-20 per cent of the population and has done so for decades without it growing any bigger. so if this is your family background there is strong pressure to conform to the signs and symbols whether you are personally very religious or not.

my current "pacar" is a bit like this. she comes from a very strict muslim background and likes to keep to "the rules". but she does it completely inconsistently. she would never eat pork and whenever i take her somewhere to eat she always checks that nothing is "babi". yet at the same time she likes to have an occasional beer. i wish i could get her to unwind and have a few more, but she will have those one or two which is against "the rules".

i don't know what the islamic modernist position on extra-marital sex is but i'm sure it's not encouraged, to say the least. but my pacar wouldn't be my pacar if she wasn't a voracious sex bunny. she loves it! i don't know how many sms's i have received along the lines of "oh i need it" or "i need you to fuck me now!" etc... enough to melt any kind gentleman's heart, and do many other things to certain parts of his anatomy.

last ramadan my pacar and i met at a hotel for a steamy fuck session, but she told me she wasn't allowed to get any of my bodily fluids into her mouth until after "buka puasa". so we sat on the bed, me naked with a rigid cock and her dressed in skimpy lingerie, watching a soap opera and waiting for the magic moment. i reported on this incident in this forum at the time. so, it was ok to fuck like crazy outside of fasting hours but not before!

then a while ago she amazed me by telling me she did wear a jilbab at one time, just last year in fact. but she stopped wearing it, not because of any change of religious conviction, but simply because it was too hot and uncomfortable. if i had seen her wearing it when i first met her i probably would have run a mile, not knowing that beneath that modest exterior was a wild little fucklet just waiting to pounce on a willing cock.

so don't be too surprised if those eyes peeping out from all that cloth are actually on the look-out for a jolly good rogering. i've never yet picked up a cewek yang pakai jilbab but i actually don't think it's out of the question. beneath it all, beneath clothing and beneath all the bullshit rules (no offence to believers of any religion) is basic human desire.

i'd love to hear of any experiences re jibab-wearers from other contributors to this august forum. all in the interests of cross-cultural understanding, of course.

Key Master

04-19-05, 07:59

I have stayed at both, and personally prefer Melawaii. I am a light sleeper and ended up with a room in front facing Blok M plaza at Losari and all the honking of the horns from sunrise to way after sunset drove me crazy. You will hear honking if you have a window to the streets at Melawaii but it was nothing compared to a front room at Losari for me.

Both have mosquitoe issues and is the main reason I don't stay at either anymore because they like something in my blood. Both hotels are in great locations for daily and nightly needs. The Melawaii plus is the 6th floor, but you don't have to cross a street to get there from Losari just a walk down the block to the corner and then hook a left to the Melawaii. I wouldn't worry about breakfast being included, because if you stay out late at My Bar or something, you probably won't be waking up in time to eat breakfast. I'd rather walk to Blok M plaza or Passaraya and have my meals there for the eye candy.

If you choose Melawaii, they have a I and a II. I prefer Melawaii II across the street. The rooms are slightly bigger I believe but kind of dark. It's a tad bit more expensive than Melawaii I.

I heard from a girl I took from Lintas before that Lintas was open again. I went by during the day recently and saw a sign "trial opening". It appears I believe that they are trying to reopen the billiards section. Both disco and billiards doors were locked when I walked by. I don't know if the disco is open again. I talked to a doorman who knew me from the days I stayed at Melawaii and I had mentioned that Melawaii was good when Lintas was open before, and he also tried to tell me it was open again. I doubt it is anywhere close to it's hey day, but I wouldn't mind the days of the old Lintas Melawaii days. I actually prefer it over My Bar.

El Culion

04-19-05, 09:08

Hi Menteng,

Thank you for your informative advice. Much obliged! It's remarkable how friendly this section of WSG is in comparison to others (e.g. Thailand).

I stayed at Jalan Jaksa a few years ago (1999). It wasn't a mongering holiday because I was accompanied by my then-girlfriend. I wasn't too impressed with the neighbourhood. Perhaps things have changed now but I'll play safe and choose for the Blok M neighbourhood.

I'll call the Losari to try and make a reservation for a room overlooking Blok M Plaza. Since the distance between the 2 hotels is so short I can always hop over to the 6th floor of Melawai for short carnal excursions.

E.C.

Menteng

04-19-05, 12:32

Mangga and Dorman,

I think we all agree, that underneath that jilbab is a human being of flesh and blood. They too have their needs and I think f...ing is one of it.

Like Mangga wrote, I also think/know that a lot of those girls/women wear the jilbab because of the family or neighbourhood, without even bothering the rules. The girl I refered to, even still attends a muhamadiyah school.

Of two other women, I know they wear jilbab too. But before we meet, they take them off. The only condition they make, is to meet far away from their home.

The three persons have one thing in common. They refuse to keep the jilbab on while mating, err, meeting.

Menteng

04-19-05, 12:36

Dorman,

Maybe it is only imagination, but I think Levitra is "stronger". Besides, it does not give me a headache or unusual heartbeats.

Billy Bishop

04-19-05, 14:04

Hi gang,

First time posting in this forum. I'm a westerner with a pretty decent grasp of bahasa indonesia but not much mongering experience. Last time I was in Jakarta(October/November) I made it over to Stadium. It was a little difficult to get there because my cabbie claimed no idea where stadium was we wasted quite a bit of time before he figured it out by asking some other drivers. He seemed genuinely confused so I pretty sure it wasn't an act to rip me off- especially considering I got him right from my hotel, the century atlet. Also, the whole way there he was telling me the place would be closed. It wasn't.

Personally, I was a little sketchy on the location and surroundings of stadium. I asked to cabbie to park and wait for me because I didn't like the idea of searching for a cad in that neighborhood. I went inside and had a decent time with a young cutie for about 250,000(plus a 50,000 tip I think). Sorry but I really can't remember many details execpt that she wasn't into greek but she let me cim. When I asked her to remove my jimmy hat for the cim she though I was asking to screw her bareback... and she reluctantly started to comply before I assured her i wasn't interested in that. She seemed relieved and gave me a very happy ending.

When I returned to cab we started to pull away when a group of young thugs stood in front of the taxi and demanded money for "parking" in the alley. I spoke to them in Indonesian which caught them off guard- but in the end I told my driver to take care of it and I would reimburse him at the hotel because I just wanted to get home. It wasn't much money... just kinda annoying. Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Anyways, I'll be back in Indo soon so please keep up the great work! Is it true that stadium has different floors? I was there on a Sunday during ramadan so it wasn't that busy.

Jaimito Cartero

04-19-05, 15:45

Gentlemen,

Next month I'll be spending a fortnight in Indonesia. I'm travelling on a tight budget.

From what I've read on the forum I think that the above hotels serve my purpose best as far as location and rates are concerned.

I haven't made reservations yet because I find it difficult to make a choice between one of them. Who has stayed in both hotels so he's in a position to compare them?

Any other (cheaper) hotel recommendations are also welcome.

Thanks in advance,

E.C.

You can stay in the Jl Jaksa area in moderate to nice hotels for 220-300k per night. There are many lower end places that are probably a lot less, but I didn't investigate them.

Cemara was pretty nice , a 3 star hotel (300k or so, no breakfast), and would my choice in the area.

Bulai69

04-19-05, 20:09

Jazneeto - it's normal for groups of young guys to "manage" the car parking arrangements, not just there but in lots of similar places. Although it's slightly irritating my advice is just to pay to avoid any agro - 1000 or so would be enough which is nothing.

Dorman

04-20-05, 11:32

I think Mangga and Menteng are on to something, that like so much else in life it is best not to generalise and this holds true with jilbab girls.

The woman I quite fancy (and if my girlfriend is to be believed fancies me) told me that she only started wearing the jilbab two years ago. She told me when she was younger her and her friends would frequently enjoy weekends in Bali. In our last conversation she mentioned how her friends said she only seemed happy or free to be herself when she was out of her house working in her business. Like I said her husband is an Arab so perhaps we can deduce that it's his influence that keeps her pretty head all wrapped up, (actually looking at it logically he's probably doing the right thing in a hard assed kind of way, otherwise she probably would be running off with some other bloke, there is method to the madness).

It really is inconceivable that me and this lady could ever get it on (from a safety point of view that might be wise, I kinda like my head to remain firmly attached to my neck) but it is worthwhile bearing in mind that not all is as it seems in this fabulous country.

Viceman

04-21-05, 04:29

Big Lan Ciao

04-21-05, 17:34

HI all,

Can you guys recommend so cheap and nice hotel in Jakarta?

Preferably near the centre of action:)

Thanks!

Kev

Bulai69

04-21-05, 18:49

Big Lan Ciao - It depends what you call cheap but IBIS hotels are a good compromise as they are part of a European chain so they are consistant. There are 3 or 4 in Jakarta, I suggest you look at their websites or look back in the forum. Also there is "action" in lots of places: different at night from day time. IBIS Arcadia is pretty central. IBIS Slipi is a long way from most places. There is no problem getting girls into IBIS hotels, just in case you were wondering - or indeed any other hotels in my experience.

Mighty Spearsman

04-21-05, 19:00

Hey Guys, Appreciate your advice. I have got a big Client coming to Town and he has asked me to help him look for Model or 2nd-tier Actress. Seriously, I am really clueless about this category.

If you have any contact, appreciate the information.

Thanks! Cheers! VM.
Dear Viceman:

Sorry to say this, but you may not get much of a response since you're a newbie with only 3 posts to your name.

My recommendation would be to contact JAD (Jakarta After Dark) and pay his regular fee - that's probably the only way that your "big client" is guaranteed any sort of success. JAD has an excellent reputation and track record; yes, you'll have to pay a fee (nothing is free in this world, my friend), but his rates are very cost-effective.

JAD has a post in the "Classified Ads" section of WSG where you can find his contact info, or else just go directly to his web site at www.jakartaafterdark.com - and no, I'm not an employee or business associate of his!

Menteng

04-21-05, 23:44

Menteng

04-21-05, 23:52

Big Dick, err Lanciao,

Like Bulai marked, what is cheap in your opinion. Because if you want, cheap cheap try the hotels in the jalan Jaksa. Hotel Margot for example, charges 140k (US $ 14.50) per night, including a simple breakfast. But check the bedsheets before you book a room!

Viceman

04-22-05, 03:47

Bulai69

04-22-05, 08:10

A further thought on accomodation which I've not seen mentioned in here is serviced appartments. There are expensive ones (eg Ascott) which are more expensive than hotels but there are some excellent cheaper options if you are staying for a long time. Just one example I know about and have an up to date price list is Takes Mansion in Jl Taman Kebon Sirih (not far from business centre) The standard is very good (maybe IBIS standard rooms) and it has laundry, cafe etc. They start at 4,000,000 per month for a one bedroom appt which of course has kitchen & bathroom. That's very cheap per night for the standard. They do shorter lets - even daily, but obviously it's less cost effective. One night is 200,000. I've got contact details if anyone is interested - there are many similar places with varying prices: this is a very good compromise. Naturally there is no problem getting girls in should anyone be interested in that aspect of the arrangement!

Alan405

04-23-05, 03:33

Hi all,

I am going to Surabaya on 29/4/05. Any latest info about the night life there? Will be staying in Grand Palace hotel. Any info will be much appreciated.

Thanks

Dorman

04-23-05, 11:00

Alan405, as far as I can see your best bet is either Desperados in the Shangri La which is a very similar setup to BATs its big sister in Jakarta. There is usually a good band with a fair to decent selection of chicken, usually pros and semi-pros. There's also JJ's (Java Jimmy's) in the Marriott Hotel. Most mongers in Surabaya go to the red light district called Dolly but I never found the place so cannot comment. I suggest you PM Vulcanizer as he's our resident expert on the City of Heroes.

Bulai, I lived in Take's for a few months last year. I rented the penthouse overlooking the pool, it wasn't the Hilton by any means but clean and very adequate for my needs being just two minutes walk from the Busway and in the centre of town. I would have been happy to stay but the bird kept nagging me to get something more upmarket that's why I'm currently forking out a small fortune for an overpriced apartment twenty storeys above Jalan Sudirman. I'm paying about the same in rent as I was paying for my mortgage on my place back in the UK. Aren't the persuasive powers of Indonesian women a marvel to behold?

Bulai69

04-23-05, 15:04

Dorman - thanks, that's interesting as it will be to others who have PM'd me. You're right about those persuasive powers!

When I flew out of Jakarta last week I met a really excellent looking girl selling (fake) Mont Blanc pens. Unfortunately I was with another girl at the time but did manage to get the pen-girl's name and hp number. I've exchanged several sms with her since and she has agreed to meet me at the airport next time I come in and go to my hotel with me "to the night club" - on the basis I give her taxi fare home (she lives near the airport) and also buy some pens from her. Given that 3 pens can be bought for 50k, I would be willing to buy a lot! Has anyone any knowledge/experience of this girl? Actually there are three of them, I've seen them a few times but the one I'm interested in would be pretty obvious if you know her!

Girlfinder

04-23-05, 19:46

I can usually get Kamagra in Bangkok for cheaper than this. Is that the going rate?.I dont know the price for Kamagra, but interesting you go for the generic product. It is like, instead of buying Propecia against hairloss, you buy the Proscar to 20% of price and split one tablet in 4. Seems like each tablet has a fixed price of approximately 1 USD, regardless of strength.

Instead of Viagra, try Cialis which i said to be better, faster and longer lasting. The 10mg and 20mg have the same price, and thus you buy the 20mg and split.

Myabe we could have this discussion in a common forum for WSG, someone who know if there is one here?

Cheers

Dorman

04-24-05, 04:29

Regarding Viceman's dilemma I agree that it's only fair to help out a newbie if he has an original request. I haven't got any specifics but it should be pointed out that there are many girls in the Jakarta night scene who fall into the category of models or second tier actresses. I remember a dispute some months back when PRO claimed he was regularly picking them up in the high class bars like Cina Bar and Musro (I've been to both and really couldn't confirm his theory but who am I to argue).

If one watches the plethora of soap operas (sinetrons) on the local telly you'll see just how many pretty girls there are with minor parts, these girls are usually hanging round CJs and such like, looking for sugar daddies (usually Indonesian men) to keep them in comfort. Time without number my girlfriend has pointed out some girl in a hotel lobby or restaurant and told me she's in some soap opera, 'which one?', 'you know the one with the teenagers and the bad guys' 'oh right, that narrows it down then'.

As a point of fact I was at a wedding at the weekend when my girlfriend introduced me to her two cousins, both quite pretty but shocking thighs as I remember, very disappointing. Anyway these girls are the talk of the family as one of them is a sinetron actress, well as far as I could make out she has a walk on part in some show which goes out on a Tuesday afternoon or something but that counts. In the course of conversation I asked her where she hung out at nights, guess where, yup BATS, CJs, Tiga Puluh, Retro, 'nuff said. So these girls are available but hardly at the end of a phone, expect some seriously high maintenence though.

As for models, one of the great pleasures that I miss from living in Take's Mansion and which I forgot to mention was the Wednesday and Friday photoshoot. Like I said my apartment overlooked the pool which was quite a secluded and discreet little spot. Twice a week a photographer would come along with a model or two to take pictures of them in various bikinis by the pool. As a way of passing a langorous tropical afternoon it's hard to beat watching a couple of Indonesian girls being made to pout and pose while getting wet I can tell you. These photo shoots were for the magazine 'Lipstick' which though racy by Indonesian standards is pretty tame for westerners, there are several magazines like 'Lipstick' and they can be bought from street vendors, all of them carrying photosets of 'models' like the ones I saw. Presumably these girls aren't paid much and having posed semi-naked in magazines wouldn't be averse to other extra-curricular activities. On a similar point if your Bahasa Indonesia is up to it you could do worse than buying these mags as they do have some interesting insights into Indonesia's seamier side and have useful phone numbers.

Well that's my take on actresses, models, whatever.

Menteng

04-24-05, 09:58

Girlfinder,

Look under Special Interests in the opening page of WSG.

Zos68

04-24-05, 12:39

Could someone please help me out with this.
I hit Jakarta for the first time in 2 days from now. I want to get a 3 month visa for my GF to go to Australia. The question is.. do the guys at the Australian embassy take extra money to fast track the process?
See my reports in the Bali section.

Please pm me with any advice.

Thanks
zos

Possessed Seoul

04-24-05, 13:22

Don't even think about it, Australian officials have a reputation as some of the most uncorruptable in the world. You'd have more luck blowing out a lightbulb.

A question for the old hands, whilst in BKK, I have on several occaisions hooked up with sexy West African girls there on business. I know many of you will ask 'why?' when there is such a plethora of fine Indo pussy available, but has anyone ever had a similar experience in JKT? Any tips or ideas on where one may find an African girl?

XXL

04-24-05, 20:19

Don't even think about it, Australian officials have a reputation as some of the most uncorruptable in the world. You'd have more luck blowing out a lightbulb.

I'm sure corruption exists somehow. Otherwise, how could the presence of so many prostitutes from around the world in the First World's big cities be explained? It's usually the locals working for an embassy who act as contact persons. This allows the diplomats to plead non-involvement whenever there's a scandal. I know from goings-on in Africa that visas can be bought. But buying one is only profitable if the girl plans not to return to her home country. Otherwise the price is too expensive - on a price per week basis - compared to the duration of the stay.

By the way, do Indonesian authorities allow a muslim Indonesian girl out of the country on a tourist visa with a bule? I remember a girl from Balikpapan whom I once gave some money to get herself a passport telling me "but what reason am I going to give the passport people for them to issue me a passport?". Not a very good start, is it?

A question for the old hands, whilst in BKK, I have on several occaisions hooked up with sexy West African girls there on business. I know many of you will ask 'why?' when there is such a plethora of fine Indo pussy available, but has anyone ever had a similar experience in JKT? Any tips or ideas on where one may find an African girl?

I haven't seen African girls in JKT but there are African blokes hanging around. Their present hang-out, if I'm not mistaken, is Tiga Puluh. They probably have some of their black "sisters" stashed away somewhere. They're likely to be Nigerian though, people I'd rather stay away from in Asia, not because I am some sort of racist but because there are so many Nigerians on death row in Indonesia (and Malaysia and Thailand and ...) on drug smuggling convictions. I'm not a saint or a wimp, having swallowed the odd pill in JKT discos myself, but packs of white powder in luggage is way above what I'm willing to be associated with as far as risk-taking is concerned.

Zos68

04-24-05, 22:45

Hi XXL,

My last trip to Indo was about a month ago and I actually drove from Denpasar up to Jimbur in south Java with her and got her a passport. Normal rate was 250000rp but people had been waiting there for a week so I gave this Immigration girl 1.1mil and got my GF a passport in less than a day. See the story I wrote in the Bali section.

What I wanted to know is if the local workers at the embassy could be "asked" to fast track the process just like the Indo ones can? Obviously the Australians working there would probably not.

Frank Africa

04-25-05, 21:17

A question for the old hands, whilst in BKK, I have on several occasions hooked up with sexy West African girls there on business. I know many of you will ask 'why?' when there is such a plethora of fine Indo pussy available, but has anyone ever had a similar experience in JKT? Any tips or ideas on where one may find an African girl?
Please see XXL's comments about this. I agree with him - you'd be better off to stay away from the Nigerians in Indonesia. They have a terrible reputation and are under close scrutiny from the authorities. Obviously not all Nigerians are drug dealers, but it would be a shame if you innocently got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

No need to put yourself at risk unnecessarily!

Mighty Spearsman

04-25-05, 21:23

Viceman,

I can help you. See my earlier postings, but to save you some time, just PM me. I doubt it if JAD could help you, because he once told me he only did tours. He wasn't interested in the information I had about models and soap-starlets.

MS, I'm sorry, but I don't entirely agree with you. In my opinion, we're here also to help the newbies. We started that way, didn't we?
Dear Menteng - I never said that I wouldn't help him (actually I did help him a bit), just that I doubted if Viceman would get as much help as he'd like.

Yes, we all started out as newbies, and I am happy to help anyone up to a certain extent. But part of me feels that any newbie should write one or two informative posts first, before asking for lots of information, especially info which can usually be gleaned from R'ing TFF.

And I have read a couple of very suspicious-looking posts from first-time posters in other WSG forums that look as if they've been placed by LE.

Possessed Seoul

04-26-05, 01:28

Please see XXL's comments about this. I agree with him - you'd be better off to stay away from the Nigerians in Indonesia. They have a terrible reputation and are under close scrutiny from the authorities. Obviously not all Nigerians are drug dealers, but it would be a shame if you innocently got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

No need to put yourself at risk unnecessarily!I understand, they have a bad rep here in my part of Asia as well. I was dating an African girl here for a while (Tanzanian) and her boss (Rwandan) warned us not to go to a Nigerian-frequented disco lest we end up with the same problems. Most of my African friends here are Francophone and they all say the same thing. Good thing in BKK is you can meet the girls alone, alot of them come as traders to buy cloth and the like. I was thinking maybe of checking out one of the markets like Tanah Abeng to find similar types. Don't worry though, I wouldn't be caught dead in the company of a large group of Nigerian males that I didn't know.

Viceman

04-26-05, 02:16

Dear Menteng - I never said that I wouldn't help him (actually I did help him a bit), just that I doubted if Viceman would get as much help as he'd like.

Yes, we all started out as newbies, and I am happy to help anyone up to a certain extent. But part of me feels that any newbie should write one or two informative posts first, before asking for lots of information, especially info which can usually be gleaned from R'ing TFF.

And I have read a couple of very suspicious-looking posts from first-time posters in other WSG forums that look as if they've been placed by LE.Wooooh! Guys, cool it. Hey man, sorry! I don't mean to have created so much trouble. And I really appreciate the information provided here, this is where newbie like me starts to pick up.

Thanks!

VM

Menteng

04-26-05, 04:56

Mighty S,

You might be right about V. Thinking of it, I have given him information before, about the girls. Who is LE?

Viceman,

How about that?

Kl Tonight

04-26-05, 05:02

Hi Big Lan Ciao,

There are a few hotels I can recommend u based on location

Wahid Hasyim Area - There 4 hotels there, Ibis Arcadia and Ibis Tamarin (RP~350k), Hotel Cemara (~295k) and Cipta Hotel (~250k). This area is pretty much in the center of Jkt. Lots of food, shopping nearby. You can go to Block M or Kota for around RP20k in a taxi.

Kota area - Sparks Hotel is a new hotel, directly opposite Lokasari, very near action such as Taman Sari, Berlian, Kartika etc. (~350k, if checked in by Indonesian)

Pencenongan - Redtop (around 400k +), nice and good hotel.

LC

Jaimito Cartero

04-26-05, 08:48

There 4 hotels there, Ibis Arcadia and Ibis Tamarin (RP~350k), Hotel Cemara (~295k) and Cipta Hotel (~250k).

If the Cipta is the one next to Tony Roma I´d avoid it. I stayed one night and it was pretty bad. I had the super deluxe room, and it´s was crappy. Cemara is way better, and for only $5 more a good deal.

Both the Ibis´ locations were sold out when I was there. You may want to reserve earlier.

Viceman

04-26-05, 09:42

Mighty S,

You might be right about V. Thinking of it, I have given him information before, about the girls. Who is LE?

Viceman,

How about that?Hi! MT,

You have lost me here. Don't really get what you mean.

I have made some enquiries earlier, before I get posted to Jakarta. I thought I might get more info before arriving. Nevertheless, I have never got settled in as fast as I thought I could and work has kept coming in... Now, finally got some breathing space, also this client of mine coming, making this request...

I remember you did mention Club 27 before and that's about as much I know.

Sorry if I caused any confusion. Thanks!

VM

Teegee

04-26-05, 14:21

Chemara Hotel

If you like a very quiet room ask for the once which face the internal yard/fireexit. Not much daylight, but no traffic noise which can be very anoying. The special discount rate for this room is 290K incl breakfast for one.

Chemaras great advantage is the second entrance which comes handy at times and allows you to bypass the main lobby.

Reservation is recomended as often full particular on the weekends!!

The great advantage is also the short distance to the train station which brings you to Menga Besar and the express bus to BlockM, without loosing endless time in traffic jams using the taxi.

Breakfast is buffet style with good choices.

Good restaurants are just outside if you walk towards Sarina department store.
If you want to impress any Indo girl take her there, and she will joyfully be your dessert in the Chemara.

Have fun

Kl Tonight

04-27-05, 05:14

If the Cipta is the one next to Tony Roma I´d avoid it. I stayed one night and it was pretty bad. I had the super deluxe room, and it´s was crappy. Cemara is way better, and for only $5 more a good deal.

Hi JC,

I gotta admit that Cemara is way better. I stayed in Cipta before the Tony Roma or rather the restaurant next door was burnt in fire. The room is basic, but my stay is quite ok. I brought 2 cutie from My Bar to my room smoothly (the lift is right at lobby!) The parking warden also brought me some WL to my room for viewing on my second night.

Overall staying experience is ok, but for facilities, obviously is nowhere near Ibis or Cemara. Ibis is always nearly full, must book first, even Kaha Travel also cant help.

LC

Jkt After Dark 2

04-28-05, 05:03

Mighty Spearsman,

Thank you for promoting Jakarta After Dark <www.jakartaafterdark.com>. I really appreciate it. But Menteng is right. I am not interested in escort service business. Not my bread and butter.

Viceman,

I am agreeable with Dorman's views. Actresses and models even in 2nd tier are very expensive. I advice you to go for SPG/expo hostess instead. I think the industry follow stricker physical requirements than cabin crue: pleasing personalities, max 22 yr, min 165cm, educated, and english speaking. First class SPG bill 500K for 6 hour shift during exhibitions and GP 500 race.

Word of advice. Beware that many agencies send fake SPG.

Mighty Spearsman and Menteng,

So ... at last you noticed there are LE around. :D:D:D. They have been monitoring this forum for quite sometimes. Lately I received my silly emails and PMs with questions normally genuine mongers wouldn't ask. After Bali's bombing I think there is this bule who posted message in this thread claiming he got fat discount from Hartono 500K for 3 hrs block. Hartono's relationship manager clarified that they only give that special price to local LE. And this local LE always passed this offer to their visiting guests. I only recall US Fed and S'porean interpol officers.

Take care!

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Dorman

04-29-05, 03:29

Due to a major disagreement with the missus last night (I seem to recall it was over whether Dewa or PeterPan better represent modern Indonesian youth culture, Christ I'm living here too long!) and in order to avoid the flying kitchenware I had to make a hasty if temporary departure from my apartment last night. As it was an unexpected event and getting on for 9.30 I did not have a room available so I wasn't likely to see any action all was not lost however as it gave me a chance to check out the strippers at Club 27.

I've been once before but hadn't seen the dancers, I liked the layout though it was quiet then, last night a good crowd of mainly local guys were there. The staff are extremely friendly if a little bit clueless, twice they lifted my drinks even though they weren't yet finished, as the dancers weren't due on until 11 I took the opportunity to head down to Palatehan. My Bar was empty but D's had a fair crowd, a couple of new faces but generally the same girls were there. I did notice 'Novi', regulars might remember her as the fresh faced kampung girl I met a few months back, I know I got a couple of PM's about her. Well there she was red boob tube, lycra mini skirt dancing round the pole up on stage, she had a nice new handphone and was knocking back the Long Island Ice Teas like they were going out of fashion, boy oh boy the corrupting influence of big bad Jakarta town continues unabated.

I also noticed quite a pretty girl in a tight fitting skimpy top, the reason the top was so tight fitting was that she was about seven months pregnant! With her bump and nicely filled out tits on display she looked quite horny, now is that just a natural reaction on my part upon seeing a healthy, blooming young woman full of life or am I just a disgusting pervert? No, don't answer that.

Anyway as it was nearing 11pm I decided to return to Cub 27 to see the show. I got a taxi and asked him to take me there, naming the hotel next door as I doubted he'd know where Club 27 was. After about 10 minutes I glanced out the window to see that we were driving north along Jalan Sudirman, we were going to Kota, it seems I said 'Lokasari' instead of 'Hotel Losari', a definite Freudian slip. As it turns out I needn't have worried this is Indonesia after all the land of 'jam karet', it was 11.30 before the girls came rushing into the place obviously having been delayed elsewhere, Avenue perhaps?

The dancers came out later in short skirts and gold bikini tops, they danced for a while then went among the crowd doing lap dances for guys without actually taking anything off, all very innocent, the guys then bunged them a few thousand rupes. A nice little waitress helpfully directed one of them my way, all good clean fun. They then returned to the stage, removed each other's tops and jiggled their fine bosoms for ten seconds before exiting stage left. So not exactly the Crazy Horse Club in Paris but not bad by Indonesian standards, worth popping in for if your passing at 11 on a Thursday or Saturday night.

I returned to Palatehan where as I recall I pledged my undying love to one of the new barmaids in D's Place, she was very flattered till one of her longer serving colleagues pointed out she was the ninth one to whom I'd done so in the past six months, dammit, time to report back to the War Office. It's 9.30am now and it looks like it's going to be a long day of all picture no sound, all the best guys.

Jaimito Cartero

04-29-05, 07:00

Brandon88

04-29-05, 21:06

Gents, I plan to be back in town in 2 weeks. Anyone interested in meeting for a drink please PM me. I'd say MyBar is always an interesting place, though I frequent BATS and the like on average.

Teegee

05-01-05, 10:00

Hi Jaimito

I am sure you are that kind of guy who likes his breakfast served in bed!!
All the best

Bulai69

05-01-05, 20:10

When I arrived after my usual 30 hour trip a couple of weeks ago I was very irritated to find 30 Bar closed - I always stay at Meridien and on my first night the easy option is to go down there and get something for the night.

It should have re-opened by now - anyone been yet?

So I tried an alternative - Aphrodite, which I'd never been to and which I've never seen anyone write about in here. It was voted No 1 in Jakarta Kini for what it's worth. Anyway I was highly unimpressed, very few decent girls in there who were out numbered by bules and other men from various places. After a few minutes I did spot one girl who was way ahead of the others so I observed for a while thinking she must be with someone. After watching and listing to a few incredibly crass approaches I though "sod it" and just asked back to my hotel and she said "OK".

She was a stunning performer and great looking - I think she hangs out in Aphrodite quite often judging by the number of people she knew in there. Highly recommended and good value!

See photo section.

Menteng

05-02-05, 10:27

Bulai,

Is it the Aphrodite at Taman Rasuna, near MMC?

Buc Punter

05-02-05, 13:55

Menteng,

Aphrodite is close to Taman Rasuna. I find it to be one of the worst spots in Jakarta to meet girls. The bules usually outnumber the girls 10 to 1. But people normally don't go there to meet girls anyway. It's mainly a spot for businessmen to hang out after office hours for a few beers.

Buc Punter

05-02-05, 14:18

One more comment. Although I feel Aphrodite is not a good place to meet girls, I've said before that you can meet girls absolutely anywhere in Jakarta. That girl Bulai posted from Aphrodite is not bad at all. But I would not expect to find girls at Aphrodite on a consistant basis. Most of the time, I walk in, see that there is nothing there, and walk out.

A better place to go would be Park Lane hotel in the bar Styx. It's close to Aphrodite and almost always has at least one decent girl there.

Bulai69

05-02-05, 14:44

Menteng, sounds like the same one, it's in Jl Rasuna Said, not far from Mulia in Kuningan. As I mentioned, I wouldn't particularly recommend it for picking up girls, I was just lucky with the one I posted I think. In fact that same girl (as is often the case) can also be found in Jalan Jaksa later in the night (unless of course, someone has already picked her up)

Frankfurter

05-03-05, 03:46

Need advise from all you insiders:

I usually stay for two month in Thailand and Cambodia during late June/July early August. This time I like to explore EITHER KL (because of the modern architecture, really, no kidding!) or Jakarta.

In your opinion, which of the two has:

- the best attitude, most open, "slutty" performers, BBBJ, assfuck
- lowest cost for mongering
- best food
- cheapest hotels

Appreciate.

Frankfurter

Bulai69

05-03-05, 07:47

Perhaps predictably, Frankfurter, I have to say JKT wins hands down as far as girls are concerned. You can get everything you mention (and more) more easily and cheaper in Jakarta. Like for like hotels in KL are somewhat cheaper, but its marginal. As for food, well I don't have much time for that, but think Jakarta is similar price/quality. Another point you don't mention, is that there is never a problem getting a girl into your hotel in Jakarta, whereas I've had that problem in KL. In fact I think, technically, you can be arrested in KL if you're not married to her?!

Jaimito Cartero

05-03-05, 08:15

KL is cleaner and nicer, of course, but hotel costs seemed the same or maybe a bit cheaper in JKT. Girls are a mile apart. Go to Jakarta!

Menteng

05-03-05, 09:14

By far Jakarta, concerning the girls. Need I say more if, with the Chinese girls, the Indonesian girls are the most wanted in KL? Besides, the police in KL very often raid the mongering places.

I can not compare the prices of the 5-star hotels, but I know, that in Jakarta you can get better hotels for US $ 30.

Member #3173

05-03-05, 16:23

Zero,

I visited Emporivm last night. I took 2 pictures yesterday. 8 PRC in transparant white panties and tank tops joined the crowd in the pool at 6.30 p.m. - 7.30 p.m. in 4 to 4 team. I took the first 3 pictures few weeks ago.

I still have a lot picture collection. Maybe I should post them. But I still have to locate them.

JAKARTA AFTER DARKAny topless pics?

Frankfurter

05-03-05, 16:31

Guys:

I appreciate your advise! Jakarta it is. I need to study the posts some more before I leave BKK for Malaysia. I keep you posted. (I hope to have figured out the photo posting miracle by then.)

Frankfurter

Member #4351

05-03-05, 17:54

I`m planning a Nov. trip to Jakarta and was going to arrive the 4th (Ramadan is supposed to end the 3rd I think). I have heard that even though the holiday is over, action is severly limited for aprox. a week after because the girls are at home with their families. Will I OK if I arrive as planned, or should I spend a week in LOS first and arrive later? Thanks for your help.

Bulai69

05-03-05, 20:12

Don't waste a week! Even during Ramadhan you can still find action, though it is somewhat limited, but afterwards: no problem, it's certainly not "severely limited". There are so many opportunities that a marginal reduction along the lines you say, even if you noticed it, would still leave you with more choice than you can cope with.

Bulai69

05-03-05, 20:21

You have confirmed my impression from my first (and probably, last) visit about Aphrodite. As you say Stix is better but I'm not too keen on that either. I've only been a few times with a client whose office is in the block adjacent to Park Lane. Last time I went there were a couple of realy excellent girls (but only 2) but I was with a girl and couldn't do anything about it.

I find it nowhere near as good as 30 bar - anybody been there since it re-openned?

Kl Tonight

05-04-05, 12:30

Hi Frankfurter,

I am staying in KL and regularly go Jkt. Let me give my 2 cents opinion

- the best attitude, most open, "slutty" performers, BBBJ, assfuck
I would rate this on 2 perspectives

1. Bar/Disco/LT Places - Jakarta WINS hand down.. the woman in these places plenty, slutty and basically if you want her, there is little reason for you to fail. Not to mention the prices and experience is much better. You also got more choices. The choices in KL is few, and with local Malaysian girl, the chance is slim.
2. Health Center / Spa - KL wins !! If you are the type which like to relax, dip in Jacuzzi, spent hours in steam, sauna, TV lounge etc. KL has plenty of good choices, reasonable (around USD50-60 for food, spa, FS+massage). KL wins wih better choice, better facilities and discretion. Generally very safe from Police/authority. Jkt also has plenty, but I found them generally not quite the standard in KL.

Depend on which type of monger you are. However, all in all, it is more exciting to go for Jakarta.

Jkt 1-0 KL

- lowest cost for mongering
Jakarta definitely, especially for LT. Nuff said. Jkt 2-0 KL

- best food
Hhmm.. I would favour KL. The variety (Malaysia got 3 majority race - Malay, Chinese, Indian) and general cleanliness in food joint in KL wins. Of course u can also get Japanese, Korean, Euro etc food in KL. There are good food in JKt, but not easy.

Jkt 2-1 KL

- cheapest hotels
5 star hotel is actually cheaper in KL. In fact, with some luck and promo, top KL hotel can be way cheaper, but hotel friendliness vary. However, if u are looking at USD35-50, both place offer good value for money place. Generally Jkt hotel is girl-friendly (avoid islamic-themed hotel). I would say it is a tie. No clear winner, it all depend on your budget and location.

Jkt 2-1 KL

Conclusion : If you are the outgoing, adventurous type, please go Jkt. If u wanna lazy mongering with good food, choose KL. Personally I would go Jkt.

Lastly, if you want to see architecture, well KL definitely wins.

LC

Travel to Monger

05-04-05, 19:56

I was recently in Jakarta on a short business trip and found myself with some free time in the afternoon so I decided to give a couple of the massage parlors in the Kota area an afternoon visit. After reading the very concise directions on how to locate the Berlian and Kartika Massage parlors posted by Mangga in this forum, I was fairly certain that I could locate these places with little difficulty; something that isn’t always the case in Jakarta’s habitually bewildering jalans.

Berlian and Kartika are both located a very short walk (approximately 100 meters) from the corner of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk, a busy intersection well known by the local taksi drivers and a good place to grab a taksi after your massage visit. That said, on my second visit to the area I grabbed a Bluebird taksi in Blok M and although the driver assured me that he new the location before I got in the taksi, we ended up driving around Kota for quite awhile before I convinced him to get out and ask a local driver how to find the intersection.

Once exiting the taksi at the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk, Kartika and Berlian are very easy to find IF you have the proper detailed directions, luckily I had copied Mangga’s directions precisely as posted. Thank you Mangga!

For the convenience of the reader I will repost Mangga’s directions, “If you stand on that corner (which is a "T" junction) with your back to Jl Mangga Besar (you'll see a big filthy canal in front of you), you turn left into Hayam Wuruk. Walk about 100 or so metres down Hayam Wuruk past a bus stop until you come to the first small laneway with a bakery on the corner. Turn left into that lane and follow it down a short distance until you see the Berlian on your right.” Kartika is a couple of doors down the same alley on the right; you literally can’t miss either location as they both have large, prominent signs and given the total lack of any other reason for a Bule to be walking down the alley other than a visit to one of the massage parlors, the Berlian doorman will strongly encourage you to enter his establishment.

Berlian’s décor is very similar to the well known Melawai 5+1 massage parlor, very dark with a small bar and many girls sitting on vinyl benches along the walls. One feature that I found useful for a first time visitor was that Berlian has fairly accurate pictures of all their girls on the counter where you pay for the services, when a girl is currently working she has small marker on her picture that shows if she is available or currently servicing a punter. I found it convenient to use as preliminary screening before chatting with the girls to make the final selection. It didn’t occur to me to actually count the number of girls whose pictures were on display but I would guestimate that there were probably 75 pictures with half of the girls working on a weekday afternoon. Of those who were working, probably 15 of them were very fresh and attractive and as Mangga pointed out, if you prefer the older, more experienced types, the selection is rather extensive.

The atmosphere is very relaxed with no pressure to rush the selection and head upstairs, I ended up consuming a few Bintangs and enjoying the always fascinating, “1. Where you from? 2. How long you stay Jakarta? 3. Where you stay Jakarta?” conversation with the more than eager Cewek girls.

The back-room facilities are standard issue Asian fuck shop rooms, clean but not exactly what you would call luxurious. That said, given the choice between opulence and a fresh beautiful girl, I will always choose the latter, especially when the price is 200K Rp for an hour of outstanding service.

Berlian
Jl. Hayam Wuruk 114 Blok A No. 27
(near Sampling Suisse Bakery)
Jakarta – Barat
639-3285

I also tried Kartika, will post a review when I get some additional time.

Xapmat

05-05-05, 05:51

I dont post up items too often, more so because of time constraints, but during my most recent visit to the big durian i frequented Dragon Fly, Graha BIP building and found it an excellent mongering venue. Model material everywhere, great wine and music, definitely up the in the $$$$ range, but well worth a visit. Wednesdays nights being the pick from 9 pm. A mix of high society, with a spalttering of working girls (i think) I picked up three times in four days, never asked or discussed $, two of which whizzed out with me in Benz's, the sex was free but the peripherals pricey, additional drinks, other clubs, dinners etc. Smart Sassy Jakarta Stunners with a taste for Fun, yummy, little rich girls off their faces, my favourite, keep investigating,

Thanks fella's.

Xap

Key Master

05-05-05, 06:25

Anybody hear of a Lintas Melawai reopening on the 4th, or actually go to it?

Mangga

05-05-05, 07:49

Went to the Stadium again last night for the first time in a while. I posted a very negative review of the place a few months ago and, sadly, my opinion has not changed a lot.

It's nice to sit and have a beer (half-warm and very badly poured - yech!) and watch the scantily-clad slutties coming and going, trying to entice the mostly Chinese clientele to fuck them - well, to give them money anyway. After 10-15 mins of this my pants were feeling rather tight so I invited over a friendly little thing to my table. She was of course eager to "masuk ke dalam" ("go inside"), but I wanted to see what sort of inducements she might offer. So I ordered another bad beer and groped her for a while. She responded nicely by gently rubbing a certain spot on my pants, which was really rather persuasive.

So I thought, what the hell, and she lead me off... The place was so full we had to go to the 6th floor. Someone in this forum recently suggested that something mysterious happens up there. Well actually, it's just more rooms for fucking the fucklets.

I took a VIP room (260,000), which was quite well appointed, with TV. The TV was just a distraction, however, because there was no porno, just ordinary cable.

But the point of the story is that the main event was very mediocre. She was a quite attractive little thing with very firm average sized tits (on the larger size for an Indonesian). I insisted on my favourite thing - ie BBBJ, which she delivered in OK form for a while. But after just a few minutes, which is just warm-up time for me, she started on the dreaded "condom, condom", which my long experience has shown me is code for "I want to lie back and do nothing while you cum as quickly as possible".

I insisted that the BBBJ continue, but I knew that getting much more out of her would be more trouble than it was worth. So after a minute or so of so-so BBBJ I donned the rubber. She, of course, just wanted to lie back and watch TV, and I had to strongly insist that she mount me. The sight of a naked female lowering herself onto your cock is one of the great pleasures of life... I fucked her in a few positions, but she kept telling me "waktu nanti habis" ("time's up soon") which was hardly a turn-on. Indeed, the one hour did seem to go remarkably quickly and I wondered whose clock was timing this when the buzzer sounded.

All-in-all, not a terrible fuck, but very mediocre indeed. Compared to thorough and enthusiastic going-over that I'm used to at the Berlian, it was just poor value for money. If I was an 18 year old having my first fuck, I'd probably think it was great, but having experienced the real thing from both professionals and girlfriends, it was underwhelming.

So I'd say go to the Stadium for some eye-candy, but go elsewhere to really get fucked. Especially if you're after a long cock-sucking session....

BTW: thanks to Travel to Monger for your kind words regarding my directions to the Berlian. I try to give detailed directions for locales because I've had the frustrating experience of trying to find places described in vague terms like "near XX Hotel" or "behind YY Plaza". In fact, years ago, my first efforts to find the happy holes in Kota were based on a report in a very early version of this forum that just said "up at Jl Mangga Besar". I discovered it's a bloody huge long street and I literally wandered for hours before I finally found heaven.

So please, mongers, share the details in detail....

oh...If you really want to go to Stadium, it's on a side street/lane off Hayam Wuruk, three lanes down towards the city centre from the Berlian lane (see recent reports on the Berlian). It's well-known by taxi drivers because it's a big entertainment centre. But, as Travel to Monger found, some Jakarta drivers don't even know the most prominent places. Beginners should definitely try to get a Silver Bird taxi until you know your own way around.

Adlian B

05-05-05, 14:48

Jaimito Cartero

05-05-05, 22:07

I`m planning a Nov. trip to Jakarta and was going to arrive the 4th (Ramadan is supposed to end the 3rd I think).

I barely missed meeting up with David in Bangkok last month, and then did meet him in his home country of Peru. He lives in the South American equivalent of Jakarta (Chica wise, traffic is much better!). He was a great host, and gave me lots of tips and got me in contact with a couple of great chicas. I really recommended Jakarta to him, and I think he´ll really like it.

Menteng

05-05-05, 23:33

I'll be in Jakarta at the time you'll be there, so just drop me a mensaje when you get there, mano. Let's talk about the chicas over a cerveza.

PC Bum

05-06-05, 05:07

Fellow Mongers,
I will be in Jakarta in early June and was wondering if anyone would be around to help me out? I won't have much time and have thoroughly studied Bulai's mall tactics, but if anyone is around and would be willling to help me out, I would be much obliged. Heck a free warm beer might even make it your way! I am staying at the Mercure Slipi. Please feel free to PM me if you are interested in meeting up while I am in Jakarta. I would be honored to party with you guys that live in pussy paradise!

Mangga

05-06-05, 12:28

Lintas Melawai has reopened. I dropped in there last night at about 9.30, hoping that a very early bird might catch something tasty. Alas the place was 100% empty, apart from the staff, some of whom looked very tasty indeed in their new outfits. They recommended that I come back in an hour.

What else was a bloke to do to fill in time, but walk a few metres down the road to the Hotel Melawai...

Just after 11, I checked into Lintas again to see if it had picked up. But it was still as dead as a doornail. Decided to do a bit of ogling of the staff and the few freelancers who were hanging around and hope that it might start to fill as midnight approached. After 2 warm, badly poured beers (where can you get a decent beer together with some available women in Jakarta...??) and some pleasant flirtation I was still the only customer, so I decided it was time to call it a night.

So, the Lintas is up and running again and the renovations have made it much more attractive, but it sure hasn't started to buzz yet. There were some paying customers in the billiards room, but even that was quiet. Of course it was relatively early and the place has only been open for a couple of days. Maybe it filled up 10 minutes after I left....

Mangga

05-06-05, 12:44

Further to my previous post, where I mentioned I dropped into the famous 6th floor of the Melawai last night...

The Melawai once again proved to be as reliable as always. The selection on display was by no means stunning, but there was plenty to keep a man interested. A little on the senior side of the profession, but some figures that filled their ultra tight dresses very nicely.

The main thing is that the two cuties I selected performed their duties with dedication and enthusiasm. And they freely gave the standard of BBBJ that one has come to expect in Jakarta.

The Maribaya is a great contrast to the poor quality of service that you get at the Stadium, as I mentioned in a earlier post. Sure, the girlies are usually younger and more attractive at the Stadium, but for my money it's performance that counts. The Stadium is the kind of place where hard-faced mamasans push the girls around like livestock, but at places like the Maribaya and the Berlian the girls seem much more in control of what they're doing and it shows in their attitude and performance.

And the beer is a little bit better...

Buc Punter

05-06-05, 13:22

Mangga,

You are spot on with your posts. The 6th floor may have girls that are a little older but the service is far superior to what you will get in the mangga besar area. I don't like the mamasans pushing the girls around like cattle either. It's a big turn off for me.

Mighty Spearsman

05-06-05, 15:40

Dear "Travel to Monger":

Thanks for your long post "Berlian Massage Parlor Review."

But with all due respect, your post did not contain any actual information of your session. Which girl did you pick? Was she one of the young fucklets, or one of the older more experienced ladies? Short or longer hair? Was she petite or relatively taller? Skinny or medium-build? What were her tits like? Was her oral performance great or just ok? Did she mount you cowgirl, or did she want to lie back in the mish position? Any doggie action? One pop or two?

Please post some details. Inquiring minds want to know!

P.S. and please don't let JAD's recent post about LE watching this board intimidate you. While it might be risky to post lots of details about any of the freelance or independent girls that we mongers might meet in one of the malls, I'm sure that there is no problem in posting details about the MPs - LE already knows what is going on in the upstairs rooms at both Berlian and Kartika.

Mighty Spearsman

05-06-05, 15:46

Bulai69

05-06-05, 19:48

I recommend you meet up with Menteng if you re interested in mall hunting, especially if you're not fluent in bahasa indonesia (he is). If you are not sure whether to "pounce" or not, he will confirm (or otherwise) that you have read the signs correctly. I suggest Atrium from midday onwards; if you've looked back at my postings you can see what is readily available in there - but you do need to speak the language for the initial contact. By the way Menteng, I thought it would be September before your return - how long long will you be staying?

Dorman

05-07-05, 04:07

Hi Spearsman

Actually I would have but I hadn't a room lined up. I've looked out for her since but haven't seen her again, so maybe she was just out for one night. I was in Palatehan last night, Friday, and I found it unusually quiet, anyone have an idea why?

Menteng

05-07-05, 10:27

Bulai,

I will not be in Jkt before september. David33 would be there in november, so that's why it will be possible to meet.

Aus Guy

05-08-05, 02:29

Dorman,

Paletahan was quiet most probably due to Wednesday night. It was the busiest I've ever seen it, could not believe the crowds. Wandered out of Mybar after 4am and it was still going strong, shoulder to shoulder. Would take a few days to get over that one!

On another note, anyone know any good massage places in Citra, west jkt?

Occasionally have to go there and would be nice to be able to drop in some place on the way back.

Gonzo Two

05-08-05, 10:53

Many years ago, about a decade ago, Jalan Blora was a seriously happening place, with quite a few bars that catered as much for the local market as the expatriate market, but managed the mix quite well. In the old days, most of these bars specialized in Dangdut. There was one place in particular, Lone Star, which stayed open til about three or four and was a good place to end up at the end of the night with a crowd of friends. The girls there were not as smooth and groomed as at some other places, definitely the middle end of the market, not much English spoken, and you had to watch out for trannies, but it was good fun, a lot of E and spliff in the dark corners.

From a taxi window, it all looks a bit dark and gloomy these days.

Has anyone been over to that side of town recently? Is anything still happening there?

(For non-Jakarta residents, Jalan Blora is off Sudirman - if you are coming from Blok M, you can see a few Karaoke bars and faded neon lights on your right hand side just before you get to the HI roundabout and Plaza Indonesia).

PC Bum

05-08-05, 21:27

Bulai and Menteng,
Thanks for your help. I swear that the Jakarta board must be the most helpful of all on WSG. There are so many boards that you cannot even get a response if you are not a regular contributor to that area. But you guys are awesome. If you are ever in Memphis and need some info, let me know. I will be more than happy to help you out.

Just as an FYI! I will be in Jakarta June 5 - 16 and would love to meet up with any of you guys if you are interested. I am staying at Mercure Slipi, so let me know if you are interested! Thanks and keep posting.

Bulai69

05-08-05, 22:24

I have looked down there a couple of times in the past year or so. As you say it's very run down now. I think it was Lone Star I went in last time but can't be certain - it was around 8pm both times and I sat in the bar downstairs. No bules in there, I was definitely the "odd one out" - not that I was bothered by that of course, everyone was friendly - especially the girls (women). The elderly "head waitress" asked me if I was alone and, in summary, if I wanted to talk to a girl. I said "yes" of course, and soon a 5/10 girl was chatting to me. No English spoken at all by the way.

I stayed a couple of hours maybe, as I'd arrived very early by JKT standards. As I left (alone), several younger, attractive girls were heading upstairs and they eagerly invited me to join them for "kareoke". There seemed to be some action up there which I've always intended to follow up but never got round to it. I would have gone up at the time but had arranged to be elsewhere.

On another occasion I called in at lunch time: no action at all but the girls behind the bar told me that there are "banyak gadis cantik" at night - as my story above confirms. I asked one of the lunch time girls if she would come back to my hotel with me (there an then) but she said she couldn't as she had to work till 11pm. I got her HP number but never got round to following up.

Buc Punter

05-09-05, 06:05

It used to be a fun place to go about 10 years ago. Especially if you like Dangdut. It's pretty dead now and not really worth visiting. That's unfortunate because I'm a dangdut fan. Does anyone know a good place where you can see live dangdut in Jakarta that is relatively safe?

Sstudent01

05-09-05, 15:49

Can you like give a detailed direction as where exactly this graha BIP building? Give us more details on picking up ladies in this dragonfly. High society huh? Does it gives off sense of snobbiness in that place?From Planet Hollywood, you need go more a couple block and it will be on your left. You cannot using t-shirt to go in dragon fly, at least shirt or polo shirt, the way I see the girls there is gorgeous, but I dont think that will be that easy to be freebies, it will take times.

Travel to Monger

05-09-05, 17:23

I was recently in Jakarta on a short business trip and found myself with some free time in the afternoon so I decided to check out a couple of the massage parlors in the Kota area. I posted a brief review of Berlian on May 4, Berlian and Kartika are just a few doors apart on the same small alleyway. The detailed directions on locating the establishments are reposted at the bottom of this post.

For the new readers of this forum, Kartika is a Soapy Massage place, possibly Jakarta’s only such establishment. (If any of the Jakarta experts are reading this post, perhaps you could correct this possible inaccuracy.) I ended up visiting this place on two occasions, my first visit was on a Wednesday afternoon around 3:00 and my second visit was on the following Sunday afternoon at around the same time, the difference between going on a workday and going on weekend turned out to effect the quality of the services available, more on that later.

As with Berlian and the Melawai 5+1, Kartika’s décor is standard issue Asian massage parlor. When you enter the establishment there is a long row of vinyl bench seating on your immediate left where the majority of the girls are lounging/sitting/sleeping, a small U-shaped bar directly in front and another, small area behind the bar where additional girls are lounging on the same vinyl bench seating arrangement.

On my first visit (weekday afternoon) I was very pleasantly surprised to see 100+ girls sitting on the benches and sitting/standing around the bar. I much prefer this type of setup over the fishbowl places as it allows you to consume a few Bintangs while chatting with the girls, as would be expected, many of the girls didn’t speak English very well, but there were a few who could carry on a pleasant, if limited conversation.

Initially upon entering, some of the more aggressive girls did try to get me to rush my selection and get started, however, after clearly communicating that I wanted to relax and consume some Bintangs in advance of my selection, I was given just the right amount of attention to feel welcome but still have the ability to accurately survey the available talent.

As I mentioned above, there were literally 100+ girls available, with the looks ranging from 2 to 9 (on my not to overly critical rating scale). On my two visits, I think that I can safely say that there were fewer very attractive (7-9) girls at Kartika than at Berlian. For the occasional visitor such as myself, I don’t think that a relatively small number of very attractive girls is a major concern, I am only looking for one or two very attractive girls at any given time and this number always seems to be available. BTW, I often wonder how the far less attractive girls actually make a living in this competitive market place with a fixed price structure, why would anyone prefer one of the fugglies when for the same price you can pick someone that is truly beautiful. BTW, if the option to select from a large selection of the upper end girls is important, I would recommend limiting visits to weekday afternoons because on Sunday afternoon many of the best looking girls appeared to already be servicing other customers when I arrived.

Once you make your selection, the girl, or girls, will lead you upstairs to a collection of fairly small rooms with a tub and a vinyl covered bed that is very nicely surrounded by mirrors so that you can enjoy the show from multiple viewing angles. The session starts out with the girl washing your body with a handheld shower head and then directing you to lie down on the vinyl covered bed. While you are waiting she will wash her body and prepare a pitcher of pleasantly hot, very soapy water.

After her shower, the girl will cover your body with the hot soapy water and then begin an alternating, body-to-body slip-and-slide session with an actual massage. The girls are amazingly adept at sliding around your body without slipping all the way off and landing on the floor. After massaging and slipping around your backside for several minutes, she will wriggle her slippery body under your face down body, rubbing all the correct body parts in a way that is most enjoyable.

Next she will flip you over and spend a shorter amount of time on your topside. Of course, for the Asian old hands this is nothing new, and the Soapys in Thailand are in another league, but if you have never had the opportunity to experience this type of play, I strongly recommend that you give it a go.

At the conclusion of the actual massage, the girl will wash the soap off both your bodies, and then the session turns into the standard AMP operation with the ending being just about as happy as you want it, any way you want it.

If I recall properly, the house charges 220,000 Rp and the girl who will have put forth some effort during the massage will justifiably expect a tip. Tipping in these places is something that I am not really all that comfortable with, I don’t want to be offensively cheap, but I also don’t want to be responsible for driving up the price point. Could one of the Jakarta regulars offer some insight into recommended tipping levels?

Kartika – Soapy Massage
Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 114/32 Telp. 639-7211
Jakarta – Barat

Berlian is a "massage" parlour and bar in the Kota area in the north of Jakarta. The best way to find it is to get to the corner of Jalan (Jl = jalan = street) Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk These are major roads so you'll find them easily on a map and any Blue Bird or Silver Bird taxi driver will know how to get there.

If you stand on that corner (which is a "T" junction) with your back to Jl Mangga Besar (you'll see a big filthy canal in front of you), you turn left into Hayam Wuruk. Walk about 100 or so metres down Hayam Wuruk past a bus stop until you come to the first small laneway with a bakery on the corner. Turn left into that lane and follow it down a short distance until you see the Berlian on your right. You'll see the neon sign with "Berlian" on it.

Menteng

05-09-05, 23:34

Buc,

If you think that Blora is relatively safe, than Asmoro in that street is an option.
I know of another one in the Melawai district. Behind the hotel where 5+1 is located, is a (bowling rink?+) pool hall annex dangdut cafe. If I'm not mistaken the name is Lipstick.

Jkt After Dark 2

05-10-05, 07:05

Gonzo #2, Bulai69, Menteng:

The bars you guys are talking is off Jalan Sudirman. It is on the right side if you are from Blok M. Robberry incidents happened from time to time on the left side/ off Jalan Sudirman: accross these bars. LS Bar in particular is the infamous hang out place for Preman (read: gangsters). They go to this bar to spend money. Fights and rumbles were rampagn. These peole have no problem killing people over small matters.

Word of advice. DON'T GO TO BLORA BARS.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Calico

05-10-05, 08:48

It has been a while since we hear John's input in the forum. I hope he is doing well. Anybody knows ?

Mighty Spearsman

05-10-05, 16:40

Dear Travel to Monger:

Thanks for your very descriptive review about Kartika. I realize that you may not want to post any specific details of any specific session that you yourself may or may not have had, but what you did post was very useful.

Regarding tips, the girls at these places hope to receive a 50,000 tip, I suppose 25,000 is also ok (anthing less would not be fair as the girls receive very little if anything from the house fee). Keep in mind that the girls who work in the sneaker factories and other factories in and around Jakarta earn around 20,000 to 30,000 per day.

I myself have also wondered how some of the "fugglies" survive working in a place such as Kartika or Berlian. On the other hand, a routine tip of 25,000 to 50,000 for one session is probably enough money for a girl to survive on (of course, this assumes that even the fugglies have at least one customer per day). My guess is that there are a few customers each day who are too drunk to care who they are picking.

One thing not mentioned in TTM's post was the opportunity to have a 2-girl session at Kartika - not cheap (2 house fees @ 220,000 and 2 tips @ 50,000 = 540,000) but certainly something to be experienced at least once by every healthy adult male!

Back in February/March I had great sessions at Kartika with Cynthia and Krista (early 20s) and Sonia (mid-30s). All three are recommended, especially Cynthia.

HRC

05-11-05, 04:29

I would have to disagree with Xapmat's description of Dragongfly as "an excellent mongering venue." I went there few times with indonesian friends. The club is on an upscale side and there are many beautiful ladies. Not too many expats, mainly indo-chinese crowd. It seems that most of the people there are regulars. So while not denying the possibility of hooking up with a classy lady, I would say the person has to be an insider to succeed.

Gonzo Two

05-11-05, 04:52

hi jad,

appreciate your warnings about blora bars. however, as a brief extract from today's jakarta post shows, jakarta's gangsters turn up all over the place even - especially - in five star hotels, where, as you say, they seem quite willing to kill over very small matters:

[from the jakarta post}

adiguna, a younger brother of businessman pontjo sutowo -- one of the owners of the hilton hotel in jakarta where the fatal shooting took place on jan. 1 -- has been charged with violating article 338 of the criminal code on intentional murder and article 1 section 1 of emergency law no.12/1951 on possession of an unlicensed firearm.

the prosecutors said that adiguna was guilty of shooting and killing the victim rudy natong on jan. 1 at the fluid bar in the hilton hotel based on eyewitness testimony over the course of the trial.

in previous sessions, witnesses, such as daniel sibarani and cut nina, confirmed that adiguna shot his gun at rudy's head.

"we believe that adiguna pulled the trigger of his smith and wesson .22 caliber revolver three times, before the third bullet hit rudy in the forehead and eventually took his life," said the prosecutor.

prosecutors also cited a police report stating that the murder weapon, along with 19 bullets confirep001ed from adiguna's hilton hotel room after the shooting, was not registered with the national police.

Mighty Spearsman

05-11-05, 09:04

Back in July-August 2004, our esteemed and valued colleague Bulai69 wrote some posts recommending a new massage parlor named Citra Traditional Massage, located at street level on the side street going west from Plaza Indonesia and the (now closed) Hotel Indonesia, diagonally across from the entrance to Ascott Apartments. I stopped by this place twice back in late August and found the place to be massage-and-HJ-only, with no shower and relatively uninspired masseuses.

Stopped by this place again during my visit to Jakarta earlier this year, and found that the entire staff of masseuses had changed, with much better choices now. Plus, this place now offers outcall, where the girl will come to your hotel room for a 90 minute massage for 70,000 rupiah plus tip. I choose one young lady (mid to late 20s) for an evening outcall visit to my nearby hotel room, and enjoyed my session so much that I invited her back again for a second visit a few days later. Still not FS, but a fun GFE-type session each time.

Because of security concerns, I won't post any details on the board. Regular posters can PM me for more details.

John Aldrich

05-11-05, 18:01

thanks calico,

i am here in jakarta kicking and alive. i keep looking up the forum everyday. and in case i have not contributed, its not because i am not on the job. i am indeed very much on the job. but the moment i want to post something here i find someone giving some great details of the place. and i do not want duplicate postings. and in maribaya the number of girls have got reduced. the stunners like beela, rhima etc in the second shift have quit. i was there last week and only a very few girls around. siska tells me that the management could not offer the minimum guarantee and so decided to reduce the number of girls.

i have also found one more new avenue to find girls. that is the dating sites. have been pretty successful. in fact a couple of weeks back i contacted bulai69 to give me the contact details of the service apartment in thamrin mentioned by him here. bulai 69, i had to give up the idea of staying there. i figured out the girl coming over from balikpapan was a secretary in an oil company and has been working with quite a few expats over there in balikpapan. and in fact she called me and asked me whether she could check into either mulia or marriot in her corporate rate. but i said no and i checked her into le meridien. had some real fun for 2 nights and two days. i did host her. in fact i was just checking on the total cash out flow. the entire exercise of hosting her here in meridien was about 2.9million. the hotel bill alone was 895k per night. tried negotiating at the reception for a lesser rate but they refused. did not want to go through my company. but i guess it was worth it. i guess the 60 hours that she spent with me was just wonderful.

dont ask me for her hp no. but in case someone wants her contact details then pm me for the dating site and her profile id. that way you could send in your details to her and get her to respond. and build a relationship with her and get her here the next time she comes to jakarta for a weekend.

this is the 7th girl i could lay my hands through the various dating sites and it really is exciting. the gfe is just amazing. but guys never ever reveal your indentity. dont ever let them know your employers details, the office area and especially your apt. just keep them hooked through the hp. not that i am telling you to play around with the girls emotionally. the one who is willing to come and sleep with you wants to get physical desperately. but in case she does gets the wind of your place then you had it.

i have this foolish friend of mine from sydney working with one of the un projects here. he got friendly with one of the managers in bi. she went through a divorce about 3 years back. i kept telling this guy, not to reveal his identity. but like a stupid fool, he not only gave her his card but also took her to his apt and kepped humping her. she wanted it desperately. and then she started talking marriage after about 4 weeks of his laying his hands on her.

he realised his folly. but she kept coming to his apartment. and he instructed the security not to let her in and she was turned out from the apartment. she being a manager in bi had her contacts. came back with the police and told the guy, look here, get married or i file a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case on you.

its been 3 days now. his bosses have landed trying to rescue him. they are trying to talk their way out through by offering money. she has turned around and told them that she is willing to give him double than what he can offer, but he has to marry her. immigration has been informed that this guy cannot leave the country.we tried smuggling him out and that is when we were told in the airport that the police has informed the immigration that he can't leave. we tried offering money. but figured out that the boss of the girl has spoken to some very influential politician and he is stuck.

and this moronish friend of mine is 33 years old and this girl is 38 with 2 kids from her previous marriage. and he is literally in house arrest. the girl's boss and his friends, all huge looking are there in the apartemnt. the guys are pretty respectful and polite, but are cajoling him to agree for the marriage. and we have given up,and realised that they may lose patience and use intimidatory tactics if he tries to be still stubborn.

what a way to be stuck.

Bulai69

05-11-05, 21:13

JAD - many thanks ! after I read "These peole have no problem killing people over small matters." I decided I won't go back after all..

Dorman

05-12-05, 01:30

Jeez guys, now your scaring me, I'm not sure which is more frightening JAD's 'preman' or John Aldrich's bunny boiler, probably the latter. It might be worth pointing out that the incident in the Hilton did not involve gangsters but the coked up idiot son of one of Indonesia's wealthiest families who just happened to own the hotel, actually I don't suppose that makes it any less scary, 'Taxi! To the airport please, I'm getting the first plane to the UK', 'Nah, just kidding.'

Teegee

05-12-05, 06:09

Please put me on the guest list!
Many thanks

John Aldrich

05-12-05, 16:07

The guy whom I mentioned here of having had some fun with a high profile manager of BI is literally under house arrest. He has given in. And to add fuel to fury this bloke had taken nude pix of hers in his HP which she revealed. It was checked today from his HP and it was there. He has agreed for the marriage. They are getting married this monday. But he has to now move to the girls house which is in the BI colony in Slipi and he will be escorted everywhere. He could also move with his new bride into her parents house. Apparently the girl ( woman) belongs to a rich army general family and drives to BI in a Merc. We beleive they are placing an army escort with him to chaperon him everywhere. But he has been moved this evening to Menteng to the girl's dad's house.

Hope we have some learnings here. No more identities at alllll.

Jakboy

05-12-05, 16:20

After discovering this site last week I was keen to make some forays into WM territory.

1. On recommendation from a cabbie, went up to a MP is Majestik, near blok M (think called Sentral). Extremely pretty girl and good sex, she had excellent technique, starting with a BBBJ and following up with some amazing technique during FS - she could pulsate in ways I never experienced before. Worked out to 400 + 180 for the room - which i would classify as expensive. Havent been there again.
2. Saturday afternoon and off to Lokasari Today country. God that place is so dark, i was sure i would have no clue and way of selecting well. soon enough the waiter got a girl to sit next to me, cute and the way i like it - slim and tall. Was too dark to guage her age or loosk very well, though in the dark (and i wasnt drunk) she didnt look repulsive. 10 mts later we were in the little room at the back. think it was 200 for her and 50 for the room. Once inside she was revealed to be both young and pretty. Had a good time, turned out she ACTUALLY wanted to go (with me) to Mille on the top floor because she liked E's. But the sex was great BBBJ included, she didnt behave like a professional - (i mean that as a positive). So in all it was great, really enjoyed it and am thinking of heading over again soon - i could delude myself that it was rather like a GFE.

3. Sunday early evening and off to Berlian. Read too much of the WSG before and was a little stressed about the Gono risk so this time so popped a 500mg of cipro before i set out. Not a bad idea i think.

Slim pickings at Berlian may be 15-20 girls all in the 5-7 range. Chose Fifi (could be spelt Vivi i guess). and had the soap massage - for the first time, its discussed in detail a little earlier so i wont go over it again). But there is something decidedly 70's about sliding around slicked up with a naked girl on a rexine bed while a fading large framed poster of Marilyn Monroe looking down from the wall and not so distant sounds of moaning waft into the room. The girl and the sex were average I guess - after about 15 mts in 2-3 positions i decided to cum. reflected at the time that theres something about sex - when you enjoy it too much or not enough you tend to blow earlier than you should.

Thats it for the first round - im intrigued by the thought of a dial-a-fucklet - if anyone is willing to share any numbers I would be really grateful (pm me) - there are some cuties on the photo section. and I promise to reciprocate when able.

Also - if anybody knows any of the (infamous) Transit hotels that i can check into for 6 hrs at a time it would be great. i like the thought of afternoon and evening romps and then heading back for a beer and to my own bed.

thats it from me - more as i go along. so far its just been a welcoming in jakarta. These girls are the best ever.

John Aldrich

05-12-05, 17:01

Jakman,

The soapy massage is not at Berlian but the one li'l beyond it which is known as kartika. Might be you'd have mixed up the names.

You can try Menteng 1 and Menteng 2 hotels. They have transit rooms. But you need to produce your id.Or just go back to one of my posts which tells you about a motel near Pancoran, Carrefour. No id required. Just drive the car straight into the garage. They guy will pull the garage shutter down. And you enter the room from inside the garage.They charge Rp180K for 6 hours. The room is pretty big with mirrors all over, pretty big sofa set, airconditioned and a kingsize bed and a wash room which is prtetty big, but functional ( meaning no bathtub etc)

After discovering this site last week I was keen to make some forays into WM territory.

1. On recommendation from a cabbie, went up to a MP is Majestik, near blok M (think called Sentral). Extremely pretty girl and good sex, she had excellent technique, starting with a BBBJ and following up with some amazing technique during FS - she could pulsate in ways I never experienced before. Worked out to 400 + 180 for the room - which i would classify as expensive. Havent been there again.
2. Saturday afternoon and off to Lokasari Today country. God that place is so dark, i was sure i would have no clue and way of selecting well. soon enough the waiter got a girl to sit next to me, cute and the way i like it - slim and tall. Was too dark to guage her age or loosk very well, though in the dark (and i wasnt drunk) she didnt look repulsive. 10 mts later we were in the little room at the back. think it was 200 for her and 50 for the room. Once inside she was revealed to be both young and pretty. Had a good time, turned out she ACTUALLY wanted to go (with me) to Mille on the top floor because she liked E's. But the sex was great BBBJ included, she didnt behave like a professional - (i mean that as a positive). So in all it was great, really enjoyed it and am thinking of heading over again soon - i could delude myself that it was rather like a GFE.

3. Sunday early evening and off to Berlian. Read too much of the WSG before and was a little stressed about the Gono risk so this time so popped a 500mg of cipro before i set out. Not a bad idea i think.

Slim pickings at Berlian may be 15-20 girls all in the 5-7 range. Chose Fifi (could be spelt Vivi i guess). and had the soap massage - for the first time, its discussed in detail a little earlier so i wont go over it again). But there is something decidedly 70's about sliding around slicked up with a naked girl on a rexine bed while a fading large framed poster of Marilyn Monroe looking down from the wall and not so distant sounds of moaning waft into the room. The girl and the sex were average I guess - after about 15 mts in 2-3 positions i decided to cum. reflected at the time that theres something about sex - when you enjoy it too much or not enough you tend to blow earlier than you should.

Thats it for the first round - im intrigued by the thought of a dial-a-fucklet - if anyone is willing to share any numbers I would be really grateful (pm me) - there are some cuties on the photo section. and I promise to reciprocate when able.

Also - if anybody knows any of the (infamous) Transit hotels that i can check into for 6 hrs at a time it would be great. i like the thought of afternoon and evening romps and then heading back for a beer and to my own bed.

thats it from me - more as i go along. so far its just been a welcoming in jakarta. These girls are the best ever.

Member #2027

05-13-05, 02:15

John

I too have had the soapy massage at Berlian - it is definitely available there.

Best regards

Stiff in Jakarta

05-13-05, 02:37

John,

Your story about the bloke being forced to marry the generals daughter is absolutly mind boggling. Keep us all up to date on the developments if possible. Its almost enough to put you off mongering. Almost I said. Perhaps a mongering wallet with a second ID etc is a new product that can be marketed on the site, he he.

Long Stroker

05-13-05, 04:16

Good God almighty, John Aldrich, that is one depressing story you are telling, man! Thanks for the words of wisdom and warning.

So what happens after the wedding? Is he free to leave the country? How soon before he can file for divorce? Will the family follow him to Australia?

John Aldrich

05-13-05, 05:43

This guy went and messed up with a wrong girl. A US educated girl working with Bank Indonesia as a senior Manager, and a daughter of a high profile army general. On the face of it, it looks unlikely whether he will be allowed to go alone anywhere or even travel alone at all. I guess it would take some more time before things cool down, bu which time either the guy really starts to love her or the girl reconciles to the fact that no one can be made a husband by force. And to think of it, the Australian embassy was informed confidentially by the home ministry about the misdemeanour means the guy is now the son in law of a big time family.

Good God almighty, John Aldrich, that is one depressing story you are telling, man! Thanks for the words of wisdom and warning.

So what happens after the wedding? Is he free to leave the country? How soon before he can file for divorce? Will the family follow him to Australia?

Dorman

05-13-05, 05:50

Reading John Aldrich's story certainly put the fear of the living Christ into me. I have had a few girls who won't take no for an answer (one still regualrly sms's me even though I've told her I got married and live in New Zealand, I met this chick over two years ago and still she doesn't give up). In my apartment block the security entry codes are regularly changed coz some clowns keep bringing girls home, telling them the code and then finding themselves plagued by the girls arriving at all hours.

So let me give a couple of tips that I use. First of all by a used mobile phone for a few dozen dollars ('HP second') and a cheap sim card (Telkomsel, Simpati is best), then set up a Hotmail or Yahoo email address. Go to a stationary store and print up 100 business cards using a false name (middle name and mother's maiden name are a good choice), the email address and your new number. For an address choose something like, oh I don't know Suite 307, Jalan Nusantara Kav 6 No. 97, Manado (no I've no idea if such a place exists). Tell your little friends you're based up there and only visit Jakarta every few months or weeks or whatever, that's why you only stay in the Melawai Hotel. Don't forget to give yourself a fancy title; "International Administrative Affairs Executive". Now you have created a plausible identity that gives you complete control of when and where you meet her later.

You'll get lots of emails and text messages if you hand these out in malls or bars and you can decide how you handle it, but for heaven's sake play it safe, John's story is a warning to us all, some of these girls are predatory to the point of psychosis.

KL Guy

05-13-05, 09:52

Guys I'm from KL and will be in Jakarta from 18th till 25th of May. I need some help to get contacts to either pimps or the grils themselves while I'm there!

Many thanks in advance. I will return the favour once u visit e here in KL Malaysia!

My email address is [Email Address deleted by Admin].

Thanks in advance!

KLGuy

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Fun Times69

05-13-05, 11:30

Thanks for all the regular posters who give so much information that I used during my recent trip to Jakarta / Bali. It came in very useful.

On the hotel front. Whilst in Jakarta I stayed at Ibis Acardia. I wouldn't recommend it as the couple of times I took girls back I was forced to endure what can only be described as a walk of shame. Maybe it was that I returned the first time at 8.30am with girl in tow but as I walked into the lobby pretty much all the staff were standing there (12?) just smilling and watching this wreaked bule with his Indonesian non-pro. A not enjoyable experience on that front. Any tips for hotels in the 300-400,000 Rp range much appreciated. I like the area so would like to stay round there next time.

I suppose the fact that I was one of those bule English Teachers in Jakarta last time I stayed meant I was drawn to Jalan Jaksa. Speaking personally I find the atmosphere there relaxed and not at all like some of the meat markets you can end up in. The Indonesian girls I did speak to all seem to go to pretty much all the same places - BATS, CJ's, My Bar, Jalan Jaksa - and the difference I find is the price of the girls and the beer. I'd much rather sit and chat whilst finding the right girl drinking a beer for 14,000 Rp rather than going to CJ's which I find small, noisy and expensive on all counts. I told the girls I was working in Jakarta and had just arrived - holiday prior to starting my job. It seemed to change the atmosphere - maybe they were after a relationship - and they became more relaxed towards having a good night out with 'taxi money' at the end rather than starting with negotiations on price etc. Bar BFC down Jaksa gets pretty full later on in the evening with a very mixed crowd of bule and Indonesians. I ended up with some very good arrangements with two girls there. One slightly older (35) but very chatty and good fun and a stunner (23). They were both lush to take back.

Stadium - I accept its not what some people are looking for but I had some great times there. I got there, avoided the pro-zones and stalked the upper area above the dance floor for a bit until I bumped into a group of girls. A couple of drinks later I had latched onto one of them and after several hours dancing she ended up coming back to my hotel (see walk of shame!). Taxi money was all she was looking for. We exchanged HP numbers (I had bought a mentari sim card upon getting into the country) and she wandered off home.

Picking up a freelancer is pretty easy there. Just wander around away from the pro areas until you catch someones eyes or they 'accidently' bump into you. I had a definate GFE with the girl I found - shower together, BBJJ, full kissing (maybe I'm just a bit old fahioned here but thats something I really enjoy). She was definately a semi-pro as she had a change of clothes in her bag (ie - to change from club wear to day wear) but we both got what we wanted.

I didn't get round to trying out the MP's mentioned as I spent my few days meeting up with old friends and a long term project I have so in total my report is shorter than it might have been. I have also included in report in the Bali section for the time I spent there.

Lets be honest about the status of these 'non-pros'. In Indonesia reputation means everything to a young woman. 'Good girls' wouldn't be seen dead in the kind of bars/clubs mentioned in the forum so pretty much all the girls we meet are semi-pros at the least. 'Good girls' in their mid twenties have 10pm curfews from their families.

I feel that pretty much all of the semi-pros over the course of the week will visit nearly all the bars mentioned in the forum and that they charge according to the bar they are in at the time although I might be corrected on this. I hope this has been useful for everyone I've always found the reports from others fasinating. Happy mongering!

Menteng

05-13-05, 16:28

Dorman,

Oh my, my G..!!! You bast...!! You published my homeaddress in Manado. How could you?! Oh, oh, oh, how will I explain to my wife who those girls are, banging on the front door??!!

Jakboy

05-14-05, 06:16

Dead certain it was the Berlian - may be the have expanded their offerings (time for you to pay a visit to renew some acquaintances :-) )

Meanwhile, I found the post about Pancoran, now lets hope I find the place (and a cewek to take there...)

Jakman,

The soapy massage is not at Berlian but the one li'l beyond it which is known as kartika. Might be you'd have mixed up the names.

You can try Menteng 1 and Menteng 2 hotels. They have transit rooms. But you need to produce your id.Or just go back to one of my posts which tells you about a motel near Pancoran, Carrefour. No id required. Just drive the car straight into the garage. They guy will pull the garage shutter down. And you enter the room from inside the garage.They charge Rp180K for 6 hours. The room is pretty big with mirrors all over, pretty big sofa set, airconditioned and a kingsize bed and a wash room which is prtetty big, but functional ( meaning no bathtub etc)

John Aldrich

05-14-05, 10:00

Jakboy,

I was in Berlian even last night. Berlian and Kartika are next to each other. And I know Berlian like the back of my hand. In case you go through the old posts here you will find that I was the first guy to have posted about the MP's in Kota, namely, Tin Tin, Ibu Linda and Berlian. And in fact last nite I even mentioned to the counter lady over there about your posting and asked her if they have started the soapy massage service and she said no, maybe misuynderstood with Kartika.

Initially even I used to get mixed up with names especially when one visits quite a few places. It does not matter as long as one can have some fun. Both are good places.

Dead certain it was the Berlian - may be the have expanded their offerings (time for you to pay a visit to renew some acquaintances :-) )

Meanwhile, I found the post about Pancoran, now lets hope I find the place (and a cewek to take there...)

Jkt After Dark 2

05-14-05, 13:05

Bulai69,

No problem man. It was always a pleasure to blow the whistle. My concern is everybody's wellbeing. Take care.

John Aldrich:

B. Indonesia term for soapy massage is body massage. Perhaps there was a miscommunication. Berlian offers more competitive service than Kartika.

Kartika charges 220K for 1 hour session of soapy massage and FS. Most guys give 250K. 30 min soapy massage ritual. Say 15 min sex. 1 threw only. You are expected to tip at least 150K for the second round. The intercom bell rings once at 45 min. Most girls at Kartika manage to finish everthing within 45 min.

Berlian charges 200K for 1 hour session of soapy massage, FS, and traditional massage. Berlian allows 2 threws without tipping obligation. Most of the time the service go upto 1 hour 30 min.

Collections are in their 20s and 30s. The drawbacks at Berlian are fewer sellection and less attractive girls.

About the shotgun marriage. Sad story. It was his mistake playing this game without lifting precautions. A very naive friend of of mine took a karaoke girl to his apartment. He was forced to ask the assistant of the administration and the security to keep her out of the apartment. Now ... he had to move out. He said he couldn't stand the stare of shame.

There is this saying never marry someone for the money. It is cheaper to borrow. We were told this doctrine when we were young. But ... obviously the girls at CJs, BATS, and Tiga Puluh found out ... THEY CAN TAKE OUR MONEY WITHOUT MARRYING US. :D:D:D

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Long Stroker

05-14-05, 15:54

Dorman,

Your deceptive approach to the sinful lifestyle is a great inspiration to me. It is really all about creating a plausible cover story, isn't it? Thanks for the excellent suggestions.

Calico

05-16-05, 08:20

John,

Good to know that everything is well. I always look foward to reading your posts. Have a nice day!

Calico

John Aldrich

05-16-05, 14:20

Hi JAD

Long time no see. How have you been. What you say is what I am also saying JAD. That Berlian offers great service and not the service of kartika. Especially the soapy one given on the vinyl bed.

Anyway, how has life been. Am sure you'd have been having a great time, Oh King of the nights!!

Doggestyle

05-17-05, 07:18

JAD bro,

I am from KL, Malaysia. Will be going to Jakarta this 28th May 2005( Saturday). It will be a touch n go trip. Need a favor as time is gold for me there. I would like to find a girl for one night. Don't know yet which hotel I will be staying, will inform u before flight. I like to book a girl to use for 1 whole night. How much would it cost? What is the rate for RM1,000 malaysia ringgit in rupiah? what would it cost if I want to have at least a 7/10 rateing of a girl in terms of GFE services, looks etc. Please revert soon. thanks. dogge out

Jkt After Dark 2

05-17-05, 11:53

john aldrich,

yes. it has been a long time. i have been doing fine. i hope it goes the same way with you.

soapy massage services

add to what i wrote last time about soapy massage service. bordello, be it a massage parlour or a bar or a disco, normally charge between 150-250k per 1 hour all inclusive including room. normal practice is 1 threw only. hotel melawai charges 300k. there is another class called spa. i refer this to non-hotel spas. there are 2 type of working girls in this class: therapist and lady companion.

lady companion only offer straight sex service. many are foreigners. most prc in this category know shiatsu massage. prc, vietnamese, thai, and ruskies charge between 650-1.500k per 1 hour all inclusive including room. normal practice is 1 threw only. local lady companion charge between 500-800k per 1 hour all inclusive including room. normal practice is 1 threw only.

therapists charge between 200-300k per 1.30 hour for massage therapy. fs extra service will cost you around 300k. you have to nego directly. hotel massage service charge a bit cheaper, say between 100-200k per 45 minutes. however, fs extra service can be very pricey, say between 500-1.000k.

therapists at casanova spa, sumo shiatsu, and another one in a hotel at pecenongan area offer soapy massage. the best thing is they use warm water based oil. casanova charges 500k per 1 hour all inclusive including room. on top of the body massage normal practice is 1 threw only. sumo shiatsu and the another one in a hotel at pecenongan area charge 500k per 1.30 hour for massage therapy and fs. they charge 700k per 1.30 hour for massage therapy, soapy massage, and fs.

dispatchers

dispatcher provides out-call service only. dispatcher normally bills by 3 hours block for full service companionship, double for overnight, and triple for 1 day. 3 hours block rates range from 3 million to 7 million rupiah (usd335.00 to usd780.00). these rates are fixed. dispatcher normally works with picture or descriptions or line-up in the privacy of your hotel room. dispatcher is the mobile version of escort agency. in many sense dispatcher is just another escort agency.

you should get a model look alike service provider for 5 million to 7 million rupiah (usd560.00 to usd780.00) for 3 hours block. swimsuit and porn photo models and b class telenovela actresses' rate for 3 hours normally around 7 million rupiah (usd780.00). ram/catwalk models' rate for 3 hours normally around 10 million rupiah (usd1,120.00). a class telenovela actresses' rate for 3 hours normally around 35 million rupiah (usd3,890.00).

for a good quality service at reasonable rate you should experience spg (sales promo girl). there has been a misconception about spg in many escort review sites. spgs are not sales/parfum counter girls. real spgs are expo hostesses typically educated, pleasing personality, tall, not older than 22 year. most are in college. few are still in high schoool. they also avail themselves as usherettes for seminars and umbrella girls during race seasons. young, firm, tight, and clean.

spg agencies bill their corporate clients upto 500k rupiah (usd55.00) for a 6 hour shift just to stand, greet, and sell their charms. agencies normally bill another 10 percent agency fee on top of supervisory fee. spgs get between 75 percent to 100 percent of their billable fees. the percentages depend on negotiation. demographically speaking they are not those sales/parfum counter girls or factory workers who make 750k rupiah (usd83.00) a month.

spgs' 3 hours block rates for full service companionship start from 3 million rupiah (usd335.00). double for overnight, and triple for 1 day. these rates are fixed.

words of advice. only deal with reputable dispatchers. do not simply trust people who bump you in the elevator claiming to have spgs in their collection or contact with these models and actresses.

escort agencies/houses

escort agency provides out-call service only. escort agency normally bills by 3 hours block for full service companionship, double for overnight, and triple for 1 day. 3 hours block rates start from 3 million rupiah (usd335.00). these rates are fixed. escort agency has fish tank where you can view and choose the companion.

this are what jakarta has to offer at present. i realize jakarta has lack of bordello and spa pricing outcall service and middle pricing escort service.

jakarta after dark

XXL

05-17-05, 18:30

At Hotel Travel (Mangga Besar VIII), the fish tank turned out to be half the size of Stadium 3rd floor's and the quality was also slightly below Stadium's. I was about to opt for a white-skinned girl whom mamasan was recommending as providing "service bagus" when I recognised her as Nufi (pron. "Nu-fee"). I wrote something about Nufi some months back. I had met her on a Saturday night during one of my all-night sprees in Stadium where she'd popped in for a bit of disco fun after her day's work at HT. She had been good and I'd had her again on outcall to Mercure Hotel later, but now I wanted to taste new flesh. I pointed to Diane: round face, round mouth and round eyes. Alas, not only did Diane cease to be good-looking (often happens with fish-tanks) the moment she stood up from her tier but once in the room she proved to be very dim-witted as well. Instead of sounding grateful when I whipped out that master of all Sex Facilitators, the Durex Lube Tube, Diane held it in the light and stared at it for minutes as though in contained a toad in formaldehyde. By the time I'd grabbed possession of my Lube to generously apply it to our genitalia she'd taken it into her mind that it was some kind of narcotic ointment. She held a hand to her chest, like a witness swearing on the bible, and complained of tachycardia, sighing "wow, strong stuff you gave me there, very strong"! Never mind, at 250 thousand Rp, HT's fare is still less than a parking ticket back here, not enough to dent my good spirits on my first night in JKT. HT was never on my shopping list and this will not change. It has less to offer than Stadium 3rd floor and it is even more lacking in atmosphere.

I've seen Stadium 4th floor decline steadily over the years since I discovered Jakarta in 1999. There are still good pickings to be had though, provided you arrive between 9 and 10. I warmly recommend Elisa (pron. Eh-lee-sa), round-faced, good tail-end by Asian standards, medium-sized tits, half-shaven pussy, she unmistakenly liked it when I pounded her from behind. We talked a bit after sex while she combed her hair and fixed her make-up. She was impressed when I told her that I had known Stadium for such a long time. "In those days, I remarked, you were probably still at school Elisa?". She chuckled: "At school? In the paddy-field, that's where I was!". In my mind's eye, I tried to picture her knee-deep in muddy water, her bare feet churning the leech-infested mud, tattered clothes clinging to her tender flesh in the humid Java air. Turning to me from the Stadium mirror she pinched her upper arm between thumb and forefinger, setting her face into an angry frown as she repeated: "paddy field!". Poor, dear little thing: she didn't blame her parents or Society for depriving her of a proper education and childhood and predestinating her to a life of prostitution, no, rather she blamed paddy field work for endowing her with overdeveloped biceps! Probably now the tallest of mamasan girls in St. 4th, Lia (pron. Lee-ah) has a wide mouth that gives her a somewhat sharkish profile. Her tanned complexion and high stature would qualify her as a termas girl in Rio or Sao Paulo. Lia is a former Maybar stripper. She enjoyed stripping at Maybar but, as she put it, her boss (i.e. mamasan) called her back to Stadium. Lia took pride in her body height, her tattoo, her overall success with bules ("I'm a very busy girl") and made no secret of having tried out a lot of things, including heroin. A staunch supporter of former dictator Suharto, she reminisced that in Suharto's time there was drugs everywhere. "Even his son dealt in it", she added, meaning the infamous Tommy Suharto, the man who inundated his country with crystal meth and is now serving a long-term gaol sentence. "Now Stadium is finished, Lia went on: too many gays and too many police raids". I concurred with her on principle but of course, before Suharto's plunge exchange rates in Indonesia would have made our hobby very expensive. Lia also gave me some historical background on Stadium. Apparently, it had been a Protestant church before becoming one of JKT's best known flesh-spots. One only needed to examine the facade of the building to convince oneself of the churchly origin. "What was now needed in Jakarta, I volunteered, was for a former Mosque to undergo the same fate". But Lia agreed the moslems would then quickly bomb the place: Lia is a Christian. If you're a doggy-style aficionado like I am, you mustn't leave JKT without having a go at a Chinese girl by the name of Ling. She had her hair dyed red, a fashion I've noticed is widespread among Chinese girls. Ling told me she was one of only two Chinese girls in St. 4th. Unlike 1001's or Sumo's (more expensive) Chinese girls, Ling is a small girl, in good Stadium tradition. She didn't seem to get much aroused when I fucked her but she kept a smiling and client-friendly attitude throughout. What made her remarkable was the extraordinary way in which she threw up her buttocks when on all fours. She kept her belly button pretty well touching the bed while holding her butts to meet my dick. I never saw anything like it and I'll certainly want to look Ling up again next time I'm in JKT.

(to be continued ...)

KL Guy

05-17-05, 21:47

Hi Doggesan,

The present market rate should be RM1000 = 2,480,000 IDR (subject to change on a daily basis). As for girls well I'll be my 1st visit to Jakarta after many many years! So really cant help you! Anyway I'll be leaving for Jakarta tomorrow & would like to thank all those who have responded to either my PMs or posting! Hope that this trip would be an enjoyable one. Will write an FR once I return!

Warm regards,
KLGuy

JAD bro,

I am from KL, Malaysia. Will be going to Jakarta this 28th May 2005( Saturday). It will be a touch n go trip. Need a favor as time is gold for me there. I would like to find a girl for one night. Don't know yet which hotel I will be staying, will inform u before flight. I like to book a girl to use for 1 whole night. How much would it cost? What is the rate for RM1,000 malaysia ringgit in rupiah? what would it cost if I want to have at least a 7/10 rateing of a girl in terms of GFE services, looks etc. Please revert soon. thanks. dogge out

Pham888

05-19-05, 02:50

I plan to be in Jarkarta middle of July. I would love to visit vietnam later that month. Does anyone know an airline that flight direct to vietnam ? I thank you in advance for your help

Pham888

Tcvve

05-19-05, 03:39

Hi all,

I will be making my first trip to Jakarta in September. I am a Black American working for a major Investment Bank in New York City. I will probably spend 3-4 days in Jakarta before heading to Bangkok.

My question is how do the working girls treat Black Americans. Do girls service Black men in Massage Parlors, disco's etc.

Thanks.

Tom

Brandon88

05-19-05, 04:45

Thanks to XXL for a very interesting account at the Stadium. This place has always been a mysterious lure for me, and a place I dont venture into unless with friends. I remember spending an entire night in the 4th floor trance club, only to leave at 6am in the morning to find a line of people waiting to get in the door(!). On the way up (via the stairs), I do recall a number of striking young girls on the 3rd floor lined up near the stairwell. I'd love to revisit the scene, but only with like-minded friends, and that is a rarity lately.

A comment about JAD's post on the "actress/model" prices...I think that is just nuts. $700 for a 3-hr block is not something I'd entertain. I believe you can find very good-looking talent at the usual Bule bars for less than 500k rupes, so the exponential premium cannot possible be worth it. That is simply insane. But to each his own, I suppose.

In other news, It is reported that 30-Bar (Tigah Paluh) is now open again after the remodeling. I was never a fan of it before, but I'd give it a whirl again to see what has changed.

And one more note... in the Gillians pool hall in Plaza Semanggi (5th floor), there have been a number of girls playing pool in small groups who may be game, based on the obvious crowd scanning they do in between game shots. Might be worth a look if you are up for a challenge.

Domino HK

05-19-05, 04:51

Went there last night. Place has been renovated and with good deco. However, band was terrible!

Anyway, have a few drinks with 2 gals and took one back to Hotel. One of the best GFE and wet experience.

Domino HK

05-19-05, 13:57

Just been there yesterday after a fruitless venture in Blok M. The new Deco is very nice and techo. Paid Rp55k for my first glass of Bintang and walked-in. Not too crowded but the quality of gals seem to be much better than before !! However, the band was terrible, not my cup of tea at all!

Got hole of 2 gals and picked the subtle one back to my hotel. Fantasic sex, great GFE and really wet lady. Intend to visit again before leaving town.

Vision Thing

05-19-05, 16:57

Pham888,

I know that Garuda offers flights to VN (at least Saigon) through Singapore, so I suspect the flight would orginate in JKT. May take a bit longer that way, but I can't imagine it would be very expensive, as it's the cheapest way to get to SG to VN right now by air.

Bulai69

05-19-05, 20:27

Tom II - there is some prejudice against black men in Indonesia. I worked for some time with close friend who was black (Nigerian origin) British so I saw it first hand. In recent years there has been an influx of Nigerians who are perceived (I don't know if it's an accurate perception!) to be involved in drug dealing. You may be "tarred with that brush" initially. I don't think you will find overt negativity in MPs etc and although some amateurs and semi-pro's may prefer bules/binuls (white caucasians) I know others who prefer black men to bules. There are so many girls around you won't have a problem that's for sure. Enjoy your trip.

Bulai69

05-19-05, 20:49

I've just returned to UK after my shortest trip ever (3 nights). Nevertheless I scored a few times, initially with a girl I met as I was leaving the airport last trip. She was selling pens and I got her number and kept in touch for the month I was away. She met me as I flew in last week and we went straight back to my hotel together. Having mistaken her for a "sweet and innnocent" amateur I soon found otherwise and she was tremendous. A great way to start my trip. She came to my hotel on the last morning as well and came back to the airport with me, fantastic value and a great combination of looks, body, attitute and performance. There is no place else to touch Jakarta!

Bulai69

05-19-05, 20:54

This girl provided as good a BBBJ and CIM as I've ever had! She can be found in Stadium regularly though I met her through a mutual friend - some of you will know who. She's delighted with 200 - 300k

Bulai69

05-19-05, 20:59

Another one of my airport girl. The observant amongst you who remember banter about mini-bars will notice that in my eagerness to get down to action I failed to hide the selection of sprits, chocolates etc which is always one of my first acts on entering my hotel room. Inevitably I paid the price - at least my client did

Gzono

05-20-05, 03:38

I have a dilemma guys.

I have been having it off with a lovely 20 year old girl who I know find out has a "full time boyfriend bule" (whatever that means in Indo!) who travels to UAE regularly and she does the rounds when hes away. If I knew this I would not partake. Poor bastard. I also know his name.

I don't want to get involved but sometimes we become victims too-he pays her rent and h/p etc and she fuucks whoever she can.

Thats life but poor guy-or maybe hes into a few others too?

Thoughts

John Aldrich

05-20-05, 13:17

Tom II

If you evevr get to vist the Tigah Kudah discotteque ( Three Horses) in Menteng II hotel you will find that there are quite a few stunners who would'nt look at any other soul there if there is a Negro around. In fact I have had situations when I have been there, and found the girl slowly veering out of the conversation as she is having a drink to woo a black. In fact I have a colleague who is a black american and we go to Tigah Pulu together. Yes, he looks more of an Indian or middle eastern than a black american because he is as fair as north Indians if not fairer than them and he is clean shaven. But his lips gives it away that he is a black. But still I've found girls not having any aversion to him at all. In fact not only do girls fall all over him, but that bloke has now hired 2 marketing managers and keeps trotting the globe with them. His wife figured out somethin's going wrong and thretened to walk out of the marriage. We had to intervene
and get the marriage going while he still has a ball.

Once I remember, I was in Tin Tin Massage parlour when we had three africans walk in and asked how much for a massage. The girl in the reception quoted Rp150 K per hour and had no hangups about showing the pictures on the table and told them to select anyone. They wanted to see the girls. The girls came. Then these guys said they would offer Rp.100K total for one hour each for the three guys and the receptionist could decide whether one girl will take care of them or 3 girls would take care of them. This was against Rp.450K that would be the normal quote. The girl just laughed and told them that they must be joking and just left the place. She did not even bother about them. They hung around there for about 10 minutes attempting to talk. But she did not care. The guys left.

I guess this sort of negotiation is what makes them beleive that the africans don't have money.What matters is not the colour of the skin, but wether the colour of your money takes care of their empty tummy.

You will enjoy here.

Have fun,

Cheers

Hi all,

I will be making my first trip to Jakarta in September. I am a Black American working for a major Investment Bank in New York City. I will probably spend 3-4 days in Jakarta before heading to Bangkok.

My question is how do the working girls treat Black Americans. Do girls service Black men in Massage Parlors, disco's etc.

Thanks.

Tom

XXL

05-20-05, 15:36

Bulai,

Exactly my type! We'd better not hook up in JKT because we would end up fighting over the same girls. However, if there's such a girl you feel you've pressed all the juice out of as far as you are concerned and you feel bad about not wanting to see her again, feel free to pass on her number to me.

Of course, she would've lost her handset and changed her number by the time I land in JKT so it would be to no avail.

Wait a minute, I'm now editing my post because I read she's a Stadium girl. Uhm ... old Stadium is still good for a few good hits!

Tom II: you may want to first concentrate on Chinatown (Kota). In Kota places, there's some prejudice against non Asians, i.e. some girls will be reluctant to attend non Asians. It matters little however, because of the sheer numbers of girls there. Even if 20% of the girls shun you, it still leaves plenty who will find you money is as good as anyone's. As a black man, you will perhaps simply be perceived as "non Asian". You would be discriminated against, but probably no more so than me and other whites men whom Indonesians call "Orang bule". "Orang" means "man". You are an "Orang hitam" (man-black) or, in more commonly parlance, an "Orang negro". The word "negro" carries no derogatory sense in Indoensian. Don't let the Nigerian connection worry you, it can even work in your favour: dopey girls are often the wickedest and most desinhibited of all! I'm joking slightly there, but JKT never ceased to amaze me.

xxl

Key Master

05-20-05, 19:03

I find wherever I go, there is prejudice. Asians are not afraid to show it when in their own country. What you must understand though, it's not the same for everyone. While in Indonesia, I have found indonesian women prejudice against blacks but not against anyone else at that instant. But at other times I have found indonesian women prejudice against asians, in that they only went with non asian men. And at other times I have found indonesian women prejudice against white men, where they just don't go with them. The thing to understand is that it's just life and you deal with it. If you find someone who doesn't want to go with you for whatever reason, try not taking it personally and move on, because you will find someone who is willing to go with you and has nothing against your skin color or what not.

Remember don't take it personally and just move on. I have learned on quite a few trips that some of these people will treat you quite rude sometimes if they dislike you for those kinds of reason even when they don't know anything about you. Don't bother trying to change their thinking, as it will most likely be a waste of time. The reasoning approach might not work as many are stuck in their own ways and not to be mean, but the intelligence levels to comprehend some things are not there due to economic reasons or what not. Their willingness to understand also hinders them, but it's not impossible. Either way, if you're only there a short time, move on.

John Aldrich

05-20-05, 19:33

Gzono,

Never feel guilty. Not that the guy does not know. Sometimes people are blind and sometimes they act blind. Only he could figure out what category he is in. Just see some of the past postings of mine and also some other folks here. I have mentioned here about the German guy who's being taken for a ride, by this chick who use to frequent the Tavern Bar at Aryaduta Hotel. I remember someone even posted a pix of another girl who had a bule bf somewhere and who was financing her. But she was just having a ball over here. For most of these girls, its not only the money but also the addiction that they have towards sex. I am sure most would agree that the sexual urge in most girls here is pretty high compared to other parts of Asia. And that's why so many of us are experiencing girls getting wet so easily during the fuck sessions despite they being professionals.

Just dont bother. She enjoys it and you enjoy it. If you try and get the guilt feeling in here, almost most of the guys here should also be guilty because all of them are two timing too. In case one is into mongering, leave the emotion in the bedroom. Thats it. Outside of it, never have it. Or else you may land up like the guy whom you have quoted. Today you sympathise with him. Tomorrow there could be a girl who'll come and give you a tragic sob story and one would trip and fall and that's it.

I guess we need to follow the maxim, " F U C K A N D F O R G E T "

I have a dilemma guys.

I have been having it off with a lovely 20 year old girl who I know find out has a "full time boyfriend bule" (whatever that means in Indo!) who travels to UAE regularly and she does the rounds when hes away. If I knew this I would not partake. Poor bastard. I also know his name.

I don't want to get involved but sometimes we become victims too-he pays her rent and h/p etc and she fuucks whoever she can.

Thats life but poor guy-or maybe hes into a few others too?

Thoughts

Bulai69

05-20-05, 20:24

Gzono - forget this guilt stuff! If anybody should feel guilty it's her: and she won't. I made the point in a slightly different context some time ago that if you have an Indonesian girl friend and you are with her 23.5 hours a day she will be fucking someone else in the other half hour. If you give them loads of money, they fuck someone else for fun; if you don't give them enough they fuck someone for money.

Let me tell you about the "airport girl" I posted yesterday. When I was at the airport with her on my outward trip she absolutely swore to me she would be faithful, she loved me etc etc. (Unknown to her) I had arranged to meet another regular contributor to the forum at the airport as I was leaving - as soon as I went to check-in, he was swapping numbers and arranging to meet her! Then the next day a friend of mine put her in touch with another guy and that day he had her back to his hotel! Do you think she feels guilty?

I could write for the rest of the night about girls I know in JKT who have bule "boyfriends" and screw behind their backs: anybody who thinks their "girlfriend" is loyal to them is....I'll be diplomatic...somewhat naive.

XXL

05-20-05, 20:41

John,

Fuck-and-Run is okey for me but forgetting is impossible. Those girls are lifelong parasites ; once they've nestled themselves into my cerebral cortex, they stay there.

When my Final Hour has come, my whole life, as the saying goes, flashing before me, the Indo girls will be there, distinct before my inward eye. And the hospital nurse disposing of the morphine syringe will have to forgive me if in my delirium I address her as "Mamasan".

As to the blokes sending cheques, if you can find out their address you could drop them a line: "My dear fellow - Jolly nice of you to finance my girl. I just happen to be strapped for cash right now and she's certainly worth more than I could afford to pay her on my own, especially considering all the things we've been getting up to in bed together, including [long enumeration of unspeakable depravities] - Keep the cash coming - Yours truly, John-the-Lecher.

As long as there aren't too many of those alimony payers (most Indo girls only have one payer, in other countries many girls have several!) they can't much influence a girl's behaviour. A girl knows better than to stay at home in the evening just because some moron is sending her guilt money through Western Union. As suggested, it may even ease the burden you would otherwise have to shoulder: you pay for her rent, Mr West. Un. pays for her X pills, or the reverse. As a matter of personal taste, I would prefer the reverse because then, she gets all wet and horny and I get to know the side of her I'm really interested in. But money being fungible, it's immaterial.

xxl

Dorman

05-22-05, 03:37

It has to be said that racism is very prevalent in Asia, here it is not unusual to hear sentiments expressed as commonplace which people brought up in English speaking cultures would find absolutely offensive. Indeed as a white person the only incident of racial discrimination I experienced was when I was refused entrance to a bar in Bangkok as it was Japanese only.

Having said that I would think that Indonesia is probably the least racist and most tolerant of diversity of all the countries in Asia. There are a couple of reasons for this, foremost among them is that in the hodge-podge of ethnicities and cultures spread out over 17000 islands the Indonesians are well used to dealing people of a different skin colour than them. They range from the lighter skinned people of Manado and north Sulawesi to the very dark (and very beautiful) Ambonese as well as the people of Irian Jaya who seem very similar to the Aboriginal people in Australia.

Another reason is the influence of Islam, racism has never been tolerated in Islam (and no, I'm not going to deny that other more terrible things seem to be tolerated, I'm just making a point). In the context of Islam the Indonesians are part of a much wider world taking in Pakistan, the Middle East and North Africa and the intermingling of peoples from these places is very evident throughout Indonesia.

Anyway enough of the anthropology, this isn't what this forum is about, as John Aldich so eloquently put it in our game it's not the colour of your skin but the colour of your money which depends how much fun you have. Seeing gorgeous young nymphettes playfully flirting with flabby, grey faced, bald Scottish oil engineers I'd be utterly flabbergasted if a New York investment banker like Tom II couldn't have a ball here in our little corner of paradise.

So I for one would like to welcome Tom to our playground I hope he has a great time and that he keeps us informed of his activities but that he doesn't throw any crazy New York money around, as a banker he should well know the dangers of inflation!

XXL

05-22-05, 06:24

i was spotted in maribaya massage (melawai 6th floor) more than anywhere else during these 12 days. what i've come to value about maribaya is the low rate of renewal compared to kota places. my visits to jkt are spaced 4 months apart on average and as much as i like to sample new talent, i also like to reunite with girls i've met before. in the sea of unfaithfulness and depravity which is jkt, spending 300 thousand rp on the same girl at 4-month intervals is my way of being faithful. yuli is a girl i've know for some time. she has the kind of figure with something in it for any man. medium-sized tits, good tail-end, long legs. yuli is a bit of an actor in that she would feed me lines like "darling, i love you, i want you to be my only man from now on" or "you know, i am going to stop this kind of work starting next year" etc. i realise she is only trying to get me to raise my stake in her, but something within me finds this gamesmanship of hers perversely arousing. is it because most jkt girls always seem so nice and so unsophisticated, and it's good to meet one from time to time who can be as much of a hypocrite as your average european or american female? i was in for a disappointment when i enquired about lisa, the red-hair with the winning smile who liked to strut around maribaya mounted on the highest heels and wearing the shortest of skirt. she may even not have worn a skirt at all, instead stretching down her blouse down to pussy level. i heard two stories about why lisa had gone. one is that she got pregnant. the other is that she bolted because of debts. debts to whom? to maribaya apparently. girls have to spend money before they start earning some at maribaya and they have to pay for their meals so it is not unlikely for them to get into debt with their employer. i should mention wilia (we-lee-ah) for the benefit of blow-job lovers. personally i never ask for blow-jobs, in fact i never even mention them except to tell a girl to stop giving me one so that we can start doing the things that turn me on. but i'm sure connoisseurs would recognise the champion in wilia: she takes it all in, seals her lips airtight and bobs her head to maximum effect. back at the bar, wilia boosted my ego in unexpected fashion by telling me indo girls liked to have children from bules with a nose like mine. "to improve the race", she explained, using the word "keturunan" meaning "race" or "lineage". i knew i was an improver of girls' finances but an improver of races? maribaya had raised their price again by 50 thousand since my last stay. at 350 thousand, reckoning in a 50-thousand tip, that's now 400 thousand for a quickie. at this rate, they're soon going to price themselves out of the market. if only they would invest part of the money into improving their facilities! a girl told me rats were often spotted at the maribaya bar. a rat, she recalled, once barged in on her and a japanese client in one of the rooms, causing the japanese literally to "weep" ("nanggis = weep"). well, son of the rising sun, that was a change from your spick-an-span karaoke rooms wasn't it? we westerners are a filthy, scabietic lot you know, better not come too near. keep up the good work maribaya, nothing like the odd marauding rat to prevent the japs from spoiling our market! maribaya have been getting rid of many girls. shedding the less glamorous girls who aren't generating enough revenue is a logical step in the drive for profitability, albeit a heartless one, but there may be more to it than that. girls are required to pay 3 million rp up front before they can work. whenever girls are dismissed, vacancies are created for new girls who also have to bring 3 million each. so instead of telling the less good-looking girls they are wasting their time and money - there are too many girls for too few rooms in maribaya anyway - my suspicion is that the sacking and rehiring of girls has accelerated in a bid to cash in on downpayments. i even heard about one girl being sacked, rehired and then sacked again. money, however, is no problem for little ela. before resuming work at maribaya after visiting her family kampung in indramayu ela had dropped in at mercure hotel for an all-nighter with me and 3 other girls. she was carrying a bag of sandwiches bought on the journey, famished as she was after days on a kampung diet of steamed white rice. i learned ela rakes in a weekly average of 15 million rp net at maribaya. that's around 1500 us dollars. my informer said she pitied ela notwithstanding because unlike other girls who only work for themselves, or themselves + child, ela was toiling to support her old folks and a string of married male siblings. i asked if ela was telling her family she held some sort of well-paid secretarial job in jkt, a naive question as it turned out: "her family know. they put her there because they know that's where the money is". it appears someone from kampung even comes into town several times a week to collect the precious banknotes. so much for the family being the repository of moral values. the amazing thing is how unspoiled and good-spirited ela remains amid such sexploitation, a proof, if ever there was one, that there's such a thing as prostitution talent. ela also has a sense of humour of her own. when told her breasts looked distinctly bigger than they had a at new year she replied "that's because your blow them up each time we meet". at new year she had confided that were she ever to marry, she must do so with a husband who was keen on ... narkoba. the only cloud in ela's serene horizon had been the disappearance of her 5-million worth handset. she was now using one that had cost "only" 3 million. taking a peep at it while she was scrolling through her agenda in maribaya massage's half darkness, i spotted a dozen names or so, mostly of the male gender, only for letter "s". i bet the stephens, stevens, steves and other s-guys were once as smitten by ela as i was after first having her. ela is a roman pompeii priestess, a de facto heart-breaker, and the ultimate sex object. if she were run by one of the upmarket agencies specialising in real or faked spgs, actresses and sundry "non-pros", ela would easily fetch 10 or 20 million rp. casting her as a showbiz debutante would be easy: believe it or not the little sex-pot was actually a dangdut singer in her kampung before her good-for-nothing brothers handed her over to maribaya. as it is - and there's a lesson to be drawn from this - she is to be had at maribaya for 400 thousand rp, tip included. by the time i'm back in jkt, ela's skyrocketing popularity will probably have propelled her out of my league and she will be hard to replace in my all-night 4-girl specials at mercure. two skinny and small-titted maribaya girls i expect to be able to recruit again though are ayu (ah-you) and iis (ee-ee's). having worked for years as a karaoke girl at 1001, ayu is a further example of professional mobility between blok-m and kota (see stadium's lia in part one of my report). "work at 1001 was great fun", she recalled, "we were high every single day of the week". either the dope or the passage of time have taken their toll on ayu's looks for she no longer looked as if she would still be able to fulfil the beauty requirements for work at that rather upmarket place, 1001. nonetheless, she's a good sport, she gets horny as hell given the right music and other things, and i'll have her again. iis (with two "i's") has the name of an egyptian goddess, an enigmatic air of reservedness and nobility about her, and the saddest of black eyes. whenever i fly home, the misery of leaving the jkt playground is compounded by obsessive feelings for one of the girls i met during my stay. i've reached an age and state of experience where i know better than to nurture real feelings for those girls. i'm there on a sex-only business and i know it. but it's like **** juice, which always has some [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) mixed in it. there's a bit of love mixed in with the sex and i swallow it with the rest. at new year my heart bled for ela, the little roman priestess, this time it did so for iis, an egyptian divinity from sunda country.

(to be continued ...)

Gzono

05-22-05, 06:48

Great post mate.

I too bleed as the plane ascends away and I think of my poor darlings getting rammed by whoever has the money-sorry I could fit into that category too. I knwo more than anyone that these girls can pick up on emotion like they can spot a hard on and then feed it or milk it for whats its worth. XXL just keep on thinking after you have them 200 time syou will be bored and then the money may be a problem and the conversation.

It's a sad life and one very good looking professional friend of mine deals with it by staying well away-don't feed it buddy or it will bite you.

Sorry.

PS: Please dont ask me for the girls name I posted in photos

She's a dleicate girl and while I would love to feed my colleagues she is different.

Gonzo Two

05-22-05, 08:35

If a whole bunch of suited Japanese salarymen walked into D's or My Bar, looking for sake and whatever degenerate sex acts large groups of salarymen get up to, everyone there would take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) something shocking - so I'm not sure it's really 'racism' when some of the Kota joints discourage Bules, it's more market segmentation. There's ten thousand bars and brothels in Jakarta, at least one for every ethnic group in the world. So if you get a bad reaction in one place, don't take it personal, just walk on down the road a hundred meters or so, and there'll be a place where they welcome you with open arms.

Joesin

05-22-05, 10:37

Hi Guys,

Will be stationed here for a while with occassional trips back to Spore. Living in the west area of Jkt. been pretty boring so far, as my partner is a very decent married man.

Anyway, just here to say hi! Hope that will be able to meet some frens here! Oh ya, if there are any exciting yet discreet places, PLEASE let me know! Thank you all, and see you guys soon!

Smoothy

05-22-05, 10:40

XXL,

You seem to have quite a throng of girls there at Maribaya. I'm glad to see that none of the ones that you mentioned are any of my favorites. So my favorites must still be staying loyal to me. Ha!

Tamurlane26

05-22-05, 17:07

It is with wry amusement that I write my 100th report and it is on the subject of faithfulness.

The "airport" bule was none other than myself and it was a pleasure and a privilege to finally catch up with an esteemed contributor who has given all of us am sure many hours of vicarious pleasure. So please take a bow Monsieur Bulai69 !

Back to the point - as I digress as always - said lady swopped the number within minutes of meeting me and was on the phone again before I had even taken off !! Most amusingly she swore that she had no part of my dear friend - albeit then am wondering where the nice photos came from - and that she only went to the airport with him as a favour to a mutual friend.

So the long and the short of it is that the GFE experience is there for the time that you are there - but much the same that you would not profess undying love to her she is hardly likely to do the same. This is after all the oldest profession in the world.

As long as both parties are adult and enjoy themselves - for this is the name of the game - then long may it continue. And certainly let us all raise a glass to the game that we all enjoy and worry less and enjoy more

Regards to all

XXL

05-22-05, 17:25

It's a sad life and one very good looking professional friend of mine deals with it by staying well away-don't feed it buddy or it will bite you.

Sadly we have no alternative but to live by that principle because we live in Femdom, at least I do. But I'm sure in any muslim country the same principle could be turned around to our advantage: don't bite it girlie and it won't beat you up.

Tcvve

05-24-05, 03:07

Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. I realized the subject was somewhat touchy, but I needed honest responses. I will cut/paste and carry your responses to Jakarta.

I promise a report when I return.

Tom.

Sabbath

05-24-05, 15:23

Hello Eveybody,

This is my first posting, sorry that I start like this:

IIs, I know her since 1 year, called me and told me that a friend of her told her that somebody was writing about her on that website.., She is quite upset that you mentioned her name..

She rembers the "bule gila".., wich likes E, is about 45 years old and speaks fluently indonesian ...

I know this is a forum where you share informations, and I also had some good experiences in certain places, which I took out of this forum, but we ( including me) should have some respect.., I am sure some girls don't mind if we mention their names.., some girls do..., right jack?..:-)

IIs (with two "i's") has the name of an Egyptian Goddess, an enigmatic air of reservedness and nobility about her, and the saddest of black eyes. Whenever I fly home, the misery of leaving the JKT playground is compounded by obsessive feelings for one of the girls I met during my stay. I've reached an age and state of experience where I know better than to nurture real feelings for those girls. I'm there on a sex-only business and I know it. But it's like **** juice, which always has some [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) mixed in it. There's a bit of love mixed in with the sex and I swallow it with the rest. At New Year my heart bled for Ela, the little Roman priestess, this time it did so for IIs, an Egyptian Divinity from Sunda country.

(To be continued ...)[/QUOTE]

XXL

05-24-05, 18:48

She rembers the "bule gila".., wich likes E, is about 45 years old and speaks fluently indonesian ...

I know this is a forum where you share informations, and I also had some good experiences in certain places, which I took out of this forum, but we ( including me) should have some respect.., I am sure some girls don't mind if we mention their names.., some girls do..., right jack?..:-)

Touché!

There has been an understandable debate about pics and this has lead to some new rules. But names? I would be interested to know what other members have to say about this. Is is better to avoid naming girls? I mean for the girls' sake.

Of course, if a member who's read a posting of mine walks up to a girl with a story like "Did'ye know you're quite a public figure now? There's a chap out there who's been writing about you in a smutty website where bules post pics of the birds they've rogered. Interesting stuff, mind you, very interesting indeed!". Nudge and wink.

Then I gather a girl would be entitled to get upset, especially since she'll never be able to read for herself what was written. She would be easy prey for any misrepresenter.

Of course Sabbath, if Iis was your fiancé, my insincerest apologies.

xxl

Jaimito Cartero

05-24-05, 18:59

Smoothy

05-24-05, 19:03

If you're working as a prostitute, you should either get a stage name, or become a little more thick skinned about people talking about you. Posts like this, is why I never mention about any postings, pictures or such to any of the ladies. I always say a friend told me about them. I consider most of you guys as friends, so it's even true.I think most of us guys also have stage names. Anyone who has been around the scene even a short while realizes quite quickly that it is not in your best interest to use your real name with any of these tarts.

John Aldrich

05-24-05, 20:14

XXL, JC and all.

Lets not get sentimental about this. All the girls have fake names. In fact if you go to Vicky he will send you a girl by name Sarah. The same girl is sent to me by Rudy and her name is Michelle and then I pick her up in Shangrila and her name is Ayu. Now how do I know what her real name is. In case I tell you the contact of Vicky, I would obviously tell you pls pick up Sarah, she is good. The name is for the sake of a reference point.

Secondly, 99.99% of the time the girls are acting. Whether it is in the bed when you are fucking them with their moans, or when you are drunk and are telling them a sob story. They put up a great show. And Indo girls are too good in acting. In Maribaya itself, how many times have you not seen the girl moaning away when she is touching you in the privacy of the room, and to think of it you have not even touched her.

In case any girl has projected to you that she is upset about her name being put up in the website, then it is all bull shit. She is just putting up an act. Trying to tell you that she is some innocent angel and how she would like to be loyal to you etc. But in her heart of hearts, she would feel nice and will now be geared up for extra income coming in since she is getting free advertising.

Incidentally, Rhima, the stunning beauty at Maribaya, who left with Beela and all others, is now with Vicky and her name there is Endang. Now who knows what her real name is.

Do you folks know that Beela was written about in this website and after that was done and when she came to know about it, she stopped servicing anyone who was not a bule. It went to her head, that, she was in demand and guys will come only for her. In fact if you folks would have noticed, when anyone entered MAribaya bar all girls will run and crowd around the monger, but Beela wont care a damn and will be sitting and enjoying her smoke.ANd many a time she has refused guys who are not bule's.

I would suggest dont give a damn to what the girls say.Because they are telling it for the sake of positioning themselves with you for building their personal brand equity. And the name is not the real name.

And beleive me, many girls with whom I have slept around are in touch with me. Sometimes, they call me up and ask me whether I can give them some money for some urgent expense. And I make it a point to ask them for their BCA account number, telling them that I am not in Jakarta and will transfer the money. And when they sms me their bank account number with their name, I always smile for having found out their real name. Because the name they are known with and the name on the bank account number are completely different. And the last girl whom I remitted money for was IIs and that was yesterday. And IIs is not her real name. And to respect her privacy, I shall not give her real name here. But her name in Hotel Crowne Plaza, where she mongers sometimes is not IIs. Its Eli.

So no reputations are going to be in jeopardy in case names are put up. Instead they will flourish if you put up the names. Since none of her relatives or friends or her social circle know her by the name she has given herself.

Member #1005

05-24-05, 20:39

If a woman takes money for sucking dick and fucking guys I am surprised she would be concerned that people are talking about her. Let's be honest here -its not just us that would be talking.

However, there are some strange / foolish or just plain stupid guys out there who are obviously trying to ruin the scene for everyone else here.

I post information to share with my fellow mongers but last year I posted a report and some photos from a place I went to and then some idiot printed off one of the photos goes to this establishment and presents the photo and says “ I want this girl.”

Its is now for this reason that I change the names of all the girls' photos I post, I don’t think people should get to fixated about a particular girl anyway, you should go to an establishment, look around and if you see something you like, you go with her, if not you move on to the next place.

At the end of the day no woman should know what goes on here if we don’t tell them, because I have said this before that no girl, after finishing with a client is logging on to the net to search for her image or checking the WSGI for stories written about them.

Juniour

Mangga

05-25-05, 03:39

Dorman

05-25-05, 03:55

Oh for heaven's sake Sabbath, catch a grip the girl works in Marabaya! It's not like she's sneaking around occasionally scoring a few tricks on the quiet and XXL erected a bloody great poster of her saying "Look she's a *****!" at the Bunderan HI roundabout.

This girl stands around in a massage parlour in a lacey little dress barely covering her comely features rubbing old guys crotches saying "massage meester" for six hours a day. Now I have no problem with that, good luck to her, and further more I respect her privacy, but while she is working she uses a name, if she doesn't want people to know what her real name is then she should use a false one like Ella or something, why not all the other girls in Marabaya seem to be called Ella.

What XXL did was no more than a guy in a bar in Bangkok saying "There are great girls in the Pussycat Bar, I had a fantastic time with No. 45". In what way was Iis's privacy invaded, if he had said "The girl in the short red dress, about 25, 5'2", curly hair, a mole on her left cheek and 34C tits" would that have been any different, would the clearly oversensitive Iis been any less upset?

By the way, you say she called you to tell you that a friend had told her she was mentioned on "that website", hmmmm, are you sure you didn't get a little bit jealous and ring her to let her know yourself?

In fact I just spotted it "Sabbath" you're an "S", it was one of your names that XXL spotted on her handphone, haha, and she promised you you were the only one, she was going to give it all up for you if you'd just send a little more by Western Union. Ah for the love of God, Sabbath, you've been had, hey if XXl had scrolled further up he might have seen my name too, what was it she wanted the last time? Oh yes, money to buy medecine for her sick mother that was it, it just couldn't get any funnier.

Mangga

05-25-05, 04:18

As usual, John "The Man" Aldrich has it about right regarding posting girls' names. Professional or "stage" names (as JC puts it) are highly flexible things and we needn't be too coy about posting them.

Indeed, I consider it a favour to a good performer to recommend her to other mongers who read this forum. And a favour to all my brother mongers as well. I personally recommended a couple of top performing fucklets from the Berlian and know that the aformentioned JC followed up this lead and was impressed. I mentioned this to one of the fucklets in question and was rewarded with a little extra attention from her. So everyone's a winner...

Non-pros are, of course, a different category completely. I regularly fuck a couple of little darlings that I picked up through my own efforts on the internet. I know for certain that they are not pros (yeah yeah, I know what you're all thinking...), They are simply after a bit of fun, a touch of a life beyond the confines of family, kampung, office and shopping mall, and enjoy a good fuck on the side.

Our relationship is that we are friends and fuck-buddies. I'd never dream of posting their names in this forum.

But as usual there is the grey area in this wonderful little world: little fucklets who are not really pros (they usually have a job) but who are a bit more indiscriminate about who they fuck and a bit more open about their expectations for presents, outings, meals etc. I have posted a photo or two of girls like this, but I haven't ever mentioned their names.

When does an office-girl looking for fun become "ayam" and when do "ayam" become pros?? One of the great questions of life... A good topic for post-coital conversation.

Smoothy

05-25-05, 04:30

Do you folks know that Beela was written about in this website and after that was done and when she came to know about it, she stopped servicing anyone who was not a bule. It went to her head, that, she was in demand and guys will come only for her. In fact if you folks would have noticed, when anyone entered MAribaya bar all girls will run and crowd around the monger, but Beela wont care a damn and will be sitting and enjoying her smoke.ANd many a time she has refused guys who are not bule's.I've known Bila for years. What kind of man are you talking about when you say "not bule". Black guys?

Mashdogg

05-25-05, 10:01

Greetings fellow mongers -

This is my first post on this forum.

I've been an ardent follower of both the debates and discussions. I will soon be moving to Jakarta and look forward to be able to tell many a happy tale.

Sabbath

05-25-05, 11:55

Well, quite surprised about the echo, which I produced with my previous mail.

I don't want to blame anybody at all. IIs called me, and told me that story, thats it. I am not jealous, I am not sending her money, nor is she my fiancee. I am just a normal bule who lives here in Jakarta since a while.

I don't care if you continue to mention names. By the way, IIs is her real name. I don't want to mix up the WSG forum, I just wanted to share that story, thats it.

Sorry for any inconvenience.:-)

By the way, you say she called you to tell you that a friend had told her she was mentioned on "that website", hmmmm, are you sure you didn't get a little bit jealous and ring her to let her know yourself?

In fact I just spotted it "Sabbath" you're an "S", it was one of your names that XXL spotted on her handphone, haha, and she promised you you were the only one, she was going to give it all up for you if you'd just send a little more by Western Union. Ah for the love of God, Sabbath, you've been had, hey if XXl had scrolled further up he might have seen my name too, what was it she wanted the last time? Oh yes, money to buy medecine for her sick mother that was it, it just couldn't get any funnier.[/QUOTE]

XXL

05-25-05, 16:38

Hey XXL, interesting musings about girls, love, sex and blowjobs. But for god's sake, put some paragraphs in it! It's almost impossible to read without going crosseyed! Otherwise I enjoyed reading your contributions. Use the "Enter" key occasionally, please!
I introduced underlines and bolds to make the whole more readable. If I put too many paragraphs, the text may become too long to fit in a single page and that might not be desirable.

What we would need is a "text size" functionality in the forum toolbar. Using the text size button of IE doesn't work, the font size of the postings stays the same.

Maybe a proposal to that effect should be put to the webmaster. Of course, If you're reading this at the office, the smaller the better, although anyone will see "The WorlSexGuide" in big lettering in the top left corner of your screen.

John Aldrich

05-25-05, 17:13

Smoothy

I am a pretty regular at maribaya. Sometimes I go there and just have a drink and not even fuck anyone there. In fact quite a few times after the drink, I have taken some of the girls with me to quite a few discos and night joints and have had some great fun. And one sms they land up in any place I want. Whether it is Bila or Rhima or Siska or Marie, Yeni or IIs or Ika or Leah or Shanthi. But now Bila has left town and is getting settled in life in Purwakarta. And all thought her name is bila. But she has a pretty big name and, no name, in part, or full, even indicates Bila.And almost all thought she was from Semarang, because she claimed so. Not that she lied. But she was protecting her identity. And when I saw her in Purwakarta a couple of weeks back, she almost walked through me till I called her by her real name, when she stopped and had a coffee with me. Having quit the place and now settling down in life, she was a new identity and a new life.

I have seen her turning down middle eastern guys, old japs and I remember her going only with a bule despite guys trying to woo her. And one day when she turned down this pakistani, I asked her and she said," No Pak, no bule, no fuck."

MAnnga

In fact quite a few times JAD has given me contacts of girls who just wanna have fun for the fun of it. And I have never ever posted it on this board about them. That's bcoz, not only JAD has cautioned me abt it but also because they are not even semi pro's. But just some adventurous girls who want to experiment.And one day I pm'd JAD about one of the girls he had introduced to me. I requested him for the number since I had misplaced her number and also had changed my HP. And JAD told me that she has not got in touch with him for quite sometime and he had lost the digital diary. One day I got the number from one of my old diaries. I called her. She cut the line. And I got the sms that she has married an ozie and pls let me lead my life. I respected her privacy. And the best part of it is this ozie has been a friend of mine and this girl was shocked to see me in the club chatting up with her husband. "But I did not know her"!! And was formally introduced. And he gave me a name which was totally different from what I had known her as. Her real name. And I was never surprised. But I was meeting her for the first time as Mrs. xyz. And her small adventurous rendezvous was left behind with her name in the hotel room. And she was back to her real self now. So thats it.

As you rightly pointed out, we need to protect these kind of girls. And even then she had used her fake name to me. Nothing wrong at all.

But pro girls in all fuck joints use fake names only. No 2 ways about it.

I've known Bila for years. What kind of man are you talking about when you say "not bule". Black guys?

Smoothy

05-25-05, 17:56

I do the same. I like to stop into Maribaya and chat up the girls, have a beer or two and take off. I do partake at times, but not often anymore. I have been there so many times, I just feel comfortable there. I'll call one of the girls for delivery on occasion. I haven't "been with" Bila in over 2 years. But I always talked to her when I visited (as well as many of the girls). Bila has the 3rd best breasts I've seen at Maribaya (they are nice). I wish Bila well, she is a nice girl. Although I have no idea where Purwakarta even is.

KL Guy

05-26-05, 12:03

I was in Jakarta from 18th till 25th of May & thanks to a member of this thread for his wonderful contact! Will write a full FR but no pictures as this is my 1st trila trip! You can bet that I'll be back!

Thanks to you know who you are! You're great!

Mashdogg

05-26-05, 16:08

Hey guys -

Been to Stadium a couple of times, and managed to score with freelancers.

Are there any other places that are like Stadium in picking upi free lancers?

XXL

05-26-05, 17:40

Sabbath,

I don't buy the story that Iis, if she really came to know of the WSGforum, did so of her own accord. Like most JKT girls, she is computer illiterate. She doesn't even have an e-mail. And she can barely utter three words of English.

But never mind that, I'm sure you meant no harm and I won't go after you for blowing my DEA cover. They were a lousy, stingy lot and I'm glad they fired me.

However, you should learn to quote properly when replying to a post on the forum because you have twice included whole chunks of someone else's contribution in your own message. You should start your own text after "[/QUOTE]", not before.

Sabbath

05-26-05, 21:15

XXL,

I never said she did the research by her own. She was told by someone else.

I cannot say more about it.., You can be sure I post my own text into my postings. Well, what ever. I am sorry my posting made such a big wave. Since I am also one of the guys who reads the forum quite regularly and take some usefull tips out of it.

Sorry again to all of you.

Sabbath,

I don't buy the story that Iis, if she really came to know of the WSGforum, did so of her own accord. Like most JKT girls, she is computer illiterate. She doesn't even have an e-mail. And she can barely utter three words of English.

But never mind that, I'm sure you meant no harm and I won't go after you for blowing my DEA cover. They were a lousy, stingy lot and I'm glad they fired me.

However, you should learn to quote properly when replying to a post on the forum because you have twice included whole chunks of someone else's contribution in your own message. You should start your own text after "", not before.[/QUOTE]

KL Guy

05-26-05, 22:09

I couldn't agree with you more Bulai69. My policy is to come,enjoy & sayonara baby! Hehehehehe no matter what people say about Jakarta, i've been to Thailand, Singapore,Phillipines,China, Japan, Korea, Malaysia but in my personal opinion Jakarta has the best value for money in terms of price & service amongst all. I repeat this is a personal opinion.

Gzono - forget this guilt stuff! If anybody should feel guilty it's her: and she won't. I made the point in a slightly different context some time ago that if you have an Indonesian girl friend and you are with her 23.5 hours a day she will be fucking someone else in the other half hour. If you give them loads of money, they fuck someone else for fun; if you don't give them enough they fuck someone for money.

Let me tell you about the "airport girl" I posted yesterday. When I was at the airport with her on my outward trip she absolutely swore to me she would be faithful, she loved me etc etc. (Unknown to her) I had arranged to meet another regular contributor to the forum at the airport as I was leaving - as soon as I went to check-in, he was swapping numbers and arranging to meet her! Then the next day a friend of mine put her in touch with another guy and that day he had her back to his hotel! Do you think she feels guilty?

I could write for the rest of the night about girls I know in JKT who have bule "boyfriends" and screw behind their backs: anybody who thinks their "girlfriend" is loyal to them is, I'll be diplomatic, somewhat naive.

Bulai69

05-26-05, 22:25

Hi XXL, whilst I agree with your main point, no offence, but I'm not so sure you are right when you say " Like most JKT girls, she is computer illiterate."

A large proportion of the girls I know are very much into "chatting", emailing and also the various dating sites of which there is a large number (Indonesian and international). If ever you go into a warnet and sit at a terminal a girl has been at, just have a look at "history" - 9 times out of 10 she will have been on a dating site. Admittedly I'm not talking about girls from MP's etc because most of my "relationships" are with girls I meet through contacts or clubs, malls etc.

Mangga

05-27-05, 03:22

John Aldrich,

You are absolutely right that there are lots of girlies out there who are just after a bit of fun and an enjoyable fuck. In fact I'm wooing one right now via sms.

It's another world completely from the world of MPs and pick-up joints. Potentially more complicated, it needs to be approached with caution and discretion, but the rewards are potentially so much greater because you are fucking with a girlie who you know wants to fuck you for yourself and not your money. And you're also absolutely right that you need to respect their privacy. For them, a bule is a way to anonymity, and we should play the game their way.

It's all part of the wonderful big smorgasbord called Jakarta...

Member #2027

05-27-05, 03:28

Thanks to all for the continued information sharing and insight.

Great photos. I am not familiar with Bintang Mawar. Have done a search and come up empty. Can I get some help with the location of Bintang Mawar? Any further insight or specifics would be appreciated.

Knight 1001

05-27-05, 09:10

Going north on Hayam Wuruk turn right on Mangga besar. walk on the left side of the street till you see a "Star" hotel on your right (on the other side of Mangga besar) and a lighted vertical sign in front of you saying "tailor Wong Heng".
Immediately before the latter sign, on your left, there is a lane where you turn left and the place you're after is also n the left, after the club named Madonna (I believe it's a karaoke: I went in and out today and wasn't impressed, though I saw a petite cutie there...yammy, but she shied away) .
Good luck

XXL

05-27-05, 16:14

I'd once thought the Paripurna massage that Menteng had mentioned to me some time back must have vanished in one of the many building sites along Hayam Wuruk. But it is still there, on the side where traffic flows towards Monas/Blok M (Transjakarta stop: Sawah Besar), roughly opposite the Gajah Mada shopping mall. Two nearby landmarks are the "Bank Metro Ekpres" and "Restorant Raja Soto". Leave the billiard room to your right and walk up the stairs. All the upper floors of what was once the "Grand Hotel Paripurna" are now occupied by prostitutes and their support staff. At 120 thousand Rp, Paripurna was my cheapest fuck ever in JKT. The girls are correspondingly second choice compared to more expensive places but there are many to choose from and if you don't mind the dinginess, it's worth a visit. What I disliked most was the many male pimps, bodyguards, touts & Co thronging the stairs and corridors but they were not too pushy.

No XXL stay in JKT would be complete without a stop at Sierra (Mangga Besar VII, opposite Bintang Mawar). A couple of years ago, I'd let out to the Sierra doorman that Germany was where I lived, whereupon he'd proudly announced that he himself had been a Siemens employee, a fact about as likely as me having gone to bed with Nicole Kidman. Since then each time I show up at Sierra I get a warm-hearted welcome the tune of "Hullo, I'm from Siemens!".

Iin (double "i", "ee-in") was my pick at Sierra this time. Iin was about my tiniest fucklet ever. Two things set her apart beside her 37 kilograms: the oversized nipples on the small tits, and her baritone voice. Emanating from such a flimsy frame, the latter seemed to violate the laws of physics while lending some credence to the age she gave me (22).

As I alternated missionary and doggy on Iin, she clung to me and didn't look or sound as if she wanted it ever to stop. I couldn't pinpoint a climax though, so she was perhaps one of those girls who get aroused no end during intercourse but never reach orgasm. Or she might have got there had the Sierra bed not forced me to give up from sheer exhaustion. I might give Sierra a miss in the future because of the beds. It's not so much the jutting springs as the multi-layered bed-sheeting that seems designed to slip and give way at the slightest motion.

Finally, if you are into ass-rimming, Titi ("tee-tee") in Berlian is your girl. She insisted on it herself before we'd even started so she'll certainly be delighted to do it to you if asked.

(The end)

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Bulai,

I should have written "my JKT girls are computer illiterate". They really are, I only know one who has an e-mail and she never uses it. When you're a masseuse/prostitute you're only interested in handsets, not in e-mails, Yahoo Messengers or the English language. Otherwise you're right about girls' keenness to chat. It is a worldwide phenomenon. In Africa (e.g. the Cameroons) girls even switch on the webcam in cybercafés even if you don't have one yourself. Chatting with strangers on the WWW is a girl's way of giving in to the sexual instinct while men will spend their time downloading dirty pics.

Mighty Spearsman

05-27-05, 20:19

I like to stop into Maribaya and chat up the girls...Bila has the 3rd best breasts I've seen at Maribaya (they are nice).
So please enlighten us - who has the 2nd best and 1st best breasts you've seen?

Smoothy

05-28-05, 05:30

So please enlighten us - who has the 2nd best and 1st best breasts you've seen?Neither of them still work there. Bila and Lucy have been the best 2 (in that department) for at least a couple of years now. A girl named Erni was the best I've seen there, but she quit a few years ago. I don't even remember the name of the other girl. I was only with her once, but she had very nice breasts indeed.

Lucifer96

05-29-05, 01:39

Just a quick report on Berlian at Hayam Muruk 114 (there's another clean Berlian at Lokasari shopping centre, so be aware of whee you go).

Arrived at Berlian on Sunday around 4:30 pm with a few friends. Not many girls were there (probaly around 20). Took one gal called Hana. Claims to be 22 and that she had been there for about 4 months. Went up to the shack or "kamar" as they call it and the place looked simple. Was offered a drink and asked what I wanted. I opted for the soapy body massage. Proceeded for a quick shower and asked to lie face down on the bed. This was my first time there, so was wondering how to make love on a raised bed with soap all over. Finally knew the trick which follows in the next few lines.

So the gal put the soapy water on my body and began to rub me all over with her huge breasts. It was easily a size 36+ and it was such a good feeling already. She worked me all ovr and then asked me to raise my buttocks so that she could slide her pussy under me. Then she "goyang gerudi" her pussy against my cock which was already stiff by this time. No penetration yet but it was super exciting. I think she was also super excited already y my stiff cock. She asked me to turn over and then rub her breasts against my body all over again. I was still thinking maybe we will fuck in the wet when she said it was time to make love. She asked me to take a shower while she cleaned the wet soapy bed efficiently with the towel. It was dry when I lay on it again and then only the fucking session started. Enough to say that she mentioned "mantap" when we were fucking (I think it means incredible, very good?) and I could feel her orgasms. She did say that this is one of th rare cases where she "surrendered" .. not a bad feeling and it really made my day.

Damage was Rp 220K with tip of Rp 50K to her and Rp 10K to the mamasan at the counter.

John Aldrich

05-29-05, 16:42

Last nite I was in club 27. In fact this was my second visit after about 2 months. And the Manager Nelda greeted me by my name as I came out of the lift. She herself is a pretty sexy b i t c h.Pretty tall for an Indonesian at about 170 cms and with that long legs, looks inviting. I was taken aback when she recognised me. The last time I was there was a Monday night and there were hardly anyone there. She had come to my table and introduced herself to me. I had forgotten her. Last nite I landed there around 10 45. She escorted me to the sofa straight in the front. The top less dance started at 11 lasted for about 15 minutes. three girls trying to mock up a sex act. But then the girls were pretty good looking though the tits were small. Had a couple of Bacardi cokes. And the bill was just @ Rp 68,000 for 2 bacardi cokes. Pretty cheap for Jakarta standards. I then headed to BATS at Shangrila and there was this girl Winda who approached me. She quoted Rp.1 million. I said 300K and she made faces and walked. I then moved from there to Tigah Puluh. Around 12 45 I saw Winda there and she came back to me smiling and said mister you want discount. I said how much and she quotes 600. I said 400 take it or leave it and I was off with her to my favourite motel in Gatot Subroto. Fantastic Blow job with CIM and a great fuck. I gave her 500K. Worth it. She gave me her HP no. A neat clean shaven pussy.

John Aldrich

05-29-05, 16:54

This evening I was in Club Rasuna behind Pasar Festival. I saw someone come in and pat me on the back. I turned and looked and it was my friend Jim ( Not his real name) a US expat working for an oil and gas company. And guess who was with her, the sexy and ever green Bila. I could not beleive my eyes. I invited them over for a drink and they settled down in my table. Jim is an old friend of mine, an expat from the US. Has had 3 pretty bad marriages with harrowing times in divorce. At 56 he still needs a companion and he always kept telling me that he beleives that Indonesian girls make good wives.

When Bila met me in Purwakarta, she had told me that she plans to settle down in life. When I asked her whether it was a Bule, she said no it would be an Indonesian from the village. And I reminded her that when Jim told me that Bila had moved in with him and they propose to get married in about a years time. And she says, " My Jim is an Indonesian Pak". with a twinkle in her eye and a mischeivious smile. For the first time I saw her in a long white gown and she indeed looked gorgeous. Bila has now officially moved into Jim's apartment in the Kuningan area. I guess this revelation is good enough. Let me not name the apartment now, since let them have their privacy.

Anyway good for both of them. Hope they do settle down in life. Though Jim is good enough to be her dad.

I then rushed to Maribaya to have my shag there. Picked up Angel, the Sunda girl from Bandung. A real stunner though with moderate tits. At 20 she gives a pretty decent BBBJ and a neat fuck with the usual fake moans.

Someone here had mentioned that the price had increased to 350K in Maribaya. Was it you XXL, mate, you've been take for a ride in case you have paid 350K. Its still 300K. I paid Angel the 300K and tipped her the usual 100K and went to the bar. Spent some time with Siska and Leah and they were mentioning that there are now only 25 girls and very few customers. The way its going in there I guess they may revamp the functioning of Maribaya. But I guess the fuck joint will exist with some new methodology. Lets see how it goes.

Bulai69

05-29-05, 21:59

John A - your point is well made about BATS: I know we've said it before but it's amazing how many stupid bules must be paying the "going rate" of 100USD/1 juta in there. As regulars know, the same girl can be picked up elsewhere for half that - or less as the night goes on and she gravitates back to Jaksa from where she probably came. Of course if you see a real stunner in there it's tempting and I've even been conned into paying over the odds myself - but never that much. I hope newcomers take note or they will just contribute to massive price inflation. Just to put it in proportion, for those who don't know, 100 USD is an decent monthly salary for say a clerk working in a decent office job - and more than a lot of girls get working in cafe (12 hours a day, 6 days a week, no holidays for a year)

Monsoon

05-30-05, 02:01

I returned again early May so pardon the late posting witrh advise from members here to visit BATS. This time I took the evening flight from KL to Jakarta. The Hotel took longer than usual because I had arrived on a weekday. The heavy vehicles are allowed come into the city in the evening causing congestion.

I stayed at the ShangriLa Hotel where BATS is located. The usual security checks at Jakarta Hotel and was quickly checked in.

Had dinner at the Japanese restaurant downstairs, coincidentally next to BATs. The waitress from the Japanese restaurant encouraged me to visit BATs, I went in. Wow! this is much better than the Tavern. Live band, and a spiral straicase towards the bar. Plenty of women. That means, plenty of men too. Got my drink and scouted the area. There is a restaurant in the back, something to consider for the next day.

Saw a gal worth the conquest. Fair complexioned, about 5'2" tall, nice pouty lips (think Angelina Jolie), wearing a black tank top with A size tits and white slacks. The slacks showed off her tight, small and firm butt nicely. She is about 23 years old and has that sultry, confident and spoilt brat attitude. Turned on scout mode. She was positioned across the bar, closer to the restaurant while I was closer to the band. Make sure she is not accompanied. I observed other men were also trying to get in on the action.

Go the indirect route. Noticed the girls from around her were making visual contact with me. Smiles, flirtatious glances. Finally one waved me over to her corner. Took my drink and walked over. Shook hands and immdiately "Angelina Jolie" felt the competition going with her gal friends. Let it go on for a while and she came forward to ask me where I was from. After some chit-chat it was obvious she needs to be tamed. Placed my palm on her butt and it was firm, round and petite (think honeydew instead of watermelon).

She was hooked. Got into conversation she seemed pleasant and confirmed my instinct about taming this one. She asked where I stayed and agreed to go with me for the night.

She was very discrete about leaving the pub together. She suggested to meet on at the floor where I stayed. As I left the pub, she went to get her stuff and she appeared on the same lift later.

We have the whole night so we took things slowly. She was playful undressing her slacks. Turned and giggled as she slowly lowered them to display a G-string and butt cheecks. She knows her assets.

It would be a long night. Let her demonstrate the BBBJ. It was ok. She was somewhat apologetic about her A size tits. I didn't mind. She has a nice body. We kissed and then she resumed the BBBJ. Cap on and she was on top. It was ride since I would have preferred a cowgirl.

When she laid down I saw her neatly trimmed pubic hair. I was glistening and she knew I was tempted to give it a lick. Changed my mind and lowered myself on top of her. She was really wet and I bonked her with legs down, apart, on top. She squirmed tighthened her grip, sorta lifted her hips and heaved a few times and suddenly relaxed. This is a girl who's a brat. Knows what she wants, comes when she wants. It's my turn.

With a nice ass, the finale had to be doggy. Turned her around, banged her from behind and admired the sweet cheeks. Grabbed her butt for balance and raced for the finish line!

She tells me that she recently visited Singapore and she shows me recorded clip (phone recorded) of Sentosa with a caucasion chap on the vacation. Wow international escort!

We are awaken by a 5 am. She signals me to keep quiet. Can you believe that? She is in my room and I am hushed by her. It's a call from one of her regulars from Australia, making an advanced booking and asking her if she wanted some gift of sorts. I hushed up but she would have to pay for this.

She hangs up the phone. I grab that ass and to make a long story short we both came again. Paid her 1 million IDR (USD100) and she was happy. Asked for the hotel snacks to take along that I happily agreed but refused giving her the morning paper. It was worth watching her pout. She needs a man who can say "No" to her.

All in all I would see her again in my next trip.

Be good,

Monsoon

Buc Punter

05-30-05, 03:27

Bats is definitely a place where the girls try to get the big money. They normally wont go for less than 500K. And they can be found later for less money. But as you say, if you see a stunner, she most likely will not be around later for less money. They get snatched up. You have to make the decision for yourself. Do you want to pay more for the extra beauty or not? I've done so many times. Sometimes it's a good move, sometimes not. But look at it this way, at least you aren't paying the ridiculous rates they charge at Hartonos. I never have understood why people go there.

Smoothy

05-31-05, 00:47

Monsoon, It sounds like you had a great experience. But next time, you may want to negotiate down to at least 500k. A fair price in Jakarta is 350k to be honest. I've seen people posting here that say they give 200k at times. But you won't be finding a girl willing to accept that at BATS. I prefer a girl who can speak at least some english. The girls willing to take 200k normally are "kampungan" (village girls) and won't be able to speak a word of english. I'd rather pay the extra 150k and get a girl I can enjoy my time with in areas other than just sex. But a million is going overboard and is at least double the market.

I did witness one other occasion when a guy paid a girl a million. I was with a girl in BATS and had bought her a few drinks already. I was ready to take her home for 400k when some guy sent over an older girl to "act" like her friend. But she was really offering my girl 1 million to go with the other guy. (it was a slow night at BATS and the girl I was with stood out like a sore thumb.) Amazingly, I was dumped right there and then. The funniest thing was that about 2 hours after she left me that night, she called me saying she was sorry and wanted to meet me. It turned out that the other guy had offered her a million for just a short time. I've seen that girl many times after that and she apologizes and begs me to take her, but I never will. I also made sure to let all my friends know who she is and what she did so they avoid her as well.

Dorman

05-31-05, 05:12

With the greatest of respect Monsoon you are absolutely correct; that girl does need a man who knows how to say "No" and it should be right after she asks "Can I have $100?".

Look it's no problem, you've got the money and don't mind spending it, I'm not even going to say that people like you are spoiling the place for the rest of us coz we all know about the crazy money the BATS girls ask for but as you are coming back here maybe you want to get a more realistic picture of prices. Last time I hit BATS I took home two little crackers, 20 and 23 years old, they stayed all night, we were at it from every angle and rest assured the BBBJs were not mediochre. Next morning I handed over 300000 IDR each ($30) and bought them a MacDonalds for breakfast. All involved were very happy, and I still get SMS's from one of them, oh and I sure as heck wasn't interrupted by some Aussie clown phoning to see what presents he should buy - sheesh some guys really shouldn't be let out on their own!

Possessed Seoul

05-31-05, 14:13

Guys,

While I concur on the subject of overpayment, the market will only bare the kind of prices that most punters can afford. Let the guys who want pay a mill, suckers are born every minute. Those of you with enough nouse can get it for the right price as the girls soon learn that every bule is not a walking atm.

Possessed Seoul

05-31-05, 17:07

I posted this for some guys on another forum (not entirely mongering related) after my last trip in early May. Somehow I forgot to post it, but dug it up tonight. I hope some of you get to check the place out as I feel its a diamond in the rough. Excuse the basic instructions and explanations of some bits of Indo culture as I was the resident Indophile on the other board and needed to do some explaining re certain things. I'll post it in my thread anyhow. I don't monger much anymore, winding down since I am getting hitched, but I hope it helps some of the more bored and jaded amongst you.

As I was spending so much time with the missus and sorting out wedding formalities, I didn't have much time to check the P4P scene this time around. However, I did manage to give her the slip one night after I took her and her mum to dinner in one of Kemang's better chinese restaurants.

My hotel for the week is called Hotel Kaiser, its located on Jalan Duren Tiga, close to Pancoran and not far from most of the action in South Jakarta. There are two nightlife establishments in the basement, the Millenium disco and the Zeus Karaoke bar. I chose the latter having realized years ago that 150 bpm techno sucks unless you are on pills. Still, I popped my head in and there were a few 'ayam' who got really excited at seeing a bule stroll in.

Zeus was having its bi-weekly open mike Dangdut night. For those of you not in the know, Dangdut is an indigenous form of Indonesian pop, heavily influenced by Arab and Hindi contempory music. Its almost always sung by females, often scantily clad and has been responsible for the dance craze known as 'ngebor'. Ngebor is a sexy, ass shaking movement which sends most red-blooded males into palpatations, me included. Anyhow, I was just kicking back with a few bintangs, enjoying the music and the dancing, and chatting with some Indo/Chinese business men. They thought it was neat to speak to a Bahasa speaking Bule, so I was invited over to join them. When the girls finished their songs, they would come and sit with us and the business guys let me know that it was eminently possible to hire one of these sirens. Indeed, whilst having breakfast in the hotel the next morning, I spied a few at the tables with some of my comrades from the night before. Prices were a bit steep, but as with anything in Indo, the initial offer is just a ruse, bargain hard and I would say IDR 300 000 would be achievable. I spent the rest of the night chatting up a sexy little Sundanese store girl who just came for the music and to supplament her wages. She said she would do anything for 400 000 for the night, but I declined as I am too well known to the hotel staff there and if gossiping were an olympic sport, they would clear gold, silver and bronze every time. BTW, the store girl is called Ika and works on level 12 of the Sarinah department store, so check her out if you are doing some shopping there.

All in all, the scene in Jkt is rocking and in my opinion, leaves Thailand for dead. The girls are less mercenary and so sweet and loving and don't treat sex with a punter like a business transaction. There may be more leg work involved, but that can be half the fun and if you know a little of the lingo, you will be beating off the ceweks with a shitty stick.

Bulai69

05-31-05, 21:01

The "proof" of what is an acceptable payment is what Dorman mentioned in passing: the girl's pre-disposition to sms/call you again after the "event". No matter what you pay they will more often than not, have a go at getting a bit more: you all heard it! - sick relative, their school fees, their younger sister's school fees, their 3 juta a month rent (usually 50% of 500k) etc etc. But at the moment 300k is definitely quite an acceptable payment for a really excellent girl all night.

By "acceptable" I mean from a moral (dare I say) as well as market rate stand point. As a said before, 300k is weeks wages for a girl in pretty good job. If you pay that, the vast majority of girls will want you back - believe me. If you look back at my postings, that is the average, with a minimum of 200k and max around 600k. Further more, there is little, if any, correlation between cost and quality.

Bulai69

05-31-05, 21:11

John A - next time you are cruising round PS have a look at the silver jewellery stall on ground level which is underneath the escalator near to Bulgari. On my the last morning of my last trip I was in PS and there was an excellent girl on that stall. We exchanged eye contact for an instant but enough to tell me she was willing. It was by no means obvious but you know how you can read the sign! I couldn't do anything as the "girlfriend" I was with knows me too well. Maybe you can check that girl out before my next before my next trip! Also have you tried C&P Perfumery? Several hot girls in there - also worth noting that perfume in there is considerably cheaper than elsewhere in PS and the same price, often less, than duty free. I always get some there for my "nice" girlfriends, it saves buggering about in duty free. (Remove the label of course as they won't value it the same if they think it's not bought out of the country)

Gzono

06-01-05, 01:47

Hey guys,some perspective here on prices for our meat and sausages.

Discussion on exactly how much to pay these poor girls who suffer 100kg pounding away 4 times their age and the risk of disease etc etc and we are going on and on about 250 maybe 300 if excellent and how much for taxi...i have heard oila nd gas boys argue about this all night and these guys are on silly money

I only object when the girl is outright lying and lays the line without blinking and then I pay her and smack on the bum and say all the best good luck

These girls are used car salesman-it's their living they can and should go for what they can just like we go for what we can get away with

Sometimes I think this whole business is sick.

Then again its a power game and i am fortunate enough to be in the position to enjoy my wealthy white man status-for a time

Enjoy boys and lighten up-a few bucks either way means nothing to us and may eman a lot to her

Tamurlane26

06-01-05, 02:36

The issue of what is value for money and what is and what is not a high price to pay is all relative and of course will always be performance related. In the early morning with a sated smile on the face a sweet request for a "little extra" or "taxi fare" will always be well received. A lousy lay and an aggressive demand for more money is less likely to be well received.

At the end of the day one wonders if they consider the business they are in and the opportunities that it presents.

A recent case in point was Dede - a lithesome number - with long legs and although a little on top a jealous attitude that could either of been taken in two ways - one she was going to transform her anger into passion in the sack or she was one "twisted sister".

Well sad to say the night in the sack was a major disappointment - although it was a marvel to see those long legs unwrapped - but the twisting and turning and dont do this and dont do that was irritating to say the least. The next morning having to race for a meeting in Sudirman she followed me in the taxi where i quickly gave her all the cash that I had leaving a short amount for the next taxi fare onwards. Five minutes later I received the sms of the moment - "you motherf&&&ker", f88k you" etc all because she expected more than 1 million albeit that this was her estimation of her worth and not mine and as Bulai points out it was rent time of the month.

So a nice sweet thing turned into a snarling Harpy - here the story would end but for the fact that she is also known to a mutual friend of mine and I related the story to him about a week later - much to his amusement he passed the phone to a Malaysian friend of his who recounted the same tale of woe in the sack - needless to say this in itself was reassuring as perhaps had feared that I was losing my touch after such a long silence on WSG !!

In his case she had taken 500k from him and demanded he return the next day to give the next 500k. Being a polite gentleman he had thought about this and was willing to honour the agreement on consideration of another night with her. However my short discussion with me changed the tack much to the delight of my mutual friend who is not enamoured of this lady's attitude and so he moved on to fresher pastures.

At the end of the day if you are a happy man and you feel it was worth the money then enjoy - there are those who are successful on the lower amounts because of their pleasant manner and attitude to our lady friends in jakarta - this is what brings repeated success. A 300K and a few sms and you will find your way back to her many times until you are bored. If on the other hand you want to pay 1mill and never see her again then so be it.

This is the joy of the free market and long may it continue - the challenge as Bulai aptly puts it is to find the one to have fun from the myriad of beauties around. Its no different to any place in the world - a smile some polite discussions and away you go - the difference is that here it is more pleasant and perhaps more pleasing also on the pocket !!

For myself this week Manado and Goronatalo beckon along with a short stay in Jakarta so watch this space and enjoy the rest of the week one and all

KL Guy

06-01-05, 11:12

18th May 2005

Arrived in Jakarta Airport around 9pm local time due to 2 hour delays and had to wait for pre arranged transport. Arrived in Sahid Jaya Hotel around 10pm and immediately called Mr. A, a friend of one our seniors and he immediately went and looked for a suitable companion for me for the nite and Ms TT arrived around midnight.

We proceeded to some friendly chit chat to allow her to feel comfortable with me & amazingly she was very warm & receptive immediately. As I was tired I decided to get things on the move ASAP! I took a bath & asked her if she would like to join me but she declined saying that it is bad for her bones to bathe at nite.

After the bath, I was pleasantly surprised to see her already in bed with the lights dimmed and dressed only in a towel. Man was I ready for my Jakarta welcome! We started with the preliminary foreplay as I love to make a woman wet & all ready for my entry. She too came up onto me & gave me a very nice & warm bbbj and I was in heaven but before I could say or do anything she had already straddled me and I was taken aback as I had my condom ready. Anyway since it had already happened, what the heck I decided to enjoy myself instead of worrying my nuts off. Man she was so wet and being inside this girl was truly a nice experience and we both changed several positions and ending it all up with my fav ending position the doggy!

We slept till morning & we had breakfast in the lobby restaurant & she even asked me if I wanted her to stay or go back but since my business associates were coming to meet me at lunch I told her to return and paid her 300K as advised by Mr. A. Now this lady did not ask for any specific price and was quite happy to receive the 300K and in fact she left me her number saying that she would like to meet up with me again but being typically me I would prefer not to as things may get sticky and not worth it when you’re not in home ground.

19th May till 22nd May lunch time

Busy with my work schedule

22nd May

Checked out of Sahid Jaya & checked in into Batavia Apartment around 3pm and waited for my fellow ‘cheonging’ buddies to arrive from KL via AirAisa. Those jokers arrived 5pm and I immediately called Mr. A to arrange the ladies this time for all 3 jokers! My girl came 1st as I had wanted a younger & sweeter girl and when she heard that there were 2 more friends coming she called her buddies. Now her 2 friends turned up later but unfortunately none of them were able to meet up to ‘Fisherman’s’ expectation but 1 of them meet up to ‘Gorillaz’ expectation i.e. young, cute & bosomy. We went to a very nice Italian restaurant where we ended up seated next to a TV actress but please don’t ask me who she was coz I really don’t know! We then went to Mulia Hotel lounge where it was also a pick up joint but being a Sunday nite it was relatively quiet. Mr. A & his angels were partying all nite long & entertained us to a nice sexy dance show time for the 3 of us! Since me & ‘Gorillaz’ was horny, we decided to return home to Batavia and had a normal session as this girl was not as good as the 1st nite but she was young but to eager to go home & that spoiled my mood. She asked for 300K after just being with me for 2 hours in bed and I said the max I would pay is 200K and not a rupiah more. She pouted but I didn’t want to spoil the market for all of us bules! I sent an SMS to my buddy A and told him to get me another girl the next day and went to bed like a baby. BTW I believe this girl stole my RM300 kept in my wallet, so be careful guys!

23rd May

Woke up and was ready for another sexciting day. Mr. A came to our place @ 8pm with the ladies and I was biting my hand as the girl he had choose for ‘Fisherman’ was wearing a sexy black tight blouse and was braless. She was tall and introduced herself as ‘Dede’ (yes the same Dede). My girl who is a BATS regular came over around the same time and we all proceeded to BATS as it was apparently a happening place! Now I was having a good time with my girl but things were not moving along well with ‘Fisherman’ as there were many beautiful babes at BATS and his eyes just couldn’t stop wandering and he is a fairly good looking & macho looking kinda of guy so there were a few nice looking babes on the lookout to secure him but there was this really delicious babe eyeing him and before you knew it they were gone apparently grinding themselves on the dance floor & frenching each other. I was angry as I did not like the fact that he had left Dede alone but I guess it was all meant to be. I decided we should leave before things get worse. Again it was a normal session of love making and she left around 6am in the morning and again she expected 500K and I told her that if she wanted to remain as friends just to accept the 300K I am giving to her. She took it without any fuss.

Now here the story of ‘Fisherman’ & Dede

Upon arriving at the apartment & after much talk & apologies my friend decided to start his Jakarta welcome session with anticipation, but as she was about to straddle him, a rather ‘fishy’ & nauseating smell emanated from her pussy and luckily the joker decided to wear some rubber before venturing in. According to him the smell was so bad he had to air the room twice and based on his comments I believe she has Candida. He had no mood for anymore sex even though she tried to get him to do it again without success. The next day as she was about to leave she asked for 1Million and I had warned him not to comply beyond 500K and thus he paid her 500K and even though she insisted that she was worth 1Million. To cut the story short, he said he would call her later and she left!

24th May

While we were shopping at Plaza Semanggi, Dede kept on pestering my friend but unfortunately it was my local SimPATI number she was calling and she used the exact words that she used on another former here! Man she can really be a B1T#H sometimes!

That nite A had again made arrangements for me as ‘Fisherman’ had made plans with the girl he met in BATS and ‘Gorillaz’ had been having a good time with his local MILF which sucked him dry till his ball$ almost came off. Anyway that nite we went to Aphrodite @ Taman Rasuna and slightly later my mate for the nite turned up and immediately I was in lust as she was one of the cutest girl I ever meet in Jakarta and I wanted so very much to just do it with her there & then, but since my buddy had a mission in BATS we went over but luck was not on his side as his friend had gone home since he was 20minutes late!

We went to a nice 24 hour local restaurant and had a good meal as we were all famished but unfortunately for me my date for the nite said that she had an interview to attend in the morning and left me hanging really dry! But after meeting up with her I am defiantly going back to Jakarta to continue my adventures together with my buddies!

Last but not least I wish to thank 2 senior members who had willingly shared their valuable contact & made this trip 1 of the best trip I ever had!

Smoothy

06-01-05, 13:14

Five minutes later I received the sms of the moment - "you motherf&&&ker", f88k you" etc all because she expected more than 1 million albeit that this was her estimation of her worth and not mine and as Bulai points out it was rent time of the month. She sounds like a real sweetheart. Can I get her number? (joking)

That's a shocking story. I've been in Jakarta six years and I've never had a girl send me an sms like that. I've never given a girl more than 500k for the night. Mostly between 250k (terrible lay) and 400k (very good). They will try to get more money at times, but they never attack me like that. It sounds like you have stumbled onto a girl best avoided by all.

Racer07

06-02-05, 08:44

Hey guys,

I was wondering if someone could help me out. I have been reading about Jakarta for a few months now. I am new to the hobbying scene in Asia (except for a few Business trips to Japan) I recently had a trip planned to Thailand that I had to cancel due to an emergency. I am still trying to recover from that missed adventure. But once again I find myself looking at what is being written about Indo wondering if that once I am able to leave for my vacation if I should consider Jakarta instead of Thailand. Maybe someone can help steer my choice.

I am a 40 year old guy in the US, I do not speak any other languages. My questions are:

- Will I be safe in Jakarta? Do I need to take many more precautions?

- Is there any reason to choose Thailand over Jakarta? (I really like what I read about Jakarta and the GFE type experiences)

- Is it much more difficult to "hobby" there? I would assume Blok M is the best place to start?

- How difficult is it to get around with VERY limited knowledge of the place

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give.

Bulai69

06-02-05, 22:27

It is as safe in Jakarta as any big city; no more precautions than anywhere else but always use Blue Bird or Silver Bird taxi's and keep him waiting for you at night - very important. Cost is insignificant compared with how much you will be over charged if you come out of a club with a girl. Remember where he has parked.

None of the stuff you read about in here is "in your face" like it is in Thailand. But you'll have no trouble finding it if you read this forum. Jakarta is absolutely unbeatable for GFE.

There is no difficulty to "hobby" in Jakarta! Personally I'm not a fan of Blok M but each to his own. Getting around with VERY limited knowledge of the place is simple - just get taxi's (NB point above) but make sure they know where they are going before you set off. Ask your hotel doorman to explain and confirm that he definitely knows where he is going. Most Bluebird and Silver Bird taxi will know the places you are likely to want to go, assuming you are heading for places mentioned in here. You can get by with no local language if you stick to big malls, decent hotels and well known clubs.

John Aldrich

06-03-05, 08:18

"BTW, the store girl is called Ika and works on level 12"

Is that a mistake. Sarinah does not have level 12. Is it level 1 or level 2.

Cheers

Key Master

06-03-05, 10:28

Racer07,

If it's your first trip to southeast asia, then I would suggest Thailand because in my opinion it's a little easier laid out and more tourist friendly. Jakarta is very nice for just the sex option, but day activities are a little lacking where there seems to be much more to do in Thailand. The women might have a little better comprehension of english in Jakarta but it's really not a big deal in Thailand. There will be less of a stigma when you say you go to Indonesia or Jakarta vs. Thailand to your fellow americans back home. If your trip is around two weeks or more you might want to consider doing both and just buying your tickets to the other country in Bangkok or Jakarta. Airfare will probably be cheaper to fly into Bangkok than Jakarta. The money spent flying to Jakarta straight, can probably be saved by flying into Bangkok and staying there for awhile and buying a ticket to Jakarta.

I think Jakarta will be a little more difficult for a first timer. Blok M isn't as big as it sounds at least for the newbie. For mongering as a first timer, most of what you will probably be doing in Blok M is really on this maybe two city block long street where a bunch of bar discos are laid out and the two shopping centers Passaraya and Blok M Mall and then Hotel Melawai 6th floor massage. The more experienced will have more knowledge of other venues in the Blok, but those will most likely be your main destinations in Blok M.

Don't get me wrong. I love Jakarta for it's women. I just think if you are limited on time and how much vacation you get every year, you would be more happy including Thailand first in your itinerary in priority.

Just my opinion. I'm sure others will say differently.

Tamurlane26

06-03-05, 16:33

Amused to say the least at the tale of Dede and the mackerel smell - needless to say this was one I had avoided in my earlier encounter - unlike my misfortune with Maya !1

Needless to say dear Dede has the mouth of a fisherwoman so perhaps she and Fisherman were well suited ! Pun intended and not offence i hope !

I also had the pleasure of talking to said Fisherman and a fine gentlemen worthy of the Jakarta crew !! LOL

Am back on home ground this weekend and already have the lineup in place so watch this space for some more amusing tales albeit that Dede is not on my list of adventures to be repeated !

Possessed Seoul

06-04-05, 08:36

"BTW, the store girl is called Ika and works on level 12"

Is that a mistake. Sarinah does not have level 12. Is it level 1 or level 2.

CheersSorry, I was rather drunk at the time. Now I come to think of it, the place does not have a 12th floor, my bad. Anyone going to check out Kaiser?

Luna

06-05-05, 15:50

Just check in the Intercontinental Midplaza Hotel. After the long flight, decided to go to the Wellness Centre & Spa located in the 2nd floor of the Hotel. After the 60 minutes massage, the girl suddenly pop up a magic question to offer to massage my little xxxx. Ask for the price and she reply RP500,000. Bargain until RP100,000 and proceed with the special massage. Environment is OK but the massage was so so (for both normal and special) :(

One good point is she does allow touching her body :)

Bakuhatsu

06-05-05, 19:03

Hi!

I'm going to be in Jakarta for a couple of days next week, but not on the weekend. I'd like to check out some clubs where I can find girls (I don't like massage/brothels etc. very much). Are there any clubs that are busy during the weekdays? I've read about Stadium, BATS, Tiga Pulah, etc. How would those be?

Thanks!

Humsup

06-05-05, 19:23

FL - Bats, Shangri La around 22:00

Flew into Jakarta to visit friends and buy cheap DVDs, clothes and women. As I stayed with friends, my overnight mongering activities were curtailed however I managed to check out Bats. Cover was 60K Rp inclusive of drink, a good band played on the night and the place was crawling with brown sugars. I didn't do a lot as I couldn't take one home so basically chilled out enjoying the music and scanning the scene for doable providers. My solitary presence ultimately drew the attention of a reasonably looking Indo girl. We discussed the standard details where she asked if I wanted her for the night at 1M Rp. She was reasonably looking but I didn't particularly like the price and couldn't do it anyway so asked her for number and said I would call her back.

The next day after a lot of discussions and lots to and froing I managed to get her to come to my friend's place for 500000Rp, clearly stating I wanted 2-3 hours therefore implying 2 shots. My initial impression of girls in Bats were hardcore seasoned pros however it seems a lot of the girls are simply normal, regular girls who supplement their day job incomes with consulting services on the side. In this context the girls are proud and don't specifically regard themselves as hookers. I learnt this as the FL Cristine asked me to pick her up in the lobby upon arrival and escort her out when we were done.

We both took separate pre-fuck showers. I lay back on the bed and she immediately go to work. Cat bath, licking nipples, moving on didi. She gave a good BBBJ, I pointed to my arsehole and to my surprise she gave an AR and not bad either. She asked me if I had condoms, I said no to test her response. I positioned myself to penetrate her BB and seemed quite comfortable about taking it. I wasn't prepared to take chances so pulled out my own supply and slapped on a saddle. In hindsight which I'll elaborate later, I could and should have done her BB. I fucked her in my favourite positions, missionary, alternating between licking, sucking her nipples and French kissing. Flipped her around for my favoured doggie style position. I told her I wanted CIM, she refused however she took me BBBJTC for the final approach. As she didn't want CIM, I tried to shoot her in the face but I ended up splattering my load all over her tits and stomach.

We both cleaned up and she put her clothes on and asked for 500K. I told her 2 shots, or take 400K for 1, anyway this standoff continued for a while until I got sick of the banter and paid her money. During the standoff however, I asked her about Indo Chinese girls, she said they worked at Millennium. I'm not sure where that is but I will definitely check it out next time. This girl is a bit of a female OKT because she asked if I wanted one and immediately got on the blower to her Chinese friend despite me saying I wanted to see her friend first. She maybe a good contact as she has a number of friends willing to service for extra pocket money. She said her Chinese friend had a boyfriend but she didn't have enough money, clearly not all Indo Chinese are filthy rich. In fact, she all also mentioned having two boyfriends, both Saudis, obviously not involved in the oil business as they weren't supplementing her income. She showed me pictures on her camera phone. As she was a seeming regular girl, I think it may have been reasonbly safe to do her BB.

Overall a reasonable fuck but a bit on the pricey side. Her picture accompanies this post and also in the gallery. I have her number to pass onto serious WSG players on request. Just PM me.

Name: Cristine
Race: Indonesian Malay (Javan)
Age: 21 (so she claims)
Looks: 6/10
Body: 7/10
Boobs: 6.5/10
Cat bath: 6/10
FJ: 7/10
BBBJ: 7/10
AR: 6/10 (Not long enough)
French: 6/10
Attitude: 5/10
Price: IDR 500K (a bit pricey)
RTF: Maybe, in the absence of better offers

Bulai69

06-06-05, 19:04

Humsup - a good report about BATS and pretty typical I would say: as you imply and your photo shows, she was fairly average but still expected a 100 USD (a million Rp) just because of where you found her. In Jaksa (where I've seen her) after 2am she'd snap your hand off at 250k. However, I well understand why you finished up at 500k and I'd probably have done the same in the circumstances.

No offence though, but I can't help commenting on: "As she was a seeming regular girl, I think it may have been reasonbly safe to do her BB." Putting aside the sagacity of BB versus covered in general, I have to say that your inference that "it may have been reasonbly safe" is extremely dubious!!. You can be sure that she has at least one "partner" a day and probably has had for 5 years - even if she is 21 which I very much doubt. She looks more than 27 to me.

Bulai69

06-06-05, 19:15

You will have no problem finding girls during the week at any of the hotel clubs you've read about in here. Certainly Stadium, BATS, Tiga Pulah, etc are less busy but the ratio of men to women is pretty much the same if not more in your favour. Note the point mentioned lots of times about BATS prices. CJ's in Hotel Mulia near Plaza Senayan is another option. Also note that Stadium is quite a different kind of place to the hotel bars. You say you don't like massage/brothels etc. very much - well bear in mind that Stadium is at that end of the spectrum - they actually have full time pro's in there who you can take to a room in the establishment. But there are also amatuers, semi-pro's and hookers in the disco/club area as well. It's open very late - keep your taxi standing by if you go there.

If you've got time during the day, have a look in malls for amateurs. It can be time consuming if you are not too sure how to spot them but there is plenty of content in the forum on that subject. Atrium Mall is best after 13.00.

Jose Marcia

06-07-05, 15:28

hi folks,

i am arriving on july 1st. and would be there until july 7th. anyone for a beer? we can also monger together.

i found some info that may be worth a lot once there, and i would like to share this with fellow mongers. please comment on this list (e.g. what does this (warning: jangan percaya dengan no.hp/telp-nya, lewatin saja) mean?

please explain some places worth checking. thanks. i am having hard time understanding some of it.

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queen massage: wanita muda, cantik, sexy, dijamin ramah & professional (mahasiswi, karyawati, model) 18th - 27th. hubungi: 08128904477. panggilan se dki.

madonna massage: model, abg, mahasiswi, cantik, sexy, sopan. usia 18th - 22nd. putih, chinesse, indo, pribumi. hubungi: 08121936144. dijamin tidak kecewa 100%.

cahaya indra massage: full ac, air panas, parkir luas, tenaga wanita max 25th. jalan kepa raya ruko 2b (depan ex. bioskop tobar). telepon: (021) 5687962.

strawberry massage: mahasiswi, model, karyawati, cantik, sehat, professional, educated, terseleksi, service oke. rp 350ribu. hubungi: ria-08128770995.

panti pijat cahaya reflexi: urut kebugaran, reflexi, lulur. tenaga wanita. jalan
kebon kacang raya no. 4 (depan hotel wisata). telepon: (021) 31909404.

lestari massage: ditempat/panggilan, tenaga wanita berpengalaman (s/d 24th). jalan mangga besar raya 26 (samping rs husada) . hubungi: 08151892635.

pijat indah salon: tenaga wanita, ramah. lulur, massage kebugaran.. parkir luas. jalan raden saleh 28, hptel pardede, lantai basement. telepon: (021) 3914922.

pijat happy massage: tenaga wanita muda pilihan dari usa, europe, arabian, japan, chinesse, india, indo, afrika & artis. hubungi: 08174911964.

pijat bugar ta 17: tenaga wanita cantik, ac, bersih & nyaman. hubungi: 08129737311 / (021) 9255428. sebelah utara mall taman anggrek

bella massage: 17th - 25th, wanita cantik, sexy, menarik, cina bangka, bandung, menado, indo arab, pakistan, ramah, sopan, bersih. hubungi: 0817720903. 24 jam.

belinda massage club: full body massage cina, arab, pribumi, cantik, sexy,
ramah, (karyawati, spg, model, mahasiswi). tarif mulai 300 ribu. 08159473222.

talenta agency massage: koleksi gadis-gadis model & indo. modis & educated. bisa lihat foto sexy & bukti model. jalan menteng no: 59. 08129769996.

griya pijat sibayak sakti: fasilitas air panas, ac, parker luas. tenaga wanita 26th. jalan raden saleh raya no 14-e, jakarta pusat. (021) 3146675.

massage swanger: smu, mahasiswi, karyawati, ibu rt, lawyer, penyanyi, instruktur [utf-8?]senam & member. 17th - 30th. jam 06.00 18.00
08567856983. kelapa gading.

lusy massage: (17th - 25th) cantik, sexy, menarik, chinese, bangka, pribumi, indo, arab, pakistan, sabar, ramah, sopan, bersih, dijamin. 08179810152. magga besar.

full body massage: by devi (32nd) ex. model & peragawati. cantik, harum, terawat & sexy (167cm) service kebugaran. 0818867485. pasti puas. pondok indah.

apple escort massage: body massage by young escort girl (17th - 28th), cute, sexy, student, spg, model. special service: 3some, lesbian, party sex. call: 08121310099.

dewi anisa massage: wanita cantik, muda & seksi. ditempat/panggilan. memuaskan. jalan jatinegara timur no. 22a bali mester. rati-08174978008.

anna massage: lulur kebugaran tenaga pia & wanita, untuk pria & wanita di tempat. jalan boulevard raya blok f vi no: 4, kelapa gading. telepon (021) 4530670.

panti pijat: manjakan tubuh anda dengan treatment body scrub. hubungi elsarah salon jl. percetakan negara v/5. telepon (021) 4215320 ext:34 / 08129372404.

valentine massage: oleh wanita cantik, trampil, sopan, sabar (18th - 30th). terasa seperti bulan madu kedua, nikmat dan mesra. bela-08128991077. 24 jam

gih massage: pijat bugar tenaga wanita cantik, ac, bersih, tenang, nyaman, parkir luas, aman, fasilitas hotel, murah. mia- (021) 4604283 hotel gading indah lantai 2.

club play girl massage: mahasiswi, abg, spg, model, suku keturunan & ahli variasi. (rp 500ribu â€“ rp 2juta) 24 jam. lydia-08159369431.

zena massage: ladies, cantik, sexy, model terbukti ok asli 100%, mahasiswi, karyawati, model (18th - 27th), dijamin. mely- 08568069393. cikini.

kiss love's masage: oleh wanita cantik, muda & seksi (cina, arab, indo, india, model, mahasiswi) bisa variasi gaya. 24 jam, lydia-08128800041, casablanca.

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qq masage: koleksi wanita cantik terseleksi (karyawati, spg, model, irt) chinesse, lokal dijamin ramah, sopan, sabar, service ok. ada paket hemat. 08159236215.

panti pijat ibu roro: tenaga wanita cantik, usia muda. jalan peta selatan, ruko kali deres indah i/d7 telepon: (021) 5456067. (depan hari-hari swalayan)

pijat mayang sari: suasana nyaman, full ac, tenaga pijat wanita min. 25th. bukit duri plaza blok b. 25 â€“ jatinegara. telepon: (021) 9105984.

sumber sehat massage: pijat tradisional tenaga pria/wanita panggilan atau
ditempat. jalan mangga besar 4t/26b . (021) 6299340/08128958188.

massage tradisional: refleksi, lulur tenaga pria/wanita. ac, air panas. parkir luas. lantai 1 no. 114 & 115 (didalam ancol) telepon: (021) 6405641 ext-7429.

karmila entertainment: 100% asli & cantik, 100% garansi. model, abg, mahasiswi, spg, karyawati, peragawati. 08128199910. pancoran.

fame massage: koleksi gadis-gadis model, presenter, peragawati & artis. call to hotel & apartement only. khusus member bisa lihat 1000 foto & data diri. 08179194359.

ani massage: by mahasiswi, karyawati. cantik, menarik, ramah. 19th - 26th. chinese / pribumi. jalan cempaka putih raya. 08568500048.

kharisma ii massage: menerima khusus panggilan pria executive, wanita cantik, sexy, menarik, ramah. abg, model, mahasiswi. dita-08568044706. 24 jam.

the campus girl masage: have been college, beauty, sexy, modis, cute & talented education call: santi-08179863388 / 08158941301.

pijat kebugaran yanti: lulur, capekcapek, kurang gairah. full ac, tenang & bersih. jalan ketapang utara 1 no. 138a. telepon: (021) 6293133. gajah mada, kota.

ml executive club: dengan tenaga pria & wanita supel, menarik, profesional, gaul & sabar. untuk pria & wanita. panggilan hotel/apartemen. 08179882101.

ml executive club: massage dengan wanita-wanita catik, sexy, menarik. spg, abg, karyawati, model, mahasiswi. bisa lihat album via kurir 24 jam. 081310597195.

gm massage: mengatasi lemah syahwat, pijat alat vital tahan lama, diabetes, darah tinggi, masuk angin. rp 100ribu/jam. rina-08161638807.

lestari massage: bila badan anda pegal, letih dan capek-capek, kami siap membantu anda dengan pijat tradisional / lulur. astuti-08128428365. cawang.

devy massage: pijat urut tradisional rp 20ribu. ada lulur. tenaga wanita. pamulang permai i (belakang hero). terima panggilan. telepon: (021) 9118373 / 7443401.

model massage: tenaga pria/wanita model cover, cantik/ganteng untuk wanita/pria. rp 400ribu â€“ rp 800ribu. bisa live show. 08128971474. 24 jam.

lembut massage: kebugaran, pegal dengan pijatan & sentuhan lembut. tenaga wanita cantik, bersih, body sintal. murah. 08179980970. salemba raya.

pijat: new samurai abr fit, private massage kamar pribadi gaya jepang (open house) tenaga pria/wanita oke punya. jl. asam baris raya no. 1, tebet. telepon: (021) 8302103.

fanny massage: koleksi wanita-wanita chinesse sexy, cantik, menarik, bersih, sehat, putih mulus (17th - 23rd). 24 jam. 0818136793. gunung sahari.

susi massage: pengobatan, lulur, pijat kebugaran tenaga wanita ditangani sendiri. sampai jam 00.00. susi-(021) 4891808 / 081310415916. rawamangun.

putra sari refleksi: pijat tradisional, lulur, kebugaran. ac, bersih, nyaman. jl kebon kacang raya no. 7 (depan ascot). telepon: (021) 31902681. ditempat/panggilan, 24 jam.

mustika massage: mahasiswi, model, karyawati, cantik, sehat, professional, educated, terseleksi, service ok. rp 350ribu. ria- 08128770995.

bidadari massage: bila anda lelah, kami siap menemani dengan nona cantik, sexy, service bebas, puas, murah meiah. jl. bangka raya. 08174985800.

bale-bale massage: dengan tenaga pria/wanita trampil untuk pria/wanita, dengan aroma terapi + pijatan lembut. telepon: (021) 9256406. ditempat/panggilan.

fany massage: koleksi wanita chinesse sexy, cantik, menarik, bersih, sehat, putih mulus (17th - 23rd). 0818136793. gunung sahari. 24 jam.

strawberi massage: chinesse pribumi, bisa paket lulur & curhat. cantik dan ramah, dijamin happy. hubungi: 0818652346. jam [09.00 â€“ 21.00. no sms.

pijat mbak dewi: cantik, sopan, ramah. terapi alat vital memulihkan keperkasaan pria. jalan mangga besar ivt/26b (belakang pasar asam reges). telepon: (021) 6256480.

bella massage: 17th - 25th, wanita cantik, sexy, menarik, cina bangka, bandung, menado, indo arab, pakistan, ramah, sopan, bersih. 0817720903. 24 jam.

panti pijat ibu shinta: tenaga keibuan, ramah, sabar, sopan, menarik, putih,
cantik, sehat, service oke, dijamin puas. 08176026071.

pijat terapi pengobatan: dengan 7 tenaga wanita cantik, bersih, full ac, kamar mandi dalam, wisma griya kemayoran blok r-47. 081510043696.

happynes massage: mau yang asyikasyik disini aja, dengan gadis cantik & pria
pilihan, chinese, pribumi. ada live show. hubungi: 081314438548. to hotel.

pijat alat vital: dari madura. jagonya urut problem pria. atasi lemah syahwat & ejakulasi dini, dll. eva-08128555061. service ok, dijamin puas (full ac)

sisi massage: sensasi wanita chinesee, cantik, menarik, bersih, sehat, putih mulus, sexy, abg (17th - 22nd), panggilan 24jam, rp 200ribu. 08569067778. mgg besar.

pijat terapi: alat vital obati lemah syahwat, ejakulasi dini, tambah ukuran, luluran. full ac, parkir luas, rp 100ribu. ci sherly/lenny-08176536477.

diva club massage: dengan tenaga wanita pilihan. (rp 250ribu/1 jam, plus biaya kamar hotel & 2 softdrink) 08568183133. jalan pinangsia i no. 55.

yeyen massage: wanita china, bangka, pontianak, jawa, sunda, cantik, sexy, baik, [utf-8?]sopan, 18th â€“ 26th. 0817807577. bisa pijat, panggilan 24 jam.

imel massage: kepuasan refleksi wanita cantik, pribumi, chinese, arab, mahasiswi, abg, dll. tarif rp 250ribu. 24 jam. 0818136293, salemba.

juliet agency: new open, gadis-gadis sexy, cantik, fresh & pria-pria ganteng/macho.. 08176840995. (live show) service oke, untuk pria dan wanita.

valensia club massage: gadis-gadis sexy, manis, putih & pria tampan, atletis,
modeling. chinese, pribumi, indo. 08569996109. (live show)

sun flower agency: nona-nona cantik, sexy & pria tampan, atletis. service oke, 24 jam panggilan. live show. new open. thalia-08176846604.

massage ascore agent: massage dengan gadis-gadis cantik, model, mahasiswi, karyawati, penari & ada live show. 08158275869 - 08174896669.

bunga love massage: sensasi wanita puda, cantik, lincah, ramah & profesional. dijamin puas, khusus panggilan. elaâ€ 081310211279/ intan-08158246529.

olympia masage: oleh pria/wanita macho/sexy. dari dalam & luar negeri (asia,
afrika, bule, indo, dll). jakarta timur. 0818947645.

urut tradisional "ibu hannah": bersih dan nyaman. jalan sekip raya no. 4 /
jalan sunter jaya iia no. 4, sunter. susan-08129417342.

pink masage: koleksi cewek cantik, menarik, sexy. chinese, indo, pribumi (abg, model, mahasiswi, karyawati, pramugari). alya-08174918872.

gita massage: wanita-wanita cantik, mahasiswi, model, karyawat. panggilan hotel 24 jam. dijamin tidak kecewa. buktikan. 08159734591/081310561325. no sms.

asik-asik massage: kesehatan tubuh asik punya, tenaga wanita cantik, sexy, bagus, mempesona. andingkan harganya. 08179995068. no sms.

blue diamond club: selected of high class: boys n girls. student, nodel, foreigh, live show, 3some, all service for male & female. michael-081586333313. no sms.

bugar sehat spa & shiatsu: fasilitas whirpool dan sauna. display foto therapish. ruko atrium senen blok h 1-3. telepon: (021) 3862667

elisa massage: karyawati muda, cantik, ramah, putih, sehat, agresif, bisa curhat, nurut. service terserah asal puas. tarif murah, dijamin. 08174904420. rawamangun.

murah meriah massage: dengan tenaga pria / wanita, pilihan kerendan
professional, dijamin sangat memuakan & oke. 08561527049. terima sms 24 jam.

yulia massage: 26 tahun, asli jawa. pijat urut refleksi. menerima panggilan 24 jam. dijamin tidak kecewa pijitannya. 081510158529. rp 250ribu / 3 jam.

sari asih salon: pijat, lulur, creambath, dll. full ac, wanita muda, cantik, parkir luas. jalan pramuka raya 25c (sebelum hotel central) telepon: (021) 4260687.

therapy alat vital: tenaga wanita cantik, [utf-8?]18th 35th. full ac, kamar mandi dalam. hotel melati ii, jalan hayam wuruk no. 1, harmoni. 08159040987.

mayang massage: menyediakan wanita wanita cantik, sexy, cina, bandung, menado. 16th 22th, rp 350/3 jam. khusus panggilan 24 jam. 081314249656.

therapy alat vital: tenaga wanita cantik, 18th 35th. full ac, kamar mandi dalam. jalan industri raya (samping hotel sheraton gunung sahari) . 081315272444.

mey mey massage: sensasi wanita wanita chinese, cantik, menarik, bersih, 17th â€“ 24th. panggilan 24 jam. rp 200ribu / 2 jam. 08561225849. pasar baru.

yenny massage: menyediakan wanita wanita cantik, sexy, montok, bandung, cina, manado. 16th 22th. panggilan 24 jam. rp 350/3 jam. 081316582533.

wulan massage: kerja sendiri dan benar bisa pijat. usia 29th. ramah, manis, padat, montok, sintal, bisa bahasa inggris. rp 300. 0818938958. panggilan.

melly massage: dengan wanita muda, cantik, menarik, putih, bersih, body sexy. 17th 23rd rp 300/3 jam. chinese dan pribumi.081584180110. panggilan.

danilla massage: terapi, refleksi, lulur, creambath, facial dengan tenaga wanita muda, cantik, sehat. danilla salon, jalan kelapa dua raya no. 4e. telepon: (021) 5355907.

dilla massage: cantik, sopan, ramah, ada pijat kebugaran, lulur, service oke, 16th 37th. panggilan ditempat, 24 jam. 081315698183. dwi warna, pasar baru.

bunga massage: cewek amoy, arab, pribumi, cantik, asik, puas, bersih. dijamin tidak kecewa 081584120055. senen. panggilan 24 jam.

shella massage: wanita muda, asli bandung, 23rd, kerja sendiri. sopan, ramah, sabar, baik, lugu, menarik, service oke. 08176632165. rp 300ribu.

yohana massage: asli cina bandung, kerja sendiri, 27th, putih, sabar, ramah, sopan. atasi problem pria (impoten, ejakulasi dini, dll). 08176818838. panggilan.

maya massage: tenaga "freelance", agresif, montok, seksi, sopan, baik sekali, sabar, sehat, service full body. hangat sampai puas. dijamin. hubungi: 08569809050.

meihwa massage: 25th, keturunan cina surabaya. menarik, seksi, agresif, sabar, ramah, bersih, sehat, sopan, service oke. 0816780233. kerja sendiri. rp 300ribu.

the amor massage: chinese, 29th, sexy, cantik, manis, lembut, ramah, putih, mulus. pijat kebugaran untuk pria executive. stefie-081314570163. kerja sendiri.

beauty massage: pijat kebugaran atau tradisional dengan tenaga sendiri (freelance). chinese manado. putih, bersih, cantik. 081586134783. no sms.

dea massage: tenaga wanita muda, 19th, imut-imut, kecil, mungil, lugu, sabar, sopan, hot. kerja sendiri. rp 200 08176687484. panggilan.

melisa massage: pijat kebugaran ala jawa, full service, tenaga wanita, putih, bersih, seksi. dijamin puas. khusus panggilan 24 jam. 081314575250. no sms.

laura massage: pijat dengan tenaga wanita hyper, agresif, cantik, bersih. full
service. rp 300ribu. tidak kecewa. 0818731771. panggilan 24 jam.

widya massage: tenaga wanita, sopan, terampil, ramah, berpengalaman. parkir luas, aman. jalan daan mogot i no: 11 (dekat citraland) telepon: (021) 5682886.

pegasus spa: dengan tenaga wanita muda. massage, shiatsu, traditional. hot & cold pool. sauna, steam. cafï & bar. jalan pinangsia ii no: 14 16. telepon: (021) 6282905 â€“ 06.

lokasari sauna: tenaga wanita muda. massage. hot & cold pool. sauna, steam. cafï & bar. jalan mangga besar raya no: 81, komplek lokasari. telepon: (021) 6393468.

trendy woman massage: cantik, harga terjangkau, service oke, pasti asyik deh. devi-08174921067. senen.

best masage: beauty, educated, sexy, [utf-8?]talented. age 18th 25th, arrived to hotel, 1 hour or free. call: 08158777240

massage: spg, mahasiswi, ramah, cantik, siap 24 jam. panggilan ke hotel. dijamin pasti puas. alycia-08561050588.

citra massage: wanita cantik, imut-imut, muda-muda, sehat, professional & aduhai. ayu-0818896160. terjangkau

shan-shan massage: asli mahasiswi, chinesse, pribumi, profesional & dijamin ramah. 08179127454. panggilan 24 jam.

pretty girl massage: dengan tenaga wanita muda, ramah, service diutamakan.
0818877636. khusus panggilan.

difa massage: wanita cantik, mahasiswi / excecutif, ramah, sopan. khusus panggilan ke hotel. 0818492965. kelapa gading.

faustina massage: model, excecutif, mahasiswi, ramah & sopan. khusus panggilan. 08158076975.

pijat kebugaran: tenaga wanita muda, menarik, murah, bersih. jalan pinangsia i no. 55 jakarta. dewi-08179197255.

primadona massage: tenaga wanita cantik, menarik, mahasiswi, karyawati & foto model. 08179162101. 24 jam.

cantik manis massage: cantik, sexy, harga terjangkau, pasti asyik deh, anita-08121971014.

girl massage: mahasiswi, model, usia antara 19th - 21st, melayani panggilan, dijamin tidak kecewa. aldo-0818655997

donna massage: mahasiswi, spg, model, usia 19th 23rd. 24 jam panggilan ke hotel, rahasia terjamin. 08179176254.

shan-shan massage ii: asli mahasiswi, chinesse, pribumi, profesional & dijamin ramah. 08129277524. panggilan 24 jam.

x-file massage: public figure, model, peragawati, high class, putih, terseleksi. jalan senopati 75c. 08129647213.

pijat urut geulis: untuk pria dengan tenaga wanita yang trampil, lembut dan ramah. bu yati-(021) 7993574.

exotic massage: tenaga wanita cantik, menarik, mahasiswi & karyawati, 24 jam. chiness. amey-08568822478.

gm pijat: panggilan, 24 jam, tarif rp 30ribu/jam, dipijat oleh wanita. (021) 63852123, 08164841264, 08129243236.

ranti massage: wanita cina pontianak, bangka, palembang, bandung, manado, putih, cantik, sabar. 08179162670

kajool massage / bonita agency: ada tenaga wanita untuk pria, cantik, sexy,
ramah, sabar. 08128752917

vinny massage: wanita cina, indo, pakistan. mahasiswi, karyawati, model. 17th - 24th. 0817766436. matraman raya

abg (all best girl) massage: 100% pelajar, delivery to hotel only, 19th 24th. 08567867166.

copacobana massage club: nikmat & mesra, cantik, manis, manja, sexy. panggilan 24 jam. vira-08159203222. ancol.

jelita massage: wanita cantik jelita, mahasiswi muda. usia 17th 23rd. dijamin. mitha-08174911450.

cahaya indra massage: full ac, air panas, parkir luas, tenaga wanita. jalan kepa raya ruko 2b (depan ex. bioskop tobar)

lily massage: noni abg, cina, putih, sexy, cantik, baik, sabar, 16th 21st. asli abg. 0818724372. mangga besar, 24 jam.

sella massage: dengan tenaga wanita muda, cantik, mulus & energik. brando-08128818834. 24 jam.

lisa meteor massage: sexy, cantik, abg, mahasiswi. 18th 24th. onky- 08128988104. 24 jam.

pijat: reflexi, lulur, mandi susu, creambath, potong rambut. tenaga wanita, murah. (021) 6246478 / 08128810261

tiffany massage: mahasiswi, model, usia [utf-8?]19th 21st. melayani panggilan, dijamin tidak kecewa. 08561033340.

irex ladies star massage: sexy, cantik, pasti puas. buktikan. peggy-08568081116/08161111569. 24 jam.

kamasutra massage: high class [utf-8?]woman (18th â€“ 30th) garansi 100%, hubungi: rana & rani-08179828584. 24 jam.

bibir mer massage: sexy, cantik, manja, molek, aduhai. (rp 500ribu rp 3juta) 08121991191. 24 jam. grogol.

putri massage: koleksi tenaga gadis-gadis pilihan kelas atas untuk pria excecutive. 08174929813. 24 jam.

dennis massage: pijat kebugaran tradisional tenaga wanita. jalan menteng no:56, jakarta selatan. 08158727556.

mey-mey massage: wanita cina, indo, pribumi, cantik, putih, bersih, servis bagus. jenny-08174948069. pramuka.

vvip massage: sexy, cantik, bersih, high [utf-8?]class girl (19th 24th). buktikan. 08159353399. 24 jam. no sms.

mega m massage: cantik, ramah, muda, menarik, khusus panggilan ke rumah, hotel, apartemen. hubungi: 08174967469. 24 jam.

cleopatra massage club: koleksi wanita cantik kelas atas, buktikan. hubungi:
08179186109. untuk pria excecutive.

sanchai massage: sexy, cantik, bersih, high class girl, tenaga wanita chinese. buktikan. 08128800680. 24 jam. no sms.

massage girl: sexy, cantik, bersih, tenaga wanita chinesse, pribumi, indo. buktikan. 08129879394. 24 jam.

ajeng massage: terima pijat tradisional dengan tenaga wanita, pelayanan ramah, sabar, 08161827966.

mawar massage: abg, model, mahasiswi, karyawati. asli, tidak kecewa. hubungi: ratna- 08568857927. cawang. (mulai rp 350ribu)

anita mui massage: (16th 23rd) abg, cina & pribumi. bangka, sunda, putih, cantik. 08179810142. mangga besar.

ratu massage: tenaga wanita abg, spg, mahasiswi, cantik & sexy. to hotel 24 jam. bravo-08158968569.

best girl massage: koleksi abg, spg, model (18th 29th) to hotel dki & bali. 24 jam. 0818860550.

panti pijat: ex. mbak cindy, bengkelnya lelaki, mengatasi lemah syahwat, dll. hubungi: nia-08158872683 & meta-0816703343.

pijat kebugaran: mandi susu, creambat dengan tenaga wanita, menarik, nyaman, murah. wati-0817126537.

chika massage: wanita china, cantik, [utf-8?]dijamin bersih, putih mulus, sexy (18th 24th). 24 jam. 08179922557. tebet raya.

shanghai massage: koleksi abg, spg, semua tenaga wanita chinesse pilihan. 24 jam. 08568005292.

angel massage: tenaga abg, mahasiswi, model, cantik, putih, sexy. koleksi gadis-gadis amoy. 0817868594.

rosalinda club: koleksi tenaga gadis high class: pribumi, chinesse, model, mahasiswi, spg, 18th 35th. 08128511242.

vinolia massage: rilex massage dengan wanita cantik terpilih, bersih, ramah (rp 300ribu). lia-08159511616.

lig-ling massage: dengan tenaga amoy, model, cantik, sexy, sehat, muda, harga terjangkau. aling-08561076969

beauty model ageny massage: koleksi gadis high class: model, indo, ragawati, selebriti. 08179194359.

inul massage: wanita cina/indo, cantik, putih, sabar, sopan, lulur, 16th 50th. 24 jam hubungi: 08129796971. menteng.

pijat ibu ani: tenaga ibu-ibu cina/indo, sabar, cantik, sopan, putih, lulur, spa, 08128981431. rp 250ribu.

laris masage: terima full body massage kebugaran, capek-capek. khusus panggilan tenaga wanita. ice-0817812731.

dara masage: tenaga wanita. cantik, sexy, putih, profesional. khusus panggilan. dijamin puas. dara-081310416104.

gladys masage: mahasiswi, model, abg. cantik, sexy, profesional. khusus panggilan kemana saja. 08567850700.

tasya masage: wanita cina cantik, dijamin sexy, putih mulus, bersih (18th 26th), 24 jam. 08179880200. proklamasi, menteng.

susan massage: dengan tenaga wanita amoy, geulis (18th 22nd) tarif rp 400ribu rp 600ribu. hubungi: ary-08158934691. 24 jam.

romantika massage: koleksi tenaga pria dan wanita pilihan (18th 27th) untuk pria. hubungi: 081310725901. 24 jam.

ica massage: wanita cina 23rd, imut, kecil, sabar, manja, sopan, baik, cantik. 24 jam. 08121891654. rawamangun.

ratu massage ii: dengan wanita muda, cantik, putih, terpilih. profesional khusus panggilan. 081310756580.

goyang dombret massage: pribumi, keturunan, muda, cantik. (19th 25th). 24 jam. 08179865686.

lia massage: mengatasi ejakulasi dini, impoten, lulur tradisional, dll. 24 jam. 08128827365.

edgina massage ii: koleksi gadis-gadis pilihan, profesional & dijamin ramah. 08129395552. panggilan ke hotel.

panti pijat kiki salon: gunting dll, pijat kebugaran, lulur, refleksi. jalan raya kali malang (depan hotel horizon).

dinda massage: wanita cantik, menarik, ramah, dijamin puas. khusus panggilan ke hotel. anita-08179964626. blok m.

griya pijat triasih: ac, tenaga wanita, parkir luas. jalan dewi sartika 313b,
cawang. telepon: (021) 8011645.

full body massage: wanita cantik, menarik, ramah, service memuaskan. panggilan ke hotel. bella-0818472537.

princes massage club: cantik, menarik, ramah, muda, indo, chiness, mahasiswi. khusus panggilan ke hotel. 0818793119.

pijat-lulur-mandi susu: tenaga wanita, cantik, murah, lia- 08179103883.

amoy rosamound kwan massage: gaya sensual gadis-gadis amoy, 17th â€“ 33th. cantik, sexy. yeyen-08159332188.

femina massage: massage by relax. (abg, mahasiswi, karyawati) cantik, muda (rp 350ribu). ria-0818153552.

dream massage: tenaga wanita/pria muda, cantik & tampan, ramah, putih. untuk pria & wanita. 081310673676.

gladys ii masage: mahasiswi, model, abg. cantik, sexy, profesional. panggilan
kemana saja. 08568045656.

diky massage: tenaga wanita/pria muda, cantik & tampan, ramah, putih. untuk pria & wanita. 08568003251.

kiki massagge: mahasiswi, karyawati. [utf-8?]india, chinese, arab, pribumi, cantik, 16th â€“ 25th. tidak kecewa. 0818876616.

sweet masage: tenaga pria/wanita untuk pria/wanita, suami istri. service memuaskan. 081310597910. 24 jam.

shanon massage: the girls of scores [utf-8?]massage 18th â€“ 25th. prety, sexy come to services. call: leonita-08567826459.

noni massage: tenaga wanita cantik, baik, [utf-8?]sabar, anggun. 17th â€“ 23rd . cina, pribumi, arab. 08121832269. rawamangun.

sela massage: cantik, sexy, terampil. abg, mahasiswi, karyawati, peragawati, model, irt. 08179899361. 24 jam.

maya masage: model, abg, pramugari. chinesse, pakistan, arab, pribumi. panggilan 24 jam. 08179914117. matraman raya.

terapi body massage: dengan tenaga wanita muda ahli terapi, body bersih usia 20th. novi-08161617275.

massage girl: pijat kebugaran tradisional tenaga wanita. banyak tenaga muda chinesse. 08159543594.

kartika massage: oleh wanita 28th, bisa curhat, ramah dan sopan. rp 50ribu + transport. 08129070167.

vivi massage: abg, model, karyawati. asli tidak kecewa. khusus panggilan. vivi- 0818811849.

inge massage: dengan tenaga amoy, [utf-8?]geulis (18th - 24th) rp 400ribu â€“ rp 600ribu. buktikan. hubungi: ary-08158934691.

pijat urut: lulur dan refleksi tradisional khas solo, jawa tengah. khusus panggilan. mbak prih-08179921132.

shiao che massage: tenaga wanita amoy, model, cantik, sexy, usia muda, harga terjangkau. 08179976566.

lovillea massage: dengan tenaga wanita muda, cantik, menarik, sexy, bersih, ramah, sopan. 081310407116.

karisma massage: dengan tenaga wanita cantik, sexy, ramah, karyawati, mahasiswi, ibu rt. sarah-08568523369.

dahlia massage: tenaga wanita cantik, manis, ramah, sabar, bersih. buktikan, dijamin. 0817822815. bisa sms.

lestari massage: menerima panggilan di tempat, apartemen, hotel, dengan tenaga wanita. ary-08158934691.

monic massage: dengan tenaga nona cantik, sexy, putih, ramah (18th - 23rd). 08121844209. pramuka.

ratu ii massage: sexy, cantik, bersih, tenaga wanita chinesse, pribumi, indo.
buktikan. 0818191229.

pijat ibu ira: sexy, cantik, bersih, tenaga wanita banyak pilihan koleksi. buktikan. 24 jam. sasa/ira-08161604686.

angel massage: (17th - 25th) sensasi gadis amoy, arab, pakistan, indo. putih, imut. 0818788720. gunung sahari.

leony massage: noni-noni abg chinesse (17th - 22nd), cantik, sexy, putih bersih, baik. 08179990073. pasar baru.

amoy massage ii: sensasi gadis amoy (17th - 35th). cantik, putih, sexy terseleksi. dewi-0818985765. tidak kecewa.

shanghai ii massage: koleksi cewekcewek china high class. buktikan. khusus untuk pria executive. 081310698208

rani massage: tenaga wanita 21th - 25th. cantik, menarik sexy. 24 jam. khusus panggilan ke hotel. 081310493937.

hot massage: untuk pria & wanita dengan tenaga pria/wanita muda. 24 jam. fajar-08128856583.

vina massage: tenaga wanita chinesse, [utf-8?]cantik, menarik, sexy, bersih, imut, putih (18th 24th). 08568592490. 24 jam.

bunga massage: lulur segar dengan wanita cantik, menarik, bersih, service oke. 08179995737. matraman raya.

high class massage: dengan tenaga wanita cantik, menarik, bersih, service oke. 081310239368.

gemini massage: dengan tenaga waita muda chinesse, cantik, sexy, putih, ramah. 081310283732.

clara massage: tenaga mahasiswi, abg, model, cantik, sexy, koleksi gadis amoy. 0817860594. dijamin.

cinderella massage: tenaga muda chinesse, pribumi, cantik, sopan, ramah.
roy-081310103173.

call me massage: koleksi wanita chinesse sexy, cantik, menarik, bersih, sehat, putih mulus. 081310405845.

gadis massage: tenaga gadis-gadis cantik, putih, pilihan. tarif rp 600ribu. khusus panggilan. 08179970241.

pijat kebugaran/lulur: tenaga wanita muda, murah, menarik, nyaman, bersih.
lia-081310375725.

ling-ling masage: gadis chinesee, cantik, putih, sexy, imut, sehat & profesional. tarif terjangkau. 08561882406.

hot masage: wanita cantik, terbukti oke dijamin 100%. mahasiswi, karyawati, model, abg. rani-08158128887. cikini.

erika masage: khusus panggilan, pasti oke, tidak kecewa. koleksi cewek-cewek pilihan. buktikan. 08568966892. salemba.

tasya massage: pegal? capek-capek? mau rilex? cantik, manis, semua ada. tidak bosan. 08176406082. rawamangun.

stella massage: cina, arab, pribumi, body oke, cantik, profesional, harga murah, terjamin. 08123904477. pramuka.

dahlia massage: khusus panggilan, dijamin oke, tidak kecewa. koleksi cewek 2x cantik, terpilih. 08159995357.

sanchai club massage: 100% wanita chinessee. cantik, manis, semua ada. tidak bosan. 081310000881.

bidadari club massage: sekretaris, model, cover girl (on tv), mahasiswi. tidak bosan. 08568514117.

zhu zhuka massage: amoy chinese asli, dijamin. cantik & sexy. to hotel 24 jam. 0818708389.

idola massage: muda, cantik, sexy, terpelajar, mahasiswi. dijamin memuaskan. to hotel. 08176061163.

jingga massage: gadis belia (16-25 tahun) model, vj, dancer, striptease, hot. to hotel. hubungi: boby-08176886707.

bionda massage: koleksi gadis-gadis chinese & indo (abg, mahasiswi, pramugari). to hotel. hubungi: 081510042818.

amani massage: khusus panggilan dengan tenaga abg, karyawati, cantik, rp
200ribu. 081310895956.

miss massage: wanita-wanita highclass, model, mahasiswi, karyawati, abg, full service. aji-081586025433.

jkt massage: dengan tenaga wanita muda cantik + pria ganteng untuk pria/wanita/pasutri. 0818180507.

fantasi club massage: wanita chinese, pribumi, karyawati, mahasiswi. service oke, memuaskan. 08561225848.

love agent massage: cantik, sexy, muda, terpelajar, diakui sejak dulu. 08176733056.

girl massage: cantik-cantik, muda-muda, sexy, service oke, chinese, indo, arab. 0818189964.

sensasional 2004 massage: sedia pria/wanita untuk panggilan di hotel/apartment. 081314354270.

java lady's massage: gadis manis, baik & ayu. siap antar, 24 jam. 08176877669.

winona club massage: klub mahasiswi dan wanita-wanita high class, khusus untuk panggilan. arthur - 081311390118.

chinese agent: gadis-gadis cantik, sexy, menarik, high class (rp 700ribu rp 1.5juta). 08174986669.

kiss agency: gadis-gadis chinese, pribumi, muda, sexy. abg cantik, romantis, manis, penurut. 24 jam. 0817715669.

young lady massage: full body massage dengan tenaga wanita cantik, ramah, 08568127152.

meili massage: for high class man only, pijat plus & party oleh mahasiswi cantik dan penurut. 08161474064.

lisa massage: gadis-gadis cantik & priapria macho, untuk pesta pribadi. adi - 08561015455.

indah massage: sensasi wanita chinese, arab, cantik, menarik, bersih, putih, sexy. 18th 25th. 08121865868. tebet.

ling-ling masage: koleksi cewek cantik, sexy, montok. chinese, indo, abg, pramugari. service oke. bela - 081311499592.

ken dedes masage: sensasi gadisgadis chinese, indo, pribumi, model, mahasiswi. for pria executive. 08568965993.

andini masage: sensasi tenaga wanita. chinese, arab, pribumi. service oke, rp 150ribu. 081311053545.

queen massage: cantik-cantik, sexy, hyper. chinese & pribumi. abg, mahasiswi, model, karyawati. 08159722492.

madonna massage: cewek-cewek cantik, chinese, indo, pribumi. abg, mahasiswi, model, karyawati. 08159203637.

angelita massage: wanita highclass, mahasiswi, pramugari, model, artis. hotel
24jam. dedy - 081310456650.

susmita zen massage: pelajar, mahasiswi, model, pramugari, bisa live show,
lesbian, hiper. 0818176066.

cindy massage: abg cantik, imut, baik, manis, ramah, agresif, service luar dalam. dijamin puas. 08174810279.

sarah massage: cantik, baik, lembut dan sabar. putih bersih, body sexy, padat. semua bisa murah. 08179113724. tebet.

ladies com massage: sedia pelajar, mahasiswi, spg, penari, cantik, sexy, 0817719779. to hotel only.

rita massage: dengan wanita cantik, muda, sexy, putih. arab + jawa. umur 17th â€“ 25th. hubungi: 081316239224. 24 jam.

shelvy massage: sensasi wanita chinese, cantik, putih, sexy. 18th â€“ 24th. dijamin. 08176818877. 24 jam. pasar baru.

sisi massage: gadis cantik, chinese, arab, pribumi. abg, 17th 25th. panggilan 24 jam. 081514117778. pasar baru.

sherin massage: wanita wanita high class, model, mahasiswi. hubungi: jhon -
081514196366. untuk pria eksekutif.
sisca massage: cina â€“ sunda, putih, sopan, bisa pijat, service oke. khusus panggilan. 0817706169. kerja sendiri.

cici massage: (17th - 25th) sensasi gadis amoy, arab, pakistan, indo. putih, anggun, imut. 0818788720. gunung sahari.

g club massage: anda ingin service yang luar biasa oleh gadis gadis cover tabloid / iklan? rp 1juta nett. 081314349059.

eva massage: agresif, sabar, ramah, hangat, santai, sopan, full service, bisa pijat. 08174802369. panggilan.

nisa massage: bisa pijat plus service oke. kerja sendiri, jawa ayu, sehat, sopan & sabar. 081315451909 08159775595.

winona massage: model, mahasiswi, abg, tinggi, putih bersih, untuk pria eksekutif. 081314357928.

lovillea massage: chinese, muda, menarik, cantik, seksi, bersih, sehat, baik, sabar, ramah & sopan. hubungi: 081310822529.

ania massage: 25th, belum menikah, ramah, sopan, sabar, manis, rambut panjang. hubungi: 081510185676. 24 jam.

yanti massage: 36th, manis, sopan, ramah, kerja sendiri, betul betul pijat plus
service oke. 081584056385.

isma massage: usia 26th, sabar, ramah, manis, langsing. rp 250ribu. panggilan to hotel. 0818728406.

sheila massage: koleksi gadis gadis pilihan. ramah dan sopan. khusus panggilan ke hotel. 08176521159.

lilian massage: cewek cina jakarta, kerja sendiri. refleksi kebugaran & terapi. 081315321298. 24 jam.

amanda massage: 23rd, ayu, manis, ramah, rambut panjang, kerja sendiri. 081584278848. 24 jam.

anggie massage: koleksi pramugari, putih mulus. koleksi dijamin ekslusif. 08176665399.

andini massage: tenaga muda, cantik, sexy dan baru baru. pasti puas. doni - 08561618175. to hotel.

monique massage: mahasiswi, karyawati, muda, ramah, sabar. dijamin oke. 081314634727. cikini raya.

kayanya harus ada deh yang mau berjuang demi kemajuan kita bersama, menuliskan/menginventarisir daftar alamat pp yang ok punya di seluruh lokasi (jakpus, jaksel, jaktim, jakbar n' jakar) kan jadinya para pemula yang mau merasakan dan mencoba kenikmatan yang sudah kita raih ini jadi bisa juga dirasakan oleh mereka, dan jadinya bisa ketauan deh siapa yang paling master dan tau semua pp yang ok punya... satu email untuk semua...ok
peace,

daftar no-hp cewe2 kece: # 1. nama lidya ( pengoleksi mahasiswi panggilan - alias 'mami' ) no hp-nya 0815-3151810 - nelpon-nya harus jam 7 malem keatas!

daerah kekuasaannya: jakarta, bogor dan bandung... # 2. nama tina (sama dengan lidya - seorang 'mami' - temenan malah) no hp-nya 0813-61522533
- nelpon-nya sama aja jam 7 keatas!

daerah kekuasaannya: palembang dan medan... # 3. nama faisa (cewek club lokasari millies) no hp-nya 0813-10076359 - tampang ok, orangnya to the point ngak suka basa basi...

# 4. nama heni (cewek diskotik lokasari millies) no hp-nya 0813-10489649 - nelpon-nya harus hari rabu, jumat dan sabtu, kalo hari lain tidak diterima...

# 5. nama vie (indo - bule) no hp-nya 0813-10558810 atau 021-5809129
- bahasa indonesia-nya masih kasar, tapi dijamin mainnya hot.... ini ada juga coba lo kontak panti pijat namanya widya massage lokasi jl. daan mogot i deket diskotek medika telp. 5682886 tarif pijat 50 rb cewe-nya bs dipake tambah duit +/- 200 rb lo cari yang namanya wati lumayan tuh ini coba kontak titin 08161442809 tarifnya 250-300 rb klo nginep 400 rb katanya sih full service bisa ngapain aja (mandi kucing, karaoke, dll) asal tidak anal katanya...

nama : venia fuhaid (keturunan arab)asal banyuwangi
umur : 32 tahun
status : ibu rumah tangga genit
ciri-ciri : tinggi 165cm, rambut ikal, kulit putih mulus, bh36a, sintal tubuh masih kencang, memek berbulu cukup lebat, nafsu birahinya tinggi dan menggairahkan
alamat : jln kaliurang km15, ngemplak, jogjakarta (0274)-895791 hp/sms 0817268901

try to contact :

1. mia (liong tjin tjin) - hp: 0856-9052579 * email: mia_sabrina@yahoo.com (chinesse medan)
2. ade_suci_sukmawati@yahoo.com - tel.office: 021-3441238 address: jatibening, caman bekasi
3. lita - hp: 0813-11022350
4. vera - hp: 0815-82956166 * telp.home: 021-70117289
5. silvi email sr1688@yahoo.com (27 years old) -
find her in grand melia or grand hyatt or mandarin oriental
6. vida - hp: 0816-679392 telp.home: 021-8004023 (call her 19.00-23.00)
7. meliana - back of citraland mall college: tarumanegara universty
8. si imut... hp: 0351-894847

the places that you can find another sexy and hot young girls :

1.mahakam - mcstop
2.bulungan - olin
3.karaoke bengkel cafe bej
4.karaoke rem ancol
5.karaoke hotel maharadja - tendean street
6.karaoke menara thamrin
7.karaoke monggomas hayamwuruk
8.puri handayani spa - pangeran jayakarta street
9.hotel ambhara bar - jakarta selatan
10. panti pijat puspa indah - kebayoran lama
11. panti pijat sari mustika no.2 golden truly fatmawati
12. panti pijat mawar golden truly fatmawati
13. panti pijat nirwana - mt haryono street
14. panti pijat sumber waras no.2 - ciputat raya
15. hotel melawai no.1 lt.6 "maribaya" - melawai raya (11.00-23.00)
16. ps mayestik (sentral, timung, porti)
17. sari mustika (grand wijaya, golden fatmawati, kelapa gading)
18. liberty salon - semeru no.18 street (sanniah & nopi - chinese kalimantan)
19. kimochi - mangga besar viii no. 12b/c
20. kartika bar and massage - hayam wuruk no.114 - next to suisse bakery
21. medika lt.2 - daan mogot i/31 - back of citraland mall
22. widia bar - daan mogot - next to medica
23. citra sehat - komplek ruko itc roxy mas
24. sedap malam discoteque lt.3 - hayam wuruk street
25. atlanta discoteque - mangga besar raya - komplek lokasari lt.5 blok c
no. 1-12
26. hot pant discoteque - daan mogot - next to medica
27. tiara ceria - lokasari plaza mangga besar
28. lido (healthy care) - citraland mall
29. paripurna massage - next to gajah mada plaza
30. joker (jakarta 2000) "super room" - daan mogot - back of medica
31. bintang mawar - mangga besar - next to hotel olympic (13.00-18.00)
32. stadium - next to hayam wuruk plaza
33. hotel travel - mangga besar viii - next to kimochi
34. ruko taman surya 17a - jakarta pusat
35. mawar - duta merlin
36. mgm golden truly - harmoni street
37. puspita - blora street jakarta utara
38. panti pijat sari ayu - pangeran jayakarta - komplek ruko kota indah
blok b 45/39b
39. whirpool hotel - next to horizon ancol hotel
40. inti raga - next to sunter mall jakarta timur
41. sentral hotel - pramuka street
42. panti pijat yusiana - ss klender street - next to jogja plaza
43. tirta sentosa halim - panti pijat mawar - parung
44. tangerang - veteran street - to pasar anyar from modernland
45. klender - pondok kopi street - next to buaran (19.00-21.00)
46. bintaro plaza (16.00-02.00) - bundaran sektor 9 bintaro
47. blok m kebayoran baru - mahakam street - back of blok m plaza
48. bundaran hi jakarta - teluk betung street (friday night)
49. kota - mangga besar raya street (19.00-04.00)
50. daan mogot jakarta (19.00)
51. grogol inn
52. pondok citra grogol (water bet)
53. hotel daan jaya

bispak :

1.ade_suci_sukmawati@yahoo.com telp ktr: 021-3441238
pekerjaan : marketing sebuah perusahaan swasta yg bertempat
di sekitar pecenongan
alamat : di seputaran jatibening - caman bekasi (ingin ditemani dengan seorang cewek yg service nya ok punya dengan tarif yg dapat dinegosiasi, karena itu no telp ktr harap bicara dgn sopan.
ybs. lagi butuh tuh..)
2.lisa : 0122705823
3.azreen : 0126159406
4.rmacleod2000@yahoo.com - lesbi
5. lita : 0813 11 0223 50 (ini musti speak2x dulu )
6. vera : 0815 8295 6166 ( ini bisa lo ajak langsung ngentot) rumah : 021 7011 7289
7. hello mas-mas,ï¿½
kalau tertarik sama silvi, boleh aja, silvi biasa janjian dan ketemuan
grand melia, atau di hyatt dan kadang kadang di mandarin oriental,
kalau mas tertarik, kasih handphone mas ke silvi, biar silvi yang hubungi
mas, maklum mas sekarang banyak orang iseng, jadi capek ngelayain telpon
iseng, jadi lebih baik silvi yang telpon balik. buat informasi, umur silvi
27 tahun, tinggi 175, berat 57, kulit : putih saatï¿½ ini kerja di salah satu
rumah mode. soal harga untuk short hours biasanya silvi di bayar 1.5 juta,
dan untuk semalam penuh biasanya di bayar 2-3 juta mas. tergantung lah
kondisi entar ketemu.
kalau benar benar tertarik silvi bisa kasih foto ke mas, dijamin memuaskan.
dan diijamin mas-mas gak akan kecewa.

8. clubbing, having fun, eh... gw agak maniak sama french kiss lho :)
yg mau kenalan langsung aja sms ke no. telp ke 0818679392 atau telp langsung ke 021-8004023 (pkl. 19.00-23.00) smart, cute, dan suka juga having sex, eh sorry.... having fun deh :) :) heheheheee.... hmmm.... telp vida 021-8004023 dan 0818679392

9. meliana namanya, dia kost di belakang citraland dan kuliah di untar,
0818967100 no hp nya. anaknya asik kok, kalo mau enak cuma kawan jangan pelit2 banget. paling dia cuma minta pulsa kok.

10. di mahakam rate-nya antara 200-300 buat shorttime. kalo cuma buat jalan2 cari tempat sepi trus bj biasanya minta 150an. kalo udah sering/kenal bisa nego lbh murah. hati2, byk bencong2 geladak yg tiba2 nongol jadi germonya --bisa2 ente2 dicharge lbh mahal 50! yg bagus2 biasanya di seberang mcstop, ada yg mirip nafa urbach. di seberang bulungan juga ada yg mirip inneke, namanya olin.

11. kawans, perlu stripper??? silahkan hunting dikaraoke bengkel
bej, dikaraoke rem sekitar/diluar ancol, dikaraoke hotel maharadja jalan tendean, dikaraoke di gedung menara thamrin, acara striptis masih terus ada setiap malam dikaraoke monggomas hayamwuruk.

12. saya mahasiswi di universitas pakuan bogor fakultas hukum.to the point
aja saya suka sex just for fun (klo cocok)tp klo ada yg mo ngasih imbalan jg
gpp.hehe.... yg tertarik sama saya call/sms ke 08561851633/08128813390 ato klo mo call ke rumah 0251-663660 [ mencari ] yang ga malu2 dan berani to the point...klo saya suka kamu ,saya jamin kamu pasti puas.....

13.ini ada info baru.. namanya shavira. panggilannya tante vira.. bs dihub
di 081584035535

14.ke daerah pangeran jayakarta aja. di daerah sekitaran puri handayani spa. kalo u masuk sana, pasti nanti ada orang yang nawarin loe segala macem perempuan. nah tinggal ikutan survey, tentuin pilihan. lanjuttttt.....
170 - 200 k per jam.

15.look at me :
http://www.geocities.com/vivien_novaria/vivien

16. boleh percaya boleh kagak ... lu yang padhe doyan ngentot .. nih ada
cewek gatel namanya liong tjin tjin 0856-9052579 mau dientot secara
gratis !!! kagak percaya ??? terserah lu ... mau daging china medan atau kagak !!!

17.ada cewe cakep nech bispak namanya mia cantik umurnya dah 30-an merrid tapi gak puas ama suamianya coba aja mail ke sini mia_sabrina@yahoo.com, nih hp tjin tjin nya 08569052579 all you can
eat !!! free of charge ... man .. nafsunya gedhe banget ....

Possessed Seoul

06-07-05, 17:46

http://www.seasite.niu.edu/Indonesian/TataBahasa/dictionary/

KL Guy

06-07-05, 18:58

Hi Jose,

This is the translation:

(WARNING: Jangan Percaya dengan NO.HP/Telp-nya, lewatin saja) means

(WARNING: Do not believe in the Hand Phone/ Telephone number provided, better to just visit)

Have a great time in Jakarta

Bulai69

06-07-05, 21:23

Bloody hell ! How long are you staying! I think even those of us who have spent a long time in JKT won't have tried all these places! I think what you will find when you arrive, is that you will find enough girls without having to consult your list - especially if you follow up the contacts you will have. If you want to try MP's you would do well to buy a map with a street index as many of the places listed are well out of the central area. In case you don't understand the language, unsuprisingly, it's all bullshit, claiming, for example that the girls are students, models etc etc.

There is one place I noticed which I was trying to recall a while ago when someone was asking about Citraland mall and places around that area: Medika Lt.2 - Daan Mogot I/31 - Back of Citraland Mall. Medika is a dark, loud disco which (on the one occassion I went) had more excellent girls in one place than I've ever seen before or since. There were very few men and no bules. I was literally mobbed by maybe 20 or 30 of them. But whenever I got friendly with any one of them, the others started to abuse her. A bit scary. I left without one.

Jaimito Cartero

06-07-05, 22:27

Well it looks like you have enough girls for the first day, but what will you do for the rest of your time? :)

Ekspat

06-08-05, 09:17

But after meeting up with her I am defiantly going back to Jakarta to continue my adventures together with my buddies!

Last but not least I wish to thank 2 senior members who had willingly shared their valuable contact & made this trip 1 of the best trip I ever had!Hi mates!

KLGuy, seems you had a pretty good time in JKT, but it isn't too difficult there. Since my first visit I'm addicted to that place.

Visited JKT last weekend and after check-in I went to TC first and had a beer and a 21y/o girl called Reni, but service wasn't anything to shout about. Straight forward, BBBJ and FJ. Very firm body, B-cup, all together not too bad.
Evening met some friends and we had too much drinks, so nothing to report.

Afternoon session in a quite rough area of JKT.

Next day into Bats and 30, picked a gal outta Bats.

Saw her, wow, nice boobs, as melon-lover I needed her immediately and back to room. Discharged 3 times that night, the boobs turned out to be 80C, paid 400k and no complaint.

Will be back in July.

(Since it's my first post, I'm 40, bule, single, stay 5 yrs in M'sia. Let's have a cold one.)

Cheers!

Brandon88

06-08-05, 10:00

I was thinking of an interesting challenge...

The girls working in the executive lounge as concierges of the hotel I frequent are some of the most attractive I've seen in Jakarta, which no doubt is one of the job requirements. I wonder if they'd be at all accessible. I've no doubt that they wouldn't 'sh*t where they ate' so to speak, but possibly they'd be willing to go out somewhere. I dare not ask, because if any offense is taken, I'd have to see them again in future stays.

I once commented on the striking eyes of one girl who wears blue contact lenses, and she seemed visibly embarrased that I mentioned it.

On another topic, I was invited to see the home of one BATS girl since I was dropping her off on the way to see my client in a nearby office building. I felt very out of place walking through the communal washroom, down a narrow hall lined with locked doors, and into her rented room, which was around 6 feet x 10 feet in size and as hot as an oven. I understand the allure of hanging out almost every night in BATS, CJ's,and the like... aside from the income, there is air con, music, drinks. Sure beats sweating it out in a tiny box all the time.
I've become friends with a number of these girls over the years, and it saddens me how little future they have.

Menteng

06-08-05, 11:52

Gzono

06-08-05, 12:00

[On another topic, I was invited to see the home of one BATS girl since I was dropping her off on the way to see my client in a nearby office building. I felt very out of place walking through the communal washroom, down a narrow hall lined with locked doors, and into her rented room, which was around 6 feet x 10 feet in size and as hot as an oven. I understand the allure of hanging out almost every night in BATS, CJ's,and the like... aside from the income, there is air con, music, drinks. Sure beats sweating it out in a tiny box all the time.

I've become friends with a number of these girls over the years, and it saddens me how little future they have.[/QUOTE]Agreed B88 I stayed at a Kos one night with a girl and it was sad the next day (i guess we all revert to human post coming) to see the girls sit around smoking answering sms from guys from all over the world and laughing and crying when they got a reply-prob some fat ugly bule with 3 kids and wife sms a 19 year old girl with nowhere else to go

Could be me too.

I always think abt this when I pull the money out and throw some mor ein for my poor relations of mother earth

Bulai69

06-08-05, 12:30

You make an interesting point about girls in hotels. I've asked a few girls at my usual hotel to "go shopping" with me on their day off - making it fairly clear that I would be inclined to spend money on them but with no (explicit) pay-back requirement. Only on one occassion did I get a "yes" then she chickened out on the day.

They all claim that they will be sacked if they go out with guests. I've had this fact confirmed by friendly (male) staff members whom I know well and also by an ex-employee girl who I did score with after she'd left. As always of course, the "sacking" could probably be avoided by appropriate payment to whoever is doing the sacking - but maybe not if its a European manager, as is the case at my hotel.

Given the above, I've never put too much pressure on.

Maybe the best option is to go for girls at a hotel other than the one you are a guest at. I know at least one regular contributor who has had a result on this basis.

JonTom

06-08-05, 14:12

Hi Brandon:

I have dated a girl that I met in an executive lounge while a guest at a 5 star hotel. We hit it off and she gave me her mobile number. She was not offended at all when I explored the possibility of her going out with me.

On my next trip to Jakarta I simply stayed at a different hotel so it was no problem for her to go out with me or spend the night. She did tell me that she could have gone out with me even if I stayed at the hotel she worked in - it would just have to be away from the hotel and naturally she couldn't spend the night.

I think I may know the girl with the striking blue eyes - I don't want to mention it in an open forum - does her name start with "N"?

JT

Mighty Spearsman

06-08-05, 18:26

Dear Brandon88:

Bulai69 is right, and not just about Indonesia. I've travelled in developing countries all over the world, and rarely will a young female employee of a hotel socialize with a guest of that same hotel, no matter how interested she might be. The risk is simply too great of losing their job, and subsequently never being able to find a similar job at another hotel, as she'll never get a decent reference from the hotel that had fired her.

There's also the risk that the young lady is a thief, and by befriending her, that you expose yourself to being robbed. Think about it, if you show up in your room unannounced and find a strange girl in the room who is not housekeeping, you'd call security, whereas if the girl is your new sweetheart, she could claim to be waiting in your room to give you a welcome-home BJ, thus covering up the fact that she was robbing you.

Once in West Africa, I hit it off with a young lady at the hotel I was staying. She knew that I was returning to that city in another two months, and she suggested that I stay at a different hotel, so that we could socialize outside. Which I did, and was amply rewarded :)

P.S. While JonTom's girl (see post immediately below) did say that it would have been ok to stay at the hotel where she worked, IMHO JonTom did the smart thing by staying elsewhere.

John Aldrich

06-08-05, 18:43

Yes thats a very interesting area which one could explore. But it takes some time. I"ve been able to score at 2 girls till date. But before that I've become a regular to place and everytime the place gets crowded and as the nmusic is full blast, I do tell them to take a drink. It took 3 or 4 times before I got their numbers and then one night picked up one opf them outside but in the near vicinity to go to a disco. Drove to Tiga Kuda in Menteng 2 and got a couple of drinks. The ambience in tiga kuda is seedy enough for any girl to figure out the mischief we are into and she gave in. Then through her was able to get the second girl. But then that took sometime. Yes its time consuming and also an expensive process.What I can crack in 300K to 500K for a full night I would waste 4 to 5 nights and also blow up quite a bit on my own drinks, her drinks and then finally get her. While I pay her the taxi money, I get an sms while I am in singapore and I tell her I am in singapore. Pat comes a list of things she wants.

But then its exciting enough too. Remember the girls whom I picked up were tourism graduates and were trainees getting just about 1 million per month in the multinational chain of hotels which prides itself to be one of the best hotel chains in the world.

Anything is possible in Jakarta.

Brandon88

06-09-05, 00:14

Thanks for the input gents.

JonTom, interesting...would that be at the Intercon?

JonTom

06-09-05, 00:58

Hi Brandon,

It was the Intercon.

KL Guy

06-09-05, 11:27

Thanks for the correction info. I had thought that lewatin means to visit coz in the Malay language to visit is lawat.

Thanks for the info Menteng!

In this case "lewatin saja" means: just pass! In other words forget it!

Jakboy

06-10-05, 13:42

Okay,

I have a question and seek advice - having explored and enjoyed the town in the last couple of weeks

My favourite MO is to go to one of the glodok disco's in the afternoon and soak in the atmosphere for a while before picking up a girl for some early evening R&R.

what someone told me was the the glodok clubs (Stadium, Sydney, TC etc) are often raided by cops and as a foreigner i would be an easy mark - to get drugs planted on me in a search etc etc and it was extremely dangerous to be going to these clubs - even though i was in pursuit of nookie and not eckie.

is that true? should I be worried? which are the places to avoid? has any one been around in a raid...? any information will be helpful.

XXL

06-11-05, 12:01

jakboy,

i used to do all-night binges in stadium but i have now stopped. it's not only because of the raids. such raids are taking place. i was once in a room with a girl in stadium when they called us from downstairs asking us to turn down the music until the cops had gone. i don't think the biggest danger is being caught while in the disco. after all, if you're a good client, i.e. a prodigal one, the disco will probably see to it that you come to no harm so that you can go on spending. ever though they get raided, discos have some clout with the raiders.

the problem is after you leave. stadium now closes early instead of opening non-stop from friday night to monday morning, so you eventually have to leave in the middle of the night and run the gauntlet of "patrolis" in the streets. the cops know this, they're waiting for you outside. in fact, there's probably a gentlemen's agreement with the discos: we don't raid you, we stretch our nets outside, and we catch the fish when you flush it out. the discos are happy with this because clients tend to linger as long as possible waiting for the effect of the dope to wane and that's good for business.

i've heard the cops nowadays never raid mille's disco. that's plausible, but when milles's closes you have to get and into the cops blocking the main streets leading out of your safe haven. not to mention the prestasi cabs waiting outside who are working together with the cops.

of course, most of the time the cops will be happy with a few banknotes. but i've heard about [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) tests and cops placing a girl under arrest because she had wide eyes etc. why are there so few bules in stadium nowadays? maybe because of the risk.

i was told that whenever you bump into only two or three cops, it's just a scam for bribes, not an official roadblock. if and when you see a bigger operation with policewomen as well and vans parked on the sides, it's more serious. the vans are for taking people in and doing blood or [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) tests.

eventually, the crackdown on drugs may kill most lf jkt's nightlife as it has killed the nightlife in many other destinations. most mongers don't realize this, but any crackdown on drugs is bad news for p4p. or do they think that the discos, bars and brothels would still be full of horny girls waiting for us to fuck them if there were no dope around? no way.

xxl